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draikhow do I run           filename.sh         files?12:11
nagyvhow can I find out the device name of my USB connected mobile? Its memory stick is recoginzed under /dev/sda1, but easyconnect can not connect to it there.12:11
nagyvdraik: in konqueror check with a right click wheather they are executables12:12
vgereddwolf78: cant really help you on that one12:12
nagyvdraik: then click on them twice12:12
jake1how can i find out what driver my Wireless card is using?12:12
draiknagyv, can't do it through CLI?12:12
nagyvdraik: of course you can :)12:13
reddwolf78i got it but i'm haveing trouble esle were that i should be able to do12:13
draikhow?12:13
gan|y|medsoulrider: no prob. thx for the help12:13
Kr4t05Is anyone else having trouble getting on the forums?12:13
reddwolf78thanks for your help12:13
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nagyvdraik: do you have mc?12:13
vgereddwolf78: np12:13
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nagyvhow can I find out the device name of my USB connected mobile? Its memory stick is recoginzed under /dev/sda1, but easyconnect can not connect to it there.12:13
InuDuelistMmm. Back from school.12:14
Kr4t05nagyv: are you talking about a Palm Pilot?12:14
InuDuelistTime for some more Linuxing until 6, then comes Eureka.12:14
draikmc?12:14
jake1u gotta be kidding me12:14
nagyvKr4t05: no, it's a sony-ericsson D750i mobile12:15
jake1no one can tell me what driver my wireless card is using12:15
draiknagyv, what's mc?12:15
Kr4t05nagyv: well, you know what I mean.12:15
nagyvdraik: midnight commander, it a similar program to norton commander or windows commander12:15
draiksudo apt-get midnight commander   ?12:15
nagyvKr4t05: what you mean?12:15
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nagyvdraik: it's in the universe repository, and the package name is just mc12:16
draikok12:16
draikinstalling12:16
draikdone12:17
nagyvdraik: fine, after locate your file, and click Ctrl+x c to see the permissions12:17
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draikclick CTRL+X?12:18
nagyvdraik: you can run it either by simply clicking enter on it, ot clicking Ctrl+o to hide the panels, and then write $ ./yourscript.sh12:18
nagyvdraik: yes, and after a C12:18
draikls12:18
draikwhoops12:18
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nagyvdraik: alright, push not click :)12:19
a|i3Nhey i've got a frozen program - how do i kill the process?12:19
nagyvdraik: what woopsed ?12:19
draikI typed ls in konversation instead of my yakuake12:19
nagyva|i3N: open Ksysguard12:19
a|i3Nah that's what that's for12:20
a|i3Nhehe12:20
draikCTRL+X+C only starts a new command line12:20
a|i3Nanybody in here play around with the level editor in pingus?12:20
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nagyvdraik: hmmm, not for me! alright, then click on F9, and under the File menu select chmod12:20
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nagyvk31th: could you please help me with my mobile?12:21
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nagyvKr4t05: : could you please help me with my mobile?12:21
draiknagyv, chmod to what?12:21
draikchmod 777?12:22
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Kr4t05nagyv: sorry, I have no experience with them. :/12:22
draikthe entire CD or just the file?12:22
nagyvdraik: make it executable for yourself/group/everyone as you prefer12:22
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draikok12:22
draikit is12:22
nagyvdraik: the file is enough12:22
soulridergan|y|med: i did it but it looks rather strange, i dont think the tutorial is well explained12:22
draikactually, it didn't change it12:23
draikchmod: changing permissions of `linux-installer.sh': Read-only file system12:23
draikthe file is on a CD12:23
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draikI just want to run a bash file       filename.sh12:25
_lupine"bash filename" ?12:25
gan|y|medsoulrider: thx, i have found my failure, but my result looks the same12:26
gan|y|medvery bad12:26
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nagyvdraik: and the file is not executable by default? (is it green in mc?)12:26
draikthank you _lupine, that works12:26
_lupinecool :)12:26
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boowin text mode my text is scrolls beyond were i can see it anyone else have this problem12:31
D4rklycan anyone remeber the in xorg.conf to enable the windows keey12:31
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jake1lspci did not tell me what driver my PCMCIA wireless card is using12:32
jake1i want to find out what driver eth2 is using for wireless12:32
jake1what command can i do to get that12:32
joschaare amarok 1.4.2 packages out anywhere?12:33
boowlsmod will tell you what modules loaded12:33
InuDuelistjoscha: Yeah.12:34
InuDuelistThey're in the repositories.12:34
InuDuelistJust sudo apt-get install amarok12:34
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gan|y|medsoulrider: could you get the bumpmap to work?12:34
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ravenousjake1: run kcontrol, under internet & network, network settings12:35
boowi have amarok 1.4.1 check kubuntu site on how to install it12:35
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joschai already have 1.4.112:36
boowif its not broke why are you fixing it12:37
joschait broken;) i hate the new CollectionBrowser Behaviour with all Artist with only one Song seperatet12:38
boowjust wait on a backport12:38
joschaand i love last.fm12:38
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boowim just goofing around with this distro till slackware 11 comes out12:39
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boownice distro for those who want the easy way of doing things12:40
beemonkbeemonk is now native on kunbuntu12:40
beemonk:D12:40
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boowjust wish they wouldn't split all the packages into devs12:41
boowwell thats my 2 cents im out12:42
beemonkswitching from my audigy 2 to my usb headset is a nightmare12:42
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Xcalibureveryone12:43
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beemonkyus12:43
XcaliburI need help12:43
Xcaliburok12:43
jake1the network settings does not show what driver the card is using12:44
jake1i want to know the driver12:44
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loicSalut tout le monde12:44
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XcaliburI have a Compaq Presario with a AMD Athlon 2800+, 512MB DDR RAM, and a 120gb HDD, when I load up the kubuntu installation CD, it loads, but it goes to the part where12:45
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Xcaliburit12:45
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Ethoshi guys12:45
Xcaliburboots the kernel, and freezes?12:45
Ethosi'm trying to install a new font in ubuntu but i cant find the wine folder12:45
Ethoscan someone help me with my stupid problem lol12:45
osloi tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto , but i'm unable to find the mol package ....& yes universe & multiverse are activated. Can someone help me ?12:46
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Xcalibursome plz help?12:46
HawkwindEthos: Have you asked the guys in #WineHQ ?12:46
osloEthos> look for */.wine/*12:46
HawkwindEthos: I assume it would be something like ~/wine  but I have never dealt with and don't plan on dealing with wine12:47
Kr4t05Xcalibur: did you get the right cd image?12:47
Kr4t05Xcalibur: Is it an Athlon 6412:47
XcaliburI got it from the kubuntu.net12:47
Xcaliburno, not athlon 6412:47
Ethosthanks :)12:47
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Ethosappreciate the replies12:48
Kr4t05Xcalibur: so, does the install Iso contain x86 in the filename?12:48
Xcaliburi can't remember, it's al on the CD now, i used deamon tools to mount the image, then Nero to copy it12:48
Xcaliburit worked fine on my friends PC12:49
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Xcalibur?12:49
XcaliburI do know my PC is a x8612:50
InuDuelistIf anyone's interested in the Vista Pre-RCI build, here's a link:12:50
InuDuelisthttp://download.windowsvista.com/preview/prerc1/en/download.html12:50
Xcaliburomg12:50
InuDuelistEven though I highly doubt it.12:50
InuDuelistAnd don't even dare start with that "OMG Piracy OMG WINDOZE" stuff.12:50
Xcaliburlol12:51
Xcaliburi wasn't12:51
a|i3Nit sucks i tried it lol12:51
Xcaliburis this the whole windows vista?12:51
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InuDuelistIt's the Vista Pre-RC1 build.12:51
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InuDuelistThe whole thing, yes.12:52
Xcaliburhow big is it/12:52
a|i3Nif you sign up for the beta they'll notify you of the RC1 when it's released12:52
Xcalibur?12:52
InuDuelist2.6 GB.12:52
Xcaliburit downloaded really fast, lol12:52
charimsHi everyone12:52
charims;)12:52
InuDuelistMine's going top speed.12:52
InuDuelistThe download, I mean.12:52
InuDuelistHurry up, though.12:53
InuDuelistThey could reach 100,000 downloads at any time.12:53
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a|i3Nan if you don't have a DVD burner forget it lol12:54
nagyvhow can I find out which port is used by my mobile phone? I would like to use it as a modem with pppd.12:54
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InuDuelistDeamon Tools.12:54
InuDuelistOr the Linux alternative.12:54
a|i3NHEY what's a good sega genesis emulator? with a GUI? hehe12:54
lnxkde:(12:54
a|i3Noh yea that's trye, daemon tools, but only if you're upgrading from Windows XP or 9812:55
InuDuelistYummy:12:55
InuDuelisthttp://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2009452,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K000059412:55
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ravenous2.6 gigs seems awful small12:57
Xcaliburit DL'ed way to fast12:57
Xcaliburwhen I tried to mount it, it said invalid image file12:57
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ravenousmine's taking forever12:58
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Xcaliburanyone here use the Ubuntu server, and is ther a Kubuntu version of it?12:59
Larynxhello, boys n' girls. im installing kubuntu atm and im wondering if there is anybody who wanna help me with the partitioning cuz let kubuntu do it automatic is just boring. :)12:59
gnomefreakXcalibur: ubuntu server and kubutnu server are same iirc12:59
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gnomefreakkubuntu-server even12:59
Xcaliburthey are bother the same?12:59
Xcaliburboth*12:59
ravenouswell ubuntu server doesnt even come with a DE so i dont see what the difference would be01:00
ravenousnor x for that matter01:00
Xcaliburso, there is no Kubuntu server?01:00
waspiushi...i found this really cool site http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en which has allot of useful apps etc.i am trying to download some things though but nothing is happening..most of the files exist also in a debian extention..can i find them some other way?01:00
ravenousXcalibur: i dont think so01:00
gnomefreakXcalibur: they use the same apps like apache and so on01:00
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apmyphow to install FlashPlayer 8?01:01
Xcaliburi could just put abyss web server from aprelium.com01:01
gnomefreakXcalibur: on the kubuntu alternative cd you can install server mode01:01
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Xcaliburo01:01
Xcaliburcool01:01
XcaliburI don't like apache eeeewwwww01:01
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XcaliburI don't get the configuring01:01
Xcaliburi like abyss, b/c it has a net configuring interface01:01
gnomefreakXcalibur: i have only installed sever install a handful of times so im not sure what all it has but im sure its the same packages for all 4 server installs01:03
Xcaliburo01:03
Xcaliburok01:03
Xcaliburi g2g01:03
Xcaliburi'm gonna play with Kubuntu on my other PC :)01:03
Xcaliburcya01:03
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reddwolf78<vge> what was that last web page you gave me that had the already compile version of greexbox01:08
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JohnFluxI have dvds that won't read in linux01:09
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JohnFluxbut do read in windows01:09
JohnFlux:/01:09
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JohnFluxAnyone heard of this?01:09
JohnFluxI get read errors01:09
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dr_willisI have some dvd's that wont read on this pc.. but will read on this OTHER one.. then i check again and they DO read on this one. :P01:10
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dr_willisIm thinking my dvd drive is either dusty.. or wearing out.01:10
dr_willisJust seems to be the last file on the dvds also01:10
Admiral_Chicagodr_willis, no idea...01:11
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dr_willisYea - im not sure whats going on.. however i do live in a rather dusty/dog hair/ place. :P01:12
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Admiral_Chicagoif you had to explain what a package was to someone, how would you do it01:13
foxjwillHi, I'm trying to install kubuntu (I currently use Ubuntu Dapper w/ GNOME), but I'm getting the following error message: libpoppler1-qt:01:13
foxjwillDepends: libpoppler1 (=0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed01:13
foxjwillmore info is in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21442401:13
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foxjwillactually never mind. It's working to install it using aptitude01:15
reddwolf78 <vge> what was that last web page you gave me that had the already compile version of greexbox01:15
D4rklydoes anyone know what line i put in Xorg.conf to enable the windows key ?01:16
Admiral_ChicagoD4rkly, check your shortcuts01:16
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Admiral_Chicagoin System Settings01:16
Admiral_ChicagoD4rkly, what do you want the key to do?01:16
Admiral_Chicagobecause I can use the key to skip a song in amarok (win + B)01:17
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ravenousyeah works by default here in amarok as well01:18
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dr_willisHeh - i just tested my dvd in my old ImacDV - and the thing just spits it out.,01:21
dr_willisGuess its so old - it cant handle a DVD+R01:22
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vgereddwolf78: http://geexbox.org/en/downloads.html01:25
reddwolf78thanks i forgot to save it befor i left01:26
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reddwolf78<vge> is there more to get for the k3b to be able to see an iso or is it all installed already01:27
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vgeif the iso file is there it should be able to see it?01:29
dr_williswhat do ya mean by 'see' ? i burn iso images with k3b all the time01:29
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dr_willisoh with geexbox.. Hmm.01:30
foxjwillHi, i installed kubuntu via kubuntu-desktop, but ubuntu still boots up in gnome. Can someone please help me?01:30
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ravenousfoxjwill: click on 'sessions' at the login screen, and select 'kde'01:32
InuDuelistfoxjwill: Bad move.01:32
dr_willisselect KDE from the kdm/gem login screen. :P01:32
foxjwilli tried that. It didn't work01:32
foxjwillkde wasn't listed01:32
dr_willisI install ubuntu/kubuntu that way all the time.01:32
dr_willisodd.01:32
InuDuelistdr_willis, last time I tried that, it screwed my installation.01:33
dr_willisperhaps gdm needs to get restarted..01:33
dr_willisInuDuelist,  ive done it at least a dozen + times and never had an issue.01:33
ravenousshouldnt need to but its worth a try01:33
dr_willisand xubuntu-desktop01:33
foxjwillso, how do i restart gdm?01:33
dr_willisOr boot to the console or kill gdm. and make a .xinitrc that runs 'startkde'  then use 'startx'01:33
dr_willis- /etc/init.d/gdm stop01:33
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foxjwill'stop' not 'reload' or 'restart'?01:34
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InuDuelistdr_willis, you don't use Aptitude or compile programs that much, do you?01:34
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dr_willisstop will kill it :P then ya could  use the startx method.01:34
dr_willisInuDuelist,  been trying to compile MatchBox lately :P01:34
InuDuelistWhat sorts of problems have you been getting?01:34
InuDuelistQt missing?01:34
foxjwillhow do I make a .xintrc that runs 'startkde' then uses 'startx'?01:35
dr_williswith MatchBox its some sort of automake issue01:35
InuDuelistOh.01:35
dr_willisecho "startkde" > .xinitrc01:35
InuDuelistSo the ./configure goes through?01:35
dr_willisthen try 'startx'01:35
foxjwillok01:35
dr_willisInuDuelist,  Yep. i got all sort of dev packages installed. and ive compiled a lot of other things01:35
InuDuelistdr_willis, you lucky bastard.01:36
InuDuelistIt was one time, and I screwed my entire installation.01:36
InuDuelist>_>01:36
dr_willisInuDuelist,  i would guess somthing else screwed ya up.01:36
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InuDuelistNope.01:37
charimsawww, my cd burner won't burn at 4x it bumped it up to 8x, i hiope i don't get errors :(01:37
dr_willis'prove that statement' InuDuelist01:37
dr_willis:P01:37
InuDuelistIt was the fact that Ubuntu and Kubuntu didn't want to live together under one installation.01:37
InuDuelistThey kept trying to delete eachother.01:37
InuDuelistI couldn't compile, nor could I use aptitude.01:37
dr_willisInuDuelist,  i know of  no one else thats ever had an issue with it.01:37
dr_williswhat does compiling have to do with it?01:37
InuDuelistNothing.01:38
foxjwillxauth:  creating new authority file /home/avi/.serverauth.614201:38
foxjwillFatal server error:01:38
foxjwillServer is already active for display 001:38
foxjwill        If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock01:38
foxjwill        and start again.01:38
foxjwillis that alright?01:38
InuDuelistI meant that afterwards, I was left unable to compile.01:38
dr_willisfoxjwill,  you still got an X started. :P01:38
foxjwillok01:38
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dr_willisthat gdm stop line will kill x and gdm01:38
foxjwillok01:38
dr_willisthen 'startx' SHOULD start up kde.01:38
foxjwillso:01:39
foxjwill/etc/init.d/gdm stop01:39
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foxjwillsudo startx01:39
foxjwillright?01:39
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dr_willisi think thats the right path/command - on a xp box at the moment01:39
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dr_willisthere is no need for sudo01:39
foxjwillok01:39
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foxjwillxauth:  creating new authority file /home/avi/.serverauth.626501:39
foxjwillX: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.01:39
foxjwillxinit:  Server error.01:39
foxjwillCouldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console01:39
dec_does anyone know what to install to watch quicktime movies on ubuntu 64 bit01:40
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ProJ3ctAllo all01:40
dr_willisfoxjwill,  now thats weird.01:40
dec_does anyone know what to install to watch quicktime movies on ubuntu 64 bit01:40
subquantumDo you need to belong to a particular group to be able to run X?01:40
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foxjwillok01:41
dec_does anyone know what to install to watch quicktime movies on ubuntu 64 bit01:41
foxjwilli also have kdm installed (but it's not running)01:41
foxjwillshould i try starting that?01:41
dec_does anyone know what to install to watch quicktime movies on ubuntu 64 bit01:41
subquantumdec_: Check the Multimedia Codecs section of the official Ubuntu guide thingy01:42
subquantumI don't really remember if it says anything about quicktime there, but that's your best bet01:42
dr_willisHmm ya could just start the kdm service. :P01:42
dr_willisor set it up where kdm is the default01:42
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dr_willisbut really startx should of workjed.. unless theres somthing we missed01:42
subquantumWhat's happening when you try and start kdm, foxjwill?01:45
subquantum>_> Or not01:45
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dr_willisI think he FINIALLY stopped X. :P01:45
subquantumHeh01:45
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waspiuswhen u are speaking with someone on the msn and they send you a smiley and u are using adept where do u save it to be able to use them after?01:46
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jerry:)01:47
dr_willisHuh,,01:47
jerryor "D01:47
jerry:D01:47
subquantumIf you're using Adept to talk on MSN, there are other questions you should be asking >_>01:47
dr_willisadept is the package manager program.01:47
dr_willis:P01:47
waspiussubquantum: ie?01:47
dr_willisso it cant chat on msn01:47
jerryor @D01:47
waspiusyeah..sorry i meant kopete01:48
jerryor =)01:48
subquantumAdept isn't the program you're using - Could it be Kopete, or Gaim?01:48
subquantumOkay01:48
jerryor even =D01:48
subquantumThen, I have no idea01:48
waspiuslol01:48
jerryor ^_^01:48
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subquantumOk01:49
jerrynm that's not a smile01:49
subquantumIf you go to Settings, Configure Kopete01:49
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subquantumon the Appearance Tab, you can configure Emoticons01:49
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dr_willisEmoticons - what a name.01:49
dr_willis:)01:49
foxjwillI figured out what happened; for some reason, kubuntu-desktop didn't install. now when i try to, it comes back like this:01:50
subquantum<Xp01:50
dr_willisA+ for figureing it out.01:50
foxjwillkubuntu-desktop:01:50
foxjwill Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed01:50
dr_willisIve heard of others with that issue.. Im thinking a server may be having some issues.01:50
subquantumOh, are you running Ubuntu and installing Kde packages?01:50
foxjwillah01:50
foxjwillyes01:50
dr_willisnot heard any definitive answers however.01:50
dr_willis!easysource01:50
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:50
foxjwilloh01:50
foxjwill:(01:50
dr_willisperhaps change mirrors01:51
subquantumYeah - I tried that a while ago, and I ran into a few problems, one of which being GDM dying randomly - I switched to using KDM01:51
foxjwillus's 2 letter code is us, right?01:51
foxjwillnot en?01:51
subquantum...Depends01:52
subquantumEn when you just mean english, and us for things like keyboard layouts I think01:53
Kr4t05Ok, fstab question. I sometimes get permission errors when trying to write to my FAT32 partition. What would be the umask/uid that would allow me full r/w/e privs?01:53
subquantumUmask 000 I think01:53
foxjwillkubuntu.org repositories are unsupported?01:53
Kr4t05Current options for that partition: "defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46"01:53
Kr4t05subquantum: so, I can just remove the gid?01:54
subquantumyou might want to try changing 'defaults' to 'rw'01:54
subquantum...Don't remember what gid does - I think you can get universal access to it if you just say "rw,utf8,umask=000"01:54
subquantumlemme take a look, I have the same situation01:55
subquantumHere's mine: /dev/hdb5       /files          vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       101:55
subquantumSo, hmm01:55
Kr4t05subquantum: I think changing that to rw,utf,umask=000 would work.01:56
Kr4t05Works for me.01:56
foxjwillwould this source list be good: http://pastebin.com/779333 ?01:56
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Kr4t05foxjwill: looks okay.01:57
foxjwillok01:57
foxjwilli'll use it then01:57
Kr4t05Mine has some user-owned repos, but you wouldn't miss much without them. Also, it's a bit risky to use un-official repos. :)01:58
InuDuelistGah.01:58
Kr4t05imbrandon and nalioth. :)01:58
