[12:57] <Riddell> anyone doing ubuntu weekly newsletter this week?
[01:00] <LaserJock> have no idea
[02:06] <Burgundavia> Riddell, LaserJock: yes, myself, but I will working on it later
[02:07] <Burgundavia> feel free to work on it
[10:15] <rob> hey, is the wiki down at the moment?
[10:26] <poningru> yeah
[10:26] <poningru> cant do uwn :(
[11:21] <mdke> nixternal: I didn't say it was acceptable, you asked why so I told you
[08:42] <fredl> is anybody here with access to www.ubuntu.com ?
[08:43] <Burgundavia> fredl: yes, what is the issue?
[08:43] <fredl> Burgundavia, yesterday I helped somebody solve the xorg problem, he only had access to a http proxy server.
[08:44] <Burgundavia> yep
[08:44] <fredl> The document at http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue could be updated to have 'export http_proxy=http://server:port' in there so people who only have access through a proxy can upgrade the server
[08:46] <fredl> most people don't know that apt supports that, although I'm not sure many people will read that page from textmode.
[08:47] <Burgundavia> right
[08:47] <Burgundavia> can you file a bug against ubuntu-website?
[08:47] <Burgundavia> I am not really wanting to change that page
[08:48] <fredl> sure I can, but how come you don't want to?
[08:48] <Burgundavia> because I didn't create or edit that page
[08:48] <Burgundavia> and I don't have time to test what you just said, so I won't add it
[08:49] <trappist> I didn't know apt respected http_proxy - I thought it had to be configured specifically for apt
[08:50] <Burgundavia> trappist: indded
[08:51] <fredl> trappist - nope, it works. I dunno if #ubuntu is logged, but you can check it in the log if it's there. The guy was going through pains to get the newest xorg through his iPod, and I told him to just export http_proxy instead and it worked.
[08:51] <trappist> fredl: I have logs, but... please feel free to file that bug yourself.  I file bugs all the time on things I have no involvement in.
[08:51] <fredl> anyway, where do I file a bug against ubuntu-website?
[08:52] <Burgundavia> on launchpad, against the product ubuntu-website
[08:55] <fredl> hmm can't find that package...
[08:58] <fredl> ok filed.
[08:58] <fredl> ciao
[09:44] <Burgundavia> crimsun: you around?
[10:47] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[10:47] <nalioth> is the wiki undergoing downtime or something?
[11:06] <nalioth> is there anyone here?
[11:06] <LaserJock> kinda
[11:06] <nalioth> the *#&&@#$($ bug reporting site won't let me file a bug
[11:07] <LaserJock> and I have no idea
[11:19] <mdke> the wiki works fine for me
[11:19] <mdke> it was down yesterday but is up since this morning
[11:20] <nalioth> i just got a wildly colored moinmoin breakdown.  i filed a bug
[11:21] <mdke> you got a traceback?
[11:22] <mdke> where did you file the bug, and do you know what caused the problem?
[11:23] <mdke> is it like bug 57894?
[11:23] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57894 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu Wiki Error: "IndexErrorstring index out of range"" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/57894
[11:23] <nalioth> why am i getting an email for the bug i filed?
[11:24] <mdke> that's how the bug tracker works, it sends you email
[11:24] <nalioth> mdke:  it's number 57920
[11:26] <mdke> yes, looks the same as the one above
[11:26] <nalioth> i didn't understand the above description, or i'd have confirmed it instead of filing a new one
[11:27] <mdke> well, the error is identical
[11:29] <mdke> hopefully someone will look at it soon
[11:30] <nalioth> i prefer plain english descriptions to the above (which i can't understand)
[11:31] <mdke> jolly good
[11:43] <nalioth> ok, "This bug is not an ubuntu error."  WHERE does one file bugs against the websites ?
[11:45] <LaserJock> the ubuntu website
[11:45] <LaserJock> ?
[11:45] <LaserJock> I think that is ubuntu-website
[11:45] <nalioth> LaserJock: that doesnt work, seveas suggested it
[11:46] <Seveas> nalioth, I gave you the complete url later on
[11:46] <Seveas> /products/ubuntu-website/+filebug
[11:47] <nalioth> Seveas: ty
[12:02] <crimsun> Burgundavia: pong