[12:09] <draik> Nerevar, once you get this issue resolved and get it up and running.. you can add it to your resume! BA in CS and Kubuntu System Analyst!
[12:09] <draik> tobias_, df -h
[12:10] <tobias_> thanx!
[12:10] <draik> np
[12:11] <draik> well, I'm off... Nerevar, good luck with your desktop... and I do suggest you get ahold of something to re-format that mandrake partition for the installation of Kubuntu
[12:13] <reddwolf> hello can some one help me get my wireless connection working
[12:14] <lupine_85> which chipset?
[12:14] <RawSewage> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.minix/browse_thread/thread/76536d1fb451ac60/b813d52cbc5a044b?lnk=gst&q=&rnum=32#b813d52cbc5a044b
[12:15] <RawSewage> THE FAMOUS POST THAT STARTED IT ALL:  15 years ago    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.minix/browse_thread/thread/76536d1fb451ac60/b813d52cbc5a044b?lnk=gst&q=&rnum=32#b813d52cbc5a044b
[12:16] <lupine_85> nostalgia++;
[12:16] <RawSewage> yeah
[12:17] <slow-motion> n8
[12:18] <Zamboulie> yo sup FOOS
[12:19] <reddwolf> hello can some one help me get my wireless connection working
[12:20] <felix___> Hallo leute
[12:21] <felix___> i've got a stupid question
[12:21] <felix___> im new to linux and happy i made my WPA-PSK secured network to run
[12:21] <lupine_85> har! www.minix3.org
[12:22] <felix___> but now, i want to compile xmoto
[12:22] <srdjant_slack> xmoto is awesome
[12:22] <felix___> yes
[12:22] <felix___> do u know how to install under linux?
[12:22] <srdjant_slack> i just compiled it
[12:22] <RawSewage> lupine_85, what
[12:22] <lupine_85> minix 3 :)
[12:23] <RawSewage> Ive never used Minix
[12:23] <swamptoo> i am tryin got install kubuntu....i loaded the cd but the display is like 640x480...whjat file to i edit to add 1024x768 ?
[12:23] <lupine_85> felix___: it's in the repos
[12:23] <lupine_85> !xmoto
[12:23] <ubotu> xmoto: 2D motocross platform game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.10-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 346 kB, installed size 884 kB
[12:23] <RawSewage> you want to edit the live cd?
[12:23] <swamptoo> no i want my display to be 1024x768
[12:23] <RawSewage> did you install it
[12:23] <swamptoo> not yet the screen is very small
[12:24] <lupine_85> ctrl+alt+KP+ maybe?
[12:24] <felix___> hen I want to make "make" in the directory, it says "no targets told, and no target control-file found. End"
[12:24] <RawSewage> install it, then change it
[12:24] <lupine_85> assuming the livecd supports your graphics card at that resolution (should do)
[12:24] <swamptoo> not sure if i can....i cant chnage the options cause they are off teh screen
[12:24] <felix___> Ive got real dapper dake
[12:24] <felix___> no live cd but
[12:24] <felix___> but
[12:24] <felix___> hen I want to make "make" in the directory, it says "no targets told, and no target control-file found. End"
[12:24] <RawSewage> felix___, dont use make
[12:24] <__mikem> felix what do you mean "real" dapper drake
[12:24] <lupine_85> just "sudo apt-get install xmoto"
[12:25] <lupine_85> or install in adept
[12:25] <felix___> i installed it an an extra partieion
[12:25] <felix___> no
[12:25] <lupine_85> much saner
[12:25] <felix___> i need to compile first ;)
[12:25] <RawSewage> theres a better way than make
[12:25] <lupine_85> no. You don't
[12:25] <felix___> o course? how not?
[12:25] <lupine_85> because it's in the repositories
[12:25] <lupine_85> !xmoto > felix___
[12:26] <felix___> hm
[12:26] <felix___> is it?
[12:26] <felix___> no
[12:27] <felix___> how can i compile via make
[12:27] <__mikem> you have to have make installed first of all
[12:27] <__mikem> before doing anything try sudo apt-get build-essential
[12:28] <Kutan> That's odd... I just ran x-moto.. it loaded for about 20-25 seconds and then just disappeared =\
[12:28] <Kutan> So what's so great about this game anyway if you don't mind me asking? o_o;;
[12:28] <lupine_85> felix___ cat README or cat INSTALL if you're determined to roll your own
[12:28] <lupine_85> it's fun :)
[12:28] <lupine_85> 2D motocross
[12:29] <Kutan> ._. It's not running... that's strange.
[12:29] <octan> hi all
[12:29] <octan> anyone using kxdocker?
[12:29] <lupine_85> last time I played it, I was on SusE
[12:30] <octan> hmm
[12:30] <octan> how do i remove crap from the panerl? i tryed rightclick on it then remove now. but it comes back after a restart.
[12:31] <apallo27> lilo is giving me problems
[12:31] <octan> im trying to remove like battery senor. i dont need that stuff. this box != lappy
[12:31] <octan> apallo27, move to grub
[12:31] <octan> :)
[12:31] <apallo27> grub gave me even bigger problems
[12:32] <octan> no it shouldent,, you just needto set it up properly
[12:32] <srdjant_slack> lilo is the greatest
[12:32] <octan> grub is more powerfull bootloader then lilo..
[12:32] <octan> 'lilo suxz compared..
[12:32] <srdjant_slack> nope
[12:32] <apallo27> kubuntu set it up for me (this is a fresh install)
[12:33] <apallo27> and came back with "can't find operating system" or something like that
[12:33] <srdjant_slack> octan, maybe you need to let kde save settings. try removing, then do a logout, then login.
[12:33] <apallo27> i'm dualbooting xp + kubuntu
[12:33] <octan> srdjant_slack, yes it does. you cant do shit if something get screwed up and you got lilo..
[12:34] <octan> apallo27, so do i
[12:34] <srdjant_slack> octan, yes you can. just boot it and you can type in your rescue stuff...
[12:34] <lupine_85> syslinuz r0x0rz
[12:34] <lupine_85> ;)
[12:34] <lupine_85> syslinux, rather
[12:34] <apallo27> hmmm
[12:35] <apallo27> how do i config grub now that lilo's already installed?
[12:35] <srdjant_slack> at least my bootloader is not a pile of vegtables and steak ;p
[12:36] <lupine_85> just install grub, edit the menu.lst file, and run grub-install
[12:36] <lupine_85> make sure you've got a failsafe though
[12:36] <srdjant_slack> what is a failsafe?
[12:37] <lupine_85> a plan in case it goes small-bit-that-eats-grubs-up
[12:37] <lupine_85> s/bit/bird
[12:37] <lupine_85> e.g. a live CD on standby
[12:37] <apallo27> grub's already installed...
[12:38] <lupine_85> then skip step 1
[12:38] <srdjant_slack> why not just use a live cd if you need to?
[12:38] <lupine_85> 'failsafe' is a superset of 'live cd'
[12:38] <SonicChao> This channel should be +t...
[12:38] <octan> srdjant_slack, GRUB has a more powerful, interactive command line interface. LILO, on the other hand, only allows one command with arguments. thats just 1 thing..
[12:38] <apallo27> grub-install didn't work...
[12:38] <lupine_85> would also include a bootloader on a floppy disc that loads up the 'real' linux, on your hd, for instance
[12:38] <srdjant_slack> but grub can't do raid stuff i heard and is crap name
[12:39] <lupine_85> did you do step 2?
[12:39] <octan> apallo27 check and see if there is a /boot/grub/menu,1st file?
[12:39] <lupine_85> (edit /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[12:39] <tobias__> wow
[12:39] <octan> hi
[12:39] <tobias__> sorry
[12:39] <lupine_85> hmm
[12:39] <lupine_85> not good ;)
[12:40] <apallo27> no such file or folder...
[12:40] <reddwolf> can someone help me set up my wireless internet ( i'm currently running on a regular line) but would like to have it setup for wireless
[12:40] <lupine_85> then you'll need to create one. Google for menu.lst to get a template
[12:40] <srdjant_slack> lupine_85, did you have the topic saved in a text file or something?
[12:40] <lupine_85> logfiles
[12:40] <srdjant_slack> ahh :)
[12:41] <lupine_85> (not really, I'm a fast typer and have a photographic memory ;) )
[12:41] <tobias__> the topic is there when we join
[12:41] <tobias__> copy paste
[12:41] <tobias__> :)
[12:41] <srdjant_slack> yes but it's gone off my scrollback, and i think lupine_85's been here longer than i have
[12:42] <lupine_85> Joined at 22:56
[12:42] <reddwolf> can someone help me set up my wireless internet ( i'm currently running on a regular line) but would like to have it setup for wireless. could someone help me please
[12:42] <lupine_85> accidentally hit the power button at ~22:40
[12:42] <lupine_85> what chipset?
[12:42] <reddwolf> what do you mean
[12:43] <reddwolf> belkin 54 g wireless card
[12:43] <lupine_85> as in, what wireless card is it?
[12:43] <Hawkwind> !wireless
[12:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:43] <lupine_85> USB? PCI?
[12:43] <Hawkwind> Follow that guide there
[12:43] <reddwolf> pci
[12:43] <lupine_85> output of lspci |grep Ethernet ?
[12:44] <reddwolf> not sure what you mean
[12:44] <lupine_85> run the command "lspci | grep Ethernet"
[12:45] <lupine_85> pastebin (see the topic) the output and post the link
[12:46] <lupine_85>  srdjant_slack: try CTRL+0 (if using Konversation ;) )
[12:46] <reddwolf> do you have the link for pastebin
[12:46] <srdjant_slack> lupine_85, what??
[12:46] <lupine_85> in the topic...
[12:47] <lupine_85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:47] <lupine_85> logfiles if in konq.
[12:47] <lupine_85> (crosslink: scrollback)
[12:48] <srdjant> lupine_85: ctrl-0 and ctrl-o do nothing. what are they supposed to do?
[12:48] <srdjant_slack> i already have it to maximum, a small and carppy 1000 lines
[12:48] <lupine_85> Supposed to load up your logfile for the current channel
[12:48] <lupine_85> where you can go back as many KB as you require
[12:48] <srdjant> oh ok, it made tabs that I didn't initially see
[12:49] <lupine_85> :p
[12:49] <tom_> moin
[12:49] <fluke777> hi i have just upgraded form breezy to dapper and have som issues with  switching keyboard layouts could anybody give me a hand with this?
[12:49] <srdjant> thanks for that tip, lupine_85 :)
[12:49] <lupine_85> wow, 1MB only takes me back 25 hours
[12:49] <lupine_85> np
[12:49] <srdjant_slack> lol
[12:49] <reddwolf> i'm not getting anything but my regular lan connection
[12:50] <lupine_85> how about just lspci ?
[12:50] <reddwolf> and thats ( rev 90)
[12:50] <lupine_85> (might not be showing as an Ethernet device, if it's nominally unsupported)
[12:50] <srdjant_slack> reddwolf, we need the whole line
[12:50] <lupine_85> so just pastebin the output of lspci
[12:51] <lupine_85> rev. 90 is in reference to his wired lan
[12:51] <swamptoo> i installed kubuntu but the display is like 640x480 and i cant change it, any ideas?
[12:51] <felix___> HEEEEELP
[12:52] <lupine_85> not xmoto still?
[12:52] <felix___> Can u Tell me why I cant install LIBJPEG ?
[12:52] <reddwolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21732
[12:52] <lupine_85> swamptoo: what video driver are you using? (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[12:52] <srdjant_slack> libjped should be installed
[12:52] <felix___> -/configure returns error because it needs libjpeg
[12:52] <srdjant_slack> install the -dev package
[12:52] <lupine_85> if compiling, he'll need libjpeg-dev
[12:52] <lupine_85> (or whatever it's called)
[12:52] <srdjant_slack> felix___, xmoto?
[12:52] <felix___> libjpg-dex i need
[12:52] <felix___> yes
[12:52] <lupine_85> 0000:00:09.0 Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 0301
[12:53] <srdjant_slack> felix___, the configure script for xmoto is broken
[12:53] <felix___> How can i install -dev?
[12:53] <srdjant_slack> i had to edit it to fix some issues
[12:53] <reddwolf> i have a linsys wireless pci card
[12:53] <felix___> hm
[12:53] <swamptoo> lupine_85: i810
[12:53] <reddwolf> *linksys
[12:53] <felix___> but i still need LibJPEG -dev ?
[12:53] <srdjant> felix___: perhaps
[12:53] <srdjant> probably
[12:54] <lupine_85> OK, you need to look at the following site - http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[12:54] <felix___> do u know how can i install it?
[12:54] <felix___> i downloaded libjpeg-6b.tar.gz
[12:54] <srdjant> ralink card. asus built those afaik.
[12:54] <lupine_85> swamptoo: try changing it to 'vesa'
[12:54] <felix___> And made ./configure
[12:54] <lupine_85> could be any one of 5 chipsets
[12:54] <felix___> no errors
[12:54] <felix___> then i made make for this jpeg
[12:54] <felix___> no errors
[12:55] <felix___> and then i want to make "make-install" and it returns errors
[12:55] <lupine_85> swamptoo: then run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; answer the questions (Defaults usually are safe); then restart the x-server: ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:55] <felix___> HELP?
[12:55] <srdjant_slack> make install
[12:55] <lupine_85> reddwolf: 4 of them have linux drivers, one you'll need to use ndiswrapper for
[12:56] <felix___> yes
[12:56] <felix___> I tried
[12:56] <Kutan> Can someone tell me what I can do on linux that I can't on other OS'? >_> I've been sittin here staring at my monitor for the past 30 minutes
[12:56] <lupine_85> felix___: did ou sudo it?
[12:56] <srdjant_slack> what's the error?
[12:56] <lupine_85> Kutan: other *nix will do everything linux does
[12:56] <lupine_85> for fun, install 'teatime'
[12:56] <Kutan> ...teatime?
[12:56] <reddwolf> ok were do i get that wrapper
[12:56] <lupine_85> or apt-cache search <keyword-relating-to-a-hobby>
[12:56] <lupine_85> reddwolf: read what I said again
[12:56] <swamptoo> lupine_85:  i get 'permission denied' when i try to save agter changing to "vesa"
[12:57] <felix___> "  /usr/bin/install: regular file /usr/local/man/man1/cjpeg.1 cant be created: No such file or directory "
[12:57] <reddwolf> or ndiswrapper
[12:57] <lupine_85> swamptoo: you need to edit it as root
[12:57] <lupine_85> e.g. "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (in a terminal)
[12:57] <lupine_85> or use the "Run Command" menu option
 "  /usr/bin/install: regular file /usr/local/man/man1/cjpeg.1 cant be created: No such file or directory "
[12:58] <lupine_85> reddwolf: you need to find out the exact make, model and version of your card
[12:58] <reddwolf> ok
[12:58] <lupine_85> then you need to compare it against this list:- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[12:58] <srdjant_slack> felix___, in xmoto source dir, cd bin, ../xmoto
[12:58] <Kutan> Teatime: "Gnome Panel applet to reminds you when your tea is ready" .... huh
[12:59] <lupine_85> does herbal and earl grey ;)
[12:59] <felix___>  <srdjant_slack> what?
[12:59] <lupine_85> seriously, though. Think of a task.
[12:59] <lupine_85> You'll find a program in the repos that addresses the problem
[12:59] <srdjant_slack> felix___, what's your current directory?
[12:59] <lupine_85> much faster (and cheaper!) than windows + google + credit card
[12:59] <felix___>  <srdjant_slack> for waht?
[01:00] <reddwolf> true
[01:00] <felix___>  <srdjant_slack> i think i need to make jpeg-dev first
[01:00] <felix___>  <srdjant_slack> ihavnt got this one yet
[01:00] <srdjant_slack> but you said you made it already
[01:00] <lupine_85> erm, no. You don't
[01:00] <reddwolf> i have a driver software from when i bought the pci card would those work
[01:00] <felix___>  <srdjant_slack> no it makes problems
[01:00] <lupine_85> libjpeg-dev is *not* for building
[01:00] <lupine_85> reddwolf: maybe under ndiswrapper or linuxant
[01:00] <reddwolf> oh
[01:00] <srdjant_slack> you don't need to install xmoto. you can play it from the build directory
[01:00] <felix___>  <srdjant_slack><lupine_85>  So how the hell can i get it?
[01:01] <lupine_85> without knowing the hardware, it's impossible to say
[01:01] <lupine_85> libjpeg is already installed
[01:01] <lupine_85> !libjpeg-dev
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libjpeg-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <lupine_85> !libjpeg
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libjpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <lupine_85> !libjpeg-mmx-dev
[01:01] <ubotu> libjpeg-mmx-dev: Development files for the IJG JPEG library with mmx optimization. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.5-2 (dapper), package size 109 kB, installed size 348 kB (Only available for i386)
  "!" <- ?
[01:01] <srdjant_slack> lupine_85, it's just a apt-get thing, yes?
[01:02] <reddwolf> were can i find the ndiswrapper
 where can i geti it?
[01:02] <srdjant> reddwolf: just google
[01:02] <lupine_85> ndiswrapper is in the repos
[01:02] <lupine_85> as ndiswrapper-utils
[01:02] <lupine_85> but if you can, you should go with a native driver
 where can i get it?
[01:02] <lupine_85> you've got an 80% chance of being supported
[01:02] <swamptoo> lupine_85:  that dint work, i changed everything and restarted xserver, same thing
[01:02] <lupine_85> all it takes is a bit of digging
[01:03] <srdjant> felix___: apt-get install libjpeg-mmx-dev
[01:03] <lupine_85> swamptoo: ok what happens when you hit ctrl+alt+KP_+
[01:03] <lupine_85> or ctrl+alt+KP_-
[01:03] <lupine_85> (KP=keypad)
[01:03] <lupine_85> srdjant: if it's built already, then libjpeg almost certainly isn't the problem
[01:03] <lupine_85> ....unless the person writing the Makefile was an idiot
[01:04] <swamptoo> lupine_85:  im on a laptop
[01:04] <felix____>  <lupine_85> May I please u for an clear answer? What about libjpeg-dev now?
[01:04] <swamptoo> lupine_85:  im on inspiron 1100 laptop
[01:05] <glj12> mmm
[01:05] <srdjant_slack> lupine_85, well felix___ isn't being all that clear about it - not sure if he managed to build xmoto. I do know that the configure script is bad for xmoto, I had to hack it to setup correct -l options for gcc. I think felix___ has problems installing, ut you can run xmoto in the build directory.
[01:05] <lupine_85> sorry, been called to bed :(. felix___: just use the bleeding repos. swamptoo: make sure you've got the right modes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf .  reddwolf: google
 in the bin there are about 4 files or so
 i dont think thats all I need ;)
[01:06] <srdjant_slack> Makefile  Makefile.am  Makefile.in  anims.dat  editor.dat  fonts.dat  music.raw  sprites.dat  xmoto.bin
[01:07] <felix____> editor.dat fonts.dat makefile.am makefile.in xmoto.bin xmoto.ogg
[01:07] <felix____> ?
[01:07] <srdjant_slack> ok so in the bin dir, do:   ../xmoto
[01:09] <felix____> felix@ubuntu:~/Downloads/Xmoto-Src/xmoto-0.2.0/bin$ ../xmoto
[01:09] <larson9999> so i figured i'd take the time to finally check out one of my tv capture cards.  both are ati.  i want to record videos to my hd.  apparently xawtv doesn't work with the fglrx driver.  is there an option that does work with the flgrx driver?
[01:09] <felix____> felix@ubuntu:~/Downloads/Xmoto-Src/xmoto-0.2.0/bin$ ../xmoto
[01:09] <felix____> nothing happened
 felix@ubuntu:~/Downloads/Xmoto-Src/xmoto-0.2.0/bin$ ../xmoto
 nothin happens
[01:10] <srdjant_slack> no idea then. i have older version
[01:10] <felix____> ah ok....
[01:10] <srdjant_slack> [srdjant@thor ~/Downloads/xmoto-0.1.16/bin] $
[01:12] <srdjant_slack> the irony is that there is a verion in the repository
[01:12] <srdjant_slack> although older than my version
[01:15] <plugs> hi, i have a problem. i can't do two sound things at the same time. i mean, i can't for instance talk on skype and listen to music at the same time. can i fix this?
[01:15] <srdjant_slack> maybe use alsa
[01:16] <talljon84> I am attempting to get hibernation to work from the hotkey on my keyboard. I determined it's keycode and was going to use lineak to trigger the hibernation script. What command do I need to have it launch to begin the hibernation process?
[01:17] <srdjant_slack> madman rocks
[01:17] <madman-> @*@
[01:18] <srdjant_slack> madman as the music software :P   http://madman.sf.net
[01:19] <glj12> anyone here good with sound problems...
[01:19] <madman-> need some help. i'm trying to get yahoo mail to kmail. My full time user ID is motorcitymadman but i shorten for the user list
[01:20] <madman-> sarjant_slack: looking over the madman site now
[01:20] <talljon84> Is anyone aware of whether the fglrx drivers now behave with suspend to disk|ram functionality?
[01:22] <madman-> need some help. i'm trying to get yahoo mail to kmail. any ideas ?
[01:23] <madman-> i just started using kubuntu. Liunx for that matter of fact
[01:24] <erov> dont use it so.. no but let me see
[01:28] <ccherrett> Hawkwind: hey man
[01:29] <fabian2de> hey guys.... anybody there, who can tell me, which application is called when I click on a cd-drive and select "Eject"? I use kubuntu 6.06 and I want to bind my cd-eject-key on my keyboard to this application
[01:29] <ccherrett> Hawkwind: I am trying to run irssi from SoS and irssi is not recognizing the /script command. Is there something special about your package?
[01:30] <turjan> hi
[01:31] <Sanne> fabian2de: there used to be an app "eject", I don't know though if it is this one that's used by the right click eject menu.
[01:32] <fabian2de> Sanne: yeah, I know, but for this app I need root-rights, and its a bit uncomfortable to type password for ejecting my cds ;)
[01:33] <Sanne> fabian2de: ah, ok, then you already know as much as me :)
[01:34] <ubuntu> hi
[01:34] <jon_> hi
[01:34] <ubuntu> where from jon
[01:34] <jon_> Cincinnati
[01:34] <louie_> hi everyone
[01:34] <ubuntu> hi
[01:34] <ubuntu> i am from scotland
[01:35] <jon_> cool
[01:35] <Sanne> ubuntu: ooohhh beautiful Scotland! :)
[01:35] <ubuntu> i think cincinnati
[01:35] <nixternal> alrighty, who can fix my dvd problems
[01:35] <ubuntu> is cool
[01:35] <louie_> i was in the ubuntu irc and the were no help.  i'm having a problem with gnome crashing and sending me to the login screen randomly, can anyone help please?
[01:36] <jon_> nix, what's wrong with your dvd
[01:36] <ubuntu> sorry new to unbuntu myself
[01:36] <nixternal> heh, if you get good gnome help here, you are lucky, considering 99% of the people here are KDE only fanatics ;)
[01:36] <nixternal> it won't mount
[01:36] <nixternal> heh
[01:36] <jbasilio> louie_: has it always done this?
[01:37] <louie_> jbasilio - no, it started just today, it just dumps me back to the login.  i've been using ubuntu/kubuntu since november and this is the first problem i couldnt fix off the forum
[01:37] <jbasilio> louie_: did you run an update recently?  or change anything?
[01:38] <Sanne> fabian2de: haha, I found something interesting. Look at this file, there's a command at the end, maybe that's what you need: /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_eject.desktop
[01:38] <louie_> i was using kde, but my resolution always sets to a super high level at bootup, and gnome keeps my settings...yea, i updated today.
[01:38] <kutan> Yay I finally need some more help.
[01:38] <jbasilio> louie_: i mean did you run an update and then bad stuff starting occurring?  usually something changed .. stuff doesn't break out of the blue
[01:39] <kutan> So uhm... How do I install Adobe Flash Player? For some reason it doesn't want to work in the konsole
[01:39] <louie_> jbasilio - yea, i auto updated today, it was some combiz stuff (not using it though, back to regular x)
[01:39] <fabian2de> Sanne: well, I tried your first tip.... I didn't know its possible to eject a unmounted cd without typing the password :) now it works! thanks alot!!
[01:40] <jbasilio> louie_: are you sure you're back to X?  do you see Xgl running at all?  did you back out everything you adjusted to start Xgl?
[01:40] <Sanne> fabian2de:  oh, cool it works. But still, this kio_media_mounthelper looks interesting also, in case you ever need it.
[01:40] <jbasilio> kutan: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[01:41] <louie_> jbasilio - no, that could be it. i set up xgl about a month ago, but it messes with my tv, so i only fire it up to impress the windows people
[01:41] <kutan> thanks :D
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> wow - messes up the tv! now thats a powerfull system!
[01:41] <louie_> lol, i mean tv card
[01:41] <jbasilio> louie_: i had forgotten a couple edits i made when i setup compiz.  issue "history" at xterm and look for anything you might have forgotten
[01:42] <jbasilio> i can't wait for compiz to be more stable with KDE .. right now it's super-impressive but also super-silly since it's so unstable
[01:42] <jbasilio> at least it was for me
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> same here
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> but im using the MatchBox window manager at the moment.. so eyecandy is useles. :)
[01:42] <jbasilio> freakin' cool as anything though.  i can't wait for kde4 + compiz stuff .. going to be a lot of tools in the toolbox for creative developers
[01:43] <kutan> ..... "E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree"
[01:43] <arepie> anyone could help with ati driver installation?? i got error
[01:44] <louie_> jbasilio - the only thing i did do that was suspicious.. i installed mail notification 3.0 from a deb package
[01:44] <jbasilio> louie_: try apt-get remove <package> .. see if it gets better
[01:45] <jbasilio> kutan: did you add the repository?
[01:46] <jbasilio> kutan: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:47] <kutan> thanks again
[01:47] <jbasilio> kutan:  you need to add a couple URLs to your /etc/apt/sources.list so that it knows about the other files
[01:49] <louie_> jbasilio - thank for all your help. i'll have to drop back into gnome now.. one more question, if it doesn't work, can i try to reinstall gnome?
[01:50] <jbasilio> louie_: maybe.  my guess is it isn't gnome though if you weren't having issues before.  i think it's something you added or didn't remove (i.e. compiz related)
[01:50] <louie_> cool, i'll dump combiz and all related settings, later bro
[01:52] <arepie> anyone, plese look at this error.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21738
[01:54] <jbasilio> arepie: what are you trying to do?
[01:55] <arepie> im trying to install ATI driver
[01:55] <jbasilio> i know for nvidia i added the following line to my "Device" section
[01:55] <jbasilio> Option          "NvAGP" "0"
[01:55] <jbasilio> otherwise i would freeze now and again since i run multiple X sessions
[01:56] <jbasilio> don't know if there is something similiar with ati
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> not with ATI, I dont know what's causing that error, apparently a userspace program tried something it shouldn't have with fglrx.
[01:57] <kutan> jbasilio: When you said I needed to add a couple URLs .... What URLs..?
[01:57] <jbasilio> kutan: my guess is
[01:57] <jbasilio> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free
[01:57] <jbasilio> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[01:58] <kutan> ...oh... thanks... >_>
[01:58] <arepie> arepie@Arepie:~$ fglrxinfo
[01:58] <arepie> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[01:58] <jbasilio> kutan: sure .. let me know if it doesn't work
[01:58] <arepie> what is that means?
[01:58] <KaiN> Hello everyone
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> I wish usb flash drives got mounted sync, people at the library not leaving their stuff in long enough after unmounting because it looks as though the writing is done as far as KDE shows.
[01:59] <KaiN> Does anyone know how to edit in super user mode in Kubuntu?
[01:59] <jbasilio> arepie: don't know.  are you trying to run Xgl?
[01:59] <arepie> nope..
[01:59] <jbasilio> KaiN: sudo <editor>  .. or sudo vi .. :)
[01:59] <kutan> ...It says I can't write to it
[01:59] <arepie> the instruction asked me to check the error that way
[01:59] <KaiN> ok will try it, thanks jbasilio
[02:00] <jbasilio> kutan: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <kutan> eheh...
[02:00] <kutan> I always forget the sudo thing
[02:00] <jbasilio> arepie: sorry .. i don't have ati. what instructions?
[02:00] <arepie> !ati
[02:00] <ubuntu> ?
[02:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:01] <arepie> that instruction
[02:01] <ubuntu> evenin'
[02:01] <jbasilio> kutan: yeah .. it's a pain sometimes but it's better that way in the long run
[02:01] <jbasilio> arepie: or look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29 and compare notes
[02:02] <cronen> .
[02:02] <arepie> jbasilio: hold on
[02:02] <cronen> any of  you guys using freenx?
[02:02] <kutan> Odd... Didn't seem to work.
[02:03] <jbasilio> arepie: looks like it ends up here   http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[02:03] <arepie> yup.. i've tried that too
[02:03] <arepie> both of them end up with the same error
[02:03] <kutan> It still says it couldn't find the package
[02:04] <jbasilio> i hope the driver situation works itself out .. right now that's 1 more thing that's a pain in the butt.  once compiz et al get fixed the only card that works """"easily""""" is nvidia
[02:04] <jbasilio> and even that can be a pain unless it's all setup by the distribution
[02:06] <kutan> also, when I do ./flashplayer-installer after downloading and extracting the folder from the adobe flash player website, it gives me this error
[02:07] <kutan> "
[02:07] <kutan> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[02:07] <kutan>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[02:07] <kutan> "
[02:08] <jbasilio> kutan: congrats!  you added the repository!  bummer that your architecture isn't supported.  i think you could use a 32 bit kernel and then be ok
[02:08] <kutan> Oh god... the words 32 bit kernel just made my head explode
[02:08] <kutan> ._.
[02:09] <Sanne> jbasilio, kutan: no need for a new kernel, you just need a 32 bit Firefox to run flash in
[02:09] <Sanne> kutan: let me find you some info on that, sec
[02:09] <kutan> ...oh thanks. o_O;
[02:11] <Sanne> kutan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[02:11] <swamptoo> Q: i plugged in my wireless card and started "wireless assistant" it sees my network but i cannot connect to it...any ideas?
[02:12] <kutan> thanks
[02:12] <swamptoo> I'm using DHCP to connect by the way
[02:13] <Sanne> kutan: you're welcome. If you get problems while following those, fell free to come back and ask for more help :)
[02:15] <Sanne> night all
[02:18] <kutan> "gksudo: command not found" Gotta love em
[02:19] <kutan> It says I need to use the command "gksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc" but it's not working ._.
[02:22] <kutan> -_- Screw firefox, I'm done with that for now. :(
[02:22] <talljon84> How would I confirm that powernowd is successfully modifying the cpufreq?
[02:23] <Nerevar> well, i found my mandrake cd1
[02:23] <Nerevar> funny how something created 3 years ago works and no linux distribution i can find will work for me now
[02:23] <Nerevar> anyways.. going to try to back stuff up..
[02:35] <zeronenorez> hey dudes,how tu install gaim theme? i use ATER.
[02:35] <malice_> anyone out there that can help a newbie with a wireless card for a laptop? My computer sees the card but I can not connect to it. even if I disable the ethernet and eneble the wireless in network settings
[02:36] <jbasilio> kutan: just use "sudo kate" in place of gksudo gedit
[02:36] <Healot> !wifi
[02:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:36] <turjan> hi,
[02:37] <kutan> Yeah I did that but the file I was supposed to edit was blank
[02:37] <kutan> =\
[02:37] <zeronenorez> there is the Giam themes files locate?
[02:37] <zeronenorez> where is the Giam themes files locate?
[02:38] <malice_> eth2      IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"hellomoto"
[02:38] <malice_>           Mode:Auto  Channel=1  Access Point: Invalid
[02:38] <malice_>           Sensitivity=0/200
[02:38] <malice_>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[02:38] <malice_>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[02:38] <malice_>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[02:39] <jbasilio> kutan: sorry, don't know how to help you since i don't have 64 bit stuff
[02:39] <jbasilio> kutan: pango seems a little weird to be editing though .. i forget what the app is but i don't recall it having anything to do with ffox
[02:40] <turjan> anyone using apt-build here? I'm trying to do so but crashes with a segfault. Running on a 6.06 on amd64 HW. Using dpkg-buildpackage works just right. After searching for similar behaviors on google the only way it seems the only solution left is perl -d.
[02:40] <apallo27> what's the best way to set up my dual monitor setup? I have 2 monitors, each attached to it's own video card
[02:41] <apallo27> and i want to span the desktop across both desktops
[02:45] <apallo27> what's the best way to set up my dual monitor setup? I have 2 monitors, each attached to it's own video card, and i want the desktop spanned across both monitors
[02:51] <Healot> the best? with Windows operating systems of course, atm
[02:52] <apallo27> well, what's the easiest way in kubuntu then
[02:52] <Healot> heh, clearly
[02:53] <Healot> use the kcontrol?
[02:53] <Healot> KDE Menu > System Settings > Display
[02:53] <turjan> Windows && operating system == false
[02:53] <Healot> i wonder which factoid ubotu have on this?
[02:53] <turjan> XD
[02:54] <apallo27> i've tried it with kontrol
[02:54] <apallo27> it didn't work...
[02:55] <Healot> of course, we already know that...
[02:55] <Healot> you need to configure the monitors either manually, via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:55] <zeronenorez> How can i install Gaim themes? I mean copy theme files to where?
[02:55] <Healot> then you can use that Display module
[02:56] <Healot> !display
[02:56] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:56] <Healot> ok, I sorted the factoid out
[02:59] <pierreth> hello, i'm having a hard time import my contacts in Kontact
[02:59] <pierreth> i don't see the formated name
[03:00] <malice_> !wifi
[03:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:00] <pierreth> How can I make all these names appears
[03:01] <malice_> I installed the wavecan driver and still nothing errrrrr
[03:02] <Nerevar> hdg: cdrom_pc_intr: drive appears comfused
[03:02] <Nerevar> what does it mean
[03:06] <louie_> jbasilio - thanx for the help! it was that mail notification 3.0 apperently.. solid as a rock now
[03:07] <jbasilio> louie_: glad to hear it!  it's amazing the wierd stuff that can destabilize
[03:08] <Nerevar> hdg: cdrom_pc_intr: drive appears comfused
[03:08] <Nerevar> what does it mean
[03:08] <louie_> jbasilio - maybe you can help me with my kde problem ( the reason i swithed to gnome in the first place)
[03:08] <Nerevar> repeats infinitely when i try to launch the live cd.
[03:08] <Nerevar> *confused.
[03:09] <jbasilio> louie_: i can take a shot
[03:09] <Nerevar> during mounting rood file system
[03:09] <Nerevar> *root
[03:09] <mray> Somebody knows what to do when "System Settings" keep staying grayed out. even in Administrator mode!!!?
[03:10] <mray> (can't press "apply" etc..)
[03:10] <louie_> for some reason, when i upgraded to 3.4.3, my resolution defaults at 17XX x (real high anyways) in kde and in the login screen, gnome is the only one that keeps my setting
[03:11] <larson9999> wholly smokes i don't think i'm going to get this tuner going in windows or linux
[03:13] <mray> Somebody knows what to do when "System Settings" keep staying grayed out. even in Administrator mode!!!?
[03:13] <louie_> i checked my xorg config file and the biggest setting is 1200x (cant remeber, the one i use anyways)
[03:13] <jbasilio> louie_: that should be an X thing .. not a kde thing
[03:14] <jbasilio> louie_: do you have the resize-and-rotate thing in your system tray?
[03:15] <malice_> anyone using in here a wireless card with a orinoco chipset?
[03:15] <louie_> no, i don't even know what that is.  i don't understand why gnome isn't affected
[03:15] <jbasilio> louie_: look in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc for anything funny ..
[03:16] <Healot> malice, as far as i know, that chipset is a no-no, !wifi yet?
[03:16] <linuxkid2> hey!
[03:16] <malice_> what is a good card to get that would be plug and play kinda?
[03:16] <Healot> rt24xx or rt25xx >> malice
[03:17] <Healot> most of them are pnp with linux
[03:17] <Healot> look into the list though
[03:17] <linuxkid2> there are plenty of websites for checking hardware compatibility
[03:17] <louie_> jbasilio - oh and xfce is affected too
[03:17] <linuxkid2> wifi in particular
[03:18] <jbasilio> malice_: nvidia ..
[03:18] <malice_> url?
[03:18] <linuxkid2> me?
[03:18] <malice_> yes
[03:18] <linuxkid2> I don't know any off the top of my head.
[03:18] <linuxkid2> Google is what I did.
[03:18] <linuxkid2> linuxdrivers.org, i think
[03:18] <jbasilio> louie_: not sure why gnome isn't affected.  can you post your xorg.conf file to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:19] <Healot> for ubuntu specific
[03:19] <Healot> !wifi
[03:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:19] <malice_> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=2Wire
[03:20] <malice_> why does it say there it is supported?
[03:20] <linuxkid2> How often is that updated? There'll be more at each kernel upgrade, right?
[03:20] <louie_> jbasilio - ok
[03:20] <rej_> CUPS disables administrator commands, and tells me to run the gnome network manager.  KDE equivalent?
[03:20] <linuxkid2> It's the kernel. Ubuntu's kernel won't support the same as SUSE's.
[03:21] <malice_> ok
[03:21] <jbasilio> anyone know what the rotate and resize app is named that runs in the system tray?  i exited it in hopes of restarting to advise louie_  .. but can't find it again
[03:21] <jbasilio> rej_: kprinter probably
[03:21] <_alex> any SuSE users?
[03:22] <spazz> Argh, I am having serious problems with the terminal heh.
[03:22] <linuxkid2> nope. but I live in utah
[03:22] <jbasilio> on the ubuntu channel?
[03:22] <spazz> Could someone look at this pastebin and see if they know what I could do to fix it?
[03:22] <spazz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21743
[03:22] <linuxkid2> If I ever buy an enterprise distro, suse is first on the list.
[03:22] <spazz> I can't get ANYTHING to install.
[03:23] <Healot> E: Unmet dependencies
[03:23] <Healot> common
[03:23] <Healot> read the following factoids
[03:24] <Healot> !repos
[03:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:24] <jbasilio> Healot: more than that .. look @ the end
[03:24] <Healot> !packages
[03:24] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[03:24] <jbasilio> Healot: failed to write to pipe .. pretty nasty internal errors
[03:24] <Healot> it is caused by the previous error...
[03:24] <louie_> jbasilio - ok, i posted it under lchenot (first time posting so i hope i did it right)
[03:25] <Healot> he need apt-get -f install, i think
[03:25] <spazz> What does the serious errors mean?
[03:25] <spazz> think my hdd is dying .. since even the windows installers refuse to work
[03:26] <spazz> So, what do I do to fix it? remove .. some packages? or
[03:26] <Healot> sudo apt-get -f install
[03:26] <spazz> i tried that a min ago, and it gave me that.
[03:26] <spazz> ill try it again
[03:26] <Healot> see if apt can fix the installation errors
[03:27] <jbasilio> louie_: looks ok to me.  (unfortunately)
[03:27] <spazz> dpkg was interrupted ,...
[03:28] <jbasilio> louie_: the only resolution i have in mine is 1280x1024 .. not that it should matter but you might try deleting those other resolutions
[03:28] <louie_> jbasilio - oh well, i can always set it manually, the only bummer is the login screen, no biggie  thanx!  ok, i'll try it
[03:28] <spazz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21745
[03:28] <spazz> that is what it gave me, now.
[03:28] <malice__> linuxkid2
[03:28] <malice__> you still there?
[03:29] <linuxkid2> yes
[03:29] <mray> hi! I have a problem with KDE's system settings - i can't change anything. EVen in Administrator mode!!! - any ideas why??!?
[03:29] <malice__> You said a rt24xx or a rt25xx
[03:30] <malice__> and that will work
[03:30] <malice__> who makes these?
[03:30] <linuxkid2> that wasn't me...