InuDuelistHomework.01:58
Kr4t05InuDuelist: pwned01:58
subquantumYeah... I think I have wine and some other little things'01:58
InuDuelistThe School-go-home-lover's worst enemy.01:58
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naliothKr4t05: hmmm?01:58
Kr4t05nalioth: I was just plugging your repo.01:59
subquantumMy classes don't start till next week ^_^01:59
naliothKr4t05: ah01:59
subquantumheh01:59
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Kr4t05Heh, we may as well compare source.lists :P01:59
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foxjwillit's /etc/sources.list, right?01:59
InuDuelistYay.01:59
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Kr4t05foxjwill: be sure to back up your default one02:00
subquantumit's /etc/apt/sources.list02:00
InuDuelist-RPingOK, girls, let's share our sources.list LOL!02:00
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subquantumMine's standard, with a few extras:02:00
subquantumdeb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main02:01
Timmmmare bank accounts not free in America?02:01
subquantumdeb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main02:01
subquantumSome ar02:01
subquantume02:01
subquantumdeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main02:01
TimmmmInteresting. What do the ones you pay for give you that is worth any money?02:01
subquantumThat's it for cool things02:01
subquantumI dunno, some might have checking overdraw protection (like, drawing money from a savings account instead of bouncing a check)02:02
subquantumThere are a lot of banks, and they all have their little differences02:02
TimmmmInteresting02:02
subquantumWhy, where do you live?02:02
TimmmmUK, never seen a bank account that costs money.02:03
subquantumHmm02:03
foxjwillwhy aren't the kubuntu.org repositories supported?02:03
TimmmmPerhaps they have lower interest rates compared to inflation than in america.02:03
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subquantumI'm pretty sure that my current accounts are free... I have a few, I just moved to college and got a new bank, so I'm not really familiar with it02:03
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Kr4t05http://pastebin.com/779338 <- Mine. :)02:06
Kr4t05I keep alot of them commented out to avoid breaking things. Un-official stuff and such.02:06
subquantumYeah, I keep myself busy with ensuring that things break at the same rate that I can repair them :p02:07
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Kr4t05Heh02:07
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reddwolf78is there a way to run a iso file with out haveing to but it on cd/dvd to install a program02:08
subquantumYeah... I have mythtv running, xgl, the ATI driver, ut2k4, darwinia, HL2 via Cedega, and on top of that I use this to write stuff with SDL and OpenGL02:09
subquantumI have a lot that can break very easily, lol02:09
subquantumYes, you can mount an ISO using mount02:09
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EmergeTW_Anyone know if libvisual-plugins is in a kubuntu repository somewhere?02:09
subquantumyou'll have to use -o loop I think02:09
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a|i3Num. i'm trying to compile something and it's saying "bash: ./configure: permission denied" ??????????????????02:10
subquantumchmod a+x configure02:10
subquantum?02:10
reddwolf78is there a way to run a iso file with out haveing to but it on cd/dvd to install a program if so could some one help me out with it02:11
a|i3Nok now i get "bash: ./configure: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"02:11
a|i3Ngrr. Trying to compile Gens02:12
subquantum>_> It sounds like there's a typo on your first line02:12
RogueThunderAnyone around fermilar with troubleshooting wlan setup around? I could... realy use some help.02:12
subquantumI've done a good deal with wireless02:12
Martijn81reddwolf78: yes, first make a folder, i.e. /media/iso and then mount the iso with loop on that file02:12
RogueThunderYay... i hope.02:12
subquantumWhat's the problem?02:12
RogueThunderJust to start, ive got a wusb54g linksys usb card...02:13
subquantumOkay... Is it being autodetected by kubuntu?02:13
RogueThunderIt was02:13
subquantumOkay02:13
RogueThunderi ended up trying ndiswrapper too02:13
RogueThunderwhich02:13
Martijn81!iso > reddwolf7802:13
RogueThunderhad exactly teh same results02:13
subquantumSo these results are...02:14
RogueThundermy card has both a native, and working ndiswrapper driver in theory02:14
subquantumokay02:14
RogueThunderit shows up as eth2, and doesnt work02:14
subquantumSo iwconfig says that it has no wireless interface?02:14
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RogueThunderleme check02:14
reddwolf78the iso i'm runing is for a geexbox02:15
RogueThunderEth 2 is a wireless device02:15
subquantumOkay, good02:15
reddwolf78i have not done compileing befor and i tried the web for it and didn't under stand it02:15
subquantumSo do you have an access point handy?02:15
foxjwillso, i've narrowed it down to:   libpoppler1-qt: Depends: libpoppler1 (= 0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed02:15
RogueThunderyes, and already gave the card the correct info for it02:15
subquantumokay02:15
RogueThunderand it says its invalid02:15
subquantumHmm02:15
RogueThunderthe thing is02:15
foxjwillthat's the last of a chain of dependencies for kubuntu-desktop02:15
RogueThunderit shoudlnt beeth2, it should be wlan002:16
RogueThunderfrom what ive researched02:16
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RogueThunderthough noone elces fixes i found worked02:16
digivoreHi02:16
subquantumAs far as I know, native drivers run on the ethX's, and ndiswrapper'd drivers have wlanX02:16
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RogueThunderah.02:16
RogueThunderwell02:16
reddwolf78<martijin81> i made the folder but how do i loop it02:16
RogueThunderi theoreticlay have ndiswrapper running it atm02:16
digivorecan anyone recommend a package installer?02:17
RogueThunderateast, according to ndiswrapper02:17
subquantumOkay - does iwconfig show more than one wireless interface?02:17
RogueThundernope02:17
foxjwillhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424 explains the problem02:17
subquantumHmm02:17
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subquantumIf it works natively I wouldn't use ndiswrapper at all... you get fewer features with it02:17
RogueThundereth0 is my dlink wired card thats utterly useless because the routers a room away02:17
foxjwill"The problem is the libpoppler1 package which is downloaded when you install Compiz. To get past this, you would have to force use of the Dapper version of libpoppler1."02:17
foxjwillany ideas?02:17
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RogueThunderso should i take its driver out of ndiswrapper?02:18
subquantumI'd give that a try02:18
RogueThunderthat will put me back to my starting02:18
RogueThunderwhich02:18
RogueThunderwas no different02:18
subquantumCould be confusing it, having two different drivers for the same device02:18
subquantumhmm02:18
RogueThunderbut, ya know, avoid conflict02:18
RogueThunderi didnt even have ndswrapper installed before02:18
RogueThunderand...the current status was the smae02:18
subquantumSo when you say something like "sudo iwconfig eth2 essid MyAccessPoint mode Managed" it doesn't connect?02:18
subquantumHmm02:19
RogueThunderer02:19
RogueThunderhow do i remove a driver from ndiswrapper02:19
RogueThunderjust, to prevent any possible02:19
subquantumThat command should tell the card to try and connect02:19
digivorecan anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?02:19
subquantumUm... I'm not sure02:19
RogueThunderright02:19
RogueThundergimme a min to check02:19
subquantumMy last laptop had ndiswrapper, and I never removed it >_>02:19
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ravenousdigivore: synaptic, aptitude02:19
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reddwolf78<martijn81> i made the folder but how do i loop it02:20
foxjwillso, doesn anyone know how to force use of the Dapper versio nof libpoppler1 vs. the compiz version?02:20
digivorethanks ravenous02:20
foxjwilldoes02:20
foxjwill*02:20
Martijn81reddwolf78: sudo mount -t iso9660 /location/to/iso /location/to/mountpoint -o loop02:20
reddwolf78there are still a lot of things that are new to me for linux i just started about 2 weeks ago02:20
RogueThunderok!02:20
RogueThunderrebooting to make sure its not using ndiswrapper02:21
subquantumAlright02:21
RogueThunderits ndiswrapper -e btw02:21
subquantumk02:21
RogueThundermy acess point uses wep btw02:21
RogueThunderas in, currently on02:22
subquantumOh, okay02:22
RogueThunderim sure thats an extra hassle02:22
subquantumI don't remember offhand how to set the wep key..02:22
RogueThunderits just... kinda essensial due to location02:22
RogueThunderwell02:22
subquantum"man iwconfig" should tell02:22
RogueThunderi whent in and custom typed in all the stuf02:22
RogueThunderfollowing the... yeah02:22
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RogueThunder*Whisles* almost booted02:23
digivoreravenous, i think there is another one, maybe something newer?  i forget the name...02:23
RogueThunderp3-800, takes a lil time booting02:23
Martijn81reddwolf78: but geexbox is a live-cd, right? Then you'll probably want to boot from it02:23
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subquantumHeh02:23
subquantumYeah02:23
ravenousnot that i know of those are the big ones02:23
subquantumMy parents are running kubuntu on a 300mhz P102:23
RogueThunderHeh02:23
subquantumThat... may have been a mistake02:23
RogueThunderthen again02:23
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RogueThunderits faster than my p-m 1.4 running windows xp02:23
RogueThunderso02:23
RogueThunderlol02:23
RogueThunderto boot that is02:24
subquantumRight...02:24
reddwolf78thats what i'm trying to do but for some reason k3b would not but it on cd for me couse it say it can'02:24
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acidxhiii everybody02:24
reddwolf78can't read the iso02:24
subquantumMy desktop is a quad-core Xeon, 2.0ghzX402:24
subquantumthe SMP kernel makes much better use of the multi cores than XP did02:24
a|i3Nsubquantum can i send you that file - maybe see what's wrong with it02:25
Martijn81reddwolf78: you don't need to mount an iso to burn it, you can do it though, but it would destroy the boot capability02:25
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silentjhello all02:26
silentjsup ?02:26
reddwolf78i'm not sure what i'm trying to do i would like to get geexbox on linux02:26
reddwolf78if you have a better idea of how to do this please let me know02:27
nO01t02:27
nO01t02:27
RogueThunderdo i need quotes or anything around my essid if it has a space in it?02:27
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Martijn81reddwolf78: geekbox is just a live-cd based on linux, it would not install anything to your hard drive, it's like you start a pre-installed session from a cd02:28
charims"how to save a life...."02:29
acidxI have a question, im runnin ubuntu dapper 6.06 , at first when i place the cursor over an image file on my desktop i could see a preview on the file tip. but not anymore. in konqueror the option to see preview in file tip is enabled... any idea?02:29
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InuDuelistGar, more homework.02:29
InuDuelistI really should write this stuff down.02:29
charimsGar, no homework02:29
InuDuelistHehe.02:29
charims:)02:29
charimsi didnt get any today02:29
InuDuelistMy school's starting a Linux class.02:29
InuDuelistThe bad part is that it's starting in 6 years, when I'm out of it.02:29
charimsreall,y awesome02:29
charims:)02:29
acidx?02:29
charimsaww02:30
reddwolf78oh ok then thats not what i need then i need a mediaplayer that works with shoutcast for me to be able to dj from my hard drive and i need it to be so i can intall it on the linux program02:30
reddwolf78do you know of any that are like that02:30
Martijn81reddwolf78: normally you start K3B and hit "burn image", that and hitting ok is all it would need generally02:30
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reddwolf78ok02:31
RogueThunderhey subquantum what was that line again02:31
RogueThunderi cant find it heh02:32
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reddwolf78but the geexbox is a live image i need on my linux so i can dj how is the live image going to help me when i need the web browser to get request from pple02:32
acidxhellllo?02:32
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Larynxy0y002:33
ryanakcahow do you record your desktop? like into a movie02:33
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Martijn81reddwolf78: if i follow correctly you already have linux((k)ubuntu?) installed and now you want extra software on your disk?02:34
reddwolf78sort of02:34
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RogueThunderSubquantum?02:34
reddwolf78i need a media format that i can dj from like sam cast or icecast but shout cast works too02:35
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reddwolf78and there are few mediaplayers that can do it02:35
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ravenoushave you tried the xmms plugin02:36
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RogueThunderO.o02:36
RogueThunderhello subquantum02:36
RogueThunderhaving some... connection issues? lol02:37
Martijn81reddwolf78:  ah, well you'll not need the geebox cd then, just software from the repository or from the websites that deliver the software. Though i am not into the building service thing yet, maybe someone else can help you with that02:37
InuDuelistHaha!02:37
InuDuelistHomework! I've conquered you once more!02:37
reddwolf78ok02:37
InuDuelistThat's how good I am.02:37
InuDuelistI got two people gone.02:37
InuDuelistWith my mad-homework-squicked squittles.02:37
reddwolf78do you know of someone that could help me or a better way i can say what i want to do02:38
reddwolf78to get the right kind of help02:38
ravenousreddwolf78: there are a a bunch of icecast stuff right in the repositories if you have universe/multiverse enabled02:38
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RogueThunder...02:39
RogueThunderSubquantum? you there?02:39
charimsHey everyone, i still have a sound problem, and Gaim makes sounds, but nothing else, or not that i know of. Also whenever i try to play an mp3 or something, the program freezes, or breaks the sound system so the sound goes away till i reboot or it does both. I have an Nvidia CK8 using Alsa Snd-Intel8x0. Please help02:39
reddwolf78i have some things for universe/multiverse enabled but i'm not sure what to look for in the respositories02:39
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ravenoustry liveice, the description says 'live audio streaming application', sudo apt-get install liveice .. or open synaptic/adept and search for 'icecast'02:40
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charimskk, ty02:40
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gotmilkhey i can get net access, but when i try to get updates through adept its never able to download anythinhg02:41
acidxhey where can i get some support please?02:41
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charimsmaybe your repositories are messed up,try enabling them02:42
gotmilkive done that already02:42
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charimssorry, out of suggestions then02:42
gotmilklol thanks :)02:42
reddwolf78<ravenous> it says it got the files and instaled them but how do i know if witch program to go into02:43
reddwolf78to make use of them02:43
charimsyeah, noobs normally don't have much for suggestions02:43
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ravenousreddwolf78: if its not in your menu then open a terminal and type the name of the program, 'liveice', or whatever the name is02:43
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ravenousor hit alt+f2 and type it in02:44
acidxhey ??02:44
reddwolf786238:Error: Line In mode *and* no soundcard??????? Eeejit! i get this message02:44
digivoreis there a specific name for programs like 'adept' and 'synaptic'?02:45
ravenouspackage managers02:45
digivoreok02:45
Jucatomore specifically Package Manager GUI frontends...02:45
charims10694:Error: Line In mode *and* no soundcard??????? Eeejit!02:45
charimssame here02:46
reddwolf78i have a sound card02:47
charimsme too, and its listed....02:47
charimsummmm??02:47
charimssum1, please help02:48
charimscharims@Kubby:~/Desktop$ liveice02:49
charimsplaylist02:49
charims 10963:Error: Line In mode *and* no soundcard??????? Eeejit!02:49
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RogueThunderWell02:49
ravenousman liveice, or liveice -h, or look it up in the forums02:49
RogueThundersince subquantum vanished... anyone fermilar with getting wireless cards to work? i could relay use some help XD...02:49
Martijn81charims: maybe the tool need configuration first, not sure02:50
arejayteewhich archives should i use?02:50
CheeseBurgerMan!wireless02:50
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:50
CheeseBurgerManRogueThunder: Look there. :)02:50
RogueThunderyeah... tried that stuf02:50
CheeseBurgerManoh.02:50
RogueThunderand more02:50
arejaytee!archives02:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about archives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
charimskk, will try02:50
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CheeseBurgerManRogueThunder: What chipset, and what exactly have you done?02:51
RogueThunderits a prism54 ive determined, wusb54g linsys card02:51
RogueThunderand... ive done more than i can easily type02:52
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CheeseBurgerManlol02:52
RogueThunderthe most notible things ive done, are try installing ndiswrapper and a driver through that...02:52
RogueThunderand nothing changed02:52
arejayteehrmm wierd , wont let me drag windows onto the other desktops either02:52
CheeseBurgerManRogueThunder: When you ran ndiswrapper -l does it show everything working?02:53
RogueThundernot now, but thats because a few min ago i removed it from ndiswrapper02:53
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RogueThunderprism54 has a native driver theoreticlay02:53
CheeseBurgerManSo does my bcm4318, but the firmware isn't included.02:54
RogueThundermmm?02:54
RogueThunderwhy would the firmware be needed?02:54
CheeseBurgerManI think that was the reason nothing worked. :P02:55
CheeseBurgerManAll I really know is that it didn't work, I somehow disabled the driver, used ndiswrapper, and it worked. ;)02:55
RogueThundermy windows driver, is firmware free too impretty sure02:55
RogueThunderwhich, is what ndiswrapper uses so02:55
RogueThunderbut yeah02:56
RogueThunderso... your about as clueless but slightly luckier than i am eh?02:57
CheeseBurgerManRogueThunder: Pretty much. ;)02:57
RogueThunderI did have ndiswrapper installed with the right driver... but i didnt disable anything elce02:58
RogueThundernor would i have a clue how to02:58
RogueThunderwell02:58
RogueThunderi tried someones blacklist thingy found on the forum02:58
RogueThunderbut that just made it not show up at all02:59
RogueThunderwhich... was supposedly for the exact same card... but *shrug02:59
CheeseBurgerManIt didn't show up where?02:59
RogueThunderanywhere.02:59
CheeseBurgerManNot even lspci? :o03:00
RogueThunderuh03:00
RogueThunderits usb...03:00
RogueThunderof course its not in lspci :P03:00
CheeseBurgerManOh.03:00
RogueThunder*laughs*03:00
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RogueThunderi dont think i checekd... i foget the command but the usb version of that command03:01
RogueThunderit probly was there03:01
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RogueThunderive typed it 5 times03:01
RogueThunderi still cant remember it03:01
RogueThundernone of those times were during that attempt03:01
arejayteei can browse to the the archives in konqeuror but cant access with apt-get or adept? wtf03:02
Jucatoarejaytee: archives, as in .tar.gz right?03:04
arejayteecan someone paste thier working sources.list?03:04
arejayteeno as in archive.ubuntu.com03:04
Jucatooh03:04
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charimsISOMagic03:05
dr_willis!easysource03:05
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:05
arejayteethanks03:06
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CheeseBurgerManarejaytee: If you still care to see it, mine's at http://pastebin.com/77936403:07
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silentjhello03:08
silentjanyone here?03:09
CheeseBurgerManHowdy.03:09
silentjhows it goin cheese?03:09
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CheeseBurgerManI'm good, you?03:09
silentjgood good03:09
r3volta`daefhello can some1help me ?03:09
silentjplayin wit my new shiny ubuntu03:09
silentjwhat you need guy?03:09
CheeseBurgerManr3volta`daef: The problem is?03:09
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silentjim like a nooob or whatever but maybe i can muster somethin03:10
r3volta`daefi cant connect to quakenet  dunno why03:10
arejayteethanks CheeseBurgerMan i will check it ok03:10
r3volta`daefi got this error msg03:10
r3volta`daefConnection to Server irc.quakenet.org lost: name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect03:10
r3volta`daefi am connecting over Konversation client03:10
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RogueThunderWell, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...03:12
reddwolf78<ravenous> i think i found what i was loking for with in amarok i just need to figure out how to set it up03:15
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charimsYay, installing Kubuntu on another machine!! had to use irqpoll to make the cd mount tho.....03:16
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CheeseBurgerManRogueThunder: I think the command you were searching for it lsusb03:16
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charimswhat does IRQPOLL do anyways?03:16
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RogueThundereh, not searching for it realy but heh thtas it03:18
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arejayteestill just sitting on waiting for headers and not moving !!!GRRRR03:20
CheeseBurgerMan!headers03:20
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages03:20
CheeseBurgerManOh wait.03:21
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RogueThunderinteresting...03:21
CheeseBurgerManarejaytee: You were the one having problems connecting with apt, right?03:21
RogueThunderits id doesnt match the one on the ndiswrapper site fully03:21
arejayteeyeah03:21
CheeseBurgerManRogueThunder: That may be why it's not working right. ;)03:21
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GenericI think I spotted a tiny bug while trying to install libgtk+-2.003:22
Generichttp://pastebin.com/77937203:22
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CheeseBurgerManarejaytee: I'm not sure what to say. You can connect to it (or that's what you said earlier), but apt's not doing it right.03:22
RogueThunderYeah, except im sure its that model... considering ive used this card in windows many times, and the driver is very spesific.03:22
Genericer, libgtk2.0-dev03:22
richard_Anyone get Clamav to install properly into 6.06.1?03:22
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Genericantivirus.....in linux?03:23
RogueThunderyes...03:23
RogueThunderof course03:23
CheeseBurgerManrichard_: sudo apt-get install clamav not working?03:23
richard_I've used synaptic and adept and apt-get install and they all say that some dependencies are required. .. .03:24
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richard_This hasn't happened before on previous installs. ...03:24
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CheeseBurgerManWhat dependencies?03:24
richard_Thats what I can't figure out. . . .I've install all of the Clam files and Klamav files that are available for the heck of it and I still get the error message. . ..03:25
