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TheHarbinger667alchamy: nope12:01
Psych0tiCwhen I try to access http://localhost it tells me the connection was refused...12:01
TheHarbinger667alchamy: it doesn't even disassociate from linksys if i look at iwconfig12:01
sverzellinuchsan, yes.. nice observation about the copying on the same drive though. The NTFS reading seems to hogg CPU12:02
joliim trying to setup isatap suport, im using the usagi path to get that functionality into the kernel configuration but it dont shows up when i do a make menuconfig12:02
jolianyone can help?12:02
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Computerex256RAM is enough to install ubuntu, right?12:02
bruenigyes12:02
Jack_SparrowMinimum12:03
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ComputerexI have a crappy computer :( I dont think they even make computers with less then 1 Gig of ram anymore...12:03
sverzellinuchsan, well I feel better with it being a NTFS driver issue, which it seems to be. Thanks.. I think I know now where to search for a solution12:03
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alchamyTheHarbinger667: the only thing I can think of is to let wpasup do the scanning instead of the card run "sudo gedit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf" and add the following 2 lines in the beginning "ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant" & "ap_scan=2"12:04
jribrelachs: this seems to affect it: open nautilus, then go to edit > preferences, views, default zoom level12:04
ComputerexYou need 256 to install, or 256 to run?12:04
TheHarbinger667alchamy: :( i used network manager12:04
jribrelachs: default zoom level for icon view12:04
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nozorroComputerex: with 256 ubuntu will swap quite a bit, but it does run ok12:04
mweusing dpkg, should you remove an older version of a program before installing a new version?12:05
Psych0tiCwhy do I get a "connection refused by host" error when I try and acces localhost ?12:05
nozorroComputerex: I recently installed with 256 and the weren't any problems12:05
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brendonjtKia Ora all12:06
relachsjrib: ah, you are my hero, but i guess you don't know how to set the greater size only for the desktop?12:06
diablo`whats the file to handle init modules in ubuntu ?12:06
mwePsych0tiC: access, how?12:06
Psych0tiCin firefox I type in http://localhost12:06
ComputerexGood. Thanks. Hope it works... Just have to wait 11 hours and 12 minutes... Getting 30KB/s with a 256KB/s connection12:06
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mwePsych0tiC: and you have a web server running on localhos?12:06
jribrelachs: no, not sure about that12:07
Psych0tiCI installed apache2, I thought it is there by default12:07
TheHarbinger667alchamy: hmm12:07
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nozorroComputerex: well, you're improving :-)12:07
TheHarbinger667its broken even in the older kernel12:07
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mwePsych0tiC: sudo netstat -ntlp will show if it's listining12:07
TheHarbinger667what does ipw use?12:07
TheHarbinger667ieee80211, ipw2200, what else...12:07
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: I need your help12:07
Psych0tiCmwe, yes it is listening12:08
Jack_Sparrowyes12:08
sverzellinuchsan, thanks for your help - later12:08
ubuuserHI! Do you know how I find the german channel? I'm new to x-chat.12:08
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diseaseri think thats it.. maybe ieee80211_crypt if you are using ccmp12:08
jrib!de12:08
mwePsych0tiC: on 127.0.0.1?12:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:08
relachsjrib: anyway, thanks alot12:08
Psych0tiCmwe,yes12:08
sharperguyok, im trying to create a custom ubuntu distro12:08
TheHarbinger667nah, no CCMP12:08
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mwePsych0tiC: hmm12:08
sharperguybut the exract-cd folder isnt there like its meant to be12:08
ubuuserThanks, ubotu, and bye all.12:08
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: I'm trying to get my ATI TV-Wonder card to work...i found this guide to help me out with it...but there is this one command that it tells me to run that i apparently dont have permission to run even after using sudo?12:08
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linuchsansverzel:oke12:08
diseaserTheHarbinger667: WEP or TKIP?12:08
mwePsych0tiC: is the loopback interface up and no firewall is blocking the access?12:08
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TheHarbinger667WPA2112:09
TheHarbinger667err12:09
TheHarbinger667WPA212:09
TheHarbinger667TKIP+AES12:09
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220027 look at step 4..fxing your tv-tuner card12:09
Jack_Sparrowzoidberg: I dont have the time, but it probably cant find it to run it12:09
TheHarbinger667i mean, i had this working before in linux12:09
diseaserI think AES = CCMP doesnt it?12:09
Psych0tiCmwe, there is no firewall, and apache isn't listed among the programs next to the PID12:09
brendonjthey all how do i change bitchx default server12:09
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Psych0tiCthere's just hpiod, python, cupsd, sshd12:09
mwePsych0tiC: you said netstat said it was listening12:09
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: can you look at that real quick please?12:10
TheHarbinger667diseaser: i think ipw uses TKIP over AES actually12:10
TheHarbinger667either way, i can't even see the AP12:10
Psych0tiCI thougfht so... but now I see apache isn't listed...12:10
mwePsych0tiC: it should be httpd iirc12:10
afieldsSOlution to sendmail on Ubuntu Server Dapper -- use: echo "deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted">>/etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install sendmail12:10
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Psych0tiCmwe, how do I set that ?12:10
ladydoormwe: what does iirc mean, anyway?12:10
sharperguyum forgit it actually12:10
TheHarbinger667if i recall correctly12:10
mwePsych0tiC: I mean it should be listed as httpd12:11
Jack_Sparrowzoidberg: where on step 412:11
brendonjtladydoor: If I Recall Correctly12:11
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Psych0tiCmwe, but it isn't is there a way to set it ?12:11
mwePsych0tiC: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start will start it if it's not running12:11
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: the very first thing it says to type in terminal in step 412:11
mwePsych0tiC: set what?12:11
jribPsych0tiC, mwe: mine gets listed as apache2 over here, fwiw12:11
Psych0tiCmwe, nvm12:11
mwejrib: ok12:11
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alchamyTheHarbinger667: have you had any luck with a ndiswrapper?12:11
Jack_Sparrowzoidberg: change directory dosent work?12:12
TheHarbinger667alchamy: nope, i alwasy used ipw out of hte box12:12
particlemanhi everyone...I've been digging, and if such a list exists, I can't find a "Works out of the box" list for Dapper and wireless-G pci cards12:12
diseaserTheHarbinger667: yeah I have to do this ritual everytime I boot up to get on the wireless net with WPA/ipw2200.. i just made a script out of it, but basically it goes like this (my ipw is eth1):  ifdown -a ; killall wpa_supplicant ; iwconfig eth1 essid <my ssid> channel <my channel> mode Managed ; wpa_supplicant -B -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D wext -i eth1 -dd ; wpa_cli disconnect ; wpa_cli reassociate ; wpa_cli remove keys ; wpa_cli reconfigure ; ifup eth112:12
alchamyso "iwlist eth1 scan" only returns the one ap?12:12
particlemanany help or recommendations that you could provide would be appreciated12:12
jrib!wireless12:12
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: I changed the direcotry and this is the message i get "zoidberg@zoidberg:/etc/modprobe.d$ sudo echo "options cx88xx card=4 tuner=44" > cx88xx12:12
zoidbergbash: cx88xx: Permission denied12:12
zoidbergzoidberg@zoidberg:/etc/modprobe.d$12:12
zoidberg"12:12
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:12
linuchsanTheHarbinger667:what does swscanner say?12:12
ladydoorbrendonjt: oh, shiny!12:13
Psych0tiCmwe, I've tried starting it and then using netstat -ntlp,still isn't listed12:13
particlemanyay bots :P12:13
TheHarbinger667linuchsan: swscanner12:13
TheHarbinger667?12:13
mwejrib: didn't it used to be httpd in older versions though? or is my memory failing me?12:13
diseaserTheHarbinger667: the main mistake I found is that you need to use wext as the driver for wpa_supplicant, not ipw.. because of the kernels wireless extensions12:13
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: i t says "bash cx8xx: permission denied"12:13
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zoidbergJack_Sparrow: i t says "bash cx88xx: permission denied"12:13
TheHarbinger667diseaser: but ipw has worked for over 1 year for me12:13
Psych0tiCmwe, btw I'm using Ubuntu 5.1012:13
TheHarbinger667it just broke 1 week ago12:13
jribmwe: I don't know much about apache12:13
diseaserTheHarbinger667: and for some reason, you ahve to make wpa_supplicant remove keys/reconfigure for it to associate12:13
brendonjtladydoor:  you know how to  change the default server in bitchx12:13
mwePsych0tiC: and sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start didn't complain?12:13
mwejrib: ok12:14
diseaserTheHarbinger667: in ubuntu? or some other linux?12:14
Psych0tiCmwe, no12:14
TheHarbinger667diseaser: ubuntu12:14
mwePsych0tiC: is it running? ps -e|grep apac12:14
diseaserTheHarbinger667: interesting.. well that fixed it for me.  I found something out there on the net suggesting the use of wext instead of ipw and that fixed it12:14
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TheHarbinger667diseaser: i just use network manager (install from aptitude)12:14
Psych0tiCmwe, ps -e|grep apac doesn't sy anything just takes me to a new line12:14
TheHarbinger667and wireless works out of the box for me12:14
TheHarbinger667until now12:15
diseaserTheHarbinger667: i used ipw too, before I started trying out ubuntu12:15
ladydoorbrendonjt: sorry, i use irssi. maybe see if there's a #bitchx?12:15
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: are u there?12:15
mwePsych0tiC: it's not running then12:15
diseaserTheHarbinger667: ahh hmm12:15
linuchsanPsych0tiC: look at the log files12:15
Jack_Sparrowzoidberg: so line 2 dosent work..12:15
mwePsych0tiC: check the logs12:15
TheHarbinger667maybe i need tyo reinstall ipw220 and the subsystem?12:15
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: yes12:15
Psych0tiCmwe, where?12:15
mwePsych0tiC: /var/log/apache212:15
diseaserTheHarbinger667: well I did grab the latest ipw2200 fw & driver, and the latest ieee8021112:15
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Jack_Sparrowzoidberg: type in term ls12:16
TheHarbinger667can you reinstall those from apt?12:16
diseaserTheHarbinger667: had to compile them myself but I never was able to pinpoint if that was teh actual problem (the version)12:16
TheHarbinger667or do i have to compile from source12:16
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Psych0tiCmwe, thge access and the error logs are empty12:16
Psych0tiC*the12:16
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: okay...now what?12:16
mwePsych0tiC: odd12:16
ComputerexWhich language is ubuntu written in?12:16
mwePsych0tiC: gotta go for a minute. bbl12:16
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Psych0tiCmwe, k12:16
Computerexc?12:16
ComputerexC++?12:17
Jack_Sparrowzoidberg: do you see cx88xx12:17
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diseaserTheHarbinger667: probably.. but to be honest I dont know for sure becuase I did it from source.. do a google search for "ubuntu ipw2200 wpa_supplicant" or something similar and you should find a pretty popular doc on the ubuntu forums that will walk you through all that stuff (obtaining the new versions, compiling/installing them)... that is if you cant find a way to do it with apt12:17
linuchsanPsych0tiC:and /var/log/messages12:17
nozorroComputerex: it depends, there are lots of languages being used12:17
silent_screamhi12:17
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diseaserComputerex: grab the kernel source and check it out12:17
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: no i dont12:17
ne78Computerex many languages, C for the low level stuff12:17
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larryoneis there a seperate channel for ubuntu server???12:17
Jack_Sparrowzoidberg: I really, really need to get my work done...12:17
bruenig!server12:18
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/12:18
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TheHarbinger667diseaser: i'm wondering if the latest version isn't what messed my system up in the first place12:18
zoidbergJack_Sparrow: okay man its cool thanx a lot anyways12:18
bruenig#ubuntu-server12:18
Jack_Sparrowzoidberg: someone elase should be able to help... remember... patience12:18
Jack_Sparrownp12:18
silent_screami would like to know how can i make a script with some commands that would be executed when the system starts up!12:18
Psych0tiClinuchsan, what am I looking for in that messages file ?12:18
ne78Computerex the gnome gui is mostly C, the kde gui is C++, there is a also a lot of "scripting langauge" bash,perl,python,ruby12:18
larryonethanks bruenig12:18
diseaserTheHarbinger667: its possible but if you have only been using apt, I dont think there has been an update since 6.06.. I could be wrong though, but I dont think so.12:18
ladydoorsilent_scream: when you log into your window-manager, or at boot time?12:18
silent_screamon boot12:19
linuchsanPsych0tiC:maybe errors12:19
ladydoorsilent_scream: oh...uh...good luck12:19
ladydoor:-)12:19
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bruenigsilent_scream, write the script, make sure it is executable then put it in the startup commands tab in system>preferences>sessions, if you don't know how to do any of those steps do ask12:19
Psych0tiClinuchsan, don't see any12:19
TheHarbinger667diseaser: yea, its also broken on a clean install with dist-upgrade12:19
ladydoorbruenig: zie wants it for *boot*12:19
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diseaserTheHarbinger667: once you run wpa_supplicant, run wpa_cli and type "help" at the command line to get a list of commands, then run some to see if the card works12:19
bruenigoh boot12:19
diseaserTheHarbinger667: ahh12:19
linuchsanok...so there is no port 80 with netstat12:20
larryoneI've got some network problems, I need to switch to a different network setup than the one I specified at install; what files do I need to edit???12:20
larryone/etc/hosts12:20
larryone/etc/networks12:20
bruenigsilent scream, the startup scripts are in /etc/init.d/ I suppose you could tinker with that. I have never really messed with that though12:20
silent_screamok bruenig  what i shall write in the script?12:21
larryonewhat others do I need to edit?12:21
TheHarbinger667diseaser: if i do a scan with wpa_cli.... i only see that 1 linksys router12:21
linuchsanPsych0tiC:what does dpkg -l |grep apache say?12:21
silent_screami mean should i write something in the beginning and in the and?12:21
TheHarbinger667i have no idea what's so special and why only THIS router is showing up12:21
TheHarbinger667its not even in my room12:21
TheHarbinger667and i know its not the strongest signal strenght12:21
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Over_Theredoes anyone know why one user using bash in a terminal have the files color coded and another user not have the color coded files when ls is run?12:22
Psych0tiClinuchsan, ii  apache2-common                        2.0.54-5ubuntu2                    next12:22
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bruenigsilent_scream I am very lacking in my script ability. I can do some simple things but nothing too complex. All my scripts start with #! /bin/bash as they are bash scripts but for boot I don't know12:22
jribOver_There: one user does not have LS_COLORS set?  check ~/.bashrc12:22
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Psych0tiClinuchsan, generation, scalable, extendable web se12:22
Psych0tiCii  apache2-utils                         2.0.54-5ubuntu2                    utility programs for webservers12:22
Over_Therein the home directory of that user?12:22
ComputerexThanks for the Help guys. Now its time to turn off the monitor, and drool till the download completes. Bye!12:23
Undoare very dumb questions allowed here ?12:23
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linuchsanOver_There: .bashrc12:23
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silent_screambruenig, if i make the script with the way you told me would it be executed when i log in to ubuntu?12:23
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bruenigsilent_scream, yeah right after login when gnome is loading12:23
jribOver_There: yes.  Usually, .bashrc just runs 'dircolors -b' to output the proper command to set LS_COLORS, so look for that in the one that is working.  Then, see if the one that isn't working is lacking that command12:23
jribUndo: sure12:23
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linuchsanPsych0tiC:where is apache212:24
birdfishAnyone here using Firestarter?12:24
Over_Thereok thanks12:24
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Psych0tiClinuchsan, /etc/12:24
birdfishI'm trying to figure out what settings I need to apply to my secondary ethernet card eth1 in order to get internet connection sharing to work12:24
silent_screamok then, thanx after  #! /bin/bash i will write my commands and in the end shold i write something?12:24
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linuchsanPsych0tiC:but not with dpkg -l12:25
Undojrib   thank you... i need to log on as root to change file permissions... is there a default password for root ?12:25
ShoeUnitedHello  :)12:25
bruenigsilent_scream, no12:25
jrib!root > Undo12:25
Psych0tiClinuchsan, how do you mean ?12:25
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nollidjwhat package contains the gdm theme "human" (and has the file /usr/share/gdm/themes/human/Human.xml)?12:25
bbrazilnollidj: ubuntu-artwork12:25
ShoeUnitedHaving a bit of a hiccup following the mplayer installation guide on the forums, need a bit of help.12:25
nollidjthanks12:25
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bbrazilnollidj: dpkg -S12:25
ShoeUnited!mplayer12:25
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer12:25
nollidjbbrazil: only searches in installed packages12:25
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.12:25
jribShoeUnited: are you using the mplayer packages from the repositories?  What is wrong?12:25
linuchsanPsych0tiC:what does apt-get install apache2 say?12:25
silent_screambruenig,  and then i make it executable by "chmod +x myscript" ?12:25
TheHarbinger667diseaser: any other ideas? :(12:25
bbrazilnollidj: apt-file12:25
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bruenigsilent_scream yeah12:26
J_Phello, anyone know thw repository for gizmo on dapper ?12:26
TheHarbinger667no errors from dmesg either12:26
birdfishright now, I have it set up for "Address: 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Gateway Address: ?"12:26
ShoeUnitedI downloaded mplayer from their site.12:26
birdfishShould the Gateway Address be the address of eth0?12:26
nollidjbbrazil: what gives you apt-file?12:26
birdfishIn order to get NAT-ing to work?12:26
bruenigshoeunited, why not install the mplayer in the repos?12:26
jribShoeUnited: using the packages from the repositories is a lot easier12:26
bbrazilnollidj: lets you search contents of all packages12:26
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nollidjgood, then12:26
ShoeUnitedAnd well, following this guide:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061     ---  I get to the part where it says type in 'make' and it doesn't recognize the command.12:26
nollidjthanks12:26
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linuxcrazyumm12:27
XenguyShoeUnited: install 'build-essential'12:27
bruenigshoeunited, is there any special reason you want the non repo one from mplayers website?12:27
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ShoeUnitedOh, lol I wasn't being contrary, I just found the guide after I downloaded mplayer.  lol12:27
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ShoeUnitedI didn't know it'd make a big difference. ^_^12:27
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Dr_Willis!info mplayer12:27
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB12:27
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AbstractIdiot!nftsd12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nftsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse12:28
ShoeUnited!ntfs12:28
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ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org12:28
bruenigShoeunited, it doesn't really make a big difference. But it is so much easier. To download and install mplayer and all of that setup all you have to do is "sudo apt-get install mplayer" that is assuming you have the multiverse repository enabled12:28
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Psych0tiClinuchsan, it installed apache2-mpm12:28
oscuroguys, I have a big problem, I don't know why, but lately this machine isn't connecting to the internet.12:28
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Psych0tiClinuchsan, it is working now... thanks :D12:29
ShoeUnitedbruenig: I wouldn't know how to check if it is enabled...12:29
MasqyHi all, If I by mistake ran an application from terminal, but not from screen, is there a way to move it to background somehow, and then regain control over it's stdin/out from screen?, something like Ctrl-Z, bg, disown procnum... screen... what next?12:29
oscuroI thought first it was the isp, but then I can see my neighbour, who I share connection with.12:29
bruenigshoeunited, try the command and see if it works12:29
linuchsanPsych0tiC:ok12:29
oscuroand he has connection.12:29
oscuroI look at the net configuration, and everything seems to be ok.12:29
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JairunCalothWhat version of the NVIDIA driver is in the Dapper repos?12:29
ShoeUnitedokey doke :)12:29
magus_xproblem solved :D12:29
bruenighere is a really simple guide shoeunited for enabling multiverse repo if it isn't enabled, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d37309612:29
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Psych0tiClinuchsan, how do I setup that my IP connects to the /www/ folder ?12:30
ShoeUnitedIt says "couldn't find package mplayer"12:30
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ShoeUnitedOk, I'll give thatl ink a shot. ^_^12:30
Psych0tiClinuchsan, I mean if I type in my ip, it's the same as if I typed in localhost12:31
Justin_How do you add a Window Manager to the GDM?12:31
nozorrooscuro: how exactly do you share the connection? dsl rouer?12:31
linuchsanPsych0tiC:with reading12:31
bruenigfollow that guide, after you have done that do "sudo apt-get update" to refresh your repos and then do "sudo apt-get install mplayer" again12:31
Ranbeehi, can someone tell me what the program which uses aptitude is called? i want to install it12:31
oscuronozorro, yes :(12:31
Justin_Like a homebrew not well known WM, that does not automatically set itself in?12:31
oscuroI don't know what's goin on.12:31
Psych0tiClinuchsan, it's much easier to ask :)12:31
oscuroI'm sure it's something with the linux, since for that downtime.12:31
ShoeUnitedok ty bruenig :)12:31
nozorrooscuro: now can you ping the router from your machine?12:31
oscurothe neighbour uses the internet.12:31
jribJustin_: check out /usr/share/xsessions/ but if you install a window manager from the repositories it should automatically be setup12:32
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oscuronozorro....I don't know how to do that.12:32
oscuroI'm learning.12:32
Justin_jrib, No this is a WM that I coded myself - and I am not sure how to attach the install to GDM yet ---- so I guess I need to manually edit a config file .. however I have no idea what that file is12:32
oscuroit has nothing to do with the the bandwidht full.12:32
nozorrooscuro: open System | Administration | Network Tools please12:33
oscurobecause I umpluuge12:33
oscurook12:33
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Xenguyoscuro: if you had Net connectivity at one point, then the key question becomes 'What changed' since then :-)12:33
nozorrooscuro: now go to he 'ping tab'12:33
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jribJustin_: you create a new .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/, use the ones that are there as templates.  The fluxbox faq has a really simple one too that you can use as a guide12:33
ShoeUnitedIt didn't have community nor multiverse12:33
linuchsanPsych0tiC:have you tried it?12:33
Justin_jrib, Yup seems like the solution - thanks :)12:33
Ranbeedoes adept use aptitude from the cli?12:33
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oscurowait I min.12:34
oscuroxeng... nothing weird as I remember12:34
jribJustin_: np12:34
TheHarbinger667diseaser: i'm gonna try installing everything from CVS12:34
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Over_Therejrib: i copyed the file over from a user that had the working colors in bash, but when i log in there are still no colors until i run the command "bash"12:34
TheHarbinger667i'll see if that works12:34
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TheHarbinger667and i'll report back later tonite12:34
TheHarbinger667cheers12:34
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oscuronozorro, I don't have "network tools"12:35
oscuroweird..12:35
bhwhat's the release that's going to follow dapper ?12:35
magus_xeddy12:35
magus_xsomething like that12:35
bhI haven't gotten many updates in dapper recently and I was wondering if that's because folks are working on something else now.12:35
Xenguybh: etch12:35
oscurosystem/admn/net12:35
Xenguygah12:35
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bhHow stable is etch ?12:35
Xenguyedgy12:35
bhedgy ?12:35
Xenguybh: I had a 'debian moment' ;-)12:35
reaperi need help people please12:35
brotherJohn1234hehe12:35
oscuro"connections", "general", "dns"....12:35
bhhow stable is it and what kind of improvements does it have ?12:35
reaperhow do i unistall edubuntu?12:36
oscuro"ethernet connection"12:36
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bhlike newer versions of KDE and friends ?12:36
jribOver_There: does the .bashrc set LS_COLORS?12:36
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nozorrooscuro: Wait wait !  it may have been moved to somwhere else in he menue ... you can  also open it from the terminal, entering 'gnome-nettools'12:36
oscuroaight :)12:37
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nozorrooscuro: does it start now?12:37
fabsofthi all, anyone has a hfc-pci card with misdn ?12:37
oscurowould you wait me a min?.... err I'm updating the apt-get :(12:37
Over_Therejrib: it has the command that you pointed out that should do it12:37
oscuro1 min to be exactly :|12:37
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jribOver_There: yep, how are you starting the terminal?12:37
Over_Therelogin into the server over ssh12:38
Xenguy.oO( edgy eft ? )12:38
ShoeUnitedOh, it worked wonderfully lol ^_^  Much easier.  lol12:38
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jribOver_There: ah ok, then .bashrc won't get sourced (I think).  Instead it will call, ~/.bash_profile.  The default ~/.bash_profile sources ~/.bashrc though.  Can you check the contents of ~/.bash_profile and see?12:38
bhjesus christ, 175 to be updated12:39
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bhpackages I mean12:39
Over_Thereno such file12:39
factotumis there somewhere i can select what daemons and services are launched at startup?12:39
ShoeUnitedAnd I was so proud of myself when I installed java and flash for firefox all by myself, it's almost embarrassing.  LOL12:39
factotumor would i have to just recompile a new kernel?12:39
jribOver_There: you can use /etc/skel/.bash_profile if you want12:39
brendonjtfactotum: system->admin->services12:40
Over_Thereok thanks again12:40
brendonjtfactotum: for your services that start up12:40
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oscurognome-nettools command not found nozorro!12:40
jribreaper: just format the partition you installed edubuntu on12:40
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Kerri want to install sisfb (sis framebuffer driver for my sis630 graphics chip) so i can get hardware acceleration on my laptop; but i'm way over my head when it comes to messing with the kernel; is there a way to simplify things - ie using module assistant?12:40
reaperum its on my base drive12:40
oscurouh12:41
BlackMageanyone know how I can get superuser priviliges? having some trouble installing Opera12:41
reaperi used symatic packeger to install it12:41
jrib!sudo > BlackMage12:41
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Dr_Willissudo operainstaller12:41
Dr_Willis!opera12:41
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:41
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BlackMagethanks12:41
oscuronozorro? :(12:41
jribreaper: oh, so you are using Ubuntu, and installed edubuntu-desktop?12:41
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Dr_WillisYou can install it with the synaptic thang. :)12:41
reaperya12:41
ne78Does "sudo su" works under ubuntu ?12:41
ShoeUnitedhmmm12:41
jribne78: yes, but use 'sudo -i' instead12:41
brendonjtDr_Willis:  yip  i have seen it in the repo's12:41
nozorrooscuro: be a bit patient please :-)  so install nettols please; anyway it should be part of the normal ubuntu install. otherwise, you could use the ping command from the terminal12:42
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ShoeUnitedmplayer says "unable to find simple control! 'PCM',012:42
reaperya jrib thats what i did how do i remove it?12:42
oscurook sir.12:42
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doppelganger__hey guys...   does gnome have the ability to let you change the font color on the taskbar?12:42
oscuroI'll see how to install that brb, and thanks a lot nozorro =)12:42
gratuithi, I'm using aterm, and when I start it, I get errors of the following type "aterm: can't load color "White", colorID = 17, (29)" If I try to specify any colors as options, the program aborts and does not run, any ideas on what I could do to fix this?12:42
ne78jrib: what is the effective difference ?12:42
doppelganger__i'm running into a problem with KDE not letting me change to anything from black, which makes my new black kicker totally useless12:42
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brendonjtDr_Willis:  sudo apt-get install opera12:43
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capnkewli am having Amarok Issues anyone aaround that can help?...12:43
nozorrooscuro: if you don't install it, enter 'ping your-router-address' in the terminal and tell me what happens12:43
jribne78: 'sudo -i' is basically the same as 'sudo su -'.  It will reset your environment12:44
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Mazingarohi12:44
ne78jrib: i see, i was reading the man page...12:44
ShoeUnitedHow do I install the essential codec pack is there an 'apt-get' thing for that?12:44
oscuronozorro, I'm so loser I don't what's my router address....12:44
brendonjtcapnkewl: what is the problem12:44
jribreaper: I don't know of an easy way to do it.  Maybe with deborphan after removing the edubuntu-desktop package12:44
doppelganger__is changing from kubuntu to ubuntu as easy as installing ubuntu-desktop?12:44
doppelganger__that'll be my last question12:45
nozorrooscuro: if you don't know that, then you can't connect to the Internet. Not even under Windows. I'm serious.12:45
capnkewlI am running Linspire with amarok and anytime i try and use it lately i keep getting Xine Errors12:45
reaperdeborphan????12:45
MazingaroI've got a problem with ubuntu 6.06: I cannot run X, I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and then startx to test it, but X answered only with an error like "device not found"... Any hints?12:45
jribdoppelganger__: yes, you will get GNOME.  But you will also still have kde12:45
sharperguydoppelganger__, kind of, it will intall kubuntu, but it wont remove ubuntu, so your menus might be a bit clittered12:45
sharperguy*cluttered12:45
oscurothe only thing I did in the past in order to connect to internet, was to enable the dhcp in the net configuration :(12:45
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doppelganger__what's the easiest tech way to get around having all the KDE crud and just having a plain jane ubuntu install?12:46
brendonjtcapnkewl: umm have you  tried reinstallin xine12:46
capnkewlapparently i exited on accident oops12:46
capnkewlyeah i have12:46
ne78A related question are kde package part of the main ubuntu or only part of the universe part ?12:46
capnkewlboth the amnarok xine engine and xine itself12:46
brendonjtcapnkewl: what about the codecs12:47
capnkewland now i cant get rid of Xine Player12:47
capnkewlthat may be above me i am a total Noob to linux12:47
capnkewland it makes me feel uber dumb12:47
capnkewl:)12:47
mjrdoppelganger__, probably apt-get --purge remove libqt3-mt would take rather most of the KDE stuff away with it12:47
brendonjtcapnkewl: where have you tried removing from term  or the gui?12:47
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penguinsuckershello12:47
capnkewlfrom GUI i have been using CNR12:47
nozorrooscuro: so do you have dhcp enabled now for the corresponding network device? Pls look under System | Administration | Networking12:48
penguinsuckerswhat is the command to switch between nvidia and xorg gl drivers?12:48
penguinsuckersor glx modules i mean12:48
oscuroyes sir.12:48
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capnkewland Xine isnt in my CNR although i installed it from there12:48
doppelganger__mjr: thanks man, i'll give it a whirl12:48
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parker` I am having problems booting linux distros on my computer. What happens is right after the kernel loads, the system seems to just freeze. On the ubuntu minimal install disc it loads the kernel and then goes to a black screen. On the Ubuntu live CD, it pops up the Ubuntu loading screen after loading the kernel and doesn't do anything at all until I reboot. I ran memtest for a few hours, no errors, I am using the box right now to talk to you, so wind12:48
nozorrooscuro: so please open terminal seor :-)12:48
parker`my hardware: AMD Athlon64 X2 4600+, ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition, 2x1GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 in dual channeled mode, GeForce 7900GT, 2x250GB SATA2 drives12:48
penguinsuckersmjr: those are my initials, give them back ;)12:49
oscurook lol12:49
mjrdoppelganger__, oh, that might take some non-kde stuff as well if you've installed qt apps12:49
brendonjtcapnkewl:hmm  thats weird12:49
mjrdoppelganger__, in that case removing kdelibs4c2a might be "safer"12:49
oscurodone12:49
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nozorrooscuro: pls. enter: 'ping localhost'12:49
capnkewlyeah i agree i have NO IDEA whats wrong i mean i loaded XMMS and then it worked for a little bit while XMMS was working but this is only happening in Amarok12:49
mjrbut of course, plain jane ubu doesn't have the qt libs either ;)12:49
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doppelganger__i'm just ticked that KDE won't let you change the font color on the taskbar....12:50
capnkewlalso even when i uninstall amarok it still keeps my collection when i reinstall12:50
incois there a easy way to make it so when i type /j #channel i dont need the # in xchat12:50
doppelganger__it's black, or nothing..12:50
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mjrpenguinsuckers, I'm kinda stuck with them12:50
ne78parker`: do you try the x86 or amd64 version ?12:50
capnkewllike i said linux is still WAY ABOVE ME!12:50
SixtyFoldjust curious, when ubuntu is loading for most of you, does the screen usually just so black with the little time mouse thing on the bottom right?12:50
nozorropls enter 'ping12:50
oscurothis appears "64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=25 ttl=64 time=0.118 ms12:50
oscuro"12:50
parker`ne78: amd6412:50
oscuroand keeps going like a thousand times :(12:50
nozorrooscuro: ok12:50
capnkewlmy winxp crashed (Lost user.ini) so i just put freespire on here and i have Ubuntu on my other box12:50
SixtyFoldthe the cd live was working fine, than i started to do a load and left it for a second and came back to this, ive never used ubuntu before though so im not sure...12:50
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SixtyFoldits definately processing information from the disc so i assume its loading but its just not showing specifics or anything12:51
nozorrooscuro: which device is sending out to the internet, the first one, i.e. eth0?12:51
penguinsuckersuser.ini isn't that the user's registry?12:51
ne78parker`: i would try to boot on console only, just to see if it realted to video12:51
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capnkewlkinda12:51
oscuroetho yes.12:51
oscurotha's the one.12:51
difetahey all, I have compiz running, and I'm wondering how I change the theme. I have the ccwd interface, but clicking on the themes does nothing. Any ideas?12:51
brotherJohn1234nozorro: mostly.12:52
parker`ne78: I tried.. I tried to do the gentoo minimal, and gentoo with the nox option12:52
capnkewlits the file that makes windows WORK apparently12:52
capnkewlwithout it you are fucked12:52
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sharperguy!languagew12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about languagew - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
sharperguy****!!!12:52
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sharperguy!language12:52
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:52
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oscuro156 packets transmitted, 156 received, 0% packet loss, time 155741ms12:52
oscurortt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.093/0.124/0.225/0.020 ms12:52
capnkewlok i will have to brb i have to go get my kids from daycare12:53
oscuroit's receiving packages then.12:53
capnkewlbbs12:53
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ShoeUnitedHelp with mplayer since they seem kinda dead.  LOL12:53
ne78parker`: can you boot without any graphic stuff (logo and such) to see the last line of kernel output ?12:53
nozorrooscuro: now enter 'sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces' in the terminal and tell me what it says about eth012:53
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linuchsancapnkewl: what about apt-get kids12:53
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oscuroyes sir.12:53
parker`ne78: going to go try a few things, bbs12:54
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louis__hi all - just reading the mail12:54
Axe_Hi, I have a few SMB mounts setup in fstab.  However when I boot my system all of my SMB mounts don't show, only my ntfs mounts.  I have to sudo mount -a for them all to show up; why is htis?12:54
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ne78Axe_: network ins't up ?12:55
kshow do I slice 42Gb file into pieces ?12:55
oscurodone12:55
ne78Axe_: are you using network manager ?12:55
oscurommm it's long.12:55
oscurobasicly12:55
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oscuro# The loopback network interface12:55
oscuroauto lo12:55
oscuroiface lo inet loopback12:55
oscuroand this...12:55
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oscuro# They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem.12:55
oscuromapping hotplug12:55
oscuroscript grep12:55
oscuromap eth012:55
Axe_ne78: do not know what that is; my net is ethernet and works automatically12:55
oscuroand this other.12:55
mjrks, split12:55
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nozorrooscuro, stop! i only want to know about eth0!!!12:56
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oscuro# The primary network interface12:56
oscuroiface eth0 inet dhcp12:56
oscuroauto eth012:56
anthonycan some one walk me through how to install this radeon 9700?! I've been trying to for the last seven hours and I've looked through every tutorial available and I still have NO idea12:56
Axe_ne78: could it be that when the mount -a is run in startup, my network has not been initialized yet?12:56
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oscurogeez! what's that?12:56
ne78Axe_: yes maybe12:56
Axe_Is there some way I could add a mount -a in startup routines that would  be after my network interface is initialized?12:56
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sethkAxe_, sure12:56
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ne78Axe_: but if your card is listed in /etc/network/interface i think it should works12:56
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sethkAxe_, simplest way is to add it at the end of the script that initializes your network interface12:56
ne78Axe_: otherwise with nework manager it's normal12:57
^DownI need some help. My laptop running ubuntu will play sounds, just won't play any audio in firefox, cdplayers, etc12:57
brendonjtanthony:  i am after the same as i have a similar card12:57
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oscuronozorro?12:57
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brendonjtanthony:  i am just using the default vga at the moment12:57
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Jack_Sparrow!mp312:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:57
ksmjr can i join it back ?12:58
Axe_sethk: Which would be where? :P12:58
anthonybrendonjt: it sucks.  I installed it successfully a while back, and I've completely forgotten how!12:58
mjrks, with cat12:58
mjrcat parts > whole12:58
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ksahha thanks12:59
sethkAxe_, usually in /etc/init.d12:59
ne78Axe_: do you have S45mountnfs.sh ? in /etc/rcS.d ?12:59
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Gun_SmokeAnyone with experience setting up a HP 2840?  I've got it to print, but I don't think it's configured correctly.  I have tried to follow the directions here.https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters12:59
brendonjtanthony:  hmm true01:00
larryoneI need to install a machine over a console01:00
larryonehow do I specify the lack of a framebuffer?01:00
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anonqwerty02I'm going away to school for a few months... is there any way to get my computer to email me my ip address periodically because it occasionally changes?01:00
anthonybrendonjt: I asked here and some gnarly bot gave me a link, and it worked brilliantly01:00
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linuchsanGun_Smoke:and what about scan to folder!!!01:00
ksmjr "/usr/bin/split: Output file suffixes exhausted"01:01
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ne78Axe_: i think mountnfs doesn't take cifs or smbfs, so just add it to /etc/init.d/networking at the end of start01:01
anthonybrendonjt: I'd damned if I can remember what it was though01:01
brendonjtanthony:  whats the link?01:01
larryonehow do I specify the lack of a framebuffer? from the boot prompt????01:01
Gun_Smokelinuchsan:  What about it?01:01
anthonybrendonjt: haha no idea01:01
nozorrooscuro: ok assuming your cables are ok and your machine is *not* connected to the router via usb, maybe it's really best to forget about dhcp and set it all up manually then. but you'd need to know the addresses then. -- sorry, i don't know much about the dncp innards of ubuntu, and it has failed on me several times ...01:01
ladydoorlarryone: do you want to turn off the bootsplash?01:01
damnedanthony: anyway you r damned.01:01
ne78Axe_: it's a hack this kind of problem will be resolved with the new upstart project i think01:01
linuchsanGun_Smoke:could be your next question01:02
oscuroit's ok nozorro.01:02
anthonydamned: damned to what?01:02
larryoneladydoor, bootsplash????01:02
oscuroyou helped me really much, I appreciate your attention.01:02
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larryoneI wantr to turn off the framebuffer01:02
ladydoor!bootsplash01:02
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Gun_Smokelinuchsan:  Well I'll get to that.. I would just like to get it set up properly.01:02
anthonydamned: damned to fowever trying to get linux to work01:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:02
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oscuroactually I have internet now, I jus hope this thing keeps like thatn =)01:02
ladydoorlarryone: that image at boot01:02
oscurothank you nozorro.01:02
larryone!framebuffer01:02
brendonjtanthony:  awe come on01:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about framebuffer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:02
Axe_Also, another thing.. I have two ntfs mounts, however only one of them is working at the moment01:02
damnedanthony: damned to using word damned :)01:02
Axe_Somtimes both will work.. sometimes only one01:03
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ladydoorlarryone: with *buntu at the top and startup info scrolling below it?01:03
anthonydamned: damn you damned01:03
Gun_Smokelinuchsan:  Do you have experience with the 2840?01:03
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nozorrooscuro: pues ya lo has resuelto? :-) -- pls. always check the config. of your dsl router, dhcp especially01:03
anthonyhahaha01:03
larryoneladydoor, I am connected over the console, I have no video card01:03
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oscurowhatever you say officer =D01:04
oscuroI'll keep reading linux stuff.01:04
ladydoorah. so that's why you want to turn off framebuffering?01:04
linuchsanGun_Smoke:the 2840 is rubbish01:04
oscuroI'm so noob.01:04
anthonybrendonjt: this was the link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:04
Gun_Smokelinuchsan:  why?01:04
larryoneyes01:04
TheGamelarryone: u dont have a video card?01:04
anthonyit probably will work01:04
larryoneI dont have a video card in my server01:04
anthonythank christ I backed it up eh?01:04
TheGameoh01:04
brendonjtanthony:  cheers mate having a look there  now01:04
ladydoorlarryone: i wasn't even aware that the ubuntu framebuffer worked other than for the bootsplash. i'm sorry, i don't know how to turn it off01:05
nozorrooscuro: happened to me as well, some years ago. and networking will always be somewhat difficult01:05
larryoneok01:05
linuchsanGun_Smoke:cause scan to folder doesn't work01:05
larryonethanks anyway01:05
larryoneI will continue to google01:05
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ladydoornp...good luck. does it mess up your computer somehow?01:05
oscuroI'm kinda confused since I left windows forever.01:05
oscurolol01:05
oscurobut I'm just going :/01:05
TheGame?01:05
Gun_Smokelinuchsan:  with linux?01:05
TheGamewhy did u leave windows01:05
Axe_Another question: All of my mounts currently show up on my desktop, but I only want some of them to; any way to change this01:06
ladydooroscuro: good fo you on leaving windows!01:06
linuchsanGun_Smoke:and windows01:06
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oscurothere's no a single bit of windows in this box yeah :)01:06
brendonjtanthony:  so i take it those drivers worked?01:06
anthonythey did01:06
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jribAxe_: I believe that if you don't mount them in /media, they won't show up on your desktop01:06
nozorrooscuro: you aren't serious, are you?01:06
oscuronozorro lol.01:06
Gun_Smokelinuchsan:  I haven't tried with windows.. Why wouldn't the feature work if its offered?01:06
anthonybrendonjt: as far as I remember I followed it to the letter01:06
oscuroit was a bad decision?01:06
ladydoornozorro: what's wrong with deleting windowz?01:06
Axe_whats the bash cmd for making a new folder01:07
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jribAxe_: mkdir01:07
nozorrooscuro: you'll see :-|01:07
TheGamemkdir01:07
Axe_thx01:07
oscuro...well apart of my brothers trying to kill me for the sudden change :/01:07
ShoeUnitedHey there I have a problem with my alsa driver. :/01:07
oscurolol01:07
brendonjtanthony:  cool  thanks  trying it now01:07
shawnr_Swiftfox question: im a loyal last.fm user. my problem is when i click on a station from their web site, i get a message saying "Firefox doesn't know hot to open this address because it isn't associated with any program...." but when i go into the list in prefs, it doesn't allow me to add a new associations... how can i fix this ?01:07
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matthewfwhats that command thats not find but does a similar job /01:07
HarksawIN Dapper 64, My onboard sound  (Think it's called a SigmaTel STAC9220) has about a quarter second delay. It's a little annoying during games. Anyone have any idea how I could fix it?01:07
TheGamewhy did u change oscuro01:07
anthonybrendonjt: I have attempted to reinstal them with loads of other stuff though, and so I'm going to reinstall linux01:07
strangywhy o why did i bought a PIONEER DVR-109 CD/DVD burner01:07
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ladydoormatthewf: locate01:08
tomasz27HI ALL01:08
jribmatthewf: locate, whereis?01:08
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linuchsanGun_Smoke:try it!01:08
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ShoeUnited!alsa01:08
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems01:08
matthewfthems the ones01:08
strangyand just now realized that its firmware makes havoc with growisofs01:08
Gun_Smokelinuchsan:  How about the scan to email?01:08
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strangyafter i ruined 4 DVDs01:08
strangy:)01:08
tomasz27where does firefox store bookmarks in Ubuntu?01:08
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oscurooh, well I thought I could get along with it, with some practice.01:08
oscuroas we did before with windows.01:09
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Axe_how do I demount something from a folder01:09
oscurojust matter of time.01:09
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jribtomasz27: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html01:09
jribAxe_: umount01:09
strangyAxe_, umout /path/to/foldeer01:09
tomasz27thnx01:09
ladydoortomasz27: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html01:09
anthonytomasz27: no idea: export them and you get a nice little html file with them in01:09
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Noumaanhow do I quickly get a list of all translateable packages on Ubuntu dapper01:09
oscuroanyways, "I'll try" to buy another hard disk with windows for my brothers.01:09
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TheGamey dont u just partition oscuro01:09
oscuroI did it.01:10
Axe_Nope.. it still shows up on the desktop01:10
TheGame?01:10
oscurobut01:10
tomasz27is there a new version of FLASH for Firefox in Ubuntu?01:10
rpedro_Noumaan: launchpad.net :)01:10
oscurothere was a problem.01:10
TheGameno tomasz2701:10
oscurouh.01:10
tomasz27ok01:10
TheGamewhat problem01:10
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exs_How do I take a screenshot?01:10
TheGameits in accessories exs_01:10
TheGameapp called Take Screenshot01:10
Gun_Smokeexs_:  Printscreen01:10
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shawnr_Does anyone know how to associate programs with links in firefox?01:10
TheGameor u can press printscreen01:10
oscuroI'm an idiot I messed up up the system.01:11
Noumaanrpedro_:  launchpad isn't very google friendly01:11
sean_I found a .sys file I use for ndiswrapper, which works. Can bcm43xx-fwcutter use it?01:11
oscuroit didn't load windows, or linux.01:11
TheGameso fix it oscuro01:11
oscuronothing.01:11
TheGamefirst install windows01:11
oscuroI fixed it.01:11
oscurothe solution was. hey let's just install linux..01:11
TheGameo01:11
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cafuegosean_: maybe. The prepackaged firmware files will work, though.01:11
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Redrose!ubot01:12
Axe_Also is there a way to change what the mounted folder is called on the desktop01:12
oscuromy hard disk is 20 gb.01:12
Noumaani am facing another problem i need to know how to authenticate and join a domain on windows network from my ubuntu client01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
oscurosucks.01:12
Axe_say from "/mnt/win1" to "Windows Drive 1"01:12
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Redrose!ubot video01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubot video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
TheGamewhat r u trying to do Axe_01:12
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Redrose!video01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
sean_cafuego: thanks01:12
rpedro_Noumaan: what are you trying to do?01:12
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oscurohey guys, thanks.01:12
oscurothanks nozorro!01:12
oscurobbl01:12
RedroseCan anyone recommend video editing software for ubuntu?01:12
TheGamekino01:12
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Axe_TheGame: I have my windows drives mounted and they are sitting on my desktop. I'd like them to not show up on my desktop and to be called something sane like "Windows Drive 1" instead of "/mnt/win1"01:13
rpedro_Noumaan: I guess you check the installed files in synaptic for the 'language-pack*' for you r language01:13
TheGamei can tell you how to get rid of them01:13
Iceman_2kThe need to release Battlefield 2 for Linux01:13
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shawnr_Anyone ?01:13
Noumaanrpedro_: good01:13
TheGamenot sure shawnr_01:13
TheGameAxe_:  do this01:13
Axe_Ah that will help01:13
Noumaanrpedro_:  and what about my networking troubles01:13
TheGameopen up gconf-editor01:13
Axe_ok01:13
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RedroseIceman_2k, Get Cedega01:14
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TheGamenow go to apps01:14
Redroseitll let you play your windows games on linux01:14
Redrose!Cedega01:14
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega01:14
TheGamethen nautilus01:14
linuchsan!bill01:14
TheGamethen desktop01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
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TheGametell me when ur there01:14
linuchsan!gates01:14
Axe_I do'nt see it here01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
rpedro_Noumaan: don't know much about samba, rarely use it...01:14
rpedro_!samba01:14
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:14
TheGamewhat do u not see01:14
Axe_"desktop"01:14
linuchsan!killall ubotu01:14
Axe_I found it though01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about killall ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
Axe_its under nautilus01:14
rpedro_Noumaan:^^ maybe it has the answer to your question01:14
TheGameya thats what i said01:15
Iceman_2kRodrose hate those subscription programs. Maybe WINE, but repeated paying for something01:15
Axe_oih haha01:15
TheGameok now uncheck volumes_visible01:15
treitteris there a "best practice" for a package that only _partially_ conflicts with another? (ie, overwriting one of its config files)?01:15
TheGamenow u wont get the icons on the desktop01:15
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RedroseIceman_2k, the site it gave you has the version you don't have to pay for01:15
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linuchsan!whois ubotu01:16
ubotuwhois: the GNU whois client. In component main, is optional. Version 4.7.11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 28 kB, installed size 252 kB01:16
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TheGamedid that work Axe_01:16
dannylaptwhat is the command to mount a cdrom? I tied one way but must have got it wrong01:16
Redroseit's a CVS build... when you pay for Cedega, you are basically paying for the precompiled binaries, but with the site it gives you, put in a little work and you will get it01:16
Iceman_2kRedrose I've used wine, whats preformance like though ?01:16
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Axe_TheGame: Do I have to update something?01:16
Axe_They are still there atm01:16
RedroseGreat, runs like it's on windows01:17
ladydoordannylapt: does it not mount automagically? and what command di dyou use?01:17
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grexkmorning everyone01:17
ladydoorRedrose: so it crashes a lot?01:17
ladydoor:-(01:17
TheGameu may have to log out and log back in01:17
ladydoor(based on my experience, at least)01:17
Axe_ok01:17
SonicChaoHow do I install RPM?01:17
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ladydoorSonicChao: get the package alien01:17
Redroselol, let...01:17
TheGameSonicChao: you need to install alien01:17
XenguySonicChao: normally you shouldn't have to01:17
linuchsandannylapt: mount /dev/cdrom /where/to/mount01:18
SonicChaoladydoor and TheGame: Thanks. =)01:18
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dannylaptLadydoor: I used mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom. And no it does not mount automatically. Im using 6.06 Server.01:18
redcardSo does anyone here use xchat-gnome?01:18
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TheGamei do redcard01:18
SonicChaoredcard: Why use xchat-gnome?01:18
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redcardTheGame: How do you make the OSD / Notification stuff work?01:19
viatori use regular xchat01:19
TheGameactually it might just be xchat01:19
SonicChaoviator: So do I.01:19
TheGamehmm01:19
TheGamenot sure redcard01:19
ladydoordannylapt: oh...did you do it with sudo?01:19
TheGameif u look through the options im sure u can find it01:19
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mlehrerwhich repository has openssh-server01:19
mlehreris it in universe?01:19
viatorlatr01:20
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dannylaptladydoor: Yes. It looks like it mounts but when u go to extract a tar file on the CD using "tar xvfz FILENAME.tar.gz, It scrolls errors saying it cant write.01:20
jrib!info openssh-server01:20
ubotuopenssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB01:20
SonicChaoHow do I install rpm with package alien then?01:20
jribmlehrer: it's in main it seems01:20
jribSonicChao: what are you trying to install?01:21
SonicChaojrib: LimeWire.01:21
jrib!limewire01:21
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.01:21
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sean_cafuego: I tried both the firmware packages and extracting the firmware -- ifconfig does not mention anything other than the ethernet card and lo. Am I doing something wrong?01:21
SonicChao!FrostWire01:21
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire01:21
TheGameSonicChao:01:21
TheGamei suggest installing blackdown java01:21
TheGameand then frostwire01:21
ladydoordannylapt: oh, it's mounted. try this tar xvfz filename.tar.gz > ~/filename, or copying it to your home dir fist01:21
ladydoor*first01:22
SonicChaoOk, let's see FrostWire first then...01:22
cafuegosean_: What does 'lspci' say about the wific ard?01:22
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chuckypI love it the 686 image is still f'd up.01:22
ladydoordannylapt: you can't just write to a cd like that without a program as an intermediary01:22
TheGameSonicChao: frostwire is the same thing as limewire its just blue instead of green01:22
sean_cafuego: it mentions it01:22
SonicChaoTheGame: Ok.01:22
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cafuegosean_: What does it say _exactly_01:22
dannylaptladydoor: alright, Thank you.01:23
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sean_cafuego: um -- let me see if I can paste01:23
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cafuegoJust the one line01:23
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sean_cafuego: okay01:23
SonicChaoThanks! =301:23
sean_cafuego: just a second01:23
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SonicChaoIt had a .deb, FrostWire anyway.01:23
ladydoordannylapt: np, did it work?01:24
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yangobest HTML editor, IYHO? (in ubuntu repositories)01:24
shannoncafuego: I'm SeanTater's laptop01:24
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shannoncafuego: 0000:08:07.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)01:24
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Xenguyyango: vim (ducks)01:24
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shannoncafuego: um -- that would be sean_'s laptop01:25
cafuegoOk, it's a 4318. You need to go to the bcm43xx page on the wiki and hop through the hoops to make a 4318 work.01:25
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SonicChaoyango: bluefish ?01:25
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BlackMageI'm trying to watch a dvd on Totem, but I get this error message "No URI handler implemented for "dvd"."01:25
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dangsoncan someone tell me how to edit entries in the apps menu?01:25
TheGamedangson:01:25
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TheGamego to accessories01:25
TheGamethen a la carte01:26
yangoSonicChao: it seems so... I'm looking for something better though :(01:26
ladydoor!libdvdcss > BlackMage01:26
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killownhow I install mplayer with apt-get?01:26
BlackMagethanks01:26
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jribkillown: first enable multiverse, then: sudo apt-get install mplayer01:26
Xenguyyango: nvu is WYSIWYG01:26
jrib!multiverse > killown01:26
dangsonTheGame, ahh, thanks. so obvious :D01:26
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SonicChaojrib: Is it ok that I installed it with GDebi Pkg Installer?01:26
TheGamenp01:26
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jribSonicChao: that's perfectly fine (you are referring to frostwire right?)01:27
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bean-ohyango, vim ;)01:27
SonicChaojrib: Yes01:27
SonicChaojrib: But, it's giving me errors from terminal01:27
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linuchsankillown:and after do an apt-cache search first, for cpu.01:27
killown?01:28
jribSonicChao: did you install a JRE?01:28
shannoncafuego: any specific places I mught start at (thare are a lot of ones mentioned all over the wiki page)01:28
linuchsankillown:and after do an apt-cache search mplayer01:28
SonicChaojrib: I have Java01:28
yangobean-oh: emacs :P01:28
jhbhi *. I have enough space for ubunut on my x31, I already run windows and debian. I would like to install ubuntu, have no cdrom, no floppy. What to do?01:28
SonicChaojrib: I got it with EasyUbuntu01:28
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ladydoorjhb: do you have usb?01:28
jribSonicChao: ok, Sun Java, right?01:28
SonicChaojrib: Yes01:28
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jhbladydoor: not really01:29
shannoncafuego: eureka!01:29
jhbladydoor: as in: never managed to boot from my usb stick01:29
shannoncafuego: ifconfig found it01:29
ladydoorjhb: ah. sorry, no idea then01:29
cafuegoshannon: cool :-)01:29
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jribSonicChao: copy your errors to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link please01:29
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jhbladydoor: maybe I could use my usb backup harddisk?01:29
SonicChaojrib: Ok01:29
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killownlinuchsan I not found repository with mplayer01:29
Axe_yes01:30
Axe_it worked01:30
linuchsanshannon:not tonight01:30
jhbladydoor: if I get it to run, just look under usb installation?01:30
jhbladydoor: I assume?01:30
killownlinuchsan help - me01:30
SonicChaojrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2192201:30
SonicChaojrib: It says no Java, but RuneScape works...01:30
killownlinuchsan help - me of repository01:30
jribSonicChao: ok, run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and make sure you have Sun Java selected01:31
killownlinuchsan help - me of repository with mplayer01:31
ladydoorjhb: i guess so01:31
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Jack_Sparrow!patience01:31
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ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:31
jhbladydoor: thx01:31
ladydoorjhb: can you netboot somehow? or is there a way to boot an iso on your computer?01:31
jribkillown: did you get the message from ubotu about multiverse?01:31
linuchsankillown: first you have to set the multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list01:31
SonicChao      1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.101:31
SonicChao*+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java01:31
SonicChao      3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java01:31
SonicChaojrib: That's confusing me01:31
Axe_Okay but still, when I boot my system my four samba shares are not working01:32
jhbladydoor: I will have to to the bios to check on that01:32
Axe_I have to sudo mount -a01:32
jribSonicChao: press 3 then enter01:32
ladydoorjhb: oh01:32
jhbladydoor: to go to01:32
SonicChaoUsing `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java' to provide `java'.01:32
kill4killinHey, im having a problem installing freevo on dapper drake. I followed the install instructions, however, when i run 'python setup.py install' it tells me that i dont have mmpython. So i download mmpython and it wont install either...can someone help me figure out whats going on?01:32
SonicChaojrib: Is that right?01:32
ladydoor:-(01:32
jribSonicChao: yes, now try froswtire one more time01:32
jhbladydoor: so I reboot now, just a couple of mins01:32
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ladydoorjhb good luck01:33
jhbladydoor: thx01:33
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ladydoorkill4killin: is there a libmmpython-dev?01:33
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ladydoorkill4killin: or an mmpython-dev?01:33
kill4killinlemme see one second01:33
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kill4killinwould that be in the directory that the mmpython is in?01:33
SonicChaojrib: ty!01:33
jribSonicChao: np01:33
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kill4killinor would it be something i need to get like an apt get or something01:34
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edgarinHi to all01:34
edgarinI have a problem with my ubuntu and firefox01:34
kill4killinwhat is it, maybe we can help01:34
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ali1234hi. i've got a problem with vdr. i configured it all but when i run it from init.d it just quits after 5 seconds. runs okay when i run it on console. nothing enlightening in syslog. any ideas?01:35
lufisHi. I want to install some truetype fonts. Where are they kept, and does any command need to be run to refresh the list/register them?01:35
kill4killinladydoor, there doesnt appear to be anything called either libmmpythong-dev or mmpython-dev on my hard drive01:35
jrib!fonts > lufis01:36
Jack_Sparrow!fonts01:36
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto01:36
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ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer01:36
ladydoorkill4killin: i meant in the repos01:36
kill4killino, one moment01:36
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lufisThank you jrib. Give ubuto a treat for me01:36
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jrib!botsnack01:37
ubotuYum!01:37
kill4killinladydoor, there does not appear to be anything. I had to get mmpython file from sourceforge01:37
kill4killini tried to apt-get it, but i was unable to find it that way01:37
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fiendskull9how do i copy all the files in a directory (without copying the folder full of files)01:38
ali1234fiendskull9: huh? explain what you want more clearly :)01:39
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JimmeyI've heard that ATI isn't great on Linux - How much worse would a supported ATI be than a supported nVidia one?01:39
fiendskull9i want to copy the files in ~/foo01:39
fiendskull9to /usr/local/share/foo01:39
fiendskull9but the directorys have names like BLAHHHHH and horsies01:39
ladydoorkill4killin: hm. is there an option somewhere to specify the location of mmpython?01:39
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rixxonhow to get gossip working with gmail01:40
fiendskull9i want to cop the files in BLAHHH to horsies01:40
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parker`hey, is there a way to load ubuntu with framebuffer off? I didn't see the option on my AMD64 livecd01:40
ladydoorfiendskull9: do you want to copy *everything from ~/BLAHHH to /usr/local/share/HORSIES?01:40
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fiendskull9yessir01:40
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ladydoorfiendskull9: *lady* door. it's not sir01:40
ShoeUnited.asoundrc is missing a reference to pcm on my SB Audigy SE card, is there a repos or something to fix it?  A link?  help?01:40
kill4killinno that i know of. According to the README in the folder, all i need to do is 'python setup.py install' but whats funny is that i need mmpython to install mmpython... o.o01:40
cleeanybody else seeing broken fonts in edgy?01:40
fiendskull9yessum :)01:40
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ladydoorfiendskull9: sudo cp ~/BLAHHH/* /usr/local/share/horsies01:41
jribclee: are you using unofficial repositories?  For compiz maybe?01:41
StoneNoteclee,  #ubuntu+101:41
fiendskull9the edgy alpha/beta is out already!?01:41
ladydoorfiendskull9: lol01:41
cleejrib: nope01:41
JimmeyShoeUnited, try apt-cache search pcm01:41
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ladydoorfiendskull9: still in heavy development01:41
cleeStoneNote: thanks01:41
ShoeUnitedok ty Jimmey01:41
fiendskull9figures01:41
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JimmeyShoeUnited, let me know what it says01:41
StoneNoteclee, yw01:41
fiendskull9seems like dapper is still catching on01:41
fiendskull9lol01:41
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fiendskull9i remember the minute it was released01:42
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fiendskull9we all did the wave in here01:42
fiendskull9lol01:42
ladydoorfiendskull9: it'll be supported longer than the other releases, though, dapper will01:42
kill4killinit cought on to me really fast :D I love it ever since i moved to it from sarge debian01:42
ShoeUnitedok01:42
gregwhats a good tv veiwing app?01:42
grexkgreg: mythtv01:42
linuchsangreg:tvtime01:42
grexk!mythtv01:42
ubotumythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/01:42
linuchsangreg:tvtime01:43
ladydoorgreg: the television :-)01:43
gregneither of those worked01:43
linuchsangreg:tvtime01:43
grexkladydoor: lol01:43
grexk!youtube01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about youtube - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
ali1234greg: how bout mplayer then?01:43
killownI not found package mplayer in apt-cache01:43
ShoeUnitedO.o01:43
parker`hey, is there a way to load ubuntu with framebuffer off? I didn't see the option on my AMD64 livecd01:43
ShoeUnitedThere's a lot here....01:43
JimmeyShoeUnited, I'll take a look01:44
ali1234greg: the default app for testing is xawtv... if that doesn't work something's wrong with your configuraition01:44
kill4killinladydoor, you got any more ideas? I really need this thing to work, but it seems rediculous01:44
ladydoorparker`: does its framebuffer work? why does it matter if it's on?01:44
gregive tried xawtv kdevtv tvime and mythtv01:44
ShoeUnitedK.01:44
linuchsangreg:so01:44
mark_!democracy01:44
ladydoorkill4killin: :-(...search in the repos for python and just see what comes up? sorry, i really don't know01:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:44
gregnone worked01:44
mark_!democracy tv01:44
gnomefreakkillown: make sure you have the multiverse repos enabled01:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about democracy tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:44
ali1234greg: is it analogue or digital tv?01:44
linuchsangreg:dmesg will work01:45
JimmeyShoeUnited, usually, when I get a "Factor X is missing. Can't install!" message, I apt-cache search factorX, and then randomly install what looks right.01:45
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parker`ladydoor: because linux distros won't load on my comp unless I disable framebuffer.. most live CDs have a separate kernel for it, like gentoo comes with gentoo and gentoo-nofb for people with framebuffer issues, it happens with newer video cards01:45
ladydoorShoeUnited: and also look for factorX-dev01:45
grexkkill4kill: can I help01:45
linuchsangreg:will give you all the problems01:45
ShoeUnitedJimmey:  http://pastebin.com/77839201:45
ladydoorparker`: oh...01:45
ladydoor!livecd01:45
ubotuUbuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.01:45
kill4killinladydoor, thank you for your time. Do you know of any programs that might be able to play a dvd? I have tried mplayer, gxine, totem and vlc and none of them work01:45
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ladydoorkill4killin: do you have the non-free dvd codeces installed?01:46
gregi just want my tunercard to work on ubuntu01:46
gnomefreak!restricted > kill4killin01:46
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greghappuage wintv-go-plus01:46
kill4killini installed all the proprietary ones i believe01:46
ladydoorparker`: sorry...you might search for ubuntu boot options01:46
gnomefreakkill4killin: the info is on the link ubotu sent you01:46
linuchsangreg:so what does dmesg say01:46
kill4killinyea, i installed all the restricted, thats what they are called01:46
gregwhat part u want?01:46
killowngnomefreak I not found it in source.list01:46
ShoeUnitedFactorX-dev doesn't display anything.01:46
ladydoorkill4killin: do you have libdvdcss?01:46
kill4killingnomefreak, thats what i looked at, i got ALL of those codecs and it still doesnt work01:47
gnomefreakkill4killin: did you set teh region?01:47
kill4killingnomefreak, what?01:47
gnomefreakkillown: you need to enable multiverse repo01:47
linuchsangreg:mybe something with your tv card?01:47
kill4killinladydoor, i can seem to find it01:47
killowngnomefreak as I do?01:47
kill4killincant*01:47
greg[17179592.436000]  tveeprom 2-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)01:47
greg[17179592.436000]  tveeprom 2-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)01:47
greg[17179592.436000]  tveeprom 2-0050: audio processor is None (idx 0)01:47
greg[17179592.436000]  tveeprom 2-0050: decoder processor is BT878 (idx 14)01:47
greg[17179592.436000]  tveeprom 2-0050: has no radio, has IR remote01:47
ladydoorkill4killin: aha...i think you need it to play encoded dvds01:47
gnomefreakkill4killin: you might need to set the regoin please read that page it should tell you how01:47
gnomefreakgreg: dont paste in here use pastebin01:48
kill4killingnomefreak, i shall read it once more and see if i missed anything01:48
greg?01:48
gnomefreak!repos > killown01:48
kill4killinladydoor, do you know where i could find it?01:48
ladydoor!paste > greg01:48
gnomefreakkillown: please read your pm01:48
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linuchsangreg:and lsmod |grep tv01:49
gregk01:49
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gregi do pate thing right?01:50
gregpaste*01:51
chuckypAnyone know a good utility to capture video of your desktop?01:51
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grexk!istanbul01:51
ubotuistanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 65 kB, installed size 344 kB01:51
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fiendskull9chuckyp: been there done that, and there really isnt one01:51
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linuchsangreg:lsmod |grep tv ,in the console01:51
ali1234chuckyp: there's a couple of solutions which record a vnc session, but they are not great01:51
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fiendskull9chuckyp: i know theres a way to make a shell script that takes a picture of your desktop ever second or so, and you can put them together01:51
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greg?01:52
linuchsangreg:have you got mplayer installed01:52
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Xenguychuckyp: 'wink' might run thru wine01:52
chuckypali1234, well I was checking out xvidcap which seemed to be what I wanted.  But i'm having problems with their debian package and some old dependecies.01:52
gregi did it at the command thing and used pate thingy01:52
gregpaste*01:52
ShoeUnitedI think my pastebin link killed Jimmey01:52
ali1234chuckyp: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~bsd/vncrecording.html01:52
linuchsangreg:                   lsmod |grep tv01:53
gregmplayer isnt installed01:53
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dainserver irc.freenode.net01:53
greglinuchsan: ive done that01:53
grexkchuckyo: screenkast01:53
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ali1234greg: after you pasted it into pastebin, you have to send us the link...01:53
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chuckypI guess I can just install the older libpng2 and libpng10-001:54
ShoeUnitedgreg:  www.pastebin.com  ^_^01:54
jake1bleh01:54
chuckypand get xvidcap runing01:54
greghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2192401:54
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jake1anyone know what site gives the list of wirless cards supported by ubuntu01:54
jake1??????01:54
ladydoor!wireless01:54
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:54
jake1hehe01:54
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jake1shoulda thought of that01:54
ladydoorjake1: meh01:55
ShoeUnited!.asoundrc01:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about asoundrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:55
ladydoorchuckyp: use the import function provided by imagemagick01:55
ShoeUnited:/01:55
ladydoorchuckyp: maybe01:56
ladydoorchuckyp: (for the screenshots)01:56
linuchsangreg:can you install mplayer01:56
gregk i got mplayer insTALLED NOW01:56
ladydoorOK01:56
ladydoor*OKAY01:56
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gregsrry capslock01:56
ladydoorlol01:56
ShoeUnitedlol ladydoor01:56
chuckypladydoor, nah I want to capture directly to mpeg instead to jpg or picture captures.01:56
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ladydoorchuckyp: ah. no idea.01:57
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^DownCan someone help me out with this problem with GTKPod? http://pastebin.com/77839801:57
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gregso what do i do w/ mplayer to play tv?01:58
sean_cafuego: it got no further01:58
linuchsangreg:what is yor country01:58
gregusa01:58
chuckypWell I found an article that goes through it all but its down.  Just lovely01:58
sean_caf it found the device and then I had to plug it back in(away from the ethernet's cord reach01:58
lostincHow do you configure Totem to play DVDs once you have downloaded, compiled, and installed libdvdcss??01:58
linuchsangreg:ok01:59
jrib!dvd > lostinc01:59
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eXistenZWhat is the equivalent program for Outlook in ubuntu?01:59
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jriblostinc: I'm not sure, but the dvdcss package seems to do it automatically02:00
gregthunderbird02:00
bean-oheXistenZ, evolution02:00
ladydooreXistenZ: mutt02:00
eXistenZbean-oh, evolution > thunderbird?02:00
grexkchuckyp: try motion02:00
grexk!motion02:00
ladydooreXistenZ: it's all a matter of opinion02:00
ubotumotion: V4L capture program supporting motion detection. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.3-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1389 kB, installed size 3652 kB02:00
ladydoor!best02:00
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.02:00
bean-ohthunderbird is to outlook express as evolution is to outlook02:00
^DownCan someone help me out with this problem with GTKPod? http://pastebin.com/77839802:00
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ShoeUnitedlol nice addition to the bot.02:01
linuchsangreg:what does    mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:norm=ntsc tv://   say02:01
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bean-oheXistenZ, ladydoor i was referring to the exchange support in evolution02:01
XenguyeXistenZ: if speed is important (on slower hardware), then 'sylpheed'02:01
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ali1234evolution is slow, and it's password prompts wont go away unless you kill it (eg, if you accidently clicked a mailto: in firefox)02:01
chuckypI'm trying to find a google cache of this article02:01
greg it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2192502:02
ShoeUnitedI loved that game sylpheed, anyway, still having problems with .asoundrc02:03
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linuchsangreg:type amixer cotrols02:04
jcapotehow can i restart/reinstall my powermanager? the one on my laptop seems hosed, it says that my battery has 0% power and it shows the ac cord over it, even though its not plugged it and i left it charged all day02:04
linuchsangreg:type amixer controls02:04
iJeffCan anyone help me with getting an external monitor to work on this laptop running ubuntu with an old 7500 ATI Mobility card?02:04
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bhwhat's the best way of upgrading to edgy from dapper ?02:04
greglinuchsan:where?02:04
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bhor is that even recommended ?02:04
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ladydoorjcapote: what's the output of acpi02:05
ladydoor?02:05
linuchsangreg:in console02:05
ladydoorbh: that would be a downgrade02:05
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jcapote     Battery 1: discharging, 0%,  remaining02:05
jcapoteright now its on battery02:05
bhladydoor oh really ? edgy is a downgrade ?02:05
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lostincI installed Totem-Xine now and when attempting to play a DVD it asks if I am trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss. I have compiled and installed libdvdcss from source any ideas why Totem-Xine cant find it?02:05
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ladydooroh! i thought you said *from* edgy02:05
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gregu want to see it?02:06
ladydoorbh: oh! i thought you said *from* edgy02:06
mineraleI just added an entry to my hosts file, when i type 'host neweentry' it does not come up? how can I flush the dns cache ?02:06
ladydoorbh: but edgy is still in heavy development02:06
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DylanREAre the build-essential tools not available for edgy?02:06
linuchsangreg:what is the numid for Capture Source?02:06
ladydoorbh: unless you'e a developer, you probably shouldn't install it at all yet02:06
greg2002:07
jcapoteladydoor: also the lightning bolt symbol on the front of my battery is blinking as if it had no power02:07
jcapotei mean my laptop, not my battery*02:07
mineraleanyone know how I can have the networking whatever reread the /etc/hosts file ?02:07
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bhladydoor yeah, I made that mistake already and my packaging dependencies are screwed up right now.02:07
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BlueEaglebh: Since edgy is beta software then the quality of the application and the distribution as a whole might be concidered degraded. Also the amount of testing needing to be done to make sure that there are no security holes also might suggest that the security of edgy is degraded. Wether or not that is enough to condicer edgy a 'downgrade' is a matter you might debate. Further edgy discussions might be carried on in #ubuntu+1 which is the correct channel f02:07
brendonjtso far what is new in eadgy?02:07
linuchsangreg:amixer cget numid=20 what does it say?02:07
ali1234minerale: should not be necessary. are you sure you put it in right?02:08
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ladydoorbh: ...so you're in edgy right now?02:08
bhBlueEagle oh ok.02:08
ali1234minerale: unless you type the host command on another machine on your net, of course02:08
bhladydoor I tried to dist-upgrade but it failed.02:08
bhso the system is now in a state that's half broken02:08
ladydoorBlueEagle: i misread hir post02:08
ladydoorBlueEagle: which is where the "downgrade" question came in02:08
bhmostly kde dependencies and a couple of other things are hosed.02:08
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greghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2192702:09
bhI'm mostly looking for the latest KDE and GNOME packages.02:09
ladydoorbh: i would ask out loud and maybe post on the forums...02:09
bhI know I can recover, but it's going to be a pain in the ass02:09
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justin_bh -apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:10
BlueEagleladydoor: I still would argue that edgy at this point is a downgrade and that edgy discussions is more appropriate in #ubuntu+1 also regarding attempts to undo the change in distribution.02:10
jcapoteladydoor: any idea?02:10
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jcapoteladydoor: is there another way to see how much battery i have remaining?02:11
ladydoorjcapote: honestly...no. i'm sorry :-(02:11
ladydoor*i don't know02:11
greghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2192702:11
mineraleali1234: well I'm overwriting a prior entry02:11
jcapotemaybe via dev somewhere?02:11
ali1234jcapote: look in /proc/acpi02:11
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ali1234jcapote: but it's probably wrong there too02:11
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brendonjtwhat irc clients are people using here?02:11
greggaim02:12
bean-ohxchat02:12
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ladydoorirssi02:12
devhenxchat02:12
darkbutterflyhey02:12
jbroomeirssi02:12
Dr_Willisxchat 2.4 :)02:12
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brendonjtok  as i tried xchat-gnome  and it crashed my system big time02:12
Eusebushum both02:12
darkbutterflyi use xchat-gnome02:12
justin_jcapote: They have a program on source forge for that sort of thing.02:12
EusebusI use Xchat and irssi02:12
brendonjtso i had to go  back to bitchx02:12
justin_brendonjt: Yes, Xchat gnome is bad.02:13
darkbutterflyi like it02:13
jcapoteali1234: it is, i can get everything but present charge level...is there a way to read battery level that is not via acpi?02:13
justin_Get "xchat" minus the Gnome02:13
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greguse gaim02:13
ladydoorbrendonjt: ctcp version <user>02:13
jcapotecuz even at the hardware level, my laptop thinks it has zero battery02:13
devhenjcapote:  cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state02:13
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ladydoorbrendonjt: (with a /)02:13
jcapotedevhen: thats what i just did02:13
jcapoteits all on zero02:13
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devhenjcapote: or theres a battery monitor for the gnome panel. try that?02:14
jcapotedevhen: that uses acpi02:14
greglinuchsan:u ther?02:14
ali1234jcapote: acpi is the only way02:14
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ali1234jcapote: did it work before? did you boot with noacpi?02:14
brendonjti have just got a new motherboard and did a reinstall  haven't  tried a X version of a irc client02:14
ladydoorbrendonjt: just kidding...it's just /version, not /ctcp version02:14
jcapoteit was just out of the blue02:14
jcapotetoday02:14
herbalwhats the command for the xorg configurator thing?02:15
Eusebusdo you knox if there's a french chan about kubuntu?02:15
brendonjtladydoor:  awe thanks02:15
ladydoorbrendonjt: sorry...i'm trying to figure it out too...02:15
jcapotei would plug my laptop in and the gnome applet didnt change02:15
brendonjtladydoor:  thats  cool02:15
linuchsangreg:is the audio line external?02:15
jcapoteso i left it charging and its charged, cuz if it was as low as it thinks it was itd be off by now02:15
gregyes it is02:15
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linuchsangreg:from tv to audio02:16
gregit plugs into line in02:16
Jack_Sparrow!fr02:16
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:16
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herbalcould someone tell me the command for the xorg configurator thing? i need to completely redo my xorg02:16
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linuchsangreg:so it is on aux?02:16
brendonjti'm  just installing xchat  and i'll see how it goes02:16
brendonjtbrb02:16
NewtoUbuntuIs it possible to use just the Scanner and copier  of a scanner Printer Copier and print with a different Printer?02:17
jcapotebrb02:17
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jcapoteim going to go play around in the bios02:17
devhenherbal: gksudo emacs /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:17
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jcapotewhat is the benefit of boooting without acpi?02:17
grega courd like a computer speaker cord plugs from tunercard to soundcard02:17
herbalthere is an app though...with menus and stuff for it02:17
gregcord*02:17
linuchsangreg:ok02:17
ali1234jcapote: if you have a buggy acpi bios, your system wont crash02:17
herbali just forget the command02:17
jcapoteohi see02:17
ladydoorherbal: actually, you should probably use gedit instead, if you're not used to emacs...02:17
jcapotebut my machine is stable02:17
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linuchsangreg:amixer cset numid=20 402:18
jcapotebrb02:18
herbalim stuck on commandline lol02:18
jazzrockerand wouldn't it be gksudo xemacs ?02:18
justin_herbal: Stuck? - console rules friend :)02:18
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ladydoorjazzrocker: emacs has an optional windowed vesion02:18
herbalstuck in the sense that ide like to get xgl and stuff running but atm my xorg is compltely misconfigured and i need to redo it02:18
NewtoUbuntuI have a Printer/Scanner/Copier Combo however the printer is broken, is it possible to use just the Scanner and copier off that como and use a regular printer to print?02:18
greghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2192802:18
jazzrockerladydoor, called xemacs02:18
ladydoorjazzrocker: to just use it in the terminal, you need to do emacs -nw02:19
jazzrockeri see02:19
ladydoorjazzrocker: no, that's a separate program that split a long time ago02:19
brendonjtback  hehe that  better  looking02:19
Jack_Sparrowsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:19
vikBoth my monitor and graphics card can support 1152x864 res, but it doesn't show up as an option. I've dpkg-reconfigured xserver-xorg, and made sure it's in there, but gnome won't let me select it. Any ideas? I don't think it's in the VESA modes of the monitor, but it definitely can do that res.02:19
devhenjazzrocker: emacs has its own x-based windowed version. you dont need xemacs for it02:19
ladydoorjazzrocker: i use emacs, trust me on this one02:19
jazzrockergiven that emacs is more bloated than a walrus i wouldn't know :)02:19
jazzrockerdevhen, i see02:19
herbalty02:19
ladydoorjazzrocker: no religious debates, please02:19
brendonjtladydoor:  i just installed xchat  and hmm looks better02:19
NewtoUbuntuwill some1 help me or point me to a place where some1 Can hlep me?02:20
jazzrockerbrendonjt, what were you using before?02:20
ladydoorbrendonjt: sweet!02:20
brendonjtbitchx02:20
jazzrockerNewtoUbuntu, not unless you ask your question no02:20
Jack_Sparrowvik: did you install any drivers for your video card..  What video card..02:20
NewtoUbuntuive asked it02:20
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ladydoor!print02:20
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows02:20
jazzrockerNewtoUbuntu, oh i see, k02:20
justin_Emacs :)) - what a waste of code..02:20
ladydoorNewtoUbuntu: you might also check out the command gnome-volume-properties02:20
ali1234greg: have you actually tuned your card? linuchsan: why are you grilling him on audio mixers?02:20
jazzrockerjustin_++02:20
justin_Well I guess some people use it, but I stick to mousepad for text editing..02:20
ladydoor...02:20
linuchsangreg:and is LINE up when you type alsamixer in console?02:20
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vikJackSparrow: onboard intel 810 or something... it works, and works at 1280x1024.02:20
jazzrockerjustin_, what pad?02:20
NewtoUbuntuHow so ladydoor02:21
lgespeehello02:21
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ladydoorjustin_: the problem with mousepad is in its name:  mouse02:21
ladydoorlol02:21
lgespeemaybe this is a question much asked today and yesterday02:21
NewtoUbuntuhow would i do that ladydoor02:21
ladydoorNewtoUbuntu: type <alt>f2 gnome-volume-properties <enter>02:21
justin_ladydoor: :)) - yeah but it really is nice simple and small02:21
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Xenguyjustin_: it's a programmer thing AFAICT02:21
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Jack_Sparrowvik: it works at 1280 x 102402:21
greglinuchsan:i havn one anything but install apps02:21
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ladydoorjustin_: haha...i like a text editor that can browse the interweb :-)02:21
greghavnt*02:21
Jack_Sparrowvik: what are you trying to get..02:21
lgespeebut from the Ubuntu-NL leader we heard a rumour that upstart is going to be in Edgy, it's only not clear if it is going to be in main or not, is it or is it going to be a *verse thingy?02:21
devhenmousepad = text editor for xfce02:22
vikJack_Sparrow: I want 1152x86402:22
jazzrockerladydoor, and therein lies the difference02:22
justin_Not me I like my programs small and simple02:22
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justin_too much features = confusion02:22
ladydoorjazzrocker: lol02:22
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jazzrockersame reason i don't have a leatherman tool02:22
ladydoorjazzrocker: i don't even know what one is02:22
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brendonjtin xchat  is there a way to auto /msg nickerv .........  to identify  you02:22
linuchsangrep: have you installed xawtv?02:23
lgespeebrendojt, yeps02:23
fiendskull9hey02:23
jazzrockerladydoor, Leatherman(TM) <--- brand of multi tool/pocket knife/swiss army knife/pliers, wire cutters, scissors, screw driver etc etc02:23
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devhenladydoor: http://www.sprinkler.com/buy/leatherman :)02:23
lgespeebrendonjt: let me look it up for you02:23
fiendskull9im compiling gimpshop02:23
ladydoorlol02:23
fiendskull9and its saying it found 2 diff vers of glib02:23
Jack_Sparrowvik: Add the res you want to  gksudo gedit  /etc/x11/xorg.conf02:23
brendonjtthankss just having a look my self02:23
jazzrockernow a knife... that's a good thing to have02:23
lgespeebrendonjt: edit -> preferences -> networks -> freenode -> edit02:23
Jack_Sparrowvik: as long as you are sure your monitor supports it and you installed the correct drivers02:23
linuchsangrep: if you have, run scantv02:23
greghow do i tune it?02:23
ali1234greg: run tvtime-scanner (in a console)02:24
lgespeebrendonjt: Nickserv password02:24
jazzrockera "pocket knife" i don't know, that's starting to get sketchy02:24
lgespeebrendonjt: that's it ;)02:24
Jack_Sparrow!sudo02:24
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:24
gregive tried that02:24
Axe_How can I mount a regular disc image ISO to a folder02:24
ladydoorjazzrocker: yay! you said sketchy. i like that word02:24
gregtvtime scanner02:24
gregit found channels then crashed02:24
ladydoorAxe_: sudo mount /path/to/iso /path/to/folder02:24
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ali1234greg: and? start up tvtime... press i a few times02:24
linuchsangreg:run dmesg02:24
vikJack_Sparrow: It's already there, under the Screen Section. but Xorg.0.log says: (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x864" (no mode of this name)02:24
lgespeeladydoor: isn't the option -o loop needed?02:24
linuchsangreg:what does it say?02:25
ladydoorlgespee: is it? i honestly don't know...02:25
gregi dont have tv time anymore02:25
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lgespeeladydoor, let me look that one up too ;)02:25
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gregcause it was crashing02:25
brendonjtlgespee:  i just had a look  i've got settings-pref02:25
Jack_Sparrowvik: then you need to post your xorg to pastebin so someone can look it over.02:25
jazzrocker"whoa! I'm so leet! watch me browse the intarweb without pictures!"02:25
linuchsangreg:try scantv02:25
lgespeebrendonjt: open that one, and then select "Network(s)" from the list on the left02:26
ladydoorlgespee: if it is, let me know what it does. i didn't see it in the manual02:26
Jack_SparrowI am busy elsewhere..02:26
Axe_mount: /media/cdrom/starcraft.iso is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)02:26
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gregscantv invalid comand02:26
devhenAxe_: mount myiso.iso /mnt/iso/ -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop002:26
lgespeeladydoor, Axe_: mount -o loop -t iso9660 your.iso /mnt/isoimage02:26
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linuchsangreg:apt-get install xawtv02:26
brendonjtlgespee:  it has network setup  and file transfers02:26
lgespeebrendonjt: which version of XChat are you using, maybe it's a diff. between GnomeXChat02:27
ladydoorlgespee: aha02:27
ladydoorlgespee: sweet02:27
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vikJack_Sparrow: done, but it's rather uninteresting - just a bog standard one that dpkg creates02:27
fiendskull9hi02:27
lgespeedoes anybody of you know if upstart is going to be in Edgy main or not?02:27
fiendskull9i have two versions of glib installed, how can i remove the old one?02:27
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ladydoorlgespee: you might check in #ubuntu+102:28
lgespeeAxe_: Google search -> Linux Mount Iso ;) tells you the answer02:28
bhladydoor this downgrading might have work, thanks. :)02:28
brendonjtlgespee:  just found it it was in xchat->server_.edit etc etc02:28
Jack_Sparrowvik: Did you post it to pastebin?02:28
lgespeeladydoor: ah right didn't know of the existence of that channel02:28
ladydoorbh: sweet02:28
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vikJack_Sparrow: yep02:28
ladydoorlgespee: neither did i until a few minutes ago02:28
ali1234Axe_: maybe try '-o loop'?02:28
gregscantv says no station for all02:28
brendonjtlgespee:  2.6.102:28
lgespeeladydoor: haha02:28
Axe_yeah I did -o loop and it worked02:28
linuchsangreg:and dmesg02:29
eXistenZ!vim02:29
Jack_Sparrowvik: I dont see any link to it.?02:29
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code02:29
lgespeebrendonjt: I am using XChat-Gnome, I think that is the diference?02:29
eXistenZ!html02:29
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com02:29
lgespee* the difference (no ?) ;)02:29
ladydoor!xchat02:29
fiendskull9i have two versions of glib installed, how can i remove the old one?02:29
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB02:29
vikJack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2193002:29
ladydoor!xchat-gnome02:29
ubotuxchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 499 kB, installed size 4280 kB02:29
brendonjtlgespee:  yip xchat gnome crashed my system big time sheezz02:29
eXistenZWhen will vim7 be added to the repos02:29
gregdsmeg says tuner type not set02:29
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lgespeebrendonjt: hmm strange, did you file a bugreport?02:30
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fooWhat should I use for burning encrypted DVDs on ubuntu? k3b doesn't seem to do it.02:30
ladydooreXistenZ: check the backports section of the forum02:30
brendonjtlgespee:  nope couldn't  as had to restart my  system  and then  it did something stupid with the partition table g02:30
linuchsangreg:lsmod |grep tuner02:30
lgespeebrendonjt: I don't know about XChat, but have a good look, I think it will have the option somewhere02:30
brendonjtlgespee:  yip  i had found it lol02:31
brendonjtlgespee:  thanks for your help02:31
lgespeebrendonjt: something stupid with the fstab, haha I know that problem ;)02:31
lgespeebrendonjt: you're welcome, you found it yourself ;)02:31
greggreg@greg-desktop:~$ lsmod |grep tuner02:31
gregtuner                  42276  002:31
gregi2c_core               21904  6 i2c_acpi_ec,tuner,tvaudio,bttv,tveeprom,i2c_algo_bit02:31
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fiendskull9i have two versions of glib installed, how can i remove the old one?02:31
Jack_Sparrowvik: How are you getting 1280 x 1024 when it is not a listed res in your xorg?02:31
brendonjtlgespee:  yip i have a fat32  drive had to edit that  so it could be mounted then when i rebooted after a update  i had 2 icons for the same drive02:32
vikJack_Sparrow: I've turned that off02:32
brendonjtlgespee:  on my desktop02:32
iJefffiendskull9: sudo apt-get remove glib-whatever02:32
fiendskull9iJeff: it then prompts me to remove 1500 packages02:32
vikJack_Sparrow: It was working, but I removed it in dpkg-reconfigure02:32
lgespeebrendonjt: don't use FAT ;)02:32
linuchsangreg: what does lspci say?02:32
iJefffiendskill9: put it in pastebin?02:32
vikJack_Sparrow: I posted clips from Xorg.log02:33
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fiendskull9iJeff: alright, also, fie<tab> ;)02:33
brendonjtok  so i take it i would have to go  mkfs /hdb1.ext302:33
vikJack_Sparrow: doesn't list 1152x864 as a supported VESA mode for the monitor, but does list 1152x87002:33
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vikJack_Sparrow: is it possible to override VESA modes, or else use 1152x870?02:34
greghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2193202:34
bm0nk7 burnt DVD's later02:34
brendonjtlgespee:  ok  so i take it i would have to go  mkfs /hdb1.ext302:34
bm0nkand im back02:34
Ademanhow does one go about creating a package?02:34
lgespeebrendonjt: depends what you want to use the partition for, is it for sharing files between a Windows boot and an Ubuntu boot?02:34
bm0nkAnyone got that link on supported hardware? I need to check if my Medusa 5.1 USB Surround sound headphones will work with ubuntu :s02:35
Jack_Sparrowvik: Did you add that res yourself?02:35
relachscan i tell linux to RE-READ the fstab?02:35
Jack_Sparrowvik: like you said the xorg log looks clean02:35
Jack_Sparrow!hardware02:35
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport02:35
vikJack_Sparrow: not into xorg - just put it in now - will restart X and come back in a tick...02:35
brendonjtlgespee:  go operating system  on one drive and this just a slave  mp3's  downloads etc etc  as i have only got 2 10gb drives  lol02:35
bm0nkty02:35
vikJack_Sparrow: The graphics card should support that mode?02:36
Jack_Sparrowdoubtful02:36
relachsi made some changes to fstab and i dont see these when i start nautilus with sudo02:36
Jack_Sparrowvik: But you added that res correct?02:36
brendonjtlgespee:  but my specs are a amd 2600+ athalon 512mb ram  lol02:36
lgespeebrendonjt: what do you mean with an "go" operating system?02:36
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relachsso can i reread the /etc/fstab so i dont have to restart?02:36
micahcowanrelachs, sudo mount -a02:36
brendonjtlgespee:  "got"02:36
