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surgydraik: didnt cross my mind till just now, why dont i go the torent route man im glad i thought of that12:09
draiktry it surgy12:09
intelikeyCUM_SIURAN ifconfig eth0 [ip]  up12:09
zorgluuuall the other ones in english explain it for gnome and only put little notes about what to change for kubuntu12:09
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intelikeyCUM_SIURAN or did you mean modem ?12:09
draikIsnt torrent the #1 way to get linux distros?12:09
brkamikazezorgluuu: if you can, could you translate it and put it on the english wiki? :)12:09
CUM_SIURANI meant ethernet12:10
CUM_SIURANwell, wlan actually12:10
CUM_SIURANbut yeah12:10
CUM_SIURANwhat if I get the ip from dhcp?12:10
zorgluuubrkamikaze, ok i will, first i have to test it tho :)12:10
Stardoganyone know how to install printer-driver? the ordinary way doesn't work12:10
brkamikazeCUM_SIURAN: if you get it from dhcp you need to fear nothing12:10
intelikeygetting in ober my head CUM_SIURAN, i'm network illiterate.12:10
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CUM_SIURANbrkm: huh?12:11
intelikeyStardog which 'ordinary way' ?12:11
brkamikazeCUM_SIURAN: if dhcp is working, then the network is configured as long as the dhcp server is working12:12
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Stardogintelikey: "add printer" in system settings... every time i try to download the driver i get the msg, that either the driver doesn't exists or i dont have the rights12:12
CUM_SIURANwell, the network isn't work12:12
CUM_SIURANing12:12
CUM_SIURANand the dhcp server must be working12:12
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CUM_SIURANbecuase I am on that same network on another computer right now12:13
intelikeyStardog kdesu that app12:13
intelikeybecome root12:13
Martijn81CUM_SIURAN: since 6.06.1 i had todo: sudo dhclient ethx12:13
brkamikazeCUM_SIURAN: sudo dhclient12:13
intelikeyuse the force12:13
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intelikeyfeel the power12:13
Martijn81CUM_SIURAN: every boot that is12:13
Stardogintelikey: what command do i run?12:14
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routhdamn - loading the module didn't work - ubuntu really needs alsaconf - when I run alsamixer I get "lsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" - and my games don't have sound - however beep media player has sound with alsa - because I can choose hw0,0 or hw0,1 with the plugin.. anything that tries to use 'default' fails12:14
Stardogwell.... Im considering meself a newbie :p12:14
routhanyone have an idea for my plight?12:15
intelikeyi don't know.  i don't run a GUI   maybe cupsdconf "12:15
CUM_SIURANI got "no DHCPOFFERS received"12:15
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draikStardog, have you tried both of the drivers? If there is more than one listed for the same printer? I had that same issue12:16
brkamikazeCUM_SIURAN: then the dhcp server isn't working OR you can't reach the network12:16
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shadowr3dhello12:16
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Stardogdraik: yes... tried everyone.... same errormsg i get12:16
draikweird12:16
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m4rc0sssgood by ;)12:17
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draikwhat's your printer?12:17
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Stardogdraik: hpc 75012:17
shadowr3ddoes anyone know how to get a scanner working?12:17
intelikeydraik i might have misread him.  but it sounds like he's not getting root perms.12:17
CUM_SIURANbrkam: how do I reach the network then?12:17
shadowr3danyone12:17
Stardogdraik: HP psc 750 i ment12:17
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intelikeydont ya still gotta be root to add a printer12:17
shadowr3dLINUX YEAH12:17
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draikintelikey, that might be the issue12:18
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InuDuelistNo spamming.12:18
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InuDuelistStop spamming.12:18
shadowr3dg12:18
shadowr3dwho are you12:18
shadowr3dwho are you12:18
NickGarveythe ops will be angry...12:18
intelikeyand i have used   HP psc 750    pretty good medium quality multi device.12:18
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Martijn81op?12:18
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NickGarvey!ops12:18
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak12:18
shadowr3dg12:18
connyosisshadowr3d: asswhipe, stop being a little punk12:18
shadowr3dgfd12:18
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InuDuelistYou do realize that I permaban is just a right click away, right?12:18
shadowr3dgfd12:18
routhgrow the hell up kid12:18
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InuDuelistNPOwned.12:19
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connyosisthank you12:19
NickGarveythanks12:19
draikTHANK YOU!!!!!!!!12:19
routhwoot12:19
InuDuelistWhat a nab.12:19
InuDuelistContinue on with your talking of the printers.12:19
draikplease12:19
intelikeyand i have used   HP psc 750    pretty good medium quality multi device.12:19
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routhNow anyone know anyway to configure the default alsa card in ubuntu - they must have something since they "refuse" to put alsaconf in12:20
intelikeybut the only issue i had was just "be root"  and add it.12:20
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connyosisrouth: what do you mean by configure? Isn't alsamixer enough?12:20
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draikI am not sure what I did to fix the printer issue other than reboot and try again12:21
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routhconnyosis - I'm going to repeat my ealier message to bring you up to speed12:21
routhdamn - loading the module didn't work - ubuntu really needs alsaconf - when I run alsamixer I get "lsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" - and my games don't have sound - however beep media player has sound with alsa - because I can choose hw0,0 or hw0,1 with the plugin.. anything that tries to use 'default' fails12:21
Stardogintelikey: so how do i Become root to this kind of operations?12:21
intelikeyrepoot   lol12:21
draikLOL12:21
connyosisrouth: I see.12:21
intelikeyStardog the way i did it, (this isn't the *buntu way)  was  drop to console and startx as root.12:22
InuDuelistNo, I'm not.12:22
InuDuelistDeathmaster, but thanks anyway.12:22
intelikeyit's the cli guy  kinda thing    ya know.12:22
draikStardog, you're not asked for a password or anything when you go into your System Settings?12:22
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routhconnyosis: So I need to configure alsa somehow - anything else I would run alsaconf - I like ubuntu though and would like to find a native resolution to this12:22
intelikeyStardog want a 123 on it ?12:22
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Stardogdraik: no... no passwords12:23
draikintelikey, I'll take it if stardog doesn't12:23
draikhmmm12:23
Stardogintelikey: i would like that yes12:23
draikditto12:23
connyosisrouth: yeah I can understand that12:23
routhconnyosis: googling just seems to produce a lot of forums with complaints about not having alsaconf - and I found the thread where the developers explain why they left alsaconf out - but I'm pulling my hair out, as there's lots of complaints - but no solution...12:24
Kr4t05Is there anything special that I need to do when I upgrade to KDE 3.5.4?12:25
intelikey[ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]    login    sudo su -     then /etc/init.d/kdm stop && startx        when you log out of the root kde restart it like this    /etc/init.d/kdm start & exit12:25
intelikeyStardog ^12:25
connyosisrouth: what error do you get when trying to load the module for your card?12:26
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routhrouth: None-  they load fine12:26
intelikeypretty simple stuff for a  cli user.12:26
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Stardogill try12:26
connyosisrouth: what kind of card is it?12:27
intelikeylet me quote actuall typed commands for you.12:27
routhconnyosis: none they load fine - talking to mysefl there - I need to tell alsa to use hw0,0 or hw0,1 - it's a Sound Blaster PCI 128 model ct 470012:27
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intelikeypress keys ->"[ctrl] +[alt] +[f1] "   login    sudo su -     then "/etc/init.d/kdm stop && startx "        when you log out of the root kde restart it like this    "/etc/init.d/kdm start & exit "12:27
intelikeyoops  missed the sudo part.12:28
intelikey"sudo su -"12:28
phreakysow man12:28
routhconnyosis: in beep media player I can specify that rather than default, it should use one of the other two alsa cards showing for my card - if I specify either of the other ones it works12:28
phreakysi really start to hate ati stuff12:28
intelikeyif the quotes help clear it up any.12:28
boeroehello here a stupid question of a newbie . i download firefox and untared it wit tar -xv...12:28
routhconnyosis: if I tell beep to use default - I wind up with the same issue in beep as in games.. no sound12:28
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boeroewaht miust i do to install further firefox?12:29
phreakyssudo apt-get install firefox12:29
phreakysget it from the repositories boeroe12:29
Kr4t05boeroe: sudo apt-get install firefox, you don't need to compile it from source.12:29
phreakysor with adept12:29
boeroeok thx will try it.12:29
draikyou already have it ready for install12:29
boeroeyes i untarred it12:29
nagyvI can not openany connections in the browsers (Firefox, Konqueror). Although with ping it seems tah I know the IP-address. Any ideas?12:30
boeroeeverything is in a directory firefox12:30
sledgeDoes somebody know about a X11 proxy that forwards mouse/keyboard input to an X server?12:30
boeroeoke thx preakys12:30
phreakysnp12:30
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phreakysif someone can help me with fglrx setup, would be great12:31
intelikeynagyv been playing with firewall ?12:31
connyosisrouth: checked out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 ?12:31
connyosisrouth: maybe something there to help you12:31
nagyvintelikey: there is a firewall, but I do not administer it. This problem comes back from time-to-time, but then I can use the net again.12:32
intelikeynagyv ;/   sorry no help.12:33
Kr4t05Gee...12:34
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Kr4t05This camera worked fine in breezy...12:34
Kr4t05Maybe I should downgrade. :/12:34
Dr_Willisleft grade!12:35
boeroePacific Airways12:35
boeroeReading package lists... Done12:35
boeroeBuilding dependency tree... Done12:35
boeroePackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:35
boeroeThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:35
boeroeis only available from another source12:35
boeroeHowever the following packages replace it:12:35
boeroe  libnss312:35
routhconnyosis: That document leads me to the same dead end with no answer - I run aplay -l and get my soundcard - so it tells me to run alsamixer - but it has no info if you have an error with alsamixer - so I dead end and the document is useless12:35
boeroethis is what i get phreaky12:35
boeroewhat must i do?12:35
phreakysah12:35
boeroephreaky12:35
boeroe?12:35
phreakysehm, maybe you have to uncomment some repositories12:35
phreakysgo to console, and enter: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:36
intelikey!repos > boeroe12:36
boeroei dont understand what is apt get is supposed to do?12:36
Kr4t05!apt12:36
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:36
boeroeok12:36
phreakysit installs software for you12:36
intelikeys/installs/manages/ ^12:37
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Dr_WillisHmm  Some how i got a "Kat  Desktop Search Enviroment" - but the kitty wont search for nothing. :)12:37
Dr_Willisi think i need to RTFM12:37
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draikboeroe, type 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox'12:37
routhconnyosis: brb - going to try another idea I found - manually creating asound.conf and rebooting12:39
Martijn81moment what for?12:39
connyosisrouth: do that, I'll check around as well12:39
boeroeoke will try that draik12:39
draikhope it works out for you boeroe12:39
Martijn81stupid me...12:39
intelikeyMartijn81 where brkamikaze went away to12:40
draikI remember my physics professor telling us about moments... it's only as good as a picture12:40
Martijn81yeah i noticed, little late though...12:40
intelikey:)12:40
boeroesame sjet draik12:40
draikhmmm12:41
boeroeReading package lists... Done12:41
boeroeBuilding dependency tree... Done12:41
boeroePackage mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:41
boeroeThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:41
boeroeis only available from another source12:41
boeroeE: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate12:41
draik!pastebin > boeroe12:41
boeroewhat is !pastebin>12:41
connyosisboeroe: don't paste a lot of lines in the channel, use pastebin.com12:42
connyosisboeroe: and then just paste the link here12:42
draik!pastebin12:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:42
boeroeok thx12:43
InuDuelistAny students in here?12:43
InuDuelisthttp://www.mynoteit.com/12:43
draikbefore you flood the channel and get kicked for it, paste your output in there and paste your link here for us to see12:43
draik^ boeroe12:43
boeroethis is frustrating can install anything12:43
boeroeok will do12:43
draikboeroe, use adept instead12:44
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Kr4t05boeroe: you may need to enable universe.12:44
Kr4t05!universe12:44
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:44
draikKr4t05, I didn't think about that... boeroe, try that12:45
Dr_Williswowsers... kat crashed and crashed and crashed some more. :P12:45
Kr4t05Dr_Willis: Do you have any advice for someone upgrading KDE to 3.5.4?12:46
Dr_Willisother then DONT do it. :P12:46
Dr_Willislol12:46
Kr4t05Dr_Willis: Why?12:46
boeroeyou maean sudo adeptinstall firefox?12:46
Dr_Willisno idea really, heck - im not even sure what version i am using.12:46
Kr4t05Mkay.12:46
boeroedraik you mean sudo adept install firefox?12:47
draikno12:47
draikAre you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?12:47
Dr_Willislooks like i am using 3.5.2 here12:47
Kr4t05boeroe:  sudo apt-get install firefox12:47
boeroekubuntu12:47
Dr_Williswhats so new in 3.5.4 ?12:47
Kr4t05Dr_Willis: No idea, but I like surprises. :P12:47
draikK Menu > System > Adept12:47
boeroehmm ok12:48
Dr_Willisyou get your ticket.. andyou takes your chances!12:48
Dr_Willis:P12:48
Dr_WillisRide the Bronco!12:48
Kr4t05Stupid EasyCam2 complains about gnome.ui12:48
Kr4t05><12:49
boeroeand then waht do i do?12:49
boeroedraik12:49
Kr4t05boeroe: nothing.12:49
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Kr4t05boeroe: oh, wait.12:49
boeroenothing how is firefox installed then?12:49
Kr4t05boeroe: type 'firefox' in the search field12:50
boeroealready did that12:50
Kr4t05Did anything show up in the menu below?12:50
draiknothing?12:50
Phoulanyone know of a program that i can use to check to see what folders are taking up the most amout of space on my hd?12:51
boeroegave mozilla firefox language package12:51
Kr4t05Arg...12:51
Kr4t05BRB12:51
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RiddellPhoul: du -h12:51
Kr4t05I need to restart. ><12:51
routhconnyosis: That did it12:51
boeroedraik still there12:51
draikyup12:52
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nonickname_can anyone help me with setting up dhcpd?12:52
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boeroeso what is the problem12:52
draiknot sure what's going on with your setup12:52
routhconnyosis: had to specify hw:0,0 - alsamixer still fails to work - because of the lack of alsaconf - however my sound works in everything now12:52
draikok12:52
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draikopen a window to pastebin12:52
draik!pastebin12:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:53
draikthere's the link for you in case you need it12:53
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boeroedid it already create a link named test but how do i get this link in this chat12:54
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boeroehmm jsut read something about webboard12:55
richardI've got a problem with Clamav,Klamav, Clamav-base, fresh-clam. . . . it will not install with adept because it returns an error saying all of the dependency files weren't loaded or could be loaded. . . anyone else have this problem? What's the fix?12:55
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boeroebut then i have to install dpkg again an installation problem12:55
boeroe:-)12:55
draikboeroe12:56
boeroeYES RICHARD me12:56
richardI run dpkg --configure -a in Konsole to get everything else loaded onto my system. . .12:56
draikopen a Run Command12:56
draik[ALT]  + [F2] 12:56
boeroeand then?12:56
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draiktype          kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:57
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richardKlamav also has problems . . . .in the past it would indicate a new update was needed to be installed so it would download but never really install it. . . .12:58
draikgot it open?12:58
boeroeyep12:59
richardAnyways any help with Clamav would be appreciated. ...12:59
draikcopy everything (right click and click on Select All)12:59
draikpaste it into a pastebin12:59
boeroedone01:00
draiklink to pastebin?01:00
richardAny idea's  ??01:00
boeroei feel so stupid but where is the link how do i get it here?01:01
draik!pastebin01:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:01
boeroei called it sourceslist and can see it at the right01:02
draikthe link is the URL on the top01:02
draikgot it01:02
draikdon't worry01:02
draikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2184001:02
draikthat's your link01:02
boeroei clicked on send after typing the name and then it apeared at he right under the heading posts01:02
boeroeohhhhh01:03
boeroenow i het it01:03
boeroeget it01:03
draikok01:05
draiknow open up konsole01:05
brkamikazeintelikey: he went to dinner01:05
boeroedone01:05
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draiktype          sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup01:05
boeroedone01:06
draikok01:06
draikso now you have a backup if this doens't work for you01:06
draiknow01:06
draikhere is my link to your new sources.list01:06
draikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2184101:06
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draikHere is what you do01:07
draikclose konsole01:07
mshade!qemu01:07
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo01:07
draikopen the run command again01:07
boeroeok01:07
draik[ALT]  + [F2] 01:07
boeroedone01:07
draiktype          kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:07
brkamikazeI updated KDE01:08
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brkamikazestarting logoff procedure...01:08
boeroedone01:08
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draikthen delete everything in there01:08
draikand paste what I have for you in pastebin01:08
draikto your sources.list file01:08
boeroeok01:08
draiksave it01:09
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draikboeroe, done/01:10
draik?01:10
richardHere are the error messages I get from Clamav: E: clamav-base: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 101:10
richardE: clamav-daemon: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured01:10
richardE: clamsmtp: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured01:10
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richardHow do I get it to install?01:10
richardWhat dependency files would I be missing?\01:11
richardAnyone have any idea's01:11
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draikboeroe?01:12
draikQuestion for everyone and anyone...01:13
boeroeok done cool once you know how to use it with download it puts it for you in a kate editor01:13
boeroeoke draik01:13
boeroewhats next01:13
draikIf I attach a 3rd HDD, 80GB, can I install Kubuntu on it and run it from there?01:13
draikboeroe, open konsole01:13
draiktype         sudo apt-get update01:13
boeroedone01:14
draikok now...01:14
draiktype         sudo apt-get upgrade01:14
boeroedone01:14
draiknow try it01:14
draiktype         sudo apt-get install firefox01:14
boeroeoke run it should try to install now?01:15
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Martijn81draik: shouldn't be a problem as long as you keep grub on the first hard disk (asuming you're not taking the alternative road and use NTLDR)01:15
draiktry to install it now with that command01:15
draikMartijn81, I'm using GRUB01:15
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draikHow do I decide where GRUB stays?01:16
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Martijn81draik: you can't AFAIK, it's has to be the first drive because that's where the BIOS is going to look01:16
draikMartijn81, so when I install it on another HDD, I don't have an option to keep the GRUB on my primary HDD?01:17
Martijn81so, either the primary master in case of PATA or SATA1 in case of SATA01:17
draikor do you mean primary HDD as in Master and Slave drives?01:17
Martijn81draik: yep01:18
draikoh01:18
draikyeah01:18
draikthis new HDD will be slave01:18
Martijn81draik: it always chooses the first drive01:18
draikthat I knew... phew!!!01:18
draikI thought it was as to where the GRUB wants to be installed01:18
draikbut how do I go about setting up the install?01:18
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boeroehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2184301:19
draikwhen I choose the drive, I know I'm choosing the new HDD01:19
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boeroethis is what i get01:19
draikI will look at it right now01:19
draikboeroe, do you have Adept open?01:19
draikor anything else controlling your repos?01:19
boeroeyes hhmm01:20
boeroetry again01:20
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draikMartijn81, what about the setup? Do I have to tell it to set root (/) to my primary drive or to the new HDD? If I set it to my primary, won't that format the partition I have right now?01:20
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draikboeroe, let me know what happens01:21
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MeTa[AwAy] bb all01:22
boeroelooks like there where no errors !!!!!!01:22
draikso you have it installed now boeroe?01:22
boeroejust checking01:22
draikK Menu > Internet01:23
boeroecan not run it...01:23
draik???01:23
draikany errors?01:23
boeroewith alt f2 firefox01:23
boeroelet me check what i should do01:23
draikweird01:23
draikI can01:23
boeroesudo apt-get install firefox01:23
boeroeand then hwo do i run it?01:24
boeroehow do i run it01:24
gnomefreakfrom the menu01:24
gnomefreakor from cli with firefox01:24
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brkamikazegnomefreak: wtf do I always need to run kbuildsycoca after installing a new x11 package?01:25
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Martijn81draik: i have not done a dualboot with linux yet, it might be that the installation give you the option because it detects there's already a / partition, i don't know that, normally grub will just point to / partition installing on for the menu.lst file, but in case of linux dualboot i do not know to be honest01:25
gnomefreakbrkamikaze: i have never run it so i couldnt tell you01:25
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ubuntu_busy busy01:26
draikThank your for your input Martijn8101:26
draikMuch appreciated01:26
draikboeroe, try to reboot01:27
boeroehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2184301:27
boeroesame eroor when installing01:27
boeroeerror01:27
ubuntu_???01:27
draikhmmm01:28
draikI'm running out of solutions for you here01:28
draikI don't think I know what else I can suggest other than a reboot01:28
boeroehmm yes man still appreciate your help. i feel so dum and helpless....01:28
draikyou're welcome01:28
boeroeoke will try that tomorrow is another day01:29
boeroethx01:29
draikdon't let anything intimidate you01:29
boeroe:-)01:29
draiknp01:29
boeroeso waht where you trying?01:29
boeroeupdate the source list?01:29
draikyup01:29
boeroenow i  know why people run away from linux :-)01:30
draikcuz they can't let go of the windoze teet01:30
boeroebut it is a challenge01:30
boeroelater01:30
draikpeace01:30
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draikGoodbye everyone... I now attempt an install on another HDD01:31
ubuntu_;)01:32
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Timwow ok01:35
Tim??question how do i download a server list???01:35
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kraut!apt01:36
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)01:36
Tim!apt01:36
Timi see01:36
Timthanks01:36
Tim;)01:37
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Timbye all thanks for the info ;)01:38
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draikMartijn81, what good is an attempt when I don't have the necessary cables01:58
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draikI am short on Y-Connectors from my PSU01:58
draikWHOA!!!!02:00
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Martijn81ops!02:00
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draikbrown.freenode really crapped out!!!!02:00
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Martijn81!ops02:00
bLaZeDbig split02:00
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draikoh yea02:00
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exobuzzare there netsplits going on ?02:11
draikI think so02:11
draikbut I think its done02:11
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exobuzzits bloody annoying..02:11
draikor it's getting to be a real crawl02:11
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draikexobuzz, it's really annoying with all the joins02:11
bonggnuhi, i need a program to shrink a mpg file of 890 megas, to record in a vcd02:11
draikkinda throws off convos02:11
draikQDVDAUTHOR02:12
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exobuzzanyone here used koverartist ? just that its good, and i discovered it recently02:12
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exobuzzand i printing a nice dvd cover today :)02:12
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bonggnuok,. i will try it, thanks a lot02:13
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bonggnudraik: ** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x08552c28 **02:17
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oslobonsoir02:18
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oslosous kubuntu j'aimerais mettre l'ecran de login de ubuntu est-ce possible ?02:19
brkamikaze!fr02:19
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:19
oslosorry02:19
oslo& thks02:19
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osloso under Kubuntu i'd like to switch my logon screen to the ubuntu one how can i do ?02:20
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pierrethhello i cannot burn dvd02:21
pierrethi have the error Failed to open device02:21
pierrethwhat should I do?02:21
CViruspierreth: try with sudo02:21
pierrethCVirus: all the times?02:22
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CViruspierreth: I suppose02:22
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Martijn81oslo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm02:23
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brkamikazesudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork02:23
pierrethCVirus: thank you, I am trying02:23
brkamikazesudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork gdm02:23
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Martijn81no that's not right, damn what was that command...02:24
oslo<brkamikaze>> and i'll stay under KDE or ..?02:24
brkamikazeoslo: yes, you will continue under kde02:24
brkamikazeunless you install gnome-session02:24
osloonly the login screen after the usplash screen ?02:25
oslok02:25
brkamikazeyou will also need to configure the bootscripts to start GDM instead of KDM02:25
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pierrethCVirus: i have the same erroor02:26
osloi don't want 4 now KDE is great02:26
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CViruspierreth: no idea .. really02:26
pierrethCVirus: is it possible to burn cd or dvd on linux?02:26
CVirusyes sure02:27
draikpierreth K3B02:27
brkamikazesudo bash -c 'rm /etc/rc3.d/S99kdm; ln -s ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc3.d/S99gdm; rm /etc/rc{0,6}.d/K01kdm; ln -s ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc{0,6}.d/K01gdm'02:27
redwhen i get on the web at kde-look.org and get wallpapers, how exactly do i install them as well as other programs that are .tar02:28
pierrethdraik: k3b is not better02:28
brkamikazered: open then with Ark02:28
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redok02:28
redthanxs02:28
brkamikazeif they have a file named 'configure', then you need to compile02:28
Jucatobut wallpapers, usually, don't need compiling02:28
redok02:28
redill try some stuff02:29
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drgonzohello all02:29
redis that the same with visual themes02:29
drgonzois there anyway to check is the kmail spamasssasin flags are working02:29
brkamikazeJucato: visual styles however do need compiling :(02:29
Jucatored, not all02:29
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Jucatobrkamikaze, yes... but he did mention "wallpapers"...02:29
drgonzoi.e which i check something as spam and it gets moved to trash, it's suppose to run the sa-learn command but can i check to see if it's working?02:29
brkamikazered: sometimes the publisher of the theme publish a .deb version under another name02:29
redokay02:30
brkamikazejust download that deb and run "dpkg -i <file"02:30
brkamikazedpkg -i <filename>02:30
redthe ones that i download sar .tar.gz02:30
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Jucatoor, when you have download the .deb, right-click on it in Konqueror and choose Kubuntu Package Menu > Install02:30
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brkamikazered: if it is a wallpaper, don't worry02:30
pierrethK3b is just so slow02:31
brkamikazebut if it is a visual style, prefer a .deb version02:31
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redok02:31
CViruspierreth: burning has nuthing to do with the software you're using02:31
redwhere would i extract to02:31
redwhat folder02:31
redor does it even mattter02:31
brkamikazepierreth: every single burning program for linux uses cdrecord as a backend AFAIK02:32
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brkamikazered: it doesn't matter02:32
Jucatored, doesn't matter if it's just a wallpaper02:32
pierrethCVirus: yes it does, K3b is very just at adding a folder02:32
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redits a theme02:32
redor should i even try themes02:32
pierrethGravman is a lot faster for that02:32
brkamikazered: there are some themes available from apt, try those too02:32
redok02:33
redill try those02:33
otaku-sanDoes anyone know of any good Archiving programs beside Ark?  I was thinking 7zip but I want to know if there are any other good ones out there02:33
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brkamikazeotaku-san: file-roller02:33
brkamikazebut that's part of GNOME02:33
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Jucatored, this post might help clarify some things a bit about themes in KDE: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8189.msg33038#msg3303802:34
=== otaku-san has a bad habit of going with something else even if what he has is perfectly fine...just for the fun of it ;)
Jucatootaku-san, besides, Ark and all the rest are merely front-ends to the command line utilities. they're abilities are largely dependent on those02:35
Jucatootaku-san, other archiving programs: file roller and xarchiver (xfce)02:35
brkamikazeotaku-san: the best archiving tool is 'tar'02:35
brkamikaze:)02:35
otaku-sanJucato: ahhhh...yeah I was wondering...02:35
otaku-sanbrkamikaze: hahah ya it is most defiantly better than a .zip02:36
otaku-sanbut windoze has such bad support for it...02:36
Jucatobut seems like RAR has better/smaller compression...02:36
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brkamikazeremember to install p7zip02:37
Dr_Willisrar often can compress better.. but takes longer02:37
brkamikazethen Ark will be able to mess with .7z files02:37
oslobrkamikaze> it didn't work i tried a Ctrl-Alt-Del to see it didn't work02:38
Bbettohi, whats mean this checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!02:38
osloabout change the kubuntu login to ubuntu one02:38
brkamikazeoslo: you need to change the init scripts02:38
brkamikazesudo bash -c 'rm /etc/rc3.d/S99kdm; ln -s ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc3.d/S99gdm; rm /etc/rc{0,6}.d/K01kdm; ln -s ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc{0,6}.d/K01gdm'02:38
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mshade!composite manager02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about composite manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
brkamikaze!gdm02:38
ubotugdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB02:38
brkamikazebah02:39
brkamikazeJucato: do you know how to replace kdm with gdm?02:39
brkamikazeany user-friendly way?02:39
Jucatobrkamikaze, sorry, a bit clueless there...02:39
Bbettohi what means this please? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!02:39
oslo^^02:39
brkamikazeBbetto: sudo apt-get install kdevelop302:40
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brkamikazethis should install almost every header needed to compile a X program02:40
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pierrethI was able to burn a folder02:44
pierrethI'm trying to erase now02:45
brkamikazesomebody on the -br support channel is having this problem with the nvidia driver:02:45
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brkamikaze(EE) NVIDIA(0): Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA X driver and the02:45
brkamikaze (EE) NVIDIA(0):     NVIDIA GLX module.  X driver version: 1.0-8774; GLX module02:45
brkamikaze (EE) NVIDIA(0):     version: 1.0-8762.02:45
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brkamikazewhat should be installed to make those versions equal?02:45
