[12:11] <inteliwasp> finaly my laptop has wireless, 1 down 1 more to go   WOOT
[12:15] <lascar> i have an emergency: I may have fucked up my distro when i tried to install those damned nvidia drivers for linux
[12:16] <A|i3N> hey how hard is it to start a webserver on kubuntu? And which one do ya'll reccomend for the novice user? is Apache good?
[12:16] <slougi> install apache2, it will start automatically
[12:16] <slougi> you can then replace the standard start page etc. with your own stuff
[12:17] <A|i3N> Do I have to mess witha buncha security settings for my system, Slougi? In order for people to access the page
[12:17] <slougi> no, just install apache2
[12:17] <A|i3N> Cool, thanks :)
[12:17] <A|i3N> I'll play with it. hehe
[12:17] <slougi> open a port in the firewall if you have one
[12:17] <draik> slougi, is the setup hard for apache2?
[12:17] <slougi> apart from that, not that i know of
[12:17] <slougi> draik: apt-get install apache2
[12:17] <slougi> not much more
[12:17] <A|i3N> I don't know if I do or not - this is a stock kubuntu setup offa the latest cd
[12:18] <slougi> of course customization takes some effort, but it is not TOO hard
[12:18] <slougi> A|i3N: well, just try installing apache2 and then accessing it with e.g. firefox: http://localhost
[12:18] <A|i3N> yea I'm pretty experienced with computers, just new to linux. I'm a computer tech but mostly for windows
[12:18] <slougi> if it works, cool, if not, ask again :)
[12:19] <slougi> ok cool
[12:19] <A|i3N> .. so the setup shouldn't be a problem for me
[12:22] <lascar> I just installed a new video card and made an attempt to install the video drivers from the nvidia website.  The attempt failed because X was then running.  So I disable X and try again.  This next attempt failed as well because the installer could not detect my kernel version.  The wizard attempted to find an identifying one via the Internet, but that failed (surprise!).  So at this point, I'm like "fuck it, I'm gonna reboot."  Doing that
[12:23] <uranther> if i have kubuntu already installed on one HDD, can I install windows on another HDD and set it as slave or something and automatically be able to dual boot using kubuntu's boot loader?
[12:23] <slougi> lascar: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:23] <lascar> already installed
[12:24] <slougi> lascar: you don't need to install the drivers again then, just run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:24] <lascar> slougi: I've even reconfigured the xorg.conf file.  Now linux notices the new card, but everything else is still fucked up
[12:24] <lascar> slougi: did that too
[12:24] <slougi> what do you mean everything else is still fucked up?
[12:24] <A|i3N> ok so... i installed apache2... supposedly it's running ..... ? how do I get to it, just type apache2?
[12:24] <lascar> slougi: wi-fi, can't play games; it's like there's no 3d acceleration
[12:25] <slougi> uranther: you can install winxp on the other drive, but it will overwrite grub, so you need to reinstall it
[12:25] <draik> slougi, lascar, I suggest not swearing so that you don't get kicked for it
[12:25] <slougi> A|i3N: "get to it"?
[12:25] <uranther> how would it overwrite grub? even if i had the other hdd detached when installing?
[12:25] <lascar> draik: will do, sorry
[12:25] <A|i3N> How do I access the program to set it up lol
[12:25] <draik> thx
[12:25] <slougi> A|i3N: apache2 is set up using conf files ;) there is no graphical configuration utility
[12:26] <A|i3N> oh an.. what's a good graphical web editor for kubuntu? Is Mozilla composer pretty good?
[12:26] <A|i3N> oh.. lol
[12:26] <A|i3N> then, where do I find the conf files? lol
[12:26] <uranther> composer sucks from what i remember
[12:26] <T_Servo> just use emacs ;)
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> nvu - is a html editor
[12:27] <Martijn81> lascar: have your tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:27] <slougi> A|i3N: they're in /etc/apache2 iirc, the default web root is /var/www/apache2-default/
[12:27] <uranther> slougi: what if i have my kubuntu hdd detached?
[12:27] <lascar> Martijn81: yep, that's what got kubuntu noticing the new card in the conf file
[12:27] <A|i3N> ok cool thank you i guess i need to know this stuff.. is there perhaps an apache front end available?
[12:27] <Martijn81> ah ok
[12:28] <slougi> uranther: it will install fine then, but grub won't pick up windows automatically
[12:28] <uranther> slougi: do i have to tell grub to look for it?
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> but thats easy to fix. :P
[12:28] <slougi> A|i3N: as I said, you'll have to edit conf files :)
[12:28] <A|i3N> lol
[12:28] <A|i3N> damn. hehe
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> theres a example windows grub entry at the start of the menu.lst file. i just uncomment it.
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> that way windows is at top.
[12:28] <slougi> uranther: I am not quite certain, maybe reinstalling grub looks for it automatically, if not then yes, but it is not too hard
[12:29] <A|i3N> I'm guessing I edit apache2.cfg
[12:29] <A|i3N> er .conf
[12:29] <lascar> and under the "Devices" section, I've got to keep the value on "nv."  When I change it to "nvidia," the x-server dies
[12:30] <slougi> A|i3N: I'd suggest looking at some documentation, google will find lots
[12:30] <nonickname> is xorg release 70,000,000 version 11.0 X11R7.0 or X11R7.1?
[12:30] <slougi> nonickname: 7.0
[12:30] <slougi> lascar: well, that would be the answer why you have no 3d accel
[12:30] <nonickname> figures.. is there a way i can grab a package for 7.1?
[12:31] <T_Servo> A|i3N: If you have never looked at the apache setup before.. do what they say and read up first... by default you shouldn;t really have to edit anything
[12:31] <lascar> slougi: ok, what now?
[12:31] <Martijn81> lascar: assuming you already have reloaded X, i don't know, sry
[12:31] <lascar> Martijn81: ok, thanx anyway
[12:32] <slougi> lascar: ok do this... change it to nvidia, try launching X. it will write a log file to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Back that file up, change the driver back to nv, and post the log file at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:33] <slougi> meanwhile I'll have a smoke so hold on a minute...
[12:34] <doppelganger__> hey guys, would it be feasible to change my kubuntu version to ubuntu and not screw much up?
[12:34] <doppelganger__> because i see how many KDE-centric programs are loaded with kubuntu...  i'm just wondering how hard it would be
[12:34] <A|i3N> it looks as if my root directory is /var/www/
[12:35] <nonickname> guess i'll try my hand at building it...
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> I just mix and match the kde and gnome stuff... too many good apps to worry about. ;P
[12:35] <A|i3N> because when i go to localhost it comes up with a directory listing, the only thing that's there is /apache2-default/
[12:35] <Hawkwind> doppelganger__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <Hawkwind> doppelganger__: Then you can use Gnome all you want
[12:35] <doppelganger__> and XGL won't get confused, right?
[12:35] <nonickname> did you guys miss my question or was it just stupid?
[12:35] <Hawkwind> No idea.  I don't use beta software like that.  Ask in #Ubuntu-XGL
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> I missed your stupid question... ( Just kidding)
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:36] <doppelganger__> i just won't wanna hose this box too bad, i've spent a while setting it up
[12:36] <nonickname> lol
[12:36] <nonickname> i want X11R7.1
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Ick!
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:36] <nonickname> i'm trying to get by a problem with the xorg server
[12:36] <Hawkwind> Then run Edgy if you want 7.1
[12:36] <slougi> A|i3N: ah true, i just quickly installed apache2 here and took a look, so yes it's /var/www
[12:36] <nonickname> or something..
[12:37] <nonickname> is there a way i can update my current install to it?
[12:37] <SpAwN> !iso
[12:37] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:37] <A|i3N> slougi: what's funny is the HTML files are in /apache2-default/
[12:38] <InuDuelist> Hm. I spent 48 hours on Linux, without once going back onto Windows. I'm making progress. :P
[12:38] <Hawkwind> nonickname: If you want 7.1 you'd have to run Edgy
[12:38] <A|i3N> now to figure out how to tell this router which computer to route incoming port 80 to :)
[12:38] <nonickname> Hwakwind: meaning i need to reinstall kubuntu?
[12:38] <A|i3N> which should be quite easy.
[12:39] <nonickname> Hawkwind*
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> InuDuelist,  But you just Impled that you WENT back! Egads!
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[12:39] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:39] <lascar> ok, brb
[12:39] <slougi> A|i3N: I guess the packages move them out of the way by default
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> No edgy url yet.  heh
[12:40] <InuDuelist> Hm...
[12:40] <InuDuelist> nonickname: What IRC client are you using?
[12:40] <nonickname> konversation.
[12:40] <InuDuelist> Great.
[12:40] <Hawkwind> nonickname: If you really want to run beta software and a beta OS, then yes
[12:40] <InuDuelist> You don't have to write everyone's name out completely.
[12:41] <InuDuelist> Konversation has Tab Completion.
[12:41] <nonickname> ahh
[12:41] <nonickname> InuDuelist: thanks :D
[12:41] <InuDuelist> Sure.
[12:41] <nonickname> i just want wine to work with mame32k, to be honest
[12:41] <slougi> nonickname: no you don't need to reinstall, you can upgrade to edgy using apt
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> ick... why
[12:41] <nonickname> ahh
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> mame works very well under Linux. :)
[12:41] <nonickname> not mame32k =(
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> advancemame is nicer in some ways
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> better then mame32 even
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> and theres other mame front ends
[12:42] <nonickname> noo
[12:42] <nonickname> mame32'k'
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> whats so K about it. :P
[12:42] <slougi> kaillera?
[12:42] <nonickname> it has a kaillera dll :p
[12:42] <ravenous> kxmame!
[12:42] <nonickname> lol
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> So you can play PacMan online... Wow...
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:43] <nonickname> :D
[12:43] <nonickname> actually, i'm more of a mvsc guy
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> 'yes i mame, do you?'
[12:43] <nonickname> X_CreatePixmap fails if i run mame32k =(
[12:44] <nonickname> supposedly, the problem is related to x.org
[12:44] <archangel_> sup folks
[12:44] <A|i3N> hey refresh my memory guys.. if I have a DSL Modem going into a wireless router, it's the wireless router I need to access to change port forwarding, right?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Mame32 v0.67 (0414)+Kaillera client v0.9 (2.9Mb).
[12:44] <archangel_> need some help on my display
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. what version of mame32k ya got?
[12:44] <nonickname> .64
[12:44] <nonickname> it's the standard
[12:45] <nonickname> www.anti3d.com has a copy
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> I though make was up to like 1.0.4 by now.
[12:46] <nonickname> heh, nobody bothered to update 32k past .67, and no one uses that
[12:46] <nonickname> .64 is the standard
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> Ick. :P
[12:46] <nonickname> lol
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> well i was going to try it.. but aint going to bother now. :P
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> good luck
[12:46] <nonickname> why not?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> and i dont play the 'fighting games' either. :)
[12:46] <nonickname> hehe
[12:46] <archangel_> my mom is here visiting and thought my pc was off and hit the power button, and now it comes up in 640x480
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> MortalCOmbat = ick.
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:47] <nonickname> lol
[12:47] <nonickname> no mk
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> klax = da bomb.
[12:47] <archangel_> and now its the only option in display
[12:47] <nonickname> street fighter alpha 3, marvel vs capcom, samurai shodown 5, i think?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Mr Do! ownz you.
[12:47] <nonickname> lol
[12:47] <nonickname> i wasn't around for all of the old school ones
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> old-skool-fool.
[12:47] <Martijn81> Ali3N: yes (assuming the router actually is set to function as router and not downgraded in options to bridged)
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> I rember when they were NEW in the arcades
[12:48] <Hawkwind> LOL @ Mr. Do
[12:48] <nonickname> i HAD two atari's
[12:48] <nonickname> i don't know which numbers they had on em
[12:48] <pgquiles> after upgrading kubuntu from breezy to dapper, it no longer starts KDE (although default init level is 5 in /etc/inittab). What can I do?
[12:48] <archangel_> coleco - q-bert  rocked!!
[12:49] <nonickname> anyhow
[12:49] <Hawkwind> Hah!  I have Q-bert as well in my collection of about 50 Coleco games
[12:49] <archangel_> sweet
[12:49] <nonickname> slougi: how would i go about updating to edgy using apt-get?
[12:49] <archangel_> I wish they would make it as a linux game
[12:49] <slougi> nonickname: well, first off, be warned it is under pretty heavy development ;)
[12:50] <nonickname> i'll survive.
[12:50] <nonickname> i just installed the os a few days ago
[12:50] <slougi> nonickname: basically, just switch all mentions of dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:50] <nonickname> :D thanks, slougi
[12:50] <slougi> nonickname: if you have external repos, those might not have an edgy version yet
[12:50] <slougi> nonickname: after that, sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:51] <archangel_> need some display help
[12:51] <lascar> slougi: it's up
[12:51] <slougi> nonickname: using aptitude instead of apt-get is preferred since it has better dependency resolution
[12:51] <slougi> lascar: link?
[12:51] <nonickname> ahh
[12:52] <lascar> shougi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d21921
[12:52] <slougi> lascar: hmm, try "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[12:52] <archangel_> my mom is here visiting and thought my pc was off and hit the power button, and now it comes up in 640x480
[12:53] <lascar> shougi: anything else?  I'd like to minimize the number of reboots, if possible
[12:53] <slougi> lascar: if it doesn't barf, try setting the driver to nvidia and restarting X
[12:53] <slougi> you don't need to reboot :) just do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart to restart X
[12:54] <lascar> shougi: my internet connection is down in kubuntu because of all of this.  I'm using XP for emergency purposes.
[12:54] <lascar> brb
[12:55] <A|i3N> slougi: can you go to my IP with yer browser an see if you get my default directory? I needa see if I set up port forwarding right.
[12:55] <A|i3N> 69.220.224.8
[12:55] <slougi> ah, well the problem is that it is not finding the nvidia kernel module for some reason. this might be because your card is not automatically recognized for some reason, or you don't have the driver installed. make sure you have linux-restricted-modules installed
[12:56] <slougi> A|i3N: Index of /: apache2-default/
[12:56] <slougi> ;)
[12:56] <A|i3N> cool thanks
[12:56] <A|i3N> hehe
[12:56] <slougi> no problem
[12:56] <A|i3N> now - where would I go to set up my system for static IP so I always have the port forwarding forwarding to the right computer?
[12:56] <A|i3N> it's on DHCP now
[12:57] <nonickname> here we go :o
[12:57] <slougi> A|i3N: well, depends on how you're connected to the net
[12:57] <slougi> A|i3N: do you mean a static IP on your LAN or the net at large?
[12:57] <A|i3N> Linksys Wireless-B router
[12:57] <A|i3N> on my LAN
[12:57] <A|i3N> I'm hardwired into the router though
[12:58] <slougi> well, my router has an option to assign a static ip based on mac address using dhcp
[12:58] <slougi> that might be the easiest way if yours has one too
[12:58] <A|i3N> ok I'll check it :)
[12:58] <slougi> if not you could just set the default route etc. to be your router and skip dhcp
[01:00] <nonickname> http://rafb.net/paste/results/kQ3Hvd68.html :p
[01:01] <nonickname> i should probably just download a disk, lol
[01:01] <slougi> nonickname: well that's an option too ;) although at least for me the edgy upgrade was completely painless, I'm running it on laptop for X 7.1 also
[01:02] <nonickname> ahh
[01:02] <archangel_> Dr_Willis: you busy dr?
[01:02] <slougi> for other people it was a bit more troublesome, but I had a pretty fresh install so there were no complications...
[01:02] <nonickname> well, i haven't really done anything except insall/remove a few packages here and there
[01:03] <lascar> slougi: i got the following message: FATAL: Module nvidia not found
[01:03] <nonickname> i was having lots of problems when i tried to install the nvidia drivers, too
[01:03] <lascar> you too, eh?
[01:03] <lascar> how'd you deal with it?
[01:04] <nonickname> don't remember what i did, but it had to do with downoading a hack/patch for the install script, then doing some other odd things
[01:04] <archangel_> my mom is here visiting and thought my pc was off and hit the power button, and now it comes up in 640x480
[01:04] <slougi> lascar: hmm weird, do you have some custom kernel or something? cause nvidia-glx should pull that in automatically
[01:04] <nonickname> i was using the legacy nvidia drivers
[01:04] <archangel_> and the drivers are installed
[01:04] <lascar> slougi: nope, i've been doing it the repository way ever since i installed Kubuntu
[01:04] <archangel_> I dont understand why its doing this
[01:05] <nonickname> did you install it with x windows running?
[01:05] <lascar> deviated just this once for the updated nvidia drivers, and have i learned my lesson.
[01:05] <lascar> nonickname: nope, the installer wouldn't allow that
[01:05] <nonickname> ah
[01:05] <Martijn81> Ali3N: i don' t have linksys, but maybe this pulldown menu -> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WRT54GL/WRT54GL2.jpg
[01:05] <lascar> slougi: should i manually add the module in xorg.conf?
[01:06] <A|i3N> dang. Only thing I see slougi is under network address server setup, and I've got an option that says "Static DNS 1", 2 and 3 and "WINS"
[01:06] <slougi> lascar: there are two modules, one is for the kernel, one is for X, the kernel one is not being found
[01:06] <A|i3N> I can *block* computers by MAC address.. hehe
[01:06] <slougi> lascar: basically, X is configured correctly but the kernel driver is MIA
[01:07] <slougi> A|i3N: just set up a static config, K-menu -> system settings -> network settings
[01:07] <slougi> A|i3N: you should be able to figure it out ;)
[01:07] <lascar> slougi: perhaps the installer partially overwrote it?
[01:07] <A|i3N> I think so. :)
[01:07] <slougi> lascar: very possible
[01:07] <T_Servo> man I like 7zip compression... 3Gb 0> 475Mb
[01:08] <nonickname> :o
[01:08] <lascar> man, what do i do?
[01:08] <slougi> lascar: the problem is that you have no net access atm, can't you get the net up without a GUI?
[01:08] <lascar> nope
[01:08] <lascar> the connection completely topped out on me
[01:08] <InuDuelist> Mmm.
[01:08] <InuDuelist> I dispise homework.
[01:08] <InuDuelist> It's cutting into my Linux time.
[01:09] <A|i3N> Slougi do you think I can set an IP address that is beneath the range of the dynamic IP's assigned by the router? They start at 192.168.0.100, so I'm thinking I should set my ip to something like .99 or something
[01:09] <lascar> slougi: my wlan settings are configured perfectly, and I haven't touched them
[01:09] <slougi> lascar: well that's weird... were you using knetworkmanager or something?
[01:10] <lascar> yeah, but only for feedback
[01:10] <slougi> A|i3N: I don't think it really matters, you could try one way first, if it doesn't work use something to please your router :)
[01:10] <lascar> the nuts and bolts are through Kcontrol
[01:10] <slougi> lascar: hmm right, I don't have much wlan experience myself... anyway, you probably have a usb stick or something to transfer files with? or a FAT partition?
[01:11] <lascar> unfortunately, no
[01:11] <lascar> i've been making do with a dvd+rw
[01:11] <slougi> heh, right. but your network stuff should still work even with the nv driver, I mean the two are not connected
[01:11] <lascar> slougi: i know!  i'm completely baffled.
[01:12] <slougi> very weird, is your wlan card still detected? in what way does it not work?
[01:12] <lascar> slougi: do you think i should manually add the nvidia module?
[01:13] <lascar> slougi: it is detected, there's just no connection between it and the router under Kubuntu
[01:13] <slougi> lascar: no, I'd advise getting networking going and then just reinstall the nvidia stuff with apt
[01:14] <lascar> hmmm...i'll be back
[01:14] <slougi> lascar: weird, so basically it just doesn't detect a network? have you tried different tools? and how'd this break in the first place? :)
[01:14] <Agios> did you perhaps have it working then installed nvidia-glx or something that required linux-restricted-modules?
[01:14] <lascar> Agios: that may be it
[01:14] <lascar> i remember uninstalling and reinstalling restricted-modules a few times
[01:14] <Agios> linux-restricted-modules has wlan and nvidia updates in it.
[01:14] <TheA|i3N> WELL i guess the router likes it, I'm still online. lol. Can you try my IP address again slougi (or someone) 69.220.224.8
[01:15] <slougi> TheA|i3N: one sec
[01:15] <lascar> ah.
[01:15] <slougi> TheA|i3N: still works
[01:15] <Agios> so it could impact both even though they would seem to be unrelated
[01:15] <lascar> then that's almost certainly it.
[01:15] <TheA|i3N> ok now i'm in the channel 3 times. lol. Thanks for all your help Slougi
[01:15] <nonickname> is there a way to hide things from the taskbar when the current desktop isnt equal to the desktop that the taskbar item isnt on?
[01:16] <lascar> brb
[01:16] <slougi> no worries :)
[01:16] <nonickname> that the taskbar item is on*
[01:16] <Ethos> hi guys
[01:16] <slougi> nonickname: yeah in the taskbar properties
[01:16] <Ethos> best way to get steam working on unbuntu? :)
[01:16] <Agios> pour some water on it and heat it up :)
[01:16] <nonickname> slougi: thanks
[01:16] <Ethos> haha
[01:16] <slougi> nonickname: uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"
[01:16] <Ethos> ;)
[01:17] <nonickname> dunno why i didn't think of that :p
[01:17] <slougi> nonickname: well it's an annoying default to begin with ;)
[01:17] <nonickname> :p
[01:17] <nonickname> maybe there was fear of a virus that hid in the last desktop, minimised :p
[01:18] <nonickname> wtf
[01:18] <nonickname> konsole just gave me a tip of the day
[01:18] <slougi> I think it's just so that people who don't know how virtual desktops work don't lose apps by mistake
[01:18] <slougi> well turn them of then :p
[01:18] <nonickname> i know, but i've never seen a tip of the day for konsole before
[01:19] <nonickname> maybe it's the aptitude update
[01:19] <slougi> probably the kubuntu default settings are busted in edgy or something
[01:19] <nonickname> :p
[01:24] <SlimG> anyone know howto change the color of a word in a wikipage ?
[01:25] <Ranbee> hi, is aptitude the CLI of adept?
[01:26] <SlimG> Ranbee: afaik Adept use apt-get
[01:27] <Ranbee> oh, i'm using an installed version of nubuntu and wanted to use aptitude, but it's not there. i thought it might be part of adpet??
[01:27] <Ranbee> lol *adept
[01:27] <crimsun> nubuntu?
[01:28] <ravenous> they're all frontends for apt-get
[01:28] <Ranbee> http://www.nubuntu.org/
[01:28] <crimsun> (yes, known)
[01:28] <crimsun> aptitude _should_ be in the default seed
[01:28] <Ranbee> ravenous: do you know how i can use aptitude then?
[01:28] <Ranbee> it's not there
[01:29] <SlimG> Ranbee: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[01:29] <ravenous> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[01:29] <ravenous> assuming they're using the traditional ubuntu repos, ive never even heard of nubuntu
[01:29] <Ranbee> i'm sure i tried that :| i'll just check
[01:29] <crimsun> it's a derivative
[01:30] <T_Servo> HRM
[01:31] <Ranbee> OMG, i'm so sorry, it's already installed, i must have spelled it wrong...
[01:31] <T_Servo> is build-essential on the 6.06.1 CD.. or does it need to be downloaded?
[01:31] <SlimG> ravenous: wikipedia entry: nUbuntu or Network Ubuntu is a project to take the existing Ubuntu distribution and remaster it as a LiveCD and Full Install with tools needed for penetration-testing servers and networks.
[01:31] <ravenous> he posted the link, i understand what it is ;) i had just never heard of it
[01:31] <ravenous> T_Servo: should be on the cd
[01:32] <Ranbee> i know it's abit OT, but i'll post this once, screenshots for nubuntu
[01:32] <Ranbee> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=691&slide=3&title=nubuntu+6.06+screenshots
[01:34] <T_Servo> how would I go about installing?  sudo apt-get install build-essential  just gives an error that build-essintial wasn't found
[01:35] <Hawkwind> T_Servo: Make sure you setup all of your sources
[01:35] <Hawkwind> !repos > T_Servo
[01:36] <T_Servo> hmm
[01:36] <ravenous> if your cd is in the repo list it should pull it right off there, otherwise it'll take it off the net and build-essential is in the main repo so you shouldnt even have to configure anything to access it unless something's already been tampered with
[01:37] <T_Servo> I don;t think it is setup.. because something simple like "make" says it wasn;t found
[01:37] <ravenous> make is in build-essential
[01:37] <ravenous> it has to be installed first
[01:37] <T_Servo> yea, figured that.. just trying to figure out how :)
[01:38] <ravenous> im saying your repos should already be setup to access it unless they've been messed with
[01:38] <T_Servo> yea.. looking at that now
[01:38] <SlimG> anyone know howto change the color of a word in a wikipage ?
[01:38] <ravenous> make  sure your spelling it right as well, or open synaptic and search for 'build-essential' you could do as well
[01:40] <alex_> hello everyone
[01:40] <alex_> how do I update the kernel?
[01:40] <alex_> using adept?
[01:40] <T_Servo> hmm
[01:41] <T_Servo> don;t see a cd option
[01:41] <nagyv> alex_: adept notifier will notify you about a new kernel, and you just have to select it (AFAIK)
[01:42] <alex_> nagyv: automatically in the system tray?
[01:42] <nagyv> alex_: I think so
[01:42] <alex_> nagyv: ok, thanks
[01:43] <edju> Laptop's cd drive is dead, and no floppy drive.  Possible to install kubuntu from an empty partition or  from an external drive mounted via nfs?
[01:45] <alex_> I am getting this errors when trying to install the drivers from ati.com
[01:45] <alex_> Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[01:45] <alex_> Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[01:45] <alex_> Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[01:45] <mponce> hello need help kubuntu wireless WAP2 security
[01:46] <nagyv> alex_: are you sure that you need the ati drivers?
[01:46] <nagyv> mponce: try wpa_supplicant
[01:46] <alex_> nagyv: 100% positive
[01:47] <alex_> nagyv: it's a long story, I installed it successfully last time, but windows destroyed my linux partition so I am re-installing it now
[01:47] <alex_> nagyv: except for I am getting this error this time
[01:48] <nagyv> alex_: :( sorry, but I am not an expert, so I can not help, I use the free radeon drivers
[01:48] <alex_> nagyv: thanks nevertheless man, I need the drivers because I have a redeon X1400 on my laptop
[01:48] <alex_> nagyv: the old drivers don't support it
[01:52] <rouzic> Hi
[01:52] <rouzic> I have a problem
[01:53] <T_Servo> Ok.. I don;t see how to add the CD as a source in Adept :\
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> :)
[01:53] <Martijn81> rouzic: throw it out
[01:54] <red> how would I go about getting and installing drivers for my ati x1300 video card
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[01:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:54] <nonickname> uhm.. yea i did get errors upgrading to edgy
[01:54] <rouzic> I have installed LILO with the kernel 2.6.15-386 and later I have got up-to-date to the version 2.6.15-686. But on having started LILO it continues with the version 386
[01:54] <rouzic> Since I do to change the kernel of take-off?
[01:55] <red> nice
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> rouzic,  rerun lilo perhaps.. or edit the lilo.conf and fix it. then rerun lilo
[01:55] <nonickname> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[01:55] <nonickname>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[01:56] <rouzic> map=/boot/map
[01:56] <rouzic>  delay=20
[01:56] <rouzic>  append=noapic
[01:56] <rouzic>  image=/vmlinuz initrd=/initrd.img
[01:56] <rouzic>  root=/dev/sda3
[01:56] <rouzic> this is part of my lilo.conf
[01:56] <dta> heya
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> rouzic,  look at /vmlinuz  /initrd.img - they are most likely soft links to the kernel with the wrong version.
[01:57] <nonickname> slougi: uhh.. did you see that?
[01:57] <rouzic>  image=/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686
[01:57] <rouzic> Thats correct?
[01:58] <ravenous> T_Servo: under view -> manage repositories, you need to add a line for the cd, or you can do it in synaptic which i find easier since there's an 'add cdrom' button but whatever works
[01:58] <Martijn81> rouzic: with lilo you have to run some file after configuring it, dunno exactly since i use grub a lot lately
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> you rerun the command 'lilo' after changing the lilo config file. :P
[01:59] <rouzic> Do I add the version of the kernel in the lilo.conf?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> rouzic,  look where that kernel actually is at... most likely thats WRONG since its not in / its in /boot/
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> or change the soft links is an easier way
[01:59] <rouzic> Thanks Dr_Willis
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> You are reminding me why i like grub so much. :P
[02:00] <rouzic> I restart and verify if it works
[02:00] <ravenous> good protein
[02:01] <angasule> !sensors
[02:01] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[02:01] <T_Servo> ravenous: Is there an example of hos that is setup somewhere?  When I tried to setup the CD I got an error message
[02:04] <jcole> i get this installing kubuntu -> /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 42: 3: Bad file descriptor
[02:04] <T_Servo> or I can copy the file and right click, install
[02:05] <T_Servo> or not.. heh
[02:05] <lascar> slougi: it turns out that my wi-card isn't being detected afterall
[02:06] <red> i think i installed my ati drivers wrong because it doesnt allow the resolution that i had
[02:06] <red> where do i find the instructions to install the ati again
[02:06] <ravenous> T_Servo: mine looks like this -> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06_Dapper Drake_- Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted .. i dont see how its not under your repositories by default if you installed of the cd it should be there unless your sources.list has been tampered with
[02:06] <red> i know its 1680x1050
[02:06] <red> but it doesnt allow me to chose that
[02:07] <ravenous> the cd is the very first repo commented out on my adept repo list
[02:07] <T_Servo> I just finished installing it not 45 mins ago.. so no way it could have been tampered with
[02:09] <red> ati x1300 video card drivers
[02:10] <jan_> hello folks
[02:11] <jan_> i am new to linux/kubuntu
[02:11] <jan_> and i want to install maya
[02:11] <T_Servo> I'll do it the old fassioned way then... copy and paste and manual install
[02:11] <jan_> any help on that
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[02:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:11] <red> thanxs
[02:12] <jan_> guys any help on maya installation on kubuntu
[02:12] <ravenous> isnt maya a windows program?
[02:13] <jan_> yeah it has a linux version as well
[02:13] <jcole> maya runs on linux and irix unix too
[02:13] <jan_> i have got the rpms
[02:13] <jcole> maya is not for the faint of heart
[02:13] <mx> =(
[02:14] <mx> i'm running a terminal irc client
[02:14] <jan_> i have been using maya for almost 4 years now since its inception :)
[02:14] <ravenous> rpms arent going to work for ubuntu unless you can 'alien' them into debs but ive not tried nor want to
[02:15] <jan_> but i need to run it on kubuntu
[02:15] <jan_> do i have to download alien
[02:15] <ravenous> sudo apt-get install alien
[02:15] <jcole> ravenous: some lazy companies actually alien their distributed .rpm to .deb
[02:15] <mx> speaking of running things on kubuntu, can someone tell me what that command is to reconfigure the xorg configs?
[02:16] <mx> apparently edgy doesnt like fglrx
[02:16] <jcole> mx: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:16] <mx> thanks
[02:16] <jan_> thanks ravenous
[02:16] <mx> now, how do i copy things without a mouse..
[02:16] <jcole> mx: select "ati" driver
[02:16] <jan_> ill try this
[02:16] <jcole> mx: apt-get install gpm
[02:16] <mx> jcole: gpm?
[02:16] <jcole> mx: ya
[02:17] <mx> jcole: whats that :p
[02:17] <ravenous> jan_: i see some links on ubuntuforums.org on using alien to install on older ubuntu versions so it might work maybe want to search it as well
[02:17] <jcole> mx: mouse for text mode
[02:17] <mx> ahh
[02:17] <mx> thanks
[02:17] <mx> okay, one more question
[02:18] <mx> is there a way i can run multiple things at once in text mode?
[02:18] <jan_> thanks ravenous ill try that
[02:18] <ravenous> np
[02:18] <ravenous> adding & to the end of the program will run it in the background
[02:18] <jcole> mx: after you configure X with the "ati" driver, run this
[02:18] <jcole> mx: aticonfig --initial
[02:18] <mx> x_x
[02:18] <ravenous> otherwise open another virtual console
[02:19] <jcole> mx: ctrl-alt-(f1 to f6)
[02:19] <mx> :o
[02:19] <mx> :D
[02:19] <intelikey> ok i think i'm back...   now what was i gonna do? !
[02:19] <yonkeltron> talib kweli is golden
[02:19] <mx> ty jcole
[02:19] <mx> i could actually live in the console, if it had some good games..
[02:20] <charims> hi everyone, i was having a problem with my sound system, i would get no sound at all, and now, i just opened gaim instant messenger for the first time, and i had sound, so i went to play an mp3, and now i have no sound again :(
[02:20] <intelikey> mx it does.   and many of the games that you think require X can run in console
[02:21] <intelikey> !mp3 > charims
[02:21] <jcole> mx: "screen" is an app that lets you manage multiple apps in one text window
[02:21] <mx> i see
[02:22] <mx> hmm.. copy+paste?
[02:22] <intelikey> it's also not needed, you have some 128 consoles by default
[02:22] <T_Servo> hmmm
[02:22] <red> i fixed my drivers, i just didnt allow it to go that in depth during all of the detections
[02:22] <intelikey> mx gpm
[02:22] <red> this shit rules
[02:22] <mx> i've got gpm
[02:23] <TheA|i3N> hey this isn't kubuntu related but maybe one of ya'll would know this - is there a way to save a video off of a web site that loads via Java? Say there was a business presenation off of a company site that I wanted to use on my own site but it loads via java.. how would I go about saving it?
[02:23] <intelikey> left button highlight right button paste
[02:23] <T_Servo> g++-4.0 depends on libstdc++6-4.0-dev ... but libstdc++6-4.0-dev depends on  g++-4.0  .... o.0
[02:23] <mx> say i wanna highlight, then go into another terminal and right click..
[02:23] <mx> ahh, nice
[02:23] <T_Servo> TheA|i3N: check the source.. they may point to the video file in the page code
[02:24] <mx> intelikey: thanks, i didnt think it'd work between consoles
[02:24] <T_Servo> there are also some firefox extensions that may let you save the video
[02:24] <intelikey> mx welcome to the real linux (not that candy *** stuff in X)
[02:24] <ravenous> T_Servo: yeah thats not going to help because just installing 'gcc' deb for example isnt going to install the deps
[02:24] <TheA|i3N> well i looked but it doesn't make any sense to me
[02:24] <T_Servo> yea
[02:25] <TheA|i3N> firefox extentions ... hm
[02:25] <T_Servo> I am down to those two for installing... not sure how to get past this
[02:25] <T_Servo> gave up trying to get it to look at the CD
[02:25] <ravenous> you need to fix the repos and install it that way, like I said its in the main repo on the net as well if your not getting it from the web or cd then you've got another huge underlying problem
[02:25] <intelikey> T_Servo do an  sudo apt-get install -f
[02:27] <InuDuelist> I was about to attempt ot give ReactOS a shot, and then I saw screenshots.
[02:27] <InuDuelist> Nasty.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> heh heh
[02:27] <terry_> i was trying to install a printer, and it couldn't install the drivers because i didn't have suffcient priviledges, but i'm the only account.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> you need to use 'sudo' to do root-ish stuff. :)
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> or similer.
[02:28] <terry_> i still don't know what that means
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[02:28] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:28] <terry_> gracias..
[02:28] <ravenous> run 'sudo' before the command and enter your user password when it prompts
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> it means  kubuntu tries to be secure by default. :)
[02:28] <intelikey> hah
[02:28] <InuDuelist> Better yet, type in "sudo su" and become auto-root. It's yummy.
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> sudo -s
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:28] <ravenous> sudo -i ;)
[02:28] <intelikey> it means the default user is root-jr  is what it means
[02:29] <terry_> wait... what am i typing in?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> terry_,  depends on what you are doing.
[02:29] <terry_> trying to use the printer wizard.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> sudo command-to-run-as-root-user
[02:29] <InuDuelist> Does anyone know if ReactOS allows for the changing of the theme and/or skin?
[02:29] <InuDuelist> Because Windows Classic just isn't going to work for me.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> the kde printer config tool has a 'administrator' mode button.
[02:30] <NDPTAL85> Is ReactOS stable?
[02:31] <terry_> i don't see the adminstrator mode...
[02:31] <charims> hi everyone, i was having a problem with my sound system, i would get no sound at all, and now, i just opened gaim instant messenger for the first time, and i had sound, so i went to play an mp3, and now i have no sound again :( its not a codec issue, it has something to do with my sound card, i know this becuase i already downloaded the codedcs,m and now i also get no sound from gaim
[02:31] <InuDuelist> NDPTAL85: I'm not sure. All I know is that its 0.3.0 release has been made.
[02:31] <InuDuelist> Everyone's saying that it is, but I doubt it.
[02:32] <NDPTAL85> I keep thinking that if ReactOS gets halfway decent that MS will simply sue it out of existence.
[02:32] <InuDuelist> They can't.
[02:33] <InuDuelist> I don't recall exes to be copyrighted to them.
[02:33] <NDPTAL85> They aren't. But the overall design of the OS.
[02:33] <InuDuelist> Common design for many OSs.
[02:33] <NDPTAL85> Until they've been sued you can't assume that what they're doing is automatically legal. MS are the ones who created Windows first afterall. If anyone can sue those guys its MS.
[02:33] <intelikey> InuDuelist they will find something else to claim.
[02:34] <InuDuelist> intelikey: Maybe.
[02:34] <Hemerson> anhahom
[02:34] <jake1> hey i'm a first time kubuntu user, can someone tell me how to install themes
[02:34] <jake1> i have been using the gnome but thought i would try kubuntu instead
[02:35] <jake1> cuz i kinda like the KDE interface
[02:35] <charims> .