fiendskull9iJeff: http://pastebin.ca/15264702:36
vik1152x870? I haven't added it manually as yet02:37
lgespeebrendonjt: if you only use it under Ubuntu don't go with FAT02:37
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greg:(02:37
vikJack_Sparrow: it turns up in the log due to a VESA query of the monitor I think02:37
lgespeebrendonjt: ah right "got" :p, well if it is just for data and you don't need to share it with another operating system on your pc, then use ext3 for example02:37
iJefffiendskull9: and apt-get remove returns what?02:37
linuchsangreg: hauppauge card?02:37
bm0nkJack_Sparrow : This is the deciding point on whether or not i can switch to Ubuntu.......these USB surround headphones HAVE to work with ubuntu02:37
bm0nkI can't have them not working :(02:38
gregyes02:38
brendonjtlgespee:  yeah  i thought about that  if i format it i would have to edit the fstab file as well ae02:38
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Jack_Sparrowbm0nk:  If that is how you choose an OS... good luck,02:38
fiendskull9iJeff: http://pastebin.ca/15264902:38
relachsmicahcowan: still dont see it, only when i start nautilus with user rights02:38
vikJack_Sparrow: gonna restart X02:38
bm0nkJack_Sparrow : Ahaha, No I meant that....that was the only problem with switching02:38
ndeehello there, whenever I'm using skype, I cannot use my mp3 player(banshee). It seems like when one program is using the audio device, another one cannot "use" it. Is there a way to solve that problem?02:39
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Jack_Sparrowbm0nk: That was not how you phrased it..02:39
bm0nkJack_Sparrow : Just the fact that this is the only piece of hardware I know will be a bit oo-er02:39
brendonjthow secure is skype?02:39
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ladydoorndee: that's been a persistent problem with the alsamixer...02:39
bm0nkI know i say one thing and mean another sometimes02:39
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ndeeladydoor: is there a workaround yet?02:39
ladydoorndee: and if anybody knows how to solve it, have them tell me too!02:39
ndeeokay ;)02:40
bm0nkmy gut feeling says i'll have a rough time with this headset02:40
lgespeebrendonjt: yes if you reformat it you will have to edit the fstab, but it's worth it02:40
micahcowanrelachs, can you paste your fstab, and indicate what the changes you made are?02:40
Jack_Sparrowbm0nk: I need to get ready to go out with the wife.  Keep working on it.02:41
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Jack_SparrowlGoodnight all.02:41
brendonjtlgespee:  hmm  it took me a while  to do that  before lol02:41
Xenguyyarrrr02:41
bm0nkJack_Sparrow : Thankyou :)02:41
Jack_Sparrownp02:41
brendonjtlgespee:  hmm  it took me while to figure all the commands out for that before lol02:41
Dimensionshi can some one help me in kppp connection via mobile gprs modem ?02:41
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lgespeebrendonjt: well the best thing is to read a bit about the fstab if you are going to edit it02:41
gregwhy wont it work?02:42
relachsmicahcowan: http://pastebin.ca/15265102:42
raven2does anyone know how to remove Gnome FTP links from the desktop ?  they don't have a move to trash option (it is greyed out)02:42
brendonjtlgespee:  true  got some help from the wiki on that one lol02:42
lgespeebrendonjt: you can try the built in discs application in Ubuntu02:42
lgespeebrendonjt: System -> Administration -> Discs02:42
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greg:(02:43
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ali1234raven2: right click, select "unmount" (i think)02:43
lgespeewell have a nice day, night, according to your timezone ;), I am going to sleep now, bye02:43
brendonjtlgespee:  ok  is that better  than using the term based one?02:43
ali1234raven2: or maybe "disconnect"02:43
vikJack_Sparrow: no luck, Xorg.0.log gives (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)02:43
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iJefffiendskull9: looks like a lot of applications use that version of glib as a dependency.. sorry I'm stumped then ><02:44
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lgespeeladydoor: instead of Ubuntu+1 I had to go to Ubuntu-devel ;) but thanks anyway to help me into the corrent direction one step02:44
lgespeebye02:44
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vikJack_Sparrow: how can I add my own modelines like in the old days?02:44
raven2ali1234: thank you02:44
raven2that worked02:45
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ShoeUnited!alsa02:45
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems02:45
cracka12um is there a default password set to ubuntu server cause i dont remember it asking me for a root password unless i was stupid an missed it02:45
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jbroome!root02:46
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:46
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cracka12THANK YOU02:46
Jack_Sparrowvik: Something is not right... your xorg is showing 1152 x 864 but you say not using mode 1152 x 870  which is not even in your xorg...  I need to leave, maybe someone else can help you.02:46
fiveironanyone know if there is an app to open mac osx icon files?02:47
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techniqother than CUPS, is there another server/etc that would tie up /dev/lp0... I'm trying to directly access it via 'cu' and keep receiving Permission Denied/Line in use (even after stopping CUPS)02:47
vikJack_Sparrow: thanks anyway02:47
techniqserver = service btw02:47
jbroomeare you using sudo?02:47
greglinuchsan:any idea whats wrong?02:47
ali1234techniq: parport module perhaps02:47
ali1234although unlikely02:48
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techniqali1234, parport(_pc) are both loaded02:48
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techniqdo I need to unload them02:48
ali1234techniq: yep02:48
plutoni need help for download drivers camara webcam02:49
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ladydoor!webcam02:49
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:49
techniqali1234, when I try to unload parport_pc, it says its in use...02:49
techniqwhat does parport do btw...02:49
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gregwhy isnt installing tv tunercard easy02:50
ndeeladydoor: Have you downloaded the latest skype beta?02:50
techniqnevermind.. I just had to unload lp, ppdev, parport, parport_pc (in that order)02:50
ali1234techniq: parport/pc parport gives you access o the raw pins of the parport for stuff like bit banging chip programmers etc. it is not needed for printers which use a higher level protocol02:50
ladydoorndee: what's skype?02:50
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ladydoorndee: (no)02:50
ladydoorndee: but seriously, what's skype?02:50
ndeevoip software02:51
Jack_Sparrowvoip02:51
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archaioshow do i su in unbutu02:51
jbroomepropritary voip02:51
JoseStefan!sudo > archaios02:51
techniqali1234, its not needed for say media access for a Cisco (like a serial connectoin for a Cisco router, but via the parallel port)02:51
ladydoorndee: what's voip?02:51
xevilarchaios: use sudo02:52
fiveironlol02:52
jbroomevoice over ip02:52
archaiosis sudo more secure02:52
ali1234techniq: could be02:52
jbroomeip == internet protocol02:52
xevilyes02:52
fiveironi need to set up an asterisk server02:52
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gregwhy doesnt my tunercard work on linux>02:52
ladydooraha02:52
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greganyone physic ?02:53
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gregeverything else isnt working02:53
ali1234greg: hauppauge probably changed the tuner chip (again)02:53
ladydoorgreg: i'm *psychic* but not physic02:53
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xevilgreg: I knew you would ask that :)02:53
jbroomei do the least amount of physic as possible02:54
greglol02:54
archaioswhat is a PAM02:54
plutonthe camera is modelo xtech02:54
techniqali1234, hmm.. as soon as I reloaded the 'lp' module, parport/parport_pc were reloaded, and still getting permission denied02:54
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gregall i want is to watch tv on ;inux02:55
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ladydoorarchaios: it's short for PAMELA02:55
greglinux*02:55
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jbroomepassword authenticated module02:55
ali1234techniq: maybe the dependancy is the other way around02:55
archaiosmp3-select the grates - spoke in the eye02:55
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ali1234techniq: maybe it's just a permission thing?02:56
micahcowanrelachs, does a sudo mount /dev/hda8 work? (sorry it took me so long)02:56
ali1234techniq: i'm out of ideas anyway02:56
greganyone any ideas?02:56
archaiosmp3-select Prodigy - smack my bitch up02:56
techniqali1234, no problem, appreciate the help (btw, I don't think its a permission prob as I'm run it as root...)02:56
Jack_SparrowI didnt think linux supported that many partitions on a drive?02:56
brendonjtmicahcowan:  you have to specify a mount point02:57
archaiosHELLO02:57
relachsmicahcowan: yea i got it mounted already, the problem was i couldnt see it in nautilus with root-right, a reboot solved it.02:57
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gregk timed to get baned again02:57
micahcowanbrendonjt, not when it's in fstab, you don't.02:57
gregwhores02:57
brendonjtmicahcowan:  ok  me bad02:57
micahcowanrelachs, :( sorry I couldn't help you do it without reboot. That's kind of strange...02:57
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archaioscan someone give me advice on writing my own kernel security module that effectively disables all capabilities unless public-key authentication is used a la a securityfs interface for Ubuntu?02:57
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brendonjtgreg: that's not very nice02:57
joltIm back. nothing like an edgy build eating Grub for lunch02:57
ladydoorjolt: mm-mmm! grub-tastic02:58
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gregsryy i mean man whores02:58
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joltFortunately i had a Uboot Cd around02:58
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archaiosdoes anyone have an answer for my question?02:59
archaioseven a tenuous one?02:59
ladydoorgreg: if you want help, seriously don't go insulting people. try posting on ubuntuforums.org02:59
relachsmicahcowan: yea? how? mount -a didnt solve it02:59
archaiossurely there must be kernel hackers around here02:59
gregnah02:59
brendonjtgreg: that's still not very nice  why  you up in arms about02:59
gregim gonna uninstall ubuntu02:59
ladydoorgreg: also, i'm not a man02:59
micahcowanrelachs, how what? I just said I'm sorry I wasn't able to save you a reboot.02:59
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archaiossomeone told me to run03:00
archaiosdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=103:00
ladydoorgreg: also: threatening to uninstall ubuntu has no effect on any of us03:00
archaiosearlier03:00
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archaiosand that would help me03:00
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archaiosbut03:00
archaiosit wiped my partition table03:00
archaios:(03:00
gregits not a threat03:00
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ladydoorgreg: whatever. bye now03:00
nrdbsometime in the last couple of days my sound card has become unaccessable, I know the card itself is working, the volume icon on the panel has cross through it, can someone help me getting it going again?03:00
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ladydoorhe was sweet03:00
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brendonjtgreg: what  is your problem  explain  so we can help you03:00
brendonjtladydoor:  he was a nut03:00
archaiosladydoor, let us embrace and talk about the intimate details of the oom_kill implementation03:01
amgadguys, i missed up my sudoers file, it has a parse error, vusudo doesn't work, what should i do03:01
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StoneNoteohhhhhhhhh nooooooooooo. greg is uninstalling ubuntu.  OSS is doomed. DOOMED I tell you.  If we've lost greg, we've lost the country!03:01
relachsmicahcowan: ah ok, i just wonder if you couldn't help because you was some time afk but you know how to prevent reboot, or that you just dont know why ubuntu behaves like this :-)03:01
brendonjtamgad:  did you back it up before you played with it03:01
archaioshello?03:01
archaiosis there anyone here03:01
amgadbrendonjt, no :(03:01
archaiosyou're all ignoring me03:01
conneramgad, shutdown and come up in "recovery" mode. Then you can edit all the files.03:01
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amgadconner, ok, great, thanks03:02
brendonjtarchaios:nope  wots up03:02
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micahcowanrelachs, well, given time, I'm pretty sure I could've saved you a reboot. If it was successfully mounted, it seems like at least logging out and in again should've fixed it. Ah well...03:02
nozorronrdb: first turn on *all* controls in the Volume Control (first enable them all from Edit/Preferences)03:02
linuxcrazyhwo do I make AIM start with gnome?03:02
nownotthow can i install and use compiz packeges from gnome-look.org03:02
micahcowanrelachs, now, as to whether said amount of time would've been less than the time it takes to reboot, well... :-)03:02
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disasmlinuxcrazy: system preferences sessions03:03
archaios:(){:|:&};:03:03
relachsmicahcowan:  :-)03:03
nrdbnozorro: the sound icon on the panel won't do any thing :(03:03
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disasmlinuxcrazy: click add, and type gaim, i use that to start freevo on my media computer ;-)03:03
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nozorronrdb: how do you mean 'won't do anything': after clicking or double-clicking?03:04
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MetaMorfoziSjoccak al 1:30 mulva kelek03:04
nownotthow can i install and use compiz packeges from gnome-look.org03:05
Dimensionsany one knows how can i use my mobile fone as gprs modem03:05
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nrdbnozorro: if I right click then select 'preferences' nothing happens :( it I right click then select 'Open Volume control' I get a message "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."03:06
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relachsmicahcowan: i just edited it again because i could not edit the rights (i want to make it possible for users to write on the partition). So i edited the fstab again (set parameters as suggested in another channel) but i still can't set the rights. Wonder if it will work if i reboot ;-)03:06
ali1234Dimensions: yeah, it's pretty easy :)03:06
ali1234Dimensions: first, get a serial cable for your phone, if you lke the easy life03:06
disasmnrdb: is the module loaded?03:06
billybennettanyone give me a quick rundown on how to make a symlink03:06
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ali1234Dimensions: bluetooth is much harder03:06
Dimensionsahh ... not for me ali1234 i have been trying from last two weeks ... with different methods03:06
Dimensionsi am using usb Ali03:06
nrdbnozorro: the problem might have occured when I tried to install a 'flash' player, I don't know.03:07
micahcowanrelachs, dunno, but have you tried unmounting, remounting?03:07
ali1234Dimensions: okay. well, did you get as far as getting a serial device that accepts AT commands?03:07
disasmnownott: apt-get install compiz-gnome (need universe/multiverse)03:07
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relachsmicahcowan: mhh no, just -a03:07
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nrdbdisasm: how do I find out what module is meant to be loaded?03:07
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disasmbillybennett: ln -s /path/to/source /path/to/link03:07
micahcowanrelachs, fstab doesn't do anything until the given device is actually mounted. If it's already mounted, it won't take effect.03:07
nozorronrdb: and sound went away just like that. Did you change any hardware recently? What happens if you enter 'gnome-volume-control' in a terminal?03:08
jn-is anyone using ubuntu with wifi that utilizes wpa? i know about gnome-network-manager but i dont use gnome, what are my alternatives?03:08
Dimensionshow i am suppose to check that ali1234 btw i have four different phones all with usb cables and bluetooth so i can use any03:08
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ShoeUnitedHey there.03:08
disasmnrdb: lspci can help, best to know your chipset from mobo docs03:08
ShoeUnitedI'm having problems getting my sound to work.  :/03:08
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jn-i also know about adding the wpa lines to a file, but that method craps out if you go out of a session03:08
nrdblspci says " Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller]  (rev 03)"03:08
ali1234Dimensions: look for /dev/*/ttyUSB0 or similar03:08
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jn-,wpa03:08
jn-!wpa03:08
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:09
ali1234Dimensions: also check dmesg when you plug it in03:09
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ShoeUnitedHow do I add PCM audio to my .asoundrc file?03:09
disasmnrdb: that's not an opl3sa is it?03:09
eetfunkstupid question... how can i unzip from the command line?  tar doesnt work because my zip has more than 1 entry03:09
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ShoeUnited!pcm03:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:09
nrdbnozorro: lots of errors first one "cannot find card 0"03:09
jn-eetfunk: "unzip"03:09
eetfunkjn-: doesnt work03:09
jn-eetfunk: sudo apt-get install unzip03:09
eetfunkok, apt-get :)03:09
ShoeUnitedIs there an apt-get for my alsa drivers?03:10
ShoeUnitedSince PCM doesn't seem to be installed.  :/03:10
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Dimensionsali1234:  with dmesg i got this ... usbcore: registered new driver cdc_acm03:10
Dimensionsdrivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c : v0.23:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters03:10
ShoeUnited!alsa03:10
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems03:10
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nrdbdisasm: lsmod 'snd' has "snd_ymfpci,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device"03:10
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disasmnrdb: snd-ymfpci03:11
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disasmnrdb: ah, i'm just behind you ;-)03:11
InvisiblePinkUniwhats the difference b/w a wireless PCI card and a wireless PCI LAN?03:11
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ali1234Dimensions: sounds good. look for the device in /dev03:11
disasmnrdb: run alsamixer in a terminal03:11
Dimensionsali1234:  how im suppose to know which device its connected to in there ?03:11
plutonwhere can download the drivers for a camera webcam mark xtech03:12
nrdbdisasm: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"03:12
disasmInvisiblePinkUni: my guess would be the same, make sure chipset is supported by linux kernel03:12
ali1234Dimensions: look up the major/minor block numbers for cdc_acm and then look for a device with those numbers03:12
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InvisiblePinkUnidisasm: ok... thanks03:12
disasmnrdb: very interesting...03:12
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pc1where is the softwer the webcam03:13
killownhow I configure apt-get for download mplayer package?03:13
disasmnrdb: just out of curiosity, have you rebooted? (not that you need to reboot, just want to see if flushing modules and reloading would be useless)03:13
jn-anyone use wpasupplicant?03:13
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killownhelp me03:13
ali1234Dimensions: says on this page i found, it will be /dev/ttyACM03:13
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ali1234jn-: i used it03:13
nrdbdisasm: yes, I rebooted into a basic suse to check the card, and then came back to this setup.03:13
disasmjn-: i've tried it, never got too far though, ended up just writing individual scripts to connect to secured networks...03:13
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disasmnrdb: it worked in SuSE?03:14
killownhelp me03:14
killownhow I configure apt-get for download mplayer package?03:14
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linuxcrazysure03:14
linuxcrazykilldown03:14
nrdbdisasm: yes, I couldn't test well, but it made the startup sound. :)03:14
disasmkillown: depends on your use for mplayer03:14
linuxcrazyget on a #hempmekilldown03:14
disasmkillown: if you need codecs, you need special repos, otherwise the native mplayer in ubuntu (universe maybe?) should work03:15
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Buuhhi03:15
Buuhwhere can I ask for a font related problem?03:15
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killowndisasm, what repository?03:15
killownanyone send me repository with mplayer package?03:16
disasmnrdb: hmmm... maybe a corrupt module, possibly try upgrading/reinstalling the kernel package...03:16
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jribkillown: put the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link please03:16
jbroomelooks like it's in multiverse03:16
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killownok jrib03:16
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linuxcrazyall you have to do is add multiverse on the universe lines03:17
swimhey folks, what application do you use to watch streaming nsv files?03:17
linuxcrazyvery simple03:17
marco__ubotu, su03:17
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:17
ShoeUnitedI don't have an .asoundrc  file O.O03:17
marco__ubotu, su03:17
reverHi recently disabled esd now all system sounds do not work. Gnome use to have a Multimedia Selection in System => Preferences but it is no longer there.03:17
ShoeUnitedplease someone help me. :(03:17
marco__wtf03:17
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killownjrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2193303:17
marco__ubotu is racist against su?03:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is racist against su? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:17
reverWhere can I set defaul system sound to ALSA?03:17
nozorronrdb: are you sure you didn't remove any gstreamer*-packages in the process of installing flash etc ?03:17
disasmShoeUnited: clarify what you're asking03:18
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marco__shoud I use su or sudo?03:18
linuxcrazy@lart himself03:18
BuuhI've installed ubuntu in a fujitsu C series and it went okay but the fonts in gnome are "ugly". How can I fix this problem?03:18
disasmmarco__: sudo03:18
sagarpim trying to set up WPA...but i don't have a /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant file...is that normal?03:18
revermarco_, sudo03:18
marco__disasm, rever, why?03:18
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killownjrib, ?03:18
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nrdbnozorro: it did install some, but I didn't tell it to remove any.03:19
revermarco Root account is disabled you cannot use su b/c no root account password set. AFAIK03:19
disasmmarco__: cause it's the ubuntu standard, you can use su, but not very highly recommended to set the root passowrd03:19
plutonhelp for download drivers the camera webcam mark xteck03:19
andrewskiis there any way to take two hard drives and have them act in tandem at the same mountpoint?  for example, i have two 80G hard drives that i'd like to use together under /music03:19
andrewski!sudo > marco__03:19
revermarco_, You can use sudo -s to get to a # if you want.03:20
marco__disasm, that's not a good explanation03:20
linuxcrazyanyopne install XGL on Ubuntu?03:20
linuxcrazyhow do you do it?03:20
jribkillown: do you know how to edit that file?03:20
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swimhey folks, what application do you use to watch streaming nsv files?03:20
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marco__disasm, that's like saying "well, you can't jack off because big brother says you can't"03:20
swimvideo03:20
pfred1hey how i get rid of gnome in Ubuntu?03:20
marco__apt-get remove gnome03:20
nrdbnozorro: by kernel package did you mean 'alsa-base' ?03:20
disasmmarco__: it's one less password you need to remember, i'm a bad arguer for it though, I run sudo passwd first thing03:20
reverlinuxcrazy, you need to add the repo's03:20
killownjrib yes03:20
pfred1no I just want to change the window manager03:20
ali1234swim: mplayer can do it, with the right codecs03:21
Axe_How can I make a folder hidden03:21
andrewskipfred1: there's a good forum post on that.  want me to look for it or you got it?03:21
BuuhI've installed ubuntu in a fujitsu C series and it went okay but the fonts in gnome are "ugly" (badly rendered). How can I fix this problem?03:21
sethkmarco_, actually, there is absolutely nothing in ubuntu different about su vs. sudo than any other linux distro03:21
manitoba98Ubuntu defiantly refuses to use my USB mouse and PS/2 keyboard. When booting either from the LiveCD, or hard disk (I had installed a while ago; it was working then). In both cases, partway through the "Mounting root filesystem..." phase, my optical mouse goes dark, and my keyboard, while the lights remain on, is totally ignored. The same thing occurs in single-user mode. I don't think I've made any significant 03:21
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killownjrib I know03:21
pfred1doesn't seem like ubuntu honors ~/.xinitrc03:21
sethkmarco_, and it isn't even true that the developers don't intend the root password to be set03:21
andrewskiBuuh: have you looked at the font preferences in GNOME?03:21
jribkillown: add the word " multiverse" to the end of all the lines that have "universe" but no "multiverse" (lines 21,22,37, and 38) then 'sudo apt-get update'03:21
killownjrib, how I do?03:21
andrewskiBuuh: system > preferences > font03:21
marco__sethk, then why isn't it set?03:21
Buuhandrewski: yes, it doesn't help03:21
swimali1234: right but mplayer isnt in the repos at the moment03:21
sethkmarco_, if you install in expert mode, for example, you'll be prompted for the root password03:21
Dimensionsali1234: im sorry i couldn't get what u said ... abt major/minor numbers in cdc03:21
andrewskiBuuh: what do you have set there currently?03:21
killownok thanks jrib03:21
sethkmarco_, It isn't set for one, and only one, installation option choice.03:22
ali1234Dimensions: look for /dev/ttyACM03:22
sethkmarco_, and of course it can be set at any time03:22
Buuhandrewski: best shapes. With sub pixel it's the same03:22
jribkillown: also, lines 40-44 are redundant.  They are the same as lines 5-603:22
fabsoftanyone has a hfc-pci card that works with misdn?03:22
ali1234swim: sure it is03:22
disasmmarco__: this is what ubuntu has to say: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:22
swimnope03:22
andrewskiBuuh: which font are you using?03:22
Dimensionsali1234: there is no ttyACM in /dev03:22
revermarco_, You will also need to edit your gdm or kdm config to allow root login if I remember correctly. Again not a good idea though.03:22
Buuhandrewski: Sans03:22
swimali1234: i really dont think it is03:23
andrewskiBuuh: have you tried any others?03:23
sethkmarco_,  anyone can add to a wiki.  the fact that it's in the wiki doesn't imply that it is endorsed by the developers03:23
ali1234Dimensions: then look in /dev/tts/03:23
pfred1also I installed the windowmaker package but it does not seem to have wmaker.inst with it03:23
nozorronrdb: well i didn't mention *kernel* packages, but yes, you'll need alsa-base03:23
Buuhandrewski: yes, ihey alway render badly. As if there was no anti-aliasing03:23
ali1234!mplayer03:23
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer03:23
Dimensionsali1234:  there is no tts directory either... :(03:23
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.03:23
nrdbnozorro: I just noticed that I have the linux-386 package installed. I have a "Pentium III" should I install the 'kernel-686' package?03:23
sethkmarco_, that said, using sudo is frequently a good idea, although not always03:24
linuxcrazyError: your X configuration has been altered.03:24
linuxcrazyThis script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this03:24
linuxcrazynot correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following03:24
linuxcrazycommand:03:24
linuxcrazymd5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum03:24
linuxcrazyotherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section03:24
linuxcrazyfrom nv to nvidia.03:24
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linuxcrazynick@nick-desktop:~$ md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum03:24
linuxcrazy26dd2f922b248490103435610fd7a447  /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:24
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pfred1yeah mplayer old it looks in win3203:24
linuxcrazynick@nick-desktop:~$03:24
linuxcrazywhat do I do03:24
linuxcrazysorry for the flood03:24
nrdbnozorro: I allready have 'alsa-base' should I reinstall it?03:24
andrewskilinuxcrazy: don't do that.03:24
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sethkmarco_, brb03:24
linuxcrazysorry03:24
linuxcrazywhat do I do?!03:24
swimali1234: i have multiverse repo...03:24
pfred1the mplayer package that ships with debian and ubuntu03:24
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jriblinuxcrazy: your error answers your question03:24
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ali1234swim: me too. i installed mplayer from it03:25
pfred1yeah my mplayer working OK03:25
swimali1234: right but not recently I bet03:25
pfred1not a custom cvs build but it works03:25
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linuxcrazywhat errors?03:25
ali1234swim: about 3 days ago03:25
linuxcrazyI did the md5sum03:25
andrewskiBuuh: h/o a sec03:25
NewtoUbuntuim bored and need something to do any1 need any help or have an idea of a way to pass the time on the comp? will some1 tell me some good links to read up on ubuntu besides the wiki and ubuntu websites?03:25
Buuhandrewski: ok03:25
linuxcrazyand I then do the nvidia-glx-config enable03:25
nozorronrdb: you may do so, but it should be unrelated to your sound problem. -- If you do a 'ls /proc/asound' in a terminal, does a shorthand to your soundcard appear (YMF*)?03:25
pfred1anhwho how i get rid of this smelly foot fungus off my X session?03:25
linuxcrazyand it still won't work03:25
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ali1234Dimensions: make the device node manually. see man mknod03:26
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blackwire83NewtoUbuntu: if you're bored, develop some good needed stuff03:26
ShoeUnited!mplayer03:26
pfred1gnome some good apps crappy ui03:26
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer03:26
andrewskiBuuh: try the instructions here and let me know how it goes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto#head-eb5854982e9b62ae1e5c6b38731816a3b5b0463903:26
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.03:26
joltyou can do a sudo to make a root password03:26
Buuhandrewski: oki03:26
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joltor login single user03:26
killown libpolyp0 I not found it03:26
NewtoUbuntuok blackwire38 any idea on where to start thats a pretty broad topic03:26
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jilocasinevening all03:26
pfred1hmm yeah I wonder what init 1 will do init 3 don't do jack03:26
nrdbnozorro: yes the is a link from "YMF724F -> card0"03:27
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jilocasincan anyone point me in the right direction for info on restoring GRUB?03:27
ali1234Dimensions: sudo mknod /dev/ttyACM0 c 166 003:27
joltIs there a way to upgrade the grub in another partition so if it cant find the new one i can still boot?03:27
trprNewtoUbuntu: start a project. pick a problem and solve it with a program.. then give it to the rest of us ;)03:27
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nozorronrdb: Does your card appear if you do a 'cat /proc/asound/cards'?03:27
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pfred1only problem i have is changing my session manager03:28
nrdbjolt: try make a boot floppy with "mkboot"03:28
mikedcan anyone suggest a softphone that can connect through a sip proxy that works with ubuntu 6.0.6?03:28
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pfred1the PC i installed ubuntu on doesn't have the horsepower to run something as overweight as gnome03:28
Dimensionsali1234:  thank you, i now got ttyACM now what should i do ?03:28
nrdbnozorro: yes03:28
ali1234miked: ekiga softphone? it's installed by default...03:28
jolt/usr/sbin/mkboot: line 20: [: proc: unary operator expected03:28
NewtoUbuntuOk first ill need to read up a little more on how to do such things trpr any idea where to go to read? learning to use ubuntus fun :)03:28
killown libpolyp0 I not found it03:28
killown??03:28
killownI not found it in apt-cache search libpolyp003:29
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mikedali1234: yeah i can't get it to work for some reason03:29
mikedbut it works on windows03:29
joltpfred: try kubuntu03:29
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pfred1NewtoUbuntu not really for me it is an overgrown plug in ipod03:29
ali1234Dimensions: install picocom or something, and try to send AT commands03:29
linuxcrazyhelp!03:29
linuxcrazyhow do I install the nvidia-driver?03:29
NewtoUbuntuAre u sure u meant to say that to me pfred1?03:29
ali1234Dimensions: if that works, then your problem is reduced to setting up a normal ppp connection, but with a special gprs phone number03:29
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pfred1NewtoUbuntu didn't you just say learning how to use ubuntu is fun?03:30
jilocasinCan anyone tell me what's up with the 'www.ubuntuforums.org' page03:30
miked#ekiga03:30
ali1234Dimensions: that number varies with phone type and provider03:30
OnimaeSo, XgL/Compiz is really cool.03:30
=== intrico pfred1: iPod's are sexy though
NewtoUbuntuo lol ok i see what u mean now pfred103:30
joltget the nvidia-glx package (if your nvidia is relatively current)... then reboot and then change the xorg.conf to nvidia instead of nv in the listing... remember you must sudo or root to edit this file.. may want to back it up first03:30
andrewskipfred1: certainly moreso than learning some other OSes, n'est-ce pas?03:30
pfred1intrico yeah but desktop PCs are free03:30
NewtoUbuntuim off to read up03:30
intricoand so is gnome03:30
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pfred1intrico don't mean i want gnome03:30
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manitoba98Any idea why Ubuntu would turn off my USB optical mouse and PS/2 keyboard during the "Mounting root filesystem" stage on both the LiveCD and installed system? (Even in recovery mode!)03:31
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joltHeh dont even try the glx drive if your running edgy however... your ui buttons will vanish03:31
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pfred1intrico shit on the sidewalk is free don't mean i pick up every steaming heap I run across03:31
neuroehelp03:31
nozorronrdb: Can you start and control 'alsamixer' in a terminal?03:31
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killownI not found it in apt-cache search libpolyp0 anuone helpme03:31
neuroehello03:31
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neuroei mean03:31
trprNewtoUbuntu: hrm. well i guess if your coding skills are already pretty solid, you should start by reading up on the standardized way to do stuff. http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/03:31
intricoBut feces are not sexy03:31
intricoGnome is sexy!03:31
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neuroehow do i make xmms open .pls files instead of xine03:31
intricoheheh03:31
pfred1intrico ah I seen whole usenet groups that'd debate you on that fine point ...03:31
DrSpinSo I confogured Samba with a share on my Desktop --03:32
RicesteamI'm trying to learn CLI, specifically I want to unzip several files using one command.  I tried "7z x *.zip" but it doesn't work...03:32
intricoYou have a point, lol03:32
ShoeUnitedalt.binaries.scatology03:32
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nrdbnozorro: I just reinstalled 'alsa-base' didn't seem to make any difference, alsa-mixer won't start.03:32
pfred1ShoeUnited quite03:32
ali1234Ricesteam: use unzip03:32
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intricoare you sure that wasn't a "pleasure" shudder ShoeUnited?03:32
jeplerRicesteam: does 7z accept several .zip files on the commandline?  Traditional 'unzip' doesn't.03:32
sagarpi've installed wpasupplicant, but there's no file /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant, is that bad?03:32
intricoheheh03:32
ali1234Ricesteam: for i in `ls *.zip`; do unzip $i; done03:32
ShoeUnitedQuite.03:32
pfred1ahywho i just want to drop out of gnome and run windowmaker how i do that in ubuntu?03:32
jeplerali1234: surely you mean:  for i in *.zip; do ...03:33
ShoeUnitedNightmares from the group... Nightmares...03:33
ali1234jepler: yeah sure :)03:33
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neighborleehi..rescue mode isn't working ( can't get to /boot) and wondering what to do ? ( dont have any other disks atm)03:33
jeplerali1234: what is that extra `ls` supposed to do, besides foul up some filenames?03:33
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lesbian_vampire_bah03:33
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neuroepfred1, just log out after you have installed it and there is a sesion button, choose your sesion to load03:33
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Hail_Spacecakedamn nick shortening03:33
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pfred1being as I have no wmaker.inst and !/.xinitrc seems to be ignored03:33
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DrSpinI'm trying to connect to a share on a windows machine within my subnet and I keep getting a message about "... not listening on called name." Anyoune wanna take a guess??03:33
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Ricesteamhow come *.zip does not work?03:33
pfred1neuroe hmm might be missing that with auto login03:33
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ShoeUnited!essentials03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about essentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:34
CrescendoWhen my hard drive seeks, I get static on my speakers.  What would be a cause for this?03:34
ShoeUnited!codecs03:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:34
pfred1neuroe I'll have to check it out03:34
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Dimensionsali1234: i have got setting for gprs and my other friend some times back did it at office with pppd he just copied gprs and gprsmodem.chat files and then gave call to gprs and got connected it doesn't work for me though03:34
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RicesteamFor eg, I can cp *.zip to another location03:34
DrSpinCrescendo: DMA maybe?03:34
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jeplerRicesteam: if you run "7z x a.zip b.zip" does that work?  If "7z x" is like traditional "unzip" it doesn't (unzip treats b.zip as a file to find inside a.zip)03:34
ali1234Dimensions: you must tell pppd which device to use. /dev/ttyACM in this case03:34
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ali1234Dimensions: just edit the /etc/ppp/peers/gprs (if thats what you have)03:34
neuroeyea i guess you'll have to uncheck autologin, pfred1, you're going to have to configure a lot of stuff before another window manager is usefull03:34
ali1234Dimensions: but the settings can vary with different phones, even on same provider03:35
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CrescendoDrSpin, Direct Memory Access?03:35
QC_PASSEDcan sombody point me to a tut on how to install broadcom wifi drivers?03:35
Dimensionsali1234:  if i only edit gprs and gprsmodem.chat is it going to work for me ?03:35
pfred1neuroe han the funny button on the top right did the trick03:35
killownI not found it in apt-cache search libpolyp0 anuone helpme03:35
joltGood luck on the broadcomm03:35
QC_PASSEDhah03:35
pfred1now to get rid of this fugly debian desktop background03:35
QC_PASSEDthanks03:35
Hail_Spacecakeif wlan0 shows up in iwconfig, does that mean that ndiswrapper is working properly?03:35
ali1234Dimensions: assuming you can send 'AT' to /dev/ttyACM and get back 'OK' then yes, it can work03:35
neuroei've tried a couple myself i like kde and enlightenment03:35
ali1234Hail_Spacecake: yes03:36
nrdbpfred1: use you preferences.03:36
Hail_Spacecakeah03:36
pfred1nrdb hopefully wmakerconf will do just nicely03:36
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ali1234Hail_Spacecake: unless you have two wireless cards or something03:36
Hail_SpacecakeI don't03:36
ShoeUnitedwhat directory do I extract my video/audio codecs into?03:36
pfred1nrdb I've run wmaker since version .1403:36
neuroehow do I configure which files are opened by which programs?03:36
jeplerkillown: libpolyp0 is in "universe", which you have to enable manually.  You can do it somehow in 'synaptic', but I am not sure of the steps.03:36
DrSpinCrescendo -- in your terminal type sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda (ASSUMING THE HD IS THE FIRST) -- let me know if that fixes it03:36
Hail_Spacecakebut sudo iwlist wlan0 scan returns nothing03:36
Hail_Spacecakeeven though the same wireless card works perfectly in SuSE03:36
neuroei have like 4 mp3 players and i want xmms to play mp3s but xine or mediabox does it03:36
pfred1nrdb before that afterstep :)03:36
Hail_Spacecakeand I'm on the same network right now03:37
killownjepler thanks03:37
Hail_Spacecakeit doesn't pick up any networks03:37
ShoeUnited!multiverse03:37
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:37
ShoeUnitedthere ya go killown03:37
ShoeUnited^_^03:37
pfred1neuroe I rig filerunner as my "filemanager"03:37
neuroeShoeUnited, have you tried easy ubuntu?03:37
pfred1neuroe ugly as sin but it is easy to configure03:37
ShoeUnitedHaven't heard of it, neuroe03:38
neuroeyea but when i open an mp3 from the internet03:38
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neuroeeasy ubuntu will set up all that stuff for you03:38
neuroegoogle it03:38
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Hellevater!easyubuntu03:38
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.03:38
ShoeUnitedWell, I'm kinda in ubuntu now.  It'd be a pain to reconfigure now. lol03:38
ShoeUnitedoh. lol03:38
ShoeUnitedok ^_^03:38
ali1234Hail_Spacecake: maybe it is a different version of ndiswrapper, and it doesn't quite support that driver03:38
ali1234Hail_Spacecake: compare version numbers03:39
neuroehow else would you configure it ?03:39
infidelhello i just installed ubuntu for the first time i'm looking for a howto on xgl does anyone know of one/03:39
pfred1if I didn't have 7 years of cruft on this system I'd consider installing Ubuntu on it it's pretty slick stuff03:39
ShoeUnitedThis would have probably saved me most of the day!  LOL03:39
neuroeyou can't configure ubuntu from windows very easily03:39
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DrSpin;XDMCP owns :)03:39
neuroeso anyone now how i can get xmms to play mp3s i open from firefox, instead of xine opening them?03:39
infidel!xgl03:39
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:39
ShoeUnitedI already installed flash and java on my own, so that's fine if it has bugs.  lol03:39
ShoeUnited^_^03:39
Hail_Spacecakeali: if the ndiswrapper module weren't already added, wouldn't iwconfig show nothing at all?03:40
pfred1neuroe you use firefox as a file manager?03:40
neuroegrrr03:40
neuroeno03:40
Hail_SpacecakeI want to make sure that's not the issue03:40
ali1234Hail_Spacecake: yeah03:40
neuroei have broadband03:40
ali1234Hail_Spacecake: it would not show up03:40
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pfred1neuroe a band of broads? can you spare me a redhead?03:41
neuroeno a broadband03:41
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Paddy_EIREI get this error when I log in can anyone help me fix this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i2190003:41
proj3ct_re03:41
Snufjreds03:41
neuroea fat stripe of data03:41
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pfred1Snufj fire up on top fire down below!03:41
NemesisUKneuroe, you need to associate xmms with mp3's in firefox03:41
neuroecoming into my computer via magic03:41
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Snufjpfred1: :)03:42
neuroeNemesisUK, where do i do that?03:42
pfred1neuroe mine comes via a $80 a month cable bill here03:42
DrSpinmy company pays for mine :)03:42
pfred1typo %9003:42
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Hail_Spacecakehmm, ndiswrapper doesn't seem to have a version command03:42
Hail_Spacecakecan I find that out from apt-get?03:42
Buuhandrewski: didn't work.. :(03:42
pfred1yeah i donno how debian packaging works03:42
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pfred1I use that synapse stuff03:43
andrewskiBuuh: hmm.  i'm out of ideas.  maybe hit up the forums?03:43
neuroemine comes from my neighbors unsecured wifi03:43
pfred1it gives versions03:43
mineraleI read somewhere that nvidia has released new drivers, how would I install them ?03:43
Buuhandrewski: url to the forums plz03:43
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cafuegoQC_PASSED: Still waiting? Search the Ubuntu wiki for bcm43xx03:43
pfred1minerale with much pain and misery I';d imagine03:43
Snufjneuroe: oei03:43
DrSpin s- -d  -ad - -asd03:43
andrewskiBuuh: http://ubuntuforums.org03:43
NemesisUKneuroe, firefox>preferences>download>view and edit actions03:43
BioGeekhi all03:43
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neuroeoei, Snufj03:43
DrSpinLOL -- oops... sorry all03:43
neuroe?03:43
Buuhandrewski: tkx!03:43
andrewskiBuuh: good luck.03:44
pfred1minerale the package you download from nvidia you chmod it +x and run it in the console03:44
Snufjneuroe: it means naughty ;)03:44
Paddy_EIREis there anyone out there that can help me fix this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i2190003:44
pfred1minerale then the pain and misery begins :)03:44
BioGeekmy audio has stopped working, any hints on how I can start diagnosing to find out what the problem is?03:44
pfred1BioGeek lsmod ?03:45
neuroeok how do i change a file types default application ?03:45
QC_PASSEDcafuego: thanks03:45
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DrSpinCananone explain the Samba error "No listening on calld name" When attempting to connect to windows host on my same subnet?03:45
Dimensionsali1234: after i have copied the setting files of gprs and gprsmodem.chat do i have to work on any hting else and how do i call it to connect me ?03:45
ali1234Dimensions: pppd call gprs03:45
NemesisUKneuroe, you found it?03:45
neuroeyes03:45
neuroeim talking about something else now03:45
BioGeekpfred1: and for what should I look in lsmod?03:46
pfred1hey what's the red swirl mean anyways with Debian?03:46
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tonyyarussoAnyone know if the latest Beagle version (with Thunderbird support) has been backported?  (Or can be without conflicts?)03:46
pfred1BioGeek lsmod | grep snd03:46
intricopfred1:  It's an arbitrary sex symbol, designed to generate broad appeal.03:46
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pfred1intrico it makes me dizzy03:47
Dimensionsali1234: after pppd call gprs  it said nothing just took the command on terminal03:47
pfred1intrico I'd prefer pics of Debbie and Ian03:47
BioGeekpfred1: the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2193503:47
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neuroeanyone: how do i change the default application a file is opened with?03:47
ali1234Dimensions: yeah it forks03:47
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pfred1BioGeek well if something showed up it is probably not the sound drivers themselves03:48
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ali1234Dimensions: check dmesg (i think)03:48
Dimensionshow can i verify if i am connected to the net ... besides i dont see any G sign or any thing on the fone ...03:48
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ali1234Dimensions: if it fails, try pppd call gprs nodetatch03:48
sagarp_^v^03:48
Paddy_EIRE<neuroe>system > preferences > preferred applications03:48
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BioGeekpfred1: it worked before, and I have the most recent versions of the multimedia codecs, but I don't know where to look next...03:48
specialbuddyhow come when I hit the alt key my computer gets messed up when using Xgl and Compiz?03:48
pfred1BioGeek yeah you're loading your sound drivers alrighty03:49
pfred1BioGeek alsa right?03:49
pfred1hmmm maybe not?03:50
BioGeekpfred1: erhh, what's alsa?03:50
pfred1the better stuff than oss now a days03:50
pfred1advanced linux sound arch03:50
pfred1or some such03:50
nozorroarchitecture03:51
BioGeekpfred1: OK, I have no clue if I'm running that...03:51
DravasI cant install Vmware on Ubuntu03:51
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Paddy_EIRE<neuroe> oops thts just for web and email, for any other file right click go to properties03:51
specialbuddyso does anyone else have weird things going on with their xgl compiz03:51
pfred1BioGeek looks like you use oss03:51
DravasI keep getting a error that I have vmware on my PC03:51
DravasBut I dont03:51
Dravas:\03:51
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neuroeshweet03:51
pfred1I haven't used oss in 6 years now?03:51
BioGeekpfred1: just sudo apt-get install alsa then?03:51
pfred1BioGeek nah not if they used to work03:51
NemesisUKspecialbuddy, no, seems fine here03:52
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Dimensionsali1234: pppd call gprs nodetatch  -->> nodetatch ??03:52
ShoeUnited!ubuntu03:52
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome03:52
pfred1BioGeek the next step would be to bring up a mixer03:52
ShoeUnited!chat03:52
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.03:52
ShoeUnited:/03:52
pfred1BioGeek and make sure you aren't muted and levels are right03:52
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Paddy_EIREcan anyone help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i2190003:52
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BioGeekpfred1: I have checked that I'm not muted, but how do I bring up a mixer?03:52
pfred1BioGeek one annoyance with alsa is they muted by default on install!03:52
marco__" Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system,"03:52
marco__ermm03:52
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marco__Ubuntu is a linux distribution my friends03:53
Hail_Spacecakeyeah, they're different ndiswrapper version numbers03:53
marco__GNU/Linux is the operating system03:53
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pfred1marco__ I thought it was a hack of debian03:53
ali1234Dimensions: yes03:53
ben__Guys, any reason why my Ubuntu inistall keeps bogging down until it crashes?03:53
marco__pfred1, yes, and Debian isn't an operating system03:53
marco__it's a linux distribution03:53
pfred1marco__ I never said it was03:53
Axe_marco__ and linux is an operating system?03:53
Dimensionsali1234:  that says unrecognised option03:53
marco__Axe_, no03:53
pfred1Axe_ no LInux is a kernel03:54
Paddy_EIRElinux is just a kernal03:54
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marco__GNU/Linux is the operating system03:54
ali1234Dimensions: nodetach03:54
Axe_right...03:54
ali1234Dimensions: i spelt it wrong03:54
pfred1marco__ are you RMS in disguise?03:54
ben__Guys, any reason why my Ubuntu inistall keeps bogging down until it crashes?03:54
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nozorroBioGeek: With some sound cards one has to use the weirdest controls to get sound again. Make sure you enable all the controls in gnome-volume-control, and then open all the channels.03:54
pfred1marco__ do you bathe?03:54
DravasAhhhhhhhhh I cant install VMware Workstation because it says I have vmware installed But I dont what should I do03:54
marco__pfred1, lol03:54
kjmben_ : there could be lots of reasons.  Error messages and/or more information would be useful.03:54
marco__pfred1, actually, RMS is probably what scares people away from linux03:55
pfred1calling Linux an OS isn't really the end of the world03:55
Dimensionsali1234: it says -->> Failed to open /dev/ttyACM0: Invalid argument03:55
marco__I didn't say it was03:55
marco__I said that Ubuntu wasn't an OS03:55
kjmAnyone here installed Gaim and had success with the xFire plugin?03:55
pfred1not technically coeewct but ppl know what you mean03:55
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ali1234Dimensions: well, did you verify that /dev/ttyACM0 actually works?03:55
pfred1marco__ no but it is what most people think an OS is03:55
DravasAhhhhhhhhh I cant install VMware Workstation because it says I have vmware installed But I dont what should I do03:55
alinuxGuyHello i am the website, http://swaroopch.info/text/Byte_of_Python:First_Steps, a link i got from the ubuntu website int he python section and it tells me to start the python intereperter how to do i do that?03:55
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pfred1marco__ and language is just about communication03:56
ben__kjm: It doesn't print any messages. It just bogs down, freezes a few times, then crashes. It's done it twize03:56
connerDravas, are you on Windows or Linux?03:56
ArcliteI love Ubuntu... it's helped me switch 3 of my friends to Mac OS X. Thanks, guys!03:56
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kjmwhat do you mean by "bogs down"03:56
Paddy_EIREanyone fancy helping me with this --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i2190003:56
pfred1Dravas crack or D all of the above?03:56
marco__pfred1, yes, and if we let words lose their exact meaning, then the communication becomes fuzzy and uncertain03:56
Dravasconner Linux03:56
ben__I installed JRE2 today, could that be it?03:56
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Dimensionsali1234: i only followed the way you told me as i dont know how to deal with it on my self ... i searched only there were many manuals and blogs but all different from each others tried all of them none worked for me ...03:56
DravasIts the evalutation version03:56
pfred1marco__ ain't being human grand?03:56
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Axe_Arclite: wtf?03:56
kjmArclite : Ubuntu has switched people to OS X???  How does that make Ubuntu look good?03:56
connerDravas, what evaluation version?03:57
ali1234Dimensions: did you install picocom and try to send an AT command to /dev/ttyACM0?03:57
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pfred1Steve Jobs wanted to be the antichrist but the devil wouldn't have him!03:57
Dimensionsi had once conneted with wvdial but couldn't ping or any thing else but even now i can't connect with wvdial ...03:57
kjmI admit, I have an iBook which I dual boot with, and OS X is good.....but that is insane03:57
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BioGeekpfred1: done, still no sound :(03:57
alinuxGuyI am trying to learn to use python and im at the website http://swaroopch.info/text/Byte_of_Python:First_Steps it tells me ot open the python interpereter will osm 1 tell me how to open the pythoin intereperter?03:57
DravasVMware Workstation 5 VMware-workstation-5.0.0-13124.tar.gz03:57
ben__kjm: It freezes, goes slower and slower and slower, and freezes a few more times until it crashes03:57
Arclitekjm, Axe_: Ubuntu showed them that Windows wasn't all it was cracked up to be. They wouldn't look at the Mac OS, they were too biased against it being "gay" and "slow" and "crap". Ubuntu was a stepping stone.03:58
mikedi am trying to run a binary app and it keeps saying it can't find the shared library libglade-2.0.so.0.  I installed libglade from synaptic and from source but the program still won't run.  What else can I try?03:58
ben__Could it be a problem with a weird memory/proc leak in JRE2?03:58
pfred1BioGeek OK one thing that even i don't have a full grasp of is the many different things that are "sound" with a computer03:58
connerDravas, is that what you're trying to install?03:58
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andrewskialinuxGuy: hit up #python; they'll be able to help you there.03:58
beerfanI am no longer able to "switch user" in gnome (stay logged in but log in a different user). I see a console screen which is starting or stopping some services and then it pops back to the screensaver login for the current user. Any suggestions about to troubleshoot this?03:58
roostishawis it safe to upgrade to the latest xorg stuff?03:58
kjmok then.03:58
DravasYer conner03:58
pfred1BioGeek like there is wav sound then there is midi sound03:58
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kjmroostisha : Yes, all has been fixed.03:58
alinuxGuyok thanks03:58
pfred1BioGeek you can have one and not the other03:58
Dimensionsali1234: i have installed it but donno how to sent AT command to ttyACM003:58
ali1234ben__: do you have 256mb or less and are you using any of these apps? firefox, evince (pdf viewer) evolution?03:58
connerDravas, try the VMWare player first. It has a package built for Ubuntu.03:58
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ali1234Dimensions: picocom /dev/ttyACM003:58
pfred1BioGeek I assume you mean wav sound though correct?03:58
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BioGeekpfred1: I know I was able to play mp3 and .ogg files in the past, not sire about midi and wav...03:59
ali1234Dimensions: then type AT and press enter03:59
ali1234Dimensions: if it says "OK" then it's working. if not, then it isn't working03:59
pfred1BioGeek mp3 and ogg would be wav03:59
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pfred1BioGeek what app you play files with?03:59
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alinuxGuywhen i tryed to go to #python nothing happened are u sure its even a channel?04:00
pfred1BioGeek there are deamons that hijack sound too like arts and esd is it?04:00
BioGeekpfred1: I mostly used Totem movie player04:00
ben__alil234: System Specs: P4 2.4cGhz cpu; 1258MBs Corsair RAM, 540GBs hard disk space04:00
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marco__alinuxGuy, you need to register your nick04:00
alinuxGuyhow?04:00
pfred1BioGeek try ps aux | grep -i art04:00
marco__/msg nickserv help04:00
ben__alil234: It also ties up my cpu 100%04:00
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ben__it's crazy!04:01
Dimensionsit says ttyACM0 invalid argument ...04:01
beerfanI am no longer able to "switch user" in gnome (stay logged in but log in a different user). I see a console screen which is starting or stopping some services and then it pops back to the screensaver login for the current user. Any suggestions about to troubleshoot this?04:01
Dimensionsali1234:04:01
AustLawhow do I stop getting a channel list once it has started?04:01
roostishawis it safe to upgrade to the latest xorg stuff?04:01
ben__ctrl+c maybe04:01
Dimensionsali1234: this is what i got ... FATAL: cannot open /dev/ttyACM0: Invalid argument04:01
BioGeekpfred1: gives no running process04:01
connerroostishaw, I just did. Everything seems fine.04:01
roostishawconner, but wasn't there a big issue with it being broken?04:02
pfred1BioGeek art seems to be the major offender there are others though04:02
pfred1BioGeek artsd I believe it is?04:02
connerroostishaw, yep. But it was fixed almost immediately.04:02
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Dravaswtf04:02
pfred1BioGeek I believe that oss is single channel04:02
roostishawconner, oh, ok. ive been away for a while, so thank you!04:02
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DravasNow I get an error in package04:02
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Dravaswhen installing the player04:02
ali1234Dimensions: chmod a+rw /dev/ttyACM004:02
fuocoubuntu really needs some usable bittorrent client04:02
ali1234Dimensions: with sudo04:03
connerDravas, what is the error?04:03
BioGeekpfred1: nothing for eds or artsd either04:03
pfred1BioGeek like if one app is using sound no other app can sort of a thing04:03
ali1234Dimensions: then try picocom again04:03
Dravasnvm04:03
pfred1BioGeek well if art didn't turn it up nothing will04:03
BioGeekpfred1: I see04:03
ali1234Dimensions: if it still doesn't work, then i don't know what else to try04:03
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pfred1BioGeek alsa depending on the card you can have like 32 events going at a time04:03
connerDravas, "nvm"?04:03
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ben__So, any ideas as to my problem?04:04
pfred1BioGeek so you could see how a sound deamon could mess ya up04:04
DravasNevermind = nvm04:04
pfred1quothe the raven nevermore!04:04
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ali1234ben__: what kind of time period are we talking about?04:04
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mineraleI read somewhere that nvidia has released new drivers, how would I install them ?04:05
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connerDravas, sorry. I thought it was non-volatile memory04:05
pfred1BioGeek that'd be my next line of investigation if some sound deamon hasn't hijacked your sound on you04:05
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connerminerale, the easiest way to to wait a few days for the package to be uploaded to the Ubuntu servers.04:05
fuocooh i ruined my system04:05
BioGeekpfred1: OK, thanks for helping me investigating this.04:05
ben__ali1234: I ran my system for about an hour or two between each. Both times it was after running Azureus.04:06
mastastealthHey guys. I bought this ZD1211b based wireless key. I tried a howto on the forums (on a desktop) that didnt work. I check the main driver's page & followed THOSE instructions (on my laptop) and they did work! But I need it to work on the desktop :P I think I've compiled the drivers so many times, that even if I did it right (from the main page) that it wouldnt work. Is there a way to clear out all the drivers I might have inst04:06
mastastealthalled?04:06
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ali1234ben__: check top to see what's using all your resources i guess. and then kill it :)04:06
pfred1BioGeek there is always the classic http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO/04:06
mineraleconner: will the auto update work on that package?04:06
lostincIs there a non-Evolution task manager for the task bar?04:06
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ben__how do I launch top?04:06
minerale conner: ie unfree packages ?04:06
ali1234ben__: type "top" in a console04:07
connerminerale, it should work. As long as you have the current package installed.04:07
pfred1ben__ type it into the command line?04:07
ben__kk04:07
DravasI cant install it at all04:07
DravasVmware Workstation04:07
DravasBecause it says that I have vmware installed04:07
BioGeekpfred1: OK, give me some time to grok that one04:07
pfred1BioGeek yeah I could retype it but someone already has for me :)04:07
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ben__There a reason is lists three users on my systen?04:08
jbroomeyou have vmware player installed?04:08
pfred1BioGeek you'll get to hear Linus say how he says Linux04:08
ali1234ben__: depends which users04:08
pfred1BioGeek always a gas04:08
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connerDravas, there should be an un-install script with the workstation package if you've already tried installing it.04:08
ben__Never mind. me root and sys04:08
DravasI did04:08
DravasI installed it04:08
Dravasand uninstalled it04:08
connerDravas, if you try installing the player package, it should give you a specific error.04:08
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Dravasgah04:08
fogoshi somebody knows the command for install ubuntu from live-cd on boot optios04:09
BioGeekpfred1: nice, I'm looking forward to hear him saying it :)04:09
fuocoi used partitionmagic to resize windows xp ntfs partition and make space for ubuntu, but it failed miserably leaving me with unbootable system that reboots itself in a loop - anyone knows how to deal with that ?04:09
eXcentraDoes anybody know of any audio players that support unicode characters? (other than Rhythmbox)04:09
pfred1BioGeek the .au file04:09
pfred1 41493 May 28  2003 english.au04:09
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alinuxGuyHwo do i open a shell prompt?04:10
alinuxGuyHow*04:10
ben__go to apps then accessories04:10
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conneralinuxGuy, applications, accessories, terminal04:10
ben__then click terminal04:10
alinuxGuykk04:10
jn-i am having an issue with both network-manager-gnome and knetworkmanager.. if you are familar with either of these please let me know04:11
jn-i could use some help04:11
pfred1kdeinit: kaboodle -icon kaboodle -miniicon kaboodle -caption Kaboodle /mnt/d1/english.au04:11
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sethkjn-, try asking a more specific question04:11
Ademanhow do you go about creating a package?04:11
jn-ok well, with both apps. they recognize the wifi card but htey do not show any available networks..04:11
pfred1Ademan it can't be very hard judging by the sheer volume of packages floating aorund04:11
lostincIs there a way to have a password protected folder in GNOME?04:12
sethkjn-, that's specific to wireless, has nothing to do with either of the apps you mentioned04:12
jn-at one time network-manager-gnome worked on this machine04:12
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pfred1lostinc your home dir should be "protected"04:12
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jn-sethk: ok. i am connected now with wireless.. setting set in network-admin + some wpa entries in a file for wpa.04:12
nozorrolostinc: you could set up a special user account for that04:13
jn-wpa and auto discovery is the reason i would like to get one of those apps working04:13
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pfred1nozorro you mean my mommy was wrong when she told me that i was special?04:13
sethkjn-, sounds good04:13
jn-sethk: what is keeping these apps from displaying the networks?04:13
nozorropfred1: *everyone* is special. thus, every user account is special04:14
sethkjn-, lower level configuration.  the wireless must be set up, at least partially, to even see the list of networks.04:14
pfred1nozorro you get a gold star04:14
_w^x_!mythtv04:14
ubotumythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/04:14
jn-sethk: i am not following you.04:14
Dimensionsali1234: that doesn't work for me still :(04:14
sethkjn-, but you should concentrate on getting it to work at the command line level, then the gui apps will follow automatically04:14
pfred1mythtv is just that a myth!04:14
Dimensionscan we try wvdial or something ?04:14
jn-sethk: can i msg04:15
sethkjn-, I don't think it will help you as much as asking here.  I'm just trying to make the question specific enough so that you get the answer you need.04:15
pfred1bittorrent is for timeswapping TV04:15
sethkjn-, the question is, how do you display the list of wireless networks in range?04:15
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sethkjn-, if you ask about those two apps, people who know that answer, but don't use those apps, won't answer you.04:15
jbroomei use wifi-radar04:15
spiderwormanyone know how to get svideo tv output working?04:15
sethkjn-, see, there's one already  :)_04:16
spiderwormis there a gui tool for gnome to do this?04:16
ali1234Dimensions: i dont know how to use wvdial04:16
pfred1spiderworm I just have a big monitor :)04:16
spiderwormpfred1: :)04:16
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pfred1movies are awesome on it04:16
spiderwormpfred1: well im trying to hook up my laptop to a tv to help my sister in law out with her presentation04:16
spiderwormbut i cant get tv out working04:17
spiderwormand im starting to look like an idiot04:17
spiderwormso any help would be appreciated04:17
pfred1spiderworm I not so sure if it supported with all chipsets04:17
HeathenDanhow do i set autoaway in xchat?04:17
kjmheh, that's something we're all used to.04:17
jbroomeHeathenDan: you dont04:17
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HeathenDanlol, darn04:17
spiderwormpfred1: well how do i try? theres no gui tool that i can find....04:17
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ali1234spiderworm: sometimes you have to plug in the TV before you boot the computer and / or change a setting in the bios04:17
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cam_anyoe here know where thelinuxdcpp channel is/04:18
kjmspiderworm : What video chipset does the laptop have?04:18
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pfred1ali1234 I bet knowing what the hardware is can be of some help too04:18
Dimensionsali1234: thanks alot for you efforts bro ... can i ask one more thing ... that is if i get it working and want cron to auto dial what i will be adding as we use pppd call gprs is there any single script of it that i can add in cron to dial on time ?04:18
fuocoanyone knows a bittorrent client that supports upnp ?04:18
spiderwormali1234: well it was plugged in before, and i have done this before with windows on the same laptop04:18
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spiderwormkjm: im not sure... this is an inspiron 9400 if you're familiar with htose04:18
shawnr_Where is the proper place to place custom links for running programs from the command line. /usr/bin ?  /usr/local/bin ?  or some where else?04:18
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spiderwormfuoco: let me see if i can figure it out04:19
ali1234Dimensions: you can make pppd dial on demand, if that's what you want04:19
pfred1spiderworm yeah hardware manaufacuters are much more keen on supporting Windows04:19
kjmspiderworm - it working in windows != working in linux, just like working in linux != working in windows04:19
connerspiderworm, have you tried Automatix?04:19
jn-shawnr_: /usr/local/bin works04:19
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spiderwormconner: no04:19
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shawnr_jn-, thanks04:19
jbroome!automatix04:19
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.04:19
Dimensionsali1234: how can i implement that ?04:19
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pfred1spiderworm your first order of buisness would be to find out what hardware you have try cat /proc/pci or some such04:19
connerspiderworm, I've used that to setup other things. Haven't tried it with S-video yet. You might want to try it.04:19
kjmspiderworm : I'll search around.....let you know if I find anythin.04:20
ali1234Dimensions: edit gprs and add "demand" i think04:20
milk[fowlduck] does totem-xine or totem-gstreamer play more media formats?04:20
jn-so wifi radar picks up all the networks in range..04:20
spiderwormthanks guys04:20
jfletcher[mac] whats the cmd to change the locales?04:20
ali1234Dimensions: check man pppd for all the options in that file04:20
fuocospiderworm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14418804:20
jfletcher[mac] not reconfigure, but change04:20
nozorromilk: totem-xine definitely04:20
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fuocospiderworm: but it's not in the repository04:20
milk[fowlduck] nozorro, ok, thanks04:20
milk[fowlduck] nozorro, does mplayer play even more?04:20
Dimensionsthanks ali1234 :)04:21
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pfred1milk[fowlduck]  mplayer will play random noise if ya feed it to it04:21
spiderwormhmmm, going to just boot to windows04:21
spiderworml8s04:21
jfletcher[mac] unlucky04:21
milk[fowlduck] pfred1, ummm, what?04:21
nozorromilk, don't really, i believe so, but totem fits better into gnome doesnt it04:21
milk[fowlduck] nozorro, thats what I was thinking04:22
jn-i am wondering why knetworkmanager does not display the available networks in my range... when i start it it says NetworkManager disconnceted.  wifiradar works.04:22
pfred1nozorro don't like gmplayer do you?04:22
ali1234milk[fowlduck] : cat /dev/urandom | mplayer -04:22
iyank4hello all, why grub send error 17 while booting04:22
vikanyone here have much experience with 915resolution to modify video BIOS on intel chipsets?04:22
jfletcher[mac] jn-: does knetworkmanager support wireless?04:23
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nozorromilk, for the standard p### cr## et al, totem-xine works ok. the problem is with the embedded videos on news sites etc04:23
milk[fowlduck] ali1234, and that means what for me??04:23
jn-jfletcher[mac] : yes it does.04:23
ali1234aw, that used to work as you would expect on gentoo. no more on ubuntu :(04:23
ali1234milk[fowlduck] : nothing in particular :/04:23
iyank4915resolution <-- i can set 1152x?? 75 hz04:24
milk[fowlduck] nozorro, so is mplayer better for embeded video?04:24
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jn-mplayer>vlc>xine imo04:24
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vikiyank: that04:25
vikiyank: that's what I'm trying to do04:25
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iyank4you just follow the manual, and add 1152x to xorg.conf04:25
jn-sethk: still here?04:26
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ben__Another Question. How come I cannot download anything at more then 40Kb/s on Ubuntu?04:26
mineralecould someone help me articulate this better: I've used both Red Hat Workstation and Ubuntu, altho I think ubuntu is prettier, the feel of gnome is more 'jittery' while in RH the graphics are more stable, does anyone else know what I'm talking about?04:27
vikiyank4: did that; but monitor is blank with high-pitched whine when it tries to start X04:27
fuocoi used partitionmagic to resize windows xp ntfs partition and make space for ubuntu, but it failed miserably leaving me with unbootable system that reboots itself in a loop - anyone knows how to deal with that ?04:27
nozorromilk, i have no idea really, after years with dozens of different toolkits y try to stay with gnome apps/interfaces as much as possible, and enjoy it. The app whose interface diverges too much from gnome gets thrown out asap. That's how it is on my machine. -- Or is mplayer gnomeish enough? Last i looked it had a weird childish interface04:27
johnnybutterkekshello04:27
johnnybutterkeksone more board about linux is online04:27
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ali1234ben__: what are you comparing it with?04:27
viknozorro: they've cleaned up mplayer a lot04:27
johnnybutterkekswww.linux-only.dl.am ;-)04:27
mineraleie each time I open on a window I see an extra flash04:28
ben__My windows XP download rate was on average 500-800Kb/s04:28
^DownDoes anyone know where I can get GTK in a .deb file?04:28
YeTr2looking for how to disable agpgart loading during boot04:28
ben__oops04:28
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ShoeUnitedI just wanna say thank you to everyone who's helped me these last 36 hours. ^_^04:28
ben__KB/s04:28
lostinchow can you tell what the DVD device name is and where its mount point is?04:28
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milk[fowlduck] nozorro, thanks :)04:28
nozorrovik, maybe i should have another look at mplayer then, i hope i won't have to use oss and and other strange backends04:28
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ali1234ben__: please clarify whether you mean kbits or kbytes04:29
iyank4i dont remember correctly, but it happen because something you set on the 915 conf file is wrong04:29
kjmlostinc - fstab?04:29
viknozorro: I think the main reason I use it is actually for mencoder. VLC seems just as nice04:29
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ben__I am on Comcast, 5.0Mbit/s should be faster then 40 kilobytes04:29
ShoeUnited!wine04:29
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:29
ShoeUnited!wow04:29
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php04:29
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Kbirdlostinc, dmesg | grep -i dvd will tell you the device name04:30
iyank4use th 915 utility to test vga bios (or something)04:30
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kjmlostinc - see /media04:30
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iyank4hellow, can anyone tell me why grub send error 1704:30
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forevertheunihi I'm having problems with fglrx in ubuntu :/04:31
forevertheuniwhen I fglrxinfo or glxinfo I have lots of errors04:31
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ali1234ben__: it depends what you download04:31
ali1234as im sure you are aware04:31
forevertheuniwith the starting '[fglrx]  API ERROR:'04:31
nozorrovik, yeah, VLC also seems to be nice, but again, maybe you have to have lived Linux in the 90 with gtk1, motif, athena and, and and ... it's SO nice to have a unified desktop now, even if the features are still a bit lacking04:31
forevertheuniI'm trying to put them in pastebin..but..04:32
forevertheuniit's slow04:32
ben__... Oh course it does. But my own server, based in New Jersey, I used to download from it at 840Kbytes/s and now it's at 40Kbytes/s04:32
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QC_PASSEDwhats "fwcutter"?04:32
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andrew_I need some help with themeing KDE04:32
YeTr2does anyone know the proper way of preventing dapper from loading specific modules, like agpgart?04:32
andrew_is there any way to get rid or the taskbar04:32
ali1234ben__: using what protocol?04:32
pfred1man i rebooted and ubuntu seems to have lost all of my network configurations04:32
QC_PASSEDpwned04:33
ben__http04:33
kjmandrew_ #kubuntu, #kde #kdelooks would all be better than here.04:33
andrew_thanks man04:33
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ShoeUnitedouch04:33
jfletcher[mac] YeTr2: download the theme, goto system -> preference -> theme or whatever then drag the .tar.gz file into it04:33
jfletcher[mac] it will automaticly install04:33
jfletcher[mac] select ur theme and ta-da04:33
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ali1234ben__: are you sure your windows setup was not set to use comcast's http proxy?04:33
jfletcher[mac] not YeTr2  sry04:34
nozorroYeTr2, i think you can do that in /etc/modutils.d/blacklist04:34
YeTr2jfletcher[mac] : now, do you wanna say that to the actual person :P04:34
ben__Yes, I set all that stuff up myself04:34
ali1234ben__: could also be a bad network card driver04:34
jfletcher[mac] YeTr2: :(04:34
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ali1234ben__: or a packet queueing issue04:34
ben__True... It's an onboard NIC based on one of the intel chipsets... Wonder where I could download....04:34
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jfletcher[mac] anyone know the cmd to "refresh" locales if you will..04:35
kjmanyone have the xfire plugin for gaim installed?04:35
bm0nkgnome or kde?04:35
bm0nkpersonal preference ?04:35
jfletcher[mac] gnome04:35
Athenongnome04:35
Harksawis folding@home anywhere on synaptic? is there some kind of liscense reason why it's not?04:35
ShoeUnitedben__:  Is it a sis?04:35
jfletcher[mac] text-based is better than both though ;)04:36
ben__A what?04:36
=== Ropechoborra Byes gente ! =) Nos vemos
jfletcher[mac] SiS is ancient man04:36
MadpilotHarksaw, there's a wiki page for F@H, I think04:36
ShoeUnitedSo? lol04:36
Athenoni wanna see someone play WoW in a linux terminal ;)04:36
ShoeUnitedThat doesn't stop people.04:36
ShoeUnitedBudget = budget.04:36
jfletcher[mac] :)04:36
MadpilotHarksaw, check help.ubuntu.com/community04:36
jfletcher[mac] i'd sooner not :p04:36
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ShoeUnitedIn a linux terminal O.o04:37
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ben__It's an onboard Nic. My mobo is a Abit IC7-G04:37
ShoeUnitedI play wine, but I wouldn't know where to being to do it in terminal...04:37
ShoeUnitedWell, I will play in wine.04:37
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jfletcher[mac] CEDEGA!04:37
nikiwhat would be the command to mount my DVD-ROM on my laptop?:04:38
jfletcher[mac] mount04:38
ShoeUnitedEek,  I'm not paying them 5/mo for a perfectly good wine ^_^04:38
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nikijfletcher[mac] , the whole command04:38
jfletcher[mac] depends what your drive is called etc04:38
Athenonuhh - depends niki04:38
pfred1ho bizarre i can ping from one box but not fro mthe other one04:38
Athenonmount <something> <something> ;)04:38
nikijfletcher[mac] , Athenon, how can i tell what the drive is called?04:38
jfletcher[mac] mount dvd://04:39
Athenonyou uhh...gotta go ls /dev04:39
jfletcher[mac] try that04:39
jfletcher[mac] if not04:39
ShoeUnitedIf they sold it as a package, sure, i'd buy it, buyt I'm already shelling 15 for WoW and 60/yr for an XBL gold membership, and 60/mo for internet.04:39
jfletcher[mac] ls -a /dev/04:39
ali1234niki: dmesg | grep DVD04:39
ShoeUnitedI've had it up to my eyebrows in subscriptions.04:39
jfletcher[mac] ShoeUnited: what currency?04:39
ShoeUnitedUSD04:40
jfletcher[mac] ah right04:40
ShoeUnitednp04:40
nikiali1234, it shows it as hdc04:40
jfletcher[mac] ur internets still cheaper than mine then atm04:40
ShoeUnitedAh, but is your broadband faster?04:40
jfletcher[mac] probly not, 2mb nothing special04:40
pfred1sone of a ...04:40
ShoeUnitedI get 200kb/s down04:40
YeTr2jfletcher[mac] : just as a note, wine support is getter _really_ good, and all cedega does is hack up their, how many years old, version of wine with 'fixes' to make it supported with their software04:41
jfletcher[mac] next month it goes to 24 for 24mb04:41
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nikii can't get any dvds to play, i think my dvd rom is not mounted...but i can't figure out how to mount it04:41
jfletcher[mac] now its 40 for 2mb04:41
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fiendskull9but only 30 up04:41
fiendskull9lol04:41
jfletcher[mac] YeTr2: good point04:41
ShoeUnited24mb I can't pray for that.04:41
ali1234niki: you do not need to mount a dvd to play it04:41
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jfletcher[mac] ShoeUnited: www.bethere.co.uk04:41
nikialil04:41
ali1234!/msg ubotu !dvd04:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu !dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:41
ali1234doh04:41
jfletcher[mac] lol04:42
pfred1hey is there a firewall in ubuntu?04:42
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jfletcher[mac] can be04:42
nikiali1234, i've already installed all codecs and libcssdvd204:42
tapoxHi everyone, I'm having trouble setting the time.04:42
pfred1OK how i check if I have a firewall in ubuntu?04:42
YeTr2pfred1: iptables is in ubuntu, therefore there is a firewall with ubuntu04:42
ali1234niki: then, mplayer dvd://04:42
YeTr2pfred1: sudo iptables -L04:42
pfred1YeTr2 there some gui tool to deal with it?04:42
Madpilotpfred1, Firestarter04:42
YeTr2pfred1: that, I do not know :P04:43
jfletcher[mac] who needs gui04:43
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connertapox, did your right click on the clock?04:43
ali1234niki: although here they load up automatically04:43
pfred1well i don't want a firewall on that box sorta useless being as it is internal04:43
nikiali1234, the error is : libdvdread: could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss04:43
alexdbkimhello04:43
YeTr2I have all my iptables with HTB queing done via command04:43
tapoxconner: And it asks for permission to open time-admin. I type in the password, and it gives me a blank window.04:43
connertapox, and then try "adjust date and time"?04:43
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Madpilotpfred1, by default iptables doesn't really do anything, so you can ignore it04:43
ali1234niki: sudo ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd04:43
ShoeUnitedI could never live with limited usage.04:43
jfletcher[mac] didnt think it was04:43
tapoxconner: I can't close it without force-quitting04:44
YeTr2jfletcher[mac] : then turn it into a terminal and run a gui on it from another machine04:44
pfred1Madpilot yeah it is all accept04:44
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connertapox, strange, it should come up with the "time and date settings" window.04:44
jfletcher[mac] YeTr2: lol, im not that bothered ;p04:44
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ShoeUnitedThe 14 pound has a limit04:44
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tapoxconner: It says that, but within the window is only a few gray boxes04:44
pfred1yeah i can ping out of that ubuntu box to my external box but not the other way aorund04:44
nikiali1234, that gave me this error : ln: creating symbolic link '/dev/dvd' to 'dev/hdc': File exists04:44
connertapox, do you have problems with any other windows?04:44
tapoxconner: nope.04:44
pfred1gonna check cable on this box04:44
DravasI converted a vmware Workstation RPM to Deb using Alien04:44
jfletcher[mac] ShoeUnited: lol, for 14 you would expect it, but 24 aint much04:44
Dravashow to run it04:44
YeTr2jfletcher[mac] : it does make my friends wonder how I'm playing doom3 on a p2 w/ 64mb memory :)04:44
pfred1From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable04:45
Donewhen i shutdown my system it halts well, but then i have to press the power button to completely turn it off, how can i do that automatic?04:45
ali1234niki: ls -lh /dev/dvd04:45
jfletcher[mac] YeTr2: lol, yea you could win some bets with that one actually.04:45
ShoeUnited 24 granted considering inflation, but that's still around 50 USD.04:45
pfred1wtf? this was working earlier today04:45
ali1234niki: where does the link go to?04:45
ScreaminIkeinstalling 6.06 (not ..1) and it seems to be hanging at "15% detecting file systems"04:45
ShoeUnitedBut for 24mb I'd hump for it.04:45
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YeTr2jfletcher[mac] : thou, it works better on gigabit ethernet than megabit04:45
connertapox, it sounds more like a display problem. Strange that it would only manifest with that window.04:45
bhearsumis there a way to use the traditional installer with adpper?04:45
YeTr210/100 megabit04:45
bhearsumerm, dapper, rather04:45
jfletcher[mac] ShoeUnited: thats about 2 and a half hours work here04:45
ScreaminIkeis there a cli method to install it?04:45
nikilrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-08-28 20:57 /dev/dvd -> hdc04:46
ShoeUnitedOuch, make me feel poor.04:46
tapoxconner: Could it be a config file it's trying to read, or a bug in time-admin?04:46
nikiali1234, ^^04:46
pfred1OK why would I get a good ping one way and not the other way on a LAN ?04:46
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jfletcher[mac] ShoeUnited: not for me, just for most people04:46
ShoeUnitedjfletcher[mac] : Around here that's about 7-10 hours.04:46
jfletcher[mac] :p04:46
ali1234niki: hmm, then it should work :/04:46
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MadpilotDone, does this bug report sound familiar: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-mouse/+bug/4877304:46
alexdbkimdmsantam, hey04:46
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nozorrotapox, can you  do a 'sudo ntpdate 0.europe.pool.ntp.org' in a terminal?04:46
birdfishCould someone please help me out with configuring firestarter?04:47
pfred1klees where you at in Jersey?04:47
nikiali1234, any other ideas? :(04:47
kleespfred1: East Orange04:47
ShoeUnitedI don't suppose england has room for another that jumped the colonies?04:47
alexdbkimwhiis alexdbkim04:47
jfletcher[mac] ShoeUnited: 2 and a half hours overtime a week and you got free 24mb internet then :p04:47
pfred1klees Summit :)04:47
jfletcher[mac] haha04:47
ali1234niki: no, sorry04:47
kleespfred1: pretty close04:47
YeTr2pfred1: hmm... routing table is messed up, firewall preventing replies on remote machine, firewall preventing outgoing pings on local machine, other machine is not on the same network, machines are on different subnets, thats all I can think of04:47
ScreaminIkeinstalling 6.06 (not ..1) and it seems to be hanging at "15% detecting file systems" is there any way to tell what's going on?04:47
tapoxDone: Failures in halting, restarting, or sleeping can usually be attributed to bugs in the kernel, or your BIOS. Updating the kernel will happen with regular updates, and may fix the problem. You're almost guaranteed to have BIOS updates, but it's not the most friendly of processes.04:47
ShoeUnitedI promise I like Dr. Who, Monty Python, Benny Hill...04:47
pfred1klees I seen your team play ours04:47
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jfletcher[mac] :D04:47
ShoeUnitedI know who ManU is. ^_^04:47
jfletcher[mac] the office?04:47
jfletcher[mac] EWWW04:48
ali1234ShoeUnited: ha! mistake! nobody in england likes benny hill...04:48
kleespfred1: im not in high school if that's what u mean04:48
pfred1klees we used to be in the same football conference04:48
ShoeUnitedPsh, benny hill is liked.04:48
pfred1klees years ago they used to play04:48
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nalioth!offtopic04:48
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:48
ShoeUnitedHe was on TV forever.04:48
jfletcher[mac] I like the music to it, but it's annncieent comedy04:48
Donei get the message "Will now Halt" and then i turn the power of manually04:48
kleespfred1: and i didnt go to to EO HS either lol04:48
kleespfred1: but thx for the info04:48
pfred1klees I can remember the cheerleaders from there chanting E O E O04:48
jfletcher[mac] monty python is cool though04:48
tapoxnozorro: adjust time server 193.120.10.3 offset 0.313524 sec was the result. I guess it worked?04:48
naliothShoeUnited: pfred1: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please04:48
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ShoeUnitedOMG04:48
ShoeUnitedI thought I was in OT.04:48
nathanaelI set up ndiswrapper, installed the driver, ran modprobe ndiswrapper, and ndiswrapper -l shows driver installed, hardware installed - but when I click on the network manager on the taskbar - only wired shows up?!?04:48
kleespfred1: cool04:48
pfred1klees hard one to forget really :)04:48
connertapox, could be. It seems to work fine on my system.04:48
kleespfred1: lol04:48
alexdbkimdmsantam, hey YOU04:48
nozorrotapox, yep it did. that should help you at least to get around the botched time config dialog04:49
ShoeUnitedTalk about wrong window.04:49
ShoeUnitedSorry.04:49
pfred1klees this was in the early 80s04:49
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Athenontest04:49
Athenonhehe04:49
tapoxnozorro: The time is set properly, UTC wise. But I need to change time zones.04:49
kleespfred1: ahh i c04:49
pfred1klees I graduated HS in 82 so ...04:49
kleespfred1: grand pa is that u???04:49
DoneMadpilot, i didnt notices if my mouse is still powered04:50
kleespfred1: jk =D04:50
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Donenoticed*04:50
peteweezI have an issue with K9Copy and libdvdread.  Whenever I try to copy a dvd with its original menus using K9Copy (without original menus isn't affected), I get a fatal error.  Anybody know anything about this?  Error message from console is available.  System is Debian Sarge/Etch.04:50
Arafangi1nDamn.04:50
pfred1anyone know what would make a LAN connection ping in one direction but not the other?04:50
kleespfred1: i graduated HS in 9604:50
Arafangi1nOne of my friends typed: sudo rm -rf /04:50
MadpilotDone, sounds like your bug is more complex than just "USB not powering down" like mine is...04:50
YeTr2Your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elder berries, now go away before I taunt you again!04:50
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Arafangi1nON MY LAPTOP04:50
MadpilotArafangi1n, your friend is an idiot04:50
pfred1klees time does indeed march on04:50
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achandrawhat up? all...04:51
naliothklees: pfred1: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic04:51
nozorrotapox: well, you could edit /etc/timezone, if you know what you have to enter there that is04:51
pfred1 Ignoring ALL messages from nalioth!*@*04:51
Arafangi1nMadpilot: Funny, would be doing it as a non-root user, NOT FUNNY is doing it as root!04:51
Donemaybe is not a bug maybe i just have to configure it to turn the power off04:51
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naliothpeteweez: why don't you pastebin your errors and bring us the URL ?04:51
pfred1nalioth feel free to do the same :)04:51
tapoxnozorro: Is this worthy of a bug report?04:51
peteweezput it in #flood?04:51
naliothpeteweez: a pastebin would be better, it'll float away in #flood04:51
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MadpilotArafangi1n, so exactly how screwed up is your machine now?04:52
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ali1234tapox: nozorro: /etc/timezone should be a symlink to something in /usr/share/zoneinfo04:52
Arafangi1nMadpilot: At first, I though it was just my apt archive deleted.04:52
MadpilotDone, no, it's a bug, it should shut down by itself04:52
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Arafangi1nMadpilot: It ran for about one second.04:52
peteweeznalioth: ok can you give me a pastebin link?04:52
kleespfred1: so how's linux treating u?04:52
pfred1nalioth! fucking prick04:52
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DoneMadpilot, have you find any solution?04:52
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ali1234tapox: er, /etc/localtime sorry04:52
MadpilotDone, not yet, no04:52
Arafangi1nMadpilot: But, it deleted all of my /var/run, plus other directories in /var04:52
pfred1klees usually pretty good thanks for asking04:52
Arafangi1nMadpilot: And who knows what else.04:53
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pfred1klees bit new to ununtu04:53
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Gun_SmokeAre there any known issues for WINE 0.9.20 and 6.06?04:53
MadpilotArafangi1n, reinstall time, I think... after you beat the sh*t out of your buddy, of course... :|04:53
Arafangi1nGun_Smoke: Of course.04:53
kleespfred1: same here04:53
DoneMadpilot, thank you anyway04:53
Arafangi1nGun_Smoke: Wine is unfinished software.04:53
nozorrotapox, it does seem so. maybe you could start from the terminal: 'sudo time-admin', to see why the dialog doesn't come up04:53
connertapox, can you go to System, Administration, Time and date?04:53
Bot_Builderhttp://xkcd.com/04:53
Bot_Builderhehehe04:53
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pfred1klees but i have been running LInux for over 10 years now04:53
Arafangi1nMadpilot: I'm just glad I've kept my /home partition separate.04:53
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tapoxconner: it produces the same result04:53
kleespfred1: nice.  i started linux 3 years ago04:54
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Gun_SmokeArafangi1n: I can't get it to run at all.04:54
kleespfred1: never perfectioned my skills so i still consider myself a noob04:54
Gun_SmokeArafangi1n:  winecfg just hangs.04:54
peteweeznalioth: pastebinned in paste.ubuntu-nl.org under name peteweez04:54
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Arafangi1nGun_Smoke: Don't use winecfg.04:54
tapoxnozorro: Nothing printed out.04:54
pfred1annoying little brats on this channel04:54
Gun_SmokeArafangi1n:  Then use?04:54
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Arafangi1nGun_Smoke: If you're willing to start again from scratch, type: rm -rf ~/.wine04:54
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Arafangi1nGun_Smoke: Then, just type: "wine /path/to/exe04:55
Arafangi1n"04:55
Gun_SmokeArafangi1n:  I already removed it via synaptic04:55
enderhegemonHello. I'd like to install Ubuntu on my PowerBook G4, but I don't want to destructively parition my HD. Unfortunately, gparted on the LiveCD doesn't support HFS+. Any other options. Message me private if you can help...I get lost in all these conversation. Thanks!04:55
naliothpeteweez: did it have a URL ?04:55
Arafangi1nGun_Smoke: You'll still have ~/.wine04:55
peteweeznalioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2193604:55
erikHey- Dapper 6.06 is on my t23 thinkpad, but it cannot mount any cd's... How can I get it to work with the cd drive?04:55
jfletcher[mac] re-configure them?04:56
Gun_SmokeArafangi1n:  Ok, done.04:56
nozorrotapox: i know there's some log saved somewhere on the system from the backend for time-config, but i can't remember it right know. someone else please?04:56
naliothpeteweez: you can add that URL to your question for best results04:56
peteweezok04:56
Arafangi1nGun_Smoke: Generally you'll get the best results if you have the very latest wine installed. What app are you trying to run?04:56
DravasWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?04:57
DravasFudge04:57
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peteweeznalioth: Did the errors make any sense to you?04:57
DravasI need that to configure VMware04:57
naliothpeteweez: i'm looking, gimme a minute please04:57
tapoxnozorro: What's the name of the package time-admin is part of? gnome-admin-tools?04:57
DravasWhere are the c header files for my running kernel?04:57
nalioth!headers04:58
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages04:58
nozorrotapox, yeah, i think so04:58
tapoxnozorro: Close. Gnome-system-tools04:58
DravasWhere are the c header files for my running kernel?04:58
dionhey anyone in here have very much experience setting up ndisweappwe?04:58
dionndiswrapper?04:58
DravasI need them for VMware04:58
naliothpeteweez: unfortunately, i can make nothing of your errors.  keep asking every 5 minutes or so  :(04:58
nalioth!tell Dravas about headers04:58
Gun_SmokeArafangi1n:  Well at first started to 'try' running it with dvdshrink. But I need to run Xactimate..04:58
connertapox, the name is gnome-system-tools.04:58
peteweezOK thanks for your time anyway :).04:59
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wolfhello04:59
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nozorroconner you're right there04:59
wolfI have what seems to be a very weird problem.04:59
alexdbkimhello04:59
peteweeznalioth: Obviously it's something to do with libdvdread but I don't know what...I've heard about newer versions of libdvdread having issues with my software, and I have the newer version04:59
dmsantamalexdbkim hey04:59
Arafangi1nGun_Smoke: Running what?05:00
Hiryuanyone opengl programmers in here experienced with libglew under ubuntu?05:00
alexdbkimdmsantan yo05:00
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wolffor some reason when set to dhcp, dns resolves, but when set to a static IP and the same dns settings are used in the resolv.conf, it doesn't resolve anything.05:00
Gun_SmokeArafangi1n:  Running? Xactimate?05:00
alexdbkimdmsantam, yo05:00
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dmsantamalexdbkim, it doesn't highlight for you?05:01
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alexdbkimdmsantam, nope05:01
naliothpeteweez: perhaps you can downgrade it ?05:01
dmsantamalexdbkim it does for me.. hmm05:01
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dmsantamalexdbkim your name comes out bright yellow05:01
bm0nkwhy you think the net was born?! porn porn porn!!!!!05:01
ben__holy Crap! Intel has a Wiki O_o05:01
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peteweeznalioth: Yeah I installed older libs but I don't know how to force the prog to use the old libs and not the new libs.  Do I need to recompile my prog?05:02
ben__I point, click, and hug my horn to porn porn pooooorn!05:02
bm0nkfor!05:02
bm0nkPORN!05:02
viatorhow do you play those quicktime .mov files?05:02
bm0nkTHE INTERNET IS FOR PORN05:02
naliothpeteweez: remove the newer libs ?05:02
bm0nkME UP ALL NIGHT HUGGING ME HORN05:02
Gun_SmokeArafangi1n:  Getting wine via synaptic its only marking on file... Although a couple are listed in reference to it.. Do I need others it's not telling me?05:02
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Arafangi1nGun_Smoke: It's been a long time since I've used a packaged wine, but you should only need wine.05:03
lavihi all05:03
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cyanicsevening folks.05:03
bm0nkhey guys sorry im back my dad came in and messed about with my computer05:03
tjcarterben, bm0nk: okay kids, enough of that.05:03
enderhegemonIs there anyone that can help me partition my HFS+ volume without destroying the data? I'd like to install Ubuntu on my PowerBook G405:03
_azrael!offtopic> bm0nk05:03
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DravasWhere is the location of the Linux headers05:03
Arafangi1nGun_Smoke: Wine's been having a hard transition period, as you used to have to have a manually configured wine configuration, then you had a manual "wine setup" program, etc, but now wine does it automatically.05:03
lavilavi, I edited the file XTerm-color, but the system seems does not read that file05:03
ben__tjcarter: Sorry :s05:03
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cyanicsenderhegemon, you will need to find a tool to "resize" the partition.05:03
laviwhy ?05:03
cyanicsenderhegemon, with HFS, i don't know if something exists.05:04
DravasAhh05:04
tjcarterben: the song is funny as hell, this just isn't the right place, etc  =)05:04
DravasWhere is the location of the Linux headers05:04
ben__:P05:04
bm0nkeveryone needs a rebel05:04
kromelMy Nvidia card fails OpenGL test in Cedega...05:04
dmsantamDravas install them05:04
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tjcarterDravas: the linux-headers package puts them in /usr/src05:04
laviI also edit the line -color in .Xresources file. and xrdb it05:04
DravasI have them05:04
viatoryeah use qtparted or gparted05:04
DBOkromel, did you install the nvidia-glx driver?05:04
peteweeznalioth: Removing new libs breaks many other packages...not an option.05:04
enderhegemonI read somewhere that parted can do it, but I don't understand how, exactly05:04
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enderhegemongparted on the LiveCD doesn't support HFS+05:04
lavidid anyboday encounter that issue?05:04
Arafangi1nOne problem I had with my system was that it was using software acceleration, and not hardware - how do I fix this? (Yes, I had the ATI proprietary drivers installed)05:05
tjcarterDravas: There are some linux headers (libc is compiled against them), but they're just the ones linux is compiled against..05:05
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kromelDBO, um, not after I installed the latest NVIDIA driver05:05
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dmsantamalexdbkim how about now?05:05
naliothpeteweez: i suspect you need a more knowledgable person05:05
dmsantamalexdbkim, or now?05:05
alexdbkimnope05:05
tjcarterDravas: which you want to use depends on what you're doing  =)05:05
kromelI am a noob05:05
dmsantamalexdbkim: or now?05:05
alexdbkimnope05:05
naliothpeteweez: keep asking about every 5 minutes05:05
peteweezok05:05
dmsantamalexdbkim damn05:05
alexdbkimnope05:05
alexdbkim:P05:05
DravasI am setting up VMware05:05
DBOkromel, ok, why dont you hop on over to #ubuntu-xgl , and we can take care of you there05:05
shawnr_everytime i create an archive '.tar.gz' of my home directory and save it on an eternal drive... the archive is damaged... What am I doing wrong?05:05