redanyone have standby or suspend problems with their notebook03:25
redill open it up, and nothing happens, i have to hard power it down and restart03:25
Genericrichard_, can you pastebin the errors?03:25
Generic!pastebin03:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:25
charims: Gaim makes sound, but nothing else :(03:26
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Genericso, anyone have any ideas on my issues with installing libgtk2.0-dev?03:26
Ubuntu_MalayAssalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuh03:26
richard_The errors aren't any much more than what I've just stated. ...just that dependencies are lacking. ...03:26
arejayteedamnit it started to work in adept, but now its stopping at 30%03:26
Jucatoanyone here using the KDE composite manager (kompmgr)?03:26
richard_I took Clamav off the system yesterday. ..because of the frustration03:26
Genericrichard_, from what I've read, you're describing your problem veerrry vaguely03:27
Genericif you can pastebin the error message, that would help a lot more03:27
Ubuntu_MalayIs GNOME difference then KDE?03:28
Jucatoyes03:28
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GenericUbuntu_Malay, yes03:28
richard_I know that's the problem the  error message was vague. . ..03:28
Generic!gnome > Ubuntu_Malay03:28
CheeseBurgerManUbuntu_Malay: Yes. install them both, and find out which you like better. :)03:28
richard_I'll reinstall it now and come back and post again. ...03:29
Ubuntu_MalayOIC03:29
redhow do i find out which version of KDE i have, because im having problems installing themes03:29
CheeseBurgerMankded --version03:29
ravenousor in any program under help, 'about kde'03:30
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redokay well the themes i got off of kde-look.org dont work03:30
redor i have yet to get one to work03:30
Ubuntu_MalayI'm new to Linux and too young (19). How can I do to improve it?03:33
charimsLinux is Awesome03:33
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charimsespecially Kubuntu03:33
aaronI'm having an issue with my Dapper router/server machine.  It provides DNS and DHCP via dnsmasq, and NAT via Guidedog.  When any of the machines on the internal network run Bittorrent, somewhere within 5 minutes to 1 hour the machine will lock hard, refusing to come out of screensaver.  The ram checks good in memtest...anyone have experience with this issue?03:34
aaronI can't seem to find any reference to the problem in the kernel logs, either.03:34
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charimswhy does kaffeine say its muted? I can't get any sound from any program other than Gaim03:36
CheeseBurgerMancharims: because it's muted?03:36
charimswell, i can't unmute it03:36
RogueThunderWell aaron, i seem to recall there being a problem with the screensaver in dapper03:37
charimsits stuck on mute, and grayed out03:37
RogueThunderyou might check teh known gliches isting03:37
charimsand freezes when i try to play sometihng03:37
charimsjust like amarok03:37
aaronI suppose it could be an issue with xscreensaver...although the whole machine dies, no network traffic in or out.03:39
redwhat the crap, these thems are drivin me nuts03:39
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redmy kde is 3.5.203:39
Genericcharims, change the engine it's using03:39
archangel_I need some help03:39
Jucatored: what theme are you trying to install?03:39
redanyone that i get from kde-look.org under the 3.5 section03:39
redthye are *.kth03:40
redit says its not valid03:40
charimsi tried to change to alsa, and it froze03:40
Jucatored: how are you trying to install it?03:40
archangel_cant get my display to more than 640x48003:40
archangel_drivers are installed03:40
redusing the KDM Theme Manager03:40
Jucatored: err.. that's the problem...03:40
xwolf-archangel_ how about reconfiguring xserver-xorg?03:40
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rednice03:41
archangel_yeah I tried xwolf-03:41
Jucatored: .kth files are installed there03:41
redi appreciate any help03:41
tj_ok i need help plz03:41
redhow do i go about installing them then03:41
archangel_xwolf-: I dont know what the deal is03:41
xwolf-archangel_ if that doesnt work, i dont know of any other way.03:41
Jucatored: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" (no quotes), then under Appearance, look for Theme Manager03:41
charimsat Generic Kaffeine Froze03:42
CheeseBurgerManred: Are you running it in Admin mode?03:42
archangel_xwolf-: my mom is visiting me and she likes to play the games on my pc, she thought the pc was off and pressed power03:42
redyea03:42
tj_i downloaded this thing called imvu what do i open it with or what do i do03:42
redthere is it03:42
redi see the ones that i installed now03:42
charimsat Genereic: It froze when i tried to switch to alsa03:42
redhow come the other theme manager doesnt work though03:42
archangel_xwolf-: when the pc rebooted, I no longer get a high res03:42
Jucatored: because it's for  the KDM (Login) Themes03:42
redi got ya03:43
tj_can somebody plz plz help03:43
redi thought something seemed kinda wierd when i was changing the one and nothing was happening03:43
redthanks for your help03:43
xwolf-archangel_ i have this problem when i start linux with my monitor shut down.. don't know what it is though03:43
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Uh, if you don't know what it is, why did you download it?03:43
tj_i do know what it is03:44
Jucatored: no problem. just take note that some .kth themes won't work unless you have the needed icons, widget styles, and window decorations installed, too.03:44
tj_i dont know how to open it03:44
xwolf-tj_ there should be some kind of readme file, dude.03:44
tj_its a different kind of chat03:44
CheeseBurgerMantj_: OK, what is it?03:44
redi got ya03:44
archangel_xwolf-: it's wierd man, I got the biggest icons in the world03:44
xwolf-archangel_ sorry, can't help you03:45
redhave you ever heard of any problems with notebooks coming out of standby or suspend when you open the lid03:45
tj_cheeseburg it s a different kind of chat03:45
tj_how do i install it im a noob to linux03:45
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CheeseBurgerMantj_: Uh, I'm not exactly sure. Maybe running ./imvu ?03:46
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tj_with konsole?03:47
archangel_xwolf-: its ok dude. I'm new to linux and dont know any commands. I have two books that takes me forever to find the command I am looking for03:47
CheeseBurgerMantj_: yes.03:47
AndrukTatumhello, my ethernet connection (should be eth0) is not working03:47
CheeseBurgerMantj_: What kind of file is it?03:47
archangel_xwolf-: what is the command that configs xorg03:48
tj_.exe03:48
AndrukTatumcan anybody point me to a website that can help me fix it?  (Ubuntu Dapper)03:48
tj_its a setup also03:48
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Uh, is it for Linux?03:48
Jucatoarchangel_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:48
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tj_yah im pretty sure03:48
archangel_xwolf-: thats it, thanks man03:48
Agiosarchangel_: kcontrol, peripherals, display   see what you have there03:48
archangel_I'll try it again03:48
soundgateanybody here using wine?03:49
tj_omg im an idiot it doesnt only windows sorry03:49
tj_dammit03:49
archangel_you mean under hardware? xwolf-03:49
xwolf-what?03:49
xwolf-archangel_ are you on kde right now?03:50
tj_brb03:50
archangel_lol sorry03:50
archangel_I thought it was you talking03:50
xwolf-well, it wasnt :)03:50
archangel_I should lean to read03:50
AndrukTatumdoes anybody know how to configure an ethernet card in dapper?  mine went out on me when win...s crashed last time (why am i not surprised).03:50
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archangel_(and type)03:50
Eleafoo03:51
soundgateim trying to install an application with wine. how do I change the destination directory in the install shield wizard?03:51
archangel_by the way yes, I am in KDE03:51
Eleafsoundgate, the installer will usually ask where you want to install something.03:51
xwolf-archangel_ i wasn't talking, but the idea is to either go to a command line and type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' (no quotes) or open kcontrol and take a look on the display settings03:51
EleafI'm not sure if you can control it much past that.  Possibly.03:51
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xwolf-archangel_ you can open kcontrol by pressing alt+f2 then typing "kcontrol" (no quotes)03:52
RogueThunderWell, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...03:52
soundgateyah, the default is in c:\Program Files\03:52
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archangel_ok03:52
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tj_im downloading a game called toribash this is for linux do i open it with /bin/tar like it says or save to disk03:52
soundgateI have to change that, right?03:52
xwolf-gotta go now. see you all03:52
archangel_my drivers are installed03:52
archangel_hardware is nvidea03:53
archangel_nvidia03:53
Languidkonversation users: i just made the switch from x-chat and am wondering if there is an equivalent command for "/mode %n +x" on channel join in konvi03:53
soundgateeleaf: the default is in c:\Program Files. I have to change that, right?03:54
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archangel_hey can I send you the errors that I get?03:55
Jucatoarchangel_: try to put it in pastebin03:56
Jucato!pastebin03:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:56
archangel_k03:56
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soundgatewhy can't I send messages in other channels? I get the error "cannot send to channel" . I already did register and identify.03:56
tj_i downloaded a game for linux do i open it with /bin/tar like it says or do i save to disk03:57
Jucatotj_: what file type is it?03:57
CheeseBurgerMantj_: opening it with /bin/tar downloads it to a temporary file, then opens it with /bin/tar. Saving it to disk lets you save it somewhere permanately.03:57
Jucatosoundgate: maybe it's +m (moderated)03:57
CheeseBurgerMantj_: I personally tend to save to disk.03:57
tj_ok ill save to disk03:57
tj_+ its a .tgz03:57
soundgatehow do I use that? +m03:58
CheeseBurgerMansoundgate: you can't unless you're an OP.03:58
tj_now its on my desktop what do i have to do to play it03:58
Jucatosoundgate: it's a channel setting that only ops can change/set. It means that noone except those voiced (+v) can speak in the channel03:59
CheeseBurgerMantj_: try either opening it in Ark, or running 'tar zxvf <name of file>'03:59
soundgateim just new to irc. so how can I send messages in channels that doesn't allow me to?03:59
CheeseBurgerManUh, you can't....03:59
CheeseBurgerManThat's kinda the point of not allowing you to.03:59
tj_i moved the file into ark where do i go from here04:00
soundgateyah, but is there a way that I could ask a permission?04:00
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Hit the extract button.04:00
charimsCan some1 help me with ym sound problem, there are too many symptoms to name here, i would like to DCC chat with whoever is going to help me04:01
tj_i rxtracted them now...........04:01
CheeseBurgerMantj_: what files are there?04:01
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archangel_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2201404:02
tj_toribashd-1.9704:02
tj_stance04:02
tj_init.sta04:02
tj_player1.sta04:02
tj_player2.staq04:03
tj_sta*04:03
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Wait. Pastebin it.04:03
CheeseBurgerMan!pastebin.04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebin. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
CheeseBurgerManOops.04:03
CheeseBurgerMan!pastebin04:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:03
tj_pastebin?04:03
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charimsWill someone please help me with my sound problem in DCC04:03
CheeseBurgerManUh..read what ubotu just said.04:03
Hawkwindsoundgate: You have to be patient....what channel is it ?04:03
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soundgatewinehq04:03
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Hawkwindsoundgate: It's not moderated at all so you should be able to speak in #WineHQ04:04
obf213anyone know how to change tags on m4a files on amarok04:04
archangel_Jucato: just is case you didnt get it    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2201404:05
obf213i change the extension of th efiles to .mp3 they play but when i change the tag amarok completely f;s the song and play back is insane04:05
AndrukTatumobf213: are the files on an ntfs filesystem?04:05
obf213they are on my linux04:06
rOObanyone know if or when the new nvidia driver is gonna be build for ubuntu?04:06
soundgatehawkwind: I still get the error cannot send to channel..04:06
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CheeseBurgerMantj_: Just run 'ls' in the directory the files are in and pastebin the results.04:06
Hawkwindsoundgate: Part the channel and rejoin it and see if that helps.  What IRC client ?04:06
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obf213i just have w/e format the linux hdd is i think its04:06
soundgateim on gaim04:06
obf213it really sucks cuz  the songs just get all screwed up and automatically deleted its wierd04:06
Hawkwindsoundgate: Try using an actual IRC client like Xchat or irssi04:07
AgiosrOOb: I just installed it from the one on the nvidia site. <shrug>04:07
rOObim gonna have to do that soon...04:07
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rOObi thought they would have it built quick04:07
HawkwindrOOb: Why ?04:07
HawkwindrOOb: What is so important that you have to have the new version ?04:07
Agiosit's not like the older one is broken04:07
HawkwindrOOb: You aren't using Xorg 7.104:08
AndrukTatumobf213: what do you mean screwed up?  they stop playing?  they play weird?04:08
AndrukTatumthey make noises they shouldnt?04:08
rOObHawkwind, well iwant the newest .....04:08
HawkwindrOOb: So it's not that you *need* them04:08
rOObits not a huge deal.......04:08
obf213they play wierd04:08
HawkwindrOOb: The new ones give you no added benefit at all over the ones you're using04:08
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Hello? Are you still here?04:08
rOObi WANT them ;D04:08
obf213like play back is all of a sudden jhust like strach sounds AndrukTatum04:08
HawkwindrOOb: Having the latest software is not always the best idea04:08
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HawkwindrOOb: You should know this from your XGL experiences04:09
rOObhehe04:09
AndrukTatumobf213, what version of amarok?04:09
obf213let me found out04:10
obf213i just tried it again04:10
obf213its really effed up04:10
obf213it shortens the song to like 3 seconds of a screech and and thats it04:10
tj_i accidently posted it as you saying it but do you see it04:10
tj_cheeseburg04:11
RogueThunderWell, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...04:11
obf213AndrukTatum how do i find the version04:12
CheeseBurgerMantj_: I don't see a link to the pastebin of the files.04:12
obf213AndrukTatum 1.3.904:12
tj_how do i do that04:12
tj_i typed it all in04:12
CheeseBurgerMantj9991: In pastebin?04:13
CheeseBurgerManMaybe you should press the send button.04:13
tj_i did04:13
a|i3NHey is there a free graphics editor for kubuntu that's as good as photoshop?04:14
tj_i sent it again04:14
tj_it says tj needs help[04:14
archangel_CheeseBurgerMan: could you look at my errors and tell me what the heck it wrong?04:14
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Did you look at the read me?04:14
tj_its under recent posts04:14
tj_no04:14
tj_i will04:15
tj_now04:15
archangel_CheeseBurgerMan: if you can  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2201404:15
obf213ya they need to work on better support for restricted formats.04:16
CheeseBurgerManarchangel_: Right, it's opening now.04:16
obf213or give an option to convert to different forms04:16
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archangel_thanks04:16
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tj_it ssays only to look in start_all.sh for examples of what main servers to run04:17
AndrukTatumobj213: okay, well, i too have already had problems with amarok (the database).  i know for a fact that they no longer support 1.3.9, but i would try to look online for help (Google "amarok, ubuntu, tags, 1.3.9" without the quotes or any combination thereof.  sorry dude04:17
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CheeseBurgerManarchangel_: Sorry, all I could suggest is to run sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg (which you've probably done)04:17
CheeseBurgerMantj9991: Hmm, try looking in start_all.sh for examples of what main servers to run.04:18
tj_k04:18
AndrukTatuma|i3N yes04:18
Agiosarchangel_: run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to correct this04:18
archangel_CheeseBurgerMan: yeah, those are the errors I get after running it04:18
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archangel_CheeseBurgerMan: oh ok, I did the sudo thing04:18
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AndrukTatuma|i3N: its called gimp, i think its located at gimp.org if you want to check it out.  to install it (if it isnt installed automatically), use a gui version of apt-get (synaptic, adept, ...)04:19
tj_cheeseburg it gives me like a code can i like copy and paste that to konsole?04:19
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obf213i was just wondering something04:20
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obf213why do php's run so much slower on firefox than konqueror04:20
tj_cheeseburg it gives me like a code can i like copy and paste that to konsole?04:20
CheeseBurgerMantj_: I dunno. What does it give you?04:20
tj_ill do another paste bin04:21
obf213for example of certain sites like facebook the status bar will go to 75% then hang, and i have refresh a lot until the page actually shows up but on konquerer it just works04:21
CheeseBurgerMantj_: OK, please give me the link this time.04:21
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tj_how04:22
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tj_do i give you the link04:22
CheeseBurgerManIn the recent posts menu, right click on the link to your post, click on copy link, and then paste it in here.04:23
tj_k04:23
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Zamboulie# kubuntu-xgl is the thing right?04:24
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RogueThunderWell, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...04:24
Zamboulie#kubuntu-xgl04:24
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StrudelNinjahey, how do I mount my iPod04:26
CheeseBurgerMan!ipod04:26
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto04:26
CheeseBurgerManOr maybe !mount04:26
CheeseBurgerMan!mount04:26
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks04:26
AndrukTatumRogueThunder: try ndiswrapper, or if you have an atheros chipset, try madwifi04:27
barros_hi.. I've just done a big stupid thing here.. accidentaly done a rm -Rf /usr/lib/python-2.4/site-packages... is there any way to recover all packages affected by this rm??04:27
AndrukTatumRougueThunder: and those are IRC channels, i forgot to include that04:27
|KasatkaHow can i view how much space i have left on my hard drive?04:27
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Agios|Kasatka: df at a command line04:28
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|KasatkaAgios: Thanks04:28
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barros_any hints??04:30
tj_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2201604:30
tj_there ya go cheeseburg04:30
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charimsHi everyone, i just posted my problem on Pastebin, I am having sound issues, please go here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2201704:31
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Jucato[ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/04:31
redanyone with a notebook have problems with the computer coming out of suspend/standby when the lid is opened again, becuase i am04:31
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CheeseBurgerMantj9991: That doesn't look like commands to me.04:32
CheeseBurgerManSorry, tj_04:32
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tj_i wrote it out04:32
CheeseBurgerManWhy not just copy&paste it?04:32
tj_you cant copy  + paste anything04:32
CheeseBurgerManWhy not?04:33
CheeseBurgerManJust open the script in kate.04:33
tj_kate? ok04:33
CheeseBurgerManYes, kate. KDE Advanced Text Editor (or something)04:33
jott_barros_: you could do something like this: dpkg-query -S "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/*" | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq04:33
jott_more s/2.3/2.4/04:34
RogueThunderHey cheeseburgerman, ive determined something incredibly annoying, theres 2 versions of the wusb54g, determined by opening the inf file and taking a look... XD04:34
JucatoCheeseBurgerMan: correct :-D04:34
RogueThunderit explains so much04:34
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RogueThunderthat is04:35
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RogueThunderthe v104:35
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barros_jott_: hmm.. cool...04:35
Zambouliecan someone help04:35
Zambouliei'm installing xgl04:35
CheeseBurgerManJucato: Wow, I was just making it up off the top of my head. :o04:35
Zamboulieand nobody is in the xgl channel04:35
barros_jott_: but, there is a command to reinstall a package?04:35
Jucatolol04:35
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CheeseBurgerManRogueThunder: Yay! Hopefully it will work now. :)04:35
RogueThunderYeah... doesnt help with that.04:35
jott_barros_: apt-get reinstall `dpkg-query -S "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/*" | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq`  should work ;)04:35
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jott_did not test it ;)04:35
barros_jott_: thanks.. I'll check it out!04:36
jott_feel the power of shell ;p04:36
RogueThunderMines the version that ndiswrapper HASNT tested officaly.04:36
RogueThunder-.-04:36
CheeseBurgerManRogueThunder: Test it anway. ;)04:36
RogueThunderversion of the version... er... @.@04:36
barros_jott_: yeah.. I really loves *nix for this reason!!04:36
RogueThunderDid, and it doesnt like it :P04:36
jott_so again replace 2.3 with 2.4.. what ever ;)04:37
barros_jott_: E: Invalid operation reinstall04:37
charimsanyone able to help me witht htat sound problem?04:37
jott_oh aptitude has reinstall ..04:37
tj_now i cant copy the link?04:37
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CheeseBurgerMantj_: Why not?04:38
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tj_when i right click all it says regarding copying is copy to<home04:39
Jucatotj_: Ctrl+C04:39
CheeseBurgerManDude, open it in Kate, and copy the text in Kate.04:39
CheeseBurgerMannot the actual file.04:39
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tj_i copied it into pastebin from kate04:40
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tj_then recent posts i right clicked oon and tried to coopy link04:40
CheeseBurgerManMake a new one with that text.04:40
charimsI guess not...04:40
Zamboulie_someone help04:41
Agioscharims: uname -r and paste result04:41
Zamboulie_i'm on kde and i'm installing compiz and it says to install the gnome package04:41
Zamboulie_if i select the kde one it says break04:41
charims2.6.15-26-38604:41
Zamboulie_should i install the gnome one?04:41
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tj_nope04:41
tj_no workie no04:42
Agiosthere were kernel problems for that chip in 2.6.1404:42
charimsok, so what does that mean?04:42
CheeseBurgerMantj_: How is it not working?04:42
charimsare there still problems with it?04:43
tj_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2202004:43
