[12:01] <TheHarbinger667> alchamy: nope
[12:01] <Psych0tiC> when I try to access http://localhost it tells me the connection was refused...
[12:01] <TheHarbinger667> alchamy: it doesn't even disassociate from linksys if i look at iwconfig
[12:02] <sverzel> linuchsan, yes.. nice observation about the copying on the same drive though. The NTFS reading seems to hogg CPU
[12:02] <joli> im trying to setup isatap suport, im using the usagi path to get that functionality into the kernel configuration but it dont shows up when i do a make menuconfig
[12:02] <joli> anyone can help?
[12:02] <Computerex> 256RAM is enough to install ubuntu, right?
[12:02] <bruenig> yes
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Minimum
[12:03] <Computerex> I have a crappy computer :( I dont think they even make computers with less then 1 Gig of ram anymore...
[12:03] <sverzel> linuchsan, well I feel better with it being a NTFS driver issue, which it seems to be. Thanks.. I think I know now where to search for a solution
[12:04] <alchamy> TheHarbinger667: the only thing I can think of is to let wpasup do the scanning instead of the card run "sudo gedit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf" and add the following 2 lines in the beginning "ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant" & "ap_scan=2"
[12:04] <jrib> relachs: this seems to affect it: open nautilus, then go to edit > preferences, views, default zoom level
[12:04] <Computerex> You need 256 to install, or 256 to run?
[12:04] <TheHarbinger667> alchamy: :( i used network manager
[12:04] <jrib> relachs: default zoom level for icon view
[12:04] <nozorro> Computerex: with 256 ubuntu will swap quite a bit, but it does run ok
[12:05] <mwe> using dpkg, should you remove an older version of a program before installing a new version?
[12:05] <Psych0tiC> why do I get a "connection refused by host" error when I try and acces localhost ?
[12:05] <nozorro> Computerex: I recently installed with 256 and the weren't any problems
[12:06] <brendonjt> Kia Ora all
[12:06] <relachs> jrib: ah, you are my hero, but i guess you don't know how to set the greater size only for the desktop?
[12:06] <diablo`> whats the file to handle init modules in ubuntu ?
[12:06] <mwe> Psych0tiC: access, how?
[12:06] <Psych0tiC> in firefox I type in http://localhost
[12:06] <Computerex> Good. Thanks. Hope it works... Just have to wait 11 hours and 12 minutes... Getting 30KB/s with a 256KB/s connection
[12:06] <mwe> Psych0tiC: and you have a web server running on localhos?
[12:07] <jrib> relachs: no, not sure about that
[12:07] <Psych0tiC> I installed apache2, I thought it is there by default
[12:07] <TheHarbinger667> alchamy: hmm
[12:07] <nozorro> Computerex: well, you're improving :-)
[12:07] <TheHarbinger667> its broken even in the older kernel
[12:07] <mwe> Psych0tiC: sudo netstat -ntlp will show if it's listining
[12:07] <TheHarbinger667> what does ipw use?
[12:07] <TheHarbinger667> ieee80211, ipw2200, what else...
[12:07] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: I need your help
[12:08] <Psych0tiC> mwe, yes it is listening
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[12:08] <sverzel> linuchsan, thanks for your help - later
[12:08] <ubuuser> HI! Do you know how I find the german channel? I'm new to x-chat.
[12:08] <diseaser> i think thats it.. maybe ieee80211_crypt if you are using ccmp
[12:08] <jrib> !de
[12:08] <mwe> Psych0tiC: on 127.0.0.1?
[12:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:08] <relachs> jrib: anyway, thanks alot
[12:08] <Psych0tiC> mwe,yes
[12:08] <sharperguy> ok, im trying to create a custom ubuntu distro
[12:08] <TheHarbinger667> nah, no CCMP
[12:08] <mwe> Psych0tiC: hmm
[12:08] <sharperguy> but the exract-cd folder isnt there like its meant to be
[12:08] <ubuuser> Thanks, ubotu, and bye all.
[12:08] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: I'm trying to get my ATI TV-Wonder card to work...i found this guide to help me out with it...but there is this one command that it tells me to run that i apparently dont have permission to run even after using sudo?
[12:08] <linuchsan> sverzel:oke
[12:08] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: WEP or TKIP?
[12:08] <mwe> Psych0tiC: is the loopback interface up and no firewall is blocking the access?
[12:09] <TheHarbinger667> WPA21
[12:09] <TheHarbinger667> err
[12:09] <TheHarbinger667> WPA2
[12:09] <TheHarbinger667> TKIP+AES
[12:09] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220027 look at step 4..fxing your tv-tuner card
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: I dont have the time, but it probably cant find it to run it
[12:09] <TheHarbinger667> i mean, i had this working before in linux
[12:09] <diseaser> I think AES = CCMP doesnt it?
[12:09] <Psych0tiC> mwe, there is no firewall, and apache isn't listed among the programs next to the PID
[12:09] <brendonjt> hey all how do i change bitchx default server
[12:09] <Psych0tiC> there's just hpiod, python, cupsd, sshd
[12:09] <mwe> Psych0tiC: you said netstat said it was listening
[12:10] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: can you look at that real quick please?
[12:10] <TheHarbinger667> diseaser: i think ipw uses TKIP over AES actually
[12:10] <TheHarbinger667> either way, i can't even see the AP
[12:10] <Psych0tiC> I thougfht so... but now I see apache isn't listed...
[12:10] <mwe> Psych0tiC: it should be httpd iirc
[12:10] <afields> SOlution to sendmail on Ubuntu Server Dapper -- use: echo "deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted">>/etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install sendmail
[12:10] <Psych0tiC> mwe, how do I set that ?
[12:10] <ladydoor> mwe: what does iirc mean, anyway?
[12:10] <sharperguy> um forgit it actually
[12:10] <TheHarbinger667> if i recall correctly
[12:11] <mwe> Psych0tiC: I mean it should be listed as httpd
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: where on step 4
[12:11] <brendonjt> ladydoor: If I Recall Correctly
[12:11] <Psych0tiC> mwe, but it isn't is there a way to set it ?
[12:11] <mwe> Psych0tiC: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start will start it if it's not running
[12:11] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: the very first thing it says to type in terminal in step 4
[12:11] <mwe> Psych0tiC: set what?
[12:11] <jrib> Psych0tiC, mwe: mine gets listed as apache2 over here, fwiw
[12:11] <Psych0tiC> mwe, nvm
[12:11] <mwe> jrib: ok
[12:11] <alchamy> TheHarbinger667: have you had any luck with a ndiswrapper?
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: change directory dosent work?
[12:12] <TheHarbinger667> alchamy: nope, i alwasy used ipw out of hte box
[12:12] <particleman> hi everyone...I've been digging, and if such a list exists, I can't find a "Works out of the box" list for Dapper and wireless-G pci cards
[12:12] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: yeah I have to do this ritual everytime I boot up to get on the wireless net with WPA/ipw2200.. i just made a script out of it, but basically it goes like this (my ipw is eth1):  ifdown -a ; killall wpa_supplicant ; iwconfig eth1 essid <my ssid> channel <my channel> mode Managed ; wpa_supplicant -B -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D wext -i eth1 -dd ; wpa_cli disconnect ; wpa_cli reassociate ; wpa_cli remove keys ; wpa_cli reconfigure ; ifup eth1
[12:12] <alchamy> so "iwlist eth1 scan" only returns the one ap?
[12:12] <particleman> any help or recommendations that you could provide would be appreciated
[12:12] <jrib> !wireless
[12:12] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: I changed the direcotry and this is the message i get "zoidberg@zoidberg:/etc/modprobe.d$ sudo echo "options cx88xx card=4 tuner=44" > cx88xx
[12:12] <zoidberg> bash: cx88xx: Permission denied
[12:12] <zoidberg> zoidberg@zoidberg:/etc/modprobe.d$
[12:12] <zoidberg> "
[12:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:12] <linuchsan> TheHarbinger667:what does swscanner say?
[12:13] <ladydoor> brendonjt: oh, shiny!
[12:13] <Psych0tiC> mwe, I've tried starting it and then using netstat -ntlp,still isn't listed
[12:13] <particleman> yay bots :P
[12:13] <TheHarbinger667> linuchsan: swscanner
[12:13] <TheHarbinger667> ?
[12:13] <mwe> jrib: didn't it used to be httpd in older versions though? or is my memory failing me?
[12:13] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: the main mistake I found is that you need to use wext as the driver for wpa_supplicant, not ipw.. because of the kernels wireless extensions
[12:13] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: i t says "bash cx8xx: permission denied"
[12:13] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: i t says "bash cx88xx: permission denied"
[12:13] <TheHarbinger667> diseaser: but ipw has worked for over 1 year for me
[12:13] <Psych0tiC> mwe, btw I'm using Ubuntu 5.10
[12:13] <TheHarbinger667> it just broke 1 week ago
[12:13] <jrib> mwe: I don't know much about apache
[12:13] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: and for some reason, you ahve to make wpa_supplicant remove keys/reconfigure for it to associate
[12:13] <brendonjt> ladydoor:  you know how to  change the default server in bitchx
[12:13] <mwe> Psych0tiC: and sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start didn't complain?
[12:14] <mwe> jrib: ok
[12:14] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: in ubuntu? or some other linux?
[12:14] <Psych0tiC> mwe, no
[12:14] <TheHarbinger667> diseaser: ubuntu
[12:14] <mwe> Psych0tiC: is it running? ps -e|grep apac
[12:14] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: interesting.. well that fixed it for me.  I found something out there on the net suggesting the use of wext instead of ipw and that fixed it
[12:14] <TheHarbinger667> diseaser: i just use network manager (install from aptitude)
[12:14] <Psych0tiC> mwe, ps -e|grep apac doesn't sy anything just takes me to a new line
[12:14] <TheHarbinger667> and wireless works out of the box for me
[12:15] <TheHarbinger667> until now
[12:15] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: i used ipw too, before I started trying out ubuntu
[12:15] <ladydoor> brendonjt: sorry, i use irssi. maybe see if there's a #bitchx?
[12:15] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: are u there?
[12:15] <mwe> Psych0tiC: it's not running then
[12:15] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: ahh hmm
[12:15] <linuchsan> Psych0tiC: look at the log files
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: so line 2 dosent work..
[12:15] <mwe> Psych0tiC: check the logs
[12:15] <TheHarbinger667> maybe i need tyo reinstall ipw220 and the subsystem?
[12:15] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[12:15] <Psych0tiC> mwe, where?
[12:15] <mwe> Psych0tiC: /var/log/apache2
[12:15] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: well I did grab the latest ipw2200 fw & driver, and the latest ieee80211
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: type in term ls
[12:16] <TheHarbinger667> can you reinstall those from apt?
[12:16] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: had to compile them myself but I never was able to pinpoint if that was teh actual problem (the version)
[12:16] <TheHarbinger667> or do i have to compile from source
[12:16] <Psych0tiC> mwe, thge access and the error logs are empty
[12:16] <Psych0tiC> *the
[12:16] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: okay...now what?
[12:16] <mwe> Psych0tiC: odd
[12:16] <Computerex> Which language is ubuntu written in?
[12:16] <mwe> Psych0tiC: gotta go for a minute. bbl
[12:16] <Psych0tiC> mwe, k
[12:16] <Computerex> c?
[12:17] <Computerex> C++?
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: do you see cx88xx
[12:17] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: probably.. but to be honest I dont know for sure becuase I did it from source.. do a google search for "ubuntu ipw2200 wpa_supplicant" or something similar and you should find a pretty popular doc on the ubuntu forums that will walk you through all that stuff (obtaining the new versions, compiling/installing them)... that is if you cant find a way to do it with apt
[12:17] <linuchsan> Psych0tiC:and /var/log/messages
[12:17] <nozorro> Computerex: it depends, there are lots of languages being used
[12:17] <silent_scream> hi
[12:17] <diseaser> Computerex: grab the kernel source and check it out
[12:17] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: no i dont
[12:17] <ne78> Computerex many languages, C for the low level stuff
[12:17] <larryone> is there a seperate channel for ubuntu server???
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: I really, really need to get my work done...
[12:18] <bruenig> !server
[12:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[12:18] <TheHarbinger667> diseaser: i'm wondering if the latest version isn't what messed my system up in the first place
[12:18] <zoidberg> Jack_Sparrow: okay man its cool thanx a lot anyways
[12:18] <bruenig> #ubuntu-server
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: someone elase should be able to help... remember... patience
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:18] <silent_scream> i would like to know how can i make a script with some commands that would be executed when the system starts up!
[12:18] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, what am I looking for in that messages file ?
[12:18] <ne78> Computerex the gnome gui is mostly C, the kde gui is C++, there is a also a lot of "scripting langauge" bash,perl,python,ruby
[12:18] <larryone> thanks bruenig
[12:18] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: its possible but if you have only been using apt, I dont think there has been an update since 6.06.. I could be wrong though, but I dont think so.
[12:18] <ladydoor> silent_scream: when you log into your window-manager, or at boot time?
[12:19] <silent_scream> on boot
[12:19] <linuchsan> Psych0tiC:maybe errors
[12:19] <ladydoor> silent_scream: oh...uh...good luck
[12:19] <ladydoor> :-)
[12:19] <bruenig> silent_scream, write the script, make sure it is executable then put it in the startup commands tab in system>preferences>sessions, if you don't know how to do any of those steps do ask
[12:19] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, don't see any
[12:19] <TheHarbinger667> diseaser: yea, its also broken on a clean install with dist-upgrade
[12:19] <ladydoor> bruenig: zie wants it for *boot*
[12:19] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: once you run wpa_supplicant, run wpa_cli and type "help" at the command line to get a list of commands, then run some to see if the card works
[12:19] <bruenig> oh boot
[12:19] <diseaser> TheHarbinger667: ahh
[12:20] <linuchsan> ok...so there is no port 80 with netstat
[12:20] <larryone> I've got some network problems, I need to switch to a different network setup than the one I specified at install; what files do I need to edit???
[12:20] <larryone> /etc/hosts
[12:20] <larryone> /etc/networks
[12:20] <bruenig> silent scream, the startup scripts are in /etc/init.d/ I suppose you could tinker with that. I have never really messed with that though
[12:21] <silent_scream> ok bruenig  what i shall write in the script?
[12:21] <larryone> what others do I need to edit?
[12:21] <TheHarbinger667> diseaser: if i do a scan with wpa_cli.... i only see that 1 linksys router
[12:21] <linuchsan> Psych0tiC:what does dpkg -l |grep apache say?
[12:21] <silent_scream> i mean should i write something in the beginning and in the and?
[12:21] <TheHarbinger667> i have no idea what's so special and why only THIS router is showing up
[12:21] <TheHarbinger667> its not even in my room
[12:21] <TheHarbinger667> and i know its not the strongest signal strenght
[12:22] <Over_There> does anyone know why one user using bash in a terminal have the files color coded and another user not have the color coded files when ls is run?
[12:22] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, ii  apache2-common                        2.0.54-5ubuntu2                    next
[12:22] <bruenig> silent_scream I am very lacking in my script ability. I can do some simple things but nothing too complex. All my scripts start with #! /bin/bash as they are bash scripts but for boot I don't know
[12:22] <jrib> Over_There: one user does not have LS_COLORS set?  check ~/.bashrc
[12:22] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, generation, scalable, extendable web se
[12:22] <Psych0tiC> ii  apache2-utils                         2.0.54-5ubuntu2                    utility programs for webservers
[12:22] <Over_There> in the home directory of that user?
[12:23] <Computerex> Thanks for the Help guys. Now its time to turn off the monitor, and drool till the download completes. Bye!
[12:23] <Undo> are very dumb questions allowed here ?
[12:23] <linuchsan> Over_There: .bashrc
[12:23] <silent_scream> bruenig, if i make the script with the way you told me would it be executed when i log in to ubuntu?
[12:23] <bruenig> silent_scream, yeah right after login when gnome is loading
[12:23] <jrib> Over_There: yes.  Usually, .bashrc just runs 'dircolors -b' to output the proper command to set LS_COLORS, so look for that in the one that is working.  Then, see if the one that isn't working is lacking that command
[12:23] <jrib> Undo: sure
[12:24] <linuchsan> Psych0tiC:where is apache2
[12:24] <birdfish> Anyone here using Firestarter?
[12:24] <Over_There> ok thanks
[12:24] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, /etc/
[12:24] <birdfish> I'm trying to figure out what settings I need to apply to my secondary ethernet card eth1 in order to get internet connection sharing to work
[12:24] <silent_scream> ok then, thanx after  #! /bin/bash i will write my commands and in the end shold i write something?
[12:25] <linuchsan> Psych0tiC:but not with dpkg -l
[12:25] <Undo> jrib   thank you... i need to log on as root to change file permissions... is there a default password for root ?
[12:25] <ShoeUnited> Hello  :)
[12:25] <bruenig> silent_scream, no
[12:25] <jrib> !root > Undo
[12:25] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, how do you mean ?
[12:25] <nollidj> what package contains the gdm theme "human" (and has the file /usr/share/gdm/themes/human/Human.xml)?
[12:25] <bbrazil> nollidj: ubuntu-artwork
[12:25] <ShoeUnited> Having a bit of a hiccup following the mplayer installation guide on the forums, need a bit of help.
[12:25] <nollidj> thanks
[12:25] <bbrazil> nollidj: dpkg -S
[12:25] <ShoeUnited> !mplayer
[12:25] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[12:25] <nollidj> bbrazil: only searches in installed packages
[12:25] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:25] <jrib> ShoeUnited: are you using the mplayer packages from the repositories?  What is wrong?
[12:25] <linuchsan> Psych0tiC:what does apt-get install apache2 say?
[12:25] <silent_scream> bruenig,  and then i make it executable by "chmod +x myscript" ?
[12:25] <TheHarbinger667> diseaser: any other ideas? :(
[12:25] <bbrazil> nollidj: apt-file
[12:26] <bruenig> silent_scream yeah
[12:26] <J_P> hello, anyone know thw repository for gizmo on dapper ?
[12:26] <TheHarbinger667> no errors from dmesg either
[12:26] <birdfish> right now, I have it set up for "Address: 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Gateway Address: ?"
[12:26] <ShoeUnited> I downloaded mplayer from their site.
[12:26] <birdfish> Should the Gateway Address be the address of eth0?
[12:26] <nollidj> bbrazil: what gives you apt-file?
[12:26] <birdfish> In order to get NAT-ing to work?
[12:26] <bruenig> shoeunited, why not install the mplayer in the repos?
[12:26] <jrib> ShoeUnited: using the packages from the repositories is a lot easier
[12:26] <bbrazil> nollidj: lets you search contents of all packages
[12:26] <nollidj> good, then
[12:26] <ShoeUnited> And well, following this guide:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061     ---  I get to the part where it says type in 'make' and it doesn't recognize the command.
[12:26] <nollidj> thanks
[12:27] <linuxcrazy> umm
[12:27] <Xenguy> ShoeUnited: install 'build-essential'
[12:27] <bruenig> shoeunited, is there any special reason you want the non repo one from mplayers website?
[12:27] <ShoeUnited> Oh, lol I wasn't being contrary, I just found the guide after I downloaded mplayer.  lol
[12:27] <ShoeUnited> I didn't know it'd make a big difference. ^_^
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> !info mplayer
[12:27] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[12:28] <AbstractIdiot> !nftsd
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nftsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <AbstractIdiot> !nfts
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <AbstractIdiot> !ntfs
[12:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:28] <ShoeUnited> !ntfs
[12:28] <AbstractIdiot> !ext3
[12:28] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:28] <bruenig> Shoeunited, it doesn't really make a big difference. But it is so much easier. To download and install mplayer and all of that setup all you have to do is "sudo apt-get install mplayer" that is assuming you have the multiverse repository enabled
[12:28] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, it installed apache2-mpm
[12:28] <oscuro> guys, I have a big problem, I don't know why, but lately this machine isn't connecting to the internet.
[12:29] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, it is working now... thanks :D
[12:29] <ShoeUnited> bruenig: I wouldn't know how to check if it is enabled...
[12:29] <Masqy> Hi all, If I by mistake ran an application from terminal, but not from screen, is there a way to move it to background somehow, and then regain control over it's stdin/out from screen?, something like Ctrl-Z, bg, disown procnum... screen... what next?
[12:29] <oscuro> I thought first it was the isp, but then I can see my neighbour, who I share connection with.
[12:29] <bruenig> shoeunited, try the command and see if it works
[12:29] <linuchsan> Psych0tiC:ok
[12:29] <oscuro> and he has connection.
[12:29] <oscuro> I look at the net configuration, and everything seems to be ok.
[12:29] <JairunCaloth> What version of the NVIDIA driver is in the Dapper repos?
[12:29] <ShoeUnited> okey doke :)
[12:29] <magus_x> problem solved :D
[12:29] <bruenig> here is a really simple guide shoeunited for enabling multiverse repo if it isn't enabled, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[12:30] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, how do I setup that my IP connects to the /www/ folder ?
[12:30] <ShoeUnited> It says "couldn't find package mplayer"
[12:30] <ShoeUnited> Ok, I'll give thatl ink a shot. ^_^
[12:31] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, I mean if I type in my ip, it's the same as if I typed in localhost
[12:31] <Justin_> How do you add a Window Manager to the GDM?
[12:31] <nozorro> oscuro: how exactly do you share the connection? dsl rouer?
[12:31] <linuchsan> Psych0tiC:with reading
[12:31] <bruenig> follow that guide, after you have done that do "sudo apt-get update" to refresh your repos and then do "sudo apt-get install mplayer" again
[12:31] <Ranbee> hi, can someone tell me what the program which uses aptitude is called? i want to install it
[12:31] <oscuro> nozorro, yes :(
[12:31] <Justin_> Like a homebrew not well known WM, that does not automatically set itself in?
[12:31] <oscuro> I don't know what's goin on.
[12:31] <Psych0tiC> linuchsan, it's much easier to ask :)
[12:31] <oscuro> I'm sure it's something with the linux, since for that downtime.
[12:31] <ShoeUnited> ok ty bruenig :)
[12:31] <nozorro> oscuro: now can you ping the router from your machine?
[12:31] <oscuro> the neighbour uses the internet.
[12:32] <jrib> Justin_: check out /usr/share/xsessions/ but if you install a window manager from the repositories it should automatically be setup
[12:32] <oscuro> nozorro....I don't know how to do that.
[12:32] <oscuro> I'm learning.
[12:32] <Justin_> jrib, No this is a WM that I coded myself - and I am not sure how to attach the install to GDM yet ---- so I guess I need to manually edit a config file .. however I have no idea what that file is
[12:32] <oscuro> it has nothing to do with the the bandwidht full.
[12:33] <nozorro> oscuro: open System | Administration | Network Tools please
[12:33] <oscuro> because I umpluuge
[12:33] <oscuro> ok
[12:33] <Xenguy> oscuro: if you had Net connectivity at one point, then the key question becomes 'What changed' since then :-)
[12:33] <nozorro> oscuro: now go to he 'ping tab'
[12:33] <jrib> Justin_: you create a new .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/, use the ones that are there as templates.  The fluxbox faq has a really simple one too that you can use as a guide
[12:33] <ShoeUnited> It didn't have community nor multiverse
[12:33] <linuchsan> Psych0tiC:have you tried it?
[12:33] <Justin_> jrib, Yup seems like the solution - thanks :)
[12:33] <Ranbee> does adept use aptitude from the cli?
[12:34] <oscuro> wait I min.
[12:34] <oscuro> xeng... nothing weird as I remember
[12:34] <jrib> Justin_: np
[12:34] <TheHarbinger667> diseaser: i'm gonna try installing everything from CVS
[12:34] <Over_There> jrib: i copyed the file over from a user that had the working colors in bash, but when i log in there are still no colors until i run the command "bash"
[12:34] <TheHarbinger667> i'll see if that works
[12:34] <TheHarbinger667> and i'll report back later tonite
[12:34] <TheHarbinger667> cheers
[12:35] <oscuro> nozorro, I don't have "network tools"
[12:35] <oscuro> weird..
[12:35] <bh> what's the release that's going to follow dapper ?
[12:35] <magus_x> eddy
[12:35] <magus_x> something like that
[12:35] <bh> I haven't gotten many updates in dapper recently and I was wondering if that's because folks are working on something else now.
[12:35] <Xenguy> bh: etch
[12:35] <oscuro> system/admn/net
[12:35] <Xenguy> gah
[12:35] <bh> How stable is etch ?
[12:35] <Xenguy> edgy
[12:35] <bh> edgy ?
[12:35] <Xenguy> bh: I had a 'debian moment' ;-)
[12:35] <reaper> i need help people please
[12:35] <brotherJohn1234> hehe
[12:35] <oscuro> "connections", "general", "dns"....
[12:35] <bh> how stable is it and what kind of improvements does it have ?
[12:36] <reaper> how do i unistall edubuntu?
[12:36] <oscuro> "ethernet connection"
[12:36] <bh> like newer versions of KDE and friends ?
[12:36] <jrib> Over_There: does the .bashrc set LS_COLORS?
[12:36] <nozorro> oscuro: Wait wait !  it may have been moved to somwhere else in he menue ... you can  also open it from the terminal, entering 'gnome-nettools'
[12:37] <oscuro> aight :)
[12:37] <nozorro> oscuro: does it start now?
[12:37] <fabsoft> hi all, anyone has a hfc-pci card with misdn ?
[12:37] <oscuro> would you wait me a min?.... err I'm updating the apt-get :(
[12:37] <Over_There> jrib: it has the command that you pointed out that should do it
[12:37] <oscuro> 1 min to be exactly :|
[12:37] <jrib> Over_There: yep, how are you starting the terminal?
[12:38] <Over_There> login into the server over ssh
[12:38] <Xenguy> .oO( edgy eft ? )
[12:38] <ShoeUnited> Oh, it worked wonderfully lol ^_^  Much easier.  lol
[12:38] <jrib> Over_There: ah ok, then .bashrc won't get sourced (I think).  Instead it will call, ~/.bash_profile.  The default ~/.bash_profile sources ~/.bashrc though.  Can you check the contents of ~/.bash_profile and see?
[12:39] <bh> jesus christ, 175 to be updated
[12:39] <bh> packages I mean
[12:39] <Over_There> no such file
[12:39] <factotum> is there somewhere i can select what daemons and services are launched at startup?
[12:39] <ShoeUnited> And I was so proud of myself when I installed java and flash for firefox all by myself, it's almost embarrassing.  LOL
[12:39] <factotum> or would i have to just recompile a new kernel?
[12:39] <jrib> Over_There: you can use /etc/skel/.bash_profile if you want
[12:40] <brendonjt> factotum: system->admin->services
[12:40] <Over_There> ok thanks again
[12:40] <brendonjt> factotum: for your services that start up
[12:40] <oscuro> gnome-nettools command not found nozorro!
[12:40] <jrib> reaper: just format the partition you installed edubuntu on
[12:40] <Kerr> i want to install sisfb (sis framebuffer driver for my sis630 graphics chip) so i can get hardware acceleration on my laptop; but i'm way over my head when it comes to messing with the kernel; is there a way to simplify things - ie using module assistant?
[12:40] <reaper> um its on my base drive
[12:41] <oscuro> uh
[12:41] <BlackMage> anyone know how I can get superuser priviliges? having some trouble installing Opera
[12:41] <reaper> i used symatic packeger to install it
[12:41] <jrib> !sudo > BlackMage
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> sudo operainstaller
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> !opera
[12:41] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:41] <BlackMage> thanks
[12:41] <oscuro> nozorro? :(
[12:41] <jrib> reaper: oh, so you are using Ubuntu, and installed edubuntu-desktop?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> You can install it with the synaptic thang. :)
[12:41] <reaper> ya
[12:41] <ne78> Does "sudo su" works under ubuntu ?
[12:41] <ShoeUnited> hmmm
[12:41] <jrib> ne78: yes, but use 'sudo -i' instead
[12:41] <brendonjt> Dr_Willis:  yip  i have seen it in the repo's
[12:42] <nozorro> oscuro: be a bit patient please :-)  so install nettols please; anyway it should be part of the normal ubuntu install. otherwise, you could use the ping command from the terminal
[12:42] <ShoeUnited> mplayer says "unable to find simple control! 'PCM',0
[12:42] <reaper> ya jrib thats what i did how do i remove it?
[12:42] <oscuro> ok sir.
[12:42] <doppelganger__> hey guys...   does gnome have the ability to let you change the font color on the taskbar?
[12:42] <oscuro> I'll see how to install that brb, and thanks a lot nozorro =)
[12:42] <gratuit> hi, I'm using aterm, and when I start it, I get errors of the following type "aterm: can't load color "White", colorID = 17, (29)" If I try to specify any colors as options, the program aborts and does not run, any ideas on what I could do to fix this?
[12:42] <ne78> jrib: what is the effective difference ?
[12:42] <doppelganger__> i'm running into a problem with KDE not letting me change to anything from black, which makes my new black kicker totally useless
[12:43] <brendonjt> Dr_Willis:  sudo apt-get install opera
[12:43] <capnkewl> i am having Amarok Issues anyone aaround that can help?...
[12:43] <nozorro> oscuro: if you don't install it, enter 'ping your-router-address' in the terminal and tell me what happens
[12:44] <jrib> ne78: 'sudo -i' is basically the same as 'sudo su -'.  It will reset your environment
[12:44] <Mazingaro> hi
[12:44] <ne78> jrib: i see, i was reading the man page...
[12:44] <ShoeUnited> How do I install the essential codec pack is there an 'apt-get' thing for that?
[12:44] <oscuro> nozorro, I'm so loser I don't what's my router address....
[12:44] <brendonjt> capnkewl: what is the problem
[12:44] <jrib> reaper: I don't know of an easy way to do it.  Maybe with deborphan after removing the edubuntu-desktop package
[12:44] <doppelganger__> is changing from kubuntu to ubuntu as easy as installing ubuntu-desktop?
[12:45] <doppelganger__> that'll be my last question
[12:45] <nozorro> oscuro: if you don't know that, then you can't connect to the Internet. Not even under Windows. I'm serious.
[12:45] <capnkewl> I am running Linspire with amarok and anytime i try and use it lately i keep getting Xine Errors
[12:45] <reaper> deborphan????
[12:45] <Mazingaro> I've got a problem with ubuntu 6.06: I cannot run X, I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and then startx to test it, but X answered only with an error like "device not found"... Any hints?
[12:45] <jrib> doppelganger__: yes, you will get GNOME.  But you will also still have kde
[12:45] <sharperguy> doppelganger__, kind of, it will intall kubuntu, but it wont remove ubuntu, so your menus might be a bit clittered
[12:45] <sharperguy> *cluttered
[12:45] <oscuro> the only thing I did in the past in order to connect to internet, was to enable the dhcp in the net configuration :(
[12:46] <doppelganger__> what's the easiest tech way to get around having all the KDE crud and just having a plain jane ubuntu install?
[12:46] <brendonjt> capnkewl: umm have you  tried reinstallin xine
[12:46] <capnkewl> apparently i exited on accident oops
[12:46] <capnkewl> yeah i have
[12:46] <ne78> A related question are kde package part of the main ubuntu or only part of the universe part ?
[12:46] <capnkewl> both the amnarok xine engine and xine itself
[12:47] <brendonjt> capnkewl: what about the codecs
[12:47] <capnkewl> and now i cant get rid of Xine Player
[12:47] <capnkewl> that may be above me i am a total Noob to linux
[12:47] <capnkewl> and it makes me feel uber dumb
[12:47] <capnkewl> :)
[12:47] <mjr> doppelganger__, probably apt-get --purge remove libqt3-mt would take rather most of the KDE stuff away with it
[12:47] <brendonjt> capnkewl: where have you tried removing from term  or the gui?
[12:47] <penguinsuckers> hello
[12:47] <capnkewl> from GUI i have been using CNR
[12:48] <nozorro> oscuro: so do you have dhcp enabled now for the corresponding network device? Pls look under System | Administration | Networking
[12:48] <penguinsuckers> what is the command to switch between nvidia and xorg gl drivers?
[12:48] <penguinsuckers> or glx modules i mean
[12:48] <oscuro> yes sir.
[12:48] <capnkewl> and Xine isnt in my CNR although i installed it from there
[12:48] <doppelganger__> mjr: thanks man, i'll give it a whirl
[12:48] <parker`>  I am having problems booting linux distros on my computer. What happens is right after the kernel loads, the system seems to just freeze. On the ubuntu minimal install disc it loads the kernel and then goes to a black screen. On the Ubuntu live CD, it pops up the Ubuntu loading screen after loading the kernel and doesn't do anything at all until I reboot. I ran memtest for a few hours, no errors, I am using the box right now to talk to you, so wind
[12:48] <nozorro> oscuro: so please open terminal seor :-)
[12:48] <parker`> my hardware: AMD Athlon64 X2 4600+, ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition, 2x1GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 in dual channeled mode, GeForce 7900GT, 2x250GB SATA2 drives
[12:49] <penguinsuckers> mjr: those are my initials, give them back ;)
[12:49] <oscuro> ok lol
[12:49] <mjr> doppelganger__, oh, that might take some non-kde stuff as well if you've installed qt apps
[12:49] <brendonjt> capnkewl:hmm  thats weird
[12:49] <mjr> doppelganger__, in that case removing kdelibs4c2a might be "safer"
[12:49] <oscuro> done
[12:49] <nozorro> oscuro: pls. enter: 'ping localhost'
[12:49] <capnkewl> yeah i agree i have NO IDEA whats wrong i mean i loaded XMMS and then it worked for a little bit while XMMS was working but this is only happening in Amarok
[12:49] <mjr> but of course, plain jane ubu doesn't have the qt libs either ;)
[12:50] <doppelganger__> i'm just ticked that KDE won't let you change the font color on the taskbar....
[12:50] <capnkewl> also even when i uninstall amarok it still keeps my collection when i reinstall
[12:50] <inco> is there a easy way to make it so when i type /j #channel i dont need the # in xchat
[12:50] <doppelganger__> it's black, or nothing..
[12:50] <mjr> penguinsuckers, I'm kinda stuck with them
[12:50] <ne78> parker`: do you try the x86 or amd64 version ?
[12:50] <capnkewl> like i said linux is still WAY ABOVE ME!
[12:50] <SixtyFold> just curious, when ubuntu is loading for most of you, does the screen usually just so black with the little time mouse thing on the bottom right?
[12:50] <nozorro> pls enter 'ping
[12:50] <oscuro> this appears "64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=25 ttl=64 time=0.118 ms
[12:50] <oscuro> "
[12:50] <parker`> ne78: amd64
[12:50] <oscuro> and keeps going like a thousand times :(
[12:50] <nozorro> oscuro: ok
[12:50] <capnkewl> my winxp crashed (Lost user.ini) so i just put freespire on here and i have Ubuntu on my other box
[12:50] <SixtyFold> the the cd live was working fine, than i started to do a load and left it for a second and came back to this, ive never used ubuntu before though so im not sure...
[12:51] <SixtyFold> its definately processing information from the disc so i assume its loading but its just not showing specifics or anything
[12:51] <nozorro> oscuro: which device is sending out to the internet, the first one, i.e. eth0?
[12:51] <penguinsuckers> user.ini isn't that the user's registry?
[12:51] <ne78> parker`: i would try to boot on console only, just to see if it realted to video
[12:51] <capnkewl> kinda
[12:51] <oscuro> etho yes.
[12:51] <oscuro> tha's the one.
[12:51] <difeta> hey all, I have compiz running, and I'm wondering how I change the theme. I have the ccwd interface, but clicking on the themes does nothing. Any ideas?
[12:52] <brotherJohn1234> nozorro: mostly.
[12:52] <parker`> ne78: I tried.. I tried to do the gentoo minimal, and gentoo with the nox option
[12:52] <capnkewl> its the file that makes windows WORK apparently
[12:52] <capnkewl> without it you are fucked
[12:52] <sharperguy> !languagew
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languagew - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <sharperguy> ****!!!
[12:52] <sharperguy> !language
[12:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:52] <oscuro> 156 packets transmitted, 156 received, 0% packet loss, time 155741ms
[12:52] <oscuro> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.093/0.124/0.225/0.020 ms
[12:53] <capnkewl> ok i will have to brb i have to go get my kids from daycare
[12:53] <oscuro> it's receiving packages then.
[12:53] <capnkewl> bbs
[12:53] <ShoeUnited> Help with mplayer since they seem kinda dead.  LOL
[12:53] <ne78> parker`: can you boot without any graphic stuff (logo and such) to see the last line of kernel output ?
[12:53] <nozorro> oscuro: now enter 'sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces' in the terminal and tell me what it says about eth0
[12:53] <linuchsan> capnkewl: what about apt-get kids
[12:53] <oscuro> yes sir.
[12:54] <parker`> ne78: going to go try a few things, bbs
[12:54] <louis__> hi all - just reading the mail
[12:54] <Axe_> Hi, I have a few SMB mounts setup in fstab.  However when I boot my system all of my SMB mounts don't show, only my ntfs mounts.  I have to sudo mount -a for them all to show up; why is htis?
[12:55] <ne78> Axe_: network ins't up ?
[12:55] <ks> how do I slice 42Gb file into pieces ?
[12:55] <oscuro> done
[12:55] <ne78> Axe_: are you using network manager ?
[12:55] <oscuro> mmm it's long.
[12:55] <oscuro> basicly
[12:55] <oscuro> # The loopback network interface
[12:55] <oscuro> auto lo
[12:55] <oscuro> iface lo inet loopback
[12:55] <oscuro> and this...
[12:55] <oscuro> # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem.
[12:55] <oscuro> mapping hotplug
[12:55] <oscuro> 	script grep
[12:55] <oscuro> 	map eth0
[12:55] <Axe_> ne78: do not know what that is; my net is ethernet and works automatically
[12:55] <oscuro> and this other.
[12:55] <mjr> ks, split
[12:56] <nozorro> oscuro, stop! i only want to know about eth0!!!
[12:56] <oscuro> # The primary network interface
[12:56] <oscuro> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:56] <oscuro> auto eth0
[12:56] <anthony> can some one walk me through how to install this radeon 9700?! I've been trying to for the last seven hours and I've looked through every tutorial available and I still have NO idea
[12:56] <Axe_> ne78: could it be that when the mount -a is run in startup, my network has not been initialized yet?
[12:56] <oscuro> geez! what's that?
[12:56] <ne78> Axe_: yes maybe
[12:56] <Axe_> Is there some way I could add a mount -a in startup routines that would  be after my network interface is initialized?
[12:56] <sethk> Axe_, sure
[12:56] <ne78> Axe_: but if your card is listed in /etc/network/interface i think it should works
[12:56] <sethk> Axe_, simplest way is to add it at the end of the script that initializes your network interface
[12:57] <ne78> Axe_: otherwise with nework manager it's normal
[12:57] <^Down> I need some help. My laptop running ubuntu will play sounds, just won't play any audio in firefox, cdplayers, etc
[12:57] <brendonjt> anthony:  i am after the same as i have a similar card
[12:57] <oscuro> nozorro?
[12:57] <brendonjt> anthony:  i am just using the default vga at the moment
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[12:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:58] <ks> mjr can i join it back ?
[12:58] <Axe_> sethk: Which would be where? :P
[12:58] <anthony> brendonjt: it sucks.  I installed it successfully a while back, and I've completely forgotten how!
[12:58] <mjr> ks, with cat
[12:58] <mjr> cat parts > whole
[12:59] <ks> ahha thanks
[12:59] <sethk> Axe_, usually in /etc/init.d
[12:59] <ne78> Axe_: do you have S45mountnfs.sh ? in /etc/rcS.d ?
[12:59] <Gun_Smoke> Anyone with experience setting up a HP 2840?  I've got it to print, but I don't think it's configured correctly.  I have tried to follow the directions here.https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters
[01:00] <brendonjt> anthony:  hmm true
[01:00] <larryone> I need to install a machine over a console
[01:00] <larryone> how do I specify the lack of a framebuffer?
[01:00] <anonqwerty02> I'm going away to school for a few months... is there any way to get my computer to email me my ip address periodically because it occasionally changes?
[01:00] <anthony> brendonjt: I asked here and some gnarly bot gave me a link, and it worked brilliantly
[01:00] <linuchsan> Gun_Smoke:and what about scan to folder!!!
[01:01] <ks> mjr "/usr/bin/split: Output file suffixes exhausted"
[01:01] <ne78> Axe_: i think mountnfs doesn't take cifs or smbfs, so just add it to /etc/init.d/networking at the end of start
[01:01] <anthony> brendonjt: I'd damned if I can remember what it was though
[01:01] <brendonjt> anthony:  whats the link?
[01:01] <larryone> how do I specify the lack of a framebuffer? from the boot prompt????
[01:01] <Gun_Smoke> linuchsan:  What about it?
[01:01] <anthony> brendonjt: haha no idea
[01:01] <nozorro> oscuro: ok assuming your cables are ok and your machine is *not* connected to the router via usb, maybe it's really best to forget about dhcp and set it all up manually then. but you'd need to know the addresses then. -- sorry, i don't know much about the dncp innards of ubuntu, and it has failed on me several times ...
[01:01] <ladydoor> larryone: do you want to turn off the bootsplash?
[01:01] <damned> anthony: anyway you r damned.
[01:01] <ne78> Axe_: it's a hack this kind of problem will be resolved with the new upstart project i think
[01:02] <linuchsan> Gun_Smoke:could be your next question
[01:02] <oscuro> it's ok nozorro.
[01:02] <anthony> damned: damned to what?
[01:02] <larryone> ladydoor, bootsplash????
[01:02] <oscuro> you helped me really much, I appreciate your attention.
[01:02] <larryone> I wantr to turn off the framebuffer
[01:02] <ladydoor> !bootsplash
[01:02] <Gun_Smoke> linuchsan:  Well I'll get to that.. I would just like to get it set up properly.
[01:02] <anthony> damned: damned to fowever trying to get linux to work
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <oscuro> actually I have internet now, I jus hope this thing keeps like thatn =)
[01:02] <ladydoor> larryone: that image at boot
[01:02] <oscuro> thank you nozorro.
[01:02] <larryone> !framebuffer
[01:02] <brendonjt> anthony:  awe come on
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about framebuffer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <Axe_> Also, another thing.. I have two ntfs mounts, however only one of them is working at the moment
[01:02] <damned> anthony: damned to using word damned :)
[01:03] <Axe_> Somtimes both will work.. sometimes only one
[01:03] <ladydoor> larryone: with *buntu at the top and startup info scrolling below it?
[01:03] <anthony> damned: damn you damned
[01:03] <Gun_Smoke> linuchsan:  Do you have experience with the 2840?
[01:03] <nozorro> oscuro: pues ya lo has resuelto? :-) -- pls. always check the config. of your dsl router, dhcp especially
[01:03] <anthony> hahaha
[01:03] <larryone> ladydoor, I am connected over the console, I have no video card
[01:04] <oscuro> whatever you say officer =D
[01:04] <oscuro> I'll keep reading linux stuff.
[01:04] <ladydoor> ah. so that's why you want to turn off framebuffering?
[01:04] <linuchsan> Gun_Smoke:the 2840 is rubbish
[01:04] <oscuro> I'm so noob.
[01:04] <anthony> brendonjt: this was the link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:04] <Gun_Smoke> linuchsan:  why?
[01:04] <larryone> yes
[01:04] <TheGame> larryone: u dont have a video card?
[01:04] <anthony> it probably will work
[01:04] <larryone> I dont have a video card in my server
[01:04] <anthony> thank christ I backed it up eh?
[01:04] <TheGame> oh
[01:04] <brendonjt> anthony:  cheers mate having a look there  now
[01:05] <ladydoor> larryone: i wasn't even aware that the ubuntu framebuffer worked other than for the bootsplash. i'm sorry, i don't know how to turn it off
[01:05] <nozorro> oscuro: happened to me as well, some years ago. and networking will always be somewhat difficult
[01:05] <larryone> ok
[01:05] <linuchsan> Gun_Smoke:cause scan to folder doesn't work
[01:05] <larryone> thanks anyway
[01:05] <larryone> I will continue to google
[01:05] <ladydoor> np...good luck. does it mess up your computer somehow?
[01:05] <oscuro> I'm kinda confused since I left windows forever.
[01:05] <oscuro> lol
[01:05] <oscuro> but I'm just going :/
[01:05] <TheGame> ?
[01:05] <Gun_Smoke> linuchsan:  with linux?
[01:05] <TheGame> why did u leave windows
[01:06] <Axe_> Another question: All of my mounts currently show up on my desktop, but I only want some of them to; any way to change this
[01:06] <ladydoor> oscuro: good fo you on leaving windows!
[01:06] <linuchsan> Gun_Smoke:and windows
[01:06] <oscuro> there's no a single bit of windows in this box yeah :)
[01:06] <brendonjt> anthony:  so i take it those drivers worked?
[01:06] <anthony> they did
[01:06] <jrib> Axe_: I believe that if you don't mount them in /media, they won't show up on your desktop
[01:06] <nozorro> oscuro: you aren't serious, are you?
[01:06] <oscuro> nozorro lol.
[01:06] <Gun_Smoke> linuchsan:  I haven't tried with windows.. Why wouldn't the feature work if its offered?
[01:06] <anthony> brendonjt: as far as I remember I followed it to the letter
[01:06] <oscuro> it was a bad decision?
[01:06] <ladydoor> nozorro: what's wrong with deleting windowz?
[01:07] <Axe_> whats the bash cmd for making a new folder
[01:07] <jrib> Axe_: mkdir
[01:07] <nozorro> oscuro: you'll see :-|
[01:07] <TheGame> mkdir
[01:07] <Axe_> thx
[01:07] <oscuro> ...well apart of my brothers trying to kill me for the sudden change :/
[01:07] <ShoeUnited> Hey there I have a problem with my alsa driver. :/
[01:07] <oscuro> lol
[01:07] <brendonjt> anthony:  cool  thanks  trying it now
[01:07] <shawnr_> Swiftfox question: im a loyal last.fm user. my problem is when i click on a station from their web site, i get a message saying "Firefox doesn't know hot to open this address because it isn't associated with any program...." but when i go into the list in prefs, it doesn't allow me to add a new associations... how can i fix this ?
[01:07] <matthewf> whats that command thats not find but does a similar job /
[01:07] <Harksaw> IN Dapper 64, My onboard sound  (Think it's called a SigmaTel STAC9220) has about a quarter second delay. It's a little annoying during games. Anyone have any idea how I could fix it?
[01:07] <TheGame> why did u change oscuro
[01:07] <anthony> brendonjt: I have attempted to reinstal them with loads of other stuff though, and so I'm going to reinstall linux
[01:07] <strangy> why o why did i bought a PIONEER DVR-109 CD/DVD burner
[01:08] <ladydoor> matthewf: locate
[01:08] <tomasz27> HI ALL
[01:08] <jrib> matthewf: locate, whereis?
[01:08] <linuchsan> Gun_Smoke:try it!
[01:08] <ShoeUnited> !alsa
[01:08] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:08] <matthewf> thems the ones
[01:08] <strangy> and just now realized that its firmware makes havoc with growisofs
[01:08] <Gun_Smoke> linuchsan:  How about the scan to email?
[01:08] <strangy> after i ruined 4 DVDs
[01:08] <strangy> :)
[01:08] <tomasz27> where does firefox store bookmarks in Ubuntu?
[01:08] <oscuro> oh, well I thought I could get along with it, with some practice.
[01:09] <oscuro> as we did before with windows.
[01:09] <Axe_> how do I demount something from a folder
[01:09] <oscuro> just matter of time.
[01:09] <jrib> tomasz27: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html
[01:09] <jrib> Axe_: umount
[01:09] <strangy> Axe_, umout /path/to/foldeer
[01:09] <tomasz27> thnx
[01:09] <ladydoor> tomasz27: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html
[01:09] <anthony> tomasz27: no idea: export them and you get a nice little html file with them in
[01:09] <Noumaan> how do I quickly get a list of all translateable packages on Ubuntu dapper
[01:09] <oscuro> anyways, "I'll try" to buy another hard disk with windows for my brothers.
[01:09] <TheGame> y dont u just partition oscuro
[01:10] <oscuro> I did it.
[01:10] <Axe_> Nope.. it still shows up on the desktop
[01:10] <TheGame> ?
[01:10] <oscuro> but
[01:10] <tomasz27> is there a new version of FLASH for Firefox in Ubuntu?
[01:10] <rpedro_> Noumaan: launchpad.net :)
[01:10] <oscuro> there was a problem.
[01:10] <TheGame> no tomasz27
[01:10] <oscuro> uh.
[01:10] <tomasz27> ok
[01:10] <TheGame> what problem
[01:10] <exs_> How do I take a screenshot?
[01:10] <TheGame> its in accessories exs_
[01:10] <TheGame> app called Take Screenshot
[01:10] <Gun_Smoke> exs_:  Printscreen
[01:10] <shawnr_> Does anyone know how to associate programs with links in firefox?
[01:10] <TheGame> or u can press printscreen
[01:11] <oscuro> I'm an idiot I messed up up the system.
[01:11] <Noumaan> rpedro_:  launchpad isn't very google friendly
[01:11] <sean_> I found a .sys file I use for ndiswrapper, which works. Can bcm43xx-fwcutter use it?
[01:11] <oscuro> it didn't load windows, or linux.
[01:11] <TheGame> so fix it oscuro
[01:11] <oscuro> nothing.
[01:11] <TheGame> first install windows
[01:11] <oscuro> I fixed it.
[01:11] <oscuro> the solution was. hey let's just install linux..
[01:11] <TheGame> o
[01:11] <cafuego> sean_: maybe. The prepackaged firmware files will work, though.
[01:12] <Redrose> !ubot
[01:12] <Axe_> Also is there a way to change what the mounted folder is called on the desktop
[01:12] <oscuro> my hard disk is 20 gb.
[01:12] <Noumaan> i am facing another problem i need to know how to authenticate and join a domain on windows network from my ubuntu client
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <oscuro> sucks.
[01:12] <Axe_> say from "/mnt/win1" to "Windows Drive 1"
[01:12] <Redrose> !ubot video
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubot video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <TheGame> what r u trying to do Axe_
[01:12] <Redrose> !video
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <sean_> cafuego: thanks
[01:12] <rpedro_> Noumaan: what are you trying to do?
[01:12] <oscuro> hey guys, thanks.
[01:12] <oscuro> thanks nozorro!
[01:12] <oscuro> bbl
[01:12] <Redrose> Can anyone recommend video editing software for ubuntu?
[01:12] <TheGame> kino
[01:13] <Axe_> TheGame: I have my windows drives mounted and they are sitting on my desktop. I'd like them to not show up on my desktop and to be called something sane like "Windows Drive 1" instead of "/mnt/win1"
[01:13] <rpedro_> Noumaan: I guess you check the installed files in synaptic for the 'language-pack*' for you r language
[01:13] <TheGame> i can tell you how to get rid of them
[01:13] <Iceman_2k> The need to release Battlefield 2 for Linux
[01:13] <shawnr_> Anyone ?
[01:13] <Noumaan> rpedro_: good
[01:13] <TheGame> not sure shawnr_
[01:13] <TheGame> Axe_:  do this
[01:13] <Axe_> Ah that will help
[01:13] <Noumaan> rpedro_:  and what about my networking troubles
[01:13] <TheGame> open up gconf-editor
[01:13] <Axe_> ok
[01:14] <Redrose> Iceman_2k, Get Cedega
[01:14] <TheGame> now go to apps
[01:14] <Redrose> itll let you play your windows games on linux
[01:14] <Redrose> !Cedega
[01:14] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:14] <TheGame> then nautilus
[01:14] <linuchsan> !bill
[01:14] <TheGame> then desktop
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <TheGame> tell me when ur there
[01:14] <linuchsan> !gates
[01:14] <Axe_> I do'nt see it here
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <rpedro_> Noumaan: don't know much about samba, rarely use it...
[01:14] <rpedro_> !samba
[01:14] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:14] <TheGame> what do u not see
[01:14] <Axe_> "desktop"
[01:14] <linuchsan> !killall ubotu
[01:14] <Axe_> I found it though
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about killall ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <Axe_> its under nautilus
[01:14] <rpedro_> Noumaan:^^ maybe it has the answer to your question
[01:15] <TheGame> ya thats what i said
[01:15] <Iceman_2k> Rodrose hate those subscription programs. Maybe WINE, but repeated paying for something
[01:15] <Axe_> oih haha
[01:15] <TheGame> ok now uncheck volumes_visible
[01:15] <treitter> is there a "best practice" for a package that only _partially_ conflicts with another? (ie, overwriting one of its config files)?
[01:15] <TheGame> now u wont get the icons on the desktop
[01:15] <Redrose> Iceman_2k, the site it gave you has the version you don't have to pay for
[01:16] <linuchsan> !whois ubotu
[01:16] <ubotu> whois: the GNU whois client. In component main, is optional. Version 4.7.11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 28 kB, installed size 252 kB
[01:16] <TheGame> did that work Axe_
[01:16] <dannylapt> what is the command to mount a cdrom? I tied one way but must have got it wrong
[01:16] <Redrose> it's a CVS build... when you pay for Cedega, you are basically paying for the precompiled binaries, but with the site it gives you, put in a little work and you will get it
[01:16] <Iceman_2k> Redrose I've used wine, whats preformance like though ?
[01:16] <Axe_> TheGame: Do I have to update something?
[01:16] <Axe_> They are still there atm
[01:17] <Redrose> Great, runs like it's on windows
[01:17] <ladydoor> dannylapt: does it not mount automagically? and what command di dyou use?
[01:17] <grexk> morning everyone
[01:17] <ladydoor> Redrose: so it crashes a lot?
[01:17] <ladydoor> :-(
[01:17] <TheGame> u may have to log out and log back in
[01:17] <ladydoor> (based on my experience, at least)
[01:17] <Axe_> ok
[01:17] <SonicChao> How do I install RPM?
[01:17] <ladydoor> SonicChao: get the package alien
[01:17] <Redrose> lol, let...
[01:17] <TheGame> SonicChao: you need to install alien
[01:17] <Xenguy> SonicChao: normally you shouldn't have to
[01:18] <linuchsan> dannylapt: mount /dev/cdrom /where/to/mount
[01:18] <SonicChao> ladydoor and TheGame: Thanks. =)
[01:18] <dannylapt> Ladydoor: I used mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom. And no it does not mount automatically. Im using 6.06 Server.
[01:18] <redcard> So does anyone here use xchat-gnome?
[01:18] <TheGame> i do redcard
[01:18] <SonicChao> redcard: Why use xchat-gnome?
[01:19] <redcard> TheGame: How do you make the OSD / Notification stuff work?
[01:19] <viator> i use regular xchat
[01:19] <TheGame> actually it might just be xchat
[01:19] <SonicChao> viator: So do I.
[01:19] <TheGame> hmm
[01:19] <TheGame> not sure redcard
[01:19] <ladydoor> dannylapt: oh...did you do it with sudo?
[01:19] <TheGame> if u look through the options im sure u can find it
[01:19] <mlehrer> which repository has openssh-server
[01:19] <mlehrer> is it in universe?
[01:20] <viator> latr
[01:20] <dannylapt> ladydoor: Yes. It looks like it mounts but when u go to extract a tar file on the CD using "tar xvfz FILENAME.tar.gz, It scrolls errors saying it cant write.
[01:20] <jrib> !info openssh-server
[01:20] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[01:20] <SonicChao> How do I install rpm with package alien then?
[01:20] <jrib> mlehrer: it's in main it seems
[01:21] <jrib> SonicChao: what are you trying to install?
[01:21] <SonicChao> jrib: LimeWire.
[01:21] <jrib> !limewire
[01:21] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[01:21] <sean_> cafuego: I tried both the firmware packages and extracting the firmware -- ifconfig does not mention anything other than the ethernet card and lo. Am I doing something wrong?
[01:21] <SonicChao> !FrostWire
[01:21] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:21] <TheGame> SonicChao:
[01:21] <TheGame> i suggest installing blackdown java
[01:21] <TheGame> and then frostwire
[01:21] <ladydoor> dannylapt: oh, it's mounted. try this tar xvfz filename.tar.gz > ~/filename, or copying it to your home dir fist
[01:22] <ladydoor> *first
[01:22] <SonicChao> Ok, let's see FrostWire first then...
[01:22] <cafuego> sean_: What does 'lspci' say about the wific ard?
[01:22] <chuckyp> I love it the 686 image is still f'd up.
[01:22] <ladydoor> dannylapt: you can't just write to a cd like that without a program as an intermediary
[01:22] <TheGame> SonicChao: frostwire is the same thing as limewire its just blue instead of green
[01:22] <sean_> cafuego: it mentions it
[01:22] <SonicChao> TheGame: Ok.
[01:22] <cafuego> sean_: What does it say _exactly_
[01:23] <dannylapt> ladydoor: alright, Thank you.
[01:23] <sean_> cafuego: um -- let me see if I can paste
[01:23] <cafuego> Just the one line
[01:23] <sean_> cafuego: okay
[01:23] <SonicChao> Thanks! =3
[01:23] <sean_> cafuego: just a second
[01:23] <SonicChao> It had a .deb, FrostWire anyway.
[01:24] <ladydoor> dannylapt: np, did it work?
[01:24] <yango> best HTML editor, IYHO? (in ubuntu repositories)
[01:24] <shannon> cafuego: I'm SeanTater's laptop
[01:24] <shannon> cafuego: 0000:08:07.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[01:24] <Xenguy> yango: vim (ducks)
[01:25] <shannon> cafuego: um -- that would be sean_'s laptop
[01:25] <cafuego> Ok, it's a 4318. You need to go to the bcm43xx page on the wiki and hop through the hoops to make a 4318 work.
[01:25] <SonicChao> yango: bluefish ?
[01:25] <BlackMage> I'm trying to watch a dvd on Totem, but I get this error message "No URI handler implemented for "dvd"."
[01:25] <dangson> can someone tell me how to edit entries in the apps menu?
[01:25] <TheGame> dangson:
[01:25] <TheGame> go to accessories
[01:26] <TheGame> then a la carte
[01:26] <yango> SonicChao: it seems so... I'm looking for something better though :(
[01:26] <ladydoor> !libdvdcss > BlackMage
[01:26] <killown> how I install mplayer with apt-get?
[01:26] <BlackMage> thanks
[01:26] <jrib> killown: first enable multiverse, then: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[01:26] <Xenguy> yango: nvu is WYSIWYG
[01:26] <jrib> !multiverse > killown
[01:26] <dangson> TheGame, ahh, thanks. so obvious :D
[01:26] <SonicChao> jrib: Is it ok that I installed it with GDebi Pkg Installer?
[01:26] <TheGame> np
[01:27] <jrib> SonicChao: that's perfectly fine (you are referring to frostwire right?)
[01:27] <bean-oh> yango, vim ;)
[01:27] <SonicChao> jrib: Yes
[01:27] <SonicChao> jrib: But, it's giving me errors from terminal
[01:27] <linuchsan> killown:and after do an apt-cache search first, for cpu.
[01:28] <killown> ?
[01:28] <jrib> SonicChao: did you install a JRE?
[01:28] <shannon> cafuego: any specific places I mught start at (thare are a lot of ones mentioned all over the wiki page)
[01:28] <linuchsan> killown:and after do an apt-cache search mplayer
[01:28] <SonicChao> jrib: I have Java
[01:28] <yango> bean-oh: emacs :P
[01:28] <jhb> hi *. I have enough space for ubunut on my x31, I already run windows and debian. I would like to install ubuntu, have no cdrom, no floppy. What to do?
[01:28] <SonicChao> jrib: I got it with EasyUbuntu
[01:28] <ladydoor> jhb: do you have usb?
[01:28] <jrib> SonicChao: ok, Sun Java, right?
[01:28] <SonicChao> jrib: Yes
[01:29] <jhb> ladydoor: not really
[01:29] <shannon> cafuego: eureka!
[01:29] <jhb> ladydoor: as in: never managed to boot from my usb stick
[01:29] <shannon> cafuego: ifconfig found it
[01:29] <ladydoor> jhb: ah. sorry, no idea then
[01:29] <cafuego> shannon: cool :-)
[01:29] <jrib> SonicChao: copy your errors to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link please
[01:29] <jhb> ladydoor: maybe I could use my usb backup harddisk?
[01:29] <SonicChao> jrib: Ok
[01:29] <killown> linuchsan I not found repository with mplayer
[01:30] <Axe_> yes
[01:30] <Axe_> it worked
[01:30] <linuchsan> shannon:not tonight
[01:30] <jhb> ladydoor: if I get it to run, just look under usb installation?
[01:30] <jhb> ladydoor: I assume?
[01:30] <killown> linuchsan help - me
[01:30] <SonicChao> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21922
[01:30] <SonicChao> jrib: It says no Java, but RuneScape works...
[01:30] <killown> linuchsan help - me of repository
[01:31] <jrib> SonicChao: ok, run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and make sure you have Sun Java selected
[01:31] <killown> linuchsan help - me of repository with mplayer
[01:31] <ladydoor> jhb: i guess so
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[01:31] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:31] <jhb> ladydoor: thx
[01:31] <ladydoor> jhb: can you netboot somehow? or is there a way to boot an iso on your computer?
[01:31] <jrib> killown: did you get the message from ubotu about multiverse?
[01:31] <linuchsan> killown: first you have to set the multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:31] <SonicChao>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[01:31] <SonicChao> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[01:31] <SonicChao>       3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:31] <SonicChao> jrib: That's confusing me
[01:32] <Axe_> Okay but still, when I boot my system my four samba shares are not working
[01:32] <jhb> ladydoor: I will have to to the bios to check on that
[01:32] <Axe_> I have to sudo mount -a
[01:32] <jrib> SonicChao: press 3 then enter
[01:32] <ladydoor> jhb: oh
[01:32] <jhb> ladydoor: to go to
[01:32] <SonicChao> Using `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[01:32] <kill4killin> Hey, im having a problem installing freevo on dapper drake. I followed the install instructions, however, when i run 'python setup.py install' it tells me that i dont have mmpython. So i download mmpython and it wont install either...can someone help me figure out whats going on?
[01:32] <SonicChao> jrib: Is that right?
[01:32] <ladydoor> :-(
[01:32] <jrib> SonicChao: yes, now try froswtire one more time
[01:32] <jhb> ladydoor: so I reboot now, just a couple of mins
[01:33] <ladydoor> jhb good luck
[01:33] <jhb> ladydoor: thx
[01:33] <ladydoor> kill4killin: is there a libmmpython-dev?
[01:33] <ladydoor> kill4killin: or an mmpython-dev?
[01:33] <kill4killin> lemme see one second
[01:33] <kill4killin> would that be in the directory that the mmpython is in?
[01:33] <SonicChao> jrib: ty!
[01:33] <jrib> SonicChao: np
[01:34] <kill4killin> or would it be something i need to get like an apt get or something
[01:34] <edgarin> Hi to all
[01:34] <edgarin> I have a problem with my ubuntu and firefox
[01:34] <kill4killin> what is it, maybe we can help
[01:35] <ali1234> hi. i've got a problem with vdr. i configured it all but when i run it from init.d it just quits after 5 seconds. runs okay when i run it on console. nothing enlightening in syslog. any ideas?
[01:35] <lufis> Hi. I want to install some truetype fonts. Where are they kept, and does any command need to be run to refresh the list/register them?
[01:35] <kill4killin> ladydoor, there doesnt appear to be anything called either libmmpythong-dev or mmpython-dev on my hard drive
[01:36] <jrib> !fonts > lufis
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !fonts
[01:36] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:36] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:36] <ladydoor> kill4killin: i meant in the repos
[01:36] <kill4killin> o, one moment
[01:36] <lufis> Thank you jrib. Give ubuto a treat for me
[01:37] <jrib> !botsnack
[01:37] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:37] <kill4killin> ladydoor, there does not appear to be anything. I had to get mmpython file from sourceforge
[01:37] <kill4killin> i tried to apt-get it, but i was unable to find it that way
[01:38] <fiendskull9> how do i copy all the files in a directory (without copying the folder full of files)
[01:39] <ali1234> fiendskull9: huh? explain what you want more clearly :)
[01:39] <Jimmey> I've heard that ATI isn't great on Linux - How much worse would a supported ATI be than a supported nVidia one?
[01:39] <fiendskull9> i want to copy the files in ~/foo
[01:39] <fiendskull9> to /usr/local/share/foo
[01:39] <fiendskull9> but the directorys have names like BLAHHHHH and horsies
[01:39] <ladydoor> kill4killin: hm. is there an option somewhere to specify the location of mmpython?
[01:40] <rixxon> how to get gossip working with gmail
[01:40] <fiendskull9> i want to cop the files in BLAHHH to horsies
[01:40] <parker`> hey, is there a way to load ubuntu with framebuffer off? I didn't see the option on my AMD64 livecd
[01:40] <ladydoor> fiendskull9: do you want to copy *everything from ~/BLAHHH to /usr/local/share/HORSIES?
[01:40] <fiendskull9> yessir
[01:40] <ladydoor> fiendskull9: *lady* door. it's not sir
[01:40] <ShoeUnited> .asoundrc is missing a reference to pcm on my SB Audigy SE card, is there a repos or something to fix it?  A link?  help?
[01:40] <kill4killin> no that i know of. According to the README in the folder, all i need to do is 'python setup.py install' but whats funny is that i need mmpython to install mmpython... o.o
[01:40] <clee> anybody else seeing broken fonts in edgy?
[01:40] <fiendskull9> yessum :)
[01:41] <ladydoor> fiendskull9: sudo cp ~/BLAHHH/* /usr/local/share/horsies
[01:41] <jrib> clee: are you using unofficial repositories?  For compiz maybe?
[01:41] <StoneNote> clee,  #ubuntu+1
[01:41] <fiendskull9> the edgy alpha/beta is out already!?
[01:41] <ladydoor> fiendskull9: lol
[01:41] <clee> jrib: nope
[01:41] <Jimmey> ShoeUnited, try apt-cache search pcm
[01:41] <ladydoor> fiendskull9: still in heavy development
[01:41] <clee> StoneNote: thanks
[01:41] <ShoeUnited> ok ty Jimmey
[01:41] <fiendskull9> figures
[01:41] <Jimmey> ShoeUnited, let me know what it says
[01:41] <StoneNote> clee, yw
[01:41] <fiendskull9> seems like dapper is still catching on
[01:41] <fiendskull9> lol
[01:42] <fiendskull9> i remember the minute it was released
[01:42] <fiendskull9> we all did the wave in here
[01:42] <fiendskull9> lol
[01:42] <ladydoor> fiendskull9: it'll be supported longer than the other releases, though, dapper will
[01:42] <kill4killin> it cought on to me really fast :D I love it ever since i moved to it from sarge debian
[01:42] <ShoeUnited> ok
[01:42] <greg> whats a good tv veiwing app?
[01:42] <grexk> greg: mythtv
[01:42] <linuchsan> greg:tvtime
[01:42] <grexk> !mythtv
[01:42] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[01:43] <linuchsan> greg:tvtime
[01:43] <ladydoor> greg: the television :-)
[01:43] <greg> neither of those worked
[01:43] <linuchsan> greg:tvtime
[01:43] <grexk> ladydoor: lol
[01:43] <grexk> !youtube
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about youtube - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <ali1234> greg: how bout mplayer then?
[01:43] <killown> I not found package mplayer in apt-cache
[01:43] <ShoeUnited> O.o
[01:43] <parker`> hey, is there a way to load ubuntu with framebuffer off? I didn't see the option on my AMD64 livecd
[01:43] <ShoeUnited> There's a lot here....
[01:44] <Jimmey> ShoeUnited, I'll take a look
[01:44] <ali1234> greg: the default app for testing is xawtv... if that doesn't work something's wrong with your configuraition
[01:44] <kill4killin> ladydoor, you got any more ideas? I really need this thing to work, but it seems rediculous
[01:44] <ladydoor> parker`: does its framebuffer work? why does it matter if it's on?
[01:44] <greg> ive tried xawtv kdevtv tvime and mythtv
[01:44] <ShoeUnited> K.
[01:44] <linuchsan> greg:so
[01:44] <mark_> !democracy
[01:44] <ladydoor> kill4killin: :-(...search in the repos for python and just see what comes up? sorry, i really don't know
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <greg> none worked
[01:44] <mark_> !democracy tv
[01:44] <gnomefreak> killown: make sure you have the multiverse repos enabled
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracy tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <ali1234> greg: is it analogue or digital tv?
[01:45] <linuchsan> greg:dmesg will work
[01:45] <Jimmey> ShoeUnited, usually, when I get a "Factor X is missing. Can't install!" message, I apt-cache search factorX, and then randomly install what looks right.
[01:45] <parker`> ladydoor: because linux distros won't load on my comp unless I disable framebuffer.. most live CDs have a separate kernel for it, like gentoo comes with gentoo and gentoo-nofb for people with framebuffer issues, it happens with newer video cards
[01:45] <ladydoor> ShoeUnited: and also look for factorX-dev
[01:45] <grexk> kill4kill: can I help
[01:45] <linuchsan> greg:will give you all the problems
[01:45] <ShoeUnited> Jimmey:  http://pastebin.com/778392
[01:45] <ladydoor> parker`: oh...
[01:45] <ladydoor> !livecd
[01:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[01:45] <kill4killin> ladydoor, thank you for your time. Do you know of any programs that might be able to play a dvd? I have tried mplayer, gxine, totem and vlc and none of them work
[01:46] <ladydoor> kill4killin: do you have the non-free dvd codeces installed?
[01:46] <greg> i just want my tunercard to work on ubuntu
[01:46] <gnomefreak> !restricted > kill4killin
[01:46] <greg> happuage wintv-go-plus
[01:46] <kill4killin> i installed all the proprietary ones i believe
[01:46] <ladydoor> parker`: sorry...you might search for ubuntu boot options
[01:46] <gnomefreak> kill4killin: the info is on the link ubotu sent you
[01:46] <linuchsan> greg:so what does dmesg say
[01:46] <kill4killin> yea, i installed all the restricted, thats what they are called
[01:46] <greg> what part u want?
[01:46] <killown> gnomefreak I not found it in source.list
[01:46] <ShoeUnited> FactorX-dev doesn't display anything.
[01:46] <ladydoor> kill4killin: do you have libdvdcss?
[01:47] <kill4killin> gnomefreak, thats what i looked at, i got ALL of those codecs and it still doesnt work
[01:47] <gnomefreak> kill4killin: did you set teh region?
[01:47] <kill4killin> gnomefreak, what?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> killown: you need to enable multiverse repo
[01:47] <linuchsan> greg:mybe something with your tv card?
[01:47] <kill4killin> ladydoor, i can seem to find it
[01:47] <killown> gnomefreak as I do?
[01:47] <kill4killin> cant*
[01:47] <greg> [17179592.436000]  tveeprom 2-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)
[01:47] <greg> [17179592.436000]  tveeprom 2-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
[01:47] <greg> [17179592.436000]  tveeprom 2-0050: audio processor is None (idx 0)
[01:47] <greg> [17179592.436000]  tveeprom 2-0050: decoder processor is BT878 (idx 14)
[01:47] <greg> [17179592.436000]  tveeprom 2-0050: has no radio, has IR remote
[01:47] <ladydoor> kill4killin: aha...i think you need it to play encoded dvds
[01:47] <gnomefreak> kill4killin: you might need to set the regoin please read that page it should tell you how
[01:48] <gnomefreak> greg: dont paste in here use pastebin
[01:48] <kill4killin> gnomefreak, i shall read it once more and see if i missed anything
[01:48] <greg> ?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> !repos > killown
[01:48] <kill4killin> ladydoor, do you know where i could find it?
[01:48] <ladydoor> !paste > greg
[01:48] <gnomefreak> killown: please read your pm
[01:49] <linuchsan> greg:and lsmod |grep tv
[01:49] <greg> k
[01:50] <greg> i do pate thing right?
[01:51] <greg> paste*
[01:51] <chuckyp> Anyone know a good utility to capture video of your desktop?
[01:51] <grexk> !istanbul
[01:51] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 65 kB, installed size 344 kB
[01:51] <fiendskull9> chuckyp: been there done that, and there really isnt one
[01:51] <linuchsan> greg:lsmod |grep tv ,in the console
[01:51] <ali1234> chuckyp: there's a couple of solutions which record a vnc session, but they are not great
[01:51] <fiendskull9> chuckyp: i know theres a way to make a shell script that takes a picture of your desktop ever second or so, and you can put them together
[01:52] <greg> ?
[01:52] <linuchsan> greg:have you got mplayer installed
[01:52] <Xenguy> chuckyp: 'wink' might run thru wine
[01:52] <chuckyp> ali1234, well I was checking out xvidcap which seemed to be what I wanted.  But i'm having problems with their debian package and some old dependecies.
[01:52] <greg> i did it at the command thing and used pate thingy
[01:52] <greg> paste*
[01:52] <ShoeUnited> I think my pastebin link killed Jimmey
[01:52] <ali1234> chuckyp: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~bsd/vncrecording.html
[01:53] <linuchsan> greg:                   lsmod |grep tv
[01:53] <greg> mplayer isnt installed
[01:53] <dain> server irc.freenode.net
[01:53] <greg> linuchsan: ive done that
[01:53] <grexk> chuckyo: screenkast
[01:53] <ali1234> greg: after you pasted it into pastebin, you have to send us the link...
[01:54] <chuckyp> I guess I can just install the older libpng2 and libpng10-0
[01:54] <ShoeUnited> greg:  www.pastebin.com  ^_^
[01:54] <jake1> bleh
[01:54] <chuckyp> and get xvidcap runing
[01:54] <greg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21924
[01:54] <jake1> anyone know what site gives the list of wirless cards supported by ubuntu
[01:54] <jake1> ??????
[01:54] <ladydoor> !wireless
[01:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:54] <jake1> hehe
[01:54] <jake1> shoulda thought of that
[01:55] <ladydoor> jake1: meh
[01:55] <ShoeUnited> !.asoundrc
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asoundrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <ladydoor> chuckyp: use the import function provided by imagemagick
[01:55] <ShoeUnited> :/
[01:56] <ladydoor> chuckyp: maybe
[01:56] <ladydoor> chuckyp: (for the screenshots)
[01:56] <linuchsan> greg:can you install mplayer
[01:56] <greg> k i got mplayer insTALLED NOW
[01:56] <ladydoor> OK
[01:56] <ladydoor> *OKAY
[01:56] <greg> srry capslock
[01:56] <ladydoor> lol
[01:56] <ShoeUnited> lol ladydoor
[01:56] <chuckyp> ladydoor, nah I want to capture directly to mpeg instead to jpg or picture captures.
[01:57] <ladydoor> chuckyp: ah. no idea.
[01:57] <^Down> Can someone help me out with this problem with GTKPod? http://pastebin.com/778398
[01:58] <greg> so what do i do w/ mplayer to play tv?
[01:58] <sean_> cafuego: it got no further
[01:58] <linuchsan> greg:what is yor country
[01:58] <greg> usa
[01:58] <chuckyp> Well I found an article that goes through it all but its down.  Just lovely
[01:58] <sean_> caf it found the device and then I had to plug it back in(away from the ethernet's cord reach
[01:58] <lostinc> How do you configure Totem to play DVDs once you have downloaded, compiled, and installed libdvdcss??
[01:59] <linuchsan> greg:ok
[01:59] <jrib> !dvd > lostinc
[01:59] <eXistenZ> What is the equivalent program for Outlook in ubuntu?
[02:00] <jrib> lostinc: I'm not sure, but the dvdcss package seems to do it automatically
[02:00] <greg> thunderbird
[02:00] <bean-oh> eXistenZ, evolution
[02:00] <ladydoor> eXistenZ: mutt
[02:00] <eXistenZ> bean-oh, evolution > thunderbird?
[02:00] <grexk> chuckyp: try motion
[02:00] <grexk> !motion
[02:00] <ladydoor> eXistenZ: it's all a matter of opinion
[02:00] <ubotu> motion: V4L capture program supporting motion detection. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.3-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1389 kB, installed size 3652 kB
[02:00] <ladydoor> !best
[02:00] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:00] <bean-oh> thunderbird is to outlook express as evolution is to outlook
[02:00] <^Down> Can someone help me out with this problem with GTKPod? http://pastebin.com/778398
[02:01] <ShoeUnited> lol nice addition to the bot.
[02:01] <linuchsan> greg:what does    mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:norm=ntsc tv://   say
[02:01] <bean-oh> eXistenZ, ladydoor i was referring to the exchange support in evolution
[02:01] <Xenguy> eXistenZ: if speed is important (on slower hardware), then 'sylpheed'
[02:01] <ali1234> evolution is slow, and it's password prompts wont go away unless you kill it (eg, if you accidently clicked a mailto: in firefox)
[02:01] <chuckyp> I'm trying to find a google cache of this article
[02:02] <greg>  it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21925
[02:03] <ShoeUnited> I loved that game sylpheed, anyway, still having problems with .asoundrc
[02:04] <linuchsan> greg:type amixer cotrols
[02:04] <jcapote> how can i restart/reinstall my powermanager? the one on my laptop seems hosed, it says that my battery has 0% power and it shows the ac cord over it, even though its not plugged it and i left it charged all day
[02:04] <linuchsan> greg:type amixer controls
[02:04] <iJeff> Can anyone help me with getting an external monitor to work on this laptop running ubuntu with an old 7500 ATI Mobility card?
[02:04] <bh> what's the best way of upgrading to edgy from dapper ?
[02:04] <greg> linuchsan:where?
[02:04] <bh> or is that even recommended ?
[02:05] <ladydoor> jcapote: what's the output of acpi
[02:05] <ladydoor> ?
[02:05] <linuchsan> greg:in console
[02:05] <ladydoor> bh: that would be a downgrade
[02:05] <jcapote>      Battery 1: discharging, 0%,  remaining
[02:05] <jcapote> right now its on battery
[02:05] <bh> ladydoor oh really ? edgy is a downgrade ?
[02:05] <lostinc> I installed Totem-Xine now and when attempting to play a DVD it asks if I am trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss. I have compiled and installed libdvdcss from source any ideas why Totem-Xine cant find it?
[02:05] <ladydoor> oh! i thought you said *from* edgy
[02:06] <greg> u want to see it?
[02:06] <ladydoor> bh: oh! i thought you said *from* edgy
[02:06] <minerale> I just added an entry to my hosts file, when i type 'host neweentry' it does not come up? how can I flush the dns cache ?
[02:06] <ladydoor> bh: but edgy is still in heavy development
[02:06] <DylanRE> Are the build-essential tools not available for edgy?
[02:06] <linuchsan> greg:what is the numid for Capture Source?
[02:06] <ladydoor> bh: unless you'e a developer, you probably shouldn't install it at all yet
[02:07] <greg> 20
[02:07] <jcapote> ladydoor: also the lightning bolt symbol on the front of my battery is blinking as if it had no power
[02:07] <jcapote> i mean my laptop, not my battery*
[02:07] <minerale> anyone know how I can have the networking whatever reread the /etc/hosts file ?
[02:07] <bh> ladydoor yeah, I made that mistake already and my packaging dependencies are screwed up right now.
[02:07] <BlueEagle> bh: Since edgy is beta software then the quality of the application and the distribution as a whole might be concidered degraded. Also the amount of testing needing to be done to make sure that there are no security holes also might suggest that the security of edgy is degraded. Wether or not that is enough to condicer edgy a 'downgrade' is a matter you might debate. Further edgy discussions might be carried on in #ubuntu+1 which is the correct channel f
[02:07] <brendonjt> so far what is new in eadgy?
[02:07] <linuchsan> greg:amixer cget numid=20 what does it say?
[02:08] <ali1234> minerale: should not be necessary. are you sure you put it in right?
[02:08] <ladydoor> bh: ...so you're in edgy right now?
[02:08] <bh> BlueEagle oh ok.
[02:08] <ali1234> minerale: unless you type the host command on another machine on your net, of course
[02:08] <bh> ladydoor I tried to dist-upgrade but it failed.
[02:08] <bh> so the system is now in a state that's half broken
[02:08] <ladydoor> BlueEagle: i misread hir post
[02:08] <ladydoor> BlueEagle: which is where the "downgrade" question came in
[02:08] <bh> mostly kde dependencies and a couple of other things are hosed.
[02:09] <greg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21927
[02:09] <bh> I'm mostly looking for the latest KDE and GNOME packages.
[02:09] <ladydoor> bh: i would ask out loud and maybe post on the forums...
[02:09] <bh> I know I can recover, but it's going to be a pain in the ass
[02:10] <justin_> bh -apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <BlueEagle> ladydoor: I still would argue that edgy at this point is a downgrade and that edgy discussions is more appropriate in #ubuntu+1 also regarding attempts to undo the change in distribution.
[02:10] <jcapote> ladydoor: any idea?
[02:11] <jcapote> ladydoor: is there another way to see how much battery i have remaining?
[02:11] <ladydoor> jcapote: honestly...no. i'm sorry :-(
[02:11] <ladydoor> *i don't know
[02:11] <greg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21927
[02:11] <minerale> ali1234: well I'm overwriting a prior entry
[02:11] <jcapote> maybe via dev somewhere?
[02:11] <ali1234> jcapote: look in /proc/acpi
[02:11] <ali1234> jcapote: but it's probably wrong there too
[02:11] <brendonjt> what irc clients are people using here?
[02:12] <greg> gaim
[02:12] <bean-oh> xchat
[02:12] <ladydoor> irssi
[02:12] <devhen> xchat
[02:12] <darkbutterfly> hey
[02:12] <jbroome> irssi
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> xchat 2.4 :)
[02:12] <brendonjt> ok  as i tried xchat-gnome  and it crashed my system big time
[02:12] <Eusebus> hum both
[02:12] <darkbutterfly> i use xchat-gnome
[02:12] <justin_> jcapote: They have a program on source forge for that sort of thing.
[02:12] <Eusebus> I use Xchat and irssi
[02:12] <brendonjt> so i had to go  back to bitchx
[02:13] <justin_> brendonjt: Yes, Xchat gnome is bad.
[02:13] <darkbutterfly> i like it
[02:13] <jcapote> ali1234: it is, i can get everything but present charge level...is there a way to read battery level that is not via acpi?
[02:13] <justin_> Get "xchat" minus the Gnome
[02:13] <greg> use gaim
[02:13] <ladydoor> brendonjt: ctcp version <user>
[02:13] <jcapote> cuz even at the hardware level, my laptop thinks it has zero battery
[02:13] <devhen> jcapote:  cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
[02:13] <ladydoor> brendonjt: (with a /)
[02:13] <jcapote> devhen: thats what i just did
[02:13] <jcapote> its all on zero
[02:14] <devhen> jcapote: or theres a battery monitor for the gnome panel. try that?
[02:14] <jcapote> devhen: that uses acpi
[02:14] <greg> linuchsan:u ther?
[02:14] <ali1234> jcapote: acpi is the only way
[02:14] <ali1234> jcapote: did it work before? did you boot with noacpi?
[02:14] <brendonjt> i have just got a new motherboard and did a reinstall  haven't  tried a X version of a irc client
[02:14] <ladydoor> brendonjt: just kidding...it's just /version, not /ctcp version
[02:14] <jcapote> it was just out of the blue
[02:14] <jcapote> today
[02:15] <herbal> whats the command for the xorg configurator thing?
[02:15] <Eusebus> do you knox if there's a french chan about kubuntu?
[02:15] <brendonjt> ladydoor:  awe thanks
[02:15] <ladydoor> brendonjt: sorry...i'm trying to figure it out too...
[02:15] <jcapote> i would plug my laptop in and the gnome applet didnt change
[02:15] <brendonjt> ladydoor:  thats  cool
[02:15] <linuchsan> greg:is the audio line external?
[02:15] <jcapote> so i left it charging and its charged, cuz if it was as low as it thinks it was itd be off by now
[02:15] <greg> yes it is
[02:16] <linuchsan> greg:from tv to audio
[02:16] <greg> it plugs into line in
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[02:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:16] <herbal> could someone tell me the command for the xorg configurator thing? i need to completely redo my xorg
[02:16] <linuchsan> greg:so it is on aux?
[02:16] <brendonjt> i'm  just installing xchat  and i'll see how it goes
[02:16] <brendonjt> brb
[02:17] <NewtoUbuntu> Is it possible to use just the Scanner and copier  of a scanner Printer Copier and print with a different Printer?
[02:17] <jcapote> brb
[02:17] <jcapote> im going to go play around in the bios
[02:17] <devhen> herbal: gksudo emacs /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:17] <jcapote> what is the benefit of boooting without acpi?
[02:17] <greg> a courd like a computer speaker cord plugs from tunercard to soundcard
[02:17] <herbal> there is an app though...with menus and stuff for it
[02:17] <greg> cord*
[02:17] <linuchsan> greg:ok
[02:17] <ali1234> jcapote: if you have a buggy acpi bios, your system wont crash
[02:17] <herbal> i just forget the command
[02:17] <jcapote> ohi see
[02:17] <ladydoor> herbal: actually, you should probably use gedit instead, if you're not used to emacs...
[02:17] <jcapote> but my machine is stable
[02:18] <linuchsan> greg:amixer cset numid=20 4
[02:18] <jcapote> brb
[02:18] <herbal> im stuck on commandline lol
[02:18] <jazzrocker> and wouldn't it be gksudo xemacs ?
[02:18] <justin_> herbal: Stuck? - console rules friend :)
[02:18] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: emacs has an optional windowed vesion
[02:18] <herbal> stuck in the sense that ide like to get xgl and stuff running but atm my xorg is compltely misconfigured and i need to redo it
[02:18] <NewtoUbuntu> I have a Printer/Scanner/Copier Combo however the printer is broken, is it possible to use just the Scanner and copier off that como and use a regular printer to print?
[02:18] <greg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21928
[02:18] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, called xemacs
[02:19] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: to just use it in the terminal, you need to do emacs -nw
[02:19] <jazzrocker> i see
[02:19] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: no, that's a separate program that split a long time ago
[02:19] <brendonjt> back  hehe that  better  looking
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:19] <vik> Both my monitor and graphics card can support 1152x864 res, but it doesn't show up as an option. I've dpkg-reconfigured xserver-xorg, and made sure it's in there, but gnome won't let me select it. Any ideas? I don't think it's in the VESA modes of the monitor, but it definitely can do that res.
[02:19] <devhen> jazzrocker: emacs has its own x-based windowed version. you dont need xemacs for it
[02:19] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: i use emacs, trust me on this one
[02:19] <jazzrocker> given that emacs is more bloated than a walrus i wouldn't know :)
[02:19] <jazzrocker> devhen, i see
[02:19] <herbal> ty
[02:19] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: no religious debates, please
[02:19] <brendonjt> ladydoor:  i just installed xchat  and hmm looks better
[02:20] <NewtoUbuntu> will some1 help me or point me to a place where some1 Can hlep me?
[02:20] <jazzrocker> brendonjt, what were you using before?
[02:20] <ladydoor> brendonjt: sweet!
[02:20] <brendonjt> bitchx
[02:20] <jazzrocker> NewtoUbuntu, not unless you ask your question no
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: did you install any drivers for your video card..  What video card..
[02:20] <NewtoUbuntu> ive asked it
[02:20] <ladydoor> !print
[02:20] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:20] <jazzrocker> NewtoUbuntu, oh i see, k
[02:20] <justin_> Emacs :)) - what a waste of code..
[02:20] <ladydoor> NewtoUbuntu: you might also check out the command gnome-volume-properties
[02:20] <ali1234> greg: have you actually tuned your card? linuchsan: why are you grilling him on audio mixers?
[02:20] <jazzrocker> justin_++
[02:20] <justin_> Well I guess some people use it, but I stick to mousepad for text editing..
[02:20] <ladydoor> ...
[02:20] <linuchsan> greg:and is LINE up when you type alsamixer in console?
[02:20] <vik> JackSparrow: onboard intel 810 or something... it works, and works at 1280x1024.
[02:20] <jazzrocker> justin_, what pad?
[02:21] <NewtoUbuntu> How so ladydoor
[02:21] <lgespee> hello
[02:21] <ladydoor> justin_: the problem with mousepad is in its name:  mouse
[02:21] <ladydoor> lol
[02:21] <lgespee> maybe this is a question much asked today and yesterday
[02:21] <NewtoUbuntu> how would i do that ladydoor
[02:21] <ladydoor> NewtoUbuntu: type <alt>f2 gnome-volume-properties <enter>
[02:21] <justin_> ladydoor: :)) - yeah but it really is nice simple and small
[02:21] <Xenguy> justin_: it's a programmer thing AFAICT
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: it works at 1280 x 1024
[02:21] <greg> linuchsan:i havn one anything but install apps
[02:21] <ladydoor> justin_: haha...i like a text editor that can browse the interweb :-)
[02:21] <greg> havnt*
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: what are you trying to get..
[02:21] <lgespee> but from the Ubuntu-NL leader we heard a rumour that upstart is going to be in Edgy, it's only not clear if it is going to be in main or not, is it or is it going to be a *verse thingy?
[02:22] <devhen> mousepad = text editor for xfce
[02:22] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: I want 1152x864
[02:22] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, and therein lies the difference
[02:22] <justin_> Not me I like my programs small and simple
[02:22] <justin_> too much features = confusion
[02:22] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: lol
[02:22] <jazzrocker> same reason i don't have a leatherman tool
[02:22] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: i don't even know what one is
[02:22] <brendonjt> in xchat  is there a way to auto /msg nickerv .........  to identify  you
[02:23] <linuchsan> grep: have you installed xawtv?
[02:23] <lgespee> brendojt, yeps
[02:23] <fiendskull9> hey
[02:23] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, Leatherman(TM) <--- brand of multi tool/pocket knife/swiss army knife/pliers, wire cutters, scissors, screw driver etc etc
[02:23] <devhen> ladydoor: http://www.sprinkler.com/buy/leatherman :)
[02:23] <lgespee> brendonjt: let me look it up for you
[02:23] <fiendskull9> im compiling gimpshop
[02:23] <ladydoor> lol
[02:23] <fiendskull9> and its saying it found 2 diff vers of glib
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: Add the res you want to  gksudo gedit  /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[02:23] <brendonjt> thankss just having a look my self
[02:23] <jazzrocker> now a knife... that's a good thing to have
[02:23] <lgespee> brendonjt: edit -> preferences -> networks -> freenode -> edit
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: as long as you are sure your monitor supports it and you installed the correct drivers
[02:23] <linuchsan> grep: if you have, run scantv
[02:23] <greg> how do i tune it?
[02:24] <ali1234> greg: run tvtime-scanner (in a console)
[02:24] <lgespee> brendonjt: Nickserv password
[02:24] <jazzrocker> a "pocket knife" i don't know, that's starting to get sketchy
[02:24] <lgespee> brendonjt: that's it ;)
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[02:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:24] <greg> ive tried that
[02:24] <Axe_> How can I mount a regular disc image ISO to a folder
[02:24] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: yay! you said sketchy. i like that word
[02:24] <greg> tvtime scanner
[02:24] <greg> it found channels then crashed
[02:24] <ladydoor> Axe_: sudo mount /path/to/iso /path/to/folder
[02:24] <ali1234> greg: and? start up tvtime... press i a few times
[02:24] <linuchsan> greg:run dmesg
[02:24] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: It's already there, under the Screen Section. but Xorg.0.log says: (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x864" (no mode of this name)
[02:24] <lgespee> ladydoor: isn't the option -o loop needed?
[02:25] <linuchsan> greg:what does it say?
[02:25] <ladydoor> lgespee: is it? i honestly don't know...
[02:25] <greg> i dont have tv time anymore
[02:25] <lgespee> ladydoor, let me look that one up too ;)
[02:25] <greg> cause it was crashing
[02:25] <brendonjt> lgespee:  i just had a look  i've got settings-pref
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: then you need to post your xorg to pastebin so someone can look it over.
[02:25] <jazzrocker> "whoa! I'm so leet! watch me browse the intarweb without pictures!"
[02:25] <linuchsan> greg:try scantv
[02:26] <lgespee> brendonjt: open that one, and then select "Network(s)" from the list on the left
[02:26] <ladydoor> lgespee: if it is, let me know what it does. i didn't see it in the manual
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> I am busy elsewhere..
[02:26] <Axe_> mount: /media/cdrom/starcraft.iso is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[02:26] <greg> scantv invalid comand
[02:26] <devhen> Axe_: mount myiso.iso /mnt/iso/ -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0
[02:26] <lgespee> ladydoor, Axe_: mount -o loop -t iso9660 your.iso /mnt/isoimage
[02:26] <linuchsan> greg:apt-get install xawtv
[02:26] <brendonjt> lgespee:  it has network setup  and file transfers
[02:27] <lgespee> brendonjt: which version of XChat are you using, maybe it's a diff. between GnomeXChat
[02:27] <ladydoor> lgespee: aha
[02:27] <ladydoor> lgespee: sweet
[02:27] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: done, but it's rather uninteresting - just a bog standard one that dpkg creates
[02:27] <fiendskull9> hi
[02:27] <lgespee> does anybody of you know if upstart is going to be in Edgy main or not?
[02:27] <fiendskull9> i have two versions of glib installed, how can i remove the old one?
[02:28] <ladydoor> lgespee: you might check in #ubuntu+1
[02:28] <lgespee> Axe_: Google search -> Linux Mount Iso ;) tells you the answer
[02:28] <bh> ladydoor this downgrading might have work, thanks. :)
[02:28] <brendonjt> lgespee:  just found it it was in xchat->server_.edit etc etc
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: Did you post it to pastebin?
[02:28] <lgespee> ladydoor: ah right didn't know of the existence of that channel
[02:28] <ladydoor> bh: sweet
[02:28] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: yep
[02:28] <ladydoor> lgespee: neither did i until a few minutes ago
[02:28] <ali1234> Axe_: maybe try '-o loop'?
[02:28] <greg> scantv says no station for all
[02:28] <brendonjt> lgespee:  2.6.1
[02:28] <lgespee> ladydoor: haha
[02:28] <Axe_> yeah I did -o loop and it worked
[02:29] <linuchsan> greg:and dmesg
[02:29] <eXistenZ> !vim
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: I dont see any link to it.?
[02:29] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[02:29] <lgespee> brendonjt: I am using XChat-Gnome, I think that is the diference?
[02:29] <eXistenZ> !html
[02:29] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[02:29] <lgespee> * the difference (no ?) ;)
[02:29] <ladydoor> !xchat
[02:29] <fiendskull9> i have two versions of glib installed, how can i remove the old one?
[02:29] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[02:29] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21930
[02:29] <ladydoor> !xchat-gnome
[02:29] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 499 kB, installed size 4280 kB
[02:29] <brendonjt> lgespee:  yip xchat gnome crashed my system big time sheezz
[02:29] <eXistenZ> When will vim7 be added to the repos
[02:29] <greg> dsmeg says tuner type not set
[02:30] <lgespee> brendonjt: hmm strange, did you file a bugreport?
[02:30] <foo> What should I use for burning encrypted DVDs on ubuntu? k3b doesn't seem to do it.
[02:30] <ladydoor> eXistenZ: check the backports section of the forum
[02:30] <brendonjt> lgespee:  nope couldn't  as had to restart my  system  and then  it did something stupid with the partition table g
[02:30] <linuchsan> greg:lsmod |grep tuner
[02:30] <lgespee> brendonjt: I don't know about XChat, but have a good look, I think it will have the option somewhere
[02:31] <brendonjt> lgespee:  yip  i had found it lol
[02:31] <brendonjt> lgespee:  thanks for your help
[02:31] <lgespee> brendonjt: something stupid with the fstab, haha I know that problem ;)
[02:31] <lgespee> brendonjt: you're welcome, you found it yourself ;)
[02:31] <greg> greg@greg-desktop:~$ lsmod |grep tuner
[02:31] <greg> tuner                  42276  0
[02:31] <greg> i2c_core               21904  6 i2c_acpi_ec,tuner,tvaudio,bttv,tveeprom,i2c_algo_bit
[02:31] <fiendskull9> i have two versions of glib installed, how can i remove the old one?
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: How are you getting 1280 x 1024 when it is not a listed res in your xorg?
[02:32] <brendonjt> lgespee:  yip i have a fat32  drive had to edit that  so it could be mounted then when i rebooted after a update  i had 2 icons for the same drive
[02:32] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: I've turned that off
[02:32] <brendonjt> lgespee:  on my desktop
[02:32] <iJeff> fiendskull9: sudo apt-get remove glib-whatever
[02:32] <fiendskull9> iJeff: it then prompts me to remove 1500 packages
[02:32] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: It was working, but I removed it in dpkg-reconfigure
[02:32] <lgespee> brendonjt: don't use FAT ;)
[02:32] <linuchsan> greg: what does lspci say?
[02:32] <iJeff> fiendskill9: put it in pastebin?
[02:33] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: I posted clips from Xorg.log
[02:33] <fiendskull9> iJeff: alright, also, fie<tab> ;)
[02:33] <brendonjt> ok  so i take it i would have to go  mkfs /hdb1.ext3
[02:33] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: doesn't list 1152x864 as a supported VESA mode for the monitor, but does list 1152x870
[02:34] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: is it possible to override VESA modes, or else use 1152x870?
[02:34] <greg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21932
[02:34] <bm0nk> 7 burnt DVD's later
[02:34] <brendonjt> lgespee:  ok  so i take it i would have to go  mkfs /hdb1.ext3
[02:34] <bm0nk> and im back
[02:34] <Ademan> how does one go about creating a package?
[02:34] <lgespee> brendonjt: depends what you want to use the partition for, is it for sharing files between a Windows boot and an Ubuntu boot?
[02:35] <bm0nk> Anyone got that link on supported hardware? I need to check if my Medusa 5.1 USB Surround sound headphones will work with ubuntu :s
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: Did you add that res yourself?
[02:35] <relachs> can i tell linux to RE-READ the fstab?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: like you said the xorg log looks clean
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[02:35] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:35] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: not into xorg - just put it in now - will restart X and come back in a tick...
[02:35] <brendonjt> lgespee:  go operating system  on one drive and this just a slave  mp3's  downloads etc etc  as i have only got 2 10gb drives  lol
[02:35] <bm0nk> ty
[02:36] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: The graphics card should support that mode?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> doubtful
[02:36] <relachs> i made some changes to fstab and i dont see these when i start nautilus with sudo
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: But you added that res correct?
[02:36] <brendonjt> lgespee:  but my specs are a amd 2600+ athalon 512mb ram  lol
[02:36] <lgespee> brendonjt: what do you mean with an "go" operating system?
[02:36] <relachs> so can i reread the /etc/fstab so i dont have to restart?
[02:36] <micahcowan> relachs, sudo mount -a
[02:36] <brendonjt> lgespee:  "got"
[02:36] <fiendskull9> iJeff: http://pastebin.ca/152647
[02:37] <vik> 1152x870? I haven't added it manually as yet
[02:37] <lgespee> brendonjt: if you only use it under Ubuntu don't go with FAT
[02:37] <greg> :(
[02:37] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: it turns up in the log due to a VESA query of the monitor I think
[02:37] <lgespee> brendonjt: ah right "got" :p, well if it is just for data and you don't need to share it with another operating system on your pc, then use ext3 for example
[02:37] <iJeff> fiendskull9: and apt-get remove returns what?
