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inteliwaspfinaly my laptop has wireless, 1 down 1 more to go   WOOT12:11
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lascari have an emergency: I may have fucked up my distro when i tried to install those damned nvidia drivers for linux12:15
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A|i3Nhey how hard is it to start a webserver on kubuntu? And which one do ya'll reccomend for the novice user? is Apache good?12:16
slougiinstall apache2, it will start automatically12:16
slougiyou can then replace the standard start page etc. with your own stuff12:16
A|i3NDo I have to mess witha buncha security settings for my system, Slougi? In order for people to access the page12:17
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slougino, just install apache212:17
A|i3NCool, thanks :)12:17
A|i3NI'll play with it. hehe12:17
slougiopen a port in the firewall if you have one12:17
draikslougi, is the setup hard for apache2?12:17
slougiapart from that, not that i know of12:17
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slougidraik: apt-get install apache212:17
slouginot much more12:17
A|i3NI don't know if I do or not - this is a stock kubuntu setup offa the latest cd12:17
slougiof course customization takes some effort, but it is not TOO hard12:18
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slougiA|i3N: well, just try installing apache2 and then accessing it with e.g. firefox: http://localhost12:18
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A|i3Nyea I'm pretty experienced with computers, just new to linux. I'm a computer tech but mostly for windows12:18
slougiif it works, cool, if not, ask again :)12:18
slougiok cool12:19
A|i3N.. so the setup shouldn't be a problem for me12:19
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lascarI just installed a new video card and made an attempt to install the video drivers from the nvidia website.  The attempt failed because X was then running.  So I disable X and try again.  This next attempt failed as well because the installer could not detect my kernel version.  The wizard attempted to find an identifying one via the Internet, but that failed (surprise!).  So at this point, I'm like "fuck it, I'm gonna reboot."  Doing that12:22
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urantherif i have kubuntu already installed on one HDD, can I install windows on another HDD and set it as slave or something and automatically be able to dual boot using kubuntu's boot loader?12:23
slougilascar: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:23
lascaralready installed12:23
slougilascar: you don't need to install the drivers again then, just run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:24
lascarslougi: I've even reconfigured the xorg.conf file.  Now linux notices the new card, but everything else is still fucked up12:24
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lascarslougi: did that too12:24
slougiwhat do you mean everything else is still fucked up?12:24
A|i3Nok so... i installed apache2... supposedly it's running ..... ? how do I get to it, just type apache2?12:24
lascarslougi: wi-fi, can't play games; it's like there's no 3d acceleration12:24
slougiuranther: you can install winxp on the other drive, but it will overwrite grub, so you need to reinstall it12:25
draikslougi, lascar, I suggest not swearing so that you don't get kicked for it12:25
slougiA|i3N: "get to it"?12:25
urantherhow would it overwrite grub? even if i had the other hdd detached when installing?12:25
lascardraik: will do, sorry12:25
A|i3NHow do I access the program to set it up lol12:25
draikthx12:25
slougiA|i3N: apache2 is set up using conf files ;) there is no graphical configuration utility12:25
A|i3Noh an.. what's a good graphical web editor for kubuntu? Is Mozilla composer pretty good?12:26
A|i3Noh.. lol12:26
A|i3Nthen, where do I find the conf files? lol12:26
uranthercomposer sucks from what i remember12:26
T_Servojust use emacs ;)12:26
Dr_Willisnvu - is a html editor12:27
Martijn81lascar: have your tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?12:27
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slougiA|i3N: they're in /etc/apache2 iirc, the default web root is /var/www/apache2-default/12:27
urantherslougi: what if i have my kubuntu hdd detached?12:27
lascarMartijn81: yep, that's what got kubuntu noticing the new card in the conf file12:27
A|i3Nok cool thank you i guess i need to know this stuff.. is there perhaps an apache front end available?12:27
Martijn81ah ok12:27
slougiuranther: it will install fine then, but grub won't pick up windows automatically12:28
urantherslougi: do i have to tell grub to look for it?12:28
Dr_Willisbut thats easy to fix. :P12:28
slougiA|i3N: as I said, you'll have to edit conf files :)12:28
A|i3Nlol12:28
A|i3Ndamn. hehe12:28
Dr_Willistheres a example windows grub entry at the start of the menu.lst file. i just uncomment it.12:28
Dr_Willisthat way windows is at top.12:28
slougiuranther: I am not quite certain, maybe reinstalling grub looks for it automatically, if not then yes, but it is not too hard12:28
A|i3NI'm guessing I edit apache2.cfg12:29
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A|i3Ner .conf12:29
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lascarand under the "Devices" section, I've got to keep the value on "nv."  When I change it to "nvidia," the x-server dies12:29
slougiA|i3N: I'd suggest looking at some documentation, google will find lots12:30
nonicknameis xorg release 70,000,000 version 11.0 X11R7.0 or X11R7.1?12:30
slouginonickname: 7.012:30
slougilascar: well, that would be the answer why you have no 3d accel12:30
nonicknamefigures.. is there a way i can grab a package for 7.1?12:30
T_ServoA|i3N: If you have never looked at the apache setup before.. do what they say and read up first... by default you shouldn;t really have to edit anything12:31
lascarslougi: ok, what now?12:31
Martijn81lascar: assuming you already have reloaded X, i don't know, sry12:31
lascarMartijn81: ok, thanx anyway12:31
slougilascar: ok do this... change it to nvidia, try launching X. it will write a log file to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Back that file up, change the driver back to nv, and post the log file at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:32
slougimeanwhile I'll have a smoke so hold on a minute...12:33
doppelganger__hey guys, would it be feasible to change my kubuntu version to ubuntu and not screw much up?12:34
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doppelganger__because i see how many KDE-centric programs are loaded with kubuntu...  i'm just wondering how hard it would be12:34
A|i3Nit looks as if my root directory is /var/www/12:34
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nonicknameguess i'll try my hand at building it...12:35
Dr_WillisI just mix and match the kde and gnome stuff... too many good apps to worry about. ;P12:35
A|i3Nbecause when i go to localhost it comes up with a directory listing, the only thing that's there is /apache2-default/12:35
Hawkwinddoppelganger__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:35
Hawkwinddoppelganger__: Then you can use Gnome all you want12:35
doppelganger__and XGL won't get confused, right?12:35
nonicknamedid you guys miss my question or was it just stupid?12:35
HawkwindNo idea.  I don't use beta software like that.  Ask in #Ubuntu-XGL12:35
Dr_WillisI missed your stupid question... ( Just kidding)12:36
Dr_Willis:P12:36
doppelganger__i just won't wanna hose this box too bad, i've spent a while setting it up12:36
nonicknamelol12:36
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nonicknamei want X11R7.112:36
Dr_WillisIck!12:36
Dr_Willis:)12:36
nonicknamei'm trying to get by a problem with the xorg server12:36
HawkwindThen run Edgy if you want 7.112:36
slougiA|i3N: ah true, i just quickly installed apache2 here and took a look, so yes it's /var/www12:36
nonicknameor something..12:36
nonicknameis there a way i can update my current install to it?12:37
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SpAwN!iso12:37
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows12:37
A|i3Nslougi: what's funny is the HTML files are in /apache2-default/12:37
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InuDuelistHm. I spent 48 hours on Linux, without once going back onto Windows. I'm making progress. :P12:38
Hawkwindnonickname: If you want 7.1 you'd have to run Edgy12:38
A|i3Nnow to figure out how to tell this router which computer to route incoming port 80 to :)12:38
nonicknameHwakwind: meaning i need to reinstall kubuntu?12:38
A|i3Nwhich should be quite easy.12:38
nonicknameHawkwind*12:39
Dr_WillisInuDuelist,  But you just Impled that you WENT back! Egads!12:39
Dr_Willis:P12:39
Dr_Willis!upgrade12:39
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.12:39
lascarok, brb12:39
slougiA|i3N: I guess the packages move them out of the way by default12:39
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Dr_WillisNo edgy url yet.  heh12:40
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InuDuelistHm...12:40
InuDuelistnonickname: What IRC client are you using?12:40
nonicknamekonversation.12:40
InuDuelistGreat.12:40
Hawkwindnonickname: If you really want to run beta software and a beta OS, then yes12:40
InuDuelistYou don't have to write everyone's name out completely.12:40
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InuDuelistKonversation has Tab Completion.12:41
nonicknameahh12:41
nonicknameInuDuelist: thanks :D12:41
InuDuelistSure.12:41
nonicknamei just want wine to work with mame32k, to be honest12:41
slouginonickname: no you don't need to reinstall, you can upgrade to edgy using apt12:41
Dr_Willisick... why12:41
nonicknameahh12:41
Dr_Willismame works very well under Linux. :)12:41
nonicknamenot mame32k =(12:41
Dr_Willisadvancemame is nicer in some ways12:41
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Dr_Willisbetter then mame32 even12:42
Dr_Willisand theres other mame front ends12:42
nonicknamenoo12:42
nonicknamemame32'k'12:42
Dr_Williswhats so K about it. :P12:42
slougikaillera?12:42
nonicknameit has a kaillera dll :p12:42
ravenouskxmame!12:42
nonicknamelol12:42
Dr_WillisSo you can play PacMan online... Wow...12:42
Dr_Willis:)12:43
nonickname:D12:43
nonicknameactually, i'm more of a mvsc guy12:43
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Dr_Willis:)12:43
Dr_Willis'yes i mame, do you?'12:43
nonicknameX_CreatePixmap fails if i run mame32k =(12:43
nonicknamesupposedly, the problem is related to x.org12:44
archangel_sup folks12:44
A|i3Nhey refresh my memory guys.. if I have a DSL Modem going into a wireless router, it's the wireless router I need to access to change port forwarding, right?12:44
Dr_WillisMame32 v0.67 (0414)+Kaillera client v0.9 (2.9Mb).12:44
archangel_need some help on my display12:44
Dr_WillisHmm.. what version of mame32k ya got?12:44
nonickname.6412:44
nonicknameit's the standard12:44
nonicknamewww.anti3d.com has a copy12:45
Dr_WillisI though make was up to like 1.0.4 by now.12:45
nonicknameheh, nobody bothered to update 32k past .67, and no one uses that12:46
nonickname.64 is the standard12:46
Dr_WillisIck. :P12:46
nonicknamelol12:46
Dr_Williswell i was going to try it.. but aint going to bother now. :P12:46
Dr_Willisgood luck12:46
nonicknamewhy not?12:46
Dr_Willisand i dont play the 'fighting games' either. :)12:46
nonicknamehehe12:46
archangel_my mom is here visiting and thought my pc was off and hit the power button, and now it comes up in 640x48012:46
Dr_WillisMortalCOmbat = ick.12:47
Dr_Willis:P12:47
nonicknamelol12:47
nonicknameno mk12:47
Dr_Willisklax = da bomb.12:47
archangel_and now its the only option in display12:47
nonicknamestreet fighter alpha 3, marvel vs capcom, samurai shodown 5, i think?12:47
Dr_WillisMr Do! ownz you.12:47
nonicknamelol12:47
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nonicknamei wasn't around for all of the old school ones12:47
Dr_Willisold-skool-fool.12:47
Martijn81Ali3N: yes (assuming the router actually is set to function as router and not downgraded in options to bridged)12:47
Dr_WillisI rember when they were NEW in the arcades12:48
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HawkwindLOL @ Mr. Do12:48
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nonicknamei HAD two atari's12:48
nonicknamei don't know which numbers they had on em12:48
pgquilesafter upgrading kubuntu from breezy to dapper, it no longer starts KDE (although default init level is 5 in /etc/inittab). What can I do?12:48
archangel_coleco - q-bert  rocked!!12:48
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nonicknameanyhow12:49
HawkwindHah!  I have Q-bert as well in my collection of about 50 Coleco games12:49
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archangel_sweet12:49
nonicknameslougi: how would i go about updating to edgy using apt-get?12:49
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archangel_I wish they would make it as a linux game12:49
slouginonickname: well, first off, be warned it is under pretty heavy development ;)12:49
nonicknamei'll survive.12:50
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nonicknamei just installed the os a few days ago12:50
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slouginonickname: basically, just switch all mentions of dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list12:50
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nonickname:D thanks, slougi12:50
slouginonickname: if you have external repos, those might not have an edgy version yet12:50
slouginonickname: after that, sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade12:50
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archangel_need some display help12:51
lascarslougi: it's up12:51
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slouginonickname: using aptitude instead of apt-get is preferred since it has better dependency resolution12:51
slougilascar: link?12:51
nonicknameahh12:51
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lascarshougi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d2192112:52
slougilascar: hmm, try "sudo modprobe nvidia"12:52
archangel_my mom is here visiting and thought my pc was off and hit the power button, and now it comes up in 640x48012:52
lascarshougi: anything else?  I'd like to minimize the number of reboots, if possible12:53
slougilascar: if it doesn't barf, try setting the driver to nvidia and restarting X12:53
slougiyou don't need to reboot :) just do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart to restart X12:53
lascarshougi: my internet connection is down in kubuntu because of all of this.  I'm using XP for emergency purposes.12:54
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lascarbrb12:54
A|i3Nslougi: can you go to my IP with yer browser an see if you get my default directory? I needa see if I set up port forwarding right.12:55
A|i3N69.220.224.812:55
slougiah, well the problem is that it is not finding the nvidia kernel module for some reason. this might be because your card is not automatically recognized for some reason, or you don't have the driver installed. make sure you have linux-restricted-modules installed12:55
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slougiA|i3N: Index of /: apache2-default/12:56
slougi;)12:56
A|i3Ncool thanks12:56
A|i3Nhehe12:56
slougino problem12:56
A|i3Nnow - where would I go to set up my system for static IP so I always have the port forwarding forwarding to the right computer?12:56
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A|i3Nit's on DHCP now12:56
nonicknamehere we go :o12:57
slougiA|i3N: well, depends on how you're connected to the net12:57
slougiA|i3N: do you mean a static IP on your LAN or the net at large?12:57
A|i3NLinksys Wireless-B router12:57
A|i3Non my LAN12:57
A|i3NI'm hardwired into the router though12:57
slougiwell, my router has an option to assign a static ip based on mac address using dhcp12:58
slougithat might be the easiest way if yours has one too12:58
A|i3Nok I'll check it :)12:58
slougiif not you could just set the default route etc. to be your router and skip dhcp12:58
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nonicknamehttp://rafb.net/paste/results/kQ3Hvd68.html :p01:00
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nonicknamei should probably just download a disk, lol01:01
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slouginonickname: well that's an option too ;) although at least for me the edgy upgrade was completely painless, I'm running it on laptop for X 7.1 also01:01
nonicknameahh01:02
archangel_Dr_Willis: you busy dr?01:02
slougifor other people it was a bit more troublesome, but I had a pretty fresh install so there were no complications...01:02
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nonicknamewell, i haven't really done anything except insall/remove a few packages here and there01:02
lascarslougi: i got the following message: FATAL: Module nvidia not found01:03
nonicknamei was having lots of problems when i tried to install the nvidia drivers, too01:03
lascaryou too, eh?01:03
lascarhow'd you deal with it?01:03
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nonicknamedon't remember what i did, but it had to do with downoading a hack/patch for the install script, then doing some other odd things01:04
archangel_my mom is here visiting and thought my pc was off and hit the power button, and now it comes up in 640x48001:04
slougilascar: hmm weird, do you have some custom kernel or something? cause nvidia-glx should pull that in automatically01:04
nonicknamei was using the legacy nvidia drivers01:04
archangel_and the drivers are installed01:04
lascarslougi: nope, i've been doing it the repository way ever since i installed Kubuntu01:04
archangel_I dont understand why its doing this01:04
nonicknamedid you install it with x windows running?01:05
lascardeviated just this once for the updated nvidia drivers, and have i learned my lesson.01:05
lascarnonickname: nope, the installer wouldn't allow that01:05
nonicknameah01:05
Martijn81Ali3N: i don' t have linksys, but maybe this pulldown menu -> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WRT54GL/WRT54GL2.jpg01:05
lascarslougi: should i manually add the module in xorg.conf?01:05
A|i3Ndang. Only thing I see slougi is under network address server setup, and I've got an option that says "Static DNS 1", 2 and 3 and "WINS"01:06
slougilascar: there are two modules, one is for the kernel, one is for X, the kernel one is not being found01:06
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A|i3NI can *block* computers by MAC address.. hehe01:06
slougilascar: basically, X is configured correctly but the kernel driver is MIA01:06
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slougiA|i3N: just set up a static config, K-menu -> system settings -> network settings01:07
slougiA|i3N: you should be able to figure it out ;)01:07
lascarslougi: perhaps the installer partially overwrote it?01:07
A|i3NI think so. :)01:07
slougilascar: very possible01:07
T_Servoman I like 7zip compression... 3Gb 0> 475Mb01:07
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nonickname:o01:08
lascarman, what do i do?01:08
slougilascar: the problem is that you have no net access atm, can't you get the net up without a GUI?01:08
lascarnope01:08
lascarthe connection completely topped out on me01:08
InuDuelistMmm.01:08
InuDuelistI dispise homework.01:08
InuDuelistIt's cutting into my Linux time.01:08
A|i3NSlougi do you think I can set an IP address that is beneath the range of the dynamic IP's assigned by the router? They start at 192.168.0.100, so I'm thinking I should set my ip to something like .99 or something01:09
lascarslougi: my wlan settings are configured perfectly, and I haven't touched them01:09
slougilascar: well that's weird... were you using knetworkmanager or something?01:09
lascaryeah, but only for feedback01:10
slougiA|i3N: I don't think it really matters, you could try one way first, if it doesn't work use something to please your router :)01:10
lascarthe nuts and bolts are through Kcontrol01:10
slougilascar: hmm right, I don't have much wlan experience myself... anyway, you probably have a usb stick or something to transfer files with? or a FAT partition?01:10
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lascarunfortunately, no01:11
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lascari've been making do with a dvd+rw01:11
slougiheh, right. but your network stuff should still work even with the nv driver, I mean the two are not connected01:11
lascarslougi: i know!  i'm completely baffled.01:11
slougivery weird, is your wlan card still detected? in what way does it not work?01:12
lascarslougi: do you think i should manually add the nvidia module?01:12
lascarslougi: it is detected, there's just no connection between it and the router under Kubuntu01:13
slougilascar: no, I'd advise getting networking going and then just reinstall the nvidia stuff with apt01:13
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lascarhmmm...i'll be back01:14
slougilascar: weird, so basically it just doesn't detect a network? have you tried different tools? and how'd this break in the first place? :)01:14
Agiosdid you perhaps have it working then installed nvidia-glx or something that required linux-restricted-modules?01:14
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lascarAgios: that may be it01:14
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lascari remember uninstalling and reinstalling restricted-modules a few times01:14
Agioslinux-restricted-modules has wlan and nvidia updates in it.01:14
TheA|i3NWELL i guess the router likes it, I'm still online. lol. Can you try my IP address again slougi (or someone) 69.220.224.801:14
slougiTheA|i3N: one sec01:15
lascarah.01:15
slougiTheA|i3N: still works01:15
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Agiosso it could impact both even though they would seem to be unrelated01:15
lascarthen that's almost certainly it.01:15
TheA|i3Nok now i'm in the channel 3 times. lol. Thanks for all your help Slougi01:15
nonicknameis there a way to hide things from the taskbar when the current desktop isnt equal to the desktop that the taskbar item isnt on?01:15
lascarbrb01:16
slougino worries :)01:16
nonicknamethat the taskbar item is on*01:16
Ethoshi guys01:16
slouginonickname: yeah in the taskbar properties01:16
Ethosbest way to get steam working on unbuntu? :)01:16
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Agiospour some water on it and heat it up :)01:16
nonicknameslougi: thanks01:16
Ethoshaha01:16
slouginonickname: uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"01:16
Ethos;)01:16
nonicknamedunno why i didn't think of that :p01:17
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slouginonickname: well it's an annoying default to begin with ;)01:17
nonickname:p01:17
nonicknamemaybe there was fear of a virus that hid in the last desktop, minimised :p01:17
nonicknamewtf01:18
nonicknamekonsole just gave me a tip of the day01:18
slougiI think it's just so that people who don't know how virtual desktops work don't lose apps by mistake01:18
slougiwell turn them of then :p01:18
nonicknamei know, but i've never seen a tip of the day for konsole before01:18
nonicknamemaybe it's the aptitude update01:19
slougiprobably the kubuntu default settings are busted in edgy or something01:19
nonickname:p01:19
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SlimGanyone know howto change the color of a word in a wikipage ?01:24
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Ranbeehi, is aptitude the CLI of adept?01:25
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SlimGRanbee: afaik Adept use apt-get01:26
Ranbeeoh, i'm using an installed version of nubuntu and wanted to use aptitude, but it's not there. i thought it might be part of adpet??01:27
Ranbeelol *adept01:27
crimsunnubuntu?01:27
ravenousthey're all frontends for apt-get01:28
Ranbeehttp://www.nubuntu.org/01:28
crimsun(yes, known)01:28
crimsunaptitude _should_ be in the default seed01:28
Ranbeeravenous: do you know how i can use aptitude then?01:28
Ranbeeit's not there01:28
SlimGRanbee: sudo apt-get install aptitude01:29
ravenoussudo apt-get install aptitude01:29
ravenousassuming they're using the traditional ubuntu repos, ive never even heard of nubuntu01:29
Ranbeei'm sure i tried that :| i'll just check01:29
crimsunit's a derivative01:29
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T_ServoHRM01:30
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RanbeeOMG, i'm so sorry, it's already installed, i must have spelled it wrong...01:31
T_Servois build-essential on the 6.06.1 CD.. or does it need to be downloaded?01:31
SlimGravenous: wikipedia entry: nUbuntu or Network Ubuntu is a project to take the existing Ubuntu distribution and remaster it as a LiveCD and Full Install with tools needed for penetration-testing servers and networks.01:31
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ravenoushe posted the link, i understand what it is ;) i had just never heard of it01:31
ravenousT_Servo: should be on the cd01:31
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Ranbeei know it's abit OT, but i'll post this once, screenshots for nubuntu01:32
Ranbeehttp://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=691&slide=3&title=nubuntu+6.06+screenshots01:32
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T_Servohow would I go about installing?  sudo apt-get install build-essential  just gives an error that build-essintial wasn't found01:34
HawkwindT_Servo: Make sure you setup all of your sources01:35
Hawkwind!repos > T_Servo01:35
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T_Servohmm01:36
ravenousif your cd is in the repo list it should pull it right off there, otherwise it'll take it off the net and build-essential is in the main repo so you shouldnt even have to configure anything to access it unless something's already been tampered with01:36
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T_ServoI don;t think it is setup.. because something simple like "make" says it wasn;t found01:37
ravenousmake is in build-essential01:37
ravenousit has to be installed first01:37
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T_Servoyea, figured that.. just trying to figure out how :)01:37
ravenousim saying your repos should already be setup to access it unless they've been messed with01:38
T_Servoyea.. looking at that now01:38
SlimGanyone know howto change the color of a word in a wikipage ?01:38
ravenousmake  sure your spelling it right as well, or open synaptic and search for 'build-essential' you could do as well01:38
alex_hello everyone01:40
alex_how do I update the kernel?01:40
alex_using adept?01:40
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T_Servohmm01:40
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T_Servodon;t see a cd option01:41
nagyvalex_: adept notifier will notify you about a new kernel, and you just have to select it (AFAIK)01:41
alex_nagyv: automatically in the system tray?01:42
nagyvalex_: I think so01:42
alex_nagyv: ok, thanks01:42
edjuLaptop's cd drive is dead, and no floppy drive.  Possible to install kubuntu from an empty partition or  from an external drive mounted via nfs?01:43
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alex_I am getting this errors when trying to install the drivers from ati.com01:45
alex_Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.01:45
alex_Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.01:45
alex_Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.01:45
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mponcehello need help kubuntu wireless WAP2 security01:45
nagyvalex_: are you sure that you need the ati drivers?01:46
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nagyvmponce: try wpa_supplicant01:46
alex_nagyv: 100% positive01:46
alex_nagyv: it's a long story, I installed it successfully last time, but windows destroyed my linux partition so I am re-installing it now01:47
alex_nagyv: except for I am getting this error this time01:47
nagyvalex_: :( sorry, but I am not an expert, so I can not help, I use the free radeon drivers01:48
alex_nagyv: thanks nevertheless man, I need the drivers because I have a redeon X1400 on my laptop01:48
alex_nagyv: the old drivers don't support it01:48
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rouzicHi01:52
rouzicI have a problem01:52
T_ServoOk.. I don;t see how to add the CD as a source in Adept :\01:53
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Dr_Willis:)01:53
Martijn81rouzic: throw it out01:53
redhow would I go about getting and installing drivers for my ati x1300 video card01:54
Dr_Willis!ati01:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:54
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nonicknameuhm.. yea i did get errors upgrading to edgy01:54
rouzicI have installed LILO with the kernel 2.6.15-386 and later I have got up-to-date to the version 2.6.15-686. But on having started LILO it continues with the version 38601:54
rouzicSince I do to change the kernel of take-off?01:54
rednice01:55
Dr_Willisrouzic,  rerun lilo perhaps.. or edit the lilo.conf and fix it. then rerun lilo01:55
nonicknameCould not start process Unable to create io-slave:01:55
nonickname klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.01:55
rouzicmap=/boot/map01:56
rouzic delay=2001:56
rouzic append=noapic01:56
rouzic image=/vmlinuz initrd=/initrd.img01:56
rouzic root=/dev/sda301:56
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rouzicthis is part of my lilo.conf01:56
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dtaheya01:56
Dr_Willisrouzic,  look at /vmlinuz  /initrd.img - they are most likely soft links to the kernel with the wrong version.01:56
nonicknameslougi: uhh.. did you see that?01:57
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rouzic image=/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-68601:57
rouzicThats correct?01:57
ravenousT_Servo: under view -> manage repositories, you need to add a line for the cd, or you can do it in synaptic which i find easier since there's an 'add cdrom' button but whatever works01:58
Martijn81rouzic: with lilo you have to run some file after configuring it, dunno exactly since i use grub a lot lately01:58
Dr_Willisyou rerun the command 'lilo' after changing the lilo config file. :P01:59
rouzicDo I add the version of the kernel in the lilo.conf?01:59
Dr_Willisrouzic,  look where that kernel actually is at... most likely thats WRONG since its not in / its in /boot/01:59
Dr_Willisor change the soft links is an easier way01:59
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rouzicThanks Dr_Willis01:59
Dr_WillisYou are reminding me why i like grub so much. :P02:00
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rouzicI restart and verify if it works02:00
ravenousgood protein02:00
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angasule!sensors02:01
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto02:01
T_Servoravenous: Is there an example of hos that is setup somewhere?  When I tried to setup the CD I got an error message02:01
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jcolei get this installing kubuntu -> /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 42: 3: Bad file descriptor02:04
T_Servoor I can copy the file and right click, install02:04
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T_Servoor not.. heh02:05
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lascarslougi: it turns out that my wi-card isn't being detected afterall02:05
redi think i installed my ati drivers wrong because it doesnt allow the resolution that i had02:06
redwhere do i find the instructions to install the ati again02:06
ravenousT_Servo: mine looks like this -> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06_Dapper Drake_- Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted .. i dont see how its not under your repositories by default if you installed of the cd it should be there unless your sources.list has been tampered with02:06
redi know its 1680x105002:06
redbut it doesnt allow me to chose that02:06
ravenousthe cd is the very first repo commented out on my adept repo list02:07
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T_ServoI just finished installing it not 45 mins ago.. so no way it could have been tampered with02:07
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redati x1300 video card drivers02:09
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jan_hello folks02:10
jan_i am new to linux/kubuntu02:11
jan_and i want to install maya02:11
T_ServoI'll do it the old fassioned way then... copy and paste and manual install02:11
jan_any help on that02:11
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Dr_Willis!ati02:11
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:11
redthanxs02:11
jan_guys any help on maya installation on kubuntu02:12
ravenousisnt maya a windows program?02:12
jan_yeah it has a linux version as well02:13
jcolemaya runs on linux and irix unix too02:13
jan_i have got the rpms02:13
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jcolemaya is not for the faint of heart02:13
mx=(02:13
mxi'm running a terminal irc client02:14
jan_i have been using maya for almost 4 years now since its inception :)02:14
ravenousrpms arent going to work for ubuntu unless you can 'alien' them into debs but ive not tried nor want to02:14
jan_but i need to run it on kubuntu02:15
jan_do i have to download alien02:15
ravenoussudo apt-get install alien02:15
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jcoleravenous: some lazy companies actually alien their distributed .rpm to .deb02:15
mxspeaking of running things on kubuntu, can someone tell me what that command is to reconfigure the xorg configs?02:15
mxapparently edgy doesnt like fglrx02:16
jcolemx: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:16
mxthanks02:16
jan_thanks ravenous02:16
mxnow, how do i copy things without a mouse..02:16
jcolemx: select "ati" driver02:16
jan_ill try this02:16
jcolemx: apt-get install gpm02:16
mxjcole: gpm?02:16
jcolemx: ya02:16
mxjcole: whats that :p02:17
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ravenousjan_: i see some links on ubuntuforums.org on using alien to install on older ubuntu versions so it might work maybe want to search it as well02:17
jcolemx: mouse for text mode02:17
mxahh02:17
mxthanks02:17
mxokay, one more question02:17
mxis there a way i can run multiple things at once in text mode?02:18
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jan_thanks ravenous ill try that02:18
ravenousnp02:18
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ravenousadding & to the end of the program will run it in the background02:18
jcolemx: after you configure X with the "ati" driver, run this02:18
jcolemx: aticonfig --initial02:18
mxx_x02:18
ravenousotherwise open another virtual console02:18
jcolemx: ctrl-alt-(f1 to f6)02:19
mx:o02:19
mx:D02:19
intelikeyok i think i'm back...   now what was i gonna do? !02:19
yonkeltrontalib kweli is golden02:19
mxty jcole02:19
mxi could actually live in the console, if it had some good games..02:19
charimshi everyone, i was having a problem with my sound system, i would get no sound at all, and now, i just opened gaim instant messenger for the first time, and i had sound, so i went to play an mp3, and now i have no sound again :(02:20
intelikeymx it does.   and many of the games that you think require X can run in console02:20
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intelikey!mp3 > charims02:21
jcolemx: "screen" is an app that lets you manage multiple apps in one text window02:21
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mxi see02:21
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mxhmm.. copy+paste?02:22
intelikeyit's also not needed, you have some 128 consoles by default02:22
T_Servohmmm02:22
redi fixed my drivers, i just didnt allow it to go that in depth during all of the detections02:22
intelikeymx gpm02:22
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redthis shit rules02:22
mxi've got gpm02:22
TheA|i3Nhey this isn't kubuntu related but maybe one of ya'll would know this - is there a way to save a video off of a web site that loads via Java? Say there was a business presenation off of a company site that I wanted to use on my own site but it loads via java.. how would I go about saving it?02:23
intelikeyleft button highlight right button paste02:23
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T_Servog++-4.0 depends on libstdc++6-4.0-dev ... but libstdc++6-4.0-dev depends on  g++-4.0  .... o.002:23
mxsay i wanna highlight, then go into another terminal and right click..02:23
mxahh, nice02:23
T_ServoTheA|i3N: check the source.. they may point to the video file in the page code02:23
mxintelikey: thanks, i didnt think it'd work between consoles02:24
T_Servothere are also some firefox extensions that may let you save the video02:24
intelikeymx welcome to the real linux (not that candy *** stuff in X)02:24
ravenousT_Servo: yeah thats not going to help because just installing 'gcc' deb for example isnt going to install the deps02:24
TheA|i3Nwell i looked but it doesn't make any sense to me02:24
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T_Servoyea02:24
TheA|i3Nfirefox extentions ... hm02:25
T_ServoI am down to those two for installing... not sure how to get past this02:25
T_Servogave up trying to get it to look at the CD02:25
ravenousyou need to fix the repos and install it that way, like I said its in the main repo on the net as well if your not getting it from the web or cd then you've got another huge underlying problem02:25
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intelikeyT_Servo do an  sudo apt-get install -f02:25
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InuDuelistI was about to attempt ot give ReactOS a shot, and then I saw screenshots.02:27
InuDuelistNasty.02:27
Dr_Willisheh heh02:27
terry_i was trying to install a printer, and it couldn't install the drivers because i didn't have suffcient priviledges, but i'm the only account.02:27
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Dr_Willisyou need to use 'sudo' to do root-ish stuff. :)02:27
Dr_Willisor similer.02:28
terry_i still don't know what that means02:28
Dr_Willis!sudo02:28
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:28
terry_gracias..02:28
ravenousrun 'sudo' before the command and enter your user password when it prompts02:28
Dr_Willisit means  kubuntu tries to be secure by default. :)02:28
intelikeyhah02:28
InuDuelistBetter yet, type in "sudo su" and become auto-root. It's yummy.02:28
Dr_Willissudo -s02:28
Dr_Willis:)02:28
ravenoussudo -i ;)02:28
intelikeyit means the default user is root-jr  is what it means02:28
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terry_wait... what am i typing in?02:29
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Dr_Willisterry_,  depends on what you are doing.02:29
