[12:20] crimsun: never mind. I was asking about UWN proofing, but it has already gone out [12:21] Burgundavia: ok [12:21] maybe next time === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:57] LaserJock: ping [12:59] theCore: hi [01:00] LaserJock: how the Packaging Guide is going? [01:01] well, I haven't really worked on it for a while [01:01] I plan on getting back on it shortly [01:01] trying to work on Feature Freeze and Universe Freeze stuff [01:01] LaserJock: I plan to do that too === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:02] oh, when the Freezes are? I was searching for dates [01:03] LaserJock: it is a good idea to wait for the freezes, btw [01:03] wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule [01:03] Burgundavia: thanks [01:08] ``Schedule as iCal'', I personally find this ironic... [01:08] why? [01:09] iCal is for OS X, isn't it? [01:09] well, but the iCal format can be read by many apps [01:10] and yeah, I use iCal in OS X so that's nice too ;-) [01:10] really? I didn't knew that [01:10] hehe [01:11] personally, I lost all the interest I had for OS X, for Ubuntu [01:11] I still think OS X is sexy [01:13] I get a little jealous when I see the mac guys dragging their windows around so smoothly. hopefully that'll stop when xgl/aiglx stabilizes. [01:13] trappist: good GUI is nice, but it worth nothing if you're in closed system [01:13] yeah that is a bummer [01:13] but I don't want to pullute -doc with that... [01:15] there is a lot of open source stuff for/on OS X [01:15] it could certainly be better [01:15] but it could also be worse === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:19] LaserJock: and what about the file formats of their apps? [01:19] depends on the app [01:20] it's not what I heard, lately ... [01:21] huh? [01:21] there are many OS X apps that are opensource [01:22] and Apple even open sources some stuff [01:22] I think Apple is much closer than MS [01:22] and many that are not [01:22] I meant from Apple [01:23] I'm decently optimistic for Apple although I haven't been around it much [01:26] although it is nowhere close to most Linux distros in that regard [01:39] LaserJock: http://peadrop.com/mac2ubuntu.html, this might give you an overall idea of the situation I see now [01:45] theCore: some good reading [01:45] LaserJock: indeed [01:49] however, I get to keep OS X so I'm trying to make the best of the situation, finding lots of open source software etc. [01:50] so besides OS X itself, I pretty much us all open source software on it [01:50] which is much more than I can say for Windows [01:51] LaserJock: for you it isn't a problem, because you didn't had to pay the Apple tax [01:52] sure [01:52] LaserJock: and you can fill Windows with open-source apps [01:52] I don't find much open source for Windows [01:52] but maybe I'm not looking hard enough [01:52] anyway [01:53] way OT and I can't really get rid of OS X anyway so no sense in me grumbling about it [01:53] like I said before, I don't want to pollute -doc with this, it isn't useful at all [01:54] :-) [01:55] I better spend my time improving open-source apps, rather than waste everyone else by trashing other peoples apps [01:55] else time* [01:56] brb === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === osg [n=Open@chef.nerp.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Plug [n=crb@203-167-190-117.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mvirkkil [n=mvirkkil@kosh.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #ubuntu-doc === HighBit [n=eqhmcow@redpine.canadian.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === [Utah] tristanbob [i=tristanb@137.190.3.107] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@85-210-150-19.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ..[topic/#ubuntu-doc:irc.freenode.net] : Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | Ubuntu's docs in dead-tree format: http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc [02:12] no worries === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === n1c0las [n=nicolas@nicolas.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:31] the funny thing is I was browsing netsplit.com when it happenned :/ [02:31] scary === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Konversation] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203-167-187-81.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:17] god morning === theCore_ [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-167-187-20.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:45] hi all [06:49] hey Madpilot [06:49] hi Burgundavia [06:50] you free Tuesday evening? How about beer & pizza & BS somewhere - your place or downtown? === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-167-187-20.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-167-187-20.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:57] Madpilot: either. You want to do a fringe show as well? [06:57] is that running already? [06:57] indeed [06:57] already picked out what I want to see [07:01] what's running Tuesday night, anything interesting? [07:03] just a sec [07:04] http://www.intrepidtheatre.com/shows.html?venue3 <-- rebel without a niche is showing at 9:45 on tuesday [07:06] alternatively, at 7:45 there is "in the packaging it came in" [07:06] http://www.intrepidtheatre.com/shows.html?venue1 [07:14] I'm at work until 6 @ BH, making that early show would be difficult [07:15] the late one could be entertaining, though === mpt [n=mpt@203-167-187-20.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:19] sounds good [07:19] why don't you come here? [07:19] Burgundavia, sure - how good evening buses from your place? 