| LaserJock | no, what do you think the memory usage would be if it was written in C/C++? | 12:08 |
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| hub | lower | 12:09 |
| hub | clearly | 12:09 |
| hub | and more controlable too | 12:09 |
| LaserJock | ok, but how much lower, ball park? | 12:09 |
| Riddell | I don't doubt hub | 12:12 |
| TheMuso | c | 12:13 |
| LaserJock | well, I don't know C or C++. All I know is Python and Fortran and I'm *not* going to subject people to my fortran code | 12:14 |
| ryanakca | lol | 12:14 |
| === ryanakca knows a bit of C... but since kde is mainly written in cpp, I've switched to learning cpp... | ||
| LaserJock | I would just use pygtk or pyqt I guess, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try to learn a bit of C and C++ | 12:16 |
| hub | ryanakca: well C++ is a superset of C | 12:16 |
| hub | so it is likely you know on you know the other, more or less | 12:17 |
| ryanakca | yeah, but isn't there a pile of stuff you learn in C that you'll never use in cpp? | 12:17 |
| Riddell | much more the other way around | 12:17 |
| ryanakca | oh | 12:18 |
| === ryanakca guesses that's why C looks simpler that cpp | ||
| Burgundavia | gnomefreak: totem plugins (the mozilla one) is part of the totem package and thus core-dev. Gstreamer plugins are either, depending on section | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | k | 12:19 |
| hub | Burgundavia: the totem firefox is IMHO not part of the totem source package | 12:20 |
| Burgundavia | hub: totem-mozilla is very much so | 12:20 |
| Burgundavia | the totem-firefox-xine and -gstreamer has been dropped in favour of -mozilla | 12:21 |
| hub | well I checked dapper | 12:21 |
| hub | I don't run edgy yet | 12:21 |
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| Burgundavia | it may been split for dapper because we didn't ship the plugin | 12:21 |
| ryanakca | example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B#Hello_world_program (cpp) vs http://pastebin.ca/151281 (C) | 12:22 |
| hub | Burgundavia: only binary packages are split AFAIK | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: as opposed to http://pastebin.ca/151289 ;-) | 12:26 |
| ryanakca | lol | 12:27 |
| ryanakca | python :) | 12:27 |
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| hub | btw, how to I submit a package for the backports | 12:31 |
| === shawarma joining the game, introducing new rule. | ||
| shawarma | Hi, guys. | 12:36 |
| LaserJock | nooooooo | 12:38 |
| === LaserJock runs | ||
| shawarma | talking and running! two penalty cards! | 12:39 |
| === shawarma thinks to himself whether it would be a good idea to call a permanent point of order.. | ||
| crimsun | hub: file a bug against the source package and subscribe ubuntu-backporters. Please attach build log and debian/changelog . | 12:39 |
| === shawarma also wonders how many people have any idea what this is all about.. | ||
| === LaserJock takes 2 penalty cards | ||
| shawarma | You also have to sponsor an upload for me now. | 12:41 |
| shawarma | my rule. | 12:41 |
| shawarma | http://www.linux2go.dk/edgy-merges/asterisk-merge.diff | 12:41 |
| === LaserJock grimaces | ||
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| welshbyte | hey again | 12:44 |
| Riddell | hub: test it compiles on dapper, report a bug on backports | 12:44 |
| Riddell | hub: https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bugs | 12:44 |
| bddebian | wb welshbyte | 12:48 |
| welshbyte | ty bddebian | 12:48 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 12:50 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 12:52 |
| welshbyte | hi LaserJock | 12:53 |
| === welshbyte votes for his favourites in gnome-games | ||
| gnomefreak | Riddell: is 3.5.5 ready for testing on edgy yet? (been away for a few weeks) | 12:55 |
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| Shadowpillar | how do you calculate dependencies for a package when building a control file? | 01:00 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: it's not being released until october | 01:08 |
| shawarma | Shadowpillar: You start out with nothing, compile, and add what it seems to be missing. Repeat until it builds properly. | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | well, you can first look at INSTALL, README, and/or the app's website | 01:09 |
| crimsun | Shadowpillar: do you mean [runtime] dependencies or [compile-time] build-dependencies | 01:09 |
| Shadowpillar | both | 01:10 |
| geser | hello | 01:12 |
| crimsun | Shadowpillar: assuming proper dh_*shlib*(1) usage in debian/rules , then you just need to take care of the build-dependencies. LaserJock described one approach. | 01:12 |
| geser | what is the correct syntax for changelog to mark a bux as fixed? | 01:12 |
| crimsun | geser: Closes Ubuntu: #some_bug_number | 01:12 |
| crimsun | (or provide the short form of the LP URL) | 01:13 |
| crimsun | there's no canonical syntax yet | 01:13 |
| Shadowpillar | I wanna build a xawtv package for 64 bit that has pvr functions | 01:15 |
| Shadowpillar | because mythtv is not acceptable. | 01:15 |
| Shadowpillar | vlc has pvr functions, but they're very crude | 01:15 |
| Shadowpillar | well I plan on making it for 32 bit as well ;X | 01:16 |
| bddebian | Hmm, what to do tonight | 01:17 |
| crimsun | Shadowpillar: so you plan to extend the features offered in the current xawtv packages? | 01:19 |
| Shadowpillar | with the experimental cvs version | 01:20 |
| welshbyte | bddebian: wxmaxima? :) | 01:20 |
| Shadowpillar | which has IVTV support and dvd support and gtk2 support | 01:20 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: I'd like to but I think it's over my head :'-( | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: did you every try the Debian (wx)maxima package? | 01:24 |
| === bddebian frickin' hates being stupid | ||
| LaserJock | me too | 01:25 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Did you see my comment to the bug? Attaching gdb to an unstripped binary of maxima works as expected :-( | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | shawarma: shesh, asterisk takes a while to compile | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | I just don't get it | 01:25 |
| welshbyte | i hate heisenbugs | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | at one point I downloaded the Debian unstable package and compiled it and it worked fine | 01:25 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: In Dapper? | 01:27 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | I think that was right at the dapper release, maybe a little before | 01:28 |
| bddebian | Ah | 01:28 |
| welshbyte | was it a full moon? could be a were-bug :/ | 01:29 |
| bddebian | heh | 01:29 |
| LaserJock | well, the bug happens too much | 01:32 |
| LaserJock | for it to be a were-bug | 01:32 |
| bddebian | Aye | 01:33 |
| bddebian | It's definetly there in the existing packages | 01:33 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | but when I don't think it exists in debian, that's what is bugging me | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | s/when/then/ | 01:36 |
| bddebian | Well Lord only knows what it was built against for Dapper | 01:37 |
| bddebian | I wonder if it's not a gtk issue | 01:37 |
| hub | so gcc4.1 use way more memory than gcc 4.0 | 01:39 |
| hub | edgy vs dapper | 01:39 |
| hub | I can compile hugin on dapper, now | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | shawarma: ping? | 01:40 |
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| scundi | hello, i'm trying to recover my password on revu but i don't get any text to paste in | 01:54 |
| scundi | i did it once before a few months back, it worked back then | 01:54 |
| shawarma | LaserJock: pong | 01:54 |
| LaserJock | shawarma: ah yes, I was just going to say that I'm uploading your asterisk merge | 01:55 |
| shawarma | LaserJock: Cool. Thank you. | 01:55 |
| bddebian | scundi: Known issue with REVU currently I think | 01:56 |
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| scundi | cheers bddebian | 01:57 |
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