kromelokay, sounds good.  Thanks!05:05
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Arafangi1nshawnr_: Did you umount it?05:05
dmsantamDravas apt-get install linux-headers-38605:06
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shawnr_Arafangi1n, while it was working?05:06
dmsantamDravas then they'll be in /usr/src05:06
shawnr_Arafangi1n, no05:06
shawnr_Arafangi1n, it was on the entire time it was archiving05:06
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enderhegemonThanks for your help..05:07
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tjcarterDBO: if I go in there and ask about the bug that prevents the installation of the nvidia development headers, will anyone actually consider fixing the problem?  =)05:07
kjmshawnr_ : What command are you using to create the archive?  How large is it?05:08
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shawnr_kjm, let me look in my backup script05:08
DBOtjcarter, I will look at it sure05:08
DBOtjcarter, but patience, Im backlogged05:08
tjcarterAt the moment, Ubuntu maintains my statement that every single Linux distribution screws up OpenGL and will not follow the industry-agreed-upon Linux ABI.05:08
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rosshello05:09
tjcarterDBO: it's real simple--the nvidia-glx package needs to provide libgl105:09
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shawnr_tar cpzf $backupPath --exclude-from=$excludefile /home/$USER 2>/dev/null05:09
DBOtj9991, yes it does05:09
shawnr_kjm, tar cpzf $backupPath --exclude-from=$excludefile /home/$USER 2>/dev/null05:09
rossCan anyone help me connecting my laptop to my wireless router?05:09
peteweezmaybe05:09
Axe_I need to find a file, what command can I run05:09
tj9991no it doesnt!05:10
cyanics"find . | grep "file""05:10
peteweezross: do you have your card hooked into your laptop?05:10
tj9991>:(05:10
rossthanks.....im a complete nub.....i just figured out how to connect with ethernet05:10
rossits a built in wireless05:10
tjcarterthat's all, add that and the problem goes away.  Well, excepting for the expectation that the OpenGL lib always goes into /usr/lib, always, so it can be dlopen'd05:10
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Arafangi1nshawnr_: ALWAYS umount it before removing it.05:10
peteweezross: what distro?  Ubuntu?05:10
Arafangi1nshawnr_: Just like windows, incidently.05:10
shawnr_Arafangi1n, i do. everytime05:11
rosshold on checking..........5.0405:11
DBOtjcarter, just apt-get source it and change the rules in the debian directory if you want to change that05:11
DBOits a simple change05:11
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kjmshawnr_ : I have never seen the -p switch before, what's that for?05:11
tjcarterdlopen() being the one way we have as OpenGL developers to work around the various distributions collective screwups regarding the library--the worst of which being SuSE  =)05:11
shawnr_Arafangi1n, im getting this error: 'gzip: stdout: Input/output error'05:11
rosspete:thanks05:11
shawnr_-p, --preserve-permissions05:12
kjmty05:12
tjcarterDBO: I just install nvidia-glx and edit /var/lib/dpkg/status to add the Provides:05:12
viatorwhats the plugin etc to play quicktime clips?05:12
shawnr_kjm, im getting this error: 'gzip: stdout: Input/output error'05:12
peteweezross: OK su to root, then type ifconfig to make sure you have the required utilities.05:12
disasmkjm: preserve perms05:12
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kjmWell, I can't see anything wrong with the command.  One thing, have you tried simply creating the .tar first, then using gzip.?05:13
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kjmother than that, I'm useless05:13
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tjcarterDBO: if this were Debian, it'd be a release-critical bug that nvidia-glx-dev depends on nvidia-glx which conflicts with it..  Of course if this were Debian the bug would likely be ignored because I filed it, but that's politics I extracted myself from almost half a decade ago now.05:14
peteweezross: Oh wait! I got that wrong...you want iwconfig not ifconfig...OK su to root and type iwconfig.05:14
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disasmshawnr_: are you sure you aren't running out of space on the destination drive? that would cause it to corrupt05:15
tjcarterbruenig: he means run the command with sudo?05:15
jazzrockerbruenig, that would be: sudo -s05:15
shawnr_disasm, 300 gigs05:15
disasmshawnr_: ah k, nm then05:15
peteweezno su as in type su then type the root password05:15
shawnr_disasm, im getting this error: 'gzip: stdout: Input/output error'05:15
bruenigindeed, I know the sudo su and sudo -s, however that does not really su to root05:16
Arafangi1nshawnr_: Not good.05:16
jazzrockerbruenig, understood05:16
disasmshawnr_: in the middle of the script?05:16
cyanicsdisasm, who is the ext. drive mounted?05:16
Madpilotpeteweez, there is no root pw in a default Ubuntu install - no need for one, either...05:16
peteweezoh ok05:16
peteweezI'm Debian05:16
shawnr_Arafangi1n, could it be the drive05:16
peteweezsorry05:16
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Madpilotpeteweez, "sudo ifconfig" is probably what you want to suggest instead...05:16
cyanicsMadpilot, the default user is able to sudo to root05:16
Arafangi1nshawnr_: Possible. Try fsck.05:16
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peteweezYou know no root password is just a little risky, although tantalizingly convenient05:16
shawnr_disasm, tar outputs that error... not my script05:16
Arafangi1nshawnr_: WHile the drive is umounted.05:16
Madpilotcyanics, yes, but it's pointless05:16
disasmshawnr_: on extract?05:16
shawnr_Aragang, its fat3205:17
tjcarterpeteweez: root is locked.  There is no root passwd.05:17
Madpilotpeteweez, the root pw is scrambled, not missing.05:17
peteweezMadpilot: Yeah sorry...I'm a Debian user...similar to Ubuntu, but not the same.05:17
Arafangi1nshawnr_: fsck.vfat or whatever.05:17
tjcarteryou can sudo, but not login.05:17
peteweezah05:17
peteweezthanx05:17
peteweezthat makes sense now05:17
shawnr_disasm, no while, or at end of archiving05:17
ShoeUnitedDo I have to restart in order to run wine?05:17
cyanicsMadpilot, then just sudo passwd root05:17
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bruenigSHoeUnited, no05:17
disasmshawnr_: if you do that command, fsck.vfat -F 3205:17
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Arafangi1nshawnr_: How big is the archive, btw?05:17
bruenigShoeUnited, if you just installed wine make sure you run winecfg05:18
corndog_I'm having full system freezes when burning cd's using k3d and gnome baker... where can I find an error log or where should I start diagnosing the problem?05:18
ShoeUnitedOk then.  I'm following the wow faq on the site, but when I double click on install.exe lol It don't do nothing.05:18
disasmshawnr_: how big is your home dir? and do you have wine installed?05:18
rosshey pete it says I have no wireless extensions.....the light on the laptop for the wireless is on.05:18
Madpilotpeteweez, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for how Ubuntu handles root/sudo/etc05:18
tjcartercyanics: there usually is no need to assign a root passwd for a workstation.05:18
peteweezMadpilot: thanks05:18
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shawnr_Arafangi1n, 400megs and another 2gig one05:18
cyanicstjcarter, for security, i always apply a very strict one.05:18
bruenigShoeUnited, try opening the command line and doing "wine /path/to/install.exe"05:18
tjcartercyanics: locked is not secure?05:18
peteweezross: Type sudo ifconfig eth0 up05:18
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Arafangi1nshawnr_: If I recall correctly, you have a 4GB limitation, right?05:18
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bruenigreplacing path to of course with the real one05:18
shawnr_disasm, wine is on the exception list05:19
rossif or iw?05:19
cyanicstjcarter, sudo isn't a locked ident05:19
ShoeUnitedOh ok ty again bruenig ^_^05:19
peteweezross: if eth0 is your interface...it could be eth1, etc.05:19
disasmshawnr_: ah k, cause that would throw you in an infinite loop if it's being missed...05:19
peteweezross:if05:19
birdfishCould someone please help me to get my LAN clients to be able to use the internet through my ubuntu server?05:19
peteweezross: not iw05:19
birdfishI have installed dhcp3-server and firestarter05:19
shawnr_Arafangi1n, ahhhh you mean fat32 has a file size limit?05:19
birdfishBut I can't get on the internet from my LAN client still05:19
disasmbirdfish: 2 NICS?05:19
Arafangi1nshawnr_: Yes.05:19
Arafangi1nshawnr_: But I think it's 4 GB.05:19
shawnr_Arafangi1n, thats bs lol05:19
birdfishdisasm: Definitely :D05:19
Madpilotcyanics, only the user created during install has sudo privs; if they put in a weak password that's their problem. They'd probably have used a weak root pw too.05:19
rossok nothing happened05:19
Arafangi1nshawnr_: How so?05:20
peteweezross: no nothing would05:20
rossok05:20
shawnr_Arafanf, i mean that sucks lol05:20
peteweezross: check it by running sudo ifconfig05:20
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cyanicsMadpilot, i agree.. which is the reason why i always implicetly set a root password.05:20
birdfish<disasm> eth0 connects to the internet and eth1 I want to use with the LAN05:20
bruenigalso if you add new users in to sudoers05:20
cyanicsMadpilot, plus, i hate sudo05:20
Arafangi1nshawnr_: Does, it's why my removeable drives are all ext3.05:20
corndog_shawnr_, i believe hes right... fat32 has a 4gb limit and fat16 has a 2gb limit05:20
disasmbirdfish: gentux.org/proxy05:20
peteweezCould someone tell me how to do a one-on-one IRC chat...I'm a noob to irc but not linux.05:20
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rosspete: it just says eth0 and lo again :-?05:20
Madpilotpeteweez, /msg $nick hi05:20
fuocoi used partitionmagic to resize windows xp ntfs partition and make space for ubuntu, but it failed miserably leaving me with unbootable system that reboots itself in a loop - anyone knows how to deal with that ?05:20
disasmbirdfish: throw that in your init.d, update-rc.d it, and customize it to fit your network05:21
shawnr_Arafangi1n, that might be it, because when i got the error i added my music folder, which puts it over 4 gigs i think05:21
Arafangi1nshawnr_: No, it's per file.05:21
peteweezMadpilot: thanks...you sure know a lot.05:21
Arafangi1nshawnr_: I suspect your error is elsewhere.05:21
Madpilotpeteweez, I waste entirely too much time here ;)05:21
bruenigfuoco, ditch windows seems like a suitable solution05:21
shawnr_Arafangi1n, no i mean that put the archive file over 4 gigs05:21
disasmbirdfish: warning, it's not very secure, i have an additional firewall script ran, that just sets up the NAT05:21
peteweezMadpilot: lol05:21
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Arafangi1nshawnr_: In that case, that'd do it.05:21
fuocobruenig: i did for myself, but that's my family's computer05:22
shawnr_Arafangi1n, how could i convert it to ext without loosing my data?05:22
peteweezMadpilot: it didn't open a new chat window05:22
birdfish<disasm> You wouldn't have any idea how to set it up through firestarter would you?05:22
Arafangi1nshawnr_: If you have the option to reformat the drive as ext3, take it. The *only* drawback of an ext3 drive is that windows can't use it easily.05:22
bruenigfuoco, you don't have an install disk?05:22
Arafangi1nshawnr_: Archive the data onto CD's or DVD's.05:22
Madpilotpeteweez, it will when whoever you PM'd replies, if you're in XChat05:22
corndog_I'm having full system freezes when burning cd's using k3d and gnome baker... where can I find an error log or where should I start diagnosing the problem?05:22
peteweezMadpilot I typed "/msg ross hi"05:22
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birdfish<disasm> I'm brand new to ubuntu (somewhat linux in general) and am not sure how to do too much05:22
disasmshawnr_: copy data to another drive, and fdisk/mkfs it05:22
peteweezMadpilot: I'm in gaim05:22
shawnr_disam, don't have that luxury05:22
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birdfish<disasm> I'm just trying to get my machines online before school starts on friday so that I can start learning05:23
shawnr_disasm, and no more blank cd's left lol05:23
peteweezross: did ifconfig say that you had any interfaces up?05:23
trprArafangi1n: ya. thats no exageration.. your ext3 partition can be read, but once you write to it the ext3 journal is broken, and needs to be recreated when mounted again in linux05:23
Madpilotpeteweez, ah, not sure how gaim does IRC PMs - gaim sucks for IRC generally, though. Install Xchat, it's actually designed for IRC05:23
peteweezMadpilot: yeah probably05:23
cafuego_birdfish: Lesson 1: Just click stuff and see what happens. It will warn you if you're about to break stuff.05:23
AustLaw`I want to install grub onto hda1, I am booted to a second hdd, how can I do this?--im totally new to linux05:23
bruenigpeteweez, you can just right click on the name and click IM05:23
peteweezgaim's for aim and jabber, etc.05:23
cafuego_eh05:23
bruenigI use gaim looks pretty good05:23
cafuego_that;s for disasm :-)05:23
disasmbirdfish: save that script to /etc/init.d/proxy if you run /etc/init.d/proxy start, routing should work05:23
peteweezbruenig: thanks05:23
fuocobruenig: install disk of ?05:23
IcemanV9OR sudo aptitude install xchat-gnome :)05:23
bruenigfuoco windows05:24
birdfish<disasm> And then I can use firestarter to set up the firewall?05:24
shawnr_Arafangi1n, disasm, do you know what this means? 'tar: /home/shawn/.Blam.shawn: socket ignored'05:24
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NickRiversxchat-gnome? ugh lol05:24
Arafangi1ntrpr: Even that's not easily done.05:24
mdkanedaI'm having a little problem... Anyone who could help me i'd much appreciate it. I'm trying to get my Samba shares working, I've finally said goodbye to Windows, but my girlfriend's PC is still running windows, and she loves those RealArcade games, and not ready to give up windows... Soooo... My Ideal setup would be her sharing my backgrounds/mp3s/etc off my backup partitions, would prefer no pword05:24
Arafangi1nshawnr_: tar is skippign the socket.05:24
ShoeUnited!firestarter05:24
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)05:24
Arafangi1nshawnr_: As there's no point in backing them up.05:24
bruenigxchat is cool but since I have gaim going already for AIM, might as well use it for IRC05:24
Arafangi1nshawnr_: Think of a socket as a network port.05:24
brendonjtnickrivers:i agree didn't like it now just use xchat05:24
dionhey anyone in here have very much experience setting up ndiswrapper?  I'm having a bit of difficulty getting started05:24
disasmbirdfish: not sure, never used firestarter, i write all my firewalls from scratch with iptables05:24
IcemanV9NickRivers: it's not bad once you get used to.05:24
GigaClonwhat can i use to listen to shoutcast streams?05:24
fuocobruenig: i guess i do - how would that help ? i need to reinstall - i hope not to lose information on the partition05:25
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NickRiversIcemanV9: I've been using xchat too long... xchat-gnome bugs me hehehe05:25
disasmdion: yeah, it's a pain in the butt... used it on my ex gf's laptop05:25
bruenigfuoco, do you have any usb drives that you could put the information on?05:25
birdfishShoeUnited: yeah, I realize it's just the frontend and can set up connection sharing.  But you have to do more work than just click add connection sharing and I don't see instructions for that05:25
diondisasm: lol I've grather that at least that much so far!05:25
fuocobruenig: even if i do. i don't know how to access it05:25
mdkanedaKVIrc is what i use, it absolutely rocks =D05:25
bruenigif you messed up windows you should probably go to ##windows first to see if you can recover it. I being a bit extreme would just reinstall.05:26
shawnr_disasm, what was that command to check my fat32... just incase?05:26
disasmdion: what's your problem with it?05:26
dmsantambitchx all the way! :P05:26
diondisasm: are there any other options besides that?05:26
NickRiversfuoco: if your windows partition was the only partition on the hdd before you tried to resize it, try resizing it back to take up the full hdd with a standard mbr05:26
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disasmshawnr_: i don't think their is an fsck for fat32...05:26
NickRiversfuoco: try using BootIT NG05:26
peteweezI have an issue with K9Copy and libdvdread.  Anyone wanna help?05:26
GigaClonwhat can i use to listen to shoutcast streams?05:26
disasmshawnr_: yeah there is05:26
NickRiverspeteweez: what's the issue?05:26
brendonjtdmsantam:  used bitchx  but couldn't be bothered  manually do the login all the time05:27
disasmfsck.vfat05:27
rosssorry pete i had to step out for a sec.....no ifconfig said the same.....eth0 and lo05:27
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peteweezross: do you see a new one-on-one window...I wanna talk to you on a private channel.05:27
IcemanV9do you think it's a bug when rhythmbox frozen once the network disconnected for a second or two??05:28
shawnr_disasm, fsck.vfat -F 32   ?05:28
rossyeah05:28
disasmshawnr_: no, i wasn't thinking when i said that05:28
disasmshawnr_: -F 32 is needed for mkfs (formatting)05:28
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peteweezNickRivers: Whenever I copy a dvd with k9copy and tell it to preserve original menus, it has fatal libdvdread error.05:28
P3L|C4N0greetings05:28
shawnr_disasm, and this safe for my data on there?05:28
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IcemanV9GigaClon: streamtuner05:28
disasmprobly fsck.vfat -wa /dev/sda1 or whatever device is05:28
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peteweezNickRivers: Error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2193605:28
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rossi acedentaly closed it05:29
shawnr_disasm, god forbid, thats my only backup of all my information05:29
disasmshawnr_: i can't guarantee anything, but file system check shouldn't hurt anything05:29
disasmshawnr_: maybe leave off the wa05:29
peteweezross: it should've reopened cuz I sent another message05:29
shawnr_whats wa?05:29
disasmshawnr_: -a repairs automatically -w writes to disk immediately05:29
NickRiverspeteweez: this happens with every dvd?05:30
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ertcould someone please tell me the moduals under /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/*/*.ko05:30
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erthow do they get there05:30
GigaClonI got that but when i go to open a stream from the web it opens up the open file dialog05:30
disasmert: when the kernel is installed05:30
peteweezNickRivers: every dvd so long as I instruct it to copy the original menus...if I don't ask for orig. menus then it works fine05:30
erti mean do the ubuntu people put them there or are they part of the kernel05:31
Dimensionsaahhh ali123 is gone or what ?05:31
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disasmert: if your compiling from scratch, when you run make modules_install05:31
NickRiverspeteweez: and you can play the dvds just fine?05:31
disasms/your/you're05:31
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disasmert: kernel modules05:31
peteweezNickRivers: yeah no probs05:31
IcemanV9GigaClon: yea, open with what? rhythmbox? just click 'ok', then you'll hear the music05:31
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shawnr_disasm, Read 512 bytes at 0:Input/output error05:31
peteweezross: did you find the private chat window?05:32
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rossyeah05:32
disasmi/o errors scare me... had to many hd's go kerchunk kerchunk kerchunk kerchunk05:32
rossI was typing in it05:32
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rossyou said ross you there05:32
Dimensionscan some one tell me ... what does the message :>>> Device ttyACM0 is locked by pid 2338505:32
mdkanedaAnyways, can anyone help me with my Samba Shares? my smb.conf must be screwy, my windows machine cant connect, even when i create a password. ultimately i'd like to connect w/ no password since i'm running a local wired network... Can anyone help me? or give me a working sample smb.conf?05:32
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peteweezross: yep OK switch to that window05:33
disasmDimensions: it means an application with pid 23385 is using device ttyACM0 (serial?)05:33
IcemanV9ert: there are 427 modules in there05:33
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ertdisasm: ok cause there are some wifi moduals that dont work on 6.06 out of the box05:33
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disasmmdkaneda: security=share sounds like what you want05:33
corndog_mdkaneda, did you specify a force user, force group in your smb.conf?05:33
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shawnr_disasm, Read 512 bytes at 0:Input/output error05:33
peteweezNickRivers: It's a prob with reading dvd menus, cuz mplayer doesn't need to read menus, just content.05:33
fuocoanyone knows which bittorrent client is good to use ? the default one is really poor...05:33
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ertdisasm: you can get them working but only if you recompile them05:34
mdkanedayes, i followed directions on ubuntuguide.org and it didnt work, been frustrating, was messing w/ it all last night05:34
disasmert: yeah, the ones that need to fwcutter tool thingy, they need firmware pieces from windows drivers cut out05:34
peteweezross: Is eth0 your wireless interface?05:34
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rockzmanyo can anyone who has a CCO Login on cisco send me an image?05:34
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Dimensionsummms ....  disasm i am already connected via ADSL modem in ethernet port could that be reason for getting above message while i am trying to connect via gprs modem of my cell fone using usb serial cable ?05:34
rosswhy isnt the chat working?........anyway its my ethernet wire to the router05:34
rossidk what lo is05:34
ertdisasm: oh05:34
disasmDimensions: maybe05:35
ertdisasm: brb05:35
corndog_mdkaneda, heres a working extract from my smb.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21943 let me know if it helps05:35
viator!quicktime05:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:35
peteweezross: lo is loopback...ignore that05:35
peteweezross: btw I had the exact same prob you had a long time ago...it's even more of a b**** on Debian.05:36
rossok05:36
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rossyou think I will be able to get it to work?05:36
peteweezross: but ifconfig lists eth0 as an interface05:36
AustLawin the past someone pointed me to a link that gave a script to mount a windows drive05:36
peteweezross: absolutely yes05:36
AustLawanyone know which script I am talking about?05:36
rockzmanyo can anyone who has a CCO Login on cisco send me an image?05:36
rossok cool05:36
peteweezross: do you have an aim account?05:36
disasmooh yay! gnome works again ;-) had to strip almost all of it out and reinstall it after accidentally kicking the power plug during dist-upgrade ;-)05:36
rossyeah05:36
disasmback to gui ;-)05:36
BlueEagle!ntfs05:36
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:36
dbakerhi guys... i have a Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02) that is recognized by Alsa but cant seem to get any flippin sound out of the speakers..can someone help out with this issue??05:36
BlueEagle!fuse05:37
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse05:37
AustLawthanks05:37
birdfish<disasm> One more question.  How do I get it installed so that I can start/stop/restart it?  I have it configured and placed in /etc/init.d, but when I excute update-rc.d, nothing happens05:37
BlueEagleaustlaw: Not sure if that05:37
peteweezross: logon to aim and add peteweez to your buddy list05:37
BlueEagleis what you want05:37
disasmah... back to being able to use firefox again ;-)05:37
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AustLawyes, that is it05:37
peteweezross: then IM me05:37
BlueEagleaustlaw: very good. :)05:37
YeTr2I freaken hate this PNY graphics card05:38
disasmbirdfish: /etc/init.d/proxy start05:38
YeTr2keep getting status disabled on /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status05:38
birdfish<disasm> I think it needs to be installed though.  It says command not found05:38
disasmbirdfish: to get it to start on boot: update-rc.d proxy defaults05:39
birdfishAh05:39
viatordoes anything in linux play the h264 files05:39
disasmbirdfish: did you save it in /etc/init.d/05:39
BlueEagleviator: What are h264 files?05:39
disasmbirdfish: mv proxy /etc/init.d/05:39
archaiosI glove you05:39
phargleh265 but not h26405:39
archaiosI glove you very much05:39
birdfishI executed "sudo cp proxy /etc/init.d05:40
fuocoviator: mplayer, ffmpeg, vlc05:40
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disasmbirdfish: sudo chmod 7555 /etc/init.d/proxy05:41
birdfishShould I have uncommented !binsh05:41
birdfish?05:41
NickRiversBlueEagle: h264 is the video codec used by quicktime 7 i think05:41
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disasmbirdfish: sudo /etc/init.d/proxy start05:41
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disasmbirdfish: no05:41
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BlueEaglenickrivers: Appears to be consistent with what google tells me.05:41
BlueEagle:)05:41
viatorVideo codec 'Advanced Video Coding (H264)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins05:41
corndog_Can anyone just point me in the right direction... I need to debug a system crash when I try to burn a CD.05:41
Shadowpillarwho here has XGL?05:42
birdfishthere, I think it started05:42
birdfishNow time to test05:42
disasmbirdfish: #!/bin/sh tells the shell it's a script supposed to be run by /bin/sh05:42
BlueEagleshadowpillar: #ubuntu-xgl is for xgl discussions.05:42
BlueEagleshadowpillar: oh, and !anyone05:42
NickRiverswhat is xgl?05:42
BlueEagle!xgl05:42
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:42
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disasmbirdfish: you may also need to uncomment line 27 of sysctl.conf#net/ipv4/ip_forward=105:43
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birdfishActually, I'm online on the LAN now :D05:43
disasmbirdfish: cool!05:43
birdfishdisasm: you are awesome, thanks so much! :D05:43
fausto_hi there05:43
disasmbirdfish: no problem ;-)05:43
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fausto_I am using rosegarden to arrange a piece of music but I wish to have two instances of the program running at the same time (not for something like crazy like playing two midi's concurrently but just so I can copy some things over)05:44
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viatorheh mplayer plays the video05:44
fausto_When I open it up twice it just brings me to the same instance05:44
viatorbut guess what05:45
fausto_any i deas?05:45
viatorno SOUND05:45
viatorlol05:45
fred__hello - what is the name of the application used to add applications (friendlier than synaptic) ?05:45
bluefox83ok, i have this huge error message in the corner of my screen, and it says crap about a file not working..and the error window has two buttons, neither of which work, they are "hide" and "details" how do i get rid of the damn thing?05:45
fred__I' d like to use it under xubuntu but it' s not in the menus/installed by default05:45
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bluefox83nevermind...05:45
corndog_fred__, are you thinking of easy ubuntu or automatix?05:45
disasmfausto_: yeah, for one does it lock the sound card? if not, open another X instance, and run it in it, startx -- :1 from terminal (not graphical terminal, ctrl-alt-f1 terminal)05:46
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brendonjtfred_: in a gui  or command05:46
fausto_will i be able to switch between them in the task bar?05:46
fred__corndog_, nope, just the Add/Remove software tool in Ubuntu05:46
Colossali need some help, my desktop wont show, and anytime i bring up anything related to the desktop or home folder (file browser etc) it automatically closes05:47
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disasmi know chances are slim... but is there a way to upgrade all the deb packages on a cd? I have the cd copied, have successfully created my own preseed, but all the packages are out of date, and it would be nice to have up to date packages after install05:47
brendonjtfred_: i think  synaptic is the easiest  except for terminal05:47
disasmfausto_: no, not when open in a new X instance05:48
fausto_yeah i just did it ... not exactly what i was looking for but kind of cool05:48
fausto_lol05:48
disasmfausto_: the other thing you could possibly do is start a vncserver and tightvnc into it05:48
brendonjtcorndog_: what is automatix  i only heard about it?05:48
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corndog_brendonjt, its a gui for installing applications05:49
Colossalany ideas?05:49
BlueEagleubotu: tell disasm about automatix05:49
brendonjtcorndog_: similar to synaptic?05:49
corndog_brendonjt, it has a set list of applications that are commonly instaleld05:49
disasmcorndog_: isn't it more of a script, or is it a gui tool?05:49
Axe_I'm trying to make a launcher that goes to a shell script in one of my menus.. I checked run in terminal and put sh pathtoscript.sh in the box but when I run it the terminal just opens and closes really fast05:49
BlueEagledisasm: automatix has been known to break ubuntu systems in the past.05:49
Axe_if I take the command I'm trying to run and just put it into a terminal window it works05:49
brendonjtcorndog_: cheers for that05:49
viatoruse easyubuntu05:49
corndog_disasm, its basically a script... but it has a gui tool very basic05:49
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ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:49
fausto_disasm ... the reason I'm wanting to do this is because I have a midi i created with a keyboard and of course some things that were just emotion came out into the music as 1/32nd note rests ... when i try to delete them from the music in rosegarden i can't05:49
fausto_are you familiar with rosegarden?05:50
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disasmBlueEagle: i know ;-) I'm making my own cd that has nothing to do with automatix, it works great, just a lot of packages need upgraded, and to do that I have to create a apt-ftparchive, and manually download all the ones I need, hoping I have all the dependencies and such05:50
BlueEagledisasm: sorry. I totally miffed the nick there.05:50
fred__NOt looking for easy ubuntu etc...05:50
BlueEagle:)05:50
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CaptainMorganI have a win hdd that is corrupt, missing a file that prevents booting.. I googled and found something about booting into linux to copy files - love to do that, how do I access it in Linux if the hdd folder is password protected in win? I have the password, so it's a legit op05:50
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BlueEagleubotu: tell brendonjt about automatix05:51
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BlueEaglebrendonjt: ...and automatix has been known to break ubuntu in the past.05:51
fred__Just the "Add/Remove software"  that comes with Ubuntu (but not Xubuntu)...05:51
Colossali need some help, my desktop wont show, and anytime i bring up anything related to the desktop or home folder (file browser etc) it automatically closes05:51
wifiworksdisasm: hey its me again05:51
disasmfausto_: haven't used rosegarden at all...05:51
disasmhey wifiworks05:51
brendonjtblueEagle:  thanks for that  just read it,  sounds risky05:51
BlueEaglecaptainmorgan: How is it encrypted/protexted under windows?05:51
corndog_anyone know a good 64 bit cd burn other than gnomebaker and k3b (they are crashing my system :()05:51
wifiworksdisasm: just diferent nick05:52
disasmold nick?05:52
wifiworkser05:52
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wifiworksgrt05:52
brendonjtfred_:are u using xbuntu?05:52
wifiworksor somthin05:52
fausto_ok ... well thanks for the attmpet!05:52
CaptainMorganBlueEagle, you know the Windows login screen? that's it05:52
BlueEaglebrendonjt: I've never used it but I've seen people complain about it breaking their box. Some people recon !easyubuntu is better.05:52
CaptainMorganfor users05:52
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raystonhey, how do you figure out what the start command for a program I installed from synaptic is?05:52
BlueEaglecaptainmorgan: That's not a password protection of the file. That's just the log in. Unless ofcourse it's on an encrypted NTFS file system.05:52
fred__gnome-app-install  - GNOME Application Installer05:53
fred__tx. ;)05:53
brendonjtblueEagle:  ok  i'll store  that tip away,  i'll  be sticking with synaptic,  it does what i need05:53
BlueEaglecaptainmorgan: ...or there are other utils that encrypt files on-the-fly.05:53
disasmwifiworks: what's the issue?05:53
wifiworksdisasm: u said that i need windows firmware for some wifi moduals to work?05:53
BlueEagleubotu: tell wifiworks about u05:53
CaptainMorganBlueEagle, no other encrypting or utils - just the windows login screen password05:53
disasmdepends on the chipset of the card05:53
ALEX_PAULI'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 from an actual official cd on an old box of mine, and before it even gets live, it puts me in a shell with "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"05:54
wifiworkssorry05:54
wifiworksu is now set to you05:54
wifiworks:P05:54
Arafangi1nALEX_PAUL: What box is this?05:54
brendonjtalex_paul:  have you tried the alturnative cd05:54
BlueEaglecaptainmorgan: Well then the files aren't password protected per-say. It's just that you're unable to log in to windows. You can recover the files by mounting the NTFS partition and copy it to somwhere safe. (I recomend a fat32 partition as it is safely read/writable in both linux and windows.05:54
ALEX_PAULits a 1.5 GHz p405:54
ALEX_PAULworked with windows O.o05:55
ALEX_PAULbut not linux05:55
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disasmwifiworks: do you know your chipset?05:55
ALEX_PAULno05:55
Arafangi1nALEX_PAUL: Wow, if you say that's "an old box of mine", I wonder what your new box is!05:55
ALEX_PAULI actually found it in the garbage05:55
wifiworksdisasm: i have had to get a fw thing for a b wifi usb05:55
ALEX_PAULsomeone was throwing it away05:55
wifiworksdisasm: that was modual zd120105:55
CaptainMorganBlueEagle, I run that interface for communication between OS's, but I forget the name... know it?05:55
disasmwifiworks: broadcom?05:55
wifiworksand it worked05:55
ALEX_PAULbecause the bios was set to show video on pci, instead of agp05:55
ALEX_PAUL:-P05:55
viatorany one good with sound?05:55
NickRiversso what's XGL supposed to offer? just quicker desktop rendering?05:55
disasmviator: sometimes05:55
BlueEaglecaptainmorgan: ssh, vnc, laplink?05:56
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viatori can hear the sounds coming from gaim but if i play a cd i have no sound05:56
BlueEaglecaptainmorgan: wine? wmware? No I don't know it.05:56
BlueEagle:)05:56
brendonjtalex_paul:  wow  great find, it could be a bios setting  just  a thought05:56
CaptainMorganill find it, thanks a million ;)05:56
ALEX_PAULbrendonjt: ok, I'll check it out05:56
disasmwifiworks: this? http://linux-lc100020.sourceforge.net/05:56
wifiworksdisasm: i think the broadcom  had the same chipset but it wans't called a broadcom05:56
BlueEaglenickrivers: More eye candy.05:56
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brendonjtalex_paul:  but i had a similar problem  and i used the altrurnitive install cd  and it orked05:57
ALEX_PAULok05:57
brendonjtalex_paul:  ^^worked05:57
YeTr2hmm..05:57
NickRiversBlueEagle: more eye candy? like what?05:57
wifiworksdisasm: yeah i went to that url and got the firmware and it worked05:57
YeTr2I wonder how well I'm gona screw up my system05:57
disasmwifiworks: sweet!05:57
disasmwifiworks: i guess that makes sense if you changed your name to wifiworks it would be working ;-)05:57
wifiworksdisasm: but that was for that wifi dongal i don't have it anymore05:57
BlueEaglenickrivers: rubbery windows, true transparency, nicer app switcher, nicer desktop switcher.05:58
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BlueEaglenickrivers: some "effects" that are totally pointless too.05:58
wifiworksdisasm: now i have a zd1211 chipset dongal05:58
disasmwifiworks: ah, so what are you working with now?05:58
BlueEaglenickrivers: still #ubuntu-xgl is the correct forum for xgl questions.05:58
Shadowpillardongle.05:58
wifiworksthe zd1211 don't work in ubuntu the modual don't go05:58
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disasmwifiworks: http://zd1211.ath.cx/05:59
wifiworksthere is a guide to recompile a bunch of stuff in ubnutu to get it going05:59
wifiworksyeah05:59
wifiworksbut  that don't work with the existing ubuntu modual05:59
disasmwifiworks: yeah, reading page looks like it's a kernel compile ;-) ever done one before?05:59
YeTr2module06:00
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wifiworksdisasm: im trying to find this page on drapper and compiling zd121106:03
disasmwifiworks: says there is a zd1211 with dapper, but that doesn't work?06:03
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wifiworkscan't find it06:03
wifiworksgrr06:03
wifiworksdisasm: no it don't06:03
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wifiworksdisasm: and it looks like the firm ware is there to06:04
zoidbergguys does anyone know how to make ATI TV-WONDER card work on Dapper?06:04
wifiworkslike i should work out of the box06:04
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richiefrichwhens the new init going to be initiated?06:04
disasmwifiworks: yeah, but it doesn't work?06:04
disasmwifiworks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/zydas_zd121106:05
iramaeim on my ubuntu live-cd..i can't view the contents of the partitions of my sata hard disk.it says.."unable to mount the selected volume"06:05
richiefrichthe upstart one ?06:05
richiefrich!upstart06:05
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:05
disasmif it doesn't work, you can give the compile instructions a shot, it says you can do it with just the headers, which doesn't mean an all-out compile06:05
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richiefrich!botsnacks06:05
zoidbergcan anyone tell me how to make streaming video and audio in firefox work?06:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsnacks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:06
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ALEX_PAULbrendonjt: thanks, I loaded failsafe defaults and its working06:06
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richiefrich!botsnack06:06
ubotuYum!06:06
richiefrich:P06:06
zoidbergguys someone must know how to play streaming videos in firefox06:06
zoidbergi already have gxine06:06
wifiworksdisasm: that how to's no good06:06
wifiworksnot enought info06:06
brendonjtalex_paul:  glad to be off help06:06
Axe_zoidberg: mozilla-mplayer06:07
wifiworksneed to recomplie more stuff that therre06:07
Axe_works great06:07
fuciHi, what SSH stuff do I have to install so I can connect to my computer and use screen that runs irssi?06:07
zoidbergwhat else do i need to play  .wmv .avi quikticme and realplayer fiels that are streaming from a webpage06:07
NutubuntuGood evening all -- how do I find where the java JRE lives? I need to set the JAVA_HOME environment variable ...06:07
Axe_sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer I'm pretty sure06:07
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Axe_.wmv.. dunno06:07
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Axe_the rest.. that should cover it06:07
wifiworksdisasm: but dose it look to you like ubuntus out of the box modual is broken?06:07
zoidbergAxe_: can i use a gxine plugin instead...i'm not a huge fan of the mplayer plugin06:07
tritiumfuci: sudo apt-get install openssh-server06:07
Axe_its on ubuntuguide06:07
wifiworksthats all i want to know06:07
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Axe_zoidberg: dunno.  I've always used mplayer and I love it06:07
fucitritium: ok, thanks!06:08
tritiumfuci: that will install the server on the machine you want to login to06:08
wifiworksdisasm: if the modual in the standered ubuntu is broken whos fault is it06:08
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wifiworkslike do they just get it from some one else?06:09
brendonjtnutubuntu: sudo update-alternatives --config java06:09
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Nutubuntubrendonjt - thank you!06:09
brendonjtnutubuntu: it shows the java  paths as well as lets you choose the default java to use06:09
fucitritium: yeh, I have done this before on my machine but had to reinstall ubuntu and couldn't remember what I needed to install to get it work :-P06:09
wifiworksdisasm: gota go06:10
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wifiworksdisasm: hope to talk again, thank for your thoughts06:10
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Axe_zoidberg: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs06:10
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rouzic_ausenteGood Bye!06:11
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corndog_Anyone have an idea why my computer crashes when I burn a cd? 64bit ubuntu... both gnomebaker and k3b06:11
Nutubuntubrendonjt - thank you! That was exactly what I needed ...06:12
brendonjtzoidberg:  you could try here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper06:12
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brendonjtnutubuntu: bookmark this page  it is great http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper06:12
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archaiosWow. PHP on my Ubuntu Apache server is 4 times faster than ColdFusion on the same box!06:13
Nutubuntubrendonjt - thanks again, will do06:13
Madpilotbrendonjt, it's gotten better, but ubuntuguide is still not as good as the official docs - please recommend help.ubuntu.com/community/ or just help.ubuntu.com over ubuntuguide... thanks.06:13
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brendonjtmadpilot:  yip  sorry  about that06:14
pajamahey06:14
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bll3rhello everyone06:15
NutubuntuMadpilot - I noted that also, thanks06:15
justin_Is anyone aware of academics?06:15
userbakakengcecille06:15
justin_Since everyone seems to be dead in ubuntu-offtopics..06:16
archaiosWhat is academics, justin_?06:16
archaiosPray tell.06:16
bll3rhey maybe someone can help me06:16
bll3rabout installing a printer06:16
pajamaI made the Active Directory authentication work in Ubuntu... but I wonder gdm can ask you for a new password when you Active Directory account requires a password change, is that possible?06:17
archaiosbll3r, Nobody can help you now.06:17
justin_Well simple question, do you need to go to college before you go to University? - Or can you go to University and skip college?06:17
bll3rok . . .06:17
archaiosjustin_, In the US, college proffers undergraduate degrees06:17
bll3rill figure it out :-)06:17
archaioswhich are a requirement to enter universities (which offer post-graduate degrees)06:17
shawnr_help with gparted.. i have an external usb hd fat32, i want to format it to ext3. it asks me to set a new labeltype... what am i supposed to set this to?06:17
ruxpinpajama: do you use ldap or winbind?06:17
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iramaeacademics?-for me, freedom to learn everything.06:17
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archaiosin the UK and Australia, universities and colleges are the same thing -- they both provide undergraduate and postgraduate study06:17
justin_archaios: So you can skip college and go straight for university undergraduate? :)06:17
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archaiosjustin_, if the university is a true US-style university, it won't offer undergraduate degrees06:18
archaiosbut the difference is getting smaller06:18
Madpilotjustin_, now that you've got a conversation started, please move it to -offtopic - thanks...06:18
justin_Canada, I wonder - if it is U.S style, or UK style06:18
justin_Madpilot:  :)) yeah...06:18
Madpilotbll3r, what make/model of printer06:18
bll3rLexmark z2306:19
pajamaruxpin: winbind06:19
archaiosjustin_, join offtopic06:19
shawnr_disasm, are you there? i've backed up my usb drive... can you help me format it to ext3 ?06:19
justin_Ok06:19
Madpilotubotu, tell bll3r about printer06:19
bll3rhey thanks Madpilot06:19
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ladydoorarchaios: universities *do* offer undergrad degrees06:20
ruxpinpajama: ouch. why?06:20
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pajamaruxpin: well, it worked at the first time....06:20
pajamaruxpin: should I use pam_ldap instead???/06:21
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ruxpinpajama: well in any case I think you have to configure smb.conf to get smbpasswd (sp?) working06:21
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ruxpinpajama: ldap is a bit more tricky06:21
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pajamaruxpin: oh I see.... but gdm and kde support such a thing?06:22
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ruxpinhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fit_Linux_into_Active_Directory06:22
Remyhi folks, anyone know much about getting printers working in ubuntu?  I have a usb hp all-in-one (Scanner printer), allthough as long as I can get the scanning working I'm cheering06:22
ruxpinpajama: kdm and gdm work through pam06:22
AWOSDevI need help getting a modem to work06:22
AWOSDevOn my laptop06:22
ruxpinpajama: see /etc/pam.d/gdm and -kdm06:22
ladydoor!xsane > Remy06:22
AWOSDevI've installed the drivers, but /dev/modem doesn't exist, nor does /dev/ttySHSF006:23
brendonjtawosdev:  have you installed the restricted drivers?06:23
ruxpinRemy: those hp's are tricky06:23
ruxpinRemy: good lucj06:23
brendonjtawosdev:  what kind of modem?06:23
shawnr_Can someone please help me format my usb drive to ext3 ?06:23
AWOSDevConexant06:23
ruxpinshawnr_: mke2fs -j /dev/partition06:23
AWOSDevHSF06:23
ruxpinshawnr_: that swipes all without asking06:23
Remyas I said, I don't particularly care about the other functionality, as long as I can print...06:24
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pajamaruxpin: thanks I'll read them06:24
brendonjtawosdev:  i was asking about that  one othertime and i was told to make sure the restricted drivers modul is installed06:24
AWOSDevRestricted drivers module?  I didn't see that in the Wiki or the HOWTO06:24
AWOSDev.06:24
shawnr_ruxpin, Warning: could not read block 0: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read06:25
Remy!printing06:25
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:25
brendonjtawosdev:  hmm ok06:25
shawnr_ruxpin, it still working.... did i just screw it up?06:25
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rapidxHello everyone. I an trying to install ubuntu but when I insert the CD and selecting "Start or Install Ubuntu" it says 8254: timer not connected to IO-APIC. I am on an AMD64.06:26
AWOSDevbrendonjt: Where did you get the restricted drivers module?06:26
tritiumAWOSDev: what are you trying to do?06:26
tritium!restricted > AWOSDev06:26
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kerwonzsorry what packages i need to have gcc builder, etc...06:26
tritiumbuild-essential06:26
AWOSDevtritium: I'm trying to get my Conexant HSF WinModem to work on my laptop.06:26
shawnr_ruxpin, it seems stuck here: Writing inode tables:  108/152006:26
tritiumAWOSDev: oh06:27
shadeofgreydoes anybody here have a minute to please exoplain to me wexactly what digg is and how it stands to increase traffic on my wordpress blog?06:27
AWOSDevtritum, brendonjt: I have cable Internet service but since Hurricane Ernesto is coming the only way I will be able to get online is through the modem06:27
AWOSDev(I live in Florida)06:27
shadeofgreyi live inm florida too!06:27
shadeofgreyBoca Raton to be precise06:27
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AWOSDevshadeofgrey: I live in Greenacres, a burb of West Palm.06:28
brendonjtawosdev:  right  having a look now  can't remember where i seen that06:28
AWOSDevbrendonjt: Thanks.06:28
shadeofgreyAWOSDev; are you a big ubuntu user and blogger by any chance06:28
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shadeofgreyim desperate to find work as a professiional bklogger06:28
Madpilotshadeofgrey, #ubuntu-offtopic for blog chat, please06:28
AWOSDevshadeofgrey: I am a big Ubuntu user, but I only have one blog and it is not about Linux (though I'm thinking about one)06:29
brendonjtawosdev:  you could try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto06:29
xeladosCould I get a little help with mounting a FAT32 drive with rw permissions to all?06:29
AWOSDevbrendonjt: That's where I am06:29
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Sarra_xelados: I had thta problem too06:29
shawnr_Whats better for a usb backup drive... ext2 or ext3 ?06:29
Sarra_It never got answered, and I still odn't have owner privs for that partition. =\06:29
brendonjtawosdev:  and still nothing?06:30
xeladosI had fixed it at one point, but the power went out when I was asleep06:30
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AWOSDevSarra_, xelados: I believe, not sure, but believe, that you need to chmod /dev/whatever to 666 and then mount it with rw permissions as you would.06:30
AWOSDevbrendonjt: Nope.06:30
kromelDBO, wow!06:30
Sarra_AWOSDev: It's 777, not 666, and that doesn't work with partitions06:30
Fractureanyone here know much about linux printing ?06:31
xeladosMine's a separate hard drive.06:31
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AWOSDevSarra: 777 is execute, you would want 666 for read/write06:31
xelados766 would probably be best.06:31
brendonjtawosdev:  got this for the restricted drivers  for my ati video card, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)06:31
Remyanyone know much about hpoj ?06:31
Remyor hplip ?06:31
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brendonjtawosdev:  it may have the modem drivers in it06:31
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AWOSDevbrendonjt: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 is already the newest version.06:32
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brendonjtawosdev:  i got that to  hmmm06:32
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Remyyay, got it working :D06:34
raystonwhats a good music player/organizer for ubuntu/gnome?06:34
AWOSDevWould Ubuntu be compatible with a *really* old (literally 1996) PCMCIA Modem?06:34
AWOSDevrayston: I like amaroK.06:34
Sarra_rayston: Kaffeine06:35
motinIs there an efficient way to reinstall the sound drivers? Sound is just not working and I would like to reinstall the sound for ubuntu to find it plugnplaywise again, or is this just Windows that can do that?06:35
NickRiversrayston: amarok06:35
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brendonjtawosdev:  not sure could be  you would have to try and see06:36
Ademanis there any way to choose the default packages that are installed with ubuntu?06:36
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AWOSDevbrendonjt: Okay.  Is it difficult to install PCMCIA modems?  I didn't see any way to install them on the DialupModemHowto.06:36
pharglepcmcia anything06:37
shawnr_Whats better for a usb backup drive... ext2 or ext3 ?06:37
bll3rext206:37
shawnr_any reason why?06:37
shawnr_just curious06:37
LajujKejhello06:37
brendonjtawosdev:  it should  be reconised,  it should be reconised,  but don't take it at gospel,  have a try06:37
motinThere is a message that says "the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it"06:38
NickRiverswhy would ext2 be better?06:38
AWOSDevOkay06:38
shawnr_yea06:38
NickRiversI'm using reiser on my backup drive06:38
motinBut how do I know which process is the one?06:38
disasmshawnr_: i'd go with ext3, it's not that much more space taken up, and it's worth it for the journaled filesystem06:38
LajujKejI have a question about ndiswrapper and broadcom drivers.  I can get install the drivers, and my wlan0 can see networks, but I can't connect.  Does anyone have a hint as to what is the problem?06:38
xeladosSarra_: I figured it out. Change the permissions/owner of the directory you want to mount to. then mount with your option as "umask=0000"06:38
shawnr_safer for my crucial data06:38
shawnr_'?06:38
cafuego_LajujKej: You didn't disable bcm43xx06:38
Sarra_o.O I tried that and it wasn't working for me06:39
xeladosReally?06:39
xeladosI just did it and it worked.06:39
wweaselshawnr_: Choice of FS is irrelevant for safety. How large is this backup drive?06:39
LajujKejcafuego I thought I blacklisted it - maybe I didn't do it right06:39
shawnr_20006:39
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wweaselshawnr_: Go with ext3.06:39
wweaselshawnr_: Will you be using it with Windows computers?06:39
shawnr_no06:39
xeladosSarra_: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/backup -t vfat -o umask=000006:39
disasmshawnr_: Ext3 is a journaling filesystem developed by Stephen Tweedie. It is compatible to ext2 filesystems; actually you can look at it as an ext2 filesystem with a journal file. The journaling capability means no more waiting for fsck's or worrying about metadata corruption. What is most noticeable is that you can switch back and forth between ext2 and ext3 on a partition without any problem: it is just a matter of giving the mount command the right filesyst06:39
xeladosis the exact command I used.06:39
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aleks_#chile06:40
LajujKejwhat command do i use to disable bcm43xx06:40
shawnr_k ext3 it is... thanks guys06:40
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Krinnshai06:40
wweaselshawnr_: In short disasm, ext3 is better than ext2 and there is no reason to use ext2.06:40
aleks_wats ?06:40
jpjacobsbutr, if you have a decent filesystem mess up, or part of the partition deleted, ext2 is easier to recover (that's what i've heard)06:40
shawnr_LajujKej, add it to the driver blacklist06:40
aleks_exit06:40
Krinnswhen i run rdesktop on kubuntu seesion gets hang06:40
archaiosreiser3 and 4 are better than ext306:41
aleks_#chile06:41
NickRiversI guess I'm a maverick using reiserfs for my backup hdd hehehe06:41
motinThere is a message that says "the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it"06:41
tritiumNickRivers: yikes!06:41
motinBut how do I know which process is the one?06:41
shawnr_archaios, why is that ?06:41
cafuego_!bcm43xx > LajujKej06:41
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ladydoorSarra_: maybe try adding to your /etc/fstab for that line (if there's already a line for it), under the options, the word "user" and adding yourself to the group "users" in /etc/group06:41
disasmLajujKej: rmmod will remove it temporarily, you can blacklist it if you need it permanently removed06:41
Nutubuntudisasm - you seem to know about ext3 - does it make any difference (vs ext2) if the drive starts to go bad (throw bad sectors)?06:41
archaiosshawnr_, significantly more efficient06:41
NickRiverstritium: why "yikes" ?06:41
MadpilotNickRivers, picking an FS known for crashing for backups seems... odd, at least ;)06:41
archaiosNutubuntu, not really06:41
Sarra_Grr06:41
archaiosNutubuntu, ext3 doesn't protect against physical failure06:41
Sarra_It's being dumb06:41
LajujKejso would I 'rmmod bcm43xx'06:41
Sarra_brb I need to modify fstab again06:41
tritiumNickRivers: just a scary thought of trusting reiserfs to backup your data06:41
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shawnr_Madpilot, which fs is know for crashing?06:42
NickRiverstritium: didn't know it was an issue06:42
cafuego_LajujKej: blacklist it (or get rid of ndiswrapper and use bcm43xx, which usually works fine).06:42
disasmNutubuntu: a few bad sectors i would think the journal would help, but if there is a significant amount no fs is going to help, that's what backups are for06:42
Madpilotshawnr_, reiser06:42
archaiosdisasm, it doesn't.06:42
Nutubuntuarchaios - yeah,  nothing would - if data is stored to an area that fails, the data'd be munged. I must be tired out, I I should know that.06:42
archaiosext3 does not mark bad blocks, disasm -- if the write fails, it's not corrected06:42
NutubuntuAmen to backups, disasm06:42
Ademanin the *.ISO file there's a dir called "casper" and in it there's filesystem.manifest, and it looks to be a list of packages to be installed upon installation , is that true?06:42
brendonjtmadpilot:  what is the better FS  to use06:42
disasmarchaios: ok06:42
archaios1st-gen journalling filesystems do not provide such protection06:42
motinthe playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it <-- how do I know which is the process?06:42
archaiosreiser4 is more resilient to that sort of damage06:42
shawnr_Madpilot, so you agree that ext3 is good for my backups?06:43
archaiosbut reiser4 is not widely deployed and thus not highly tested yet06:43
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Madpilotbrendonjt, Ubuntu's default is ext306:43
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archaiosshawnr_, ext3 primarily prevents data loss through sudden power failures, etc -- it also saves lengthy fscks and such06:43
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archaiosshawnr_, it won't save you from failing hardware06:43
wweaselshawnr_: Yes, use ext3. ext2 is not more stable or whatever kool-aid that other guy is feeding you06:43
disasmarchaios: good to know06:43
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brendonjtmadpilot:  i mean for say a second harddrive orpartition06:44
archaiosreiser3 is faster, but it's a matter of personal opinion06:44
Sarra_Okay, wtf06:44
archaiosas to what you prefer06:44
Sarra_oh, duh, hold on06:44
archaioscertainly, I'm a big fan of Hans Reiser's work06:44
archaiosXFS and JFS aren't bad, either06:44
xeladosSarra_: Any luck with your drive/partition?06:44
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Sarra_What the hell06:45
Sarra_It's not letting me mount it at all now06:45
LajujKejI think I've removed bcm43xx, but I still cannot connect to these networks I see06:45
xeladosWhat command and error are you getting?06:46
xeladosAre you using the 'remount' option?06:46
Sarra_It's not giving an error06:46
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CarlFKhow do I tell what version of a package is installed, like ImageMagick ?06:46
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aeruzHello there!!!!06:46
xeladosCarlFK: imagemagick --help ?06:46
Nutubuntuarchaios-  about journaling - does that mean that a write is not complete until it's committed, so to speak, to the journal? So that if system crashes while data is being written, it's as if it hasn't been written? I should probably look this up ...06:46
Sarra_Okay, there06:47
xeladosor --version?06:47
Sarra_Fixed fstab right06:47
ladydoorCarlFK: which imagemagick06:47
Sarra_Whoa, thanks a ton xelados06:47
archaiosNutubuntu, well, there is two forms of journalling06:47
Sarra_I can actually read/write with full permissions now. :D06:47
archaiosdata journalling and structure journalling06:47
CarlFKhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/graphics/imagemagick06:47
Nutubuntuladydoor - which tells you where the software lives, not what version, I think06:47
CarlFKxelados: it is a package name, not a command06:48
aeruzI used gentoo for quite some time, and I remember I could see the binary files trough xterm nicely with the source code, nowwith ubuntu I can't do that, why is that??06:48
xeladosSarra_: No problem. Mounting can be a pain sometimes. :D06:48
archaiosNutubuntu: ext3 by default writes all data to the journal, in a record-centric manner, immediately - i.e. it is not cached06:48
Sarra_lmao nice pun06:48
ladydoor oh, lol...i thought zie was just trying to see whether it was installed period. maybe i should read more carefully06:48
archaiosNutubuntu: the actual commit to the filesystem is done in a lazy (write-back caching) manner06:48
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Nutubuntuarchaios - I think I understand that06:48
archaiosNutubuntu: if the system crashes, there is a copy of the data in the journal which can be used to recover06:48
archaiosreiser3 does partial journalling, so it's significantly faster06:48
xeladosCarlFK: I think Synaptic allows you to check the properties of a package, including the version you have installed.06:48
archaiosit stores primarily FS integrity records06:48
archaiosbut reiser3 is more liable to experience data loss with a crash, though filesystem integrity will be intact06:49
NickRiverswhat would I use to change the fs on my backup hdd?06:49
archaiosthere's a trade off between journalling form and filesystem speed06:49
AWOSDevIs there any place that sells Linux-compatible modems open during a hurricane?06:49
archaiosNickRivers, ext3 or reiser3 with data journalling enabled06:49
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archaiosor xfs06:49
CarlFKxelados: hoping for a command line way so I can cut/paste int an email06:49
Nutubuntuarchaios - got it - I will go hunt me down more info via google, and not tie up the chan on it, this is interesting to me - the trade-offs in particular06:49
ladydoorCarlFK: and aptitude definitely does06:49
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NickRiversarchaios: not which fs... which program do i use to change the fs?06:49
archaiosNutubuntu: namesys.com has a great overview of journalling06:49
Nutubuntut/y archaios06:49
archaiosNickRivers, you can't change fs without backing it up and performing an mk*fs06:50
archaioswell06:50
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archaiossome partition management programs can do it06:50
archaiosbut not many06:50
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archaiosyou can switch from ext2 to ext3 easily06:50
archaiosand vice-versa06:50
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archaiostune2fs -j, etc06:50
xasayahello06:50
archaiosNickRivers, if you're currently using ext2, it's a simple matter to change to ext306:51
xeladosAnyone know where fluxbox stores its included styles by any chance?06:51
NickRiversarchaios: ok... lemme be more specific... I don't care if I wipe out the data on my backup hdd - there's nothing on there that isn't on my system hdd... what prgram do i use to repartition it with a different fs?06:51
archaiosxelados, /usr/share or /usr/local/share somewhere I think06:51
archaiospossibly lib if it's not there06:51
xeladosarchaios: Alright, thanks. I'll check.06:51
archaiosNickRivers, well, you don't need to repartition06:51
CarlFKNickRivers: the ubuntu install cd will do it06:51
archaiosNickRivers, if you want to change to ext3: mke2fs -j06:51
archaiosNickRivers, if you want to change to reiserfs: mkreiserfs06:51
archaiosin either case06:52
NickRiversarchaios: it's reiserfs atm... I want to change it to ext306:52
xeladosarchaios: Yep, it was usr/share/fluxbox/styles06:52
archaiosNickRivers, I recommend you stay with reiserfs06:52
archaiosand enable data journalling06:52
archaioswhich is easy enough06:52
corndog_Anyone have an idea why my computer crashes when I burn a cd? 64bit ubuntu... both gnomebaker and k3b06:52
archaioshigher performance and the same level of safety06:52
NickRiversarchaios: ok - how do I enable data journaling?06:52
CarlFKNickRivers: why do you want to change, and do you want a fresh OS install?06:52
archaiosNickRivers: one moment06:52
brendonjtarchaios:  what about from fat3206:52
LajujKejI am still confused about this wireless card.  Ndiswrapper shows the driver and hardware present, but I cannpt connect to networks.06:52
brendonjtarchaios:  what about from fat32 to say ext3  or reiser06:53
archaiosNickRivers, do you have the device name for your backup drive?06:53
LajujKejI am pretty sure I blacklisted the other driver06:53
AWOSDevLajujKej: Try wlassistant06:53
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NickRiversarchaios: yes06:53
archaiosbrendonjt, the only option there is to backup and repartition06:53
archaiosNickRivers, ok, edit /etc/fstab06:53
michaelon the topic of file systems, whats the opinion if ur sharing w/windows?06:53
archaiosNickRivers, find the relevant line06:53
michaelvfat?06:53
archaiosfor the backup device06:53
archaiosand paste it06:53
brendonjtarchaios:  i have a backup drive and it is fat3206:53
Madpilotmichael, there are Windows drivers for ext3 available06:53
casey_michael: i've been using ntfs-3g which has been nice for ntfs support.06:53
CarlFKmichael:  www.fs-driver.org It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access).06:54
LajujKejAWOSDev that command isn't found06:54
michaelbut does it corrupt?06:54
xeladosmichael: I'd suggest FAT32. Windows and Linux can both read and write to them. However, I think NTFS write support was recently implemented.06:54
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NickRiversarchaios: /dev/sda1       /backups        reiserfs        defaults,notail 0       006:54
casey_michael: not so far, it doesn't.06:54
archaiosNickRivers, ok06:54
archaioschange that to...06:54
AWOSDevLajujKej: try sudo apt-get install wlassistant first :)06:54
Axe_ /I'm having trouble with a launcher in my applications menu.06:54
archaios/dev/sda1       /backups        reiserfs        defaults,notail,data=journal 0       006:54
Axe_It launches a shell script06:54
michaeltx, ill check it out06:54
Axe_Yet the terminal opens up and closes real quick06:54
archaiosNickRivers: so, add ",data=journal" after notail06:54
Axe_why?06:54
NickRiversarchaios: can i do that for my system hdd as well?06:54
archaiosand save the file06:54
archaiosNickRivers: sure06:55
NickRiversthnx06:55
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Axe_If I double click on said script in nautilus it works fine06:55
LajujKejAWOSDev is this program similar to network manager, which is what I am running?06:55
archaiosNickRivers: all you need to do is add ,data=journal to the fourth field (the one that contains 'defaults')06:55
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xasayasomebody can help to resolv a problem of rendering under cinelerra?06:55
archaiosNickRivers: then reboot06:55
xeladosThanks for the help, guys.06:55
AWOSDevLajujKej: No, it shows you all the different wireless networks available in your range06:55
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LajujKejAWOSDev but I can see these already?06:56
archaiosmichael: you can use RFSTool and related GUIs to access ReiserFS Linux partitions from Windows, too06:56
archaiosthere's plenty of tools for ext2/3 access of course06:56
zoidbergwhat else do i need to play  .wmv .avi quikticme and realplayer fiels that are streaming from a webpage06:57
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jpjacobszoidberg, mozilla-mplayer?06:57
archaiosmplayer is a good choice06:57
zoidbergguys is there a gxine plugin for playing streaming files in firefox including .wmv06:57
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jpjacobszoidberg, there is06:58
archaioszoidberg, MPlayer is a much better media player in my view06:58
zoidbergreally06:58
archaiosit supports a great deal more formats06:58
zoidbergdamn06:58
zoidbergokay06:58
zoidbergso what do i need to install06:58
xasayacinelerra? one more time...06:58
archaioszoidberg, mplayer and mozilla-mplayer as jpjacobs suggested06:58
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Nutubuntuarchaios:   thanks for pointing me to namesys.com, interesting site, lots to read there :)06:58
NutubuntuBe well, all06:58
archaiosNutubuntu: yes, it's quite interesting, has in-depth discussion of reiserfs06:58
archaiosdamn06:58
archaiosmissed him!06:58
jpjacobszoidberg, indeed, i tried it, and (maybe it has improved ) back then it sucked: it just opened a new gxine window, and with a whole lot of luck it was playing06:58
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archaiosmplayer is very fast and efficient, even played DVDs well on my old celeron 333 without any hardware decoding support06:59
archaiosbetter than any windows app!06:59
hitjim2.6.12-10-386 has a date of Jul 18 this year, is that still the most recent kernel?06:59
zoidbergi just thought gxine would be better07:00
zoidbergi like it for playing stuff form my hard drive07:00
zoidbergbut i guess its the way to go for streaming stuff07:00
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archaioshitjim, if you're talking about vanilla kernels, no07:00
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archaios2.6.17.11 is out, and 2.6.18-rc507:00
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signiusHi guys07:00
hitjimfigures... used an old install cd07:01
hitjimthx07:01
zoidbergby the way guys07:01
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signiusHas anyone here managed to succesfully get the version of Evolution in dapper drake to connect to an Exchange 2003 Server07:01
zoidberganyone know how to get ATI TV-Wonder card to work on dapper?07:01
Madpilothitjim, if you've installed Ubuntu, you'll be updated to the most recent kernel in the repos automatically...07:01
signiusI just get constant authentication failures07:01
hitjimya, it's just ubuntu w/kubuntu-desktop &packages etc07:02
cracka12does anyone know how i software raid 2 drives, these will just data drives (raid0) and mount them on /home07:02
xasayaits crazy, all ubuntu channel (ubuntu-fr, ubuntu-tw, ubuntu, cinelerra) don't respond me....07:02
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kerwonz:-)07:02
hitjimya kind of threw me with vanilla there07:02
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xasayaand it's an important software for linux users like me07:02
archaioshitjim: sorry, I tend to use vanilla kernels... I'm a little unorthodox ;)07:02
hitjimhah, fair enough07:02
hitjimso what flavor is the standard install?07:03
meatheadexit07:03
rageCan someone point me in the right direction for a package that can be used to be a roaming profile server for Windows boxes? or better yet a guide on how to setup one for a small network?07:03
cracka12does anyone know how i software raid 2 drives, these will just data drives (raid0) and mount them on a user account07:03
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BHSPitLappy!root07:03
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:03
kitsuneofdoomI have been using screen, irssi, ssh, and bitlbee together for a little while, but now I'm suddenly having a whole host of problems. Screen keeps quitting on me and doing funky things, irssi hangs as well07:04
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xasayahouhou, there is someone?07:04
hitjimwell... back to trying to get my onboard broadcom wifi to work.  ndiswrapper, here we come07:04
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kitsuneofdoomActually, it's only had problems when I've been talking over wifi07:05
cafuego_hitjim: A 4306 or 4318 can use the normal free driver (with firmware).07:05
dougskoumm...what do you guys get when you run 'which cd'? for some crazy reason, it doesnt return anything for me07:05
dougskoi cant find the cd command. but it does work07:05
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brendonjti formated my second hdd to ext3  how do i automount it07:06
dougskoi know it should be at /bin/cd, but its not07:06
Jukrudougsko: maybe "cd" is shell built-in command?07:06
kitsuneofdoomOk. I have been using screen over ssh to access an irssi session which also has bitlbee running over it, and everything started to spontaneously quit on me when I accessed it over wifi.07:06
hitjimhmm... i'll give it a shot07:06
hitjimthx07:06
dougskobrendonjt: add it to /etc/fstab07:06
kitsuneofdoomwell, not quit, it hung. and then stopped working07:07
dougskokitsuneofdoom: maybe your connection  lost strength?07:07
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hitjimis that the madwifi?07:07
brendonjtok and the options for all users?07:07
CarlFKdougsko: man bash... /cd... "HOME   The home directory of the current user; the default argument for              the cd builtin command.  ":07:07
hitjimcafuego?07:07
dougskoJukru: hmm...i didnt know it worked like that. i thought cd was its own program07:07
kitsuneofdoom dougsko: but the screen session on the SERVING computr crashed07:07
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Ademanis there any easy way to change the packages that the liveCD will run with?07:08
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kitsuneofdoomdougsko: if the connection was lost, if I looked at the serving computers scren session, it should still be operational07:08
dougskokitsuneofdoom: thats wierd07:08
cafuego_hitjim: wiki.ubuntu.com -> search for bcm43xx - follow the instructions :-)07:08
hitjimindeed.  ty07:09
Ashexwhat's the proper syntax for checking out from an svn?07:09
dougskokitsuneofdoom: yeah07:09
AWOSDevI found that for the 4318, it's easier and works better if you use NDISwrapper.07:09
Ashexsuch as this one: http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/browser/trunk07:09
dougskokitsuneofdoom: does screen crash during the use of other programs?07:09
kitsuneofdoomdougsko: Well, I haven't tested it much, I'm normally using irssi and bitlbee07:09
dougskokitsuneofdoom: its gotta be something small. im using that exact same setup right now07:10
SpCombcracka12: mdadm --create --level=0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/md0 /dev/sdc /dev/sdb && mkfs.ext3 /dev/md0 && mkdir /mnt/data/ && mount /dev/md0 /mnt/data/ .... tell me if you figure out how to make it automatically assemble the raid on bootup though07:10
CarlFKAshex:  svn checkout svn://...07:10
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CarlFKAshex: not sure about svn and http access07:10
dougskodoes it work ok if youre wired?07:10
kitsuneofdoomdougsko: oddly enough, I don't recall as much problems when the laptop I had been connecting to it over wifi was on windows07:11
brendonjtdougsko: what about the options  and the likes  don't really get that  off hand07:11
Ashexyeah, i'm don't feel like downloading one file at a time07:11
blfisherWhen using iptables to masquerade my LAN, I can get on the internet but cannot connect to IRC from the LAN07:11
kitsuneofdoomdougsko: no problems wired07:11
blfisherDoes anyone know why this might be happening?07:11
kitsuneofdoomdougsko: it might be an error with the Linux wifi driver?07:11
kitsuneofdoomdougsko: I have a broadcom 431907:11
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wubrgamerhow do i change ssh from port 22 to port 44307:12
dougskokitsuneofdoom: thats always a possibility i guess. wireless and linux really kinda sucks07:12
wubrgamerto listen etc.07:12
Jukruwubrgamer: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config07:12
cafuego_kitsuneofdoom: I don't know if that one is actually supported yet by the version of bcm43xx in Dapper.07:12
dougskobrendonjt: what options do you mean?07:12
cafuego_wubrgamer: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config07:12
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kitsuneofdoomcafuego_ and dougsko: you got to admit, it's a really odd bug07:12
wubrgamerwhat about /etc/ssh/ssh_config07:13
wubrgamernot the sshd one but just ssh07:13
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wubrgamercause there are two files07:13
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wubrgamerand i'm confuzzles07:13
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brendonjtread write for all users07:13
cafuego_wubrgamer: No, I'd have said it if I had meant that one ;-)07:13
Jukruwubrgamer: just edit sshd_config07:13
dougskokitsuneofdoom: yeah, what wlan driver do you use?07:13
brendonjtdougsko: read write for all userws07:13
wubrgamerbut what IS ssh_config ? what's the difference ?07:13
kitsuneofdoomdougsko: the fwcutter one07:13
archaiosssh_config is for the client07:13
mikey3521Hey, Would anyone here beable to offer me some support with a DellPowerEdge/ UbuntuServerInstall & PercRaid? I've had the server for almost 2 weeks and havn't beenable to get it working, and no-one seems to have an answer...07:13
wubrgamerthat's the main thing confuzzling me07:14
archaiossshd_config is for the server07:14
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wubrgameraah07:14
wubrgamerthank you07:14
wubrgamerso one more thing07:14
wubrgamerif i DO edit the client one07:14
wubrgamerwhat happens ?07:14
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dougskokitsuneofdoom: oh, ive never even heard of that one... :P07:14
archaiosnothing07:14
archaioswubrgamer, if you add a server parameter to the client config, it won't do anything07:14
wubrgamerno07:14
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cafuego_wubrgamer: You could add an entry on client to ssh_config and tell it to sue port 443 when connection to that specific server.07:14
wubrgamerno07:14
archaios443 is SSL07:14
archaioswhy would you do that?07:14
wubrgamerbut what if i replace 22 to 44307:14
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cafuego_archaios: Hole in firewall07:15
wubrgamerso i can evade my schools blocking of port 2207:15
wubrgamerthank you07:15
dougskobrendonjt: im sorry, what program are you setting up?07:15
archaioswubrgamer, if port 22 is blocked, use another port07:15
CarlFKmikey3521: I would post to the -server list - the raid is goingto need someone special07:15
archaiosnot a "well-known" port07:15
archaiosbesides07:15
wubrgameri am07:15
archaiosmany schools/universities/etc. block port 80 and 443, or require transparent proxying07:15
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wubrgamerwhat ?07:15
archaiosbetter to use an unusual port07:15
wubrgamerreally ?07:15
brendonjtdougsko: fstab  to allow me access to my second harddrive07:15
archaioswubrgamer, yes07:15
archaiosmy institution, for one, blocks port 80 unless you use their proxy07:16
mikey3521Carlfx, Where can i post to this list?07:16
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dougskobrendonjt: oh ok, my fault :)07:16
wubrgameroh07:16
wubrgamerbut can't i just use their proxy to connect to my home account ?07:16
wubrgameron port 443 ?07:16
brendonjtdougsko: noworries07:16
dougskobrendonjt: a good thing to do is just look at how your other drives are mounted07:16
archaioswubrgamer, yes07:16
kitsuneofdoomOk. I've got a bizarre problem here. When I try to connect to a screen session over secure shell running irssi and bitlbee with my 64-bit laptop to my 32-bit desktop, both running Dapper 6.06, using my broadcom 4319 card and the fwcutter driver (the 64 bit one) screen or irssi crash a lot07:16
archaioseven through a proxy, you can07:16
archaiosbecause CONNECT is permitted explicitly for 443 on all proxies that support SSL HTTP07:16
CarlFKmikey3521: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server07:16
archaioswubrgamer, but if you can use a port other than 44307:17
archaiosI would advise it07:17
wubrgamerkk07:17
dougskobrendonjt: you have it mounted already you said?07:17
wubrgameri'll try em both out07:17
NickRiversanyone know how I would go about adding terminal to the right-click menu on my desktop?07:17
wubrgamer@nickrivers what are you using ?07:17
archaioswubrgamer, use a non-standard port so that you're not conflicting with a "well-known" service port07:17
dougskoNickRivers: what wm?07:17
cafuego_NickRivers: install nautilus-open-terminal07:17
NickRiverswubrgamer: gnome07:17
archaioswubrgamer, lest you need to run an SSL-capable httpd someday07:17
wubrgamerwhat do you mean conflict ?07:17
stacyhi all... I got the "Blue screen of death" when I tried to upgrade to dapper... I saw this: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue and did everything it says, but I still get the bluescreen when I boot into Ubuntu... any help?07:18
archaioswubrgamer, ports are allocated with the IANA (/etc/services et al) for specific purposes07:18
brendonjtnope i formated it  to ext3  and trying to mount it07:18
archaiosyou can use any port for any service07:18
wubrgameroh wow07:18
archaiosbut it's not recommended07:18
cafuego_wubrgamer: As long as the port you want to run sshd on is not already in use, pick whichever one you want.07:18
brendonjtdougsko:nope i formated it  to ext3  and trying to mount it07:18
archaiosbecause it can cause all sorts of confusion07:18
dougskobrendonjt: what's the drive called?07:18
dougskobrendonjt: like /dev/hdb4 or something?07:18
archaioswubrgamer, are you able to make outgoing connections on ports > 5000 for example?07:18
wubrgameri'm not sure07:18
wubrgamerbut the main thing is that i'm not going to be hosting anything on 44307:19
archaioswubrgamer, find out, and preferably use such a port :P07:19
brendonjtdougsko: /dev/hdb1  <mount point> /media/misc07:19
wubrgamerbut i'm not HOSTING anything on 44307:19
archaioswubrgamer, I know you're not, but it's best practice07:19
archaioswubrgamer, anyway, if they force you to use a proxy for outgoing HTTP and SSL connections, 443 may not be the best choice07:19
brendonjtdougsko: i want it so all users  can access it read/write07:19
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wubrgamerwhy not ?07:19
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archaioswubrgamer, do you require a proxy setup in your browser at school?07:19
wubrgamer@archaios, move into Pm, we are dominating the channel07:20
dougskobrendonjt: add a line to /ets/fstab like this:07:21
dougsko/dev/hdb4       /mnt/hdb        ext3    defaults        0       007:21
dougskochange the /dev/ and the mount point07:22
dougskoand that's all on one line07:22
corndog_Whats the best way to trace a system crash?07:22
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dougskocorndog_: dmesg is helpful sometimes07:23
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stacy hi all... I got the "Blue screen of death" when I tried to upgrade to dapper... I saw this: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue and did everything it says, but I still get the bluescreen when I boot into Ubuntu... any help?07:23
dougskobrendonjt: did you add the line?07:23
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corndog_dougsko, thanks ill read up on that07:24
tomasz27is it hard to setup DREAMWEAVER using WINE under Ubuntu?07:24
brendonjtdougsko: yip thanks07:24
dougskocorndog_: just type 'dmesg'07:24
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fyrestrtrstacy: what kind of video card do you have?07:24
fr500hello07:24
dougskobrendonjt: ok, now to mount it, type 'mount -a'07:24
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dougskobrendonjt: and then type 'mount' to confirm that it worked07:25
xasayasome cinelerra users?07:25
corndog_dougsko, is this mainly used for bootup?07:25
stacyfyrestrtr: not sure... how do I check?07:25
dougskocorndog_: yes, but if you crash, you can boot into single user mode and read it. it writes over itself on boot07:26
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corndog_dougsko, ok thanks.. time to go force the crash then07:26
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fr500when i try to install gstreamer-plugins ugly multiverse it says liblame not available, why?07:26
irawandear all, I've got xubuntu, what would be the easy app to manage printers?07:27
AWOSDevIf I unplug my PCMCIA wireless card I won't have to reboot to get it working again right?07:27
dougskocorndog_: read up on how to get into single user mode, i forget how to stop the boot process07:27
irawanor easy way to manage printers07:27
dougskocorndog_: then you type something like, boot -s07:27
brendonjtdougsko: it is there just going to check to see if i can read write to it now07:27
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dougskobrendonjt: cool07:27
AWOSDevIt's a Broadcom Air Force 431807:28
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AWOSDevwith NDISwrapper drivers07:28
brendonjtdougsko: ok  should there be a folder there  called lost+found ?07:28
dougskobrendonjt: yeah07:28
dougskobrendonjt: you can get rid of it07:28
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cafuego_ndiswrapper, who knows?07:28
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brendonjtdougsko: ok  thank you i have learnt something from you today  something to add to my lessons07:29
AWOSDevThat better be sarcasm I hear in your voice, cafuego_ :)07:29
AWOSDevI guess it's worth a shot, here goes, well, my perfect uptime rating07:29
dougskobrendonjt: np07:29
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castillohey, what's up!! i'm new in linux, any good advice?07:30
fr500castillo: try it!07:30
AWOSDevGet the "Beginning Ubuntu" book that just came out07:30
castillowhere can i find it?07:30
AWOSDevAt any bookstore :P07:30
brendonjtdougsko: umm only root has write permission  what  do i need to do to change it to all users07:31
AWOSDevI personally saw it the other day while browsing the UNIX section in Barnes & Noble Booksellers.07:31
archaiosbrendonjt, mount -o uid=xx,gid=xx07:31
AWOSDevHow do I know if Ubuntu detected my new PCMCIA card or not?07:31
castilloyeah, i know that but the thing is that i live in guatemala07:31
archaiosbrendonjt, or specify it in the fourth field of fstab07:31
archaiosbrendonjt, there's also umask=xxx07:32
archaiosand mode=xxx07:32
archaiosany of those will help you set the appropriate permissions07:32
AWOSDevcastillo: Try the Internet07:32
archaiosbrendonjt, who do you want to have access to this mount?07:32
cafuego_AWOSDev: `dmesg' is your favourite command.07:32
brendonjtdougsko: ok  i want to do that at boot up  so in the 4th field  change the 0 to umask=xxx07:32
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xasayanew channel #ubuntu-jp07:33
michelpdirectly off topic, but can anyone who speaks german tell me what Biete means?  I swear it's indirectly related to Ubuntu ;)07:33
brendonjtdougsko: all users  on my system07:33
archaiosbrendonjt, ok07:33
castillodidin't you ment bitte?07:34
archaiosbrendonjt, change field 4 from "defaults" to "defaults,mode=777"07:34
archaiosbrendonjt, in /etc/fstab07:34
archaiosthen save it and reboot07:34
michelpno, Biete, as in a link on a app i'm trying to translate entitled 'Biete - Suche'07:34
archaiosthat will give all users write access, brendonjt07:34
AWOSDevcafuego_ -- uh, there's nothing in there since boot time07:34
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AWOSDevand then the "eth1 removed"07:34
archaiosactually, brendonjt07:34
archaiosis that ext3?07:34
archaiosif so, forget what I just said07:34
archaiosand do...07:34
cafuego_AWOSDev: Then I would hazard it didn't redetect the wifi card.07:35
archaioschmod -R 777 /mnt/hdb07:35
archaioswhen /mnt/hdb is mounted07:35
archaios(as root)07:35
archaiosso,07:35
archaiossudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/hdb07:35
AWOSDevNo, I removed the WiFi card to insert a PCMCIA modem07:35
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AWOSDevI'm downgrading :P07:35
cafuego_archaios: 775; Note using groups.07:35
brendonjtdougsko: so i change it back  to what  it was and type the above then07:35
AWOSDevIs there something like lspcmcia?07:36
castillodo you guys know wich antivirus is the best for linux?07:36
AWOSDevIf there's an lspci, lsmod, ...07:36
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archaioscafuego_, he said all users07:36
archaios777 is appropriate for all users07:36
AWOSDevcastillo: That's the beauty07:36
AWOSDevcastillo: We don't have viruses! :)07:36
AWOSDevcastillo: Okay, we've had two in 15 years.07:36
AWOSDevcastillo: Still worried?  :P07:36
cafuego_archaios: Yes, except he's better off not letting 'nobody' access the files and use a specific group.07:37
mikedis there a way to make it so if your using nautilus over ssh/ftp you can chmod files?07:37
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castilloi don't know because i changed switched today from windows to linux07:37
signiusFinally got Evolution to connect to the Exchange Server and it has the most unclear way of connecting that really needs to be addressed07:37
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AWOSDevcastillo: I know, I was just saying :)07:37
signiusit requires domain\username for the username not just the username07:38
archaioscafuego_, I'm just going by what he said... but nobody is not a concern if you're not running any daemons as that uid07:38
castilloyea07:38
luigiis safe to update after that bugged one?07:38
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luigii haven't updated that one yet07:38
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cafuego_archaios: Invariably people are. it's better to keep it more secure.07:38
signiusnone if that is explained in the evolution full documentation07:38
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brendonjtdougsko: so will i have to do that command  when i boot up each time?07:38
castillothat's why i have millions of questions about linux07:38
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infidelanyone install xgl here that can give me a quick hand?07:38
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thomascan anyone tell me why my wireless will get an ip on the network, but won't be able to access anything on it?\07:39
castillobut aventually they will vanish07:39
AWOSDevthomas: Same problem here, still don't know why :(07:39
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jake1is anyone aware of a program that is compatable with Microsoft Entourage and Outlook schedules07:39
thomasargh!07:39
jake1for Ubuntu07:39
archaioscafuego_, if I were running a server, I wouldn't be using ubuntu, since it's aimed primarily at end-users...07:39
AWOSDevjake1: Evolution07:39
AWOSDevjake1: At least it was last I used it (which was in Novell/SuSE)07:40
cafuego_archaios: No excuse is good enough for bad security behaviour.07:40
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cafuego_Not even never turning the system on and puring it in concrete.07:40
jake1AWOSDev: will that sync with schedules from people who use outlook07:40
jake1or entourage07:40
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jake1if they invite me07:40
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AWOSDevarchaios: Um, Ubuntu actually just got the eWEEK Best Linux Server OS award :)07:40
wweaselDoes anyone here know how to make the aMSN menus look nicer? I've read it's possible, but I forget how07:40
AWOSDevjake1: I believe so, I didn't really get to use it very much07:40
AWOSDevjake1: I07:41
jake1supposebly microsoft will be releasing a linux version of their office07:41
AWOSDevjake1: I'm too busy for a schedule :P07:41
luigilol07:41
Lilandrahuh?07:41
AWOSDevjake1: If that actually happens07:41
fr500wweasel: hmmm use gaim wweasel07:41
AWOSDevjake1: I'll will be first in line to buy it :)07:41
XxXBrAnDoNXxXI DONT LIKE MICROSOFT07:41
XxXBrAnDoNXxXlol07:41
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Lilandraand how much would they charge us?07:42
wweaselfr500: When I ask a question for support for one App, and people say "Use this app, I use it" it pisses me off. Know why? Cause it's completely counter-productive. Clearly you don't know how to help me, keep it to yourself.07:42
luigiis safe to update after that bugged one, i havn't updated since i knew it was bad07:42
stacyfyrestrtr: Trident Video Accelerator CyberBlade XP Ai1 v59030 008A 22ICDNP07:42
archaiosstacy: eww07:42
archaiosthat's a terrible graphics card :P07:42
archaiosI used to have one07:42
stacyits olk07:42
bluefox83jake1, why the hell would microsoft release a linux version of MS office when we already have OpenOffice?07:42
archaiosit's very unfriendly on Linux07:42
stacyold07:42
archaiosruns horrifically slowly07:42
archaiosstacy, yeah I know07:43
luigiis safe to update after that bugged one, i havn't updated since i knew it was bad07:43
stacycan i run dapper on it?07:43
archaiosI had one up until a year ago :P07:43
jake1it's more for outlook than their entire office package07:43
archaiosstacy, sure07:43
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corndog_wweasel, you must also realize this is the second or third time you have come into an OS support channel requesting software support07:43
archaiosstacy, but X (the GUI) doesn't run well on it07:43
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stacyso how do I fix the BSOD?07:43
jake1outlook is very important to business ppl07:43
archaiosstacy, it runs very slowly07:43
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bluefox83jake1, we don't need outlook, there's evolution...07:43
luigiis safe to update after that bugged one, i havn't updated since i knew it was bad07:43
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archaiosstacy, because it doesn't have hardware accelerated support, even with the trident driver07:43
irawanfound it, I just install gnome-cups-manager for printer management in xubuntu07:43
archaiosstacy, (no OpenGL, no DRI)07:43
corndog_wweasel, people offer other packages that you might not be aware of and you still get an attitude07:43
rredd4luigi  you mean for x, yes.. make sure your repo is updated    sudo apt-get update07:44
fr500wweasel: well sorry man, then, fiddle with qt settings a bit, but it's not much you can do07:44
stacyarchaios: sorry... i don't know what that means07:44
archaiosstacy, I suggest you get a new gfx card if you want to be able to run anything demanding, like anything 3D (OpenGL)07:44
castillodoes anybody know what games are aviable for ubuntu?07:44
luigikkkkkk THANK RREDD407:44
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fr500wweasel: it's like xmms, i never get it to look right07:44
archaiosstacy, it means that the graphics card will run very slowly on Linux07:44
stacydon't need 3D07:44
stacythat's ok07:44
rredd4luigi  you should be downloading  version 10.407:44
stacyi just want to be able to run gdm07:44
wweaselcastillo: Check it out under Add and Remove Programs.07:44
archaiosstacy, should work07:44
rredd4luigi  10.3 was the buggy one07:44
archaiosstacy, it did for me07:44
stacyi still get the BSOD07:44
castillook, thanks07:45
archaiosstacy, what does the BSOD say exactly07:45
stacyi tried to upgrade during the buggy thingo07:45
wweaselfr500: Sorry I snapped at you, I've clearly been awake too long. It is a pet peeve of mine, but you didn't deserve that.07:45
jake1bluefox83: but can you accept invites from clients or colleagues who use outlook07:45
rredd4luigi  you can go to the ubuntu web site for help also07:45
jake1or entourage07:45
fr500wweasel: np07:45
jake1i haven't tried it yet07:45
stacyarchaios: just like it shows here: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue07:45
jake1but i want to see if it works07:45
archaiosjake1: outlook may be important to you07:45
bluefox83jake1, what kind of invites?07:45
castillosorry for asking stupid quiestions but it's my first day as a ubuntu user07:45
archaiosbut it's not "very important for business ppl"07:45
jake1schedule syncing07:45
archaiosmost people I know only use outlook as a basic mail client, jake107:45
archaiosall my business clients included07:46
bluefox83jake1, possibly..i've never tried it before07:46
jake1wow......... ur bussiness clients are dumb07:46
archaiosjake1, no they're not...07:46
jake1i use it to schedule my mettings07:46
archaiosjake1, it's just not necessary -_-07:46
jake1meetings*07:46
wweaselfr500: Check this out, this guy has it right: http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/Icons/Emerald-Skin_mainWindow.png :P07:46
bluefox83actually using outlook like that is a bad idea concidering how bad of a security vulnerability it is07:46
jake1and keep in sync with ppl at work07:46
archaiosjake1, Outlook is highly insecure anyway07:46
archaiosas bluefox83 rightly points out07:47
brendonjtwhat is the terminal  command for move?07:47
hitjimmv07:47
jake1that's not the point07:47
archaiosjake1, but I doubt Ubuntu supports what you want07:47
hitjimI got one!07:47
archaiosschedule syncing and such are proprietary Microsoft features07:47
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Green_MageHello07:47
stacyarchaios: it does seem to be a video problem... when I go to the login prompt, the bottom 2 inches are always black... i can't see what's happening07:47
archaiosand I don't think there's any open source client for that07:47
hitjimor to play it safe, you could just use "cp"07:47
archaiosjake1, it may be possible to run Outlook using WINE though07:47
castilloso, all the programs i need are in add and remove?07:47
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jake1which is probably why microsoft is releasing a linux version07:47
hitjimand rm the old file, when the new one is in the place you want07:47
Green_MageI'm trying to install Ubuntu, but I keep getting a "CD-ROM not detected, please insert driver disk" error07:48
archaiosjake1, wine can run Outlook to do what you want07:48
hitjimall those were for "brendonjt"07:48
bluefox83archaios, there's no reason to think you couldn't do that with a simple plugin in evolution...07:48
jake1archaios i dnt think that my computer can take WINE07:48
archaiosstacy: it's plausible that it does not support your graphics card without a work-around07:48
jake1cuz it's a 64-bit07:48
fr500wweasel: let's see07:48
archaiosstacy: I remember that the CyberBlade XP is only supported using the vesa driver07:48
archaiosthe Ubuntu setup may not be using it07:48
stacyanybody know a linux geek in Tucson, AZ who could help me?  I can pay... a bit...07:48
archaiosBlueEagle, the communications protocols are closed and proprietary07:49
archaioserr07:49
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archaiosbluefox83 even07:49
archaiosbluefox83, whilst it could be done, I don't think it actually has been done07:49
brendonjthitjim:  as i backup some stuff onto my ipod and wanting to move it back,  in X  it tell me i/o error07:49
archaiosbluefox83, few people actually use it07:49
archaioseven among business Outlook users...07:49
thomasis there a network manager applet for kde?07:49
AWOSDevstacy, if you want to fly out to Florida after the hurricane I can help :P07:49
bluefox83archaios, i don't think any business would be foolish enough to actually rely on anything like that..least i hope not..07:49
archaiosbluefox83, I agree07:49
rredd4stacy  ask your question, maybe we can help you!07:49
AWOSDevI only charge ~$50 (depending on what's wrong)07:49
archaiosbluefox83, none of my clients (even all those in the IT industry) use that feature07:50
bluefox83AWOSDev, what part of florida you in?07:50
archaiosbluefox83, it's actually a relic that dates back to Windows for Workgroups 3.11 -- Schedule+07:50
AWOSDevthe South area07:50
archaiosbluefox83, they simply rebranded it and integrated it into Outlook07:50
AWOSDevlike where the hurricane's going :P07:50
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hitjimso you're wanting to move stuff from your ipod to your linux box?07:50
bluefox83AWOSDev, i live up by Gainesville07:50
AWOSDevcloser to West Palm Beach than Miami07:50
AWOSDevbut I don't disclose actual locations on IRC :)07:51
archaiosjake1, can't take WINE? WINE is a Windows emulator, if you're thinking it's something else07:51
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archaiosjake1, but any modern PC can use it07:51
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AWOSDevI'm so confused07:51
archaiosjake1, it requires minimal system resources07:51
HellDragonne 1 cn help me i nd a real time lin00kx07:51
dangsondoes anyone know where I can download the glib package?07:51
HellDragonlol just kidding07:51
bluefox83AWOSDev, heh..just wondering if you weren't an old freind of my family...he used to live in Ocala and would fix my parent's computers back in the dos days07:51
jake1archaios no.... not if it's a 32-bit build07:51
AWOSDevNo, but I know more about DOS than any decent person ought to :P07:51
bluefox83HellDragon, you have the same nick as my grilfreind..that's kinda creepy..07:51
HellDragonlol really ?07:52
archaiosjake1, x64 Linux installations can use 32-bit binaries...07:52
jake1sometimes07:52
dmsantamdangson apt-cache search glib| grep ^libglib07:52
bluefox83AWOSDev, your name wouldn't be Dan would it?07:52
stacyrredd4: I'm still getting the BSOD even after doing the fix recommended after installing a bad version of Dapper07:52
AWOSDevNo, it's actually Andrew07:52
Lilandrawhat about ppc and wine?07:52
jake1i've heard wine does not work on the amd 6407:52
archaiosjake1, also, wine can be built for 64-bit07:52
archaiosno.07:52
bluefox83ok..lol07:52
archaiosit does work.07:52
archaiosI assure you!~07:52
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dangsondmsantam, thanks!07:52
archaiosjake1, my AMD64 4000+ certainly runs wine as both a 32-bit and a 64-bit binary07:52
infidelhow come every time i search for something in synaptics i gt no return/07:52
AWOSDevDoes anybody know where I could find PCMCIA anything on Linux?07:52
dmsantamdangson np07:53
rredd4stacy    you mean the x bug?07:53
AWOSDevNOT CardBus, real, raw, PCMCIA from the 1990s.07:53
archaiosrredd4, it's not an X bug in her case07:53
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LilandraCan I run wine on PPC?07:53
archaiosshe's using a highly unsupported graphics card, rredd407:53
bluefox83infidel, make sure your sources.list isn't empty...07:53
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rredd4oh07:53
rredd4i c07:53
rredd4hmmm07:53
archaiosrredd4, the Trident CyberBlade XP isn't supported by any X installation except as a framebuffer (vesafb) or vesa driver07:53
stacyrredd4: looks just like it does here: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue07:53
AWOSDevPlease?  I need the modem because of the hurricane.  It's the only way I'll be able to connect (seeing as I have cable)07:53
hitjimexit07:53
jake1actually it would require some fussing with in order to get it to work07:53
archaiosstacy: yes, the same message, but a different cause07:53
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infidelbluefox83: i have several repositories checked07:53
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archaiosjake1: wine always requires configuration07:54
archaiosjake1: it's not meant to be "easy"07:54
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archaiosjake1: it's meant to be functional07:54
meatheadI'll paypal four dollars to anyone who can help me burn one dvd in ubuntu07:54
stacycan I just go back to Breezy?07:54
AWOSDevActually, archaios, I just downloaded the binaries and instantly I got it to work07:54
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bluefox83infidel, what are you looking for?07:54
Green_MageHow does one go about getting help in here? Is there a line?07:54
meatheadI'd like to note, that ubuntu sucks, and every burning program I've tried gives me strange errors07:54
AWOSDevmeathead -- I can help!07:54
dmsantammeathead $4? you're gonna have to go to #ubuntu-slave-labor07:54
archaiosAWOSDev, yes, but if you want to optimise it and get it running well07:54
archaiosyou really do need to edit wine_config07:54
dmsantam:P07:54
AWOSDevarchaios: it's called winecfg, super easy07:55
meatheadAWOSDev: you SURE you can help?07:55
archaiosAWOSDev, especially if you're using apps that are heavily reliant on windows-specific features07:55
archaiossuch as TAPI07:55
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archaiosAWOSDev, I don't like it!07:55
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Axe_meathead: what apps have you tried07:55
AWOSDevmeathead, I can sure give it a shot for $4 :P07:55
bluefox83meathead, you sure you aren't experiencing ID10T errors?07:55
mkquist_hey is the update safe now?07:55
stacyarchaios: can I just go back to Breezy?07:55
dmsantamGreen_Mage just ask a good question07:55
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infidelbluefox83: xgl, compiz, plugins, flash07:55