[03:30] <malice__> I am a newbie
[03:30] <linuxkid2> one sec
[03:30] <malice__> big time newbie
[03:30] <malice__> hehe
[03:30] <zorba64> spazz, try sudo apt-get update and then try to sudo apt-get remove librsvg2-2
[03:30] <spazz> ok
[03:30] <linuxkid2> that was healot
[03:30] <malice__> I am just looking for a card that will work in this laptop with kubuntu
[03:31] <jbasilio> mray: try running from console with sudo in front of it .. "sudo kcontrol"
[03:31] <linuxkid2> those are chipsets, by the look of them. made by one manufactorer but used by lots of brands
[03:31] <malice__> I just need to buy another one
[03:31] <malice__> mmmm
[03:31] <linuxkid2> so, google for a card, find our its chipset, and then find out if that has a good linux driver.
[03:32] <spazz> I did the update, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21746
[03:32] <zorba64> mray, more info...what sort of mesages (if any) are you getting?
[03:32] <spazz> I tried running it again and the same thing
[03:33] <zorba64> spazz, you might try looking at the sources.lst for dupes
[03:33] <malice__> my card has a orinoco
[03:33] <mray> ieverything behaves normal. there is no extra message.
[03:33] <spazz> nano the file?
[03:33] <mray> i just press "Administrator Mode" and enter my password. but the items remain grayed out!!
[03:33] <linuxkid2> malice__: so google the card's brand and model number. find the chipset.
[03:33] <linuxkid2> or look at it
[03:33] <linuxkid2> it might say on it
[03:34] <zorba64> spazz, sure sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.lst
[03:34] <spazz> oh ok
[03:34] <malice__> the brand is 2wire
[03:34] <spazz> what does -w do?
[03:34] <mray> spazz: did you mean when i start from console?
[03:34] <zorba64> spazz, stops it wrapping
[03:34] <linuxkid2> malice__: 2Wire Oricoco? or did you say 2Wire brand Orinoco chipset?
[03:35] <malice__> 2 wire and when I searced for it a site told me it was a orinoco chip set
[03:35] <mray> do i paste to a pastebin in here?
[03:35] <shane_> Hey people.
[03:35] <spazz> arrrgh!
[03:35] <spazz> its not letting me get there
[03:36] <malice__> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=2Wire
[03:36] <malice__> see
[03:36] <linuxkid2> malice__: k, now there are many databases where you can search the brand or the chipset
[03:36] <malice__> this is the site
[03:36] <linuxkid2> ok, one min
[03:36] <shane_> I have been searching for a program that removes duplicate MP3's from a folder. I have 34000 MP3's and I think about 9k are dupes.
[03:36] <spazz> ok now its working
[03:37] <malice__> this is a pc card for a laptop
[03:37] <shane_> I cannot find one for linux but I have found a few for windows
[03:37] <linuxkid2> pcmcia
[03:37] <spazz> i dont see any dupes
[03:37] <malice__> yes I can just pull it out
[03:37] <mray> zorba64: here is the error i get when i start from console and browse the display settings that do not work correctly: http://pastebin.com/776911
[03:38] <mray> i have no idea what that all means.
[03:38] <malice__> I installed that wavlan driver and that did nothing
[03:38] <malice__> wavelan even
[03:38] <linuxkid2> !wifi
[03:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:38] <linuxkid2> look there malice__
[03:38] <malice__> I used that also
[03:38] <malice__> :)
[03:38] <linuxkid2> is it in there?
[03:38] <malice__> not that I could see
[03:38] <malice__> this was my last hope
[03:39] <malice__> then I was going to go out and by another brand hehhe
[03:39] <linuxkid2> then, to use it you'd need to install a kernel module or compile the kernel yourself. Not too fun.
[03:39] <linuxkid2> for some. :-)
[03:40] <zorba64> mray, looks rather ugly...and i have no idea..???
[03:40] <linuxkid2> malice__: just go and buy a good card. check the ubuntu dbase before purchase though. :)
[03:41] <malice__> hehe I will thanks anyways....
[03:41] <malice__> l8r
[03:48] <D4rkly> i used to have sound working in wine while running WoW but i upgraded wine and now i have no sound ?
[03:52] <D4rkly> yay got sound now :)
[03:53] <Healot> how's it coming, lad?
[03:54] <inteliwasp> what do i need for my realtek chipset wlan card to wirk?
[03:54] <inteliwasp> *work
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> patience, luck, and a fanatical devotion to the pope.
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:56] <swamptu> i just installed kubuntu and mine worked out fo the box, it's a wpc11
[03:56] <joseph> hello all
[03:56] <joseph> has anyone installed a Gigabit NetXtreme NIC under KDE before?
[03:58] <swamptu> inteliwasp: have you tried plugging in the network card and starting the wirelss assitant?
[03:58] <shane_> is there a music manager for Kubuntu ( or general linux) that would remove duplicate MP3 files from a collection?
[03:58] <inteliwasp> what the command for the wireless assistant?
[03:58] <joseph> also anyone tell me what I need to do if i get the error: *** No rule to make target 'modules'. Stop. when trying to run make to compile a driver?
[03:59] <swamptu> inteliwasp: i just selected it from the kmenu under 'internet'
[03:59] <joseph> swamptu> it is not a wireless card so it closes as soon as i open it
[04:01] <swamptu> joseph: im not sure about your problem I am new to this OS but i was gonna try to help inteliwasp get his going by doing what i just did
[04:02] <inteliwasp> swamptu:  it failed
[04:02] <swamptu> did it see any networks?
[04:02] <inteliwasp> yes
[04:02] <swamptu> ok good
[04:02] <inteliwasp> and no there is no wep
[04:02] <swamptu> inteliwasp: ok now what i did after that worked is install knetworkmanager
[04:03] <trappist> I'm trying to install ubuntu in vmware, and the graphical install is way too slow to deal with.  how do I launch ye olde installer from the cdrom?
[04:03] <crimsun> you can't from the live cd. You need to use an image of the alternate installer.
[04:04] <trappist> bleh.
[04:05] <swamptu> inteliwasp: i installed knetworkmanager from synaptic or you could prolly do apt-get install knetworkmanager
[04:05] <inteliwasp> swamptu:  finnished
[04:05] <inteliwasp> swamptu:  ...installing that is
[04:05] <swamptu> inteliwasp: ok open it from the 'internet' in kmenu
[04:06] <swamptu> inteliwasp: knetworkmanager that is
[04:07] <inteliwasp> swamptu:  open
[04:07] <swamptu> inteliwasp: ok now use that to find wireless networks
[04:07] <swamptu> you left click the little icon it made down in your taskbar i think
[04:08] <mzelem> Does anyone know if there is a USB Faxmodem that will work in kubuntu?
[04:08] <inteliwasp> swamptu:  ...hrmm... it only sees my wired netwirk
[04:09] <swamptu> inteliwasp: take out your ethernet cable
[04:09] <swamptu> inteliwasp: it will then autofind thw wireless networkjs
[04:09] <swamptu> then come back and tell me if it worked
[04:10] <inteliwasp> nope
[04:10] <inteliwasp> just did
[04:10] <swamptu> you have ethernet plugged in on that laptop?
[04:11] <inteliwasp> yes, i did unpluged it but no joy...
[04:11] <swamptu> you should maybe even remove the ethernet cable to your laptop and restart your pc with your card plugged in and hten start knetworkmanager
[04:11] <swamptu> i think thats what i did
[04:12] <swamptu> you say there is no security?
[04:12] <swamptu> no wep key?
[04:12] <inteliwasp> thats corect, no wep
[04:12] <swamptu> well i would remove the ethernet cable to your laptop and restart your pc with your card plugged in and hten start knetworkmanager and see if it works....worth a shot
[04:13] <inteliwasp> i tried that
[04:13] <Nerevar> Ok
[04:13] <Nerevar> I got the live cd to boot by using the irqpoll option
[04:13] <swamptu> inteliwasp: you dint try that yet though using knetworkmanager cause you just installed it
[04:13] <Nerevar> Couldnt get the wireless working though
[04:13] <inteliwasp> but apon looking at dmesg, the last line when i inserted the wlan card, it says:..
[04:14] <Nerevar> I tried enabling eth1 but it wouldn't enable and it wouldn't explain why
[04:14] <inteliwasp> [17180435.060000]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[04:16] <Nerevar> Any ideas?
[04:16] <swamptu> inteliwasp: are you using ndiswrapper to install your drivers?
[04:17] <inteliwasp> swamptu:  no
[04:17] <swamptu> ok i dint either
[04:17] <inteliwasp> Nerevar:  is this your only network card?
[04:18] <Nerevar> Nod
[04:18] <Nerevar> Well
[04:18] <Nerevar> Yeah i think
[04:18] <inteliwasp> Nerevar:  try eth0
[04:18] <Nerevar> I think eth0 is my ground based connection, but i cant hook it up
[04:18] <inteliwasp> Nerevar:  don't wory, i did this before... ;)
[04:18] <Nerevar> Too far away
[04:19] <Nerevar> The icon for ETH0 was a funny little green card
[04:19] <Nerevar> For eth1 it looked like to black keyholes or something
[04:19] <inteliwasp> Nerevar:  try runnin this command in a terminal:  ifconfig -a
[04:19] <Nerevar> ok
[04:20] <Nerevar> and post the results here right?
[04:20] <Nerevar> Ill reboot into kubuntu ok
[04:20] <inteliwasp> Nerevar:  just the interface names
[04:20] <Nerevar> ok
[04:21] <joseph> anyone have experience using makefiles under KDE?
[04:22] <Healot> compiling Qt applications?
[04:25] <joseph> Healot> i am trying to compile a driver
[04:26] <Healot> !build
[04:26] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:27] <joseph> Healot> need to use 'make' to build it and it gives me an error saying that there is 'No rule to make target 'Modules'. Stop.
[04:27] <trappist> crimsun: in case it comes up again, the "safe" graphical installer is much, much faster in vmware
[04:28] <Healot> follow links that ubotu gave
[04:28] <mcrandello> is this something that requires a ./configure first?
[04:32] <joseph> Healot/ubotu> I did that...for some reason ./configure gives me a 'no such file or directory' so i assumed i am missing another package perhaps.
[04:33] <malice_> ? for a newbie I am installing something and I have to go into sudo vi orinoco.c  when I go in there and edit how do I then save this? what buttons do I type?
[04:33] <crimsun> ZZ
[04:33] <crimsun> (capitalisation matters)
[04:34] <malice_> just type ZZ
[04:34] <malice_> and it will save my mods?
[04:34] <crimsun> [esc]  ZZ
[04:34] <malice_> ooh ok
[04:34] <malice_> ty
[04:35] <Bearcat> Hey folks
[04:36] <trappist> you know, I've known about ZZ since I was a wee tadpole, and I've never used it once.  I just :wq
[04:36] <Bearcat> i'm trying to help foot install his printer. No matter what printer we choose it tells us he can't load the driver. We have hplip, cups, and foomatic installed. What else are we missing?
[04:37] <CapNemo> ahh 3.5.4 available ?! but apt-get update see nothing new ??!
[04:37] <malice_> static int force_monitor; /* static int force_monitor = 1 */    this is what I did and this is what they told me... is this correct? From here, locate the line in orinoco.c that says static int force_monitor; /* = 0 */ and change it to say static int force_monitor = 1;
[04:37] <trappist> CapNemo: you need a new line in your sources.list
[04:37] <Hawkwind> CapNemo: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main  <~~Add this line
[04:38] <trappist> or: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[04:38] <CapNemo> ah oki a repository from kubuntu directly
[04:38] <trappist> yes
[04:38] <Hawkwind> trappist: Same here with the ZZ stuff.  The :wq just happens as a habit
[04:39] <trappist> Hawkwind: ZZ seems like an obscure piece of vim trivia to me
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Agreed :)
[04:39] <mcrandello> It's all about pico
[04:39] <trappist> pico is for girls </texteditorflamewar>
[04:39] <CapNemo> eheh the famous ZZ of vim ^^
[04:39] <mcrandello> all the useful commands listed at the bottom, "^" means hold ctrl and that letter
[04:40] <mcrandello> girls apparently care more about editing their files than learning button combinations in an abominable interface
[04:40] <mcrandello> plus I like girls
[04:40] <mcrandello> ;P
[04:41] <Healot> nano is smaller, hence nano :)
[04:41] <spazz> my sources list is messed up i think
[04:41] <mcrandello> I do have a copy of the vi quick reference guide from an old OLD installation of sysV. I keep it around as a makeshift coaster
[04:43] <Kr4t05> !webcams
[04:43] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:46] <CapNemo> mmm kubuntu seems a good distro :)
[04:47] <spazz> yea always breaks the fastest. heh.
[04:48] <Bearcat> hey folks. it seems that kubuntu is using hplip 0.9.7?  Why is it so old? How can we get 1.6.7?
[04:49] <Ballistik> sudo apt-get upgrade hplip?
[04:49] <CapNemo> ok time to relaunch kde
[04:50] <Bearcat> Ballistik: what is the latest version in the...uh..repository?
[04:50] <Ballistik> Not sure mate
[04:51] <spazz> How do I ... use my backup sources.list?
[04:52] <spazz> I have a backup file of it, but ... I cant rename any of the files...
[04:52] <mcrandello> .9.7 showing in adept no updates available
[04:52] <mcrandello> this with uni+multi enabled
[04:52] <mcrandello> time to break out the source and checkinstall
[04:53] <spazz> ... everything BROKEN here.
[04:53] <mcrandello> spazz, using "mv" to rename it?
[04:53] <mcrandello> err "sudo mv"
[04:53] <spazz> ... dont know what that is.
[04:53] <Ballistik> mv moves a file
[04:54] <spazz> ... so what is the easiest way to use my backup file?
[04:54] <mcrandello> or renames it, "moving" it to a new name
[04:54] <Bearcat> hello foot, fancy meeting you here
[04:54] <mcrandello> you trying to rename it in konqueror?
[04:55] <spazz> yea
[04:55] <foot> Bearcat: I brought kitty treats\
[04:55] <Bearcat> yay!
[04:55] <spazz> is that how i should do it tho, rename the original source list to ... backup2 or something and just rename the backup file to the orginal?
[04:55] <mcrandello> okay, right click the desktop spazz then hit "run command"
[04:55] <spazz> ok
[04:55] <mcrandello> type in "sudo konqueror"
[04:55] <spazz> ok
[04:56] <mcrandello> do NOT go wildly clicking and dragging you can ruin things if you aren't careful :)
[04:56] <mcrandello> you should be able to rename it now
[04:56] <spazz> nothing happened.
[04:56] <mcrandello> right click and rename didn't let you rename it?
[04:56] <spazz> no, im saying konqueror didnt open
[04:56] <irrelevant> try '$ kdesu konqueror'
[04:56] <mcrandello> ah
[04:57] <mcrandello> yeah sorry use kdesu instead of sudo in there
[04:57] <mcrandello> there's a thing you can do that keeps you from having to put in a password but that's dangerous and for another episode :)
[04:59] <Bearcat> hey folks, an apt-get update renews your package listing and an apt-get upgrade installs the new packages, right?
[04:59] <mcrandello> yes
[04:59] <Bearcat> cool
[04:59] <Bearcat> thanx
[04:59] <CapNemo> or dist-upgrade also
[04:59] <mcrandello> if you want to update everything use "dist-upgrade"
[04:59] <Bearcat> so apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:59] <mcrandello> otherwise you'll have to list the packages you want upgraded
[05:00] <mcrandello> that would do it
[05:00] <mcrandello> spazz, you get it renamed?
[05:00] <spazz> yea
[05:00] <spazz> now trying apt-get update
[05:00] <mcrandello> make sure to close that window back out right away
[05:01] <mcrandello> unrestricted power and all that
[05:01] <spazz> lol hooray
[05:01] <CapNemo> spazz: your system is broken :) ?
[05:01] <spazz> think so
[05:02] <spazz> cuz apt get wouldnt work at all kept getting errors
[05:02] <spazz> so replaced my sources.list with the backup..and going to add repos again
[05:02] <Bearcat> hey folks, i know i'm not a debian/kubuntu user, but i wanted an opinon from another distro. since version 5.0.15 mysql uses 98% of my cpu when ever i close a databse. Anyone else seen that?
[05:03] <Bearcat> foot: pastebin.c
[05:03] <Bearcat> er..
[05:03] <Bearcat> pastebin.ca
[05:03] <CapNemo> Bearcat: never see that no
[05:03] <Kr4t05> !webcam
[05:03] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:04] <Bearcat> CapNemo: ok, so it's probably some wierd library or 64-bit thing on my distro
[05:05] <foot> Bearcat: http://pastebin.ca/150574
[05:06] <CapNemo> Bearcat: i use kubuntu and archlinux and no problem of this kind sorry
[05:06] <Bearcat> CapNemo: thank you . that is helpful
[05:07] <malice_> alice@malice-laptop:/usr/src/orinoco-0.15rc4$ sudo cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[05:07] <malice_> sudo: cd: command not found
[05:07] <timthelion> how do I make it so that fetchmail can write to /var/mail/timthelion withought having to be run as root?
[05:07] <malice_> ?
[05:07] <Bearcat> ok, folks..um..apparently the most recent version of the hplip drivers is 0.9.7 from before february??! Can someone verify that for me please?
[05:07] <CapNemo> timthelion: give to fetchmail the right permissions
[05:08] <timthelion> how do I do that?
[05:08] <CapNemo> timthelion: chmod and chown are your friends :)
[05:09] <CapNemo> timthelion: or give to fetchmail the group "mail"
[05:10] <Bearcat> foot: localhost:631
[05:13] <CapNemo> rhaaa there is no other style than baghira in the packages ?!
[05:15] <Kr4t05> Gah...
[05:15] <Kr4t05> I hate this webcam...
[05:15] <Kr4t05> I got it for free, and I'm too cheap to buy a new one.
[05:15] <Bearcat> *snarls*
[05:15] <CapNemo> Kr4t05: what's the problem with ?
[05:16] <Bearcat> i am beginning to find trouble shooting kubuntu exasperating
[05:16] <Bearcat> why the heck would CUPS refuse to add a printer for foot, when he is root?
[05:16] <Kr4t05> CapNemo: Nothing that you could possibly help, AFAIK. I have an IBM PC Camera, which, according to every site I've looked at, isn't supported at all.
[05:17] <SpAwN> does anyone here use wireless and have a linksys wireless router...everytime i try and turn on wireless protection....ie wep i am unable to connect to the router.....my router had me enter a passphrease then it generated 4 keys....which ive tried useing the passphrase and all the diff keys it gave me and it still doesnt work
[05:17] <zblach> SpAwN:
[05:17] <zblach> yes, yes, and don't use the passphrase on your computer
[05:17] <SpAwN> i tried using systemsettings and the kde wireless lan monitor
[05:17] <zblach> use the first key generated
[05:17] <CapNemo> SpAwN: i have the same config than you and its working fine :)
[05:17] <Kr4t05> CapNemo: and, I can't use EasyCam, because it requires GNOME files.
[05:17] <SpAwN> zblach, very interesting....i tried that
[05:18] <zblach> they don't necessarly use the same algorithm to generate pass keys
[05:18] <CapNemo> Kr4t05: then buy another cam :)
[05:18] <SpAwN> should it be hex or acii or w.e it is
[05:18] <zblach> and what're you doing using wep anyways? wap or radius is the way to go
[05:18] <zblach> enter it in hex
[05:18] <Bearcat> has anyone ever set up CUPS in kubuntu before. I/we are going a little mad here.
[05:18] <SpAwN> hmm well i tried using wep
[05:18] <CapNemo> SpAwN: on my wifi router i have put 123456789 and on my laptop 123456789 also as well .. nothing complicated :)
[05:19] <Kr4t05> CapNemo: But, I don't want to! :< I shouldn't have to form my life around my PC, I should be able to form my PC around my life! That's why I started using Linux to begin with.
[05:19] <Nerevar> OK
[05:19] <CapNemo> Kr4t05: sorry this is the real world down here ;)
[05:19] <SpAwN> CapNemo, yea i know it shouldnt be hard.....i just think somthing wasnt quit right...
[05:19] <Kr4t05> :<
[05:19] <Nerevar> So I installed Kubuntu ... and i think it said i have broadcom 5300 for a wireless card
[05:19] <Nerevar> wirelss chip
[05:19] <DFM> Spawn: I am a little late in responding but I use a dlink wifi and a linksys router.
[05:19] <Nerevar> On my linksys wireless g card
[05:20] <CapNemo> Bearcat: I have to configure mine, perhaps i can help you
[05:20] <SpAwN> i have both linksys card and router
[05:20] <DFM> Like they said just use the first key for wep and you should be fine
[05:20] <Nerevar> Anywyas...  From what I hear you need to install NDISWrapper but im not sure how
[05:20] <Nerevar> I tried using Agent or whatever to install it, and it couldnt contact the net and i didnt know how to add the CD
[05:20] <Bearcat> foot: do you have an /dev/usb/lp0 ?
[05:20] <apallo27> is it normal for xorg to take 256+ megs of ram?
[05:21] <SpAwN> well i have other option in my router...is there a better easier one?
[05:21] <Nerevar> But I have a bigger problem... I installed kubuntu and it didnt seem to install grub
[05:21] <SpAwN> ...i dont know much about diff kinds of wireless protection
[05:21] <trappist> apallo27: sometimes ram consumed by gui apps is shown as being used by X
[05:21] <Bearcat> foot: ls /dev/usb/lp0
[05:21] <Nerevar> After i completed the install, it booted right back into windows
[05:21] <Nerevar> It didnt give me the grub menu
[05:21] <CapNemo> Bearcat: yes the same
[05:21] <trappist> apallo27: like, sometimes killing firefox or something will fix a situation like that
[05:22] <Bearcat> ls /dev/lp0
[05:22] <Nerevar> Shouldnt grub pop up when you boot
[05:22] <apallo27> firefox isn't running...
[05:22] <Nerevar> ?
[05:22] <trappist> apallo27: just an example
[05:22] <apallo27> ahh
[05:22] <SpAwN> allright im gona go try this once more....b4 my borhter goes to bed and i have no axx to the router
[05:22] <trappist> apallo27: also, some apps (notably gimv) don't clean up well after themselves, and the longer you use it, the more ram X eats until you restart X
[05:22] <Nerevar> how does grub work? doesnt it pop up when you boot?
[05:22] <Bearcat> CapNemo: what?
[05:23] <SpAwN> oh what is the best way to set eh wep.....systemsettings...or the kde wireless assistance thing?
[05:23] <CapNemo> Bearcat: one moment.. im connecting the printer to usb port
[05:23] <Bearcat> foot: echo "hello" > /dev/lp0
[05:23] <apallo27> nevarar, it doesn't pop up with a menu if you don't have any other operating systems installed
[05:23] <DFM> nerevar: If you installed correctly it should
[05:23] <Bearcat> CapNemo: thank you
[05:23] <trappist> SpAwN: kwifimanager
[05:23] <DFM> that to
[05:23] <SpAwN> trappist, k thanks
[05:23] <NDPTAL85> Isn't it KNetworkManager?
[05:25] <foot> root@Hermes:~# echo "hello" > /dev/lp0
[05:25] <CapNemo> Bearcat: i just got a device named : /dev/usblp0 and not /dev/usb/lp0
[05:25] <Nerevar> anyone knows if grub menu should appear at boot?
[05:25] <apallo27> nevrar: it won't if you only have kubuntu installed
[05:26] <Nerevar> i have kubutntu and xp
[05:26] <Nerevar> I just installed kubuntu, but
[05:26] <CapNemo> Bearcat: i just went now to http://localhost:631/admin and the interface propose me to add the printer just connected
[05:26] <Kr4t05> CapNemo: This camera did work with Breezy, once upon a time, but that was awhile ago.
[05:26] <Nerevar> It didn't give me a menu when i booted up
[05:26] <Nerevar> what gives?
[05:26] <Ash-Fox> !xgl
[05:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:27] <apallo27> nevarar, if you won't listen to anyone, why should they help you?
[05:27] <Kr4t05> CapNemo: And, as you could guess, downgrading is not something I'd want to do.
[05:27] <Bearcat> CapNemo: that's what we've been doign. However using both the kcontrol center and the http interface, he gets permission denied errors when installing as "root" or his user with su privilages at least. Ideas?
[05:28] <Nerevar> I listened
[05:28] <apallo27> then why do you keep asking?
[05:28] <CapNemo> Bearcat: then i cant finalize the connect because it asked for a root passwd .. no root passwd on ubuntu .. thats ducky
[05:28] <Bearcat> CapNemo: yeah! See? Now what the fsk do we do?
[05:28] <Kr4t05> !vmware
[05:28] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:28] <Nerevar> because the responses weren't helping
[05:29] <Nerevar> rebooting
[05:29] <christian> have you thought of setting a root password?
[05:29] <CapNemo> Bearcat: let me look at the cups config file .. its really stupid
[05:30] <apallo27> nerevar: check out the menu.lst file in /root/grub/
[05:30] <CapNemo> Bearcat: i think i have to add my user to the group "lpadmin" and it will work
[05:32] <Bearcat> CapNemo: thank you for the help so far
[05:33] <CapNemo> Bearcat: sorry not working :) still looking at this config file :)
[05:35] <CapNemo> or i should log out
[05:35] <foot> Bearcat: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[05:37] <CapNemo> rhaa
[05:44] <nils_> hello
[05:45] <nils_> anyways quick question...my audio doesn't seem to be working at all...ive been testing it with mp3's which i know dont work in kubuntu however ive installed the codecs and such but no audio is coming out of the speakers
[05:46] <CapNemo> Bearcat: rhaa i will soon remove the require in the file ...
[05:47] <nils_> did anyone read my last message?
[05:47] <maltaethiron> i did
[05:47] <maltaethiron> and i have that same problem on an old pc i installed kubuntu on
[05:47] <nils_> score you win a virtual ice cream sunday lol
[05:48] <nils_> this ones 9 years old...still pretty good htough...1.8 ghz processer 6600gt nvidia good soundcard so idk whats up
[05:48] <maltaethiron> hmm
[05:48] <maltaethiron> i actually havent tried to troubleshoot my own problem
[05:49] <foot> Bearcat: fone died
[05:49] <nils_> well how do u configure which soundcard u use...or audio device in kubuntu
[05:49] <Bearcat> foot: my battery is low too
[05:49] <maltaethiron> yeah, havent figured out that one yet
[05:49] <foot> Bearcat: ok attempting to transfer
[05:49] <nils_> gosh darn
[05:49] <irrelevant> System Settings -> Sound & Multimedia
[05:50] <nils_> but like it doesnt allow you to chooose...or at least that had no effect on my problem
[05:51] <foot> Bearcat: access denied
[05:51] <foot> Bearcat: but to the source fiule.
[05:51] <foot> Bearcat: hang on a sec
[05:52] <SpAwN> hehe yea somthing isnt right.......i cant set encryption and connect to it
[05:53] <Bearcat> foot: brb
[05:53] <foot> Bearcat: it starts the transfer but then access denied to lovely, the owner is lovely, the group is lovely, and I can view and modify. what the flapjacks is going on?
[05:54] <SpAwN> i used wep.....set a password....tried everysingle key it gave me........nothing i tried kwifimanger and systemsettings and the other kde monitor...i think its called kwlan somthing
[05:54] <CapNemo> Bearcat: ok i have succeeded to add a printer by removing the limits and putting only localhost access ... but that's still ducky
[05:56] <CapNemo> yess its printing :)
[05:56] <CapNemo> pfff the cupd.conf in ubuntu is really messed up
[05:56] <Bearcat> CapNemo: thank you. I tell you this sudo-no root stuff really set my hackles up. I'm so used to working as root, that i find it all very strange
[05:56] <CapNemo> im comparing the file to the archlinux one
[05:56] <actinic> nils_, sound an issue with other distros?
[05:58] <SpAwN> i did see this in the consol when i ran kwifimandager http://pastebin.ulteo.us/67
[05:58] <Bearcat> foot: O.o
[05:58] <Bearcat> foot: oh
[05:58] <CapNemo> SpAwN: have you configured your wifi with iwconfig ?
[05:58] <foot> Bearcat: yes?
[05:59] <Bearcat> foot: can you even create a directory on that drive?
[05:59] <CapNemo> SpAwN: are you sure that wlan0 is the correct device ?
[05:59] <SpAwN> CapNemo, well i tried to use iwconfig wlan0 key andiputkeyhere
[05:59] <foot> trying, it is owned by root, so that is the dificulty
[05:59] <SpAwN> CapNemo, yes wlan0 is defiantlythe right one
[06:00] <Bearcat> foot: ahh, can you change the owner?
[06:00] <spazz> How do I fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21748
[06:00] <foot> Bearcat: trying to get it to mount
[06:01] <foot> I cant reset the permissoins from the  system steeings
[06:01] <spazz> .......... everyone dead?
[06:02] <CapNemo> spazz: have you used like apt-get said : apt-get -f install ?
[06:02] <Bearcat> foot: can you load the konqueror app as root?
[06:02] <foot> Bearcat: just a sec
[06:02] <Delphinus> Just did a clean install of Dapper, and when booting get the following error: "There are differences between boot sector and its backup"
[06:03] <aevaughn> Is giving Konqueror root permissions a good idea???
[06:03] <Delphinus> google finds this http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#fix-vfat-mount as a fix
[06:03] <Delphinus> but i'm curious what the actual problem is?
[06:03] <Bearcat> aevaughn: as long as you are carefull yes. I do it all the time. But i've been using linux for 7 years
[06:03] <SpAwN> when i use cli to set the key i get this http://pastebin.ulteo.us/68
[06:03] <aevaughn> Bearcat: That does make a difference!
[06:04] <Bearcat> aevaughn: lol
[06:04] <CapNemo> aevaughn:  using root is not a good thing to do when you go on the net ... but as said Bearcat be carreful
[06:04] <foot> I just added the root group to lovely's secondary groups
[06:05] <foot> Bearcat: ok konqueror as root
[06:05] <CapNemo> aevaughn: why do need the root for konq ?
[06:05] <Bearcat> foot: lol, that;s kinda wierd, but at this point, if it works
[06:06] <spazz> I tried the -f install deal. Still broken.
[06:06] <spazz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21749
[06:06] <spazz> look ...
[06:06] <foot> Bearcat: ok as root I am able to copy the files over to the hexternal drive
[06:07] <Bearcat> foot: hexternal O.o Bite your tounge!
[06:08] <CapNemo> spazz: let me see
[06:08] <foot> Bearcat: fruedian slip
[06:08] <spazz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21749
[06:09] <CapNemo> spazz: i suggest you to remove the files from the cache
[06:09] <Bearcat> hey foot, let's take the rest of this private. I'm going to help you create a jabber account. This is a free open source alternative to msn, icq etc. Alright?
[06:09] <foot> Bearcat: ok
[06:09] <spazz> So just delete everything in /var/cache/archives/ ?
[06:10] <Bearcat> foot: look under "internet" probably and look for a program called kopete
[06:10] <foot> Bearcat: ok
[06:10] <CapNemo> spazz: nooo, use : apt-get clean
[06:11] <spazz> oh .. sudo apt-get clean is all?
[06:11] <CapNemo> yup
[06:11] <spazz> its frozen now lol
[06:11] <Bearcat> foot: in the menu select Settings..Confugure
[06:12] <Bearcat> foot: you should see "Here You Can Manage All Your Accounts"
[06:12] <CapNemo> spazz: apt-get clean returns nothing to the screen
[06:12] <CapNemo> just remove the files
[06:12] <spazz> it just dropped me to another prompt
[06:13] <spazz> remove those specific files, or all of them in that folder?
[06:13] <foot> Bearcat: I havent opened it before. so it is asking me which to connect to
[06:13] <Bearcat> is there a create new option or something?
[06:14] <CapNemo> spazz: i told you : apt-get clean just remove the files in the cache and return the prompt .. nothing is displayed
[06:14] <CapNemo> now try again apt-get -f install
[06:14] <spazz> ok
[06:14] <foot> Bearcat: create new jabber acount. what server?
[06:14] <spazz> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:15] <spazz> i tried doing what it said
[06:15] <spazz> and it told me "dkpg : command not found "
[06:15] <spazz> hold on...
[06:15] <CapNemo> dpkg
[06:15] <spazz> yea jsut realized that
[06:15] <Bearcat> foot: jabber.org
[06:15] <Bearcat> foot: you can make your username Bigfoot, i bet you will be the only one.
[06:15] <spazz> now i have new errors
[06:16] <Bearcat> foot: you can leave the port as-in
[06:16] <foot> so Inch of cannot conect to x server
[06:16] <spazz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21750
[06:16] <Bearcat> foot: what?
[06:17] <spazz> So what does that mean? I have to install libcroco3?
[06:17] <CapNemo> spazz: have you recently update your packages list with apt-get update ?
[06:17] <spazz> yea
[06:18] <Ash-Fox> How do I reload KDE's menus without logging in and out?
[06:18] <foot> Bearcat: well it did open but I got a whoole lot of stuff unable to conect with or open the x server
[06:18] <actinic> 220 in this room and 5 peeps talkin, lol
[06:18] <CapNemo> spazz:try this : apt-get install libcroco3
[06:18] <pacman> there's a webpage that I can't find...it lists a TON of games that I can apt-get install
[06:18] <pacman> anyone know what I"m talking about
[06:18] <Ash-Fox> pacman, add/remove programs ?
[06:19] <actinic> pacman, it isn't msn.com is it?  :)
[06:19] <pacman> no
[06:19] <spazz> maybe that worked...
[06:19] <pacman> I believe it was a Kubuntu page, but i don't remember
[06:19] <CapNemo> spazz: "maybe" ??!
[06:19] <Ash-Fox> pacman, well, there is a huge list of games there under the games category
[06:20] <spazz> yea, now it works. its installing the wacom package i wanted now.
[06:20] <actinic> maybe loki installers?
[06:20] <DaSkreech> actinic: He yhey hey :)
[06:20] <foot> Bearcat: fourcats
[06:21] <DaSkreech> !games
[06:21] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:21] <actinic> hey DaSkreech
[06:21] <DaSkreech> pacman: There you go
[06:21] <Bearcat> foot: oh. That's ok
[06:21] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Was just looking for you How are you?
[06:21] <actinic> check this list too: http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6
[06:21] <foot> Bearcat: but they smell
[06:21] <Bearcat> foot: do you have a little lightbub icon in the kopete window now?  At the botttom of the app window?
[06:21] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: good thankx to Fod
[06:21] <lnxkde> God*
[06:22] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: you?
[06:22] <Bearcat> Praise Be to Fod!!
[06:22] <foot> Bearcat: I am attempting to sign on to jabber
[06:22] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: I was trying to figure out if that was God Gof or Food :)
[06:22] <CapNemo> spazz: happy to see its woirking :)
[06:23] <lnxkde> lol
[06:23] <pacman> daskreech: close, but no cigar...thanks though
[06:23] <spazz> lol
[06:23] <spazz> hmm kate wont open xorg.conf
[06:23] <DaSkreech> damn
[06:23] <spazz> running konq as root
[06:23] <spazz> kdesu konqueror
[06:23] <spazz> KDEinit could not launch 'kate'
[06:24] <pacman> there was a game I wanted
[06:24] <pacman> it was a soccer management game
[06:24] <Ash-Fox> Why can't you just search for it?
[06:24] <pacman> or football managment, depending on what corner of the world you're it
[06:24] <pacman> I don't remember the name of it
[06:24] <irrelevant> bygfoot?
[06:25] <pacman> thank you...that's it
[06:25] <spazz> How do I CD to a directory?
[06:25] <Bearcat> hey pacman, have you found any decent pacman clones out there for linux? I can't belive i can't find one
[06:25] <spazz> I tried cd /ect/X11/
[06:25] <spazz> but it didnt work
[06:25] <lnxkde> DaSkreech:  so whats up?
[06:25] <pacman> Bearcat: I haven't really looked
[06:25] <DaSkreech> HIrricane tomorrow
[06:25] <Bearcat> spazz: you may have to sudo that command
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Well in a few hours
[06:26] <Ash-Fox> spazz, now try cd /etc/X11
[06:26] <spazz> now it just says command not found
[06:26] <irrelevant> cd won't work with sudo...
[06:27] <irrelevant> did you try '$ kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' ?
[06:27] <spazz> nope. i will tho
[06:27] <spazz> what does the $ do?
[06:27] <irrelevant> just showing the normal user prompt
[06:27] <irrelevant> '$ ' normal user '# ' root
[06:28] <Bearcat> foot: you still alive out there?
[06:28] <foot> Bearcat: almost
[06:28] <Bearcat> lol
[06:28] <Bearcat> foot: are you signed on?
[06:28] <foot> I think so
[06:28] <Bearcat> what username?
[06:29] <foot> footers
[06:29] <foot> Bearcat: I imagine you are bearcat
[06:29] <CapNemo> Bearcat: if you hate sudo .. then use : sudo bash :)
[06:29] <spazz> what does all this mean ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21751
[06:29] <CapNemo> i managed my ubuntu like that
[06:30] <Bearcat> foot: yeah, but i run my own Jabber server. So you'll need to add me as bearcat@jabber.feline-soul.net
[06:30] <spazz> What is sudo bash?
[06:30] <Bearcat> CapNemo: well, i do not' use kubunto anyway. I'm just helping foot here
[06:30] <CapNemo> and on archlinux just a regular su - :)
[06:31] <CapNemo> spazz: guess :) !
[06:31] <spazz> i .. cant guess, i have no idea
[06:31] <DaSkreech> spazz: That means you have a default Xconfig
[06:31] <CapNemo> spazz: you dont know what is sudo ?
[06:32] <spazz> I dont know what sudo BASH means
[06:33] <CapNemo> spazz: sudo launch a process with the root id .. and bash is the shell .. so you have a shell with the root id ..that's all
[06:33] <Bearcat> later folks. I'm off
[06:33] <spazz> Oh. So bash isnt a command for sudo or something? Just .. bash means the terminal being run as root?
[06:33] <Bearcat> thanx for the help CapNemo
[06:34] <CapNemo> Bearcat: youre welcome :)
[06:34] <CapNemo> spazz: no bash is a program like cp, ls , and so on
[06:35] <CapNemo> spazz: i just told you that sudo launch a program with the root id
[06:35] <spazz> oh.
[06:35] <spazz> So what is bash used for?
[06:36] <CapNemo> spazz: have you launch a terminal already ?
[06:36] <spazz> yea.
[06:36] <spazz> im in one now about to see if i can apt-get inkscape
[06:36] <spazz> program for my graphics tablet.
[06:36] <CapNemo> bash is the program launching the tasks you ask in the terminal
[06:36] <spazz> There is a command to search the apt-get archives in the terminal isnt there?
[06:37] <irrelevant> '$ apt-cache search inkscape'
[06:37] <spazz> hey it found it lol
[06:38] <irrelevant> actually, that's a pretty specific search... you can do '$ apt-cache showpkg inkscape' for details
[06:38] <spazz> What bittorent client do you like the best?
[06:38] <spazz> ktorrent is the worst app ive ever used
[06:38] <lnxkde> someone can help me making some filecharing with my 2 kubuntu mashines?
[06:39] <CapNemo> mmm why konqueror is creating so much kio_http processes and never kill them !!! the cpu is running for nothing .. any idea ?
[06:39] <CapNemo> lnxkde: use sftp :)
[06:40] <lnxkde> CapNemo : hum?
[06:40] <lnxkde> *^%#* nevermind , I gived my router to my GF .....
[06:40] <lnxkde> they need it more on their hause...
[06:41] <spazz> What is the best way to get Java?
[06:41] <lnxkde> but I need to pass 10gig of things from one PC to another....
[06:41] <spazz> Apt-get or from their website? and do it manually
[06:41] <spazz> heard java is buggy
[06:41] <lnxkde> apt-get
[06:41] <spazz> theres 2 diff versions isnt there
[06:41] <CapNemo> spazz: apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:42] <lnxkde> sun-java5-jre sun-java5-bin
[06:42] <CapNemo> and sun-java5-jdk to develop in java
[06:42] <CapNemo> lnxkde: then use ftp to pass those files
[06:43] <spazz> said it couldnt find it
[06:43] <_bbeck> Have people played trackballs before, I just found out about it, and it's really fun.
