[12:18] <mjg59> A mixture
[03:19] <zul> heh mini patch bomb
[03:22] <crimsun> I'm still frustrated by Thunderbird's insistence on munging attachments instead of inlining them, but that could be my fault.
[09:07] <grexk> Is there a problem with make-kpkg and xen-source-2.6.16
[10:58] <Nafallo> hi! are we really going to ship with the rt2x00 rt61pci-driver?
[10:59] <Nafallo> it's useless it seems. no scanning and I fail to associate.
[03:13] <Nafallo> we have a regression in edgy called rt2x00 ;-)
[03:53] <thom> Nafallo: are you really planning to say that every 12 hours?
[03:54] <Nafallo> thom: naah, I'll file a bug when I'm finished configuring the router ;-)
[03:54] <Nafallo> or until I see BenC alive maybe :-)
[04:57] <Nafallo> BenC: hi :-)
[04:57] <BenC> hello
[04:58] <Nafallo> BenC: we have a regression from dapper I would like to report :-).
[04:58] <BenC> ok
[04:58] <Nafallo> BenC: seems rt61pci doesn't let me neither scan nor associate with aps
[04:59] <Nafallo> I rebooted to dapper, and worked fine there :-)
[04:59] <BenC> iwlist scan wlan0
[04:59] <BenC> doesn't show anything?
[05:00] <Nafallo> wlan0     No scan results
[05:00] <Nafallo> in dapper with ra0 I had like four aps :-)
[05:01] <BenC> iwconfig wlan0 show anything useful?
[05:01] <Nafallo> wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""  
[05:01] <Nafallo>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
[05:01] <Nafallo>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2346 B   
[05:01] <Nafallo> 
[05:02] <BenC> sucks, we had a rt61 pci card in germany I was going to grab and take home, but I forgot
[05:02] <Nafallo> tell sabdfl to send you one? :-)
[05:03] <Nafallo> my feeling is that we should wait until the whole rt2x00 is ready ;-)
[05:03] <Nafallo> and with ready I mean that we can scan, or atleast associate :-)
[05:08] <Nafallo> anyway, what to do? build from rt2600 in the next kernel upload? :-)
[05:15] <BenC> Nafallo: probably can't for the next upload
[05:15] <Nafallo> oh?
[05:15] <zul> heh i should say whether my patches either edgy or dapper
[05:15] <BenC> Nafallo: but you can file a bug here, and also one at the rt2x00 site and link it
[05:16] <Nafallo> yea, I will after I got this linksys configured as I want it :-)
[05:16] <BenC> Nafallo: I have to get a kernel upload done real soon (like today), and putting that driver in will cause a whole build cycle for me
[05:17] <Nafallo> ah. but the next one after that? :-)
[05:17] <BenC> right now everything compiles, and I'm just cleaning up the details for lrm/linux-meta/vmware-player-modules/kexec-tools
[05:17] <BenC> should be able to
[05:18] <mjg59> Nafallo: We have no plans to allow functionalty to regress
[05:18] <mjg59> Nafallo: Please open a bug and note in the subject that it's a regression from dapper
[05:18] <mjg59> And then we'll deal with it as appropriate
[05:19] <BenC> Nafallo: better yet, in the keywords, add edgy-regression
[05:19] <Nafallo> will do :-)
[05:19] <BenC> Make the keywords "rt61pci edgy-regression"
[05:20] <Nafallo> keywords is title? or the new tags thing?
[05:20] <BenC> tags
[05:21] <BenC> exim4+starttls+gnutls blocks ssl connections until it gets enough entropy the first time to create an rsa key
[05:21] <BenC> and my little box isn't doing anything useful enough to get it :/
[05:22] <thom> ping it a lot? (the kernel does still use network events to generate entropy, right?)
[05:22] <BenC> depends on the ethernet card I think
[05:23] <BenC> I think they did away with general network traffic being used for rng because it allowed outside sources to create somewhat known entropy
[05:24] <thom> right
[05:24] <thom> hrm, that's a pain
[05:26] <BenC> luckily it's a mame arcade machine (yes, my smtp server is running in an arcade cabinet), so I just have to walk over to it and mes with all the buttons, joysticks and trackball until it pumps some out :)
[05:26] <Nafallo> lol
[05:26] <BenC> my arcade setup has become a $200 manual entropy source
[05:27] <thom> hah
[05:39] <zul> BenC: in theory you have too much time on your hands ;)
[05:44] <infinity> BenC: Oh, sure, *now* the next kernel is almost ready.