archaiosstacy: have you tried the fix given on the site?07:55
Green_MageI'm having trouble installing Ubuntu07:55
dmsantammkquist_ what update?07:55
meatheadgnomebaker, the built in ubuntu support, nerolinux07:55
jake1well archaios show me a link that explains how to do it07:55
stacyarchaios: yes07:55
dmsantamGreen_Mage that's not a question. let alone a good question.07:55
jake1cuz i've been looking07:55
archaiosstacy: and it didn't work?07:55
Green_MageIt says there's no CD-ROM drive detected07:55
infidelbluefox83: i didn't have the unerversal checked though07:56
meatheadbluefox83: positive.07:56
mkquist_the one that crashed everyones x server last week07:56
stacyarchaios: nope07:56
meatheadbluefox83: I'm no meathead.07:56
Green_MageAnd it asks for a driver disk07:56
Axe_meathead: I just installed ubuntu last night, I installed gnomebaker, it works fine07:56
bluefox83infidel, you need to make sure you have the unsupported and restricted boxes checked for all your sources...07:56
archaiosjake1: AWOSDev may be able to help more than I can, I tend to configure such things manually07:56
dfdhello07:56
meatheadAxe_: good for you. die.07:56
bluefox83meathead, riiiight07:56
archaiosstacy: try going back to breezy...07:56
Axe_meathead: Have you considered the fact that the problem might be with your burner and not with ubuntu07:56
archaiosstacy: but I think it's really time to get a new gfx card07:56
archaiosstacy: even an old geforce 2 only costs $20 or so07:56
Axe_meathead: don't be fag, we are trying to help you here :P07:56
dmsantammeathead your nickname is a good description of you07:56
Axe_a07:56
meatheadAxe_: I have, except that it works fine in windows, with every windows program07:56
Lynoure!language07:56
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:56
meatheaddmsantam: thank you. die07:57
stacyarchaios: it's a laptop... that might be expensive07:57
archaiosmeathead: are you using ide-scsi or directly as IDE?07:57
meatheadIDE07:57
archaiosstacy: true07:57
Green_MageSo my question is: "Why do I get a 'CD-ROM drive not detected' error when I try to install Ubuntu?"07:57
jake1archaios: every article i am reading are ppl complaining over the fact that they cnt get Wine to work on AMD6407:57
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Axe_meathead: is it a DVD burner too, or just a regular cd burner, and what is the model07:57
jake1due to the fact that it requires 32-bit libraries07:57
archaiosstacy: I had an AGP card that used that chipset.. it was unusual, because that chipset was mainly used in laptops07:57
AWOSDevmeathead: do you have dvd+rw-tools?07:57
xasayanew channel #ubuntu-netart07:57
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archaiosjake1: that depends on what build you're using07:57
dmsantamxasaya what is it for07:57
jake1which do not exist on the 64bit build of Dapper07:57
archaiosjake1: I build from source.07:57
jasonhello.?07:57
archaiosjake1: which is guaranteed to work07:57
meatheadI have dvd+rw-tools installed, newest version, it's an "optowrite" I believe, generic brand..07:57
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fooHow can I clear the mailq with postfix?07:58
archaiosmeathead: you'll probably need to play with the kernel07:58
archaiosspecifically07:58
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meatheadburns audio cds fine and reads discs fine, so I know it works07:58
archaioside-scsi (SCSI emulation) enabled and disabled07:58
archaiosuntil you get a working configuration07:58
jasonam i on here or what?07:58
archaiosjason, you are07:58
jasoncool07:58
meatheadarchaios: that's why there's money07:58
AWOSDevmeathead: Try dvdrtools07:58
xasayadmsantam, there isn't a community of ubutun artist , right?07:58
meatheadarchaios: because I don't know how to do that.07:58
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jasonso who's in here?07:59
archaiosmeathead: heh.. nobody said it's easy to diagnose complicated problems on any OS :P07:59
meatheadAWOSDev: is that CLI?07:59
Green_Mage:(07:59
archaiosmeathead: yes07:59
archaiosdvdrtools is CLI07:59
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Madpilotjason, you and 758 other people :)07:59
archaiosit provides cdrecord/dvdrecord/etc.07:59
jasongood lord07:59
cafuego_foo: 'postsuper -d all' will trash whatever is in the mail queue. (no undo)07:59
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meatheadarchaios: that's great. how do I burn an image with dvdrtools?07:59
dfd[Q]  During the installation process the sound card on my pc worked (I heard the gnome start sound), now that ubuntu is installed on my hd it doesn't work. I read no errors, but I can't hear anything (the volume is not muted). What should I check?08:00
archaiosmeathead: cdrecord dev=0,0,0 <path to ISO image file>08:00
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meatheadsince, after installing dvdrtools, typing "dvdrtools" at CLI doesn't do anything08:00
jasonno , imean anyone from ubuntu forums08:00
AWOSDevmeathead: mkisofs?08:00
archaiosAWOSDev: he said image08:00
cafuego_foo: 'postsuper -d all deferred' will trash messages that have been loitering08:00
meatheadI used cdrecord to burn a dvd image?08:00
meatheaderr08:00
archaiosmeathead: you have a pre-existing .iso?08:00
meatheaduse*08:00
Madpilotjason, I imagine lots of ppl here also use the forums...08:00
meatheadyeah08:00
archaiosmeathead: ok08:00
meatheadiso, dvd size08:00
archaiosmeathead: use cdrecord -vvv dev=0,0,0 <path to ISO>08:00
archaiosfrom the CLI08:00
archaiosif that fails08:00
archaiosmeathead: use cdrecord -vvv dev=/dev/hdx <path to ISO>08:00
AWOSDevmeathead: qdvdauthor?08:01
archaioswhere hdx is the name of your DVD-RW device08:01
mkquist_dfd- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544908:01
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AWOSDevmeathead: nevermind08:01
archaiosAWOSDev: I'm trying to get him to use dvdrtools itself! :P08:01
mkquist_dfd-good place to start08:01
stacyarchaios: how do i specify that I want to go back to an older version?08:01
foocafuego_: hm, didn't seem tow ork08:01
dfdmkquist_, I will read, thank you08:01
AWOSDevDoes anybody here know how the *heck* to get PCMCIA modem working on this laptop?08:01
AWOSDevI'm getting upset08:01
mkquist_dfd-g/l08:01
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cafuego_foo: Add a 'sudo'08:01
Green_MageWhy do I get a "CD-ROM drive not detected" error when I try to install Ubuntu?  What can I do to fix this?08:02
AWOSDevI've tried *everything* and nothing and nobody seems to say *anything* about PCMCIA modems08:02
jasonthrow it out a window08:02
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archaiosAWOSDev: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/base/pcmcia-cs08:02
archaioshave you installed that?>08:02
foocafuego_: Doing it as root08:02
foohm08:02
foocafuego_: Any other ways?08:02
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zanpakutohello if I need to set shell variables or modify PATH where do I put it? .bashrc or .bash_profile?08:02
AWOSDevarchaios: Yes I did08:03
archaiosAWOSDev: did you reboot?08:03
meatheadcdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.08:03
meatheadcdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.08:03
meatheadTOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM08:03
meatheadscsidev: '0,0,0'08:03
meatheadscsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 008:03
AWOSDevarchaios: e.g. my WLAN PCMCIA is detected08:03
meatheadcdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver.08:03
meatheadyeah, pastebin08:03
archaiosmeathead: ok08:03
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archaiosmeathead: now try08:03
archaiosmeathead: use cdrecord -vvv dev=/dev/hdx <path to ISO>08:03
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archaiosmeathead: I assume you know the name of your DVD-RW device08:03
archaioshdc or something?08:03
AWOSDevarchaios: No of course I didn't reboot.  Why would I reboot?  I never reboot.08:03
meatheadhdx? i want to burn hdd?08:03
cafuego_'postsuper -d  ALL'08:03
archaiosAWOSDev: I take it you're being sarcastic08:03
archaiosAWOSDev: ps axuwww|grep cardmgr08:04
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archaiosAWOSDev: see if that's running08:04
AWOSDevarchaios: No, I'm not being sarcastic.  I hate rebooting with a passion.08:04
cafuego_foo: " As a safety measure,  the word ALL must be specified in upper case."08:04
archaiosAWOSDev: oh, well, you need to be running cardmgr08:04
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archaiosto detect and initialise PCMCIA devices08:04
AWOSDevcardmgr[32112] : could not adjust resource: IO ports 0x3e0-0x4ff: Function not implemented08:04
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AWOSDevand a bunch of other stuff just like it appear on the screen08:05
meatheadokay, enough about burning cds08:05
AWOSDevwhen I type "sudo cardmgr"08:05
meatheadcause it's not working08:05
archaiosmeathead: did you try what I just said?08:05
cafuego_AWOSDev: Well, don't do that.08:05
meatheadi have two windows xp image files08:05
archaiosspecifying the device as /dev/hdx?08:05
meatheadarchaios: yeah08:05
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archaiosmeathead: what was the output then?08:05
meatheadarchaios: didn't work08:05
archaiosmeathead: output is important...08:05
meatheadarchaios: let me make this easier on you.08:05
cafuego_AWOSDev: Those tools are started via init scripts. (/etc/init.d/pcmciautils)08:05
meatheadarchaios: I need to install windows from an image file08:05
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meatheadI just got a new job and I need to run photoshop and dreamweaver ASAP08:06
archaiosmeathead: I need the output from the 2nd cdrecord command08:06
archaiosnamely the error messages08:06
AWOSDevcafuego_ cardmgr is now running08:06
archaiosAWOSDev, ok08:06
archaiosit should automatically detect your PCMCIA devices08:06
AWOSDevcafuegp_ thanks!08:06
dfdmkquist_, I solved the problem, thanks08:06
archaiosAWOSDev, cardmgr can normally be run by itself, but I gather you didn't have the PCMCIA modules loaded08:06
AWOSDev[4639051.839000]  pcmcia: Detected deprecated PCMCIA ioctl usage.08:06
AWOSDev[4639051.839000]  pcmcia: This interface will soon be removed from the kernel; please expect breakage unless you upgrade to new tools.08:06
dfdmkquist_, I had 2 sound cards.. ubuntu did choose the one I don't like as the default one ;-)08:06
archaiosAWOSDev, that's fine08:06
AWOSDevOh okay08:07
archaiosAWOSDev, it just means that your kernel is newer than your pcmcia-cs package08:07
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AWOSDevThat's the latest message in dmesg08:07
archaiosAWOSDev, your devices should be detected if they're supported...08:07
archaiosAWOSDev, if not08:07
AWOSDevarchaios: Don't say it08:07
archaioswhat PCMCIA device do you want?08:07
archaioserr08:07
archaiosare you using, rather08:07
AWOSDevarchaios: A very old modem08:07
archaiosAWOSDev: brand? model?08:07
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AWOSDevarchaios: Because during the hurricanes with no electricity I have no cable.08:08
AWOSDevarchaios: I have no clue, not even Windows knows08:08
jake1WOAH............ that was crazy08:08
AWOSDevarchaios: Just a simple, ordinary, modem08:08
archaiosAWOSDev, shouldn't it be marked on the card?08:08
stacyarchaios: how do i specify that I want to go back to an older version?  Do I need to just edit the repository file?08:08
jake1i was jst downloading at 14000kbps08:08
meatheadcdrecord: Unspecified command not implemented for this drive.08:08
meatheadcdrecord: Data will not fit on any disk.08:08
meatheadcdrecord: Cannot write more than remaining DVD capacity.08:08
jburdWhere is the default httpd.conf file for Apache 2 on Ubuntu?08:08
AWOSDevarchaios: All it says is "Sky Link Express Data/Fax Modem"08:08
archaiosmeathead: seems that your drive is very non-standard08:08
jake1that's 14MBPS08:08
meatheadwhich is bullshit by the way, cause I've burned the iso on a dvd in windows ten times.08:08
jburd /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty...08:08
archaiosAWOSDev: it's supported08:08
archaiosAWOSDev: you just need to load the module08:08
archaiosmeathead: it's not bullshit, your drive really is non-standard08:08
AWOSDevsudo modprobe ...08:09
infidelbluefox83: thank you for your help08:09
archaiosnormal devices will burn using normal ATAPI commands08:09
Green_Mage1.4 MBPS08:09
AWOSDevpcmcia?08:09
archaiosAWOSDev: wait08:09
archaiosfinding module name08:09
meatheadI've had this drive for over a year and a half, and not ONCE have I had a single problem with it..08:09
archaiosmeathead: on windows08:09
meatheadtil I switched to ubuntu08:09
Green_Magehave to divide by 808:09
archaiosmeathead: Linux uses standard interfaces for burning08:09
bluefox83infidel, sure thing...no idea how i helped..but no prob :)08:09
meatheadI noticed08:09
archaiosmeathead: in case you didn't realise08:09
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archaiosmeathead: most hardware manufacturers don't provide specs for Linux driver development08:09
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archaiosmeathead: if your drive is non-standard, it will most likely not be supported08:10
meatheadLinux uses standard interfaces for everything. my extremely popular mouse only get's half the buttons working... after an hour of tweaking08:10
AWOSDevmeathead: Windows does very screwy things to drives -- Linux only supports standards08:10
archaiosmeathead: that's not Linux's fault08:10
archaiosthat's the hardware manufacturer, meathead08:10
archaiosthey're the ones who aren't writing capable Linux drivers08:10
archaiosor supplying specifications08:10
archaiosdon't assign blame to the OS -_-08:10
infidelbluefox83: it was operator head space but thanks for your patience08:10
meatheadcan't imagine why.08:10
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archaiosAWOSDev: sudo modprobe pcnet_cs08:10
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Axe_Because some companies suck?08:10
Axe_Generic ones especially08:11
AWOSDevmeathead: Because they have contracts with Microsoft?08:11
mkquist_so whats to gain by not supplying specs?08:11
mkquist_like canon?08:11
bluefox83infidel, no problem08:11
Teh_wrk1n|Dogwhat is the minimum requirements to run ubuntu?08:11
mkquist_oh i saw that..lol08:11
Green_MageIt prevents corporate espionage, maybe08:11
archaiosmeathead: Microsoft has a serious monopoly on HW manufacturers... they get paid to develop devices that only run on Windows08:11
mkquist_M$08:11
archaiosthere's all sorts of anti-competitive measures08:11
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archaiosGreen_Mage: not really08:11
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AWOSDevTeh_wrk1n|Dog: Well08:11
archaiosGreen_Mage: it's more due to a lack of industry expertise in writing Linux drivers, firstly, and secondly, contracts with Microsoft and such08:11
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AWOSDevTeh_wrk1n|Dog: bare minimum, Pentium/16608:12
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archaiosGreen_Mage: the Windows logo program for hardware devices is almost "lock-in", it has an exclusivity requirement08:12
Green_MageThen it's probably only a matter of time before more people start releasing linux drivers08:12
AWOSDevTeh_wrk1n|Dog: but for usability, prolly a P2/300 with ~128+MB RAM would work08:12
archaioswell08:12
archaiosall my computers have worked out of the box with Linux08:12
archaiosbecause I buy generic hardware :P08:12
wolfmanzHow do i move e-mail and setting from one thunderbird client to another?08:12
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mkquist_think someone was trying to load onto a p2 300 last nite and no go for them08:12
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Green_MageHow can you buy something like a generic video card or a generic CPU?08:13
mkquist_think he was short on the ram part tho08:13
Green_MageThere's only two brands for each of those08:13
AWOSDevWvDial: cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory08:13
archaiosGreen_Mage: not CPU/gfx cards08:13
Teh_wrk1n|DogGreen_Mage: Ok just needed the memory requirements actually thanks08:13
archaiosGreen_Mage: but CPUs are guaranteed to be compatible08:13
archaiosGreen_Mage: the instruction set, etc. is completely standardised08:13
AWOSDevGreen_Mage: If the CPU isn't compatible I'd *really* LOVE to hear about it :P08:13
archaiosGreen_Mage: gfx cards are proprietary, but there is a strong incentive to develop drivers for Linux08:13
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archaioswhich is why nvidia and ATI provide Linux drivers08:13
Sarra_While Using firefox for Ubuntu x64, it keeps saying "OMG, you need a PLUGIN that doesn't exist! Click here to be told that it doesn't exist yet!" How do I disable that? Flash doesn't exist fro x64 yet, and that darn message is wasting screen space08:13
Teh_wrk1n|DogGreen_Mage: My friend tried to install it on a 133mhz wif 64mb ram08:13
Teh_wrk1n|Dog:/08:14
mkquist_lol thats funny tho08:14
archaiosTeh_wrk1n|Dog, 133mhz with 64MB RAM?08:14
AWOSDevTeh_wrk1n|Dog: Try something lighter08:14
archaiosthat's unusual08:14
archaiosmost 133mhz boxes didn't have over 16MB RAM08:14
AWOSDevTeh_wrk1n|Dog: like Red Hat 5 or something08:14
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Teh_wrk1n|Dogi said he should should try gentoo08:14
archaiosat the time 133mhz boxes were in vogue08:14
meatheadhmm, so microsoft actuallys pays people to write drivers for their OS so that people don't have to write their own drivers when they get a peice of hardware! obscene08:14
Teh_wrk1n|Dog:P08:14
archaios16MB and 32MB were the norms08:14
birdfishOkay, now that I have ip masquerading working somewhat, I have another problem.  I can get connected to the internet from my LAN clients, but cannot connect to irc servers from them.08:14
Teh_wrk1n|Dogit scared the shi outta him08:14
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AWOSDevarchaios: I'm personally insulted -- I love my 133MHz box and I can get 128MB into it!08:14
Green_MageWhat about motherboards and northbridges, do those ever cause problems with linux?08:14
archaiosmeathead, Microsoft provides monetary incentives for writing drivers for Windows08:14
birdfishIs there something else that I need to install in order to get this functionality?08:14
archaiosmeathead, for Linux, there is no such program08:14
Green_Mage*above to archaios08:15
archaiosmeathead, given that < 2% of the market uses Linux08:15
birdfishOr is iptables blocking them perhaps?08:15
archaiosmanufacturers have no incentive to write Linux drivers, really08:15
archaiosGreen_Mage: not particularly08:15
archaiosGreen_Mage: some southbridge on-board devices aren't supported, though08:15
birdfishI can't figure out why I can surf the net and download various applications, but cannot get connect to an irc server08:15
archaiosGreen_Mage: very rarely a mainboard will not operate at all with Linux08:15
AWOSDevbirdfish: Sounds like iptables problem08:15
Green_Magearchaios: like what?08:15
zanpakutobirdfish, are you manually handcrafting your iptables?08:15
ezuHi, am new to linux (from windows) and am trying to understand few thing. I installed java but it asked me to remove xpti.dat from firefox folder. how do I get in as administrator to delete this file?08:15
AWOSDevbirdfish: I recommend fwbuilder08:15
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Khamaelare there any gamedesigners or programmers here?08:15
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zanpakutobirdfish, i mean iptable rules08:16
birdfishActually, all I really did was install and start dnsmasq and ipmasq08:16
AWOSDevKhamael: I'm both08:16
mkquist_ezu-sudo in terminal08:16
archaiosGreen_Mage: like temperature/fan speed monitors (too many chipsets to name), like on-board sound, LAN (though these are usually supported these days -- my nforce3 mainboard wasn't until recently), etc.08:16
KhamaelAWOSDev: I`ve got an idea for a game08:16
archaiosKhamael: I'm an experienced programmer08:16
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AWOSDevKhamael: Not that good at game programming yet :)08:16
archaiosbut not a game developer08:16
archaiossorry08:16
ezumkquist: sudo???08:16
archaios14 years in C and assembly experience08:16
AWOSDevKhamael: I can write a whole OS but can't even get a game menu screen to work :P08:16
mkquist_ezu-use the command sudo (for root control) and rm (files)08:16
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Green_Magearchaios: What about CD and DVD drives?08:17
mkquist_ezu-have u looked in the ubuntu forums?08:17
birdfishI also edited /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to enable forwarding08:17
archaiosGreen_Mage: almost all are standard ATAPI devices08:17
mkquist_ezu-lotsa good stuff there08:17
archaiosAWOSDev: OS development is a moot point... writing a non-standard OS is absurd these days08:17
KhamaelAWOSDev and archaios I was thinking about OpenJones. A free clone of "Jones in the fast lane"08:17
AWOSDevezu: Yes, sudo.  Super User DO.  e.g. instead of Administrator, on Linux it's called root (or Super User)08:17
Madpilotezu, installing java shouldn't require tweaking anything else08:17
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brendonjtKia Ora all  back08:17
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archaiosAWOSDev: when you can use an out of the box kernel08:17
birdfishzanpakuto or AWOSDev: do either of you know of a good tutorial that I could read through in order to get myself fixed up?08:17
archaioslike Mach, or Linux or any of the BSD derivatives08:17
Madpilotubotu, tell ezu about java08:17
archaiosAWOSDev: admittedly writing an OS teaches you a lot about the architecture08:17
archaiosbut ultimately08:17
Green_Magearchaios: I can't figure it out then; I can't get Ubuntu to install since it keeps telling me it can't detect the CD-ROM drive08:17
archaiosit's fairly useless08:17
zanpakutobirdfish, you might like to try firehol. enable universe at /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firehol08:18
archaiosGreen_Mage: I've never had such a problem08:18
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birdfishwhat is firehol?08:18
archaiosAWOSDev: you're better off kernel hacking on Linux or somesuch08:18
Green_Magearchaios: Who should I ask for help then?08:18
AWOSDevbirdfish: I still recommend firewall builder (fwbuilder)...it's great and my network is working great08:18
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brendonjtMadpilot:  umm what is ubotu  just out of interest08:18
zanpakutobirdfish, http://firehol.sourceforge.net/08:18
AWOSDevarchaios: Yeah I know but I love OS programming, it's so interesting to learn about what's "inside the box" :)08:18
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Madpilotbrendonjt, a bot, and by far the most useful being on this channel ;)08:18
fallingdutch!initramfs08:18
AWOSDevarchaios: I'm seriously considering helping the WINE project, actually08:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:19
Madpilotubotu, tell brendonjt about yourself08:19
archaiosAWOSDev: well, I was interested in OS programming when I was first learning asm08:19
zanpakutobirdfish, there is a very short and intuitive tutorial there.08:19
ezuokay I'll play with it. I got ubotu. thanks,08:19
archaiosAWOSDev: but after coding a relatively capable console protected-mode OS08:19
AWOSDev!ubotu08:19
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:19
archaiosI lost interest, to be honest08:19
brendonjtMadpilot:  thanks  fo that08:19
archaiosAWOSDev: I do professional kernel development for Linux and Windows, though08:19
AWOSDevarchaios: I'm getting there.  Did you open-source your OS?08:19
fallingdutchhow do the initramfs-tools work or where is a documentation of how it works?08:19
AWOSDevarchaios: You developed the Windows kernel?08:19
birdfishI'll check it out and be back if I have any other questions =)08:20
archaiosI said for08:20
birdfishThanks guys!08:20
archaioskernel development08:20
archaiosdevice drivers08:20
archaioskernel-mode security software08:20
archaiosall kinds of stuff08:20
AWOSDevarchaios: Oh, I thought you were once employed by the Evil Empire; glad you weren't :P08:20
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archaiosAWOSDev: I've access to the Windows kernel source08:20
fetaleI'm trying to mount mount some of my samba shares but I've been getting errors left and right08:21
AWOSDevI still don't have a PCMCIA Linux modem08:21
archaiosas part of the shared source program08:21
archaiosbut I don't work for them08:21
AWOSDevarchaios: WOW -- that would be SO cool to see inside -- and yet, so empty :)08:21
archaiosAWOSDev, pcnet_cs didn't help?08:21
archaiosit says it supports08:21
archaiosArk Sky Link Express PA260008:21
AWOSDevarchaios: No, pcnet_cs modprobe'd but it didn08:21
archaiosand08:21
AWOSDev't do anything else08:21
archaiosSky Link Express08:21
AWOSDevNo messages, no dmesg, no "Hey you have a modem!", no /dev/modem softlink created, nothing08:21
brendonjtawosdev:  hmm i have thinking about that  umm not sure where to go now  with that one08:22
AWOSDevbrendonjt: You mean about my modem?08:22
archaiosAWOSDev: I could help you if you had a Lucent PCMCIA winmodem08:22
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brendonjtawosdev:  yip08:22
archaiosAWOSDev: there's support for the sky link express ethernet08:22
AWOSDevarchaios: just pretend it *is* a Lucent :)08:22
archaiosbut not for the modem08:22
AWOSDevNo modem?08:22
archaiosAWOSDev: I guess you could write your own driver :P08:22
AWOSDev*NO MODEM?*08:22
AWOSDevYOU MEAN that I'm fudged come hurricane time?08:23
AWOSDevOoh I'm very upset08:23
AWOSDevvery upset indeed08:23
AWOSDevI NEED my Internet during the power outage -- and the only way is with a modem08:23
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AWOSDevarchaios: I know 0 and nada about the Linux kernel, let alone device drivers08:24
AWOSDevcan I use NDISwrapper for modems too?  I have a Win95 driver for it...08:24
ezuNew user question again: When I am switching b/n user's the program I was running sleeps and I can't use it. What I had to do was to go to admin and kill it and restart again. What's the proper way?08:24
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Green_Magearchaios: It appears my motherboard is incompatible with the linux install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1417783 :(08:24
yaccAWOSDev: I don't thing that modems have NDIS drivers on Windows?08:25
archaiosAWOSDev: modems don't use NDIS08:25
archaiosAWOSDev: they use a serial-type API08:25
archaioswhich is not supported on Linux, sadly08:25
AWOSDevWell poo.08:25
hamdani installed win32 codecs but i cant play movies08:25
AWOSDevSo I'm sunk?08:25
AWOSDev100% sunk?08:25
archaiosGreen_Mage: well, that sucks08:25
archaiosGreen_Mage: I only use AMD mainboards08:25
archaiosAMD processors are better, anyway08:26
AWOSDevBecause I can't get Windows back on here and Linux doesn't support modems?08:26
archaiosand more compatible! :P08:26
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AWOSDevarchaios: AMD sucks, every single computer I've had with AMD has died08:26
archaiosAWOSDev: yeah08:26
archaiosAWOSDev: basically08:26
archaiosAWOSDev: err08:26
archaiosno08:26
treitteris there a new Times font included in Edgy?08:26
archaiosAMD processors were bad in the old days of the Duron08:26
archaiosand before08:26
archaiosbut since then08:26
AWOSDevarchaios: I'm not sunk?08:26
hamdani installed win32 codecs but i cant play movies08:26
archaiosthey've advanced to produce a significantly better processor than Intel08:26
archaiosAWOSDev: no, AMD is now better than Intel08:26
archaiosmy old Duron 900 MHz ran extremely hot08:26
AWOSDevarchaios: Yeah I have all K6's08:26
archaios120 degrees Celsius in summer08:27
brendonjthamdan: have you installed the video codecs08:27
hamdanyes08:27
AWOSDevarchaios: Never got another AMD after those two K6s died08:27
Green_MageThe new intel chips are top of the line though08:27
archaiosAWOSDev: Athlons and AMD64 processors are very capable, and much higher performance than Intel at an equivalent clock rate08:27
AWOSDevhamdan: Do you have xine?08:27
Green_MageThe core 2 duo stops on anything AMD has out now08:27
archaiosAWOSDev: Durons and before were the bad old days08:27
Green_Mage*stomps08:27
ezuWhy do programs disapear when I switch user's ??08:27
archaiosGreen_Mage: far from it08:27
hamdanawisdev yes08:27
AWOSDevarchaios: I just need to get the stupid modem working08:27
JobberwackyIntels are probably still not as hot as AMDs though08:27
archaiosGreen_Mage: for a start, dual core processors proffer minimal advantage for most applications08:27
AWOSDevarchaios: Is there *ANYTHING* ELSE I can do?08:27
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archaiosGreen_Mage: since they require apps to be designed with SMP in mind08:28
archaiossecond,08:28
JobberwackyAWOSDev, you could get another modem08:28
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AWOSDevhamdan: Is there an error?08:28
archaiosIntel focusses on clock rate in its designs08:28
Green_MageIt's not the dual core nature that I brag about, it's the raw speed of the chip08:28
archaioscompromising cycle efficiency08:28
AWOSDevJobberwacky: With a hurricane 18 hours away?08:28
archaiosGreen_Mage: that's absolute crap08:28
Green_MageIntel changed its design with the core 2 duo08:28
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eric__hello all08:28
archaiosGreen_Mage: Intels have much higher clock rates08:28
archaiosyes, including the core 2 duo08:28
Green_MageThey emphasize feature sets over clock rates08:28
archaiosbut their cycle efficiency is much lower, Green_Mage08:28
archaiosGreen_Mage, yes, including your "new" processor08:28
Green_MageThen how are they beating out higher clocked AMD chips?08:29
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AWOSDevI suppose I could look and see if Office Depot is open tomorrow -- what kind of modem is compatible with Linux?  Would it say on the box?08:29
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archaiosGreen_Mage, they're only "beating them" in SMP-capable apps08:29
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AWOSDevGreen_Mage -- run a benchmark and then tell us who's better :)08:29
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archaiosGreen_Mage, most apps, believe it or not08:29
hamdanawosdev totem could not play "     "  you dont have a decoder installed to handle ...08:29
JobberwackyAWOSDev, if you're talking about dialup, an external serial modem08:29
archaioslack SMP capability08:29
archaiosAWOSDev: benchmarks aren't good tests08:29
Green_MageI'm talking about real world preformance here08:29
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Green_MageGames and Programs08:29
archaiosAWOSDev: for example, since it's a dual core processor, the "added performance" relies on SMP08:30
AWOSDevJobberwacky: I have a Parallel Port US Robotics modem, would that work?08:30
MitrovarrDoes anyone know a fast way to restore the default top/bottom menu bars?08:30
archaiosGreen_Mage: that's absolute rubbish08:30
Green_MageThe core 2 duo gets higher FPS ratings in all major PC Games out on the market08:30
archaiosGreen_Mage: AMD performance at equivalent clock rates is almost 150% faster08:30
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JobberwackyAWOSDev, I'm not sure but you could try it08:30
brendonjtawosdev:  yip08:30
archaiosGreen_Mage: FPS has nothing to do with the processor08:30
archaiosand most to do with the graphics coprocessor on the damn graphics card08:30
hamdanAWOSDev totem could not play "     "  you dont have a decoder installed to handle ...08:30
AWOSDevI just don't have the parallel cords, I lost them in one of my moves :(08:30
brendonjtawosdev:  i had one of them  and it worked straight out of the box08:30
archaiosGreen_Mage: it's absurd to claim that your processor is responsible for the higher FPS08:30
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archaiosI guarantee that it is nbot08:30
Green_MageWhen the only difference between the two setups is the motherboard and processor, then the CPU has all the difference08:30
AWOSDevI guess *those* wouldn't be too expensive08:30
archaios-b08:30
archaiosGreen_Mage, not at all08:31
archaiosGreen_Mage, the motherboard has the primary influence in that case08:31
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brendonjtawosdev:  bugga ae08:31
Nitrobass24anyone know how to network windows with a linux server?08:31
AWOSDevbrendonjt: bugga ae?  what's a bugga ae?08:31
hamdanhow i can reinstall the kernal ?08:31
AWOSDevNitrobass24: Samba08:31
crparrWhat is the best way to setup postfix with spamassassin and clamav?08:31
Green_MageYou're telling me that a motherboard would have more of a difference than the CPU, how is that possible?08:31
Nitrobass24yea i am using that08:31
AWOSDevhamdan, you don't need to08:31
archaiosGreen_Mage, in terms of CPU speed and efficiency, AMD has won over Intel for years... and still is.08:31
Green_MageMaybe if you used a cheap mobo08:31
archaiosGreen_Mage, how?08:31
Mitrovarrarchaios:  Are you trying to say that you could take an identical setup with identical motherboards, compare the lowest processor it can handle to the best one, and get the same FPS?  That's insane.08:31
AWOSDevNitrobass24 have you consulted the Wiki?08:31
archaiosGreen_Mage, because the f'ing bus speed is the primary determinant08:32
Nitrobass24when i browse in windows and try to connect to my linux server it ask me for a username and password08:32
archaiosMitrovarr: no08:32
archaiosMitrovarr: but I'm saying08:32
Green_MageIf you use a Intel and an AMD mobo that are relatively similar, then how can it matter?08:32
Nitrobass24no08:32
archaioswhen it comes to high end processors08:32
hamdanAWOSDev there are errors in kernel08:32
AWOSDevNitrobass2408:32
loopyzorti've read a few threads that firestarter (firewall) is just an interface to iptables/default firewalling08:32
loopyzortis that true?08:32
archaiosthe graphics coprocessor has the primary influence08:32
AWOSDev!wiki > Nitrobass2408:32
Green_MageThe new AMD boards have a FSB that's just as fast, or faster than the intel boards08:32
archaiosGreen_Mage: there is a very major confounding factor08:32
AWOSDevhamdan -- what makes you say that?08:32
archaiosGreen_Mage: the northbridge.08:32
archaiosGreen_Mage: and I'm sorry, all the benchmarks right now contradict your claim08:32
Green_MageWhat benchmarks are you using?08:32
eric__can someone help me out with setting up synaptic package manager?08:32
archaiosGreen_Mage, I'm using CPU instruction set benchmarks08:33
AWOSDevDoes Office Depot or something sell parallel cables like I would need?08:33
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archaiosGreen_Mage, that actually test processor speed and cycle efficiency08:33
AWOSDevsorry dumb question nevermind my last08:33
archaiosand right now08:33
hamdanAWOSDev because i see errors in kernal in boot08:33
archaiosIntel is only close to AMD08:33
Mitrovarrarchaios:  That is partly but not entirely right.  What matters is the constraining factor; generally CPU requirements for a given game don't vary much by detail settings, but graphics card requirements vary a ton.  So, with an insufficient CPU, it will be slow all the time.  An insufficient graphics card will be slow in good detail settings but fast in low ones.08:33
Green_Magearchaios: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/02/thg_tuning_test/08:33
AWOSDeveric__ It should already be installed, under System->Tools->Synaptic or something like that08:33
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archaiosMitrovarr: erm. we're talking about similar speeds08:33
AWOSDevhamdan, what errors?08:33
archaiosMitrovarr: the difference between processors is minimal08:33
Green_Magearchaios: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/core2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/08:33
archaiosGreen_Mage: it's also spurious to compare them08:34
hamdani dont know :)08:34
archaiosGreen_Mage: because the Athlon 64 isn't dual-core08:34
Mitrovarrarchaios:  Ah, you were making some rather blanket statements that concealed that factor.08:34
eric__AWOSDev - I thought so too.. but it won't load even when i gave it my root pw08:34
Jobberwackybut again don't intels run cooler?08:34
Green_MageSo? It's all AMD has on the market right now08:34
AWOSDevhamdan, I'm gonna need the errors, or else I can't help you further08:34
hamdanAWOSDev i dont know08:34
archaiosGreen_Mage: compare Intel's single-core offering to AMD processors08:34
archaiosGreen_Mage: and I'm sorry08:34
archaiosIntel is utterly useless08:34
archaiosGreen_Mage: as soon as AMD's newest line of processors is released08:34
AWOSDevI still like Intel better but I guess I should give AMD a shot on my next major computer purchase, yes?08:34
Green_MageThat's not planned for another 6 months or more08:34
archaiosIntel will completely lose the perceived advantage08:34
AWOSDev^ to archaios up there08:34
Green_MageAnd who knows what intel will have out by then08:35
archaiosGreen_Mage, put it this way08:35
archaiosAMD are the ones who are calling the shots now08:35
MitrovarrarchaiosA:  What on Earth are you talking about?  Core 2 Duo absolutely walks all over AMD's best offerings.  The X2 gets DESTROYED.  It's not even close.08:35
archaiosIntel is not the market leader anymore08:35
AWOSDevarchaios: Should I give AMD a shot on my next major computer purchase?08:35
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Green_MageIntel still controls over 70% of the market share08:35
archaiosMitrovarr: "destroyed"? absolute rubbish08:35
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Green_MageHow could you say it's not the leader?08:35
archaiosGreen_Mage: market control, perhaps08:35
Green_MageThat's absurd08:35
archaiosbut in terms of technical prowess08:35
AWOSDevarchaios: And if it doesn't work can I blame you?  :)08:35
archaiosAMD is the market leader08:35
brendonjtawosdev:  you  cant find ya cable08:35
eric__AWOSDev --- I thought so too.. but it won't load even when i gave it my root pw08:35
Mitrovarrarchaios:  Seriously, check the benchmarks.  The Core 2 Duo beats the X2 all across the board often by 20% or more.08:35
AWOSDevbrendonjt: Yeah no fun is it08:36
archaiosGreen_Mage: there are several very significant developments to back my claim08:36
AWOSDeveric__ No errors?08:36
hamdanany one know about speedstream 4060 ??08:36
archaiosMitrovarr: the apps in question are compiled with Intel-specific optimisations08:36
archaiosMitrovarr: so, it's spurious08:36
Green_MageHave you actually researched this at all, archaios?08:36
AWOSDeveric__ I would say on that note just use command-line-based aptitude08:36
archaiosGreen_Mage: I'm sorry08:36
archaiosGreen_Mage: you are foolish08:36
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brendonjtawosdev:  pitty u can't use a genric driver08:36
archaiosGreen_Mage: AMD set the 64-bit standard08:36
Green_MageIt's pretty much a well accepted fact that core 2 is a better chip08:36
archaiosthey designed the x86-64 instruction set08:36
Green_MageThat's true, but what does that matter?08:36
AWOSDeveric__ aptitude is basically Synaptic but on the command line08:36
archaiosGreen_Mage, it matters because they turned the tide08:36
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archaiosand they're now setting the standards08:36
Mitrovarrarchaios:  Every single benchmark and game is optimized for Intel?  That would make it the smarter choice anyway.08:36
Green_MageWhat tide?08:36
archaiosMitrovarr, most of them are08:36
Green_MageWho cares about who's setting the standards?08:37
archaiosthe Microsoft compilers are optimised for Intel08:37
Green_MageI only care about who has the better product08:37
archaiosif you do tests on Linux, Mitrovarr08:37
Green_MageScrew brand loyalty08:37
AWOSDevMitrovarr - the only thing I see that Intel is innovating is Centrino08:37
archaiosyou'll find the opposite to be the case08:37
Green_MageI want who ever treats me best08:37
damnhilarchaios: How did you know?08:37
archaiosdamnhil, how did I know what?08:37
AWOSDevI guess I'll go dig up my old parallel modem08:37
Jobberwackyso a large number of optimized games for amd are on the horizon?08:38
archaiosMitrovarr, essentially the entire Windows environment is optimised for Intel processors due to industry partnership with Intel and the MS compiler development group08:38
Mitrovarrarchaios:  Well, I can't exactly do tests since I haven't got the stuff, but I'll keep that in mind and see if I see anything.  I know the Core 2 Duo is considered innovative across the board though, it's got lower power usage too, and it uses a smaller process.08:38
Green_Magearchaios: So you're telling us that Intel has a conspiracy with Microsoft to knock AMD out of the market?08:38
Green_MageAND with the entire PC hardware review market, to boot08:38
archaiosGreen_Mage, conspiracy, no08:38
archaiosGreen_Mage, Intel has a partnership agreement with Microsoft08:38
hamdanhow i can install deb pkg  ?08:38
Mitrovarrarchaios:  Hmm.... I don't know about that, that would give AMD a commanding lead on Linux and I haven't heard about that.08:38
archaiosas virtually everyone knows08:38
archaiosMitrovarr: ...Windows leads the market in the case of hardware08:39
archaiosMitrovarr: consumer buying is influenced almost exclusively by the agitprop developed on Windows08:39
damnhilarchaios: how did you know the Microsoft compiler is optimized for Intel x86?08:39
AWOSDevAh bug -- I can't find the stupid thing08:39
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archaiosdamnhil, please... this is a well known fact! Intel works closely with the MS compiler development group, this association has been around for decades08:40
archaiosdamnhil, there's references to it everywhere08:40
damnhilarchaios: Windows leads the market of hardware? what does it mean?08:40
Mitrovarrarchaios:  I know that but I was under the impression that Linux benchmarks didn't favor AMD (any more or less than Windows ones, anyway)08:40
hamdanhow i can install deb pkg  by terminal ?08:40
JobberwackyI haven't had terrible experiences with either Intel or AMD08:40
AWOSDevhamdan -- dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb08:40
archaiosthere was an article on it in a backissue of DDJ08:40
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MitrovarrAnyways, does anyone know how to restore the upper and lower menu bars if they crash out or otherwise are lost?08:40
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hamdanAWOSDev thanks08:40
damnhilhamdan: dpkg -i Package_Name.deb08:40
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eric__AWOSDev --- thanks I'll look into apt08:41
MitrovarrI know how to recreate them from scratch, but it's annoying.  Is there some simple way to restore to defaults?08:41
archaiosMitrovarr: Linux benchmarks more impartial, insofar as if it is compiled with AMD-specific optimisations, Intel processors also perform poorly08:41
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AWOSDevhamdan no provlem08:41
AWOSDeveric__ no problem08:41
archaiosMitrovarr: basically, the compiler has a very strong influence on benchmarks08:41
RivercityOperatohi, what linux kernel version does Dapper Drake use?08:41
AWOSDev2.6.15-23-38608:41
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archaiosMitrovarr: the number of ways to bias a benchmark is insane08:41
AWOSDevRivercityOperato it uses 2.6.15-23-38608:41
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archaiosMitrovarr: according to Microsoft, IIS is more efficient than Apache08:42
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archaiosMitrovarr: in actual testing, this is highly dependent on the Linux configuration08:42
AWOSDevRivercityOperato -- to be more specific - I'm running Linux Lappy 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux08:42
Mitrovarrarchaios:  Well, those benchmarks are in some cases real-world configurations08:42
chris_anyone familiar with the install process for xgl?08:42
archaiosMitrovarr: real-world or not, they're still biased08:42
damnhilchris_: what';s xgl?08:43
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AWOSDevchris_ -- um, sudo apt-get install xgl?  I don't know08:43
Mitrovarrarchaios:  Like a game benchmark.  It's the game running in a real-world (or at least emulated) situation.  If Intel beats AMD there, then it'll beat it in a real game, which is good enough for users.08:43
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archaiosin the infamous words of Benjamin Disraeli08:43
archaiosthere are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics08:43
chris_AWOSDev: lol way more complex08:43
RivercityOperatowith that kernel version, is Ubuntu subject to the vulnerability in the linux kernel found the 23rd of this month?08:43
Guest666why apt-get install rar can't find rar package ?08:43
Mitrovarrarchaios: yeah, well, unless you have another way of judging processors besides Benchmarks, Getting a Doctorate in Computer Engineering, and Listening to You, I'd like to hear it.08:44
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archaiosMitrovarr: good enough for users? perhaps, but it's still not representative of the processor's true performance when apps are optimised for it08:44
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Hellevatercan someone tell me the default installation directory for gaim?08:44
archaiosMitrovarr: processor-specific optimisation heavily influences the results08:44
archaiosMitrovarr: mainstream benchmarks simply cannot be trusted, because they are far too simplistic08:44
Mitrovarrarchaios:  So what is?  No one but a computer engineer could judge a processor on it's technical merits, so what is anyone supposed to use but benchmarks?08:44
archaiosMitrovarr: put it this way08:45
archaiosthe Pentium III was faster than the Pentium IV in most benchmarks initially08:45
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Jobberwackythey should use their perception maybe?08:45
archaiosbecause the floating-point support required specific optimisations to run at capacity08:45
RivercityOperatoAWOSDev, have you seen this? http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-374508:45
Guest666What repostory have rar package ?08:45
Healotmultiverse for unrar08:46
archaiosIntel works closely with the MS compiler development group -- AMD does not -- meaning that any optimisations to the industry standard compilers are aimed at Intel processors!08:46
MitrovarrJobberwacky:  You'd have a hard time finding something less accurate than analysis via simple perception08:46
archaiosthis is an absurd situation08:46
Healotuniverse for unrar-free08:46
archaiosit means that benchmarking non-Intel processors against Windows is completely and utterly biased08:46
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JobberwackyMitrovarr, true, but if we speak of users, isn't that all that matters?08:46
MZMhow to check wich src pkg versions I can build?08:46
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damned[office] can anybody tell which packet|program allows flashplugin to play sound?08:47
archaiosMitrovarr: do you not see my point? benchmarks are extremely subjective08:47
hamdanwhere i can but win32 codecs fortotem08:47
JobberwackyThey're both darned fast, and the AMD/Intel rivalry gives better products08:47
hamdanfot totem08:47
MitrovarrJobberwacky:  well, I can't 'percieve' differences until I own both processors, so it's useless in that regard anyway.  And no, not really, since subtle differences are hard to see but those differences might matter a lot up the road.08:47
hamdanfor totem08:47
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RivercityOperatoI got them recently using automatix, hamdan08:47
Mitrovarrarchaios:  I understand, but you didn't propose an alternative.08:47
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AWOSDevRivercityOperato -- no I hadn't and yes Dapper is vulnerable08:47
JobberwackyMitrovarr, there's no way to prove which is better if you're going to consider that many layers08:48
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treitterhas anyone else run into non-antialiased fonts in Edgy?08:48
treitterit looks like Times New Roman on Windows, and it's driving me crazy08:48
archaiosMitrovarr: indeed I have not, but it's pure propaganda to claim that Intel is faster than AMD or vice-versa without using benchmarks each optimised for their host system's processors08:48
archaiosand even in that case08:48
MitrovarrJobberwacky:  I know, which is why I favor real-world tests.  If I see a test that shows that X proccy is better than Y proccy at playing Unreal Tournament and I'm buying it to play UT, then I know X is probably better.  Good enough.08:48
archaiosthey're not comparable08:48
Madpilottreitter, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy issues, please08:48
JobberwackyWhat will all the subtle differences mean to the user anyways? a split second difference in the actions stopping?08:49
archaiosyou simply cannot feasibly compare the performance of two processors08:49
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treitterMadpilot: thanks!08:49
archaiosbecause subtle differences can heavily impact results on different apps08:49
Jobberwackyyeah, that's true, so it's a good idea to just get what you think will run for what you use08:49
archaiosi.e. AMD processors are much faster at floating-point math, and thus, for scientific applications, are significantly better08:49
archaioswhile Intel processors are faster at string processing08:49
Healotaren't AMD CPU contains Intel CPU instructions?08:49
MitrovarrJobberwacky:  Well, the differences in performance between the new intels and AMDs is not subtle.  The intels beat the AMDs (if you trust the benchmarks) by something like 5%-50%.  If you get the 50%, it matters.08:49
archaiosthere's all sorts of so-called "minor" differences08:49
archaiosHealot, yes08:49
archaiosHealot, but that isn't the point08:49
AWOSDevWould this work with Linux?08:49
Healotlike sse/sse2/sse308:49
AWOSDevhttp://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=450232&N=200135&An=browse08:49
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archaiosHealot, the CPU microcode used to implement the instruction set varies considerably08:50
archaiosas a result08:50
archaiosthe performance is highly variable08:50
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JobberwackyI'd have to see it to believe it, I've seen a lot of bollocks benchmarks by people who don't know what they were talking about08:50
archaiosand extremely dependent on the choice of compiler, OS, and benchmark08:50
Healotwell, i know AMD didn't implement all the Intel microcode08:50
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archaios[16:49.51]  <Mitrovarr> Jobberwacky:  Well, the differences in performance between the new intels and AMDs is not subtle.  The intels beat the AMDs (if you trust the benchmarks) by something like 5%-50%.  If you get the 50%, it matters. < that's the case only for the specific software setup they employed08:50
archaiosif you're using a different setup08:50
archaiosthe reverse may be true08:50
Jobberwackyyeah, what he said08:51
Mitrovarrarchaios:  No doubt, but it could also be true that it wouldn't be. They might actually be better.08:51
archaiosit is absurd to claim "AMD is faster than Intel" or vice-versa, because it's so dependent on random variables, the choice of application, the OS, the mainboard08:51
iterarchaios: got any benchmarks to back that up?08:51
archaiosand all sorts of confounding factors08:51
itercause I've seen a few the other way08:51
archaiositer: I hope you're being ironic08:51
Mitrovarrarchaios:  Well, I favor tests that run as close to what you want to do as possible.08:51
archaiositer: benchmarks are meaningless except in reference to the original system and applications you're benchmarking with08:51
AWOSDevI'm sorry -- I *HATE* repeating questions -- but -- would http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=450232&N=200135&An=browse work with Dapper Drake?08:51
iternah I'm just buying cooler chips now08:52
iterserver room is too fsckin hot08:52
Jobberwackyme too, I will choose the cooler chip08:52
iterso 5150s please08:52
archaiositer: my Duron 900 MHz processor used to ran at 120 degrees Celsius in summer08:52
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RivercityOperatoAWOSDev, that link didn't bring anything up08:52
archaiositer: enough to melt plastic08:52
Jobberwackythe heat is getting ridiculous with these things08:52
iterarchaios: no thanks ouch08:52
archaiosJobberwacky: nothing compared to what I endured08:52
archaiosnothing08:52
archaiosJobberwacky: the case of my old PC got too hot to touch08:52
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iterbe having hdds die right and left08:52
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AWOSDevMy 500MHz runs at 52 degrees celcius08:52
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Mitrovarrarchaios:  And it's not always absurd to make such a claim.  Imagine comparing a new Core 2 Duo to something like, a old Athlon 900.  Surely at some point, you can claim one is better all confounding factors aside.08:53
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archaiositer: actually, it was surprisingly resilient08:53
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archaiositer: my hardware never died08:53
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AWOSDevMy 1.6GHz runs at 90+ degrees Celsius08:53
Jobberwackyarchaios, well that's a big selling point08:53
AWOSDevboth Intel Celeron08:53
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archaiosMitrovarr: to some degree... but you can't sit there and make claims if the processors are sufficiently similar08:53
Jobberwackyand dynamic cpu fans, oh boy, those are from hell08:53
AWOSDev Ativa 56K V.92 External RS232/Serial Modem08:53
AWOSDev^ that's the modem08:53
Jobberwackychea fans* that is, noisy things08:54
archaiosMitrovarr: in fact, I know of several benchmarks showing that the newer AMD processors beat the Duo08:54
archaiosMitrovarr: so, ultimately08:54
Mitrovarrarchaios:  Well, I'll look into linux performance.  If both OSs mirror each other, I think the claim is sufficiently valid (if not 'intrinsically' for most users)08:54
archaiosit depends on the confounding factors08:54
iterarchaios: where are the benchmarks08:54
RivercityOperatoyeah, AWOS, I don't know if I fsked up or my browser did when I first clicked on it.  but second time I clicked the link it came up right08:54
Mitrovarranyways, I'm off guys.  Laters!08:54
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MadpilotJobberwacky, archaios & others - please take the processor chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, it's not really a tech support issue - thanks...08:54
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AWOSDevfsck -- that's just so funny -- it's supposed to be File System ChecK but it can be used for other things :)08:55
iteranyone here use synergy08:55
AWOSDevBut please remember08:55
AWOSDev!language08:55
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:55
itermy clipboard is flakey08:55
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AWOSDeviter: I use Klipper08:55
Healotoh bugger08:55
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Jobberwackyyeah, I should unplug anyways, have a nice day or night08:55
AWOSDevRivercityOperato -- well will it work?08:55
sishguptahey, does WoW work in wine with the cvs versions of mesa?08:55
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AWOSDevJobberywacky -- bye!08:56
RivercityOperatohmmmm, with NDISWrapper it might08:56
AWOSDevNDISwrapper for modems?08:56
Krinnshai whan am going to set my printer on kubuntu08:56
archaiositer: the benchmarks are around... I performed many of my own, but as I've said repeatedly, there are so many confounding factors you cannot clearly say one processor is superior to another08:56
archaiosanyway08:56
archaiosend of discussion08:56
RivercityOperatojust a guess08:56
AWOSDevI thought NDISwrapper was for NICs08:56
Krinnsi go to administraotr mode it gives me errro08:56
RivercityOperatoyeah probably08:56
iterAWOSDev: klipper can be used to sync clipboard between computers?08:56
fabiHi all what program do I need to run windows program in linux08:56
Krinnssu returned with an error08:56
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Krinnswhat does it mean08:56
HealotWINE, fabi08:56
iterKrinns: sudo -s08:56
AWOSDeviter: No, Klipper doesn't do that -- sorry I misunderstood you08:56
Healot!wine08:56
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:56
Krinnshow08:56
Krinnsam using GUI08:57
fabihealot, where do I get it?08:57
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AWOSDevAFK?08:57
Healot!info wine08:57
Krinnsi just press administrator mode08:57
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB08:57
RivercityOperatodoes Ativa have a useful website, AWOSDev?08:57
Krinnsideally is should ask for root password08:57
Healotinstall it, fabi, from the repos08:57
AWOSDevRivercityOperato -- they are made by Office Depot themselves, so I don't think so :(08:57
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HealotKrinns: your password is needed instead08:57
AWOSDevRivercityOperato -- that's the only result on Office Depot's website for Modems and not Cable modems08:57
RivercityOperatook.  gotta go08:58
fabiam new user. thanks I'll try it. later,08:58
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AWOSDevRivercityOperato -- I personally know nothing about them, I'm gonna have to purchase the $50 thing08:58
AWOSDevAh dang he's gone08:58
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AWOSDevarchaios, could you tell me if this modem would work?08:58
AWOSDevhttp://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=450232&N=200135&An=browse08:58
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sishguptacan anyone help me revert to the mesa packages in the offical ubuntu repository? when i try to force to the version in synaptic it forces me to uninstall packages like ubuntu-desktop.08:58
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Green_Magearchaios: If I disable legacy USB support to install Ubuntu, will I be able to use legacy USB in the OS? Or will I get an error when I try to boot it?08:59
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dong520who can speak chinaese09:00
AWOSDevHoly moly!  $104.98 for an external modem?09:00
Healotwo bu xing, dong52009:00
Healot!zh09:00
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk09:00
dong520who come for china09:00
hamdantar xzf  command run only with tar.gz ?09:00
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AWOSDevgzip -d whatever.tar.gz09:00
AWOSDevtar xf whatever.tar09:01
AWOSDevcd whatever09:01
iterhamdan: tar zxf09:01
Kreamhow do I see what files were installed by a particular package ?09:01
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AWOSDev^ that's what I use09:01
MZMhow can I check wich pkg versions I can build with apt-get -b source?09:01
Guest666unrar-free not support winrar3 archives ?09:01
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AWOSDevKream, go into Synaptic and right click -- there should be properties09:01
AWOSDevWell I have to go09:01
AWOSDevBye!09:01
KreamAWOSDev:  from the command line ?09:01
AWOSDevKream -- no Synaptic is System-->Tools-->Synaptic09:02
hamdanhamdan@hamdan-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo tar zxf xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz209:02
hamdangzip: stdin: not in gzip format09:02
hamdantar: Child returned status 109:02
hamdantar: Error exit delayed from previous errors     why ?09:02
AWOSDevor mayve System-->Administration-->Synaptic09:02
AWOSDevhamdan09:02
KreamAWOSDev:  thanks :) . how do I find out using the command line ?09:02
AWOSDevbunzip209:02
HealotGuest666: no, but unrar does. unrar is the non-free version09:02
AWOSDevKream -- I think aptitude09:02
iterhamdan: tar jzxf xine-blah09:02
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AWOSDevWell anyway, good bye all!09:02
iterhamdan: j is for bz209:02
Kreamthanks AWOSDev09:02
AWOSDevNo problem Kream09:03
MZMhamdan: -z for tgz -j for tar.bz209:03
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Guest666where i can found unrar ?09:03
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Healot!info unrar09:04
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB09:04
tryggHow do i edit so that 'startx' starts fluxbox instead of gnome?09:04
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Guest666what repository hace it ?09:04
Healotunrar will replace unrar-free09:04
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HealotGuest666: multiverse, read what ubotu said09:04
wweaselI am building a package from source, and i'd like to exclude a file when it installs it. How can I get it to do that?09:04
RadenXubotu i have an qestion09:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i have an qestion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:05
hamdanhamdan@hamdan-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo tar jzxf xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz209:05
hamdantar: Conflicting compression options09:05
hamdanTry `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.09:05
RadenXubotu i have an question09:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i have an question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:05
MadpilotRadenX, ubotu is a bot, not a person...09:05
rugbythomasI am just starting to learn ubuntu, I'm a computer sci major and I have to make my first make file, what is the best program to do this09:05
RadenXaha09:05
RadenXok09:05
KrinnsHealot am using GUI09:05
Krinnsits wont ask me for root password09:06
Krinnsjust says09:06
Krinnssu returned with an error09:06
tryggRadenX: Just ask the question? :)09:06
iterKrinns: open terminal and do sudo passwd root09:06
RadenXi`m searcing for  root password in cd mode09:06
Lilandrarugbythomas: a text editor?09:06
Guest666what is adres of working multiserve reposoitory where i can found unrar nonfree ?09:06
wweaselrugbythomas: I believe what you are looking for is autoconf. I am not an expert though, so I'm just pointing in what I think is the right direction.09:07
Lilandraoh! autoconf...how does that work?09:07
MadpilotRadenX, there isn't one on the LiveCD - just use sudo, it'll work w/o password09:07
Krinnsbut how i set my printer from command line09:07
MadpilotKrinns, you to - use sudo + your own user pw...09:07
rugbythomastext editor would world, I was think there had to be a program meet for doing it09:07
wweaselLilandra: I don't understand it, I just know I needed to use it to rebuild a make file when I merged some SVN patches into a stable I was installing. So I think that's what he needs.09:07
RadenXi need SU pass09:08
RadenX?09:08
bbrazilrugbythomas: yes, automake. You really want to use a text editor09:08
iterKrinns: RadenX: run that command to enable root account09:08
MadpilotRadenX, on the LiveCD there is no password.09:08
Lilandrarugbythomas: well if you're just typing it up and u know what you're typing, any text editor09:08
Lilandrawweasel: i can only do SIMPLE make files...i need to learn09:08
bbrazilrugbythomas: info make has some good docs09:08
Madpilotiter, there is no good reason to enable a root pw in Ubuntu, and all the GUI tools are configured to use sudo instead...09:08
wweaselDoes anyone here know how to help me exclude a file from a program I am installing from source?09:09
LilandraMadpilot: so if i want someone else to ahve root access, i need to add them to sudoers?09:09
iterMadpilot: don't you think enabling it might solve the error returned by su for Krinns ?09:09
MadpilotLilandra, yes09:09
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itersince su barfs if there is no root acct?09:09
Lilandrasudo su09:09
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Madpilotiter, that's why I told him to use sudo, not su...09:09
Madpilot!sudo09:09
Krinnsya doing09:09
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:09
Krinnsits doing09:10
Lilandrabut the first time i realized there was no root, boy was i confused09:10
Guest666ubotu, what repositoty have unrar ?09:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about what repositoty have unrar ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:10
bbraziliter: please don't give people that command while in here. Point them to the RootSudo wiki page09:10
fallingdutchhow do the initramfs tools work? i need to add a binary to the initial ramdisk and a script to do some work, so what do i have to do in /usr/shar/initramfs-tools/ ? any links to documentations or howtos are very welcome, too09:10
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iterbbrazil: su was throwing an error from gui mode09:10
bbrazilfallingdutch: check /usr/share/doc, there's a hook directory somewhere.09:10
bbraziliter: yes, because ubuntu doesn't use su09:11
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iterso I'm supposed to tell him to use cli to enable printer ?09:11
archaiosAGITPROP09:11
bbraziliter: there's a gnome-printing-manager thingy you have to use. Major brokenness in the CUPS web interface09:11
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Lynoureubuntu does use su if you ask it to09:11
wweaselYou guys were just discussing make files...I am installing tk from source, and I want to exclude a specific file when I run "make install". How?09:12
archaioswweasel, you can't09:12
archaioswithout editing the makefile09:12
iterbbrazil: if I understand Krinns, it was gnome-printing mgr that was throwing the error09:12
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irawaniter: I just installed gnome-cups-manager09:12
bbraziliter: that sounds more like bug report territory09:12
irawaniter: you may try09:12
Madpilotiter, all the GUI tools should work with sud/the user's pw, so how su came into this, I'm not sure...09:12
wweaselarchaios: Fair enough. Would it be hard to just tell it to exclude a file by editing the makefile? (We're not talking about a key thing, we're talking about a README doc)09:12
iterjeez he just wanted to use hit printer09:13
hamdanhamdan@hamdan-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo tar jzfx xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz209:13
hamdantar: Conflicting compression options09:13
iterso I'm not allowed to tell him how to get it working?09:13
archaioswweasel: no, look for the install: section09:13
iterinstead its cli or bug report?09:13
iterhmmm09:13
archaioswweasel: there may be a makefile in the docs dir09:13
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archaiosor it may be in the main package dir09:13
bbraziliter: we don't encourage setting a root password without understanding the reasoning behind why there isn't a root password09:13
Madpilotiter, gnome's print manager GUI thing should work just fine w/ the user's own pw (does it even need a pw at all?)09:14
hamdantar: Conflicting compression options09:14
hamdan??09:14
narghamdan: j = bzip2, z = gzip xvf perhaps?09:14
Krinnsiter it gives Radeon hardware not found in lspci output09:14
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blfisher_Okay, I'm definitely not understanding why internect connection sharing isn't working.  I went through the entire tutorial for firehol and still nothing09:14
blfisher_Does anyone know of a quick and efficient way to get internet connection sharing up and running?09:14
archaiosAHAHAHA09:14
iterKrinns: I thought you were setting up the printer?09:15
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hamdannarg sudo tar jzfx xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz209:15
Krinnsyes09:15
narghamdan: sudo tar -xjf xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz209:16
archaiosit doesn't matter what comes, fresh goes better with life09:17
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archaioswith mentos freshness full of life09:17
richiefrichthe f must be at the end09:17
archaiosactually09:18
archaiosyou don't need the j09:18
zanpakutoblfisher_,  can I see your firehol.conf?09:18
archaiosyou can tar xvf any .tar.gz or .tar.bz209:18
archaiosit will autodetect the format.09:18
archaiosonly older versions of tar require j or z09:18
richiefrichyes but09:18
richiefrichu need the f last09:18
richiefrich<hamdan> narg sudo tar jzfx xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz2  <-- that wont work09:18
archaiosrichard, no you don't09:18
archaiosI assure you09:18
blfisher_zanpakuto: sure.  Let me find a pastebin09:18
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nargrichiefrich: never heard of that before09:18
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archaiosrichard, you might with your version of tar09:19
richiefrich read the man page09:19
zanpakutoblfisher_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/09:19
archaiosmine works without it09:19
archaiosrichard:09:19
richiefrichim not richard:09:19
richiefrichkthanx09:19
archaiosrichiefrich, rather09:19
archaiosI'm not tabbing your nick09:19
richiefrichok09:19
archaiosroot@gateway:/usr/src# tar xfv squid-2.6.STABLE3.tar.gz09:19
archaiossquid-2.6.STABLE3/09:19
archaiossquid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/09:19
archaiossquid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/compile09:19
richiefrichit's easier like that09:19
archaiosseems that you're wrong09:19
archaiosat least on slackware09:19
blfisher_zanpakuto: http://pastebin.com/77861609:19
richiefrichtry the x last09:20
richiefrichthe v is vebose09:20
archaios...09:20
archaiosevidently.09:20
archaiosI'm not stupid. -_-09:20
richiefrichthen09:20
archaiosI was just showing that it does work with the f second.09:20
richiefrichu cant do09:20
richiefrichtar fz09:20
richiefrichtar fx09:20
richiefrichi dont use v09:20
Healotf - filename09:20
blfisher_zanpakuto: actually, I just changed the dns on my LAN client.  Now I can surf the internet again, but I can't connect to IRC once again as well :/09:20
archaiosroot@gateway:/usr/src# tar vfx squid-2.6.STABLE3.tar.gz09:20
archaiossquid-2.6.STABLE3/09:20
archaiossquid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/09:20
archaiossquid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/compile09:20
archaiossquid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/config.guess09:20
archaiossquid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/config.sub09:20
archaiossquid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/depcomp09:20
Healotz - zipped09:20
archaioswanna bet?09:20
archaios:)09:21
Healotx - uncompress09:21
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archaiosit works just find, richiefrich09:21
archaiosHealot, you don't need the z or the j09:21
Healotv - show details of files09:21
archaiosHealot, oh god09:21
archaioswe're not stupid09:21
Healotmy favorite09:21
Healotarchaios: soundsw like you are09:21
blfisher_zanpakuto: when I try to connect to IRC, I get the error message "software caused connection abort"09:21
archaiosHealot, I've been programming for 14 years09:21
richiefrichthen on gentoo it's borked09:21
archaiosI'm a professional kernel developer for Linux and Windows09:21
archaiosI do contract work for fortune 500 companies09:21
blfisher_zanpakuto: but I'm positive it's not the software's fault.  Because I get the same error even when I try to use web IRC clients.09:21
archaiosthe only stupid person around here sure ain't mer09:22
archaios-r09:22
nargarchaios: do a tar --version, and tell me what it is09:22
dmsantamarchaios you're a kernel developer for linux AND windows?09:22
archaiosdmsantam: correct09:22
Madpilotarchaios, 1. be polite; 2. no more multi-line pastes, please - lots of pastebins out there09:22
ra1which one u suggest for taking backup rsync or unison09:22
dmsantamarchaios do you have a website?09:22
zanpakutoblfisher_, by some reason have you edited /etc/default/firehol ?09:22
archaiosMadpilot: 1. I called no one stupid -- Healot did. 2. I've been nothing but polite. 3. I was merely demonstrating rapidly that the position of the 'f' argument to tar does not matter.09:22
Healotarchaios: just sounds like you are, i dont need to know what you've done etc. etc. :)09:23
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richiefrichra1 rsync09:23
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blfisher_zanpakuto: yeah.  I edited it to say start=YES and wait for "eth0"09:23
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archaiosHealot: how do I "sound" stupid? I just showed that the position of the f parameter doesn't matter09:23
blfisher_I couldn't get firehol to start without editing it09:23
archaiosyou're claiming that it does09:23
MadpilotHealot, you be polite too, or I'll just make things easier by kicking the pair of you... :|09:23
archaiosnarg: tar (GNU tar) 1.15.109:23
blfisher_zanpakuto: but I still have the original file if you want me to put it back09:23
richiefrichtar (GNU tar) 1.15.9109:23
ra1richiefrich: what is advantage of rsync comparing with unison09:23
archaiosHealot: in fact, I've said nothing even remotely stupid09:23
Healotwe know it doesn't matter09:24
iterra1: unison uses rsync09:24
archaiosrichiefrich: my version of tar does not care where the f parameter is, and nor should yours09:24
archaiosit uses getopt_long()09:24
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archaioswhich definitely does not care where the filename argument is09:24
iterra1: unison goes both ways, rsync only one09:24
nargarchaios: interesting, same as mine, but mine does need f at the end. Ubuntu oddness...09:24
jattdoes ubuntu (dapper) include a remote desktop server?09:24
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Healotyou don't have to reason with him though, archaios09:24
dmsantamarchaios you loudly professed to be a professional kernel developer for windows and linux for fortune 500 companies. i think you should reconsider whether you've said something stupid. just a suggestion :)09:24
ra1can u explain iter09:24
richiefrichra1 just prefer rsync09:24
archaiosdmsantam: pardon? that's true, and you can speak to my clients if you wish :)09:25
jattI know about the client (rdesktop). I wanna work on my home laptop (ubuntu) through remote desktop from my office09:25
archaiosdmsantam: you may not like it, but I'm no fool09:25
dmsantamarchaios what is your webpage?09:25
iterra1: yes unison uses the rsync protocol to do its transfers09:25
richiefricharchaios i'll try it that why.. when im done syncing from this svn :P09:25
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iterra1: and while rsync can do server A -> server B unison can do server A <-> server B data transfers09:25
zanpakutoblfisher_, I never used reverse, can you try the simpler one first? comment the router internet2home stuff and add router home2internet then put masquerade  and client all accept then restart firehol?09:25
KrakensDenjatt, you might want to look into either vnc or nx/nomachine09:25
archaiosdmsantam: website? haha. I don't even have one... I don't need to advertise to reach business contacts, dmsantam, because I've been in the business for nigh on 15 years09:25
ra1k what abt the memory usage comparing with rsync09:25
stephansjatt, what do you want to do?09:26
blfisher_zanpakuto: sure.  But this is the output I get from firehol when I start it without the edited /etc/default/firehol >> " FireHOL ...Stopping: /etc/default/firehol forbids it."09:26
stephansjust rdp to a windows box from ubuntu?09:26
jattKrakensDen: thanks. I've tried vnc in the past but it is terribly slow. what do you mean by nx/nomachine?09:26
KrakensDenjatt, http://freenx.berlios.de/09:26
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richiefricharchaios what kernel do u work on ?09:26
jattstephans: the other way around: I want to rdp to a linux box from windows09:27
richiefricharchaios mm git ?09:27
KrakensDenjatt, it's basically compression for X11 protocol09:27
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ra1iter: k what abt the memory usage comparing with rsync09:27
richiefricharchaios or i mean what one do u patch for09:27
zanpakutoblfisher_, yup. put your edited default/firehol file (ie enabled firehol)09:27
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archaiosrichiefrich: my kernel development is contractual work09:27
KrakensDenjatt, as far as I know, RDP is based on the assumption that the server is running windows09:27
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iterra1: can't speak to it, sorry09:27
archaiosrichiefrich: I modify whatever kernel my client requires09:27
richiefricharchaios so all custom09:27
iterra1: they both seem to work fine09:27
yoshiznit123hey everyone, is there a way to share a raid drive between ubuntu and windows?09:27
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dmsantamarchaios who is your biggest client?09:27
KrakensDenjatt, there are binaries available09:28
stephansljatt, inux does not support rdp as a server service... you have to use X or vnc, or Tarantella...09:28
KrakensDenjatt, I don't really have experience with it though :/09:28
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ra1iter: regarding memory usage which one u suggest rsync or unison09:28
jattstephans, KrakensDen you are right rdp may be only for windows servers. On http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3408501 I read about VNC integration in an earlier version of gnome (2.8(09:28
archaiosdmsantam: as of now, I'm doing a large amount of work for several start-ups. there is a rapidly diminishing market among larger corporations due to outsourcing, but I'm still in the business.09:28
stephansyou can enable the "remote Desktop" in ubuntu... and use a vnc client...09:28
archaiosdmsantam: my former employer was IBM09:28
richiefricharchaios  did u by chance check out the new slack ver ?  thats a 2.6 kerenl now by default?09:28
nargyoshiznit123: not formatting it ntfs?09:28
iterra1: should be pretty much the same same09:28
KrakensDenrichiefrich, it is?09:29
iterra1: rsync is a little simpler to implement09:29
richiefrichim askin09:29
KrakensDenrichiefrich, I thought 11 was still putting that off?09:29
jattstephans: I think I miss the package ofr the remote desktop option. Under System->Preferences I don't have that option.09:29
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KrakensDen2.6 is ridiculously unstable09:29
ra1iter: k tk09:29
richiefrichKrakensDen im asking09:29
ricperry1Sorry for spamming the room, but are there any networking gurus in here?  I'm having a little difficulty in correcting a windows networking problem while I migrate my configuration to linux-only.09:29
KrakensDenrichiefrich, as of a few weeks ago, no09:29
archaiosdmsantam: I did contractual work for IBM Global Services Australia primarily for z/OS, on loan to a major telecommunications company09:29
archaiosthese days09:29
richiefrichKrakensDen  what do u mean ridiculously ?09:29
archaiosI'm independent09:29
stephansjatt, it is there ...  system>preferences> remote desktop09:29
yoshiznit123narg, i have 2 drives that are raided together, and i'd like to have a vfat/ntfs/ext3 partition that's readable from both linux and windows09:29
KrakensDenrichiefrich, it is highly unstable09:29
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ra1iter: is there is good tool available on linux to take backup incremental09:30
Guest666The program 'totem' received an X Window System error.09:30
Guest666This probably reflects a bug in the program.09:30
Guest666The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.09:30
Guest666  (Details: serial 71 error_code 11 request_code 141 minor_code 19)09:30
Guest666  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;09:30
Guest666   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.09:30
KrakensDenrichiefrich, especially if you do anything bus intensive on non-high end hardware09:30
Guest666   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line09:30
Guest666   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful09:30
richiefrichKrakensDen  im been on they lastest kernel for  and had no problems09:30
Guest666   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)09:30
Guest666 - what is this ?09:30
Healot!paste09:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:30
KrakensDenrichiefrich, you've been very, very lucky09:30
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jattstephans: not on my desktop :( (dapper). I think I don't have the package installed for it.09:30
stephansjatt, you can use the "add/remove" program to add it...09:30
irawanhas anyone try www.gnome-dock.org in dapper yet?09:30
KrakensDenrichiefrich, I have a box running ubuntu that goes down twice a day at least09:30
richiefrichKrakensDen  why do u say that. so u run 2.4 ?09:30
blfisher_zanpakuto: http://pastebin.com/77861709:30
MadpilotGuest666, next time, use a pastebin!!!09:30
archaiosdmsantam: if you wish to challenge my credentials, feel free to do it in private... it's clearly off-topic09:30
KrakensDenrichiefrich, nope, the hardware support in 2.6 is better09:30
richiefrichKrakensDen i never heard of such a thing09:30
KrakensDenrichiefrich, I only boot into slack if I need to do hardcore offline work09:31
nargyoshiznit123: I'm not knowledgeable about raids, but my (single disk) partitions share just fine when needed. except for the ntfs one.09:31
richiefrichim shocked u didnt goto arch09:31
Guest666http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21955 - why totem not works ?09:31
KrakensDenrichiefrich, google around, lots of people are having trouble09:31
blfisher_zanpakuto: also, I let my irc client on the LAN computer run for a while, and it finally connected.  But I don't think I should have to wait 20 retries before I can finally get connected to a server09:31
MZMhow can I build deb from source using aditional repo defined in sources.list? apt-get source always gives pkg from main repo...09:31
Guest666Madpilot, ok, sorry09:31
KrakensDenarch looks nice, but I don't really have the time09:31
yoshiznit123narg, okay (you might want to try ntfs-3g :-)09:31
KrakensDenI already have a working slack install ;)09:31
yoshiznit123does anyone else know if it's possible to share a raided partition between windows and ubuntu?09:32
richiefrichKrakensDen  why chose a distro thats cmopiled on i386  instead of one thats on i686 ?09:32
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zanpakutoblfisher_, so you are now able to connect?09:32
nargyoshiznit123: pft, I boot into windows once at month at best, and I only have games on ntfs. Not worth the effort ;)09:32
richiefrichKrakensDen unless  u have an old box09:32
KrakensDenrichiefrich, it makes hardly any difference09:32
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KrakensDenrichiefrich, really, it doesn't09:32
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richiefrichKrakensDen i disagree09:32
zanpakutoblfisher_, i mean share internet connection and use irc on the local network?09:32
KrakensDenrichiefrich, and it isn't that hard to recompile your kernel09:32
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richiefrichKrakensDen  totally on that comment :P09:32
KrakensDenrichiefrich, I've done that plenty of times since I first downloaded Debian woody :)09:32
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richiefrichwoody !09:33
richiefrichthats older then slack09:33
KrakensDentook me 4 installs to get it working09:33
KrakensDen:P09:33
richiefrichlol09:33
blfisher_zanpakuto: somewhat.  I can use the internet better than ever.  Everything feels fast.  But it takes nearly 20 retries before I can get connected to an IRC server (where I used to connect on the first attempt)09:33
richiefrichKrakensDen wow why not use etch09:33
KrakensDenrichiefrich, because etch wasn't out then?09:33
richiefrichKrakensDen ahh09:33
ricperry1For ANY NETWORKING GURU:  My network topology:  ADSL modem -> 4 port hub -> laptop1 (connected to hub) , Vonage router (connected to hub) -> laptop2 (wirelessly connected to router) , linux workstation (connected to router).  Devices on Router (workstation, laptop2) connect to internet fine, laptop1 (connected to hub) will not connect to internet.  Any advice?09:34
blfisher_zanpakuto: btw, I posted my updated firehol.conf up above09:34
richiefrichKrakensDen   so im just shocked that u dindt goto arch thats all09:34
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Madpilotrichiefrich & KrakensDen - please move the chat about other distros to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM, please...09:34
richiefrichk09:34
jattstephans: thanks. I found the package I was missing: it is called vino. I did apt-get install vino and now System->Preference->Remote Desktop is there09:35
KrakensDendoes the session-manager in Dapper work?09:35
Kreamricperry1:  what's the internal IP address of the adsl modem?09:35
stephansjatt, cool..09:35
Kreamricperry1:  and the ip address of laptop1 ?09:35
ricperry1192.168.1.3 (static)09:35
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zanpakutoblfisher_, yup, saw it. :) dont know why you can't connect right away.09:36
hamdanwho is can remote y computer to slove my problems ?09:36
ricperry1ADSL modem is ... just a min. gotta look it up....09:36
hamdany= my09:36
blfisher_zanpakuto: are you using firehol as a means to masquerade?09:36
zanpakutoblfisher_, yup.09:36
blfisher_zanpakuto: and if so, do you get connected to irc quickly?09:36
yoshiznit123anybody know if linux supports windows dynamic disks?09:36
hamdanwho is can remote my computer to slove my problems ?09:36
KrakensDenyoshiznit123, you mean ramdisks on flash drives?09:37
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jncan someone help me get identd working09:37
KrakensDenyoshiznit123, ie, using flashdrives as memory cards?09:37
yoshiznit123krakensden, no, like "basic vs dynamic disks" and raided drives09:37
zanpakutoblfisher_, more or less yes.09:37
ricperry1Kream:  My ADSL IP address is 219.126.163.3009:37
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jn!identd09:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:38
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jn,identd09:38
jnbummer09:38
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zanpakutoblfisher_, no retries09:38
KrakensDenyoshiznit123, nevermind09:38
Kreamricperry1:  yeah, that's your external IP address - but your ADSL modem should also have an internal IP address - typically, 192.168.1.109:38
ricperry1Kream: Yes, that is the correct internal IP address.09:38
hamdanwho is can remote my computer to slove my problems ?09:39
overriddengood morning09:39
Remyhey guys, how can I check what port a PCMCIA modem is assigned to?09:39
blfisher_zanpakuto: Hm, I seem to be connecting alright on 7000, but not 666709:39
Kreamricperry1:  your ADSL modem sits between your network and the internet. therefore, its got to be able to talk to both networks. therefore, it's got to have IP addresses valid for both. and since it's got 2 interfaces - one external and one internal, it's got to have 2 IP addresses09:39
blfisher_zanpakuto: this is weird09:39
Remyeg, /dev/ttySo, etc ?09:39
Kreamricperry1:  in your ADSL modem's web interface, look for LAN09:40
ricperry1Kream, rgr.  I know that, I understand that.09:40
[1] CaptainMorganfolks09:40
Kreamricperry1:  that's what's there on mine09:40
yoshiznit123remy, system>administrator>device manager09:40
jnso has anyone managed to get identd working in ubuntu09:40
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[1] CaptainMorganhow do I mount an hdc1 or win partition if my /etc/fstab has barely anything in it?09:40
ricperry1Kream:  My biggest problem with my ADSL modem is that the interface is in Japanese (I'm American stationed in Japan in the military).09:41
[1] CaptainMorganI keep getting unknown filesystem 'ntfs'09:41
Kreamricperry1:  you've given me the IP address that the rest of the world can use to contact your ADSL modem. your network's computers, however, use an internal IP address to connect to the ADSL modem.09:41
Kreamricperry1:  ahhh.09:41
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ricperry1So the web interface is very difficult to understand.09:41
blfisher_zankaputo: in fact, on port 7000, I get connected to the network faster than ever before09:41
Kreamricperry1:  what's the web address of the modem you use ?09:41
Kreamricperry1:  is it something like http://192.168.1.1/admin ?09:41
zanpakutoblfisher_, hmmm. might be the server load or something.09:41
ricperry1I'm pretty sure my ADSL modem is set up correctly because I have had it working before, and I didn't change anything.09:42
zanpakutoblfisher_, i really dont know. :)09:42
Kreamricperry1:  i'm sure it is, too09:42
ricperry1I think it is a winblows problem (I'm trying to migrate to ubuntu on my laptop which is serving my web page).  But I need to back up the data prior to destroying the windows partition.09:42
Kreamricperry1:  i think it's basically a matter of setting the route on laptop1. but i'd like confirmation first that both machines are on the same IP range09:42
Kreamricperry1:  what's the web address of the modem you use ?09:42
blfisher_zanpakuto: Well anyhow, thanks a ton for helping me out.  You just saved me a huge headache.  Now I only have a little one ;-)09:43
ricperry1Kream: external?09:43
Kreamricperry1:  are you using the web interface for the modem ?09:43
jn< needs help installing identd09:43
Kreamjust paste the address here09:43
zanpakutoblfisher_, you are welcome. :)09:43
ricperry1 That's the address I gave earlier.09:43
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Kreamricperry1:  paste the URL of the ADSL modem her09:44
Kreamhere09:44
ricperry1I don't think the web interface is visible from outside of my network.09:44
ricperry1Kream: http://ntt.setup (http://192.168.1.1)09:44
Kreamit won't be. i'm just trying to find out the blessed IP address taht the modem uses for the internal network09:44
ricperry1But you can't access that from outside.09:45
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Kreamthank you.09:45
Kreami'm NOT TRYING TO.09:45
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Healotdamn, automated URL09:45
Kreami just wanted IP address 192.168.1.109:45
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ricperry1Sorry, thought I already told you that one.09:45
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Kreamricperry1:  now. from laptop1, open a terminal window and type the following:09:45
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Kreamping 192.168.1.109:45
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ricperry1that works fine.09:46
Kreamricperry1:  good. so they're accessible to each other.09:47
ricperry1although it says 0ms (which doesn't make sense even though they're only separated by a hub).09:47
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ricperry1but I can access the web interface from laptop109:47
Kreamricperry1:  yes, i'm sure you can09:47
ricperry1and the other computer on on the network with a webserver running.09:48
Kreamricperry1:  okay. is the laptop running ubuntu?09:48
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Krinnswhat i do for printer i cant do su09:48
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MistaEDhey there's one serious bug in ubuntu/some browsers atm, i tried to use the commonwealth bank site to transfer funds and it completely kills off the xserver, firefox, firefox in wine and iexploder in wine all have the issue except for opera, haven't tried konqueror yet09:49
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MistaEDvery weird, happens on two machines with dapper 6.0609:49
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ricperry1Kream: laptop1 running WindowsXP Pro (at the moment)09:51
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ricperry1sorry09:51
ricperry1when I have Ubuntu booted, it won't connect to the internet either.  i can reboot, but the problem persists, and my website is under windows/xampp right now09:52
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Kreamricperry1:  you need to get DCHP activated on ubuntu and on the ADSL router. ask a japanese speaker to activate it for you. and ask the good folk here to help walk you through using the GUI to set up your network card in ubuntu to use DHCP09:53
redondo81cc09:53
Kreamricperry1:  DHCP is probably activated already on the ADSL modem09:53
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Guest666what ftpd is better?09:54
jnhola09:54
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Healotvsftd09:54
Healotvsftpd09:54
Guest666it have gui ?09:54
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Lathiatno09:54
Guest666!info vsftpd09:54
Kreamand i'd rather scrape my eyeballs against rocksalt than remotely debug a windows network problem over IRC09:54
ubotuvsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 404 kB09:54
jni would really like to get identd working in ubuntu i read some docs for pidentd but could not get it working, if you managed to get it working please help me out09:54
Lathiatjn: try oidentd09:54
Lathiatthat works for me09:54
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Healotit's runs as daemon, there is no need for GUI on that :-09:55
Remyhey guys, how can I check what port a PCMCIA modem is assigned to?09:55
Remyeg, /dev/ttySo, etc ?09:55
jnyou are not using it now tho?09:55
LathiatRemy: if you run 'dmesg|grep ttyS' it may become apparent09:55
jnyour wi comes back as n= insted of i=09:55
Guest666!info traffic-vis09:55
ubotutraffic-vis: A sniffer that can display reports in HTML, Postscript and other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.34-17 (dapper), package size 55 kB, installed size 288 kB09:55
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jnwhich leads me to believe you are not using it correctly09:55
LathiatGuest666: theres pureadmin for pure-ftpd09:55
Lathiati cant vouch for pure-ftpd tho09:56
Lathiatnever used it09:56
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ricperry1Kream:  I deactivated DHCP on the ADSL modem because I wanted to be able to reliably forward http requests to the correct machine.09:56
jnLathiat: oidentd < are you using it now?09:56
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fleetreohow do I download/install the plparser from source on mac os x. ? for rhythmbox?09:57
ricperry1Kream:  I have IP forwarding set to forward port 80 to laptop1.09:57
Kreamricperry1:  this isn't a windows xp support channel. i'm sorry i can't help you any further09:57
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ricperry1Kream:  I figured it would come down to that.  Thanks for your help.  I'll probably just back up my data and start from scratch using Ubuntu.09:57
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brendonjthi ya  back again,  bloody computer,  locked up  then  it wouldn't boot up  couldn't find  any harddrives09:58
ricperry1I truely DESPISE windows.09:58
Kreamricperry1:  and get a native japanese speaker to help you with the ADSL modem. there should be some around where you live09:58
ricperry1lol09:58
mixandgohello, how do I tell ubuntu where to look for packages cause I have two machines and I don't want two download each package twice09:58
rouzic_ausentealegrate, /me ha vuelto09:58
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brendonjtrickperry1:  yip so do i it a poor os written poorly09:58
Lathiatjn: yes09:58
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jnLathiat: i dont think you are using it correctly, as your /wi comes back as n= insted of i= i believe you will find that if you connected to another network you will see ~name@ip meaning you are not utilizing identd10:00
ricperry1On a separate topic, does anyone know of a way to play iTunes purchased music on Ubuntu?  I can't use the WINE/iTunes method because WINE isn't available for AMD64 architecture.10:00
Lathiatjn: oh sorry10:00
Lathiatjn: not on this machien10:00
Lathiatthat i irc from10:00
Lathiatbut it deifnitely works i assure you :)10:00
Lathiatapt-get install and off youg o10:00
Lathiatno config necesary10:00
jnLathiat: did you have to configure /etc/identd.conf?10:00
Lathiatunless you want to change the returned ident or whatever10:01
Lathiatjn: nope didnt touch it10:01
mjrricperry1, there was that software named fairplay that can remove the DRM from them. May be illegal in your jurisdiction, of course. Thank Apple for noninteroperable music.10:01
jnit doesn't work for me10:01
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Lathiat(its actually oidentd.conf)10:01
Lathiatwell define doesnt work10:01
Lathiatare you behind a router?10:01
dreamthiefricperry1, i believe you're SOL ... and so am I ... :-/10:01
Lathiatperhaps need to forward 113?10:01
brendonjtrickperry1:  i have tried running itunes under wine  it don't work10:01
Lathiatrunning a firewall?10:01
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ricperry1dreamthief, have you tried running a virtual machine (like VMWare)?  i haven't tried that.10:04
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elvirolohi all10:07
elviroloi'm using kubuntu dapper with a french keyboard and my shift key doesn't work10:08
elvirolosame with alt gr10:09
elviroloand all the F... series10:09
elvirolocan anyone help me *question mark*10:09
brendonjtwhy not set it to us-104 key10:09
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spiekeyhello!10:14
brendonjtspiekey:  hello10:14
hatredx`yo10:14
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overriddenhowdy10:14
spiekeyi have a german ubuntu installed which sucks when you want to google for errors. Is there a way to change to a english enviorment?10:14
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brendonjtspiekey:  i think  it could be in the languages setting10:15
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brendonjtspiekey:  system->admin->language support10:16
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overriddenmaybe a little more then you want spiekey, but "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" is a cool command10:16
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kvsariholy moley, this channel has a lot of people10:17
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overriddenubuntu rox kvsari ;)10:18
brendonjtoverridden: did i go a bit over the top?10:18
nellyCan anyone help with a printer problem? HP Deskjet 720C - trying to print test page I'm getting "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"10:18
kvsariIs ubuntu meant to hang on waiting for /? I did an upgrade to 6.04 from 5.1010:18
overriddenlive and learn, I guess10:18
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brendonjtoverridden: yip  but thanks for that tip  i'll store that one for latter10:19
overridden:)10:19
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kvsariI've got a funky IDE expansion card where all my harddrives are on. During boot, ubuntu looks at /etc/mtab for mounting doesn't it?10:19
brendonjtoverridden: so what does that command actually do10:19
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overriddenreconfigure all dpkg packages10:19
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overriddenthus -a for all10:20
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overriddenI think standard install just does "enter" the whole way10:20
jni installed oidentd and identd is still not working for me10:20
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spiekeysudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  is indeed a little more than i want :D10:20
overridden"dpkg -l" is cool too10:22
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spiekeydoes someone know a desktop sharing projekt (like vnc) where you can broadcast your own desktop or see the other desktops and connect to them?10:22
overriddenvino10:22
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spiekeyon the linux days a school project had that10:22
brendonjtspiekey:  vnc10:23
spiekeyi more look like somthing like vncselector10:24
spiekeyhttp://vncselector.sourceforge.net/screenshot.png10:24
overriddenspiekey: vino is what you are looking for10:24
brendonjtspiekey:  sorry  don't know it10:24
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billypgot disconected earlier - did I miss a reply?10:26
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richiefrichbillyp i never saw a question10:26
richiefrich:P10:26
brendonjtme either10:27
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billypOh right, this was it> Hi! Trying to run a game for my kids (Blob& Conqer). I have it compiled OK & it runs fine,  but only from the folder where I built the app. When I make a desktop launcher nothing happens. If I run it in terminal, it closes really fast. Is there a way I can debig why this is failing? Thanks (Newbie, 1st ever IRC post!)10:27
ubuntuhi room10:27
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richiefrichbillyp so it doesnt run in a term ?10:28
KenSentMeubuntu: hi10:28
ubuntuhey ken10:28
overriddendude ?10:28
Remyhi, is there an equivalent to hyperterminal in ubuntu?  (telnet program that can talk to modems)10:28
overriddenmy name is "ken" lol10:28
ubuntuohh10:28
KenSentMeoverridden: did you send me?10:28
overriddenno, sry :)10:28
ubuntui meant KenSentMe10:28
ubuntunow dont u guys confuse me :(10:28
jnnobody ive whois'd in this channel has had identd installed, this is a nightmare for someone that is looking for help installing identd which used to be a common thing..10:28
richiefrichbillyp  ?10:29
jnim going nuts10:29
billyprichiefrich: no the term starts & closes in a fraction when you use launcher10:29
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CatastrophicToadhmmm...I didn't think myself good enough to use the handle "ubuntu"...seems sort of like calling yourself "god"10:29
richiefrichbillyp  does it segfault ?10:29
ubuntuhey billy10:29
richiefrichbillyp   whats the error?10:29
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overriddenRemy: remote desktop protocol10:29
KenSentMeCatastrophicToad: or you just login using Xchat and forget to change the nickname10:30
Remyoverridden - could you give me more details?10:30
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CatastrophicToadah10:30
billyprichiefrich: don't get any error. just no response at all. Not sure waht segfault is :-)10:30
richiefrichbillyp  howd u compile it10:31
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overriddengoogle for it Remy10:31
richiefrichmanually >?10:31
richiefrichbillyp   -->  ./configure && make && make install  ??10:31
Remyoverridden - I'm not after actually connecting to a server via telnet, but rather talking directly to a modem10:32
richiefrichRemy what kinda a modem10:32
billypubuntu: hi!10:32
billyprichiefrich: OK will try that, thanks!10:32
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overriddenwhat do you mean "talking" Remy ?10:32
richiefrichbillyp no wait ..10:33
Remyrichiefrich - it's a pcmcia CDMA modem10:33
richiefrichbillyp  is that what u did ?10:33
Remyoverridden - I want to establish direct serial comms to it10:33
Remyrather than dial through it into something else10:33
richiefrichbillyp  what did you do to inatsll it ?10:33
Healotremy: "minicom"10:33
Healot!info minicom10:33
ubotuminicom: friendly menu driven serial communication program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-10 (dapper), package size 150 kB, installed size 892 kB10:33
billyprichiefrich: still here (slow typer!)10:33
Healotdamn the freaking package name!10:33
Remythanks Healot10:33
richiefrichbillyp ok10:33
overridden:)10:34
Healotwtf linuxers make package name "very hard to comprehend"10:34
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IskanjeHi all.. I've got a question10:34
billyprichiefrich: I ran make in a term, got lots of errors & then worked out which dev files I needed until compile ran. Think that was it..10:34
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billyprichiefrich: didn't use the && at all10:35