[06:43] <lnxkde> CapNemo : I dont know how...
[06:44] <spazz> I will brb - going to see if my tablet works. Have to logout of X and log back in heh, woo.
[06:44] <robin> hola
[06:44] <CapNemo> lnxkde: install pure-ftpd on the pc who wants to share its file .. start it .. then connect from the other via ftp
[06:46] <lnxkde> Ca : I can do that even without a rauter I just hook the eth cable from one PC to aniother?
[06:47] <CapNemo> lnxkde: yup you can link the two pc together but you need the crossed ethernet cable
[06:47] <CapNemo> -the +a
[06:47] <lnxkde> CapNemo:  I got one :D
[06:47] <CapNemo> then youre good
[06:48] <lnxkde> CapNemo: ok I installed the ftpd
[06:48] <lnxkde> I must run and configure something?
[06:49] <CapNemo> lnxkde: usually just launch the service
[06:49] <lnxkde> and I just do ftp://ip?
[06:50] <CapNemo> lnxkde: usually its more : ftp://username@hostname
[06:51] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Two Linux machines?
[06:51] <lnxkde> yep
[06:51] <DaSkreech> :-p
[06:51] <DaSkreech> sftp
[06:52] <DaSkreech> You have ssh access?
[06:52] <CapNemo> sftp too slow
[06:52] <CapNemo> for large amount of file
[06:52] <CapNemo> files
[06:52] <DaSkreech> :-(
[06:52] <CapNemo> ftp or rsync
[06:52] <trpr> hrm. i installed knetworkmanager / network-manager, but it tells me no network device found. am i missing a configuration step or something?
[06:52] <trpr> the man file tells me how it works. it makes it sound like it should set itself up :\
[06:53] <CapNemo> trpr: im not sure that networkmanager is working well in fact ;)
[06:54] <CapNemo> it never worked for me
[06:54] <trpr> CapNemo: hrm. what do you suggest? i can't stand kwifimanager
[06:54] <nonickname> is there a replacement for symlink here?
[06:54] <trpr> which is what i was using up till now :\
[06:54] <zeronenorez> a small question :how to add Termminal to my right click
[06:55] <nonickname> actually, nevermind
[06:59] <pierreth> good night
[07:03] <dbglt> does anyone know how I mark a track as part of a compilation in amarok?
[07:04] <zeronenorez> big boy all went to sleep :<
[07:04] <irrelevant> you can save a playlist
[07:07] <irrelevant> zeronenorez: if you use a terminal all the time, 'apt-get install yakuake' installs a Quake-like drop-down console
[07:07] <zeronenorez> irrelevant, oh so much thanks
[07:09] <trpr> heh. oh i see. according to this faq, if i want to use network manager, i can't list my network device in /etc/network/interfaces, due to debian specific modifications :\
[07:11] <zeronenorez> irrelevant,must i restart my X-windows?
[07:12] <irrelevant> no... might not show up in the menu right away... just hit Alt+F2 and type 'yakuake'
[07:12] <irrelevant> then F12 to use
[07:14] <zeronenorez> irrelevant, perfect windows,great thanks ,will it autostart when i log in?
[07:15] <spazz> anyone use youtube?
[07:15] <irrelevant> not automagically... you can either put in the autostart directory or save a session
[07:17] <spazz> ??
[07:17] <zeronenorez> irrelevant, dude, say detailly :->
[07:19] <spazz> HEY
[07:19] <spazz> anyone ALIVE?
[07:19] <spazz> HOLA
[07:19] <spazz> ...
[07:19] <irrelevant> I think if you put '.desktop' files in '~/.kde/Autostart' it will bring it up
[07:20] <spazz> youtube choppy as hell
[07:20] <spazz> flash
[07:20] <spazz> argh!!!!!!!!!
[07:20] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:20] <nonickname> okay.. i have a computer with no cd-rom or floppy drive.. but it does have a network card, and the bios has a network boot option.. any suggestions?
[07:20] <irrelevant> I'm quite lazy, so I just have KDE startup on a saved session
[07:20] <DaSkreech> I'm surprised you even got it to work
[07:20] <DaSkreech> nonickname: Debian?
[07:20] <nonickname> no kubuntu?
[07:20] <DaSkreech> spazz: Isn't Youtube falsh 8 now?
[07:21] <DaSkreech> nonickname: It should be possible. I never tried it
[07:21] <spazz> I dunno. But I have videos with sound working in WINE on firefox
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Flash
[07:21] <spazz> with windows Flash
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Ah ok
[07:21] <spazz> .. but its choppy.
[07:21] <nonickname> heh
[07:21] <spazz> Wonder what the easiest way to get it working right would be..
[07:21] <noiesmo> wine + firefox 4 windows + windows flash 9 works for metacafe.com and youtube spazz
[07:21] <nonickname> my problem is that i just now found out that the install livecd doesnt have a 'pxelinux.0' file
[07:22] <zeronenorez> irrelevant, how to make session
[07:22] <nonickname> not in a netboot folder, anyhow
[07:22] <spazz> noiesmo: eh i have all that installed. its choppy as crap though.
[07:22] <spazz> how do i fix it?
[07:23] <zeronenorez> irrelevant, i'm in gnome what can i do?
[07:24] <noiesmo> spazz, k, just tried a clip from metacafe and yeah it's choppy hmm wasnt like that
[07:25] <spazz> SOME videos seem to work pretyt smooth
[07:25] <spazz> sigh. they need to hurry up and release flash 9 for linux
[07:25] <irrelevant> oh... I figured you were using KDE... not positive about Gnome... try System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[07:25] <spazz> heard that its stable now. just they are adding some more features or something
[07:25] <spazz> wonder if theres a beta out there i can get.
[07:26] <irrelevant> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/08/coarse_detail.html
[07:26] <office_> !vnc
[07:26] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[07:26] <erov> they do.. need to release flash9 but wine/firefox is fine for if i NEED to.
[07:27] <spazz> Bah. Youtube is my ANTI-BOREDOM lol.
[07:27] <spazz> There's absolutely nothing to do on the internet anymore.
[07:27] <nonickname> lol
[07:27] <nonickname> i didn't find youtube very amusing =(
[07:27] <spazz> You just havent found the right videos.
[07:27] <erov> konqueror and youtube have worked fine
[07:28] <SpAwN> spazz, u cant watch videos on youtube?
[07:28] <erov> only go to the other for google video or something specifically using flash9
[07:28] <spazz> I am right now, its just the playback is shitty as hell. Real choppy.
[07:28] <zeronenorez> irrelevant, where you study this? I mean how to study Linux,I want to be a professional Linux User.
[07:28] <SpAwN> ahh
[07:28] <SpAwN> try install the totem-xine-firefox plugin thinggy
[07:28] <spazz> LOL zeronenorez ...... let me know what you have accomplished that.
[07:28] <Tobias41> hi all
[07:29] <spazz> SpAwN: that work for you?
[07:29] <zeronenorez> irrelevant,and i don't want to interrupe others i want to learn myself
[07:29] <trpr> zeronenorez: probably cis... being a professional computer user is a business field
[07:29] <nonickname> =(
[07:29] <SpAwN> spazz, yea they play fine for me
[07:29] <erov> here as well
[07:30] <zeronenorez> trpr:that's my poor english level problem :<
[07:30] <irrelevant> zenonenorez : I'd say poke around and explore... google when you're curious... lots of Linux sites have great tips here and there
[07:30] <spazz> couldnt find the plugin. Hmm.
[07:30] <spazz> Maybe I need to add repos.
[07:31] <zeronenorez> irrelevant, give me some u use ;>
[07:31] <irrelevant> linux.com has this CLI series... http://enterprise.linux.com/search.pl?tid=89
[07:31] <zeronenorez> spazz, I'm studying every day!
[07:32] <spazz> I dont study it. I just USE it. Usually have errors or something, so I have to figure out what does what and why its broken for the 18th time .
[07:32] <spazz> ... anyways.
[07:37] <trpr> zeronenorez: this is a nice book, http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
[07:37] <erov> :+
[07:37] <erov> k
[07:37] <zeronenorez> all, nice
[07:37] <JuNkPhreak> HI all
[07:37] <zeronenorez> I will study hard make Ubuntu eat microsoft
[07:37] <zeronenorez> trpr,more? <i'm freshman> is there any easy book for me?
[07:37] <Tobias41> yesterday I installed kubuntu, and met several problems with it. How should I set my package manager to be able to download programs like mc for example...? I downloaded the skype.deb and was not able to install, giving some errors of the required program is not in the path, altough it started the Ark program... Can anybody help me?
[07:37] <JuNkPhreak> anyone here using wlassistant for there wireless ?
[07:38] <zeronenorez> Tobias41, go wiki of ubuntu
[07:42] <Tobias41> what about mc?
[07:42] <zeronenorez> i don't know that
[07:42] <irrelevant> Tobais41: I think automatix takes care of Skype... is 'mc' midnight commander?
[07:42] <spazz> WTF! its not letting me CD anywhere!
[07:42] <JuNkPhreak> having problem on boot to get auto connected to wireless with out opening the wlassistant and getting online
[07:42] <Tobias41> yes i mean midnight commander.
[07:42] <irrelevant> spazz: are you trying to 'sudo cd'?
[07:42] <spazz> no just cd
[07:42] <spazz> Like, I am in the / folder
[07:42] <spazz> I want to go to /ect/apt/
[07:42] <spazz> So, I type in cd /ect/ and it takes me there.
[07:42] <spazz> but i try cd /apt/ and it wont let me
[07:42] <irrelevant> etc not ect
[07:42] <spazz> said no file...........err. oh. crap. heh
[07:42] <spazz> Alrite, what is the command to cd to the root folder from anywhere?
[07:42] <Tobias41> cd /
[07:42] <zeronenorez> spazz,try :sude cd apt
[07:42] <irrelevant> Tobias41: if you just want a split screen file browser, Konqueror can do that... hit Ctrl + Shift + L
[07:42] <irrelevant> or View -> Split Screen
[07:42] <spazz> damnit, its not working.
[07:42] <irrelevant> spazz: '$ cd /etc/apt'
[07:42] <spazz> It refuses.
[07:42] <spazz> says no such file
[07:42] <spazz> and i SEE IT. RIGHT. THERE.
[07:43] <spazz> it wont let me in though.
[07:43] <Tobias41> i just want to how to use those old well working small tools we are used to, and why I can not use them anymore. Why they are not part of the distrib anymore? Or how can I install them
[07:43] <D4rkly> has anyone tried building cedega from source ? i think source from cvs is free ?
[07:43] <Tobias41> I also tried aptitude, but it didn't find either
[07:44] <spazz> Hmm. Strange.
[07:44] <Tobias41> is adept the official package manager of ubuntu<
[07:44] <spazz> I closed out that terminal, opened a new one, and tried cd /etc/apt/ and it worked this time. wtf.
[07:44] <Tobias41> ?
[07:44] <irrelevant> you might have to enable some sources... try '$ apt-cache search mc'
[07:45] <irrelevant> I can see it in my repositories
[07:45] <Tobias41> how does dapper relate to sarge?
[07:48] <D4rkly> sh cvschroot -d <path to your tree> :pserver:cvs@cvs.transgaming.org:/cvsroot winex ? is <path to your tree> where i want to download cvs files to ?
[07:48] <Babble_> hi: I've just installed Firefox using Adept, but it seems to have grabbed some Gnome dependencies (my Open/Save dialogs in Firefox look like Gnome instead of KDE); is there an easy way to get Firefox to use the KDE dialogs instead?
[07:49] <LeeJunFan> hehe, while working on a win machine I guess it's safe to say there's a rootkit when netstat says the kernel itself is accessing about a dozen hosts on the internet.
[07:50] <irrelevant> Tobais41: sarge is the stable one I think... I think dapper sort of comes from etch, more up-to-date...
[07:50] <Tobias41> thank you
[07:52] <irrelevant> Babble_: firefox uses GTK, so it's dialogs will look like Gnome even if you don't have it... there's an option about using KDE styles for GTK apps in System Setting -> Appearance -> GTK styles and fonts
[07:52] <irrelevant> but it seems to only do a half-assed job
[07:52] <Babble_> ooooh, lemme look (thanks very much!)
[07:53] <Babble_> half-assed I can live with. hehe.
[07:53] <irrelevant> all I notice is that it turns the dialog backgrounds white
[07:54] <spazz> cant find totem-xine-firefox plugin
[07:54] <spazz> have all repos enabled
[07:54] <spazz> arghhhhh
[07:55] <Babble_> hum. I already have "Use my KDE theme..." enabled. Oh well.
[07:55] <irrelevant> 'totem-xine-firefox-plugin'
[07:55] <Babble_> thanks tho :)
[07:55] <spazz> oh.
[07:55] <crypt> hey spazz do you have automatix
[07:55] <spazz> ... no, i heard to avoid it like the plague
[07:55] <spazz> cuz it breaks stuff
[07:55] <D4rkly> how do i remove a dir and all files i use rmdir but it says directory not empty ?
[07:55] <spazz> i have used it before
[07:56] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: rm -r
[07:56] <D4rkly> k cool :)
[08:03] <arepie> what does this mean --> agpgart: Consider rebooting with iommu=memaper=2 to get a good aperture.
[08:07] <D4rkly> anyone want to help get cedega running from source
[08:08] <D4rkly> cvs source is free
[08:12] <Jucato> are the wiki and help pages down?
[08:13] <D4rkly> i just checkout from cvs and ran configure
[08:13] <D4rkly> them make
[08:13] <D4rkly> will this work with directx games ?
[08:13] <maltaethiron> yo yo, how do i go about playing avi files in kafeine?
[08:13] <office_> it is there any VNC programcompatible with windows vnc?
[08:14] <tkrapil> ?
[08:15] <office_> i want to connect to one computer with windows vnc
[08:16] <Jucato> maltaethiron: you need to have the "libxine-extracodecs" package installed
[08:16] <maltaethiron> ty jucato
[08:16] <spazz> youtube video playback isnt choppy
[08:16] <spazz> ... just out of sync with audio now!
[08:16] <spazz> argh.
[08:18] <maltaethiron> jucato: will that cover mpeg as well?
[08:18] <irrelevant> office_: does this work for you? http://www.tightvnc.com/
[08:19] <Jucato> maltaethiron: yep. it covers mostly everything except WMA/WMV, Real Media, and Quick Time
[08:20] <maltaethiron> ok, and those im already fine with, thanks
[08:20] <maltaethiron> wait, except quicktime
[08:20] <Jucato> maltaethiron: quick time should be covered by the w32codecs
[08:20] <maltaethiron> oh ok
[08:22] <spazz> Jucato: Hey, have any idea how I can make Flash playback work better? Video is smooth, but audio is like not sync'd with the video.
[08:22] <maltaethiron> same here spazz
[08:22] <Jucato> spazz: I actually have the same problem on a few flash vids
[08:22] <spazz> Can't seem to find an answer.
[08:22] <spazz> It's so irritating. Wonder if I can find a copy of the new Flash 9 beta.
[08:23] <spazz> Here it'
[08:23] <spazz> is stable.
[08:23] <maltaethiron> the only thing i want to work smoothly is homestar runner
[08:23] <spazz> I want youtube to work smoothly
[08:23] <spazz> ...just flash in general loll
[08:24] <maltaethiron> i wish there was flash 8 or 9 for linux
[08:24] <Jucato> ehehehe
[08:24] <Jucato> keep on wishing....
[08:24] <spazz> There is... flash 8.5 but that is considered 9. heh.
[08:25] <irrelevant> spazz: seems like some people have had some luck here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22672.html
[08:25] <spazz> ... youre crazy!
[08:25] <spazz> *slap*
[08:25] <spazz> ... argh, how do you do the .. * deal?
[08:25] <maltaethiron> heheh
[08:25] <trappist> maltaethiron: I read today that flash 9 for linux is fully functional, just needs more testing before release
[08:25] <spazz> yea, i read that on digg.com
[08:26] <maltaethiron> oh reaallly
[08:26] <maltaethiron> ahh see..i would have read that too, but i got back from vacation with no internet a little while ago
[08:26] <maltaethiron> im always on digg though
[08:26] <maltaethiron> most of the time
[08:26] <spazz> They are saying, a release shouldn't be far away.
[08:26] <maltaethiron> good
[08:27] <maltaethiron> !seen lynoure
[08:27] <ubotu> Lynoure is on IRC right now!
[08:27] <trappist> maltaethiron: yeah this was on digg
[08:27] <maltaethiron> very cool....soon the day will come where i can visit newgrounds on my lappy!
[08:28] <trappist> maltaethiron: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/08/coarse_detail.html
[08:28] <maltaethiron> thanks
[08:34] <spazz> wtf
[08:34] <maltaethiron> what wtf?
[08:35] <spazz> i dont have /etc/mozilla-firefox/
[08:35] <spazz> and i have it installed.....
[08:35] <Jucato> I can visit newgrounds on my desktop...
[08:35] <Jucato> neither do I
[08:35] <spazz> That's what it's saying to go to, to edit this file on this website.
[08:35] <Jucato> spazz: have you looked for /etc/firefox/ ?
[08:35] <spazz> FIREFOX_DSP can be set to "arts". Try changing /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc and see if that setting works.
[08:35] <spazz> that's .. a quote.
[08:36] <Jucato>  /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[08:36] <spazz> foudn it
[08:38] <B4zzA> anyone know how to configure kubuntu to use a proxy for connections (excluding apt)
[08:39] <vlt> Hello. Yestersday I burnt an Audio-CD(RW) with k3b 0.12.14 (ubuntu 6.06) and an HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H10A JL02 (/dev/hdd). Now I want to erase and reuse the disk but I get en error message: "Found Media: CD-ROM, please insert writable ...". Wtf does this mean?
[08:40] <spazz> how do i see a list of running proceesses?
[08:40] <spazz> processes?
[08:41] <trappist> spazz: ps aux
[08:41] <Jucato[Eating] > (or Ctrl+Esc)
[08:41] <spazz> hooray. GUI interface lol
[08:41] <spazz> thanks
[08:41] <Jucato[Eating] > :-D
[08:41] <trappist> B4zzA: some apps you configure directly for the proxy, like firefox.  others respect the HTTP_PROXY environment variable
[08:41] <nonickname> how do i tell which audio drivers are enabled?
[08:43] <B4zzA> oh ok
[08:43] <B4zzA> trappist
[08:43] <B4zzA> how do i set that variable?
[08:43] <spazz> DEATH. TO. FLASH ON LINUX.
[08:43] <spazz> ( kills over )
[08:43] <trappist> B4zzA: export HTTP_PROXY=http://proxy.server:port
[08:44] <vlt> Any idea how to erase a CD-RW (on kubuntu 6.06)?
[08:45] <irrelevant> vlt: K3B -> Tools -> Erase CD-RW
[08:46] <dhq> how do i configure wifi in kubuntu
[08:46] <vlt> irrelevant: Thanks. That tells me: "Found Media: CD-ROM, please insert writable disk ..."
[08:46] <vlt> irrelevant: The CD-RW I try to erase I burnt yeserday with k3b ...
[08:47] <irrelevant> vlt: hmm... you sure it's a re-writable?... got the right drive selected?
[08:47] <spazz> test
[08:47] <spazz> *tes
[08:47] <spazz> argh.
[08:47] <vlt> irrelevant: Yes. It was my kubuntu 6.06 install disk until I erased it yesterday with k3b.
[08:49] <irrelevant> vlt: you already erased it?
[08:49] <D4rkly> im using rmdir -r and it says --r invalid option ?
[08:49] <spazz> L M F A O look at this video lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTLGsEErWJY&NR
[08:49] <spazz> that wouldsuck
[08:49] <vlt> irrelevant: Yep. Yesterday it worked. Then I burnt it, now I want to burn again and erase before but it doesn't accept the media. Burning was fine (and readable) ...
[08:50] <fyyrest0rm> hi guys..quick question (i hope)..trying to get a friend hooked on kubunty (i'm kinda a noob myself)..we've both got external usb hdd's..when i plug mine in it mounts, etc etc. His tells him "only root can mount"..both using kubuntu/kde. Any suggestions?
[08:50] <irrelevant> d4rkly: try 'rm -r'
[08:51] <D4rkly> ok
[08:51] <trappist> D4rkly: rmdir means rm -r.  so -r is redundant for rmdir
[08:51] <D4rkly> ah ok :)
[08:53] <vlt> Anyone knowing how to erase my CD-RW, again?
[08:53] <trappist> vlt: try sudo cdrecord -blank=fast -dev=/dev/cdrom (or whatever your device is)
[08:54] <trappist> or is it 'blank=fast' without the -
[08:55] <fyyrest0rm> anyone? lol
[08:55] <pointwood> hi guys
[08:55] <trappist> fyyrest0rm: it should only say that if he's trying to mount it manually as a mortal user
[08:55] <unix_infidel> hey trappist  :)
[08:55] <fyyrest0rm> he's THIS close to giving up and I don't want him to do that
[08:55] <trappist> fyyrest0rm: and if he's doing that he just needs to say 'sudo' first
[08:55] <trappist> unix_infidel
[08:56] <pointwood> sitting here in a new kubuntu install - is it safe to update X?
[08:56] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: the issue is that on my system, it just mounts..period when i plug it in
[08:56] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: yes, he can sudo to mount it, but how to get it to mount on its own when plugged in like mine does though?
[08:56] <trappist> pointwood: yes
[08:56] <pointwood> thx
[08:56] <trappist> fyyrest0rm: the same device automounts on his but not yours?
[08:56] <trappist> err vice versa
[08:57] <trappist> fyyrest0rm: or different (but similar) devices
[08:57] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: depends on what you mean by "same device". I don't know the specifics of his drive (make, model etc) but both external usb hard drives
[08:58] <trappist> fyyrest0rm: have him check the last 15 lines or so of dmesg, to see if the device is being properly recognized.
[08:58] <fyyrest0rm> ok
[08:58] <vlt> trappist: cdrecord tells me: Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x05 (cannot write medium - incompatible format) Fru 0x0
[08:58] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: dont know if this makes a difference or not but he had his plugged in while installing and it added it to fstab, whereas mine is not?
[08:58] <trappist> vlt: cdrecord sounds pretty convinced that this is not a cdrw
[08:59] <trappist> fyyrest0rm: that very likely makes a difference.  remove it from fstab (shouldn't be there, unless it's always going to be plugged in)
[08:59] <vlt> trappist: I erased this CD-RW yesterday with k3b and burnt it then ... with THIS drive.
[08:59] <irrelevant> vlt: might just be an incompatible disc... poor quality maybe
[09:00] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: had him do that..waiting for him to reboot to see if it worked
[09:00] <trappist> vlt: try 'blank=all' - the cdrecord man page says some media don't support all blanking types, but that 'all' should get it
[09:00] <trappist> fyyrest0rm: don't let him reboot with the drive connected :)
[09:00] <vlt> trappist: already tried this ...
[09:00] <trappist> vlt: sorry, I'm out of ideas then
[09:00] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: correct..i told him to unplug it first
[09:01] <trappist> fyyrest0rm: you know not to unplug it while it's mounted, right?
[09:01] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: of course whether he did or not *shrug*..it took me 20 minutes to finally get it across to him that there WAS no root and that HE was superuser lol
[09:01] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: yes
[09:02] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: although I've been known to do it on occasion with usb devices...what kinda damage could be done?
[09:02] <vlt> irrelevant: I burnt and erased this CD-RW several times with Nero. The last iso I wrote was kubuntu 6.06 install. Then I erased it with k3b ... and now it's poor media quality?!?
[09:03] <irrelevant> vlt: you can only rewrite so many times
[09:03] <trappist> fyyrest0rm: write operations to usb media will report being done before they're really done, and you don't want to unplug while writing is still going on.  it won't umount until it's done, though, so once it's umounted it's safe to remove.
[09:04] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: ahh ok..but if it hasn't been written to its no biggie? These are ntfs drives so no writing to them anyway lol
[09:04] <trappist> fyyrest0rm: I like to play it safe no matter what, but theoretically it should be fine, yeah
[09:04] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: thanks for the info :)
[09:04] <trappist> np... now I'm off to bed - gl with the usb goodness
[09:05] <fyyrest0rm> trappist: thanks :)
[09:05] <vlt> irrelevant: I used this media 4 ior 5 cycles ... didn't know it was that little I can use it with linux ...
[09:06] <pointwood> trappist: so, which one of the beers do you prefer? ;)
[09:07] <Pizzak> wiki,kubuntu.org is down?
[09:07] <Jucato> Pizzak: yep
[09:07] <Pizzak> ok, thanks :)
[09:08] <irrelevant> vlt: I wouldn't blame "linux"... if you want reliability, don't use re-writables and burn as slow as you can stand... if you're going to insist on re-writables, spring for top quality
[09:10] <vlt> irrelevant: So do you know what Nero does different?
[09:12] <D4rkly> does anyone want to help me build cedega ?
[09:12] <irrelevant> vlt: not a clue... but since you're curious, the best thing to do would be to test it... try to erase and rewrite in Nero and see what happens... I do know K3B has acted up on me at times and have had luck restarting X
[09:18] <kev_> Anybody have good experiences with acpi/power management on kubuntu?   I got issues :).
[09:19] <kev_> I scrapped klaptop because it would put me into an infinite suspend/resume loop, and would eventually shut down.
[09:20] <kev_> I tried kpowersave, and it doesn't quite come up all the way.
[09:20] <kev_> Anybody know any better ways to debug acpi problems?
[09:26] <vlt> irrelevant: Mmh. The last image I wrote with Nero was Kubuntu 6.06 install ... I leave it to yout imagination why I can't test with Nero anymore ... :(
[09:26] <vlt> s/yout/your
[09:30] <irrelevant> vlt: try testing K3B with another RW
[09:30] <vlt> irrelevant: Ok. I'll try that.
[09:31] <irrelevant> I think I remember something about multisessions... http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=33914&pid=256944&st=0&#entry256944
[09:32] <irrelevant> vlt: K3B might not have the best defaults... I know I burned an MP3 CD for my car and it wouldn't work, never really mucked around with it, though
[09:32] <dee> hello.
[09:33] <irrelevant> might have been something about the CD-text... who knows... player was a POS
[09:33] <dee> did someone user kaffeine and dvb-utils ?
[09:37] <Mehercle> 'morning
[09:41] <Zooliegsm> hello all
[09:42] <Zooliegsm> i want to make flash movie/animation.....i had 3d flash animator on windows before i installed ubuntu....is there any similiar flashmaker for linux users? :)
[09:43] <aliasfred> not really
[09:43] <aliasfred> some attemps exists tho
[09:43] <aliasfred> the easiest thing is likely to run your stuff under wine
[09:43] <aliasfred> !wine
[09:43] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:44] <zeronenorez> hlds_l_1120_full.bin is that run in linux without wine?
[09:44] <zeronenorez> could anyone tell me where could i download the half-life for wine?
[09:44] <Zooliegsm> and any flash maker name that made for linux?
[09:44] <aliasfred> i dont remember :) let me look
[09:45] <irrelevant> zeronenorez: that's the dedicated server for HL2 linux
[09:45] <aliasfred> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23696 <- this is one
[09:45] <zeronenorez> oh lol
[09:45] <aliasfred> in fact thats the only one im remember, im no flash expert tho
[09:46] <Zooliegsm> i tried this already :)
[09:46] <Zooliegsm> it wont fits my needs
[09:46] <zeronenorez> aliasfred, do you know some half-life download link?
[09:46] <QMario> Admit it: do any of you guys sometimes write bad code? I know I sometimes do. :)
[09:47] <aliasfred> zeronenorez: halflife site ? i dont know this game except the name
[09:47] <irrelevant> zeronenorez: you're best bet is probably Cedega... http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=29
[09:47] <irrelevant> *your*... getting late
[09:48] <zeronenorez> my windows half-life require me add cd key but i can't write in a word when i use wine tu run
[09:49] <zeronenorez> irrelevant,  i need a free one
[09:49] <zeronenorez> do you have?
[09:52] <irrelevant> zeronenorez: they have a 14-day demo... otherwise you can follow some howto's and do it yourself in Wine...
[09:53] <zeronenorez> irrelevant, i can't :<
[09:54] <spazz> azureus is a peice of shit
[09:54] <pointwood> why?
[09:54] <spazz> I hate those stupid pop up that appear at the bottom of the screen.
[09:54] <spazz> THen, when you click HIDE.
[09:54] <aliasfred> spazz: watch the language
[09:54] <spazz> IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING.  argh
[09:55] <Jucato> and... we're back to the problem of finding the perfect bittorrent client for you... @_@
[09:55] <spazz> I think they all suck.
[09:55] <pointwood> just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's bad - use something else then
[09:55] <spazz> Great idea.
[09:55] <spazz> Youre smart.
[09:55] <irrelevant> spazz: I like Azureus just because it's full of info, but yeah, it's pretty clunky... Ktorrent just went to 2.0 recently and I think it works great
[09:56] <spazz> ... i got the newest ktorrent
[09:56] <Jucato> don't mention KTorrent to spazz... ^_^
[09:56] <spazz> all it does is crash, its EXTREMELY slow.
[09:56] <spazz> lmfao.
[09:56] <spazz> Ktorrent is the devil.
[09:56] <aliasfred> spazz is a calm constructive type :)
[09:56] <spazz> Azureus has I/O problems.
[09:56] <spazz> aliasfred: unless it involves computers. :D
[09:57] <aliasfred> :)
[09:57] <pointwood> LOL @ aliasfred
[09:57] <spazz> Seriously this stupid box won't go away. It refuses.
[09:57] <Jucato> spazz: I'm not sure if the problem with KTorrent is the installation and/or some connection problems on your side
[09:57] <irrelevant> haven't used it enough to crash it, but it's blazing fast... have you forwarded the ports in your router?
[09:57] <spazz> Well, I've installed it on Ubuntu, Kubuntu, on 2 diff laptops, and seperate fresh installs.
[09:57] <Jucato> coz KTorrent has only crashed a few times on me (purely my error) and it's fast...
[09:58] <spazz> I think it's just that the program is from Hell. lol.
[09:58] <spazz> I don't understand why it won't work for me...
[09:58] <redondo81> Hi to everyoneI have a problem with playing a dvd , when I lunch kaffein it says me an error : - No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:/)
[09:58] <irrelevant> it comes with a UPnP plugin, but it doesn't seem to do anything... if you open both the ports it specifies, it should be better
[09:58] <spazz> I'm not even behind a router.
[09:58] <Jucato> heck I don't understand why it won't work for you either...
[09:58] <redondo81> The source can't be read
[09:58] <redondo81> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (/dev/hdc)
[09:58] <spazz> How do I make this Warning box go away?
[09:58] <redondo81> do you know why?
[09:59] <irrelevant> hmm... could just be the torrents, then... not enough people... some of them might require encryption... could try accepting more max connections
[09:59] <spazz> It's not that ... cuz I had torrent (the SAME ones) working in utorrent under WINE
[09:59] <pointwood> I think spazz is a nice pebkac example :p
[09:59] <spazz> But now WINE decides to explode and kill the internet. So. It doesnt work now.
[09:59] <irrelevant> ;)
[10:00] <spazz> ... wuzza pebkac? inside joke? what did i miss...
[10:00] <redondo81> Anyone can help me to play a dvd?
[10:00] <spazz> Can't find bittornado. I installed it. But. No way to.. open it.
[10:01] <irrelevant> try Alt+F2... then type the command name
[10:01] <redondo81> no one can help me
[10:02] <spazz> wont work
[10:02] <irrelevant> redondo81: have you installed everything you need?
[10:02] <spazz> bittornado is the command isnt it?
[10:02] <redondo81> I don't know what I need
[10:02] <redondo81> I have kaffeine
[10:02] <redondo81> and I have installed codec to play mpeg,avi
[10:03] <redondo81> wmv
[10:03] <redondo81> but I think not dvd
[10:03] <oleg> I just moved to Kubuntu from gentoo due to the lack of free time. It seems that may applications are missing. Oper for example, flash (I used netscape-flash). Can anyone suggest repositories with more software?
[10:03] <Jucato> it might be an encrypted DVD?
[10:03] <irrelevant> probably need libdvdcss
[10:04] <spazz> azureus wont even OPEN! wtf...
[10:04] <Jucato> oleg: the "flashplugin-nonfree" is found in the "multiverse" component of Ubuntu's repositories
[10:04] <spazz> it opened a min ago. now it ... wont even bother trying.
[10:05] <Jucato> you just have to enable multiverse. Add "multiverse" to this line: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" where xx = us. or uk. or au., etc
[10:06] <redondo81> I try to install libdvdcss but it cannot find it
[10:06] <Healot> there isn't any, official
[10:06] <Healot> officially
[10:06] <Healot> goto VLC's site or grep that from debian repos
[10:07] <oleg> I have this: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> is there a way i can reconfigure my sound system
[10:07] <Jucato> oleg: no not that
[10:08] <oleg> and sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree cant find flashplugin-nonfree
[10:08] <redondo81> It's a problem of only a dvd (Alexander) other dvds are visible
[10:08] <Healot> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base
[10:08] <oleg> ok
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Healot, thanks i'll try it
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Healot, i can't try it now. i'm doing an apt-get update
[10:08] <Healot> try it when available
[10:09] <spazz> might have found my bittorrent solution lol
[10:09] <redondo81> No one can tell me how to play a dvd film (Alexander) that should be encrypted?
[10:09] <irrelevant> redondo81: you'll have to get it from a seperate repository... there's some legal issues...
[10:10] <irrelevant> trying to find it... ubuntu wiki is down...
[10:10] <irrelevant> I know Automatix will install it for you
[10:10] <Jucato> oleg: you just have to enable multiverse. Add "multiverse" to this line: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" where xx = us. or uk. or au., etc
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> just backup your sources.list
[10:10] <Jucato> oleg: or in your case "ca."
[10:10] <redondo81> Automatix
[10:10] <redondo81> ?
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> !automatix
[10:10] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> no link?
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> thats kinda cheap
[10:11] <Jucato> Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:11] <spazz> doesnt .. that break stuff?
[10:11] <aliasfre1> hmm do i smell some kind of competition betweenthe two :)
[10:12] <spazz> that automatix script..
[10:12] <_lupine> potentially it does ;)
[10:12] <irrelevant> redondo81: http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_Automatix
[10:12] <Jucato> depends really
[10:12] <Jucato> it's a case to case basis...
[10:12] <irrelevant> scroll down a bit to Kubuntu 6.06
[10:12] <_lupine> actually, I'd recommend learnign how to DIY, but that's just me
[10:12] <aliasfre1> automatix web site is not exactly low profile, and ubotu warn people from using automatix
[10:12] <Jucato> except that the wiki and help pages are down now, so DIY wouldn't really help...
[10:12] <aliasfre1> Jucato: you tried them ?
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> spazz, it didn't break shit of mine, but i reconfigured my sources.list
[10:13] <oleg> Jucato: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse    already has multiverse
[10:13] <Jucato> aliasfre1: ubotu also warns people from EasyUbuntu
[10:13] <aliasfre1> !easyubuntu
[10:13] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:13] <oleg> Jucato: that should work, right?
[10:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> they cna tell yo uin automatix
[10:13] <Jucato> oleg: I already said "not that". that's "dapper-updates" my line only says "dapper"
[10:13] <aliasfre1> Jucato: ah ok, then i was bad mounth without reason :)
[10:13] <_lupine> ah, but they give a link for easyubuntu ;)
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> downloading 250+ packages for an edgy update sucks
[10:13] <Jucato> oleg: those are 2 different repositories
[10:14] <oleg> Jucato: sorry
[10:14] <Jucato> _lupine: yep. because automatix only got their own web page recently
[10:14] <Jucato> so there was no link to post at all for Automatix
[10:14] <_lupine> don't mind me :p
[10:15] <irrelevant> http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/
[10:15] <pointwood> so, is everyone using easyubuntu?
[10:16] <spazz> whast that?
[10:16] <Healot> no
[10:16] <Jucato> no
[10:16] <spazz> whats that * even.....
[10:16] <Jucato> I use neither, but I used Automatix once in Breezy
[10:16] <pointwood> k
[10:16] <pointwood> just wondering what the best way is to get mp3, flash, etc. installed
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> pointwood, i used automatix in breezy and dapper
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i just backup my /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:17] <Jucato> pointwood: depends on your preferences. but sometimes, the best way is not the easiest
[10:17] <Healot> enable all sections of your repos?
[10:17] <Jucato> Automatix and EasyUbuntu are definitely the easiest
[10:17] <oleg> Jucato: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse    . Is this correct?
[10:17] <Healot> update, and have a good Internet connection?
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> for real, sometimes DIY is the way to go
[10:17] <spazz> Eh.. you need w32codecs and... if you want flash, what worked for me is the xine-firefox-plugin ... forgot what it was called
[10:17] <spazz> just installed it.
[10:17] <Jucato> oleg: yes. that one.
[10:17] <Healot> oleg: repeat that for the other repos too..
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i installed vlc on my own, i didnt use a script
[10:18] <oleg> strange, I have that already, and no opera, no flash
[10:18] <arepie> what does this mean --> agpgart: Consider rebooting with iommu=memaper=2 to get a good aperture.
[10:18] <spazz> Jucato : HEY ... think I found a bittorent client that doesn't suck. lol. Going to download some files to test it.
[10:18] <Jucato> oleg: you have to install "flashplugin-nonfree" for that
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> spazz, i use Ktorrent
[10:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> just quicky - if you want to go into EU/AX discusion, please do it in -offtopic ;)
[10:18] <Healot> bittorrent itself sucks
[10:18] <spazz> death to ktorrent!!!!
[10:18] <_lupine> arepie: it's telling you to add "iommu=memaper=2" to your kernel bootline
[10:18] <pointwood> Admiral_Chicago: I want something that works properly, I don't want to fsck up my new kubuntu install :)
[10:18] <Jucato> oleg: opera can be installed using a different repository
[10:18] <_lupine> you don't "need" to
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> pointwood, it works
[10:19] <spazz> Ktorrent is the devil, least on this laptop.
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> just be cautious and you'll be fine
[10:19] <_lupine> but you could get better performance if you do
[10:19] <arepie> _lupine: but i'ev allready added it to the kernel bootline
[10:19] <Healot> i prefer the original bittorrent client
[10:19] <arepie> still error
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> spazz, worked fine on my desktop....to each his own
[10:19] <pointwood> Admiral_Chicago: what should I be cautious about? :)
[10:19] <Jucato> different strokes for different brushes....
[10:19] <oleg> I used this config file with ca prefix (canada)http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:19] <arepie> _lupine: im trying to install ATI driver on my 6.06.1 64bit
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> pointwood, your sources.list messing up
[10:19] <spazz> yes, to each his own. except that it plain out hasnt worked for me on 2 diff laptops, several diff fresh installs ect..
[10:19] <spazz> its just a buggy as crap program in my experience.
[10:20] <Jucato> oleg: you did "update" first before you started looking for flash, right?
[10:21] <pointwood> Admiral_Chicago: that is backed up :)
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> like i said, it worked for me
[10:21] <oleg> sudo apt-get update
[10:21] <spazz> that is cool.
[10:21] <arepie> hello, who could help me with installing ATI driver?
[10:21] <spazz> This tribler program won't open now. Fatal error.
[10:21] <oleg> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree -- no result
[10:21] <spazz> wtf @ linux and freakin errors all the time..
[10:21] <spazz> argh.
[10:21] <Jucato> hmm
[10:21] <oleg> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[10:22] <spazz> I don't know what I could be doing wrong ... fresh copy of kubuntu. Latest version. Only installed like 3 programs so far.
[10:22] <spazz> besides codecs. argh. so irritating.
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> spazz, hmm thats odd
[10:22] <spazz> i know..
[10:22] <Jucato> oleg: hmm...
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i rarely get errors doing installs
[10:22] <spazz> upsetting really, cuz i really just want windows on here, but the installer refuses to work.
