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[04:52] sbalneav: ok. [04:52] sbalneav: See info of x86info... I install edubuntu 64? [04:53] Are you saying you DID install it, or are you asking if you NEED to install it? [04:54] sbalneav: Need === e1mer [n=elmer@58.71.13.205] has joined #edubuntu [04:54] sbalneav: need to intall edubuntu 64 bits. [04:55] Yes, you would need to do so. [04:55] Ok, diferences in information of /proc/cpuinfo and x86info [04:56] I read -> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Sempron.2FSempron64_.28AMD.29 and confuse. [04:59] sbalneav: I delete edubuntu 32 bits and install edubuntu 64? [05:00] http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/6.06.1/ [05:01] you want the one that says: [05:01] edubuntu-6.06.1-install-amd64.iso [05:02] Yes, I dude in install edubuntu 64. I now work with edubuntu 32 [05:03] I'm not understanding you. [05:03] Did you install edubuntu-6.06.1-install-amd64.iso? [05:03] I question in install edubuntu 64. I now work with edubuntu 32. (Now you uderstand?) [05:03] No, sorry, I dont understand. [05:04] Not, you not install edubuntu 64. I install edubuntu 32. [05:04] Arght, sorry. [05:04] what cd did you install? 64 bit cd? [05:04] Not, I not install edubuntu 64. I install edubuntu 32. [05:04] ok, wel you need to install 64 bit. [05:05] so download that iso, and install that one. === caravena caravens slow, translate in google_translate... [05:05] download edubuntu-6.06.1-install-amd64.iso [05:05] install [05:05] ok, wel you need to install 64 bit.:::: YES [05:05] then it will work [05:08] sbalneav: ok, My cpu support 64? I revise info in /proc/cpuinfo and not 64.... I read information in -> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Sempron.2FSempron64_.28AMD.29 and not understand. [05:09] Why are you reading a GENTOO site about EDUBUNTU [05:09] two different things [05:11] sbalneav: I want to know if I can install edubuntu 64. Already this working in 32. [05:13] Are you asking me if your processor is a 64 bit cpu? According you what you pasted, it looks like it. But I don't know for sure, because I haven't seen your machine. [05:14] Why don't you try booting with the live 64 bit cd, and see if it works. [05:14] if the 64 bit cd boots, then it should work. === _rjian [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #edubuntu [05:15] sbalneav: Ok, thanks. I now download edubuntu 64 and test. === _rjian is now known as rjian === _rjian [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #edubuntu === _rjian is now known as rjian === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@60-241-255-163.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === _rjian [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #edubuntu === kernel07 [n=pop@c-24-7-82-239.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === kernel07 [n=pop@c-24-7-82-239.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu [] === e1mer [n=elmer@58.71.14.245] has joined #edubuntu === _rjian is now known as rjian === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === sbartleylinux [n=sbartley@sub17-23.member.dsl-only.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:27] Can anyone tell me how to remove the hibernate button from the quit screen from a thin client connection? === _rjian [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #edubuntu === rjian [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #edubuntu [07:54] I understand that Ubuntu LTSP implementation uses ldm instead of gdm. This sets the quit screen to not have shutdown and restart but to still have Hibernate. Anyone know how to turn this off so a thin client user will not be able to hibernate the ltsp server? === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-146-168-87.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === rjian is now known as rjian[O-U-T] === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #edubuntu === \etc\bin [n=elmer@58.71.13.205] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=willvdl@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-146-152-07.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === toosa [n=toosa@202.73.108.83] has joined #edubuntu [09:13] Hi, RichEd [09:13] hi toosa ... === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-192-190.