tj_there we go04:43
CheeseBurgerMantj_: OK, what exactly are you trying to do?04:44
Agiosstill looking, half of these hits are not in english04:44
charimskk ty, sorry about my impatience04:44
charimsBRB for a bit04:45
tj_open mmy game and i dont know how?04:45
CheeseBurgerManUh, what game is this?04:45
Jucatotj_: what's the name of the game again?04:45
tj_toribashd04:45
tj_its for linux04:45
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CheeseBurgerMantj_: Excuse me while I download and take a look at it.04:46
tj_'since ive extracted the files from it and its on my desktop do i just install it now04:46
tj_ok04:46
Ubuntu_MalayKO04:47
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barros_jott_: seems that it is working, with aptitude04:47
reddwolf78i need info on the file formats of what music to download or to get my mp3 songs working04:47
jott_fine..04:47
jott_hmm...04:47
Agioscharims: Solved - this was due to using MMCONFIG for PCI access mode. Changing to BIOS worked properly. Perusing the changelogs for the kernel showed MMCONFIG issues on some machines, hence the guess04:47
CheeseBurgerMantj_: You missed the a line in the readme. Try running "./tbd -h"04:47
Agiosis that applicable to your hardware?04:48
Jucatoreddwolf78: "libxine-extracodecs" in multiverse04:48
jott_barros_: oh i see you may get trouble as dpkg-query -S sometimes gives multiple items in a line04:48
Jucatoreddwolf78: Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:48
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jott_barros_: ..sec04:48
barros_jott_: oh, yes.. I've just seen it..04:49
tj_i hope cheeseburger went to toribash.com not toribashd.com04:49
jott_barros_: the magic pipe: dpkg-query -S "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/*" | cut -d: -f1 | sed "s/, /\n/g" | sort | uniq | xargs aptitude reinstall04:49
charimsbak04:49
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Yes, I did.04:49
tj_lol go to toribash.com04:49
Jucatocouldn't download it...04:50
jott_hehe man so many nice little tools in one line ;)04:50
CheeseBurgerMantj_: I did got to toribash.com04:50
tj_and..........04:50
charimsI'm back Agios, and i don't quite understand your last few posts04:50
CheeseBurgerManAnd downloaded it, and opened the readme, and noticed the one line that you didn't notice.04:50
tj_wat was that04:50
CheeseBurgerMan./tbd -h04:50
tj_wats that do?04:50
CheeseBurgerManRuns the tbd program in the folder.04:51
tj_so how do i go about opening this04:51
CheeseBurgerManat least, the help for it.04:51
barros_jott_: thanks... I looked at the dpkg output, I got some erros but all packages was reinstalled...04:51
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tj_i got konsole open04:51
CheeseBurgerMantj_: open a console in the directory of toribashd, and then run './tbd -h'04:51
barros_jott_: I'll take note about this command line, it can be handy when I do stupid things.. :D04:52
tj_how do i write this ive never done this b404:52
barros_jott_: thanks a lot.. will reboot now to see if all works fine..04:52
jott_barros_: sure do what ever you like ;) best would be to understand it ;)04:52
barros_jott_: yeah, I got it..04:52
barros_cya!!04:52
CheeseBurgerMantj_: OK, the command is in bold. ./tbd -h04:53
tj_tj/desktop/toribashd-1.tgz?04:53
CheeseBurgerManCan you manage to type those 7 characters including the space?04:53
CheeseBurgerManNo.04:53
CheeseBurgerManThe folder, not the .tgz file04:53
charimsAgios , what did you find>?04:53
CheeseBurgerManIt's in the folder. Can you navigate to the folder containing the readme?04:53
reddwolf78thanks04:54
tj_just write./tbd after  where it automatically says tj@tj-desktop:~$04:54
RogueThunder*grumbles* Well atleast i know what the differance between my wusb54g and peoples who work well is...04:54
CheeseBurgerManCan you navigate to the folder containing the readme?04:54
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tj_no i dont know how i suck04:54
tj_if i click and drag into konsole will it translate it04:55
CheeseBurgerManProbably. I've never actually tried that.04:55
tj_it worked now what04:56
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CheeseBurgerMantj_: When the menu comes up, click on 'cd'04:56
Agioscharims: what app are you using to play mp3's?04:56
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tj_actually it didnt work once i cliked enbter04:56
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Where is the folder on your computer?04:56
charimsI tried MPG123, Kaffeine and Amarok, all either froze or broke the sound system04:56
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tj_desktop04:56
Agioscharims: I'm beginning to think you have a codec problem, not a sound problem04:57
charimsare u sure, i used Automatix and got the codecs04:57
CheeseBurgerManTry running cd ~/Desktop/toribashd-1.9704:57
Jucatocharims: are you trying to play MP3's?04:57
charimsyes, but other sounds don't work also04:58
Jucatoeven system notifications/sounds?04:58
charimsno system notifications wrok04:58
tj_wat do i write run cd/desktop/toribashd-1.9704:58
charimsbut Gaim makes sounds!04:58
charimshehe04:58
Jucatohm...04:58
Agiosno I'm not sure. How would I be sure?04:58
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Jucatocan you please check if "libxine-extracodecs" is installed?04:59
charimskk04:59
Agiosand gstreamer stuff04:59
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archangel_hey if my display is screwed up can I restore a previous 'working' kernal and make it work?04:59
Jucatono need for the gstreamer stuff, though...04:59
tj_permission denied05:00
CheeseBurgerMantj_: to do the cd?05:00
charimsyes, libxine-extracodecs is installed05:00
tj_tj@tj-desktop:~$ cd '/home/tj/Desktop'tj@tj-desktop:~$ cd '/home/tj/Desktop'05:01
RogueThunderWell, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...05:01
tj_denied05:01
tj_then tj@tj-desktop:~/Desktop$ '/home/tj/Desktop/toribashd-1.97.tgz' denied05:01
CheeseBurgerManDude.05:01
archangel_when I boot I hit tab to boot to another version,working kernal, right?05:01
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charimsumm, there are a lot of gstreamer things, many are installed05:01
CheeseBurgerManDid you even look at the command I gave you?05:01
archangel_or escape?05:01
tj_wat was that05:02
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Try running cd ~/Desktop/toribashd-1.9705:02
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tj_no such file or directory05:03
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Run ls ~/Desktop05:03
charimsAgios many Gstreamer things are installed, with a specific package name i could narow it down05:03
charimsJucato i do have libxine-extracodecs installed05:04
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Jucatocharims: can you check if Amarok is using the xine engine? (Amarok > Settings > Configure Amarok > Engine)05:04
tj_i press enter it gives me a lil m then says command not found05:04
CheeseBurgerManWhat did you run?05:05
tj_tj@tj-desktop:~/Desktop$ ^M05:05
tj_: command not found05:05
CheeseBurgerManOK, and what did I ask you to run?05:05
Jucato...05:05
charimsAt Jucato yes its using Xine05:05
Jucatothis is getting very confusing...05:05
tj_ cd ~/Desktop/toribashd-1.9705:06
tj_then just  ~/Desktop05:06
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Run ls ~/Desktop05:06
Jucatotj_: you forgot the "cd"05:06
CheeseBurgerManNo, the commands in bold.05:06
charimsSometihng NEW05:06
CheeseBurgerManJucato: No, the folder doesn't exist.05:07
Jucato @_@05:07
CheeseBurgerManJucato: That's why I'm asking him to run ls ;)05:07
tj_tj@tj-desktop:~/Desktop$ ^M05:07
tj_: command not found05:07
tj_tj@tj-desktop:~/Desktop$05:07
CheeseBurgerMantj_: The commands are in bold.05:07
Jucatotj_: "ls"05:07
charimsI tried playing Welcome by Matthias Ettrich, he said "Hello" twice,, both cut off a bit, then no sound and it froze05:07
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Run ls ~/Desktop05:07
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Please, run what I ask you to run. No more, no less. It will help things to go faster.05:07
charimsAt Jucato I tried playing Welcome by Matthias Ettrich, he said "Hello" twice,, both cut off a bit, then no sound and it froze05:08
tj_i coopy and pasted run is desktop right into it05:08
CheeseBurgerMantj_: No, ^M is not the command I put. ;)05:08
CheeseBurgerMantj_: In Konsole, try using Shift+Insert to paste.05:08
tj_no there was a v and command not found05:09
tj_'now*05:09
charimsAt Agios I tried playing Welcome by Matthias Ettrich in Amarok, he said "Hello" twice,, both cut off a bit, then no sound and it froze..05:09
tj_shift and insert didnt work either05:09
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CheeseBurgerMantj_: Then you didn't have the command in your clipboard.05:10
CheeseBurgerMantj_: copy the bold command, and then use Shift+Insert to paste it into Konsole.05:10
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Run ls ~/Desktop05:10
tj_ Run ls ~/Desktop05:10
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tj_i did that05:10
Hawkwindls ~/Desktop05:10
HawkwindLeave off the run05:10
tj_oh05:10
RogueThunderWell, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...05:11
CheeseBurgerManHawkwind: That's why it's in bold.05:11
HawkwindTime to learn your basic linux commands :P05:11
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HawkwindCheeseBurgerMan: It didn't come across in bold though due to +c being set05:11
CheeseBurgerManHawkwind: Oh, it shows up as that on my client. ;)05:11
tj_it came up toribashd-1.97.tgz in red05:11
HawkwindCheeseBurgerMan: Right, but not to the channel05:11
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tj_now what05:12
CheeseBurgerMantj_: OK, run the command in the quotes (but don't include the quotes): 'cd ~/Desktop && tar zxvf toribashd-1.97.tgz'05:12
tj_even cd05:13
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CheeseBurgerManYes.05:13
CheeseBurgerMantj_: cd changes the directory.05:13
pierrethis it possible to watch a dvd with VLC?05:13
CheeseBurgerMantj_: In this case, I'm navigating Konsole to your Desktop, and extracting toribasd-1.97.tgz.05:13
tj_ok now.....05:13
tj_its workin so far05:14
CheeseBurgerMantj_: OK, run the command in the quotes (but don't include the quotes): 'cd toribashd-1.97'05:14
tj_ok now05:14
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Run the command in the quotes (but don't include the quotes): './tbd -h'05:15
CheeseBurgerMantj_: That's all the help I can give you, as I've never used the program, and don't really want to.05:15
tj_but now what05:15
tj_can i like install it now?05:15
CheeseBurgerMantj_: It's already installed. All you need to do it extract the archive.05:16
tj_ohhhhhh i see thanks05:16
tj_sorry i took up alot of your time but i appreciate it05:16
CheeseBurgerMantj_: For help on how to use the program, go to irc://irc.quakenet.org/#toribash or http://www.toribash.com/forum/index.php?topic=56.0 or http://www.toribash.com/forum/index.php?topic=44.005:17
tj_wait how do i extact the archive05:18
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tj_hello? how do i extract the archive05:20
CheeseBurgerMantj_: You already did.05:21
tj_ok which file in the folder do i pick05:21
CheeseBurgerManfor what?05:21
charimsJucato are you there05:22
charims?05:22
tj_toribshd-1.9705:22
tj_choices are05:22
EmergeTWHow do I go about recompiling a program to add support for something (eg amarok to support libvisual) in Kubuntu? ( I am used to portage doing all this for me )05:22
charimsor Agios for that matter05:22
CheeseBurgerMantj_: What are you trying to do?05:23
EmergeTWIs there a way to specify flags and have the package manager build from the package source?05:23
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tj_autosave,stance,read me,start all .sh, and tbd05:23
CheeseBurgerMantj_: What are you trying to do?05:23
tj_im tryin to play the game now05:23
CheeseBurgerMantj_: Did you look at the manual or FAQ I linked to?05:24
tj_i looked at the first one ill check um again05:25
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tj_but they tell you which file plays it05:25
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charimsPLEASE help me sum1 with my sound problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2202205:27
CheeseBurgerMantj_: If they tell you, why arey ou asking me? ;)05:27
tj_they dont05:28
tj_they tell me how to play05:28
tj_i need to no how to get it open to play it05:28
Jucatocharims: sorry about that, went AFK.... unfortunately, I don't know how I could help.05:28
Jucatoyou could probably try the forums05:28
Jucato[ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/05:28
charimshaha, tried ubuntu(no replies since yesterday) , i will try kubuntu.. thanks05:29
CheeseBurgerManEmergeTW: Looked at apt-build?05:29
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EmergeTWCheeseBurgerMan: not yet :)05:29
tj_cheeseburg how do i open it to play it?05:30
CheeseBurgerMantj_: I don't know. I've never bothered with this game. Try running ./tbd and see what happens05:30
charimsoh, Jucato, btw, did you hear how i got amaraok to play something before it froze05:30
tj_ok05:30
Jucatono...05:30
tj_la8er05:30
digivorecan anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?05:30
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Jucatodigivore: Synaptic05:30
arejayteeCould not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)05:31
arejayteeE: Unable to lock the list directory05:31
CheeseBurgerMandigivore: apt-get, synaptic, aptitude05:31
digivoreis there a newer one?05:31
Jucatodigivore: what do you mean by "newer"?05:31
digivorei installed one week ago, but have since reinstalled kubuntu and can't remember it05:31
digivorebut it i liked it05:31
JucatoKPackage, SMART PM?05:31
digivoremaybe not newer  but someone in the channel was talking about it..05:31
Jucatoprobably SMART Package Manager, then05:32
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arejayteegrr why wont updates work i cant get adept or ap-get to install anything05:32
digivorethe website lhad instructions on how to edit the repository server list...05:32
arejayteei get the error above when i try to run ap-get update05:32
CheeseBurgerManarejaytee: run it with sudo05:32
Jucatoarejaytee: "sudo apt-get update"05:33
arejayteealreayd ran sudo so its remembering my pass05:33
Jucatodigivore: which website?05:33
CheeseBurgerManarejaytee: Are you running adept, or another package manager?05:33
Jucatoarejaytee: but you still need to include "sudo" even if it remembered your password05:33
junkphreaksounds like another one is open05:33
RogueThunderhey cheeseurger, something i bet you know, whats the command to get your kernel verison, im just double checking05:34
digivorejucato: the website for the program, can't remember the name of it.05:34
junkphreakuname -a05:34
CheeseBurgerManRogueThunder: uname -r05:34
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arejayteesame error as before05:34
CheeseBurgerMan-a also works. ;)05:34
RogueThunderyayz ^.^05:34
junkphreak:}05:34
RogueThunderexactly what methoughts it was05:34
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Jucatohm.. the only GUI package managers I know of are Adept, Synaptic, KPackage, Kynaptic, and SMART05:34
RogueThunderthe kernel that is05:34
RogueThunderlol05:34
Jucatoarejaytee: try running "sudo dpkg --configure -a"05:35
Jucatoarejaytee: and close Adept if it's open05:35
CheeseBurgerManarejaytee: Is another package manager open?05:35
digivorethose don't sound familiar, but i'll try them05:35
charimsHey, Jucato Did you hear aobut how i got amarok to play for a second before it froze?05:35
digivorethanks05:35
junkphreakneed to find the scriot for sysinfo agian05:35
Jucatocharims: nope. sorry05:35
junkphreakscript05:35
junkphreakuse to have it while back05:35
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Jucatolol05:36
junkphreakhey Hawkwind !05:36
junkphreakhaha05:36
Hawkwindjunkphreak: How you been d00d ?05:36
arejayteehrmmm nope05:36
junkphreakfine05:36
junkphreakjust playing on the laptop05:36
arejayteebut ive just changed the sources.list again and now its atleast trying05:36
Jucatojunkphreak: /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/sysinfo <----???05:36
charimsAt jucato I tried playing Welcome by Matthias Ettrich in Amarok, he said "Hello" twice,, both cut off a bit, then no sound and it froze..05:36
Hawkwindjunkphreak: Kewl.  I left the world of Mandriva about 2 months ago :P05:37
arejayteestoopid thing is it wont do it through apt-get but i can browse the same address in konqeuror05:37
Hawkwindjunkphreak: After 4 1/2 years and nearly 3 years of being an op of the channel05:37
junkphreakme too it pissed me off05:37
verboseanyone know a way in bash to generate the numbers 1 through 9905:37
verbosei'm trying to save myself some typing05:37
junkphreakim liking this kubuntu alot05:37
Jucatoarejaytee: what mirrors/servers are you using in your sources.list?05:38
Hawkwindverbose: Ask the guys in #Bash ?05:38
JucatoHawkwind: #Bash or #bash?05:38
charimsjucato: I tried playing Welcome by Matthias Ettrich in Amarok, he said "Hello" twice,, both cut off a bit, then no sound and it froze..05:38
junkphreaki tried unbuntu but like kde to much05:38
Hawkwindjunkphreak: Same here.  I'll never go back.  Though I do still have SoS which is the largest 3rd party rpm repo for Mandriva.  Gets over 2 million hits a month05:38
Hawkwindjunkphreak: Both the same, IRC channels aren't case sensitive05:38
Jucatocharims: I heard you.. but sorry I have no idea... :-(05:38
RogueThunder*shudders early 8.5mm matashita drives are evil.05:39
charimsok :) ty anyways05:39
JucatoHawkwind: wonder what would happen if you suddenly dropped that...05:39
HawkwindJucato: Heh, won't happen :P05:39
Jucatohehe05:39
InuDuelistMmm.05:39
JucatoI'll probably try out Mandriva again... sometime...05:39
InuDuelistBack, all.05:39
HawkwindJucato: But I'm expanding it.  I do have an E17 Ubuntu repo there too now and will be expanding it even more soon enough05:39
InuDuelistHey, Jucato's here.05:39
JucatoHawkwind: Mandriva's #5 in DistroWatch... imagine that....05:40
Jucatohi InuDuelist!05:40
junkphreakwell just about time for bed to bad i cant hit the irc at work i needa jump box  "}05:40
HawkwindJucato: Yep.  I remember when it was #105:40
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charimsOk everyone, i am going to bed, goodnight, and thankyou all for your help05:40
InuDuelistAw.05:40
Jucatogood night charims! hope your problem would be solved in the morning05:41
InuDuelistintelikey isn't here.05:41
RogueThunder*chuckles* The old mandrake days.05:41
charimsme too ;)05:41
HawkwindJucato: Wasn't all that long ago.  It dropped quickly from #1 to #3 then to #4 and now 505:41
InuDuelistGood night, charims.05:41
RogueThunder*pets his poor 8.2 mandrake disks, may they rip*05:41
junkphreakneed to find a site that i can hit this web irc :}05:41
charimsill probably be back tomorrw ;) hehe05:41
JucatoHawkwind: didn't it go below #5 or #10 before going back up to #5?05:41
HawkwindInuDuelist: We don't need him :P05:41
HawkwindJucato: Not that I know of.  I think 5 possibly 6 is the lowest I've ever seen it.  I keep a close eye on it since SoS is linked on distrowatch.com too :P05:42
Jucatooh05:42
JucatoMandriva: the Linux distro with a sharp-beak scary penguin...05:42
Jucato:-D05:42
HawkwindJucato: SoS is big.....I've put a lot of work into it.  rpm.pbone.net mirrors all of my files05:42
InuDuelistMm.05:43
HawkwindAs do other sites and it's linked on thousands and thousands of sites across the internet.05:43
InuDuelistHawkwind: I wanted to tell him that I finished my Amarok library.05:43
InuDuelistIt took me hours, but I did it.05:43
InuDuelistEven the albums.05:43
InuDuelistThose took the majority of the work.05:43
JucatoAmarok library???05:44
InuDuelistAll I have left is lyrics.05:44
InuDuelistYes.05:44
InuDuelistI was transfering my songs from Windows to Linux.05:44
InuDuelistthen I imported them.05:44
Jucatoaah05:44
InuDuelistThen I named them accordingly.05:44
JucatoAmarok collection...05:44
InuDuelistThen I fixed the albums.05:44
junkphreakok im out later hawkwind!05:44
InuDuelistIt's known as Library. Amarok weirded out on that one.05:44
JucatoiTunes library, Amarok collections....05:45
Hawkwindjunkphreak: Later d00d, good to see ya05:45
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drizhey word05:45
driznice name05:45
drizor SN05:45
wordhey05:45
wordthanks05:46
wordyah i use it on a lot of things...sometimes it's taken so i use wordlet05:46
wordluckily i got it on freenode before anyone else mwahaha05:46
JucatoI wonder how many times I'll be notified if I changed my nick to "a" or "i"?05:46
InuDuelistJucato, it's known as Library everywhere else.05:46
Jucatoso Amarok is unique...05:47
HawkwindJucato: Or 'The'05:47
JucatoHawkwind: yeah05:47
drizI tried to get my name but for some reason I can't05:47
drizwhere do i register it05:47
driz?05:47
Hawkwind!register > driz05:47
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Jucatobut tell me InuDuelist, which is more... logical (for lack of a better term...) ? A "library" of songs/music/mp3, or a "collection" of songs/music/mp3?05:48
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ubuntuthis live cd is pretty cool05:49
InuDuelistJucato: Library.05:49
Jucatoreally?05:49
drizubuntu install05:49
InuDuelistubuntu: Try installing it. :P05:49
drizor dualboot05:49
visitaHi05:49
visitaI'm new05:49
ubuntui'm running slackware primarily, just wanted to see what all the fuss was about05:49
RogueThunderugh... whats the create folder command line?05:49
Jucatoerr... gotta go for now...05:49
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visitaand my english is not well05:49
drizooouch visita so close to bista05:49
ubuntuthough it's pretty nice...05:50
HawkwindRogueThunder: mkdir05:50
drizvista*05:50
visitasomebody talk to spanish05:50
visita??05:50
Hawkwind!es05:50
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:50
visitathanks05:50
Hawkwindvisita: You're welcome05:50
HawkwindOr as they say in your language, denada :P05:50
visitaperharps is god stay here for my english I think05:51
visitabut is my first time in KDE05:51
visitaI have KDE and GNOME05:52
Hawkwindvisita: You can be in both channels if you want, or more than 2 even05:52
visita0k05:52
visitaI'm lost05:52
arejayteehrmm how do i set it so i can just drag windows onto other desktops?05:52
arejayteenot letting me do it now05:52
visitaUbuntu05:53
visitaLinux05:53
visita0k05:53
InuDuelistIt sucks being a realist.05:54
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InuDuelistNobody likes you.05:54
visitaI will go to ubuntu-es bye and thanks for all05:54
InuDuelistNot only that, but everyone always has to try to act like they're right, and you're wrong.05:54
InuDuelistEven though they're definitely the wrong ones.05:54
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pierrethhow can i play a dvd?05:55
InuDuelistDrive to the nearest Texico station.05:55
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InuDuelistStick it in the DVD drive, maybe.05:56
RogueThunderlol05:56
RogueThundernow now05:56
pierrethok, then...05:56
RogueThundersometimes linux can be a bit more arugmentive than that.05:56
Hawkwind!dvd05:56
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:56
RogueThunder:P05:56
pierrethbecause no application wants to play the dvd05:56
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Hawkwindpierreth: Read what ubotu just said05:57
pierrethbut i already installed everything!05:57
visitaIf I close this program. I will be not conected????05:57
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pierrethubotu: the first url does not work05:59
ubotuthe: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB05:59
RogueThunderubotu is just a bot06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is just a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:01
RogueThunderXD06:01
RogueThunderit isnta  perosn06:01
