| Burgundavia | crimsun: never mind. I was asking about UWN proofing, but it has already gone out | 12:20 |
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| crimsun | Burgundavia: ok | 12:21 |
| Burgundavia | maybe next time | 12:21 |
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| theCore | LaserJock: ping | 12:57 |
| LaserJock | theCore: hi | 12:59 |
| theCore | LaserJock: how the Packaging Guide is going? | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | well, I haven't really worked on it for a while | 01:01 |
| LaserJock | I plan on getting back on it shortly | 01:01 |
| LaserJock | trying to work on Feature Freeze and Universe Freeze stuff | 01:01 |
| theCore | LaserJock: I plan to do that too | 01:01 |
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| theCore | oh, when the Freezes are? I was searching for dates | 01:02 |
| theCore | LaserJock: it is a good idea to wait for the freezes, btw | 01:03 |
| Burgundavia | wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule | 01:03 |
| theCore | Burgundavia: thanks | 01:03 |
| theCore | ``Schedule as iCal'', I personally find this ironic... | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | why? | 01:08 |
| theCore | iCal is for OS X, isn't it? | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | well, but the iCal format can be read by many apps | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | and yeah, I use iCal in OS X so that's nice too ;-) | 01:10 |
| theCore | really? I didn't knew that | 01:10 |
| theCore | hehe | 01:10 |
| theCore | personally, I lost all the interest I had for OS X, for Ubuntu | 01:11 |
| trappist | I still think OS X is sexy | 01:11 |
| trappist | I get a little jealous when I see the mac guys dragging their windows around so smoothly. hopefully that'll stop when xgl/aiglx stabilizes. | 01:13 |
| theCore | trappist: good GUI is nice, but it worth nothing if you're in closed system | 01:13 |
| trappist | yeah that is a bummer | 01:13 |
| theCore | but I don't want to pullute -doc with that... | 01:13 |
| LaserJock | there is a lot of open source stuff for/on OS X | 01:15 |
| LaserJock | it could certainly be better | 01:15 |
| LaserJock | but it could also be worse | 01:15 |
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| theCore | LaserJock: and what about the file formats of their apps? | 01:19 |
| LaserJock | depends on the app | 01:19 |
| theCore | it's not what I heard, lately ... | 01:20 |
| LaserJock | huh? | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | there are many OS X apps that are opensource | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | and Apple even open sources some stuff | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | I think Apple is much closer than MS | 01:22 |
| Burgundavia | and many that are not | 01:22 |
| theCore | I meant from Apple | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | I'm decently optimistic for Apple although I haven't been around it much | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | although it is nowhere close to most Linux distros in that regard | 01:26 |
| theCore | LaserJock: http://peadrop.com/mac2ubuntu.html, this might give you an overall idea of the situation I see now | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | theCore: some good reading | 01:45 |
| theCore | LaserJock: indeed | 01:45 |
| LaserJock | however, I get to keep OS X so I'm trying to make the best of the situation, finding lots of open source software etc. | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | so besides OS X itself, I pretty much us all open source software on it | 01:50 |
| LaserJock | which is much more than I can say for Windows | 01:50 |
| theCore | LaserJock: for you it isn't a problem, because you didn't had to pay the Apple tax | 01:51 |
| LaserJock | sure | 01:52 |
| theCore | LaserJock: and you can fill Windows with open-source apps | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | I don't find much open source for Windows | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | but maybe I'm not looking hard enough | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | anyway | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | way OT and I can't really get rid of OS X anyway so no sense in me grumbling about it | 01:53 |
| theCore | like I said before, I don't want to pollute -doc with this, it isn't useful at all | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 01:54 |
| theCore | I better spend my time improving open-source apps, rather than waste everyone else by trashing other peoples apps | 01:55 |
| theCore | else time* | 01:55 |
| theCore | brb | 01:56 |