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [09:14] toosa: apologies if you've been neglected ... majorly busy at the moment with planning [09:15] ok [09:16] btw, what is the URL that contain any presentation material for Edubuntu ? [09:16] (I lost it :( ) [09:20] let me look for you ... [09:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy <- school [09:26] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Presentations ... there you go [09:36] thankyou v'much === scythe [n=scythe@p54AFBCA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [09:39] hi [09:40] is it possible to lock the desktop, so that a user can't change icons, wallpaper, menu, ... ? I heard this is called "Kiosk-Mode" in german. [09:45] hi scythe : Edubuntu or Kubuntu ? i.e. GNOME or KDE [09:45] RichEd: edubuntu, also GNOME [09:47] RichEd: sorry, the "also" was german ;) [09:48] start here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158917 [09:49] you'll need to check it out properly for yourself ... i'm quite busy ... but that will point you in the right direction [09:49] RichEd: thx. but this is for KDE, should it work for GNOME? I'm not sure. [09:50] look at the middle response link: See http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/ch10.html [09:50] RichEd: but good to know that its called "kiosk mode" in english too ;) [09:50] Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" uses GNOME 2.14 and Pessulus (see http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/en/rnadmins.html) is included in universe for this purpose. [09:50] okay now ? [09:51] RichEd: yes, thx :) [09:51] :) [09:52] scythe: if you want to make more complex profiles, you need sabayon. If you need to make keys mandatory, you need to run pessulus with suod (which the menu item does not) [09:53] Burgundavia: ah, will have a look at these programs. thx [09:53] no worries === sir_hc [n=somethin@60-240-139-201-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [10:01] hi anyone around? i'm gettong no help in the ubuntu channel [10:01] how do i 'log in' to the rescue prompt? [10:08] bye === scythe [n=scythe@p54AFBCA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] [10:10] sir_hc: open a google page ... input this: [+ubuntu how do i 'log in' to the rescue prompt?] it gives some reasonable looking results [10:11] hmm i tried that, but phrased a little differently [10:11] kk [10:11] btw [10:11] do u knwo of this problem? [10:11] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223265&page=1 [10:11] i know it's technically not edubuntu [10:11] but still... === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === spiekey [n=mario@p5080A4A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [11:20] hello! [11:21] i there some german spelling software, too? [11:21] gun tag spiekey [11:21] have you checked the language packs ? [11:22] i did install the language pack when it asked for it. [11:23] brb [11:23] ok [11:24] spiekey: this one : http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/translations/language-pack-de [11:25] That's all I know about ... === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [11:49] hey there ogra :) === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@19.Red-83-50-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-204-254.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === lurch358 [n=admin@a88-114-152-130.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #edubuntu === lurch358 [n=admin@a88-114-152-130.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #edubuntu [] === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEE7C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === JanisLee [n=JanisLee@201-35-52-14.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-228-64.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD1CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === nrdb [n=neil@202.125.26.177] has joined #edubuntu [02:15] I have installed edubutu on a Virtual Machine I have another ready to boot how do I setup edubuntu to allow the client to boot? [02:16] nrdb, see the channel topic :) === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-228-64.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.248.239.219] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:44] rodarvus, ogra: back from Wiesbaden? [03:44] yep [03:44] yup [03:44] Cool! [03:45] finally :) [03:45] (long travel, etc) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:45] rodarvus: Probably what, around 22 hours? [03:46] yes, not counting going from the hotel to airport, and from airport to my house [03:46] Yeah, it's a long haul. [03:49] Hello [03:51] hello bddebian [03:51] Heya sbalneav === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-235-141.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD1CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === gruntu [n=roy@c-67-167-15-160.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:42] Hello === gruntu [n=roy@c-67-167-15-160.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === gruntu [n=roy@c-67-167-15-160.