RogueThunderit responds to a few set keywords06:01
reddwolf78can i get some one to help find the respitories for alsaplayer or at lest tell me were i can find them06:03
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Usagerhello06:07
arejayteedamnit know its stop working again06:07
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arejayteesits at waiting for headers when trying to download updates06:07
John-ZHey guys06:08
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John-ZI'm trying to install bitlbee using apt-get and its asking for the cdrom.06:08
MarielaQuhello everyone06:08
MarielaQuI need help with my netwroking cards06:08
John-ZApparently the 6.06 cd I burned isnt labeled exactly the same as the one I used to install, so it doesnt like it.06:08
John-ZHow can I get around this?06:08
RogueThunderWell, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...06:09
MarielaQuI've unplugged my wireless card, Kubuntu didn't find any card, but once I replugged it, it still didn't find anything06:09
arejayteeuncomment the line out of etc/apt/sources.list and it will use the net06:09
RogueThunderheh06:09
RogueThunderive been hanging out for a few hours trying to get wlan help...06:09
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reddwolf78Can some please help me out i'm trying to find the respitories for a alsaplayer and i'm not sure how to find them i know this is not a package that is already in linux but i'm working on a compile and need the respitories to finish up?06:11
arejayteeE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:11
arejayteeE: Unable to lock the list directory06:11
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arejayteewhen tyring to run apt-get update, but no managers are open and niether is sources.list06:12
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digivoreWhat is the file that the Repository lists are stored in?06:17
fdovingdigivore: /etc/apt/sources.list06:17
digivorethankx06:17
fdovingarejaytee: run this command from konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock'06:18
fdovingreddwolf78: try to find alsaplayer with the help of http://packages.ubuntu.com06:18
arejayteethanks fdoving it works if i leave it for awhile06:18
digivoreis thre a program that will install things like google earth and Nvidia Drivers?06:18
fdoving!automatix06:19
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.06:19
fdoving!easyubuntu06:19
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.06:19
arejayteebut now its not connecting to the us.archive starting to shit me lol06:19
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reddwolf78i have the alsaplayer package that i downloaded and i need the respitories to go with it06:19
fdovingdigivore: both are marked with 'Use at own risk'.06:19
arejayteedumb question how i mov forward a folder in terminal06:20
arejayteedir06:20
arejayteelol wrong window06:20
fdovingreddwolf78: like this?: deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com dapper universe06:21
InuDuelistGr.06:21
RogueThunderi ask one last time, is there anyone fermilar with troubleshooting wlan cards preticulary prism54 ones around that might be willing to please help me...06:21
InuDuelistSleep is almost upon me, and such.06:21
fdovingarejaytee: move a folder? 'mv oldpos new/pos/'06:21
InuDuelistfamiliar*06:21
arejayteemove into :?06:21
fdovingRogueThunder: sorry, no time, have to go to work.06:22
RogueThunderah06:22
RogueThunderwould there be a time you are?06:22
fdovingarejaytee: depends on where you wan tto move it. 'mv old new'06:22
RogueThunderso i can... show up when soemone actualy has a clue06:22
digivorefdoving:  thanks,   will automatix really mess things up?06:22
arejayteeie cd in dos lol06:22
arejayteecd desktop06:22
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fdovingRogueThunder: i recommend comming back in ~8-10 hours.06:22
Netslayerwhen i goto desktop configuration and drag past 1 desktop (ie to 4), click save it wont do anything and wont save my settings06:23
Netslayerany ideas?06:23
reddwolf78i still a littile confused06:23
RogueThunder6amish my time... right...06:23
fdovingdigivore: probably not, but it can, as it is not very failureproof designed.06:23
RogueThunderwell! shal do06:23
reddwolf78how do i know i have the right one then06:23
RogueThunderlol06:23
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Zambouliecan someone help me with xgl?06:23
fdovingZamboulie: i recommend #ubuntu-xgl to meet the xgl-wizards.06:24
fdovingnow i really have to go to work. bye all.06:24
Zambouliethere's nobody in there06:24
fdovingok, then wait.06:24
fdovingi'm not here either.06:24
Zamboulieoh wait06:24
fdovingi'm on my way to work.06:24
Zambouliek thx06:24
fdovingbye.06:24
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InuDuelistZeeky Boogy Doog.06:25
poseidonHow can I get a scanner working?06:25
InuDuelistFeh, I can't compile again.06:25
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poseidonIt's an HP all-in-one06:25
InuDuelistWhat's with (K)Ubuntu always giving me this problem?06:26
unix_infidelInuDuelist: what do you mean yo ucant compile.06:29
InuDuelistunix_infidel: During configuration, it keeps giving me an error about my C Compiler not working.06:29
unix_infidelInuDuelist: pastebin the erorr.06:30
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unix_infidelerror*06:30
intelikeywho,dat06:30
unix_infidelwho dat foo?06:31
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InuDuelist"pastebin"?06:31
unix_infidel!pastebin06:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:31
intelikeyi can't find a game worth playing in the repos...06:31
intelikeydon't want a 3d killing spree06:32
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InuDuelistWhy would I waste my time with that?06:32
InuDuelistIt's two lines.06:32
InuDuelistchecking for C compiler default output file name...06:32
InuDuelistconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables06:32
intelikeyanything trun based that is worth looking at ?06:32
InuDuelistintelikey!06:32
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intelikeyInuDuelist install  build-essential06:33
intelikey!b-e06:33
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:33
InuDuelist...06:34
InuDuelistHow did I forget to install that?06:34
intelikeybeets me.06:34
InuDuelistRemind me never to reinstall Linux.06:34
InuDuelistEver.06:34
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intelikeyor restart it.06:34
unix_infidelYea, Linux sucks, computers suck.06:34
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intelikeyyou wish06:35
HawkwindYet another troll!06:35
HawkwindHah06:35
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intelikeyHawkwind i am not!06:35
intelikey:)06:35
HawkwindHah06:36
InuDuelistRemind me never to reinstall or restart Linux.06:36
InuDuelist...06:36
InuDuelistRemind me, already.06:36
InuDuelistFine then.06:37
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intelikeyInuDuelist i think you should reload twice a week whether it needs it or not...06:37
arejayteewhere is konqueror installed to by default?06:37
intelikey /usr*06:38
InuDuelistintelikey, don't worry.06:38
InuDuelistI do.06:38
InuDuelistUsually.06:38
intelikeylol06:38
InuDuelistI haven't rebooted since...06:38
InuDuelistI logged in here.06:38
InuDuelistLet's see how long ago that was.06:38
intelikeyi have done that.06:38
InuDuelist[21:38:36]  [Whois]  InuDuelist has been online since 08/27/2006 05:01:15 PM.06:38
InuDuelistWow.06:39
InuDuelistIt's only been two days.06:39
InuDuelistNow I know why my Windows dies monthly.06:39
intelikeyarejaytee  do dpkg -L konqueror06:39
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arejayteethanks intelikey06:40
InuDuelisthttp://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2009420,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K000059406:41
intelikeyarejaytee if you are only looking for the binarry   which konqueror06:41
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InuDuelistGosh, it's one package after another.06:42
arejayteetrying to find plugins dir so i can install flash06:43
InuDuelistUh oh...06:43
InuDuelist"Users who plan to upgrade their PC with more system memory could see some steep price increases over the next few weeks. The DRAMExchange, which monitors semiconductor spot trading prices, said that DDR prices have not only stabilized, but memory chips cost up to 20% more than earlier this year."06:43
intelikeysome where in /usr/share i'd guess.06:43
InuDuelisthttp://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/29/ddr_memory_price_trends/06:43
unix_infidelInuDuelist: so a good time to buy cheap dimms over the weekend :P06:44
intelikeyi don't plan on buying any hardware.   ever.06:44
unix_infidelintelikey: so a good time to stock up on paper and pens?06:45
ironfroggyanyone know of an IRC client that has a nice interface (not console) but actually uses irssi or something internally?06:45
intelikeyironfroggy xchat is about as close as you get to that06:46
intelikeyshort answer  no.06:46
unix_infidelironfroggy: there's konversation which is really popular. or you can try xchat which is also great.06:46
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unix_infidelirssi has been my client of choice for the past 6 months.06:46
InuDuelistunix_infidel: If only I wasn't poor on money this month.06:47
ironfroggyim very specifically looking for a GUI-based IRC client which is actually looking at a terminal of irssi or some other console based client and basically wrapping it in a nice GUI.06:47
InuDuelistironfroggy: I recommend Konversation.06:47
InuDuelistClosest thing to mIRC you can get.06:47
InuDuelistHm.06:47
intelikeyshort answer  no.06:47
ironfroggyi want to find such a thing to adapt for a project, rather than start from scratch.06:48
intelikeytoo bad06:48
unix_infidelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IRC_clients06:48
ironfroggythe end result is that i want the console client to run nohup on my server, and for the client to ssh in and connect to it via screen, so that i can use a nice irc client on my laptop without loosing the connection when it sleeps.06:48
ironfroggyand then move to the desktop without loosing the connection either.06:49
unix_infidelironfroggy: i'm not quite sure why irssi cant handle what you want.06:49
unix_infidelother than the gui end.06:49
intelikeyor bx or epic for that matter06:50
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ironfroggythe gui end is the piece thats missing from just running irssi on a remote box, which i already do.06:50
intelikeybx has a gui06:50
unix_infidelironfroggy: check out the link i posted, start there..06:50
ironfroggybut i want a nice gui instead of chatting through ssh and screen06:50
intelikeyyou wouldn't like it though06:50
ironfroggywhat is bx? just another kde/gnome irc client?06:51
unix_infideli think he means bitchx06:51
ironfroggyah. right. i could use it just the same as irssi, but it doesnt change the root of the problem.06:52
intelikeygui's are over rated06:52
intelikeythat's the root of the problem06:52
intelikey:)06:52
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ironfroggylets not get into that debate.06:53
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InuDuelistintelikey, GUIs are good.06:54
InuDuelistFor most people.06:54
InuDuelistI for one, would never use Linux if it only offered me a terminal.06:54
unix_infidelInuDuelist: lol, some people just use X to spawn $TERMs06:55
CVirusyet another g33k06:55
InuDuelistWhat you said just flew across my mind.06:55
unix_infidelyea, that happens when i'm in #python :P06:56
intelikeyand over rated when it comes to irc   what do you get with a gui?   a fanvy frame around the scrolling text !!!  big woopeedoo...  same text. fonts are scalable without a gui.... so  like i said,  gui's are over rated as far as irc goes    and in general imo.06:56
CVirusintelikey: woah .. irc'ing is all what you do on this machine !06:57
ironfroggypeople who keep saying a gui is overrated dont get the bigger picture or the future that isnt possible with text.06:57
CVirusironfroggy: totally agreed06:57
intelikeyCVirus no. is it all you do ?06:57
unix_infidelLike i said, you've gotten your suggestions, anyone who knows what you're looking for has given their two cents.06:57
CVirusintelikey: nah06:57
unix_infidelcheck the wikipedia link for a comprehensive list.  do your worst there.06:57
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zonkHello, I have a problem with installing the 6.06.1 alternate cd for i386. It always crashes during the packet installation when trying to configure xserver.org or -org or whatever. Anyone any idea?06:58
InuDuelistMmm.06:58
InuDuelistintelikey: I forgot to mention.06:58
InuDuelistI finally finished my Library.06:58
intelikeybut the subject at hand was  irc clients and the gui   so i was trying not to break out of topic there.06:58
InuDuelistActually, I still have to get lyrics, but I'm pretty much done.06:58
InuDuelistAnd I'm off to sleep.06:58
InuDuelistGood night, all.06:59
intelikeyInuDuelist glad for ya.06:59
intelikey:)06:59
InuDuelistMmm.06:59
InuDuelistSleepy time.06:59
InuDuelistG06:59
InuDuelist...06:59
InuDuelistG'night.06:59
intelikeyshalom06:59
CViruszonk: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core07:00
intelikeyprobably configures x before installing grub   if i had to guess.....07:00
intelikeythat's backwards to what it should be,  just for this very reason.07:01
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zonkwell, I guess I would need a console to type that in which seems to not come up during the installation07:01
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denver1can anyone tell me howto make a bootable cd  using Smart Boot Manager?07:02
CViruszonk: sorry ... I missunderstood your question ..07:02
intelikeyzonk you say 'it crashes'  can you define that for us ?07:02
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CVirusthe akternate CD is crashing 0.o !07:02
zonkcrashes means screen goes blank and comes back with random pattern while computer stops responding07:02
denver1can anyone tell me howto make a bootable cd  using Smart Boot Manager?07:03
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intelikeyhave you tried [alt] +[SysRQ] +r   and then [alt] +[ctrl] +[f#]      # being any of 1-4   to see if it is still responding just not displaying ?07:04
intelikeyzonk ^07:05
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dennisharrisonhello everyone07:05
intelikeythat would tell you if the kernel is still doing it's thing  or if it's truely 'stopped responding' zonk07:05
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zonknope, haven't tried. will try again and see what happens07:06
dennisharrisonI have a very confusing problem with kernel updating and acpi on an ATI amd 64 chipset, anyone know offhand what im talking about?07:07
zonkany idea what I then could do, if it still works?07:07
intelikeyzonk also you might try server-expert at the install boot prompt  there by circumventing the problem until after the primary installation.07:07
dennisharrisonwhats his problem?07:08
zonkserver-expert means the server installation?07:09
intelikeylet it install just the base system and then when you have booted into the installed system do an sudo apt-get *buntu-desktop   to get the rest of the install07:09
intelikeyzonk yes server install  is gui'less07:09
zonkwill try, thanks07:09
intelikeytherefore it wont crash on configuring x  cause x wont be installed yet.07:10
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intelikeyzonk what vidio card do you have btw ?07:11
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intelikeyand monitor ?07:11
intelikeycause it's the combonation of the two most likely.   could be just the card....07:12
dennisharrisonis his system locking at the configuring x?07:12
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intelikeywell he said it crashes    then defined as black screen with blotches of cycodelic paterns.07:13
zonkvideo is onboard intel 82845g/gl... graphics controller and monitor is some dell trinitron07:13
intelikeyk ty.07:13
dennisharrisonhuh07:13
dennisharrisonyeah thats weird07:13
dennisharrisonwhen he is trying to load live cd?07:13
zonkwell not quite psycodelic, just blue with two grey little squares mainly07:14
intelikeydennisharrison i'v seen it several times.   usually disabling vesa fixes it.07:14
dennisharrisonwhat happens if you xrandr -s 640x480 ?07:14
zonknope, almost half way through the installation with the alternate cd07:14
dennisharrisonok got ya07:14
dennisharrisonok, just curious07:14
dennisharrisonbecause I had some funky video problems recently07:14
dennisharrisonjust wondering if he can get into console when it happens07:15
intelikeyi mentioned that first.  hope he took notes.07:15
zonkok, I will try the other stuff now, have  to reboot for that, see you after that07:15
dennisharrisonhehe07:16
dennisharrisonno doubt07:16
dennisharrisonoh, yeah the reason I came in here07:17
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dennisharrisonuhmm ..07:17
dennisharrisonyeah thats right07:17
dennisharrisonI want to align text to path07:17
dennisharrisonand sad to say most of my graphic experience is with fireworks on windows and mac07:17
dennisharrisonso, whats a good simple, powerful vector art program for *ubuntu?07:18
intelikeyidk.07:18
dennisharrisonme neither ;p07:20
intelikeyi'm the guy that installs kde gnome blackbox fluxbox icewm fvwm xfce twm and then never starts X    :)07:20
dennisharrisonhehe07:20
dennisharrisonbut I need to make some logo's07:20
dennisharrisonand I don't wanna use windows07:20
dennisharrisonI tried gimp .. but its scary ;p07:20
dennisharrisonso many freakin buttons I don't know what they are07:20
intelikeyxpaint or kpaint  or something like that ?07:21
dennisharrisonill try07:21
intelikeyoo might be your answer...   like i said  i don't know   i'm just fishing.07:23
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Kevinhey can anyone point in the direction it get my kernal to 1000mhz07:25
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intelikeymacabrow looks like a troll setting up to script us   ;/07:25
dennisharrisonKevin, What the hell?07:25
Kevinno its for my srcds server :(07:26
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dennisharrisonsorry but I don't know what you're talking about Kevin07:26
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Kevincounter strike07:27
Kevini run a server for the game and it say this07:27
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KevinYou need to do a custom (re)compile of the linux kernel in order to change kernel interruptability / timer.07:27
romeoi need help getting media codecs07:27
dennisharrisonI don't know Kevin07:28
dennisharrisonyou might want to try the gentoo forums07:28
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dennisharrisonthose guys compile their kernels all the time07:28
Kevinhmm well thanks anyways07:28
dennisharrisonup to date on all the build options07:28
dennisharrisonsorry07:28
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Kevinyou would know were i could locat the file param.h07:29
intelikeyKevin iirc the default is 250  and yes i have built a 1000 kernel   grab the source and compile it.   the option is there in  make menuconfig07:29
Kevinoh ok07:29
Kevinsorry how do i get to menuconfig?07:30
romeoi tried instaling easyubuntu but i m a dweeb i keep getting errors07:30
dennisharrisonyeah use automatix instead romeo07:30
romeolook i m new soory automatic?07:30
intelikeyKevin you dl the source tarball  unpack it  cd into the source dir that the tarball makes when it unpacks  and  run      make menuconfig    in that dir.07:31
romeoautomatitix07:31
romeohmm07:31
dennisharrisongetautomatix.com07:31
romeook07:31
romeobrb i m going to have a look at it07:32
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intelikeyyou get a nice curses based menu configuration system for the kernel and you can then spend the next three days configuring and compiling the thing  :)07:32
intelikeyhave fun.07:33
KevinWell that sounds like to much work lol07:33
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intelikeyit is.  but if you want a 1000 horse power kernel that's how you get it.07:33
romeocan you give me a link please i can t seem to find it with google07:34
KevinI would like to do it but, at the same time I will endup messing it all up07:34
intelikey!automatix07:34
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.07:34
keAlthough people recommend not using such scripts, try easyubuntu (or something) instead07:35
keintelikey07:35
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intelikeyKevin confession.  i had to rebuild three times before i got it woeking right.07:35
intelikeyke not my baby07:36
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Kevinyeah, considing to my knowlage is low on linux I dont think i will attempt it07:36
_rince_mrgn07:36
intelikeyKevin well it's not likely you'll get the ubuntu team to build a special kernel for you...07:37
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KevinThey should come out with a kernel for ppl that want that, it would be much easyer07:38
intelikeylol07:38
Kevinlike windows home and windows pro07:38
Kevinubuntu home, ubuntu pro07:38
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kutanMmmmm formattylicious.07:38
intelikeyKevin isn't that ubuntu and debian you are describing ???07:38
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ubuntuhola necesito ayuda07:39
KevinLol i guess so07:39
romeook weel evryones seems asleep in auto no anwers07:39
ubuntuHi, i-m from mexico i need help of kubuntu07:39
intelikey!easyubuntu07:39
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.07:39
intelikeyromeo ^07:40
intelikeytry that one ?07:40
dennisharrisonhe said he tried that one and it wouldnt work07:40
Kevini have never heard of easyubuntu07:40
dennisharrisontry http://www.google.com/linux and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ ? ;p07:40
ubuntuwho speak spanish07:40
intelikey!es07:41
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:41
dennisharrisonintelikey, hehe07:41
ubuntuno, eske necesito saber algo, tu puedes ayudarme07:41
dennisharrisonim gonna have to remember that one07:41
dennisharrison!es07:41
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:41
intelikeydennisharrison there are factoids on most languages.07:42
intelikey!it07:42
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:42
intelikey!de07:42
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:42
intelikey!ja07:42
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ja - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:42
mshade!sp07:42
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB07:42
dennisharrisoncol07:42
Jucato????07:42
mshade!es07:42
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:42
dennisharrisonhehe sp07:43
dennisharrisonwell thats a neat feature07:43
Kevin!dk07:43
ubotuUbuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk07:43
intelikey!el07:43
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr   07:43
intelikey:)07:43
Kevin!gf07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
Kevinhmm07:44
mshade!linux07:44
ubotulinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux07:44
mshade!linus07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
Lynoure!msg-the-bot07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msg-the-bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
KevinSo is there any new cool updates comming out??07:45
mshade!gcc07:45
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:45
LynoureAnyway the bot will tell you all those things in a message, too07:45
mshade!msg07:45
ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.07:45
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dennisharrisonok, anyone here do vector graphics ?07:46
intelikeyKevin i'm about to update my person.    mount -o remount,dream-only /dev/brain /pillow.07:46