[02:37] <linuchsan> greg: hauppauge card?
[02:37] <bm0nk> Jack_Sparrow : This is the deciding point on whether or not i can switch to Ubuntu.......these USB surround headphones HAVE to work with ubuntu
[02:38] <bm0nk> I can't have them not working :(
[02:38] <greg> yes
[02:38] <brendonjt> lgespee:  yeah  i thought about that  if i format it i would have to edit the fstab file as well ae
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> bm0nk:  If that is how you choose an OS... good luck,
[02:38] <fiendskull9> iJeff: http://pastebin.ca/152649
[02:38] <relachs> micahcowan: still dont see it, only when i start nautilus with user rights
[02:38] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: gonna restart X
[02:38] <bm0nk> Jack_Sparrow : Ahaha, No I meant that....that was the only problem with switching
[02:39] <ndee> hello there, whenever I'm using skype, I cannot use my mp3 player(banshee). It seems like when one program is using the audio device, another one cannot "use" it. Is there a way to solve that problem?
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> bm0nk: That was not how you phrased it..
[02:39] <bm0nk> Jack_Sparrow : Just the fact that this is the only piece of hardware I know will be a bit oo-er
[02:39] <brendonjt> how secure is skype?
[02:39] <ladydoor> ndee: that's been a persistent problem with the alsamixer...
[02:39] <bm0nk> I know i say one thing and mean another sometimes
[02:39] <ndee> ladydoor: is there a workaround yet?
[02:39] <ladydoor> ndee: and if anybody knows how to solve it, have them tell me too!
[02:40] <ndee> okay ;)
[02:40] <bm0nk> my gut feeling says i'll have a rough time with this headset
[02:40] <lgespee> brendonjt: yes if you reformat it you will have to edit the fstab, but it's worth it
[02:40] <micahcowan> relachs, can you paste your fstab, and indicate what the changes you made are?
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> bm0nk: I need to get ready to go out with the wife.  Keep working on it.
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> lGoodnight all.
[02:41] <brendonjt> lgespee:  hmm  it took me a while  to do that  before lol
[02:41] <Xenguy> yarrrr
[02:41] <bm0nk> Jack_Sparrow : Thankyou :)
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:41] <brendonjt> lgespee:  hmm  it took me while to figure all the commands out for that before lol
[02:41] <Dimensions> hi can some one help me in kppp connection via mobile gprs modem ?
[02:41] <lgespee> brendonjt: well the best thing is to read a bit about the fstab if you are going to edit it
[02:42] <greg> why wont it work?
[02:42] <relachs> micahcowan: http://pastebin.ca/152651
[02:42] <raven2> does anyone know how to remove Gnome FTP links from the desktop ?  they don't have a move to trash option (it is greyed out)
[02:42] <brendonjt> lgespee:  true  got some help from the wiki on that one lol
[02:42] <lgespee> brendonjt: you can try the built in discs application in Ubuntu
[02:42] <lgespee> brendonjt: System -> Administration -> Discs
[02:43] <greg> :(
[02:43] <ali1234> raven2: right click, select "unmount" (i think)
[02:43] <lgespee> well have a nice day, night, according to your timezone ;), I am going to sleep now, bye
[02:43] <brendonjt> lgespee:  ok  is that better  than using the term based one?
[02:43] <ali1234> raven2: or maybe "disconnect"
[02:43] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: no luck, Xorg.0.log gives (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
[02:44] <iJeff> fiendskull9: looks like a lot of applications use that version of glib as a dependency.. sorry I'm stumped then ><
[02:44] <lgespee> ladydoor: instead of Ubuntu+1 I had to go to Ubuntu-devel ;) but thanks anyway to help me into the corrent direction one step
[02:44] <lgespee> bye
[02:44] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: how can I add my own modelines like in the old days?
[02:44] <raven2> ali1234: thank you
[02:45] <raven2> that worked
[02:45] <ShoeUnited> !alsa
[02:45] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:45] <cracka12> um is there a default password set to ubuntu server cause i dont remember it asking me for a root password unless i was stupid an missed it
[02:46] <jbroome> !root
[02:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:46] <cracka12> THANK YOU
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> vik: Something is not right... your xorg is showing 1152 x 864 but you say not using mode 1152 x 870  which is not even in your xorg...  I need to leave, maybe someone else can help you.
[02:47] <fiveiron> anyone know if there is an app to open mac osx icon files?
[02:47] <techniq> other than CUPS, is there another server/etc that would tie up /dev/lp0... I'm trying to directly access it via 'cu' and keep receiving Permission Denied/Line in use (even after stopping CUPS)
[02:47] <vik> Jack_Sparrow: thanks anyway
[02:47] <techniq> server = service btw
[02:47] <jbroome> are you using sudo?
[02:47] <greg> linuchsan:any idea whats wrong?
[02:47] <ali1234> techniq: parport module perhaps
[02:48] <ali1234> although unlikely
[02:48] <techniq> ali1234, parport(_pc) are both loaded
[02:48] <techniq> do I need to unload them
[02:48] <ali1234> techniq: yep
[02:49] <pluton> i need help for download drivers camara webcam
[02:49] <ladydoor> !webcam
[02:49] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:49] <techniq> ali1234, when I try to unload parport_pc, it says its in use...
[02:49] <techniq> what does parport do btw...
[02:50] <greg> why isnt installing tv tunercard easy
[02:50] <ndee> ladydoor: Have you downloaded the latest skype beta?
[02:50] <techniq> nevermind.. I just had to unload lp, ppdev, parport, parport_pc (in that order)
[02:50] <ali1234> techniq: parport/pc parport gives you access o the raw pins of the parport for stuff like bit banging chip programmers etc. it is not needed for printers which use a higher level protocol
[02:50] <ladydoor> ndee: what's skype?
[02:50] <ladydoor> ndee: (no)
[02:50] <ladydoor> ndee: but seriously, what's skype?
[02:51] <ndee> voip software
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> voip
[02:51] <archaios> how do i su in unbutu
[02:51] <jbroome> propritary voip
[02:51] <JoseStefan> !sudo > archaios
[02:51] <techniq> ali1234, its not needed for say media access for a Cisco (like a serial connectoin for a Cisco router, but via the parallel port)
[02:51] <ladydoor> ndee: what's voip?
[02:52] <xevil> archaios: use sudo
[02:52] <fiveiron> lol
[02:52] <jbroome> voice over ip
[02:52] <archaios> is sudo more secure
[02:52] <ali1234> techniq: could be
[02:52] <jbroome> ip == internet protocol
[02:52] <xevil> yes
[02:52] <fiveiron> i need to set up an asterisk server
[02:52] <greg> why doesnt my tunercard work on linux>
[02:52] <ladydoor> aha
[02:53] <greg> anyone physic ?
[02:53] <greg> everything else isnt working
[02:53] <ali1234> greg: hauppauge probably changed the tuner chip (again)
[02:53] <ladydoor> greg: i'm *psychic* but not physic
[02:53] <xevil> greg: I knew you would ask that :)
[02:54] <jbroome> i do the least amount of physic as possible
[02:54] <greg> lol
[02:54] <archaios> what is a PAM
[02:54] <pluton> the camera is modelo xtech
[02:54] <techniq> ali1234, hmm.. as soon as I reloaded the 'lp' module, parport/parport_pc were reloaded, and still getting permission denied
[02:55] <greg> all i want is to watch tv on ;inux
[02:55] <ladydoor> archaios: it's short for PAMELA
[02:55] <greg> linux*
[02:55] <jbroome> password authenticated module
[02:55] <ali1234> techniq: maybe the dependancy is the other way around
[02:55] <archaios> mp3-select the grates - spoke in the eye
[02:56] <ali1234> techniq: maybe it's just a permission thing?
[02:56] <micahcowan> relachs, does a sudo mount /dev/hda8 work? (sorry it took me so long)
[02:56] <ali1234> techniq: i'm out of ideas anyway
[02:56] <greg> anyone any ideas?
[02:56] <archaios> mp3-select Prodigy - smack my bitch up
[02:56] <techniq> ali1234, no problem, appreciate the help (btw, I don't think its a permission prob as I'm run it as root...)
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I didnt think linux supported that many partitions on a drive?
[02:57] <brendonjt> micahcowan:  you have to specify a mount point
[02:57] <archaios> HELLO
[02:57] <relachs> micahcowan: yea i got it mounted already, the problem was i couldnt see it in nautilus with root-right, a reboot solved it.
[02:57] <greg> k timed to get baned again
[02:57] <micahcowan> brendonjt, not when it's in fstab, you don't.
[02:57] <greg> whores
[02:57] <brendonjt> micahcowan:  ok  me bad
[02:57] <micahcowan> relachs, :( sorry I couldn't help you do it without reboot. That's kind of strange...
[02:57] <archaios> can someone give me advice on writing my own kernel security module that effectively disables all capabilities unless public-key authentication is used a la a securityfs interface for Ubuntu?
[02:57] <brendonjt> greg: that's not very nice
[02:57] <jolt> Im back. nothing like an edgy build eating Grub for lunch
[02:58] <ladydoor> jolt: mm-mmm! grub-tastic
[02:58] <greg> sryy i mean man whores
[02:58] <jolt> Fortunately i had a Uboot Cd around
[02:59] <archaios> does anyone have an answer for my question?
[02:59] <archaios> even a tenuous one?
[02:59] <ladydoor> greg: if you want help, seriously don't go insulting people. try posting on ubuntuforums.org
[02:59] <relachs> micahcowan: yea? how? mount -a didnt solve it
[02:59] <archaios> surely there must be kernel hackers around here
[02:59] <greg> nah
[02:59] <brendonjt> greg: that's still not very nice  why  you up in arms about
[02:59] <greg> im gonna uninstall ubuntu
[02:59] <ladydoor> greg: also, i'm not a man
[02:59] <micahcowan> relachs, how what? I just said I'm sorry I wasn't able to save you a reboot.
[03:00] <archaios> someone told me to run
[03:00] <archaios> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[03:00] <ladydoor> greg: also: threatening to uninstall ubuntu has no effect on any of us
[03:00] <archaios> earlier
[03:00] <archaios> and that would help me
[03:00] <archaios> but
[03:00] <archaios> it wiped my partition table
[03:00] <archaios> :(
[03:00] <greg> its not a threat
[03:00] <ladydoor> greg: whatever. bye now
[03:00] <nrdb> sometime in the last couple of days my sound card has become unaccessable, I know the card itself is working, the volume icon on the panel has cross through it, can someone help me getting it going again?
[03:00] <ladydoor> he was sweet
[03:00] <brendonjt> greg: what  is your problem  explain  so we can help you
[03:00] <brendonjt> ladydoor:  he was a nut
[03:01] <archaios> ladydoor, let us embrace and talk about the intimate details of the oom_kill implementation
[03:01] <amgad> guys, i missed up my sudoers file, it has a parse error, vusudo doesn't work, what should i do
[03:01] <StoneNote> ohhhhhhhhh nooooooooooo. greg is uninstalling ubuntu.  OSS is doomed. DOOMED I tell you.  If we've lost greg, we've lost the country!
[03:01] <relachs> micahcowan: ah ok, i just wonder if you couldn't help because you was some time afk but you know how to prevent reboot, or that you just dont know why ubuntu behaves like this :-)
[03:01] <brendonjt> amgad:  did you back it up before you played with it
[03:01] <archaios> hello?
[03:01] <archaios> is there anyone here
[03:01] <amgad> brendonjt, no :(
[03:01] <archaios> you're all ignoring me
[03:01] <conner> amgad, shutdown and come up in "recovery" mode. Then you can edit all the files.
[03:02] <amgad> conner, ok, great, thanks
[03:02] <brendonjt> archaios:nope  wots up
[03:02] <micahcowan> relachs, well, given time, I'm pretty sure I could've saved you a reboot. If it was successfully mounted, it seems like at least logging out and in again should've fixed it. Ah well...
[03:02] <nozorro> nrdb: first turn on *all* controls in the Volume Control (first enable them all from Edit/Preferences)
[03:02] <linuxcrazy> hwo do I make AIM start with gnome?
[03:02] <nownott> how can i install and use compiz packeges from gnome-look.org
[03:02] <micahcowan> relachs, now, as to whether said amount of time would've been less than the time it takes to reboot, well... :-)
[03:03] <disasm> linuxcrazy: system preferences sessions
[03:03] <archaios> :(){:|:&};:
[03:03] <relachs> micahcowan:  :-)
[03:03] <nrdb> nozorro: the sound icon on the panel won't do any thing :(
[03:03] <disasm> linuxcrazy: click add, and type gaim, i use that to start freevo on my media computer ;-)
[03:04] <nozorro> nrdb: how do you mean 'won't do anything': after clicking or double-clicking?
[03:04] <MetaMorfoziS> joccak al 1:30 mulva kelek
[03:05] <nownott> how can i install and use compiz packeges from gnome-look.org
[03:05] <Dimensions> any one knows how can i use my mobile fone as gprs modem
[03:06] <nrdb> nozorro: if I right click then select 'preferences' nothing happens :( it I right click then select 'Open Volume control' I get a message "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[03:06] <relachs> micahcowan: i just edited it again because i could not edit the rights (i want to make it possible for users to write on the partition). So i edited the fstab again (set parameters as suggested in another channel) but i still can't set the rights. Wonder if it will work if i reboot ;-)
[03:06] <ali1234> Dimensions: yeah, it's pretty easy :)
[03:06] <ali1234> Dimensions: first, get a serial cable for your phone, if you lke the easy life
[03:06] <disasm> nrdb: is the module loaded?
[03:06] <billybennett> anyone give me a quick rundown on how to make a symlink
[03:06] <ali1234> Dimensions: bluetooth is much harder
[03:06] <Dimensions> ahh ... not for me ali1234 i have been trying from last two weeks ... with different methods
[03:06] <Dimensions> i am using usb Ali
[03:07] <nrdb> nozorro: the problem might have occured when I tried to install a 'flash' player, I don't know.
[03:07] <micahcowan> relachs, dunno, but have you tried unmounting, remounting?
[03:07] <ali1234> Dimensions: okay. well, did you get as far as getting a serial device that accepts AT commands?
[03:07] <disasm> nownott: apt-get install compiz-gnome (need universe/multiverse)
[03:07] <relachs> micahcowan: mhh no, just -a
[03:07] <nrdb> disasm: how do I find out what module is meant to be loaded?
[03:07] <disasm> billybennett: ln -s /path/to/source /path/to/link
[03:07] <micahcowan> relachs, fstab doesn't do anything until the given device is actually mounted. If it's already mounted, it won't take effect.
[03:08] <nozorro> nrdb: and sound went away just like that. Did you change any hardware recently? What happens if you enter 'gnome-volume-control' in a terminal?
[03:08] <jn-> is anyone using ubuntu with wifi that utilizes wpa? i know about gnome-network-manager but i dont use gnome, what are my alternatives?
[03:08] <Dimensions> how i am suppose to check that ali1234 btw i have four different phones all with usb cables and bluetooth so i can use any
[03:08] <ShoeUnited> Hey there.
[03:08] <disasm> nrdb: lspci can help, best to know your chipset from mobo docs
[03:08] <ShoeUnited> I'm having problems getting my sound to work.  :/
[03:08] <jn-> i also know about adding the wpa lines to a file, but that method craps out if you go out of a session
[03:08] <nrdb> lspci says " Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller]  (rev 03)"
[03:08] <ali1234> Dimensions: look for /dev/*/ttyUSB0 or similar
[03:08] <jn-> ,wpa
[03:08] <jn-> !wpa
[03:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:09] <ali1234> Dimensions: also check dmesg when you plug it in
[03:09] <ShoeUnited> How do I add PCM audio to my .asoundrc file?
[03:09] <disasm> nrdb: that's not an opl3sa is it?
[03:09] <eetfunk> stupid question... how can i unzip from the command line?  tar doesnt work because my zip has more than 1 entry
[03:09] <ShoeUnited> !pcm
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <nrdb> nozorro: lots of errors first one "cannot find card 0"
[03:09] <jn-> eetfunk: "unzip"
[03:09] <eetfunk> jn-: doesnt work
[03:09] <jn-> eetfunk: sudo apt-get install unzip
[03:09] <eetfunk> ok, apt-get :)
[03:10] <ShoeUnited> Is there an apt-get for my alsa drivers?
[03:10] <ShoeUnited> Since PCM doesn't seem to be installed.  :/
[03:10] <Dimensions> ali1234:  with dmesg i got this ... usbcore: registered new driver cdc_acm
[03:10] <Dimensions> drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c : v0.23:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters
[03:10] <ShoeUnited> !alsa
[03:10] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[03:10] <nrdb> disasm: lsmod 'snd' has "snd_ymfpci,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device"
[03:11] <disasm> nrdb: snd-ymfpci
[03:11] <disasm> nrdb: ah, i'm just behind you ;-)
[03:11] <InvisiblePinkUni> whats the difference b/w a wireless PCI card and a wireless PCI LAN?
[03:11] <ali1234> Dimensions: sounds good. look for the device in /dev
[03:11] <disasm> nrdb: run alsamixer in a terminal
[03:11] <Dimensions> ali1234:  how im suppose to know which device its connected to in there ?
[03:12] <pluton> where can download the drivers for a camera webcam mark xtech
[03:12] <nrdb> disasm: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[03:12] <disasm> InvisiblePinkUni: my guess would be the same, make sure chipset is supported by linux kernel
[03:12] <ali1234> Dimensions: look up the major/minor block numbers for cdc_acm and then look for a device with those numbers
[03:12] <InvisiblePinkUni> disasm: ok... thanks
[03:12] <disasm> nrdb: very interesting...
[03:13] <pc1> where is the softwer the webcam
[03:13] <killown> how I configure apt-get for download mplayer package?
[03:13] <disasm> nrdb: just out of curiosity, have you rebooted? (not that you need to reboot, just want to see if flushing modules and reloading would be useless)
[03:13] <jn-> anyone use wpasupplicant?
[03:13] <killown> help me
[03:13] <ali1234> Dimensions: says on this page i found, it will be /dev/ttyACM
[03:13] <ali1234> jn-: i used it
[03:13] <nrdb> disasm: yes, I rebooted into a basic suse to check the card, and then came back to this setup.
[03:13] <disasm> jn-: i've tried it, never got too far though, ended up just writing individual scripts to connect to secured networks...
[03:14] <disasm> nrdb: it worked in SuSE?
[03:14] <killown> help me
[03:14] <killown> how I configure apt-get for download mplayer package?
[03:14] <linuxcrazy> sure
[03:14] <linuxcrazy> killdown
[03:14] <nrdb> disasm: yes, I couldn't test well, but it made the startup sound. :)
[03:14] <disasm> killown: depends on your use for mplayer
[03:14] <linuxcrazy> get on a #hempmekilldown
[03:15] <disasm> killown: if you need codecs, you need special repos, otherwise the native mplayer in ubuntu (universe maybe?) should work
[03:15] <Buuh> hi
[03:15] <Buuh> where can I ask for a font related problem?
[03:15] <killown> disasm, what repository?
[03:16] <killown> anyone send me repository with mplayer package?
[03:16] <disasm> nrdb: hmmm... maybe a corrupt module, possibly try upgrading/reinstalling the kernel package...
[03:16] <jrib> killown: put the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link please
[03:16] <jbroome> looks like it's in multiverse
[03:16] <killown> ok jrib
[03:17] <linuxcrazy> all you have to do is add multiverse on the universe lines
[03:17] <swim> hey folks, what application do you use to watch streaming nsv files?
[03:17] <linuxcrazy> very simple
[03:17] <marco__> ubotu, su
[03:17] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:17] <ShoeUnited> I don't have an .asoundrc  file O.O
[03:17] <marco__> ubotu, su
[03:17] <rever> Hi recently disabled esd now all system sounds do not work. Gnome use to have a Multimedia Selection in System => Preferences but it is no longer there.
[03:17] <ShoeUnited> please someone help me. :(
[03:17] <marco__> wtf
[03:17] <killown> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21933
[03:17] <marco__> ubotu is racist against su?
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is racist against su? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <rever> Where can I set defaul system sound to ALSA?
[03:17] <nozorro> nrdb: are you sure you didn't remove any gstreamer*-packages in the process of installing flash etc ?
[03:18] <disasm> ShoeUnited: clarify what you're asking
[03:18] <marco__> shoud I use su or sudo?
[03:18] <linuxcrazy> @lart himself
[03:18] <Buuh> I've installed ubuntu in a fujitsu C series and it went okay but the fonts in gnome are "ugly". How can I fix this problem?
[03:18] <disasm> marco__: sudo
[03:18] <sagarp> im trying to set up WPA...but i don't have a /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant file...is that normal?
[03:18] <rever> marco_, sudo
[03:18] <marco__> disasm, rever, why?
[03:18] <killown> jrib, ?
[03:19] <nrdb> nozorro: it did install some, but I didn't tell it to remove any.
[03:19] <rever> marco Root account is disabled you cannot use su b/c no root account password set. AFAIK
[03:19] <disasm> marco__: cause it's the ubuntu standard, you can use su, but not very highly recommended to set the root passowrd
[03:19] <pluton> help for download drivers the camera webcam mark xteck
[03:19] <andrewski> is there any way to take two hard drives and have them act in tandem at the same mountpoint?  for example, i have two 80G hard drives that i'd like to use together under /music
[03:19] <andrewski> !sudo > marco__
[03:20] <rever> marco_, You can use sudo -s to get to a # if you want.
[03:20] <marco__> disasm, that's not a good explanation
[03:20] <linuxcrazy> anyopne install XGL on Ubuntu?
[03:20] <linuxcrazy> how do you do it?
[03:20] <jrib> killown: do you know how to edit that file?
[03:20] <swim> hey folks, what application do you use to watch streaming nsv files?
[03:20] <marco__> disasm, that's like saying "well, you can't jack off because big brother says you can't"
[03:20] <swim> video
[03:20] <pfred1> hey how i get rid of gnome in Ubuntu?
[03:20] <marco__> apt-get remove gnome
[03:20] <nrdb> nozorro: by kernel package did you mean 'alsa-base' ?
[03:20] <disasm> marco__: it's one less password you need to remember, i'm a bad arguer for it though, I run sudo passwd first thing
[03:20] <rever> linuxcrazy, you need to add the repo's
[03:20] <killown> jrib yes
[03:20] <pfred1> no I just want to change the window manager
[03:21] <ali1234> swim: mplayer can do it, with the right codecs
[03:21] <Axe_> How can I make a folder hidden
[03:21] <andrewski> pfred1: there's a good forum post on that.  want me to look for it or you got it?
[03:21] <Buuh> I've installed ubuntu in a fujitsu C series and it went okay but the fonts in gnome are "ugly" (badly rendered). How can I fix this problem?
[03:21] <sethk> marco_, actually, there is absolutely nothing in ubuntu different about su vs. sudo than any other linux distro
[03:21] <manitoba98> Ubuntu defiantly refuses to use my USB mouse and PS/2 keyboard. When booting either from the LiveCD, or hard disk (I had installed a while ago; it was working then). In both cases, partway through the "Mounting root filesystem..." phase, my optical mouse goes dark, and my keyboard, while the lights remain on, is totally ignored. The same thing occurs in single-user mode. I don't think I've made any significant 
[03:21] <killown> jrib I know
[03:21] <pfred1> doesn't seem like ubuntu honors ~/.xinitrc
[03:21] <sethk> marco_, and it isn't even true that the developers don't intend the root password to be set
[03:21] <andrewski> Buuh: have you looked at the font preferences in GNOME?
[03:21] <jrib> killown: add the word " multiverse" to the end of all the lines that have "universe" but no "multiverse" (lines 21,22,37, and 38) then 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:21] <killown> jrib, how I do?
[03:21] <andrewski> Buuh: system > preferences > font
[03:21] <marco__> sethk, then why isn't it set?
[03:21] <Buuh> andrewski: yes, it doesn't help
[03:21] <swim> ali1234: right but mplayer isnt in the repos at the moment
[03:21] <sethk> marco_, if you install in expert mode, for example, you'll be prompted for the root password
[03:21] <Dimensions> ali1234: im sorry i couldn't get what u said ... abt major/minor numbers in cdc
[03:21] <andrewski> Buuh: what do you have set there currently?
[03:21] <killown> ok thanks jrib
[03:22] <sethk> marco_, It isn't set for one, and only one, installation option choice.
[03:22] <ali1234> Dimensions: look for /dev/ttyACM
[03:22] <sethk> marco_, and of course it can be set at any time
[03:22] <Buuh> andrewski: best shapes. With sub pixel it's the same
[03:22] <jrib> killown: also, lines 40-44 are redundant.  They are the same as lines 5-6
[03:22] <fabsoft> anyone has a hfc-pci card that works with misdn?
[03:22] <ali1234> swim: sure it is
[03:22] <disasm> marco__: this is what ubuntu has to say: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:22] <swim> nope
[03:22] <andrewski> Buuh: which font are you using?
[03:22] <Dimensions> ali1234: there is no ttyACM in /dev
[03:22] <rever> marco_, You will also need to edit your gdm or kdm config to allow root login if I remember correctly. Again not a good idea though.
[03:22] <Buuh> andrewski: Sans
[03:23] <swim> ali1234: i really dont think it is
[03:23] <andrewski> Buuh: have you tried any others?
[03:23] <sethk> marco_,  anyone can add to a wiki.  the fact that it's in the wiki doesn't imply that it is endorsed by the developers
[03:23] <ali1234> Dimensions: then look in /dev/tts/
[03:23] <pfred1> also I installed the windowmaker package but it does not seem to have wmaker.inst with it
[03:23] <nozorro> nrdb: well i didn't mention *kernel* packages, but yes, you'll need alsa-base
[03:23] <Buuh> andrewski: yes, ihey alway render badly. As if there was no anti-aliasing
[03:23] <ali1234> !mplayer
[03:23] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[03:23] <Dimensions> ali1234:  there is no tts directory either... :(
[03:23] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:23] <nrdb> nozorro: I just noticed that I have the linux-386 package installed. I have a "Pentium III" should I install the 'kernel-686' package?
[03:24] <sethk> marco_, that said, using sudo is frequently a good idea, although not always
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> command:
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> from nv to nvidia.
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> nick@nick-desktop:~$ md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> 26dd2f922b248490103435610fd7a447  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:24] <pfred1> yeah mplayer old it looks in win32
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> nick@nick-desktop:~$
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> what do I do
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> sorry for the flood
[03:24] <nrdb> nozorro: I allready have 'alsa-base' should I reinstall it?
[03:24] <andrewski> linuxcrazy: don't do that.
[03:24] <sethk> marco_, brb
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> sorry
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> what do I do?!
[03:24] <swim> ali1234: i have multiverse repo...
[03:24] <pfred1> the mplayer package that ships with debian and ubuntu
[03:24] <jrib> linuxcrazy: your error answers your question
[03:25] <ali1234> swim: me too. i installed mplayer from it
[03:25] <pfred1> yeah my mplayer working OK
[03:25] <swim> ali1234: right but not recently I bet
[03:25] <pfred1> not a custom cvs build but it works
[03:25] <linuxcrazy> what errors?
[03:25] <ali1234> swim: about 3 days ago
[03:25] <linuxcrazy> I did the md5sum
[03:25] <andrewski> Buuh: h/o a sec
[03:25] <NewtoUbuntu> im bored and need something to do any1 need any help or have an idea of a way to pass the time on the comp? will some1 tell me some good links to read up on ubuntu besides the wiki and ubuntu websites?
[03:25] <Buuh> andrewski: ok
[03:25] <linuxcrazy> and I then do the nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:25] <nozorro> nrdb: you may do so, but it should be unrelated to your sound problem. -- If you do a 'ls /proc/asound' in a terminal, does a shorthand to your soundcard appear (YMF*)?
[03:25] <pfred1> anhwho how i get rid of this smelly foot fungus off my X session?
[03:25] <linuxcrazy> and it still won't work
[03:26] <ali1234> Dimensions: make the device node manually. see man mknod
[03:26] <blackwire83> NewtoUbuntu: if you're bored, develop some good needed stuff
[03:26] <ShoeUnited> !mplayer
[03:26] <pfred1> gnome some good apps crappy ui
[03:26] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[03:26] <andrewski> Buuh: try the instructions here and let me know how it goes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto#head-eb5854982e9b62ae1e5c6b38731816a3b5b04639
[03:26] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:26] <jolt> you can do a sudo to make a root password
[03:26] <Buuh> andrewski: oki
[03:26] <jolt> or login single user
[03:26] <killown>  libpolyp0 I not found it
[03:26] <NewtoUbuntu> ok blackwire38 any idea on where to start thats a pretty broad topic
[03:26] <jilocasin> evening all
[03:26] <pfred1> hmm yeah I wonder what init 1 will do init 3 don't do jack
[03:27] <nrdb> nozorro: yes the is a link from "YMF724F -> card0"
[03:27] <jilocasin> can anyone point me in the right direction for info on restoring GRUB?
[03:27] <ali1234> Dimensions: sudo mknod /dev/ttyACM0 c 166 0
[03:27] <jolt> Is there a way to upgrade the grub in another partition so if it cant find the new one i can still boot?
[03:27] <trpr> NewtoUbuntu: start a project. pick a problem and solve it with a program.. then give it to the rest of us ;)
[03:27] <nozorro> nrdb: Does your card appear if you do a 'cat /proc/asound/cards'?
[03:28] <pfred1> only problem i have is changing my session manager
[03:28] <nrdb> jolt: try make a boot floppy with "mkboot"
[03:28] <miked> can anyone suggest a softphone that can connect through a sip proxy that works with ubuntu 6.0.6?
[03:28] <pfred1> the PC i installed ubuntu on doesn't have the horsepower to run something as overweight as gnome
[03:28] <Dimensions> ali1234:  thank you, i now got ttyACM now what should i do ?
[03:28] <nrdb> nozorro: yes
[03:28] <ali1234> miked: ekiga softphone? it's installed by default...
[03:28] <jolt> /usr/sbin/mkboot: line 20: [: proc: unary operator expected
[03:28] <NewtoUbuntu> Ok first ill need to read up a little more on how to do such things trpr any idea where to go to read? learning to use ubuntus fun :)
[03:28] <killown>  libpolyp0 I not found it
[03:28] <killown> ??
[03:29] <killown> I not found it in apt-cache search libpolyp0
[03:29] <miked> ali1234: yeah i can't get it to work for some reason
[03:29] <miked> but it works on windows
[03:29] <jolt> pfred: try kubuntu
[03:29] <pfred1> NewtoUbuntu not really for me it is an overgrown plug in ipod
[03:29] <ali1234> Dimensions: install picocom or something, and try to send AT commands
[03:29] <linuxcrazy> help!
[03:29] <linuxcrazy> how do I install the nvidia-driver?
[03:29] <NewtoUbuntu> Are u sure u meant to say that to me pfred1?
[03:29] <ali1234> Dimensions: if that works, then your problem is reduced to setting up a normal ppp connection, but with a special gprs phone number
[03:30] <pfred1> NewtoUbuntu didn't you just say learning how to use ubuntu is fun?
[03:30] <jilocasin> Can anyone tell me what's up with the 'www.ubuntuforums.org' page
[03:30] <miked> #ekiga
[03:30] <ali1234> Dimensions: that number varies with phone type and provider
[03:30] <Onimae> So, XgL/Compiz is really cool.
[03:30] <NewtoUbuntu> o lol ok i see what u mean now pfred1
[03:30] <jolt> get the nvidia-glx package (if your nvidia is relatively current)... then reboot and then change the xorg.conf to nvidia instead of nv in the listing... remember you must sudo or root to edit this file.. may want to back it up first
[03:30] <andrewski> pfred1: certainly moreso than learning some other OSes, n'est-ce pas?
[03:30] <pfred1> intrico yeah but desktop PCs are free
[03:30] <NewtoUbuntu> im off to read up
[03:30] <intrico> and so is gnome
[03:30] <pfred1> intrico don't mean i want gnome
[03:31] <manitoba98> Any idea why Ubuntu would turn off my USB optical mouse and PS/2 keyboard during the "Mounting root filesystem" stage on both the LiveCD and installed system? (Even in recovery mode!)
[03:31] <jolt> Heh dont even try the glx drive if your running edgy however... your ui buttons will vanish
[03:31] <pfred1> intrico shit on the sidewalk is free don't mean i pick up every steaming heap I run across
[03:31] <neuroe> help
[03:31] <nozorro> nrdb: Can you start and control 'alsamixer' in a terminal?
[03:31] <killown> I not found it in apt-cache search libpolyp0 anuone helpme
[03:31] <neuroe> hello
[03:31] <neuroe> i mean
[03:31] <trpr> NewtoUbuntu: hrm. well i guess if your coding skills are already pretty solid, you should start by reading up on the standardized way to do stuff. http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/
[03:31] <intrico> But feces are not sexy
[03:31] <intrico> Gnome is sexy!
[03:31] <neuroe> how do i make xmms open .pls files instead of xine
[03:31] <intrico> heheh
[03:31] <pfred1> intrico ah I seen whole usenet groups that'd debate you on that fine point ...
[03:32] <DrSpin> So I confogured Samba with a share on my Desktop --
[03:32] <Ricesteam> I'm trying to learn CLI, specifically I want to unzip several files using one command.  I tried "7z x *.zip" but it doesn't work...
[03:32] <intrico> You have a point, lol
[03:32] <ShoeUnited> alt.binaries.scatology
[03:32] <nrdb> nozorro: I just reinstalled 'alsa-base' didn't seem to make any difference, alsa-mixer won't start.
[03:32] <pfred1> ShoeUnited quite
[03:32] <ali1234> Ricesteam: use unzip
[03:32] <intrico> are you sure that wasn't a "pleasure" shudder ShoeUnited?
[03:32] <jepler> Ricesteam: does 7z accept several .zip files on the commandline?  Traditional 'unzip' doesn't.
[03:32] <sagarp> i've installed wpasupplicant, but there's no file /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant, is that bad?
[03:32] <intrico> heheh
[03:32] <ali1234> Ricesteam: for i in `ls *.zip`; do unzip $i; done
[03:32] <ShoeUnited> Quite.
[03:32] <pfred1> ahywho i just want to drop out of gnome and run windowmaker how i do that in ubuntu?
[03:33] <jepler> ali1234: surely you mean:  for i in *.zip; do ...
[03:33] <ShoeUnited> Nightmares from the group... Nightmares...
[03:33] <ali1234> jepler: yeah sure :)
[03:33] <neighborlee> hi..rescue mode isn't working ( can't get to /boot) and wondering what to do ? ( dont have any other disks atm)
[03:33] <jepler> ali1234: what is that extra `ls` supposed to do, besides foul up some filenames?
[03:33] <lesbian_vampire_> bah
[03:33] <neuroe> pfred1, just log out after you have installed it and there is a sesion button, choose your sesion to load
[03:33] <Hail_Spacecake> damn nick shortening
[03:33] <pfred1> being as I have no wmaker.inst and !/.xinitrc seems to be ignored
[03:33] <DrSpin> I'm trying to connect to a share on a windows machine within my subnet and I keep getting a message about "... not listening on called name." Anyoune wanna take a guess??
[03:33] <Ricesteam> how come *.zip does not work?
[03:33] <pfred1> neuroe hmm might be missing that with auto login
[03:34] <ShoeUnited> !essentials
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <Crescendo> When my hard drive seeks, I get static on my speakers.  What would be a cause for this?
[03:34] <ShoeUnited> !codecs
[03:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:34] <pfred1> neuroe I'll have to check it out
[03:34] <Dimensions> ali1234: i have got setting for gprs and my other friend some times back did it at office with pppd he just copied gprs and gprsmodem.chat files and then gave call to gprs and got connected it doesn't work for me though
[03:34] <Ricesteam> For eg, I can cp *.zip to another location
[03:34] <DrSpin> Crescendo: DMA maybe?
[03:34] <jepler> Ricesteam: if you run "7z x a.zip b.zip" does that work?  If "7z x" is like traditional "unzip" it doesn't (unzip treats b.zip as a file to find inside a.zip)
[03:34] <ali1234> Dimensions: you must tell pppd which device to use. /dev/ttyACM in this case
[03:34] <ali1234> Dimensions: just edit the /etc/ppp/peers/gprs (if thats what you have)
[03:34] <neuroe> yea i guess you'll have to uncheck autologin, pfred1, you're going to have to configure a lot of stuff before another window manager is usefull
[03:35] <ali1234> Dimensions: but the settings can vary with different phones, even on same provider
[03:35] <Crescendo> DrSpin, Direct Memory Access?
[03:35] <QC_PASSED> can sombody point me to a tut on how to install broadcom wifi drivers?
[03:35] <Dimensions> ali1234:  if i only edit gprs and gprsmodem.chat is it going to work for me ?
[03:35] <pfred1> neuroe han the funny button on the top right did the trick
[03:35] <killown> I not found it in apt-cache search libpolyp0 anuone helpme
[03:35] <jolt> Good luck on the broadcomm
[03:35] <QC_PASSED> hah
[03:35] <pfred1> now to get rid of this fugly debian desktop background
[03:35] <QC_PASSED> thanks
[03:35] <Hail_Spacecake> if wlan0 shows up in iwconfig, does that mean that ndiswrapper is working properly?
[03:35] <ali1234> Dimensions: assuming you can send 'AT' to /dev/ttyACM and get back 'OK' then yes, it can work
[03:35] <neuroe> i've tried a couple myself i like kde and enlightenment
[03:36] <ali1234> Hail_Spacecake: yes
[03:36] <nrdb> pfred1: use you preferences.
[03:36] <Hail_Spacecake> ah
[03:36] <pfred1> nrdb hopefully wmakerconf will do just nicely
[03:36] <ali1234> Hail_Spacecake: unless you have two wireless cards or something
[03:36] <Hail_Spacecake> I don't
[03:36] <ShoeUnited> what directory do I extract my video/audio codecs into?
[03:36] <pfred1> nrdb I've run wmaker since version .14
[03:36] <neuroe> how do I configure which files are opened by which programs?
[03:36] <jepler> killown: libpolyp0 is in "universe", which you have to enable manually.  You can do it somehow in 'synaptic', but I am not sure of the steps.
[03:36] <DrSpin> Crescendo -- in your terminal type sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda (ASSUMING THE HD IS THE FIRST) -- let me know if that fixes it
[03:36] <Hail_Spacecake> but sudo iwlist wlan0 scan returns nothing
[03:36] <Hail_Spacecake> even though the same wireless card works perfectly in SuSE
[03:36] <neuroe> i have like 4 mp3 players and i want xmms to play mp3s but xine or mediabox does it
[03:36] <pfred1> nrdb before that afterstep :)
[03:37] <Hail_Spacecake> and I'm on the same network right now
[03:37] <killown> jepler thanks
[03:37] <Hail_Spacecake> it doesn't pick up any networks
[03:37] <ShoeUnited> !multiverse
[03:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:37] <ShoeUnited> there ya go killown
[03:37] <ShoeUnited> ^_^
[03:37] <pfred1> neuroe I rig filerunner as my "filemanager"
[03:37] <neuroe> ShoeUnited, have you tried easy ubuntu?
[03:37] <pfred1> neuroe ugly as sin but it is easy to configure
[03:38] <ShoeUnited> Haven't heard of it, neuroe
[03:38] <neuroe> yea but when i open an mp3 from the internet
[03:38] <neuroe> easy ubuntu will set up all that stuff for you
[03:38] <neuroe> google it
[03:38] <Hellevater> !easyubuntu
[03:38] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:38] <ShoeUnited> Well, I'm kinda in ubuntu now.  It'd be a pain to reconfigure now. lol
[03:38] <ShoeUnited> oh. lol
[03:38] <ShoeUnited> ok ^_^
[03:38] <ali1234> Hail_Spacecake: maybe it is a different version of ndiswrapper, and it doesn't quite support that driver
[03:39] <ali1234> Hail_Spacecake: compare version numbers
[03:39] <neuroe> how else would you configure it ?
[03:39] <infidel> hello i just installed ubuntu for the first time i'm looking for a howto on xgl does anyone know of one/
[03:39] <pfred1> if I didn't have 7 years of cruft on this system I'd consider installing Ubuntu on it it's pretty slick stuff
[03:39] <ShoeUnited> This would have probably saved me most of the day!  LOL
[03:39] <neuroe> you can't configure ubuntu from windows very easily
[03:39] <DrSpin> ;XDMCP owns :)
[03:39] <neuroe> so anyone now how i can get xmms to play mp3s i open from firefox, instead of xine opening them?
[03:39] <infidel> !xgl
[03:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:39] <ShoeUnited> I already installed flash and java on my own, so that's fine if it has bugs.  lol
[03:39] <ShoeUnited> ^_^
[03:40] <Hail_Spacecake> ali: if the ndiswrapper module weren't already added, wouldn't iwconfig show nothing at all?
[03:40] <pfred1> neuroe you use firefox as a file manager?
[03:40] <neuroe> grrr
[03:40] <neuroe> no
[03:40] <Hail_Spacecake> I want to make sure that's not the issue
[03:40] <ali1234> Hail_Spacecake: yeah
[03:40] <neuroe> i have broadband
[03:40] <ali1234> Hail_Spacecake: it would not show up
[03:41] <pfred1> neuroe a band of broads? can you spare me a redhead?
[03:41] <neuroe> no a broadband
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> I get this error when I log in can anyone help me fix this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i21900
[03:41] <proj3ct_> re
[03:41] <Snufj> reds
[03:41] <neuroe> a fat stripe of data
[03:41] <pfred1> Snufj fire up on top fire down below!
[03:41] <NemesisUK> neuroe, you need to associate xmms with mp3's in firefox
[03:41] <neuroe> coming into my computer via magic
[03:42] <Snufj> pfred1: :)
[03:42] <neuroe> NemesisUK, where do i do that?
[03:42] <pfred1> neuroe mine comes via a $80 a month cable bill here
[03:42] <DrSpin> my company pays for mine :)
[03:42] <pfred1> typo %90
[03:42] <Hail_Spacecake> hmm, ndiswrapper doesn't seem to have a version command
[03:42] <Hail_Spacecake> can I find that out from apt-get?
[03:42] <Buuh> andrewski: didn't work.. :(
[03:42] <pfred1> yeah i donno how debian packaging works
[03:43] <pfred1> I use that synapse stuff
[03:43] <andrewski> Buuh: hmm.  i'm out of ideas.  maybe hit up the forums?
[03:43] <neuroe> mine comes from my neighbors unsecured wifi
[03:43] <pfred1> it gives versions
[03:43] <minerale> I read somewhere that nvidia has released new drivers, how would I install them ?
[03:43] <Buuh> andrewski: url to the forums plz
[03:43] <cafuego> QC_PASSED: Still waiting? Search the Ubuntu wiki for bcm43xx
[03:43] <pfred1> minerale with much pain and misery I';d imagine
[03:43] <Snufj> neuroe: oei
[03:43] <DrSpin>  s- -d  -ad - -asd
[03:43] <andrewski> Buuh: http://ubuntuforums.org
[03:43] <NemesisUK> neuroe, firefox>preferences>download>view and edit actions
[03:43] <BioGeek> hi all
[03:43] <neuroe> oei, Snufj
[03:43] <DrSpin> LOL -- oops... sorry all
[03:43] <neuroe> ?
[03:43] <Buuh> andrewski: tkx!
[03:44] <andrewski> Buuh: good luck.
[03:44] <pfred1> minerale the package you download from nvidia you chmod it +x and run it in the console
[03:44] <Snufj> neuroe: it means naughty ;)
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> is there anyone out there that can help me fix this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i21900
[03:44] <pfred1> minerale then the pain and misery begins :)
[03:44] <BioGeek> my audio has stopped working, any hints on how I can start diagnosing to find out what the problem is?
[03:45] <pfred1> BioGeek lsmod ?
[03:45] <neuroe> ok how do i change a file types default application ?
[03:45] <QC_PASSED> cafuego: thanks
[03:45] <DrSpin> Cananone explain the Samba error "No listening on calld name" When attempting to connect to windows host on my same subnet?
[03:45] <Dimensions> ali1234: after i have copied the setting files of gprs and gprsmodem.chat do i have to work on any hting else and how do i call it to connect me ?
[03:45] <ali1234> Dimensions: pppd call gprs
[03:45] <NemesisUK> neuroe, you found it?
[03:45] <neuroe> yes
[03:45] <neuroe> im talking about something else now
[03:46] <BioGeek> pfred1: and for what should I look in lsmod?
[03:46] <pfred1> hey what's the red swirl mean anyways with Debian?
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know if the latest Beagle version (with Thunderbird support) has been backported?  (Or can be without conflicts?)
[03:46] <pfred1> BioGeek lsmod | grep snd
[03:46] <intrico> pfred1:  It's an arbitrary sex symbol, designed to generate broad appeal.
[03:47] <pfred1> intrico it makes me dizzy
[03:47] <Dimensions> ali1234: after pppd call gprs  it said nothing just took the command on terminal
[03:47] <pfred1> intrico I'd prefer pics of Debbie and Ian
[03:47] <BioGeek> pfred1: the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21935
[03:47] <neuroe> anyone: how do i change the default application a file is opened with?
[03:47] <ali1234> Dimensions: yeah it forks
[03:48] <pfred1> BioGeek well if something showed up it is probably not the sound drivers themselves
[03:48] <ali1234> Dimensions: check dmesg (i think)
[03:48] <Dimensions> how can i verify if i am connected to the net ... besides i dont see any G sign or any thing on the fone ...
[03:48] <ali1234> Dimensions: if it fails, try pppd call gprs nodetatch
[03:48] <sagarp_> ^v^
system > preferences > preferred applications
[03:48] <BioGeek> pfred1: it worked before, and I have the most recent versions of the multimedia codecs, but I don't know where to look next...
[03:48] <specialbuddy> how come when I hit the alt key my computer gets messed up when using Xgl and Compiz?
[03:49] <pfred1> BioGeek yeah you're loading your sound drivers alrighty
[03:49] <pfred1> BioGeek alsa right?
[03:50] <pfred1> hmmm maybe not?
[03:50] <BioGeek> pfred1: erhh, what's alsa?
[03:50] <pfred1> the better stuff than oss now a days
[03:50] <pfred1> advanced linux sound arch
[03:50] <pfred1> or some such
[03:51] <nozorro> architecture
[03:51] <BioGeek> pfred1: OK, I have no clue if I'm running that...
[03:51] <Dravas> I cant install Vmware on Ubuntu
 oops thts just for web and email, for any other file right click go to properties
[03:51] <specialbuddy> so does anyone else have weird things going on with their xgl compiz
[03:51] <pfred1> BioGeek looks like you use oss
[03:51] <Dravas> I keep getting a error that I have vmware on my PC
[03:51] <Dravas> But I dont
[03:51] <Dravas> :\
[03:51] <neuroe> shweet
[03:51] <pfred1> I haven't used oss in 6 years now?
[03:51] <BioGeek> pfred1: just sudo apt-get install alsa then?
[03:51] <pfred1> BioGeek nah not if they used to work
[03:52] <NemesisUK> specialbuddy, no, seems fine here
[03:52] <Dimensions> ali1234: pppd call gprs nodetatch  -->> nodetatch ??
[03:52] <ShoeUnited> !ubuntu
[03:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:52] <pfred1> BioGeek the next step would be to bring up a mixer
[03:52] <ShoeUnited> !chat
[03:52] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[03:52] <ShoeUnited> :/
[03:52] <pfred1> BioGeek and make sure you aren't muted and levels are right
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i21900
[03:52] <BioGeek> pfred1: I have checked that I'm not muted, but how do I bring up a mixer?
[03:52] <pfred1> BioGeek one annoyance with alsa is they muted by default on install!
[03:52] <marco__> " Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system,"
[03:52] <marco__> ermm
[03:53] <marco__> Ubuntu is a linux distribution my friends
[03:53] <Hail_Spacecake> yeah, they're different ndiswrapper version numbers
[03:53] <marco__> GNU/Linux is the operating system
[03:53] <pfred1> marco__ I thought it was a hack of debian
[03:53] <ali1234> Dimensions: yes
[03:53] <ben__> Guys, any reason why my Ubuntu inistall keeps bogging down until it crashes?
[03:53] <marco__> pfred1, yes, and Debian isn't an operating system
[03:53] <marco__> it's a linux distribution
[03:53] <pfred1> marco__ I never said it was
[03:53] <Axe_> marco__ and linux is an operating system?
[03:53] <Dimensions> ali1234:  that says unrecognised option
[03:53] <marco__> Axe_, no
[03:54] <pfred1> Axe_ no LInux is a kernel
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> linux is just a kernal
[03:54] <marco__> GNU/Linux is the operating system
[03:54] <ali1234> Dimensions: nodetach
[03:54] <Axe_> right...
[03:54] <ali1234> Dimensions: i spelt it wrong
[03:54] <pfred1> marco__ are you RMS in disguise?
[03:54] <ben__> Guys, any reason why my Ubuntu inistall keeps bogging down until it crashes?
[03:54] <nozorro> BioGeek: With some sound cards one has to use the weirdest controls to get sound again. Make sure you enable all the controls in gnome-volume-control, and then open all the channels.
[03:54] <pfred1> marco__ do you bathe?
[03:54] <Dravas> Ahhhhhhhhh I cant install VMware Workstation because it says I have vmware installed But I dont what should I do
[03:54] <marco__> pfred1, lol
[03:54] <kjm> ben_ : there could be lots of reasons.  Error messages and/or more information would be useful.
[03:55] <marco__> pfred1, actually, RMS is probably what scares people away from linux
[03:55] <pfred1> calling Linux an OS isn't really the end of the world
[03:55] <Dimensions> ali1234: it says -->> Failed to open /dev/ttyACM0: Invalid argument
[03:55] <marco__> I didn't say it was
[03:55] <marco__> I said that Ubuntu wasn't an OS
[03:55] <kjm> Anyone here installed Gaim and had success with the xFire plugin?
[03:55] <pfred1> not technically coeewct but ppl know what you mean
[03:55] <ali1234> Dimensions: well, did you verify that /dev/ttyACM0 actually works?
[03:55] <pfred1> marco__ no but it is what most people think an OS is
[03:55] <Dravas> Ahhhhhhhhh I cant install VMware Workstation because it says I have vmware installed But I dont what should I do
[03:55] <alinuxGuy> Hello i am the website, http://swaroopch.info/text/Byte_of_Python:First_Steps, a link i got from the ubuntu website int he python section and it tells me to start the python intereperter how to do i do that?
[03:56] <pfred1> marco__ and language is just about communication
[03:56] <ben__> kjm: It doesn't print any messages. It just bogs down, freezes a few times, then crashes. It's done it twize
[03:56] <conner> Dravas, are you on Windows or Linux?
[03:56] <Arclite> I love Ubuntu... it's helped me switch 3 of my friends to Mac OS X. Thanks, guys!
[03:56] <kjm> what do you mean by "bogs down"
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone fancy helping me with this --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i21900
[03:56] <pfred1> Dravas crack or D all of the above?
[03:56] <marco__> pfred1, yes, and if we let words lose their exact meaning, then the communication becomes fuzzy and uncertain
[03:56] <Dravas> conner Linux
[03:56] <ben__> I installed JRE2 today, could that be it?
[03:56] <Dimensions> ali1234: i only followed the way you told me as i dont know how to deal with it on my self ... i searched only there were many manuals and blogs but all different from each others tried all of them none worked for me ...
[03:56] <Dravas> Its the evalutation version
[03:56] <pfred1> marco__ ain't being human grand?
[03:56] <Axe_> Arclite: wtf?
[03:56] <kjm> Arclite : Ubuntu has switched people to OS X???  How does that make Ubuntu look good?
[03:57] <conner> Dravas, what evaluation version?
[03:57] <ali1234> Dimensions: did you install picocom and try to send an AT command to /dev/ttyACM0?
[03:57] <pfred1> Steve Jobs wanted to be the antichrist but the devil wouldn't have him!
[03:57] <Dimensions> i had once conneted with wvdial but couldn't ping or any thing else but even now i can't connect with wvdial ...
[03:57] <kjm> I admit, I have an iBook which I dual boot with, and OS X is good.....but that is insane
[03:57] <BioGeek> pfred1: done, still no sound :(
[03:57] <alinuxGuy> I am trying to learn to use python and im at the website http://swaroopch.info/text/Byte_of_Python:First_Steps it tells me ot open the python interpereter will osm 1 tell me how to open the pythoin intereperter?
[03:57] <Dravas> VMware Workstation 5 VMware-workstation-5.0.0-13124.tar.gz
[03:57] <ben__> kjm: It freezes, goes slower and slower and slower, and freezes a few more times until it crashes
[03:58] <Arclite> kjm, Axe_: Ubuntu showed them that Windows wasn't all it was cracked up to be. They wouldn't look at the Mac OS, they were too biased against it being "gay" and "slow" and "crap". Ubuntu was a stepping stone.
[03:58] <miked> i am trying to run a binary app and it keeps saying it can't find the shared library libglade-2.0.so.0.  I installed libglade from synaptic and from source but the program still won't run.  What else can I try?
[03:58] <ben__> Could it be a problem with a weird memory/proc leak in JRE2?
[03:58] <pfred1> BioGeek OK one thing that even i don't have a full grasp of is the many different things that are "sound" with a computer
[03:58] <conner> Dravas, is that what you're trying to install?
[03:58] <andrewski> alinuxGuy: hit up #python; they'll be able to help you there.
[03:58] <beerfan> I am no longer able to "switch user" in gnome (stay logged in but log in a different user). I see a console screen which is starting or stopping some services and then it pops back to the screensaver login for the current user. Any suggestions about to troubleshoot this?
[03:58] <roostishaw> is it safe to upgrade to the latest xorg stuff?
[03:58] <kjm> ok then.
[03:58] <Dravas> Yer conner
[03:58] <pfred1> BioGeek like there is wav sound then there is midi sound
[03:58] <kjm> roostisha : Yes, all has been fixed.
[03:58] <alinuxGuy> ok thanks
[03:58] <pfred1> BioGeek you can have one and not the other
[03:58] <Dimensions> ali1234: i have installed it but donno how to sent AT command to ttyACM0
[03:58] <ali1234> ben__: do you have 256mb or less and are you using any of these apps? firefox, evince (pdf viewer) evolution?
[03:58] <conner> Dravas, try the VMWare player first. It has a package built for Ubuntu.
[03:58] <ali1234> Dimensions: picocom /dev/ttyACM0
[03:58] <pfred1> BioGeek I assume you mean wav sound though correct?
[03:59] <BioGeek> pfred1: I know I was able to play mp3 and .ogg files in the past, not sire about midi and wav...
[03:59] <ali1234> Dimensions: then type AT and press enter
[03:59] <ali1234> Dimensions: if it says "OK" then it's working. if not, then it isn't working
[03:59] <pfred1> BioGeek mp3 and ogg would be wav
[03:59] <pfred1> BioGeek what app you play files with?
[04:00] <alinuxGuy> when i tryed to go to #python nothing happened are u sure its even a channel?
[04:00] <pfred1> BioGeek there are deamons that hijack sound too like arts and esd is it?
[04:00] <BioGeek> pfred1: I mostly used Totem movie player
[04:00] <ben__> alil234: System Specs: P4 2.4cGhz cpu; 1258MBs Corsair RAM, 540GBs hard disk space
[04:00] <marco__> alinuxGuy, you need to register your nick
[04:00] <alinuxGuy> how?
[04:00] <pfred1> BioGeek try ps aux | grep -i art
[04:00] <marco__> /msg nickserv help
[04:00] <ben__> alil234: It also ties up my cpu 100%
[04:01] <ben__> it's crazy!
[04:01] <Dimensions> it says ttyACM0 invalid argument ...
[04:01] <beerfan> I am no longer able to "switch user" in gnome (stay logged in but log in a different user). I see a console screen which is starting or stopping some services and then it pops back to the screensaver login for the current user. Any suggestions about to troubleshoot this?
[04:01] <Dimensions> ali1234:
[04:01] <AustLaw> how do I stop getting a channel list once it has started?
[04:01] <roostishaw> is it safe to upgrade to the latest xorg stuff?
[04:01] <ben__> ctrl+c maybe
[04:01] <Dimensions> ali1234: this is what i got ... FATAL: cannot open /dev/ttyACM0: Invalid argument
[04:01] <BioGeek> pfred1: gives no running process
[04:01] <conner> roostishaw, I just did. Everything seems fine.
[04:02] <roostishaw> conner, but wasn't there a big issue with it being broken?
[04:02] <pfred1> BioGeek art seems to be the major offender there are others though
[04:02] <pfred1> BioGeek artsd I believe it is?
[04:02] <conner> roostishaw, yep. But it was fixed almost immediately.
[04:02] <Dravas> wtf
[04:02] <pfred1> BioGeek I believe that oss is single channel
[04:02] <roostishaw> conner, oh, ok. ive been away for a while, so thank you!
[04:02] <Dravas> Now I get an error in package
[04:02] <Dravas> when installing the player
[04:02] <ali1234> Dimensions: chmod a+rw /dev/ttyACM0
[04:02] <fuoco> ubuntu really needs some usable bittorrent client
[04:03] <ali1234> Dimensions: with sudo
[04:03] <conner> Dravas, what is the error?
[04:03] <BioGeek> pfred1: nothing for eds or artsd either
[04:03] <pfred1> BioGeek like if one app is using sound no other app can sort of a thing
[04:03] <ali1234> Dimensions: then try picocom again
[04:03] <Dravas> nvm
[04:03] <pfred1> BioGeek well if art didn't turn it up nothing will
[04:03] <BioGeek> pfred1: I see
[04:03] <ali1234> Dimensions: if it still doesn't work, then i don't know what else to try
[04:03] <pfred1> BioGeek alsa depending on the card you can have like 32 events going at a time
[04:03] <conner> Dravas, "nvm"?
[04:04] <ben__> So, any ideas as to my problem?
[04:04] <pfred1> BioGeek so you could see how a sound deamon could mess ya up
[04:04] <Dravas> Nevermind = nvm
[04:04] <pfred1> quothe the raven nevermore!
[04:04] <ali1234> ben__: what kind of time period are we talking about?
[04:05] <minerale> I read somewhere that nvidia has released new drivers, how would I install them ?
[04:05] <conner> Dravas, sorry. I thought it was non-volatile memory
[04:05] <pfred1> BioGeek that'd be my next line of investigation if some sound deamon hasn't hijacked your sound on you
[04:05] <conner> minerale, the easiest way to to wait a few days for the package to be uploaded to the Ubuntu servers.
[04:05] <fuoco> oh i ruined my system
[04:05] <BioGeek> pfred1: OK, thanks for helping me investigating this.
[04:06] <ben__> ali1234: I ran my system for about an hour or two between each. Both times it was after running Azureus.
[04:06] <mastastealth> Hey guys. I bought this ZD1211b based wireless key. I tried a howto on the forums (on a desktop) that didnt work. I check the main driver's page & followed THOSE instructions (on my laptop) and they did work! But I need it to work on the desktop :P I think I've compiled the drivers so many times, that even if I did it right (from the main page) that it wouldnt work. Is there a way to clear out all the drivers I might have inst
[04:06] <mastastealth> alled?
[04:06] <ali1234> ben__: check top to see what's using all your resources i guess. and then kill it :)
[04:06] <pfred1> BioGeek there is always the classic http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO/
[04:06] <minerale> conner: will the auto update work on that package?
[04:06] <lostinc> Is there a non-Evolution task manager for the task bar?
[04:06] <ben__> how do I launch top?
[04:06] <minerale>  conner: ie unfree packages ?
[04:07] <ali1234> ben__: type "top" in a console
[04:07] <conner> minerale, it should work. As long as you have the current package installed.
[04:07] <pfred1> ben__ type it into the command line?
[04:07] <ben__> kk
[04:07] <Dravas> I cant install it at all
[04:07] <Dravas> Vmware Workstation
[04:07] <Dravas> Because it says that I have vmware installed
[04:07] <BioGeek> pfred1: OK, give me some time to grok that one
[04:07] <pfred1> BioGeek yeah I could retype it but someone already has for me :)
[04:08] <ben__> There a reason is lists three users on my systen?
[04:08] <jbroome> you have vmware player installed?
[04:08] <pfred1> BioGeek you'll get to hear Linus say how he says Linux
[04:08] <ali1234> ben__: depends which users
[04:08] <pfred1> BioGeek always a gas
[04:08] <conner> Dravas, there should be an un-install script with the workstation package if you've already tried installing it.
[04:08] <ben__> Never mind. me root and sys
[04:08] <Dravas> I did
[04:08] <Dravas> I installed it
[04:08] <Dravas> and uninstalled it
[04:08] <conner> Dravas, if you try installing the player package, it should give you a specific error.
[04:08] <Dravas> gah
[04:09] <fogos> hi somebody knows the command for install ubuntu from live-cd on boot optios
[04:09] <BioGeek> pfred1: nice, I'm looking forward to hear him saying it :)
[04:09] <fuoco> i used partitionmagic to resize windows xp ntfs partition and make space for ubuntu, but it failed miserably leaving me with unbootable system that reboots itself in a loop - anyone knows how to deal with that ?
[04:09] <eXcentra> Does anybody know of any audio players that support unicode characters? (other than Rhythmbox)
[04:09] <pfred1> BioGeek the .au file
[04:09] <pfred1>  41493 May 28  2003 english.au
[04:10] <alinuxGuy> Hwo do i open a shell prompt?
[04:10] <alinuxGuy> How*
[04:10] <ben__> go to apps then accessories
[04:10] <conner> alinuxGuy, applications, accessories, terminal
[04:10] <ben__> then click terminal
[04:10] <alinuxGuy> kk
[04:11] <jn-> i am having an issue with both network-manager-gnome and knetworkmanager.. if you are familar with either of these please let me know
[04:11] <jn-> i could use some help
[04:11] <pfred1> kdeinit: kaboodle -icon kaboodle -miniicon kaboodle -caption Kaboodle /mnt/d1/english.au
[04:11] <sethk> jn-, try asking a more specific question
[04:11] <Ademan> how do you go about creating a package?
[04:11] <jn-> ok well, with both apps. they recognize the wifi card but htey do not show any available networks..
[04:11] <pfred1> Ademan it can't be very hard judging by the sheer volume of packages floating aorund
[04:12] <lostinc> Is there a way to have a password protected folder in GNOME?
[04:12] <sethk> jn-, that's specific to wireless, has nothing to do with either of the apps you mentioned
[04:12] <jn-> at one time network-manager-gnome worked on this machine
[04:12] <pfred1> lostinc your home dir should be "protected"
[04:12] <jn-> sethk: ok. i am connected now with wireless.. setting set in network-admin + some wpa entries in a file for wpa.
[04:13] <nozorro> lostinc: you could set up a special user account for that
[04:13] <jn-> wpa and auto discovery is the reason i would like to get one of those apps working
[04:13] <pfred1> nozorro you mean my mommy was wrong when she told me that i was special?
[04:13] <sethk> jn-, sounds good
[04:13] <jn-> sethk: what is keeping these apps from displaying the networks?
[04:14] <nozorro> pfred1: *everyone* is special. thus, every user account is special
[04:14] <sethk> jn-, lower level configuration.  the wireless must be set up, at least partially, to even see the list of networks.
[04:14] <pfred1> nozorro you get a gold star
[04:14] <_w^x_> !mythtv
[04:14] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[04:14] <jn-> sethk: i am not following you.
[04:14] <Dimensions> ali1234: that doesn't work for me still :(
[04:14] <sethk> jn-, but you should concentrate on getting it to work at the command line level, then the gui apps will follow automatically
[04:14] <pfred1> mythtv is just that a myth!
[04:14] <Dimensions> can we try wvdial or something ?
[04:15] <jn-> sethk: can i msg
[04:15] <sethk> jn-, I don't think it will help you as much as asking here.  I'm just trying to make the question specific enough so that you get the answer you need.
[04:15] <pfred1> bittorrent is for timeswapping TV
[04:15] <sethk> jn-, the question is, how do you display the list of wireless networks in range?
[04:15] <sethk> jn-, if you ask about those two apps, people who know that answer, but don't use those apps, won't answer you.
[04:15] <jbroome> i use wifi-radar
[04:15] <spiderworm> anyone know how to get svideo tv output working?
[04:16] <sethk> jn-, see, there's one already  :)_
[04:16] <spiderworm> is there a gui tool for gnome to do this?
[04:16] <ali1234> Dimensions: i dont know how to use wvdial
[04:16] <pfred1> spiderworm I just have a big monitor :)
[04:16] <spiderworm> pfred1: :)
[04:16] <pfred1> movies are awesome on it
[04:16] <spiderworm> pfred1: well im trying to hook up my laptop to a tv to help my sister in law out with her presentation
[04:17] <spiderworm> but i cant get tv out working
[04:17] <spiderworm> and im starting to look like an idiot
[04:17] <spiderworm> so any help would be appreciated
[04:17] <pfred1> spiderworm I not so sure if it supported with all chipsets
[04:17] <HeathenDan> how do i set autoaway in xchat?
[04:17] <kjm> heh, that's something we're all used to.
[04:17] <jbroome> HeathenDan: you dont
[04:17] <HeathenDan> lol, darn
[04:17] <spiderworm> pfred1: well how do i try? theres no gui tool that i can find....
[04:17] <ali1234> spiderworm: sometimes you have to plug in the TV before you boot the computer and / or change a setting in the bios
[04:18] <cam_> anyoe here know where thelinuxdcpp channel is/
[04:18] <kjm> spiderworm : What video chipset does the laptop have?
[04:18] <pfred1> ali1234 I bet knowing what the hardware is can be of some help too
[04:18] <Dimensions> ali1234: thanks alot for you efforts bro ... can i ask one more thing ... that is if i get it working and want cron to auto dial what i will be adding as we use pppd call gprs is there any single script of it that i can add in cron to dial on time ?
[04:18] <fuoco> anyone knows a bittorrent client that supports upnp ?
[04:18] <spiderworm> ali1234: well it was plugged in before, and i have done this before with windows on the same laptop
[04:18] <spiderworm> kjm: im not sure... this is an inspiron 9400 if you're familiar with htose
[04:18] <shawnr_> Where is the proper place to place custom links for running programs from the command line. /usr/bin ?  /usr/local/bin ?  or some where else?
[04:19] <spiderworm> fuoco: let me see if i can figure it out
[04:19] <ali1234> Dimensions: you can make pppd dial on demand, if that's what you want
[04:19] <pfred1> spiderworm yeah hardware manaufacuters are much more keen on supporting Windows
[04:19] <kjm> spiderworm - it working in windows != working in linux, just like working in linux != working in windows
[04:19] <conner> spiderworm, have you tried Automatix?
[04:19] <jn-> shawnr_: /usr/local/bin works
[04:19] <spiderworm> conner: no
[04:19] <shawnr_> jn-, thanks
[04:19] <jbroome> !automatix
[04:19] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:19] <Dimensions> ali1234: how can i implement that ?
[04:19] <pfred1> spiderworm your first order of buisness would be to find out what hardware you have try cat /proc/pci or some such
[04:19] <conner> spiderworm, I've used that to setup other things. Haven't tried it with S-video yet. You might want to try it.
[04:20] <kjm> spiderworm : I'll search around.....let you know if I find anythin.
[04:20] <ali1234> Dimensions: edit gprs and add "demand" i think
[04:20] <milk[fowlduck] > does totem-xine or totem-gstreamer play more media formats?
[04:20] <jn-> so wifi radar picks up all the networks in range..
[04:20] <spiderworm> thanks guys
[04:20] <jfletcher[mac] > whats the cmd to change the locales?
[04:20] <ali1234> Dimensions: check man pppd for all the options in that file
[04:20] <fuoco> spiderworm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144188
[04:20] <jfletcher[mac] > not reconfigure, but change
[04:20] <nozorro> milk: totem-xine definitely
[04:20] <fuoco> spiderworm: but it's not in the repository
[04:20] <milk[fowlduck] > nozorro, ok, thanks
[04:20] <milk[fowlduck] > nozorro, does mplayer play even more?
[04:21] <Dimensions> thanks ali1234 :)
[04:21] <pfred1> milk[fowlduck]  mplayer will play random noise if ya feed it to it
[04:21] <spiderworm> hmmm, going to just boot to windows
[04:21] <spiderworm> l8s
[04:21] <jfletcher[mac] > unlucky
[04:21] <milk[fowlduck] > pfred1, ummm, what?
[04:21] <nozorro> milk, don't really, i believe so, but totem fits better into gnome doesnt it
[04:22] <milk[fowlduck] > nozorro, thats what I was thinking
[04:22] <jn-> i am wondering why knetworkmanager does not display the available networks in my range... when i start it it says NetworkManager disconnceted.  wifiradar works.
[04:22] <pfred1> nozorro don't like gmplayer do you?
[04:22] <ali1234> milk[fowlduck] : cat /dev/urandom | mplayer -
[04:22] <iyank4> hello all, why grub send error 17 while booting
[04:22] <vik> anyone here have much experience with 915resolution to modify video BIOS on intel chipsets?
[04:23] <jfletcher[mac] > jn-: does knetworkmanager support wireless?
[04:23] <nozorro> milk, for the standard p### cr## et al, totem-xine works ok. the problem is with the embedded videos on news sites etc
[04:23] <milk[fowlduck] > ali1234, and that means what for me??
[04:23] <jn-> jfletcher[mac] : yes it does.
[04:23] <ali1234> aw, that used to work as you would expect on gentoo. no more on ubuntu :(
[04:23] <ali1234> milk[fowlduck] : nothing in particular :/
[04:24] <iyank4> 915resolution <-- i can set 1152x?? 75 hz
[04:24] <milk[fowlduck] > nozorro, so is mplayer better for embeded video?
[04:24] <jn-> mplayer>vlc>xine imo
[04:25] <vik> iyank: that
[04:25] <vik> iyank: that's what I'm trying to do
[04:25] <vik> s/iyank/iyank4/
[04:25] <iyank4> you just follow the manual, and add 1152x to xorg.conf
[04:26] <jn-> sethk: still here?
[04:26] <ben__> Another Question. How come I cannot download anything at more then 40Kb/s on Ubuntu?
[04:27] <minerale> could someone help me articulate this better: I've used both Red Hat Workstation and Ubuntu, altho I think ubuntu is prettier, the feel of gnome is more 'jittery' while in RH the graphics are more stable, does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
[04:27] <vik> iyank4: did that; but monitor is blank with high-pitched whine when it tries to start X
[04:27] <fuoco> i used partitionmagic to resize windows xp ntfs partition and make space for ubuntu, but it failed miserably leaving me with unbootable system that reboots itself in a loop - anyone knows how to deal with that ?
[04:27] <nozorro> milk, i have no idea really, after years with dozens of different toolkits y try to stay with gnome apps/interfaces as much as possible, and enjoy it. The app whose interface diverges too much from gnome gets thrown out asap. That's how it is on my machine. -- Or is mplayer gnomeish enough? Last i looked it had a weird childish interface
[04:27] <johnnybutterkeks> hello
[04:27] <johnnybutterkeks> one more board about linux is online
[04:27] <ali1234> ben__: what are you comparing it with?
[04:27] <vik> nozorro: they've cleaned up mplayer a lot
[04:27] <johnnybutterkeks> www.linux-only.dl.am ;-)
[04:28] <minerale> ie each time I open on a window I see an extra flash
[04:28] <ben__> My windows XP download rate was on average 500-800Kb/s
[04:28] <^Down> Does anyone know where I can get GTK in a .deb file?
[04:28] <YeTr2> looking for how to disable agpgart loading during boot
[04:28] <ben__> oops
[04:28] <ShoeUnited> I just wanna say thank you to everyone who's helped me these last 36 hours. ^_^
[04:28] <ben__> KB/s
[04:28] <lostinc> how can you tell what the DVD device name is and where its mount point is?
[04:28] <milk[fowlduck] > nozorro, thanks :)
[04:28] <nozorro> vik, maybe i should have another look at mplayer then, i hope i won't have to use oss and and other strange backends
[04:29] <ali1234> ben__: please clarify whether you mean kbits or kbytes
[04:29] <iyank4> i dont remember correctly, but it happen because something you set on the 915 conf file is wrong
[04:29] <kjm> lostinc - fstab?
[04:29] <vik> nozorro: I think the main reason I use it is actually for mencoder. VLC seems just as nice
[04:29] <ben__> I am on Comcast, 5.0Mbit/s should be faster then 40 kilobytes
[04:29] <ShoeUnited> !wine
[04:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:29] <ShoeUnited> !wow
[04:29] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[04:30] <Kbird> lostinc, dmesg | grep -i dvd will tell you the device name
[04:30] <iyank4> use th 915 utility to test vga bios (or something)
[04:30] <kjm> lostinc - see /media
[04:30] <iyank4> hellow, can anyone tell me why grub send error 17
[04:31] <forevertheuni> hi I'm having problems with fglrx in ubuntu :/
[04:31] <forevertheuni> when I fglrxinfo or glxinfo I have lots of errors
[04:31] <ali1234> ben__: it depends what you download
[04:31] <ali1234> as im sure you are aware
[04:31] <forevertheuni> with the starting '[fglrx]  API ERROR:'
[04:31] <nozorro> vik, yeah, VLC also seems to be nice, but again, maybe you have to have lived Linux in the 90 with gtk1, motif, athena and, and and ... it's SO nice to have a unified desktop now, even if the features are still a bit lacking
[04:32] <forevertheuni> I'm trying to put them in pastebin..but..
[04:32] <forevertheuni> it's slow
[04:32] <ben__> ... Oh course it does. But my own server, based in New Jersey, I used to download from it at 840Kbytes/s and now it's at 40Kbytes/s
[04:32] <QC_PASSED> whats "fwcutter"?
[04:32] <andrew_> I need some help with themeing KDE
[04:32] <YeTr2> does anyone know the proper way of preventing dapper from loading specific modules, like agpgart?
[04:32] <andrew_> is there any way to get rid or the taskbar
[04:32] <ali1234> ben__: using what protocol?
[04:32] <pfred1> man i rebooted and ubuntu seems to have lost all of my network configurations
[04:33] <QC_PASSED> pwned
[04:33] <ben__> http
[04:33] <kjm> andrew_ #kubuntu, #kde #kdelooks would all be better than here.
[04:33] <andrew_> thanks man
[04:33] <ShoeUnited> ouch
[04:33] <jfletcher[mac] > YeTr2: download the theme, goto system -> preference -> theme or whatever then drag the .tar.gz file into it
[04:33] <jfletcher[mac] > it will automaticly install
[04:33] <jfletcher[mac] > select ur theme and ta-da
[04:33] <ali1234> ben__: are you sure your windows setup was not set to use comcast's http proxy?
[04:34] <jfletcher[mac] > not YeTr2  sry
[04:34] <nozorro> YeTr2, i think you can do that in /etc/modutils.d/blacklist
[04:34] <YeTr2> jfletcher[mac] : now, do you wanna say that to the actual person :P
[04:34] <ben__> Yes, I set all that stuff up myself
[04:34] <ali1234> ben__: could also be a bad network card driver
[04:34] <jfletcher[mac] > YeTr2: :(
[04:34] <ali1234> ben__: or a packet queueing issue
[04:34] <ben__> True... It's an onboard NIC based on one of the intel chipsets... Wonder where I could download....
[04:35] <jfletcher[mac] > anyone know the cmd to "refresh" locales if you will..
[04:35] <kjm> anyone have the xfire plugin for gaim installed?
[04:35] <bm0nk> gnome or kde?
[04:35] <bm0nk> personal preference ?
[04:35] <jfletcher[mac] > gnome
[04:35] <Athenon> gnome
[04:35] <Harksaw> is folding@home anywhere on synaptic? is there some kind of liscense reason why it's not?
[04:35] <ShoeUnited> ben__:  Is it a sis?
[04:36] <jfletcher[mac] > text-based is better than both though ;)
[04:36] <ben__> A what?
[04:36] <jfletcher[mac] > SiS is ancient man
[04:36] <Madpilot> Harksaw, there's a wiki page for F@H, I think
[04:36] <ShoeUnited> So? lol
[04:36] <Athenon> i wanna see someone play WoW in a linux terminal ;)
[04:36] <ShoeUnited> That doesn't stop people.
[04:36] <ShoeUnited> Budget = budget.
[04:36] <jfletcher[mac] > :)
[04:36] <Madpilot> Harksaw, check help.ubuntu.com/community
[04:36] <jfletcher[mac] > i'd sooner not :p
[04:37] <ShoeUnited> In a linux terminal O.o
[04:37] <ben__> It's an onboard Nic. My mobo is a Abit IC7-G
[04:37] <ShoeUnited> I play wine, but I wouldn't know where to being to do it in terminal...
[04:37] <ShoeUnited> Well, I will play in wine.
[04:37] <jfletcher[mac] > CEDEGA!
[04:38] <niki> what would be the command to mount my DVD-ROM on my laptop?:
[04:38] <jfletcher[mac] > mount
[04:38] <ShoeUnited> Eek,  I'm not paying them 5/mo for a perfectly good wine ^_^
[04:38] <niki> jfletcher[mac] , the whole command
[04:38] <jfletcher[mac] > depends what your drive is called etc
[04:38] <Athenon> uhh - depends niki
[04:38] <pfred1> ho bizarre i can ping from one box but not fro mthe other one
[04:38] <Athenon> mount <something> <something> ;)
[04:38] <niki> jfletcher[mac] , Athenon, how can i tell what the drive is called?
[04:39] <jfletcher[mac] > mount dvd://
[04:39] <Athenon> you uhh...gotta go ls /dev
[04:39] <jfletcher[mac] > try that
[04:39] <jfletcher[mac] > if not
[04:39] <ShoeUnited> If they sold it as a package, sure, i'd buy it, buyt I'm already shelling 15 for WoW and 60/yr for an XBL gold membership, and 60/mo for internet.
[04:39] <jfletcher[mac] > ls -a /dev/
[04:39] <ali1234> niki: dmesg | grep DVD
[04:39] <ShoeUnited> I've had it up to my eyebrows in subscriptions.
[04:39] <jfletcher[mac] > ShoeUnited: what currency?
[04:40] <ShoeUnited> USD
[04:40] <jfletcher[mac] > ah right
[04:40] <ShoeUnited> np
[04:40] <niki> ali1234, it shows it as hdc
[04:40] <jfletcher[mac] > ur internets still cheaper than mine then atm
[04:40] <ShoeUnited> Ah, but is your broadband faster?
[04:40] <jfletcher[mac] > probly not, 2mb nothing special
[04:40] <pfred1> sone of a ...
[04:40] <ShoeUnited> I get 200kb/s down
[04:41] <YeTr2> jfletcher[mac] : just as a note, wine support is getter _really_ good, and all cedega does is hack up their, how many years old, version of wine with 'fixes' to make it supported with their software
[04:41] <jfletcher[mac] > next month it goes to 24 for 24mb
[04:41] <niki> i can't get any dvds to play, i think my dvd rom is not mounted...but i can't figure out how to mount it
[04:41] <jfletcher[mac] > now its 40 for 2mb
[04:41] <fiendskull9> but only 30 up
[04:41] <fiendskull9> lol
[04:41] <jfletcher[mac] > YeTr2: good point
[04:41] <ShoeUnited> 24mb I can't pray for that.
[04:41] <ali1234> niki: you do not need to mount a dvd to play it
[04:41] <jfletcher[mac] > ShoeUnited: www.bethere.co.uk
[04:41] <niki> alil
[04:41] <ali1234> !/msg ubotu !dvd
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu !dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <ali1234> doh
[04:42] <jfletcher[mac] > lol
[04:42] <pfred1> hey is there a firewall in ubuntu?
[04:42] <jfletcher[mac] > can be
[04:42] <niki> ali1234, i've already installed all codecs and libcssdvd2
[04:42] <tapox> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble setting the time.
[04:42] <pfred1> OK how i check if I have a firewall in ubuntu?
[04:42] <YeTr2> pfred1: iptables is in ubuntu, therefore there is a firewall with ubuntu
[04:42] <ali1234> niki: then, mplayer dvd://
[04:42] <YeTr2> pfred1: sudo iptables -L
[04:42] <pfred1> YeTr2 there some gui tool to deal with it?
[04:42] <Madpilot> pfred1, Firestarter
[04:43] <YeTr2> pfred1: that, I do not know :P
[04:43] <jfletcher[mac] > who needs gui
[04:43] <conner> tapox, did your right click on the clock?
[04:43] <ali1234> niki: although here they load up automatically
[04:43] <pfred1> well i don't want a firewall on that box sorta useless being as it is internal
[04:43] <niki> ali1234, the error is : libdvdread: could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss
[04:43] <alexdbkim> hello
[04:43] <YeTr2> I have all my iptables with HTB queing done via command
[04:43] <tapox> conner: And it asks for permission to open time-admin. I type in the password, and it gives me a blank window.
[04:43] <conner> tapox, and then try "adjust date and time"?
[04:43] <Madpilot> pfred1, by default iptables doesn't really do anything, so you can ignore it
[04:43] <ali1234> niki: sudo ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd
[04:43] <ShoeUnited> I could never live with limited usage.
[04:43] <jfletcher[mac] > didnt think it was
[04:44] <tapox> conner: I can't close it without force-quitting
[04:44] <YeTr2> jfletcher[mac] : then turn it into a terminal and run a gui on it from another machine
[04:44] <pfred1> Madpilot yeah it is all accept
[04:44] <conner> tapox, strange, it should come up with the "time and date settings" window.
[04:44] <jfletcher[mac] > YeTr2: lol, im not that bothered ;p
[04:44] <ShoeUnited> The 14 pound has a limit
[04:44] <tapox> conner: It says that, but within the window is only a few gray boxes
[04:44] <pfred1> yeah i can ping out of that ubuntu box to my external box but not the other way aorund
[04:44] <niki> ali1234, that gave me this error : ln: creating symbolic link '/dev/dvd' to 'dev/hdc': File exists
[04:44] <conner> tapox, do you have problems with any other windows?
[04:44] <tapox> conner: nope.
[04:44] <pfred1> gonna check cable on this box
[04:44] <Dravas> I converted a vmware Workstation RPM to Deb using Alien
[04:44] <jfletcher[mac] > ShoeUnited: lol, for 14 you would expect it, but 24 aint much
[04:44] <Dravas> how to run it
[04:44] <YeTr2> jfletcher[mac] : it does make my friends wonder how I'm playing doom3 on a p2 w/ 64mb memory :)
[04:45] <pfred1> From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable
[04:45] <Done> when i shutdown my system it halts well, but then i have to press the power button to completely turn it off, how can i do that automatic?
[04:45] <ali1234> niki: ls -lh /dev/dvd
[04:45] <jfletcher[mac] > YeTr2: lol, yea you could win some bets with that one actually.
[04:45] <ShoeUnited>  24 granted considering inflation, but that's still around 50 USD.
[04:45] <pfred1> wtf? this was working earlier today
[04:45] <ali1234> niki: where does the link go to?
[04:45] <ScreaminIke> installing 6.06 (not ..1) and it seems to be hanging at "15% detecting file systems"
[04:45] <ShoeUnited> But for 24mb I'd hump for it.
[04:45] <YeTr2> jfletcher[mac] : thou, it works better on gigabit ethernet than megabit
[04:45] <conner> tapox, it sounds more like a display problem. Strange that it would only manifest with that window.
[04:45] <bhearsum> is there a way to use the traditional installer with adpper?
[04:45] <YeTr2> 10/100 megabit
[04:45] <bhearsum> erm, dapper, rather
[04:45] <jfletcher[mac] > ShoeUnited: thats about 2 and a half hours work here
[04:45] <ScreaminIke> is there a cli method to install it?
[04:46] <niki> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-08-28 20:57 /dev/dvd -> hdc
[04:46] <ShoeUnited> Ouch, make me feel poor.
[04:46] <tapox> conner: Could it be a config file it's trying to read, or a bug in time-admin?
[04:46] <niki> ali1234, ^^
[04:46] <pfred1> OK why would I get a good ping one way and not the other way on a LAN ?
[04:46] <jfletcher[mac] > ShoeUnited: not for me, just for most people
[04:46] <ShoeUnited> jfletcher[mac] : Around here that's about 7-10 hours.
[04:46] <jfletcher[mac] > :p
[04:46] <ali1234> niki: hmm, then it should work :/
[04:46] <Madpilot> Done, does this bug report sound familiar: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-mouse/+bug/48773
[04:46] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, hey
[04:46] <nozorro> tapox, can you  do a 'sudo ntpdate 0.europe.pool.ntp.org' in a terminal?
[04:47] <birdfish> Could someone please help me out with configuring firestarter?
[04:47] <pfred1> klees where you at in Jersey?
[04:47] <niki> ali1234, any other ideas? :(
[04:47] <klees> pfred1: East Orange
[04:47] <ShoeUnited> I don't suppose england has room for another that jumped the colonies?
[04:47] <alexdbkim> whiis alexdbkim
[04:47] <jfletcher[mac] > ShoeUnited: 2 and a half hours overtime a week and you got free 24mb internet then :p
[04:47] <pfred1> klees Summit :)
[04:47] <jfletcher[mac] > haha
[04:47] <ali1234> niki: no, sorry
[04:47] <klees> pfred1: pretty close
[04:47] <YeTr2> pfred1: hmm... routing table is messed up, firewall preventing replies on remote machine, firewall preventing outgoing pings on local machine, other machine is not on the same network, machines are on different subnets, thats all I can think of
[04:47] <ScreaminIke> installing 6.06 (not ..1) and it seems to be hanging at "15% detecting file systems" is there any way to tell what's going on?
[04:47] <tapox> Done: Failures in halting, restarting, or sleeping can usually be attributed to bugs in the kernel, or your BIOS. Updating the kernel will happen with regular updates, and may fix the problem. You're almost guaranteed to have BIOS updates, but it's not the most friendly of processes.
[04:47] <ShoeUnited> I promise I like Dr. Who, Monty Python, Benny Hill...
[04:47] <pfred1> klees I seen your team play ours
[04:47] <jfletcher[mac] > :D
[04:47] <ShoeUnited> I know who ManU is. ^_^
[04:47] <jfletcher[mac] > the office?
[04:48] <jfletcher[mac] > EWWW
[04:48] <ali1234> ShoeUnited: ha! mistake! nobody in england likes benny hill...
[04:48] <klees> pfred1: im not in high school if that's what u mean
[04:48] <pfred1> klees we used to be in the same football conference
[04:48] <ShoeUnited> Psh, benny hill is liked.
[04:48] <pfred1> klees years ago they used to play
[04:48] <nalioth> !offtopic
[04:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:48] <ShoeUnited> He was on TV forever.
[04:48] <jfletcher[mac] > I like the music to it, but it's annncieent comedy
[04:48] <Done> i get the message "Will now Halt" and then i turn the power of manually
[04:48] <klees> pfred1: and i didnt go to to EO HS either lol
[04:48] <klees> pfred1: but thx for the info
[04:48] <pfred1> klees I can remember the cheerleaders from there chanting E O E O
[04:48] <jfletcher[mac] > monty python is cool though
[04:48] <tapox> nozorro: adjust time server 193.120.10.3 offset 0.313524 sec was the result. I guess it worked?
[04:48] <nalioth> ShoeUnited: pfred1: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:48] <ShoeUnited> OMG
[04:48] <ShoeUnited> I thought I was in OT.
[04:48] <nathanael> I set up ndiswrapper, installed the driver, ran modprobe ndiswrapper, and ndiswrapper -l shows driver installed, hardware installed - but when I click on the network manager on the taskbar - only wired shows up?!?
[04:48] <klees> pfred1: cool
[04:48] <pfred1> klees hard one to forget really :)
[04:48] <conner> tapox, could be. It seems to work fine on my system.
[04:48] <klees> pfred1: lol
[04:48] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, hey YOU
[04:49] <nozorro> tapox, yep it did. that should help you at least to get around the botched time config dialog
[04:49] <ShoeUnited> Talk about wrong window.
[04:49] <ShoeUnited> Sorry.
[04:49] <pfred1> klees this was in the early 80s
[04:49] <Athenon> test
[04:49] <Athenon> hehe
[04:49] <tapox> nozorro: The time is set properly, UTC wise. But I need to change time zones.
[04:49] <klees> pfred1: ahh i c
[04:49] <pfred1> klees I graduated HS in 82 so ...
[04:49] <klees> pfred1: grand pa is that u???
[04:50] <Done> Madpilot, i didnt notices if my mouse is still powered
[04:50] <klees> pfred1: jk =D
[04:50] <Done> noticed*
[04:50] <peteweez> I have an issue with K9Copy and libdvdread.  Whenever I try to copy a dvd with its original menus using K9Copy (without original menus isn't affected), I get a fatal error.  Anybody know anything about this?  Error message from console is available.  System is Debian Sarge/Etch.
[04:50] <Arafangi1n> Damn.
[04:50] <pfred1> anyone know what would make a LAN connection ping in one direction but not the other?
[04:50] <klees> pfred1: i graduated HS in 96
[04:50] <Arafangi1n> One of my friends typed: sudo rm -rf /
[04:50] <Madpilot> Done, sounds like your bug is more complex than just "USB not powering down" like mine is...
[04:50] <YeTr2> Your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elder berries, now go away before I taunt you again!
[04:50] <Arafangi1n> ON MY LAPTOP
[04:50] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n, your friend is an idiot
[04:50] <pfred1> klees time does indeed march on
[04:51] <achandra> what up? all...
[04:51] <nalioth> klees: pfred1: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:51] <nozorro> tapox: well, you could edit /etc/timezone, if you know what you have to enter there that is
[04:51] <pfred1>  Ignoring ALL messages from nalioth!*@*
[04:51] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: Funny, would be doing it as a non-root user, NOT FUNNY is doing it as root!
[04:51] <Done> maybe is not a bug maybe i just have to configure it to turn the power off
[04:51] <nalioth> peteweez: why don't you pastebin your errors and bring us the URL ?
[04:51] <pfred1> nalioth feel free to do the same :)
[04:51] <tapox> nozorro: Is this worthy of a bug report?
[04:51] <peteweez> put it in #flood?
[04:51] <nalioth> peteweez: a pastebin would be better, it'll float away in #flood
[04:52] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n, so exactly how screwed up is your machine now?
[04:52] <ali1234> tapox: nozorro: /etc/timezone should be a symlink to something in /usr/share/zoneinfo
[04:52] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: At first, I though it was just my apt archive deleted.
[04:52] <Madpilot> Done, no, it's a bug, it should shut down by itself
[04:52] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: It ran for about one second.
[04:52] <peteweez> nalioth: ok can you give me a pastebin link?
[04:52] <klees> pfred1: so how's linux treating u?
[04:52] <pfred1> nalioth! fucking prick
[04:52] <Done> Madpilot, have you find any solution?
[04:52] <ali1234> tapox: er, /etc/localtime sorry
[04:52] <Madpilot> Done, not yet, no
[04:52] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: But, it deleted all of my /var/run, plus other directories in /var
[04:52] <pfred1> klees usually pretty good thanks for asking
[04:53] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: And who knows what else.
[04:53] <pfred1> klees bit new to ununtu
[04:53] <Gun_Smoke> Are there any known issues for WINE 0.9.20 and 6.06?
[04:53] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n, reinstall time, I think... after you beat the sh*t out of your buddy, of course... :|
[04:53] <Arafangi1n> Gun_Smoke: Of course.
[04:53] <klees> pfred1: same here
[04:53] <Done> Madpilot, thank you anyway
[04:53] <Arafangi1n> Gun_Smoke: Wine is unfinished software.
[04:53] <nozorro> tapox, it does seem so. maybe you could start from the terminal: 'sudo time-admin', to see why the dialog doesn't come up
[04:53] <conner> tapox, can you go to System, Administration, Time and date?
[04:53] <Bot_Builder> http://xkcd.com/
[04:53] <Bot_Builder> hehehe
[04:53] <pfred1> klees but i have been running LInux for over 10 years now
[04:53] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: I'm just glad I've kept my /home partition separate.
[04:53] <tapox> conner: it produces the same result
[04:54] <klees> pfred1: nice.  i started linux 3 years ago
[04:54] <Gun_Smoke> Arafangi1n: I can't get it to run at all.
[04:54] <klees> pfred1: never perfectioned my skills so i still consider myself a noob
[04:54] <Gun_Smoke> Arafangi1n:  winecfg just hangs.
[04:54] <peteweez> nalioth: pastebinned in paste.ubuntu-nl.org under name peteweez
[04:54] <Arafangi1n> Gun_Smoke: Don't use winecfg.
[04:54] <tapox> nozorro: Nothing printed out.
[04:54] <pfred1> annoying little brats on this channel
[04:54] <Gun_Smoke> Arafangi1n:  Then use?
[04:54] <Arafangi1n> Gun_Smoke: If you're willing to start again from scratch, type: rm -rf ~/.wine
[04:55] <Arafangi1n> Gun_Smoke: Then, just type: "wine /path/to/exe
[04:55] <Arafangi1n> "
[04:55] <Gun_Smoke> Arafangi1n:  I already removed it via synaptic
[04:55] <enderhegemon> Hello. I'd like to install Ubuntu on my PowerBook G4, but I don't want to destructively parition my HD. Unfortunately, gparted on the LiveCD doesn't support HFS+. Any other options. Message me private if you can help...I get lost in all these conversation. Thanks!
[04:55] <nalioth> peteweez: did it have a URL ?
[04:55] <Arafangi1n> Gun_Smoke: You'll still have ~/.wine
[04:55] <peteweez> nalioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21936
[04:55] <erik> Hey- Dapper 6.06 is on my t23 thinkpad, but it cannot mount any cd's... How can I get it to work with the cd drive?
[04:56] <jfletcher[mac] > re-configure them?
[04:56] <Gun_Smoke> Arafangi1n:  Ok, done.
[04:56] <nozorro> tapox: i know there's some log saved somewhere on the system from the backend for time-config, but i can't remember it right know. someone else please?
[04:56] <nalioth> peteweez: you can add that URL to your question for best results
[04:56] <peteweez> ok
[04:56] <Arafangi1n> Gun_Smoke: Generally you'll get the best results if you have the very latest wine installed. What app are you trying to run?
[04:57] <Dravas> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[04:57] <Dravas> Fudge
[04:57] <peteweez> nalioth: Did the errors make any sense to you?
[04:57] <Dravas> I need that to configure VMware
[04:57] <nalioth> peteweez: i'm looking, gimme a minute please
[04:57] <tapox> nozorro: What's the name of the package time-admin is part of? gnome-admin-tools?
[04:57] <Dravas> Where are the c header files for my running kernel?
[04:58] <nalioth> !headers
[04:58] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[04:58] <nozorro> tapox, yeah, i think so
[04:58] <tapox> nozorro: Close. Gnome-system-tools
[04:58] <Dravas> Where are the c header files for my running kernel?
[04:58] <dion> hey anyone in here have very much experience setting up ndisweappwe?
[04:58] <dion> ndiswrapper?
[04:58] <Dravas> I need them for VMware
[04:58] <nalioth> peteweez: unfortunately, i can make nothing of your errors.  keep asking every 5 minutes or so  :(
[04:58] <nalioth> !tell Dravas about headers
[04:58] <Gun_Smoke> Arafangi1n:  Well at first started to 'try' running it with dvdshrink. But I need to run Xactimate..
[04:58] <conner> tapox, the name is gnome-system-tools.
[04:59] <peteweez> OK thanks for your time anyway :).
[04:59] <wolf> hello
[04:59] <nozorro> conner you're right there
[04:59] <wolf> I have what seems to be a very weird problem.
[04:59] <alexdbkim> hello
[04:59] <peteweez> nalioth: Obviously it's something to do with libdvdread but I don't know what...I've heard about newer versions of libdvdread having issues with my software, and I have the newer version
[04:59] <dmsantam> alexdbkim hey
[05:00] <Arafangi1n> Gun_Smoke: Running what?
[05:00] <Hiryu> anyone opengl programmers in here experienced with libglew under ubuntu?
[05:00] <alexdbkim> dmsantan yo
[05:00] <wolf> for some reason when set to dhcp, dns resolves, but when set to a static IP and the same dns settings are used in the resolv.conf, it doesn't resolve anything.
[05:00] <Gun_Smoke> Arafangi1n:  Running? Xactimate?
[05:00] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, yo
[05:01] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, it doesn't highlight for you?
[05:01] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, nope
[05:01] <nalioth> peteweez: perhaps you can downgrade it ?
[05:01] <dmsantam> alexdbkim it does for me.. hmm
[05:01] <dmsantam> alexdbkim your name comes out bright yellow
[05:01] <bm0nk> why you think the net was born?! porn porn porn!!!!!
[05:01] <ben__> holy Crap! Intel has a Wiki O_o
[05:02] <peteweez> nalioth: Yeah I installed older libs but I don't know how to force the prog to use the old libs and not the new libs.  Do I need to recompile my prog?
[05:02] <ben__> I point, click, and hug my horn to porn porn pooooorn!
[05:02] <bm0nk> for!
[05:02] <bm0nk> PORN!
[05:02] <viator> how do you play those quicktime .mov files?
[05:02] <bm0nk> THE INTERNET IS FOR PORN
[05:02] <nalioth> peteweez: remove the newer libs ?
[05:02] <bm0nk> ME UP ALL NIGHT HUGGING ME HORN
[05:02] <Gun_Smoke> Arafangi1n:  Getting wine via synaptic its only marking on file... Although a couple are listed in reference to it.. Do I need others it's not telling me?
[05:03] <Arafangi1n> Gun_Smoke: It's been a long time since I've used a packaged wine, but you should only need wine.
[05:03] <lavi> hi all
[05:03] <cyanics> evening folks.
[05:03] <bm0nk> hey guys sorry im back my dad came in and messed about with my computer
[05:03] <tjcarter> ben, bm0nk: okay kids, enough of that.
[05:03] <enderhegemon> Is there anyone that can help me partition my HFS+ volume without destroying the data? I'd like to install Ubuntu on my PowerBook G4
[05:03] <_azrael> !offtopic> bm0nk
[05:03] <Dravas> Where is the location of the Linux headers
[05:03] <Arafangi1n> Gun_Smoke: Wine's been having a hard transition period, as you used to have to have a manually configured wine configuration, then you had a manual "wine setup" program, etc, but now wine does it automatically.
[05:03] <lavi> lavi, I edited the file XTerm-color, but the system seems does not read that file
[05:03] <ben__> tjcarter: Sorry :s
[05:03] <cyanics> enderhegemon, you will need to find a tool to "resize" the partition.
[05:03] <lavi> why ?
[05:04] <cyanics> enderhegemon, with HFS, i don't know if something exists.