terry_trying to use the printer wizard.02:29
Dr_Willissudo command-to-run-as-root-user02:29
InuDuelistDoes anyone know if ReactOS allows for the changing of the theme and/or skin?02:29
InuDuelistBecause Windows Classic just isn't going to work for me.02:29
Dr_Willisthe kde printer config tool has a 'administrator' mode button.02:29
NDPTAL85Is ReactOS stable?02:30
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terry_i don't see the adminstrator mode...02:31
charimshi everyone, i was having a problem with my sound system, i would get no sound at all, and now, i just opened gaim instant messenger for the first time, and i had sound, so i went to play an mp3, and now i have no sound again :( its not a codec issue, it has something to do with my sound card, i know this becuase i already downloaded the codedcs,m and now i also get no sound from gaim02:31
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InuDuelistNDPTAL85: I'm not sure. All I know is that its 0.3.0 release has been made.02:31
InuDuelistEveryone's saying that it is, but I doubt it.02:31
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NDPTAL85I keep thinking that if ReactOS gets halfway decent that MS will simply sue it out of existence.02:32
InuDuelistThey can't.02:32
InuDuelistI don't recall exes to be copyrighted to them.02:33
NDPTAL85They aren't. But the overall design of the OS.02:33
InuDuelistCommon design for many OSs.02:33
NDPTAL85Until they've been sued you can't assume that what they're doing is automatically legal. MS are the ones who created Windows first afterall. If anyone can sue those guys its MS.02:33
intelikeyInuDuelist they will find something else to claim.02:33
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InuDuelistintelikey: Maybe.02:34
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Hemersonanhahom02:34
jake1hey i'm a first time kubuntu user, can someone tell me how to install themes02:34
jake1i have been using the gnome but thought i would try kubuntu instead02:34
jake1cuz i kinda like the KDE interface02:35
charims.02:35
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T_Servodoes this look right for the adept:  deb cdrom:pool/main/ dapper main restricted02:37
intelikeywell i'm siriously considering adding a password to my user account.....  i like not messing with passwords but i can't get X worked out where user can use it reliably,  and i get tired of using root for any X activities.....   someone talk me out of it.02:37
T_Servoediting the final manually since adept doesn;t seem to like the cdrom02:37
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intelikeyT_Servo cdrom:///cdrom/pool/main/   ???02:38
charimswhat is a command to kill mpg123 when it is playing?02:38
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intelikey^c    or killall mpg12302:39
kill4killindoes anyone know of a way that i can make my runcompiz.sh file that i made to start up xgl and compiz run when i start up kde?02:39
ravenousps aux for the ID and 'kill' the process02:39
charimskk, thanks02:39
intelikeyravenous why not  kill `pidof blah`   ?02:39
ravenousmore than one way to skin a cat02:40
intelikeytop02:40
ravenousi prefer chainsaws *shrug*02:40
intelikeyxtop02:40
charimshaha02:40
jott_i prefer psdoom02:40
intelikeyksysguard02:40
mxmx@mx-desktop:~$02:41
intelikeyor the M$ way    [ctrl] +[alt] +[del]    reboot    :)02:41
mxmx@mx-desktop:~$02:41
mxwhoops02:41
intelikeymx want to change that ?02:41
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mxlol, my bad, trying to figure out why links wouldnt accept a paste02:41
manchickenIs kubunto a 100%-free(speach) distro?02:42
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jcolebrb02:42
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terry_!sh02:42
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands02:42
intelikeymx test this,    export PS1='\l [\u\$\h.\w]  '02:42
kill4killindoes anyone know how i can add the runcompiz.sh file to the startup of kde?02:42
TheA|i3Nanybody know where firefox's tmp folder is?02:43
mxyou want me to execute that?02:43
linuxkid2anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?02:43
intelikeymx yeah   it changes the prompt02:43
kill4killindo "sudo updatedb" then do "sudo locate firefox"02:43
mxtty2 [mx$mx-desktop.~] 02:43
intelikeysee02:43
kill4killinand then just look through all the directories that get listed02:43
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intelikey:)02:44
terry_how do i run .sh files?02:44
intelikeysh file.sh02:44
linuxkid2kill4killin: add the script to ~/.kde/Autostart02:44
kill4killinlinuxkid2 thanks02:44
osirisis there an app to tell what program is using bandwidth, and how much02:44
linuxkid2intelikey: at prompt, "./script.sh"02:44
kill4killinintelikey, you should just be able to do FILENAME.sh and if that doesnt work, sudo FILENAME.sh02:44
mxintelikey: i was actually trying to figure out why i couldnt paste into rafb's paste form using the highlight and right click method02:44
kill4killinyou also may need to chmod +x the file first02:45
Martijn81osiris: iftop will do02:45
intelikeylinuxkid2 and kill4killin you assume the file is executable.02:45
linuxkid2you do have to make it executable in the permissiones02:45
ravenousif its not executable you have to run sh02:45
linuxkid2the ./ thing works for non-execs sometimes.02:45
intelikeymx hold the shift and click02:45
terry_i'm about to rip out my hair.02:45
intelikeymx inside apps that grab the mouse you have to shift it.02:45
TheA|i3Nactually, i guess i should ask: where is firefox's cache folder02:46
linuxkid2osiris: like top for the network?02:46
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osiristhx, im trying it now02:46
Martijn81terry_: just tell us where it's bugging you02:46
mxah, thanks intelikey02:46
linuxkid2I don't know if top does that, osiris02:46
intelikeylinuxkid2 you don't have to chmod it to use   sh file.sh02:46
ravenousiftop does02:46
linuxkid2yes, that's right02:46
linuxkid2forgot02:46
terry_ok... so i'm trying to run this little file called install-sh from the terminal.02:46
terry_i've done all the change-directory things02:47
terry_i'm in the folder.02:47
mxsh ./install-sh ?02:47
intelikeysh file.sh02:47
ravenousso 'sh install-sh', or './install-sh' with no ''s02:47
terry_it says no input file specified.02:47
ravenoustry mx's02:47
linuxkid2intelikey: yes I know02:48
osirisok, now is there a way to see what file someone is downloading off apache ?02:48
intelikeyone can   . file.sh    as well  but that's less secure02:48
osirisMartijn81, iftop works great02:48
linuxkid2No idea, haven't used apache.02:48
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terry_ok, if i'm too dumb to run a .sh file, how do i install my hpdeskjet 940c without linux telling me i have the wrong privledge and/or the drivers don't exist? :)02:49
Martijn81osiris: yeah it's very configurable too (just hit h)02:50
linuxkid2anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?02:50
nnn0!mp402:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
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mxhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/ByZQIB75.nln.html02:51
linuxkid2!zeroconf02:51
ubotuzeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB02:51
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jake1sorry02:51
mxE: Couldn't find package ati02:52
jake1anyways.......... can anyone assist me in installing themes02:52
jake1i'm new at this02:52
jake1new at kubuntu anyways02:52
jake1i've been using gnome02:52
intelikeymx  you followed the wiki ?02:52
mxuhm02:52
intelikey!ati02:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:52
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mxah02:52
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jake1which normally i drag my tar.gz file to the theme manager and it installs02:52
mxyou see, there is no fglrx driver either, as far as i can tell.. one sec02:53
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jake1however i am not seemingly able to do that with Kubuntu02:53
jake1any ideas02:53
terry_hey um... where do you find your su password? :)02:53
D4rklyam i able to install linux-image-amd64-k8 if im running i386 version of kubuntu ?02:53
intelikeyterry_ there isn't one.   use sudo and your users passwd02:53
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intelikey!sudo02:53
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:53
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ravenousjake1: run kcontrol, under appearance and themes, theme manager, click on 'install new theme'02:53
mxterry_: sudo passwd if you wanna cheat02:53
mxi'm not completely sure that that's safe at all though02:54
Martijn81bah, cheaters02:54
intelikeyummm mx they'll boot you out of here for that.02:54
mx:x02:54
mxsorry02:54
intelikeythat's taboo  you don't tell people how to set the root password  it's against *buntu rules02:55
intelikey:)02:55
mxheh02:55
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mxuhmm.. is there a way to reset the root pw, if, say, someone has already done that? ;)02:55
ravenouswell not against the rules but point them to the root !bang is alot better and let them decide for themselves if they want to use it02:55
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intelikeyseriously there are some *butu zealotts that will putch a hissie about that.02:56
ravenous'not reccomended' is more like it02:56
intelikeymx sure02:56
intelikeypasswd -l02:56
reddwolf78hello can any one give me the easy ubuntu link02:56
mxah02:56
mxthanks02:56
intelikeyor acrually passwd -d && passwd -l02:56
ravenouslearn to use apt-get instead, buuut ..02:57
mxnow passwd -d -l?02:57
ravenous!easyubuntu02:57
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:57
mxnot*02:57
mxah, nvm02:57
intelikeyyou should lock a blanck password02:57
intelikeyblank02:57
terry_ZOMG.02:57
terry_what's the user/pass thingy for cups & adding a printer?02:58
terry_i have never found adding a printer so hard in my life.02:58
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intelikeythe -d sets the passwd to blank   i.e. you don't need one.  then the -l locks it so you can't login that account.02:58
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mxdone02:58
terry_..what02:58
mxtime to find something new to do..02:59
intelikeyterry_ the only password there is, is the one you set.    if it's asking for a passwoed it's asking for yours02:59
mx!video02:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:59
mxhmm02:59
terry_ok, perfect. i know my password. unfortunately cups doesn't like it03:00
intelikeymx thought you were doing ati ?03:00
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mxwtf03:00
jake1ravenous thanks... do i need to restart in order for the theme to take effect03:00
mx!ati03:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:00
intelikeyyeah all the joy of being root-jr03:00
jake1i installed it, and i hit apply but nothing happened03:00
mxThis version of Links does not contain SSL/TLS support03:01
intelikeymx elinks03:01
terry_i'm about to rape my printer.03:01
mx:D thanks03:01
Martijn81intellikey: man passwd say ->03:01
Martijn81-l, --lock03:01
Martijn81              Lock the named account. This option disables an account by changing the password to a value which03:01
Martijn81              matches no possible encrypted value.03:01
ravenousjake1: you may need to restart kde, yeah, i dont remember exactly havent switched in awhile03:01
Martijn81just -l might be enough03:02
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D4rklyanyone know if i can use amd64-k8 with i386 install ?03:03
terry_somebody tell me why my printer just spits out blank pages.03:03
terry_:)03:03
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intelikeyMartijn81 -l is enough to lock it.  i'm not sure it will fix sulogin though.    sulogin is used in single user mode for emergency fixes, it normally asks for the root password; however *buntu uses a hacked sulogin that skips that if the root account is locked with no password,  i'm not sure it will work correctly if you don't blank the passwd first.03:04
MetaMorfoziSjoccak al 1:30 mulva kelek03:04
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terry_ok.. how do i remove a printer?03:05
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jilocasin'ello all03:05
Martijn81intellikey: thanks! :)03:05
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jake1:-\03:06
jake1no theme change03:06
jake1i selected it03:06
jake1it installed03:06
jake1(no preview available)03:06
mxintelikey: wiki didn't help.. want output?03:06
jake1and then i tried to apply it,03:06
jake1nothing happened so i restarted kde and nothing happened03:06
terry_!cups03:06
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows03:07
jake1!themes03:07
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy03:07
intelikeymx i don't think i will be of any use on ati stuff, i've never owned ati *03:07
jake1!changethemes03:07
ubotuInstall gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE)03:07
mxintelikey: ah, well, thanks03:07
mxi think i already fixed this once before03:07
intelikeymx and i don't X very often03:07
mxlol03:07
mx(EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)03:07
mx(EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)03:07
mx(EE) No drivers available.03:07
mx</spam>03:08
Martijn81terry_: please try to /msg with the bot and ask for info that way, it's makes the channel beter to read03:08
jake1any ideas why my KDE theme isn't changing whenever i select it03:09
intelikeyMartijn81 why don't you help terry_ get his/her printer going,  been at it for two days now.03:09
jake1it shows up under the kcontrol theme manager but not in the system settings>appearance03:09
jake1theme place03:09
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Martijn81intellikey: i don't have a printer at my computer, so i never tried and therefore i lack the knowledge03:10
terry_all i need to know is what CUPS wants as the username/password when i try to install a printe.r03:11
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terry_i put in terry/ then the pass, and it doesn't work.03:11
terry_but the pass using the sudo commands works fine.03:11
Search4Lancergrrr.... windows keep disappearing from my alt+tab list....03:11
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intelikeyterry_ local printer ?    you are installing a network printer ?03:11
terry_local.03:11
terry_usb.03:11
intelikeyare you sure you are not in the network section of cups config ?03:12
jilocasincan anyone point me in the direction to info on restoring grub?03:12
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terry_pretty sure..03:12
terry_CUPS at localhost.03:13
intelikeyno local printer   not cups @ anythinf03:13
intelikeyg03:13
terry_..what?03:13
intelikeylocal printer03:13
intelikeyno, local printer;   not cups @ anything.03:14
intelikeypunctuation helps...03:14
terry_oh...03:14
terry_well how else am i supposed to delete a printer driver that doesn't work?03:14
jake1no one knows how to install themes???????03:14
reddwolf78when i run the easyubuntu i get an error could someone help me with it03:15
a212359?03:15
intelikeyterry_ give me about 5 minutes.  i'll be back and try to walk you through it.    take a break and get a drink of water or something.03:16
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terry_sounds like a deal.03:16
intelikeyi have to fire up another box.  back in a bit.03:16
reddwolf78pastebin03:16
reddwolf78!pastebin03:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:17
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linuxkid2anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?03:18
reddwolf78 when i run the easyubuntu i get an error could someone help me with it i but my error message here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2193403:18
Martijn81jake1: yes, do to kde-look.org, download a theme rated for you KDE version and install it the way ravenous said.03:18
Martijn81*go03:18
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jake1how do i tell what version of KDE I have03:19
jake1?03:20
jake1oops03:20
jake1nvm03:20
jake1found it03:20
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Hawkwindjake1: Click on the Help -> About of any KDE app03:20
Jucatoreddwolf78: is Adept running while you try to run EasyUbuntu?03:20
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mxhow do i get drivers that work with ati cards in edgy =/03:20
reddwolf78the first time no03:20
reddwolf78then i tried with it running03:20
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linuxkid2jake1: unless you've manually upgraded, it's KDE 3.4.203:20
linuxkid23.5.203:21
linuxkid2err03:21
Jucatoreddwolf78: don't run EasyUbuntu while Adept or apt-get is running03:21
reddwolf78ok03:21
linuxkid2anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?03:21
reddwolf78i will try it again then03:21
Jucatomx: if you're using edgy, you might want to ask for help in #ubuntu+103:22
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jake1mine says 3.5.203:22
jake1oh03:22
jake1hehe03:22
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mxJucato: thanks03:25
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InuDuelistHey, Jucato's back.03:25
Jucatoehehehe!!!03:25
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InuDuelist... Did you even leave?03:25
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Jucatohmm... yeah, for about 8 hours? ehehe03:26
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InuDuelistYou left?03:26
linuxkid2anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?03:26
InuDuelistSeriously?03:26
InuDuelistLike, sign off?03:26
Jucatoum... I had to sleep...03:27
InuDuelistGreat.03:27
Jucatowhy?03:27
InuDuelistDid you sign off, close Konversation (or whatever IRC Client you use)?03:27
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JucatoInuDuelist: yes. why?03:27
InuDuelistOh.03:27
Tokeiitolabanaktis (good night)03:27
InuDuelistI didn't see your "Jucato signed on" message.03:27
InuDuelistOh.03:27
InuDuelistFound it.03:28
InuDuelistNevermind.03:28
Jucatohmm....03:28
Jucatolol03:28
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JucatoI'm on your Watched Nicknames?03:28
linuxkid2Anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?03:28
erovbig brother O_o03:29
linuxkid2Anyone?03:29
InuDuelisterov: "big brother"?03:29
erovwrong window /window next03:30
Jucatoehehe03:30
reddwolf78that worked this time thanks for the tip03:30
InuDuelistHeh.03:30
reddwolf78i have one other question03:30
reddwolf78how do i set up for djing on a online radio from linux03:31
Jucatoreddwolf78: just make sure that whenever you're trying to run something that installs packages, make sure that nothing else that also installs packages is running03:31
reddwolf78ok03:31
linuxkid2!zeroconf03:31
ubotuzeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB03:31
linuxkid2hmmm.03:31
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reddwolf78linuxkid was that ment for me03:33
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linuxkid2what? the zeroconf? no03:33
linuxkid2Just my own research.03:34
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mxintelikey: no answer03:34
reddwolf78ok03:34
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Jucatobtw, you can make ubotu PM you the result of your query by doing !<query> > <nickname>, something like !mp3 > Jucato03:35
linuxkid2oh, good Idea03:35
linuxkid2It's like the shell03:35
Jucatoyep03:35
Jucatoredirection03:35
ravenousor just msg him what you want to know about ;)03:36
reddwolf78i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux03:36
mxwow.. deja vu03:36
mxi think i actually told someone about being in an irc room from a terminal, something i've never done until now03:37
Jucatoirssi is a very kool IRC client for the command line03:37
linuxkid2Could Avahi possibly be compiled on windows?03:37
mxJucato: yep03:37
terry_Ok, printer problem is fixed.03:38
terry_to whomever cares.03:38
charimsHi everyone, i have a sound problem, and i could really use some help, It's not a codec problem, the specifics are at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1434779#post143477903:38
mxhad zero learning curve, aside from figuring out that alt+number switches between windows03:38
mxwould anyone mind helping me with edgy?03:39
intelikey!add-printer03:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about add-printer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:39
intelikeymx i miss something ?03:39
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InuDuelist!addprinter03:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about addprinter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:40
InuDuelistIt was worth a shot.03:40
intelikey!printing03:40
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows03:40
mxi typed /exit trying to leave a room and killed irssi03:40
InuDuelist>__>03:40
InuDuelist<__<03:40
intelikeyhehhe yep   /part #channel03:40
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mxah03:40
mxi was doing /leave03:40
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reddwolf78i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable03:41
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Agioscharims: try playing with the mixer settings. Sound is obviously working.03:41
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mxreddwolf78: what exactly were you doing from windows?03:41
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charimsty Agios, will try that03:42
intelikeymx tried epic bitchx xchat-text ?   other irc clinets that work in consoles03:42
reddwolf78well from my old xp i was running sam cast to dj songs and i was woundering if i could do the same thing from linux03:42
mxintelikey: bitchx is a bitch to run :p03:42
intelikeymx xchat-text is almost to geeky for me...03:42
DyegovHi I have problems, I have just installed kubuntu, but I can't access my old Windows system, what can I do?03:42
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maltaethironuh oh03:43
maltaethirondyegov: did you do a partition install or a complete install?03:43
mxreddwolf78: sam cast?03:43
DyegovWhen I was installing kubuntu, it gave me the option of reiszing the existing partion and use the space left03:44
maltaethironhmm03:44
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maltaethironanyone here good with dual boot?03:44
intelikeywhat ya need maltaethiron ?03:45
DyegovI just can't lose my windows, I have a lot of important files03:45
maltaethirondygov needs help03:45
reddwolf78its a program to help with getting music online for people to here it03:45
DyegovI'm the one who needs help with dual boot03:45
maltaethirondyegov* needs03:45
charimsHey Agios, tryed both Kmix and Alsamixer, nothing is muted, everthing is up all the way.03:45
terry_anybody successfully running firefox under WINE with java working?03:45
InuDuelist...03:46
InuDuelistWhy are you running Firefox under Wine?03:46
Eeyoresup03:46
intelikeyDyegov important files should never be entrusted to hd only; Xpecally when playing with disk tools.03:46
terry_to get java working. lol03:46
charimsSo, my question is, why did the sound work when the computer just started, but when i tried to play an MP3, everything just stopped making sound03:46
terry_i can't get java working under reg.03:46
DyegovCan somebody help me?03:46
mxmy forehead hurts =(03:46
archangel_intelikey: hey dude, you busy?03:46
InuDuelistDyegov, sure.03:46
InuDuelistWhat exactly happened?03:47
intelikeyarchangel_ yes and no...03:47
DyegovI have just installed kubuntu, but now I can't access my windows03:47
archangel_I cant figure out'why' I have a problem03:47
InuDuelistOh?03:47
Dyegovkubuntu gave me the option of resizing the existing partition and use the left space and I did it03:47
InuDuelistDid you use the graphical installer?03:47
Dyegovyes03:48
DyegovI'm pretty new at this03:48
InuDuelistDon't worry, so was I.03:48
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InuDuelistA year ago.03:48
archangel_intelikey: my mom pushed power on my pc thinking it was off03:48
DyegovI need dual boot in order to use both systems03:48
InuDuelistYou do.03:48
intelikeyDyegov start with this      fdisk -l     and make sure the partitions are all recognized and you know the names of them.03:48
InuDuelistWhen you start your computer up, what comes up?03:48
InuDuelistOK, let him handle it.03:48
InuDuelistIf you need anything else, let me know.03:49
archangel_intelikey: well, it wasnt, and when it rebooted, it cant display anything over 640x48003:49
DyegovBut I didn't understand what I have to do03:49
InuDuelistOpen a terminal.03:49
charimsWhen someone has a chance, i could use some help with ym sound system.03:49
Dyegovalso I doesn,'t say anything, just enters linux03:49
Dyegovwait03:49
InuDuelistUh, oh.03:49
intelikeyarchangel_ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:49
Dyegovok, I'm in terminal03:49
InuDuelistMmm, yakuake.03:49
InuDuelistOK.03:50
archangel_intelikey:  ok03:50
terry_Anyone know how to get Java working with firefox03:50
InuDuelistNow, type in "fdisk -l" minus the quotes.03:50
terry_?03:50
InuDuelistDo you see your windows partition?03:50
reddwolf78 i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable  i used to run sam cast a program that let you put music out to the net to ppl can hear it03:51
InuDuelistDyegov, do you see your windows partition?03:51
Dyegovwait03:51
InuDuelistOk.03:51
intelikeyDyegov looking for 'ntfs' partitions.   take note of the  '/dev/hd**'03:51
InuDuelistSorry for rushing you, but can you explain which step you are currently at?03:52
Dyegovnothing happens03:52
InuDuelist...03:52
InuDuelistYou opened terminal.03:52
intelikeyterry_ did you get my msg ?03:52
InuDuelistRight?03:52
Dyegovis it an "L" or an i03:52
terry_yes, i figured it out :)03:52
InuDuelist"L".03:52
InuDuelistLowercase, though.03:52
terry_i was trying to manage printers through the webbrowser, but i had to go to system, THEN manage printers.03:52
terry_now i'm onto installing java :)03:52
Dyegovyeah, I write that and nothing happens03:52
InuDuelist...03:53
terry_whats that command that gives you superuser powers?03:53
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InuDuelistIs fdisk a sudo command?03:53
intelikey!java > terry_03:53
InuDuelistAnyone remember?03:53
intelikeyInuDuelist if it doesn't list then you can prepend sudo03:53
InuDuelistintelikey: Is fdisk a sudo command?03:53
DyegovI'm lost!!!!!!!!!!!03:53
intelikeyor append the hd  /dev/hda  for exapmle03:53
InuDuelistDyegov, type in "sudo fdisk -l"03:53
charimsyes, it is a sudo command03:54
charimshad to check myself ;)03:54
InuDuelistOK.03:54
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InuDuelistDyegov, did a little "Password:" come up?03:54
DyegovIt worked, but without sudo03:54
InuDuelistOh.03:54
DyegovI was not looged as root 03:54
erovit'd directly affect the hard drive of course it needs root access :p03:54
InuDuelistthat's what sudo does.03:54
InuDuelistsu means root.03:55
InuDuelistOr so, I think.03:55
InuDuelistThat's what I think of it as.03:55
DyegovOk, I found 1 NFTS partition03:55
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InuDuelistGood.03:55
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charimsYAY!!!!03:55
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InuDuelistDoes it match the qualities of your Windows partition?03:55
intelikeysu=switch user   or   super user  depending on how it's applied.03:55
InuDuelistSize, and everything?03:55
Dyegovyeah03:55
Dyegovexactly03:55
shulmanhow do I make the icons on my desktop smaller?03:55
InuDuelistGood.03:55
charimsmaybe he didnt get grub installed03:56
InuDuelistDid you get any message about the installation of GRUB?03:56
intelikeyshulman kcontrol knows a way.03:56
InuDuelistGRUB is the boot manager, by the wya.03:56
Dyegovyeah, when kubuntu was finishing, it said it was intalling GRUB03:56
InuDuelistway*03:56
InuDuelistDid it?03:56
Dyegovyeah, when kubuntu was finishing, it said it was intalling GRUB03:56
InuDuelistBut when you start your computer, it just boots straight into Kubuntu?03:56
intelikeyDyegov do you see ntfs partitions yes or no ?03:56
Dyegovyes03:56
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charimshave you watched it boot03:56
InuDuelistintelikey: He said he did.03:57
Dyegovyes, I see 1 NFTS partition03:57
charimsthere is a ten second wait for you to choose windows or linux03:57
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archangel_intelikey: is there a part 2?03:57
intelikeyok now do  less /boot/grub/menu.lst03:57
Dyegovno, there's not03:57
charimskk03:57
InuDuelistAlright, did you watch it boot? Did it pop up a screen, or did it just boot straight (like, immediately) into Windows?03:57
InuDuelistEr, Kubuntu?03:57
intelikeyarchangel_ restart x03:57
Agioscharims: kmix has some switches too. Play with them as well.03:57
archangel_I did03:57
Dyegovit boot straight into linux03:57
terry_the apt-get command for sun-java5-bin doesn't work, does anyone else know what it would be?03:57
InuDuelistAlright.03:57
charimsAgios: I did  :(03:58
archangel_intelikey: I get the same 640x48003:58
shulmanperfect. thanks!03:58
InuDuelistI don't know how to handle GRUB problems, but intelikey might.03:58
archangel_oh wait, I didnt try to change it03:58
InuDuelistI can almost guarantee that this is a GRUB problem.03:58
InuDuelistDon't worry, you haven't lost Windows. ;)03:58
reddwolf78i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable  i used to run sam cast a program that let you put music out to the net to ppl can hear it03:58
DyegovThanks03:58
DyegovBut what can I do?03:59
archangel_intelikey: yeah, I cant get anyhting higher03:59
intelikeydyegov do  less /boot/grub/menu.lst03:59
kRushhi, someone running keepassx under amd64?03:59
Dyegovwhat's that?03:59
InuDuelistIt's a command.03:59
InuDuelistLike "fdisk -l"03:59
Dyegovwait03:59
intelikeyDyegov look for windows listing  toward the bottom.03:59
InuDuelistLook for any listing.04:00
archangel_I have the bigest icons on the planet04:00
InuDuelistintelikey: He said it boots straight into Kubuntu, that means that there's only one listing.04:00
archangel_ray charles could see them04:00
intelikeyInuDuelist no it doesnt04:00
InuDuelistIt doesn't?04:00
InuDuelistLike I said, I can't really handle GRUB problems.04:01
InuDuelistI'm liable to be wrong from this point on.04:01
DyegovIt doesn't say windoes04:01
InuDuelistWhat does it say?04:01
Dyegovubuntu 304:01
Dyegov times04:01
intelikeyarchangel_ if you configured X properly (the monitor section most of all) then it should work   you can  sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:01
InuDuelistGreat.04:01
InuDuelistThat means you're missing the Windows.04:01
InuDuelistintelikey should help you get that in there.04:02
InuDuelistintelikey: Do that.04:02
Dyegovplease04:02
InuDuelist:P04:02
intelikeyDyegov ok you need to add a windows entry.04:02
InuDuelistDon't worry, it's a minor problem. Should be fixed relatively soon.04:02
archangel_grrrr,   ok04:02
intelikeyDyegov do this    sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst04:02
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intelikeyInuDuelist you dual boot ?04:03
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D4rklyhow do i hide the title bar on a specific window ?04:04
archangel_wow, over my head04:04
Jucatointelikey: why "sudo kate"??04:04
DyegovIt saisa thare were a lot of preblems and nothin happens04:04
archangel_same here04:04
Dyegov"No database avalible"04:04
InuDuelistJucato, you need to be root to save those files.04:04
Jucato!kdesu04:04
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:04
InuDuelistAh.04:04
intelikeyJucato he needs to add a line for windows in menu.lst04:04
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intelikeyand don't tell me sudo wont work on that one...04:05
Jucatointelikey: see what ubotu spit out...04:05
DyegovI'm lost again T_T04:06
intelikeyJucato i wrote part of that.04:06
InuDuelistDyegov: Type in "kdesu /boot/grub/menu.lst"04:06
InuDuelistHeh.04:06
InuDuelistDesu.04:06
Jucato"kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"04:06
InuDuelistDevelopers, developers, developers, developers.04:06
InuDuelistOh, close enough.04:06
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intelikey:)04:06
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erov!04:06
reddwolf78i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable  i used to run sam cast a program that let you put music out to the net to ppl can hear it04:06
reddwolf78jusat whating in line04:06
Jucatointelikey: ok. if you say so04:07
reddwolf78just*04:07
archangel_what is the command to configure x?04:07
Jucatoarchangel_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:07
archangel_col thanx04:07
Dyegovit deny me the access 04:07
archangel_linux makes me feel like a retard04:07
archangel_<-----  straight from windows04:08
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Jucatoarchangel_: coz that "other" OS usually turns its users into that...04:08
redi want some different themes04:08
DyegovOk, intelikey, it's opened04:08
redwhats the easiet way to get some new ones04:08
intelikeyDyegov (lets keep the help happy)   try  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst04:08
archangel_Jucato: lol04:08
intelikeyok04:08
InuDuelistarchangel_: I barely used Linux for a year. I'm still learning it (as you can see from my crap help above).04:08
JucatoWhat are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=304:08
InuDuelistBut... I didn't spend much time practicing.04:08
intelikeyDyegov now you need to add a line at the bottom04:09
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Dyegovwhat line?04:09
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reddwolf78for help04:09
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redalso is there like a net stumbler program for kubuntu04:10
archangel_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16904:10
intelikeyDyegov  title Windows xp04:10
archangel_ajor opcode:  14704:10
archangel_and "3"04:10
Jucatoarchangel_:04:10
intelikeyDyegov   root (hd0,0) chainloader+104:10
Jucatoarchangel_X Error Messages? Read this: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.004:11
archangel_do I still do the xconfig?04:11
archangel_k04:11
archangel_thanks04:11
Jucatoarchangel_: what xconfig?04:11
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intelikeyDyegov    boot04:11
Jucatooooh actinic!04:11
archangel_I mean xorg04:11
reddwolf78when someone gets the time could they help me out find out some information04:12
archangel_it seems to be doing nothing04:12
intelikeyDyegov did you get all three lines ?04:12
Dyegovyes04:12
D4rklyhow can i hide an apps frame ?04:12
Jucatoarchangel_: have you done the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing?04:12
archangel_all the pc did was reboot (hard reboot) and it does all this04:12
intelikeyDyegov save and exit.04:12
CatSoupCan anyone point me in the direction of installing ATi drivers?04:12
Dyegov(hd0,0) chainloader+104:12
actinicyo Jucato!04:12
InuDuelistSave is still Ctrl+S, if it makes you happy. :P04:12
Jucato!ati > CatSoup04:13
Dyegovexactly like that all toghether?04:13
charimshi guys, i have a sound problem, sound worked for a minute or so today when i started my pc, i have a Nvidia CK8 and i am using Alsa Snd-intel8x0 for the driver. So, sound worked until i went to test an mp3, and then all sounds went quiet including gaim :(   Its not a codec problem, and both Kmix and alsamixer are turned up full and unmuted.04:13
Dyegov(hd0,0) chainloader+104:13
Dyegovexactly like that all toghether? (This line)04:13
Dyegov(hd0,0) chainloader+104:13
archangel_yeah, and it did nothing, unless I did it wrong, but I dont see how. Its pretty straight forward Jucato04:13
intelikeyDyegov that needs  root (hd0,0) chainloader+104:13
intelikeyroot04:13
DyegovI've saved the file04:13
D4rklymy kxdocker app is appearing in a window now for some strange reason how can i hide kxdockers frame is the some kind of key combo ?04:14
AZ_AShi all, a complete n00b to kubuntu here...and need some help with adding repositories so that I can install the programs from the dapper package list I saw on the site...apt-get and adept aren't showing some packages, and it's my understanding that the repositories need to be added04:14
InuDuelist!repositories04:14
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource04:14
intelikeywell if that line didn't have 'root' it wont work.04:14
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JucatoAZ_ASNeed to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:14
Dyegovwait, so it has to be "root (hd0,0) chainloader+1" exactly like that intelikey ?04:15
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AZ_ASpreferably both but will check out the site04:15
intelikeyexactly Dyegov04:15
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DyegovOk, it's saved intelikey04:15
ytbnytcan some one help me install vmware player?04:15
Jucatoarchangel_: did you choose the resolution that you wanted? then did you restart X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)04:16
archangel_yeah Jucato04:16
Jucatohmm04:16
ytbnytis there a .deb availble?04:16
intelikeylet me quote them for you  but you don't quote them in the file.     "title windows"    "root (hd0,0) chainloader+1"     "boot"     dyegov04:16
Jucatoytbnyt: VMWare Player can be installed from our repositories04:16
ytbnytmultiverse?04:17
DyegovOk, it's exactly like that intelikey04:17
intelikeysomeone that does dual boot check my syntax please,  im not real famielar with grub04:17
Jucatoytbnyt: universe, iir04:17
archangel_I have a " widescreen" 19"  maybe 1440x900 isnt the best choise for x04:17
nixternalmy partitions on a 60gb drive ->   255mb (/boot), 10GB (/   root for kubuntu), 10gb (/   root for edubuntu), 1gb swap...im trying to install ubuntu now on the remaining 39gb, just use 10gb...but my 39gb says "unusable" any ideas as to why?04:17
mxholy crap i made it back to x windows :D04:17
Jucatos/iir/iirc04:17
ytbnytok04:17
mxcyas04:17
intelikeyDyegov you can test it at any time.04:18
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reddwolf78when someone gets the time could they help me out find out some information04:18
InuDuelistDyegov: Try rebooting.04:18
Dyegovso, do I have to restar right now?04:18
DyegovOk04:18
DyegovI'll be back04:18
InuDuelist:)04:18
DyegovThanks a lot04:18
InuDuelistIf it works, let us know.04:18
InuDuelistIf not, we'll try to help some more.04:18
DyegovOk04:18
AZ_ASwhat is the security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu for? safe to disable or should I leave it enabled to installa package?04:18
intelikeyDyegov np04:18
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redrepositories fixed my problem as well04:18
JucatoAZ_AS: leave it enabled. it's important04:18
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viiiiictorhi there!04:19
AZ_AS'k, ty04:19
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intelikeyAZ_AS it's the bug/security fixup04:19
