[01:07] <poningru> frack
[01:07] <poningru> the uwn
[01:07] <poningru> anyone doing it or no?
[01:07] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue11?highlight=%28newsletter%29
[01:13] <poningru> someone wanna do a bit about ubucon
[02:06] <Burgundavia> poningru: I will be, but not until later
[02:06] <Burgundavia> feel free to work on it
[02:08] <poningru> Burgundavia: dude how do you get the new applications in edgy?
[02:08] <poningru> my malonefu is not uptofar
[02:08] <poningru> all these years of bugzillafu improvements dont help
[02:09] <poningru> err the list of new applications in edgy
[02:11] <poningru> also are we doing a number on the ubucon?
[02:12] <poningru> since it wasnt technically this week
[02:12] <poningru> it was last week
[02:28] <jdong> oh boy... I know you guys are gonna hate me for suggesting this, but here we go....
[02:28] <jdong> UWN #11 is surprisingly silent about the xorg breakage
[02:28] <jdong> I think the issue deserves mention in the Ubuntu newsletter :-/
[02:28] <jdong> btw thanks for the Backports mention in the newsletter
[02:29] <poningru> Burgundavia: /me is gonna add the xserver stuff
[02:30] <poningru> cant believe /me forgot about that
[02:34] <jdong> thanks :)
[05:24] <Burgundavia> poningru: sounds good. I will be working on it in about 2 hours, for a midnight PST release
[05:25] <Madpilot> hi Burgundavia
[05:25] <Burgundavia> hey Madpilot
[05:32] <elkbuntu> hihi peoples
[05:33] <Burgundavia> hey elkbuntu
[05:33] <elkbuntu> need some help with the UWN?
[05:34] <elkbuntu> give me a holler if you need me
[05:41] <johnlittle> burgundavia: does paul want his name mentioned..the fridge article is attributed to the fridge team
[05:41] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: for which?
[05:41] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: if poningru is not editing, feel free
[05:42] <johnlittle> the sprint article
[05:42] <johnlittle> on UWN 11 it's linked as Paul Sladen's fridge report..on the fridge it's attributed to the fridge team
[05:48] <johnlittle> any ideas for feature of the week?
[06:00] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: we could talk about upstart
[06:00] <Burgundavia> we need to mention that the release schedule for the Knot alpha releases has been set
[06:01] <Burgundavia> or do we have a xubuntu feature?
[06:01] <johnlittle> a xubuntu feature would be cool..i dont have xubuntu though
[06:02] <Burgundavia> I just asked in #xubuntu
[06:20] <johnlittle> I posted a press story, fixed a type, looked for an infamous bug and didn't find one...
[06:20] <johnlittle> er type=typo
[06:22] <johnlittle> not sure how to generate the bug numbers or I'd do that
[06:56] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/25/AR2006082501540.html
[06:56] <johnlittle> check the trivia question..I just added a screenshot to UWN
[07:06] <johnlittle> almost 13,000 Indian high schools migrating to linux - http://www.financialexpress.com/latest_full_story.php?content_id=138497
[07:14] <adamant1988> hello all
[07:46] <Burgundavia_> oh, crap
[07:46] <Burgundavia_> wiki down for anybody else?
[07:46] <Madpilot> yup
[07:47] <Burgundavia> well there goes the UWN schedule
[07:47] <Burgundavia> anybody got a recent copy?
[08:20] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu, poningru, johnlittle: given the wiki is down, do you have a more recent copy I can work from?