[05:04] <Dravas> Ahh
[05:04] <tjcarter> ben: the song is funny as hell, this just isn't the right place, etc  =)
[05:04] <Dravas> Where is the location of the Linux headers
[05:04] <ben__> :P
[05:04] <bm0nk> everyone needs a rebel
[05:04] <kromel> My Nvidia card fails OpenGL test in Cedega...
[05:04] <dmsantam> Dravas install them
[05:04] <tjcarter> Dravas: the linux-headers package puts them in /usr/src
[05:04] <lavi> I also edit the line -color in .Xresources file. and xrdb it
[05:04] <Dravas> I have them
[05:04] <viator> yeah use qtparted or gparted
[05:04] <DBO> kromel, did you install the nvidia-glx driver?
[05:04] <peteweez> nalioth: Removing new libs breaks many other packages...not an option.
[05:04] <enderhegemon> I read somewhere that parted can do it, but I don't understand how, exactly
[05:04] <enderhegemon> gparted on the LiveCD doesn't support HFS+
[05:04] <lavi> did anyboday encounter that issue?
[05:05] <Arafangi1n> One problem I had with my system was that it was using software acceleration, and not hardware - how do I fix this? (Yes, I had the ATI proprietary drivers installed)
[05:05] <tjcarter> Dravas: There are some linux headers (libc is compiled against them), but they're just the ones linux is compiled against..
[05:05] <kromel> DBO, um, not after I installed the latest NVIDIA driver
[05:05] <dmsantam> alexdbkim how about now?
[05:05] <nalioth> peteweez: i suspect you need a more knowledgable person
[05:05] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, or now?
[05:05] <alexdbkim> nope
[05:05] <tjcarter> Dravas: which you want to use depends on what you're doing  =)
[05:05] <kromel> I am a noob
[05:05] <dmsantam> alexdbkim: or now?
[05:05] <alexdbkim> nope
[05:05] <nalioth> peteweez: keep asking about every 5 minutes
[05:05] <peteweez> ok
[05:05] <dmsantam> alexdbkim damn
[05:05] <alexdbkim> nope
[05:05] <alexdbkim> :P
[05:05] <Dravas> I am setting up VMware
[05:05] <DBO> kromel, ok, why dont you hop on over to #ubuntu-xgl , and we can take care of you there
[05:05] <shawnr_> everytime i create an archive '.tar.gz' of my home directory and save it on an eternal drive... the archive is damaged... What am I doing wrong?
[05:05] <kromel> okay, sounds good.  Thanks!
[05:05] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: Did you umount it?
[05:06] <dmsantam> Dravas apt-get install linux-headers-386
[05:06] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, while it was working?
[05:06] <dmsantam> Dravas then they'll be in /usr/src
[05:06] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, no
[05:06] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, it was on the entire time it was archiving
[05:07] <enderhegemon> Thanks for your help..
[05:07] <tjcarter> DBO: if I go in there and ask about the bug that prevents the installation of the nvidia development headers, will anyone actually consider fixing the problem?  =)
[05:08] <kjm> shawnr_ : What command are you using to create the archive?  How large is it?
[05:08] <shawnr_> kjm, let me look in my backup script
[05:08] <DBO> tjcarter, I will look at it sure
[05:08] <DBO> tjcarter, but patience, Im backlogged
[05:08] <tjcarter> At the moment, Ubuntu maintains my statement that every single Linux distribution screws up OpenGL and will not follow the industry-agreed-upon Linux ABI.
[05:09] <ross> hello
[05:09] <tjcarter> DBO: it's real simple--the nvidia-glx package needs to provide libgl1
[05:09] <shawnr_> tar cpzf $backupPath --exclude-from=$excludefile /home/$USER 2>/dev/null
[05:09] <DBO> tj9991, yes it does
[05:09] <shawnr_> kjm, tar cpzf $backupPath --exclude-from=$excludefile /home/$USER 2>/dev/null
[05:09] <ross> Can anyone help me connecting my laptop to my wireless router?
[05:09] <peteweez> maybe
[05:09] <Axe_> I need to find a file, what command can I run
[05:10] <tj9991> no it doesnt!
[05:10] <cyanics> "find . | grep "file""
[05:10] <peteweez> ross: do you have your card hooked into your laptop?
[05:10] <tj9991> >:(
[05:10] <ross> thanks.....im a complete nub.....i just figured out how to connect with ethernet
[05:10] <ross> its a built in wireless
[05:10] <tjcarter> that's all, add that and the problem goes away.  Well, excepting for the expectation that the OpenGL lib always goes into /usr/lib, always, so it can be dlopen'd
[05:10] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: ALWAYS umount it before removing it.
[05:10] <peteweez> ross: what distro?  Ubuntu?
[05:10] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: Just like windows, incidently.
[05:11] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, i do. everytime
[05:11] <ross> hold on checking..........5.04
[05:11] <DBO> tjcarter, just apt-get source it and change the rules in the debian directory if you want to change that
[05:11] <DBO> its a simple change
[05:11] <kjm> shawnr_ : I have never seen the -p switch before, what's that for?
[05:11] <tjcarter> dlopen() being the one way we have as OpenGL developers to work around the various distributions collective screwups regarding the library--the worst of which being SuSE  =)
[05:11] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, im getting this error: 'gzip: stdout: Input/output error'
[05:11] <ross> pete:thanks
[05:12] <shawnr_> -p, --preserve-permissions
[05:12] <kjm> ty
[05:12] <tjcarter> DBO: I just install nvidia-glx and edit /var/lib/dpkg/status to add the Provides:
[05:12] <viator> whats the plugin etc to play quicktime clips?
[05:12] <shawnr_> kjm, im getting this error: 'gzip: stdout: Input/output error'
[05:12] <peteweez> ross: OK su to root, then type ifconfig to make sure you have the required utilities.
[05:12] <disasm> kjm: preserve perms
[05:13] <kjm> Well, I can't see anything wrong with the command.  One thing, have you tried simply creating the .tar first, then using gzip.?
[05:13] <kjm> other than that, I'm useless
[05:14] <tjcarter> DBO: if this were Debian, it'd be a release-critical bug that nvidia-glx-dev depends on nvidia-glx which conflicts with it..  Of course if this were Debian the bug would likely be ignored because I filed it, but that's politics I extracted myself from almost half a decade ago now.
[05:14] <peteweez> ross: Oh wait! I got that wrong...you want iwconfig not ifconfig...OK su to root and type iwconfig.
[05:15] <disasm> shawnr_: are you sure you aren't running out of space on the destination drive? that would cause it to corrupt
[05:15] <tjcarter> bruenig: he means run the command with sudo?
[05:15] <jazzrocker> bruenig, that would be: sudo -s
[05:15] <shawnr_> disasm, 300 gigs
[05:15] <disasm> shawnr_: ah k, nm then
[05:15] <peteweez> no su as in type su then type the root password
[05:15] <shawnr_> disasm, im getting this error: 'gzip: stdout: Input/output error'
[05:16] <bruenig> indeed, I know the sudo su and sudo -s, however that does not really su to root
[05:16] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: Not good.
[05:16] <jazzrocker> bruenig, understood
[05:16] <disasm> shawnr_: in the middle of the script?
[05:16] <cyanics> disasm, who is the ext. drive mounted?
[05:16] <Madpilot> peteweez, there is no root pw in a default Ubuntu install - no need for one, either...
[05:16] <peteweez> oh ok
[05:16] <peteweez> I'm Debian
[05:16] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, could it be the drive
[05:16] <peteweez> sorry
[05:16] <Madpilot> peteweez, "sudo ifconfig" is probably what you want to suggest instead...
[05:16] <cyanics> Madpilot, the default user is able to sudo to root
[05:16] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: Possible. Try fsck.
[05:16] <peteweez> You know no root password is just a little risky, although tantalizingly convenient
[05:16] <shawnr_> disasm, tar outputs that error... not my script
[05:16] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: WHile the drive is umounted.
[05:16] <Madpilot> cyanics, yes, but it's pointless
[05:16] <disasm> shawnr_: on extract?
[05:17] <shawnr_> Aragang, its fat32
[05:17] <tjcarter> peteweez: root is locked.  There is no root passwd.
[05:17] <Madpilot> peteweez, the root pw is scrambled, not missing.
[05:17] <peteweez> Madpilot: Yeah sorry...I'm a Debian user...similar to Ubuntu, but not the same.
[05:17] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: fsck.vfat or whatever.
[05:17] <tjcarter> you can sudo, but not login.
[05:17] <peteweez> ah
[05:17] <peteweez> thanx
[05:17] <peteweez> that makes sense now
[05:17] <shawnr_> disasm, no while, or at end of archiving
[05:17] <ShoeUnited> Do I have to restart in order to run wine?
[05:17] <cyanics> Madpilot, then just sudo passwd root
[05:17] <bruenig> SHoeUnited, no
[05:17] <disasm> shawnr_: if you do that command, fsck.vfat -F 32
[05:17] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: How big is the archive, btw?
[05:18] <bruenig> ShoeUnited, if you just installed wine make sure you run winecfg
[05:18] <corndog_> I'm having full system freezes when burning cd's using k3d and gnome baker... where can I find an error log or where should I start diagnosing the problem?
[05:18] <ShoeUnited> Ok then.  I'm following the wow faq on the site, but when I double click on install.exe lol It don't do nothing.
[05:18] <disasm> shawnr_: how big is your home dir? and do you have wine installed?
[05:18] <ross> hey pete it says I have no wireless extensions.....the light on the laptop for the wireless is on.
[05:18] <Madpilot> peteweez, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for how Ubuntu handles root/sudo/etc
[05:18] <tjcarter> cyanics: there usually is no need to assign a root passwd for a workstation.
[05:18] <peteweez> Madpilot: thanks
[05:18] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, 400megs and another 2gig one
[05:18] <cyanics> tjcarter, for security, i always apply a very strict one.
[05:18] <bruenig> ShoeUnited, try opening the command line and doing "wine /path/to/install.exe"
[05:18] <tjcarter> cyanics: locked is not secure?
[05:18] <peteweez> ross: Type sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:18] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: If I recall correctly, you have a 4GB limitation, right?
[05:18] <bruenig> replacing path to of course with the real one
[05:19] <shawnr_> disasm, wine is on the exception list
[05:19] <ross> if or iw?
[05:19] <cyanics> tjcarter, sudo isn't a locked ident
[05:19] <ShoeUnited> Oh ok ty again bruenig ^_^
[05:19] <peteweez> ross: if eth0 is your interface...it could be eth1, etc.
[05:19] <disasm> shawnr_: ah k, cause that would throw you in an infinite loop if it's being missed...
[05:19] <peteweez> ross:if
[05:19] <birdfish> Could someone please help me to get my LAN clients to be able to use the internet through my ubuntu server?
[05:19] <peteweez> ross: not iw
[05:19] <birdfish> I have installed dhcp3-server and firestarter
[05:19] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, ahhhh you mean fat32 has a file size limit?
[05:19] <birdfish> But I can't get on the internet from my LAN client still
[05:19] <disasm> birdfish: 2 NICS?
[05:19] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: Yes.
[05:19] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: But I think it's 4 GB.
[05:19] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, thats bs lol
[05:19] <birdfish> disasm: Definitely :D
[05:19] <Madpilot> cyanics, only the user created during install has sudo privs; if they put in a weak password that's their problem. They'd probably have used a weak root pw too.
[05:19] <ross> ok nothing happened
[05:20] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: How so?
[05:20] <peteweez> ross: no nothing would
[05:20] <ross> ok
[05:20] <shawnr_> Arafanf, i mean that sucks lol
[05:20] <peteweez> ross: check it by running sudo ifconfig
[05:20] <cyanics> Madpilot, i agree.. which is the reason why i always implicetly set a root password.
 eth0 connects to the internet and eth1 I want to use with the LAN
[05:20] <bruenig> also if you add new users in to sudoers
[05:20] <cyanics> Madpilot, plus, i hate sudo
[05:20] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: Does, it's why my removeable drives are all ext3.
[05:20] <corndog_> shawnr_, i believe hes right... fat32 has a 4gb limit and fat16 has a 2gb limit
[05:20] <disasm> birdfish: gentux.org/proxy
[05:20] <peteweez> Could someone tell me how to do a one-on-one IRC chat...I'm a noob to irc but not linux.
[05:20] <ross> pete: it just says eth0 and lo again :-?
[05:20] <Madpilot> peteweez, /msg $nick hi
[05:20] <fuoco> i used partitionmagic to resize windows xp ntfs partition and make space for ubuntu, but it failed miserably leaving me with unbootable system that reboots itself in a loop - anyone knows how to deal with that ?
[05:21] <disasm> birdfish: throw that in your init.d, update-rc.d it, and customize it to fit your network
[05:21] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, that might be it, because when i got the error i added my music folder, which puts it over 4 gigs i think
[05:21] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: No, it's per file.
[05:21] <peteweez> Madpilot: thanks...you sure know a lot.
[05:21] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: I suspect your error is elsewhere.
[05:21] <Madpilot> peteweez, I waste entirely too much time here ;)
[05:21] <bruenig> fuoco, ditch windows seems like a suitable solution
[05:21] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, no i mean that put the archive file over 4 gigs
[05:21] <disasm> birdfish: warning, it's not very secure, i have an additional firewall script ran, that just sets up the NAT
[05:21] <peteweez> Madpilot: lol
[05:21] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: In that case, that'd do it.
[05:22] <fuoco> bruenig: i did for myself, but that's my family's computer
[05:22] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, how could i convert it to ext without loosing my data?
[05:22] <peteweez> Madpilot: it didn't open a new chat window
 You wouldn't have any idea how to set it up through firestarter would you?
[05:22] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: If you have the option to reformat the drive as ext3, take it. The *only* drawback of an ext3 drive is that windows can't use it easily.
[05:22] <bruenig> fuoco, you don't have an install disk?
[05:22] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: Archive the data onto CD's or DVD's.
[05:22] <Madpilot> peteweez, it will when whoever you PM'd replies, if you're in XChat
[05:22] <corndog_> I'm having full system freezes when burning cd's using k3d and gnome baker... where can I find an error log or where should I start diagnosing the problem?
[05:22] <peteweez> Madpilot I typed "/msg ross hi"
 I'm brand new to ubuntu (somewhat linux in general) and am not sure how to do too much
[05:22] <disasm> shawnr_: copy data to another drive, and fdisk/mkfs it
[05:22] <peteweez> Madpilot: I'm in gaim
[05:22] <shawnr_> disam, don't have that luxury
 I'm just trying to get my machines online before school starts on friday so that I can start learning
[05:23] <shawnr_> disasm, and no more blank cd's left lol
[05:23] <peteweez> ross: did ifconfig say that you had any interfaces up?
[05:23] <trpr> Arafangi1n: ya. thats no exageration.. your ext3 partition can be read, but once you write to it the ext3 journal is broken, and needs to be recreated when mounted again in linux
[05:23] <Madpilot> peteweez, ah, not sure how gaim does IRC PMs - gaim sucks for IRC generally, though. Install Xchat, it's actually designed for IRC
[05:23] <peteweez> Madpilot: yeah probably
[05:23] <cafuego_> birdfish: Lesson 1: Just click stuff and see what happens. It will warn you if you're about to break stuff.
[05:23] <AustLaw`> I want to install grub onto hda1, I am booted to a second hdd, how can I do this?--im totally new to linux
[05:23] <bruenig> peteweez, you can just right click on the name and click IM
[05:23] <peteweez> gaim's for aim and jabber, etc.
[05:23] <cafuego_> eh
[05:23] <bruenig> I use gaim looks pretty good
[05:23] <cafuego_> that;s for disasm :-)
[05:23] <disasm> birdfish: save that script to /etc/init.d/proxy if you run /etc/init.d/proxy start, routing should work
[05:23] <peteweez> bruenig: thanks
[05:23] <fuoco> bruenig: install disk of ?
[05:23] <IcemanV9> OR sudo aptitude install xchat-gnome :)
[05:24] <bruenig> fuoco windows
 And then I can use firestarter to set up the firewall?
[05:24] <shawnr_> Arafangi1n, disasm, do you know what this means? 'tar: /home/shawn/.Blam.shawn: socket ignored'
[05:24] <NickRivers> xchat-gnome? ugh lol
[05:24] <Arafangi1n> trpr: Even that's not easily done.
[05:24] <mdkaneda> I'm having a little problem... Anyone who could help me i'd much appreciate it. I'm trying to get my Samba shares working, I've finally said goodbye to Windows, but my girlfriend's PC is still running windows, and she loves those RealArcade games, and not ready to give up windows... Soooo... My Ideal setup would be her sharing my backgrounds/mp3s/etc off my backup partitions, would prefer no pword
[05:24] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: tar is skippign the socket.
[05:24] <ShoeUnited> !firestarter
[05:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:24] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: As there's no point in backing them up.
[05:24] <bruenig> xchat is cool but since I have gaim going already for AIM, might as well use it for IRC
[05:24] <Arafangi1n> shawnr_: Think of a socket as a network port.
[05:24] <brendonjt> nickrivers:i agree didn't like it now just use xchat
[05:24] <dion> hey anyone in here have very much experience setting up ndiswrapper?  I'm having a bit of difficulty getting started
[05:24] <disasm> birdfish: not sure, never used firestarter, i write all my firewalls from scratch with iptables
[05:24] <IcemanV9> NickRivers: it's not bad once you get used to.
[05:24] <GigaClon> what can i use to listen to shoutcast streams?
[05:25] <fuoco> bruenig: i guess i do - how would that help ? i need to reinstall - i hope not to lose information on the partition
[05:25] <NickRivers> IcemanV9: I've been using xchat too long... xchat-gnome bugs me hehehe
[05:25] <disasm> dion: yeah, it's a pain in the butt... used it on my ex gf's laptop
[05:25] <bruenig> fuoco, do you have any usb drives that you could put the information on?
[05:25] <birdfish> ShoeUnited: yeah, I realize it's just the frontend and can set up connection sharing.  But you have to do more work than just click add connection sharing and I don't see instructions for that
[05:25] <dion> disasm: lol I've grather that at least that much so far!
[05:25] <fuoco> bruenig: even if i do. i don't know how to access it
[05:25] <mdkaneda> KVIrc is what i use, it absolutely rocks =D
[05:26] <bruenig> if you messed up windows you should probably go to ##windows first to see if you can recover it. I being a bit extreme would just reinstall.
[05:26] <shawnr_> disasm, what was that command to check my fat32... just incase?
[05:26] <disasm> dion: what's your problem with it?
[05:26] <dmsantam> bitchx all the way! :P
[05:26] <dion> disasm: are there any other options besides that?
[05:26] <NickRivers> fuoco: if your windows partition was the only partition on the hdd before you tried to resize it, try resizing it back to take up the full hdd with a standard mbr
[05:26] <disasm> shawnr_: i don't think their is an fsck for fat32...
[05:26] <NickRivers> fuoco: try using BootIT NG
[05:26] <peteweez> I have an issue with K9Copy and libdvdread.  Anyone wanna help?
[05:26] <GigaClon> what can i use to listen to shoutcast streams?
[05:26] <disasm> shawnr_: yeah there is
[05:26] <NickRivers> peteweez: what's the issue?
[05:27] <brendonjt> dmsantam:  used bitchx  but couldn't be bothered  manually do the login all the time
[05:27] <disasm> fsck.vfat
[05:27] <ross> sorry pete i had to step out for a sec.....no ifconfig said the same.....eth0 and lo
[05:27] <peteweez> ross: do you see a new one-on-one window...I wanna talk to you on a private channel.
[05:28] <IcemanV9> do you think it's a bug when rhythmbox frozen once the network disconnected for a second or two??
[05:28] <shawnr_> disasm, fsck.vfat -F 32   ?
[05:28] <ross> yeah
[05:28] <disasm> shawnr_: no, i wasn't thinking when i said that
[05:28] <disasm> shawnr_: -F 32 is needed for mkfs (formatting)
[05:28] <peteweez> NickRivers: Whenever I copy a dvd with k9copy and tell it to preserve original menus, it has fatal libdvdread error.
[05:28] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:28] <shawnr_> disasm, and this safe for my data on there?
[05:28] <IcemanV9> GigaClon: streamtuner
[05:28] <disasm> probly fsck.vfat -wa /dev/sda1 or whatever device is
[05:28] <peteweez> NickRivers: Error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21936
[05:29] <ross> i acedentaly closed it
[05:29] <shawnr_> disasm, god forbid, thats my only backup of all my information
[05:29] <disasm> shawnr_: i can't guarantee anything, but file system check shouldn't hurt anything
[05:29] <disasm> shawnr_: maybe leave off the wa
[05:29] <peteweez> ross: it should've reopened cuz I sent another message
[05:29] <shawnr_> whats wa?
[05:29] <disasm> shawnr_: -a repairs automatically -w writes to disk immediately
[05:30] <NickRivers> peteweez: this happens with every dvd?
[05:30] <ert> could someone please tell me the moduals under /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/*/*.ko
[05:30] <ert> how do they get there
[05:30] <GigaClon> I got that but when i go to open a stream from the web it opens up the open file dialog
[05:30] <disasm> ert: when the kernel is installed
[05:30] <peteweez> NickRivers: every dvd so long as I instruct it to copy the original menus...if I don't ask for orig. menus then it works fine
[05:31] <ert> i mean do the ubuntu people put them there or are they part of the kernel
[05:31] <Dimensions> aahhh ali123 is gone or what ?
[05:31] <disasm> ert: if your compiling from scratch, when you run make modules_install
[05:31] <NickRivers> peteweez: and you can play the dvds just fine?
[05:31] <disasm> s/your/you're
[05:31] <disasm> ert: kernel modules
[05:31] <peteweez> NickRivers: yeah no probs
[05:31] <IcemanV9> GigaClon: yea, open with what? rhythmbox? just click 'ok', then you'll hear the music
[05:31] <shawnr_> disasm, Read 512 bytes at 0:Input/output error
[05:32] <peteweez> ross: did you find the private chat window?
[05:32] <ross> yeah
[05:32] <disasm> i/o errors scare me... had to many hd's go kerchunk kerchunk kerchunk kerchunk
[05:32] <ross> I was typing in it
[05:32] <ross> you said ross you there
[05:32] <Dimensions> can some one tell me ... what does the message :>>> Device ttyACM0 is locked by pid 23385
[05:32] <mdkaneda> Anyways, can anyone help me with my Samba Shares? my smb.conf must be screwy, my windows machine cant connect, even when i create a password. ultimately i'd like to connect w/ no password since i'm running a local wired network... Can anyone help me? or give me a working sample smb.conf?
[05:33] <peteweez> ross: yep OK switch to that window
[05:33] <disasm> Dimensions: it means an application with pid 23385 is using device ttyACM0 (serial?)
[05:33] <IcemanV9> ert: there are 427 modules in there
[05:33] <ert> disasm: ok cause there are some wifi moduals that dont work on 6.06 out of the box
[05:33] <disasm> mdkaneda: security=share sounds like what you want
[05:33] <corndog_> mdkaneda, did you specify a force user, force group in your smb.conf?
[05:33] <shawnr_> disasm, Read 512 bytes at 0:Input/output error
[05:33] <peteweez> NickRivers: It's a prob with reading dvd menus, cuz mplayer doesn't need to read menus, just content.
[05:33] <fuoco> anyone knows which bittorrent client is good to use ? the default one is really poor...
[05:34] <ert> disasm: you can get them working but only if you recompile them
[05:34] <mdkaneda> yes, i followed directions on ubuntuguide.org and it didnt work, been frustrating, was messing w/ it all last night
[05:34] <disasm> ert: yeah, the ones that need to fwcutter tool thingy, they need firmware pieces from windows drivers cut out
[05:34] <peteweez> ross: Is eth0 your wireless interface?
[05:34] <rockzman> yo can anyone who has a CCO Login on cisco send me an image?
[05:34] <Dimensions> ummms ....  disasm i am already connected via ADSL modem in ethernet port could that be reason for getting above message while i am trying to connect via gprs modem of my cell fone using usb serial cable ?
[05:34] <ross> why isnt the chat working?........anyway its my ethernet wire to the router
[05:34] <ross> idk what lo is
[05:34] <ert> disasm: oh
[05:35] <disasm> Dimensions: maybe
[05:35] <ert> disasm: brb
[05:35] <corndog_> mdkaneda, heres a working extract from my smb.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21943 let me know if it helps
[05:35] <viator> !quicktime
[05:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:35] <peteweez> ross: lo is loopback...ignore that
[05:36] <peteweez> ross: btw I had the exact same prob you had a long time ago...it's even more of a b**** on Debian.
[05:36] <ross> ok
[05:36] <ross> you think I will be able to get it to work?
[05:36] <peteweez> ross: but ifconfig lists eth0 as an interface
[05:36] <AustLaw> in the past someone pointed me to a link that gave a script to mount a windows drive
[05:36] <peteweez> ross: absolutely yes
[05:36] <AustLaw> anyone know which script I am talking about?
[05:36] <rockzman> yo can anyone who has a CCO Login on cisco send me an image?
[05:36] <ross> ok cool
[05:36] <peteweez> ross: do you have an aim account?
[05:36] <disasm> ooh yay! gnome works again ;-) had to strip almost all of it out and reinstall it after accidentally kicking the power plug during dist-upgrade ;-)
[05:36] <ross> yeah
[05:36] <disasm> back to gui ;-)
[05:36] <BlueEagle> !ntfs
[05:36] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:36] <dbaker> hi guys... i have a Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02) that is recognized by Alsa but cant seem to get any flippin sound out of the speakers..can someone help out with this issue??
[05:37] <BlueEagle> !fuse
[05:37] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:37] <AustLaw> thanks
 One more question.  How do I get it installed so that I can start/stop/restart it?  I have it configured and placed in /etc/init.d, but when I excute update-rc.d, nothing happens
[05:37] <BlueEagle> austlaw: Not sure if that
[05:37] <peteweez> ross: logon to aim and add peteweez to your buddy list
[05:37] <BlueEagle> is what you want
[05:37] <disasm> ah... back to being able to use firefox again ;-)
[05:37] <AustLaw> yes, that is it
[05:37] <peteweez> ross: then IM me
[05:37] <BlueEagle> austlaw: very good. :)
[05:38] <YeTr2> I freaken hate this PNY graphics card
[05:38] <disasm> birdfish: /etc/init.d/proxy start
[05:38] <YeTr2> keep getting status disabled on /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
 I think it needs to be installed though.  It says command not found
[05:39] <disasm> birdfish: to get it to start on boot: update-rc.d proxy defaults
[05:39] <birdfish> Ah
[05:39] <viator> does anything in linux play the h264 files
[05:39] <disasm> birdfish: did you save it in /etc/init.d/
[05:39] <BlueEagle> viator: What are h264 files?
[05:39] <disasm> birdfish: mv proxy /etc/init.d/
[05:39] <archaios> I glove you
[05:39] <phargle> h265 but not h264
[05:39] <archaios> I glove you very much
[05:40] <birdfish> I executed "sudo cp proxy /etc/init.d
[05:40] <fuoco> viator: mplayer, ffmpeg, vlc
[05:41] <disasm> birdfish: sudo chmod 7555 /etc/init.d/proxy
[05:41] <birdfish> Should I have uncommented !binsh
[05:41] <birdfish> ?
[05:41] <NickRivers> BlueEagle: h264 is the video codec used by quicktime 7 i think
[05:41] <disasm> birdfish: sudo /etc/init.d/proxy start
[05:41] <disasm> birdfish: no
[05:41] <BlueEagle> nickrivers: Appears to be consistent with what google tells me.
[05:41] <BlueEagle> :)
[05:41] <viator> Video codec 'Advanced Video Coding (H264)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins
[05:41] <corndog_> Can anyone just point me in the right direction... I need to debug a system crash when I try to burn a CD.
[05:42] <Shadowpillar> who here has XGL?
[05:42] <birdfish> there, I think it started
[05:42] <birdfish> Now time to test
[05:42] <disasm> birdfish: #!/bin/sh tells the shell it's a script supposed to be run by /bin/sh
[05:42] <BlueEagle> shadowpillar: #ubuntu-xgl is for xgl discussions.
[05:42] <BlueEagle> shadowpillar: oh, and !anyone
[05:42] <NickRivers> what is xgl?
[05:42] <BlueEagle> !xgl
[05:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:43] <disasm> birdfish: you may also need to uncomment line 27 of sysctl.conf#net/ipv4/ip_forward=1
[05:43] <birdfish> Actually, I'm online on the LAN now :D
[05:43] <disasm> birdfish: cool!
[05:43] <birdfish> disasm: you are awesome, thanks so much! :D
[05:43] <fausto_> hi there
[05:43] <disasm> birdfish: no problem ;-)
[05:44] <fausto_> I am using rosegarden to arrange a piece of music but I wish to have two instances of the program running at the same time (not for something like crazy like playing two midi's concurrently but just so I can copy some things over)
[05:44] <viator> heh mplayer plays the video
[05:44] <fausto_> When I open it up twice it just brings me to the same instance
[05:45] <viator> but guess what
[05:45] <fausto_> any i deas?
[05:45] <viator> no SOUND
[05:45] <viator> lol
[05:45] <fred__> hello - what is the name of the application used to add applications (friendlier than synaptic) ?
[05:45] <bluefox83> ok, i have this huge error message in the corner of my screen, and it says crap about a file not working..and the error window has two buttons, neither of which work, they are "hide" and "details" how do i get rid of the damn thing?
[05:45] <fred__> I' d like to use it under xubuntu but it' s not in the menus/installed by default
[05:45] <bluefox83> nevermind...
[05:45] <corndog_> fred__, are you thinking of easy ubuntu or automatix?
[05:46] <disasm> fausto_: yeah, for one does it lock the sound card? if not, open another X instance, and run it in it, startx -- :1 from terminal (not graphical terminal, ctrl-alt-f1 terminal)
[05:46] <brendonjt> fred_: in a gui  or command
[05:46] <fausto_> will i be able to switch between them in the task bar?
[05:46] <fred__> corndog_, nope, just the Add/Remove software tool in Ubuntu
[05:47] <Colossal> i need some help, my desktop wont show, and anytime i bring up anything related to the desktop or home folder (file browser etc) it automatically closes
[05:47] <disasm> i know chances are slim... but is there a way to upgrade all the deb packages on a cd? I have the cd copied, have successfully created my own preseed, but all the packages are out of date, and it would be nice to have up to date packages after install
[05:47] <brendonjt> fred_: i think  synaptic is the easiest  except for terminal
[05:48] <disasm> fausto_: no, not when open in a new X instance
[05:48] <fausto_> yeah i just did it ... not exactly what i was looking for but kind of cool
[05:48] <fausto_> lol
[05:48] <disasm> fausto_: the other thing you could possibly do is start a vncserver and tightvnc into it
[05:48] <brendonjt> corndog_: what is automatix  i only heard about it?
[05:49] <corndog_> brendonjt, its a gui for installing applications
[05:49] <Colossal> any ideas?
[05:49] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell disasm about automatix
[05:49] <brendonjt> corndog_: similar to synaptic?
[05:49] <corndog_> brendonjt, it has a set list of applications that are commonly instaleld
[05:49] <disasm> corndog_: isn't it more of a script, or is it a gui tool?
[05:49] <Axe_> I'm trying to make a launcher that goes to a shell script in one of my menus.. I checked run in terminal and put sh pathtoscript.sh in the box but when I run it the terminal just opens and closes really fast
[05:49] <BlueEagle> disasm: automatix has been known to break ubuntu systems in the past.
[05:49] <Axe_> if I take the command I'm trying to run and just put it into a terminal window it works
[05:49] <brendonjt> corndog_: cheers for that
[05:49] <viator> use easyubuntu
[05:49] <corndog_> disasm, its basically a script... but it has a gui tool very basic
[05:49] <viator> !easyubuntu
[05:49] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:49] <fausto_> disasm ... the reason I'm wanting to do this is because I have a midi i created with a keyboard and of course some things that were just emotion came out into the music as 1/32nd note rests ... when i try to delete them from the music in rosegarden i can't
[05:50] <fausto_> are you familiar with rosegarden?
[05:50] <disasm> BlueEagle: i know ;-) I'm making my own cd that has nothing to do with automatix, it works great, just a lot of packages need upgraded, and to do that I have to create a apt-ftparchive, and manually download all the ones I need, hoping I have all the dependencies and such
[05:50] <BlueEagle> disasm: sorry. I totally miffed the nick there.
[05:50] <fred__> NOt looking for easy ubuntu etc...
[05:50] <BlueEagle> :)
[05:50] <CaptainMorgan> I have a win hdd that is corrupt, missing a file that prevents booting.. I googled and found something about booting into linux to copy files - love to do that, how do I access it in Linux if the hdd folder is password protected in win? I have the password, so it's a legit op
[05:51] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell brendonjt about automatix
[05:51] <BlueEagle> brendonjt: ...and automatix has been known to break ubuntu in the past.
[05:51] <fred__> Just the "Add/Remove software"  that comes with Ubuntu (but not Xubuntu)...
[05:51] <Colossal> i need some help, my desktop wont show, and anytime i bring up anything related to the desktop or home folder (file browser etc) it automatically closes
[05:51] <wifiworks> disasm: hey its me again
[05:51] <disasm> fausto_: haven't used rosegarden at all...
[05:51] <disasm> hey wifiworks
[05:51] <brendonjt> blueEagle:  thanks for that  just read it,  sounds risky
[05:51] <BlueEagle> captainmorgan: How is it encrypted/protexted under windows?
[05:51] <corndog_> anyone know a good 64 bit cd burn other than gnomebaker and k3b (they are crashing my system :()
[05:52] <wifiworks> disasm: just diferent nick
[05:52] <disasm> old nick?
[05:52] <wifiworks> er
[05:52] <wifiworks> grt
[05:52] <brendonjt> fred_:are u using xbuntu?
[05:52] <wifiworks> or somthin
[05:52] <fausto_> ok ... well thanks for the attmpet!
[05:52] <CaptainMorgan> BlueEagle, you know the Windows login screen? that's it
[05:52] <BlueEagle> brendonjt: I've never used it but I've seen people complain about it breaking their box. Some people recon !easyubuntu is better.
[05:52] <CaptainMorgan> for users
[05:52] <rayston> hey, how do you figure out what the start command for a program I installed from synaptic is?
[05:52] <BlueEagle> captainmorgan: That's not a password protection of the file. That's just the log in. Unless ofcourse it's on an encrypted NTFS file system.
[05:53] <fred__> gnome-app-install  - GNOME Application Installer
[05:53] <fred__> tx. ;)
[05:53] <brendonjt> blueEagle:  ok  i'll store  that tip away,  i'll  be sticking with synaptic,  it does what i need
[05:53] <BlueEagle> captainmorgan: ...or there are other utils that encrypt files on-the-fly.
[05:53] <disasm> wifiworks: what's the issue?
[05:53] <wifiworks> disasm: u said that i need windows firmware for some wifi moduals to work?
[05:53] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell wifiworks about u
[05:53] <CaptainMorgan> BlueEagle, no other encrypting or utils - just the windows login screen password
[05:53] <disasm> depends on the chipset of the card
[05:54] <ALEX_PAUL> I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 from an actual official cd on an old box of mine, and before it even gets live, it puts me in a shell with "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[05:54] <wifiworks> sorry
[05:54] <wifiworks> u is now set to you
[05:54] <wifiworks> :P
[05:54] <Arafangi1n> ALEX_PAUL: What box is this?
[05:54] <brendonjt> alex_paul:  have you tried the alturnative cd
[05:54] <BlueEagle> captainmorgan: Well then the files aren't password protected per-say. It's just that you're unable to log in to windows. You can recover the files by mounting the NTFS partition and copy it to somwhere safe. (I recomend a fat32 partition as it is safely read/writable in both linux and windows.
[05:54] <ALEX_PAUL> its a 1.5 GHz p4
[05:55] <ALEX_PAUL> worked with windows O.o
[05:55] <ALEX_PAUL> but not linux
[05:55] <disasm> wifiworks: do you know your chipset?
[05:55] <ALEX_PAUL> no
[05:55] <Arafangi1n> ALEX_PAUL: Wow, if you say that's "an old box of mine", I wonder what your new box is!
[05:55] <ALEX_PAUL> I actually found it in the garbage
[05:55] <wifiworks> disasm: i have had to get a fw thing for a b wifi usb
[05:55] <ALEX_PAUL> someone was throwing it away
[05:55] <wifiworks> disasm: that was modual zd1201
[05:55] <CaptainMorgan> BlueEagle, I run that interface for communication between OS's, but I forget the name... know it?
[05:55] <disasm> wifiworks: broadcom?
[05:55] <wifiworks> and it worked
[05:55] <ALEX_PAUL> because the bios was set to show video on pci, instead of agp
[05:55] <ALEX_PAUL> :-P
[05:55] <viator> any one good with sound?
[05:55] <NickRivers> so what's XGL supposed to offer? just quicker desktop rendering?
[05:55] <disasm> viator: sometimes
[05:56] <BlueEagle> captainmorgan: ssh, vnc, laplink?
[05:56] <viator> i can hear the sounds coming from gaim but if i play a cd i have no sound
[05:56] <BlueEagle> captainmorgan: wine? wmware? No I don't know it.
[05:56] <BlueEagle> :)
[05:56] <brendonjt> alex_paul:  wow  great find, it could be a bios setting  just  a thought
[05:56] <CaptainMorgan> ill find it, thanks a million ;)
[05:56] <ALEX_PAUL> brendonjt: ok, I'll check it out
[05:56] <disasm> wifiworks: this? http://linux-lc100020.sourceforge.net/
[05:56] <wifiworks> disasm: i think the broadcom  had the same chipset but it wans't called a broadcom
[05:56] <BlueEagle> nickrivers: More eye candy.
[05:57] <brendonjt> alex_paul:  but i had a similar problem  and i used the altrurnitive install cd  and it orked
[05:57] <ALEX_PAUL> ok
[05:57] <brendonjt> alex_paul:  ^^worked
[05:57] <YeTr2> hmm..
[05:57] <NickRivers> BlueEagle: more eye candy? like what?
[05:57] <wifiworks> disasm: yeah i went to that url and got the firmware and it worked
[05:57] <YeTr2> I wonder how well I'm gona screw up my system
[05:57] <disasm> wifiworks: sweet!
[05:57] <disasm> wifiworks: i guess that makes sense if you changed your name to wifiworks it would be working ;-)
[05:57] <wifiworks> disasm: but that was for that wifi dongal i don't have it anymore
[05:58] <BlueEagle> nickrivers: rubbery windows, true transparency, nicer app switcher, nicer desktop switcher.
[05:58] <BlueEagle> nickrivers: some "effects" that are totally pointless too.
[05:58] <wifiworks> disasm: now i have a zd1211 chipset dongal
[05:58] <disasm> wifiworks: ah, so what are you working with now?
[05:58] <BlueEagle> nickrivers: still #ubuntu-xgl is the correct forum for xgl questions.
[05:58] <Shadowpillar> dongle.
[05:58] <wifiworks> the zd1211 don't work in ubuntu the modual don't go
[05:59] <disasm> wifiworks: http://zd1211.ath.cx/
[05:59] <wifiworks> there is a guide to recompile a bunch of stuff in ubnutu to get it going
[05:59] <wifiworks> yeah
[05:59] <wifiworks> but  that don't work with the existing ubuntu modual
[05:59] <disasm> wifiworks: yeah, reading page looks like it's a kernel compile ;-) ever done one before?
[06:00] <YeTr2> module
[06:03] <wifiworks> disasm: im trying to find this page on drapper and compiling zd1211
[06:03] <disasm> wifiworks: says there is a zd1211 with dapper, but that doesn't work?
[06:03] <wifiworks> can't find it
[06:03] <wifiworks> grr
[06:03] <wifiworks> disasm: no it don't
[06:04] <wifiworks> disasm: and it looks like the firm ware is there to
[06:04] <zoidberg> guys does anyone know how to make ATI TV-WONDER card work on Dapper?
[06:04] <wifiworks> like i should work out of the box
[06:04] <richiefrich> whens the new init going to be initiated?
[06:04] <disasm> wifiworks: yeah, but it doesn't work?
[06:05] <disasm> wifiworks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/zydas_zd1211
[06:05] <iramae> im on my ubuntu live-cd..i can't view the contents of the partitions of my sata hard disk.it says.."unable to mount the selected volume"
[06:05] <richiefrich> the upstart one ?
[06:05] <richiefrich> !upstart
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <disasm> if it doesn't work, you can give the compile instructions a shot, it says you can do it with just the headers, which doesn't mean an all-out compile
[06:05] <richiefrich> !botsnacks
[06:05] <zoidberg> can anyone tell me how to make streaming video and audio in firefox work?
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsnacks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <ALEX_PAUL> brendonjt: thanks, I loaded failsafe defaults and its working
[06:06] <richiefrich> !botsnack
[06:06] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:06] <richiefrich> :P
[06:06] <zoidberg> guys someone must know how to play streaming videos in firefox
[06:06] <zoidberg> i already have gxine
[06:06] <wifiworks> disasm: that how to's no good
[06:06] <wifiworks> not enought info
[06:06] <brendonjt> alex_paul:  glad to be off help
[06:07] <Axe_> zoidberg: mozilla-mplayer
[06:07] <wifiworks> need to recomplie more stuff that therre
[06:07] <Axe_> works great
[06:07] <fuci> Hi, what SSH stuff do I have to install so I can connect to my computer and use screen that runs irssi?
[06:07] <zoidberg> what else do i need to play  .wmv .avi quikticme and realplayer fiels that are streaming from a webpage
[06:07] <Nutubuntu> Good evening all -- how do I find where the java JRE lives? I need to set the JAVA_HOME environment variable ...
[06:07] <Axe_> sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer I'm pretty sure
[06:07] <Axe_> .wmv.. dunno
[06:07] <Axe_> the rest.. that should cover it
[06:07] <wifiworks> disasm: but dose it look to you like ubuntus out of the box modual is broken?
[06:07] <zoidberg> Axe_: can i use a gxine plugin instead...i'm not a huge fan of the mplayer plugin
[06:07] <tritium> fuci: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:07] <Axe_> its on ubuntuguide
[06:07] <wifiworks> thats all i want to know
[06:07] <Axe_> zoidberg: dunno.  I've always used mplayer and I love it
[06:08] <fuci> tritium: ok, thanks!
[06:08] <tritium> fuci: that will install the server on the machine you want to login to
[06:08] <wifiworks> disasm: if the modual in the standered ubuntu is broken whos fault is it
[06:09] <wifiworks> like do they just get it from some one else?
[06:09] <brendonjt> nutubuntu: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:09] <Nutubuntu> brendonjt - thank you!
[06:09] <brendonjt> nutubuntu: it shows the java  paths as well as lets you choose the default java to use
[06:09] <fuci> tritium: yeh, I have done this before on my machine but had to reinstall ubuntu and couldn't remember what I needed to install to get it work :-P
[06:10] <wifiworks> disasm: gota go
[06:10] <wifiworks> disasm: hope to talk again, thank for your thoughts
[06:10] <Axe_> zoidberg: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[06:11] <rouzic_ausente> Good Bye!
[06:11] <corndog_> Anyone have an idea why my computer crashes when I burn a cd? 64bit ubuntu... both gnomebaker and k3b
[06:12] <Nutubuntu> brendonjt - thank you! That was exactly what I needed ...
[06:12] <brendonjt> zoidberg:  you could try here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:12] <brendonjt> nutubuntu: bookmark this page  it is great http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:13] <archaios> Wow. PHP on my Ubuntu Apache server is 4 times faster than ColdFusion on the same box!
[06:13] <Nutubuntu> brendonjt - thanks again, will do
[06:13] <Madpilot> brendonjt, it's gotten better, but ubuntuguide is still not as good as the official docs - please recommend help.ubuntu.com/community/ or just help.ubuntu.com over ubuntuguide... thanks.
[06:14] <brendonjt> madpilot:  yip  sorry  about that
[06:14] <pajama> hey
[06:15] <bll3r> hello everyone
[06:15] <Nutubuntu> Madpilot - I noted that also, thanks
[06:15] <justin_> Is anyone aware of academics?
[06:15] <userbakakeng> cecille
[06:16] <justin_> Since everyone seems to be dead in ubuntu-offtopics..
[06:16] <archaios> What is academics, justin_?
[06:16] <archaios> Pray tell.
[06:16] <bll3r> hey maybe someone can help me
[06:16] <bll3r> about installing a printer
[06:17] <pajama> I made the Active Directory authentication work in Ubuntu... but I wonder gdm can ask you for a new password when you Active Directory account requires a password change, is that possible?
[06:17] <archaios> bll3r, Nobody can help you now.
[06:17] <justin_> Well simple question, do you need to go to college before you go to University? - Or can you go to University and skip college?
[06:17] <bll3r> ok . . .
[06:17] <archaios> justin_, In the US, college proffers undergraduate degrees
[06:17] <bll3r> ill figure it out :-)
[06:17] <archaios> which are a requirement to enter universities (which offer post-graduate degrees)
[06:17] <shawnr_> help with gparted.. i have an external usb hd fat32, i want to format it to ext3. it asks me to set a new labeltype... what am i supposed to set this to?
[06:17] <ruxpin> pajama: do you use ldap or winbind?
[06:17] <iramae> academics?-for me, freedom to learn everything.
[06:17] <archaios> in the UK and Australia, universities and colleges are the same thing -- they both provide undergraduate and postgraduate study
[06:17] <justin_> archaios: So you can skip college and go straight for university undergraduate? :)
[06:18] <archaios> justin_, if the university is a true US-style university, it won't offer undergraduate degrees
[06:18] <archaios> but the difference is getting smaller
[06:18] <Madpilot> justin_, now that you've got a conversation started, please move it to -offtopic - thanks...
[06:18] <justin_> Canada, I wonder - if it is U.S style, or UK style
[06:18] <justin_> Madpilot:  :)) yeah...
[06:18] <Madpilot> bll3r, what make/model of printer
[06:19] <bll3r> Lexmark z23
[06:19] <pajama> ruxpin: winbind
[06:19] <archaios> justin_, join offtopic
[06:19] <shawnr_> disasm, are you there? i've backed up my usb drive... can you help me format it to ext3 ?
[06:19] <justin_> Ok
[06:19] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell bll3r about printer
[06:19] <bll3r> hey thanks Madpilot
[06:20] <ladydoor> archaios: universities *do* offer undergrad degrees
[06:20] <ruxpin> pajama: ouch. why?
[06:20] <pajama> ruxpin: well, it worked at the first time....
[06:21] <pajama> ruxpin: should I use pam_ldap instead???/
[06:21] <ruxpin> pajama: well in any case I think you have to configure smb.conf to get smbpasswd (sp?) working
[06:21] <ruxpin> pajama: ldap is a bit more tricky
[06:22] <pajama> ruxpin: oh I see.... but gdm and kde support such a thing?
[06:22] <ruxpin> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fit_Linux_into_Active_Directory
[06:22] <Remy> hi folks, anyone know much about getting printers working in ubuntu?  I have a usb hp all-in-one (Scanner printer), allthough as long as I can get the scanning working I'm cheering
[06:22] <ruxpin> pajama: kdm and gdm work through pam
[06:22] <AWOSDev> I need help getting a modem to work
[06:22] <AWOSDev> On my laptop
[06:22] <ruxpin> pajama: see /etc/pam.d/gdm and -kdm
[06:22] <ladydoor> !xsane > Remy
[06:23] <AWOSDev> I've installed the drivers, but /dev/modem doesn't exist, nor does /dev/ttySHSF0
[06:23] <brendonjt> awosdev:  have you installed the restricted drivers?
[06:23] <ruxpin> Remy: those hp's are tricky
[06:23] <ruxpin> Remy: good lucj
[06:23] <brendonjt> awosdev:  what kind of modem?
[06:23] <shawnr_> Can someone please help me format my usb drive to ext3 ?
[06:23] <AWOSDev> Conexant
[06:23] <ruxpin> shawnr_: mke2fs -j /dev/partition
[06:23] <AWOSDev> HSF
[06:23] <ruxpin> shawnr_: that swipes all without asking
[06:24] <Remy> as I said, I don't particularly care about the other functionality, as long as I can print...
[06:24] <pajama> ruxpin: thanks I'll read them
[06:24] <brendonjt> awosdev:  i was asking about that  one othertime and i was told to make sure the restricted drivers modul is installed
[06:24] <AWOSDev> Restricted drivers module?  I didn't see that in the Wiki or the HOWTO
[06:24] <AWOSDev> .
[06:25] <shawnr_> ruxpin, Warning: could not read block 0: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read
[06:25] <Remy> !printing
[06:25] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:25] <brendonjt> awosdev:  hmm ok
[06:25] <shawnr_> ruxpin, it still working.... did i just screw it up?
[06:26] <rapidx> Hello everyone. I an trying to install ubuntu but when I insert the CD and selecting "Start or Install Ubuntu" it says 8254: timer not connected to IO-APIC. I am on an AMD64.
[06:26] <AWOSDev> brendonjt: Where did you get the restricted drivers module?
[06:26] <tritium> AWOSDev: what are you trying to do?
[06:26] <tritium> !restricted > AWOSDev
[06:26] <kerwonz> sorry what packages i need to have gcc builder, etc...
[06:26] <tritium> build-essential
[06:26] <AWOSDev> tritium: I'm trying to get my Conexant HSF WinModem to work on my laptop.
[06:26] <shawnr_> ruxpin, it seems stuck here: Writing inode tables:  108/1520
[06:27] <tritium> AWOSDev: oh
[06:27] <shadeofgrey> does anybody here have a minute to please exoplain to me wexactly what digg is and how it stands to increase traffic on my wordpress blog?
[06:27] <AWOSDev> tritum, brendonjt: I have cable Internet service but since Hurricane Ernesto is coming the only way I will be able to get online is through the modem
[06:27] <AWOSDev> (I live in Florida)
[06:27] <shadeofgrey> i live inm florida too!
[06:27] <shadeofgrey> Boca Raton to be precise
[06:28] <AWOSDev> shadeofgrey: I live in Greenacres, a burb of West Palm.
[06:28] <brendonjt> awosdev:  right  having a look now  can't remember where i seen that
[06:28] <AWOSDev> brendonjt: Thanks.
[06:28] <shadeofgrey> AWOSDev; are you a big ubuntu user and blogger by any chance
[06:28] <shadeofgrey> im desperate to find work as a professiional bklogger
[06:28] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey, #ubuntu-offtopic for blog chat, please
[06:29] <AWOSDev> shadeofgrey: I am a big Ubuntu user, but I only have one blog and it is not about Linux (though I'm thinking about one)
[06:29] <brendonjt> awosdev:  you could try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[06:29] <xelados> Could I get a little help with mounting a FAT32 drive with rw permissions to all?
[06:29] <AWOSDev> brendonjt: That's where I am
[06:29] <Sarra_> xelados: I had thta problem too
[06:29] <shawnr_> Whats better for a usb backup drive... ext2 or ext3 ?
[06:29] <Sarra_> It never got answered, and I still odn't have owner privs for that partition. =\
[06:30] <brendonjt> awosdev:  and still nothing?
[06:30] <xelados> I had fixed it at one point, but the power went out when I was asleep
[06:30] <AWOSDev> Sarra_, xelados: I believe, not sure, but believe, that you need to chmod /dev/whatever to 666 and then mount it with rw permissions as you would.
[06:30] <AWOSDev> brendonjt: Nope.
[06:30] <kromel> DBO, wow!
[06:30] <Sarra_> AWOSDev: It's 777, not 666, and that doesn't work with partitions
[06:31] <Fracture> anyone here know much about linux printing ?
[06:31] <xelados> Mine's a separate hard drive.
[06:31] <AWOSDev> Sarra: 777 is execute, you would want 666 for read/write
[06:31] <xelados> 766 would probably be best.
[06:31] <brendonjt> awosdev:  got this for the restricted drivers  for my ati video card, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:31] <Remy> anyone know much about hpoj ?
[06:31] <Remy> or hplip ?
[06:31] <brendonjt> awosdev:  it may have the modem drivers in it
[06:32] <AWOSDev> brendonjt: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 is already the newest version.
[06:32] <brendonjt> awosdev:  i got that to  hmmm
[06:34] <Remy> yay, got it working :D
[06:34] <rayston> whats a good music player/organizer for ubuntu/gnome?
[06:34] <AWOSDev> Would Ubuntu be compatible with a *really* old (literally 1996) PCMCIA Modem?
[06:34] <AWOSDev> rayston: I like amaroK.
[06:35] <Sarra_> rayston: Kaffeine
[06:35] <motin> Is there an efficient way to reinstall the sound drivers? Sound is just not working and I would like to reinstall the sound for ubuntu to find it plugnplaywise again, or is this just Windows that can do that?
[06:35] <NickRivers> rayston: amarok
[06:36] <brendonjt> awosdev:  not sure could be  you would have to try and see
[06:36] <Ademan> is there any way to choose the default packages that are installed with ubuntu?
[06:36] <AWOSDev> brendonjt: Okay.  Is it difficult to install PCMCIA modems?  I didn't see any way to install them on the DialupModemHowto.
[06:37] <phargle> pcmcia anything
[06:37] <shawnr_> Whats better for a usb backup drive... ext2 or ext3 ?
[06:37] <bll3r> ext2
[06:37] <shawnr_> any reason why?
[06:37] <shawnr_> just curious
[06:37] <LajujKej> hello
[06:37] <brendonjt> awosdev:  it should  be reconised,  it should be reconised,  but don't take it at gospel,  have a try
[06:38] <motin> There is a message that says "the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it"
[06:38] <NickRivers> why would ext2 be better?
[06:38] <AWOSDev> Okay
[06:38] <shawnr_> yea
[06:38] <NickRivers> I'm using reiser on my backup drive
[06:38] <motin> But how do I know which process is the one?
[06:38] <disasm> shawnr_: i'd go with ext3, it's not that much more space taken up, and it's worth it for the journaled filesystem
[06:38] <LajujKej> I have a question about ndiswrapper and broadcom drivers.  I can get install the drivers, and my wlan0 can see networks, but I can't connect.  Does anyone have a hint as to what is the problem?
[06:38] <xelados> Sarra_: I figured it out. Change the permissions/owner of the directory you want to mount to. then mount with your option as "umask=0000"
[06:38] <shawnr_> safer for my crucial data
[06:38] <shawnr_> '?
[06:38] <cafuego_> LajujKej: You didn't disable bcm43xx
[06:39] <Sarra_> o.O I tried that and it wasn't working for me
[06:39] <xelados> Really?
[06:39] <xelados> I just did it and it worked.
[06:39] <wweasel> shawnr_: Choice of FS is irrelevant for safety. How large is this backup drive?
[06:39] <LajujKej> cafuego I thought I blacklisted it - maybe I didn't do it right
[06:39] <shawnr_> 200
[06:39] <wweasel> shawnr_: Go with ext3.
[06:39] <wweasel> shawnr_: Will you be using it with Windows computers?
[06:39] <shawnr_> no
[06:39] <xelados> Sarra_: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/backup -t vfat -o umask=0000
[06:39] <disasm> shawnr_: Ext3 is a journaling filesystem developed by Stephen Tweedie. It is compatible to ext2 filesystems; actually you can look at it as an ext2 filesystem with a journal file. The journaling capability means no more waiting for fsck's or worrying about metadata corruption. What is most noticeable is that you can switch back and forth between ext2 and ext3 on a partition without any problem: it is just a matter of giving the mount command the right filesyst
[06:39] <xelados> is the exact command I used.
[06:40] <aleks_> #chile
[06:40] <LajujKej> what command do i use to disable bcm43xx
[06:40] <shawnr_> k ext3 it is... thanks guys
[06:40] <Krinns> hai
[06:40] <wweasel> shawnr_: In short disasm, ext3 is better than ext2 and there is no reason to use ext2.
[06:40] <aleks_> wats ?
[06:40] <jpjacobs> butr, if you have a decent filesystem mess up, or part of the partition deleted, ext2 is easier to recover (that's what i've heard)
[06:40] <shawnr_> LajujKej, add it to the driver blacklist
[06:40] <aleks_> exit
[06:40] <Krinns> when i run rdesktop on kubuntu seesion gets hang
[06:41] <archaios> reiser3 and 4 are better than ext3
[06:41] <aleks_> #chile
[06:41] <NickRivers> I guess I'm a maverick using reiserfs for my backup hdd hehehe
[06:41] <motin> There is a message that says "the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it"
[06:41] <tritium> NickRivers: yikes!
[06:41] <motin> But how do I know which process is the one?
[06:41] <shawnr_> archaios, why is that ?
[06:41] <cafuego_> !bcm43xx > LajujKej
[06:41] <ladydoor> Sarra_: maybe try adding to your /etc/fstab for that line (if there's already a line for it), under the options, the word "user" and adding yourself to the group "users" in /etc/group
[06:41] <disasm> LajujKej: rmmod will remove it temporarily, you can blacklist it if you need it permanently removed
[06:41] <Nutubuntu> disasm - you seem to know about ext3 - does it make any difference (vs ext2) if the drive starts to go bad (throw bad sectors)?
[06:41] <archaios> shawnr_, significantly more efficient
[06:41] <NickRivers> tritium: why "yikes" ?
[06:41] <Madpilot> NickRivers, picking an FS known for crashing for backups seems... odd, at least ;)
[06:41] <archaios> Nutubuntu, not really
[06:41] <Sarra_> Grr
[06:41] <archaios> Nutubuntu, ext3 doesn't protect against physical failure
[06:41] <Sarra_> It's being dumb
[06:41] <LajujKej> so would I 'rmmod bcm43xx'
[06:41] <Sarra_> brb I need to modify fstab again
[06:41] <tritium> NickRivers: just a scary thought of trusting reiserfs to backup your data
[06:42] <shawnr_> Madpilot, which fs is know for crashing?
[06:42] <NickRivers> tritium: didn't know it was an issue
[06:42] <cafuego_> LajujKej: blacklist it (or get rid of ndiswrapper and use bcm43xx, which usually works fine).
[06:42] <disasm> Nutubuntu: a few bad sectors i would think the journal would help, but if there is a significant amount no fs is going to help, that's what backups are for
[06:42] <Madpilot> shawnr_, reiser
[06:42] <archaios> disasm, it doesn't.
[06:42] <Nutubuntu> archaios - yeah,  nothing would - if data is stored to an area that fails, the data'd be munged. I must be tired out, I I should know that.
[06:42] <archaios> ext3 does not mark bad blocks, disasm -- if the write fails, it's not corrected
[06:42] <Nutubuntu> Amen to backups, disasm
[06:42] <Ademan> in the *.ISO file there's a dir called "casper" and in it there's filesystem.manifest, and it looks to be a list of packages to be installed upon installation , is that true?
[06:42] <brendonjt> madpilot:  what is the better FS  to use
[06:42] <disasm> archaios: ok
[06:42] <archaios> 1st-gen journalling filesystems do not provide such protection
[06:42] <motin> the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it <-- how do I know which is the process?
[06:42] <archaios> reiser4 is more resilient to that sort of damage
[06:43] <shawnr_> Madpilot, so you agree that ext3 is good for my backups?
[06:43] <archaios> but reiser4 is not widely deployed and thus not highly tested yet
[06:43] <Madpilot> brendonjt, Ubuntu's default is ext3
[06:43] <archaios> shawnr_, ext3 primarily prevents data loss through sudden power failures, etc -- it also saves lengthy fscks and such
[06:43] <archaios> shawnr_, it won't save you from failing hardware
[06:43] <wweasel> shawnr_: Yes, use ext3. ext2 is not more stable or whatever kool-aid that other guy is feeding you
[06:43] <disasm> archaios: good to know
[06:44] <brendonjt> madpilot:  i mean for say a second harddrive orpartition
[06:44] <archaios> reiser3 is faster, but it's a matter of personal opinion
[06:44] <Sarra_> Okay, wtf
[06:44] <archaios> as to what you prefer
[06:44] <Sarra_> oh, duh, hold on
[06:44] <archaios> certainly, I'm a big fan of Hans Reiser's work
[06:44] <archaios> XFS and JFS aren't bad, either
[06:44] <xelados> Sarra_: Any luck with your drive/partition?
[06:45] <Sarra_> What the hell
[06:45] <Sarra_> It's not letting me mount it at all now
[06:45] <LajujKej> I think I've removed bcm43xx, but I still cannot connect to these networks I see
[06:46] <xelados> What command and error are you getting?
[06:46] <xelados> Are you using the 'remount' option?
[06:46] <Sarra_> It's not giving an error
[06:46] <CarlFK> how do I tell what version of a package is installed, like ImageMagick ?
[06:46] <aeruz> Hello there!!!!
[06:46] <xelados> CarlFK: imagemagick --help ?
[06:46] <Nutubuntu> archaios-  about journaling - does that mean that a write is not complete until it's committed, so to speak, to the journal? So that if system crashes while data is being written, it's as if it hasn't been written? I should probably look this up ...
[06:47] <Sarra_> Okay, there
[06:47] <xelados> or --version?
[06:47] <Sarra_> Fixed fstab right
[06:47] <ladydoor> CarlFK: which imagemagick
[06:47] <Sarra_> Whoa, thanks a ton xelados
[06:47] <archaios> Nutubuntu, well, there is two forms of journalling
[06:47] <Sarra_> I can actually read/write with full permissions now. :D
[06:47] <archaios> data journalling and structure journalling
[06:47] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/graphics/imagemagick
[06:47] <Nutubuntu> ladydoor - which tells you where the software lives, not what version, I think
[06:48] <CarlFK> xelados: it is a package name, not a command
[06:48] <aeruz> I used gentoo for quite some time, and I remember I could see the binary files trough xterm nicely with the source code, nowwith ubuntu I can't do that, why is that??
[06:48] <xelados> Sarra_: No problem. Mounting can be a pain sometimes. :D
[06:48] <archaios> Nutubuntu: ext3 by default writes all data to the journal, in a record-centric manner, immediately - i.e. it is not cached
[06:48] <Sarra_> lmao nice pun
[06:48] <ladydoor>  oh, lol...i thought zie was just trying to see whether it was installed period. maybe i should read more carefully
[06:48] <archaios> Nutubuntu: the actual commit to the filesystem is done in a lazy (write-back caching) manner
[06:48] <Nutubuntu> archaios - I think I understand that
[06:48] <archaios> Nutubuntu: if the system crashes, there is a copy of the data in the journal which can be used to recover
[06:48] <archaios> reiser3 does partial journalling, so it's significantly faster
[06:48] <xelados> CarlFK: I think Synaptic allows you to check the properties of a package, including the version you have installed.
[06:48] <archaios> it stores primarily FS integrity records
[06:49] <archaios> but reiser3 is more liable to experience data loss with a crash, though filesystem integrity will be intact
[06:49] <NickRivers> what would I use to change the fs on my backup hdd?
[06:49] <archaios> there's a trade off between journalling form and filesystem speed
[06:49] <AWOSDev> Is there any place that sells Linux-compatible modems open during a hurricane?
[06:49] <archaios> NickRivers, ext3 or reiser3 with data journalling enabled
[06:49] <archaios> or xfs
[06:49] <CarlFK> xelados: hoping for a command line way so I can cut/paste int an email
[06:49] <Nutubuntu> archaios - got it - I will go hunt me down more info via google, and not tie up the chan on it, this is interesting to me - the trade-offs in particular
[06:49] <ladydoor> CarlFK: and aptitude definitely does
[06:49] <NickRivers> archaios: not which fs... which program do i use to change the fs?
[06:49] <archaios> Nutubuntu: namesys.com has a great overview of journalling
[06:49] <Nutubuntu> t/y archaios
[06:50] <archaios> NickRivers, you can't change fs without backing it up and performing an mk*fs
[06:50] <archaios> well
[06:50] <archaios> some partition management programs can do it
[06:50] <archaios> but not many
[06:50] <archaios> you can switch from ext2 to ext3 easily
[06:50] <archaios> and vice-versa
[06:50] <archaios> tune2fs -j, etc
[06:50] <xasaya> hello
[06:51] <archaios> NickRivers, if you're currently using ext2, it's a simple matter to change to ext3
[06:51] <xelados> Anyone know where fluxbox stores its included styles by any chance?
[06:51] <NickRivers> archaios: ok... lemme be more specific... I don't care if I wipe out the data on my backup hdd - there's nothing on there that isn't on my system hdd... what prgram do i use to repartition it with a different fs?
[06:51] <archaios> xelados, /usr/share or /usr/local/share somewhere I think
[06:51] <archaios> possibly lib if it's not there
[06:51] <xelados> archaios: Alright, thanks. I'll check.
[06:51] <archaios> NickRivers, well, you don't need to repartition
[06:51] <CarlFK> NickRivers: the ubuntu install cd will do it
[06:51] <archaios> NickRivers, if you want to change to ext3: mke2fs -j
[06:51] <archaios> NickRivers, if you want to change to reiserfs: mkreiserfs
[06:52] <archaios> in either case
[06:52] <NickRivers> archaios: it's reiserfs atm... I want to change it to ext3
[06:52] <xelados> archaios: Yep, it was usr/share/fluxbox/styles
[06:52] <archaios> NickRivers, I recommend you stay with reiserfs
[06:52] <archaios> and enable data journalling
[06:52] <archaios> which is easy enough
[06:52] <corndog_> Anyone have an idea why my computer crashes when I burn a cd? 64bit ubuntu... both gnomebaker and k3b
[06:52] <archaios> higher performance and the same level of safety
[06:52] <NickRivers> archaios: ok - how do I enable data journaling?
[06:52] <CarlFK> NickRivers: why do you want to change, and do you want a fresh OS install?
[06:52] <archaios> NickRivers: one moment
[06:52] <brendonjt> archaios:  what about from fat32
[06:52] <LajujKej> I am still confused about this wireless card.  Ndiswrapper shows the driver and hardware present, but I cannpt connect to networks.
[06:53] <brendonjt> archaios:  what about from fat32 to say ext3  or reiser
[06:53] <archaios> NickRivers, do you have the device name for your backup drive?
[06:53] <LajujKej> I am pretty sure I blacklisted the other driver
[06:53] <AWOSDev> LajujKej: Try wlassistant
[06:53] <NickRivers> archaios: yes
[06:53] <archaios> brendonjt, the only option there is to backup and repartition
[06:53] <archaios> NickRivers, ok, edit /etc/fstab
[06:53] <michael> on the topic of file systems, whats the opinion if ur sharing w/windows?
[06:53] <archaios> NickRivers, find the relevant line
[06:53] <michael> vfat?
[06:53] <archaios> for the backup device
[06:53] <archaios> and paste it
[06:53] <brendonjt> archaios:  i have a backup drive and it is fat32
[06:53] <Madpilot> michael, there are Windows drivers for ext3 available
[06:53] <casey_> michael: i've been using ntfs-3g which has been nice for ntfs support.
[06:54] <CarlFK> michael:  www.fs-driver.org It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access).
[06:54] <LajujKej> AWOSDev that command isn't found
[06:54] <michael> but does it corrupt?
[06:54] <xelados> michael: I'd suggest FAT32. Windows and Linux can both read and write to them. However, I think NTFS write support was recently implemented.
[06:54] <NickRivers> archaios: /dev/sda1       /backups        reiserfs        defaults,notail 0       0
[06:54] <casey_> michael: not so far, it doesn't.
[06:54] <archaios> NickRivers, ok
[06:54] <archaios> change that to...
[06:54] <AWOSDev> LajujKej: try sudo apt-get install wlassistant first :)
[06:54] <Axe_>  /I'm having trouble with a launcher in my applications menu.
[06:54] <archaios> /dev/sda1       /backups        reiserfs        defaults,notail,data=journal 0       0
[06:54] <Axe_> It launches a shell script
[06:54] <michael> tx, ill check it out
[06:54] <Axe_> Yet the terminal opens up and closes real quick
[06:54] <archaios> NickRivers: so, add ",data=journal" after notail
[06:54] <Axe_> why?
[06:54] <NickRivers> archaios: can i do that for my system hdd as well?
[06:54] <archaios> and save the file
[06:55] <archaios> NickRivers: sure
[06:55] <NickRivers> thnx
[06:55] <Axe_> If I double click on said script in nautilus it works fine
[06:55] <LajujKej> AWOSDev is this program similar to network manager, which is what I am running?
[06:55] <archaios> NickRivers: all you need to do is add ,data=journal to the fourth field (the one that contains 'defaults')
[06:55] <xasaya> somebody can help to resolv a problem of rendering under cinelerra?
[06:55] <archaios> NickRivers: then reboot
[06:55] <xelados> Thanks for the help, guys.
[06:55] <AWOSDev> LajujKej: No, it shows you all the different wireless networks available in your range
[06:56] <LajujKej> AWOSDev but I can see these already?
[06:56] <archaios> michael: you can use RFSTool and related GUIs to access ReiserFS Linux partitions from Windows, too
[06:56] <archaios> there's plenty of tools for ext2/3 access of course
[06:57] <zoidberg> what else do i need to play  .wmv .avi quikticme and realplayer fiels that are streaming from a webpage
[06:57] <jpjacobs> zoidberg, mozilla-mplayer?
[06:57] <archaios> mplayer is a good choice
[06:57] <zoidberg> guys is there a gxine plugin for playing streaming files in firefox including .wmv
[06:58] <jpjacobs> zoidberg, there is
[06:58] <archaios> zoidberg, MPlayer is a much better media player in my view
[06:58] <zoidberg> really
[06:58] <archaios> it supports a great deal more formats
[06:58] <zoidberg> damn
[06:58] <zoidberg> okay
[06:58] <zoidberg> so what do i need to install
[06:58] <xasaya> cinelerra? one more time...
[06:58] <archaios> zoidberg, mplayer and mozilla-mplayer as jpjacobs suggested
[06:58] <Nutubuntu> archaios:   thanks for pointing me to namesys.com, interesting site, lots to read there :)
[06:58] <Nutubuntu> Be well, all
[06:58] <archaios> Nutubuntu: yes, it's quite interesting, has in-depth discussion of reiserfs
[06:58] <archaios> damn
[06:58] <archaios> missed him!
[06:58] <jpjacobs> zoidberg, indeed, i tried it, and (maybe it has improved ) back then it sucked: it just opened a new gxine window, and with a whole lot of luck it was playing
[06:59] <archaios> mplayer is very fast and efficient, even played DVDs well on my old celeron 333 without any hardware decoding support
[06:59] <archaios> better than any windows app!
[06:59] <hitjim> 2.6.12-10-386 has a date of Jul 18 this year, is that still the most recent kernel?
[07:00] <zoidberg> i just thought gxine would be better
[07:00] <zoidberg> i like it for playing stuff form my hard drive
[07:00] <zoidberg> but i guess its the way to go for streaming stuff
[07:00] <archaios> hitjim, if you're talking about vanilla kernels, no
[07:00] <archaios> 2.6.17.11 is out, and 2.6.18-rc5
[07:00] <signius> Hi guys
[07:01] <hitjim> figures... used an old install cd
[07:01] <hitjim> thx
[07:01] <zoidberg> by the way guys
[07:01] <signius> Has anyone here managed to succesfully get the version of Evolution in dapper drake to connect to an Exchange 2003 Server
[07:01] <zoidberg> anyone know how to get ATI TV-Wonder card to work on dapper?
[07:01] <Madpilot> hitjim, if you've installed Ubuntu, you'll be updated to the most recent kernel in the repos automatically...
[07:01] <signius> I just get constant authentication failures
[07:02] <hitjim> ya, it's just ubuntu w/kubuntu-desktop &packages etc
[07:02] <cracka12> does anyone know how i software raid 2 drives, these will just data drives (raid0) and mount them on /home
[07:02] <xasaya> its crazy, all ubuntu channel (ubuntu-fr, ubuntu-tw, ubuntu, cinelerra) don't respond me....
[07:02] <kerwonz> :-)
[07:02] <hitjim> ya kind of threw me with vanilla there
[07:02] <xasaya> and it's an important software for linux users like me
[07:02] <archaios> hitjim: sorry, I tend to use vanilla kernels... I'm a little unorthodox ;)
[07:02] <hitjim> hah, fair enough
[07:03] <hitjim> so what flavor is the standard install?
[07:03] <meathead> exit
[07:03] <rage> Can someone point me in the right direction for a package that can be used to be a roaming profile server for Windows boxes? or better yet a guide on how to setup one for a small network?
[07:03] <cracka12> does anyone know how i software raid 2 drives, these will just data drives (raid0) and mount them on a user account
[07:03] <BHSPitLappy> !root
[07:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:04] <kitsuneofdoom> I have been using screen, irssi, ssh, and bitlbee together for a little while, but now I'm suddenly having a whole host of problems. Screen keeps quitting on me and doing funky things, irssi hangs as well
[07:04] <xasaya> houhou, there is someone?
[07:04] <hitjim> well... back to trying to get my onboard broadcom wifi to work.  ndiswrapper, here we come
[07:05] <kitsuneofdoom> Actually, it's only had problems when I've been talking over wifi
[07:05] <cafuego_> hitjim: A 4306 or 4318 can use the normal free driver (with firmware).
[07:05] <dougsko> umm...what do you guys get when you run 'which cd'? for some crazy reason, it doesnt return anything for me
[07:05] <dougsko> i cant find the cd command. but it does work
[07:06] <brendonjt> i formated my second hdd to ext3  how do i automount it
[07:06] <dougsko> i know it should be at /bin/cd, but its not
[07:06] <Jukru> dougsko: maybe "cd" is shell built-in command?
[07:06] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok. I have been using screen over ssh to access an irssi session which also has bitlbee running over it, and everything started to spontaneously quit on me when I accessed it over wifi.
[07:06] <hitjim> hmm... i'll give it a shot
[07:06] <hitjim> thx
[07:06] <dougsko> brendonjt: add it to /etc/fstab
[07:07] <kitsuneofdoom> well, not quit, it hung. and then stopped working
[07:07] <dougsko> kitsuneofdoom: maybe your connection  lost strength?
[07:07] <hitjim> is that the madwifi?
[07:07] <brendonjt> ok and the options for all users?
[07:07] <CarlFK> dougsko: man bash... /cd... "HOME   The home directory of the current user; the default argument for              the cd builtin command.  ":
[07:07] <hitjim> cafuego?
[07:07] <dougsko> Jukru: hmm...i didnt know it worked like that. i thought cd was its own program
[07:07] <kitsuneofdoom>  dougsko: but the screen session on the SERVING computr crashed
[07:08] <Ademan> is there any easy way to change the packages that the liveCD will run with?
[07:08] <kitsuneofdoom> dougsko: if the connection was lost, if I looked at the serving computers scren session, it should still be operational
[07:08] <dougsko> kitsuneofdoom: thats wierd
[07:08] <cafuego_> hitjim: wiki.ubuntu.com -> search for bcm43xx - follow the instructions :-)
[07:09] <hitjim> indeed.  ty
[07:09] <Ashex> what's the proper syntax for checking out from an svn?
[07:09] <dougsko> kitsuneofdoom: yeah
[07:09] <AWOSDev> I found that for the 4318, it's easier and works better if you use NDISwrapper.
[07:09] <Ashex> such as this one: http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/browser/trunk
[07:09] <dougsko> kitsuneofdoom: does screen crash during the use of other programs?
[07:09] <kitsuneofdoom> dougsko: Well, I haven't tested it much, I'm normally using irssi and bitlbee
[07:10] <dougsko> kitsuneofdoom: its gotta be something small. im using that exact same setup right now
[07:10] <SpComb> cracka12: mdadm --create --level=0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/md0 /dev/sdc /dev/sdb && mkfs.ext3 /dev/md0 && mkdir /mnt/data/ && mount /dev/md0 /mnt/data/ .... tell me if you figure out how to make it automatically assemble the raid on bootup though
[07:10] <CarlFK> Ashex:  svn checkout svn://...
[07:10] <CarlFK> Ashex: not sure about svn and http access
[07:10] <dougsko> does it work ok if youre wired?
[07:11] <kitsuneofdoom> dougsko: oddly enough, I don't recall as much problems when the laptop I had been connecting to it over wifi was on windows
[07:11] <brendonjt> dougsko: what about the options  and the likes  don't really get that  off hand
[07:11] <Ashex> yeah, i'm don't feel like downloading one file at a time
[07:11] <blfisher> When using iptables to masquerade my LAN, I can get on the internet but cannot connect to IRC from the LAN
[07:11] <kitsuneofdoom> dougsko: no problems wired
[07:11] <blfisher> Does anyone know why this might be happening?
[07:11] <kitsuneofdoom> dougsko: it might be an error with the Linux wifi driver?
[07:11] <kitsuneofdoom> dougsko: I have a broadcom 4319
[07:12] <wubrgamer> how do i change ssh from port 22 to port 443
[07:12] <dougsko> kitsuneofdoom: thats always a possibility i guess. wireless and linux really kinda sucks
[07:12] <wubrgamer> to listen etc.
[07:12] <Jukru> wubrgamer: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[07:12] <cafuego_> kitsuneofdoom: I don't know if that one is actually supported yet by the version of bcm43xx in Dapper.
[07:12] <dougsko> brendonjt: what options do you mean?
[07:12] <cafuego_> wubrgamer: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[07:12] <kitsuneofdoom> cafuego_ and dougsko: you got to admit, it's a really odd bug
[07:13] <wubrgamer> what about /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[07:13] <wubrgamer> not the sshd one but just ssh
[07:13] <wubrgamer> cause there are two files
[07:13] <wubrgamer> and i'm confuzzles
[07:13] <brendonjt> read write for all users
[07:13] <cafuego_> wubrgamer: No, I'd have said it if I had meant that one ;-)
[07:13] <Jukru> wubrgamer: just edit sshd_config
[07:13] <dougsko> kitsuneofdoom: yeah, what wlan driver do you use?
[07:13] <brendonjt> dougsko: read write for all userws
[07:13] <wubrgamer> but what IS ssh_config ? what's the difference ?
[07:13] <kitsuneofdoom> dougsko: the fwcutter one
[07:13] <archaios> ssh_config is for the client
[07:13] <mikey3521> Hey, Would anyone here beable to offer me some support with a DellPowerEdge/ UbuntuServerInstall & PercRaid? I've had the server for almost 2 weeks and havn't beenable to get it working, and no-one seems to have an answer...
[07:14] <wubrgamer> that's the main thing confuzzling me
[07:14] <archaios> sshd_config is for the server
[07:14] <wubrgamer> aah
[07:14] <wubrgamer> thank you
[07:14] <wubrgamer> so one more thing
[07:14] <wubrgamer> if i DO edit the client one
[07:14] <wubrgamer> what happens ?
[07:14] <dougsko> kitsuneofdoom: oh, ive never even heard of that one... :P
[07:14] <archaios> nothing
[07:14] <archaios> wubrgamer, if you add a server parameter to the client config, it won't do anything
[07:14] <wubrgamer> no
[07:14] <cafuego_> wubrgamer: You could add an entry on client to ssh_config and tell it to sue port 443 when connection to that specific server.
[07:14] <wubrgamer> no
[07:14] <archaios> 443 is SSL
[07:14] <archaios> why would you do that?
[07:14] <wubrgamer> but what if i replace 22 to 443
[07:15] <cafuego_> archaios: Hole in firewall
[07:15] <wubrgamer> so i can evade my schools blocking of port 22
[07:15] <wubrgamer> thank you
[07:15] <dougsko> brendonjt: im sorry, what program are you setting up?
[07:15] <archaios> wubrgamer, if port 22 is blocked, use another port
[07:15] <CarlFK> mikey3521: I would post to the -server list - the raid is goingto need someone special
[07:15] <archaios> not a "well-known" port
[07:15] <archaios> besides
[07:15] <wubrgamer> i am
[07:15] <archaios> many schools/universities/etc. block port 80 and 443, or require transparent proxying
[07:15] <wubrgamer> what ?
[07:15] <archaios> better to use an unusual port
[07:15] <wubrgamer> really ?
[07:15] <brendonjt> dougsko: fstab  to allow me access to my second harddrive
[07:15] <archaios> wubrgamer, yes
[07:16] <archaios> my institution, for one, blocks port 80 unless you use their proxy
[07:16] <mikey3521> Carlfx, Where can i post to this list?
[07:16] <dougsko> brendonjt: oh ok, my fault :)
[07:16] <wubrgamer> oh
[07:16] <wubrgamer> but can't i just use their proxy to connect to my home account ?
[07:16] <wubrgamer> on port 443 ?
[07:16] <brendonjt> dougsko: noworries
[07:16] <dougsko> brendonjt: a good thing to do is just look at how your other drives are mounted
[07:16] <archaios> wubrgamer, yes
[07:16] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok. I've got a bizarre problem here. When I try to connect to a screen session over secure shell running irssi and bitlbee with my 64-bit laptop to my 32-bit desktop, both running Dapper 6.06, using my broadcom 4319 card and the fwcutter driver (the 64 bit one) screen or irssi crash a lot
[07:16] <archaios> even through a proxy, you can
[07:16] <archaios> because CONNECT is permitted explicitly for 443 on all proxies that support SSL HTTP
[07:16] <CarlFK> mikey3521: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server
[07:17] <archaios> wubrgamer, but if you can use a port other than 443
[07:17] <archaios> I would advise it
[07:17] <wubrgamer> kk
[07:17] <dougsko> brendonjt: you have it mounted already you said?
[07:17] <wubrgamer> i'll try em both out
[07:17] <NickRivers> anyone know how I would go about adding terminal to the right-click menu on my desktop?
[07:17] <wubrgamer> @nickrivers what are you using ?
[07:17] <archaios> wubrgamer, use a non-standard port so that you're not conflicting with a "well-known" service port
[07:17] <dougsko> NickRivers: what wm?
[07:17] <cafuego_> NickRivers: install nautilus-open-terminal
[07:17] <NickRivers> wubrgamer: gnome
[07:17] <archaios> wubrgamer, lest you need to run an SSL-capable httpd someday
[07:17] <wubrgamer> what do you mean conflict ?
[07:18] <stacy> hi all... I got the "Blue screen of death" when I tried to upgrade to dapper... I saw this: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue and did everything it says, but I still get the bluescreen when I boot into Ubuntu... any help?
[07:18] <archaios> wubrgamer, ports are allocated with the IANA (/etc/services et al) for specific purposes
[07:18] <brendonjt> nope i formated it  to ext3  and trying to mount it
[07:18] <archaios> you can use any port for any service
[07:18] <wubrgamer> oh wow
[07:18] <archaios> but it's not recommended
[07:18] <cafuego_> wubrgamer: As long as the port you want to run sshd on is not already in use, pick whichever one you want.
[07:18] <brendonjt> dougsko:nope i formated it  to ext3  and trying to mount it
[07:18] <archaios> because it can cause all sorts of confusion
[07:18] <dougsko> brendonjt: what's the drive called?
[07:18] <dougsko> brendonjt: like /dev/hdb4 or something?
[07:18] <archaios> wubrgamer, are you able to make outgoing connections on ports > 5000 for example?
[07:18] <wubrgamer> i'm not sure
[07:19] <wubrgamer> but the main thing is that i'm not going to be hosting anything on 443
[07:19] <archaios> wubrgamer, find out, and preferably use such a port :P
[07:19] <brendonjt> dougsko: /dev/hdb1  <mount point> /media/misc
[07:19] <wubrgamer> but i'm not HOSTING anything on 443
[07:19] <archaios> wubrgamer, I know you're not, but it's best practice
[07:19] <archaios> wubrgamer, anyway, if they force you to use a proxy for outgoing HTTP and SSL connections, 443 may not be the best choice
[07:19] <brendonjt> dougsko: i want it so all users  can access it read/write
[07:19] <wubrgamer> why not ?
[07:19] <archaios> wubrgamer, do you require a proxy setup in your browser at school?
[07:20] <wubrgamer> @archaios, move into Pm, we are dominating the channel
[07:21] <dougsko> brendonjt: add a line to /ets/fstab like this:
[07:21] <dougsko> /dev/hdb4       /mnt/hdb        ext3    defaults        0       0
[07:22] <dougsko> change the /dev/ and the mount point
[07:22] <dougsko> and that's all on one line
[07:22] <corndog_> Whats the best way to trace a system crash?
[07:23] <dougsko> corndog_: dmesg is helpful sometimes
[07:23] <stacy>  hi all... I got the "Blue screen of death" when I tried to upgrade to dapper... I saw this: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue and did everything it says, but I still get the bluescreen when I boot into Ubuntu... any help?
[07:23] <dougsko> brendonjt: did you add the line?
[07:24] <corndog_> dougsko, thanks ill read up on that
[07:24] <tomasz27> is it hard to setup DREAMWEAVER using WINE under Ubuntu?
[07:24] <brendonjt> dougsko: yip thanks
[07:24] <dougsko> corndog_: just type 'dmesg'
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> stacy: what kind of video card do you have?
[07:24] <fr500> hello
[07:24] <dougsko> brendonjt: ok, now to mount it, type 'mount -a'
[07:25] <dougsko> brendonjt: and then type 'mount' to confirm that it worked
[07:25] <xasaya> some cinelerra users?
[07:25] <corndog_> dougsko, is this mainly used for bootup?
[07:25] <stacy> fyrestrtr: not sure... how do I check?
[07:26] <dougsko> corndog_: yes, but if you crash, you can boot into single user mode and read it. it writes over itself on boot
[07:26] <corndog_> dougsko, ok thanks.. time to go force the crash then
[07:26] <fr500> when i try to install gstreamer-plugins ugly multiverse it says liblame not available, why?
[07:27] <irawan> dear all, I've got xubuntu, what would be the easy app to manage printers?
[07:27] <AWOSDev> If I unplug my PCMCIA wireless card I won't have to reboot to get it working again right?
[07:27] <dougsko> corndog_: read up on how to get into single user mode, i forget how to stop the boot process
[07:27] <irawan> or easy way to manage printers
[07:27] <dougsko> corndog_: then you type something like, boot -s
[07:27] <brendonjt> dougsko: it is there just going to check to see if i can read write to it now
[07:27] <dougsko> brendonjt: cool
[07:28] <AWOSDev> It's a Broadcom Air Force 4318
[07:28] <AWOSDev> with NDISwrapper drivers
[07:28] <brendonjt> dougsko: ok  should there be a folder there  called lost+found ?
[07:28] <dougsko> brendonjt: yeah
[07:28] <dougsko> brendonjt: you can get rid of it
[07:28] <cafuego_> ndiswrapper, who knows?
[07:29] <brendonjt> dougsko: ok  thank you i have learnt something from you today  something to add to my lessons
[07:29] <AWOSDev> That better be sarcasm I hear in your voice, cafuego_ :)
[07:29] <AWOSDev> I guess it's worth a shot, here goes, well, my perfect uptime rating
[07:29] <dougsko> brendonjt: np
[07:30] <castillo> hey, what's up!! i'm new in linux, any good advice?
[07:30] <fr500> castillo: try it!
[07:30] <AWOSDev> Get the "Beginning Ubuntu" book that just came out
[07:30] <castillo> where can i find it?
[07:30] <AWOSDev> At any bookstore :P
[07:31] <brendonjt> dougsko: umm only root has write permission  what  do i need to do to change it to all users
[07:31] <AWOSDev> I personally saw it the other day while browsing the UNIX section in Barnes & Noble Booksellers.
[07:31] <archaios> brendonjt, mount -o uid=xx,gid=xx
[07:31] <AWOSDev> How do I know if Ubuntu detected my new PCMCIA card or not?
[07:31] <castillo> yeah, i know that but the thing is that i live in guatemala
[07:31] <archaios> brendonjt, or specify it in the fourth field of fstab
[07:32] <archaios> brendonjt, there's also umask=xxx
[07:32] <archaios> and mode=xxx
[07:32] <archaios> any of those will help you set the appropriate permissions
[07:32] <AWOSDev> castillo: Try the Internet
[07:32] <archaios> brendonjt, who do you want to have access to this mount?
[07:32] <cafuego_> AWOSDev: `dmesg' is your favourite command.
[07:32] <brendonjt> dougsko: ok  i want to do that at boot up  so in the 4th field  change the 0 to umask=xxx
[07:33] <xasaya> new channel #ubuntu-jp
[07:33] <michelp> directly off topic, but can anyone who speaks german tell me what Biete means?  I swear it's indirectly related to Ubuntu ;)
[07:33] <brendonjt> dougsko: all users  on my system
[07:33] <archaios> brendonjt, ok
[07:34] <castillo> didin't you ment bitte?
[07:34] <archaios> brendonjt, change field 4 from "defaults" to "defaults,mode=777"
[07:34] <archaios> brendonjt, in /etc/fstab
[07:34] <archaios> then save it and reboot
[07:34] <michelp> no, Biete, as in a link on a app i'm trying to translate entitled 'Biete - Suche'
[07:34] <archaios> that will give all users write access, brendonjt
[07:34] <AWOSDev> cafuego_ -- uh, there's nothing in there since boot time
[07:34] <AWOSDev> and then the "eth1 removed"
[07:34] <archaios> actually, brendonjt
[07:34] <archaios> is that ext3?
[07:34] <archaios> if so, forget what I just said
[07:34] <archaios> and do...
[07:35] <cafuego_> AWOSDev: Then I would hazard it didn't redetect the wifi card.
[07:35] <archaios> chmod -R 777 /mnt/hdb
[07:35] <archaios> when /mnt/hdb is mounted
[07:35] <archaios> (as root)
[07:35] <archaios> so,
[07:35] <archaios> sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/hdb
[07:35] <AWOSDev> No, I removed the WiFi card to insert a PCMCIA modem
[07:35] <AWOSDev> I'm downgrading :P
[07:35] <cafuego_> archaios: 775; Note using groups.
[07:35] <brendonjt> dougsko: so i change it back  to what  it was and type the above then
[07:36] <AWOSDev> Is there something like lspcmcia?
[07:36] <castillo> do you guys know wich antivirus is the best for linux?
[07:36] <AWOSDev> If there's an lspci, lsmod, ...
[07:36] <archaios> cafuego_, he said all users
[07:36] <archaios> 777 is appropriate for all users
[07:36] <AWOSDev> castillo: That's the beauty
[07:36] <AWOSDev> castillo: We don't have viruses! :)
[07:36] <AWOSDev> castillo: Okay, we've had two in 15 years.
[07:36] <AWOSDev> castillo: Still worried?  :P
[07:37] <cafuego_> archaios: Yes, except he's better off not letting 'nobody' access the files and use a specific group.
[07:37] <miked> is there a way to make it so if your using nautilus over ssh/ftp you can chmod files?
[07:37] <castillo> i don't know because i changed switched today from windows to linux
[07:37] <signius> Finally got Evolution to connect to the Exchange Server and it has the most unclear way of connecting that really needs to be addressed
[07:37] <AWOSDev> castillo: I know, I was just saying :)
[07:38] <signius> it requires domain\username for the username not just the username
[07:38] <archaios> cafuego_, I'm just going by what he said... but nobody is not a concern if you're not running any daemons as that uid
[07:38] <castillo> yea
[07:38] <luigi> is safe to update after that bugged one?
[07:38] <luigi> i haven't updated that one yet
[07:38] <cafuego_> archaios: Invariably people are. it's better to keep it more secure.
[07:38] <signius> none if that is explained in the evolution full documentation
[07:38] <brendonjt> dougsko: so will i have to do that command  when i boot up each time?
[07:38] <castillo> that's why i have millions of questions about linux
[07:38] <infidel> anyone install xgl here that can give me a quick hand?
[07:39] <thomas> can anyone tell me why my wireless will get an ip on the network, but won't be able to access anything on it?\
[07:39] <castillo> but aventually they will vanish
[07:39] <AWOSDev> thomas: Same problem here, still don't know why :(
[07:39] <jake1> is anyone aware of a program that is compatable with Microsoft Entourage and Outlook schedules
[07:39] <thomas> argh!
[07:39] <jake1> for Ubuntu
[07:39] <archaios> cafuego_, if I were running a server, I wouldn't be using ubuntu, since it's aimed primarily at end-users...
[07:39] <AWOSDev> jake1: Evolution
[07:40] <AWOSDev> jake1: At least it was last I used it (which was in Novell/SuSE)
[07:40] <cafuego_> archaios: No excuse is good enough for bad security behaviour.
[07:40] <cafuego_> Not even never turning the system on and puring it in concrete.
[07:40] <jake1> AWOSDev: will that sync with schedules from people who use outlook
[07:40] <jake1> or entourage
[07:40] <jake1> if they invite me
[07:40] <AWOSDev> archaios: Um, Ubuntu actually just got the eWEEK Best Linux Server OS award :)
[07:40] <wweasel> Does anyone here know how to make the aMSN menus look nicer? I've read it's possible, but I forget how
[07:40] <AWOSDev> jake1: I believe so, I didn't really get to use it very much
[07:41] <AWOSDev> jake1: I
[07:41] <jake1> supposebly microsoft will be releasing a linux version of their office
[07:41] <AWOSDev> jake1: I'm too busy for a schedule :P
[07:41] <luigi> lol
[07:41] <Lilandra> huh?
[07:41] <AWOSDev> jake1: If that actually happens
[07:41] <fr500> wweasel: hmmm use gaim wweasel
[07:41] <AWOSDev> jake1: I'll will be first in line to buy it :)
[07:41] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> I DONT LIKE MICROSOFT
[07:41] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> lol
[07:42] <Lilandra> and how much would they charge us?
[07:42] <wweasel> fr500: When I ask a question for support for one App, and people say "Use this app, I use it" it pisses me off. Know why? Cause it's completely counter-productive. Clearly you don't know how to help me, keep it to yourself.
[07:42] <luigi> is safe to update after that bugged one, i havn't updated since i knew it was bad
[07:42] <stacy> fyrestrtr: Trident Video Accelerator CyberBlade XP Ai1 v59030 008A 22ICDNP
[07:42] <archaios> stacy: eww
[07:42] <archaios> that's a terrible graphics card :P
[07:42] <archaios> I used to have one
[07:42] <stacy> its olk
[07:42] <bluefox83> jake1, why the hell would microsoft release a linux version of MS office when we already have OpenOffice?
[07:42] <archaios> it's very unfriendly on Linux
[07:42] <stacy> old
[07:42] <archaios> runs horrifically slowly
[07:43] <archaios> stacy, yeah I know
[07:43] <luigi> is safe to update after that bugged one, i havn't updated since i knew it was bad
[07:43] <stacy> can i run dapper on it?
[07:43] <archaios> I had one up until a year ago :P
[07:43] <jake1> it's more for outlook than their entire office package
[07:43] <archaios> stacy, sure
[07:43] <corndog_> wweasel, you must also realize this is the second or third time you have come into an OS support channel requesting software support
[07:43] <archaios> stacy, but X (the GUI) doesn't run well on it
[07:43] <stacy> so how do I fix the BSOD?
[07:43] <jake1> outlook is very important to business ppl
[07:43] <archaios> stacy, it runs very slowly
[07:43] <bluefox83> jake1, we don't need outlook, there's evolution...
[07:43] <luigi> is safe to update after that bugged one, i havn't updated since i knew it was bad
[07:43] <archaios> stacy, because it doesn't have hardware accelerated support, even with the trident driver
[07:43] <irawan> found it, I just install gnome-cups-manager for printer management in xubuntu
[07:43] <archaios> stacy, (no OpenGL, no DRI)
[07:43] <corndog_> wweasel, people offer other packages that you might not be aware of and you still get an attitude
[07:44] <rredd4> luigi  you mean for x, yes.. make sure your repo is updated    sudo apt-get update
[07:44] <fr500> wweasel: well sorry man, then, fiddle with qt settings a bit, but it's not much you can do
[07:44] <stacy> archaios: sorry... i don't know what that means
[07:44] <archaios> stacy, I suggest you get a new gfx card if you want to be able to run anything demanding, like anything 3D (OpenGL)
[07:44] <castillo> does anybody know what games are aviable for ubuntu?
[07:44] <luigi> kkkkkk THANK RREDD4
[07:44] <fr500> wweasel: it's like xmms, i never get it to look right
[07:44] <archaios> stacy, it means that the graphics card will run very slowly on Linux
[07:44] <stacy> don't need 3D
[07:44] <stacy> that's ok
[07:44] <rredd4> luigi  you should be downloading  version 10.4
[07:44] <stacy> i just want to be able to run gdm
[07:44] <wweasel> castillo: Check it out under Add and Remove Programs.
[07:44] <archaios> stacy, should work
[07:44] <rredd4> luigi  10.3 was the buggy one
[07:44] <archaios> stacy, it did for me
[07:44] <stacy> i still get the BSOD
[07:45] <castillo> ok, thanks
[07:45] <archaios> stacy, what does the BSOD say exactly
[07:45] <stacy> i tried to upgrade during the buggy thingo
[07:45] <wweasel> fr500: Sorry I snapped at you, I've clearly been awake too long. It is a pet peeve of mine, but you didn't deserve that.
[07:45] <jake1> bluefox83: but can you accept invites from clients or colleagues who use outlook
[07:45] <rredd4> luigi  you can go to the ubuntu web site for help also
[07:45] <jake1> or entourage
[07:45] <fr500> wweasel: np
[07:45] <jake1> i haven't tried it yet
[07:45] <stacy> archaios: just like it shows here: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[07:45] <jake1> but i want to see if it works
[07:45] <archaios> jake1: outlook may be important to you
[07:45] <bluefox83> jake1, what kind of invites?
[07:45] <castillo> sorry for asking stupid quiestions but it's my first day as a ubuntu user
[07:45] <archaios> but it's not "very important for business ppl"
[07:45] <jake1> schedule syncing
[07:45] <archaios> most people I know only use outlook as a basic mail client, jake1
[07:46] <archaios> all my business clients included
[07:46] <bluefox83> jake1, possibly..i've never tried it before
[07:46] <jake1> wow......... ur bussiness clients are dumb
[07:46] <archaios> jake1, no they're not...
[07:46] <jake1> i use it to schedule my mettings
[07:46] <archaios> jake1, it's just not necessary -_-
[07:46] <jake1> meetings*
[07:46] <wweasel> fr500: Check this out, this guy has it right: http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/Icons/Emerald-Skin_mainWindow.png :P
[07:46] <bluefox83> actually using outlook like that is a bad idea concidering how bad of a security vulnerability it is
[07:46] <jake1> and keep in sync with ppl at work
[07:46] <archaios> jake1, Outlook is highly insecure anyway
[07:47] <archaios> as bluefox83 rightly points out
[07:47] <brendonjt> what is the terminal  command for move?
[07:47] <hitjim> mv
[07:47] <jake1> that's not the point
[07:47] <archaios> jake1, but I doubt Ubuntu supports what you want
[07:47] <hitjim> I got one!
[07:47] <archaios> schedule syncing and such are proprietary Microsoft features
[07:47] <Green_Mage> Hello
[07:47] <stacy> archaios: it does seem to be a video problem... when I go to the login prompt, the bottom 2 inches are always black... i can't see what's happening
[07:47] <archaios> and I don't think there's any open source client for that
[07:47] <hitjim> or to play it safe, you could just use "cp"
[07:47] <archaios> jake1, it may be possible to run Outlook using WINE though
[07:47] <castillo> so, all the programs i need are in add and remove?