Martijn81damn, md5sum is equal but half the cd is corrupt ;(02:47
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brkamikazeMartijn81: lol02:48
brkamikazeso the md5 itself is corrupted :P02:49
Martijn81don't know, i'll burn again and verify the disk this time to be sure02:50
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D4rklyhas anyone got xgl working ?02:51
pierrethi'm trying to burn my home folder, why is it so slow?02:52
brkamikazeD4rkly: I won't even try02:52
brkamikazeI own one of those cursed SiS onboard cards :(02:52
InuDuelistDarn.02:53
InuDuelistI can't get Imageshack Quickshot working in Wine.02:53
Jucatopierreth, maybe you have lots of files? or slow burning speed?02:54
pierrethi think i had a problem because my burner was listed in double02:54
pierrethJucato: i have lost of files, but it is not the burning that is taking so much time, it is the preparation02:54
k31ththis server pissed me off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvswi-CAmeU02:55
InuDuelistAnyone know of a program that lets you take a screenshot and upload an image to the internet?02:55
brkamikazeInuDuelist: I know a duo of programs that can02:56
brkamikazeksnapshot and konqueror :)02:56
Jucatolol02:56
InuDuelistbrkamikaze, seriously.02:56
brkamikazeInuDuelist: I didn't even knew about the existance of such "Imageshack Quickshot"02:57
InuDuelistOh?02:57
brkamikazepost your results on wine's appdb02:57
brkamikazeand make sure you're using wine 0.9.2002:57
InuDuelistappdb?02:57
InuDuelistHow do I check?02:57
brkamikazehttp://appdb.winehq.org02:57
brkamikazeInuDuelist: wine --version02:57
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brkamikazethe site http://www.winehq.org contains instructions to add a repository for {,K,X}ubuntu that contains always the latest wine02:58
InuDuelistLong. Error. Message.02:58
brkamikazeInuDuelist: bah02:59
brkamikazeapt-cache show wine02:59
InuDuelistWait.02:59
InuDuelistI don't have 0.9.2003:00
InuDuelistI have 0.9.9.03:00
pierrethi think i cannot burn my home folder, i will make a copy first03:00
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robert_hm03:00
brkamikazeInuDuelist: that's because you're using official repositories03:01
InuDuelistI am.03:01
brkamikazeInuDuelist: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main03:01
InuDuelistDo I add that to my repository list?03:02
robert_I can't seem to (re)start esd03:02
robert_I get errors when trying to use my onboard soundcard03:02
brkamikazeInuDuelist: yes03:02
robert_er, how *do* I restart esd under (k)ubuntu?03:02
brkamikazerobert_: why are you using esd under kubuntu?03:03
robert_because I'm used to it03:03
robert_actuall03:03
robert_y03:03
brkamikazeit will be easier to get support for esd on #ubuntu, since it's the default in there03:03
robert_ah03:03
robert_yeah03:03
robert_I started from normal Ubuntu, since I rely on Evolution03:04
pierrethi think the burning software is having a hard time with FIFO files03:04
brkamikazepierreth: is DMA enabled?03:05
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Martijn81(@*#&%^!#$*%^ i forgot to set the verify option ;(   Can i md5sum manually on a CD?03:05
D4rklywhere is sources.list ?03:05
HawkwindD4rkly: /etc/apt03:05
D4rklyfor adept03:05
CheeseBurgerManD4rkly: /etc/apt/sources.list03:05
brkamikazeMartijn81: md5sum /dev/cdrom03:05
pierrethbrkamikaze: i don't know, I don't know what's the meaning, how can i check03:05
Martijn81:)03:05
D4rklycool :)03:06
brkamikazepierreth: dmesg | grep DMA03:06
brkamikazecheck if your cd-rom device is listed03:06
pierreth[    0.000000]    DMA zone: 196608 pages, LIFO batch:3103:06
pierreth[    0.000000]    DMA32 zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:003:06
pierreth[   52.091090]  hda: Enabling Ultra DMA 503:06
pierreth[   52.092103]  hdb: Enabling Ultra DMA 203:06
pierreth[   55.615328]  hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100)03:06
pierreth[   55.639684]  hdb: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)03:06
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Hawkwind!pastebin03:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:07
Hawkwindpierreth: Please use pastebin and not flood the channel03:07
brkamikazepierreth: it's activated03:07
pierrethhow much text can i paste without the pastbin?03:07
brkamikazeand you just needed to check, not paste it in here :)03:07
brkamikazepierreth: 3 lines tops I think should be enough03:08
pierrethok, sorry :-)03:08
brkamikazei'll go03:09
brkamikazesleep03:09
brkamikaze=p03:09
Jucatoweee! Hawkwind's still alive! ;D03:11
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Martijn81bad bad, md5sum from server to download to cd is the same, though many packages are corrupted03:13
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D4rklyim trying to install Xgl compiz-kde: Depends: compiz (= 0.0.2-4ubuntu2) but 0.0.13.41-0ubuntu1 is to be installed03:14
draik!pastebin > draik03:15
BbettoHi03:15
D4rklylol its 2 lines03:15
Bbettowhat is wrong whit this03:15
Bbettochecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!03:15
Bbettoi install kdevelop3 but the mistake is the same03:16
Bbettowhat hapend?03:16
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Martijn81hmm, looks like it was my own fault (duh)03:24
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robert_blah03:29
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acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
usjmvshkGNOME > KDE03:30
fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
pyehhcljGNOME > KDE03:30
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fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
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fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
pyehhcljGNOME > KDE03:30
acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
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acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
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cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
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fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
pyehhcljGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE03:30
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
usjmvshkGNOME > KDE03:30
acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
usjmvshkGNOME > KDE03:30
pyehhcljGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE03:30
acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
usjmvshkGNOME > KDE03:30
Martijn81Bbetto: you probably need xlibs-dev03:30
pyehhcljGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE03:30
acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
Jucato!ops03:30
usjmvshkGNOME > KDE03:30
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak03:30
pyehhcljGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE03:30
fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
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pyehhcljGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE03:30
pyehhcljGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE03:30
fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
Martijn81!ops03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
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pyehhcljGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE03:30
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pyehhcljGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE03:30
fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
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acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
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fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:30
pyehhcljGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE03:30
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:30
xmhrpowsGNOME > KDE03:30
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acwupnwdGNOME > KDE03:30
fjtowoqpGNOME > KDE03:31
cevnvopfGNOME > KDE03:31
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__mikemoh no03:31
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__mikemWow this is getting annoying03:31
Jucatowhoa...03:31
Martijn81damn, another freak03:31
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draiknot again03:31
Jucatosheesh...03:32
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Martijn81and no ubotu to warn another, and seveas is sleeping...03:32
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JucatoMartijn81: ubotu is there...03:32
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naliothhi beu03:32
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Jucatopeople like that $$#!@%$* give GNOME a bad name...03:32
naliothbeu: you're late to the party  :P03:32
beunalioth: hi :p03:32
draikyup03:32
draikHey nalioth03:33
beunalioth: heh, same as usual ;)03:33
Hobbseeop03:33
__mikemJucato those aren't people its a bot03:33
Hobbseewhat's the problem?03:33
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Jucato__mikem: well, the person/people he made that bot, then03:33
draikHobbsee, go at 'em03:33
draikI hope it's not that pisshead from earlier03:33
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__mikemHobbsee, they were klined before you showed up03:34
Jucatowe received a flood of "GNOME > KDE"....03:34
Hobbseeah right03:34
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Jucatohm.... but now the channel is +r.....03:35
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Hobbseeit is?03:35
Hobbsee[11:35]  *** Channel modes: no messages from outside, no colours allowed, R, f03:35
Hobbseeregister to talk, i suspect03:35
Phoulanyone here use a rca lyra mp3 player?03:35
Jucatoyeah03:35
Jucatonalioth set it to +R03:36
Hobbseecool03:36
Hobbseehe just told me in ops03:36
Jucatoehehe03:36
HobbseeJucato: i got the problems fixed :)03:36
Hobbseei think03:36
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Jucatohmm...03:37
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JucatoHobbsee: still +403:38
Jucatos/4/R03:38
HobbseeJucato: hmm?03:38
Jucatostill +R, and you can't change your nick from an unregistered nick to a registered one unless you leave #kubuntu03:39
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Jucatooh there.... hehehe! thanks nalioth!03:39
HobbseeJucato: ahhh...03:41
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Kr4t05Does anyone here used kbfx?03:50
Agiosnot me03:50
Kr4t05Grumble.03:50
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pierrethok, the burning is now working03:52
Kr4t05Anyone? Please?03:52
InuDuelistI do.03:53
InuDuelistWhat ya need?03:53
Kr4t05InuDuelist: How do I install a menu theme?03:53
Kr4t05I click the menu button, and nothing happens.03:53
InuDuelistOh?03:53
InuDuelistAre you in kbfx config?03:53
Kr4t05?03:54
InuDuelistYou installed Kbfx, right?03:54
Kr4t05From repositories, yes03:54
InuDuelistOk.03:54
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InuDuelistOpen up kbfxconfig03:54
Frederickfolks did anyone here installed the google earth package?03:54
InuDuelistNope, sorry.03:55
Kr4t05InuDuelist: kbfxconfig from terminal?03:55
InuDuelistIt should be in your menu.03:55
Kr4t05Hrm...03:55
Kr4t05Let me restart KDE.03:55
InuDuelistTry going to "run" and typing in "kbfxconfigapp"03:55
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Kr4t05Could not run.03:56
InuDuelistOh?03:56
Kr4t05I type03:56
InuDuelistWhat exactly did you type in to install?03:56
Kr4t05sudo apt-get install kbfx03:57
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InuDuelistHm...03:57
InuDuelistSo, you installed it, but can't get the Config menu open?03:57
Kr4t05Nope.03:58
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InuDuelistHm.03:58
InuDuelistLet's see.03:58
InuDuelistTry going to run, and typing in "kcontrol".03:58
Kr4t05Let me try something...03:58
InuDuelistOk.03:58
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blindangelwhat if Adept, Konqueror, Katapult and most of the thing in the KDesktop disapeared (kinda newb here)03:59
__mikemKr4t05 the package for kbfx in dapper is broken03:59
Kr4t05__mikem: good to know.03:59
__mikemyou need to go to their website and download a package from tehre03:59
Kr4t05__mikem: Build from source?03:59
Kr4t05NVM04:00
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JucatoKr4t05: you might want to try enabling the dapper-backports repository, as there is an updated kbfx (and KTorrent, whoopee!) there04:01
blindangelI tried to install QTHEader and some related package, adept crashed and when i restarted i had no more adept, konqueror and all the stuff04:01
Kr4t05Jucato: Saweet.04:01
Kr4t05Jucato: I suppose now, I can remove Azureus. XP04:03
Jucatohahah04:03
Kr4t05I had to use if for this one tracker that didn't like Ktorrent.04:03
Jucatoonly if you're satisfied with KTorrent 2.0.104:04
pierrethi made a backup of my user account04:04
Kr4t05Jucato: I don't mind it, but the tracker I used to use really hated it.04:04
Kr4t05But, I no longer use that tracker.04:04
Jucatoehehe04:04
pierrethhow can i use this backup with my next linux install?04:04
Martijn81AFAIK KTorrent 2.1 will come soon too, seeing they said it will be a minor release04:04
pierrethi want to restore all my stuff04:04
pierrethcan i just copy back the folder that i saved?04:05
D4rklywhat is the equivalent to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?04:06
D4rklyis there a kdm ?04:07
Jucatosudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart ??04:07
pierrethdoes someone wants a Mac now?04:07
Jucatosudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart04:07
Martijn81pierreth: what's the point of doing that? isn't it wiser to backup the config file you actually need?04:07
pierrethMartijn81: i don't know what I need04:07
pierreththis is the way I do on mac04:08
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HobbseeJucato: has kopete hit dapper-backports yet?04:08
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pierrethi think it is simple04:08
JucatoHobbsee: hmm... I'll check. I seem to be using imbrandon's build04:08
pierrethhow should i do?04:08
HobbseeJucato: ahh okay.   yep04:09
Agiospierreth: how did you create the backup?04:09
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Martijn81pierreth: i works mostly, but a clean start is better in my view04:09
Hobbseei think they did a whole lot of backports then said "lets take a break for a bit"04:09
Kr4t05Ok, it all works, now.04:09
pierrethAgios: i made a dvd of a copy of my home folder04:09
Hobbseeoh...most/all of canonical is on holidays, i think04:09
Agiospierreth: after you reinstall just copy it back over then04:10
pierrethAgios: it is going to work?04:10
JucatoHobbsee: nope. no kopete yet. the Kopete and Konversation that I'm using is from imbrandon04:10
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Agiospierreth: I see no reason why it would not work04:11
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HobbseeJucato: indeed.  i wouldnt mind backporting konvi either, actually04:11
HobbseeJucato: but kopete first :)04:11
Jucatohehehe!04:11
HobbseeJucato: seeing as i'm the active maintainer of that :)04:11
pierrethi want to sell my mac to buy a pc and have everything back as it was04:11
Jucatolol04:11
Jucatooh man! I forgot about madison!04:11
Agiospierreth: I do full backups of my systems every night04:12
JucatoHobbsee: I went to archive.ubuntu.com to manually check if kopete is there04:12
HobbseeJucato: interesting.  i would have used apt-cache policy04:12
JucatoI forgot to simply do apt-cache madison kopete....04:12
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Jucatoehehe04:12
Agiospierreth: I can completely wipe the disk and be back up and running in 30 minutes04:12
pierrethAgios: have you tried a restore?04:12
Jucatoimbrandon was the one who taught me that...04:12
Agiospierreth: many times04:12
pierrethAgios: cool!04:12
HobbseeJucato: i've seen it used, i've not used it04:12
Kr4t05How do I change the background for Konqueror?04:13
HobbseeJucato: ahhh...neat04:13
jamadagnihello. does anyone know where i can get the edgy purple theme for kubuntu04:13
JucatoKr4t05: View > Configure Background04:13
Agiospierreth: http://timia.net/agios/index.php?page=BackUps04:13
jamadagnii mean, colour scheme04:13
Jucatoworks only as a file manager, though04:13
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Kr4t05Jucato: Meh... I know so much advanced stuff, but little crap is impossible. ><04:14
jamadagniHello...04:14
Kr4t05I'm trying to freak my brother out by turning my computer into a Vista Clone. :P04:14
Jucatojamadagni: hmm... in edgy?  sorry no idea... better ask in #ubuntu+1 I think04:15
Agiosnow there is a waste of a good computer04:15
jamadagnijucato - is there no kubuntu=104:15
jamadagnii mean kubuntu+1/04:15
Jucatojamadagni: I don't think so04:15
Kr4t05Agios: Think Kubuntu stability with Vista's look.04:15
AgiosI stand by my statement LOL04:16
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Kr4t05Agios: You're just a hater. :[04:16
Jucatowhat's with Vista's look? lol04:16
Kr4t05Jucato: he's just a flamer.04:16
Jucatoeheheh04:16
Agioshehe04:16
Jucato(actually I don't mind it... but I don't prefer it either...)04:17
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pierrethAgios: thank you04:17
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Agiospierreth: np04:18
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Guest79988i have a problem04:18
Guest79988i was doing an update in the adept manager, and now everytime i boot up i get a screen after the login that just features a konsole in the uper left corner, and thats it04:19
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Guest79988and the login is different04:19
Daniel21http://www.DJDada.dl.am - HipHop & RnB MusicVidz and MusicTracks to Download!!!04:19
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draikRed, sounds like you got rid of your desktop04:20
Redhow do i fix that04:20
Redreinstall the whole thing04:20
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Redi was wanting to install different thems but the adept just stopped responding04:21
Redso u had to restart and now i get nothing04:21
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Redi*04:21
Redi was installing the kdmtheme04:21
draikI think you got ahold of something that wasn't made for your version of Kubuntu04:21
Redand to fix that i have to reinstall the whole thing04:22
JucatoRed: what do you mean by "now I get nothing"??04:22
Redi type in my password and it goes to a light blue background with an active konsole in the upper left hand corner04:23
Redand thats it04:23
Redbut the login screen looks different as well04:23
Jucatohmmm04:23
Redis there some sort of recovery or restore04:24
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enzoI know I had that same issue before, but I can't recall the fix04:24
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enzoother than undoing what you did last04:24
Redhow would i go about undoing what i did04:25
enzowell, what did you do last?04:25
JucatoRed: do you remember if Adept finished what it was doing?04:25
sophie_ /join #compiz04:25
Rednope, it didnt finish04:25
enzoThat pertains to the issue04:25
Redit hung04:25
Redat 58%04:25
enzowhat were you getting?04:25
enzoI think you should try again04:25
JucatoRed: if you can get to a command line, try typing this "sudo dpkg --configure -a"04:25
Redkdmtheme04:25
enzosudo apt-get upgrade04:25
Redthe konsole that pops up is active and i can type in it04:26
enzogo for it04:26
enzodo as Jucato said04:26
Jucatoenzo: :-p04:26
enzosudo dpkg --configure -a04:26
Redok will do04:26
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enzoWhat?04:27
enzoI can admit when I'm wrong...04:27
Redi have to switch machines real quick04:27
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Jucatoof course, I wasn't saying anything ^_^04:27
enzoJucato's method was right, I was wrong04:27
Jucatoenzo: what happened to draik?04:27
D4rkly!transparent04:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about transparent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
enzodesktop froze04:27
Jucatooh...04:27
D4rkly!transparency04:27
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:27
Redsudo dpkg --configure -a that is what i need04:28
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D4rkly!composite04:28
enzoyup04:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:28
Martijn81!fishing04:28
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops04:28
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draikBACK04:28
Knightlusthehehe, ubotu got angry04:28
JucatoD4rkly: you know you can make ubotu send you the results of your queries privately by doing !<query> > D4rkly04:28
D4rklyoh cool04:29
JucatoD4rkly: something like !compiz > D4rkly04:29
draikok04:29
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D4rklyany one know how i can enable true transparency rather than pseudo ? i saw a tutorial somewher04:30
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draikIs there a new version of flash available?04:30
_bbeckI was wondering if anyone knew where I could download the init replacement, I know that it isn't done yet, but I'd like to have a peek at what it looks like so far.04:30
Jucatodraik: what new version?04:31
draikdunno04:31
Jucato_bbeck: you talking about upstart?04:31
draikwas viewing a video on MySpace and it told me to update my flash04:31
Jucatodraik: oh... Flash 9 (and 8 I think) ain't available natively...04:31
draikI hope it's still not talking about Flash 904:32
draikright04:32
Jucatoyou can try installing firefox in Wine then Flash 904:32
draikI press ignore and all I get is audio04:32
_bbeckJucato: I'm not certain of the name, but the one outlined here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReplacementInit04:32
draiknah04:32
draikit's not important04:32
Jucato_bbeck: yes, it's upstart. better ask the people in #ubuntu+1 since it's an Edgy thing04:33
_bbeckJucato: thanks.04:33
Hobbsee_bbeck: it's in universe, for edgy, so far04:34
Jucatoso now Ubuntu has upstart for it's own init system, and USplash for its own bootsplash... well at least they do admit it's an NIH thing...04:35
otaku-sanHey this is a quick gimp question.  okay when I look at tuts on stuff like Canvas resizing (it's different then I'm used to) they're Canvas Resizing options have more stuff that I need but my Gimp doesn't have...is it because I need some plugin?04:41
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D4rklyive installed Xgl but all my fonts are tiny how do i fix this ?04:42
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Hobbseeotaku-san: probably ask that in #ubuntu04:45
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HobbseeJucato: NIH?04:45
JucatoNot Invented Here [syndrome] 04:45
Jucato(for which KDE is always accused of...)04:45
otaku-sanHobbsee: good idea04:47
Jucatootaku-san: or in #gimp (if there is one...)04:47
AgiosJucato: the problem is,splash screens are no big deal, but if they hose up init processing in a big way it's not going to go over well.  They just got through apologizing for the xorg foul up.04:47
otaku-sanJucato: there is....probably better for me to go there04:47
HobbseeJucato: ah right.04:47
HobbseeAgios: yes, but this is edgy, and it's supposed ot break.04:47
Agioslol04:47
Jucatolol04:48
HobbseeAgios: that dapper screw up was *incredibly* bad though04:48
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Hobbseethat's why we keep telling peple "dont use edgy unless you're a developer!  you dont want it!"04:48
Jucatoand I keep telling "Edgy will be released in October, but it will probably be less stable than Dapper"04:48
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Jucatohi imbrandon! glad to see (not your "clone")04:52
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imbrandonheya Jucato04:54
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Phrozen_Onehey all, any cons to installing the 64-bit version of kubuntu? (drivers, apps, etc. incompabilities?)05:03
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Kr4t05Gar...05:11
Kr4t05I try to apply a Theme to my KBFX, and it refuses to stick.05:12
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niceman2hi kubuntu is a shitty os05:13
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Festyurwhere can i find a list of linux compatible 802.11 NICs?05:14
Hawkwindniceman2: Watch the language please and don't troll05:14
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Ballistikniceman2: Why do you think that?05:15
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KaiHanariHawkwind, Ballistik ,  they are just a troll, they are only on here and #bash, they got pwnd over there05:18
KaiHanari* niceman2 (n=none@69-173-186-66.sbtnvt.adelphia.net) has joined #bash05:18
KaiHanariniceman2 hi bash is a shit shell05:18
KaiHanariTheBonsai then don't use it. easy enough?05:18
KaiHanarihavent said anything anywhere since.05:18
Kr4t05InuDuelist: You there?05:20
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InuDuelistKr4t05: Yeah, I'm here.05:33
InuDuelistWhat's up?05:33
Kr4t05InuDuelist: I can't seem to get my KBFX themes to stick.05:33
InuDuelistOh?05:34
InuDuelistWhat's the problem?05:34
Kr4t05InuDuelist: I open the KBFX config and go to the Themes tab.05:34
InuDuelistHave you reached the Config menu?05:34
InuDuelistOh.05:34
InuDuelistOK.05:34
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Kr4t05InuDuelist: I point it to the folder containing my themes (~/.kbfx/Themes) and select the theme I want to use. I press Apply.05:35
Kr4t05InuDuelist: Nothing changes.05:35
InuDuelist...05:35
InuDuelistHmm...05:35
InuDuelistLet's see.05:35
Kr4t05I press Reload, still nothing.05:36
InuDuelistTry pressing save.05:36
InuDuelist:P05:36
Kr4t05Nada05:36
InuDuelistLet's make sure that you at least have the mode set.05:36
InuDuelistGo to "Menu Style".05:36
Kr4t05Yeah05:36
Kr4t05KBFX SPINX05:37
InuDuelistHmm.05:37
InuDuelistGimme a minute.05:37
InuDuelistJust to make sure, you've selected to correct theme, right?05:37
Kr4t05Yes05:38
InuDuelistHm...05:39
InuDuelistTake a screenshot.05:39
Kr4t05I somehow stumbled onto it.05:39
InuDuelistI may be missing something.05:39
InuDuelistFixed?05:39
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Kr4t05InuDuelist: Install New Theme "Apply" Installed Theme "Apply', Save and Reload.05:40
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Kr4t05Gar.05:40
Kr4t05Well, that's one thing taken care of.05:41
Kr4t05All I need is a wallpaper and my transformation will be complete! :)05:41
D4rkly     /j #compiz05:41
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D4rklyanyone know how i run gconftool-2 to configure compiz ?05:42
InuDuelist...05:43
InuDuelistYou didn't apply?05:43
InuDuelist>_<05:43
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Kr4t05InuDuelist: You have to press two different ones, I think...05:44
WabsHey guys, what's the difference between the Kubuntu DVD .iso and the Live CD .iso, because I have both and i'm thinking of changing from Ubuntu to Kubuntu05:44
Kr4t05Wabs: AFAIK the Dapper Live CD is the install CD.05:45
WabsSo what's the DVD iso for?05:45
Kr4t05Oh, DVD...05:46
Kr4t05No clue, I haven't used the DVD version.05:46
Kr4t05If they were offered by shipit, I would get on of Edgy when realeased. :)05:46
D4rklyi got XGL and compiz running its wicked :) just follow this(read carefully and follow exactly. compiz-kde is not needed compiz-gnome works just fine) after installing and enabling nvidia gl drivers and emabling composite and hardware accel. in xorgconf https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl05:47
Wabswhen does Edgey Eft come out btw?05:47
Wabsit's a 6 month cycle now right05:47
JucatoDVD has more apps available for installation without the internet05:47
JucatoEdgy comes out in October05:47
Wabsthought so05:47
WabsIs it easy to upgrade from Dapper Drake to Edgy Eft?05:48
Kr4t05Waiting is so hard. ><05:48
DShepherdWabs: it depends on what you define as easy05:48
Jucatolol05:48
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WabsWell, is it just like, grab the newest version's iso via bittorrent, burn it to a cd or dvd, pop it in and upgrade, or does it appear in a list of updates, or would i go through terminal?05:49
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foxjwillHi. I have dapper with gnome and am trying to install kubuntu via apt-get kubuntu-desktop. but i keep getting this error: "Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed"05:50
HobbseeWabs: not at the moment05:50
DShepherdWabs: well not that I am recommending you to upgrade to edgy just yet.. but changing dapper to edgy in your sources.list should be find05:50
Hobbseefoxjwill: that would be dapper?05:51
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foxjwillyes05:51
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Hobbseefoxjwill: install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins05:51
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foxjwillok05:51
Hobbseeor at least i looked at it, and figured it out05:51
DShepherdHobbsee: boo boo?05:51
CapNemoanybody knows a good lib to use socket on c/c++ ?05:51
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HobbseeDShepherd: not mine.  i'm not sure what's broken there05:51
foxjwill"kdegraphics-kfile-plugins:05:51
foxjwill Depends: libpoppler1-qt but it is not going to be installed"05:51
Hobbseeinstall libpoppler1-qt as well then05:52
foxjwilllibpoppler1-qt:05:52
foxjwill  Depends: libpoppler1 (=0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed05:52
Hobbseenice.05:52
DShepherdheheh05:52
DShepherdseems pretty deep05:52
WabsDShepherd05:52
Hobbseehey what...05:52
DShepherdWabs: yes?05:53
Hobbseeoh yeah, that's the generally screwed up thing.05:53
WabsI'm not gonna play with the experimental version, but I mean when it comes out in a stable, i'll grab it 8)05:53
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Hobbseefoxjwill: you'd be using extra repos there?05:53
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DShepherdWabs: kool.. dont be like me ;-)05:53
foxjwillI was, but I removed them.05:53
WabsI'm a Linux newbie, so it's not my bag to be messing with experimentals yet05:54
WabsHell, I know Windows really well but I still don't play with the Vista betas05:54
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DShepherdWabs: k05:55
DShepherdWabs: your wise05:55
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Wabsmessed something up playing with the experimental, DShepherd?05:56
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DShepherdme.. I always mess stuff up :-D05:57
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Wabsyeah, that's why i don't wanna mess with it05:57
Wabsbut I think i'm gonna wait until Egdy Eft comes out to upgrade to Kubuntu, cuz nobody uses the Linux Laptop that much because the keyboard is missing keys, so i need to put in a new keyboard and PCMIA Wireless-B/G card05:58
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alex_hey everyone06:08
otaku-sanhey how would I change kubuntu to stop going to Konqueror for browsers and change it to Firefox?06:08
otaku-sanalex_: hello06:09
alex_why not just use the firefox shortcut directly?06:09
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alex_or you mean how to set it up as a default browser?06:09
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intelikeyotaku-san my question is why would you ?06:09
alex_hehe06:10
alex_I have the same question, why would you... really?06:10
otaku-sanintelikey: because I prefer Firefox over Konq....among other reasons...I don't hate Konq...just don't want to use it for webbrowsing06:11
intelikeygranted i'm no ff fan.  but konq is 'heep mo betta-n-good'06:11
DFMisn't konq... based of ff?06:12
otaku-sanbut for me my connection goes way slower than with Firefox....Anyways I have everything in Firefox...06:12
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otaku-sanyes Konq is based off of FF06:12
intelikeyotaku-san but to answer your Q  prefered application  iirc        (cli guy here)06:13
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intelikeyno based on mozilla    but so is everything but IE06:14
otaku-sanintelikey: what do you mean?06:14
intelikeyand i'm not sure IE is moz tech,06:14
jamadagnihello06:14
otaku-sannot about the based thing...but the other thing06:14
jamadagnican anyone tell me what the contents of /var/cache/apt/archive/partial are?06:15
jamadagnii know that /var/cache/apt/archives contains dloaded installation fiels06:15
intelikeyotaku-san set the prefered application   web browser to  ff06:15
jamadagnibut the partial directory does not seem to contain partially downloaded files06:15
jamadagnibut they are also fully donwloaded06:15
otaku-sanIE is taken off of some tiny little no name browser that was supremely buggy...Microsuck gobbled it up and spit out IE...sad freaks06:15
intelikeykcontrol06:15
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otaku-santhanks06:16
intelikeyjamadagni partial downloaded packages from the apt repos06:16
jamadagniwell they don't seem to be partially dlaoded06:16
jamadagnibut they are full files06:17
jamadagniyou may also notice that on a clean install system too, this folder contains some packages06:17
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intelikeyjamadagni do sudo apt-get linux-source   and hit [ctrl] +C when it starts downloading and it will leave the partial in that dir.   if you finish the dl it moves it to ../06:18
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intelikeyjamadagni you can safely sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*06:19
intelikeyand  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*    for that matter.06:20
gogetaor06:20
gogetaapt-get clean06:20
gogetalol06:20
gogetathat deletes alldownloadedfiles06:20
intelikeyno   sudo apt-get clean06:21
alex_does anyone know how to get the ATI drivers through the repos (I believe that's the term)06:21
gogetayes but there broken06:21
alex_I heard that if you manually install the drivers by downloading them from the website, then a kernel update will kill the X server06:21
gogetabetter to instakll the newer one from ati06:21
alex_ok06:21
intelikeyif you don't do it as root it rm's nothing06:22
gogetawellit doesent kill x06:22
intelikey!ati06:22
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:22
gogetabut you will lose your driver06:22
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gogetaand will ahve to reinstall it for the newer kernel06:22
alex_yes I know06:22
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alex_I heard there is a simply script to do it?06:23
alex_that comes with the driver package06:23