[05:44] <infinity> BenC: You realise this means you get to roll in the LRM changes I just uploaded today. :P
[05:49] <Nafallo> Bug #58117
[05:50] <BenC> infinity: fuck...now that does set my schedule back :P
[05:50] <Nafallo> oh, no Ubugtu ;-)
[05:50] <BenC> I think the Ubugtu maint thought we weren't good enough to have it in the channel
[05:50] <Nafallo> schedule back means working wifi soon? ;-)
[05:50] <BenC> we're kernel devs, second class citizens and all
[05:50] <Nafallo> lol
[05:50] <kylem> heh.
[05:51] <Nafallo> just ping Seveas about it then ;-)
[05:52] <zul> do you actually want a bot in here?
[05:53] <zul> heh we can mess with it and not get any wory done
[05:53] <infinity> Ubugtu is handy for spewing out URLs.
[05:53] <infinity> I can't imagine any other reason I'd want a bot in here, though.
[05:53] <Nafallo> ... and short info most of all :-)
[05:53] <BenC> infinity: is the source for your new lrm accessible atm?
[05:54] <infinity> BenC: Should be published by now, yeah.
[05:54] <Nafallo> the upload was almost two hours ago :-)
[05:54] <infinity> Directory: pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17
[05:54] <infinity> Files:
[05:54] <infinity>  6b3de0ac1d51dc13863f7e83bb2e3d37 3140 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17_2.6.17.3-1.dsc
[05:54] <infinity>  1f841e9c5c32a70a90fdb6c60c4c80f0 91555843 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17_2.6.17.3.orig.tar.gz
[05:54] <infinity>  6893929c3fcecba0ea6e226698db4511 83479 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17_2.6.17.3-1.diff.gz
[05:54] <infinity> Very published.
[05:55] <BenC> Nafallo: kernel upload will still be soon, just means lrm for the abi bump will be a little delayed
[05:55] <Nafallo> ah :-)
[05:56] <Nafallo> hmm, if the ralink drivers are still in there I might just aswell recompile it locale in the meantime :-)
[06:01] <Nafallo> it isn't :-P
[06:04] <Nafallo> oh... this kernel upload will contain less flavours, right? :-)
[06:10] <BenC> yes, they are
[06:11] <Nafallo> nice :-)
[06:11] <BenC> no, I mean yes, the old drivers are there
[06:11] <BenC> drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00-legacy
[06:11] <BenC> are the old ones
[06:11] <BenC> rt2570 is the one you want
[06:11] <Nafallo> ehm, no? I want rt61
[06:12] <Nafallo> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt61-cvs-daily.tar.gz
[06:12] <BenC> oh, that's right
[06:12] <BenC> there's no rt61 legacy driver
[06:13] <Nafallo> this one is.
[06:13] <Nafallo> ralinks code with fixes from the rt2500-tree.
[06:13] <BenC> hrmm...well, try it out :)
[06:13] <Nafallo> I will :-)
[06:13] <Nafallo> RT2561 (DeviceID=0x0302)  : cost down version
[06:14] <Nafallo> baah :-P
[06:14] <Nafallo> that's the one I have ;-)
[06:15] <Nafallo> hmm, it complains about missing build directory in /lib/modules/(uname -r)/
[06:15] <mjg59> Install the kernel headers
[06:15] <BenC> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:16] <Nafallo> ah, I thought -generic was in some ubuntu-seed now
[06:18] <BenC> not sure what you mean, but it's most likely irrelevant
[06:18] <Nafallo> okidoki :-)
[06:18] <Nafallo> that ubuntu-desktop depends on linux-headers-686 :-)
[06:22] <Nafallo> this one works
[06:22] <Nafallo> I can scan again :-)
[06:32] <BenC> ok, time to do some boot testing
[06:52] <thom> why does -server-bigiron have sound drivers?
[07:25] <Mithrandir> thom: you might want to run asterisk on your bigiron server and use the sound card's built-in mp3 decoder to lighten the load?  (Contrived case, yes, I know)
[07:31] <thom> Mithrandir: i think that's a little beyond contrived :-)
[07:32] <zul> how about i need to listen to mp3s while i read your email :)
[07:34] <thom> zul: if you're sat in front of a bigiron box listening to mp3s i hope you have great headphones :P
[07:35] <zul> heh..