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nonickname:D04:20
victor_from_chilis there anyone who have a laptop here?04:20
nonickname(this is mx)04:20
intelikeyit can break things.  hehhe  but it aint supposed too04:20
intelikeynonickname nice nickname04:20
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AZ_ASmakes sense04:20
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AZ_ASafter following the steps on the site, it should be working for apt-get too, correct? and so I'll be able to download the programs from both repositiories?04:21
AZ_ASthrough apt-get?04:21
nonicknameintelikey: thanks :p04:21
intelikeyas soon as you update the dpkg database04:21
intelikeyAZ_AS04:22
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AZ_AShow do I do that then?04:22
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intelikeysudo apt-get update04:22
victor_from_chilhi?04:22
nonicknameis there a way to get cd to ignore case by default? :p04:22
Dyegovintelikey , windows is now in the list, but it says kernel should be loaded before booting T_T04:23
AZ_ASalright, just ran it and got an error...said "could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:23
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AZ_ASdisregard?04:23
intelikeyDyegov hmmm that why i asked for anyone to confirm the syntax....04:23
reddwolf78when someone gets the time could they help me out find out some information04:24
Dyegovthe other ones in the list had something about kernel, but this one no04:24
intelikeyAZ_AS means you have adept open probably04:24
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intelikeyDyegov give me a second i'll check the syntax and get back to you.04:24
AZ_ASthat'd explain it04:24
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DyegovOk intelikey , thanks a lot04:25
erovreddwolf78: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAudioStreaming.html04:25
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reddwolf78thank you04:26
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erovthats just one but if you need further just holler.. i havent done it but i know it's "doable"04:26
tlinuxhello04:26
tlinuxdoes anybody know anythign about ppp and dialup internet04:26
AZ_ASyes, thank you! that site helped tons :)04:26
reddwolf78ok04:26
AZ_ASalrighty, gonna go but thanks again04:27
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tlinuxhow come i can connect using pppconfig but kppp alwyas gives a stupid error 104:27
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charimsok guys, im not sure about this, but the "comprehensive sound problems solutions guide" told me to add the line options "snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=3" to "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base" this might fix my sound problem eg. "No sound", anyone know anything about it04:28
ytbnyti looked it up at packages.ubuntu.com and it is in multiverse, how do i enable multi in adept?04:28
InuDuelistMmm. Time to import my media collection from Windows to Amarok.04:28
victor_from_chilcan someone helpme compiling the kernel for my laptop??04:28
InuDuelistHere goes the rest of my night.04:28
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charimshaha have fun InuDuelist04:28
intelikeyDyegov maybe i did have bad syntax for that,   do  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst     again and under windows remove all and inster this in it's place   "rootnoverify (hd0,0)04:29
intelikeymakeactive04:29
intelikeychainloader  +104:29
intelikey"04:29
Hail_SpacecakeI have a netgear wireless card running with ndiswrapper04:29
Hail_Spacecakeit shows up in iwconfig04:29
edwardamAnyone know how many simultaneous TCP/IP connections the linux 2.6 kernel can handle?04:29
intelikeyDyegov no quotes of course.04:29
Hail_Spacecakebut when I do sudo iwlist wlan0 scan, it says there are no networks04:29
Hail_Spacecakeeven though there definately are04:29
Hail_SpacecakeI'm on a wlan not two feet from the antenna right now04:29
Hail_Spacecakeand the same card works fine in SuSE04:29
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trprHail_Spacecake: hrm. what happens when you manually set the ssid, instead of scanning04:29
intelikeyDyegov and sorry for the bad code.  been so long sense i saw a windows partiton....   and i don't use grub either....04:30
DyegovNp04:30
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Dyegovbut what do you want me to erase exzactly intelikey ?04:30
Hail_Spacecaketrpr: I can't get online04:30
charims Hail_SpaceCake do you have a usb card, and what type? Model no?04:30
intelikeyevery thing under the "title windows"04:30
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Hail_Spacecakeno, pci04:31
intelikeyDyegov %04:31
Hail_Spacecakenetgear04:31
Hail_Spacecakewg31104:31
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InuDuelistDyegov, got it working yet?04:31
charimsoh, ok, sorry, i can't help you, if it was USB, i could, I have a MA11104:31
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intelikeyInuDuelist would have if i hadn't dropped the ball.04:31
ytbnythello?04:31
charimshello04:31
InuDuelistInuDuelist would have what?04:32
DyegovI'll uote it intelikey04:32
charimsyes, there are people here, haha ;)04:32
intelikeywhould have had it working04:32
InuDuelistI don't know if you're speaking sarcasm, or if you're serious.04:32
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InuDuelist2.6 gigabytes of music being transfered over as we speak.04:32
Dyegov"title Windows XP root noverify (hd0,0) boot" is it fine intelikey ?04:33
intelikey<InuDuelist> Dyegov, got it working yet?<><intelikey> InuDuelist would have if i hadn't dropped the ball. <-- what's not to understand ?04:33
charimsgonna restart, check if the new line in alsa-source fixes the sound04:33
InuDuelistThat.04:33
kRushlibQtXml.so.4 - which package is it in? i can't find it04:33
InuDuelistAre you trying to say that I would have helped him, or that I would have got it working for me?04:33
Hail_Spacecakedoes anyone know why iwlist might not work?04:34
Dyegov"title Windows XP root noverify (hd0,0) boot" is it fine intelikey ?04:34
intelikeytitle Windows04:34
ytbnythow do i enable multiverse in adept?!!04:34
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InuDuelist!multiverse04:34
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource04:34
intelikeyrootnoverify (hd0,0)04:34
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intelikeymakeactive04:34
InuDuelist33% of 2.6 GB.04:34
intelikeychainloader  +104:34
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Jucatoytbnyt Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:34
RogueThunder'Ello! Nice to meetcha all... so... Anyone hanging around preticulary willing to help a newbie get a linksys usb wireless card working? ^.^'04:34
Dyegovbut I dont understand intelikey, do I have to put twice root? so it would be root rootnoverify (hd0,0) ?04:35
intelikeyDyegov no.  the whole thing needs to be just what i pasted. ^04:35
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Dyegovbut in the documet i'm modyfing, it follows a format, so you put title       windows04:36
somekoolHello04:36
Dyegovroot     something04:36
Dyegovso it would be "root noveify (hda0,0)"04:36
Dyegov?04:36
somekoolI downloaded the latest DVD Live of Kubuntu but could not mount my NTFS partitions. anything I need to load in order for this to work ?04:37
Kr4t05does anyone know how I can minimize an xterm session to the system tray?04:37
intelikeydyegov "title Windows"   "rootnoverify (hd0,0)"   "makeactive"   "chainloader  +1"     four lines.04:37
DyegovOk04:37
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InuDuelistAnyone feel like writing up a program that allows you to take and upload screenshots?04:38
InuDuelistYes?04:38
intelikeyand actually i think the 'makeactive' will be superflutious, but it can't hurt anything.04:38
CatSoupi thought there were already programs for that?04:38
DyegovDont I have to put Boot intelikey ?04:38
derekShow do i enable xdmcp in kde? i know how to do it in gnome.... i just want to set it so that other people can loging to my machine via X04:38
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intelikeyDyegov not acording to the manual pages  only on lines with kernel specific actions.04:39
trprksnapshot makes great screenshots04:39
DyegovOK, I'll try, I'll reboot, brb intelikey04:39
intelikeyk04:39
ytbnytthanks, it worked.04:40
InuDuelistw00t.04:40
InuDuelist91% of 2.6 GB Transfered.04:40
charimsok, rebooted, what is a reliable way to test sound, im worried if i try playing an mp3 it might break the sound again :(04:41
ytbnytlogging off in one... two... three...04:41
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InuDuelist98%...04:41
InuDuelist99%...04:41
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InuDuelistAaanndd....04:41
InuDuelistDone.04:42
InuDuelistw00t.04:42
InuDuelistTime for step two.04:42
InuDuelistImporting.04:42
charimssom1 please, what is a realible way to test sound?04:42
Agioscharims: playing a mp3 is as good as any.04:43
Eeyorea tuning fork04:43
RogueThunderBatovens 4th? XD04:43
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Dyegovintelikey it didn't work, nothing happened04:44
charimslast time i played an mp3 the sound quit working, right after it was working a second before on Gaim Instant messenger04:44
intelikeycharims cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp04:44
intelikeyDyegov what do you mean nothing happened ?04:44
intelikeyyou have to select windows in the menu at boot time04:44
charimsYES SOUND04:45
charims:)04:45
InuDuelistintelikey, what's the command to edit GRUB? I want to check something.04:45
DyegovI pressed enter key in where it said "Windows XP" but nothing happned intelikey04:45
charimsok, now to find why an mp3 breaks it, and so des jsut about everything else04:45
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Dyegovkdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst04:45
charimsthanks Intelikey04:45
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intelikeyDyegov hmmm that's not good.04:46
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intelikeyDyegov lets have at that partition.04:46
red_god hates internet04:46
intelikeyDyegov lets have a look at that partition.04:46
red_the storms are messin wit my power04:46
Dyegovhow intelikey?04:46
intelikeysudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt04:46
intelikeyif it burps out any errors i want to see the error04:47
Jucatoif I use the "nv" drivers, can I still get 3D hardware acceleration? or that only works with the "nvidia" drivers?04:47
Dyegovno, no errors04:47
reddwolf78what would the comand be to get a exe file to intall04:47
Dyegovno errors intelikey04:48
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intelikeyDyegov ok now open konq and have a look around in /mnt    see if it looks like windows c:04:48
intelikeykonq=short for konqueror file manager.04:48
Dyegovit doesn't let me enter to /mnt intelikey04:48
intelikeyhmmm no read access ?04:49
charimsok, mpg123 no longer breaks the sound, but it doesn't play soud either, anyone have any suggestions?04:49
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Dyegovi dont know intelikey04:49
intelikeydyegov sduo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mnt04:50
intelikeywe'll make it let you.04:50
intelikeyerr sudo   ^04:50
intelikeytypo04:50
reddwolf78<erov> do you know how to get a exe file to load04:50
Jucatoreddwolf78: you need to have wine installed to get .exe files to run04:51
intelikeywine blah.exe04:51
drizhey guys  how do i update 6.06 on konsole04:51
reddwolf78how do i find out if i have wine installed04:51
intelikeydriz sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:51
Jucatoreddwolf78: you probably don't it's not installed by default04:51
reddwolf78darn04:51
intelikeyreddwolf78 wine --version04:51
InuDuelistOh, right.04:51
InuDuelistI forgot to Import.04:52
InuDuelistCrap.04:52
reddwolf78what do i do to get it then04:52
InuDuelist>_<04:52
intelikey!wine04:52
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:52
RogueThunderwouldnt adept have a decent wine package?04:52
reddwolf78i'm runing kubuntu 6.06.104:52
RogueThundergeneraly04:52
RogueThunderthat is04:52
intelikeyDyegov i haven't heard from you.  is it  c:  or not ?04:52
Dyegovintelikey , it didn't work04:52
Dyegovit doesnt let me enter04:52
JucatoRogueThunder: Ubuntu's version of wine is quite outdated04:53
RogueThunderAh, no suprise...04:53
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charimsok, mpg123 no longer breaks the sound, but it doesn't play soud either. i just noticed, amarok freezes when i try to play na mp3, is that a symptom of the same issue, i have the mp3 codecs installed04:53
intelikeyDyegov right here in the irc client type this back to me without quotes pelase  "/exec -o ls -ld /mnt"04:53
actiniccommand line tip of the day:  type 'history' without the quotes04:54
Dyegovit gives me an erorr04:54
intelikeyerror is ?04:54
Dyegovscript -o not founded04:54
InuDuelistTime to set Global Shortcuts.04:55
InuDuelist:304:55
intelikeyok.  client doesn't support that.   then use the konsole and show me the output of  "ls -ld /mnt"04:55
intelikeyi want to see what we are playing with and why that thing didn't boot.04:56
Dyegovit says:04:56
erovyes use wine... for what though?04:56
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InuDuelistGlobal Shortcuts set.04:56
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InuDuelistTime for Albumart.04:57
Dyegovdr-x------ l root root 8192 2006-08-28 19:11 /mnt04:57
tj_hey, me and my bro are new to linux, I have extracted the files from the firefox gzip, what do i do now?04:57
Jucatoactinic: have you also tried Ctrl+R ? :-D04:57
Dyegovintelikey:04:57
Dyegovdr-x------ l root root 8192 2006-08-28 19:11 /mnt04:57
intelikeyDyegov "sudo chmod 755 /mnt"   and try to browse it again.04:58
tj_anyone, plz?04:58
charimsyaya, finally, an error, no sound, i typed "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp" I got "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"04:58
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Dyegovdone, and it still doesnt let me enter intelikey04:58
actinicJucato, whoa!04:59
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intelikeytj_ why not install the ubuntu version of firefox?04:59
intelikey!ff04:59
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins04:59
Dyegovdone, and it still doesnt let me enter intelikey04:59
tj_I'm using Kubuntu04:59
intelikeyyeah i saw,04:59
charimsyaya, finally, an error, no sound, i typed "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp" I got "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" Someone please, i need to figure this out05:00
tj_and05:00
tj_I don't see it in the menu05:00
intelikeyDyegov thinking.05:00
actinicJucato, here's a quiz:  what's the command line to list installed software?05:00
DyegovOK, NP intelikey05:00
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Jucatoactinic: dpkg -l05:00
tj_does it come with fire fox?05:00
tj_wanted limwire05:01
tj_needed java05:01
tj_java needed mozilla05:01
Jucatoactinic: here's a command to tell you how many packages are installed: dpkg --get-selections | grep "\binstall$" | wc -l05:01
intelikeyDyegov kill konq and run this "kdesu konqueror"   and browse /mnt05:01
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actinicJucato, here's another way:  dpkg --get-selections05:01
actinicoops, u beat me to it :)05:01
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Jucatoactinic: lol05:01
charimsIs there someone out there who can help me?05:02
DyegovOk, I'm in intelikey05:02
driz!ask05:02
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:02
tj_I don't mean to bug, but is someone gonna help me?05:02
charimsyaya, finally, an error, no sound, i typed "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp" I got "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" Someone please, i need to figure this out05:02
actinicok here's another for you Jucato:  How do I verify which ports are listening?05:02
DyegovIt's my windows partition intelikey !!!!!!!!!!!!05:02
intelikeyDyegov is it  C:\   or not ?05:02
intelikeykewl05:02
Jucatoactinic: that I don't know. I no squat about porst, networking, etc :-D05:02
actiniclol finally got you!  :)05:03
Jucatoehehee05:03
actiniccheck it:  lsof -i05:03
actinicor ...05:03
Dyegovno, it's just /mnt/ intelikey05:03
Jucatoweee! scrolling text...05:03
actinicnmap localhost05:03
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intelikeyDyegov lol05:03
actinicor ...05:03
actinicnetstat -an05:03
Jucatonmap isn't installed...05:03
intelikeyyou answered already :)   <Dyegov> It's my windows partition intelikey !!!!!!!!!!!!05:03
Agiosactinic: netstat -a | grep LISTEN05:03
Dyegovjajaja Ok, what's noxt intelikey?05:04
Jucatoehehe thanks Agios05:04
Agiosthat will list all listening ports05:04
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actinicthanks Agios05:04
CatSoupAnybody want to tell me how to get Java working with Konqueror? And don't give me a wiki about Java, it didn't work for me.05:04
intelikeyDyegov ok.  now we are stuck with the question why didn't it boot...05:04
actinicthis concludes our command line session for the evening :)05:04
JucatoCatSoup: did you already choose which Java version the system willl use by default?05:04
Jucatoactinic: yep eheheh!05:04
Kr4t05There seem to be no plugins for Kopete that allow me to use Yahoo! Voice, or AIM Voice Chat features. :<05:05
Dyegovmaybe some mistake in the codes intelikey05:05
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Jucatoif I use the "nv" drivers, can I still get 3D hardware acceleration? or that only works with the "nvidia" drivers?05:05
actinichere's a nice linux ref:  nixCraft FAQ's at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/05:05
CatSoupjucato: What do you mean?05:05
charimsI have no sound except through gaim, so, i ran this test to help test my sound system "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp " this used to play a sound, but now i get this error "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" I think this may be the problem with my sound, so if someone would help me solve this problem...05:06
intelikeywe confirmed that the address is correct  /dev/hda1 should == (hd0,0) in /boot/grub/device.map    you can check that.05:06
intelikeyDyegov ^05:06
actinicalso, nixCraft Tutorials at http://forum.cyberciti.biz/tutorials-vf9.html05:06
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JucatoCatSoup: it's in the Wiki. after you have installed Sun Java, you have to choose that version as the default Java version that the system will use05:06
intelikeyDyegov actually "grep (hd0) /boot/grub/device.map05:06
intelikey"05:07
Kr4t05charims: something is dominating /dev/dsp/. Do you have any apps that would obviously use the sound system? (Audio players, etc)05:07
DyegovOk ill do it intelikey05:07
CatSoupi know, the wiki didn't work. it pointed to a bad package05:07
CatSouppackage that didn't exist.05:07
intelikeyshould give one line "(hd0)   /dev/hda" <--- just about like that.05:07
Jucato!java05:07
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository05:07
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intelikeyDyegov should give one line "(hd0)   /dev/hda" <--- just about like that.  confirm ?05:08
JucatoCatSoup: bad package? didn't you install sun-java5-bin from the repositories?05:08
maltaethironhey yous all....who can tells me how to put itunes on this thing?05:08
DyegovIt's not working intelikey05:08
charimsat KR4t05 no, nothing running right now, but i tried to run MPG123, and it didn't break the sound at first, so i think it has something to do with the fact that i tried to play something else for sound05:08
intelikeyDyegov what error ?05:08
Dyegovcould you please put exactly what I have to put?05:08
CatSoupjucato: gimmie a second, sudo isn't working, i tihnk something else is using it.05:08
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Kr4t05charims: try changing the sound system.05:09
RogueThunder*sighs* Would anyone mind helping me with my wlan setup? Ive tried all sorts of things, from faqs n such, and nothings helped... Though my adapter seems installed... i think.05:09
intelikeyDyegov put "grep (hd0) /boot/grub/device.map"05:09
Dyegovintelikey , the error is in spanish, my system is in spanish05:09
intelikeyoh.05:09
Admiral_ChicagoDyegov, Pm me with the message05:09
maltaethironwhat exactly is wrong, roguethunder?05:09
Admiral_Chicagoi speak spanish05:09
charimsKr4t05: It has to be on alsa though, right? Becuause my driver is an alsa driver05:09
CatSoupJucato: when i do apt-get install sun-java5-jdk it says it can't find the package.05:09
Kr4t05charims: Let's just try this and see what happens.05:09
RogueThunderWell... basicaly, even by direclty adding in the information for my router, im not getting any connection or such05:10
JucatoCatSoup: you need to have multiverse enabled05:10
JucatoCatSoup: Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:10
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bkudriacan someone help me figure out why libfam0 wants to remove a bunch of my kde apps?  i need libfam.la, to compile basKet 0.6.0 ...05:10
Kr4t05charims: system settings > Sound & Multimedia05:10
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago you dual boot with windows ?05:10
JucatoCatSoup: also, you're trying to install jdk = Java Development Kit05:10
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_tomas_oi05:10
DyegovI dont know how to do that intelikey05:10
RogueThunderThough my wireless card, if im not mistaken does show up slightly strangely.05:10
CatSoupeheh ^_^05:10
maltaethironhmm05:10
Admiral_Chicagointelikey, err no05:10
Kr4t05charims: Stupid question, is "Enable the sound system" checked?05:10
RogueThunderShows up as eth2...05:10
charimsyes05:11
maltaethironanyone think they can help out RogueThunder?05:11
intelikeyDyegov ah  hehhe i guess you have to quote it.  let me sent you another line.05:11
RogueThunderIm using latest normal distro, downloaded 2 nights ago.05:11
DyegovOk05:12
intelikeyDyegov put "grep -e '(hd0)' /boot/grub/device.map"05:12
intelikeywithout the ""05:12
maltaethironATN!: RogueThunder needs wlan help05:12
CatSoupadept won't launch >_>05:12
_tomas_oi05:12
_tomas_alguem a fala portugues?????????/05:12
RogueThunder^.^' thanks for the finding help help atleast maltaethiron05:12
Dyegovit says "(hd0) /dev/hda" intelikey05:12
_tomas_OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA05:13
_tomas_ALGUMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE05:13
intelikeyjucato05:13
_tomas_DO BRAZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL05:13
_tomas_I AM BRAZIL05:13
_tomas_YOU SPEAK PORTUGUES????05:13
intelikeyDyegov that's as it should be....  thinking.05:13
maltaethironRogueThunder: no problem, I really wish I could help, but I'm kindof a n00b to linux05:13
RogueThunder^.^ same here for the most part05:13
bkudriacan someone help me figure out why libfam0 wants to remove a bunch of my kde apps?  i need libfam.la, to compile basKet 0.6.0 ...05:14
CatSoupwhat's multiverse mean anyways?05:14
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trprmore than one reality?05:14
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derekSanyone want to help with xdmcp?05:14
derekSand kde?05:14
maltaethironcould someone perhaps help me out with putting iTunes or maybe an iTunes clone onto Kubuntu????05:14
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derekSi can't get it to work05:14
RogueThunderwhats your prob malt?05:15
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maltaethironi just want to know if there's an iTunes port or clone for kde05:15
RogueThunderwell05:15
RogueThunderi doubt it would be hard to run itunes itself in wine05:15
redcardUgh.  No DRM :P05:15
RogueThunderthough, thats a bit of a bag of tricks on its own05:15
RogueThunderother than that... ugh dont use itunes so i dont relay know what it does at this point05:16
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intelikeyDyegov i haven't left you.  just give me a few minutes here.05:16
maltaethironmeh, what's wine roguethunder?05:16
DyegovOk, no problem intelikey05:16
RogueThunderWine is a nifty program for linux that allows you to run windows programs in linux without windows.05:17
maltaethironoh, thats..nifty05:17
maltaethironlol05:17
maltaethiron!wine05:17
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:17
maltaethironw00t05:17
RogueThunder^.^05:17
RogueThunderexaclty.05:17
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CatSoupwell the java installation just farked itself up.05:18
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maltaethironnow, can i get wine via synaptic or adept?05:19
intelikey!repos05:19
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:19
pk0ninkwine repository is at http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt05:20
maltaethironoh its a repo?05:20
RogueThunderadept has, appernetly an older verison05:20
CatSouphttp://winehq.org/site/download-d05:20
RogueThunderatleast, so i herd05:20
maltaethironok, thanks a lot guys, and roguethunder...05:21
RogueThunderSo anyone willing and able to give me a bit of wlan help?05:21
maltaethironi gotta get off now, but ill check all this out05:21
maltaethironthanks05:21
maltaethironlater bros05:22
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DFMrogue: the best I can tell you is that if your adapter appears to be showing but won't show any networks you may need to use ndiswrapper to install the proper dirver.05:25
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RogueThunderhum05:26
RogueThunderand... i would go about this how?05:26
tj_plz plz plz, help a linux n00blet?05:26
DFMI just loaded a machine with a built in wifi. It showed but I couldn't see my wifi.05:26
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RogueThunderstating what you want help with, generlay helps ^.^'05:27
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DFMFurther research revealed that you needed ndiswrapper to get it to actually work and then it would only work dismly.05:27
tj_ok05:27
DFMtj: what do you need?05:27
tj_I need to install firefox05:27
tj_I have the firefox folder05:27
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RogueThunderopen adept.05:27
tj_with all the files05:27
RogueThunderfind firefox05:27
RogueThundertell it to install05:27
tj_adept?05:27
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RogueThunderthe package installer05:27
RogueThunder!adept05:27
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:27
RogueThunder^.^05:28
intelikeyDyegov i just looked up a possable fix.   lets edit the menu.lst again05:28
DyegovOk intelikey05:28
tj_whats the password?05:28
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tj_o05:28
tj_ok05:28
tj_nvm05:28
DFMtj: you should have ff already installed by default. no sense in downloading and making the package when ur package manager will do it for you. unless you are wanting to leatn05:28
intelikeyDyegov "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst05:28
DyegovOk, I'm on it intelikey05:28
RogueThunderIve actualy had it not preinstalled before, but yeah.05:29
intelikeymake it look like these lines.05:29
intelikeyroot (hd0,0)05:29
intelikey makeactive05:29
intelikey chainloader --force +105:29
intelikey boot05:29
DFMrogue: what I done was find a wifi adapter that was said to work out of the box. bought it and have been surfing since.05:29
RogueThunder*chuckles*05:29
RogueThunderThat sucks.05:29
tj_I picked install05:30
tj_I just wait?05:30
RogueThunderSo far, everything elce works perfectly on my pretty little anceint slave system, but i cant get it online because of this...05:30
DFMthis was after 2 weeks of trying to get several adapter's on hand to work with ndiswrapper cards that some said worked out of the box.05:30
DyegovOk, they're exactly like that, invluding "Title" ay the beggining intelikey05:30
DFMI gave up and bought a d-link dwl-g65005:31
intelikeyfour lines.  i'll quote them for you  "Background color"  "makeactive"  "chainloader --force +1"  "boot"05:31
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intelikeylike that Dyegov  ?05:31
intelikeyand yes plus the title windows line05:31
tj_is it installing?05:31
DyegovBackground color? intelikey05:31
DFMi found it at a target locally and then my friends found it online for about half once I done the leg work and found a card that actually worked05:31
intelikeyoooops05:31
intelikeyno05:31
DFMtj: did you tell it to apply after selecting the package?05:32
RogueThunderWell ive already got a card that *should* operate.05:32
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intelikeydyegov these four lines.   "root (hd0,0)"  "makeactive"  "chainloader --force +1"  "boot"05:32
DFMif so then it will tell you when it is done and viola it should show under the internet tab under aplications05:32
Dyegovyes, but I've added "title Windows XP" at the beginig, an then those 405:33
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DFMrogue: did yoiu check the list of cards to see if it was supported? some will work but are finicky05:33
intelikeyDyegov correct.  save and test05:33
DyegovOk, brb intelikey05:33
RogueThunderHeh... mines probobly in the finicky list... cant remember05:33
tj_how i tel it to apply?05:33
RogueThunderIts a finicky card under windows... nuf said.05:34
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DFMtj: when you run your package manager and find ff, you mark it (if in ubuntu) or request install under kubuntu, then up top click on apply and it will download and install05:35
tj_ok, i applied05:36
tj_how I acsess it?05:36
DFMrogue: I would just spend $37 on the d-link if you don't want to hassle with that card05:36
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DFMtj: refer to earlier post. Once it complete's it will tell you it is done. then go under the internet list and it will be there.05:36
tj_I don't see it, it's done tho05:37
intelikeyhey if i'm in the market for a very dependable eth card what's the linux users choice ?05:37
DFManything that connects to the internet is listed under "internet". Close the package manager05:37
tj_it's closed05:37
intelikey    linux users ?05:38
reddwolf78how do i get win05:38
reddwolf78wine*05:38
tj_win05:38
DFMintel: i like about any linksys card. they have always showed up and worked since RH 7.305:38
tj_wine05:38
arepie!wine05:38
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:38
tj_wine is not an emulator lol05:38
intelikeyreddwolf78 sudo apt-get install wine05:38
reddwolf78thank you i had to relog in and lost the page05:39
DFMcan't say the same for their wi-fi's05:39
tj_anyway05:39
tj_how i see firefox05:39
tj_?05:39
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intelikeyDFM ty.05:39
Dyegovintelikey , I'm using windows!!!05:39
DFMtj: try this, open a terminal (konsole) and type firefox................05:39
tj_ok05:39
tj_h/o05:39
intelikeyDyegov you're welcome.05:40
intelikey:)05:40
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intelikeyand i'm gone.05:40
DyegovThanks a lot intelikey05:40
tj_YAY05:40
tj_thanx05:40
tj_how i know how to get to it?05:40
DFMtj: have a good evening05:40
reddwolf78thanks05:40
tj_besides using konsole05:40
reddwolf78and getting wine will help with me getting exe files to load up05:41
reddwolf78right or wrong05:41
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DFMtj: alternately you can hit control + f2 and type the command firefix05:41
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DyegovI'll get back to kubuntu and try to fix some things, thanks again intelikey05:41
Jucatoreddwolf78: half right, hafl wrong? not all windows programs will run in Wine05:41
RogueThunderHum05:41
tj_does it require me to reboot?05:41
reddwolf78what about winamp doyou think that would run05:42
DFMtj: finally if you can start firefox then I am reasonably sure it is showing up under a menue you have just yet to find it.05:42
DFMtj: does what require a reboot? the install of ff?05:42
Jucatoreddwolf78: hm... I wouldn't know. I think winehq.org has a sort of database of what apps run/don't run in Wine05:42
tj_yeah05:42
reddwolf78ok05:42
Jucatoreddwolf78: but may I ask why you need Winamp?05:43
DFMtj: no. about the only time yoiu must reboot is when you load or install a new kernel05:43
RogueThunderive found another possible fix in my spesific case, problem is i cant modify the file i need to... its the interfaces file at ect/network, wont let me save it...05:43
tj_it should have added it already, right?, I have checked the K Menu?05:43
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RogueThunder*sighs* i assume this is some kind of need for a sudo command or the like... im used to having root heh05:43
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DFMtj: it's inthere somewhere. if yoiu can't find it reboot and check05:44
tj_ok05:44
ravenouskdesu kate interfaces05:44
DFMrogue: have you attempted to open the said file using nano?05:44
RogueThundernano?05:44
reddwolf78so i can dj on sat nights winamp has a build in program of shoutcast05:44
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Jucatoaaah05:45
RogueThunderit opens automaticaly in kate, so, no05:45
reddwolf78that i need for broacasting05:45
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Jucatoreddwolf78: have you tried searching in Google for a similar app in Linux?05:45
DFMthat is just another text editor but it never fails me when I use it05:45
RogueThundernor is anything by that name avalible in the open with menu...05:45
spazzHey Jucato ........ I am trapped inside Knoppix Live CD now ... (05:45
RogueThunderits a permisions issue, im sure05:45
Hawkwindreddwolf78: Try freshmeat, as they have all sorts of stuff for that05:45
RogueThunderi just05:45
RogueThunderdont know how to give it permission05:45
spazzMy HDD finally died. Heads crashed I think.05:45
DFMcommand as follow sudo nano + path05:45
Jucatospazz: oh man... that's bad....05:46
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spazzJucato, yea, lol. I got a few errors for the first time, saying I had bad sectors.05:46
reddwolf78do you have the link for that05:46
tj_YAY05:46
tj_firefox!!105:46
tj_it worked05:46
tj_but I guess it needed a reboot05:47
spazzThe Windows installers I tried ..,. would immediately bluescreen, Ubuntu Live CD refuses to run ... and ... bah, lol. I need new HDD ... :(((05:47
DFMwhen you use sudo with nano you will have the ability to modify the file and save it. just go slow and check the controls listed at the bottom05:47
tj_I also have abyss web server, how I install it?05:47
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DFMtj: same way you installed ff05:47
Jucatospazz: are you absolutely sure that the HDD is dead?? :-(05:48
spazzIt's dead enough not to want to have any OS installed to it.05:48
bkudriacan someone help me figure out why libfam0 wants to remove a bunch of my kde apps?  i need libfam.la, to compile basKet 0.6.0 ...05:48
tj_I have all the files, it auto adds it to the package installer05:48
tj_?05:48
DFMbkudria: youi are over my head on that one05:49
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spazzthat sucks too.05:49
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spazzi have an iBook with a dead HDD too.05:49
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spazzAnd it's LCD is dead, like my Sony's is dead, lol.05:49
DFMtj: when you select the main package in debian based systems the package manager will usually always get all req packages'05:50
RogueThunder*whisltes along* rebooting the ancient pentium 3! Resurect o slab of the past! Oh yo ho hum.05:50
Jucatocan .msi (MS Installer?) be run in wine05:50
DFMrogue: what kind of machine are you running your distro on?05:51
RogueThunderProbobly would have to install ms installer into it first... which i could imagine possible... depending.05:51
nathanI haven't been able to get MSI's to work at all :(05:51
RogueThunder*chuckles* A throwtogether p3-800 slot 1 oldie i put together out of the leftovers of 3 computers and a few other spare parts ^.^05:51
Jucatonathan: oh.. krap...05:51
nathanWhat are you trying to install?05:51
RogueThunderwith a nifty viper 770 vidcard05:52
Jucatoa game I downloaded....05:52
RogueThunderMany o years ago... the cpu was our main system heh.05:52
nathanoh gotcha. I'm sure it could be done, but with some nice tweaking since MSI's deal more with OS files than standard self-contained EXEs05:52
DFMbeen there done that05:53
Jucatoyeah.. time to Google...05:53
RogueThunder^.^ yes well, i finaly got the poor thing to boot...05:53
RogueThunderlike05:53
RogueThundera week ago05:53
tj_I have a .rpm, wtf is this?05:53
nathanGood luck and if you figure it out....be sure to proclaim it to the world! :)05:53
DFMi picked up a piii 800 thinkpad for a $100 bucks and couldn't bare to load m$ since it only had 128megs of ram05:53
RogueThunderYour fermilar with the low voltage signal line used in a ps2 port, right?05:53
LeeJunFanspazz: I had to replace the bulbs in my Sony GRX LCD's quite often.05:53
tj_?05:54
tj_anyone?05:54
spazzyea, lol this is a GRX570.05:54
DFMy05:54
nathanRPM?05:54
RogueThunderA bad switchbox ran the high voltage monitor wire through it.05:54
tj_what i do with a .rpm05:54
DFMtj: hold your forses and be patient05:54
RogueThunderThats why the system needed repairs.05:54
spazzLeeJunFan, the screen comes on, but its dark for like a split second when I first turn on my computer.05:54
tj_I also have the .zip for limewire05:54
nathanDepends on what linux distro you are running05:54
DFMwe can only respond so fast05:54
tj_kubuntu05:54
LeeJunFanspazz: Had 2 of them, both of them also suffer from the notorious bad motherboard solder job and only 1/2 of RAM is recognized.05:54
tj_obviously05:54
RogueThunder48 volts, run through a 1.2v max port *shuders*05:54
tj_lol05:54
RogueThunderIndeed, it booted afterwards.05:55
DFMrpm is Red Hat Package manager05:55
spazzyea. this used to be nice in its day lol.05:55
tj_ok05:55
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spazzNow I am getting a Macbook Pro woo. Put all three OS's on it.05:55
nathanThen the RPM isn't useful to you at all..... Kubuntu is based on Debian and uses a different package manager. You'll need to use the ZIP file if you can't find anything with a .deb05:55
LeeJunFanspazz: yeah, sounds like the backlight. The bulbs are cheap but the work is a PITA.05:55
Jucatotj_: rpm stands for RedHat Package Manger. it is the .deb of the Red Hat-based/RPM-based world05:55
spazzLeeJunFan, how much are the HDDs for these?05:55
tj_ok, I have the .zip05:55
tj_I just extract05:55
tj_?05:55
DFMat the stage your at leave it aling and stick with .deb packages or read up on alien to use other distro's package's.05:55
Jucato!limewire05:55
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.05:55
LeeJunFanspazz: I dunno, any standard 2.5" should work.05:55
spazzoh really ..05:56