gogetawell you can genrate a binary deb06:23
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gogetaand it runs all the scripts nedded06:24
wweaselHi, I use Kopete under Gnome (sorry guys :P), and I am having an issue. I think it probably has to do with KDE settings, so I am asking here. When I receive a new message the taskbar flashes, even if I am in the chat windows already.06:24
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gogetaeasy06:24
gogetayour running it under gnome06:24
gogetalol06:24
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intelikeysounds like a gnome thing to me.06:25
intelikeya 'nome thang06:26
wweaselintelikey: I used to KMess and I didn't have this issue.06:26
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wweasel(The KDE chat clients have the gnome ones beat hands down.06:26
gogetanope06:26
gogetagaim ownz all of them06:26
wweaselgogeta: I disagree, I hate gaim. But, we all have our preferences. That's why we have KDE, Gnome, Kopete and Gaim...06:27
intelikeygaim smells of urine06:27
intelikeyi said it stinks.06:27
wweaselno, gaim thinks that the users want to hear a symphony of alert sound effects.06:28
intelikeycan you hear me now ?06:28
gogetalol06:28
gogetaturn them off06:28
intelikey:)06:28
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intelikeyi looked at gaim one time.   it's awful !06:29
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wweaselgogeta: It also likes to tell you every time your contact minimizes the window.06:29
intelikeyi think i'm being way too graphic........06:29
Modern_Mythevenin' ... does the latest kubuntu use arts by default?06:30
wweaselintelikey: But do you have any idea how I could fix this flashy taskbar thing?06:30
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intelikeywweasel actually no.   sorry to be so useless....06:30
InuDuelistMmm, bedtime.06:31
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intelikeywweasel i rarely startx and never gnome so ...06:31
gogetalol06:32
intelikeyin fact this box has not had an X server started sense i booted it up.06:32
intelikeytty2 [greg$~]  uptime06:32
intelikeyUptime: 27 days 23 hours 32 mins 04 sec06:32
gogetayes yes mr lag06:33
intelikeyhmmm been longer than i thought....06:33
gogetaill send you a ping lol06:34
gogetayouwilllag for 10minuts06:34
gogetalol06:34
intelikeyhehhe   this doesn't really look safe.06:34
intelikeytty21 [root@~]  cat /etc/sudoers06:34
intelikeyALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD06:34
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intelikeybet i dont06:35
intelikeybut you may  :)06:35
gogetai rember you laging relly bad forlike 2 dayslol06:35
intelikeyyeah data transfer on modem is      well as bad as gaim.06:36
gogetayourun without x lol06:36
intelikey:)06:36
gogetadoesent textmode get wellannoying06:36
intelikey!cli06:37
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:37
gogetalol06:37
gogetaiknoe how to use text only linux06:37
intelikeyi guess you never used a graphic browser in console frame buffer mode     or never watched a vidio on console before.06:38
gogetamypc at work suck and are text linux06:38
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gogetanaa i have used xninit befor06:39
gogetafor gaming06:39
gogetaso it has no overhead06:39
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intelikeywhat do you do in X that i can't (and might want too) in a console ?      key word may be "want"06:40
gogetabut for genrel use i use kde06:40
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gogetaweell some things dont support fb mode06:40
alex_!ati06:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:41
gogetaalso fb is slower then x06:41
gogetasence you cant use dri or any other typeof acell06:41
intelikeyfaster.   direct kernel fb    not some eumlated stuff06:42
gogetaoh06:42
gogetaback in my days dri fb was still very early06:42
gogetathey finnly got that working hua06:43
intelikeyoh well   dri   i wasn't including.  you may be right there....06:43
gogetastill softwhere renderd then06:43
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intelikeynot being a gammer and never using dri either way   i couldn't say.06:44
gogetasri is used for more then gaming06:44
gogetait acellsxaswell06:44
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intelikeybut with no dri  kernel fb is faster than X06:44
gogetayes06:44
gogetait wouldbe06:44
gogetax withoutdri is slow06:45
gogetavery very slow06:45
intelikeyyep06:45
wweaselI'm using Kopete under Gnome and I'm having a bit of an issue. When I receive a new message the taskbar starts flashing, even if I am already in the chat window.06:45
gogetailoadeda few 496pcswith slack and x sucks on them06:45
gogetadoes run thow06:46
wweaselArgh, sorry guys. I meant to put that in another channel06:46
draikHow do I send a file through my network?06:46
draikI want to force a file through06:46
wweaseldraik: Windows network? Samba06:46
draikNo windows... it's all Kubuntu06:46
intelikeywhat couple houndred fps ?06:46
draikboth of them06:46
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nargstart a ftp/ssh server on one of them?06:46
nargso you can use scp or ftp to move the file06:47
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draikI can't just send the file straight through with a command?06:47
gogetadidnt check there loaded very lightly06:47
gogetawindowmaker gui06:47
intelikeysshd06:47
intelikeyrsync06:47
nargdraik: you need to somehow log into the box your trying to send to06:47
draiksshd?06:48
nargthat will work yea.06:48
draikrsync?06:48
draiksudo apt-get install sshd     ?06:48
nargIf you just want simple transfer, do apt-get install sshd06:48
intelikeydraik you can reinvent the wheel if you want to,  but sshd is simple enough i can use it.     and i'm network illiterate.06:48
nargstart it on one of the boxes, and then use fish:// in konqueror on the other06:49
draikHow do I get sshd?06:49
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intelikeyyes06:49
nargapt-get install sshd06:49
draikI tried that06:49
debdraik: apt-get install openssh-server .06:49
draikE: Couldn't find package sshd06:49
intelikeydraik you said it.....   sudo apt-get install sshd06:49
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nargdeb: ah, your right06:49
draikdeb: It's downloading and all06:50
debdraik: sudo apt-get install openssh-client06:50
draikIs there a tut on this?06:50
nargtut?06:50
draiktutorial06:50
intelikeyoh they removed the meta package....   openssh-server - Secure shell server, an rshd replacement06:50
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narghrm, somewhere probably. Perhaps google it?06:51
debdraik: http://www.openssh.com/06:51
intelikeyman pages also06:51
draikok06:51
gogetajust search for it06:51
draikso I put server on the sender and client on the recipient?06:51
gogetamaybe its just ssh06:51
nargdraik: right.06:51
intelikeykong man://sshd06:51
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gogetasshd is the deamion06:51
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gogetaprobly aruldy installed06:52
debdraik: u need to have sshd running at server then only u can ssh to that perticular machine .06:52
draikkew06:52
Modern_MythWhat's the difference between the regualr and alternate isos?06:52
draikwell, my other Kubuntu machine says that the client is already installed06:53
debModern_Myth: I guess some advanced installation option are available .06:53
gogetaalt iso can run unintended06:53
gogetathere for mass installs06:53
debdraik: k. check if it's running . ps wax | grep ssh06:54
gogetareg is what 90% of peopleneed06:54
intelikeyModern_Myth if your new to linux you might like the live cd  (regular) installer    if you want to costumize your install in any way  better use the alternative.06:54
draikHow do I know if its running?06:55
Modern_Mythahhh ... no mass installing here. cool. is arts the default sound system? Not new, but new to ubuntu/debian06:55
debdraik: ps wax | grep ssh06:55
draikdid that06:55
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draikhow do I know if its running06:55
draikjust as long as it shows back info?06:55
debdraik: u should see something like  : 4364 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd06:55
nargit should say /sbin/sshd06:56
nargor /usr/sbin/sshd :)06:56
draik 5308 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager06:56
draik17931 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd06:56
debdraik: it's running .06:56
draik21900 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep ssh06:56
draikkew06:56
gogetaeasy enough to log in one of your pcs06:57
gogetassh its ip06:57
debdraik: try to ssh to some machine . ssh <username>@<ip>06:57
draikok06:57
gogetathat to06:57
draikssh <user>@<123.456.789.012>           ?06:57
gogetano<>06:58
draikright06:58
draikdidn't do any06:58
draikConnection refused06:58
gogetathe machines might not allow the conections06:58
gogetayou needto configure them06:58
debdraik: thhis means that sshd is not running at the machine u try to connect .06:59
intelikeyssh draik@localhost06:59
gogetanot relly06:59
draikIt's running on both06:59
nargI think sshd disallows interactive logins by default06:59
gogetamost liux installs have ssh but firewalled off06:59
gogetahe needs to enable it06:59
draikHow do I enable it?07:00
gogetahumm07:00
gogetaif it was a suse install its threw yast07:00
draikKubuntu?07:00
gogetabut i never enabled a kubunto system07:00
actinicssh - port 22 is open, right?07:00
draikhow do I check my ports?07:00
gogetayou need toopen port22on the firewall07:00
draikon the firewall07:01
intelikeynarg default... no  i don't think so.    ubuntu installs of ssh are pretty much ready to connect.   remember they are not about security.  they are about getting windows users happily linuxed07:01
gogetanolinuxdistro leaves ssh open lol07:01
gogetanot even these guys07:01
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narggogeta: you'd be surprised07:02
actinic!ssh07:02
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/07:02
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gogetahell even osx has ssh enabld but firewalled07:03
gogetaand thats all abought easeof use\07:03
gogetasame for samba07:03
draikLOL07:04
draikGreat07:04
draikit worked backwards07:04
draikLOL07:05
gogeta?07:05
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draikI can remote from laptop to desktop, not the other way around07:05
rredd4I have a 2400 series lexmark usb printer that is connected to a desktop computer that is usually in windows xp.  I have a laptop  that uses dapper and windoze.  I can share the printer in windoze.  Is it possible to do the same in dapper?  is there a wrapper that will work with the windoze driver?07:05
draikI want desktop to laptop07:06
intelikeygogeta well ubuntu has no firewall by default.07:06
gogetahumm07:06
intelikeyso run the server on the other.07:06
gogetamaybe the laptop doesent have ssh installed07:06
intelikeydraik ^07:06
draikit does07:06
gogetathe server07:06
draikit said it did07:06
draikand that it was the latest version07:06
intelikeynow what you gonna do with that gogeta ?07:07
gogetalol make shure you have the correct ip try again07:07
draikI do07:07
draikintelikey, will try that next07:07
draikdeb, thank you for your help07:07
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draikgogeta and intelikey, thank you for your patience as well07:07
gogetaset c4 on the desktop07:07
gogetaproblem fixed07:08
gogetaforever07:08
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intelikeydraik is the sshd running on the box you are trying to ssh into ?07:08
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intelikeyyou can ssh into localhost to test it.07:08
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draikit's running on both07:08
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draikI am currently installing the server on the laptop07:09
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intelikeyssh draik@localhost  will test the box you run it on.  it uses loop back   so   lo 127.0.0.1   must be up to ssh into lcalhost    (ip can vary)07:10
draikyup07:10
draikI can connect to my own localhost07:10
intelikey"<draik> it's running on both" ++ "<draik> I am currently installing the server on the laptop"    how can it be running and also being installed ?07:10
intelikeythen the remote should be able to connect to it.07:11
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draikI did the test on both "ps wax | grep ssh" and both were running07:11
gogetathe server and client are 2 diffrent programs07:12
draikI installed the server on the desktop and the client was already installed on the laptop07:12
gogetathats why it worked backwords07:12
gogetalol07:12
draikso now I installed the server on the laptop07:12
gogetalaptop should be ready now then07:12
intelikeyposable firewall   or altered /etc/ssh/sshd.conf     or  /etc/hosts.deny   those can break it for you.07:13
intelikeybut generally yes.07:13
michael__hey all, quick question... is the update fixed now?  just installed on new and dont wanna futz it up..07:13
gogetanaa these are fresh instalsnofirewall07:13
draikperfect, I'm in07:13
draikwoohoo07:13
gogetaitshould work by default07:13
gogetaand itjust did07:13
gogetalol07:13
draikyup07:13
draikyippy!07:13
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rredd4is there software available to use windows printer drivers for dapper?  my printer does not have a linux driver07:14
gogetait would be wise toblock port22 from outsideconnections from the net at the roughter level07:14
nargor just disallow password logins on sshd.07:15
intelikeygogeta which blows your  "<gogeta> nolinuxdistro leaves ssh open lol07:15
gogetashure did07:15
gogetarembers tofirewallkubunto later07:15
gogetalol07:15
intelikeygogeta yes.  or turn sshd off on the box they can hit.07:16
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gogetamy boxes are a xbox/modbox pc and a imac07:16
BlindDevoshunrembers tofirewalkubunto later07:16
gogetalol07:17
gogetai just cleaned this keybord keys still stiff07:17
intelikeygogeta like i said *buntu is not at all about security.   not in any way shape form or fashion.   they are all about "get that windows **** happily linuxed at all costs"07:17
draikHow do you turn off sshd?07:17
gogetadisable it at boot07:18
draikhow?07:18
BlindDevoshunlol07:18
gogetaarg07:18
debdraik: killall sshd07:18
draikcan I do that now, or only at boot?07:18
gogetakillall works anytime07:18
intelikeydraik sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop     then use update-rc.d to switch it so it doesn't restart at boot07:18
gogetayou can make it neverload by default07:18
gogetathen instaeedof stopuse start07:19
draikkew07:19
gogetawhen you whant it on07:19
intelikeyman update-rc.d07:19
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intelikeygogeta as far as that goes.   sshd   works anytime too  :)07:20
intelikeyroot that  ^07:20
timbbastill new to kubuntu and linux, so i need some help again..07:20
gogetalol07:20
timbbaI installed styleclock for kde, but how can I start it?07:21
gogetamy newbie linux days i managedto crash the system07:21
intelikeyask if it's ok to ask if it's ok to ask a question first.07:21
gogetalol07:21
gogetayes i crashed linux07:21
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intelikey:)07:21
gogetaa redhat system07:21
gogetalol07:21
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deoptimacan i ask something?07:22
gogetaof course07:22
intelikeylol @ deoptima07:22
deoptimahow so you decompress a bz2 file?07:22
deoptimai had to ask if i could ask07:22
gogetathers a few ways07:22
deoptimaok command line07:22
gogetabunzip2 -d file07:22
gogetayou can doit with tar as well but i forgotthe command07:23
draikThank you deb, gogeta and intelikey07:23
intelikeytimbba try konsole    style[TAB]         see if it dont complete the command for you.07:23
deoptimasweet works like a charm i tried bunzip but not bunzip207:23
deoptima[tab]  rocks07:24
gogetayea commion mastake07:24
timbbaintelikey: it doesn't complete..07:24
intelikeydeoptima bunzip blah07:24
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intelikeytimbba hmmm     let me check.07:25
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intelikeyoh timbba that may not be an app   just skins for the clock app    try right click the clock and properties07:27
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timbbatried that too, but can't find the styleclock there..07:28
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intelikeyactually it says it has an executable.      timbba do this.    dpkg -L styleclock | grep 'bin/'07:29
intelikeysee if that shows anything.07:30
timbbanothing07:30
intelikeywell that's not good.07:30
intelikeygive me a sec07:31
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intelikeyi'm getting it now.  it takes me long time  'dialup'07:32
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BlindDevoshunchampagne grapes are good too though07:32
intelikeytimbba open    /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/fashionclock/index.docbook07:35
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timbbaok07:36
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timbbawhat now? opened it by kate07:37
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intelikeytimbba let me try one more time.    i'll see if i can make this painless.      in konqueror  dubble click    /usr/share/apps/kicker/applets/styleclock.desktop    and see what happens07:39
intelikeytimbba how did that work out ?07:41
timbbait gives me an error that the file doesn't have a Type=...07:42
BlindDevoshunwhat has magda seen that is so important07:44
intelikeymercy me.       if you can't find it in the add to pannel menu you must be SOL    </shrugs>07:44
intelikeythere is nothing else executable in that package.07:44
timbbanow it works... sorry for my stupidity.. add to panel, of course... I just supposed that it would replace my clock..07:46
DiabolicIs there a Windows Media Player plugin for Linux?07:46
intelikeytimbba i think it would have on a restart of X   not sure though.07:47
intelikeyplugin ?07:47
intelikey!mplayer07:47
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer07:47
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.07:47
intelikey!vlc07:47
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs07:47
Diabolicintelikey: For web browsers.07:48
timbbathanks intelikey07:48
intelikeyDiabolic take your pick ^07:48
intelikeytimbba yeah no problem.  sorry i took the long way around.   just assumed you checked the obvious first....07:49
kevjavaDiabolic: Try apt-get install mozilla-mplayer.07:49
michael__diabolic-http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/multimedia/07:49
_rince_mrgn07:49
michael__lotsa answers out there07:49
kevjavaDiabolic: It's in the multiverse repo07:50
Diabolickevjava: k, but would it work for Opera as well?07:50
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intelikeylike i said.   take your pick.   there is xine and mplayer plugins as well as other answers.07:50
DiabolicYep.07:51
kevjavaHmm.. dunno, I don't really use opera... maybe it's like konqueror and uses mozilla plugins, though.07:51
DiabolicThanks.07:51
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intelikeywell fellaz,  i'm went.07:51
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jamadagnihello i am trying to create a local repo using dpkg-scanpackages and it says:07:54
jamadagniPackages in archive but missing from override file:07:54
jamadagniwhat to do?07:54
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Diabolic!codecs07:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:56
BlindDevoshun!codecs07:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:57
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spazzno programs will open.08:04
spazz... argh.08:04
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BlindDevoshunhahaha08:05
jamadagnihello can anyone help me?08:05
spazzi can help you break something08:05
spazzif thats what you need08:05
jamadagnioh ocme on -- i asked a q above about an error08:05
spazz... today?08:06
spazzi wasnt looking in here.08:06
spazzi just opened the window.08:06
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madhatter_can somebody tell me how to install a package off the internet?08:06
jamadagni i am trying to create a local repo using dpkg-scanpackages and it says:08:07
jamadagniPackages in archive but missing from override file:08:07
jamadagni what to do?08:07
jamadagni@madhatter_ - pl be more specific. is the package available from the ubuntu repos or no?08:07
Jucatoguess the experts are still out...08:07
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Jucato[ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/08:07
spazzThe forums ate my computers soul.08:08
JucatoO_o08:08
spazz>-<08:08
madhatter_qt23-dev-tools08:08
spazzArgh! I just installed Frostwire.08:08
madhatter_trying to get wifi working :P08:08
spazzBuuuuuuuuuuuuut it won't open. It tries to. But it doesn't.08:08
spazzPrograms have been refusing to launch lately.08:09
spazzWhat's that mean?08:09
Jucatomadhatter_: don't you mean qt3-dev-tools?08:09
madhatter_lol08:09
madhatter_yes08:09
madhatter_ty08:09
Jucatomadhatter_: you can install it from the repositories08:09
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Jucato!qt3-dev-tools08:10
ubotuqt3-dev-tools: Qt3 development tools. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1194 kB, installed size 4096 kB08:10
madhatter_i downloaded a tar/gz file (cant remember) and don't know how to make it work08:10
Jucatomadhatter_: there's no need for you to do that08:10
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Jucatobecause the package you are trying to install can be installed from the repositories, using Adept (or apt-get)08:11
madhatter_Jucato: I am brand new at linux, and was barely able to install make / gcc, can you explain how to install from a repo?08:11
jamadagni@Jucato: while using dpkg-scanpackages I get an error;  Packages in archive but missing from override file:08:11
jamadagnican you please help?08:11
jamadagni@madhatter: open adept08:11
Jucatojamadagni: unfortunately, I have no experience in that field08:11
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madhatter_adept open08:11
Jucatomadhatter_: look for qt3-dev-tools08:12
Jucatoin Adept, I mean08:12
spazzwtf08:12
spazzFrostwire wont open. Makes no frekaing sense.08:12
madhatter_jucato, its not there08:13
spazzhow the heck do you even fix a problem like that?08:13
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madhatter_apt-get told me it couldn't find it either08:13
jamadagni@spazz: try opening it from a konsole session08:13
jamadagniyou will get error messages there08:13
Jucatomadhatter_: it means that you don't have your repositories enabled.08:13
madhatter_ok, so what next?08:13
Jucatomadhatter_: in Adept, go to Adept menu and select Manage Repositories08:13
spazzsaying i need to update java and use the SUN version.08:14
spazzI thought I already isntalled the sun version.08:14
Jucatomadhatter_: you will notice a lot of the lines are grayed out08:14
spazzHow do I check what I have installed?08:14
Jucato!java08:14
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository08:14
madhatter_jucato: i see.08:14
Jucatospazz: check the section about selecting the Java version08:14
Jucatomadhatter_: now, right-click on the lines that start with "deb" (not "deb-src")08:15
spazzim installing the package above08:15
Jucatospazz: even if you have installed Sun Java, you need to enable it as the default java08:15
madhatter_jucato: ok, now adept should work??08:15
spazzhow do i do that?08:15
Jucatothe link I gave has a section for that08:16
madhatter_or apt get i mean...08:16
Jucatomadhatter_: it should. but you have to click on Apply (at the bottom) and then Fetch Updates after you have enabled those lines)08:16
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Jucatomadhatter_: you might also want to take a look at this Desktop Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html08:17
Jucatospecially the part about Adding, Removing and Updating Applications08:17
madhatter_jucato: thank you so much, i've been working at this for a week now08:17
Jucatomadhatter_: K Menu > Help would be your friend. The Desktop Guide can also be found there for offline reading08:17
Jucatoit's very easy to understand, and written with beginners in mind08:18
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madhatter_i will make sure to check that out ; )08:19
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ijeffHello.. does anyone know if there's a way to completely remove all KDE + KDE suite apps?08:20
ijeffI'd like to install the Ubuntu GNOME package instead08:21
ijeffis there anyway to do so without a total re-installation?08:21
Jucatoijeff: it's possible, but not easy08:21
ijeffHow can it be done?08:21
ijeffOr would it mean manually removing each application?08:21
Jucatowell, in a way, it's like that, but maybe this page could help you: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php08:22
Jucatothere's a guide there about installing GNOME over Kubuntu or Xubuntu08:22
Jucatoand then removing KDE (Pure Gnome)08:22
ijeffThanks ^_^08:22
Jucatobut I would personally prefer a fresh install, if you're really sure you want to kick out KDE08:23
ijeffI can't get ahold of a Ubuntu Dapper disc..08:23
ijeffand dist-upgrade is kind of sloppy08:23
Jucatoijeff: you only have a breezy installer?08:23
ijeffyes08:24
Jucatoah I see.08:24
ijeffIf I were to dist-update with my Breezy..08:24
ijeffwill it update my boot loading screen and such as well?08:24
Jucatoif you install ubuntu-desktop over Kubuntu, the bootsplash will be changed to Ubuntu. Then during the installation, you will be asked whether you want KDM or GDM as the default08:25
ijeffoh that's great08:26
ijeffI'll do that then, along with that Pure GNOME guide08:26
ijeffthanks08:26
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ijeffcan Kubuntu be removed by remove kubuntu-desktop? or when it's a full install i must do it manually?08:26
Jucatothe Pure GNOME page gives you the instructions you need...08:27
JucatoI'm presuming you have upgrade to Dapper already?08:28
ijeffthis install, was from a Dapper Kubuntu disc08:28
Jucatoaah08:28
ijeffI want to switch to an Ubuntu build08:28
ijeff(complete conversion)08:28
Jucatono, you can't use aptitude remove if it's a complete installation08:28
ijeffokay, so the manual way from Pure Gnome then?08:29
Jucatoyep, the apt-get remove <long list>08:29
ijeffokay, great08:29
ijeffI'm in the process of installing GNOME-Desktop08:29
ijeffthat's the one for complete gnome right?08:29
Jucatoijeff: better install ubuntu-desktop08:30
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ijeffoh that's what I meant (typo) sorry08:30
Jucatook... the "Install GNOME" page is your guide08:30
ijeffI did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:30
Jucatoerr08:30
Jucatoyou should use aptitude instead...08:30
ijeffwhat's the difference?08:30
Jucatojust like what the guide says08:30
Jucatoerr.. nvm08:31
ijeff><08:31
Jucatoyou're sure you won't go back to KDE right?08:31
draikJucato, I read the link you sent me... VERY interesting08:31
ijeffyes08:31
Jucatodraik: hehehe08:31
ijeffpositive :)08:31
draikIt's been going on for 3 years or so... hope to see if anything really happens08:31
ijeff(if ever not, I have my Kubuntu disc)08:31
Jucatoijeff: ehehehe08:31
Jucatodraik: yeah, I really hope so. btw, if you want some more info about other KDE-related SoC projects08:32
Jucatoerr my mistake..08:32
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Jucatonot SoC... SoK08:32
draik?08:32
draikSoK?08:32
JucatoSeasons of KDE08:32
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ijeffJucato: so apt-get install is fine? what would be the difference?08:32
JucatoSoC = Google's Summer of Code08:32
draikI need to look into that.. SoC... sounds like something I can get into08:33
Jucatowell, that really depends..08:33
Jucato(that was for draik)08:33
ijeff(I know ^ ^)08:34
Jucatoijeff: while you're waiting for everything to install.... http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude08:34
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ijeffah cool thx08:34
draikI am looking into it ATM08:34
Jucatodraik: koolness08:34
spazzO M G08:34
spazzBITTORRENT WORKING NOW08:34
spazzlol08:34
Jucatospazz: ehehehe08:34
Jucatousing what?08:34
spazzlmao. I installed Bittorrent (BitTornado)08:35
Jucatodraik: this: http://lwn.net/Articles/193723/  and this: http://lwn.net/Articles/193724/08:35
Jucatospazz: eheheh! go for it!08:35
draikspazz, none of my torrent clients ever work08:35
spazzSeems to be picky about some torrens though. Like, tried a Family Guy torrent and it had some kinda error like it wouldn't even conenct to peers.08:35
madhatter_Jucato: i ran into a problem following an Ubuntu wiki, is it possible you can take a brief look at it?08:35
ijeffjucato: hmm aptitude looks more efficient08:36
spazzdraik - yea ... it's been a hassle to get things running right here.08:36
Jucatomadhatter_: if I can help..08:36
madhatter_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT250008:36
Jucatoijeff: yeah, but the only problem is that if you're going to make Ubuntu your main system08:36
Jucatoijeff: you might want to be able to remove ubuntu-desktop at one point or another08:36
madhatter_Jucato: i am at 3.3.408:37
spazzWhat's ubuntu-desktop?08:37
Jucatomadhatter_: I'll check. I'm not familiar with WiFi though08:37
ijeffjucato: this is a temporary computer of mine (until I order my new iMac) so I format a lot on this machine08:37
spazz... lol @ ijeff - I'm getting a Mac too ... in like.. lol... prob another year when I have enough money saved up lol.08:37
madhatter_Jucato: i ran into my problem when i did make, and it gave me an error but said don't worry, so i moved on and my computer froze when i activated the card08:38
spazzstill have to turbo teh car and all lol08:38
Jucatospazz: the metapackage which installs Ubuntu's selection of GNOME apps and Ubuntu's default settings08:38
ijeffspazz: I broke my Powerbook G4 17" =(08:38
spazzaww.08:38
ijeffspazz: Logic board failure I believe08:38
Jucatomadhatter_: did you install "build-essential" ??08:38
madhatter_Jucato: yes.08:38
ijeffspazz: forgot to apply the extended warrenty... sucks08:38
spazzI can't wait to get a Macbook Pro ... then can have all three OS's on there... lol running at once. Can have all my games, all my OSX stuff ... and be able to tinker with Linux too (woo...xgl)08:39
ijeffspazz: waiting for new chips, then getting iMac 20"08:39
Jucatomadhatter_: sorry, I'm not familiar with WiFi so I can't really help...08:39
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madhatter_Jucato: cool thanks anyway08:39
ijeffspazz: I long to see the day when all OSes can be interchangable and usable all at once, without virtualization =)08:39
D4rklyhow do i install kxdocker ?08:39
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ijeffjucato: hmm how long does ubuntu-desktop usually take to install? I'm considering heading off to bed08:40
spazz... that's why they are coming out with those new chips.08:40
Jucatoijeff: almost half as long as it took Kubuntu to install....08:40
spazzThat have the built in virtualization. So... can run stuff parrallell with no slowdown.08:40
osirissudo apt-get install kxdocker ?  D4rkly ?08:40
ijeffjucato: don't remember how long it too kubuntu to install XD lol08:40
Jucatoijeff: unfortunately, it will be asking you some questions that you might want to answer08:40
ijeffjucato: it already asked me the gdm one.. what others are there?08:41
D4rklyi have it installed but how do i enable it ?08:41
Jucatoijeff: I really can't tell. downloading speeds and installation may vary08:41
Jucatoijeff: it's installing already? finished downloading?08:41
ijeffjucato: quite awhile ago08:41
Jucatooh...08:41
Jucatoit won't take long...08:41
ijeffjucato: before you sent me the last link :)08:41
Jucatoehehe08:41
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ijeffuh oh08:42
D4rklyhow do i run kxdocker ?08:42
ijeffdpkg: error processing gnome-games-data (--configure):08:42
ijeff subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 108:42
ijeffdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gnome-games:08:42
ijeff gnome-games depends on gnome-games-data (= 1:2.14.3-0ubuntu1); however:08:42
ijeff  Package gnome-games-data is not configured yet.08:43
ijeffdpkg: error processing gnome-games (--configure):08:43
ijeff dependency problems - leaving unconfigured08:43
ijeffSetting up libgnome-mag2 (0.12.5-0ubuntu2) ...08:43
ijeffE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly08:43
ijeffjeff@JeffNix:~$08:43
ijeffXD sorry for spam08:43
ijeffis that bad?08:43
Jucatoijeff: don't paste like that08:43
Jucato!pastebin08:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:43
ijeff(yeah I forgot about pastebin ><)08:43
ijeffWas the install interupted?08:43
Jucatoijeff: try running "sudo dpkg --configure -a"08:44
ijeffinterrupted or did it finish without gnome-games?08:44
Jucatoif it wasn't finished, it would continue with that command08:44
ijeffoh it's installing it again :) thanks08:44
ijeffthe -a command means what?08:44
Jucatoall08:45
ijeffdpkg?08:45
Jucatodpkg - package manager for Debian08:45
spazzFREAKING YES! I figured out how to make Frostwire work now!08:45
Jucatospazz: nice!08:45
ijeffspazz: congrats ^ ^08:45
Jucatoijeff: to get some ideas about commands, go to Konqueror and type in: man:/<command> for example, man:/dpkg08:46
ijeffah yes man08:46
ijeff"man"08:46
Jucatoalthough, man can be crytpic at times, for us mere mortals08:47
ijeffmaybe not for the developers ;) lol08:47
ijeffHopefully I'll learn to.. >_<08:48
ijeffcode08:48
spazzWait, frostwire gave me error. think it might still work tho08:48
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ijeffspazz: what error?08:48
spazzI am putting it in pastbin.08:48
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ijeffwell I'm off to bed.. I'm beginning to doze off08:49
ijeffThank you very much for your help Jucato08:49
ijeffhope to see you around again08:50
spazzsee ya ijeff08:50
Jucatoheheh! i'm always here.. at least most of the time08:50
Jucatobye!08:50
spazzcome back in here soon08:50
ijeffGoodnight everyone :)08:50
ijeffWill do08:50
spazznite08:50
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ijeff*passes out* = =zzzZZzzz08:50
spazzhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/15162508:51
spazzThere's the error I got in the terminal whenever I launched Frostwire.08:52
spazzWonder what that means, can't find any Google results on it.08:52
JucatoO_o08:52