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| Burgundavia | no worries | 02:12 |
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| theCore | the funny thing is I was browsing netsplit.com when it happenned :/ | 02:31 |
| theCore | scary | 02:31 |
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| jsgotangco | god morning | 04:17 |
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| Madpilot | hi all | 06:45 |
| Burgundavia | hey Madpilot | 06:49 |
| Madpilot | hi Burgundavia | 06:49 |
| Madpilot | you free Tuesday evening? How about beer & pizza & BS somewhere - your place or downtown? | 06:50 |
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| Burgundavia | Madpilot: either. You want to do a fringe show as well? | 06:57 |
| Madpilot | is that running already? | 06:57 |
| Burgundavia | indeed | 06:57 |
| Burgundavia | already picked out what I want to see | 06:57 |
| Madpilot | what's running Tuesday night, anything interesting? | 07:01 |
| Burgundavia | just a sec | 07:03 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.intrepidtheatre.com/shows.html?venue3 <-- rebel without a niche is showing at 9:45 on tuesday | 07:04 |
| Burgundavia | alternatively, at 7:45 there is "in the packaging it came in" | 07:06 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.intrepidtheatre.com/shows.html?venue1 | 07:06 |
| Madpilot | I'm at work until 6 @ BH, making that early show would be difficult | 07:14 |
| Madpilot | the late one could be entertaining, though | 07:15 |
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| Burgundavia | sounds good | 07:19 |
| Burgundavia | why don't you come here? | 07:19 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia, sure - how good evening buses from your place? | 07:19 |
| Burgundavia | 11 goes right outside my door | 07:20 |
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| Madpilot | Burgundavia, good - see you around 6:45/7 at your place, then | 07:38 |
| Burgundavia | sounds good | 07:38 |
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| mdke_ | Seveas: around? | 08:40 |
| Seveas | yes | 08:40 |
| Seveas | WARNING 2006-08-28T20:40:26 Error connecting to | 08:40 |
| Seveas | calvino.freenode.net:6667: User timeout caused connection | 08:40 |
| Seveas | failure. | 08:40 |
| mdke_ | Seveas: I saw the bug bot doing something cool in #launchpad, announcing new bugs, is it possible to set that up here too, for distros/ubuntu/+source/(k)ubuntu-docs and products/ubuntu-doc ? | 08:41 |
| Seveas | yes | 08:41 |
| mdke_ | that would be awesome, do you need me to do anything more? | 08:41 |
| Seveas | who gets bugmail for those products? docteam? | 08:41 |
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| mdke_ | Seveas: people/ubuntu-doc, I'm fairly sure | 08:42 |
| Seveas | ok, then I'll create a 3rd account for ubugtu | 08:43 |
| mdke_ | thanks! | 08:43 |
| nixternal_ | ooh, nice one mdke! | 08:43 |
| Seveas | mdke, please accept ubugutu-docbugs as member of people/ubuntu-doc | 08:53 |
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| jjesse | nixternal_: can you resend that diff of the guide you sent me ? | 08:59 |
| nixternal_ | heh | 08:59 |
| nixternal_ | sure thing | 08:59 |
| jjesse | grin thanks | 08:59 |
| jjesse | it got lost in my spam filter for some #%%#%# reason | 08:59 |
| nixternal_ | sent | 09:00 |
| Seveas | mdke, ? | 09:01 |
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| mdke | Seveas: sure, sorry was away | 09:14 |
| mdke | Seveas: done | 09:15 |
| Seveas | ok, then let's put him to work | 09:15 |
| Seveas | @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter /home/dennis/ubugtu/data/bugmail-doc | 09:16 |
| Seveas | @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter /home/dennis/ubugtu/data/bugmail-doc | 09:16 |
| Seveas | ok, that should've done it | 09:16 |
| mdke | I'll file a bug | 09:17 |
| mdke | o.o | 09:19 |
| mdke | oh, there is a delay in email | 09:19 |
| Seveas | it takes some time | 09:19 |
| Seveas | 5 minute launchpad delay | 09:19 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #58027 in ubuntu-doc "Ubuntu documentation is too good, and the docteam are too cool" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58027 | 09:25 |
| mdke | yay | 09:25 |
| mdke | thanks Seveas | 09:25 |
| jjesse | confirm that bug :) | 09:25 |
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| === jjesse cheers Seveas | ||
| nixternal | haha, i just noticed the email for that bug...i was like mdke got a hold of some toxic fumes and logged onto the LP..then i realized, ahhh he is testing the bot ;) | 09:38 |
| nixternal | i can confirm that bug btw, but just to let you know, it would be impossible to patch jjesse right now, so send it upstream | 09:39 |