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:50] hello [04:50] highvoltage, may I grab you for a sec? [04:50] hey gruntu [04:50] I have a couple of questions [04:53] I was trying to configure the server with 1 network card. I modified dhcpd.conf but it fails. Are there other files I should be modifying? === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.226.43.57] has joined #edubuntu === Kaeles [n=Kaeles@doc-24-32-48-14.we.ok.cebridge.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:35] anyone know where i can find the minimim reqs for edubuntu? [05:36] ooooh [05:36] edubuntu is like ltsp? [05:37] niiice [05:37] Kaeles, "like ltsp"? [05:37] but not quite what i was looking for, can you install it as a stand alone? [05:37] well, i noticed that it IS ltsp [05:37] :P [05:37] or uses [05:37] whatever the correct terminology is. [05:38] yes, it can be standalone [05:39] via the workstation installation? [05:40] Kaeles, yup [05:40] cool :D [05:41] any clue what the minimum requirements of a system to run it stand-alone are? [05:41] Kaeles, sec pls :) [05:41] kk thanks [05:42] Kaeles, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/StandAloneHardware [05:42] ouch [05:42] i might try xubuntu [05:42] Kaeles, is it that bad? :P [05:43] i am wanting to give away some computers with linux [05:43] they are 233mhz 64mb ram [05:43] so, i'll try xubuntu [05:44] oki, if you wish [05:44] do you think that edubuntu would work if i replaced the gnome/kde with xfce? [05:44] I would prefer the edubuntu stuff on xubuntu, i'm trying to target families with kids, who can't afford computers. [05:45] Kaeles, install xubuntu, then themes and games for edubuntu [05:45] oh ok [05:45] thanks :) [05:46] i have about 25 extra comps that i've come across, so :P [05:46] :P === kitche [n=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche] has joined #edubuntu [05:46] i'm keeping the faster ones for my cluster though === Kaeles shrugs. [05:47] Thanks for the help though [05:47] :) [05:47] have a good one === Kaeles [n=Kaeles@doc-24-32-48-14.we.ok.cebridge.net] has left #edubuntu [] === bengoodger [n=ben@host81-155-192-36.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu === kitche [n=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche] has left #edubuntu [] [05:48] if anyone in here is interested in doing an APT-based application for networked edubuntu application synching then please join me in #fles === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [05:49] Seveas: can you program? [05:50] bengoodger, don't poke random people :P [05:51] pygi: he hadn't seen my notice === jryer [n=jryer@bolivia.savechildren.org.bo] has joined #edubuntu [05:51] bengoodger: I don't understand what it is you're wanting to do? [05:52] Are you wanting to simply make sure the same app is installed on all machines? [05:52] sbalneav: I amd a colleage have designed a program that will allow a single system administrator to control the applications and configurations that are present per computer group, in a large school (enterprise) setting [05:53] Quick question: Why cannot I change my screen resolution? It is stuck at 640x480! Please help [05:53] jryer: find your monitor's horizontal sync and vertical refresh rates [05:53] jryer: then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to match. [05:54] then press CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE [05:54] bengoodger, Where would I find hsync and v refresh rates? [05:54] jryer: monitor manual, google, etc [05:55] sbalneav: a PDF of the system's structure will shortly be on my site.. [05:55] bengoodger: Well, if you've already got the application, why not just package it up? [05:55] sbalneav: it's been designed, not written [05:55] bengoodger, And this will allow me to select more resolution options when I enter in System-Preferences-ScreenResolution? [05:56] http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk/ben/network-diagram.pdf [05:56] jryer: yes, it should select the best one for you as well [05:57] jryer: good luck finding the values [05:57] bengoodger, I will check into it today...thanks for the help! [05:57] jryer: that's fine [05:57] bengoodger: Ummm, little short on details, yes? :) [05:58] sbalneav, well, it's rough [06:00] You still haven't answered my question: are you talking about syncing apps? Or are you trying to sync user profiles across machines? If it's the second, why not simply set up an NFS server, and mount users home directories from there, so that no matter what machine they log onto, they have the same homedir? [06:01] NFS is part of the network design === sbalneav looks [06:01] Nope, don [06:01] don't see nfs anywhere on there :) [06:01] that document is for the program, not the network design. [06:02] the program deals with ensuring that all computers get the proper packages and configuration files [06:02] yay proxy. === bengoodger removes bur from passing obese cat [06:03] Um, well that's easy: on