[07:47] <jake1> which is probably why microsoft is releasing a linux version
[07:47] <hitjim> and rm the old file, when the new one is in the place you want
[07:48] <Green_Mage> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but I keep getting a "CD-ROM not detected, please insert driver disk" error
[07:48] <archaios> jake1, wine can run Outlook to do what you want
[07:48] <hitjim> all those were for "brendonjt"
[07:48] <bluefox83> archaios, there's no reason to think you couldn't do that with a simple plugin in evolution...
[07:48] <jake1> archaios i dnt think that my computer can take WINE
[07:48] <archaios> stacy: it's plausible that it does not support your graphics card without a work-around
[07:48] <jake1> cuz it's a 64-bit
[07:48] <fr500> wweasel: let's see
[07:48] <archaios> stacy: I remember that the CyberBlade XP is only supported using the vesa driver
[07:48] <archaios> the Ubuntu setup may not be using it
[07:48] <stacy> anybody know a linux geek in Tucson, AZ who could help me?  I can pay... a bit...
[07:49] <archaios> BlueEagle, the communications protocols are closed and proprietary
[07:49] <archaios> err
[07:49] <archaios> bluefox83 even
[07:49] <archaios> bluefox83, whilst it could be done, I don't think it actually has been done
[07:49] <brendonjt> hitjim:  as i backup some stuff onto my ipod and wanting to move it back,  in X  it tell me i/o error
[07:49] <archaios> bluefox83, few people actually use it
[07:49] <archaios> even among business Outlook users...
[07:49] <thomas> is there a network manager applet for kde?
[07:49] <AWOSDev> stacy, if you want to fly out to Florida after the hurricane I can help :P
[07:49] <bluefox83> archaios, i don't think any business would be foolish enough to actually rely on anything like that..least i hope not..
[07:49] <archaios> bluefox83, I agree
[07:49] <rredd4> stacy  ask your question, maybe we can help you!
[07:49] <AWOSDev> I only charge ~$50 (depending on what's wrong)
[07:50] <archaios> bluefox83, none of my clients (even all those in the IT industry) use that feature
[07:50] <bluefox83> AWOSDev, what part of florida you in?
[07:50] <archaios> bluefox83, it's actually a relic that dates back to Windows for Workgroups 3.11 -- Schedule+
[07:50] <AWOSDev> the South area
[07:50] <archaios> bluefox83, they simply rebranded it and integrated it into Outlook
[07:50] <AWOSDev> like where the hurricane's going :P
[07:50] <hitjim> so you're wanting to move stuff from your ipod to your linux box?
[07:50] <bluefox83> AWOSDev, i live up by Gainesville
[07:50] <AWOSDev> closer to West Palm Beach than Miami
[07:51] <AWOSDev> but I don't disclose actual locations on IRC :)
[07:51] <archaios> jake1, can't take WINE? WINE is a Windows emulator, if you're thinking it's something else
[07:51] <archaios> jake1, but any modern PC can use it
[07:51] <AWOSDev> I'm so confused
[07:51] <archaios> jake1, it requires minimal system resources
[07:51] <HellDragon> ne 1 cn help me i nd a real time lin00kx
[07:51] <dangson> does anyone know where I can download the glib package?
[07:51] <HellDragon> lol just kidding
[07:51] <bluefox83> AWOSDev, heh..just wondering if you weren't an old freind of my family...he used to live in Ocala and would fix my parent's computers back in the dos days
[07:51] <jake1> archaios no.... not if it's a 32-bit build
[07:51] <AWOSDev> No, but I know more about DOS than any decent person ought to :P
[07:51] <bluefox83> HellDragon, you have the same nick as my grilfreind..that's kinda creepy..
[07:52] <HellDragon> lol really ?
[07:52] <archaios> jake1, x64 Linux installations can use 32-bit binaries...
[07:52] <jake1> sometimes
[07:52] <dmsantam> dangson apt-cache search glib| grep ^libglib
[07:52] <bluefox83> AWOSDev, your name wouldn't be Dan would it?
[07:52] <stacy> rredd4: I'm still getting the BSOD even after doing the fix recommended after installing a bad version of Dapper
[07:52] <AWOSDev> No, it's actually Andrew
[07:52] <Lilandra> what about ppc and wine?
[07:52] <jake1> i've heard wine does not work on the amd 64
[07:52] <archaios> jake1, also, wine can be built for 64-bit
[07:52] <archaios> no.
[07:52] <bluefox83> ok..lol
[07:52] <archaios> it does work.
[07:52] <archaios> I assure you!~
[07:52] <dangson> dmsantam, thanks!
[07:52] <archaios> jake1, my AMD64 4000+ certainly runs wine as both a 32-bit and a 64-bit binary
[07:52] <infidel> how come every time i search for something in synaptics i gt no return/
[07:52] <AWOSDev> Does anybody know where I could find PCMCIA anything on Linux?
[07:53] <dmsantam> dangson np
[07:53] <rredd4> stacy    you mean the x bug?
[07:53] <AWOSDev> NOT CardBus, real, raw, PCMCIA from the 1990s.
[07:53] <archaios> rredd4, it's not an X bug in her case
[07:53] <Lilandra> Can I run wine on PPC?
[07:53] <archaios> she's using a highly unsupported graphics card, rredd4
[07:53] <bluefox83> infidel, make sure your sources.list isn't empty...
[07:53] <rredd4> oh
[07:53] <rredd4> i c
[07:53] <rredd4> hmmm
[07:53] <archaios> rredd4, the Trident CyberBlade XP isn't supported by any X installation except as a framebuffer (vesafb) or vesa driver
[07:53] <stacy> rredd4: looks just like it does here: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[07:53] <AWOSDev> Please?  I need the modem because of the hurricane.  It's the only way I'll be able to connect (seeing as I have cable)
[07:53] <hitjim> exit
[07:53] <jake1> actually it would require some fussing with in order to get it to work
[07:53] <archaios> stacy: yes, the same message, but a different cause
[07:53] <infidel> bluefox83: i have several repositories checked
[07:54] <archaios> jake1: wine always requires configuration
[07:54] <archaios> jake1: it's not meant to be "easy"
[07:54] <archaios> jake1: it's meant to be functional
[07:54] <meathead> I'll paypal four dollars to anyone who can help me burn one dvd in ubuntu
[07:54] <stacy> can I just go back to Breezy?
[07:54] <AWOSDev> Actually, archaios, I just downloaded the binaries and instantly I got it to work
[07:54] <bluefox83> infidel, what are you looking for?
[07:54] <Green_Mage> How does one go about getting help in here? Is there a line?
[07:54] <meathead> I'd like to note, that ubuntu sucks, and every burning program I've tried gives me strange errors
[07:54] <AWOSDev> meathead -- I can help!
[07:54] <dmsantam> meathead $4? you're gonna have to go to #ubuntu-slave-labor
[07:54] <archaios> AWOSDev, yes, but if you want to optimise it and get it running well
[07:54] <archaios> you really do need to edit wine_config
[07:54] <dmsantam> :P
[07:55] <AWOSDev> archaios: it's called winecfg, super easy
[07:55] <meathead> AWOSDev: you SURE you can help?
[07:55] <archaios> AWOSDev, especially if you're using apps that are heavily reliant on windows-specific features
[07:55] <archaios> such as TAPI
[07:55] <archaios> AWOSDev, I don't like it!
[07:55] <Axe_> meathead: what apps have you tried
[07:55] <AWOSDev> meathead, I can sure give it a shot for $4 :P
[07:55] <bluefox83> meathead, you sure you aren't experiencing ID10T errors?
[07:55] <mkquist_> hey is the update safe now?
[07:55] <stacy> archaios: can I just go back to Breezy?
[07:55] <dmsantam> Green_Mage just ask a good question
[07:55] <infidel> bluefox83: xgl, compiz, plugins, flash
[07:55] <archaios> stacy: have you tried the fix given on the site?
[07:55] <Green_Mage> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu
[07:55] <dmsantam> mkquist_ what update?
[07:55] <meathead> gnomebaker, the built in ubuntu support, nerolinux
[07:55] <jake1> well archaios show me a link that explains how to do it
[07:55] <stacy> archaios: yes
[07:55] <dmsantam> Green_Mage that's not a question. let alone a good question.
[07:55] <jake1> cuz i've been looking
[07:55] <archaios> stacy: and it didn't work?
[07:55] <Green_Mage> It says there's no CD-ROM drive detected
[07:56] <infidel> bluefox83: i didn't have the unerversal checked though
[07:56] <meathead> bluefox83: positive.
[07:56] <mkquist_> the one that crashed everyones x server last week
[07:56] <stacy> archaios: nope
[07:56] <meathead> bluefox83: I'm no meathead.
[07:56] <Green_Mage> And it asks for a driver disk
[07:56] <Axe_> meathead: I just installed ubuntu last night, I installed gnomebaker, it works fine
[07:56] <bluefox83> infidel, you need to make sure you have the unsupported and restricted boxes checked for all your sources...
[07:56] <archaios> jake1: AWOSDev may be able to help more than I can, I tend to configure such things manually
[07:56] <dfd> hello
[07:56] <meathead> Axe_: good for you. die.
[07:56] <bluefox83> meathead, riiiight
[07:56] <archaios> stacy: try going back to breezy...
[07:56] <Axe_> meathead: Have you considered the fact that the problem might be with your burner and not with ubuntu
[07:56] <archaios> stacy: but I think it's really time to get a new gfx card
[07:56] <archaios> stacy: even an old geforce 2 only costs $20 or so
[07:56] <Axe_> meathead: don't be fag, we are trying to help you here :P
[07:56] <dmsantam> meathead your nickname is a good description of you
[07:56] <Axe_> a
[07:56] <meathead> Axe_: I have, except that it works fine in windows, with every windows program
[07:56] <Lynoure> !language
[07:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:57] <meathead> dmsantam: thank you. die
[07:57] <stacy> archaios: it's a laptop... that might be expensive
[07:57] <archaios> meathead: are you using ide-scsi or directly as IDE?
[07:57] <meathead> IDE
[07:57] <archaios> stacy: true
[07:57] <Green_Mage> So my question is: "Why do I get a 'CD-ROM drive not detected' error when I try to install Ubuntu?"
[07:57] <jake1> archaios: every article i am reading are ppl complaining over the fact that they cnt get Wine to work on AMD64
[07:57] <Axe_> meathead: is it a DVD burner too, or just a regular cd burner, and what is the model
[07:57] <jake1> due to the fact that it requires 32-bit libraries
[07:57] <archaios> stacy: I had an AGP card that used that chipset.. it was unusual, because that chipset was mainly used in laptops
[07:57] <AWOSDev> meathead: do you have dvd+rw-tools?
[07:57] <xasaya> new channel #ubuntu-netart
[07:57] <archaios> jake1: that depends on what build you're using
[07:57] <dmsantam> xasaya what is it for
[07:57] <jake1> which do not exist on the 64bit build of Dapper
[07:57] <archaios> jake1: I build from source.
[07:57] <jason> hello.?
[07:57] <archaios> jake1: which is guaranteed to work
[07:57] <meathead> I have dvd+rw-tools installed, newest version, it's an "optowrite" I believe, generic brand..
[07:58] <foo> How can I clear the mailq with postfix?
[07:58] <archaios> meathead: you'll probably need to play with the kernel
[07:58] <archaios> specifically
[07:58] <meathead> burns audio cds fine and reads discs fine, so I know it works
[07:58] <archaios> ide-scsi (SCSI emulation) enabled and disabled
[07:58] <archaios> until you get a working configuration
[07:58] <jason> am i on here or what?
[07:58] <archaios> jason, you are
[07:58] <jason> cool
[07:58] <meathead> archaios: that's why there's money
[07:58] <AWOSDev> meathead: Try dvdrtools
[07:58] <xasaya> dmsantam, there isn't a community of ubutun artist , right?
[07:58] <meathead> archaios: because I don't know how to do that.
[07:59] <jason> so who's in here?
[07:59] <archaios> meathead: heh.. nobody said it's easy to diagnose complicated problems on any OS :P
[07:59] <meathead> AWOSDev: is that CLI?
[07:59] <Green_Mage> :(
[07:59] <archaios> meathead: yes
[07:59] <archaios> dvdrtools is CLI
[07:59] <Madpilot> jason, you and 758 other people :)
[07:59] <archaios> it provides cdrecord/dvdrecord/etc.
[07:59] <jason> good lord
[07:59] <cafuego_> foo: 'postsuper -d all' will trash whatever is in the mail queue. (no undo)
[07:59] <meathead> archaios: that's great. how do I burn an image with dvdrtools?
[08:00] <dfd> [Q]  During the installation process the sound card on my pc worked (I heard the gnome start sound), now that ubuntu is installed on my hd it doesn't work. I read no errors, but I can't hear anything (the volume is not muted). What should I check?
[08:00] <archaios> meathead: cdrecord dev=0,0,0 <path to ISO image file>
[08:00] <meathead> since, after installing dvdrtools, typing "dvdrtools" at CLI doesn't do anything
[08:00] <jason> no , imean anyone from ubuntu forums
[08:00] <AWOSDev> meathead: mkisofs?
[08:00] <archaios> AWOSDev: he said image
[08:00] <cafuego_> foo: 'postsuper -d all deferred' will trash messages that have been loitering
[08:00] <meathead> I used cdrecord to burn a dvd image?
[08:00] <meathead> err
[08:00] <archaios> meathead: you have a pre-existing .iso?
[08:00] <meathead> use*
[08:00] <Madpilot> jason, I imagine lots of ppl here also use the forums...
[08:00] <meathead> yeah
[08:00] <archaios> meathead: ok
[08:00] <meathead> iso, dvd size
[08:00] <archaios> meathead: use cdrecord -vvv dev=0,0,0 <path to ISO>
[08:00] <archaios> from the CLI
[08:00] <archaios> if that fails
[08:00] <archaios> meathead: use cdrecord -vvv dev=/dev/hdx <path to ISO>
[08:01] <AWOSDev> meathead: qdvdauthor?
[08:01] <archaios> where hdx is the name of your DVD-RW device
[08:01] <mkquist_> dfd- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[08:01] <AWOSDev> meathead: nevermind
[08:01] <archaios> AWOSDev: I'm trying to get him to use dvdrtools itself! :P
[08:01] <mkquist_> dfd-good place to start
[08:01] <stacy> archaios: how do i specify that I want to go back to an older version?
[08:01] <foo> cafuego_: hm, didn't seem tow ork
[08:01] <dfd> mkquist_, I will read, thank you
[08:01] <AWOSDev> Does anybody here know how the *heck* to get PCMCIA modem working on this laptop?
[08:01] <AWOSDev> I'm getting upset
[08:01] <mkquist_> dfd-g/l
[08:01] <cafuego_> foo: Add a 'sudo'
[08:02] <Green_Mage> Why do I get a "CD-ROM drive not detected" error when I try to install Ubuntu?  What can I do to fix this?
[08:02] <AWOSDev> I've tried *everything* and nothing and nobody seems to say *anything* about PCMCIA modems
[08:02] <jason> throw it out a window
[08:02] <archaios> AWOSDev: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/base/pcmcia-cs
[08:02] <archaios> have you installed that?>
[08:02] <foo> cafuego_: Doing it as root
[08:02] <foo> hm
[08:02] <foo> cafuego_: Any other ways?
[08:02] <zanpakuto> hello if I need to set shell variables or modify PATH where do I put it? .bashrc or .bash_profile?
[08:03] <AWOSDev> archaios: Yes I did
[08:03] <archaios> AWOSDev: did you reboot?
[08:03] <meathead> cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
[08:03] <meathead> cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
[08:03] <meathead> TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
[08:03] <meathead> scsidev: '0,0,0'
[08:03] <meathead> scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
[08:03] <AWOSDev> archaios: e.g. my WLAN PCMCIA is detected
[08:03] <meathead> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[08:03] <meathead> yeah, pastebin
[08:03] <archaios> meathead: ok
[08:03] <archaios> meathead: now try
[08:03] <archaios> meathead: use cdrecord -vvv dev=/dev/hdx <path to ISO>
[08:03] <archaios> meathead: I assume you know the name of your DVD-RW device
[08:03] <archaios> hdc or something?
[08:03] <AWOSDev> archaios: No of course I didn't reboot.  Why would I reboot?  I never reboot.
[08:03] <meathead> hdx? i want to burn hdd?
[08:03] <cafuego_> 'postsuper -d  ALL'
[08:03] <archaios> AWOSDev: I take it you're being sarcastic
[08:04] <archaios> AWOSDev: ps axuwww|grep cardmgr
[08:04] <archaios> AWOSDev: see if that's running
[08:04] <AWOSDev> archaios: No, I'm not being sarcastic.  I hate rebooting with a passion.
[08:04] <cafuego_> foo: " As a safety measure,  the word ALL must be specified in upper case."
[08:04] <archaios> AWOSDev: oh, well, you need to be running cardmgr
[08:04] <archaios> to detect and initialise PCMCIA devices
[08:04] <AWOSDev> cardmgr[32112] : could not adjust resource: IO ports 0x3e0-0x4ff: Function not implemented
[08:05] <AWOSDev> and a bunch of other stuff just like it appear on the screen
[08:05] <meathead> okay, enough about burning cds
[08:05] <AWOSDev> when I type "sudo cardmgr"
[08:05] <meathead> cause it's not working
[08:05] <archaios> meathead: did you try what I just said?
[08:05] <cafuego_> AWOSDev: Well, don't do that.
[08:05] <meathead> i have two windows xp image files
[08:05] <archaios> specifying the device as /dev/hdx?
[08:05] <meathead> archaios: yeah
[08:05] <archaios> meathead: what was the output then?
[08:05] <meathead> archaios: didn't work
[08:05] <archaios> meathead: output is important...
[08:05] <meathead> archaios: let me make this easier on you.
[08:05] <cafuego_> AWOSDev: Those tools are started via init scripts. (/etc/init.d/pcmciautils)
[08:05] <meathead> archaios: I need to install windows from an image file
[08:06] <meathead> I just got a new job and I need to run photoshop and dreamweaver ASAP
[08:06] <archaios> meathead: I need the output from the 2nd cdrecord command
[08:06] <archaios> namely the error messages
[08:06] <AWOSDev> cafuego_ cardmgr is now running
[08:06] <archaios> AWOSDev, ok
[08:06] <archaios> it should automatically detect your PCMCIA devices
[08:06] <AWOSDev> cafuegp_ thanks!
[08:06] <dfd> mkquist_, I solved the problem, thanks
[08:06] <archaios> AWOSDev, cardmgr can normally be run by itself, but I gather you didn't have the PCMCIA modules loaded
[08:06] <AWOSDev> [4639051.839000]  pcmcia: Detected deprecated PCMCIA ioctl usage.
[08:06] <AWOSDev> [4639051.839000]  pcmcia: This interface will soon be removed from the kernel; please expect breakage unless you upgrade to new tools.
[08:06] <dfd> mkquist_, I had 2 sound cards.. ubuntu did choose the one I don't like as the default one ;-)
[08:06] <archaios> AWOSDev, that's fine
[08:07] <AWOSDev> Oh okay
[08:07] <archaios> AWOSDev, it just means that your kernel is newer than your pcmcia-cs package
[08:07] <AWOSDev> That's the latest message in dmesg
[08:07] <archaios> AWOSDev, your devices should be detected if they're supported...
[08:07] <archaios> AWOSDev, if not
[08:07] <AWOSDev> archaios: Don't say it
[08:07] <archaios> what PCMCIA device do you want?
[08:07] <archaios> err
[08:07] <archaios> are you using, rather
[08:07] <AWOSDev> archaios: A very old modem
[08:07] <archaios> AWOSDev: brand? model?
[08:08] <AWOSDev> archaios: Because during the hurricanes with no electricity I have no cable.
[08:08] <AWOSDev> archaios: I have no clue, not even Windows knows
[08:08] <jake1> WOAH............ that was crazy
[08:08] <AWOSDev> archaios: Just a simple, ordinary, modem
[08:08] <archaios> AWOSDev, shouldn't it be marked on the card?
[08:08] <stacy> archaios: how do i specify that I want to go back to an older version?  Do I need to just edit the repository file?
[08:08] <jake1> i was jst downloading at 14000kbps
[08:08] <meathead> cdrecord: Unspecified command not implemented for this drive.
[08:08] <meathead> cdrecord: Data will not fit on any disk.
[08:08] <meathead> cdrecord: Cannot write more than remaining DVD capacity.
[08:08] <jburd> Where is the default httpd.conf file for Apache 2 on Ubuntu?
[08:08] <AWOSDev> archaios: All it says is "Sky Link Express Data/Fax Modem"
[08:08] <archaios> meathead: seems that your drive is very non-standard
[08:08] <jake1> that's 14MBPS
[08:08] <meathead> which is bullshit by the way, cause I've burned the iso on a dvd in windows ten times.
[08:08] <jburd>  /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty...
[08:08] <archaios> AWOSDev: it's supported
[08:08] <archaios> AWOSDev: you just need to load the module
[08:08] <archaios> meathead: it's not bullshit, your drive really is non-standard
[08:09] <AWOSDev> sudo modprobe ...
[08:09] <infidel> bluefox83: thank you for your help
[08:09] <archaios> normal devices will burn using normal ATAPI commands
[08:09] <Green_Mage> 1.4 MBPS
[08:09] <AWOSDev> pcmcia?
[08:09] <archaios> AWOSDev: wait
[08:09] <archaios> finding module name
[08:09] <meathead> I've had this drive for over a year and a half, and not ONCE have I had a single problem with it..
[08:09] <archaios> meathead: on windows
[08:09] <meathead> til I switched to ubuntu
[08:09] <Green_Mage> have to divide by 8
[08:09] <archaios> meathead: Linux uses standard interfaces for burning
[08:09] <bluefox83> infidel, sure thing...no idea how i helped..but no prob :)
[08:09] <meathead> I noticed
[08:09] <archaios> meathead: in case you didn't realise
[08:09] <archaios> meathead: most hardware manufacturers don't provide specs for Linux driver development
[08:10] <archaios> meathead: if your drive is non-standard, it will most likely not be supported
[08:10] <meathead> Linux uses standard interfaces for everything. my extremely popular mouse only get's half the buttons working... after an hour of tweaking
[08:10] <AWOSDev> meathead: Windows does very screwy things to drives -- Linux only supports standards
[08:10] <archaios> meathead: that's not Linux's fault
[08:10] <archaios> that's the hardware manufacturer, meathead
[08:10] <archaios> they're the ones who aren't writing capable Linux drivers
[08:10] <archaios> or supplying specifications
[08:10] <archaios> don't assign blame to the OS -_-
[08:10] <infidel> bluefox83: it was operator head space but thanks for your patience
[08:10] <meathead> can't imagine why.
[08:10] <archaios> AWOSDev: sudo modprobe pcnet_cs
[08:10] <Axe_> Because some companies suck?
[08:11] <Axe_> Generic ones especially
[08:11] <AWOSDev> meathead: Because they have contracts with Microsoft?
[08:11] <mkquist_> so whats to gain by not supplying specs?
[08:11] <mkquist_> like canon?
[08:11] <bluefox83> infidel, no problem
[08:11] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> what is the minimum requirements to run ubuntu?
[08:11] <mkquist_> oh i saw that..lol
[08:11] <Green_Mage> It prevents corporate espionage, maybe
[08:11] <archaios> meathead: Microsoft has a serious monopoly on HW manufacturers... they get paid to develop devices that only run on Windows
[08:11] <mkquist_> M$
[08:11] <archaios> there's all sorts of anti-competitive measures
[08:11] <archaios> Green_Mage: not really
[08:11] <AWOSDev> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: Well
[08:11] <archaios> Green_Mage: it's more due to a lack of industry expertise in writing Linux drivers, firstly, and secondly, contracts with Microsoft and such
[08:12] <AWOSDev> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: bare minimum, Pentium/166
[08:12] <archaios> Green_Mage: the Windows logo program for hardware devices is almost "lock-in", it has an exclusivity requirement
[08:12] <Green_Mage> Then it's probably only a matter of time before more people start releasing linux drivers
[08:12] <AWOSDev> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: but for usability, prolly a P2/300 with ~128+MB RAM would work
[08:12] <archaios> well
[08:12] <archaios> all my computers have worked out of the box with Linux
[08:12] <archaios> because I buy generic hardware :P
[08:12] <wolfmanz> How do i move e-mail and setting from one thunderbird client to another?
[08:12] <mkquist_> think someone was trying to load onto a p2 300 last nite and no go for them
[08:13] <Green_Mage> How can you buy something like a generic video card or a generic CPU?
[08:13] <mkquist_> think he was short on the ram part tho
[08:13] <Green_Mage> There's only two brands for each of those
[08:13] <AWOSDev> WvDial: cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
[08:13] <archaios> Green_Mage: not CPU/gfx cards
[08:13] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> Green_Mage: Ok just needed the memory requirements actually thanks
[08:13] <archaios> Green_Mage: but CPUs are guaranteed to be compatible
[08:13] <archaios> Green_Mage: the instruction set, etc. is completely standardised
[08:13] <AWOSDev> Green_Mage: If the CPU isn't compatible I'd *really* LOVE to hear about it :P
[08:13] <archaios> Green_Mage: gfx cards are proprietary, but there is a strong incentive to develop drivers for Linux
[08:13] <archaios> which is why nvidia and ATI provide Linux drivers
[08:13] <Sarra_> While Using firefox for Ubuntu x64, it keeps saying "OMG, you need a PLUGIN that doesn't exist! Click here to be told that it doesn't exist yet!" How do I disable that? Flash doesn't exist fro x64 yet, and that darn message is wasting screen space
[08:13] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> Green_Mage: My friend tried to install it on a 133mhz wif 64mb ram
[08:14] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> :/
[08:14] <mkquist_> lol thats funny tho
[08:14] <archaios> Teh_wrk1n|Dog, 133mhz with 64MB RAM?
[08:14] <AWOSDev> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: Try something lighter
[08:14] <archaios> that's unusual
[08:14] <archaios> most 133mhz boxes didn't have over 16MB RAM
[08:14] <AWOSDev> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: like Red Hat 5 or something
[08:14] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> i said he should should try gentoo
[08:14] <archaios> at the time 133mhz boxes were in vogue
[08:14] <meathead> hmm, so microsoft actuallys pays people to write drivers for their OS so that people don't have to write their own drivers when they get a peice of hardware! obscene
[08:14] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> :P
[08:14] <archaios> 16MB and 32MB were the norms
[08:14] <birdfish> Okay, now that I have ip masquerading working somewhat, I have another problem.  I can get connected to the internet from my LAN clients, but cannot connect to irc servers from them.
[08:14] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> it scared the shi outta him
[08:14] <AWOSDev> archaios: I'm personally insulted -- I love my 133MHz box and I can get 128MB into it!
[08:14] <Green_Mage> What about motherboards and northbridges, do those ever cause problems with linux?
[08:14] <archaios> meathead, Microsoft provides monetary incentives for writing drivers for Windows
[08:14] <birdfish> Is there something else that I need to install in order to get this functionality?
[08:14] <archaios> meathead, for Linux, there is no such program
[08:15] <Green_Mage> *above to archaios
[08:15] <archaios> meathead, given that < 2% of the market uses Linux
[08:15] <birdfish> Or is iptables blocking them perhaps?
[08:15] <archaios> manufacturers have no incentive to write Linux drivers, really
[08:15] <archaios> Green_Mage: not particularly
[08:15] <archaios> Green_Mage: some southbridge on-board devices aren't supported, though
[08:15] <birdfish> I can't figure out why I can surf the net and download various applications, but cannot get connect to an irc server
[08:15] <archaios> Green_Mage: very rarely a mainboard will not operate at all with Linux
[08:15] <AWOSDev> birdfish: Sounds like iptables problem
[08:15] <Green_Mage> archaios: like what?
[08:15] <zanpakuto> birdfish, are you manually handcrafting your iptables?
[08:15] <ezu> Hi, am new to linux (from windows) and am trying to understand few thing. I installed java but it asked me to remove xpti.dat from firefox folder. how do I get in as administrator to delete this file?
[08:15] <AWOSDev> birdfish: I recommend fwbuilder
[08:15] <Khamael> are there any gamedesigners or programmers here?
[08:16] <zanpakuto> birdfish, i mean iptable rules
[08:16] <birdfish> Actually, all I really did was install and start dnsmasq and ipmasq
[08:16] <AWOSDev> Khamael: I'm both
[08:16] <mkquist_> ezu-sudo in terminal
[08:16] <archaios> Green_Mage: like temperature/fan speed monitors (too many chipsets to name), like on-board sound, LAN (though these are usually supported these days -- my nforce3 mainboard wasn't until recently), etc.
[08:16] <Khamael> AWOSDev: I`ve got an idea for a game
[08:16] <archaios> Khamael: I'm an experienced programmer
[08:16] <AWOSDev> Khamael: Not that good at game programming yet :)
[08:16] <archaios> but not a game developer
[08:16] <archaios> sorry
[08:16] <ezu> mkquist: sudo???
[08:16] <archaios> 14 years in C and assembly experience
[08:16] <AWOSDev> Khamael: I can write a whole OS but can't even get a game menu screen to work :P
[08:16] <mkquist_> ezu-use the command sudo (for root control) and rm (files)
[08:17] <Green_Mage> archaios: What about CD and DVD drives?
[08:17] <mkquist_> ezu-have u looked in the ubuntu forums?
[08:17] <birdfish> I also edited /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to enable forwarding
[08:17] <archaios> Green_Mage: almost all are standard ATAPI devices
[08:17] <mkquist_> ezu-lotsa good stuff there
[08:17] <archaios> AWOSDev: OS development is a moot point... writing a non-standard OS is absurd these days
[08:17] <Khamael> AWOSDev and archaios I was thinking about OpenJones. A free clone of "Jones in the fast lane"
[08:17] <AWOSDev> ezu: Yes, sudo.  Super User DO.  e.g. instead of Administrator, on Linux it's called root (or Super User)
[08:17] <Madpilot> ezu, installing java shouldn't require tweaking anything else
[08:17] <brendonjt> Kia Ora all  back
[08:17] <archaios> AWOSDev: when you can use an out of the box kernel
[08:17] <birdfish> zanpakuto or AWOSDev: do either of you know of a good tutorial that I could read through in order to get myself fixed up?
[08:17] <archaios> like Mach, or Linux or any of the BSD derivatives
[08:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ezu about java
[08:17] <archaios> AWOSDev: admittedly writing an OS teaches you a lot about the architecture
[08:17] <archaios> but ultimately
[08:17] <Green_Mage> archaios: I can't figure it out then; I can't get Ubuntu to install since it keeps telling me it can't detect the CD-ROM drive
[08:17] <archaios> it's fairly useless
[08:18] <zanpakuto> birdfish, you might like to try firehol. enable universe at /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firehol
[08:18] <archaios> Green_Mage: I've never had such a problem
[08:18] <birdfish> what is firehol?
[08:18] <archaios> AWOSDev: you're better off kernel hacking on Linux or somesuch
[08:18] <Green_Mage> archaios: Who should I ask for help then?
[08:18] <AWOSDev> birdfish: I still recommend firewall builder (fwbuilder)...it's great and my network is working great
[08:18] <brendonjt> Madpilot:  umm what is ubotu  just out of interest
[08:18] <zanpakuto> birdfish, http://firehol.sourceforge.net/
[08:18] <AWOSDev> archaios: Yeah I know but I love OS programming, it's so interesting to learn about what's "inside the box" :)
[08:18] <Madpilot> brendonjt, a bot, and by far the most useful being on this channel ;)
[08:18] <fallingdutch> !initramfs
[08:19] <AWOSDev> archaios: I'm seriously considering helping the WINE project, actually
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell brendonjt about yourself
[08:19] <archaios> AWOSDev: well, I was interested in OS programming when I was first learning asm
[08:19] <zanpakuto> birdfish, there is a very short and intuitive tutorial there.
[08:19] <ezu> okay I'll play with it. I got ubotu. thanks,
[08:19] <archaios> AWOSDev: but after coding a relatively capable console protected-mode OS
[08:19] <AWOSDev> !ubotu
[08:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:19] <archaios> I lost interest, to be honest
[08:19] <brendonjt> Madpilot:  thanks  fo that
[08:19] <archaios> AWOSDev: I do professional kernel development for Linux and Windows, though
[08:19] <AWOSDev> archaios: I'm getting there.  Did you open-source your OS?
[08:19] <fallingdutch> how do the initramfs-tools work or where is a documentation of how it works?
[08:19] <AWOSDev> archaios: You developed the Windows kernel?
[08:20] <birdfish> I'll check it out and be back if I have any other questions =)
[08:20] <archaios> I said for
[08:20] <birdfish> Thanks guys!
[08:20] <archaios> kernel development
[08:20] <archaios> device drivers
[08:20] <archaios> kernel-mode security software
[08:20] <archaios> all kinds of stuff
[08:20] <AWOSDev> archaios: Oh, I thought you were once employed by the Evil Empire; glad you weren't :P
[08:20] <archaios> AWOSDev: I've access to the Windows kernel source
[08:21] <fetale> I'm trying to mount mount some of my samba shares but I've been getting errors left and right
[08:21] <AWOSDev> I still don't have a PCMCIA Linux modem
[08:21] <archaios> as part of the shared source program
[08:21] <archaios> but I don't work for them
[08:21] <AWOSDev> archaios: WOW -- that would be SO cool to see inside -- and yet, so empty :)
[08:21] <archaios> AWOSDev, pcnet_cs didn't help?
[08:21] <archaios> it says it supports
[08:21] <archaios> 	Ark Sky Link Express PA2600
[08:21] <AWOSDev> archaios: No, pcnet_cs modprobe'd but it didn
[08:21] <archaios> and
[08:21] <AWOSDev> 't do anything else
[08:21] <archaios> 	Sky Link Express
[08:21] <AWOSDev> No messages, no dmesg, no "Hey you have a modem!", no /dev/modem softlink created, nothing
[08:22] <brendonjt> awosdev:  hmm i have thinking about that  umm not sure where to go now  with that one
[08:22] <AWOSDev> brendonjt: You mean about my modem?
[08:22] <archaios> AWOSDev: I could help you if you had a Lucent PCMCIA winmodem
[08:22] <brendonjt> awosdev:  yip
[08:22] <archaios> AWOSDev: there's support for the sky link express ethernet
[08:22] <AWOSDev> archaios: just pretend it *is* a Lucent :)
[08:22] <archaios> but not for the modem
[08:22] <AWOSDev> No modem?
[08:22] <archaios> AWOSDev: I guess you could write your own driver :P
[08:22] <AWOSDev> *NO MODEM?*
[08:23] <AWOSDev> YOU MEAN that I'm fudged come hurricane time?
[08:23] <AWOSDev> Ooh I'm very upset
[08:23] <AWOSDev> very upset indeed
[08:23] <AWOSDev> I NEED my Internet during the power outage -- and the only way is with a modem
[08:24] <AWOSDev> archaios: I know 0 and nada about the Linux kernel, let alone device drivers
[08:24] <AWOSDev> can I use NDISwrapper for modems too?  I have a Win95 driver for it...
[08:24] <ezu> New user question again: When I am switching b/n user's the program I was running sleeps and I can't use it. What I had to do was to go to admin and kill it and restart again. What's the proper way?
[08:24] <Green_Mage> archaios: It appears my motherboard is incompatible with the linux install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1417783 :(
[08:25] <yacc> AWOSDev: I don't thing that modems have NDIS drivers on Windows?
[08:25] <archaios> AWOSDev: modems don't use NDIS
[08:25] <archaios> AWOSDev: they use a serial-type API
[08:25] <archaios> which is not supported on Linux, sadly
[08:25] <AWOSDev> Well poo.
[08:25] <hamdan> i installed win32 codecs but i cant play movies
[08:25] <AWOSDev> So I'm sunk?
[08:25] <AWOSDev> 100% sunk?
[08:25] <archaios> Green_Mage: well, that sucks
[08:25] <archaios> Green_Mage: I only use AMD mainboards
[08:26] <archaios> AMD processors are better, anyway
[08:26] <AWOSDev> Because I can't get Windows back on here and Linux doesn't support modems?
[08:26] <archaios> and more compatible! :P
[08:26] <AWOSDev> archaios: AMD sucks, every single computer I've had with AMD has died
[08:26] <archaios> AWOSDev: yeah
[08:26] <archaios> AWOSDev: basically
[08:26] <archaios> AWOSDev: err
[08:26] <archaios> no
[08:26] <treitter> is there a new Times font included in Edgy?
[08:26] <archaios> AMD processors were bad in the old days of the Duron
[08:26] <archaios> and before
[08:26] <archaios> but since then
[08:26] <AWOSDev> archaios: I'm not sunk?
[08:26] <hamdan> i installed win32 codecs but i cant play movies
[08:26] <archaios> they've advanced to produce a significantly better processor than Intel
[08:26] <archaios> AWOSDev: no, AMD is now better than Intel
[08:26] <archaios> my old Duron 900 MHz ran extremely hot
[08:26] <AWOSDev> archaios: Yeah I have all K6's
[08:27] <archaios> 120 degrees Celsius in summer
[08:27] <brendonjt> hamdan: have you installed the video codecs
[08:27] <hamdan> yes
[08:27] <AWOSDev> archaios: Never got another AMD after those two K6s died
[08:27] <Green_Mage> The new intel chips are top of the line though
[08:27] <archaios> AWOSDev: Athlons and AMD64 processors are very capable, and much higher performance than Intel at an equivalent clock rate
[08:27] <AWOSDev> hamdan: Do you have xine?
[08:27] <Green_Mage> The core 2 duo stops on anything AMD has out now
[08:27] <archaios> AWOSDev: Durons and before were the bad old days
[08:27] <Green_Mage> *stomps
[08:27] <ezu> Why do programs disapear when I switch user's ??
[08:27] <archaios> Green_Mage: far from it
[08:27] <hamdan> awisdev yes
[08:27] <AWOSDev> archaios: I just need to get the stupid modem working
[08:27] <Jobberwacky> Intels are probably still not as hot as AMDs though
[08:27] <archaios> Green_Mage: for a start, dual core processors proffer minimal advantage for most applications
[08:27] <AWOSDev> archaios: Is there *ANYTHING* ELSE I can do?
[08:28] <archaios> Green_Mage: since they require apps to be designed with SMP in mind
[08:28] <archaios> second,
[08:28] <Jobberwacky> AWOSDev, you could get another modem
[08:28] <AWOSDev> hamdan: Is there an error?
[08:28] <archaios> Intel focusses on clock rate in its designs
[08:28] <Green_Mage> It's not the dual core nature that I brag about, it's the raw speed of the chip
[08:28] <archaios> compromising cycle efficiency
[08:28] <AWOSDev> Jobberwacky: With a hurricane 18 hours away?
[08:28] <archaios> Green_Mage: that's absolute crap
[08:28] <Green_Mage> Intel changed its design with the core 2 duo
[08:28] <eric__> hello all
[08:28] <archaios> Green_Mage: Intels have much higher clock rates
[08:28] <archaios> yes, including the core 2 duo
[08:28] <Green_Mage> They emphasize feature sets over clock rates
[08:28] <archaios> but their cycle efficiency is much lower, Green_Mage
[08:28] <archaios> Green_Mage, yes, including your "new" processor
[08:29] <Green_Mage> Then how are they beating out higher clocked AMD chips?
[08:29] <AWOSDev> I suppose I could look and see if Office Depot is open tomorrow -- what kind of modem is compatible with Linux?  Would it say on the box?
[08:29] <archaios> Green_Mage, they're only "beating them" in SMP-capable apps
[08:29] <AWOSDev> Green_Mage -- run a benchmark and then tell us who's better :)
[08:29] <archaios> Green_Mage, most apps, believe it or not
[08:29] <hamdan> awosdev totem could not play "     "  you dont have a decoder installed to handle ...
[08:29] <Jobberwacky> AWOSDev, if you're talking about dialup, an external serial modem
[08:29] <archaios> lack SMP capability
[08:29] <archaios> AWOSDev: benchmarks aren't good tests
[08:29] <Green_Mage> I'm talking about real world preformance here
[08:29] <Green_Mage> Games and Programs
[08:30] <archaios> AWOSDev: for example, since it's a dual core processor, the "added performance" relies on SMP
[08:30] <AWOSDev> Jobberwacky: I have a Parallel Port US Robotics modem, would that work?
[08:30] <Mitrovarr> Does anyone know a fast way to restore the default top/bottom menu bars?
[08:30] <archaios> Green_Mage: that's absolute rubbish
[08:30] <Green_Mage> The core 2 duo gets higher FPS ratings in all major PC Games out on the market
[08:30] <archaios> Green_Mage: AMD performance at equivalent clock rates is almost 150% faster
[08:30] <Jobberwacky> AWOSDev, I'm not sure but you could try it
[08:30] <brendonjt> awosdev:  yip
[08:30] <archaios> Green_Mage: FPS has nothing to do with the processor
[08:30] <archaios> and most to do with the graphics coprocessor on the damn graphics card
[08:30] <hamdan> AWOSDev totem could not play "     "  you dont have a decoder installed to handle ...
[08:30] <AWOSDev> I just don't have the parallel cords, I lost them in one of my moves :(
[08:30] <brendonjt> awosdev:  i had one of them  and it worked straight out of the box
[08:30] <archaios> Green_Mage: it's absurd to claim that your processor is responsible for the higher FPS
[08:30] <archaios> I guarantee that it is nbot
[08:30] <Green_Mage> When the only difference between the two setups is the motherboard and processor, then the CPU has all the difference
[08:30] <AWOSDev> I guess *those* wouldn't be too expensive
[08:30] <archaios> -b
[08:31] <archaios> Green_Mage, not at all
[08:31] <archaios> Green_Mage, the motherboard has the primary influence in that case
[08:31] <brendonjt> awosdev:  bugga ae
[08:31] <Nitrobass24> anyone know how to network windows with a linux server?
[08:31] <AWOSDev> brendonjt: bugga ae?  what's a bugga ae?
[08:31] <hamdan> how i can reinstall the kernal ?
[08:31] <AWOSDev> Nitrobass24: Samba
[08:31] <crparr> What is the best way to setup postfix with spamassassin and clamav?
[08:31] <Green_Mage> You're telling me that a motherboard would have more of a difference than the CPU, how is that possible?
[08:31] <Nitrobass24> yea i am using that
[08:31] <AWOSDev> hamdan, you don't need to
[08:31] <archaios> Green_Mage, in terms of CPU speed and efficiency, AMD has won over Intel for years... and still is.
[08:31] <Green_Mage> Maybe if you used a cheap mobo
[08:31] <archaios> Green_Mage, how?
[08:31] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  Are you trying to say that you could take an identical setup with identical motherboards, compare the lowest processor it can handle to the best one, and get the same FPS?  That's insane.
[08:31] <AWOSDev> Nitrobass24 have you consulted the Wiki?
[08:32] <archaios> Green_Mage, because the f'ing bus speed is the primary determinant
[08:32] <Nitrobass24> when i browse in windows and try to connect to my linux server it ask me for a username and password
[08:32] <archaios> Mitrovarr: no
[08:32] <archaios> Mitrovarr: but I'm saying
[08:32] <Green_Mage> If you use a Intel and an AMD mobo that are relatively similar, then how can it matter?
[08:32] <Nitrobass24> no
[08:32] <archaios> when it comes to high end processors
[08:32] <hamdan> AWOSDev there are errors in kernel
[08:32] <AWOSDev> Nitrobass24
[08:32] <loopyzort> i've read a few threads that firestarter (firewall) is just an interface to iptables/default firewalling
[08:32] <loopyzort> is that true?
[08:32] <archaios> the graphics coprocessor has the primary influence
[08:32] <AWOSDev> !wiki > Nitrobass24
[08:32] <Green_Mage> The new AMD boards have a FSB that's just as fast, or faster than the intel boards
[08:32] <archaios> Green_Mage: there is a very major confounding factor
[08:32] <AWOSDev> hamdan -- what makes you say that?
[08:32] <archaios> Green_Mage: the northbridge.
[08:32] <archaios> Green_Mage: and I'm sorry, all the benchmarks right now contradict your claim
[08:32] <Green_Mage> What benchmarks are you using?
[08:32] <eric__> can someone help me out with setting up synaptic package manager?
[08:33] <archaios> Green_Mage, I'm using CPU instruction set benchmarks
[08:33] <AWOSDev> Does Office Depot or something sell parallel cables like I would need?
[08:33] <archaios> Green_Mage, that actually test processor speed and cycle efficiency
[08:33] <AWOSDev> sorry dumb question nevermind my last
[08:33] <archaios> and right now
[08:33] <hamdan> AWOSDev because i see errors in kernal in boot
[08:33] <archaios> Intel is only close to AMD
[08:33] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  That is partly but not entirely right.  What matters is the constraining factor; generally CPU requirements for a given game don't vary much by detail settings, but graphics card requirements vary a ton.  So, with an insufficient CPU, it will be slow all the time.  An insufficient graphics card will be slow in good detail settings but fast in low ones.
[08:33] <Green_Mage> archaios: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/02/thg_tuning_test/
[08:33] <AWOSDev> eric__ It should already be installed, under System->Tools->Synaptic or something like that
[08:33] <archaios> Mitrovarr: erm. we're talking about similar speeds
[08:33] <AWOSDev> hamdan, what errors?
[08:33] <archaios> Mitrovarr: the difference between processors is minimal
[08:33] <Green_Mage> archaios: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/core2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/
[08:34] <archaios> Green_Mage: it's also spurious to compare them
[08:34] <hamdan> i dont know :)
[08:34] <archaios> Green_Mage: because the Athlon 64 isn't dual-core
[08:34] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  Ah, you were making some rather blanket statements that concealed that factor.
[08:34] <eric__> AWOSDev - I thought so too.. but it won't load even when i gave it my root pw
[08:34] <Jobberwacky> but again don't intels run cooler?
[08:34] <Green_Mage> So? It's all AMD has on the market right now
[08:34] <AWOSDev> hamdan, I'm gonna need the errors, or else I can't help you further
[08:34] <hamdan> AWOSDev i dont know
[08:34] <archaios> Green_Mage: compare Intel's single-core offering to AMD processors
[08:34] <archaios> Green_Mage: and I'm sorry
[08:34] <archaios> Intel is utterly useless
[08:34] <archaios> Green_Mage: as soon as AMD's newest line of processors is released
[08:34] <AWOSDev> I still like Intel better but I guess I should give AMD a shot on my next major computer purchase, yes?
[08:34] <Green_Mage> That's not planned for another 6 months or more
[08:34] <archaios> Intel will completely lose the perceived advantage
[08:34] <AWOSDev> ^ to archaios up there
[08:35] <Green_Mage> And who knows what intel will have out by then
[08:35] <archaios> Green_Mage, put it this way
[08:35] <archaios> AMD are the ones who are calling the shots now
[08:35] <Mitrovarr> archaiosA:  What on Earth are you talking about?  Core 2 Duo absolutely walks all over AMD's best offerings.  The X2 gets DESTROYED.  It's not even close.
[08:35] <archaios> Intel is not the market leader anymore
[08:35] <AWOSDev> archaios: Should I give AMD a shot on my next major computer purchase?
[08:35] <Green_Mage> Intel still controls over 70% of the market share
[08:35] <archaios> Mitrovarr: "destroyed"? absolute rubbish
[08:35] <Green_Mage> How could you say it's not the leader?
[08:35] <archaios> Green_Mage: market control, perhaps
[08:35] <Green_Mage> That's absurd
[08:35] <archaios> but in terms of technical prowess
[08:35] <AWOSDev> archaios: And if it doesn't work can I blame you?  :)
[08:35] <archaios> AMD is the market leader
[08:35] <brendonjt> awosdev:  you  cant find ya cable
[08:35] <eric__> AWOSDev --- I thought so too.. but it won't load even when i gave it my root pw
[08:35] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  Seriously, check the benchmarks.  The Core 2 Duo beats the X2 all across the board often by 20% or more.
[08:36] <AWOSDev> brendonjt: Yeah no fun is it
[08:36] <archaios> Green_Mage: there are several very significant developments to back my claim
[08:36] <AWOSDev> eric__ No errors?
[08:36] <hamdan> any one know about speedstream 4060 ??
[08:36] <archaios> Mitrovarr: the apps in question are compiled with Intel-specific optimisations
[08:36] <archaios> Mitrovarr: so, it's spurious
[08:36] <Green_Mage> Have you actually researched this at all, archaios?
[08:36] <AWOSDev> eric__ I would say on that note just use command-line-based aptitude
[08:36] <archaios> Green_Mage: I'm sorry
[08:36] <archaios> Green_Mage: you are foolish
[08:36] <brendonjt> awosdev:  pitty u can't use a genric driver
[08:36] <archaios> Green_Mage: AMD set the 64-bit standard
[08:36] <Green_Mage> It's pretty much a well accepted fact that core 2 is a better chip
[08:36] <archaios> they designed the x86-64 instruction set
[08:36] <Green_Mage> That's true, but what does that matter?
[08:36] <AWOSDev> eric__ aptitude is basically Synaptic but on the command line
[08:36] <archaios> Green_Mage, it matters because they turned the tide
[08:36] <archaios> and they're now setting the standards
[08:36] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  Every single benchmark and game is optimized for Intel?  That would make it the smarter choice anyway.
[08:36] <Green_Mage> What tide?
[08:36] <archaios> Mitrovarr, most of them are
[08:37] <Green_Mage> Who cares about who's setting the standards?
[08:37] <archaios> the Microsoft compilers are optimised for Intel
[08:37] <Green_Mage> I only care about who has the better product
[08:37] <archaios> if you do tests on Linux, Mitrovarr
[08:37] <Green_Mage> Screw brand loyalty
[08:37] <AWOSDev> Mitrovarr - the only thing I see that Intel is innovating is Centrino
[08:37] <archaios> you'll find the opposite to be the case
[08:37] <Green_Mage> I want who ever treats me best
[08:37] <damnhil> archaios: How did you know?
[08:37] <archaios> damnhil, how did I know what?
[08:37] <AWOSDev> I guess I'll go dig up my old parallel modem
[08:38] <Jobberwacky> so a large number of optimized games for amd are on the horizon?
[08:38] <archaios> Mitrovarr, essentially the entire Windows environment is optimised for Intel processors due to industry partnership with Intel and the MS compiler development group
[08:38] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  Well, I can't exactly do tests since I haven't got the stuff, but I'll keep that in mind and see if I see anything.  I know the Core 2 Duo is considered innovative across the board though, it's got lower power usage too, and it uses a smaller process.
[08:38] <Green_Mage> archaios: So you're telling us that Intel has a conspiracy with Microsoft to knock AMD out of the market?
[08:38] <Green_Mage> AND with the entire PC hardware review market, to boot
[08:38] <archaios> Green_Mage, conspiracy, no
[08:38] <archaios> Green_Mage, Intel has a partnership agreement with Microsoft
[08:38] <hamdan> how i can install deb pkg  ?
[08:38] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  Hmm.... I don't know about that, that would give AMD a commanding lead on Linux and I haven't heard about that.
[08:38] <archaios> as virtually everyone knows
[08:39] <archaios> Mitrovarr: ...Windows leads the market in the case of hardware
[08:39] <archaios> Mitrovarr: consumer buying is influenced almost exclusively by the agitprop developed on Windows
[08:39] <damnhil> archaios: how did you know the Microsoft compiler is optimized for Intel x86?
[08:39] <AWOSDev> Ah bug -- I can't find the stupid thing
[08:40] <archaios> damnhil, please... this is a well known fact! Intel works closely with the MS compiler development group, this association has been around for decades
[08:40] <archaios> damnhil, there's references to it everywhere
[08:40] <damnhil> archaios: Windows leads the market of hardware? what does it mean?
[08:40] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  I know that but I was under the impression that Linux benchmarks didn't favor AMD (any more or less than Windows ones, anyway)
[08:40] <hamdan> how i can install deb pkg  by terminal ?
[08:40] <Jobberwacky> I haven't had terrible experiences with either Intel or AMD
[08:40] <AWOSDev> hamdan -- dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb
[08:40] <archaios> there was an article on it in a backissue of DDJ
[08:40] <Mitrovarr> Anyways, does anyone know how to restore the upper and lower menu bars if they crash out or otherwise are lost?
[08:40] <hamdan> AWOSDev thanks
[08:40] <damnhil> hamdan: dpkg -i Package_Name.deb
[08:41] <eric__> AWOSDev --- thanks I'll look into apt
[08:41] <Mitrovarr> I know how to recreate them from scratch, but it's annoying.  Is there some simple way to restore to defaults?
[08:41] <archaios> Mitrovarr: Linux benchmarks more impartial, insofar as if it is compiled with AMD-specific optimisations, Intel processors also perform poorly
[08:41] <AWOSDev> hamdan no provlem
[08:41] <AWOSDev> eric__ no problem
[08:41] <archaios> Mitrovarr: basically, the compiler has a very strong influence on benchmarks
[08:41] <RivercityOperato> hi, what linux kernel version does Dapper Drake use?
[08:41] <AWOSDev> 2.6.15-23-386
[08:41] <archaios> Mitrovarr: the number of ways to bias a benchmark is insane
[08:41] <AWOSDev> RivercityOperato it uses 2.6.15-23-386
[08:42] <archaios> Mitrovarr: according to Microsoft, IIS is more efficient than Apache
[08:42] <archaios> Mitrovarr: in actual testing, this is highly dependent on the Linux configuration
[08:42] <AWOSDev> RivercityOperato -- to be more specific - I'm running Linux Lappy 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:42] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  Well, those benchmarks are in some cases real-world configurations
[08:42] <chris_> anyone familiar with the install process for xgl?
[08:42] <archaios> Mitrovarr: real-world or not, they're still biased
[08:43] <damnhil> chris_: what';s xgl?
[08:43] <AWOSDev> chris_ -- um, sudo apt-get install xgl?  I don't know
[08:43] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  Like a game benchmark.  It's the game running in a real-world (or at least emulated) situation.  If Intel beats AMD there, then it'll beat it in a real game, which is good enough for users.
[08:43] <archaios> in the infamous words of Benjamin Disraeli
[08:43] <archaios> there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
[08:43] <chris_> AWOSDev: lol way more complex
[08:43] <RivercityOperato> with that kernel version, is Ubuntu subject to the vulnerability in the linux kernel found the 23rd of this month?
[08:43] <Guest666> why apt-get install rar can't find rar package ?
[08:44] <Mitrovarr> archaios: yeah, well, unless you have another way of judging processors besides Benchmarks, Getting a Doctorate in Computer Engineering, and Listening to You, I'd like to hear it.
[08:44] <archaios> Mitrovarr: good enough for users? perhaps, but it's still not representative of the processor's true performance when apps are optimised for it
[08:44] <Hellevater> can someone tell me the default installation directory for gaim?
[08:44] <archaios> Mitrovarr: processor-specific optimisation heavily influences the results
[08:44] <archaios> Mitrovarr: mainstream benchmarks simply cannot be trusted, because they are far too simplistic
[08:44] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  So what is?  No one but a computer engineer could judge a processor on it's technical merits, so what is anyone supposed to use but benchmarks?
[08:45] <archaios> Mitrovarr: put it this way
[08:45] <archaios> the Pentium III was faster than the Pentium IV in most benchmarks initially
[08:45] <Jobberwacky> they should use their perception maybe?
[08:45] <archaios> because the floating-point support required specific optimisations to run at capacity
[08:45] <RivercityOperato> AWOSDev, have you seen this? http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-3745
[08:45] <Guest666> What repostory have rar package ?
[08:46] <Healot> multiverse for unrar
[08:46] <archaios> Intel works closely with the MS compiler development group -- AMD does not -- meaning that any optimisations to the industry standard compilers are aimed at Intel processors!
[08:46] <Mitrovarr> Jobberwacky:  You'd have a hard time finding something less accurate than analysis via simple perception
[08:46] <archaios> this is an absurd situation
[08:46] <Healot> universe for unrar-free
[08:46] <archaios> it means that benchmarking non-Intel processors against Windows is completely and utterly biased
[08:46] <Jobberwacky> Mitrovarr, true, but if we speak of users, isn't that all that matters?
[08:46] <MZM> how to check wich src pkg versions I can build?
[08:47] <damned[office] > can anybody tell which packet|program allows flashplugin to play sound?
[08:47] <archaios> Mitrovarr: do you not see my point? benchmarks are extremely subjective
[08:47] <hamdan> where i can but win32 codecs fortotem
[08:47] <Jobberwacky> They're both darned fast, and the AMD/Intel rivalry gives better products
[08:47] <hamdan> fot totem
[08:47] <Mitrovarr> Jobberwacky:  well, I can't 'percieve' differences until I own both processors, so it's useless in that regard anyway.  And no, not really, since subtle differences are hard to see but those differences might matter a lot up the road.
[08:47] <hamdan> for totem
[08:47] <RivercityOperato> I got them recently using automatix, hamdan
[08:47] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  I understand, but you didn't propose an alternative.
[08:47] <AWOSDev> RivercityOperato -- no I hadn't and yes Dapper is vulnerable
[08:48] <Jobberwacky> Mitrovarr, there's no way to prove which is better if you're going to consider that many layers
[08:48] <treitter> has anyone else run into non-antialiased fonts in Edgy?
[08:48] <treitter> it looks like Times New Roman on Windows, and it's driving me crazy
[08:48] <archaios> Mitrovarr: indeed I have not, but it's pure propaganda to claim that Intel is faster than AMD or vice-versa without using benchmarks each optimised for their host system's processors
[08:48] <archaios> and even in that case
[08:48] <Mitrovarr> Jobberwacky:  I know, which is why I favor real-world tests.  If I see a test that shows that X proccy is better than Y proccy at playing Unreal Tournament and I'm buying it to play UT, then I know X is probably better.  Good enough.
[08:48] <archaios> they're not comparable
[08:48] <Madpilot> treitter, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy issues, please
[08:49] <Jobberwacky> What will all the subtle differences mean to the user anyways? a split second difference in the actions stopping?
[08:49] <archaios> you simply cannot feasibly compare the performance of two processors
[08:49] <treitter> Madpilot: thanks!
[08:49] <archaios> because subtle differences can heavily impact results on different apps
[08:49] <Jobberwacky> yeah, that's true, so it's a good idea to just get what you think will run for what you use
[08:49] <archaios> i.e. AMD processors are much faster at floating-point math, and thus, for scientific applications, are significantly better
[08:49] <archaios> while Intel processors are faster at string processing
[08:49] <Healot> aren't AMD CPU contains Intel CPU instructions?
[08:49] <Mitrovarr> Jobberwacky:  Well, the differences in performance between the new intels and AMDs is not subtle.  The intels beat the AMDs (if you trust the benchmarks) by something like 5%-50%.  If you get the 50%, it matters.
[08:49] <archaios> there's all sorts of so-called "minor" differences
[08:49] <archaios> Healot, yes
[08:49] <archaios> Healot, but that isn't the point
[08:49] <AWOSDev> Would this work with Linux?
[08:49] <Healot> like sse/sse2/sse3
[08:49] <AWOSDev> http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=450232&N=200135&An=browse
[08:50] <archaios> Healot, the CPU microcode used to implement the instruction set varies considerably
[08:50] <archaios> as a result
[08:50] <archaios> the performance is highly variable
[08:50] <Jobberwacky> I'd have to see it to believe it, I've seen a lot of bollocks benchmarks by people who don't know what they were talking about
[08:50] <archaios> and extremely dependent on the choice of compiler, OS, and benchmark
[08:50] <Healot> well, i know AMD didn't implement all the Intel microcode
[08:50] <archaios> [16:49.51]  <Mitrovarr> Jobberwacky:  Well, the differences in performance between the new intels and AMDs is not subtle.  The intels beat the AMDs (if you trust the benchmarks) by something like 5%-50%.  If you get the 50%, it matters. < that's the case only for the specific software setup they employed
[08:50] <archaios> if you're using a different setup
[08:50] <archaios> the reverse may be true
[08:51] <Jobberwacky> yeah, what he said
[08:51] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  No doubt, but it could also be true that it wouldn't be. They might actually be better.
[08:51] <archaios> it is absurd to claim "AMD is faster than Intel" or vice-versa, because it's so dependent on random variables, the choice of application, the OS, the mainboard
[08:51] <iter> archaios: got any benchmarks to back that up?
[08:51] <archaios> and all sorts of confounding factors
[08:51] <iter> cause I've seen a few the other way
[08:51] <archaios> iter: I hope you're being ironic
[08:51] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  Well, I favor tests that run as close to what you want to do as possible.
[08:51] <archaios> iter: benchmarks are meaningless except in reference to the original system and applications you're benchmarking with
[08:51] <AWOSDev> I'm sorry -- I *HATE* repeating questions -- but -- would http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=450232&N=200135&An=browse work with Dapper Drake?
[08:52] <iter> nah I'm just buying cooler chips now
[08:52] <iter> server room is too fsckin hot
[08:52] <Jobberwacky> me too, I will choose the cooler chip
[08:52] <iter> so 5150s please
[08:52] <archaios> iter: my Duron 900 MHz processor used to ran at 120 degrees Celsius in summer
[08:52] <RivercityOperato> AWOSDev, that link didn't bring anything up
[08:52] <archaios> iter: enough to melt plastic
[08:52] <Jobberwacky> the heat is getting ridiculous with these things
[08:52] <iter> archaios: no thanks ouch
[08:52] <archaios> Jobberwacky: nothing compared to what I endured
[08:52] <archaios> nothing
[08:52] <archaios> Jobberwacky: the case of my old PC got too hot to touch
[08:52] <iter> be having hdds die right and left
[08:52] <cowo-fresh-bdg> zfdhDhfsh
[08:52] <cowo-fresh-bdg> gsngn
[08:52] <AWOSDev> My 500MHz runs at 52 degrees celcius
[08:53] <cowo-fresh-bdg> fdgh ng
[08:53] <cowo-fresh-bdg> gasg
[08:53] <cowo-fresh-bdg> dafg
[08:53] <cowo-fresh-bdg> dag
[08:53] <iter> haha
[08:53] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  And it's not always absurd to make such a claim.  Imagine comparing a new Core 2 Duo to something like, a old Athlon 900.  Surely at some point, you can claim one is better all confounding factors aside.
[08:53] <cowo-fresh-bdg> fgb
[08:53] <cowo-fresh-bdg> d
[08:53] <cowo-fresh-bdg> hg
[08:53] <cowo-fresh-bdg> db
[08:53] <cowo-fresh-bdg> fdh
[08:53] <archaios> iter: actually, it was surprisingly resilient
[08:53] <cowo-fresh-bdg> f
[08:53] <archaios> iter: my hardware never died
[08:53] <AWOSDev> My 1.6GHz runs at 90+ degrees Celsius
[08:53] <Jobberwacky> archaios, well that's a big selling point
[08:53] <AWOSDev> both Intel Celeron
[08:53] <archaios> Mitrovarr: to some degree... but you can't sit there and make claims if the processors are sufficiently similar
[08:53] <Jobberwacky> and dynamic cpu fans, oh boy, those are from hell
[08:53] <AWOSDev>  Ativa 56K V.92 External RS232/Serial Modem
[08:53] <AWOSDev> ^ that's the modem
[08:54] <Jobberwacky> chea fans* that is, noisy things
[08:54] <archaios> Mitrovarr: in fact, I know of several benchmarks showing that the newer AMD processors beat the Duo
[08:54] <archaios> Mitrovarr: so, ultimately
[08:54] <Mitrovarr> archaios:  Well, I'll look into linux performance.  If both OSs mirror each other, I think the claim is sufficiently valid (if not 'intrinsically' for most users)
[08:54] <archaios> it depends on the confounding factors
[08:54] <iter> archaios: where are the benchmarks
[08:54] <RivercityOperato> yeah, AWOS, I don't know if I fsked up or my browser did when I first clicked on it.  but second time I clicked the link it came up right
[08:54] <Mitrovarr> anyways, I'm off guys.  Laters!
[08:54] <Madpilot> Jobberwacky, archaios & others - please take the processor chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, it's not really a tech support issue - thanks...
[08:55] <AWOSDev> fsck -- that's just so funny -- it's supposed to be File System ChecK but it can be used for other things :)
[08:55] <iter> anyone here use synergy
[08:55] <AWOSDev> But please remember
[08:55] <AWOSDev> !language
[08:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:55] <iter> my clipboard is flakey
[08:55] <AWOSDev> iter: I use Klipper
[08:55] <Healot> oh bugger
[08:55] <Jobberwacky> yeah, I should unplug anyways, have a nice day or night
[08:55] <AWOSDev> RivercityOperato -- well will it work?
[08:55] <sishgupta> hey, does WoW work in wine with the cvs versions of mesa?
[08:56] <AWOSDev> Jobberywacky -- bye!
[08:56] <RivercityOperato> hmmmm, with NDISWrapper it might
[08:56] <AWOSDev> NDISwrapper for modems?
[08:56] <Krinns> hai whan am going to set my printer on kubuntu
[08:56] <archaios> iter: the benchmarks are around... I performed many of my own, but as I've said repeatedly, there are so many confounding factors you cannot clearly say one processor is superior to another
[08:56] <archaios> anyway
[08:56] <archaios> end of discussion
[08:56] <RivercityOperato> just a guess
[08:56] <AWOSDev> I thought NDISwrapper was for NICs
[08:56] <Krinns> i go to administraotr mode it gives me errro
[08:56] <RivercityOperato> yeah probably
[08:56] <iter> AWOSDev: klipper can be used to sync clipboard between computers?
[08:56] <fabi> Hi all what program do I need to run windows program in linux
[08:56] <Krinns> su returned with an error
[08:56] <Krinns> what does it mean
[08:56] <Healot> WINE, fabi
[08:56] <iter> Krinns: sudo -s
[08:56] <AWOSDev> iter: No, Klipper doesn't do that -- sorry I misunderstood you
[08:56] <Healot> !wine
[08:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:56] <Krinns> how
[08:57] <Krinns> am using GUI
[08:57] <fabi> healot, where do I get it?
[08:57] <AWOSDev> AFK?
[08:57] <Healot> !info wine
[08:57] <Krinns> i just press administrator mode
[08:57] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[08:57] <RivercityOperato> does Ativa have a useful website, AWOSDev?
[08:57] <Krinns> ideally is should ask for root password
[08:57] <Healot> install it, fabi, from the repos
[08:57] <AWOSDev> RivercityOperato -- they are made by Office Depot themselves, so I don't think so :(
[08:57] <Healot> Krinns: your password is needed instead
[08:57] <AWOSDev> RivercityOperato -- that's the only result on Office Depot's website for Modems and not Cable modems
[08:58] <RivercityOperato> ok.  gotta go
[08:58] <fabi> am new user. thanks I'll try it. later,
[08:58] <AWOSDev> RivercityOperato -- I personally know nothing about them, I'm gonna have to purchase the $50 thing
[08:58] <AWOSDev> Ah dang he's gone
[08:58] <AWOSDev> archaios, could you tell me if this modem would work?
[08:58] <AWOSDev> http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=450232&N=200135&An=browse
[08:58] <sishgupta> can anyone help me revert to the mesa packages in the offical ubuntu repository? when i try to force to the version in synaptic it forces me to uninstall packages like ubuntu-desktop.
[08:59] <Green_Mage> archaios: If I disable legacy USB support to install Ubuntu, will I be able to use legacy USB in the OS? Or will I get an error when I try to boot it?
[09:00] <dong520> who can speak chinaese
[09:00] <AWOSDev> Holy moly!  $104.98 for an external modem?
[09:00] <Healot> wo bu xing, dong520
[09:00] <Healot> !zh
[09:00] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[09:00] <dong520> who come for china
[09:00] <hamdan> tar xzf  command run only with tar.gz ?
[09:00] <AWOSDev> gzip -d whatever.tar.gz
[09:01] <AWOSDev> tar xf whatever.tar
[09:01] <AWOSDev> cd whatever
[09:01] <iter> hamdan: tar zxf
[09:01] <Kream> how do I see what files were installed by a particular package ?
[09:01] <AWOSDev> ^ that's what I use
[09:01] <MZM> how can I check wich pkg versions I can build with apt-get -b source?
[09:01] <Guest666> unrar-free not support winrar3 archives ?
[09:01] <AWOSDev> Kream, go into Synaptic and right click -- there should be properties
[09:01] <AWOSDev> Well I have to go
[09:01] <AWOSDev> Bye!
[09:01] <Kream> AWOSDev:  from the command line ?
[09:02] <AWOSDev> Kream -- no Synaptic is System-->Tools-->Synaptic
[09:02] <hamdan> hamdan@hamdan-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo tar zxf xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz2
[09:02] <hamdan> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[09:02] <hamdan> tar: Child returned status 1
[09:02] <hamdan> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors     why ?
[09:02] <AWOSDev> or mayve System-->Administration-->Synaptic
[09:02] <AWOSDev> hamdan
[09:02] <Kream> AWOSDev:  thanks :) . how do I find out using the command line ?
[09:02] <AWOSDev> bunzip2
[09:02] <Healot> Guest666: no, but unrar does. unrar is the non-free version
[09:02] <AWOSDev> Kream -- I think aptitude
[09:02] <iter> hamdan: tar jzxf xine-blah
[09:02] <AWOSDev> Well anyway, good bye all!
[09:02] <iter> hamdan: j is for bz2
[09:02] <Kream> thanks AWOSDev
[09:03] <AWOSDev> No problem Kream
[09:03] <MZM> hamdan: -z for tgz -j for tar.bz2
[09:03] <Guest666> where i can found unrar ?
[09:04] <Healot> !info unrar
[09:04] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[09:04] <trygg> How do i edit so that 'startx' starts fluxbox instead of gnome?
[09:04] <Guest666> what repository hace it ?
[09:04] <Healot> unrar will replace unrar-free
[09:04] <Healot> Guest666: multiverse, read what ubotu said
[09:04] <wweasel> I am building a package from source, and i'd like to exclude a file when it installs it. How can I get it to do that?
[09:05] <RadenX> ubotu i have an qestion
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i have an qestion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <hamdan> hamdan@hamdan-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo tar jzxf xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz2
[09:05] <hamdan> tar: Conflicting compression options
[09:05] <hamdan> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[09:05] <RadenX> ubotu i have an question
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i have an question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <Madpilot> RadenX, ubotu is a bot, not a person...
[09:05] <rugbythomas> I am just starting to learn ubuntu, I'm a computer sci major and I have to make my first make file, what is the best program to do this
[09:05] <RadenX> aha
[09:05] <RadenX> ok
[09:05] <Krinns> Healot am using GUI
[09:06] <Krinns> its wont ask me for root password
[09:06] <Krinns> just says
[09:06] <Krinns> su returned with an error
[09:06] <trygg> RadenX: Just ask the question? :)
[09:06] <iter> Krinns: open terminal and do sudo passwd root
[09:06] <RadenX> i`m searcing for  root password in cd mode
[09:06] <Lilandra> rugbythomas: a text editor?
[09:06] <Guest666> what is adres of working multiserve reposoitory where i can found unrar nonfree ?
[09:07] <wweasel> rugbythomas: I believe what you are looking for is autoconf. I am not an expert though, so I'm just pointing in what I think is the right direction.
[09:07] <Lilandra> oh! autoconf...how does that work?
[09:07] <Madpilot> RadenX, there isn't one on the LiveCD - just use sudo, it'll work w/o password
[09:07] <Krinns> but how i set my printer from command line
[09:07] <Madpilot> Krinns, you to - use sudo + your own user pw...
[09:07] <rugbythomas> text editor would world, I was think there had to be a program meet for doing it
[09:07] <wweasel> Lilandra: I don't understand it, I just know I needed to use it to rebuild a make file when I merged some SVN patches into a stable I was installing. So I think that's what he needs.
[09:08] <RadenX> i need SU pass
[09:08] <RadenX> ?
[09:08] <bbrazil> rugbythomas: yes, automake. You really want to use a text editor
[09:08] <iter> Krinns: RadenX: run that command to enable root account
[09:08] <Madpilot> RadenX, on the LiveCD there is no password.
[09:08] <Lilandra> rugbythomas: well if you're just typing it up and u know what you're typing, any text editor
[09:08] <Lilandra> wweasel: i can only do SIMPLE make files...i need to learn
[09:08] <bbrazil> rugbythomas: info make has some good docs
[09:08] <Madpilot> iter, there is no good reason to enable a root pw in Ubuntu, and all the GUI tools are configured to use sudo instead...
[09:09] <wweasel> Does anyone here know how to help me exclude a file from a program I am installing from source?
[09:09] <Lilandra> Madpilot: so if i want someone else to ahve root access, i need to add them to sudoers?
[09:09] <iter> Madpilot: don't you think enabling it might solve the error returned by su for Krinns ?
[09:09] <Madpilot> Lilandra, yes
[09:09] <iter> since su barfs if there is no root acct?
[09:09] <Lilandra> sudo su
[09:09] <Madpilot> iter, that's why I told him to use sudo, not su...
[09:09] <Madpilot> !sudo
[09:09] <Krinns> ya doing
[09:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:10] <Krinns> its doing
[09:10] <Lilandra> but the first time i realized there was no root, boy was i confused
[09:10] <Guest666> ubotu, what repositoty have unrar ?
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what repositoty have unrar ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <bbrazil> iter: please don't give people that command while in here. Point them to the RootSudo wiki page
[09:10] <fallingdutch> how do the initramfs tools work? i need to add a binary to the initial ramdisk and a script to do some work, so what do i have to do in /usr/shar/initramfs-tools/ ? any links to documentations or howtos are very welcome, too
[09:10] <iter> bbrazil: su was throwing an error from gui mode
[09:10] <bbrazil> fallingdutch: check /usr/share/doc, there's a hook directory somewhere.
[09:11] <bbrazil> iter: yes, because ubuntu doesn't use su
[09:11] <iter> so I'm supposed to tell him to use cli to enable printer ?
[09:11] <archaios> AGITPROP
[09:11] <bbrazil> iter: there's a gnome-printing-manager thingy you have to use. Major brokenness in the CUPS web interface
[09:11] <Lynoure> ubuntu does use su if you ask it to
[09:12] <wweasel> You guys were just discussing make files...I am installing tk from source, and I want to exclude a specific file when I run "make install". How?
[09:12] <archaios> wweasel, you can't
[09:12] <archaios> without editing the makefile
[09:12] <iter> bbrazil: if I understand Krinns, it was gnome-printing mgr that was throwing the error
[09:12] <irawan> iter: I just installed gnome-cups-manager
[09:12] <bbrazil> iter: that sounds more like bug report territory
[09:12] <irawan> iter: you may try
[09:12] <Madpilot> iter, all the GUI tools should work with sud/the user's pw, so how su came into this, I'm not sure...
[09:12] <wweasel> archaios: Fair enough. Would it be hard to just tell it to exclude a file by editing the makefile? (We're not talking about a key thing, we're talking about a README doc)
[09:13] <iter> jeez he just wanted to use hit printer
[09:13] <hamdan> hamdan@hamdan-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo tar jzfx xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz2
[09:13] <hamdan> tar: Conflicting compression options
[09:13] <iter> so I'm not allowed to tell him how to get it working?
[09:13] <archaios> wweasel: no, look for the install: section
[09:13] <iter> instead its cli or bug report?
[09:13] <iter> hmmm
[09:13] <archaios> wweasel: there may be a makefile in the docs dir
[09:13] <archaios> or it may be in the main package dir
[09:13] <bbrazil> iter: we don't encourage setting a root password without understanding the reasoning behind why there isn't a root password
[09:14] <Madpilot> iter, gnome's print manager GUI thing should work just fine w/ the user's own pw (does it even need a pw at all?)
[09:14] <hamdan> tar: Conflicting compression options
[09:14] <hamdan> ??
[09:14] <narg> hamdan: j = bzip2, z = gzip xvf perhaps?
[09:14] <Krinns> iter it gives Radeon hardware not found in lspci output
[09:14] <blfisher_> Okay, I'm definitely not understanding why internect connection sharing isn't working.  I went through the entire tutorial for firehol and still nothing
[09:14] <blfisher_> Does anyone know of a quick and efficient way to get internet connection sharing up and running?
[09:14] <archaios> AHAHAHA
[09:15] <iter> Krinns: I thought you were setting up the printer?
[09:15] <hamdan> narg sudo tar jzfx xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz2
[09:15] <Krinns> yes
[09:16] <narg> hamdan: sudo tar -xjf xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz2
[09:17] <archaios> it doesn't matter what comes, fresh goes better with life
[09:17] <archaios> with mentos freshness full of life
[09:17] <richiefrich> the f must be at the end
[09:18] <archaios> actually
[09:18] <archaios> you don't need the j
[09:18] <zanpakuto> blfisher_,  can I see your firehol.conf?
[09:18] <archaios> you can tar xvf any .tar.gz or .tar.bz2
[09:18] <archaios> it will autodetect the format.
[09:18] <archaios> only older versions of tar require j or z
[09:18] <richiefrich> yes but
[09:18] <richiefrich> u need the f last
 narg sudo tar jzfx xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz2  <-- that wont work
[09:18] <archaios> richard, no you don't
[09:18] <archaios> I assure you
[09:18] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: sure.  Let me find a pastebin
[09:18] <narg> richiefrich: never heard of that before
[09:19] <archaios> richard, you might with your version of tar
[09:19] <richiefrich>  read the man page
[09:19] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:19] <archaios> mine works without it
[09:19] <archaios> richard:
[09:19] <richiefrich> im not richard:
[09:19] <richiefrich> kthanx
[09:19] <archaios> richiefrich, rather
[09:19] <archaios> I'm not tabbing your nick
[09:19] <richiefrich> ok
[09:19] <archaios> root@gateway:/usr/src# tar xfv squid-2.6.STABLE3.tar.gz
[09:19] <archaios> squid-2.6.STABLE3/
[09:19] <archaios> squid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/
[09:19] <archaios> squid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/compile
[09:19] <richiefrich> it's easier like that
[09:19] <archaios> seems that you're wrong
[09:19] <archaios> at least on slackware
[09:19] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: http://pastebin.com/778616
[09:20] <richiefrich> try the x last
[09:20] <richiefrich> the v is vebose
[09:20] <archaios> ...
[09:20] <archaios> evidently.
[09:20] <archaios> I'm not stupid. -_-
[09:20] <richiefrich> then
[09:20] <archaios> I was just showing that it does work with the f second.
[09:20] <richiefrich> u cant do
[09:20] <richiefrich> tar fz
[09:20] <richiefrich> tar fx
[09:20] <richiefrich> i dont use v
[09:20] <Healot> f - filename
[09:20] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: actually, I just changed the dns on my LAN client.  Now I can surf the internet again, but I can't connect to IRC once again as well :/
[09:20] <archaios> root@gateway:/usr/src# tar vfx squid-2.6.STABLE3.tar.gz
[09:20] <archaios> squid-2.6.STABLE3/
[09:20] <archaios> squid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/
[09:20] <archaios> squid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/compile
[09:20] <archaios> squid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/config.guess
[09:20] <archaios> squid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/config.sub
[09:20] <archaios> squid-2.6.STABLE3/cfgaux/depcomp
[09:20] <Healot> z - zipped
[09:20] <archaios> wanna bet?
[09:21] <archaios> :)
[09:21] <Healot> x - uncompress
[09:21] <archaios> it works just find, richiefrich
[09:21] <archaios> Healot, you don't need the z or the j
[09:21] <Healot> v - show details of files
[09:21] <archaios> Healot, oh god
[09:21] <archaios> we're not stupid
[09:21] <Healot> my favorite
[09:21] <Healot> archaios: soundsw like you are
[09:21] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: when I try to connect to IRC, I get the error message "software caused connection abort"
[09:21] <archaios> Healot, I've been programming for 14 years
[09:21] <richiefrich> then on gentoo it's borked
[09:21] <archaios> I'm a professional kernel developer for Linux and Windows
[09:21] <archaios> I do contract work for fortune 500 companies
[09:21] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: but I'm positive it's not the software's fault.  Because I get the same error even when I try to use web IRC clients.
[09:22] <archaios> the only stupid person around here sure ain't mer
[09:22] <archaios> -r
[09:22] <narg> archaios: do a tar --version, and tell me what it is
[09:22] <dmsantam> archaios you're a kernel developer for linux AND windows?
[09:22] <archaios> dmsantam: correct
[09:22] <Madpilot> archaios, 1. be polite; 2. no more multi-line pastes, please - lots of pastebins out there
[09:22] <ra1> which one u suggest for taking backup rsync or unison
[09:22] <dmsantam> archaios do you have a website?
[09:22] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, by some reason have you edited /etc/default/firehol ?
[09:22] <archaios> Madpilot: 1. I called no one stupid -- Healot did. 2. I've been nothing but polite. 3. I was merely demonstrating rapidly that the position of the 'f' argument to tar does not matter.
[09:23] <Healot> archaios: just sounds like you are, i dont need to know what you've done etc. etc. :)
[09:23] <richiefrich> ra1 rsync
[09:23] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: yeah.  I edited it to say start=YES and wait for "eth0"
[09:23] <archaios> Healot: how do I "sound" stupid? I just showed that the position of the f parameter doesn't matter
[09:23] <blfisher_> I couldn't get firehol to start without editing it
[09:23] <archaios> you're claiming that it does
[09:23] <Madpilot> Healot, you be polite too, or I'll just make things easier by kicking the pair of you... :|
[09:23] <archaios> narg: tar (GNU tar) 1.15.1
[09:23] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: but I still have the original file if you want me to put it back
[09:23] <richiefrich> tar (GNU tar) 1.15.91
[09:23] <ra1> richiefrich: what is advantage of rsync comparing with unison
[09:23] <archaios> Healot: in fact, I've said nothing even remotely stupid
[09:24] <Healot> we know it doesn't matter
[09:24] <iter> ra1: unison uses rsync
[09:24] <archaios> richiefrich: my version of tar does not care where the f parameter is, and nor should yours
[09:24] <archaios> it uses getopt_long()
[09:24] <archaios> which definitely does not care where the filename argument is
[09:24] <iter> ra1: unison goes both ways, rsync only one
[09:24] <narg> archaios: interesting, same as mine, but mine does need f at the end. Ubuntu oddness...
[09:24] <jatt> does ubuntu (dapper) include a remote desktop server?
[09:24] <Healot> you don't have to reason with him though, archaios
[09:24] <dmsantam> archaios you loudly professed to be a professional kernel developer for windows and linux for fortune 500 companies. i think you should reconsider whether you've said something stupid. just a suggestion :)
[09:24] <ra1> can u explain iter
[09:24] <richiefrich> ra1 just prefer rsync
[09:25] <archaios> dmsantam: pardon? that's true, and you can speak to my clients if you wish :)
[09:25] <jatt> I know about the client (rdesktop). I wanna work on my home laptop (ubuntu) through remote desktop from my office
[09:25] <archaios> dmsantam: you may not like it, but I'm no fool
[09:25] <dmsantam> archaios what is your webpage?
[09:25] <iter> ra1: yes unison uses the rsync protocol to do its transfers
[09:25] <richiefrich> archaios i'll try it that why.. when im done syncing from this svn :P
[09:25] <iter> ra1: and while rsync can do server A -> server B unison can do server A <-> server B data transfers
[09:25] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, I never used reverse, can you try the simpler one first? comment the router internet2home stuff and add router home2internet then put masquerade  and client all accept then restart firehol?
[09:25] <KrakensDen> jatt, you might want to look into either vnc or nx/nomachine
[09:25] <archaios> dmsantam: website? haha. I don't even have one... I don't need to advertise to reach business contacts, dmsantam, because I've been in the business for nigh on 15 years
[09:25] <ra1> k what abt the memory usage comparing with rsync
[09:26] <stephans> jatt, what do you want to do?
[09:26] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: sure.  But this is the output I get from firehol when I start it without the edited /etc/default/firehol >> " FireHOL ...Stopping: /etc/default/firehol forbids it."
[09:26] <stephans> just rdp to a windows box from ubuntu?
[09:26] <jatt> KrakensDen: thanks. I've tried vnc in the past but it is terribly slow. what do you mean by nx/nomachine?
[09:26] <KrakensDen> jatt, http://freenx.berlios.de/
[09:26] <richiefrich> archaios what kernel do u work on ?
[09:27] <jatt> stephans: the other way around: I want to rdp to a linux box from windows
[09:27] <richiefrich> archaios mm git ?
[09:27] <KrakensDen> jatt, it's basically compression for X11 protocol
[09:27] <ra1> iter: k what abt the memory usage comparing with rsync
[09:27] <richiefrich> archaios or i mean what one do u patch for
[09:27] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, yup. put your edited default/firehol file (ie enabled firehol)
[09:27] <archaios> richiefrich: my kernel development is contractual work
[09:27] <KrakensDen> jatt, as far as I know, RDP is based on the assumption that the server is running windows
[09:27] <iter> ra1: can't speak to it, sorry
[09:27] <archaios> richiefrich: I modify whatever kernel my client requires
[09:27] <richiefrich> archaios so all custom
[09:27] <iter> ra1: they both seem to work fine
[09:27] <yoshiznit123> hey everyone, is there a way to share a raid drive between ubuntu and windows?
[09:27] <dmsantam> archaios who is your biggest client?
[09:28] <KrakensDen> jatt, there are binaries available
[09:28] <stephans> ljatt, inux does not support rdp as a server service... you have to use X or vnc, or Tarantella...
[09:28] <KrakensDen> jatt, I don't really have experience with it though :/
[09:28] <ra1> iter: regarding memory usage which one u suggest rsync or unison
[09:28] <jatt> stephans, KrakensDen you are right rdp may be only for windows servers. On http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3408501 I read about VNC integration in an earlier version of gnome (2.8(
[09:28] <archaios> dmsantam: as of now, I'm doing a large amount of work for several start-ups. there is a rapidly diminishing market among larger corporations due to outsourcing, but I'm still in the business.
[09:28] <stephans> you can enable the "remote Desktop" in ubuntu... and use a vnc client...
[09:28] <archaios> dmsantam: my former employer was IBM
[09:28] <richiefrich> archaios  did u by chance check out the new slack ver ?  thats a 2.6 kerenl now by default?
[09:28] <narg> yoshiznit123: not formatting it ntfs?
[09:28] <iter> ra1: should be pretty much the same same
[09:29] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, it is?
[09:29] <iter> ra1: rsync is a little simpler to implement
[09:29] <richiefrich> im askin
[09:29] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, I thought 11 was still putting that off?
[09:29] <jatt> stephans: I think I miss the package ofr the remote desktop option. Under System->Preferences I don't have that option.
[09:29] <KrakensDen> 2.6 is ridiculously unstable
[09:29] <ra1> iter: k tk
[09:29] <richiefrich> KrakensDen im asking
[09:29] <ricperry1> Sorry for spamming the room, but are there any networking gurus in here?  I'm having a little difficulty in correcting a windows networking problem while I migrate my configuration to linux-only.
[09:29] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, as of a few weeks ago, no
[09:29] <archaios> dmsantam: I did contractual work for IBM Global Services Australia primarily for z/OS, on loan to a major telecommunications company
[09:29] <archaios> these days
[09:29] <richiefrich> KrakensDen  what do u mean ridiculously ?
[09:29] <archaios> I'm independent
[09:29] <stephans> jatt, it is there ...  system>preferences> remote desktop
[09:29] <yoshiznit123> narg, i have 2 drives that are raided together, and i'd like to have a vfat/ntfs/ext3 partition that's readable from both linux and windows
[09:29] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, it is highly unstable
[09:30] <ra1> iter: is there is good tool available on linux to take backup incremental
[09:30] <Guest666> The program 'totem' received an X Window System error.
[09:30] <Guest666> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[09:30] <Guest666> The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
[09:30] <Guest666>   (Details: serial 71 error_code 11 request_code 141 minor_code 19)
[09:30] <Guest666>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[09:30] <Guest666>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[09:30] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, especially if you do anything bus intensive on non-high end hardware
[09:30] <Guest666>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[09:30] <Guest666>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[09:30] <richiefrich> KrakensDen  im been on they lastest kernel for  and had no problems
[09:30] <Guest666>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[09:30] <Guest666>  - what is this ?
[09:30] <Healot> !paste
[09:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:30] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, you've been very, very lucky
[09:30] <jatt> stephans: not on my desktop :( (dapper). I think I don't have the package installed for it.
[09:30] <stephans> jatt, you can use the "add/remove" program to add it...
[09:30] <irawan> has anyone try www.gnome-dock.org in dapper yet?
[09:30] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, I have a box running ubuntu that goes down twice a day at least
[09:30] <richiefrich> KrakensDen  why do u say that. so u run 2.4 ?
[09:30] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: http://pastebin.com/778617
[09:30] <Madpilot> Guest666, next time, use a pastebin!!!
[09:30] <archaios> dmsantam: if you wish to challenge my credentials, feel free to do it in private... it's clearly off-topic
[09:30] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, nope, the hardware support in 2.6 is better
[09:30] <richiefrich> KrakensDen i never heard of such a thing
[09:31] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, I only boot into slack if I need to do hardcore offline work
[09:31] <narg> yoshiznit123: I'm not knowledgeable about raids, but my (single disk) partitions share just fine when needed. except for the ntfs one.
[09:31] <richiefrich> im shocked u didnt goto arch
[09:31] <Guest666> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21955 - why totem not works ?
[09:31] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, google around, lots of people are having trouble
[09:31] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: also, I let my irc client on the LAN computer run for a while, and it finally connected.  But I don't think I should have to wait 20 retries before I can finally get connected to a server
[09:31] <MZM> how can I build deb from source using aditional repo defined in sources.list? apt-get source always gives pkg from main repo...
[09:31] <Guest666> Madpilot, ok, sorry
[09:31] <KrakensDen> arch looks nice, but I don't really have the time
[09:31] <yoshiznit123> narg, okay (you might want to try ntfs-3g :-)
[09:31] <KrakensDen> I already have a working slack install ;)
[09:32] <yoshiznit123> does anyone else know if it's possible to share a raided partition between windows and ubuntu?
[09:32] <richiefrich> KrakensDen  why chose a distro thats cmopiled on i386  instead of one thats on i686 ?
[09:32] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, so you are now able to connect?
[09:32] <narg> yoshiznit123: pft, I boot into windows once at month at best, and I only have games on ntfs. Not worth the effort ;)
[09:32] <richiefrich> KrakensDen unless  u have an old box
[09:32] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, it makes hardly any difference
[09:32] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, really, it doesn't
[09:32] <richiefrich> KrakensDen i disagree
[09:32] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, i mean share internet connection and use irc on the local network?
[09:32] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, and it isn't that hard to recompile your kernel
[09:32] <richiefrich> KrakensDen  totally on that comment :P
[09:32] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, I've done that plenty of times since I first downloaded Debian woody :)
[09:33] <richiefrich> woody !
[09:33] <richiefrich> thats older then slack
[09:33] <KrakensDen> took me 4 installs to get it working
[09:33] <KrakensDen> :P
[09:33] <richiefrich> lol
[09:33] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: somewhat.  I can use the internet better than ever.  Everything feels fast.  But it takes nearly 20 retries before I can get connected to an IRC server (where I used to connect on the first attempt)
[09:33] <richiefrich> KrakensDen wow why not use etch
[09:33] <KrakensDen> richiefrich, because etch wasn't out then?
[09:33] <richiefrich> KrakensDen ahh
[09:34] <ricperry1> For ANY NETWORKING GURU:  My network topology:  ADSL modem -> 4 port hub -> laptop1 (connected to hub) , Vonage router (connected to hub) -> laptop2 (wirelessly connected to router) , linux workstation (connected to router).  Devices on Router (workstation, laptop2) connect to internet fine, laptop1 (connected to hub) will not connect to internet.  Any advice?
[09:34] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: btw, I posted my updated firehol.conf up above
[09:34] <richiefrich> KrakensDen   so im just shocked that u dindt goto arch thats all
[09:34] <Madpilot> richiefrich & KrakensDen - please move the chat about other distros to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM, please...
[09:34] <richiefrich> k
[09:35] <jatt> stephans: thanks. I found the package I was missing: it is called vino. I did apt-get install vino and now System->Preference->Remote Desktop is there
[09:35] <KrakensDen> does the session-manager in Dapper work?
[09:35] <Kream> ricperry1:  what's the internal IP address of the adsl modem?
[09:35] <stephans> jatt, cool..
[09:35] <Kream> ricperry1:  and the ip address of laptop1 ?
[09:35] <ricperry1> 192.168.1.3 (static)
[09:36] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, yup, saw it. :) dont know why you can't connect right away.
[09:36] <hamdan> who is can remote y computer to slove my problems ?
[09:36] <ricperry1> ADSL modem is ... just a min. gotta look it up....
[09:36] <hamdan> y= my
[09:36] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: are you using firehol as a means to masquerade?
[09:36] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, yup.
[09:36] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: and if so, do you get connected to irc quickly?
[09:36] <yoshiznit123> anybody know if linux supports windows dynamic disks?
[09:36] <hamdan> who is can remote my computer to slove my problems ?
[09:37] <KrakensDen> yoshiznit123, you mean ramdisks on flash drives?
[09:37] <jn> can someone help me get identd working
[09:37] <KrakensDen> yoshiznit123, ie, using flashdrives as memory cards?
[09:37] <yoshiznit123> krakensden, no, like "basic vs dynamic disks" and raided drives
[09:37] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, more or less yes.
[09:37] <ricperry1> Kream:  My ADSL IP address is 219.126.163.30
[09:38] <jn> !identd
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <jn> ,identd
[09:38] <jn> bummer
[09:38] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, no retries
[09:38] <KrakensDen> yoshiznit123, nevermind
[09:38] <Kream> ricperry1:  yeah, that's your external IP address - but your ADSL modem should also have an internal IP address - typically, 192.168.1.1
[09:38] <ricperry1> Kream: Yes, that is the correct internal IP address.
[09:39] <hamdan> who is can remote my computer to slove my problems ?
[09:39] <overridden> good morning
[09:39] <Remy> hey guys, how can I check what port a PCMCIA modem is assigned to?
[09:39] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: Hm, I seem to be connecting alright on 7000, but not 6667
[09:39] <Kream> ricperry1:  your ADSL modem sits between your network and the internet. therefore, its got to be able to talk to both networks. therefore, it's got to have IP addresses valid for both. and since it's got 2 interfaces - one external and one internal, it's got to have 2 IP addresses
[09:39] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: this is weird
[09:39] <Remy> eg, /dev/ttySo, etc ?
[09:40] <Kream> ricperry1:  in your ADSL modem's web interface, look for LAN
[09:40] <ricperry1> Kream, rgr.  I know that, I understand that.
[09:40] <[1] CaptainMorgan> folks
[09:40] <Kream> ricperry1:  that's what's there on mine
[09:40] <yoshiznit123> remy, system>administrator>device manager
[09:40] <jn> so has anyone managed to get identd working in ubuntu
[09:40] <[1] CaptainMorgan> how do I mount an hdc1 or win partition if my /etc/fstab has barely anything in it?
[09:41] <ricperry1> Kream:  My biggest problem with my ADSL modem is that the interface is in Japanese (I'm American stationed in Japan in the military).
[09:41] <[1] CaptainMorgan> I keep getting unknown filesystem 'ntfs'
[09:41] <Kream> ricperry1:  you've given me the IP address that the rest of the world can use to contact your ADSL modem. your network's computers, however, use an internal IP address to connect to the ADSL modem.
[09:41] <Kream> ricperry1:  ahhh.
[09:41] <ricperry1> So the web interface is very difficult to understand.
[09:41] <blfisher_> zankaputo: in fact, on port 7000, I get connected to the network faster than ever before
[09:41] <Kream> ricperry1:  what's the web address of the modem you use ?
[09:41] <Kream> ricperry1:  is it something like http://192.168.1.1/admin ?
[09:41] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, hmmm. might be the server load or something.
[09:42] <ricperry1> I'm pretty sure my ADSL modem is set up correctly because I have had it working before, and I didn't change anything.
[09:42] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, i really dont know. :)
[09:42] <Kream> ricperry1:  i'm sure it is, too
[09:42] <ricperry1> I think it is a winblows problem (I'm trying to migrate to ubuntu on my laptop which is serving my web page).  But I need to back up the data prior to destroying the windows partition.
[09:42] <Kream> ricperry1:  i think it's basically a matter of setting the route on laptop1. but i'd like confirmation first that both machines are on the same IP range
[09:42] <Kream> ricperry1:  what's the web address of the modem you use ?
[09:43] <blfisher_> zanpakuto: Well anyhow, thanks a ton for helping me out.  You just saved me a huge headache.  Now I only have a little one ;-)
[09:43] <ricperry1> Kream: external?
[09:43] <Kream> ricperry1:  are you using the web interface for the modem ?
[09:43] <jn> < needs help installing identd
[09:43] <Kream> just paste the address here
[09:43] <zanpakuto> blfisher_, you are welcome. :)
[09:43] <ricperry1>  That's the address I gave earlier.
[09:44] <Kream> ricperry1:  paste the URL of the ADSL modem her
[09:44] <Kream> here
[09:44] <ricperry1> I don't think the web interface is visible from outside of my network.
[09:44] <ricperry1> Kream: http://ntt.setup (http://192.168.1.1)
[09:44] <Kream> it won't be. i'm just trying to find out the blessed IP address taht the modem uses for the internal network
[09:45] <ricperry1> But you can't access that from outside.
[09:45] <Kream> thank you.
[09:45] <Kream> i'm NOT TRYING TO.
[09:45] <Healot> damn, automated URL
[09:45] <Kream> i just wanted IP address 192.168.1.1
[09:45] <ricperry1> Sorry, thought I already told you that one.
[09:45] <Kream> ricperry1:  now. from laptop1, open a terminal window and type the following:
[09:45] <Kream> ping 192.168.1.1
[09:46] <ricperry1> that works fine.
[09:47] <Kream> ricperry1:  good. so they're accessible to each other.
[09:47] <ricperry1> although it says 0ms (which doesn't make sense even though they're only separated by a hub).
[09:47] <ricperry1> but I can access the web interface from laptop1
[09:47] <Kream> ricperry1:  yes, i'm sure you can
[09:48] <ricperry1> and the other computer on on the network with a webserver running.
[09:48] <Kream> ricperry1:  okay. is the laptop running ubuntu?
[09:48] <Krinns> what i do for printer i cant do su
[09:49] <MistaED> hey there's one serious bug in ubuntu/some browsers atm, i tried to use the commonwealth bank site to transfer funds and it completely kills off the xserver, firefox, firefox in wine and iexploder in wine all have the issue except for opera, haven't tried konqueror yet
[09:49] <MistaED> very weird, happens on two machines with dapper 6.06
[09:51] <ricperry1> Kream: laptop1 running WindowsXP Pro (at the moment)
[09:51] <ricperry1> sorry
[09:52] <ricperry1> when I have Ubuntu booted, it won't connect to the internet either.  i can reboot, but the problem persists, and my website is under windows/xampp right now
[09:53] <Kream> ricperry1:  you need to get DCHP activated on ubuntu and on the ADSL router. ask a japanese speaker to activate it for you. and ask the good folk here to help walk you through using the GUI to set up your network card in ubuntu to use DHCP
[09:53] <redondo81> cc
[09:53] <Kream> ricperry1:  DHCP is probably activated already on the ADSL modem
[09:54] <Guest666> what ftpd is better?