Jucatoit goes like !<query> > nick, like !mp3 > Jucato07:46
KevinLOL07:46
dennisharrisonI want to find a program that lets me align text to path and is maybe a little more simple then gimp07:46
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LynoureJucato: /msg ubotu foobar   also works07:47
intelikeyso till the next time we chat.   Shalom Aleichem!07:47
Jucatoyep yep Lynoure!07:48
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zonkthere we go, installed the server and then tried to get the desktop with sudo apt-get "buntu-desktop08:05
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zonkthen nothing really happened again, any idea what to do?08:05
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supernixwell so much for uptime some drunk hit a pole08:30
kutan...How do I use WINE?08:30
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kutanAnyone?08:32
unix_infidel!wine08:33
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:33
kutanAh thanks, I should use ubotu more often >_>08:34
Tm_Tkutan: or google ;)08:35
kutan...That too...08:35
Tm_Thehe08:35
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mxhello?08:42
mxi turned the date back to be on time with my location, and now sudo is bitching about timestamps08:42
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mxbe there a workaround?08:45
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Lynouremx: yes08:46
mxhow, may i ask?08:46
Lynouremx: man sudo  and seargh for timestamps08:46
mxalright08:46
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Lynoureif you cannot find it, ask again and I'll malk you through it08:47
kutanargh08:47
kutanI'm trying to copy files from a DVD I burned to my harddrive... it got to 15% and now it says "stalled"08:48
mxguess it isn't idiotic08:48
kutanIt won't unstall -_-08:48
mxdisc scratch? just guessing08:49
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Lynouremx: Not really, quite sensible08:49
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kutanI just burned it not even an hour ago, cleaner than a... can't think of anything but it's clean and completely unscathed08:49
Lynourekutan: There is an option for verifying the disk08:49
Lynourekutan: If I remember right it's right in the install menu08:50
DHGEkutan: look at your logs in /var/log08:51
kutanIt's telling me it can't read some of the files08:51
kutanand I can't burn the disk again because I was trying to get the stuff I wanted before I formatted to get rid of Windows08:51
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kutanand I formatted already..08:51
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DHGEthen ...08:52
kutanI guess... I'm screwed08:52
DHGEsome options: try another drive - let yours cool down (next day, moon) - read as root08:53
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feethi. i just installed kubuntu-desktop. now i want to get ubuntu-desktop and everything associated with it. but when i do that, only the virtual package goes, nothing else. how can i get rid of GNOME now that ive got kubuntu?09:00
feetthanks09:00
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scabootsscaok how do i run a file from command line? i havnt used linux in a while and i cant remember.09:00
mxsca: ./file09:00
mxgotta give the directory09:01
scabootsscaahh i was forgetting the .09:01
mx:p09:01
scabootsscathanks09:01
feetget rid of*09:01
mxno probs09:01
mxhehe feet, that looked a little odd at first, i must admit09:01
feetlol09:02
feetyeah i just noticed :P09:02
unix_infidelhow can i use export to prompt me to enter a env variable value?09:02
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mxhow did you install kubuntu-desktop?09:02
feetapt-get09:02
mxah09:02
mxi'm not saying that this won't break your system, cuz i don't know enough to tell, but.. apt-get remove ?09:03
feettried doing apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop09:03
feetonly ever gets rid of the virtual package, nothing else09:03
mxah09:04
mxhmm09:04
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DHGEfeet: no easy way - U better let it the way it is, unless you want to sort out whats needed or not on your own (MUCH and dangerous work)09:05
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feeti cant leave it how it is, i need the disk space09:05
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DHGEapt-get clean09:05
DHGEclears cache09:05
feeti know09:05
mxhmm09:05
feethow does that pertain to my problem09:06
mxdoes it output anything if it does anything?09:06
feetThe following packages will be REMOVED: ubuntu-desktop09:06
feetAfter unpacking 41.0kB disk space will be freed.09:06
feetwoo hoo, a whole 41 kb, bravo >_>09:07
mxheh09:07
feetlol09:07
mxA meta-package is a package that doesn't contain applications within itself, but simply depends upon particular versions of other packages, so that when it is installed, it drags all of them in too.09:07
AZ_ASthat reminds me...there a way to clean out the dependencies after trying a program and deciding one doesn't want it?09:08
scabootsscamx it says permission denied it's in the home/username directory09:08
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Tm_Tdeborphan for example09:08
mxhmm.. sudo?09:09
DHGEAZ_AS: aptitude should do it - but I do not like the handling of this program (it is also more or less aptitude or else to function properly)09:09
feetwell i could always get dpkg to list ubuntu-desktop's dependencies, and then do a great big sudo apt-get remove (copy and paste everything here) ?09:09
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feet=\09:09
Tm_Tfeet: or just remove some crucial package, something like libgnome09:09
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DHGEscabootssca: chmod +x file (if you own it)09:09
Tm_Tthat'll pull down everything gnome-related, I think09:10
AZ_ASI 've been using Adept mostly to install the packages but wondering if the purge function might work for that purpose and delete dependencies or am I wrong in thinking that?09:10
Tm_Tor most of it09:10
Tm_TAZ_AS: purge removes config files09:10
DHGEAZ_AS: Ur wrong - purge weeps config-files and stuff like that09:10
AZ_ASok, ty...had been wondering how it differed from remove09:11
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feetoops09:11
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feetwhat was that was just mentioned? libgnome?09:11
DHGEAZ_AS: been there ;-)09:11
Tm_Tfeet: something like that09:11
feetit isnt there09:11
feethmm09:11
Tm_Tfeet: I didn't say that is there, "something like that" ;)09:12
AZ_ASso apitude's my only choice then for something like that?09:12
feetwell, "something like that" isnt to helpful..09:12
feetbut ill have a look09:12
Tm_Tfeet: use search09:12
feetapt-cache here i come09:12
Tm_Thehe09:12
feetoh dear lord09:13
feetbig list09:13
DHGEfeet: and you NEW KDE stuff! <eg>09:13
Tm_Theh09:13
feetima just list everything in ubuntu-desktop with dpkg and do it that way09:13
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feeti had kubuntu before, then i wiped it by mistake, and couldnt find kubuntu cd so resigned to using ubuntu one09:13
Tm_Tfeet: apt-cache search gnome | grep lib | grep core09:14
Tm_Tfeet: that might help09:14
feetive already decided lol09:14
feetoh wait09:14
feetthat helped a bit09:14
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Tm_Tsoo, I'm not totally useless afterall ;)09:15
feetno, my mistake. no entries at all09:15
feetlol09:15
feetoh wait09:15
Tm_Thaha09:15
feetisnt there a defaultish gnome package?09:15
feetlike there is kde base09:15
feetneed to find gnome's one..09:15
DHGEfeet: I repeat myself: you want to sort out whats needed or not on your own (MUCH and dangerous work)09:16
feetive done it before you know09:17
feetjust not quite the same way09:17
Tm_T:)09:17
Tm_Tit's adventure ;)09:17
feetand i dont want to sort through everything manually, i want to get rid of GNOME and thats final *huff*09:17
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DHGEfeet: repeat again? ;-)09:17
Tm_Tfeet: libgnome3209:18
feetlets try that09:18
feetnope09:18
feetonly gets rid of a few09:19
Tm_Thmm09:19
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Tm_Tfeet: libgnome* ? =)09:20
feetlol09:20
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feetthats it!09:20
feetwoo hoo for wildcards09:20
Tm_Tyeah, brutal09:20
Tm_Tmake sure you don't remove anything you don't have to09:21
Tm_Tor should09:21
feetlol09:21
feetits all fine09:21
Tm_Thehe09:21
feetif it gets rid of things gnome depends on, and gnome wont even be around, no worries09:21
feetwhile im here09:22
feetanyone ever seen this message on apt-get before? its bothersome: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `libieee1284-3' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed09:22
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feetlol09:23
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kutanI'm confused09:26
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kutanI was taking a look at some stuff09:26
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kutanwhile I was in the directory on the DVD I have09:27
kutanand I did "find"09:27
kutanIt seems like it sees everything in the DVD but it has a problem copying all of the files09:27
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kutanDoes it seem like there's anything wrong with that?09:29
huacan i ask a question,i need help09:30
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kutanYou don't have to ask to ask a question but, don't expect me to help... I fail at linux09:30
huahmmm...09:31
feetyea askl away09:32
feetwhat have you to lose :)09:32
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lexincmust be a long question09:34
kutanSo.. does anyone have a solution to my problem? >_>;09:34
lexincare you trying to burn a dvd09:35
kutanI already burned the DVD09:35
kutan5 actually09:35
lexincit failed to work properly then?09:35
kutanYeah, it seems to be able to read it fine and sees everything on it09:36
DHGE!dvd09:36
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages09:36
kutanbut when I try to copy the files onto my desktop (etc.) it tells me it can't read it because of an error09:36
lexinctry looking on the websites to see if other people got the same error and fixed it09:37
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DHGEor better: which error - tell us09:37
lexincyeah'09:37
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kutanhold on, it takes for ever to recognize it has an error09:38
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kutancp: reading `WoW-1.12.0-enUS-patch.exe': Input/output error09:38
LeeJunFani/o error would be a corrupt file - bad burn. Did you copy to DVD as files or did you make an iso image?09:39
kutanCopied as files09:39
LeeJunFankutan: open konsole and type dmesg you'll probably see an I/O error there.09:39
Tigerxhi all09:40
lexinchi09:40
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kutanwoaaah dmesg gives me a bunch of I/O errors09:40
Tigerxche si dice?09:40
LeeJunFankutan: yep, bad burn. If you make an iso image first then burn at least you have something to md5sum against.09:40
Tigerx09:41
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kutanI'm afraid I can't do that...09:41
kutanI already formatted... ._.09:41
lexincmaybe burn slower09:42
kutan>_< That means I just lost 20 gigs worth of files...09:42
LeeJunFankutan: not neccesarily. Unless you get that with every file. Maybe the corruption is just in that one file?09:43
kutanI tried 3 or 4 files on the DVD09:43
kutanmaybe I should try one of the other DVDs I burned09:43
lexincoutput could get overloaded09:44
LeeJunFankutan: did you burn them from windows or linux?09:44
Tigerxbluuuuuuuuuuu baby09:44
Tigerxuuuuuuuuuuuuh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh baby blu09:45
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kutanWindows09:45
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kutanNow I'm tryin to get em on linux09:45
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kutan-_- the second DVD doesn't even seem to load09:48
kutan /cdrom has nothin in it >_>09:48
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LeeJunFankutan: you don't have another computer to try them in do you?09:49
kutan... :(09:49
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LeeJunFankutan: maybe if you clean the lense of your DVD drive? q-tip / alcohol09:49
LeeJunFanvery sparingly with the fluids.09:50
chris449hi i'm in a command prompt only situation atm, how do i manually start the network?09:50
chris449*eth109:50
LeeJunFanchris449: ifup eth109:50
chris449damn09:50
LeeJunFanchris449: if it's been configured before - it will get the configs from /etc/network/interfaces09:50
chris449it's already up09:50
DHGEchris449: man ifup (might need modules)09:50
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chris449oops09:51
chris449how do i get out of the manual?09:51
DHGEq09:51
chris449lol09:51
chris449thanks09:51
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chris449i'm new to kubuntu and linux in general and my friend tells me to try xgl, so i look for a guide on the net and follow it, but now it doesn't seem to start xserver09:52
chris449i wanted the network support to re-install xserver09:52
chris449but to no avail09:52
LeeJunFanugh, installing those puts some other crap on your system too. uninstalling them is a pain.09:54
chris449lol i dont' really want to uninstall it09:54
chris449but i thought i already had xserver installed?09:54
LeeJunFanchris449: it installs modified xserver I think. You get the one from the beerokid repos?09:55
chris449yeh09:55
lexinchey new color09:55
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chris449crap, still can't ping my router09:56
chris449hmm09:56
chris449it just didnt' like my eth09:56
chris449i have dual ethernet and just changed to the other one09:57
chris449anyone tried xgl?09:57
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chris449will apt-get still install a package if the public key is not available? i know i get that warning about not being certified or something09:58
kutanHmmm Can I use windows media player 9 with firefox in linux using WINE?09:59
LeeJunFanchris449: I've had it working before. It just wasn't practical for me, not with kde decorations not working.09:59
LeeJunFanUsing gnome window decorations in KDE is an ugly hack.09:59
LeeJunFanchris449: it will ask if you want to proceed.09:59
chris449LeeJunFan: i like my kde and i want xgl lol, i guess u can't have everything09:59
CViruskutan: I apologize for this .... but ... WHY THE FUCK do you want to do that ?10:00
LeeJunFanchris449: nope, I figured I'd wait until it worked better with KDE. It was okay, but nothing I couldn't live w/o.10:00
LeeJunFankutan: you probably can but if you install the right codecs, kmplayer will do just about every media type in konqueror.10:01
kutanWell I feel the same way... kinda... I need in order to watch some videos on a website... if there were an easier way I'd love to know10:01
LeeJunFan!restricted > kutan10:01
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CVirus!restricted10:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:02
CViruskutan: ^10:02
chris449LeeJunFan: i'm having a problem where it won't even get to the login screen coz something's screwed up. i know how to change it bak to normal xserver, but would it be because i'm missing cgwd-themes?10:03
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kOpterYello :)10:03
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kOpterI've got a strange problem: on cold boot, my hardware sometimes doesn't get recognized... So I have no mouse, network or anything...10:03
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kOpterAnd the strangest thing is that rebooting solves it 9/10 times...10:04
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LeeJunFanchris449: no, but you might be able to gather some info from /var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/kdm.log10:04
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DHGEkOpter: get a new battery (2-6 EUR)10:05
chris449LeeJunFan: i hate sifting through logs in text mode10:06
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DHGEchris449: grep EE10:06
kOpterDNGE> It's not the BIOS battery..10:06
chris449DHGE: what's that?10:07
DHGEman grep10:07
chris449lol busy atm10:07
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kOpterDNGE> The BIOS is fine.. the system boots up (IDE etc are detected okay).10:07
chris449i got no xserver...10:07
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LeeJunFanchris449: when in doubt man :) grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:07
rtyurinhello10:07
DHGEkOpter: How old is the mobo?10:07
chris449ok10:07
chris449i was using vi10:07
kOpterDHGE > I't a Pentium 2 GHz.. so probably around 510:08
chris449LeeJunFan: will that tell me all the problems that it's having?10:08
DHGEU are lucky - 5 years is a GOOD battery life10:09
stuart_rtyurin:hello10:09
LeeJunFanchris449: yes, if you understand what it's telling you.10:09
rtyurin       kde keyboard tool10:10
chris449LeeJunFan: i think "Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found" can only mean one thing10:10
LeeJunFanchris449: heh, that pretty much sums it up.10:10
chris449LeeJunFan: apt-get install nvidia-glx told me i had the latest version, is there something else i'm missing?10:10
chris449LeeJunFan: these drivers keep screwing me over, i get bsod in windows coz of the drivers when playing fear10:11
LeeJunFanchris449: the xserver that came with the xgl stuff may have overwritten it.10:11
chris449LeeJunFan: i just ran it then10:11
LeeJunFanor just won't link to it because it was compiled against wrong X.10:11
chris449i don't understand?10:11
DHGE!xgl10:12
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:12
LeeJunFanchris449: I'm not sure about the nvida stuff but you may have to install by hand - not apt-get10:12
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chris449LeeJunFan: i don't [i] need[/i]  compiz to run xgl do i?10:13
kOpterDHGE > I just don't understand why HD and videocard work perfectly, but network and mouse are just gone10:14
DHGEkOpter: Me not either - I had these symptoms several times in the last 20 years - a new battery cured them more than 5 times (different machines)10:16
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elvinits as if there were pieces of it falling up and towards the left a little bit, but to the right more10:17
kOpterDHGE > I think it has a rechargeable battery.. but that can offcourse also be failing...10:18
kOpterDHGE > Only problem is now that I'd have to take apart my barebone with 3 HD's + 2 HD Coolers :)10:19
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DHGEkOpter: RT(F)M of your board - "Only problem is now ..." AAHH now I see ;-)10:20
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DHGEkOpter: maybe with this machine it's just too COLD on cold boot - your pc loves HEAT  <eg>10:21
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rjbhi, somthing weird about recent updates - why does adept want to remove kdelibs-bin??10:29
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chris449LeeJunFan: hey hey!! it's working10:33
chris449LeeJunFan: refresh rate is a little slow but it's great!10:34
kOpterDHGE > It's kind-of thight in there :)10:34
DHGEkOpter: been there - done that ...10:35
chris449does anyone know how to up the refresh rate?10:35
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ironfroggyi configured my cups printer with kprint, and it works from kde apps.but, even tho firefox can see it and says it successfully prints, i never see anything print from it.10:41
chris449is there a show desktop shortcut? kinda like the gnome one?10:43
rjbi went for the update to kde-3.5.4, and now handling of removable media seems to be broken - is this a known bug?10:43
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D4rklyhi does anyone know how i can convert mp3 to mp4 ?10:52
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maltaethironok guys, question...10:58
maltaethironit was gonna take forever to download a torrent right?10:58
maltaethironwell10:58
maltaethironi right clicked on the torrent like in ktorrent and clicked "manual announce" (just to mess around with things), and then all the sudden..10:59
maltaethironive got a bunch of seeders and leechers10:59
maltaethirondid i do that? or is it a coincedence?11:00
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kutanHmmm11:10
kutanI try to uhm11:10
kutanInstall the drivers for my NVIDIA card11:10
kutanbut it gives me this error11:10
kutanERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the11:10
kutan         package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,11:10
kutan         then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.11:10
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CViruskutan: sudo apt-get install binutils11:12
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xanax`hello11:12
kutanYeah heh I just got that, now it gives me another problem11:12
CViruskutan: read those errors messeges before you ask please11:12
kutanAlright this one I can't understand though11:12
kutancause I have no idea what it means11:12
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kutanERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before11:13
kutan         installing.11:13
kutan...What's X? -_-11:13
osh_kutan: the graphical interface.11:13
osh_kutan: the "framework" that kde is built on. sort of.11:14
AZ_ASspeaking of X, there should be a way to run it or start it up to run an X app when running Kubuntu as a virtual machine?11:14
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kutanWell how do I get into the konsole without being in X..?11:14
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osh_kutan: ctrl f1. or ctrl-alt-f111:15
|brad|osh_: X will still be running...11:15
|brad|he has to log out11:15
|brad|and when he gets to the kdm screen click console login11:15
|brad|that will drop you to a console with out X11:15
kutanah okay11:15
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kutanHmmm alright so like when I finish installing if it works properly, how am I gonna get outta the console and to the login screen?11:16
kutanI'm not too keen on commands >_>11:17
|brad|you gonna wanna reboot11:17
|brad|you are installing drivers anyways11:17
kutanOh so it'll probably just ask me if I wanna restart right?11:17
|brad|heh, no its not windows :)11:17
|brad|just type sudo reboot11:17
kutanlol okay11:17
kutanThanks11:17
kutanbrb then11:18
nagyv_is here someone who could help me to connect to the net using my mobile phone? (sony-ericsson D750) I have tried with easyconnect, but probably I don't know how pppd works.11:18
|brad|good luck to ya11:18
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|brad|nagyv_: wow its a linux phone?11:22
nagyv_|brad|: no, it's a mobile phone :)11:22
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|brad|i just used kppp to get mine working11:26
|brad|and that was a couple of years ago11:26
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|brad|anyone ever recompiled their kernel on kubuntu?11:28
redondo81can you suggest me a good partition editor for kde?11:28
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|brad|read my last msg in #ubuntu11:29
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redondo81ok brad , thanks11:29
z00mredondo81: qparted ?11:29
|brad|redondo81: well thats 2 votes for qtparted :)11:29
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redondo81ok, I'll tr it11:30
redondo81try11:30
kutanFunny story, It didn't work.11:30
kutanhold on.. gonna get the log11:30
kutansomethin about CC error11:30
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|brad|are you sure you install binutils and all its goodies?11:31
kutanYeah11:31
|brad|ok everyone cross your fingers im rebooting a remote system after recompiling the kernel.... hope it works :011:33