[02:37] <T_Servo> does this look right for the adept:  deb cdrom:pool/main/ dapper main restricted
[02:37] <intelikey> well i'm siriously considering adding a password to my user account.....  i like not messing with passwords but i can't get X worked out where user can use it reliably,  and i get tired of using root for any X activities.....   someone talk me out of it.
[02:37] <T_Servo> editing the final manually since adept doesn;t seem to like the cdrom
[02:38] <intelikey> T_Servo cdrom:///cdrom/pool/main/   ???
[02:38] <charims> what is a command to kill mpg123 when it is playing?
[02:39] <intelikey> ^c    or killall mpg123
[02:39] <kill4killin> does anyone know of a way that i can make my runcompiz.sh file that i made to start up xgl and compiz run when i start up kde?
[02:39] <ravenous> ps aux for the ID and 'kill' the process
[02:39] <charims> kk, thanks
[02:39] <intelikey> ravenous why not  kill `pidof blah`   ?
[02:40] <ravenous> more than one way to skin a cat
[02:40] <intelikey> top
[02:40] <ravenous> i prefer chainsaws *shrug*
[02:40] <intelikey> xtop
[02:40] <charims> haha
[02:40] <jott_> i prefer psdoom
[02:40] <intelikey> ksysguard
[02:41] <mx> mx@mx-desktop:~$
[02:41] <intelikey> or the M$ way    [ctrl] +[alt] +[del]    reboot    :)
[02:41] <mx> mx@mx-desktop:~$
[02:41] <mx> whoops
[02:41] <intelikey> mx want to change that ?
[02:41] <mx> lol, my bad, trying to figure out why links wouldnt accept a paste
[02:42] <manchicken> Is kubunto a 100%-free(speach) distro?
[02:42] <jcole> brb
[02:42] <terry_> !sh
[02:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:42] <intelikey> mx test this,    export PS1='\l [\u\$\h.\w]  '
[02:42] <kill4killin> does anyone know how i can add the runcompiz.sh file to the startup of kde?
[02:43] <TheA|i3N> anybody know where firefox's tmp folder is?
[02:43] <mx> you want me to execute that?
[02:43] <linuxkid2> anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[02:43] <intelikey> mx yeah   it changes the prompt
[02:43] <kill4killin> do "sudo updatedb" then do "sudo locate firefox"
[02:43] <mx> tty2 [mx$mx-desktop.~] 
[02:43] <intelikey> see
[02:43] <kill4killin> and then just look through all the directories that get listed
[02:44] <intelikey> :)
[02:44] <terry_> how do i run .sh files?
[02:44] <intelikey> sh file.sh
[02:44] <linuxkid2> kill4killin: add the script to ~/.kde/Autostart
[02:44] <kill4killin> linuxkid2 thanks
[02:44] <osiris> is there an app to tell what program is using bandwidth, and how much
[02:44] <linuxkid2> intelikey: at prompt, "./script.sh"
[02:44] <kill4killin> intelikey, you should just be able to do FILENAME.sh and if that doesnt work, sudo FILENAME.sh
[02:44] <mx> intelikey: i was actually trying to figure out why i couldnt paste into rafb's paste form using the highlight and right click method
[02:45] <kill4killin> you also may need to chmod +x the file first
[02:45] <Martijn81> osiris: iftop will do
[02:45] <intelikey> linuxkid2 and kill4killin you assume the file is executable.
[02:45] <linuxkid2> you do have to make it executable in the permissiones
[02:45] <ravenous> if its not executable you have to run sh
[02:45] <linuxkid2> the ./ thing works for non-execs sometimes.
[02:45] <intelikey> mx hold the shift and click
[02:45] <terry_> i'm about to rip out my hair.
[02:45] <intelikey> mx inside apps that grab the mouse you have to shift it.
[02:46] <TheA|i3N> actually, i guess i should ask: where is firefox's cache folder
[02:46] <linuxkid2> osiris: like top for the network?
[02:46] <osiris> thx, im trying it now
[02:46] <Martijn81> terry_: just tell us where it's bugging you
[02:46] <mx> ah, thanks intelikey
[02:46] <linuxkid2> I don't know if top does that, osiris
[02:46] <intelikey> linuxkid2 you don't have to chmod it to use   sh file.sh
[02:46] <ravenous> iftop does
[02:46] <linuxkid2> yes, that's right
[02:46] <linuxkid2> forgot
[02:46] <terry_> ok... so i'm trying to run this little file called install-sh from the terminal.
[02:47] <terry_> i've done all the change-directory things
[02:47] <terry_> i'm in the folder.
[02:47] <mx> sh ./install-sh ?
[02:47] <intelikey> sh file.sh
[02:47] <ravenous> so 'sh install-sh', or './install-sh' with no ''s
[02:47] <terry_> it says no input file specified.
[02:47] <ravenous> try mx's
[02:48] <linuxkid2> intelikey: yes I know
[02:48] <osiris> ok, now is there a way to see what file someone is downloading off apache ?
[02:48] <intelikey> one can   . file.sh    as well  but that's less secure
[02:48] <osiris> Martijn81, iftop works great
[02:48] <linuxkid2> No idea, haven't used apache.
[02:49] <terry_> ok, if i'm too dumb to run a .sh file, how do i install my hpdeskjet 940c without linux telling me i have the wrong privledge and/or the drivers don't exist? :)
[02:50] <Martijn81> osiris: yeah it's very configurable too (just hit h)
[02:50] <linuxkid2> anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[02:50] <nnn0> !mp4
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <mx> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ByZQIB75.nln.html
[02:51] <linuxkid2> !zeroconf
[02:51] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[02:51] <jake1> sorry
[02:52] <mx> E: Couldn't find package ati
[02:52] <jake1> anyways.......... can anyone assist me in installing themes
[02:52] <jake1> i'm new at this
[02:52] <jake1> new at kubuntu anyways
[02:52] <jake1> i've been using gnome
[02:52] <intelikey> mx  you followed the wiki ?
[02:52] <mx> uhm
[02:52] <intelikey> !ati
[02:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:52] <mx> ah
[02:52] <jake1> which normally i drag my tar.gz file to the theme manager and it installs
[02:53] <mx> you see, there is no fglrx driver either, as far as i can tell.. one sec
[02:53] <jake1> however i am not seemingly able to do that with Kubuntu
[02:53] <jake1> any ideas
[02:53] <terry_> hey um... where do you find your su password? :)
[02:53] <D4rkly> am i able to install linux-image-amd64-k8 if im running i386 version of kubuntu ?
[02:53] <intelikey> terry_ there isn't one.   use sudo and your users passwd
[02:53] <intelikey> !sudo
[02:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:53] <ravenous> jake1: run kcontrol, under appearance and themes, theme manager, click on 'install new theme'
[02:53] <mx> terry_: sudo passwd if you wanna cheat
[02:54] <mx> i'm not completely sure that that's safe at all though
[02:54] <Martijn81> bah, cheaters
[02:54] <intelikey> ummm mx they'll boot you out of here for that.
[02:54] <mx> :x
[02:54] <mx> sorry
[02:55] <intelikey> that's taboo  you don't tell people how to set the root password  it's against *buntu rules
[02:55] <intelikey> :)
[02:55] <mx> heh
[02:55] <mx> uhmm.. is there a way to reset the root pw, if, say, someone has already done that? ;)
[02:55] <ravenous> well not against the rules but point them to the root !bang is alot better and let them decide for themselves if they want to use it
[02:56] <intelikey> seriously there are some *butu zealotts that will putch a hissie about that.
[02:56] <ravenous> 'not reccomended' is more like it
[02:56] <intelikey> mx sure
[02:56] <intelikey> passwd -l
[02:56] <reddwolf78> hello can any one give me the easy ubuntu link
[02:56] <mx> ah
[02:56] <mx> thanks
[02:56] <intelikey> or acrually passwd -d && passwd -l
[02:57] <ravenous> learn to use apt-get instead, buuut ..
[02:57] <mx> now passwd -d -l?
[02:57] <ravenous> !easyubuntu
[02:57] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:57] <mx> not*
[02:57] <mx> ah, nvm
[02:57] <intelikey> you should lock a blanck password
[02:57] <intelikey> blank
[02:57] <terry_> ZOMG.
[02:58] <terry_> what's the user/pass thingy for cups & adding a printer?
[02:58] <terry_> i have never found adding a printer so hard in my life.
[02:58] <intelikey> the -d sets the passwd to blank   i.e. you don't need one.  then the -l locks it so you can't login that account.
[02:58] <mx> done
[02:58] <terry_> ..what
[02:59] <mx> time to find something new to do..
[02:59] <intelikey> terry_ the only password there is, is the one you set.    if it's asking for a passwoed it's asking for yours
[02:59] <mx> !video
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:59] <mx> hmm
[03:00] <terry_> ok, perfect. i know my password. unfortunately cups doesn't like it
[03:00] <intelikey> mx thought you were doing ati ?
[03:00] <mx> wtf
[03:00] <jake1> ravenous thanks... do i need to restart in order for the theme to take effect
[03:00] <mx> !ati
[03:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:00] <intelikey> yeah all the joy of being root-jr
[03:00] <jake1> i installed it, and i hit apply but nothing happened
[03:01] <mx> This version of Links does not contain SSL/TLS support
[03:01] <intelikey> mx elinks
[03:01] <terry_> i'm about to rape my printer.
[03:01] <mx> :D thanks
[03:01] <Martijn81> intellikey: man passwd say ->
[03:01] <Martijn81> -l, --lock
[03:01] <Martijn81>               Lock the named account. This option disables an account by changing the password to a value which
[03:01] <Martijn81>               matches no possible encrypted value.
[03:01] <ravenous> jake1: you may need to restart kde, yeah, i dont remember exactly havent switched in awhile
[03:02] <Martijn81> just -l might be enough
[03:03] <D4rkly> anyone know if i can use amd64-k8 with i386 install ?
[03:03] <terry_> somebody tell me why my printer just spits out blank pages.
[03:03] <terry_> :)
[03:04] <intelikey> Martijn81 -l is enough to lock it.  i'm not sure it will fix sulogin though.    sulogin is used in single user mode for emergency fixes, it normally asks for the root password; however *buntu uses a hacked sulogin that skips that if the root account is locked with no password,  i'm not sure it will work correctly if you don't blank the passwd first.
[03:04] <MetaMorfoziS> joccak al 1:30 mulva kelek
[03:05] <terry_> ok.. how do i remove a printer?
[03:05] <jilocasin> 'ello all
[03:05] <Martijn81> intellikey: thanks! :)
[03:06] <jake1> :-\
[03:06] <jake1> no theme change
[03:06] <jake1> i selected it
[03:06] <jake1> it installed
[03:06] <jake1> (no preview available)
[03:06] <mx> intelikey: wiki didn't help.. want output?
[03:06] <jake1> and then i tried to apply it,
[03:06] <jake1> nothing happened so i restarted kde and nothing happened
[03:06] <terry_> !cups
[03:07] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:07] <jake1> !themes
[03:07] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:07] <intelikey> mx i don't think i will be of any use on ati stuff, i've never owned ati *
[03:07] <jake1> !changethemes
[03:07] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE)
[03:07] <mx> intelikey: ah, well, thanks
[03:07] <mx> i think i already fixed this once before
[03:07] <intelikey> mx and i don't X very often
[03:07] <mx> lol
[03:07] <mx> (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)
[03:07] <mx> (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[03:07] <mx> (EE) No drivers available.
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[03:08] <Martijn81> terry_: please try to /msg with the bot and ask for info that way, it's makes the channel beter to read
[03:09] <jake1> any ideas why my KDE theme isn't changing whenever i select it
[03:09] <intelikey> Martijn81 why don't you help terry_ get his/her printer going,  been at it for two days now.
[03:09] <jake1> it shows up under the kcontrol theme manager but not in the system settings>appearance
[03:09] <jake1> theme place
[03:10] <Martijn81> intellikey: i don't have a printer at my computer, so i never tried and therefore i lack the knowledge
[03:11] <terry_> all i need to know is what CUPS wants as the username/password when i try to install a printe.r
[03:11] <terry_> i put in terry/ then the pass, and it doesn't work.
[03:11] <terry_> but the pass using the sudo commands works fine.
[03:11] <Search4Lancer> grrr.... windows keep disappearing from my alt+tab list....
[03:11] <intelikey> terry_ local printer ?    you are installing a network printer ?
[03:11] <terry_> local.
[03:11] <terry_> usb.
[03:12] <intelikey> are you sure you are not in the network section of cups config ?
[03:12] <jilocasin> can anyone point me in the direction to info on restoring grub?
[03:12] <terry_> pretty sure..
[03:13] <terry_> CUPS at localhost.
[03:13] <intelikey> no local printer   not cups @ anythinf
[03:13] <intelikey> g
[03:13] <terry_> ..what?
[03:13] <intelikey> local printer
[03:14] <intelikey> no, local printer;   not cups @ anything.
[03:14] <intelikey> punctuation helps...
[03:14] <terry_> oh...
[03:14] <terry_> well how else am i supposed to delete a printer driver that doesn't work?
[03:14] <jake1> no one knows how to install themes???????
[03:15] <reddwolf78> when i run the easyubuntu i get an error could someone help me with it
[03:15] <a212359> ?
[03:16] <intelikey> terry_ give me about 5 minutes.  i'll be back and try to walk you through it.    take a break and get a drink of water or something.
[03:16] <terry_> sounds like a deal.
[03:16] <intelikey> i have to fire up another box.  back in a bit.
[03:16] <reddwolf78> pastebin
[03:17] <reddwolf78> !pastebin
[03:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:18] <linuxkid2> anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[03:18] <reddwolf78>  when i run the easyubuntu i get an error could someone help me with it i but my error message here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21934
[03:18] <Martijn81> jake1: yes, do to kde-look.org, download a theme rated for you KDE version and install it the way ravenous said.
[03:18] <Martijn81> *go
[03:19] <jake1> how do i tell what version of KDE I have
[03:20] <jake1> ?
[03:20] <jake1> oops
[03:20] <jake1> nvm
[03:20] <jake1> found it
[03:20] <Hawkwind> jake1: Click on the Help -> About of any KDE app
[03:20] <Jucato> reddwolf78: is Adept running while you try to run EasyUbuntu?
[03:20] <mx> how do i get drivers that work with ati cards in edgy =/
[03:20] <reddwolf78> the first time no
[03:20] <reddwolf78> then i tried with it running
[03:20] <linuxkid2> jake1: unless you've manually upgraded, it's KDE 3.4.2
[03:21] <linuxkid2> 3.5.2
[03:21] <linuxkid2> err
[03:21] <Jucato> reddwolf78: don't run EasyUbuntu while Adept or apt-get is running
[03:21] <reddwolf78> ok
[03:21] <linuxkid2> anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[03:21] <reddwolf78> i will try it again then
[03:22] <Jucato> mx: if you're using edgy, you might want to ask for help in #ubuntu+1
[03:22] <jake1> mine says 3.5.2
[03:22] <jake1> oh
[03:22] <jake1> hehe
[03:25] <mx> Jucato: thanks
[03:25] <InuDuelist> Hey, Jucato's back.
[03:25] <Jucato> ehehehe!!!
[03:25] <InuDuelist> ... Did you even leave?
[03:26] <Jucato> hmm... yeah, for about 8 hours? ehehe
[03:26] <InuDuelist> You left?
[03:26] <linuxkid2> anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[03:26] <InuDuelist> Seriously?
[03:26] <InuDuelist> Like, sign off?
[03:27] <Jucato> um... I had to sleep...
[03:27] <InuDuelist> Great.
[03:27] <Jucato> why?
[03:27] <InuDuelist> Did you sign off, close Konversation (or whatever IRC Client you use)?
[03:27] <Jucato> InuDuelist: yes. why?
[03:27] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[03:27] <Tokeiito> labanaktis (good night)
[03:27] <InuDuelist> I didn't see your "Jucato signed on" message.
[03:27] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[03:28] <InuDuelist> Found it.
[03:28] <InuDuelist> Nevermind.
[03:28] <Jucato> hmm....
[03:28] <Jucato> lol
[03:28] <Jucato> I'm on your Watched Nicknames?
[03:28] <linuxkid2> Anyone know how to get windows machines talking ZeroConf? Besides Apple Bonjour?
[03:29] <erov> big brother O_o
[03:29] <linuxkid2> Anyone?
[03:29] <InuDuelist> erov: "big brother"?
[03:30] <erov> wrong window /window next
[03:30] <Jucato> ehehe
[03:30] <reddwolf78> that worked this time thanks for the tip
[03:30] <InuDuelist> Heh.
[03:30] <reddwolf78> i have one other question
[03:31] <reddwolf78> how do i set up for djing on a online radio from linux
[03:31] <Jucato> reddwolf78: just make sure that whenever you're trying to run something that installs packages, make sure that nothing else that also installs packages is running
[03:31] <reddwolf78> ok
[03:31] <linuxkid2> !zeroconf
[03:31] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[03:31] <linuxkid2> hmmm.
[03:33] <reddwolf78> linuxkid was that ment for me
[03:33] <linuxkid2> what? the zeroconf? no
[03:34] <linuxkid2> Just my own research.
[03:34] <mx> intelikey: no answer
[03:34] <reddwolf78> ok
[03:35] <Jucato> btw, you can make ubotu PM you the result of your query by doing !<query> > <nickname>, something like !mp3 > Jucato
[03:35] <linuxkid2> oh, good Idea
[03:35] <linuxkid2> It's like the shell
[03:35] <Jucato> yep
[03:35] <Jucato> redirection
[03:36] <ravenous> or just msg him what you want to know about ;)
[03:36] <reddwolf78> i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux
[03:36] <mx> wow.. deja vu
[03:37] <mx> i think i actually told someone about being in an irc room from a terminal, something i've never done until now
[03:37] <Jucato> irssi is a very kool IRC client for the command line
[03:37] <linuxkid2> Could Avahi possibly be compiled on windows?
[03:37] <mx> Jucato: yep
[03:38] <terry_> Ok, printer problem is fixed.
[03:38] <terry_> to whomever cares.
[03:38] <charims> Hi everyone, i have a sound problem, and i could really use some help, It's not a codec problem, the specifics are at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1434779#post1434779
[03:38] <mx> had zero learning curve, aside from figuring out that alt+number switches between windows
[03:39] <mx> would anyone mind helping me with edgy?
[03:39] <intelikey> !add-printer
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about add-printer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <intelikey> mx i miss something ?
[03:39] <InuDuelist> !addprinter
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addprinter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <InuDuelist> It was worth a shot.
[03:40] <intelikey> !printing
[03:40] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:40] <mx> i typed /exit trying to leave a room and killed irssi
[03:40] <InuDuelist> >__>
[03:40] <InuDuelist> <__<
[03:40] <intelikey> hehhe yep   /part #channel
[03:40] <mx> ah
[03:40] <mx> i was doing /leave
[03:41] <reddwolf78> i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable
[03:41] <Agios> charims: try playing with the mixer settings. Sound is obviously working.
[03:41] <mx> reddwolf78: what exactly were you doing from windows?
[03:42] <charims> ty Agios, will try that
[03:42] <intelikey> mx tried epic bitchx xchat-text ?   other irc clinets that work in consoles
[03:42] <reddwolf78> well from my old xp i was running sam cast to dj songs and i was woundering if i could do the same thing from linux
[03:42] <mx> intelikey: bitchx is a bitch to run :p
[03:42] <intelikey> mx xchat-text is almost to geeky for me...
[03:42] <Dyegov> Hi I have problems, I have just installed kubuntu, but I can't access my old Windows system, what can I do?
[03:43] <maltaethiron> uh oh
[03:43] <maltaethiron> dyegov: did you do a partition install or a complete install?
[03:43] <mx> reddwolf78: sam cast?
[03:44] <Dyegov> When I was installing kubuntu, it gave me the option of reiszing the existing partion and use the space left
[03:44] <maltaethiron> hmm
[03:44] <maltaethiron> anyone here good with dual boot?
[03:45] <intelikey> what ya need maltaethiron ?
[03:45] <Dyegov> I just can't lose my windows, I have a lot of important files
[03:45] <maltaethiron> dygov needs help
[03:45] <reddwolf78> its a program to help with getting music online for people to here it
[03:45] <Dyegov> I'm the one who needs help with dual boot
[03:45] <maltaethiron> dyegov* needs
[03:45] <charims> Hey Agios, tryed both Kmix and Alsamixer, nothing is muted, everthing is up all the way.
[03:45] <terry_> anybody successfully running firefox under WINE with java working?
[03:46] <InuDuelist> ...
[03:46] <InuDuelist> Why are you running Firefox under Wine?
[03:46] <Eeyore> sup
[03:46] <intelikey> Dyegov important files should never be entrusted to hd only; Xpecally when playing with disk tools.
[03:46] <terry_> to get java working. lol
[03:46] <charims> So, my question is, why did the sound work when the computer just started, but when i tried to play an MP3, everything just stopped making sound
[03:46] <terry_> i can't get java working under reg.
[03:46] <Dyegov> Can somebody help me?
[03:46] <mx> my forehead hurts =(
[03:46] <archangel_> intelikey: hey dude, you busy?
[03:46] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, sure.
[03:47] <InuDuelist> What exactly happened?
[03:47] <intelikey> archangel_ yes and no...
[03:47] <Dyegov> I have just installed kubuntu, but now I can't access my windows
[03:47] <archangel_> I cant figure out'why' I have a problem
[03:47] <InuDuelist> Oh?
[03:47] <Dyegov> kubuntu gave me the option of resizing the existing partition and use the left space and I did it
[03:47] <InuDuelist> Did you use the graphical installer?
[03:48] <Dyegov> yes
[03:48] <Dyegov> I'm pretty new at this
[03:48] <InuDuelist> Don't worry, so was I.
[03:48] <InuDuelist> A year ago.
[03:48] <archangel_> intelikey: my mom pushed power on my pc thinking it was off
[03:48] <Dyegov> I need dual boot in order to use both systems
[03:48] <InuDuelist> You do.
[03:48] <intelikey> Dyegov start with this      fdisk -l     and make sure the partitions are all recognized and you know the names of them.
[03:48] <InuDuelist> When you start your computer up, what comes up?
[03:48] <InuDuelist> OK, let him handle it.
[03:49] <InuDuelist> If you need anything else, let me know.
[03:49] <archangel_> intelikey: well, it wasnt, and when it rebooted, it cant display anything over 640x480
[03:49] <Dyegov> But I didn't understand what I have to do
[03:49] <InuDuelist> Open a terminal.
[03:49] <charims> When someone has a chance, i could use some help with ym sound system.
[03:49] <Dyegov> also I doesn,'t say anything, just enters linux
[03:49] <Dyegov> wait
[03:49] <InuDuelist> Uh, oh.
[03:49] <intelikey> archangel_ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:49] <Dyegov> ok, I'm in terminal
[03:49] <InuDuelist> Mmm, yakuake.
[03:50] <InuDuelist> OK.
[03:50] <archangel_> intelikey:  ok
[03:50] <terry_> Anyone know how to get Java working with firefox
[03:50] <InuDuelist> Now, type in "fdisk -l" minus the quotes.
[03:50] <terry_> ?
[03:50] <InuDuelist> Do you see your windows partition?
[03:51] <reddwolf78>  i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable  i used to run sam cast a program that let you put music out to the net to ppl can hear it
[03:51] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, do you see your windows partition?
[03:51] <Dyegov> wait
[03:51] <InuDuelist> Ok.
[03:51] <intelikey> Dyegov looking for 'ntfs' partitions.   take note of the  '/dev/hd**'
[03:52] <InuDuelist> Sorry for rushing you, but can you explain which step you are currently at?
[03:52] <Dyegov> nothing happens
[03:52] <InuDuelist> ...
[03:52] <InuDuelist> You opened terminal.
[03:52] <intelikey> terry_ did you get my msg ?
[03:52] <InuDuelist> Right?
[03:52] <Dyegov> is it an "L" or an i
[03:52] <terry_> yes, i figured it out :)
[03:52] <InuDuelist> "L".
[03:52] <InuDuelist> Lowercase, though.
[03:52] <terry_> i was trying to manage printers through the webbrowser, but i had to go to system, THEN manage printers.
[03:52] <terry_> now i'm onto installing java :)
[03:52] <Dyegov> yeah, I write that and nothing happens
[03:53] <InuDuelist> ...
[03:53] <terry_> whats that command that gives you superuser powers?
[03:53] <InuDuelist> Is fdisk a sudo command?
[03:53] <intelikey> !java > terry_
[03:53] <InuDuelist> Anyone remember?
[03:53] <intelikey> InuDuelist if it doesn't list then you can prepend sudo
[03:53] <InuDuelist> intelikey: Is fdisk a sudo command?
[03:53] <Dyegov> I'm lost!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:53] <intelikey> or append the hd  /dev/hda  for exapmle
[03:53] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, type in "sudo fdisk -l"
[03:54] <charims> yes, it is a sudo command
[03:54] <charims> had to check myself ;)
[03:54] <InuDuelist> OK.
[03:54] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, did a little "Password:" come up?
[03:54] <Dyegov> It worked, but without sudo
[03:54] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[03:54] <Dyegov> I was not looged as root 
[03:54] <erov> it'd directly affect the hard drive of course it needs root access :p
[03:54] <InuDuelist> that's what sudo does.
[03:55] <InuDuelist> su means root.
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Or so, I think.
[03:55] <InuDuelist> That's what I think of it as.
[03:55] <Dyegov> Ok, I found 1 NFTS partition
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Good.
[03:55] <charims> YAY!!!!
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Does it match the qualities of your Windows partition?
[03:55] <intelikey> su=switch user   or   super user  depending on how it's applied.
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Size, and everything?
[03:55] <Dyegov> yeah
[03:55] <Dyegov> exactly
[03:55] <shulman> how do I make the icons on my desktop smaller?
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Good.
[03:56] <charims> maybe he didnt get grub installed
[03:56] <InuDuelist> Did you get any message about the installation of GRUB?
[03:56] <intelikey> shulman kcontrol knows a way.
[03:56] <InuDuelist> GRUB is the boot manager, by the wya.
[03:56] <Dyegov> yeah, when kubuntu was finishing, it said it was intalling GRUB
[03:56] <InuDuelist> way*
[03:56] <InuDuelist> Did it?
[03:56] <Dyegov> yeah, when kubuntu was finishing, it said it was intalling GRUB
[03:56] <InuDuelist> But when you start your computer, it just boots straight into Kubuntu?
[03:56] <intelikey> Dyegov do you see ntfs partitions yes or no ?
[03:56] <Dyegov> yes
[03:56] <charims> have you watched it boot
[03:57] <InuDuelist> intelikey: He said he did.
[03:57] <Dyegov> yes, I see 1 NFTS partition
[03:57] <charims> there is a ten second wait for you to choose windows or linux
[03:57] <archangel_> intelikey: is there a part 2?
[03:57] <intelikey> ok now do  less /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:57] <Dyegov> no, there's not
[03:57] <charims> kk
[03:57] <InuDuelist> Alright, did you watch it boot? Did it pop up a screen, or did it just boot straight (like, immediately) into Windows?
[03:57] <InuDuelist> Er, Kubuntu?
[03:57] <intelikey> archangel_ restart x
[03:57] <Agios> charims: kmix has some switches too. Play with them as well.
[03:57] <archangel_> I did
[03:57] <Dyegov> it boot straight into linux
[03:57] <terry_> the apt-get command for sun-java5-bin doesn't work, does anyone else know what it would be?
[03:57] <InuDuelist> Alright.
[03:58] <charims> Agios: I did  :(
[03:58] <archangel_> intelikey: I get the same 640x480
[03:58] <shulman> perfect. thanks!
[03:58] <InuDuelist> I don't know how to handle GRUB problems, but intelikey might.
[03:58] <archangel_> oh wait, I didnt try to change it
[03:58] <InuDuelist> I can almost guarantee that this is a GRUB problem.
[03:58] <InuDuelist> Don't worry, you haven't lost Windows. ;)
[03:58] <reddwolf78> i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable  i used to run sam cast a program that let you put music out to the net to ppl can hear it
[03:58] <Dyegov> Thanks
[03:59] <Dyegov> But what can I do?
[03:59] <archangel_> intelikey: yeah, I cant get anyhting higher
[03:59] <intelikey> dyegov do  less /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:59] <kRush> hi, someone running keepassx under amd64?
[03:59] <Dyegov> what's that?
[03:59] <InuDuelist> It's a command.
[03:59] <InuDuelist> Like "fdisk -l"
[03:59] <Dyegov> wait
[03:59] <intelikey> Dyegov look for windows listing  toward the bottom.
[04:00] <InuDuelist> Look for any listing.
[04:00] <archangel_> I have the bigest icons on the planet
[04:00] <InuDuelist> intelikey: He said it boots straight into Kubuntu, that means that there's only one listing.
[04:00] <archangel_> ray charles could see them
[04:00] <intelikey> InuDuelist no it doesnt
[04:00] <InuDuelist> It doesn't?
[04:01] <InuDuelist> Like I said, I can't really handle GRUB problems.
[04:01] <InuDuelist> I'm liable to be wrong from this point on.
[04:01] <Dyegov> It doesn't say windoes
[04:01] <InuDuelist> What does it say?
[04:01] <Dyegov> ubuntu 3
[04:01] <Dyegov>  times
[04:01] <intelikey> archangel_ if you configured X properly (the monitor section most of all) then it should work   you can  sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:01] <InuDuelist> Great.
[04:01] <InuDuelist> That means you're missing the Windows.
[04:02] <InuDuelist> intelikey should help you get that in there.
[04:02] <InuDuelist> intelikey: Do that.
[04:02] <Dyegov> please
[04:02] <InuDuelist> :P
[04:02] <intelikey> Dyegov ok you need to add a windows entry.
[04:02] <InuDuelist> Don't worry, it's a minor problem. Should be fixed relatively soon.
[04:02] <archangel_> grrrr,   ok
[04:02] <intelikey> Dyegov do this    sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:03] <intelikey> InuDuelist you dual boot ?
[04:04] <D4rkly> how do i hide the title bar on a specific window ?
[04:04] <archangel_> wow, over my head
[04:04] <Jucato> intelikey: why "sudo kate"??
[04:04] <Dyegov> It saisa thare were a lot of preblems and nothin happens
[04:04] <archangel_> same here
[04:04] <Dyegov> "No database avalible"
[04:04] <InuDuelist> Jucato, you need to be root to save those files.
[04:04] <Jucato> !kdesu
[04:04] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:04] <InuDuelist> Ah.
[04:04] <intelikey> Jucato he needs to add a line for windows in menu.lst
[04:05] <intelikey> and don't tell me sudo wont work on that one...
[04:05] <Jucato> intelikey: see what ubotu spit out...
[04:06] <Dyegov> I'm lost again T_T
[04:06] <intelikey> Jucato i wrote part of that.
[04:06] <InuDuelist> Dyegov: Type in "kdesu /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[04:06] <InuDuelist> Heh.
[04:06] <InuDuelist> Desu.
[04:06] <Jucato> "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[04:06] <InuDuelist> Developers, developers, developers, developers.
[04:06] <InuDuelist> Oh, close enough.
[04:06] <intelikey> :)
[04:06] <erov> !
[04:06] <reddwolf78> i dj on sat nights and just got ride of my xp system so is there a way to dj from linux could someone let me know if it is possable  i used to run sam cast a program that let you put music out to the net to ppl can hear it
[04:06] <reddwolf78> jusat whating in line
[04:07] <Jucato> intelikey: ok. if you say so
[04:07] <reddwolf78> just*
[04:07] <archangel_> what is the command to configure x?
[04:07] <Jucato> archangel_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:07] <archangel_> col thanx
[04:07] <Dyegov> it deny me the access 
[04:07] <archangel_> linux makes me feel like a retard
[04:08] <archangel_> <-----  straight from windows
[04:08] <Jucato> archangel_: coz that "other" OS usually turns its users into that...
[04:08] <red> i want some different themes
[04:08] <Dyegov> Ok, intelikey, it's opened
[04:08] <red> whats the easiet way to get some new ones
[04:08] <intelikey> Dyegov (lets keep the help happy)   try  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:08] <archangel_> Jucato: lol
[04:08] <intelikey> ok
[04:08] <InuDuelist> archangel_: I barely used Linux for a year. I'm still learning it (as you can see from my crap help above).
[04:08] <Jucato> What are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:08] <InuDuelist> But... I didn't spend much time practicing.
[04:09] <intelikey> Dyegov now you need to add a line at the bottom
[04:09] <Dyegov> what line?
[04:09] <reddwolf78> for help
[04:10] <red> also is there like a net stumbler program for kubuntu
[04:10] <archangel_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[04:10] <intelikey> Dyegov  title Windows xp
[04:10] <archangel_> ajor opcode:  147
[04:10] <archangel_> and "3"
[04:10] <Jucato> archangel_:
[04:10] <intelikey> Dyegov   root (hd0,0) chainloader+1
[04:11] <Jucato> archangel_X Error Messages? Read this: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[04:11] <archangel_> do I still do the xconfig?
[04:11] <archangel_> k
[04:11] <archangel_> thanks
[04:11] <Jucato> archangel_: what xconfig?
[04:11] <intelikey> Dyegov    boot
[04:11] <Jucato> oooh actinic!
[04:11] <archangel_> I mean xorg
[04:12] <reddwolf78> when someone gets the time could they help me out find out some information
[04:12] <archangel_> it seems to be doing nothing
[04:12] <intelikey> Dyegov did you get all three lines ?
[04:12] <Dyegov> yes
[04:12] <D4rkly> how can i hide an apps frame ?
[04:12] <Jucato> archangel_: have you done the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing?
[04:12] <archangel_> all the pc did was reboot (hard reboot) and it does all this
[04:12] <intelikey> Dyegov save and exit.
[04:12] <CatSoup> Can anyone point me in the direction of installing ATi drivers?
[04:12] <Dyegov> (hd0,0) chainloader+1
[04:12] <actinic> yo Jucato!
[04:12] <InuDuelist> Save is still Ctrl+S, if it makes you happy. :P
[04:13] <Jucato> !ati > CatSoup
[04:13] <Dyegov> exactly like that all toghether?
[04:13] <charims> hi guys, i have a sound problem, sound worked for a minute or so today when i started my pc, i have a Nvidia CK8 and i am using Alsa Snd-intel8x0 for the driver. So, sound worked until i went to test an mp3, and then all sounds went quiet including gaim :(   Its not a codec problem, and both Kmix and alsamixer are turned up full and unmuted.
[04:13] <Dyegov> (hd0,0) chainloader+1
[04:13] <Dyegov> exactly like that all toghether? (This line)
[04:13] <Dyegov> (hd0,0) chainloader+1
[04:13] <archangel_> yeah, and it did nothing, unless I did it wrong, but I dont see how. Its pretty straight forward Jucato
[04:13] <intelikey> Dyegov that needs  root (hd0,0) chainloader+1
[04:13] <intelikey> root
[04:13] <Dyegov> I've saved the file
[04:14] <D4rkly> my kxdocker app is appearing in a window now for some strange reason how can i hide kxdockers frame is the some kind of key combo ?
[04:14] <AZ_AS> hi all, a complete n00b to kubuntu here...and need some help with adding repositories so that I can install the programs from the dapper package list I saw on the site...apt-get and adept aren't showing some packages, and it's my understanding that the repositories need to be added
[04:14] <InuDuelist> !repositories
[04:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:14] <intelikey> well if that line didn't have 'root' it wont work.
[04:14] <Jucato> AZ_ASNeed to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:15] <Dyegov> wait, so it has to be "root (hd0,0) chainloader+1" exactly like that intelikey ?
[04:15] <AZ_AS> preferably both but will check out the site
[04:15] <intelikey> exactly Dyegov
[04:15] <Dyegov> Ok, it's saved intelikey
[04:15] <ytbnyt> can some one help me install vmware player?
[04:16] <Jucato> archangel_: did you choose the resolution that you wanted? then did you restart X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[04:16] <archangel_> yeah Jucato
[04:16] <Jucato> hmm
[04:16] <ytbnyt> is there a .deb availble?
[04:16] <intelikey> let me quote them for you  but you don't quote them in the file.     "title windows"    "root (hd0,0) chainloader+1"     "boot"     dyegov
[04:16] <Jucato> ytbnyt: VMWare Player can be installed from our repositories
[04:17] <ytbnyt> multiverse?
[04:17] <Dyegov> Ok, it's exactly like that intelikey
[04:17] <intelikey> someone that does dual boot check my syntax please,  im not real famielar with grub
[04:17] <Jucato> ytbnyt: universe, iir
[04:17] <archangel_> I have a " widescreen" 19"  maybe 1440x900 isnt the best choise for x
[04:17] <nixternal> my partitions on a 60gb drive ->   255mb (/boot), 10GB (/   root for kubuntu), 10gb (/   root for edubuntu), 1gb swap...im trying to install ubuntu now on the remaining 39gb, just use 10gb...but my 39gb says "unusable" any ideas as to why?
[04:17] <mx> holy crap i made it back to x windows :D
[04:17] <Jucato> s/iir/iirc
[04:17] <ytbnyt> ok
[04:17] <mx> cyas
[04:18] <intelikey> Dyegov you can test it at any time.
[04:18] <reddwolf78> when someone gets the time could they help me out find out some information
[04:18] <InuDuelist> Dyegov: Try rebooting.
[04:18] <Dyegov> so, do I have to restar right now?
[04:18] <Dyegov> Ok
[04:18] <Dyegov> I'll be back
[04:18] <InuDuelist> :)
[04:18] <Dyegov> Thanks a lot
[04:18] <InuDuelist> If it works, let us know.
[04:18] <InuDuelist> If not, we'll try to help some more.
[04:18] <Dyegov> Ok
[04:18] <AZ_AS> what is the security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu for? safe to disable or should I leave it enabled to installa package?