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spazzI don't know though, but my files downloaded in Frostwire.08:53
spazzJust ... some warning.08:53
stoicugh... 2s lag08:53
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stoichello all08:54
spazzsays my lag is 115ms08:54
spazzHi.08:54
Jucatoall says hi to stoic08:54
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stoicthankyou08:54
stoici feel loved08:55
Jucatohehehe08:55
spazzlol.08:55
spazzwoo. finally can download songs and movies lol.08:56
spazzim happy about that.08:56
spazznow i can live with linux lol. until something breaks.08:56
Jucatolol08:57
stoiclol08:57
JucatoI give you 2 days tops08:57
Jucatoehehehe08:57
spazzI give it about 8 hours.08:57
JucatoI'm too kind...08:57
spazz... or whenever I decide to take on XGL/Compiz again. lol.08:57
stoici think somthing just broke08:57
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spazzDon't jinx it. You might cause everyone's box to explode.08:57
stoicyeah... best not08:58
spazzFound a hack... to trick websites into thinking that your Flash 7 is Flash 9...08:58
spazzWhich ... is supposed to make the audio/video sync problem better or go away.08:59
stoicthat sounds usefull... might you share with us?08:59
spazzyea just a min08:59
spazzhttp://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/14/flash-9-for-xubuntu/09:00
spazzSupposed to make some sites that normally wouldn't work, work.09:00
spazzLike, Myspace, Youtube, ect.09:00
spazzAlthough ... Youtube doesn't seem TOO bad. Not perfect, but eh ...09:00
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spazzI changed the default sound server that flash uses through firefox.09:00
spazzin a config file.09:00
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stoiccool, thankyou09:01
spazzI want to download some TV series ....... like seaons at once.09:01
spazzBut I'm looking at it ........ ones like 6GB.09:02
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spazzLOL ... I don't think my ISP would like that.09:02
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stoichmmm... what ISP do you use?09:03
spazzComcast, but I mean ... that's 6GB of illegal tv downloading right there lol.09:03
spazzI think they look for stuff like that.09:03
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spazzOr like, the one time I tried downloading the internet to floppy disks with dial up lol.09:04
stoici have heard of people getting their net blackflagged just because of massive ammounts of incomming information, weather it be identified or not09:04
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spazzyea... why i try to stay away from bittorent.09:04
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spazzI'll usually have like ... 700mb files downloading (3 or so at once) about ... 2 times a week.09:04
spazzSo that's probably09:04
spazz... I think I can easily pull 10-15gb from the internet a week lol.09:04
spazzHave to go right behind and delete shit though cuz I'm out of room.09:05
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spazzJust ... more convenient way of watching tv. Hate ..damn commercials, and waiting .. want to skip around if I want to...09:05
stoicummmm.... i at one point had 3 terrabytes of downloaded.... well... i wont admit to anything so we will just call it.... tacos09:06
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stoicyes... i downloaded 3 terrabytes of... tacos....09:06
stoic*cough*09:06
spazzYea, taco1.jpg , taco2.jpb, taco3wet-tshirt-contest.mpg09:06
spazzthat type thing09:06
spazzlol09:06
spazzWoah. Wonder what kind of file a jpb is, lol wut u been downloading...09:07
stoicmaybe... again i will not admit to it online09:07
plugslolz09:07
spazzlol.09:07
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z-rodownload divergence eve 1st season09:10
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spazzwtf.09:11
spazzWell. Now I want to know what Divergence Eve is..09:11
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keittoruokaaoho09:13
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spazzhi keittoruokaa09:14
keittoruokaahello09:14
stoichello09:14
spazzWhat are you up to?09:14
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keittoruokaaJust wondering here :)09:15
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spazzlol.09:15
keittoruokaadamn its lot of ppl here ^_*09:15
spazzI am trying to get everything to work right here.09:15
spazzYea, but they just sit in here. At any given time there is probably 5 people talking at once.09:15
spazz... find that.. to be the case with majority of IRC rooms.09:15
spazzmore or less a support channel tho, lol.09:16
keittoruokaahehe... I guess everyone is just trying to get high uptime while idle09:16
Jucatoehehe09:16
spazzyea, lol. or they just leave their apps open09:16
stoichaha09:16
Jucatosometimes more than 5...09:16
spazzand are like, ha ha can windows do that09:16
keittoruokaahahaha09:16
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Jucatosome of the parked nicks here are KDE or Kubuntu developers, btw...09:17
spazz... I want a windows box around though.09:17
Jucatoothers are channel ops09:17
spazz... so I'm getting a Mac eventually lol. (OSX, Linux, Windows for teh games) all on same comp.09:17
keittoruokaalol I'm at school an ppl is using Cygwin, they are training linux commands using Linux emulate program :D09:17
osiristhere are also some of us that park to read the logs, and see what we can learn from others issues09:17
keittoruokaaBut I have my own "server" computer with real Linux :p09:18
spazzI used Cygin once. Not sure why I even downloaded it, but ... never did anything with it.09:18
stoic<("<)      <(" )^   ^(")^    ^( ")>    (>")>09:18
spazz.... wonder if i have logging.09:18
spazzYea, I like being in here cuz I can read other people's problems and how they fix them.09:18
keittoruokaaheh, it doesnt have any good commands like atp-get or aptitude :) so it sux09:18
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Jucatotime for my usual advertisements...09:18
Jucato[ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/09:18
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keittoruokaaO_o09:19
keittoruokaaI guess I just violated that rule ^^09:19
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paul___oops09:19
spazzI just joined lol.09:19
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spazzOk. Now I have a issue to tackle!09:19
spazzAnd it was under 8 hours!!09:20
spazz(cough)09:20
stoichm... is there no admin here?09:20
word|sleepUmm..is there a command that gets simmilar output to the windows 'ipconfig' ?09:20
Jucatoyou want me to call them stoic? ehehe09:20
stoicifconfig09:20
Jucatoifconfig09:20
stoicno thats ok09:20
stoici just noticed it09:20
spazzIn Konqueror - when I right click on an image and try to set it as wallpaper... it just turns my dekstop into the default color.09:20
Jucatohmmm09:21
spazzArgh, how do I fix that? Cuz I like to browse through all my thumbnails at once to select a new wallpaper. Unless there's another way to do that.09:21
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Jucatospazz: can you choose the same pictures/images using the Configure Desktop dialog box (right-click on desktop)09:22
spazzYea, but I can't see all the pictures at once.09:22
stoichey spazz, thanks for that hack... it worked on my flashplayer09:23
spazzIt makes me select an invidual file to preview them. I want to see the entire folder at once as thumbnails.09:23
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spazzstoic - lol it did? What site did you test it on?09:23
stoicmyspace09:23
word|sleepthanks stoic and Jucato. :D09:23
stoicthe most annoying web page in the world when it comes to that stuff09:23
spazzlmao.09:23
stoicnp word|sleep09:24
spazzyea. i know about the myspace ....09:24
spazzfriend is nuts about it.09:24
stoici haven't visited that site for.... a long time... but i figured this would be a good chance to test how crappy it still is09:24
Jucatoargh.. social networking sites....09:24
spazz... eh. I like youtube though.09:25
zerowhere to download divergence eve09:25
spazzwhat is that about? i never did look it up09:25
spazzsome kinda sci fi series?09:25
Jucatospazz: I have a trick for you... about the wallpaper thingy09:25
Jucatospazz: right-click on the desktop > Configure Desktop > then click on the folder icon so you can browse for your images09:26
spazzyea?09:26
spazzi did that09:26
Jucatoinside the dialog box that launches, right-click select View > Thumbnails09:26
spazzit just .. shows file list.09:26
spazzthere's no .......... what?09:26
spazzI looked there. eh ... cuz that's first thing i thought to do. maybe i overlooked it.09:26
Jucato.......09:26
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spazzargh hold on lol let me look again09:26
zeroany place for direct anime downloads09:28
Jucatospazz: you get a dialog box that shows you a list of folder and files right?09:28
spazz..... yea09:28
spazzBut ... I have to click on each one to see what it is.09:28
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Jucatoright-click on an empty space in that dialog box09:28
Jucatoright-click on an empty space....09:29
spazz....... I want to be able to see them all at once, so I can look at which ever one looks coolest and then use it.09:29
spazzok09:29
spazzAUGH! i cant believe it was that simple.09:29
spazzI was trying to go through all the menus.09:29
Jucato....09:29
spazz...09:29
spazzlol i like how u can zoom into the icons09:29
stoiclets see how easy it is to get banned from the windows channel...09:29
Jucatoehehe09:29
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stoicand i have been banned09:31
spazzfrom where?09:32
spazzoh LOL09:32
spazzjust read above09:32
stoicwindows room09:32
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Tm_Terr09:35
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Tm_Tkids09:35
spazzhi.09:35
Jucatokids?09:36
stoic?09:36
stoichm wonder what hes doing...(blazed)09:37
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spazzwtf kde kicker just crashed09:37
spazz... argh!09:37
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spazzdefinately way under 8 hours.09:37
Jucatolol09:37
JucatoI was about to say that09:37
spazznow ... only this window09:37
spazzand konq is open09:37
spazzeverything else is gone09:38
JucatoAlt+F2, then "kicker"09:38
Tm_T10:20 < stoic> hm... is there no admin here?09:38
Tm_Twhat was that?09:38
Tm_Tkeittoruokaa: nice nick09:39
stoici didn't think there was an admin here09:39
Jucatostoic: there are. they're just not opped09:39
spazzcrap09:39
spazzit keeps crashing!!09:39
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stoicgotcha09:39
Tm_Tstoic: yeah, it's part of freenode way, to gain op status only when needed09:40
stoiccool09:40
spazzdamnit. now my instant messenger crashed too.09:40
JucatoI hear a reboot coming...09:41
stoicwtf are you doing to that computer?\09:41
spazzargh. someone needs to take care of that myth09:41
spazzabout not having to reboot linux ever09:41
spazzI just ... tried changing the wallpaper09:41
spazzand kicker crashed.09:41
Jucatono one ever said about not having to reboot Linux "ever"09:41
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spazzthen i got an IM ... and the kopete crashed.09:41
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stoicwow....09:41
Jucatospazz: try restarting just X? eheheh09:41
spazzmy apps still run in the background?09:42
Jucatosome would09:42
stoicyeah, theyll run just fine, at least some will09:42
Jucatoactually only those that were started before X, I think09:42
spazzhow do i know which ones will and woont?09:42
osirisif they depend on X to run, they wont stay running09:43
spazzwell. looks like kopete depends on x.09:43
spazzill brb when i log out and in09:43
stoicirc doesnt09:43
Jucatoalmost everything KDE depends on X... almost...09:43
stoicnvm...09:43
Jucatostoic: yes it does, if you're using Konversation09:43
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stoicah09:43
Jucatoor even irssi, if you're running it in Konsole09:43
osirislinux users need to learn how to deal w/o X09:44
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Jucatoirssi ftw!!09:44
Tm_Tirssi <309:44
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Tm_TI keep my irssi in screen, in separate shellserver :p09:44
stoicosiris: i agree09:45
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pielgrzymhello, could someone tell me how to remove software I compiled and installed myself (not through the packet manager)?09:45
osirishttp://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=556.009:45
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pielgrzymI need to recompile amarok to enable debugging09:45
stoici admit i am not 100% unreliable on X, but im working on i09:45
Jucatopielgrzym: if you still kept the directory where you ./configure, make, and make install, just do "sudo make uninstall"09:46
pielgrzymJucato: and if I deleted it? :(09:46
Jucatopielgrzym: hm... doesn't it appear in Adept or in other package managers?09:46
osirisscrewed unles you know where it wound up09:46
pielgrzymnope09:47
pielgrzymwait09:47
pielgrzymthe dir is in the trash09:47
pielgrzymI'll bring it back09:47
Tm_T=)09:47
Jucatoosiris: doesn't the KDM login screen have an option for Console Login?09:47
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stoicyes, it does09:47
Tm_TJucato: should have09:47
osirisbut kdm still runs in the background09:47
Jucatoit does? hm..09:47
pielgrzymwill it remove all dependant stuff? I just want to remove only amarok to recompile it with debugging enabled :)09:47
osirisand if X fails kdm wont boot09:47
JucatoAlt+F1....09:48
Jucatoosiris: you and Hawkwind are business partners in LFD?09:48
osirisno09:48
osirisi am just a former mandriva user, that has "made the switch"09:49
Jucatoso was Hawkwind. ehehe09:49
osirishe IS a good friend of mine, and has taught me alot.  THAT i cant deny09:49
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anhey guys09:51
stoichello09:51
Jucatohi09:51
anhow can i configure my kmplayer? the color of the movie is too bright09:51
anhow can i configure it to more dark?09:52
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Jucatohm.. brb09:52
osirisidk where the video equalizers are in that program09:52
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osirisi use gmplayer, or vlc09:52
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ananybody use kmplayer?09:54
stoicsorry no09:54
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ananybody use mplayer?10:02
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sir_hcanyone around here that can help me login to the rescue prompt?10:03
Admiral_Chicagosir_hc, what the problem10:04
Admiral_Chicagothe "recovery mode" or failsafe10:04
sir_hci select rescue mode from grub10:05
sir_hci have to press ctrl c to skip configuring network interfaces10:05
sir_hc(coz that's the problem i need fixed)10:05
sir_hcthen i enter the first command (to open up a file in vi) and it does nothing10:05
sir_hci hard rebooted10:05
sir_hctried another command, nothing10:05
sir_hcit just sits there flashing, driving me insane10:06
pielgrzymI've got a question :)10:07
pielgrzymI uninstalled amarok successfully10:07
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sir_hchttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223265&page=1 is the page i'm refering to10:07
pielgrzymI ran ./configure with debug option enabled10:07
pielgrzymbut when I ran "make" and "make install" it was mostli reporting "it's skipping or not doing anything, because everythin was already made"10:08
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pielgrzymshall I delete something or run some nifty command in the amarok package dir?10:08
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Admiral_Chicagouhh10:18
Admiral_Chicagosorry hold on10:18
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Admiral_Chicagopielgrzym, what are you doing this for?10:20
pielgrzymAdmiral_Chicago: amarok (1.4.2) keeps freezing in various moments10:21
pielgrzymthis drives me mad10:21
pielgrzym;)10:21
Admiral_Chicagopielgrzym, what moments?10:21
pielgrzymAdmiral_Chicago: I just made a post on amarok forum about one of the problems: http://amarok.kde.org/forum/index.php/topic,12873.0.html10:22
pielgrzymthat's the main problem10:22
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pielgrzymI'd like to see what debugger says :) or at least give the debugger output to some competent people ;)10:23
Mehercle'morning10:23
Admiral_Chicagopielgrzym, you'll have to forgive me, i'v been drinking and its either IRC or pron10:24
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Admiral_Chicagohow big are the files10:24
Admiral_Chicagoas in Gbs or something10:24
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Admiral_Chicagoit might just be amarok scanning solwly10:25
pielgrzymAdmiral_Chicago: these are normal mp310:25
pielgrzymAdmiral_Chicago: around 5000. The normal collection filtering works like a charm (it freezes only sometimes)10:25
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pielgrzymAdmiral_Chicago: the collection is about 30GB big10:26
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pielgrzymAdmiral_Chicago: everything on NTFS read-only partition10:26
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Admiral_Chicagoi have a 45gb music collection10:29
Admiral_Chicagotakes a while10:29
Admiral_Chicagobbl\10:29
pielgrzymAdmiral_Chicago: 20-30minutes? :) it's a bug for sure:)10:29
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Admiral_Chicagopielgrzym, yea10:45
Admiral_Chicagomight just be your system10:45
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rljwhat is the default filename encoding used in kubuntu on an ext3 fs?10:57
rljsince all of my system is utf-8 (i think), i would like the fs structure to use utf-8 as well10:58
Bazzishould be utf8, but I don't know for sure10:58
rljnow, when i transfer files from both windows and linux using ssh to the box, swedish letters get messed up10:58
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rljso i wonder if they don't transfer the names properly10:58
rljor if the problem lies on the kubuntu box10:58
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rljbut it would be nice if you can tell somehow in what encoding the fs is mounted10:59
rljas i suspect you can specify what encoding to use on mount (although there is probably a default being used since my fstab isn't exotic=10:59
rlj)10:59
Bazzimaybe the ssh client is the broken thing in the chain as well11:00
lupine_85rlj: it should autodetect?11:01
lupine_85if not, I think you want the nls-(something)= option11:01
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rljyeah, my ntfs system is mounted with nls=utf811:02
rljso as long as ext3 understands the same parameter11:02
rlji can try to explicitly state include it in fstab11:02
rljreboot11:02
rljand then check if my filenames look intact11:02
rljif they do, it should already be utf-8 on the fs and ssh would be the culprit11:02
lupine_85was the ntfs OS (XP? 2000?) using nls=utf8? or a cp??? ?11:02
rljpossibly sshd on my sys and not ssh client but i'd have to check that11:02
lupine_85tbh, it shouldn't be the ssh client11:03
rlji'm not sure actually, but currently it's mounted with nls=utf811:03
lupine_85or the sshd11:03
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lupine_85utf-8 is only equivalent to ASCII11:03
lupine_85non-ascii-standard characters won't transcode very will11:03
lupine_85well*11:03
rljwell, but when characters like , , , are transmitted in not utf-8 they end up wrong11:03
rljonly ascii filenames appear correct over ssh11:04
JohnFluxyou can just set the character set to utf811:04
JohnFluxwhat's the problem?11:04
oslojoin ubuntu-fr11:04
oslooups sorry11:05
rlji just want to make sure swedish characters like ,  and , are encoded as utf-8 in the fs (possibly using 2+ bytes each then) and that ssh/sshd does it correctly as well11:05
rljJohnFlux: i just want to verify that the encoding used on my ext3 fs is really utf-8. (since i guess ext3 does not force a specific encoding)11:05
rljand if it's not, i want to make it mount as utf-8 and manually go through my files and fix the names to look good again11:06
rljthe majority of my files are just in ascii anyway, so it's only a part of them that require change11:06
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j2daoshwhat package do i need to play .wmv?11:28
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j2daoshcan linux even play .wmv?11:28
lupine_85it can11:29
lupine_85you need to install w32codecs (PLF repo)11:29
Jucato!w32codecs11:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:29
lupine_85I think wmv9 isn't supported, and encypted ones aren't (obviously)11:29
j2daoshok11:30
j2daoshthank you11:30
Healotfor DRMed media, Windows is till the best, and the only way perhaps?11:30
lupine_85hence, windows is not The Way(tm)11:31
lupine_85and neither is DRM11:31
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spazzhmm. I hosed my system.11:36
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spazzBut uh I found out what it was now... lol.11:36
spazzJucato here?11:37
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Healothttp://tools.wikimedia.de/~leon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?ns=articles&limit=100&month=08%2F2006&wiki=enwiki >> look at entry #611:39
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Jucatospazz: just got back. what happened?11:47
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cox377Hey all, in recent updates has their been any probs with wireless USB sticks??? basically my mates laptop running kubuntu keep giving an error every time i try and connect to his wifi network. I think the last time it worked properly was before all the updates! sorry new to this so if anything is unclear ask11:48
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lupine_85cox377: the only thing that would affect it really is a kernel upgrade11:55
lupine_85e.g. the rt2570 wifi driver was in one of the kernels, but not later ones11:55
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cox377hello :lupine_8511:56
cox377Yeh, it's a netgear usb adapter and i can to use the ndiswrapper to get it to work11:56
lupine_85if you're using ndiswrapper, it could b11:57
lupine_85*e that you've not got the kernel module any more11:57
cox377so i need to look at downgrading the kernal?11:57
lupine_85or upgrading the kernel module ;)11:57
lupine_85!ndiswrapper11:57
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:57
cox377Ok, cheers i shall give it a go11:58
cox377thing is, the lappy still sees  the wifi router but just wont connect11:58
cox377would that still be a symptom of the module?11:59
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lupine_85more likely that the (windows) drivers in question aren't working properly under your current revision of ndiswrapper12:01
lupine_85so a downgrade to whatever you had previously would be your best bed12:01
lupine_85bet* :D12:01
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cox377lupine_85: do u know what the command would be to downgrade the module?12:13
lupine_85apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils=(version)12:13
lupine_85no idea how you'd find out what version you were using before, though :(12:14
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lupine_85(you can do the same with your kernel)12:14
cox377Ummmm12:14
cox377lol12:14
cox377actually, isn't their a downgrade option under apt-get12:14
lupine_85maybe in adept12:15
cox377alright, well i'm gonna shoot round my mates and jump back on IRC there12:15
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fekmoin12:20
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sinkeriuuuh12:26
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sinkerii dont know how to use this thing12:27
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vgesomebody can help me with wireless, im kinda nood with it?12:27
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sinkeri what12:29
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_vge<vge> whats my accesspoint or essedid if it's "open network" and in windows i dont need to set those, i dont get it?12:35
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lupine_85_vge: by "open network" do you mean "no security"? Or "ad-hoc" mode?12:37
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_vgelupine_85: can i say both?12:38
GenuineBoyeexexit12:38
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_vgeit shows in kde network manager as eth1 and WLM sees it as "Connection speed" max, but when i try to scan for network, no luck12:40
lupine_85sure. In that case, you need to change your wlan interface to "ad-hoc" mode (default is Managed)12:40
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lupine_85in terminal, that's be "sudo iwconfig <interface> mode Ad-Hoc"12:40
_vgestill, it gives "no networks found", but i know there is one12:42
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knoblupine_85: u about?12:43
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lupine_85for another 10 minutes or so12:44
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knobhey12:45
knobit's cox37712:45
_vgecan somebody help me to configure BCM4306 wireless? :/12:45
knobi was speaking to u 15 minutes or so again12:45
knob#about the wireless12:45
knobi'm not to sure about how to downgrade the module12:45
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lupine_85me neither12:47
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lupine_85you need to know which version you had previosuly before you can do anything meaningful12:47
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knoblol12:49
knobany idea how i would go about doing that12:49
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knob!ndiswrapper12:53
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:53
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cogo_sakrthhalo01:04
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josh__hows it going all? is there a way to make ' show up in man pages?01:08
josh__right now special characters like ' show up as funked up characters01:09
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_vgehow do i remove BCM4306 drivers from laptop?01:11
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lupine_85"blacklist bcm43xx" in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file01:23
Dannilionohhh, thank you- I knew I'd forgotten to do something01:23
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knobis anyone here hot on wireless?01:31
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DannilionDepends on the problem, knob01:32
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knobbasically01:34
knobi i've got a wireless usb dongle that i managed to get working fine using ndiswrapper01:34
knobthen, it stopped connecting to my network01:35
knobit sees the network but just wont connect01:35
knobi've got a feeling it maybe something to do with the updates as i think it stopped working after the updates01:35
knobbut i dont know how to role back the updates to see if thats the problem01:35
Dannilionahh... can't help you there01:36
knoblol01:36
Dannilionthough I think I saw something on the ubuntuforums about it a few minutes ago01:36
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knobdo u have a link?01:36
Dannilionlooking now :)01:37
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knobcheers01:38
erik__when I try to mount my memory card over usb, I get an error saying "cannot mount superblock"01:38
erik__..what's wrong?01:38
franckhow do you mount your usb key?01:38
knobdoes anyone know of a command that would tell me the actual error to why the wireless wont connect because it';s not giving any feedback01:39
knobtried connecting under both wep and open and both dont work01:39
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Dannilionknob, I think this one was it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241453&highlight=modprobe+bcm43xx01:39
D4rklyhas anyone managed to get World Of Warcraft running in Cedega ?01:40
Dannilionnot sure though, as I searched for modprobe bcm43xx instead :P01:40
knobcheers01:41
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DannilionI'm about to go back on ndiswrapper, as it worked on breezy and automatically loaded on startup01:41
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DannilionI also didn't need to manually configure the rate to 54M01:41
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erik__franck: sorry my computer crashed... the mem card is in my mobile, which is connected over usb... and I've chosen "data store" mode on the mobile which makes it appear as an usb mass-storage device01:42
javi_hello01:42
erik__"mount: /dev/sda1: can't read superblock"01:42
narvik86mount /dev/sda01:43
erik__..I've just reformatted it also, using "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1". It formatted successfully01:43
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keittoruokaaYo01:43
franckmount -t vfat /dev/sda101:43
francktry this01:43
erik__erik@erik-laptop:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/01:44
erik__mount: /dev/sda1: can't read superblock01:44
javi_If anybody new someting about intel HDA audio drivers....01:44
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javi_*knew01:44
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hkallinikoshello al01:44
javi_hi hkallinikos01:44
hkallinikoswhere can i download some 3d games for linux,i want to try to install them and test the graphics here01:45
franckhttp://www.happypenguin.org/01:45
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narvik86www.nexuiz.com01:45
narvik86www.warsow.net01:45
erik__hkallinikos: "sudo apt-get install neverball"01:46
erik__hkallinikos: www.glest.org01:46
erik__franck: any ideas?01:47
hkallinikosthanks guys,another question,do any of the new released games come for linux too?01:47
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hkallinikosi mean not GNU games01:47
erik__hkallinikos: most bigger titles work through cedega01:47
erik__www.transgaming.com01:47
francktry a badblock erik into your usb key01:47
erik__franck: huh?01:47
hkallinikoscedega,is it something like win emu?01:47
erik__hkallinikos: not really an emu.. it makes linux understand windows software though01:48
erik__hkallinikos: check out the transgaming site01:48
hkallinikosi see,is it better than WINE?01:49
erik__it's based on wine01:49
franckcedega is wine with support of directX 901:49
hkallinikosaha ok thanks01:49
hkallinikosi am looking on the site now,check back later if i have any more questions01:49
erik__it's a very simplified wine with a "point-n-click" interface, and transgaming implements specific hacks to make all the latest big titles run all the time01:50
erik__franck: sorry I didn't understand the badblock thing01:50
erik__erik@erik-laptop:~$ sudo badblocks /dev/sda1 ?01:50
hkallinikosi guess it doesnt understand allready installed games in my NTFS partitions?01:51
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franckbadblocks -w /dev/sda101:51
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erik__hkallinikos: you need to install the games through cedega01:51
oslohow can i shut down my webcam, its light is always on01:52
hkallinikosoh ok01:52
D4rklyi cant get cedega to work with world of warcraft ???01:52
hkallinikosi dont want o be a spammer here,is any other channel more games-kubuntu based?01:52
franckyes you can D4rkly, it works perfectly01:53
D4rklyi managed to install WOW in cegdega but im unable to get it to run ???01:53
franckWoW works very well only with latest wine01:54
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erik__D4rkly: I think you can find help in the cedega forums01:54
D4rklyyeah i had it working with wine but i cant get it to work with cedega for some reason01:55
hkallinikosdoes wow it works perfectly right after the patch is installed or do you need to wait some time until it is supported?01:55
hkallinikoshmmm cedega is not free?01:55
D4rklyWOW works with wine no probs01:56
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D4rklyjust install the build from the winehq repo01:56
franckhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine01:56
D4rklyi also installed BF2 under cedega which i got running until i had to patch it with the latest patch now it wont start01:57
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erik__franck: how long will the badblocks check take? (btw I can mount it in mac and windows so I dont think its broken)02:00
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phreakyshello02:02
phreakysplease help. im not able to fix my ati-drivers ;(02:03
phreakysim trying to install the newest xorg-drivers, but its all mesa02:03
oslodo u have an adress for installing wine CVS ??02:03
stefgNot even ATI is able to do that...02:03
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phreakysive got the deb files build from the run script, build the kernel module(followed the whole ubuntu guide), changed xorg.conf and still no love :(02:04
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phreakysreally depressing to own an ati-card02:07
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phreakysallready bought nvidia for another computer, but this one is in my laptop :/ (x700)02:08
_dragonkhmine02:08
_dragonkhI got a 7950 gx202:08
_dragonkhits ok02:08
_dragonkhnot to bad02:08
phreakysnvidia?02:08
_dragonkhyeah02:09
phreakysit seems much easier with drivers on linux and stuff02:09
_dragonkhnvidia 7950 the dual one with 1GB02:09
phreakyswow nice02:09
_dragonkhhad some trouble with dual head though02:09
_dragonkhbut now its working ok02:10
erik__logrus:02:10
erik__[17179863.128000]  FAT: logical sector size too small for device (logical sector size = 512)02:10
erik__[17181418.968000]  FAT: invalid media value (0xaa)02:10
erik__[17181418.968000]  VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda1.02:10
_dragonkhit gets really really hot  - which is a downside02:10
phreakys2 extra powersources on your cards?02:10
_dragonkhphreakys: got a 4 pin power slot02:11
phreakysah ok02:11
_dragonkhI got one of those 1100 watt psus02:11
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phreakysim stuck with this x700 thing :/ its nice with windows, but on linux...02:12
knob_does anyone know how to roleback drivers?02:12
_dragonkhits supposed to have a silent fan - but its a bit noisy actually02:12
phreakysall i need is a simples setup02:12
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phreakysas long its fast :-002:12
phreakys:)02:12
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_dragonkhI got a amd64 the 4600+02:12