your "master" machine, do a "dpkg --get-selections > selections.file".... [06:04] Then, on all the rest of the machines: "dpkg --set-selections selections.file && aptitude dist-upgrade" [06:04] that will ensure that all machines have the same apps. [06:05] If you're wanting to make config files sync, just use rsync. [06:05] I don't think you need a whole new program for that, just a couple of shell scripts. [06:05] hmm [06:06] what about the shiny MCSE-compatible gui that writes the profiles? [06:06] writes WHAT profiles? [06:06] user profiles? [06:07] the profiles that define each computer group's packages [06:08] So you're talking about what MENU items/icons each class of users see? [06:09] no, what apt PACKAGE items each class of computers have === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:09] that sounds very much like a fai ripoff [06:10] what the hell is fai? [06:10] bengoodger: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-dynamic-menus [06:10] This might be of interest to you. [06:10] sbalneav: that's great. [06:11] sbalneav: but I want to choose what software to actually install on different classes of machine [06:11] so we don't want pcmcia on desktops, nor wireless drivers [06:11] bengoodger, fai is an ugly set of scripts thats used for mass deployment of workstations/servers whatever that also enables you to do maintenance afterwards through it [06:12] and we might want a certain wireless driver on $TYPE_OF_LAPTOP but not on $OTHER_TYPE_OF_LAPTOP [06:12] its used in most bigger datacenters where they use debian based systems but its very ugly [06:12] ogra_: I doubt from that description that it does what I want [06:12] bengoodger: OK, so you're back to my other suggestion: simply coming up with a few standardized packaged selection lists, and then doing a --set-selections on them. Theres no shiny gui for that, so If you want to write one, that'd be great. [06:12] well, the aintenance part sounds like what you describe ... [06:13] *maintenance [06:13] sbalneav: is there a URL for this --set-selections feature? [06:14] sure, "man dpkg" :) [06:14] man dpkg ;) [06:14] lol [06:14] hrrrrm [06:14] snap [06:14] ogra_, I talked libburn into producing usable dvd's, whee :) [06:14] I wanted something comprehensible, but ok [06:14] pygi, congrats ! [06:14] or, google for "dpkg --get-selections" [06:14] bengoodger, usualy manpages are found via googel as well ;) [06:14] ogra_, with cheating, and MD5 not matching, but all works :) [06:15] thanks ^_^ [06:15] so now make it network aware and sbalneav and i wil implement cd writing in ltsp ;) [06:15] !!!! [06:15] bengoodger: Here's one to get you started: [06:15] network aware library!!! [06:15] http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.en.html [06:15] ok, Get list of package selections, and write it to stdout. isn't helpful [06:16] if i ever go that localdev stuff going ... sigh ... [06:16] ogra_, I never done anything like that, so if you have pointers on how can I do that :) [06:16] bengoodger: How isn't it helpful? [06:16] bengoodger, together with --set-selections it is ;) [06:16] I meant the actual description [06:16] how does the thing work? [06:16] it drops a list of all packages installed to stdout ... [06:17] yu can pipe that into a file === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [06:17] and that's your "package profile" [06:17] --set-selections reads a list in thats format [06:17] *that [06:17] that's "loading" a package profile on another machine. [06:17] ok [06:17] so you can: dpkg --get-selectios > /tmp/tmpfile [06:17] hmm [06:18] dpkg --set-selectios < /tmp/tmpfile [06:18] so this solves about half of the problem [06:18] apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade [06:18] and you are done [06:18] great [06:18] you only need a script with these three lines ;) [06:18] ya [06:19] Then, just use rsync to sync up any config file changes you want between machines. Or, for that matter, just scp. [06:19] so, what happens with the dist-upgrade? [06:19] the packages get installed [06:19] --set-selections simply marks that you WANT those packages [06:19] right [06:19] the dist-upgrade actually installs them [06:19] the computer needs to automatically (sans-user) set itself to be identical to what I will still call the profile [06:20] this means removing packages as well as installing them [06:20] presumably apt can make it do that? [06:21] yes, with the above you can also remove stuff [06:21] by "sans user", are you meaning "end user doesn't need to be involved", or "administrator doesn't need to be involved" [06:21] sbalneav: "nobody needs to be involved" [06:21] i guess he wants a cron script or something [06:21] because totally automating package management with no admin input is a really, REALLY bad