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[08:40] yes [08:40] WARNING 2006-08-28T20:40:26 Error connecting to [08:40] calvino.freenode.net:6667: User timeout caused connection [08:40] failure. [08:41] Seveas: I saw the bug bot doing something cool in #launchpad, announcing new bugs, is it possible to set that up here too, for distros/ubuntu/+source/(k)ubuntu-docs and products/ubuntu-doc ? [08:41] yes [08:41] that would be awesome, do you need me to do anything more? [08:41] who gets bugmail for those products? docteam? === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:42] Seveas: people/ubuntu-doc, I'm fairly sure [08:43] ok, then I'll create a 3rd account for ubugtu [08:43] thanks! [08:43] ooh, nice one mdke! [08:53] mdke, please accept ubugutu-docbugs as member of people/ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:59] nixternal_: can you resend that diff of the guide you sent me ? [08:59] heh [08:59] sure thing [08:59] grin thanks [08:59] it got lost in my spam filter for some #%%#%# reason [09:00] sent [09:01] mdke, ? === rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:14] Seveas: sure, sorry was away [09:15] Seveas: done [09:15] ok, then let's put him to work [09:16] @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter /home/dennis/ubugtu/data/bugmail-doc [09:16] @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter /home/dennis/ubugtu/data/bugmail-doc [09:16] ok, that should've done it [09:17] I'll file a bug [09:19] o.o [09:19] oh, there is a delay in email [09:19] it takes some time [09:19] 5 minute launchpad delay [09:25] New bug: #58027 in ubuntu-doc "Ubuntu documentation is too good, and the docteam are too cool" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58027 [09:25] yay [09:25] thanks Seveas [09:25] confirm that bug :) === Burgwork hugs mdke === jjesse cheers Seveas [09:38] haha, i just noticed the email for that bug...i was like mdke got a hold of some toxic fumes and logged onto the LP..then i realized, ahhh he is testing the bot ;) [09:39] i can confirm that bug btw, but just to let you know, it would be impossible to patch jjesse right now, so send it upstream [09:39] ;) [10:04] ;) [10:05] hehe === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-3-190.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:15] jjesse: i sent you a new patch...it validates here fine..and it is to kubuntu/switching/C/intro.xml [10:16] don't know why you would have had issues with the last one though...also this patch is just to show you really what i have done with the intro.xml and the idea i have with it..it still needs a lot of work and i am continuing to do more to it here today as well [10:25] cool [10:33] did that work for you? [10:33] yes it did [10:33] sorry slow at work [10:33] hehe [10:34] dang only got a couple of weeks left to doc string freeze [10:34] gotta get working :( [10:34] when is it? [10:34] yes [10:34] thats fine...i really created the patch jsut so you can see the idea behind the intro..there was talk the other night about creating a generic introl that contains all of the history and support stuff...so, don't know when that will happen though [10:34] sept. 14th [10:34] what? [10:34] heh [10:34] darn it [10:34] go go go [10:34] I thought it was *after* Univerrse Freeze [10:35] grrrr [10:35] just found out they want to do an edgy version of the book as well [10:35] jjesse: please tell me that the SFW doesn't have to be done by the freeze [10:35] gotta get cracking on that as well :( [10:35] nixternal: i would love it to be, but i think it will be in edgy +1 the way things are going :( === keith [n=Kevin@keithsudbury.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:35] whew, ya, because we need to finish up on some of the current kubuntu docs for edgy [10:35] destkop guide and release notes [10:36] i have started the "release notes", [10:36] i noticed [10:36] so i can continue on that if everythign is ok [10:36] need to update adept guide and fianlly get that published to kde's svn [10:36] yeah, I don't think SFW is going to make it for Edgy [10:36] desktop guide, last i heard robotgeek was trying to split up some work with me, and i haven't heard from him since [10:36] mdke: agreed unforntaly [10:38] is there a way to apply or force the apply of a patch that was created in an older revision? [10:41] nixternal: no idea === mdke can't figure out how to deal with the linux-basics section in the desktop guide, it feel so out of place [10:41] i cheated..i replaced the (revision ####) with the new revision in the patch..and it worked ;) [10:43] jjesse: what are we to do about the desktop guide? i don't want to step on robotgeek's toes, however we need to get going on it, with the freeze 2 weeks away pretty much [10:44] mdke: really :/ [10:44] doc freeze is two weeks away? [10:44] ugh [10:45] sept. 14th [10:45] 16 days [10:45] LaserJock: really which? [10:45] or less depending on where in the world you are [10:45] mdke: wrt, linux-basics being out of place [10:47] LaserJock: yeah, it feels really bad in the new-look desktop guide === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-82-186.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [10:56] mdke: hi there [10:56] i am not sure if i asked you this before but...when could we have a newer moin system instead of 1.3.5? [10:58] mhz: the webmaster is working on it (and yes, of course you've asked me before :) [10:59] LaserJock: ah, moving the chapter earlier makes it look better. If you have any feedback on the layout of the new DG, i'd appreciate it (just committed) [10:59] mdke: hehe, sorry, but any ideas about 'when' we could have that? [11:00] mdke: also, is there any procedure to ask for Macro and/or Plugin installations? [11:00] mhz: nope [11:00] mhz: yes, file a bug on ubuntu-website [11:00] oh, i see [11:00] thx, as usual [11:01] np, 1.5 is overdue already [11:09] yeah, 1.6 will rule [11:10] esp. with syncing pages and email support === poningru_ [n=poningru@n128-227-82-186.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz_off [n=mhz@143-24-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"]