_dragonkhlots of linux stuff doesnt work on 64 bit though02:13
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D4rkly_is it worth downloading and installing the nvidia linux drivers off the nvidia site or are the nvidia-glx drivers from the repo ok. I have a pci-e 6800 and am not able to increase the resolution past 1024x76802:13
_dragonkhlike flash and skype and wine etc02:13
erik__logrus: sorry for bugging you, but what can I do to fix the problem?02:13
_dragonkhI think the repo has the latest02:13
_dragonkhat least it did when I last looked02:14
phreakyshm, thats the downside of living on the bleedy edge02:14
_dragonkhI was thinking  of going back to the 32 bit02:14
phreakysyou have xgl/compiz?02:14
_dragonkhI havent noticed much speed improvement on 6402:14
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_dragonkhI have the compiz on dual head yeah02:15
phreakyssweet02:15
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phreakysruns fast?02:15
_dragonkhits cool for a few days - but I dont use it much now02:15
phreakysyea, it lacks multiple desktops02:15
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_dragonkhit runs fast02:15
phreakysbut i like the feature02:15
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_dragonkhin a few years it will be cool02:16
phreakysyea, there is every week or so an update, so ill stick with it02:16
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_dragonkhhopefully 64 bit support will improve soon too02:16
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Philip5D4rkly: the new drivers on the nvidia site is just a small update with xorg 7.1 support02:17
phreakysyea02:17
_dragonkhprolly in a year or so02:17
Philip5and some other small things02:17
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knob_i need to role back all the last updates to see if i can get my wireless card working02:18
knob_can anyone help?02:18
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eljefedelitoknob whats up?02:21
vgesomebody can run me trought wifi install as i just cant get it to scan networks, and im confused that em i using the fwcut drivers or ndswrapper or what02:21
knob_i've got problems with my wireless usb dongle02:22
knob_it's started since an update02:22
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eljefedelitoroll bavk your update, huh...  unless you can remember what that update was, I don't know what to say02:22
eljefedelitowhat brand is the usb wireless think?02:22
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knob_it took me about 2 days to get the thing working and like an idiot i didnt note down the process other wise i would just reinstall02:22
knob_netgea02:22
knob_r02:22
knob_netgear02:22
D4rkly_im running i386 version on a amdx2 4400+ running the k7 kernel so i have dual core support02:22
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eljefedelitolol yeah the fun of wifi in the linux world...02:23
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atidemhello02:23
eljefedelitowell my guess is that some configuration file was over written, and so even a roll back of packages might not restore that config file.02:23
knob_u know what, i got it working and once it was working it worked great, it was just working out how to get it done, unforutnatly i got it done, meant to note down the instructions and forgot02:23
knob_the wireless card sees the network fine02:24
knob_it just wont connect02:24
eljefedelitowere you using "ndiswrapper" to run the drivers?02:24
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knob_yeh i was02:24
eljefedelitok02:24
eljefedelitoare you in K or Ubuntu?02:24
knob_tell me, is it possible to find a file with all the cmd commands because i maybe to look back @ my steps02:24
knob_kubuntu02:24
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eljefedelitosorta.  open a konsole and use the [up]  key02:25
eljefedelitothis will list the steps that you've taken, in reverse order02:25
knob_yeh, but i'm talking about if i do a reinstall02:25
eljefedelitobut hitting [enter]  will run one and might start to get confusing02:25
eljefedelitoreinstall the whole OS?  no need....02:26
eljefedelitowell, i don't think its needed02:26
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knob_yeh that's it, everytime u hit enter it just moves down the pile02:26
knob_i know, got the OS just how i like it02:27
eljefedelitousually the ndiswrapper command has three or four steps...02:27
knob_do u know the ndiswrapper command off the top of your head?02:27
eljefedelitorun 'sudo ndiswrapper -l' at the command prompt02:27
eljefedelitoit'll list what is loaded02:27
knob_shall i paste what it';s loaded?02:28
knob_1       invalid driver!02:28
knob_2       invalid driver!02:28
knob_athfmwdl                driver present02:28
knob_netgw11t        invalid driver!02:28
knob_netwg11t                driver present, hardware present02:28
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eljefedelitolol a lot there!  use "sudo ndiswrapper --help" to get some info02:29
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eljefedelitoand then (using that info) figure out how to remove those drives that aren't working02:29
eljefedelitomaybe removing them isn't necessary02:30
eljefedelitoi dunno,02:30
eljefedelitoOK knob_, try this: run 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'02:30
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knob_root@knob-laptop:~# ndiswrapper -l02:31
knob_Installed ndis drivers:02:31
knob_athfmwdl                driver present02:31
knob_netwg11t                driver present, hardware present02:31
eljefedelitonice02:31
eljefedelitorun 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'02:31
knob_i ran modprobe ndiswrapper but nothing happened02:31
knob_and i'm logged in under sudo02:31
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eljefedelitok02:32
eljefedelitothen try 'ifconfig wlan0'02:32
eljefedelitoanything?02:32
eljefedelitoor just 'ifconfig' which should list the InterFaces for networking02:32
knob_just put the wland down then back up again02:33
knob_2 secs02:33
eljefedelitook cool that was my next step ;)02:33
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eljefedelitobut we gotta be sure that wlan0 is the right one, or bringing it up is useless ;)02:33
knob_root@knob-laptop:~# ifconfig wlan002:34
knob_wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:B5:9E:9C:6F02:34
knob_          inet6 addr: fe80::20f:b5ff:fe9e:9c6f/64 Scope:Link02:34
knob_          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:102:34
knob_          RX packets:453 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:002:34
knob_          TX packets:2537 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:002:34
knob_          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100002:34
knob_          RX bytes:107684 (105.1 KiB)  TX bytes:259126 (253.0 KiB)02:34
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eljefedelito'ping www.google.com'02:34
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knob_ok i shall have to put the eth0 down first02:35
eljefedelitono do this02:35
eljefedelitoping www.google.com -I wlan002:35
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eljefedelito(-I is a CAPITOL 'i' )02:35
knob_root@knob-laptop:~# ping www.google.com -I wlan002:36
knob_PING www.l.google.com (66.249.85.104) from 192.168.0.4 wlan0: 56(84) bytes of data.02:36
knob_64 bytes from 66.249.85.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=29.1 ms02:36
knob_64 bytes from 66.249.85.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=27.7 ms02:36
knob_64 bytes from 66.249.85.104: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=29.1 ms02:36
knob_64 bytes from 66.249.85.104: icmp_seq=4 ttl=243 time=28.0 ms02:36
knob_64 bytes from 66.249.85.104: icmp_seq=5 ttl=243 time=29.5 ms02:36
eljefedelito:) working eh?02:36
knob_let me unplug the network cable and see what happens02:36
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eljefedelitosure02:36
knob_hello?02:37
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eljefedelitook knob_ lets make a list of what we did.  save this either in a notebook-of-solutions, or in an accessable place like your EMAIL02:38
eljefedelitohello knob_ you're via wireless?02:38
knob_lol02:38
knob_damn it works02:38
knob_haha02:38
knob_qaulity02:38
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eljefedelitono this is good!02:38
eljefedelitoreally, lets list our steps.02:38
knob_lol02:38
knob_will do02:38
eljefedelitonext time, we can know!02:38
eljefedelitondiswrapper -i xxxx02:38
eljefedelitoto install02:38
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eljefedelitothen ndiswrapper -l to list02:39
eljefedelitothen modprobe ndiswrapper to load02:39
eljefedelitothen ifconfig wlan002:39
eljefedelitoand maybe iwconfig is needed for some encryption stuff, i dunno :)02:39
eljefedelitosweet homes, happy to help someone before a day at the Windows IT department :)02:40
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eljefedelitoyeah knob_ that was a bit easier than a reinstall, huh?  i've done too many reinstalls when something fails.  i feel i need to learn a bit more so prevent that from happening!  although, since moving to Kubuntu, its been a lot less common...02:42
digitshow do i insert an escape character in kate?02:42
eljefedelitoescape char how?02:42
eljefedelitoloke, \02:42
eljefedelito(like, '\')02:43
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digitslike the litterate escape character, trying to do some baschscripting and want to put some nice colors in it ;)02:43
digitsnot the backslash02:43
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eljefedelitolitterate escape char... beyond me sir, i don't know what that is :)02:44
eljefedelitoisn't bash colourful enough? b&w is all we need!  lol02:44
digitseljefedelito: i want to bold the important stuff02:46
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digitsthere's nimwit's in the linux community too ;P02:46
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eljefedelitodigits i don't know...02:48
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eljefedelitodigits would this help? http://forum.goteamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=3227502:49
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eljefedelitoor is it for OKX users only, I don't know02:49
eljefedelitoOSX02:49
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eljefedelitooh it uses XOSD (X on screen display) not OSXD (OS X daemon).  Either way, it may not be what you want, digits.02:50
eljefedelitodigits i have to go.  good luck sir (ma'am).02:51
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vgewhy my " scan for networks fails allways" eaven thou i can see my wifi card?02:52
vgeanybody?02:53
knob_eljefedelito: right appears i'm still online, just noted down the instructions02:54
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knob_shall restart to see if she comes back to life, i wont have to run those commands every time will i?02:54
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eljefedelitoknob_ I hope that you don't, but I am not sure.  I've had "luck" both ways with it, so sometimes I have had to run 'modprobe ndiswrapper' (or put it in a startup script)03:08
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digitseljefedelito: i figured it out... i just used copy and paste google :)03:10
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D4rklyis anyone able to use a resolution greater than 1024x768 cause i cant get anything higher to work ?03:11
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digitsD4rkly: i have 1600x1200, but i can't get fglrx (ati's accelerated driver to work)03:12
whateverhow to prevent processes like khelper from starting?03:12
whateverthere isn't aservice in bum btw03:12
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AgiosI run 1600x1200 and get decent glx from my nvidia card: 34023 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6804.469 FPS03:14
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LeeJunFananyone know how I can get thunderbird to open a browser when I click a link?03:15
knobeljefedelito: u about mate?03:16
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AgiosLeeJunFan: set Thunderbird as your default browser app in kcontrol?03:17
Jucatoerr.... set Thunderbird as default.... huh?03:17
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Agiosisn't it a browser?03:18
JucatoThunderbird is an e-mail client...03:18
Agiosoh, sorry. completely blew that one.03:18
Jucatohehe. nobody's perfect03:19
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LeeJunFanAgios: I got the point.03:19
Jazonwhat kernel is dapper using?03:20
zeronenorezwho use opera Web Browser?03:20
JucatoJazon: 2.6.15-2603:20
LeeJunFanAgios: although it still won't open links with firefox set as the def browser.03:20
zeronenorezno bug03:20
JucatoLeeJunFan: I think there are a few more steps to make Thunderbird open o03:20
Jucatoopen links in firefox instead of Konqueror03:21
zeronenorezthere is typing bug03:21
JazonJucato: :D  then my usb wifi device is gonna work :D:D  I just formatted my 250gig hdd.... :s   i hate doing that03:21
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JucatoJazon: ehehe! good luck then! 03:21
zeronenorezsometimes i couldn't typing in address03:21
LeeJunFanJucato: I'd be happy if it opened any browser.03:21
Jazonhey!  where'd you get the smilie thingy?!?03:21
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JucatoJazon: Konversation > Insert Menu > Special Character...03:22
JucatoLeeJunFan: what do you mean? it won't open any browser when you click on a link?03:22
LeeJunFanJucato: nope.03:22
Jucatothat's weird...03:23
Jazoncool03:23
LeeJunFanJucato: I just had to switch from kmail because kmail was showing e-mails as being empty all the time.03:23
zeronenorezcopy03:23
Jucatowhoa... really weird... I've had no problem like that with KMail...03:23
zeronenorezJucato, no i can't use my keyboard when i open opera03:23
LeeJunFanJucato: I think it's an imap only thing.03:24
zeronenorezJucato, sometimes03:24
Jucatozeronenorez: er... I don't use Opera...03:24
Jucatozeronenorez: err... I was talking to LeeJunFan.... @_@03:24
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StRHi all03:25
LeeJunFanowell, gotta get to work. I'll mess with it later.03:25
StRI need help getting anti-alias in a java program.... eclipse03:25
LeeJunFanthanks anyway.03:25
StRI have antialias fonts in KDE, but not in eclipse :(+03:25
zeronenorez:<03:25
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Jazonomg03:30
Jazoni lost all my photos03:30
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Jucatotell me you backed up... you did, didn't you?03:31
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Jazoni could have sworn i copied them to my external....  cant find them there now03:31
Jucatonooo....03:32
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Jazonmy wife is going to shoot me03:33
Jazoni was being so careful03:33
Jazonthey were the only things that i cared about03:34
Jazon30 gigs of photos03:34
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StRLOL03:34
Jazoni am a goner03:34
Jucatocheck again... just check again... it might be there...03:34
Jucatohiding... lurking...03:34
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Jazonits not there :'(03:34
Jazonomg what am i gonna do ????? :(03:35
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fritschjprenaud: still there03:39
D4rklycan someone plz help me change my resolution to something higher than 1024x768. im running the nvidia-glx drivers ?03:39
fritschjprenaud: read something about the suspend2 "not able to unload module" ...03:39
jprenaudfritsch: righty oh03:39
fritschjprenaud: perhaps: hibernate --force does just work ...03:39
fritschjprenaud: this will continue withouth unloading the module03:39
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fritschD4rkly: yes03:40
jprenaudfritsch: no time to test right no but will definitely try sometimes03:40
fritschD4rkly: just do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg03:40
fritschD4rkly: it will aks you for the resolution03:40
jprenaudfritsch: i think on suse, powersaved can suspend via suspend203:40
fritschjprenaud: yes03:40
fritschjprenaud: mmmh03:40
fritschjprenaud: but your module unload problem was not "because of powersave"03:40
jprenaudfritsch: true03:41
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fritschD4rkly: without the "high" sorry03:41
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pradeepto!mp303:42
fritsch!restrictedformats > pradeepto03:42
pradeeptothanks03:43
pradeepto!restrictedformats03:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:43
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:44
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pradeeptofritsch: thanks for the info03:47
fritschpradeepto: no problem03:47
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larson9999what a great day!03:53
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TimmmmJust curious, Americans know what 'wanking' means right?03:54
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larson9999Timmmm: that what a brit does in his usual morning ritual?03:58
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Timmmmlarson9999: Well I don't, but then I don't know the sexual habbits of everyone here!04:01
RogueXHello04:02
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RogueXAnyone help me with and Adept problem?04:03
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JucatoRogueX: we can try. what's the problem?04:03
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RogueXJucato: Adept will not run because it says another adept program is running but I cant see one04:06
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JucatoRogueX: did Adept hang/stall/crash before this happened?04:06
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steven_hai04:07
JucatoRogueX: if yes, try typing this command in Konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a04:07
steven_does anybody know how to configurate a webcam in kubuntu?04:08
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RogueXJucato: yes it did04:09
JucatoRogueX: try typing this command in Konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a04:09
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RogueXJucato: I did that..04:10
maltaethironguys, whats wrong with the server?04:10
Jucatomaltaethiron: which server?04:11
RogueXJucato: it set up a bunch of KDE stuff should I restart KDE now?04:11
JucatoRogueX: if it's done already. just log out, then log back in04:11
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RogueXJucato: ok will do that now.. thank youu04:12
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maltaethironjucato: freenode? idk...earlier it said i was kicked from a server i wasnt even in (#ubuntu-unregged), then i started talking in here and there was no activity for hours04:12
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Jucatomaltaethiron: that was because the channel was +R/+r because of some flooding incidents04:13
maltaethironjucato: what does that mean?04:13
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maltaethiron+R/+r04:13
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JucatoI'm not sure which is which, but +R I think means that only people with registered nicks would be able to talk, while +r means only people with registered nicks can enter the channel...04:14
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maltaethironmy nick is regestered though04:14
Jucatoin +r, I think those with unregistered nicks were redirected to that "unregged" channel04:14
RogueXJucato: that got it.04:14
Jucatomaltaethiron: anyway, it wasn't a server problem. maybe your nick didn't get identified automatically that time?04:15
JucatoRogueX: glad to hear that04:15
RogueXAnyone know what app I can use to make and ISO of a disk??04:15
maltaethironhmm, odd04:15
RogueXJucato: thanks04:15
RogueXJucato: what did that command do?04:15
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JucatoRogueX: basically it continued installing where it left off04:16
steven_any one know how i get mij webcam working?04:17
RogueXJucato: cool..04:17
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RogueXAnyone know what app I can use to make and ISO of a disk??04:17
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Jucatowhoa.. was that a net split?04:26
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jprenaudRogueX: k3b04:34
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robin*Where do I install .ttf fonts*04:34
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christianphi all04:39
Jucatohi04:39
christianpi want to install kubuntu on my old laptop04:39
christianpi run the live but i notice my ps2 mouse doesn't work04:40
christianplogitech04:40
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christianpwhat's the matter?04:40
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christianpwhy kubuntu doesn't recognize my ps2 laptop port?04:41
christianpwhat can i do to make it working?04:41
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yonkeltronanyone using electricsheep?04:46
alucardniI can make amarok to play mp3 files, what can I do?04:46
Jucatoalucardni: you need to install "libxine-extracodecs"04:47
Jucatoit's in the multiverse repository04:47
Jucatoalucardni: Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:47
Hobbseealucardni: double click on an mp3 and try to play it, and follow the prompts04:47
Hobbseealucardni: if you're using amarok 1.4.2 that is04:47
JucatoHobbsee: ehehehe04:47
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alucardnithanks jucato04:47
JucatoHobbsee: when will the official announcement for Amarok 1.4.2 be posted in Kubuntu.org?04:48
HobbseeJucato: good point.04:48
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yonkeltroni'm having trouble with electricsheep....could someone give me a pointer?04:49
Jucatohm... Katapult-Amarok bug... not sure which one is causing teh bug..04:49
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HobbseeJucato: not yet.  soon04:50
Hobbseeyonkeltron: define "trouble"04:50
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yonkeltronHobbsee: i have electricsheep and kscreensavers-xsavers installed but the screensaver will niether start nor function in any semblance of the proper way04:51
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Hobbsee!find xscreensaver-gl04:51
ubotuFound: xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra04:51
zeronenorezall,can i install KDE support to my ubuntu in an easy way?04:51
Hobbseeyonkeltron: if you sudo apt-get install xscreensaver-gl, does that fix the problem?04:51
yonkeltronHobbsee: have that too04:51
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Hobbseeyonkeltron: sure?04:52
yonkeltronHobbsee: yes...sure04:52
Hobbseehmmm.04:53
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Hobbseeyonkeltron: do any of the other screensavers work?04:53
chuckypIs there a way to install kubuntu on ubuntu without messing up the gnome menus04:53
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chuckyphello test?04:54
yonkeltronHobbsee: ummm....yes04:55
zeronenorezhow?04:55
Hobbseechuckyp: yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:55
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Hobbseezeronenorez:  yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:55
zeronenorezHobbsee,in gnome?04:55
Hobbseezeronenorez: in a terminal, in gnome.  it doesnt matter.04:56
chuckypHobbsee, yes but it will mess up all the gnome menus adding the kde apps there.  Thats what i'm trying to avoid.04:56
Kr4t05Does anyone know how I can get a trashbin icon on the desktop?04:56
Hobbseechuckyp: havent found a way around that04:56
JucatoKr4t05: right-click on the desktop. Create New > Link to Location (URL)04:56
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yonkeltronHobbsee: actually....no04:56
JucatoKr4t05: then in the Enter link to lcation (URL), enter "trash04:56
yonkeltronHobbsee: none of them start automatically04:57
Kr4t05Jucato: Just trash04:57
Kr4t05?04:57
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Jucatoerr.. sorry04:57
Hobbseeyonkeltron: ah right.  do any of htem show up in the preview window?04:57
JucatoKr4t05: trash: /04:57
yonkeltronHobbsee: yes. bunch of them.04:57
Jucato(no space between the : and the /04:57
yonkeltronHobbsee: and many of them work when you test04:57
Hobbseeyonkeltron: right, yep04:58
yonkeltronHobbsee: in fact, when i test electricsheep...it goes black (implies downloading)04:58
Jucatotrash:/04:58
Kr4t05Jucato: thanks! :)04:58
yonkeltronHobbsee: it's trying to download the first sheep i assume....04:58
Hobbseeyonkeltron: *shrugs* - i dont know electricsheep specifically04:58
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Kr4t05Jucato: Sadly enough, I'm trying to make my computer more resembelant of Windows Vista, to appease some of the other family members who use my computer. :/04:59
yonkeltronHobbsee: ah.04:59
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JucatoKr4t05: you could also use these other kio slaves: home:/ for Home, system:/ or media:/ for My Computer04:59
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HobbseeJucato: yay.  kopete backport got approved05:00
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JucatoHobbsee: yey!! great job! (now for Konversation... lol)05:00
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Timmmmyonkeltron: I think that was a bug in either KDE or kubuntu...05:00
HobbseeJucato: we'll wait till official release or that.05:01
Timmmmyonkeltron: What KDE version are you using?05:01
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yonkeltronTimmmm: 3.5.205:02
Timmmmyonkeltron: Yeah try KDE 3.5.405:02
yonkeltronTimmmm: ummm05:02
Timmmmyonkeltron: I'll just see if I can find the bug.05:03
yonkeltronhow?05:03
zeronenorezwhen i use atp-get kubuntu-desktop it will install KDE 3.54?05:03
Timmmmyonkeltron: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php05:03
TheGateKeeperTimmmm: does 3.5.4 go any quicker than 3.5.2 loading apps etc?05:03
TimmmmTheGateKeeper: Not really...05:03
Kr4t05zeronenorez: are you using kubuntu already?05:03
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zeronenorezI just installing05:04
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zeronenorezKr4t05,is u want some information I will give u when i finished it05:04
Kr4t05TheGateKeeper: if you upgrade to KDE 3.5.4, it brings all of the components, (KTorrent, Amarok, Kopete, etc) up to newest ver.05:04
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Timmmmyonkeltron: Yeah was a bug, has been fixed it seems: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12861005:04
Kr4t05zeronenorez: I already upgraded KDE.05:05
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zeronenorezKr4t05,ok if i have question i'll ask u ;>05:05
TheGateKeeperKr4t05: have you noticed any speed increase?05:05
TimmmmTheGateKeeper: But you have to add the KDE 3.5.4 repository as it isn't in the main one.05:05
Kr4t05TheGateKeeper: A very slight one. Not anything that will save your life.05:05
Kr4t05TheGateKeeper: Also, while this may not be related, compiz seems to be a hair more friendly, but, Quinn has been updating those packages a lot lately. :)05:06
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yonkeltronTimmmm: is it safe to upgrade 3.5.405:07
Kr4t05yonkeltron: Of course.05:07
JucatoHobbsee: speaking of Kopete... I just learned recently that Kopete is pronounced as Koh-Peh-Teh...05:07
yonkeltronnot going to break my system?05:07
Hobbseeyonkeltron: shouldnt do05:07
HobbseeJucato: hehe, really?05:07
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Kr4t05yonkeltron: only if you've done something to make it break. ;P05:07
TheGateKeeperKr4t05: Timmmm I'd like to know how I can persude the developers to give it some more speed, just installed arch linux on my old P3 test box, and KDE seems to be a lot faster. not that I have timed it05:07
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JucatoHobbsee: yeah... all this time, I thought it was Kow-peet....05:08
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Kr4t05TheGateKeeper: It might be their kernel version05:08
zeronenorezi heard that many perfect dock only support KDE, is that right?05:08
Kr4t05TheGateKeeper: There are some kernel tweaks and packages that can give you some speed.05:08
JucatoTheGateKeeper: Kubuntu isn't one of the "faster" KDE distros... IMHO....05:08
Kr4t05s/packages/patches05:08
TheGateKeeperso I have noticed :-(05:09
Bbetto55hi, can i use firefox's plug ins in konqueror?05:09
TimmmmKr4t05: Yeah. Hopefully KDE 4 will be faster... Although Qt 4 doesn't seem to be any faster than Qt3 tbh.05:09
HobbseeJucato: hehe, right05:09
Kr4t05Grumble.05:09
JucatoBbetto55: sorry, but no...05:09
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HobbseeTheGateKeeper: seems to be, yes.  we actually have all of the stable performance patches in kde 3.5.4 anyway.05:10
zeronenorezKr4t05,do u know how to install OSX-Dock?05:10
Kr4t05zeronenorez: ksmoothdock is okay if you arn't using compiz or vista.05:11
TheGateKeeperHobbsee: seems to be what? faster?05:11
Kr4t05-or vista. ><05:11
Kr4t05I'm brain dead.05:11
HobbseeTheGateKeeper: yes05:11
RogueXTheGateKeeper: Do you know if K3b will make and ISO of a disk?05:11
Kr4t05Everything's better if you're not using Vista. :P05:11
HobbseeTheGateKeeper: i think.05:11
Hobbseei dont know.05:11
TheGateKeeperRogueX: think so05:11
zeronenorezKr4t05,which one do not have the hide buttons?05:12
RogueXTheGateKeeper: can you tell me how?  All I can see is burning optionns05:12
HobbseeRogueX: it should do.  i think you may have to run it as root though05:12
JucatoBut I don't think Qt3 is really the issue why Kubuntu is "slower" than others. coz if it were the reason, then why are some KDE distros fast?05:12
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HobbseeRogueX: er, you'd have to copy the iso, and then reburn it?05:13
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Hobbseedont use k3b much, i'm afraid05:13
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HobbseeJucato: it's not.   i'm thinking its' a placebo effect.  we get people in here telling us that kubuntu is faster than suse too.  *shrugs*.  of cours,e it helps starting with an empty session.05:13
yonkeltronJucato: prelink makes stuff faster05:14
Hobbseewhich i was going to suggest too.....05:14
Hobbseeyonkeltron: it can, yes05:14
uwe2hi05:14
JucatoI don't know... prelinking didn't work for me in Breezy...05:14
Jucatomaybe I'll try it again this time05:14
RogueXHobbsee: I am trying to make a ISO of a CD05:14
jdong_does prelinking help nowadays much?05:14
jdong_I though the linker was improved05:14
TheGateKeeperRogueX: never really tried Tools --> Burn CD Image... ???05:15
jdong_and I agree with Hobbsee... it's placebo effect05:15
Hobbseeheya jdong_!05:15
jdong_kubuntu is one of the fastest KDE distros05:15
Hobbseejdong_: thanks for the kopete backport :)05:15
jdong_gentoo/slax aside05:15
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jdong_very welcome, Hobbsee :)05:15
Hobbseejdong_: i didnt see much of an effect05:15
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yonkeltronHobbsee: works wonder for my laptop05:15
jdong_Jucato: it's your imagination at work :)05:16
Jucatolol05:16
Hobbseejdong_: it's much more sane only maintaining 2 of the same version than two different versions, with different patches.05:16
Hobbseewe were using 3 at one point, worked on by about 4 people.  shudder.05:16
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jdong_wow05:16
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JucatoI was surprised that MEPIS was faster than Kubuntu... I didn't expect it to be... maybe I should try out SUSE, too...05:17
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jdong_Jucato: where do you get these ideas???05:17
zeronenorezJucato, who to do that:* Jucato wonders what placebo effect means... I are dumb...05:17
jdong_Jucato: I just installed mepis on 2 systems last week05:17
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Hobbseeit seems to just be a recipe for danger.05:17
jdong_it's just about the same speed as kubuntu05:17
Jucatojdong_: that was just my observation...05:17
jdong_mepis seems pretty good to me05:18
jdong_there are times when I'd prefer it over kubuntu05:18
Jucatoit booted faster, KDE started up faster, with or without startup programs, programs launch faster... it was generally faster05:18
jdong_Jucato: that's technically impossible :-/05:18
Hobbseejdong_: perhaps the placebo effect, and/or a combination of "the grass is always greener"05:18
jdong_Jucato: mepis is virtually source-identical to kubuntu05:19
JucatoI think I mentioned that "I was surprised"... because I didn't expect it to be, for the same reason that you mentioned05:19
zeronenorezHobbsee how to make ur words blue?05:19
Hobbseezeronenorez: use /me blah blah blah05:19
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jdong_the best thing about mepis is that it's w32codec'ed/java'd out-of-the-box05:20
jdong_that's all I see in it05:20
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geoffreyhi05:20
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jdong_I highly diagree with its admin tools and grub tools05:20
=== zeronenorez it's funny
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jdong_but that's just me bitching :)05:20
Hobbseejdong_: have you tried the amarok 1.4.2 with the install mp3 script?05:20
Hobbseejdong_: that's classy :)05:20
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=== Jucato notes at least they have admin tools and grub tools...
jdong_:)05:20
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jdong_Jucato: they suck....05:21
zeronenorezHobbsee, how about change to Red?05:21
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jdong_IMO update-grub is so much better05:21
LxGeoffhi05:21
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Jucatozeronenorez: when your name gets mentioned, the text is red05:21
jdong_and their admin tools are the ones from pre-ubuntu Mepis05:21
LxGeoffis it an english server?05:21
zeronenorezJucato,no i mean everyone could see it REd05:22
jprenaudRogueX: have you burned your ISO image yet?05:22
Hobbseezeronenorez: mentoin the person's nickname in the text05:22
Jucatojdong_: maybe warren did some magic script thingy to make it faster? or maybe because they have their own KDE packages?05:22
Hobbseejdong_: there's likely to be a backport of konvi sometime too :)05:22
=== Jucato happily using imbrandon's builds...