RogueThunderWell05:56
spazzcuz i know it just pops out lol.05:56
Jucatotj_:  see that link about LimeWire05:56
RogueThunderI actualy got a differant responce now.05:56
LeeJunFanspazz: yeah, the HD itself is inside that little enclosure.05:56
LeeJunFanspazz: you take that part that pops out apart and the HDD is inside that.05:56
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tj_how i run the .sh05:56
tj_?05:56
RogueThunderOh... joy, now the card just doesnt work at all.05:56
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spazzWonder how much I could get a 2.5 drive for... dunno what laptop hdds brands ar egood05:57
DFMi find frostwire better and it's a clone of limewire but with out the nags05:57
RogueThunderThat... obvously didnt work...05:57
nathanRun the .sh from Konsole05:57
tj_I type cd /home/tj/Desktop/LimeWire05:57
tj_then05:57
tj_what?05:57
DFMspazz: I think newegg listed a WD 80 or 100 gig 7200 rpm for $10005:57
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nathanlimewire.sh I think05:57
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obf213anyone know wehre i can watch tv on my computer for fee05:57
tj_it just tells me05:58
tj_bash: limewire.sh: command not found05:58
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Jucatonathan: lol! wine has a utility for installing .msi files!05:58
spazzid only want like ... a 60gb or something05:58
HawkwindOuch!  $100 for 100GB is damn expensive05:58
robotgeektj_: chmod +x limewire.sh, ./limewire.sh05:58
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Hawkwindspazz: You are much better off buying atleast 160GB now days05:59
RogueThunderWell, for all i havent gotten any farther, i now understand how to edit things as if i was root on rootless mode...05:59
nathanNo Way!! Damn, nice find!05:59
Hawkwindspazz: You can get 160GB drives for under $6005:59
reddwolf78i got winamp work but keeps asking for active x controler but does not download it  how can i get the active x to work05:59
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nathantj: gimme a sec05:59
Jucatonathan: "msiexec /i <.msi file>"05:59
spazzgah! ... 2.5 laptop drivers?05:59
spazzdrives *05:59
RogueThunder>.> i barley missed a deal of a 250 for 30$ a month ago in a 3.5''05:59
nathanWay to go jucato... time to do some installin'05:59
Hawkwindspazz: Oh for a laptop05:59
obf213!tv05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
spazzyea05:59
tj_ok05:59
tj_it now workie06:00
DFMhawkwind: I think it was the whole 7200 rpm thing06:00
spazzneed cheap laptop driver06:00
tj_it no*06:00
tj_workie06:00
nathanoh wait06:00
nathanyou'll need to type in runLime.sh I think06:00
Hawkwindspazz: 80GB for about $75 on pricewatch06:00
tj_ah06:00
nathanJust remember what that other guy said, you'll need Java 1.4 installed atleast06:01
spazzLeeJunFan, how much did those builbs cost ?06:01
spazzLeeJunFan,  bulbs for the lcd06:01
tj_o06:01
DFMI haven't looked for a laptop drive yet. I want a bigger and faster one but don't want to spend to much money since this laptop is old06:01
tj_i get that with firefoz06:01
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tj_firefox*06:01
nathanWell if you have it installed properly then runLime.sh will install Limewire for ya.... and if it doesn't install you'll need to get Java installed, which isn't that hard06:02
spazzDFM, me too. Don't want to blow much money on this, I mean the LCD is already dead.06:02
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DFMmy $100 laptop is up to $230 just by adding 256 megs of ram and a wifi card06:03
tj_ok06:03
intelikeyback on my own box.... better.06:03
tj_not so hard, give me a link for how to install06:03
DFMI ant another 256 to max out memory and then replace the hd.06:03
intelikeystartx error06:04
intelikeyFatal server error:06:04
intelikeyxf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)06:04
reddwolf78i got winamp work but keeps asking for active x controler but does not download it  how can i get the active x to work06:04
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intelikeywhere would that permissions error be happening ?06:04
DFMthen my $100 laptop will be $400 and then I can be frustrated that for $500 I could have bought a new laptop06:04
nathanInstall Java?06:04
tj_yes06:04
Hawkwindreddwolf78: You should search freshmeat.net for something linux native to use instead of winamp06:04
tj_is it in the packages?06:05
reddwolf78ok06:05
enzoquestion06:05
nathantake a look in the Package Manager, I haven't looked there for a while06:05
nathanok?06:05
enzoI'm about to install Kubuntu06:05
enzoon my desktop06:05
enzobut this time, on another drive06:05
nathank06:05
enzohow do I go about doing that?06:05
DFMto get limewire to work I had to use automatix to get the correct java environment installed06:05
enzothe partition setup part06:05
nathanThe installer will ask where you want it06:05
nathanJust pick the second drive instead of a partition on your primary drive06:06
intelikeynathan i hope you are not talking about the live cd installer.......06:06
enzonathan, so what do I do for my root drive, just leave it as it is?06:06
DFMyes06:06
tj_wtf, so how am I gonna go about installing java?06:07
nathanno I'm not, is the live one different?06:07
Healot!java06:07
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository06:07
enzoI'm on the LIVE CD06:07
nathantj: did you check Adept?06:07
LeeJunFanspazz: sry - ran out for a bit. The bulbs were fairly cheap - less than $20/ea I think.06:07
intelikeyenzo  you set your new root '/' to be where you want linux installed.06:07
nathanenzo: sorry buddy, I'll let someone else take it... I didn't use the Live CD06:07
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LeeJunFanspazz: soldering skills are required.06:07
enzothank you nathan for your input06:07
DFMbut let grub install on the MBR. If you ever want to remove linux just use a windows boot disk and fdisk the mbr06:08
enzointelikey, but doing so won't fark over my GRUB and initial Kubuntu setup on the first HDD?06:08
intelikeygrub has nothing to do with where the system installes to enzo   but yes it is going to over write grub.06:09
spazzLeeJunFan,  for 20$ I will learn lmfao. Where did you get them? I tried finding them before.... can always get someone else to solder it for me lol. I know like 3 electricions.06:09
spazzHow long does it take though? .. like how difficult is it?06:09
LeeJunFanspazz: this is where I got mine. http://www.moniserv.com/doc/ccfl.htm - actually only $1206:09
DFMenzo: you pick what hdd it goes on. you don't have to let it install on your win dirve06:09
nathanhey tj_, you there?06:09
enzomy main concern is losing what I have now on my first/primary HDD06:09
enzoOIC06:09
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rouzic_ausenteGood Bye!06:10
nonicknamehttp://pastebin.ca/15275706:11
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tj_i'm here06:11
Dyegovexcuse me intelikey , but do you know how can I recover the partitions I used in kubuntu for my windows?06:11
intelikeyenzo at step 5 or 6  can't recall which  it asks you to confirm the drive/partitions/mountpoints.  there are check boxes at the right that you check to have them formated.   make sure none of the partitions you want to keep are checked for formating.06:11
nathanok so go to www.java.com and download the Linux installer (non RPM)06:11
spazzLeeJunFan, hmm. So basically .......... 60$ for new HDD ... and 20$ for LCD bulb? ... hmm. lol.06:11
LeeJunFanspazz: make sure you pay attention while taking apart the LCD to get the layers of plastic back together correctly, and try to be as dust free as possible. I got fingerprints on mine but they don't show up, but hair and the fragments of white reflector that get in the LCD will show up bad.06:11
InuDuelistintelikey: I'm still working on my library.06:12
DFMnathan: are you trying to get ur java working for limewire?06:12
InuDuelistI was hoping it really wouldn't take up my whole night.06:12
spazz... not sure how I would try taking apart. Havent looked at it yet.06:12
InuDuelist:/06:12
LeeJunFanspazz: I think I've done it a total of about 4-5 times between the 2 laptops. about a 2 - 2 1/2 hr job, probably a lot more the first time.06:12
tj_it keeps trying to be opened with kate06:12
intelikeyInuDuelist sorry, you lost me.   dirrect questions are a lot easier to answer.06:13
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nathanya.... right click on the .bin and get the properties. Under the permissions TAB you need to check the box to make the file an executable06:13
tj_anyone?06:13
LeeJunFanspazz: you have to take out a few screws and bend some tabs out of the way to get it all apart. And remove 2 ribbon cables. And a lot of tape.06:13
nathanThen you need to run the file in the Konsole ./jre-blahblahblah06:13
InuDuelistintelikey: It wasn't a question.06:13
nathanand it'll install it all for you06:13
LeeJunFanspazz: make sure you take the tape off first or risk damaging the ribbon cable.06:13
InuDuelistI was just telling you that I'm still working on my library.06:13
spazzDoes the tape have to be put back on?06:14
tj_I ran it, now what, nothing popped up?06:14
DFMnathan: food for thought. I tried everything to get my java right and kept getting error messages when ever I tried to run limewire.06:14
intelikey:)     but mine was an indirrect question    i.e.  what/which library InuDuelist06:14
Dyegovexcuse me intelikey , but do you know how can I recover the partitions I used in kubuntu for my windows?06:14
nathanDFM: I never had any issues once 1.4 JRE was installed and it's been working fine.... hmmmmm06:15
LeeJunFanspazz: yes, to make sure the ribbon cables don't come out. Also some is copper grounding tape which needs to be re-attached.06:15
RogueThunderWow... such a fast boot sequence compared to a windows running laptop XD06:15
InuDuelistHey, Dyegov is still here. :D06:15
enzoWhen it asks me about Mount Point, I put the root "/" to my new HDD, right?06:15
nathantj: you need to run it in the Konsole, not double clicking06:15
InuDuelistintelikey: My collection. The entire thing.06:15
InuDuelist:/06:15
tj_o06:15
tj_ok06:15
DFMthe only way I could get my jave right to use limewire was to use automatix to install it. then it worked. maybe you will have better luck06:15
DyegovYes InuDuelist, but I'm now using windows ;)06:15
LeeJunFanspazz: gotta get to bed. Good luck - it's not hard, just mostly tedious.06:15
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LeeJunFangnight.06:15
spazzhmm. but its self explanatory right06:15
nathanit'll give you a long License agreement, just space through it and type in "yes" when asked and it'll do the rest06:15
reddwolf78i found one but not sure witch one to get weather its got the  or bz2 at the very end of itgz06:15
enzoDFM, intelikey...06:15
enzoWhen it asks me about Mount Point, I put the root "/" to my new HDD, right?06:15
intelikeyDyegov as in use the space for something besides linux ?06:15
spazzi mean just common sense ... like you see where everything is, and its not too difficult to put together just time consuming..?06:15
reddwolf78or does it make a diffrence06:16
DFMenzo: yes06:16
DFMmake absolutley sure you are installing on your new hd06:16
intelikeyDyegov or are you talking about accessing the linux partition/s from windows ?06:16
DFMif indoubt stop and back track06:16
RogueThunderSomeone who can help with wlan setup of a linksys usb wlan card wouldnt happen t be around? (mise as well keep asking XD)06:16
tj_I type in Konsole06:16
Dyegovintelikey yes, something like that, make them NTFS again so I can use them in windows, or better,put them all toghether again06:16
nathansorry?06:16
tj_cd /home/tj/deskttop06:16
tj_then06:16
tj_jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin06:17
enzoDFM, doing so won't do anything to my original, right?06:17
tj_right?06:17
nathanno you need the ./ infront of the .bin file06:17
tj_ok06:17
nathan./jre-1......06:17
intelikeyDyegov i don't do windows.  sorry.06:17
Phoenix92xdyegov: if you want to access your linux partitions in windows google "ext2 ifs"06:17
DFMnothing happens until you tell it to apply06:17
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Phoenix92xreally nifty kernel level driver for windows that enables read/write on linux partitions =) (excluding reiserfs)06:17
DyegovOk intelikey , no problem, thanks a lot06:17
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tj_yay, installing!06:17
nathananytime you need to run a .bin file or anything from the Konsole (as in launch it) you need to put a ./ first before the file.... just FYI in the future06:17
DyegovI'll do it Phoenix92x06:18
tj_ok06:18
tj_thanx06:18
tj_what I do now06:18
Phoenix92xhope it works for ye06:18
tj_just wait?06:18
DFMenzo: if you have anything you cant loose stop now and back it up.06:18
nathanhas it fully installed and it says "Done"?06:18
tj_yes06:18
nathanya just wait until you see "Done"06:18
tj_now i can close out Konsole06:18
enzoIt's currently scanning files06:18
nathanafter that you can exit the Konsole, and now you run the runLime.sh or whatever it was called06:18
tj_ok06:19
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tj_thanx06:19
enzobut it didn't say anything about touching my first HDD, other than the swap06:19
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DFMenzo: you shouldn't have any problems. is the new hd larger or smaller than your win drive?06:19
enzosmaller06:19
tj_do I need to keep the folder it created on my desktop?06:19
DFMno your swap should install on the new drive06:19
enzomy primary is 250GB, this new HDD is only 80GB06:19
nathanThe Java folder?06:19
tj_yeah06:19
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intelikeyit's one thing to help a guy get something running  it's another to find out that one windows command was all he really wanted. Dyegov in windows fdisk /mbr  or fixmbr was all you wanted and we spent an hour fixing grub so you could remove......       fdisk is your windows partition manager iirc    but it's been a while.06:20
enzoI did install the swap on the new HDD06:20
tj_it's called jreblahblahblah06:20
DFMso when it ask youi what drive you want to install on you know you are selecting the smaller drive?06:20
nathanhonestly, I have no idea.... I've always left it in my Home folder (which is where I had extracted it to)06:20
DFMgood06:20
enzoyes06:20
DFMnp then06:20
enzook06:20
tj_o06:20
enzothank you DFM06:20
tj_well, I guess I don't need to worry about it then06:20
enzomuch appreciated06:21
tj_I'll rename it, and see what it says06:21
DFMonly time you will touch your original hd is when you install grub to allow you to boot between os's06:21
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nathanyou can always get rid of it and if things dont work run the installer again (but from a folder somewhere, not the desktop)06:21
DyegovI didn't know about that either intelikey06:21
DFMit won't hose ur win os06:21
DFMlinux plays real nice with other os's unlike win06:21
enzokew06:21
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DFMfurther linux will ask you if it's ok to install on the MBR instead of just doing it06:22
Phoenix92xput simply, linux is a polite butler taking care of your things, windows is a bull running through it06:22
nonicknamewhere should i go to get help with x.org?06:22
DFMah very good analagy06:23
intelikeyDFM you must not have seen the livd cd  installer06:23
enzointelikey, who caused you to go this route... I liked/valued your input. You've always been helpful06:23
InuDuelistDyegov: Good to hear you got dual-booting working.06:23
DFMI did that's what I used06:23
tj_what i type in konsole?06:23
tj_to run it06:23
tj_I'm navigated to the directory of the .sh file06:23
nathanyou installed Limewire already?06:24
intelikeyenzo i wont name names.    and i'll get over it.06:24
enzoI prefer Frostwire to Limewire06:24
DyegovYes InuDuelist , but it just give me 1 second to select, anyway it's working :D06:24
tj_omg06:24
nathanNow you can just open up a "run" box (ALT+F2)and type Limewire06:24
tj_it tells me I don't have a valid java installed06:24
InuDuelistDyegov, it doesn't matter. All you have to do is press up/down within that 1 second.06:24
DFMgood night all06:24
InuDuelistI can help you fix that, though.06:24
InuDuelistGood night.06:24
enzogoodnight DFM06:25
enzoand thank you06:25
DyegovYeah, I know ;)06:25
InuDuelistLATE'D.06:25
nathanOpen up Konsole and type java -version06:25
intelikeyenzo but if you are truely curious scroll up and read my long post/rant  just before that.06:25
enzowill do06:25
RogueThunderAaaah06:25
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RogueThunderi see06:25
RogueThunder*laughs*06:25
RogueThunderwell... i have some tings to try...06:25
nathanif it doesn't talk about Sun Microsystem then it's still looking at the standard built in version.... which in that case you might need to restart for the new one to kick in (or log out/in again)06:25
enzointelikey, "GRUB loading, please wait...                     Error 17"06:26
tj_ok06:26
enzofixmbr?06:26
tj_let me log out06:26
tj_brb06:26
nathank I'll be around06:26
intelikeyenzo na just 'rtfm'    lol06:26
enzoHEY06:26
enzoI would if I had one06:27
intelikeyis that a real error enzo ?06:27
enzoyup06:27
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enzowon't load GRUB06:27
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intelikeyyeah you need to boot the live cd   and reinstall grub for the linux on the primarry hdd06:28
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enzook06:28
enzohow do I reinstall it?06:28
enzojust overwrite the file with the backup that I have?06:29
intelikeythe new install over wrote your working grub without asking you anything,  didn't it ?06:29
tj_omg06:29
enzoseems so06:29
tj_it still hasn't detected the new java, should i reboot06:29
tj_?06:29
intelikeyenzo no. you need to mount the linux root partition and chroot into it then  sudo grub-install    and edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the new linux system to it.06:30
nathanUmmmmmmmm, you got me06:30
robotgeektj_: NO NEED06:30
robotgeeksorry for caps06:30
nathanRobotGeek....hook him up!06:30
tj_what I do then?06:30
nathanwhat's the solution?06:30
tj_lol06:30
robotgeeki assume you have tried !java already06:31
InuDuelist!robotgeek06:31
intelikeythat should all be pretty streight forward for an old linux hand like your self06:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about robotgeek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:31
InuDuelistDarn.06:31
InuDuelistThat would have been badass.06:31
tj_yeah06:31
tj_it's the right version06:31
robotgeekintelikey: havent messed with kubuntu in a while, everything just works06:32
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enzoold linux hand?06:32
tj_?06:32
intelikeyenzo yeah you.06:32
enzowhat does that mean?06:33
enzonever heard it before06:33
nathantj: hey, just FYI...you can delete that folder that was created.... Java is installed somewhere else06:33
tj_ok06:33
tj_and, what about my java prob tho06:33
intelikeywell you have installed linux before.  you are not a newbee anymore....06:33
InuDuelistintelikey: Wrong.06:33
robotgeektj_: you are not on esoteric platform, like powerpc, i hope06:33
nathanBut ya, I don't know what to say for that...when I installed it last year it worked great and I havne't had to reinstall06:33
enzotrue06:33
tj_right06:33
InuDuelistI went through a dozen Linux Distros before I got where I am.06:33
InuDuelistAnd I'm still a newb.06:33
tj_im on kubuntu06:33
enzobut I don't know about old06:33
intelikeyoh;  ok :)06:34
enzoI've only been using Kubuntu for about 1-2 months06:34
robotgeektj_: okay, and you installed sun-java from multiverse, i assume06:34
enzoactually, since June 1, 200606:34
enzoso actually, almost 3 months06:34
tj_somone gave me a link06:34
intelikeya dapper pup.....06:34
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enzoyup06:34
robotgeektj_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java this one?06:35
enzoI was about to use Breezy, but someone told me to just download and use Dapper instead06:35
enzoso I did and here I am06:35
nathana link to...?06:35
InuDuelistYou know how a CD is certified badass?06:36
InuDuelistIf it states that the songs have "violent content".06:36
enzoWTF?06:36
jorge_hola06:36
enzowhich distro has that?06:36
tj_ok06:36
InuDuelistHm?06:36
jorge_alguna chica?06:36
InuDuelist!sp06:36
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB06:36
InuDuelistDamn it.06:37
tj_I am there, it asks me for my pass, and it won't let me type it on06:37
enzo!es06:37
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:37
InuDuelistClose enough.06:37
jorge_thanks06:37
enzotj_ you don't see it, type it and and hit enter06:37
tj_it tells me"06:38
tj_Reading package lists... Done06:38
tj_Building dependency tree... Done06:38
tj_E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin06:38
tj_"06:38
reddwolf78how do you install a file that has a bz2 at the end of the file name06:38
Martijn81how dangerous is upgrading the firmware of a benq dvd-drive by using wine?06:38
robotgeek!compile06:38
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:38
enzointelikey, I can't mount my HDDs06:38
tj_anyone?06:39
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intelikeyMartijn81 about like doing sudo /sbin/*     turning off the monitor and typing randomly.....  :)06:39
intelikeyenzo sudo it.06:39
enzocan't find /dev/hda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Please check that the device is plugged correctly.06:40
intelikeyit wont be in fstab.     sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt06:40
tj_it can't find my sun-java5-bin?06:41
nathantj: did you do the two steps underneath06:41
tj_wtf?06:41
tj_no06:41
Martijn81ok i get it intellikey, thank you ;(06:41
enzosweet06:41
nathantry those out: sudo apt-get install libqt-perl06:41
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nathanand the one underneath, then try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin again06:41
enzook, so I chroot into what now?06:42
intelikeyMartijn81 i may have over stated it.  but you do get the jest.06:42
intelikeyenzo chroot /mnt06:42
intelikeyenzo sudo grub-install /dev/hda06:43
Martijn81more or less yes, i'd better hijack my mother pc then....06:43
enzosudo chroot /mnt06:43
enzoright?06:43
intelikeyenzo you can sudo the chroot if you like.06:43
enzook06:43
intelikeyprolly better to do it that way.06:43
enzohda or hda6 (the linux partition)06:43
intelikeyhda06:44
intelikeythe mbr06:44
enzosudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()06:44
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tj_no work06:45
intelikeyenzo if you sudo the chroot  you don't need to sudo the grub-install06:45
tj_brb06:45
Zambouliesomeone hold my hand through the XGL installation06:45
tj_logging out, then back in06:45
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enzooh, ok06:45
Zambouliei'm scared to do it but i really want it06:45
intelikeyyou are root.06:45
enzook06:45
robotgeekenzo: changed hostname, right?06:45
Zambouliehas anyone installed XGL on kubuntu here?06:45
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enzosays            /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device06:46
tj_back06:46
nathanhey06:46
enzothe hostname is ubuntu06:46
enzoI am on the live CD06:46
robotgeekoh okay.06:46
enzoubuntu@ubuntu06:46
Zambouliesomeone tell me what the XGL channel is plz06:47
tj_tarting LimeWire...06:47
tj_Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...06:47
tj_OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com06:47
tj_OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy06:47
tj_You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com06:47
tj_ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory06:47
tj_OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy06:47
tj_You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com06:47
enzo!pastebin > tj_06:47
tj_ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory06:47
tj_OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy06:47
tj_You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com06:47
tj_wtf?06:47
nathanCrap.... man, I don't know what else to say... I'm not a newb but I'm not advanced at Linux. This is as far as I can take you06:47
Martijn81!xgl > Zamboulie06:47
tj_srrry ppl06:48
nathan!xgl06:48
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:48
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tj_how about my limewire prob?06:48
robotgeektj_: do dpkg -l sun-java5-bin06:48
nathanrobotgeek: sounds like he doesn't have that package on his disk06:49
intelikeyarrrg  that's cause *buntu sucks.     the device node is probably missing.   because *buntu depends on the initramfs.img to create it.    enzo if you are still chrooted do this  "mknod /dev/hda b 3 0 && grub-install /dev/hda "06:49
enzogo with Frostwire06:49
intelikeyenzo ^06:49
tj_aight06:49
enzoweird06:50
enzosays            /dev/hdb1: Not found or not a block device06:50
enzoinstead of hda06:50
reddwolf78i still don't under stand how to get this file to uplaod06:50
robotgeekreddwolf78: what is it that you are tyring to install?06:50
intelikeyok we'll make that one too.06:50
enzomake what/06:51
enzo?06:51
reddwolf78geexbox-1.0-lite.tar.bz206:51
reddwolf78i found it on freshmeat.net06:51
intelikeyenzo "mknod /dev/hdb1 b 3 65 && grub-install /dev/hda"06:51
robotgeekreddwolf78: usually, you would tar -jxf file.tar.bz2, ./configure, make06:52
hitjimsorry to butt in, but hopefully my question is quick:  Does anyone know offhand what the latest stable kernel is for *buntu?06:52
tj_ok06:52
enzomknod: `/dev/hdb1': File exists06:52
tj_I have the FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586 file06:53
tj_what i do now?06:53
reddwolf78ok but how do i do that i have read that web that was given to me but don't under stand could be cus i'm a first time user of about a weak06:53
intelikeyenzo did you try to run that twice ?06:53
robotgeektj_: can you tell me output of "dpkg -l sun-java5-bin"06:53
enzorun which twice?06:53
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tj_it said package not found06:53
intelikeynm06:53
tj_anyway06:54
tj_what I do with the .dep package?06:54
tj_or06:54
tj_deb06:54
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intelikeyenzo you are in the "sudo chroot /mnt "  still correct ?06:54
tj_anyone?06:54
robotgeektj_: okay, so java is not installed. i doubt if frostwire will run too06:55
tj_awww06:55
tj_can i try06:55
tj_?06:55
robotgeektj_: we can work on getting java installed, though06:55
enzoI am root06:56
tj_ok06:56
tj_help me then :)06:56
enzointelikey, I am still under root06:57
robotgeektj_: please enabled multiverse repository06:57
intelikeyenzo still chrooted ?06:57
hitjim2.6.12-10-386 has a date of Jul 18 this year, is that still the most recent kernel?06:57
tj_um, english please?06:57
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enzoI will do it again if you'd like intelikey06:57
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robotgeektj_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:57
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intelikeyyeah exit  and do this.    "sudo chroot /mnt grub-install "     and see what happens.06:58
enzook06:58
intelikeycause i'm not sure what that last error was all about.06:58
enzolooks like a short 'man' page06:59
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intelikeyenzo what does ?06:59
enzosudo chroot /mnt grub-install07:00
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intelikeyoh.   add /dev/hda07:00
intelikeymy bad.07:00
enzowill do07:00
enzonp07:00
enzosays "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."07:01
intelikeyi've see that many times.  you don't have any whole disk file systems do you ?07:01
enzowhole disk FS?07:02
intelikeypartitionless disk07:02
enzonope07:02
enzowell, except for this 2nd HDD07:02
enzopure Ext with SWAP07:02
enzo*Ext207:02
intelikeyno that's not partitionless.07:02
Martijn81hitjim: in dapper? no that's 2.6.15-26-386, you can check yours with: uname -a07:02
enzothen nope07:02
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intelikeycan you pastebin me the output of   sudo fdisk -l07:03
intelikey!pastebin07:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:03
enzohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2194407:04
enzo^intelikey07:04
intelikeyenzo you might add the output of   ls -l /mnt/dev/hd*07:06
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nonickname.. i destroyed my linux comp07:07
enzohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2194607:07
intelikeyty07:07
enzo^intelikey07:07
enzoyw07:07
enzobut really TY07:07
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nonicknameokay, startx ends with a permission denied on /dev/null07:08
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nonicknamelogging in from a new ctrl+alt+fkey gets-bash: /dev/null: permission denied07:09
nonicknamelast time i tried to start x it actually opened x, but then it said something about some kind of protector or something not being loaded, some error because of that07:10
intelikeyenzo ok i think the error is from not being able to access the other partitions.  lets do this.    "sudo chroot /mnt "  and  then  "cd /dev/ && MAKEDEV hd "     then ls hd*  to confirm it created the other inodes.07:10
enzowill do07:10
yuriyi think i could spend hours just mousing over the window buttons on edgy07:10
nonicknamewhere do i start asking questions?07:11
intelikeyyuriy ah something else for me to gripe about...07:11
intelikeynonickname you just did.07:11
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yuriyintelikey: why gripe?07:11
nonicknameaside from that one...07:11
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draikintelikey07:11
draikthis is my desktop07:11
draikenzo is my laptop07:12
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intelikeyok.07:12
tj_I enabled the repository montone sylvester stalone crap07:12
nonicknameto make matters worse, i cant connect to the internet07:12
draiksays   /sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices07:12
draikafter I did            cd /dev/ && MAKEDEV hd07:12
intelikeydraik and ls shows two or more ?07:13
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tj_robotgeek?07:13
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intelikeywarning is not equal error07:13
intelikeyW != E07:13
robotgeektj_: cool.07:13
blfisherWhen using iptables to masquerade my LAN computers, I can surf the internet from the LAN but cannot get connected to IRC from the LAN07:13
tj_what I do now?07:13
blfisherDoes anyone have any ideas as to why this would be happning?07:13
tj_help me07:13
robotgeektj_: next install sun-java5-bin07:13
tj_where I get?07:13
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robotgeektj_: "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin" in a terminal, or install using adept07:14
draikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2194707:14
draik^intelikey07:14
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nonicknamealright.. the death of startx looks something like this: fatal server error: (ee) fglrx(0): === [r200dalsetcontrollerconfigforremap]  === cwddc controllersetconfig failed: 6 - 0; xio: fatal io error 104 (connection reset by peer) on x server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.07:14
tj_ok07:14
tj_it's getting it07:14
Healot!info sun-java5-jre07:14
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB07:14
Ademanis there a way to set the packages that the liveCD include07:15
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Ademans07:15
Healot!info sun-java5-jdk07:15
ubotusun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB07:15
Zambouliehow do i kill adept in console07:15
Ademantj_: don't install it with adept, it freezes adept07:15
Zambouliekillall adept?07:15
tj_ok07:15
intelikeynonickname i know that error about null berry well.  i added a line in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh    "chmod 777 /dev/null "     but i can't advise you to do that cause i'll get in trubble with the *buntu team.07:15
nonicknameah07:16
tj_what now, after the konsole thing?07:16
nonicknameany ideas about why it happens?07:16
intelikeydraik so now try the   grub-install /dev/hda    again.07:17
draikwill do07:17
draiksudo?07:17
intelikeyno07:17
draikok07:17
intelikeyall went that time without error ?07:17
draikseems like it did07:18
intelikeygood.07:18
draikexcept for that minor "disclaimer" of the XFS filesystem07:18
draikInstallation finished. No error reported07:18
intelikeynow nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the entry for (hd1,0)07:18
draikso I think it's good to go now07:18
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draikummm07:19
robotgeektj_: java should have installed. check dpkg -i sun-java5-bin07:19
draikintelikey, shouldn't I be looking in /mnt/hda6/boot/grub/menu.lst          ?07:19
draikthat's where my original is located07:19
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draikIt's there!!!07:20
Zambouliecan someone walk me through the XGL installation plz!07:20
nonicknamelol07:20
intelikeydraik not if you are still in the chroot.  but yes if you've exited already.07:20
draikdidn't exit07:20
intelikeythat's what chroot does.  it changes  /07:20
draikI am in /boot/grub/menu.lst and I can see it there07:20
draikoic07:21
draikkew07:21
draikso it's there07:21
draikdo I save it somewhere or anything?07:21
nonicknamei just tried to do a ctrl+alt+f7 and it brought me to a screen with two white squares and a flashing underscore07:21
intelikeythere is also    pivotroot   which changes / system wide.07:21
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draikinteresting... when would I use pivotroot?07:22
tj_frostwire!07:22
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draikintelikey, what is my next command?07:23
draikor am I done?07:23
intelikeydraik if there is an entry for  hd0,0 windows   hd0,5 linux    hd1,0 linux    you should be set.07:23
draikit's all there07:24
intelikeyunless that ntfs on sda is also bootable then add it.07:24
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draiknope07:24
draiksda is all backup07:24
intelikeyk exit exit exit07:24
intelikeyreboot.07:24
obf213anyone know how i ge to character map07:24
nonicknamehow can i make the default boot go into text mode?07:24
draikthank you intelikey07:24
intelikeynp07:25
robotgeektj_: you would just "sudo dpkg -i frostwire.deb""07:25
intelikeynow if draik comes back and says he is removing the linux partitions  i'll become a stalker..............07:25
robotgeekintelikey: lol07:25
enzorelax intelikey07:26
nonicknameintelikey: i want text mode at boot :P07:26
obf213anyone know if kubuntu comes default with a character map07:26
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enzoI'll do them when you /quit or /part07:26
intelikeytwice in one night would be to much.07:26
enzoit would07:26
enzobut I'm not a linux quitter cuz of something like this07:26
enzoI would if I couldn't get anything accomplished with linux07:26
enzobut since that's not the case07:27
intelikeynonickname append   1  to the kernel line.07:27
robotgeekintelikey: take some time off, dont become a victim of support burnout07:27
enzoummm intelikey07:27
enzoError 17 again07:27
intelikeyrobotgeek been there a few times.....07:27
intelikeyenzo no you'r lying.  i don't beleave it.07:27
enzoit is07:28
nonicknameintelikey: thanks07:28
intelikeycrap really.07:28
enzoI'm not07:28
enzoyup07:28
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obf213hey intelikey how do i choose which type of java i want to use07:28
enzowhat would happen if I mount the hda6 and add hdb1?07:28
obf213i had frostwire and it wouldnt open it said i had the wrong java07:29
enzomanually07:29
obf213then but i had the current version and i changed the section or smething in console but it somehow reverted07:29
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intelikeyobf213 i have no idea.07:30
robotgeekobf213: i think update-alternatives07:30
enzointelikey, would that work?07:30
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obf213robot geek i think that is wht i used07:32
jake1is there a program that is equivalent to Microsoft Outlook for Kubuntu07:32
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jake1?07:32
obf213kmail07:33
obf213robotgeek do you know the syntax,07:33
intelikeyenzo you should test each option and see which if any work     or is the error 17 before you get a menu ?07:33
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enzobefore I get a menu07:35
intelikeythe google search seems to say that either   /boot/grub/menu.lst or /boot/grub/device.map one is wrong.   bad partition addressing.    so recheck there.07:35
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obf213!java07:35
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:35
jake1obf213 will that be able to sync with calenders on Entourage and Outlook07:36
thomascan anyone tell me why my wireless will get an ip from the network with 128 wep, but won't access any computers on the newtork or the internet?07:36
obf213jake1 i don't know07:36
enzointelikey, I overwrote the GRUB on hda607:36
enzoI hope that works07:36
enzoif not, I saved a backup07:36
enzoto roll-back07:36
intelikeyenzo you can compare   fdisk -l    with the listing carefully to make sure you don't have a bad address in one of them07:37
hitjimso does *buntu not automatically upgrade to the latest kernel?07:37
hitjimi thought it was at *15, but i'm still at *1207:37
enzorebooted07:37
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enzoAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH07:37
enzostill with the Error 1707:38
thomasanyone? why would my wireless "connect" to the network, but not access anything on it?07:38
intelikeyenzo yeah do test other menu itoms tho07:38
enzowhat other menu items?07:38
intelikeymaybe windows and the other linux07:38
intelikeysee if they boot07:38
enzonothing else has changed other than the addition of this HDD07:38
enzoI can't boot into anything else07:39
enzoI get the error prior to my boot list07:39
intelikeyk  then you need to look in those two files.07:39
enzoit's about to load my GRUB menu list and then I get the ERROR 1707:39
intelikey^^07:39
enzowhat two files?07:40
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intelikeysomething is mis-addressed in menu.lst  or device.map is bad07:40
intelikeyin hda6 /boot/grub/07:40
enzook07:40
enzoWhat would I be looking for?07:41
tj_I'm trying to manage abyss web server07:41
tj_it keeps saying listening problem07:41
intelikeybad address in one of the entries.07:41
tj_?07:41
enzopastebin?07:41
intelikeyyeah07:42
enzok07:42
obf213how do i open up a .jar file07:43
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tj_anyone?07:43
draik!pastebin07:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:44
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draikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2194807:44