z00m|brad|: good luck ;)11:34
kutano_O11:34
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j2daoshi have 2 windows boxs upstairs... one of those boxes is eviler then the other and i would like to block that computer from being able to get at my shared drive. can i change the workgroup im sharing to and only share with the nice computer, while still being able to network to the other workgroups?11:36
|brad|woot! worked11:37
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j2daoshfabcon198211:37
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|brad|j2daosh: there are better ways of doing that11:37
j2daoshim sure there are11:38
AZ_AShmm, any ideas on how to run x11 apps when you're running Kubuntu in a virtual machine?11:38
|brad|its been a while since ive messed with samba11:38
j2daoshme too11:38
j2daoshanother question, how to i connect to a windows box that needs a password i dont have :P11:38
|brad|but what if you change security to user and just not add a samba user for the computer11:39
j2daoshthat is what it is set as11:39
|brad|j2daosh: use the user and pass of the person that is logged in?11:39
j2daoshbut it shared to entire network11:39
j2daoshill be back on about 30 minutes (have to go to work now)11:40
|brad|wish i could irc from work....11:40
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kutanScrew it... I can't deal with these problems right now D:11:48
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kutanI think I'm gonna wait until I have an extra computer I can screw around with that I can install kubuntu on11:49
kutanSee ya all11:49
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calvinhello, goodmoring12:02
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|brad|yo yo12:06
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ocjeunessesalut12:11
ocjeunesseje cherche un antivirus sur kubuntu12:11
Lynoure!fr12:12
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:12
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ubuntunas12:13
osh_ocjeunesse: http://sourceforge.net/projects/clamav12:13
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ubuntuhola?12:14
ocjeunesse <osh_>oui je les installer mais je ne sais pas ou il est12:14
Lynoureocjeunesse: There are also commercial ones. Do you want one for a desktop or a server?12:15
ubuntualguien habla espaol?12:15
Lynoure!es12:15
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:15
osh_ocjeunesse: My school-french isn't good enough to keep conversations on. Please speak english.12:15
osh_ocjeunesse: Something here? http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=antivirus12:15
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jorikhow can i get KDE to mount whatever DVD was inserted when i started the computer? i keep all my music on that DVD and i'm getting tired having to go to media:/hda before i can listen to my music :/12:18
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nagyv_jorik: you can automount whatever you want if you add it to your /etc/fstab file12:19
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Kr[4] t05jorik: You can put a bash script in ~/.kde/Autostart that mounts the DVD to a certain directory, as well.12:19
Kr[4] t05nagyv_: I'm not sure if /etc/fstab is a good idea for removeable media.12:20
nagyv_jorik: I would prefer Kr[4] t05's idea :)12:20
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jorikcool i didnt know about ~/.kde/Autostart ...12:20
Kr[4] t05jorik: It's a useful tool. Just paste this into a file in kate.12:21
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jorikbut then i have to repeat it for my sister and my parents aswell, right ? what's the downside of using fstab ?12:21
Kr[4] t05jorik: if the DVD isn't in the drive at boot-up, things could get ugly.12:22
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jorikah ok12:22
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Kr[4] t05jorik: ok, scratch that.12:24
jorikpretty as a picture ?12:24
Kr[4] t05jorik: Hold on a sec...12:24
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|brad|anyone have sata2 working in (k)ubuntu12:27
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cox377Hello all12:29
cox377some time ago12:29
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cox377i added folders to my desktop then ran a command that would look to a drive on a remote computer, the script looked something like this12:30
cox377mount -t smbfs -o guest //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/share /home/admin/Desktop/xxx12:30
cox377but there is a lot of shares, and the only way to renable them on start up is run the command through terminal every time, is there a way to add them into the start up script?12:31
Kr[4] t05jorik: "#!/bin/bash" <return> "sudo mount -r -t iso9660 /dev/<disc> <mountpoint>"12:31
Kr[4] t05cox377: fstab12:31
Kr[4] t05!fstab > cox37712:32
jorikKr[4] t05: but, if that's a bash script i put in Autostart, how will it get my pass from stdin ?12:32
nagyv_Kr[4] t05: wouldn't it b better to use pmounter? actually ubuntu uses it too, to outomount everything12:33
Kr[4] t05jorik: ?12:33
Kr[4] t05nagyv_: Maybe you should handle this?12:33
Kr[4] t05I have to get ready for school.12:33
cox377is this about my question?12:33
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Kr[4] t05cox377: Did you read the link ubotu gave you?12:34
nagyv_cox377: I jsut get back, it's for jorik12:34
zarrellihi12:34
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jorikKr[4] t05: well, it uses sudo ... maybe i can leave it out if i put something in fstab ... wasn't their a "everyone can mount" directive ?12:34
cox377there just loading up now12:34
Kr[4] t05jorik: Yeah... Specify all of the information with these mount options: "ro,noauto,users12:35
Kr[4] t05"12:35
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jorikthx man !12:36
nagyv_jorik: I would put this under Autostart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2203512:36
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jorikpmount, hmmm ... looks good, i'll try it12:37
josh__what was the ommand to change username?12:37
josh__"/nick"?12:37
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j2daoshyep12:38
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cox377I've looked @ the fstab stuff, so i think i understand that the mount point etc etc, but where does the external share location go?12:41
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denver1does anyone know how to creat a Smart Boot Manager bootable cd12:43
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tjbIs kubuntu the same as ubuntu apart from using KDE by default?12:47
ubuntuhello people12:47
Tm_Ttjb: yes, same base12:47
ubuntuhow do i edit ubuntu12:48
Tm_Ttjb: difference is in desktop apps and settings12:48
tjbokay12:48
ubuntumake it cane bill gates12:48
ubuntusoftware12:48
j2daoshanyone know where i can get a tutorial on setting up security for samba? i dont wanna share folders with everyone on the network, just my other box needs access to my files. however everything is shared to everyone via samba12:49
ubuntu lol12:50
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tjbHow do (k)ubuntu and mandriva compare?12:51
jott_j2daosh: man smb.conf ? ;)12:52
j2daoshim looking for a most easily understandable/better written way if possible12:52
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jott_(search for hosts allow ...there are various examples in the man page)12:52
cox377back to adding this script to start up?? is it possible?12:54
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cox377mount -t smbfs -o guest //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/share /home/admin/Desktop/xxx12:54
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jott_cox377: why not use fstab?12:55
j2daoshcox, just connect with konquer and drop a link on your desktop to it...12:55
cox377jott: i didn't quite understand how to add the share location12:56
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cox377j2daosh: do u mean a link on the desktop that runs the script?12:56
jott_cox377: hm.. well its <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>12:57
cox377is file system the share drive or the local machine?12:58
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jott_cox377: so fs is your share, mount point is where you want it, type is smbfs options might be username=guest and dump/pass should be 012:58
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cox377ok, cool cheers shall give it a go12:59
jott_just unmount it... place the entry in your fstab and test it with "mount mountpoint" ...01:00
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cox377jott_: to u literally mean "mount mountpoint" or is mountpoint replaced with the MP entered in the fstab?01:04
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cox377ok, cool it mounted it01:05
cox377just permission denied01:05
cox377i wonder if it's the guest part01:07
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cox377jott_ i assume the user name is guest as thats what has previosly worked but not with the fstab, u got ideas mate?01:12
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pete__need some help here, im trying to play a dvd on x86 version or this distro, on kaffeine, im getting plug-in errors, is there any other music / dvd players i can install ?01:19
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cozomohi I amhaving problmswwwith  mykeyboarrrd ihave to holddd downakey for 1.7 or so seconds fro it to input01:20
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OpeNZanyone here having trouble with firefox not opening mail links into thunderbird?01:24
cozomohi I amhaving problmswwwith  mykeyboarrrd ihave to holddd downakey for 1.7 or so seconds fro it to input01:27
pete__how do i mount my dvd-rom drive ?01:29
OpeNZcozomo: menu > system settings > regional access > accessibility01:29
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cozomooh god THANK YOU01:30
OpeNZcozomo : then keyboard filters tab and uncheck "slow keys" box01:30
cozomoOpeNZ: You ROCK01:30
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darintenbi'm thinking about installing kubuntu on an older machine.. but i'm wonder how old is too old?01:32
darintenbi was originally going to try opensuse, but was advised against it.01:32
darintenb.. i've only got 64mb of ram01:32
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MuLLeRhiya .. got some troubles installing kubuntu on a laptop .. if the installer says .. the ali chipset is not supported is it ok to continue installation01:38
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MuLLeR?01:40
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yuggeHey guys. I can't seem to get the battery monitor working for my Packard bell R1939D (http://support.packardbell.com/se/item/index.php?pn=PB42BD0191&g=1400) can anyone assist me with it?01:59
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cox377hello again02:09
cox377i'm trying to play this game02:09
cox377http://www.fox.com/24/game/index.htm02:09
cox377does anyone know how to make it work under kubuntu firefox?02:09
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OmegaNineDoes kubuntu barrow from ubuntu?  I like KDE, but Ubuntu is so well thought out, i dont wannt jump ship.02:12
JucatoOmegaNine: what do you mean by "barrow" (borrow)?02:12
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OmegaNineIs it just ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome...And I guess so, just asked in Ubuntu :P  heh02:13
JucatoKubunt is Ubuntu (without GNOME) using KDE. Underneath, they're practically the same02:13
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JucatoHi Hobbsee!02:13
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Hobbseehey Jucato02:15
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JucatoHobbsee: Red-Sox was asking about you a couple of hours ago in #kubuntu-offtopic02:17
HobbseeJucato: okay, thanks02:18
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larson9999i'm still not sure i like the idea of the whole "let's call it a new distro if you use a new WM."  i'm not dead set against the idea either.02:21
Jucatowell, let's just take into account Kubuntu's unique history...02:21
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grizzly!kernel02:22
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild02:22
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grizzlyI installed a suspend2 kernel with a help of few deb files. Now do I go about backing it up? if possible02:24
grizzlyor just tell me where exactly is it 'stored' ? as in which directory/files02:24
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larson9999xbuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu, fubunt, edubuntu, icebuntu, wf95buntu, tmbuntu, yourbuntum, mybuntu, even macbuntu.  seems like it makes the already mindboggling choice of distros seem even more scary to the new folk.  i suppose that's the good thing about FOSS, you can do what you want even if "I" am not totally thrilled with the idea :)02:25
Jucatolarson9999: you only have to take into account the 4 currently "official" names02:26
Jucatobtw, Kubuntu and Xubuntu (I don't know about Edubuntu) are NOT separate distros, but just derivative projects...02:26
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Jucatoof course, it may be a bit confusing, but who says we always have to follow the conventional way of naming distros...02:27
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larson9999Jucato: like i said, the good thing about FOSS is you can do it even if I'm not thrilled with the idea :)02:28
Jucatoehehe02:28
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baldihello02:32
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TheFuzzballhello, how do I get Kubuntu to activate my Wireless card and connect to a network without having to run wlassistant?02:35
{^S_perfecT^}hi i have problem tp install wine...i am newbie...i have dowload it and i am typing in console ./tools/wineinstall and i get error: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH".can anybody help me ?? sorry for my bad english :S02:35
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TheFuzzballrun sudo apt-get install build-essentials02:36
TheFuzzballor build-essential02:36
Jucato"build-essential"02:36
Jucato(just confirming)02:36
TheFuzzball:)02:36
arejayteewhy the frig do the repositories stop responding for me !!!!! ARRRGGHHH , but i can browse the bastards in konqueror02:37
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Jucatoarejaytee: what servers/mirrors are you using?02:37
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TheFuzzballanyway, who knows how to get a wireless card to be active on startup and connect as well, without the use of wlassistant?02:38
arejayteedepends onn which ones start working for me lol02:38
arejayteewas using su, then us then uk then just archive.ubuntu.com02:38
arejayteesu=au02:38
arejayteei got to install yakuake and then its back to waiting for headers in adept02:39
Jucatoarejaytee: it could probably be a proxy problem? I'm not exactly sure how these proxy things work...02:39
arejayteeconnection time outs in apt-get02:39
arejayteeproxy is false02:39
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Jucatohmm...02:39
arejayteealso i cant seem to be able to drag windows into other desktops like i could on the live cd its wierd02:40
{^S_perfecT^}i am getting this.: E: Impossible the finding of parcel build-essential02:40
Jucatoarejaytee: where are you trying to drag them?02:40
arejayteeto the right and left of the screen02:40
Jucatoarejaytee: check your settings for this...02:41
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JucatoSystem Settings > Desktop > Window Behavior >  Advanced Tab > Active Desktop Borders set either to "ALways enabled" or "Only when moving windows"02:42
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arejayteeahh ur a champ02:44
Jucatoarejaytee: ehehe! you're lucky. I just discovered that a few days ago :-D02:44
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Jucatohi DaSkreech@02:46
DaSkreechDamn Bwoy!02:46
DaSkreechYou fast :)02:46
Jucatolol02:47
Jucatoit's just a cowink-e-dink..02:47
HawkwindDaSkreech: Good morning02:47
HawkwindJucato: Good morning to you too02:47
JucatoGood morning Hawkwind!! (even if it's night time here... ehehe!)02:47
DaSkreechMorning Hawkwind02:47
Jucatolooks like you guys are up and ready to face today's set of questions02:48
DaSkreechzzzZZZZzzzzzZZZ .errm eh?? what?02:48
DaSkreechCoffeeeeeee02:48
Jucatoanyone know of a good mind mapping tool, aside from KDissert? (does Kivio count?)02:48
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arejayteewhats the command to copy a file with a diff name? looking through bash commands but cant see it02:49
Jucatoarejaytee: cp <old name> <new name>02:50
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arejayteedanka02:50
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Jucatocome again? what's "danka"?02:51
arejayteesudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sourcesus.list ?02:52
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Jucatoarejaytee: yep, as far as I know02:53
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liviuxHola to anyone02:54
grizzly /var/cache/apt/archives - will burning this folder to a cd, and then copying it back work as a backup?02:55
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grizzlyDon''t want to create a repo cd, just want to bcakup downloaded stuff02:56
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alessiociao  a tutti02:58
DaSkreechgrizzly: I guess but it'd be old02:58
DaSkreech!it02:58
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:58
Jucatohmm..02:58
Jucato!ph02:58
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog02:58
Jucatolol..02:58
grizzlyold as in ?02:59
Jucatohow come our info isn't in our local language?!?!02:59
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alessio#kubuntu-it02:59
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DaSkreechJucato: Who?02:59
Jucatothe response of ubotu for !ph03:00
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arejayteeis there a link so i can read up on commands and such for using in terminal? (like cp and dpkg and so forth (i dotn actually know what dpkg does lol )03:00
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atkaazmHi! What utility can I use to detect when battery is below certain percentage(or mAh) and shutdown my laptop? (not using X.org!just console)03:01
Jucatohttp://jucato.multiply.com/journal/item/31 <--- transcript of the previous #ubuntu-classroom session about command line basics03:01
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arejayteesweet thanks Jucato :) glad u hear tonight :)03:02
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Jucatoif only OO.o uses MDI... I wouldn't be torn between OO.o and KOffice..03:02
Jucatoarejaytee: ehehe sure03:02
arejayteehere even03:02
Jucatono problem! :-D03:02
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atkaazmdoes acpi-support do that ?03:04
TheFuzzballhi, when I type sudo apt-get build-dep kdebase I get: E: Build-dependencies for kdebase could not be satisfied.03:05
TheFuzzballdoes anyone know how to fix this?03:05
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grizzlypossible to backup a non-default kernel ?03:08
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TheFuzzball!kde3.5.403:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:08
TheFuzzball!repositorys03:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repositorys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:08
TheFuzzball!repository03:08
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:08
hermeshey03:09
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arejayteewierd sudo cp sources.list sourcesau.list aint working03:10
JucatoTheFuzzball: you could /msg ubotu for your private searches03:10
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TheFuzzballJucato, or I could just !whatever it :)03:10
TheFuzzballerr, how do I fix E: Build-dependencies for amarok could not be satisfied.??03:11
JucatoTheFuzzball: !whatever > TheFuzzball . just don't flood the channel03:11
TheFuzzballJucato, it would be nice if someone actually helped in this channel, currently other than you telling me off there is nobody saying anything03:12
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JucatoTheFuzzball: I would help if I knew how to solve your problem. I don't "tell people off" just for fun03:13
RogueThunderSo... hello... someone hinted to me roughly 8-10hrs ago that he might be around and capible of assisting in the troubleshooting of my wlan card... which happens to be prism 54 based.03:14
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TheFuzzballJucato, I am sure you don't, I'm sorry, I just have a headache and a bad day, sorry if I've offended you03:14
RogueThunderMight that person, or someone elce capible of helping me be around and... willing to help at this insane time of day?03:14
DaSkreechTheFuzzball: Whats up?03:14
DaSkreechTheFuzzball: Do you have sources inyour ummm sources.list?03:15
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TheFuzzballDaSkreech, yea...03:15
grizzlywhere are keyboard shortcuts for kubuntu stored ? Anyone?03:16
arejayteeman this is shitting me :( loved it when it actually worked and i could install yakuake03:16
arejayteebut thats all its done lol03:16
TheFuzzballDaSkreech, firstly I have been trying to get Kopete working all day then something went wrong with my sources.list and I had to get another one off my brother and now I am trying to get Amarok 1.4.2 working properly03:16
DaSkreechTheFuzzball: Are you trying to build it from source?03:17
TheFuzzballDaSkreech, Amarok 1.4.2? no, I got a repository03:17
DaSkreechAh So why are doing a build-dep ?03:17
Jucatogrizzly: System Settings > Regional and Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts03:17
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TheFuzzballDaSkreech, to give it everything it needs to run properly03:18
DaSkreechTheFuzzball: That's not waht build-dep does03:18
DaSkreechApt-get install does that03:18
TheFuzzballDaSkreech, well, I tried to do it with kdebase and it says that it could not be satisfied.03:18
DaSkreechIt's a one line error?03:19
grizzlyJucato: I meant in which file. for backup03:19
TheFuzzballDaSkreech, yea03:19
Jucatogrizzly: oh..03:19
DaSkreechCan you paste it here?03:19
Jucato!pastebin03:19
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:19
TheFuzzballDaSkreech, E: Build-dependencies for amarok could not be satisfied.03:19
DaSkreechOr pastebin it :)03:19
TheFuzzballDaSkreech, that's it03:20
DaSkreechAnd you tried apt-get install kde-base?03:20
TheFuzzballDaSkreech, or for Amarok anywya :)03:20
arejayteemother fucker it was copying it, click on another file and they all show up wtf ? ive gone in and out of that folder so many times lol03:20
DaSkreech!language03:20
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:20
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arejayteeekk sorry03:20
JucatoTheFuzzball: are you trying to compile kdebase?03:20
Jucatorawr ignore me03:21
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DaSkreechWho's rawr?03:21
Jucatorawr = roar = grrr...03:21
RogueThunderAnyone around able to assist me with troubleshooting a prism 54 based usb wireless network card? And willing, of course.03:21
arejaytee=rar03:21
DaSkreech:tries to refrain03:21
arejayteelol03:21
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arejayteeis there a refresh command or is it because my laptop is slow that the files are showing up/disappearing after i cp or rm them03:22
TheFuzzballDaSkreech, no, I am trying to upgrade kdebase from 3.5.3 to 3.5.4 along with all of the other apps, but it broke sources.list03:22
=== RogueThunder sabaotoges all this refrainment with ninja mp3 players
DaSkreech:counters with Master ninja ogg players03:22
=== DaSkreech blasts. Why am I doing : ?