[04:18] <intelikey> Dyegov np
[04:18] <red> repositories fixed my problem as well
[04:18] <Jucato> AZ_AS: leave it enabled. it's important
[04:19] <viiiiictor> hi there!
[04:19] <AZ_AS> 'k, ty
[04:19] <intelikey> AZ_AS it's the bug/security fixup
[04:20] <nonickname> :D
[04:20] <victor_from_chil> is there anyone who have a laptop here?
[04:20] <nonickname> (this is mx)
[04:20] <intelikey> it can break things.  hehhe  but it aint supposed too
[04:20] <intelikey> nonickname nice nickname
[04:20] <AZ_AS> makes sense
[04:21] <AZ_AS> after following the steps on the site, it should be working for apt-get too, correct? and so I'll be able to download the programs from both repositiories?
[04:21] <AZ_AS> through apt-get?
[04:21] <nonickname> intelikey: thanks :p
[04:21] <intelikey> as soon as you update the dpkg database
[04:22] <intelikey> AZ_AS
[04:22] <AZ_AS> how do I do that then?
[04:22] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update
[04:22] <victor_from_chil> hi?
[04:22] <nonickname> is there a way to get cd to ignore case by default? :p
[04:23] <Dyegov> intelikey , windows is now in the list, but it says kernel should be loaded before booting T_T
[04:23] <AZ_AS> alright, just ran it and got an error...said "could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:23] <AZ_AS> disregard?
[04:23] <intelikey> Dyegov hmmm that why i asked for anyone to confirm the syntax....
[04:24] <reddwolf78> when someone gets the time could they help me out find out some information
[04:24] <Dyegov> the other ones in the list had something about kernel, but this one no
[04:24] <intelikey> AZ_AS means you have adept open probably
[04:24] <intelikey> Dyegov give me a second i'll check the syntax and get back to you.
[04:24] <AZ_AS> that'd explain it
[04:25] <Dyegov> Ok intelikey , thanks a lot
[04:25] <erov> reddwolf78: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAudioStreaming.html
[04:26] <reddwolf78> thank you
[04:26] <erov> thats just one but if you need further just holler.. i havent done it but i know it's "doable"
[04:26] <tlinux> hello
[04:26] <tlinux> does anybody know anythign about ppp and dialup internet
[04:26] <AZ_AS> yes, thank you! that site helped tons :)
[04:26] <reddwolf78> ok
[04:27] <AZ_AS> alrighty, gonna go but thanks again
[04:27] <tlinux> how come i can connect using pppconfig but kppp alwyas gives a stupid error 1
[04:28] <charims> ok guys, im not sure about this, but the "comprehensive sound problems solutions guide" told me to add the line options "snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=3" to "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base" this might fix my sound problem eg. "No sound", anyone know anything about it
[04:28] <ytbnyt> i looked it up at packages.ubuntu.com and it is in multiverse, how do i enable multi in adept?
[04:28] <InuDuelist> Mmm. Time to import my media collection from Windows to Amarok.
[04:28] <victor_from_chil> can someone helpme compiling the kernel for my laptop??
[04:28] <InuDuelist> Here goes the rest of my night.
[04:28] <charims> haha have fun InuDuelist
[04:29] <intelikey> Dyegov maybe i did have bad syntax for that,   do  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst     again and under windows remove all and inster this in it's place   "rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[04:29] <intelikey> makeactive
[04:29] <intelikey> chainloader  +1
[04:29] <intelikey> "
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> I have a netgear wireless card running with ndiswrapper
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> it shows up in iwconfig
[04:29] <edwardam> Anyone know how many simultaneous TCP/IP connections the linux 2.6 kernel can handle?
[04:29] <intelikey> Dyegov no quotes of course.
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> but when I do sudo iwlist wlan0 scan, it says there are no networks
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> even though there definately are
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm on a wlan not two feet from the antenna right now
[04:29] <Hail_Spacecake> and the same card works fine in SuSE
[04:29] <trpr> Hail_Spacecake: hrm. what happens when you manually set the ssid, instead of scanning
[04:30] <intelikey> Dyegov and sorry for the bad code.  been so long sense i saw a windows partiton....   and i don't use grub either....
[04:30] <Dyegov> Np
[04:30] <Dyegov> but what do you want me to erase exzactly intelikey ?
[04:30] <Hail_Spacecake> trpr: I can't get online
[04:30] <charims>  Hail_SpaceCake do you have a usb card, and what type? Model no?
[04:30] <intelikey> every thing under the "title windows"
[04:31] <Hail_Spacecake> no, pci
[04:31] <intelikey> Dyegov %
[04:31] <Hail_Spacecake> netgear
[04:31] <Hail_Spacecake> wg311
[04:31] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, got it working yet?
[04:31] <charims> oh, ok, sorry, i can't help you, if it was USB, i could, I have a MA111
[04:31] <intelikey> InuDuelist would have if i hadn't dropped the ball.
[04:31] <ytbnyt> hello?
[04:31] <charims> hello
[04:32] <InuDuelist> InuDuelist would have what?
[04:32] <Dyegov> I'll uote it intelikey
[04:32] <charims> yes, there are people here, haha ;)
[04:32] <intelikey> whould have had it working
[04:32] <InuDuelist> I don't know if you're speaking sarcasm, or if you're serious.
[04:32] <InuDuelist> 2.6 gigabytes of music being transfered over as we speak.
[04:33] <Dyegov> "title Windows XP root noverify (hd0,0) boot" is it fine intelikey ?
 Dyegov, got it working yet?<><intelikey> InuDuelist would have if i hadn't dropped the ball. <-- what's not to understand ?
[04:33] <charims> gonna restart, check if the new line in alsa-source fixes the sound
[04:33] <InuDuelist> That.
[04:33] <kRush> libQtXml.so.4 - which package is it in? i can't find it
[04:33] <InuDuelist> Are you trying to say that I would have helped him, or that I would have got it working for me?
[04:34] <Hail_Spacecake> does anyone know why iwlist might not work?
[04:34] <Dyegov> "title Windows XP root noverify (hd0,0) boot" is it fine intelikey ?
[04:34] <intelikey> title Windows
[04:34] <ytbnyt> how do i enable multiverse in adept?!!
[04:34] <InuDuelist> !multiverse
[04:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:34] <intelikey> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[04:34] <intelikey> makeactive
[04:34] <InuDuelist> 33% of 2.6 GB.
[04:34] <intelikey> chainloader  +1
[04:34] <Jucato> ytbnyt Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:34] <RogueThunder> 'Ello! Nice to meetcha all... so... Anyone hanging around preticulary willing to help a newbie get a linksys usb wireless card working? ^.^'
[04:35] <Dyegov> but I dont understand intelikey, do I have to put twice root? so it would be root rootnoverify (hd0,0) ?
[04:35] <intelikey> Dyegov no.  the whole thing needs to be just what i pasted. ^
[04:36] <Dyegov> but in the documet i'm modyfing, it follows a format, so you put title       windows
[04:36] <somekool> Hello
[04:36] <Dyegov> root     something
[04:36] <Dyegov> so it would be "root noveify (hda0,0)"
[04:36] <Dyegov> ?
[04:37] <somekool> I downloaded the latest DVD Live of Kubuntu but could not mount my NTFS partitions. anything I need to load in order for this to work ?
[04:37] <Kr4t05> does anyone know how I can minimize an xterm session to the system tray?
[04:37] <intelikey> dyegov "title Windows"   "rootnoverify (hd0,0)"   "makeactive"   "chainloader  +1"     four lines.
[04:37] <Dyegov> Ok
[04:38] <InuDuelist> Anyone feel like writing up a program that allows you to take and upload screenshots?
[04:38] <InuDuelist> Yes?
[04:38] <intelikey> and actually i think the 'makeactive' will be superflutious, but it can't hurt anything.
[04:38] <CatSoup> i thought there were already programs for that?
[04:38] <Dyegov> Dont I have to put Boot intelikey ?
[04:38] <derekS> how do i enable xdmcp in kde? i know how to do it in gnome.... i just want to set it so that other people can loging to my machine via X
[04:39] <intelikey> Dyegov not acording to the manual pages  only on lines with kernel specific actions.
[04:39] <trpr> ksnapshot makes great screenshots
[04:39] <Dyegov> OK, I'll try, I'll reboot, brb intelikey
[04:39] <intelikey> k
[04:40] <ytbnyt> thanks, it worked.
[04:40] <InuDuelist> w00t.
[04:40] <InuDuelist> 91% of 2.6 GB Transfered.
[04:41] <charims> ok, rebooted, what is a reliable way to test sound, im worried if i try playing an mp3 it might break the sound again :(
[04:41] <ytbnyt> logging off in one... two... three...
[04:41] <InuDuelist> 98%...
[04:41] <InuDuelist> 99%...
[04:41] <InuDuelist> Aaanndd....
[04:42] <InuDuelist> Done.
[04:42] <InuDuelist> w00t.
[04:42] <InuDuelist> Time for step two.
[04:42] <InuDuelist> Importing.
[04:42] <charims> som1 please, what is a realible way to test sound?
[04:43] <Agios> charims: playing a mp3 is as good as any.
[04:43] <Eeyore> a tuning fork
[04:43] <RogueThunder> Batovens 4th? XD
[04:44] <Dyegov> intelikey it didn't work, nothing happened
[04:44] <charims> last time i played an mp3 the sound quit working, right after it was working a second before on Gaim Instant messenger
[04:44] <intelikey> charims cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp
[04:44] <intelikey> Dyegov what do you mean nothing happened ?
[04:44] <intelikey> you have to select windows in the menu at boot time
[04:45] <charims> YES SOUND
[04:45] <charims> :)
[04:45] <InuDuelist> intelikey, what's the command to edit GRUB? I want to check something.
[04:45] <Dyegov> I pressed enter key in where it said "Windows XP" but nothing happned intelikey
[04:45] <charims> ok, now to find why an mp3 breaks it, and so des jsut about everything else
[04:45] <Dyegov> kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:45] <charims> thanks Intelikey
[04:46] <intelikey> Dyegov hmmm that's not good.
[04:46] <intelikey> Dyegov lets have at that partition.
[04:46] <red_> god hates internet
[04:46] <intelikey> Dyegov lets have a look at that partition.
[04:46] <red_> the storms are messin wit my power
[04:46] <Dyegov> how intelikey?
[04:46] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[04:47] <intelikey> if it burps out any errors i want to see the error
[04:47] <Jucato> if I use the "nv" drivers, can I still get 3D hardware acceleration? or that only works with the "nvidia" drivers?
[04:47] <Dyegov> no, no errors
[04:47] <reddwolf78> what would the comand be to get a exe file to intall
[04:48] <Dyegov> no errors intelikey
[04:48] <intelikey> Dyegov ok now open konq and have a look around in /mnt    see if it looks like windows c:
[04:48] <intelikey> konq=short for konqueror file manager.
[04:48] <Dyegov> it doesn't let me enter to /mnt intelikey
[04:49] <intelikey> hmmm no read access ?
[04:49] <charims> ok, mpg123 no longer breaks the sound, but it doesn't play soud either, anyone have any suggestions?
[04:49] <Dyegov> i dont know intelikey
[04:50] <intelikey> dyegov sduo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mnt
[04:50] <intelikey> we'll make it let you.
[04:50] <intelikey> err sudo   ^
[04:50] <intelikey> typo
 do you know how to get a exe file to load
[04:51] <Jucato> reddwolf78: you need to have wine installed to get .exe files to run
[04:51] <intelikey> wine blah.exe
[04:51] <driz> hey guys  how do i update 6.06 on konsole
[04:51] <reddwolf78> how do i find out if i have wine installed
[04:51] <intelikey> driz sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:51] <Jucato> reddwolf78: you probably don't it's not installed by default
[04:51] <reddwolf78> darn
[04:51] <intelikey> reddwolf78 wine --version
[04:51] <InuDuelist> Oh, right.
[04:52] <InuDuelist> I forgot to Import.
[04:52] <InuDuelist> Crap.
[04:52] <reddwolf78> what do i do to get it then
[04:52] <InuDuelist> >_<
[04:52] <intelikey> !wine
[04:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:52] <RogueThunder> wouldnt adept have a decent wine package?
[04:52] <reddwolf78> i'm runing kubuntu 6.06.1
[04:52] <RogueThunder> generaly
[04:52] <RogueThunder> that is
[04:52] <intelikey> Dyegov i haven't heard from you.  is it  c:  or not ?
[04:52] <Dyegov> intelikey , it didn't work
[04:52] <Dyegov> it doesnt let me enter
[04:53] <Jucato> RogueThunder: Ubuntu's version of wine is quite outdated
[04:53] <RogueThunder> Ah, no suprise...
[04:53] <charims> ok, mpg123 no longer breaks the sound, but it doesn't play soud either. i just noticed, amarok freezes when i try to play na mp3, is that a symptom of the same issue, i have the mp3 codecs installed
[04:53] <intelikey> Dyegov right here in the irc client type this back to me without quotes pelase  "/exec -o ls -ld /mnt"
[04:54] <actinic> command line tip of the day:  type 'history' without the quotes
[04:54] <Dyegov> it gives me an erorr
[04:54] <intelikey> error is ?
[04:54] <Dyegov> script -o not founded
[04:55] <InuDuelist> Time to set Global Shortcuts.
[04:55] <InuDuelist> :3
[04:55] <intelikey> ok.  client doesn't support that.   then use the konsole and show me the output of  "ls -ld /mnt"
[04:56] <intelikey> i want to see what we are playing with and why that thing didn't boot.
[04:56] <Dyegov> it says:
[04:56] <erov> yes use wine... for what though?
[04:56] <InuDuelist> Global Shortcuts set.
[04:57] <InuDuelist> Time for Albumart.
[04:57] <Dyegov> dr-x------ l root root 8192 2006-08-28 19:11 /mnt
[04:57] <tj_> hey, me and my bro are new to linux, I have extracted the files from the firefox gzip, what do i do now?
[04:57] <Jucato> actinic: have you also tried Ctrl+R ? :-D
[04:57] <Dyegov> intelikey:
[04:57] <Dyegov> dr-x------ l root root 8192 2006-08-28 19:11 /mnt
[04:58] <intelikey> Dyegov "sudo chmod 755 /mnt"   and try to browse it again.
[04:58] <tj_> anyone, plz?
[04:58] <charims> yaya, finally, an error, no sound, i typed "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp" I got "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"
[04:58] <Dyegov> done, and it still doesnt let me enter intelikey
[04:59] <actinic> Jucato, whoa!
[04:59] <intelikey> tj_ why not install the ubuntu version of firefox?
[04:59] <intelikey> !ff
[04:59] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:59] <Dyegov> done, and it still doesnt let me enter intelikey
[04:59] <tj_> I'm using Kubuntu
[04:59] <intelikey> yeah i saw,
[05:00] <charims> yaya, finally, an error, no sound, i typed "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp" I got "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" Someone please, i need to figure this out
[05:00] <tj_> and
[05:00] <tj_> I don't see it in the menu
[05:00] <intelikey> Dyegov thinking.
[05:00] <actinic> Jucato, here's a quiz:  what's the command line to list installed software?
[05:00] <Dyegov> OK, NP intelikey
[05:00] <Jucato> actinic: dpkg -l
[05:00] <tj_> does it come with fire fox?
[05:01] <tj_> wanted limwire
[05:01] <tj_> needed java
[05:01] <tj_> java needed mozilla
[05:01] <Jucato> actinic: here's a command to tell you how many packages are installed: dpkg --get-selections | grep "\binstall$" | wc -l
[05:01] <intelikey> Dyegov kill konq and run this "kdesu konqueror"   and browse /mnt
[05:01] <actinic> Jucato, here's another way:  dpkg --get-selections
[05:01] <actinic> oops, u beat me to it :)
[05:01] <Jucato> actinic: lol
[05:02] <charims> Is there someone out there who can help me?
[05:02] <Dyegov> Ok, I'm in intelikey
[05:02] <driz> !ask
[05:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:02] <tj_> I don't mean to bug, but is someone gonna help me?
[05:02] <charims> yaya, finally, an error, no sound, i typed "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp" I got "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" Someone please, i need to figure this out
[05:02] <actinic> ok here's another for you Jucato:  How do I verify which ports are listening?
[05:02] <Dyegov> It's my windows partition intelikey !!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:02] <intelikey> Dyegov is it  C:\   or not ?
[05:02] <intelikey> kewl
[05:02] <Jucato> actinic: that I don't know. I no squat about porst, networking, etc :-D
[05:03] <actinic> lol finally got you!  :)
[05:03] <Jucato> ehehee
[05:03] <actinic> check it:  lsof -i
[05:03] <actinic> or ...
[05:03] <Dyegov> no, it's just /mnt/ intelikey
[05:03] <Jucato> weee! scrolling text...
[05:03] <actinic> nmap localhost
[05:03] <intelikey> Dyegov lol
[05:03] <actinic> or ...
[05:03] <actinic> netstat -an
[05:03] <Jucato> nmap isn't installed...
[05:03] <intelikey> you answered already :)   <Dyegov> It's my windows partition intelikey !!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:03] <Agios> actinic: netstat -a | grep LISTEN
[05:04] <Dyegov> jajaja Ok, what's noxt intelikey?
[05:04] <Jucato> ehehe thanks Agios
[05:04] <Agios> that will list all listening ports
[05:04] <actinic> thanks Agios
[05:04] <CatSoup> Anybody want to tell me how to get Java working with Konqueror? And don't give me a wiki about Java, it didn't work for me.
[05:04] <intelikey> Dyegov ok.  now we are stuck with the question why didn't it boot...
[05:04] <actinic> this concludes our command line session for the evening :)
[05:04] <Jucato> CatSoup: did you already choose which Java version the system willl use by default?
[05:04] <Jucato> actinic: yep eheheh!
[05:05] <Kr4t05> There seem to be no plugins for Kopete that allow me to use Yahoo! Voice, or AIM Voice Chat features. :<
[05:05] <Dyegov> maybe some mistake in the codes intelikey
[05:05] <Jucato> if I use the "nv" drivers, can I still get 3D hardware acceleration? or that only works with the "nvidia" drivers?
[05:05] <actinic> here's a nice linux ref:  nixCraft FAQ's at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/
[05:05] <CatSoup> jucato: What do you mean?
[05:06] <charims> I have no sound except through gaim, so, i ran this test to help test my sound system "cat /usr/share/sounds/* > /dev/dsp " this used to play a sound, but now i get this error "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" I think this may be the problem with my sound, so if someone would help me solve this problem...
[05:06] <intelikey> we confirmed that the address is correct  /dev/hda1 should == (hd0,0) in /boot/grub/device.map    you can check that.
[05:06] <intelikey> Dyegov ^
[05:06] <actinic> also, nixCraft Tutorials at http://forum.cyberciti.biz/tutorials-vf9.html
[05:06] <Jucato> CatSoup: it's in the Wiki. after you have installed Sun Java, you have to choose that version as the default Java version that the system will use
[05:06] <intelikey> Dyegov actually "grep (hd0) /boot/grub/device.map
[05:07] <intelikey> "
[05:07] <Kr4t05> charims: something is dominating /dev/dsp/. Do you have any apps that would obviously use the sound system? (Audio players, etc)
[05:07] <Dyegov> Ok ill do it intelikey
[05:07] <CatSoup> i know, the wiki didn't work. it pointed to a bad package
[05:07] <CatSoup> package that didn't exist.
[05:07] <intelikey> should give one line "(hd0)   /dev/hda" <--- just about like that.
[05:07] <Jucato> !java
[05:07] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:08] <intelikey> Dyegov should give one line "(hd0)   /dev/hda" <--- just about like that.  confirm ?
[05:08] <Jucato> CatSoup: bad package? didn't you install sun-java5-bin from the repositories?
[05:08] <maltaethiron> hey yous all....who can tells me how to put itunes on this thing?
[05:08] <Dyegov> It's not working intelikey
[05:08] <charims> at KR4t05 no, nothing running right now, but i tried to run MPG123, and it didn't break the sound at first, so i think it has something to do with the fact that i tried to play something else for sound
[05:08] <intelikey> Dyegov what error ?
[05:08] <Dyegov> could you please put exactly what I have to put?
[05:08] <CatSoup> jucato: gimmie a second, sudo isn't working, i tihnk something else is using it.
[05:09] <Kr4t05> charims: try changing the sound system.
[05:09] <RogueThunder> *sighs* Would anyone mind helping me with my wlan setup? Ive tried all sorts of things, from faqs n such, and nothings helped... Though my adapter seems installed... i think.
[05:09] <intelikey> Dyegov put "grep (hd0) /boot/grub/device.map"
[05:09] <Dyegov> intelikey , the error is in spanish, my system is in spanish
[05:09] <intelikey> oh.
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Dyegov, Pm me with the message
[05:09] <maltaethiron> what exactly is wrong, roguethunder?
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> i speak spanish
[05:09] <charims> Kr4t05: It has to be on alsa though, right? Becuause my driver is an alsa driver
[05:09] <CatSoup> Jucato: when i do apt-get install sun-java5-jdk it says it can't find the package.
[05:09] <Kr4t05> charims: Let's just try this and see what happens.
[05:10] <RogueThunder> Well... basicaly, even by direclty adding in the information for my router, im not getting any connection or such
[05:10] <Jucato> CatSoup: you need to have multiverse enabled
[05:10] <Jucato> CatSoup: Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:10] <bkudria> can someone help me figure out why libfam0 wants to remove a bunch of my kde apps?  i need libfam.la, to compile basKet 0.6.0 ...
[05:10] <Kr4t05> charims: system settings > Sound & Multimedia
[05:10] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago you dual boot with windows ?
[05:10] <Jucato> CatSoup: also, you're trying to install jdk = Java Development Kit
[05:10] <_tomas_> oi
[05:10] <Dyegov> I dont know how to do that intelikey
[05:10] <RogueThunder> Though my wireless card, if im not mistaken does show up slightly strangely.
[05:10] <CatSoup> eheh ^_^
[05:10] <maltaethiron> hmm
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, err no
[05:10] <Kr4t05> charims: Stupid question, is "Enable the sound system" checked?
[05:10] <RogueThunder> Shows up as eth2...
[05:11] <charims> yes
[05:11] <maltaethiron> anyone think they can help out RogueThunder?
[05:11] <intelikey> Dyegov ah  hehhe i guess you have to quote it.  let me sent you another line.
[05:11] <RogueThunder> Im using latest normal distro, downloaded 2 nights ago.
[05:12] <Dyegov> Ok
[05:12] <intelikey> Dyegov put "grep -e '(hd0)' /boot/grub/device.map"
[05:12] <intelikey> without the ""
[05:12] <maltaethiron> ATN!: RogueThunder needs wlan help
[05:12] <CatSoup> adept won't launch >_>
[05:12] <_tomas_> oi
[05:12] <_tomas_> alguem a fala portugues?????????/
[05:12] <RogueThunder> ^.^' thanks for the finding help help atleast maltaethiron
[05:12] <Dyegov> it says "(hd0) /dev/hda" intelikey
[05:13] <_tomas_> OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[05:13] <_tomas_> ALGUMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[05:13] <intelikey> jucato
[05:13] <_tomas_> DO BRAZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
[05:13] <_tomas_> I AM BRAZIL
[05:13] <_tomas_> YOU SPEAK PORTUGUES????
[05:13] <intelikey> Dyegov that's as it should be....  thinking.
[05:13] <maltaethiron> RogueThunder: no problem, I really wish I could help, but I'm kindof a n00b to linux
[05:13] <RogueThunder> ^.^ same here for the most part
[05:14] <bkudria> can someone help me figure out why libfam0 wants to remove a bunch of my kde apps?  i need libfam.la, to compile basKet 0.6.0 ...
[05:14] <CatSoup> what's multiverse mean anyways?
[05:14] <trpr> more than one reality?
[05:14] <derekS> anyone want to help with xdmcp?
[05:14] <derekS> and kde?
[05:14] <maltaethiron> could someone perhaps help me out with putting iTunes or maybe an iTunes clone onto Kubuntu????
[05:14] <derekS> i can't get it to work
[05:15] <RogueThunder> whats your prob malt?
[05:15] <maltaethiron> i just want to know if there's an iTunes port or clone for kde
[05:15] <RogueThunder> well
[05:15] <RogueThunder> i doubt it would be hard to run itunes itself in wine
[05:15] <redcard> Ugh.  No DRM :P
[05:15] <RogueThunder> though, thats a bit of a bag of tricks on its own
[05:16] <RogueThunder> other than that... ugh dont use itunes so i dont relay know what it does at this point
[05:16] <intelikey> Dyegov i haven't left you.  just give me a few minutes here.
[05:16] <maltaethiron> meh, what's wine roguethunder?
[05:16] <Dyegov> Ok, no problem intelikey
[05:17] <RogueThunder> Wine is a nifty program for linux that allows you to run windows programs in linux without windows.
[05:17] <maltaethiron> oh, thats..nifty
[05:17] <maltaethiron> lol
[05:17] <maltaethiron> !wine
[05:17] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:17] <maltaethiron> w00t
[05:17] <RogueThunder> ^.^
[05:17] <RogueThunder> exaclty.
[05:18] <CatSoup> well the java installation just farked itself up.
[05:19] <maltaethiron> now, can i get wine via synaptic or adept?
[05:19] <intelikey> !repos
[05:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:20] <pk0nink> wine repository is at http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt
[05:20] <maltaethiron> oh its a repo?
[05:20] <RogueThunder> adept has, appernetly an older verison
[05:20] <CatSoup> http://winehq.org/site/download-d
[05:20] <RogueThunder> atleast, so i herd
[05:21] <maltaethiron> ok, thanks a lot guys, and roguethunder...
[05:21] <RogueThunder> So anyone willing and able to give me a bit of wlan help?
[05:21] <maltaethiron> i gotta get off now, but ill check all this out
[05:21] <maltaethiron> thanks
[05:22] <maltaethiron> later bros
[05:25] <DFM> rogue: the best I can tell you is that if your adapter appears to be showing but won't show any networks you may need to use ndiswrapper to install the proper dirver.
[05:26] <RogueThunder> hum
[05:26] <RogueThunder> and... i would go about this how?
[05:26] <tj_> plz plz plz, help a linux n00blet?
[05:26] <DFM> I just loaded a machine with a built in wifi. It showed but I couldn't see my wifi.
[05:27] <RogueThunder> stating what you want help with, generlay helps ^.^'
[05:27] <DFM> Further research revealed that you needed ndiswrapper to get it to actually work and then it would only work dismly.
[05:27] <tj_> ok
[05:27] <DFM> tj: what do you need?
[05:27] <tj_> I need to install firefox
[05:27] <tj_> I have the firefox folder
[05:27] <RogueThunder> open adept.
[05:27] <tj_> with all the files
[05:27] <RogueThunder> find firefox
[05:27] <RogueThunder> tell it to install
[05:27] <tj_> adept?
[05:27] <RogueThunder> the package installer
[05:27] <RogueThunder> !adept
[05:27] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:28] <RogueThunder> ^.^
[05:28] <intelikey> Dyegov i just looked up a possable fix.   lets edit the menu.lst again
[05:28] <Dyegov> Ok intelikey
[05:28] <tj_> whats the password?
[05:28] <tj_> o
[05:28] <tj_> ok
[05:28] <tj_> nvm
[05:28] <DFM> tj: you should have ff already installed by default. no sense in downloading and making the package when ur package manager will do it for you. unless you are wanting to leatn
[05:28] <intelikey> Dyegov "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:28] <Dyegov> Ok, I'm on it intelikey
[05:29] <RogueThunder> Ive actualy had it not preinstalled before, but yeah.
[05:29] <intelikey> make it look like these lines.
[05:29] <intelikey> root (hd0,0)
[05:29] <intelikey>  makeactive
[05:29] <intelikey>  chainloader --force +1
[05:29] <intelikey>  boot
[05:29] <DFM> rogue: what I done was find a wifi adapter that was said to work out of the box. bought it and have been surfing since.
[05:29] <RogueThunder> *chuckles*
[05:29] <RogueThunder> That sucks.
[05:30] <tj_> I picked install
[05:30] <tj_> I just wait?
[05:30] <RogueThunder> So far, everything elce works perfectly on my pretty little anceint slave system, but i cant get it online because of this...
[05:30] <DFM> this was after 2 weeks of trying to get several adapter's on hand to work with ndiswrapper cards that some said worked out of the box.
[05:30] <Dyegov> Ok, they're exactly like that, invluding "Title" ay the beggining intelikey
[05:31] <DFM> I gave up and bought a d-link dwl-g650
[05:31] <intelikey> four lines.  i'll quote them for you  "Background color"  "makeactive"  "chainloader --force +1"  "boot"
[05:31] <intelikey> like that Dyegov  ?
[05:31] <intelikey> and yes plus the title windows line
[05:31] <tj_> is it installing?
[05:31] <Dyegov> Background color? intelikey
[05:31] <DFM> i found it at a target locally and then my friends found it online for about half once I done the leg work and found a card that actually worked
[05:31] <intelikey> oooops
[05:31] <intelikey> no
[05:32] <DFM> tj: did you tell it to apply after selecting the package?
[05:32] <RogueThunder> Well ive already got a card that *should* operate.
[05:32] <intelikey> dyegov these four lines.   "root (hd0,0)"  "makeactive"  "chainloader --force +1"  "boot"
[05:32] <DFM> if so then it will tell you when it is done and viola it should show under the internet tab under aplications
[05:33] <Dyegov> yes, but I've added "title Windows XP" at the beginig, an then those 4
[05:33] <DFM> rogue: did yoiu check the list of cards to see if it was supported? some will work but are finicky
[05:33] <intelikey> Dyegov correct.  save and test
[05:33] <Dyegov> Ok, brb intelikey
[05:33] <RogueThunder> Heh... mines probobly in the finicky list... cant remember
[05:33] <tj_> how i tel it to apply?
[05:34] <RogueThunder> Its a finicky card under windows... nuf said.
[05:35] <DFM> tj: when you run your package manager and find ff, you mark it (if in ubuntu) or request install under kubuntu, then up top click on apply and it will download and install
[05:36] <tj_> ok, i applied
[05:36] <tj_> how I acsess it?
[05:36] <DFM> rogue: I would just spend $37 on the d-link if you don't want to hassle with that card
[05:36] <DFM> tj: refer to earlier post. Once it complete's it will tell you it is done. then go under the internet list and it will be there.
[05:37] <tj_> I don't see it, it's done tho
[05:37] <intelikey> hey if i'm in the market for a very dependable eth card what's the linux users choice ?
[05:37] <DFM> anything that connects to the internet is listed under "internet". Close the package manager
[05:37] <tj_> it's closed
[05:38] <intelikey>     linux users ?
[05:38] <reddwolf78> how do i get win
[05:38] <reddwolf78> wine*
[05:38] <tj_> win
[05:38] <DFM> intel: i like about any linksys card. they have always showed up and worked since RH 7.3
[05:38] <tj_> wine
[05:38] <arepie> !wine
[05:38] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:38] <tj_> wine is not an emulator lol
[05:38] <intelikey> reddwolf78 sudo apt-get install wine
[05:39] <reddwolf78> thank you i had to relog in and lost the page
[05:39] <DFM> can't say the same for their wi-fi's
[05:39] <tj_> anyway
[05:39] <tj_> how i see firefox
[05:39] <tj_> ?
[05:39] <intelikey> DFM ty.
[05:39] <Dyegov> intelikey , I'm using windows!!!
[05:39] <DFM> tj: try this, open a terminal (konsole) and type firefox................
[05:39] <tj_> ok
[05:39] <tj_> h/o
[05:40] <intelikey> Dyegov you're welcome.
[05:40] <intelikey> :)
[05:40] <intelikey> and i'm gone.
[05:40] <Dyegov> Thanks a lot intelikey
[05:40] <tj_> YAY
[05:40] <tj_> thanx
[05:40] <tj_> how i know how to get to it?
[05:40] <DFM> tj: have a good evening
[05:40] <reddwolf78> thanks
[05:40] <tj_> besides using konsole
[05:41] <reddwolf78> and getting wine will help with me getting exe files to load up
[05:41] <reddwolf78> right or wrong
[05:41] <DFM> tj: alternately you can hit control + f2 and type the command firefix
[05:41] <Dyegov> I'll get back to kubuntu and try to fix some things, thanks again intelikey
[05:41] <Jucato> reddwolf78: half right, hafl wrong? not all windows programs will run in Wine
[05:41] <RogueThunder> Hum
[05:41] <tj_> does it require me to reboot?
[05:42] <reddwolf78> what about winamp doyou think that would run
[05:42] <DFM> tj: finally if you can start firefox then I am reasonably sure it is showing up under a menue you have just yet to find it.
[05:42] <DFM> tj: does what require a reboot? the install of ff?
[05:42] <Jucato> reddwolf78: hm... I wouldn't know. I think winehq.org has a sort of database of what apps run/don't run in Wine
[05:42] <tj_> yeah
[05:42] <reddwolf78> ok
[05:43] <Jucato> reddwolf78: but may I ask why you need Winamp?
[05:43] <DFM> tj: no. about the only time yoiu must reboot is when you load or install a new kernel
[05:43] <RogueThunder> ive found another possible fix in my spesific case, problem is i cant modify the file i need to... its the interfaces file at ect/network, wont let me save it...
[05:43] <tj_> it should have added it already, right?, I have checked the K Menu?
[05:43] <RogueThunder> *sighs* i assume this is some kind of need for a sudo command or the like... im used to having root heh
[05:44] <DFM> tj: it's inthere somewhere. if yoiu can't find it reboot and check
[05:44] <tj_> ok
[05:44] <ravenous> kdesu kate interfaces
[05:44] <DFM> rogue: have you attempted to open the said file using nano?
[05:44] <RogueThunder> nano?
[05:44] <reddwolf78> so i can dj on sat nights winamp has a build in program of shoutcast
[05:45] <Jucato> aaah
[05:45] <RogueThunder> it opens automaticaly in kate, so, no
[05:45] <reddwolf78> that i need for broacasting
[05:45] <Jucato> reddwolf78: have you tried searching in Google for a similar app in Linux?
[05:45] <DFM> that is just another text editor but it never fails me when I use it
[05:45] <RogueThunder> nor is anything by that name avalible in the open with menu...
[05:45] <spazz> Hey Jucato ........ I am trapped inside Knoppix Live CD now ... (
[05:45] <RogueThunder> its a permisions issue, im sure
[05:45] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Try freshmeat, as they have all sorts of stuff for that
[05:45] <RogueThunder> i just
[05:45] <RogueThunder> dont know how to give it permission
[05:45] <spazz> My HDD finally died. Heads crashed I think.
[05:45] <DFM> command as follow sudo nano + path
[05:46] <Jucato> spazz: oh man... that's bad....
[05:46] <spazz> Jucato, yea, lol. I got a few errors for the first time, saying I had bad sectors.
[05:46] <reddwolf78> do you have the link for that
[05:46] <tj_> YAY
[05:46] <tj_> firefox!!1
[05:46] <tj_> it worked
[05:47] <tj_> but I guess it needed a reboot
[05:47] <spazz> The Windows installers I tried ..,. would immediately bluescreen, Ubuntu Live CD refuses to run ... and ... bah, lol. I need new HDD ... :(((
[05:47] <DFM> when you use sudo with nano you will have the ability to modify the file and save it. just go slow and check the controls listed at the bottom
[05:47] <tj_> I also have abyss web server, how I install it?
[05:47] <DFM> tj: same way you installed ff
[05:48] <Jucato> spazz: are you absolutely sure that the HDD is dead?? :-(
[05:48] <spazz> It's dead enough not to want to have any OS installed to it.
[05:48] <bkudria> can someone help me figure out why libfam0 wants to remove a bunch of my kde apps?  i need libfam.la, to compile basKet 0.6.0 ...
[05:48] <tj_> I have all the files, it auto adds it to the package installer
[05:48] <tj_> ?
[05:49] <DFM> bkudria: youi are over my head on that one
[05:49] <spazz> that sucks too.
[05:49] <spazz> i have an iBook with a dead HDD too.
[05:49] <spazz> And it's LCD is dead, like my Sony's is dead, lol.
[05:50] <DFM> tj: when you select the main package in debian based systems the package manager will usually always get all req packages'
[05:50] <RogueThunder> *whisltes along* rebooting the ancient pentium 3! Resurect o slab of the past! Oh yo ho hum.
[05:50] <Jucato> can .msi (MS Installer?) be run in wine
[05:51] <DFM> rogue: what kind of machine are you running your distro on?
[05:51] <RogueThunder> Probobly would have to install ms installer into it first... which i could imagine possible... depending.
[05:51] <nathan> I haven't been able to get MSI's to work at all :(
[05:51] <RogueThunder> *chuckles* A throwtogether p3-800 slot 1 oldie i put together out of the leftovers of 3 computers and a few other spare parts ^.^
[05:51] <Jucato> nathan: oh.. krap...
[05:51] <nathan> What are you trying to install?
[05:52] <RogueThunder> with a nifty viper 770 vidcard
[05:52] <Jucato> a game I downloaded....
[05:52] <RogueThunder> Many o years ago... the cpu was our main system heh.
[05:52] <nathan> oh gotcha. I'm sure it could be done, but with some nice tweaking since MSI's deal more with OS files than standard self-contained EXEs
[05:53] <DFM> been there done that
[05:53] <Jucato> yeah.. time to Google...
[05:53] <RogueThunder> ^.^ yes well, i finaly got the poor thing to boot...
[05:53] <RogueThunder> like
[05:53] <RogueThunder> a week ago
[05:53] <tj_> I have a .rpm, wtf is this?
[05:53] <nathan> Good luck and if you figure it out....be sure to proclaim it to the world! :)
[05:53] <DFM> i picked up a piii 800 thinkpad for a $100 bucks and couldn't bare to load m$ since it only had 128megs of ram
[05:53] <RogueThunder> Your fermilar with the low voltage signal line used in a ps2 port, right?