[09:54] <jn> hola
[09:54] <Healot> vsftd
[09:54] <Healot> vsftpd
[09:54] <Guest666> it have gui ?
[09:54] <Lathiat> no
[09:54] <Guest666> !info vsftpd
[09:54] <Kream> and i'd rather scrape my eyeballs against rocksalt than remotely debug a windows network problem over IRC
[09:54] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 404 kB
[09:54] <jn> i would really like to get identd working in ubuntu i read some docs for pidentd but could not get it working, if you managed to get it working please help me out
[09:54] <Lathiat> jn: try oidentd
[09:54] <Lathiat> that works for me
[09:55] <Healot> it's runs as daemon, there is no need for GUI on that :-
[09:55] <Remy> hey guys, how can I check what port a PCMCIA modem is assigned to?
[09:55] <Remy> eg, /dev/ttySo, etc ?
[09:55] <jn> you are not using it now tho?
[09:55] <Lathiat> Remy: if you run 'dmesg|grep ttyS' it may become apparent
[09:55] <jn> your wi comes back as n= insted of i=
[09:55] <Guest666> !info traffic-vis
[09:55] <ubotu> traffic-vis: A sniffer that can display reports in HTML, Postscript and other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.34-17 (dapper), package size 55 kB, installed size 288 kB
[09:55] <jn> which leads me to believe you are not using it correctly
[09:55] <Lathiat> Guest666: theres pureadmin for pure-ftpd
[09:56] <Lathiat> i cant vouch for pure-ftpd tho
[09:56] <Lathiat> never used it
[09:56] <ricperry1> Kream:  I deactivated DHCP on the ADSL modem because I wanted to be able to reliably forward http requests to the correct machine.
[09:56] <jn> Lathiat: oidentd < are you using it now?
[09:57] <fleetreo> how do I download/install the plparser from source on mac os x. ? for rhythmbox?
[09:57] <ricperry1> Kream:  I have IP forwarding set to forward port 80 to laptop1.
[09:57] <Kream> ricperry1:  this isn't a windows xp support channel. i'm sorry i can't help you any further
[09:57] <ricperry1> Kream:  I figured it would come down to that.  Thanks for your help.  I'll probably just back up my data and start from scratch using Ubuntu.
[09:58] <brendonjt> hi ya  back again,  bloody computer,  locked up  then  it wouldn't boot up  couldn't find  any harddrives
[09:58] <ricperry1> I truely DESPISE windows.
[09:58] <Kream> ricperry1:  and get a native japanese speaker to help you with the ADSL modem. there should be some around where you live
[09:58] <ricperry1> lol
[09:58] <mixandgo> hello, how do I tell ubuntu where to look for packages cause I have two machines and I don't want two download each package twice
[09:58] <rouzic_ausente> alegrate, /me ha vuelto
[09:58] <brendonjt> rickperry1:  yip so do i it a poor os written poorly
[09:58] <Lathiat> jn: yes
[10:00] <jn> Lathiat: i dont think you are using it correctly, as your /wi comes back as n= insted of i= i believe you will find that if you connected to another network you will see ~name@ip meaning you are not utilizing identd
[10:00] <ricperry1> On a separate topic, does anyone know of a way to play iTunes purchased music on Ubuntu?  I can't use the WINE/iTunes method because WINE isn't available for AMD64 architecture.
[10:00] <Lathiat> jn: oh sorry
[10:00] <Lathiat> jn: not on this machien
[10:00] <Lathiat> that i irc from
[10:00] <Lathiat> but it deifnitely works i assure you :)
[10:00] <Lathiat> apt-get install and off youg o
[10:00] <Lathiat> no config necesary
[10:00] <jn> Lathiat: did you have to configure /etc/identd.conf?
[10:01] <Lathiat> unless you want to change the returned ident or whatever
[10:01] <Lathiat> jn: nope didnt touch it
[10:01] <mjr> ricperry1, there was that software named fairplay that can remove the DRM from them. May be illegal in your jurisdiction, of course. Thank Apple for noninteroperable music.
[10:01] <jn> it doesn't work for me
[10:01] <Lathiat> (its actually oidentd.conf)
[10:01] <Lathiat> well define doesnt work
[10:01] <Lathiat> are you behind a router?
[10:01] <dreamthief> ricperry1, i believe you're SOL ... and so am I ... :-/
[10:01] <Lathiat> perhaps need to forward 113?
[10:01] <brendonjt> rickperry1:  i have tried running itunes under wine  it don't work
[10:01] <Lathiat> running a firewall?
[10:04] <ricperry1> dreamthief, have you tried running a virtual machine (like VMWare)?  i haven't tried that.
[10:07] <elvirolo> hi all
[10:08] <elvirolo> i'm using kubuntu dapper with a french keyboard and my shift key doesn't work
[10:09] <elvirolo> same with alt gr
[10:09] <elvirolo> and all the F... series
[10:09] <elvirolo> can anyone help me *question mark*
[10:09] <brendonjt> why not set it to us-104 key
[10:14] <spiekey> hello!
[10:14] <brendonjt> spiekey:  hello
[10:14] <hatredx`> yo
[10:14] <overridden> howdy
[10:14] <spiekey> i have a german ubuntu installed which sucks when you want to google for errors. Is there a way to change to a english enviorment?
[10:15] <brendonjt> spiekey:  i think  it could be in the languages setting
[10:16] <brendonjt> spiekey:  system->admin->language support
[10:16] <overridden> maybe a little more then you want spiekey, but "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" is a cool command
[10:17] <kvsari> holy moley, this channel has a lot of people
[10:18] <overridden> ubuntu rox kvsari ;)
[10:18] <brendonjt> overridden: did i go a bit over the top?
[10:18] <nelly> Can anyone help with a printer problem? HP Deskjet 720C - trying to print test page I'm getting "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[10:18] <kvsari> Is ubuntu meant to hang on waiting for /? I did an upgrade to 6.04 from 5.10
[10:18] <overridden> live and learn, I guess
[10:19] <brendonjt> overridden: yip  but thanks for that tip  i'll store that one for latter
[10:19] <overridden> :)
[10:19] <kvsari> I've got a funky IDE expansion card where all my harddrives are on. During boot, ubuntu looks at /etc/mtab for mounting doesn't it?
[10:19] <brendonjt> overridden: so what does that command actually do
[10:19] <overridden> reconfigure all dpkg packages
[10:20] <overridden> thus -a for all
[10:20] <overridden> I think standard install just does "enter" the whole way
[10:20] <jn> i installed oidentd and identd is still not working for me
[10:20] <spiekey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  is indeed a little more than i want :D
[10:22] <overridden> "dpkg -l" is cool too
[10:22] <spiekey> does someone know a desktop sharing projekt (like vnc) where you can broadcast your own desktop or see the other desktops and connect to them?
[10:22] <overridden> vino
[10:22] <spiekey> on the linux days a school project had that
[10:23] <brendonjt> spiekey:  vnc
[10:24] <spiekey> i more look like somthing like vncselector
[10:24] <spiekey> http://vncselector.sourceforge.net/screenshot.png
[10:24] <overridden> spiekey: vino is what you are looking for
[10:24] <brendonjt> spiekey:  sorry  don't know it
[10:26] <billyp> got disconected earlier - did I miss a reply?
[10:26] <richiefrich> billyp i never saw a question
[10:26] <richiefrich> :P
[10:27] <brendonjt> me either
[10:27] <billyp> Oh right, this was it> Hi! Trying to run a game for my kids (Blob& Conqer). I have it compiled OK & it runs fine,  but only from the folder where I built the app. When I make a desktop launcher nothing happens. If I run it in terminal, it closes really fast. Is there a way I can debig why this is failing? Thanks (Newbie, 1st ever IRC post!)
[10:27] <ubuntu> hi room
[10:28] <richiefrich> billyp so it doesnt run in a term ?
[10:28] <KenSentMe> ubuntu: hi
[10:28] <ubuntu> hey ken
[10:28] <overridden> dude ?
[10:28] <Remy> hi, is there an equivalent to hyperterminal in ubuntu?  (telnet program that can talk to modems)
[10:28] <overridden> my name is "ken" lol
[10:28] <ubuntu> ohh
[10:28] <KenSentMe> overridden: did you send me?
[10:28] <overridden> no, sry :)
[10:28] <ubuntu> i meant KenSentMe
[10:28] <ubuntu> now dont u guys confuse me :(
[10:28] <jn> nobody ive whois'd in this channel has had identd installed, this is a nightmare for someone that is looking for help installing identd which used to be a common thing..
[10:29] <richiefrich> billyp  ?
[10:29] <jn> im going nuts
[10:29] <billyp> richiefrich: no the term starts & closes in a fraction when you use launcher
[10:29] <CatastrophicToad> hmmm...I didn't think myself good enough to use the handle "ubuntu"...seems sort of like calling yourself "god"
[10:29] <richiefrich> billyp  does it segfault ?
[10:29] <ubuntu> hey billy
[10:29] <richiefrich> billyp   whats the error?
[10:29] <overridden> Remy: remote desktop protocol
[10:30] <KenSentMe> CatastrophicToad: or you just login using Xchat and forget to change the nickname
[10:30] <Remy> overridden - could you give me more details?
[10:30] <CatastrophicToad> ah
[10:30] <billyp> richiefrich: don't get any error. just no response at all. Not sure waht segfault is :-)
[10:31] <richiefrich> billyp  howd u compile it
[10:31] <overridden> google for it Remy
[10:31] <richiefrich> manually >?
[10:31] <richiefrich> billyp   -->  ./configure && make && make install  ??
[10:32] <Remy> overridden - I'm not after actually connecting to a server via telnet, but rather talking directly to a modem
[10:32] <richiefrich> Remy what kinda a modem
[10:32] <billyp> ubuntu: hi!
[10:32] <billyp> richiefrich: OK will try that, thanks!
[10:32] <overridden> what do you mean "talking" Remy ?
[10:33] <richiefrich> billyp no wait ..
[10:33] <Remy> richiefrich - it's a pcmcia CDMA modem
[10:33] <richiefrich> billyp  is that what u did ?
[10:33] <Remy> overridden - I want to establish direct serial comms to it
[10:33] <Remy> rather than dial through it into something else
[10:33] <richiefrich> billyp  what did you do to inatsll it ?
[10:33] <Healot> remy: "minicom"
[10:33] <Healot> !info minicom
[10:33] <ubotu> minicom: friendly menu driven serial communication program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-10 (dapper), package size 150 kB, installed size 892 kB
[10:33] <billyp> richiefrich: still here (slow typer!)
[10:33] <Healot> damn the freaking package name!
[10:33] <Remy> thanks Healot
[10:33] <richiefrich> billyp ok
[10:34] <overridden> :)
[10:34] <Healot> wtf linuxers make package name "very hard to comprehend"
[10:34] <Iskanje> Hi all.. I've got a question
[10:34] <billyp> richiefrich: I ran make in a term, got lots of errors & then worked out which dev files I needed until compile ran. Think that was it..
[10:35] <billyp> richiefrich: didn't use the && at all
[10:35] <Iskanje> When I'm shutting down the system I get an error: "Configuration is not correct. Configuration file contains an invalid
[10:35] <Iskanje> command line for the login dialog, so running the default command.
[10:35] <Iskanje> Please fix your configuration."
[10:35] <richiefrich> billyp did u run .. make install
[10:35] <billyp> richiefrich: no
[10:35] <Iskanje> Where should I look to fix and what configuration?
[10:35] <ubuntu> billyp: sir 1 question for ya
[10:35] <richiefrich> billyp then u just compiled it
[10:35] <ubuntu> billyp:  can u run game via console mode?
[10:36] <richiefrich> ubuntu i think he means terminal.. thats what i took it as
[10:37] <billyp> richiefrich:  I have a folder with an executable & that tuns OK. Its geginning to look like I didn't install, isn't it?
[10:37] <ubuntu> prob. perm error?
[10:37] <ubuntu> may be heen needs to makr exe for other users?
[10:37] <gotama> Hi! My scanner is epson perfection 1270. How to install it? Where to read some information?
[10:38] <gotama> xsane doesn't detect my scanner?
[10:38] <richiefrich> billyp well if you  did   -- > ./configue   and  make  and n ot  make install then u never installed it
[10:38] <Remy> !tell gotama about scanning
[10:38] <jn> !tell jn about identd
[10:38] <richiefrich> !xsane
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[10:38] <jn> YOU SUCK
[10:38] <CSWookie> Are install CD's also live?
[10:38] <Healot> !find identd
[10:38] <ubuntu> CSWookie: some
[10:38] <ubotu> Found: bidentd, gidentd, midentd, nullidentd, oidentd (and 4 others)
[10:39] <gotama> Thanks
[10:39] <Remy> np
[10:39] <CSWookie> ubuntu: Which should I get to get this feature?  Desktop or serveR?
[10:39] <ubuntu> desktop
[10:39] <billyp> richiefrich: ubuntu: I see!!  I thought because I had a binray that ran, I'd finished...Should be OK now. many thanks guys, I thought
[10:39] <jn> Healot: i know about those, i just am not sure how to get them to serve their purpose, for example i installed oidentd, fowarded port 113 in the router made policy in firestarter but after a restart and connecting to irssi NO IDENTD
[10:40] <CSWookie> ubuntu: I want to try and fix my filesystem, before I ubuntufy.
[10:40] <Blacklight> anyone know if theres a program for Linux to run .exe or windows programs?
[10:40] <CSWookie> OK.  thanks.
[10:40] <ubuntu> Blacklight:  wine
[10:40] <archaios> Blacklight: wine
[10:40] <Blacklight> thanks guys :D
[10:40] <richiefrich> whats this new thing you guys are going to.. is there a date ?   "upstart"???
[10:40] <ubuntu> Blacklight: winehq.org
[10:40] <Blacklight> I just got ubuntu today, is quite the cool
[10:40] <archaios> winehq.com actually, ubuntu
[10:40] <ubuntu> yes i'm kool
[10:41] <ubuntu> just kidding ;)
[10:41] <Blacklight> Lol :P
[10:41] <CSWookie> Well, I told myself I'd give it a shot when I need to reinstall.
[10:41] <Blacklight> byt my computer [possibly my HDD]  makes wierd noises when ubuntu loads webpages...
[10:41] <CSWookie> And my filesystem ate it today.
[10:41] <ubuntu> Blacklight:  how old is hdd?
[10:42] <Blacklight> relatively new
[10:42] <Blacklight> its 150GB or so, so it cant be that old :p
[10:42] <Remy> does anyone know how to get an icon in the taskbar for a modem?
[10:42] <ubuntu> lol
[10:42] <Remy> atm I have to go to system-> administration->networking to disconnect the modem...
[10:42] <ubuntu> Remy:  for dialup connection?
[10:43] <Blacklight> ill just open it up and take a look. ...
[10:43] <Remy> ubuntu - effectively, yes.
[10:43] <CSWookie> Ugh.  I hat chatting on IRC with gaim.
[10:43] <ubuntu> Remy: try network-admin
[10:43] <Blacklight> hmmm. acutally, could be the fan...
[10:43] <Blacklight> wait no
[10:44] <Remy> ubuntu - that's what I currently use, but I want a shortcut directly to the modem...
[10:44] <spiekey> has someone here got childen? I am looking for some apps like gcompris for my kid :)
[10:45] <jn> how can no body be using identd
[10:45] <jn> its pretty common standard for some servers
[10:45] <ubuntu> jn:  what bout it?
[10:46] <jn> i installed oidentd but cant figure out how to utilize it with irssi
[10:46] <SpComb> identd doesn't work for my newley installed etch server either
[10:46] <Blacklight> best thingsi n life are free
[10:46] <Blacklight> hence... firefox
[10:46] <jn> i fowarded port 113 in router and firestarter
[10:46] <jn> do i need to config a conf somewhere?
[10:46] <ubuntu> jn:  i dont think so
[10:46] <SpComb> well, it works, but it always seems to return "ERROR : UNKNOWN-ERROR"
[10:46] <jn> welp it's not working
[10:47] <SpComb> although this is etch not ubuntu
[10:47] <ubuntu> u have ot see if irssi has inetd support
[10:47] <SpComb> irssi doesn't do identd
[10:47] <jn> SpComb: say what?
[10:47] <SpComb> /usr/sbin/identd does identd
[10:47] <jn> right
[10:48] <SpComb> it's a general daemon, not just irssi
[10:48] <SpComb> and for whatever reason, it doesn't work by default on etch
[10:48] <jn> SpComb: i see you got it working too
[10:48] <jn> can you please please please help me
[10:49] <SpComb> it doesn't work here either
[10:49] <jn> SpComb: its working for you according to your /wi
[10:49] <jn> SpComb i=terom@z
[10:49] <jn> is that a bnc?
[10:50] <ubuntu> ubotu: any good html editors?
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about any good html editors? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <ubuntu> ubotu: grrrrr
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grrrrr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <ubuntu> haha
[10:51] <agt> Hi - which package should I download to get the Qt headers and libraries?
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> !info nvu
[10:51] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> agt: libqt-dev I think
[10:51] <ubuntu> agt: qt3 i think
[10:52] <ubuntu> qt3-dev-tools
[10:52] <Madpilot> !html
[10:52] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu: that nvu is for you.
[10:52] <ubuntu> fyrestrtr: ok thanks
[10:52] <Madpilot> ubuntu, try Bluefish or Screem for HTML editing
[10:52] <agt> thanks
[10:52] <ubuntu> Madpilot: ty
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> also nvu :)
[10:52] <ubuntu> grcious :)
[10:52] <ubuntu> gracious*
[10:53] <Pantera> hi can anyone help me I can't seem to add or remove applications all of a sudden by using either add remove or synaptic
[10:54] <ubuntu> Pantera:  any errors sir?
[10:54] <Healot> nvu is wysiwyg >> less odd to use  for newbies
[10:54] <Iskanje> Can someone help me please..?
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu: its gracias :)
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> !ask
[10:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:54] <ubuntu> k :)
[10:54] <Pantera> i get the message failed to check for installed and available applications
[10:55] <ubuntu> brb
[10:55] <Pantera> and this is below it This is a major failure of your software management system. Check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information: 'sudo apt-get update'.
[10:55] <Iskanje> I did ask.. but here again: When I'm shutting down the system I get an error: "Configuration is not correct. Configuration file contains an invalid
[10:55] <Iskanje> command line for the login dialog, so running the default command.
[10:55] <agt> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[10:55] <Iskanje> Please fix your configuration."
[10:55] <Iskanje> What's the configuration I need to fix?
[10:55] <SpComb> jn: this is not the computer I'm talking about... try a /wii SpCombII... and I fixed it by installing oidentd, which seems to actually work
[10:56] <CSWookie> Aaron Lehmann#debian pisses me off.
[10:57] <CSWookie> Out of 11 pages of hits, there was only one unique one that was ME.
[10:57] <ritvik> hmm ... error while looking up definition Connection failed to the dictionary server at dict.org:2628 .. what do i do ?
[10:58] <JoshHendo> I have a windows network set up, and the network works fine connection to windows computers from other windows computers, but ubuntu can't connnect to any other computer (all windows :( ) and none of them can connect to ubuntu, and ubuntu can't connect to any others. Last night Ubuntu could see them but not connect, and now it can't even see them. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks!
[10:58] <Blacklight> can ubuntu even connect to windows?
[10:59] <SpComb> can you access, say google.com from ubuntu?
[10:59] <SpComb> what do you mean wiht connect?
[10:59] <rob> yes
[10:59] <Healot> i think he mean Windows Workgroup
[10:59] <JoshHendo> I can access the internet from Ubuntu (via the network), but can't connect to any other computer
[10:59] <SpComb> windows shares?
[10:59] <adivoinea> I upgraded amavis and now I get this error: "/usr/sbin/amavisd-new[8000] : TROUBLE in pre_loop_hook: Transactions not supported by database at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 670." What's wrong?
[10:59] <Healot> he needs to dance Samba!
[10:59] <SpComb> JoshHendo: if it's windows shares you mean, then you can define what you mean with "unable to connect"
[11:01] <SpComb> JoshHendo: please use the channel
[11:01] <JoshHendo> Ok
[11:02] <SpComb> I'm not familiar with ubuntu's windows networking, I'm just trying to get you to ask your question in such a way that someone may be able to answer...
[11:02] <JoshHendo> Ok
[11:02] <Blacklight> is it possible to install windows after installing ubuntu?
[11:02] <Pantera> how would I correct this error E: Type 'http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/ubuntu' is not known on line 80 in s ource list /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:02] <SpComb> JoshHendo: so you can ask whatever it was that you asked in the query in here
[11:02] <JoshHendo> anyway, it comes up wiht "The folder contens could not be displayed. Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: <workgroup name>".
[11:03] <thefish> Blacklight: you could just use vmware server
[11:03] <Blacklight> no, but my other HDD has 13k songs on it, and it windows formatted, lol
[11:03] <SpComb> Pantera: you need a "deb" as the first thing on the line
[11:03] <Remy> hey guys, does anyone know an fairly easy way of building GUIs for shell scripts?
[11:03] <Remy> any program / script language that it's easy to do in ?
[11:03] <thefish> JoshHendo: looks like an nmb issue, can you view them in konqueror with smb://windowspcname ?
[11:03] <megasquid> anyone know how I would configure ubuntu on my laptop to use an external monitor for display when I plug one in?
[11:04] <Remy> megasquid - you shouldn't need to configure anything
[11:04] <Pantera> so I would type deb sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <Remy> megasquid - it should pick it up automativally
[11:04] <thefish> Blacklight: you can still read ntfs fairly easily on ubuntu if thats all you want to do
[11:04] <SpComb> Blacklight: NTFS? Linux can read that (and recently, it can also write it)
[11:04] <JoshHendo> thefish: it came up with Timeout on server
[11:04] <Remy> SpComb - I haven't been able to get ubuntu to write to ntfs
[11:04] <elTigre> hi
[11:04] <Remy> !ntfs
[11:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:04] <megasquid> Remy: for some reason it doesn't, it only displays on my laptop screen
[11:05] <thefish> JoshHendo: you can view them from other windows pcs? ie on windows1 view \\windows2 ?
[11:05] <Remy> megasquid - does your laptop keyboard have a button to switch the display from laptop monitor to external source ?
[11:05] <JoshHendo> thefish: yes
[11:05] <elTigre> I have a new mp3 player that only stores data on an sd card
[11:05] <Remy> usually looks like two monitors in each other
[11:05] <BrianG> Pantera: make sure the line in your sources.list is deb http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/ubuntu dapper main to your /etc/apt/sources.list htt:/wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardLinuxInstall
[11:05] <Remy> !fuse
[11:05] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:05] <elTigre> this sd card isn't formatted
[11:05] <JoshHendo> thefish: windows can view windows, but ubuntu cant view windows, and windows cant view ubuntu
[11:05] <megasquid> Remy: yeah I tried that, but it doesn't do anything
[11:05] <Samuli^> SpComb, writing to ntfs is strongly adviced against. Support is experimental from what I've heard.
[11:05] <elTigre> and I can't get, how to format this damn card...
[11:05] <BrianG> Pantera: http:/wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardLinuxInstall
[11:05] <Remy> megasquid - I'm not sure then mate, that's all I have to do...
[11:06] <megasquid> Remy: the other monitor will display things during boot, but when xwindows loads it loses signal
[11:06] <elTigre> how can I format an mp3 player memory card?
[11:07] <thefish> JoshHendo: do you have any firewall running on the ubuntu box? and have you installed samba and libsmbclient?
[11:07] <Remy> megasquid - could it be that you have a resolution / refresh rate set that the monitor can't handle ?
[11:07] <Pantera> BrianG now how would I go editing it
[11:07] <JoshHendo> thefish: I don't have a firewall, but I will try installing libsmbclient, assuming it doesn't come with samba, as I have samba installed
[11:07] <BrianG> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <megasquid> Remy, possibly I'll play with it
[11:08] <thefish> JoshHendo: samba is a server only
[11:08] <Remy> does anyone know an fairly easy way of building GUIs for shell scripts?
[11:08] <Remy> any program / script language that it's easy to do in ?
[11:08] <elTigre> how can I format an mp3 player memory card?
[11:08] <Remy> elTigre - what kind of card?
[11:08] <ompaul> Remy, there is zenity but you still need to be able to script shell
[11:09] <Madpilot> Remy, xen
[11:09] <narg> Remy: kdialog can do basic stuff
[11:09] <Madpilot> xenity,rather
[11:09] <Remy> I can shell script... just never built GUIS for it
[11:09] <elTigre> SD memory card, "flash memory"
[11:09] <elTigre> 1Gb
[11:09] <narg> elTigre: is it really necessary to format it?
[11:09] <JoshHendo> thefish: libsmbclient appears to be installed
[11:09] <ompaul> zenity: Candidate: 2.14.3-0ubuntu1
[11:10] <Remy> thanks guys, I'll look into those options
[11:10] <elTigre> I don't know
[11:10] <ompaul> Madpilot, ^^
[11:10] <elTigre> I plugged in the mp3 player with the card in it
[11:10] <narg> elTigre: I doubt it is, what are you trying to do?
[11:10] <BrianG> Pantera: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:10] <elTigre> and it won't show up
[11:10] <elTigre> anywhere
[11:10] <Madpilot> ompaul, ah, I can't spell tonight - s/x/z ;)
[11:10] <narg> elTigre: does the card show up on the computer?
[11:10] <SpComb> Remy: it's possible using FUSE, but as Samuli said, it's very new and quite probably experimental
[11:10] <Pantera> briang does this look right then deb http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/ubuntu dapper main
[11:11] <elTigre> in the hard drives dialog there is a harddrive that is mentioned as mp3player but that's all
[11:11] <BrianG> Pantera: yes
[11:11] <elTigre> all my other usb devices are listed in the drive mount applet
[11:11] <Remy> SpComb - yeah, just read that :)  Will try it out later
[11:11] <elTigre> but not this mp3 player
[11:11] <narg> elTigre: can you open it?
[11:11] <^sunny^> how do I totally block an IP so my PC doesn't response to it in any way ? I use firestarter and I want to block an IP, so it cannot connect to any of my computer ports (80, 21 and 2222) Ho do I do that ?
[11:11] <elTigre> I don't know how to open something that's not on the desktop or panel...
[11:12] <elTigre> I don't even know the devices block name for sure
[11:12] <^sunny^> can anyone help ?
[11:12] <narg> elTigre: in the file manager, try /media/sda1
[11:12] <BrianG> Pantera: save the file. then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install picard
[11:12] <narg> ^sunny^: a firewall
[11:12] <elTigre> sda1 is my usb mass storage device
[11:12] <^sunny^> narg, I already use firestarter (which uses iptables)
[11:12] <Remy> then try sda2
[11:12] <narg> ok, try sda2
[11:12] <Remy> :)
[11:12] <elTigre> that thingy works, but it's a hard drive ;)
[11:12] <^sunny^> but it doesn't provide this option
[11:13] <elTigre> with many partitions...
[11:13] <narg> elTigre: sda2 is a harddrive?
[11:13] <narg> elTigre: try sda3 then ;)
[11:13] <^sunny^> narg, can u help ?
[11:13] <narg> ^sunny^: I know jack about firewalls :p
[11:13] <Pantera> BrianG thanks so much this is my first week on Ubuntu and loving it even problems like this end up being easy to solve compared to windows xp
[11:13] <^sunny^> what are the hosts.deny files and hosts.allow files ?
[11:14] <narg> elTigre: does /media/sda3 exist?
[11:14] <BrianG> Pantera: :D
[11:14] <BrianG> Pantera: picard is a sweet program too
[11:14] <elTigre> yes
[11:14] <BrianG> you're welcome
[11:14] <overridden> ^sunny^: "locate hosts.deny"
[11:14] <narg> ^sunny^: hosts will let you block this computer from that one, it really what you want.
[11:14] <narg> ^sunny^: *not really
[11:15] <elTigre> when I mount it in a console I  have to specify file system type, I tried vfat but "wrong fs or bad superblock"
[11:15] <^sunny^> well, and it hosts.deny will block that IP for any kind of connection to my machine ?
[11:15] <SpComb> ^sunny^: `man hosts.allow`
[11:15] <^sunny^> not only sshd ?
[11:15] <BrianG> Pantera: if you need help with picard join #musicbrainz
[11:16] <narg> elTigre: what device are you trying to mount?
[11:16] <martinvdk> How can I use my own drawn cursor, what file type should it be?
[11:16] <elTigre> sda3
[11:16] <elTigre> an mp3 player
[11:16] <SpComb> firestarter may or may not provide a way to do that using hosts.deny
[11:16] <narg> elTigre: this mp3 player can be used as a mass storage device, right?
[11:16] <Pantera> BrianG thanks so much I think I'll check that channel out
[11:16] <elTigre> though the hard drives dialog thought the mp3player is sdb
[11:16] <SpComb> ^sunny^: those files are unlikely to control the firewall
[11:16] <elTigre> yes
[11:16] <^sunny^> SpComb, so if I use hosts.deny will this file deny any kind of connection made from that IP to my computer ?
[11:16] <elTigre> supposedly
[11:16] <elTigre> according to the manual
[11:16] <SpComb> ^sunny^: no
[11:17] <narg> elTigre: ok, that's good at least ;)
[11:17] <^sunny^> SpComb, but what will they deny ?
[11:17] <SpComb> induvidual services
[11:17] <narg> elTigre: and we've established sda3 is the right device?
[11:17] <elTigre> I don't know
[11:17] <elTigre> it exist
[11:17] <elTigre> s
[11:17] <elTigre> and isn't mountable
[11:17] <^sunny^> SpComb, I want to block any kind of connection that an IP makes to my computer...I mean, I want to drop everything he sends to me
[11:17] <narg> elTigre: if you know sda2 isn't right, then we'll assume sda3 is
[11:18] <^sunny^> SpComb, and I don't want to let that IP use any of the services provided by my computer
[11:18] <SpComb> ^sunny^: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/policy-page.php
[11:18] <SpComb> in other words, RTFM
[11:18] <elTigre> ok
[11:18] <narg> elTigre: ok, one sec, looking something up
[11:18] <SpComb> ^sunny^: that looks like what you want
[11:18] <martinvdk> How can I use my own drawn cursor, what file type should it be?
[11:18] <AWOSDev> Can I use a terminal with my modem in Ubuntu?
[11:19] <AWOSDev> e.g. I want to type "ATI" or "AT1" ...
[11:19] <Netcad> how to check how much disk space i got left on a machine?
[11:19] <Justin_> NETabuse,  df -h
[11:19] <Justin_> Netcad, df -h
[11:20] <martinvdk> Netcad:  applications -> system tools -> system monitor ;)
[11:20] <narg> elTigre: have you ever used this player before (do you know it works?)
[11:20] <_mason> Gday All
[11:20] <^sunny^> SpComb, I can only see there that I can deny outbound connections to an IP, not inbound
[11:20] <AWOSDev> Kind of like the HyperTerminal in Windows (if you've ever used that program)
[11:20] <elTigre> no I just received it via mail
[11:20] <elTigre> but wait
[11:20] <_mason> Im looking for an application to record "wave" in ubuntu ?
[11:20] <jm^> _mason, g'day mate
[11:20] <elTigre> mysteriously something like mount /dev/sdb finally seems to go some place
[11:21] <martinvdk> _mason: audacity
[11:21] <AWOSDev> Is there a way to do this?  I went through the whole "Communications" and "Networking" sections in Synaptic but didn't see anything
[11:21] <narg> elTigre: so sdb works?
[11:21] <_mason> Thanks, ill check it out
[11:21] <martinvdk> audacity.sourceforge.net/
[11:21] <elTigre> wait a moment
[11:21] <_mason> ^ Wont apt-get work?
[11:21] <elTigre> it is mounted
[11:21] <martinvdk> maybe :D
[11:21] <elTigre> but i can't verify that it works
[11:21] <elTigre> yet
[11:21] <Justin_> test
[11:21] <narg> elTigre: cd /media/sdb; ls
[11:22] <elTigre> nothing in there
[11:22] <elTigre> oh it finally seems to work
[11:22] <narg> its new, that's to be expected
[11:22] <narg> so copy some files into it, and then attempt to use it. And hope it works.
[11:23] <AWOSDev> Am I missing something?
[11:23] <_mason> Um, martinvdk, Audacity wont detect any audio hardware?
[11:23] <Samuli^> what's the difference between ; and && in bash?
[11:23] <elTigre> it's goddamn slow but nautilus confirms a file in there now
[11:23] <Justin_> AWOSDev, Console - telnet ;D
[11:24] <Justin_> AWOSDev, What are you looking for exactly?
[11:24] <Justin_> _mason, Audacity suckers
[11:24] <narg> Samuli^: && waits for the command to finish and places sure it returns 0 -- I believe
[11:24] <narg> *makes sure
[11:24] <AWOSDev> I want to talk to my modem.
[11:24] <AWOSDev> :)
[11:24] <_mason> I believe, $aoss audacity   is working
[11:24] <Healot> minicom
[11:24] <_mason> ill be back if it doesnt :P
[11:24] <Healot> or just talk to it
[11:24] <Justin_> _mason, Also make sure that you are not using your soundcard at the same time .. some cards cannot do that sort of thing under Linux
[11:25] <AWOSDev> Meaning, I want to say ATI
[11:25] <_mason> Ohh, no it is not
[11:25] <Justin_> AWOSDev, Ok.. ok - have you marked all of the repositories?
[11:25] <Justin_> AWOSDev, - system -> software properties, mark'em all.
[11:25] <elTigre> hmpf the mp3 player thinks there is no file
[11:25] <MattRhodes> hi, anyone know how to deal with rar archives in ubuntu?
[11:25] <narg> is it in the correct format?
[11:26] <elTigre> I'm pretty sure
[11:26] <elTigre> I will try something else
[11:26] <_mason> Hmm, thats not very usefull. Im recording audio from an application ( Wearetheweb.org ) in the hopes of putting it on my ipod, but if i can use the sound device i cant have anything playing to record?
[11:26] <RizlaGromit> hi all.
[11:26] <Justin_> elTigre, Yeah that happens sometimes to me also - I believe it is an unsupported format, not a typical MP3
[11:26] <_mason> any other apps bar audcaity?
[11:26] <narg> MattRhodes: apt-get install unrar
[11:26] <MattRhodes> nice one
[11:26] <Samuli^> MattRhodes, you can use command-line rar or the default archive manager. You just need to apt-get rar.
[11:26] <Justin_> _mason, Ardour - if you can get jackD going ;)
[11:26] <MattRhodes> cheers :):)
[11:26] <_mason> Thats Justin_
[11:26] <SpComb> ^sunny^: you could change the inbound policy to deny and then explicitly specifiying what's allowed
[11:27] <^sunny^> SpComb, I want to allow all IPs but just deny one IP
[11:27] <Justin_> _mason, Yeah - well Linux is not the best system for recording - I know I make music, and I still go to windows for that ---- unfortunately the audio software in Linux.. is about as sosphisticated as windows software was in 96.
[11:27] <AWOSDev> Uh, I opened minicom, but my modem isn't on /dev/tty8
[11:27] <MattRhodes> test@test-desktop:~$ apt-get install unrar
[11:27] <MattRhodes> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:27] <MattRhodes> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:28] <Justin_> AWOSDev, ..tty8?
[11:28] <Justin_> ummm..
[11:28] <narg> MattRhodes: sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:28] <Healot> !root > MattRhodes
[11:28] <_mason> Gahh, Well.. i do dual boot.. but i dread booting into windows nowdays.. ill work up the courage to record it in windows
[11:28] <Justin_> Unless you have a really special modem, most of the time modems are ttys0 ot ttys1..
[11:28] <MattRhodes> ahh, cheers :)
[11:28] <elTigre> I'd really like to autoplug that thingy...
[11:28] <elTigre> like any other usb device...
[11:28] <AWOSDev> Justin_ -- yes it tried to open /dev/tty8
[11:29] <_mason> This month marks my 9th month using Ubuntu!
[11:29] <RizlaGromit> i have a silly question. I just got my CD of 6.06. how do i install without booting into the live cd desktop?
[11:29] <Justin_> _mason, Yeah same here - but fact of the matter is .. when it comes to music/home recording Linux is far far behind windows
[11:29] <narg> elTigre: sorry, I'd help you more, but its 4:30am here, so I've got to sleep. Nite.
[11:29] <_mason> as my desktop os
[11:29] <Samuli^> MattRhodes, your better of with rar-nonfree though.
[11:29] <elTigre> thanks
[11:29] <elTigre> bye
[11:29] <_mason> Justin_ And its a shame to
[11:29] <Samuli^> !rar
[11:29] <MattRhodes> eek: Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:29] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:29] <MattRhodes> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:29] <MattRhodes> is only available from another source
[11:29] <rav> hi all
[11:29] <Justin_> _mason, Yeah - but as a coding/network/work platform - Linux nails it
[11:29] <_mason> 12 times over
[11:30] <Healot> !info unrar
[11:30] <_mason> :D
[11:30] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[11:30] <narg> its the system for a poweruser.
[11:30] <Healot> !multiverse
[11:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:30] <Samuli^> MattRhodes, You don't probably have right repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:30] <Justin_> The problem is no major audio software developers will port their project over if they are bugged constantly to release the source - I wish we could have soundforge, or cool edit on Linux
[11:30] <Justin_> AWOSDev, Modems are ttysn
[11:31] <Justin_> AWOSDev, try ttys1 ttys0 and ttys2
[11:31] <AWOSDev> Justin_, you and I know that, but minicom doesn't
[11:31] <AWOSDev> Justin_ I already know where my modem is: /dev/ttySHSF0
[11:31] <MattRhodes> I think automatix might have overwritten my sources.list, even though I instructed it not to :(
[11:31] <Healot> AWOSDev: to what physical interface it is connected to?
[11:31] <MattRhodes> and I dont know what to do about that
[11:31] <Justin_> AWOSDev, What kind of modem do you have?
[11:31] <Justin_> I have never seen a modem all the way on ttys8
[11:32] <AWOSDev> Justin_, Healot: It's an HSF (softmodem) so it doesn't really have a "physical interface"
[11:32] <Justin_> ahhh...
[11:32] <Justin_> That explains it :P
[11:32] <AWOSDev> Justin_ I said it was trying to open tty8 not ttyS8
[11:32] <_mason> Thanks for your help Justin_ .. ill just record it in windows.
[11:32] <Justin_> _mason, Yeah better luck next year :P
[11:32] <AWOSDev> Justin_, I have the Linuxant drivers, and I can finally stat /dev/modem (YAY!) but nothing will use it
[11:32] <Justin_> Audacity, is like cool edit in 1996 hah :P
[11:33] <AWOSDev> Justin_ -- I actually have Cool Edit '96 :P
[11:33] <AWOSDev> Justin_ _mason, I like Audacity
[11:33] <Justin_> AWOSDev, Do you have tylenol available also? :P
[11:33] <_mason> So good news for linux users with regard to flash 9 progress.. does anyone know when and if Macromedia Flash will be ported to linux?
[11:33] <Justin_> AWOSDev, Yeah well for basic stuff its ok - but for actual song making etc - it sucks hard.
[11:34] <Justin_> It even lacks mix-pasting..
[11:34] <Justin_> _mason, Linux has flash :D
[11:34] <Justin_> 7...
[11:34] <Justin_> :))
[11:34] <AWOSDev> Justin_ yeah, but it worked great transferring LPs to CDs though
[11:34] <_mason> Flash 7!
[11:34] <nikin> manson_ if it deends on Adobe.. never..
[11:34] <_mason> Thats the only reason windows is still on my pc!
[11:34] <Justin_> I wonder if someone will make a Flash clone someday....
[11:34] <MattRhodes> I think automatix might have overwritten my sources.list, even though I instructed it not to, which would explain why I cant get unrar, anyone know what to do about the sources.list
[11:34] <larsemil> i have som problems with my swedish keyboardlayout. http://pastebin.ca/152983 is this part of xorg.conf ok?
[11:34] <th3james> its pretty easy to get firefox running thru wine with flash 9 thou
[11:35] <Justin_> MattRhodes, Automatix and Ubuntu are known to not play nice
[11:35] <dmsantam> what's a freemason?
[11:35] <dmsantam> !freemason
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freemason - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <_mason> th3james .. so just as easy to run Macromedia Flash 8 in wine?
[11:35] <AWOSDev> Oh I get it now
[11:35] <ubuntu> hello
[11:35] <SpComb> ^sunny^: I would know how to do it with iptables, but I don't know about firestarter
[11:35] <ubuntu> fyrestrtr:  r u there/
[11:35] <AWOSDev> tty8 is the shell I'm using :P
[11:35] <Justin_> dmsantam, men in a fraternity - highly involved in math - and must believe in a supreme being, if you want to know more -> ubuntu-offtopic
[11:36] <th3james> I never tried flash 8, i just know that i got flash 9 running without hiccup
[11:36] <^sunny^> SpComb, ok thank you anyway ;)
[11:36] <nikin> _manson the Flash 8 will not be ported to Linux asfar aas i know
[11:36] <MattRhodes> it wasnt known to me, although it is now, is there anything I can do to restore sources.list, I never made any backups like the rampant n00b I be :(
[11:36] <nikin> but please say i ame wrong, Flash would be vital for me to
[11:36] <_mason> nikin.. well They Should!
[11:36] <dmsantam> MattRhodes apt-setup
[11:36] <AWOSDev> Justin_ -- any way to tell minicom where to shove it's output?
[11:36] <dmsantam> oh, maybe not on ubuntu grr
[11:37] <MattRhodes> thanks dmsantam
[11:37] <ubuntu> what was command to register nickname on irc?
[11:37] <dmsantam> ubuntu, /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password
[11:37] <Justin_> MattRhodes, -> settings - software - > synaptic -> refresh
[11:37] <nikin> _manson: why? i mean, they have their platforms, and Adobe is not the one who stands out for free software
[11:37] <Justin_> MattRhodes, -> settings - software properties select all  then - > synaptic -> refresh
[11:37] <_mason> I think its still all rumours at this point.. but theres a market for it.. they are only holding back because of DRM issues are they not?
[11:38] <MattRhodes> thanks Justin
[11:38] <ubuntu> dmsantam: ty
[11:38] <_mason> nikin who says it should be free, just run will make me happy
[11:38] <_mason> cross platform
[11:38] <nikin> dmsantam: not /msg nickserv register nick?
[11:38] <th3james> what we really need is an open source replacement for it, it sucks that such a large amount of the net relies on propriety technology
[11:38] <Justin_> I do not mind not having the newest flash, I block out most flash.. - its a pretty worthless tech... - except for google video and flash 7 sucks bad at google video
[11:38] <dmsantam> nikin oh, to register... oops :)
[11:39] <Justin_> th3james, I agree
[11:39] <nikin> _manson: i mean that they have maybe some agrement with Microsoft and Apple or so...
[11:39] <dmsantam> nikin i didn't know he meant register a new nick :)
[11:39] <_mason> .. thats because of us flash 7 users, the rendering technology has improved in what.. 10 year!
[11:39] <_mason> 'years
[11:39] <ubuntu> not sure it worked or not
[11:39] <ubuntu> :(
[11:39] <_mason> (i made 10 up.. just saying.. wish i had 9
[11:39] <MattRhodes> Justin: where is the settings menu?
[11:39] <archaios> I assassinated Iosef Vissarionovich Stalin
[11:40] <Justin_> MattRhodes, Oopsie sorry - I just woke up I meant "system" then software properties
[11:40] <Justin_> make sure they are all selected, then fire up synaptic - and click "refresh"
[11:40] <MattRhodes> cheers
[11:40] <larsemil> what could be wrong when the swedish keyboardlayout is working, but not the swedish characters?
[11:40] <AWOSDev> Okay I have a new modem problem
[11:40] <AWOSDev> Can anybody help me?
[11:40] <Justin_> AWOSDev, ? :S
[11:41] <dibblego> what is the correct way to get ssh-agent started at boot time? I can do it with eval "`ssh-agent`" in a rc script but I am not sure this is right
[11:41] <nikin> _mason IMHO i ame against flash, and videoadvertising on webpages... i ame a bitt oldschool, still using Flash5 when it is realy nescesarry... i ame realy affraid about that nowdays you need 2Ghz to see a f*kin webpage
[11:41] <AWOSDev> I can stat /dev/ttySHSF0
[11:41] <AWOSDev> but cannot echo or minicom to it
[11:41] <AWOSDev> cannot open /dev/ttySHSF0: No such device or address
[11:41] <Justin_> nikin :))
[11:41] <MattRhodes> Justin: there is nothing in my system menu for software properties, and nothing called synaptic
[11:41] <Justin_> Haha, yeah - I block out flash a lot like I said before, too much worthless stuff done with flash
[11:41] <Samuli^> larsemil, character set probably. Do they look fine to you, but crap to everyone else?
[11:41] <Justin_> The only useful thing I have ever seen flash being used for is google video
[11:42] <AWOSDev> But there *is* such a device or address.
[11:42] <MattRhodes> Justin: actually, I take that back
[11:42] <MattRhodes> oops
[11:42] <larsemil> Samuli^, nothing happens as i press the buttons.
[11:42] <^sunny^> SpComb, can you please teach me how to add a rule to iptables that blocks that IP ?
[11:42] <nikin> Flash was in the begin a nice idea... and until the first MX it was almost usable... but nowdays.... i realy dont know.
[11:43] <Justin_> nikin, Well the thing with flash is it.. is sometimes overused..
[11:43] <Justin_> I like having a webpage with content rather then graphics..
[11:44] <AWOSDev> So what could be my problem?
[11:44] <nikin> Justin_:sometimes? .. better say allways... i can cont on one hand of mine how many well designed flash pages i have seen in the past 2 years
[11:44] <Justin_> I mean when you have webpages that have higher system req's then the browser, thats bad. :))
[11:45] <Samuli^> larsemil, then it's your xorg.conf me thinks. It has not been configured to use the extra buttons. Try: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep XkbModel
[11:45] <Samuli^>         Option      "XkbModel" "pc105"
[11:45] <AWOSDev> I think I should clarify my problem.
[11:45] <nikin> Justin_ i agree... i mean webpages are designed to share information... i dont want the web become a TV..
[11:45] <Samuli^> The last line should've not been there :)
[11:45] <_mason> nikin, Yeah the cpu strain is something to keep in mind... and its growing to be a problem, But i have a soft spot for a well designed site (not really content wise) and, Css and or Flash is key!
[11:45] <nikin> justin_ but lets stop.. its offtopic :D
[11:46] <_mason> Ok ok
[11:46] <Justin_> nikin, You make a good point - should only the people that can afford top of the line systems be able to access information on the web?
[11:46] <Justin_> nikin :)) true
[11:46] <AWOSDev> I installed the Linuxant drivers.  Before that I did not have a /dev/modem or /dev/ttySHSF0.  Now I do.  I can stat them, and they are in ls.  But when I try to, for example, "echo ATI > /dev/modem" or run minicom, it says "No such device or address".
[11:46] <spiekey> hello.
[11:46] <_mason> Good Day!
[11:46] <spiekey> i have upgraded from sarge to dapper and now my md0 device is "gone"
[11:46] <RMorris85> i need help with my screen resolutions... I have had 1280x800 on my laptop before and when i install draper i ended up with only 1024x768 and I would like to be able to get it back up, andyone point me in the right direction?
[11:46] <Andy> ompaul: Hey ompaul i got success with the network
[11:47] <spiekey> i can still mount the single disks with "mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt"
[11:47] <Justin_> RMorris85, What driver did you have installed before?
[11:47] <ompaul> Andy, good stuff, slowly but surely you get there
[11:47] <Samuli^> RMorris85, you need to add that resolution to your xorg.conf
[11:47] <RMorris85> well before im talking about windows lol
[11:47] <Justin_> RMorris85, You can change your res's in your xorg - or "system" access
[11:47] <spiekey> why wont dapper find my md0 anymore? raidtab is unchange
[11:47] <spiekey> why wont dapper find my md0 anymore? raidtab is unchanged
[11:47] <SpComb> ^sunny^: iptables -A INPUT -s <ip> -j REJECT
[11:47] <SpComb> ^sunny^: it'll go away after a reboot
[11:48] <RMorris85> justin_ i did change the xorg and it never showed up in admin / screen resoulutions
[11:48] <^sunny^> SpComb, -A or -I ?
[11:48] <nikin> _manson: i stopped webdesigning about 2 years ago.. i ame a designer.. and those are not nedded yet... everyone has a portal, even if he has no info to share, or a Flash based ionteractive fiction of 10+ megs with about one A4 pages of info
[11:48] <Justin_> RMorris85, Ahh - well windows drivers and Linux not the same - but edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf - and add the resolution, see if that works for you.
[11:48] <SpComb> append should be fine...
[11:48] <Uriku> hey, how can I read linux HDs from winXP?
[11:48] <Justin_> RMorris85, Then most likely your Linux driver cannot handle it
[11:48] <spiekey> mdadm: cannot open /dev/md0: No such file or directory
[11:48] <_mason> nikin its 'Mason" :P
[11:48] <spiekey> what/who created /dev/md0 ?
[11:49] <RMorris85> Justin_ no way around this?
[11:49] <Justin_> For instance I have higher res in Linux then I can in windows - windows limits me to 1024x768 - Linux I can get up to 2000
[11:49] <nikin> _mason: sry
[11:49] <Justin_> RMorris85, Google for new drivers .. that's about it.
[11:49] <Justin_> or write a new driver :P
[11:49] <_mason> Size is not normally an issue.. Id blame it on a poorly designed website! :P
[11:49] <_mason> Flash compression is quite impressive
[11:49] <Healot> what size :)
[11:50] <AWOSDev> All I want to do is "ATI; ATD 8351220".  That's *it*.  Is that so hard?
[11:50] <SpComb> spiekey: `mdadm --assemble` your raid array? It should autodetect it though....
[11:50] <Justin_> Nikin, - You really despise flash don'tcha? lol
[11:50] <Uriku> how do I read\write in Linux Hard Drives\partitions from Microsoft's Windows XP?
[11:51] <_mason> Justin_ I think it beat him as a child :P
[11:51] <MattRhodes> Justin: I did what you said, it downloaded all the packages except the last one http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[11:51] <^sunny^> SpComb, I tried that but thet IP can still connect to the services I run on my ports (21, 80 and 2222)
[11:51] <AWOSDev> I'm sorry I'm being such a pest.  I hate being a pest.  But I've got a hurricane that will be here in less than 18 hours and I need the modem to work before then!
[11:51] <Justin_> _mason,  :)) well flash does suck though..
[11:51] <AWOSDev> Otherwise I would be waiting patiently as always.
[11:51] <th3james> does anyone know of any open source project to do with flash? i thort i heard something a couple of months ago, but that may have been day dreaming
[11:51] <MattRhodes> Justin: so I still cant apt-get unrar :(
[11:51] <_mason> Justin_ Pfft, to each his own.. but flash brings in the money
[11:51] <azathoth> th3james: there's supposed to be an open source version of flash being made
[11:51] <Justin_> MattRhodes, That's ok - you do not need all of them, only about 4 are loaded at default and you still have like 50,000 choices ;)
[11:51] <_mason> civil folk dont know the difference
[11:51] <spiekey> SpComb: mdadm -A /dev/md0 --> mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such file or directory
[11:52] <nikin> Justin_ i just see like that: if you make a cake then it will not become better if you put in about 2kg of sugar
[11:52] <_mason> azathoth, Really? tell me more
[11:52] <_mason> Thats interesting
[11:52] <MattRhodes> Justin: I think I might have screwed up my install, maybe its time to reformat and start again, and not use autofuckyoursystemupix next time
[11:52] <Justin_> nikin, :)) I agree with you - I also do not like where the net is heading flash wise
[11:52] <Justin_> except for google video, I like that idea
[11:52] <AWOSDev> !language
[11:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:52] <^sunny^> SpComb, so this means there's no way of rejecting incoming from an IP but at the same time allowing outgoing packets to that IP ?
[11:52] <MattRhodes> sorry
[11:53] <Justin_> ubotu, botsnack
[11:53] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:53] <Uriku> though... now there's this SVG thing
[11:53] <SpComb> ^sunny^: then you must have some other rules in INPUT that allow that ip
[11:53] <AWOSDev> Aw, is the little bot hungry?  :)
[11:53] <_mason> Justin_  If you immediately knew the candle light was fire then the meal was cooked a long time ago.
[11:53] <Justin_> MattRhodes, :)) - naw no need to do that ... some repositories are busy thats all
[11:53] <nikin> btw.. i have to go now, have some work to do... CUl8R
[11:53] <SpComb> spiekey: mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb ...
[11:53] <Justin_> nikin, later
[11:54] <_mason> Seya all
[11:54] <MattRhodes> Justin: thats good to hear, so what do you think is up with sudo apt-get install unrar?
[11:54] <AWOSDev> Bye _mason and nikin
[11:54] <_mason> Thanks anyway Justin_
[11:54] <_mason> Bye AWOSDev
[11:55] <AWOSDev> So Justin_ -- is my modem just completely cooked?  Cooked like the 150+ degree Fahrenheit chip that it is?
[11:55] <hikenboot> hello all-- can anyone recommend where there is a list of functionally unncessary packages in ubuntu 6.0.6 live cd..for instance open office I found a comprehensive list for knoppix just looking for one for ubuntu...
[11:55] <spiekey> SpComb: http://pastebin.ca/152997
[11:56] <spiekey> SpComb: i dont want to touch my 2nd device yet since its mirrored and i can still access it. i dont want loose data
[11:56] <Justin_> AWOSDev, It could be - but more then likely it is because your modem is a retard, and by retard I mean lombotomized - lacking chips...
[11:56] <Justin_> But it has been a while since I have played around with dial-up modems, so I couldnt say
[11:57] <AWOSDev> I would like a better modem, but there's a probelm
[11:57] <AWOSDev> *problem
[11:57] <Justin_> AWOSDev, ?
[11:57] <th3james> quick bit of googling with regard to OSS flash produced this http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[11:57] <AWOSDev> when the power goes out for 7 days, an externally-powered modem won't exactly work (e.g. Frances, Jeanne, Katrina, Rita, Wilma, and now Ernesto -- unwelcome tourists to Florida :P )
[11:57] <Healot> use serial modem
[11:57] <AWOSDev> Healot, read above
[11:58] <SpComb> spiekey: dunno then, mdadm should be able to create it...
[11:58] <Justin_> AWOSDev, ahhh true
[11:58] <AWOSDev> My Desktop PC has a softmodem that works; heck I'd just use that if I *HAD POWER*...
[11:58] <AWOSDev> I forgot Charley and Ivan in that list too :)
[11:59] <aLPHa_LeaK>  moin
[11:59] <jhb> hi *. Is there a way to have ubuntu dapper reconfigure the sound? As in dpkg-reconfigure ...?
[11:59] <AWOSDev> Since '04 we've been hit by 7 (about to be 8) hurricanes.
[11:59] <AWOSDev> This is the first one with Linux
[11:59] <Justin_> th3james, Nice I never heard about this project before
[12:00] <Justin_> AWOSDev, I would say it is time to move :P
[12:00] <th3james> looks like its pretty early in dev, but its something we really need IMO
[12:00] <usuario> oloa
[12:00] <rugbythomas> You have 1 broken package on your system! Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.
[12:00] <rugbythomas> how do i do this
[12:01] <usuario> hellow
[12:01] <Justin_> th3james, Yeah well if nikin is right and the net becomes more like television and only flash can play the pages - it will be a dark day for information.
[12:01] <Dimensions> hi any one around to help me connecting me to the internet with gprs modem of my phone ?
[12:01] <th3james> Justin_ i couldent agree more
[12:01] <usuario> server irc.arrakis.es
[12:01] <Justin_> Speaking of dark day, im away from Gnome and KDE for that very reason - they are close to having "registries" now .. and you all know that the registry is the first step towards software control....
[12:02] <th3james> Justin_ what are you using then?
[12:02] <AWOSDev> Justin_ I'm already looking to move to near Portland, Oregon -- as far away as possible :P
[12:02] <th3james> lol
[12:03] <AWOSDev> Well I best be off to download the new coordinates to my storm tracker
[12:03] <AWOSDev> which BTW they don't have one for Linux -- I'm having to use DOSemu >:x
[12:03] <Justin_> th3james, XFCE and ICEWM
[12:03] <AWOSDev> Goodbye!
[12:03] <Justin_> AWOSDev,  lol
[12:03] <Justin_> be safe :P
[12:04] <AWOSDev> Okay I'll try my best -- already have the storm shutters up
[12:04] <AWOSDev> Bye!  and wish me and my poor poor car luck!
[12:04] <Justin_> we will
[12:04] <AWOSDev> (yes I said car -- during last year she almost got totalled)
[12:04] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Anyone know what bot moniters this channel?
[12:04] <th3james> Justin_ i havent heard anything about e17 in ages, all the chatter died out when XGL +Compiz came along...
[12:04] <AWOSDev> Well bye anyway
[12:04] <AWOSDev> for real this time :)
[12:05] <th3james> bye
[12:05] <Justin_> Compiz =)) *rolls*
[12:05] <Justin_> laster AWOSDev
[12:05] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> !ati
[12:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:05] <Justin_> Compiz is the most useless thing I have ever seen in my life
[12:05] <Justin_> To each his own, but I could not comprehend how this "compiz" could make my work easier :P
[12:05] <Ackeee> Heeey my bro told me redhat is the biggest linux distro. is that true?
[12:05] <Justin_> Ackeee, I would say SUSE is
[12:06] <Justin_> SUSE is like what 10 cd's and growing?
[12:06] <th3james> its not about making work easier, its about competing with eye candy from Apple and Microsoft, and drawing in new users
[12:06] <opexoc> how can I change *.rmvb format of movie to *.avi for example ?
[12:06] <Uriku> what can read ext hard drives from Windows XP well?
[12:06] <Justin_> th3james, lol... well what is going to be even more hilarious - is that when Vista shows off its "3d" ability - it will be hailed as a "innovation"
[12:07] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:07] <Justin_> Heck the new MacOS is calling multiple desktops "new and innovative"
[12:07] <Uriku> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:08] <asdasdd> hi, someone can help my?
[12:08] <Justin_> asdasdd, Depends what is your problem?
[12:08] <spiekey> SpComb: i got it running so far, but i am not sure if its all well and clean: http://pastebin.ca/153006
[12:08] <th3james> i think the cube really helps users with the idea of visualising multiple desktops, it amazed me how many people cram all their stuff into one desktop
[12:08] <asdasdd> sorry if my inglis is bad, i'm spanish...
[12:08] <MattRhodes> Justin: sudo apt-get install unrar gives error message test@test-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:08] <MattRhodes> Password:
[12:08] <MattRhodes> Reading package lists... Done
[12:08] <MattRhodes> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:08] <MattRhodes> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:08] <MattRhodes> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:08] <MattRhodes> is only available from another source
[12:08] <MattRhodes> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[12:08] <MattRhodes> test@test-desktop:~$        Any ideas?
[12:08] <ompaul> paste
[12:08] <ompaul> !paste
[12:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:08] <spiekey> Active Devices : 1 --> why only one? i should have two, shouldnt i?
[12:09] <ompaul> !es
[12:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:09] <Justin_> th3james, hehe
[12:09] <Ludo> bonjour, je passe juste pour vous dire que hier a a march pour ceux qui m'ont aid, un grand merci  tous !!
[12:09] <gnomefreak> !fr
[12:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:09] <spiekey> lol
[12:09] <asdasdd> i've install ubuntu 6.06, and XGL
[12:09] <asdasdd> but
[12:09] <Ludo> ah excuse me
[12:09] <Ludo> bye
[12:09] <Uriku> !he
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about he - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <asdasdd> i can't install
[12:09] <Uriku> ...
[12:09] <Justin_> MattRhodes, You have to manually download RAR/UNRAR - it is not available from synaptic/aptget
[12:09] <asdasdd> compiz...
[12:09] <ompaul> asdasdd, this is not a xgl support channel that is #ubuntu-xgl thanks
[12:10] <asdasdd> ok sorry
[12:10] <Justin_> asdasdd, Oh I see
[12:11] <th3james> Justin_ you said that gnome and KDE are moving towards having registries, could you elaborate on that a bit more, u have me worried
[12:11] <ompaul> !repos > MattRhodes
[12:11] <SpComb> spiekey: the other one has been removed from the device... perhaps because you have it mounted?
[12:11] <ompaul> MattRhodes, please read the message from the bot
[12:11] <Justin_> th3james, Well yeah if you look a bit more on google a lot of people are worried - they even haev projects called "kde registry" going, and the way KDE is keeping track of software on your system etc
[12:11] <Uriku> can you please help me to allow reading and writing access to my Linux Hard Drive from Windows XP?
[12:12] <spiekey> SpComb: its not mounted. but i did do some minor changed on hdd and not on hdc. so they are not exactly sync
[12:12] <Justin_> Remember how microsoft told us first the registry, was to make life easier - so we could have programs in order etc?
[12:12] <ompaul> thejames, Justin_ I fail to see how that is a ubuntu support issue please move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:12] <Justin_> Well from that came DRM and all this other control
[12:12] <Ackeee> Uriku ill give you  2 apps
[12:12] <Justin_> Yeah ompaul your right
[12:12] <th3james> well thats just fantastic, looks like im off 2 fluxbox...
[12:12] <Ackeee> Ext2IFS_1_10b
[12:12] <Uriku> thank you Ackeee
[12:12] <spiekey> SpComb: is there a way to force a disk into my array and to sync it?
[12:12] <Ackeee> FreeOTFE_01_60_00
[12:13] <Uriku> !il
[12:13] <ubotu>          
[12:13] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[12:13] <Ackeee> Uriku:  got those?
[12:13] <ompaul> Uriku, that would be install some software on your non windows box
[12:13] <billyp> Hi, I've compiled a game OK using make. ( doesn't have a configure script) When I then try 'make install', I get the error " No rule to make target `install'".  I'm not specifying a target because I didn't think it necessary. Any ideas?
[12:13] <Uriku> where can I find those?
[12:13] <Justin_> billybennett, You need a configure file
[12:13] <Justin_> billybennett, Your sure there is not one? - possibly named something other then "configure" ?
[12:14] <Uriku> Uriku, that would be install some software on your non windows box <~~~ what?
[12:14] <ompaul> Uriku, no idea at all, I would check out sourceforge and see if you can find something for windows there
[12:14] <Uriku> ...
[12:14] <Ackeee> Uriku: openOTFE wasnt a app like that. sryu
[12:14] <Justin_> try ./filename - on all green filenames in the directory from a term
[12:14] <^sunny^> when I scan my localhost wity nmap it appears that CUPS listens on 631. I did not install CUPS. How do I remove CUPS from my system ?
[12:14] <billyp> Justin: well , I ran that in the folder & it didn't fnd anything. Will look harder...
[12:14] <ompaul> ^sunny^, question, do you use a printer?
[12:15] <^sunny^> ompaul, no I don't
[12:15] <SpComb> spiekey: perhaps mdadm /dev/md0 --re-add /dev/hdb
[12:15] <SpComb> spiekey: you can also try using the --force
[12:15] <Justin_> billybennett, Look in console - all the files that appear bright green
[12:15] <Dimensions> can some one help me in a problem regarding gprs modem connection via cell phone ??
[12:15] <^sunny^> ompaul, Ubuntu just installed CUPS without asking me....how can I remove it ?
[12:15] <Uriku> bash: cannot find the force.     damn non jedic system :P
[12:15] <ompaul> ^sunny^, it would be better to turn it off than remove it, /etc/init.d/cupsys stop
[12:16] <ompaul> ^sunny^, it would be better to turn it off than remove it, /etc/init.d/cupsys stop
[12:16] <^sunny^> ompaul, why not remove it ?
[12:16] <^sunny^> I don't use any kind of printer
[12:16] <ompaul> ^sunny^, for upgrade purposes
[12:17] <^sunny^> upgrade to what ? I will never buy printer :P
[12:17] <ompaul> next version of ubuntu
[12:17] <spiekey> mdadm /dev/md0 --re-add /dev/hdb1  ? or hdb?
[12:17] <^sunny^> ompaul, ok so how can I make it not start at system bootup anymore ?
[12:17] <Uriku> well, flash me if you find anythign
[12:17] <Uriku> anything*
[12:18] <ompaul> ^sunny^, if you are using the gui the best tool is "bum" boot up manager
[12:18] <spiekey> SpComb: mdadm /dev/md0 --re-add /dev/hdb1  ? or hdb?
[12:19] <^sunny^> ompaul, and if I use only commandline, how do I disable it ?
[12:19] <kholerabbi> could someone tell me a command that will launch a new terminal and run a command in it?? (e.g; "terminal <command")
[12:20] <whazilla> hey
[12:20] <Serendib> hello
[12:20] <whazilla> got ubuntu probs installing xgl
[12:20] <whazilla> the prob is libc6
[12:20] <whazilla> i need newer version ...
[12:20] <whazilla> how do i do that ?
[12:20] <Madpilot> whazilla, #ubuntu-xgl for xgl issues
[12:21] <whazilla> it's a libc6 isuue
[12:21] <whazilla> so ubunti issue ?
[12:21] <KenSentMe> whazilla: ubuntu-xgl is also ubuntu
[12:21] <whazilla> i got hedgehog
[12:21] <Serendib> I have a question about the distro itself... I will be using the machine for mostly c/opengl development, can I install that out of the box or am I going to need to do a manual install?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Whatsisname: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:21] <whazilla> how do i update libc6 ?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Whatsisname: look up
[12:22] <gnomefreak> damnit
[12:22] <billyp> Justin: can't see a configure script anywhere. I have a makefile, an executable and various folders
[12:22] <Justin_> whazilla, #ubuntu-xgl
[12:22] <KenSentMe> whazilla: if you have hoary then maybe you should update to dapper drake
[12:22] <whazilla> ther idle ther
[12:22] <whazilla> i said hi
[12:22] <gnomefreak> whazilla: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade if that doesnt update your libc6 than i wouldnt try
[12:23] <Justin_> billyp, Well you cannot use a make file without a config of what to make - so either you did not read the instructions, or your pack is lacking files - or it's already compiled and its a messy packaging job
[12:23] <kholerabbi> whazilla:::::::: its probably best if you get dapper, but in the meanwhile use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[12:23] <gnomefreak> whazilla: since you are trying to get xgl/compiz working you do belong in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:23] <whazilla> nope
[12:23] <kholerabbi> @kick whazilla
[12:23] <kholerabbi> hehe
[12:23] <whazilla> i'm trying to update libc6
[12:23] <hikenboot> anyone know where there is a list of packages that can safely be removed from 6.0.6 and still have a functional live cd..example openoffice
[12:23] <gnomefreak> whazilla: what does uname -r say
[12:24] <kayde> what is the apt get code to download/install wine??
[12:24] <whazilla> kk
[12:24] <Justin_> hiken, What does open office have to do with the live cd method?
[12:24] <kholerabbi> kayde: winehq.com
[12:24] <Justin_> :P
[12:24] <phanter> hey there, little problem with my dapper laptop. It seems that my / is full, but I do not knwo how or with what. How can I find out and what could (in general) be the the cause?
[12:24] <kholerabbi> kayde: use there dapper repos
[12:24] <archaios> except he is tight
[12:24] <archaios> kholerabbi: their
[12:24] <Justin_> Hiken, as long as you do not play with basic libs and X - the live cd will be ok if you stripped it bare of apps
[12:24] <whazilla> 2.6.10-6-386
[12:24] <whazilla> uname -r
[12:25] <gnomefreak> whazilla: you need to update to dapper
[12:25] <hikenboot> I am rebuilding a ubuntu live cd and want to remove extraneous packages that are in it to make room for my own packages
[12:25] <Justin_> phanter, a file manager?
[12:25] <whazilla> is ther an updater online ?
[12:25] <kayde> kholerabbi: ok :)
[12:25] <kholerabbi> archaios: where?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> whzthe libc6 that is in dapper will work with xgl
[12:25] <archaios> hikenboot: "that are in it" is superfluous
[12:25] <kholerabbi> kayde: s'allright
[12:25] <archaios> hikenboot: do not use tautological constructs
[12:25] <archaios> kholerabbi: "alright"
[12:25] <phanter> Justin_: what do you mean?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> !upgrade > whazilla
[12:25] <archaios> or "all right"
[12:25] <gnomefreak> whazilla: please read your pm
[12:25] <whazilla> i know gnomefreak but is ther a updater from hedge to dapper ?
[12:25] <Justin_> phanter, Same as windows go through your files and right click properties - figure out what is using your space
[12:26] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of ubotu or somthing similar?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> whazilla: you have to update to breezy than dapper
[12:26] <Justin_> Phanter.. file manager you know .. konq,nautilus,thunar etc
[12:26] <hikenboot> you are trying to tell me you dont understand what I mean?
[12:26] <archaios> Whatsisname: I, there, no space between words and punctuation
[12:26] <Lynoure> phanter: do    du    and look at the usages
[12:26] <billyp> %C8Justin: Right. The instuctions were sparse & the forums seemed to have a lot of questions from people who obviously knew what they were doing & yet still had problems. I'll manage with it as is. Thanks
[12:26] <kholerabbi> archaios: nope. "s'allright" double-L because I am talking in Modern Old English and I am simply joining the words "all" and "right" :P
[12:26] <archaios> hikenboot: "don't"
[12:26] <whazilla> thkx gnomefreak
[12:26] <archaios> kholerabbi: then it would be "s'all'right"
[12:26] <phanter> Justin_: there are nice and handy tools for windows to ease the proces (not that I ever used any), are there any for linux?
[12:26] <whazilla> allso wanted to know
[12:26] <Justin_> Hiken, GO crazy with it - as long as you keep the basic libs and x in shape no prob
[12:26] <archaios> kholerabbi: all contractions involving removal of space require an apostrophe
[12:26] <whazilla> what is best way to backup a linux ?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> !backup
[12:26] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[12:27] <whazilla> thkx
[12:27] <archaios> kholerabbi: but the more correct way would be 's'all right
[12:27] <Justin_> phanter, It does not get any easier then .. file managers
[12:27] <hikenboot> I can generate a very long list of packages that are included with ubuntu 6.0.6 many are not necessary for the basic function of the cd I need a list of ones that fit this bill...for instance Openoffice.org is on the cd and the cd will work without it ] 
[12:27] <archaios> Justin_: than
[12:27] <Justin_> archaios, than then
[12:27] <phanter> oke, but the strange thing is that it must have filled up tin the last week and I do not know why/how?
[12:28] <kholerabbi> archaios: no, the s was simply for sound effects :P
[12:28] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> DEBIAN FTW!!!!!!!!
[12:28] <archaios> phanter: okay, in, the question mark is unnecessary
[12:28] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> All: sorry had to get that out
[12:28] <archaios> kholerabbi: the "'s'" is a contraction of "it's" which is in itself a contraction of "it is"
[12:28] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> :)
[12:28] <manmadha> how to connect to the brodband (using telephone net)
[12:28] <archaios> kholerabbi: it is an exclusively Australian usage
[12:29] <archaios> i.e. idiomatic speech
[12:29] <kholerabbi> archaios: Grammar is defined by its use. I am speaking colloquially and thus correctly
[12:29] <archaios> kholerabbi: I am not saying it is wrong
[12:29] <Ackeee> Uriku: if you want to read or write to a linux drive i would use ltools. but if you want to mount the linux drives in windows id use the other app i told you bout
[12:29] <archaios> I'm explaining its etymology
[12:29] <Serendib> can i burn a CD iso to a DVD by extracting the cd iso contents to a folder, then making a bootable data dvd with the same contents?
[12:29] <kholerabbi> archaios: indeed it is not exclusively Australian, as its in Harry Potter
[12:29] <Lynoure> phanter: it's easier to find out the cause once you know what got huge
[12:29] <kholerabbi> whois: archaios
[12:29] <archaios> kholerabbi: it originated in Australia
[12:29] <archaios> kholerabbi: I assure you
[12:30] <kholerabbi> hmmph
[12:30] <archaios> kholerabbi: read any dictionary of etymology
[12:30] <kholerabbi> what is the whois command?
[12:30] <manmadha> can any one tell how to connect to internet through telephone??
[12:30] <archaios> kholerabbi, /whois
[12:30] <gnomefreak> guys stay on topic please
[12:30] <kholerabbi> thanks
[12:30] <Uriku> Ackeee: where can I find Ext2IFS_1_10b?
[12:30] <kholerabbi> aha so you are Australian
[12:30] <KenSentMe> !modem > manmadha
[12:30] <Madpilot> kholerabbi & archaios - could you take the English/grammar discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM please?
[12:30] <Ackeee> http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[12:30] <archaios> kholerabbi: as are you
[12:30] <Uriku> thanks
[12:31] <Uriku> but it doens't have capability
[12:31] <Uriku> write*
[12:31] <kholerabbi> well perhaps you're right about the contraction of it's into 's' but it's always hard to tell where something comes from
[12:31] <Uriku> write capability
[12:31] <manmadha> KenSentMe, how to connect to it?????
[12:31] <Serendib> anyone have an answer to my question?
[12:31] <archaios> Madpilot: my apologies, dear fellow, but I am merely attempting to expedite the usage of the Queen's English
[12:31] <gnomefreak> kholerabbi: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <kholerabbi> Madpilot: oo, sorry, I thought I was on -offtopic :), don't know what I'm doing here
[12:31] <kholerabbi> gnomefreak: ^^
[12:31] <gnomefreak> saw
[12:31] <Ackeee> Uriku: www.fs-driver.org/ NEWER version
[12:32] <Uriku> ^^;
[12:32] <Uriku> but it doesn't have utf8 suppose
[12:32] <Uriku> support
[12:32] <aptitude> irc://irc.irdsi.net/kaos
[12:32] <whazilla> so i need 2 download 2 cd's gnomefreak
[12:32] <fnozzke> spreadsheet can be used in ubuntu?
[12:32] <Ackeee> Uriku: yeah it is probably true
[12:32] <KenSentMe> manmadha: at the bottom there's a part called 'Configuring the dialup connection to your provider'
[12:32] <gnomefreak> whazilla: no
[12:32] <whazilla> one being badger and one dapper
[12:32] <Ackeee> Uriku: then i would use LTools. or at least have a look at it. and see if it works
[12:33] <whazilla> then i don't get it how i update o0
[12:33] <^sunny^> What clients of DC++ do you know for Linux ? Other that LinuxDC++ ....... ?
[12:33] <whazilla> gksudo "update-manager -d" this then ?
[12:33] <manmadha> KenSentMe, but i am using broadband.....not dial up connection
[12:33] <gnomefreak> whazilla: the shortest easiest way for you to upgrade is burn a dapper 6.06.1 iso burn it and install cleanly
[12:33] <archaios> KenSentMe... ah, the days of LSL1
[12:33] <archaios> ;)
[12:33] <gnomefreak> whazilla: no dont use that command
[12:33] <whazilla> why not ?
[12:34] <whazilla> is dist still broken ?
[12:34] <KenSentMe> manmadha: ah, ok. You said telephone in your question
[12:34] <KenSentMe> archaios: :)
[12:34] <ompaul> ^sunny^, work gets in the way of irc :) console install and use rcconf
[12:34] <gnomefreak> whazilla: change the repos to point to breezy instead of hoary than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:34] <manmadha> KenSentMe, ya
[12:34] <manmadha> KenSentMe, how to connect??
[12:34] <gnomefreak> whazilla: when that is dont do the same using dapper instead of breezy
[12:34] <gnomefreak> s/dont/done
[12:35] <Uriku> meh, I'll use that fs-drivers program
[12:35] <Uriku> thanks
[12:35] <Uriku> :)
[12:37] <Ackeee> Uriku: tell me about the issues. I dont get it with the Utf-8 thingy
[12:37] <Lynoure> phanter: How is it going?
[12:37] <Uriku> ^^; well it said that it did not support utf8 in it,
[12:38] <Uriku> and I heard that there are problems with it,
[12:38] <Uriku> specificly with non-english characaters
[12:38] <phanter> Lynoure: just did the du, imported into oo.org calc and sorted it. now checking the result. no progres yet
[12:38] <whazilla> gnomefreak
[12:38] <whazilla> Change your repositories to look for Breezy (open menu Settings/Repositories and Edit each source to change "hoary" to "breezy")
[12:38] <Uriku> err... I shouldn't mount the swap partition right?
[12:38] <whazilla> i can't find this
[12:38] <whazilla> i got a diff language setup
[12:38] <whazilla> wher do i find that ?
[12:39] <Lynoure> phanter: usually the culprit is in /var
[12:39] <whazilla> thers no settings nor less repositories
[12:39] <Uriku> Ackeee: should I mount the swap partition?
[12:39] <phanter> oke, i'll check that first
[12:40] <Jimmey> When using vnc viewer, can I opt to see the vnc server's screen on a smaller scale?
[12:40] <tn3270> phanter : can shortcut the process using find / -size +10000k -mtime -7 or something like that
[12:40] <ompaul> whazilla, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list << --- in there, but before you do know this, you should do >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< before you update - the upgrades work "ubuntu to ubuntu" not "some changed ubuntu to some changed ubuntu"
[12:41] <whazilla> i did that thkx
[12:41] <whazilla> needed the gedit or nano line
[12:41] <soundray> Jimmey: no, but you can start another VNC server with a smaller screen. Use e.g. -geometry 640x480
[12:43] <Jimmey> soundray, ahh. Could I kill the current VNC server a restart it with that option?
[12:43] <ompaul> whazilla, and before you start I very very strongly advice that you actually just get the dapper CD (download it) and be done with it - if your connection is slow or intermittent then use bittorrent to get it it can resume - because you will be stepping to breezy and onto dapper less downloads, that is all the advice I can give you on that
[12:43] <ompaul> ^sunny^, did you get that last thing I said
[12:43] <Dimensions> Hiya... is it possible to bind wget with a download link for softwares and put it into cron on reboot or at specified time it should download some softwares
[12:44] <soundray> Jimmey: yes, if you have access to it. Use vncserver -kill :1 (or whatever the correct screen number is)
[12:44] <ompaul> Dimensions, you could or you could make a script of it and have cron call the script
[12:44] <^sunny^> ompaul, no I did not
[12:44] <ompaul> ^sunny^, work gets in the way of irc :) console install and use rcconf
[12:44] <kayd1> i need help with installing a theme...
[12:44] <Uriku> don't I need to reboot before using the Ext2 thingy for windows?
[12:44] <Dimensions> ompaul: if i make a tcl script how can i add the line to get a link with wget ?
[12:44] <^sunny^> ompaul, I don't understand what you mean :)
[12:44] <phanter> I just found the problem.
[12:45] <ompaul> ^sunny^, to stop and start start up services at the console, go and install and use >>rcconf <<
[12:45] <^sunny^> oh yeah :) ok
[12:45] <drick> hello guys
[12:45] <kayd1> heya
[12:45] <adrakoa> hi
[12:46] <phanter> I have installed 2 backup programs lately (hubackup and sbackup) one of them made a backup of my /home on my /var (thanks for the tip). I cannot remember giving the order for doing that. I will have a better look at it later :) thanks for help
[12:46] <ompaul> Dimensions, don't know tcl but if you have the address of the script you can get cron to call it
[12:46] <drick> does anyone know how to uninstall enlightenment dr17? i compiled it from source.. and dont know how to uninstall it... sorry for the newbie question...
[12:46] <ompaul> !checkinstall
[12:46] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> isnt it make uninstall
[12:47] <ompaul> gnomefreak, your right (1 - 1)
[12:47] <gnomefreak> unless you installed it with checkinstall
[12:47] <drick> i think i did a make install
[12:48] <gnomefreak> drick: did you use the script to build from cvs?
[12:48] <drick> no... it didnt work...
[12:48] <gnomefreak> yeah i figured as much
[12:48] <gnomefreak> drick: how did you install it
[12:49] <drick> so i do a make uninstall?
[12:49] <adrakoa> when i run enemy  territory, i have a black screen and only sound ...  my graphics card i810,  glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering: Yes
[12:49] <Lynoure> phanter: sounds likely to be circular linkage, then
[12:49] <adrakoa> i try with a lot of resolution and depht..
[12:49] <gnomefreak> drick: i need to know the commands to be sure but sudo make uninstall should work.
[12:50] <ompaul> gnomefreak, your right
[12:50] <drick> gnomefreak: thanks for the advice man, much appreciated...
[12:50] <ompaul> gnomefreak, can you test something for me
[12:50] <gnomefreak> ompaul: yep if for edgy atm
[12:50] <ompaul> gnomefreak, well given you have a "box to break ;-)"
[12:50] <ompaul> I'll msg it
[12:50] <gnomefreak> always ;)
[12:51] <Lynoure> phanter: many backup systems try to be smart and guess what you want, sometimes with bad results
[12:51] <ompaul> gnomefreak, you got a test :)
[12:52] <phanter> Lynoure, I see :). I think I'll help in the hubackup development then, maybe I can do some good there :) hahaha, thanks for help
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ompaul: will start building something small ;)
[12:53] <ompaul> gnomefreak, something from the back end of universe - oneko or some such
[12:53] <phanter> Lynoure: hmm, it is not in hubackup, but in sbackup
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ompaul: you have a link to that?
[12:54] <ompaul> gnomefreak, I will get it now
[12:54] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:54] <some1> hi
[12:55] <ompaul> gnomefreak, too hard do a hello world :-)
[12:55] <whazilla> k next prob
[12:55] <gnomefreak> lol im doing it no
[12:55] <gnomefreak> now
[12:55] <whazilla> how do i make ubuntu mnt my ntfs ?
[12:55] <whazilla> read/write ?
[12:55] <ompaul> !ntfs > whazilla
[12:55] <ompaul> whazilla, read the message from ubotu
[12:56] <drick> gnomefreak: dude, where should i type the "sudo make uninstall" command?
[12:56] <drick> which directory?
[12:56] <ompaul> drick, in the one you typed make install
[12:56] <whazilla> !fuse
[12:56] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:57] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[12:57] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:57] <gnomefreak> in the directory that tar -xvzf made
[12:57] <Lynoure> phanter: Giving feedback to the developers is always good
[12:57] <gnomefreak> drick: the same one you type ./configure in
[12:57] <drick> ompaul, thanks dude
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ompaul: works
[12:57] <drick> gnomefreak: thanks too...
[12:57] <gnomefreak> yw drick
[12:57] <ompaul> gnomefreak, change the factoid :)
[12:57] <muhammad> heey som1 played with my ubuntu and changed the permission for sudo and had this message in terminal sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0
[12:58] <muhammad> what shall i do !!
[12:58] <gnomefreak> what one
[12:58] <muhammad> a friend of me :s
[12:58] <ompaul> muhammad, that was no friend
[12:58] <muhammad> so what he was !
[12:59] <mwe> muhammad: change it back
[12:59] <ptenf> hi all, does anybody know a backport of spamassassin for ubuntu 6.06? Alot of spam catching, especially new spam,  depends on the spamassassin package to pretty much up to date!
[12:59] <KenSentMe> muhammad: restart ubuntu in recovery mode and do chown root.root /etc/sudoers
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ompaul: what fact?
[12:59] <ompaul> muhammad, as the machine reboots, press escape, choose recovery and cd to the directory and do chown root:root /etc/sudoers
[12:59] <adrakoa> whazilla, man fstab
[12:59] <ompaul> gnomefreak, checkinstall
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:59] <muhammad> oke i will now
[01:00] <muhammad> i wont tell any1 after now my passwd :S
[01:00] <ompaul> gnomefreak, not sure what to put in there - maybe it should be a url and instructions
[01:00] <mwe> muhammad: that's a good rule of thumb ;)
[01:00] <ompaul> gnomefreak, gone again
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ompaul: give me a bit ill think of something
[01:07] <Jincast> hi all
[01:10] <adrakoa> hi... when i run enemy  territory, i have a black screen and only sound ...  my graphics card i810,  glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering: Yes ,i try with a lot of resolutions and dephts..
[01:10] <Jimmey> adrakoa, give up.
[01:11] <hoxzer> :O
[01:11] <Jimmey> adrakoa, I've got an 855GM which works for normal desktop purposes under the i810 driver, but ET's not worked no matter what I've tried
[01:11] <adrakoa> snif
[01:11] <mwe> Jimmey: Do think it's even good enough to play ET anyway?
[01:12] <Jimmey> mwe, on Windows, it's decent, with the Intel drivers
[01:12] <Jimmey> On Linux, I don't think there's a chance
[01:12] <mwe> Jimmey: I see
[01:12] <Jimmey> When I finally got it working, full screen, with the DRI drivers, I got 8FPS
[01:13] <mwe> Jimmey: only simple gl stuff works decently on my 855GM
[01:13] <Jimmey> mwe, yeah
[01:13] <adrakoa> sad notice..
[01:14] <mwe> Jimmey: like glxgears :)
[01:14] <Jimmey> Sorry adrakoa
[01:14] <adrakoa> thx ...
[01:14] <omerlh> Hello
[01:14] <fnozzke> does ubuntu have any torrentprogram?
[01:14] <CSWookie> Hey folks.  How do I burn a CD ISO?
[01:14] <mwe> fnozzke: yes
[01:14] <omerlh> I have problem with installing open office through apt
[01:14] <CSWookie> In windows, to install ubuntu from.
[01:15] <fnozzke> what its called mwe ?
[01:15] <mwe> fnozzke: bittorrent
[01:15] <omerlh> The programe installed but the core and main packeage doesn't and synptic said:
[01:15] <fnozzke> aha, thxe
[01:15] <omerlh> "has no available version, but exists in the database"
[01:15] <mwe> fnozzke: or bittorrent-gui
[01:15] <omerlh> for each of them
[01:15] <fnozzke> oki isee
[01:15] <mr_smeegal> can someone help me i want to unrar 26 files in the same directory in one shot
[01:15] <screechingcat> can someone tell me how to verify a kubuntu ISO i just burnt ? i use XP
[01:15] <mwe> fnozzke: apt-cache search -n torrent
[01:15] <mr_smeegal> not 26 individual times
[01:16] <omerlh> What this mean?
[01:16] <omerlh> How do I solve it?
[01:16] <misieq> whete can i get some c++ help?
[01:17] <mr_smeegal> anyone
[01:17] <screechingcat> @omerlh try ktorrent or azureus or bittornado
[01:17] <mr_smeegal> what would command line be... unrar with what options
[01:17] <mwe> mr_smeegal: unrar *.rar maybe
[01:17] <overridden> unrar -x *.rar
[01:17] <nils_> can someone with experinece customising debian-installer have a look at this and tell me what i'm doing wrong.... http://www.olofsson.tv/debian-installer/errors.htm
[01:18] <omerlh> What, How these program will solve it?
[01:18] <screechingcat> they are all torrent programs
[01:19] <omerlh> Open office? It's not a torrent programe, how much I know
[01:19] <mr_smeegal> if i run unrar e *rar
[01:19] <screechingcat> were did i mention openoffice ?
[01:20] <mr_smeegal> it just says Extracting from blah.rar nothing to extract
[01:20] <screechingcat> i said ktorrent or azureus or bittornado
[01:20] <omerlh> You said it will help me, Don't you?
[01:20] <omerlh> My problem is with installing open office
[01:20] <omerlh> and this eror:
[01:20] <omerlh> "has no available version, but exists in the database"
[01:20] <omerlh> for some Pakcages
[01:21] <davidmurtas> hola
[01:21] <screechingcat> ok sorry. slight confusion there. how about tryin sudo apt-get update
[01:21] <whazilla> where do i download dapper ?
[01:21] <screechingcat> and then sudo apt-get upgrade and then retry to install
[01:21] <IdleOne> ubntu.com
[01:21] <IdleOne> ubuntu.com
[01:21] <omerlh> I try this after getting source list from the site
[01:21] <misieq> i know it might not be a channel for it, but anyone knows how can i convert short int to some string type for use in string.insert(0, number_here); ?
[01:22] <screechingcat> y are u installing openoffice anyways ? its there by default
[01:22] <omerlh> It was there and work good before the upgrade. now it just gone
[01:23] <omerlh> some of it can be install and other bring the eror.
[01:23] <screechingcat> i dont get you. could u tell me your prob again. from the begining ?
[01:23] <whazilla> where do i download dapper ?
[01:23] <omerlh> Yeah
[01:23] <omerlh> I have the breezy. I done an upgrade.
[01:23] <screechingcat> @whazilla ubuntu.com
[01:23] <albertomurtas> ola
[01:23] <omerlh> open office gone.
[01:24] <omerlh> I installed it through apt-get
[01:24] <whazilla> i have sonic hedge hodge
[01:24] <screechingcat> can u show me ur sources.list ?
[01:24] <omerlh> the core and some more packges bring this eror:
[01:24] <albertomurtas> ola
[01:24] <omerlh> "has no available version, but exists in the database"
[01:24] <omerlh> I have a source list from ubuntu site
[01:24] <IdleOne> ola albertomurtas
[01:24] <albertomurtas> jose
[01:24] <IdleOne> !es
[01:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:24] <omerlh> open office main scrren wprk from command line
[01:25] <screechingcat> post it in the pastebin and give me a link
[01:25] <albertomurtas> ola
[01:25] <albertomurtas> aola
[01:25] <albertomurtas> ola
[01:25] <albertomurtas> oal
[01:25] <omerlh> But you can't only open writer or spreadshit
[01:25] <albertomurtas> ola
[01:25] <albertomurtas> ola
[01:25] <albertomurtas> ola
[01:25] <IdleOne> !op
[01:25] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:25] <albertomurtas> ola
[01:25] <albertomurtas> oal
[01:25] <omerlh> O.K.
[01:25] <albertomurtas> ol,a
[01:25] <albertomurtas> ola
[01:25] <Blacklight> stop it
[01:25] <albertomurtas> ola
[01:25] <IdleOne> thank you
[01:25] <Blacklight> thanks
[01:25] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: too late :P
[01:25] <gnomefreak> ty Hobbsee ;)
[01:25] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:26] <omerlh> Where is pastebin?
[01:26] <omerlh> it is pastebin.ubuntu.com?
[01:26] <Miek> it's in the topic :(
[01:26] <screechingcat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:26] <AbstractIdiot> !grub
[01:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:28] <Leovinus> hello
[01:28] <Blacklight> hey
[01:28] <Leovinus> i have a problem
[01:28] <Blacklight> lol, ive reformatted my PC 6 times in the last 40 hours
[01:29] <Blacklight> what be it?
[01:29] <arno> Hello, I have a problem printing. I get an error /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed. What should I doN
[01:29] <arno> ?
[01:30] <Blacklight> oh, thats beyond me. I still have to get myself a printer :P
[01:30] <Leovinus> i have a slow machine so it takes ages to compile anything, i am impatient, i strive to use aac in xmms, and the only method i can see is to compile, this takes hours to do, is there an alternative??
[01:30] <omerlh> I can't write there
[01:30] <omerlh> But there it is:
[01:30] <omerlh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21975
[01:31] <screechingcat> seems alright to me.
[01:31] <omerlh> It's from ubuntu site
[01:31] <screechingcat> try installing thru aptitude
[01:32] <omerlh> apt-get?
[01:32] <screechingcat> sudo aptitude install openoffice
[01:32] <omerlh> what is it?
[01:32] <screechingcat> replace apt-get with aptitude
[01:32] <arno> ??
[01:32] <screechingcat> its like apt-get but only much better
[01:32] <omerlh> Ok
[01:32] <ompaul> arno, the best way to tackle printing issues is to go to the menu System -> Administration -> Printing and remove any printers turn off your printer and restart the machine and set up the printer again from the same menu  (and have some patients)
[01:33] <arno> I'll try!!
[01:33] <Leovinus> can anyone advise
[01:34] <ompaul> omerlh, from the menu, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal, in there type "sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get update" then go about your daily business
[01:35] <omerlh> I try this, it doesn't help ompaul
[01:35] <ompaul> omerlh, what error message are you getting?
[01:35] <omerlh> "has no available version, but exists in the database" for some of the packages
[01:36] <ompaul> omerlh, what package in particular?
[01:36] <goudkov> hi guys, is there a command that can be used to print out a certain byte range from the input file? something like from byte 145 to byte 364. i don't want to use head and tail for that because i have to work with really large files.
[01:36] <omerlh> screechingcat, How can I know it install? I don't see eror or anything else
[01:36] <omerlh> wait, I will tell you
[01:36] <omerlh> It's from synaptic
[01:37] <ompaul> omerlh, you can't do what I suggested while synaptic is open please colse it
[01:37] <ompaul> omerlh, please close it
[01:37] <Howitzer> I'm having a weird problem, when i open gnome-terminal, it starts in the root dir instead of the home dir.. (i'm a regular user and i have no other terminals open)
[01:37] <rancorus> Hello, I am trying to install winxp using VMware and it stucked at the part where it "installs peripherals" or something like that. Is there anything I can do ?
[01:37] <omerlh> I know, i done it when it was close
[01:37] <omerlh> :)
[01:37] <Howitzer> rancorus, there is a guide on Ubuntuforums.com on how to install XP with vmware
[01:38] <omerlh> openoffice.org2-core
[01:38] <screechingcat> what did aptitude throw up ?
[01:38] <ompaul> omerlh, just do openoffice.org and let the machine do the rest
[01:38] <ompaul> omerlh, it should be there by default
[01:39] <screechingcat> here we go again
[01:39] <rancorus> Howitzer: I know but the guide I found stops giving info when it says : then install windows xp and enjoy
[01:39] <screechingcat> he upgraded from breezy to dapper and openoffice diappeared
[01:39] <_peter> Hi all! I've already tried so many things, but I can't install ubuntu 6.06.1 desktop amd64. The installation always freezes at "copying files". The CD is ok, I've also done MemoryTest, no errors.
[01:39] <ompaul> screechingcat, does the word pinned come to mind
[01:40] <ompaul> _peter, have a look at the page, wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[01:42] <whazill> hey
[01:42] <omerlh> Sorry, my conputer stack
[01:42] <omerlh> ompalo, I'm starting again:
[01:42] <AbstractIdiot> !grub
[01:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:42] <whazilla> 6.06 ubuntu is dapper ? == ?
[01:42] <Blacklight> probably
[01:42] <omerlh> yes
[01:42] <whazilla> k
[01:42] <whazilla> :D
[01:43] <Blacklight> :P
[01:43] <AbstractIdiot> Hey on this on the install grub thing
[01:43] <AbstractIdiot> type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install.
[01:43] <AbstractIdiot> Do I include /boot?
[01:43] <CSWookie> How do I burn a CD from Windows?
[01:44] <habeeb> Whats the Ubuntu site like http://www.apt-get.org. Does it exist?
[01:44] <Blacklight> yeh, the ubuntu site should be default homepage on firefox
[01:44] <omerlh> mozilla-openoffice.org, openoffice.org2-common, openoffice.org2-core, openoffice.org2-java-common, openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us, openoffice.org-debian-files,
[01:44] <omerlh> There is more files that I doesn't check
[01:44] <Blacklight> does it run full screen?
[01:44] <omerlh> But this enough, not?
[01:44] <Blacklight> woops wrong channel
[01:44] <habeeb> Blacklight: file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[01:45] <arno> Hello again, I still get that error when I print : foomatic-rip failed
[01:45] <arno> I don't know what I should do...???
[01:45] <_peter> ompaul, why should I look at this page? the livecd is booting without problems and ubuntu is working properly. Just the installation crashes
[01:45] <Blacklight> www.ubuntu.com
[01:46] <ompaul> _peter, have a look at that page and see what you might disable some of those - why do I suggest that? well cos it is a well known reason for machines freezing during install
[01:47] <omerlh> Ompaul, you saw the list?
[01:48] <arno> ??
[01:48] <ompaul> omerlh, you have had some funny sources in the past - that is why it is looking at that debian file which does not live in ubuntu - no idea what your next step is, I have no idea where you got that from that might give me a clue
[01:48] <_peter> thx ompaul, i will try disabling acpi and pcmcia
[01:48] <ompaul> arno, no idea
[01:49] <ompaul> arno, and take your time
[01:49] <omerlh> I have that list from ubuntu site
[01:49] <leks> can I somehow generate 500 home folders for certain users
[01:49] <leks> ?
[01:50] <redblades> Hi, I'm having an odd issue with my mouse - it freezes up every once in a while, it just did it 3 times in a row now, but it does it randomly usually.
[01:50] <Blacklight> it couldbe your mouse
[01:50] <redblades> Sometimes when I use the scroll bar it does it, but sometimes for no reason.
[01:50] <Blacklight> does it only happen with linux?
[01:50] <redblades> I think so...
[01:51] <Blacklight> my mouse goes wacko from time to time, but thats coz my mouse is pretty old :P
[01:51] <redblades> I don't recall it ever happening with WinXP, but I haven't run XP for quite a while...
[01:51] <ompaul> _peter I don't do dcc chat
[01:51] <redblades> My mouse is a Microsoft USB laser.
[01:51] <Moodles> does anyone know how to check to make sure my harddrives which aren't in use are on standby/turned off ?
[01:51] <Blacklight> same
[01:52] <redblades> Wheel mouse optical 1.1A USB and PS/2 Compatible.
[01:52] <Blacklight> bleh, ive got no idea about mine
[01:52] <CSWookie> burning cds is hard.
[01:53] <redblades> I used to have a USB serial adapter, but I lost it, and I think that was when the trouble started...
[01:53] <Blacklight> id suspect the mosue because linux seems to have awsome generic driver software. but it could be ubuntu
[01:53] <fantysun> hi
[01:55] <redblades> Blacklight, HOW DARE YOU TRY AND BLAME UBUNTU FOR THIS! IT CAN DO NO WRONG!
[01:55] <redblades> :p
[01:55] <xcasex> is there a specifc channel for translators?
[01:55] <redblades> Of what?
[01:55] <redblades> Don't say languages
[01:56] <xcasex> redblades, heh. yes. languages
[01:56] <vincenz> Hello, I have two questions.  One is for my personal use, the other is more discussional.  The first is rather simple: is there something similar to Microsoft One Note for ubuntu (something to organize my TODOs).  Secondly, I have convinced my mother (who's not that goood at computers) to switch to linux (ubuntu).  Is there any good source out there on how to get started, something like linuxxing for dummies, that deals with std stuff like openoffice ba
[01:57] <redblades> xcasex, No, for what? You'd do better to pick a project.
[01:57] <xcasex> redblades, i already am. heh.
[01:58] <xcasex> using rosetta to translate to swedish
[01:58] <redblades> Ah.
[01:58] <nader> Sud
[01:58] <Dru> can anyone suggest a easy to setup & use HTTP file server app?
[01:59] <Dru> been using http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/ but its only windows based & I want a Linux alternative
[02:01] <IndyBC> What is the difference between the packages smtpd and sendmail ?