[08:21] <elkbuntu> sorry. no :(   i sort of forgot about helping :|
[08:21] <Burgundavia> hey, no worries
[08:21] <Burgundavia> RichJ: have you got a recent copy of the UWN. Wiki is dead
[08:21] <nixternal> can't say that i do
[08:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> say somethign else ;)
[08:22] <nixternal> i was working on release notes as well
[08:22] <nixternal> hehe
[08:22] <Burgundavia> Kamping_Kaiser: my broken record will end when UWN releases
[08:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> Burgundavia, i was refering to nixternal 's 'cant say i do''
[08:23] <Burgundavia> ah
[08:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[08:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> i wouldnt dare give you crap ;)
[08:28] <Burgundavia> <james earl jones voice>that is a good thing</james earl jones voice>
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[08:29] <Burgundavia> I am frustrated,
[08:29] <elkbuntu> i can tell
[08:29] <Burgundavia> I wanted to get UWN out and go to sleep, as I am tired from moving all day
[08:29] <elkbuntu> notice how something goes wrong with the ubuntu sites every weekend? It's like there's little or no redundancy :(
[08:30] <Madpilot> the servers want Sundays off too
[08:30] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: no, because you are my older brother
[08:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, i thought there is no redundancies
[08:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol Madpilot
[08:30] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, right, therefore it's my natural role in the Universe to give you crap :)
[08:30] <Burgundavia> indeed
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[08:31] <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, well i put in the 'little or no' bit because i dont know for sure if there's redundancy or not
[08:31] <elkbuntu> if there is any, it sucks :|
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, afaik theres 1 data cenre, and a few independant servers around the place
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> *centre
[08:32] <Burgundavia> most of the ubuntu stuff is a datacentre in London
[08:33] <Burgundavia> I think montreal might now have some servers as well, but I am not certain
[08:33] <Burgundavia> canonical does a weekend admin (who, afaik, is NOT elmo)
[08:34] <Burgundavia> does have a, rather
[08:36] <Burgundavia> thing is, nobody else can release UWN either, because you need me to pass you through the -news moderation
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> phear the Burgundavia ?
[08:38] <Burgundavia> no, phear the crazy amount of rights I seem to have acquired
[08:38] <poningru> a frack
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> brb
[08:51] <Burgundavia> ok, cd is done. I am going to bed
[08:55] <elkbuntu> sleep well corey
[08:56] <Madpilot> night
[08:57] <Burgundavia> I just hope  the wiki comes live at some point
[10:07] <elkbuntu> im glad corey didnt try wait up for the wiki... he'd be pretty tired by tomorrow :|
[10:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> wiki back?
[10:14] <elkbuntu> no
[10:14] <elkbuntu> that's my point
[10:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> :\
[10:27] <poningru> this sucks
[10:27] <poningru> what was left to be done?
[10:50] <poningru> elkbuntu^^^
[10:55] <elkbuntu> poningru, no idea
[10:56] <elkbuntu> poningru, i got sidetracked and forgot about it
[11:04] <poningru> hmm
[11:06] <poningru> damn it mofo has so much it response system
[11:06] <poningru> you can file a bug and if you mark it critical it pages people...
[11:08] <poningru> err so much better*
[11:12] <poningru> I know right
[11:12] <poningru> jeez I mean wp hosts it in tampa and they rarely go down
[11:18] <poningru> where's the datacenter located?
[11:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> london
[11:22] <Klaidas> Every time I see Kamping_Kaiser I think of a camping Keyser Soze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyser_S%C3%B6ze), lol :)
[11:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> Klaidas, :o just reading hte page now :)
[11:32] <mdke> the machine that hosts the wiki is up, I don't think it can be blamed on the DC
[11:34] <poningru> it is?
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> Klaidas, cool. i'll remember that as my next identity ;)
[11:35] <Klaidas> :))
[11:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> :))
[11:35] <poningru> woah you are right
[11:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Klaidas, now i suppose i have to find the fijml
[11:36] <poningru> its pinging back
[11:36] <poningru> so the apache is down?
[11:37] <KenSentMe> Hi guys
[11:37] <KenSentMe> And gals
[11:37] <Klaidas> sure you do
[11:37] <Klaidas> it's #16 on IMDB
[11:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi KenSentMe
[11:37] <Klaidas> or 15, I don't know :)
[11:37] <KenSentMe> Can anyone be notified that the wiki is down, or do the wiki people already know?
[11:38] <mdke> I've sent a request
[11:38] <KenSentMe> Ah, k
[11:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> KenSentMe, i hope after almost 6 hours (iirc) they would know :|
[11:38] <KenSentMe> Well, i just woke up, so i've just noticed
[11:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[11:39] <mdke> yeah, there is no point assuming that the admins work 24 hours a day including sundays
[11:40] <poningru> ... get more admins?
[11:40] <poningru> I am sure plenty of people will step up to the plate and volunteer
[11:41] <KenSentMe> poningru: i don't having too many admins is a good idea
[11:41] <poningru> oh?
[11:41] <mdke> poningru: it's not a volunteer job.
[11:41] <poningru> ah...
[11:42] <KenSentMe> For someone to get apache running, means you have to get root/sudo rights. I don't think you should let to many people have root rights to your system
[11:42] <mdke> dude
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[11:42] <mdke> you have to be really special already to get a normal user account to one of those machines
[11:43] <poningru> hehe yeah I would assume
[11:43] <KenSentMe> That's what i mean
[11:43] <mdke> let alone root
[11:43] <KenSentMe> But those are the only ones to get the wiki running again
[11:43] <mdke> yep
[11:44] <elkbuntu> i dare say it's more than needing to restart apache anyway
[12:48] <poningru> I dare say you are right
[12:49] <poningru> so no clue what the problems could be
[01:02] <poningru> anyone have a page of the wiki sitting in their cache?