draik^intelikey07:44
intelikeyif you type name first then you don't have to use two lines  :)07:45
sberlahello07:45
sberlai'm italian07:45
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obf213how do i run a .jar file07:45
sberlai'm question07:45
draikintelikey, here is what I have for my device.map07:45
tj_?07:45
draik(hd0)/dev/hda07:45
draik(hd1)/dev/sda07:45
sberlabuilding module07:45
intelikeydraik there it is.07:46
sberlato ADSL modem07:46
sberla`/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386/arch/i386/Makefile'.  Stop.          07:46
draik?07:46
intelikeydon't you see it.07:46
sberla                                                   make[3] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386'          07:46
sberla                                                   make[2] : *** [eagle-usb.ko]  Error 2                                        07:46
sberla                                                   make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/eagle-usb/driver'             07:46
draikname first?07:46
intelikeyno07:46
draikinstead of two lines?07:46
intelikeyno07:46
draikhda /dev/sda07:46
intelikey<draik> (hd1)   /dev/sda  <--- that's your 1707:46
draiksorry07:46
sberla                                                   make[1] : *** [binary-modules]  Error 2                                      07:46
sberla                                                   make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/eagle-usb'                    07:46
sberla                                                   make: *** [kdist_image]  Error 207:46
draikyea07:46
sberlaerror??07:46
intelikeyshould be     <draik> (hd1)   /dev/hdb07:47
draikchange it to read hd1 /dev/hdb107:47
draik?07:47
draikok07:47
draikwait07:47
draikshould be /dev/hdb   only, right?07:47
intelikeyyep] 07:47
draikk07:47
draikdone07:47
intelikeywell (hd1)   /dev/hdb07:47
draikreboot?07:47
draikyeah07:47
intelikeyyep07:47
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draikwill do07:47
draikI hope I don't get any more Error 1707:48
intelikeyme too07:48
enzocross your fingers, toes, and anything else you can07:48
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enzoexcept for wires!07:48
Jucatohey enzo!07:48
enzoyo07:48
Ash-FoxIs there a decent way to determine what additional packages I have installed ontop of the kubuntu defaults (I tend to install a lot of things overtime that I need for the spur of the moment, then I forget to remove them)07:49
intelikeyenzo you be quiet.    i don't want to here form you.   only draik07:49
enzoJucato, still working on the issue with my new HDD07:49
sberlaenzo sei italiano?07:49
Jucatoenzo: where's draik?07:49
intelikey:)07:49
thomasis there a network manager applet for kde?07:49
enzosberla, no sorry. It's a nick short for Enzo Matrix07:49
enzogoogle images for him07:49
enzoAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH07:49
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enzoError 1707:50
sberlagente07:50
sberlaqualcuno mi sa dare un info07:50
Jucato!it07:50
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:50
obf213hey i opened a .jar file using the command java -jar jarfile07:50
obf213in the konsole07:51
enzoanything wrong with my menu.lst   intelikey?07:51
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obf213is there a way i can openit without having to type that any time07:51
enzoJucato, enzo is not registered07:51
Jucatolol07:51
Jucatosorry07:51
enzoho07:51
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enzo_ok07:52
intelikeydraik i'm going over your menu.lst now.07:52
enzo_and? Anything oddy?07:52
Jucatowhere's draik? ehehe07:52
enzo_draik is undergoing surgery07:52
matt___Hi! Does anyone know a IRC for Kmail?07:53
Jucatomatt___: try #kontact ?07:53
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matt___hi Jucato!  Thanks!07:54
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draikok07:55
Jucatowhoa! is that you, draik?07:55
draiklets try this again07:55
draikyup07:55
Jucatolol07:55
draikbut I'm on the live CD07:55
sberlahello07:55
sberlai'm italian07:55
draikhello07:55
sberlai'm question07:55
draik!it > sberla07:55
sberlacompiling Driver eagleusb07:55
sberlasend shell command: module-assistant build eagle-usb07:56
sberlaError => http://rafb.net/paste/results/SN994z10.html07:57
sberlawhois problem?07:57
draik!it07:57
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:57
intelikeydraik whats this entry all about ?07:57
intelikeytitle           Other operating systems:07:57
intelikeyroot07:57
draikdunno07:57
draikthat's what I was wondering about too07:58
Jucatointelikey: that's just a title separator07:58
draikI didn't have it like that before07:58
draikyup07:58
draikbut the thing is that Debian wasn't under OTHER OS07:58
mkquist_intelikey-that would be for non linux os07:58
draikright07:58
intelikeyJucato the root being empty doesn't hurt it ?07:58
mkquist_like windowz07:58
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draikwho07:58
Jucatointelikey: yes07:58
draik*whoa07:58
draikit's empty07:58
draiklink?07:58
obf213anyone know how i can open a java program w/o having to type in commands in console evertime07:58
draikI hate these reboots to bad GRUBs07:59
Jucatointelikey draik: the root line is empty so that it won't do anything if you accidentaly pressed Enter07:59
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draikwait.. Jucato, so it should be empty?07:59
Jucatodraik: yes. definitely. absolutely08:00
draikwait08:00
draikmy root lines aren't empty08:00
draikits to choose a hdd/partition08:00
Jucatodraik: only for the title separator thingy08:01
draikit's not supposed to be blank08:01
intelikeythat one below "title           Other operating systems:"08:01
draikwhich one?08:01
draikI don't see any of them as blank08:01
Jucatothe one intelikey mentioned08:01
draiknevermind08:01
Jucato"title Other operating systems:" then the "root" line below it should be blank08:01
draikI thought the "root" that was listed under the OSs08:01
intelikeyline 133 on your pastebin08:02
draikyeah, that's supposed to be blank08:02
Jucatodraik: can you post the link to the pastebin for me? I just came08:02
Jucatocame in*08:02
Jucatogod! did that sound sooo wrong08:02
draikbash.org08:02
Jucato @_@08:03
draikummm... well, as I usually say... whatever floats your titanic08:03
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draikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2194808:04
intelikeydraik i don't see anything in the menu.lst you pasted that should 17 it.   cat /boot/grub/device.man again.08:04
draikwill do08:05
Jucatohm...08:05
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JucatoError 17, eh?08:05
draikyup08:06
JucatoSo which one is your main OS? hd1,0 or hd0,5? (I'm guessing XP isn't your main OS)08:06
draikintelikey, no such file or directory08:06
intelikeyJucato grub is installed from hda6 on his box08:07
Jucatohow about just reinstalling GRUB, using hd0,5's settings, then just manually editing hd0,5's menu.lst to add the new OS on hd1,008:07
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draikUmmm.... your DCC isn't going08:08
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draikintelikey ^08:08
intelikeyJucato we just did.08:08
Jucatolol....  @_@08:08
intelikeydraik i guess you have a firewall up...08:08
draikintelikey, did you mean device.map08:08
intelikeyheay08:09
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nonicknamenow wth.. i did a shutdown now, then it stopped, and i did an exit, and it went back to the kubuntu login screen =/08:09
intelikeyyes draik08:09
Jucato"sudo grub" && "find /boot/grub/stage1" && "root (hd0,5)" && "setup (hd0)" ??08:09
draik(hd0)   /dev/hda08:10
draik(hd1)   /dev/sdb08:10
intelikeyi thought you fixed that ?08:10
draikI did08:10
intelikeyno you didn't.08:10
draikwhoops08:10
intelikeyyou typo'd it.  bub.08:11
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intelikeythat's it.  you are either too tired for me to help you   or i'm to tired to try any more tonight....08:12
Jucatoor you're both too tired to even make sense of anything at all....08:12
draikactually, I don't think my gf would appreciate that ATM08:12
Jucatoeheheh08:12
Jucato @_@08:12
Jucatome and my comments...08:12
draikok08:13
draikhere we go08:13
draikREBOOT!08:13
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Jucatowhere?? where's the show?? is ReBoot on?08:13
obf213sweet08:13
enzo_I wish it was08:13
Jucatoenzo_: what did you do to draik again!08:13
Jucatolol08:13
enzo_but it's kew cuz I have season 3 and 4 on DVD08:13
obf213i have a quick question now, how do i open up a .jar file without having to cd to the directgory and running java -jar jarfile08:13
enzo_Jucato, if you know what's good for you, you'll just turn around and keep walking08:14
Jucatoenzo_: i was walking away from you already. If I turn around and keep walking, I'll walk into you... @_@08:14
enzo_moment of truth08:14
enzo_....08:14
obf213anyone?08:14
enzo_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH08:14
enzo_Error 17 again08:14
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=== Jucato is not familiar with jars..... only with cookies...
nonicknamehaha08:15
obf213lol08:15
wolfmanzHow do i move e-mail and setting from one thunderbird client to another?08:15
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obf213but for real does anyone know, becuase i have this program that i use to dl songs off the local network and i want to to just click and open it without having to run the whole directory/ java -jar thing08:15
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enzo_Jucato, you're lucky if you get rotten tomatoes08:16
=== obf213 wants some help maybe. yeah that'd be sweet
Jucatohm....08:16
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nonicknameobf.. try ark?08:17
Jucatoobf213: you could probably try to associate .jar files with the command?08:17
nonicknameor whatever it's called..08:17
Jucatoenzo_: ouch!! you could have at least thawed it first08:17
enzo_Jucato, I could, but where'd be the fun in that? Where, I ask you, where?08:18
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Jucatononickname: give that back!!!08:19
Jucatoobf213: can't Ark open it?08:19
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Jucatobye!08:20
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draikHey08:20
obf213no ark cant open a .jar file08:21
obf213but does anyone know for sure, intelikey are you still around08:21
Healotbecause unzip is not installed08:21
Healot!info unzip08:21
ubotuunzip: De-archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.52-6ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 143 kB, installed size 332 kB08:21
obf213Healot is that for me?08:21
HealotJAR is technically a zipped (zip info) file08:22
obf213unzip is installed already08:23
obf213all ark does it open it like a directory and i c all sorts of iles and stuff08:23
Healotreally08:23
obf213but i just want to run the prog.08:23
Healotyeah, that's what;s you suppose to see08:23
Healot!info sun-java5-jre08:23
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB08:23
Healotyou need JRE to RUN a Java Jar file :-08:24
obf213Healot i can run the file,08:24
obf213i have to open konsole cd to my desktop and then type in the this command java -jar jarfile08:24
obf213i was trying to figure out a way to circumvent all that08:24
Healotso, what do you actually want?08:24
obf213maybe code that in so does it automatically or something08:24
obf213so i dont have to open console cd to my desktop and type in code everytime i want to run a prog i will be using often08:25
Healotit's on the MIME setting at KDE Control Panel08:25
Healotatm, it is known not to work :)08:25
obf213Healot thanks man08:26
Healotbtw, an open terminal is very handy08:27
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ezuHi all, new user here: when I switch user's in ubuntu, the programs sleep and I can't get it back. What do I need to do?08:31
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obf213how do i add stuff to a root folder08:32
obf213its denying me where can i enter my password08:32
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obf213do i have to add files in console or something08:34
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obf213!root08:35
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:35
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obf213how can i add fiels to root folders08:41
chris_anyone installed, or know the process of, installing xgl on kubuntu?08:42
chris_i've worked my way through it and gotten stuck08:42
Healot!xgl08:42
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:42
Healotbtw, for general xgl information join #xgl08:43
chris_ah but the guide i'm looking at told me to use glxcompmgr08:43
chris_and it's not installing right08:44
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chris_i type make install, and tells me that there's nothing to be done08:44
obf213how do i add a file to usr/bin08:44
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Healothttp://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  >> chris_08:45
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chris_thanks08:46
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Healotread the factoid for commonly asked questions :008:47
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chris_where's that?08:47
chris_lol08:47
Healot!help08:48
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:48
Healotubotu is our friendly robot for ubuntu channels08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is our friendly robot for ubuntu channels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
Healotyet dumb sometimes08:48
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chris_ok, i'm halfway through the first guide, will there be any lasting damage if i switch to the other guide? so far i've dld and installed a new xorg. I don't know what that is or does...08:50
chris_and configured it specific to my graphics card08:50
Healot!display08:50
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:50
obf213!rootfolders08:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rootfolders - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
obf213Healot any idea how i can save a file to a root folder like /usr/bin08:51
Healotobf213: save what kind of file?08:51
obf213my jar file08:51
obf213so i can it from there like the rst of my programs08:51
Healotthe directory /usr/bin is specifically for global user binaries, obf21308:52
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chris_!xorg08:52
obf213o08:52
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:52
chris_damnit08:52
HealotJAR file? keep somewhere else, obf213?08:52
chris_so xorg is just a type of x?08:52
Healothome folder maybe, obf21308:52
obf213yeah i guess08:53
Healotchris_: Xorg is X server implementation by Xorg :)08:53
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obf213Healot thats not it.08:53
Healotthe prior used by many distro was X11Free by XFree8608:53
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obf213i copied and pasted a file from usr/bin/ back into usr/bin and changed the name off course but permission is denied08:54
obf213i need to go root somehonw08:54
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chris_!multiverse08:54
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:54
Healotobf213: if you need to copy to root-owned directory, you need the root permission to copy08:54
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JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:54
Healot!root > obf21308:54
chris_thanks08:54
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Kreamhow do I find out from the command line what files a package has installed ?09:03
Healotdpkg -l <package name>09:03
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Healotman dpkg for more syntax and switches09:04
JucatoHealot: doesn't that just show the package name, what it has installed?09:04
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chris_!composite manager09:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about composite manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:04
chris_do i need composite manager to run xgl?09:04
chris_what does it do?09:05
cummradhi every body09:05
hsn_i have problems with bacula-sd (package from web, not from distro) it refuses to start at boot time because /var/run/bacula directory is missing, how can i create it every boot?09:05
JucatoKream: I think Healot meant "dpkg -L <package_name>"09:05
obf213healot thanks09:06
cummradfrom where i can get RealPlyer Plugin ??09:07
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obf213i managed to save the file where i wanted it and and assigned a menu button for it, except it never opens unless i right click nad choose place in run dialog.09:07
obf213!mp3 >cummrad09:07
Kreamahh :09:08
Kream:)09:08
Kreamthanks :)09:08
cummradno no .. i mean  *.ram  or *.rm09:08
obf213cummrad go to the link09:09
obf213it explains real player as weel09:09
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Jucatocummrad: once the libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs are installed, you can play .rm and .rmvb files in Kaffeine09:09
Healotcum, cummrad09:09
Jucatoerr... that doesn't sound so right, Healot..09:10
Jucato:-D09:10
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HealotI work as IT executive cum peon :)09:10
Jucatolol09:11
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Healotwell, that's a reality09:11
Healotat this damn office, have to do things on my own09:11
cummradaha mmmmm .. all right .. i'll go to the links which obf213 gave it to me09:11
cummradthank for help :)09:12
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_rince_mrgn09:13
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_rince_is last weeks problem with the xserver update fixed?09:13
Jucato_rince_: yep09:13
Jucato12 hours after the incident, a patched/fixed upgrade was made available09:14
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_rince_so it's safe to upgrade again, fine :)09:15
_rince_thx Jucato09:15
chris_hi, i'm still having a problem with xgl. i installed it, but when i choose it from the session log in screen and log in, nothing happens09:16
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obf213i have another question, if  i have a menu button that's command is a file, how come when i click the button the file nevr opens but when i place into run dialog it opens09:21
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obf213whts a workpath09:26
obf213!workpath09:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about workpath - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:26
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omeowHi, how can I make a screenshot of my KDM theme?09:39
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hsn_PrintSreen key09:41
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cummrador try to press    ALT+PrintScreen09:43
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cummradWOW .. It works :)09:49
chris_when i start a session with xgl it hangs, can i end that session from say another tty without rebooting?09:49
Healotyes09:51
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chris_hwo lol?09:51
Healottype sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop09:52
Healotin the other tty of course09:52
Healotwtf with the laugh anyways09:52
chris_idk i lol at everything09:52
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chris_but even though i'm running xlg, stop kdm?09:52
Healotyup09:52
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Healotrunning "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" will stop all the X-related applications09:53
chris_kool tahnks09:54
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HealotKool is kool09:55
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n00bsaib0t#rm -rf /09:55
Jucatolol09:55
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Healottobias boon?09:55
Hobbseedont run that commant09:56
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Jucatotsk tsk tsk...09:56
JucatoHobbsee: hi!!!09:56
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Hobbseehey Jucato09:56
Jucatowho was that?09:56
HobbseeJucato: some idiot who ran that in -motu first.09:56
Jucatohmph09:56
HobbseeJucato: of course, no one in -motu will run that command - they're developers09:57
blankeushey guys. i have just done a server install. i just want to install kde and have x11vnc access anything else i should do besides install kde and x11vnc ?09:57
Jucatolol09:57
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Jucatobtw, that command won't work anyway.09:57
Jucatothe "#" means nothing unless you're root....09:57
HobbseeJucato: true that.09:57
HobbseeJucato: there are people who will just see that they get denied, and stick sudo in front of it anyway09:58
Jucatoehehe....09:58
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rouzic_ausentealegrate, /me ha vuelto09:58
Jucatosomeone seemed to have entered #ubuntu-ph and posted the same command, only this time, he/she/it is talking to the resident bot...09:58
HobbseeJucato: yeah, not sure why.09:59
HobbseeJucato: could well be an anon proxy09:59
Jucatowhois n00bsaib0t09:59
Hobbseeyeah, them09:59
Hobbsee *!*@210.5.70.22909:59
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JucatoHobbsee: we've been getting a lot of um... how would you call it... spam? lately10:00
JucatoHobbsee: same IP in #ubuntu-ph10:00
HobbseeJucato: you think this is a lot of spam?  bah.  rubbish :P10:00
Ethoswhy is it when it try to "apt-get install cvs build-essential bison flex-old libasound2-dev x-window-system-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libfreetype6-dev libxrender-dev libttf2 libttf-dev msttcorefonts libfontconfig1-dev"10:00
HobbseeJucato: yeah, same as in -motu too10:00
Ethosi get the message "10:00
EthosE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)10:00
EthosE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?10:00
JucatoHobbsee: I mean the flooders the other day10:00
Jucatohm..10:00
HobbseeEthos: no "sudo" in front of the command10:00
Ethos(Sorry for the spam guys)10:01
HobbseeJucato: true that.  usually it's people running the exploit, and flooders.10:01
Ethosok i'll try that. Thanks10:01
Ethos:)10:01
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EthosE: Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev :(10:01
EthosI suck at linux!!10:01
omeowAnybody know how to make a screenshot of KDM? My machine crashed and I lost some of the conversation.10:01
omeowEthos, why do you want to use command-line tools?10:02
HobbseeEthos: try installing everything but that.  i think that package changed name.10:02
Hobbseeomeow: because they work?10:02
Ethosthankyou10:02
Ethosappreciate it :)10:02
Hobbseeomeow: something complicated with xnest, and the like10:02
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Phreakyshi10:03
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Phreakyscan someone help me with xgl?10:04
Ethostrying to get steam working with ubuntu, I think it's a bit above me considering my poor linux skills :)10:04
Phreakysyou need wine for that10:04
Ethosyep10:04
Hobbsee!xgl10:04
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:04
Ethosand the winecvs.sh10:04
Phreakyswine is ugly10:04
Ethoshttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+G%20ames10:05
Ethosi'm following that guide10:05
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JucatoHobbsee: is it possible to track down this um... "rm" bot? he's using a different nick in #ubuntu-ph, but same hostmask10:06
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chris_phreakys_: good luck with xgl, i still can't get mine working10:09
Phreakysheh10:10
Phreakystnx10:10
Phreakyssame problem here10:10
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Phreakysyou have ati?10:10
chris_nope nvidia10:10
chris_mine hangs when i choose it as the session :(10:10
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Phreakyssame here10:10
chris_which guide are u using?10:11
Phreakysi tried an automated kubuntu script first10:11
omeowlolxgl10:11
Phreakyshttp://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=2006060217365863210:11
Phreakysthis one and10:11
Phreakyshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl10:11
Phreakysthis one10:11
chris_i tried that second one, didn't work :(10:11
Phreakysyou may want to try that automated script10:11
Phreakyshttp://www.compiz.net/topic-689-xgl-kubuntu-automatic-xgl-installation10:12
chris_kool thanks10:12
Phreakysmake sure you got all packages installed first, and then dpkg that file10:12
Phreakysit worked once for me, but its *beeping* up my ati config now10:12
Phreakysjust remove it when you have the same problem10:13
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chris_umm what packages? different sites tell me different ones10:13
phreakys_ehm10:13
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chris_the compiz ones it requries?10:13
phreakys_you need compiz cgwd cgwd-themer10:13
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phreakys_and some other stuff. i made a post at the end of that thread on compiz.net with all the packages10:14
agtHey does anyone here use the svn version of amarok? I have a problem installing the dependencies - I posted about it here > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1435812#post143581210:14
phreakys_required10:14
chris_kk thanks, but i can't dl the themer10:14
chris_what repository is it on?10:14
paines!upstart10:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:15
phreakys_one of the 3 quinn repos10:15
omeowI didn't know XGL was stable already.10:15
chris_kk i'll have a look10:15
chris_it's not really10:15
phreakys_ah no10:15
phreakys_sorry10:15
omeowNo wonder you're having trouble setting it up then.10:15
phreakys_its allready in cgwd included i believe10:15
chris_kool10:16
phreakys_compiz-themer is depreciated10:16
chris_xgl comes packaged with open suse i think10:16
Ethoscan someone help me install x-window-system-dev?10:17
Ethoslol10:17
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Jucato!qemu > Jucato10:19
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Hobbsee!find x-window-system-dev10:22
ubotuPackage/file x-window-system-dev does not exist in dapper10:22
HobbseeEthos: you want xorg-dev, i suspect10:23
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kyaneoshi10:30
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kyaneosis necessary to have dbus installed in a common KDE 3.5.4 installation??10:31
Jucatokyaneos: I think so10:31
kyaneosJucato: but nothing deppends on it10:33
Jucatohm... Hobbsee any thoughts on this?10:33
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kyaneosi am having problems with my kubuntu and i suppossed it is caused by that10:34
Jucatokyaneos: it will be moot eventually. D-Bus is replacing DCOP in KDE 4...10:34
kyaneosi do not understand moot10:34
Jucatoerr...10:34
Phreakysanother xgl tutor => http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Xgl10:35
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Hobbseekyaneos: if nothing depends on it, including kubuntu-desktop, then no, you shouldnt have to10:35
Jucatokyaneos: it won't matter eventually...10:35
kyaneosHobbsee: i have not installed kubuntu-desktop10:35
HobbseeJucato: then we'll just update k-d to fix it10:35
JucatoHobbsee: yeah. I think k-d install dbus by default?10:36
kyaneosand do i need to install acpi-support on a desktop computer without functions like hibernate, ...??10:36
kyaneosyes, it installs it by default10:37
Jucatokyaneos: a lot of stuff are installed by the default Kubuntu installation that some people don't need10:37
HobbseeJucato: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop | grep dbus - yes it does10:37
Jucatokyaneos: it's done to make sure that Kubuntu will run on as many different hardware comibinations possible10:37
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kyaneosok10:38
kyaneosi understand10:38
JucatoI personally have no need for DBus, ACPI, CUPS, HP, powernowd, Bluetooth, etc..10:38
Jucatobut I just keep them coz I'm too lazy to remove those... maybe one day I could make a system clean up10:39
kyaneosxD10:39
Hobbseei found out why we install bluetooth stuff, actually10:39
Hobbseebluetooth keyboards :P10:39
kyaneosthank you very much10:39
HobbseeJucato: painful for upgrading if you do that10:39
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JucatoHobbsee: yeah, specially with kubuntu-desktop gone...10:39
HobbseeJucato: yep10:40
HobbseeJucato: mind you, i'm not sure if that even works anyway - it's on my "poke people to test" list10:40
JucatoI did a server/minimal install then installed kde-core instead. everything was faster, but a lot of stuff that might be important didn't get installed, notably HAL10:40
blankeus!x11ssh10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x11ssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
Jucatomaybe I'll try doing a Breezy minimal install with kde-core, then dist-upgrade to Dapper...10:41
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blankeus!vncssh10:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vncssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:43
Jucatowb Hobbsee10:43
blankeus!vnc10:43
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.10:43
Hobbseety10:44
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Jucato??? powerplay?? ehehe10:52
robsorry, tired :)10:53
Jucato^_^10:53
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agtwhat package should i install to get the KDE headers?11:03
HobbseeJucato: separate partition11:03
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JucatoHobbsee: got yah! is it useable/stable enough that I could use it for a while? or only for short periods?11:04
HobbseeJucato: i've been using it for the last few months.  there has been breakage though, adn i wouldnt get rid of dapper11:04
Hobbseebesides, init-crack fun soon11:05
Jucatoyeah I won't get rid of Dapper, definitely11:06
Jucatojust want to take a peek, test, get updated, etc.11:06
Jucatohm... doesn't kde-devel contain the KDE headers?11:06
agtJucato: possibly... when i try to install that, it says there are unmet dependencies11:07
Jucatoagt: is the universe component of the repositories enabled?11:08
agtJucato: is that    "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse"?11:09
Jucatoyep11:09
Hobbseekde-devel would be in main11:09
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Hobbseeagt: can you pastebin the full error you get there please?11:09
agtsure11:09
agt1 sec11:09
Jucatoyay Hobbseeto the rescue!11:09
Jucatoagt use pastebin11:09
Jucato!pastebin11:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:09
Jucato!vmware > Jucato11:11
HobbseeJucato: it's more useful if you can test with proper hardware11:11
Hobbseerather than in just vmware11:11
agthttp://pastebin.com/778661 - I'm actually running XFCE and trying to install the SVN version of amarok. I believe the package i may need is kdelibs-dev11:11
JucatoHobbsee: oh yes. I was just researching on how to share with XP  on VMWare ehehe11:11
Hobbseeagt: can you try and install those packages separately, and see where the problem is?11:12
HobbseeJucato: ahhh...11:12
Jucatoagt: you can install Amarok 1.4.2 already from a special repository made by imbradon11:12
Phreakyshttp://www.compiz.net/topic-3024-xgl-compiz-kde-session-for-mepis-nvidia11:12
Phreakysanother xgl tutorial with additional kde startup script11:12
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Jucato!amarok11:13
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/11:13
Healoti r baboon11:14
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albackerwhat do the dvd of kubuntu have ?11:14
albackerthey have other apps ?11:14
agtHobbsee: Try this one - http://pastebin.com/77866411:14
Hobbseealbacker: all of the stuff in universe on cd11:14
agtJucato: I'd rather be able to get the SVN so I can be 'bleeding edge' :p11:15
albackerHobbsee, well, i don't think i'll get the DVD, CD is much more better, i can always have the rest with apt-get :)11:15
Hobbseelibdbus-1-dev: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (= 0.60-6ubuntu8) but 0.62-bmp1ubuntu1 is to be installed11:15
albackerdoes kubuntu accept hardwares as easy as ubuntu ?!11:15
Jucatoehehehe11:15
Hobbseealbacker: exactly11:15
Hobbseealbacker: should do.11:15
Hobbseeagt: thanks.  can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please?11:15
Hobbseeagt: and this is dapper?11:16
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Phreakyswoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo11:17
Phreakysit works11:17
agtHobbsee: Yeah, Dapper - http://pastebin.com/778665 << sources11:17
jott_agt: remember that the ubuntu amarok deb's have patched path so when you do a default install things get "mixed"11:17
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Hobbseejott_: we do?11:17
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jott_Hobbsee: yes .. amarokapp and stuff is in /usr/lib/amarok rather than $PREFIX/bin11:18
Phreakyshm, to soon11:18
Hobbseeagt: ah yes, recipe for breakage.11:18
Hobbseeagt: pastebin apt-cache policy libdbus-1-2 please11:18
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jott_agt: do "apt-get build-dep amarok"11:19
Hobbseeagt: and pastebin apt-cache policy libdbus-1-dev11:19
Hobbseejott_: it was - some of the binaries got moved to /usr/bin11:19
Hobbseejott_: most of it is in /usr/lib/amarok, yes11:19
albackerdoes kubuntu run slower than ubuntu ?11:19
jott_Hobbsee: well just the launcher wrapper?!... or since when?11:20
Hobbseealbacker: no11:20
jott_or the brandon packages?11:20
Hobbseejott_: amarokapp is in /usr/bin now - ah, since amarok 1.4.2, or just before11:20
Hobbseebrandon took my source, so yes11:20
albackeri mean, i have 3.0 ghz proc p4. 512mb ram, is it sufficient ?11:20
Hobbseealbacker: yep11:20
albackerHobbsee, i think it runs, with all eye-candies it has by default.11:20
agtHobbsee: http://pastebin.com/778666 :)11:20
albackeri think it runs slower *11:20
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Phreakyshm, i put a startup script in .kde/autostart, but it wont execute11:21
Phreakystried chmod +x startcompiz11:21
HobbseePhreakys: .kde/Autostart?11:21
Phreakysyea, that one11:21
jott_Hobbsee: well my svn deb's still put everything into /usr/lib/amarok like the 1.4.1 ;)...11:21
Phreakysi didnt use the dir in the chmod command11:21
Hobbseejott_: true that.11:21
jott_but it makes sense to have the app in path... as you can more easily launch gdb against it..11:22
Phreakysi must have done that wrong11:22
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albackerwhat packages does KDE have by deafult? is ther any list11:23
albacker?11:23
Hobbseeagt: can you pastebin apt-cache policy libavahi-client-dev and apt-cache policy kdelibs4-dev please?11:23
jottalbacker: apt-cache depends kde11:24
Hobbseeit's a local problem, i can see that much11:24
jott(so for the whole kde meta package.. kubuntu-desktop has not all kde)11:24
Jucatoalbacker: depends on which KDE metapackage you are looking at11:25
agtHobbsee: http://pastebin.com/77866811:25
albackerJucato, i was thinking of kubuntu CD. and what packages it had in, by default installation.11:25
Hobbseealbacker: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop11:25
Hobbseesigh.11:25
Jucatoalbacker: if you want a GUI version, type this in Konqueror: apt:/show?kubuntu-desktop11:26
albackerk11:26
albackerthnx11:26
jottalbacker: to get the "full list" do apt-cache --recurse depends kubuntu-desktop11:26
albackerk, ill see.11:26
Jucato"apt-cache --recurse depends  kubuntu-deskop > foo123" to put the output in a file named foo12311:27
Hobbseeagt: if you use the sources list in !repos, and apt-get update, do you still get the same problem?11:27
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Hobbseebetter still, i might just make you a new sources list11:28
Jucato!repos11:28
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:28
agt!easysource11:29
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:29
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Hobbseeagt: try the repos list at http://pastebin.com/778671 run sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get install kde-devel11:29
albackerany of you guys went from ubuntu to kubuntu ?11:30
albackeror better.. from Gnome to KDE.11:30
Jucatohm... I went from Breezy to Dapper. does that count? ehehe11:30
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RogueThunderEllo, anyone around... mildly compitent alteast willing to help a linux noob? heh...11:31
albackerJucato, :) wart to hoary; hoary to breezy; breezy to dapper;; forgot dapper to edgy :P11:31
Jucatolol11:31
Jucatoused Ubuntu/GNOME for almost a month...11:31
Jucato(probably not enough time to really get to know GNOME, but I didn't have the luxury of time...)11:32
albackerah, well i've used gnome from hoary.11:32
RogueThunderIm trying to install ndiswrapper, and i put in the command the directions say to use, and it doesnt find the commands... the main point being the "make" command...11:32
HobbseeRogueThunder: which version of ndiswrapper would you be using?11:32
Hobbseeand what guide would you be using?11:32
RogueThunder1.23, and the one on their own wiki11:33
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RogueThunderLets put it this way, im new enough to this that i had to look up the change directory command XD.11:33
agtHobbsee: Still the same problem unfortunately11:33
RogueThunderThough, ive operated in dos for extended periods of time...11:34
Hobbseeagt: darn.11:34
RogueThunderSo, im somewhat fermilar with, abeit incredibly different, command lines.11:34
Hobbsee!ndiswrapper11:34
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:34
HobbseeRogueThunder: ahh.  apt-get install build-essentials11:34
RogueThunderyeah see...11:34
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RogueThunderuh11:34
RogueThunderyeah11:34
RogueThunderlast i checked11:34
RogueThunderthat requires a net connection11:34
RogueThunderwhich, wihtout ndiswrapper11:35
RogueThunderi cant have on that computer11:35
Hobbsee  sudo apt-get install dh-make fakeroot gcc-3.4 build-essential11:35
Hobbseeit's on the cd11:35
RogueThunderah... ok well ill see... heh11:35
Hobbsee:)11:35
Jucatoerr.. Alternate Install CD only... iirc11:35
krautmoin11:36
RogueThunder"Couldnt find dh-make"11:36
RogueThunderI take it thats a problem.11:37
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RogueThunderHobbsee?11:38
mikkineed some help with my wireless connection11:38
Hobbsee!info dh-make11:38
ubotudh-make: tool that converts source archives into Debian package source. In component main, is optional. Version 0.40 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 380 kB11:38
HobbseeRogueThunder: right, try without it then.11:38