[05:53] <LeeJunFan> spazz: I had to replace the bulbs in my Sony GRX LCD's quite often.
[05:54] <tj_> ?
[05:54] <tj_> anyone?
[05:54] <spazz> yea, lol this is a GRX570.
[05:54] <DFM> y
[05:54] <nathan> RPM?
[05:54] <RogueThunder> A bad switchbox ran the high voltage monitor wire through it.
[05:54] <tj_> what i do with a .rpm
[05:54] <DFM> tj: hold your forses and be patient
[05:54] <RogueThunder> Thats why the system needed repairs.
[05:54] <spazz> LeeJunFan, the screen comes on, but its dark for like a split second when I first turn on my computer.
[05:54] <tj_> I also have the .zip for limewire
[05:54] <nathan> Depends on what linux distro you are running
[05:54] <DFM> we can only respond so fast
[05:54] <tj_> kubuntu
[05:54] <LeeJunFan> spazz: Had 2 of them, both of them also suffer from the notorious bad motherboard solder job and only 1/2 of RAM is recognized.
[05:54] <tj_> obviously
[05:54] <RogueThunder> 48 volts, run through a 1.2v max port *shuders*
[05:54] <tj_> lol
[05:55] <RogueThunder> Indeed, it booted afterwards.
[05:55] <DFM> rpm is Red Hat Package manager
[05:55] <spazz> yea. this used to be nice in its day lol.
[05:55] <tj_> ok
[05:55] <spazz> Now I am getting a Macbook Pro woo. Put all three OS's on it.
[05:55] <nathan> Then the RPM isn't useful to you at all..... Kubuntu is based on Debian and uses a different package manager. You'll need to use the ZIP file if you can't find anything with a .deb
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> spazz: yeah, sounds like the backlight. The bulbs are cheap but the work is a PITA.
[05:55] <Jucato> tj_: rpm stands for RedHat Package Manger. it is the .deb of the Red Hat-based/RPM-based world
[05:55] <spazz> LeeJunFan, how much are the HDDs for these?
[05:55] <tj_> ok, I have the .zip
[05:55] <tj_> I just extract
[05:55] <tj_> ?
[05:55] <DFM> at the stage your at leave it aling and stick with .deb packages or read up on alien to use other distro's package's.
[05:55] <Jucato> !limewire
[05:55] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> spazz: I dunno, any standard 2.5" should work.
[05:56] <spazz> oh really ..
[05:56] <RogueThunder> Well
[05:56] <spazz> cuz i know it just pops out lol.
[05:56] <Jucato> tj_:  see that link about LimeWire
[05:56] <RogueThunder> I actualy got a differant responce now.
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> spazz: yeah, the HD itself is inside that little enclosure.
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> spazz: you take that part that pops out apart and the HDD is inside that.
[05:56] <tj_> how i run the .sh
[05:56] <tj_> ?
[05:56] <RogueThunder> Oh... joy, now the card just doesnt work at all.
[05:57] <spazz> Wonder how much I could get a 2.5 drive for... dunno what laptop hdds brands ar egood
[05:57] <DFM> i find frostwire better and it's a clone of limewire but with out the nags
[05:57] <RogueThunder> That... obvously didnt work...
[05:57] <nathan> Run the .sh from Konsole
[05:57] <tj_> I type cd /home/tj/Desktop/LimeWire
[05:57] <tj_> then
[05:57] <tj_> what?
[05:57] <DFM> spazz: I think newegg listed a WD 80 or 100 gig 7200 rpm for $100
[05:57] <nathan> limewire.sh I think
[05:57] <obf213> anyone know wehre i can watch tv on my computer for fee
[05:58] <tj_> it just tells me
[05:58] <tj_> bash: limewire.sh: command not found
[05:58] <Jucato> nathan: lol! wine has a utility for installing .msi files!
[05:58] <spazz> id only want like ... a 60gb or something
[05:58] <Hawkwind> Ouch!  $100 for 100GB is damn expensive
[05:58] <robotgeek> tj_: chmod +x limewire.sh, ./limewire.sh
[05:59] <Hawkwind> spazz: You are much better off buying atleast 160GB now days
[05:59] <RogueThunder> Well, for all i havent gotten any farther, i now understand how to edit things as if i was root on rootless mode...
[05:59] <nathan> No Way!! Damn, nice find!
[05:59] <Hawkwind> spazz: You can get 160GB drives for under $60
[05:59] <reddwolf78> i got winamp work but keeps asking for active x controler but does not download it  how can i get the active x to work
[05:59] <nathan> tj: gimme a sec
[05:59] <Jucato> nathan: "msiexec /i <.msi file>"
[05:59] <spazz> gah! ... 2.5 laptop drivers?
[05:59] <spazz> drives *
[05:59] <RogueThunder> >.> i barley missed a deal of a 250 for 30$ a month ago in a 3.5''
[05:59] <nathan> Way to go jucato... time to do some installin'
[05:59] <Hawkwind> spazz: Oh for a laptop
[05:59] <obf213> !tv
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <spazz> yea
[05:59] <tj_> ok
[06:00] <tj_> it now workie
[06:00] <DFM> hawkwind: I think it was the whole 7200 rpm thing
[06:00] <spazz> need cheap laptop driver
[06:00] <tj_> it no*
[06:00] <tj_> workie
[06:00] <nathan> oh wait
[06:00] <nathan> you'll need to type in runLime.sh I think
[06:00] <Hawkwind> spazz: 80GB for about $75 on pricewatch
[06:00] <tj_> ah
[06:01] <nathan> Just remember what that other guy said, you'll need Java 1.4 installed atleast
[06:01] <spazz> LeeJunFan, how much did those builbs cost ?
[06:01] <spazz> LeeJunFan,  bulbs for the lcd
[06:01] <tj_> o
[06:01] <DFM> I haven't looked for a laptop drive yet. I want a bigger and faster one but don't want to spend to much money since this laptop is old
[06:01] <tj_> i get that with firefoz
[06:01] <tj_> firefox*
[06:02] <nathan> Well if you have it installed properly then runLime.sh will install Limewire for ya.... and if it doesn't install you'll need to get Java installed, which isn't that hard
[06:02] <spazz> DFM, me too. Don't want to blow much money on this, I mean the LCD is already dead.
[06:03] <DFM> my $100 laptop is up to $230 just by adding 256 megs of ram and a wifi card
[06:03] <tj_> ok
[06:03] <intelikey> back on my own box.... better.
[06:03] <tj_> not so hard, give me a link for how to install
[06:03] <DFM> I ant another 256 to max out memory and then replace the hd.
[06:04] <intelikey> startx error
[06:04] <intelikey> Fatal server error:
[06:04] <intelikey> xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)
[06:04] <reddwolf78> i got winamp work but keeps asking for active x controler but does not download it  how can i get the active x to work
[06:04] <intelikey> where would that permissions error be happening ?
[06:04] <DFM> then my $100 laptop will be $400 and then I can be frustrated that for $500 I could have bought a new laptop
[06:04] <nathan> Install Java?
[06:04] <tj_> yes
[06:04] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: You should search freshmeat.net for something linux native to use instead of winamp
[06:05] <tj_> is it in the packages?
[06:05] <reddwolf78> ok
[06:05] <enzo> question
[06:05] <nathan> take a look in the Package Manager, I haven't looked there for a while
[06:05] <nathan> ok?
[06:05] <enzo> I'm about to install Kubuntu
[06:05] <enzo> on my desktop
[06:05] <enzo> but this time, on another drive
[06:05] <nathan> k
[06:05] <enzo> how do I go about doing that?
[06:05] <DFM> to get limewire to work I had to use automatix to get the correct java environment installed
[06:05] <enzo> the partition setup part
[06:05] <nathan> The installer will ask where you want it
[06:06] <nathan> Just pick the second drive instead of a partition on your primary drive
[06:06] <intelikey> nathan i hope you are not talking about the live cd installer.......
[06:06] <enzo> nathan, so what do I do for my root drive, just leave it as it is?
[06:06] <DFM> yes
[06:07] <tj_> wtf, so how am I gonna go about installing java?
[06:07] <nathan> no I'm not, is the live one different?
[06:07] <Healot> !java
[06:07] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:07] <enzo> I'm on the LIVE CD
[06:07] <nathan> tj: did you check Adept?
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> spazz: sry - ran out for a bit. The bulbs were fairly cheap - less than $20/ea I think.
[06:07] <intelikey> enzo  you set your new root '/' to be where you want linux installed.
[06:07] <nathan> enzo: sorry buddy, I'll let someone else take it... I didn't use the Live CD
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> spazz: soldering skills are required.
[06:07] <enzo> thank you nathan for your input
[06:08] <DFM> but let grub install on the MBR. If you ever want to remove linux just use a windows boot disk and fdisk the mbr
[06:08] <enzo> intelikey, but doing so won't fark over my GRUB and initial Kubuntu setup on the first HDD?
[06:09] <intelikey> grub has nothing to do with where the system installes to enzo   but yes it is going to over write grub.
[06:09] <spazz> LeeJunFan,  for 20$ I will learn lmfao. Where did you get them? I tried finding them before.... can always get someone else to solder it for me lol. I know like 3 electricions.
[06:09] <spazz> How long does it take though? .. like how difficult is it?
[06:09] <LeeJunFan> spazz: this is where I got mine. http://www.moniserv.com/doc/ccfl.htm - actually only $12
[06:09] <DFM> enzo: you pick what hdd it goes on. you don't have to let it install on your win dirve
[06:09] <nathan> hey tj_, you there?
[06:09] <enzo> my main concern is losing what I have now on my first/primary HDD
[06:09] <enzo> OIC
[06:10] <rouzic_ausente> Good Bye!
[06:11] <nonickname> http://pastebin.ca/152757
[06:11] <tj_> i'm here
[06:11] <Dyegov> excuse me intelikey , but do you know how can I recover the partitions I used in kubuntu for my windows?
[06:11] <intelikey> enzo at step 5 or 6  can't recall which  it asks you to confirm the drive/partitions/mountpoints.  there are check boxes at the right that you check to have them formated.   make sure none of the partitions you want to keep are checked for formating.
[06:11] <nathan> ok so go to www.java.com and download the Linux installer (non RPM)
[06:11] <spazz> LeeJunFan, hmm. So basically .......... 60$ for new HDD ... and 20$ for LCD bulb? ... hmm. lol.
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> spazz: make sure you pay attention while taking apart the LCD to get the layers of plastic back together correctly, and try to be as dust free as possible. I got fingerprints on mine but they don't show up, but hair and the fragments of white reflector that get in the LCD will show up bad.
[06:12] <InuDuelist> intelikey: I'm still working on my library.
[06:12] <DFM> nathan: are you trying to get ur java working for limewire?
[06:12] <InuDuelist> I was hoping it really wouldn't take up my whole night.
[06:12] <spazz> ... not sure how I would try taking apart. Havent looked at it yet.
[06:12] <InuDuelist> :/
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> spazz: I think I've done it a total of about 4-5 times between the 2 laptops. about a 2 - 2 1/2 hr job, probably a lot more the first time.
[06:12] <tj_> it keeps trying to be opened with kate
[06:13] <intelikey> InuDuelist sorry, you lost me.   dirrect questions are a lot easier to answer.
[06:13] <nathan> ya.... right click on the .bin and get the properties. Under the permissions TAB you need to check the box to make the file an executable
[06:13] <tj_> anyone?
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> spazz: you have to take out a few screws and bend some tabs out of the way to get it all apart. And remove 2 ribbon cables. And a lot of tape.
[06:13] <nathan> Then you need to run the file in the Konsole ./jre-blahblahblah
[06:13] <InuDuelist> intelikey: It wasn't a question.
[06:13] <nathan> and it'll install it all for you
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> spazz: make sure you take the tape off first or risk damaging the ribbon cable.
[06:13] <InuDuelist> I was just telling you that I'm still working on my library.
[06:14] <spazz> Does the tape have to be put back on?
[06:14] <tj_> I ran it, now what, nothing popped up?
[06:14] <DFM> nathan: food for thought. I tried everything to get my java right and kept getting error messages when ever I tried to run limewire.
[06:14] <intelikey> :)     but mine was an indirrect question    i.e.  what/which library InuDuelist
[06:14] <Dyegov> excuse me intelikey , but do you know how can I recover the partitions I used in kubuntu for my windows?
[06:15] <nathan> DFM: I never had any issues once 1.4 JRE was installed and it's been working fine.... hmmmmm
[06:15] <LeeJunFan> spazz: yes, to make sure the ribbon cables don't come out. Also some is copper grounding tape which needs to be re-attached.
[06:15] <RogueThunder> Wow... such a fast boot sequence compared to a windows running laptop XD
[06:15] <InuDuelist> Hey, Dyegov is still here. :D
[06:15] <enzo> When it asks me about Mount Point, I put the root "/" to my new HDD, right?
[06:15] <nathan> tj: you need to run it in the Konsole, not double clicking
[06:15] <InuDuelist> intelikey: My collection. The entire thing.
[06:15] <InuDuelist> :/
[06:15] <tj_> o
[06:15] <tj_> ok
[06:15] <DFM> the only way I could get my jave right to use limewire was to use automatix to install it. then it worked. maybe you will have better luck
[06:15] <Dyegov> Yes InuDuelist, but I'm now using windows ;)
[06:15] <LeeJunFan> spazz: gotta get to bed. Good luck - it's not hard, just mostly tedious.
[06:15] <LeeJunFan> gnight.
[06:15] <spazz> hmm. but its self explanatory right
[06:15] <nathan> it'll give you a long License agreement, just space through it and type in "yes" when asked and it'll do the rest
[06:15] <reddwolf78> i found one but not sure witch one to get weather its got the  or bz2 at the very end of itgz
[06:15] <enzo> DFM, intelikey...
[06:15] <enzo> When it asks me about Mount Point, I put the root "/" to my new HDD, right?
[06:15] <intelikey> Dyegov as in use the space for something besides linux ?
[06:15] <spazz> i mean just common sense ... like you see where everything is, and its not too difficult to put together just time consuming..?
[06:16] <reddwolf78> or does it make a diffrence
[06:16] <DFM> enzo: yes
[06:16] <DFM> make absolutley sure you are installing on your new hd
[06:16] <intelikey> Dyegov or are you talking about accessing the linux partition/s from windows ?
[06:16] <DFM> if indoubt stop and back track
[06:16] <RogueThunder> Someone who can help with wlan setup of a linksys usb wlan card wouldnt happen t be around? (mise as well keep asking XD)
[06:16] <tj_> I type in Konsole
[06:16] <Dyegov> intelikey yes, something like that, make them NTFS again so I can use them in windows, or better,put them all toghether again
[06:16] <nathan> sorry?
[06:16] <tj_> cd /home/tj/deskttop
[06:16] <tj_> then
[06:17] <tj_> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[06:17] <enzo> DFM, doing so won't do anything to my original, right?
[06:17] <tj_> right?
[06:17] <nathan> no you need the ./ infront of the .bin file
[06:17] <tj_> ok
[06:17] <nathan> ./jre-1......
[06:17] <intelikey> Dyegov i don't do windows.  sorry.
[06:17] <Phoenix92x> dyegov: if you want to access your linux partitions in windows google "ext2 ifs"
[06:17] <DFM> nothing happens until you tell it to apply
[06:17] <Phoenix92x> really nifty kernel level driver for windows that enables read/write on linux partitions =) (excluding reiserfs)
[06:17] <Dyegov> Ok intelikey , no problem, thanks a lot
[06:17] <tj_> yay, installing!
[06:17] <nathan> anytime you need to run a .bin file or anything from the Konsole (as in launch it) you need to put a ./ first before the file.... just FYI in the future
[06:18] <Dyegov> I'll do it Phoenix92x
[06:18] <tj_> ok
[06:18] <tj_> thanx
[06:18] <tj_> what I do now
[06:18] <Phoenix92x> hope it works for ye
[06:18] <tj_> just wait?
[06:18] <DFM> enzo: if you have anything you cant loose stop now and back it up.
[06:18] <nathan> has it fully installed and it says "Done"?
[06:18] <tj_> yes
[06:18] <nathan> ya just wait until you see "Done"
[06:18] <tj_> now i can close out Konsole
[06:18] <enzo> It's currently scanning files
[06:18] <nathan> after that you can exit the Konsole, and now you run the runLime.sh or whatever it was called
[06:19] <tj_> ok
[06:19] <tj_> thanx
[06:19] <enzo> but it didn't say anything about touching my first HDD, other than the swap
[06:19] <DFM> enzo: you shouldn't have any problems. is the new hd larger or smaller than your win drive?
[06:19] <enzo> smaller
[06:19] <tj_> do I need to keep the folder it created on my desktop?
[06:19] <DFM> no your swap should install on the new drive
[06:19] <enzo> my primary is 250GB, this new HDD is only 80GB
[06:19] <nathan> The Java folder?
[06:19] <tj_> yeah
[06:20] <intelikey> it's one thing to help a guy get something running  it's another to find out that one windows command was all he really wanted. Dyegov in windows fdisk /mbr  or fixmbr was all you wanted and we spent an hour fixing grub so you could remove......       fdisk is your windows partition manager iirc    but it's been a while.
[06:20] <enzo> I did install the swap on the new HDD
[06:20] <tj_> it's called jreblahblahblah
[06:20] <DFM> so when it ask youi what drive you want to install on you know you are selecting the smaller drive?
[06:20] <nathan> honestly, I have no idea.... I've always left it in my Home folder (which is where I had extracted it to)
[06:20] <DFM> good
[06:20] <enzo> yes
[06:20] <DFM> np then
[06:20] <enzo> ok
[06:20] <tj_> o
[06:20] <enzo> thank you DFM
[06:20] <tj_> well, I guess I don't need to worry about it then
[06:21] <enzo> much appreciated
[06:21] <tj_> I'll rename it, and see what it says
[06:21] <DFM> only time you will touch your original hd is when you install grub to allow you to boot between os's
[06:21] <nathan> you can always get rid of it and if things dont work run the installer again (but from a folder somewhere, not the desktop)
[06:21] <Dyegov> I didn't know about that either intelikey
[06:21] <DFM> it won't hose ur win os
[06:21] <DFM> linux plays real nice with other os's unlike win
[06:21] <enzo> kew
[06:22] <DFM> further linux will ask you if it's ok to install on the MBR instead of just doing it
[06:22] <Phoenix92x> put simply, linux is a polite butler taking care of your things, windows is a bull running through it
[06:22] <nonickname> where should i go to get help with x.org?
[06:23] <DFM> ah very good analagy
[06:23] <intelikey> DFM you must not have seen the livd cd  installer
[06:23] <enzo> intelikey, who caused you to go this route... I liked/valued your input. You've always been helpful
[06:23] <InuDuelist> Dyegov: Good to hear you got dual-booting working.
[06:23] <DFM> I did that's what I used
[06:23] <tj_> what i type in konsole?
[06:23] <tj_> to run it
[06:23] <tj_> I'm navigated to the directory of the .sh file
[06:24] <nathan> you installed Limewire already?
[06:24] <intelikey> enzo i wont name names.    and i'll get over it.
[06:24] <enzo> I prefer Frostwire to Limewire
[06:24] <Dyegov> Yes InuDuelist , but it just give me 1 second to select, anyway it's working :D
[06:24] <tj_> omg
[06:24] <nathan> Now you can just open up a "run" box (ALT+F2)and type Limewire
[06:24] <tj_> it tells me I don't have a valid java installed
[06:24] <InuDuelist> Dyegov, it doesn't matter. All you have to do is press up/down within that 1 second.
[06:24] <DFM> good night all
[06:24] <InuDuelist> I can help you fix that, though.
[06:24] <InuDuelist> Good night.
[06:25] <enzo> goodnight DFM
[06:25] <enzo> and thank you
[06:25] <Dyegov> Yeah, I know ;)
[06:25] <InuDuelist> LATE'D.
[06:25] <nathan> Open up Konsole and type java -version
[06:25] <intelikey> enzo but if you are truely curious scroll up and read my long post/rant  just before that.
[06:25] <enzo> will do
[06:25] <RogueThunder> Aaaah
[06:25] <RogueThunder> i see
[06:25] <RogueThunder> *laughs*
[06:25] <RogueThunder> well... i have some tings to try...
[06:25] <nathan> if it doesn't talk about Sun Microsystem then it's still looking at the standard built in version.... which in that case you might need to restart for the new one to kick in (or log out/in again)
[06:26] <enzo> intelikey, "GRUB loading, please wait...                     Error 17"
[06:26] <tj_> ok
[06:26] <enzo> fixmbr?
[06:26] <tj_> let me log out
[06:26] <tj_> brb
[06:26] <nathan> k I'll be around
[06:26] <intelikey> enzo na just 'rtfm'    lol
[06:26] <enzo> HEY
[06:27] <enzo> I would if I had one
[06:27] <intelikey> is that a real error enzo ?
[06:27] <enzo> yup
[06:27] <enzo> won't load GRUB
[06:28] <intelikey> yeah you need to boot the live cd   and reinstall grub for the linux on the primarry hdd
[06:28] <enzo> ok
[06:28] <enzo> how do I reinstall it?
[06:29] <enzo> just overwrite the file with the backup that I have?
[06:29] <intelikey> the new install over wrote your working grub without asking you anything,  didn't it ?
[06:29] <tj_> omg
[06:29] <enzo> seems so
[06:29] <tj_> it still hasn't detected the new java, should i reboot
[06:29] <tj_> ?
[06:30] <intelikey> enzo no. you need to mount the linux root partition and chroot into it then  sudo grub-install    and edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the new linux system to it.
[06:30] <nathan> Ummmmmmmm, you got me
[06:30] <robotgeek> tj_: NO NEED
[06:30] <robotgeek> sorry for caps
[06:30] <nathan> RobotGeek....hook him up!
[06:30] <tj_> what I do then?
[06:30] <nathan> what's the solution?
[06:30] <tj_> lol
[06:31] <robotgeek> i assume you have tried !java already
[06:31] <InuDuelist> !robotgeek
[06:31] <intelikey> that should all be pretty streight forward for an old linux hand like your self
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about robotgeek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <InuDuelist> Darn.
[06:31] <InuDuelist> That would have been badass.
[06:31] <tj_> yeah
[06:31] <tj_> it's the right version
[06:32] <robotgeek> intelikey: havent messed with kubuntu in a while, everything just works
[06:32] <enzo> old linux hand?
[06:32] <tj_> ?
[06:32] <intelikey> enzo yeah you.
[06:33] <enzo> what does that mean?
[06:33] <enzo> never heard it before
[06:33] <nathan> tj: hey, just FYI...you can delete that folder that was created.... Java is installed somewhere else
[06:33] <tj_> ok
[06:33] <tj_> and, what about my java prob tho
[06:33] <intelikey> well you have installed linux before.  you are not a newbee anymore....
[06:33] <InuDuelist> intelikey: Wrong.
[06:33] <robotgeek> tj_: you are not on esoteric platform, like powerpc, i hope
[06:33] <nathan> But ya, I don't know what to say for that...when I installed it last year it worked great and I havne't had to reinstall
[06:33] <enzo> true
[06:33] <tj_> right
[06:33] <InuDuelist> I went through a dozen Linux Distros before I got where I am.
[06:33] <InuDuelist> And I'm still a newb.
[06:33] <tj_> im on kubuntu
[06:33] <enzo> but I don't know about old
[06:34] <intelikey> oh;  ok :)
[06:34] <enzo> I've only been using Kubuntu for about 1-2 months
[06:34] <robotgeek> tj_: okay, and you installed sun-java from multiverse, i assume
[06:34] <enzo> actually, since June 1, 2006
[06:34] <enzo> so actually, almost 3 months
[06:34] <tj_> somone gave me a link
[06:34] <intelikey> a dapper pup.....
[06:34] <enzo> yup
[06:35] <robotgeek> tj_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java this one?
[06:35] <enzo> I was about to use Breezy, but someone told me to just download and use Dapper instead
[06:35] <enzo> so I did and here I am
[06:35] <nathan> a link to...?
[06:36] <InuDuelist> You know how a CD is certified badass?
[06:36] <InuDuelist> If it states that the songs have "violent content".
[06:36] <enzo> WTF?
[06:36] <jorge_> hola
[06:36] <enzo> which distro has that?
[06:36] <tj_> ok
[06:36] <InuDuelist> Hm?
[06:36] <jorge_> alguna chica?
[06:36] <InuDuelist> !sp
[06:36] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[06:37] <InuDuelist> Damn it.
[06:37] <tj_> I am there, it asks me for my pass, and it won't let me type it on
[06:37] <enzo> !es
[06:37] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:37] <InuDuelist> Close enough.
[06:37] <jorge_> thanks
[06:37] <enzo> tj_ you don't see it, type it and and hit enter
[06:38] <tj_> it tells me"
[06:38] <tj_> Reading package lists... Done
[06:38] <tj_> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:38] <tj_> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[06:38] <tj_> "
[06:38] <reddwolf78> how do you install a file that has a bz2 at the end of the file name
[06:38] <Martijn81> how dangerous is upgrading the firmware of a benq dvd-drive by using wine?
[06:38] <robotgeek> !compile
[06:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:38] <enzo> intelikey, I can't mount my HDDs
[06:39] <tj_> anyone?
[06:39] <intelikey> Martijn81 about like doing sudo /sbin/*     turning off the monitor and typing randomly.....  :)
[06:39] <intelikey> enzo sudo it.
[06:40] <enzo> can't find /dev/hda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Please check that the device is plugged correctly.
[06:40] <intelikey> it wont be in fstab.     sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt
[06:41] <tj_> it can't find my sun-java5-bin?
[06:41] <nathan> tj: did you do the two steps underneath
[06:41] <tj_> wtf?
[06:41] <tj_> no
[06:41] <Martijn81> ok i get it intellikey, thank you ;(
[06:41] <enzo> sweet
[06:41] <nathan> try those out: sudo apt-get install libqt-perl
[06:41] <nathan> and the one underneath, then try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin again
[06:42] <enzo> ok, so I chroot into what now?
[06:42] <intelikey> Martijn81 i may have over stated it.  but you do get the jest.
[06:42] <intelikey> enzo chroot /mnt
[06:43] <intelikey> enzo sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[06:43] <Martijn81> more or less yes, i'd better hijack my mother pc then....
[06:43] <enzo> sudo chroot /mnt
[06:43] <enzo> right?
[06:43] <intelikey> enzo you can sudo the chroot if you like.
[06:43] <enzo> ok
[06:43] <intelikey> prolly better to do it that way.
[06:43] <enzo> hda or hda6 (the linux partition)
[06:44] <intelikey> hda
[06:44] <intelikey> the mbr
[06:44] <enzo> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[06:45] <tj_> no work
[06:45] <intelikey> enzo if you sudo the chroot  you don't need to sudo the grub-install
[06:45] <tj_> brb
[06:45] <Zamboulie> someone hold my hand through the XGL installation
[06:45] <tj_> logging out, then back in
[06:45] <enzo> oh, ok
[06:45] <Zamboulie> i'm scared to do it but i really want it
[06:45] <intelikey> you are root.
[06:45] <enzo> ok
[06:45] <robotgeek> enzo: changed hostname, right?
[06:45] <Zamboulie> has anyone installed XGL on kubuntu here?
[06:46] <enzo> says            /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device
[06:46] <tj_> back
[06:46] <nathan> hey
[06:46] <enzo> the hostname is ubuntu
[06:46] <enzo> I am on the live CD
[06:46] <robotgeek> oh okay.
[06:46] <enzo> ubuntu@ubuntu
[06:47] <Zamboulie> someone tell me what the XGL channel is plz
[06:47] <tj_> tarting LimeWire...
[06:47] <tj_> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[06:47] <tj_> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[06:47] <tj_> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[06:47] <tj_> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[06:47] <tj_> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[06:47] <tj_> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[06:47] <tj_> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[06:47] <enzo> !pastebin > tj_
[06:47] <tj_> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[06:47] <tj_> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[06:47] <tj_> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[06:47] <tj_> wtf?
[06:47] <nathan> Crap.... man, I don't know what else to say... I'm not a newb but I'm not advanced at Linux. This is as far as I can take you
[06:47] <Martijn81> !xgl > Zamboulie
[06:48] <tj_> srrry ppl
[06:48] <nathan> !xgl
[06:48] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:48] <tj_> how about my limewire prob?
[06:48] <robotgeek> tj_: do dpkg -l sun-java5-bin
[06:49] <nathan> robotgeek: sounds like he doesn't have that package on his disk
[06:49] <intelikey> arrrg  that's cause *buntu sucks.     the device node is probably missing.   because *buntu depends on the initramfs.img to create it.    enzo if you are still chrooted do this  "mknod /dev/hda b 3 0 && grub-install /dev/hda "
[06:49] <enzo> go with Frostwire
[06:49] <intelikey> enzo ^
[06:49] <tj_> aight
[06:50] <enzo> weird
[06:50] <enzo> says            /dev/hdb1: Not found or not a block device
[06:50] <enzo> instead of hda
[06:50] <reddwolf78> i still don't under stand how to get this file to uplaod
[06:50] <robotgeek> reddwolf78: what is it that you are tyring to install?
[06:50] <intelikey> ok we'll make that one too.
[06:51] <enzo> make what/
[06:51] <enzo> ?
[06:51] <reddwolf78> geexbox-1.0-lite.tar.bz2
[06:51] <reddwolf78> i found it on freshmeat.net
[06:51] <intelikey> enzo "mknod /dev/hdb1 b 3 65 && grub-install /dev/hda"
[06:52] <robotgeek> reddwolf78: usually, you would tar -jxf file.tar.bz2, ./configure, make
[06:52] <hitjim> sorry to butt in, but hopefully my question is quick:  Does anyone know offhand what the latest stable kernel is for *buntu?
[06:52] <tj_> ok
[06:52] <enzo> mknod: `/dev/hdb1': File exists
[06:53] <tj_> I have the FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586 file
[06:53] <tj_> what i do now?
[06:53] <reddwolf78> ok but how do i do that i have read that web that was given to me but don't under stand could be cus i'm a first time user of about a weak
[06:53] <intelikey> enzo did you try to run that twice ?
[06:53] <robotgeek> tj_: can you tell me output of "dpkg -l sun-java5-bin"
[06:53] <enzo> run which twice?
[06:53] <tj_> it said package not found
[06:53] <intelikey> nm
[06:54] <tj_> anyway
[06:54] <tj_> what I do with the .dep package?
[06:54] <tj_> or
[06:54] <tj_> deb
[06:54] <intelikey> enzo you are in the "sudo chroot /mnt "  still correct ?
[06:54] <tj_> anyone?
[06:55] <robotgeek> tj_: okay, so java is not installed. i doubt if frostwire will run too
[06:55] <tj_> awww
[06:55] <tj_> can i try
[06:55] <tj_> ?
[06:55] <robotgeek> tj_: we can work on getting java installed, though
[06:56] <enzo> I am root
[06:56] <tj_> ok
[06:56] <tj_> help me then :)
[06:57] <enzo> intelikey, I am still under root
[06:57] <robotgeek> tj_: please enabled multiverse repository
[06:57] <intelikey> enzo still chrooted ?
[06:57] <hitjim> 2.6.12-10-386 has a date of Jul 18 this year, is that still the most recent kernel?
[06:57] <tj_> um, english please?
[06:57] <enzo> I will do it again if you'd like intelikey
[06:57] <robotgeek> tj_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:58] <intelikey> yeah exit  and do this.    "sudo chroot /mnt grub-install "     and see what happens.
[06:58] <enzo> ok
[06:58] <intelikey> cause i'm not sure what that last error was all about.
[06:59] <enzo> looks like a short 'man' page
[06:59] <intelikey> enzo what does ?
[07:00] <enzo> sudo chroot /mnt grub-install
[07:00] <intelikey> oh.   add /dev/hda
[07:00] <intelikey> my bad.
[07:00] <enzo> will do
[07:00] <enzo> np
[07:01] <enzo> says "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
[07:01] <intelikey> i've see that many times.  you don't have any whole disk file systems do you ?
[07:02] <enzo> whole disk FS?
[07:02] <intelikey> partitionless disk
[07:02] <enzo> nope
[07:02] <enzo> well, except for this 2nd HDD
[07:02] <enzo> pure Ext with SWAP
[07:02] <enzo> *Ext2
[07:02] <intelikey> no that's not partitionless.
[07:02] <Martijn81> hitjim: in dapper? no that's 2.6.15-26-386, you can check yours with: uname -a
[07:02] <enzo> then nope
[07:03] <intelikey> can you pastebin me the output of   sudo fdisk -l
[07:03] <intelikey> !pastebin
[07:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:04] <enzo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21944
[07:04] <enzo> ^intelikey
[07:06] <intelikey> enzo you might add the output of   ls -l /mnt/dev/hd*
[07:07] <nonickname> .. i destroyed my linux comp
[07:07] <enzo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21946
[07:07] <intelikey> ty
[07:07] <enzo> ^intelikey
[07:07] <enzo> yw
[07:07] <enzo> but really TY
[07:08] <nonickname> okay, startx ends with a permission denied on /dev/null
[07:09] <nonickname> logging in from a new ctrl+alt+fkey gets-bash: /dev/null: permission denied
[07:10] <nonickname> last time i tried to start x it actually opened x, but then it said something about some kind of protector or something not being loaded, some error because of that
[07:10] <intelikey> enzo ok i think the error is from not being able to access the other partitions.  lets do this.    "sudo chroot /mnt "  and  then  "cd /dev/ && MAKEDEV hd "     then ls hd*  to confirm it created the other inodes.
[07:10] <enzo> will do
[07:10] <yuriy> i think i could spend hours just mousing over the window buttons on edgy
[07:11] <nonickname> where do i start asking questions?
[07:11] <intelikey> yuriy ah something else for me to gripe about...
[07:11] <intelikey> nonickname you just did.
[07:11] <yuriy> intelikey: why gripe?
[07:11] <nonickname> aside from that one...
[07:11] <draik> intelikey
[07:11] <draik> this is my desktop
[07:12] <draik> enzo is my laptop
[07:12] <intelikey> ok.
[07:12] <tj_> I enabled the repository montone sylvester stalone crap
[07:12] <nonickname> to make matters worse, i cant connect to the internet
[07:12] <draik> says   /sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices
[07:12] <draik> after I did            cd /dev/ && MAKEDEV hd
[07:13] <intelikey> draik and ls shows two or more ?
[07:13] <tj_> robotgeek?
[07:13] <intelikey> warning is not equal error
[07:13] <intelikey> W != E
[07:13] <robotgeek> tj_: cool.
[07:13] <blfisher> When using iptables to masquerade my LAN computers, I can surf the internet from the LAN but cannot get connected to IRC from the LAN
[07:13] <tj_> what I do now?
[07:13] <blfisher> Does anyone have any ideas as to why this would be happning?
[07:13] <tj_> help me
[07:13] <robotgeek> tj_: next install sun-java5-bin
[07:13] <tj_> where I get?
[07:14] <robotgeek> tj_: "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin" in a terminal, or install using adept
[07:14] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21947
[07:14] <draik> ^intelikey
[07:14] <nonickname> alright.. the death of startx looks something like this: fatal server error: (ee) fglrx(0): [07:14] <tj_> ok
[07:14] <tj_> it's getting it
[07:14] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jre
[07:14] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[07:15] <Ademan> is there a way to set the packages that the liveCD include
[07:15] <Ademan> s
[07:15] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jdk
[07:15] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[07:15] <Zamboulie> how do i kill adept in console
[07:15] <Ademan> tj_: don't install it with adept, it freezes adept
[07:15] <Zamboulie> killall adept?
[07:15] <tj_> ok
[07:15] <intelikey> nonickname i know that error about null berry well.  i added a line in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh    "chmod 777 /dev/null "     but i can't advise you to do that cause i'll get in trubble with the *buntu team.
[07:16] <nonickname> ah
[07:16] <tj_> what now, after the konsole thing?
[07:16] <nonickname> any ideas about why it happens?
[07:17] <intelikey> draik so now try the   grub-install /dev/hda    again.
[07:17] <draik> will do
[07:17] <draik> sudo?
[07:17] <intelikey> no
[07:17] <draik> ok
[07:17] <intelikey> all went that time without error ?
[07:18] <draik> seems like it did
[07:18] <intelikey> good.
[07:18] <draik> except for that minor "disclaimer" of the XFS filesystem
[07:18] <draik> Installation finished. No error reported
[07:18] <intelikey> now nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the entry for (hd1,0)
[07:18] <draik> so I think it's good to go now
[07:19] <draik> ummm
[07:19] <robotgeek> tj_: java should have installed. check dpkg -i sun-java5-bin
[07:19] <draik> intelikey, shouldn't I be looking in /mnt/hda6/boot/grub/menu.lst          ?
[07:19] <draik> that's where my original is located
[07:20] <draik> It's there!!!
[07:20] <Zamboulie> can someone walk me through the XGL installation plz!
[07:20] <nonickname> lol
[07:20] <intelikey> draik not if you are still in the chroot.  but yes if you've exited already.
[07:20] <draik> didn't exit
[07:20] <intelikey> that's what chroot does.  it changes  /
[07:20] <draik> I am in /boot/grub/menu.lst and I can see it there
[07:21] <draik> oic
[07:21] <draik> kew
[07:21] <draik> so it's there
[07:21] <draik> do I save it somewhere or anything?
[07:21] <nonickname> i just tried to do a ctrl+alt+f7 and it brought me to a screen with two white squares and a flashing underscore
[07:21] <intelikey> there is also    pivotroot   which changes / system wide.
[07:22] <draik> interesting... when would I use pivotroot?
[07:22] <tj_> frostwire!
[07:23] <draik> intelikey, what is my next command?
[07:23] <draik> or am I done?
[07:23] <intelikey> draik if there is an entry for  hd0,0 windows   hd0,5 linux    hd1,0 linux    you should be set.