[01:07] <mdke> poningru: google probably does
[01:07] <poningru> hmm true
[01:08] <mdke> anyway, wiki is working now
[01:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> its come up in hte last few minutes then
[01:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> roxor :D, thanks mdke
[01:09] <poningru> woo
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[01:15] <poningru> anyone know what the favicon link is?
[01:15] <poningru> for ubuntu
[02:31] <elkbuntu> mdke, for next time the wiki is dead, where can we sound the alarm to reduce the downtime?
[02:41] <poningru> mdke: ping
[02:49] <mdke> poningru: pong
[02:50] <mdke> elkbuntu: you can file a request in the admin tracker, I suppose. But generally on a sunday it won't get fixed a lot quicker than that. All the admins are in the same timezone
[02:51] <elkbuntu> admin tracker?
[02:51] <poningru> mdke: I wanted to talk about adding opensearch to wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:51] <poningru> or perhaps to help.ubuntu.com
[02:52] <mdke> elkbuntu: canonical uses a request tracker to maintain admin requests
[02:52] <mdke> poningru: aha, interesting. You would like to improve the moinmoin search utility?
[02:52] <elkbuntu> aha, so not really all that well known?
[02:53] <poningru> mdke: actually its a bit different
[02:53] <poningru> opensearch just uses the sites own search
[02:53] <poningru> mdke: using edgy? and ff 2.0?
[02:54] <mdke> elkbuntu: that's right
[02:54] <mdke> poningru: me? no
[02:54] <poningru> crap
[02:54] <poningru> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSearch
[02:54] <poningru> cant demonstrate it to you then
[02:55] <mdke> poningru: if you compose an email to the -doc list about it, it might be easier to discuss
[02:55] <mdke> I'm all in favour of improving the wiki search
[02:55] <poningru> but... its not for improving search
[02:55] <mdke> ah, it sounds like it is
[02:55] <poningru> it just creates an easy way for people to add a search bar engine to firefox
[02:56] <mdke> "It is a way for websites and search engines to publish search results in a standard and accessible format"
[02:56] <poningru> right
[02:56] <elkbuntu> wtf.. the cd labels on the DIY marketing page are old
[02:56] <poningru> mdke: it just uses the websites own search functionality
[02:57] <mdke> poningru: sounds interesting anyway
[02:57] <poningru> sweet
[02:57] <poningru> err webmasters
[02:57] <mdke> maybe we could use it on the website to show search results from wiki.u.c and help.u.c directly in the website search
[02:58] <poningru> ooh too true
[02:58] <poningru> I was thinking opening them up in different tabs
[02:58] <mdke> that is something the webmaster is looking at. Definitely compose an email about it
[02:58] <poningru> but your way sounds better
[02:59] <poningru> mdke: webmaster@ubuntu.com?
[02:59] <elkbuntu> ah.. me looked in the wrong part of the diy page... phew
[03:02] <mdke> poningru: actually the best thing would be to file a bug on ubuntu-website, if you think a bug is appropriate. Otherwise, the -doc mailing list (until we have a public website list)
[03:03] <poningru> ah ok
[03:03] <poningru> than the mailing list
[04:56] <johnlittle> ah the wiki lives
[07:16] <johnlittle> woo tons of new ubuntu vids showing up this morning  - http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ubuntu_powered_automatic_cat_feeder
[07:21] <Burgundavia> UWN being written offline, due to wiki issues
[07:23] <johnlittle> yeah i saved a copy after my morning edit
[07:23] <johnlittle> just in case
[07:33] <nixternal> johnlittle: those linux.com vids are enough to cause you to commit suicide
[07:34] <johnlittle> no love for the limo?
[07:34] <nixternal> nope, and never will
[07:34] <nixternal> he is so far up RMS's tail it isn't even funny
[07:35] <johnlittle> yeah but he's been supportive of UV which is good..maybe some press in the future..who knows
[07:35] <nixternal> but then again..i think all the old shool hackers are like that
[07:35] <Burgundavia> nixternal: linux.com videos?
[07:35] <Burgundavia> limo?