[10:22] <lupine_85> it gives you errors so it doesn't have to crash ;)
[10:22] <spazz> I think this thing just has some serious hardware issues.
[10:23] <Healot> oleg: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and i'll tell you what went wrong
[10:23] <spazz> it gives me errors so it doesnt have to work lol
[10:23] <Jucato> spazz: I might be saying something heretic here, but, have you tried some other distro?
[10:23] <oleg> Healot: pastebin? how do I do that?
[10:23] <Jucato> !pastebin
[10:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:23] <spazz> yea... but not in a while.
[10:24] <spazz> last few distros ive tried are ubuntu, kubuntu ... knoppix (which .. not good for hdd install) ...
[10:24] <spazz> eh. had suse . but it had probs too
[10:24] <Jucato> spazz: how about the latest MEPIS, it's based on Ubuntu
[10:24] <spazz> I'd probably try Suse again .. if I had to try another distroy again
[10:24] <oleg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21764
[10:24] <spazz> MEPIS? hmm. Heard of that. ARGH this cat wont leave me alone omg.
[10:25] <spazz> bout to go outside....... lol
[10:25] <arepie> im on amd64 processor, which could be the best, stable 32bit kubuntu, or troublesome 64bit kubuntu?
[10:25] <Jucato> lol!! wanna play with that Kat
[10:25] <Healot> 64-bit isn't troublesome
[10:25] <spazz> lol it wont stop licking my arm
[10:25] <Healot> slow on development, not troublesome
[10:25] <spazz> its SOOO annoying. lol
[10:25] <Jucato> lol
[10:25] <oleg> Jucato, Healot:  By the way, I run 64 bit
[10:26] <lupine_85> urgh, suse ;)
[10:27] <lupine_85> TBH, though, unless you *need* 64bit, you're probably best with 32
[10:27] <lupine_85> (it's what I'm doing)
[10:27] <arepie> oleg: you could read here on install flash on 64bit --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:27] <arepie> opss
[10:27] <Jucato> arepie: the wiki and help pages are down...
[10:27] <spazz> I am watching the video about mepis .
[10:27] <arepie> owhh.. i see
[10:27] <spazz> ...aaaaaaaaaand no sound. that is nice.
[10:29] <spazz> there we go.
[10:29] <spazz> Anyone else have that bug ... where u have to open up 2 movie players at once just to get a video to work?
[10:31] <spazz> what do u know about mepis
[10:33] <oleg> arepie: link seems to be broken
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> oleg, the server is down
[10:34] <arepie> oleg: and the page should be --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava just wait the server to up again..
[10:36] <oleg> So, I cant install flash or opera because I use 64 bit arch?
[10:37] <kinema> welcome to the wonderful world of proprietary software
[10:38] <lupine_85> you can in a 32-bit chroot
[10:38] <lupine_85> but it's an ugly way to do it
[10:40] <aliasfre1> does flash work as native 64 bit on window ?
[10:40] <oleg> In Gentoo linux this was done transparently :(    I man chrooting or whaever weas nessesary
[10:50] <Shan_> i get this error message "cannot execute binary file
[10:50] <Shan_> " when i try to run Unreal Tournament
[10:50] <spazz> Do you have WINE?
[10:50] <spazz> I think I am the only one still awake in here, btw..lol.
[10:51] <spazz> I dun even know if I can help you out that wel.l
[10:51] <Shan_> lol
[10:51] <Shan_> i have installed UT before on kubuntu
[10:51] <spazz> But, do you have WINE installed?
[10:51] <Shan_> and ran it w/o WINE
[10:51] <spazz> oh. linux version.
[10:51] <Shan_> yeah
[10:51] <Shan_> got the linux installer
[10:51] <spazz> WINE = unstable DEATH lol.
[10:52] <Shan_> uses the same cds but installs on linux
[10:52] <Shan_> lol
[10:52] <spazz> ... yea. i need some games on here. not many good games for linux that run worth a crap on this laptop.
[10:52] <Shan_> well..from what I read on the net, when it gives that error it means that the shell doesnt understand what to do with the file
[10:52] <Shan_> I got UT to run qute well
[10:52] <spazz> hmm. strange.
[10:52] <Shan_> on my last install
[10:53] <spazz> Yea, I really just wanted windows on here. But the installtion cds refuse to work
[10:53] <spazz> they all worked before.. but i think damn hdd is crashign on this.
[10:53] <Shan_> lol
[10:53] <spazz> Because I have read/write problems all the time, and windows installer was complaining about ... not being able to copy files to a freshly formatted hdd. WTF.
[10:54] <spazz> ........... so yea. it basically sucks, cuz its a bitch to get things working under linux usually..
[10:55] <Shan_> yeah
[10:55] <Shan_> specially since you've done it once
[10:55] <spazz> eh?
[10:55] <Shan_> its all the more irritating
[10:55] <spazz> I've been messing with linux off and on for the past few years.
[10:55] <Shan_> never came accross this error
[10:56] <spazz> Seems like it's just now starting to become less bitchy.
[10:56] <spazz> ... but hates my laptop stlil
[10:56] <spazz> argh
[10:56] <zblach> spazz: what brand>
[10:56] <printcard> ello.............
[10:56] <printcard> hello...
[10:56] <spazz> sony vaio.
[10:56] <spazz> 5 years old now i think lol
[10:56] <spazz> It's .. the HDD more than anything. I think it's about ready to die.
[10:57] <Shan_> hehe
[10:57] <spazz> Because it's gotten a bit slower, takes forever to boot up usually ........ then... i dunno. The windows installers wouldnt work, and they worked before cuz ive reinstalled windows about 30 times on this thing.
[10:57] <spazz> now .. it just decides it wont work anymore (factory restore cds) ... and even some burned xp pro and win 2k cds.
[10:57] <spazz> ** pulls out hair **
[10:58] <zblach> laptop support is a bit strange, i've found
[10:58] <spazz> yea.
[10:59] <spazz> I just want a computer to be able to display all media correctly... and not die with random errors becuz you try installing something.
[10:59] <spazz> And it blows up the universe.
[10:59] <zblach> for instance, i had almost no trouble installing dapper onto my laptop, and minimal tweaking to get everything working
[10:59] <giovanni_> hi there
[10:59] <zblach> die w/ random errors?
[11:00] <spazz> eh.yea.
[11:00] <zblach> how do you mean? what sort?
[11:00] <spazz> Well, Ktorrent refuses to work, always crashes, even the newest version.
[11:01] <spazz> and azureus is a pos on this computer, has a warning box that pops up on the bottom of the screen
[11:01] <spazz> with a HIDE button. Well, that button does NOT work
[11:01] <spazz> ... basically, bittorrent clients are the devil on linux, and i just got this new one called tribler ..which is a version of ABC client..
[11:01] <evert> Hello kan i install kubuntu on a sata disk ?
[11:01] <spazz> ...and eh. oh, i tried getting wacom tablet to work, followed this guide, did what it said... worked for a second then just STOPPED.
[11:02] <giovanni_> evert. yes
[11:02] <evert> Ok , i hope so
[11:02] <spazz> ... sigh. just.. bunch of little things like that.
[11:02] <evert> My windows will disapear very soon :O
[11:02] <adz21c> evert: i should hope so thats what i am running now :-)
[11:02] <evert> ok
[11:02] <giovanni_> I too
[11:03] <evert> hopefully i'm able to switch completely to linux after several months of dual booting etc
[11:03] <spazz> evert: why?
[11:03] <evert> why wat ?
[11:03] <spazz> why are you switching over to linux completely?
[11:04] <evert> several reasons ... I don't see reasons to use windows (the only one is gaming , but i'm quiting gaming ...)
[11:04] <evert> And i just wants to learn more :)
[11:05] <spazz> oh
[11:05] <spazz> ... yea, im becoming the opposite of you now, lol.
[11:05] <spazz> i like to tinker with linux still
[11:05] <giovanni_> gaming is my last reason to keep windows
[11:05] <evert> In an hour i'm going to switch my 2 80Gb IDE hard disks (dual booting) for 1 300Gb sata disk
[11:05] <evert> i can do that for free :)
[11:05] <spazz> But ... I've gotten to the point where I just want the thing to work..and be able to play whatever game/media I want without errors or problems.
[11:05] <evert> that isn't a problem in ubuntu
[11:06] <evert> just install the codecs (with the wiki) and it's all working
[11:06] <spazz> ... so, that means i need to buy a mac eventually lol
[11:06] <evert> or use something like 'easybuntu'
[11:06] <spazz> I want my Wacom Tablet to work.
[11:06] <spazz> and it's being difficuilt.
[11:07] <evert> Ok , but you found 'help' on the internet for getting it working ? So it's possible :)
[11:07] <evert> and it's not linux fault , it's wacom's
[11:07] <spazz> actually not really
[11:07] <spazz> i just found a bunch of other people like me that are pissed off cuz it wont work heh
[11:07] <evert> I'm going to install kubuntu on that disk
[11:08] <evert> cya
[11:08] <spazz> good luck
[11:08] <evert> thanks
[11:08] <evert> i hope i can live without windows :)
[11:08] <evert> new start for a new school year :D
[11:08] <spazz> lol
[11:08] <giovanni_> please.I need help with wireless!
[11:08] <spazz> i want windows back lol
[11:08] <spazz> so i can play some games
[11:08] <spazz> that dont suck
[11:09] <giovanni_> the iwlist says "No scan result" but the wireless router in on
[11:09] <spazz> Well.
[11:09] <spazz> I have came to the conclusion, that bittorent WILL NOT WORK on this computer.
[11:10] <spazz> p o s
[11:10] <spazz> how can every client not work ..
[11:11] <aliasfre1> because it is your conclusion ? :)
[11:11] <spazz> ... maybe this laptop just sucks
[11:11] <spazz> maybe THATS it.
[11:11] <spazz> hmm
[11:11] <spazz> found a new client, called transmission
[11:12] <spazz> goign to try that see if it works
[11:13] <giovanni_> the iwlist says "No scan result" but the wireless router in on, please help
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !wireless
[11:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> tha site is down ATM
[11:15] <spazz> There is definately something wrong with the networking on this pos. Because none of these bittorrent clients work.
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> spazz, might be the packet signatures
[11:15] <spazz> What does that mean?
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> i dont know what that means actually
[11:16] <spazz> oh. lol well do u know how to fix it?
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> but i was told the school blocks the packet signatures
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> so we can't use bit torrent
[11:16] <spazz> oh.
[11:16] <aliasfre1> spazz: you use broken hardware. no os will ever run on it
[11:16] <spazz> ..well this is home connectgion
[11:16] <spazz> aliasfre1: ... umm. wtf..
[11:16] <atidem> hi
[11:16] <aliasfre1> spazz: no need to blame software for not running on broken hardware
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> aliasfre1, wtf, thats not the problem
[11:16] <spazz> I blame you.
[11:17] <aliasfre1> spazz: fix the hardware and retry
[11:17] <spazz> yea, buy me a new laptop
[11:17] <zblach> my main issue is idling with 22% cpu use
[11:17] <zblach> actually, there is one thing bothering me
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> aliasfre1, the hardware isn't the problem
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> atidem, hey
[11:17] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: his box was installing a window without issue and now it doesnt anymore. moreover its hard disk is slowing down noticably
[11:17] <spazz> .. im not convinced its the hardware either.
[11:17] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: how can you explain those fact without broken hardware ?
[11:18] <Admiral_Chicago> aliasfre1, but if he can get online without a problem
[11:18] <spazz> Beacause it chooses when it wonts to work.
[11:18] <spazz> its working fine now
[11:18] <spazz> no noises, but ... it has been acting odd
[11:18] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: this doesnt mean it is not broken hardware
[11:18] <spazz> but i dont know wtf the deal is.
[11:18] <Admiral_Chicago> doesn't mean the HARDWARE will black a PROGRAM from running
[11:19] <spazz> omfg, how can i check if my hdd is bad?
[11:19] <spazz> then we will know for sure.
[11:19] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: well how do you run a software on a hardware which is broken ?
[11:19] <spazz> Explain why the windows instalelr wouldnt write certain files
[11:19] <spazz> to a formatted disk..
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> spazz, you could do an fdsk
[11:19] <spazz> i did.
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> you cant
[11:19] <spazz> i did that several times actually
[11:19] <spazz> cant what?
[11:19] <zblach> smartd
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> you can't run a program on broken hardware
[11:20] <spazz> oh
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> but you can't also run some programs and not others on broken hardware
[11:20] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: this is why spazz can no more install window on its box, and linux wont fix the hardware either :)
[11:20] <spazz> Maybe windows is just a peice of crap too.
[11:20] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: well some stuff may trigger the bug and not other
[11:20] <spazz> aliasfre1:  ... dont think u know what youre talking about really lol
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> i have yet a HDD that says "well  I wont let bittorrent work, but firufox wont_
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> its not a bug,
[11:21] <spazz> Everything else works fine.
[11:21] <spazz> Bittorrent just refuses.
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> its not like a screen flicker is X
[11:21] <aliasfre1> spazz: the argument is simple. before you could install window and now you can no more.. this is a direct proof that the hardware got broken
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> spazz, firewall?
[11:22] <spazz> no. no router either.
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> aliasfre1, the hardware shouldn't work by that logic
[11:22] <aliasfre1> spazz: moreover  you said your disk was slowing down with time, clearly not a sign of good heath
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> its a laptop
[11:22] <spazz> well actually
[11:22] <spazz> forget what i said
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> do you know how integrated a laptop is?
[11:23] <spazz> because
[11:23] <spazz> its not the damn hdd
[11:23] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: you mean that if one piece of the laptop is broken, it wont work at all ?
[11:23] <spazz> the windows installer wont copy certain files
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[11:23] <spazz> but otherwise copied the rest... why just those few?
[11:23] <danl> what package would contain the source files to the utilities in /bin ?
[11:23] <spazz> ok, then the other installer.. something about virtual memory , couldnt actually SEE wtf the problem was because the stupdi thing bluescrreened
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> because the HDD rejected them, it decided "i'm broken, I don't want to copy these files"
[11:24] <spazz> and then, ive had to reinstall ubuntu/kubuntu a few times cuz i broke the install
[11:24] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: ok lets assume that. how do you explain the disk slow down and the window which refuse to install now and worked before ?
[11:24] <spazz> ........
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Windows = Windows sucks
[11:24] <spazz> yea windows sucks but it doesnt suck as much as this does.
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Disk slow down? wear and tear
[11:24] <spazz> least flash works in windows
[11:24] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: ok but do you have an explaination ?
[11:25] <zblach> linux doesn't wear and tear. flash mx works in linux, and windows has its uses
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone help me out hear+
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> zblach, drives do. hardware does
[11:25] <spazz> I am talking about flash player.
[11:25] <zblach> right. that's not 'linux's fault. that's general hardware degradation
[11:25] <spazz> video/audio sync
[11:25] <spazz> lack thereof
[11:25] <spazz> prettty common problem
[11:25] <aliasfre1> spazz: there are some hardware testing stuff
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> spazz, flash works in windows because adobe is stupid and wont release a linux version
[11:26] <zblach> spazz, from personal experience, i can tell you than anything worth anything has a non-flash equivalent
[11:26] <spazz> and ... then no flash 9 yet
[11:26] <aliasfre1> !memtest86
[11:26] <spazz> ...youtube.com lol
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> zblach, i never said it was linux's fault
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about memtest86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <aliasfre1> !memtest
[11:26] <zblach> not just adobe, but macromedia before it wasn't very supportive
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about memtest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not blaming OSs for Hardware problem....or vice versa
[11:26] <zblach> but they're getting better
[11:27] <zblach> !klaptop
[11:27] <spazz> How can I test to see if my hdd is bad?
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klaptop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <spazz> like... it just gets bad sectors ect ..before it implodes, and kills yoru family.
[11:27] <spazz> utorrent .. best bittorent client ive used
[11:27] <zblach> does anyone know about the laptop performance profiles?
[11:28] <spazz> worked* even better under linux thru wine
[11:28] <spazz> but now it wont work on this install
[11:28] <spazz> cuz wine is being gay
[11:28] <aliasfre1> spazz: watch the language please
[11:28] <spazz> what language? i think it was english.
[11:28] <zblach> spazz: profanity
[11:29] <aliasfre1> spazz: when you boot the install/liv cd do you have a memtest option ?
[11:29] <spazz> wtf .. what profanity heh
[11:29] <spazz> yea memtest
[11:29] <spazz> seen it on the install cd
[11:29] <aliasfre1> spazz: ok run it, it will test the ram
[11:29] <spazz> why do i need to test ram ?
[11:29] <spazz> my hdd is the problem (i think..what im trying to find out)
[11:30] <aliasfre1> well to run it will tell you if the ram is ok or not
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> no, test the OS, it'll tell you if you HDD is messed up
[11:30] <spazz> ...
[11:30] <spazz> ok. so what should i do?
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i was being sarcastic
[11:31] <spazz> ........ going to try finding those system restore cds again heh
[11:31] <danl> am i out of luck if i want the source for those files?
[11:31] <aliasfre1> danl: which files ?
[11:32] <danl> specifically cat
[11:33] <aliasfre1> danl: you want the source of cat ?
[11:33] <aliasfre1> hmm this one is likely burried in some gnu package
[11:34] <danl> yes... ok... let go look for that oe
[11:34] <danl> *one
[11:34] <aliasfre1> spazz: then you play with 'badblocks' instruction it searches a device for bad blocks
[11:35] <aliasfre1> danl: if you want just 'a' cat and not specifically the one of kubuntu, you can get it from the gnu site
[11:35] <danl> well im trying to fix a problem on another machine i have
[11:35] <aliasfre1> danl: in fact i think the procedure could be, 1. find out the package containing /bin/cat with dpkg 2. use apt-get to get the soruce version of this package
[11:36] <danl> debians cat is all nice and friendly and stops: cat blah >> blah ... however freebsd doesn't
[11:36] <danl> i was going to compare the code, and see if I can frankenstein it
[11:36] <aliasfre1> hmm how cat can be nice and friendly ?
[11:37] <lupine_85> purrs when you stroke it?
[11:37] <aliasfre1> :)
[11:38] <lupine_85> cat is in package "coreutils"
[11:40] <danl> yea, i figured that out.... looking for the src for it now
[11:44] <alex_> olaa
[11:45] <er_alex> olaaa
[11:45] <spazz> crap
[11:45] <spazz> i cant remember how many restore cds i had
[11:45] <CVirus> crapola
[11:45] <er_alex> spain?
[11:45] <spazz> i only have 2. but i think i had 3.
[11:45] <spazz> cant remember.
[11:47] <aliasfre1> !es
[11:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:47] <zblach_> bit of strangeness. my keyboard refuses to respond after logging in while using the 686 kernel. what'd I bork?
[11:47] <aliasfre1> er_alex: if you fell more confortable in spanish
[11:48] <alex___> olaa
[11:48] <aliasfre1> !es
[11:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:48] <aliasfre1> alex___: if you fell more confortable in spanish
[11:51] <aliasfre1> once again ? :)
[11:51] <zblach_> anyone know anything about klaptop performance profiles?
[11:51] <aliasfre1> i dont :)
[11:51] <aliasfre1> i dont even know what is 'klaptop' :)
[11:52] <zblach_> an honest answer! that's what i'm here for. :)
[11:52] <zblach_> none of this 'windows doesn't acknowledge non-proprietary software functionality'
[11:52] <zblach_> nonsense i get from their tech support
[11:59] <kinema> zblach_: have you check in #kde?
[11:59] <zblach_> kinema: i have not
[12:00] <kinema> Saturday night is a bit slow on IRC but #kde is worth a try.
[12:00] <kinema> Fortunatly Saturday night isn't as slow as Friday night.  :)
[12:00] <zblach_> sunday morning any good? it's no rush
[12:01] <kinema> I just wish my housemate and his girlfriend would quit screwing....
[12:02] <zblach_> hook up a video cam, sell movies, donate profits to KDE. that way, you help everyone
[12:02] <kinema> Interesting idea.  I'll have to look into cameras.
[12:03] <zblach_> bit of a bootstrapping issues. built in video cams are still buggy
[12:03] <kinema> One with IR sensitivity of course.
[12:03] <kinema> I was thinking of a network cam like an Axis camera.
[12:04] <pointwood> I just upgraded to kde 3.5.4. do anyone know why kopete and ksysguard is being kept back?
[12:04] <pointwood> this is on a new kubuntu dapper install
[12:05] <kinema> pointwood: have you tried "apt-get install kopete" and then "apt-get install ksysguard"?
[12:05] <pointwood> kinema: in adept, I tried requesting the update and then it says "break (upgrade)"
[12:05] <kinema> sometimes apt can't resolve dependancies
[12:06] <pointwood> ahhh
[12:07] <pointwood> 27. aug. 2006 11.27  Golf
[12:07] <pointwood> Golfspilleren Thomas Bjrn fortsatte de gode takter fra anden runde, da han natten til sndag igen gik en runde i 67 slag, 3 under banens par.
[12:07] <pointwood> Med fem birdies og to bogeys p tredje runde af den strkt besatte World Golf Championship-turnering sikrede Thomas Bjrn sig en delt 10. plads fr sidste runde p Firestone-banen i Ohio.
[12:07] <pointwood> I den samlede stilling er turneringens eneste dansker 4 slag under par, 5 slag efter den frende amerikaner Stewart Cink. Efter tredje runde overtog han frstepladsen fra landsmanden Tiger Woods, der dog kun er et enkelt slag efter.
[12:07] <pointwood> argh
[12:07] <pointwood> sorry
[12:07] <kinema> np
[12:07] <pointwood> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:07] <pointwood>   kopete: Depends: libjasper-runtime but it is not installable
[12:07] <pointwood> E: Broken packages
[12:07] <ninHer> hi all
[12:07] <kinema> are you running dapper?
[12:07] <pointwood> yes
[12:07] <pointwood> just installed kubuntu dapper 6.06.1
[12:08] <kinema> apt-get install libjasper-runtime
[12:08] <pointwood> added the kde 3.5.4 repo and did a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:09] <pointwood> maybe I need the multiverse repo...
[12:09] <kinema> try adding it
[12:10] <pointwood> hrm...what is universe and multiverse?
[12:11] <kinema> they are package repositories that are not officially supported by Canonical.
[12:11] <kinema> often times they are packages from the Debian repositories.
[12:11] <kinema> They are community supported.
[12:12] <pointwood> yeah, just wondering what they contains
[12:12] <kinema> piles and piles of software
[12:12] <pointwood> I know
[12:13] <DeeTahPanLtah> 811 vs 235... niiiice :)
[12:13] <kinema> ?
[12:13] <DeeTahPanLtah> anyone knows why in my repo's there isn't any gset-compiz even if i modified sources.list?
[12:14] <gan|y|med> hello
[12:14] <DeeTahPanLtah> hiya
[12:15] <pointwood> oh well, universe and multiverse added :)
[12:16] <pointwood> and fetches coffee :)
[12:16] <gan|y|med> can anybody please tell me why kubuntu brings ksynaptics, which needs the synaptics driver 0.14.4, but installs version 0.14.3? (there is 0.14.4-1 available for xfree86)
[12:21] <dhq> how do i upgrade k3b
[12:22] <w1w1t0m1> hello, how can I add language to kde? There is a button Add language but only 2 items in it ...is there way to add another language? thanks
[12:23] <gan|y|med> can anybody please tell me why kubuntu brings ksynaptics, which needs the synaptics driver 0.14.4, but installs version 0.14.3? (there is 0.14.4-1 available for xfree86)
[12:24] <pointwood> kinema: enabling universe and multiverse seems to do the trick :)
[12:24] <kinema> congrats
[12:24] <pointwood> :)
[12:25] <pointwood> now I just need to wait for it to download...
[12:25] <pointwood> stupid slow wimax connection :(
[12:25] <kinema> you're on a wimax network?
[12:25] <pointwood> yup
[12:25] <kinema> hmmm...
[12:25] <pointwood> <-- denmark
[12:26] <pointwood> clearwire
[12:26] <pointwood> launched in the major cities in dk
[12:26] <kinema> I wasn't aware that there were any draft standard networks depolyed
[12:26] <pointwood> it is only a temporary solution for me
[12:27] <pointwood> I should (finally, after having waited for many months!) soon have a fiber connection instead :)
[12:27] <kinema> very nice.
[12:27] <pointwood> 10/10Mbit :)
[12:28] <kinema> I find it staggering how far we lag behind here in the US.
[12:28] <pointwood> could get 25/25 as well, but I think I'll be able to live with 10/10 for now :p
[12:28] <gan|y|med> is there any updated (>= 0.14.1) package of the synaptics driver for dapper?
[12:28] <pointwood> gan|y|med: sorry, don't know :(
[12:29] <kinema> I'm also amazed at the stupidity of our "leaders"
[12:29] <kinema> no clue.
[12:29] <pointwood> you're not alone...
[12:29] <pointwood> we got clueless leaders here as well
[12:30] <kinema> but do yours go arround starting war after war?
[12:30] <pointwood> nope, but we are also a little country with <6 mill. people, so starting a war would be quite stupid :)
[12:30] <kinema> good point.
[12:31] <dhq> hey all .,how do i upgrade k3b
[12:31] <kinema> apt-get upgrade
[12:31] <pointwood> we did manage to get much of the muslim world very agry at us recently though :p
[12:31] <kinema> forgot about that little incident
[12:31] <zblach_> that was fun. i remember writing an essay on that
[12:32] <zblach_> took quite a bit of heat from that
[12:33] <zblach_> printed up the offending photo, and handed it out to people, just to show what the big deal was
[12:33] <gan|y|med> ok, is there a downgrade for ksynaptics? so that i can use 0.14.3 of the synaptics driver...?
[12:34] <pointwood> zblach_: hehe, nice
[12:34] <pointwood> many people, including bill clinton, misunderstood the issue...sadly
[12:34] <zblach_> pointwood: town break down as follows. 300k people. 1.6k  (inc. me jews) 60k ex-pat lebanese
[12:35] <dhq> the moment i start to burn a dvd in k3b   ,, the moment i burn either k3d crashes or inputoutput error
[12:35] <pointwood> what town is that?
[12:35] <zblach_> windsor. we're just outside detroit, cross the canadian boarder
[12:36] <pointwood> k
[12:40] <pointwood> well, the problem was that the pictures most of the arabic world got worked up over, wasn't pictures that the newspaper posted
[12:40] <zblach_> that, and people automatically assumed the worse
[12:41] <pointwood> it was a bunch of imams (correct term?) from denmark that travelled the arabic countries, showed - some of the pics they showed, were much much worse than the pics in the newspaper
[12:42] <zblach_> a single imam, from my research, and outrage only began months later
[12:42] <pointwood> it wasn't a single imam
[12:42] <pointwood> they were a group
[12:46] <malice> !supported
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supported - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <zblach_> right, i'm out. g'morning
[12:47] <malice> anyone else know fo another site that would give me a list of supported wireless cards? the one from kubuntu is down.
[12:47] <kinema> seattlewireless
[12:48] <pointwood> a funny sidenote is the recent crisis in lebanon - one of the imams actually got evacuated from there and came back home to denmark. A newspaper (one of the "sensation" ones) posted a picture of him in the airport on their frontpage with the text "is Denmark good enough now?" or something like that :)
[12:48] <malice> I am looking for a card for the laptop
[12:48] <lupine_85> it's not called "the sun", or "the daily mail", is it?
[12:48] <malice> right now the one I have does not work
[12:49] <lupine_85> wireless LAN? pci/usb/PCMCIA?
[12:49] <kinema> malice: http://www.seattlewireless.net/HardwareComparison
[12:49] <pointwood> lupine_85: no, but it is similar
[12:49] <Nekrosith> hi there
[12:49] <malice> pcmciat
[12:49] <Nekrosith> Hey, could anyone help me??
[12:49] <pointwood> lupine_85: I'm danish, it's the danish equivalent
[12:50] <kinema> Nekrosith: what do you need?
[12:50] <lupine_85> ah :)
[12:50] <Naosz> dont know if this is the correct place to debate the rights and wrongs of the danish newspapers offending the muslim world and getting more than they expected
[12:50] <lupine_85> course it is :)
[12:50] <Nekrosith> I want to install kubuntu, I've alreadyask for the discs, but
[12:50] <Nekrosith> I need to know if my laptop is compatible with kubuntu
[12:51] <Nekrosith> it's a packard bell easynote v7900
[12:51] <Nekrosith> centrino duo processor
[12:52] <malice> lupin_85 the site shows me cards but it only says linux I need to know if it is supported for Kumbuntu
[12:52] <malice> kubuntu even
[12:52] <lupine_85> should be fine
[12:53] <Naosz> kubuntu supports my brand new mobile... that was a surprise for me, talk about plug and play :o
[12:54] <malice> No, the one I have now has a orinoco chip set and it does not work I tried everything
[12:55] <malice> unless one of you know how to use kismet?
[12:55] <malice> I ran that after install and it showed my card and my signal
[12:55] <malice> but I did not know what to do after that
[12:56] <malice> I took it as kismet would link me up
[12:57] <malice> it just shows me the connections
[12:57] <octan> hi all
[12:57] <lupine_85> never used it, but I'd imagine you have to select one of the networks and press "connect"
[12:57] <lupine_85> ..or something
[12:57] <lupine_85> since you can see the networks, the card is working
[12:58] <octan> im woundering,, is ther a app that removes double lines from a file.. i mean clone lines.. etc is a file has text1 on several lines.. it should remove it so only 1 text1 is in the file
[12:59] <lupine_85> sed?
[12:59] <octan> awk :P
[01:00] <lupine_85> or you could write a quick parser, to run through each line and compare it with the preceeding one
[01:00] <malice> no, this is all out of konsole there is not an option to connect
[01:00] <lupine_85> easy to do with bash
[01:00] <lupine_85> malice: man iwconfig then?
[01:00] <octan> i was more thinking of a c|c++ app..
[01:00] <malice> its there
[01:00] <lupine_85> man kismet, even
[01:00] <lupine_85> octan: none that I could think of off-hand. It's a pretty trivial thing
[01:01] <lupine_85> if you want I can knock you one up in lazarus
[01:01] <lupine_85> but it'll have to wait 'cos I'm just off to the shop
[01:01] <octan> lupine_85, lazarus?
[01:02] <octan> lupine_85, whats lazarus?
[01:03] <lupine_85> Object Pascal IDE
[01:04] <lupine_85> http://lazarus.freepascal.org
[01:04] <lupine_85> bit like Delphi
[01:04] <Nekrosith> anyone knows about compatibility betwen kubuntu and a packard bell easynote v7900??
[01:04] <kinema> Nekrosith: not a clue.  try booting the live cd and see what happens.
[01:04] <Nekrosith> ok, thanks
[01:04] <octan> lupine_85, isnt pascal old :P i tought no one was writing stuff in it anymore..
[01:04] <lupine_85> pascal is about as old as c
[01:04] <Nekrosith> by the way, the new Kubuntu includes Xgl or not yet??
[01:05] <lupine_85> not as popular, but faster and just as flexible
[01:05] <lupine_85> Delphi was the best IDE available for windows
[01:05] <kinema> Nekrosith: no but hold on a sec...
[01:05] <Nekrosith> ok
[01:05] <lupine_85> and Borland's C++ compiler used a lot of Delphi code ;)
[01:05] <lupine_85> (it was faster)
[01:06] <octan> lupine_85, oki :) im just staring to learn c++
[01:06] <lupine_85> well, replace { and } with begin and end, and you're almost there
[01:06] <octan> hehe
[01:06] <lupine_85> the object-orientated framework also makes more sense
[01:06] <kinema> Nekrosith: take a look at http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000081
[01:06] <CVirus> ROFL
[01:06] <lupine_85> IMO
[01:07] <Nekrosith> ok, thanks
[01:07] <lupine_85> download the .rpm files, turn the packages into .debs (alien) and have a play
[01:07] <lupine_85> the major advantage is that GUIs are really, really, really easy
[01:08] <Nekrosith> Kinema, thanks, gtg
[01:08] <Nekrosith> Bye folks
[01:08] <kinema> lupine_85: in lazarus?
[01:09] <lupine_85> yes
[01:09] <kinema> i'll have to check it out sometime
[01:09] <lupine_85> even better, native win32, qt and gnome apps are just a recompile away
[01:10] <lupine_85> MacOS X as well
[01:10] <kinema> qt?
[01:11] <octan> lupine_85, you if you write stuff in that lazarus thers no need for porting if you need to run it on other platforms?
[01:11] <octan> just compli and run it?
[01:15] <kinema> I wonder why Lazarus hasn't gotten more press..
[01:19] <pointwood> what email client do people use? kmail? I've seem to recall it having issues in regards to imap, but maybe those issues are solved?
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> thundrebird, now and then sylpheed
[01:21] <phreakys> hi
[01:21] <pointwood> I use thunderbird as well, but was considering using kmail
[01:21] <dhq> need help to burn a dvd
[01:22] <phreakys> does anyone know how to remove the windowbar of xglx(compiz) before kde booted up? now i have to manually hide it every time. not a nice sight
[01:23] <lupine_85> octan: pretty much
[01:24] <lupine_85> there are some OS-specific units (h file equivs), but you can usually avoid them
[01:26] <dhq> i am having problems with k3b and gnomebaker to burn a dvd-r  inputoutput error
[01:26] <phreakys> hm, some weird message from glxgears :S
[01:26] <phreakys> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:27] <phreakys> i get this alot. anyone knows what the problem is?
[01:29] <lupine_85> have you got DRI loaded?
[01:30] <lupine_85> (e.g. LoadModule "dri" in xorg.conf)
[01:34] <baldi> configure: error: "Could not find gtk-config. gtk-dev must be installed." <-- i don't know how i get gtk-dev :/
[01:34] <phreakys> yes
[01:35] <phreakys> dri is being loaded. isn't that normal for ati?
[01:36] <spring_> hi, i have used vmware to run a server, and also run ftp server on kubuntu, now what's the command format used to connect to ftp server from my vmware???
[01:36] <spring_> i have tried many formats like 'ftp localhost' , ... no avail
[01:37] <spring_> i got connection refused when i try 'ftp localhost'
[01:37] <dhq> Hawkwind: plz help me with dvd-r burning
[01:38] <phreakys> doesnt vmware use a virtual network adapter?
[01:38] <phreakys> may be easier just to install kubuntu out of the box, without vmware :-0
[01:38] <phreakys> :_)
[01:38] <spring_> ohh so i got to find address of those adapter 1st, i assume
[01:39] <phreakys> maybe
[01:42] <phreakys> hm, something is wrong about my videosettings ;(
[01:42] <spring_> well i can connect to  ftp server on kubuntu using filezilla in vmware winxp with address like 192.168.1.3 but how do i do the same thing in console from another vmware knoppix server
[01:42] <spring_> ftp 192.... simply doesn't work
[01:43] <phreakys> dunno
[01:43] <spring_> doh
[01:44] <phreakys> seems like a complicated configuration
[01:53] <phreakys> so weird
[01:54] <phreakys> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". + direct rendering: no and i get 6000 fps in glxgears still
[01:54] <phreakys> (compiz xgl loaded)
[01:54] <lupine_85> 6K fps isn't all that much on glxgears
[01:55] <spring_> hi how do i create a ftp server name for kubuntu so i connect to that ftp server using the created name within vmware linux server in console???
[01:55] <phreakys> no ok, but i dont understand why it has still this fps and saying the drivers are down
[01:55] <phreakys> xgl is working fine
[01:55] <lupine_85> but is the dri module loaded?
[01:56] <phreakys> no ;(
[01:56] <phreakys> its in xorg.conf
[01:56] <phreakys> but somehow it doesnt load
[01:56] <lupine_85> error messages in log?
[01:56] <phreakys> i noticed glcore is not loaded
[01:56] <phreakys> ehm, where is the log located?
[01:56] <lupine_85>  /var/log
[01:56] <lupine_85> progrably Xorg.0.log
[01:57] <phreakys> ah yes
[01:58] <alex_> hi@all
[01:59] <spring_> just a silly question, did anyone try to  manage a server thru gui ftp, say browser?? since i am bad in vi or emac, i plan to manipulate server with no gui thru browser connected to it thru ftp
[02:00] <phreakys> alot of mumbojumbo in Xorg.0.log, but i cant see anything wrong
[02:00] <phreakys> spring, why dont you use a windows ftp server?
[02:01] <spring_> i am not going to use windows
[02:02] <phreakys> but why vmware then?
[02:02] <spring_> to run virtual server for project management, everyone pc in the LAN can access it
[02:03] <spring_> also don't need to buy another machine
[02:05] <rod> helloo ... my xorg server or config seems to have got screwed up, during a recent system update ... i can't get X to start, with any of nvidia, fbdev or vga drivers ... any idea's whta might have happened or how i can fix it
[02:05] <atidem> rod: it's a bug
[02:06] <atidem> search on launchpad.net
[02:06] <rod> atidem: a known bug ? ... thanks, i'll look it up
[02:21] <larson9999> what a day!
[02:22] <zolmo> tell me all about it
[02:25] <ThomasI> Hi, it seems to me that the KDE session restore does not start the programs with the same paramters they were originally started, any way to change this behavior?
[02:25] <Pizzak_> how I can remove a ban with konversation?
[02:26] <lupine_85> they're listed in settings
[02:26] <lupine_85> so delete from there
[02:26] <larson9999> i wake up, breathe in this wonder thing called air, and i can't help but think it's gonna be another great day.
[02:33] <kutan> Anyone awake?
[02:34] <kutan> 247 other people and not one person on. o_o
[02:34] <kutan> well... 246 cause of the bot..
[02:36] <kutan> Well when someone sees this message I'd love some help, I keep getting this reoccuring problem
[02:36] <rod> hi kutan ... i'm awake, trying to ressurect my old kubu install ... don;t spose you are an xorg guru ?
[02:36] <kutan> ..oh
[02:36] <kutan> xorg? no o_o
[02:37] <rod> gack ... i cannot get X to start and am hopless with just term's
[02:37] <larson9999> i'm awake but i'm just listening to numa numa
[02:37] <kutan> Well...
[02:37] <kutan> Whenever I try to install something...
[02:38] <kutan> ANYTHING by myself if I can't use the package manager
[02:38] <kutan> in console it'll tell me this
[02:38] <kutan> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:38] <kutan> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:38] <rod> do you have gcc installed ?
[02:39] <kutan> Hell if I know
[02:39] <larson9999> kutan what do you type to install something?
[02:39] <kutan> well in this case I'm using wineinstaller so I use uhhh
[02:39] <kutan> sh wineinstall
[02:40] <kutan> and of course the sudo prefix if I need it >_>
[02:40] <rod> sounds like the installer migth need a c compiler ?
[02:40] <kutan> Where can I find a c compiler... besides google...
[02:41] <kutan> I mean like is there one specific one that's top of the line that I should get?
[02:41] <rod> type gcc into adept search
[02:41] <kutan> k
[02:42] <kutan> It says it's installed
[02:42] <rod> ah ... try    gcc -v      ib the command line
[02:42] <kutan> k
[02:43] <kutan> wineinstall: file not recognized: File format not recognized
[02:44] <rod> what did you type ?
[02:44] <kutan> er.. "gcc -v wineinstall"?
[02:45] <rod> ah, leave out the wineinstall ... i was just cheking that gcc was installed ok
[02:45] <kutan> oh
[02:45] <kutan> yeah well I also tried without wineinstall, a whole bunch of text came up
[02:46] <rod> sounds about right ... i'm stumped
[02:47] <kutan> I also tried "Building the Wine Package from Source using APT"
[02:47] <slougi> what's wrong with the wine binaries?
[02:47] <kutan> It was fine when I created the package but when I typed in "dpkg -i wine*.deb" to install it... hold on
[02:48] <kutan> it said
[02:48] <kutan> Build command 'cd wine-0.9.20~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.
[02:48] <kutan> E: Child process failed
[02:49] <slougi> kutan: have you tried the ./configure, make approach?