[07:24] <draik> it's all there
[07:24] <intelikey> unless that ntfs on sda is also bootable then add it.
[07:24] <draik> nope
[07:24] <draik> sda is all backup
[07:24] <intelikey> k exit exit exit
[07:24] <intelikey> reboot.
[07:24] <obf213> anyone know how i ge to character map
[07:24] <nonickname> how can i make the default boot go into text mode?
[07:24] <draik> thank you intelikey
[07:25] <intelikey> np
[07:25] <robotgeek> tj_: you would just "sudo dpkg -i frostwire.deb""
[07:25] <intelikey> now if draik comes back and says he is removing the linux partitions  i'll become a stalker..............
[07:25] <robotgeek> intelikey: lol
[07:26] <enzo> relax intelikey
[07:26] <nonickname> intelikey: i want text mode at boot :P
[07:26] <obf213> anyone know if kubuntu comes default with a character map
[07:26] <enzo> I'll do them when you /quit or /part
[07:26] <intelikey> twice in one night would be to much.
[07:26] <enzo> it would
[07:26] <enzo> but I'm not a linux quitter cuz of something like this
[07:26] <enzo> I would if I couldn't get anything accomplished with linux
[07:27] <enzo> but since that's not the case
[07:27] <intelikey> nonickname append   1  to the kernel line.
[07:27] <robotgeek> intelikey: take some time off, dont become a victim of support burnout
[07:27] <enzo> ummm intelikey
[07:27] <enzo> Error 17 again
[07:27] <intelikey> robotgeek been there a few times.....
[07:27] <intelikey> enzo no you'r lying.  i don't beleave it.
[07:28] <enzo> it is
[07:28] <nonickname> intelikey: thanks
[07:28] <intelikey> crap really.
[07:28] <enzo> I'm not
[07:28] <enzo> yup
[07:28] <obf213> hey intelikey how do i choose which type of java i want to use
[07:28] <enzo> what would happen if I mount the hda6 and add hdb1?
[07:29] <obf213> i had frostwire and it wouldnt open it said i had the wrong java
[07:29] <enzo> manually
[07:29] <obf213> then but i had the current version and i changed the section or smething in console but it somehow reverted
[07:30] <intelikey> obf213 i have no idea.
[07:30] <robotgeek> obf213: i think update-alternatives
[07:30] <enzo> intelikey, would that work?
[07:32] <obf213> robot geek i think that is wht i used
[07:32] <jake1> is there a program that is equivalent to Microsoft Outlook for Kubuntu
[07:32] <jake1> ?
[07:33] <obf213> kmail
[07:33] <obf213> robotgeek do you know the syntax,
[07:33] <intelikey> enzo you should test each option and see which if any work     or is the error 17 before you get a menu ?
[07:35] <enzo> before I get a menu
[07:35] <intelikey> the google search seems to say that either   /boot/grub/menu.lst or /boot/grub/device.map one is wrong.   bad partition addressing.    so recheck there.
[07:35] <obf213> !java
[07:35] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:36] <jake1> obf213 will that be able to sync with calenders on Entourage and Outlook
[07:36] <thomas> can anyone tell me why my wireless will get an ip from the network with 128 wep, but won't access any computers on the newtork or the internet?
[07:36] <obf213> jake1 i don't know
[07:36] <enzo> intelikey, I overwrote the GRUB on hda6
[07:36] <enzo> I hope that works
[07:36] <enzo> if not, I saved a backup
[07:36] <enzo> to roll-back
[07:37] <intelikey> enzo you can compare   fdisk -l    with the listing carefully to make sure you don't have a bad address in one of them
[07:37] <hitjim> so does *buntu not automatically upgrade to the latest kernel?
[07:37] <hitjim> i thought it was at *15, but i'm still at *12
[07:37] <enzo> rebooted
[07:37] <enzo> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[07:38] <enzo> still with the Error 17
[07:38] <thomas> anyone? why would my wireless "connect" to the network, but not access anything on it?
[07:38] <intelikey> enzo yeah do test other menu itoms tho
[07:38] <enzo> what other menu items?
[07:38] <intelikey> maybe windows and the other linux
[07:38] <intelikey> see if they boot
[07:38] <enzo> nothing else has changed other than the addition of this HDD
[07:39] <enzo> I can't boot into anything else
[07:39] <enzo> I get the error prior to my boot list
[07:39] <intelikey> k  then you need to look in those two files.
[07:39] <enzo> it's about to load my GRUB menu list and then I get the ERROR 17
[07:39] <intelikey> ^^
[07:40] <enzo> what two files?
[07:40] <intelikey> something is mis-addressed in menu.lst  or device.map is bad
[07:40] <intelikey> in hda6 /boot/grub/
[07:40] <enzo> ok
[07:41] <enzo> What would I be looking for?
[07:41] <tj_> I'm trying to manage abyss web server
[07:41] <tj_> it keeps saying listening problem
[07:41] <intelikey> bad address in one of the entries.
[07:41] <tj_> ?
[07:41] <enzo> pastebin?
[07:42] <intelikey> yeah
[07:42] <enzo> k
[07:43] <obf213> how do i open up a .jar file
[07:43] <tj_> anyone?
[07:44] <draik> !pastebin
[07:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:44] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21948
[07:44] <draik> ^intelikey
[07:45] <intelikey> if you type name first then you don't have to use two lines  :)
[07:45] <sberla> hello
[07:45] <sberla> i'm italian
[07:45] <obf213> how do i run a .jar file
[07:45] <sberla> i'm question
[07:45] <draik> intelikey, here is what I have for my device.map
[07:45] <tj_> ?
[07:45] <draik> (hd0)	/dev/hda
[07:45] <draik> (hd1)	/dev/sda
[07:45] <sberla> building module
[07:46] <intelikey> draik there it is.
[07:46] <sberla> to ADSL modem
[07:46] <sberla> `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386/arch/i386/Makefile'.  Stop.          
[07:46] <draik> ?
[07:46] <intelikey> don't you see it.
[07:46] <sberla>                                                    make[3] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386'          
[07:46] <sberla>                                                    make[2] : *** [eagle-usb.ko]  Error 2                                        
[07:46] <sberla>                                                    make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/eagle-usb/driver'             
[07:46] <draik> name first?
[07:46] <intelikey> no
[07:46] <draik> instead of two lines?
[07:46] <intelikey> no
[07:46] <draik> hda /dev/sda
 (hd1)   /dev/sda  <--- that's your 17
[07:46] <draik> sorry
[07:46] <sberla>                                                    make[1] : *** [binary-modules]  Error 2                                      
[07:46] <sberla>                                                    make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/eagle-usb'                    
[07:46] <sberla>                                                    make: *** [kdist_image]  Error 2
[07:46] <draik> yea
[07:46] <sberla> error??
[07:47] <intelikey> should be     <draik> (hd1)   /dev/hdb
[07:47] <draik> change it to read hd1 /dev/hdb1
[07:47] <draik> ?
[07:47] <draik> ok
[07:47] <draik> wait
[07:47] <draik> should be /dev/hdb   only, right?
[07:47] <intelikey> yep] 
[07:47] <draik> k
[07:47] <draik> done
[07:47] <intelikey> well (hd1)   /dev/hdb
[07:47] <draik> reboot?
[07:47] <draik> yeah
[07:47] <intelikey> yep
[07:47] <draik> will do
[07:48] <draik> I hope I don't get any more Error 17
[07:48] <intelikey> me too
[07:48] <enzo> cross your fingers, toes, and anything else you can
[07:48] <enzo> except for wires!
[07:48] <Jucato> hey enzo!
[07:48] <enzo> yo
[07:49] <Ash-Fox> Is there a decent way to determine what additional packages I have installed ontop of the kubuntu defaults (I tend to install a lot of things overtime that I need for the spur of the moment, then I forget to remove them)
[07:49] <intelikey> enzo you be quiet.    i don't want to here form you.   only draik
[07:49] <enzo> Jucato, still working on the issue with my new HDD
[07:49] <sberla> enzo sei italiano?
[07:49] <Jucato> enzo: where's draik?
[07:49] <intelikey> :)
[07:49] <thomas> is there a network manager applet for kde?
[07:49] <enzo> sberla, no sorry. It's a nick short for Enzo Matrix
[07:49] <enzo> google images for him
[07:49] <enzo> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[07:50] <enzo> Error 17
[07:50] <sberla> gente
[07:50] <sberla> qualcuno mi sa dare un info
[07:50] <Jucato> !it
[07:50] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:50] <obf213> hey i opened a .jar file using the command java -jar jarfile
[07:51] <obf213> in the konsole
[07:51] <enzo> anything wrong with my menu.lst   intelikey?
[07:51] <obf213> is there a way i can openit without having to type that any time
[07:51] <enzo> Jucato, enzo is not registered
[07:51] <Jucato> lol
[07:51] <Jucato> sorry
[07:51] <enzo> ho
[07:52] <enzo_> ok
[07:52] <intelikey> draik i'm going over your menu.lst now.
[07:52] <enzo_> and? Anything oddy?
[07:52] <Jucato> where's draik? ehehe
[07:52] <enzo_> draik is undergoing surgery
[07:53] <matt___> Hi! Does anyone know a IRC for Kmail?
[07:53] <Jucato> matt___: try #kontact ?
[07:54] <matt___> hi Jucato!  Thanks!
[07:55] <draik> ok
[07:55] <Jucato> whoa! is that you, draik?
[07:55] <draik> lets try this again
[07:55] <draik> yup
[07:55] <Jucato> lol
[07:55] <draik> but I'm on the live CD
[07:55] <sberla> hello
[07:55] <sberla> i'm italian
[07:55] <draik> hello
[07:55] <sberla> i'm question
[07:55] <draik> !it > sberla
[07:55] <sberla> compiling Driver eagleusb
[07:56] <sberla> send shell command: module-assistant build eagle-usb
[07:57] <sberla> Error => http://rafb.net/paste/results/SN994z10.html
[07:57] <sberla> whois problem?
[07:57] <draik> !it
[07:57] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:57] <intelikey> draik whats this entry all about ?
[07:57] <intelikey> title           Other operating systems:
[07:57] <intelikey> root
[07:57] <draik> dunno
[07:58] <draik> that's what I was wondering about too
[07:58] <Jucato> intelikey: that's just a title separator
[07:58] <draik> I didn't have it like that before
[07:58] <draik> yup
[07:58] <draik> but the thing is that Debian wasn't under OTHER OS
[07:58] <mkquist_> intelikey-that would be for non linux os
[07:58] <draik> right
[07:58] <intelikey> Jucato the root being empty doesn't hurt it ?
[07:58] <mkquist_> like windowz
[07:58] <draik> who
[07:58] <Jucato> intelikey: yes
[07:58] <draik> *whoa
[07:58] <draik> it's empty
[07:58] <draik> link?
[07:58] <obf213> anyone know how i can open a java program w/o having to type in commands in console evertime
[07:59] <draik> I hate these reboots to bad GRUBs
[07:59] <Jucato> intelikey draik: the root line is empty so that it won't do anything if you accidentaly pressed Enter
[07:59] <draik> wait.. Jucato, so it should be empty?
[08:00] <Jucato> draik: yes. definitely. absolutely
[08:00] <draik> wait
[08:00] <draik> my root lines aren't empty
[08:00] <draik> its to choose a hdd/partition
[08:01] <Jucato> draik: only for the title separator thingy
[08:01] <draik> it's not supposed to be blank
[08:01] <intelikey> that one below "title           Other operating systems:"
[08:01] <draik> which one?
[08:01] <draik> I don't see any of them as blank
[08:01] <Jucato> the one intelikey mentioned
[08:01] <draik> nevermind
[08:01] <Jucato> "title Other operating systems:" then the "root" line below it should be blank
[08:01] <draik> I thought the "root" that was listed under the OSs
[08:02] <intelikey> line 133 on your pastebin
[08:02] <draik> yeah, that's supposed to be blank
[08:02] <Jucato> draik: can you post the link to the pastebin for me? I just came
[08:02] <Jucato> came in*
[08:02] <Jucato> god! did that sound sooo wrong
[08:02] <draik> bash.org
[08:03] <Jucato>  @_@
[08:03] <draik> ummm... well, as I usually say... whatever floats your titanic
[08:04] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21948
[08:04] <intelikey> draik i don't see anything in the menu.lst you pasted that should 17 it.   cat /boot/grub/device.man again.
[08:05] <draik> will do
[08:05] <Jucato> hm...
[08:05] <Jucato> Error 17, eh?
[08:06] <draik> yup
[08:06] <Jucato> So which one is your main OS? hd1,0 or hd0,5? (I'm guessing XP isn't your main OS)
[08:06] <draik> intelikey, no such file or directory
[08:07] <intelikey> Jucato grub is installed from hda6 on his box
[08:07] <Jucato> how about just reinstalling GRUB, using hd0,5's settings, then just manually editing hd0,5's menu.lst to add the new OS on hd1,0
[08:08] <draik> Ummm.... your DCC isn't going
[08:08] <draik> intelikey ^
[08:08] <intelikey> Jucato we just did.
[08:08] <Jucato> lol....  @_@
[08:08] <intelikey> draik i guess you have a firewall up...
[08:08] <draik> intelikey, did you mean device.map
[08:09] <intelikey> heay
[08:09] <nonickname> now wth.. i did a shutdown now, then it stopped, and i did an exit, and it went back to the kubuntu login screen =/
[08:09] <intelikey> yes draik
[08:09] <Jucato> "sudo grub" && "find /boot/grub/stage1" && "root (hd0,5)" && "setup (hd0)" ??
[08:10] <draik> (hd0)   /dev/hda
[08:10] <draik> (hd1)   /dev/sdb
[08:10] <intelikey> i thought you fixed that ?
[08:10] <draik> I did
[08:10] <intelikey> no you didn't.
[08:10] <draik> whoops
[08:11] <intelikey> you typo'd it.  bub.
[08:12] <intelikey> that's it.  you are either too tired for me to help you   or i'm to tired to try any more tonight....
[08:12] <Jucato> or you're both too tired to even make sense of anything at all....
[08:12] <draik> actually, I don't think my gf would appreciate that ATM
[08:12] <Jucato> eheheh
[08:12] <Jucato>  @_@
[08:12] <Jucato> me and my comments...
[08:13] <draik> ok
[08:13] <draik> here we go
[08:13] <draik> REBOOT!
[08:13] <Jucato> where?? where's the show?? is ReBoot on?
[08:13] <obf213> sweet
[08:13] <enzo_> I wish it was
[08:13] <Jucato> enzo_: what did you do to draik again!
[08:13] <Jucato> lol
[08:13] <enzo_> but it's kew cuz I have season 3 and 4 on DVD
[08:13] <obf213> i have a quick question now, how do i open up a .jar file without having to cd to the directgory and running java -jar jarfile
[08:14] <enzo_> Jucato, if you know what's good for you, you'll just turn around and keep walking
[08:14] <Jucato> enzo_: i was walking away from you already. If I turn around and keep walking, I'll walk into you... @_@
[08:14] <enzo_> moment of truth
[08:14] <enzo_> ....
[08:14] <obf213> anyone?
[08:14] <enzo_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[08:14] <enzo_> Error 17 again
[08:15] <nonickname> haha
[08:15] <obf213> lol
[08:15] <wolfmanz> How do i move e-mail and setting from one thunderbird client to another?
[08:15] <obf213> but for real does anyone know, becuase i have this program that i use to dl songs off the local network and i want to to just click and open it without having to run the whole directory/ java -jar thing
[08:16] <enzo_> Jucato, you're lucky if you get rotten tomatoes
[08:16] <Jucato> hm....
[08:17] <nonickname> obf.. try ark?
[08:17] <Jucato> obf213: you could probably try to associate .jar files with the command?
[08:17] <nonickname> or whatever it's called..
[08:17] <Jucato> enzo_: ouch!! you could have at least thawed it first
[08:18] <enzo_> Jucato, I could, but where'd be the fun in that? Where, I ask you, where?
[08:19] <Jucato> nonickname: give that back!!!
[08:19] <Jucato> obf213: can't Ark open it?
[08:20] <Jucato> bye!
[08:20] <draik> Hey
[08:21] <obf213> no ark cant open a .jar file
[08:21] <obf213> but does anyone know for sure, intelikey are you still around
[08:21] <Healot> because unzip is not installed
[08:21] <Healot> !info unzip
[08:21] <ubotu> unzip: De-archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.52-6ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 143 kB, installed size 332 kB
[08:21] <obf213> Healot is that for me?
[08:22] <Healot> JAR is technically a zipped (zip info) file
[08:23] <obf213> unzip is installed already
[08:23] <obf213> all ark does it open it like a directory and i c all sorts of iles and stuff
[08:23] <Healot> really
[08:23] <obf213> but i just want to run the prog.
[08:23] <Healot> yeah, that's what;s you suppose to see
[08:23] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jre
[08:23] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[08:24] <Healot> you need JRE to RUN a Java Jar file :-
[08:24] <obf213> Healot i can run the file,
[08:24] <obf213> i have to open konsole cd to my desktop and then type in the this command java -jar jarfile
[08:24] <obf213> i was trying to figure out a way to circumvent all that
[08:24] <Healot> so, what do you actually want?
[08:24] <obf213> maybe code that in so does it automatically or something
[08:25] <obf213> so i dont have to open console cd to my desktop and type in code everytime i want to run a prog i will be using often
[08:25] <Healot> it's on the MIME setting at KDE Control Panel
[08:25] <Healot> atm, it is known not to work :)
[08:26] <obf213> Healot thanks man
[08:27] <Healot> btw, an open terminal is very handy
[08:31] <ezu> Hi all, new user here: when I switch user's in ubuntu, the programs sleep and I can't get it back. What do I need to do?
[08:32] <obf213> how do i add stuff to a root folder
[08:32] <obf213> its denying me where can i enter my password
[08:34] <obf213> do i have to add files in console or something
[08:35] <obf213> !root
[08:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:41] <obf213> how can i add fiels to root folders
[08:42] <chris_> anyone installed, or know the process of, installing xgl on kubuntu?
[08:42] <chris_> i've worked my way through it and gotten stuck
[08:42] <Healot> !xgl
[08:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:43] <Healot> btw, for general xgl information join #xgl
[08:43] <chris_> ah but the guide i'm looking at told me to use glxcompmgr
[08:44] <chris_> and it's not installing right
[08:44] <chris_> i type make install, and tells me that there's nothing to be done
[08:44] <obf213> how do i add a file to usr/bin
[08:45] <Healot> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  >> chris_
[08:46] <chris_> thanks
[08:47] <Healot> read the factoid for commonly asked questions :0
[08:47] <chris_> where's that?
[08:47] <chris_> lol
[08:48] <Healot> !help
[08:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:48] <Healot> ubotu is our friendly robot for ubuntu channels
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is our friendly robot for ubuntu channels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <Healot> yet dumb sometimes
[08:50] <chris_> ok, i'm halfway through the first guide, will there be any lasting damage if i switch to the other guide? so far i've dld and installed a new xorg. I don't know what that is or does...
[08:50] <chris_> and configured it specific to my graphics card
[08:50] <Healot> !display
[08:50] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:50] <obf213> !rootfolders
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootfolders - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <obf213> Healot any idea how i can save a file to a root folder like /usr/bin
[08:51] <Healot> obf213: save what kind of file?
[08:51] <obf213> my jar file
[08:51] <obf213> so i can it from there like the rst of my programs
[08:52] <Healot> the directory /usr/bin is specifically for global user binaries, obf213
[08:52] <chris_> !xorg
[08:52] <obf213> o
[08:52] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:52] <chris_> damnit
[08:52] <Healot> JAR file? keep somewhere else, obf213?
[08:52] <chris_> so xorg is just a type of x?
[08:52] <Healot> home folder maybe, obf213
[08:53] <obf213> yeah i guess
[08:53] <Healot> chris_: Xorg is X server implementation by Xorg :)
[08:53] <obf213> Healot thats not it.
[08:53] <Healot> the prior used by many distro was X11Free by XFree86
[08:54] <obf213> i copied and pasted a file from usr/bin/ back into usr/bin and changed the name off course but permission is denied
[08:54] <obf213> i need to go root somehonw
[08:54] <chris_> !multiverse
[08:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:54] <Healot> obf213: if you need to copy to root-owned directory, you need the root permission to copy
[08:54] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:54] <Healot> !root > obf213
[08:54] <chris_> thanks
[09:03] <Kream> how do I find out from the command line what files a package has installed ?
[09:03] <Healot> dpkg -l <package name>
[09:04] <Healot> man dpkg for more syntax and switches
[09:04] <Jucato> Healot: doesn't that just show the package name, what it has installed?
[09:04] <chris_> !composite manager
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <chris_> do i need composite manager to run xgl?
[09:05] <chris_> what does it do?
[09:05] <cummrad> hi every body
[09:05] <hsn_> i have problems with bacula-sd (package from web, not from distro) it refuses to start at boot time because /var/run/bacula directory is missing, how can i create it every boot?
[09:05] <Jucato> Kream: I think Healot meant "dpkg -L <package_name>"
[09:06] <obf213> healot thanks
[09:07] <cummrad> from where i can get RealPlyer Plugin ??
[09:07] <obf213> i managed to save the file where i wanted it and and assigned a menu button for it, except it never opens unless i right click nad choose place in run dialog.
[09:07] <obf213> !mp3 >cummrad
[09:08] <Kream> ahh :
[09:08] <Kream> :)
[09:08] <Kream> thanks :)
[09:08] <cummrad> no no .. i mean  *.ram  or *.rm
[09:09] <obf213> cummrad go to the link
[09:09] <obf213> it explains real player as weel
[09:09] <Jucato> cummrad: once the libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs are installed, you can play .rm and .rmvb files in Kaffeine
[09:09] <Healot> cum, cummrad
[09:10] <Jucato> err... that doesn't sound so right, Healot..
[09:10] <Jucato> :-D
[09:10] <Healot> I work as IT executive cum peon :)
[09:11] <Jucato> lol
[09:11] <Healot> well, that's a reality
[09:11] <Healot> at this damn office, have to do things on my own
[09:11] <cummrad> aha mmmmm .. all right .. i'll go to the links which obf213 gave it to me
[09:12] <cummrad> thank for help :)
[09:13] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:13] <_rince_> is last weeks problem with the xserver update fixed?
[09:13] <Jucato> _rince_: yep
[09:14] <Jucato> 12 hours after the incident, a patched/fixed upgrade was made available
[09:15] <_rince_> so it's safe to upgrade again, fine :)
[09:15] <_rince_> thx Jucato
[09:16] <chris_> hi, i'm still having a problem with xgl. i installed it, but when i choose it from the session log in screen and log in, nothing happens
[09:21] <obf213> i have another question, if  i have a menu button that's command is a file, how come when i click the button the file nevr opens but when i place into run dialog it opens
[09:26] <obf213> whts a workpath
[09:26] <obf213> !workpath
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workpath - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <omeow> Hi, how can I make a screenshot of my KDM theme?
[09:41] <hsn_> PrintSreen key
[09:43] <cummrad> or try to press    ALT+PrintScreen
[09:49] <cummrad> WOW .. It works :)
[09:49] <chris_> when i start a session with xgl it hangs, can i end that session from say another tty without rebooting?
[09:51] <Healot> yes
[09:51] <chris_> hwo lol?
[09:52] <Healot> type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[09:52] <Healot> in the other tty of course
[09:52] <Healot> wtf with the laugh anyways
[09:52] <chris_> idk i lol at everything
[09:52] <chris_> but even though i'm running xlg, stop kdm?
[09:52] <Healot> yup
[09:53] <Healot> running "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" will stop all the X-related applications
[09:54] <chris_> kool tahnks
[09:55] <Healot> Kool is kool
[09:55] <n00bsaib0t> #rm -rf /
[09:55] <Jucato> lol
[09:55] <Healot> tobias boon?
[09:56] <Hobbsee> dont run that commant
[09:56] <Jucato> tsk tsk tsk...
[09:56] <Jucato> Hobbsee: hi!!!
[09:56] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[09:56] <Jucato> who was that?
[09:56] <Hobbsee> Jucato: some idiot who ran that in -motu first.
[09:56] <Jucato> hmph
[09:57] <Hobbsee> Jucato: of course, no one in -motu will run that command - they're developers
[09:57] <blankeus> hey guys. i have just done a server install. i just want to install kde and have x11vnc access anything else i should do besides install kde and x11vnc ?
[09:57] <Jucato> lol
[09:57] <Jucato> btw, that command won't work anyway.
[09:57] <Jucato> the "#" means nothing unless you're root....
[09:57] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true that.
[09:58] <Hobbsee> Jucato: there are people who will just see that they get denied, and stick sudo in front of it anyway
[09:58] <Jucato> ehehe....
[09:58] <rouzic_ausente> alegrate, /me ha vuelto
[09:58] <Jucato> someone seemed to have entered #ubuntu-ph and posted the same command, only this time, he/she/it is talking to the resident bot...
[09:59] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yeah, not sure why.
[09:59] <Hobbsee> Jucato: could well be an anon proxy
[09:59] <Jucato> whois n00bsaib0t
[09:59] <Hobbsee> yeah, them
[09:59] <Hobbsee>  *!*@210.5.70.229
[10:00] <Jucato> Hobbsee: we've been getting a lot of um... how would you call it... spam? lately
[10:00] <Jucato> Hobbsee: same IP in #ubuntu-ph
[10:00] <Hobbsee> Jucato: you think this is a lot of spam?  bah.  rubbish :P
[10:00] <Ethos> why is it when it try to "apt-get install cvs build-essential bison flex-old libasound2-dev x-window-system-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libfreetype6-dev libxrender-dev libttf2 libttf-dev msttcorefonts libfontconfig1-dev"
[10:00] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yeah, same as in -motu too
[10:00] <Ethos> i get the message "
[10:00] <Ethos> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:00] <Ethos> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[10:00] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I mean the flooders the other day
[10:00] <Jucato> hm..
[10:00] <Hobbsee> Ethos: no "sudo" in front of the command
[10:01] <Ethos> (Sorry for the spam guys)
[10:01] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true that.  usually it's people running the exploit, and flooders.
[10:01] <Ethos> ok i'll try that. Thanks
[10:01] <Ethos> :)
[10:01] <Ethos> E: Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev :(
[10:01] <Ethos> I suck at linux!!
[10:01] <omeow> Anybody know how to make a screenshot of KDM? My machine crashed and I lost some of the conversation.
[10:02] <omeow> Ethos, why do you want to use command-line tools?
[10:02] <Hobbsee> Ethos: try installing everything but that.  i think that package changed name.
[10:02] <Hobbsee> omeow: because they work?
[10:02] <Ethos> thankyou
[10:02] <Ethos> appreciate it :)
[10:02] <Hobbsee> omeow: something complicated with xnest, and the like
[10:03] <Phreakys> hi
[10:04] <Phreakys> can someone help me with xgl?
[10:04] <Ethos> trying to get steam working with ubuntu, I think it's a bit above me considering my poor linux skills :)
[10:04] <Phreakys> you need wine for that
[10:04] <Ethos> yep
[10:04] <Hobbsee> !xgl
[10:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:04] <Ethos> and the winecvs.sh
[10:04] <Phreakys> wine is ugly
[10:05] <Ethos> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+G%20ames
[10:05] <Ethos> i'm following that guide
[10:06] <Jucato> Hobbsee: is it possible to track down this um... "rm" bot? he's using a different nick in #ubuntu-ph, but same hostmask
[10:09] <chris_> phreakys_: good luck with xgl, i still can't get mine working
[10:10] <Phreakys> heh
[10:10] <Phreakys> tnx
[10:10] <Phreakys> same problem here
[10:10] <Phreakys> you have ati?
[10:10] <chris_> nope nvidia
[10:10] <chris_> mine hangs when i choose it as the session :(
[10:10] <Phreakys> same here
[10:11] <chris_> which guide are u using?
[10:11] <Phreakys> i tried an automated kubuntu script first
[10:11] <omeow> lolxgl
[10:11] <Phreakys> http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060602173658632
[10:11] <Phreakys> this one and
[10:11] <Phreakys> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[10:11] <Phreakys> this one
[10:11] <chris_> i tried that second one, didn't work :(
[10:11] <Phreakys> you may want to try that automated script
[10:12] <Phreakys> http://www.compiz.net/topic-689-xgl-kubuntu-automatic-xgl-installation
[10:12] <chris_> kool thanks
[10:12] <Phreakys> make sure you got all packages installed first, and then dpkg that file
[10:12] <Phreakys> it worked once for me, but its *beeping* up my ati config now
[10:13] <Phreakys> just remove it when you have the same problem
[10:13] <chris_> umm what packages? different sites tell me different ones
[10:13] <phreakys_> ehm
[10:13] <chris_> the compiz ones it requries?
[10:13] <phreakys_> you need compiz cgwd cgwd-themer
[10:14] <phreakys_> and some other stuff. i made a post at the end of that thread on compiz.net with all the packages
[10:14] <agt> Hey does anyone here use the svn version of amarok? I have a problem installing the dependencies - I posted about it here > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1435812#post1435812
[10:14] <phreakys_> required
[10:14] <chris_> kk thanks, but i can't dl the themer
[10:14] <chris_> what repository is it on?
[10:15] <paines> !upstart
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <phreakys_> one of the 3 quinn repos
[10:15] <omeow> I didn't know XGL was stable already.
[10:15] <chris_> kk i'll have a look
[10:15] <chris_> it's not really
[10:15] <phreakys_> ah no
[10:15] <phreakys_> sorry
[10:15] <omeow> No wonder you're having trouble setting it up then.
[10:15] <phreakys_> its allready in cgwd included i believe
[10:16] <chris_> kool
[10:16] <phreakys_> compiz-themer is depreciated
[10:16] <chris_> xgl comes packaged with open suse i think
[10:17] <Ethos> can someone help me install x-window-system-dev?
[10:17] <Ethos> lol
[10:19] <Jucato> !qemu > Jucato
[10:22] <Hobbsee> !find x-window-system-dev
[10:22] <ubotu> Package/file x-window-system-dev does not exist in dapper
[10:23] <Hobbsee> Ethos: you want xorg-dev, i suspect
[10:30] <kyaneos> hi
[10:31] <kyaneos> is necessary to have dbus installed in a common KDE 3.5.4 installation??
[10:31] <Jucato> kyaneos: I think so
[10:33] <kyaneos> Jucato: but nothing deppends on it
[10:33] <Jucato> hm... Hobbsee any thoughts on this?
[10:34] <kyaneos> i am having problems with my kubuntu and i suppossed it is caused by that
[10:34] <Jucato> kyaneos: it will be moot eventually. D-Bus is replacing DCOP in KDE 4...
[10:34] <kyaneos> i do not understand moot
[10:34] <Jucato> err...
[10:35] <Phreakys> another xgl tutor => http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Xgl
[10:35] <Hobbsee> kyaneos: if nothing depends on it, including kubuntu-desktop, then no, you shouldnt have to
[10:35] <Jucato> kyaneos: it won't matter eventually...
[10:35] <kyaneos> Hobbsee: i have not installed kubuntu-desktop
[10:35] <Hobbsee> Jucato: then we'll just update k-d to fix it
[10:36] <Jucato> Hobbsee: yeah. I think k-d install dbus by default?
[10:36] <kyaneos> and do i need to install acpi-support on a desktop computer without functions like hibernate, ...??
[10:37] <kyaneos> yes, it installs it by default
[10:37] <Jucato> kyaneos: a lot of stuff are installed by the default Kubuntu installation that some people don't need
[10:37] <Hobbsee> Jucato: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop | grep dbus - yes it does
[10:37] <Jucato> kyaneos: it's done to make sure that Kubuntu will run on as many different hardware comibinations possible
[10:38] <kyaneos> ok
[10:38] <kyaneos> i understand
[10:38] <Jucato> I personally have no need for DBus, ACPI, CUPS, HP, powernowd, Bluetooth, etc..
[10:39] <Jucato> but I just keep them coz I'm too lazy to remove those... maybe one day I could make a system clean up
[10:39] <kyaneos> xD
[10:39] <Hobbsee> i found out why we install bluetooth stuff, actually
[10:39] <Hobbsee> bluetooth keyboards :P
[10:39] <kyaneos> thank you very much
[10:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato: painful for upgrading if you do that
[10:39] <Jucato> Hobbsee: yeah, specially with kubuntu-desktop gone...
[10:40] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yep
[10:40] <Hobbsee> Jucato: mind you, i'm not sure if that even works anyway - it's on my "poke people to test" list
[10:40] <Jucato> I did a server/minimal install then installed kde-core instead. everything was faster, but a lot of stuff that might be important didn't get installed, notably HAL
[10:40] <blankeus> !x11ssh
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x11ssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <Jucato> maybe I'll try doing a Breezy minimal install with kde-core, then dist-upgrade to Dapper...
[10:43] <blankeus> !vncssh
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <Jucato> wb Hobbsee
[10:43] <blankeus> !vnc
[10:43] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[10:44] <Hobbsee> ty
[10:52] <Jucato> ??? powerplay?? ehehe
[10:53] <rob> sorry, tired :)
[10:53] <Jucato> ^_^
[11:03] <agt> what package should i install to get the KDE headers?
[11:03] <Hobbsee> Jucato: separate partition
[11:04] <Jucato> Hobbsee: got yah! is it useable/stable enough that I could use it for a while? or only for short periods?
[11:04] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i've been using it for the last few months.  there has been breakage though, adn i wouldnt get rid of dapper
[11:05] <Hobbsee> besides, init-crack fun soon
[11:06] <Jucato> yeah I won't get rid of Dapper, definitely
[11:06] <Jucato> just want to take a peek, test, get updated, etc.
[11:06] <Jucato> hm... doesn't kde-devel contain the KDE headers?
[11:07] <agt> Jucato: possibly... when i try to install that, it says there are unmet dependencies
[11:08] <Jucato> agt: is the universe component of the repositories enabled?
[11:09] <agt> Jucato: is that    "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse"?
[11:09] <Jucato> yep
[11:09] <Hobbsee> kde-devel would be in main
[11:09] <Hobbsee> agt: can you pastebin the full error you get there please?
[11:09] <agt> sure
[11:09] <agt> 1 sec
[11:09] <Jucato> yay Hobbseeto the rescue!
[11:09] <Jucato> agt use pastebin
[11:09] <Jucato> !pastebin
[11:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:11] <Jucato> !vmware > Jucato
[11:11] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it's more useful if you can test with proper hardware
[11:11] <Hobbsee> rather than in just vmware
[11:11] <agt> http://pastebin.com/778661 - I'm actually running XFCE and trying to install the SVN version of amarok. I believe the package i may need is kdelibs-dev
[11:11] <Jucato> Hobbsee: oh yes. I was just researching on how to share with XP  on VMWare ehehe
[11:12] <Hobbsee> agt: can you try and install those packages separately, and see where the problem is?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ahhh...
[11:12] <Jucato> agt: you can install Amarok 1.4.2 already from a special repository made by imbradon
[11:12] <Phreakys> http://www.compiz.net/topic-3024-xgl-compiz-kde-session-for-mepis-nvidia
[11:12] <Phreakys> another xgl tutorial with additional kde startup script
[11:13] <Jucato> !amarok
[11:13] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[11:14] <Healot> i r baboon
[11:14] <albacker> what do the dvd of kubuntu have ?
[11:14] <albacker> they have other apps ?
[11:14] <agt> Hobbsee: Try this one - http://pastebin.com/778664
[11:14] <Hobbsee> albacker: all of the stuff in universe on cd
[11:15] <agt> Jucato: I'd rather be able to get the SVN so I can be 'bleeding edge' :p
[11:15] <albacker> Hobbsee, well, i don't think i'll get the DVD, CD is much more better, i can always have the rest with apt-get :)
[11:15] <Hobbsee> libdbus-1-dev: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (= 0.60-6ubuntu8) but 0.62-bmp1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:15] <albacker> does kubuntu accept hardwares as easy as ubuntu ?!
[11:15] <Jucato> ehehehe
[11:15] <Hobbsee> albacker: exactly
[11:15] <Hobbsee> albacker: should do.
[11:15] <Hobbsee> agt: thanks.  can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please?
[11:16] <Hobbsee> agt: and this is dapper?
[11:17] <Phreakys> woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:17] <Phreakys> it works
[11:17] <agt> Hobbsee: Yeah, Dapper - http://pastebin.com/778665 << sources
[11:17] <jott_> agt: remember that the ubuntu amarok deb's have patched path so when you do a default install things get "mixed"
[11:17] <Hobbsee> jott_: we do?
[11:18] <jott_> Hobbsee: yes .. amarokapp and stuff is in /usr/lib/amarok rather than $PREFIX/bin
[11:18] <Phreakys> hm, to soon
[11:18] <Hobbsee> agt: ah yes, recipe for breakage.
[11:18] <Hobbsee> agt: pastebin apt-cache policy libdbus-1-2 please
[11:19] <jott_> agt: do "apt-get build-dep amarok"
[11:19] <Hobbsee> agt: and pastebin apt-cache policy libdbus-1-dev
[11:19] <Hobbsee> jott_: it was - some of the binaries got moved to /usr/bin
[11:19] <Hobbsee> jott_: most of it is in /usr/lib/amarok, yes
[11:19] <albacker> does kubuntu run slower than ubuntu ?
[11:20] <jott_> Hobbsee: well just the launcher wrapper?!... or since when?
[11:20] <Hobbsee> albacker: no
[11:20] <jott_> or the brandon packages?
[11:20] <Hobbsee> jott_: amarokapp is in /usr/bin now - ah, since amarok 1.4.2, or just before
[11:20] <Hobbsee> brandon took my source, so yes
[11:20] <albacker> i mean, i have 3.0 ghz proc p4. 512mb ram, is it sufficient ?
[11:20] <Hobbsee> albacker: yep
[11:20] <albacker> Hobbsee, i think it runs, with all eye-candies it has by default.