jdong_Jucato: I've looked through the source of mepis's repos... the changes won't make a performance impact05:22
Kr4t05Bah...05:23
zeronenorezJucato,sorry i'm just a chinese :< i mean whole words05:23
jdong_and the magic script thingie :-/05:23
Kr4t05Slimming down kubuntu of all the un-needed stuff.05:23
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jdong_Jucato: if mepis is seriously faster than kubuntu, the only explanation I can think of is that kubuntu's installer is messing up DMA or something05:23
Jucatojdong_: then MEPIS might have accomplished the impossible. at least on my system, and on a few others (check the forums, some confirmed what I observed)05:24
jdong_powernowd might be to blame, too05:24
jdong_mepis uses powersaved, I believe05:24
yonkeltronthis is silly05:24
yonkeltroni'm risking breakage of my package system in order to get a screensaver05:24
yonkeltronsilly05:24
Jucatojdong_: it's not "seriously" faster than Kubuntu, like Xubuntu is "seriously" faster than Kubuntu. but it's noticeably faster...05:24
jdong_Jucato: yeah, you're not the only one who's told me that  mepis is "faster"05:24
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HobbseeJucato: does mepis save sessions, or start with an empty session?05:25
jdong_Jucato: are you running it on a CPU that does frequency scaling?05:25
yonkeltronmepis is subpar05:25
yonkeltroni used to be a mepis man05:25
yonkeltronkubuntu is better05:25
yonkeltrontrust me05:25
Jucatojdong_: which really puzzles me... by all means, Kubuntu should be faster, or has more oppurtunities to be faster05:25
jdong_I'd personally like to see someone make an illegal kubuntu CD05:25
jdong_i.e. w32codecs, java, etc05:25
JucatoHobbsee: I always start with an empty session, no matter which distro....05:25
HobbseeJucato: the performance patches get pushed back to kde upstream, so that they work in all distros05:26
HobbseeJucato: unless the patches are on crack.05:26
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jdong_btw, why the hell does mepis put an aquarium in the default taskbar???05:26
Hobbseejdong_: yeah, that'd be nice.  *shrugs*05:26
Hobbseejdong_: it's getting better though.  note the amarok mp3 support now05:26
jdong_yeah05:26
jdong_but still not Windows user ready :-/05:26
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Hobbseetrue that05:27
Jucatolol... I don't know... I still can't understand what an aquarium has to do with KDE or pyramids..05:27
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jdong_I'm not a lawyer, but is it illegal for [k] ubuntu to  ship with an automatix-style script?05:28
Jucatojdong_: I'm not sure. how do I check if my CPU does frequency scaling?05:28
jdong_that fetches w32codecs from elsewhere?05:28
Hobbseejdong_: no, it's legal.05:28
pointwoodthe problem is that it is illegal to add support for the things "windows users" expect05:28
Hobbseejdong_: we do that with amarok, really05:28
Jucatojdong_: perfectly legel...05:28
jdong_k05:28
Jucatos/legel/legal05:28
fritschJucato: have a look in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/05:28
Hobbseejdong_: only problem with that is that automatix seems to be on crack.05:28
jdong_then I might respin some kubuntu livecd's05:28
jdong_Hobbsee: how so?05:28
Hobbseejdong_: talk to nalioth about edubuntu05:28
fritschJucato: there is "scaling_governor" scaling_cur_freq etc.05:28
Hobbseenalioth: well, it used to be, i dotn know how it is now.05:28
=== jdong_ worked on the automatix team for a while, to fix that
Hobbseeah :)05:28
=== Hobbsee shuts her mouth then
jdong_no, it's ok05:29
Hobbseejdong_: does it still add random repos?05:29
pointwoodwe need to convert the world to free, open formats :)05:29
jdong_Hobbsee: I switched them to my sources.list :)05:29
=== zeronenorez hey guys,how about make a web site post all basic questions and answers from the channel?then every can save many time :>
jdong_so IMO it's pretty sensible05:29
Hobbseejdong_: very nice :)05:29
Hobbseejdong_: nice.05:29
pointwoodzeronenorez: feel free to start :D05:29
jdong_i mean, it still needs to reach for PLF05:29
Jucatojdong_: you worked on automatix? there's an error on their installation instructions in their new web page...05:29
jdong_but other than that, no05:29
Hobbseejdong_: technically it's possible - if it gets thru quality control, etc05:29
fritschzeronenorez: look in the wiki, many things are answered there05:29
Hobbseejdong_: true.  as long as PLF doesnt end up breaking more crap that we then have to fix :P05:29
fritschzeronenorez: but not many people read it (was my "erfahrung"?)05:29
zeronenorezpointwood, me? i'm just a boy05:29
jdong_Jucato: I served as project lead for two weeks, then ended up quitting05:29
Hobbseejdong_: i'd look at changing the name or something :P05:29
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=== fritsch is just a boy, too
Hobbseejdong_: why'd you quit?05:30
jdong_Hobbsee: not enough free time05:30
Hobbseejdong_: point.05:30
=== zeronenorez but i'm younger
fritschzeronenorez: would not be sure ;-)05:30
jdong_Hobbsee: as far as PLF goes, it's the most sensible place I could find to get stuff like win32codecs/libdvdcss05:30
Hobbseejdong_: besides, we need your quick backport requests :)05:30
Hobbseejdong_: true that.05:30
jdong_:)05:30
zeronenorezfritsch, how old are u?05:31
pointwoodwe should get .wma and .wmv support through real soon though05:31
jdong_pointwood: ffmpeg already supports wmv9 and wma, right?05:31
fritschzeronix: "your age" `mod` "my age" is < then my age?05:31
jdong_it's a relatively recent development05:31
fritschzeronenorez: => you would be older :-)05:31
jdong_but I read that in their changelog05:31
fritschzeronenorez: so tell me yours05:31
pointwoodjdong_: yeah, but there is problems with streaming05:32
jdong_k05:32
zeronenorezfritsch, 18 ;-<05:32
pointwoodjdong_: you always get the lowest quality05:32
fritschzeronenorez: so the equation gives: 505:32
fritschzeronenorez: me is older ;-)05:32
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pointwoodreal made a deal with MS some time ago and they can now legally create open source support for wma and wmv05:32
zeronenorezfritsch, i know that ,many people ignore me to play ubuntu05:33
pointwoodwhich they have announced they will05:33
zeronenorezfritsch,because i 'm too young05:33
pointwoodit will not support CRAP though (what some people refer to as DRM)05:33
Jucatohm...prelinking...05:33
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fritschzeronenorez: you are NOT ignored for you age05:34
fritschzeronenorez: age is nothing that counts05:34
zeronenorezfritsch, i agree05:34
fritschzeronenorez: have seen "many old du.."05:34
fritschzeronenorez: everybody can help in linux05:34
zeronenorezfritsch, Love Ubuntu and Linux05:34
fritschzeronenorez: and if something goes wrong, no matter - next try05:35
Jucato./forum05:35
Jucatooops05:35
jdong_Jucato: apt-get install prelink :)05:35
=== zeronenorez Love ubuntu and linux
jdong_Jucato: and then there's one config file to edit05:35
Jucatojdong_: eheh thanks. I'll try it out tomorrow when I wake up...05:35
Jucato(almost midnight here)05:35
fritschjdong_: thx, look good by default i think05:36
=== zeronenorez i think everyone here would like to help me :>
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fritschzeronenorez: think so, too05:36
Jucatobut really, this "speed" thingy has me really perplexed for a long time. Even led me to try doing a mimal install + kde-core instead of kubuntu-desktop..05:36
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fritschzeronenorez: but me has to leave now05:36
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fritschJucato: mmh take gentoo05:37
zeronenorezfritsch, bye05:37
fritschzeronenorez: cu! i am afk, but staying in here05:37
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zeronenorezfritsch,.......nothing to say05:37
Jucatofritsch: I'm still trying to find ways of trying to optimize Kubuntu without having to become a rocket scientist...05:37
jdong_Jucato: what are the specs on your PC?05:38
fritschJucato: jdong_ suggested prelink05:38
fritschJucato: give it a try05:38
ketsugiAnyone else find KMail a bit slow?05:38
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ketsugiIt seems to lock up when I select mails05:38
Jucatofritsch: I will. when I wake up05:38
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AgiosJucato: bigger hardware :)05:38
fritschJucato: just do: sudo apt-get install prelink05:38
Jucatojdong_: 1.5Ghz, 640MB RAM05:38
larson9999i run kde on a p3 700mgz and a amd 3500 and it's fast enough on both05:38
fritschJucato: shutdown your computer05:38
jdong_Jucato: kubuntu should be pretty fast on that05:39
pointwoodI'm trying to use kmail now, but it seems to have stalled fetching my mail (using IMAP)05:39
fritschJucato: and tomorrow when you wake up... there will be speed05:39
Jucatojdong_: which is what bothers me...05:39
jdong_Jucato: try removing powernowd05:39
jdong_Jucato: yeah, because I can run kubuntu fine on a 500MHz laptop with 192MB RAM05:39
fritschjdong_: in edgy will there be powersaved as default or can we use cpufreq_ondemand out of the box?05:39
Jucatojdong_: will do. so now that's 1) install prelink and 2) remove powernowd05:39
fdovingJucato: 'preload' can be useful too.05:39
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zeronenorezhooo finish download KDE05:40
jdong_fritsch: I think they're still gonna use powernowd :-/05:40
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fritschjdong_: wargh05:40
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jdong_fritsch: IMHO kubuntu should be using powersaved05:40
pointwoodkubuntu runs fine on this core duo machine :)05:40
jdong_which does use cpufreq/ondemand to do dynamic scaling05:40
jdong_pointwood: likewise on my core duo :)05:40
pointwood:D05:40
fritschjdong_: you mean powersaved and kpwersave?05:40
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jdong_fritsch: yes05:41
jdong_that's what I use here :)05:41
fritschjdong_: as long as suspend2 is not possible for me in kpowersave (powersaved) i cannot use it05:41
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larson9999uses powernowd here05:41
zeronenorezfritsch, choose kde as default?05:41
fritschzeronenorez: if you want to?05:41
jdong_fritsch: powersaved currently uses a different set of suspend scripts than kubuntu's05:41
fritschzeronenorez: you ran gnome before?05:41
zeronenorezyes05:42
jdong_fritsch: but nothing says we can't change that :-/05:42
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fritschjdong_: yes, but for suspend2 it uses the "hibernate" script as well05:42
ironfroggyis there a way to get a very slightly newer version of wine than what is in the repo without compiling it myself?05:42
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fritschjdong_: i never got such a hard lock than like in powersaved and suspend2 before ;-)05:42
jdong_again, that's a changeable detail05:42
ironfroggyor pulling new versions of other things?05:42
fritschjdong_: i try again, when gdb is finished with amarok05:42
fritschjdong_: yes i know05:42
fritschjdong_: kpowersave has many features, btw.05:42
jdong_ironfroggy: check winehq.com05:42
jdong_fritsch: exactly... I love kpowersave05:43
zeronenorezfritsch,i'm beginner just like to make cool theme :->05:43
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=== Jucato has no uses for powersaving features....
Jucato:-(05:43
jdong_fritsch:  and I'm not too impressed with the new guidance battery app05:43
Jucatohm.. "has no use"....05:43
fritschjdong_: i have the "dapper" version running next to me05:43
fritschjdong_: it looked bad ;-)05:43
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fritschjdong_: brightness stuff, hdd stuff etc. this is very cool in kpowersave05:44
jdong_ironfroggy: on winehq.com they offer instructions on how to get wine packages for ubuntu. those are good packages05:44
Jucatotime to go to bed...05:44
fritschzeronenorez: you installed "kubuntu-desktop" right?05:44
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Jucatobye! will do prelinking and remove powernowd tomorrow05:44
fritschJucato: have a nice trip ...05:44
Jucatothanks for the tips05:44
jdong_fritsch: suse's put a lot of work into kpowersave05:44
Jucatofritsch: hehehe! thanks05:44
fritschjdong_: yes i know ... tried suse 10, 10.1 etc.05:44
zeronenorezfritsch,i don't know not finished05:44
jdong_but I do admit it derivates from kubuntu's simplicity paradigm05:44
fritschjdong_: always try there versions05:44
gplfighterhello05:44
gplfightercan i check or a packeage is sucessfully installed?05:45
fritschjdong_: but don`t use them, because of the damn slowliness of package management05:45
jdong_fortunately, kpowersave is available in ubuntu repos :)05:45
gplfighterwith a 1 line output?05:45
jdong_fritsch: SUSE's good, but kubuntu suits me better :)05:45
fritschjdong_: yes it is got it, used it, etc. but waiting on Andrew Barr for the susend2 fixes05:45
jdong_fritsch: faster package management, yes05:45
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fritschjdong_: yes, same for me - "grown up" with deb05:46
jdong_fritsch: knoppix switched me to linux, gentoo kept me using linux until ubuntu came out :)05:46
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jdong_fritsch: but somewhere between the two I've tried nearly every distro that distrowatch indexs05:46
fritschjdong_: hehe, had Fedora, Mandrake05:48
fritschjdong_: Suse, all debians, kubuntu, ubuntu, etc.05:48
ironfroggyjdong_: and those are not the ones in the repo, but are newer?05:48
fritschjdong_: but, mmmh05:48
larson9999i've only tried about a dozen distros.  i like kubuntu and dsl05:48
fritschjdong_: i did not like the "too graphical" ones05:48
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fritschjdong_: cannot live without a shell open05:48
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zeronenorezfritsch, yes i agree bad fedora05:49
fdovinggplfighter: yes, from the commandline: 'dpkg -l packagename|tail -n1'05:49
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gplfighterfdoving : thx05:49
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larson9999fedora was fine but yum was soooo slow.  i figured that i didn't want a distro that would use yum as its default package manager.05:50
gnomefreaklarson9999: smart move IMHO05:50
zeronenorezfritsch, now upgrate completely ,i need restart computer? or just restart x-windows?05:51
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fritschzeronenorez: restarting X is normall sufficant05:51
fritschzeronenorez: but, it is good when hal, etc. gets reoloaded05:52
fritschzeronenorez: so reboot ...05:52
zeronenorezfritsch,thux05:52
otaku-sanfritsh: you don't ever need to reboot linux....thats one of the cool things about it05:53
otaku-sanfritsch: rebooting is a windoze thing...05:53
Kr4t05otaku-san: shush05:53
fritschotaku-san: normally you only reboot when you change kernel05:54
jdong_otaku-san: well, you do need to reboot linux sometimes :)05:54
jdong_otaku-san: i.e. kernel updates05:54
fritschotaku-san: but let me tell you sth.05:54
jdong_otaku-san: also, if there's a hal/dbus update it may be worthwhile to reboot05:54
jdong_but in general, yes, you don't need to reboot Linux as much as windows :)05:54
fritschjdong_: exactly, because of this i wanted him to reboot05:54
fdovingotaku-san: some times rebooting is the fastest and easiest way.. even if it is possible to do anything without rebooting.. except kernel updates :)05:54
jdong_where a notepad update requires a reboot :)05:54
jdong_(and no, I'm not kidding. windows NT update for notepad requests a reboot)05:55
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otaku-sanI think I was just pwnz0red .... ;)05:55
fdovingyou can restart dbus with kde running, without much problems.. for example.05:55
DaSkreechjdong_: How's Ipod linux?05:55
jdong_DaSkreech: I wouldn't knw :-/05:55
jdong_fdoving: I got some BSD buddies that have uber-creative ways of applying even the largest updates without rebooting05:56
jdong_actually, it's more of an in-place rebooting script :)05:56
otaku-santheres a distro totally meant for an Ipod05:56
otaku-san.....wow that's odd05:56
DaSkreechjdong_: Berry LInux?05:56
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KeenEarshi guys05:56
jdong_DaSkreech: it's decent.. I like it as a livecd05:57
jdong_DaSkreech: but I wouldn't use it over ubuntu/kubuntu for any reason05:57
DaSkreechElive? :)05:57
jdong_DaSkreech: I don't like enlightenment05:57
DaSkreechjdong_: :-P :-)05:58
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fdovingjdong_: heh.. i can understand that for hardcore production server environments. but for desktops i don't spend much time trying to avoid rebooting anymore. Back in the days when i started using linux, i was keeping desktops running like 200 days and so on.. i'm over that stage now. :)05:58
KeenEarscan i get my localepack for kubuntu and not use apt-get ?05:58
jdong_fdoving: lol, but you gotta admit uptime contests can be fun :)05:59
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jdong_ok, maybe a little bit05:59
fdovingjdong_: sure, for servers :)05:59
jdong_it ruins my disk cache05:59
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trappist10:59AM  up 704 days, 22:39, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0005:59
fritschjdong_: my friends debian ran over 300 days05:59
trappistI win!05:59
fritschjdong_: the had a "AC disconnect" while he was on hollidays05:59
kzeronenorezfritcsh, kde has more apps?05:59
fritschjdong_: he changed so many things manually in between05:59
KeenEarsfor example, take a package from repository ?05:59
jdong_fdoving: I got access to a Sun with 8GB RAM05:59
jdong_fdoving: after using it for a few days, everything is cached05:59
larson9999i can't seem to find a fan that will last more than a year06:00
fritschjdong_: and after reboot the whole family could not use their internet for over 2 weeks :-)06:00
pointwoodtrappist: you got a beer advantage - unfair! :p06:00
trappistbeer does help.06:00
pointwoodmmm...trappist beer :)06:00
trappistpointwood: that box also has a freebsd advantage.  I think linux resets its uptime around 400 days06:00
pointwoodk06:00
kzeronenorezfritsch, u tell me which dock is good?i forget06:01
fritschkzeronenorez: which "dock"?06:01
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fritschkzeronenorez: documentation?06:02
fritschkzeronenorez: to learn kubuntu?06:02
fritschkzeronenorez: mmmh "prove is bigger thant study" we say in germany06:02
fritschkzeronenorez: so just try it out06:02
kzeronenorezfritsch, no just like osx-dock06:02
fritschkzeronenorez: ah06:03
fritschkzeronenorez: sorry no idea of a "good" one06:03
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kzeronenorezok06:03
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otaku-sanok restarting X is good!06:04
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KeenEarsso is there way to install from local repository ? can synaptic or smth do it ?06:07
DaSkreechfritsch: Smart saying06:07
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DaSkreechKeenEars: Whats a Local repository? Your machine or some network server?06:08
KeenEarsmy machine ;)06:08
KeenEarsfor example i need to take rus. pack for kubuntu home. but there`s no inet ;(06:08
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KeenEarsso i can`t apt-get it. if i apt-get it with livecd, can it save somewhere all i need ?06:10
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KeenEarsso can i do it somehow ?06:11
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xxenonhi, is there a build of amarok 1.4.2 somewhere ?06:13
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lupine_85KeenEars: You can d/l the .deb files directly and put them  on a USB stick or something, if that's any help06:13
DaSkreechKeenEars: Yeah06:13
KeenEarshere : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/amarok/06:14
DaSkreechDrop them in the /var/cache/apt/archive folder and then apt-get them06:14
KeenEarsthere`s alot of debs... maybe i miss some deps06:14
DaSkreechThe first place it checks is that folder and if they aren't there then it checks your network then the net06:14
KeenEarsi just wanted for apt-get to do all the work ;)06:14
DaSkreechKeenEars: try packages.ubuntu.com They will tell you all the dependencies06:15
KeenEarsk, thanx06:15
DaSkreechKeenEars: Well if you don't have net ....06:15
DaSkreech :)06:15
lupine_85or just dpkg -i ;)06:15
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KeenEarshow will i ask then ? =)06:15
DaSkreechWell..... You have keenears I'll just shout the answer06:16
DaSkreechkzeronenorez: Why do you ask?06:16
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KeenEars=)06:16
fdovingKeenEars: you can use 'apt-get -d install' that will download to /var/cache/apt/archives/ on the livecd.. then copy to some other device, and take back home, and install, you won't be able to apt-get install since you don't have the packages.gz from the mirror, but since apt-get on the livecd did all the depend-checks before downloading you can do: 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' and it'll work.06:16
KeenEars     )06:17
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kzeronenorezthere are so many sexygirl in kde-look.org06:17
KeenEarsunsure u have loud voice ;)06:17
fdovingKeenEars: that's 'apt-get -d install packagename'06:17
jdong_LOL, guys, check this out06:17
jdong_so I'm reading a laptop review06:17
DaSkreechkzeronenorez: Well kde-look.org != kde06:17
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KeenEarsfdov - thanx really;)06:17
jdong_and they're benchmarking and showing these charts about rendering times, etc06:18
kzeronenorezbut i like that06:18
jdong_and then they go to test battery life06:18
xxenonKeenEars - thanks...but it's not showing in apt-get ...any reason ?06:18
jdong_the caption reads (Battery Life -- time in seconds (Lower is Better))06:18
jdong_I guess they forgot to change the caption :)06:18
KeenEarsnot showin what ?06:18
fdovingjdong_: nice one :)06:18
xxenonKeenEars - amarok 1.4.2 is not showing apt-cache show, after an apt-get update06:19
lupine_85xxenon: just apt-get upgrade06:19
DaSkreechjdong_: The $100 Laptop?  :-)06:19
lupine_85should do the trick06:19
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jdong_DaSkreech: lol :)06:19
KeenEarsi just looked with browser and sought06:19
kzeronenorezDaSkreech,there is the theme edit?06:19
xxenonKeenEars - no, it's not there.06:19
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KeenEarslots like amarok_1.4.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb                      24-Aug-2006 17:08   14M06:20
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DaSkreechkzeronenorez: It's not as easy in KDE as Gnome06:20
KeenEarsanyway i like aptitude more.. will it work with ubuntu ?06:20
jdong_xxenon: have you tried http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/06:21
kzeronenorezDaSkreech, i will read wiki06:21
fdovingKeenEars: if you're browsing the mirrors that's for edgy. not dapper.06:22
xxenonjdong_ - thanks06:22
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fdovingKeenEars: aptitude is installed by default, yes.06:22
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KeenEars? havent see it in desktop.06:22
KeenEarsand mc too =(06:22
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KeenEarsk.06:23
fdovingyou'll have to install mc.06:23
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fdoving'sudo aptitude install mc'06:23
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KeenEarsbut is there package ?06:24
fdovingfor mc?06:24
KeenEarsah mabe for debian06:24
fdovingyes.06:24
nagyvhello! I would like to write an audio CD from mp3 files. K3b says that it is unsupported. I am sure, that I should only install something. Cout someone help me?06:24
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KeenEarswhat abt gnomebaker ?06:24
jdong_nagyv: you need to install an additional package06:25
trappistnagyv: install libk3b2-mp306:25
jdong_there it is06:25
fdovingnagyv: install the package 'libk3b2-mp3'. it's in the universe repository.06:25
KeenEarsk. btw what package is needed to play mp3s ? not this ?06:25
nagyvjdong_: fdoving: thx!06:26
fdovingKeenEars: libxine-extracodecs06:26
jdong_KeenEars: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s06:26
KeenEarsxmms ;)06:26
jdong_KeenEars: you also might want to see the linked RestrictedFormats page.06:26
jdong_the more laws we break today here, the better :)06:27
jdong_lol06:27
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KeenEars=) do not learn me to break laws06:27
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KeenEars*teach06:27
jdong_:)06:28
flo_can someone please help me remove vmware player from my sistem? when i try to do that i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2189006:28
KeenEarsbecause there`s no such law here06:28
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jdong_KeenEars: you lucky bastard :)06:29
DannilionI have a question06:29
KeenEarsis it so hard for mp3s ?06:29
Dannilionis there any way for me to get the bcm43xx driver to load on startup, so my wireless will just work?06:30
jdong_KeenEars: what do you mean? installing the packages or the patent protection?06:30
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_lupineDannilion: you could stick a pre-up command in /etc/network/interfaces06:31
_lupinee.g. auto wlan006:31
_lupineiface blah06:31
Danniliongot that06:31
Dannilionauto eth106:32
_lupinepre-up modprobe bcm43xx06:32
Dannilionwhere do I stick that?06:32
jdong_guys, how's adding bcm43xx to /etc/modules? ;)06:32
_lupineI think you can stick it in /etc/modprobe.d/ somewhere as well06:32
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Dannilionit's in /etc/modules06:32
_lupineah, that's the one06:32
_lupine:)06:32
jdong_:)06:32
jdong_and it doesn't probe at bootup??06:32
digital_monkI installed ubuntu 6.06 and need pine but when I 'apt-get install pine' it doesn't exist.  Anyone know the package name???06:32
CVirusDannilion: can I ask ,,, what wireless card are you using ?06:32
flo_can someone tell me atleast how i can force a unninstall?06:33
KeenEarsfdoving - so at home i must only do apt-get -i <name> ?06:33
DannilionBelkin High Speed G one06:33
fdovingKeenEars: 'dpkg -i *.deb' in the directory with all the .deb files.06:33
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Dannilionchipset Broadcom 430606:33
CVirusDannilion: any idea whether the 4311 chipset works or not ?06:33
KeenEarsok06:34
DannilionI've just spent 2 hours trying to get ndiswrapper working, with no joy06:34
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lupine_85better06:34
Dannilionno idea, CVirus06:34
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fdovingDannilion: use bcm43xx driver.06:34
fdoving!broadcom06:34
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:34
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DannilionI am using the bcm43xx driver06:34
lupine_85ow!06:34
lupine_85thanks06:34
DannilionI want it work on startyp though06:35
Dannilionand sticking it in /etc/modules doesn't do it06:35
HawkwindDannilion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517406:35
HawkwindDannilion: Have you read that how-to for broadcomm ?06:35
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Dannilionyup06:35
lupine_85Dannilion: is it that the driver isn#t loading, or that the card isn't associating to the AP?06:35
Kr4t05Bah! ><06:35
KeenEarsunsure i get it right. first, i run cd. then, apt-get -d install ?06:36
Kr4t05Did anyone manage to get a copy of the Vista KBFX button theme from KDE-Look before it got taken down?06:36
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Dannilionboth, KeenEars06:37
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fdovingKeenEars: yes, then apt-get downloads the files to /var/cache/apt/archives/ - you copy them to usb-disk or something.. bring the usb-disk back home, cd to the directory with the .deb files and run 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb'06:37
DannilionI have to first modprobe bcm43xx, then tell Wireless Assistant to connect to the network06:37
lupine_85do you get any errors in dmesg ?06:37
Dannilionnot that I can see06:38
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fdovingDannilion: putting bcm43xx on one line in /etc/modules should have it load at boot time.06:38
DannilionI know it should, it just doesn't06:39
fdovingDannilion: after it's loaded you should set it up in /etc/network/interfaces to connect automatically. then you don't have to use wireless assistant.06:39
Dannilionauto eth106:40
Dannilioniface eth1 inet static and so on?06:40
fdovingyes, do you use wpa/wep?06:40
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Dannilionnope06:40
lupine_85wireless-* can be put in interfaces06:40
lupine_85(where * is any command you can pass to iwconfig)06:40
KeenEarsthanx, i`ll try06:41
digital_monkI installed ubuntu 6.06 and need pine but when I 'apt-get install pine' it doesn't exist.  Anyone know the package name???06:41
KeenEarsbtw can i enable root back ? sudo is gets me tired06:41
fdovingDannilion: then it is, like lupine_85 says, advisable to add 'wireless-essid essid' atleast.06:41
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Dannilionyup, got wireless-essid DJS06:41
KeenEarsmonk, maybe aptitude will do better as u can see the names06:41
lupine_85Also pre-up iwlist eth1 scan06:41
nargKeenEars: sudo passwd06:42
Dannilionahh, don't have that one06:42
Dannilionthanks06:42
Danniliondo I just put that one in?06:42
fdovingdigital_monk: pine is not inclued as it has a restrictive license. i suggest 'mutt' or similar.06:42
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lupine_85yes, after the modprobe pre-up06:42
KeenEarsk06:43
Dannilionwhere do I put it then?06:43
lupine_85in interfaces06:43
Dannilionthanks06:43
lupine_85before any of the wireless-* options, but after the iface line06:43
fdovingafter the iface eth1 inet static line.06:43
Dannilionthanks06:43
KeenEarsyep, aptitude is here. good06:43
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Dannilionwith luck, it should now load up at startup, right?06:44
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KeenEarsok, bye guys, you`re really like an elixir to my stains ;)06:44
nargIn kubuntu konqueror, they have the searchbox, but as far as I can tell, its impossible to get rid of. Anyone know why/how?06:44
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DannilionI'll be back in a few minutes to let you know if it worked :)06:44
digital_monkfdoving - Thx06:44
fdovingnarg: in konqueror go to: settings -> configure plugins (if i translated correctly)06:45
pishtaIn need help06:45
fdoving!ask06:45
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:45
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fdovingdigital_monk: you're welcome.06:46
nargfdoving: ah, I was looking the wrong place. Thanks.06:46
fdovingnarg: you're welcome :)06:46
nargfdoving: I assumed it would be in configure toolsbar06:46
narg*toolbars06:46
DaSkreechfdoving: That's a good point.06:46
fdovingnarg: i did too, that's why i remember very well :)06:46
pishtaI wanna know where do I find a list of programs for Kubuntu, like video codecs, etc06:47
Kr4t05pishta: Adept06:47
nargapt-cache search * should get you one, but I wouldn't suggest doing it.06:48
monkwarrioror Synaptic I believe06:48
digital_monkWhere can I find a list of all official Ubuntu repositories?06:49
fdovingdigital_monk: i suggest using source-o-matic06:49
fdoving!source-o-matic06:49
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:49
fdovingnot all official, but they are listed.06:50
digital_monkfdoving: will do.  :)06:50
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Dannilionit worked! Thank you very much people :)06:50
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fdovingyou're welcome dannilion.06:51
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DaSkreechShhhhh Be very very Quiet I'm Hunting Wabbits07:01
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phreakyshello07:02
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DaSkreechHI07:02
phreakysi had big troubles with ati-drivers on kubuntu so i decided to create a fresh new install of kubuntu, and followed the kernelbuild option from the ubuntu-guides07:02
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phreakysfinally everything works now, but as im upgrading everything now(including kernel), must I do the whole kernel build again?07:03
mikkii need help with the wireless connection on my computer, somebody that can help me?07:03
phreakysif so, from what part should i start?07:03
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phreakysdoesnt work mikki?07:04
pishtaI have lots of programs, I just can't install them07:05
pishtaanyone?07:06
phreakysyou can use the packet manager (adept) for that pishta07:06
phreakysor... sudo apt-get install (programname)07:07
pishtaI tryed that command and nothing07:07
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fdovingpishta: kmenu -> system -> adept manager07:07
nargpishta: what error message did you get?07:07
lupine_85phreakys: kernel upgrade will render your current kernel obsolete (including the custom config). So just save your .config and do a make oldconfig on the new sources07:08
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phreakys!oldconfig07:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oldconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:08
phreakystnx lupine07:08
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pishtathnks phreakys07:11
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pishtathnks narg07:11
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baldiis there an blowfish plugin for konversation available?07:14
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fekhow do i switch my opengl vendor from mesa to ati?07:16
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tonyazpayuda07:16
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tonyazpnecesito ayuda07:16
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mikkii need help with the wireless connection on my computer, somebody that can help me?07:17
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[GuS] tonyazp, #Kubuntu-es07:18
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Alex_hello07:20
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gan|y|medhello07:21
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gan|y|medi wanna mount a "firewired" harddisk. partition one is vfat and can be mounted rw, partition 2 is reiserfs and is mount rw only for root (using the automounter). any ideas why this is this way?07:22
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gourdinhi there07:23
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gourdinI need some (k)ubuntu users to reproduce this bug : http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13278607:23
gourdinif someone can help =)07:23
gourdinthx in advance07:23
DaSkreech!info dash07:23
Kr4t05Question, is there anyway to change the file system of a hard disk without deleting the files?07:24
ubotudash: The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.3-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 81 kB, installed size 204 kB07:24
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:24
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Kr4t05I know, in Windows, you could change from FAT32 to NTFS without losing data.07:24
gan|y|medKr4t05: no07:24
lupine_85gan|y|med: the permissions on the reiserfs fs are root-only?07:25
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lupine_85or ir doesn't have the user option in fstab ?07:25
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azazel35Amis bonsoir !07:25
lupine_85...."it", rather...07:26
gan|y|medlupine_85: yes, but i cannot figure out why. i have tried to mount it by hand with the same options. not all of them can be used with -o, but the ones i tried don't do the trick07:26
lupine_85to mount as user, it needs to have the user option in fstab07:26
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gan|y|medlupine_85: i don't use fstab for this as it is mounted via the automounter07:26
azazel35#kubuntu-fr07:26
lupine_85mounting by hand won't do the trick07:26
lupine_85Just append it to the current list of options and you'll be set to go07:26
DaSkreech!fr07:26
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:26