idea. [06:21] right [06:21] sbalneav, the admin writes the file [06:22] but the clients need to be able to match themselves to it by themselves [06:22] You can do it, but if something goes wrong for some reason, you can end up with a bunch of broken machines. [06:22] at least one human should be involved and check whats coming down the pipe [06:22] without hand-holding [06:22] ogra I have a couple of questions when you have a minute [06:23] if the system was going to use humans monitoring the whole thing, it defeats the entire object of having automated software-pushing [06:23] it's meant to be so that the admin can write the file, tests it, publishes it, and the computer matches itself to it [06:23] gruntu, i never have time, so now is as good as any other moment ;) just ask away [06:24] bengoodger: Well, you can certainly do it, if you want. [06:24] sbalneav: good, because windows can do it [06:25] bengoodger: heh, yeah sure. My wife just spent a week 3 weeks ago fixing up a failed push that left 120 machines unbootable. It's a bad idea there, and it's a bad idea in Linux too. But, if you're willing to take the risk... you can do it. [06:26] the plan is that the admin tests it extensively before pushing [06:26] thanks - I want to run the edubuntu server with one nic. I modified the dhcpd.conf but it's not working. I don't have any other dhcp running and this server was operating with 2 nics prior. I did run ltsp-update-sshkeys [06:27] Admins tested it extensively on my wife's network as well. Still failed on 5% of the machines. But like I say, it's certainly doable. [06:27] well, windows is a bit crap anyway.. [06:28] thanks for your help, now we just need someone to write the app that writes the profile and distributes the right one to each client [06:28] gruntu, can you paste the output of ifconfig -a and the content of the dhcpd.conf file to a pastebot ? [06:30] (/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf indeed) [06:32] eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0E:A6:BB:1E:B6 [06:32] inet addr:10.9.8.188 Bcast:10.9.8.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 [06:32] inet6 addr: fe80::20e:a6ff:febb:1eb6/64 Scope:Link [06:32] UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 [06:32] RX packets:41764 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 [06:32] TX packets:30405 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 [06:32] collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 [06:32] RX bytes:44733943 (42.6 MiB) TX bytes:12772161 (12.1 MiB) [06:32] Interrupt:201 Base address:0xac00 [06:32] lo Link encap:Local Loopback [06:32] inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 [06:32] inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host [06:32] UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 [06:32] RX packets:73 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 [06:32] TX packets:73 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 [06:32] collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 [06:32] RX bytes:5528 (5.3 KiB) TX bytes:5528 (5.3 KiB) [06:32] Did i do that right before I post the other file? [06:32] gruntu: PASTEBOT, dammit! [06:33] sorry [06:34] that's ok [06:34] bengoodger, dont curse, the first one is for free [06:34] ;) [06:35] ogra_: "damn" is hardly a curse [06:35] gruntu, so now your dhcod.conf at pastebot will suffice ;) [06:35] but meh [06:35] *dhcpd.conf [06:35] !pastebot [06:35] Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:35] i think its pastebin ... [06:35] !pastebin [06:35] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things) [06:35] ;) [06:36] ubotu: pastebot is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things) [06:36] There, now we'll have it with both descriptions [06:36] !pastebot [06:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:36] hmm, must take a bit to add. [06:37] rodarvus, i have a weird phenmenon here ... if i enable local devices in ltsp (so ldm gets some different ssh paramters) i suddenly have no proper keyboard input in X ... i have to switch to tty1 and back to make it work [06:38] there is nothing in the ldm parameters that could cause it ... do you know of any bug in xkb that sounds like that ? [06:38] edubuntu-dynamic-menus has zero chance of being actually implemented in edgy [06:38] featurefreeze is next week [06:39] bengoodger, lets see, LaserJock promised me patches this week [06:39] ogra_, this is, hmm,.... unexpected === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [06:39] do you pass different xorg.conf for both X sessions? (just curious) [06:40] ltsp generates the xorg.conf on boot [06:40] its already there if ldm starts [06:40] i first thought its because i have an usb keyboard and a usb disk attached ... but i see the same behavior