[11:20] <agt> Hobbsee: http://pastebin.com/778666 :)
[11:20] <albacker> i think it runs slower *
[11:21] <Phreakys> hm, i put a startup script in .kde/autostart, but it wont execute
[11:21] <Phreakys> tried chmod +x startcompiz
[11:21] <Hobbsee> Phreakys: .kde/Autostart?
[11:21] <Phreakys> yea, that one
[11:21] <jott_> Hobbsee: well my svn deb's still put everything into /usr/lib/amarok like the 1.4.1 ;)...
[11:21] <Phreakys> i didnt use the dir in the chmod command
[11:21] <Hobbsee> jott_: true that.
[11:22] <jott_> but it makes sense to have the app in path... as you can more easily launch gdb against it..
[11:22] <Phreakys> i must have done that wrong
[11:23] <albacker> what packages does KDE have by deafult? is ther any list
[11:23] <albacker> ?
[11:23] <Hobbsee> agt: can you pastebin apt-cache policy libavahi-client-dev and apt-cache policy kdelibs4-dev please?
[11:24] <jott> albacker: apt-cache depends kde
[11:24] <Hobbsee> it's a local problem, i can see that much
[11:24] <jott> (so for the whole kde meta package.. kubuntu-desktop has not all kde)
[11:25] <Jucato> albacker: depends on which KDE metapackage you are looking at
[11:25] <agt> Hobbsee: http://pastebin.com/778668
[11:25] <albacker> Jucato, i was thinking of kubuntu CD. and what packages it had in, by default installation.
[11:25] <Hobbsee> albacker: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop
[11:25] <Hobbsee> sigh.
[11:26] <Jucato> albacker: if you want a GUI version, type this in Konqueror: apt:/show?kubuntu-desktop
[11:26] <albacker> k
[11:26] <albacker> thnx
[11:26] <jott> albacker: to get the "full list" do apt-cache --recurse depends kubuntu-desktop
[11:26] <albacker> k, ill see.
[11:27] <Jucato> "apt-cache --recurse depends  kubuntu-deskop > foo123" to put the output in a file named foo123
[11:27] <Hobbsee> agt: if you use the sources list in !repos, and apt-get update, do you still get the same problem?
[11:28] <Hobbsee> better still, i might just make you a new sources list
[11:28] <Jucato> !repos
[11:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:29] <agt> !easysource
[11:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:29] <Hobbsee> agt: try the repos list at http://pastebin.com/778671 run sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get install kde-devel
[11:30] <albacker> any of you guys went from ubuntu to kubuntu ?
[11:30] <albacker> or better.. from Gnome to KDE.
[11:30] <Jucato> hm... I went from Breezy to Dapper. does that count? ehehe
[11:31] <RogueThunder> Ello, anyone around... mildly compitent alteast willing to help a linux noob? heh...
[11:31] <albacker> Jucato, :) wart to hoary; hoary to breezy; breezy to dapper;; forgot dapper to edgy :P
[11:31] <Jucato> lol
[11:31] <Jucato> used Ubuntu/GNOME for almost a month...
[11:32] <Jucato> (probably not enough time to really get to know GNOME, but I didn't have the luxury of time...)
[11:32] <albacker> ah, well i've used gnome from hoary.
[11:32] <RogueThunder> Im trying to install ndiswrapper, and i put in the command the directions say to use, and it doesnt find the commands... the main point being the "make" command...
[11:32] <Hobbsee> RogueThunder: which version of ndiswrapper would you be using?
[11:32] <Hobbsee> and what guide would you be using?
[11:33] <RogueThunder> 1.23, and the one on their own wiki
[11:33] <RogueThunder> Lets put it this way, im new enough to this that i had to look up the change directory command XD.
[11:33] <agt> Hobbsee: Still the same problem unfortunately
[11:34] <RogueThunder> Though, ive operated in dos for extended periods of time...
[11:34] <Hobbsee> agt: darn.
[11:34] <RogueThunder> So, im somewhat fermilar with, abeit incredibly different, command lines.
[11:34] <Hobbsee> !ndiswrapper
[11:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:34] <Hobbsee> RogueThunder: ahh.  apt-get install build-essentials
[11:34] <RogueThunder> yeah see...
[11:34] <RogueThunder> uh
[11:34] <RogueThunder> yeah
[11:34] <RogueThunder> last i checked
[11:34] <RogueThunder> that requires a net connection
[11:35] <RogueThunder> which, wihtout ndiswrapper
[11:35] <RogueThunder> i cant have on that computer
[11:35] <Hobbsee>   sudo apt-get install dh-make fakeroot gcc-3.4 build-essential
[11:35] <Hobbsee> it's on the cd
[11:35] <RogueThunder> ah... ok well ill see... heh
[11:35] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:35] <Jucato> err.. Alternate Install CD only... iirc
[11:36] <kraut> moin
[11:36] <RogueThunder> "Couldnt find dh-make"
[11:37] <RogueThunder> I take it thats a problem.
[11:38] <RogueThunder> Hobbsee?
[11:38] <mikki> need some help with my wireless connection
[11:38] <Hobbsee> !info dh-make
[11:38] <ubotu> dh-make: tool that converts source archives into Debian package source. In component main, is optional. Version 0.40 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 380 kB
[11:38] <Hobbsee> RogueThunder: right, try without it then.
[11:39] <Hobbsee> RogueThunder: why *are* you compiling ndiswrapper anyway, by the way?
[11:39] <Hobbsee> RogueThunder: tha'ts on the cd too
[11:39] <RogueThunder> couldnt find fakeroot...
[11:39] <RogueThunder> eh? couldnt find it
[11:39] <Hobbsee> right, ignore that too then
[11:39] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[11:40] <RogueThunder> uh yeah.. i dont think its checking the cd
[11:40] <RogueThunder> which, is in
[11:40] <Hobbsee> RogueThunder: is the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list commented out?
[11:42] <RogueThunder> um
[11:42] <Hobbsee> RogueThunder: does it have a # in front of it, sorry
[11:43] <RogueThunder> im pretty sure everythings commented out in here...
[11:43] <RogueThunder> and heh i know what commented out is
[11:43] <RogueThunder> nothing has anything that would suggest its assosiated with my dvd, or cdrw in here
[11:43] <Hobbsee> RogueThunder: okay, run "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[11:43] <Hobbsee> then sudo apt-get update
[11:45] <RogueThunder> right right
[11:45] <RogueThunder> no crazy error messages yet ^.^
[11:45] <RogueThunder> and
[11:45] <RogueThunder> the ndis install works
[11:46] <RogueThunder> ^.^ thanks
[11:46] <agt> Hobbsee: I think I'll just stick with a deb from that kubuntu repository. Thanks for your help m8
[11:46] <Hobbsee> agt: okay
[11:47] <jott> altough amarok svn finally reintroduced moodbar ;p
[11:49] <whatever> I can use ftp, irc but can't  browse!!
[11:49] <whatever> whats up?
[11:49] <albacker> would you guys tell me to get kubuntu and do a fresh install or just install kubuntu-desktop, and some kde apps ?
[11:50] <whatever> wget also gets stuck on "resolving google.com ..."
[11:51] <RogueThunder> Ooooh this sounds like a good thing. "Driver Present, Hardware Present"
[11:51] <RogueThunder> ^.^
[11:51] <Hobbsee> RogueThunder: yay :)
[11:52] <RogueThunder> now to get this darn thing actualy working...
[11:56] <albacker> hmm
[11:56] <albacker> Gnome is also a bit faster. Sure, I've encountered a few KDE distributions that are super-fast out-of-the-box (PCLinuxOS and Kubuntu, for example), but once I tweak them and install all the software I want and change up the themes and load in the icons I want, KDE inevitably becomes sluggish. When I click on an icon, it can take up to around 10 seconds for the application to launch.
[11:58] <RogueThunder> ...
[11:59] <albacker> i was reading this : http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome.php
[11:59] <albacker> and that's what came out.
[11:59] <albacker> i think i'll stick with gnome, but i'll download kubuntu .iso too.
[12:00] <RogueThunder> This is certainly interesting... this tutorial says the drivers are supposed to be in the /etc/ndiswrapper directory...
[12:01] <RogueThunder> There is no such direcotry i can find...
[12:05] <mikki> need some help with my wireless connection
[12:06] <RogueThunder> Heh, just... hopefully finishing up with my own figuring out of such.
[12:06] <mikki> do i need to install a driver
[12:06] <RogueThunder> with.. much help
[12:06] <RogueThunder> *chuckles* yes
[12:06] <RogueThunder> mostlikely
[12:07] <RogueThunder> !ndiswrapper
[12:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:07] <RogueThunder> ^.^
[12:07] <RogueThunder> start there...
[12:07] <mikki> ok
[12:07] <RogueThunder> though, i found the one on ndiswrapper's sourceforge site more usefull
[12:08] <RogueThunder> ndiswrapper isnt the driver itself, but it is required to use most, it is found on your disk if you didnt install it during install
[12:09] <RogueThunder> basicaly if i understand it right, lets linux hijack a good ol windows driver
[12:15] <cox377> Hello all
[12:15] <cox377> i was wondering if it's possible to connect to a windows xp remote desktop from a kubuntu machine?
[12:18] <jott> !info krdc
[12:18] <RogueThunder> i well imagine its possible
[12:18] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 490 kB, installed size 956 kB
[12:18] <RogueThunder> i doubt its easy.
[12:18] <tn3270> i think i have done that before: using tightvnc server on xp and krdc on kubuntu
[12:18] <RogueThunder> or... i could be wrong
[12:19] <tn3270> just need to configure the server part, depending on which *vnc server you use
[12:44] <ubuntu> hola
[12:48] <RogueJediX> Anyone have any idea whether upgrading to Windows XP from within Windows 2k, screws up GRUB?
[12:50] <Hobbsee> RogueJediX: i would expect so.  you'd need to reinstall !grub
[12:51] <RogueJediX> Crud. How would I access Linux to do that, then?
[12:51] <Hobbsee> !grub
[12:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:52] <Hobbsee> RogueJediX: top link :)
[12:52] <RogueJediX> Handy. Thanks.
[12:53] <kristina> how to get german support?
[12:54] <RogueJediX> kristina: #kubuntu-de ,I think the channel was
[12:55] <Hobbsee> !de
[12:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:56] <ubuntu> hi
[12:57] <ubuntu> is this working ok
[01:01] <morget> ich hab ein problem mit kubuntu: ich hab kubuntu auf eine festplatte installiert, nach der erfolgreichen installation wollt ich meine anderen festplatten wieder am ide-controller anschlissen, allerdings hngt sich kubuntu beim booten auf, an der estelle wo kommt "mounting foot file system".
[01:01] <Hobbsee> !de
[01:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:01] <morget> ...
[01:08] <Jucato> Hobbsee: you're back!?!
[01:09] <Hobbsee> Jucato: quite possibly
[01:09] <Jucato> oh. I thought you were her ghost or something. ehehe
[01:11] <Hobbsee> Jucato: :P
[01:19] <synaptics> hello.. is it possible to play wmv file formats?
[01:19] <synaptics> in kubuntu
[01:21] <Mehercle> yes
[01:21] <Mehercle> with kmplayer
[01:22] <synaptics> where can i get kmplayer?
[01:22] <Mehercle> sudo apt-get install kmplayer
[01:22] <Mehercle> or adept
[01:22] <synaptics> thanks Mehercle
[01:22] <atidem> synaptics: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:22] <Mehercle> np
[01:22] <synaptics> hopefully i can play those files
[01:23] <Mehercle> i've checked it yesterday
[01:23] <Mehercle> i was writing a script
[01:26] <synaptics> Mehercle: i tried using kmplayer, all i could hear is the sound and not the video
[01:26] <Mehercle> stange
[01:26] <Mehercle> strange
[01:26] <Mehercle> !restrictedformats
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:34] <revolver> scusate ho un problema, ho appena scaricatowolfenstein e.t.,, un file. run, vi spiacerebbe dirmi come fare per installarlo, ho cercato dappertutto ma non capisco
[01:39] <RogueJediX> revolver: #kubuntu-it
[01:43] <kristina_> how to edit the sources.list to install vlc and other non supported software? have dapper
[01:45] <Hobbsee> kristina_: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:46] <kristina_> and what i have to add there?
[01:46] <kristina_> or to cange
[01:46] <kristina_> change
[01:47] <sleeptyper> Konversation crashed...
[01:51] <kristina_> hello
[01:51] <andi_> hello
[01:54] <kevjava_> kristina:  Try easyubuntu ( http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org )
[01:54] <Hobbsee> heh, they've gone
[01:54] <kevjava_> It will write the sources.list for you.
[01:54] <Hobbsee> besides, vlc is already in the repos.
[01:55] <kevjava_> I thought so.
[02:00] <dhq> how do i upgrage to kde 3.5.4
[02:03] <kevjava_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227777
[02:03] <kevjava_> It's not recommended at the moment, I don't think.
[02:04] <dhq> kevjava_: why
[02:05] <dhq> kevjava_: its not stable
[02:05] <Lynoure> Any recommendations for a ide in kde to be used with python?
[02:11] <alex_> i have an old pc
[02:11] <dhq> is it safe for me to upgrade to kde 3.5.4
[02:12] <alex_> there is pc133 ram. can i add pc 100 ram
[02:12] <alex_> ?
[02:12] <atidem> Lynoure: eclipse and pydev
[02:12] <alex_> on ram stand "pc100-322-620"
[02:13] <Lynoure> atidem: thanks, I'll try them
[02:14] <atidem> or eric3
[02:14] <atidem> :)
[02:15] <Jucato> kdevelop doesn't do python?
[02:15] <alex_> i have pc133 ram installed. can i add pc 100 ram??
[02:16] <sleeptyper> yes
[02:16] <sleeptyper> but the 133 will run at 100 after that
[02:17] <dhq> alex_: i guess you can add the ram as the pc133 and pc 100 architecture is diffrent
[02:18] <dhq> alex_: your pc may not even start it will hang at boot
[02:18] <sleeptyper> nah..
[02:18] <sleeptyper> 133 can work at 100 with no problemo
[02:19] <Jucato> as long as the mobo supports both 133 and 100, right?
[02:19] <sleeptyper> yep
[02:19] <sleeptyper> but all 133 are downward compatible
[02:21] <dhq> sleeptyper: the best way is to try it out and see
[02:21] <sleeptyper> indeed...
[02:22] <sleeptyper> i have seen a mobo trying to enforce a 100 to run at 133.... ofcourse it failed
[02:22] <sleeptyper> had to manually set it to 100MHz
[02:23] <dhq> i had a mobo which ran 133ram but wen i used 100 it just hanged
[02:23] <dhq> ie i33 and 100 togeather
[02:23] <sleeptyper> then the bios failed
[02:23] <baldi> hello
[02:24] <sleeptyper> it should have ran the 133 at 100
[02:24] <dhq> yeah may be anyways i resold the 100ram and bought a 133ram
[02:25] <sleeptyper> heh
[02:25] <took> hi
[02:26] <took> i'm quite new to ubuntu and i gotta little problem with Adept Installer
[02:27] <took> some packets are know to Adept Installer but "greyed-out"
[02:27] <took> and i have no clue why and how to "activate" those items
[02:27] <took> can anybody help?
[02:27] <dhq> sleeptyper: is it safe to upgrade kde 3.5.3 to kde 3.5.4
[02:28] <sleeptyper> no idea...
[02:29] <dhq> no what you using
[02:29] <took> s/know/knowen/g
[02:32] <sleeptyper> hmm
[02:33] <took> i tryed google. some pages say: by default all are gray. You have to right-click and select "enabled"... but if I click on the item nothing happens...
[02:33] <Jucato_> took: what seems to be the problem?
[02:34] <took> no clue. I dont know how it should work...
[02:34] <took> can u right-click items in adept installer?
[02:34] <Jucato_> took: no
[02:35] <Jucato_> what are you trying to do, btw? I just came in
[02:35] <took> ;)
[02:35] <took> ah i see
[02:35] <took> k
[02:35] <took> some packets are know to Adept Installer but "greyed-out"
[02:35] <took> s/know/knowen/g
[02:36] <Jucato_> ah.
[02:36] <took> dont know how to activate
[02:36] <Jucato_> I will introduce you to Adept Installer's older and more powerful brother: Adept
[02:36] <Jucato_> go to K Menu > System > Adep (Package Manager)
[02:36] <Jucato_> s/Adep/Adept
[02:37] <Jucato_> then once in Adept, go to the Adept menu > Manage Repositories
[02:52] <dhq> is it safe to upgrade kde 3.5.3 to kde 3.5.4
[02:53] <sleeptyper> dhq, mine is 3.5.2
[02:54] <Jucato_> it's "relatively" safe
[02:54] <dhq> sleeptyper: well they say 3.5.4 is amazing the transpent effect plus faster  konsole etc
[02:54] <Jucato_> which transparent effect?
[02:55] <took> Jucato_: wb. thx. I'm making some progress now :)
[02:55] <Lynoure> Effects are usually just amazingly useless :)
[02:55] <Jucato_> Lynoure: it depends on the person using it
[02:55] <Jucato_> took: glad I could help
[02:55] <sleeptyper> hmm
[02:56] <sleeptyper> a friend installed xgl in gnome...does it work ok in KDE as well?
[02:56] <took> thx a lot again :)
[02:56] <Lynoure> Jucato_: of course
[02:56] <took> its workin now
[02:57] <dhq> sleeptyper: how do i configure opengl
[02:57] <Lynoure> Jucato_: I have even met people who want to have a sound effect for everything, every time
[02:57] <Jucato_> ehehe
[02:58] <dhq> sleeptyper: i tried xgl and my full system got scre**
[02:58] <sleeptyper> ...
[02:59] <dhq> sleeptyper: how do i configure opengl
[03:00] <sleeptyper> i've been using Kubuntu for a week...
[03:00] <sleeptyper> = no idea
[03:04] <vdabeel> Hello all
[03:05] <Jucato_> hi
[03:05] <vdabeel> I have a little question , but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere
[03:06] <Lynoure> vdabeel: ask?
[03:07] <vdabeel> If you select a command in terminal with your mouse , how can you make this is automaticly copied
[03:07] <vdabeel> so you don't eacht time have to select & paste with your mouse
[03:07] <vdabeel> I want to have a "putty" like behavior
[03:08] <vdabeel> if you understand my problem , not easy to find the right 'google' terms
[03:08] <Lynoure> vdabeel: that's ssh or scp
[03:08] <vdabeel> no ssh or scp , just terminal commands
[03:09] <Lynoure> vdabeel: konsole
[03:09] <Tm_T> vdabeel: err, you mean, paste with middle button? ;)
[03:09] <vdabeel> yep Konsole
[03:09] <vdabeel> ok , stupid me
[03:09] <Tm_T> vdabeel: select -> middle button paste is default *nix behaviour
[03:09] <Lynoure> vdabeel: it's in the menu, under system
[03:09] <vdabeel> I was always trying with left mouse button , because I was used to in putty
[03:10] <vdabeel> but I guess I can change this , will take a look into system/menu
[03:11] <andy> Hello from colorado
[03:11] <Lynoure> Oh, sorry, I got confused, but perhaps it is configurable
[03:12] <vdabeel> anyway , middle mouse-button will do as well :)
[03:12] <vdabeel> thx for the help
[03:12] <Jucato_> imbrandon: you're here! ^_^
[03:12] <imbrandon> i'm always here
[03:12] <imbrandon> but i'm afk , brb
[03:12] <imbrandon> lol
[03:12] <Jucato_> lol
[03:12] <Jucato_> ok...
[03:13] <Jucato_> (your nick wasnt here a couple of hours ago, though...)
[03:13] <andy> Can someone please tell me the repository country code for the united states?
[03:14] <Jucato_> us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:14] <andy> Thnk you
[03:14] <Jucato_> make that http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:16] <andy> I mean thank you very much
[03:16] <Jucato_> glad I could help (I wasn't even sure that it was what ou were looking for...)
[03:16] <andy> This is my first time on IRC it is nice.
[03:17] <Jucato_> ^_^
[03:18] <andy> Is there a site that explains more about it?
[03:18] <andy> IRC I mean.
[03:18] <Jucato_> hmm... which part of IRC?
[03:18] <andy> The basics
[03:18] <Jucato_> oh.. hm...
[03:19] <andy> How to find the differnt "rooms"?
[03:19] <Jucato_> http://www.irc.org/ ??
[03:19] <Jucato_> each IRC client has different wasy to do that, andy.
[03:19] <andy> Thank you again!
[03:20] <Jucato_> If you're using Konversation, you can list available rooms/channels on this server (freenode) in the Window menu > Channel list for freenode
[03:22] <baldi> andy: /list
[03:22] <Jucato_> baldi: that works too. ehehehe
[03:23] <baldi> ;-)
[03:23] <Jucato_> andy: you might also be interested in a short IRC Class that we had before, it was basically an introduction to IRC on Linux. Actually, more of how to use the IRC Clients.
[03:24] <Jucato_> Here's a link to the transcript of that class: http://jucato.multiply.com/journal/item/28
[03:24] <andy> Right on!
[03:26] <Jucato_> andy: you made me research for IRC stuff, now I'm gonna flood you with links to read :-D
[03:27] <andy> You are too kind.
[03:28] <Jucato_> These are from the Ubuntu wiki and help pages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines?action=show&redirect=IRCGuidelines
[03:28] <Jucato_> lol! those are only 2. it seems that the other pages just redirecto to those...
[03:30] <andy> I am going to read what I have.
[03:30] <LeeJunFan> Hrm, just edited /etc/openoffice/sofficerc to Logo=0 and I still get the splash screen.
[03:37] <dhq> which is the best kde gnome fluxbox etc ...
[03:39] <Jucato_> aah... the silence...
[03:39] <LouKall> [pissing] 
[03:39] <Jucato_> none are better. it all depends on the person using it
[03:54] <Chuck> Does anybody know how to share an internet connection over LAN to the device ppp0?
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> Chuck, look up debian-administration.org. theres a howto there
[03:55] <Chuck> thanx?
[03:55] <Chuck> thx!
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> its called 'setting up a simple debian gateway', if you follow that, then read the comments, theres a quick fix to get it working over ppp
[03:56] <Chuck> k
[04:06] <mzelem> Does anyone know where I could find a how to on how to set up a network where you can share samba and such on eth0 and use internet on ppp0?
[04:06] <Chuck> debian-administration.org
[04:07] <Chuck> but Im trying, how to get work...
[04:07] <Chuck> or look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[04:08] <mzelem> ok, thank you
[04:13] <Mastastealth> hey guys, does anyone know if a package has been made for amarok 1.4.2?
[04:14] <Jucato> !amarok
[04:14] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[04:14] <Mastastealth> :) thx
[04:14] <Jucato> it's made by a Kubuntu developer, so you can trust the package
[04:15] <KeenEars> hi again guyz =)
[04:16] <KeenEars> yesterdays idea with livecd was good, but not with KDE and 256 mb ram ;)
[04:17] <Chuck> for low memory use xubuntu
[04:19] <KeenEars> they do not send it
[04:20] <KeenEars> i just need to install and use hd`s filesystem for packages
[04:49] <gotmilk>  i have the wierdest problem, im on my xp laptop at the moment using dhcp and net is working, however in kubuntu ive gotten my ip addess assign from the dhcp server but unable to access the net at all
[04:51] <mzelem> gotmilk: are you sure it's not a dns issue?
[04:52] <gotmilk> with my isp?
[04:53] <melknix> somebody have written a robocup?
[04:54] <gotmilk> where can i set the dns ?
[04:54] <fritsch> gotmilk: i think this look as an "mtu" problem to me
[04:54] <gotmilk> hrmm should look before i speak
[04:54] <octan> gotmilk, for your isp ?
[04:54] <sleeptyper> any way to make Konversation to arrange channel tabs alphabetically ?
[04:54] <fritsch> gotmilk: you get an IP and "/etc/resolv.conf" is updated?
[04:55] <Jucato> sleeptyper: I don't think so, but you can rearrange the tabs manually...
[04:55] <sleeptyper> ...
[04:55] <sleeptyper> i like automation :)
[04:55] <Jucato> sleeptyper: ehehe
[04:55] <gotmilk> mzelem wins the prize
[04:55] <gotmilk> lol
[04:56] <gotmilk> thanks i didnt even think to check dns
[04:56] <spaos> hi
[04:56] <spaos> all
[04:56] <octan> hi
[04:56] <Jucato> hi to those who said hi
[04:57] <near> i just wonder how to make kunbuntu faster
[04:57] <gotmilk> now that ive got net going, what should i run to make sure everything is upto date
[04:57] <octan> apt-get update & apt-het upgrade
[04:58] <gotmilk> whats het do?
[04:58] <sleeptyper> he typoed
[04:58] <octan> yea
[04:59] <octan> sorry
[04:59] <sleeptyper> use sudo to get it work right
[05:02] <near> i changed from unbuntu to kunbuntu
[05:02] <near> but now everything is slow
[05:02] <near> why ?
[05:02] <octan> coz kde is slower than gnome :P
[05:03] <Near> youre joking ?
[05:03] <[GuS] > KDE has more stuff than Gnome :P
[05:03] <octan> no,
[05:03] <octan> yes
[05:03] <octan> but its slower
[05:03] <octan> not much tho
[05:03] <[GuS] > octan, is has more stuff/service.. will be more slower
[05:03] <[GuS] > don't you think?
[05:03] <octan> hats logic
[05:03] <[GuS] > indeed.. the diff. is almost none
[05:03] <octan> thats
[05:03] <Near> ok let's remove all stuff
[05:04] <sleeptyper> fast enuff on amd64 3200+ 2G 8)
[05:04] <[GuS] > Near, if your system is much much slower... i don't think is for KDE
[05:04] <[GuS] > how di you installed kde?
[05:04] <octan> hah fast enough for me and my amd64 xp3700+ 2 gb ram :P
[05:04] <octan> too
[05:04] <Near> pentium 1G 256 mo ram
[05:04] <gotmilk> im pretty stocked at how its running on this p3 600mhz
[05:04] <[GuS] > me too
[05:05] <[GuS] > Near, how did you installed kde?
[05:05] <[GuS] > did you do with the command: sudo  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[05:06] <Near> cmd line direcly from ubuntu
[05:06] <Near> yes
[05:06] <[GuS] > ok
[05:06] <Near> is it evil ?
[05:06] <octan> no
[05:06] <[GuS] > is the right way :)
[05:06] <[GuS] > but yes.. in old computers.. maybe is more slow
[05:06] <[GuS] > since KDE runs more services/apps than Gnome
[05:07] <Jucato> now you have 2 desktops: GNOME and KDE...
[05:07] <KeenEars> especially if u have low mem
[05:07] <gotmilk> how do i save the sources.list in kate after making changes, keeps telling me access denied
[05:07] <[GuS] > yeah
[05:07] <[GuS] > specially that
[05:07] <octan> gotmilk kdesu kate
[05:07] <Jucato> gotmilk: you must Edit as Root
[05:07] <[GuS] > if you have a slow mProcessor.. you need more ram then :)
[05:07] <gotmilk> oh yeah forgot about that
[05:07] <Near> erf
[05:07] <octan> gotmilk, use kdesu kate
[05:08] <Jucato> gotmilk: either luanch Kate as root "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" or right-click on sources.list, select Actions > Edit as Root
[05:08] <Near> thx gus for all tips
[05:08] <[GuS] > or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <sleeptyper> so if i want to compare gnome/kde ... i do "sudo ap-get install ubuntu-desktop" ?
[05:08] <[GuS] > Your welcome Near
[05:08] <gotmilk> yeah thanks Jucato just did that then (xp user forgetting about not being as root lol)
[05:08] <[GuS] > sleeptyper, that if you want to install Gnome desktop (or ubuntu)
[05:09] <jumpeing> posdrafiam fszystkich Polakf
[05:09] <Jucato> actually I would recommend using aptitude if you're just going to test it
[05:09] <sleeptyper> how do i switch between the two ?
[05:09] <[GuS] > by the Login session
[05:09] <sleeptyper> right
[05:09] <[GuS] > you  will be available to choose Gnome or KDE
[05:09] <sleeptyper> good...
[05:09] <[GuS] > Jucato, why aptitude?
[05:10] <Jucato> [GuS] : so that it could more easily removed later on. Aptitude has better metapackage handling than apt-get
[05:10] <sleeptyper> heh...one thing i won't miss - XP's constant need for restarts in every corner
[05:10] <[GuS] > ok.. so removing ubuntu-desktop will remove all packages?
[05:10] <[GuS] > (from Ubuntu-desktop)
[05:11] <KeenEars> guys do ya have problems with kubuntu installer ?
[05:11] <[GuS] > usign aptitude i mean.
[05:11] <Jucato> only If ubuntu-desktop was installed with aptitude
[05:11] <[GuS] > ok Jucato , that i didn't know.. i always use apt
[05:11] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:11] <[GuS] > and apt just remove the virtual package
[05:11] <utab> hey is there a way to listen to online radio stations that broadcast on windows media player
[05:11] <[GuS] > thanks :)
[05:11] <Jucato> [GuS] : that will only remove that virtual package, and not the dependencies that were installed with it
[05:12] <utab> or real player
[05:12] <[GuS] > yeah.. i know
[05:12] <[GuS] > i just tried before with apt
[05:12] <[GuS] > just i didn't know that aptitude will do the job ;)
[05:12] <gotmilk> anyone else able to reach au.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[05:13] <[GuS] > that host has no ping response gotmilk
[05:13] <Hobbsee> gotmilk: i seem to be able to
[05:13] <[GuS] > at least from here
[05:13] <KeenEars> i `ve get strange problems with partitions setting yesterday
[05:13] <Hobbsee> Get:3 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release [34.7kB] 
[05:13] <Jucato> ping responses here...
[05:13] <[GuS] > seems in some places has no response
[05:14] <gotmilk> wierd
[05:14] <gotmilk> should i just use another archive?
[05:14] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:14] <Jucato> definitely
[05:14] <Jucato> absolutely positively
[05:14] <gotmilk> lol
[05:14] <gotmilk> which u recommend
[05:15] <Near> is it safe to remove kdcop ?
[05:15] <sleeptyper> 500ms from finland...
[05:15] <[GuS] > 102083ms (and without ping..) from Argentina :P
[05:15] <sleeptyper> kinda fast ping to australia even when my line is filled with traffic
[05:15] <Jucato> Near: i don't think so
[05:15] <KeenEars> no response
[05:15] <KeenEars> from russia
[05:16] <Near> thx
[05:16] <Jucato> gotmilk: I got ping responses from the Philippines... 353ms
[05:17] <Jucato> nooooo!!!!!
[05:17] <Jucato> T_T
[05:18] <Jucato> so not fair....
[05:18] <KeenEars> btw, why kubuntu installer isn`t support reiser4 creation ? or i did smth wrong ?
[05:18] <Jucato> Is there any other mind mapping app besides KDissert?
[05:19] <gotmilk> whats the prog that acts like command prompt in counter strike and that
[05:19] <gotmilk> like konsole
[05:19] <Jucato> KeenEars: because reiser4 isn't supported by the kernel, the Desktop CD installer offers only the most basic installation options
[05:19] <nalioth> gotmilk: yakuake
[05:19] <KeenEars> juc: ubuntu has no problems with it, just kubuntu
[05:20] <KeenEars> same version
[05:20] <Riddell> KeenEars: because qtparted doesn't support it
[05:20] <KeenEars> ubuntu 6.06 created part and used it just fine
[05:20] <gotmilk> ta
[05:20] <sleeptyper> soo, when i get the gnome installed, xgl works in it ok?
[05:21] <KeenEars> ah, ok. but if i create this part by other means, can i install ?
[05:21] <DaSkreech> sleeptyper: XGl is below both Gnome and KDE so both of them can use it
[05:21] <Jucato> Hi Riddell!
[05:21] <utab> anyone listens online radios broadcasting on windows media
[05:21] <sleeptyper> k
[05:21] <kyaneos> how can i disable the korganizer reminder daemon??
[05:21] <Jucato> lol
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Get ready to Humble!!!
[05:21] <sleeptyper> luckily a friend (more linux-literate) managed to install it succesfully  :)
[05:22] <Jucato> kyaneos: right-click on the Korganizer system tray and uncheck the option?
[05:22] <nalioth> utab: perhaps ask in ##windows ?
[05:22] <Riddell> KeenEars: that should be fine, you can install gparted for example and use that from the live cd
[05:22] <kyaneos> Jucato: but when i start kontact it appears another time
[05:22] <utab> nalioth : I mean on a linux box, because all of them broadcast in windoes media
[05:23] <nalioth> utab: i usually capture windows media streams before playing them back
[05:23] <Jucato> kyaneos: because it's part of Kontact. in Kontact go to Settings > Configure Kontact > Select Components and uncheck Calendar
[05:23] <utab> nalioth : no direct way to listen them live
[05:23] <gotmilk> how do i tell which version of dapper i am>
[05:23] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know of any possible way that I could minimize an xterm window to the system tray?
[05:24] <kyaneos> Jucato: and it do the same
[05:24] <Jucato> hmm...
[05:24] <nalioth> utab: i've had more trouble trying to get live WMA streams going, i just capture the stuff i want
[05:24] <DaSkreech> gotmilk: cat /etc/issue
[05:24] <DaSkreech> gotmilk: or lsb_release -a
[05:25] <utab> nalioth, thx
[05:25] <Jucato> kyaneos: that's strange...  Calendar was enabled again...
[05:26] <utab> is there anyone else to join the discussion on live radio stations on linux
[05:26] <Jucato> kyaneos: probably you have to uninstall korganizer. but I wouldn't know if that's a wise move or not
[05:27] <nalioth> gotmilk: what exactly do you mean, 'download isn't working' ?
[05:28] <kyaneos> okis
[05:28] <gotmilk> the file isnt available from the site
[05:28] <kyaneos> thank you very much Jucato
[05:28] <utab> nalioth, youtube and google video are ok but things requiring wmv, it is not, but I can view WMV files under xine
[05:28] <nalioth> gotmilk: use adept, it's in the repos
[05:28] <nalioth> !info yakuake
[05:28] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[05:29] <nalioth> gotmilk: enable your universe and multiverse repositories and use adept to install it
[05:29] <utab> nalioth, what is the difference
[05:29] <gotmilk> k thanks
[05:29] <Jucato> gotmilk Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:29] <trappist> utab: only thing I can't view is wmv9 on amd64
[05:29] <nalioth> utab: microsoft is the culprit in this.
[05:30] <trappist> but I heard the realplayer folks are gonna fix all this for us, open-source style
[05:30] <utab> trappist, how do you listen online radio stations if you do
[05:30] <trappist> utab: I don't much, but usually xmms or amarok
[05:31] <trappist> sometimes mplayer if it gets tricky
[05:31] <utab> trappist, by giving the URL
[05:31] <trappist> utab: mplayer 'url' has never failed me
[05:31] <utab> trappist thx for the help
[05:31] <rata> holaaa
[05:34] <nalioth> utab: you see, microsoft changes the format of the multimedia streams with each version
[05:35] <aseigo> Riddell: ping?
[05:36] <aseigo> "let our rings unite!" ;)
[05:36] <Jucato> lol
[05:36] <Jucato> almost Wednesday... looking forward to another Plasma blog :-D
[05:36] <aseigo> yep.. tomorrow =)
[05:37] <gotmilk> thanks for the help guys
[05:37] <gotmilk> nite
[05:37] <Jucato> koolness!
[05:39] <Riddell> aseigo: hi
[05:40] <utab> trappist, how do u play an url in mplayer
[05:40] <sleeptyper> open location ?
[05:40] <danny500> How do I get mplayer on my machine?
[05:40] <trappist> utab: I just say mplayer 'url'
[05:41] <danny500> How do I get MPlayer on my computer?
[05:42] <danny500> ?
[05:42] <utab> trappist I get some error messages
[05:42] <danny500> anybody?
[05:42] <abattoir> danny500: 'sudo apt-get install mplayer'
[05:43] <Jucato> !mplayer
[05:43] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[05:43] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:43] <abattoir> danny500: its in multiverse
[05:43] <utab> trappist can you give me an URL
[05:43] <trappist> utab: don't have one handy
[05:43] <danny500> I know but it say's it's not made for the archetecture of my system
[05:43] <aseigo> Riddell: hey dude =) you now how i blogged about those kde machines in teh mall?
[05:43] <aseigo> er, the mall
[05:43] <danny500>  I know but it say's it's not made for the archetecture of my system
[05:43] <aseigo> Riddell: well,  visited them yesterday ... they are kiosk'd down kubuntu systems =)
[05:43] <Riddell> aseigo: rocking
[05:44] <Riddell> aseigo: take a photo?
[05:44] <aseigo> Riddell: people were using them ... waiting in line even
[05:44] <aseigo> Riddell: no, didn't have a cam with me... will have to fix that.. but yeah, the mall has put up a free hotspot and a couple of machines for public use in addition to the hotspot.. and whoever put it in used kubuntu
[05:44] <utab> trappist, do I need extra codecs or ...
[05:45] <trappist> utab: depends on the stream
[05:45] <aseigo> Riddell: the kiosk is pretty well set up too... they only missed being able to set wallpapers via the servicemenus ;)
[05:45] <utab> trappist, actually I have activated most
[05:45] <Riddell> uh oh, what did you set it to :)
[05:45] <dj_baggio> hmm...when I try install sth in konsole I have: DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.
[05:45] <dj_baggio> any ideas how can I delete this? :)
[05:45] <aseigo> Riddell: but though you might like to know ... first public general internet systems in the malls around calgary that i'm aware of... and look what they use ;)
[05:46] <Jucato> lol
[05:46] <Riddell> locking down windows is very hard
[05:46] <aseigo> Riddell: humerously, someone(s?) had downloaded some windows binaries to the desktop (they kept the home dir writable) of one of the machines...