IskanjeWhen I'm shutting down the system I get an error: "Configuration is not correct. Configuration file contains an invalid10:35
Iskanjecommand line for the login dialog, so running the default command.10:35
IskanjePlease fix your configuration."10:35
richiefrichbillyp did u run .. make install10:35
billyprichiefrich: no10:35
IskanjeWhere should I look to fix and what configuration?10:35
ubuntubillyp: sir 1 question for ya10:35
richiefrichbillyp then u just compiled it10:35
ubuntubillyp:  can u run game via console mode?10:35
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richiefrichubuntu i think he means terminal.. thats what i took it as10:36
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billyprichiefrich:  I have a folder with an executable & that tuns OK. Its geginning to look like I didn't install, isn't it?10:37
ubuntuprob. perm error?10:37
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ubuntumay be heen needs to makr exe for other users?10:37
gotamaHi! My scanner is epson perfection 1270. How to install it? Where to read some information?10:37
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gotamaxsane doesn't detect my scanner?10:38
richiefrichbillyp well if you  did   -- > ./configue   and  make  and n ot  make install then u never installed it10:38
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Remy!tell gotama about scanning10:38
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jn!tell jn about identd10:38
richiefrich!xsane10:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:38
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners10:38
jnYOU SUCK10:38
CSWookieAre install CD's also live?10:38
Healot!find identd10:38
ubuntuCSWookie: some10:38
ubotuFound: bidentd, gidentd, midentd, nullidentd, oidentd (and 4 others)10:38
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gotamaThanks10:39
Remynp10:39
CSWookieubuntu: Which should I get to get this feature?  Desktop or serveR?10:39
ubuntudesktop10:39
billyprichiefrich: ubuntu: I see!!  I thought because I had a binray that ran, I'd finished...Should be OK now. many thanks guys, I thought10:39
jnHealot: i know about those, i just am not sure how to get them to serve their purpose, for example i installed oidentd, fowarded port 113 in the router made policy in firestarter but after a restart and connecting to irssi NO IDENTD10:39
CSWookieubuntu: I want to try and fix my filesystem, before I ubuntufy.10:40
Blacklightanyone know if theres a program for Linux to run .exe or windows programs?10:40
CSWookieOK.  thanks.10:40
ubuntuBlacklight:  wine10:40
archaiosBlacklight: wine10:40
Blacklightthanks guys :D10:40
richiefrichwhats this new thing you guys are going to.. is there a date ?   "upstart"???10:40
ubuntuBlacklight: winehq.org10:40
BlacklightI just got ubuntu today, is quite the cool10:40
archaioswinehq.com actually, ubuntu10:40
ubuntuyes i'm kool10:40
ubuntujust kidding ;)10:41
BlacklightLol :P10:41
CSWookieWell, I told myself I'd give it a shot when I need to reinstall.10:41
Blacklightbyt my computer [possibly my HDD]  makes wierd noises when ubuntu loads webpages...10:41
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CSWookieAnd my filesystem ate it today.10:41
ubuntuBlacklight:  how old is hdd?10:41
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Blacklightrelatively new10:42
Blacklightits 150GB or so, so it cant be that old :p10:42
Remydoes anyone know how to get an icon in the taskbar for a modem?10:42
ubuntulol10:42
Remyatm I have to go to system-> administration->networking to disconnect the modem...10:42
ubuntuRemy:  for dialup connection?10:42
Blacklightill just open it up and take a look. ...10:43
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Remyubuntu - effectively, yes.10:43
CSWookieUgh.  I hat chatting on IRC with gaim.10:43
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ubuntuRemy: try network-admin10:43
Blacklighthmmm. acutally, could be the fan...10:43
Blacklightwait no10:43
Remyubuntu - that's what I currently use, but I want a shortcut directly to the modem...10:44
spiekeyhas someone here got childen? I am looking for some apps like gcompris for my kid :)10:44
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jnhow can no body be using identd10:45
jnits pretty common standard for some servers10:45
ubuntujn:  what bout it?10:45
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jni installed oidentd but cant figure out how to utilize it with irssi10:46
SpCombidentd doesn't work for my newley installed etch server either10:46
Blacklightbest thingsi n life are free10:46
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Blacklighthence... firefox10:46
jni fowarded port 113 in router and firestarter10:46
jndo i need to config a conf somewhere?10:46
ubuntujn:  i dont think so10:46
SpCombwell, it works, but it always seems to return "ERROR : UNKNOWN-ERROR"10:46
jnwelp it's not working10:46
SpCombalthough this is etch not ubuntu10:47
ubuntuu have ot see if irssi has inetd support10:47
SpCombirssi doesn't do identd10:47
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jnSpComb: say what?10:47
SpComb/usr/sbin/identd does identd10:47
jnright10:47
SpCombit's a general daemon, not just irssi10:48
SpComband for whatever reason, it doesn't work by default on etch10:48
jnSpComb: i see you got it working too10:48
jncan you please please please help me10:48
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SpCombit doesn't work here either10:49
jnSpComb: its working for you according to your /wi10:49
jnSpComb i=terom@z10:49
jnis that a bnc?10:49
ubuntuubotu: any good html editors?10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about any good html editors? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
ubuntuubotu: grrrrr10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grrrrr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
ubuntuhaha10:50
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agtHi - which package should I download to get the Qt headers and libraries?10:51
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fyrestrtr!info nvu10:51
ubotunvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB10:51
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fyrestrtragt: libqt-dev I think10:51
ubuntuagt: qt3 i think10:51
ubuntuqt3-dev-tools10:52
Madpilot!html10:52
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com10:52
fyrestrtrubuntu: that nvu is for you.10:52
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ubuntufyrestrtr: ok thanks10:52
Madpilotubuntu, try Bluefish or Screem for HTML editing10:52
agtthanks10:52
ubuntuMadpilot: ty10:52
fyrestrtralso nvu :)10:52
ubuntugrcious :)10:52
ubuntugracious*10:52
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Panterahi can anyone help me I can't seem to add or remove applications all of a sudden by using either add remove or synaptic10:53
ubuntuPantera:  any errors sir?10:54
Healotnvu is wysiwyg >> less odd to use  for newbies10:54
IskanjeCan someone help me please..?10:54
fyrestrtrubuntu: its gracias :)10:54
fyrestrtr!ask10:54
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:54
ubuntuk :)10:54
Panterai get the message failed to check for installed and available applications10:54
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ubuntubrb10:55
Panteraand this is below it This is a major failure of your software management system. Check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information: 'sudo apt-get update'.10:55
IskanjeI did ask.. but here again: When I'm shutting down the system I get an error: "Configuration is not correct. Configuration file contains an invalid10:55
Iskanjecommand line for the login dialog, so running the default command.10:55
agtchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!10:55
IskanjePlease fix your configuration."10:55
IskanjeWhat's the configuration I need to fix?10:55
SpCombjn: this is not the computer I'm talking about... try a /wii SpCombII... and I fixed it by installing oidentd, which seems to actually work10:55
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CSWookieAaron Lehmann#debian pisses me off.10:56
CSWookieOut of 11 pages of hits, there was only one unique one that was ME.10:57
ritvikhmm ... error while looking up definition Connection failed to the dictionary server at dict.org:2628 .. what do i do ?10:57
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JoshHendoI have a windows network set up, and the network works fine connection to windows computers from other windows computers, but ubuntu can't connnect to any other computer (all windows :( ) and none of them can connect to ubuntu, and ubuntu can't connect to any others. Last night Ubuntu could see them but not connect, and now it can't even see them. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks!10:58
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Blacklightcan ubuntu even connect to windows?10:58
SpCombcan you access, say google.com from ubuntu?10:59
SpCombwhat do you mean wiht connect?10:59
robyes10:59
Healoti think he mean Windows Workgroup10:59
JoshHendoI can access the internet from Ubuntu (via the network), but can't connect to any other computer10:59
SpCombwindows shares?10:59
adivoineaI upgraded amavis and now I get this error: "/usr/sbin/amavisd-new[8000] : TROUBLE in pre_loop_hook: Transactions not supported by database at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 670." What's wrong?10:59
Healothe needs to dance Samba!10:59
SpCombJoshHendo: if it's windows shares you mean, then you can define what you mean with "unable to connect"10:59
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SpCombJoshHendo: please use the channel11:01
JoshHendoOk11:01
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SpCombI'm not familiar with ubuntu's windows networking, I'm just trying to get you to ask your question in such a way that someone may be able to answer...11:02
JoshHendoOk11:02
Blacklightis it possible to install windows after installing ubuntu?11:02
Panterahow would I correct this error E: Type 'http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/ubuntu' is not known on line 80 in s ource list /etc/apt/sources.list11:02
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SpCombJoshHendo: so you can ask whatever it was that you asked in the query in here11:02
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JoshHendoanyway, it comes up wiht "The folder contens could not be displayed. Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: <workgroup name>".11:02
thefishBlacklight: you could just use vmware server11:03
Blacklightno, but my other HDD has 13k songs on it, and it windows formatted, lol11:03
SpCombPantera: you need a "deb" as the first thing on the line11:03
Remyhey guys, does anyone know an fairly easy way of building GUIs for shell scripts?11:03
Remyany program / script language that it's easy to do in ?11:03
thefishJoshHendo: looks like an nmb issue, can you view them in konqueror with smb://windowspcname ?11:03
megasquidanyone know how I would configure ubuntu on my laptop to use an external monitor for display when I plug one in?11:03
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Remymegasquid - you shouldn't need to configure anything11:04
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Panteraso I would type deb sudo apt-get update11:04
Remymegasquid - it should pick it up automativally11:04
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thefishBlacklight: you can still read ntfs fairly easily on ubuntu if thats all you want to do11:04
SpCombBlacklight: NTFS? Linux can read that (and recently, it can also write it)11:04
JoshHendothefish: it came up with Timeout on server11:04
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RemySpComb - I haven't been able to get ubuntu to write to ntfs11:04
elTigrehi11:04
Remy!ntfs11:04
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:04
megasquidRemy: for some reason it doesn't, it only displays on my laptop screen11:04
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thefishJoshHendo: you can view them from other windows pcs? ie on windows1 view \\windows2 ?11:05
Remymegasquid - does your laptop keyboard have a button to switch the display from laptop monitor to external source ?11:05
JoshHendothefish: yes11:05
elTigreI have a new mp3 player that only stores data on an sd card11:05
Remyusually looks like two monitors in each other11:05
BrianGPantera: make sure the line in your sources.list is deb http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/ubuntu dapper main to your /etc/apt/sources.list htt:/wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardLinuxInstall11:05
Remy!fuse11:05
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse11:05
elTigrethis sd card isn't formatted11:05
JoshHendothefish: windows can view windows, but ubuntu cant view windows, and windows cant view ubuntu11:05
megasquidRemy: yeah I tried that, but it doesn't do anything11:05
Samuli^SpComb, writing to ntfs is strongly adviced against. Support is experimental from what I've heard.11:05
elTigreand I can't get, how to format this damn card...11:05
BrianGPantera: http:/wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardLinuxInstall11:05
Remymegasquid - I'm not sure then mate, that's all I have to do...11:05
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megasquidRemy: the other monitor will display things during boot, but when xwindows loads it loses signal11:06
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elTigrehow can I format an mp3 player memory card?11:06
thefishJoshHendo: do you have any firewall running on the ubuntu box? and have you installed samba and libsmbclient?11:07
Remymegasquid - could it be that you have a resolution / refresh rate set that the monitor can't handle ?11:07
PanteraBrianG now how would I go editing it11:07
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JoshHendothefish: I don't have a firewall, but I will try installing libsmbclient, assuming it doesn't come with samba, as I have samba installed11:07
BrianGsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:07
megasquidRemy, possibly I'll play with it11:07
thefishJoshHendo: samba is a server only11:08
Remydoes anyone know an fairly easy way of building GUIs for shell scripts?11:08
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Remyany program / script language that it's easy to do in ?11:08
elTigrehow can I format an mp3 player memory card?11:08
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RemyelTigre - what kind of card?11:08
ompaulRemy, there is zenity but you still need to be able to script shell11:08
MadpilotRemy, xen11:09
nargRemy: kdialog can do basic stuff11:09
Madpilotxenity,rather11:09
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RemyI can shell script... just never built GUIS for it11:09
elTigreSD memory card, "flash memory"11:09
elTigre1Gb11:09
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nargelTigre: is it really necessary to format it?11:09
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JoshHendothefish: libsmbclient appears to be installed11:09
ompaulzenity: Candidate: 2.14.3-0ubuntu111:09
Remythanks guys, I'll look into those options11:10
elTigreI don't know11:10
ompaulMadpilot, ^^11:10
elTigreI plugged in the mp3 player with the card in it11:10
nargelTigre: I doubt it is, what are you trying to do?11:10
BrianGPantera: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:10
elTigreand it won't show up11:10
elTigreanywhere11:10
Madpilotompaul, ah, I can't spell tonight - s/x/z ;)11:10
nargelTigre: does the card show up on the computer?11:10
SpCombRemy: it's possible using FUSE, but as Samuli said, it's very new and quite probably experimental11:10
Panterabriang does this look right then deb http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/ubuntu dapper main11:10
elTigrein the hard drives dialog there is a harddrive that is mentioned as mp3player but that's all11:11
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BrianGPantera: yes11:11
elTigreall my other usb devices are listed in the drive mount applet11:11
RemySpComb - yeah, just read that :)  Will try it out later11:11
elTigrebut not this mp3 player11:11
nargelTigre: can you open it?11:11
^sunny^how do I totally block an IP so my PC doesn't response to it in any way ? I use firestarter and I want to block an IP, so it cannot connect to any of my computer ports (80, 21 and 2222) Ho do I do that ?11:11
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elTigreI don't know how to open something that's not on the desktop or panel...11:11
elTigreI don't even know the devices block name for sure11:12
^sunny^can anyone help ?11:12
nargelTigre: in the file manager, try /media/sda111:12
BrianGPantera: save the file. then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install picard11:12
narg^sunny^: a firewall11:12
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elTigresda1 is my usb mass storage device11:12
^sunny^narg, I already use firestarter (which uses iptables)11:12
Remythen try sda211:12
nargok, try sda211:12
Remy:)11:12
elTigrethat thingy works, but it's a hard drive ;)11:12
^sunny^but it doesn't provide this option11:12
elTigrewith many partitions...11:13
nargelTigre: sda2 is a harddrive?11:13
nargelTigre: try sda3 then ;)11:13
^sunny^narg, can u help ?11:13
narg^sunny^: I know jack about firewalls :p11:13
PanteraBrianG thanks so much this is my first week on Ubuntu and loving it even problems like this end up being easy to solve compared to windows xp11:13
^sunny^what are the hosts.deny files and hosts.allow files ?11:13
nargelTigre: does /media/sda3 exist?11:14
BrianGPantera: :D11:14
BrianGPantera: picard is a sweet program too11:14
elTigreyes11:14
BrianGyou're welcome11:14
overridden^sunny^: "locate hosts.deny"11:14
narg^sunny^: hosts will let you block this computer from that one, it really what you want.11:14
narg^sunny^: *not really11:14
elTigrewhen I mount it in a console I  have to specify file system type, I tried vfat but "wrong fs or bad superblock"11:15
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^sunny^well, and it hosts.deny will block that IP for any kind of connection to my machine ?11:15
SpComb^sunny^: `man hosts.allow`11:15
^sunny^not only sshd ?11:15
BrianGPantera: if you need help with picard join #musicbrainz11:15
nargelTigre: what device are you trying to mount?11:16
martinvdkHow can I use my own drawn cursor, what file type should it be?11:16
elTigresda311:16
elTigrean mp3 player11:16
SpCombfirestarter may or may not provide a way to do that using hosts.deny11:16
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nargelTigre: this mp3 player can be used as a mass storage device, right?11:16
PanteraBrianG thanks so much I think I'll check that channel out11:16
elTigrethough the hard drives dialog thought the mp3player is sdb11:16
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SpComb^sunny^: those files are unlikely to control the firewall11:16
elTigreyes11:16
^sunny^SpComb, so if I use hosts.deny will this file deny any kind of connection made from that IP to my computer ?11:16
elTigresupposedly11:16
elTigreaccording to the manual11:16
SpComb^sunny^: no11:16
nargelTigre: ok, that's good at least ;)11:17
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^sunny^SpComb, but what will they deny ?11:17
SpCombinduvidual services11:17
nargelTigre: and we've established sda3 is the right device?11:17
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elTigreI don't know11:17
elTigreit exist11:17
elTigres11:17
elTigreand isn't mountable11:17
^sunny^SpComb, I want to block any kind of connection that an IP makes to my computer...I mean, I want to drop everything he sends to me11:17
nargelTigre: if you know sda2 isn't right, then we'll assume sda3 is11:17
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^sunny^SpComb, and I don't want to let that IP use any of the services provided by my computer11:18
SpComb^sunny^: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/policy-page.php11:18
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SpCombin other words, RTFM11:18
elTigreok11:18
nargelTigre: ok, one sec, looking something up11:18
SpComb^sunny^: that looks like what you want11:18
martinvdkHow can I use my own drawn cursor, what file type should it be?11:18
AWOSDevCan I use a terminal with my modem in Ubuntu?11:18
AWOSDeve.g. I want to type "ATI" or "AT1" ...11:19
Netcadhow to check how much disk space i got left on a machine?11:19
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Justin_NETabuse,  df -h11:19
Justin_Netcad, df -h11:19
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martinvdkNetcad:  applications -> system tools -> system monitor ;)11:20
nargelTigre: have you ever used this player before (do you know it works?)11:20
_masonGday All11:20
^sunny^SpComb, I can only see there that I can deny outbound connections to an IP, not inbound11:20
AWOSDevKind of like the HyperTerminal in Windows (if you've ever used that program)11:20
elTigreno I just received it via mail11:20
elTigrebut wait11:20
_masonIm looking for an application to record "wave" in ubuntu ?11:20
jm^_mason, g'day mate11:20
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elTigremysteriously something like mount /dev/sdb finally seems to go some place11:20
martinvdk_mason: audacity11:21
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AWOSDevIs there a way to do this?  I went through the whole "Communications" and "Networking" sections in Synaptic but didn't see anything11:21
nargelTigre: so sdb works?11:21
_masonThanks, ill check it out11:21
martinvdkaudacity.sourceforge.net/11:21
elTigrewait a moment11:21
_mason^ Wont apt-get work?11:21
elTigreit is mounted11:21
martinvdkmaybe :D11:21
elTigrebut i can't verify that it works11:21
elTigreyet11:21
Justin_test11:21
nargelTigre: cd /media/sdb; ls11:21
elTigrenothing in there11:22
elTigreoh it finally seems to work11:22
nargits new, that's to be expected11:22
nargso copy some files into it, and then attempt to use it. And hope it works.11:22
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AWOSDevAm I missing something?11:23
_masonUm, martinvdk, Audacity wont detect any audio hardware?11:23
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Samuli^what's the difference between ; and && in bash?11:23
elTigreit's goddamn slow but nautilus confirms a file in there now11:23
Justin_AWOSDev, Console - telnet ;D11:23
Justin_AWOSDev, What are you looking for exactly?11:24
Justin__mason, Audacity suckers11:24
nargSamuli^: && waits for the command to finish and places sure it returns 0 -- I believe11:24
narg*makes sure11:24
AWOSDevI want to talk to my modem.11:24
AWOSDev:)11:24
_masonI believe, $aoss audacity   is working11:24
Healotminicom11:24
_masonill be back if it doesnt :P11:24
Healotor just talk to it11:24
Justin__mason, Also make sure that you are not using your soundcard at the same time .. some cards cannot do that sort of thing under Linux11:24
AWOSDevMeaning, I want to say ATI11:25
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_masonOhh, no it is not11:25
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Justin_AWOSDev, Ok.. ok - have you marked all of the repositories?11:25
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Justin_AWOSDev, - system -> software properties, mark'em all.11:25
elTigrehmpf the mp3 player thinks there is no file11:25
MattRhodeshi, anyone know how to deal with rar archives in ubuntu?11:25
nargis it in the correct format?11:25
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elTigreI'm pretty sure11:26
elTigreI will try something else11:26
_masonHmm, thats not very usefull. Im recording audio from an application ( Wearetheweb.org ) in the hopes of putting it on my ipod, but if i can use the sound device i cant have anything playing to record?11:26
RizlaGromithi all.11:26
Justin_elTigre, Yeah that happens sometimes to me also - I believe it is an unsupported format, not a typical MP311:26
_masonany other apps bar audcaity?11:26
nargMattRhodes: apt-get install unrar11:26
MattRhodesnice one11:26
Samuli^MattRhodes, you can use command-line rar or the default archive manager. You just need to apt-get rar.11:26
Justin__mason, Ardour - if you can get jackD going ;)11:26
MattRhodescheers :):)11:26
_masonThats Justin_11:26
SpComb^sunny^: you could change the inbound policy to deny and then explicitly specifiying what's allowed11:26
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^sunny^SpComb, I want to allow all IPs but just deny one IP11:27
Justin__mason, Yeah - well Linux is not the best system for recording - I know I make music, and I still go to windows for that ---- unfortunately the audio software in Linux.. is about as sosphisticated as windows software was in 96.11:27
AWOSDevUh, I opened minicom, but my modem isn't on /dev/tty811:27
MattRhodestest@test-desktop:~$ apt-get install unrar11:27
MattRhodesE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)11:27
MattRhodesE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?11:27
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Justin_AWOSDev, ..tty8?11:28
Justin_ummm..11:28
nargMattRhodes: sudo apt-get install unrar11:28
Healot!root > MattRhodes11:28
_masonGahh, Well.. i do dual boot.. but i dread booting into windows nowdays.. ill work up the courage to record it in windows11:28
Justin_Unless you have a really special modem, most of the time modems are ttys0 ot ttys1..11:28
MattRhodesahh, cheers :)11:28
elTigreI'd really like to autoplug that thingy...11:28
elTigrelike any other usb device...11:28
AWOSDevJustin_ -- yes it tried to open /dev/tty811:28
_masonThis month marks my 9th month using Ubuntu!11:29
RizlaGromiti have a silly question. I just got my CD of 6.06. how do i install without booting into the live cd desktop?11:29
Justin__mason, Yeah same here - but fact of the matter is .. when it comes to music/home recording Linux is far far behind windows11:29
nargelTigre: sorry, I'd help you more, but its 4:30am here, so I've got to sleep. Nite.11:29
_masonas my desktop os11:29
Samuli^MattRhodes, your better of with rar-nonfree though.11:29
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elTigrethanks11:29
elTigrebye11:29
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_masonJustin_ And its a shame to11:29
Samuli^!rar11:29
MattRhodeseek: Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:29
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free11:29
MattRhodesThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:29
MattRhodesis only available from another source11:29
ravhi all11:29
Justin__mason, Yeah - but as a coding/network/work platform - Linux nails it11:29
_mason12 times over11:29
Healot!info unrar11:30
_mason:D11:30
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB11:30
nargits the system for a poweruser.11:30
Healot!multiverse11:30
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:30
Samuli^MattRhodes, You don't probably have right repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list11:30
Justin_The problem is no major audio software developers will port their project over if they are bugged constantly to release the source - I wish we could have soundforge, or cool edit on Linux11:30
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Justin_AWOSDev, Modems are ttysn11:30
Justin_AWOSDev, try ttys1 ttys0 and ttys211:31
AWOSDevJustin_, you and I know that, but minicom doesn't11:31
AWOSDevJustin_ I already know where my modem is: /dev/ttySHSF011:31
MattRhodesI think automatix might have overwritten my sources.list, even though I instructed it not to :(11:31
HealotAWOSDev: to what physical interface it is connected to?11:31
MattRhodesand I dont know what to do about that11:31
Justin_AWOSDev, What kind of modem do you have?11:31
Justin_I have never seen a modem all the way on ttys811:31
AWOSDevJustin_, Healot: It's an HSF (softmodem) so it doesn't really have a "physical interface"11:32
Justin_ahhh...11:32
Justin_That explains it :P11:32
AWOSDevJustin_ I said it was trying to open tty8 not ttyS811:32
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_masonThanks for your help Justin_ .. ill just record it in windows.11:32
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Justin__mason, Yeah better luck next year :P11:32
AWOSDevJustin_, I have the Linuxant drivers, and I can finally stat /dev/modem (YAY!) but nothing will use it11:32
Justin_Audacity, is like cool edit in 1996 hah :P11:32
AWOSDevJustin_ -- I actually have Cool Edit '96 :P11:33
AWOSDevJustin_ _mason, I like Audacity11:33
Justin_AWOSDev, Do you have tylenol available also? :P11:33
_masonSo good news for linux users with regard to flash 9 progress.. does anyone know when and if Macromedia Flash will be ported to linux?11:33
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Justin_AWOSDev, Yeah well for basic stuff its ok - but for actual song making etc - it sucks hard.11:33
Justin_It even lacks mix-pasting..11:34
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Justin__mason, Linux has flash :D11:34
Justin_7...11:34
Justin_:))11:34
AWOSDevJustin_ yeah, but it worked great transferring LPs to CDs though11:34
_masonFlash 7!11:34
nikinmanson_ if it deends on Adobe.. never..11:34
_masonThats the only reason windows is still on my pc!11:34
Justin_I wonder if someone will make a Flash clone someday....11:34
MattRhodesI think automatix might have overwritten my sources.list, even though I instructed it not to, which would explain why I cant get unrar, anyone know what to do about the sources.list11:34
larsemili have som problems with my swedish keyboardlayout. http://pastebin.ca/152983 is this part of xorg.conf ok?11:34
th3jamesits pretty easy to get firefox running thru wine with flash 9 thou11:34
Justin_MattRhodes, Automatix and Ubuntu are known to not play nice11:35
dmsantamwhat's a freemason?11:35
dmsantam!freemason11:35
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freemason - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:35
_masonth3james .. so just as easy to run Macromedia Flash 8 in wine?11:35
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AWOSDevOh I get it now11:35
ubuntuhello11:35
SpComb^sunny^: I would know how to do it with iptables, but I don't know about firestarter11:35
ubuntufyrestrtr:  r u there/11:35
AWOSDevtty8 is the shell I'm using :P11:35
Justin_dmsantam, men in a fraternity - highly involved in math - and must believe in a supreme being, if you want to know more -> ubuntu-offtopic11:35
th3jamesI never tried flash 8, i just know that i got flash 9 running without hiccup11:36
^sunny^SpComb, ok thank you anyway ;)11:36
nikin_manson the Flash 8 will not be ported to Linux asfar aas i know11:36
MattRhodesit wasnt known to me, although it is now, is there anything I can do to restore sources.list, I never made any backups like the rampant n00b I be :(11:36
nikinbut please say i ame wrong, Flash would be vital for me to11:36
_masonnikin.. well They Should!11:36
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dmsantamMattRhodes apt-setup11:36
AWOSDevJustin_ -- any way to tell minicom where to shove it's output?11:36
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dmsantamoh, maybe not on ubuntu grr11:36
MattRhodesthanks dmsantam11:37
ubuntuwhat was command to register nickname on irc?11:37
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dmsantamubuntu, /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password11:37
Justin_MattRhodes, -> settings - software - > synaptic -> refresh11:37
nikin_manson: why? i mean, they have their platforms, and Adobe is not the one who stands out for free software11:37
Justin_MattRhodes, -> settings - software properties select all  then - > synaptic -> refresh11:37
_masonI think its still all rumours at this point.. but theres a market for it.. they are only holding back because of DRM issues are they not?11:37
MattRhodesthanks Justin11:38
ubuntudmsantam: ty11:38
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_masonnikin who says it should be free, just run will make me happy11:38
_masoncross platform11:38
nikindmsantam: not /msg nickserv register nick?11:38
th3jameswhat we really need is an open source replacement for it, it sucks that such a large amount of the net relies on propriety technology11:38
Justin_I do not mind not having the newest flash, I block out most flash.. - its a pretty worthless tech... - except for google video and flash 7 sucks bad at google video11:38
dmsantamnikin oh, to register... oops :)11:38
Justin_th3james, I agree11:39
nikin_manson: i mean that they have maybe some agrement with Microsoft and Apple or so...11:39
dmsantamnikin i didn't know he meant register a new nick :)11:39
_mason.. thats because of us flash 7 users, the rendering technology has improved in what.. 10 year!11:39
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_mason'years11:39
ubuntunot sure it worked or not11:39
ubuntu:(11:39
_mason(i made 10 up.. just saying.. wish i had 911:39
MattRhodesJustin: where is the settings menu?11:39
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archaiosI assassinated Iosef Vissarionovich Stalin11:39
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Justin_MattRhodes, Oopsie sorry - I just woke up I meant "system" then software properties11:40
Justin_make sure they are all selected, then fire up synaptic - and click "refresh"11:40
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MattRhodescheers11:40
larsemilwhat could be wrong when the swedish keyboardlayout is working, but not the swedish characters?11:40
AWOSDevOkay I have a new modem problem11:40
AWOSDevCan anybody help me?11:40
Justin_AWOSDev, ? :S11:40
dibblegowhat is the correct way to get ssh-agent started at boot time? I can do it with eval "`ssh-agent`" in a rc script but I am not sure this is right11:41
nikin_mason IMHO i ame against flash, and videoadvertising on webpages... i ame a bitt oldschool, still using Flash5 when it is realy nescesarry... i ame realy affraid about that nowdays you need 2Ghz to see a f*kin webpage11:41
AWOSDevI can stat /dev/ttySHSF011:41
AWOSDevbut cannot echo or minicom to it11:41
AWOSDevcannot open /dev/ttySHSF0: No such device or address11:41
Justin_nikin :))11:41
MattRhodesJustin: there is nothing in my system menu for software properties, and nothing called synaptic11:41
Justin_Haha, yeah - I block out flash a lot like I said before, too much worthless stuff done with flash11:41
Samuli^larsemil, character set probably. Do they look fine to you, but crap to everyone else?11:41
Justin_The only useful thing I have ever seen flash being used for is google video11:41
AWOSDevBut there *is* such a device or address.11:42
MattRhodesJustin: actually, I take that back11:42
MattRhodesoops11:42
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larsemilSamuli^, nothing happens as i press the buttons.11:42
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^sunny^SpComb, can you please teach me how to add a rule to iptables that blocks that IP ?11:42
nikinFlash was in the begin a nice idea... and until the first MX it was almost usable... but nowdays.... i realy dont know.11:42
Justin_nikin, Well the thing with flash is it.. is sometimes overused..11:43
Justin_I like having a webpage with content rather then graphics..11:43
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AWOSDevSo what could be my problem?11:44
nikinJustin_:sometimes? .. better say allways... i can cont on one hand of mine how many well designed flash pages i have seen in the past 2 years11:44
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Justin_I mean when you have webpages that have higher system req's then the browser, thats bad. :))11:44
Samuli^larsemil, then it's your xorg.conf me thinks. It has not been configured to use the extra buttons. Try: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep XkbModel11:45
Samuli^        Option      "XkbModel" "pc105"11:45
AWOSDevI think I should clarify my problem.11:45
nikinJustin_ i agree... i mean webpages are designed to share information... i dont want the web become a TV..11:45
Samuli^The last line should've not been there :)11:45
_masonnikin, Yeah the cpu strain is something to keep in mind... and its growing to be a problem, But i have a soft spot for a well designed site (not really content wise) and, Css and or Flash is key!11:45
nikinjustin_ but lets stop.. its offtopic :D11:45
_masonOk ok11:46
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Justin_nikin, You make a good point - should only the people that can afford top of the line systems be able to access information on the web?11:46
Justin_nikin :)) true11:46
AWOSDevI installed the Linuxant drivers.  Before that I did not have a /dev/modem or /dev/ttySHSF0.  Now I do.  I can stat them, and they are in ls.  But when I try to, for example, "echo ATI > /dev/modem" or run minicom, it says "No such device or address".11:46
spiekeyhello.11:46
_masonGood Day!11:46
spiekeyi have upgraded from sarge to dapper and now my md0 device is "gone"11:46
RMorris85i need help with my screen resolutions... I have had 1280x800 on my laptop before and when i install draper i ended up with only 1024x768 and I would like to be able to get it back up, andyone point me in the right direction?11:46
Andyompaul: Hey ompaul i got success with the network11:46
spiekeyi can still mount the single disks with "mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt"11:47
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Justin_RMorris85, What driver did you have installed before?11:47
ompaulAndy, good stuff, slowly but surely you get there11:47
Samuli^RMorris85, you need to add that resolution to your xorg.conf11:47
RMorris85well before im talking about windows lol11:47
Justin_RMorris85, You can change your res's in your xorg - or "system" access11:47
spiekeywhy wont dapper find my md0 anymore? raidtab is unchange11:47
spiekeywhy wont dapper find my md0 anymore? raidtab is unchanged11:47
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SpComb^sunny^: iptables -A INPUT -s <ip> -j REJECT11:47
SpComb^sunny^: it'll go away after a reboot11:47
RMorris85justin_ i did change the xorg and it never showed up in admin / screen resoulutions11:48
^sunny^SpComb, -A or -I ?11:48
nikin_manson: i stopped webdesigning about 2 years ago.. i ame a designer.. and those are not nedded yet... everyone has a portal, even if he has no info to share, or a Flash based ionteractive fiction of 10+ megs with about one A4 pages of info11:48
Justin_RMorris85, Ahh - well windows drivers and Linux not the same - but edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf - and add the resolution, see if that works for you.11:48
SpCombappend should be fine...11:48
Urikuhey, how can I read linux HDs from winXP?11:48
Justin_RMorris85, Then most likely your Linux driver cannot handle it11:48
spiekeymdadm: cannot open /dev/md0: No such file or directory11:48
_masonnikin its 'Mason" :P11:48
spiekeywhat/who created /dev/md0 ?11:48
RMorris85Justin_ no way around this?11:49
Justin_For instance I have higher res in Linux then I can in windows - windows limits me to 1024x768 - Linux I can get up to 200011:49
nikin_mason: sry11:49
Justin_RMorris85, Google for new drivers .. that's about it.11:49
Justin_or write a new driver :P11:49
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_masonSize is not normally an issue.. Id blame it on a poorly designed website! :P11:49
_masonFlash compression is quite impressive11:49
Healotwhat size :)11:49
AWOSDevAll I want to do is "ATI; ATD 8351220".  That's *it*.  Is that so hard?11:50
SpCombspiekey: `mdadm --assemble` your raid array? It should autodetect it though....11:50
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Justin_Nikin, - You really despise flash don'tcha? lol11:50
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Urikuhow do I read\write in Linux Hard Drives\partitions from Microsoft's Windows XP?11:50
_masonJustin_ I think it beat him as a child :P11:51
MattRhodesJustin: I did what you said, it downloaded all the packages except the last one http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)11:51
^sunny^SpComb, I tried that but thet IP can still connect to the services I run on my ports (21, 80 and 2222)11:51
AWOSDevI'm sorry I'm being such a pest.  I hate being a pest.  But I've got a hurricane that will be here in less than 18 hours and I need the modem to work before then!11:51
Justin__mason,  :)) well flash does suck though..11:51
AWOSDevOtherwise I would be waiting patiently as always.11:51
th3jamesdoes anyone know of any open source project to do with flash? i thort i heard something a couple of months ago, but that may have been day dreaming11:51
MattRhodesJustin: so I still cant apt-get unrar :(11:51
_masonJustin_ Pfft, to each his own.. but flash brings in the money11:51
azathothth3james: there's supposed to be an open source version of flash being made11:51
Justin_MattRhodes, That's ok - you do not need all of them, only about 4 are loaded at default and you still have like 50,000 choices ;)11:51
_masoncivil folk dont know the difference11:51
spiekeySpComb: mdadm -A /dev/md0 --> mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such file or directory11:51
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nikinJustin_ i just see like that: if you make a cake then it will not become better if you put in about 2kg of sugar11:52
_masonazathoth, Really? tell me more11:52
_masonThats interesting11:52
MattRhodesJustin: I think I might have screwed up my install, maybe its time to reformat and start again, and not use autofuckyoursystemupix next time11:52
Justin_nikin, :)) I agree with you - I also do not like where the net is heading flash wise11:52
Justin_except for google video, I like that idea11:52
AWOSDev!language11:52
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:52
^sunny^SpComb, so this means there's no way of rejecting incoming from an IP but at the same time allowing outgoing packets to that IP ?11:52
MattRhodessorry11:52
Justin_ubotu, botsnack11:53
ubotuYum!11:53
Urikuthough... now there's this SVG thing11:53
SpComb^sunny^: then you must have some other rules in INPUT that allow that ip11:53
AWOSDevAw, is the little bot hungry?  :)11:53
_masonJustin_  If you immediately knew the candle light was fire then the meal was cooked a long time ago.11:53
Justin_MattRhodes, :)) - naw no need to do that ... some repositories are busy thats all11:53
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nikinbtw.. i have to go now, have some work to do... CUl8R11:53
SpCombspiekey: mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb ...11:53
Justin_nikin, later11:53
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_masonSeya all11:54
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MattRhodesJustin: thats good to hear, so what do you think is up with sudo apt-get install unrar?11:54
AWOSDevBye _mason and nikin11:54
_masonThanks anyway Justin_11:54
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_masonBye AWOSDev11:54
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AWOSDevSo Justin_ -- is my modem just completely cooked?  Cooked like the 150+ degree Fahrenheit chip that it is?11:55
hikenboothello all-- can anyone recommend where there is a list of functionally unncessary packages in ubuntu 6.0.6 live cd..for instance open office I found a comprehensive list for knoppix just looking for one for ubuntu...11:55
spiekeySpComb: http://pastebin.ca/15299711:55
spiekeySpComb: i dont want to touch my 2nd device yet since its mirrored and i can still access it. i dont want loose data11:56
Justin_AWOSDev, It could be - but more then likely it is because your modem is a retard, and by retard I mean lombotomized - lacking chips...11:56
Justin_But it has been a while since I have played around with dial-up modems, so I couldnt say11:56
AWOSDevI would like a better modem, but there's a probelm11:57
AWOSDev*problem11:57
Justin_AWOSDev, ?11:57
th3jamesquick bit of googling with regard to OSS flash produced this http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/11:57
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AWOSDevwhen the power goes out for 7 days, an externally-powered modem won't exactly work (e.g. Frances, Jeanne, Katrina, Rita, Wilma, and now Ernesto -- unwelcome tourists to Florida :P )11:57
Healotuse serial modem11:57
AWOSDevHealot, read above11:57
SpCombspiekey: dunno then, mdadm should be able to create it...11:58
Justin_AWOSDev, ahhh true11:58
AWOSDevMy Desktop PC has a softmodem that works; heck I'd just use that if I *HAD POWER*...11:58
AWOSDevI forgot Charley and Ivan in that list too :)11:58
aLPHa_LeaK moin11:59
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jhbhi *. Is there a way to have ubuntu dapper reconfigure the sound? As in dpkg-reconfigure ...?11:59
AWOSDevSince '04 we've been hit by 7 (about to be 8) hurricanes.11:59
AWOSDevThis is the first one with Linux11:59
Justin_th3james, Nice I never heard about this project before11:59
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Justin_AWOSDev, I would say it is time to move :P12:00
th3jameslooks like its pretty early in dev, but its something we really need IMO12:00
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usuariooloa12:00
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rugbythomasYou have 1 broken package on your system! Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.12:00
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rugbythomashow do i do this12:00
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usuariohellow12:01
Justin_th3james, Yeah well if nikin is right and the net becomes more like television and only flash can play the pages - it will be a dark day for information.12:01
Dimensionshi any one around to help me connecting me to the internet with gprs modem of my phone ?12:01
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th3jamesJustin_ i couldent agree more12:01
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Justin_Speaking of dark day, im away from Gnome and KDE for that very reason - they are close to having "registries" now .. and you all know that the registry is the first step towards software control....12:01
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th3jamesJustin_ what are you using then?12:02
AWOSDevJustin_ I'm already looking to move to near Portland, Oregon -- as far away as possible :P12:02
th3jameslol12:02
AWOSDevWell I best be off to download the new coordinates to my storm tracker12:03
AWOSDevwhich BTW they don't have one for Linux -- I'm having to use DOSemu >:x12:03
Justin_th3james, XFCE and ICEWM12:03
AWOSDevGoodbye!12:03
Justin_AWOSDev,  lol12:03
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Justin_be safe :P12:03
AWOSDevOkay I'll try my best -- already have the storm shutters up12:04
AWOSDevBye!  and wish me and my poor poor car luck!12:04
Justin_we will12:04
AWOSDev(yes I said car -- during last year she almost got totalled)12:04
XxXBrAnDoNXxXAnyone know what bot moniters this channel?12:04
th3jamesJustin_ i havent heard anything about e17 in ages, all the chatter died out when XGL +Compiz came along...12:04
AWOSDevWell bye anyway12:04
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AWOSDevfor real this time :)12:04
th3jamesbye12:05
Justin_Compiz =)) *rolls*12:05
Justin_laster AWOSDev12:05
XxXBrAnDoNXxX!ati12:05
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:05
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Justin_Compiz is the most useless thing I have ever seen in my life12:05
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Justin_To each his own, but I could not comprehend how this "compiz" could make my work easier :P12:05
AckeeeHeeey my bro told me redhat is the biggest linux distro. is that true?12:05
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Justin_Ackeee, I would say SUSE is12:05
Justin_SUSE is like what 10 cd's and growing?12:06
th3jamesits not about making work easier, its about competing with eye candy from Apple and Microsoft, and drawing in new users12:06
opexochow can I change *.rmvb format of movie to *.avi for example ?12:06
Urikuwhat can read ext hard drives from Windows XP well?12:06
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Justin_th3james, lol... well what is going to be even more hilarious - is that when Vista shows off its "3d" ability - it will be hailed as a "innovation"12:06
ompaul!offtopic12:07
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:07
Justin_Heck the new MacOS is calling multiple desktops "new and innovative"12:07
Uriku#ubuntu-offtopic12:07
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asdasddhi, someone can help my?12:08
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Justin_asdasdd, Depends what is your problem?12:08
spiekeySpComb: i got it running so far, but i am not sure if its all well and clean: http://pastebin.ca/15300612:08
th3jamesi think the cube really helps users with the idea of visualising multiple desktops, it amazed me how many people cram all their stuff into one desktop12:08
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asdasddsorry if my inglis is bad, i'm spanish...12:08
MattRhodesJustin: sudo apt-get install unrar gives error message test@test-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install unrar12:08
MattRhodesPassword:12:08
MattRhodesReading package lists... Done12:08
MattRhodesBuilding dependency tree... Done12:08
MattRhodesPackage unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:08
MattRhodesThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:08
MattRhodesis only available from another source12:08
MattRhodesE: Package unrar has no installation candidate12:08
MattRhodestest@test-desktop:~$        Any ideas?12:08
ompaulpaste12:08
ompaul!paste12:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:08
spiekeyActive Devices : 1 --> why only one? i should have two, shouldnt i?12:08
ompaul!es12:09
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:09
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Justin_th3james, hehe12:09
Ludobonjour, je passe juste pour vous dire que hier a a march pour ceux qui m'ont aid, un grand merci  tous !!12:09
gnomefreak!fr12:09
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:09
spiekeylol12:09
asdasddi've install ubuntu 6.06, and XGL12:09
asdasddbut12:09
Ludoah excuse me12:09
Ludobye12:09
Uriku!he12:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about he - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:09
asdasddi can't install12:09
Uriku...12:09
Justin_MattRhodes, You have to manually download RAR/UNRAR - it is not available from synaptic/aptget12:09
asdasddcompiz...12:09
ompaulasdasdd, this is not a xgl support channel that is #ubuntu-xgl thanks12:09
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asdasddok sorry12:10
Justin_asdasdd, Oh I see12:10
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th3jamesJustin_ you said that gnome and KDE are moving towards having registries, could you elaborate on that a bit more, u have me worried12:11
ompaul!repos > MattRhodes12:11
SpCombspiekey: the other one has been removed from the device... perhaps because you have it mounted?12:11
ompaulMattRhodes, please read the message from the bot12:11
Justin_th3james, Well yeah if you look a bit more on google a lot of people are worried - they even haev projects called "kde registry" going, and the way KDE is keeping track of software on your system etc12:11
Urikucan you please help me to allow reading and writing access to my Linux Hard Drive from Windows XP?12:11
spiekeySpComb: its not mounted. but i did do some minor changed on hdd and not on hdc. so they are not exactly sync12:12
Justin_Remember how microsoft told us first the registry, was to make life easier - so we could have programs in order etc?12:12
ompaulthejames, Justin_ I fail to see how that is a ubuntu support issue please move to #ubuntu-offtopic12:12
Justin_Well from that came DRM and all this other control12:12
AckeeeUriku ill give you  2 apps12:12
Justin_Yeah ompaul your right12:12
th3jameswell thats just fantastic, looks like im off 2 fluxbox...12:12
AckeeeExt2IFS_1_10b12:12
Urikuthank you Ackeee12:12
spiekeySpComb: is there a way to force a disk into my array and to sync it?12:12
AckeeeFreeOTFE_01_60_0012:12
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Uriku!il12:13
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AckeeeUriku:  got those?12:13
ompaulUriku, that would be install some software on your non windows box12:13
billypHi, I've compiled a game OK using make. ( doesn't have a configure script) When I then try 'make install', I get the error " No rule to make target `install'".  I'm not specifying a target because I didn't think it necessary. Any ideas?12:13
Urikuwhere can I find those?12:13
Justin_billybennett, You need a configure file12:13
Justin_billybennett, Your sure there is not one? - possibly named something other then "configure" ?12:13
UrikuUriku, that would be install some software on your non windows box <~~~ what?12:14
ompaulUriku, no idea at all, I would check out sourceforge and see if you can find something for windows there12:14
Uriku...12:14
AckeeeUriku: openOTFE wasnt a app like that. sryu12:14
Justin_try ./filename - on all green filenames in the directory from a term12:14
^sunny^when I scan my localhost wity nmap it appears that CUPS listens on 631. I did not install CUPS. How do I remove CUPS from my system ?12:14
billypJustin: well , I ran that in the folder & it didn't fnd anything. Will look harder...12:14
ompaul^sunny^, question, do you use a printer?12:14
^sunny^ompaul, no I don't12:15
SpCombspiekey: perhaps mdadm /dev/md0 --re-add /dev/hdb12:15
SpCombspiekey: you can also try using the --force12:15
Justin_billybennett, Look in console - all the files that appear bright green12:15
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Dimensionscan some one help me in a problem regarding gprs modem connection via cell phone ??12:15
^sunny^ompaul, Ubuntu just installed CUPS without asking me....how can I remove it ?12:15
Urikubash: cannot find the force.     damn non jedic system :P12:15
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ompaul^sunny^, it would be better to turn it off than remove it, /etc/init.d/cupsys stop12:15
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ompaul^sunny^, it would be better to turn it off than remove it, /etc/init.d/cupsys stop12:16
^sunny^ompaul, why not remove it ?12:16
^sunny^I don't use any kind of printer12:16
ompaul^sunny^, for upgrade purposes12:16
^sunny^upgrade to what ? I will never buy printer :P12:17
ompaulnext version of ubuntu12:17
spiekeymdadm /dev/md0 --re-add /dev/hdb1  ? or hdb?12:17
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^sunny^ompaul, ok so how can I make it not start at system bootup anymore ?12:17
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Urikuwell, flash me if you find anythign12:17
Urikuanything*12:17
ompaul^sunny^, if you are using the gui the best tool is "bum" boot up manager12:18
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spiekeySpComb: mdadm /dev/md0 --re-add /dev/hdb1  ? or hdb?12:18
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^sunny^ompaul, and if I use only commandline, how do I disable it ?12:19
kholerabbicould someone tell me a command that will launch a new terminal and run a command in it?? (e.g; "terminal <command")12:19
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whazillahey12:20
Serendibhello12:20
whazillagot ubuntu probs installing xgl12:20
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whazillathe prob is libc612:20
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whazillai need newer version ...12:20
whazillahow do i do that ?12:20
Madpilotwhazilla, #ubuntu-xgl for xgl issues12:20
whazillait's a libc6 isuue12:21
whazillaso ubunti issue ?12:21
KenSentMewhazilla: ubuntu-xgl is also ubuntu12:21
whazillai got hedgehog12:21
SerendibI have a question about the distro itself... I will be using the machine for mostly c/opengl development, can I install that out of the box or am I going to need to do a manual install?12:21
gnomefreakWhatsisname: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade12:21
whazillahow do i update libc6 ?12:21
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gnomefreakWhatsisname: look up12:22
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gnomefreakdamnit12:22
billypJustin: can't see a configure script anywhere. I have a makefile, an executable and various folders12:22
Justin_whazilla, #ubuntu-xgl12:22
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KenSentMewhazilla: if you have hoary then maybe you should update to dapper drake12:22
whazillather idle ther12:22
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whazillai said hi12:22
gnomefreakwhazilla: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade if that doesnt update your libc6 than i wouldnt try12:22
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Justin_billyp, Well you cannot use a make file without a config of what to make - so either you did not read the instructions, or your pack is lacking files - or it's already compiled and its a messy packaging job12:23
kholerabbiwhazilla:::::::: its probably best if you get dapper, but in the meanwhile use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"12:23
gnomefreakwhazilla: since you are trying to get xgl/compiz working you do belong in #ubuntu-xgl12:23
whazillanope12:23
kholerabbi@kick whazilla12:23
kholerabbihehe12:23
whazillai'm trying to update libc612:23
hikenbootanyone know where there is a list of packages that can safely be removed from 6.0.6 and still have a functional live cd..example openoffice12:23
gnomefreakwhazilla: what does uname -r say12:23
kaydewhat is the apt get code to download/install wine??12:24
whazillakk12:24
Justin_hiken, What does open office have to do with the live cd method?12:24
kholerabbikayde: winehq.com12:24
Justin_:P12:24
phanterhey there, little problem with my dapper laptop. It seems that my / is full, but I do not knwo how or with what. How can I find out and what could (in general) be the the cause?12:24
kholerabbikayde: use there dapper repos12:24
archaiosexcept he is tight12:24
archaioskholerabbi: their12:24
Justin_Hiken, as long as you do not play with basic libs and X - the live cd will be ok if you stripped it bare of apps12:24
whazilla2.6.10-6-38612:24
whazillauname -r12:24
gnomefreakwhazilla: you need to update to dapper12:25
hikenbootI am rebuilding a ubuntu live cd and want to remove extraneous packages that are in it to make room for my own packages12:25
Justin_phanter, a file manager?12:25
whazillais ther an updater online ?12:25
kaydekholerabbi: ok :)12:25
kholerabbiarchaios: where?12:25
gnomefreakwhzthe libc6 that is in dapper will work with xgl12:25
archaioshikenboot: "that are in it" is superfluous12:25
kholerabbikayde: s'allright12:25
archaioshikenboot: do not use tautological constructs12:25
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archaioskholerabbi: "alright"12:25
phanterJustin_: what do you mean?12:25
gnomefreak!upgrade > whazilla12:25
archaiosor "all right"12:25
gnomefreakwhazilla: please read your pm12:25
whazillai know gnomefreak but is ther a updater from hedge to dapper ?12:25
Justin_phanter, Same as windows go through your files and right click properties - figure out what is using your space12:25
XxXBrAnDoNXxXDoes anyone know where I can get a copy of ubotu or somthing similar?12:26
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gnomefreakwhazilla: you have to update to breezy than dapper12:26
Justin_Phanter.. file manager you know .. konq,nautilus,thunar etc12:26
hikenbootyou are trying to tell me you dont understand what I mean?12:26
archaiosWhatsisname: I, there, no space between words and punctuation12:26
Lynourephanter: do    du    and look at the usages12:26
billyp%C8Justin: Right. The instuctions were sparse & the forums seemed to have a lot of questions from people who obviously knew what they were doing & yet still had problems. I'll manage with it as is. Thanks12:26
kholerabbiarchaios: nope. "s'allright" double-L because I am talking in Modern Old English and I am simply joining the words "all" and "right" :P12:26
archaioshikenboot: "don't"12:26
whazillathkx gnomefreak12:26
archaioskholerabbi: then it would be "s'all'right"12:26
phanterJustin_: there are nice and handy tools for windows to ease the proces (not that I ever used any), are there any for linux?12:26
whazillaallso wanted to know12:26
Justin_Hiken, GO crazy with it - as long as you keep the basic libs and x in shape no prob12:26
archaioskholerabbi: all contractions involving removal of space require an apostrophe12:26
whazillawhat is best way to backup a linux ?12:26
gnomefreak!backup12:26
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi12:26
whazillathkx12:27
archaioskholerabbi: but the more correct way would be 's'all right12:27
Justin_phanter, It does not get any easier then .. file managers12:27
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hikenbootI can generate a very long list of packages that are included with ubuntu 6.0.6 many are not necessary for the basic function of the cd I need a list of ones that fit this bill...for instance Openoffice.org is on the cd and the cd will work without it ] 12:27
archaiosJustin_: than12:27
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Justin_archaios, than then12:27
phanteroke, but the strange thing is that it must have filled up tin the last week and I do not know why/how?12:27
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kholerabbiarchaios: no, the s was simply for sound effects :P12:28
Teh_wrk1n|DogDEBIAN FTW!!!!!!!!12:28
archaiosphanter: okay, in, the question mark is unnecessary12:28
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Teh_wrk1n|DogAll: sorry had to get that out12:28
archaioskholerabbi: the "'s'" is a contraction of "it's" which is in itself a contraction of "it is"12:28
Teh_wrk1n|Dog:)12:28
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manmadhahow to connect to the brodband (using telephone net)12:28
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archaioskholerabbi: it is an exclusively Australian usage12:28
archaiosi.e. idiomatic speech12:29
kholerabbiarchaios: Grammar is defined by its use. I am speaking colloquially and thus correctly12:29
archaioskholerabbi: I am not saying it is wrong12:29
AckeeeUriku: if you want to read or write to a linux drive i would use ltools. but if you want to mount the linux drives in windows id use the other app i told you bout12:29
archaiosI'm explaining its etymology12:29
Serendibcan i burn a CD iso to a DVD by extracting the cd iso contents to a folder, then making a bootable data dvd with the same contents?12:29
kholerabbiarchaios: indeed it is not exclusively Australian, as its in Harry Potter12:29
Lynourephanter: it's easier to find out the cause once you know what got huge12:29
kholerabbiwhois: archaios12:29
archaioskholerabbi: it originated in Australia12:29
archaioskholerabbi: I assure you12:29
kholerabbihmmph12:30
archaioskholerabbi: read any dictionary of etymology12:30
kholerabbiwhat is the whois command?12:30
manmadhacan any one tell how to connect to internet through telephone??12:30
archaioskholerabbi, /whois12:30
gnomefreakguys stay on topic please12:30
kholerabbithanks12:30
UrikuAckeee: where can I find Ext2IFS_1_10b?12:30
kholerabbiaha so you are Australian12:30
KenSentMe!modem > manmadha12:30
Madpilotkholerabbi & archaios - could you take the English/grammar discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM please?12:30
Ackeeehttp://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm12:30
archaioskholerabbi: as are you12:30
Urikuthanks12:30
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Urikubut it doens't have capability12:31
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Urikuwrite*12:31
kholerabbiwell perhaps you're right about the contraction of it's into 's' but it's always hard to tell where something comes from12:31
Urikuwrite capability12:31
manmadhaKenSentMe, how to connect to it?????12:31
Serendibanyone have an answer to my question?12:31
archaiosMadpilot: my apologies, dear fellow, but I am merely attempting to expedite the usage of the Queen's English12:31
gnomefreakkholerabbi: join #ubuntu-offtopic12:31
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kholerabbiMadpilot: oo, sorry, I thought I was on -offtopic :), don't know what I'm doing here12:31
kholerabbignomefreak: ^^12:31
gnomefreaksaw12:31
AckeeeUriku: www.fs-driver.org/ NEWER version12:31
Uriku^^;12:32
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Urikubut it doesn't have utf8 suppose12:32
Urikusupport12:32
aptitudeirc://irc.irdsi.net/kaos12:32
whazillaso i need 2 download 2 cd's gnomefreak12:32
fnozzkespreadsheet can be used in ubuntu?12:32
AckeeeUriku: yeah it is probably true12:32
KenSentMemanmadha: at the bottom there's a part called 'Configuring the dialup connection to your provider'12:32
gnomefreakwhazilla: no12:32
whazillaone being badger and one dapper12:32
AckeeeUriku: then i would use LTools. or at least have a look at it. and see if it works12:32
whazillathen i don't get it how i update o012:33
^sunny^What clients of DC++ do you know for Linux ? Other that LinuxDC++ ....... ?12:33
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whazillagksudo "update-manager -d" this then ?12:33
manmadhaKenSentMe, but i am using broadband.....not dial up connection12:33
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gnomefreakwhazilla: the shortest easiest way for you to upgrade is burn a dapper 6.06.1 iso burn it and install cleanly12:33
archaiosKenSentMe... ah, the days of LSL112:33
archaios;)12:33
gnomefreakwhazilla: no dont use that command12:33
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whazillawhy not ?12:33
whazillais dist still broken ?12:34
KenSentMemanmadha: ah, ok. You said telephone in your question12:34
KenSentMearchaios: :)12:34
ompaul^sunny^, work gets in the way of irc :) console install and use rcconf12:34
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gnomefreakwhazilla: change the repos to point to breezy instead of hoary than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:34
manmadhaKenSentMe, ya12:34
manmadhaKenSentMe, how to connect??12:34
gnomefreakwhazilla: when that is dont do the same using dapper instead of breezy12:34
gnomefreaks/dont/done12:34
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Urikumeh, I'll use that fs-drivers program12:35
Urikuthanks12:35
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Uriku:)12:35
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=== gnomefreak finds it easier to download the iso and install it that way because if it fails you have a backup of your system(if you make one) than you also have a backup disk
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AckeeeUriku: tell me about the issues. I dont get it with the Utf-8 thingy12:37
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Lynourephanter: How is it going?12:37
Uriku^^; well it said that it did not support utf8 in it,12:37
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Urikuand I heard that there are problems with it,12:38
Urikuspecificly with non-english characaters12:38
phanterLynoure: just did the du, imported into oo.org calc and sorted it. now checking the result. no progres yet12:38
whazillagnomefreak12:38
whazillaChange your repositories to look for Breezy (open menu Settings/Repositories and Edit each source to change "hoary" to "breezy")12:38
Urikuerr... I shouldn't mount the swap partition right?12:38
whazillai can't find this12:38
whazillai got a diff language setup12:38
whazillawher do i find that ?12:38
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Lynourephanter: usually the culprit is in /var12:39
whazillathers no settings nor less repositories12:39
UrikuAckeee: should I mount the swap partition?12:39
phanteroke, i'll check that first12:39
JimmeyWhen using vnc viewer, can I opt to see the vnc server's screen on a smaller scale?12:40
tn3270phanter : can shortcut the process using find / -size +10000k -mtime -7 or something like that12:40
ompaulwhazilla, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list << --- in there, but before you do know this, you should do >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< before you update - the upgrades work "ubuntu to ubuntu" not "some changed ubuntu to some changed ubuntu"12:40
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whazillai did that thkx12:41
whazillaneeded the gedit or nano line12:41
soundrayJimmey: no, but you can start another VNC server with a smaller screen. Use e.g. -geometry 640x48012:41
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Jimmeysoundray, ahh. Could I kill the current VNC server a restart it with that option?12:43
ompaulwhazilla, and before you start I very very strongly advice that you actually just get the dapper CD (download it) and be done with it - if your connection is slow or intermittent then use bittorrent to get it it can resume - because you will be stepping to breezy and onto dapper less downloads, that is all the advice I can give you on that12:43
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ompaul^sunny^, did you get that last thing I said12:43
DimensionsHiya... is it possible to bind wget with a download link for softwares and put it into cron on reboot or at specified time it should download some softwares12:43
soundrayJimmey: yes, if you have access to it. Use vncserver -kill :1 (or whatever the correct screen number is)12:44
ompaulDimensions, you could or you could make a script of it and have cron call the script12:44
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^sunny^ompaul, no I did not12:44
ompaul^sunny^, work gets in the way of irc :) console install and use rcconf12:44
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kayd1i need help with installing a theme...12:44
Urikudon't I need to reboot before using the Ext2 thingy for windows?12:44
Dimensionsompaul: if i make a tcl script how can i add the line to get a link with wget ?12:44
^sunny^ompaul, I don't understand what you mean :)12:44
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phanterI just found the problem.12:44
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ompaul^sunny^, to stop and start start up services at the console, go and install and use >>rcconf <<12:45
^sunny^oh yeah :) ok12:45
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drickhello guys12:45
kayd1heya12:45
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adrakoahi12:45
phanterI have installed 2 backup programs lately (hubackup and sbackup) one of them made a backup of my /home on my /var (thanks for the tip). I cannot remember giving the order for doing that. I will have a better look at it later :) thanks for help12:46
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ompaulDimensions, don't know tcl but if you have the address of the script you can get cron to call it12:46
drickdoes anyone know how to uninstall enlightenment dr17? i compiled it from source.. and dont know how to uninstall it... sorry for the newbie question...12:46
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ompaul!checkinstall12:46
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.12:46
gnomefreakisnt it make uninstall12:47
ompaulgnomefreak, your right (1 - 1)12:47
gnomefreakunless you installed it with checkinstall12:47
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dricki think i did a make install12:47
gnomefreakdrick: did you use the script to build from cvs?12:48
drickno... it didnt work...12:48
gnomefreakyeah i figured as much12:48
gnomefreakdrick: how did you install it12:48
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drickso i do a make uninstall?12:49
adrakoawhen i run enemy  territory, i have a black screen and only sound ...  my graphics card i810,  glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering: Yes12:49
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Lynourephanter: sounds likely to be circular linkage, then12:49
adrakoai try with a lot of resolution and depht..12:49
gnomefreakdrick: i need to know the commands to be sure but sudo make uninstall should work.12:49
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ompaulgnomefreak, your right12:50
drickgnomefreak: thanks for the advice man, much appreciated...12:50
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ompaulgnomefreak, can you test something for me12:50
gnomefreakompaul: yep if for edgy atm12:50
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ompaulgnomefreak, well given you have a "box to break ;-)"12:50
ompaulI'll msg it12:50
gnomefreakalways ;)12:50
Lynourephanter: many backup systems try to be smart and guess what you want, sometimes with bad results12:51
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ompaulgnomefreak, you got a test :)12:51
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phanterLynoure, I see :). I think I'll help in the hubackup development then, maybe I can do some good there :) hahaha, thanks for help12:52
gnomefreakompaul: will start building something small ;)12:52
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ompaulgnomefreak, something from the back end of universe - oneko or some such12:53
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phanterLynoure: hmm, it is not in hubackup, but in sbackup12:53
gnomefreakompaul: you have a link to that?12:53
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ompaulgnomefreak, I will get it now12:54
gnomefreakty12:54
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ompaulgnomefreak, too hard do a hello world :-)12:55
whazillak next prob12:55
gnomefreaklol im doing it no12:55
gnomefreaknow12:55
whazillahow do i make ubuntu mnt my ntfs ?12:55
whazillaread/write ?12:55
ompaul!ntfs > whazilla12:55
ompaulwhazilla, read the message from ubotu12:55
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drickgnomefreak: dude, where should i type the "sudo make uninstall" command?12:56
drickwhich directory?12:56
ompauldrick, in the one you typed make install12:56
whazilla!fuse12:56
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:56
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops12:57
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gnomefreakin the directory that tar -xvzf made12:57
Lynourephanter: Giving feedback to the developers is always good12:57
gnomefreakdrick: the same one you type ./configure in12:57
drickompaul, thanks dude12:57
gnomefreakompaul: works12:57
drickgnomefreak: thanks too...12:57
gnomefreakyw drick12:57
ompaulgnomefreak, change the factoid :)12:57
muhammadheey som1 played with my ubuntu and changed the permission for sudo and had this message in terminal sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 012:57
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muhammadwhat shall i do !!12:58
gnomefreakwhat one12:58
muhammada friend of me :s12:58
ompaulmuhammad, that was no friend12:58
muhammadso what he was !12:58
mwemuhammad: change it back12:59
ptenfhi all, does anybody know a backport of spamassassin for ubuntu 6.06? Alot of spam catching, especially new spam,  depends on the spamassassin package to pretty much up to date!12:59
KenSentMemuhammad: restart ubuntu in recovery mode and do chown root.root /etc/sudoers12:59
gnomefreakompaul: what fact?12:59
ompaulmuhammad, as the machine reboots, press escape, choose recovery and cd to the directory and do chown root:root /etc/sudoers12:59
adrakoawhazilla, man fstab12:59
ompaulgnomefreak, checkinstall12:59
gnomefreakty12:59
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muhammadoke i will now12:59
muhammadi wont tell any1 after now my passwd :S01:00
ompaulgnomefreak, not sure what to put in there - maybe it should be a url and instructions01:00
mwemuhammad: that's a good rule of thumb ;)01:00
ompaulgnomefreak, gone again01:00
gnomefreakompaul: give me a bit ill think of something01:00
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Jincasthi all01:07
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adrakoahi... when i run enemy  territory, i have a black screen and only sound ...  my graphics card i810,  glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering: Yes ,i try with a lot of resolutions and dephts..01:10
Jimmeyadrakoa, give up.01:10
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hoxzer:O01:11
Jimmeyadrakoa, I've got an 855GM which works for normal desktop purposes under the i810 driver, but ET's not worked no matter what I've tried01:11
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adrakoasnif01:11
mweJimmey: Do think it's even good enough to play ET anyway?01:11
Jimmeymwe, on Windows, it's decent, with the Intel drivers01:12
JimmeyOn Linux, I don't think there's a chance01:12
mweJimmey: I see01:12
JimmeyWhen I finally got it working, full screen, with the DRI drivers, I got 8FPS01:12
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mweJimmey: only simple gl stuff works decently on my 855GM01:13
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Jimmeymwe, yeah01:13
adrakoasad notice..01:13
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mweJimmey: like glxgears :)01:14
JimmeySorry adrakoa01:14
adrakoathx ...01:14
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omerlhHello01:14
fnozzkedoes ubuntu have any torrentprogram?01:14
CSWookieHey folks.  How do I burn a CD ISO?01:14
mwefnozzke: yes01:14
omerlhI have problem with installing open office through apt01:14
CSWookieIn windows, to install ubuntu from.01:14
fnozzkewhat its called mwe ?01:15
mwefnozzke: bittorrent01:15
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omerlhThe programe installed but the core and main packeage doesn't and synptic said:01:15
fnozzkeaha, thxe01:15
omerlh"has no available version, but exists in the database"01:15
mwefnozzke: or bittorrent-gui01:15
omerlhfor each of them01:15
fnozzkeoki isee01:15
mr_smeegalcan someone help me i want to unrar 26 files in the same directory in one shot01:15
screechingcatcan someone tell me how to verify a kubuntu ISO i just burnt ? i use XP01:15
mwefnozzke: apt-cache search -n torrent01:15
mr_smeegalnot 26 individual times01:15
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omerlhWhat this mean?01:16
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omerlhHow do I solve it?01:16
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misieqwhete can i get some c++ help?01:16
mr_smeegalanyone01:17
screechingcat@omerlh try ktorrent or azureus or bittornado01:17
mr_smeegalwhat would command line be... unrar with what options01:17
mwemr_smeegal: unrar *.rar maybe01:17
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overriddenunrar -x *.rar01:17
nils_can someone with experinece customising debian-installer have a look at this and tell me what i'm doing wrong.... http://www.olofsson.tv/debian-installer/errors.htm01:17
omerlhWhat, How these program will solve it?01:18
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screechingcatthey are all torrent programs01:18
omerlhOpen office? It's not a torrent programe, how much I know01:19
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mr_smeegalif i run unrar e *rar01:19
screechingcatwere did i mention openoffice ?01:19
mr_smeegalit just says Extracting from blah.rar nothing to extract01:20
screechingcati said ktorrent or azureus or bittornado01:20
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omerlhYou said it will help me, Don't you?01:20
omerlhMy problem is with installing open office01:20
omerlhand this eror:01:20
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omerlh"has no available version, but exists in the database"01:20
omerlhfor some Pakcages01:20
davidmurtashola01:21
screechingcatok sorry. slight confusion there. how about tryin sudo apt-get update01:21
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whazillawhere do i download dapper ?01:21
screechingcatand then sudo apt-get upgrade and then retry to install01:21
IdleOneubntu.com01:21
IdleOneubuntu.com01:21
omerlhI try this after getting source list from the site01:21
misieqi know it might not be a channel for it, but anyone knows how can i convert short int to some string type for use in string.insert(0, number_here); ?01:21
screechingcaty are u installing openoffice anyways ? its there by default01:22
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omerlhIt was there and work good before the upgrade. now it just gone01:22
omerlhsome of it can be install and other bring the eror.01:23
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screechingcati dont get you. could u tell me your prob again. from the begining ?01:23
whazillawhere do i download dapper ?01:23
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omerlhYeah01:23
omerlhI have the breezy. I done an upgrade.01:23
screechingcat@whazilla ubuntu.com01:23
albertomurtasola01:23
omerlhopen office gone.01:23
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omerlhI installed it through apt-get01:24
whazillai have sonic hedge hodge01:24
screechingcatcan u show me ur sources.list ?01:24
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omerlhthe core and some more packges bring this eror:01:24
albertomurtasola01:24
omerlh"has no available version, but exists in the database"01:24
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omerlhI have a source list from ubuntu site01:24
IdleOneola albertomurtas01:24
albertomurtasjose01:24
IdleOne!es01:24
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:24
omerlhopen office main scrren wprk from command line01:24
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screechingcatpost it in the pastebin and give me a link01:25
albertomurtasola01:25
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omerlhBut you can't only open writer or spreadshit01:25
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ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!01:25
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omerlhO.K.01:25
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Blacklightstop it01:25
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Hobbseegnomefreak: too late :P01:25
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omerlhWhere is pastebin?01:26
omerlhit is pastebin.ubuntu.com?01:26
Miekit's in the topic :(01:26
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screechingcathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/01:26
AbstractIdiot!grub01:26
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:26
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Leovinushello01:28
Blacklighthey01:28
Leovinusi have a problem01:28
Blacklightlol, ive reformatted my PC 6 times in the last 40 hours01:28
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Blacklightwhat be it?01:29
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arnoHello, I have a problem printing. I get an error /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed. What should I doN01:29
arno?01:29
Blacklightoh, thats beyond me. I still have to get myself a printer :P01:30
Leovinusi have a slow machine so it takes ages to compile anything, i am impatient, i strive to use aac in xmms, and the only method i can see is to compile, this takes hours to do, is there an alternative??01:30
omerlhI can't write there01:30
omerlhBut there it is:01:30
omerlhhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2197501:30
screechingcatseems alright to me.01:31
omerlhIt's from ubuntu site01:31
screechingcattry installing thru aptitude01:31
omerlhapt-get?01:32
screechingcatsudo aptitude install openoffice01:32
omerlhwhat is it?01:32
screechingcatreplace apt-get with aptitude01:32
arno??01:32
screechingcatits like apt-get but only much better01:32
omerlhOk01:32
ompaularno, the best way to tackle printing issues is to go to the menu System -> Administration -> Printing and remove any printers turn off your printer and restart the machine and set up the printer again from the same menu  (and have some patients)01:32
arnoI'll try!!01:33
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Leovinuscan anyone advise01:33
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ompaulomerlh, from the menu, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal, in there type "sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get update" then go about your daily business01:34
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omerlhI try this, it doesn't help ompaul01:35
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ompaulomerlh, what error message are you getting?01:35
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omerlh"has no available version, but exists in the database" for some of the packages01:35
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ompaulomerlh, what package in particular?01:36
goudkovhi guys, is there a command that can be used to print out a certain byte range from the input file? something like from byte 145 to byte 364. i don't want to use head and tail for that because i have to work with really large files.01:36
omerlhscreechingcat, How can I know it install? I don't see eror or anything else01:36
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omerlhwait, I will tell you01:36
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omerlhIt's from synaptic01:36
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ompaulomerlh, you can't do what I suggested while synaptic is open please colse it01:37
ompaulomerlh, please close it01:37
HowitzerI'm having a weird problem, when i open gnome-terminal, it starts in the root dir instead of the home dir.. (i'm a regular user and i have no other terminals open)01:37
rancorusHello, I am trying to install winxp using VMware and it stucked at the part where it "installs peripherals" or something like that. Is there anything I can do ?01:37
omerlhI know, i done it when it was close01:37
omerlh:)01:37
Howitzerrancorus, there is a guide on Ubuntuforums.com on how to install XP with vmware01:37
omerlhopenoffice.org2-core01:38
screechingcatwhat did aptitude throw up ?01:38
ompaulomerlh, just do openoffice.org and let the machine do the rest01:38
ompaulomerlh, it should be there by default01:38
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screechingcathere we go again01:39
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rancorusHowitzer: I know but the guide I found stops giving info when it says : then install windows xp and enjoy01:39
screechingcathe upgraded from breezy to dapper and openoffice diappeared01:39
_peterHi all! I've already tried so many things, but I can't install ubuntu 6.06.1 desktop amd64. The installation always freezes at "copying files". The CD is ok, I've also done MemoryTest, no errors.01:39
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ompaulscreechingcat, does the word pinned come to mind01:39
ompaul_peter, have a look at the page, wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions01:40
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whazillhey01:42
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omerlhSorry, my conputer stack01:42
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omerlhompalo, I'm starting again:01:42
AbstractIdiot!grub01:42
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whazilla6.06 ubuntu is dapper ? == ?01:42
Blacklightprobably01:42
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AbstractIdiotHey on this on the install grub thing01:43
AbstractIdiottype $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install.01:43
AbstractIdiotDo I include /boot?01:43
CSWookieHow do I burn a CD from Windows?01:43
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habeebWhats the Ubuntu site like http://www.apt-get.org. Does it exist?01:44
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Blacklightyeh, the ubuntu site should be default homepage on firefox01:44
omerlhmozilla-openoffice.org, openoffice.org2-common, openoffice.org2-core, openoffice.org2-java-common, openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us, openoffice.org-debian-files,01:44
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omerlhThere is more files that I doesn't check01:44
Blacklightdoes it run full screen?01:44
omerlhBut this enough, not?01:44
Blacklightwoops wrong channel01:44
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habeebBlacklight: file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html01:44
arnoHello again, I still get that error when I print : foomatic-rip failed01:45
arnoI don't know what I should do...???01:45
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_peterompaul, why should I look at this page? the livecd is booting without problems and ubuntu is working properly. Just the installation crashes01:45
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Blacklightwww.ubuntu.com01:45
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ompaul_peter, have a look at that page and see what you might disable some of those - why do I suggest that? well cos it is a well known reason for machines freezing during install01:46
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omerlhOmpaul, you saw the list?01:47
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arno??01:48
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ompaulomerlh, you have had some funny sources in the past - that is why it is looking at that debian file which does not live in ubuntu - no idea what your next step is, I have no idea where you got that from that might give me a clue01:48
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_peterthx ompaul, i will try disabling acpi and pcmcia01:48
ompaularno, no idea01:48
ompaularno, and take your time01:49
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omerlhI have that list from ubuntu site01:49
lekscan I somehow generate 500 home folders for certain users01:49
leks?01:49
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redbladesHi, I'm having an odd issue with my mouse - it freezes up every once in a while, it just did it 3 times in a row now, but it does it randomly usually.01:50
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Blacklightit couldbe your mouse01:50
redbladesSometimes when I use the scroll bar it does it, but sometimes for no reason.01:50
Blacklightdoes it only happen with linux?01:50
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redbladesI think so...01:50
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Blacklightmy mouse goes wacko from time to time, but thats coz my mouse is pretty old :P01:51
redbladesI don't recall it ever happening with WinXP, but I haven't run XP for quite a while...01:51
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ompaul_peter I don't do dcc chat01:51
redbladesMy mouse is a Microsoft USB laser.01:51
Moodlesdoes anyone know how to check to make sure my harddrives which aren't in use are on standby/turned off ?01:51
Blacklightsame01:51
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redbladesWheel mouse optical 1.1A USB and PS/2 Compatible.01:52
Blacklightbleh, ive got no idea about mine01:52
CSWookieburning cds is hard.01:52
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redbladesI used to have a USB serial adapter, but I lost it, and I think that was when the trouble started...01:53
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Blacklightid suspect the mosue because linux seems to have awsome generic driver software. but it could be ubuntu01:53
fantysunhi01:53
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redbladesBlacklight, HOW DARE YOU TRY AND BLAME UBUNTU FOR THIS! IT CAN DO NO WRONG!01:55
redblades:p01:55
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xcasexis there a specifc channel for translators?01:55
redbladesOf what?01:55
redbladesDon't say languages01:55
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xcasexredblades, heh. yes. languages01:56
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vincenzHello, I have two questions.  One is for my personal use, the other is more discussional.  The first is rather simple: is there something similar to Microsoft One Note for ubuntu (something to organize my TODOs).  Secondly, I have convinced my mother (who's not that goood at computers) to switch to linux (ubuntu).  Is there any good source out there on how to get started, something like linuxxing for dummies, that deals with std stuff like openoffice ba01:56
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redbladesxcasex, No, for what? You'd do better to pick a project.01:57
xcasexredblades, i already am. heh.01:57
xcasexusing rosetta to translate to swedish01:58
redbladesAh.01:58
naderSud01:58
Drucan anyone suggest a easy to setup & use HTTP file server app?01:58
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Drubeen using http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/ but its only windows based & I want a Linux alternative01:59
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IndyBCWhat is the difference between the packages smtpd and sendmail ?02:01
IndyBCAren't they both mail servers?02:01
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realistIndyBC: smtpd package appears to be a "mail proxy" package02:02
vincenzDoes anyone here use thunderbird yet still uses fetchmail to retrieve mail02:03
realistIndyBC: which _depends_ on sendmail02:03
IndyBCok02:03
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DruThink Abyss web server may be what I am looking for02:08
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vincenzAnyone know a good replacement for microsoft onenote?02:09
xcasexno.02:10
cafuegoAnyone know what microsoft onenote is or does?02:10
Druno02:10
xcasexthere are no freeform notepads like voodoopad or onenote for gnome/ubuntu02:10
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_Rappy_is there some sort of colorpicker application for ubuntu/linux? So i don't have to fire up GIMP each time I need to find a color and it's hexvalue?02:13
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vincenzSomething to wriite down todos and notes02:13
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vincenzSecondly, does anyone use thunderbird yet still use fetchmail (what is a good setup for that?  And how does one set up spamfilters ini such a system?)02:14
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cafuegowiki style notepad; indexed by beagle.02:14
vincenzcafuego: thanks, I'll take a look02:14
cafuegovincenz: You'd make fetchmail deliver to procmail,. which can pipe through spamassassin and whatever else.02:15
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vincenzcafuego: do you recommend it or do you suggest sticking to plain thunderbird02:15
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_Rappy_vincenz : Tomboy notes is good02:15
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ompaul!away > flash`toast02:16
ompaulflash`toast, have a look at the message from the bot cheers and thanks02:16
vincenzLast question is a bit more involved.  I managed to convince my mother to use linux (ubuntu) instead of windows.  She is however a bit of a computer newb.  Anyone know a good tutorial or book on using linux (nothing too fancy, just openoffice, firefox, thunderbird.... possibly some explanation about net stuff like RSS etc cause she's wanting to know how to get custom information and "popup boxes")02:17
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vincenzcafuego: why imap?02:18
cafuegovincenz: remote access02:18
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ompaulvincenz, there is the "offical ubuntu book" and one by Marcel Gagne and one or two others02:18
Blacklightanyone here use ipod linux?02:18
vincenzompaul: ah neat :)02:18
cafuegoBlacklight: Got it installed, don't actually see a use for it though.02:19
flash`toastompaul must i rename again ?02:19
Blacklightlol. its still black and white isnt it?02:19
cafuegoBlacklight: No, it has colour.02:19
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Blacklightoh02:19
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Jack_Sparrowgtkpod..no02:20
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cafuegoipod linux != gtkpod02:21
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Jack_Sparrowompaul: you here?02:21
LajujKejcould someone help me troubleshoot an Ndiswrapper problem.  I've installed the drivers and can see wlan0, but I can't connect to networks02:21
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lilbitI chaged monitors, from a 17" CRT to a 19" LCD, and I am wondering how I rerun the video config so that I can choose from resolutions that this new monitor can handle?02:21
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DeeTahPa1Ltah!fixres > lilbit02:22
opexoci have some problem with vim ( which was never appears before ). When I want to remove some letter thanks to backslash then I can't. How can I solve this problem ?02:22
cafuegolilbit: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:22
ompaulflash`toast, msg to you02:22
DeeTahPa1Ltahopexoc: well,it's rather vim problem ;p02:23
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lilbitcafuego, this is what I thought it was02:23
ompaulJack_Sparrow, there are suggestions that I am02:23
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lilbitDeeTahPa1Ltah, so what does !fixres do?02:23
LajujKejcould someone help me troubleshoot an Ndiswrapper problem.  I've installed the drivers and can see wlan0, but I can't connect to networks02:23
stefanhi.. i have got a problem installing ubuntu on an asrock conroexfire mainboard. it has an intel ich7r sata-controller. ubuntu installation aborts with kernel panic... any ideas or similar experiences?02:23
DeeTahPa1Ltahmakes ubotu msg you with this info ;p02:23
Jack_Sparrowompaul: I have heard you are not all there.. :)02:23
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opexocDeeTahPa1Ltah: yes... but maybe I execute some option in vim which I did not understand and now it cause  this problem.02:24
Kwonghi there, how could i set my default editor to vim instead of nano?02:24
kristinahow does ubuntu installer install grub into mbr of a sata drive? when i tried "grub-install /dev/sda", i got an error.02:24
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lilbitDeeTahPa1Ltah, thanks02:24
Jack_Sparrowompaul: What is the easiest way to duplicate an install?  I have the >myprog file... but <myprog  only sets the list it dosent install all that was there.02:24
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ompaulJack_Sparrow, source disk and dd02:25
ompaulrouzic_ausente,  english only please02:25
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Jack_Sparrowompaul: what about hardware differences02:25
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ompaul!install > Jack_Sparrow02:26
ompaulJack_Sparrow, have a look at that link see if there is something there02:26
Kwongerhm, noone helps me?02:26
ompaul!patients02:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patients - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:26
kristinaKwong, you have to run update-alternatives to do that02:26
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vincenzompaul: regarding the "official ubuntu book"02:27
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vincenzompaul: is it also feasible for newbies or does it presuppose some skills?02:27
Kwongkristina: i thought i just had something in my .bashrc (which i've done in my uni account)02:27
pontifexKwong: that will only set the default for you, not all users02:27
Kwongpontifex: i just need for myself02:27
kristinaKwong, i don't know about that, but update-alternatives is one way of doing it02:27
stefanno idea.... ?? im becoming desperate...02:28
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Jack_Sparrowompaul: Not quite what I needed, I had looked there before..  I was looking more for a fresh livecd install on a machine then using the installed packages list to install my fav progs02:28
ompaulvincenz, aimed at from beginner to who knows where02:28
DeeTahPanLtahstefan: tried any other distros?02:28
vincenzompaul: thank you02:28
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stefanyep.. suse.. it stops with udev .. then froze02:29
DeeTahPanLtahany live ones?02:29
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ompaulJack_Sparrow, then I think a server install apt-cache and some home made script that pulls it onto that machine02:29
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Jack_Sparrowompaul: dpkg --get-selections > myprog.txt creates a list of installed programs..02:29
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Jack_Sparrowompaul:  Agreed, I am thinking a script for apt-get to get them02:30
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ompaulJack_Sparrow, so work from there - like you know enough to be dangerous yourself you don't need me to break your ideas :)02:30
Jack_Sparrowompaul: where the script feeds the list to apt-get02:30
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ompaulJack_Sparrow, exactly :)02:30
Jack_Sparrowompaul: Ok, i'll put that in my list of things to work on .. number 6325902:31
Jack_Sparrowompaul: Nice work in channel by the way02:31
ompaulthanks02:32
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stefanhas somebody an asrock conroexfire in here?02:32
Jack_SparrowI learn alot just reading along and helping where I can.02:32
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Jack_Sparrowstefan: No but ask your question anyhow02:33
domsterI've got an xmodmap command that I'd like run every time X/gdm starts up. Where can I put it? (I don't know about ~/.xprofile because it's per-user, no?)02:33
stefanhi.. i have got a problem installing ubuntu on an asrock conroexfire mainboard. it has an intel ich7r sata-controller. ubuntu installation aborts with kernel panic... any ideas or similar experiences?02:33
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apokryphosdomster: make an .Xmodmap file in your ~02:34
Blacklighthow in the world do i play music with the inbuilt music player? it keeps saying f:///blah blah is not an audio stream02:34
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Jack_Sparrowstefan: Is that set as raid?02:34
DeeTahPanLtahmaybe the kernel is just too old? ;p02:34
kashajimaudacity requests me to locate libmp3lame.so, in order for it to export mp3 files , what shall I do ?02:34
domsterapokryphos: is there a system-wide way to do it. won't the modmap only be run once I log in that way?02:34
stefanno .. its ahci...02:34
ompaulstefan,  have a look at the page, wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions02:34
Blacklightno help?02:34
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stefanompaul: ok..02:35
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ompaul!sound > Blacklight02:35
ompaul!restricted > Blacklight02:35
apokryphosdomster: maybe put in the command in /etc/profile02:35
DeeTahPanLtahBlacklight: is it mp3?02:35
Blacklight?02:35
ompaulBlacklight, check out those links ubotu sent you02:35
Blacklightyeh02:35
domsterthanks for the hint02:35
ompaulBlacklight, again, please check out those links ubotu sent you the answer is there02:35
Blacklightohk02:36
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Blacklightnight all02:36
Jack_Sparrowstefan: http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-precision/2005-October/000781.html02:36
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Blacklightthanks for the help with getting me started :D02:36
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DeeTahPanLtahbet he'll be back in five02:37
ompaul!patience02:37
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:37
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DeeTahPanLtahompaul: got any ideas what my superkey in xgl is?02:37
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ZenJabbaevening all02:37
DeeTahPanLtahactually,it's afternoon here,but hi ;p02:38
DeeTahPanLtah14:37:56 < ZenJabba> evening all02:38
ompaulDeeTahPanLtah, no, I don't do xgl at all it bit a box I tried it on, ask in #ubuntu-xgl as it is beta software02:38
ZenJabbasimple question.. how do I get aptget to force it to download from the internet, rather than looking for the cdrom all the time02:38
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ZenJabbaas the server doesn't have a cdrom in it, and its 4000km/s away02:38