HobbseeRogueThunder: why *are* you compiling ndiswrapper anyway, by the way?11:39
HobbseeRogueThunder: tha'ts on the cd too11:39
RogueThundercouldnt find fakeroot...11:39
RogueThundereh? couldnt find it11:39
Hobbseeright, ignore that too then11:39
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Hobbseesudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils11:39
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RogueThunderuh yeah.. i dont think its checking the cd11:40
RogueThunderwhich, is in11:40
HobbseeRogueThunder: is the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list commented out?11:40
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RogueThunderum11:42
HobbseeRogueThunder: does it have a # in front of it, sorry11:42
RogueThunderim pretty sure everythings commented out in here...11:43
RogueThunderand heh i know what commented out is11:43
RogueThundernothing has anything that would suggest its assosiated with my dvd, or cdrw in here11:43
HobbseeRogueThunder: okay, run "sudo apt-cdrom add"11:43
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Hobbseethen sudo apt-get update11:43
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RogueThunderright right11:45
RogueThunderno crazy error messages yet ^.^11:45
RogueThunderand11:45
RogueThunderthe ndis install works11:45
RogueThunder^.^ thanks11:46
agtHobbsee: I think I'll just stick with a deb from that kubuntu repository. Thanks for your help m811:46
Hobbseeagt: okay11:46
jottaltough amarok svn finally reintroduced moodbar ;p11:47
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whateverI can use ftp, irc but can't  browse!!11:49
whateverwhats up?11:49
albackerwould you guys tell me to get kubuntu and do a fresh install or just install kubuntu-desktop, and some kde apps ?11:49
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whateverwget also gets stuck on "resolving google.com ..."11:50
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RogueThunderOoooh this sounds like a good thing. "Driver Present, Hardware Present"11:51
RogueThunder^.^11:51
HobbseeRogueThunder: yay :)11:51
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RogueThundernow to get this darn thing actualy working...11:52
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albackerhmm11:56
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albackerGnome is also a bit faster. Sure, I've encountered a few KDE distributions that are super-fast out-of-the-box (PCLinuxOS and Kubuntu, for example), but once I tweak them and install all the software I want and change up the themes and load in the icons I want, KDE inevitably becomes sluggish. When I click on an icon, it can take up to around 10 seconds for the application to launch.11:56
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RogueThunder...11:58
albackeri was reading this : http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome.php11:59
albackerand that's what came out.11:59
albackeri think i'll stick with gnome, but i'll download kubuntu .iso too.11:59
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RogueThunderThis is certainly interesting... this tutorial says the drivers are supposed to be in the /etc/ndiswrapper directory...12:00
RogueThunderThere is no such direcotry i can find...12:01
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mikkineed some help with my wireless connection12:05
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RogueThunderHeh, just... hopefully finishing up with my own figuring out of such.12:06
mikkido i need to install a driver12:06
RogueThunderwith.. much help12:06
RogueThunder*chuckles* yes12:06
RogueThundermostlikely12:06
RogueThunder!ndiswrapper12:07
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:07
RogueThunder^.^12:07
RogueThunderstart there...12:07
mikkiok12:07
RogueThunderthough, i found the one on ndiswrapper's sourceforge site more usefull12:07
RogueThunderndiswrapper isnt the driver itself, but it is required to use most, it is found on your disk if you didnt install it during install12:08
RogueThunderbasicaly if i understand it right, lets linux hijack a good ol windows driver12:09
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cox377Hello all12:15
cox377i was wondering if it's possible to connect to a windows xp remote desktop from a kubuntu machine?12:15
jott!info krdc12:18
RogueThunderi well imagine its possible12:18
ubotukrdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 490 kB, installed size 956 kB12:18
RogueThunderi doubt its easy.12:18
tn3270i think i have done that before: using tightvnc server on xp and krdc on kubuntu12:18
RogueThunderor... i could be wrong12:18
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tn3270just need to configure the server part, depending on which *vnc server you use12:19
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ubuntuhola12:44
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RogueJediXAnyone have any idea whether upgrading to Windows XP from within Windows 2k, screws up GRUB?12:48
HobbseeRogueJediX: i would expect so.  you'd need to reinstall !grub12:50
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RogueJediXCrud. How would I access Linux to do that, then?12:51
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Hobbsee!grub12:51
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:51
HobbseeRogueJediX: top link :)12:52
RogueJediXHandy. Thanks.12:52
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kristinahow to get german support?12:53
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RogueJediXkristina: #kubuntu-de ,I think the channel was12:54
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Hobbsee!de12:55
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:55
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ubuntuhi12:56
ubuntuis this working ok12:57
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morgetich hab ein problem mit kubuntu: ich hab kubuntu auf eine festplatte installiert, nach der erfolgreichen installation wollt ich meine anderen festplatten wieder am ide-controller anschlissen, allerdings hngt sich kubuntu beim booten auf, an der estelle wo kommt "mounting foot file system".01:01
Hobbsee!de01:01
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:01
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morget...01:01
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JucatoHobbsee: you're back!?!01:08
HobbseeJucato: quite possibly01:09
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Jucatooh. I thought you were her ghost or something. ehehe01:09
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HobbseeJucato: :P01:11
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synapticshello.. is it possible to play wmv file formats?01:19
synapticsin kubuntu01:19
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Mehercleyes01:21
Meherclewith kmplayer01:21
synapticswhere can i get kmplayer?01:22
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Meherclesudo apt-get install kmplayer01:22
Mehercleor adept01:22
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synapticsthanks Mehercle01:22
atidemsynaptics: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats01:22
Meherclenp01:22
synapticshopefully i can play those files01:22
Meherclei've checked it yesterday01:23
Meherclei was writing a script01:23
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synapticsMehercle: i tried using kmplayer, all i could hear is the sound and not the video01:26
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Mehercle!restrictedformats01:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:26
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revolverscusate ho un problema, ho appena scaricatowolfenstein e.t.,, un file. run, vi spiacerebbe dirmi come fare per installarlo, ho cercato dappertutto ma non capisco01:34
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RogueJediXrevolver: #kubuntu-it01:39
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kristina_how to edit the sources.list to install vlc and other non supported software? have dapper01:43
Hobbseekristina_: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list01:45
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kristina_and what i have to add there?01:46
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kristina_or to cange01:46
kristina_change01:46
sleeptyperKonversation crashed...01:47
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kristina_hello01:51
andi_hello01:51
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kevjava_kristina:  Try easyubuntu ( http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org )01:54
Hobbseeheh, they've gone01:54
kevjava_It will write the sources.list for you.01:54
Hobbseebesides, vlc is already in the repos.01:54
kevjava_I thought so.01:55
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dhqhow do i upgrage to kde 3.5.402:00
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kevjava_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22777702:03
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kevjava_It's not recommended at the moment, I don't think.02:03
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dhqkevjava_: why02:04
dhqkevjava_: its not stable02:05
LynoureAny recommendations for a ide in kde to be used with python?02:05
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alex_i have an old pc02:11
dhqis it safe for me to upgrade to kde 3.5.402:11
alex_there is pc133 ram. can i add pc 100 ram02:12
alex_?02:12
atidemLynoure: eclipse and pydev02:12
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alex_on ram stand "pc100-322-620"02:12
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Lynoureatidem: thanks, I'll try them02:13
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atidemor eric302:14
atidem:)02:14
Jucatokdevelop doesn't do python?02:15
alex_i have pc133 ram installed. can i add pc 100 ram??02:15
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sleeptyperyes02:16
sleeptyperbut the 133 will run at 100 after that02:16
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dhqalex_: i guess you can add the ram as the pc133 and pc 100 architecture is diffrent02:17
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dhqalex_: your pc may not even start it will hang at boot02:18
sleeptypernah..02:18
sleeptyper133 can work at 100 with no problemo02:18
Jucatoas long as the mobo supports both 133 and 100, right?02:19
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sleeptyperyep02:19
sleeptyperbut all 133 are downward compatible02:19
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dhqsleeptyper: the best way is to try it out and see02:21
sleeptyperindeed...02:21
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sleeptyperi have seen a mobo trying to enforce a 100 to run at 133.... ofcourse it failed02:22
sleeptyperhad to manually set it to 100MHz02:22
dhqi had a mobo which ran 133ram but wen i used 100 it just hanged02:23
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dhqie i33 and 100 togeather02:23
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sleeptyperthen the bios failed02:23
baldihello02:23
sleeptyperit should have ran the 133 at 10002:24
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dhqyeah may be anyways i resold the 100ram and bought a 133ram02:24
sleeptyperheh02:25
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tookhi02:25
tooki'm quite new to ubuntu and i gotta little problem with Adept Installer02:26
tooksome packets are know to Adept Installer but "greyed-out"02:27
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tookand i have no clue why and how to "activate" those items02:27
tookcan anybody help?02:27
dhqsleeptyper: is it safe to upgrade kde 3.5.3 to kde 3.5.402:27
sleeptyperno idea...02:28
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dhqno what you using02:29
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sleeptyperhmm02:32
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tooki tryed google. some pages say: by default all are gray. You have to right-click and select "enabled"... but if I click on the item nothing happens...02:33
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Jucato_took: what seems to be the problem?02:33
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tookno clue. I dont know how it should work...02:34
tookcan u right-click items in adept installer?02:34
Jucato_took: no02:34
Jucato_what are you trying to do, btw? I just came in02:35
took;)02:35
tookah i see02:35
tookk02:35
tooksome packets are know to Adept Installer but "greyed-out"02:35
tooks/know/knowen/g02:35
Jucato_ah.02:36
tookdont know how to activate02:36
Jucato_I will introduce you to Adept Installer's older and more powerful brother: Adept02:36
Jucato_go to K Menu > System > Adep (Package Manager)02:36
Jucato_s/Adep/Adept02:36
Jucato_then once in Adept, go to the Adept menu > Manage Repositories02:37
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dhqis it safe to upgrade kde 3.5.3 to kde 3.5.402:52
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sleeptyperdhq, mine is 3.5.202:53
Jucato_it's "relatively" safe02:54
dhqsleeptyper: well they say 3.5.4 is amazing the transpent effect plus faster  konsole etc02:54
Jucato_which transparent effect?02:54
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tookJucato_: wb. thx. I'm making some progress now :)02:55
LynoureEffects are usually just amazingly useless :)02:55
Jucato_Lynoure: it depends on the person using it02:55
Jucato_took: glad I could help02:55
sleeptyperhmm02:55
sleeptypera friend installed xgl in gnome...does it work ok in KDE as well?02:56
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tookthx a lot again :)02:56
LynoureJucato_: of course02:56
tookits workin now02:56
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dhqsleeptyper: how do i configure opengl02:57
LynoureJucato_: I have even met people who want to have a sound effect for everything, every time02:57
Jucato_ehehe02:57
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dhqsleeptyper: i tried xgl and my full system got scre**02:58
sleeptyper...02:58
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dhqsleeptyper: how do i configure opengl02:59
sleeptyperi've been using Kubuntu for a week...03:00
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sleeptyper= no idea03:00
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vdabeelHello all03:04
Jucato_hi03:05
vdabeelI have a little question , but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere03:05
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Lynourevdabeel: ask?03:06
vdabeelIf you select a command in terminal with your mouse , how can you make this is automaticly copied03:07
vdabeelso you don't eacht time have to select & paste with your mouse03:07
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vdabeelI want to have a "putty" like behavior03:07
vdabeelif you understand my problem , not easy to find the right 'google' terms03:08
Lynourevdabeel: that's ssh or scp03:08
vdabeelno ssh or scp , just terminal commands03:08
Lynourevdabeel: konsole03:09
Tm_Tvdabeel: err, you mean, paste with middle button? ;)03:09
vdabeelyep Konsole03:09
vdabeelok , stupid me03:09
Tm_Tvdabeel: select -> middle button paste is default *nix behaviour03:09
Lynourevdabeel: it's in the menu, under system03:09
vdabeelI was always trying with left mouse button , because I was used to in putty03:09
vdabeelbut I guess I can change this , will take a look into system/menu03:10
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andyHello from colorado03:11
LynoureOh, sorry, I got confused, but perhaps it is configurable03:11
vdabeelanyway , middle mouse-button will do as well :)03:12
vdabeelthx for the help03:12
Jucato_imbrandon: you're here! ^_^03:12
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imbrandoni'm always here03:12
imbrandonbut i'm afk , brb03:12
imbrandonlol03:12
Jucato_lol03:12
Jucato_ok...03:12
Jucato_(your nick wasnt here a couple of hours ago, though...)03:13
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andyCan someone please tell me the repository country code for the united states?03:13
Jucato_us.archive.ubuntu.com ?03:14
andyThnk you03:14
Jucato_make that http://us.archive.ubuntu.com03:14
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andyI mean thank you very much03:16
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Jucato_glad I could help (I wasn't even sure that it was what ou were looking for...)03:16
andyThis is my first time on IRC it is nice.03:16
Jucato_^_^03:17
andyIs there a site that explains more about it?03:18
andyIRC I mean.03:18
Jucato_hmm... which part of IRC?03:18
andyThe basics03:18
Jucato_oh.. hm...03:18
andyHow to find the differnt "rooms"?03:19
Jucato_http://www.irc.org/ ??03:19
Jucato_each IRC client has different wasy to do that, andy.03:19
andyThank you again!03:19
Jucato_If you're using Konversation, you can list available rooms/channels on this server (freenode) in the Window menu > Channel list for freenode03:20
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baldiandy: /list03:22
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Jucato_baldi: that works too. ehehehe03:22
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baldi;-)03:23
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Jucato_andy: you might also be interested in a short IRC Class that we had before, it was basically an introduction to IRC on Linux. Actually, more of how to use the IRC Clients.03:23
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Jucato_Here's a link to the transcript of that class: http://jucato.multiply.com/journal/item/2803:24
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andyRight on!03:24
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Jucato_andy: you made me research for IRC stuff, now I'm gonna flood you with links to read :-D03:26
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andyYou are too kind.03:27
Jucato_These are from the Ubuntu wiki and help pages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines?action=show&redirect=IRCGuidelines03:28
Jucato_lol! those are only 2. it seems that the other pages just redirecto to those...03:28
andyI am going to read what I have.03:30
LeeJunFanHrm, just edited /etc/openoffice/sofficerc to Logo=0 and I still get the splash screen.03:30
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dhqwhich is the best kde gnome fluxbox etc ...03:37
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Jucato_aah... the silence...03:39
LouKall[pissing] 03:39
Jucato_none are better. it all depends on the person using it03:39
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ChuckDoes anybody know how to share an internet connection over LAN to the device ppp0?03:54
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Kamping_KaiserChuck, look up debian-administration.org. theres a howto there03:55
Chuckthanx?03:55
Chuckthx!03:55
Kamping_Kaiserits called 'setting up a simple debian gateway', if you follow that, then read the comments, theres a quick fix to get it working over ppp03:55
Chuckk03:56
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mzelemDoes anyone know where I could find a how to on how to set up a network where you can share samba and such on eth0 and use internet on ppp0?04:06
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Chuckdebian-administration.org04:06
Chuckbut Im trying, how to get work...04:07
Chuckor look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9137004:07
mzelemok, thank you04:08
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Mastastealthhey guys, does anyone know if a package has been made for amarok 1.4.2?04:13
Jucato!amarok04:14
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/04:14
Mastastealth:) thx04:14
Jucatoit's made by a Kubuntu developer, so you can trust the package04:14
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KeenEarshi again guyz =)04:15
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KeenEarsyesterdays idea with livecd was good, but not with KDE and 256 mb ram ;)04:16
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Chuckfor low memory use xubuntu04:17
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KeenEarsthey do not send it04:19
KeenEarsi just need to install and use hd`s filesystem for packages04:20
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gotmilk i have the wierdest problem, im on my xp laptop at the moment using dhcp and net is working, however in kubuntu ive gotten my ip addess assign from the dhcp server but unable to access the net at all04:49
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mzelemgotmilk: are you sure it's not a dns issue?04:51
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gotmilkwith my isp?04:52
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melknixsomebody have written a robocup?04:53
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gotmilkwhere can i set the dns ?04:54
fritschgotmilk: i think this look as an "mtu" problem to me04:54
gotmilkhrmm should look before i speak04:54
octangotmilk, for your isp ?04:54
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sleeptyperany way to make Konversation to arrange channel tabs alphabetically ?04:54
fritschgotmilk: you get an IP and "/etc/resolv.conf" is updated?04:54
Jucatosleeptyper: I don't think so, but you can rearrange the tabs manually...04:55
sleeptyper...04:55
sleeptyperi like automation :)04:55
Jucatosleeptyper: ehehe04:55
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gotmilkmzelem wins the prize04:55
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gotmilklol04:55
gotmilkthanks i didnt even think to check dns04:56
spaoshi04:56
spaosall04:56
octanhi04:56
Jucatohi to those who said hi04:56
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neari just wonder how to make kunbuntu faster04:57
gotmilknow that ive got net going, what should i run to make sure everything is upto date04:57
octanapt-get update & apt-het upgrade04:57
gotmilkwhats het do?04:58
sleeptyperhe typoed04:58
octanyea04:58
octansorry04:59
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sleeptyperuse sudo to get it work right04:59
neari changed from unbuntu to kunbuntu05:02
nearbut now everything is slow05:02
nearwhy ?05:02
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octancoz kde is slower than gnome :P05:02
Nearyoure joking ?05:03
[GuS] KDE has more stuff than Gnome :P05:03
octanno,05:03
octanyes05:03
octanbut its slower05:03
octannot much tho05:03
[GuS] octan, is has more stuff/service.. will be more slower05:03
[GuS] don't you think?05:03
octanhats logic05:03
[GuS] indeed.. the diff. is almost none05:03
octanthats05:03
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Nearok let's remove all stuff05:03
sleeptyperfast enuff on amd64 3200+ 2G 8)05:04
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[GuS] Near, if your system is much much slower... i don't think is for KDE05:04
[GuS] how di you installed kde?05:04
octanhah fast enough for me and my amd64 xp3700+ 2 gb ram :P05:04
octantoo05:04
Nearpentium 1G 256 mo ram05:04
gotmilkim pretty stocked at how its running on this p3 600mhz05:04
[GuS] me too05:04
[GuS] Near, how did you installed kde?05:05
[GuS] did you do with the command: sudo  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?05:05
Nearcmd line direcly from ubuntu05:06
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Nearyes05:06
[GuS] ok05:06
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Nearis it evil ?05:06
octanno05:06
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[GuS] is the right way :)05:06
[GuS] but yes.. in old computers.. maybe is more slow05:06
[GuS] since KDE runs more services/apps than Gnome05:06
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Jucatonow you have 2 desktops: GNOME and KDE...05:07
KeenEarsespecially if u have low mem05:07
gotmilkhow do i save the sources.list in kate after making changes, keeps telling me access denied05:07
[GuS] yeah05:07
[GuS] specially that05:07
octangotmilk kdesu kate05:07
Jucatogotmilk: you must Edit as Root05:07
[GuS] if you have a slow mProcessor.. you need more ram then :)05:07
gotmilkoh yeah forgot about that05:07
Nearerf05:07
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octangotmilk, use kdesu kate05:07
Jucatogotmilk: either luanch Kate as root "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" or right-click on sources.list, select Actions > Edit as Root05:08
Nearthx gus for all tips05:08
[GuS] or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:08
sleeptyperso if i want to compare gnome/kde ... i do "sudo ap-get install ubuntu-desktop" ?05:08
[GuS] Your welcome Near05:08
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gotmilkyeah thanks Jucato just did that then (xp user forgetting about not being as root lol)05:08
[GuS] sleeptyper, that if you want to install Gnome desktop (or ubuntu)05:08
jumpeingposdrafiam fszystkich Polakf05:09
Jucatoactually I would recommend using aptitude if you're just going to test it05:09
sleeptyperhow do i switch between the two ?05:09
[GuS] by the Login session05:09
sleeptyperright05:09
[GuS] you  will be available to choose Gnome or KDE05:09
sleeptypergood...05:09
[GuS] Jucato, why aptitude?05:09
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Jucato[GuS] : so that it could more easily removed later on. Aptitude has better metapackage handling than apt-get05:10
sleeptyperheh...one thing i won't miss - XP's constant need for restarts in every corner05:10
[GuS] ok.. so removing ubuntu-desktop will remove all packages?05:10
[GuS] (from Ubuntu-desktop)05:10
KeenEarsguys do ya have problems with kubuntu installer ?05:11
[GuS] usign aptitude i mean.05:11
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Jucatoonly If ubuntu-desktop was installed with aptitude05:11
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[GuS] ok Jucato , that i didn't know.. i always use apt05:11
Jucato^_^05:11
[GuS] and apt just remove the virtual package05:11
utabhey is there a way to listen to online radio stations that broadcast on windows media player05:11
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[GuS] thanks :)05:11
Jucato[GuS] : that will only remove that virtual package, and not the dependencies that were installed with it05:11
utabor real player05:12
[GuS] yeah.. i know05:12
[GuS] i just tried before with apt05:12
[GuS] just i didn't know that aptitude will do the job ;)05:12
gotmilkanyone else able to reach au.archive.ubuntu.com ?05:12
[GuS] that host has no ping response gotmilk05:13
Hobbseegotmilk: i seem to be able to05:13
[GuS] at least from here05:13
KeenEarsi `ve get strange problems with partitions setting yesterday05:13
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HobbseeGet:3 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release [34.7kB] 05:13
Jucatoping responses here...05:13
[GuS] seems in some places has no response05:13
gotmilkwierd05:14
gotmilkshould i just use another archive?05:14
Hobbseeyes05:14
Jucatodefinitely05:14
Jucatoabsolutely positively05:14
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gotmilklol05:14
gotmilkwhich u recommend05:14
Nearis it safe to remove kdcop ?05:15
sleeptyper500ms from finland...05:15
[GuS] 102083ms (and without ping..) from Argentina :P05:15
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sleeptyperkinda fast ping to australia even when my line is filled with traffic05:15
JucatoNear: i don't think so05:15
KeenEarsno response05:15
KeenEarsfrom russia05:15
Nearthx05:16
Jucatogotmilk: I got ping responses from the Philippines... 353ms05:16
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Jucatonooooo!!!!!05:17
JucatoT_T05:17
Jucatoso not fair....05:18
KeenEarsbtw, why kubuntu installer isn`t support reiser4 creation ? or i did smth wrong ?05:18
JucatoIs there any other mind mapping app besides KDissert?05:18
gotmilkwhats the prog that acts like command prompt in counter strike and that05:19
gotmilklike konsole05:19
JucatoKeenEars: because reiser4 isn't supported by the kernel, the Desktop CD installer offers only the most basic installation options05:19
naliothgotmilk: yakuake05:19
KeenEarsjuc: ubuntu has no problems with it, just kubuntu05:19
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KeenEarssame version05:20
RiddellKeenEars: because qtparted doesn't support it05:20
KeenEarsubuntu 6.06 created part and used it just fine05:20
gotmilkta05:20
sleeptypersoo, when i get the gnome installed, xgl works in it ok?05:20
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KeenEarsah, ok. but if i create this part by other means, can i install ?05:21
DaSkreechsleeptyper: XGl is below both Gnome and KDE so both of them can use it05:21
JucatoHi Riddell!05:21
utabanyone listens online radios broadcasting on windows media05:21
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sleeptyperk05:21
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kyaneoshow can i disable the korganizer reminder daemon??05:21
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Jucatolol05:21
DaSkreechGet ready to Humble!!!05:21
sleeptyperluckily a friend (more linux-literate) managed to install it succesfully  :)05:21
Jucatokyaneos: right-click on the Korganizer system tray and uncheck the option?05:22
naliothutab: perhaps ask in ##windows ?05:22
RiddellKeenEars: that should be fine, you can install gparted for example and use that from the live cd05:22
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kyaneosJucato: but when i start kontact it appears another time05:22
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utabnalioth : I mean on a linux box, because all of them broadcast in windoes media05:22
naliothutab: i usually capture windows media streams before playing them back05:23
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Jucatokyaneos: because it's part of Kontact. in Kontact go to Settings > Configure Kontact > Select Components and uncheck Calendar05:23
utabnalioth : no direct way to listen them live05:23
gotmilkhow do i tell which version of dapper i am>05:23
Kr4t05Does anyone know of any possible way that I could minimize an xterm window to the system tray?05:23
kyaneosJucato: and it do the same05:24
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Jucatohmm...05:24
naliothutab: i've had more trouble trying to get live WMA streams going, i just capture the stuff i want05:24
DaSkreechgotmilk: cat /etc/issue05:24
DaSkreechgotmilk: or lsb_release -a05:24
utabnalioth, thx05:25
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Jucatokyaneos: that's strange...  Calendar was enabled again...05:25
utabis there anyone else to join the discussion on live radio stations on linux05:26
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Jucatokyaneos: probably you have to uninstall korganizer. but I wouldn't know if that's a wise move or not05:26
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naliothgotmilk: what exactly do you mean, 'download isn't working' ?05:27
kyaneosokis05:28
gotmilkthe file isnt available from the site05:28
kyaneosthank you very much Jucato05:28
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utabnalioth, youtube and google video are ok but things requiring wmv, it is not, but I can view WMV files under xine05:28
naliothgotmilk: use adept, it's in the repos05:28
nalioth!info yakuake05:28
ubotuyakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB05:28
naliothgotmilk: enable your universe and multiverse repositories and use adept to install it05:29
utabnalioth, what is the difference05:29
gotmilkk thanks05:29
Jucatogotmilk Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:29
trappistutab: only thing I can't view is wmv9 on amd6405:29
naliothutab: microsoft is the culprit in this.05:29
trappistbut I heard the realplayer folks are gonna fix all this for us, open-source style05:30
utabtrappist, how do you listen online radio stations if you do05:30
trappistutab: I don't much, but usually xmms or amarok05:30
trappistsometimes mplayer if it gets tricky05:31
utabtrappist, by giving the URL05:31
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trappistutab: mplayer 'url' has never failed me05:31
utabtrappist thx for the help05:31
rataholaaa05:31
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naliothutab: you see, microsoft changes the format of the multimedia streams with each version05:34
aseigoRiddell: ping?05:35
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aseigo"let our rings unite!" ;)05:36
Jucatolol05:36
Jucatoalmost Wednesday... looking forward to another Plasma blog :-D05:36
aseigoyep.. tomorrow =)05:36
gotmilkthanks for the help guys05:37
gotmilknite05:37
Jucatokoolness!05:37
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Riddellaseigo: hi05:39
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utabtrappist, how do u play an url in mplayer05:40
sleeptyperopen location ?05:40
danny500How do I get mplayer on my machine?05:40
trappistutab: I just say mplayer 'url'05:40
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danny500How do I get MPlayer on my computer?05:41
danny500?05:42
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utabtrappist I get some error messages05:42
danny500anybody?05:42
abattoirdanny500: 'sudo apt-get install mplayer'05:42
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Jucato!mplayer05:43
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer05:43
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.05:43
abattoirdanny500: its in multiverse05:43
utabtrappist can you give me an URL05:43
trappistutab: don't have one handy05:43
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danny500I know but it say's it's not made for the archetecture of my system05:43
aseigoRiddell: hey dude =) you now how i blogged about those kde machines in teh mall?05:43
aseigoer, the mall05:43
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danny500 I know but it say's it's not made for the archetecture of my system05:43
aseigoRiddell: well,  visited them yesterday ... they are kiosk'd down kubuntu systems =)05:43
Riddellaseigo: rocking05:43
Riddellaseigo: take a photo?05:44
aseigoRiddell: people were using them ... waiting in line even05:44
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aseigoRiddell: no, didn't have a cam with me... will have to fix that.. but yeah, the mall has put up a free hotspot and a couple of machines for public use in addition to the hotspot.. and whoever put it in used kubuntu05:44
utabtrappist, do I need extra codecs or ...05:44
trappistutab: depends on the stream05:45
aseigoRiddell: the kiosk is pretty well set up too... they only missed being able to set wallpapers via the servicemenus ;)05:45
utabtrappist, actually I have activated most05:45
Riddelluh oh, what did you set it to :)05:45
dj_baggiohmm...when I try install sth in konsole I have: DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.05:45
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dj_baggioany ideas how can I delete this? :)05:45
aseigoRiddell: but though you might like to know ... first public general internet systems in the malls around calgary that i'm aware of... and look what they use ;)05:45
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Jucatolol05:46
Riddelllocking down windows is very hard05:46
aseigoRiddell: humerously, someone(s?) had downloaded some windows binaries to the desktop (they kept the home dir writable) of one of the machines...05:46
aseigoRiddell: we giggled about that ;)05:46
aseigobrought me back to the whole "kubuntu ought to ship with some premade kiosk configs..."05:47
danny500I know how to make games on windows run faster05:47
aseigoi'm going to see if i can find out who set up the systems in the mall, too... make ocntact and what not05:47
Jucato.exe files on a Linux kiosk.......05:47
Riddellwe have a spec for that, just takes some time to implement it05:47
aseigoRiddell: yep =)05:47
Ethosguys how can I install x-window-system-dev?05:47
EthosI'm having some problems with it05:48
Ethos:)05:48
aseigoRiddell: if i get bored i might even contribute some to that... not before akademy though05:48
danny500Ethos05:48
Ethos(Sorry i'm new to linux)05:48
danny500I'll help you ok05:48
Ethosthanks05:48
dj_baggiosudo apt-get install "package" :)05:48
danny500do you have msn messanger?05:48
Ethosyep05:48
danny500danieldewitt_75@hotmail.com05:49
danny500add me we'll talk05:49
Ethosok secs05:49
Jucatohmm...05:49
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danny500only Ethos,no one else.05:49
Jucatodanny500:05:49
aseigohahha05:49
Jucatodanny500: you should have PMed him/her...05:49
Jucatoehehe05:50
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Ethosjust added you!05:50
danny500ok, I don't need a 20mpage contct list05:50
danny500lol05:50
Ethoslol05:50
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Ethosuh-oh!!05:51
sleeptyperj/k05:51
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malkisagt mal, muss man bei den aktuellen nvidia treibern irgendwas beachten? ich bekomme sie einfach nicht insterlliert ;/05:53
Jucato!de05:53
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:53
malkioops ^^ sorry05:54
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pradeeptointeresting info, thanks :)05:54
Jucato???05:54
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Xcaliburyo05:55
pradeeptoJucato: the Deutsch channels :)05:55
Xcaliburthis is "tj_"on my windows laptop05:55
Jucatooh. ehehe05:55
Jucatohi05:55
Xcaliburlol05:55
XcaliburI have like 4 PC05:55
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XcaliburI would like to know, which ones should I put kubuntu on, i like it really05:56
Jucatoall of them05:56
Jucato:-D05:56
Xcaliburlol05:56
XcaliburI can't05:56
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Xcaliburmy mom has ones, my other one, is already a dedicated server05:56
Jucatomaybe just one. or two. choose the very best :-D05:57
XcaliburI have 1 available PC05:57
Xcaliburit has a pentium III?05:57
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Xcaliburwill it work?05:57
JucatoI think so05:57
Xcaliburok05:57
Jucatohow much RAM?05:57
Xcaliburit only has a 20gb HDD, that still work05:57
Xcaliburit has 256MB of AM, i think05:58
XcaliburRAM*05:58
XcaliburI just recentliy had a memory upgrade, for RAM05:58
Jucatoyep, I think Kubuntu will walk fine...05:58
Xcaliburok05:58
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Xcaliburb/c windows is shit for that PC(not that it isn't for others either :))05:58
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Jucato(language pls..)05:59
Xcaliburo05:59
Xcalibursrry05:59
Jucato^_^05:59
ubuntuim doing the trail version of linux kubuntu05:59
Xcalibur?05:59
ubuntuso far i guess its good05:59
Xcaliburwats that05:59
Jucato^_^ = :-)05:59
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DaSkreechJucato: KDE likes RAm though05:59
trappistubuntu: trail version?05:59
JucatoDaSkreech: who doesn't? ehehe05:59
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Xcaliburlol06:00
DaSkreechVectorLinux?06:00
Jucatoehehe06:00
DaSkreechWe Spit upon your more than 64 MG of RAM06:00