[02:50] <kutan> Yep
[02:50] <kutan> Fails all the time too
[02:50] <kutan> the ./configure doesn't work
[02:50] <slougi> kutan: it complains about the C compiler?
[02:50] <kutan> Hold on I'll try ./configure on something and get the log
[02:51] <larson9999> why are you installing wine that way anyway?  the newest version is in the repositories
[02:51] <larson9999> unless they just put out a new one
[02:51] <kutan> It doesn't show up in the repositories for me
[02:51] <larson9999> oh at least in one i have
[02:51] <kutan> even after adding the URLs
[02:51] <octan> update
[02:52] <larson9999> kutan lemme see what repo i added for that
[02:52] <slougi> kutan: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[02:52] <larson9999> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[02:52] <larson9999> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[02:53] <kutan> slougi I already tried everything on that list but failed all and larson I tried that one AND the the breezy
[02:53] <larson9999> kutan those seem to get the new version pretty quick.  the download slougi gave works, too.
[02:54] <larson9999> kutan you running breezy?
[02:54] <kutan> Don't think so
[02:54] <kutan> Also
[02:54] <kutan> I just typed in wine in the adept manager and it came up with winelib
[02:55] <kutan> er libwine
[02:55] <kutan> is that it? o_O
[02:55] <larson9999> kutan what happens when you try to install with those repos or the link from slougi?
[02:56] <rod> can i tell xserver to ignore my nvidia card somehow ... is that what fbdev is all about ?
[02:56] <rod> or vga ?
[02:56] <slougi> rod: no, fbdev just basically gives you a console with higher resolution and ability to display graphics
[02:57] <kutan> Hmmmm hold on larson
[02:57] <slougi> rod: why do you want to ignore the nvidia card?
[03:00] <lambengolmor> sorry, does anyone know how to make skippy work?
[03:01] <rod> slougi: i can't get X to start ... i think some package got updated without me paying attention, but when i re-booted a day or so ago, X refuses to start :(
[03:01] <rod> i talking now from another kubu install on a separate partition, but i'd *love* to get the other going again ... it's got oddles of updates + personal consfigs etc
[03:02] <Bizzeh> hey, how would i get a root console in kubuntu so i dont have to type sudo before every single line?
[03:02] <duncan_> Hi guys
[03:02] <kutan> larson9999 I tried all of the methods in the link from slougi but none of them work
[03:02] <xyus> how can I register my nickname
[03:02] <xyus> ?
[03:02] <slougi> rod: maybe you were bit by the xorg bug... just try a apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and starting X again
[03:03] <larson9999> kutan 'none of them work' doesn't help.  what happens? error messages etc
[03:03] <rod> i don;t need h/w accelleration, just a gui desktop ... i also tried re-installing the nvidia packages + the linux-restricted-modules, but i can't see what's wrong :(
[03:03] <slougi> rod try updating the system, there was a major bug in a recent xorg update
[03:03] <slougi> xyus: register on freenode?
[03:04] <kutan> Hmmmm larson can you PM me so I can paste the errors without people getting angry? =\
[03:04] <rod> slougi: ah thank you ... i don't know apt-get at all being spoilt by adept ... i'll give it a shot :)
[03:04] <slougi> no worries ;)
[03:04] <slougi> kutan: just paste it here: http://pastebin.com/
[03:05] <kutan> ah okay hold on then
[03:05] <slougi> brb
[03:05] <rod> well, here goes ... back soon ;)
[03:05] <xyus> guys help me
[03:05] <xyus> xD
[03:07] <larson9999> slougi rod might not have security enabled, too.  that's a common issue now.
[03:08] <slougi> larson9999: ah, dammit. didn't even consider that
[03:08] <slougi> xyus: where do you want to register your nick?
[03:09] <larson9999> slougi i only thought of it because i forgot on 2 different installs
[03:10] <os2mac> Hi everyone
[03:10] <slougi> hullo
[03:11] <larson9999> i'll be danged, wine popped another one out.  i think there is a new version every 4 minutes
[03:11] <xyus> slougi
[03:11] <xyus> I just wann register it
[03:11] <kutan> http://pastebin.com/777154 Those are 2 of the different methods
[03:11] <xyus> so I can do DCC convers
[03:11] <slougi> xyus: /msg nickserv help
[03:12] <xyus> REGISTER
[03:13] <slougi> kutan: are you sure you added the repositories? try this command: grep wine /etc/apt/sources.list and see if it prints out the repos
[03:13] <larson9999> kutan: you must have put those in sources.list or not have done 'sudo apt-get update'  otherwise apt-get would give you a message saying wine is already at the newest version or it would install it.
[03:13] <xyus> yope
[03:14] <larson9999> kutan: you must NOT have put those in sources.list
[03:14] <phreakys> hm, how would i get access to all directories from konqueror?
[03:14] <slougi> xyus: you must msg nickserv the commands
[03:14] <xyus> yeah
[03:14] <phreakys> i mean, write access
[03:14] <xyus> I got it
[03:14] <xyus> xD
[03:14] <slougi> larson9999: huh? of course he has to add the wine repos
[03:15] <larson9999> slougi: i meant he must not have already added them or didn't do the update.  otherwise wine would either install or give a message saying it's ready at the newest version
[03:18] <kutan> larson9999 I have it in my sources.list
[03:18] <slougi> phreakys: not generally advisable, but you could for example run `kdesu konqueror`
[03:19] <slougi> kutan: did you run apt-get update ?
[03:19] <pascal> Suddenly now when I start dapper it just gives me an error message that it's not possible to mount the hardrive... It works fine with edgy that is installed on the same Hd
[03:19] <kutan> Yep
[03:19] <slougi> and it gave no errors?
[03:19] <pascal> Does anybody have any idea about what this is?
[03:19] <kutan> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[03:19] <kutan> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[03:19] <kutan> that's all the errors
[03:20] <slougi> ah, are you running a 64-bit system?
[03:20] <larson9999> lol
[03:20] <larson9999> dang
[03:20] <kutan> 32 I think?
[03:20] <larson9999> slougi got to ask that sooner
[03:20] <slougi> :P
[03:21] <slougi> kutan: what does uname -a print?
[03:21] <kutan> Linux kutan-desktop 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:21] <slougi> yup that's a 64-bit system
[03:21] <larson9999> oh boy
[03:22] <kutan> oh boy what? o_o;
[03:22] <slougi> I am not sure wine even works on 64-bit systems
[03:22] <slougi> last I looked into it there were lots of issues
[03:22] <larson9999> slougi: i don't think so but i maybe would have missed that since i don't run 64bit
[03:22] <kutan> ._. I guess 64 isn't common?
[03:23] <pascal> What can I do when it's not possible to mount the /root  and other things.. It seems like it cant find the harddrive after choosing dapper
[03:23] <larson9999> i did find a site that looks like it addresses all the things i'd need to give it a try but haven't yet
[03:23] <slougi> kutan: it is the future, I have a amd64 processor myself, but run 32-bit linux cause of little issues like with the flash plugin, etc.
[03:24] <kutan> wait... I can go 32 bit?
[03:24] <kutan> I thought I had to go 64 -_-
[03:24] <larson9999> kutan: yeah
[03:24] <Bizzeh> why care about flash?
[03:24] <Bizzeh> its crap anyway
[03:24] <kutan> time to reinstall kubuntu ._.
[03:24] <slougi> pascal: there's lots of stuff to check... first, you could check that the kernel is passed the right parameters by grub
[03:25] <slougi> Bizzeh: well, I happen to think it's a pretty essential plugin
[03:25] <kutan> It is...
[03:25] <pascal> thats in the menu.lst right?
[03:25] <Bizzeh> for viewing overbloated sites that have use more bandwidth than they need?
[03:26] <slougi> pascal: yup, you can also check on boot by selecting the dapper entry and pressing e
[03:26] <slougi> Bizzeh: amongst other things, yes
[03:26] <pascal> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:26] <Bizzeh> flash is one of the worst things to ever happen to the internet
[03:26] <kutan> Can I change to 32 bit without entirely reinstalling linux...? :(
[03:27] <larson9999> i use flash a lot.  ebay for instance
[03:27] <slougi> kutan: I am not certain :/
[03:27] <Bizzeh> no, to go from 64bit to 32bit, you need a full reinstall
[03:27] <Bizzeh> why would you use flash on ebay?
[03:27] <pascal> slougi doesn't that look pretty sane?
[03:28] <slougi> pascal: yes it does
[03:28] <larson9999> kutan you can run 32 bit apps in the 64 bit world but i haven't done it and i'd recommend you reinstall the 32bit for now
[03:28] <slougi> pascal: do you have the exact error message?
[03:28] <kutan> Alright I guess it's time to get to work on that
[03:29] <slougi> yeah a 32-bit chroot is possible but it generally doesn't work all that well
[03:29] <pascal> then I have to reboot.  just wait
[03:29] <kutan> I'll be back when it's done :D
[03:29] <kutan> See yas
[03:30] <slougi> have fun :)
[03:34] <alex_one> please help me how to install a "s3 savage4" videocard on kubuntu??????????????????? and how to use tv out??? have a celeron cpu 500mHz & 768mb ram
[03:35] <alex_one> hello?
[03:37] <slougi> hi
[03:37] <slougi> alex_one: what exactly is the problem?
[03:37] <alex_one> when i start a open gl screensaver my monitor is black
[03:38] <alex_one> & icant use the tv out
[03:38] <charlie5> slougi: :) ... :) ... :)
[03:39] <slougi> charlie5: hi again :p
[03:39] <slougi> alex_one: for tv-out the easiest way is to install a program called s3switch
[03:39] <charlie5> thanks, the apt-get update & upgrade fethced the new xorg core pkg and all is now well
[03:40] <slougi> alex_one: you can then select to output for example to lcd and tv like so: s3switch lcd tv
[03:40] <alex_one> how "apt-get install s3switch" ?
[03:40] <slougi> charlie5: glad it worked :)
[03:40] <slougi> alex_one: yes
[03:40] <charlie5> slougi: phew !!! me too ;) ... cheers
[03:40] <slougi> alex_one: as to opengl, can you paste the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://rafb.net/paste/ ?
[03:41] <slougi> charlie5: no problem
[03:41] <pascal> back
[03:41] <slougi> pascal: so what did it say?
[03:42] <kenneth_> #linux.be
[03:42] <pascal> So the error message that I'm recieving is: "mount: mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: no such file or directory"
[03:42] <slougi> uh hold on, shouldn't it be mounting to / and not to /root ?
[03:42] <pascal> What I would like to try is to use the UUID instead of /dev/hda1 like in edgy
[03:42] <slougi> ah no, forget that
[03:43] <alex_one> what language c++?
[03:43] <slougi> alex_one: it doesn't really matter
[03:43] <pascal> but... I dont know how to find the UUID of hda1
[03:43] <pascal> Do you have any idea?
[03:43] <alex_one> http://rafb.net/paste/results/b20Otp56.html
[03:44] <slougi> pascal: well you could give a try, you could also try booting the edgy kernel into dapper and see if that works
[03:44] <slougi> give it a try*
[03:44] <slougi> pascal: nope, sorry
[03:44] <pascal> hmm. I'll try
[03:44] <kenneth_> does someone know how to run a pinnacle pctv card on kubuntu?
[03:45] <pascal> but first to google UUID ;-)
[03:45] <slougi> alex_one: hmm it's disabling direct rendering (ie 3d acceleration) for some reason, can you paste also /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:45] <slougi> pascal: good luck :)
[03:45] <alex_one> yes one min
[03:46] <larson9999> i just spent a day of heck trying to get a tv tuner working.  had problems in linux and windows.
[03:46] <kenneth_> i tried evry program from adept
[03:46] <zblach> hey, um, how can I automatically start xbindkeys on boot:
[03:46] <zblach> ?
[03:48] <alex_one> http://rafb.net/paste/results/D59jZk49.html
[03:49] <ubuntu_> hallo together w[nsche euche einen angehnemen sonntag und hierbei wieder mal eine schnelle frage wie mounte ich meine hd von der live cd kubuntu aus_
[03:50] <erov> nein
[03:51] <slougi> alex_one: try editing xorg.conf and adding one line: Load "dri" in Section "Module"
[03:51] <slougi> and starting X again
[03:52] <nicola> sorry I need help
[03:52] <nicola> I tried to install java
[03:52] <nicola> but when it asks for licence ageement
[03:52] <ubuntu_> wenn ich sie mittelsd gui mounten m;chte kommt diese fehlermeldung
[03:52] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:52] <ubuntu_> Please check that the device is plugged correctly.
[03:52] <nicola> I can't agree
[03:52] <Jucato> nicola: did you use Adept when trying to install Java?
[03:53] <Jucato> !de
[03:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:53] <nicola> Jucato: yes
[03:53] <slougi> ubuntu_: mount /dev/hdxy /foo sollte funktionieren? einfach x and y mit den richtigen variablen ersetzen, und ntrlich irgendwo mounten wo es sinn macht
[03:53] <kutan> I'm about to sound really stupid.
[03:53] <Jucato> nicola: ok, try this. Launch Konsole and type this in: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:53] <ubuntu_> ohhh thx mann i dident see it i just started the chat
[03:53] <alex_one> and where to additing it on the and befor endsection
[03:53] <alex_one> ??
[03:54] <slougi> alex_one: where all the other Load "something" lines are, the position in the list is not important
[03:54] <nicola> Jucato: it says an other program is performing installation so it can't do anything
[03:54] <alex_one> ok
[03:54] <Jucato> nicola: is Adept still open?
[03:55] <nicola> Jucato: no
[03:55] <Jucato> nicola: hmm.... ok try typing "sudo killall adept" first then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:55] <alex_one> i saved it
[03:55] <slougi> nicola: adept probably crashed in some way... kill the adept process first
[03:55] <alex_one> how to enable tv out
[03:55] <alex_one> ???
[03:56] <slougi> alex_one: with s3switch, like I said above
[03:56] <alex_one> i have installed it but cant choose it in the system preferences
[03:56] <nicola> Jucato: ok, now
[03:56] <nicola> Jucato: ?
[03:56] <slougi> it's a command line tool, you have to run it from a terminal
[03:57] <Jucato> nicola: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" it should continue where the installation stopped
[03:58] <nicola> Jucato:
[03:58] <nicola> nicola@Elros:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:58] <nicola> nicola@Elros:~$
[03:58] <nicola> Jucato: is it supposed to be ok?
[03:58] <alex_one> root@yo:~# s3switch; Devices attached:  CRT TV; Devices active:    CRT; Current TV format is NTSC-J
[03:58] <Jucato> nicola: hmm.. try installing Java again, this time in the command line: "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin"
[03:59] <slougi> alex_one: good, now run "s3switch crt tv", you might need to lower the resolution to 800x600 or 640x480 for it to work properly, but you can do that afterwards
[03:59] <nicola> Jucato: ok thanks it seems be working now
[04:00] <alex_one> ok thank
[04:00] <slougi> no problem
[04:00] <alex_one> you have help me much
[04:00] <slougi> be warned though that there are issues with savage cards and video on the tv-out, I am actually currently looking through the code in an attempt to fix this
[04:12] <dusty_> Hey guys how can I change the default browser to Firefox from konqueror so that when I click links it goes straight to firefox?
[04:13] <lupine_85> control panel kde settings
[04:13] <dusty_> thankyou
[04:13] <Jucato> dusty_: in System Settings > KDE Components > Default Applications
[04:17] <matthewf> hi all
[04:18] <Jucato> hi
[04:19] <theprofessional> any help need
[04:20] <dinwath> hithere
[04:20] <matthewf> im impressed with kubuntu, its a little slow on the system i got it installed on (a VIA epia) but everything seems to be working now as it should after an hour of post install tweaking
[04:20] <dinwath> i've got a little problem with a wiFi USB dongle
[04:20] <dinwath> antone can help?
[04:21] <dinwath> *anyone
[04:21] <Jucato> matthewf:  good for you! 
[04:21] <Jucato> Hobbsee!!!!
[04:21] <krizzer> when i mount a partition and i try to view it is says You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "multi"., how do i view it
[04:22] <theprofessional> i have use wifi usb dongle but google will help
[04:22] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[04:22] <Hobbsee> wait, `cut that
[04:22] <Jucato> lol
[04:23] <Jucato> I don't want to be whatever it is that's borking your sound...
[04:23] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:23] <Hobbsee> it started randomly borking when i reinstaled a while ago
[04:23] <Hobbsee> iv'e never found out what the problem is
[04:23] <Jucato> whoa...
[04:24] <Jucato> and what would you mean by "borking"?
[04:24] <Hobbsee> changing pitch at random, scrambling the music
[04:24] <Jucato> oh
[04:24] <matthewf> i did an update in synaptic that downloaded new xorg core.. i take it that sort of thing is automagicly installed
[04:24] <theprofessional> what is this borking shit
[04:25] <Jucato> !language
[04:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:25] <Hobbsee> woo!  and now i've really killed it!
[04:25] <Jucato> rawr!! you didn't intend to kill it when you shot it? ehehe
[04:26] <dusty_> Hey guys I have a wierd problem with my sound in kubuntu.  Every time I try to play music and then a system sound is invoked, e.g. click and app or opening an app, whatever it plays over my music and makes it mess up (like repeats itself, sounds awfull) its kind of stopping me from using sound in KDE, are there any fixes for this?
[04:26] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i didnt intend to kill it *quite* like that
[04:26] <Jucato> haha
[04:26] <Hobbsee> HAH!
[04:26] <theprofessional> any one know about adsl+ top speed is
[04:26] <Hobbsee> dusty_: what are you using for your sound?  autodetect?  (in system settings)
[04:28] <dusty_> Not sure it worked out of the box..
[04:31] <longbean> dusty_: if you just want to stop system notification sounds from playing then it's just a matter of turning them off in the control panel
[04:31] <dusty_> well no, I want it to work correctly..
[04:32] <longbean> or is it "system settings" rather than "control panel" in the default kubuntu install?
[04:32] <dusty_> system settings..
[04:32] <dusty_> But I would rather it worked right.
[04:33] <longbean> there's a subsection called "skip prevention" in there which may or may not help you
[04:34] <soulrider> hi everyone
[04:34] <Jucato> hi soulrider
[04:34] <soulrider> hi Jucato
[04:35] <ravenous> can konversation do fake trans/translucency?
[04:36] <lupine_85> don't think so
[04:36] <ravenous> k couldnt find it either just checking
[04:36] <lupine_85> there's a background image option... I bet it won't take alpha the way you want it to, though
[04:36] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i think i tried a very bad idea...
[04:36] <Jucato> whoa.... what did you do?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Jucato: removed /tmp
[04:37] <Jucato>  O_o
[04:37] <lupine_85> cor :)
[04:37] <lupine_85> quick, add it again
[04:38] <lupine_85> (a load of lock and socket files are stupidly placed there)
[04:38] <Hobbsee> and now i cant get kdm to log me in
[04:38] <Hobbsee> indeed
[04:38] <cucciola_azzurra> ciao ragazzi
[04:38] <cucciola_azzurra> ho un piccolo problema
[04:38] <cucciola_azzurra> chi mi pu aiutare?
[04:38] <aliasfred> !it
[04:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:39] <lupine_85> reboot and select recovery mode
[04:39] <Kutan> Hey uhm, I just decided instead of reinstalling 32-bit linux over the 64, I'm gonna format my harddrive and completely get rid of windows too but I have a question
[04:39] <lupine_85> that "should" work
[04:39] <Hobbsee> lupine_85: i'm hoping not to have to do that...
[04:39] <lupine_85> ctrl+alt+f1
[04:39] <lupine_85> try logging in there
[04:40] <Kutan> Do I have to download a different version of kubuntu to switch to 32 bit?
[04:40] <lupine_85> you'd think they (the software developers) would use /var/lock instead...
[04:40] <Kutan> Because I downloaded the one for a 64-bit pc
[04:40] <fdoving> Kutan: yes.
[04:40] <lupine_85> Kutan: yes
[04:40] <lupine_85> snap
[04:40] <lupine_85> www.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <Hobbsee> lupine_85: how do you think i'm on irc :P
[04:40] <lupine_85> in that case, just recreate the /tmp directory
[04:41] <_bbeck> I compiled Kopete 0.12.2, and everything seemed to go alright, but before I run make install I just wanted to make certain it worked.  So I run ./kopete, and everything looks alright until I try to go online or configure it.  Then I get the error "KCrash: Application 'lt-kopete' crashing..." has anyone seen this error?  Thanks.
[04:41] <Hobbsee> yeah, did that
[04:41] <Hobbsee> _bbeck: why did you try to compile it?
[04:41] <lupine_85> make it look like this:- drwxrwxrwt  11 root root  4096 2006-08-27 15:30 tmp
[04:41] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: has packages for dapper, it's already in breezy
[04:41] <Kutan> Well I don't have a problem redownloading kubuntu :D Last time I got like 1.3 megs a second on my download
[04:41] <_bbeck> I'm running Brezzy, and the version is fairly old. (0.11.1 I think)
[04:41] <Hobbsee> _bbeck: er..well..breezy...yeah, well
[04:42] <lupine_85>  (sudo chmod -R 777 /tmp , I think)
[04:42] <lupine_85> the problem is likely that kdm can't create the files it needs to, because it's ?not running as root?
[04:43] <lupine_85> not sure about that last part, but it'll be something like that
[04:43] <berkes> does anyone know a trick for konqueror to let it start with another (clean) session?
[04:43] <ketsugi> KDE4 is unlikely to make it into Edgy, right?
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> ketsugi: yes, it will not.
[04:43] <lupine_85> mm, everything in /tmp is user
[04:43] <ketsugi> Thanks
[04:43] <Jucato> ketsugi: nope
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> ketsugi: there isn't even a solid release date for kde4 yet.
[04:43] <berkes> LeeJunFan: you mean that it cannot be done?
[04:44] <LeeJunFan> kde4 probably won't even be in Beta in 2 months when edgy is released.
[04:44] <Jucato> berkes: what do you mean by "clean session"?
[04:45] <Jucato> KDE 4 first tech preview, unusable except for developers, is scheduled to be released in October. same month that Edgy will be released. So it really won't make it
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> unless they push back edgy.. :) but even then. that would be a rush job.
[04:46] <berkes> Jucato: a session that has new cookies.
[04:46] <cucciola_azzurra> ciao
[04:46] <cucciola_azzurra> #ubuntu_ita
[04:47] <lupine_85> delete some cookies? Create a new user and run konq. as it?
[04:47] <cucciola_azzurra> #ubuntu-ita
[04:47] <aliasfred> !it
[04:47] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:47] <Jucato> berkes: you can delete some or all cookies. but all instances of Konqueror use the same cookies
[04:47] <aliasfred> cucciola_azzurra: no ita for all i know. more -it
[04:48] <Zamboulie> my keyboard wasn't detected
[04:48] <lupine_85> surely the cookies are stored in ./konqueror ?
[04:48] <Zamboulie> on some games it doesn't work
[04:49] <Jucato> he can manually delete cookies one by one or by group in Konqueror's Settings
[04:49] <isos> Hi Guys
[04:49] <isos> does any body know how to define the bluetooth of my laptop?
[04:49] <Zamboulie> my brother is tying to play runescape and he can't type for some reason
[04:49] <Zamboulie> is this a problem with rune or what
[04:49] <Hobbsee> sigh.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> isos,  i fired up the package manager and installed the various bluetooth packages.. then i think i manually edited the bluetooth pin file in /etc/SOMEWHERE :P
[04:50] <berkes> Jucato: okay. then what I want is not possible.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> isos,  then ran that kbluetooth program
[04:50] <Jucato> berkes: probably. I'm not totally sure, though.
[04:50] <isos> aha ... thanks but didn't get what can I do
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> Huh?
[04:50] <berkes> Jucato: what I try to achieve is to be both logged in /and/ not logged in on one desktop. I now use Firefox and Konq to achieve the same
[04:51] <Jucato> I'm not sure if each Konqueror profile have their own cookies, but I'm guessing they're using the same set of cookies
[04:52] <berkes> Jucato: afaiks profiles share sessions/cookies
[04:52] <isos> I am trying to define it from kmenu - > System settings and when I hit bluetooth it prompts this error:  DCOP error when calling services()
[04:54] <isos> Hello
[04:54] <isos> I can't find the kbluetooth program
[04:55] <Jucato> strange.. Amarok says it "Could not read Audio CD" but Kaffeine and KsCD can play it fine
[04:57] <Jucato> whoa! since when did Kubuntu not require right-clicking on the CD icon to eject?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> Jucato: for ages....
[04:58] <Jucato> scratch that, it only plays in Kaffeine...
[04:58] <Jucato> Hobbsee: really? I never noticed that... before it would never eject unless I right-click on it...
[04:59] <Hobbsee> Jucato: dodgy config setting or something then.  *shrug*
[04:59] <Jucato> lol
[05:00] <Jucato> I think it's the *shrug* that's causing the problem 
[05:00] <glj12> anyone here good with sound issues
[05:00] <glj12> no one here has ever been able to resolve my completely awesome problem
[05:00] <Jucato> the topic of the hour seems to be aobut sounds...
[05:01] <glj12> ohrly
[05:01] <glj12> must be my lucky day
[05:01] <Hobbsee> glj12: crimsun is
[05:02] <glj12> sweet
[05:02] <glj12> so crimsun is a sound guru?
[05:03] <lupine_85>  Hobbsee: did you manage to get logged back in?
[05:03] <lupine_85> glj12: I can do simple stuff
[05:03] <lupine_85> what's broken?
[05:03] <glj12> my sound
[05:03] <glj12> :P
[05:03] <lupine_85> :p
[05:03] <glj12> system sound, etc
[05:03] <lupine_85> so no sound at all?
[05:03] <glj12> right
[05:03] <glj12> and it recognizes my driver with no errors
[05:03] <glj12> and my sound is turned all the way up
[05:03] <glj12> master and all
[05:03] <trappist> glj12: which driver would that be
[05:03] <lupine_85> using the alsamixer ?
[05:04] <glj12> and i know that the speakers do work, laptop is new, and played in windows
[05:04] <lupine_85> the arts control?
[05:04] <glj12> yes, alsa
[05:04] <glj12> um... via's driver? idk
[05:04] <lupine_85> is it a 5-channel sound card?
[05:04] <trappist> glj12: 'pcm' is an often-overlooked volume control.  turn that up?
[05:05] <glj12> its on a laptop, so i would asume any new laptop would have that
[05:05] <glj12> i tuened up everything i could find =/
[05:05] <glj12> arg, and now my icon is gone
[05:05] <glj12> :(
[05:05] <glj12> nvm
[05:06] <glj12> VIA 8237 is the sound
[05:06] <lupine_85> what I'd do, in order... first, the test system: disable arts, get xmms installled and using the ALSA plugin, and playing a .ogg (or something) over and over..
[05:06] <glj12> its onboard, obviously
[05:06] <lupine_85> they work in ubuntu. I've got one
[05:06] <glj12> whats arts
[05:06] <lupine_85> (using a c-media, but I've had it working on numerous linux systems)
[05:06] <glj12> and how do i disable it
[05:06] <lupine_85> artsd - lets your system play more than one sound at a time
[05:06] <lupine_85> System Settings->Sound
[05:07] <glj12> oh, alright
[05:07] <glj12> and then?
[05:07] <lupine_85> Untick "Enable the dound system"
[05:07] <Jucato> wb Hobbsee (didn't even notice you leave...)
[05:07] <glj12> ok
[05:07] <lupine_85> erm, sound
[05:07] <glj12> k, gettin there
[05:08] <Hobbsee_> Jucato: maybe because i didnt?
[05:08] <Hobbsee_> !ghost
[05:08] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[05:08] <Hobbsee_> oops
[05:08] <Jucato> oh...
[05:08] <glj12> lupine_85: i dont see where you untick that
[05:08] <Jucato> darn! I missed the "_" in your name ehehe
[05:08] <lupine_85> "Sound system" left icon; "General" tab; first item
[05:09] <glj12> rofl
[05:09] <lupine_85> right above "networked sound"
[05:09] <glj12> that was really bad on my part
[05:09] <glj12> sorry
[05:09] <glj12> >.<
[05:09] <glj12> anyway, i unticked that
[05:09] <glj12> then what did you say?
[05:10] <lupine_85> install xmms
[05:10] <lupine_85> it's ideal for testing purposes
[05:10] <glj12> k, rgr that
[05:10] <kristina> what to do
[05:10] <kristina> root@russia:~# apt-get upgrade
[05:10] <kristina> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[05:11] <kristina> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
[05:11] <kristina> Sie mchten wahrscheinlich apt-get -f install aufrufen, um dies zu korrigieren.
[05:11] <kristina> Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten:
[05:11] <kristina>   vdrift: Hngt ab: libopenal0 ist aber nicht installiert
[05:11] <kristina>           Hngt ab: vdrift-data (= 2006-02-21-1ubuntu1) ist aber nicht installierbar
[05:11] <kristina> E: Nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten. Versuchen Sie, -f zu benutzen.
[05:11] <kristina> root@russia:~#
[05:11] <Jucato> kristina:  please use pastebin
[05:11] <lupine_85> in it's preferences setting, you want to make sure it's using the "ALSA" output plugin
[05:11] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:11] <glj12> lupine_85: ...downloading
[05:11] <kristina> sry
[05:11] <lupine_85>  kristina: #ubuntu-de ?
[05:11] <Jucato> !de
[05:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:12] <glj12> ok, i got it
[05:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> i've totally messed up kde settings. how do i reset them,without removing all of ~/ files?
[05:12] <kristina> thanks
[05:12] <Jucato> DeeTahPanLtah: which settings in particular?
[05:12] <lupine_85> ok, so make sure it's on ALSA and get a song playing over and over
[05:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> Jucato: no windows borders and kdialog crashes...
[05:12] <glj12> lupine_85: what does the play over and over do?
[05:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> Jucato: or,atm it doesn't even crash,though there are no window borders
[05:13] <lupine_85> makes sure that there's always sound going to the soundcard
[05:13] <glj12> lupine_85: and does it have to be .ogg >.< ?
[05:13] <Jucato> DeeTahPanLtah: for the window borders, try choosing a new window decoration
[05:13] <lupine_85> so that you can hear if it's working
[05:13] <glj12> ogg only?
[05:13] <lupine_85> ogg is better-supported. If you've got mp3 codcs in for certain, use one of those
[05:13] <glj12> ok, i'l use an mp3
[05:14] <glj12> lol
[05:14] <glj12> i didnt install anything
[05:14] <glj12> it auto-recognized em
[05:14] <glj12> ok, an mp3 is playing
[05:14] <glj12> no sound though
[05:14] <Jucato> lol
[05:15] <glj12> now what?
[05:15] <lupine_85> ok, start with the simple stuff ;)
[05:15] <DeeTahPanLtah> errr
[05:15] <DeeTahPanLtah> after installing xgl thingies
[05:15] <DeeTahPanLtah> i've lost window borders in every particular user's settings
[05:15] <DeeTahPanLtah> how do i fix this?
[05:15] <lupine_85> open up alsamixer and make sure that all the volume controls are on max and unmuted; remember to scroll right for any extras; and toggle any other switches you come across
[05:16] <DeeTahPanLtah> i mean,borders,with _,square and X buttons...
[05:16] <glj12> lupine_85: k, did that
[05:16] <lupine_85> there are some really strange controls that I don't have a clue about, but control whether you get sound or not
[05:16] <Jucato> DeeTahPanLtah: so you're using XGL right now? I'm afraid I won't be much help in that area...
[05:16] <glj12>  turned em all up, and green light on all of em
[05:16] <kristina> nobody helps me
[05:17] <lupine_85> including things like IEC958 (if you have it?)
[05:17] <kristina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21798
[05:17] <DeeTahPanLtah> Jucato: yeah,i did
[05:17] <glj12> let me check that
[05:17] <glj12> yeah, i have it
[05:17] <glj12> i turned it up ALL the way
[05:17] <lupine_85> next step is the wires :). Unplug and plug into every sound slot you've got; linux sometimes sends sound to the strangest places
[05:17] <glj12> lol, laptop
[05:18] <lupine_85> so just the one hole?
[05:18] <Jucato> kristina: is this German? did you try going to #ubuntu-de ?
[05:18] <glj12> 2 holes
[05:18] <Jucato> I mean #kubuntu-de ?
[05:18] <glj12> one for the mic, and one for the headphones
[05:18] <DeeTahPanLtah> Jucato: but ive turned glx module and still there is none ;<
[05:18] <lupine_85> eh, not likely to be much confusion there, then ;)
[05:18] <DeeTahPanLtah> turned off*
[05:18] <kristina> there helps nobody
[05:18] <lupine_85> is there any other sound hardware?
[05:18] <glj12> i have no idea where the speakers are, but you can hear sound if in windows
[05:18] <glj12> nopers
[05:18] <kristina> nobody writes something
[05:19] <Jucato> rawr...
[05:19] <lupine_85> ah, integrated speakers
[05:19] <glj12> yeah
[05:19] <Jucato> I hope somebody understands/speaks German here...
[05:19] <glj12> no idea where they are, but by golly, they are there, somewhere...
[05:19] <glj12> iche liebe mein hund!
[05:19] <trappist> Jucato: try #kubuntu-de
[05:19] <glj12> :P
[05:19] <lupine_85> fraid I don't
[05:19] <Jucato> trappist: not me. kristina...
[05:19] <grayghost> Is anyone familiar with KSql...... is available for kubuntu?
[05:19] <lupine_85> except for Rammstein lyrics, anyeay
[05:19] <glj12> join #german
[05:19] <glj12> lol
[05:20] <Jucato> rawr!! not me!!!!
[05:20] <glj12> so, integrated
[05:20] <ministry> kristina: what is the problem?
[05:20] <Jucato> kristina is looking for help... no one is answering her over at #kubuntu-de ...
[05:20] <glj12> um... VIA 8237, do you need me to look up anything?
[05:20] <lupine_85> it's fully supported by linux, so shouldn't need to
[05:20] <lupine_85> XMMS complains if the sound isn't getting to the driver
[05:21] <lupine_85> so it's somewhere between driver and speakers that you've got the problem
[05:21] <lupine_85> To me, that strongly suggests that the sound is being muted and/or redirected
[05:21] <glj12> hmmm
[05:21] <glj12> i wonder where
[05:23] <lupine_85> well, artsd is gone, so you're feeding directly to ALSA.
[05:23] <ru> Can anyone help me with broken packages:
[05:23] <ru> http://pastebin.ca/150962
[05:23] <lupine_85> so it's alsamixer backwards
[05:24] <ministry> ru: did you try apt-get -check ?
[05:24] <ru> no didnt know about it
[05:24] <ru> let me try thanks
[05:25] <kristina> i have problems with the dependences
[05:25] <ministry> "check" no "-check" ... sorry
[05:25] <ru> E: Opening configuration file heck - ifstream::ifstream (2 No such file or directory)
[05:25] <ru> oh sos
[05:25] <ru> yeah
[05:25] <ministry> kristina: for which package?
[05:25] <ru> no errors there
[05:25] <ru> it works fine
[05:25] <matthewf> gah... whats a safe way of shutting down kubuntu from login screen without display ?
[05:25] <kristina> for all!
[05:26] <kristina> i cant install anything
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> matthewf,  try alt-ctrl-delete a few times
[05:26] <jasondotgnu> hello, is there a way to change the 'normal' font style seems more dark? eg. modify local.conf ?
[05:26] <ministry> kristina: strange,,, anyhoo... you could try to do that ru thing :) ap-get check
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> kristina,   try installing some stuff from the shell and perhaps tell us the error messages?
[05:26] <Jucato> matthewf: Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, then type "sudo shutdown -h now" to completely shutdown or "sudo shutdown -r now" to restart
[05:26] <trappist> matthewf: ctrl-alt-f1, log in at the console, and say sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:26] <ministry> *apt-get - damn keyboard
[05:27] <trappist> oh to shut down kubuntu
[05:27] <ru> I can install most things
[05:28] <ru> just not certain ones that depend on libcairo by the looks of things
[05:28] <kristina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21800
[05:28] <ministry> I've got the same problem with samba which depends on some other packages that are already installed but too new :) I've given up on that...
[05:28] <matthewf> none of that works
[05:28] <gan|y|med> hello
[05:29] <matthewf> and when i say i have no display i mean no video signal
[05:29] <gan|y|med> does anybody use the ati drivers in version 8.28?
[05:29] <glj12> sorry, back lupine_85
[05:29] <matthewf> or should i just use the power switch
[05:29] <ministry> kristina: I've seen the link before and I'm sure many others did as well, but I don't understand the language... I'm ok for localisation, but this makes things damn hard :)
[05:29] <Jucato> matthewf: oh sorry. hardware problem? Ctrl+Alt+Del might work
[05:30] <Jucato> Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:31] <ministry> kristina: oh... wait... "apt-get check" is the actual command
[05:31] <ministry> and you might want to sudo that
[05:37] <GameOver69> hey guys.... i know i hav java installed and im sure i have the firefox plugin installed.. but everytime i go to a webpage that has java firefox crashes... what can i do to fix this?
[05:38] <ganymed_> does anybody use the proprietary ati drivers in version 8.28?
[05:38] <pointwood> !easyubuntu
[05:38] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:39] <azazel35> hello !some body speack french here?
[05:39] <glj12> no.
[05:39] <Jucato> !fr
[05:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:39] <azazel35> thanck
[05:40] <digits> is it possible to have multiverse for just one package?
[05:40] <dutch> any one have a sources.list for edgy ?
[05:40] <Jucato> dutch: people from #ubuntu+1 might have one.
[05:41] <Jucato> digits: what do you mean?
[05:41] <dutch> plus1, thanks
[05:42] <Hobbsee> dutch: if you need to ask, you probably shouldnt run edgy.
[05:42] <digits> dutch: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Repositories
[05:42] <dutch> Hobbsee,  it's a practice box...:)
[05:42] <digits> Jucato: well i'd like to have flash, but i don't want to be bothered to download the complete multiverse package list every time i apt-get update (but i will want to keep in the loops with flash)
[05:43] <Hobbsee> dutch: even so.  can you recover if the system wont let you log into a GUII?
[05:43] <Hobbsee> can you still get on the internet, and ask how to fix it if you get stuck?
[05:44] <digits> There should be a mandatory 1 week pure console time per year for all Linux users, just to keep the skills up ;)
[05:44] <Hobbsee> digits: hehe.
[05:44] <Jucato> digits: I'm not sure. the whole purpose of APT is to make sure that dependencies will be resolved. If you only enable multiverse for a specific package, APT might not be able to resolvetect dependencies...
[05:45] <Jucato> that was: "resolveetect"
[05:45] <Jucato> that was: "resolve/detect"
[05:45] <digits> Jucato: ok
[05:46] <digits> Remind me to never ever promise to set up a working production server in debian for a friend--unless I get paid... ;P
[05:46] <Jucato> digits: I think updating the multiverse package list is only takes a short time after the initial update. only the first update seems to take longer
[05:46] <digits> Jucato: ok
[05:46] <Jucato> ;)
[05:47] <digits> Disgusting distro Debian... i rephrase; disgustingly slow distro...
[05:47] <Jucato> sssshhhh
[05:48] <digits> hehe
[05:48] <Jucato> hehe
[05:49] <gan|y|med> hello again
[05:50] <digits> hi there
[05:51] <digits> Hobbsee: i hate mine too... luckily my domain doesn't work for the weekend... (i need to propagate it but i can't get into the dns until monday) :D
[05:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:51] <Hobbsee> digits: it's not really that much of a problem - most is bugmail
[05:51] <gan|y|med> my xv support for the fglrx driver broke when i upgraded to version 8.28. the config dialogue for dual head also disappeared. downgrading to 8.25 still produces the same problem. everytime i try to play a video with the xvideo plugin the x server crashes
[05:51] <gan|y|med> any ideas?