DeeTahPanLtahompaul: thanks! didnt know such channel exists :)02:38
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longwaveDeeTahPanLtah: super key is the windows key on some keyboard configs02:38
DeeTahPanLtahlongwave: most probably not on mine02:38
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longwaveDeeTahPanLtah: on others you may need to set it up in the keyboard options02:38
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stefanJack_Sparrow: yep.. usually it should work.. i know.. found this article before. but i have got no idea why my system doesnt work... perhaps its because of acpi...02:38
DeeTahPanLtahlongwave: got kde,any hints?02:39
fredrinHello, I have this box that my ISP has setup, it's a DD Server. The box has four IP's asigned to eth0, how do I tell i.e. apache to use one IP, while other programs use another IP? I need several programs to run on the same port02:39
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longwaveDeeTahPanLtah: sorry i am not a kde user :)02:39
Jack_Sparrowstefan: Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off02:39
longwavefredrin: for apache, you can tell it to bind to a certain IP address in the configuration file02:39
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ompaulZenJabba, please fire up a terminal Menu:Applications -> accessories -> terminal and in there type >> sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list << and put a # in front of the line with CD in it02:40
Jack_Sparrowstefan: SOme things to try after hitting F6 at the first screen02:40
piratepenguinhow I reinstall grubto the MBR from the ubuntu 6.06 livecd?02:40
apokryphospiratepenguin: /msg ubotu grub02:40
Jack_Sparrow!grub02:40
ompaulDeeTahPanLtah, for even more fun there is #kubuntu02:40
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:40
fredrinlongwave: ok, thanks02:40
apokryphosy02:40
apokryphoswhoops02:40
DeeTahPanLtahompaul: gathered about this one ;)02:40
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piratepenguinapokryphos, Jack_Sparrow: thanks02:40
siriusnovasup d00dz02:40
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siriusnovamorning02:40
siriusnova;)02:40
ompaul!offtopic02:40
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:40
siriusnovaOpera 9 kicks so much butt02:40
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siriusnovafirefox for linux sucks compared to it02:40
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stefanJack_Sparrow: ok.. will try that.02:41
fredrinsiriusnova: not if you use the right extension for FF02:41
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Jack_Sparrowstefan: Have you tried with usb2 off02:41
siriusnovafredin - what extension?02:41
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fredrinsiriusnova: I can't live with out adblock02:41
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siriusnovafirefox for linux is so sloooooooo02:41
siriusnova*sloow02:41
jfletcher[mac] why is it?02:41
DeeTahPanLtahompaul: ubuntu's wiki has a huge amount of articles,how long is it being developed?02:41
ompaulsiriusnova, this is the ubuntu support channel02:42
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Jack_Sparrowsiriusnova: Seems much faster than IE in Windows02:42
ompaulDeeTahPanLtah, about 2.5 years02:42
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siriusnovaoops sry :)02:42
affluxmorgen...02:42
siriusnovaill take it to offtopic02:42
piratepenguin!offtopic02:42
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:42
stefanJack_Sparrow: no.. not yet.. but to test the mb i tried to install a distri called "windows xp".. and it aborted with an acpi error.. and found no hd ...02:42
DeeTahPanLtahompaul: is there any polish version? i'd like to participate in translation02:42
ompaulDeeTahPanLtah, and don't forget to check out help.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community02:42
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ompaulDeeTahPanLtah, check out launchpad.net it will get you into the translation02:43
Jack_Sparrowsteph: because that is software raid..02:43
mehany idea what I might be doing wrong?02:43
gary4garhi, ppl i need help02:43
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ompaul!ask02:43
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:43
Jack_Sparrowsteph: even xp needs special drivers  F6 on install etc02:43
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MM2My system won't boot up, (Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init) hda-errors, How I can run filecheck?02:43
Jack_Sparrowsteph: I personally would not use software raid on a decent system like yours02:43
gary4gari want to burn a cue/bin file in k3b02:43
stefanJack_Sparrow: but i have no raid .. i configured it in bios as ahci... or whatever it is called...02:44
DeeTahPanLtahompaul: i meant translating wikipedia articles02:44
gary4garbut i get error!02:44
Jack_Sparrowsteph: What other options are there..02:44
ompaulDeeTahPanLtah, wikipedia not us :-) wiki.ubuntu-pl.org might be useful for you02:44
gary4garanybody is listening to me???02:44
Jack_Sparrow!patience02:44
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:44
mehin 64 bit dapper, I cannot get drivers going for my 7900GT nor can I seem to get any dvds working, even after reading instructions on ubuntu home02:45
DeeTahPanLtahalrighty,thanks02:45
stefanJack_Sparrow: there is an compatible mode .. it says for dos and nt. and an enhanced mode with sub-options called ahci, ide and raid.02:45
gary4garsorry if i was harsh!02:45
Jack_Sparrowsteph: use comp mode02:45
ompaulDeeTahPanLtah,  http://www.ubuntu-pl.org02:45
gary4garnow i will try to control ur self02:45
DeeTahPanLtahompaul: yeah,already reading our manifest's polish veresion ;p02:46
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: please ask your question, as detailed as possiblew02:46
stefanJack_Sparrow: i tried.. nothing. same kernel panic.02:46
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gary4gar i want to burn a cue/bin file in k3b but getting error!02:46
Jack_Sparrowsteph: turn of usb 2.0 or down to 1.1 and try without acpi02:46
stefanbtw what install disk do i have to use with an core2duo? .. 386 should work, right?02:46
ompaulDeeTahPanLtah, well there should be wiki.ubuntu-pl.org which would be the wiki in polish join the polish translation team on launchpad and get started there :)02:46
stefanok02:47
gary4gari can post the log here??02:47
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: what error?02:47
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Jack_Sparrowno02:47
Jack_Sparrow!pastebin02:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:47
gary4garJack_Sparrow> so i posted in ubuntuforums02:47
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: does not help if we dont have a link to it..02:48
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screechingcatcan anyone tell me how to check an ISO for errors before i burn it ?02:48
ZenJabbaompaul: perfect, thanks02:48
DeeTahPanLtahompaul: i meant-well,on real wikipedia diffirent languaged servers are somehow configured to reffer to each other-so if you see some article on english wiki,you can easily change language ;p02:48
mehhas anyone else had and solved the 7900GTs supplied driver not working problem?02:48
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: Use pastebin and provide us with a link02:48
gary4garwhat is pastebin??02:48
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longwavescreechingcat: i guess you could mount the iso on loopback and check all the files were readable that way?02:48
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: Look ath the topic of this channel or the link I just gave you02:49
longwave!tell gary4gar about pastebin02:49
screechingcati did that and it worked fine02:49
DeeTahPanLtah!tell DeeTahPanLtah about pastebin02:49
gary4garok02:49
screechingcatbut when i burnt the ISO onto a disc and tried to install Kubuntu from it, it threw up errors02:49
mehstill really new to linux/ubuntu so this is a bit beyond me02:50
Jack_Sparrowscreechingcat: Did you do an md5 on the cd to make sure it was a good burn02:50
gary4gar<screechingcat> u need to check the iso for md5 check sum02:50
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screechingcathow ?02:50
longwavescreechingcat: ah, you are talking about the kubuntu cd, does the cd media check from the boot menu give errors too?02:50
screechingcatyes02:50
Jack_Sparrowmeh: where did you get the new drivers?02:50
mehfirst attempt was as per the ubuntu site said02:51
longwavescreechingcat: well, try burning the iso again i guess, maybe use a lower speed to burn it at02:51
ZenJabbawhat is the init level to boot up in terminal mode, without starting X?02:51
mehthrough the add remove thing02:51
screechingcathow do i check the md5 or whatever it is that u guys were talking about ?02:51
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stefanJack_Sparrow: is linux an native or an legacy os???02:51
Jack_Sparrowmeh: Are you trying to get 3d for wine or something02:51
mehmostly just to get off generic drivers and have 3d support02:52
stefanJack_Sparrow: because the bios help says that compatible should be used with legacy os.02:52
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mehpossibly stuff around with some other apps that will need 3d02:52
Jack_Sparrowsteph: then try legacy02:52
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longwaveZenJabba: i think it is runlevel 3 that starts everything as normal except X02:53
Jack_Sparrowmeh: ANd what did not work with the drivers ubuntu installed02:53
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ZenJabbalongwave: will give it a try02:53
mehthe enable code isn't enabling, if I were to jump ahead it will as something about nv nvidia02:54
DeeTahPanLtahim wondering,if there some ultralite version of ubuntu,like debian's netinst version?02:54
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longwaveZenJabba: you can look in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d to compare what services will start at different runlevels02:54
DeeTahPanLtahthat all needed packets are simply downloaded by apt02:54
Jack_Sparrowmeh: Post your xorg config to the pastebin for us02:54
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mehno idea how to do that02:54
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longwaveDeeTahPanLtah: a basic server install of ubuntu is pretty light02:54
DeeTahPanLtah600mb? ;P02:55
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Moodles6.06 is dapper drake isn't it?02:55
Jack_Sparrowmeh: gksudo gedit  /etc/x11/xorg.conf   here is your xorg... now read up on pastebin02:55
longwaveMoodles: yes02:55
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longwaveDeeTahPanLtah: oh, you mean installation media size. there is no netinst for ubuntu that i have seen..02:55
Jack_Sparrow!install02:55
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues02:55
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DeeTahPanLtahJack_Sparrow: worth looking this time,or its simply not possible? ;p02:56
gary4garso i posted it there02:56
gary4garhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2197902:56
siriusnovaok stupid question but when im trying to install gstreamer plugins should i install gstreamer0.10 or gstreamer0.802:56
gary4garnow pls see it02:56
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BlueEaglearchaios: I know. It's horrible. :p02:57
erUSULsiriusnova: 0.1002:57
ANDOhi ppl02:57
mehAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. I have done something wrong again methinks02:57
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Moodlesis there a way I can download the network-manager-gnome package, and all it's dependencies without having to download each one by one02:58
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: it could not find the file, it means it could not find the file or your permissions are not allowing it02:58
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: Did you set permissions in K3b02:58
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gary4garno02:58
Moodlesthe other pc is wireless, and i cant get wireless working. im on a windows machine02:58
gary4garpls tell how to do it?02:58
chucklesmoodles: try synaptic? it might do it for you02:58
Jack_SparrowGo through the menu in K3B to enable02:58
RamiKassabhey guys I just did a server install of ubuntu on a machine and it's connected to a Dell 2005FPW monitor (20" widescreen) and the screen text is off to the left and bottom of the screen, is there any way to fix the screen text so it fits within the borders of the screen?02:58
erUSUL!apt-zip02:59
ubotuapt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.13.5 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 96 kB02:59
erUSUL!apt-zip > Moodles02:59
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Moodlesthanks02:59
RamiKassabany ideas guys?03:00
gary4gar<Jack_Sparrow>: can u tell where it is??03:00
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gary4gar<Jack_Sparrow> i am on ubutnu 6.0603:00
wahjavahi channel03:00
mehpfft, will leave this for another day, back to xp :(03:00
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: settings k3b setup or close to that03:00
wahjavahow do I block ICMP packets based on packet size03:00
gary4gar<Jack_Sparrow> ok will check and tell03:01
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mehunless someone has a suggestion of a dvd playing app that works in 64?03:01
wahjava$sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --source 192.168.1.0/27 -m connbytes --connbytes 64 -j DROP03:01
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wahjava^^ tried above but it failed with error "iptables v1.3.3: Couldn't load match `connbytes':/lib/iptables/libipt_connbytes.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"03:02
RamiKassabguys, please, any ideas on how to adjust the screen text on a server install to fit within the borders of the screen? My text is off to the left and bottom and I can't see things sometimes which makes it damn hard to configure the server03:02
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Jack_SparrowRamiKassab: what about the buttons on the front of the monitor03:02
DeeTahPanLtah;')03:02
RamiKassabJack_Sparrow: those don't do a damn thing to fix it03:02
DeeTahPanLtahJack_Sparrow: nothing interesting found in here,are there all the ways to install ubuntu?03:02
wahjavaany ideas on how do I block ?03:03
gary4gar<Jack_Sparrow> i tool the screen shot of dialog box now tell me which option??03:03
Jack_SparrowDeeTahPanLtah: Just no net install03:03
DeeTahPanLtah;'<03:03
gary4garhttp://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotconfigurekdecontrolmoduletc7.png03:03
DeeTahPanLtahpity,are you thinking on installing one?03:03
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: No... look for it03:03
gary4garpls just check the screen shot , <Jack_Sparrow>03:03
mehlater03:03
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ryouRamikasasb> Have you tried different vga modes?03:04
ryouhttp://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes03:04
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Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: I have not had my coffee yet...  After that ...03:04
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RamiKassabJack_Sparrow: the buttons will fix the left alignment but the text will still run off the bottom of the screen03:05
gary4garok i will wait no problem <Jack_Sparrow> :)03:05
longwaveRamiKassab: you should also be able to squeeze the text vertically using those buttons so it all fits03:05
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longwaveRamiKassab: monitors nowadays are not set up to run in text mode by default but you should be able to get a usable display by playing with the buttons03:05
RamiKassablongwave: if I do that, won't it mess of the configure for all of the machines running on the monitor? I am using a KVM switch03:05
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longwaveRamiKassab: generally monitors have different sets of settings for different video modes, so when you switch the KVM the monitor will switch to a different mode for the next display - but this depends on your monitor, you will have to try it and see03:06
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: WHile I make coffee.. go to a term and type gksudo K3b and try to burn that again.03:06
DeeTahPanLtah!grub > DeeTahPanLtah03:06
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gary4garok <Jack_Sparrow>03:07
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ZenJabbaperfect!03:11
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davvs-Swhat application can burn a iso in ubuntu?03:13
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gary4gar<davvs-S> u can use gnome-baker or k3b03:13
davvs-Sok thanks gary4gar03:13
gary4garnp03:13
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gary4garhi qwerty!03:14
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Qwertyhello :)03:14
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Boris^Britvahi :)03:15
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Boris^BritvaCan someone give me a link on a howto setting up domains in bind, with examples?03:16
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=== rouzic_ausente ha vuelto
WineOQuick question:  How do I install a version of a program not marked stable? (e.g. foomatic-db and hplip to get the latest printer support)03:16
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Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: Pure Columbian flowing .. Yum..  Ok  so what did it do.. same problem?  New Problem?03:16
gary4garno same  Jack_Sparrow03:17
nich0sHey all, how do I go about compiling something from source?03:17
Boris^Britvanich0s: gcc03:17
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: have you tried any other files?03:17
nich0sBoris^Britva, I r n00b, what is gcc and how do I use it?03:17
ompaul!compile > nich0s03:18
Boris^Britvanich0s: it's a compiles, just install it03:18
gary4garsee then i try to burn from mounted partion(fat 32) this prob occurs, when i home it works fine  Jack_Sparrow03:18
vk2wrkjack_Sparrow: checkout http://www.howtoforge.org/debian_bind9_master_slave_system03:18
gary4garit may be of root03:18
Boris^Britvaand use trough console gcc -o file.c for example03:18
gary4garthats why?03:18
nich0ssounds good, thanks03:18
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gary4gar Jack_Sparrow what do u suggest??03:18
ompaulnich0s, read the stuff from ubotu03:19
nich0sompaul, I am, thanks a lot :)03:19
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: yes03:19
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Jack_Sparrowgary4gar:hOW ARE PERMISSIONS SET ON THE FAT3203:19
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: Sorry03:19
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gary4gari think they belong to root mate03:20
npsterI need help for my webcam. Please can someone help ?03:20
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: Typing with one hand drinking with the other..03:20
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Stinger_Hi, does anyone know why the DVD images of Ubuntu wont boot?03:20
gary4gar Jack_Sparrow, np03:20
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Jack_Sparrow!webcam03:20
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:20
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Stinger_i can boot other OS's, but not the Ubuntu DVD images i have downloaded and burnt03:20
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npsterJack_Sparrow: I know but that doesn't help, I need help from a human03:21
Jack_SparrowStinger_: SOme hardware dosent like to boot dvd's03:21
hyrcanAnyone know a way to force the usb to rescan for devices?03:21
Jack_Sparrownpster: What did you do so far...03:21
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npsterJack_Sparrow: I have installed easycam1 and two and they don't work with spca03:22
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SakirethHey. I'm having Java problems. I'm trying to run frostwire, but... it says it can't find the java executables - although sun-java5-bin IS installed. error log: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1673. Anyone?03:22
Stinger_Jack_Sparrow: ohh, hmm maybe, although i have tried it in 2 different computers. do the images need to be burnt with a special program? i have tried using nero and roxio03:22
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npsterJack_Sparrow: As the manual on the Wiki says for spca's that doesn't work for me03:22
gary4gar Jack_Sparrow: r u there??03:22
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Jack_SparrowStinger_: I use isorecorder.... free for xp...03:22
Jack_Sparrowyes gary03:23
Stinger_Jack_Sparrow: cool, ill try that program, *fingers crossed* =)03:23
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Stinger_Jack_Sparrow: the images are not meant to be readable under windows are they?03:23
Jack_SparrowStinger_: right click on the iso and burn03:23
gary4gar Jack_Sparrow:it seems you are so busy to talk:P03:24
Jack_SparrowStinger_: You should be able to see folders and files03:24
npsterJack_Sparrow: I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper and no that doesn't work, my cam is supported by Ubuntu, But it has to be turned on from the computer03:24
lilbitI changed monitors, went from a 17" AOC CRT to a 19" LCD Samsung 920n.  Ubotu referred me to a page that explains how to fix your resolution but rerunning detect did not work, i then manuall entered the Hor and Vert paramaters in xorg.conf and just crashed03:24
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Stinger_Jack_Sparrow: ohhh! then I am definitely burning it wrong, I have burnt 3 different Ubuntu images, none of them read under windows..03:24
npsterJack_Sparrow: I mean the computer sends some bits and the cam is turned on, you can't do it manually, can you help ?03:25
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Jack_SparrowStinger_: You can burn them under linux03:25
lilbitI am wondering, can I copy xorg.conf from a dapper machine that was hooked up to the same hardware/03:25
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erUSULlilbit: sure03:25
Jack_Sparrownpster: I dont use any cams, but someone else will have an answer..03:25
SakirethHey. I'm having Java problems. I'm trying to run frostwire, but... it says it can't find the java executables - although sun-java5-bin IS installed. error log: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1673. Anyone?03:25
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Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: yes getting busy and barely getting my first cup od coffee down me03:26
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Jack_Sparrowlilbit: yes03:26
Stinger_Jack_Sparrow: thanks for your help, you are a really great member of the Ubuntu community =)03:26
Jack_SparrowJunior member03:26
Jack_Sparrowbut thanks03:26
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Jack_Sparrowlilbit: When you get it fixed, make a backup of your xorg for future ref03:27
lilbiterUSUL, Jack_Sparrow, thank you03:28
Jack_Sparrownp03:28
erUSULSakireth: do you configured the sun java as default java? is somthing along the ways of 'sudo update-alternatives --java'03:28
erUSULlilbit: no problem03:28
kejinluwhat are you talking here?03:28
Jack_SparrowEnglish03:28
Jack_SparrowOther languages available03:29
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kejinlu03:30
Jack_SparrowChineese03:30
Jack_Sparrow!ch03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:31
erUSULkorean?03:31
npsterdoes someone has a ekiga account here. I want to try something03:31
erUSUL!kr03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:31
npsterbye03:31
gary4garJack_Sparrow: r u free now??03:31
Jack_SparrowFor a bit...03:31
kejinluchinese?03:31
gary4garso pls tell03:32
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Jack_Sparrowkejinlu: What language do you want?03:32
SakirethYAY! workls03:32
Sakireththanks03:32
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Jack_Sparrowcool03:32
kejinluI use chinese03:32
gary4garhow to change permissions??03:33
WineOQuick question:  How do I install a version of a program not marked stable? (e.g. foomatic-db and hplip to get the latest printer support)03:33
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Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: it looks like a permissions thing.. if you can burn from ext3 Ubuntu drive and not from fat32 drive03:33
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gary4gar<Jack_Sparrow> so what the solution for it??03:33
Jack_SparrowWineO: where did you find the program you want to install?03:33
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Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: how are permissions set on your fat32?03:34
gary4garroot03:34
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WineOJack_Sparrow: on hplip.sourceforge.net03:35
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: HOw and why ?03:35
dfdHello03:35
kejinluI have a question03:35
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Jack_SparrowWineO: They tell you to use that program and not how to get or install it.. got a link to it.03:35
dfdI want to install xgl+compiz.. I saw that they are available on the repository but every tutorial I read on the internet asks me to add new repositories.. why? Can I install from ubuntu official repositories or they have problems?03:36
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Jack_Sparrow!ask03:36
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:36
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WineOHere's the download page: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=149981&package_id=16577703:36
gary4gar<Jack_Sparrow: it was a wild gues03:36
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kejinluwhen I press the Hibernate  button,it just restart,why?03:36
Jack_Sparrowdfd: multiverse and universe are already there, just rem'd out03:36
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WineOJack_Sparrow: hplip download: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=149981&package_id=16577703:37
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gary4gar<Jack_Sparrow: i will come some other time!:)03:37
dfdJack_Sparrow, okay.. but a lot of tutorial says to add new ones.. that aren't ubuntu official repositories.. I will ignore them then.. thanks03:37
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BeepAUhey everyone, how do i install a *.tar.gz file?03:38
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mr_smeegalif i upgrade kernel does ndiswrapper need to be reinstalled ?03:38
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mr_smeegalor just unloaded03:38
mr_smeegaland reloaded03:38
hoxzerDeepAU: tar.gz is just a container, usually it has source files in it03:38
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dfdBeepAU, tar.gz files are archives. Extract the archive with fileroller (or from shell tar xzvf filename.tar.gz)03:38
POVaddctBeepAU: why do you want to do that? isn't the program available as a ubuntu package?03:38
josh__whats up people... i need to map my wife's windows box to my linux box so she can get her backups off it... how do i do that03:38
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WineOjosh__: samba03:39
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mr_smeegalanyone :)03:39
kejinluye,samba03:39
SakirethGuys.. frostwire detects a firewall. also, speeds are fairly slow. How to set up my pc to do port forwarding and then forward the correct ports, and get rid of any other firewalls left?03:39
Jack_Sparrowdfd: What repos do they want you to add03:39
BeepAUPOVaddct -- it's called ktagebuch-0.74.tar.gz and i couldn't find one on the website.03:39
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kejinluwhy so many people?03:40
Jack_Sparrow!firewall03:40
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)03:40
dfdJack_Sparrow, 1) deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main 2) deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main 3) deb-src http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main03:40
Jack_Sparrowkejinlu: Always this busy.. yes03:40
ompaulkejinlu, it is so unpopular :)03:40
Wolfrider_DKI have a problem installing ubuntu on my laptop from CD (ver. 6.06) It freezes in install procedure. Different places depending on choices. Anyone who can help me please?03:40
POVaddctBeepAU: you don't install programs from their website. you search the package manager first: apt-cache search ktagebuch03:40
Jack_Sparrowdfd: those all say dapper main..03:41
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WineOJack_Sparrow: can firestarter read the results of an iptables-save command?03:41
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Jack_SparrowWineO: yes03:41
mr_smeegal if i upgrade kernel does ndiswrapper need to be reinstalled ?03:41
POVaddctBeepAU: do you have the usual repositories enabled? (universe)03:41
Jack_SparrowWineO: It will show you the current setup03:41
kejinluI format my Harddisk completely,and install my pretty ubuntu.03:41
Jack_SparrowWineO: guarddog is also good03:41
WineOJack_Sparrow: good, then I can copy my current settings to a new machine!03:41
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Moodlesim a bit confused about "apt-zip", on the target machine, do I use "dselect" to select the package I want. then run apt-zip-list to get the packages needed, for the internet machine use to download?03:42
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BeepAUPOVaddct -- i don't know how to do that. i'm new to linux.03:42
SakirethJack_Sparrow: I meant my router's firewall.03:42
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POVaddctBeepAU: does   apt-cache search ktagebuch   produce any output?03:43
Jack_SparrowBeepAU: Try synaptic... for adding and removing programs/packages03:43
Jack_SparrowSakireth: one sec..03:43
dfdJack_Sparrow, with not official I meant that it weren't a ubuntu.org repository.. I will install from universe then03:43
hyrcanis there any way to 'kick' the usb system with out rebooting?03:43
SakirethJack_Sparrow: k03:43
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WineOAll here's a weird one: I installed dapper to a new box (amd x2 3800 with SATA hard drive). After reboot I ran update to update everything.  Next reboot failed since boot flag had been turned off in my boot partition.  Is this a known problem or expected behaviour?03:43
BeepAUPOVaddct -- nothing.03:43
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Sp4rKyhi03:44
POVaddctBeepAU: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the comment chars (#) from the lines with "universe" in it03:44
mr_smeegalvmware requires the source for my existing kernel if i download just the source will it do anything to kernel?03:44
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POVaddctBeepAU: then do: apt-get update03:44
Wolfrider_DKCan anyone please help me with installation freeze of ubuntu when trying to install on my laptop?03:44
Jack_SparrowSakireth: Having brain fart... you want to copy settings from your router to the ubuntu firewall.. sorry, if I seem confused.. I am.03:44
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SakirethJack_Sparrow: ... ok03:45
Sp4rKyplease french mirror of repositories seems work bad, some packages can't be downloaded. how can i advertize some people ?03:45
jhasseDoes someone know how i can change the language of gcc from German to English??03:45
Jack_SparrowWolfrider_DK:  Use F6 at the first menu.. try a few options ...Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off03:45
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Wolfrider_DKJack_Sparrow: Tried that, but will not work. I can run Ubuntu as "live" from Cd without problems, but it freezes only in installation...03:46
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mr_smeegalwhere can i hunt down new kernel03:47
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josh__yeah i have samba installed03:47
mr_smeegalor source for my exisiting kernel on a default install?03:47
Jack_SparrowWolfrider_DK: HAve you tried turning off usb 2 or down to 1.103:47
josh__the windows box see the computer03:47
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Jack_SparrowWolfrider_DK: You tried all of those command line options and none did anything?03:47
josh__it just keeps asking for the user/pass03:48
josh__it wont actually connect to it03:48
Jack_SparrowWolfrider_DK: What type of lappy, what type of drives any usb things or pcmcia cards installed?03:48
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BeepAUPOVaddct -- done03:48
Wolfrider_DKJack_Sparrow, It's a noname Lappy, and has right now nothing connectet to either PCMCIA or USB, but I need the USB later for my memory stick.03:49
POVaddctBeepAU: try   apt-cache search ktagebuch   again03:49
RamiKassabguys my text is still running off the bottom of the screen on my monitor for some reason, I've tried setting the scaling options, auto adjusting, everything on the monitor's control panels but nothing is working... is there a way to fix this in ubuntu itself? I am running a server install03:49
WineOAll here's a weird one: I installed dapper to a new box (amd x2 3800 with SATA hard drive). After reboot I ran update to update everything.  Next reboot failed since boot flag had been turned off in my boot partition.  Is this a known problem or expected behaviour?03:49
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Jack_SparrowWolfrider_DK: Did you try those options one by one or all at once.. and set usb to 1.1 for now or off to id this problem on your no name hardware03:50
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dfdBeepAU, the homepage of the project makes you download the deb package..03:50
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dfdbut I don't know if it works since it says it's for debian..03:50
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BeepAUdfd -- it said i needed kdeblibs4 or something03:51
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dfdBeepAU, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=997303:51
Wolfrider_DKJack_Sparrow, Have triede almost every thing(boot option), in help file (F1 on boot). But not the USB thing, will try that. Otherwise could it be something to do with using graphic installer instead of alternate-ubuntu cd?03:51
dfdBeepAU, there is a link for an ubuntu deb package..03:52
Jack_SparrowWolfrider_DK: Are there any specs on your hardware?03:52
dfdBeepAU, try downloading and installing it.. if you are sure the package isn't on the repositories03:52
Wolfrider_DKJack_Sparrow, Sure, what do you need to know?03:53
BeepAUdfd -- Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: kdelibs4c2 :(03:53
Jack_Sparrowvideo card, processor, how much ram you have etc03:53
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Jack_SparrowBeepAU: what are you trying to install?03:53
BeepAUJack_Sparrow -- diary program03:53
dfdBeepAU, you have to find the kdelibs4c2 deb package then.. that seems like a kde 4 package.. maybe it is only on the unstable repositories e.g. edgy eft ubuntu03:54
Jack_SparrowBeepAU: Name of program?03:54
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BeepAUJack_Sparrow -- KTagebuch03:54
Wolfrider_DKJack_Sparrow, Onboard S3 videocard, 256 mb ram, AMD athlon 1800+03:55
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guerrahail, how do i set the classpath variable? everytime i create it, after i relog its not there anymore03:55
Jack_SparrowBeepAU: Not in repos...03:55
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BeepAUJack_Sparrow -- true03:55
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Jack_SparrowBeepAU: If you must have it you must also install the dependencies, and since you are trying to run ked program in gnome there may be quite a few03:56
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BeepAUJack_Sparrow -- maybe i'll just find something else. thanks, though.03:56
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Jack_SparrowBeepAU: Not impossible...03:56
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Jack_SparrowBeepAU: do you have a link to the prog03:57
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BeepAUJack_Sparrow -- http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=997303:57
Jack_SparrowWolfrider_DK: I would think no apci and nodma would do it..03:57
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PingunZHey, how can I uninstall all programs I dont need ?03:57
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dfdPingunZ -- tried using synaptic?03:58
Jack_SparrowPingunZ: use synaptic and uncheck the ones you want to remove.. except office...03:58
Wolfrider_DKJack_Sparrow, I'll try Captain. Thanx and have a nice day :-)03:58
Jack_Sparrownp03:58
PingunZJack_Sparrow: why not office ?03:58
Jack_SparrowPingunZ: It does NOT uninstall well.03:58
PingunZoh03:58
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phaedrus44can anyone here give me some hints on the gimp.?03:58
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Jack_SparrowPingunZ: Too much like a MS product, way too many hooks into the system03:59
ghost_how can I change the default sound device in Gnome? When I use Administration -> Sound, Gnome doesn't save what card I select03:59
klyickHello!03:59
PingunZJack_Sparrow: can't I do like sudo aptitude uninstall openoffice-base --purge ?03:59
dfdphaedrus44 -- there is also the #gimp channel, it is more specific03:59
klyickI've got a issue with IMAP on ubuntu03:59
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sekharpleasee help03:59
Jack_SparrowPingunZ: YEs, but I doubt it will work without trashing everything.. let me know if you succeed03:59
PingunZok ;)04:00
phaedrus44thanks dfd04:00
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PingunZUbuntu really needs somekind of add/remove like MS..04:00
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sekharjack_Sparrow can you help me04:00
klyickthe issue is this, when I try to access IMAP, I get04:00
klyickbadlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1]  CRAM-MD5 [SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database] 04:00
klyickcan anyone help?04:00
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dfdsekhar -- you still haven't asked anything04:01
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shawnr_I Just formatted my backup drive to ext3.. now how can i check it to make sure everything went ok before i put my important data on it04:01
fallingdutchPingunZ, synaptic is your friend!04:01
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sekhardfd i upgraded ubuntu breezy to dapper yesterday04:01
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sekharbut now there is no open office04:01
bastiqHow do i make a startup script for a file that has no starter except in it's home folder04:02
formationgbatoutsalut04:02
formationgbatoutbonjour04:02
WineOAll here's a weird one: I installed dapper to a new box (amd x2 3800 with SATA hard drive). After reboot I ran update to update everything.  Next reboot failed since boot flag had been turned off in my boot partition.  Is this a known problem or expected behaviour?04:02
RamiKassabguys my text is still running off the bottom of the screen on my monitor for some reason, I've tried setting the scaling options, auto adjusting, everything on the monitor's control panels but nothing is working... is there a way to fix this in ubuntu itself? I am running a server install04:02
klyickbadlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1]  CRAM-MD5 [SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database] 04:02
ericrwwhy is the device mapper being greedy and locking up my scsi devices ? ;-)04:02
klyickwhat does this mean?04:03
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dfdsekhar -- what do you mean? You had it but now it isn't there anymore?04:03
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dfdsekhar -- Have you tried reinstalling it?04:03
sekhardfd exactly04:03
RamiKassabI've asked for help with this issue like 5 times and have just been ignored... is there no way to fix it?04:03
sekharhow to reinstall open office04:03
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WineORamiKassab: I had a similar prob but was able to adjust my monitor to compensate.04:04
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dfdsekhar -- exec gksu synaptic04:04
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nickspoonI have a Belkin bluetooth adaptor and a Sony Clie PDA. I start up the Bluetooth File Sharing app and attempt to transfer from Clie->PC. The Clie, however, says that it is 'Unable to connect'.04:04
RamiKassabWineO: I'm not able to do that, I've tried everything with the minitor adjustments04:04
dfdsekhar -- then select openoffice from the list and click on apply04:04
sekharlemme check04:04
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Jack_SparrowJKing: we are listening04:05
WineORamiKassab: can you try a different monitor (just to see if the monitor is a problem)04:05
JKingJack_Sparrow: All right. :)04:05
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shawnr_Can someone help me with using fsck.ext3 on my backup drive!?04:06
shawnr_anyone ??04:06
Jack_SparrowRamiKassab: is there an xorg.conf in a server install..  I always thought Dell and MS were sleeping together ..04:06
sekhardfd should i search for open office04:06
dfdsekhar -- yes, openoffice. It is in the list04:07
shawnr_How can I fix this!?  -  Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda04:07
shawnr_Could this be a zero-length partition?04:07
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RamiKassabJack_Sparrow: not sure04:07
dfdsekhar -- check it and then click on apply to installing it and all its dependency packages04:07
RamiKassabWineO: I don't have an extra one on hand :(04:07
klyickdfd:hey, could ya help me for a sec?04:07
RamiKassabWineO: is there no res setting even for just a terminal?04:07
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WineOJack_Sparrow: This might not be X.  I had the same problem during the first part of my install.  What's the boot parm to change the VGA resolution?04:07
dfdklyick -- if I don't know the question I can't04:07
RamiKassabI'm almost of the point of just installing ssh and doing the rest of the config via that04:08
JKingI recently acquired some hardware that allows me to use use Ubuntu effectively (yaye!), but I've yet to find a messaging client I find sufficient.  I'm looking for something that is either Jabber-capable or Jabber-centric, with the roster and conversations in the same window, much like your typical IRC client.04:08
Jack_SparrowRamiKassab: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:08
klyickdfd: right, well, I'm trying to use IMAP04:08
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klyickdfd: I get this error message04:08
sekhardfd under open office there are a lot of files04:08
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Jack_SparrowGrub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off04:08
JKingSo, I was wondering if more knowledgable minds had any ideas.04:08
WineOJKing: Gaim should do it04:08
klyickdfd:badlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1]  CRAM-MD5 [SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database] 04:08
WineORamiKassab: try Jack_Sparrow's boot options04:09
dfdsekhar -- just select "openoffice", it will automatically select all the main components04:09
RamiKassabJack_Sparrow: nope not yet04:09
disasmJKing: well, my personal favorite is irssi for IRC, bitlbee gateway for others, and occasionally naim for AIM04:09
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whazillawhen apt-get says >> subproces paste was killed by signal (broken pipe)04:09
RamiKassabJack_Sparrow: WineO ok I will try that really quickly04:09
Jack_SparrowNot ALL of them04:09
JKingWineO: Yes?  Perhaps I didn't look at the settings closely enough...04:09
Jack_Sparrow:)04:09
whazillawhat does that mean ?04:09
shawnr_If no one knows, how to help me... could you guys at least say you don't know, so i can go to another chan that can and stop waiting for a response?04:09
whazillawhen apt-get says >> subproces paste was killed by signal (broken pipe)04:09
RamiKassabJack_Sparrow and WineO: thanks for the help guys04:09
whazillawhat does that mean ?04:09
disasmshawnr_: question? i just got here04:09
shawnr_How can I fix this!?  -  Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda04:10
shawnr_Could this be a zero-length partition?04:10
Jack_Sparrowshawnr_: 843 people telling you they dont know is not productive04:10
dfdklyick -- sorry I haven't any experience with IMAP, I don't know how to help you.. try joining a channel related to the software you are using04:10
longwaveshawnr_: what are you trying to do? /dev/sda is an entire disk device, not a partition, which is where you would normally keep a filesystem04:10
klyickdfd: ok thanks04:10
disasmshawnr_: you sure it's not /dev/sda104:10
shawnr_longwave, I got the same message on /dev/sda104:10
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shawnr_fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda104:11
disasmshawnr_: what were you doing when it happened04:11
Jack_Sparrowgood eye longwave04:11
longwaveshawnr_: any other messages in "dmesg" output about /dev/sda?04:11
RamiKassabJack_Sparrow: damn I can't run that because it's just a server install04:11
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shawnr_fsck.ext3 /dev/sda104:11
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RamiKassabxserver isn't even installed04:11
disasmshawnr_: is it an ext3 filesystem?04:11
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longwaveshawnr_: also, what is the output if any of "fdisk -l /dev/sda"04:11
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shawnr_disasm, yea i formatted my usb drive to ext3 this morning04:11
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Jack_SparrowRamiKassab: try vesa or other options04:12
meherenwhat is the command to compile c source code?04:12
disasmshawnr_: is the partition type 83?04:12
phreekbirdmornin ... anyone available to help me with a LAMP install?04:12
Jack_Sparrowshawnr_: How04:12
disasmmeheren: gcc04:12
meherenmeheren@7500:~$ gcc04:12
meherenbash: gcc: command not found04:12
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shawnr_disasm, i ran mkfs.ext304:12
longwavemeheren: "gcc"; you probably want the "build-essential" package installed as it provides all the components you need04:12
disasmmeheren: apt-get install build-essential04:12
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shawnr_longwave, it has no label04:12
meherenok thx04:12
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sekhardfd thanx04:12
dfdsekhar -- no problem, does it work?04:13
longwaveshawnr_: never mind "no label", what partitions does fdisk show, and how big are they?04:13
disasmshawnr_: did you fdisk to change partition type before running mkfs?04:13
Jack_Sparrowshawnr_: Have you looked at the drive with gparted?04:13
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sekharthink so04:13
sekhardfd one more doubt04:13
meherendisasm, i personnally prefer aptitude... but thx04:13
klyickAnyone know anything about Cyrus?04:13
longwavephreekbird: sure, what do you need help with exactly?04:13
longwave!lamp04:13
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ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP04:13
JKingmeheren: Most software use configure scripts and make.  You should read any included README or INSTALL files; they usually have sufficient instructions.04:13
disasmmeheren: yeah, i just never got around to playing with aptitude yet, been using apt since debian potato04:13
Jack_Sparrowdfd: looking at your diary program.. 88 files to load up04:14
phreekbirdfollowing the directions from  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  about installing mysql but i cant do the mysqladmin root password, tells me no mysql running on host ... anyone able to help04:14
whazillawhen apt-get says >> subproces paste was killed by signal (broken pipe)  ... what does this mean ?04:14
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shawnr_disasm, no you didn't tell me that last night lol04:14
meherenJKing, I err wrote the software...04:14
sekhardfd when i log in as root in the dapper there is no synaptic and update manager also but breezy it was there04:14
valehruis there a tool to change one's language input i.e. from english to chinese?04:14
shawnr_longwave, i ran that command in the terminal and nothing was returned04:14
ericrwshawnr_, fdisk -l /dev/sda04:14
disasmshawnr_: lol ;-) I was tired, drinking beer and trying to get kerberos done ;-) sorry04:14
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dfdJack_Sparrow -- mine? That program wasn't mine :-)04:14
madmaxhello there... anyone know how to configure timidity++? i downloaded the ubuntu package from synaptic (including freepats) and i get no sound04:14
Jack_Sparrowsorry04:15
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piphow is Drake Dapper ?04:15
shawnr_/dev/sda1               1       24792   199141708+  83  Linux04:15
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disasmpip: it's great, I love it ;-)04:15
shawnr_wait04:15
disasmshawnr_: that looks right04:15
ericrwshawnr: what about the "Disk" line?04:15
shawnr_disasm, to run fsck does it need to be mounted ?04:15
sivaniconDoes SSH use udp or tcp or both?04:15
disasmshawnr_: no04:15
shawnr_Disk /dev/sda: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes04:15
longwavephreekbird: what does "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" say?04:15
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dfdsekhar -- you do login as root? Better using sudo.. but anyway.. where do you don't see synaptic and update manager? From the gnome menus?04:16
shawnr_ericrw, Disk /dev/sda: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes04:16
JKingmeheren: Oh.  Right. :)04:16
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JKingJust trying to be helpful. :)04:17
=== synod greets =)
meherenJKing, hehe would be nice to have a readme...04:17
pipdisasm, Compared with Breezy04:17
weswh-i have a Dell GX150 that I am running...aside from 1280x1024 resolution having some image tearing and stuff (probably just bad graphics card)...I can't get my NIC to work. No lights are coming on the back of it or anything when plugged in. Could this just be a driver/configuration issue, or does it sound like the card itself might be bad?04:17
JKingI'll bet.04:17
madmaxsivanicon: ssh uses tcp04:17
shawnr_disasm, ericrw, how can i test this drive to make sure its safe to backup my system on it ?04:17
longwavesivanicon: ssh runs over tcp, unless you tunnel it somehow over udp04:17
disasmpip: yeah, things work a lot better than they did with breezy for me at least04:17
Jack_Sparrowweswh-: what chipset on that nic04:17
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weswh-I am not even sure how to look to see if the computer recognizes there is an ethernet card installed at all.04:17
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disasmshawnr_: ultimatebootcd.com, run a vendor hard disk test on it04:17
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madmaxanyone got timidity ubuntu package to run ?04:18
longwaveweswh-: try "lspci" and see if an Ethernet controller is mentioned04:18
shawnr_disasm, its an external04:18
weswh-Jack - from google, the best I can tell is that it might be a 3COM 3C920 - I am still looking into that04:18
Jack_Sparrowweswh-: How about a manual or looking at dell online04:18
shawnr_disasm, and i have no cd's04:18
Jack_Sparrowweswh-: lspci from terminal04:18
disasmshawnr_: i keep forgetting they sell externals... let me think a sec04:18
weswh-longwave, thanks. if I am booted off of the live cd - do I have access to a root level account?04:18
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shawnr_disasm, what i really mean is how can i check the fs04:18
weswh-or can I do lspci without that?04:18
pipdisasm, so great . I have received CDs of installation from Holland,but now I am using RedHat AE04:19
Mastastealthdoes anyone have a zd1211b based wireless adaptor running with network manager?04:19
Jack_Sparrowweswh-: just tpe it04:19
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rambo3haha nice one edgy , spell check for x-chat04:19
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Jack_Sparrow!wireless04:19
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:19
longwaveweswh-: lspci should show you basic info without root, but you can use "sudo lspci" then enter your user password to run commands as root04:19
ericrwshawnr_, use 'smartctl', 'badblocks', and bonnie++04:19
weswh-yep, it shows me a 3com 3c905c04:20
xiampip: hi :)04:20
disasmshawnr_: there is a command badblocks04:20
shawnr_ericrw, i don't have smartctl but i have badblocks04:20
ericrwshawnr_, smartctl will let you access the disk's internal smart capabilities (which do self-tests), badblocks to scan for bad blocks... and bonnie as as stress-test04:20
MastastealthJack: I've read through the documentation. I got the key working, but network manager doesn't seem to pick it up04:20
weswh-longwave - off of the livecd boot i never entered a pasword anywhere.04:20
pipxiam, hi04:20
Mastastealthnor auto config my WPA04:20
pipxiam, glad to meet you04:20
longwaveweswh-: no, on the live cd there is no password needed, but when you have installed you will have a password set for your account04:20
disasmshawnr_: have to be root to use it, so sudo badblocks, not sure of the syntax04:20
ericrwshawnr_, 'apt-get install smartctl'.. although it might not work on sata disks.04:20
ericrwI've used it on pata and scsi disks04:21
longwaveweswh-: that 3com card is supported by linux so you should be ok to use it04:21
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weswh-but, i got the info regardless. so it sees it there, i would think the driver would be loaded at boot - how can i attempt to do it manually? the switch doesn't recognize that anything is connected to it.04:21
shawnr_ericrw, just do: sudo badblocks /dev/sda  ?  or sda104:21
gravesonis there a cli torrent client04:21
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disasmpip: so do you have a specific question about dapper, or just asking?04:21
nickspoonanyone have any idea what "Aug 29 15:08:57 localhost hcid[10779] : Can't get system message bus name: Connection ":1.9" is not allowed to own the service "org.bluez" due to security policies in the configuration file" means?04:21
xiampip: so you don't remember me :\, ok, then glad to meet you again :P04:21
longwavegraveson: the mainline bittorrent client runs in the console, there is also "rtorrent"04:22
hkBstdo ubuntu livecd's run a kernel logger?04:22
ericrwshawnr_:  badblocks -s /dev/sda04:22
disasmnickspoon: hmmm, looks like you're trying to get bluetooth working, right?04:22
nickspoondisasm: correct.04:22
Jack_Sparrowlongwave:  I would think he should try to take it down then back up but I am not the cli guy..04:22
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Jack_Sparrowlongwave: He as in shawnr_04:22
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pipdisasm, I am going to use 6.06 in one month.Thank you04:22
ericrwshawnr_: if the disk is new, you can also do a destructive test.. provide -w04:22
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lizzhello well04:23
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disasmnickspoon: been a while... can you paste your config on a pastebin?04:23
lizzhelp me04:23
lizznow04:23
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disasmlizz: what seems to be the problem ;-)04:23
lizzmy internal modem is a HCF04:23
nickspoondisasm: which one?04:23
shawnr_ericrw, ok its running04:23
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longwaveweswh-: try "sudo modprobe 3c509", that may load the driver if it is not already there04:24
pipxiam, we can talk something else @ #kubuntu-offtopic04:24
ericrwanyone here know why I keep getting /dev/disk/ entries even after removing 65-persistent-disk.rules from udev?04:24
weswh-longwave - my bad, i had cable problems.04:24
xiampip: I've just seen you in another channel and I came here say hi!, don't worry, see you later :P04:24
disasmnickspoon: what ones are there? Haven't played with it since I switched to verizon and lost my OBEX support04:24
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longwaveweswh-: ah, ok :)04:24
weswh-now i do have lights etc. now it seems like i just need to do a 'dhcp renew' or something04:24
disasmlizz: what chipset?04:24
weswh-and i should be gold04:24
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longwaveweswh-: "sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0" will renew the IP address for eth004:24
nickspoondisasm: only one I've changed is /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf04:24
DyskAnyone know if there's a later version of kismet available than the one that installs default w/dapper?04:25
disasmnickspoon: ok, that one04:25
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Jack_Sparrowlongwave: Thanks.. that is the one I could not remember.. I saved it for future use.. :)04:25
lizzdisasm, conexant04:25
nickspoondisasm: http://rafb.net/paste/results/g0LPRR88.html04:26
disasmlizz: hmmm... is that the one that isn't free for the driver... can't remember04:26
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chrhi there...i have another computer at home running windows xp and the two pcs are connected with crossover cable...is it easy to share files with that windows pc by using ubuntu...04:26
nickspoonchr: yes.04:26
Jack_Sparrowdisasm: yes, winmodem heds "Fee" drivers to get over 14.404:27
lizzdisasm, not work with linux?04:27
Dyskchr, Have a look at system->administration->Shared folders04:27
Jack_Sparrow!samba > chr:04:27
disasmlizz: i know the project I do with a couple people in the area collecting old systems, installing ubuntu and giving the systems away, we throw away any conexants, the lucents I think we have gotten to work though04:27
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shawnr_Any chance I can get the Xubuntu alternate install cd to install on a system with 16 megs of ram ;p  ?04:27
weswh-sweet, that worked. kind of strange - my screen blacked out for about 3 seconds in the middle of the renewal. but came back up and i'm online :P04:27
Dyskshawnr_, Probably not04:28
lizzdisasm, http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/downloads-installer.php04:28
disasmlizz: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3609104:28
shawnr_Dysk, i got debian sarge to install and run on it ;p04:28
synodhey guys.. how secure ubuntu really is ?04:28
Jack_SparrowTime for me to get some work done, good luck all...04:28
disasmoh... hcf, not hsf, i hate those conexants...04:28
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PingunZsynod: try google, I never had a virus with ubuntu04:29
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nickspoondisasm: the first device, a mobile phone, works for file transfer. the second device, a Sony Clie TG50 (PDA) doesn't.04:29
disasmnickspoon: that looks good...04:29
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disasmnickspoon: have you got the second one paired?04:30
synodwhat about general security.. cuz I know slackware is built like 'security in mind'04:30
nickspoondisasm: yes.04:30
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synodim currious..04:30
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disasmsynod: ubuntu has security repos where packages with found holes get patched and released outside of the normal release schedule, I'm not sure if that's what you're asking04:34
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synodim not sure what im asking myself.. ;)04:34
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disasmsynod: are you looking at a server setup or desktop?04:35
synoddesktop04:35
Oni-Draculabeep.04:35
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adolo04:36
ShoeUnited!repos04:36
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource04:36
ShoeUnited!easysource04:36
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:36
adohey guys try this04:36
adohttp://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=microsoft&meta=04:36
disasmsynod: well, unless you're comfortable with iptables, I'd recommend one of those user firewall handholders I've never used, it's probably not worth compiling your kernel with the selinux sources for a desktop, make sure all ports are blocked, no processes running, and when synaptic tells you there are packages to download, download them.04:36
shawnr_synod, i think the real questions is... what are you doing on your computer that you need to be so worried about security ;p04:36
adocheck the results in firefox compaired to IE04:37
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disasmshawnr_: lol ;-)04:37
adoGoogle are giving different results depending on the browser you are using04:37
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Oni-Draculayou could just have firefox report no browser version :)04:38
disasmado: no ie to test your results ;-)04:38
rambo3ado "ubuntu-offtopic04:38
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shawnr_ado, what was the point of that ?04:38
Juhazexactly the same results on the first page. not that I'm going to browse all 910 million of them04:38
ShoeUnitedFirefox gets paid by google.04:38
synodshawnr_: well.. is there anything to be not secure-sure about ?04:39
adoyes it is on topic I've just installed ubuntu and now I'm getting less results from google because I 'm not using IE04:39
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helikoptikhello!04:39
longwaveado are you sure of this? give us an example url please04:39
Oni-DraculaI have a feeling, however, there is other data being sent to google when you do searches...such as those found in COOKIES!04:39
shawnr_synod, what are you using your computer for? are you the only user04:39
adolook at the first link04:39
nickspoonmm, cookies.04:39
helikoptikanyone has an example for loading the flash plugin?04:39
fijamhello04:39
fijamado: how is it?04:39
longwaveado: results are the same for me in ie and firefox04:39
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fijamado: they must be04:40
longwaveado: only difference is an extra advert for vmware in IE that i am not seeing in firefox04:40
adodo you get the sub links index ??? on the first results returned04:40
shawnr_ado, do any of us ever really go through all of googles 3 million results04:40
longwavewhat, the "developer tools/for partners/worldwide/at home" bit? yes04:40
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synodperfect config would be with vmware( so that I can run macromedia flash) and to feel good about allround security of my box04:40
shawnr_ado, so what if we get a little less lol04:40
adoMicrosoft CorporationThe entry page to Microsoft's Web site. Find software, solutions, answers, support, and Microsoft news.04:40
adowww.microsoft.com/ - 31k - Cached - Similar pages04:41
adoDeveloper Tools - http://msdn.microsoft.com/04:41
adoFor Partners - http://partner.microsoft.com/04:41
adoWorldwide - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=441289104:41
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adoAt Home - http://www.microsoft.com/athome/04:41
adoMore results from www.microsoft.com 04:41
adothats the resuts in IE04:41
shawnr_that wasn't really nice04:41
adofire fox results for first link "Microsoft Corporation"04:41
adoSorry04:41
shawnr_ado, take this  to off topic04:41
longwaveado: this may be a result of the "google dance" where some google servers are updated while others are yet to catch up04:41
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longwaveado: but really this is not an ubuntu problem, complain to google if you think your search results are tainted04:41
shawnr_ado, actually i don't know if your aware... but google is all about open source04:42
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shawnr_ado, all their computer runs linux04:42
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shawnr_ado, i actually think i recently read a story that they switched to ubuntu04:42
adoI know thats why I'm annoyed I though that they would show the same results for everyone04:42
shawnr_i think your taking this too hard04:43
pontifexand in the wrong place04:43
longwaveado: you don't have google's Personalized Search enabled? that shows different results for different people04:43
nickspoonAnyone here happen to be familiar with bluetooth?04:43
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adoom i'll drop it04:43
adolongwave nope04:43
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fijamI have a question, why TOR users are banned from #ubuntu?04:44
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disasmfijam: what are TOR users?04:44
adoOK got to go back to work later and sorry for ranting04:44
fijamtor onion routing04:44
fijamask google :)04:44
fijamfreenode is one of the few irc servers that support it04:45
ompaulfijam, due to abuse, their help to abuse ratio made it useless to the channel, they are advised to join #ubuntu-ops where they are advised to get a personal cloak04:45
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fijamompaul: ok, I see04:45
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ompaulfijam, they were let in recently but straight away some people thought it was funny to wreck the usefulness of the channel to users new and old alike, so they got removed04:46
longwaveit is a shame that things like tor and freenet are good, valuable ideas but that certain people have to destroy it for everyone else04:46
helikoptiki am looking for an example of loading a flash file by using the linux flash plugin for mozilla. anyone?04:47
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helikoptikwithout mozilla04:47
fijamthere are people and people, as they say04:47
sexcopter8000mhi, i want to define a cron task to run once a month, say on the 1st of the month. will something like "0 0 1 * * the_command" work?04:47
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disasmsexcopter8000m: just put a shell script in /etc/cron.monthly04:48
disasmsexcopter8000m: but yes, that will work04:48
sexcopter8000moh sweet, thanks disasm :)04:49
disasmsexcopter8000m: waith04:49
disasmsexcopter8000m: you need the user before the command04:49
sexcopter8000mdisasm, was just a little confused, according to wikipedia the 3rd and 5th fields act like OR04:49
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trappistdisasm: not in his own crontab04:49
trappistsexcopter8000m: if you just crontab -e, the line will work as-is04:49
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sexcopter8000mok, so if i put it in /etc/cron.monthly i need to specify a file, but using crontab it's ok as is?04:50
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sexcopter8000mcool04:50
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longwavesexcopter8000m: yes, the 3rd and 5th fields are ORed if you specify both, because saying day of month AND day of week rarely makes sense04:50
frfxwhich is the fastest and lightest pdf reader? evince or acroread?04:50
longwavesexcopter8000m: "man 5 crontab" has the full documentation on that04:50
trappistsexcopter8000m: cron.monthly is a directory where you would just drop a script04:50
disasmsexcopter8000m: using your crontab, not /etc/crontab04:50
trappistfrfx: definitely not acroread04:50
vincenzfrfx: personally I prefer acroread, it responds better imho04:50
disasmsexcopter8000m: if it's in /etc/crontab 0 0 1 0 0 user command04:51
vincenzevince can hang at times when reading big pdfs04:51
frfxbut it is for an older system..04:51
POVaddctfrfx: try xpdf04:51
sexcopter8000mlongwave, how can you *not* specify a field? do you mean by placing an asterisk?04:51
longwavesexcopter8000m: yes, use a *04:51
WineOAll here's a weird one: I installed dapper to a new box (amd x2 3800 with SATA hard drive). After reboot I ran update to update everything.  Next reboot failed since boot flag had been turned off in my boot partition.  Is this a known problem or expected behaviour?04:51
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sexcopter8000mok04:51
sexcopter8000mthink i've got the idea now, thanks guys04:51
frfxPOVaddct: ok i will try that thanks guys04:52
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ericrwWineO, dunno, but I'm fairly unhappy with Ubuntu's treatment to my storage devices.04:52
longwavesexcopter8000m: so if you said 0 0 1 * 1 it would run on the first of every month AND on every Monday, but if you said 0 0 1 * * it would only run on the first of every month04:52
VincentMX#*$!04:52
VincentMXmicrosoft is using Firefox's rss icon in ie704:52
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JimmeyMy NFS server keeps denying permission to all hosts that try to connect, even though I've explicitly allowed all hosts on the network I'm using to connect04:53
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longwaveVincentMX: mozilla released that icon for anyone to use so RSS feeds can have a consistent icon across sites and browsers04:53
greataukI'm getting a ped_disk_new error when trying to install and I'm wondering whether anyone can help?04:53
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zeronenorezhello, who can edit grub/menu.lst?04:53
Mastastealthsudo04:53
disasmWineO: hmmm i don't think the boot flag is needed on the partition as long as grub is in the mbr04:54
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disasmzeronenorez: anyone with root access ;-)04:54
WARlrusI've just loaded up a version of Ubuntu on a live disk, is there any easy way to just install it onto the hard disk from that live interface?04:54
rambo3zeronenorez, with gedit04:54
WineOzeronenorez: anyone in sudoers.  try sudoedit, or sudo -s then nano04:54
Jimmeyzeronenorez, try "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak; gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"04:54
zeronenorezi know04:54
zeronenorezi want to make another system boot default04:54
longwaveWARlrus: yes, click the installer icon on the desktop. this is how most people install ubuntu :)04:54
WARlrusThere isn't an installer icon04:55
WARlrusIt just says "cdrom" and thats it04:55
longwaveWARlrus: which live cd is this?04:55
user687hi all! i've been trying to install ubuntu 6.06.1 Desktop on a 64-bit processor. But the installation freezes everytime at "copying files". I've already tried so many things: memtest, iso is ok, i always format / with ext3, ... what can be wrong?04:55
WARlrusIts one I downloaded from the site04:56
zeronenorez# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS04:56
zeronenorez# on /dev/hda104:56
zeronenoreztitleMicrosoft Windows XP Professional04:56
zeronenorezroot(hd0,0)04:56
zeronenorezsavedefault04:56
zeronenorezmakeactive04:56
zeronenorezchainloader+104:56
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longwave!paste04:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:56
WARlrusand put onto a disk04:56
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disasmuser687: did you verify the cd?04:56
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disasmuser687: and the iso you burned?04:56
WARlrushow do I do that?04:56
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longwaveWARlrus: yes, but which version? ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake or something else? if it is 6.06 there should be a desktop icon for installing...04:56
user687disasm: yes, it was ok04:56
WARlrusyes, it was the ISO04:56
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greataukI have two harddrives, but they're configured so that Windows only sees them as one C: drive so the latter has an invalid partition table04:57
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zeronenorezchange savedefault=> savedefault 004:57
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Tjoels60sasHey04:57
PenthiuL2bien le bonjour04:57
Tjoels60sasCrazed, are you here?04:57
longwave!fr04:57
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:57
disasmuser687: could also try the alternate cd if you are still having problems...04:57
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zeronenorezto change  savedefault=> savedefault 0  will make the system boot as default?04:57
longwaveuser687: yes, i would also try the alternate cd if the live cd will not install for you04:57
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greataukanyone know: if I install Kubuntu on one of them, will Windows be corrupt?04:58
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niklas_eI can suspend my computer and I added the right device in the kernel, but do I need to change something in the grub or what can be wrong if it doesn't do anything exept seems to read from the harddisk and the stops and nothing happens04:58
longwavegreatauk: is that a RAID 0 setup or windows dynamic disks?04:58
user687disasm: ok, i will have a try. thx for advice!04:58
disasmzeronenorez: savedefault will make it so when you select it, it makes it the default, there should be a default line at top with a number04:58
zeronenorezgreatauk,u can use another account when u want Kubuntu04:58
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longwavegreatauk: if it is RAID 0 in hardware it should work, if it is dynamic disks i would definitely make a backup before letting any partition editors make any changes04:58
TjoelsYo04:58
sobersabrehi guys. I am planning to spend some money on a harddisk for a laptop. do you think this seagate 'Momentum' of 160GB is worth spending ?04:59
WARlrusfrom what I can tell, the disk is version 5.1004:59
zeronenorezdisasm, really? i'll try04:59
greataukthink it is RAID04:59
disasmuser687: i know the alternate one works right, I used it to install my opteron server04:59
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WARlruswhere can I download that from?04:59
longwaveWARlrus: ah, 5.10 is an old version now, the live cd and the install cd were different back then. if you download 6.06 then the live cd has an install icon on the desktop.04:59
greataukthanks04:59
WARlrusoh right04:59
sobersabrewhat sounds well to me is that it is 7200 RPM04:59
WARlrusthanks :)04:59
WARlrusI'll just put that onto a disk now and have another go04:59
TjoelsCrazed, are you here?05:00
TjoelsCrazed Hey05:00
disasmzeronenorez: for savedefault to work, default must be set to saved05:00
WARlrusis there a definitive way of finding out which version I've got?05:00
chri just went to sharred folders menu and then prompts me to install samba and i did it...how can i then see and share the files that are on my windows pc....05:00
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WARlrusbecause I just went into "About Ubuntu" then on "Core Components" it was talking about 5.1005:00
zeronenorezdisasm, how?05:00
longwaveWARlrus: that is almost definitely 5.10 then05:00
WARlrusokay thank you :)05:00
WARlrusI will be back again shortly ;)05:01
longwavehehe ok :)05:01
zeronenorezdisasm,# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.05:01
zeronenorezdefault0   ?05:01
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WARlrusI think I'll need the alternative CD, because its an old computer and I don't think there's much RAM in it05:02
WARlrusis it just as easy to use?05:02
fijamtext-mode installation is quite intuitional05:03
WARlrusokay, I'll try the original first then05:03
WARlrusand see how it goes05:03
fijam*intuitive05:03
disasmzeronenorez: yeah, set default 0 to either number starting at 0 from top, or savedefault to save the previous booted system05:03
longwaveWARlrus: yes, text mode installation is not that different from the gui installer, and you can always get help here if you get stuck (and have a separate computer to chat on of course :) )05:03
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WARlrusah, I'm chatting on a separate computer now lol05:04
disasmzeronenorez: then in your list of options make sure savedefault is in the stanza05:04
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WARlrusits an old machine I've aquired, and want to install Linux on it05:04
fijamhow much ram does it have?05:04
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WARlrusnot bothered to open it up yet, I would suspect at least 128mb05:04
disasmzeronenorez: you aren't using software raid, are you?05:05
fijamAnd processor?05:05
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zeronenorezdisasmgot it05:05
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WARlrusIntel Pentium 3 processor05:05
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zeronenorezdisasm,raid ? to do what?05:05
rambo358605:05
nite_w0lfhow often are the ububtu repositories upgraded>05:05
fijamWARlrus: should be fine05:05
shawnr_disasm, wow... how long is badblocks going to take... its STILL running lol05:05
WARlrusI know it used to network boot windows 9805:05
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disasmzeronenorez: don't worry about it, if you were, you'd know05:06
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longwaveshawnr_: badblocks can take *hours* to run on a large drive05:06
disasmzeronenorez: software raid breaks when set to savedefault05:06
longwaveshawnr_: it took about 18 hours to scan a 250gb drive i had (admittedly with some errors, but still)05:06
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djallikat{SM}hi, i'm just wondering if the spec of machine i'm intending installing Ubuntu is too low... i just wiped SuSE off as it was way too slow05:06
disasmshawnr_: i don't know, a while, probly about the same time it would take to do a thorough scandisk of the drive in windows05:06
disasmshawnr_: i'd give it 8 hours or so05:06
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fijamdjallikat{SM}: yes...05:06
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longwavedjallikat{SM}: try xubuntu on lower spec machines, the desktop is not as demanding as gnome.. if you tell us the specs we can probably advise you a bit more05:07
shawnr_longwave, what happens if i kill the terminal.... will it damage the fs?05:07
djallikat{SM}fijam: lol... it's SMP celeron 400s, 384mb ram, TnT2 AGP graphics...05:07
zeronenorezdisasm,Couldn't found the package raid05:07
fijamdjallikat{SM}: I'd ercommend xubuntu05:07
djallikat{SM}thanks guys05:07
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longwaveshawnr_: no, badblocks is non-destructive (well as long as you didn't run it with one of the destructive flags), so you can ctrl-c it to stop it at any time05:07
Ash-Foxdjallikat{SM}, I have kubuntu running on a 266mhz pII, 192MB of ram.05:07
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fijamdjallikat{SM}: I'm presonally running one on Celeron 400 128RAM and it's just fine05:08
disasmzeronenorez: don't worry about it, it's quite a process to setup a dmraid, so I'm pretty sure you aren't using it05:08
Angryelfhey all, is there a linux/ubuntu program that is similar to veritas backup exec?05:08
zeronenorezdisasm i use sudo apt-get install raid05:08
shawnr_longwave, if it finds an error will it stop to ask me if i want to try and fix it ?05:08
fijamAsh-Fox: KDE on such a slow processor is usable?05:08
djallikat{SM}so, which download has which window manager? i kinda like kde...05:08
disasmzeronenorez: i don't think you want to setup a raid, you need identical hd's (at least 2, preferable 3+)05:08
jumpeingposdrafiam fszystkich Polakf05:08
TjoelsHow can you read text files from the non graphical console?05:08
disasmzeronenorez: it's just the savedefault will break your raid if you had set one up05:09
djallikat{SM}type *filename* | less05:09
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longwaveshawnr_: badblocks will just output the list of bad sectors, but modern hard drives will detect and remember any bad sectors that they find during this scanning process05:09
Ash-Foxfijam, of course it is. Plus, unlike gnome, it shares a lot of libraries with many applications, so I save memory when I use KDE and KDE apps05:09
fijamdjallikat{SM}: ubuntu is Gnome, Kubuntu is KDE an Xubuntu is xfce05:09
longwaveshawnr_: of course if there are a lot of bad blocks it is probably worth just throwing the drive away and getting a new one05:09
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sirion2hello all05:10
whazillawhat package is --unpack ?05:10
disasmhey sirion205:10
zeronenorezdisasm, i see05:10
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whazillai need to reinstall it05:10
isilduris opera not part of the ubuntu ressources?05:10
TjoelsHow can i open a text file from the console=05:10
djallikat{SM}fijam: preffer KDE to Gnome, and never tried xfce.. is it good?05:10
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disasmwhazilla: ?05:10
fijamAsh-Fox: but it takes a while to boot, doesn't it?05:10
sirion2i don't found the list of the package of unbutu desktop05:10
longwaveTjoels: use "cat file.txt" to show the entire file, or "less file.txt" to be able to scroll up and down with the cursor keys05:10
sirion2there are graveman ?05:10
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whazillai get an apt-get error disasm05:10
fijamdjallikat{SM}: lightweight yet very usable05:10
Tjoelslongwave: thx05:10
djallikat{SM}thanks fijam05:10
whazillawhen apt-get firefox says error in unpack05:10
fijamdjallikat{SM}: starts in like 15 seconds05:11
disasmwhazilla: apt-get install firefox?05:11
whazillanope05:11
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whazilladistro update05:11
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whazillaso allso firefox05:11
whazillabut error in unpack of firefox05:11
disasmwhazilla: so apt-get dist-upgrade?05:11
djallikat{SM}nice fijam05:11
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sirion2somebody can help me ?05:11
disasmwhazilla: delete the firefox deb, and run again05:11
fijamsirion2: what's your problem?05:11
whazillawher is it ?05:11
disasmsirion2: details?05:11
phreekbirdwow ... wired news feed  http://www.wired.com/news/technology/software/0,71660-0.html?tw=rss.index05:12
phreekbirdpretty freakin kool05:12
rambo3whazilla, sudo apt -get -f install05:12
whazillak found thkx05:12
weswh-when i go above a 1024x768 resolution - i have a usable image, but it has pink and yellow vertical lines through it - does this sound like bad hardware? or could it be driver related? when i drop to 1024x768, i am fine. (i am not sure exactly what the graphics chipset is though it might be an nvidia tnt2 - trying to dig into that)05:12
disasmwhazilla: /var/cache/apt/archives05:12
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whazillawhat's cmd for filebrowser ?05:12
djallikat{SM}will there be a problem trying to install a full 3d enabled TNT2 x-server on kubuntu?  i tried it on SuSE and could only get a 2d x-server05:12
whazillarambo i did that05:12
longwavesirion2: the package list for ubuntu-desktop can be found here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/ubuntu-desktop - if that's what you mean05:12
sirion2i would like known if graveman is in the ubuntu desktop (livecd) ?05:12
sirion2thanks longwave05:12
disasmwhazilla: gnome-terminal :-P actually it's nautilus05:13
longwavesirion2: as graveman is in universe, i doubt it is on the live cd05:13
sirion2:/05:13
weswh-it could also be an intel graphics chipset...just not sure05:13
sirion2nothing for burn longwave ?05:13
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shawnr_longwave, like every 20-30 blocks i get a line like this: "1412653   1412653/       199148544"  is this an error ?05:13
zeronenorezdisasm, thx a lot05:13
disasmsirion2: graveman is in multiverse/universe iirc05:13
disasmzeronenorez: no problem05:14
sirion2i don't understand05:14
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sirion2i don't like nautilus-cd-burner05:14
disasmsirion2: it's not on the live cd, but if you install ubuntu you can get it, or remaster the live cd to have it05:14
longwaveshawnr_: i think that is badblocks just counting its way through the sectors05:14
sirion2is posible to install graveman in livecd ?05:14
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longwaveshawnr_: look in "dmesg" to see if there are any error messages from the drive, though05:14
shawnr_sirion2, works well for me05:14
djallikat{SM}weswh- : could be bad memory on the video card, or a bad x-server05:14
sirion2i don't want to install ubuntu disasm05:14
disasmsirion2: yeah, just not easy ;-)05:15
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sirion2jsute boot in desktop for burn dvd05:15
shawnr_longwave, how? im not good with dmesg... what command should i use?05:15
thansenwhere can I find the necessary files to pxe boot an edgy install?05:15
sirion2disasm, ?05:15
Trinitrogenanyone have a little experience with wpasupplicant?05:15
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sirion2what not easy ?05:15
longwaveshawnr_: just "dmesg", or "dmesg | less" will let you scroll through with the cursor keys (press q to quit)05:15
bobhey, this mgiht seem really simple: how do i rename a whole directory of '.JPG' to '.jpg'? mv *.JPG *.jpg doesnt work...05:15
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Tjoelslongwave: when i pressed the "less" command, how do i then quit the scroll mode?05:16
disasmsirion2: this is probly the easiest, I do it by hand though: http://uck.sourceforge.net/05:16
longwaveTjoels: press q05:16
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Tjoelslongwave: thx again :P05:16
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shawnr_!dmsg05:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dmsg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
shawnr_!dmesg05:16
disasmbob: it's not simple, i have a bash script that'll do it though, let me find it05:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
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sirion2but, with the livecd disasm, is posible to install graveman ?05:17
bobdisasm: ta, hmm, its mad theres not a simple way of doing it...05:17
longwavebob: there is no simple way, though this should work: rename 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG05:17
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FRETHey all05:17
bobdoh, its seeing .JPG and .jpg as the same file. argh.05:18
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disasmbob: gentux.org/rename05:18
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bobta, thanks :)05:18
disasmbob: it'll need some modifying05:18
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fallingdutchwhat do i need to get cryptsetup running in the initramdisk? have a static compiled cryptsetup wich is working so far, but i get the error of device-mapper: "device-mapper: unknown target device" and "device-mapper: error adding target to table" any ideas?05:18
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sirion2i found this: http://www.sylbal.net/papugLinux/papugOverview.html05:19
bobi think ill be able to work it with rename, ive always just used mv but yeah05:19
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whazilladisasm05:22
whazillait still gives same error05:22
whazillawhen i deleted the package05:22
whazillait refetched and tried install with same error05:22
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sirion2when i can install graveman in the live cd ?05:23
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rambo3is that a question05:23
sirion2?05:24
fijamwhat do you mean by 'when'?05:24
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naliothsirion2: any time you like (as long as you have a free burning drive available)05:25
rambo3you can install on live cd if that is the question05:25
sirion2sorry05:25
sirion2how05:25
sirion2not when05:25
sirion2:/05:25
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sirion2how i can install graveman in the live cd ?05:25
jrib!info graveman05:25
ubotugraveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-4-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 690 kB, installed size 2424 kB05:25
jrib!universe > sirion205:26
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naliothsirion2: you use synaptic, just like in a regular install05:26
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jribsirion2: enable universe and then use system > administration > synaptic to install it05:26
sirion2enable universe ?05:26
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fijam!repositories05:26
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:26
sirion2ok for synaptic05:26
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disasmwhazilla: not sure, will it install any other package?05:27
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nite_w0lfwill packages from edgy work with dapper?05:31
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jbroomethat's playing with fire!05:32
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g333k_workdo I need to use "sudo" with ssh ?05:32
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nite_w0lfim running MEPIS6 so untill now im not to familier with ubuntu and i dont know the diff between the kernals if any05:33
jribg333k_work: no05:33
Jack_Sparrownite_w0lf: what cpu do you have05:34
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nite_w0lfathlon 230005:34
bobjones_hi all, i have a problem with xsane, it only detect my scanner if i run it as root? so it must be a permission error, how do i find out what though?05:34
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westerfunkalrighty, have a problem ... I'm an idiot n00b and recursively changed group permissions to read/write on /etc folder to my username group "webadmin", now I can't change the permissions back to the root group, help!05:34
westerfunkand I can't go into superuser mode because I never changed the password on root05:35
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longwavewesterfunk: boot from a live cd and mount the partition with /etc, that will be easiest05:35
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westerfunkand I can't sudo because the permissions changed on the /etc folder05:35
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wasabi_gnome-settings-daemon has been giving me trouble for a few weeks. it's unable to set the xkb configuration. anybody able to explain what it's attempting to do, so I can go about debugging it?05:36
g333k_workis there a way to avoid using SUDO ? I need to do a script... so as you know sudo ask you for the password the first time of using a command... then you dont know when it is going for the password again, so I want to do a script knowing that05:36
enumwesterfunk: i agree with longwave, use live cd05:36
kyjawhy doesn't amarok play the radio stream ? it thinks its playing it but there is no sound.05:36
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longwavewesterfunk: almost everything in /etc should be owned by root:root except shadow and gshadow which should be owned by root:shadow05:36
naliothwesterfunk: i suspect your easiest way back from that would be a reinstall05:36
enumwesterfunk: try to chmod /etc/sudoers to 66605:36
illu45I've got a quick question... I downloaded a .tgz file with some fonts in it, but I'm not sure how to install them05:36
enumwesterfunk: and then sudo05:36
naliothwesterfunk: have you tried booting into the 'rescue' session?05:36
kd3:~$ lsof | grep storage05:37
kd3lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev05:37
kd3      Output information may be incomplete.05:37
westerfunknot at the machine physically right now05:37
kd3what is this?05:37
westerfunkremoting in from work05:37
naliothenum: that won't work unless he has 'sudo' power in the first place05:37
naliothkd3: please don't paste in here05:37
nalioth!tell kd3 about pastebin05:37
jrib!fonts > illu4505:37
kd3its 3 lines05:37
enumnalioth: westerfunk has chown /etc to his group05:37
kd3anyway, what is that?05:37
enumnalioth: i think he can chmod05:37
naliothkd3: type /topic <enter> please05:38
naliothenum: maybe it'll work for him05:38
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longwavekd3: well, what did you mount at /dev/.static/dev? is it listed in "mount" output?05:38
illu45jrib, thanks :)05:38
enumwesterfunk: try chmod05:38
westerfunkyeah I tried, not permitted05:38
enumwesterfunk: what's your /etc and /etc/sudoers perm?05:39
longwavewesterfunk: because you changed the owner/group on /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and so on, PAM may be confused about who can log in as what, which could be why you can't sudo or whatever05:39
kd3longwave: what? i don't get it05:39
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westerfunkshoort05:39
westerfunkshoot05:39
longwavekd3: you say "what is this", what are you expecting to find? what is mounted at that mount point?05:39
kd3longwave: i was trying to "lsof | grep storage"05:39
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rambo3westerfunk, sudo chown  root sudoers05:40
kd3and i got that error thing05:40
longwavekd3: maybe try "sudo lsof | grep storage", lsof cannot see root-only information without sudo05:40
longwaverambo3: how will that work if he can't run sudo in the first place?05:40
longwaverambo3: you can't fix sudo with sudo ;)05:40
kd3oh ic05:40
CarlFKhow can I install gcc v4.0 ?05:41
enumwesterfunk: can u modify /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd ?05:41
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naliothCarlFK: use synaptic05:41
westerfunkI can see them but it won't let me modify them05:41
enumoh05:41
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rambo3longwave, then without sudo05:41
longwavewesterfunk: when /etc is messed up booting into a live cd is often the easiest and quickest way to fix it05:41
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CarlFKnalioth: I don't have X on that box05:41
naliothCarlFK: then use apt-get   :)05:42
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CarlFKnalioth: that was the plan.. but.. um.. how?05:42
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enumwesterfunk: what's /etc/passwd perm? 644 ?05:42
reptyleCarlFK, apt-get install gcc gcc-4.005:42
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fijamCarlFK: sudo apt-get install gcc05:42
westerfunkhow do I find out?05:42
Jack_SparrowAnyone getting random restarts of X from some of the screensavers?05:42
reptylethough gcc defaults to installing 4.0.05:43
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enumwesterfunk: ls -l /etc/passwd05:43
westerfunkthanks ... hang on05:43
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naliothCarlFK: sudo apt-get install $PKG ?05:43
fijamJack_Sparrow: no :)05:44
CarlFKreptyle: ah - edgy has 4.1 - dapper 4.0.  to the dapper box - thanks.05:44
g333k_workHi I just created my dsa public key (with no passphrase), now if I want to access to the remote PC do I need to copy my public key to there?05:44
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westerfunk-rw-rw-r--05:45
Jack_Sparrowfijam: It is random... and I have not added any screensavers..05:45
illu45!openoffice05:45
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".05:45
westerfunkenum: -rw-rw-r--05:46
fijamJack_Sparrow: do you have current xorg core?05:46
Jack_Sparrowfijam: Everything should be current05:46
westerfunkenum: after that it says "root webadmin"05:46
Ademanhow come my autotools isn't at the newest version? (mines 1.4 newest appears to be 1.9 at least in the ubuntu repositories)05:46
enumwesterfunk: what's user/group? is that your group?05:46
mondoWhat's the easiest way to use video/audio chat, besides Ekiga? Basically what i'm looking for is an IM program with vid/audio integrated, like MSN messenger.05:46
enumwesterfunk: ok05:46
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fijamJack_Sparrow: OpenGL screensavers?05:46
enumwesterfunk: webadmin <-- is that your group05:46
westerfunkenum: webadmin is my group05:46
Jack_Sparrowyes05:46
westerfunkyes05:46
enumwesterfunk: ok ok05:46
enumwesterfunk: u can modify it05:47
fijamJack_Sparrow: try fiddling with graphic card drivers05:47
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longwaveg333k_work: yes, put the ssh-dsa bit in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote server and then you can use your private key to connect after that05:47
Jack_Sparrowfijam: It happens very seldom, not going to mess with it..05:47
enumwesterfunk: try this -------              echo "toor:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash" >> /etc/passwd05:47
fijamJack_Sparrow: as you wish05:47
Jack_Sparrowfijam: thanks anyhow.05:47
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fijamno problem05:48
lizzubuntu is a shit05:48
enumwesterfunk: and... what's your /etc/shadow  perm/user/group05:48
Jack_Sparrowfijam: Ill be restoring from an earlier backup in a day or two..05:48
westerfunkenum: I did that and it just returned to prompt05:48
Jack_Sparrowfijam: If it persists then I will work on it05:48
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westerfunkI assumed it did somethig05:48
zeronenorezlizz, lol05:49
fijamlizz: why do you think so?05:49
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roberi no9 s05:49
fijamJack_Sparrow: ok.05:49
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lizzis a close distribuition05:49
longwavewesterfunk: beware that what enum just told you to do has added a new root-level user to your system with the username "toor", if you were not aware of what that does05:49
westerfunkyeah I saw that05:49
westerfunkthanks though, appreciate it05:50
westerfunkI know some, just not enough :)05:50
enumwesterfunk can u modify shadow too ?05:50
westerfunkenough to be dangerous, obviously05:50
Jack_Sparrow:)05:50
westerfunklet me hckec05:50
enumwesterfunk: i've use this trick on my slackware05:50
westerfunkenum: -rw-rw----05:51
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westerfunkenum: root webadmin 78705:51
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g333k_worklongwave, but when I try to do that it asks me for a password, I put the password for the user I'm using to connect but nothing05:51
enumwesterfunk:   $ chmod 644 /etc/passwd /etc/shadow05:52
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westerfunkenum: operation not permitted05:52
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Ozuxhikenboot, how can I change locale settings? I want to add a nes locale to my Ubuntu, In debian I do: dpkg-reconfigure locales but in Ubuntu it don't let me to changing!05:52
kyjawhy doesn't amarok play the radio stream ? it thinks its playing it but there is no sound.05:52
maria_warraoperation chupar05:52
maria_warrai like penis05:53
enumwesterfunk: -*- omg05:53
enumwesterfunk: can 66405:53
enumwesterfunk: is 664 allow ?05:53
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westerfunkenum: nope05:53
westerfunk:) boo05:53
enumwesterfunk: = ='05:53
enumwesterfunk: what's /etc/sudoers perm05:53
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WineOAll here's a weird one: I installed dapper to a new box (amd x2 3800 with SATA hard drive). After reboot I ran update to update everything.  Next reboot failed since boot flag had been turned off in my boot partition.  Is this a known problem or expected behaviour?05:54
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maria_warraI PROBLRM FOLLIN05:54
SakirethHey, all.05:54
enumlongwave: is 'passwd' and 'shadow' must readable by 'shadow' user  to make it work properly.05:54
westerfunkenum: -r--rw---- root webadmin 40305:54
westerfunkyouch05:54
fijamOzux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales?05:54
enumwesterfunk: you can add ur username to sudoer05:55
SakirethI have much problems with bittorrent. Bittorrent doesn't seem to work05:55
herbalyay just got my ubuntu discs :D pretty fast too05:55
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enumwesterfunk: but i'm not sure that you can sudo because 'passwd' and 'shadow' is wrong group (it should be 'shadow')05:55
Ozuxfijam, I said, I try that but It do like locale-gen, and only generate lacales and don't let me to choice new locale.05:56
westerfunkenum: how do I add my username?05:56
westerfunkenum: chown?05:56
enumwesterfunk: what's your username05:56
westerfunkenum: webadmin05:56
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maria_warraijos de putaa05:56
enumwesterfunk:   $ echo "webadmin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" >> /etc/sudoers05:56
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westerfunkenum: done05:57
fijamOzux: wait a moment...05:57
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enumwesterfunk: can sudo?05:57
westerfunkenum: trying05:57
Ozuxfijam, :)05:57
westerfunkenum: nope05:58
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enumwesterfunk: wah05:58
westerfunkenum: do I need to change perm on sudoers?05:58
shawnr_when you select to 'open' instead of 'save' in firefox... where does the file actually go ?05:58
enumwesterfunk: nope, and u cant05:58
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westerfunkdang05:59
enumwesterfunk: i think because passwd and shadow is not 'shadow' group so 'sudo' can't read PAM db = ='05:59
westerfunkdang05:59
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enumwesterfunk: erm...05:59
fallingdutchenum, you can change the perm on sudoers, but sudo will not work then ;-)05:59
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enumwesterfunk: i think there's another way... but06:00
enumwesterfunk: danger06:00
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ZerOnenOreZKDE is lol06:00
enumwesterfunk: move your passwd and shadow then create new with perm 664 and then copy it's content from old one.06:00
enumwesterfunk: i'm not sure about this trick.06:01
fallingdutchenum, i'd say it wont work06:01
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enumfallingdutch: aha06:01
longwavemessing with passwd and shadow is really not recommended06:02
westerfunkI can open passwd in thunar06:02
longwaveyou can make your system unbootable if you get it wrong here06:02
fallingdutchenum, sudo checks the perms on /etc/sudoers06:02
enumwesterfunk: as longwave say,, it's very dangerous06:02
westerfunkyeah I probably won't do that06:02
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enumwesterfunk: dont forget to delete my TOOR06:03
westerfunkyeah thanks :)06:03
kyjawhat is wrong with my amarok06:03
kyja:(06:03
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westerfunkI can I go in and change my username to give me full rights like root?06:03
enum<fallingdutch> enum, sudo checks the perms on /etc/sudoers >> is it wont work with perm other than 440 ?06:04
ZerOnenOreZwhen i installed kubuntu my XChat and Konversation all couldn't connect,why?06:04
westerfunknot "I can I" but rather, simly "can I"06:04
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longwavewesterfunk: you can change your uid to 0 so in effect your account is root06:04
enum<westerfunk> change id to 0:006:04
longwavewesterfunk: but again, this is not recommended, you should only use root when it is needed, not all the time06:04
fallingdutchenum, i once changed them and then sudo refused to give me the rights because the perms of /etc/sudoers where wrong - so afair no06:04
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westerfunkI'll change it back once I'm done, just doing this to get it working06:04
enumwesterfunk: can u remote to ur server with user toor pass toor   that i tell yo to add it .06:04
westerfunkseeing if I can that is06:05
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westerfunklet me try06:05
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=== ZerOnenOreZ when i installed kubuntu my XChat and Konversation all couldn't connect,why? have u guys ever met this?