[05:46] <aseigo> Riddell: we giggled about that ;)
[05:47] <aseigo> brought me back to the whole "kubuntu ought to ship with some premade kiosk configs..."
[05:47] <danny500> I know how to make games on windows run faster
[05:47] <aseigo> i'm going to see if i can find out who set up the systems in the mall, too... make ocntact and what not
[05:47] <Jucato> .exe files on a Linux kiosk.......
[05:47] <Riddell> we have a spec for that, just takes some time to implement it
[05:47] <aseigo> Riddell: yep =)
[05:47] <Ethos> guys how can I install x-window-system-dev?
[05:48] <Ethos> I'm having some problems with it
[05:48] <Ethos> :)
[05:48] <aseigo> Riddell: if i get bored i might even contribute some to that... not before akademy though
[05:48] <danny500> Ethos
[05:48] <Ethos> (Sorry i'm new to linux)
[05:48] <danny500> I'll help you ok
[05:48] <Ethos> thanks
[05:48] <dj_baggio> sudo apt-get install "package" :)
[05:48] <danny500> do you have msn messanger?
[05:48] <Ethos> yep
[05:49] <danny500> danieldewitt_75@hotmail.com
[05:49] <danny500> add me we'll talk
[05:49] <Ethos> ok secs
[05:49] <Jucato> hmm...
[05:49] <danny500> only Ethos,no one else.
[05:49] <Jucato> danny500:
[05:49] <aseigo> hahha
[05:49] <Jucato> danny500: you should have PMed him/her...
[05:50] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:50] <Ethos> just added you!
[05:50] <danny500> ok, I don't need a 20mpage contct list
[05:50] <danny500> lol
[05:50] <Ethos> lol
[05:51] <Ethos> uh-oh!!
[05:51] <sleeptyper> j/k
[05:53] <malki> sagt mal, muss man bei den aktuellen nvidia treibern irgendwas beachten? ich bekomme sie einfach nicht insterlliert ;/
[05:53] <Jucato> !de
[05:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:54] <malki> oops ^^ sorry
[05:54] <pradeepto> interesting info, thanks :)
[05:54] <Jucato> ???
[05:55] <Xcalibur> yo
[05:55] <pradeepto> Jucato: the Deutsch channels :)
[05:55] <Xcalibur> this is "tj_"on my windows laptop
[05:55] <Jucato> oh. ehehe
[05:55] <Jucato> hi
[05:55] <Xcalibur> lol
[05:55] <Xcalibur> I have like 4 PC
[05:56] <Xcalibur> I would like to know, which ones should I put kubuntu on, i like it really
[05:56] <Jucato> all of them
[05:56] <Jucato> :-D
[05:56] <Xcalibur> lol
[05:56] <Xcalibur> I can't
[05:56] <Xcalibur> my mom has ones, my other one, is already a dedicated server
[05:57] <Jucato> maybe just one. or two. choose the very best :-D
[05:57] <Xcalibur> I have 1 available PC
[05:57] <Xcalibur> it has a pentium III?
[05:57] <Xcalibur> will it work?
[05:57] <Jucato> I think so
[05:57] <Xcalibur> ok
[05:57] <Jucato> how much RAM?
[05:57] <Xcalibur> it only has a 20gb HDD, that still work
[05:58] <Xcalibur> it has 256MB of AM, i think
[05:58] <Xcalibur> RAM*
[05:58] <Xcalibur> I just recentliy had a memory upgrade, for RAM
[05:58] <Jucato> yep, I think Kubuntu will walk fine...
[05:58] <Xcalibur> ok
[05:58] <Xcalibur> b/c windows is shit for that PC(not that it isn't for others either :))
[05:59] <Jucato> (language pls..)
[05:59] <Xcalibur> o
[05:59] <Xcalibur> srry
[05:59] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:59] <ubuntu> im doing the trail version of linux kubuntu
[05:59] <Xcalibur> ?
[05:59] <ubuntu> so far i guess its good
[05:59] <Xcalibur> wats that
[05:59] <Jucato> ^_^ = :-)
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Jucato: KDE likes RAm though
[05:59] <trappist> ubuntu: trail version?
[05:59] <Jucato> DaSkreech: who doesn't? ehehe
[06:00] <Xcalibur> lol
[06:00] <DaSkreech> VectorLinux?
[06:00] <Jucato> ehehe
[06:00] <DaSkreech> We Spit upon your more than 64 MG of RAM
[06:00] <Xcalibur> my frien, he doesn't like his kubuntu, he oredered a winvista CD, so when it gets there, he's reformatting, and reinstalling
[06:01] <ubuntu> windows sucks dick
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[06:01] <Xcalibur> :-(
[06:01] <Jucato> !language
[06:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:01] <Xcalibur> lol
[06:01] <Near> re
[06:01] <danny500> shut up ubuntu
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Xcalibur: Have him install it on your PIII with 256 MG of RAM :)
[06:01] <Xcalibur> I will
[06:01] <Xcalibur> I luv linux now
[06:01] <Xcalibur> I tried it on my xbox, it's f'in awesome
[06:02] <Xcalibur> I had Gentoox tho
[06:02] <danny500> Linux is good but theres no games for it
[06:02] <DaSkreech> !games
[06:02] <Xcalibur> yeah there is
[06:02] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:02] <Jucato> uh oh....
[06:02] <DaSkreech> *cough*
[06:02] <danny500> like what
[06:02] <Xcalibur> toribsh.com
[06:02] <Xcalibur> toribash.com*
[06:02] <danny500> you can't play quake 4
[06:02] <Jucato> you have to qualify which games you refer to danny500
[06:02] <Xcalibur> fighting game for linux
[06:02] <DaSkreech> DannYes you canActually
[06:02] <Near> linux IS a game
[06:03] <Xcalibur> with wine?
[06:03] <Xcalibur> lol
[06:03] <danny500> the shitty flash games fir linux don't count
[06:03] <danny500> how does wine work anywas?
[06:03] <DaSkreech> !wine
[06:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:03] <Near> is there emulators for old games ?
[06:03] <Jucato> danny500: there are lots of games in Linux. maybe not the ones you like, but there are still games
[06:03] <Xcalibur> hey, can somone plz tell me, is it possible to run wine on gentoox,(on my xbox), then run windows effectively?
[06:03] <trappist> DaSkreech: quake4 plays fine here
[06:04] <DaSkreech> trappist: Don't tell me tell danny500
[06:04] <ubuntu> cant you install to operating systems on one computer if oyu have two hard drives?
[06:04] <Xcalibur> idk
[06:04] <trappist> DaSkreech: stupid tab complete :)
[06:04] <Xcalibur> i'm new :-)
[06:04] <danny500> I have wine installed. so all I have to do is install the windows games like normal?
[06:04] <Jucato> ubuntu: yes you can
[06:04] <trappist> danny500: quake4 plays fine here
[06:04] <Jucato> danny500: no
[06:04] <ubuntu> aii thanks
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Xcalibur: It was running Windows Before >_> Why go through all that hassle?
[06:04] <abattoir> ubuntu: you can install multiple operating systems even if you have only one hard drive.
[06:04] <trappist> danny500: regular wine won't play many games.  that's what cedega is for.
[06:04] <Xcalibur> the xbox i meant
[06:05] <abattoir> btw, hi Jucato, DaSkreech
[06:05] <danny500> then how do Iget the windows games on my system?
[06:05] <Xcalibur> i can't run windows natively
[06:05] <Jucato> abattoir: hi!!!
[06:05] <Xcalibur> on xbox
[06:05] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Yo yo
[06:05] <danny500> were do I get cedega
[06:05] <DaSkreech> !cedega
[06:05] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[06:05] <trappist> danny500: transgaming.com
[06:05] <Jucato> oh the krappiness....
[06:06] <Jucato> danny500: Cedega is not free.However you can download the Cedega CVS source code for free
[06:06] <Jucato> darn... Kompmgr seems to be buggier in Dapper than it was in Breezy....
[06:06] <shannon> I have a lan set up for samba, but I have to connect to the internet using dial up, but if I use dial up, I can't use the internet unless I take eth0 down first. anyone know how to fix this?
[06:06] <danny500> oh great. Linux is free but the only way to make it actually worth while will cost you a fortune. lol
[06:07] <Jucato> danny500: if games are your thing, probably. Linux is great in many other things
[06:07] <DaSkreech> danny500: You can compile it yourself, And if you really need games that much (or specific games) You can dual boot
[06:07] <Jucato> but the freedom of Linux isn't really about the cost but about the freedom
[06:07] <danny500> I can't aford windows though
[06:08] <Near> why kde hates smooth scrooling ?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Or Jump over to http://happypenguin.org and choose a game and start helping out :)
[06:08] <danny500> ?
[06:08] <Jucato> Near: it doesn't
[06:08] <danny500> help what?
[06:08] <shannon>  I have a lan set up for samba, but I have to connect to the internet using dial up, but if I use dial up, I can't use the internet unless I take eth0 down first. anyone know how to fix this?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> danny500: Building the game you want :)
[06:09] <danny500> o
[06:09] <danny500> cool
[06:09] <danny500> I'll do that
[06:09] <Jucato> DaSkreech: kool! I thought VectorLinux was some Xfce-based distro :-D
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Jucato: :-)
[06:09] <Jucato> wb aseigo
[06:09] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Hail
[06:10] <Jucato> this I've got to try out...
[06:10] <aseigo> yo...
[06:11] <JohnFlux> hey aseigo
[06:12] <JohnFlux> With RAID, can I set up a three disk raid, even if I have only 2 disks at the moment :-)
[06:12] <JohnFlux> RAID 5
[06:12] <JohnFlux> basically treat the 3rd disk as broken for now
[06:12] <Jucato> grr... gotta restart X...
[06:12] <Jucato> kompmgr...
[06:12] <Near> jucato: i can't find the option
[06:12] <mioemi> hello people
[06:12] <v3ctor> JohnFlux: don't hink so
[06:12] <v3ctor> think* even
[06:12] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good morning
[06:13] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Have you been able to jot down any ideas yet per our discussion last week ?
[06:13] <mioemi> hawkind, how U doing?
[06:13] <Xcalibur> back
[06:14] <Xcalibur> i dont thing kubuntu has a wireless connection manager for my laptop, does it?
[06:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Xcalibur, yea it does
[06:15] <Admiral_Chicago> !wireless
[06:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:15] <Xcalibur> omg
[06:15] <Near> hello mioemi
[06:15] <Xcalibur> awesome, how I find out my much RAM my laptop has, i can't find any sticker?
[06:15] <nagyv> I just had some problems with my internet connection, so it came to me the idea to connect to the net using my mobile phone. Is there a guide somewhere? I have GPRS and USB cables. (Actually I have a
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :-)
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Xcalibur: Try free
[06:16] <Xcalibur> im on windows by the way
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Oh :-P
[06:16] <Xcalibur> lol
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Umm Win+Break
[06:16] <Hawkwind> mioemi: Trying to recover from being sick this past week or so.  Feeling a lot better now just not back to 100%
[06:16] <davidjuff> hi
[06:16] <Xcalibur> omg, are you good at windws, too?
[06:17] <davidjuff> is there anywhere a amarok 1.4.2 .deb?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> No I'm going through therapy for it
[06:17] <Xcalibur> it has 256MB of RAM
[06:17] <Xcalibur> lol
[06:17] <DaSkreech> I did apt-get install vrms
[06:17] <DaSkreech> !amarok
[06:17] <Hawkwind> davidjuff: deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper amarok
[06:17] <Xcalibur> so, I'm gonna go get my disk, and install!!!
[06:17] <Hawkwind> davidjuff: You can add that to your sources.list
[06:17] <davidjuff> thank you very much!
[06:17] <DaSkreech> damn lazy ubotu
[06:17] <davidjuff> i know.. thx
[06:18] <Xcalibur> lol
[06:18] <rumix> don't forget 'wget http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/887D9FD2.gpg'
[06:18] <rumix> and 'sudo apt-key add 887D9FD2.gpg'
[06:18] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[06:19] <Hawkwind> davidjuff: wget http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/887D9FD2.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[06:19] <Hawkwind> davidjuff: Perform that command to get the key added
[06:20] <davidjuff> thx!
[06:20] <Hawkwind> No problem
[06:21] <nagyv> how can I modify the list of applications that are shown when I select a link? (like: open in Opera, Konqueror, Firefox, Mozilla, etc)
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Near: http://bash.org/?4278
[06:22] <DaSkreech> nagyv: I really don't know what do you want it to say?
[06:22] <Sanne> nagyv: in konqueror, right click on the file, properties, click on the icon neside "Type".
[06:22] <Sanne> beside even
[06:23] <Sanne> nagyv: oh, you mean a link... sorry, I didn't read properly
[06:24] <nagyv> Sanne: and what can I do with weblinks? I thought that this feature is linked to klipper
[06:24] <mioemi> hi
[06:25] <Sanne> nagyv: I don't know about weblinks, sorry. I'm used to surf with firefox, I'm using that instead on konqueror.
[06:26] <nagyv> Sanne: me to :) you don't get a small window in your right corner if you select a link in some other application?
[06:26] <Sanne> nagyv: in what application, for example? What should I test?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> mioemi: Hi
[06:27] <DaSkreech> nagyv: Ohhh that
[06:27] <Ethos> i've got cedega here but I'm having problems installing it
[06:27] <nagyv> Sanne: any :) I have found that it is related to the "Right Click on Klipper" and check Enable Actions. As I see I can manage the actions by configuring Klipper.
[06:27] <Ethos> anyone anygood at that? :P
[06:28] <Sanne> nagyv: I turned off klipper... heh
[06:28] <nagyv> Sanne: :/
[06:29] <Sanne> nagyv: I will start klipper and test
[06:30] <Sanne> nagyv: hmm, looks interesting, but I think you already know much more about that than me. So thanks for pointing me to klipper, it looks quite useful after all :)
[06:31] <nagyv> Sanne: I agree, just play with it! :)
[06:31] <Sanne> nagyv: :)
[06:32] <bkudria> i'm trying to compile basket 0.6.0, but it require libfam.la, and libfam0 wants to deinstall a whole bunch of my kde apps...what should i do?
[06:34] <trappist> bkudria: libfam-dev gives you libfam.la
[06:35] <Agios> I would probably just forget compiling basket 0.6.0 myself.
[06:35] <trappist> bkudria: so does libgamin-dev, which is probably what you want
[06:35] <alexx860> hi!
[06:35] <trappist> bkudria: since kubuntu apps use gamin rather than fam
[06:36] <nagyv> how could I use my mobile phone as a modem for my laptop to connect to the net?
[06:36] <Sanne> bkudria: strange, I confirm that libfam0 wants to remove lots of packages. Strange, though, because as dependencies only 3 packages are listed. I wonder which of those is responsible for that.
[06:37] <inteliwasp> how can i find out what certin programs i run do what to hardware?
[06:38] <bkudria> trappist: ok, thanks!
[06:38] <bkudria> Sanne: yes, it is strange
[06:39] <Sanne> bkudria: weird and weirder, because I have everyone of those 3 dependencies. This looks unhealthy.
[06:39] <bkudria> Sanne: perhaps somebody should file a bug :)
[06:39] <inteliwasp> have i made too vague of a question?
[06:40] <Sanne> bkudria: that's also what I may come to conclude. Maybe there's something about libfam0 in launchpad?
[06:40] <bkudria> Sanne: well, libgamin0 Replaces libfam0
[06:40] <trappist> Sanne: gamin is a replacement for fam
[06:40] <bkudria> so that would do it
[06:40] <trappist> yeah
[06:40] <trappist> they fulfill the same requirement
[06:41] <trappist> apt-cache show libgamin0 | grep ^Provides
[06:41] <Sanne> bkudria, trappist: but still it's not clear why libfam0 wants to remove all that stuff, when those 3 dependencies are met. There's no conflicts entry either.
[06:42] <inteliwasp> is anyone able to answer my question?
[06:42] <trappist> Sanne: true, I don't see any conflicts.  might be worth a bug report.
[06:45] <bkudria> inteliwasp: what *is* your question?
[06:45] <inteliwasp> how can i find out what certin programs i run do to hardware?
[06:45] <trappist> inteliwasp: that *is* a little vague
[06:46] <Sanne> inteliwasp: I don't understand your question ;)
[06:46] <inteliwasp> bkudria:  more specificly, what commands to put into a script to run for my wireless connecion
[06:46] <bkudria> i'm confused too
[06:46] <bkudria> what are you trying to do?
[06:47] <bkudria> a command to bring up your wireless connection?
[06:47] <bkudria> i have no clue :)
[06:47] <inteliwasp> b/c i already need to run a "ifconfig up" command and for some odd reason i need to run wireless assistance to accociate even tho that fails
[06:47] <inteliwasp> *assistant
[06:47] <pichi> hi
[06:49] <inteliwasp> .... crap.... i need to go off to class, and yess it's about windoze...
[06:49] <rams> hi jemand da ? ich habe ein Problem !
[06:49] <trappist> !de
[06:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:50] <rams> thx !
[06:50] <Sanne> bkudria, trappist: it seems to be known that installing libfam0 "wants to remove half the world": https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/fam/+bug/5144
[06:51] <ryanakca> how do you record your desktop? like into a movie
[06:51] <tomas_> hello i ve got a problem with my via soundcard
[06:52] <tomas_> i  ve loaded the via82xx module
[06:52] <tomas_> and in alsamixer is everything unmuted
[06:52] <trappist> Sanne: yeah, looks like it got rejected
[06:52] <Sanne> trappist: yeah, seems so.
[06:53] <trappist> Sanne: I just reopened it
[06:53] <Sanne> trappist: :)
[06:55] <ryanakca> tomas_: are you in the "audio" group?
[06:56] <osh_> What program do I need to listen to "pod radio"?
[06:56] <otaku-san> I'm trying to login to CVS and am doing it thru anonymous access.  So I just click enter.  Well I wait forever and then it comes up with connection timed out...is it because of the anonymous login?
[06:56] <trappist> osh_: amarok should do it
[06:56] <osh_> trappist: I've got an url to an xml file. Where do I paste it?
[06:56] <trappist> otaku-san: sometimes that just happens, and will work if you try again
[06:57] <trappist> osh_: an xml file?
[06:57] <trappist> what extension does it have?
[06:57] <ryanakca> tomas_: go "Alt-F2", and run the command "kdesu userconfig". Select your username, modify, and add "audio" to the list of groups you are part of
[06:57] <lupine_85> podcast. Try Kaffeine?
[06:57] <osh_> trappist: http://www.sr.se/Podradio/xml/p3_lantz.xml
[06:57] <lupine_85> It has a place for you to paste URLs so might work
[06:57] <otaku-san> trappist: I've tried twice...yeah I have heard CVS is a bit of a pain to login...I'll try later.
[06:58] <trappist> osh_: sorry, I can't read that page
[06:58] <osh_> trappist: I think it's a list of podcasts. I don't know what to do with it though.
[06:59] <tomas_> I'm allready in this group
, I`m allready in this group
[07:00] <Sanne> tomas_: you might already have seen those pages, but in case you didn't, might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide
[07:01] <tayirvadai_vikra> i am not able to connect my mobile with my laptop via infrared
[07:01] <tayirvadai_vikra> can anyone help me
[07:02] <raptros-v76> hmm
[07:02] <raptros-v76> !infrared
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infrared - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <raptros-v76> ...
[07:02] <utab> how can I listen online radio stations broadcasting through windows media player
[07:02] <osh_> trappist: amarok sort of worked. it won't play mp3s but I know what that's about. I found where to add the pod-stream. thanks for the hint.
[07:02] <trappist> cool
[07:03] <abattoir> Hawkwind: hi :)
[07:03] <otaku-san> odd n00b question.  When I go to compile I save the tar to my desktop and have ark unpack there to...but after compiling is finished can I just delete the tar and folder?
[07:03] <Jucato> Hawkwind?? where?!?!
[07:03] <otaku-san> Jucato: I was wondering the same thing
[07:03] <raptros-v76> otaku-san: sure
[07:03] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Nowhere, he's gone :P
[07:04] <Jucato> otaku-san: if you used "make install", I would suggest no.
[07:04] <abattoir> Jucato: he is afk? i saw he message only now
[07:04] <Jucato> lol
[07:04] <abattoir> heh
[07:04] <Jucato> hehe
[07:04] <raptros-v76> otaku-san: or not
[07:04] <Jucato> otaku-san: I wouldn't delete it, so I could "make uninstall" later
[07:04] <raptros-v76> isnt there a tracking system for source stuff?
[07:05] <raptros-v76> theres a thing in the repos for that isnt there?
[07:05] <abattoir> tayirvadai_vikra: laptop... right? which make/model?
[07:05] <otaku-san> Jucato: ahhhhh I see where your getting at!  Ok well then if I make a file in my $home directory it shouldn't mess it up....right?
[07:05] <Jucato> raptros-v76: I don't think so. but it seems that using checkinstall instead of make install solves that
[07:05] <tayirvadai_vikra> hp compaq nc6230
[07:06] <raptros-v76> Jucato: yeah, i think thats what i was thinking of
[07:06] <Jucato> otaku-san: you could probably try to use checkinstall. It will make a .deb for you.
[07:08] <kubuntu_tester> hello folks
[07:09] <raptros-v76> hi
[07:09] <kubuntu_tester> I just compiled my new kernel
[07:09] <Jucato> info for checkinstall: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[07:09] <kubuntu_tester> I receive the message (more than one time): dm-linear
[07:09] <kubuntu_tester> [17179592.172000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[07:09] <kubuntu_tester> [17179592.172000]  device-mapper: error adding target to table
[07:09] <otaku-san> thanks Jucato
[07:10] <kubuntu_tester> the system seems to work properly
[07:10] <Healot> kubuntu_tester: don't worry about that
[07:10] <kubuntu_tester> what's wrong?
[07:10] <kubuntu_tester> I googled but did not find a real answer
[07:11] <kubuntu_tester> Healot: what's the problem?
[07:11] <Healot> because nothing went wrong... it's part of the new experimental feature of 2.6 kernel line...
[07:11] <Xcalibur> well
[07:11] <Xcalibur> I used the disk
[07:11] <kubuntu_tester> oh okay
[07:11] <kubuntu_tester> how can I disable this warning?
[07:11] <Xcalibur> to see how it would run on the laptop
[07:11] <Xcalibur> and
[07:12] <Xcalibur> I wasn't able to use the wireless manager
[07:12] <Healot> you dont have to, really, kubuntu_tester
[07:12] <utab> trappist, would you mind trying mplayer http://www.muzik1.com
[07:12] <nagyv> how could I use my mobile phone as a modem for my laptop to connect to the net?
[07:12] <jeroenvrp> does anyone know if there are xine 1.1.2 packages available for dapper?
[07:12] <otaku-san> Jucato: so just replace make install with checkinstall?  That's easy enough
[07:12] <kubuntu_tester> Healot: what feature? tell me more about that, please
[07:12] <kubuntu_tester> :D
[07:13] <shannon> does anyone know how to make dail-up (ppp0) for internet work with a local network (eth0) for samba at the same time?
[07:13] <Xcalibur> jucato: it said I'd didn't have the permissions to use the wireless thing correctly
[07:13] <Healot> i'm not a kernel developer, it's something about device mapper feature
[07:13] <Xcalibur> maybe b/c it wasn't installed?
[07:13] <otaku-san> Jucato: could I rerun checkinstall on the file I just configure...I did make install...would it mess up with checkinstall?
[07:14] <tayirvadai_vikra> was anyone able to configure their infrared?
[07:14] <Xcalibur> i have 1, what for th?
[07:14] <Xcalibur> tho8
[07:14] <Xcalibur> tho*
[07:14] <Xcalibur> !wireless
[07:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:16] <lontra> i am running kde on debian etch and i am curious if konqueror loads as fast on dapper as it does on etch?  it takes me about 4 seconds for konqueror versuses 12 for firefox
[07:19] <xtitus> lontra: i can start konqui in 1.5 to 2 seconds with dapper
[07:19] <xtitus> but it's preloading automatically before
[07:19] <xtitus> that's why it's so fast
[07:19] <lontra> yeah
[07:19] <otaku-san> lontra: konq on mine loads in about 6 secs...and firefox 10...but I use ff so it has more stuff on it....and my CPUs are kinda old so it's a bit slow
[07:20] <xtitus> firefox: 7 sec.
[07:22] <otaku-san> heheh my computer is not a good candidate for linux speed! ;)
[07:22] <lontra> i figured that dapper would probably be faster or at least the same speed as debian etch
[07:23] <Ethos> guys my ubuntu install is telling me my software index is broken
[07:23] <Ethos> how can i fix it ;()
[07:23] <Ethos> lol
[07:23] <gnomefreak> lontra: you really cant tell by others trying it (depends too much on whats installed/running and the hardware of the pc being used
[07:24] <gnomefreak> Ethos: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:24] <lontra> yeah i know...i just wanted to see if everyone was still noticing a preformance difference between konqueror and ff
[07:24] <lontra> which is what i hoped to see
[07:24] <gnomefreak> Ethos: if that doesnt work sudo apt-get update
[07:24] <Ethos> i keep getting this with those 2 commands mate
[07:24] <Ethos> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:24] <Ethos> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:25] <Hawkwind> Do you have Adept open ?
[07:25] <gnomefreak> Ethos: what do you have open?
[07:25] <gnomefreak> adept and updates in terminal?
[07:25] <gianluca> hi
[07:25] <gianluca> my name is luca
[07:25] <Ethos> erm, firefox/azureus/konversation and the terminal window
[07:25] <gianluca> and i live in italy
[07:25] <Hawkwind> Ethos: If Adept is open then you need to close it so you can use apt-get from the terminal
[07:25] <gnomefreak> gianluca: try #ubuntu-it
[07:25] <gnomefreak> oops
[07:25] <Ethos> sorry to sound like a newb, but I have no idea if Adept is open or what it is
[07:25] <Ethos> lol
[07:26] <gianluca> tks
[07:26] <gnomefreak> #kubuntu-it
[07:26] <gnomefreak> Ethos: what is running in terminal window?
[07:26] <Hawkwind> Ethos: Adept is the graphical package manager
[07:26] <Ethos> ah ok, thankyou
[07:26] <Ethos> erm, nothing just that afaik gnomefreak
[07:26] <Ethos> i opened the terminal window and typed those commands
[07:26] <gnomefreak> Ethos: close adept and run those commands again
[07:28] <Ethos> ok :)
[07:28] <pekka_> anyone can help with adept-notifier/update?
[07:28] <Ethos> ok that worked
[07:28] <Ethos> :)
[07:28] <Ethos> wicked
[07:30] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: is your adept updateing sources.list when opened?
[07:30] <soulrider> hey everyone
[07:31] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: I don't use Adept at all or any GUI package manager.  I rely solely on the CLI for that
[07:31] <gnomefreak> good
[07:31] <pekka_> recently when i have tried to open adept, it says "database locked" and suggests that another application is running, using the adept database... and i assure you that this is the first thing i try to do when i log in into kubuntu. so i assume there can't be any other application running that database....
[07:31] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: i have a feeling i see a bug coming on from users with adept though :(
[07:31] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Not to bash things of any distro, but I don't trust a lot of GUI tools like package managers, disk partitioners :P
[07:32] <soulrider> pekka, try sudo killall adept
[07:32] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Uh oh, that's not good.  Is Adept not updating somehow ?
[07:32] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: agree 100% :) only gui i use is FF and thunderbird for most part
[07:32] <pekka_> thanks soulrider, i'll try that right away
[07:32] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: i dont use it but thats 2 people in 2 days
[07:32] <soulrider> after that try running adept again, cross your fingers :)
[07:33] <bubu1uk> where in ubuntu/kubuntu is conf file for changin desktop manager? gdm/kdm
[07:33] <DHGE> pekka_: look at your kicker bar - there is adept lurking in the bg ...
[07:33] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: if i remember whne i get home from meeting ill look at it and see whats up
[07:34] <gnomefreak> bbl meeting time
[07:34] <pekka_> the adept-notifier is in the kicker bar allright.... as it should be?
[07:34] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Kewl.  I'll keep my eyes for more reports on it too
[07:34] <gnomefreak> ty
[07:34] <soulrider> pekka
[07:34] <soulrider> thats whats probabkly is locking the DB
[07:34] <soulrider> click ont he adept notif and then update
[07:34] <soulrider> or just close it
[07:35] <soulrider> and you will be able to run adept allright
[07:35] <pekka_> ehh.... i should have been more precice.... it is the adept notifier that i try to lauch, because it says now "6 updatable packages"
[07:36] <soulrider> err
[07:36] <soulrider> what is it that youre trying to do ?
[07:36] <Near> howto install azureus in kunbuntu ?
[07:36] <pekka_> and i think it is the only apt-get, adept... or any package management app that is run right after booting up
[07:36] <Hawkwind> !azureus
[07:36] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[07:36] <soulrider> sudo apt-get install azureus
[07:36] <Hawkwind> pekka_: Why not just do this:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:36] <Near> thx
[07:36] <DHGE> Near: no luck with ktorrent?
[07:37] <Hawkwind> pekka_: Do that from a terminal and it will update everything that is needed.  Much easier than relying on a GUI package manager that doesn't do everything you want it to do
[07:39] <Near> DHGE: its slow and without many options
[07:39] <Near> but i tried first
[07:40] <siddharth> hi
[07:40] <DHGE> Near: OIC - it saturates my broadband ...  and I found azureus had to many options ... interesting
[07:40] <pekka_> thanks Hawkwind! not it seems to at least do fetch something. yet some problems, i had to "sudo dpkg --configure -a" because of "dpkg was interrupted"
[07:40] <|brad|> any word on when 2.6.17 will be available for dapper?
[07:40] <Hawkwind> Linux Britannia 2.6.17.11 #1 SMP Thu Aug 24 21:42:52 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:40] <Hawkwind> Ahhhh, tis on Dapper too :P
[07:40] <pekka_> well... at least something is happening ... ;-) thanks again guys. ill ask again if needed
[07:41] <|brad|> Hawkwind: that sexy... build the package yourself tho?
[07:41] <Hawkwind> |brad|: Yep.  With a very easy how-to on my forums :)
[07:41] <Hawkwind> Takes less than an hour
[07:41] <DHGE> |brad|: I doubt there will be 2.6.17 for dapper - go kernel.org
[07:41] <pekka_> Hawkwind... you happend to know if this fixes the problem with qui? i mean with adept-notifier?
[07:42] <|brad|> DHGE: yea i see that edgy is using it
[07:42] <Hawkwind> pekka_: I would think so.  However, I don't touch Adept at all so I know nothing about it to be honest
[07:42] <|brad|> when is that due out... sorry for the newb questions.
[07:42] <ravenous> !schedule
[07:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:43] <DHGE> |brad|: I built kernels when I started with linux - just not amymore ;-)
[07:43] <|brad|> Hawkwind: link to your forum please : )
[07:43] <Hawkwind> |brad|: http://LinuxForDummies.org/
[07:43] <Hawkwind> |brad|: Look in the Kubuntu How-to's section
[07:43] <Near> azureus don't start after install
[07:43] <RMorris85> !azureus
[07:43] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[07:43] <Near> strange
[07:44] <ravenous> do you have java installed?
[07:44] <RMorris85> !java
[07:44] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:44] <|brad|> DHGE: id be fine if this was on my system.... but im admining a remote system so if it dies its dead till i can go fix it : /
[07:44] <DHGE> Near: try from the command line - look at the logs - read the howto
[07:44] <pekka_> Hawkwind: but the qui is so much easier :-) of course in the late days of dos 3.3 i used to love the command line. but those days are looong gone :-) thanks for your help
[07:45] <Near> i tried from command line and i'm running irate so i have java right ?
[07:45] <Hawkwind> pekka_: Everyone has their own personal opinion.  I love the GUI...just not on system tools and package managers
[07:46] <ravenous> ill take synaptic over adept in gui even personally
[07:46] <RMorris85> !synaptic
[07:46] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:46] <DHGE> Near: NO error msg???
[07:46] <sleeptyper> Azureus has one BIG problem - huge resource use
[07:46] <raptros-v76> !adept
[07:46] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:46] <Near> nothing, are you amazed ? ;)
[07:46] <DHGE> yes
[07:47] <Near> how can i kill the process ?
[07:47] <DHGE> but I had problems with azureus: slow and resource hog - and when I tried it java install was a pain in the rear
[07:48] <ravenous> ps aux, find the pid, 'kill pid'
[07:48] <DHGE> Near: maybe azureus demans Sun's java - like JBidwatcher which I like
[07:49] <Near> let's try
[07:49] <DHGE> update-alternatives --display java
[07:51] <pekka_> thanks guys, the apt-get update && upgrade is now finished. i'll reboot and check again if the problem is fixed
[07:51] <Hawkwind> Reboot ???
[07:51] <Hawkwind> You running Windows and you didn't tell us ?
[07:51] <raptros-v76> lol
[07:52] <pointwood> hehe
[07:52] <Near> update-alternatives --display java
[07:53] <Near> Current `best' version is /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java.
[07:53] <pointwood> didn't know apt-get was available for windows :p
[07:53] <DHGE> Near: DARK where you look ;-)
[07:53] <DHGE> see the Sun ...
[07:54] <mx> !paste
[07:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:54] <DHGE> you have Ubuntu's default
[07:56] <DHGE> howto (you read it?) point two ...
[07:56] <Near> the link from wiki is dead, i like it
[07:56] <DHGE> "2. Install Azureus and Sun Java by installing the following packages:" how difficult is that?
[07:58] <soulrider> does anyone know if ark keeps some sort of cache when unraring? i seem to only have 6.2 gb free
[07:58] <soulrider> which is insane
[07:58] <DHGE> as root: vim  /etc/apt/sources.list                 enable the *verses
[07:59] <DHGE> soulrider: top or better htop and look for yourself - I think it uses lots of tmp-space
[08:00] <DHGE> insanely slow IMO
[08:00] <soulrider> DHGE: i meant ahrd drive space, not RAM
[08:00] <soulrider> and  i find ark quite fast
[08:01] <DHGE> OIC - sorry
[08:01] <soulrider> at least compared to winrar
[08:01] <DHGE> I unrar on the console
[08:01] <soulrider> oh
[08:01] <Near> DHGE: it's done
[08:01] <DHGE> :-)
[08:02] <soulrider> ahh i know why so much space is being sued
[08:02] <soulrider> i forgot that i istalled vmware
[08:02] <soulrider> which take slike 8 gb :P
[08:04] <Near> There are 4 alternatives which provide `java'
[08:05] <Near>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[08:05] <Near> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[08:05] <Near>       3        /usr/bin/cacao
[08:05] <Near>       4        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[08:05] <dusty__> How can i configure remote desktop on one of my kubuntu machines?
[08:05] <dusty__> so I can access it from my laptop ?
[08:06] <fdoving> Near: please don't paste into the chanenl, use a pastebin (for more information say '!pastebin' in the channel)
[08:06] <Near> !pastebin
[08:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:06] <DHGE> !azuereus
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azuereus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <fdoving> !azureus
[08:06] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[08:06] <DHGE> !azureus
[08:06] <DHGE> Near: READ it
[08:07] <Near> DHGE: but i did it
[08:07] <DHGE> 3. Configure alternatives to use Sun's java
[08:07] <DHGE> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:08] <Near> wich one i select ?
[08:08] <DHGE> see the Sun!  Number 4 for you ...
[08:10] <Near> same result.. wtf
[08:10] <DHGE> as root???
[08:10] <Near> of course
[08:10] <emi> hello people
[08:11] <Near> 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and then 4
[08:11] <emi> can anybody  tell me any news?
[08:11] <Near> hi
[08:11] <DHGE> !Krfb
[08:11] <emi> hi near
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Krfb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <Near> it rains in france
[08:12] <emi> so what about it near?
[08:15] <Near> emi: i hate azureus
[08:16] <emi> why near?
[08:16] <emi> why do U hate azureus?
[08:17] <Near> emi: it don't want to work
[08:26] <Near> thx DHGE
[08:27] <soulrider> Near: i dont quite like azureus much either
[08:27] <soulrider> but its kind of the best there is for linux :(
[08:27] <Near> :)
[08:27] <soulrider> in fact, im using az right now
[08:27] <soulrider> bu i prefer uTorrent for windows
[08:27] <Near> you must be god
[08:28] <soulrider> :/
[08:29] <Near> any idea ?
[08:30] <soulrider> youre trying to run azureus on linux?
[08:30] <TheGateKeeper> !sound > TheGateKeeper
[08:33] <sorush20> hi guys my sound system is not being detected by auto detect..
[08:33] <sorush20> can I remove oss from my kubuntu system safely?
[08:34] <sorush20> on clicking apply after selecting auto detect in Sound Sytem Configuration. the sound system restart progress dialogue keeps looping
[08:34] <Near> yes i am
[08:35] <Near> i'm also trying to play deus ex
[08:35] <Near> i must be sick
[08:35] <mx> how do i make mount mount everything in fstab?
[08:36] <soulrider> you ahve to add the lcoation of the partition
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: as a ubuntu dev can you please tell me as alsaconf is not available to (k)ubuntu users, what are they supposed to use instead if they encounter a problem? and can it be installed?
[08:36] <soulrider> where you wanna mount it
[08:36] <soulrider> and set permissions
[08:36] <mx> ?
[08:36] <mx> and..?
[08:36] <Hawkwind> sudo mount -a  ?
[08:36] <mx> thanks
[08:36] <soulrider> everything in fstab
[08:36] <mx> yay
[08:36] <soulrider> i guess that works too lol
[08:37] <toni__> hi
[08:38] <toni__> can you see me?
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> toni__, no
[08:38] <soulrider> lol Admiral_Chicago
[08:38] <toni__> hi
[08:39] <toni__> see what i write..
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, how does the programming go?