[05:52] <digits> Hobbsee: ok, my spamassassin have alot to do in mine :)
[05:52] <Jucato> [ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:53] <cavalleto> Un novato busca ayuda
[05:53] <cavalleto> no me funciona el comando gedit
[05:53] <Jucato> !es
[05:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:53] <cavalleto> me aparece como command not found
[05:53] <Jucato> cavalleto: try "kate" instead of "gedit"
[05:57] <gan|y|med> xvideo extension does not work with fglrx module. any ideas?
[06:00] <visik7> gan|y|med: blame ati
[06:01] <dutch> Hobbsee, yeah, I made a backup copy of 6.06
[06:02] <matthewf> is nvidia still king of linux driver support btw ?
[06:02] <Mr_Flibble> yep
[06:02] <gan|y|med> visik7: why should i blame sb.?
[06:02] <matthewf> prior to installing ubuntu yesterday my last contact with linux was a year ago you see
[06:03] <gan|y|med> visik7: i would like to solve the problem (in fact, it used to be non-present)
[06:03] <visik7> matthewf: at least until intel will release a semi-opensource driver for the next video cards
[06:04] <Jucato> does Intel make non-IGP video cards (3D hardware acceleration and non-shared memory)?
[06:05] <tsdgeos> not since i710 or so i think
[06:06] <Jucato> oh... to bad... :-(
[06:08] <killalby> ciao raga
[06:08] <killalby> un aiuto?
[06:09] <killalby> prob con adept
[06:09] <A|i3N> hey how do I install/run a .sh file? I downloaded a trial version of star office 8
[06:09] <Jucato> !it
[06:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:09] <killalby> ok
[06:09] <killalby> grazie
[06:09] <j2daosh> whats up people
[06:09] <j2daosh> got a question, who in here uses kubuntu with samba?
[06:10] <j2daosh> and has windows xp computer on thier home network
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> all the time j2
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:12] <j2daosh> anyone alive here?
[06:12] <j2daosh> ok
[06:12] <A|i3N> Can anybody tell me how to run/install a .sh file???
[06:12] <Jucato> hehehe
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.sh
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> that is SUCH a faq... :P
[06:12] <A|i3N> lol.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> and its chmod +x whatever.run    ./whatever.run
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:12] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: never knew we had one.. ^_^
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> its a Linux in general Faq. :P
[06:12] <Jucato> hehehe
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> got to be one of the top 10 things asked
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> and dont forget its     ./somecommand   not just  'somecommand' :P
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> if its in the current dir...
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> and yes theres a REASOn the current directory is not in the path. :)
[06:13] <j2daosh> i got a computer upstairs that i need to get into. i dont have a password for the user thought. (i didn't set a password for it). samba doesn't like that though. how do i make samba not care about blank passwords?
[06:13] <Jucato> lol
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,  easier to set a password for the user. so you can access their home shares
[06:14] <Dr_Willis>  sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> also you may want to edit the samba config file to enable writeable home shares
[06:14] <j2daosh> that will let me get into my hom folder?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> yes. :P
[06:14] <Jucato> Dr_Willis is in such a very helpful mood today, ain't he? 
[06:14] <j2daosh> lemme try that
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> that samba thing is also a top 10 faq. :P
[06:14] <A|i3N> lol...... thank you Dr_Willis.. you da man
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> I need to track down a free web site to jot all these down.
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> and yes.. ive learned samba and grub and other things over a LONG period of time
[06:15] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: so what are the remaining 8 FAQ's? I can guess MP3 support is one of them...
[06:15] <j2daosh> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user administrator. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[06:15] <j2daosh> Failed to modify password entry for user administrator
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  thats too trivial to be a faq. :P
[06:15] <j2daosh> that is what i get for it
[06:15] <Jucato> I wish I had another box to use samba on...
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,  Huh?  what command are you using?
[06:15] <A|i3N> wow, it's installing. Awesome;) hehe
[06:16] <j2daosh> the one u just gave me
[06:16] <Dr_Willis>  sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME
[06:16] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: ehehe. but still, it's a FAQ, in the literal definition of the acronym 
[06:16] <j2daosh> sudo smbpasswd -a administrator
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> you did put in your USERS name - and not 'username' ?
[06:16] <A|i3N> Error: RPM staroffice-core01 install failed}.
[06:16] <A|i3N> Install complete. Package: staroffice-core01
[06:16] <A|i3N> oh that's just lovely
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> and not root. :P
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> you made a user named administrator? egads....
[06:17] <j2daosh> wait... are we doing smbpasswd for my user account downstairs?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> or wait - you are trying to make a smbpasswrd for the XP user?
[06:17] <j2daosh> xp user
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> You set up the LINUX user with a samba password
[06:17] <j2daosh> do it for my account then?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> nothing at all to do with xp or whoever is on the xp machines
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> adduser bgates
[06:18] <j2daosh> so i need to make my username have a blank passwd?
[06:18] <A|i3N> does... staroffice require anything special on my system to install? like java?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> smbpasswd -a bgates
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> I also tend to use the same user names on my xp and linux box's just makes it easier. :P
[06:18] <j2daosh> ok... i have the admin account on the xp computer... i need to get into that account from my linux. how do i do this?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,   login as admin i guess under xp and set up some shares. If thats even allowed.
[06:19] <j2daosh> i need to add an "administrator" username for smb, and then i do the smbpasswd -a administrator and use a blank passwrd?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,  you are going backwards.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> to get XP to connect to the Linux home shares - you set up the smbpasswd for the users.
[06:19] <j2daosh> no i want to go from linux to xp
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> to get Linux to connect to the XP shares.. you can mount them. or use a samba browser tool like smb4k
[06:20] <j2daosh> i hate winblows
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> smb4k is good. :P
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> but its not installed by default
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> xp should let you make  'open' shares.. but thats not a good idea.
[06:20] <j2daosh> i can get to the shares... the only problem is i cant get into my home directories and all that because it is asking for a password for administrator... but the admin account doesn't have a password s it fails me out of the computer
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> the admin account on your XP box dosent have a password?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:22] <lupine_85> question - I've got a brand-new Technikaka (Tesco) keyboard, with all manner of weird 'multimedia' keys. How do I map them to actions? (I've found Regional & accessibility settings, but the buttons don't 'do' anything in the boxes there). I assume it's a keymap thing?
[06:22] <j2daosh> nope :)
[06:23] <j2daosh> ok you got me... i lied... its not my box... its the mother in laws... but she wants her shit backed up
[06:23] <j2daosh> so lucky me... i get to be the guy to do it...
[06:23] <j2daosh> lol
[06:23] <j2daosh> mother-in-laws
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> id go put a password on the admin account.. or go to IT and  connect upstairs and backup stuff to some home dir you make just for her.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> or fire up smb4k and see.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> its possible that XP wont let you get to the admin stuff in any case.
[06:24] <j2daosh> smb4k huh...
[06:24] <j2daosh> i can on the other computers (but they all have passwords on them)
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> the idea that the admin account can have no password is just soooooo.. such a "MS way of thinking"
[06:24] <lupine_85> Zip it all up and upload it to a linux boz using psftp.exe ?
[06:24] <j2daosh> lupine thats too much work
[06:24] <lupine_85> :p
[06:25] <j2daosh> :P im lazy
[06:25] <j2daosh> if it was the wife or a friend it would be different... its the mother-in-law though to im using minimal effort
[06:25] <j2daosh> :)
[06:25] <lupine_85> anything involving win is too much work for me
[06:25] <j2daosh> lol
[06:25] <lupine_85> don't mind my mother-in-law to be, though
[06:25] <j2daosh> oh hell yes :)
[06:25] <lupine_85> 8)
[06:26] <j2daosh> i just found out how to hide accounts on xp lol
[06:26] <j2daosh> im gonna hide her account :P
[06:26] <j2daosh> im such an ass lol
[06:27] <Nerevar> is there any way in kubuntu to tell where it put grub
[06:27] <Nerevar> because it obviously didnt put it in the right place
[06:27] <lupine_85> check the menu.lst file? should be in there, I'd imagine
[06:28] <Nerevar> ok, and once i deterime where it is, how do i put it in the right place
[06:28] <Nerevar> my machine still boots into windows, no grub appears
[06:28] <lupine_85> grub-install <partition>
[06:28] <Nerevar> so i would do grub-install *windowspartitionthatibooton* ?
[06:29] <Nerevar> why didnt the install process put it in the right place?
[06:30] <mister_unknown> what did you install first, wind*ws or linux?
[06:30] <Nerevar> wind*ws
[06:30] <steveire> windows
[06:30] <Nerevar> but originally i had installed linux first and the hard drive bgan to fail
[06:30] <Nerevar> so i mirrored the drive to a new one, and grub was lost
[06:31] <mister_unknown> if grub was in the master boot record, it was not mirrored, only the contents of the partitions
[06:31] <Nerevar> yeah
[06:31] <mister_unknown> you have to reinstall grub in the mbr to make it work agian
[06:31] <Nerevar> that's exactly what happened
[06:31] <Nerevar> how can i do that
[06:31] <mister_unknown> grub-install, as someone said earlier
[06:31] <Nerevar> just type grub-install and it should work?
[06:31] <mister_unknown> "sudo grub-install DEV" where DEV is the harddisk device you use, typically /dev/hda
[06:31] <Nerevar> er
[06:32] <j2daosh> ok how do i make giu progz run as root in kubuntu?
[06:32] <Nerevar> the device i use to boot right?
[06:32] <mister_unknown> kdesu
[06:32] <mister_unknown> yes, the device name of the harddisk, not the single partition on it
[06:32] <j2daosh> Xlib: connection to "unix:1001.0" refused by server
[06:32] <Nerevar> ok
[06:32] <lupine_85> (if you've got a root password set, you can also use the "Run Command..." menu item)
[06:32] <j2daosh> that is what i get when i try doing graphical stuff as root
[06:33] <lupine_85> when you use sudo?
[06:33] <lupine_85> (generally I get that under su)
[06:33] <lupine_85> annoying environment variables thing, IIRC
[06:33] <lupine_85> chrooted environments, too
[06:34] <j2daosh> anytime i do su, sudo, kdesu
[06:34] <j2daosh> all of those
[06:34] <lupine_85> use the "Run Command" menu item. Try kdesu <program>
[06:35] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, set a root password and select the "run as different user" option; root and password
[06:35] <lupine_85> (but kdesu should work)
[06:37] <j2daosh> i need to put root and password in the box?
[06:37] <j2daosh> what is the format?
[06:37] <j2daosh> root passwd? root:passwd? root-passwd?
[06:38] <lupine_85> Options >>
[06:38] <lupine_85> and it all becomes clear :)
[06:39] <pippero> hi, i'm italian and i've never used before kubuntu, only freebsd, a little. i don't find "make"! Why?
[06:39] <lupine_85> the "run with a different priority" setting is also handy for things like (e.g.) k3b, amarok, etc
[06:39] <lupine_85> pippero: install it first. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:39] <pippero> ok thanks
[06:40] <lupine_85> (that will grab binutils and gcc for you as well)
[06:40] <andre_> does anyone have amsn running on ubuntu with tcl/t/k 8.5?
[06:41] <pippero> lupine_85: well, kubuntu says that i haven't build-essential
[06:41] <lupine_85> !build-essential
[06:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:41] <j2daosh> what the hell man
[06:42] <j2daosh> smb4k doesn't work half as well as konquer
[06:42] <lupine_85> konqueror is a hard target to measure up to ;)
[06:42] <j2daosh> konquer will actually let me get into the computer, smb4k just mounts and wont let me in it
[06:42] <azazel35_> how can i go to kubuntu.fr !!!please !
[06:42] <Jucato> !fr
[06:42] <lupine_85> bet it works better than windows explorer though
[06:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:42] <j2daosh> u do /join #kubuntu.fr
[06:42] <Jucato> actually, it's #kubuntu-fr
[06:43] <azazel35_> merci !
[06:43] <pippero> lupine_85: it's the same
[06:43] <j2daosh> yeah that one
[06:43] <Rejistania> Hi
[06:43] <Rejistania> I somehow FUBARed my repository list
[06:43] <j2daosh> ok
[06:44] <j2daosh> how am i supposed to browse shares with smb4k
[06:44] <j2daosh> ?
[06:44] <Rejistania> Can someone please re-send me it?
[06:44] <lupine_85> pipppero: it should be there. Ok, try installing make itself -- "sudo apt-get install make"
[06:44] <lupine_85> or search for it in adept and install from there if you prefer
[06:45] <Rejistania> I can not run updates atm and fear my system has become vulnerable as *squeak*
[06:45] <lupine_85> Rejistania: kubuntu dapper?
[06:46] <Rejistania> yes
[06:46] <lupine_85> 1 second
[06:47] <Rejistania> oops, it calls itself Breezy Badger
[06:47] <Rejistania> sry
[06:47] <dusty_> Hey guys whenever I install something via apt-get install.... i get the following message before it is installed: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gEUBKC97.html was wondering if there is anything I can do to get rid of that message?
[06:48] <lupine_85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21811 change dapper to breezy
[06:48] <Jucato> I seem to have a problem in Konqueror. It does remember passwords (through the KDE Wallet Manager), but it doesn't automatically log me into pages like Yahoo mail, Gmail, etc. All it does is to fill in the username and password at the login pages, and I still have to click on Login. Is this a normal Konqueror behavior?
[06:48] <Jucato> dusty_: what's the exact command you are using?
[06:49] <Rejistania> ty
[06:51] <j2daosh> what exactly is smb4k supposed to do?
[06:51] <j2daosh> what is the command to restart samba
[06:51] <j2daosh> ?
[06:52] <atidem> j2daosh: '$ sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart'
[06:54] <j2daosh> ok my smb is timing out... why would it time out on a ntwork machine?
[06:54] <phreakys> aaah
[06:54] <phreakys> finally
[06:54] <phreakys> sudo chown
[06:54] <phreakys> found it :D
[06:54] <pointwood> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:54] <pointwood>   sun-java5-plugin: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-06-1) but it is not installable
[06:54] <pointwood> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[06:55] <pointwood> hrmpf
[06:55] <pointwood> why do I get that error?
[06:55] <pointwood> or rather, how do I fix it? :)
[06:55] <Rejistania> lupine_85: seems to work
[06:55] <phreakys> you could try to remove the whole package?
[06:55] <phreakys> sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-bin
[06:56] <phreakys> i got the same error while installing compiz. in the end the cause was a broken package somewhere
[06:56] <phreakys> deleted the broken package and tried again. worked
[06:56] <j2daosh> how do i samba through commandline?
[06:57] <j2daosh> smb://hostcomp?
[06:57] <octan> smbmount?
[06:57] <j2daosh> ahh... never thought of that lol
[06:57] <nonickname> how do i start the tftpd-hpa server?
[06:58] <nonickname> i already set it as enabled in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa, but the network boot from a different comp doesnt see it
[06:58] <nonickname> or something..
[06:59] <dusty_> Jucato, apt-get install <programname>
[06:59] <pointwood> I ran apt-get -f install
[06:59] <pointwood> that removed the plugin
[06:59] <whizz-> can i export the list of packages i have installed to a file?
[06:59] <Nerevar> well, i booted from the live cd, and i tried grub-install sda
[06:59] <Jucato> dusty_: are you trying to run it while logged in as root (there's a "#" in the command line)? if yes, try using "sudo" instead, while in a normal user prompt
[07:00] <pointwood> now I get:
[07:00] <Nerevar> and it said permission denied
[07:00] <pointwood> Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:00] <pointwood> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:00] <pointwood> is only available from another source
[07:00] <pointwood> E: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate
[07:00] <Nerevar> i tried from Konsole, and  i tried from run command
[07:00] <Jucato> pointwood: is the multiverse component of the repositories enabled?
[07:01] <dusty_> Jucato, ok
[07:01] <pointwood> Jucato: yes they are
[07:01] <pointwood> deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:01] <pointwood> deb-src http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:01] <pointwood> I got that in my sources.list
[07:02] <Jucato> pointwood: not "dapper-backports"
[07:02] <dusty_> Jucato, that works :)
[07:02] <pointwood> hrm
[07:02] <dusty_> err no it didnt
[07:02] <Nerevar> any idea? Maybe i should install again?
[07:02] <Jucato> Nerevar: you could try searching for a solution in the forums about restoring grub
[07:02] <Jucato> [ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[07:03] <dusty_> Jucato, http://rafb.net/paste/results/cdlS6H39.html <-- look at what I get now :|
[07:03] <pointwood> ahhh
[07:03] <Jucato> pointwood: look for the line with "deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" and add "multiverse" to it.
[07:03] <Jucato> pointwood: note the plain "dapper", not "dapper-backports"
[07:04] <Jucato> dusty_: it's done. bitchx was installed
[07:04] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:04] <pointwood> Jucato: yeah, thx
[07:04] <Jucato> those error messages are probably from xorg.conf having settings for wacom when you don't have one
[07:04] <Ash-Fox> !de > slow-motion
[07:05] <slow-motion> hi Ash-Fox
[07:05] <Ash-Fox> Hello slow-motion.
[07:05] <pointwood> like this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[07:05] <Jucato> pointwood: yes.
[07:06] <Jucato> pointwood: then "sudo apt-get update" and then try installing the plugin again
[07:06] <pointwood> yup
[07:06] <pointwood> doing that now
[07:06] <pointwood> taking time - I'm on a slow wimax connection :(
[07:07] <Jucato> it will probably be worth the wait ./l
[07:08] <Nerevar> ok so i use this super grub boot disk i guess
[07:08] <Jucato> Nerevar: I think you can reinstall GRUB with using just a live CD
[07:09] <whizz-> i'm planning to create a multiboot lin/win environment: linux already is on hda1, can i get win (98) to install to hda2 (and running) ?
[07:09] <Jucato> but the instructions on the forums might be a bit more accurate
[07:09] <Nerevar> ok jucato i am sorry i can't pm you so i will just talk here
[07:10] <Nerevar> jucato - i tried the following in kubuntu - grub-install sda   and it said permission denied
[07:10] <Jucato> did you try doing "sudo grub-install sda"?
[07:10] <Nerevar> no
[07:10] <Nerevar> ill reboot and try
[07:10] <Jucato> wait...
[07:10] <Nerevar> ok
[07:10] <Jucato> oh ok
[07:10] <dusty_> Jucato, I know that.. but what are all those errors...?
[07:11] <Jucato> dusty_: I think it's about xorg.conf having references to wacom settings, when you don't have a wacom tablet
[07:11] <Jucato> fairly harmless, as far as I know
[07:11] <dusty_> Jucato, ok but shall i grep xorg.conf for wacom and delete the lines?
[07:12] <Hawkwind> dusty_: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[07:12] <Jucato> dusty_: why not just comment them out (put "#" at the beginning). Although if it's not causing any problems, I wouldn't touch it
[07:12] <Hawkwind> dusty_: Read that how-to on my forums
[07:12] <Jucato> oh there!
[07:12] <dusty_> thanks
[07:12] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I just have a short suggestion about that
[07:13] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Suggest away
[07:13] <Jucato> Hawkwind: would it be possible you could first show which lines they have to comment/disable, then show them what it would look like afterwards?
[07:13] <Jucato> something like what it looks like before and after?
[07:13] <D4rkly> anyone seen the Xgl video with glmartix very nice effect http://osvids.com/vids/0010/vid_0010.html
[07:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[07:14] <Jucato> howdy!
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yeah I'll do that here in a minute
[07:15] <BluesKaj> so what's the fun today ?
[07:15] <phreakys> hi
[07:15] <red> what is the default password for the kde wallet, everything i type in doesnt work
[07:16] <pointwood> hrm
[07:16] <phreakys> wonder if its possible to setup keys within kde (like super-d would be all windows minimize)
[07:16] <Jucato> red: first time kdewallet is launched, it will ask you to create a password
[07:16] <Jucato> phreakys: Ctrl+Alt+D
[07:16] <red> ok
[07:16] <pointwood> it seems to want to install now, but I get this error when doing apt-get install...:
[07:16] <phreakys> ah nice
[07:16] <pointwood> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[07:16] <pointwood>   Major opcode:  145
[07:16] <pointwood>   Minor opcode:  3
[07:16] <pointwood>   Resource id:  0x0
[07:16] <pointwood> Failed to open device
[07:16] <phreakys> tnx jucato
[07:17] <Jucato> pointwood: try using !pastebin for pasting
[07:17] <Jucato> !pastebin
[07:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:17] <otaku-san> pointwood: don't paste in the channel
[07:17] <phreakys> also possible to setup?
[07:17] <phreakys> !keys
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <Jucato> phreakys: yep
[07:17] <phreakys> cant find the keyboardsettings, like gnome had
[07:17] <Jucato> phreakys: System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:17] <red> how do i launch the kde wallet
[07:17] <phreakys> great :D
[07:17] <pointwood> sorry, I will use pastebin from now on
[07:18] <red> i only get this when i launch the mail or gaim
[07:18] <phreakys> man, im glad im on kde again now
[07:18] <Jucato> red: to launch it manually: press Alt+F2 and type in: kwalletmanager
[07:18] <red> thanks
[07:18] <phreakys> i dont like gnome at all
[07:18] <Jucato> pointwood: does the program still launch, regardless of the error?
[07:18] <pointwood> it launches and then errors out
[07:19] <Jucato> phreakys: the Keyboard Shortcuts are for general desktop shortcuts and for launching apps that are in K Menu already
[07:19] <BluesKaj> anyone here try medialinux live cd ?
[07:20] <adz21c> anyone have any idea why the alsa and oss might tests fail for me on cedega?
[07:20] <Jucato> phreakys: Input Actions are for making shortcuts or gestures for other things not found in Keyboard Shortcuts, usually for actions/commands you have made yourself or for programs you want to launch but don't want to add to K Menu
[07:21] <phreakys> i see. nice kde feature
[07:21] <phreakys> tnx
[07:21] <Jucato> ehehe!
[07:21] <Jucato> beats gconf-editor any day 
[07:21] <alex_> how to save and to close when i start "sudo vi /etc/fstab"
[07:22] <Jucato> ooh.. calling vi experts... ^_^
[07:23] <adz21c> anyone have any idea why the alsa and oss tests might fail for me on cedega?
[07:23] <alex_> *|*
[07:23] <alex_> +
[07:23] <alex_> help me
[07:23] <Jucato> alex_: I think ":save" will save
[07:24] <Jucato> alex_: and ":q" will quit
[07:24] <pointwood> ahh...found someone else that had the same error in the forum - seems I have the same problem - some wacom devices have been added to xorg.conf for some reason - wierd
[07:24] <pointwood> reboot...
[07:24] <Jucato> pointwood: holdon
[07:24] <BluesKaj> alex, just ask
[07:25] <Jucato> alex_: next time, might I suggest using Kate instead, or something easier to use like nano?
[07:25] <nonickname> is anyone familiar with netbooting?
[07:26] <trappist> alex_: hit escape, then either ZZ or :wq<enter>
[07:26] <alex_> there read only
[07:27] <alex_> i cant save fstab
[07:27] <alex_> how to change it
[07:27] <trappist> alex_: as root, you should be able to.
[07:27] <trappist> if you're in vim and you still can't, do :w!
[07:27] <trappist> (after hitting esc)
[07:27] <Jucato> alex_: "kdesu kate /etc/fstab" or "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[07:28] <Jucato> alex_: or right-click on fstab in Konqueror and select Actions > Edit as Root.
[07:28] <Jucato> take your pick...
[07:28] <trappist> I like 'sudo wine winword.exe /etc/fstab'
[07:28] <Jucato> lol
[07:28] <larson9999> xe is the best
[07:28] <ismael> alguien habla espaol
[07:28] <trappist> ismael: #kubuntu-es
[07:28] <Jucato> !es
[07:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <ismael> gracias
[07:29] <adz21c> anyone have any idea why the alsa and oss might tests fail for me on cedega?
[07:29] <BluesKaj> es!
[07:29] <BluesKaj> !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <BluesKaj> right
[07:30] <BluesKaj> :)
[07:30] <larson9999> i think i'll try to ge xe into a distro.  i don't think there are any other similar editors included
[07:31] <trappist> real men just use cat and ctrl-d
[07:37] <klerfayt> how to check device id?
[07:38] <trappist> klerfayt: what kind of device
[07:38] <klerfayt> more specifically graphics card id
[07:38] <Jucato> KInfoCenter?
[07:38] <klerfayt> I tried
[07:38] <klerfayt> it show id's
[07:38] <klerfayt> *doesn't
[07:39] <trappist> klerfayt: lspci -v
[07:39] <Jucato> would "lspci | grep -i vga" work ??
[07:41] <cerda> is there a way to mix subtitles of movies?
[07:41] <cerda> into a single fie?
[07:41] <cerda> file?
[07:41] <Jucato> isn't the output of lspci the same thing you can find in KInfoCenter?
[07:41] <trappist> Jucato: sorry, lspci -n
[07:41] <trappist> to show device and vendor ids
[07:41] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Does your xorg.conf still have all the wacom stuff in it uncommented by chance ?
[07:42] <edgar> hay alguien que hable espaol?
[07:42] <Hawkwind> !es
[07:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:42] <Jucato> trappist: I think you addressed the wrong person
[07:42] <trappist> oh, oops
[07:42] <trappist> I seem to do that a lot lately
[07:42] <Jucato> hehehe
[07:42] <Jucato> but my question was addressed to you, btw
[07:43] <Jucato> trappist: isn't the output of lspci the same thing you can find in KInfoCenter?
[07:43] <trappist> Jucato: never used kinfocenter, but probably
[07:44] <sorush20> hi guys is there anyother way that I could do fast searches of my hdd?
[07:44] <Nerevar> progress
[07:44] <trappist> sorush20: a way other than what
[07:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I think so. I never commented it out (yet). But this xorg.conf is an output of nvidia-xconfig
[07:44] <sorush20> trappist: thank ctrl + f in konqueror?
[07:44] <Jucato> Nerevar: how wasit?
[07:44] <trappist> sorush20: the fast way is to use locate, but you'll only get files that existed before the most recent run of updatedb
[07:44] <Mez> sorush20, what type of fast searches, and other than what
[07:44] <Nerevar> I used the super grub boot disk, got grub on the computer.. it saw ubuntu and xp, and refused to boot either
[07:44] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Can you look for me.  If so, can you pastebin it for me please
[07:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: sure
[07:44] <Jucato> doing that right now
[07:45] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Thanks :)
[07:45] <klerfayt> trappist: does "lspci -v" show you device id's?
[07:45] <Nerevar> so if the automatic grub doesnt work, I guess i have to do it manually, i dont know
[07:46] <Jucato> Nerevar: probably. are you trying to install GRUB on the MBR of the first hard disk?
[07:46] <trappist> klerfayt: sorry no, that's -n.  but -n doesn't show device names, so you need to find the device first with just lspci, then look for it in the output of lspci -n
[07:46] <Jucato> Hawkwind: hope this helps: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21818 (but I will not take responsibility for messed up systems. lol!)
[07:47] <Nerevar> jucato:yes
[07:47] <Buldden> hi
[07:47] <jan> hi all
[07:47] <Jucato> Nerevar: this is what I usually do. I can't guarantee that it will work 100% for you
[07:47] <glenn> hi all
[07:47] <Nerevar> jucato: nod... i dont really understand the manual options
[07:48] <Jucato> Nerevar: are you now in your working Kubuntu system?
[07:48] <klerfayt> trappist: I got it - 10de:0167
[07:49] <Nerevar> jucato: no... after the automatic procedure, neither OS would boot
[07:49] <jan> first i want to apologize for my bad english, but i've got a problem
[07:49] <rexdiver> can someone help a first timer with kubuntu 6.06.1?
[07:49] <Jucato> Nerevar: so where are you working from right now?
[07:49] <Nerevar> i blew out grub and ran fixmbr
[07:49] <Jucato> oh
[07:50] <eljefe> jan and rexdiver, what is it?
[07:50] <rexdiver> i just set up my laptop and it's working great but I don't know how to get the wireless nic working
[07:50] <jan> i want to compile some prgramms but there is no compiler installed, so i downloaded prcompiled rpm. how can i install them?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> jan,  install the compiler...
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> what are ya trying to install anyway?
[07:51] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Thanks.  I won't use it specifically, just pull parts from it
[07:51] <sorush20> where is all the artwork for kde?
[07:51] <alex_> i cant change as root the fstab file . when i want to save there comes "read only file system"
[07:51] <Jucato> Hawkwind: yeah, I figured you would. lol
[07:52] <Jucato> sorush20: scattered. depends on which one you're looking for
[07:52] <Jucato> Nerevar: ok, boot into your Kubuntu Live CD and launch Konsole
[07:52] <jan> my question was how to install the compiler :)
[07:52] <Nerevar> ok
[07:52] <Nerevar> oh btw
[07:52] <trappist> jan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> install build-essential for a start.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Thats got to bein the tip 10 faq also! ;P
[07:52] <Nerevar> my internet won't work on the live cd, it wont enabel eth1. the chipset is broadcom 4306
[07:53] <Jucato> jan: did you check if the program that you are trying to install is available in our repositories?
[07:53] <trappist> Dr_Willis: if not the top 1
[07:53] <trappist> the top 1 will soon be "how do I install firefox2 in dapper"
[07:53] <Jucato> alex_: in Konqueror, look for fstab in /etc. then right-click on the fstab file, select Actions, then select Edit as Root
[07:54] <Buldden> how open .arj .lzh archives in ark?? i have installed arj and lha but ark not open this filetype
[07:54] <Jucato> Nerevar: ok
[07:54] <jan> via Adept?
[07:54] <eljefe> ok for the compiler question: do you have a working internet on that machine?  If so, use your K-Menu to go to System --> Adept
[07:54] <Jucato> Nerevar: better take down notes, then... 
[07:54] <alex_> its on an another computer. he doesnt start
[07:54] <eljefe> It will ask for a password, so give it
[07:54] <Mez> Nerevar, for that chipset I believe you need to grab the firmware from somewhere else
[07:54] <eljefe> then find a compiler in there (search in Adept)
[07:55] <alex_> i can only do something in the terminal
[07:55] <Jucato> alex_: then "sudo nano <filename>" will launch nano (a text editor) as root so you can edit
[07:55] <jan> ahh. thx i've always tried add/remove software ..
[07:55] <tobias> if i have a friend who is very used to windows who wishes to play cs on his computer, and I have convinced him to use linux to play it since they tested it and it worked quicker and stuff, is there anything I should remember or any special linux distrubution that would be perfect for counterstrike gaming? :)
[07:55] <Jucato> Nerevar: still there?
[07:55] <tobias> is it kubuntu?
[07:56] <alex_> i have used nano & vi
[07:56] <eljefe> Add/Remove is for basic boring things, but Adept (or Synaptec) is for more geeky programs
[07:56] <klerfayt> tobias: how can cs be quicker with emulation on the same hardware?
[07:56] <eljefe> :)
[07:56] <Jucato> alex_: did you use "sudo nano" ?
[07:56] <Nerevar> yeah
[07:56] <tobias> klerfayt wine is not an emulator
[07:56] <trpr> tobias: i don't think the distribution matters. either way its a fair amount of work getting cs to run in wine.. but when it does, it is every so sweet :)
[07:56] <tobias> ah
[07:56] <Nerevar> jucato: i was just hungry realized i iddnt eat today been twinking with this since i got up
[07:56] <alex_> but he says read only file system
[07:56] <trappist> klerfayt: wine even stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator"
[07:56] <tobias> someone should streamline it!
[07:56] <rexdiver> can someone help with wpa wireless with intel 3945?
[07:57] <alex_> yes
[07:57] <Jucato> eljefe: Add/Remove Programs doesn't seem to see some programs..
[07:57] <tobias> trpr: is there some kind of batch file that could be made that would make it all so easy?
[07:57] <alex_> sudo nano and before sudo -s
[07:57] <Jucato> Nerevar: ok. in Konsole, type in "sudo grub"
[07:57] <tobias> trpr: and is wine free?
[07:57] <trappist> tobias: yes
[07:57] <Jucato> Nerevar: then "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[07:57] <tobias> trappist: wine is free?
[07:58] <trappist> yes
[07:58] <trpr> tobias: probably. i havn't looked into it in awhile. for all i know, there is a shiny new howto somewhere. and yeah, wine is free. cedega isn't however
[07:58] <tobias> trappist: good, thanks
[07:58] <Jucato> Nerevar: then it will display the partitions where the grub directory is installed
[07:58] <trappist> tobias: there's cedega, which is basically wine for games, which is non-free for the binary version, but you can still get the source for free and build it yourself
[07:58] <eljefe> Bullden I am blocked from private messaging...
[07:58] <tobias> I just mean if im gonna convert people into linux its sucki to have to make them write lots of stuff to make stuff work
[07:58] <Nerevar> ok
[07:58] <tobias> aha
[07:58] <trpr> tobias: cedega runs cs out of the box, but it doesn't perform very well.
[07:58] <tobias> cool:)
[07:59] <Buldden> ok eljefe
[07:59] <tobias> trpr: is it possible to make it perform better?
[07:59] <trappist> tobias: it's a shame that our wine package doesn't work out of the box.  there's no reason it can't, except that it would take some work on the part of the packager.
[07:59] <alex_> and what now? chmod 777 dont work too
[07:59] <tobias> aha
[07:59] <Nerevar> jucato: ill let you know because the install procedure never askedm e where i wanted to put grub.. so i guess it probably put it somewhere wrong
[07:59] <tobias> yeah!
[07:59] <tobias> the wine package is very importanyt
[07:59] <trappist> alex_: don't ever chmod 777 except for /tmp
[07:59] <trappist> tobias: I agree
[07:59] <tobias> sneak linux in the backdoor gdamnit!
[07:59] <trpr> tobias: yeah. use wine and not cedega.. i don't know what cedega's issue is with it, but the fps suffers
[07:59] <tobias> aha
[07:59] <Jucato> Nerevar: it will be something like "(hd1,0)" <-- in this case, the grub directory can be found in the first partition of the 2nd hard drive (hdb1)
[08:00] <Jucato> Nerevar: I'm talking about the /boot/grub directory
[08:00] <tobias> can someone with my limited skills somehow help make an installation package for wine that would kick ass I wonder :D
[08:00] <Buldden> eljefe i have just installed arj lha packages
[08:00] <pointwood> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21819
[08:00] <trappist> tobias: packaging is hard.  but there's no reason you couldn't learn to do it :)
[08:00] <nlindblad> is there a deafult hot key combination for switching between the different work spaces?
[08:00] <Buldden> but not open this filetype with ark
[08:00] <pointwood> I get that error when trying to install sun java
[08:01] <pointwood> I've tried to use easyubuntu earlier...
[08:01] <Buldden> but i can extract in console
[08:01] <Jucato> Nerevar: btw, where did you install Kubuntu?
[08:01] <tobias> trappist: cool :) I will find a way and come here and ask silly questions(although I have this friend who is really good with this stuff Il bother mostly) :)
[08:01] <trappist> nlindblad: I use ctrl-f1 through f4.  there's another one to move through them, but I don't use it and don't know what it is.  ctrl-arrows maybe.
[08:01] <nlindblad> :D
[08:01] <nlindblad> thanks
[08:01] <trappist> ok not ctrl-arrows :)
[08:01] <alex_> what to do??
[08:02] <trappist> alex_: what was the original problem?
[08:03] <alex_> i change something in the fstab file & the othe pc does not start
[08:04] <alex_> & now i cant change anything in the fstab file
[08:04] <trappist> alex_: uh oh.  you'll probably need to boot to a livecd, mount your filesystem from there, and fix it that way.
[08:04] <Jucato> Nerevar: anyway, you'll probably only have one output from the "find /boot/grub/stage1" command. it will be (hd#,#)
[08:04] <trappist> alex_: why not?
[08:04] <trappist> alex_: if you're on that system, scratch what I said a minute ago about the livecd
[08:05] <Jucato> Nerevar: now , type in "root (hd#,#)"  (the result of "find /boot/grub/stage1")
[08:05] <Jucato> Nerevar: then "setup (hd0)" <-- this will install GRUB in hd0, which is the first hard disk, also known as hda
[08:05] <Jucato> Nerevar: then "quit" and reboot
[08:06] <jan> cu
[08:06] <Nerevar> jucato: I installed kubuntu to sda5 and the swap is in sda6
[08:06] <D4rkly> how do i install xgl on kubuntu for compiz it says edit gdm. im running kde ???
[08:06] <trappist> D4rkly: then edit the ServerCmd line in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[08:06] <alex_> how to mount the file system with the live cd?????
[08:06] <Jucato> Nerevar: ok, then you will probably get something like "(sd0,4)" as the result of "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[08:07] <trappist> alex_: if you're on that system and have access to the file, forget about the livecd.  we just need to figure out why you can't edit it, and fix that.
[08:07] <InuDuelist> I'm having a bit of a problm using .deb files, can anyone help?
[08:07] <D4rkly> is there a xgl kubuntu guide anywhere ?
[08:07] <Jucato> Nerevar: I'm not sure if the output will be (hd0,4) or (sd0,4)
[08:07] <D4rkly> !xgl
[08:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:07] <trappist> InuDuelist: in general you don't want to mess with .deb files.  just use apt-get, if possible.
[08:07] <trappist> D4rkly: there are many known to google
[08:08] <DBO> D4rkly, its essentially the same for gnome and kde
[08:08] <DBO> D4rkly, and the ubuntu wiki does cover kde
[08:09] <Nerevar> ok, i wrote all that down
[08:09] <Nerevar> jucato just to let you know i boot from my sata drive
[08:09] <trappist> none of the howtos quite worked for me.  since kde-window-decorator just plain "doesn't work", at least for me, the closest I got was using gnome-window-decorator in kde, which pretty much sucked
[08:10] <Jucato> Nerevar: if it outputs (sd0,4), the adjust the commands to "root (sd0,4)" and "setup (sd0)"
[08:10] <JRH3K5> Hmm
[08:10] <Nerevar> nod
[08:10] <JRH3K5> I wonder what would happen if I tried to SSH into Kubuntu, and then restart OpenSSH?
[08:10] <trappist> JRH3K5: it'll just work.  won't disconnect you or anything.
[08:10] <JRH3K5> Oh.
[08:10] <trappist> it's pretty slick.
[08:11] <trappist> JRH3K5: when you ssh in, you get your own sshd process that isn't killed by the restart.
[08:11] <InuDuelist> I'm having a bit of a problem downloading .deb files and using them, can someone help me out?
[08:12] <Jucato> InuDuelist: what are you trying to install?
[08:12] <trappist> InuDuelist: I responded to you once.  need more information now.
[08:12] <InuDuelist> You responded?
[08:12] <trappist> 13:07 <trappist> InuDuelist: in general you don't want to mess with .deb files.  just use apt-get, if possible.
[08:12] <InuDuelist> Oh, yes.
 InuDuelist: in general you don't want to mess with .deb files.  just use apt-get, if possible.
[08:12] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:12] <InuDuelist> I opened a query with you, but you didn't respond.
[08:12] <D4rkly> in the kubuntu tutorial it says to install compiz-gnome ???
[08:12] <trappist> oh, my channel list is bigger than my terminal window.  and, don't do that.  keep support stuff in the channel.
[08:12] <InuDuelist> I stated that I didn't really have a choice, as it wasn't in any known repositories.
[08:13] <InuDuelist> Ok.
[08:13] <trappist> D4rkly: there's also compiz-kde but that didn't work for me
[08:13] <trappist> InuDuelist: what package.
[08:13] <InuDuelist> Here's one of the many, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41113
[08:13] <InuDuelist> But it isn't really the package that matters, it's all .debs.
[08:13] <Jucato> InuDuelist: most support questions/answers are discussed in the main channel for the benefit of others
[08:13] <InuDuelist> I see.
[08:14] <Jucato> deb = package... ^_^
[08:14] <trappist> InuDuelist: what happens when you try to install it.
[08:14] <Jucato> lol
[08:14] <InuDuelist> Well, in Konquerer, it opens the .deb in Kate, stating that if I attempt to save it, it'll become corrupt.
[08:14] <InuDuelist> In Firefox, it just don't work.