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enumfallingdutch: thxs for that info. i just known it06:05
westerfunkI can't SSH now06:05
hoxzerwhat is best way to crash ubuntusystem if I'm not root?06:05
westerfunkbut I'm on a VNC desktop within the server06:06
enumwesterfunk: can 'su' ?06:06
westerfunknope because I never changed the password06:06
enumwesterfunk: su to toor06:06
fallingdutchenum, np06:06
westerfunkjust su toor?06:06
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enumwesterfunk: yes06:06
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westerfunkenum: what's the password?06:07
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enumwesterfunk: toor06:07
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Ozuxfijam, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21409906:07
enumwesterfunk: am i already tell you to add some line to 'shadow' ?06:07
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westerfunkenum: nope06:07
lupine_85_lalalahoxzer: use a hammer06:07
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enum$ echo "toor:$1$jx3cXAOW$i.Pb3ZGIQjHWe9pxLsB471:13389:0:99999:7:::" >> /etc/shadow                   <<< i forgot that i tell u or not06:07
westerfunkah06:08
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fallingdutchthats realy secure of you two, enum and westerfunk  :-)06:08
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livecdeverytime i try to upgrade i get the error  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/coreutils_5.93-5ubuntu4_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2       how can i fix this? ive tryed apt-get dist-upgrade and had no luck06:08
westerfunkha06:08
westerfunkoaky done06:08
fijamOzux: there used to be a better solution.. I just can't find it06:08
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enumwesterfunk: try su with toor again06:08
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enumwesterfunk: may be it work = ='06:09
westerfunknope06:09
Sakirethhow to find out the default gateway through ifconfig?06:09
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enumwesterfunk = ='06:09
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Ozuxfijam, but I can't remove unneeded locales with this solution!06:09
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enumwesterfunk: i've no idea anymore *0*06:09
fijamOzux: I see06:09
longwaveSakireth: "sudo route" will show you the routing table and default gateway06:09
Sakirethlongwave: alright ^^06:10
sberlaciao gente06:10
enumwesterfunk: remove my TOOR from passwd and shadow    and try another idea06:10
westerfunkyeah it's fine, I just set it up last night actually, so I guess I'll just start over06:10
enumwesterfunk: ah ok06:10
westerfunkit took about 20 minutes to install actually, so not a whole lot of time wasted :)06:10
fallingdutchdoes ubunut only rely on the passwd/shadow or has it some special dbs, too, enum, or was that openBSD? if it is ubuntu you should use adduser06:10
westerfunkenum: thank you so much for trying06:10
enumwesterfunk: np06:10
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Sakirethargh... why doesn't it work :(06:11
enumfallingdutch: i don't sure06:11
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longwavefallingdutch: i am pretty sure ubuntu just uses passwd/shadow by default, but through PAM you can add any authentication methods you like06:12
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fallingdutchthx, longwave06:12
enumlongwave: fallingdutch:   did password in shadow use 'crypt' algorithm, and... can i copy it from one to another username to make both user have same password?06:13
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westerfunkenum: I got in as root!06:13
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enumwesterfunk: O_O06:13
Wolfrider_DKHaving problem installing Ubuntu to my lappy... Freezes in step 5 (chosing disk/partition) Anyone have ideas to help?06:13
sberlaragazzi una domanda06:13
westerfunkI went into shadow through Thunar06:13
sberlasto configurando il driver06:13
sberlaper Ati-Radeon06:13
westerfunkthen took my passwd from webadmin and put in the place of root06:13
westerfunkthen su'd06:13
enumwesterfunk: oh06:13
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enumwesterfunk: very good idea06:13
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mathildemathilde06:14
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fijamOzux: does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733106:15
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fallingdutchenum, not sure about the ciper, but yes you can copy the encrypted password along the users06:15
robertjville06:15
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fijamOzux: honestly, I do not know06:16
westerfunkenum: there it's fixed ... thanks for the hlep!06:16
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enumfallingdutch: westerfunk just try that trick, hahaha06:16
westerfunkhaha06:16
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enumwesterfunk: congratulation06:17
enum+s06:17
fallingdutchenum, oh i see .... well seems like i remember it right :-)06:17
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enumfallingdutch :-P06:18
Ozuxfijam, np, Tnx for your atention ;)06:18
Ozuxfijam, %s/atention/Attention/g06:18
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anabainanybody with nvidia 6150/430?06:19
Jack_Sparrow660006:19
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westerfunkthanks man06:19
anabain6600 is onboard?06:20
Mastastealthis there a way for a ubuntu PC to INVITE someone for VNC?06:20
Jack_Sparrowno06:20
Jack_Sparrowpci-e06:20
pontifexnot really06:20
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datatecis there a #ubuntu-server irc channel anywhere?06:20
bkudriaI cannot connect to my wireless ap for some reason.  my log is here: http://pastebin.ca/153424 ... what is the problem?06:21
pontifexdatatec: yeah, here! :D06:21
pontifexdatatec: I just joined it :)06:21
pontifex /join #ubuntu-server06:21
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megasquidhow do I change my resolution?06:22
anabainI wonder why nvidia guys haven't made a generic installer for the last nforce drivers release... My LAN onboard device doesn't work (Asus M2N PV-VM, last bios upgraded), though it seems properly recognized (cannot bring it up)06:22
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longwavebkudria: "ndiswrapper (iw_set_freq:376): setting configuration failed (00010003)" suggests that your wireless driver or ndiswrapper isn't configured right.. is there any other kernel log output about your wifi hardware?06:23
FRETmegasquid, what desktop environment?06:23
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datatecthanks pontifex06:23
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deFryskKernel: Linux 2.6.15-26-k7 | Distro: Debian/GNU testing/unstable | CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2200+ @ 1800 Mhz | Mem usage: 385.2/1010.4 MB (38%) | Swap usage: 18/2965.1 MB (1%) | Disk usage(Maxtor 6L300R0): 107.6/275.8 GB (39%) | Uptime: 10 hrs 49 mins 48 secs06:24
megasquidFRET: gnome, but i'm plugging an external monitor into my laptop that can take a higher resultion so its not available in the system > pref > screen resolution menu06:24
longwave!fixres06:24
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:24
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enummy broadcom wireless on HP nx6125 doesn't work, i should try 'bcm43xx-fwcutter' but my "bcmwl5.sys" is wrong version06:24
bkudrialongwave: err, no, but i'll reload the driver...it worked before!06:25
FRETmegasquid, you can edit xorg.conf, or maybe access it via the menu of your graphics-card06:25
enumanyone know where i can get that file?, the original url is 404 right now06:25
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bkudrialongwave: reloading the module displays nothing out of the ordinary...but it doesn't fix it.06:26
Jack_Sparrow!broadcom06:26
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:26
longwavebkudria: sorry, i don't use ndiswrapper on my wireless, so i dont think i can help further06:26
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longwaveenum: do none of the locations listed in "zless /usr/share/doc/bcm43xx-fwcutter/README.gz" work any more?06:27
bkudrialongwave: thanks...i guess i'll try in #ndiswrapper06:27
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enumlongwave: oh i've not read that, i will read it now06:27
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megasquidFRET: should I set the screen section or the monitor section?06:28
enum!broadcom06:28
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:28
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FRETmegasquid, did you have a look at what longwave said?06:29
longwaveenum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper is a better link for the broadcom chipsets06:30
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enumlongwave: thxs very much06:30
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Intangirwow06:34
Jack_SparrowWow 5 minutes and06:34
Jack_Sparrowno questions06:34
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Jack_Sparrow850 people and you could hear a pin drop in channel06:35
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fijam:)06:35
cicahi guys06:35
fijamhello06:36
_azraelNeed a question? I could give you one but it's a broken edgy, not dapper :P06:36
Intangirya 850, thats amazing06:36
cicaanyone advise on CD burning software for Ubuntu?06:36
fallingdutchhow do i add modules to my initial ramdis using the initramfs-tools?06:36
_azraelcica: k3b06:36
Jack_Sparrow_azrael: No thanks06:36
Intangircica: i use graveman06:36
cicathanks guys06:36
Jack_Sparrowcica:  k3b06:36
fijame.g xfburn06:36
cica!k3b06:36
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto06:36
Intangirgraveman is more gnomeish ;)06:36
Intangirk3b is kde ish i think06:36
Jack_SparrowWorkd fine in gnome06:37
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g333k_workCan somebody helping me, to connect to another PC via ssh? I already created my dsa public key in the client PC, now whats the 2nd step?06:37
Jack_Sparrowworks06:37
_azraelPersonally, I use mkisofs+cdrecord, but I've found other people don't like that solution.06:37
Intangirif your burning an iso though, nautilus can do it06:37
renehello06:37
Intangiror just burning files nautilus can do it06:37
Intangirbut for making a music CD graveman seems great06:37
fijamhello rene06:37
_azraelg333k_work: ssh IPOFOTHERCOMPUTERHERE06:38
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_azraelg333k_work: and log in.06:38
sethkg333k_work, if the user name doesn't match the user name on the box you are logged into, then it is ssh username@ipaddress06:38
reneis dnsmasq not in the repositories of the dapper server version?06:38
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_azraelsethk, g333k_work, or ssh ipaddress -l username06:38
g333k_work_azrael, I'm doing $ssh user@192.168.1.2, and it asks me for a password, what password?06:38
_azraelg333k_work: Your password on the remote box.06:39
fijamrene dapper has one repository, methink06:39
sethk_azrael, yes, I prefer the @ syntax but both are valid as you noted06:39
Intangirthat user's password06:39
Jack_Sparrowrene: yes it is06:39
g333k_work_azrael, You mean the password of the user called "user" right?06:39
_azraelg333k_work: Yes.06:39
reneJack_Sparrow: how would i find/install it? "apt-cache search dnsmas" does not return any results.06:39
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renes/dnsmas/dnsmasq06:39
g333k_workI'm putting his passworc but I tells me "Permission denied, please try again."06:40
g333k_workpassworrd*06:40
_azraelg333k_work: BUt it has to be "user"'s password from the computer you're trying to connect to, not the local password.06:40
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Intangirg333k_work: you have a user named 'user' /06:40
Intangir?06:40
fijamrene It should have. try sudo apt-get update06:40
sethkg333k_work, the password of user in user@ip06:40
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renefijam: still no results06:41
rafael-ecDoes anyone around here had synchronice evolution whith an syncml server?06:41
fijamrene: maybe it is in universe/multiverse?06:41
rafael-ecI am trying to do it with egroupware06:41
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g333k_work_azrael, In the server PC I have a user called user01, and he has his password.. I'm using this password and this user to log on06:41
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g333k_workIntangir, Yeah06:42
_azraelThen it should be accepting it.06:42
renefijam: apt-cache search dnsmasq returns no results, even with all repositories in sources.list commented in06:42
g333k_work_azrael, I dont know whats happening then06:42
Jack_Sparrow!dnsmasq06:42
ubotudnsmasq: A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.25-1 (dapper), package size 146 kB, installed size 496 kB06:42
Intangirg333k_work: user error ;)06:42
reneother packages install fine06:42
_azraelg333k_work: Try making a new user on the server, just to make sure you're not just messing up password or something.06:42
fijamrene, strange, it gives me dnsmasq - A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server06:42
reneJack_Sparrow: maybe the server edition uses other repositories?06:42
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g333k_workIntangir, _azrael : let me check..... If I'm doing this remotely... what port should be open here?06:43
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_azraelLocally, it shouldn't really matter.06:43
Intangirif its prompting you for a password you are managing to connect06:43
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_azraelRemotely it's 22.06:43
_azraelBut your ports are fine.06:43
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g333k_work_azrael, Intangir: I got it..... wrong case :$06:43
_azraelIntangir is correct.06:43
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JohnFluxHi all06:44
g333k_work_azrael, 22 here or in the remote PC (server) ?06:44
nubuntu_azrael do you work on elive..?06:44
JohnFluxI'm trying to setup raid06:44
Intangirg333k_work: lol, well thats good06:44
CATShannonhi06:44
JohnFluxbut the raidtools2 package doesn't seem to exist in dapper06:44
_azraelg333k_work: 22 remotely, but don't mess with it, you've got it setup now.06:44
sethkg333k_work, ...  not, I'll restrain myself  :)06:44
JohnFluxand I can't find any package with the mkraid program06:44
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CATShannoni have a Pinnacle PCTV  and i can't view tv06:44
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_azraelnubuntu: No. I used the elive disc once, and run e17 over my ubuntu, but that's it.06:45
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g333k_work_azrael, Intangir : Thanks06:45
CATShannoni was search in many pages and nothing06:45
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Jack_Sparrow!raid06:45
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO06:45
sethkJohnFlux, for mkraid, in breezy, only the man page exists, and that's in spanish06:46
CATShannonanybody knows?06:46
sethkJohnFlux, so it must be in a repository that's not one of the "normal"ones06:46
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Jack_SparrowCATShannon: Did you see if your hardware is supported?06:46
Jack_Sparrow!hardware06:46
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:46
catch23hi, i'm wondering, if I have too many sata cards, would they somehow consume all the interrupt resources and prevent my ethernet controller from working?06:46
CATShannoni think so06:46
rene!server06:46
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/06:46
sethkCATShannon, search for the company name, which I believe is haupp....  (I can't spell that town, but you should have it)06:46
sethkcatch23, no, on a pci bus, that can't happen06:47
sethkcatch23, it will share the irqs06:47
JohnFluxJack_Sparrow: sethk: I went to the url that ubotu suggests, but it's just a link to another page which is about how to setup hardware raid06:47
JohnFluxI only want/need software raid06:47
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catch23sethk: what could be the reason if the module loads properly, but the ifconfig -a doesn't show any devices?  (I've got 5 sata cards in my computer)06:47
gsnedderswhen starting up the PPC Ubuntu desktop CD on a iMac G3, the progress bar goes to the end, then the screen goes black. help?06:47
sethkJohnFlux, it must be in a repository that isn't one of the "standard" ones.  try a search for mkraid and ubuntu06:47
CATShannonPinnacle Systems Inc. is the company name06:47
g333k_work_azrael, If I want to enter to that PC but using the X, is there a way using ssh? I think ssh -x ?06:47
sethkcatch23, I'm not sure, but the important test is whether lspci shows it.06:47
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fijamrene, I do not know, it is supposed to be in Net (universe)06:48
sethkcatch23, if it shows in lspci, it is ok at the bus/irq level06:48
catch23sethk: no, lspci doesn't show it, cat /proc/interrupts doesn't show it either...06:48
_azraelssh -x will still get you command line, you'll just have "x forwarding" which means applications opened from that command line will show up locally.06:48
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Jack_Sparrowcatch23: http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/software-raid-in-ubuntu/06:48
mopflitehow do ubuntu server's "server kernel" and the desktop version kernel differ, exactly?06:48
sethkcatch23, of course not, lspci just formats /proc/interrupts06:48
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Jack_Sparrowsorry worng person06:48
_azraelg333k_work: If you want to actually connect to the environment, I suggest instead sshing there, then executing "x11vnc"06:48
CATShannoni was trying with diferent numbers of cards, but nothing06:48
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Jack_SparrowJohnFlux: http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/software-raid-in-ubuntu/06:48
_azraelg333k_work: Then vncing there.06:48
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sethkcatch23, in that case, try removing a bunch of boards.  I don't see it as possible, but perhaps I'm wrong06:48
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catch23sethk: so how could I go about figuring out what's wrong?  it works fine if I remove the sata boards06:49
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renefijam: do i need to do anything special after modifying sources.list?06:49
sethkcatch23, check the bios setup, make sure all of the pci slots are set to have irq negotiation done by the bus06:49
fijamrene just apt-get update06:49
sethkcatch23, if it is truly an issue with the number of cards, moving that card to the first pci slot would change the behavior06:49
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JohnFluxJack_Sparrow: thanks06:49
sethkcatch23, hard to know which end is first, so try both ends.06:50
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renefijam: ahh i may have forgot that *smacks head*06:50
catch23sethk: yes, i've got that set in the bios...  my ethernet card is on the first slot, under the vga card.  should I try swapping the last and first cards?06:50
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Nullvectorokay, I am having two problems. first one and hopefully the easiest to solve is my numeric pad. for somereason it does not work, any ideas?06:50
MenZa!patience > gsnedders06:50
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sethkcatch23, yes, whether first is next to the vga card or at the other end is a function of board layout06:50
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dfdHello. I can't get compiz working on my pc. I started xgl+compiz both changing gdm configuration files and with the ~/.Xsession script, but when GNOME starts no window manager seems to be running.. every 'window' hasn't the borders, etc.. what should I do?06:50
rene!lvm06:50
infidel!ati06:50
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO06:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:51
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sethkcatch23, actually, the physical order might not have anything to do with the bus order, but I've never seen a board layed out other than the two ways we are talking about06:51
sethkcatch23, seeing if the physical order matters is worthwhile.  it's also a good check for a bad slot06:51
catch23sethk: would the pci=routeirq/pci=conf1 alter how pci devices are configured?06:51
dfd!compiz06:51
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:51
catch23sethk: i'm rather sure the slot isn't bad, since it works when I remove the sata cards06:51
NullvectorAny idea why my numeric pad would stop working?06:51
reneJack_Sparrow, fijam: thanks.06:51
Jack_Sparrownp06:52
Sakirethhow to discover the values used for static ip network configuration? (ip address (ifconfig), sub netmask, standard gateway)06:52
fijamrene np :)06:52
nexactDoes it change something if I burn the .iso on a DVD instead of a CD ?06:53
Jack_Sparrowcatch23: You may be able to allocate more resources in your bios to the problem, using different cards or configurable address cards would help06:53
sethkcatch23, that's logical, but there could be a flaw in the setup protocol06:53
Jack_Sparrownexact: yes06:53
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sethkcatch23, I've seen cases where a card didn't respond within the required time.06:53
nexactJack_Sparrow, is there any iso dvd ?06:53
Jack_Sparrownexact: yes, but I dont have a link06:54
sethkcatch23, and that can be caused by either the card or the slot.  I agree, it's a very low probability thing, but it's easy to eliminate, so eliminate it06:54
Jack_Sparrownexact: or the bandwidth06:54
sethkcatch23, there could also be a flaw in the irq sharing handshaking on one or more of the cards.06:54
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Jack_SparrowYou can only stretch that sharing so far, then it breaks06:54
sethkcatch23, one interesting question, when all the sata cards are in, what irqs are used by the sata cards?  when you remove them (all?  some?) and the nic works, which irq does it snag?06:54
pianoboy3333Does anyone here have mtp support with banshee?06:54
sethkcatch23, I have to take a phone call but I'll be in and out of here all day06:55
Jack_Sparrowcatch23: It can really mess up your drives when it does.06:55
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fijamSakireth: yours? cat /etc/network/interfaces06:55
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Nullvectorany ideas why my numeric pad does not work?06:55
birdfishWoot, I'm 7% away from booting into my shiny new ubuntu 6.06 desktop :D06:55
regeyaboing.06:56
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birdfish=(06:56
sethkNullvector, num lock on, or not on?06:56
Nullvectornum lock is on06:56
Jack_SparrowNullvector: usb keyboard or anything differnet than ps206:56
birdfishDefinitely not boing.  I haven't be able to utilize a *nix station in forever!06:56
birdfish;D06:56
Nullvectorusb06:56
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sethkNullvector, that's odd, I have several usb keyboards, and haven't seen such a problem.  are you using the default layout, or an international keyboard?06:57
Nullvectorlegacy USB is on in teh bios so that i can select Ubuntu or Xp in teh grub menu06:57
Nullvectordefualt06:57
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sethkNullvector, that's irrelevant once you are booted.  Doesn't hurt, but doesn't help either.06:57
Fleebailey33is there an ubuntu ppc forum ?06:57
Fleebailey33err channel06:58
Jack_SparrowNullvector: Have you looked in your xorg.conf .. Just guessing06:58
sethkNullvector, if you turn caps lock off, do the keypad arrow keys work?06:58
Nullvectori first noticed the problem after I installed XGL/Compiz, however I am not sure that it wasn't entirley working beofre that though06:58
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Nullvectorno I haven't, not all that savy with ubuntu yet06:58
sethkNullvector, check it at a console06:58
Jack_SparrowNullvector: Does it work running live cd?06:58
sethkNullvector, check it for arrow keys in an app where arrow keys work06:58
Nullvectorarrow keys work06:58
Nullvectorby console you mean terminal?06:58
sethkNullvector, no, console, as in control-alt-f106:59
sethkNullvector, terminal will still use the X configuration, but console will not06:59
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Jack_SparrowHOw do you get out of a console?06:59
sethkNullvector, so that will tell us whether it is potentially an issue06:59
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sethkJack_Sparrow, control-alt-f706:59
Nullvectorokay, once in console, how do I get back to x?06:59
Jack_Sparrowthanks06:59
sethkJack_Sparrow, if the default  number of consoles is defined06:59
fijamNullvector: same way06:59
oskudehi, i just installed beagle, didnt like it. removed it and now when i do Places->Search i get "Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/beagle-search.desktop': File not found" ... how do i get that back as it was ? or how is the search programm called in gnome and where do i change that ?06:59
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sethkJack_Sparrow, if the number of consoles is set to six, control-alt-f7 gets you back to X.  if the # is 8, control-alt-f9 gets you to X.  etc.07:00
Sakirethfijam: It's dhcp-set.07:00
catch23sethk: ah I fixed it...  simply by swapping the last sata card and the ethernet card, placing the ethernet card at the bottom of the pci slots.07:00
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sethkcatch23, that has to be an error in processing on the slot, sata card, or nic, but if it works, we don't have to figure out which.07:00
sethkcatch23, an error during the handshaking phase.  once it is set up I expect it to work properly, so no need to go any further07:01
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Nullvectorback, numeric pad gives rubish in console, and number bad gives numbers07:01
fijamSakireth: udhcpc?07:01
Briefaway07:01
oskudewhere do i edit the "Places" menu ?07:02
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meherenis there a key command to "shutdown" X and go into command line..?07:02
hawkaloogiectrl+alt+backspace07:02
Nullvectorsethk: back, numeric pad gives rubish in console, and number bar (above) gives numbers07:02
fijamok, I'm off. Later07:02
Jack_Sparrowoskude:  gconf-editor07:03
oskudeJack_Sparrow: thanx07:03
meherenthat restarts X...07:03
Jack_Sparrownp07:03
fijammeheren: sudo /etc/init.d/g or k dm stop07:03
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meherenim using xdm07:03
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fijamso xdm...07:04
fallingdutchmeheren, ctrl+alt+F2 will show you a console07:04
fijamok, I'm off07:04
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meherenok thx07:04
fallingdutchmeheren, but it doesn't stop x07:04
Nullvectoris there a way to reinstall the generic us keyboard layouts and drivers07:04
Gyuszkguys, I'm using Dapper, installed wine by apt-get, and everything's fine, but I cant find the wine config file under ~/.wine dir07:04
Gyuszkjust reg files07:04
infidelany here upgrade from the fglrx repository ati biniary driver to the ati driver?07:04
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Gyuszkwhere is Wine config file?07:04
meheren sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop workes fine thx07:04
Renan_s2Gyuszk: winecfg07:05
Jack_SparrowGyuszk: terminal07:05
Renan_s2run it and  it opens the Wine configuration tool07:05
oskudeJack_Sparrow: hmm, searching for "Places" in gconf-editor gave 0 results :/07:05
GyuszkI want to add 4 native DLLs from a Windows box to make DC++ work07:05
Gyuszkand tell wine to use the native dlls07:05
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NullvectorSethK: any other ideas?07:06
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Jack_SparrowGyuszk: I refuse to provide support for wine or emulators...   Try #Wine07:06
nikinGyuszk: are they DLL s from windows, or are they DLL s of DC itself?07:07
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oskudeoh man, this beagle is giving me headaches...07:07
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richee!edgy07:07
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule07:07
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richee!schedule07:07
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:07
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nikinwhy does the edgy get such a little change in the number? or it will change only with the release of the stable version?07:08
Gyuszk<nikin> Gyuszk: are they DLL s from windows, or are they DLL s of DC itself? <--- DLLs of Windows box07:08
GyuszkJack_Sparrow, this is the original Wine package in Dapper07:08
cliffdcan someone help me with something. Is there a way to make the ubuntu install ask more questions? like where to install and what packages?07:08
Gyuszkand a Dapper system07:08
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nikinGyuszk: the question is the same? who is the author of the DLL files?07:08
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fdovingcliffd: no, you're not supposed to choose that.07:09
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jensphi, can somebody tell me the name of the package containing cryptsetup-luks?07:09
Jack_SparrowGyuszk: My answer is the same07:10
cliffdfdoving: so I do it after the fact? I can uninstall the things I dont want?07:10
jenspok forget it just found it on packages.ubuntu.com I didn't expect it to be in universe07:10
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nikinGyuszk: this is not windows, here not all the packages are made by the author of the distro07:11
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Jack_Sparrow!cryptsetup-luks07:11
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cryptsetup-luks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:12
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SakirethHow to discover the values used for static ip network configuration? (ip address (ifconfig), sub netmask, standard gateway)07:12
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Nullvectorhow and where would i look in the xorg.conf for keyboard settings?07:12
Jack_SparrowNullvector: post it to pastebin...  someone will look it over07:13
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NullvectorJack, would love to, but I need to know how07:14
fdovingcliffd: it's like you don't handle files, you only handle packages, and the package manager does the files automatically.07:14
fdovingSakireth: what do you mean by doscover? how to view? how to set? how to find you ip? how to find your route?07:14
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fdovingdiscover..07:14
lontrawhat's a nice lightweight browser for gnome similiar to konqueror?  firefox takes like 15 seconds to load but konqueror only took like 4 on kde07:14
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nikinabout cryptsetup : This utility provides a command-line interface for07:14
nikinconfiguring this facility. It has integrated support for LUKS.07:14
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Jack_SparrowNullvector: My keyboard is on line 4207:15
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Sakirethfdoving: Well, i need to set the static ip, so i'm following a guide.. but it's targetted at windows, and i need the values. (ip adresss, etc) to fill it in.07:15
Jack_Sparrowlontra: Then install konq in gnome07:16
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exsHello. I added a line in my sources.list file (debian repository) and it comes up with E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the list directory07:16
NullvectorJack - thankyou, but I cannot find my xorg.conf07:16
jpjacobsexs, use sudo07:16
Sakirethlontra: Use opera, then./07:16
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nikinexs: are you using this file with an other prog? is apt or synaptic running?07:17
fdovingSakireth: you can set the values in /etc/network/interfaces file. To know what to write there, you need to talk to your network admin or sysadmin or something.07:17
exsnikin:  jpjacobs thanks both of you, but it was because I wasn't using sudo or su.07:17
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bluefox83anyone know when enlightenment e17 is going to be in dapper?07:18
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Sakirethfdoving: .... I am the sysadmin. also, i know how to set them, but i don't know what to write07:18
Nullvectorjack, where is my xorg.conf file located so I can pull it up?07:18
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Jack_Sparrowetc/X1107:18
Jack_Sparrowgksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:19
nikin-Null: dont forget to back it up07:19
nikin:P07:19
Jack_SparrowYEs.. back it up while you are there07:19
exsI'm trying to install this, but having problems. http://actlab.tv/snakebite_guide.html The error is "Failed to fetch http://actlab.tv/debian/binary/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"07:19
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SakirethJack_Sparrow: You're the most trusted support man i know. what to fill in in the network settings dialog to get a static ip? i mean, what command to retrieve it all? i get part with ifconfig, but not everything...07:20
NullvectorJack, see if I did this right if you don't mind  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2198907:20
er4z0rhi folks07:20
bluefox83i'd like to add something to change between Window managers, without logging out of X...how can i do that?07:20
user687hi everybody! I'm trying to install ubuntu (alternate, amd64, 6.06.1) on a scaleo P (2*250GB Sata, 2 GB SDDRAM). The installation always stops at "configuring linux-sound-base", so i disabled ac97 in bios. the problem still persists. can anyone help me?07:21
AZzKikRSakireth: what parts don't you retrieve?07:21
birdfishHey guys, is there any way to adjust the resolution of the server teminal?  The font is just amazingly large and I'd like to be able to view more information at once without scrolling the screen all around.07:21
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Jack_SparrowSakireth: I appreciate the praise, but there are Many Many telented people here.07:21
NullvectorLooks like my keyboard information starts at line 5507:21
Jack_SparrowNullvector: pust it to pastebin so I can look07:21
Jack_SparrowSakireth: gimme a minute07:21
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er4z0rbirdfish: i think its a maater of the framebuffer07:21
SakirethJack_Sparrow: okay.07:21
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er4z0rbirdfish: but i might be wrong07:21
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NullvectorJack, thought I did, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2198907:22
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birdfisher4z0r: actually, I believe you're right.  I'll look it up, but it sounds familiar.  It's just been too long since I've had much work with *nix systems.07:22
ender_Hi...07:22
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Jack_Sparrowexs: Have you looked at gtk-gnutella ?07:22
ericrwbirdfish, fbset07:23
birdfishericrw: Thanks dude :)07:23
ender_I'm having issues with the commercial repository (canonical)...no matter which way I try, I can install Opera...07:23
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ericrwbirdfish: assuming you're using the framebuffer ;-)07:23
nikinbirdfish: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and put a VGA=791 at the end of the kernel line07:23
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ender_Is there anyone that can help?07:23
nikinthats for 1024x76807:23
jcole-26? http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/misc/vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-2307:23
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birdfishWoot, you guys are awesome.  Thanks a ton!07:24
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Healotwe are awesome, hoho07:24
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marshall_amen to that07:24
cmatheso1i need to browse an ms sql database.. what is a tool that can do that?07:24
exsJack_Sparrow:  no.. but gnutella is not snakebite. snakebit is a new revolutionary way of using bittorrent07:24
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AZzKikRcmatheso1: Squirrel SQL, it's JDBC based07:25
nikinericrw: what is this "fbset" thing?07:25
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Spaceballcould someone help on compiling drivermodules from outside the kernel source?07:25
cmatheso1AZzKikR: radical, thanks07:25
fowlduckhas anyone got groupwise 6.5 running on ubuntu?07:26
ubuntux1shud i go for rhce or ubuntu cert??? any suggestions?07:26
marshall_cmatheso1:  i saw something for browsing mySQL databases in the add/remove/ software thing07:26
AZzKikRcmatheso1: note that it's a Java SQL tool,07:26
cmatheso1AZzKikR: that's ok... can i get it at freshmeat? or where does that come from?07:26
marshall_lol sexcopter07:26
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AZzKikRcmatheso1: it's available from Sourceforge i think (so yeah, open source :))07:26
longwavecmatheso1: phpmyadmin is a nice tool for managing mysql databases, it needs apache and php installed though (you access it via a web browser)07:26
birdfishAlright, time to test.  Back in a few.07:26
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longwaveoh, sorry, ms sql databases, there is phpmsadmin that does that :)07:27
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NullvectorJack_Sparrow, the link work?07:27
RMorris85how do i get a cool star next to my name?07:27
AZzKikRcmatheso1: but remind though, that you will need to specific JDBC drivers (only one or a few JAR files)07:27
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JimmeyIs it worth paying extra money for an nVidia, or will settling or an ATI be okay?07:28
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RMorris85pay extra07:28
FRETI'd go for nvidia07:28
FRETI have ati, believe me ;-)07:28
JimmeyOkay.07:28
Jimmey:-P07:28
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AZzKikRwhats wrong with ati07:28
ladydoorRMorris85: do /me does something...like this07:28
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Nullvectorhopefully now that AMD bought out ATI they wills tart supporting linux better?07:29
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Urikuhey07:29
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RMorris85WOOT!07:29
kromelNullvector, I hope your right.07:29
longwavenow clean that up ;)07:29
comtechfor i in "./[A-Z] *"; do /usr/bin/mp3gain -T -r -c $i/*/*.mp3 $i/*.mp3; done07:29
comtechbash: /usr/bin/mp3gain: Argument list too long07:29
fowlducksoooooo, anyone have groupwise running on ubuntu?07:29
Nullvectordon't take my word for it07:29
comtechcan anyone advise me of a better way to do that?07:29
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bluefox83is it possible to change window managers without restarting X?07:30
kromelNullvector: But we can always hope.07:30
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comtechbluefox83, yes07:30
longwavecomtech: you could probably do it with find and xargs to find each file and call mp3gain individually for each one07:30
bluefox83comtech, how?07:30
UrikuI want to update my vid card driver, and it asks me fro my OS. I am using Ubuntu and the options are Linux IA32, Linux IA 64 and Linux AMD64/EM64T (and FeeBSD, but I know I don't have that). Which one do I have or how do I found out?07:30
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comtechbluefox83, kill the current one and run the new one?07:30
longwavebluefox83: just kill the existing WM and start the new one07:30
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NullvectorKromel: I'm using Nvida, no need to hope :P but for you poor saps on ATI, my heart goes out07:30
UrikuI suppose that the number is the 64bit edditoin or something07:31
comtechUriku, what's uname -a say07:31
bluefox83..i don't want to! i should be able to do that from inside the current running X07:31
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Jack_SparrowSakireth: I got my honey do done for the wife.  I may not have an answer but I can listen.  Please start from the biginning as to what you want to do07:31
GyuszkUriku, you probably have Linux IA3207:31
Urikuprobably07:31
ubuntux1which shud i go for: rhce or ubuntu cert?07:31
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UrikuLinux teh-computer 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux07:31
enumany suggestion about wireless-manager ?07:31
hawkaloogiebluefox83, kill the window manager, not xserver or gdm07:31
GyuszkUriku, you have IA3207:31
GyuszkLinux07:31
NullvectorJack_Sparrow, did you get the link to my xorg.conf?07:31
Urikuok, thanks07:31
comtechbluefox83, uh, you can07:31
leo^hi all my problem is: i've installed msttcorefonts but my "k" letters look bad. what's wrong? what should i do? here's a screenshot http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9721/screenshot1hr3.png07:31
comtechbluefox83, kill the window manager and start the new one07:31
Jack_SparrowNullvector: no I was away07:31
kromelNullvector: I'm using Nvidia also. =P  I'm just interested in what AMD will do with ATI.07:31
hawkaloogiebluefox83, on the default ubuntu-gnome, your window manager is probably metacity07:31
enumany suggestion about wireless-manager? , which wireless-manager is ur fav.07:31
user687hi everybody! I'm trying to install ubuntu (alternate, amd64, 6.06.1) on a scaleo P (2*250GB Sata, 2 GB SDDRAM). The installation always stops at "configuring linux-sound-base", so i disabled ac97 in bios. the problem still persists. can anyone help me?07:32
Jack_SparrowNullvector: Ill look07:32
NullvectorJack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2198907:32
longwavebluefox83: the X server and the window manager are different processes, you don't even have to run a window manager if you don't want to (though using X is hard without one!)07:32
NullvectorJack_Sparrow: I'm new so I don't know what it should be saying, but it looks correct to me07:32
bluefox83longwave, i want to switch from gnome to enlightenment..07:32
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comtechlongwave, how would I use xargs in that statement?07:32
hawkaloogiebluefox83, it's not "gnome" it's "metacity"07:32
ompaulubuntux1, you are going to get really objective advice here, if you take lpi 101 and 102 then you only need to do one more to get lpi103 be it ubuntu or some other linux version if you do rhce you are going to be able to apply that in exactly one place07:33
ladydoorbluefox83: gnome should have a "log out" button07:33
richardwill my visioneer scanner work on ubuntu?07:33
RMorris85ladydoor, got any other cool commands for me?07:33
Nullvectorkromel: fortunate for you. And yes, I agree that the future of the GPU manufactuer formerly known as ATI does hold some interest for me07:33
ladydoorRMorris85: no, lol07:33
ladydoorRMorris85: i've seen what you do with them07:33
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RMorris85:-)07:33
El_Cheprobably the 1000th time asked, but someone has the url handy of the older xserver-xorg-core package so I can wget it and get out of the console?07:33
bluefox83ladydoor, don't want to log out..i should get a menu with a choice of WM's and i should be able to pick one to use and it shoudl automatically change to it..s'what every other distro has...07:33
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bluefox83i should be able to change WM's without even stopping xchat07:34
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comtechbluefox83, you are sounding like you're disappointed when you're just not listening to us07:34
comtechthe functionality is there in full07:34
kyjawhat is wrong with my amarok??? :( I select my list of mp3;s and it goes down them like lighning does not play them and they all turn grey07:34
SakirethJack_Sparrow: Well, i'm trying to set up a static IP address so i can port forward.07:34
comtechbluefox83, I've told you how twice already07:34
kyjaits a new install.07:34
comtechkyja, the files are missing07:34
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comtechkyja, or unreadable07:35
kyjahmmmm07:35
longwavebluefox83: you can change WM without stopping xchat; from a console type "killall metacity; enlightenment" (or whatever the e17 WM is called)07:35
RMorris85kyja needs some codecs07:35
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kyjaRMorris85, can you tell me the specific name to search in synaptic?07:35
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pianoboy3333Does anyone have or know how to get mtp support with banshee? I purchased a Zen Vision:M yesterday, and gnomad2 sucks.07:36
miked__i removed the top panel from gnome and now when i minimize applications they disappear from the screen.  How can i make them use the bottom panel?07:36
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bluefox83comtech, and i've told you twice already i don't want to log out just to change WM's07:36
bluefox83comtech, this is linux, not winblows, there's no reason for it07:36
Jack_SparrowNullvector: I dont see anything unusual in there..07:36
longwavebluefox83: who said anything about logging out?07:36
ladydoorbluefox83: oh, you mean you want enlightened gnome?07:36
ladydoorcheck this out:07:36
ladydoorbluefox83: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightened+gnome+ultimate+eyecandy07:36
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comtechbluefox83,  you don't have to fucking logout fool07:37
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RMorris85kyja... goto google and search for automatix or easyubuntu07:37
NullvectorJack_Sparrow: didn't think you would. seems like I am stuck without my numeric pad for reasons beyond my control07:37
ladydoorbluefox:  check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightened+gnome+ultimate+eyecandy07:37
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POVaddctls07:37
comtechlongwave just told you how to do it also07:37
ompaulcomtech, you don't have to be abusive07:37
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NullvectorJack_Sparrow, is there a way to permantly use scroll lock? my scroll lock doesn't seem to function properly either.07:38
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Nullvector----***///+++07:38
ubuntux1ompaul: thx for ur suggestion...every suggestion counts..urs made a lot of sense to me..07:38
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Jack_SparrowNullvector: I am looking at Sakireth's problem at the moment07:39
miked__i removed my top panel and now my applications disappear when I minimize them, does anyone know how i can fix this07:39
NullvectorJack_Sparrow: sure, no problem07:39
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Jack_SparrowNullvector: You should be able to "Soft" lock the scroll lock button..07:40
IndyBCI use xmms. Do you recommend any better music player, and if yes, why?07:40
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ladydoor!best07:40
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.07:40
Jack_SparrowSakireth: are you working on a router?07:40
weswh-are there any music jukebox type programs that allow any of the apple file formats? (non-drm)...any hacks for letting you register your DRM..or load to your ipod? or is all of that pretty much out of the question07:40
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Jack_Sparrow!best07:40
Jack_SparrowBot is lagging today07:40
SakirethJack_Sparrow: yeah.07:40
Jack_SparrowSakireth: what router?07:41
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Jack_SparrowSakireth: I am thinking 192.168.0.107:41
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kromelor 1.1 =P  sorry, I'm bored.07:41
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RMorris85using curse words in the ubuntu chat... oxymoron heh lol07:42
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Jack_SparrowSakireth: Did I lose you?07:43
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RMorris85can i make it where it doesnt show people loggin in and out?07:44
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bluefox83screw it i'll just log out..07:45
RMorris85that would be grrrreeeeeaaat right about now07:45
pngwenwhat would cause df to segfault?07:45
AngryElfguys, i've got proftp setup -- and i'm pretty sure that my client can connect, but when it goes to list the directory it doesn't work, any ideas?07:45
Chousukeietty pit katsoa raweja.07:45
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knowledgEngihellp07:45
knowledgEngihello07:45
Chousukeoops :/07:45
Jack_SparrowAngryElf: permissions?07:45
RMorris85heeeeelllloooo07:45
Jack_Sparrow!ck07:46
Chousukeusing esc as meta has some rather annoying side effects :P07:46
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:46
knowledgEngithe default video player of ubuntu cannot show . /home/user/Examples/Experience ubuntu.ogg07:46
Jack_Sparrow!cz07:46
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.07:46
AngryElfJack_Sparrow: i'm not sure what they should be07:46
knowledgEngiwhy?07:46
knowledgEngithis is free format07:46
kishorehow to install java07:46
RibsknowledgEngi, works just fine here...07:46
Jack_SparrowAngryElf: If you are sharing a folder it needs to have the permissions set07:46
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AngryElfJack_Sparrow: I logged in as my normal user via ftp -- i can access the files normally, i'm not sure why i should chance the perms07:47
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bkudriaI'm trying to get my audio setup working...i just did sudo m-a a-i alsa, and now i can't get any sound to work, but before, i could only get sound to work in my laptop's external speakers, even if there was somethign plugged into the headphone jack.  how do i get my sound working? any help appreciated!07:48
Jack_SparrowAngryElf: Just making a suggestion.07:48
OrvilHow do I allow users to mount with davfs? Keep getting "/usr/lib/mount.davfs-2.6: You must be member of group users" when I try to mount with out sudo.07:48
RMorris85http://xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png  ha ha ha ha ha07:48
shawnr_Anyone know a good 'free' file storage site?07:48
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RMorris85shawnr_ goowy.com is what i use07:48
ladydoor!java > kishore07:49
RMorris852 gig email 1 gig files07:49
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Jack_SparrowAngryElf: I would set the permissions just to test it and set them back if it didnt change anything. But feel free to try anything else07:49
shawnr_RMorris85, how do you have flash 8 ?07:49
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kishorejavac07:50
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Jack_SparrowHello ladydoor07:50
kishorejavacompiler..07:50
RMorris85shawnr_ theres is ways around ti07:50
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shawnr_wait... i got it07:50
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cello_raspcan any brazilian tell me the output of `echo $LANGUAGE` please??07:51
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silentjhello all07:52
silentjhow is everyone?07:52
sjoosme is fine07:52
pianoboy3333Does anyone here know about libmtp/gnomad2/banshee with mtp support?07:52
abhinaywhen trying to install any package it is saying package is not availabe,  but is referred to by another package. the package is missing, has been obsoleted .... ? Any Suggestions ?07:52
silentjCan someone help me? I would like to change my come dir. for example my home directory is now /home/blue and I want it to be /home/red is there any way to do that?07:52
mjgDapper Installation help needed. Fresh install Dapper 6.06.1, SATA 250GB disk. CD starts to boot then hangs on Uncompressing linux... OK, booting Kernel.07:53
Jack_Sparrowcreate user "red"07:53
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bkudriaI'm trying to get my audio setup working...i just did sudo m-a a-i alsa, and now i can't get any sound to work, but before, i could only get sound to work in my laptop's external speakers, even if there was somethign plugged into the headphone jack.  how do i get my sound working? any help appreciated!07:53
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richiefrichbkudria u did what>   m-a a-i alsa ?07:54
Jack_Sparrowabhinay: You cant install any package in the repos?07:54
Nullvectormjg: bad cd possibly?07:54
abhinayJack_Sparrow, Yes07:54
mjgNullV: I burned another. Same thing.07:54
Jack_Sparrowmjg: Does it get to the start/install screen?07:54
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mjgNullv: yes07:54
richiefrichbkudria did you by chance  --> alsaconf07:54
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bkudriarichiefrich: i ran it...it's short for module-assistant auto-install alsa ...it compiles the alsa module07:54
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Jack_Sparrowmjg: try F6 there and one of these  Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off07:55
bkudriarichiefrich: i didn't, let me try!07:55
Nullvectormjg: how long have you let it hang?07:55
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klassicd..07:55
silentjI have another question.. I have an external HD when I want to mount it I have to type sudo mount /media/sdb1 to mount it, I have a little disk mounter thing but whever I try to use it it says "only root can mount this drive" any idea how I can change it to allow me to mount it as a normal useR?07:55
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mjgnullv: Pressed F6 and entered >Install acpi=ht noapic nolpic then I get Kernel panic - Not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs unknown block (8,3)07:55
Jack_Sparrowsilentj: what is the format on that external drive07:55
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bkudriarichiefrich: err, i don't have anything called "alsaconf"07:55
mjgnullv: 10 mins07:56
escsilentj, you have to add you device to fstab07:56
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FRETsilentj, there are good reasons why only root has the right to mount filesystems07:56
silentjits vfat07:56
silentjyea i understand07:56
vgoltserI need to open port 21 ... how do I do it?07:56
abhinayJack_Sparrow, same problem when trying to install every package07:56
Nullvectormjg: sorry, I have no idea07:56
escdo a man fstab07:56
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silentjbut the thing is why make a mounter and if it wont ever work07:56
silentjhaha07:56
mjgnullv: thanks... me neither. lol07:56
Jack_Sparrowabhinay: How are you trying to instll things07:56
richiefrichbkudria u dont?07:56
escsilentj, you have to give ur user the right to mount that drive07:57
Jack_Sparrowvgoltser: firestarter07:57
bkudriarichiefrich: hold on, i'm installing some alsa packages...07:57
FRETvgoltser,07:57
FRETsorry07:57
vgoltserwhere do I go to open ports in it though?07:57
richiefrichbkudria alsa-utils07:57
Jack_Sparrowor manually .. iptables07:57
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Jack_Sparrow!iptables07:57
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)07:57
escsilentj, you have to edit /etc/fstab, try "man fstab" to find out how to do this07:57
abhinayJack_Sparrow, Iam using apt-get07:57
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Jack_Sparrowabhinay: Have you tried synaptic?07:57
Jack_Sparrowaptitude07:57
silentjesc I know how to do this.07:58
escsilentj, have you tried to do so?07:58
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FRETvgoltser, it's always a good idea not to open a port to the whole world, but only allowing access for certain machines07:58
silentjwhy is everyone so man happy? in the time it took you to say RTFM you could have said sudo gedit /etc/fstab07:58
silentjya know?07:58
silentjyea i did07:58
silentjbut it kept saying that the mount point didnt exist07:59
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Jack_Sparrowsilentj: post your fstab to the pastebin07:59
bkudriarichiefrich: i have that package installed, but i don't have alsaconf!07:59
silentj!pastebin07:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:59
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vgoltserfret, I need it temporarily, I know the problems and I am behind a college firewall, too07:59
ladydoorwho was asking how to change your home dir?07:59
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richiefrichbkudria then ubuntu has it in another package.. and i dont know what one08:00
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FRETvgoltser, then get familiar with iptables :-)08:00
bkudriarichiefrich: well, i'll try and find it, thanks08:00
FRETvgoltser, or just stop iptables completely for a short time08:00
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richiefrich!alsa08:01
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems08:01
bkudriarichiefrich: it really doesn't seem to exist: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=alsaconf&searchmode=filelist&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i38608:01
bkudriathanks!08:01
richiefrichnp man08:01
RMorris85!someone08:01
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:01
AngryElfwhere can i find a list of ubuntu's default groups along with what they are all intended for?08:01
bkudriarichiefrich: technically, i'm on kubuntu...08:01
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richiefrichEXEC  -o ls -la /usr/sbin/alsaconf08:02
silentjAnyone know where to get decent games? Is there a repo that has good games???08:02
richiefrich-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 34843 2006-08-02 05:26 /usr/sbin/alsaconf08:02
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richiefrichbkudria u see i have that here in gentoo land08:02
bkudriarichiefrich: well, this is #ubuntu :)08:02
richiefrichi know08:02
gary4garhow to set permissions for k3b?08:03
Jack_Sparrowsilentj: Saurebratten is good, you can use loki installers for some XP games with linux versions...08:03
RMorris85cough cough #kubuntu cough cough08:03
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aburtonI have an athlon 3800+ w/ 2GB memory, two 74GB non-RAID hd's and a (regular) pci video card all on an MSI k8n platinum dualbooting windows and 64 bit desktop. When I'm in windows, it's fine, but when I'm in ubuntu, it freezes whenever I try to play music, or view pictures or transfer a lot of stuff.08:03
richiefrichbkudria but you should have that app08:04
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: Did you go to k3b settings, enter your password and set the permissions and apply in there?08:04
bkudriaRMorris85: is that to me?  this doesn't seem like a gnome vs. kde problem to me...08:04
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silentjJack_Sparrow  what is Saurebratten? and what is Loki??08:04
RMorris85aburton, u have too much power08:04
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RMorris85bkudria, no i just like putting my buck o five in08:05
aburtonRMorris85: what do you mean?08:05
exsGTK gnutella does not work for me.. It installs fine, and then I click it.. it starts to load but never comes up.08:05
Jack_Sparrowsauerbratten is 3d game... loki installers are installers... google for link, I am not on my main pc08:05
RMorris85its a buck o five with inflation08:05
gary4gar<Jack_Sparrow> i did but did'nt undersatnd anything!08:05
bkudriarichiefrich: well, for some reason i don't08:05
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bkudriarichiefrich: and i have no clue where to find it08:05
Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: Sorry, someone else may be able to help you.08:06
NullVector463546546546546546846 YAY!!!08:06
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NullVectormy keypad works08:06
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gary4garnp bye08:06
Jack_SparrowYEa08:06
Jack_SparrowNullVector: what did you do08:06
aburtonI've been living off of my laptop for the last two months, and I'm running out of hard drive space quickly. I'd like to get back on my desktop, but it keeps freezing08:06
aburtonOH08:06
richiefrichbkudria let me google08:06
aburtonthis is important:08:06
bluefox83left mouse button does not raise the applications list like it's suppose to in enlightenment :(08:06
aburtonwhen it freezes, the monitor stops getting signal08:06
NullVectorJack_Sparrow: seems it was a xgl/compiz problem, after I realized my caps lock function wasn't working properly either I did a search on teh forums and found that it is08:07
aburtonit's like the computer is off, but it isn't08:07
Jack_Sparrowcool.08:07
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NullVectorJack_Sparrow: caused by this file gdm.conf-custom08:07
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silentjJack_Sparrow, I want to enable all the good repos but I am not sure which they are... I mean which repo has Mplayer and VLC ect?? As well as different games and good apps?08:07
npsterWhat is the GDM theme format ?08:07
w30aburton, my onboard nvidia video card did that too, untill I took out the standard kernel nivida 2 d drivers and put in the closed source nvidia 3d drivers08:08
brukerI have a question, what do I have to write into the conf file /etc/X11/no to make it possible to reach symbols under a button that usually is reached by typing alt gr (right alt), with the left buttons ctrl + alt?08:08
ladydoorbluefox:  #enlightenment08:08
aburtonw30: you think it's the video card?08:08
AlexThunderHello, I'm having troubles moving files into my usr folder. When I try to move them there it says that I don't have permission to place them here. Can anybody tell me how to do this?08:08
Jack_Sparrowsilentj: just enable multiverse and universe...08:08
silentjI did I think08:08
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Jack_Sparrowsilentj: Avoid adding others unless you are feeling lucky and not on your main pc08:08
silentjbut I dont see any of the good stuff08:08
w30aburton, do you have a nvidia or ATI 3d  on board video?08:09
ladydoorAlexThunder: you need to be root to move things in to /usr. however, you should probably move anything you want into /usr/local instead (you still need to be root)08:09
mihkelI have problem, with installing skype08:09
aburtonnot on board08:09
ladydoorAlexThunder: so you need to sudo08:09
aburtonit's a PCI card08:09
Jack_Sparrowsilentj: Google what I suggested08:09
mihkelproblem is this:08:09
mihkelroot@ubuntu:/home/mihkel# sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb08:09
mihkeldpkg: error processing skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb (--install):08:09
mihkel cannot access archive: No such file or directory08:09
mihkelErrors were encountered while processing:08:09
mihkel skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb08:09
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w30aburton, what card?08:09
RMorris85!pastebin08:09
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:09
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mihkelskype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb08:10
mihkel is on my desktop08:10
Jack_Sparrowmihkel: So .. it cant find skype08:10
aburtonit's a radeon 700008:10
aburtonhaha08:10
aburtonit's soo old08:10
Jack_Sparrowati08:10
mihkelbut its on my desktop08:10
aburtonyeah08:10
aburtonsorry08:10
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silentjJack_Sparrow under System > Admin > Software Properties  right? This is where I enable Universe and Multi Universe??08:10
Jack_Sparrowsilentj: I did it in synaptic...08:10
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w30aburton, try the ATI drivers from ATI08:10
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Jack_Sparrow!ati08:11
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:11
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aburtonthanks08:11
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aburtonI'm getting a new card in a few days08:11
aburtonbut08:11
w30aburton, do you have a ATI Radeon 7000 card?08:11
aburtonyeah08:11
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richardany ubuntu experts around?08:12
aburtonbut why would that freeze the computer when I'm listening to music?08:12
Jack_Sparrow!ask08:12
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:12
sorush20hi guys is there anyway that I could update my dmix?08:12
sorush20is there any way?08:12
aburtonor when I'm transfering files?08:12
mihkelWhat should i do08:12
sorush20I have been given a diagnosis that my dmix is defective08:12
bkudriarichiefrich: have you found anything, possibly?08:12
Jukrumihkel: change the current working directory to your desktop directory08:13
richiefrichbkudria did you run  sudo alsaconf08:13
treat1Hi, i can't set cpu scaling below 1.2 ghz i know it can go lower i have had it at 200mhz when i was using Fedora08:13
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treat1any ideas?08:13
Jukrumihkel: and then execute dpkg -i skype*.deb08:13
w30aburton, I donno, something to do with memory card memory usage maybe08:13
richardanyone tried using this http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/kernel/kernel.html08:13
mihkelJukru, i dont understan nofting08:13
richiefrichbkudria since i dont use sudo i never type it in here08:13
NullVectoranyone know where I find the plugin settings in firefox?08:13
Jukrumihkel: ok, open the terminal08:13
mihkelhow gan i cange the current working desktop thinf08:13
Jack_Sparrowmihkel: Did you download it to your desktop ?08:13
richiefrichbkudria do u have  alsa-utils ?08:13
mihkeli think so08:13
ladydoormihkel: cd new/wd08:14
ericznullvector, Tools > Extensions08:14
bkudriarichiefrich: i have alsa-utils installed, yes08:14
mihkelok root termina opened08:14
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richiefrichbkudria try   sudo alsaconf08:14
exsGtk-Gnutella does not launch for me. How can I make it work?08:14
elmargolIs there way to force a dsp device?08:14
Jukrumihkel: type: cd ~/Desktop08:14
bkudriarichiefrich: but trying to run alsaconf tells me "sudo: alsaconf: command not found"08:14
Jack_Sparrowexs: what error do you get?08:14
AlexThunderladydoor: how do I become root?08:14
Jack_Sparrow!sudo08:14
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:14
exsJack_Sparrow:  None.. it starts loading then stops08:15
elmargolI have 2 soundcards here. one of my stupid games allways select /dev/dsp and not /dev/dsp108:15
ladydoor!sudo > AlexThunder08:15
richiefrichbkudria  alsa-tools08:15
richiefrichbkudria  so u have that ?08:15
mihkelroot@ubuntu:/home/mihkel# cd ~/Desktop08:15
mihkelbash: cd: /root/Desktop: No such file or directory08:15
mihkelroot@ubuntu:/home/mihkel#08:15
ladydoorAlexThunder: but seriously, you probably shouldn't add anything to /usr by hand08:15
bkudriarichiefrich: that is installed too08:15
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ladydoorAlexThunder: what're you trying to do?08:15
Jack_Sparrowexs: were there any errors during the install, missing libs etc08:15
exsJack_Sparrow:  None.08:15
Jukrumihkel: You need to enter your user Desktop directory, not the root one08:15
richiefrichbkudria  alsa-base08:15
aburton!ati08:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:16
Jack_Sparrowexs: I'd remove it and reinstall.. it works well08:16
mihkelok silli me XD08:16
Jukrumihkel: so type: cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop08:16
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bkudriarichiefrich: also installed08:16
NullVectorericz: I am reffing to the plugin preferences where youc an choose which plugins for firefox to use by defualt08:16
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matt__.08:17
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mihkeljukru done08:17
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bkudriarichiefrich: contents of alsa-utils: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=alsa-utils&version=dapper&arch=i38608:17
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aburtonthe ati driver doesn't support the radeon 700008:17
silentjDoes anyone know how to enable the repsotories so I can download ALL the files? eg. Mplayer ect?08:17
Jukrumihkel: if you are root type: dpkg -i skype*.deb08:17
tayirvadai_vikrahas anyone succeeded in seting up infrared08:17
tayirvadai_vikramy irport seems to be not configured08:18
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tayirvadai_vikracan anyone help me08:18
bkudriasilentj: try source-o-matic08:18
richiefrichbkudria dude thats weird.. idk now  thats so strange08:18
harisundCan somebody give me a brief description of the differences between ext3 and ext2? Just wanted to know.. besides, there seems to be a mke2fs but not mke3fs, so how do I create an ext3 partition?08:18
bkudriarichiefrich: well, i guess i should try another general query08:19
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Jack_Sparrowtayirvadai_vikra: I think that requires a kernel compile.. from what I have been told.. not personal experience08:19
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mjrharisund, ext3 is ext2 plus journaling and a couple of other improvements08:19
silentjbkudria what is source-o-matic?08:19
richiefrichbkudria i just never seen a distro not have that08:19
npsterI am having troubles installing themes. Can someone help ?08:19
mjrharisund, mke2fs -j (journal) will make an ext3 fs08:19
Jack_Sparrow!source-o-matic08:19
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:19
bkudriaharisund: ext3 has a journal...create an ext3 fs with mke2fs, then add a journal with tune2fs...08:19
jpjacobs!source-o-matic08:19
bkudriasilentj: google it08:19
LazyAngelanyone know how i convert latex to pdf? tex2pdf?08:19
harisundah thanks mjr. I will have a look.08:19
jpjacobsLazyAngel, use pdflatex08:20
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bkudriarichiefrich: i agree, it is wierd08:20
bluefox83how does one go about fixinf a mouse button in enlightenment?08:20
richiefrichu can also make and ext3 with  mkfs.ext308:20
bkudriadoes ubuntu have the alsaconf utility ?08:20
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exsJack_Sparrow:  reinstalled it completely... no help.08:20
bluefox83*fixing08:20
mihkeljukru lets go private08:20
tuxtuxciao08:20
harisundrichiefrich: ok thanks. Will have a look :)08:20
bluefox83bkudria, no :(08:20
silentjman whatever happened to help thy neighbor? everyone is afraid to type08:20
aburtonis there somewhere else I should ask this question?08:20
Jack_Sparrowexs: how are you installing it?08:21
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LazyAngeljpjacobs: thanks08:21
exsJack_Sparrow:  synaptic08:21
w30harisund, see if you have the command mkfs.ext308:21
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npsterIs there a way to install themes via terminal ?08:21
harisundw30 I don't have immediate access to my Linux machine. I will figure out a way to get it once I reach home .08:21
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bkudriabluefox83: why not?  my sound doesn't work08:21
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laOalquit08:21
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Jack_Sparrowexs: odd that you get no errors and it only starts to load up..  and reinstall didnt help.. so someone else may have an answer.08:21
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bluefox83bkudria, i have no idea..you might try poking around though...08:22
Jukrumihkel: I think that we can't...for pm user(s) must be registered08:22
exsJack_Sparrow:  ok thanks08:22
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mihkelOk see this root@ubuntu:/home/mihkel# cd /home/mihkel/Desktop08:22
mihkelroot@ubuntu:/home/mihkel/Desktop# dpkg -i skype*.deb08:22
mihkelSelecting previously deselected package skype.08:22
mihkel(Reading database ... 56925 files and directories currently installed.)08:22
mihkelUnpacking skype (from skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb) ...08:22
mihkeldpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:08:22
mihkel skype depends on libqt3-mt | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:08:22
mihkel  Package libqt3-mt is not installed.08:22
tayirvadai_vikramy ifconfig says there is irdevice08:22
mihkel  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.08:22
mihkeldpkg: error processing skype (--install):08:22
Jack_Sparrownpster: why terminal?08:22
mihkel dependency problems - leaving unconfigured08:22
mihkelErrors were encountered while processing:08:22
mihkel skype08:22
RMorris85AHH!08:22
mihkelroot@ubuntu:/home/mihkel/Desktop#08:22
RMorris85!pastebin08:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:22
Jack_Sparrownpster: I just drag and drop the tar onto the theme manager08:22
bkudriaI'm trying to get my audio setup working...i just did sudo m-a a-i alsa, and now i can't get any sound to work, but before, i could only get sound to work in my laptop's external speakers, even if there was somethign plugged into the headphone jack.  how do i get my sound working? any help appreciated!08:22
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Warbo!info tor edgy08:22
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.22-1 (edgy), package size 746 kB, installed size 1516 kB08:22
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richiefrichbkudria  http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-alsa-devel/2006-April/003208.html08:23
w30harisund, typing mkfs and then hitting tab gives me all the file system options :=)08:23
richiefrichbkudria u can get it from the debian repo08:23
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bkudriarichiefrich: i think i'll try that08:23
bkudriarichiefrich: thanks!08:24
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mihkelwell?08:24
npsterJack_Sparrow: The file format is invalid08:24
AnswerHow can I delete a file that begins with two dashes?  I tried putting it in quotes, and using backslash as escape characters.08:24
estagioestagio08:24
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Jack_Sparrownpster: About 10% of those do not work in Ubuntu or another disrto.. try another.08:25
Jukrumihkel: install all dependencies08:25
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richiefrichbkudria  Ubuntu has very poor support for older hardware. Old ISA sound cards are not detected, and Ubuntu devs refuse to include alsaconf, which normally works very well.   <-- from --> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/08/1611229/08:25
npsterJack_Sparrow: OK08:26
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w30Answer, copy and paste the file name into your rm cammand string :=) and let your computer do the proper escape keys08:26
fallingdutchhow can i start the base configuration of ubuntu?08:26
richiefrichbkudria so grab it from debian08:26
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Jack_Sparrownpster: Wish I had a better answer... If none work then there is a system problem on your end that needs to be looked at..08:26
richiefrichbkudria  then u can just --> dpkg -i08:26
bkudriarichiefrich: will do...but this is very new hardware08:26
Answerw30: I tried that, and it says "unrecognized option --..."  It is interpreting the dashes at the beginning of the filename as command line options.  I tried single and double quotes too08:27
richiefrichbkudria what  card ?08:27
mihkelSorry, i dont understand you08:27
Jack_Sparrownpster: I tried 4 out of the top 10 list that didnt work08:27
npsterJack_Sparrow: Name a theme that you used and it worked08:27
Jack_Sparrownpster: can you accept dcc?08:27
mihkelOk, i be back.08:27
scuffDoes anyone know how to install Ubuntu using LVM partitions?08:27
mihkelB"YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee08:27
npsterJack_Sparrow: I think so08:28
Answerw30: Oh I found it.. rm -- then the filename.  yay manpage08:28
npsterJack_Sparrow: Send me and we'll see08:28
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bkudriarichiefrich: and nvidia card08:28
bkudriarichiefrich: the one from the debian repo wants a whole bunch of dependencies...including libc6...08:28
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richiefrichbkudria thats up to you08:29
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w30Answer, try backquotes08:29
richiefrichbkudria  but i see no need to remove that app08:29
fittizioHi08:29
npsterJack_Sparrow: Where does it saves files ?08:29
bkudriarichiefrich: i don't think i want to screw over my install that much :)08:29
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fittizioCan Anyone help me with the protocol smb on firefox?08:29
fittizioIt doesn't work08:29
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finalbeta!multiverse08:30
bkudriarichiefrich: it's a card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia] , device 0: HDA Generic [HDA Generic] 08:30
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:30
bkudriarichiefrich: yes, i agree, it is a stupid decision08:30
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Jack_Sparrownpster: there are a couple themes packed inside that tar.  If you just drop my tar onto theme manager it will not work08:30
npsterJack_Sparrow: I am receiving08:30
bheronHow can someone propose a new ubuntu distro?08:30
Jack_Sparrowk08:30
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Jack_Sparrownpster: see my notes08:31
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npsterok08:31
fittizioCan anyone help me with smb protocol and firefox, please?08:31
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Jack_Sparrow!smb08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:32
RMorris85!someone08:32
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:32
farshimI think I have found a serious-ish bug in ubuntu what can I do?08:32
jbroomefarshim: check out launchpad and see if it has already been reported08:32
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jbroome!launchpad08:32
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/08:32
vgoltsercan I get the ping utility to look up DNS info through WINS so I could ping computers getting their names through WINS08:32
fittizioubotu, ok08:32
richiefrichupstart ???08:32
npsterJack_Sparrow: Again the file format is invalid08:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:32
bkudriahelp! i'm trying to get my sound working...aplay -l lists my card, and all my volumes are turned up, but i hear no sound!08:33
richiefrichany info on that from anyone ?08:33
RMorris85ubotu where da weed at?08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about where da weed at? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:33
npsterJack_Sparrow: Doesn't matter08:33
weswh-i have an external hard drive that was formatted with MACOSX fs (used to be system drive on a mac that died) - any idea if ubuntu would be able to read the contents?08:33
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Jack_Sparrownpster: mcity clearlooks dosent work either?08:33
fittiziowhen I write smb:// in the address field of firefox , firefox shows me "smb ptocol not registered"08:33
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Jack_Sparrownpster: there are three themes in that folder I sent08:34
farshimjbroome, This is quite a specific bug: the same compiled program works on Redhat Kernel 2.9.6 but Seg faults on ubunutu 2.6.1508:34
Jack_Sparrowfarshim: what program?08:34
farshimJack_Sparrow: I have written a (simple) program in C08:34
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farshimJack_Sparrow: uses GMP to calculate a large number08:35
bluefox83how do i fic my left mouse button in enlightenment?08:35
bluefox83*fix08:35
Jack_Sparrowfarshim: Then post it on launchpad...08:35
ladydoorbluefox83: #enlightenment08:35
bluefox83ladydoor, nobody home08:35
ladydoorbluefox83: oh.08:35
gravesonwhat do i use do i format a disk that needs o have data copied to it and read from in windows08:36
aburtonI have an athlon 3800+ w/ 2GB memory, two 74GB non-RAID hd's and an (old) ati radeon 7000 pci video card all on an MSI k8n platinum dualbooting windows and 64 bit desktop. When I'm in windows, it's fine, but when I'm in ubuntu, it freezes whenever I try to play music, or view pictures or transfer a lot of stuff. When it freezes, the screen turns off as if the computer were turned off, but the fans on the machine are still going, and sometimes08:36
aburtonI can ssh into it. Keep in mind that I don't have to be doing anything graphically intensive for it to freeze, so I don't know if it's the gfx card or not. I actually thought it was the southbridge, but as I said, it works fine in windows08:36
Jack_Sparrowbluefox83: it isnt an issue with Ubuntu08:36
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pianoboy3333Does anyone here know how to rip from a dvd with mencoder?08:36
andrerhas anyone here ever got a apache to authenticate with AD by using mod_auth_ldap? I am in need of help :(08:36
Jack_Sparrowgraveson: I use fat3208:36
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bluefox83Jack_Sparrow, picky picky08:36
pianoboy3333graveson: yea, use fat3208:37
bluefox83Jack_Sparrow, i would think you would offer support for any software found in the repositories08:37
Jack_Sparrowbluefox83: go to microsoft and tell them you are having a problem with photoshop and see how far you get08:37
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nubuntu_hello08:38
nubuntu_i need some help08:38
gravesonwhat utility can i use to format it in ubuntu08:38
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nubuntu_i cant install gksudo08:38
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Jack_Sparrowgraveson: gparted08:38
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bluefox83Jack_Sparrow, first off...i don't do microshit, second, microshit is not open source, so they don't have that "we'll help as best we can" attitude. this is a linux channel..i should be able to expect some help on this despite the fact that it's not entirely a ubuntu issue08:38
Jack_Sparrownubuntu_: you dont install gksudo08:38
gravesonthanks all08:39
ladydoorbluefox83: this channel is all volunteers08:39
Jack_Sparrownubuntu_: gksudo is used to have root/superuser access in other gui programs08:39
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Jack_Sparrownubuntu_: like gksudo nautilus08:39
NullVectoranyone know where i can view a streaming wmv file to see if I have this codec installed correctly?08:40
bkudriahelp! i'm trying to get my sound working...aplay -l lists my card, and all my volumes are turned up, but i hear no sound!08:40
nubuntu_<Jack_Sparrow> i dont have gksudo installed08:40
vgoltserso, I need to selectively open ports on my system to specific IP addresses (mask support is very nice here)08:40
ladydoorbluefox83: this is free software you're using. it's nobody's *responsibility* to answer to you. if somebody helps you, it's because they know how and *feel like it*. this isn't big business, and there is no market share08:40
vgoltsernubuntu, yes you do08:40
Jack_Sparrownubuntu_: if you type gksudo nautilus what happens08:40
NemesisUKNullVector, try at dl.tv08:40
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nubuntu_<Jack_Sparrow> dont have nautilus, but when i run gksudo i get command not found08:40
Jack_Sparrownubuntu_: HAve you used sudo to do much on your system08:40
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nubuntu_<Jack_Sparrow> ?08:41
ladydoorbluefox83: this channel is made up of volunteers, not paid tech support staff. you *can* pay for tech support if you want, but this isn't the place for that08:41
ozzloywhere is a guide for setting up a bugzilla server on ubuntu?08:41
Jack_Sparrownubuntu_: what os are you running08:41
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bluefox83ladydoor, i didn't say it was..all i was getting at is, just because it isn't directly a ubuntu issue, doesn't mean you can't try to offer some help..08:41
nubuntu_<Jack_Sparrow> nubuntu08:41
richiefrichbkudria i was told this --> if it doesn't work out of the box, it's a bug. alsaconf(1) should not be necessary to get audible sound OOtB.08:41
bluefox83ladydoor, i've been using linux for a few years now, and i have always appreciated every bit of help i get08:41
ladydoorbluefox83: if there isn't anybody who happens to know the solution, you may feel ignored.08:41
ladydoorbluefox83: ah, sweet then08:41
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fyrestrtrwhat's the problem?08:42
richiefrichbkudria kick it in #alsa08:42
bkudriarichiefrich: well, the external speakers worked out of the box!08:42
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bkudriarichiefrich: but then i installed and compiled the alsa modules08:42
djallikat{SM}anyone feel like joining me in some head scratching over an install problem?  i'm tired of gettin splinters under my nails here... :p08:42
ladydoorbluefox83: i mean, the reason i won't help you isn't out of spite, it's just that i used enlightenment for exactly one day and the quit08:42
NullVectorNemesisUK: dl.tv works fine but not so sure that is a WMV file?08:42
bluefox83ladydoor, no no..if no one know then no one knows..that's alright..but turning me away simply because it's not directly a ubuntu issue is a bit rude..just say you don't know..s'all i ask08:42
ladydoorbluefox83: so i don't know08:42
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W9ZEB-Larshow do I do the dapper version of "sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)08:42
richiefrichbkudria what modules?08:42
ladydoorbluefox83: sorry08:42
crimsunbkudria: if you didn't compile and install 1.0.12, then it's too old.08:42
NemesisUKNullVector, goto to the dload page there is a wmv there08:42
richiefrichbkudria didk you install alsa-driver ?08:42
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fyrestrtrW9ZEB-Lars: what do you mean 'dapper version'? Its the same regardless of which version you are using.08:43
ladydoorbluefox83: i was only trying to direct you to a spot where people would be more likely to know :-/08:43
bluefox83ladydoor, don't be sorry, you didn't do anything wrong08:43
bkudriacrimsun: i did "m-a a-i alsa"08:43
Specdjallikat{SM}: after getting splinters under your nails, i would not suggest scratching your head08:43
crimsunbkudria: keep in mind that we track the latest changes to the HDA drivers for dapper.08:43
fyrestrtrW9ZEB-Lars: only its linux-headers08:43
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djallikat{SM}lol Spec08:43
Jack_Sparrowbluefox83: 869 people should NOT have to tell you they dont know.08:43
crimsunbkudria: using which alsa-source package?08:43
NemesisUKNullVector, there is a link under the flash movie08:43
misieqhow can evaluate regexp?08:43
bluefox83ladydoor, yes..YOU tried to help. Jack_Sparrow simply said it's not a ubuntu issue..which i do not appreciate..atleast say you don't know08:43
W9ZEB-Larsfyrestrtr: I get a Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-38608:43
bkudriarichiefrich: there is no such package08:43
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bkudriacrimsun: err, i have no idea08:43
nubuntu_<Jack_Sparrow> so ?08:43
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ladydoor!fingerpointing08:44
fyrestrtrW9ZEB-Lars: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fingerpointing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
crimsunbkudria: if you use the one in dapper/universe, then it's too old. The in-kernel version is actually newer than what's in the repo.08:44
richiefrichbkudria then what do mean by the modules?08:44
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Jack_Sparrownubuntu_: I know nothing about nubuntu..08:44
NullVectorty, looks like I have it installed wrong then, I get audio, no video08:44
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bkudriacrimsun: currently installed, i have 1.0.10-4ubuntu408:44
fyrestrtrbluefox83: there is #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of talk.08:44
misieq!regexp08:44
crimsunbkudria: that's too old.08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about regexp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
W9ZEB-Larsfyrestrtr: perfect, thank you.08:44
djallikat{SM}i've burned both the main install and alternate install cds, and tried both, both die partway into installs on a machine that was running SuSE slowly but useably without problems (until i killed the x-server permenantly and decided SuSE was too slow and killed the partition table)08:44
bkudriarichiefrich: i ran "m-a a-i alsa" it's an nvidia thing08:44
fyrestrtrW9ZEB-Lars: no problem :)08:44
bkudriacrimsun: so what should i do?08:44
bluefox83fyrestrtr, thanks..didn't know there was a ubuntu off-topic channel08:44
crimsunbkudria: the in-kernel version of alsa (alsa-kernel) is 1.0.12+hg08:45
richiefrichcrimsun ok ty you can help bkudria  i see your a dev :P08:45
nubuntu_<Jack_Sparrow> it doesnt have anything to do with it, its based on ubuntu and its using its repositorry and apt-get and everything is the same08:45
crimsunbkudria: revert to the version that's distributed with 2.6.15-26.4608:45
fyrestrtrdjallikat{SM}: partway where?08:45
Jack_Sparrowbluefox83: the amount of help people get is partly based on their attitude..08:45
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bluefox83Jack_Sparrow, and yours, don't forget that08:45
bluefox83Jack_Sparrow, i always appreciate any help given08:45
djallikat{SM}fyrestrtr: the text based installs fall over trying to get a DHCP from my router, the graphical install gets as far as formatting before dying...08:46
redsoxfan90hello08:46
redsoxfan90i have a question08:46
bkudriacrimsun: again, how?  sound worked on my external speakers (but not the headphone jack) so i ran sudo m-a a-i alsa ...and everything broke...how do i fix it?08:46
redsoxfan90i have a ati graphic driver and when i play bzflag i get a delay08:46
fyrestrtrdjallikat{SM}: what kind of machine is it?08:46
rukuarticDoes anyone know how I could set up "profiles" on my laptop (eg, docked with a different resolution and without cpu frequency scaling) and not docked?08:46
fyrestrtr!ask08:46
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:46
redsoxfan90when i move the mouse up it takes a second or so to kick in08:46
bkudriacrimsun: will newer drivers necessarily help?08:46
redsoxfan90but i get enough fps08:46
fyrestrtrrukuartic: I think that stuff is in power management.08:46
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redsoxfan90anyone know?08:47
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fyrestrtrredsoxfan90: how much ram on your machine, and how much ram on the video card?08:47
crimsunbkudria: unmount the volatile stuff (see the output from ``mount''), remove alsa-modules\*, alsa-source\*, linux-image-$(uname -r), then --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r)08:47
Specdo different resolutions on an lcd screen take up different amounts of power?08:47
djallikat{SM}fyrestrtr: Dual celeron 400, 384mb, agp TnT2, 27gig hdd, compaq branded PCI network, Advansys scsi running a cd burner out of the arc, ide 56xcdrom, SB-live sound, USB mouse08:47
crimsunbkudria: newer drivers should give you audible sound but not necessarily out of the headphone jack08:47
rukuarticfyrestrtr: not quite... that only controls when to suspend and what to do if the laptop lid's closed on AC or DC08:47
crimsun(in which case it's a jack sense/pin issue)08:47
fyrestrtrdjallikat{SM}: are you using the burner or the ide to boot?08:48
bkudriacrimsun: ok...by volatile, you mean the stuff that's not actually the drive?08:48
rukuarticfyrestrtr: If i could tell whether or not my laptop's on AC or DC throguh something in /proc I could write a script...08:48
misieqhow can evaluate regexp?08:48
elohi all08:48
ladydoorhello08:48
elohave a question :)08:48
crimsunbkudria: no, I mean l-r-m, which you can see from the output of ``mount'', which I mentioned above08:48
rukuarticmisieq: expr $(regexp)08:48
monteiromy microphone doesnt work, i'm using an intel sound card, anyone knows how to solve it ?08:48
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Specrukuartic: check in /proc/acpi08:48
fyrestrtrrukuartic: well certainly there is a way to detect it because the battery monitors knows about it.08:48
NullVectorother than the w32 codecs is there anything else I need to view WMV files that are streamed?08:48
djallikat{SM}fyrestrtr: Tried both, they will both boot the graphic install to desktop, but fail if asked to verify the disk08:48
crimsunmonteiro: which codec?08:48
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Jack_Sparrow!restricted08:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:49
redsoxfan90fyrestrtr: i have 512 memory08:49
redsoxfan90fyrestrtr:  please check your pm08:49
rukuarticSpec: Thanks08:49
rukuarticfyrestrtr: :P I figured08:49
bkudriacrimsun: oh! ok, i'll try that !08:49
vgoltserdoes samba have a ping utility?08:49
vgoltserbluefox, what was your problem again?08:49
monteirocrimsun : snd-hda-intel08:49
fyrestrtrdjallikat{SM}: hrmm, okay. What is the status of the disk? Does it have anything on there. Do the alternate install, give your card a static IP address, then try to verify the partition table on the disk.08:49
NullVectorJack_Sparrow: been there done that. seems that something is amiss somehwere though cause wmv files still do display, I only get audio08:50
crimsunmonteiro: head -1 /proc/asound/card0/codec*08:50
djallikat{SM}fyrestrtr: how do i skip the automatic DHCP call?08:50
redsoxfan90fyrestrtr: ????????///08:50
fyrestrtrvgoltser: what do you mean? You can use the non-samba ping utility. Ping is ping.08:50
rukuarticfyrestrtr: Oh, I found it. Its just a simple text file with on-line/off-line. Now how would I set a script to run when that changes?08:50
redsoxfan90you asked a question so i told you08:50
fyrestrtrredsoxfan90: wait please.08:50
redsoxfan90ok08:50
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monteirocrimsun : Codec: Generic 14f1 ID 504708:50
fallingdutchare there any good howtos of installing ubuntu using debootstrap?08:50
Jack_SparrowNullVector: what was that link to the wmv file.. let me see if it works here.08:50
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Jack_Sparrow!install08:50
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:50
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crimsunmonteiro: pastebin your ``amixer'' and tell me the url, please.08:51
puppydoeyeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa08:51
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Jack_Sparrowanother satisfied user08:51
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NullVectorjack_Sparrow: http://zdpub.vo.llnwd.net/o2/dltv/episode89/dl.tv.089.wmv08:51
barryHello, all. Can anybody provide a quick command to display the size of all partitions on the hard drive on which Linux is installed?08:51
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vgoltserbarry, it is something simple, but it escapes me atm ... hold on08:52
fyrestrtrredsoxfan90: what kind of card is it, and how much video ram do you have?08:52
vgoltserbarry, you can do mount for starters :)08:52
apokryphos-barry: df -h08:52
ucordesJack_Sparrow: you allways here, keepin up the good help when i join. i really appreciate that08:52
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monteirocrimsun : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2199708:52
bkudriacrimsun: if i remove the linux-image package and then reinstall it, i'll be ok, right?  it has a very scary warning!08:52
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Specrukuartic: do you have anything in /proc/acpi/power_resource?08:52
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barryapokryphos-, Thanks!08:53
flakedoes anyone know if i can setup a gateway 7320 laptop with a bootable usb flash drive?08:53
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crimsunbkudria: yes. If you want to be absolutely paranoid, do this first: apt-get -d --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)08:53
barryvgolster, apokryphos- beat you to it.08:53
Jack_Sparrowucordes: I do try...  sometimes wine"ers get me irritated08:53
bkudriacrimsun: what does that do?08:53
redsoxfan90fyrestrtr: i have a ati08:53
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redsoxfan90and  i dont know how much ram it has08:53
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vgoltserdf ... there we go08:53
crimsunbkudria: it downloads the binary package for the kernel and various kernel modules08:54
djallikat{SM}what's the chipset redsoxfan90?08:54
Specbarry: you could do: cd /; du -ckhs *  ... but that'll just show you the size of every folder below where you sit (/)08:54
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Jack_SparrowNullVector: I got a few seconds of vid and audio...08:54
rukuarticfyrestrtr: Whoops, man acpid. Thanks for your help! X-x08:54
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vgoltsernow, is there a samba ping utility that will try to look up the names on a WINS server?08:54
NullVectorI just get audio08:54
bkudriacrimsun: oh, ok...thanks08:54
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Jack_SparrowNullVector: what is your video card?08:54
redsoxfan90i have no clue what my chip set it08:54
Matt123red08:54
Matt123oops08:54
redsoxfan90how can i check all of this stuff?08:54
azurealhi, i just compiled 2.6.17.11 kernel, but there appears to be no /lib/firmware/2.6.17.11 directory...where do i put the firmware for my wireless card?!08:54
fyrestrtrrukuartic: ah, yes there is, a second please.08:55
vgoltserwindows can find servers through \\servername ... and the servername is registered with WINS server, not DNS :(08:55
NullVectorjack_Sparrow: Nvidia 660008:55
birdfishOkay, I'm going to attempt to install my nvidia drivers.  But I need to know how to get out of x and then back into it first08:55
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Jack_Sparrowsame here08:55
Jack_Sparrowpci-e08:55
Warbo!info tor08:55
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB08:55
NullVectorjack_Sparrow: google video works fine. youtube works alright08:55
birdfishAnyone know the commands to jump from different runlevels off the top of their heads?08:55
vgoltserbirdfish, ctrl+alt+backspace08:55
redsoxfan90how can i check my chipset?08:55
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djallikat{SM}modprobe it redsoxfan90?08:55
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birdfishvgoltser: And then after I reboot I'll be back in x?08:55
NullVectorjack_Sparrow: unfortunatly mine is agp8x08:55
Jack_SparrowNullVector: gimme a sec..08:55
redsoxfan90in terminal?08:55
redsoxfan90modprobe dont work in terminal08:56
fyrestrtrredsoxfan90: lspci -vv | grep VGA will tell you.08:56
vgoltserbirdfish should be, if not startx08:56
birdfishvgoltser: thanks dude :)08:56
Specbirdfish: ctrl+alt+backspace will kill X, and then probably restart it, if you want it to stay stopped you'll want to do: /etc/init.d/gdm stop, to start it back up when you're done installing the driver, do: /etc/init.d/gdm start08:56
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redsoxfan90fyrestrtr: you want me to put that in pastebin?08:56
bkudriacrimsun: ok, i'm rebooting, and hoping it works...but if it isn't, i'm coming back here :)08:56
fyrestrtrredsoxfan90: just tell me the ram amount :)08:56
birdfishSpec: Thanks man.  I thought there was something more than ctrl+alt+backspace08:57
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birdfishBack in a few guys08:57
ladydoorbkudria: oh no, what shall we do if you *come back???*08:57
redsoxfan90ping- SERR- FastB2B-08:57
redsoxfan90        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Step08:57
redsoxfan90that doesnt say ram08:57
fyrestrtrredsoxfan90: actually, yeah, pastebin it.08:57
bkudrialadydoor: tremble in fear! bwa ha ha08:57
Spechah08:57
djallikat{SM}redsoxfan90: easier question - does your videocard have a heatsink on the main chip?08:57
flakedoes the usb flash drive need to be present before it will show as bootable by the bios, if it supports that option?08:57
monteirocrimsun : any ideas about the microphone?08:57
crimsunmonteiro: is recording audible after adjusting using a mixer that uses the oss api?08:57
crimsunmonteiro: e.g., aumix08:57
fyrestrtrredsoxfan90: pastebin the output of lspci -v08:58
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redsoxfan90no clue heatsink08:58
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QQQOmniDQuestion about zsnes!08:58
djallikat{SM}ok... just thinking that very few old cards had a lump of metal stuck to the chip to stop it melting..08:58
redsoxfan90i pastebin this08:58
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redsoxfan90http://pastebin.com/77909608:59
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monteirocrimsun : no08:59
redsoxfan90there 1 link08:59
crimsunmonteiro: try that, then.08:59
redsoxfan90i have another 1 coming08:59
ladydoor!anyone08:59
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:59
crimsunmonteiro: it's also quite probable that the necessary pins for your codec haven't been prodded08:59
randomtimehelp plz... My usb won't work on linux... it works on my laptop but not on the one i want to install... i have tried multiple devices... can anyone help me?08:59
flakeumm.... huh?08:59
PingunZwhere is the splash (after gdm ) and usplash( bootscreen ) located ?08:59
azurealso does anyone have experience w/ 2.6.17?08:59
redsoxfan90http://pastebin.com/77909809:00
djallikat{SM}redsoxfan90: the important bit is: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)09:00
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monteirocrimsun : so i've to wait ?09:00
ladydoorazureal: i think most people end up sticking with the default ubuntu kernel (2.6.15). sorry09:00
PingunZazureal, I have 2.6.17 in edgy ..09:00
flakei dont know randomtime, on my regular pc i could not get it to boot on my third internal harddrive, had to set up partition on first harddrive09:00
redsoxfan90theres the other link09:00
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redsoxfan90that one is more important09:00
Jack_Sparrowrandomtime: HAve you tried setting the usb in bios/cmos to 1.1 and not 2.0?09:00
flakeso usb i have no clue09:00
Khamaelcan I make evolution copy this weeks schedule to the next few weeks? I`ve just began school, and I want to have classes in evolution and my pda.09:00
randomtimei'll try that...09:00
PingunZ!splash09:00
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.09:00
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PingunZ!usplash09:01
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto09:01
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PingunZWhere is the Login-Splash screen located ?09:01
redsoxfan90did those 2 links help?09:01
PingunZredsoxfan90, no :)09:01
redsoxfan90what do i need?09:02
azurealPingunZ, do you happen to know why there is no /lib/firmware/2.6.17.11 directory (so that i can put my wireless card firmware) ?09:02
redsoxfan90they said commands09:02
redsoxfan90so i pasted them...09:02
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mwePingunZ: /usr/share/gdm/themes/09:02
djallikat{SM}well.. it told me what your card is redsoxfan90, an ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)09:02
Shin_Goukihi! i got questions regarding upstart, just therorie but i like to discuss, anyone here?09:02
redsoxfan90ok09:02
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PingunZoh redsoxfan90 ty09:02
redsoxfan90thats helpfulll09:02
NullVectorshould I have teh gstreamer0.10-good repo installed?09:03
Specazathoth: /lib/hotplug/firmware ?09:03
djallikat{SM}redsoxfan90: Since it's coming up as PCIE, it's a nice new PCI-Express card, should have lots of memory on it and be fast as all getout09:03
randomtimejack sparrow I'm on CMOS how would I change usb version?09:03
PingunZmwe, that is the GDM, I'l talking about the splash screen ( after the gdm )09:03
redsoxfan90then how come its not working well?09:04
redsoxfan90its delayed09:04
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Jack_Sparrowrandomtime: there is usually an otion for 1.1 or 2 or off09:05
djallikat{SM}redsoxfan90: you probably need to check the x-server knows to talk to the card as an ATI and not use the generic svga libs09:05
redsoxfan90xorg-driver-fglrx, and installed it. I then changed the line in my xorg.conf file from Driver "ati" (the open source ATI driver) to Driver "fglrx" (the closed source ATI proprietary driver), added Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, AUTO"09:05
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bkudriacrimsun: it fixed it!  thanks!09:05
redsoxfan90i did this and it didnt help09:05
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randomtimejack sparrow I'm on CMOS how would I change usb version?09:05
crimsunbkudria: np09:05
redsoxfan90djallikat{SM}: how do i do this?09:05
randomtimeok sorry for posting again09:05
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bkudriacrimsun: but, the headphone jack still doesn't work...the sound continues to come out of the speakers09:05
bkudriacrimsun: it works in windows, though...09:05
bkudriacrimsun: any idea?09:05
Jack_Sparrowrandomtime: go through the different menu options and look for it. bios are not standard so it is up to yo to find it09:05
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flakedoes a usb flash drive need to be in before you have the option to boot from it in the bios?09:06
ladydoorbkudria: do this in a terminal:  alsamixer09:06
djallikat{SM}redsoxfan90: don't ask me, i don't know much about the current version either... but it may be worthwhile going into the machine bios and seeing if you can set the video card to use a fixed amount of video ram09:06
Specflake: try it and find out09:06
flaketrying to decide if i can warrant a usb purchase, dont have one to try with09:06
crimsunbkudria: can't confirm anything until the changes I've pushed to our kernel lead are merged and rolled out in a new kernel.09:06
Jack_Sparrowbkudria: are you sure you are not plugging into the microphone jack09:06
bkudriaJack_Sparrow: very sure09:06
Jack_Sparrowbkudria: had to ask09:06
flakewill they take back usb drives once they've been used09:06
kromelAnyone with exp with a USB Headset w/Mic?09:06
Shin_Goukihello! i got questions regarding upstart, just theory but i like to discuss, anyone here?09:06
Specflake: your motherboard might not support booting from usb, why don't you just google for your motherboard and see if it does or not?09:06
ladydoorbkudria: then press n a couple times to get over to the second box at the bottom that says headhpone09:06
redsoxfan90ok09:07
redsoxfan90this sounds very hard09:07
bkudrialadydoor: and...?  everything is turned up09:07
ladydoorbkudria: does it have "MM" in the box above it? you should be on the "headphone jack sense" box09:07
bkudriacrimsun: err, what?  it's a known problem?09:07
Jack_Sparrowflake: Will who take them back.. depends on where you got it.. ebay.. not likely, frys.. yes09:07
flakei did, all i got were the accessories available for it still09:07
flakei'll look again09:07
ladydoorbkudria: which won't have a bar over it, just a box09:07
flakeit's a gateway 7320, think its phoenix09:07
flakebios09:07
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crimsunbkudria: of course.09:08
randomtimejack sparrrow: lol u've got alot on ur hands! I'm booting now :D09:08
Jack_Sparrow:)09:08
bkudrialadydoor: well, first of all, i have no alsamixer command, just alsamixergui09:08
Jack_SparrowAnd I NEED lunch09:08
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datatecwonder if anyone could help me with a permissions issue on my ubuntu server (software install related)09:08
Jack_SparrowPeople, I must eat... back when I am done09:08
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crimsunbkudria: unless you've mucked with our alsa-utils package, you _should_ have /usr/bin/alsamixer .09:08
bkudriacrimsun: oh.  when might the new ubuntu kernel be released?  would it still be 2.6.15?09:09
ladydoorbkudria: ok...is there a "headphone jack sense" spot? otherwise, do apt-get install alsamixer09:09
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flakesorry to ask such dumb questions, i'll go figure it out09:09
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ladydoorbkudria: basically, make sure that "headphone jack sense" isn't muted09:09
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bkudrialadydoor: aah, i had to install alsa-utils, crimsun had me purge a bunch of stuff09:09
crimsunbkudria: no idea, I'm not the kernel lead. Yes, it will still be 2.6.15, though the version number doesn't mean a whole lot.09:09
OisacXhi09:09
azurealso anyone know the firmware directory for 2.6.17?09:09
bkudrialadydoor: nothing is muted09:09
crimsunazureal: /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/09:10
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bkudriacrimsun: so who should i ask?09:10
ladydoorbkudria: oh. hmmm. that worked on my computer09:10
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ladydoor:-/09:10
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bkudrialadydoor: but thanks for helping!09:10
OisacXanyone tried k9copy here?<09:10
crimsunbkudria: no one, because that's not a decision that's set in stone.09:10
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azurealcrimsun, 2.6.17 does not exist there, that's why i asked09:10
ladydoorbkudria: np...good luck09:10
theblueHi all.09:10
crimsunladydoor: not all codecs enumerate an explict jack sense control element, particularly the HDA ones.09:10
crimsunazureal: so create it.09:10
theblueWhat's the difference between Ubuntu 6.06 and Ubuntu 6.06.1?09:11
bkudriacrimsun: gah!  at least an estimate?09:11
bkudriatheblue: a lot09:11
crimsuntheblue: security updates and bugfixes09:11
bkudriatheblue: read the changelog09:11
theblueOk.09:11
crimsunbkudria: "some time".09:11
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ladydoorcrimsun: eh?09:11
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bkudriacrimsun: thanks!  you're so helpful!  </sarcasm> :)09:12
crimsunladydoor: the various 'jack sense' control elements don't exist for all codcs.09:12
crimsuncodecs.09:12
theblueWhere's the changelog, then?09:12
puffAfternoon, I was looking for the package for the perl-imagemagick bindings... I remember installing it in the past as a .deb instead of via MCPAN.09:12
crimsunbkudria: I'm being as factual as I can be. No one knows for sure.09:12
puffBut aptitude can't seem to find it.09:12
bkudriacrimsun: ok, fine.  i'll keep my fingers crossed09:12
Shin_Goukihello!09:12
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Shin_GoukiI got questions regarding upstart, just theory but i like to discuss, anyone here?09:12