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Xcaliburmy frien, he doesn't like his kubuntu, he oredered a winvista CD, so when it gets there, he's reformatting, and reinstalling06:00
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ubuntuwindows sucks dick06:01
DaSkreechHa ha :)06:01
Xcalibur:-(06:01
Jucato!language06:01
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:01
Xcaliburlol06:01
Nearre06:01
danny500shut up ubuntu06:01
DaSkreechXcalibur: Have him install it on your PIII with 256 MG of RAM :)06:01
XcaliburI will06:01
XcaliburI luv linux now06:01
XcaliburI tried it on my xbox, it's f'in awesome06:01
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XcaliburI had Gentoox tho06:02
danny500Linux is good but theres no games for it06:02
DaSkreech!games06:02
Xcaliburyeah there is06:02
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php06:02
Jucatouh oh....06:02
DaSkreech*cough*06:02
danny500like what06:02
Xcaliburtoribsh.com06:02
Xcaliburtoribash.com*06:02
danny500you can't play quake 406:02
Jucatoyou have to qualify which games you refer to danny50006:02
Xcaliburfighting game for linux06:02
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DaSkreechDannYes you canActually06:02
Nearlinux IS a game06:02
Xcaliburwith wine?06:03
Xcaliburlol06:03
danny500the shitty flash games fir linux don't count06:03
danny500how does wine work anywas?06:03
DaSkreech!wine06:03
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:03
Nearis there emulators for old games ?06:03
Jucatodanny500: there are lots of games in Linux. maybe not the ones you like, but there are still games06:03
Xcaliburhey, can somone plz tell me, is it possible to run wine on gentoox,(on my xbox), then run windows effectively?06:03
trappistDaSkreech: quake4 plays fine here06:03
DaSkreechtrappist: Don't tell me tell danny50006:04
ubuntucant you install to operating systems on one computer if oyu have two hard drives?06:04
Xcaliburidk06:04
trappistDaSkreech: stupid tab complete :)06:04
Xcaliburi'm new :-)06:04
danny500I have wine installed. so all I have to do is install the windows games like normal?06:04
Jucatoubuntu: yes you can06:04
trappistdanny500: quake4 plays fine here06:04
Jucatodanny500: no06:04
ubuntuaii thanks06:04
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DaSkreechXcalibur: It was running Windows Before >_> Why go through all that hassle?06:04
abattoirubuntu: you can install multiple operating systems even if you have only one hard drive.06:04
trappistdanny500: regular wine won't play many games.  that's what cedega is for.06:04
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Xcaliburthe xbox i meant06:04
abattoirbtw, hi Jucato, DaSkreech06:05
danny500then how do Iget the windows games on my system?06:05
Xcaliburi can't run windows natively06:05
Jucatoabattoir: hi!!!06:05
Xcaliburon xbox06:05
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DaSkreechabattoir: Yo yo06:05
danny500were do I get cedega06:05
DaSkreech!cedega06:05
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega06:05
trappistdanny500: transgaming.com06:05
Jucatooh the krappiness....06:05
Jucatodanny500: Cedega is not free.However you can download the Cedega CVS source code for free06:06
Jucatodarn... Kompmgr seems to be buggier in Dapper than it was in Breezy....06:06
shannonI have a lan set up for samba, but I have to connect to the internet using dial up, but if I use dial up, I can't use the internet unless I take eth0 down first. anyone know how to fix this?06:06
danny500oh great. Linux is free but the only way to make it actually worth while will cost you a fortune. lol06:06
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Jucatodanny500: if games are your thing, probably. Linux is great in many other things06:07
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DaSkreechdanny500: You can compile it yourself, And if you really need games that much (or specific games) You can dual boot06:07
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Jucatobut the freedom of Linux isn't really about the cost but about the freedom06:07
danny500I can't aford windows though06:07
Nearwhy kde hates smooth scrooling ?06:08
DaSkreechOr Jump over to http://happypenguin.org and choose a game and start helping out :)06:08
danny500?06:08
JucatoNear: it doesn't06:08
danny500help what?06:08
shannon I have a lan set up for samba, but I have to connect to the internet using dial up, but if I use dial up, I can't use the internet unless I take eth0 down first. anyone know how to fix this?06:08
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DaSkreechdanny500: Building the game you want :)06:08
danny500o06:09
danny500cool06:09
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danny500I'll do that06:09
JucatoDaSkreech: kool! I thought VectorLinux was some Xfce-based distro :-D06:09
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DaSkreechJucato: :-)06:09
Jucatowb aseigo06:09
DaSkreechaseigo: Hail06:09
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Jucatothis I've got to try out...06:10
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aseigoyo...06:10
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JohnFluxhey aseigo06:11
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JohnFluxWith RAID, can I set up a three disk raid, even if I have only 2 disks at the moment :-)06:12
JohnFluxRAID 506:12
JohnFluxbasically treat the 3rd disk as broken for now06:12
Jucatogrr... gotta restart X...06:12
Jucatokompmgr...06:12
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Nearjucato: i can't find the option06:12
mioemihello people06:12
v3ctorJohnFlux: don't hink so06:12
v3ctorthink* even06:12
Hawkwindabattoir: Good morning06:12
Hawkwindabattoir: Have you been able to jot down any ideas yet per our discussion last week ?06:13
mioemihawkind, how U doing?06:13
Xcaliburback06:13
Xcaliburi dont thing kubuntu has a wireless connection manager for my laptop, does it?06:14
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Admiral_ChicagoXcalibur, yea it does06:15
Admiral_Chicago!wireless06:15
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:15
Xcaliburomg06:15
Nearhello mioemi06:15
Xcaliburawesome, how I find out my much RAM my laptop has, i can't find any sticker?06:15
nagyvI just had some problems with my internet connection, so it came to me the idea to connect to the net using my mobile phone. Is there a guide somewhere? I have GPRS and USB cables. (Actually I have a06:15
DaSkreechHa ha :-)06:15
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DaSkreechXcalibur: Try free06:16
Xcaliburim on windows by the way06:16
DaSkreechOh :-P06:16
Xcaliburlol06:16
DaSkreechUmm Win+Break06:16
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Hawkwindmioemi: Trying to recover from being sick this past week or so.  Feeling a lot better now just not back to 100%06:16
davidjuffhi06:16
Xcaliburomg, are you good at windws, too?06:16
davidjuffis there anywhere a amarok 1.4.2 .deb?06:17
DaSkreechNo I'm going through therapy for it06:17
Xcaliburit has 256MB of RAM06:17
Xcaliburlol06:17
DaSkreechI did apt-get install vrms06:17
DaSkreech!amarok06:17
Hawkwinddavidjuff: deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper amarok06:17
Xcaliburso, I'm gonna go get my disk, and install!!!06:17
Hawkwinddavidjuff: You can add that to your sources.list06:17
davidjuffthank you very much!06:17
DaSkreechdamn lazy ubotu06:17
davidjuffi know.. thx06:17
Xcaliburlol06:18
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rumixdon't forget 'wget http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/887D9FD2.gpg'06:18
rumixand 'sudo apt-key add 887D9FD2.gpg'06:18
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/06:18
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Hawkwinddavidjuff: wget http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/887D9FD2.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -06:19
Hawkwinddavidjuff: Perform that command to get the key added06:19
davidjuffthx!06:20
HawkwindNo problem06:20
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nagyvhow can I modify the list of applications that are shown when I select a link? (like: open in Opera, Konqueror, Firefox, Mozilla, etc)06:21
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DaSkreechNear: http://bash.org/?427806:22
DaSkreechnagyv: I really don't know what do you want it to say?06:22
Sannenagyv: in konqueror, right click on the file, properties, click on the icon neside "Type".06:22
Sannebeside even06:22
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Sannenagyv: oh, you mean a link... sorry, I didn't read properly06:23
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nagyvSanne: and what can I do with weblinks? I thought that this feature is linked to klipper06:24
mioemihi06:24
Sannenagyv: I don't know about weblinks, sorry. I'm used to surf with firefox, I'm using that instead on konqueror.06:25
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nagyvSanne: me to :) you don't get a small window in your right corner if you select a link in some other application?06:26
Sannenagyv: in what application, for example? What should I test?06:26
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DaSkreechmioemi: Hi06:27
DaSkreechnagyv: Ohhh that06:27
Ethosi've got cedega here but I'm having problems installing it06:27
nagyvSanne: any :) I have found that it is related to the "Right Click on Klipper" and check Enable Actions. As I see I can manage the actions by configuring Klipper.06:27
Ethosanyone anygood at that? :P06:27
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Sannenagyv: I turned off klipper... heh06:28
nagyvSanne: :/06:28
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Sannenagyv: I will start klipper and test06:29
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Sannenagyv: hmm, looks interesting, but I think you already know much more about that than me. So thanks for pointing me to klipper, it looks quite useful after all :)06:30
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nagyvSanne: I agree, just play with it! :)06:31
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Sannenagyv: :)06:31
bkudriai'm trying to compile basket 0.6.0, but it require libfam.la, and libfam0 wants to deinstall a whole bunch of my kde apps...what should i do?06:32
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trappistbkudria: libfam-dev gives you libfam.la06:34
AgiosI would probably just forget compiling basket 0.6.0 myself.06:35
trappistbkudria: so does libgamin-dev, which is probably what you want06:35
alexx860hi!06:35
trappistbkudria: since kubuntu apps use gamin rather than fam06:35
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nagyvhow could I use my mobile phone as a modem for my laptop to connect to the net?06:36
Sannebkudria: strange, I confirm that libfam0 wants to remove lots of packages. Strange, though, because as dependencies only 3 packages are listed. I wonder which of those is responsible for that.06:36
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inteliwasphow can i find out what certin programs i run do what to hardware?06:37
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bkudriatrappist: ok, thanks!06:38
bkudriaSanne: yes, it is strange06:38
Sannebkudria: weird and weirder, because I have everyone of those 3 dependencies. This looks unhealthy.06:39
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bkudriaSanne: perhaps somebody should file a bug :)06:39
inteliwasphave i made too vague of a question?06:39
Sannebkudria: that's also what I may come to conclude. Maybe there's something about libfam0 in launchpad?06:40
bkudriaSanne: well, libgamin0 Replaces libfam006:40
trappistSanne: gamin is a replacement for fam06:40
bkudriaso that would do it06:40
trappistyeah06:40
trappistthey fulfill the same requirement06:40
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trappistapt-cache show libgamin0 | grep ^Provides06:41
Sannebkudria, trappist: but still it's not clear why libfam0 wants to remove all that stuff, when those 3 dependencies are met. There's no conflicts entry either.06:41
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inteliwaspis anyone able to answer my question?06:42
trappistSanne: true, I don't see any conflicts.  might be worth a bug report.06:42
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bkudriainteliwasp: what *is* your question?06:45
inteliwasphow can i find out what certin programs i run do to hardware?06:45
trappistinteliwasp: that *is* a little vague06:45
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Sanneinteliwasp: I don't understand your question ;)06:46
inteliwaspbkudria:  more specificly, what commands to put into a script to run for my wireless connecion06:46
bkudriai'm confused too06:46
bkudriawhat are you trying to do?06:46
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bkudriaa command to bring up your wireless connection?06:47
bkudriai have no clue :)06:47
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inteliwaspb/c i already need to run a "ifconfig up" command and for some odd reason i need to run wireless assistance to accociate even tho that fails06:47
inteliwasp*assistant06:47
pichihi06:47
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inteliwasp.... crap.... i need to go off to class, and yess it's about windoze...06:49
ramshi jemand da ? ich habe ein Problem !06:49
trappist!de06:49
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:49
ramsthx !06:50
Sannebkudria, trappist: it seems to be known that installing libfam0 "wants to remove half the world": https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/fam/+bug/514406:50
ryanakcahow do you record your desktop? like into a movie06:51
tomas_hello i ve got a problem with my via soundcard06:51
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tomas_i  ve loaded the via82xx module06:52
tomas_and in alsamixer is everything unmuted06:52
trappistSanne: yeah, looks like it got rejected06:52
Sannetrappist: yeah, seems so.06:52
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trappistSanne: I just reopened it06:53
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Sannetrappist: :)06:53
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ryanakcatomas_: are you in the "audio" group?06:55
osh_What program do I need to listen to "pod radio"?06:56
otaku-sanI'm trying to login to CVS and am doing it thru anonymous access.  So I just click enter.  Well I wait forever and then it comes up with connection timed out...is it because of the anonymous login?06:56
trappistosh_: amarok should do it06:56
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osh_trappist: I've got an url to an xml file. Where do I paste it?06:56
trappistotaku-san: sometimes that just happens, and will work if you try again06:56
trappistosh_: an xml file?06:57
trappistwhat extension does it have?06:57
ryanakcatomas_: go "Alt-F2", and run the command "kdesu userconfig". Select your username, modify, and add "audio" to the list of groups you are part of06:57
lupine_85podcast. Try Kaffeine?06:57
osh_trappist: http://www.sr.se/Podradio/xml/p3_lantz.xml06:57
lupine_85It has a place for you to paste URLs so might work06:57
otaku-santrappist: I've tried twice...yeah I have heard CVS is a bit of a pain to login...I'll try later.06:57
trappistosh_: sorry, I can't read that page06:58
osh_trappist: I think it's a list of podcasts. I don't know what to do with it though.06:58
tomas_I'm allready in this group06:59
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tomas_<ryanakca>, I`m allready in this group07:00
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Sannetomas_: you might already have seen those pages, but in case you didn't, might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide07:00
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tayirvadai_vikrai am not able to connect my mobile with my laptop via infrared07:01
tayirvadai_vikracan anyone help me07:01
raptros-v76hmm07:02
raptros-v76!infrared07:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about infrared - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:02
raptros-v76...07:02
utabhow can I listen online radio stations broadcasting through windows media player07:02
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osh_trappist: amarok sort of worked. it won't play mp3s but I know what that's about. I found where to add the pod-stream. thanks for the hint.07:02
trappistcool07:02
abattoirHawkwind: hi :)07:03
otaku-sanodd n00b question.  When I go to compile I save the tar to my desktop and have ark unpack there to...but after compiling is finished can I just delete the tar and folder?07:03
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JucatoHawkwind?? where?!?!07:03
otaku-sanJucato: I was wondering the same thing07:03
raptros-v76otaku-san: sure07:03
HawkwindJucato: Nowhere, he's gone :P07:03
Jucatootaku-san: if you used "make install", I would suggest no.07:04
abattoirJucato: he is afk? i saw he message only now07:04
Jucatolol07:04
abattoirheh07:04
Jucatohehe07:04
raptros-v76otaku-san: or not07:04
Jucatootaku-san: I wouldn't delete it, so I could "make uninstall" later07:04
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raptros-v76isnt there a tracking system for source stuff?07:04
raptros-v76theres a thing in the repos for that isnt there?07:05
abattoirtayirvadai_vikra: laptop... right? which make/model?07:05
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otaku-sanJucato: ahhhhh I see where your getting at!  Ok well then if I make a file in my $home directory it shouldn't mess it up....right?07:05
Jucatoraptros-v76: I don't think so. but it seems that using checkinstall instead of make install solves that07:05
tayirvadai_vikrahp compaq nc623007:05
raptros-v76Jucato: yeah, i think thats what i was thinking of07:06
Jucatootaku-san: you could probably try to use checkinstall. It will make a .deb for you.07:06
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kubuntu_testerhello folks07:08
raptros-v76hi07:09
kubuntu_testerI just compiled my new kernel07:09
Jucatoinfo for checkinstall: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall07:09
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kubuntu_testerI receive the message (more than one time): dm-linear07:09
kubuntu_tester[17179592.172000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed07:09
kubuntu_tester[17179592.172000]  device-mapper: error adding target to table07:09
otaku-santhanks Jucato07:09
kubuntu_testerthe system seems to work properly07:10
Healotkubuntu_tester: don't worry about that07:10
kubuntu_testerwhat's wrong?07:10
kubuntu_testerI googled but did not find a real answer07:10
kubuntu_testerHealot: what's the problem?07:11
Healotbecause nothing went wrong... it's part of the new experimental feature of 2.6 kernel line...07:11
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Xcaliburwell07:11
XcaliburI used the disk07:11
kubuntu_testeroh okay07:11
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kubuntu_testerhow can I disable this warning?07:11
Xcaliburto see how it would run on the laptop07:11
Xcaliburand07:11
XcaliburI wasn't able to use the wireless manager07:12
Healotyou dont have to, really, kubuntu_tester07:12
utabtrappist, would you mind trying mplayer http://www.muzik1.com07:12
nagyvhow could I use my mobile phone as a modem for my laptop to connect to the net?07:12
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jeroenvrpdoes anyone know if there are xine 1.1.2 packages available for dapper?07:12
otaku-sanJucato: so just replace make install with checkinstall?  That's easy enough07:12
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kubuntu_testerHealot: what feature? tell me more about that, please07:12
kubuntu_tester:D07:12
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shannondoes anyone know how to make dail-up (ppp0) for internet work with a local network (eth0) for samba at the same time?07:13
Xcaliburjucato: it said I'd didn't have the permissions to use the wireless thing correctly07:13
Healoti'm not a kernel developer, it's something about device mapper feature07:13
Xcaliburmaybe b/c it wasn't installed?07:13
otaku-sanJucato: could I rerun checkinstall on the file I just configure...I did make install...would it mess up with checkinstall?07:13
tayirvadai_vikrawas anyone able to configure their infrared?07:14
Xcaliburi have 1, what for th?07:14
Xcaliburtho807:14
Xcaliburtho*07:14
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Xcalibur!wireless07:14
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:14
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lontrai am running kde on debian etch and i am curious if konqueror loads as fast on dapper as it does on etch?  it takes me about 4 seconds for konqueror versuses 12 for firefox07:16
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xtituslontra: i can start konqui in 1.5 to 2 seconds with dapper07:19
xtitusbut it's preloading automatically before07:19
xtitusthat's why it's so fast07:19
lontrayeah07:19
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otaku-sanlontra: konq on mine loads in about 6 secs...and firefox 10...but I use ff so it has more stuff on it....and my CPUs are kinda old so it's a bit slow07:19
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xtitusfirefox: 7 sec.07:20
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otaku-sanheheh my computer is not a good candidate for linux speed! ;)07:22
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lontrai figured that dapper would probably be faster or at least the same speed as debian etch07:22
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Ethosguys my ubuntu install is telling me my software index is broken07:23
Ethoshow can i fix it ;()07:23
Ethoslol07:23
gnomefreaklontra: you really cant tell by others trying it (depends too much on whats installed/running and the hardware of the pc being used07:23
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gnomefreakEthos: sudo apt-get -f install07:24
lontrayeah i know...i just wanted to see if everyone was still noticing a preformance difference between konqueror and ff07:24
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lontrawhich is what i hoped to see07:24
gnomefreakEthos: if that doesnt work sudo apt-get update07:24
Ethosi keep getting this with those 2 commands mate07:24
EthosE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:24
EthosE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:24
HawkwindDo you have Adept open ?07:25
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gnomefreakEthos: what do you have open?07:25
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gnomefreakadept and updates in terminal?07:25
gianlucahi07:25
gianlucamy name is luca07:25
Ethoserm, firefox/azureus/konversation and the terminal window07:25
gianlucaand i live in italy07:25
HawkwindEthos: If Adept is open then you need to close it so you can use apt-get from the terminal07:25
gnomefreakgianluca: try #ubuntu-it07:25
gnomefreakoops07:25
Ethossorry to sound like a newb, but I have no idea if Adept is open or what it is07:25
Ethoslol07:25
gianlucatks07:26
gnomefreak#kubuntu-it07:26
gnomefreakEthos: what is running in terminal window?07:26
HawkwindEthos: Adept is the graphical package manager07:26
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Ethosah ok, thankyou07:26
Ethoserm, nothing just that afaik gnomefreak07:26
Ethosi opened the terminal window and typed those commands07:26
gnomefreakEthos: close adept and run those commands again07:26
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Ethosok :)07:28
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pekka_anyone can help with adept-notifier/update?07:28
Ethosok that worked07:28
Ethos:)07:28
Ethoswicked07:28
gnomefreakHawkwind: is your adept updateing sources.list when opened?07:30
soulriderhey everyone07:30
Hawkwindgnomefreak: I don't use Adept at all or any GUI package manager.  I rely solely on the CLI for that07:31
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gnomefreakgood07:31
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pekka_recently when i have tried to open adept, it says "database locked" and suggests that another application is running, using the adept database... and i assure you that this is the first thing i try to do when i log in into kubuntu. so i assume there can't be any other application running that database....07:31
gnomefreakHawkwind: i have a feeling i see a bug coming on from users with adept though :(07:31
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Not to bash things of any distro, but I don't trust a lot of GUI tools like package managers, disk partitioners :P07:31
soulriderpekka, try sudo killall adept07:32
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: Uh oh, that's not good.  Is Adept not updating somehow ?07:32
gnomefreakHawkwind: agree 100% :) only gui i use is FF and thunderbird for most part07:32
pekka_thanks soulrider, i'll try that right away07:32
gnomefreakHawkwind: i dont use it but thats 2 people in 2 days07:32
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soulriderafter that try running adept again, cross your fingers :)07:32
bubu1ukwhere in ubuntu/kubuntu is conf file for changin desktop manager? gdm/kdm07:33
DHGEpekka_: look at your kicker bar - there is adept lurking in the bg ...07:33
gnomefreakHawkwind: if i remember whne i get home from meeting ill look at it and see whats up07:33
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gnomefreakbbl meeting time07:34
pekka_the adept-notifier is in the kicker bar allright.... as it should be?07:34
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Kewl.  I'll keep my eyes for more reports on it too07:34
gnomefreakty07:34
soulriderpekka07:34
soulriderthats whats probabkly is locking the DB07:34
soulriderclick ont he adept notif and then update07:34
soulrideror just close it07:34
soulriderand you will be able to run adept allright07:35
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pekka_ehh.... i should have been more precice.... it is the adept notifier that i try to lauch, because it says now "6 updatable packages"07:35
soulridererr07:36
soulriderwhat is it that youre trying to do ?07:36
Nearhowto install azureus in kunbuntu ?07:36
pekka_and i think it is the only apt-get, adept... or any package management app that is run right after booting up07:36
Hawkwind!azureus07:36
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo07:36
soulridersudo apt-get install azureus07:36
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Hawkwindpekka_: Why not just do this:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade07:36
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Nearthx07:36
DHGENear: no luck with ktorrent?07:36
Hawkwindpekka_: Do that from a terminal and it will update everything that is needed.  Much easier than relying on a GUI package manager that doesn't do everything you want it to do07:37
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NearDHGE: its slow and without many options07:39
Nearbut i tried first07:39
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siddharthhi07:40
DHGENear: OIC - it saturates my broadband ...  and I found azureus had to many options ... interesting07:40
pekka_thanks Hawkwind! not it seems to at least do fetch something. yet some problems, i had to "sudo dpkg --configure -a" because of "dpkg was interrupted"07:40
|brad|any word on when 2.6.17 will be available for dapper?07:40
HawkwindLinux Britannia 2.6.17.11 #1 SMP Thu Aug 24 21:42:52 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux07:40
HawkwindAhhhh, tis on Dapper too :P07:40
pekka_well... at least something is happening ... ;-) thanks again guys. ill ask again if needed07:40
|brad|Hawkwind: that sexy... build the package yourself tho?07:41
Hawkwind|brad|: Yep.  With a very easy how-to on my forums :)07:41
HawkwindTakes less than an hour07:41
DHGE|brad|: I doubt there will be 2.6.17 for dapper - go kernel.org07:41
pekka_Hawkwind... you happend to know if this fixes the problem with qui? i mean with adept-notifier?07:41
|brad|DHGE: yea i see that edgy is using it07:42
Hawkwindpekka_: I would think so.  However, I don't touch Adept at all so I know nothing about it to be honest07:42
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|brad|when is that due out... sorry for the newb questions.07:42
ravenous!schedule07:42
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:42
DHGE|brad|: I built kernels when I started with linux - just not amymore ;-)07:43
|brad|Hawkwind: link to your forum please : )07:43
Hawkwind|brad|: http://LinuxForDummies.org/07:43
Hawkwind|brad|: Look in the Kubuntu How-to's section07:43
Nearazureus don't start after install07:43
RMorris85!azureus07:43
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo07:43
Nearstrange07:43
ravenousdo you have java installed?07:44
RMorris85!java07:44
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:44
|brad|DHGE: id be fine if this was on my system.... but im admining a remote system so if it dies its dead till i can go fix it : /07:44
DHGENear: try from the command line - look at the logs - read the howto07:44
pekka_Hawkwind: but the qui is so much easier :-) of course in the late days of dos 3.3 i used to love the command line. but those days are looong gone :-) thanks for your help07:44
Neari tried from command line and i'm running irate so i have java right ?07:45
Hawkwindpekka_: Everyone has their own personal opinion.  I love the GUI...just not on system tools and package managers07:45
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ravenousill take synaptic over adept in gui even personally07:46
RMorris85!synaptic07:46
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto07:46
DHGENear: NO error msg???07:46
sleeptyperAzureus has one BIG problem - huge resource use07:46
raptros-v76!adept07:46
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:46
Nearnothing, are you amazed ? ;)07:46
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DHGEyes07:46
Nearhow can i kill the process ?07:47
DHGEbut I had problems with azureus: slow and resource hog - and when I tried it java install was a pain in the rear07:47
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ravenousps aux, find the pid, 'kill pid'07:48
DHGENear: maybe azureus demans Sun's java - like JBidwatcher which I like07:48
Nearlet's try07:49
DHGEupdate-alternatives --display java07:49
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pekka_thanks guys, the apt-get update && upgrade is now finished. i'll reboot and check again if the problem is fixed07:51
HawkwindReboot ???07:51
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HawkwindYou running Windows and you didn't tell us ?07:51
raptros-v76lol07:51
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pointwoodhehe07:52
Nearupdate-alternatives --display java07:52
NearCurrent `best' version is /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java.07:53
pointwooddidn't know apt-get was available for windows :p07:53
DHGENear: DARK where you look ;-)07:53
DHGEsee the Sun ...07:53
mx!paste07:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:54
DHGEyou have Ubuntu's default07:54
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DHGEhowto (you read it?) point two ...07:56
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Nearthe link from wiki is dead, i like it07:56
DHGE"2. Install Azureus and Sun Java by installing the following packages:" how difficult is that?07:56
soulriderdoes anyone know if ark keeps some sort of cache when unraring? i seem to only have 6.2 gb free07:58
soulriderwhich is insane07:58
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DHGEas root: vim  /etc/apt/sources.list                 enable the *verses07:58
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DHGEsoulrider: top or better htop and look for yourself - I think it uses lots of tmp-space07:59
DHGEinsanely slow IMO08:00
soulriderDHGE: i meant ahrd drive space, not RAM08:00
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soulriderand  i find ark quite fast08:00
DHGEOIC - sorry08:01
soulriderat least compared to winrar08:01
DHGEI unrar on the console08:01
soulrideroh08:01
NearDHGE: it's done08:01
DHGE:-)08:01
soulriderahh i know why so much space is being sued08:02
soulrideri forgot that i istalled vmware08:02
soulriderwhich take slike 8 gb :P08:02
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NearThere are 4 alternatives which provide `java'08:04
Near      1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.108:05
Near*+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java08:05
Near      3        /usr/bin/cacao08:05
Near      4        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java08:05
dusty__How can i configure remote desktop on one of my kubuntu machines?08:05
dusty__so I can access it from my laptop ?08:05
fdovingNear: please don't paste into the chanenl, use a pastebin (for more information say '!pastebin' in the channel)08:06
Near!pastebin08:06
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DHGE!azuereus08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about azuereus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:06
fdoving!azureus08:06
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo08:06
DHGE!azureus08:06
DHGENear: READ it08:06
NearDHGE: but i did it08:07
DHGE3. Configure alternatives to use Sun's java08:07
DHGEsudo update-alternatives --config java08:07
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Nearwich one i select ?08:08
DHGEsee the Sun!  Number 4 for you ...08:08
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Nearsame result.. wtf08:10
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DHGEas root???08:10
Nearof course08:10
emihello people08:10
Near'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and then 408:11
emican anybody  tell me any news?08:11
Nearhi08:11
DHGE!Krfb08:11
emihi near08:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Krfb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:11
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Nearit rains in france08:11
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emiso what about it near?08:12
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Nearemi: i hate azureus08:15
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emiwhy near?08:16
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emiwhy do U hate azureus?08:16
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Nearemi: it don't want to work08:17
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Nearthx DHGE08:26
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soulriderNear: i dont quite like azureus much either08:27
soulriderbut its kind of the best there is for linux :(08:27
Near:)08:27
soulriderin fact, im using az right now08:27
soulriderbu i prefer uTorrent for windows08:27
Nearyou must be god08:27
soulrider:/08:28
Nearany idea ?08:29
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soulrideryoure trying to run azureus on linux?08:30
TheGateKeeper!sound > TheGateKeeper08:30
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sorush20hi guys my sound system is not being detected by auto detect..08:33
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sorush20can I remove oss from my kubuntu system safely?08:33
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sorush20on clicking apply after selecting auto detect in Sound Sytem Configuration. the sound system restart progress dialogue keeps looping08:34
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Nearyes i am08:34
Neari'm also trying to play deus ex08:35
Neari must be sick08:35
mxhow do i make mount mount everything in fstab?08:35
soulrideryou ahve to add the lcoation of the partition08:36
TheGateKeepercrimsun: as a ubuntu dev can you please tell me as alsaconf is not available to (k)ubuntu users, what are they supposed to use instead if they encounter a problem? and can it be installed?08:36
soulriderwhere you wanna mount it08:36
soulriderand set permissions08:36
mx?08:36
mxand..?08:36
Hawkwindsudo mount -a  ?08:36
mxthanks08:36
soulridereverything in fstab08:36
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mxyay08:36
soulrideri guess that works too lol08:36
toni__hi08:37
toni__can you see me?08:38
Admiral_Chicagotoni__, no08:38
soulriderlol Admiral_Chicago08:38
toni__hi08:38
toni__see what i write..08:39
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, how does the programming go?08:39
soulrideryes, we do08:39
Admiral_Chicagotoni__, NO! we can't see you08:39
toni__my english is very bed08:39
Admiral_Chicagolog out and back in08:39
soulriderhavnt done any lol08:39
soulrideri started college agin08:39
Admiral_Chicagome too08:39
crimsunTheGateKeeper: if it doesn't work out of the box, it's a bug. alsaconf(1) should not be necessary to get audible sound OOtB.08:39
toni__ok boys08:39
soulriderAdmiral_Chicago: i gto programming tomorrow08:40
Admiral_Chicagospeaking of sound, i couldn't get any osund08:40
soulriderill see if i bug my teacher to explain how to solve the maze thingy08:40
Admiral_Chicagountil i realized i didn't install lib-xine08:40
crimsunTheGateKeeper: in other words, file a bug against linux-source-2.6.x (where 'x' is 15 or 17 depending on which release you use)08:40
Admiral_Chicagowhat language08:40
soulriderAdmiral_Chicago: me ?08:41
TheGateKeepercrimsun: ok thanx08:41
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Admiral_Chicagoyea08:45
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Nearbye all & thx08:50
D4rklyanyone know where to find my power management settings in KDE. when i use Xgl+compiz my screen goes black after 10mins and my screensaver is turned off in the settings ???08:51
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Xtreemback agin08:51
Xtreemthis is Xcalibur on my other PC08:51
HawkwindD4rkly: Look in systemsettings or kcontrol08:51
Xtreem!seen Xcalibur08:52
ubotuXcalibur is on IRC right now!08:52
Xtreemok08:52
XtreemI have a problem08:52
D4rklyin kcontrol under power it says laptop batery but i have a desktop ?08:52
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Kr4t05D4rkly: it always does that.08:53
Xtreemi have another PC to put a form of ubuntu on, it has a Pentium II MMX processor, idk how much ram(no OS yet)08:53
Xtreemand a like 3.7gb HDD08:53
Xtreemwhat Ubuntu should I use08:53
Xtreem?08:53
Admiral_ChicagoXtreem, tlook at Vector Linux08:53
D4rklyok08:54
Admiral_Chicagoor Ubuntu Lite08:54
Xtreemsomone told me Ubuntu lite, or Xubuntu08:54
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Admiral_ChicagoUbuntu takes up ~6Gb08:54
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octanwhats Xubuntu?08:54
Xtreemo08:54
Admiral_ChicagoXUbuntu is just Ubuntu with XFC i believe08:54
octanoh08:54
Xtreemok08:54
Xtreemit takes up 6gb?08:55
Admiral_Chicagowahtevr the destktop enviroment is called08:55
Admiral_Chicagoa little around that08:55
Xtreemxfce actually08:55
Admiral_Chicagoi need Vector Linux for a 8Gb HDD08:55