[07:35] <nixternal> hehe
[07:35] <johnlittle> roblimo..the executive editor at ostg..slashdot/linux.com etc
[07:35] <nixternal> limo, i forgot he owns his own limo service..that is how that started
[07:36] <johnlittle> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/linux_com_ubuntu_videos
[07:36] <nixternal> are the blender movies ubuntu related at all?
[07:36] <johnlittle> UV also showcases open source vids
[07:36] <Burgundavia> ah, him
[07:38] <johnlittle> re the blender vids. I can only post what I can find. That's why I asked for recommendations via the ML
[07:41] <johnlittle> I got some more stuff in the works today. I'm working with the Captorials developer to make those available via UV. His screencast concept is pretty cool and its getting good press.
[07:41] <johnlittle> http://captorials.com/
[07:42] <johnlittle> He might be able to get me a feed of all the ubuntu related tutorials that are created.
[07:59] <johnlittle> burgundavia: need help with UWN?
[08:04] <johnlittle> burgundavia: need help with UWN?
[08:04] <Burgundavia> can you think of a feature of the week?
[08:04] <Burgundavia> that is the last major piece to be written
[08:12] <johnlittle> hrm
[08:12] <johnlittle> thinking
[08:15] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: Epiphany?
[08:16] <Burgundavia> did GNOME last week
[08:17] <johnlittle> nixternal: ping
[08:17] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: guess the xubuntu peeps never replied?
[08:18] <Burgundavia> not that I saw
[08:18] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: Inkscape?
[08:18] <nixternal> pong
[08:18] <Burgundavia> nixternal: you got a kubuntu thing we can feature?
[08:18] <johnlittle> nixternal: hey kde guru..wanna do a kde feature of the week?
[08:19] <nixternal> im running here, but if i was to pick one, it would be Amarok
[08:19] <nixternal> 1.4.2 kicks arse!
[08:19] <nixternal> gotta go... ;)
[08:19] <Burgundavia> right, would prefer a dapper one
[08:19] <nixternal> already did a kde one..we need a xubuntu ap...pick thunar
[08:20] <Burgundavia> right
[08:20] <Burgundavia> can you write that up? I have never used thunar
[08:20] <nixternal> im going to a party...see if crimsun is around
[08:20] <Burgundavia> paste me the writeup, because the wiki is currently having issues
[08:28] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: are you getting that thunar article, or should I?
[08:28] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: I know nothing about it but I can write a summary based of the web site
[08:28] <johnlittle> off
[08:29] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[08:29] <Burgundavia> a couple of sentences are ok
[08:29] <johnlittle> Do we need a screenshot?
[08:31] <johnlittle> arght he freaking wiki is down again?
[08:31] <johnlittle> ahh nm
[09:11] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: ok, now needs a proofing
[09:12] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: checking
[09:17] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: PlaysForSure points to a empty wiki
[09:17] <Burgundavia> right, break that out
[09:17] <Burgundavia> you can make that a non wiki with ```
[09:22] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: how do I do that?
[09:22] <Burgundavia> Plays``For``Sure
[09:24] <johnlittle> thought so..was a tick off...done
[09:30] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: done editing?
[09:30] <johnlittle> yep
[09:31] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: yep
[09:31] <Burgundavia> cheers
[09:49] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: think we are good to go?
[09:50] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: I think so..read through it and tested all the links
[09:50] <Burgundavia> ok, perfect
[09:50] <Burgundavia> I did some wording changes
[09:51] <johnlittle> looks good from here
[09:52] <Burgundavia> sent and done
[09:53] <johnlittle> about time ;)
[09:54] <Burgundavia> UWN main page updated
[09:54] <Burgundavia> ok, now I need actually get out of bed and do useful stuff today
[09:54] <johnlittle> would it be worthwhile for me to set up a development wiki on ubuntuvideo...I'm never down
[09:55] <johnlittle> lol
[09:56] <johnlittle> Burgundavia: ping
[10:03] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: pong
[10:04] <johnlittle> ^^ would it make sense for me to install a backup dev wiki on UV.com
[10:04] <Burgundavia> hmm, I don't think so, unless you sync every half hour and you make it readonly
[10:05] <johnlittle> Yeah synching would be an issue
[10:31] <Klaidas> hi everyone
[10:32] <Klaidas> hi MenZa  :)
[10:38] <MenZa> hi Klaidas
[10:39] <Klaidas> Flickr \o/
[10:39] <Klaidas> My setup is almost done
[10:44] <Klaidas> By the way, what's in the package?
[10:44] <Klaidas> (your latest photo)
[10:50] <MenZa> perplex city card