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crimsunbkudria: if it's any indicator, usually there's a release every month or so09:12
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bkudriacrimsun: when was the last release?09:13
ladydoorcrimsun:  so because not all codices support it, i shouldn't suggest it as a *possible* fix, though it might help an individual user?09:13
crimsunbkudria: you can find that in your changelog :)09:13
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weswh-i have an external hard drive that was formatted with MACOSX fs (used to be system drive on a mac that died) - any idea if ubuntu would be able to read the contents? and if so, how to mount it?09:13
bkudriacrimsun: cruel and unusual punishment!09:13
keitarocan anyone help me? For some reason my audio is higher pitched and plays considerably faster than what it was before. Anyone know how to change this back? It just started happening today09:13
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bkudriacrimsun: anyway, thanks!  i have to go09:14
OisacXanyone using k9copy and who can clic on keep menus?09:14
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crimsunladydoor: you should probably poll the user first to see if (s)he sees that actual control element, not to mention actually enabling said control element(s) on certain ac'97 codecs causes sound to be utterly inaudible.09:14
Dyskkeitaro, Sounds like a problem with the sample rate...09:14
ladydoorcrimsun: aha09:14
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NemesisUKOisacX, works here09:14
Syman!identd09:14
crimsunladydoor: examples are the analog devices 1981b family09:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:14
ladydoorcrimsun: well, thanks for letting  me know :-)09:14
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Syman!ident09:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:14
ladydoor!ident209:14
ubotuident2: An advanced ident daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.05-1 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 88 kB09:14
randomtimejack sparrow: It didn't work :(09:15
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Symanladydoor thanks :P09:15
ladydoorSyman: np09:15
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OisacXNemesisUK :  I've installed using synaptic, but everytimes I clic to keep menu, it search on DVD and crash out to desktop09:15
wweaselI just compiled and installed amsn and I am getting an error "Error in startup script: couldn't read file "amsn": no such file or directory" - why?09:15
evil-tuxbrb09:15
roboa1983hi, i have a 3Com 3c905-TX/TX-M Tornado rev 78 ethernet controller, and yesterday, after we changed from a DHCP to a static IP, it doesn't want to detect the internet anymore. Do you guys have any pointeres?09:16
Specroboa1983: run 'mii-tool'09:16
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Specroboa1983: and see what it says09:16
NemesisUKOisacX, have you tried uninstalling it complete;y and then reinstalling it, or run it from the cmd line to see what errors it puts out09:16
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OisacXcommandline would be good.. brb09:16
roboa1983i've tried dhclient, and it is always sleeping09:16
Shin_Goukihey! I got questions regarding upstart(init.d replacement), just theory but i like to discuss, anyone here?09:16
roboa1983also ifdown and ifup09:16
sladenShin_Gouki: /query keybuk09:17
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Mastastealth!VPN09:17
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD09:17
Shin_Goukisladen, thank u very much!09:17
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nickspoon!bluetooth09:18
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup09:18
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wweaselHey. I have a short question that I know is silly and easy to fix, I just don't know how. I just compiled and installed amsn from source, and when I run "amsn" i get "Error in startup script: couldn't read file "amsn": no such file or directory". If I navigate to /usr/bin and run the same command, it works though.09:19
ladydoorShin_Gouki: is there a #upstart?09:19
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Mastastealthhye guys, i installed ubuntu for my cousin. he likes it but needs some help setting some stuff up. Unfortunately, his router is a bit screwy. the only way for me to VNC to him is via an invite from him. But there is no invite in Ubuntu. is there invite on ssh or a way he can connec to me, so i can connect back? :-X09:19
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ZombieKinghello!!    wheres the difference between blocking and rejecting a protocol ?09:19
ladydoorwweasel: it installed in /usr/bin when compiling from source? shouldn't it have gone to /usr/local/bin?09:20
OisacXlibdvdread: Invalid title IFO (VTS_02_0.IFO).09:20
OisacXdamn09:20
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ladydoorwweasel: did you have an ubuntu version of amsn already installed?09:20
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santa99good evening09:20
santa99i would like to unpack a password secured rar archive how can i manage this ?09:20
ladydoor!rar09:20
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free09:20
wweaselladydoor: No, I specified /usr/bin, and no, I uninstalled the one from the repos first.09:20
santa99ladydoor, rar can't handle password secured rar files09:21
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ladydoor!unrar09:21
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free09:21
wweaselladydoor: It works perfectly if I specify manually the path the the program. But, how do I make a simple command work, without having to specify where it is.09:21
ladydoorwweasel: that's very odd, because it should be in your $PATH anyway09:22
ZombieKinghello!!    wheres the difference between blocking and rejecting a protocol ?09:22
ladydoorwweasel: *shrug*09:22
PingunZWhere is the splash screen located ?09:22
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wweaselladydoor: It should. Can I add it to my $PATH manually?09:22
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ladydoorwweasel: i mean, /usr/bin should already be in your $PATH, otherwise your system would break09:22
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ladydoorwweasel: i suppose you could create a launcher with the full path to it09:23
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NickRiversPingunZ: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash09:23
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wweaselladydoor: Yes, that works. Just wondering how I can fix it so it works as it should. :P09:23
mqueirossorry!09:23
ladydoorwweasel: maybe your system wouldn't break, but it would be no good. ummm, i really don't know, to be honest.09:23
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ladydoorwweasel: are you starting it from a terminal or from a graphikal app?09:24
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wweaselladydoor: terminal09:24
crocdhas anybody installed mrtg and snmp on a desktop system before?09:24
ladydoorwweasel: weird. do echo $PATH09:24
ladydoorcrocd: probably09:24
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wweaselladydoor: /usr/bin is there.09:24
el_tac0what group do I need to add a user to so i can use su?09:24
ladydoorwweasel: does it work to start it from the gnome runner?09:24
ladydoorwweasel: (alt+f2)09:25
crocdladydoor: snmp has been installed but it seems lacking for some reason. do you need any other packages?09:25
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niklas_eif you put your computer in waitstate (I think it is hibernate or suspend it)  and tries to resume, nothing happens, it tries to read from harddisk, nothing shows on screen, I have resume2=swap:/dev/sda5 and added the line in init (initrd) is there anything missing or isn't it saving the info before it goes in the waitstate?09:25
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roboa1983Spec: it says eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok09:25
ladydoorcrocd: *i* haven't. i just said that somebody probably has, somewhere09:25
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ladydoorcrocd: b/c it's better to ask your real question first :-)09:25
Specroboa1983: ok, so you switched it from dhcp to static and it doesn't work?09:25
wweaselladydoor: no. "wish8.5 amsn" doesn't, "wish8.5 /usr/bin/amsn" does.09:26
Specroboa1983: does dhcp still work if you switch it back?09:26
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ladydoorwweasel: what's this wish8.5 business?09:26
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crocdladydoor: kind of has a tree ever fallen int hte woods kindof answer :)09:26
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wweaselladydoor: development version of tcl/tk, to enable antialiasing.09:26
theineHi, could my a Dapper user please tell me the output of "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf"?09:26
crocdladydoor: it looks like you need snmp and snmpd09:26
ladydoorcrocd: lol09:26
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ladydoorwweasel: oh.09:26
roboa1983Spec: yes, they set up a static ip address for me, here at the lab and afterwards there was no connection afterwards. I tried the same address on my laptop and it all works out fine09:26
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crocdbrb09:27
ladydoorwweasel: what if you did wish8.5 ; amsn ?09:27
Specroboa1983: you're setting the netmask and broadcast correctly?09:27
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Specroboa1983: and the default gateway?09:27
theineplease, anybody, ls -l /etc/resolv.conf09:27
djacobsGood afternoon09:27
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roboa1983Spec: it seems to work fine now, for some reason09:27
wweaselladydoor: Doesn't work.09:27
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Specoh, so it's working off the static ip?09:28
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MrZaiuscan someone dcc me the default sources.list for dapper?09:28
Spec!easysource09:28
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:28
SpecMrZaius: ^^09:28
JairunCalothI'm having trouble getting sound working properly. I think I've completly buggered my driver up because now I have no sound at all09:28
KhamaelHow can I copy one week to another in evolution?09:28
roboa1983Spec: yeah, i don't suppose the mii-tool was the solution, was it?09:28
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Specroboa1983: nope, mii-tool just checks for network connectivity and speed negotiations09:28
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theinesigh09:29
djacobsI have a vanilla debian server I'd like to switch to Ubuntu. Two questions 1) is FTP/non-CD install supported by Ubuntu? 2) Is it possible to just change my debian sources list to an ubuntu sources list?09:29
iddo333!w32codecs09:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:29
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MrZaiusSpec: I've got one generated by that site that I want to replace with the default09:29
Spec!install09:29
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues09:29
nickspoonodd.09:29
Jack_Sparrowtheine:09:29
Jack_Sparrowls -l /etc/resolv.conf09:29
Jack_Sparrow[12:27]  <djacobs> Good afternoon09:29
Jack_SparrowSORRY09:29
roboa1983Spec: well, thanks a lot, maybe it was just a tantrum09:29
mzelemcould someone help me with a printer problem?09:29
AlienXdjacobs, do not do a dist-upgrade or you'll break your box. I think there is a net install of ubuntu but I'm not entirely sure of the process. Check the wiki09:29
djacobsThanks ubotu.09:30
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ladydoorwweasel: weird...09:30
nickspoonI can't connect over bluetooth with hidd but I can with hcitool.09:30
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djacobsI've read those pages, but it doesn't appear to illustrate how to install ubuntu w/o access to the CD drive.09:30
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theineJack_Sparrow: i'd like to know where /etc/resolv.conf points to09:30
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MrZaiusagain, does anyone still have a default sources.list that they can dcc my way?09:30
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JairunCalothhow do I install ALSA from the repos?09:30
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NemesisUKtheine, it doesnt point anywhere its a config file09:31
Jack_Sparrowtheine: 68.94.156.109:31
ladydoorMrZaius: please see < ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:31
theineNemesisUK: well, it used to be a symlink, but i've accidentely deleted it09:31
Specdjacobs: how do you want to install?09:31
Jack_Sparrowtheine: and 157.109:31
ladydoorMrZaius: somebody called on ubotu so that you would see that09:31
Specdjacobs: over the network via floppies? usb? harddrive?09:31
keitaroIs there anyway to configure only OSS playback?09:32
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Jack_Sparrow!unstall09:32
theineJack_Sparrow: thanks, but i don't need to know which dns server you're using09:32
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djacobsThanks Spec it's a remote server (hosted at servermatrix)09:32
Jack_Sparrow!install09:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:32
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randomtimejacksparrow: sorry i've been away! (about usb...) My usb still dosn't seem to work... anything else i can do... I have tried other versions but they fail as well09:32
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theineNemesisUK: could you please do "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" in a terminal?09:32
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Jack_Sparrowtheine: then I dont understand the question..09:32
NemesisUKtheine, yup np09:32
Jack_SparrowStill trying to eat..09:32
Specdjacobs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot09:32
theineJack_Sparrow: that's ok09:33
djacobsThanks Spec.09:33
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NemesisUKtheine, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48 2006-08-29 18:05 /etc/resolv.conf09:33
djacobsSpec, in those instructions I se:   sudo cp -av /media/cdrom0/install/netboot/* /var/lib/tftpboot/09:33
theineNemesisUK: hmm, ok09:33
theineNemesisUK: you're running Dapper, right?09:34
djacobsIs there a way to do this without downloading all the packages in one shot?09:34
NemesisUKtheine, yeah I am09:34
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djacobsI want something like Red Hat's FTP install.09:34
theineNemesisUK: strange, but thanks09:34
NemesisUKnp09:34
MrZaiusladydoor: again, I'm trying to replace a sources.list generated by the source-o-matic09:34
NemesisUKtheine, just create the file09:34
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NemesisUKand put your nameservers in it09:35
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Jack_SparrowMrZaius: do you just need to know where to put the new source file?09:35
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ladydoor!paste09:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:35
roboa1983it is really appreciated Kromel and Spec, it was, as it often is with ubuntu magic that solved the problem, and just waiting a little bit09:35
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roboa1983bye09:36
theineNemesisUK: still, i'd like to restore the original state09:36
DJAdmiralCan somebody help me out please? I'm having trouble with installing VMWare Player09:36
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MrZaiusJack_Sparrow: I've been using debian-related distros off and on for ~10 years09:36
Spec!xmms09:36
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs09:36
MrZaiusI know how to run apt09:36
theineis /etc/resolv.conf a symlink on anybody's Dapper system in here?09:36
Spec!info xmms09:36
MrZaiusI'm just trying to find a copy of the original sources.list09:36
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB09:36
keitaroDJAdmiral,  whatsup09:36
DJAdmiralI have a WinMe ISO that I had created from my windoze disc and an appropriate vmx file09:37
seby57can I install ubuntu AND Windows at the same time??09:37
SpecC:\09:37
Specwhoops :-/09:37
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pontifexMrZaius: if you move your sources.list out the way and then run apt-setup won't that generate one for you?09:37
NickRiversseby57: at the same time? no... on the same box? yes09:37
DJAdmirallemme pastebein what happens during an attempted install of vmware-player09:37
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erUSULseby57: did you mean in the same disc?09:37
DJAdmiral!pastebin09:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:37
keitaroalrighty09:37
MrZaiuspontifex: if I had apt-setup09:38
pontifexMrZaius: thought everyone did09:38
djacobsI'm not sure netboot is going to work.09:38
djacobsIs there no easy upgrade path from Debian to Dapper Drake?09:38
pontifexMrZaius: ooo, you're right09:38
MrZaiusbut the file's missing09:38
pontifexdjacobs: no09:38
seby57I mean if I can decide to run Windows OR Ubuntu09:38
pontifexMrZaius: what? your sources.list?09:38
djacobsThanks. Simply changing sources.list will cause disaster?09:38
MrZaiusno, apt-setup09:38
pontifexdjacobs: likely, yes09:38
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Specseby57: if you wait a bit you will eventually be able to09:39
pontifexMrZaius: ok, so you just want a vanilla sources.list?09:39
djacobsPontifex, thanks.09:39
MrZaiususr/sbin/apt-setup shows up in the slocate db, but not in the realworld/ls09:39
MrZaiusyeah09:39
MrZaiusthat's all I need09:39
ladydoorMrZaius: ok, see here09:39
ladydoorMrZaius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2199809:39
Specseby57: i heard microsoft is going to support open standards for hypervising, which is running two OSes on the same hardware at the same time, sharing resources.09:39
ladydoorMrZaius: i commented out anything that's not included with the default sources.list09:39
Lilandrahi09:39
MrZaiusawesome.  thanks!09:39
DJAdmiralkeitaro: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21999 <-- install log09:39
RMorris85hellllo lilandra09:39
Jack_SparrowSpec: I would never trust it09:39
ladydoorMrZaius: don't uncomment the cipherpunk packages, as they no longer exist09:39
theineMrZaius: this will get you started: "echo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list"09:40
erUSULseby57: yes at boot time09:40
SpecJack_Sparrow: as long as linux is the controlling host i don't see why it'd be bad09:40
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ladydoorMrZaius: and use plf if you happen to *need* one of their packages09:40
cicahi folks09:40
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seby57Sorry if I didn't explained correctly: I mean If I can decide during the booting up to run windows or ubuntu.09:40
cicacan anyone recommend a good bit torrent client?09:40
Jack_SparrowSpec: Do you really think windows will allow another os to control the host?09:40
Specseby57: that's what grub does09:40
DJAdmiralseby57: Yes you can09:40
pontifexseby57: yes, grub does that09:40
SpecJack_Sparrow: if it's open standards, then yes09:40
DJAdmiralcica: Bittornado never failed me09:40
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seby57Ok, thank you09:41
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Jack_SparrowSpec: this is also offtopic.. so I will not continue this discussion..09:41
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DJAdmiralseby57: but be sure you install windoze first, then ubuntu.09:41
pontifexJack_Sparrow: windows won't be able to "control" it if it's a true hypervisor09:41
pontifexassuming windows is a guest09:41
cicaDJAdmiral: thanks... is there others as well??09:41
square1hello everyone09:41
square1how can i turn my ubuntu ISO8859?09:41
MrZaiusouch!09:41
JairunCalothcan somone help me with alsa please...09:41
DJAdmiralcica: quite a few - but I find Bittornado the best09:41
MrZaiusladydoor: thanks09:41
cicahi squirrel09:41
ladydoor!anyone09:41
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:41
MrZaiusthat worked great09:41
pontifexsquare1: dpkg-reconfigure locales ?09:41
ladydoorMrZaius: np09:41
crimsunJairunCaloth: what do you need?09:41
MrZaiusnow upgrading ~900 packages instead of the ~40 in universe09:42
cicaDJAdmiral: thanks :-)09:42
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DJAdmiralcica: no problemo09:42
pontifexsquare1: sorry, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?09:42
JairunCalothI am digging myself farther and farther into things not working I think09:42
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DJAdmiralkeitaro: you there?09:42
keitaroDJAdmiral,  hmm yea09:42
EVRAMPhello, is there someone using SGS gallery script from sourceforge? pls where is the header of sites? i need to change encoding. thanx09:42
JairunCalothI have a relitivly new install of dapper09:42
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keitarolooking up a few things09:42
DJAdmiralkeitaro: okay.09:42
AlienXhey trappist, are you around/09:43
pontifexJairunCaloth: what's wrong?09:43
crimsunJairunCaloth: 6.06 or 6.06.1?09:43
keitaroDJAdmiral,  have you seen this : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18320909:43
trappistAlienX: pong09:43
JairunCalotheh... I"m not sure crimsun09:43
RMorris85who do i wanna smackk....09:43
JairunCalothI have lost all sound09:43
AlienXtrappist, :) any news on hte .deb?09:43
square1pontifex: it doesn't ask me the encoding, just runs all UTF installed :(09:43
DJAdmiralkeitaro: checking.09:43
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JairunCalothI think I've messed up my driver trying to fix it09:43
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crimsunJairunCaloth: lsb_release -r09:43
square1in the previous ubuntu, your command worked, in dapper it stop working09:43
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RMorris85Get ur typin together!09:44
NullVectoranyone know where you select which plugins firefox uses?09:44
pontifexsquare1: it should let you reconfigure the locales to whatever you want09:44
JairunCaloth6.0609:44
DJAdmiral!offtopic09:44
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ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:44
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djacobsSo, I have nothing to lose, so I am trying anyway.09:44
crimsunJairunCaloth: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'09:44
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djacobsThis is a vanilla debian box, I am just trying  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:44
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DJAdmiralkeitaro: i have read a similar article which addresses similar issues of dependancies09:44
DJAdmiralkeitaro: i'll read through this one anyway09:44
djacobsYes, I expect it to fail, but it will get me closer than the netboot.09:44
killownhow I upgrade my linux ubuntu with apt-get?09:44
madsenhow do i change to european charet in xubuntu? please help me09:45
pontifexladydoor: I can't prv09:45
JairunCalothcrimsun: 2.6.15-26.4609:45
madsen*charset :)09:45
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erUSULkillown: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:45
keitaroDJAdmiral, only thing i can think of would be the gcc or linux headers? Then again this guide is for vmware server, which is free and it worked for me09:45
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crimsunJairunCaloth: ok, 6.06.109:45
JairunCalothBasicly I wanted to be able to have more than one source of sound at the same time09:45
ladydoorpontifex: did you read cryptonomicon recently, by any chancy?09:45
cicaDJAdmiral: where does apt-get install bittornado by default?09:45
ladydoor*chance09:45
keitaroDJAdmiral, but other than that, i really have no idea with the vmware install failing09:45
pontifexladydoor: i have it in my pile of books to read, not read it, why?09:45
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Specladydoor: oo, oo, i have, i have.09:46
pontifexladydoor: shall we take this to #ubuntu-offtopic ?09:46
JairunCalothand now I have no idea what's going on09:46
DJAdmiralkeitaro: I got the gcc-4.0 and gcc-3.4 as well as the respecitve g++ and linux header packages09:46
ladydoorpontifex: your username is the codename for a cipher that's important to the book :-)09:46
square1pontifex: look pls http://pastebin.com/77913809:46
pontifexhah09:46
DJAdmiralkeitaro: nothing's still working09:46
wweaselladydoor: I figured out my problem.09:46
pontifexladydoor: it's also my company name :)09:46
ladydoorwweasel: sweet! what was't?09:46
DJAdmiralcica: not sure09:46
killownthanks09:46
ladydoorpontifex: oh...09:46
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Specpontifex: based out of?09:46
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dougskohey guys, how can i see my clock speed? i use conky now, but need a way to check it via terminal09:46
pontifexSpec: UK09:46
madsencharset change in xfce to iso-8859-1  anyone ?09:46
wweaselladydoor: It actually wasn't a problem, it was by design. wish8.5 runs whatever you give it in the current directory.09:46
keitaroDJAdmiral,  not sure then sorry09:47
ladydoorwweasel: oh! well, i'm glad you figured that out :-)09:47
Specpontifex: where's your companie's webpage?09:47
pontifexSpec: hahaha, for what it's worth pontifex.ltd.uk :)09:47
wweaselladydoor: Thanks for trying to help :)09:47
keitaroDJAdmiral,  is there a log somewhere09:47
eljimboquick question, is there a command or shortcut to login via the terminal and not graphically?09:47
datatecDJAdmiral I had to download the headers then vmware player installed correctly. However I am a total nubie so perhaps something else I did caused it. However I know you have to rebuild the kernal to vmware player to work so I am fairly sure you need to download the headers09:47
scuffHow do I get the Ubuntu installer to recognise my LVM partitions?09:47
DJAdmiralkeitaro: I'm having a go at installing xinetd.09:47
Specpontifex: hehe, it needs a little bit more black and some better shades of dark gray. maybe a little red.09:47
JairunCalothpontifex: I have lost all sound09:47
DJAdmiraldatatec: I already have the headers of my kernel version.09:48
ladydoorwweasel: np09:48
DJAdmiraldatatec: It still doesn't work.09:48
puffeljimbo: Clarify your question?09:48
crimsunJairunCaloth: which driver are you using?09:48
ladydooreljimbo: you need to turn off gdm at boot, like this:09:48
pontifexSpec: thanks :) will bear that in mind when I pay some web design fool to re-do it for me :)09:48
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JairunCalothcrimsun: alsa09:48
pontifex(or download a drupal theme)09:48
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JairunCalothtrying to anyways...09:48
puffdougsko:  look under /proc09:48
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ladydooreljimbo: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove09:48
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dougskopuff: ok cool09:48
ladydooreljimbo: and if you ever want it back, remember this command:09:48
datatecDJAdmiral  Sorry about that, unfortuantly thats about I know :(09:48
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ladydoorsudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults09:48
sharperguyshould i use oss or alsa with gizmo?09:48
JairunCalothcrimsun: I tried to make sure it was installed properly and now it's completly screwed up09:49
crimsunJairunCaloth: no, I mean the actual driver. I know you're referring to alsa.09:49
eljimbommm is there any shortcut just to do it once?09:49
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ladydooreljimbo: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults09:49
puffeljimbo: That does it just once.09:49
puffeljimbo: Oh, you mean...09:49
JairunCalothcrimsun: intel8x009:49
randomtimehi again... I need help still... jack sparrow has help me before but i havn't been able to finish the job... how do you change usb from 2.0 to 1.1 in the CMOS?09:49
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puffeljimbo: There's really two variations on your question;  1) how do you start up the machine without starting X,09:49
DJAdmiralkeitaro: hey wait... I forgot to export CC. Maybe If I do that it might work. Let me give it a shot09:50
puffeljimbo: 2) how do you log into the machine iwthout logging into X.09:50
eljimbook, yeah version 209:50
DJAdmiraldatatec: no problem - you tried even if you knew very little, and that's good! :)09:50
eljimbolike i can restart x by doing cntrl shift backspace?09:50
crimsunJairunCaloth: so no sound at all?09:50
ladydooreljimbo: and, from X, control+alt+F[1-6]  will take you too a fullscreen terminal, but in my opinion it's better to use ratpoison for that (better text resolution)09:50
crimsunJairunCaloth: nothing in /proc/asound/cards ?09:50
puffeljimbo: What ladydoor said.09:50
keitaroDJAdmiral, are you running on dapper?09:50
madman__I have no sound. can not play any music with no player. I've googled and searched my ass off. any help ?09:50
JairunCalothcrimsun: it appears to be installed, but I"ve lost all sound09:51
puffeljimbo: It sounds like there's something oyu'r enot saying... What's the problem you're trying to solve?09:51
NullVectorhow do I change the application that firefox is attempting to use to open files09:51
crimsunJairunCaloth: pastebin the output from ``amixer''09:51
eljimbonice thanks puff and ladydoor09:51
ladydooreljimbo: and C-A-F7 will take you back to X09:51
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eljimbothats what I was looking for09:51
mckinnojHey there, I guess I'll just jump in: Is it possible to get rhythmbox to play .m4a files in Ubuntu?09:51
DJAdmiralkeitaro: yes09:51
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ladydoorpuff: a lot of people like to boot to a CLI. i do. *shrug*09:51
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mckinnojHow would you go about doing that? I've insalled the packages listed on the official site regarding getting mp3s to work09:51
eljimboThanks, if you've got time for another question. Im trying to resize my ext3 partition, make it smaller to throw windows on09:52
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InnerF|REhas anyone gotten a Hauppage PCI tuner card with remote to work with Ubuntu?09:52
eljimbois the command interface for gparted good for that?09:52
InnerF|REits WinTV09:52
ladydoormckinnoj: there's a script to convert .m4a files to wav, and then you could convert them to ogg or mp3 (preferably ogg)09:52
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eschow do i change the character set in ubuntu?09:53
randomtimehi again... I need help still... jack sparrow has help me before but i havn't been able to finish the job... how do you change usb from 2.0 to 1.1 in the CMOS?09:53
Jack_Sparroweljimbo: fyi windows like to be the first os on the first partition...  also look at the bot into about !boot09:53
kromelJust making a comment here, but I'm just amazed at how well City of Heroes runs in Ubuntu/Cedega.09:53
sharperguyshould i use oss or alsa with gizmo?09:53
JairunCalothcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2200009:53
mckinnojladydoor: Yeah, I've heard about that.  I would like to avoid doing that if possible.  Is there a large quality loss in the conversion from wav to ogg?09:53
[g2] on dapper 6.06.1 LiveCD is there 1) way to pass a default screen resolution, 2) a way to tell shutdown to now check for removing the CD ? TIA09:53
DJAdmiralkeitaro: no. darn. luck.09:53
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JairunCalothWoW runs extremely well too in wine kromel09:54
eljimboyeah, i've done it before with windows second, figured i'd try09:54
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magneticubuntuhi guys09:54
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Icarehi there09:54
randomtimehi09:54
magneticubuntuI'm building IVTV for Unbunt09:54
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debnubHi there09:54
jribmckinnoj: yes it is possible (since mine can play them).  I'm not sure of the exact package though.  Have you isntalled all of the stuff help.ubuntu.com and the restricted wiki suggests?09:54
magneticubuntuand cant locate the hotplug firware directory...09:54
Icarei have a little bug with ubuntu09:54
Icarei have installed ubuntu on a external drive09:54
magneticubuntuWhere is Hotplug please? i dont have it in etc09:54
madman__how do i get the sound card working using ubuntu 6.06 ?09:55
keitaroDJAdmiral,  i doubt it would help, but maybe try vmware server?09:55
Icareand i cant upgrade my universe and multiverse sources09:55
crimsunJairunCaloth: first, try: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off09:55
mckinnojjrib: I don't think I've checked out the restricted wiki yet.  Thanks, I'll give that a look09:55
ladydoormckinnoj: ogg is generally very high quality, better than mp309:55
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Jack_Sparrowmadman__: start by telling people what sound card you have.09:55
ladydoormckinnoj: i haven't had a problem09:55
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bruenigogg is really good09:55
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jrib!multimedia > mckinnoj09:55
seby57to decide if I want to run windows or ubuntu on star up, should I use grub 2 or grub legacy?09:55
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madman__Jack_Sparrow: how do i get that info?09:55
seby57start up, sorry09:56
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magneticubuntuCAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE THE HOTPLUG FIRWARE DIRECTORY IS LOCATED PLEASE?09:56
micahcowan!shout09:56
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.09:56
magneticubuntuJack_Sparrow, you play BFME?09:56
disasmmagneticubuntu: can you not yell?09:56
magneticubuntuubotu, sorry09:56
crimsunmagneticubuntu: Dapper doesn't use hotplug.09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
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Jack_Sparrowmadman__: THe manual, the mfg website... opening the box09:56
randomtime!oen09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
DJAdmiralmagneticubuntu: ubotu is a chat bot. not a real person09:56
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magneticubuntucrimsun, so where do i put the firmware for IVTV it wants hotplug09:56
NickRiversseby57: use the most current version of grub... which os loads first is determined by the default setting in your /boot/grub/menu.lst file09:56
ladydoorseby57: you can use the default ubuntu grub...09:56
crimsunmagneticubuntu: if it wants hotplug, then you're out of luck.09:56
Jack_Sparrowmagneticubuntu: no...09:57
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magneticubuntucant link it or something?09:57
JairunCalothcrimsun: no change09:57
Gumby600mMy friend has a macbook.  When it is idle for about 60 sec, the screen dims (but does not turn off)... 5 minutes later the screen turns off.  Is there a similar thing in Ubuntu for laptops?09:57
puffladydoor: I practically live in bash and emacs, but hey, to each their own.09:57
madman__<--looking in his machine with a flash lite09:57
randomtimeSomeone help me plz?09:57
puffladydoor: I keep thinking about giving ratpoison a shot.09:57
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DJAdmiralseby57: just pop in a windoze disc, install win over your entire hard disk, then install ubuntu and make a partition for ubuntu during ubuntu setup09:57
crimsunJairunCaloth: now try: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 009:57
disasmmagneticubuntu: i have that... let me see if I can find it...09:57
Icarehi, i cant do a apt-get update09:57
Icareit return some error09:57
bruenigrandomtime what is your problem09:57
bruenigicare, what is the error09:57
Icarecant connect to the server :p09:57
magneticubuntudisasm, thank you :)09:58
ladydoorpuff: lol. it's awesome-tacular. ratpoison+screen+emacs+conkeror(for web browsing)=AMAZING09:58
Icare2s09:58
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randomtimei can't get my usb to work on linux09:58
JairunCalothcrimsun: nope09:58
dr_willispuff,  check out 'matchbox' :P for kicks09:58
seby57Is ok to do this if I have installed win home and I want to decide on startup between ubuntu and win?: run .iso ubuntu, install it, reboot and decide between the 2 OS.09:58
DJAdmiralGumby600m: System --> Preferences --> Power Management09:58
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humei'm searching for a toll to keep track of the time I spend on variuos work tasks, and where I can export this to, for instance, a spreadsheet - i use korganizer to plan time, but how to sum time spent?09:58
dr_willisseby57,  you dont 'run' an .iso09:58
JairunCalothcrimsun: sound was working just fine before, I"m pretty sure I broke the driver09:58
ladydoorrandomtime: what's your specific problem? (you should probably say it "out loud" and not to me)09:58
seby57ok whatever09:58
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crimsunJairunCaloth: what did you do?09:58
ladydoor!dual boot09:58
Gumby600mDJAdmiral:  Power Managment only lets me explicitly turn off the LCD after X minutes of being idle.  Do you know if I can dim my LCD after X minutes and turn off the LCD after X+dx minutes?09:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:58
bruenigIcare, what repo is trying to connect when it won't connect to the server09:59
disasmmagneticubuntu: /lib/firmware/`uname -r`09:59
ladydoor!dualboot09:59
ubotuDual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot09:59
DJAdmiralseby57: burn the ISO and run the ubuntu install after you install Win. then you'll be fine09:59
keitaroDJAdmiral, brb gonna restart my PC real quick09:59
NickRiversseby57: when you install ubuntu, it will check for other OS on your hdd when it installs the grub bootloader and make an entry for windows in the grub menu list09:59
ladydoorseby57: did you get that?09:59
DJAdmiralkeitaro: okay09:59
JairunCalothcrimsun: well not fine, I was trying to get it to play sound from more than one program at a time09:59
JairunCalothcrimsun: ex I couldn't listen to music while playing world of warcraft09:59
crimsunJairunCaloth: dmix is enabled by default for snd_intel8x0.09:59
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Icareit return : Err http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com dapper ......... cant connet [IP ...] 09:59
DJAdmiralGumby600m: sorry - you might want to try searching the ubuntu repoes though09:59
seby57Ok thank you all. I'm leaving to install Ubuntu. Wish me luck ;)09:59
crimsunJairunCaloth: that's a wine config issue.09:59
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DJAdmiralseby57: good luck!09:59
bruenigicare, perhaps that repo is down09:59
Icarei have tried fr server, usa server09:59
DJAdmiral!easysource > Icare09:59
ladydoorisn't that single-sound thing a persistent ubuntu problem?10:00
JairunCalothcrimsun: ah... well now my sound is broke and wine crashes when I start it lol10:00
NickRiversgood luck and get rid of windows hehehe10:00
Icareok10:00
magneticubuntudisasm: i'm using 2.6.15-23.powerpc10:00
Gumby600mDJAdmiral: Yeah, I tried that but it's not looking promissing.  Oh well.. thanks for the help!10:00
randomtimeMy speific problem is i can't get my usb mouse... nor other usb devices to work... they don't work on any other versions that I have tried10:00
Icarei have already upgrade the sources.list10:00
crimsunJairunCaloth: but what did you do to get to this present state?10:00
DJAdmiralGumby600m: at least I try!10:00
DJAdmiralIcare: try using a different archive mirror then10:00
Icarenote that linux is installed on an external drive ?10:00
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DJAdmiralIcare: maybe de? or us? or ae?10:00
bruenigIcare that doesn't matter10:00
johnnyanybody here print from dapper to a cups 1.1 server ?10:00
DJAdmiralIcare: or pk?10:00
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Gumby600mDJAdmiral:  Yup--much appreciated!10:01
Icareok so if it doesn't matter10:01
djacobsalll packages work except Errors were encountered while processing:10:01
djacobs kernel-image-2.4.27-2-38610:01
disasmmagneticubuntu: not sure, that's where I put it for my hdtv card10:01
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Icarewhat mirror should i use ?10:01
madman__Jack_Sparrow: Thank you. it's been a all-nighter. just read the help files (manual)10:01
NickRiversIcare: try using http://archive.ubuntu.com ... don't put the country code in front10:01
Icareok10:01
Icarethx10:01
ladydoorrandomtime: do you have libusb installed?10:01
Jack_Sparrowmadman__: good luck10:01
madman__Jack_Sparrow: sound working10:01
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JairunCalothcrimsun: well... I think I reinstalled the drivers10:02
DJAdmiralwell, er - I'm off to try and use QEMU then. If one thing won't work try another.10:02
JairunCalothcrimsun: only I don't think it went like it was supposed to10:02
Jack_Sparrowmadman__: I am ready for a nap myself10:02
randomtimeDon't know what it is... I havn't been able to install linux because i can't click the install button10:02
bruenig!alternate > randomtime10:02
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randomtimeburnig: what does that mean?10:03
NickRiversrandomtime: having trouble installing ubuntu?10:03
bruenigcheck out the alternate cd10:03
bruenigall text, don't have to worry about clicking the install10:03
JairunCalothcrimsun: can you reinstall alsa from the repos?10:03
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madman__Jack_Sparrow: chaintech ZNF3-250 (alsa mixer)10:03
randomtimeyes... I can't get my usb mouse to work so i can't install10:03
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danilhello10:03
keitaroDJAdmiral,  any luck?10:04
Jack_Sparrowrandomtime: did you have the cd do a self test?10:04
JairunCalothcrimsun: so they will just be like they were when I installed?10:04
danil,oxi10:04
crimsunJairunCaloth: so unmount the volatile stuff (see the output from ``mount''), remove the linux-image-$(uname -r) package, then --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r)10:04
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bruenigrandomtime, have you tried hitting "i" on the keyboard and then clicking enter as that would select and then launch it10:04
NickRiversI had to install ubuntu-server to get dapper up and running on my box... installed ubuntu-server, got rid of the server kernel and replaced it with the 686 kernel and then installed ubuntu-desktop10:04
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randomtimeno my cd trays jammed... i've got it in and i can't get it out! I FEEL LIKE DISMANTLEING THE COMPUTeR10:04
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djacobsso, my last obstacle to install is this:10:04
djacobsdepmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.o10:04
djacobsdepmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.o10:04
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djacobsI don't need either of those modules.10:04
RMorris85can i install draper on my xbox?10:04
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NickRiversrandomtime: look for a little hole on the front of your cd player - you can push a paper clip down into it and it will manually eject your cd tray10:05
RMorris85bruenig ha ha ha ha ha10:05
JairunCalothcrimsun: reinstall my kernel?10:05
crimsunJairunCaloth: the linux-image-$(uname -r) package, yes.10:05
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Jack_Sparrowrandomtime: did you have the cd do a self test?  It is an option on the first screen you see... It checks the cd for errors and bad burns10:05
g333k_workDoes my Pc will get more speed using kernel 686 than 386?10:05
bruenigJack_Sparrow, I think the issue is with the usb mouse driver10:05
Jack_Sparrowg333k_work: Slightly10:05
NickRiversg333k_work: yes10:05
mr_smeegalanyone know why network-manager will not connect to any network but network-monitor connects just fine10:06
mikeGrhello, i have a problem with booting ubuntu after installing new initramfs-tools (0.40ubuntu32) on my breezy badger installation, it will go into busybox and say it cant see the boot device which is a reiserfs part. on a nvidia soft raid10:06
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g333k_workOr maybe I wont notice the difference10:06
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__davidHello, can anyone help me debug my Xair?10:06
randomtimejack: i've done that10:06
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randomtimejack sparrow: it's not the cd it's my usb10:06
Jack_Sparrowrandomtime: HAd to ask..10:06
randomtimei know... lol10:07
mr_smeegalthis is insane10:07
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mr_smeegalsomeone help :(10:07
JairunCalothcrimsun: when do you mean when you say volitale stuff?10:07
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bruenig!patience10:07
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:07
Jack_Sparrowrandomtime: I understand, but if the cd has a bad file that controls your usb then you would have the same problem..10:07
randomtimejack sparrow: u said about changing usb in the cmos... I still can't find the command for that10:07
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crimsunJairunCaloth: see the output from ``mount'', as I mentioned previously.10:07
mr_smeegali apologize for that.. but i just dont get this10:07
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crimsunJairunCaloth: it's the linux-restricted-modules stuff. You don't need to remove it, just unmount it.10:07
Jack_Sparrowrandomtime: It isnt a command it is an option in most bios...10:08
randomtimejack sparrow: I can't seem to find it10:08
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mr_smeegalis there an ndiswrapper channel :)10:09
__davidWhen I try to start gdm under Xair, it fails (XKeepsCrashing) reports that it failed to load these modules: i810, kbd, mouse, wacom, synaptics.  The specific error is "Warning, couldn't open module ..."  I know these are installed, because normal Xorg works fine and I can even modprobe the modules and find them with lsmod.  Any ideas?10:09
mr_smeegali meant network-manager10:09
magneticubuntuhmm it seems with dapper drake it doesnt use hotplug but ivtv isnt seeing the firmware10:09
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djacobsSo, is there any way to customize the kernel when doing dist-upgrade?10:10
djacobsRight now I see:10:10
djacobsSetting up kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 (2.4.27-12) ...10:10
djacobsdepmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.o10:10
djacobsdepmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.o10:10
Jack_SparrowI need to take a customers call....  BAck later....10:10
HausbergI am having a problem with remote xdm10:11
Jack_Sparrow!pastebin > djacobs10:11
JairunCalothcrimsun: I don't see what you are talking about in mount10:11
mr_smeegalcan i modify the settings for network-manager10:11
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mr_smeegalanywhere?10:11
crimsunJairunCaloth: note the volatile keyword.10:11
DJAdmiral-busybrb10:11
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erUSULdjacobs: why would you want to run such an ancient kernel?10:11
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leks[17180361.824000]  mtrr: no more MTRRs available      anyone aware of this?10:12
ComputerexHey guyes10:12
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Computerexguys*10:12
mikeGrhello, i have a problem with booting ubuntu after installing new initramfs-tools (0.40ubuntu32) on my breezy badger installation, it will go into busybox and say it cant see the boot device which is a reiserfs part. on a nvidia soft raid10:12
djacobserUSUL: i don't!10:12
JairunCalothcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2200110:12
djacobsIt's just what apt-get update offered me.10:12
JairunCalothstill don't see it10:12
HausbergI have a second machine and after ssh and export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.xx.xx:0 konqueror for example won't start10:12
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djacobsapt-get upgrade kernel gives me the same error.10:13
Hausbergdoes anyone know how to allow remote x on gdm10:13
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crimsunJairunCaloth: you don't have l-r-m mounted. Don't worry about it.10:13
djacobsThanks Jack_Sparrow.10:13
deloreandmcHi Everyone! i'm having trouble installing ati drivers.  i've done the "sudo apt-get update.............sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv" thing but when i then type fglrxinfo i get: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".10:13
deloreandmcdisplay: :0.0  screen: 010:13
deloreandmcOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org10:13
deloreandmcOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect10:13
deloreandmcOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)10:13
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Jack_Sparrowdjacobs: What did I do now..?10:13
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ComputerexCan I please get some help here? BIOS is set to boot from CD. ISO is burned on the Disk with CreateCd. File isnt currupted. But the computer still wont boot from the CD...10:14
Jack_Sparrownp10:14
Icarere10:14
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ComputerexI have the alternative x86 file, that I downloaded from bittorrent10:14
deloreandmcim sure this has been asked a million times before - what im really wanting to know is what the "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". means10:14
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Jack_Sparrow!pastebin > deloreandmc10:14
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Icarei have tried the general mirror for ubuntu package10:14
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Icareand i have the same error10:15
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__daviddeloreandmc, try opening /etc/X11/xorg.conf and go to the Module section.  Make sure GLCore is not being loaded and "dri" is loaded10:15
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ToomToomChecKbonsoir10:15
ToomToomChecKca va bien ?10:15
Jack_Sparrow!fr10:15
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:15
__david!Xorg-air10:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Xorg-air - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:16
deloreandmcdri is loaded? i thought that needed to be switched off10:16
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djacobsapt-get install kernel-package offers the same error.10:16
santa99!thunderbird10:16
ubotua FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042710:16
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ComputerexHelp, anyone? I have been trying to configure Ubuntu since yesterday...10:16
g333k_workwhy I cant use synaptic? I receive this error: Uanble to copy the user's Xauthorization file10:16
g333k_workUnable*10:16
MarGarinawhat is the smartest way to switch a server distro to desktop?10:16
__daviddeloreandmc, given that it wants something named "*DRI", i'd suggest loading dri10:17
ladydoorMarGarina: sudo apt-get install *buntu-desktop (inserting a u, a ku, or a xu)10:17
g333k_workwhy I cant use synaptic? I receive this error: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file10:17
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ladydoor!repeat10:17
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience10:17
Jack_Sparrow!patience > g333k_work10:17
MarGarinaladydoor: cooooool, it's actually a meta package :)10:17
MarGarina10x10:17
deloreandmc_david i'll give it a try... cheers10:17
MetaMorfoziS!java10:18
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:18
__david!pastbin>__david10:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:18
__david!pastebin > __david10:18
JairunCalothcrimsun: so ap-get remove then apt-get install?10:18
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MetaMorfoziS!flash10:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:18
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ComputerexJava, bah. It doesnt get the job done10:18
ubuntuhi guys10:18
ladydoorMarGarina: yup!10:19
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ubuntuhi ubotu10:19
puffMetaMorfoziS: If you have questions about Java, I'll take a crack at 'em.10:19
lupine_85"how do you make it good?"10:19
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pufflupine_85: Good is a relative term :-).10:20
ubuntumake what good?10:20
__davidDoes anyone know about Xorg-air; enough to help me, at leastL10:20
puffubuntu: java.10:20
lupine_85"Better than a kick in the teeth"10:20
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ComputerexCan someone atleat get me the Md5 checksum for the alternative packet you download from bittorrent?10:20
ubuntupuff:  k, ty10:20
pufflupine_85: Ah, no.  Sorry.10:20
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crimsunJairunCaloth: yes10:20
lupine_85I had difficulty getting it to be better than a personalised appointment with Genghis Khan's private torturer#10:21
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ubuntulol10:21
ubuntulupine_85: hang in there dude :D10:21
pufflupine_85: What were you trying to do with it?10:21
wasssssupanyone have a way around a boot sequence problem so I can load ubuntu?10:21
pufflupine_85: Java's biggest problem is the insularity of the java world in terms of software.10:22
ubuntuwasssssup: using grub?10:22
ubuntuwasssssup:  what error r u getting?10:22
wasssssupit's a windows machine at the mkoment10:22
wasssssupmonent*10:22
ComputerexI have a question... Is this a HELP channel or not?10:22
lupine_85nothing in particular; it's always just been slow and painful to code in10:22
killownhow I configure My card video in xorg "card via s3g unichrome igp"10:22
lupine_85computerex: sort of10:22
ubuntuok u lost the ubuntu bootloader?10:22
killown?10:22
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wasssssupit refuses to see the CD, and ignores it and the A drive, and goes right into windows10:23
ComputerexI have been trying to get some since yesterday...10:23
jribComputerex: the md5sum is on the download page10:23
killownhelp me?10:23
pufflupine_85: That is, leaving aisde whether there is political or organizational insularity, and whether they cause functional insularity, it remains  a fact that you're either running java apps or you're not. Very few people run java apps wihtout knowing a lot about java.10:23
djacobsSince kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 isn't cooperating, is there another kernel package (or another source for kernels?)10:23
Computerexwasssup, same problem here...10:23
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djacobsThis is a pretty vanilla celeron box.10:23
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Jack_Sparrowwasssssup: Did you set your bios to boot from cd?10:23
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wasssssupyes10:23
djacobsAnd I'd love to be on 2.610:23
ubuntuwasssssup: in BIOS ur 1st boot device is cdrom , right?10:23
g333k_worknobody know about this error?: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file10:23
punkhello all, is fat 32 better for linux then fat? to be able to write to it in linux and windows?10:23
wasssssupyes10:23
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wasssssupCD/A/HDD10:23
punkits not for the main partion10:23
killownhow I configure My card video in xorg "card via s3g unichrome igp" please?10:23
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Hexidigital_punk::   yes10:23
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Jack_Sparrowwasssssup: What do you see when you look at the cd with windows? one file or several files and folders10:24
ComputerexI checked my BIOS right now. CD/CD-rw are first priorities.10:24
ToomToomChecKhello there10:24
punkthanks Hexidigital_10:24
Hexidigital_punk::   np10:24
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ToomToomChecKis this an english spoken chan ?10:24
wasssssupthe entire set of files10:24
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ubuntuwasssssup:  try cleaning the cd and cdrom10:24
killownmplayer don't show My video in full screen10:24
wasssssupI have10:24
Jack_SparrowToomToomChecK: yes english10:24
nahojdoes anyone know what I've done wrong here? (compiling latest alsa-driver) http://pastebin.com/77918610:24
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Jefferdoes anyone know how to disable the aic7xxx module from the kernel boot command line?10:24
Jack_SparrowToomToomChecK: the american version of it anyhow10:24
ToomToomChecKI didn't manage to have an answer on the french chan10:24
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ToomToomChecKshould i ask it there ?10:24
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Jefferdoes anyone know how to disable the aic7xxx module from the kernel boot command line?10:25
Jack_SparrowToomToomChecK: We are pretty tolerant of broken english.. give it a try10:25
ToomToomChecKthx ;)10:25
harisundJeffer I think you can list that module in the blacklist file and it will not get loaded during boot time.10:25
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ToomToomChecKI'm trying to configure my soundcard but it doesn't play any sound10:25
ToomToomChecKon the SPDIF outpout10:26
ubuntuharisund:  r u indian?10:26
JefferI am booting from CD to install Ubuntu10:26
killownanyone help-me?10:26
killownmplayer don't show My video in full screen10:26
Jack_SparrowToomToomChecK: surroundsound?10:26
killownhow I configure My card video in xorg "card via s3g unichrome igp" please?10:26
ubuntukillown: hi10:26
ToomToomChecKit's working on the anallogik outppout10:26
ToomToomChecKthat's 5.110:26
killownI am using it as vesa10:26
ubuntukillown: when u play the file , right lcik on it choose full screen10:26
killownubuntu I do it10:26
killownbut Don't size full video10:27
ubuntudo u get any error message?10:27
killownnop10:27
Jack_SparrowCan someone help ToomToomChecK with a surroundsound problem10:27
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killownubuntu I m using driver vesa for my card video10:27
ToomToomChecKJack_Sparrow:  that's for a Digital outpout, I've tried a lot of tutorial on the forums but I didn't managed to play any sound with the digital outpout10:27
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ToomToomChecKIt should be nice10:28
ToomToomChecK:D10:28
Jefferdoes anyone know how to disable the aic7xxx module from the kernel boot command line when booting from CD?10:28
redsoxfan90https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=2710:28
killownI need to configure xorg for My card video via s3g10:28
redsoxfan90which linux do i have?10:28
killownI don't know make it10:28
ubuntukillown: not sure10:28
ubuntusorry10:28
killownok10:28
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ubuntuToomToomChecK: hi10:29
ToomToomChecKhi ubuntu10:29
redsoxfan90https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 which linux do i have10:29
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ubuntuToomToomChecK: open konsole10:29
seb64bonjour10:29
ToomToomChecKdone10:29
ubuntutype alsamixer10:29
seb64hi10:29
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ToomToomChecKeverything is unmutted !10:30
ToomToomChecK...10:30
ToomToomChecK:=10:30
ComputerexMd5 verifies. BIOS boots from Cds. ISO burnt on a CD. Computer refuses to read the CD at boot up. What do you do?10:30
ubuntusee surround option there?10:30
redsoxfan90buy cd's online10:30
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magneticubuntuhi guys how to remove a package please?10:30
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ToomToomChecKubuntu yes sourround10:31
sdfsaedcjhmhi10:31
magneticubuntui have a deb I installed and want to remove it10:31
ubuntuToomToomChecK:  try changing its settings10:31
ubuntumagneticubuntu: use synaptic10:31
nathanaelWhen I plug in a usb drive, it says "only root can moutn /dev/sda1 to /media/usb" - how do I make this occur automatically?10:31
wweaselHey guys. I've added some fonts but they don't come up under "xlsfonts". Could anyone explain why, and how to make them?10:31
ToomToomChecKubuntu wich settings ? the sound is 80% and not mutted10:31
seb64Who has ubuntu64?10:32
StoneNoteComputerex, put a different CD in computer and boot from it to make sure it is the CD and not the CD player10:32
ubuntuToomToomChecK:  the surround setting?10:32
ComputerexStoneNote: ALready tried that...10:32
ubuntunot sound10:32
StoneNoteComputerex, and?10:32
ToomToomChecKubuntu there are 3 ones10:32
ComputerexIt works perfectly10:32
ubuntui have 210:32
ComputerexI have been trying to get Ubuntu to work since yesterday you know ;)10:32
ubuntuanyways play with them10:32
magneticubuntuubuntu, how to manually do it please? synaptic cant find it10:32
ubuntusee if u get anything10:32
Jefferis there a channel with brighter people?10:32
sdfsaedcjhmis there a problem with the ubuntu installer?10:32
seb64I use ubuntu am64 and i have set up libdvdcss2 but I can't read dvd movies10:33
StoneNoteComputerex, ok, so it's the CD.  are you sure you didn't burn it as a data disk instead of as a boot image ?10:33
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ComputerexStoneNote: I have to say, Uh oh...10:33
ubuntumagneticubuntu:  ok use dpkg10:33
ComputerexThats might be the problem...10:33
lupine_85 magneticubuntu: apt-get remove <package>10:33
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magneticubuntuthx10:34
sdfsaedcjhmis there a problem with the ubuntu installer?10:34
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StoneNoteComputerex, I've done to. so has everyone else here so don't let them tell you otherwise10:34
ubuntumagneticubuntu:  dpkg -r package name10:34
StoneNotetoo^10:34
sdfsaedcjhmi tried installing with it and didnt work10:34
lupine_85add the option "--purge" to get rid of the config files as well10:34
ComputerexBut, the package is an ISO...10:34
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ComputerexDont you need an IMG to boot at startup?10:34
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ComputerexI am using The command line tool, "CreateCD"10:34
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StoneNoteComputerex, which means you have a data disk with a file called whatever.ISO burned to the CD.  You need to burn the image itself to the CD so it is bootable10:35
Jefferdoes anyone know how to disable the aic7xxx module from the kernel boot command line when booting from CD?10:35
Larynxthis is outrageous10:35
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StoneNoteComputerex, never burned a cd that way.  gnomebaker (which I prefer) and K3b both have the ability to burn images.  apt-get install gnomebaker10:35
judI was wondering if anyone has any experience in here getting broadcom wireless cards to work with ubuntu?10:36
magneticubuntuGuys please help with this:10:36
ComputerexAlright. Thanks. Will try to get gnomebaker. Is this possible with NERO?10:36
magneticubuntumagnetic@magnetic-desktop:~/Archives$ sudo depmod -a10:36
magneticubuntuWARNING: Loop detected: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/volatile/new_ath_hal.ko which needs new_ath_hal.ko again!10:36
magneticubuntuWARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/volatile/new_ath_hal.ko ignored, due to loop10:36
magneticubuntuWARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/madwifi-ng/new_ath_rate_sample.ko ignored, due to loop10:36
magneticubuntuWARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/madwifi-ng/new_ath_pci.ko ignored, due to loop10:36
magneticubuntu'10:36
jrib!paste > magneticubuntu10:36
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StoneNoteComputerex, sure, but I've only used that on Windows machines. yes, Nero has that ability10:36
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lupine_85jud: you can use ndiswrapper or the native bcm43xx driver10:37
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santa99Jeffer, thought you were searching for some brighter people10:37
JairunCalothwell, I got sound back!10:37
ComputerexStoneNote:Thanks for your help. Will try to burn that Image now.10:37
ubuntuFirstStrike:  hello sir10:37
magneticubuntusorry for the flood guys can you plz look at that and how to remove the madwifi crap10:37
JairunCalothhowever wine is still crashing X10:37
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StoneNoteComputerex, your welcome. good luck10:37
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lupine_85see www.ubuntuforums.org - the "Wireless Network" section10:37
wweaselHey guys. I've added some fonts to ~/.fonts but they don't come up under "xlsfonts". Could anyone explain why, and how to make them?10:37
JairunCalothand winecfg is giving me this lovely little error10:37
mikeGrMy problem: i installed new initram-tools and afterwards my computer stops booting after grub, how can i rebuild the ramdisk with a liveCD?10:37
JairunCalothALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory10:38
FirstStrikeubuntu: hi10:38
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Jack_Sparrow!fonts10:38
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto10:38
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer10:38
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ocjeunessebonjour10:39
Larynxhola10:39
IceToxI'm able to set my screen resolution to 1600x1024, while using xorg, I'm only able to set 1280x1024. Is there a common error that makes this issue? Trying to set a higher resolution only causes xorg to crash. It's the same computer as I had windows on.10:39
Larynxhizbollah10:39
redsoxfan90https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 how do i know what linux i have10:39
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ocjeunessequi parle francais10:39
Icaremoi10:40
wweaselJack_Sparrow: I don't need font installation basics. This isn't a basic question.10:40
Icaremais tu as un channel francais10:40
Icarefais un /join #ubuntu-fr10:40
dyn-afkIceTox I think the correct resolution would be 1600x1200 and not 1600x102410:40
ocjeunesseah mais je fais comment?10:40
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mikeGrMy problem: i installed new initram-tools and afterwards my computer stops booting after grub, how can i rebuild the ramdisk with a liveCD?10:40
ocjeunessemerci10:40
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IceToxdyn-afk, offcourse, but do you know why it's bugging? :|10:41
dyn-afknope10:41
dyn-afkwhat videocard do you have?10:41
IceToxtwo secs10:41
mr_claushi, i tried a lot now and cannot find the problem of my fontserver, if i use fslsfonts -server myip:7100 i get the fonts, if i use xset fp+ tcp/myip:7100 i get an error "bad font path element"10:41
mr_clausi reduced the catalogue to only one path and thats working10:42
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mr_clausi changed the fonts and fslsfonts is always working but not the xset fp+10:42
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Mucukwww.radyosanal.com10:42
ubuntudoes ubuntu have skype version?10:43
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ubuntu!skype10:43
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto10:43
sphivowweasel: Use fc-list to list installed fontconfig fonts, xlsfonts lists fonts available to the (old) X core font system.10:43
Larynxit is now time, my dear friends, to once again kick windoze to the asshole of hell10:43
Mucuk!radyosanal10:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radyosanal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:43
sphivowweasel: You may have to fc-cache to update it.10:43
IceToxdyn-afk, nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT10:43
seb64is anyone use ubuntu amd 6410:43
seb64?10:43
dyn-afkIceTox did you install the nvidia drivers ?10:43
killownhow I desable services in ubuntu?10:44
ubuntugotta love the ubotu  bot :)10:44
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IceToxnomego, I guess I didn't dyn-afk, but the conf finds the graphical card. that isn't enough?10:44
ubuntukillown: use rcconf10:44
IceToxbah10:44
killownok10:44
IceTox*no10:44
dyn-afkmaybe not IceTox10:44
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Ackeubu_how do i regenerate my gnome menu??`its broken. it blinks and dissapears10:44
spcanyone here use xampp?10:45
Ackeubu_only hte Applications menu is broken10:45
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IceToxok, I'll try that dyn-afk :)10:45
spcor comfortable with mysql on ubuntu?10:45
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dyn-afkthen try to set the correct resolution in your xorg.conf (which you can find in /etc/X11 )10:45
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ToomToomChecKubuntu i didnt manage to make the digital output work ...10:45
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zartchehello10:46
silentjHello, I have a question, I have Synaptic running ( from the add / remove programs in the applications launcher) I cued like 400 files for install and now I want to like pause some of them and remove a few because its saying its gonna take me like 2 days to download haha, is there a way to pause or delete cued downloads I dont want anymore???10:46
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ubuntuToomToomChecK:  then try alsaconf10:47
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Mucuk!webmaster10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about webmaster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
dyn-afksilentj just cancel everything10:47
ubuntusilentj: save the listing10:47
Mucuk!sikitutun10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sikitutun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
dyn-afkafter that you can try selecting the ones you want in synaptics10:47
dyn-afkproviding it didn't install some stuff already10:48
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ToomToomChecKubuntu does'nt exist alsaconf10:48
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eternalswdhow do I compile java with the javac command in Ubuntu?10:48
eternalswdor is there a different method?10:49
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seb64WHAIT IS THE DIFFENRECE BETWWEN LIBDVDCSS AND LIBDVDCSS2?10:49
e-typeevenin all10:49
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e-typeseb64: weuw, loud!10:49
raichhey, big problem, everytime i logon my dapper, the keyboard leyout is all screwed up... the "e" key prints funny symbols and "backspace" doesnt do its work... it rather prints another strange character. help please?10:49
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ubuntuToomToomChecK: yes i had to download it10:49
ubuntuToomToomChecK:  no idea then10:50
ubuntusorry10:50
hoxzerseb64: version I think...10:50
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xangeI have a find state - find $PWD -type f -name index.html - now how would I make it exclude files that have a parent folder of _*10:50
seb64LIBDVDCSS : i need version 1 or 2 in order to read dvd ?10:50
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aLPHa_LeaK n810:50
hoxzerseb64: install 210:50
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noorcan i do linux+ certification on linux, or i have to install some redhat based distribution > thank you guys for any help :)10:51
silentjubuntu how do I save the listing?10:51
seb64i have version 2 but it doesn't work10:51
ubuntusilentj:  which settings?10:51
ubuntuoops10:51
ubuntusilentj:  do this10:51
raichhey, big problem, everytime i logon my dapper, the keyboard layout is all screwed up... the "e" key prints funny symbols and "backspace" doesnt do its work... it rather prints another strange character. help please?10:51
ubuntusilentj: in synatpic , see the 1st button on the toolbar?10:52
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noor<noor> can i do linux+ certification on linux, or i have to install some redhat based distribution > thank you guys for any help :)10:52
ubuntusilentj:  it is called file?10:53
eternalswdxange, you could try using sed to discard all the ones with an underscore at the given position, not sure about using find itself10:53
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ubuntuclik on file , then choose save marked settings10:53
ubuntuok?10:53
ubuntuhope that helps10:53
ubuntugood luck10:54
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raichsoneoneeeeeeee help please??10:54
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ubuntuwell gtg10:54
ubuntulater guys10:54
ubuntutc all10:54
ubuntuhave fun10:54
seb64is anyone to help me about libdvdcss2? Pm me please10:54
e-typexange: there quite some solutions, all of which will require you to learn some awk or regexpressions ;)10:55
eternalswdraich, have you tried going to the Keyboard dialogue under System -> Preferences?10:55
xangee-type: I know regex, not awk though10:55
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raichyes, everytme i login i have tto go there to re-chosose my layout (spanish)10:55
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^sunny^hello10:56
raichchoose*10:56
^sunny^I just compiled the kernel vmlinuz-2.6.17.11-grsec10:56
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eternalswdraich, so it's a problem with it not remembering your preference then?10:56
raichnope10:56
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^sunny^where do I find the initrd.img for it ?10:56
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^sunny^I just compiled the kernel vmlinuz-2.6.17.11-grsec ... where do I find the initrd.img for it ??10:57
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lupine_85^sunny^: could be it doesn't need one10:58
erUSUL^sunny^: you have to create it yourself. mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17.11-grsec 2.6.17.11-grsec10:59
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lupine_85depends on what you chose to compile in / as a module10:59
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^sunny^erUSUL, -bash: mkinitrd: command not found11:00
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QQQOmniD"'GSnes9x' is not available in any software channel. The application might not support your system architecture." THIS IS NOT TRUE11:01
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^sunny^erUSUL or lupine_85 can you help me ?11:01
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zeeneohey, i want to create a little visual app in ubuntu/gnome, is there a little package that comes with this to do that?11:02
lampshadeWhy does nothing stay copied once I close a program?  Is copy/paste done on a by program basis?11:02
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eternalswdraich, was your keyboard working correctly in the past or has it never worked correctly?11:03
erUSUL^sunny^: i'm trying to figure out which package installs mkinitrd11:03
fallingdutchhow do i set up the basic settings within ubuntu?11:03
erUSUL^sunny^: ;)11:03
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raichit's working like this since... day before yesterday11:03
e-typefallingdutch: which settings?11:03
raichno11:03
raichyesterday11:03
QQQOmniDfallingdutch: Go up to system and browse from there. It's in the top left.11:03
^sunny^erUSUL, ok I'm waiting :)11:03
fallingdutche-type, the one you enter during installation11:03
raichyesterday i installed klx/Compiz, skype, Mplayer and can't remembeer what else...11:04
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raichxgl/Compiz*11:04
e-typezeeneo: you want what? an integrated development environment with a visual editor?11:04
zeeneon/m i got it11:04
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fallingdutchQQQOmniD, i have installed my system using debootstrap and searching for a base-config like script/prog11:04
zeeneoit was under programming in add/remove applications :P11:04
zeeneocheers11:04
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zeeneo'glade' i think it was btw11:04
e-typezeeneo: that would be a gui designer, yes11:04
erUSUL^sunny^: install initrd-tools11:04
^sunny^erUSUL, thanks, I'll try it :)11:05
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rixth_Linux king 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux11:05
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nixternalwhy the version request?11:05
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e-typefallingdutch: baseconfig is not in ubuntu...11:06
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erUSULlampshade: yes11:06
fallingdutche-type, i know, looking for anything similar11:06
e-typefallingdutch: think your stuff is scattered all over /etc/ ...11:06
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^sunny^erUSUL, root@hackedbox:/boot# mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17.11-grsec 2.6.17.11-grsec11:07
^sunny^find: /lib/modules/2.6.17.11-grsec/kernel/drivers: No such file or directory11:07
^sunny^find: /lib/modules/2.6.17.11-grsec/kernel/drivers: No such file or directory11:07
e-typefallingdutch: how about the gui configuration apps in the gnome menu?11:07
fallingdutche-type, moop, wrong answer please try again ;)11:07
lampshadeerUSUL: ways around this? without too much hassle?  That is to have a nice clipboard?  Is there one in the repos?11:07
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fallingdutche-type, the probem is getting gnome and so on running ;)11:07
HoORnethi , sorry I speak bad english...  I would like to know if you can say to me where I can change colors of the text of loading after grub menu. ( I had remove usplash ) i just want to change color of text but i don't find where i can do it. you understend me ? :)11:07
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e-typefallingdutch: ??? so where do you think ubuntu saves your system-wide config???11:07
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fallingdutche-type, sure in /etc, but i don't want to edit all the files by hand ... it's annoying11:08
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raichhey, big problem, everytime i logon my dapper, the keyboard layout is all screwed up... the "e" key prints funny symbols and "backspace" doesnt do its work... it rather prints another strange character. help please?11:08
erUSULlampshade: do not close the program from you are copying ;)11:08
e-typefallingdutch: yeah, I get it ;) ... gnome not running is prolly X not running?11:08
lampshadethat's the worst thing I've ever heard haha  this sucks  there has to be something better11:08
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^sunny^erUSUL, it errors :|11:08
^sunny^<^sunny^> find: /lib/modules/2.6.17.11-grsec/kernel/drivers: No such file or directory11:08
^sunny^<^sunny^> find: /lib/modules/2.6.17.11-grsec/kernel/drivers: No such file or directory11:08
Gyuszkraich, try ctrl+alt+f1 (terminal tty1), login, works there?11:09
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ryanakcaGyuszk: please do not ctcp-version people/channels11:09
Gyuszkafter check /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the keyboard section, check there your layout11:09
fallingdutche-type, Just installed ubuntu-base in an encrypted hd ... and had some problems will try playing with the /etc ... files :/11:09
fallingdutche-type, thanks anyway11:09
Gyuszkryanakca, ok11:09
erUSUL^sunny^: have you run 'make modules_install' ?? is your kernel named as you said?11:09
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e-typefallingdutch: apparently you can install the debian base-config11:09
e-typefallingdutch: google for it ;)11:10
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raichGyuszk: ok. wait....11:10
^sunny^erUSUL, yes, it's vmlinuz-2.6.17.11-grsec11:10
HoORnetyou see me ? or i speak in the win ?11:10
Gyuszkafter all raich, check yout layout in gnome (system, settings, keyboard(11:10
wolfmanzanyone here using TeamSpeak with the ALSA-OSS wrapper?11:10
Gyuszk)11:10
raichGyuszk: that's where i have to go everytime i login to re-choose my layout11:10
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richardhey11:11
raichi mean, it remmembers the layout but still...11:11
Gyuszkthen somethings changes your layout. make a new user and login with it (use adduser, man adduser)11:11
richardwhats the best way to tune my internet connection with Ubuntu?11:11
Gyuszkif it works with it, maybe your ~/.xxx settings are bad11:11
raichhmm okey wait11:11
Althulasis there ppc irc channel for ubuntu ?11:11
erUSUL^sunny^: and the 'make modules_install' ?? check in /lib/modules/ there you must have a directory names after your kernel11:11
raichdamn, now xgl hanged up...11:11
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eternalswdraich, since you installed compiz stuff, you might want to look in your xorg.conf file and make sure Option "XkbLayout" is set to "es"11:11
fallingdutche-type, if i ask apt-get to install base-config it wants to remove apt, libc and stuff like that ... sounds not very nice to me ;)11:12
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richardi find  that my speed keeps dropping11:12
wweaselWhere is my XF86Config file located?11:12
e-typefallingdutch: lol, no, indeed not :)11:12
^sunny^erUSUL, I just checked and /lib/modules/2.6.17.11-grsec/kernel directory is empty !11:12
Gyuszk/etc/X11/xorg.conf wweasel11:12
raichasdfsd11:12
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fallingdutche-type, so i will go on with playing with /etc/<wahtever>11:13
^sunny^erUSUL, what did I do wrong ?11:13
eternalswdanyone know how to compile java on Ubuntu dapper?11:13
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erUSUL^sunny^: i do not know. what guide did you followed to compile the kernel?11:13
^sunny^the grsecurity guide11:14
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erUSUL!java > eternalswd11:14
raichokey. got to restart gnome...11:14
erUSUL^sunny^: url?11:14
eternalswdrather I should say .java files and not java itself11:14
e-typefallingdutch: what's the stuff you're looking for? if "gnome" is not running, it is almost certainly an X error11:14
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^sunny^erUSUL, http://grsecurity.net/quickstart.pdf11:15
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raichin xorg-conf there is no section named keybboard, only one that says "InputDevice" and below :"Generic Keyboard"11:15
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e-typeraich: that's the section which should hold yr spanish layout ;)11:15
raichOption"XkbLayout""us"11:16
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raichi change us to es rite?11:16
eternalswdyes11:16
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fallingdutche-type, i was reading an howto about how to install ubuntu on a fake-raid, i changed some of the informations to be able to install ubuntu on a encrypted root-device. Now the howto says to execute the base-config at the end to set up all the things needed, i just want to know how i can set up these basic settings. a list of them would help, too so i wont forget some11:16
eternalswdthen restart X11:16
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ossiehi guys i have screwed my 64 bit ubuntu up a bit dapper drake, is there any way of restoring to defualt configuration ????11:16
qatsihello !...well, while following the instructions at http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/ for getting aiglx to work, i get an error message telling me that gdm and x cant start because they cant find /usr/bin/Xorg-air :0, but, the things is that the HOWTO dosnt ever describe what to put in there...so, can anyone help me ???11:16
e-typefallingdutch: well, you've not quite taken the most simple use case, have you?11:17
raichokey, now what?11:17
raichrestart?11:17
erUSUL^sunny^: you used this to install the kernel 'make dep bzImage modules modules_install install', didn't you?11:17
^sunny^erUSUL, yes I did11:17
fallingdutche-type, not realy, no11:17
qatsianyone here using aixgl ?11:17
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e-typeraich: '$ invoke-rc.d gdm restart'11:17
__davidqatsi, try sudo apt get install xserver-xorg-air-core11:18
qatsiuhmm, thank you _david, ill try that :)11:18
erUSUL^sunny^: run again make modules && sudo make modules_install11:18
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__davidqatsi, that installs Xorg-air11:18
hollerdoes anybody know python?11:18
e-typefallingdutch: I don't think the installer sets that much stuff though... locale, keymap, some X options11:18
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whazillawhen i login into terminal ubuntu says u have new mail ... how does one check that from terminal ? ^^11:18
qatsi_david are you using aiglx ?11:18
ossiehi guys i have screwed my 64 bit ubuntu up a bit dapper drake, is there any way of restoring to defualt configuration ????, i always manage to screw up my box I need a feature to restore to a stnadard config11:18
e-typeholler: sure it's a programming language11:18
emergeDoes anybody know, are there some problems with installing ubuntu on CoreDuo CPUs?11:19
__davidqatsi, I am not, but its due to an elusive bug that I have yet to solve11:19
fallingdutche-type, hostname, hosts, resolv, apt/sources.lst, network-setup, ....11:19
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_azraelemerge: I've got a core duo, haven't noticed any issues.11:19
anthonyheya I'm using gEdit to edit a simple .txt file, and it keeps on saying that it cannot create a back-up of the original file, incase it screws up.  I'm editing the .txt on a FAT32 partition mounted in the my Home dir (/home/anthony/shared).  if I mark it for removal in synaptic ti also marks something called "gedit - ubtuntu desktop" for removal.  if I remove this along with gedit, and the ovbiously reinstall gedit, will it11:19
anthony screw everything up?11:19
raichokey, nothing happens11:19
^sunny^erUSUL, gotta go, I'll try that, thank you ! ;)11:19
hollere-type: yes, i'm wondering if anybody knows the python command to spit out the functions of a class..11:19
e-typewhazilla: using a cli mail client or an editor to /var/spool/mail/$username11:20
__davidanthony, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gedit11:20
e-typeholler: not the right place ;)11:20
eternalswdraich, it's still broken after doing that?11:20
raichyes11:20
emerge_azrael:thank's =) I want to purchase a Inspiron6400 with such processor11:20
_azraelemerge: However, I reccomend that you install the -686-SMP kernel after you install ubuntu, then reboot. This gives you full dual core utilization.11:20
holleri know not the right place...but..11:20
hollerahh...beat me to it...=P11:20
anthony__david, sweet will do11:20
__davidand also try sudo apt-get install -f11:20
qatsidarn, x isnt starting :s11:20
e-typefallingdutch: hostname in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts11:20
__davidanthony, the second fixes broken dependencies11:20
hollerbut #python not open...figure if anybody in #ubuntu would happen to know...cant seem to find it in google...11:20
erUSULossie: backups ;) seriusly you should think about making a partimage of a pristine install. sudo apt-get install partimage11:20
hollerahh well...was worth a shot...11:20
e-typefallingdutch: don't you know all those, they're pretty obvious ;)11:21
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ossiecheers erUSUL11:21
Jack_Sparrow!backup11:21
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi11:21
__davidanthony, don't forget to update && upgrade as well11:21
raicheternalswd: someone said something about looking some option in xorg.conf that had something to do with compiz?11:21
ossieill do that next timei install, im sick of reinstalling11:21
anthony__david, it says it can't find it "... it cannot be down loaded"11:21
fallingdutche-type, sure i do know them, but i guess i will forget one, that realy needs to be set :)11:21
qatsianyone knows a good guide or howto for installing aiglx ?11:21
ossieerUSUL, how do i use partinstall??11:21
__davidanthony, your sources.list is screwed up11:22
anthony__david, sorry this is a bit much for me!  I'm new to all this malarky11:22
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erUSULqatsi: i found this but never tried11:22
anthonyhow do I fix it?11:22
rolerwhat is the file size limit in ext3?11:22
__davidanthony, Alright.  Try this:11:22
Jack_Sparrow!source-o-matic11:22
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:22
qatsierUSUL: which one ?11:22
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erUSULqatsi: i found this but never tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglxhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx11:22
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__davidanthony, sources.list is the list of places ubuntu looks for applications.  Your sources don't have all the nessecary packages11:23
ossieerUSUL, my main prob at the moment is that apache2 wont start now, when i do /etc/init.d/apache2 start nothing at all happens11:23
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qatsierUSUL: thank you :) thats the one im using, but its not helping much hehe :)11:23
e-typefallingdutch: it will come and give you an error :)11:23
__davidin a terminal, run this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:23
ossiei have removed and reinstalled and now its like it is there but dead11:23
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__davidanthony, tell me when you have it open11:23
e-typeholler: how about docs.python.org/lib/ ?11:23
__david!pastebin > __david11:23
gimmulf_4how do i reload my default keyboard settings, some keys has stopped working11:23
e-typeossie: that's a configfile, not an excutable11:24
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anthony__david, have what open sorry? :(11:24
gimmulf_dont want to restart x11:24
fallingdutche-type, like the one "you have forgotten to load a module onto your initial ramdisk ... sorry but can't encrypt your harddisk :P"11:24
__davidin a terminal, run this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:24
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__davidanthonyin a terminal, run this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:24
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bashteHow can i password-encrypt a tarfile?11:24
anthony__david, okay done that11:24
erUSULossie: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2 (use apache if you instaled apache 1)11:24
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e-typefallingdutch: lol, with an english accent prolly11:24
ossiee-type, anyideas why i cant start apache2 or how i can totaly remove and reinstall i have tried the --purge option in apt11:24
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ossiecheers erUSUL illtry that now11:25
gimmulf_how do i reload my default keyboard settings+ suddenly it just changed, dont want to restart x11:25
AnubuntuCan anyone tell me how to disable the select copying?11:25
e-typeossie: use invoke-rc.d to call init scripts (like the one you pointed at)11:25
__davidanthony, go to the pastebin11:25
e-typeossie: second detail is that apache is hard to configure11:25
Anubuntulike, when it copies the text that I select.11:25
__david!pastebin > anthony11:25
e-typeossie: or hard to configure well11:25
__davidanthony, copy that text into your sources.list11:25
eternalswdraich, which Ubuntu are you using?11:25
e-typegimmulf_: how did you change it?11:26
nahojWOW! Finally got my Intel Soundcard to work in ubuntu!! After 3 weeks.....11:26
__davidanthony, at the bottom.  We are just adding another (US-based) mirror of the files.  Tell me when you have saved your new, lengthened sources.list11:26
anthony__david, ok I copied !pastebin > anthony into the bottom of the sources.list11:26
e-typegimmulf_: setxkbmap is the X tool, gnome has it's own keyboard config tool11:26
anthony__david, saved it :)11:26
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gimmulf_e-type:  that solved it :)11:26
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gimmulf_e-type:  seems to be when im running vmware sometimes11:26
__davidanthony, No, not that.  Delete that.  Those were directions on how to access the pastebin'd file11:26
sharperguyHi, im customising the ubuntu cd and i need someone who knows what lagnauge packs i need for each laguage (ie language-pack-gnome-XX etc)11:27
__davidanthony, Don't worry :) We're almost done11:27
anthonyhaha11:27
e-typegimmulf_: what solved it?11:27
ossiee-type, it was tunnign but i was having problems with php, now it wont run at all11:27
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anthony__david, haha this is mad.11:27
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gimmulf_e-type:  setxkbmap11:27
__davidanthony, go to this link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2200211:27
anthony__david, ok I've deleted those11:27
raichnothing...........11:27
raichhelp please?!11:27
e-typeossie: get the default config back, make a backup and then start messing ;)11:27
eternalswdI have Sun java installed but when I run javac, it says command not found, what do I do to remedy this?11:27
eternalswdraich, which Ubuntu are you using?11:27
raichdapper11:28
eternalswdare there any gnome updates?11:28
__davidanthony, copy the browned-out lines into sources.list  They are the same format, correct?  As in, they look similar11:28
ossiee-type so what do i do to get back defualt, when i run partimage it complains "Error: sizeof(DWORD) != 4 (8)11:28
ossieThis version has been compiled with an uncompatible version of gcc."11:28
raicheternalswd: that was for me?11:28
raichok.. wait =S11:28
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anthony__david, yes they look similar11:28
ossiee-type, i guess that mean my OS is screwed?11:28
__davidanthony, did you save it?11:29
raicheternalswd: nope11:29
anthony__david, I'm coping those brown lines into sources.list and saving11:29
e-typeossie: my answer related to apache, has nothing to do with partimage, and even less with you OS11:29
__davidanthony, now close it and run this command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade11:29
bashteHow can i stress my system to test it?11:30
_azraelossie: I didn't see your earlier problem, but the error you just complained about sounds like you're trying to run a 32-bit binary against a 64-bit library11:30
anthony__david, okies it's working11:30
ossiei think i might have screwed up by adding loads of repositorys to my source.list that are not compaitble with 64bit, u think this could be the case e-type11:30
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ossiecheers _azrael11:30
eternalswdraich, do the keys in question work in any programs or is it a complete system-wide problem?11:30
anthony__david, thanks for helping btw11:30
__davidanthony, so it seems happy?  Text is scrolling by and it isn't saying anything about malformed urls, et al.11:30
__davidanthony, no problemo!  Sorry it was such a tough fix11:30
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richardYAY11:31
abowhat unix/linux command would give me the total size of a group of files, I was thinking of du *.jpg.. but it's giving the size of each file alone11:31
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e-typeossie: you're mixing up different problems. can't help you like this. in 3 sentences you gave 5 problems: apache, partimage, os, apt-sources and 32/64-bit11:31
raichhmm they seeem more screwed up in aMSN, but numlock and alt+fx aren't working either11:31
__davidanthony, make sure it works.  I have a feeling that was your problem, but I never know for sure until something _works_11:31
raicheternalswd: hmm they seeem more screwed up in aMSN, but numlock and alt+fx aren't working either11:31
anthony__david, "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! unace"11:31
richardGuys if your internet connection is slower than it should be OR drops off after awhile then you need this11:31
richardhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18643011:31
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richardfollowing that has DOUBLED my internet connection download speed11:32
__davidanthony, can you add the line or 2 following that one?11:32
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ossieok sorry e-type , i think its time for a reinstall11:32
finalbetaAnyone knows file recovery software for linux? Like when you deleted a file (from trash even), to recover them.11:32
e-typeabo: man du -> du has a sum option: -c11:32
eternalswdraich, can you post what is output in a terminal when pressing those keys?11:32
anthony__david, "Install packages without verification? y/n"11:32
raichalt+f1 = 'P' alt+f2 = R11:32
aboe-type11:32
__davidanthony, does it have a URL of the source anywhere?11:32
raichan so on until alt + f5 = 3:~11:32
aboe-type, thanks11:32
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raichor something like that11:32
e-typeabo: np, but try to read manpages ;)11:33
__davidanthony, a url is like a website address: http://something.someone.somewhere11:33
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raichrichard: that tip only works with Davicom ethernets?11:33
erUSULfinalbeta: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/21/155823011:33
__davidanthony, in your sources.list file, where you added those 6 repositories, they are just these:11:34
richardnope i dont have Davicom11:34
__daviddeb http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse11:34
__daviddeb-src http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse11:34
__daviddeb http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted11:34
__daviddeb-src http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted11:34
__daviddeb http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted11:34
anthony__david, haha I know what a URL is :P  it has a list with GET commands in front, but nothing is very obvious11:34
__daviddeb-src http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted11:34
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finalbetaerUSUL, thnx11:34
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raichrichard: ok, got to try that.11:34
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eternalswdraich, does xev give any sensible output for those?11:34
__davidanthony, those were the only lines you added, right?11:34
anthonyone sec11:34
raicheternalswd: sorry, xev?11:34
__davidif so, then you can install without verification11:34
richardseriously11:34
erUSUL__david: use a pastebin11:34
richardit worked for me11:34
qatsiwhy is ubuntu+1 so quiet?11:35
__daviderUSUL, I tried, but I am not sure he copied the right lines11:35
D0wnCan anybody help me out with this? My computer running Ubuntu is only playing sound/audio in certain programs.11:35
eternalswdraich, xev is a program for checking mouse and keyboard output11:35
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e-typeD0wn: set all applications to use the same driver (also/oss/esd)11:36
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wweaselI am trying to make the fonts in my ~/.fonts folder available to X, following this page: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/Font-HOWTO/html/Font-HOWTO/x169.html - It reads like hell and I am confused. Could someone knowledgeable help me?11:36
anthony__david, yes they are the same11:36
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ubuntu_How i check witch xorg version i have?11:36
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__davidanthony, then you can install without verification safely11:36
D0wnWhere would I do that at?11:36
raicheternalswd: how to use it? this funny window shows up and lots of output in cl11:36
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anthony__david, working11:36
richardYAY - im maxing my connection for the first time since installing Ubuntu!!!!!11:36
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monteiroi've upgraded to the last alsa-driver, but i don't have sound in my microphone, my codec is Generic 14f1 ID 5047 (hda-intel), any idea?11:37
richardthat fix kicks ass11:37
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e-typemonteiro: have you tried your different mic channels?11:37
eternalswdraich, just press the key combinations and you should get output in the terminal like when I press a, it will have some output like XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (61) "a"11:38
monteiroe-type : how i trie that ?11:38
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e-typemonteiro: use the gnome mixer app11:38
raicheternalswd: okey wait11:38
e-typelaters all, naptime for me11:38
monteiroe-type : its all set to 100%, capture 100% line-in off11:39
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D0wne-type: Where would I be able to set all applications to use the same driver?11:39
anthony__david, my god this internet connection is USELESS at the moment. whilst we're waiting, is this right? I do not have the packages necessary to reinstall gEdit (which is odd because it was installed when I loaded OS) so we needed to DL them.  but the OS doesn't know where it is, so we gave it more places to searcg by adding to the sources.list?11:39
__davidanthony, yes11:39
anthony__david, sweet.  ok it's down that now11:39
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__davidanthony, I had the same problem earlier this week.  ubuntu couldn't find several packages...so, I looked up some US-continental mirror servers and added those11:40
__davidanthony, then it all worked like a charm (for me)11:40
aboI have installed, ubuntu 6.06, and then installed the kde desktop, then I installed eclipse and it's using gtk, how should I install eclipse to use motif?11:40
monteiroanyone that uses hda-intel and has a laptop, anyone ?11:40
anthony__david, hehe  this is the second install of ubuntu I've done: I messed up the first with a webcam..... what do we do now?11:40
monteiroanyone that uses hda-intel sound card and has a laptop, anyone ?11:40
anthony__david, do I run the first command you gave me?11:40
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__davidanthony, so, you ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?11:41
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__davidanthony, try gedit now11:41
raicheternalswd: http://pastebin.com/77924311:41
anthony__david, have done: it's working11:41
anthony__david, ok done11:41
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__davidanthony, now, gedit should work11:42
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DaveKIm finding that quite often apps cant be run properly without using sudo. such as gimp cant open images or xsane cant open the scanner drivers is there a fix for this or a solution11:42
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wweaselI am trying to make the fonts in my ~/.fonts folder available to X, following this page: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/Font-HOWTO/html/Font-HOWTO/x169.html - It reads like hell and I am confused. Could someone knowledgeable help me?11:42
anthony__david, it still cannot be downloaded., I've got to get something to eat.  I'll be back in half an hour if you're still around.  thanks for your help dude :)11:43
ossiecan anyone tell me hwat is the correct way to use partimage11:43
ossie?11:43
pirx67Hi, I'd like to install the gstreamer-ugly plugins. But they depend on libid3tag0 which isn't in the Ubuntu repositories. Anybody here that may give me a hint where to find this library?11:43
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__davidanthony, yep, anytime11:43
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__davidanthony, sorry it didn't work though11:43
jrib!info libid3tag011:43
ubotulibid3tag0: ID3 tag reading library from the MAD project. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-8 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 128 kB11:43
darkowlcan someone read me the command for add printer wizard ?11:43
jribpirx67: are you using dapper?11:43
ossiecan i restore my system if i dont already have a backup ?? using partimage?11:44
jribdarkowl: gnome-cups-add11:44
pirx67Im using 6.06-LTS11:44
wifiworksim sick of the ubunt wifi driver zd1211!11:44
wifiworksanyone how do i use the windows driver?11:44
jribpirx67: libid3tag0 is in dapper's main repository.  Can you check if you have that enabled?  Or post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you are unsure?11:44
fyrestrtrpirx67: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install libid3tag011:44
darkowl<jrib> tnx11:45
eternalswdraich, which key combination did you press?11:45
wifiworksndiswrapper?11:45
wifiworksor something like that11:45
raichalt+f111:45
raichthen escape11:45
whazillasoftware index broken ... what now ?11:45
raichthen alt+f411:45
silentjHello all, I have a question. I was running synaptic for about 2 hours and I downloaded about 40 of 400 files, the thing is my internet died before they could all finish. and I dont think that the files that were finished installed... is there a way to find out??11:45
wifiworksdisasm: hey disasm you around?11:45
pontifexsilentj: it will carry on where it left off if you start again11:45
fyrestrtrsilentj: just install the same packages again, it will continue where it left off.11:45
lamegosilentj, just rerun the upgrade11:45
pirx67I' have a lot of repositories enabled. I'll have a look into sources.list11:45
wifiworksdisasm: I got the linux driver going form source for that zs1211 dongal11:46
wifiworksthe it stop working11:46
wweaselCan anyone here help me make the fonts in ~/.fonts available to X?11:46
fyrestrtrwifiworks: did you upgrade your kernel?11:46
pirx67# deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted11:46
whazillasynaptec says index broken ... what now ?11:46
jribpirx67: seems to be commented11:46
wifiworksfyrestrtr: I have the latest kerrnel ... well i installed ubuntu from that new 6.06.1 cd11:47
pirx67This line is commented out in sources.list11:47
silentjlamego, I just want it to install the files that were already finished11:47
fyrestrtrwifiworks: I meant to ask, did you upgrade the kernel since the dongle was last working.11:47
pirx67But I believed the DVD is enough (or the same source)11:47
wifiworksfyrestrtr: no11:47
fyrestrtr!easysource > pirx6711:47
jribpirx67: yep, go ahead and remove the #, then run the command 'sudo apt-get update'11:47
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eternalswdraich, okay, what behavior do you normally expect when pressing alt+f1?11:48
lamegosilentj, if the files were already downloaded they will be used from the local cache11:48
raich"applications" menu open?!11:48
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lamegoeternalswd, CTRL-ALT-F1, a text console11:48
pirx67jrib: I'll try that to do via synaptic11:48
wifiworksfyrestrtr: whats the thing you use to wrap win32 drivers?11:48
raichwhen i login, it doesn't work, doesn't do anything11:48
silentjlamego , where do i find the local cashe? Will I be able to install them manually from there?11:48
fyrestrtrwifiworks: tin foil before I throw them in the can.11:48
fyrestrtrwifiworks: ndiswrapper :)11:48
ossieok guys, cananyone tell me how to upgrade a 32 bit version ofd dapper 6.0.6 to 64 bit???11:48
lamegosilentj, yes11:48
wifiworksok lol11:48
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raichbut of course, i have to wait until it is fixed before i get into this chat, other wise we wouldnt be talking.11:48
jribossie: reinstall11:49
lamegobut you should use the usual upgrade instead11:49
fyrestrtrsilentj: just go to synaptic, and re-run the upgrade, you don't need to manually do anything.11:49
ossiejrib, no upgrade path?11:49
raicheternalswd: and i say "wait" because now, even recooshing the same layout in system-preferences-keyboard fixes it11:49
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jribossie: not that I know of11:49
barataAug. 29, 2006, 3:53PM Iran leader challenges authority of U.N. --> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4149760.html11:49
fyrestrtrossie: install a 64 bit kernel, and recompile any binary packages.11:49
lamegosilentj, are you connected to the internet ?11:49
baratawrong news11:49
ossieok cheers jrib11:49
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silentjfyrestrtr thanks11:49
silentjlamego hehe yea11:49
baratashould be "Iran is challenging Israel & America"11:49
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fyrestrtrbarata: #ubuntu-offtopic for that stuff please.11:50
lamegosilentj, so just use the upgrade, it will not start again11:50
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ossiefyrestrtr, how do i recompile binarys??11:50
pirx67jrib: Updating the packet list will take about 10 minutes. Will be back then11:50
jribpirx67: ok11:50
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nossehum?11:51
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jake1i'm curious where is a good printer driver source for Linux11:52
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EVRAMPwine: chdir to /home/evramp/.wine/wineserver-pepa : No such file or directory Registry install failed. coul you help me pls? thanx11:52
jrib!printing > jake111:52
jake1i have a canon Pixma MP160 all in one printer and i want to get it to work on Ubuntu11:53
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Gyurkahurka|nembyez11:53
jake1!printer11:53
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows11:53
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dr_willisjake1,  check out the cups.org page to see if that printer is even supported. a Lot of the Canon Printers are not supported. :(11:53
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lamegoyou can install some canon printers drivers using alien to convert the drivers .rpms11:54
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eternalswdraich, okay, so was alt+f1 working when you tried in xev or was it broken at that point?11:54
DaveK??11:55
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lucilontaneciao11:55
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wifiworks!ndiswrapper11:56
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:56
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jake1lamego: you mean with Windows drivers11:59
jake1?11:59
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jake1you can use Windows drivers with Alien to possible make the canon work?11:59
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lamegojake1, no, i mean some canon drivers are rpm only11:59
jake1oh11:59
lamegolinux drivers11:59
jake1hehe11:59
ravenousanyone having problems with ubuntuforums?12:00
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pianoboy3333how do you start amarok from the terminal?12:00
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lamegoyou type amarok ?12:00
ravenousyup12:00
pianoboy3333lamego: oh.... so my sys is screwed ;)12:00

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