[08:14] <ubuntu_> Sqlut /
[08:14] <Jucato> InuDuelist: polyester is available from our repositories
[08:14] <trappist> InuDuelist: just download it and say sudo dpkg -i filename.deb in the console
[08:14] <D4rkly> can someone point me to a kubuntu/kde specific xgl guide :)
[08:14] <ubuntu_> >nick Aloowan
[08:15] <trappist> or listen to Jucato who knows something I don't know
[08:15] <InuDuelist> It saves in under one second, and gives me an error message when I attempt to open it.
[08:15] <Jucato> lol
[08:15] <ubuntu_> erf /
[08:15] <Jucato> InuDuelist: the Polyester style can be installed from our repositories
[08:15] <Jucato> !kde-style-polyester
[08:15] <InuDuelist> Can it?
[08:15] <ubotu> kde-style-polyester: The Polyester widget style for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.5-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 440 kB
[08:15] <Jucato> InuDuelist: yep. pretty sure. I have it installed
[08:15] <InuDuelist> Alright, but for the rest of my .debs?
[08:15] <trappist> apparently it's in universe
[08:15] <InuDuelist> they all get the same problem.
[08:16] <trappist> InuDuelist: don't install software that way.  if you have to install a .deb (which is pretty rare, actually) just download it to your home directory and say 'sudo dpkg -i filename.deb' in a console.
[08:16] <Jucato> Hm... actually this seems to be a problem in Konqueror
[08:16] <InuDuelist> Tried it.
[08:16] <InuDuelist> Error Message:
[08:16] <InuDuelist> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41113
[08:16] <Jucato> trappist: the problem is something with Konqueror and KDE-Look
[08:17] <InuDuelist> Gr.
[08:17] <InuDuelist> Error Message"
[08:17] <InuDuelist> The utility is not in your PATH.
[08:17] <InuDuelist> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[08:17] <InuDuelist> I am the system administrator, and I'm trying to install it.
[08:17] <trappist> Jucato: that would be an ironic incompatibility
[08:18] <Jucato> trappist: Konqueror sees the link as a PHP file, and so tries to open Kate. if you right-click Save Link As, it will try to save a PHP file
[08:18] <Jucato> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
[08:18] <trappist> that's funny.  surely you get the option to download it if you just left-click it?
[08:18] <InuDuelist> In Konquerer, no.
[08:18] <Jucato> InuDuelist: try right-clicking on the download link and select Save Link As
[08:18] <InuDuelist> in Firefox, yes.
[08:19] <Jucato> does it try to save as document.php
[08:19] <InuDuelist> It does what you stated, tries to save it as download.php
[08:19] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:19] <InuDuelist> :P
[08:19] <InuDuelist> I'll be back in a minute.
[08:19] <trappist> Jucato: yeah bug gmail isn't :)
[08:20] <Jucato> trappist: what Gmail bug? Gmail working perfectly here...
[08:20] <trpr> eh. i hate links like that.. try to get a url for wget and you end up with download.php
[08:20] <RawSewage> how do you enable CD/DVD eject button
[08:20] <trappist> RawSewage: you have to umount the drive first
[08:20] <trappist> as in sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[08:20] <RawSewage> I know.  I dont want to
[08:20] <RawSewage> theres a way to make the button work
[08:21] <RawSewage> I forgot
[08:21] <D4rkly> there is eject in bin
[08:21] <InuDuelist> Back.
[08:21] <Jucato> trappist: I have a strange experience today: the eject button works just by pressing the button... even when there's a CD inside...
[08:21] <InuDuelist> What's next?
[08:21] <trappist> RawSewage: some distros use supermount, which imho sucks but makes that possible.  that's the only solution I know.
[08:21] <trappist> Jucato: if there's a cd inside, it's not necessarily mounted.  only mounting it makes it unejectable.
[08:22] <RawSewage> Im pretty sure theres a way to make the eject button work
[08:22] <JonTec> !Tilib
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Tilib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <RawSewage> regardless of mounting
[08:22] <Jucato> trappist: so if I put a CD inside, then a program uses it, then I close the program, it's not considered mounted?
[08:22] <JonTec> !tilip
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tilip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <trappist> RawSewage: I've spent many hours searching for a solution so I could install multi-cd games in wine.  afaik there is none except supermount, which would involve patching the kernel.
[08:22] <CatSoup> i'm sure this has been asked about a million times, but how do i get flash to work on konqueror? <---- noobie
[08:23] <D4rkly> oh eject is in /usr/bin/ you can make a link on your desktop then you will have an eject button :)
[08:23] <trappist> D4rkly: yeah but that still won't work while the cd's mounted
[08:23] <Jucato> or make a keyboard shortcut for it...
[08:23] <D4rkly> i think it does
[08:24] <Jucato> trappist: about the multi-cd installers, it doesn't work even if you try to run the installer with wine from the command line?
[08:24] <trappist> Jucato: no. the problem is that the installer is running *from* the cd, which means you can't umount the cd (it's in use) until you quit the installer.
[08:25] <kraut> i recreated my / on a dmcrypt with ext3. my /boot is a normal ext2. normally the initrd should contain the dm_crypt modules. if i want to boot the system, i get an error 24 of grub.
[08:25] <Jucato> trappist: hm.... this is what I did while trying to install DS1
[08:25] <ravenous> copy the first cd to the hdd and run the installer from there
[08:25] <kraut> has anybody an idea what i do wrong?
[08:25] <Jucato> trappist: install with wine from the command line, then eject the CD by right-clicking it in Konqueror
[08:25] <Jucato> it worked for me
[08:25] <kraut> 24 : Attempt to access block outside partition
[08:25] <kraut>     This error is returned if a linear block address is outside of the disk partition. This generally happens because of a corrupt filesystem on the disk or a bug in the code handling it in GRUB (it's a great debugging tool).
[08:26] <trappist> Jucato: that's pretty cool.  I never could get baldur's gate 2 installed once I quit using mandrake, which used supermount
[08:27] <Jucato> trappist: hope it works for you, too. 
[08:27] <trappist> Jucato: it just so happens I've lost interest in all my multi-cd games, but hopefully it'll work for RawSewage :)
[08:28] <ravenous> i know with ut2k4 you just have to copy the first cd to the hdd and run the installer from there and it will let you switch the rest of the cds out no problem
[08:28] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:28] <nath3000> Hi- got a bit of a problem here. I'm trying to install packages, but everytime told gsfonts-x11 needs to be installed. So it tries to install it, but fails because the postinst is trying to run update-fonts-dir with an option it won't handle (namely -x11r7-layout). Help?-
[08:28] <trappist> RawSewage: yeah that one's easy, because the installer's not running from the cd (also I have the dvd version so it's not an issue anyway :))
[08:28] <fdoving>    away
[08:28] <trappist> nath3000: sounds like a bug
[08:29] <fdoving> gah..
[08:29] <nath3000> trappist: I don't know how important that option is- if I could rebuild it without that option, maybe it would make dpkg/dselect complete and be happy
[08:30] <trappist> nath3000: you could try having a look at the postinst script and maybe comment out that line
[08:31] <trappist> nath3000: should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info/gsfonts-x11.postinst
[08:31] <nath3000> trappist: I've never played with .deb files before- I found I needed two commands to extract the contents. One to get the files that will go on the filesystem, and the other to extract the DEBIAN dir with the postinst
[08:31] <trappist> nath3000: you're using dapper?  my gsfonts-x11 postinst doesn't use that option
[08:31] <trappist> nath3000: you don't need to mess with the .deb - just edit the postinst script on your filesystem
[08:32] <trappist> (I think)
[08:32] <sbartleylinux> If I want to restrict ssh access to my server but still have ltsp clients work, how should I configure sshd_config?
[08:32] <nath3000> trappist: Oh yes, I see it- I didn't realise it cached them like that. Okay, I've edited it (removed the troublesome option).
[08:33] <InuDuelist> What's the command to search all folders within a folder?
[08:33] <Hawkwind> grep -R or you can use find
[08:33] <trappist> nath3000: you're on dapper?  I'm awfully curious where that package came from
[08:33] <InuDuelist> Thanks.
[08:33] <trappist> InuDuelist: are you searching for a file by filename or by contents
[08:34] <nath3000> trappist: Yep, Dapper. The original one.
[08:34] <InuDuelist> I'll looking for a folder
[08:34] <InuDuelist> Filename.
[08:34] <InuDuelist> Well, keyword.
[08:34] <trappist> nath3000: I wonder why my postinst script for gsfonts-x11 doesn't have that option
[08:34] <nath3000> trappist: It had had all the updates applied a few days ago.
[08:35] <trappist> InuDuelist: find . -type d -name '*keyword*'
[08:35] <trappist> nath3000: I had mine applied a few minutes ago
[08:35] <nath3000> trappist: gsfonts-x11_0.20_all.deb
[08:35] <trappist> nath3000: mine is 0.17...
[08:36] <trappist> nath3000: apt-cache policy gsfonts-x11
[08:36] <nath3000> trappist: and the script that is moaning about the option it doesn't understand, update-fonts-dir, that comes from xfonts-utils
[08:36] <Jucato> trappist: I may have a sort of "workaround" to InuDuelist's (and my) downloading problem
[08:36] <trappist> nath3000: my xfonts-utils is 6.8.2.1-5
[08:37] <draik> Jucato!
[08:37] <Jucato> hi draik!!
[08:37] <trappist> Jucato: kick kde-look for using such a round-about and non-konqueror compatible download link?
[08:37] <nath3000> trappist: mine too
[08:37] <Jucato> lol
[08:37] <trappist> nath3000: what does apt-cache policy gsfonts-x11 say
[08:38] <trappist> nath3000: | grep 500
[08:38] <Jucato> trappist and InuDuelist: whenever Konqueror tries to open/save something as a PHP file, just rename the download into it's appropriate file type, in this case I renamed it "polyester.deb"
[08:38] <nath3000> trappist: 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[08:38] <trappist> Jucato: ew.  but glad it worked :)
[08:38] <fdoving> trappist: 'apt-cache madison package' is nice :)
[08:38] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:39] <trappist> nath3000: maybe there's an update that's hit that mirror but not mine?  I'm pretty confused.
[08:39] <draik> lovely save as feature...
[08:39] <Jucato> fdoving: I just learned that command the other day. it's good... ^_^
[08:39] <trappist> fdoving: oh, that *is* nice
[08:39] <InuDuelist> Jucato, thanks for that.
[08:39] <InuDuelist> Anyone use Yakuake?
[08:39] <draik> I do
[08:40] <fdoving> Jucato: and after you've saved it as polyester.deb, you can use 'dpkg-name polyester.deb' to get the proper name on it.
[08:40] <nath3000> trappist: My friends machine on which this problem exists (and I am typing from) isn't on broadband, but I am. So I downloaded "by hand", hoping to install. I think that might be connected in some way
[08:40] <InuDuelist> Do you know how to use an installed theme?
[08:40] <Jucato> fdoving: yep. or just right-click on it
[08:40] <trappist> nath3000: I guarantee it is.  you almost certainly got the edgy package.
[08:40] <Jucato> InuDuelist: in this case, Polyester is a widget Style
[08:40] <fdoving> Jucato: dpkg-name will rename it automagically, to the nice debianized name.
[08:40] <InuDuelist> Jucato, I'm talking about a yaKuake theme.
[08:40] <trappist> nath3000: confirmed, 0.20 is the edgy version
[08:40] <nath3000> trappist: But I dialed up, and there's no updates waiting for me except some amarok-related ones
[08:40] <Jucato> InuDuelist: oooh..
[08:41] <Jucato> fdoving: ok... I just misread what you said.. sorry about that
[08:41] <nath3000> trappist: ooo, they have some problem then...I definitely got that file from the ubuntu directory
[08:41] <InuDuelist> It's ok, but do you know how?
[08:41] <trappist> nath3000: no, you downloaded an edgy package that shouldn't have let you install it.
[08:41] <Jucato> InuDuelist: unfortunately, the only time I tried a Yakuake theme, it made it crash
[08:41] <InuDuelist> I see.
[08:41] <trappist> nath3000: 'ubuntu' isn't enough.  there's ubuntu dapper (what you're running) and ubuntu edgy (the repo you got the package from)
[08:42] <Jucato> fdoving: a very handy tool, dpkg-name truly is
[08:42] <trappist> nath3000: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gsfonts-x11/+bug/52803
[08:42] <eljefedelito> nath3000: its like saying Windows or MacOS.  There are more than one version.
[08:42] <fdoving> Jucato: sure is :)
[08:43] <InuDuelist> Jucato, do you know where I choose the theme?
[08:43] <InuDuelist> I installed one, but I can't find it anywhere.
[08:43] <nath3000> trappist: Sorry, what I meant to say was that I was sure I got it from the dapper directory...but now I see there isn't one on the main archive mirrors
[08:43] <InuDuelist> Er, in Yakuake options, that is.
[08:43] <Jucato> InuDuelist: for Yakuake?
[08:43] <InuDuelist> Yes.
[08:43] <Jucato> InuDuelist: it should have an instruction for it..
[08:44] <nath3000> trappist: So what I think happened is I got confused, and assumed I was in the dapper files, when I was in non-version specific territory, with dapper, edgy, etc all in together
[08:44] <InuDuelist> Jucato, all it says is that the name is "Pure Technology".
[08:45] <InuDuelist> Nothing else.
[08:45] <Jucato> oh... sorry I'mnot familiar with it..
[08:45] <fdoving> nath3000: using http://packages.ubuntu.com is advisable.
[08:45] <atticstorm> All has anyone had any luck getting the Hawking H-WU36D Wireless USB network adapte working?  I tried it plug an play and Kinfocenter saw it as unknown.  I also tried ndiswrapper with no change other than breaking my PCMCIA wireless card - backed out and undone.  Have not seen anything on any webpages.
[08:45] <InuDuelist> Aw.
[08:46] <trappist> nath3000: could very well be
[08:46] <atticstorm> Update I have a email out to Hawking Tech, but no reply as yet.
[08:46] <digits> what's teh kubuntu version of gksudo?
[08:46] <Jucato> digits: kdesu
[08:46] <nath3000> fdoving: Cheers. In future though, I'm not going to bother trying to cart over debs to his house- he can bring his box to my house and get them via broadband using adept or something :)
[08:46] <trappist> digits: kdesu
[08:46] <pointwood> argh! doh! stupid! to accept the sun java license you have to tick a checkbox at the end of the license, I've just clicked next...
[08:46] <digits> thanks
[08:46] <fdoving> nath3000: in the filestructure of the mirrors you'll find all versions of a package (<breezy, dapper and edgy) all mixed in one directory. There are 'Packages' files to keep track of which version belongs to what release.
[08:47] <sbartleylinux> Can anyone help with an ubuntu ltsp server ssh configuration?
[08:47] <nath3000> trappist: Well, that seems to have worked, dpkg was happy to replace the broken, almost-installed EE one with the dapper one
[08:47] <trappist> nath3000: good deal
[08:48] <trappist> nath3000: for future reference, if you have to do something like that, sudo apt-get install --download-only packagename and get the file from /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:48] <fdoving> nath3000: good solution. or you could 'apt-get clean' and then 'apt-get install --reinstall' what he wants (drop --reinstall if you haven't got it installed already), and copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:48] <trappist> fdoving: or that
[08:48] <fdoving> trappist: -d is also smart, yes. :)
[08:49] <nath3000> trappist: And the reason I was doing this was to install testdisk- but the version apt-get finds is really old...6.1 from 2005 versus 6.4
[08:49] <Jucato> !pastebin > Jucato
[08:50] <trappist> nath3000: the stuff apt-get finds is what's available for your release.  going to look for newer stuff is likely to break things.
[08:50] <nath3000> trappist: the --download-only is for me to run on my box at home, to grab the *correct* version of the file, safe to take round on something like my external hard drive?
[08:50] <trappist> nath3000: yes
[08:51] <fdoving> yes, and it will get the dependencies too.
[08:52] <nath3000> trappist: That's great. Well, here;'s hoping testdisk isn't too old to work. I've got to grab some video off of a DVB-T set top box's hard drive which my friend erased...finger's crossed!
[08:52] <InuDuelist> Anyone know how to install a Yakuake skin?
[08:52] <nath3000> Thanks trappist/fdoving
[08:53] <trappist> Jucato: "hole"
[08:53] <trappist> :)
[08:54] <Jucato> lol
[08:54] <Jucato> I'm 4 hours waaaay past my bedtime..
[08:54] <terry_> ok... i'm a linux noob, how do i install packages using kubuntu?
[08:54] <tsdgeos> using adept
[08:54] <terry_> go on. :)
[08:55] <terry_> i downloaded a game off the ubuntu site, and it gave me a debian binary thing.
[08:55] <tsdgeos> there is a "add/remove programs entry" in the k-menu
[08:55] <trappist> terry_: avoid that whenever possible
[08:55] <aliasfred> !adept
[08:55] <tsdgeos> ah
[08:55] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[08:55] <tsdgeos> you have a .deb ?
[08:55] <terry_> yes.
[08:55] <tsdgeos> sudo dpkg --install file
[08:55] <aliasfred> sudo dpkg -i yourpackagenamegoeshere.deb
[08:56] <terry_> ...sudo?
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> terry_,  use the package manager. :P no need to manually download the thing.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[08:56] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> You are thinking in windows terms. :)
[08:56] <irrelevant> terry_: if you right-click on the .deb file, there's a option to install
[08:56] <terry_> i have a lot of learning to do. :(
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> Yep
[08:56] <terry_> true, but it asks for a password
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> #1 - fire up adept, and look for games
[08:57] <terry_> and when i type, no letters come up
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> sudo password is the first users password
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> and of COURSE you dont want the password shown as you type.
[08:57] <terry_> well nothing happens after i type it and press enter.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> Logical eh? :P and no it dont print *'s  as you type either.
[08:57] <gomek> click the box in order to type in it
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> Computers 101. heh..
[08:58] <terry_> crap...
[08:58] <gomek> the only time i don't get *'s is when i sudo from the command prompt
[08:58] <terry_> hmm.
[08:58] <terry_> something blew up. :-/
[08:59] <InuDuelist> You'd think that there'd be some sort of guide somewhere on the internet as to how to install Yakuake themes.
[08:59] <InuDuelist> But there isn't.
[08:59] <terry_> wth is yakuake?
[08:59] <Jucato> InuDuelist: frustrating isn't it?
[08:59] <InuDuelist> Yakuake is a terminal program.
[08:59] <InuDuelist> It rolls down from the top of the screen.
[08:59] <InuDuelist> With the push of a button.
[08:59] <Jucato> InuDuelist: you "might" get some help from #yakuake
[08:59] <irrelevant> InuDuelist: where did you get the theme?
[08:59] <trappist> InuDuelist: most well-made themes contain installation instructions in a README or INSTALL file in the tarball
[08:59] <InuDuelist> Whoa.
[08:59] <InuDuelist> That's a channel.
[09:00] <terry_> hmm.
[09:00] <InuDuelist> trappist, all it does is state what the name is.
[09:00] <terry_> each time i try to install a package it comes up with dependency problems
[09:00] <Jucato> trappist: unfortunately, some things in KDE-Look are far from being "well-made" or even documented at all..
[09:00] <gomek> where are you trying to install from terry
[09:00] <trappist> InuDuelist: well, I did say 'well-made' themes :)
[09:00] <trappist> Jucato: no kidding
[09:00] <Jucato> trappist: no, I was just kidding. lol
[09:00] <Jucato> 
[09:01] <irrelevant> InuDuelist: kde-look usually has instructions for everything... one here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41021
[09:01] <InuDuelist> It's a shame that nobody is alive in there.
[09:01] <trappist> Jucato: I should hold my tongue though - I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of poorly documented stuff on kde-look
[09:01] <draik> KDE-look almost crashed my 2nd install of Kubuntu
[09:01] <GameOver69> hey whenever i visit a flash webpage with firefox.. it crashes... i deleted the plugin... the webpage will load but iwthout flash... i reinstall the flash through firefox and it crashes again... can someone help me out iwth this please?
[09:01] <Jucato> trappist: of course.. I bet you can even get a poorly done theme working 
[09:01] <terry_> gomek:i think i got it
[09:01] <gomek> the flast for linux is old
[09:01] <draik> GameOver69, did you get the plugin?
[09:01] <gomek> flash*
[09:01] <terry_> i just had to install a package that would let that package work.
[09:01] <draik> look for the mozilla plugin
[09:01] <GameOver69> draik, yes
[09:01] <InuDuelist> Of course that would work.
[09:01] <InuDuelist> >_M
[09:02] <InuDuelist> >_<*
[09:02] <Jucato> terry_: what are you trying to install and how are you doing it?
[09:02] <GameOver69> draik, it used to work fine.. now it always crashes
[09:02] <InuDuelist> Time to try it out.
[09:02] <draik> weird
[09:02] <trappist> Jucato: it's been said that documentation is like sex.  if it's good it's very good, and if it's bad it's still a lot better than nothing.
[09:02] <draik> I have mine installed, but no issues
[09:02] <Jucato> roflmao
[09:02] <draik> trappist, LOL... that's funny!
[09:03] <GameOver69> draik, also.... i ahve java installed... i can tell it works because azureus works.. but it doesnt work in firefox
[09:03] <InuDuelist> Yakuake, for all those that want it, is in the repositories.
[09:03] <InuDuelist> And here.
[09:03] <InuDuelist> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29153ontent=36660
[09:03] <draik> check for both firefox and mozilla plugins
[09:03] <InuDuelist> Mmm... Yakuake.
[09:03] <GameOver69> draik, Shockwave Flash
[09:03] <GameOver69>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[09:03] <GameOver69>     Shockwave Flash 7.0 r25
[09:03] <cristian> Hola a todos
[09:03] <GameOver69> see thats whats in about:plugins
[09:03] <GameOver69> so it has the flash  plugin
[09:03] <trappist> GameOver69: open source java packages will work for some things like azureus, but not for other things - either you haven't installed the java *plugin* or you haven't installed sun's java package.
[09:03] <GameOver69> so i dont know why everything freezes
[09:04] <gomek> i use flashplugin-nonfree
[09:04] <cristian> alguien habla espaol?
[09:04] <gomek> no hablo espanol
[09:04] <trappist> GameOver69: or you're on amd64.  there's no 64 bit java plugin.
[09:04] <GameOver69> no 32bit
[09:04] <trappist> GameOver69: if things freeze when you hit a java applet, odds are you have a plugin installed for a non-sun java package.
[09:05] <trappist> GameOver69: update-alternatives --list java | grep sun
[09:05] <GameOver69> trappist, i have sun-java-bin installed
[09:05] <trappist> GameOver69: in that case, sudo update-alternatives --config java and select the sun jre option
[09:05] <GameOver69> trappist, /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[09:05] <GameOver69> thats what it showed
[09:06] <GameOver69> thats the one thats selected :(
[09:06] <GameOver69>   Selection    Alternative
[09:06] <GameOver69> -----------------------------------------------
[09:06] <GameOver69> *+        1    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[09:06] <trappist> GameOver69: then, things should work :)  ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[09:07] <InuDuelist> Gah.
[09:07] <draik> I have    *+    4        /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java
[09:07] <InuDuelist> I bit my tongue.
[09:07] <GameOver69> i dont have that directory
[09:07] <Nookie> what package is missing when trying to compile and getting this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[09:07] <march> hi
[09:07] <trappist> draik: I don't think that's a java package
[09:07] <GameOver69> i believe my firefox is in /opt/firefox/
[09:07] <trappist> GameOver69: how did you install firefox?
[09:07] <trappist> oh.
[09:07] <GameOver69> manually
[09:07] <trappist> I sure don't know why
[09:08] <GameOver69> its faster then ubuntu package
[09:08] <trappist> well, look for the plugins directory in there and see what your libjavaplugin.so file is symlinked to
[09:08] <draik> I'm good with the Kubuntu install of firefox
[09:08] <trappist> draik: I *have* heard that the mozilla.org one is faster
[09:09] <InuDuelist> Feck, it's stinging.
[09:09] <trappist> which is insane.  there's no reason it should be.
[09:09] <InuDuelist> Remind me never to eat again.
[09:09] <draik> I haven't heard anything about it until now... so far I'm happy
[09:09] <trappist> maybe just by virtue of being statically compiled.
[09:10] <GameOver69> trappist, /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[09:10] <trappist> GameOver69: oh, then sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so
[09:10] <irrelevant> I think there was an issue with the Firefox that came with Hoary or Breezy... don't think it's a problem any more
[09:11] <trappist> GameOver69: is there another file in the plugins directory called libjavaplugin_oji.so ?
[09:11] <GameOver69> yes
[09:11] <trappist> what's that point to?
[09:12] <GameOver69> /usr/lib/jre... etc
[09:12] <GameOver69> j2re...
[09:12] <GameOver69> its pretty long
[09:12] <trappist> GameOver69: does it have 'sun' anywhere in it?
[09:13] <GameOver69> yes
[09:13] <trappist> ok
[09:13] <GameOver69> j2re 1.5 - sun
[09:13] <trappist> and did you do the sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so ?
[09:13] <GameOver69> yes
[09:13] <GameOver69> said only one program
[09:13] <GameOver69> no need
[09:13] <trappist> I see.
[09:13] <trappist> GameOver69: have you tried with more than one java applet?
[09:13] <GameOver69> There is only 1 program which provides firefox-javaplugin.so
[09:13] <GameOver69> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so). Nothing to configure.
[09:14] <GameOver69> well heres the thing... i just changed the directories... and now java works.....
[09:14] <GameOver69> but
[09:14] <GameOver69> flash still crashes
[09:14] <GameOver69> how do i fix that
[09:14] <InuDuelist> w00t.
[09:14] <InuDuelist> I got it installed.
[09:14] <trappist> hah.
[09:15] <trappist> GameOver69: where does your libflashplayer.so point
[09:15] <GameOver69> hey trappist will the sun java that i have installed from the repo, be updated to 6 whenever it is finally released?
[09:16] <GameOver69> trappist, its not in there
[09:16] <trappist> GameOver69: not likely.  we usually only get bugfixes and security fixes backported, not whole new versions of software.
[09:16] <trappist> GameOver69: well there's your problem
[09:16] <trappist> GameOver69: should look something like this:
[09:16] <trappist> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   44 Jun 13 16:32 flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt
[09:16] <trappist> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   46 Jun 13 16:32 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[09:16] <terry_> Gameover: did you just try to install java on firefox? because i need to do that too.
[09:17] <GameOver69> trappist, ok so how do i get it to look like that
[09:17] <InuDuelist> Feck.
[09:17] <InuDuelist> Still having problems.
[09:17] <InuDuelist> Stupid mismatched colorschemes.
[09:17] <trappist> GameOver69: cd to the plugins dir and say 'sudo ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt' and do the same for the other file
[09:19] <GameOver69> i dont think i have the non free installed... i think ijus thave installed what mozilla installs
[09:21] <GameOver69> trappist?
[09:23] <tonyazp> hola
[09:24] <pointwood> I have kubuntu installed on a thinkpad z61t which have a Intel core duo (dual core) cpu. Linux should automatically detect and use both CPU's shouldn't it? how do I check that it uses both?
[09:25] <pussfeller> is the samba printing section of the kcontrol module hosed?
[09:25] <tonyazp> me podeis ayudar con amaroK?
[09:25] <pussfeller> cause I cannot seem to export my HP
[09:25] <pussfeller> !printing
[09:25] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:26] <terry_> ok. is there any definitive answer for the problem concerning java in konqueror?
[09:27] <tonyazp> como se reproduce musica en amaroK, no me deja reproducir nada porke tengo que crear listas de reproduccion
[09:28] <nonickname> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot .. using this, i have been able to get the comp i'd like to install linux on to find my dhcp server, but now it says loading pxelinux.0...... and doesnt change
[09:30] <nonickname> actually, it says "transferring pxelinux.0 (010011)"
[09:31] <nonickname> and that's it
[09:31] <nonickname> is there a specific place i can get help netbooting?
[09:32] <Fabsfabiola> hi, I need help....
[09:32] <nonickname> me too =(
[09:32] <Fabsfabiola> I've installed the Kubuntu recentlly
[09:34] <Fabsfabiola> and, every time that I need save something at the disket.... gives a message error...
[09:34] <digits> is the fglrx drivers known to not work with kubuntu?
[09:35] <fdoving> good night.
[09:35] <digits> fdoving: nite
[09:36] <Fabsfabiola> i'sorry with my inglish....
[09:36] <irrelevant> Fabsfabiola: what's the error message?
[09:36] <Fabsfabiola> hummm... do you undertand portuguese?!
[09:37] <irrelevant> not a bit
[09:37] <brkamikaze> Fabsfabiola: yes
[09:37] <Fabsfabiola> :)
[09:38] <Fabsfabiola> nao foi possivel montar o dispositivo, o erro informado foi: mount: de acordo com mtab. /dev/fd0 ja esta montado em / media/fd0 mount falhou
[09:38] <irrelevant> probably a floppy, might not know to mount it
[09:39] <brkamikaze> Fabsfabiola: put a LANG=C before the command to help
[09:39] <brkamikaze> but this means that the floppy is already mounted
[09:39] <Hawkwind> !pt
[09:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:39] <Fabsfabiola> humm. sorry?!  "lang"
[09:40] <brkamikaze> Fabsfabiola: if you used konsole, you just need to prefix a command with "LANG=C " to see it in english
[09:41] <pussfeller> wow, you dont have to mess with samba anymore for printing from 2k/XP :)
[09:41] <Fabsfabiola> ok...  can you explain the pass to pass, with command at the Konsole?!
[09:41] <InuDuelist> Konzole?
[09:41] <InuDuelist> Er.
[09:41] <InuDuelist> Konsole?
[09:41] <InuDuelist> Use Yakuake.
[09:41] <InuDuelist> It'll never give you problems.
[09:41] <InuDuelist> >_<
[09:41] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: Yakuake uses a Konsole "backend"
[09:42] <InuDuelist> brkamikaze, rolldown screen.
[09:42] <InuDuelist> Yummy.
[09:42] <InuDuelist> Anyway, I'm off
[09:42] <InuDuelist> I'll be back later, thanks for all your help.
[09:43] <pussfeller> yakuake ran buggy for me, personally
[09:43] <pussfeller> maybe was an old version
[09:43] <Fabsfabiola> brkamikaze ?! sorry, I'll need some patience, I'm a new user linux...
[09:44] <pussfeller> why don't my cd/cdr drive show up in K3b?????
[09:44] <slow-motion> n8
[09:44] <brkamikaze> Fabsfabiola: so forget about konsole, you're probably not using it anyway if you don't know what I'm talking about ;)
[09:45] <pussfeller> is there a new version of kde for dapper or something?
[09:45] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: should be
[09:45] <brkamikaze> but adept still doesn't show a thing
[09:45] <Fabsfabiola> brkamikaze if u explain becareful... I can do....
[09:45] <brkamikaze> Fabsfabiola: that would only be useful if you were at the console
[09:46] <pussfeller> i was wondering what the topic meant
[09:46] <brkamikaze> is your whole system in portuguese?
[09:46] <pussfeller> 3.5.4 available for dapper
[09:46] <pussfeller> anyways, the main thing I need to fix is k3b or anything not seeing my cd drives
[09:46] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: what's your CD recorder?
[09:47] <pussfeller> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[09:47] <pussfeller> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[09:47] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: ah
[09:47] <brkamikaze> they're both readonly
[09:47] <pussfeller> well, still niether appear  in k3b
[09:47] <pussfeller> neither
[09:48] <InuDuelist-AFK> Can someone refresh my memory as to how to mount my hda1 windows drive?
[09:48] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: try removing the "ro," part from fstab and restarting k3b
[09:48] <Fabsfabiola> brkamikaze I've done some commnads, is just u explain me with patience, rs  sorry... I want to learn
[09:48] <pascal> Hi anyone can help me with an atheros wifi card?
[09:49] <pussfeller> i made it rw
[09:49] <brkamikaze> Fabsfabiola: when you use any console command
[09:49] <brkamikaze> it uses variables
[09:49] <brkamikaze> LANG is one of them
[09:49] <brkamikaze> if you tell it that the LANG value is C
[09:49] <Fabsfabiola> for change pswd, rs  simple things, rs
[09:49] <brkamikaze> it will spit the text in english
[09:49] <InuDuelist-AFK> "Can someone refresh my memory as to how to mount my hda1 windows drive?"
[09:49] <InuDuelist-AFK> Anyone?
[09:49] <brkamikaze> "LANG=C cat --help"
[09:50] <brkamikaze> will show help in english
[09:50] <pussfeller> when i put em in manually, /dev/hdd it sez nothing available at those things
[09:50] <InuDuelist-AFK> I...
[09:50] <InuDuelist-AFK> guess not.
[09:51] <InuDuelist-AFK> Mounting a drive?
[09:51] <InuDuelist-AFK> Anyone?
[09:51] <Hasserfuellt> Anyone Knows the chan for german Ubuntu users?
[09:51] <trappist> jaaroo_: #ubuntu-de
[09:51] <trappist> err
[09:51] <pussfeller> !ntfs
[09:51] <trappist> Hasserfuellt: #ubuntu-de
[09:51] <Hasserfuellt> thx!
[09:51] <InuDuelist-AFK> trappist, would you happen to know how to mount a drive?
[09:51] <InuDuelist-AFK> :P
[09:52] <pussfeller> !windows
[09:52] <pussfeller> hmm is bot down
[09:52] <trappist> InuDuelist-AFK: I do
[09:52] <InuDuelist-AFK> Great.
[09:52] <InuDuelist-AFK> hda1, windows.
[09:52] <trappist> InuDuelist-AFK: and by 'windows' you mean fat32 or ntfs?
[09:52] <InuDuelist-AFK> ntfs
[09:52] <InuDuelist-AFK> Sorry about that.
[09:52] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist-AFK: mount can figure out this
[09:53] <trappist> InuDuelist-AFK: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[09:53] <trappist> InuDuelist-AFK: it will be read-only
[09:53] <InuDuelist-AFK> No writing?
[09:53] <InuDuelist-AFK> That's fine.
[09:53] <pussfeller> you might want to lead him to fuse ntfs, if you want RW support for ntfs
[09:53] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist-AFK: or just open Storage Media from the system menu
[09:53] <InuDuelist-AFK> As long as I can access the drive.
[09:53] <brkamikaze> and click on the HD
[09:53] <trappist> InuDuelist-AFK: not for ntfs, without some extra effort, no
[09:54] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: the write support is still restricted AFAIK even for the FUSE driver
[09:54] <trappist> InuDuelist-AFK: btw changing your nick to indicate away status is frowned upon, and it's even less useful when your nick is -AFK when you're clearly not afk
[09:54] <CapNemo> damned ! why kdevelop has only qt in the doc pannel !?
[09:54] <InuDuelist-AFK> ...
[09:54] <InuDuelist-AFK> "Permission denied"
[09:54] <pussfeller> no, fuse uses the native drivers
[09:54] <InuDuelist-AFK> trappist, I'm leaving in a minute.
[09:54] <InuDuelist-AFK> I just had a bit of time left.
[09:54] <pussfeller> err, rather the ntfs thinggee does
[09:55] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist-AFK: if /dev/hda1 is in your fstab
[09:55] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: a simple "sudo mount /dev/hda1" on the console will do
[09:55] <InuDuelist> I managed to Oh?
[09:55] <whatever> "dev/sda1" is the usual device 'address' on my system for my pendrive. it automounts nicely, but currently..
[09:55] <whatever> it isnt there !
[09:56] <brkamikaze> whatever: insert your pendrive first! :D
[09:56] <InuDuelist> Well, my files are mounted. I see it within /mnt.
[09:56] <whatever> "ls /dev/sd*" - gives no results
[09:56] <InuDuelist> But...
[09:56] <whatever> brkamikaze: it is inserted
[09:56] <InuDuelist> I can't get to any folders.
[09:56] <brkamikaze> whatever: strange
[09:56] <whatever> this happens when I umount manually
[09:56] <brkamikaze> try another USB slot, or something like that
[09:56] <Fabsfabiola> brkamikaze humm.. let me I see if I understood...
[09:56] <InuDuelist> It says that I don't have the correct permissions.
[09:56] <whatever> works after a restart
[09:57] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: even with sudo?
[09:57] <brkamikaze> whatever: hmm...
[09:57] <brkamikaze> next time umount via konqueror
[09:57] <whatever> k,
[09:58] <Fabsfabiola> brkamikaze I need open the konsole and writ the command lang=c?!  just this!?
[09:58] <InuDuelist> brkamikaze, I'm attempting to access a folder within it.
[09:59] <InuDuelist> It doesn't work by accessing it through konquerer, just through sudo.
[09:59] <InuDuelist> It says I don't have the correct permissions.
[09:59] <brkamikaze> Fabsfabiola: it will work only if you run something through that konsole
[09:59] <brkamikaze> to simplify
[09:59] <pussfeller> pmount /dev/hdc mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[09:59] <brkamikaze> just type "export LANG=C" and enter
[09:59] <pussfeller> hmmm for some reason they just dont show up at all
[10:00] <pussfeller> but cdrecord scanbus shows the burner
[10:00] <InuDuelist> Is there any way to be able to read my mounted folder?
[10:00] <pussfeller> actually, no it doesn't
[10:00] <pussfeller> maybe... the ide cable is unplugged :)
[10:01] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: good bet :)
[10:01] <pussfeller> i guess i have to reboot
[10:01] <InuDuelist> Grr.
[10:01] <InuDuelist> Nobody knows how to read a mounted drive?
[10:01] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: chdir to it!
[10:02] <unix_infidel> cd
[10:02] <unix_infidel> not chdi
[10:02] <InuDuelist> brkamikaze: That's the only way I can do that. But I need to access it through a file manager, konquerer specifically.
[10:02] <brkamikaze> unix_infidel: whatever
[10:02] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: open konqueror and type on the address bar the folder where it's mounted
[10:03] <InuDuelist> I did.
[10:03] <InuDuelist> That's what I've been doing, but it's having permission problems.
[10:03] <InuDuelist> "You do not have enough permissions to read file:///mnt"
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> gee i thougnt /media/ was where kubuntu put things. :P
[10:04] <oNg8Eidu> DCC SEND 01234567890123456789
[10:04] <InuDuelist> That was awkward.
[10:04] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: open a konsole
[10:04] <InuDuelist> Yakuake. :D
[10:04] <InuDuelist> Done.
[10:05] <brkamikaze> chmod 777 /mnt
[10:05] <brkamikaze> sudo chmod 777 /mnt
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> thats a little extreme
[10:05] <InuDuelist> Ok?
[10:05] <InuDuelist> Should I be able to read it, now?
[10:05] <brkamikaze> Dr_Willis: true, but gets the job done :)
[10:05] <Hawkwind> Just a little bit
[10:05] <Hawkwind> brkamikaze: But it's really bad advice
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> drwxr-xr-x   9 root root  4096 2006-08-13 21:34 media
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 2006-05-22 10:00 mnt
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> is what i got.
[10:06] <InuDuelist> Should I be able to read it, now? Because I'm getting the same error.
[10:06] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: I see it now
[10:06] <brkamikaze> the next time
[10:06] <brkamikaze> append "-o umask=0222" to the mounting command
[10:06] <brkamikaze> umount it
[10:06] <brkamikaze> and mount with this option
[10:07] <brkamikaze> it normally mounts with a 0277 umask
[10:07] <brkamikaze> so only root reads it
[10:07] <InuDuelist> So, what's the entire command?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> are we trying to mount a ntfs partition again?
[10:07] <InuDuelist> Yes.
[10:07] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: umount /dev/hda1; mount /dev/hda1 -o umask=0222
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> bookmark and READ that site. :P it explaons it all.
[10:08] <alex_> Hey, I've got a few minor questions.
[10:08] <mynimal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1429853
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> you do NOT chmod a mount point   in most cases. :P
[10:08] <brkamikaze> Dr_Willis: the chmod probably failed
[10:08] <brkamikaze> since ntfs is readonly
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> brkamikaze,  when you mount the device - the perms on the mount point are overridden anyway
[10:09] <InuDuelist> Thanks.
[10:09] <InuDuelist> I got that working.