lupine_85it should still have an fstab entry?07:27
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lupine_85if absolutely not, try changing the permissions of the directory it's being mounted on07:27
gan|y|medwhy? the vfat works without problems07:27
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gan|y|medand i don't wanna make it static. what's the point of automount then?07:28
gan|y|medand udev07:28
fekhow do i switch my opengl vendor from mesa to ati?07:28
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gan|y|medfek: install ati drivers?07:29
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baldidoes anyone use blowfish + koversation?07:30
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gan|y|medlupine_85: any ideas?07:30
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lupine_85aside from the directory permissions, not really I'm afraid07:31
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gan|y|medi wanna mount a "firewired" harddisk. partition one is vfat and can be mounted rw, partition 2 is reiserfs and is mount rw only for root (using the automounter). any ideas why this is this way?07:31
DaSkreechbaldi: You can ask in #konversation as well07:31
lupine_85it's not a problem i've come across, as I try to keep everything as static as possible ;)07:31
baldithx07:32
gan|y|medand me as flexible as possible :)07:32
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gan|y|medokay, i have found an option for the vfat: mount as user. but there is no for the reiserfs partition. does anybody know why dapper behaves this way with me ? :(07:34
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lupine_85vfat doesn't come with permissions, whereas reiserfs does?07:36
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lupine_85presumably, it's just giving what it thinks are sane defaults07:36
lupine_85s/defaults/options07:36
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pussfellerwell i got xgl working and it runs ok on my mx420 and 600mhz P3 except the mouse doesnt refresh half the time and I cannot see it07:37
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grothesk_rnel ready07:38
grothesk_ First of all make sure that you are using the 2.6 series kernel, and your glidepoint hardware using event interface. For testing you m07:38
grothesk_Sorry...!07:38
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grothesk_How can I reenable an ALPS Touchpad after a resume from suspend2ram? Right now it ist dead afterwards.07:39
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gan|y|medlupine_85: s/defaults/options ????07:39
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dusty_Hey guys im trying to run azureus under kubuntu when i run it it starts (i can see it in ps aux | grep azureus) and it flashes the warnings up but its not on the taskbar and i have no way of brining the interface up anyone know what i can do?07:40
marco_hello07:40
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marco_ciao07:40
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lupine_85sed script to fix my type ;)07:41
GhostynessI installed kubuntu to a partition, then windows to a ntfs one. Now, It's automatically booting off the windows partition instead of the kubuntu one (which has grub to choose). I installed windows after. I tried using gparted and just setting my ext3 kubuntu partition with the boot flag, and it didn't work it had a "unable to find operating system" error (that showed when I turned on my...07:41
Ghostyness...computer). Right now I'm in windows xp. how can I set it to load off the partition and launch grub so I can dual boot?07:41
lupine_85!it07:41
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:41
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marco_italiani?????? campioni del mondooooooooooooooooooooooo07:42
marco_champion of the world07:42
Tm_Terr?07:42
DaSkreechWeeeeee are the champions my frrrieennddddd07:42
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marco_hahahahahaha07:42
Tm_Tbehave, please07:42
DaSkreechAnd weeeeee'llll keep on fighting till the end07:42
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Ghostyness>I installed kubuntu to a partition, then windows to a ntfs one. Now, It's automatically booting off the windows partition instead of the kubuntu one (which has grub to choose). I installed windows after. I tried using gparted and just setting my ext3 kubuntu partition with the boot flag, and it didn't work it had a "unable to find operating system" error (that showed when I turned on my...07:43
Ghostyness...computer). Right now I'm in windows xp. how can I set it to load grub?07:43
marco_yes you are cool daskreech07:43
Tm_TGhostyness: sorry but repeating doesn't really help ;(07:43
DaSkreechGhostyness: have you read !grub07:44
DaSkreech!grub07:44
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:44
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GhostynessDaSkreech: Thanks07:44
marco_is my first ubuntu installation i no idea i don't help you07:44
Martijn81Ghostyness: windows had the habit to overwrite the bootmanager with his own, you'll have to recover it07:45
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GhostynessMartijn81: alright reading the grub page07:45
Martijn81my bad, i was slow again...07:45
marco_italiani qui no ??????????????'07:46
intelikey!it07:46
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:46
Tm_Tmarco_: please use english07:46
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marco_c' qualcuno che parla la mia lingua?07:46
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marco_ok i'm sorry07:47
Tm_Tno problemo, just don't make it a habit07:47
marco_:(07:47
marco_thank you07:47
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gan|y|meddoes anybody know how to change the default options for automounted file systems?07:48
intelikeyman mount   might know07:49
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gan|y|medfor the automounter?07:50
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marco_disturbo un ultima volta in italiano poi mandatemi a quel paese se volete: come ci si connette a ubuntu.it?07:51
intelikeyyes.   defaults can be adjusted.   i don't recall the specifics.   something like make a file /etc/mount.conf   or some thing and put the new defaults in it.07:51
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intelikeyi don't automount other than fstab so i wasn't interested in that when i read it. gan|y|med07:52
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gan|y|medintelikey: and do you knwo how to change it? is it some udev or hotplug option?07:53
intelikey^07:53
gan|y|medit is bad enough that windows is not smart enough to read reiserfs so i had to create a vfat option (feels like stone age)07:53
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intelikeybut !      gan|y|med what you are probably wanting is to just add a line in fstab   example; /dev/hda7 /media/something vfat defaults,umask=022,fmask=111,dmask=044,uid=1000 0 007:58
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intelikeyshort form (insecure) /dev/hda7 /media/something vfat umask=0 0 008:00
gan|y|medintelikey: yes, that would be possible, but then it is valid for any /dev/sda2 (in my case) and when i add sth different then the disk (usb-stick, other disk) i get this behaviour and possibly a security risk or whatever...08:00
intelikeyi really doubt that you want to change the default mount options.08:00
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otaku-sanwhere do I need to save window decorations so that it can find them08:02
oslodo someone try to use quark xpress on kubuntu with wine ??08:02
gan|y|medintelikey: well, the first problem is that i don't know the mount point, as it can be ieee1394disk or ieee1394disk-108:02
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Kr4t05otaku-san: if you get a properly made archive, you should be able to install them with KControl08:03
aliasfredq. when using nano, i would like to prevent the 'wrap around' on the text ? aka when a line is greater that 80 characters, dont insert a new line automatically. is there a way to set such behaviour by default ?08:03
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hakimSALUT A TOUS08:03
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xyushiya08:04
draikSalut08:04
intelikeygan|y|med also that line ^ wont mount anything but ntfs/vfat/msdos the options u/d/fmask are M$ specific options.   so maybe you do want to change the default mount options.  man mount08:04
otaku-sanKr4t05: you mean it should come with a make file that automatically sends it to Kcontrol?08:04
Kr4t05otaku-san: wait a moment08:05
otaku-sank08:05
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xyusGuys08:05
xyusI have a problem08:05
xyusI have to convert a rpm to deb08:05
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xyusI downloaded Alien08:05
intelikeygan|y|med if you change default mount options, be sure to specify the current options for / in the fstab so it doesn't also change.08:05
xyusbut I i typ "sudo alien LimeWire.rpm" it says "unkown file" wtf08:05
draikxyus            man alien08:05
Kr4t05xyus: use frostwire08:05
hakimUN PERSONN PEUX M AIDER SUR LINUX  UBUNTU SVP08:06
xyusfrostwire08:06
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draikfrostwire kicks08:06
xyusbut it says unkown file08:06
xyusthe file is NOT UNKOWN08:06
xyusI've typed it right08:06
xyusIt can't find it08:06
aliasfred!fr08:06
xyus:s08:06
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:06
xyusok08:06
Kr4t05xyus: sudo apt-get install frostwire, don't bother with limewire08:06
aliasfredhakim cest pour toi :)08:06
draikxyus           sudo apt-get install frostwire08:06
xyusbut I want to know how to convert a dep to rpm08:06
draikxyus            man alien08:06
hakimMERCI08:06
intelikeyxyus may i ask why you have to convert this file?   what is the app/package ?08:06
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xyusit is limewire , setup is rpm08:07
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Kr4t05xyus: you don't even have to use the RPM version for Limewire.08:07
intelikeyoh limewire 'im slow'   hehhe use frost08:07
xyusterminal can't find frostwire08:07
draikxyus, use frostwire... go through adept if you must.......08:07
Kr4t05!limewire08:07
aliasfredhakim: et les majucules cest pas forcees :) (and caps are not mandatory)08:07
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.08:07
otaku-sanxyus: I had to install Automatix and then Frostwire to get it08:07
xyussudo apt-get install frostwire08:07
Kr4t05!limewire > xyus08:07
xyusdoes not work08:07
DaSkreech!frostwire > xyus08:08
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otaku-sanxyus: I had the same problem...use automatix08:08
gan|y|medintelikey: well, i have changed the options, now i should be able to mount and write to it as user. but as expected, the mount point does not - yet - exist, as it is created by the automounter (or whatever is doing this). isn't there a kde option?08:08
xyusyes ok!08:08
xyusxD08:08
xyusthanks08:08
xyusautomatix08:08
xyusok ok08:08
Kr4t05xyus: just saying that something doesn't work doesn't help us. Give details.08:08
intelikey!info frostwire08:08
ubotuPackage frostwire does not exist in any distro I know08:08
otaku-sanxyus: sorry....place was getting hectic08:08
Kr4t05intelikey: oh, my bad.08:09
Kr4t05intelikey: There is no frostwire package. ><08:09
xyusok..08:09
Kr4t05Only if you download the .deb from frostwire.com08:09
xyusand automatix?08:09
Kr4t05xyus: Do you have java installed yet?08:10
otaku-sanI tried the .deb does not work08:10
intelikeygan|y|med ask someone that uses X    cli here.08:10
DaSkreechintelikey: It's not available by apt-get it's on the Frostwire site they have an ubuntu deb08:10
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xyusI do not know08:10
xyushow to instal java08:10
otaku-sanKr4t05: d00d you can have Java totally updated...Frostwire just won't install08:10
Kr4t05otaku-san: d00d! maybe you're doing something wrong.08:11
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intelikeyDaSkreech ^ @ xyus08:11
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gan|y|medok, does anybody use kde here :) and automount and knows how to change the defaults for automounted file system, perhaps in kde itself (kcontrol or config file)???08:11
xyushmm wtf08:11
xyuswhat is the command08:11
xyusto install a .deb file?08:11
DaSkreech!java > xyus08:11
x4tr1xxapt-ger install08:11
Kr4t05I love it how people talk like morons and expect to be taken seriously.08:11
x4tr1xxfor dep file08:11
poningrugan|y|med: just look in /etc/fstab08:11
DaSkreechdpkg -i file.deb08:11
otaku-sanKr4t05: I had the same freakin problem.....I used Automatix....and installed Frostwire with it..08:12
poningruget rid of automount its teh lame08:12
xyusthank you08:12
Kr4t05otaku-san: easyubuntu08:12
Kr4t05Automatix is a PITA08:12
TheGateKeeperxyus: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox08:12
intelikeyxyus sudo dpkg -i file.deb08:12
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gan|y|medwell, it is not08:12
gan|y|medfor sb who uses a laptop08:12
xyusthank  you08:13
gan|y|medand fstab does not work for anything that is NOT supposed to be static08:13
otaku-sanKr4t05: It worked tho'...so I used it...oh this is useless...lets talk about something else08:13
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xyusfuck it08:14
xyusfukcing ubuntu08:14
xyusnothing works :'(08:14
xyusI'm gonna switch to windows back again08:14
DaSkreech!language08:14
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:14
Kr4t05xyus: It works if you actually try. But, I suppose you'd be better off with Clippy walking you through everything.08:15
xyusdon't I need to specify in what file my frostwire is?08:15
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intelikeygan|y|med actually fstab can work for things that are not supposed to be startic.   as long as you use one line per device/mountpoint    you can add noauto and then just 'mount blah' at will.08:15
otaku-sanxyus: sorry about Frostwire not working...yeah Linux can be a cow when it comes to some things....\08:15
draikI can't start my sshd08:15
draikIt keeps failing08:16
atidemhi08:16
x4tr1xxtry sudo sshd08:16
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intelikeygan|y|med i realize that's not eligant danty or fashionable  but it does work.08:16
lupine_85better, look for error messages08:16
lupine_85it's probably failing for a reason08:16
draiksshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path08:16
lupine_85 /etc/init.d/sshd start would be a good start08:17
x4tr1xxmaybe08:18
draikI type              sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start08:18
x4tr1xxok08:18
DaSkreechxyus: If you really that impatient Maybe computers aren't for you?08:18
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draikthen I get            * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                        [fail] 08:18
intelikeyas root ^08:18
intelikey:)08:18
intelikeydraik try   restart08:19
draikas root? or as sudo?08:19
intelikeysudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart08:19
x4tr1xxif you havent ubunut you really should start with root :-)08:19
x4tr1xxlogin as root08:19
x4tr1xxand then start08:19
x4tr1xxor su root08:19
intelikeydraik when you use sudo you run it as root....08:19
draikrestart worked08:19
draikright08:19
x4tr1xxyea i know08:19
draikwhen you said root, I thought you meant su rather than sudo08:20
draikbut still no        sshd08:20
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draiksshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path08:20
x4tr1xxok now i will play little counter strike maybe see you later08:21
lupine_85the auto init-scripts work fine with my server08:21
intelikeydraik ok then you probably used killall to stop sshd the last time.... that left /etc/init.d/ssh thinking that it as still running.    when killing thing started via init scripts it's generally good practice to kill them with init scripts.08:21
draikyup08:21
draikI did killall08:21
ubuntuHello! I'm from Malaysia. Today is my first time using  Kubuntu system. Its look cools and not bad. Maybe better than Windows!08:22
lupine_85... -9 ? ;)08:22
draikintelikey, so what do I do to get it back up and running08:22
draikand what is the proper way to stop with init scripts?08:22
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intelikeysudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart    <--- does that not work ?08:23
draikyup08:23
draikthat worked08:23
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intelikeysudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop    <--- to kill08:23
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draikoh, ok. I know that NOW.08:24
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pointwoodhi, anyone used kwlan? I need something that supports WPA08:24
lupine_85pointwood: which chipset and drivers?08:24
draikso then to get it back up and running after, I type:        sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start08:24
lupine_85there are two different ways that WPA can be started08:24
draikbut I fail on start08:25
draikrestart gives me an OK     start gives me a FAIL08:25
pointwoodlupine_85: intel something...one moment :)08:25
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IzzuddinHey ya!08:26
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draikany clues intelikey?08:27
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intelikeydraik gennerally init scripts accept any one of    start stop restart     and act accordingly.    some scripts have a shutdown counter part  example  mountall.sh has umountfs   and so forth....08:27
lupine_85there is a force-reload08:27
lupine_85that could be interesting/useful08:27
IzzuddinNow I install and using Edubuntu.08:28
pointwoodlupine_85: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Mini-PCI Express Adapter08:28
lupine_85just standard wpa_supplicant should be fine then08:28
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lupine_85!WPA08:28
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:28
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draikIf I do     stop     and then   start     again, it gives me the ok, but still no sshd08:29
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draikwhat is a          re-exec          command?08:29
intelikeydraik clue.   if you stop it via the init script  it's supposed to remove the lockfile  so that you can start it via the init script.       if you don't ever start it via the init script,  you can just kill it.  example without init.   sudo sshd  (starts it)   sudo killall sshd (stops it)08:30
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draikok08:31
intelikeyre-exec = execute again08:31
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draikso how do I start it?  the script fails. sshd   "re-exec requires execution with an absolute path"08:31
Izzuddinsudo root password? What is that?08:32
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draikI tried          sudo sshd /etc/init.d/ssh start08:32
draiknothing08:32
draikexcept for an error       "re-exec: command not found"08:32
pointwoodthx for the info lupine_85_lalala08:33
intelikeyIzzuddin there is no root password.  it's asking for your user password08:33
draik!root > Izzuddin08:33
IzzuddinIs Xubuntu is better than Ubuntu already?08:33
intelikey" sudo sshd /etc/init.d/ssh start "    bogus command.08:33
MezIzzuddin, it all depends on your opinion of xubuntu ;)08:33
digitscan i minimize all windows with the keyboard? like the windows win+m08:34
draikwhoops08:34
IzzuddinHow can I help to promote Ubuntu in Malaysia?08:34
draikI tried          sudo re-exec /etc/init.d/ssh start08:34
intelikeydraik wrong " sudo sshd /etc/init.d/ssh start "   try "sudo sshd"08:34
MezIzzuddin, lemme find someone who'll be able to help you08:34
draikI did08:34
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intelikey" sudo re-exec /etc/init.d/ssh start "  bogus command08:34
draiksshd   "sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path"08:35
draikI'm trying/typing anything that might work08:35
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intelikeydraik wrong " sudo re-exec /etc/init.d/ssh start "   try " sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start "08:35
IzzuddinWho is that?08:35
DaSkreechdigits: Try Alt+Ctrl=D08:35
draikintelikey............08:35
draikI get FAIL08:36
draiklet me do stop and then start......... maybe that will do something08:36
draikok...08:37
draikso   stop gives me OK and then typing start gives me OK08:37
MezIzzuddin, still here ?08:37
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IzzuddinYes...08:37
digitsDaSkreech: oh, thanks :)08:37
draikintelikey, ok so now I have OK08:38
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intelikeydraik looks like you are finnally getting it....  :)08:38
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DaSkreechdigits: No Problem08:38
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intelikeydraik perhaps who ever said to "re-exec" that should have told you to "$re-exec" that command.   then even if you typed in the $re-exec it would not have caused a problem  :)))08:41
DaSkreechubotu: Hi08:41
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draikintelikey, so what do I do now?08:41
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intelikeydraik i don't know?  what do you want to do ?08:42
ubotuHi! Welcome to $chan!08:42
draiktry to sshd again like I did last night (my last night anyway)08:42
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intelikeyyou have sshd running for a reason i presume......08:43
draikyup08:43
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intelikeyno08:43
draikno?08:43
IzzuddinMy younger brother likes Edubuntu games hahaha...08:43
intelikeyno you don't sshd08:43
intelikeyyou ssh08:43
gan|y|medintelikey: i would like to have complete access to a mounted fs as user. how is the option in fstab? i have tried several, i can mount, but not write still08:43
draikoh08:43
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intelikeysshd=secure shell daemon08:43
draiksorry08:43
draikI ssh then08:43
intelikeysshd is the server   ssh is the client08:44
draikoic08:44
terry_anybody want to help me install WINE? :)08:44
intelikeygan|y|med it's fs specific.   assuming vfat umask=0  will suffice08:44
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DaSkreech!wine08:45
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:45
intelikeyterry_ sudo apt-get install wine08:45
gan|y|medintelikey: reiserfs?08:45
DaSkreechterry_: There you go :)08:45
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IzzuddinWhat is WINE?08:45
terry_gracias08:45
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draikWINE is Wine Is Not an Emulator08:45
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intelikeygan|y|med you have to either chown or chmod the mounted fs    you should man both.08:46
draikalthough others have named it WINdows Emulator08:46
draiklets you run win apps08:46
DaSkreechIzzuddin: did you read what ubotu just said?08:46
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gan|y|medyou mean chmod the dir?08:46
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intelikeywine is a windows apt in linux iirc08:46
IzzuddinNo, sorry...08:46
draikintelikey08:47
intelikeys/apt/api08:47
draikthank you08:47
draikit works08:47
IzzuddinOhh.....08:47
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ubuntuit is possible to rename an user account (with its home folder)08:47
ubuntu?08:47
intelikeyof course it works draik, when you get finished playing with the server and connect a client to it    lol08:47
intelikey:)08:47
draik:)08:47
gan|y|medintelikey: everytime i mount the device the permissions are changed back. could this be a udev rule?08:48
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intelikeyubuntu yes it is.   but why not just make a new one ?08:48
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IzzuddinErm... I want to join Dalnet server but how? I'm using Konversation in Kubuntu Live CD now.08:48
draikWINE question... do you have to install it on Kubuntu, or can you run it from a HDD if already installed on winxp? (Dualbooting)08:48
intelikeygan|y|med umount it and chmod the mount point    see if that helps08:49
draikIzzuddin, go to your server list and add it on there.08:49
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ubuntuintelikey: how do you do that?08:49
intelikeyyou can run most things on the hd draik08:49
ironfroggycan X clients move between servers?08:49
draikI installed the game on winxp08:50
intelikeyubuntu  man useradd08:50
draikcan I run it with WINE or do I have to install the game on Kubuntu?08:50
ubuntuintelikey: ok i'll take a look at this08:50
ironfroggyor is there a way to get a window to be seen and controlled on a remote server, without sharing the whole desktop?08:50
ubuntuintelikey: thanks08:50
terry_do i want libwine or wine?08:50
gan|y|medintelikey: tried already, always changes back08:50
ironfroggydraik: you would be better asking in a wine channel08:50
draik10-408:50
intelikeyubuntu  also note the grups that the master user is in and add them to the new user so your sudo will work for them.08:51
draikj #wine08:51
draikwhoops08:51
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intelikeygan|y|med udev/devfs should never alter a fs   if you do a sudo chmod 777 blah   on the fs then umount && mount it it should have the permissions you set.   i can't think of anything that would alter that.08:52
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intelikeydraik it may be  #wine-hq  or something like that   idk.08:54
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draikpeople in #wine are not responding and #wine-hq... I'm alone :(08:54
SurgerThat adept updater thingy just screwed up my xserver. If I try run an OpenGL app it crashes KDE.  >:-(08:55
SurgerHow do I roll back?08:55
draiksudo dpkg --configure -a08:55
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draik^Surger08:55
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CyberMaddraik try crossover office08:55
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intelikeygan|y|med there is nothing in mount that could affect that, that i know of  other than the  noexec  option that would prevent execution of binarry files    perms should be strictly reiser's domain.08:56
gan|y|medintelikey: works now. but i don't understand it08:56
draikCyberMad, what is that?08:56
gan|y|medintelikey: yes, and i would like to know where to change reiser perms...08:56
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intelikeywith chmod    you write them to the inodes them selves08:57
beckhello, do you know when the new Version of Azureus would be available in the repos?08:57
Surgerdraik: The install went fine - I rebooted - how do I rollback when I can't even remeber the packages it updated?08:57
TheGateKeeperSurger: unfortunately linux does not yet have role-back, you have to do your own backup first08:58
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SurgerIs there no way to query the last installed packages by date?08:58
Surgeri.e. Downgrade packages I installed 2 days ago.08:58
intelikeySurger man aptitude    it might be able.08:58
gan|y|medintelikey: thanks a lot. do you know where to change the reiser perms so that i can make that permanent for any reiserfs partiton that is portable08:59
aliasfreda good idea tho... it is not hard to remember the order of installage package and to rollback08:59
aliasfredbut may be looked at a feature bloat08:59
terry_how do i add a harddrive that has alot of music on it, that was previously on a windows computer?08:59
aliasfredSurger: what doyou wanna do that ? i mean what is your purpose ?08:59
aliasfredwhat=why09:00
intelikeygan|y|med again i'm telling you.  it's not about mount.  the perms are on the fs it's self.   you would have to chmod blah blah everything you mount09:00
aliasfredterry_: you mount :) aka you plug it and declare it to linux09:00
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Surgeraliasfred: adept installed an xserver update which breaks OpenGL. I can't remember the package name but I have a broken system now.09:00
terry_yeah.. i'm trying to figure it out09:00
gan|y|medso there is nothing central and reiserfs specific (not mount) to change that?09:00
terry_so i click type, and call it NTFS09:01
terry_but where should the mount point be?09:01
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intelikeygan|y|med  NO !09:01
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aliasfredSurger: ah ok. it is only opengl ? x works fine ?09:01
gan|y|medintelikey: sorry, just wanted to make sure09:01
Surgerx works perfectly09:01
aliasfredSurger: but i see the usefullness of rollback now09:01
intelikeygan|y|med np.  and you're welcome.09:02
Surgeraliasfred: But when I try run an OpenGL app or even glxinfo - it core dumps09:02
aliasfredSurger: ok was just wondering if it was the bug hickup with xorg upgrade of last week09:02
gan|y|medthx. ciao09:02
SurgerXorg just restarts09:02
aliasfredSurger: yep, sorry i dunno the solution09:02
Surgeraliasfred: Reinstall :p09:03
SurgerI'd rather go back to Windows XP than have to reinstall.09:03
intelikeySurger you might get lucky and there be an update to fix it.... if it's a know issue they have probably been working on it.     sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:04
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aliasfredSurger: i understand. personnaly i dont do upgrade except when necessary. exactly to avoid this kind of issue09:04
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Surgeraliasfred: Yeah me too but this new adept updater thing in the task bar looked like something that may work. :)09:05
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intelikeyaliasfred yes.  but once in the middle of it.  backing up beeing harder than going forword....09:05
terry_Umm, Amarok just said it couldn't intialize any audio drivers, and yesterday it did. and i haven't changed anything except for installing WINE today.09:05
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aliasfredin fact i still run fc4 as 'production env' for a 1year even if it has been clear for 6month that my next install will be kubuntu  :)09:05
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aliasfredSurger: cool then :)09:06
aliasfredintelikey: ok09:06
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Surgeraliasfred: No not cool - I'll never use it again.09:06
kermitI installed kubuntu  6.0.6 using a different monitor, now I have the right monitor connected and I have 640x480 and cannot change it, any hints?09:06
aliasfredSurger: not use what ?09:06
SurgerThat adept updater taskbar app that runs by default in Dapper09:07
aliasfredSurger: oh i get it :)09:07
intelikeykermit sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg        read and answer all questions.09:07
intelikeyif you need help ask.09:07
aliasfredSurger: yep, i understand. but yes you have to be very carefull in updating software.09:08
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SurgerSo where do I start hunting for the answer? Xorg bug lists?09:08
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aliasfredSurger: wow. it is likely better to handle this with package09:09
aliasfredSurger: it may very well not be a xorg bug09:09
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aliasfredyour previous approach of downgrading package seems the good one09:09
terry_Ok, each time I mount my harddrive, the place i mount it to automatically gets locked from me. I can't enter the folder once I mount.09:09
intelikeySurger sudo apt-get dist-upgrade      it's worth a try.09:10
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intelikeySurger like i said earlier they may have alreadt fixed it.09:10
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intelikeyalready09:10
aliasfredSurger: about the broken package update, thing will get better when all ubuntu will have a stable version. around november from memory09:10
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intelikeyterry_ what fs ?09:11
terry_NTFS09:11
kermitintelikey: ok.. I can do that.. but why do I find resolution/video card listed in System Settings -> Hardware -> Display and I can use administrator mode but not change resolution?09:11
terry_like i said, i pulled it out of a windows computer so i could play music on my new kubuntu box.09:11
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Surgerintelikey: 0 packages to update :)09:12
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intelikeyyou need some options added to the mount command   umask=0  would work  but it's not called safe.   @ terry_09:13
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intelikeySurger then not today i guess....    didn't hurt to check tho.09:13
terry_not... safe?09:13
intelikeyterry_ umask=0 gives world read/write/execute access to the drive.09:14
terry_good. :)09:14
terry_works perfectly.09:14
intelikeyterry_ man mount   if you want details.09:14
intelikeyfor M$ file systems the options that you should look at are   " uid  gid  umask fmask dmask "09:16
intelikeyand the general options  " user users "09:16
terry_and now i run into mp3s...09:16
intelikey!mp309:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:16
intelikey!ntfs09:16
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:16
SurgerAha ... I looked at the last modified value for the files in /var/lib/dpkg/info and it's the xserver-xorg-core update that is the package that broke it.09:17
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SurgerBut I've seen this complaint on Google as well - there is no way to query the installed date for a package.09:18
intelikeyyou can check your version09:19
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intelikeyxserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb09:19
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intelikeythat one seems to work here....   i started X  and made sure.09:20
terry_deb-src for repositories means the source code right?09:20
intelikeyterry_ correct09:20
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terry_ty :)09:21
intelikeynp :)09:21
terry_if you haven't noticed, i'm allll new to kubuntu, and now i'm on the quest for playing mp3s on amarok :)09:21
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SurgerHmmm ... it seems that the xorg core stuff installs it's own glx libs - that probably is the reason it breaks glx apps. Let me go and reinstall the opengl drivers.09:21
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intelikeyterry_ yeah after seeing that same thing about 40000 times it's pretty noticable.... :)09:22
terry_:-/09:23
grotheskterry_:09:23
grothesk!mp309:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:23
intelikeywe just did that ^  :)09:23
terry_yeah, i'm working on it.09:23
intelikey!vlc > terry_09:24
intelikeyjust something else to think about.09:24
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terry_hmm.09:25
terry_on other question, i think i downloaded a media play for GNOME09:25
terry_so does that mean i'm going to have to run gnome, then the media player?09:25
intelikeynope09:25
terry_or is that even possible on kubuntu?09:25
intelikeyit's possable  but not needed09:26
intelikeyjust run the app you want to run....09:26
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intelikeyanything built for specific env will initiate the portion of that env it needs.09:27
terry_cooool.09:27
intelikeyassuming it's not buggy or lame....09:27
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intelikeymost thing in the repos are not buggy or lame....  but you never know.   even M$ windows can have a bug     right ?09:28
terry_:)09:28
terry_i laughed when the first time i booted KDE i already froze it up.09:28
terry_i was playing with the OpenGL screen savers, and it didn't like it.09:28
intelikeyit can happen....  there is 'NO' real quality control on opensource  the distro dev's are the full extent of qc09:29
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intelikeyand they don't write much of the distro.  usually just the installer and a few distro specific configs.09:30
terry_:-/ you get what you pay for.09:31
terry_(hah)09:31
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terry_although in that case microsoft should pay us to use their OS.09:31