[02:01] <IndyBC> Aren't they both mail servers?
[02:02] <realist> IndyBC: smtpd package appears to be a "mail proxy" package
[02:03] <vincenz> Does anyone here use thunderbird yet still uses fetchmail to retrieve mail
[02:03] <realist> IndyBC: which _depends_ on sendmail
[02:03] <IndyBC> ok
[02:08] <Dru> Think Abyss web server may be what I am looking for
[02:09] <vincenz> Anyone know a good replacement for microsoft onenote?
[02:10] <xcasex> no.
[02:10] <cafuego> Anyone know what microsoft onenote is or does?
[02:10] <Dru> no
[02:10] <xcasex> there are no freeform notepads like voodoopad or onenote for gnome/ubuntu
[02:13] <_Rappy_> is there some sort of colorpicker application for ubuntu/linux? So i don't have to fire up GIMP each time I need to find a color and it's hexvalue?
[02:13] <vincenz> Something to wriite down todos and notes
[02:14] <vincenz> Secondly, does anyone use thunderbird yet still use fetchmail (what is a good setup for that?  And how does one set up spamfilters ini such a system?)
[02:14] <cafuego> wiki style notepad; indexed by beagle.
[02:14] <vincenz> cafuego: thanks, I'll take a look
[02:15] <cafuego> vincenz: You'd make fetchmail deliver to procmail,. which can pipe through spamassassin and whatever else.
[02:15] <vincenz> cafuego: do you recommend it or do you suggest sticking to plain thunderbird
[02:15] <_Rappy_> vincenz : Tomboy notes is good
[02:16] <ompaul> !away > flash`toast
[02:16] <ompaul> flash`toast, have a look at the message from the bot cheers and thanks
[02:17] <vincenz> Last question is a bit more involved.  I managed to convince my mother to use linux (ubuntu) instead of windows.  She is however a bit of a computer newb.  Anyone know a good tutorial or book on using linux (nothing too fancy, just openoffice, firefox, thunderbird.... possibly some explanation about net stuff like RSS etc cause she's wanting to know how to get custom information and "popup boxes")
[02:18] <vincenz> cafuego: why imap?
[02:18] <cafuego> vincenz: remote access
[02:18] <ompaul> vincenz, there is the "offical ubuntu book" and one by Marcel Gagne and one or two others
[02:18] <Blacklight> anyone here use ipod linux?
[02:18] <vincenz> ompaul: ah neat :)
[02:19] <cafuego> Blacklight: Got it installed, don't actually see a use for it though.
[02:19] <flash`toast> ompaul must i rename again ?
[02:19] <Blacklight> lol. its still black and white isnt it?
[02:19] <cafuego> Blacklight: No, it has colour.
[02:19] <Blacklight> oh
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> gtkpod..no
[02:21] <cafuego> ipod linux != gtkpod
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: you here?
[02:21] <LajujKej> could someone help me troubleshoot an Ndiswrapper problem.  I've installed the drivers and can see wlan0, but I can't connect to networks
[02:21] <lilbit> I chaged monitors, from a 17" CRT to a 19" LCD, and I am wondering how I rerun the video config so that I can choose from resolutions that this new monitor can handle?
[02:22] <DeeTahPa1Ltah> !fixres > lilbit
[02:22] <opexoc> i have some problem with vim ( which was never appears before ). When I want to remove some letter thanks to backslash then I can't. How can I solve this problem ?
[02:22] <cafuego> lilbit: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:22] <ompaul> flash`toast, msg to you
[02:23] <DeeTahPa1Ltah> opexoc: well,it's rather vim problem ;p
[02:23] <lilbit> cafuego, this is what I thought it was
[02:23] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, there are suggestions that I am
[02:23] <lilbit> DeeTahPa1Ltah, so what does !fixres do?
[02:23] <LajujKej> could someone help me troubleshoot an Ndiswrapper problem.  I've installed the drivers and can see wlan0, but I can't connect to networks
[02:23] <stefan> hi.. i have got a problem installing ubuntu on an asrock conroexfire mainboard. it has an intel ich7r sata-controller. ubuntu installation aborts with kernel panic... any ideas or similar experiences?
[02:23] <DeeTahPa1Ltah> makes ubotu msg you with this info ;p
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: I have heard you are not all there.. :)
[02:24] <opexoc> DeeTahPa1Ltah: yes... but maybe I execute some option in vim which I did not understand and now it cause  this problem.
[02:24] <Kwong> hi there, how could i set my default editor to vim instead of nano?
[02:24] <kristina> how does ubuntu installer install grub into mbr of a sata drive? when i tried "grub-install /dev/sda", i got an error.
[02:24] <lilbit> DeeTahPa1Ltah, thanks
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: What is the easiest way to duplicate an install?  I have the >myprog file... but <myprog  only sets the list it dosent install all that was there.
[02:25] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, source disk and dd
[02:25] <ompaul> rouzic_ausente,  english only please
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: what about hardware differences
[02:26] <ompaul> !install > Jack_Sparrow
[02:26] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, have a look at that link see if there is something there
[02:26] <Kwong> erhm, noone helps me?
[02:26] <ompaul> !patients
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patients - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <kristina> Kwong, you have to run update-alternatives to do that
[02:27] <vincenz> ompaul: regarding the "official ubuntu book"
[02:27] <vincenz> ompaul: is it also feasible for newbies or does it presuppose some skills?
[02:27] <Kwong> kristina: i thought i just had something in my .bashrc (which i've done in my uni account)
[02:27] <pontifex> Kwong: that will only set the default for you, not all users
[02:27] <Kwong> pontifex: i just need for myself
[02:27] <kristina> Kwong, i don't know about that, but update-alternatives is one way of doing it
[02:28] <stefan> no idea.... ?? im becoming desperate...
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: Not quite what I needed, I had looked there before..  I was looking more for a fresh livecd install on a machine then using the installed packages list to install my fav progs
[02:28] <ompaul> vincenz, aimed at from beginner to who knows where
[02:28] <DeeTahPanLtah> stefan: tried any other distros?
[02:28] <vincenz> ompaul: thank you
[02:29] <stefan> yep.. suse.. it stops with udev .. then froze
[02:29] <DeeTahPanLtah> any live ones?
[02:29] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, then I think a server install apt-cache and some home made script that pulls it onto that machine
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: dpkg --get-selections > myprog.txt creates a list of installed programs..
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul:  Agreed, I am thinking a script for apt-get to get them
[02:30] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, so work from there - like you know enough to be dangerous yourself you don't need me to break your ideas :)
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: where the script feeds the list to apt-get
[02:30] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, exactly :)
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: Ok, i'll put that in my list of things to work on .. number 63259
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: Nice work in channel by the way
[02:32] <ompaul> thanks
[02:32] <stefan> has somebody an asrock conroexfire in here?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> I learn alot just reading along and helping where I can.
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> stefan: No but ask your question anyhow
[02:33] <domster> I've got an xmodmap command that I'd like run every time X/gdm starts up. Where can I put it? (I don't know about ~/.xprofile because it's per-user, no?)
[02:33] <stefan> hi.. i have got a problem installing ubuntu on an asrock conroexfire mainboard. it has an intel ich7r sata-controller. ubuntu installation aborts with kernel panic... any ideas or similar experiences?
[02:34] <apokryphos> domster: make an .Xmodmap file in your ~
[02:34] <Blacklight> how in the world do i play music with the inbuilt music player? it keeps saying f:///blah blah is not an audio stream
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> stefan: Is that set as raid?
[02:34] <DeeTahPanLtah> maybe the kernel is just too old? ;p
[02:34] <kashajim> audacity requests me to locate libmp3lame.so, in order for it to export mp3 files , what shall I do ?
[02:34] <domster> apokryphos: is there a system-wide way to do it. won't the modmap only be run once I log in that way?
[02:34] <stefan> no .. its ahci...
[02:34] <ompaul> stefan,  have a look at the page, wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[02:34] <Blacklight> no help?
[02:35] <stefan> ompaul: ok..
[02:35] <ompaul> !sound > Blacklight
[02:35] <ompaul> !restricted > Blacklight
[02:35] <apokryphos> domster: maybe put in the command in /etc/profile
[02:35] <DeeTahPanLtah> Blacklight: is it mp3?
[02:35] <Blacklight> ?
[02:35] <ompaul> Blacklight, check out those links ubotu sent you
[02:35] <Blacklight> yeh
[02:35] <domster> thanks for the hint
[02:35] <ompaul> Blacklight, again, please check out those links ubotu sent you the answer is there
[02:36] <Blacklight> ohk
[02:36] <Blacklight> night all
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> stefan: http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-precision/2005-October/000781.html
[02:36] <Blacklight> thanks for the help with getting me started :D
[02:37] <DeeTahPanLtah> bet he'll be back in five
[02:37] <ompaul> !patience
[02:37] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:37] <DeeTahPanLtah> ompaul: got any ideas what my superkey in xgl is?
[02:37] <ZenJabba> evening all
[02:38] <DeeTahPanLtah> actually,it's afternoon here,but hi ;p
[02:38] <DeeTahPanLtah> 14:37:56 < ZenJabba> evening all
[02:38] <ompaul> DeeTahPanLtah, no, I don't do xgl at all it bit a box I tried it on, ask in #ubuntu-xgl as it is beta software
[02:38] <ZenJabba> simple question.. how do I get aptget to force it to download from the internet, rather than looking for the cdrom all the time
[02:38] <ZenJabba> as the server doesn't have a cdrom in it, and its 4000km/s away
[02:38] <DeeTahPanLtah> ompaul: thanks! didnt know such channel exists :)
[02:38] <longwave> DeeTahPanLtah: super key is the windows key on some keyboard configs
[02:38] <DeeTahPanLtah> longwave: most probably not on mine
[02:38] <longwave> DeeTahPanLtah: on others you may need to set it up in the keyboard options
[02:38] <stefan> Jack_Sparrow: yep.. usually it should work.. i know.. found this article before. but i have got no idea why my system doesnt work... perhaps its because of acpi...
[02:39] <DeeTahPanLtah> longwave: got kde,any hints?
[02:39] <fredrin> Hello, I have this box that my ISP has setup, it's a DD Server. The box has four IP's asigned to eth0, how do I tell i.e. apache to use one IP, while other programs use another IP? I need several programs to run on the same port
[02:39] <longwave> DeeTahPanLtah: sorry i am not a kde user :)
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> stefan: Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off
[02:39] <longwave> fredrin: for apache, you can tell it to bind to a certain IP address in the configuration file
[02:40] <ompaul> ZenJabba, please fire up a terminal Menu:Applications -> accessories -> terminal and in there type >> sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list << and put a # in front of the line with CD in it
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> stefan: SOme things to try after hitting F6 at the first screen
[02:40] <piratepenguin> how I reinstall grubto the MBR from the ubuntu 6.06 livecd?
[02:40] <apokryphos> piratepenguin: /msg ubotu grub
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[02:40] <ompaul> DeeTahPanLtah, for even more fun there is #kubuntu
[02:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:40] <fredrin> longwave: ok, thanks
[02:40] <apokryphos> y
[02:40] <apokryphos> whoops
[02:40] <DeeTahPanLtah> ompaul: gathered about this one ;)
[02:40] <piratepenguin> apokryphos, Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[02:40] <siriusnova> sup d00dz
[02:40] <siriusnova> morning
[02:40] <siriusnova> ;)
[02:40] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:40] <siriusnova> Opera 9 kicks so much butt
[02:40] <siriusnova> firefox for linux sucks compared to it
[02:41] <stefan> Jack_Sparrow: ok.. will try that.
[02:41] <fredrin> siriusnova: not if you use the right extension for FF
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> stefan: Have you tried with usb2 off
[02:41] <siriusnova> fredin - what extension?
[02:41] <fredrin> siriusnova: I can't live with out adblock
[02:41] <siriusnova> firefox for linux is so sloooooooo
[02:41] <siriusnova> *sloow
[02:41] <jfletcher[mac] > why is it?
[02:41] <DeeTahPanLtah> ompaul: ubuntu's wiki has a huge amount of articles,how long is it being developed?
[02:42] <ompaul> siriusnova, this is the ubuntu support channel
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> siriusnova: Seems much faster than IE in Windows
[02:42] <ompaul> DeeTahPanLtah, about 2.5 years
[02:42] <siriusnova> oops sry :)
[02:42] <afflux> morgen...
[02:42] <siriusnova> ill take it to offtopic
[02:42] <piratepenguin> !offtopic
[02:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:42] <stefan> Jack_Sparrow: no.. not yet.. but to test the mb i tried to install a distri called "windows xp".. and it aborted with an acpi error.. and found no hd ...
[02:42] <DeeTahPanLtah> ompaul: is there any polish version? i'd like to participate in translation
[02:42] <ompaul> DeeTahPanLtah, and don't forget to check out help.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community
[02:43] <ompaul> DeeTahPanLtah, check out launchpad.net it will get you into the translation
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> steph: because that is software raid..
[02:43] <meh> any idea what I might be doing wrong?
[02:43] <gary4gar> hi, ppl i need help
[02:43] <ompaul> !ask
[02:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> steph: even xp needs special drivers  F6 on install etc
[02:43] <MM2> My system won't boot up, (Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init) hda-errors, How I can run filecheck?
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> steph: I personally would not use software raid on a decent system like yours
[02:43] <gary4gar> i want to burn a cue/bin file in k3b
[02:44] <stefan> Jack_Sparrow: but i have no raid .. i configured it in bios as ahci... or whatever it is called...
[02:44] <DeeTahPanLtah> ompaul: i meant translating wikipedia articles
[02:44] <gary4gar> but i get error!
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> steph: What other options are there..
[02:44] <ompaul> DeeTahPanLtah, wikipedia not us :-) wiki.ubuntu-pl.org might be useful for you
[02:44] <gary4gar> anybody is listening to me???
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[02:44] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:45] <meh> in 64 bit dapper, I cannot get drivers going for my 7900GT nor can I seem to get any dvds working, even after reading instructions on ubuntu home
[02:45] <DeeTahPanLtah> alrighty,thanks
[02:45] <stefan> Jack_Sparrow: there is an compatible mode .. it says for dos and nt. and an enhanced mode with sub-options called ahci, ide and raid.
[02:45] <gary4gar> sorry if i was harsh!
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> steph: use comp mode
[02:45] <ompaul> DeeTahPanLtah,  http://www.ubuntu-pl.org
[02:45] <gary4gar> now i will try to control ur self
[02:46] <DeeTahPanLtah> ompaul: yeah,already reading our manifest's polish veresion ;p
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: please ask your question, as detailed as possiblew
[02:46] <stefan> Jack_Sparrow: i tried.. nothing. same kernel panic.
[02:46] <gary4gar>  i want to burn a cue/bin file in k3b but getting error!
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> steph: turn of usb 2.0 or down to 1.1 and try without acpi
[02:46] <stefan> btw what install disk do i have to use with an core2duo? .. 386 should work, right?
[02:46] <ompaul> DeeTahPanLtah, well there should be wiki.ubuntu-pl.org which would be the wiki in polish join the polish translation team on launchpad and get started there :)
[02:47] <stefan> ok
[02:47] <gary4gar> i can post the log here??
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: what error?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[02:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:47] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow> so i posted in ubuntuforums
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: does not help if we dont have a link to it..
[02:48] <screechingcat> can anyone tell me how to check an ISO for errors before i burn it ?
[02:48] <ZenJabba> ompaul: perfect, thanks
[02:48] <DeeTahPanLtah> ompaul: i meant-well,on real wikipedia diffirent languaged servers are somehow configured to reffer to each other-so if you see some article on english wiki,you can easily change language ;p
[02:48] <meh> has anyone else had and solved the 7900GTs supplied driver not working problem?
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Use pastebin and provide us with a link
[02:48] <gary4gar> what is pastebin??
[02:48] <longwave> screechingcat: i guess you could mount the iso on loopback and check all the files were readable that way?
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Look ath the topic of this channel or the link I just gave you
[02:49] <longwave> !tell gary4gar about pastebin
[02:49] <screechingcat> i did that and it worked fine
[02:49] <DeeTahPanLtah> !tell DeeTahPanLtah about pastebin
[02:49] <gary4gar> ok
[02:49] <screechingcat> but when i burnt the ISO onto a disc and tried to install Kubuntu from it, it threw up errors
[02:50] <meh> still really new to linux/ubuntu so this is a bit beyond me
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> screechingcat: Did you do an md5 on the cd to make sure it was a good burn
 u need to check the iso for md5 check sum
[02:50] <screechingcat> how ?
[02:50] <longwave> screechingcat: ah, you are talking about the kubuntu cd, does the cd media check from the boot menu give errors too?
[02:50] <screechingcat> yes
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> meh: where did you get the new drivers?
[02:51] <meh> first attempt was as per the ubuntu site said
[02:51] <longwave> screechingcat: well, try burning the iso again i guess, maybe use a lower speed to burn it at
[02:51] <ZenJabba> what is the init level to boot up in terminal mode, without starting X?
[02:51] <meh> through the add remove thing
[02:51] <screechingcat> how do i check the md5 or whatever it is that u guys were talking about ?
[02:51] <stefan> Jack_Sparrow: is linux an native or an legacy os???
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> meh: Are you trying to get 3d for wine or something
[02:52] <meh> mostly just to get off generic drivers and have 3d support
[02:52] <stefan> Jack_Sparrow: because the bios help says that compatible should be used with legacy os.
[02:52] <meh> possibly stuff around with some other apps that will need 3d
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> steph: then try legacy
[02:53] <longwave> ZenJabba: i think it is runlevel 3 that starts everything as normal except X
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> meh: ANd what did not work with the drivers ubuntu installed
[02:53] <ZenJabba> longwave: will give it a try
[02:54] <meh> the enable code isn't enabling, if I were to jump ahead it will as something about nv nvidia
[02:54] <DeeTahPanLtah> im wondering,if there some ultralite version of ubuntu,like debian's netinst version?
[02:54] <longwave> ZenJabba: you can look in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d to compare what services will start at different runlevels
[02:54] <DeeTahPanLtah> that all needed packets are simply downloaded by apt
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> meh: Post your xorg config to the pastebin for us
[02:54] <meh> no idea how to do that
[02:54] <longwave> DeeTahPanLtah: a basic server install of ubuntu is pretty light
[02:55] <DeeTahPanLtah> 600mb? ;P
[02:55] <Moodles> 6.06 is dapper drake isn't it?
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> meh: gksudo gedit  /etc/x11/xorg.conf   here is your xorg... now read up on pastebin
[02:55] <longwave> Moodles: yes
[02:55] <longwave> DeeTahPanLtah: oh, you mean installation media size. there is no netinst for ubuntu that i have seen..
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[02:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:56] <DeeTahPanLtah> Jack_Sparrow: worth looking this time,or its simply not possible? ;p
[02:56] <gary4gar> so i posted it there
[02:56] <gary4gar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21979
[02:56] <siriusnova> ok stupid question but when im trying to install gstreamer plugins should i install gstreamer0.10 or gstreamer0.8
[02:56] <gary4gar> now pls see it
[02:57] <BlueEagle> archaios: I know. It's horrible. :p
[02:57] <erUSUL> siriusnova: 0.10
[02:57] <ANDO> hi ppl
[02:57] <meh> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. I have done something wrong again methinks
[02:58] <Moodles> is there a way I can download the network-manager-gnome package, and all it's dependencies without having to download each one by one
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: it could not find the file, it means it could not find the file or your permissions are not allowing it
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Did you set permissions in K3b
[02:58] <gary4gar> no
[02:58] <Moodles> the other pc is wireless, and i cant get wireless working. im on a windows machine
[02:58] <gary4gar> pls tell how to do it?
[02:58] <chuckles> moodles: try synaptic? it might do it for you
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Go through the menu in K3B to enable
[02:58] <RamiKassab> hey guys I just did a server install of ubuntu on a machine and it's connected to a Dell 2005FPW monitor (20" widescreen) and the screen text is off to the left and bottom of the screen, is there any way to fix the screen text so it fits within the borders of the screen?
[02:59] <erUSUL> !apt-zip
[02:59] <ubotu> apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.13.5 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 96 kB
[02:59] <erUSUL> !apt-zip > Moodles
[02:59] <Moodles> thanks
[03:00] <RamiKassab> any ideas guys?
 can u tell where it is??
 i am on ubutnu 6.06
[03:00] <wahjava> hi channel
[03:00] <meh> pfft, will leave this for another day, back to xp :(
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: settings k3b setup or close to that
[03:00] <wahjava> how do I block ICMP packets based on packet size
 ok will check and tell
[03:01] <meh> unless someone has a suggestion of a dvd playing app that works in 64?
[03:01] <wahjava> $sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --source 192.168.1.0/27 -m connbytes --connbytes 64 -j DROP
[03:02] <wahjava> ^^ tried above but it failed with error "iptables v1.3.3: Couldn't load match `connbytes':/lib/iptables/libipt_connbytes.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:02] <RamiKassab> guys, please, any ideas on how to adjust the screen text on a server install to fit within the borders of the screen? My text is off to the left and bottom and I can't see things sometimes which makes it damn hard to configure the server
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> RamiKassab: what about the buttons on the front of the monitor
[03:02] <DeeTahPanLtah> ;')
[03:02] <RamiKassab> Jack_Sparrow: those don't do a damn thing to fix it
[03:02] <DeeTahPanLtah> Jack_Sparrow: nothing interesting found in here,are there all the ways to install ubuntu?
[03:03] <wahjava> any ideas on how do I block ?
 i tool the screen shot of dialog box now tell me which option??
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> DeeTahPanLtah: Just no net install
[03:03] <DeeTahPanLtah> ;'<
[03:03] <gary4gar> http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotconfigurekdecontrolmoduletc7.png
[03:03] <DeeTahPanLtah> pity,are you thinking on installing one?
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: No... look for it
[03:03] <gary4gar> pls just check the screen shot , <Jack_Sparrow>
[03:03] <meh> later
[03:04] <ryou> Ramikasasb> Have you tried different vga modes?
[03:04] <ryou> http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: I have not had my coffee yet...  After that ...
[03:05] <RamiKassab> Jack_Sparrow: the buttons will fix the left alignment but the text will still run off the bottom of the screen
[03:05] <gary4gar> ok i will wait no problem <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:05] <longwave> RamiKassab: you should also be able to squeeze the text vertically using those buttons so it all fits
[03:05] <longwave> RamiKassab: monitors nowadays are not set up to run in text mode by default but you should be able to get a usable display by playing with the buttons
[03:05] <RamiKassab> longwave: if I do that, won't it mess of the configure for all of the machines running on the monitor? I am using a KVM switch
[03:06] <longwave> RamiKassab: generally monitors have different sets of settings for different video modes, so when you switch the KVM the monitor will switch to a different mode for the next display - but this depends on your monitor, you will have to try it and see
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: WHile I make coffee.. go to a term and type gksudo K3b and try to burn that again.
[03:06] <DeeTahPanLtah> !grub > DeeTahPanLtah
[03:07] <gary4gar> ok <Jack_Sparrow>
[03:11] <ZenJabba> perfect!
[03:13] <davvs-S> what application can burn a iso in ubuntu?
 u can use gnome-baker or k3b
[03:13] <davvs-S> ok thanks gary4gar
[03:13] <gary4gar> np
[03:14] <gary4gar> hi qwerty!
[03:14] <Qwerty> hello :)
[03:15] <Boris^Britva> hi :)
[03:16] <Boris^Britva> Can someone give me a link on a howto setting up domains in bind, with examples?
[03:16] <WineO> Quick question:  How do I install a version of a program not marked stable? (e.g. foomatic-db and hplip to get the latest printer support)
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Pure Columbian flowing .. Yum..  Ok  so what did it do.. same problem?  New Problem?
[03:17] <gary4gar> no same  Jack_Sparrow
[03:17] <nich0s> Hey all, how do I go about compiling something from source?
[03:17] <Boris^Britva> nich0s: gcc
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: have you tried any other files?
[03:17] <nich0s> Boris^Britva, I r n00b, what is gcc and how do I use it?
[03:18] <ompaul> !compile > nich0s
[03:18] <Boris^Britva> nich0s: it's a compiles, just install it
[03:18] <gary4gar> see then i try to burn from mounted partion(fat 32) this prob occurs, when i home it works fine  Jack_Sparrow
[03:18] <vk2wrk> jack_Sparrow: checkout http://www.howtoforge.org/debian_bind9_master_slave_system
[03:18] <gary4gar> it may be of root
[03:18] <Boris^Britva> and use trough console gcc -o file.c for example
[03:18] <gary4gar> thats why?
[03:18] <nich0s> sounds good, thanks
[03:18] <gary4gar>  Jack_Sparrow what do u suggest??
[03:19] <ompaul> nich0s, read the stuff from ubotu
[03:19] <nich0s> ompaul, I am, thanks a lot :)
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: yes
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar:hOW ARE PERMISSIONS SET ON THE FAT32
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Sorry
[03:20] <gary4gar> i think they belong to root mate
[03:20] <npster> I need help for my webcam. Please can someone help ?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Typing with one hand drinking with the other..
[03:20] <Stinger_> Hi, does anyone know why the DVD images of Ubuntu wont boot?
[03:20] <gary4gar>  Jack_Sparrow, np
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[03:20] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:20] <Stinger_> i can boot other OS's, but not the Ubuntu DVD images i have downloaded and burnt
[03:21] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: I know but that doesn't help, I need help from a human
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Stinger_: SOme hardware dosent like to boot dvd's
[03:21] <hyrcan> Anyone know a way to force the usb to rescan for devices?
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: What did you do so far...
[03:22] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: I have installed easycam1 and two and they don't work with spca
[03:22] <Sakireth> Hey. I'm having Java problems. I'm trying to run frostwire, but... it says it can't find the java executables - although sun-java5-bin IS installed. error log: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1673. Anyone?
[03:22] <Stinger_> Jack_Sparrow: ohh, hmm maybe, although i have tried it in 2 different computers. do the images need to be burnt with a special program? i have tried using nero and roxio
[03:22] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: As the manual on the Wiki says for spca's that doesn't work for me
[03:22] <gary4gar>  Jack_Sparrow: r u there??
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Stinger_: I use isorecorder.... free for xp...
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> yes gary
[03:23] <Stinger_> Jack_Sparrow: cool, ill try that program, *fingers crossed* =)
[03:23] <Stinger_> Jack_Sparrow: the images are not meant to be readable under windows are they?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Stinger_: right click on the iso and burn
[03:24] <gary4gar>  Jack_Sparrow:it seems you are so busy to talk:P
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Stinger_: You should be able to see folders and files
[03:24] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper and no that doesn't work, my cam is supported by Ubuntu, But it has to be turned on from the computer
[03:24] <lilbit> I changed monitors, went from a 17" AOC CRT to a 19" LCD Samsung 920n.  Ubotu referred me to a page that explains how to fix your resolution but rerunning detect did not work, i then manuall entered the Hor and Vert paramaters in xorg.conf and just crashed
[03:24] <Stinger_> Jack_Sparrow: ohhh! then I am definitely burning it wrong, I have burnt 3 different Ubuntu images, none of them read under windows..
[03:25] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: I mean the computer sends some bits and the cam is turned on, you can't do it manually, can you help ?
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Stinger_: You can burn them under linux
[03:25] <lilbit> I am wondering, can I copy xorg.conf from a dapper machine that was hooked up to the same hardware/
[03:25] <erUSUL> lilbit: sure
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: I dont use any cams, but someone else will have an answer..
[03:25] <Sakireth> Hey. I'm having Java problems. I'm trying to run frostwire, but... it says it can't find the java executables - although sun-java5-bin IS installed. error log: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1673. Anyone?
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: yes getting busy and barely getting my first cup od coffee down me
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> lilbit: yes
[03:26] <Stinger_> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for your help, you are a really great member of the Ubuntu community =)
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Junior member
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> but thanks
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> lilbit: When you get it fixed, make a backup of your xorg for future ref
[03:28] <lilbit> erUSUL, Jack_Sparrow, thank you
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:28] <erUSUL> Sakireth: do you configured the sun java as default java? is somthing along the ways of 'sudo update-alternatives --java'
[03:28] <erUSUL> lilbit: no problem
[03:28] <kejinlu> what are you talking here?
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> English
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Other languages available
[03:30] <kejinlu> 
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Chineese
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !ch
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <erUSUL> korean?
[03:31] <npster> does someone has a ekiga account here. I want to try something
[03:31] <erUSUL> !kr
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <npster> bye
[03:31] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow: r u free now??
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> For a bit...
[03:31] <kejinlu> chinese?
[03:32] <gary4gar> so pls tell
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> kejinlu: What language do you want?
[03:32] <Sakireth> YAY! workls
[03:32] <Sakireth> thanks
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[03:32] <kejinlu> I use chinese
[03:33] <gary4gar> how to change permissions??
[03:33] <WineO> Quick question:  How do I install a version of a program not marked stable? (e.g. foomatic-db and hplip to get the latest printer support)
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: it looks like a permissions thing.. if you can burn from ext3 Ubuntu drive and not from fat32 drive
 so what the solution for it??
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> WineO: where did you find the program you want to install?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: how are permissions set on your fat32?
[03:34] <gary4gar> root
[03:35] <WineO> Jack_Sparrow: on hplip.sourceforge.net
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: HOw and why ?
[03:35] <dfd> Hello
[03:35] <kejinlu> I have a question
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> WineO: They tell you to use that program and not how to get or install it.. got a link to it.
[03:36] <dfd> I want to install xgl+compiz.. I saw that they are available on the repository but every tutorial I read on the internet asks me to add new repositories.. why? Can I install from ubuntu official repositories or they have problems?
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[03:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:36] <WineO> Here's the download page: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=149981&package_id=165777
[03:36] <gary4gar> <Jack_Sparrow: it was a wild gues
[03:36] <kejinlu> when I press the Hibernate  button,it just restart,why?
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> dfd: multiverse and universe are already there, just rem'd out
[03:37] <WineO> Jack_Sparrow: hplip download: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=149981&package_id=165777
[03:37] <gary4gar> <Jack_Sparrow: i will come some other time!:)
[03:37] <dfd> Jack_Sparrow, okay.. but a lot of tutorial says to add new ones.. that aren't ubuntu official repositories.. I will ignore them then.. thanks
[03:38] <BeepAU> hey everyone, how do i install a *.tar.gz file?
[03:38] <mr_smeegal> if i upgrade kernel does ndiswrapper need to be reinstalled ?
[03:38] <mr_smeegal> or just unloaded
[03:38] <mr_smeegal> and reloaded
[03:38] <hoxzer> DeepAU: tar.gz is just a container, usually it has source files in it
[03:38] <dfd> BeepAU, tar.gz files are archives. Extract the archive with fileroller (or from shell tar xzvf filename.tar.gz)
[03:38] <POVaddct> BeepAU: why do you want to do that? isn't the program available as a ubuntu package?
[03:38] <josh__> whats up people... i need to map my wife's windows box to my linux box so she can get her backups off it... how do i do that
[03:39] <WineO> josh__: samba
[03:39] <mr_smeegal> anyone :)
[03:39] <kejinlu> ye,samba
[03:39] <Sakireth> Guys.. frostwire detects a firewall. also, speeds are fairly slow. How to set up my pc to do port forwarding and then forward the correct ports, and get rid of any other firewalls left?
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dfd: What repos do they want you to add
[03:39] <BeepAU> POVaddct -- it's called ktagebuch-0.74.tar.gz and i couldn't find one on the website.
[03:40] <kejinlu> why so many people?
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[03:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:40] <dfd> Jack_Sparrow, 1) deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main 2) deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main 3) deb-src http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> kejinlu: Always this busy.. yes
[03:40] <ompaul> kejinlu, it is so unpopular :)
[03:40] <Wolfrider_DK> I have a problem installing ubuntu on my laptop from CD (ver. 6.06) It freezes in install procedure. Different places depending on choices. Anyone who can help me please?
[03:40] <POVaddct> BeepAU: you don't install programs from their website. you search the package manager first: apt-cache search ktagebuch
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> dfd: those all say dapper main..
[03:41] <WineO> Jack_Sparrow: can firestarter read the results of an iptables-save command?
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> WineO: yes
[03:41] <mr_smeegal>  if i upgrade kernel does ndiswrapper need to be reinstalled ?
[03:41] <POVaddct> BeepAU: do you have the usual repositories enabled? (universe)
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> WineO: It will show you the current setup
[03:41] <kejinlu> I format my Harddisk completely,and install my pretty ubuntu.
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> WineO: guarddog is also good
[03:41] <WineO> Jack_Sparrow: good, then I can copy my current settings to a new machine!
[03:42] <Moodles> im a bit confused about "apt-zip", on the target machine, do I use "dselect" to select the package I want. then run apt-zip-list to get the packages needed, for the internet machine use to download?
[03:42] <BeepAU> POVaddct -- i don't know how to do that. i'm new to linux.
[03:42] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: I meant my router's firewall.
[03:43] <POVaddct> BeepAU: does   apt-cache search ktagebuch   produce any output?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> BeepAU: Try synaptic... for adding and removing programs/packages
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: one sec..
[03:43] <dfd> Jack_Sparrow, with not official I meant that it weren't a ubuntu.org repository.. I will install from universe then
[03:43] <hyrcan> is there any way to 'kick' the usb system with out rebooting?
[03:43] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: k
[03:43] <WineO> All here's a weird one: I installed dapper to a new box (amd x2 3800 with SATA hard drive). After reboot I ran update to update everything.  Next reboot failed since boot flag had been turned off in my boot partition.  Is this a known problem or expected behaviour?
[03:43] <BeepAU> POVaddct -- nothing.
[03:44] <Sp4rKy> hi
[03:44] <POVaddct> BeepAU: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the comment chars (#) from the lines with "universe" in it
[03:44] <mr_smeegal> vmware requires the source for my existing kernel if i download just the source will it do anything to kernel?
[03:44] <POVaddct> BeepAU: then do: apt-get update
[03:44] <Wolfrider_DK> Can anyone please help me with installation freeze of ubuntu when trying to install on my laptop?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: Having brain fart... you want to copy settings from your router to the ubuntu firewall.. sorry, if I seem confused.. I am.
[03:45] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: ... ok
[03:45] <Sp4rKy> please french mirror of repositories seems work bad, some packages can't be downloaded. how can i advertize some people ?
[03:45] <jhasse> Does someone know how i can change the language of gcc from German to English??
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Wolfrider_DK:  Use F6 at the first menu.. try a few options ...Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off
[03:46] <Wolfrider_DK> Jack_Sparrow: Tried that, but will not work. I can run Ubuntu as "live" from Cd without problems, but it freezes only in installation...
[03:47] <mr_smeegal> where can i hunt down new kernel
[03:47] <josh__> yeah i have samba installed
[03:47] <mr_smeegal> or source for my exisiting kernel on a default install?
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Wolfrider_DK: HAve you tried turning off usb 2 or down to 1.1
[03:47] <josh__> the windows box see the computer
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Wolfrider_DK: You tried all of those command line options and none did anything?
[03:48] <josh__> it just keeps asking for the user/pass
[03:48] <josh__> it wont actually connect to it
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Wolfrider_DK: What type of lappy, what type of drives any usb things or pcmcia cards installed?
[03:48] <BeepAU> POVaddct -- done
[03:49] <Wolfrider_DK> Jack_Sparrow, It's a noname Lappy, and has right now nothing connectet to either PCMCIA or USB, but I need the USB later for my memory stick.
[03:49] <POVaddct> BeepAU: try   apt-cache search ktagebuch   again
[03:49] <RamiKassab> guys my text is still running off the bottom of the screen on my monitor for some reason, I've tried setting the scaling options, auto adjusting, everything on the monitor's control panels but nothing is working... is there a way to fix this in ubuntu itself? I am running a server install
[03:49] <WineO> All here's a weird one: I installed dapper to a new box (amd x2 3800 with SATA hard drive). After reboot I ran update to update everything.  Next reboot failed since boot flag had been turned off in my boot partition.  Is this a known problem or expected behaviour?
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Wolfrider_DK: Did you try those options one by one or all at once.. and set usb to 1.1 for now or off to id this problem on your no name hardware
[03:50] <dfd> BeepAU, the homepage of the project makes you download the deb package..
[03:50] <dfd> but I don't know if it works since it says it's for debian..
[03:51] <BeepAU> dfd -- it said i needed kdeblibs4 or something
[03:51] <dfd> BeepAU, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9973
[03:51] <Wolfrider_DK> Jack_Sparrow, Have triede almost every thing(boot option), in help file (F1 on boot). But not the USB thing, will try that. Otherwise could it be something to do with using graphic installer instead of alternate-ubuntu cd?
[03:52] <dfd> BeepAU, there is a link for an ubuntu deb package..
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Wolfrider_DK: Are there any specs on your hardware?
[03:52] <dfd> BeepAU, try downloading and installing it.. if you are sure the package isn't on the repositories
[03:53] <Wolfrider_DK> Jack_Sparrow, Sure, what do you need to know?
[03:53] <BeepAU> dfd -- Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: kdelibs4c2 :(
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> video card, processor, how much ram you have etc
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> BeepAU: what are you trying to install?
[03:53] <BeepAU> Jack_Sparrow -- diary program
[03:54] <dfd> BeepAU, you have to find the kdelibs4c2 deb package then.. that seems like a kde 4 package.. maybe it is only on the unstable repositories e.g. edgy eft ubuntu
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> BeepAU: Name of program?
[03:54] <BeepAU> Jack_Sparrow -- KTagebuch
[03:55] <Wolfrider_DK> Jack_Sparrow, Onboard S3 videocard, 256 mb ram, AMD athlon 1800+
[03:55] <guerra> hail, how do i set the classpath variable? everytime i create it, after i relog its not there anymore
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> BeepAU: Not in repos...
[03:55] <BeepAU> Jack_Sparrow -- true
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> BeepAU: If you must have it you must also install the dependencies, and since you are trying to run ked program in gnome there may be quite a few
[03:56] <BeepAU> Jack_Sparrow -- maybe i'll just find something else. thanks, though.
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> BeepAU: Not impossible...
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> BeepAU: do you have a link to the prog
[03:57] <BeepAU> Jack_Sparrow -- http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9973
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Wolfrider_DK: I would think no apci and nodma would do it..
[03:57] <PingunZ> Hey, how can I uninstall all programs I dont need ?
[03:58] <dfd> PingunZ -- tried using synaptic?
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> PingunZ: use synaptic and uncheck the ones you want to remove.. except office...
[03:58] <Wolfrider_DK> Jack_Sparrow, I'll try Captain. Thanx and have a nice day :-)
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:58] <PingunZ> Jack_Sparrow: why not office ?
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> PingunZ: It does NOT uninstall well.
[03:58] <PingunZ> oh
[03:58] <phaedrus44> can anyone here give me some hints on the gimp.?
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> PingunZ: Too much like a MS product, way too many hooks into the system
[03:59] <ghost_> how can I change the default sound device in Gnome? When I use Administration -> Sound, Gnome doesn't save what card I select
[03:59] <klyick> Hello!
[03:59] <PingunZ> Jack_Sparrow: can't I do like sudo aptitude uninstall openoffice-base --purge ?
[03:59] <dfd> phaedrus44 -- there is also the #gimp channel, it is more specific
[03:59] <klyick> I've got a issue with IMAP on ubuntu
[03:59] <sekhar> pleasee help
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> PingunZ: YEs, but I doubt it will work without trashing everything.. let me know if you succeed
[04:00] <PingunZ> ok ;)
[04:00] <phaedrus44> thanks dfd
[04:00] <PingunZ> Ubuntu really needs somekind of add/remove like MS..
[04:00] <sekhar> jack_Sparrow can you help me
[04:00] <klyick> the issue is this, when I try to access IMAP, I get
[04:00] <klyick> badlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1]  CRAM-MD5 [SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database] 
[04:00] <klyick> can anyone help?
[04:01] <dfd> sekhar -- you still haven't asked anything
[04:01] <shawnr_> I Just formatted my backup drive to ext3.. now how can i check it to make sure everything went ok before i put my important data on it
[04:01] <fallingdutch> PingunZ, synaptic is your friend!
[04:01] <sekhar> dfd i upgraded ubuntu breezy to dapper yesterday
[04:01] <sekhar> but now there is no open office
[04:02] <bastiq> How do i make a startup script for a file that has no starter except in it's home folder
[04:02] <formationgbatout> salut
[04:02] <formationgbatout> bonjour
[04:02] <WineO> All here's a weird one: I installed dapper to a new box (amd x2 3800 with SATA hard drive). After reboot I ran update to update everything.  Next reboot failed since boot flag had been turned off in my boot partition.  Is this a known problem or expected behaviour?
[04:02] <RamiKassab> guys my text is still running off the bottom of the screen on my monitor for some reason, I've tried setting the scaling options, auto adjusting, everything on the monitor's control panels but nothing is working... is there a way to fix this in ubuntu itself? I am running a server install
[04:02] <klyick> badlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1]  CRAM-MD5 [SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database] 
[04:02] <ericrw> why is the device mapper being greedy and locking up my scsi devices ? ;-)
[04:03] <klyick> what does this mean?
[04:03] <dfd> sekhar -- what do you mean? You had it but now it isn't there anymore?
[04:03] <dfd> sekhar -- Have you tried reinstalling it?
[04:03] <sekhar> dfd exactly
[04:03] <RamiKassab> I've asked for help with this issue like 5 times and have just been ignored... is there no way to fix it?
[04:03] <sekhar> how to reinstall open office
[04:04] <WineO> RamiKassab: I had a similar prob but was able to adjust my monitor to compensate.
[04:04] <dfd> sekhar -- exec gksu synaptic
[04:04] <nickspoon> I have a Belkin bluetooth adaptor and a Sony Clie PDA. I start up the Bluetooth File Sharing app and attempt to transfer from Clie->PC. The Clie, however, says that it is 'Unable to connect'.
[04:04] <RamiKassab> WineO: I'm not able to do that, I've tried everything with the minitor adjustments
[04:04] <dfd> sekhar -- then select openoffice from the list and click on apply
[04:04] <sekhar> lemme check
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> JKing: we are listening
[04:05] <WineO> RamiKassab: can you try a different monitor (just to see if the monitor is a problem)
[04:05] <JKing> Jack_Sparrow: All right. :)
[04:06] <shawnr_> Can someone help me with using fsck.ext3 on my backup drive!?
[04:06] <shawnr_> anyone ??
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> RamiKassab: is there an xorg.conf in a server install..  I always thought Dell and MS were sleeping together ..
[04:06] <sekhar> dfd should i search for open office
[04:07] <dfd> sekhar -- yes, openoffice. It is in the list
[04:07] <shawnr_> How can I fix this!?  -  Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda
[04:07] <shawnr_> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[04:07] <RamiKassab> Jack_Sparrow: not sure
[04:07] <dfd> sekhar -- check it and then click on apply to installing it and all its dependency packages
[04:07] <RamiKassab> WineO: I don't have an extra one on hand :(
[04:07] <klyick> dfd:hey, could ya help me for a sec?
[04:07] <RamiKassab> WineO: is there no res setting even for just a terminal?
[04:07] <WineO> Jack_Sparrow: This might not be X.  I had the same problem during the first part of my install.  What's the boot parm to change the VGA resolution?
[04:07] <dfd> klyick -- if I don't know the question I can't
[04:08] <RamiKassab> I'm almost of the point of just installing ssh and doing the rest of the config via that
[04:08] <JKing> I recently acquired some hardware that allows me to use use Ubuntu effectively (yaye!), but I've yet to find a messaging client I find sufficient.  I'm looking for something that is either Jabber-capable or Jabber-centric, with the roster and conversations in the same window, much like your typical IRC client.
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> RamiKassab: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:08] <klyick> dfd: right, well, I'm trying to use IMAP
[04:08] <klyick> dfd: I get this error message
[04:08] <sekhar> dfd under open office there are a lot of files
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off
[04:08] <JKing> So, I was wondering if more knowledgable minds had any ideas.
[04:08] <WineO> JKing: Gaim should do it
[04:08] <klyick> dfd:badlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1]  CRAM-MD5 [SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database] 
[04:09] <WineO> RamiKassab: try Jack_Sparrow's boot options
[04:09] <dfd> sekhar -- just select "openoffice", it will automatically select all the main components
[04:09] <RamiKassab> Jack_Sparrow: nope not yet
[04:09] <disasm> JKing: well, my personal favorite is irssi for IRC, bitlbee gateway for others, and occasionally naim for AIM
[04:09] <whazilla> when apt-get says >> subproces paste was killed by signal (broken pipe)
[04:09] <RamiKassab> Jack_Sparrow: WineO ok I will try that really quickly
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Not ALL of them
[04:09] <JKing> WineO: Yes?  Perhaps I didn't look at the settings closely enough...
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:09] <whazilla> what does that mean ?
[04:09] <shawnr_> If no one knows, how to help me... could you guys at least say you don't know, so i can go to another chan that can and stop waiting for a response?
[04:09] <whazilla> when apt-get says >> subproces paste was killed by signal (broken pipe)
[04:09] <RamiKassab> Jack_Sparrow and WineO: thanks for the help guys
[04:09] <whazilla> what does that mean ?
[04:09] <disasm> shawnr_: question? i just got here
[04:10] <shawnr_> How can I fix this!?  -  Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda
[04:10] <shawnr_> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnr_: 843 people telling you they dont know is not productive
[04:10] <dfd> klyick -- sorry I haven't any experience with IMAP, I don't know how to help you.. try joining a channel related to the software you are using
[04:10] <longwave> shawnr_: what are you trying to do? /dev/sda is an entire disk device, not a partition, which is where you would normally keep a filesystem
[04:10] <klyick> dfd: ok thanks
[04:10] <disasm> shawnr_: you sure it's not /dev/sda1
[04:10] <shawnr_> longwave, I got the same message on /dev/sda1
[04:11] <shawnr_> fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1
[04:11] <disasm> shawnr_: what were you doing when it happened
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> good eye longwave
[04:11] <longwave> shawnr_: any other messages in "dmesg" output about /dev/sda?
[04:11] <RamiKassab> Jack_Sparrow: damn I can't run that because it's just a server install
[04:11] <shawnr_> fsck.ext3 /dev/sda1
[04:11] <RamiKassab> xserver isn't even installed
[04:11] <disasm> shawnr_: is it an ext3 filesystem?
[04:11] <longwave> shawnr_: also, what is the output if any of "fdisk -l /dev/sda"
[04:11] <shawnr_> disasm, yea i formatted my usb drive to ext3 this morning
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> RamiKassab: try vesa or other options
[04:12] <meheren> what is the command to compile c source code?
[04:12] <disasm> shawnr_: is the partition type 83?
[04:12] <phreekbird> mornin ... anyone available to help me with a LAMP install?
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnr_: How
[04:12] <disasm> meheren: gcc
[04:12] <meheren> meheren@7500:~$ gcc
[04:12] <meheren> bash: gcc: command not found
[04:12] <shawnr_> disasm, i ran mkfs.ext3
[04:12] <longwave> meheren: "gcc"; you probably want the "build-essential" package installed as it provides all the components you need
[04:12] <disasm> meheren: apt-get install build-essential
[04:12] <shawnr_> longwave, it has no label
[04:12] <meheren> ok thx
[04:12] <sekhar> dfd thanx
[04:13] <dfd> sekhar -- no problem, does it work?
[04:13] <longwave> shawnr_: never mind "no label", what partitions does fdisk show, and how big are they?
[04:13] <disasm> shawnr_: did you fdisk to change partition type before running mkfs?
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnr_: Have you looked at the drive with gparted?
[04:13] <sekhar> think so
[04:13] <sekhar> dfd one more doubt
[04:13] <meheren> disasm, i personnally prefer aptitude... but thx
[04:13] <klyick> Anyone know anything about Cyrus?
[04:13] <longwave> phreekbird: sure, what do you need help with exactly?
[04:13] <longwave> !lamp
[04:13] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:13] <JKing> meheren: Most software use configure scripts and make.  You should read any included README or INSTALL files; they usually have sufficient instructions.
[04:13] <disasm> meheren: yeah, i just never got around to playing with aptitude yet, been using apt since debian potato
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> dfd: looking at your diary program.. 88 files to load up
[04:14] <phreekbird> following the directions from  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  about installing mysql but i cant do the mysqladmin root password, tells me no mysql running on host ... anyone able to help
[04:14] <whazilla> when apt-get says >> subproces paste was killed by signal (broken pipe)  ... what does this mean ?
[04:14] <shawnr_> disasm, no you didn't tell me that last night lol
[04:14] <meheren> JKing, I err wrote the software...
[04:14] <sekhar> dfd when i log in as root in the dapper there is no synaptic and update manager also but breezy it was there
[04:14] <valehru> is there a tool to change one's language input i.e. from english to chinese?
[04:14] <shawnr_> longwave, i ran that command in the terminal and nothing was returned
[04:14] <ericrw> shawnr_, fdisk -l /dev/sda
[04:14] <disasm> shawnr_: lol ;-) I was tired, drinking beer and trying to get kerberos done ;-) sorry
[04:14] <dfd> Jack_Sparrow -- mine? That program wasn't mine :-)
[04:14] <madmax> hello there... anyone know how to configure timidity++? i downloaded the ubuntu package from synaptic (including freepats) and i get no sound
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry
[04:15] <pip> how is Drake Dapper ?
[04:15] <shawnr_> /dev/sda1               1       24792   199141708+  83  Linux
[04:15] <disasm> pip: it's great, I love it ;-)
[04:15] <shawnr_> wait
[04:15] <disasm> shawnr_: that looks right
[04:15] <ericrw> shawnr: what about the "Disk" line?
[04:15] <shawnr_> disasm, to run fsck does it need to be mounted ?
[04:15] <sivanicon> Does SSH use udp or tcp or both?
[04:15] <disasm> shawnr_: no
[04:15] <shawnr_> Disk /dev/sda: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes
[04:15] <longwave> phreekbird: what does "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" say?
[04:16] <dfd> sekhar -- you do login as root? Better using sudo.. but anyway.. where do you don't see synaptic and update manager? From the gnome menus?
[04:16] <shawnr_> ericrw, Disk /dev/sda: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes
[04:16] <JKing> meheren: Oh.  Right. :)
[04:17] <JKing> Just trying to be helpful. :)
[04:17] <meheren> JKing, hehe would be nice to have a readme...
[04:17] <pip> disasm, Compared with Breezy
[04:17] <weswh-> i have a Dell GX150 that I am running...aside from 1280x1024 resolution having some image tearing and stuff (probably just bad graphics card)...I can't get my NIC to work. No lights are coming on the back of it or anything when plugged in. Could this just be a driver/configuration issue, or does it sound like the card itself might be bad?
[04:17] <JKing> I'll bet.
[04:17] <madmax> sivanicon: ssh uses tcp
[04:17] <shawnr_> disasm, ericrw, how can i test this drive to make sure its safe to backup my system on it ?
[04:17] <longwave> sivanicon: ssh runs over tcp, unless you tunnel it somehow over udp
[04:17] <disasm> pip: yeah, things work a lot better than they did with breezy for me at least
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> weswh-: what chipset on that nic
[04:17] <weswh-> I am not even sure how to look to see if the computer recognizes there is an ethernet card installed at all.
[04:17] <disasm> shawnr_: ultimatebootcd.com, run a vendor hard disk test on it
[04:18] <madmax> anyone got timidity ubuntu package to run ?
[04:18] <longwave> weswh-: try "lspci" and see if an Ethernet controller is mentioned
[04:18] <shawnr_> disasm, its an external
[04:18] <weswh-> Jack - from google, the best I can tell is that it might be a 3COM 3C920 - I am still looking into that
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> weswh-: How about a manual or looking at dell online
[04:18] <shawnr_> disasm, and i have no cd's
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> weswh-: lspci from terminal
[04:18] <disasm> shawnr_: i keep forgetting they sell externals... let me think a sec
[04:18] <weswh-> longwave, thanks. if I am booted off of the live cd - do I have access to a root level account?
[04:18] <shawnr_> disasm, what i really mean is how can i check the fs
[04:18] <weswh-> or can I do lspci without that?
[04:19] <pip> disasm, so great . I have received CDs of installation from Holland,but now I am using RedHat AE
[04:19] <Mastastealth> does anyone have a zd1211b based wireless adaptor running with network manager?
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> weswh-: just tpe it
[04:19] <rambo3> haha nice one edgy , spell check for x-chat
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !wireless
[04:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:19] <longwave> weswh-: lspci should show you basic info without root, but you can use "sudo lspci" then enter your user password to run commands as root
[04:19] <ericrw> shawnr_, use 'smartctl', 'badblocks', and bonnie++
[04:20] <weswh-> yep, it shows me a 3com 3c905c
[04:20] <xiam> pip: hi :)
[04:20] <disasm> shawnr_: there is a command badblocks
[04:20] <shawnr_> ericrw, i don't have smartctl but i have badblocks
[04:20] <ericrw> shawnr_, smartctl will let you access the disk's internal smart capabilities (which do self-tests), badblocks to scan for bad blocks... and bonnie as as stress-test
[04:20] <Mastastealth> Jack: I've read through the documentation. I got the key working, but network manager doesn't seem to pick it up
[04:20] <weswh-> longwave - off of the livecd boot i never entered a pasword anywhere.
[04:20] <pip> xiam, hi
[04:20] <Mastastealth> nor auto config my WPA
[04:20] <pip> xiam, glad to meet you
[04:20] <longwave> weswh-: no, on the live cd there is no password needed, but when you have installed you will have a password set for your account
[04:20] <disasm> shawnr_: have to be root to use it, so sudo badblocks, not sure of the syntax
[04:20] <ericrw> shawnr_, 'apt-get install smartctl'.. although it might not work on sata disks.
[04:21] <ericrw> I've used it on pata and scsi disks
[04:21] <longwave> weswh-: that 3com card is supported by linux so you should be ok to use it
[04:21] <weswh-> but, i got the info regardless. so it sees it there, i would think the driver would be loaded at boot - how can i attempt to do it manually? the switch doesn't recognize that anything is connected to it.
[04:21] <shawnr_> ericrw, just do: sudo badblocks /dev/sda  ?  or sda1
[04:21] <graveson> is there a cli torrent client
[04:21] <disasm> pip: so do you have a specific question about dapper, or just asking?
[04:21] <nickspoon> anyone have any idea what "Aug 29 15:08:57 localhost hcid[10779] : Can't get system message bus name: Connection ":1.9" is not allowed to own the service "org.bluez" due to security policies in the configuration file" means?
[04:21] <xiam> pip: so you don't remember me :\, ok, then glad to meet you again :P
[04:22] <longwave> graveson: the mainline bittorrent client runs in the console, there is also "rtorrent"
[04:22] <hkBst> do ubuntu livecd's run a kernel logger?
[04:22] <ericrw> shawnr_:  badblocks -s /dev/sda
[04:22] <disasm> nickspoon: hmmm, looks like you're trying to get bluetooth working, right?
[04:22] <nickspoon> disasm: correct.
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> longwave:  I would think he should try to take it down then back up but I am not the cli guy..
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> longwave: He as in shawnr_
[04:22] <pip> disasm, I am going to use 6.06 in one month.Thank you
[04:22] <ericrw> shawnr_: if the disk is new, you can also do a destructive test.. provide -w
[04:23] <lizz> hello well
[04:23] <disasm> nickspoon: been a while... can you paste your config on a pastebin?
[04:23] <lizz> help me
[04:23] <lizz> now
[04:23] <disasm> lizz: what seems to be the problem ;-)
[04:23] <lizz> my internal modem is a HCF
[04:23] <nickspoon> disasm: which one?
[04:23] <shawnr_> ericrw, ok its running
[04:24] <longwave> weswh-: try "sudo modprobe 3c509", that may load the driver if it is not already there
[04:24] <pip> xiam, we can talk something else @ #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:24] <ericrw> anyone here know why I keep getting /dev/disk/ entries even after removing 65-persistent-disk.rules from udev?
[04:24] <weswh-> longwave - my bad, i had cable problems.
[04:24] <xiam> pip: I've just seen you in another channel and I came here say hi!, don't worry, see you later :P
[04:24] <disasm> nickspoon: what ones are there? Haven't played with it since I switched to verizon and lost my OBEX support
[04:24] <longwave> weswh-: ah, ok :)
[04:24] <weswh-> now i do have lights etc. now it seems like i just need to do a 'dhcp renew' or something
[04:24] <disasm> lizz: what chipset?
[04:24] <weswh-> and i should be gold
[04:24] <longwave> weswh-: "sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0" will renew the IP address for eth0
[04:24] <nickspoon> disasm: only one I've changed is /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf
[04:25] <Dysk> Anyone know if there's a later version of kismet available than the one that installs default w/dapper?
[04:25] <disasm> nickspoon: ok, that one
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> longwave: Thanks.. that is the one I could not remember.. I saved it for future use.. :)
[04:25] <lizz> disasm, conexant
[04:26] <nickspoon> disasm: http://rafb.net/paste/results/g0LPRR88.html
[04:26] <disasm> lizz: hmmm... is that the one that isn't free for the driver... can't remember
[04:26] <chr> hi there...i have another computer at home running windows xp and the two pcs are connected with crossover cable...is it easy to share files with that windows pc by using ubuntu...
[04:26] <nickspoon> chr: yes.
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> disasm: yes, winmodem heds "Fee" drivers to get over 14.4
[04:27] <lizz> disasm, not work with linux?
[04:27] <Dysk> chr, Have a look at system->administration->Shared folders
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba > chr:
[04:27] <disasm> lizz: i know the project I do with a couple people in the area collecting old systems, installing ubuntu and giving the systems away, we throw away any conexants, the lucents I think we have gotten to work though
[04:27] <shawnr_> Any chance I can get the Xubuntu alternate install cd to install on a system with 16 megs of ram ;p  ?
[04:27] <weswh-> sweet, that worked. kind of strange - my screen blacked out for about 3 seconds in the middle of the renewal. but came back up and i'm online :P
[04:28] <Dysk> shawnr_, Probably not
[04:28] <lizz> disasm, http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/downloads-installer.php
[04:28] <disasm> lizz: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36091
[04:28] <shawnr_> Dysk, i got debian sarge to install and run on it ;p
[04:28] <synod> hey guys.. how secure ubuntu really is ?
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Time for me to get some work done, good luck all...
[04:28] <disasm> oh... hcf, not hsf, i hate those conexants...
[04:29] <PingunZ> synod: try google, I never had a virus with ubuntu
[04:29] <nickspoon> disasm: the first device, a mobile phone, works for file transfer. the second device, a Sony Clie TG50 (PDA) doesn't.
[04:29] <disasm> nickspoon: that looks good...
[04:30] <disasm> nickspoon: have you got the second one paired?
[04:30] <synod> what about general security.. cuz I know slackware is built like 'security in mind'
[04:30] <nickspoon> disasm: yes.
[04:30] <synod> im currious..
[04:34] <disasm> synod: ubuntu has security repos where packages with found holes get patched and released outside of the normal release schedule, I'm not sure if that's what you're asking
[04:34] <synod> im not sure what im asking myself.. ;)
[04:35] <disasm> synod: are you looking at a server setup or desktop?
[04:35] <synod> desktop
[04:35] <Oni-Dracula> beep.
[04:36] <ado> lo
[04:36] <ShoeUnited> !repos
[04:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:36] <ShoeUnited> !easysource
[04:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:36] <ado> hey guys try this
[04:36] <ado> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=microsoft&meta=
[04:36] <disasm> synod: well, unless you're comfortable with iptables, I'd recommend one of those user firewall handholders I've never used, it's probably not worth compiling your kernel with the selinux sources for a desktop, make sure all ports are blocked, no processes running, and when synaptic tells you there are packages to download, download them.
[04:36] <shawnr_> synod, i think the real questions is... what are you doing on your computer that you need to be so worried about security ;p
[04:37] <ado> check the results in firefox compaired to IE
[04:37] <disasm> shawnr_: lol ;-)
[04:37] <ado> Google are giving different results depending on the browser you are using
[04:38] <Oni-Dracula> you could just have firefox report no browser version :)
[04:38] <disasm> ado: no ie to test your results ;-)
[04:38] <rambo3> ado "ubuntu-offtopic
[04:38] <shawnr_> ado, what was the point of that ?
[04:38] <Juhaz> exactly the same results on the first page. not that I'm going to browse all 910 million of them
[04:38] <ShoeUnited> Firefox gets paid by google.
[04:39] <synod> shawnr_: well.. is there anything to be not secure-sure about ?
[04:39] <ado> yes it is on topic I've just installed ubuntu and now I'm getting less results from google because I 'm not using IE
[04:39] <helikoptik> hello!
[04:39] <longwave> ado are you sure of this? give us an example url please
[04:39] <Oni-Dracula> I have a feeling, however, there is other data being sent to google when you do searches...such as those found in COOKIES!
[04:39] <shawnr_> synod, what are you using your computer for? are you the only user
[04:39] <ado> look at the first link
[04:39] <nickspoon> mm, cookies.
[04:39] <helikoptik> anyone has an example for loading the flash plugin?
[04:39] <fijam> hello
[04:39] <fijam> ado: how is it?
[04:39] <longwave> ado: results are the same for me in ie and firefox
[04:40] <fijam> ado: they must be
[04:40] <longwave> ado: only difference is an extra advert for vmware in IE that i am not seeing in firefox
[04:40] <ado> do you get the sub links index ??? on the first results returned
[04:40] <shawnr_> ado, do any of us ever really go through all of googles 3 million results
[04:40] <longwave> what, the "developer tools/for partners/worldwide/at home" bit? yes
[04:40] <synod> perfect config would be with vmware( so that I can run macromedia flash) and to feel good about allround security of my box
[04:40] <shawnr_> ado, so what if we get a little less lol
[04:40] <ado> Microsoft CorporationThe entry page to Microsoft's Web site. Find software, solutions, answers, support, and Microsoft news.
[04:41] <ado> www.microsoft.com/ - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
[04:41] <ado> Developer Tools - http://msdn.microsoft.com/
[04:41] <ado> For Partners - http://partner.microsoft.com/
[04:41] <ado> Worldwide - http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=4412891
[04:41] <ado> At Home - http://www.microsoft.com/athome/
[04:41] <ado> More results from www.microsoft.com 
[04:41] <ado> thats the resuts in IE
[04:41] <shawnr_> that wasn't really nice
[04:41] <ado> fire fox results for first link "Microsoft Corporation"
[04:41] <ado> Sorry
[04:41] <shawnr_> ado, take this  to off topic
[04:41] <longwave> ado: this may be a result of the "google dance" where some google servers are updated while others are yet to catch up
[04:41] <longwave> ado: but really this is not an ubuntu problem, complain to google if you think your search results are tainted
[04:42] <shawnr_> ado, actually i don't know if your aware... but google is all about open source
[04:42] <shawnr_> ado, all their computer runs linux
[04:42] <shawnr_> ado, i actually think i recently read a story that they switched to ubuntu
[04:42] <ado> I know thats why I'm annoyed I though that they would show the same results for everyone
[04:43] <shawnr_> i think your taking this too hard
[04:43] <pontifex> and in the wrong place
[04:43] <longwave> ado: you don't have google's Personalized Search enabled? that shows different results for different people
[04:43] <nickspoon> Anyone here happen to be familiar with bluetooth?
[04:43] <ado> om i'll drop it
[04:43] <ado> longwave nope
[04:44] <fijam> I have a question, why TOR users are banned from #ubuntu?
[04:44] <disasm> fijam: what are TOR users?
[04:44] <ado> OK got to go back to work later and sorry for ranting
[04:44] <fijam> tor onion routing
[04:44] <fijam> ask google :)
[04:45] <fijam> freenode is one of the few irc servers that support it
[04:45] <ompaul> fijam, due to abuse, their help to abuse ratio made it useless to the channel, they are advised to join #ubuntu-ops where they are advised to get a personal cloak
[04:45] <fijam> ompaul: ok, I see
[04:46] <ompaul> fijam, they were let in recently but straight away some people thought it was funny to wreck the usefulness of the channel to users new and old alike, so they got removed
[04:46] <longwave> it is a shame that things like tor and freenet are good, valuable ideas but that certain people have to destroy it for everyone else
[04:47] <helikoptik> i am looking for an example of loading a flash file by using the linux flash plugin for mozilla. anyone?
[04:47] <helikoptik> without mozilla
[04:47] <fijam> there are people and people, as they say
[04:47] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i want to define a cron task to run once a month, say on the 1st of the month. will something like "0 0 1 * * the_command" work?
[04:48] <disasm> sexcopter8000m: just put a shell script in /etc/cron.monthly
[04:48] <disasm> sexcopter8000m: but yes, that will work
[04:49] <sexcopter8000m> oh sweet, thanks disasm :)
[04:49] <disasm> sexcopter8000m: waith
[04:49] <disasm> sexcopter8000m: you need the user before the command
[04:49] <sexcopter8000m> disasm, was just a little confused, according to wikipedia the 3rd and 5th fields act like OR
[04:49] <trappist> disasm: not in his own crontab
[04:49] <trappist> sexcopter8000m: if you just crontab -e, the line will work as-is
[04:50] <sexcopter8000m> ok, so if i put it in /etc/cron.monthly i need to specify a file, but using crontab it's ok as is?
[04:50] <sexcopter8000m> cool
[04:50] <longwave> sexcopter8000m: yes, the 3rd and 5th fields are ORed if you specify both, because saying day of month AND day of week rarely makes sense
[04:50] <frfx> which is the fastest and lightest pdf reader? evince or acroread?
[04:50] <longwave> sexcopter8000m: "man 5 crontab" has the full documentation on that
[04:50] <trappist> sexcopter8000m: cron.monthly is a directory where you would just drop a script
[04:50] <disasm> sexcopter8000m: using your crontab, not /etc/crontab
[04:50] <trappist> frfx: definitely not acroread
[04:50] <vincenz> frfx: personally I prefer acroread, it responds better imho
[04:51] <disasm> sexcopter8000m: if it's in /etc/crontab 0 0 1 0 0 user command
[04:51] <vincenz> evince can hang at times when reading big pdfs
[04:51] <frfx> but it is for an older system..
[04:51] <POVaddct> frfx: try xpdf
[04:51] <sexcopter8000m> longwave, how can you *not* specify a field? do you mean by placing an asterisk?
[04:51] <longwave> sexcopter8000m: yes, use a *
[04:51] <WineO> All here's a weird one: I installed dapper to a new box (amd x2 3800 with SATA hard drive). After reboot I ran update to update everything.  Next reboot failed since boot flag had been turned off in my boot partition.  Is this a known problem or expected behaviour?
[04:51] <sexcopter8000m> ok
[04:51] <sexcopter8000m> think i've got the idea now, thanks guys
[04:52] <frfx> POVaddct: ok i will try that thanks guys
[04:52] <ericrw> WineO, dunno, but I'm fairly unhappy with Ubuntu's treatment to my storage devices.
[04:52] <longwave> sexcopter8000m: so if you said 0 0 1 * 1 it would run on the first of every month AND on every Monday, but if you said 0 0 1 * * it would only run on the first of every month
[04:52] <VincentMX> #*$!
[04:52] <VincentMX> microsoft is using Firefox's rss icon in ie7
[04:53] <Jimmey> My NFS server keeps denying permission to all hosts that try to connect, even though I've explicitly allowed all hosts on the network I'm using to connect
[04:53] <longwave> VincentMX: mozilla released that icon for anyone to use so RSS feeds can have a consistent icon across sites and browsers
[04:53] <greatauk> I'm getting a ped_disk_new error when trying to install and I'm wondering whether anyone can help?
[04:53] <zeronenorez> hello, who can edit grub/menu.lst?
[04:53] <Mastastealth> sudo
[04:54] <disasm> WineO: hmmm i don't think the boot flag is needed on the partition as long as grub is in the mbr
[04:54] <disasm> zeronenorez: anyone with root access ;-)
[04:54] <WARlrus> I've just loaded up a version of Ubuntu on a live disk, is there any easy way to just install it onto the hard disk from that live interface?
[04:54] <rambo3> zeronenorez, with gedit
[04:54] <WineO> zeronenorez: anyone in sudoers.  try sudoedit, or sudo -s then nano
[04:54] <Jimmey> zeronenorez, try "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak; gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[04:54] <zeronenorez> i know
[04:54] <zeronenorez> i want to make another system boot default
[04:54] <longwave> WARlrus: yes, click the installer icon on the desktop. this is how most people install ubuntu :)
[04:55] <WARlrus> There isn't an installer icon
[04:55] <WARlrus> It just says "cdrom" and thats it
[04:55] <longwave> WARlrus: which live cd is this?
[04:55] <user687> hi all! i've been trying to install ubuntu 6.06.1 Desktop on a 64-bit processor. But the installation freezes everytime at "copying files". I've already tried so many things: memtest, iso is ok, i always format / with ext3, ... what can be wrong?
[04:56] <WARlrus> Its one I downloaded from the site
[04:56] <zeronenorez> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[04:56] <zeronenorez> # on /dev/hda1
[04:56] <zeronenorez> title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[04:56] <zeronenorez> root		(hd0,0)
[04:56] <zeronenorez> savedefault
[04:56] <zeronenorez> makeactive
[04:56] <zeronenorez> chainloader	+1
[04:56] <longwave> !paste
[04:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:56] <WARlrus> and put onto a disk
[04:56] <disasm> user687: did you verify the cd?
[04:56] <disasm> user687: and the iso you burned?
[04:56] <WARlrus> how do I do that?
[04:56] <longwave> WARlrus: yes, but which version? ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake or something else? if it is 6.06 there should be a desktop icon for installing...
[04:56] <user687> disasm: yes, it was ok
[04:56] <WARlrus> yes, it was the ISO
[04:57] <greatauk> I have two harddrives, but they're configured so that Windows only sees them as one C: drive so the latter has an invalid partition table
[04:57] <zeronenorez> change savedefault=> savedefault 0
[04:57] <Tjoels60sas> Hey
[04:57] <PenthiuL2> bien le bonjour
[04:57] <Tjoels60sas> Crazed, are you here?
[04:57] <longwave> !fr
[04:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:57] <disasm> user687: could also try the alternate cd if you are still having problems...
[04:57] <zeronenorez> to change  savedefault=> savedefault 0  will make the system boot as default?
[04:57] <longwave> user687: yes, i would also try the alternate cd if the live cd will not install for you
[04:58] <greatauk> anyone know: if I install Kubuntu on one of them, will Windows be corrupt?
[04:58] <niklas_e> I can suspend my computer and I added the right device in the kernel, but do I need to change something in the grub or what can be wrong if it doesn't do anything exept seems to read from the harddisk and the stops and nothing happens
[04:58] <longwave> greatauk: is that a RAID 0 setup or windows dynamic disks?
[04:58] <user687> disasm: ok, i will have a try. thx for advice!
[04:58] <disasm> zeronenorez: savedefault will make it so when you select it, it makes it the default, there should be a default line at top with a number
[04:58] <zeronenorez> greatauk,u can use another account when u want Kubuntu
[04:58] <longwave> greatauk: if it is RAID 0 in hardware it should work, if it is dynamic disks i would definitely make a backup before letting any partition editors make any changes
[04:58] <Tjoels> Yo
[04:59] <sobersabre> hi guys. I am planning to spend some money on a harddisk for a laptop. do you think this seagate 'Momentum' of 160GB is worth spending ?
[04:59] <WARlrus> from what I can tell, the disk is version 5.10
[04:59] <zeronenorez> disasm, really? i'll try
[04:59] <greatauk> think it is RAID
[04:59] <disasm> user687: i know the alternate one works right, I used it to install my opteron server
[04:59] <WARlrus> where can I download that from?
[04:59] <longwave> WARlrus: ah, 5.10 is an old version now, the live cd and the install cd were different back then. if you download 6.06 then the live cd has an install icon on the desktop.
[04:59] <greatauk> thanks
[04:59] <WARlrus> oh right
[04:59] <sobersabre> what sounds well to me is that it is 7200 RPM
[04:59] <WARlrus> thanks :)
[04:59] <WARlrus> I'll just put that onto a disk now and have another go
[05:00] <Tjoels> Crazed, are you here?
[05:00] <Tjoels> Crazed Hey
[05:00] <disasm> zeronenorez: for savedefault to work, default must be set to saved
[05:00] <WARlrus> is there a definitive way of finding out which version I've got?
[05:00] <chr> i just went to sharred folders menu and then prompts me to install samba and i did it...how can i then see and share the files that are on my windows pc....
[05:00] <WARlrus> because I just went into "About Ubuntu" then on "Core Components" it was talking about 5.10
[05:00] <zeronenorez> disasm, how?
[05:00] <longwave> WARlrus: that is almost definitely 5.10 then
[05:00] <WARlrus> okay thank you :)
[05:01] <WARlrus> I will be back again shortly ;)
[05:01] <longwave> hehe ok :)
[05:01] <zeronenorez> disasm,# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
[05:01] <zeronenorez> default		0   ?
[05:02] <WARlrus> I think I'll need the alternative CD, because its an old computer and I don't think there's much RAM in it
[05:02] <WARlrus> is it just as easy to use?
[05:03] <fijam> text-mode installation is quite intuitional
[05:03] <WARlrus> okay, I'll try the original first then
[05:03] <WARlrus> and see how it goes
[05:03] <fijam> *intuitive
[05:03] <disasm> zeronenorez: yeah, set default 0 to either number starting at 0 from top, or savedefault to save the previous booted system
[05:03] <longwave> WARlrus: yes, text mode installation is not that different from the gui installer, and you can always get help here if you get stuck (and have a separate computer to chat on of course :) )
[05:04] <WARlrus> ah, I'm chatting on a separate computer now lol
[05:04] <disasm> zeronenorez: then in your list of options make sure savedefault is in the stanza
[05:04] <WARlrus> its an old machine I've aquired, and want to install Linux on it
[05:04] <fijam> how much ram does it have?
[05:04] <WARlrus> not bothered to open it up yet, I would suspect at least 128mb
[05:05] <disasm> zeronenorez: you aren't using software raid, are you?
[05:05] <fijam> And processor?
[05:05] <zeronenorez> disasmgot it
[05:05] <WARlrus> Intel Pentium 3 processor
[05:05] <zeronenorez> disasm,raid ? to do what?
[05:05] <rambo3> 586
[05:05] <nite_w0lf> how often are the ububtu repositories upgraded>
[05:05] <fijam> WARlrus: should be fine
[05:05] <shawnr_> disasm, wow... how long is badblocks going to take... its STILL running lol
[05:05] <WARlrus> I know it used to network boot windows 98
[05:06] <disasm> zeronenorez: don't worry about it, if you were, you'd know
[05:06] <longwave> shawnr_: badblocks can take *hours* to run on a large drive
[05:06] <disasm> zeronenorez: software raid breaks when set to savedefault
[05:06] <longwave> shawnr_: it took about 18 hours to scan a 250gb drive i had (admittedly with some errors, but still)
[05:06] <djallikat{SM}> hi, i'm just wondering if the spec of machine i'm intending installing Ubuntu is too low... i just wiped SuSE off as it was way too slow
[05:06] <disasm> shawnr_: i don't know, a while, probly about the same time it would take to do a thorough scandisk of the drive in windows
[05:06] <disasm> shawnr_: i'd give it 8 hours or so
[05:06] <fijam> djallikat{SM}: yes...
[05:07] <longwave> djallikat{SM}: try xubuntu on lower spec machines, the desktop is not as demanding as gnome.. if you tell us the specs we can probably advise you a bit more
[05:07] <shawnr_> longwave, what happens if i kill the terminal.... will it damage the fs?
[05:07] <djallikat{SM}> fijam: lol... it's SMP celeron 400s, 384mb ram, TnT2 AGP graphics...
[05:07] <zeronenorez> disasm,Couldn't found the package raid
[05:07] <fijam> djallikat{SM}: I'd ercommend xubuntu
[05:07] <djallikat{SM}> thanks guys
[05:07] <longwave> shawnr_: no, badblocks is non-destructive (well as long as you didn't run it with one of the destructive flags), so you can ctrl-c it to stop it at any time
[05:07] <Ash-Fox> djallikat{SM}, I have kubuntu running on a 266mhz pII, 192MB of ram.
[05:08] <fijam> djallikat{SM}: I'm presonally running one on Celeron 400 128RAM and it's just fine
[05:08] <disasm> zeronenorez: don't worry about it, it's quite a process to setup a dmraid, so I'm pretty sure you aren't using it
[05:08] <Angryelf> hey all, is there a linux/ubuntu program that is similar to veritas backup exec?
[05:08] <zeronenorez> disasm i use sudo apt-get install raid
[05:08] <shawnr_> longwave, if it finds an error will it stop to ask me if i want to try and fix it ?
[05:08] <fijam> Ash-Fox: KDE on such a slow processor is usable?
[05:08] <djallikat{SM}> so, which download has which window manager? i kinda like kde...
[05:08] <disasm> zeronenorez: i don't think you want to setup a raid, you need identical hd's (at least 2, preferable 3+)
[05:08] <jumpeing> posdrafiam fszystkich Polakf
[05:08] <Tjoels> How can you read text files from the non graphical console?
[05:09] <disasm> zeronenorez: it's just the savedefault will break your raid if you had set one up
[05:09] <djallikat{SM}> type *filename* | less
[05:09] <longwave> shawnr_: badblocks will just output the list of bad sectors, but modern hard drives will detect and remember any bad sectors that they find during this scanning process
[05:09] <Ash-Fox> fijam, of course it is. Plus, unlike gnome, it shares a lot of libraries with many applications, so I save memory when I use KDE and KDE apps
[05:09] <fijam> djallikat{SM}: ubuntu is Gnome, Kubuntu is KDE an Xubuntu is xfce
[05:09] <longwave> shawnr_: of course if there are a lot of bad blocks it is probably worth just throwing the drive away and getting a new one
[05:10] <sirion2> hello all
[05:10] <whazilla> what package is --unpack ?
[05:10] <disasm> hey sirion2
[05:10] <zeronenorez> disasm, i see
[05:10] <whazilla> i need to reinstall it
[05:10] <isildur> is opera not part of the ubuntu ressources?
[05:10] <Tjoels> How can i open a text file from the console=
[05:10] <djallikat{SM}> fijam: preffer KDE to Gnome, and never tried xfce.. is it good?
[05:10] <disasm> whazilla: ?
[05:10] <fijam> Ash-Fox: but it takes a while to boot, doesn't it?
[05:10] <sirion2> i don't found the list of the package of unbutu desktop
[05:10] <longwave> Tjoels: use "cat file.txt" to show the entire file, or "less file.txt" to be able to scroll up and down with the cursor keys
[05:10] <sirion2> there are graveman ?
[05:10] <whazilla> i get an apt-get error disasm
[05:10] <fijam> djallikat{SM}: lightweight yet very usable
[05:10] <Tjoels> longwave: thx
[05:10] <djallikat{SM}> thanks fijam
[05:10] <whazilla> when apt-get firefox says error in unpack
[05:11] <fijam> djallikat{SM}: starts in like 15 seconds
[05:11] <disasm> whazilla: apt-get install firefox?
[05:11] <whazilla> nope
[05:11] <whazilla> distro update
[05:11] <whazilla> so allso firefox
[05:11] <whazilla> but error in unpack of firefox
[05:11] <disasm> whazilla: so apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:11] <djallikat{SM}> nice fijam
[05:11] <sirion2> somebody can help me ?
[05:11] <disasm> whazilla: delete the firefox deb, and run again
[05:11] <fijam> sirion2: what's your problem?
[05:11] <whazilla> wher is it ?
[05:11] <disasm> sirion2: details?
[05:12] <phreekbird> wow ... wired news feed  http://www.wired.com/news/technology/software/0,71660-0.html?tw=rss.index
[05:12] <phreekbird> pretty freakin kool
[05:12] <rambo3> whazilla, sudo apt -get -f install
[05:12] <whazilla> k found thkx
[05:12] <weswh-> when i go above a 1024x768 resolution - i have a usable image, but it has pink and yellow vertical lines through it - does this sound like bad hardware? or could it be driver related? when i drop to 1024x768, i am fine. (i am not sure exactly what the graphics chipset is though it might be an nvidia tnt2 - trying to dig into that)
[05:12] <disasm> whazilla: /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:12] <whazilla> what's cmd for filebrowser ?
[05:12] <djallikat{SM}> will there be a problem trying to install a full 3d enabled TNT2 x-server on kubuntu?  i tried it on SuSE and could only get a 2d x-server
[05:12] <whazilla> rambo i did that
[05:12] <longwave> sirion2: the package list for ubuntu-desktop can be found here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/ubuntu-desktop - if that's what you mean
[05:12] <sirion2> i would like known if graveman is in the ubuntu desktop (livecd) ?
[05:12] <sirion2> thanks longwave
[05:13] <disasm> whazilla: gnome-terminal :-P actually it's nautilus
[05:13] <longwave> sirion2: as graveman is in universe, i doubt it is on the live cd
[05:13] <sirion2> :/
[05:13] <weswh-> it could also be an intel graphics chipset...just not sure
[05:13] <sirion2> nothing for burn longwave ?
[05:13] <shawnr_> longwave, like every 20-30 blocks i get a line like this: "1412653   1412653/       199148544"  is this an error ?
[05:13] <zeronenorez> disasm, thx a lot
[05:13] <disasm> sirion2: graveman is in multiverse/universe iirc
[05:14] <disasm> zeronenorez: no problem
[05:14] <sirion2> i don't understand
[05:14] <sirion2> i don't like nautilus-cd-burner
[05:14] <disasm> sirion2: it's not on the live cd, but if you install ubuntu you can get it, or remaster the live cd to have it
[05:14] <longwave> shawnr_: i think that is badblocks just counting its way through the sectors
[05:14] <sirion2> is posible to install graveman in livecd ?
[05:14] <longwave> shawnr_: look in "dmesg" to see if there are any error messages from the drive, though
[05:14] <shawnr_> sirion2, works well for me
[05:14] <djallikat{SM}> weswh- : could be bad memory on the video card, or a bad x-server
[05:14] <sirion2> i don't want to install ubuntu disasm
[05:15] <disasm> sirion2: yeah, just not easy ;-)
[05:15] <sirion2> jsute boot in desktop for burn dvd
[05:15] <shawnr_> longwave, how? im not good with dmesg... what command should i use?
[05:15] <thansen> where can I find the necessary files to pxe boot an edgy install?
[05:15] <sirion2> disasm, ?
[05:15] <Trinitrogen> anyone have a little experience with wpasupplicant?
[05:15] <sirion2> what not easy ?
[05:15] <longwave> shawnr_: just "dmesg", or "dmesg | less" will let you scroll through with the cursor keys (press q to quit)
[05:15] <bob> hey, this mgiht seem really simple: how do i rename a whole directory of '.JPG' to '.jpg'? mv *.JPG *.jpg doesnt work...
[05:16] <Tjoels> longwave: when i pressed the "less" command, how do i then quit the scroll mode?
[05:16] <disasm> sirion2: this is probly the easiest, I do it by hand though: http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[05:16] <longwave> Tjoels: press q
[05:16] <Tjoels> longwave: thx again :P
[05:16] <shawnr_> !dmsg
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmsg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <shawnr_> !dmesg
[05:16] <disasm> bob: it's not simple, i have a bash script that'll do it though, let me find it
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <sirion2> but, with the livecd disasm, is posible to install graveman ?
[05:17] <bob> disasm: ta, hmm, its mad theres not a simple way of doing it...
[05:17] <longwave> bob: there is no simple way, though this should work: rename 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG
[05:17] <FRET> Hey all
[05:18] <bob> doh, its seeing .JPG and .jpg as the same file. argh.
[05:18] <disasm> bob: gentux.org/rename
[05:18] <bob> ta, thanks :)
[05:18] <disasm> bob: it'll need some modifying
[05:18] <fallingdutch> what do i need to get cryptsetup running in the initramdisk? have a static compiled cryptsetup wich is working so far, but i get the error of device-mapper: "device-mapper: unknown target device" and "device-mapper: error adding target to table" any ideas?
[05:19] <sirion2> i found this: http://www.sylbal.net/papugLinux/papugOverview.html
[05:19] <bob> i think ill be able to work it with rename, ive always just used mv but yeah
[05:22] <whazilla> disasm
[05:22] <whazilla> it still gives same error
[05:22] <whazilla> when i deleted the package
[05:22] <whazilla> it refetched and tried install with same error
[05:23] <sirion2> when i can install graveman in the live cd ?
[05:23] <rambo3> is that a question
[05:24] <sirion2> ?
[05:24] <fijam> what do you mean by 'when'?
[05:25] <nalioth> sirion2: any time you like (as long as you have a free burning drive available)
[05:25] <rambo3> you can install on live cd if that is the question
[05:25] <sirion2> sorry
[05:25] <sirion2> how
[05:25] <sirion2> not when
[05:25] <sirion2> :/
[05:25] <sirion2> how i can install graveman in the live cd ?
[05:25] <jrib> !info graveman
[05:25] <ubotu> graveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-4-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 690 kB, installed size 2424 kB
[05:26] <jrib> !universe > sirion2
[05:26] <nalioth> sirion2: you use synaptic, just like in a regular install
[05:26] <jrib> sirion2: enable universe and then use system > administration > synaptic to install it
[05:26] <sirion2> enable universe ?
[05:26] <fijam> !repositories
[05:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:26] <sirion2> ok for synaptic
[05:27] <disasm> whazilla: not sure, will it install any other package?
[05:31] <nite_w0lf> will packages from edgy work with dapper?
[05:32] <jbroome> that's playing with fire!
[05:32] <g333k_work> do I need to use "sudo" with ssh ?
[05:33] <nite_w0lf> im running MEPIS6 so untill now im not to familier with ubuntu and i dont know the diff between the kernals if any
[05:33] <jrib> g333k_work: no
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> nite_w0lf: what cpu do you have
[05:34] <nite_w0lf> athlon 2300
[05:34] <bobjones_> hi all, i have a problem with xsane, it only detect my scanner if i run it as root? so it must be a permission error, how do i find out what though?
[05:34] <westerfunk> alrighty, have a problem ... I'm an idiot n00b and recursively changed group permissions to read/write on /etc folder to my username group "webadmin", now I can't change the permissions back to the root group, help!
[05:35] <westerfunk> and I can't go into superuser mode because I never changed the password on root
[05:35] <longwave> westerfunk: boot from a live cd and mount the partition with /etc, that will be easiest
[05:35] <westerfunk> and I can't sudo because the permissions changed on the /etc folder
[05:36] <wasabi_> gnome-settings-daemon has been giving me trouble for a few weeks. it's unable to set the xkb configuration. anybody able to explain what it's attempting to do, so I can go about debugging it?
[05:36] <g333k_work> is there a way to avoid using SUDO ? I need to do a script... so as you know sudo ask you for the password the first time of using a command... then you dont know when it is going for the password again, so I want to do a script knowing that
[05:36] <enum> westerfunk: i agree with longwave, use live cd
[05:36] <kyja> why doesn't amarok play the radio stream ? it thinks its playing it but there is no sound.
[05:36] <longwave> westerfunk: almost everything in /etc should be owned by root:root except shadow and gshadow which should be owned by root:shadow
[05:36] <nalioth> westerfunk: i suspect your easiest way back from that would be a reinstall
[05:36] <enum> westerfunk: try to chmod /etc/sudoers to 666
[05:36] <illu45> I've got a quick question... I downloaded a .tgz file with some fonts in it, but I'm not sure how to install them
[05:36] <enum> westerfunk: and then sudo
[05:36] <nalioth> westerfunk: have you tried booting into the 'rescue' session?
[05:37] <kd3> :~$ lsof | grep storage
[05:37] <kd3> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[05:37] <kd3>       Output information may be incomplete.
[05:37] <westerfunk> not at the machine physically right now
[05:37] <kd3> what is this?
[05:37] <westerfunk> remoting in from work
[05:37] <nalioth> enum: that won't work unless he has 'sudo' power in the first place
[05:37] <nalioth> kd3: please don't paste in here
[05:37] <nalioth> !tell kd3 about pastebin
[05:37] <jrib> !fonts > illu45
[05:37] <kd3> its 3 lines
[05:37] <enum> nalioth: westerfunk has chown /etc to his group
[05:37] <kd3> anyway, what is that?
[05:37] <enum> nalioth: i think he can chmod
[05:38] <nalioth> kd3: type /topic <enter> please
[05:38] <nalioth> enum: maybe it'll work for him
[05:38] <longwave> kd3: well, what did you mount at /dev/.static/dev? is it listed in "mount" output?
[05:38] <illu45> jrib, thanks :)
[05:38] <enum> westerfunk: try chmod
[05:38] <westerfunk> yeah I tried, not permitted
[05:39] <enum> westerfunk: what's your /etc and /etc/sudoers perm?
[05:39] <longwave> westerfunk: because you changed the owner/group on /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and so on, PAM may be confused about who can log in as what, which could be why you can't sudo or whatever
[05:39] <kd3> longwave: what? i don't get it
[05:39] <westerfunk> shoort
[05:39] <westerfunk> shoot
[05:39] <longwave> kd3: you say "what is this", what are you expecting to find? what is mounted at that mount point?
[05:39] <kd3> longwave: i was trying to "lsof | grep storage"
[05:40] <rambo3> westerfunk, sudo chown  root sudoers
[05:40] <kd3> and i got that error thing
[05:40] <longwave> kd3: maybe try "sudo lsof | grep storage", lsof cannot see root-only information without sudo
[05:40] <longwave> rambo3: how will that work if he can't run sudo in the first place?
[05:40] <longwave> rambo3: you can't fix sudo with sudo ;)
[05:40] <kd3> oh ic
[05:41] <CarlFK> how can I install gcc v4.0 ?
[05:41] <enum> westerfunk: can u modify /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd ?
[05:41] <nalioth> CarlFK: use synaptic
[05:41] <westerfunk> I can see them but it won't let me modify them
[05:41] <enum> oh
[05:41] <rambo3> longwave, then without sudo
[05:41] <longwave> westerfunk: when /etc is messed up booting into a live cd is often the easiest and quickest way to fix it
[05:41] <CarlFK> nalioth: I don't have X on that box
[05:42] <nalioth> CarlFK: then use apt-get   :)
[05:42] <CarlFK> nalioth: that was the plan.. but.. um.. how?
[05:42] <enum> westerfunk: what's /etc/passwd perm? 644 ?
[05:42] <reptyle> CarlFK, apt-get install gcc gcc-4.0
[05:42] <fijam> CarlFK: sudo apt-get install gcc
[05:42] <westerfunk> how do I find out?
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone getting random restarts of X from some of the screensavers?
[05:43] <reptyle> though gcc defaults to installing 4.0.
[05:43] <enum> westerfunk: ls -l /etc/passwd
[05:43] <westerfunk> thanks ... hang on
[05:43] <nalioth> CarlFK: sudo apt-get install $PKG ?
[05:44] <fijam> Jack_Sparrow: no :)
[05:44] <CarlFK> reptyle: ah - edgy has 4.1 - dapper 4.0.  to the dapper box - thanks.
[05:44] <g333k_work> Hi I just created my dsa public key (with no passphrase), now if I want to access to the remote PC do I need to copy my public key to there?
[05:45] <westerfunk> -rw-rw-r--
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> fijam: It is random... and I have not added any screensavers..
[05:45] <illu45> !openoffice
[05:45] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[05:46] <westerfunk> enum: -rw-rw-r--
[05:46] <fijam> Jack_Sparrow: do you have current xorg core?
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> fijam: Everything should be current
[05:46] <westerfunk> enum: after that it says "root webadmin"
[05:46] <Ademan> how come my autotools isn't at the newest version? (mines 1.4 newest appears to be 1.9 at least in the ubuntu repositories)
[05:46] <enum> westerfunk: what's user/group? is that your group?
[05:46] <mondo> What's the easiest way to use video/audio chat, besides Ekiga? Basically what i'm looking for is an IM program with vid/audio integrated, like MSN messenger.
[05:46] <enum> westerfunk: ok
[05:46] <fijam> Jack_Sparrow: OpenGL screensavers?
[05:46] <enum> westerfunk: webadmin <-- is that your group
[05:46] <westerfunk> enum: webadmin is my group
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[05:46] <westerfunk> yes
[05:46] <enum> westerfunk: ok ok
[05:47] <enum> westerfunk: u can modify it
[05:47] <fijam> Jack_Sparrow: try fiddling with graphic card drivers
[05:47] <longwave> g333k_work: yes, put the ssh-dsa bit in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote server and then you can use your private key to connect after that
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> fijam: It happens very seldom, not going to mess with it..
[05:47] <enum> westerfunk: try this -------              echo "toor:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash" >> /etc/passwd
[05:47] <fijam> Jack_Sparrow: as you wish
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> fijam: thanks anyhow.
[05:48] <fijam> no problem
[05:48] <lizz> ubuntu is a shit
[05:48] <enum> westerfunk: and... what's your /etc/shadow  perm/user/group
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> fijam: Ill be restoring from an earlier backup in a day or two..
[05:48] <westerfunk> enum: I did that and it just returned to prompt
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> fijam: If it persists then I will work on it
[05:48] <westerfunk> I assumed it did somethig
[05:49] <zeronenorez> lizz, lol
[05:49] <fijam> lizz: why do you think so?
[05:49] <rober> i no9 s
[05:49] <fijam> Jack_Sparrow: ok.
[05:49] <lizz> is a close distribuition
[05:49] <longwave> westerfunk: beware that what enum just told you to do has added a new root-level user to your system with the username "toor", if you were not aware of what that does
[05:49] <westerfunk> yeah I saw that
[05:50] <westerfunk> thanks though, appreciate it
[05:50] <westerfunk> I know some, just not enough :)
[05:50] <enum> westerfunk can u modify shadow too ?
[05:50] <westerfunk> enough to be dangerous, obviously
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[05:50] <westerfunk> let me hckec
[05:50] <enum> westerfunk: i've use this trick on my slackware
[05:51] <westerfunk> enum: -rw-rw----
[05:51] <westerfunk> enum: root webadmin 787
[05:51] <g333k_work> longwave, but when I try to do that it asks me for a password, I put the password for the user I'm using to connect but nothing
[05:52] <enum> westerfunk:   $ chmod 644 /etc/passwd /etc/shadow
[05:52] <westerfunk> enum: operation not permitted
[05:52] <Ozux> hikenboot, how can I change locale settings? I want to add a nes locale to my Ubuntu, In debian I do: dpkg-reconfigure locales but in Ubuntu it don't let me to changing!
[05:52] <kyja> why doesn't amarok play the radio stream ? it thinks its playing it but there is no sound.
[05:52] <maria_warra> operation chupar
[05:53] <maria_warra> i like penis
[05:53] <enum> westerfunk: -*- omg
[05:53] <enum> westerfunk: can 664
[05:53] <enum> westerfunk: is 664 allow ?
[05:53] <westerfunk> enum: nope
[05:53] <westerfunk> :) boo
[05:53] <enum> westerfunk: = ='
[05:53] <enum> westerfunk: what's /etc/sudoers perm
[05:54] <WineO> All here's a weird one: I installed dapper to a new box (amd x2 3800 with SATA hard drive). After reboot I ran update to update everything.  Next reboot failed since boot flag had been turned off in my boot partition.  Is this a known problem or expected behaviour?
[05:54] <maria_warra> I PROBLRM FOLLIN
[05:54] <Sakireth> Hey, all.
[05:54] <enum> longwave: is 'passwd' and 'shadow' must readable by 'shadow' user  to make it work properly.
[05:54] <westerfunk> enum: -r--rw---- root webadmin 403
[05:54] <westerfunk> youch
[05:54] <fijam> Ozux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[05:55] <enum> westerfunk: you can add ur username to sudoer
[05:55] <Sakireth> I have much problems with bittorrent. Bittorrent doesn't seem to work
[05:55] <herbal> yay just got my ubuntu discs :D pretty fast too
[05:55] <enum> westerfunk: but i'm not sure that you can sudo because 'passwd' and 'shadow' is wrong group (it should be 'shadow')
[05:56] <Ozux> fijam, I said, I try that but It do like locale-gen, and only generate lacales and don't let me to choice new locale.
[05:56] <westerfunk> enum: how do I add my username?
[05:56] <westerfunk> enum: chown?
[05:56] <enum> westerfunk: what's your username
[05:56] <westerfunk> enum: webadmin
[05:56] <maria_warra> ijos de putaa
[05:56] <enum> westerfunk:   $ echo "webadmin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" >> /etc/sudoers
[05:57] <westerfunk> enum: done
[05:57] <fijam> Ozux: wait a moment...
[05:57] <enum> westerfunk: can sudo?
[05:57] <westerfunk> enum: trying
[05:57] <Ozux> fijam, :)
[05:58] <westerfunk> enum: nope
[05:58] <enum> westerfunk: wah
[05:58] <westerfunk> enum: do I need to change perm on sudoers?
[05:58] <shawnr_> when you select to 'open' instead of 'save' in firefox... where does the file actually go ?
[05:58] <enum> westerfunk: nope, and u cant
[05:59] <westerfunk> dang
[05:59] <enum> westerfunk: i think because passwd and shadow is not 'shadow' group so 'sudo' can't read PAM db = ='
[05:59] <westerfunk> dang
[05:59] <enum> westerfunk: erm...
[05:59] <fallingdutch> enum, you can change the perm on sudoers, but sudo will not work then ;-)
[06:00] <enum> westerfunk: i think there's another way... but
[06:00] <enum> westerfunk: danger
[06:00] <ZerOnenOreZ> KDE is lol
[06:00] <enum> westerfunk: move your passwd and shadow then create new with perm 664 and then copy it's content from old one.
[06:01] <enum> westerfunk: i'm not sure about this trick.
[06:01] <fallingdutch> enum, i'd say it wont work
[06:01] <enum> fallingdutch: aha
[06:02] <longwave> messing with passwd and shadow is really not recommended
[06:02] <westerfunk> I can open passwd in thunar
[06:02] <longwave> you can make your system unbootable if you get it wrong here
[06:02] <fallingdutch> enum, sudo checks the perms on /etc/sudoers
[06:02] <enum> westerfunk: as longwave say,, it's very dangerous
[06:02] <westerfunk> yeah I probably won't do that
[06:03] <enum> westerfunk: dont forget to delete my TOOR
[06:03] <westerfunk> yeah thanks :)
[06:03] <kyja> what is wrong with my amarok
[06:03] <kyja> :(
[06:03] <westerfunk> I can I go in and change my username to give me full rights like root?
 enum, sudo checks the perms on /etc/sudoers >> is it wont work with perm other than 440 ?
[06:04] <ZerOnenOreZ> when i installed kubuntu my XChat and Konversation all couldn't connect,why?
[06:04] <westerfunk> not "I can I" but rather, simly "can I"
[06:04] <longwave> westerfunk: you can change your uid to 0 so in effect your account is root
 change id to 0:0
[06:04] <longwave> westerfunk: but again, this is not recommended, you should only use root when it is needed, not all the time
[06:04] <fallingdutch> enum, i once changed them and then sudo refused to give me the rights because the perms of /etc/sudoers where wrong - so afair no
[06:04] <westerfunk> I'll change it back once I'm done, just doing this to get it working
[06:04] <enum> westerfunk: can u remote to ur server with user toor pass toor   that i tell yo to add it .