on a ps2 keyboard [06:40] pygi: i am here now [06:41] ogra_: Oh, btw, I've been seeing some behavior where the text login is what pops up on the screen first, as opposed to the X in tty7 [06:41] sbalneav, enable sound, that fixes it ;) [06:41] I'm thinking we may want to do a "sleep 3 ; chvt 7" somewhere, to make sure we end up on the X screen [06:41] sbalneav: me too [06:41] there is a race condition somewhere [06:41] Why would sound fix that? [06:41] i'll dig for it after feature freeze [06:42] ah, ok, I'll try to pin it down as well. [06:42] because starting sound delays certain parts of the boot, that avoids the race [06:42] ogra_: just do a SOUND = Y in lts.conf? [06:42] sbalneav, have a look the the ltsp-client initscript ... [06:42] Petaris, SOUND=True [06:42] ok [06:42] but yes [06:43] sbalneav, especially at the usplash stuff there [06:43] morning Edubuntu people [06:43] Ah, usplashy :) [06:43] LaserJock!!!!!!!!!!! [06:43] usplash is responsible for switching to tty1 if it doesnt get killed early enough or doesnt detect GDM [06:43] ogra_: ok [06:43] hey LaserJock [06:44] edubuntu-dynamic-menus? Need any help? [06:44] Hi LaserJock === bengoodger_ [n=ben@host217-44-86-209.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:44] I hate this power supply [06:44] the whole house goes off for no reason [06:45] ogra Bear with me here. I hope this is right: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21891 [06:45] sbalneav: I'll need some testing [06:46] LaserJock: sbalneav@ltsp.org, mail me some goodies, and I'll hack with it tonight. [06:46] gruntu, looks fine to me [06:47] what do you see in /var/log/daemon.log if you try to start the dhcp server ? === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #edubuntu [06:48] highvoltage: got a minute, I'm trying to setup a fat client [06:50] rodarvus, got it ! "(WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap" [06:50] rodarvus, is there a certain package holding the keymaps nowadays ? [06:50] thats not pulled in by the xorg metapackage ? [06:51] incidentally, edgy has a new set of them [06:51] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21894 [06:52] gruntu, the server is running fine ... [06:53] what exactly is the problem now ? [06:53] apparetnly even a client recieved a kernel ... [06:54] yes, xkb-data, I think [06:55] it was something else, but got renamed (I think even before dapper was released, btw) [06:55] well [06:55] xorg is in its rdepends [06:55] so it should be pulled in by ltsp-build-client [06:56] (which pulls in xorg) === bengoodger_ [n=ben@host217-44-86-209.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:57] hmm [06:58] rodarvus, did the location in teh filesystem change somehow in a recent package ? even if i use the defaults i get that error ... [06:58] bring back the underscore [06:58] ooh, I have one now === bengoodger_ is now known as bengoodger [06:58] i suspect it has a new location that needs to be mounted rw or something [06:58] ogra, I would need to check [07:00] ah, tollef maintains it ... [07:00] The client start to load the graphic comes up then falls back to an error "Mount: RPC: Timeout" There is a lot more data. Do you want me to get it? [07:00] gruntu, sounds like either your nfs server isnt running or the client mounts fro the wrong place [07:01] try: grep ltsp /etc/exports [07:01] that should return one line === cberlo [n=berloc@mars.dsbn.edu.on.ca] has joined #edubuntu [07:01] then check if nfs is running: ps ax|grep nfs [07:01] that should return several lines [07:02] Hi folks. Just popping in to find out how local devices and local printing in Edubuntu LTSP is coming along, and if I can set up a local printer yet.... [07:02] cberlo, local devices should be done today ... [07:03] i havent looked at printing at all [07:03] (and just ran into a very strange bug with localdev) [07:04] /opt/ltsp *(ro,no_root_squash,async) [07:04] ogra: Excellent, for the local devices. Printing, okay, I'll see what I can work with. apt-get upgrade to get local devs? [07:04] gruntu, right [07:04] now check if the ps command bove shows nfsd running [07:04] (dont paste it here, yes or no suffices) [07:05] cberlo, i'll post instructions to the edubuntu lists once its safe for testing [07:05] Alright. I'll watch for it. Thanks. [07:06] (you need an lts.conf and enable it there and its onyl installed on the client through ltsp-build-client, upgrading from edgy will need some amnual work) [07:06] *manual [07:06] ogra yes it is running [07:07] is there a line saying rootpath: in the error on the client ? and rootserver: ? [07:08] find that one and check it oints to your server and the /opt/ltsp/i386 path [07:08] *points === ogra curses his keyboard [07:09] right before the error it says: "rootserver: 0.0.0.0 rootpath: [07:10]