[10:09] <brkamikaze> Dr_Willis: yes, that's why I'm appending the umask option :)
[10:09] <InuDuelist> Let's see... what else do I have to do?
[10:09] <brkamikaze> I really suffered with that before :P
[10:10] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: do you know the fstab's format?
[10:10] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: nevermind
[10:10] <brkamikaze> open the Control Panel
[10:11] <brkamikaze> click on the the "Disks and Filesystems" item
[10:12] <InuDuelist> Hm?
[10:12] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[10:12] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: then right-click your ntfs partition, choose modify, then click advanced and change the numbers after the "umask=" token
[10:12] <brkamikaze> to 0222
[10:13] <InuDuelist> to 0222?
[10:13] <InuDuelist> What'd that allow me to do?
[10:14] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: allow everything but writing
[10:14] <InuDuelist> It won't open
[10:14] <InuDuelist> Er.
[10:14] <InuDuelist> It won't open "modify".
[10:14] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: make sure you're in Administrator Mode
[10:14] <InuDuelist> I am.
[10:15] <brkamikaze> :(
[10:15] <InuDuelist> Hm?
[10:15] <brkamikaze> then I don't know what's wrong with the applet
[10:15] <InuDuelist> Aw.
[10:15] <InuDuelist> Ah, well.
[10:15] <InuDuelist> It's fine.
[10:17] <mynimal> Are SVG icon themes broken?
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> not tht ive noticed mynimal
[10:17] <brkamikaze> mynimal: I think kdevelop3 supports development on those languages
[10:17] <mynimal> Well, the Tango icon theme only looks good with PNG.
[10:17] <brkamikaze> it includes support for compiled languages, but also for scripting languages
[10:17] <brkamikaze> mynimal: SVG support is planned for KDE 4
[10:17] <mynimal> With SVG the icons are quite screwy.
[10:17] <mynimal> Alright
[10:18] <mynimal> And I tried kdevelop3 but it wouldn't start.
[10:18] <mynimal> It said something about plugins not being found. Hang on, I'll reinstall it.
[10:18] <brkamikaze> mynimal: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3-plugins
[10:19] <mynimal> Strangely enough it works now. Last time I did the exact same thing and it didn't work.
[10:23] <mynimal> Alright, I'll stick with KDevelop, thanks.
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> mynimal,  thats a sign of Insanity
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> :P
[10:23] <brkamikaze> =p
[10:23] <mynimal> What, got another suggestion? :P
[10:24] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: is it working now?
[10:24] <pussfeller> well, yeah
[10:24] <pussfeller> the cable must have been loose
[10:25] <pussfeller> at least, its working in gnome
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> cables are tighter in gnome? :P
[10:25] <pussfeller> it shows up in dmesg which is the important part
[10:25] <pussfeller> heh
[10:25] <brkamikaze> :O
[10:25] <pussfeller> see, why is gnome so far ahead of us???!!!
[10:25] <archangel_> can you share files with a windows pc through a usb male to male?
[10:25] <pussfeller> i dont think it works like that archangel_
[10:26] <brkamikaze> archangel_: I think it's easier to use a crossed ethernet cable
[10:26] <pussfeller> there is such a thing as usb host, however
[10:26] <archangel_> faster trasfer?
[10:26] <pussfeller> i understand that to be more for device to device
[10:26] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: gnome may be ahead on some things but it is way behind on some others
[10:27] <pussfeller> archangel_, you dont have a network hub
[10:27] <pussfeller> ?
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Gnome pulls ahead by tossing things behind...
[10:27] <brkamikaze> that's why KDExGNOME flame wars exist :/
[10:27] <pussfeller> or swtich, or router with multiple lan cables
[10:27] <pussfeller> i like them both, but I prefer kde
[10:27] <pussfeller> i do really like having the choice
[10:27] <archangel_> I cant get a windows pc that I'm working to get the ethernet (on board) to work
[10:28] <archangel_> (no I dont have on)
[10:28] <archangel_> one
[10:28] <intelikey> twm is better than kde !
[10:28] <pussfeller> i think yer best bet then is to get a little usb drive
[10:28] <intelikey> :)
[10:29] <pussfeller> and get the drivers from the linux box and stick em on the usb drive
[10:29] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start a desktop war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <intelikey> used to work  but i knew it wouldn't so i said it.
[10:29] <pussfeller> they are cheap as a crossover cable would be, and that wouldn't help you anyways
[10:29] <m-lund> Anyone here tried to install nagios (1.3) from multiverse?
[10:29] <archangel_> so I was hoping to share my connect on my ahh, okpc (running linux) to
[10:29] <m-lund> nagios-mysql, that is.
[10:30] <archangel_> oops mess that line all up
[10:30] <archangel_> my bad
[10:30] <intelikey> ed is better than emacs !
[10:31] <brkamikaze> intelikey: vim is better than emacs!
[10:31] <pussfeller> you have the windows computer working?
[10:31] <archangel_> I replaced a bad hard drive in a Compaq
[10:31] <archangel_> and the ethernet aint working
[10:31] <pussfeller> oh, thats a driver problem
[10:31] <archangel_> its a dual boot system now
[10:32] <archangel_> doesnt work in windows or linux
[10:32] <pussfeller> ussually the kernel has all the drivers built in, so you should have no prob in linux
[10:32] <FPX> hi, is there anyone, who can helb me to install domxml for php5? i can't compile the source
[10:32] <archangel_> yeah, I have never had a ethernet card NOT work with linux
[10:33] <intelikey> brkamikaze i was just playing,  in computer terms better than is reletive and subjective, best is a bogus term.   :)
[10:33] <brkamikaze> unless that ethernet card think you're ugly and don't want to work
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> ive had a lot of network cards that ive fought to get going under windows.
[10:33] <brkamikaze> intelikey: true
[10:33] <archangel_> it caught me off guard, I'm like WHAT!??!
[10:33] <brkamikaze> when I used cygwin I somehow ran ed
[10:33] <pussfeller> the main prob for me inwindows is, what kinda card is it :)
[10:33] <brkamikaze> (how the hell do you get out of that thing???)
[10:34] <brkamikaze> archangel_: just kidding
[10:34] <brkamikaze> sometimes the card is just lazy
[10:34] <brkamikaze> or it's broken
[10:34] <archangel_> lol  its all good my man  brkamikaze
[10:34] <pussfeller> cards are like 6 bucks at walmart :)
[10:34] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: but they're R$ 50 in here :/
[10:34] <intelikey> brkamikaze mmm first time i than ed i got out with a solute :-{
[10:34] <archangel_> yeah, that was just what I was thinking
[10:34] <brkamikaze> a US$ 50 video card costs R$ 300 here
[10:34] <pussfeller> wheres here brkamikaze
[10:35] <archangel_> I hate compaq
[10:35] <brkamikaze> which is roughly equivalent to US$ 120
[10:35] <archangel_> even the evo
[10:35] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: Brazil
[10:35] <pussfeller> ach
[10:35] <pussfeller> doesn't the govt there do everything possible to keep prices high on electronic goods, or something
[10:35] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: high taxes
[10:36] <pussfeller> yeah
[10:36] <stoic> that would be it
[10:36] <archangel_> they (compaq and the reporter reviewing them right out of the box)  rave about them
[10:36] <pussfeller> need to set up a bootleg shipping system to brazil :)
[10:36] <archangel_> not a good pc at all (just like their other trash)
[10:36] <stoic> hehe
[10:36] <pussfeller> the compaqs are almost impossible to get into the bios too
[10:36] <brkamikaze> :P
[10:37] <archangel_> lol, tell me about it
[10:37] <brkamikaze> I never handled a real branded PC before
[10:37] <pussfeller> the one I have , like a 200mh, has a strange pci assemply as well
[10:37] <pussfeller> its old tho
[10:37] <pussfeller> i need to toss it in the trash
[10:37] <brkamikaze> actually, the only one I ever messed with is mine's :P
[10:38] <intelikey> i might load linux in the bios on one of these p1's   i've never done that yet...    kernel in nvram.
[10:38] <archangel_> cant tell you how many time I rebooted the goofy thing to get the right key to go into setup
[10:38] <brkamikaze> pussfeller: I may still have a i486 in my grandmother's house
[10:38] <brkamikaze> but she lives in another state :P
[10:38] <draik> IT'S FINALLY DONE
[10:38] <pussfeller> i guess you could use it for a router
[10:38] <draik> CLI TRANSCRIPT AVAILABLE HERE
[10:39] <draik> http://www.draikunderlord.com/CLI.pdf
[10:39] <pussfeller> whats done Dr_Willis
[10:39] <archangel_> one of the best pcs ever (brand wise that is) was the Tandy
[10:39] <pussfeller> err draik
[10:39] <draik> yes
[10:39] <pussfeller> sorry
[10:39] <brkamikaze> archangel_: it's older than me
[10:39] <archangel_> remember them
[10:39] <archangel_> lol
[10:39] <archangel_> my first
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> hmm  i wonder how i got a /crystalsvg directory (in the / dir) :P
[10:39] <draik> pussfeller, huh?
[10:39] <brkamikaze> my first pc was that i486 I mentioned before :P
[10:39] <pussfeller> i said, whats done?
[10:40] <draik> oh, sorry
[10:40] <draik> going through other things, didn't read under my link
[10:40] <intelikey> Dr_Willis had help with it ?
[10:41] <archangel_> Tandy 486 25mhz 120 meg hard drive with an optional huge 14" screen with optional 256 color video card
[10:41] <brkamikaze> archangel_: :O
[10:41] <archangel_> 4 meg video card
[10:41] <intelikey> archangel_ i know that box.
[10:41] <archangel_> cost $4,000
[10:41] <brkamikaze> mine's was a 486DX2 40MHz 8MB ram, 512 hard drive
[10:41] <brkamikaze> DOS 6.22
[10:41] <intelikey> 16m ram
[10:41] <brkamikaze> Win 3.11
[10:42] <brkamikaze> I had no freakin' idea about wtf was UNIX :P
[10:42] <intelikey> 4 4meg sticks
[10:42] <archangel_> oh, I got a COLOR dot matrix too with the rainbow ribbon
[10:42] <brkamikaze> I had less than 7 years old by that time
[10:42] <intelikey> cost'd me d'nada
[10:43] <archangel_> oh I remember when the dx's came out, that was a big deal
[10:43] <brkamikaze> intelikey: huh?
[10:43] <archangel_> mine was the SX
[10:43] <brkamikaze> the next step for my computer
[10:43] <brkamikaze> was a Pentium 133
[10:43] <brkamikaze> :O
[10:43] <brkamikaze> 16 mb ram
[10:43] <archangel_> lol same here
[10:43] <brkamikaze> win 98
[10:43] <maltaethiron> O_O
[10:44] <archangel_> I got win 95 with mine
[10:44] <brkamikaze> next was a upgrade to Duron 750 and 128 RAM
[10:44] <brkamikaze> and after a couple of upgrades to get 512 RAM
[10:44] <brkamikaze> the processor was switched to a Semprom 2800
[10:44] <office_>  i have kubuntu version and i can`t install good codecs for movies
[10:44] <intelikey> i started running linux on a 486
[10:44] <brkamikaze> office_: install libxine-extracodecs
[10:44] <office_> from where
[10:45] <brkamikaze> from Adept
[10:45] <pussfeller> !restricted
[10:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:45] <intelikey> !codecs > office_
[10:45] <mynimal> Hrm, anyone know how to make toolbars non-draggable?
[10:46] <brkamikaze> archangel_: I'm just having a problem with this Semprom
[10:46] <brkamikaze> when I run it with 166 FSB
[10:46] <brkamikaze> I get segfaults all the time
[10:46] <brkamikaze> with everything
[10:46] <intelikey> mynimal fixed possion ?     hehhe in xfce just click and set it to fixed... in kde i'm not sure.
[10:46] <archangel_> sell it
[10:46] <brkamikaze> I have to run it with 133 MHz
[10:46] <archangel_> lol kidding
[10:46] <archangel_> wow
[10:46] <nonickname> i seem to be missing inetd :o
[10:46] <archangel_> heat problem?
[10:46] <brkamikaze> so the bios think it's an Athlon MP 1900+
[10:46] <brkamikaze> :O
[10:46] <mynimal> I really just want that drag gripper thing hidden :P
[10:47] <brkamikaze> archangel_: I have a processor cooler and a system cooler
[10:47] <brkamikaze> but the processor cooler is kinda slower than the system cooler
[10:47] <intelikey> mynimal if it's not in kcontrol  idk
[10:47] <brkamikaze> I want to switch the coolers position
[10:47] <mynimal> ah, thanks anyway
[10:47] <brkamikaze> so the now system cooler would be the processor cooler and vice-versa
[10:47] <nonickname> !inetd
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <office_> there is no libxine-extracodecs on adept
[10:48] <nonickname> !info inetd
[10:48] <ubotu> Package inetd does not exist in any distro I know
[10:48] <nonickname> !info xinetd
[10:48] <ubotu> xinetd: replacement for inetd with many enhancements. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.3.14-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 127 kB, installed size 348 kB
[10:48] <brkamikaze> I just can't remove the old cooler from the heat sink :/
[10:48] <brkamikaze> !info kde 3.5.4
[10:48] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[10:48] <archangel_> hmmm but the 1900 didnt run at 133\
[10:48] <brkamikaze> !info kde4
[10:48] <ubotu> Package kde4 does not exist in any distro I know
[10:49] <intelikey> mynimal check kcontrol > windows     iirc there 'may' be a setting there on that.   and apply to all apps   or is it  non-kde apps   check box
[10:49] <drbreen_> compile it for yourself - kde4 is only for ppl that can do (early preview for devs)
[10:49] <brkamikaze> how do I install kde 3.5.4 on dapper?
[10:49] <drbreen_> so its no use as standard user
[10:49] <nonickname> so i can just replace everything that i am told to do with inetd with xinetd?
[10:49] <brkamikaze> drbreen_: I can compile, I just don't wann use it for now :)
[10:50] <office_> brkamikaze:
[10:50] <office_> can you help me a little?
[10:50] <mynimal> intelikey: thanks, I'll check it out.
[10:50] <brkamikaze> office_: sure
[10:50] <office_> i cant find libxine-extracodecs on adept
[10:51] <archangel_> good luck guys,  gotta go to bible party
[10:51] <brkamikaze> office_: you need to enable the universe repository
[10:51] <drbreen_> brkamimakze: yeah, i can compile too, but kde4 is just broken now and no use ;)
[10:51] <intelikey> archangel_ shalom
[10:51] <mshade> !gcc
[10:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:51] <mynimal> How do I change the Desktop folder? I changed it before I formatted, I forget where the setting is though.
[10:51] <drbreen_> i asume it - havent tested for just this reason
[10:51] <brkamikaze> drbreen_: LFS helps a lot :)
[10:51] <office_> they are enabled
[10:51] <drbreen_> wtf is LFS ?
[10:51] <office_> universe and multi
[10:51] <nonickname> !lfs
[10:52] <brkamikaze> drbreen_: www.linuxfromscratch.org
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <intelikey> office_ and update ?
[10:52] <Mehercle> Linux from scratch
[10:52] <archangel_> how did you know I was jewish?
[10:52] <office_> ?
[10:52] <brkamikaze> office_: Click on the first button on the toolbar
[10:52] <mynimal> Nevrmind, I found it.
[10:52] <office_> yes
[10:52] <brkamikaze> that should make them appear on the list :)
[10:52] <brkamikaze> archangel_: :O
[10:52] <archangel_> lol
[10:53] <office_> wait a second
[10:53] <archangel_> shalom-ah-lick'm
[10:53] <nonickname> i never have gotten that one
[10:53] <intelikey> tob
[10:53] <archangel_> oops did I sat that right?   lol
[10:53] <brkamikaze> drbreen_: build a full BLFS system at least once and you'll know enough to build almost any freakin' program ever :P
[10:54] <brkamikaze> archangel_: what does it mean?
[10:54] <drbreen_> ah yeah i was just unfamiliar with the abbreviation
[10:54] <office_> brkamikaze:  i was searching on bar libxine and i found: libxine-dev. main1 libxinerama-dev. libxinerama1
[10:54] <drbreen_> but LFS was a frickin awesome idea
[10:55] <intelikey> brkamikaze means "peace be to you."
[10:55] <archangel_> basicly, "hi, how are you"  or hey, whats up.
[10:55] <brkamikaze> office_: try it on the console then
[10:55] <Hail_Spacecake> does kubuntu come with ndiswrapper by default?
[10:55] <brkamikaze> office_: open konsole
[10:55] <intelikey> even if archangel_ doesn't know.
[10:55] <archangel_> intel is right also
[10:55] <brkamikaze> and type
[10:55] <brkamikaze> "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[10:55] <intelikey> :)
[10:56] <Hail_Spacecake> I can't seem to find the program or whereis it
[10:56] <Hail_Spacecake> but there's a listing for locate ndiswrapper
[10:56] <archangel_> lahitri ot  <-----   pop quiz     intelikey
[10:56] <Hail_Spacecake> somewhere deep in /lib/modules
[10:56] <office_> libxine-extracodecs packet is missing
[10:57] <brkamikaze> what is ndiswrapper?
[10:57] <intelikey> no sorry
[10:57] <Hail_Spacecake> a driver wrapper for windows wlan cards
[10:57] <archangel_> "see ya later"
[10:57] <office_> brkamikaze: Pachetul libxine-extracodecs is missing
[10:57] <brkamikaze> office_: try enabling multiverse too
[10:58] <brkamikaze> maybe it's in there
[10:58] <office_> it is enabled
[10:58] <office_> all is enabled
[10:58] <office_> i`m a stupid newbie
[10:58] <office_> sorry
[10:58] <office_> but i enabled universe and multiverse
[10:59] <mynimal> Anyone have any luck with those msstyle loaders?
[10:59] <brkamikaze> mynimal: ?
[10:59] <brkamikaze> are there any msstyle loader for KDE:
[10:59] <brkamikaze> ?
[10:59] <mynimal> I just came accross some over at KDE-Look/KDE-Apps.
[10:59] <mynimal> Yeah, I think.
[10:59] <mynimal> But I tried one and ended up formatting my hard drive.
[10:59] <archangel_> not leaving after all
[10:59] <mynimal> There's another one though, not sure if I should try it.
[10:59] <archangel_> sorry for the tease
[11:00] <brkamikaze> office_: and if you ran apt-get update then it should've appeared in the list
[11:00] <brkamikaze> archangel_: =o
[11:00] <brkamikaze> =p
[11:01] <office_> brkamikaze: but why it is sayng that file is missing?
[11:01] <mynimal> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=15614
[11:01] <mynimal> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13010 This is what made me format :P
[11:01] <archangel_> anyone jewish here?
[11:01] <brkamikaze> office_: either it doesn't exist on the information apt-get has or it isn't downloaded and apt-get is failing to do so
[11:02] <rolando> hi
[11:02] <intelikey> not orthodox
[11:02] <rolando> how can i configure my printer when its not in the list of the HPs?
[11:02] <archangel_> me either
[11:02] <office_> when apt-get is working i don`t get any failed message
[11:02] <office_> brkamikaze:  when apt-get is working i don`t get any failed message
[11:02] <rolando> im trying to add printer, but mine its not in the list
[11:02] <rolando> :(
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> rolando,  google for that printer and see what others do to configure it.
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> proberly a clone of some older one
[11:03] <archangel_> ok guys really leaving now
[11:03] <brkamikaze> office_: libxine-extracodecs is on multiverse
[11:03] <brkamikaze> to enable multiverse, you need to create a new line, because it isn't commented on the file
[11:03] <brkamikaze> just copy the universe file and change the universe word to multiverse
[11:04] <archangel_> lahitri ot
[11:04] <office_> brkamikaze:  what line
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> cant ya just append multiverse after 'universe' ?
[11:04] <intelikey> brkamikaze new line???  just add multiverse to the main
[11:04] <nonickname_> anyone know where i can get help with loading a pxe from a network?
[11:05] <brkamikaze> Dr_Willis: I used the first method :P
[11:05] <brkamikaze> office_: never mind, just type "multiverse" after "universe" on the repository list
[11:06] <intelikey> one line is all i use.
[11:06] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[11:06] <intelikey> why repete
[11:06] <office_> brkamikaze: ok don`t say that i`m an idiot but where is repository list
[11:06] <intelikey> why repete ?
[11:06] <intelikey> why repete ?    :)
[11:06] <brkamikaze> intelikey: I just sticked with the already-used style so I just created a new line
[11:07] <brkamikaze> office_: open Adept
[11:07] <aliasfred> repeat you mean ? :)
[11:07] <office_> i did
[11:07] <aliasfred> french ?
[11:07] <brkamikaze> go to View->Manage
[11:07] <office_> yes
[11:08] <intelikey> brkamikaze ok.  i'm just razzing ya.   this is of course linux.  there is your way my way and another way,  but never a 'right way'
[11:08] <brkamikaze> office_: right click the line just below the comment that tells you about the universe repository
[11:08] <brkamikaze> it looks like
[11:09] <brkamikaze> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[11:09] <brkamikaze> the url may be different for you
[11:09] <brkamikaze> on the menu choose Enable
[11:09] <brkamikaze> then click on the "universe" word and right after it type multiverse
[11:09] <office_> ok i changed all lines : main restricted universe multiverse
[11:09] <office_> it is ok?
[11:09] <brkamikaze> office_: click Apply and next click Close
[11:10] <brkamikaze> office_: how does the line look like?
[11:10] <Kronos> Damn POS webcam...
[11:10] <office_> done
[11:10] <brkamikaze> "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse"?
[11:10] <office_> i think it is working
[11:10] <brkamikaze> office_: now click on the first button on the toolbar
[11:11] <office_> i did that command on konsole and it is downloading now
[11:11] <brkamikaze> office_: great
[11:11] <intelikey> yay for konsole
[11:11] <intelikey> !cli
[11:11] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:12] <office_> brkamikaze:  it is any problem because i set all lines from repository  main restricted universe multiverse  ?
[11:13] <brkamikaze> office_: no problem
[11:13] <office_> ok
[11:13] <office_> ok it is instaled
[11:14] <brkamikaze> now you can play mp3 and most codecs
[11:14] <intelikey> office_ i have in time past had trubble with either src-deb security or sec-dev updates   and multiverse.    if it fails to fetch the package list for one of those just drop the multi*
[11:14] <office_> heh
[11:14] <office_> ok my movies working
[11:14] <office_> one more question
[11:14] <office_> i have lan from home to work
[11:14] <office_> on computer from work i have windows and VNC
[11:14] <draik> How do I install my scanner?
[11:15] <office_> it is any way to connect from ubuntu with vnc to that workstation?>
[11:15] <intelikey> otherwise main restricted universe multiverse   is good for all 6 line
[11:15] <brkamikaze> draik: it *should* work out-of-the-box
[11:15] <draik> brkamikaze, it's not being recognized
[11:15] <brkamikaze> draik: Kooka isn't cooperating?
[11:16] <draik> Canon Cano-Scan D646u
[11:16] <intelikey> office_ man tightvnc
[11:16] <office_> thx
[11:16] <draik> It's only picking up my webcam
[11:16] <intelikey> unplug/replug   (assumes usb)
[11:16] <brkamikaze> intelikey: does Kooka use a SANE backend?
[11:17] <draik> it is USB
[11:17] <intelikey> brkamikaze i think so.   but i don't use a GUI  why you asking me ?
[11:18] <brkamikaze> intelikey: maybe you just knew :)
[11:18] <office_> intelikey: it says that tightvnc viewer is instaled
[11:18] <intelikey> i've seen kooka a total of two times    :)
[11:18] <office_> but i dunno from where to launch
[11:18] <brkamikaze> I don't have a scanner, so I don't know much to help
[11:18] <intelikey> office_ konsole.    that's why i said   'man tightvnc'  first.
[11:19] <draik> brkamikaze, thanks for your help
[11:19] <draik> intelikey, thanks for your help
[11:19] <intelikey> brkamikaze me either.
[11:19] <office_> intelikey: it says that there is no manual for tightvnc
[11:19] <intelikey> draik welcome
[11:19] <intelikey> hmmmm second.
[11:21] <brkamikaze> draik: welcome
[11:21] <ravenous> anyone use codeine? everytime i open a new movie the video settings switch back to the defaults, how do I make my settings default?
[11:24] <office_> intelikey: it was not instaled java
[11:24] <office_> not it is working
[11:24] <office_> now
[11:24] <Kronos> Ok....
[11:24] <office_> intelikey: brk
[11:24] <Martijn81> ravenous: my settings for xine in codeine keep present
[11:24] <office_> intelikey: brkamikaze thanks for help
[11:24] <Kronos> I need some help with EasyCam2
[11:24] <Phoul> Hello, is there something wrong with the kubuntu package?
[11:24] <brkamikaze> office_: welcome
[11:24] <intelikey> office_ kewl.  i had a reset so i missed what ever it was.
[11:24] <Kronos> "ImportError: No module named gnome.ui"
[11:24] <Phoul> the kubuntu-desktop*
[11:24] <Phoul> Im having a issue trying to install it
[11:25] <Martijn81> ravenous: i have version 1.0
[11:25] <Phoul> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:25] <Phoul>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[11:25] <Phoul> E: Broken packages
[11:25] <Kr4t05> I need some help with EasyCam2. I get this error message when I run it. "ImportError: No module named gnome.ui"
[11:25] <brkamikaze> Phoul: append kdegraphics-kfile-plugins to your installation command
[11:25] <intelikey> never use a kernel with broken fbcon  and access fb    unless you can reboot in the dark.
[11:26] <Phoul> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:26] <Phoul>   kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler1-qt (>= 0.5.1) but it is not going to be installed
[11:26] <Phoul> E: Broken packages
[11:26] <brkamikaze> :O
[11:26] <brkamikaze> apt is behaving weirdly
[11:26] <Phoul> And that requires libpoppler version what dont exist
[11:26] <Phoul> :-\
[11:27] <Riddell> Phoul: what sources?
[11:27] <Phoul> Riddell, meaning?
[11:27] <brkamikaze> Dr_Willis: do you know anything about this?
[11:27] <office_> it is any way on kubuntu to see shared files fromwindows systems?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Phoul: repos
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> brkamikaze,  other then that  Phoul  has been fighting it all day. :P
[11:27] <Riddell> Phoul: where are you getting your packages from
[11:27] <Phoul> Umm these packages are from...
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> and it just seems to be his kde stuff thats getting messed up
[11:27] <Riddell> office_: smb:// in konqueror
[11:27] <brkamikaze> Dr_Willis: :O
[11:28] <Phoul>  http://se.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[11:28] <Phoul> thats for libpoppler
[11:28] <Riddell> Phoul: try  sudo apt-get install libpoppler1-qt
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Riddell: ive been seeing that all over dapper today (depends issues) ubuntu/xubuntu
[11:28] <Riddell> see what it complains about
[11:28] <Phoul> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:28] <Phoul>   libpoppler1-qt: Depends: libpoppler1 (= 0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:28] <Phoul> E: Broken packages
[11:28] <Phoul> and that version dont exist
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Phoul: are you sure your on dapper?
[11:28] <Phoul> gnomefreak, lmao yes
[11:29] <Kr4t05> Phoul: can you sudo apt-get -f install
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:29] <intelikey> Phoul i sujest you run this;   sudo apt-update && sudo apt-get install -f        it shouldn't take long and can't hurt anything.   'might fix it too but i make no promice'
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> you sure!?!
[11:29] <Phoul> Yes rotfl
[11:29] <Kr4t05> I need some help with EasyCam2. I get this error message when I run it. "ImportError: No module named gnome.ui"
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Phoul: check it again please
[11:29] <Phoul> gnomefreak, check what again
[11:29] <brkamikaze> Phoul: paste the output of "lsb_release -c"
[11:29] <gnomefreak> nvm its a 7
[11:30] <Riddell> Phoul: what does `apt-cache policy libpoppler1` say?
[11:30] <Phoul> Codename:       dapper
[11:30] <intelikey> he may have a breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list  ???
[11:30] <gnomefreak> 0.5.3-0ubuntu7 = edgy
[11:30] <brkamikaze> :O
[11:30] <gnomefreak> its a patch7 in edgy not 1
[11:30] <intelikey> or an edgy ^
[11:30] <Phoul> $ apt-cache policy libpoppler1
[11:30] <Phoul> libpoppler1:
[11:30] <Phoul>   Installed: 0.5.3-0ubuntu1
[11:30] <Phoul>   Candidate: 0.5.3-0ubuntu1
[11:30] <Phoul>   Version table:
[11:30] <Phoul>  *** 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 0
[11:30] <Phoul>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:30] <gnomefreak> dappers is 1
[11:30] <Phoul>      0.5.1-0ubuntu7 0
[11:30] <Phoul>         500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper> anyone using 3.5.4 and noticed a speed increase in starting apps etc???
[11:31] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[11:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:31] <Riddell> Phoul: is that all?
[11:31] <brkamikaze> TheGateKeeper: I wanna know how to install the 3.5.4 packages
[11:31] <Phoul> Riddell, uhh yeah
[11:31] <brkamikaze> but it surely has speed improvements
[11:31] <Riddell> Phoul: you've somehow managed to get a newer version of libpoppler1 installed without it being available to apt
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Phoul: have you tried sudo apt-get -f install?
[11:31] <Hawkwind> brkamikaze: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main
[11:31] <Phoul> gnomefreak, yeah
[11:31] <Phoul> Riddell, :-\ weired
[11:32] <intelikey> so remove it ?
[11:32] <Phoul> umm
[11:32] <gnomefreak> let me guess Phoul you have compiz/xgl repos?
[11:32] <Phoul> that removes ubuntu-desktop and other things
[11:32] <Riddell> Phoul: yes, try removing it and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:32] <Phoul> gnomefreak, i had them yeah i took em out yesterday
[11:32] <office_> ok guys now KUBUNTU ROCKS!
[11:32] <gnomefreak> thats where it lies
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> brkamikaze: info is on the wiki site I think, 3.5.4 that I am running is on Arch linux, my kubuntu box is still on 3.5.2
[11:32] <Riddell> ah, gnomefreak may be onto something
[11:32] <office_> now kubuntu can do everything what i need
[11:32] <Phoul> gnomefreak, i figured as much lmao
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Riddell: shes been screwing crap up alot lately
[11:32] <intelikey> office_ no more than before, but now you rock with it.  :)
[11:32] <Riddell> office_: thanks
[11:33] <Phoul> gnomefreak, anyway to fix this
[11:33] <gnomefreak> i understand they are miostakes but most issues the last week have been compiz
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Phoul: remove it and than install it
[11:33] <Phoul> umm tell me if this is a issue please
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Phoul: make sure the compiz xgl repos are gone first
[11:33] <Phoul> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[11:33] <Phoul>   bluez-cups cupsys cupsys-driver-gutenprint evince hplip libpoppler1
[11:33] <Phoul>   libpoppler1-glib poppler-utils ubuntu-desktop
[11:33] <Phoul> gnomefreak, yeah they are gone
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ok remove those packages than
[11:34] <brkamikaze> wth does libpoppler do?
[11:34] <Phoul> Thats not a big deal is it gnomefreak ?
[11:34] <intelikey> Phoul no, considering they will  be replaced.
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Phoul: not really because when you use sudo apt-get install just add the removed paclkages back
[11:34] <Kr4t05> !info kde-3.5.4
[11:34] <ubotu> Package kde-3.5.4 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:34] <intelikey> kde will add them
[11:35] <Kr4t05> !kde-3.5.4
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop should bring backt he cups and bluz
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <brkamikaze> !info kde
[11:35] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[11:35] <brkamikaze> !info kdelibs-bin
[11:35] <ubotu> kdelibs-bin: core binaries for all KDE applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 795 kB, installed size 2488 kB
[11:36] <intelikey> /msg ubotu info in piivate
[11:36] <Phoul> Cool its fixed
[11:37] <Phoul> :D
[11:37] <Phoul> is there a difference between kubuntu-desktop & kde?
[11:37] <intelikey> not much iirc
[11:37] <Phoul> is one plain kde?
[11:37] <brkamikaze> Phoul: kubuntu-desktop includes everything kubuntu includes
[11:37] <brkamikaze> kde includes only the vanilla kde
[11:38] <intelikey> both are meta packages that require   kde-core+++
[11:38] <Blissex> Phoul: just ask APT for the dependencies of both...
[11:38] <intelikey> kde depends on over 400 packages
[11:39] <brkamikaze> kubuntu-desktop probably depends on 500
[11:39] <brkamikaze> it included katapult, amarok, konversation, etc
[11:39] <intelikey> i haven't checked...
[11:41] <intelikey> apt-cache show kde >  This metapackage includes all the official modules that are released with
[11:41] <intelikey>  KDE. In addition to the core KDE modules, this includes multimedia,
[11:41] <intelikey>  networking, personal information manager (PIM), graphics, education, games,
[11:41] <intelikey>  web development, system administration tools, and other artwork and
[11:41] <intelikey>  utilities. This package does not depend on development packages.
[11:41] <willou> franais?
[11:41] <NickGarvey> !fr
[11:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:41] <NickGarvey> :)
[11:44] <intelikey> hehhe among the dependancies for kubuntu-desktop are: unzip, usplash, vorbis-tools, wlassistant, wvdial, x-ttcidfont-conf, x-window-system-core, xcursor-themes, xkeyboard-config, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, xterm, zip
[11:44] <office_> another question: ii heared about one windows emulator, for windows softare runing on ubuntu
[11:45] <brkamikaze> office_: wine
[11:45] <intelikey> cadega ?
[11:45] <brkamikaze> but the ubuntu package is outdated
[11:45] <brkamikaze> www.winehq.org
[11:45] <intelikey> wine is wine is not an emulator
[11:45] <brkamikaze> it is just a bit tricky to configure
[11:45] <brkamikaze> intelikey: cedega is payware
[11:45] <intelikey> wine "is not an emulator"
[11:46] <intelikey> api!=emu
[11:46] <brkamikaze> office_: wine can run many programs
[11:46] <brkamikaze> check http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:46] <office_> ok
[11:46] <intelikey> yes  wine is good, don't get me wrong.  but it's no emulator
[11:46] <office_> thx
[11:47] <office_> i see
[11:47] <Hawkwind> # Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)
[11:47] <Hawkwind> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[11:47] <Hawkwind> You can get the latest wine packages by adding that to your sources.list
[11:47] <office_> i`m instaling it fromadept
[11:47] <office_> it is ok, right?
[11:47] <Blissex> Phoul: comm -3 <(apt-cache depends kde|sort) <(apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop|sort)
[11:48] <intelikey> and pull in edgy packages?     lol
[11:48] <Phoul> huh?
[11:48] <brkamikaze> office_: abort that installation
[11:48] <brkamikaze> the package from ubuntu is obsolete
[11:48] <Hawkwind> intelikey: No, it's from dapper if you read
[11:48] <Blissex> Phoul: try...
[11:48] <brkamikaze> add that line Hawkwind sent and then install :)
[11:48] <Phoul> try what?
[11:48] <Blissex> Phoul: that line
[11:49] <intelikey> Hawkwind i read, just pointing to eriler issue  ^
[11:49] <Hawkwind> If tested and good sources are used, that won't happen.  That wine source is thoroughly tested
[11:50] <office_> nad to downoad wine from that site?
[11:50] <office_> and
[11:50] <brkamikaze> office_: add that line to your sources.list
[11:51] <brkamikaze> open the repository editor, paste that line on the text field and click "Add"
[11:51] <brkamikaze> then just update the list and you'll install the most recent winer version
[11:51] <intelikey> winery
[11:52] <intelikey> wineo
[11:52] <intelikey> winer
[11:52] <intelikey> hmmmmm
[11:53] <phreakys> hello
[11:53] <office_> after paste it on new line i get the same files after search on adept
[11:53] <phreakys> im desperate. fglrx drivers just keep on bugging ;(
[11:53] <phreakys> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:53] <phreakys> sometimes it boots up with xgl but fglrxinfo allways keeps on saying this
[11:53] <phreakys> also dri is missing
[11:53] <Hawkwind> office_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[11:54] <phreakys> anyone plz help
[11:54] <caseyb> is there any really good information on getting compiz to run with kde?
[11:55] <brkamikaze> caseyb: the wiki
[11:55] <phreakys> ive got it running here
[11:55] <Hawkwind> !compiz
[11:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:55] <caseyb> :) thanks
[11:55] <phreakys> on the compiz site is an installation script to get it running
[11:56] <phreakys> http://www.compiz.net/topic-689-xgl-kubuntu-automatic-xgl-installation
[11:56] <phreakys> works pretty good
[11:56] <phreakys> im just messing with my fglrx drivers ;(
[11:57] <soulrider> hi
[11:58] <office_> ok, now it is downloading wine
[11:59] <draik> Is there a version of the PDF creator for linux?
[12:00] <draik> I want to modify a PDF I created
[12:01] <srdjant> is it safe to remove pcmcia card if drivers for device have been removed? (but not pcmcia drivers)
[12:02] <routh> is there a native ubuntu utility that will help me configure alsa and determine the appropriate module for my sound card like alsaconf?
[12:03] <intelikey> thats why i don't like pdf      draik
[12:03] <Babble> oh, pish.
[12:03] <Babble> Adobe fully documents the PDF spec.
[12:04] <Babble> there's no reason the Open Source community can't make something as fully-featured as Acrobat for editing PDF.
[12:04] <Babble> they just haven't chosen to do so yet.
[12:04] <draik> intelikey, what do you use instead? If anything
[12:04] <zorgluuu> ya une page pour setup kubuntu en xgl non ?
[12:04] <zorgluuu> sorry wrong channel
[12:04] <intelikey> because we don't like pdf to begin with ?
[12:04] <brkamikaze> !fr
[12:04] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:05] <brkamikaze> bad guess :P
[12:05] <intelikey> draik rtf if i must include pics     or even html
[12:05] <draik> hmmmm
[12:05] <Stardog> anyone knows how to configure a printer to kubuntu? the "add" - way doesn't work for me.
[12:05] <zorgluuu> brandon_, nope, it was a good one :)
[12:05] <draik> ok
[12:06] <draik> I guess I'm up poop creek w/o a paddle
[12:06] <routh> anyone?
[12:06] <irrelevant> draik: scribus might do http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribus
[12:06] <zorgluuu> nope brandon but brandon_
[12:06] <brkamikaze> zorgluuu: :O
[12:06] <Babble> draik: you'll likely need the source documents anyway.
[12:06] <zorgluuu> pff brkamikaze is hard for the tab completion :)
[12:06] <draik> I created the PDF
[12:06] <Babble> PDF, like PostScript before it, uses a line-based text composer.
[12:07] <Babble> you'll not have paragraph-based text flows or stuff you're used to.
[12:07] <Phoul> irrelevant, where do you get scribus
[12:07] <draik> Babble, I have the original files in ODT, but wanted to put them into PDF with bookmarks
[12:07] <surgy> hey anyone have a decent mirror for kubuntu?
[12:07] <intelikey> routh  lshw   should give info on the card  and just modprobe the driver should pretty much config alsa for you.
[12:07] <routh> thanks
[12:07] <Babble> You should be able to set PDF bookmarks before exporting.
[12:07] <irrelevant> Phoul: 'apt-get install scribus'
[12:07] <draik> surgy, kubuntu the OS?
[12:08] <routh> figures I'd get an answer faster in here than in ubuntu
[12:08] <surgy> draik: yes
[12:08] <intelikey> surgy nl.ubuntu.com     or   us.   or   uk.   .....
[12:08] <surgy> draik: the website is being really slow right now
[12:08] <draik> LOL, when Phoul said irrelevant, I was thinking, How is scribus irrelevant?
[12:08] <CUM_SIURAN> how do I configure an internet connection from the command line?
[12:08] <draik> surgy, why not go the torrent route?
[12:09] <surgy> draik........i dont know
[12:09] <zorgluuu> btw http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/xgl/kde this page is in french but i didnt found any english one even close to this . this is explaining how to install xgl for kubuntu