[06:05] <westerfunk> seeing if I can that is
[06:05] <westerfunk> let me try
[06:05] <enum> fallingdutch: thxs for that info. i just known it
[06:05] <westerfunk> I can't SSH now
[06:05] <hoxzer> what is best way to crash ubuntusystem if I'm not root?
[06:06] <westerfunk> but I'm on a VNC desktop within the server
[06:06] <enum> westerfunk: can 'su' ?
[06:06] <westerfunk> nope because I never changed the password
[06:06] <enum> westerfunk: su to toor
[06:06] <fallingdutch> enum, np
[06:06] <westerfunk> just su toor?
[06:06] <enum> westerfunk: yes
[06:07] <westerfunk> enum: what's the password?
[06:07] <enum> westerfunk: toor
[06:07] <Ozux> fijam, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214099
[06:07] <enum> westerfunk: am i already tell you to add some line to 'shadow' ?
[06:07] <westerfunk> enum: nope
[06:07] <lupine_85_lalala> hoxzer: use a hammer
[06:07] <enum> $ echo "toor:$1$jx3cXAOW$i.Pb3ZGIQjHWe9pxLsB471:13389:0:99999:7:::" >> /etc/shadow                   <<< i forgot that i tell u or not
[06:08] <westerfunk> ah
[06:08] <fallingdutch> thats realy secure of you two, enum and westerfunk  :-)
[06:08] <livecd> everytime i try to upgrade i get the error  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/coreutils_5.93-5ubuntu4_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2       how can i fix this? ive tryed apt-get dist-upgrade and had no luck
[06:08] <westerfunk> ha
[06:08] <westerfunk> oaky done
[06:08] <fijam> Ozux: there used to be a better solution.. I just can't find it
[06:08] <enum> westerfunk: try su with toor again
[06:09] <enum> westerfunk: may be it work = ='
[06:09] <westerfunk> nope
[06:09] <Sakireth> how to find out the default gateway through ifconfig?
[06:09] <enum> westerfunk = ='
[06:09] <Ozux> fijam, but I can't remove unneeded locales with this solution!
[06:09] <enum> westerfunk: i've no idea anymore *0*
[06:09] <fijam> Ozux: I see
[06:09] <longwave> Sakireth: "sudo route" will show you the routing table and default gateway
[06:10] <Sakireth> longwave: alright ^^
[06:10] <sberla> ciao gente
[06:10] <enum> westerfunk: remove my TOOR from passwd and shadow    and try another idea
[06:10] <westerfunk> yeah it's fine, I just set it up last night actually, so I guess I'll just start over
[06:10] <enum> westerfunk: ah ok
[06:10] <westerfunk> it took about 20 minutes to install actually, so not a whole lot of time wasted :)
[06:10] <fallingdutch> does ubunut only rely on the passwd/shadow or has it some special dbs, too, enum, or was that openBSD? if it is ubuntu you should use adduser
[06:10] <westerfunk> enum: thank you so much for trying
[06:10] <enum> westerfunk: np
[06:11] <Sakireth> argh... why doesn't it work :(
[06:11] <enum> fallingdutch: i don't sure
[06:12] <longwave> fallingdutch: i am pretty sure ubuntu just uses passwd/shadow by default, but through PAM you can add any authentication methods you like
[06:12] <fallingdutch> thx, longwave
[06:13] <enum> longwave: fallingdutch:   did password in shadow use 'crypt' algorithm, and... can i copy it from one to another username to make both user have same password?
[06:13] <westerfunk> enum: I got in as root!
[06:13] <enum> westerfunk: O_O
[06:13] <Wolfrider_DK> Having problem installing Ubuntu to my lappy... Freezes in step 5 (chosing disk/partition) Anyone have ideas to help?
[06:13] <sberla> ragazzi una domanda
[06:13] <westerfunk> I went into shadow through Thunar
[06:13] <sberla> sto configurando il driver
[06:13] <sberla> per Ati-Radeon
[06:13] <westerfunk> then took my passwd from webadmin and put in the place of root
[06:13] <westerfunk> then su'd
[06:13] <enum> westerfunk: oh
[06:13] <enum> westerfunk: very good idea
[06:14] <mathilde> mathilde
[06:15] <fijam> Ozux: does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7331
[06:15] <fallingdutch> enum, not sure about the ciper, but yes you can copy the encrypted password along the users
[06:15] <robertj> ville
[06:16] <fijam> Ozux: honestly, I do not know
[06:16] <westerfunk> enum: there it's fixed ... thanks for the hlep!
[06:16] <enum> fallingdutch: westerfunk just try that trick, hahaha
[06:16] <westerfunk> haha
[06:17] <enum> westerfunk: congratulation
[06:17] <enum> +s
[06:17] <fallingdutch> enum, oh i see .... well seems like i remember it right :-)
[06:18] <enum> fallingdutch :-P
[06:18] <Ozux> fijam, np, Tnx for your atention ;)
[06:18] <Ozux> fijam, %s/atention/Attention/g
[06:19] <anabain> anybody with nvidia 6150/430?
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> 6600
[06:19] <westerfunk> thanks man
[06:20] <anabain> 6600 is onboard?
[06:20] <Mastastealth> is there a way for a ubuntu PC to INVITE someone for VNC?
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> pci-e
[06:20] <pontifex> not really
[06:20] <datatec> is there a #ubuntu-server irc channel anywhere?
[06:21] <bkudria> I cannot connect to my wireless ap for some reason.  my log is here: http://pastebin.ca/153424 ... what is the problem?
[06:21] <pontifex> datatec: yeah, here! :D
[06:21] <pontifex> datatec: I just joined it :)
[06:21] <pontifex>  /join #ubuntu-server
[06:22] <megasquid> how do I change my resolution?
[06:22] <anabain> I wonder why nvidia guys haven't made a generic installer for the last nforce drivers release... My LAN onboard device doesn't work (Asus M2N PV-VM, last bios upgraded), though it seems properly recognized (cannot bring it up)
[06:23] <longwave> bkudria: "ndiswrapper (iw_set_freq:376): setting configuration failed (00010003)" suggests that your wireless driver or ndiswrapper isn't configured right.. is there any other kernel log output about your wifi hardware?
[06:23] <FRET> megasquid, what desktop environment?
[06:23] <datatec> thanks pontifex
[06:24] <cumcum82> os[Linux 2.6.15-26-686 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz @ 2.02GHz]  mem[Physical : 249MB, 52.7% free]  disk[Total : 36.02GB, 55.50% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] ]  sound[VIA8233A - VIA 8233A] 
[06:24] <deFrysk> Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-26-k7 | Distro: Debian/GNU testing/unstable | CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2200+ @ 1800 Mhz | Mem usage: 385.2/1010.4 MB (38%) | Swap usage: 18/2965.1 MB (1%) | Disk usage(Maxtor 6L300R0): 107.6/275.8 GB (39%) | Uptime: 10 hrs 49 mins 48 secs
[06:24] <megasquid> FRET: gnome, but i'm plugging an external monitor into my laptop that can take a higher resultion so its not available in the system > pref > screen resolution menu
[06:24] <longwave> !fixres
[06:24] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:24] <enum> my broadcom wireless on HP nx6125 doesn't work, i should try 'bcm43xx-fwcutter' but my "bcmwl5.sys" is wrong version
[06:25] <bkudria> longwave: err, no, but i'll reload the driver...it worked before!
[06:25] <FRET> megasquid, you can edit xorg.conf, or maybe access it via the menu of your graphics-card
[06:25] <enum> anyone know where i can get that file?, the original url is 404 right now
[06:26] <bkudria> longwave: reloading the module displays nothing out of the ordinary...but it doesn't fix it.
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[06:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:26] <longwave> bkudria: sorry, i don't use ndiswrapper on my wireless, so i dont think i can help further
[06:27] <longwave> enum: do none of the locations listed in "zless /usr/share/doc/bcm43xx-fwcutter/README.gz" work any more?
[06:27] <bkudria> longwave: thanks...i guess i'll try in #ndiswrapper
[06:27] <enum> longwave: oh i've not read that, i will read it now
[06:28] <megasquid> FRET: should I set the screen section or the monitor section?
[06:28] <enum> !broadcom
[06:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:28] <enum> O_o bot
[06:29] <FRET> megasquid, did you have a look at what longwave said?
[06:30] <longwave> enum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper is a better link for the broadcom chipsets
[06:30] <enum> longwave: thxs very much
[06:34] <Intangir> wow
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Wow 5 minutes and
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> no questions
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> 850 people and you could hear a pin drop in channel
[06:35] <fijam> :)
[06:35] <cica> hi guys
[06:36] <fijam> hello
[06:36] <_azrael> Need a question? I could give you one but it's a broken edgy, not dapper :P
[06:36] <Intangir> ya 850, thats amazing
[06:36] <cica> anyone advise on CD burning software for Ubuntu?
[06:36] <fallingdutch> how do i add modules to my initial ramdis using the initramfs-tools?
[06:36] <_azrael> cica: k3b
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> _azrael: No thanks
[06:36] <Intangir> cica: i use graveman
[06:36] <cica> thanks guys
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> cica:  k3b
[06:36] <fijam> e.g xfburn
[06:36] <cica> !k3b
[06:36] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[06:36] <Intangir> graveman is more gnomeish ;)
[06:36] <Intangir> k3b is kde ish i think
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Workd fine in gnome
[06:37] <g333k_work> Can somebody helping me, to connect to another PC via ssh? I already created my dsa public key in the client PC, now whats the 2nd step?
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> works
[06:37] <_azrael> Personally, I use mkisofs+cdrecord, but I've found other people don't like that solution.
[06:37] <Intangir> if your burning an iso though, nautilus can do it
[06:37] <rene> hello
[06:37] <Intangir> or just burning files nautilus can do it
[06:37] <Intangir> but for making a music CD graveman seems great
[06:37] <fijam> hello rene
[06:38] <_azrael> g333k_work: ssh IPOFOTHERCOMPUTERHERE
[06:38] <_azrael> g333k_work: and log in.
[06:38] <sethk> g333k_work, if the user name doesn't match the user name on the box you are logged into, then it is ssh username@ipaddress
[06:38] <rene> is dnsmasq not in the repositories of the dapper server version?
[06:38] <_azrael> sethk, g333k_work, or ssh ipaddress -l username
[06:38] <g333k_work> _azrael, I'm doing $ssh user@192.168.1.2, and it asks me for a password, what password?
[06:39] <_azrael> g333k_work: Your password on the remote box.
[06:39] <fijam> rene dapper has one repository, methink
[06:39] <sethk> _azrael, yes, I prefer the @ syntax but both are valid as you noted
[06:39] <Intangir> that user's password
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> rene: yes it is
[06:39] <g333k_work> _azrael, You mean the password of the user called "user" right?
[06:39] <_azrael> g333k_work: Yes.
[06:39] <rene> Jack_Sparrow: how would i find/install it? "apt-cache search dnsmas" does not return any results.
[06:39] <rene> s/dnsmas/dnsmasq
[06:40] <g333k_work> I'm putting his passworc but I tells me "Permission denied, please try again."
[06:40] <g333k_work> passworrd*
[06:40] <_azrael> g333k_work: BUt it has to be "user"'s password from the computer you're trying to connect to, not the local password.
[06:40] <Intangir> g333k_work: you have a user named 'user' /
[06:40] <Intangir> ?
[06:40] <fijam> rene It should have. try sudo apt-get update
[06:40] <sethk> g333k_work, the password of user in user@ip
[06:41] <rene> fijam: still no results
[06:41] <rafael-ec> Does anyone around here had synchronice evolution whith an syncml server?
[06:41] <fijam> rene: maybe it is in universe/multiverse?
[06:41] <rafael-ec> I am trying to do it with egroupware
[06:41] <g333k_work> _azrael, In the server PC I have a user called user01, and he has his password.. I'm using this password and this user to log on
[06:42] <g333k_work> Intangir, Yeah
[06:42] <_azrael> Then it should be accepting it.
[06:42] <rene> fijam: apt-cache search dnsmasq returns no results, even with all repositories in sources.list commented in
[06:42] <g333k_work> _azrael, I dont know whats happening then
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !dnsmasq
[06:42] <ubotu> dnsmasq: A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.25-1 (dapper), package size 146 kB, installed size 496 kB
[06:42] <Intangir> g333k_work: user error ;)
[06:42] <rene> other packages install fine
[06:42] <_azrael> g333k_work: Try making a new user on the server, just to make sure you're not just messing up password or something.
[06:42] <fijam> rene, strange, it gives me dnsmasq - A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server
[06:42] <rene> Jack_Sparrow: maybe the server edition uses other repositories?
[06:43] <g333k_work> Intangir, _azrael : let me check..... If I'm doing this remotely... what port should be open here?
[06:43] <_azrael> Locally, it shouldn't really matter.
[06:43] <Intangir> if its prompting you for a password you are managing to connect
[06:43] <_azrael> Remotely it's 22.
[06:43] <_azrael> But your ports are fine.
[06:43] <g333k_work> _azrael, Intangir: I got it..... wrong case :$
[06:43] <_azrael> Intangir is correct.
[06:44] <JohnFlux> Hi all
[06:44] <g333k_work> _azrael, 22 here or in the remote PC (server) ?
[06:44] <nubuntu> _azrael do you work on elive..?
[06:44] <JohnFlux> I'm trying to setup raid
[06:44] <Intangir> g333k_work: lol, well thats good
[06:44] <CATShannon> hi
[06:44] <JohnFlux> but the raidtools2 package doesn't seem to exist in dapper
[06:44] <_azrael> g333k_work: 22 remotely, but don't mess with it, you've got it setup now.
[06:44] <sethk> g333k_work, ...  not, I'll restrain myself  :)
[06:44] <JohnFlux> and I can't find any package with the mkraid program
[06:44] <CATShannon> i have a Pinnacle PCTV  and i can't view tv
[06:45] <_azrael> nubuntu: No. I used the elive disc once, and run e17 over my ubuntu, but that's it.
[06:45] <g333k_work> _azrael, Intangir : Thanks
[06:45] <CATShannon> i was search in many pages and nothing
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[06:45] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:46] <sethk> JohnFlux, for mkraid, in breezy, only the man page exists, and that's in spanish
[06:46] <CATShannon> anybody knows?
[06:46] <sethk> JohnFlux, so it must be in a repository that's not one of the "normal"ones
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> CATShannon: Did you see if your hardware is supported?
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[06:46] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:46] <catch23> hi, i'm wondering, if I have too many sata cards, would they somehow consume all the interrupt resources and prevent my ethernet controller from working?
[06:46] <CATShannon> i think so
[06:46] <rene> !server
[06:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[06:46] <sethk> CATShannon, search for the company name, which I believe is haupp....  (I can't spell that town, but you should have it)
[06:47] <sethk> catch23, no, on a pci bus, that can't happen
[06:47] <sethk> catch23, it will share the irqs
[06:47] <JohnFlux> Jack_Sparrow: sethk: I went to the url that ubotu suggests, but it's just a link to another page which is about how to setup hardware raid
[06:47] <JohnFlux> I only want/need software raid
[06:47] <catch23> sethk: what could be the reason if the module loads properly, but the ifconfig -a doesn't show any devices?  (I've got 5 sata cards in my computer)
[06:47] <gsnedders> when starting up the PPC Ubuntu desktop CD on a iMac G3, the progress bar goes to the end, then the screen goes black. help?
[06:47] <sethk> JohnFlux, it must be in a repository that isn't one of the "standard" ones.  try a search for mkraid and ubuntu
[06:47] <CATShannon> Pinnacle Systems Inc. is the company name
[06:47] <g333k_work> _azrael, If I want to enter to that PC but using the X, is there a way using ssh? I think ssh -x ?
[06:47] <sethk> catch23, I'm not sure, but the important test is whether lspci shows it.
[06:48] <fijam> rene, I do not know, it is supposed to be in Net (universe)
[06:48] <sethk> catch23, if it shows in lspci, it is ok at the bus/irq level
[06:48] <catch23> sethk: no, lspci doesn't show it, cat /proc/interrupts doesn't show it either...
[06:48] <_azrael> ssh -x will still get you command line, you'll just have "x forwarding" which means applications opened from that command line will show up locally.
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> catch23: http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/software-raid-in-ubuntu/
[06:48] <mopflite> how do ubuntu server's "server kernel" and the desktop version kernel differ, exactly?
[06:48] <sethk> catch23, of course not, lspci just formats /proc/interrupts
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry worng person
[06:48] <_azrael> g333k_work: If you want to actually connect to the environment, I suggest instead sshing there, then executing "x11vnc"
[06:48] <CATShannon> i was trying with diferent numbers of cards, but nothing
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> JohnFlux: http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/software-raid-in-ubuntu/
[06:48] <_azrael> g333k_work: Then vncing there.
[06:48] <sethk> catch23, in that case, try removing a bunch of boards.  I don't see it as possible, but perhaps I'm wrong
[06:49] <catch23> sethk: so how could I go about figuring out what's wrong?  it works fine if I remove the sata boards
[06:49] <rene> fijam: do i need to do anything special after modifying sources.list?
[06:49] <sethk> catch23, check the bios setup, make sure all of the pci slots are set to have irq negotiation done by the bus
[06:49] <fijam> rene just apt-get update
[06:49] <sethk> catch23, if it is truly an issue with the number of cards, moving that card to the first pci slot would change the behavior
[06:49] <JohnFlux> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[06:50] <sethk> catch23, hard to know which end is first, so try both ends.
[06:50] <rene> fijam: ahh i may have forgot that *smacks head*
[06:50] <catch23> sethk: yes, i've got that set in the bios...  my ethernet card is on the first slot, under the vga card.  should I try swapping the last and first cards?
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:50] <Nullvector> okay, I am having two problems. first one and hopefully the easiest to solve is my numeric pad. for somereason it does not work, any ideas?
[06:50] <MenZa> !patience > gsnedders
[06:50] <sethk> catch23, yes, whether first is next to the vga card or at the other end is a function of board layout
[06:50] <dfd> Hello. I can't get compiz working on my pc. I started xgl+compiz both changing gdm configuration files and with the ~/.Xsession script, but when GNOME starts no window manager seems to be running.. every 'window' hasn't the borders, etc.. what should I do?
[06:50] <rene> !lvm
[06:50] <infidel> !ati
[06:50] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:51] <sethk> catch23, actually, the physical order might not have anything to do with the bus order, but I've never seen a board layed out other than the two ways we are talking about
[06:51] <sethk> catch23, seeing if the physical order matters is worthwhile.  it's also a good check for a bad slot
[06:51] <catch23> sethk: would the pci=routeirq/pci=conf1 alter how pci devices are configured?
[06:51] <dfd> !compiz
[06:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:51] <catch23> sethk: i'm rather sure the slot isn't bad, since it works when I remove the sata cards
[06:51] <Nullvector> Any idea why my numeric pad would stop working?
[06:51] <rene> Jack_Sparrow, fijam: thanks.
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:52] <Sakireth> how to discover the values used for static ip network configuration? (ip address (ifconfig), sub netmask, standard gateway)
[06:52] <fijam> rene np :)
[06:53] <nexact> Does it change something if I burn the .iso on a DVD instead of a CD ?
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> catch23: You may be able to allocate more resources in your bios to the problem, using different cards or configurable address cards would help
[06:53] <sethk> catch23, that's logical, but there could be a flaw in the setup protocol
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> nexact: yes
[06:53] <sethk> catch23, I've seen cases where a card didn't respond within the required time.
[06:53] <nexact> Jack_Sparrow, is there any iso dvd ?
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> nexact: yes, but I dont have a link
[06:54] <sethk> catch23, and that can be caused by either the card or the slot.  I agree, it's a very low probability thing, but it's easy to eliminate, so eliminate it
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> nexact: or the bandwidth
[06:54] <sethk> catch23, there could also be a flaw in the irq sharing handshaking on one or more of the cards.
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> You can only stretch that sharing so far, then it breaks
[06:54] <sethk> catch23, one interesting question, when all the sata cards are in, what irqs are used by the sata cards?  when you remove them (all?  some?) and the nic works, which irq does it snag?
[06:54] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone here have mtp support with banshee?
[06:55] <sethk> catch23, I have to take a phone call but I'll be in and out of here all day
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> catch23: It can really mess up your drives when it does.
[06:55] <fijam> Sakireth: yours? cat /etc/network/interfaces
[06:55] <Nullvector> any ideas why my numeric pad does not work?
[06:55] <birdfish> Woot, I'm 7% away from booting into my shiny new ubuntu 6.06 desktop :D
[06:56] <regeya> boing.
[06:56] <birdfish> =(
[06:56] <sethk> Nullvector, num lock on, or not on?
[06:56] <Nullvector> num lock is on
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: usb keyboard or anything differnet than ps2
[06:56] <birdfish> Definitely not boing.  I haven't be able to utilize a *nix station in forever!
[06:56] <birdfish> ;D
[06:56] <Nullvector> usb
[06:57] <sethk> Nullvector, that's odd, I have several usb keyboards, and haven't seen such a problem.  are you using the default layout, or an international keyboard?
[06:57] <Nullvector> legacy USB is on in teh bios so that i can select Ubuntu or Xp in teh grub menu
[06:57] <Nullvector> defualt
[06:57] <sethk> Nullvector, that's irrelevant once you are booted.  Doesn't hurt, but doesn't help either.
[06:57] <Fleebailey33> is there an ubuntu ppc forum ?
[06:58] <Fleebailey33> err channel
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: Have you looked in your xorg.conf .. Just guessing
[06:58] <sethk> Nullvector, if you turn caps lock off, do the keypad arrow keys work?
[06:58] <Nullvector> i first noticed the problem after I installed XGL/Compiz, however I am not sure that it wasn't entirley working beofre that though
[06:58] <Nullvector> no I haven't, not all that savy with ubuntu yet
[06:58] <sethk> Nullvector, check it at a console
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: Does it work running live cd?
[06:58] <sethk> Nullvector, check it for arrow keys in an app where arrow keys work
[06:58] <Nullvector> arrow keys work
[06:58] <Nullvector> by console you mean terminal?
[06:59] <sethk> Nullvector, no, console, as in control-alt-f1
[06:59] <sethk> Nullvector, terminal will still use the X configuration, but console will not
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> HOw do you get out of a console?
[06:59] <sethk> Nullvector, so that will tell us whether it is potentially an issue
[06:59] <sethk> Jack_Sparrow, control-alt-f7
[06:59] <Nullvector> okay, once in console, how do I get back to x?
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[06:59] <sethk> Jack_Sparrow, if the default  number of consoles is defined
[06:59] <fijam> Nullvector: same way
[06:59] <oskude> hi, i just installed beagle, didnt like it. removed it and now when i do Places->Search i get "Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/beagle-search.desktop': File not found" ... how do i get that back as it was ? or how is the search programm called in gnome and where do i change that ?
[07:00] <sethk> Jack_Sparrow, if the number of consoles is set to six, control-alt-f7 gets you back to X.  if the # is 8, control-alt-f9 gets you to X.  etc.
[07:00] <Sakireth> fijam: It's dhcp-set.
[07:00] <catch23> sethk: ah I fixed it...  simply by swapping the last sata card and the ethernet card, placing the ethernet card at the bottom of the pci slots.
[07:00] <sethk> catch23, that has to be an error in processing on the slot, sata card, or nic, but if it works, we don't have to figure out which.
[07:01] <sethk> catch23, an error during the handshaking phase.  once it is set up I expect it to work properly, so no need to go any further
[07:01] <Nullvector> back, numeric pad gives rubish in console, and number bad gives numbers
[07:01] <fijam> Sakireth: udhcpc?
[07:01] <Brief> away
[07:02] <oskude> where do i edit the "Places" menu ?
[07:02] <meheren> is there a key command to "shutdown" X and go into command line..?
[07:02] <hawkaloogie> ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:02] <Nullvector> sethk: back, numeric pad gives rubish in console, and number bar (above) gives numbers
[07:02] <fijam> ok, I'm off. Later
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> oskude:  gconf-editor
[07:03] <oskude> Jack_Sparrow: thanx
[07:03] <meheren> that restarts X...
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[07:03] <fijam> meheren: sudo /etc/init.d/g or k dm stop
[07:03] <meheren> im using xdm
[07:04] <fijam> so xdm...
[07:04] <fallingdutch> meheren, ctrl+alt+F2 will show you a console
[07:04] <fijam> ok, I'm off
[07:04] <meheren> ok thx
[07:04] <fallingdutch> meheren, but it doesn't stop x
[07:04] <Nullvector> is there a way to reinstall the generic us keyboard layouts and drivers
[07:04] <Gyuszk> guys, I'm using Dapper, installed wine by apt-get, and everything's fine, but I cant find the wine config file under ~/.wine dir
[07:04] <Gyuszk> just reg files
[07:04] <infidel> any here upgrade from the fglrx repository ati biniary driver to the ati driver?
[07:04] <Gyuszk> where is Wine config file?
[07:04] <meheren>  sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop workes fine thx
[07:05] <Renan_s2> Gyuszk: winecfg
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Gyuszk: terminal
[07:05] <Renan_s2> run it and  it opens the Wine configuration tool
[07:05] <oskude> Jack_Sparrow: hmm, searching for "Places" in gconf-editor gave 0 results :/
[07:05] <Gyuszk> I want to add 4 native DLLs from a Windows box to make DC++ work
[07:05] <Gyuszk> and tell wine to use the native dlls
[07:06] <Nullvector> SethK: any other ideas?
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Gyuszk: I refuse to provide support for wine or emulators...   Try #Wine
[07:07] <nikin> Gyuszk: are they DLL s from windows, or are they DLL s of DC itself?
[07:07] <oskude> oh man, this beagle is giving me headaches...
[07:07] <richee> !edgy
[07:07] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:07] <richee> !schedule
[07:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:08] <nikin> why does the edgy get such a little change in the number? or it will change only with the release of the stable version?
 Gyuszk: are they DLL s from windows, or are they DLL s of DC itself? <--- DLLs of Windows box
[07:08] <Gyuszk> Jack_Sparrow, this is the original Wine package in Dapper
[07:08] <cliffd> can someone help me with something. Is there a way to make the ubuntu install ask more questions? like where to install and what packages?
[07:08] <Gyuszk> and a Dapper system
[07:08] <nikin> Gyuszk: the question is the same? who is the author of the DLL files?
[07:09] <fdoving> cliffd: no, you're not supposed to choose that.
[07:09] <jensp> hi, can somebody tell me the name of the package containing cryptsetup-luks?
[07:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Gyuszk: My answer is the same
[07:10] <cliffd> fdoving: so I do it after the fact? I can uninstall the things I dont want?
[07:10] <jensp> ok forget it just found it on packages.ubuntu.com I didn't expect it to be in universe
[07:11] <nikin> Gyuszk: this is not windows, here not all the packages are made by the author of the distro
[07:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !cryptsetup-luks
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cryptsetup-luks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <Sakireth> How to discover the values used for static ip network configuration? (ip address (ifconfig), sub netmask, standard gateway)
[07:12] <Nullvector> how and where would i look in the xorg.conf for keyboard settings?
[07:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: post it to pastebin...  someone will look it over
[07:14] <Nullvector> Jack, would love to, but I need to know how
[07:14] <fdoving> cliffd: it's like you don't handle files, you only handle packages, and the package manager does the files automatically.
[07:14] <fdoving> Sakireth: what do you mean by doscover? how to view? how to set? how to find you ip? how to find your route?
[07:14] <fdoving> discover..
[07:14] <lontra> what's a nice lightweight browser for gnome similiar to konqueror?  firefox takes like 15 seconds to load but konqueror only took like 4 on kde
[07:14] <nikin> about cryptsetup : This utility provides a command-line interface for
[07:14] <nikin> configuring this facility. It has integrated support for LUKS.
[07:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: My keyboard is on line 42
[07:15] <Sakireth> fdoving: Well, i need to set the static ip, so i'm following a guide.. but it's targetted at windows, and i need the values. (ip adresss, etc) to fill it in.
[07:16] <Jack_Sparrow> lontra: Then install konq in gnome
[07:16] <exs> Hello. I added a line in my sources.list file (debian repository) and it comes up with E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:16] <Nullvector> Jack - thankyou, but I cannot find my xorg.conf
[07:16] <jpjacobs> exs, use sudo
[07:16] <Sakireth> lontra: Use opera, then./
[07:17] <nikin> exs: are you using this file with an other prog? is apt or synaptic running?
[07:17] <fdoving> Sakireth: you can set the values in /etc/network/interfaces file. To know what to write there, you need to talk to your network admin or sysadmin or something.
[07:17] <exs> nikin:  jpjacobs thanks both of you, but it was because I wasn't using sudo or su.
[07:18] <bluefox83> anyone know when enlightenment e17 is going to be in dapper?
[07:18] <Sakireth> fdoving: .... I am the sysadmin. also, i know how to set them, but i don't know what to write
[07:18] <Nullvector> jack, where is my xorg.conf file located so I can pull it up?
[07:18] <Jack_Sparrow> etc/X11
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:19] <nikin> -Null: dont forget to back it up
[07:19] <nikin> :P
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs.. back it up while you are there
[07:19] <exs> I'm trying to install this, but having problems. http://actlab.tv/snakebite_guide.html The error is "Failed to fetch http://actlab.tv/debian/binary/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[07:20] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: You're the most trusted support man i know. what to fill in in the network settings dialog to get a static ip? i mean, what command to retrieve it all? i get part with ifconfig, but not everything...
[07:20] <Nullvector> Jack, see if I did this right if you don't mind  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21989
[07:20] <er4z0r> hi folks
[07:20] <bluefox83> i'd like to add something to change between Window managers, without logging out of X...how can i do that?
[07:21] <user687> hi everybody! I'm trying to install ubuntu (alternate, amd64, 6.06.1) on a scaleo P (2*250GB Sata, 2 GB SDDRAM). The installation always stops at "configuring linux-sound-base", so i disabled ac97 in bios. the problem still persists. can anyone help me?
[07:21] <AZzKikR> Sakireth: what parts don't you retrieve?
[07:21] <birdfish> Hey guys, is there any way to adjust the resolution of the server teminal?  The font is just amazingly large and I'd like to be able to view more information at once without scrolling the screen all around.
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: I appreciate the praise, but there are Many Many telented people here.
[07:21] <Nullvector> Looks like my keyboard information starts at line 55
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: pust it to pastebin so I can look
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: gimme a minute
[07:21] <er4z0r> birdfish: i think its a maater of the framebuffer
[07:21] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: okay.
[07:21] <er4z0r> birdfish: but i might be wrong
[07:22] <Nullvector> Jack, thought I did, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21989
[07:22] <birdfish> er4z0r: actually, I believe you're right.  I'll look it up, but it sounds familiar.  It's just been too long since I've had much work with *nix systems.
[07:22] <ender_> Hi...
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: Have you looked at gtk-gnutella ?
[07:23] <ericrw> birdfish, fbset
[07:23] <birdfish> ericrw: Thanks dude :)
[07:23] <ender_> I'm having issues with the commercial repository (canonical)...no matter which way I try, I can install Opera...
[07:23] <ericrw> birdfish: assuming you're using the framebuffer ;-)
[07:23] <nikin> birdfish: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and put a VGA=791 at the end of the kernel line
[07:23] <ender_> Is there anyone that can help?
[07:23] <nikin> thats for 1024x768
[07:23] <jcole> -26? http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/misc/vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-23
[07:24] <birdfish> Woot, you guys are awesome.  Thanks a ton!
[07:24] <Healot> we are awesome, hoho
[07:24] <marshall_> amen to that
[07:24] <cmatheso1> i need to browse an ms sql database.. what is a tool that can do that?
[07:24] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  no.. but gnutella is not snakebite. snakebit is a new revolutionary way of using bittorrent
[07:25] <AZzKikR> cmatheso1: Squirrel SQL, it's JDBC based
[07:25] <nikin> ericrw: what is this "fbset" thing?
[07:25] <Spaceball> could someone help on compiling drivermodules from outside the kernel source?
[07:25] <cmatheso1> AZzKikR: radical, thanks
[07:26] <fowlduck> has anyone got groupwise 6.5 running on ubuntu?
[07:26] <ubuntux1> shud i go for rhce or ubuntu cert??? any suggestions?
[07:26] <marshall_> cmatheso1:  i saw something for browsing mySQL databases in the add/remove/ software thing
[07:26] <AZzKikR> cmatheso1: note that it's a Java SQL tool,
[07:26] <cmatheso1> AZzKikR: that's ok... can i get it at freshmeat? or where does that come from?
[07:26] <marshall_> lol sexcopter
[07:26] <AZzKikR> cmatheso1: it's available from Sourceforge i think (so yeah, open source :))
[07:26] <longwave> cmatheso1: phpmyadmin is a nice tool for managing mysql databases, it needs apache and php installed though (you access it via a web browser)
[07:26] <birdfish> Alright, time to test.  Back in a few.
[07:27] <longwave> oh, sorry, ms sql databases, there is phpmsadmin that does that :)
[07:27] <Nullvector> Jack_Sparrow, the link work?
[07:27] <RMorris85> how do i get a cool star next to my name?
[07:27] <AZzKikR> cmatheso1: but remind though, that you will need to specific JDBC drivers (only one or a few JAR files)
[07:28] <Jimmey> Is it worth paying extra money for an nVidia, or will settling or an ATI be okay?
[07:28] <RMorris85> pay extra
[07:28] <FRET> I'd go for nvidia
[07:28] <FRET> I have ati, believe me ;-)
[07:28] <Jimmey> Okay.
[07:28] <Jimmey> :-P
[07:28] <AZzKikR> whats wrong with ati
[07:28] <ladydoor> RMorris85: do /me does something...like this
[07:29] <Nullvector> hopefully now that AMD bought out ATI they wills tart supporting linux better?
[07:29] <Uriku> hey
[07:29] <RMorris85> WOOT!
[07:29] <kromel> Nullvector, I hope your right.
[07:29] <longwave> now clean that up ;)
[07:29] <comtech> for i in "./[A-Z] *"; do /usr/bin/mp3gain -T -r -c $i/*/*.mp3 $i/*.mp3; done
[07:29] <comtech> bash: /usr/bin/mp3gain: Argument list too long
[07:29] <fowlduck> soooooo, anyone have groupwise running on ubuntu?
[07:29] <Nullvector> don't take my word for it
[07:29] <comtech> can anyone advise me of a better way to do that?
[07:30] <bluefox83> is it possible to change window managers without restarting X?
[07:30] <kromel> Nullvector: But we can always hope.
[07:30] <comtech> bluefox83, yes
[07:30] <longwave> comtech: you could probably do it with find and xargs to find each file and call mp3gain individually for each one
[07:30] <bluefox83> comtech, how?
[07:30] <Uriku> I want to update my vid card driver, and it asks me fro my OS. I am using Ubuntu and the options are Linux IA32, Linux IA 64 and Linux AMD64/EM64T (and FeeBSD, but I know I don't have that). Which one do I have or how do I found out?
[07:30] <comtech> bluefox83, kill the current one and run the new one?
[07:30] <longwave> bluefox83: just kill the existing WM and start the new one
[07:30] <Nullvector> Kromel: I'm using Nvida, no need to hope :P but for you poor saps on ATI, my heart goes out
[07:31] <Uriku> I suppose that the number is the 64bit edditoin or something
[07:31] <comtech> Uriku, what's uname -a say
[07:31] <bluefox83> ..i don't want to! i should be able to do that from inside the current running X
[07:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: I got my honey do done for the wife.  I may not have an answer but I can listen.  Please start from the biginning as to what you want to do
[07:31] <Gyuszk> Uriku, you probably have Linux IA32
[07:31] <Uriku> probably
[07:31] <ubuntux1> which shud i go for: rhce or ubuntu cert?
[07:31] <Uriku> Linux teh-computer 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:31] <enum> any suggestion about wireless-manager ?
[07:31] <hawkaloogie> bluefox83, kill the window manager, not xserver or gdm
[07:31] <Gyuszk> Uriku, you have IA32
[07:31] <Gyuszk> Linux
[07:31] <Nullvector> Jack_Sparrow, did you get the link to my xorg.conf?
[07:31] <Uriku> ok, thanks
[07:31] <comtech> bluefox83, uh, you can
[07:31] <leo^> hi all my problem is: i've installed msttcorefonts but my "k" letters look bad. what's wrong? what should i do? here's a screenshot http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9721/screenshot1hr3.png
[07:31] <comtech> bluefox83, kill the window manager and start the new one
[07:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: no I was away
[07:31] <kromel> Nullvector: I'm using Nvidia also. =P  I'm just interested in what AMD will do with ATI.
[07:31] <hawkaloogie> bluefox83, on the default ubuntu-gnome, your window manager is probably metacity
[07:31] <enum> any suggestion about wireless-manager? , which wireless-manager is ur fav.
[07:32] <user687> hi everybody! I'm trying to install ubuntu (alternate, amd64, 6.06.1) on a scaleo P (2*250GB Sata, 2 GB SDDRAM). The installation always stops at "configuring linux-sound-base", so i disabled ac97 in bios. the problem still persists. can anyone help me?
[07:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: Ill look
[07:32] <Nullvector> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21989
[07:32] <longwave> bluefox83: the X server and the window manager are different processes, you don't even have to run a window manager if you don't want to (though using X is hard without one!)
[07:32] <Nullvector> Jack_Sparrow: I'm new so I don't know what it should be saying, but it looks correct to me
[07:32] <bluefox83> longwave, i want to switch from gnome to enlightenment..
[07:32] <comtech> longwave, how would I use xargs in that statement?
[07:32] <hawkaloogie> bluefox83, it's not "gnome" it's "metacity"
[07:33] <ompaul> ubuntux1, you are going to get really objective advice here, if you take lpi 101 and 102 then you only need to do one more to get lpi103 be it ubuntu or some other linux version if you do rhce you are going to be able to apply that in exactly one place
[07:33] <ladydoor> bluefox83: gnome should have a "log out" button
[07:33] <richard> will my visioneer scanner work on ubuntu?
[07:33] <RMorris85> ladydoor, got any other cool commands for me?
[07:33] <Nullvector> kromel: fortunate for you. And yes, I agree that the future of the GPU manufactuer formerly known as ATI does hold some interest for me
[07:33] <ladydoor> RMorris85: no, lol
[07:33] <ladydoor> RMorris85: i've seen what you do with them
[07:33] <RMorris85> :-)
[07:33] <El_Che> probably the 1000th time asked, but someone has the url handy of the older xserver-xorg-core package so I can wget it and get out of the console?
[07:33] <bluefox83> ladydoor, don't want to log out..i should get a menu with a choice of WM's and i should be able to pick one to use and it shoudl automatically change to it..s'what every other distro has...
[07:34] <bluefox83> i should be able to change WM's without even stopping xchat
[07:34] <comtech> bluefox83, you are sounding like you're disappointed when you're just not listening to us
[07:34] <comtech> the functionality is there in full
[07:34] <kyja> what is wrong with my amarok??? :( I select my list of mp3;s and it goes down them like lighning does not play them and they all turn grey
[07:34] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: Well, i'm trying to set up a static IP address so i can port forward.
[07:34] <comtech> bluefox83, I've told you how twice already
[07:34] <kyja> its a new install.
[07:34] <comtech> kyja, the files are missing
[07:35] <comtech> kyja, or unreadable
[07:35] <kyja> hmmmm
[07:35] <longwave> bluefox83: you can change WM without stopping xchat; from a console type "killall metacity; enlightenment" (or whatever the e17 WM is called)
[07:35] <RMorris85> kyja needs some codecs
[07:35] <kyja> RMorris85, can you tell me the specific name to search in synaptic?
[07:36] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone have or know how to get mtp support with banshee? I purchased a Zen Vision:M yesterday, and gnomad2 sucks.
[07:36] <miked__> i removed the top panel from gnome and now when i minimize applications they disappear from the screen.  How can i make them use the bottom panel?
[07:36] <bluefox83> comtech, and i've told you twice already i don't want to log out just to change WM's
[07:36] <bluefox83> comtech, this is linux, not winblows, there's no reason for it
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: I dont see anything unusual in there..
[07:36] <longwave> bluefox83: who said anything about logging out?
[07:36] <ladydoor> bluefox83: oh, you mean you want enlightened gnome?
[07:36] <ladydoor> check this out:
[07:36] <ladydoor> bluefox83: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightened+gnome+ultimate+eyecandy
[07:37] <comtech> bluefox83,  you don't have to fucking logout fool
[07:37] <RMorris85> kyja... goto google and search for automatix or easyubuntu
[07:37] <Nullvector> Jack_Sparrow: didn't think you would. seems like I am stuck without my numeric pad for reasons beyond my control
[07:37] <ladydoor> bluefox:  check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightened+gnome+ultimate+eyecandy
[07:37] <POVaddct> ls
[07:37] <comtech> longwave just told you how to do it also
[07:37] <ompaul> comtech, you don't have to be abusive
[07:38] <Nullvector> Jack_Sparrow, is there a way to permantly use scroll lock? my scroll lock doesn't seem to function properly either.
[07:38] <Nullvector> ----***///+++
[07:38] <ubuntux1> ompaul: thx for ur suggestion...every suggestion counts..urs made a lot of sense to me..
[07:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: I am looking at Sakireth's problem at the moment
[07:39] <miked__> i removed my top panel and now my applications disappear when I minimize them, does anyone know how i can fix this
[07:39] <Nullvector> Jack_Sparrow: sure, no problem
[07:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Nullvector: You should be able to "Soft" lock the scroll lock button..
[07:40] <IndyBC> I use xmms. Do you recommend any better music player, and if yes, why?
[07:40] <ladydoor> !best
[07:40] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: are you working on a router?
[07:40] <weswh-> are there any music jukebox type programs that allow any of the apple file formats? (non-drm)...any hacks for letting you register your DRM..or load to your ipod? or is all of that pretty much out of the question
[07:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[07:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Bot is lagging today
[07:40] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: yeah.
[07:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: what router?
[07:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: I am thinking 192.168.0.1
[07:41] <kromel> or 1.1 =P  sorry, I'm bored.
[07:42] <RMorris85> using curse words in the ubuntu chat... oxymoron heh lol
[07:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: Did I lose you?
[07:44] <RMorris85> can i make it where it doesnt show people loggin in and out?
[07:45] <bluefox83> screw it i'll just log out..
[07:45] <RMorris85> that would be grrrreeeeeaaat right about now
[07:45] <pngwen> what would cause df to segfault?
[07:45] <AngryElf> guys, i've got proftp setup -- and i'm pretty sure that my client can connect, but when it goes to list the directory it doesn't work, any ideas?
[07:45] <Chousuke> ietty pit katsoa raweja.
[07:45] <knowledgEngi> hellp
[07:45] <knowledgEngi> hello
[07:45] <Chousuke> oops :/
[07:45] <Jack_Sparrow> AngryElf: permissions?
[07:45] <RMorris85> heeeeelllloooo
[07:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !ck
[07:46] <Chousuke> using esc as meta has some rather annoying side effects :P
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <knowledgEngi> the default video player of ubuntu cannot show . /home/user/Examples/Experience ubuntu.ogg
[07:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !cz
[07:46] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[07:46] <AngryElf> Jack_Sparrow: i'm not sure what they should be
[07:46] <knowledgEngi> why?
[07:46] <knowledgEngi> this is free format
[07:46] <kishore> how to install java
[07:46] <Ribs> knowledgEngi, works just fine here...
[07:46] <Jack_Sparrow> AngryElf: If you are sharing a folder it needs to have the permissions set
[07:47] <AngryElf> Jack_Sparrow: I logged in as my normal user via ftp -- i can access the files normally, i'm not sure why i should chance the perms
[07:48] <bkudria> I'm trying to get my audio setup working...i just did sudo m-a a-i alsa, and now i can't get any sound to work, but before, i could only get sound to work in my laptop's external speakers, even if there was somethign plugged into the headphone jack.  how do i get my sound working? any help appreciated!
[07:48] <Jack_Sparrow> AngryElf: Just making a suggestion.
[07:48] <Orvil> How do I allow users to mount with davfs? Keep getting "/usr/lib/mount.davfs-2.6: You must be member of group users" when I try to mount with out sudo.
[07:48] <RMorris85> http://xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png  ha ha ha ha ha
[07:48] <shawnr_> Anyone know a good 'free' file storage site?
[07:48] <RMorris85> shawnr_ goowy.com is what i use
[07:49] <ladydoor> !java > kishore
[07:49] <RMorris85> 2 gig email 1 gig files
[07:49] <Jack_Sparrow> AngryElf: I would set the permissions just to test it and set them back if it didnt change anything. But feel free to try anything else
[07:49] <shawnr_> RMorris85, how do you have flash 8 ?
[07:50] <kishore> javac
[07:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello ladydoor
[07:50] <kishore> javacompiler..
[07:50] <RMorris85> shawnr_ theres is ways around ti
[07:50] <shawnr_> wait... i got it
[07:51] <cello_rasp> can any brazilian tell me the output of `echo $LANGUAGE` please??
[07:52] <silentj> hello all
[07:52] <silentj> how is everyone?
[07:52] <sjoos> me is fine
[07:52] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone here know about libmtp/gnomad2/banshee with mtp support?
[07:52] <abhinay> when trying to install any package it is saying package is not availabe,  but is referred to by another package. the package is missing, has been obsoleted .... ? Any Suggestions ?
[07:52] <silentj> Can someone help me? I would like to change my come dir. for example my home directory is now /home/blue and I want it to be /home/red is there any way to do that?
[07:53] <mjg> Dapper Installation help needed. Fresh install Dapper 6.06.1, SATA 250GB disk. CD starts to boot then hangs on Uncompressing linux... OK, booting Kernel.
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> create user "red"
[07:53] <bkudria> I'm trying to get my audio setup working...i just did sudo m-a a-i alsa, and now i can't get any sound to work, but before, i could only get sound to work in my laptop's external speakers, even if there was somethign plugged into the headphone jack.  how do i get my sound working? any help appreciated!
[07:54] <richiefrich> bkudria u did what>   m-a a-i alsa ?
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> abhinay: You cant install any package in the repos?
[07:54] <Nullvector> mjg: bad cd possibly?
[07:54] <abhinay> Jack_Sparrow, Yes
[07:54] <mjg> NullV: I burned another. Same thing.
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> mjg: Does it get to the start/install screen?
[07:54] <mjg> Nullv: yes
[07:54] <richiefrich> bkudria did you by chance  --> alsaconf
[07:54] <bkudria> richiefrich: i ran it...it's short for module-assistant auto-install alsa ...it compiles the alsa module
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> mjg: try F6 there and one of these  Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off
[07:55] <bkudria> richiefrich: i didn't, let me try!
[07:55] <Nullvector> mjg: how long have you let it hang?
[07:55] <klassicd> ..
[07:55] <silentj> I have another question.. I have an external HD when I want to mount it I have to type sudo mount /media/sdb1 to mount it, I have a little disk mounter thing but whever I try to use it it says "only root can mount this drive" any idea how I can change it to allow me to mount it as a normal useR?
[07:55] <mjg> nullv: Pressed F6 and entered >Install acpi=ht noapic nolpic then I get Kernel panic - Not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs unknown block (8,3)
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> silentj: what is the format on that external drive
[07:55] <bkudria> richiefrich: err, i don't have anything called "alsaconf"
[07:56] <mjg> nullv: 10 mins
[07:56] <esc> silentj, you have to add you device to fstab
[07:56] <FRET> silentj, there are good reasons why only root has the right to mount filesystems
[07:56] <silentj> its vfat
[07:56] <silentj> yea i understand
[07:56] <vgoltser> I need to open port 21 ... how do I do it?
[07:56] <abhinay> Jack_Sparrow, same problem when trying to install every package
[07:56] <Nullvector> mjg: sorry, I have no idea
[07:56] <esc> do a man fstab
[07:56] <silentj> but the thing is why make a mounter and if it wont ever work
[07:56] <silentj> haha
[07:56] <mjg> nullv: thanks... me neither. lol
[07:56] <Jack_Sparrow> abhinay: How are you trying to instll things
[07:56] <richiefrich> bkudria u dont?
[07:57] <esc> silentj, you have to give ur user the right to mount that drive
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> vgoltser: firestarter
[07:57] <bkudria> richiefrich: hold on, i'm installing some alsa packages...
[07:57] <FRET> vgoltser,
[07:57] <FRET> sorry
[07:57] <vgoltser> where do I go to open ports in it though?
[07:57] <richiefrich> bkudria alsa-utils
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> or manually .. iptables
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !iptables
[07:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[07:57] <esc> silentj, you have to edit /etc/fstab, try "man fstab" to find out how to do this
[07:57] <abhinay> Jack_Sparrow, Iam using apt-get
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> abhinay: Have you tried synaptic?
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> aptitude
[07:58] <silentj> esc I know how to do this.
[07:58] <esc> silentj, have you tried to do so?
[07:58] <FRET> vgoltser, it's always a good idea not to open a port to the whole world, but only allowing access for certain machines
[07:58] <silentj> why is everyone so man happy? in the time it took you to say RTFM you could have said sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:58] <silentj> ya know?
[07:58] <silentj> yea i did
[07:59] <silentj> but it kept saying that the mount point didnt exist
[07:59] <Jack_Sparrow> silentj: post your fstab to the pastebin
[07:59] <bkudria> richiefrich: i have that package installed, but i don't have alsaconf!
[07:59] <silentj> !pastebin
[07:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:59] <vgoltser> fret, I need it temporarily, I know the problems and I am behind a college firewall, too
[07:59] <ladydoor> who was asking how to change your home dir?
[08:00] <richiefrich> bkudria then ubuntu has it in another package.. and i dont know what one
[08:00] <FRET> vgoltser, then get familiar with iptables :-)
[08:00] <bkudria> richiefrich: well, i'll try and find it, thanks
[08:00] <FRET> vgoltser, or just stop iptables completely for a short time
[08:01] <richiefrich> !alsa
[08:01] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:01] <bkudria> richiefrich: it really doesn't seem to exist: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=alsaconf&searchmode=filelist&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[08:01] <bkudria> thanks!
[08:01] <richiefrich> np man
[08:01] <RMorris85> !someone
[08:01] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:01] <AngryElf> where can i find a list of ubuntu's default groups along with what they are all intended for?
[08:01] <bkudria> richiefrich: technically, i'm on kubuntu...
[08:02] <richiefrich> EXEC  -o ls -la /usr/sbin/alsaconf
[08:02] <silentj> Anyone know where to get decent games? Is there a repo that has good games???
[08:02] <richiefrich> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 34843 2006-08-02 05:26 /usr/sbin/alsaconf
[08:02] <richiefrich> bkudria u see i have that here in gentoo land
[08:02] <bkudria> richiefrich: well, this is #ubuntu :)
[08:02] <richiefrich> i know
[08:03] <gary4gar> how to set permissions for k3b?
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> silentj: Saurebratten is good, you can use loki installers for some XP games with linux versions...
[08:03] <RMorris85> cough cough #kubuntu cough cough
[08:03] <aburton> I have an athlon 3800+ w/ 2GB memory, two 74GB non-RAID hd's and a (regular) pci video card all on an MSI k8n platinum dualbooting windows and 64 bit desktop. When I'm in windows, it's fine, but when I'm in ubuntu, it freezes whenever I try to play music, or view pictures or transfer a lot of stuff.
[08:04] <richiefrich> bkudria but you should have that app
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Did you go to k3b settings, enter your password and set the permissions and apply in there?
[08:04] <bkudria> RMorris85: is that to me?  this doesn't seem like a gnome vs. kde problem to me...
[08:04] <silentj> Jack_Sparrow  what is Saurebratten? and what is Loki??
[08:04] <RMorris85> aburton, u have too much power
[08:05] <RMorris85> bkudria, no i just like putting my buck o five in
[08:05] <aburton> RMorris85: what do you mean?
[08:05] <exs> GTK gnutella does not work for me.. It installs fine, and then I click it.. it starts to load but never comes up.
[08:05] <Jack_Sparrow> sauerbratten is 3d game... loki installers are installers... google for link, I am not on my main pc
[08:05] <RMorris85> its a buck o five with inflation
 i did but did'nt undersatnd anything!
[08:05] <bkudria> richiefrich: well, for some reason i don't
[08:05] <bkudria> richiefrich: and i have no clue where to find it
[08:06] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Sorry, someone else may be able to help you.
[08:06] <NullVector> 463546546546546546846 YAY!!!
[08:06] <NullVector> my keypad works
[08:06] <gary4gar> np bye
[08:06] <Jack_Sparrow> YEa
[08:06] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: what did you do
[08:06] <aburton> I've been living off of my laptop for the last two months, and I'm running out of hard drive space quickly. I'd like to get back on my desktop, but it keeps freezing
[08:06] <aburton> OH
[08:06] <richiefrich> bkudria let me google
[08:06] <aburton> this is important:
[08:06] <bluefox83> left mouse button does not raise the applications list like it's suppose to in enlightenment :(
[08:06] <aburton> when it freezes, the monitor stops getting signal
[08:07] <NullVector> Jack_Sparrow: seems it was a xgl/compiz problem, after I realized my caps lock function wasn't working properly either I did a search on teh forums and found that it is
[08:07] <aburton> it's like the computer is off, but it isn't
[08:07] <Jack_Sparrow> cool.
[08:07] <NullVector> Jack_Sparrow: caused by this file gdm.conf-custom
[08:07] <silentj> Jack_Sparrow, I want to enable all the good repos but I am not sure which they are... I mean which repo has Mplayer and VLC ect?? As well as different games and good apps?
[08:07] <npster> What is the GDM theme format ?
[08:08] <w30> aburton, my onboard nvidia video card did that too, untill I took out the standard kernel nivida 2 d drivers and put in the closed source nvidia 3d drivers
[08:08] <bruker> I have a question, what do I have to write into the conf file /etc/X11/no to make it possible to reach symbols under a button that usually is reached by typing alt gr (right alt), with the left buttons ctrl + alt?
[08:08] <ladydoor> bluefox:  #enlightenment
[08:08] <aburton> w30: you think it's the video card?
[08:08] <AlexThunder> Hello, I'm having troubles moving files into my usr folder. When I try to move them there it says that I don't have permission to place them here. Can anybody tell me how to do this?
[08:08] <Jack_Sparrow> silentj: just enable multiverse and universe...
[08:08] <silentj> I did I think
[08:08] <Jack_Sparrow> silentj: Avoid adding others unless you are feeling lucky and not on your main pc
[08:08] <silentj> but I dont see any of the good stuff
[08:09] <w30> aburton, do you have a nvidia or ATI 3d  on board video?
[08:09] <ladydoor> AlexThunder: you need to be root to move things in to /usr. however, you should probably move anything you want into /usr/local instead (you still need to be root)
[08:09] <mihkel> I have problem, with installing skype
[08:09] <aburton> not on board
[08:09] <ladydoor> AlexThunder: so you need to sudo
[08:09] <aburton> it's a PCI card
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> silentj: Google what I suggested
[08:09] <mihkel> problem is this:
[08:09] <mihkel> root@ubuntu:/home/mihkel# sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb
[08:09] <mihkel> dpkg: error processing skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb (--install):
[08:09] <mihkel>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:09] <mihkel> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:09] <mihkel>  skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb
[08:09] <w30> aburton, what card?
[08:09] <RMorris85> !pastebin
[08:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:10] <mihkel> skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb
[08:10] <mihkel>  is on my desktop
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> mihkel: So .. it cant find skype
[08:10] <aburton> it's a radeon 7000
[08:10] <aburton> haha
[08:10] <aburton> it's soo old
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ati
[08:10] <mihkel> but its on my desktop
[08:10] <aburton> yeah
[08:10] <aburton> sorry
[08:10] <silentj> Jack_Sparrow under System > Admin > Software Properties  right? This is where I enable Universe and Multi Universe??
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> silentj: I did it in synaptic...
[08:10] <w30> aburton, try the ATI drivers from ATI
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[08:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:11] <aburton> thanks
[08:11] <aburton> I'm getting a new card in a few days
[08:11] <aburton> but
[08:11] <w30> aburton, do you have a ATI Radeon 7000 card?
[08:11] <aburton> yeah
[08:12] <richard> any ubuntu experts around?
[08:12] <aburton> but why would that freeze the computer when I'm listening to music?
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[08:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:12] <sorush20> hi guys is there anyway that I could update my dmix?
[08:12] <sorush20> is there any way?
[08:12] <aburton> or when I'm transfering files?
[08:12] <mihkel> What should i do
[08:12] <sorush20> I have been given a diagnosis that my dmix is defective
[08:12] <bkudria> richiefrich: have you found anything, possibly?
[08:13] <Jukru> mihkel: change the current working directory to your desktop directory
[08:13] <richiefrich> bkudria did you run  sudo alsaconf
[08:13] <treat1> Hi, i can't set cpu scaling below 1.2 ghz i know it can go lower i have had it at 200mhz when i was using Fedora
[08:13] <treat1> any ideas?
[08:13] <Jukru> mihkel: and then execute dpkg -i skype*.deb
[08:13] <w30> aburton, I donno, something to do with memory card memory usage maybe
[08:13] <richard> anyone tried using this http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/kernel/kernel.html
[08:13] <mihkel> Jukru, i dont understan nofting
[08:13] <richiefrich> bkudria since i dont use sudo i never type it in here
[08:13] <NullVector> anyone know where I find the plugin settings in firefox?
[08:13] <Jukru> mihkel: ok, open the terminal
[08:13] <mihkel> how gan i cange the current working desktop thinf
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> mihkel: Did you download it to your desktop ?
[08:13] <richiefrich> bkudria do u have  alsa-utils ?
[08:13] <mihkel> i think so
[08:14] <ladydoor> mihkel: cd new/wd
[08:14] <ericz> nullvector, Tools > Extensions
[08:14] <bkudria> richiefrich: i have alsa-utils installed, yes
[08:14] <mihkel> ok root termina opened
[08:14] <richiefrich> bkudria try   sudo alsaconf
[08:14] <exs> Gtk-Gnutella does not launch for me. How can I make it work?
[08:14] <elmargol> Is there way to force a dsp device?
[08:14] <Jukru> mihkel: type: cd ~/Desktop
[08:14] <bkudria> richiefrich: but trying to run alsaconf tells me "sudo: alsaconf: command not found"
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: what error do you get?
[08:14] <AlexThunder> ladydoor: how do I become root?
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[08:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:15] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  None.. it starts loading then stops
[08:15] <elmargol> I have 2 soundcards here. one of my stupid games allways select /dev/dsp and not /dev/dsp1
[08:15] <ladydoor> !sudo > AlexThunder
[08:15] <richiefrich> bkudria  alsa-tools
[08:15] <richiefrich> bkudria  so u have that ?
[08:15] <mihkel> root@ubuntu:/home/mihkel# cd ~/Desktop
[08:15] <mihkel> bash: cd: /root/Desktop: No such file or directory
[08:15] <mihkel> root@ubuntu:/home/mihkel#
[08:15] <ladydoor> AlexThunder: but seriously, you probably shouldn't add anything to /usr by hand
[08:15] <bkudria> richiefrich: that is installed too
[08:15] <ladydoor> AlexThunder: what're you trying to do?
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: were there any errors during the install, missing libs etc
[08:15] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  None.
[08:15] <Jukru> mihkel: You need to enter your user Desktop directory, not the root one
[08:15] <richiefrich> bkudria  alsa-base
[08:16] <aburton> !ati
[08:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:16] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: I'd remove it and reinstall.. it works well
[08:16] <mihkel> ok silli me XD
[08:16] <Jukru> mihkel: so type: cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[08:16] <bkudria> richiefrich: also installed
[08:16] <NullVector> ericz: I am reffing to the plugin preferences where youc an choose which plugins for firefox to use by defualt
[08:17] <matt__> .
[08:17] <mihkel> jukru done
[08:17] <bkudria> richiefrich: contents of alsa-utils: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=alsa-utils&version=dapper&arch=i386
[08:17] <aburton> the ati driver doesn't support the radeon 7000
[08:17] <silentj> Does anyone know how to enable the repsotories so I can download ALL the files? eg. Mplayer ect?
[08:17] <Jukru> mihkel: if you are root type: dpkg -i skype*.deb
[08:17] <tayirvadai_vikra> has anyone succeeded in seting up infrared
[08:18] <tayirvadai_vikra> my irport seems to be not configured
[08:18] <tayirvadai_vikra> can anyone help me
[08:18] <bkudria> silentj: try source-o-matic
[08:18] <richiefrich> bkudria dude thats weird.. idk now  thats so strange
[08:18] <harisund> Can somebody give me a brief description of the differences between ext3 and ext2? Just wanted to know.. besides, there seems to be a mke2fs but not mke3fs, so how do I create an ext3 partition?
[08:19] <bkudria> richiefrich: well, i guess i should try another general query
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> tayirvadai_vikra: I think that requires a kernel compile.. from what I have been told.. not personal experience
[08:19] <mjr> harisund, ext3 is ext2 plus journaling and a couple of other improvements
[08:19] <silentj> bkudria what is source-o-matic?
[08:19] <richiefrich> bkudria i just never seen a distro not have that
[08:19] <npster> I am having troubles installing themes. Can someone help ?
[08:19] <mjr> harisund, mke2fs -j (journal) will make an ext3 fs
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !source-o-matic
[08:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:19] <bkudria> harisund: ext3 has a journal...create an ext3 fs with mke2fs, then add a journal with tune2fs...
[08:19] <jpjacobs> !source-o-matic
[08:19] <bkudria> silentj: google it
[08:19] <LazyAngel> anyone know how i convert latex to pdf? tex2pdf?
[08:19] <harisund> ah thanks mjr. I will have a look.
[08:20] <jpjacobs> LazyAngel, use pdflatex
[08:20] <bkudria> richiefrich: i agree, it is wierd
[08:20] <bluefox83> how does one go about fixinf a mouse button in enlightenment?
[08:20] <richiefrich> u can also make and ext3 with  mkfs.ext3
[08:20] <bkudria> does ubuntu have the alsaconf utility ?
[08:20] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  reinstalled it completely... no help.
[08:20] <bluefox83> *fixing
[08:20] <mihkel> jukru lets go private
[08:20] <tuxtux> ciao
[08:20] <harisund> richiefrich: ok thanks. Will have a look :)
[08:20] <bluefox83> bkudria, no :(
[08:20] <silentj> man whatever happened to help thy neighbor? everyone is afraid to type
[08:20] <aburton> is there somewhere else I should ask this question?
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: how are you installing it?
[08:21] <LazyAngel> jpjacobs: thanks
[08:21] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  synaptic
[08:21] <w30> harisund, see if you have the command mkfs.ext3
[08:21] <npster> Is there a way to install themes via terminal ?
[08:21] <harisund> w30 I don't have immediate access to my Linux machine. I will figure out a way to get it once I reach home .
[08:21] <bkudria> bluefox83: why not?  my sound doesn't work
[08:21] <laOal> quit
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: odd that you get no errors and it only starts to load up..  and reinstall didnt help.. so someone else may have an answer.
[08:22] <bluefox83> bkudria, i have no idea..you might try poking around though...
[08:22] <Jukru> mihkel: I think that we can't...for pm user(s) must be registered
[08:22] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  ok thanks
[08:22] <mihkel> Ok see this root@ubuntu:/home/mihkel# cd /home/mihkel/Desktop
[08:22] <mihkel> root@ubuntu:/home/mihkel/Desktop# dpkg -i skype*.deb
[08:22] <mihkel> Selecting previously deselected package skype.
[08:22] <mihkel> (Reading database ... 56925 files and directories currently installed.)
[08:22] <mihkel> Unpacking skype (from skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb) ...
[08:22] <mihkel> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
[08:22] <mihkel>  skype depends on libqt3-mt | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:
[08:22] <mihkel>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[08:22] <tayirvadai_vikra> my ifconfig says there is irdevice
[08:22] <mihkel>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[08:22] <mihkel> dpkg: error processing skype (--install):
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: why terminal?
[08:22] <mihkel>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[08:22] <mihkel> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:22] <mihkel>  skype
[08:22] <RMorris85> AHH!
[08:22] <mihkel> root@ubuntu:/home/mihkel/Desktop#
[08:22] <RMorris85> !pastebin
[08:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: I just drag and drop the tar onto the theme manager
[08:22] <bkudria> I'm trying to get my audio setup working...i just did sudo m-a a-i alsa, and now i can't get any sound to work, but before, i could only get sound to work in my laptop's external speakers, even if there was somethign plugged into the headphone jack.  how do i get my sound working? any help appreciated!
[08:22] <Warbo> !info tor edgy
[08:22] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.22-1 (edgy), package size 746 kB, installed size 1516 kB
[08:23] <richiefrich> bkudria  http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-alsa-devel/2006-April/003208.html
[08:23] <w30> harisund, typing mkfs and then hitting tab gives me all the file system options :=)
[08:23] <richiefrich> bkudria u can get it from the debian repo
[08:23] <bkudria> richiefrich: i think i'll try that
[08:24] <bkudria> richiefrich: thanks!
[08:24] <mihkel> well?
[08:24] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: The file format is invalid
[08:24] <Answer> How can I delete a file that begins with two dashes?  I tried putting it in quotes, and using backslash as escape characters.
[08:24] <estagio> estagio
[08:25] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: About 10% of those do not work in Ubuntu or another disrto.. try another.
[08:25] <Jukru> mihkel: install all dependencies
[08:25] <richiefrich> bkudria  Ubuntu has very poor support for older hardware. Old ISA sound cards are not detected, and Ubuntu devs refuse to include alsaconf, which normally works very well.   <-- from --> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/08/1611229/
[08:26] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: OK
[08:26] <w30> Answer, copy and paste the file name into your rm cammand string :=) and let your computer do the proper escape keys
[08:26] <fallingdutch> how can i start the base configuration of ubuntu?
[08:26] <richiefrich> bkudria so grab it from debian
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: Wish I had a better answer... If none work then there is a system problem on your end that needs to be looked at..
[08:26] <richiefrich> bkudria  then u can just --> dpkg -i
[08:26] <bkudria> richiefrich: will do...but this is very new hardware
[08:27] <Answer> w30: I tried that, and it says "unrecognized option --..."  It is interpreting the dashes at the beginning of the filename as command line options.  I tried single and double quotes too
[08:27] <richiefrich> bkudria what  card ?
[08:27] <mihkel> Sorry, i dont understand you
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: I tried 4 out of the top 10 list that didnt work
[08:27] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: Name a theme that you used and it worked
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: can you accept dcc?
[08:27] <mihkel> Ok, i be back.
[08:27] <scuff> Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu using LVM partitions?
[08:27] <mihkel> B"YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee
[08:28] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: I think so
[08:28] <Answer> w30: Oh I found it.. rm -- then the filename.  yay manpage
[08:28] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: Send me and we'll see
[08:28] <bkudria> richiefrich: and nvidia card
[08:28] <bkudria> richiefrich: the one from the debian repo wants a whole bunch of dependencies...including libc6...
[08:29] <richiefrich> bkudria thats up to you
[08:29] <w30> Answer, try backquotes
[08:29] <richiefrich> bkudria  but i see no need to remove that app
[08:29] <fittizio> Hi
[08:29] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: Where does it saves files ?
[08:29] <bkudria> richiefrich: i don't think i want to screw over my install that much :)
[08:29] <fittizio> Can Anyone help me with the protocol smb on firefox?
[08:29] <fittizio> It doesn't work
[08:30] <finalbeta> !multiverse
[08:30] <bkudria> richiefrich: it's a card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia] , device 0: HDA Generic [HDA Generic] 
[08:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:30] <bkudria> richiefrich: yes, i agree, it is a stupid decision
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: there are a couple themes packed inside that tar.  If you just drop my tar onto theme manager it will not work
[08:30] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: I am receiving
[08:30] <bheron> How can someone propose a new ubuntu distro?
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: see my notes
[08:31] <npster> ok
[08:31] <fittizio> Can anyone help me with smb protocol and firefox, please?
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !smb
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <RMorris85> !someone
[08:32] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:32] <farshim> I think I have found a serious-ish bug in ubuntu what can I do?
[08:32] <jbroome> farshim: check out launchpad and see if it has already been reported
[08:32] <jbroome> !launchpad
[08:32] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[08:32] <vgoltser> can I get the ping utility to look up DNS info through WINS so I could ping computers getting their names through WINS
[08:32] <fittizio> ubotu, ok
[08:32] <richiefrich> upstart ???
[08:32] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: Again the file format is invalid
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <bkudria> help! i'm trying to get my sound working...aplay -l lists my card, and all my volumes are turned up, but i hear no sound!
[08:33] <richiefrich> any info on that from anyone ?
[08:33] <RMorris85> ubotu where da weed at?
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where da weed at? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: Doesn't matter
[08:33] <weswh-> i have an external hard drive that was formatted with MACOSX fs (used to be system drive on a mac that died) - any idea if ubuntu would be able to read the contents?
[08:33] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: mcity clearlooks dosent work either?
[08:33] <fittizio> when I write smb:// in the address field of firefox , firefox shows me "smb ptocol not registered"
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: there are three themes in that folder I sent
[08:34] <farshim> jbroome, This is quite a specific bug: the same compiled program works on Redhat Kernel 2.9.6 but Seg faults on ubunutu 2.6.15
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> farshim: what program?
[08:34] <farshim> Jack_Sparrow: I have written a (simple) program in C
[08:35] <farshim> Jack_Sparrow: uses GMP to calculate a large number
[08:35] <bluefox83> how do i fic my left mouse button in enlightenment?
[08:35] <bluefox83> *fix
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> farshim: Then post it on launchpad...
[08:35] <ladydoor> bluefox83: #enlightenment
[08:35] <bluefox83> ladydoor, nobody home
[08:35] <ladydoor> bluefox83: oh.
[08:36] <graveson> what do i use do i format a disk that needs o have data copied to it and read from in windows
[08:36] <aburton> I have an athlon 3800+ w/ 2GB memory, two 74GB non-RAID hd's and an (old) ati radeon 7000 pci video card all on an MSI k8n platinum dualbooting windows and 64 bit desktop. When I'm in windows, it's fine, but when I'm in ubuntu, it freezes whenever I try to play music, or view pictures or transfer a lot of stuff. When it freezes, the screen turns off as if the computer were turned off, but the fans on the machine are still going, and sometimes
[08:36] <aburton> I can ssh into it. Keep in mind that I don't have to be doing anything graphically intensive for it to freeze, so I don't know if it's the gfx card or not. I actually thought it was the southbridge, but as I said, it works fine in windows
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefox83: it isnt an issue with Ubuntu
[08:36] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone here know how to rip from a dvd with mencoder?
[08:36] <andrer> has anyone here ever got a apache to authenticate with AD by using mod_auth_ldap? I am in need of help :(
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> graveson: I use fat32
[08:36] <bluefox83> Jack_Sparrow, picky picky
[08:37] <pianoboy3333> graveson: yea, use fat32
[08:37] <bluefox83> Jack_Sparrow, i would think you would offer support for any software found in the repositories
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefox83: go to microsoft and tell them you are having a problem with photoshop and see how far you get
[08:38] <nubuntu_> hello
[08:38] <nubuntu_> i need some help
[08:38] <graveson> what utility can i use to format it in ubuntu
[08:38] <nubuntu_> i cant install gksudo
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> graveson: gparted
[08:38] <bluefox83> Jack_Sparrow, first off...i don't do microshit, second, microshit is not open source, so they don't have that "we'll help as best we can" attitude. this is a linux channel..i should be able to expect some help on this despite the fact that it's not entirely a ubuntu issue
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> nubuntu_: you dont install gksudo
[08:39] <graveson> thanks all
[08:39] <ladydoor> bluefox83: this channel is all volunteers
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> nubuntu_: gksudo is used to have root/superuser access in other gui programs
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> nubuntu_: like gksudo nautilus
[08:40] <NullVector> anyone know where i can view a streaming wmv file to see if I have this codec installed correctly?
[08:40] <bkudria> help! i'm trying to get my sound working...aplay -l lists my card, and all my volumes are turned up, but i hear no sound!
 i dont have gksudo installed
[08:40] <vgoltser> so, I need to selectively open ports on my system to specific IP addresses (mask support is very nice here)
[08:40] <ladydoor> bluefox83: this is free software you're using. it's nobody's *responsibility* to answer to you. if somebody helps you, it's because they know how and *feel like it*. this isn't big business, and there is no market share
[08:40] <vgoltser> nubuntu, yes you do
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> nubuntu_: if you type gksudo nautilus what happens
[08:40] <NemesisUK> NullVector, try at dl.tv
 dont have nautilus, but when i run gksudo i get command not found
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> nubuntu_: HAve you used sudo to do much on your system
 ?
[08:41] <ladydoor> bluefox83: this channel is made up of volunteers, not paid tech support staff. you *can* pay for tech support if you want, but this isn't the place for that
[08:41] <ozzloy> where is a guide for setting up a bugzilla server on ubuntu?
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> nubuntu_: what os are you running
[08:41] <bluefox83> ladydoor, i didn't say it was..all i was getting at is, just because it isn't directly a ubuntu issue, doesn't mean you can't try to offer some help..
 nubuntu
[08:41] <richiefrich> bkudria i was told this --> if it doesn't work out of the box, it's a bug. alsaconf(1) should not be necessary to get audible sound OOtB.
[08:41] <bluefox83> ladydoor, i've been using linux for a few years now, and i have always appreciated every bit of help i get
[08:41] <ladydoor> bluefox83: if there isn't anybody who happens to know the solution, you may feel ignored.
[08:41] <ladydoor> bluefox83: ah, sweet then
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> what's the problem?
[08:42] <richiefrich> bkudria kick it in #alsa
[08:42] <bkudria> richiefrich: well, the external speakers worked out of the box!
[08:42] <bkudria> richiefrich: but then i installed and compiled the alsa modules
[08:42] <djallikat{SM}> anyone feel like joining me in some head scratching over an install problem?  i'm tired of gettin splinters under my nails here... :p
[08:42] <ladydoor> bluefox83: i mean, the reason i won't help you isn't out of spite, it's just that i used enlightenment for exactly one day and the quit
[08:42] <NullVector> NemesisUK: dl.tv works fine but not so sure that is a WMV file?
[08:42] <bluefox83> ladydoor, no no..if no one know then no one knows..that's alright..but turning me away simply because it's not directly a ubuntu issue is a bit rude..just say you don't know..s'all i ask
[08:42] <ladydoor> bluefox83: so i don't know
[08:42] <W9ZEB-Lars> how do I do the dapper version of "sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:42] <richiefrich> bkudria what modules?
[08:42] <ladydoor> bluefox83: sorry
[08:42] <crimsun> bkudria: if you didn't compile and install 1.0.12, then it's too old.
[08:42] <NemesisUK> NullVector, goto to the dload page there is a wmv there
[08:42] <richiefrich> bkudria didk you install alsa-driver ?
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> W9ZEB-Lars: what do you mean 'dapper version'? Its the same regardless of which version you are using.
[08:43] <ladydoor> bluefox83: i was only trying to direct you to a spot where people would be more likely to know :-/
[08:43] <bluefox83> ladydoor, don't be sorry, you didn't do anything wrong
[08:43] <bkudria> crimsun: i did "m-a a-i alsa"
[08:43] <Spec> djallikat{SM}: after getting splinters under your nails, i would not suggest scratching your head
[08:43] <crimsun> bkudria: keep in mind that we track the latest changes to the HDA drivers for dapper.
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> W9ZEB-Lars: only its linux-headers
[08:43] <djallikat{SM}> lol Spec
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefox83: 869 people should NOT have to tell you they dont know.
[08:43] <crimsun> bkudria: using which alsa-source package?
[08:43] <NemesisUK> NullVector, there is a link under the flash movie
[08:43] <misieq> how can evaluate regexp?
[08:43] <bluefox83> ladydoor, yes..YOU tried to help. Jack_Sparrow simply said it's not a ubuntu issue..which i do not appreciate..atleast say you don't know
[08:43] <W9ZEB-Lars> fyrestrtr: I get a Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[08:43] <bkudria> richiefrich: there is no such package
[08:43] <bkudria> crimsun: err, i have no idea
 so ?
[08:44] <ladydoor> !fingerpointing
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> W9ZEB-Lars: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fingerpointing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <crimsun> bkudria: if you use the one in dapper/universe, then it's too old. The in-kernel version is actually newer than what's in the repo.
[08:44] <richiefrich> bkudria then what do mean by the modules?
[08:44] <Jack_Sparrow> nubuntu_: I know nothing about nubuntu..
[08:44] <NullVector> ty, looks like I have it installed wrong then, I get audio, no video
[08:44] <bkudria> crimsun: currently installed, i have 1.0.10-4ubuntu4
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> bluefox83: there is #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of talk.
[08:44] <misieq> !regexp
[08:44] <crimsun> bkudria: that's too old.
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regexp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <W9ZEB-Lars> fyrestrtr: perfect, thank you.
[08:44] <djallikat{SM}> i've burned both the main install and alternate install cds, and tried both, both die partway into installs on a machine that was running SuSE slowly but useably without problems (until i killed the x-server permenantly and decided SuSE was too slow and killed the partition table)
[08:44] <bkudria> richiefrich: i ran "m-a a-i alsa" it's an nvidia thing
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> W9ZEB-Lars: no problem :)
[08:44] <bkudria> crimsun: so what should i do?
[08:44] <bluefox83> fyrestrtr, thanks..didn't know there was a ubuntu off-topic channel
[08:45] <crimsun> bkudria: the in-kernel version of alsa (alsa-kernel) is 1.0.12+hg
[08:45] <richiefrich> crimsun ok ty you can help bkudria  i see your a dev :P
 it doesnt have anything to do with it, its based on ubuntu and its using its repositorry and apt-get and everything is the same
[08:45] <crimsun> bkudria: revert to the version that's distributed with 2.6.15-26.46
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> djallikat{SM}: partway where?
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> bluefox83: the amount of help people get is partly based on their attitude..
[08:45] <bluefox83> Jack_Sparrow, and yours, don't forget that
[08:45] <bluefox83> Jack_Sparrow, i always appreciate any help given
[08:46] <djallikat{SM}> fyrestrtr: the text based installs fall over trying to get a DHCP from my router, the graphical install gets as far as formatting before dying...
[08:46] <redsoxfan90> hello
[08:46] <redsoxfan90> i have a question
[08:46] <bkudria> crimsun: again, how?  sound worked on my external speakers (but not the headphone jack) so i ran sudo m-a a-i alsa ...and everything broke...how do i fix it?
[08:46] <redsoxfan90> i have a ati graphic driver and when i play bzflag i get a delay
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> djallikat{SM}: what kind of machine is it?
[08:46] <rukuartic> Does anyone know how I could set up "profiles" on my laptop (eg, docked with a different resolution and without cpu frequency scaling) and not docked?
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> !ask
[08:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:46] <redsoxfan90> when i move the mouse up it takes a second or so to kick in
[08:46] <bkudria> crimsun: will newer drivers necessarily help?
[08:46] <redsoxfan90> but i get enough fps
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: I think that stuff is in power management.
[08:47] <redsoxfan90> anyone know?
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> redsoxfan90: how much ram on your machine, and how much ram on the video card?
[08:47] <crimsun> bkudria: unmount the volatile stuff (see the output from ``mount''), remove alsa-modules\*, alsa-source\*, linux-image-$(uname -r), then --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r)
[08:47] <Spec> do different resolutions on an lcd screen take up different amounts of power?
[08:47] <djallikat{SM}> fyrestrtr: Dual celeron 400, 384mb, agp TnT2, 27gig hdd, compaq branded PCI network, Advansys scsi running a cd burner out of the arc, ide 56xcdrom, SB-live sound, USB mouse
[08:47] <crimsun> bkudria: newer drivers should give you audible sound but not necessarily out of the headphone jack
[08:47] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: not quite... that only controls when to suspend and what to do if the laptop lid's closed on AC or DC
[08:47] <crimsun> (in which case it's a jack sense/pin issue)
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> djallikat{SM}: are you using the burner or the ide to boot?
[08:48] <bkudria> crimsun: ok...by volatile, you mean the stuff that's not actually the drive?
[08:48] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: If i could tell whether or not my laptop's on AC or DC throguh something in /proc I could write a script...
[08:48] <misieq> how can evaluate regexp?
[08:48] <elo> hi all
[08:48] <ladydoor> hello
[08:48] <elo> have a question :)
[08:48] <crimsun> bkudria: no, I mean l-r-m, which you can see from the output of ``mount'', which I mentioned above
[08:48] <rukuartic> misieq: expr $(regexp)
[08:48] <monteiro> my microphone doesnt work, i'm using an intel sound card, anyone knows how to solve it ?
[08:48] <Spec> rukuartic: check in /proc/acpi
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: well certainly there is a way to detect it because the battery monitors knows about it.
[08:48] <NullVector> other than the w32 codecs is there anything else I need to view WMV files that are streamed?
[08:48] <djallikat{SM}> fyrestrtr: Tried both, they will both boot the graphic install to desktop, but fail if asked to verify the disk
[08:48] <crimsun> monteiro: which codec?
[08:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[08:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:49] <redsoxfan90> fyrestrtr: i have 512 memory
[08:49] <redsoxfan90> fyrestrtr:  please check your pm
[08:49] <rukuartic> Spec: Thanks
[08:49] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: :P I figured
[08:49] <bkudria> crimsun: oh! ok, i'll try that !
[08:49] <vgoltser> does samba have a ping utility?
[08:49] <vgoltser> bluefox, what was your problem again?
[08:49] <monteiro> crimsun : snd-hda-intel
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> djallikat{SM}: hrmm, okay. What is the status of the disk? Does it have anything on there. Do the alternate install, give your card a static IP address, then try to verify the partition table on the disk.
[08:50] <NullVector> Jack_Sparrow: been there done that. seems that something is amiss somehwere though cause wmv files still do display, I only get audio
[08:50] <crimsun> monteiro: head -1 /proc/asound/card0/codec*
[08:50] <djallikat{SM}> fyrestrtr: how do i skip the automatic DHCP call?
[08:50] <redsoxfan90> fyrestrtr: ????????///
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> vgoltser: what do you mean? You can use the non-samba ping utility. Ping is ping.
[08:50] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: Oh, I found it. Its just a simple text file with on-line/off-line. Now how would I set a script to run when that changes?
[08:50] <redsoxfan90> you asked a question so i told you
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> redsoxfan90: wait please.
[08:50] <redsoxfan90> ok
[08:50] <monteiro> crimsun : Codec: Generic 14f1 ID 5047
[08:50] <fallingdutch> are there any good howtos of installing ubuntu using debootstrap?
[08:50] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: what was that link to the wmv file.. let me see if it works here.
[08:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[08:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:51] <crimsun> monteiro: pastebin your ``amixer'' and tell me the url, please.
[08:51] <puppydoe> yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> another satisfied user
[08:51] <NullVector> jack_Sparrow: http://zdpub.vo.llnwd.net/o2/dltv/episode89/dl.tv.089.wmv
[08:51] <barry> Hello, all. Can anybody provide a quick command to display the size of all partitions on the hard drive on which Linux is installed?
[08:52] <vgoltser> barry, it is something simple, but it escapes me atm ... hold on
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> redsoxfan90: what kind of card is it, and how much video ram do you have?
[08:52] <vgoltser> barry, you can do mount for starters :)
[08:52] <apokryphos-> barry: df -h
[08:52] <ucordes> Jack_Sparrow: you allways here, keepin up the good help when i join. i really appreciate that
[08:52] <monteiro> crimsun : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21997
[08:52] <bkudria> crimsun: if i remove the linux-image package and then reinstall it, i'll be ok, right?  it has a very scary warning!
[08:52] <Spec> rukuartic: do you have anything in /proc/acpi/power_resource?
[08:53] <barry> apokryphos-, Thanks!
[08:53] <flake> does anyone know if i can setup a gateway 7320 laptop with a bootable usb flash drive?
[08:53] <crimsun> bkudria: yes. If you want to be absolutely paranoid, do this first: apt-get -d --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[08:53] <barry> vgolster, apokryphos- beat you to it.
[08:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ucordes: I do try...  sometimes wine"ers get me irritated
[08:53] <bkudria> crimsun: what does that do?
[08:53] <redsoxfan90> fyrestrtr: i have a ati
[08:53] <redsoxfan90> and  i dont know how much ram it has
[08:53] <vgoltser> df ... there we go
[08:54] <crimsun> bkudria: it downloads the binary package for the kernel and various kernel modules
[08:54] <djallikat{SM}> what's the chipset redsoxfan90?
[08:54] <Spec> barry: you could do: cd /; du -ckhs *  ... but that'll just show you the size of every folder below where you sit (/)
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: I got a few seconds of vid and audio...
[08:54] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: Whoops, man acpid. Thanks for your help! X-x
[08:54] <vgoltser> now, is there a samba ping utility that will try to look up the names on a WINS server?
[08:54] <NullVector> I just get audio
[08:54] <bkudria> crimsun: oh, ok...thanks
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: what is your video card?
[08:54] <redsoxfan90> i have no clue what my chip set it
[08:54] <Matt123> red
[08:54] <Matt123> oops
[08:54] <redsoxfan90> how can i check all of this stuff?
[08:54] <azureal> hi, i just compiled 2.6.17.11 kernel, but there appears to be no /lib/firmware/2.6.17.11 directory...where do i put the firmware for my wireless card?!
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: ah, yes there is, a second please.
[08:55] <vgoltser> windows can find servers through \\servername ... and the servername is registered with WINS server, not DNS :(
[08:55] <NullVector> jack_Sparrow: Nvidia 6600
[08:55] <birdfish> Okay, I'm going to attempt to install my nvidia drivers.  But I need to know how to get out of x and then back into it first
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> same here
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> pci-e
[08:55] <Warbo> !info tor
[08:55] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[08:55] <NullVector> jack_Sparrow: google video works fine. youtube works alright
[08:55] <birdfish> Anyone know the commands to jump from different runlevels off the top of their heads?
[08:55] <vgoltser> birdfish, ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:55] <redsoxfan90> how can i check my chipset?
[08:55] <djallikat{SM}> modprobe it redsoxfan90?
[08:55] <birdfish> vgoltser: And then after I reboot I'll be back in x?
[08:55] <NullVector> jack_Sparrow: unfortunatly mine is agp8x
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: gimme a sec..
[08:55] <redsoxfan90> in terminal?
[08:56] <redsoxfan90> modprobe dont work in terminal
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> redsoxfan90: lspci -vv | grep VGA will tell you.
[08:56] <vgoltser> birdfish should be, if not startx
[08:56] <birdfish> vgoltser: thanks dude :)
[08:56] <Spec> birdfish: ctrl+alt+backspace will kill X, and then probably restart it, if you want it to stay stopped you'll want to do: /etc/init.d/gdm stop, to start it back up when you're done installing the driver, do: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:56] <redsoxfan90> fyrestrtr: you want me to put that in pastebin?
[08:56] <bkudria> crimsun: ok, i'm rebooting, and hoping it works...but if it isn't, i'm coming back here :)
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> redsoxfan90: just tell me the ram amount :)
[08:57] <birdfish> Spec: Thanks man.  I thought there was something more than ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:57] <birdfish> Back in a few guys
[08:57] <ladydoor> bkudria: oh no, what shall we do if you *come back???*
[08:57] <redsoxfan90> ping- SERR- FastB2B-
[08:57] <redsoxfan90>         Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Step
[08:57] <redsoxfan90> that doesnt say ram
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> redsoxfan90: actually, yeah, pastebin it.
[08:57] <bkudria> ladydoor: tremble in fear! bwa ha ha
[08:57] <Spec> hah
[08:57] <djallikat{SM}> redsoxfan90: easier question - does your videocard have a heatsink on the main chip?
[08:57] <flake> does the usb flash drive need to be present before it will show as bootable by the bios, if it supports that option?
[08:57] <monteiro> crimsun : any ideas about the microphone?
[08:57] <crimsun> monteiro: is recording audible after adjusting using a mixer that uses the oss api?
[08:57] <crimsun> monteiro: e.g., aumix
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> redsoxfan90: pastebin the output of lspci -v
[08:58] <redsoxfan90> no clue heatsink
[08:58] <QQQOmniD> Question about zsnes!
[08:58] <djallikat{SM}> ok... just thinking that very few old cards had a lump of metal stuck to the chip to stop it melting..
[08:58] <redsoxfan90> i pastebin this
[08:59] <redsoxfan90> http://pastebin.com/779096
[08:59] <monteiro> crimsun : no
[08:59] <redsoxfan90> there 1 link
[08:59] <crimsun> monteiro: try that, then.
[08:59] <redsoxfan90> i have another 1 coming
[08:59] <ladydoor> !anyone
[08:59] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:59] <crimsun> monteiro: it's also quite probable that the necessary pins for your codec haven't been prodded
[08:59] <randomtime> help plz... My usb won't work on linux... it works on my laptop but not on the one i want to install... i have tried multiple devices... can anyone help me?
[08:59] <flake> umm.... huh?
[08:59] <PingunZ> where is the splash (after gdm ) and usplash( bootscreen ) located ?
[08:59] <azureal> so does anyone have experience w/ 2.6.17?
[09:00] <redsoxfan90> http://pastebin.com/779098
[09:00] <djallikat{SM}> redsoxfan90: the important bit is: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
[09:00] <monteiro> crimsun : so i've to wait ?
[09:00] <ladydoor> azureal: i think most people end up sticking with the default ubuntu kernel (2.6.15). sorry
[09:00] <PingunZ> azureal, I have 2.6.17 in edgy ..
[09:00] <flake> i dont know randomtime, on my regular pc i could not get it to boot on my third internal harddrive, had to set up partition on first harddrive
[09:00] <redsoxfan90> theres the other link
[09:00] <redsoxfan90> that one is more important
[09:00] <Jack_Sparrow> randomtime: HAve you tried setting the usb in bios/cmos to 1.1 and not 2.0?
[09:00] <flake> so usb i have no clue
[09:00] <Khamael> can I make evolution copy this weeks schedule to the next few weeks? I`ve just began school, and I want to have classes in evolution and my pda.
[09:00] <randomtime> i'll try that...
[09:00] <PingunZ> !splash
[09:00] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[09:01] <PingunZ> !usplash
[09:01] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:01] <PingunZ> Where is the Login-Splash screen located ?
[09:01] <redsoxfan90> did those 2 links help?
[09:01] <PingunZ> redsoxfan90, no :)
[09:02] <redsoxfan90> what do i need?
[09:02] <azureal> PingunZ, do you happen to know why there is no /lib/firmware/2.6.17.11 directory (so that i can put my wireless card firmware) ?
[09:02] <redsoxfan90> they said commands
[09:02] <redsoxfan90> so i pasted them...
[09:02] <mwe> PingunZ: /usr/share/gdm/themes/
[09:02] <djallikat{SM}> well.. it told me what your card is redsoxfan90, an ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
[09:02] <Shin_Gouki> hi! i got questions regarding upstart, just therorie but i like to discuss, anyone here?
[09:02] <redsoxfan90> ok
[09:02] <PingunZ> oh redsoxfan90 ty
[09:02] <redsoxfan90> thats helpfulll
[09:03] <NullVector> should I have teh gstreamer0.10-good repo installed?
[09:03] <Spec> azathoth: /lib/hotplug/firmware ?
[09:03] <djallikat{SM}> redsoxfan90: Since it's coming up as PCIE, it's a nice new PCI-Express card, should have lots of memory on it and be fast as all getout
[09:03] <randomtime> jack sparrow I'm on CMOS how would I change usb version?
[09:03] <PingunZ> mwe, that is the GDM, I'l talking about the splash screen ( after the gdm )
[09:04] <redsoxfan90> then how come its not working well?
[09:04] <redsoxfan90> its delayed
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> randomtime: there is usually an otion for 1.1 or 2 or off
[09:05] <djallikat{SM}> redsoxfan90: you probably need to check the x-server knows to talk to the card as an ATI and not use the generic svga libs
[09:05] <redsoxfan90> xorg-driver-fglrx, and installed it. I then changed the line in my xorg.conf file from Driver "ati" (the open source ATI driver) to Driver "fglrx" (the closed source ATI proprietary driver), added Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, AUTO"
[09:05] <bkudria> crimsun: it fixed it!  thanks!
[09:05] <redsoxfan90> i did this and it didnt help
[09:05] <randomtime> jack sparrow I'm on CMOS how would I change usb version?
[09:05] <crimsun> bkudria: np
[09:05] <redsoxfan90> djallikat{SM}: how do i do this?
[09:05] <randomtime> ok sorry for posting again
[09:05] <bkudria> crimsun: but, the headphone jack still doesn't work...the sound continues to come out of the speakers
[09:05] <bkudria> crimsun: it works in windows, though...
[09:05] <bkudria> crimsun: any idea?
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> randomtime: go through the different menu options and look for it. bios are not standard so it is up to yo to find it
[09:06] <flake> does a usb flash drive need to be in before you have the option to boot from it in the bios?
[09:06] <ladydoor> bkudria: do this in a terminal:  alsamixer
[09:06] <djallikat{SM}> redsoxfan90: don't ask me, i don't know much about the current version either... but it may be worthwhile going into the machine bios and seeing if you can set the video card to use a fixed amount of video ram
[09:06] <Spec> flake: try it and find out
[09:06] <flake> trying to decide if i can warrant a usb purchase, dont have one to try with
[09:06] <crimsun> bkudria: can't confirm anything until the changes I've pushed to our kernel lead are merged and rolled out in a new kernel.
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> bkudria: are you sure you are not plugging into the microphone jack
[09:06] <bkudria> Jack_Sparrow: very sure
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> bkudria: had to ask
[09:06] <flake> will they take back usb drives once they've been used
[09:06] <kromel> Anyone with exp with a USB Headset w/Mic?
[09:06] <Shin_Gouki> hello! i got questions regarding upstart, just theory but i like to discuss, anyone here?
[09:06] <Spec> flake: your motherboard might not support booting from usb, why don't you just google for your motherboard and see if it does or not?
[09:06] <ladydoor> bkudria: then press n a couple times to get over to the second box at the bottom that says headhpone
[09:07] <redsoxfan90> ok
[09:07] <redsoxfan90> this sounds very hard
[09:07] <bkudria> ladydoor: and...?  everything is turned up
[09:07] <ladydoor> bkudria: does it have "MM" in the box above it? you should be on the "headphone jack sense" box
[09:07] <bkudria> crimsun: err, what?  it's a known problem?
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> flake: Will who take them back.. depends on where you got it.. ebay.. not likely, frys.. yes
[09:07] <flake> i did, all i got were the accessories available for it still
[09:07] <flake> i'll look again
[09:07] <ladydoor> bkudria: which won't have a bar over it, just a box
[09:07] <flake> it's a gateway 7320, think its phoenix
[09:07] <flake> bios
[09:08] <crimsun> bkudria: of course.
[09:08] <randomtime> jack sparrrow: lol u've got alot on ur hands! I'm booting now :D
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[09:08] <bkudria> ladydoor: well, first of all, i have no alsamixer command, just alsamixergui
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> And I NEED lunch
[09:08] <datatec> wonder if anyone could help me with a permissions issue on my ubuntu server (software install related)
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I must eat... back when I am done
[09:08] <crimsun> bkudria: unless you've mucked with our alsa-utils package, you _should_ have /usr/bin/alsamixer .
[09:09] <bkudria> crimsun: oh.  when might the new ubuntu kernel be released?  would it still be 2.6.15?
[09:09] <ladydoor> bkudria: ok...is there a "headphone jack sense" spot? otherwise, do apt-get install alsamixer
[09:09] <flake> sorry to ask such dumb questions, i'll go figure it out
[09:09] <ladydoor> bkudria: basically, make sure that "headphone jack sense" isn't muted
[09:09] <bkudria> ladydoor: aah, i had to install alsa-utils, crimsun had me purge a bunch of stuff
[09:09] <crimsun> bkudria: no idea, I'm not the kernel lead. Yes, it will still be 2.6.15, though the version number doesn't mean a whole lot.
[09:09] <OisacX> hi
[09:09] <azureal> so anyone know the firmware directory for 2.6.17?
[09:09] <bkudria> ladydoor: nothing is muted
[09:10] <crimsun> azureal: /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/
[09:10] <bkudria> crimsun: so who should i ask?
[09:10] <ladydoor> bkudria: oh. hmmm. that worked on my computer
[09:10] <ladydoor> :-/
[09:10] <bkudria> ladydoor: but thanks for helping!
[09:10] <OisacX> anyone tried k9copy here?<
[09:10] <crimsun> bkudria: no one, because that's not a decision that's set in stone.
[09:10] <azureal> crimsun, 2.6.17 does not exist there, that's why i asked
[09:10] <ladydoor> bkudria: np...good luck
[09:10] <theblue> Hi all.
[09:10] <crimsun> ladydoor: not all codecs enumerate an explict jack sense control element, particularly the HDA ones.
[09:10] <crimsun> azureal: so create it.
[09:11] <theblue> What's the difference between Ubuntu 6.06 and Ubuntu 6.06.1?
[09:11] <bkudria> crimsun: gah!  at least an estimate?
[09:11] <bkudria> theblue: a lot
[09:11] <crimsun> theblue: security updates and bugfixes
[09:11] <bkudria> theblue: read the changelog
[09:11] <theblue> Ok.
[09:11] <crimsun> bkudria: "some time".
[09:11] <ladydoor> crimsun: eh?
[09:12] <bkudria> crimsun: thanks!  you're so helpful!  </sarcasm> :)
[09:12] <crimsun> ladydoor: the various 'jack sense' control elements don't exist for all codcs.
[09:12] <crimsun> codecs.
[09:12] <theblue> Where's the changelog, then?
[09:12] <puff> Afternoon, I was looking for the package for the perl-imagemagick bindings... I remember installing it in the past as a .deb instead of via MCPAN.
[09:12] <crimsun> bkudria: I'm being as factual as I can be. No one knows for sure.
[09:12] <puff> But aptitude can't seem to find it.
[09:12] <bkudria> crimsun: ok, fine.  i'll keep my fingers crossed
[09:12] <Shin_Gouki> hello!
[09:12] <Shin_Gouki> I got questions regarding upstart, just theory but i like to discuss, anyone here?
[09:12] <crimsun> bkudria: if it's any indicator, usually there's a release every month or so
[09:13] <bkudria> crimsun: when was the last release?
[09:13] <ladydoor> crimsun:  so because not all codices support it, i shouldn't suggest it as a *possible* fix, though it might help an individual user?
[09:13] <crimsun> bkudria: you can find that in your changelog :)
[09:13] <weswh-> i have an external hard drive that was formatted with MACOSX fs (used to be system drive on a mac that died) - any idea if ubuntu would be able to read the contents? and if so, how to mount it?
[09:13] <bkudria> crimsun: cruel and unusual punishment!