intelikeyin a sense.   and i like freedom  :)09:31
intelikeylol @ the M$ pun     agree09:31
draikactually, I remember getting a letter in the mail about sueing m$09:32
draikThey would pay you for having used their products09:32
draiksomething about "we're sorry for the buggy software" or some such thing09:33
intelikeythey didn't pay me... and their products didn't get used....   so i guess they got what they paid for.... :)09:33
draikI used their products09:33
draikbut I never paid for them09:33
terry_:)09:33
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terry_only thing that will keep me coming back is for gaming.09:34
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terry_wine i think is a bit out of my league for right now.09:34
terry_but i did get the mp3s working. :)09:34
intelikeyeven though i can sympthize with the attatude draik i can't condone the pratice.09:34
draikI'm gonna go out and buy a Y-connector for my PSU so that I can install a 3rd HDD09:34
draikwhat are you talking about intelikey, I never paid for them because they were given out at my University... never paid for them... :p09:35
intelikeythird hdd ???     hmmm this box has 8 drives in it.09:35
terry_ok, heres a question. how do i install M-Audio Revolution 7.1 soundcard drivers if i know M-Audio doesn't support linux?09:35
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draikI have two 250GB HDD, and I will install an 80GB HDD once I get that connector09:36
terry_ok i take back that question. kind of.09:36
intelikeyterry_ you install a real sound card.09:36
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draikit's past 12pm here, time to get my day started09:36
draikTTYL09:37
draikHAND09:37
intelikeyshalom Draik09:37
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terry_intelikey: what were you implying >:|09:37
intelikeyimplying ?      hmmmm  would i do that ???09:37
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terry_stopppiiit >_<09:38
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intelikeylet me just say it plainly,  any hardware that doesn't support opensource is not worth using.09:38
intelikeythere i've said it.09:39
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kermithmm.. K -> Add/Remove programs -> select Firefox and I get a complaint that it would break something and does not install, please help?09:39
terry_oh. well opensound.com made drivers for it09:39
aliasfredintelikey: you forgot 'in my opinion' at the end ? :)09:39
Admiral_Chicagokermit, sudo apt-get remove firefox?09:40
intelikeyaliasfred you can read that in if you choose, but that will be your opinion wont it :)09:40
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aliasfred:)09:40
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intelikeywell i'm gonna scram for a bit    or  byte or  maybe an  'ate bit bite'   :)09:42
terry_...wow.09:43
kermitAdmiral_Chicago: "Package firefox is not installed, so not removed" now what?09:43
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Admiral_Chicagoare you trying to install it or what?09:43
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kermitI installed the same dvd install of kubuntu a few days ago and had no problems adding firefox to that machine09:43
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Admiral_Chicagoso you can't install firefox because something might break?09:44
kermitI would like to install firefox but adept says it will break something? does not say what it will break09:44
Admiral_Chicagodid you try command line?09:44
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Admiral_Chicagoi'm off to a movie. try checking command line09:45
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kermitAdmiral_Chicago: aha.. thanks.. apt-get install firefox shows libatk and libgtk not installed, but I had no issue installing firefox on the previouus machine only days ago.. hmm09:45
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claus_What is the terminal command to identify the graphics card i have on my computer?09:46
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mister_unknownlspci | grep -i vga09:47
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terry__how do i stop kubuntu from "resuming session"09:48
terry__like every time i boot up it re-installs some package.09:49
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mister_unknown@terry: try the following commands09:49
mister_unknownapt-get -f install09:49
kermitI cannot find kruler or something like it and gimp does not have gimp-Perl installable??09:49
mister_unknownapt-get dist-upgrade09:49
terry__ok.09:50
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bsmhm, is it a feature of amarok that it starts playing automatically again after I stop it when I click somewhere?09:51
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kermithmm.. I cannot seem to install ANYTHING..09:53
kermitI have kubuntu 6.0.6 up and running.. but adept complains about everthing I try to install09:54
javi_hi09:54
terry__whats it say?09:54
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javi_does some body have a Pentium D?09:54
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whateverkermit: screw adept, try "aptitude install synaptic", then run stnaptic for a gui install09:54
terry__whatever: how do you install synaptic?09:55
terry__i take that back09:55
whateveraptitude install synaptic !!09:55
terry__dumb question09:55
terry__:)09:55
whateverfrom the terminal09:55
terry__sorry i have brain farts.09:55
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whateverok how do I totally 'uninstall' network card ad its settings?09:57
kermitwhatever: ok.. aptitude install synaptic says "done" but I cannot get it to run, command not found09:58
whateverto begin from scratch, as I have screwed my network settings09:58
kermittried sudo synaptic09:58
whateverkermit: try from the run command09:58
whateveralt+f209:58
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whatever!network10:00
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:00
whatever!http10:01
ubotuBrowsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache210:01
kermitwhatever: no work. my run command dialog goes away but  no app runs10:01
whateverare you sure you installed it correctly? did it downlaod something before installing?10:02
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kermitwhatever: if I do run in terminal for sudo synaptic  and get a terminal and type password.. nothing happens10:02
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andreas_Hallo Leute10:03
andreas_Brauche Hilfe10:03
andreas_ist jemand da?10:03
mister_unknownleg los10:03
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andreas_Habe Probs mit meinen Laufwerken10:04
andreas_Kann unter Kubuntu nicht auswerfen wenn ich auf dem Laufwerk den Knopf drcke10:04
andreas_liegt das an den Einstellungen?10:04
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kermitwhatever: CORRECTION .. I get command not found10:05
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andreas_mister_unkown, kannst du helfen?10:06
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mister_unknowndann ist es noch gemountet10:06
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mister_unknownversuch ma, beim Desktopsymbol "auswerfen" anzuklicken (rechte Maustaste)10:07
andreas_ok. Damit kann ich leben10:07
andreas_Habe aber noch ein Prob10:07
andreas_mit K3B10:07
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andreas_Wenn ich Mit dem brenner auslese, und mit dem gleichen Brenner auch brennen will, dann bricht er nach dem auslesen ab10:08
plhardy__ich wisse nicht dass es war ein deutsche platzt hier10:08
andreas_schreibt mir laufwerk konnte nicht ausgeworfen werden10:08
mister_unknown@plhardy: pardon!10:09
terry_call me crazy, but i can't find where WINE installs itself.10:10
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mister_unknownandreas: hast Du ein Laufwerk im Laptop, oder einen Tower?10:10
plhardy__terry_:in some glass...10:11
kermithow do I update package sources?10:11
terry_that helps. :)10:11
gnomefreak!de10:11
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:11
gnomefreakkermit: sudo apt-get update10:11
plhardy__fuer ? feuer !10:11
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andreas_mister_unkown Desktop PC10:11
kermitgnomefreak: I'm getting "unavailable" for some dependencies.. so I'm hoping to fix this10:12
gnomefreakkermit: can you please paste the command and errors to pastebin10:12
plhardy__terry_: if you are looking for wine configuration it can be around a ~/.wine ?10:12
terry_i'm just trying to run the thing.10:12
gnomefreak!wine10:13
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:13
plhardy__terry_: wine truc.exe ...10:13
gnomefreak^^^ tells you how to run the config for wine10:13
terry_gracias10:13
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terry_lets see where this goes.10:13
DaSkreech!de10:14
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:14
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plhardy__!help10:14
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage10:14
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kermitgnomefreak: K -> System -> Adept, supply password, search "gimp" select install and it says "BREAK install"  not much to pastbin10:15
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gnomefreakkermit: type sudo apt-get install gimp10:16
gnomefreakkermit: in terminal10:16
gnomefreakpaste the output to pastebin please10:16
juhohello10:17
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kermitgnomefreak: that produces dependency failures for libatk and libgtk10:18
gnomefreakkermit: i need the full error and yes im not suprised as its a gtk app. but i need the output please10:19
kermitgnomefreak: I also did Adept -> Manage Repositories and added a few more.. still no good results10:19
gnomefreakif you are using unofficial repos comment them out10:19
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gnomefreakkermit: including any xgl/compiz repos10:21
kermitgnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2190710:22
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gnomefreakkermit: what happens why you type sudo apt-get -f install10:24
gnomefreak!info libgtk210:25
ubotuPackage libgtk2 does not exist in any distro I know10:25
gnomefreak!info libgtk2.010:25
larson9999anyone here use the vlc flugin for firerox for watching video?10:25
ubotuPackage libgtk2.0 does not exist in any distro I know10:25
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birdfishI was wondering if anyone knew how to get a graphical desktop on a server install?10:27
gnomefreakkermit: are you sure you dont have any non-official repos in your sources.list file?10:27
larson9999!libgtk2.0-010:27
ubotulibgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2037 kB, installed size 4520 kB10:27
gnomefreakbirdfish: kde?10:27
notech!info libgtk+2.010:27
ubotuPackage libgtk2.0 does not exist in any distro I know10:27
gnomefreaklarson9999: already got it ty10:27
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gnomefreak!info libgtk2.0-010:27
ubotulibgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2037 kB, installed size 4520 kB10:27
birdfishgnomefreak: can be kde or gnome.  I would prefer gnome, but just need a gui to help me while learning to set up the server the first couple of times10:27
notechinteresting10:28
gnomefreakbirdfish: for kde sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for gnome sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:28
gnomefreakbirdfish: for xfce sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ;)10:28
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kermitgnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2190810:28
birdfishBut that installs all of the end-user apps and for a server I'd much rather not have all of the extra baggage10:28
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birdfishSomeone in the ubuntu mentioned a set of core files that would install just the core desktop, but it seems that in 6.06 it has been deprecated?10:29
gnomefreakkermit: paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list please to pastebin10:29
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gnomefreakwhile your doing that ill brb10:29
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osloanyone use quark xpress or scribus on this chan ?10:30
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kermitgnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2190910:30
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kermitgnomefreak: I really appreciate your help.. I've been useing Mandrake since v. 7.0  and like what I see in kubuntu, the first machine I installed a few days ago did not have these problems installing extra software10:32
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oslo@find wine10:32
oslosorry10:32
larson9999hmmm, i cancel service with charte about a year ago.  i moved the computer and didn't remove charter off thunderbird.  i still get email on that account.10:32
birdfishAh, nevermind, it's just been too long sinve I've used a debian based distro.  I forgot to update apt after enabling the repositories10:33
birdfish=)10:33
ndli can see both of my HDs listed on the POST (the Bios thing), however, the Master HD -- where i had WinXP installed -- cannot be seen from within Bart-PE or Konqueror... it's failing to boot. has my HD died??10:33
terry_how do i get my clock off of military time??10:33
kermitshould speedcrunch have number buttons? I was hoping it was a calulator10:34
larson9999terry_: it's easier to just join the army10:34
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gnomefreakkermit: can you run apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0  and let me know what version is installed and what the candidate version is10:35
kermitterry_: right-click the clock -> Date & Time Format10:35
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kermitgnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2191010:36
kermitgnomefreak: I'm thnking my sources are messed up10:37
gnomefreaki dont10:37
gnomefreakkermit: give me a minute im gonna see something10:37
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ndlany suggestions about how to verify if my HD is dead? the fact that Konqueror cant see of the HD's partitions freaks me out....10:38
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gnomefreakndl: are you using that hd atm?10:38
ndlright now i'm typing from another PC10:38
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gnomefreakkermit: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0 libaa1 libatk1.0-0 libgimp2.010:39
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gnomefreakkermit: pastebin any output if it doesnt work10:39
ndlthe problematic machine has 2 HD: Maxtor and WD. the Maxtor drive was the master but cant be seen from BartPE or Konqueror.... when i go into the BIOS the HD is still listed there though....10:39
gnomefreakndl: try mounting them?10:40
ndlall partitions from the second HD (WesternDigital) can be see and ccessed no prob....10:40
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gnomefreakndl: id kubuntu on first or second drive>/10:41
gnomefreak?10:41
ndlhaven tried. i thought they mounted automatically.... how to do it?10:41
ndlthe kubuntu running from a Live CD10:42
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gnomefreakndl: you havent installed it yet?10:42
ndlno. that machine was a Win machine. this machine where i am is a Win-Kubuntu one.10:43
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mister_unknownndl: try  dmesg|grep 'hd.*' to see what hdds have been recognize10:43
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gnomefreakkermit: are they installing?10:44
ndli tried to check the HD on the other machine using BartPE and the Kubuntu CD to verify what was going on on the HD....since it's not booting anymore. but Konq doesnt see the HD...10:44
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ndlmister: i'll try that.10:45
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ndlmister: it does show the Maxtor drive as hda....10:48
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Iam8up|lpycan anyone help me here? i used the adept manger to install kde-theme, and it locked up the machine at 58%10:49
ndldoes that mean the drive is still functional or that info is gotten from the BIOS?  the BIOS does list the drive...10:49
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Iam8up|lpynow every time i boot into kde, i login and get nothing more then a terminal in the corner but i do see a colored desktop10:50
Iam8up|lpyis there some sort of apt-get repair or rebuild thing?10:50
kermitgnomefreak: Package libaa1 is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:50
gnomefreakkermit: is that the only issue?10:50
mister_unknownthe hdd is recognized by the kernel. what partitions on it?10:51
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ndlwhat you mean?10:51
gnomefreakkermit: skip it if everything else installs10:51
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ndlhow many?10:51
mister_unknowndo you see a line like "hda: hda1 hda2 ...."10:51
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kermitgnomefreak: you mean is the only issue that I cannot add software? I think yes installed software seems to work fine unless speedcrunch is supposed to have buttons but is not displaying them. I have found no other problems10:51
ndli have about 4 on it...cant rem exactly. the main boot partition of the PC was on it.10:52
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kermitgnomefreak: nothing I try to install will install10:52
gnomefreakkermit: i dont know speedcrunch i have never used it10:52
kermitgnomefreak: gimme a trivial package to test install10:52
gnomefreakkermit: did you install the packages i gave you?10:52
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mister_unknownndl: have you tried to mount hda1 ?10:53
kermitthey did not install,, they complained that libaa1 was not available for install or is missing10:53
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gnomefreakkermit: kermit installing ubuntu-desktop will bring in gimp but wait on that10:53
gnomefreakkermit: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0 libatk1.0-0 libgimp2.010:53
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kermitgnomefreak: E: Package libatk1.0-0 has no installation candidate10:54
gnomefreakkermit: sudo apt-get update10:54
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gnomefreakkermit: let me know when its doen10:54
gnomefreakdone10:54
ndlmister: for this HD (hda) i have lines mentioning:10:55
kermitapt-get update is installing stuff10:55
ndl- the cilinders and sectors10:55
ndl- the name of teh drive10:55
ndl- the DMA mode that is set10:55
ndl- and a scary line saying "unknown partition table"10:55
gnomefreakkermit: let it finish and let me know if you can install gimp than10:55
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ndlmister: how to mount it? i didnt try mounting coz i thought mounting was and automaticatic process....10:55
Hemersonwhat make for get firefox for apt-get?10:56
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gnomefreakHemerson: huh10:56
Iam8up|lpyheras - sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox10:56
gnomefreakHemerson: sudo apt-get install firefox10:56
gnomefreakbut make sure you have universe enabled10:56
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kermitgnomefreak: its installing10:56
Iam8up|lpyHemerson - sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox10:56
gnomefreaki think its in uni10:56
gnomefreakkermit: good10:56
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gnomefreaki lied its in main10:57
MetaMorfoziSis there any program that shows the isntalled packages sizes10:57
MetaMorfoziSand faster than kapckage?10:57
MetaMorfoziS:D10:57
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mister_unknownndl: mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt  can do it...10:58
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rumixthere is an apt-kio-slave10:59
rumixalt-f210:59
rumix'konqueror apt:/'10:59
ndlmister: the fact that hdd (the second HD) ins shown by that command without the "unknown partition table" line is a bad sign, right?10:59
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kermitgnomefreak: wonder how my repositories got hosed?  hmm11:00
mister_unknownwithout?11:00
ndlall the info available for the main drive has an equivalent to the second HD, but the "unknown partition table" line appears as " hdd1, hdd2, hdd3" for the second HD :(11:01
gnomefreakthey didnt they just werent updated after you changed something11:01
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kermitgnomefreak: ok.. I'm also looking for an app called kruler, I think it is part of kde-addons or the like in Manriva, but cannot seem to locate it with apt on Kubuntu11:02
Dr_WillisHmm.. my dvd drive had a hard time reading this disk... tried it in another pc.. andit read it fine.. now the first pc is reading it fine..11:02
Dr_Willisperhaps dust in the drive?11:02
gnomefreakkermit: apt-cache search kruler11:02
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Iam8up|lpycan anyone tell me how start the recovery installer for kubuntu?11:03
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kermitgnomefreak: n/m it is on the search list in adept now that my sources are good.. thank you again11:04
ndlmister: explaining.... for both the main HD (hda) and the second HD (hdd) dmesg|grep returned:11:05
ndl- a line saying the cilinders and sectors info11:05
ndl- a line saying the name of the HD11:05
ndl- a line saying the DMA mode that is set for the drive11:05
ndlhowever, for hda i get this line:11:05
ndl- unknown partition table11:05
ndlthat for hdd is shown as11:05
ndl- hdd1, hdd2, hdd311:05
Dr_Willisrecovery installer ?11:06
mister_unknownmaybe your hda is byteswapped, but i dont know how to fix it on a win-hdd. sorry.11:06
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mister_unknownif you are a little familiar with fdisk, try to use it to print out the partition table. maybe you get some more info11:07
ndlthe machine was working kinda strange.... when i rebooted, the nightmare started11:07
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kermitgnomefreak: haha.. and AHA!  I thought my screen looked small, it was 1280x1024 when I had selected 1024x768 Kruler is what I was looking for11:08
ndli was planning to re-install Winblows, but since i cant even see the HD, i cant do it....11:08
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NossCireI've been trying all guides for ubuntu/kubuntu, but I cant set my screen res. right. Of some reason only 640*480 and 800*600 shows up in the list. I'm running an intel comp (oldie) with graphics in that chip. Any ideas? I've tried everything!11:14
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ubuntuHi All11:18
NossCireNevermind that question... Just figured it out myself.. I'm an idiot :)11:18
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NossCireAnyway, I have another question, wich is why i came here. If i'm currently running Ubuntu, but want to switch to kubuntu (with the kubuntu desktop and everything), is that possible? I've already installed KDE11:19
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Dr_Willis:P11:19
Dr_Willisapt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:19
Dr_Willisand ya got both11:19
NossCireI know, but everything still looks like Ubuntu...11:20
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TheGateKeeperNossCire: you have to log into kde not gnome11:20
NossCireI want the looks of kubuntu, with the menus asf11:20
Dr_Willislooks?11:20
NossCireBeen there, done that.. I get the Kubuntu login screen, but then everything looks just like ubuntu again11:21
Dr_Willisyou are being vague bout 'looks'11:21
Dr_WillisYou did select KDE from the little Menu on the Login screen?11:21
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NossCireI mean the windowslike enviorment, with the taskbar in the bottom, a "start" botton and that kind of things..11:22
NossCireI think so...11:22
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kyaneoshello11:22
Dr_Willisor somthing is really confused.11:22
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NossCireWell, guess i'll just have to check that then :)11:22
Dr_Willisright click on the panel and see what the help/about stuff says. :P11:23
kyaneosi have a problem with the lastest version of kubuntu. KDE (or de x server) goes very very slow when it wants, so it gets unuseful11:23
kyaneoscan somebody help me please?11:23
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kermitok.. firefox is installed.. how do I get it to update?11:24
rumixkyaneos: what do you mean with slow?11:24
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kermitkyaneos: I have not had this happen, it works well for me11:24
Dr_Williskermit,  ubuntu does not update things constantly like some other disrtos do..  they focus on security updates.11:25
kyaneosrumix: mouse pointer moves, but only that11:25
kyaneosthanx kermit11:25
Dr_Willisapt-get update/upgrade and it should be as up to date as its going to get.11:25
rumixstrange11:25
kyaneosrumix: i does not explain it in english11:26
Dr_Willisthat dont even sound like a DMA/Hard drive issue...11:26
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kyaneosDr_Willis: i turned hdparm off11:26
kyaneosDr_Willis: can i do something more about that?11:27
Dr_Willisif you disabled dma with hdparm, that can be causing issues11:27
kermitDr_Willis: ok.. I have been using the Firefox -> Help -> check for updates and it is gray-out on kubuntu11:27
kyaneosi am dist-upgrading to the lastest dapper packages version11:27
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Dr_Williskermit,  if you just MUST have the latest firefox.  you could use that  'klik' web site and download it  for a specfic user.11:28
kyaneosDr_Willis: now i did /etc/init.d/hdparm stop11:28
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kyaneosDr_Willis: is it enough?11:28
kermitDr_Willis: nope.. not a must have, just new to kubuntu11:29
Dr_Williskyaneos,  Why  would you even disable hdparm?11:29
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Dr_Williskermit,  yea a 'user' updateing things 'system wide' could be considered a security flaw. :P11:29
kyaneosDr_Willis: because i do not know how to configure it, and do not know if my HDs support dma11:29
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kyaneosor udma11:29
inteliwaspwhy is it every time my wireless card is inserted dmesg says wlan0: link not ready ?11:29
kyaneosDr_Willis: i am now trying to configure it11:30
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kermitlater all and thanks for all the help11:30
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inteliwaspis anyone able to answer my question?11:32
kyaneosDr_Willis: do i need enable the ROOTFS option?11:32
Dr_Williskyaneos,  if your hds are so old they dont support dma..  well.. then they are real old. :P11:33
kyaneosxD11:33
Hemersonwhat my list source-list all comment?11:33
Dr_Williswhere did ya even hear about disabling/enmabling the dma?11:33
kyaneosthree or four years11:33
Dr_Willisstart the hdparm stuff and see what defaults it sets up11:33
Mehercleis there a command to launch the default browser?11:33
larson9999hmmm reactos .3.0 finally made it11:33
Dr_Willissensible-browser11:34
Mehercledefault KDE browser11:34
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kermitgnomefreak: you mentioned kubuntu-desktop where do I find info on this?11:35
inteliwaspi thought dapper auomayicly(sp?) enabled dma?11:35
kyaneosDr_Willis: how can it disable dma out of the config file?11:36
Mehercleis there a command to launch the KDE default browser?11:36
Dr_Willishdparm has  several config files that are commented. Ive not had to ever touch them much on my systems11:37
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ravenousi have to disable dma on my cd drive or it wont boot ubuntu at all, i just run the ide=nodma flag for the kernel11:39
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inteliwaspravenous:  use this website, yes its for enableing but you can change the values  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA11:43
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ravenousim well aware, thanks though11:44
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kyaneoshow can i disable the partition cheking at boot?11:48
kermitgnomefreak: n/m found it googling11:48
kermitlater all11:48
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djguerrahola11:49
djguerrahello11:49
djguerrahallo11:49
djguerrakonnichiha11:50
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Ash-Fox!jp11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
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Ash-Foxubotu, you have failed me :(11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you have failed me :( - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
Martijn81lol, looks like qemu with edgy is going to succeed with only 256MB ram :D11:50
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Kr4t05!screenkast11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screenkast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
Kr4t05Bah11:51
Kr4t05Has anyone had any luck with screenkast?11:51
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Martijn81Kr4t05: there are some packages on the site of screenkast11:51
crrjbut Martijn81, you'll never need more than 640 k! ;D11:51
Kr4t05Martijn81: 4 realz. Cool.11:51
inteliwasphow do i disable a net device from looking for ipv6?11:52
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djguerrathere're some person who can help me with kubunto11:52
djguerraI'm new using this OS11:52
aliasfred!ask11:52
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:52
Dr_Willisand? :P11:52
Martijn81Kr4t05: you'll also need vnc server, though on xgl it gave me troubles (but that could be just me)11:52
rumixinteliwasp: create a new file called /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list11:53
Kr4t05Martijn81: Eff, I'm on XGL...11:53
Kr4t05Martijn81: I wanted to capture my own Compiz demo vid. ><11:53
rumixand insert 'alias net-pf-10 off'11:53
rumixsave and reboot11:53
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T_ServoI have a question with the install.. it never propts for setting an admin password.. is there a default one that is set or something?11:53
aliasfredhehe how to disable ipv6 on linux ? well simple simply put 'alias net-pf-10 off' in /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list :) :) how obvious is this :) :)11:54
aliasfredwe still have progress to make :)11:54
rumixehem...11:54
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Martijn81Kr4t05: hmm, not sure, i only got it view the vnc session once here, and packing the capture was a problem too...11:54
inteliwasp*newb11:54
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Kr4t05Martijn81: Why would I need vnc?11:55
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notechT_Servo: you have to create a root password after install if you want one11:55
inteliwasprumix: btw,how do i add a command during activation of a wireless card?11:55
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slougiT_Servo: there is no admin password by default, rather sudo is used. You can set a root password by runnin "sudo passwd"11:55
inteliwasprumix: btw,how do i add a command during activation of a wireless card?11:55
Martijn81Kr4t05: that's how screenkast records, in another session11:55
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slougirunning even. we be runnin in da getto YO!11:56
T_Servoahh, ok then11:56
rumixehm... dunno11:56
rumixsry..11:56
Kr4t05Bah....11:56
inteliwasp0_0  wow another screen name like mine!11:56
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Kr4t05Martijn81: Ok... Nevermind.11:56
Hawkwind_LappyT_Servo:  Ubuntu uses sudo by default.  To setup a regular root account, type: sudo passwd11:56
archangel_shalom machachoes11:56
slouginotech: you can add one to /etc/network/interfaces, using the pre-up directive11:56
T_Servook11:56
intelikeyrunning xfwm hoses my display ?11:56
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rumixcya guys11:57
slougiintelikey: define "hoses my display"11:57
T_Servowas wondering because when I go to use something that wanted "root user" it keps saying password incorrect11:57
intelikeyarchangel_ :)11:57
notechslougi: try again, i never asked anything. heh11:57
inteliwaspbrb!11:57
archangel_intelikey: whats up man11:57
slouginotech: whoops11:57
notech:)11:57
intelikeyslougi how much definition does it need.    bsod  not a lit pixel for ever.11:57
slougiah well he left11:57
T_Servook.. just to finish this install then try to get gcc and make to be nice11:58
archangel_intelikey: hey man I might need some help11:58
intelikeyarchangel_ just the xfwm4 ussue11:58
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archangel_sweet11:58
slougiintelikey: well "hose" can mean anything from random graphics corruption to launching a rocket to the moon with your monitor as payload :)11:58
T_Servovmwarer server makes this so much less painfull11:58
intelikeyslougi the latter11:58
slougiintelikey: basically your display just goes black?11:59
intelikeynot basiclly, totally.11:59
Hawkwind_LappyAnyone know of a list of scripts that can be used with konversation ?11:59
slougiweird, can you still switch to a terminal? (ie ctrl-alt-f1) do other window managers do this?12:00
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intelikeyslougi no. i repete 'not a lit pixel, for ever'12:00
intelikeyreboot is only fix.12:00
slougiright, wow.12:00
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T_ServoI take it none of the development tools are on the 6.06.1 CD?12:00
slougido you have composite enabled? what graphics card?12:00
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archangel_need some help with my display, my pc was cut offbrb, dinner time12:01
slougiT_Servo: what development tools?12:01
intelikeyslougi no composite native nv12:01
slougiintelikey: hmm, can't think of anything of the top of my head.12:02
intelikeyok.12:02
slougiintelikey: you don't happen to have another computer for debugging?12:02
intelikeyno.12:02
intelikeyslougi i could let you ssh in12:03
slougiintelikey: right, what graphics card do you have? might be that it's too new for the nv driver?12:03
intelikeyit's not new12:03
intelikeyit could be too old12:03
slougiintelikey: that's a possibility, but let's see if we can't solve it another way.12:03
T_Servoslougi: When I try something like "make" it just says command not found12:04
intelikeyriva12812:04
ravenousT_Servo: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:04
slougiintelikey: possible, afaik the nv driver is not too well maintained due to lack of docs. does the vesa driver do the same thing? have you tried the nvidia binary?12:04
intelikeyT_Servo install build-essential12:04
T_Servoahh, ok12:04
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T_Servowill try that in a bit... food calls now12:04
intelikeyslougi i'm not sure where you are headed with this.... X works fine.  even console frame buffering works fine.   what are you after ?12:05
intelikeyit's the app xfwm4  that blacks my screen  erreversably12:06
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slougiintelikey: well obviously xfwm does something that X doesn't like, and "blacking" a display should not be possible that way with the X api, especially the way even consoles are disabled.12:06
slougiintelikey: ergo, driver bug12:07
intelikeyok i see where you went now.12:07
intelikeyi'll test vesa   but it's not very likely to work...12:08
slougiwhy not?12:08
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intelikeythe riva128 don't like vesa12:08
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slougiah, ok. maybe the vga driver then?12:08
pgquilesdapper is really slow while copying files to/from my USB disk. My laptop has USB 2.0 but I think dapper is managing them as USB 1.0, how could I improve that?12:09
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intelikeywell i have to go fix a lawn mower.....  crap seems to pile up....12:10
slougiheh12:10
slougiwell, hope you can solve the issue12:10

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