[08:39] <soulrider> yes, we do
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> toni__, NO! we can't see you
[08:39] <toni__> my english is very bed
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> log out and back in
[08:39] <soulrider> havnt done any lol
[08:39] <soulrider> i started college agin
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> me too
[08:39] <crimsun> TheGateKeeper: if it doesn't work out of the box, it's a bug. alsaconf(1) should not be necessary to get audible sound OOtB.
[08:39] <toni__> ok boys
[08:40] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago: i gto programming tomorrow
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> speaking of sound, i couldn't get any osund
[08:40] <soulrider> ill see if i bug my teacher to explain how to solve the maze thingy
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> until i realized i didn't install lib-xine
[08:40] <crimsun> TheGateKeeper: in other words, file a bug against linux-source-2.6.x (where 'x' is 15 or 17 depending on which release you use)
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> what language
[08:41] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago: me ?
[08:41] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: ok thanx
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[08:50] <Near> bye all & thx
[08:51] <D4rkly> anyone know where to find my power management settings in KDE. when i use Xgl+compiz my screen goes black after 10mins and my screensaver is turned off in the settings ???
[08:51] <Xtreem> back agin
[08:51] <Xtreem> this is Xcalibur on my other PC
[08:51] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: Look in systemsettings or kcontrol
[08:52] <Xtreem> !seen Xcalibur
[08:52] <ubotu> Xcalibur is on IRC right now!
[08:52] <Xtreem> ok
[08:52] <Xtreem> I have a problem
[08:52] <D4rkly> in kcontrol under power it says laptop batery but i have a desktop ?
[08:53] <Kr4t05> D4rkly: it always does that.
[08:53] <Xtreem> i have another PC to put a form of ubuntu on, it has a Pentium II MMX processor, idk how much ram(no OS yet)
[08:53] <Xtreem> and a like 3.7gb HDD
[08:53] <Xtreem> what Ubuntu should I use
[08:53] <Xtreem> ?
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Xtreem, tlook at Vector Linux
[08:54] <D4rkly> ok
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> or Ubuntu Lite
[08:54] <Xtreem> somone told me Ubuntu lite, or Xubuntu
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Ubuntu takes up ~6Gb
[08:54] <octan> whats Xubuntu?
[08:54] <Xtreem> o
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> XUbuntu is just Ubuntu with XFC i believe
[08:54] <octan> oh
[08:54] <Xtreem> ok
[08:55] <Xtreem> it takes up 6gb?
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> wahtevr the destktop enviroment is called
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> a little around that
[08:55] <Xtreem> xfce actually
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> i need Vector Linux for a 8Gb HDD
[08:55] <D4rkly> anyone know how to stop the screen from going black after 10mins of inactiveness in xgl+compiz (this doesnt happen under standard KDE) ??? plz help very annoying when trying to watch a movie lol
[08:55] <Xtreem> where can I see some screen shots of Vector?
[08:56] <Xtreem> anyone?
[08:57] <Hawkwind> Xtreem: distrowatch.com
[08:57] <Xtreem> ok
[08:57] <Hawkwind> Xtreem: Or go to their home page
[08:57] <Xtreem> thanx
[08:57] <sleeptyper> odd... my kubuntu with gnome and kde hogs ~20G
[08:58] <magical_trevsky> Xtreem, http://shots.osdir.com/index.php?distro=7
[08:58] <Xtreem> ok
[08:58] <Xtreem> it looks kinda like kubuntu
[08:58] <octan> mine gnome & kde ++ alot of other crap takes 9.7 Gb
[08:58] <Xtreem> will it work with my spec?
[08:58] <octan> /dev/hda1              49G  9.7G   36G  22% /
[08:59] <octan> lol
[08:59] <Xtreem> will vector work with a pentium II MMX
[08:59] <Xtreem> and 3.7gb
[08:59] <Hawkwind> Xtreem: Visit their home page, I'm sure it will say there
[08:59] <Xtreem> ok
[08:59] <Hawkwind> Xtreem: Or join their IRC channel since it's not Kubuntu related
[09:00] <octan> haha my debian sarge server with gnome is 2.9 Gb :P
[09:02] <Xtreem> ok
[09:02] <Xtreem> well, it's DL'ing
[09:02] <Xtreem> now
[09:03] <octan> vector?
[09:03] <Xtreem> I have yet another PC, Intel Pentium III, 256MB RAM, and a 20gb HDD, this is ok for kubuntu right?
[09:03] <octan> ya man
[09:03] <Xtreem> ok
[09:03] <Xtreem> I luv this OS
[09:03] <octan> me too :P
[09:04] <Xtreem> I fix PC's, and I'm usually recommending WinXP to most customers
[09:04] <octan> i do not hate m$. i just dislike it :P
[09:04] <sleeptyper> ...
[09:05] <sleeptyper> i hate M$ for being so f*n greedy
[09:05] <Xtreem> but for the ppl that come here from now on, the smart ones, I'm going to ask them if they would to try linux for 30 days, if they don't like, they can return, and I will install windows
[09:05] <sleeptyper> $200 for buggy OS is too much
[09:05] <Xtreem> i know
[09:06] <octan> Xtreem, 30 days only?
[09:06] <Xtreem> I wished windows was opensource, there would be some good distros then, lol
[09:06] <gkey> quick question - anyone experienced with getting sound to work?
[09:06] <Xtreem> maybe 60 days, depending on there IQ, lol
[09:06] <octan> gkey, whats the problem? hw or software issue=
[09:06] <octan> ?
[09:06] <gkey> seems sw issue
[09:06] <sleeptyper> many distros has it's good and bad points...
[09:06] <gkey> it was working earlier today
[09:06] <slow-motion> halo
[09:07] <slow-motion> +l
[09:07] <Xtreem> lol
[09:07] <octan> Xtreem, just preinstall linux.. and leave it as that.. do not mention m$
[09:07] <Xtreem> lol
[09:07] <octan> :P
[09:07] <Xtreem> some ppl might now understand how to use the instals tho
[09:07] <octan> lol
[09:07] <magical_trevsky> gkey, when my sound died, a quick "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset" fixed it
[09:08] <octan> gkey, driver issue ?
[09:08] <Xtreem> eats*
[09:08] <sleeptyper> lol
[09:09] <Xtreem> I got hypnotized last week
[09:09] <sleeptyper> hmm
[09:09] <Xtreem> i had 2% of my brain unlocked
[09:09] <Xtreem> now
[09:09] <sleeptyper> what command makes reverse dns ?
[09:09] <gkey> octan - magical_trevsky - thanks the alsa tip did it
[09:10] <Xtreem> I have an IQ of something like 120
[09:10] <Xtreem> lol
[09:10] <Xtreem> back on topic
[09:10] <magical_trevsky> gkey, np :)
[09:10] <octan> :)
[09:10] <Xtreem> anyone know what crossover pro is?
[09:10] <gkey> :)
[09:11] <octan> Xtreem 120 only? :P
[09:11] <Xtreem> idk
[09:11] <Xtreem> someone told me it was higher than usual
[09:11] <Xtreem> after the hypnotization
[09:11] <octan> oh right :P
[09:11] <Xtreem> whats the average, he said it went up 20
[09:11] <Xtreem> i watched this laser
[09:11] <Xtreem> it was cool
[09:12] <Xtreem> the guy that did it, he can lift a cheerio
[09:13] <Xtreem> with his mind :o
[09:13] <octan> well time for me to stick my nose in my c++ book again.
[09:13] <Xtreem> i know c++
[09:13] <Xtreem> very well actually
[09:13] <octan> good for you :) make any usefull apps?
[09:14] <Xtreem> yes
[09:14] <octan> like?
[09:14] <rotem> hi
[09:14] <Xtreem> I make map resigners for halo 2, map editors(the lead programmer for entity)
[09:15] <Xtreem> and
[09:15] <Xtreem> AIO's
[09:15] <Xtreem> and
[09:15] <octan> nice
[09:15] <Xtreem> I made a image converter
[09:15] <Mulder> Hello all
[09:16] <Xtreem> hi
[09:16] <Mulder> New to Linux...and on and off with Kubuntu. Had and still have some issues and it is doing my head on and off
[09:17] <Xtreem> whats the prob
[09:17] <Mulder> Ok I am running Kubuntu 6.06.1 live cd for the time being. Had it installed once before
[09:17] <Xtreem> ok
[09:17] <Xtreem> and?
[09:19] <Mulder> I want to have my duo core acer recognized, right now only one cpu recognized...for this I need to be able to download packages and stuff, can't make it work eiher, as well as having a decent resolution of 1280x800 for the lappy using an atix1400
[09:19] <Xtreem> I wanted that laptop
[09:19] <Xtreem> lol
[09:19] <Mulder> acer 5672
[09:19] <Mulder> :-)
[09:20] <Xtreem> do they have the drivers for it, in the newest release
[09:20] <Mulder> and I really want to use Kubuntu...I have been dying to
[09:20] <octan> i got a acer 20" widescreen :P running at 1600x1200 :P
[09:20] <Mulder> lucky you octan
[09:20] <rdale> I've just upgraded to kde 3.5.4 with dapper and my fonts look a complete mess - anyone know how to fix them?
[09:20] <Mulder> I am new to Linux and really want to start the right way...guess a birth is always painful
[09:20] <octan> i luv my screen
[09:20] <Mulder> not sure Xtreem
[09:21] <Xtreem> well, I'll look into it, i have to goto the store
[09:21] <Mulder> ah...
[09:21] <Xtreem> brb
[09:21] <Mulder> ok
[09:22] <octan> Mulder, dual core you sad?
[09:22] <Kr4t05> octan: I beat you. Two 17" CRTs at 1280x1024 each.
[09:22] <Kr4t05> 2560x1024 total resolution. :)
[09:22] <Kr4t05> With XGL/compiz.
[09:22] <Mulder> yes
[09:22] <baldi> xD
[09:23] <Mulder> duo core intel
[09:23] <octan> Kr4t05, lol.
[09:23] <baldi> 1 widescreen 15'', 1 crt 17''
[09:23] <baldi> *hihi*
[09:23] <octan> Mulder, what does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
[09:23] <Kr4t05> H
[09:23] <baldi> infos about the cpu?
[09:23] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: XGL?
[09:23] <baldi> xD
[09:24] <Mulder> processor 0
[09:24] <Mulder> that is all
[09:24] <Mulder> no 1
[09:24] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Goodness no.  I don't want to risk the chance of messing up my system for XGL
[09:24] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Chicken. It's actually not that hard if you have an nVidia card.
[09:24] <octan> Mulder i think its seen as 0 cos its dualcore not dual socket
[09:25] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: and, with the recent updates, I've had less and less bugs/crashes.
[09:25] <Mulder> one cpu seems to be recognized not the two of them
[09:25] <Mulder> I guess I need to install linux 686 smp right?
[09:25] <octan> Mulder its still on the same socket
[09:26] <Mulder> but normally I should processor 0 and processor 1 right?
[09:26] <Mulder> should have
[09:27] <octan> Mulder go to #kernel and ask  some ppl in ther should answer in 1or 2 houers.
[09:27] <Mulder> ok
[09:27] <Kr4t05> hours*
[09:27] <Kr4t05> Sorry...
[09:27] <octan> blah
[09:27] <octan>  :P
[09:27] <ravenous> there's not two actual physical cpu's on the machine i dont see why it would show two
[09:27] <Kr4t05> I'm a bit of an English Nazi. ><
[09:27] <octan> ravenous, exactly
[09:28] <Mulder> but still it should show pro 0 and proc 1
[09:28] <Martijn81> yeah, KTorrent 2.0.2 is out :)
[09:28] <Kr4t05> Martijn81: Old news. :P
[09:28] <Mulder> everywhere I looked at said that, so i assume
[09:28] <octan> its 1 dualcore on socet0 therfor its seen as prosessor 0, it it was dual socket then it should have shown 0 and 1
[09:28] <Kr4t05> I've had it since yesterday. :P
[09:28] <mzelem> I have 2 hp printers that print out jiberish. When I click the test button it prints out fine, but if I print from an app it prints out jiberish and spits out a bunch of blank pages, couls someone please help me figure out what is wrong?
[09:29] <Martijn81> Kr4t05, no it's not, it just out, you're talking about 2.0.1
[09:29] <Mulder> ppl in kernel are sleeping...so it seems :-)
[09:29] <Kr4t05> ...
[09:30] <octan> Mulder, it probealy shares the task between eachother .. like when on is at full capasity the other takes over.
[09:30] <Mulder> I am confused now damn
[09:30] <sleeptyper> dual core is what it says - two cpus in same package
[09:30] <octan> but its on 1 socket
[09:30] <Mulder> anyone having a duo core here?
[09:30] <sleeptyper> and intel's hyperthreading shows 1 chip as two cpus...
[09:30] <Kr4t05> Martijn81: Yeah, you're right...
[09:31] <Kr4t05> Martijn81: I was talking about 2.0.1
[09:31] <Mulder> I have asked and looked around and all says proc 0 and pro 1
[09:31] <Mulder> cpu family 6
[09:31] <Mulder> model 14
[09:31] <bashee> should show 2 cpus: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki//proc/cpuinfo
[09:32] <Martijn81> Kr4t05, dunno if it has the new gui stuff as in svn though, but some serious issues got solved
[09:32] <octan> Mulder how many bogomips? just curious
[09:33] <Mulder> what is that?
[09:33] <octan> google
[09:33] <Mulder> I am new remeber it is jibbrish stuff to me
[09:34] <Mulder> that means penis in old summerian Wow!
[09:34] <octan> as i recal.. the hight the bogomips is the better performance does the cpu,.. in short terms,, but it more complicated than that..
[09:34] <octan> *higher
[09:34] <ravenous> well the next bet would be to install a smp kernel then if you dont have one i would guess
[09:34] <Mulder> man you are losing me
[09:34] <Mulder> that is what I said earlier :-)
[09:35] <Mulder> linux 686 smp
[09:35] <ravenous> if you cat /proc/cpuinfo bogomips are listed in the bottom of the list
[09:35] <Mulder> but can't install it
[09:35] <ravenous> why?
[09:35] <octan> mine is bogomips        : 4423.12
[09:35] <octan> :)
[09:35] <Mulder> 2002.09
[09:36] <ravenous> 2797.60
[09:36] <aka_foley> hello! i have big problems with my s3 savage 4 card 64mb tv out i cant set 1024*768 only 800*600 yesterday i have 1024*768! how to install this mo****fuc***g card
[09:36] <Mulder> because I can't download it even though I am connected to the web arf!
[09:36] <ravenous> Mulder: are you trying through adept or apt-get or what?
[09:36] <Mulder> adept
[09:36] <ravenous> do you get an error?
[09:37] <Mulder> still on live cd though will it make a difference?
[09:37] <ravenous> uh yeah heh
[09:37] <octan> yes
[09:37] <octan> ofcource
[09:37] <Mulder> so i need to install it again
[09:37] <octan> Mulder yes
[09:37] <octan> else. where whould the kernel be when you reboot with a livecd :P
[09:38] <Mulder> OK well guess I have to do it then...foolish me
[09:38] <Mulder> yes octan you're right sir
[09:38] <Mulder> I have been octanised!
[09:38] <octan> lol
[09:38] <aka_foley> can sombody help me please
[09:38] <aka_foley> i tried all the day to install the card
[09:38] <Mulder> well then I better do it and come back to you guys
[09:39] <octan> aka_foley, #freedesktop & #xorg
[09:39] <Mulder> ok then let's go cisco!
[09:39] <octan> fuck that
[09:40] <Mulder> windows?
[09:40] <octan> haha
[09:40] <octan> gentoo :P
[09:40] <Mulder> Xp...gates...vista...ok I go now
[09:40] <octan> wot
[09:41] <octan> http://nuxil.dynserv.net:81/screenshot/livebackgound.png :) my screen
[09:48] <pibarnas> does kubuntu 6.06.1 already has kde 3.5.4? And has the X11 trouble solved?
[09:49] <Kr4t05> Ok... That sucked...
[09:51] <Kr4t05> Ok, rebooting again.
[09:55] <Kr4t05> bah...
[09:55] <Kr4t05> InitNG is starting to aggravate me.
[09:56] <DaSkreech> !language
[09:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:57] <DaSkreech> aka_foley: Which S# card are you trying to tinstall and what have you tried?
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Damn :-(
[09:59] <yankee> hi :-)
[10:00] <DaSkreech> hi
[10:00] <yankee> anybody tried to install Kubuntu ithout a dvd-drive? ^^
[10:01] <yankee> because mine is not very relieable... It is a little bit damaged and works only sometimes...
[10:03] <cesar> hola  a todos
[10:03] <DaSkreech> yankee: Eh?
[10:03] <DaSkreech> Hi cesar
[10:03] <DaSkreech> !es
[10:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:03] <Kr4t05> Does anyone else here use initng?
[10:03] <cesar> alguien ah probado mono sobre  kubuntu
[10:04] <yankee> well... it is my laptop and i put it into in a backpack with the open-button first...
[10:04] <yankee> you can imagine what happend, when I tried to get it out again...
[10:04] <lupine_85> yankee: you can install from hard drive, network, etc
[10:05] <yankee> In the moment I have Windows XP on it... I am going to kill Windows completely... If I can install from harddiks, could I use an external harddiks and boot from it or something like this...?
[10:06] <yankee> I guess, that if I want to insatll via network, I still need the dvd-drive to boot from at first...
[10:06] <DaSkreech> How wonky is the DVD?
[10:07] <yankee> I have not managed to operate the dvd drive in the last couple of weeks for more than 5 minutes :-(...
[10:07] <yankee> Even this has become very hard :-(
[10:08] <lupine_85> yankee: you can boot from hard disc, floopy, CD, network...
[10:08] <lupine_85> ...USB stick, another linux install..
[10:08] <lupine_85> plenty of choice
[10:09] <Xtreem> back
[10:09] <Armagguedes> hello
[10:09] <Tokeiito> could any one share experience with Open Office vs KOffice?
[10:09] <Xtreem> has anyone tried the [d:b]  distro?
[10:10] <Armagguedes> i am about to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4, but i've been told that this version breaks a lot of things (is rather buggy)
 you can boot from hard disc, floopy, CD, network... << well... I still have to get the installation files to a hard disc... If I can use an external harddiks that would be fine, but how do I make my external harddiks bootable so that I can install from it...
[10:10] <Armagguedes> true?
[10:10] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: Yes. YMMV
[10:10] <Armagguedes> hm crap
[10:11] <Armagguedes> how can i update&fix?
[10:11] <Xtreem> well, I now have found my new favorite OS
[10:11] <Xtreem> i g2g install it on about 5 more PC's
[10:11] <Xtreem> cya
[10:12] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: Depends on what you break :)
[10:12] <Armagguedes> hm ok tks.
[10:12] <Armagguedes> i'll stick to 3.5.3 then
[10:12] <Armagguedes> i'll wait for 3.5.5
[10:12] <lupine_85> yankee: as long as you've got network access on the laptop, you can do anything! See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FindPage?action=fullsearch&titlesearch=1&value=Installation for Ubuntu-specific guides, or you can check out the (much better, IMO - and easily adaptable to Ubuntu) Debian guide at http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
[10:13] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: Gg :)
[10:13] <Armagguedes> anyone here proficient in music enconding (i'm encoding to FLAC @ level 8) and normalizing?
[10:14] <Kr4t05> Armagguedes:  man mencoder
 @reading :-). Wow, I would have never guesses so many possibilitys...
[10:14] <Armagguedes> is normalizing a track a good idea?
[10:15] <lupine_85> Armagguedes: depends how it's done
[10:15] <Armagguedes> lupine_85 please explain
[10:15] <lupine_85> mp3gain, for instance, is very sophisticated - and lossless
[10:16] <lupine_85> others will just get an average volume and re-encode the tracks (lossily) to that "average" volume... of course, music doesn't work like that
[10:17] <lupine_85> (e.g. a hardcore death-rock track at a quieter "average" volume than Enya would still sound louder to the human ear)
[10:17] <nagyv> how could I use my mobile phone as a modem for my laptop to connect to the net?
[10:17] <lupine_85> !CDMA
[10:17] <Armagguedes> i'm normalizing tracks in FLAC between 90% and 98% on CDex (im on XP, my Kub box is busted)
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CDMA - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <Armagguedes> hm i see
[10:18] <lupine_85> nagyv: depends on a lot of factors. Essentially, you need to set up a ppp connection with the phone's serial line as the comms device
[10:18] <lupine_85> So much depends on the  model of phone, what it supports, and what linux supports, that it's impossible to give a step-by-step
[10:19] <lupine_85> Google might give you a better answer
[10:19] <nagyv> lupine_85: and what should I google for? what are the keywords?
[10:20] <lupine_85> "linux <phone model|brand|make> modem" would be a good start
[10:21] <rancidd> Hey guys, I run kubuntu / KDE.  Whenever I play music say through xmms/realplayer (when i stream radio off the net), and say i move a window around or i click a button, the system (kde) sounds mess up my music playing, and then it hits a repeated loop that sounds really bad.. in other words, i can only listen to music if i dont touch anything.. this is really annoying, and im wondering if there is anything I can do to fix it?
[10:21] <Jazon> i am only getting ~500 fps from glxgears.  ATI Radeon X300... fglrxinfo shows at radeon x300 openGL version 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)
[10:21] <yankee> Wow... There is even an InstallFromWindows... Exactly what I need to avoid my dvd-drive...  I am still somewhat concerned about what happens when something fails during the installation after I already deleted the windows-partitions. But I guess, I risk it.
[10:21] <Jazon> any suggestions?
[10:22] <yugge> Hey, I'm haveing this (http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3175/picture012iy6.jpg) problem with my command line on my laptop. What do I have to do to get it fixed? :D
[10:23] <Jazon> yugge: trying running in frame buffer mode maybe???
[10:24] <yugge> Jazon any help with doing that?
[10:24] <Jazon> yugge: i am not familiar enough with the livecd - sorry m8....
[10:24] <yugge> Jazon it's not the livecd...
[10:25] <Jazon> did it work with the livecd yugge
[10:25] <yugge> Jazon no
[10:25] <Kr4t05> Bah... ><
[10:25] <Jazon> yugge: heh - and you installed it anyway??? :P
[10:26] <yugge> Jazon well, once you get up to X it works perfectly. So i thought why bother
[10:26] <Kr4t05> Does anyone here know anything about InitNG?
[10:26] <yankee> @lupine_85 thx a lot! That was so helpful!
[10:27] <Jazon> ahhhhh ok.  i get it now....  yugge, my brother in law has the same problem with an lcd screen for his desktop.  well, a *similar* problem.... we haven't solved it yet
[10:27] <yugge> Jazon thats bad...
[10:28] <yugge> Jazon I wouldn't mind If I didn't need to recomplie the kernel in the command line. to get APM support.
[10:30] <hagus> Greetings :)
[10:30] <yugge> Gurb and everything else works perfectly. Isn't there a config file for the commandline I can look at?
[10:31] <sdfsaedcjhm> hi
[10:32] <lupine_85> Hagus: no ;)
[10:33] <lupine_85> apart from hearing various barbed comments about how speedy it is
[10:33] <hagus> I get your drift, lupine :)
[10:33] <FedAgt> hey, has anyone had problems installing the 'build-essentials' .dep package?
[10:34] <FedAgt> *.deb
[10:34] <Martijn81> FedAgt: nope
[10:34] <lupine_85>  build-essential
[10:34] <hagus> ok, ty lupine - catch you all later :)
[10:34] <lupine_85> !build-essential
[10:34] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:35] <FedAgt> the pre built package doesnt work
[10:35] <lupine_85> it's a metapackage
[10:35] <lupine_85> just pulls in all it's dependencies
[10:36] <lupine_85> so your other option is to install each package that build-essential depends on
[10:36] <lupine_85> (easiest to do in adept, I guess)
[10:36] <FedAgt> i tried but they wont install either
[10:36] <lupine_85> then you've got a more general problem with your repositories
[10:36] <lupine_85> !repositories
[10:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:37] <FedAgt> its a clean install though
[10:38] <Larynx> o rly?
[10:41] <TheFuzzball> hello, does anyone know where I can find a Inkscake 0.44 repository for Kubuntu?
[10:41] <arepie> !inkscake
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inkscake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <TheFuzzball> Inkscape*
[10:42] <Philip5> hehe
[10:42] <arepie> lol.. :P
[10:42] <TheFuzzball> !Inskcape
[10:42] <arepie> !inkscape
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Inskcape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[10:43] <arepie> not in the reps i guess..
[10:43] <skavenge> !info inkscape
[10:43] <ubotu> inkscape: vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.43-4ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 7201 kB, installed size 28184 kB
[10:43] <TheFuzzball> I know, but it is out of date
[10:44] <skavenge> google for an unofficial repo or deb or compile then i guess
[10:44] <[GuS] > TheFuzzball, i made a package for Kubuntu of inkscape 0.44
[10:44] <A|i3N> how would I go about compiling a program written in python?
[10:44] <TheFuzzball> Gus: can you send it me?
[10:44] <jdong_> TheFuzzball: https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bug/50841
[10:44] <Kr4t05> If anyone out there is paying attention to me, can anyone tell me if they've gotten InitNG working with KDM?
[10:45] <jdong_> TheFuzzball: (explanation of why it's still out of date :) )
[10:45] <[GuS] > TheFuzzball, when i get home.. yes... i am at work rigfht now
[10:46] <skavenge> does anyone know of a definitive xgl howto that actually works and is current?
[10:48] <FedAgt> try the xgl channel?
[10:48] <Hawkwind> !xgl
[10:48] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:49] <skavenge> Hawkwind: im actually trying to use yours and am running into hiccups
[10:49] <Hawkwind> skavenge: There are probably better ones out there.  I'd surely ask in #Ubuntu-XGL to see
[10:49] <justjosh> how do you restart kde?
[10:50] <Hawkwind> justjosh: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:50] <skavenge> okay
[10:50] <FedAgt> how do i fix unmet dependencies when installing build-essential .deb?
[10:51] <Hawkwind> FedAgt: How are you trying to install it ?
[10:51] <Hawkwind> FedAgt: Hopefully, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:51] <FedAgt> i cant get online, so i have to use the build-essential.deb
[10:52] <Hawkwind> FedAgt: Then you need to download the deps.  However, it should be on the CD I would think
[10:52] <FedAgt> i have, they wont install tried the download one and the one on the cd
[10:52] <FedAgt> they say they have unmet dependencies
[10:57] <red> how exactly do you install new themes
[10:57] <FedAgt> no one knows how to fix it then?
[11:00] <Hawkwind> FedAgt: If you have all the deps in .deb format then dpkg -i file1 file2 file3 and so on should work
[11:00] <Hawkwind> FedAgt: I'd assume you don't have all the deps though.  Also, if you have your CD as a source, it should work from that using apt-get install build-essential
[11:01] <FedAgt> Hawkwind: will it? i tried in adept as well and it said the install was broken?
[11:02] <Armagguedes> fark
[11:02] <Armagguedes> my firefox doesnt open some pages
[11:02] <Armagguedes> for absolutely no reason
[11:02] <EmergeTW_> I am trying to get Amarok 1.4.2 installed but when I request an update it just says "BREAK (upgrade)" but I don't see any way to resolve the issue as it doesnt seem to show what other packages it would break to update it. any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
[11:02] <Armagguedes> as it opened them before
[11:03] <Armagguedes> EmergeTW_ try uninstalling e everything amarok-related
[11:03] <Armagguedes> and then reinstall the latest version
[11:03] <Armagguedes> might work??
[11:04] <yugge> I got some questions. 1. Is there an easy way to enable ACPI? Grub tells me my bios do not have APM?
[11:05] <yugge> 2.Is there any solution to this http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3175/picture012iy6.jpg problem?
[11:05] <reddwolf78> could some please help get his file geexbox-1.0-lite.tar.bz2 intstalled i went ove the web site that was given to me and i don't under stand it
[11:05] <EmergeTW_> Now if I try to install amarok, it says "BREAK (install)" =\ any more ideas?
[11:07] <ubuntu> trying from CD, what an experience...
[11:08] <A|i3N> can someone tell me or point me to a document that would tell me how to compile a python program?
[11:08] <reddwolf78> i'm new with linux i have been on my linux system for about 2 weeks so  could some please help get his file geexbox-1.0-lite.tar.bz2 intstalled i went ove the web site that was given
[11:08] <nixternal> EmergeTW_: press your "auto synch" or "auto setup" button on your LCD
[11:09] <vge> reddwolf78: have you got is untarred?
[11:09] <nixternal> mine does that as well...
[11:09] <ubuntu> is there a certain subject, or just talking about kubuntu?
[11:09] <reddwolf78> i have it extrated to a file
[11:09] <Kr4t05> !compiling > reddwolf78
[11:09] <nixternal> ooh..that is a lappy...nevermind
[11:09] <A|i3N> !compiling > A|i3N
[11:09] <vge> reddwolf78:  can you find a readme inside that folder?
[11:10] <reddwolf78> i have the web site and i don't under stand it
[11:10] <reddwolf78> i will take a look
[11:10] <reddwolf78> i found a readme
[11:10] <yugge> nixternal if that was to me, then, yeah =/
[11:11] <nixternal> oh yugge, ya it was to you..sorry ;)
 i did find a readme file
[11:12] <vge> reddwolf78: when your in the folder, is there "confiqure" file in it
 i see a config folder
[11:13] <wolfmanz> anyone here using TeamSpeak with the OSS-ALSA wrapper?
[11:14] <vge> reddwolf78: search a file named configure
[11:14] <reddwolf78> ok
[11:14] <reddwolf78> brings up the folder
[11:15] <vge> is there a file named "configure" ?
[11:16] <reddwolf78> nope
[11:16] <reddwolf78> there is one calded make file
[11:16] <reddwolf78> called*
[11:16] <vge> then, use konsole and move into that folder
[11:17] <reddwolf78> how do i move in to that folder
[11:17] <vge> cd "foldername" moves yout to that folder
[11:17] <vge> "ls" lists folder content
[11:19] <reddwolf78> tells me command not found
[11:19] <vge> "cd foldername" moves you to that folder if folder exists
[11:20] <reddwolf78> i'm in
[11:21] <D4rkly> how do i get my konsole to save my user history ?
[11:22] <vge> reddwolf78: your in that folder now?
[11:23] <reddwolf78> yes and i see a config  but its writen in blue
[11:23] <jbeagley> hmm
[11:23] <vge> reddwolf78: different colours means different folder/file priviledges
[11:24] <reddwolf78> oh
[11:24] <reddwolf78> the config i see must be a foler then
[11:24] <jbeagley> how can i read messages from kmail on a different account/without kmail?
[11:24] <reddwolf78> or something
[11:24] <vge> no, file can be blue too, it's determiend what rights you have to that folder/file
[11:25] <reddwolf78> oh
[11:25] <reddwolf78> ok
[11:25] <vge> reddwolf78: you see that make file now?
[11:25] <reddwolf78> Yes
[11:25] <reddwolf78> its in white
[11:25] <vge> then type "sudo make"
[11:26] <D4rkly> does anyone know how i can fix my Konsole so it saves my commad history every time i close it ?
[11:26] <vge> D4rkly: second click the konsole window and choose history?
[11:26] <reddwolf78> it asked me to install something
[11:26] <vge> build-essentials?
[11:26] <reddwolf78> ok
[11:27] <vge> you can find it trought adept
[11:27] <jbeagley> i need some help with kmail
[11:27] <D4rkly> its enabled ?
[11:27] <D4rkly> unlimited
[11:28] <vge> D4rkly: actually i might have the same problem, but im using kuake, and it's opened all the time so i really dont close it :/
[11:28] <D4rkly> does anyone know where the konsole history is saved ?
[11:29] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: ~/.bash_history
 do i have to get this set up everytime i have to make a file
[11:34] <vge> reddwolf78: configure/make/make install is usually needed if your planning to install program from sources, but usually they can all be sound preinstalled
[11:34] <reddwolf78> oh
[11:35] <reddwolf78> this one program i need to intall i needed it to help me dj  from linux since i got rid of my xp system
[11:37] <D4rkly> how do i disply file permission using ls ?
[11:38] <aseigo> D4rkly: ls -l
[11:38] <D4rkly> thanks :)
[11:39] <vge> reddwolf78: are you installing "GeeXboX ISO generator"?
[11:39] <reddwolf78> yes i found it on freshmeat.net and it wourks with shout cast
[11:40] <reddwolf78> or did  i make the wrong choice
[11:40] <vge> so you have installed the program allready?
[11:40] <reddwolf78> no whating for the make  thing to go finish installing
[11:41] <z00m> greetings all :D
[11:42] <z00m> hows it going, anyone know where i can find the damn screen res settings i did find it once but i can't seem to find it now :D
[11:42] <supernix>    /uptime
[11:43] <supernix> Uptime: 5 days, 1 hours and 23 minutes
[11:43] <D4rkly> if your Konsole isnt saving its history everytime you close it you have to type this:         sudo chown user:user ~/.bash_history
[11:44] <D4rkly> bash_history was set to root permissions
[11:45] <z00m> is this the max screen res 1024 x 768 in linux ?
[11:45] <vge> reddwolf78: you dont need to write the program from sources, you can use precompiled deb from: http://geexbox.org/en/downloads.html"
[11:45] <reddwolf78> realy i didn
[11:45] <reddwolf78> didn't know they had one already compiled
[11:46] <vge> deb http://www.geexbox.org/debian/ unstable main
[11:46] <vge> deb-src http://www.geexbox.org/debian/ unstable main
[11:46] <vge> just add those into your sources.list
[11:47] <reddwolf78> my source list
[11:47] <reddwolf78> ok
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> hiya z00m, max res is whatever your monitor / graphics card can handle
[11:48] <z00m> TheGateKeeper: i just have the settings 1027 X 768 in mine thats the max
[11:48] <z00m> 1024 i mean
[11:49] <TheGateKeeper> z00m: ok
[11:49] <z00m> i have the acer AL1716 TFT
[11:49] <z00m> in windows it allows loads more than that
[11:49] <z00m> maybe need the driver for linux
 should i finish what i started with the make
[11:50] <vge> naah, no need
[11:50] <reddwolf78> or get the already compiled version
[11:51] <reddwolf78> would it hurt if i just close out the konsole
[11:51] <vge> nope
[11:51] <reddwolf78> while its still running
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> z00m: you could try modifying /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:51] <vge> reddwolf78: what is running?
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> z00m: but back it up first
[11:51] <z00m> there is acer model in the list but not mine, on settings
[11:52] <reddwolf78> the konsole is still running from when i typed in make and asked me to get a file
[11:52] <z00m> my monitor is setup to plug-n-play
[11:52] <nagyv> does someone has any experiences running easyconnect (easyconnect.linuxuser.hu) under ubuntu?
[11:53] <z00m> another thing, how do you find out what services are running on a port ?
[11:53] <z00m> because i have some strange ports open here ... but they are set to locahost in netstat
[11:53] <z00m> connected to localhost that is
[11:53] <reddwolf78> should i stop it
[11:53] <vge> reddwolf78: yes
[11:54] <reddwolf78> how do i do that
[11:54] <reddwolf78> shut close out the konsole
[11:54] <z00m> where is the file where all the services start up on boot ?
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> z00m: not sure you would probable need to take a look at iptables
[11:54] <vge> there should be X button in righttop corner
[11:54] <reddwolf78> ok got it
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> !iptables > z00m
[11:55] <z00m> TheGateKeeper: strange in firestarter i have this
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> z00m: that is your firewall from that you should be able to tell what ports are open
[11:56] <z00m> source:127.0.0.1      destination:127.0.0.1      port:3282
[11:57] <z00m> thats under the active connections
[11:57] <z00m> :/
[11:57] <ravenous> anyone having problems with ubuntuforums.org?
[11:57] <z00m> plus IRC and kopete
[11:58] <z00m> but i dont know what that service is that is connected to localhost
[11:58] <z00m> striange
[11:58] <z00m> strange
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> z00m: I have never really got round to examining iptables much, so I am not the best person to ask
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> z00m: you could always shut the port, and see what doesn't work anymore
[12:00] <z00m> TheGateKeeper: OK thanks for responding anyways ;) ... .. that connection has been there for a while and I'm just wondering what it is and have been since i saw it but don't know how to find out.
[12:01] <z00m> any ideas how to close it because all out connection are allowed on this computer
[12:01] <osoh> hi
[12:02] <TheGateKeeper> z00m: doesn't firestarter give you an option to close a port?
[12:02] <D4rkly> is it possible to switch to display:0 (xorg) while running Xgl ?
[12:04] <z00m> TheGateKeeper: no it does not
[12:05] <gan|y|med> anybody here who is profound in gimp (i have already tried #gimp)
[12:05] <soulrider> uhm i can use it
[12:05] <soulrider> but im not pro
[12:05] <soulrider> im better at photoshop, what do you need?
[12:06] <gan|y|med> anyway. could you have a look at http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/tomcat1/ -> i cannot reproduce step 6
[12:06] <gan|y|med> please
[12:06] <soulrider> k, hang on
[12:07] <jake1> how can i tell what driver my wirless PCMCIA card is using at this time
 for some reasone i can't get the file to open with K3b to burn it to cd-r
[12:07] <Larynx> how do you open a terminal?
[12:07] <Larynx> :)
[12:07] <jake1> my card is a Lucent Technologies Orinoco (which would make me assume it's using a orinoco driver) but i jst want to be sure
[12:08] <soulrider> gan|y|med: what is it that you acnt reproduce exactly? dont you have hte filter or something?
[12:09] <gan|y|med> no, i am using gimp 2.2.x and i cannot choose under lighting effects the greyscale image for the bumpmap. it is not listed
[12:10] <jake1> anyone?
[12:10] <gan|y|med> and the options for material are not exact, too. but i'll deal with that later
[12:10] <soulrider> ok, hold on, im gonna have to dot he tut myself until i reach that point
[12:10] <soulrider> it will take me a few mins