[09:13] <keitaro> can anyone help me? For some reason my audio is higher pitched and plays considerably faster than what it was before. Anyone know how to change this back? It just started happening today
[09:14] <bkudria> crimsun: anyway, thanks!  i have to go
[09:14] <OisacX> anyone using k9copy and who can clic on keep menus?
[09:14] <crimsun> ladydoor: you should probably poll the user first to see if (s)he sees that actual control element, not to mention actually enabling said control element(s) on certain ac'97 codecs causes sound to be utterly inaudible.
[09:14] <Dysk> keitaro, Sounds like a problem with the sample rate...
[09:14] <ladydoor> crimsun: aha
[09:14] <NemesisUK> OisacX, works here
[09:14] <Syman> !identd
[09:14] <crimsun> ladydoor: examples are the analog devices 1981b family
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <ladydoor> crimsun: well, thanks for letting  me know :-)
[09:14] <Syman> !ident
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <ladydoor> !ident2
[09:14] <ubotu> ident2: An advanced ident daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.05-1 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 88 kB
[09:15] <randomtime> jack sparrow: It didn't work :(
[09:15] <Syman> ladydoor thanks :P
[09:15] <ladydoor> Syman: np
[09:15] <OisacX> NemesisUK :  I've installed using synaptic, but everytimes I clic to keep menu, it search on DVD and crash out to desktop
[09:15] <wweasel> I just compiled and installed amsn and I am getting an error "Error in startup script: couldn't read file "amsn": no such file or directory" - why?
[09:15] <evil-tux> brb
[09:16] <roboa1983> hi, i have a 3Com 3c905-TX/TX-M Tornado rev 78 ethernet controller, and yesterday, after we changed from a DHCP to a static IP, it doesn't want to detect the internet anymore. Do you guys have any pointeres?
[09:16] <Spec> roboa1983: run 'mii-tool'
[09:16] <Spec> roboa1983: and see what it says
[09:16] <NemesisUK> OisacX, have you tried uninstalling it complete;y and then reinstalling it, or run it from the cmd line to see what errors it puts out
[09:16] <OisacX> commandline would be good.. brb
[09:16] <roboa1983> i've tried dhclient, and it is always sleeping
[09:16] <Shin_Gouki> hey! I got questions regarding upstart(init.d replacement), just theory but i like to discuss, anyone here?
[09:16] <roboa1983> also ifdown and ifup
[09:17] <sladen> Shin_Gouki: /query keybuk
[09:17] <Mastastealth> !VPN
[09:17] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[09:17] <Shin_Gouki> sladen, thank u very much!
[09:18] <nickspoon> !bluetooth
[09:18] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:19] <wweasel> Hey. I have a short question that I know is silly and easy to fix, I just don't know how. I just compiled and installed amsn from source, and when I run "amsn" i get "Error in startup script: couldn't read file "amsn": no such file or directory". If I navigate to /usr/bin and run the same command, it works though.
[09:19] <ladydoor> Shin_Gouki: is there a #upstart?
[09:19] <Mastastealth> hye guys, i installed ubuntu for my cousin. he likes it but needs some help setting some stuff up. Unfortunately, his router is a bit screwy. the only way for me to VNC to him is via an invite from him. But there is no invite in Ubuntu. is there invite on ssh or a way he can connec to me, so i can connect back? :-X
[09:19] <ZombieKing> hello!!    wheres the difference between blocking and rejecting a protocol ?
[09:20] <ladydoor> wweasel: it installed in /usr/bin when compiling from source? shouldn't it have gone to /usr/local/bin?
[09:20] <OisacX> libdvdread: Invalid title IFO (VTS_02_0.IFO).
[09:20] <OisacX> damn
[09:20] <ladydoor> wweasel: did you have an ubuntu version of amsn already installed?
[09:20] <santa99> good evening
[09:20] <santa99> i would like to unpack a password secured rar archive how can i manage this ?
[09:20] <ladydoor> !rar
[09:20] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:20] <wweasel> ladydoor: No, I specified /usr/bin, and no, I uninstalled the one from the repos first.
[09:21] <santa99> ladydoor, rar can't handle password secured rar files
[09:21] <ladydoor> !unrar
[09:21] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:21] <wweasel> ladydoor: It works perfectly if I specify manually the path the the program. But, how do I make a simple command work, without having to specify where it is.
[09:22] <ladydoor> wweasel: that's very odd, because it should be in your $PATH anyway
[09:22] <ZombieKing> hello!!    wheres the difference between blocking and rejecting a protocol ?
[09:22] <ladydoor> wweasel: *shrug*
[09:22] <PingunZ> Where is the splash screen located ?
[09:22] <wweasel> ladydoor: It should. Can I add it to my $PATH manually?
[09:22] <ladydoor> wweasel: i mean, /usr/bin should already be in your $PATH, otherwise your system would break
[09:23] <ladydoor> wweasel: i suppose you could create a launcher with the full path to it
[09:23] <NickRivers> PingunZ: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[09:23] <mqueiros> join #gentoo-sparc
[09:23] <wweasel> ladydoor: Yes, that works. Just wondering how I can fix it so it works as it should. :P
[09:23] <mqueiros> sorry!
[09:23] <ladydoor> wweasel: maybe your system wouldn't break, but it would be no good. ummm, i really don't know, to be honest.
[09:24] <ladydoor> wweasel: are you starting it from a terminal or from a graphikal app?
[09:24] <wweasel> ladydoor: terminal
[09:24] <crocd> has anybody installed mrtg and snmp on a desktop system before?
[09:24] <ladydoor> wweasel: weird. do echo $PATH
[09:24] <ladydoor> crocd: probably
[09:24] <wweasel> ladydoor: /usr/bin is there.
[09:24] <el_tac0> what group do I need to add a user to so i can use su?
[09:24] <ladydoor> wweasel: does it work to start it from the gnome runner?
[09:25] <ladydoor> wweasel: (alt+f2)
[09:25] <crocd> ladydoor: snmp has been installed but it seems lacking for some reason. do you need any other packages?
[09:25] <niklas_e> if you put your computer in waitstate (I think it is hibernate or suspend it)  and tries to resume, nothing happens, it tries to read from harddisk, nothing shows on screen, I have resume2=swap:/dev/sda5 and added the line in init (initrd) is there anything missing or isn't it saving the info before it goes in the waitstate?
[09:25] <roboa1983> Spec: it says eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[09:25] <ladydoor> crocd: *i* haven't. i just said that somebody probably has, somewhere
[09:25] <ladydoor> crocd: b/c it's better to ask your real question first :-)
[09:25] <Spec> roboa1983: ok, so you switched it from dhcp to static and it doesn't work?
[09:26] <wweasel> ladydoor: no. "wish8.5 amsn" doesn't, "wish8.5 /usr/bin/amsn" does.
[09:26] <Spec> roboa1983: does dhcp still work if you switch it back?
[09:26] <ladydoor> wweasel: what's this wish8.5 business?
[09:26] <crocd> ladydoor: kind of has a tree ever fallen int hte woods kindof answer :)
[09:26] <wweasel> ladydoor: development version of tcl/tk, to enable antialiasing.
[09:26] <theine> Hi, could my a Dapper user please tell me the output of "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf"?
[09:26] <crocd> ladydoor: it looks like you need snmp and snmpd
[09:26] <ladydoor> crocd: lol
[09:26] <ladydoor> wweasel: oh.
[09:26] <roboa1983> Spec: yes, they set up a static ip address for me, here at the lab and afterwards there was no connection afterwards. I tried the same address on my laptop and it all works out fine
[09:27] <crocd> brb
[09:27] <ladydoor> wweasel: what if you did wish8.5 ; amsn ?
[09:27] <Spec> roboa1983: you're setting the netmask and broadcast correctly?
[09:27] <Spec> roboa1983: and the default gateway?
[09:27] <theine> please, anybody, ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[09:27] <djacobs> Good afternoon
[09:27] <roboa1983> Spec: it seems to work fine now, for some reason
[09:27] <wweasel> ladydoor: Doesn't work.
[09:28] <Spec> oh, so it's working off the static ip?
[09:28] <MrZaius> can someone dcc me the default sources.list for dapper?
[09:28] <Spec> !easysource
[09:28] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:28] <Spec> MrZaius: ^^
[09:28] <JairunCaloth> I'm having trouble getting sound working properly. I think I've completly buggered my driver up because now I have no sound at all
[09:28] <Khamael> How can I copy one week to another in evolution?
[09:28] <roboa1983> Spec: yeah, i don't suppose the mii-tool was the solution, was it?
[09:28] <Spec> roboa1983: nope, mii-tool just checks for network connectivity and speed negotiations
[09:29] <theine> sigh
[09:29] <djacobs> I have a vanilla debian server I'd like to switch to Ubuntu. Two questions 1) is FTP/non-CD install supported by Ubuntu? 2) Is it possible to just change my debian sources list to an ubuntu sources list?
[09:29] <iddo333> !w32codecs
[09:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:29] <MrZaius> Spec: I've got one generated by that site that I want to replace with the default
[09:29] <Spec> !install
[09:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:29] <nickspoon> odd.
[09:29] <Jack_Sparrow> theine:
[09:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[09:29] <Jack_Sparrow> [12:27]  <djacobs> Good afternoon
[09:29] <Jack_Sparrow> SORRY
[09:29] <roboa1983> Spec: well, thanks a lot, maybe it was just a tantrum
[09:29] <mzelem> could someone help me with a printer problem?
[09:29] <AlienX> djacobs, do not do a dist-upgrade or you'll break your box. I think there is a net install of ubuntu but I'm not entirely sure of the process. Check the wiki
[09:30] <djacobs> Thanks ubotu.
[09:30] <ladydoor> wweasel: weird...
[09:30] <nickspoon> I can't connect over bluetooth with hidd but I can with hcitool.
[09:30] <djacobs> I've read those pages, but it doesn't appear to illustrate how to install ubuntu w/o access to the CD drive.
[09:30] <theine> Jack_Sparrow: i'd like to know where /etc/resolv.conf points to
[09:30] <MrZaius> again, does anyone still have a default sources.list that they can dcc my way?
[09:30] <JairunCaloth> how do I install ALSA from the repos?
[09:31] <NemesisUK> theine, it doesnt point anywhere its a config file
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> theine: 68.94.156.1
[09:31] <ladydoor> MrZaius: please see < ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:31] <theine> NemesisUK: well, it used to be a symlink, but i've accidentely deleted it
[09:31] <Spec> djacobs: how do you want to install?
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> theine: and 157.1
[09:31] <ladydoor> MrZaius: somebody called on ubotu so that you would see that
[09:31] <Spec> djacobs: over the network via floppies? usb? harddrive?
[09:32] <keitaro> Is there anyway to configure only OSS playback?
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !unstall
[09:32] <theine> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, but i don't need to know which dns server you're using
[09:32] <djacobs> Thanks Spec it's a remote server (hosted at servermatrix)
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:32] <randomtime> jacksparrow: sorry i've been away! (about usb...) My usb still dosn't seem to work... anything else i can do... I have tried other versions but they fail as well
[09:32] <theine> NemesisUK: could you please do "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" in a terminal?
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> theine: then I dont understand the question..
[09:32] <NemesisUK> theine, yup np
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Still trying to eat..
[09:32] <Spec> djacobs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[09:33] <theine> Jack_Sparrow: that's ok
[09:33] <djacobs> Thanks Spec.
[09:33] <NemesisUK> theine, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48 2006-08-29 18:05 /etc/resolv.conf
[09:33] <djacobs> Spec, in those instructions I se:   sudo cp -av /media/cdrom0/install/netboot/* /var/lib/tftpboot/
[09:33] <theine> NemesisUK: hmm, ok
[09:34] <theine> NemesisUK: you're running Dapper, right?
[09:34] <djacobs> Is there a way to do this without downloading all the packages in one shot?
[09:34] <NemesisUK> theine, yeah I am
[09:34] <djacobs> I want something like Red Hat's FTP install.
[09:34] <theine> NemesisUK: strange, but thanks
[09:34] <NemesisUK> np
[09:34] <MrZaius> ladydoor: again, I'm trying to replace a sources.list generated by the source-o-matic
[09:34] <NemesisUK> theine, just create the file
[09:35] <NemesisUK> and put your nameservers in it
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> MrZaius: do you just need to know where to put the new source file?
[09:35] <ladydoor> !paste
[09:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:35] <roboa1983> it is really appreciated Kromel and Spec, it was, as it often is with ubuntu magic that solved the problem, and just waiting a little bit
[09:36] <roboa1983> bye
[09:36] <theine> NemesisUK: still, i'd like to restore the original state
[09:36] <DJAdmiral> Can somebody help me out please? I'm having trouble with installing VMWare Player
[09:36] <MrZaius> Jack_Sparrow: I've been using debian-related distros off and on for ~10 years
[09:36] <Spec> !xmms
[09:36] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:36] <MrZaius> I know how to run apt
[09:36] <theine> is /etc/resolv.conf a symlink on anybody's Dapper system in here?
[09:36] <Spec> !info xmms
[09:36] <MrZaius> I'm just trying to find a copy of the original sources.list
[09:36] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[09:36] <keitaro> DJAdmiral,  whatsup
[09:37] <DJAdmiral> I have a WinMe ISO that I had created from my windoze disc and an appropriate vmx file
[09:37] <seby57> can I install ubuntu AND Windows at the same time??
[09:37] <Spec> C:\
[09:37] <Spec> whoops :-/
[09:37] <pontifex> MrZaius: if you move your sources.list out the way and then run apt-setup won't that generate one for you?
[09:37] <NickRivers> seby57: at the same time? no... on the same box? yes
[09:37] <DJAdmiral> lemme pastebein what happens during an attempted install of vmware-player
[09:37] <erUSUL> seby57: did you mean in the same disc?
[09:37] <DJAdmiral> !pastebin
[09:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:37] <keitaro> alrighty
[09:38] <MrZaius> pontifex: if I had apt-setup
[09:38] <pontifex> MrZaius: thought everyone did
[09:38] <djacobs> I'm not sure netboot is going to work.
[09:38] <djacobs> Is there no easy upgrade path from Debian to Dapper Drake?
[09:38] <pontifex> MrZaius: ooo, you're right
[09:38] <MrZaius> but the file's missing
[09:38] <pontifex> djacobs: no
[09:38] <seby57> I mean if I can decide to run Windows OR Ubuntu
[09:38] <pontifex> MrZaius: what? your sources.list?
[09:38] <djacobs> Thanks. Simply changing sources.list will cause disaster?
[09:38] <MrZaius> no, apt-setup
[09:38] <pontifex> djacobs: likely, yes
[09:39] <Spec> seby57: if you wait a bit you will eventually be able to
[09:39] <pontifex> MrZaius: ok, so you just want a vanilla sources.list?
[09:39] <djacobs> Pontifex, thanks.
[09:39] <MrZaius> usr/sbin/apt-setup shows up in the slocate db, but not in the realworld/ls
[09:39] <MrZaius> yeah
[09:39] <MrZaius> that's all I need
[09:39] <ladydoor> MrZaius: ok, see here
[09:39] <ladydoor> MrZaius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21998
[09:39] <Spec> seby57: i heard microsoft is going to support open standards for hypervising, which is running two OSes on the same hardware at the same time, sharing resources.
[09:39] <ladydoor> MrZaius: i commented out anything that's not included with the default sources.list
[09:39] <Lilandra> hi
[09:39] <MrZaius> awesome.  thanks!
[09:39] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21999 <-- install log
[09:39] <RMorris85> hellllo lilandra
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Spec: I would never trust it
[09:39] <ladydoor> MrZaius: don't uncomment the cipherpunk packages, as they no longer exist
[09:40] <theine> MrZaius: this will get you started: "echo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:40] <erUSUL> seby57: yes at boot time
[09:40] <Spec> Jack_Sparrow: as long as linux is the controlling host i don't see why it'd be bad
[09:40] <ladydoor> MrZaius: and use plf if you happen to *need* one of their packages
[09:40] <cica> hi folks
[09:40] <seby57> Sorry if I didn't explained correctly: I mean If I can decide during the booting up to run windows or ubuntu.
[09:40] <cica> can anyone recommend a good bit torrent client?
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Spec: Do you really think windows will allow another os to control the host?
[09:40] <Spec> seby57: that's what grub does
[09:40] <DJAdmiral> seby57: Yes you can
[09:40] <pontifex> seby57: yes, grub does that
[09:40] <Spec> Jack_Sparrow: if it's open standards, then yes
[09:40] <DJAdmiral> cica: Bittornado never failed me
[09:41] <seby57> Ok, thank you
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Spec: this is also offtopic.. so I will not continue this discussion..
[09:41] <DJAdmiral> seby57: but be sure you install windoze first, then ubuntu.
[09:41] <pontifex> Jack_Sparrow: windows won't be able to "control" it if it's a true hypervisor
[09:41] <pontifex> assuming windows is a guest
[09:41] <cica> DJAdmiral: thanks... is there others as well??
[09:41] <square1> hello everyone
[09:41] <square1> how can i turn my ubuntu ISO8859?
[09:41] <MrZaius> ouch!
[09:41] <JairunCaloth> can somone help me with alsa please...
[09:41] <DJAdmiral> cica: quite a few - but I find Bittornado the best
[09:41] <MrZaius> ladydoor: thanks
[09:41] <cica> hi squirrel
[09:41] <ladydoor> !anyone
[09:41] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:41] <MrZaius> that worked great
[09:41] <pontifex> square1: dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[09:41] <ladydoor> MrZaius: np
[09:41] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: what do you need?
[09:42] <MrZaius> now upgrading ~900 packages instead of the ~40 in universe
[09:42] <cica> DJAdmiral: thanks :-)
[09:42] <DJAdmiral> cica: no problemo
[09:42] <pontifex> square1: sorry, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[09:42] <JairunCaloth> I am digging myself farther and farther into things not working I think
[09:42] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: you there?
[09:42] <keitaro> DJAdmiral,  hmm yea
[09:42] <EVRAMP> hello, is there someone using SGS gallery script from sourceforge? pls where is the header of sites? i need to change encoding. thanx
[09:42] <JairunCaloth> I have a relitivly new install of dapper
[09:42] <keitaro> looking up a few things
[09:42] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: okay.
[09:43] <AlienX> hey trappist, are you around/
[09:43] <pontifex> JairunCaloth: what's wrong?
[09:43] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: 6.06 or 6.06.1?
[09:43] <keitaro> DJAdmiral,  have you seen this : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[09:43] <trappist> AlienX: pong
[09:43] <JairunCaloth> eh... I"m not sure crimsun
[09:43] <RMorris85> who do i wanna smackk....
[09:43] <JairunCaloth> I have lost all sound
[09:43] <AlienX> trappist, :) any news on hte .deb?
[09:43] <square1> pontifex: it doesn't ask me the encoding, just runs all UTF installed :(
[09:43] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: checking.
[09:43] <JairunCaloth> I think I've messed up my driver trying to fix it
[09:43] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: lsb_release -r
[09:43] <square1> in the previous ubuntu, your command worked, in dapper it stop working
[09:44] <RMorris85> Get ur typin together!
[09:44] <NullVector> anyone know where you select which plugins firefox uses?
[09:44] <pontifex> square1: it should let you reconfigure the locales to whatever you want
[09:44] <JairunCaloth> 6.06
[09:44] <DJAdmiral> !offtopic
[09:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:44] <djacobs> So, I have nothing to lose, so I am trying anyway.
[09:44] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'
[09:44] <djacobs> This is a vanilla debian box, I am just trying  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:44] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: i have read a similar article which addresses similar issues of dependancies
[09:44] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: i'll read through this one anyway
[09:44] <djacobs> Yes, I expect it to fail, but it will get me closer than the netboot.
[09:44] <killown> how I upgrade my linux ubuntu with apt-get?
[09:45] <madsen> how do i change to european charet in xubuntu? please help me
[09:45] <pontifex> ladydoor: I can't prv
[09:45] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: 2.6.15-26.46
[09:45] <madsen> *charset :)
[09:45] <erUSUL> killown: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:45] <keitaro> DJAdmiral, only thing i can think of would be the gcc or linux headers? Then again this guide is for vmware server, which is free and it worked for me
[09:45] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: ok, 6.06.1
[09:45] <JairunCaloth> Basicly I wanted to be able to have more than one source of sound at the same time
[09:45] <ladydoor> pontifex: did you read cryptonomicon recently, by any chancy?
[09:45] <cica> DJAdmiral: where does apt-get install bittornado by default?
[09:45] <ladydoor> *chance
[09:45] <keitaro> DJAdmiral, but other than that, i really have no idea with the vmware install failing
[09:45] <pontifex> ladydoor: i have it in my pile of books to read, not read it, why?
[09:46] <Spec> ladydoor: oo, oo, i have, i have.
[09:46] <pontifex> ladydoor: shall we take this to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[09:46] <JairunCaloth> and now I have no idea what's going on
[09:46] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: I got the gcc-4.0 and gcc-3.4 as well as the respecitve g++ and linux header packages
[09:46] <ladydoor> pontifex: your username is the codename for a cipher that's important to the book :-)
[09:46] <square1> pontifex: look pls http://pastebin.com/779138
[09:46] <pontifex> hah
[09:46] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: nothing's still working
[09:46] <wweasel> ladydoor: I figured out my problem.
[09:46] <pontifex> ladydoor: it's also my company name :)
[09:46] <ladydoor> wweasel: sweet! what was't?
[09:46] <DJAdmiral> cica: not sure
[09:46] <killown> thanks
[09:46] <ladydoor> pontifex: oh...
[09:46] <Spec> pontifex: based out of?
[09:46] <dougsko> hey guys, how can i see my clock speed? i use conky now, but need a way to check it via terminal
[09:46] <pontifex> Spec: UK
[09:46] <madsen> charset change in xfce to iso-8859-1  anyone ?
[09:46] <wweasel> ladydoor: It actually wasn't a problem, it was by design. wish8.5 runs whatever you give it in the current directory.
[09:47] <keitaro> DJAdmiral,  not sure then sorry
[09:47] <ladydoor> wweasel: oh! well, i'm glad you figured that out :-)
[09:47] <Spec> pontifex: where's your companie's webpage?
[09:47] <pontifex> Spec: hahaha, for what it's worth pontifex.ltd.uk :)
[09:47] <wweasel> ladydoor: Thanks for trying to help :)
[09:47] <keitaro> DJAdmiral,  is there a log somewhere
[09:47] <eljimbo> quick question, is there a command or shortcut to login via the terminal and not graphically?
[09:47] <datatec> DJAdmiral I had to download the headers then vmware player installed correctly. However I am a total nubie so perhaps something else I did caused it. However I know you have to rebuild the kernal to vmware player to work so I am fairly sure you need to download the headers
[09:47] <scuff> How do I get the Ubuntu installer to recognise my LVM partitions?
[09:47] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: I'm having a go at installing xinetd.
[09:47] <Spec> pontifex: hehe, it needs a little bit more black and some better shades of dark gray. maybe a little red.
[09:47] <JairunCaloth> pontifex: I have lost all sound
[09:48] <DJAdmiral> datatec: I already have the headers of my kernel version.
[09:48] <ladydoor> wweasel: np
[09:48] <DJAdmiral> datatec: It still doesn't work.
[09:48] <puff> eljimbo: Clarify your question?
[09:48] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: which driver are you using?
[09:48] <ladydoor> eljimbo: you need to turn off gdm at boot, like this:
[09:48] <pontifex> Spec: thanks :) will bear that in mind when I pay some web design fool to re-do it for me :)
[09:48] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: alsa
[09:48] <pontifex> (or download a drupal theme)
[09:48] <JairunCaloth> trying to anyways...
[09:48] <puff> dougsko:  look under /proc
[09:48] <ladydoor> eljimbo: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[09:48] <dougsko> puff: ok cool
[09:48] <ladydoor> eljimbo: and if you ever want it back, remember this command:
[09:48] <datatec> DJAdmiral  Sorry about that, unfortuantly thats about I know :(
[09:48] <ladydoor> sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults
[09:48] <sharperguy> should i use oss or alsa with gizmo?
[09:49] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: I tried to make sure it was installed properly and now it's completly screwed up
[09:49] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: no, I mean the actual driver. I know you're referring to alsa.
[09:49] <eljimbo> mmm is there any shortcut just to do it once?
[09:49] <ladydoor> eljimbo: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults
[09:49] <puff> eljimbo: That does it just once.
[09:49] <puff> eljimbo: Oh, you mean...
[09:49] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: intel8x0
[09:49] <randomtime> hi again... I need help still... jack sparrow has help me before but i havn't been able to finish the job... how do you change usb from 2.0 to 1.1 in the CMOS?
[09:49] <puff> eljimbo: There's really two variations on your question;  1) how do you start up the machine without starting X,
[09:50] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: hey wait... I forgot to export CC. Maybe If I do that it might work. Let me give it a shot
[09:50] <puff> eljimbo: 2) how do you log into the machine iwthout logging into X.
[09:50] <eljimbo> ok, yeah version 2
[09:50] <DJAdmiral> datatec: no problem - you tried even if you knew very little, and that's good! :)
[09:50] <eljimbo> like i can restart x by doing cntrl shift backspace?
[09:50] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: so no sound at all?
[09:50] <ladydoor> eljimbo: and, from X, control+alt+F[1-6]  will take you too a fullscreen terminal, but in my opinion it's better to use ratpoison for that (better text resolution)
[09:50] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: nothing in /proc/asound/cards ?
[09:50] <puff> eljimbo: What ladydoor said.
[09:50] <keitaro> DJAdmiral, are you running on dapper?
[09:50] <madman__> I have no sound. can not play any music with no player. I've googled and searched my ass off. any help ?
[09:51] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: it appears to be installed, but I"ve lost all sound
[09:51] <puff> eljimbo: It sounds like there's something oyu'r enot saying... What's the problem you're trying to solve?
[09:51] <NullVector> how do I change the application that firefox is attempting to use to open files
[09:51] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[09:51] <eljimbo> nice thanks puff and ladydoor
[09:51] <ladydoor> eljimbo: and C-A-F7 will take you back to X
[09:51] <eljimbo> thats what I was looking for
[09:51] <mckinnoj> Hey there, I guess I'll just jump in: Is it possible to get rhythmbox to play .m4a files in Ubuntu?
[09:51] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: yes
[09:51] <ladydoor> puff: a lot of people like to boot to a CLI. i do. *shrug*
[09:51] <mckinnoj> How would you go about doing that? I've insalled the packages listed on the official site regarding getting mp3s to work
[09:52] <eljimbo> Thanks, if you've got time for another question. Im trying to resize my ext3 partition, make it smaller to throw windows on
[09:52] <InnerF|RE> has anyone gotten a Hauppage PCI tuner card with remote to work with Ubuntu?
[09:52] <eljimbo> is the command interface for gparted good for that?
[09:52] <InnerF|RE> its WinTV
[09:52] <ladydoor> mckinnoj: there's a script to convert .m4a files to wav, and then you could convert them to ogg or mp3 (preferably ogg)
[09:53] <esc> how do i change the character set in ubuntu?
[09:53] <randomtime> hi again... I need help still... jack sparrow has help me before but i havn't been able to finish the job... how do you change usb from 2.0 to 1.1 in the CMOS?
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> eljimbo: fyi windows like to be the first os on the first partition...  also look at the bot into about !boot
[09:53] <kromel> Just making a comment here, but I'm just amazed at how well City of Heroes runs in Ubuntu/Cedega.
[09:53] <sharperguy> should i use oss or alsa with gizmo?
[09:53] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22000
[09:53] <mckinnoj> ladydoor: Yeah, I've heard about that.  I would like to avoid doing that if possible.  Is there a large quality loss in the conversion from wav to ogg?
[09:53] <[g2] > on dapper 6.06.1 LiveCD is there 1) way to pass a default screen resolution, 2) a way to tell shutdown to now check for removing the CD ? TIA
[09:53] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: no. darn. luck.
[09:54] <JairunCaloth> WoW runs extremely well too in wine kromel
[09:54] <eljimbo> yeah, i've done it before with windows second, figured i'd try
[09:54] <magneticubuntu> hi guys
[09:54] <Icare> hi there
[09:54] <randomtime> hi
[09:54] <magneticubuntu> I'm building IVTV for Unbunt
[09:54] <debnub> Hi there
[09:54] <jrib> mckinnoj: yes it is possible (since mine can play them).  I'm not sure of the exact package though.  Have you isntalled all of the stuff help.ubuntu.com and the restricted wiki suggests?
[09:54] <magneticubuntu> and cant locate the hotplug firware directory...
[09:54] <Icare> i have a little bug with ubuntu
[09:54] <Icare> i have installed ubuntu on a external drive
[09:54] <magneticubuntu> Where is Hotplug please? i dont have it in etc
[09:55] <madman__> how do i get the sound card working using ubuntu 6.06 ?
[09:55] <keitaro> DJAdmiral,  i doubt it would help, but maybe try vmware server?
[09:55] <Icare> and i cant upgrade my universe and multiverse sources
[09:55] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: first, try: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[09:55] <mckinnoj> jrib: I don't think I've checked out the restricted wiki yet.  Thanks, I'll give that a look
[09:55] <ladydoor> mckinnoj: ogg is generally very high quality, better than mp3
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> madman__: start by telling people what sound card you have.
[09:55] <ladydoor> mckinnoj: i haven't had a problem
[09:55] <bruenig> ogg is really good
[09:55] <jrib> !multimedia > mckinnoj
[09:55] <seby57> to decide if I want to run windows or ubuntu on star up, should I use grub 2 or grub legacy?
[09:55] <madman__> Jack_Sparrow: how do i get that info?
[09:56] <seby57> start up, sorry
[09:56] <magneticubuntu> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE THE HOTPLUG FIRWARE DIRECTORY IS LOCATED PLEASE?
[09:56] <micahcowan> !shout
[09:56] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:56] <magneticubuntu> Jack_Sparrow, you play BFME?
[09:56] <disasm> magneticubuntu: can you not yell?
[09:56] <magneticubuntu> ubotu, sorry
[09:56] <crimsun> magneticubuntu: Dapper doesn't use hotplug.
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> madman__: THe manual, the mfg website... opening the box
[09:56] <randomtime> !oen
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <DJAdmiral> magneticubuntu: ubotu is a chat bot. not a real person
[09:56] <magneticubuntu> crimsun, so where do i put the firmware for IVTV it wants hotplug
[09:56] <NickRivers> seby57: use the most current version of grub... which os loads first is determined by the default setting in your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[09:56] <ladydoor> seby57: you can use the default ubuntu grub...
[09:56] <crimsun> magneticubuntu: if it wants hotplug, then you're out of luck.
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> magneticubuntu: no...
[09:57] <magneticubuntu> cant link it or something?
[09:57] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: no change
[09:57] <Gumby600m> My friend has a macbook.  When it is idle for about 60 sec, the screen dims (but does not turn off)... 5 minutes later the screen turns off.  Is there a similar thing in Ubuntu for laptops?
[09:57] <puff> ladydoor: I practically live in bash and emacs, but hey, to each their own.
[09:57] <madman__> <--looking in his machine with a flash lite
[09:57] <randomtime> Someone help me plz?
[09:57] <puff> ladydoor: I keep thinking about giving ratpoison a shot.
[09:57] <DJAdmiral> seby57: just pop in a windoze disc, install win over your entire hard disk, then install ubuntu and make a partition for ubuntu during ubuntu setup
[09:57] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: now try: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[09:57] <disasm> magneticubuntu: i have that... let me see if I can find it...
[09:57] <Icare> hi, i cant do a apt-get update
[09:57] <Icare> it return some error
[09:57] <bruenig> randomtime what is your problem
[09:57] <bruenig> icare, what is the error
[09:57] <Icare> cant connect to the server :p
[09:58] <magneticubuntu> disasm, thank you :)
[09:58] <ladydoor> puff: lol. it's awesome-tacular. ratpoison+screen+emacs+conkeror(for web browsing)=AMAZING
[09:58] <Icare> 2s
[09:58] <randomtime> i can't get my usb to work on linux
[09:58] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: nope
[09:58] <dr_willis> puff,  check out 'matchbox' :P for kicks
[09:58] <seby57> Is ok to do this if I have installed win home and I want to decide on startup between ubuntu and win?: run .iso ubuntu, install it, reboot and decide between the 2 OS.
[09:58] <DJAdmiral> Gumby600m: System --> Preferences --> Power Management
[09:58] <hume> i'm searching for a toll to keep track of the time I spend on variuos work tasks, and where I can export this to, for instance, a spreadsheet - i use korganizer to plan time, but how to sum time spent?
[09:58] <dr_willis> seby57,  you dont 'run' an .iso
[09:58] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: sound was working just fine before, I"m pretty sure I broke the driver
[09:58] <ladydoor> randomtime: what's your specific problem? (you should probably say it "out loud" and not to me)
[09:58] <seby57> ok whatever
[09:58] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: what did you do?
[09:58] <ladydoor> !dual boot
[09:58] <Gumby600m> DJAdmiral:  Power Managment only lets me explicitly turn off the LCD after X minutes of being idle.  Do you know if I can dim my LCD after X minutes and turn off the LCD after X+dx minutes?
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <bruenig> Icare, what repo is trying to connect when it won't connect to the server
[09:59] <disasm> magneticubuntu: /lib/firmware/`uname -r`
[09:59] <ladydoor> !dualboot
[09:59] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[09:59] <DJAdmiral> seby57: burn the ISO and run the ubuntu install after you install Win. then you'll be fine
[09:59] <keitaro> DJAdmiral, brb gonna restart my PC real quick
[09:59] <NickRivers> seby57: when you install ubuntu, it will check for other OS on your hdd when it installs the grub bootloader and make an entry for windows in the grub menu list
[09:59] <ladydoor> seby57: did you get that?
[09:59] <DJAdmiral> keitaro: okay
[09:59] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: well not fine, I was trying to get it to play sound from more than one program at a time
[09:59] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: ex I couldn't listen to music while playing world of warcraft
[09:59] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: dmix is enabled by default for snd_intel8x0.
[09:59] <Icare> it return : Err http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com dapper ......... cant connet [IP ...] 
[09:59] <DJAdmiral> Gumby600m: sorry - you might want to try searching the ubuntu repoes though
[09:59] <seby57> Ok thank you all. I'm leaving to install Ubuntu. Wish me luck ;)
[09:59] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: that's a wine config issue.
[09:59] <DJAdmiral> seby57: good luck!
[09:59] <bruenig> icare, perhaps that repo is down
[09:59] <Icare> i have tried fr server, usa server
[09:59] <DJAdmiral> !easysource > Icare
[10:00] <ladydoor> isn't that single-sound thing a persistent ubuntu problem?
[10:00] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: ah... well now my sound is broke and wine crashes when I start it lol
[10:00] <NickRivers> good luck and get rid of windows hehehe
[10:00] <Icare> ok
[10:00] <magneticubuntu> disasm: i'm using 2.6.15-23.powerpc
[10:00] <Gumby600m> DJAdmiral: Yeah, I tried that but it's not looking promissing.  Oh well.. thanks for the help!
[10:00] <randomtime> My speific problem is i can't get my usb mouse... nor other usb devices to work... they don't work on any other versions that I have tried
[10:00] <Icare> i have already upgrade the sources.list
[10:00] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: but what did you do to get to this present state?
[10:00] <DJAdmiral> Gumby600m: at least I try!
[10:00] <DJAdmiral> Icare: try using a different archive mirror then
[10:00] <Icare> note that linux is installed on an external drive ?
[10:00] <DJAdmiral> Icare: maybe de? or us? or ae?
[10:00] <bruenig> Icare that doesn't matter
[10:00] <johnny> anybody here print from dapper to a cups 1.1 server ?
[10:00] <DJAdmiral> Icare: or pk?
[10:01] <Gumby600m> DJAdmiral:  Yup--much appreciated!
[10:01] <Icare> ok so if it doesn't matter
[10:01] <djacobs> alll packages work except Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:01] <djacobs>  kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386
[10:01] <disasm> magneticubuntu: not sure, that's where I put it for my hdtv card
[10:01] <Icare> what mirror should i use ?
[10:01] <madman__> Jack_Sparrow: Thank you. it's been a all-nighter. just read the help files (manual)
[10:01] <NickRivers> Icare: try using http://archive.ubuntu.com ... don't put the country code in front
[10:01] <Icare> ok
[10:01] <Icare> thx
[10:01] <ladydoor> randomtime: do you have libusb installed?
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> madman__: good luck
[10:01] <madman__> Jack_Sparrow: sound working
[10:02] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: well... I think I reinstalled the drivers
[10:02] <DJAdmiral> well, er - I'm off to try and use QEMU then. If one thing won't work try another.
[10:02] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: only I don't think it went like it was supposed to
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> madman__: I am ready for a nap myself
[10:02] <randomtime> Don't know what it is... I havn't been able to install linux because i can't click the install button
[10:02] <bruenig> !alternate > randomtime
[10:03] <randomtime> burnig: what does that mean?
[10:03] <NickRivers> randomtime: having trouble installing ubuntu?
[10:03] <bruenig> check out the alternate cd
[10:03] <bruenig> all text, don't have to worry about clicking the install
[10:03] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: can you reinstall alsa from the repos?
[10:03] <madman__> Jack_Sparrow: chaintech ZNF3-250 (alsa mixer)
[10:03] <randomtime> yes... I can't get my usb mouse to work so i can't install
[10:03] <danil> hello
[10:04] <keitaro> DJAdmiral,  any luck?
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> randomtime: did you have the cd do a self test?
[10:04] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: so they will just be like they were when I installed?
[10:04] <danil> ,oxi
[10:04] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: so unmount the volatile stuff (see the output from ``mount''), remove the linux-image-$(uname -r) package, then --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:04] <bruenig> randomtime, have you tried hitting "i" on the keyboard and then clicking enter as that would select and then launch it
[10:04] <NickRivers> I had to install ubuntu-server to get dapper up and running on my box... installed ubuntu-server, got rid of the server kernel and replaced it with the 686 kernel and then installed ubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <randomtime> no my cd trays jammed... i've got it in and i can't get it out! I FEEL LIKE DISMANTLEING THE COMPUTeR
[10:04] <djacobs> so, my last obstacle to install is this:
[10:04] <djacobs> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.o
[10:04] <djacobs> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.o
[10:04] <djacobs> I don't need either of those modules.
[10:04] <RMorris85> can i install draper on my xbox?
[10:05] <NickRivers> randomtime: look for a little hole on the front of your cd player - you can push a paper clip down into it and it will manually eject your cd tray
[10:05] <RMorris85> bruenig ha ha ha ha ha
[10:05] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: reinstall my kernel?
[10:05] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: the linux-image-$(uname -r) package, yes.
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> randomtime: did you have the cd do a self test?  It is an option on the first screen you see... It checks the cd for errors and bad burns
[10:05] <g333k_work> Does my Pc will get more speed using kernel 686 than 386?
[10:05] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, I think the issue is with the usb mouse driver
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> g333k_work: Slightly
[10:05] <NickRivers> g333k_work: yes
[10:06] <mr_smeegal> anyone know why network-manager will not connect to any network but network-monitor connects just fine
[10:06] <mikeGr> hello, i have a problem with booting ubuntu after installing new initramfs-tools (0.40ubuntu32) on my breezy badger installation, it will go into busybox and say it cant see the boot device which is a reiserfs part. on a nvidia soft raid
[10:06] <g333k_work> Or maybe I wont notice the difference
[10:06] <__david> Hello, can anyone help me debug my Xair?
[10:06] <randomtime> jack: i've done that
[10:06] <randomtime> jack sparrow: it's not the cd it's my usb
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> randomtime: HAd to ask..
[10:07] <randomtime> i know... lol
[10:07] <mr_smeegal> this is insane
[10:07] <mr_smeegal> someone help :(
[10:07] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: when do you mean when you say volitale stuff?
[10:07] <bruenig> !patience
[10:07] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> randomtime: I understand, but if the cd has a bad file that controls your usb then you would have the same problem..
[10:07] <randomtime> jack sparrow: u said about changing usb in the cmos... I still can't find the command for that
[10:07] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: see the output from ``mount'', as I mentioned previously.
[10:07] <mr_smeegal> i apologize for that.. but i just dont get this
[10:07] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: it's the linux-restricted-modules stuff. You don't need to remove it, just unmount it.
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> randomtime: It isnt a command it is an option in most bios...
[10:08] <randomtime> jack sparrow: I can't seem to find it
[10:09] <mr_smeegal> is there an ndiswrapper channel :)
[10:09] <__david> When I try to start gdm under Xair, it fails (XKeepsCrashing) reports that it failed to load these modules: i810, kbd, mouse, wacom, synaptics.  The specific error is "Warning, couldn't open module ..."  I know these are installed, because normal Xorg works fine and I can even modprobe the modules and find them with lsmod.  Any ideas?
[10:09] <mr_smeegal> i meant network-manager
[10:09] <magneticubuntu> hmm it seems with dapper drake it doesnt use hotplug but ivtv isnt seeing the firmware
[10:10] <djacobs> So, is there any way to customize the kernel when doing dist-upgrade?
[10:10] <djacobs> Right now I see:
[10:10] <djacobs> Setting up kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 (2.4.27-12) ...
[10:10] <djacobs> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.o
[10:10] <djacobs> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.o
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to take a customers call....  BAck later....
[10:11] <Hausberg> I am having a problem with remote xdm
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin > djacobs
[10:11] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: I don't see what you are talking about in mount
[10:11] <mr_smeegal> can i modify the settings for network-manager
[10:11] <mr_smeegal> anywhere?
[10:11] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: note the volatile keyword.
[10:11] <DJAdmiral-busy> brb
[10:11] <erUSUL> djacobs: why would you want to run such an ancient kernel?
[10:12] <leks> [17180361.824000]  mtrr: no more MTRRs available      anyone aware of this?
[10:12] <Computerex> Hey guyes
[10:12] <Computerex> guys*
[10:12] <mikeGr> hello, i have a problem with booting ubuntu after installing new initramfs-tools (0.40ubuntu32) on my breezy badger installation, it will go into busybox and say it cant see the boot device which is a reiserfs part. on a nvidia soft raid
[10:12] <djacobs> erUSUL: i don't!
[10:12] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22001
[10:12] <djacobs> It's just what apt-get update offered me.
[10:12] <JairunCaloth> still don't see it
[10:12] <Hausberg> I have a second machine and after ssh and export DISPLAY=xxx.xxx.xx.xx:0 konqueror for example won't start
[10:13] <djacobs> apt-get upgrade kernel gives me the same error.
[10:13] <Hausberg> does anyone know how to allow remote x on gdm
[10:13] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: you don't have l-r-m mounted. Don't worry about it.
[10:13] <djacobs> Thanks Jack_Sparrow.
[10:13] <deloreandmc> Hi Everyone! i'm having trouble installing ati drivers.  i've done the "sudo apt-get update.............sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv" thing but when i then type fglrxinfo i get: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:13] <deloreandmc> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:13] <deloreandmc> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[10:13] <deloreandmc> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:13] <deloreandmc> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> djacobs: What did I do now..?
[10:14] <Computerex> Can I please get some help here? BIOS is set to boot from CD. ISO is burned on the Disk with CreateCd. File isnt currupted. But the computer still wont boot from the CD...
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:14] <Icare> re
[10:14] <Computerex> I have the alternative x86 file, that I downloaded from bittorrent
[10:14] <deloreandmc> im sure this has been asked a million times before - what im really wanting to know is what the "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". means
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin > deloreandmc
[10:14] <Icare> i have tried the general mirror for ubuntu package
[10:15] <Icare> and i have the same error
[10:15] <__david> deloreandmc, try opening /etc/X11/xorg.conf and go to the Module section.  Make sure GLCore is not being loaded and "dri" is loaded
[10:15] <ToomToomChecK> bonsoir
[10:15] <ToomToomChecK> ca va bien ?
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[10:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:16] <__david> !Xorg-air
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Xorg-air - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <deloreandmc> dri is loaded? i thought that needed to be switched off
[10:16] <djacobs> apt-get install kernel-package offers the same error.
[10:16] <santa99> !thunderbird
[10:16] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[10:16] <Computerex> Help, anyone? I have been trying to configure Ubuntu since yesterday...
[10:16] <g333k_work> why I cant use synaptic? I receive this error: Uanble to copy the user's Xauthorization file
[10:16] <g333k_work> Unable*
[10:16] <MarGarina> what is the smartest way to switch a server distro to desktop?
[10:17] <__david> deloreandmc, given that it wants something named "*DRI", i'd suggest loading dri
[10:17] <ladydoor> MarGarina: sudo apt-get install *buntu-desktop (inserting a u, a ku, or a xu)
[10:17] <g333k_work> why I cant use synaptic? I receive this error: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file
[10:17] <ladydoor> !repeat
[10:17] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience > g333k_work
[10:17] <MarGarina> ladydoor: cooooool, it's actually a meta package :)
[10:17] <MarGarina> 10x
[10:17] <deloreandmc> _david i'll give it a try... cheers
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> !java
[10:18] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:18] <__david> !pastbin>__david
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <__david> !pastebin > __david
[10:18] <JairunCaloth> crimsun: so ap-get remove then apt-get install?
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> !flash
[10:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:18] <Computerex> Java, bah. It doesnt get the job done
[10:18] <ubuntu> hi guys
[10:19] <ladydoor> MarGarina: yup!
[10:19] <ubuntu> hi ubotu
[10:19] <puff> MetaMorfoziS: If you have questions about Java, I'll take a crack at 'em.
[10:19] <lupine_85> "how do you make it good?"
[10:20] <puff> lupine_85: Good is a relative term :-).
[10:20] <ubuntu> make what good?
[10:20] <__david> Does anyone know about Xorg-air; enough to help me, at leastL
[10:20] <puff> ubuntu: java.
[10:20] <lupine_85> "Better than a kick in the teeth"
[10:20] <Computerex> Can someone atleat get me the Md5 checksum for the alternative packet you download from bittorrent?
[10:20] <ubuntu> puff:  k, ty
[10:20] <puff> lupine_85: Ah, no.  Sorry.
[10:20] <crimsun> JairunCaloth: yes
[10:21] <lupine_85> I had difficulty getting it to be better than a personalised appointment with Genghis Khan's private torturer#
[10:21] <ubuntu> lol
[10:21] <ubuntu> lupine_85: hang in there dude :D
[10:21] <puff> lupine_85: What were you trying to do with it?
[10:21] <wasssssup> anyone have a way around a boot sequence problem so I can load ubuntu?
[10:22] <puff> lupine_85: Java's biggest problem is the insularity of the java world in terms of software.
[10:22] <ubuntu> wasssssup: using grub?
[10:22] <ubuntu> wasssssup:  what error r u getting?
[10:22] <wasssssup> it's a windows machine at the mkoment
[10:22] <wasssssup> monent*
[10:22] <Computerex> I have a question... Is this a HELP channel or not?
[10:22] <lupine_85> nothing in particular; it's always just been slow and painful to code in
[10:22] <killown> how I configure My card video in xorg "card via s3g unichrome igp"
[10:22] <lupine_85> computerex: sort of
[10:22] <ubuntu> ok u lost the ubuntu bootloader?
[10:22] <killown> ?
[10:23] <wasssssup> it refuses to see the CD, and ignores it and the A drive, and goes right into windows
[10:23] <Computerex> I have been trying to get some since yesterday...
[10:23] <jrib> Computerex: the md5sum is on the download page
[10:23] <killown> help me?
[10:23] <puff> lupine_85: That is, leaving aisde whether there is political or organizational insularity, and whether they cause functional insularity, it remains  a fact that you're either running java apps or you're not. Very few people run java apps wihtout knowing a lot about java.
[10:23] <djacobs> Since kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 isn't cooperating, is there another kernel package (or another source for kernels?)
[10:23] <Computerex> wasssup, same problem here...
[10:23] <djacobs> This is a pretty vanilla celeron box.
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> wasssssup: Did you set your bios to boot from cd?
[10:23] <wasssssup> yes
[10:23] <djacobs> And I'd love to be on 2.6
[10:23] <ubuntu> wasssssup: in BIOS ur 1st boot device is cdrom , right?
[10:23] <g333k_work> nobody know about this error?: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file
[10:23] <punk> hello all, is fat 32 better for linux then fat? to be able to write to it in linux and windows?
[10:23] <wasssssup> yes
[10:23] <wasssssup> CD/A/HDD
[10:23] <punk> its not for the main partion
[10:23] <killown> how I configure My card video in xorg "card via s3g unichrome igp" please?
[10:23] <Hexidigital_> punk::   yes
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> wasssssup: What do you see when you look at the cd with windows? one file or several files and folders
[10:24] <Computerex> I checked my BIOS right now. CD/CD-rw are first priorities.
[10:24] <ToomToomChecK> hello there
[10:24] <punk> thanks Hexidigital_
[10:24] <Hexidigital_> punk::   np
[10:24] <ToomToomChecK> is this an english spoken chan ?
[10:24] <wasssssup> the entire set of files
[10:24] <ubuntu> wasssssup:  try cleaning the cd and cdrom
[10:24] <killown> mplayer don't show My video in full screen
[10:24] <wasssssup> I have
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ToomToomChecK: yes english
[10:24] <nahoj> does anyone know what I've done wrong here? (compiling latest alsa-driver) http://pastebin.com/779186
[10:24] <Jeffer> does anyone know how to disable the aic7xxx module from the kernel boot command line?
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ToomToomChecK: the american version of it anyhow
[10:24] <ToomToomChecK> I didn't manage to have an answer on the french chan
[10:24] <ToomToomChecK> should i ask it there ?
[10:25] <Jeffer> does anyone know how to disable the aic7xxx module from the kernel boot command line?
[10:25] <Jack_Sparrow> ToomToomChecK: We are pretty tolerant of broken english.. give it a try
[10:25] <ToomToomChecK> thx ;)
[10:25] <harisund> Jeffer I think you can list that module in the blacklist file and it will not get loaded during boot time.
[10:25] <ToomToomChecK> I'm trying to configure my soundcard but it doesn't play any sound
[10:26] <ToomToomChecK> on the SPDIF outpout
[10:26] <ubuntu> harisund:  r u indian?
[10:26] <Jeffer> I am booting from CD to install Ubuntu
[10:26] <killown> anyone help-me?
[10:26] <killown> mplayer don't show My video in full screen
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> ToomToomChecK: surroundsound?
[10:26] <killown> how I configure My card video in xorg "card via s3g unichrome igp" please?
[10:26] <ubuntu> killown: hi
[10:26] <ToomToomChecK> it's working on the anallogik outppout
[10:26] <ToomToomChecK> that's 5.1
[10:26] <killown> I am using it as vesa
[10:26] <ubuntu> killown: when u play the file , right lcik on it choose full screen
[10:26] <killown> ubuntu I do it
[10:27] <killown> but Don't size full video
[10:27] <ubuntu> do u get any error message?
[10:27] <killown> nop
[10:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Can someone help ToomToomChecK with a surroundsound problem
[10:27] <killown> ubuntu I m using driver vesa for my card video
[10:27] <ToomToomChecK> Jack_Sparrow:  that's for a Digital outpout, I've tried a lot of tutorial on the forums but I didn't managed to play any sound with the digital outpout
[10:28] <ToomToomChecK> It should be nice
[10:28] <ToomToomChecK> :D
[10:28] <Jeffer> does anyone know how to disable the aic7xxx module from the kernel boot command line when booting from CD?
[10:28] <redsoxfan90> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[10:28] <killown> I need to configure xorg for My card video via s3g
[10:28] <redsoxfan90> which linux do i have?
[10:28] <killown> I don't know make it
[10:28] <ubuntu> killown: not sure
[10:28] <ubuntu> sorry
[10:28] <killown> ok
[10:29] <ubuntu> ToomToomChecK: hi
[10:29] <ToomToomChecK> hi ubuntu
[10:29] <redsoxfan90> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 which linux do i have
[10:29] <ubuntu> ToomToomChecK: open konsole
[10:29] <seb64> bonjour
[10:29] <ToomToomChecK> done
[10:29] <ubuntu> type alsamixer
[10:29] <seb64> hi
[10:30] <ToomToomChecK> everything is unmutted !
[10:30] <ToomToomChecK> ...
[10:30] <ToomToomChecK> :=
[10:30] <Computerex> Md5 verifies. BIOS boots from Cds. ISO burnt on a CD. Computer refuses to read the CD at boot up. What do you do?
[10:30] <ubuntu> see surround option there?
[10:30] <redsoxfan90> buy cd's online
[10:30] <magneticubuntu> hi guys how to remove a package please?
[10:31] <ToomToomChecK> ubuntu yes sourround
[10:31] <sdfsaedcjhm> hi
[10:31] <magneticubuntu> i have a deb I installed and want to remove it
[10:31] <ubuntu> ToomToomChecK:  try changing its settings
[10:31] <ubuntu> magneticubuntu: use synaptic
[10:31] <nathanael> When I plug in a usb drive, it says "only root can moutn /dev/sda1 to /media/usb" - how do I make this occur automatically?
[10:31] <wweasel> Hey guys. I've added some fonts but they don't come up under "xlsfonts". Could anyone explain why, and how to make them?
[10:31] <ToomToomChecK> ubuntu wich settings ? the sound is 80% and not mutted
[10:32] <seb64> Who has ubuntu64?
[10:32] <StoneNote> Computerex, put a different CD in computer and boot from it to make sure it is the CD and not the CD player
[10:32] <ubuntu> ToomToomChecK:  the surround setting?
[10:32] <Computerex> StoneNote: ALready tried that...
[10:32] <ubuntu> not sound
[10:32] <StoneNote> Computerex, and?
[10:32] <ToomToomChecK> ubuntu there are 3 ones
[10:32] <Computerex> It works perfectly
[10:32] <ubuntu> i have 2
[10:32] <Computerex> I have been trying to get Ubuntu to work since yesterday you know ;)
[10:32] <ubuntu> anyways play with them
[10:32] <magneticubuntu> ubuntu, how to manually do it please? synaptic cant find it
[10:32] <ubuntu> see if u get anything
[10:32] <Jeffer> is there a channel with brighter people?
[10:32] <sdfsaedcjhm> is there a problem with the ubuntu installer?
[10:33] <seb64> I use ubuntu am64 and i have set up libdvdcss2 but I can't read dvd movies
[10:33] <StoneNote> Computerex, ok, so it's the CD.  are you sure you didn't burn it as a data disk instead of as a boot image ?
[10:33] <Computerex> StoneNote: I have to say, Uh oh...
[10:33] <ubuntu> magneticubuntu:  ok use dpkg
[10:33] <Computerex> Thats might be the problem...
[10:33] <lupine_85>  magneticubuntu: apt-get remove <package>
[10:34] <magneticubuntu> thx
[10:34] <sdfsaedcjhm> is there a problem with the ubuntu installer?
[10:34] <StoneNote> Computerex, I've done to. so has everyone else here so don't let them tell you otherwise
[10:34] <ubuntu> magneticubuntu:  dpkg -r package name
[10:34] <StoneNote> too^
[10:34] <sdfsaedcjhm> i tried installing with it and didnt work
[10:34] <lupine_85> add the option "--purge" to get rid of the config files as well
[10:34] <Computerex> But, the package is an ISO...
[10:34] <Computerex> Dont you need an IMG to boot at startup?
[10:34] <Computerex> I am using The command line tool, "CreateCD"
[10:35] <StoneNote> Computerex, which means you have a data disk with a file called whatever.ISO burned to the CD.  You need to burn the image itself to the CD so it is bootable
[10:35] <Jeffer> does anyone know how to disable the aic7xxx module from the kernel boot command line when booting from CD?
[10:35] <Larynx> this is outrageous
[10:35] <StoneNote> Computerex, never burned a cd that way.  gnomebaker (which I prefer) and K3b both have the ability to burn images.  apt-get install gnomebaker
[10:36] <jud> I was wondering if anyone has any experience in here getting broadcom wireless cards to work with ubuntu?
[10:36] <magneticubuntu> Guys please help with this:
[10:36] <Computerex> Alright. Thanks. Will try to get gnomebaker. Is this possible with NERO?
[10:36] <magneticubuntu> magnetic@magnetic-desktop:~/Archives$ sudo depmod -a
[10:36] <magneticubuntu> WARNING: Loop detected: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/volatile/new_ath_hal.ko which needs new_ath_hal.ko again!
[10:36] <magneticubuntu> WARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/volatile/new_ath_hal.ko ignored, due to loop
[10:36] <magneticubuntu> WARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/madwifi-ng/new_ath_rate_sample.ko ignored, due to loop
[10:36] <magneticubuntu> WARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/madwifi-ng/new_ath_pci.ko ignored, due to loop
[10:36] <magneticubuntu> '
[10:36] <jrib> !paste > magneticubuntu
[10:36] <StoneNote> Computerex, sure, but I've only used that on Windows machines. yes, Nero has that ability
[10:37] <lupine_85> jud: you can use ndiswrapper or the native bcm43xx driver
[10:37] <santa99> Jeffer, thought you were searching for some brighter people
[10:37] <JairunCaloth> well, I got sound back!
[10:37] <Computerex> StoneNote:Thanks for your help. Will try to burn that Image now.
[10:37] <ubuntu> FirstStrike:  hello sir
[10:37] <magneticubuntu> sorry for the flood guys can you plz look at that and how to remove the madwifi crap
[10:37] <JairunCaloth> however wine is still crashing X
[10:37] <StoneNote> Computerex, your welcome. good luck
[10:37] <lupine_85> see www.ubuntuforums.org - the "Wireless Network" section
[10:37] <wweasel> Hey guys. I've added some fonts to ~/.fonts but they don't come up under "xlsfonts". Could anyone explain why, and how to make them?
[10:37] <JairunCaloth> and winecfg is giving me this lovely little error
[10:37] <mikeGr> My problem: i installed new initram-tools and afterwards my computer stops booting after grub, how can i rebuild the ramdisk with a liveCD?
[10:38] <JairunCaloth> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[10:38] <FirstStrike> ubuntu: hi
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !fonts
[10:38] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[10:38] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[10:39] <ocjeunesse> bonjour
[10:39] <Larynx> hola
[10:39] <IceTox> I'm able to set my screen resolution to 1600x1024, while using xorg, I'm only able to set 1280x1024. Is there a common error that makes this issue? Trying to set a higher resolution only causes xorg to crash. It's the same computer as I had windows on.
[10:39] <Larynx> hizbollah
[10:39] <redsoxfan90> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 how do i know what linux i have
[10:39] <ocjeunesse> qui parle francais
[10:40] <Icare> moi
[10:40] <wweasel> Jack_Sparrow: I don't need font installation basics. This isn't a basic question.
[10:40] <Icare> mais tu as un channel francais
[10:40] <Icare> fais un /join #ubuntu-fr
[10:40] <dyn-afk> IceTox I think the correct resolution would be 1600x1200 and not 1600x1024
[10:40] <ocjeunesse> ah mais je fais comment?
[10:40] <mikeGr> My problem: i installed new initram-tools and afterwards my computer stops booting after grub, how can i rebuild the ramdisk with a liveCD?
[10:40] <ocjeunesse> merci
[10:41] <IceTox> dyn-afk, offcourse, but do you know why it's bugging? :|
[10:41] <dyn-afk> nope
[10:41] <dyn-afk> what videocard do you have?
[10:41] <IceTox> two secs
[10:41] <mr_claus> hi, i tried a lot now and cannot find the problem of my fontserver, if i use fslsfonts -server myip:7100 i get the fonts, if i use xset fp+ tcp/myip:7100 i get an error "bad font path element"
[10:42] <mr_claus> i reduced the catalogue to only one path and thats working
[10:42] <mr_claus> i changed the fonts and fslsfonts is always working but not the xset fp+
[10:42] <Mucuk> www.radyosanal.com
[10:43] <ubuntu> does ubuntu have skype version?
[10:43] <ubuntu> !skype
[10:43] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:43] <sphivo> wweasel: Use fc-list to list installed fontconfig fonts, xlsfonts lists fonts available to the (old) X core font system.
[10:43] <Larynx> it is now time, my dear friends, to once again kick windoze to the asshole of hell
[10:43] <Mucuk> !radyosanal
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radyosanal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <sphivo> wweasel: You may have to fc-cache to update it.
[10:43] <IceTox> dyn-afk, nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT
[10:43] <seb64> is anyone use ubuntu amd 64
[10:43] <seb64> ?
[10:43] <dyn-afk> IceTox did you install the nvidia drivers ?
[10:44] <killown> how I desable services in ubuntu?
[10:44] <ubuntu> gotta love the ubotu  bot :)
[10:44] <IceTox> nomego, I guess I didn't dyn-afk, but the conf finds the graphical card. that isn't enough?
[10:44] <ubuntu> killown: use rcconf
[10:44] <IceTox> bah
[10:44] <killown> ok
[10:44] <IceTox> *no
[10:44] <dyn-afk> maybe not IceTox
[10:44] <Ackeubu_> how do i regenerate my gnome menu??`its broken. it blinks and dissapears
[10:45] <spc> anyone here use xampp?
[10:45] <Ackeubu_> only hte Applications menu is broken
[10:45] <IceTox> ok, I'll try that dyn-afk :)
[10:45] <spc> or comfortable with mysql on ubuntu?
[10:45] <dyn-afk> then try to set the correct resolution in your xorg.conf (which you can find in /etc/X11 )
[10:45] <ToomToomChecK> ubuntu i didnt manage to make the digital output work ...
[10:46] <zartche> hello
[10:46] <silentj> Hello, I have a question, I have Synaptic running ( from the add / remove programs in the applications launcher) I cued like 400 files for install and now I want to like pause some of them and remove a few because its saying its gonna take me like 2 days to download haha, is there a way to pause or delete cued downloads I dont want anymore???
[10:47] <ubuntu> ToomToomChecK:  then try alsaconf
[10:47] <Mucuk> !webmaster
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webmaster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <dyn-afk> silentj just cancel everything
[10:47] <ubuntu> silentj: save the listing
[10:47] <Mucuk> !sikitutun
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sikitutun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <dyn-afk> after that you can try selecting the ones you want in synaptics
[10:48] <dyn-afk> providing it didn't install some stuff already
[10:48] <ToomToomChecK> ubuntu does'nt exist alsaconf
[10:48] <eternalswd> how do I compile java with the javac command in Ubuntu?
[10:49] <eternalswd> or is there a different method?
[10:49] <seb64> WHAIT IS THE DIFFENRECE BETWWEN LIBDVDCSS AND LIBDVDCSS2?
[10:49] <e-type> evenin all
[10:49] <e-type> seb64: weuw, loud!
[10:49] <raich> hey, big problem, everytime i logon my dapper, the keyboard leyout is all screwed up... the "e" key prints funny symbols and "backspace" doesnt do its work... it rather prints another strange character. help please?
[10:49] <ubuntu> ToomToomChecK: yes i had to download it
[10:50] <ubuntu> ToomToomChecK:  no idea then
[10:50] <ubuntu> sorry
[10:50] <hoxzer> seb64: version I think...
[10:50] <xange> I have a find state - find $PWD -type f -name index.html - now how would I make it exclude files that have a parent folder of _*
[10:50] <seb64> LIBDVDCSS : i need version 1 or 2 in order to read dvd ?
[10:50] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[10:50] <hoxzer> seb64: install 2
[10:51] <noor> can i do linux+ certification on linux, or i have to install some redhat based distribution > thank you guys for any help :)
[10:51] <silentj> ubuntu how do I save the listing?
[10:51] <seb64> i have version 2 but it doesn't work
[10:51] <ubuntu> silentj:  which settings?
[10:51] <ubuntu> oops
[10:51] <ubuntu> silentj:  do this
[10:51] <raich> hey, big problem, everytime i logon my dapper, the keyboard layout is all screwed up... the "e" key prints funny symbols and "backspace" doesnt do its work... it rather prints another strange character. help please?
[10:52] <ubuntu> silentj: in synatpic , see the 1st button on the toolbar?
 can i do linux+ certification on linux, or i have to install some redhat based distribution > thank you guys for any help :)
[10:53] <ubuntu> silentj:  it is called file?
[10:53] <eternalswd> xange, you could try using sed to discard all the ones with an underscore at the given position, not sure about using find itself
[10:53] <ubuntu> clik on file , then choose save marked settings
[10:53] <ubuntu> ok?
[10:53] <ubuntu> hope that helps
[10:54] <ubuntu> good luck
[10:54] <raich> soneoneeeeeeee help please??
[10:54] <ubuntu> well gtg
[10:54] <ubuntu> later guys
[10:54] <ubuntu> tc all
[10:54] <ubuntu> have fun
[10:54] <seb64> is anyone to help me about libdvdcss2? Pm me please
[10:55] <e-type> xange: there quite some solutions, all of which will require you to learn some awk or regexpressions ;)
[10:55] <eternalswd> raich, have you tried going to the Keyboard dialogue under System -> Preferences?
[10:55] <xange> e-type: I know regex, not awk though
[10:55] <raich> yes, everytme i login i have tto go there to re-chosose my layout (spanish)
[10:56] <^sunny^> hello
[10:56] <raich> choose*
[10:56] <^sunny^> I just compiled the kernel vmlinuz-2.6.17.11-grsec
[10:56] <eternalswd> raich, so it's a problem with it not remembering your preference then?
[10:56] <raich> nope
[10:56] <^sunny^> where do I find the initrd.img for it ?
[10:57] <^sunny^> I just compiled the kernel vmlinuz-2.6.17.11-grsec ... where do I find the initrd.img for it ??
[10:58] <lupine_85> ^sunny^: could be it doesn't need one
[10:59] <erUSUL> ^sunny^: you have to create it yourself. mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17.11-grsec 2.6.17.11-grsec
[10:59] <lupine_85> depends on what you chose to compile in / as a module
[11:00] <^sunny^> erUSUL, -bash: mkinitrd: command not found
[11:01] <QQQOmniD> "'GSnes9x' is not available in any software channel. The application might not support your system architecture." THIS IS NOT TRUE
[11:01] <^sunny^> erUSUL or lupine_85 can you help me ?
[11:02] <zeeneo> hey, i want to create a little visual app in ubuntu/gnome, is there a little package that comes with this to do that?
[11:02] <lampshade> Why does nothing stay copied once I close a program?  Is copy/paste done on a by program basis?
[11:03] <eternalswd> raich, was your keyboard working correctly in the past or has it never worked correctly?
[11:03] <erUSUL> ^sunny^: i'm trying to figure out which package installs mkinitrd
[11:03] <fallingdutch> how do i set up the basic settings within ubuntu?
[11:03] <erUSUL> ^sunny^: ;)
[11:03] <raich> it's working like this since... day before yesterday
[11:03] <e-type> fallingdutch: which settings?
[11:03] <raich> no
[11:03] <raich> yesterday
[11:03] <QQQOmniD> fallingdutch: Go up to system and browse from there. It's in the top left.
[11:03] <^sunny^> erUSUL, ok I'm waiting :)
[11:03] <fallingdutch> e-type, the one you enter during installation
[11:04] <raich> yesterday i installed klx/Compiz, skype, Mplayer and can't remembeer what else...
[11:04] <raich> xgl/Compiz*
[11:04] <e-type> zeeneo: you want what? an integrated development environment with a visual editor?
[11:04] <zeeneo> n/m i got it
[11:04] <fallingdutch> QQQOmniD, i have installed my system using debootstrap and searching for a base-config like script/prog
[11:04] <zeeneo> it was under programming in add/remove applications :P
[11:04] <zeeneo> cheers
[11:04] <zeeneo> 'glade' i think it was btw
[11:04] <e-type> zeeneo: that would be a gui designer, yes
[11:04] <erUSUL> ^sunny^: install initrd-tools
[11:05] <^sunny^> erUSUL, thanks, I'll try it :)
[11:05] <rixth_> Linux king 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:05] <nixternal> why the version request?
[11:06] <e-type> fallingdutch: baseconfig is not in ubuntu...
[11:06] <erUSUL> lampshade: yes
[11:06] <fallingdutch> e-type, i know, looking for anything similar
[11:06] <e-type> fallingdutch: think your stuff is scattered all over /etc/ ...
[11:07] <^sunny^> erUSUL, root@hackedbox:/boot# mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17.11-grsec 2.6.17.11-grsec
[11:07] <^sunny^> find: /lib/modules/2.6.17.11-grsec/kernel/drivers: No such file or directory
[11:07] <^sunny^> find: /lib/modules/2.6.17.11-grsec/kernel/drivers: No such file or directory
[11:07] <e-type> fallingdutch: how about the gui configuration apps in the gnome menu?
[11:07] <fallingdutch> e-type, moop, wrong answer please try again ;)
[11:07] <lampshade> erUSUL: ways around this? without too much hassle?  That is to have a nice clipboard?  Is there one in the repos?
[11:07] <fallingdutch> e-type, the probem is getting gnome and so on running ;)
[11:07] <HoORnet> hi , sorry I speak bad english...  I would like to know if you can say to me where I can change colors of the text of loading after grub menu. ( I had remove usplash ) i just want to change color of text but i don't find where i can do it. you understend me ? :)
[11:07] <e-type> fallingdutch: ??? so where do you think ubuntu saves your system-wide config???
[11:08] <fallingdutch> e-type, sure in /etc, but i don't want to edit all the files by hand ... it's annoying
[11:08] <raich> hey, big problem, everytime i logon my dapper, the keyboard layout is all screwed up... the "e" key prints funny symbols and "backspace" doesnt do its work... it rather prints another strange character. help please?
[11:08] <erUSUL> lampshade: do not close the program from you are copying ;)
[11:08] <e-type> fallingdutch: yeah, I get it ;) ... gnome not running is prolly X not running?
[11:08] <lampshade> that's the worst thing I've ever heard haha  this sucks  there has to be something better
[11:08] <^sunny^> erUSUL, it errors :|
 find: /lib/modules/2.6.17.11-grsec/kernel/drivers: No such file or directory
 find: /lib/modules/2.6.17.11-grsec/kernel/drivers: No such file or directory
[11:09] <Gyuszk> raich, try ctrl+alt+f1 (terminal tty1), login, works there?
[11:09] <ryanakca> Gyuszk: please do not ctcp-version people/channels
[11:09] <Gyuszk> after check /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the keyboard section, check there your layout
[11:09] <fallingdutch> e-type, Just installed ubuntu-base in an encrypted hd ... and had some problems will try playing with the /etc ... files :/
[11:09] <fallingdutch> e-type, thanks anyway
[11:09] <Gyuszk> ryanakca, ok
[11:09] <erUSUL> ^sunny^: have you run 'make modules_install' ?? is your kernel named as you said?
[11:09] <e-type> fallingdutch: apparently you can install the debian base-config
[11:10] <e-type> fallingdutch: google for it ;)
[11:10] <raich> Gyuszk: ok. wait....
[11:10] <^sunny^> erUSUL, yes, it's vmlinuz-2.6.17.11-grsec
[11:10] <HoORnet> you see me ? or i speak in the win ?
[11:10] <Gyuszk> after all raich, check yout layout in gnome (system, settings, keyboard(
[11:10] <wolfmanz> anyone here using TeamSpeak with the ALSA-OSS wrapper?
[11:10] <Gyuszk> )
[11:10] <raich> Gyuszk: that's where i have to go everytime i login to re-choose my layout
[11:11] <richard> hey
[11:11] <raich> i mean, it remmembers the layout but still...
[11:11] <Gyuszk> then somethings changes your layout. make a new user and login with it (use adduser, man adduser)
[11:11] <richard> whats the best way to tune my internet connection with Ubuntu?
[11:11] <Gyuszk> if it works with it, maybe your ~/.xxx settings are bad
[11:11] <raich> hmm okey wait
[11:11] <Althulas> is there ppc irc channel for ubuntu ?
[11:11] <erUSUL> ^sunny^: and the 'make modules_install' ?? check in /lib/modules/ there you must have a directory names after your kernel
[11:11] <raich> damn, now xgl hanged up...
[11:11] <eternalswd> raich, since you installed compiz stuff, you might want to look in your xorg.conf file and make sure Option "XkbLayout" is set to "es"
[11:12] <fallingdutch> e-type, if i ask apt-get to install base-config it wants to remove apt, libc and stuff like that ... sounds not very nice to me ;)
[11:12] <richard> i find  that my speed keeps dropping
[11:12] <wweasel> Where is my XF86Config file located?
[11:12] <e-type> fallingdutch: lol, no, indeed not :)
[11:12] <^sunny^> erUSUL, I just checked and /lib/modules/2.6.17.11-grsec/kernel directory is empty !
[11:12] <Gyuszk> /etc/X11/xorg.conf wweasel
[11:12] <raich> asdfsd
[11:12] <raich> g
[11:12] <raich> ss
[11:12] <raich> g
[11:12] <raich> tdrgh
[11:13] <fallingdutch> e-type, so i will go on with playing with /etc/<wahtever>
[11:13] <^sunny^> erUSUL, what did I do wrong ?
[11:13] <eternalswd> anyone know how to compile java on Ubuntu dapper?
[11:13] <erUSUL> ^sunny^: i do not know. what guide did you followed to compile the kernel?
[11:14] <^sunny^> the grsecurity guide
[11:14] <erUSUL> !java > eternalswd
[11:14] <raich> okey. got to restart gnome...
[11:14] <erUSUL> ^sunny^: url?
[11:14] <eternalswd> rather I should say .java files and not java itself
[11:14] <e-type> fallingdutch: what's the stuff you're looking for? if "gnome" is not running, it is almost certainly an X error
[11:15] <^sunny^> erUSUL, http://grsecurity.net/quickstart.pdf
[11:15] <raich> in xorg-conf there is no section named keybboard, only one that says "InputDevice" and below :"Generic Keyboard"
[11:15] <e-type> raich: that's the section which should hold yr spanish layout ;)
[11:16] <raich> 	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
[11:16] <raich> i change us to es rite?
[11:16] <eternalswd> yes
[11:16] <fallingdutch> e-type, i was reading an howto about how to install ubuntu on a fake-raid, i changed some of the informations to be able to install ubuntu on a encrypted root-device. Now the howto says to execute the base-config at the end to set up all the things needed, i just want to know how i can set up these basic settings. a list of them would help, too so i wont forget some
[11:16] <eternalswd> then restart X
[11:16] <ossie> hi guys i have screwed my 64 bit ubuntu up a bit dapper drake, is there any way of restoring to defualt configuration ????
[11:16] <qatsi> hello !...well, while following the instructions at http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/ for getting aiglx to work, i get an error message telling me that gdm and x cant start because they cant find /usr/bin/Xorg-air :0, but, the things is that the HOWTO dosnt ever describe what to put in there...so, can anyone help me ???
[11:17] <e-type> fallingdutch: well, you've not quite taken the most simple use case, have you?
[11:17] <raich> okey, now what?
[11:17] <raich> restart?
[11:17] <erUSUL> ^sunny^: you used this to install the kernel 'make dep bzImage modules modules_install install', didn't you?
[11:17] <^sunny^> erUSUL, yes I did
[11:17] <fallingdutch> e-type, not realy, no
[11:17] <qatsi> anyone here using aixgl ?
[11:17] <e-type> raich: '$ invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[11:18] <__david> qatsi, try sudo apt get install xserver-xorg-air-core
[11:18] <qatsi> uhmm, thank you _david, ill try that :)
[11:18] <erUSUL> ^sunny^: run again make modules && sudo make modules_install
[11:18] <__david> qatsi, that installs Xorg-air
[11:18] <holler> does anybody know python?
[11:18] <e-type> fallingdutch: I don't think the installer sets that much stuff though... locale, keymap, some X options
[11:18] <whazilla> when i login into terminal ubuntu says u have new mail ... how does one check that from terminal ? ^^
[11:18] <qatsi> _david are you using aiglx ?
[11:18] <ossie> hi guys i have screwed my 64 bit ubuntu up a bit dapper drake, is there any way of restoring to defualt configuration ????, i always manage to screw up my box I need a feature to restore to a stnadard config
[11:18] <e-type> holler: sure it's a programming language
[11:19] <emerge> Does anybody know, are there some problems with installing ubuntu on CoreDuo CPUs?
[11:19] <__david> qatsi, I am not, but its due to an elusive bug that I have yet to solve
[11:19] <fallingdutch> e-type, hostname, hosts, resolv, apt/sources.lst, network-setup, ....
[11:19] <_azrael> emerge: I've got a core duo, haven't noticed any issues.
[11:19] <anthony> heya I'm using gEdit to edit a simple .txt file, and it keeps on saying that it cannot create a back-up of the original file, incase it screws up.  I'm editing the .txt on a FAT32 partition mounted in the my Home dir (/home/anthony/shared).  if I mark it for removal in synaptic ti also marks something called "gedit - ubtuntu desktop" for removal.  if I remove this along with gedit, and the ovbiously reinstall gedit, will it
[11:19] <anthony>  screw everything up?
[11:19] <raich> okey, nothing happens
[11:19] <^sunny^> erUSUL, gotta go, I'll try that, thank you ! ;)
[11:19] <holler> e-type: yes, i'm wondering if anybody knows the python command to spit out the functions of a class..
[11:20] <e-type> whazilla: using a cli mail client or an editor to /var/spool/mail/$username
[11:20] <__david> anthony, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gedit
[11:20] <e-type> holler: not the right place ;)
[11:20] <eternalswd> raich, it's still broken after doing that?
[11:20] <raich> yes
[11:20] <emerge> _azrael:thank's =) I want to purchase a Inspiron6400 with such processor
[11:20] <_azrael> emerge: However, I reccomend that you install the -686-SMP kernel after you install ubuntu, then reboot. This gives you full dual core utilization.
[11:20] <holler> i know not the right place...but..
[11:20] <holler> ahh...beat me to it...=P
[11:20] <anthony> __david, sweet will do
[11:20] <__david> and also try sudo apt-get install -f
[11:20] <qatsi> darn, x isnt starting :s
[11:20] <e-type> fallingdutch: hostname in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[11:20] <__david> anthony, the second fixes broken dependencies
[11:20] <holler> but #python not open...figure if anybody in #ubuntu would happen to know...cant seem to find it in google...
[11:20] <erUSUL> ossie: backups ;) seriusly you should think about making a partimage of a pristine install. sudo apt-get install partimage
[11:20] <holler> ahh well...was worth a shot...
[11:21] <e-type> fallingdutch: don't you know all those, they're pretty obvious ;)
[11:21] <ossie> cheers erUSUL
[11:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[11:21] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[11:21] <__david> anthony, don't forget to update && upgrade as well
[11:21] <raich> eternalswd: someone said something about looking some option in xorg.conf that had something to do with compiz?
[11:21] <ossie> ill do that next timei install, im sick of reinstalling
[11:21] <anthony> __david, it says it can't find it "... it cannot be down loaded"
[11:21] <fallingdutch> e-type, sure i do know them, but i guess i will forget one, that realy needs to be set :)
[11:21] <qatsi> anyone knows a good guide or howto for installing aiglx ?
[11:21] <ossie> erUSUL, how do i use partinstall??
[11:22] <__david> anthony, your sources.list is screwed up
[11:22] <anthony> __david, sorry this is a bit much for me!  I'm new to all this malarky
[11:22] <erUSUL> qatsi: i found this but never tried
[11:22] <anthony> how do I fix it?
[11:22] <roler> what is the file size limit in ext3?
[11:22] <__david> anthony, Alright.  Try this:
[11:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !source-o-matic
[11:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:22] <qatsi> erUSUL: which one ?
[11:22] <erUSUL> qatsi: i found this but never tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglxhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx
[11:23] <__david> anthony, sources.list is the list of places ubuntu looks for applications.  Your sources don't have all the nessecary packages
[11:23] <ossie> erUSUL, my main prob at the moment is that apache2 wont start now, when i do /etc/init.d/apache2 start nothing at all happens
[11:23] <qatsi> erUSUL: thank you :) thats the one im using, but its not helping much hehe :)
[11:23] <e-type> fallingdutch: it will come and give you an error :)
[11:23] <__david> in a terminal, run this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <ossie> i have removed and reinstalled and now its like it is there but dead
[11:23] <__david> anthony, tell me when you have it open
[11:23] <e-type> holler: how about docs.python.org/lib/ ?
[11:23] <__david> !pastebin > __david
[11:23] <gimmulf_> 4how do i reload my default keyboard settings, some keys has stopped working
[11:24] <e-type> ossie: that's a configfile, not an excutable
[11:24] <anthony> __david, have what open sorry? :(
[11:24] <gimmulf_> dont want to restart x
[11:24] <fallingdutch> e-type, like the one "you have forgotten to load a module onto your initial ramdisk ... sorry but can't encrypt your harddisk :P"
[11:24] <__david> in a terminal, run this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:24] <__david> anthonyin a terminal, run this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:24] <bashte> How can i password-encrypt a tarfile?
[11:24] <anthony> __david, okay done that
[11:24] <erUSUL> ossie: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2 (use apache if you instaled apache 1)
[11:24] <e-type> fallingdutch: lol, with an english accent prolly
[11:24] <ossie> e-type, anyideas why i cant start apache2 or how i can totaly remove and reinstall i have tried the --purge option in apt
[11:25] <ossie> cheers erUSUL illtry that now
[11:25] <gimmulf_> how do i reload my default keyboard settings+ suddenly it just changed, dont want to restart x
[11:25] <Anubuntu> Can anyone tell me how to disable the select copying?
[11:25] <e-type> ossie: use invoke-rc.d to call init scripts (like the one you pointed at)
[11:25] <__david> anthony, go to the pastebin
[11:25] <e-type> ossie: second detail is that apache is hard to configure
[11:25] <Anubuntu> like, when it copies the text that I select.
[11:25] <__david> !pastebin > anthony
[11:25] <e-type> ossie: or hard to configure well
[11:25] <__david> anthony, copy that text into your sources.list
[11:25] <eternalswd> raich, which Ubuntu are you using?
[11:26] <e-type> gimmulf_: how did you change it?
[11:26] <nahoj> WOW! Finally got my Intel Soundcard to work in ubuntu!! After 3 weeks.....
[11:26] <__david> anthony, at the bottom.  We are just adding another (US-based) mirror of the files.  Tell me when you have saved your new, lengthened sources.list
[11:26] <anthony> __david, ok I copied !pastebin > anthony into the bottom of the sources.list
[11:26] <e-type> gimmulf_: setxkbmap is the X tool, gnome has it's own keyboard config tool
[11:26] <anthony> __david, saved it :)
[11:26] <gimmulf_> e-type:  that solved it :)
[11:26] <gimmulf_> e-type:  seems to be when im running vmware sometimes
[11:26] <__david> anthony, No, not that.  Delete that.  Those were directions on how to access the pastebin'd file
[11:27] <sharperguy> Hi, im customising the ubuntu cd and i need someone who knows what lagnauge packs i need for each laguage (ie language-pack-gnome-XX etc)
[11:27] <__david> anthony, Don't worry :) We're almost done
[11:27] <anthony> haha
[11:27] <e-type> gimmulf_: what solved it?
[11:27] <ossie> e-type, it was tunnign but i was having problems with php, now it wont run at all
[11:27] <anthony> __david, haha this is mad.
[11:27] <gimmulf_> e-type:  setxkbmap
[11:27] <__david> anthony, go to this link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22002
[11:27] <anthony> __david, ok I've deleted those
[11:27] <raich> nothing...........
[11:27] <raich> help please?!
[11:27] <e-type> ossie: get the default config back, make a backup and then start messing ;)
[11:27] <eternalswd> I have Sun java installed but when I run javac, it says command not found, what do I do to remedy this?
[11:27] <eternalswd> raich, which Ubuntu are you using?
[11:28] <raich> dapper
[11:28] <eternalswd> are there any gnome updates?
[11:28] <__david> anthony, copy the browned-out lines into sources.list  They are the same format, correct?  As in, they look similar
[11:28] <ossie> e-type so what do i do to get back defualt, when i run partimage it complains "Error: sizeof(DWORD) != 4 (8)
[11:28] <ossie> This version has been compiled with an uncompatible version of gcc."
[11:28] <raich> eternalswd: that was for me?
[11:28] <raich> ok.. wait =S
[11:28] <anthony> __david, yes they look similar
[11:28] <ossie> e-type, i guess that mean my OS is screwed?
[11:29] <__david> anthony, did you save it?
[11:29] <raich> eternalswd: nope
[11:29] <anthony> __david, I'm coping those brown lines into sources.list and saving
[11:29] <e-type> ossie: my answer related to apache, has nothing to do with partimage, and even less with you OS
[11:29] <__david> anthony, now close it and run this command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:30] <bashte> How can i stress my system to test it?
[11:30] <_azrael> ossie: I didn't see your earlier problem, but the error you just complained about sounds like you're trying to run a 32-bit binary against a 64-bit library
[11:30] <anthony> __david, okies it's working
[11:30] <ossie> i think i might have screwed up by adding loads of repositorys to my source.list that are not compaitble with 64bit, u think this could be the case e-type
[11:30] <ossie> cheers _azrael
[11:30] <eternalswd> raich, do the keys in question work in any programs or is it a complete system-wide problem?
[11:30] <anthony> __david, thanks for helping btw
[11:30] <__david> anthony, so it seems happy?  Text is scrolling by and it isn't saying anything about malformed urls, et al.
[11:30] <__david> anthony, no problemo!  Sorry it was such a tough fix
[11:31] <richard> YAY
[11:31] <abo> what unix/linux command would give me the total size of a group of files, I was thinking of du *.jpg.. but it's giving the size of each file alone
[11:31] <e-type> ossie: you're mixing up different problems. can't help you like this. in 3 sentences you gave 5 problems: apache, partimage, os, apt-sources and 32/64-bit
[11:31] <raich> hmm they seeem more screwed up in aMSN, but numlock and alt+fx aren't working either
[11:31] <__david> anthony, make sure it works.  I have a feeling that was your problem, but I never know for sure until something _works_
[11:31] <raich> eternalswd: hmm they seeem more screwed up in aMSN, but numlock and alt+fx aren't working either
[11:31] <anthony> __david, "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! unace"
[11:31] <richard> Guys if your internet connection is slower than it should be OR drops off after awhile then you need this
[11:31] <richard> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186430
[11:32] <richard> following that has DOUBLED my internet connection download speed
[11:32] <__david> anthony, can you add the line or 2 following that one?
[11:32] <ossie> ok sorry e-type , i think its time for a reinstall
[11:32] <finalbeta> Anyone knows file recovery software for linux? Like when you deleted a file (from trash even), to recover them.
[11:32] <e-type> abo: man du -> du has a sum option: -c
[11:32] <eternalswd> raich, can you post what is output in a terminal when pressing those keys?
[11:32] <anthony> __david, "Install packages without verification? y/n"
[11:32] <raich> alt+f1 = 'P' alt+f2 = R
[11:32] <abo> e-type
[11:32] <__david> anthony, does it have a URL of the source anywhere?
[11:32] <raich> an so on until alt + f5 = 3:~
[11:32] <abo> e-type, thanks
[11:32] <raich> or something like that
[11:33] <e-type> abo: np, but try to read manpages ;)
[11:33] <__david> anthony, a url is like a website address: http://something.someone.somewhere
[11:33] <raich> richard: that tip only works with Davicom ethernets?
[11:33] <erUSUL> finalbeta: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/21/1558230
[11:34] <__david> anthony, in your sources.list file, where you added those 6 repositories, they are just these:
[11:34] <richard> nope i dont have Davicom
[11:34] <__david> deb http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[11:34] <__david> deb-src http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[11:34] <__david> deb http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[11:34] <__david> deb-src http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[11:34] <__david> deb http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[11:34] <anthony> __david, haha I know what a URL is :P  it has a list with GET commands in front, but nothing is very obvious
[11:34] <__david> deb-src http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[11:34] <finalbeta> erUSUL, thnx
[11:34] <raich> richard: ok, got to try that.
[11:34] <eternalswd> raich, does xev give any sensible output for those?
[11:34] <__david> anthony, those were the only lines you added, right?
[11:34] <anthony> one sec
[11:34] <raich> eternalswd: sorry, xev?
[11:34] <__david> if so, then you can install without verification
[11:34] <richard> seriously
[11:34] <erUSUL> __david: use a pastebin
[11:34] <richard> it worked for me
[11:35] <qatsi> why is ubuntu+1 so quiet?
[11:35] <__david> erUSUL, I tried, but I am not sure he copied the right lines
[11:35] <D0wn> Can anybody help me out with this? My computer running Ubuntu is only playing sound/audio in certain programs.
[11:35] <eternalswd> raich, xev is a program for checking mouse and keyboard output
[11:36] <e-type> D0wn: set all applications to use the same driver (also/oss/esd)
[11:36] <wweasel> I am trying to make the fonts in my ~/.fonts folder available to X, following this page: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/Font-HOWTO/html/Font-HOWTO/x169.html - It reads like hell and I am confused. Could someone knowledgeable help me?
[11:36] <anthony> __david, yes they are the same
[11:36] <ubuntu_> How i check witch xorg version i have?
[11:36] <__david> anthony, then you can install without verification safely
[11:36] <D0wn> Where would I do that at?
[11:36] <raich> eternalswd: how to use it? this funny window shows up and lots of output in cl
[11:36] <anthony> __david, working
[11:36] <richard> YAY - im maxing my connection for the first time since installing Ubuntu!!!!!
[11:37] <monteiro> i've upgraded to the last alsa-driver, but i don't have sound in my microphone, my codec is Generic 14f1 ID 5047 (hda-intel), any idea?
[11:37] <richard> that fix kicks ass
[11:37] <e-type> monteiro: have you tried your different mic channels?
[11:38] <eternalswd> raich, just press the key combinations and you should get output in the terminal like when I press a, it will have some output like XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (61) "a"
[11:38] <monteiro> e-type : how i trie that ?
[11:38] <e-type> monteiro: use the gnome mixer app
[11:38] <raich> eternalswd: okey wait
[11:38] <e-type> laters all, naptime for me
[11:39] <monteiro> e-type : its all set to 100%, capture 100% line-in off
[11:39] <D0wn> e-type: Where would I be able to set all applications to use the same driver?
[11:39] <anthony> __david, my god this internet connection is USELESS at the moment. whilst we're waiting, is this right? I do not have the packages necessary to reinstall gEdit (which is odd because it was installed when I loaded OS) so we needed to DL them.  but the OS doesn't know where it is, so we gave it more places to searcg by adding to the sources.list?
[11:39] <__david> anthony, yes
[11:39] <anthony> __david, sweet.  ok it's down that now
[11:40] <__david> anthony, I had the same problem earlier this week.  ubuntu couldn't find several packages...so, I looked up some US-continental mirror servers and added those
[11:40] <__david> anthony, then it all worked like a charm (for me)
[11:40] <abo> I have installed, ubuntu 6.06, and then installed the kde desktop, then I installed eclipse and it's using gtk, how should I install eclipse to use motif?
[11:40] <monteiro> anyone that uses hda-intel and has a laptop, anyone ?
[11:40] <anthony> __david, hehe  this is the second install of ubuntu I've done: I messed up the first with a webcam..... what do we do now?
[11:40] <monteiro> anyone that uses hda-intel sound card and has a laptop, anyone ?
[11:40] <anthony> __david, do I run the first command you gave me?
[11:41] <__david> anthony, so, you ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[11:41] <__david> anthony, try gedit now
[11:41] <raich> eternalswd: http://pastebin.com/779243
[11:41] <anthony> __david, have done: it's working
[11:41] <anthony> __david, ok done
[11:42] <__david> anthony, now, gedit should work
[11:42] <DaveK> Im finding that quite often apps cant be run properly without using sudo. such as gimp cant open images or xsane cant open the scanner drivers is there a fix for this or a solution
[11:42] <wweasel> I am trying to make the fonts in my ~/.fonts folder available to X, following this page: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/Font-HOWTO/html/Font-HOWTO/x169.html - It reads like hell and I am confused. Could someone knowledgeable help me?
[11:43] <anthony> __david, it still cannot be downloaded., I've got to get something to eat.  I'll be back in half an hour if you're still around.  thanks for your help dude :)
[11:43] <ossie> can anyone tell me hwat is the correct way to use partimage
[11:43] <ossie> ?
[11:43] <pirx67> Hi, I'd like to install the gstreamer-ugly plugins. But they depend on libid3tag0 which isn't in the Ubuntu repositories. Anybody here that may give me a hint where to find this library?
[11:43] <__david> anthony, yep, anytime
[11:43] <__david> anthony, sorry it didn't work though
[11:43] <jrib> !info libid3tag0
[11:43] <ubotu> libid3tag0: ID3 tag reading library from the MAD project. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-8 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 128 kB
[11:43] <darkowl> can someone read me the command for add printer wizard ?
[11:43] <jrib> pirx67: are you using dapper?
[11:44] <ossie> can i restore my system if i dont already have a backup ?? using partimage?
[11:44] <jrib> darkowl: gnome-cups-add
[11:44] <pirx67> Im using 6.06-LTS
[11:44] <wifiworks> im sick of the ubunt wifi driver zd1211!
[11:44] <wifiworks> anyone how do i use the windows driver?
[11:44] <jrib> pirx67: libid3tag0 is in dapper's main repository.  Can you check if you have that enabled?  Or post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you are unsure?
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> pirx67: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install libid3tag0
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[11:45] <eternalswd> raich, which key combination did you press?
[11:45] <wifiworks> ndiswrapper?
[11:45] <wifiworks> or something like that
[11:45] <raich> alt+f1
[11:45] <raich> then escape
[11:45] <whazilla> software index broken ... what now ?
[11:45] <raich> then alt+f4
[11:45] <silentj> Hello all, I have a question. I was running synaptic for about 2 hours and I downloaded about 40 of 400 files, the thing is my internet died before they could all finish. and I dont think that the files that were finished installed... is there a way to find out??
[11:45] <wifiworks> disasm: hey disasm you around?
[11:45] <pontifex> silentj: it will carry on where it left off if you start again
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> silentj: just install the same packages again, it will continue where it left off.
[11:45] <lamego> silentj, just rerun the upgrade
[11:45] <pirx67> I' have a lot of repositories enabled. I'll have a look into sources.list
[11:46] <wifiworks> disasm: I got the linux driver going form source for that zs1211 dongal
[11:46] <wifiworks> the it stop working
[11:46] <wweasel> Can anyone here help me make the fonts in ~/.fonts available to X?
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> wifiworks: did you upgrade your kernel?
[11:46] <pirx67> # deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[11:46] <whazilla> synaptec says index broken ... what now ?
[11:46] <jrib> pirx67: seems to be commented
[11:47] <wifiworks> fyrestrtr: I have the latest kerrnel ... well i installed ubuntu from that new 6.06.1 cd
[11:47] <pirx67> This line is commented out in sources.list
[11:47] <silentj> lamego, I just want it to install the files that were already finished
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> wifiworks: I meant to ask, did you upgrade the kernel since the dongle was last working.
[11:47] <pirx67> But I believed the DVD is enough (or the same source)
[11:47] <wifiworks> fyrestrtr: no
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > pirx67
[11:47] <jrib> pirx67: yep, go ahead and remove the #, then run the command 'sudo apt-get update'
[11:48] <eternalswd> raich, okay, what behavior do you normally expect when pressing alt+f1?
[11:48] <lamego> silentj, if the files were already downloaded they will be used from the local cache
[11:48] <raich> "applications" menu open?!
[11:48] <lamego> eternalswd, CTRL-ALT-F1, a text console
[11:48] <pirx67> jrib: I'll try that to do via synaptic
[11:48] <wifiworks> fyrestrtr: whats the thing you use to wrap win32 drivers?
[11:48] <raich> when i login, it doesn't work, doesn't do anything
[11:48] <silentj> lamego , where do i find the local cashe? Will I be able to install them manually from there?
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> wifiworks: tin foil before I throw them in the can.
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> wifiworks: ndiswrapper :)
[11:48] <ossie> ok guys, cananyone tell me how to upgrade a 32 bit version ofd dapper 6.0.6 to 64 bit???
[11:48] <lamego> silentj, yes
[11:48] <wifiworks> ok lol
[11:48] <raich> but of course, i have to wait until it is fixed before i get into this chat, other wise we wouldnt be talking.
[11:49] <jrib> ossie: reinstall
[11:49] <lamego> but you should use the usual upgrade instead
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> silentj: just go to synaptic, and re-run the upgrade, you don't need to manually do anything.
[11:49] <ossie> jrib, no upgrade path?
[11:49] <raich> eternalswd: and i say "wait" because now, even recooshing the same layout in system-preferences-keyboard fixes it
[11:49] <jrib> ossie: not that I know of
[11:49] <barata> Aug. 29, 2006, 3:53PM Iran leader challenges authority of U.N. --> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4149760.html
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> ossie: install a 64 bit kernel, and recompile any binary packages.
[11:49] <lamego> silentj, are you connected to the internet ?
[11:49] <barata> wrong news
[11:49] <ossie> ok cheers jrib
[11:49] <silentj> fyrestrtr thanks
[11:49] <silentj> lamego hehe yea
[11:49] <barata> should be "Iran is challenging Israel & America"
[11:50] <fyrestrtr> barata: #ubuntu-offtopic for that stuff please.
[11:50] <lamego> silentj, so just use the upgrade, it will not start again
[11:50] <ossie> fyrestrtr, how do i recompile binarys??
[11:50] <pirx67> jrib: Updating the packet list will take about 10 minutes. Will be back then
[11:50] <jrib> pirx67: ok
[11:51] <nosse> hum?
[11:52] <jake1> i'm curious where is a good printer driver source for Linux
[11:52] <EVRAMP> wine: chdir to /home/evramp/.wine/wineserver-pepa : No such file or directory Registry install failed. coul you help me pls? thanx
[11:52] <jrib> !printing > jake1
[11:53] <jake1> i have a canon Pixma MP160 all in one printer and i want to get it to work on Ubuntu
[11:53] <Gyurkahurka|nem> byez
[11:53] <jake1> !printer
[11:53] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:53] <dr_willis> jake1,  check out the cups.org page to see if that printer is even supported. a Lot of the Canon Printers are not supported. :(
[11:54] <lamego> you can install some canon printers drivers using alien to convert the drivers .rpms
[11:54] <eternalswd> raich, okay, so was alt+f1 working when you tried in xev or was it broken at that point?
[11:55] <DaveK> ??
[11:55] <lucilontane> ciao
[11:56] <wifiworks> !ndiswrapper
[11:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:57] <originalwada> slt
[11:59] <jake1> lamego: you mean with Windows drivers
[11:59] <jake1> ?
[11:59] <jake1> you can use Windows drivers with Alien to possible make the canon work?
[11:59] <lamego> jake1, no, i mean some canon drivers are rpm only
[11:59] <jake1> oh
[11:59] <lamego> linux drivers
[11:59] <jake1> hehe
[12:00] <ravenous> anyone having problems with ubuntuforums?
[12:00] <pianoboy3333> how do you start amarok from the terminal?
[12:00] <lamego> you type amarok ?
[12:00] <ravenous> yup
[12:00] <pianoboy3333> lamego: oh.... so my sys is screwed ;)