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D4rklyanyone know how to stop the screen from going black after 10mins of inactiveness in xgl+compiz (this doesnt happen under standard KDE) ??? plz help very annoying when trying to watch a movie lol08:55
Xtreemwhere can I see some screen shots of Vector?08:55
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Xtreemanyone?08:56
HawkwindXtreem: distrowatch.com08:57
Xtreemok08:57
HawkwindXtreem: Or go to their home page08:57
Xtreemthanx08:57
sleeptyperodd... my kubuntu with gnome and kde hogs ~20G08:57
magical_trevskyXtreem, http://shots.osdir.com/index.php?distro=708:58
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Xtreemok08:58
Xtreemit looks kinda like kubuntu08:58
octanmine gnome & kde ++ alot of other crap takes 9.7 Gb08:58
Xtreemwill it work with my spec?08:58
octan/dev/hda1              49G  9.7G   36G  22% /08:58
octanlol08:59
Xtreemwill vector work with a pentium II MMX08:59
Xtreemand 3.7gb08:59
HawkwindXtreem: Visit their home page, I'm sure it will say there08:59
Xtreemok08:59
HawkwindXtreem: Or join their IRC channel since it's not Kubuntu related08:59
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octanhaha my debian sarge server with gnome is 2.9 Gb :P09:00
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Xtreemok09:02
Xtreemwell, it's DL'ing09:02
Xtreemnow09:02
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octanvector?09:03
XtreemI have yet another PC, Intel Pentium III, 256MB RAM, and a 20gb HDD, this is ok for kubuntu right?09:03
octanya man09:03
Xtreemok09:03
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XtreemI luv this OS09:03
octanme too :P09:03
XtreemI fix PC's, and I'm usually recommending WinXP to most customers09:04
octani do not hate m$. i just dislike it :P09:04
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sleeptyper...09:04
sleeptyperi hate M$ for being so f*n greedy09:05
Xtreembut for the ppl that come here from now on, the smart ones, I'm going to ask them if they would to try linux for 30 days, if they don't like, they can return, and I will install windows09:05
sleeptyper$200 for buggy OS is too much09:05
Xtreemi know09:05
octanXtreem, 30 days only?09:06
XtreemI wished windows was opensource, there would be some good distros then, lol09:06
gkeyquick question - anyone experienced with getting sound to work?09:06
Xtreemmaybe 60 days, depending on there IQ, lol09:06
octangkey, whats the problem? hw or software issue=09:06
octan?09:06
gkeyseems sw issue09:06
sleeptypermany distros has it's good and bad points...09:06
gkeyit was working earlier today09:06
slow-motionhalo09:06
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slow-motion+l09:07
Xtreemlol09:07
octanXtreem, just preinstall linux.. and leave it as that.. do not mention m$09:07
Xtreemlol09:07
octan:P09:07
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Xtreemsome ppl might now understand how to use the instals tho09:07
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octanlol09:07
magical_trevskygkey, when my sound died, a quick "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset" fixed it09:07
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octangkey, driver issue ?09:08
Xtreemeats*09:08
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sleeptyperlol09:08
XtreemI got hypnotized last week09:09
sleeptyperhmm09:09
Xtreemi had 2% of my brain unlocked09:09
Xtreemnow09:09
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sleeptyperwhat command makes reverse dns ?09:09
gkeyoctan - magical_trevsky - thanks the alsa tip did it09:09
XtreemI have an IQ of something like 12009:10
Xtreemlol09:10
Xtreemback on topic09:10
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magical_trevskygkey, np :)09:10
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octan:)09:10
Xtreemanyone know what crossover pro is?09:10
gkey:)09:10
octanXtreem 120 only? :P09:11
Xtreemidk09:11
Xtreemsomeone told me it was higher than usual09:11
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Xtreemafter the hypnotization09:11
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octanoh right :P09:11
Xtreemwhats the average, he said it went up 2009:11
Xtreemi watched this laser09:11
Xtreemit was cool09:11
Xtreemthe guy that did it, he can lift a cheerio09:12
Xtreemwith his mind :o09:13
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octanwell time for me to stick my nose in my c++ book again.09:13
Xtreemi know c++09:13
Xtreemvery well actually09:13
octangood for you :) make any usefull apps?09:13
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Xtreemyes09:14
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octanlike?09:14
rotemhi09:14
XtreemI make map resigners for halo 2, map editors(the lead programmer for entity)09:14
Xtreemand09:15
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XtreemAIO's09:15
Xtreemand09:15
octannice09:15
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XtreemI made a image converter09:15
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MulderHello all09:15
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Xtreemhi09:16
MulderNew to Linux...and on and off with Kubuntu. Had and still have some issues and it is doing my head on and off09:16
Xtreemwhats the prob09:17
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MulderOk I am running Kubuntu 6.06.1 live cd for the time being. Had it installed once before09:17
Xtreemok09:17
Xtreemand?09:17
MulderI want to have my duo core acer recognized, right now only one cpu recognized...for this I need to be able to download packages and stuff, can't make it work eiher, as well as having a decent resolution of 1280x800 for the lappy using an atix140009:19
XtreemI wanted that laptop09:19
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Xtreemlol09:19
Mulderacer 567209:19
Mulder:-)09:19
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Xtreemdo they have the drivers for it, in the newest release09:20
Mulderand I really want to use Kubuntu...I have been dying to09:20
octani got a acer 20" widescreen :P running at 1600x1200 :P09:20
Mulderlucky you octan09:20
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rdaleI've just upgraded to kde 3.5.4 with dapper and my fonts look a complete mess - anyone know how to fix them?09:20
MulderI am new to Linux and really want to start the right way...guess a birth is always painful09:20
octani luv my screen09:20
Muldernot sure Xtreem09:20
Xtreemwell, I'll look into it, i have to goto the store09:21
Mulderah...09:21
Xtreembrb09:21
Mulderok09:21
octanMulder, dual core you sad?09:22
Kr4t05octan: I beat you. Two 17" CRTs at 1280x1024 each.09:22
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Kr4t052560x1024 total resolution. :)09:22
Kr4t05With XGL/compiz.09:22
Mulderyes09:22
baldixD09:22
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Mulderduo core intel09:23
octanKr4t05, lol.09:23
baldi1 widescreen 15'', 1 crt 17''09:23
baldi*hihi*09:23
octanMulder, what does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?09:23
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Kr4t05H09:23
baldiinfos about the cpu?09:23
Kr4t05Hawkwind: XGL?09:23
baldixD09:23
Mulderprocessor 009:24
Mulderthat is all09:24
Mulderno 109:24
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HawkwindKr4t05: Goodness no.  I don't want to risk the chance of messing up my system for XGL09:24
Kr4t05Hawkwind: Chicken. It's actually not that hard if you have an nVidia card.09:24
octanMulder i think its seen as 0 cos its dualcore not dual socket09:24
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Kr4t05Hawkwind: and, with the recent updates, I've had less and less bugs/crashes.09:25
Mulderone cpu seems to be recognized not the two of them09:25
MulderI guess I need to install linux 686 smp right?09:25
octanMulder its still on the same socket09:25
Mulderbut normally I should processor 0 and processor 1 right?09:26
Muldershould have09:26
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octanMulder go to #kernel and ask  some ppl in ther should answer in 1or 2 houers.09:27
Mulderok09:27
Kr4t05hours*09:27
Kr4t05Sorry...09:27
octanblah09:27
octan :P09:27
ravenousthere's not two actual physical cpu's on the machine i dont see why it would show two09:27
Kr4t05I'm a bit of an English Nazi. ><09:27
octanravenous, exactly09:27
Mulderbut still it should show pro 0 and proc 109:28
Martijn81yeah, KTorrent 2.0.2 is out :)09:28
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Kr4t05Martijn81: Old news. :P09:28
Muldereverywhere I looked at said that, so i assume09:28
octanits 1 dualcore on socet0 therfor its seen as prosessor 0, it it was dual socket then it should have shown 0 and 109:28
Kr4t05I've had it since yesterday. :P09:28
mzelemI have 2 hp printers that print out jiberish. When I click the test button it prints out fine, but if I print from an app it prints out jiberish and spits out a bunch of blank pages, couls someone please help me figure out what is wrong?09:28
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Martijn81Kr4t05, no it's not, it just out, you're talking about 2.0.109:29
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Mulderppl in kernel are sleeping...so it seems :-)09:29
Kr4t05...09:29
octanMulder, it probealy shares the task between eachother .. like when on is at full capasity the other takes over.09:30
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MulderI am confused now damn09:30
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sleeptyperdual core is what it says - two cpus in same package09:30
octanbut its on 1 socket09:30
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Mulderanyone having a duo core here?09:30
sleeptyperand intel's hyperthreading shows 1 chip as two cpus...09:30
Kr4t05Martijn81: Yeah, you're right...09:30
Kr4t05Martijn81: I was talking about 2.0.109:31
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MulderI have asked and looked around and all says proc 0 and pro 109:31
Muldercpu family 609:31
Muldermodel 1409:31
basheeshould show 2 cpus: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki//proc/cpuinfo09:31
Martijn81Kr4t05, dunno if it has the new gui stuff as in svn though, but some serious issues got solved09:32
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octanMulder how many bogomips? just curious09:32
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Mulderwhat is that?09:33
octangoogle09:33
MulderI am new remeber it is jibbrish stuff to me09:33
Mulderthat means penis in old summerian Wow!09:34
octanas i recal.. the hight the bogomips is the better performance does the cpu,.. in short terms,, but it more complicated than that..09:34
octan*higher09:34
ravenouswell the next bet would be to install a smp kernel then if you dont have one i would guess09:34
Mulderman you are losing me09:34
Mulderthat is what I said earlier :-)09:34
Mulderlinux 686 smp09:35
ravenousif you cat /proc/cpuinfo bogomips are listed in the bottom of the list09:35
Mulderbut can't install it09:35
ravenouswhy?09:35
octanmine is bogomips        : 4423.1209:35
octan:)09:35
Mulder2002.0909:35
ravenous2797.6009:36
aka_foleyhello! i have big problems with my s3 savage 4 card 64mb tv out i cant set 1024*768 only 800*600 yesterday i have 1024*768! how to install this mo****fuc***g card09:36
Mulderbecause I can't download it even though I am connected to the web arf!09:36
ravenousMulder: are you trying through adept or apt-get or what?09:36
Mulderadept09:36
ravenousdo you get an error?09:36
Mulderstill on live cd though will it make a difference?09:37
ravenousuh yeah heh09:37
octanyes09:37
octanofcource09:37
Mulderso i need to install it again09:37
octanMulder yes09:37
octanelse. where whould the kernel be when you reboot with a livecd :P09:37
MulderOK well guess I have to do it then...foolish me09:38
Mulderyes octan you're right sir09:38
MulderI have been octanised!09:38
octanlol09:38
aka_foleycan sombody help me please09:38
aka_foleyi tried all the day to install the card09:38
Mulderwell then I better do it and come back to you guys09:38
octanaka_foley, #freedesktop & #xorg09:39
Mulderok then let's go cisco!09:39
octanfuck that09:39
Mulderwindows?09:40
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octanhaha09:40
octangentoo :P09:40
MulderXp...gates...vista...ok I go now09:40
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octanwot09:40
octanhttp://nuxil.dynserv.net:81/screenshot/livebackgound.png :) my screen09:41
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pibarnasdoes kubuntu 6.06.1 already has kde 3.5.4? And has the X11 trouble solved?09:48
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Kr4t05Ok... That sucked...09:49
Kr4t05Ok, rebooting again.09:51
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Kr4t05bah...09:55
Kr4t05InitNG is starting to aggravate me.09:55
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DaSkreech!language09:56
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:56
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DaSkreechaka_foley: Which S# card are you trying to tinstall and what have you tried?09:57
DaSkreechDamn :-(09:57
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yankeehi :-)09:59
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DaSkreechhi10:00
yankeeanybody tried to install Kubuntu ithout a dvd-drive? ^^10:00
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yankeebecause mine is not very relieable... It is a little bit damaged and works only sometimes...10:01
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cesarhola  a todos10:03
DaSkreechyankee: Eh?10:03
DaSkreechHi cesar10:03
DaSkreech!es10:03
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:03
Kr4t05Does anyone else here use initng?10:03
cesaralguien ah probado mono sobre  kubuntu10:03
yankeewell... it is my laptop and i put it into in a backpack with the open-button first...10:04
yankeeyou can imagine what happend, when I tried to get it out again...10:04
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lupine_85yankee: you can install from hard drive, network, etc10:04
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yankeeIn the moment I have Windows XP on it... I am going to kill Windows completely... If I can install from harddiks, could I use an external harddiks and boot from it or something like this...?10:05
yankeeI guess, that if I want to insatll via network, I still need the dvd-drive to boot from at first...10:06
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DaSkreechHow wonky is the DVD?10:06
yankeeI have not managed to operate the dvd drive in the last couple of weeks for more than 5 minutes :-(...10:07
yankeeEven this has become very hard :-(10:07
lupine_85yankee: you can boot from hard disc, floopy, CD, network...10:08
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lupine_85...USB stick, another linux install..10:08
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lupine_85plenty of choice10:08
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Xtreemback10:09
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Armagguedeshello10:09
Tokeiitocould any one share experience with Open Office vs KOffice?10:09
Xtreemhas anyone tried the [d:b]  distro?10:09
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Armagguedesi am about to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4, but i've been told that this version breaks a lot of things (is rather buggy)10:10
yankee<lupine_85> you can boot from hard disc, floopy, CD, network... << well... I still have to get the installation files to a hard disc... If I can use an external harddiks that would be fine, but how do I make my external harddiks bootable so that I can install from it...10:10
Armagguedestrue?10:10
DaSkreechArmagguedes: Yes. YMMV10:10
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Armagguedeshm crap10:10
Armagguedeshow can i update&fix?10:11
Xtreemwell, I now have found my new favorite OS10:11
Xtreemi g2g install it on about 5 more PC's10:11
Xtreemcya10:11
DaSkreechArmagguedes: Depends on what you break :)10:12
Armagguedeshm ok tks.10:12
Armagguedesi'll stick to 3.5.3 then10:12
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Armagguedesi'll wait for 3.5.510:12
lupine_85yankee: as long as you've got network access on the laptop, you can do anything! See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FindPage?action=fullsearch&titlesearch=1&value=Installation for Ubuntu-specific guides, or you can check out the (much better, IMO - and easily adaptable to Ubuntu) Debian guide at http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst10:12
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DaSkreechArmagguedes: Gg :)10:13
Armagguedesanyone here proficient in music enconding (i'm encoding to FLAC @ level 8) and normalizing?10:13
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Kr4t05Armagguedes:  man mencoder10:14
yankee<lupine_85> @reading :-). Wow, I would have never guesses so many possibilitys...10:14
Armagguedesis normalizing a track a good idea?10:14
lupine_85Armagguedes: depends how it's done10:15
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Armagguedeslupine_85 please explain10:15
lupine_85mp3gain, for instance, is very sophisticated - and lossless10:15
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lupine_85others will just get an average volume and re-encode the tracks (lossily) to that "average" volume... of course, music doesn't work like that10:16
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lupine_85(e.g. a hardcore death-rock track at a quieter "average" volume than Enya would still sound louder to the human ear)10:17
nagyvhow could I use my mobile phone as a modem for my laptop to connect to the net?10:17
lupine_85!CDMA10:17
Armagguedesi'm normalizing tracks in FLAC between 90% and 98% on CDex (im on XP, my Kub box is busted)10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about CDMA - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:17
Armagguedeshm i see10:17
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lupine_85nagyv: depends on a lot of factors. Essentially, you need to set up a ppp connection with the phone's serial line as the comms device10:18
lupine_85So much depends on the  model of phone, what it supports, and what linux supports, that it's impossible to give a step-by-step10:18
lupine_85Google might give you a better answer10:19
nagyvlupine_85: and what should I google for? what are the keywords?10:19
lupine_85"linux <phone model|brand|make> modem" would be a good start10:20
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ranciddHey guys, I run kubuntu / KDE.  Whenever I play music say through xmms/realplayer (when i stream radio off the net), and say i move a window around or i click a button, the system (kde) sounds mess up my music playing, and then it hits a repeated loop that sounds really bad.. in other words, i can only listen to music if i dont touch anything.. this is really annoying, and im wondering if there is anything I can do to fix it?10:21
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Jazoni am only getting ~500 fps from glxgears.  ATI Radeon X300... fglrxinfo shows at radeon x300 openGL version 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)10:21
yankeeWow... There is even an InstallFromWindows... Exactly what I need to avoid my dvd-drive...  I am still somewhat concerned about what happens when something fails during the installation after I already deleted the windows-partitions. But I guess, I risk it.10:21
Jazonany suggestions?10:21
yuggeHey, I'm haveing this (http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3175/picture012iy6.jpg) problem with my command line on my laptop. What do I have to do to get it fixed? :D10:22
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Jazonyugge: trying running in frame buffer mode maybe???10:23
yuggeJazon any help with doing that?10:24
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Jazonyugge: i am not familiar enough with the livecd - sorry m8....10:24
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yuggeJazon it's not the livecd...10:24
Jazondid it work with the livecd yugge10:25
yuggeJazon no10:25
Kr4t05Bah... ><10:25
Jazonyugge: heh - and you installed it anyway??? :P10:25
yuggeJazon well, once you get up to X it works perfectly. So i thought why bother10:26
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Kr4t05Does anyone here know anything about InitNG?10:26
yankee@lupine_85 thx a lot! That was so helpful!10:26
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Jazonahhhhh ok.  i get it now....  yugge, my brother in law has the same problem with an lcd screen for his desktop.  well, a *similar* problem.... we haven't solved it yet10:27
yuggeJazon thats bad...10:27
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yuggeJazon I wouldn't mind If I didn't need to recomplie the kernel in the command line. to get APM support.10:28
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hagusGreetings :)10:30
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yuggeGurb and everything else works perfectly. Isn't there a config file for the commandline I can look at?10:30
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sdfsaedcjhmhi10:31
lupine_85Hagus: no ;)10:32
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lupine_85apart from hearing various barbed comments about how speedy it is10:33
hagusI get your drift, lupine :)10:33
FedAgthey, has anyone had problems installing the 'build-essentials' .dep package?10:33
FedAgt*.deb10:34
Martijn81FedAgt: nope10:34
lupine_85 build-essential10:34
hagusok, ty lupine - catch you all later :)10:34
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lupine_85!build-essential10:34
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:34
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FedAgtthe pre built package doesnt work10:35
lupine_85it's a metapackage10:35
lupine_85just pulls in all it's dependencies10:35
lupine_85so your other option is to install each package that build-essential depends on10:36
lupine_85(easiest to do in adept, I guess)10:36
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FedAgti tried but they wont install either10:36
lupine_85then you've got a more general problem with your repositories10:36
lupine_85!repositories10:36
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:36
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FedAgtits a clean install though10:37
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Larynxo rly?10:38
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TheFuzzballhello, does anyone know where I can find a Inkscake 0.44 repository for Kubuntu?10:41
arepie!inkscake10:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inkscake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:41
TheFuzzballInkscape*10:41
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Philip5hehe10:42
arepielol.. :P10:42
TheFuzzball!Inskcape10:42
arepie!inkscape10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Inskcape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
ubotuInkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more10:42
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arepienot in the reps i guess..10:43
skavenge!info inkscape10:43
ubotuinkscape: vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.43-4ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 7201 kB, installed size 28184 kB10:43
TheFuzzballI know, but it is out of date10:43
skavengegoogle for an unofficial repo or deb or compile then i guess10:44
[GuS] TheFuzzball, i made a package for Kubuntu of inkscape 0.4410:44
A|i3Nhow would I go about compiling a program written in python?10:44
TheFuzzballGus: can you send it me?10:44
jdong_TheFuzzball: https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bug/5084110:44
Kr4t05If anyone out there is paying attention to me, can anyone tell me if they've gotten InitNG working with KDM?10:44
jdong_TheFuzzball: (explanation of why it's still out of date :) )10:45
[GuS] TheFuzzball, when i get home.. yes... i am at work rigfht now10:45
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skavengedoes anyone know of a definitive xgl howto that actually works and is current?10:46
FedAgttry the xgl channel?10:48
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Hawkwind!xgl10:48
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:48
skavengeHawkwind: im actually trying to use yours and am running into hiccups10:49
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Hawkwindskavenge: There are probably better ones out there.  I'd surely ask in #Ubuntu-XGL to see10:49
justjoshhow do you restart kde?10:49
Hawkwindjustjosh: ctrl-alt-backspace10:50
skavengeokay10:50
FedAgthow do i fix unmet dependencies when installing build-essential .deb?10:50
HawkwindFedAgt: How are you trying to install it ?10:51
HawkwindFedAgt: Hopefully, sudo apt-get install build-essential10:51
FedAgti cant get online, so i have to use the build-essential.deb10:51
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HawkwindFedAgt: Then you need to download the deps.  However, it should be on the CD I would think10:52
FedAgti have, they wont install tried the download one and the one on the cd10:52
FedAgtthey say they have unmet dependencies10:52
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redhow exactly do you install new themes10:57
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FedAgtno one knows how to fix it then?10:57
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HawkwindFedAgt: If you have all the deps in .deb format then dpkg -i file1 file2 file3 and so on should work11:00
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HawkwindFedAgt: I'd assume you don't have all the deps though.  Also, if you have your CD as a source, it should work from that using apt-get install build-essential11:00
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FedAgtHawkwind: will it? i tried in adept as well and it said the install was broken?11:01
Armagguedesfark11:02
Armagguedesmy firefox doesnt open some pages11:02
Armagguedesfor absolutely no reason11:02
EmergeTW_I am trying to get Amarok 1.4.2 installed but when I request an update it just says "BREAK (upgrade)" but I don't see any way to resolve the issue as it doesnt seem to show what other packages it would break to update it. any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks11:02
Armagguedesas it opened them before11:02
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ArmagguedesEmergeTW_ try uninstalling e everything amarok-related11:03
Armagguedesand then reinstall the latest version11:03
Armagguedesmight work??11:03
yuggeI got some questions. 1. Is there an easy way to enable ACPI? Grub tells me my bios do not have APM?11:04
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yugge2.Is there any solution to this http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3175/picture012iy6.jpg problem?11:05
reddwolf78could some please help get his file geexbox-1.0-lite.tar.bz2 intstalled i went ove the web site that was given to me and i don't under stand it11:05
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EmergeTW_Now if I try to install amarok, it says "BREAK (install)" =\ any more ideas?11:05
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ubuntutrying from CD, what an experience...11:07
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A|i3Ncan someone tell me or point me to a document that would tell me how to compile a python program?11:08
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reddwolf78i'm new with linux i have been on my linux system for about 2 weeks so  could some please help get his file geexbox-1.0-lite.tar.bz2 intstalled i went ove the web site that was given11:08
nixternalEmergeTW_: press your "auto synch" or "auto setup" button on your LCD11:08
vgereddwolf78: have you got is untarred?11:09
nixternalmine does that as well...11:09
ubuntuis there a certain subject, or just talking about kubuntu?11:09
reddwolf78i have it extrated to a file11:09
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Kr4t05!compiling > reddwolf7811:09
nixternalooh..that is a lappy...nevermind11:09
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A|i3N!compiling > A|i3N11:09
vgereddwolf78:  can you find a readme inside that folder?11:09
reddwolf78i have the web site and i don't under stand it11:10
reddwolf78i will take a look11:10
reddwolf78i found a readme11:10
yuggenixternal if that was to me, then, yeah =/11:10
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nixternaloh yugge, ya it was to you..sorry ;)11:11
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reddwolf78<vge> i did find a readme file11:11
vgereddwolf78: when your in the folder, is there "confiqure" file in it11:12
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reddwolf78<vge> i see a config folder11:12
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wolfmanzanyone here using TeamSpeak with the OSS-ALSA wrapper?11:13
vgereddwolf78: search a file named configure11:14
reddwolf78ok11:14
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reddwolf78brings up the folder11:14
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vgeis there a file named "configure" ?11:15
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reddwolf78nope11:16
reddwolf78there is one calded make file11:16
reddwolf78called*11:16
vgethen, use konsole and move into that folder11:16
reddwolf78how do i move in to that folder11:17
vgecd "foldername" moves yout to that folder11:17
vge"ls" lists folder content11:17
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reddwolf78tells me command not found11:19
vge"cd foldername" moves you to that folder if folder exists11:19
reddwolf78i'm in11:20
D4rklyhow do i get my konsole to save my user history ?11:21
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vgereddwolf78: your in that folder now?11:22
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reddwolf78yes and i see a config  but its writen in blue11:23
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jbeagleyhmm11:23
vgereddwolf78: different colours means different folder/file priviledges11:23
reddwolf78oh11:24
reddwolf78the config i see must be a foler then11:24
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jbeagleyhow can i read messages from kmail on a different account/without kmail?11:24
reddwolf78or something11:24
vgeno, file can be blue too, it's determiend what rights you have to that folder/file11:24
reddwolf78oh11:25
reddwolf78ok11:25
vgereddwolf78: you see that make file now?11:25
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reddwolf78Yes11:25
reddwolf78its in white11:25
vgethen type "sudo make"11:25
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D4rklydoes anyone know how i can fix my Konsole so it saves my commad history every time i close it ?11:26
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vgeD4rkly: second click the konsole window and choose history?11:26
reddwolf78it asked me to install something11:26
vgebuild-essentials?11:26
reddwolf78ok11:26
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vgeyou can find it trought adept11:27
jbeagleyi need some help with kmail11:27
D4rklyits enabled ?11:27
D4rklyunlimited11:27
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vgeD4rkly: actually i might have the same problem, but im using kuake, and it's opened all the time so i really dont close it :/11:28
D4rklydoes anyone know where the konsole history is saved ?11:28
HawkwindD4rkly: ~/.bash_history11:29
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reddwolf78<vge> do i have to get this set up everytime i have to make a file11:32
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vgereddwolf78: configure/make/make install is usually needed if your planning to install program from sources, but usually they can all be sound preinstalled11:34
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reddwolf78oh11:34
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reddwolf78this one program i need to intall i needed it to help me dj  from linux since i got rid of my xp system11:35
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D4rklyhow do i disply file permission using ls ?11:37
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aseigoD4rkly: ls -l11:38
D4rklythanks :)11:38
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vgereddwolf78: are you installing "GeeXboX ISO generator"?11:39
reddwolf78yes i found it on freshmeat.net and it wourks with shout cast11:39
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reddwolf78or did  i make the wrong choice11:40
vgeso you have installed the program allready?11:40
reddwolf78no whating for the make  thing to go finish installing11:40
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z00mgreetings all :D11:41
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z00mhows it going, anyone know where i can find the damn screen res settings i did find it once but i can't seem to find it now :D11:42
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supernix   /uptime11:42
supernixUptime: 5 days, 1 hours and 23 minutes11:43
D4rklyif your Konsole isnt saving its history everytime you close it you have to type this:         sudo chown user:user ~/.bash_history11:43
D4rklybash_history was set to root permissions11:44
z00mis this the max screen res 1024 x 768 in linux ?11:45
vgereddwolf78: you dont need to write the program from sources, you can use precompiled deb from: http://geexbox.org/en/downloads.html"11:45
reddwolf78realy i didn11:45
reddwolf78didn't know they had one already compiled11:45
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vgedeb http://www.geexbox.org/debian/ unstable main11:46
vgedeb-src http://www.geexbox.org/debian/ unstable main11:46
vgejust add those into your sources.list11:46
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reddwolf78my source list11:47
reddwolf78ok11:47
TheGateKeeperhiya z00m, max res is whatever your monitor / graphics card can handle11:48
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z00mTheGateKeeper: i just have the settings 1027 X 768 in mine thats the max11:48
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z00m1024 i mean11:48
TheGateKeeperz00m: ok11:49
z00mi have the acer AL1716 TFT11:49
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z00min windows it allows loads more than that11:49
z00mmaybe need the driver for linux11:49
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reddwolf78<vge> should i finish what i started with the make11:50
vgenaah, no need11:50
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reddwolf78or get the already compiled version11:50
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reddwolf78would it hurt if i just close out the konsole11:51
vgenope11:51
reddwolf78while its still running11:51
TheGateKeeperz00m: you could try modifying /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:51
vgereddwolf78: what is running?11:51
TheGateKeeperz00m: but back it up first11:51
z00mthere is acer model in the list but not mine, on settings11:51
reddwolf78the konsole is still running from when i typed in make and asked me to get a file11:52
z00mmy monitor is setup to plug-n-play11:52
nagyvdoes someone has any experiences running easyconnect (easyconnect.linuxuser.hu) under ubuntu?11:52
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z00manother thing, how do you find out what services are running on a port ?11:53
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z00mbecause i have some strange ports open here ... but they are set to locahost in netstat11:53
z00mconnected to localhost that is11:53
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reddwolf78should i stop it11:53
vgereddwolf78: yes11:53
reddwolf78how do i do that11:54
reddwolf78shut close out the konsole11:54
z00mwhere is the file where all the services start up on boot ?11:54
TheGateKeeperz00m: not sure you would probable need to take a look at iptables11:54
vgethere should be X button in righttop corner11:54
reddwolf78ok got it11:54
TheGateKeeper!iptables > z00m11:54
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z00mTheGateKeeper: strange in firestarter i have this11:55
TheGateKeeperz00m: that is your firewall from that you should be able to tell what ports are open11:56
z00msource:127.0.0.1      destination:127.0.0.1      port:328211:56
z00mthats under the active connections11:57
z00m:/11:57
ravenousanyone having problems with ubuntuforums.org?11:57
z00mplus IRC and kopete11:57
z00mbut i dont know what that service is that is connected to localhost11:58
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z00mstriange11:58
z00mstrange11:58
TheGateKeeperz00m: I have never really got round to examining iptables much, so I am not the best person to ask11:58
TheGateKeeperz00m: you could always shut the port, and see what doesn't work anymore12:00
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z00mTheGateKeeper: OK thanks for responding anyways ;) ... .. that connection has been there for a while and I'm just wondering what it is and have been since i saw it but don't know how to find out.12:00
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z00many ideas how to close it because all out connection are allowed on this computer12:01
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osohhi12:01
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TheGateKeeperz00m: doesn't firestarter give you an option to close a port?12:02
D4rklyis it possible to switch to display:0 (xorg) while running Xgl ?12:02
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z00mTheGateKeeper: no it does not12:04
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gan|y|medanybody here who is profound in gimp (i have already tried #gimp)12:05
soulrideruhm i can use it12:05
soulriderbut im not pro12:05
soulriderim better at photoshop, what do you need?12:05
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gan|y|medanyway. could you have a look at http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/tomcat1/ -> i cannot reproduce step 612:06
gan|y|medplease12:06
soulriderk, hang on12:06
jake1how can i tell what driver my wirless PCMCIA card is using at this time12:07
reddwolf78<vge> for some reasone i can't get the file to open with K3b to burn it to cd-r12:07
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Larynxhow do you open a terminal?12:07
Larynx:)12:07
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jake1my card is a Lucent Technologies Orinoco (which would make me assume it's using a orinoco driver) but i jst want to be sure12:07
soulridergan|y|med: what is it that you acnt reproduce exactly? dont you have hte filter or something?12:08
gan|y|medno, i am using gimp 2.2.x and i cannot choose under lighting effects the greyscale image for the bumpmap. it is not listed12:09
jake1anyone?12:10
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gan|y|medand the options for material are not exact, too. but i'll deal with that later12:10
soulriderok, hold on, im gonna have to dot he tut myself until i reach that point12:10
soulriderit will take me a few mins12:10

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