| nixternal | ;) | 09:39 |
| jjesse | ;) | 10:04 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 10:05 |
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| nixternal | jjesse: i sent you a new patch...it validates here fine..and it is to kubuntu/switching/C/intro.xml | 10:15 |
| nixternal | don't know why you would have had issues with the last one though...also this patch is just to show you really what i have done with the intro.xml and the idea i have with it..it still needs a lot of work and i am continuing to do more to it here today as well | 10:16 |
| jjesse | cool | 10:25 |
| nixternal | did that work for you? | 10:33 |
| jjesse | yes it did | 10:33 |
| jjesse | sorry slow at work | 10:33 |
| nixternal | hehe | 10:33 |
| jjesse | dang only got a couple of weeks left to doc string freeze | 10:34 |
| jjesse | gotta get working :( | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | when is it? | 10:34 |
| mdke | yes | 10:34 |
| nixternal | thats fine...i really created the patch jsut so you can see the idea behind the intro..there was talk the other night about creating a generic introl that contains all of the history and support stuff...so, don't know when that will happen though | 10:34 |
| jjesse | sept. 14th | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | what? | 10:34 |
| nixternal | heh | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | darn it | 10:34 |
| nixternal | go go go | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | I thought it was *after* Univerrse Freeze | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | grrrr | 10:35 |
| jjesse | just found out they want to do an edgy version of the book as well | 10:35 |
| nixternal | jjesse: please tell me that the SFW doesn't have to be done by the freeze | 10:35 |
| jjesse | gotta get cracking on that as well :( | 10:35 |
| jjesse | nixternal: i would love it to be, but i think it will be in edgy +1 the way things are going :( | 10:35 |
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| nixternal | whew, ya, because we need to finish up on some of the current kubuntu docs for edgy | 10:35 |
| jjesse | destkop guide and release notes | 10:35 |
| nixternal | i have started the "release notes", | 10:36 |
| jjesse | i noticed | 10:36 |
| nixternal | so i can continue on that if everythign is ok | 10:36 |
| jjesse | need to update adept guide and fianlly get that published to kde's svn | 10:36 |
| mdke | yeah, I don't think SFW is going to make it for Edgy | 10:36 |
| nixternal | desktop guide, last i heard robotgeek was trying to split up some work with me, and i haven't heard from him since | 10:36 |
| jjesse | mdke: agreed unforntaly | 10:36 |
| nixternal | is there a way to apply or force the apply of a patch that was created in an older revision? | 10:38 |
| mdke | nixternal: no idea | 10:41 |
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| nixternal | i cheated..i replaced the (revision ####) with the new revision in the patch..and it worked ;) | 10:41 |
| nixternal | jjesse: what are we to do about the desktop guide? i don't want to step on robotgeek's toes, however we need to get going on it, with the freeze 2 weeks away pretty much | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | mdke: really :/ | 10:44 |
| Burgwork | doc freeze is two weeks away? | 10:44 |
| Burgwork | ugh | 10:44 |
| nixternal | sept. 14th | 10:45 |
| nixternal | 16 days | 10:45 |
| mdke | LaserJock: really which? | 10:45 |
| nixternal | or less depending on where in the world you are | 10:45 |
| LaserJock | mdke: wrt, linux-basics being out of place | 10:45 |
| mdke | LaserJock: yeah, it feels really bad in the new-look desktop guide | 10:47 |
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| mhz | mdke: hi there | 10:56 |
| mhz | i am not sure if i asked you this before but...when could we have a newer moin system instead of 1.3.5? | 10:56 |
| mdke | mhz: the webmaster is working on it (and yes, of course you've asked me before :) | 10:58 |
| mdke | LaserJock: ah, moving the chapter earlier makes it look better. If you have any feedback on the layout of the new DG, i'd appreciate it (just committed) | 10:59 |
| mhz | mdke: hehe, sorry, but any ideas about 'when' we could have that? | 10:59 |
| mhz | mdke: also, is there any procedure to ask for Macro and/or Plugin installations? | 11:00 |
| mdke | mhz: nope | 11:00 |
| mdke | mhz: yes, file a bug on ubuntu-website | 11:00 |
| mhz | oh, i see | 11:00 |
| mhz | thx, as usual | 11:00 |
| mdke | np, 1.5 is overdue already | 11:01 |
| mhz | yeah, 1.6 will rule | 11:09 |
| mhz | esp. with syncing pages and email support | 11:10 |
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