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JucatoTheFuzzball: would it be ok if you pastebin your sources.list?03:23
TheFuzzballJucato, sure, hold on03:23
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eniguys when i run GUI apps in root console i get this :03:24
eniXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server03:24
eniwhat to do ?03:24
DaSkreechHmm03:24
Jucatoeni: use kdesu03:24
Jucato!kdesu03:24
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo03:24
DaSkreecheni: Try kdesu GUi_App03:24
Jucatodon't run a root console03:24
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eniJucato: i did sudo su, to get root :S03:24
DaSkreechHa ha :)03:24
TheFuzzballJucato, http://pastebin.com/77969903:25
omeganineHow do i make the system beep go away in KDE?03:25
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Jucatoeni: I think sudo -i is the more proper way to do that. but still... use "kdesu <program>"03:25
HobbseeJucato: better running a root console than a root GUI03:25
enii used ubuntu :|03:25
eniomeganine: yeah, im hating it too :)03:25
enihow to get beep turned off ?03:25
JucatoHobbsee: well, you need a root gui for Adept... :-D03:25
enior better.. how to get system sounds turned off.03:25
eni?03:25
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omeganinethat alone would make me go back gnome03:26
TheFuzzballJucato, if you could give me a complete sources.list that would be great03:26
HobbseeJucato: true that.  kdesu03:26
Jucatosystem beep or Konversation beep?03:26
omeganineSystem beeps, like when you tab in a terminal03:26
eniomeganine: omg, you just switched from gnome to kDE :) just like me..03:26
DaSkreechHi Hobbsee03:26
Jazonfinally!  1600+ fps with my ati x30003:26
JucatoSystem Settings > Sound and Multimedia > System Notifications03:26
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SkrotHow is linux+nforce these days?03:27
TheFuzzballJucato, you there?03:27
Jucatoyou can set the settings for System Notifications on all KDE apps from there03:27
JucatoTheFuzzball: still reading...03:27
arejayteeGRRRRRRRRRRRR apt-get update work u bugger03:27
TheFuzzballJucato, k03:27
arejayteelol are there remote assistance tools for kubuntu03:28
DaSkreecharejaytee: What's the problem?03:28
arejayteenot that i could install it anyway03:28
DaSkreechJucato: You can set it to be in your language?03:28
DaSkreechIt's installed already I think03:28
omeganinehttp://www.arsgeek.com/?p=484  <---Turn off system beep03:29
JucatoTheFuzzball: where did you get these repositories? http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/ubuntu03:29
Jucatoomeganine: I think I already mentioned something03:29
arejayteeDaSkreech: my net is working perfectly, i can browse to almost any repository, but if i run sudo apt-get update NOTHING ! just wont get the info03:29
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omeganineJucato: I want it gone gone, not just for one app at a time03:29
TheFuzzballJucato, they were in the Kubuntu 6.06 Beta CD03:29
arejayteeadept just sits there saying waiting for headers and never gets info03:30
JucatoTheFuzzball: hmm...03:30
Jucatohold on03:30
RogueThunderAnyone around able to assist me with troubleshooting a prism 54 based usb wireless network card?(linksys wusb54gv1...) And willing, of course.03:30
DaSkreecharejaytee: I've heard of the servers being overworked and people not being able to update03:30
DaSkreechpaitence?03:30
Hobbseehey DaSkreech03:30
arejayteefor 6 days?03:30
Jazonhi03:31
omeganinemmmm much better03:31
DaSkreechRogueThunder: Have you read !wireless?03:31
Jucatoomeganine: there's a "Turn Off All [Sounds] " button and an "Apply to all applications" option in System Settngs...03:31
RogueThunderive tried that stuf...03:31
DaSkreecharejaytee: Umm No I haven't heard of that :(03:31
HobbseeRogueThunder: ah, arent there native drivers for the prism stuff?03:31
DaSkreechOk Just checking03:31
Hobbseeor is it only some prism stuff?03:31
omeganineJucato: I got the idea it was all sounds, not just system beeps, my bad...03:31
RogueThunderyeah... i cant manage the install process03:31
JucatoTheFuzzball: that could probably be the source of the problem. just probably though03:31
RogueThunderthough i suspect they arnt working03:31
arejayteeyeah it worked this morning after i changed  to uk.archive and i got to install yakuake but after that it stopped again03:31
RogueThunderif they came default...03:31
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RogueThunderI suspect its either some driver conflict, or bad driver, or something.03:32
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TheFuzzballJucato, the problem started when I added the KDE 3.5.4 repository, then when I deleted them and updated it was still there03:32
RogueThunderAmong other things, the preticular card, has 2 different cards, based on the same prism 54... that in windows use the same driver.03:32
cisounbonjour!03:32
RogueThunderBut ndiswrapper, only has my card twin brother listed, and didnt load the card when installed(with the proper driver).03:33
JucatoTheFuzzball: you're using KDE 3.5.4 right now?03:33
cisouny'a kelkun ki utilise aMSN?03:33
RogueThunderOnly good thing i can say, is its a good learning experiance.03:33
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TheFuzzballJucato, no, the repository screwed up sources.list so I deleted it and kept KDE 3.5.3 but then kopete crashed on startup :'(03:34
RogueThunderBoth twins CAN be found in the supported models list of the prism 54 native driver... but as i said i got lost trying to install it.03:34
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RogueThunderSo like i said... anyone capible and willing to assist me with configuring this conflabbin prism 54 linksys usb card?03:35
DaSkreech!fr03:35
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:35
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JucatoTheFuzzball: when you say "screwed up sources.list", what do you mean? and did you already start downloading/installing KDE 3.5.4 before you removed it?03:36
VincentMXi can speak french too03:36
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TheFuzzballJucato, I mean it made it say it coulden't download something when I ran sudo apt-get update and yes I did already start downloading03:37
VincentMXje heisze VincentNX03:37
VincentMXhmm03:37
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VincentMXno that's german03:37
VincentMXnm03:37
JucatoTheFuzzball: that could be a problem if it already installed some things for KDE 3.5.4, while the rest of your system is KDE 3.5.303:38
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DaSkreecharejaytee: has it ever updated?03:38
TheFuzzballJucato, so how do I update my entire system to KDE 3.5.4?03:38
Jucatoof course, it might have just downloaded and did not install anything03:38
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JucatoTheFuzzball: btw, to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4, you might have to use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of upgrade only03:39
atkaazmHi! Does any one know a program like klaptopdaemon for console only? to monitor battery status and run a script when x percent of power available.03:39
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arejayteeahh this is getting on my nerves lol03:41
RogueThunderAnnyway... yet again i ask anyone capible and willing to assist me with configuring this conflabbin prism 54 linksys usb card?03:41
Hobbseeatkaazm: i'd use apt-cache search keyword for something like that03:41
jottRogueThunder: hm aren't the linksys usb sticks supported by linux-wlan-ng?03:41
RogueThunderThats a good question.03:41
jottRogueThunder: http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz03:41
Philip5atkaazm: kde comes with a feature like that03:42
Philip5atkaazm: laptop battery in system settings03:42
JucatoTheFuzzball: the only suggestion I could make right now is to get a more "official" sources.list03:42
TheFuzzballJucato, from where?03:42
Jucatohold on...03:42
DaSkreech!kde03:42
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE03:42
DaSkreechHmm03:43
atkaazmPhilip5: yes, but i've no X.org :) i want something for console only03:43
RogueThunderIts on there, but who knows if it actualy remembers to take note of the 2 versions of version one...03:43
atkaazmHobbsee: did apt-cache search battery found aproximately nothing relevant :D but thanks ;)03:43
JucatoTheFuzzball: you can try this one: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources03:43
TheFuzzballJucato, ta03:44
JucatoTheFuzzball: I would personally prefer not to include the PLF repos. but that's your choice to make :-D03:44
TheFuzzballplf/03:44
TheFuzzball?*03:44
jottRogueThunder: well have you installed linux-wlan-ng?03:44
RogueThunderNo clue, how mchg i check?03:44
jottwhat do you mean by 2 versions?03:44
RogueThundermight03:44
RogueThunderugh03:44
jott!info linux-wlan-ng03:45
ubotulinux-wlan-ng: utilities for wireless prism2 cards. In component main, is extra. Version 0.2.3-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 129 kB, installed size 596 kB03:45
RogueThunderLinux newb here... that doesnt tell me how to check if i have it or not.03:45
jottso you proably need to fetch the firmeware as it sounds03:45
JucatoTheFuzzball: Penguin Liberation Front: a repository for some proprietary stuff that Ubuntu officially considers as "non-free" or restricted03:45
jottnever  used the wlan-ng stuff..03:46
kyaneoshas someone an EPSON printer or multifunction?? please03:46
TheFuzzballJucato, ahh03:46
jottbut..03:46
jott!info linux-wlan-ng-firmware03:46
ubotulinux-wlan-ng-firmware: firmware files used by the linux-wlan-ng driver. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2.3-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 54 kB, installed size 232 kB03:46
jottthis is also there..03:46
DaSkreechJucato: Why is the Liberation Front then?03:46
JucatoDaSkreech: huh?03:46
jottRogueThunder: so when you installed the ng package you might try the supplied tools... (wlancfg sounds useful ;)03:47
DaSkreechJucato: If it's trying to promote a set of packages which are intended to enslave the Penguins why is it called the Liberation Front?03:47
RogueThunderummm03:47
RogueThunderi cant even figure out if i have the ng package03:47
RogueThunder...03:47
JucatoDaSkreech: aaah... I have no idea...03:47
RogueThunderi never installed it myself03:48
jottRogueThunder: so you can query it by "dpkg-query -l linux-wlan-ng"03:48
jottRogueThunder: so you probably don't have it ;) just install it via adept or "aptitude install linux-wlan-ng"03:48
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RogueThunderno packages found matching that03:48
RogueThunderso03:48
RogueThunderno03:48
RogueThunderi dont have it03:49
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RogueThunderhum, so it would be found on the cd copy?03:49
JucatoDaSkreech: you can also look at it this way: it liberates the user from the constraints/choices of the distro, giving him/her (it?) more stuff to choose from03:49
jottRogueThunder: hmm main should be on the cd i think...03:49
DaSkreech..... that are meant to enslave the penguins...03:49
RogueThundercus, the computer involved has no net acess03:49
jottjust try it;)03:50
TheFuzzballJucato, how do I do this, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php03:50
TheFuzzballJucato, without breaking anything :)03:50
jottftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/FAQ you might read this i guess..03:50
RogueThunderThankfully my ... er... that cant be a good error03:51
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DaSkreechWhat is?03:51
DaSkreecharejaytee: How goes it?03:51
JucatoTheFuzzball: add the repository for KDE 3.5.4 (choose one server/mirror), sudo apt-get update (Fetch Updates), then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (Full Upgrade, then Apply Changes)03:51
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RogueThunderoh, i stuck the disk in and it gave me a read error03:51
RogueThunderthere we go03:51
RogueThunderjust a hair got on it03:51
JucatoTheFuzzball: don't for get to download and add the GPG key03:51
RogueThunder4 cats... *chuckles*03:51
arejayteeit doesnt thats how lol03:52
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arejayteeand ive just realised that my usb key has fallen off my keychain damnit03:52
TheFuzzballJucato, do I download the key first?03:53
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VincentMXanybody got experience with ipv6?03:53
JucatoTheFuzzball: use the commands on that page. the wget command03:53
DaSkreecharejaytee: Have you tried a new sources.list ?03:53
DaSkreech!sources03:53
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:53
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jottRogueThunder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%2903:54
jottits also in the wiki as it seems03:54
jottor help page03:54
TheFuzzballJucato, ok, so I download the key add it, then can I delete it from where I downloaded it?03:54
arejayteeseveral my friend, i now have copies of uk us au and normal archive by itself lol03:54
JucatoTheFuzzball: you have to add it first with the apt-key command. I'm not sure if it's safe to delete it afterwards03:54
RogueThunderA red star... and the message Linux >= 2.6.13-rc1 requires pcmciacutils instead of pcmcia-cs03:54
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RogueThunderbut the rest of the stuf sounds good03:55
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RogueThunderinfortunately it said that right after Setting up it...03:55
RogueThunderand stoped there03:55
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arejayteewhat annoys me the most is i can access them through browser but not through apt-get and so forth03:56
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TheFuzzballJucato, I have just added it updated then apt-get dist-upgrade and it said there was nothing to update, and then when I installed kopete again it crashed :'(03:59
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JucatoTheFuzzball: that's strange..04:00
Jucatoit should upgrade if you are still using KDE 3.5.304:00
JucatoTheFuzzball: run "kded --version" what version of KDE does it display?04:01
TheFuzzballJucato, KDE: 3.5.404:01
JucatoTheFuzzball: then you're using KDE 3.5.4 already..04:01
TheFuzzballJucato, so why is it crashing?04:02
supernix My upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 was not a fuss free one04:02
supernixthe kdm is missing the outline for the login boxes04:02
JucatoTheFuzzball: hm.... I'm still thinking...04:03
HawkwindTheFuzzball: 3.5.4 still has problems....several of us have had to go back to 3.5.304:03
JucatoHawkwind: I've had problems, but it's generaly usable04:03
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TheFuzzballHawkwind, how do completly downgrade from KDE 3.5.4 to 3.5.3?04:03
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DaSkreech3.5.5 ftw!04:04
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HawkwindI say we just jump right to 3.8.x04:05
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TheFuzzballHawkwind, there is no 3.804:06
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ravenousthe 4 snapshot was  released04:06
Jucatolol04:06
ravenousmonkey with that ;)04:06
TheFuzzballHawkwind, the next major release is KDE 404:06
HawkwindTheFuzzball: Better read the site again04:06
Jucatowhat site?04:06
TheFuzzballHawkwind, link?04:06
HawkwindTheFuzzball: 3.8.x is available04:06
Hawkwindkde.org04:06
ravenoushaha04:06
Jucatohmmm04:06
JucatoHawkwind: you're serious?04:07
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TheFuzzballHawkwind, the latest announcement is KDE 3.5.404:08
HawkwindI've read about it 3.8.x somewhere.  There are tarballs of it04:08
Ethosanyone running steam on wine?04:08
JucatoHawkwind: that just seems so intelikely04:08
RogueThunderHummm04:08
Jucato i mean unlikely04:08
Jucatosorry..04:08
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TheFuzzballHawkwind, as far as I know KDE4 comes next04:09
JucatoTheFuzzball: actually there would be KDE 3.5.504:09
TheFuzzballJucato, the next major release04:09
Jucatoaaah04:10
RogueThunderhummmm04:10
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Hawkwind3.8 was a pre-snapshot actually.  It's the actual version number of the upcoming KDE 404:10
ravenousthe 4 snapshot is out now though04:10
JucatoHawkwind: you're probably referring to "Krash"?04:10
HawkwindJucato: There's going to be a kubuntu meeting, thursday next week, 2100 UTC - can you be there?04:10
TheFuzzball!kde404:10
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org04:11
HawkwindThat URL does not work04:11
RogueThunderwhen i use dpkg-query -l linux-wlan-ng would this be a normal message if it was installed and working right?04:11
DaSkreechI think her domain is down04:11
TheFuzzballthere are no KDE4 screenshots, only mockups that people have made to taunt everybody04:11
RogueThunder| statys=not/installed/config-files/unpacked/failed-config/half-installed04:11
bipolarright now KDE 4 looks just like kde 3.5.04:12
bipolarno major UI changes have been done04:12
jottRogueThunder: thats just a header...04:12
kyaneoshas somebody an EPSON printer?? please04:12
ravenousthe snapshot is out though, its all guts though nothing visual has been done yet04:12
RogueThundergood04:12
RogueThunderi wasnt sure04:12
Hawkwindkyaneos: I do04:12
DaSkreech!printer04:12
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:12
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jottthere should be a line starting with "ii linux-wlan-ng..."04:12
DaSkreechkyaneos: Those links can help I should think04:12
RogueThunderyep04:12
RogueThunder^.^04:12
RogueThundergood04:13
JucatoHawkwind:  I'll be there. even though it's 5am here... @_@04:13
RogueThunderi hope it just compleatly ignored that no pcmcia card would work right in this thing due to ...04:13
RogueThundersince, this installs on a desktop04:13
kyaneosthank you very much04:13
RogueThunderi doubt it will ever come up04:13
RogueThunderlol04:13
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enihow do i remove the system beep ? the one in konsole ?04:13
kyaneosbut i can not load the gutenprint driver04:13
JucatoHawkwind and ravenous: http://dot.kde.org/1155935483/ <--- first developer snapshot of KDE 4 "Krash" is that you guys were referring to?04:13
jotthehe RogueThunder i got one desktop with pcmcia somewhere here ... ;)04:14
RogueThunderoh04:14
RogueThunderive seen04:14
RogueThunderand worked with it04:14
ravenousthats what i was talking about, the dev snapshot04:14
DaSkreecheni: I think Jucato explained that to you. Scroll back up to the last time you asked04:14
RogueThunderbut this computers a junkyard wreak that i resurected and intend to use for a pcb design slave slash bittorrent slave.04:14
jottbut its running netbsd not linux ;p04:14
kyaneosHawkwind: is it a multifunction?04:14
RogueThunderit will likely never see another hardware setup04:14
HawkwindJucato: That's it.  3.80.104:14
Hawkwindkyaneos: I have the Epson Stylus Photo R220 that prints on CD/DVD as well04:15
kyaneosmm04:15
JucatoDaSkreech: huh?04:15
kyaneosHawkwind: what driver do you use?04:15
DaSkreechJucato: Eh?04:15
kyaneosHawkwind: or what packages have you installed?04:15
RogueThunderwell... my laptop has a special applet in kubuntu to make it work right :P (blasted sony laptop)04:15
JucatoDaSkreech: oh that... lol04:15
Hawkwindkyaneos: I just went to systemsettings and clicked on Printers.  It actually pulls up kprinter and just works out of the box04:16
RogueThunderNot that i have room to install..04:16
Hawkwindkyaneos: I don't have it hooked to this box at the moment though04:16
jottRogueThunder: so when you installed just try to replug your usb stick04:16
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kyaneosmm ok04:16
RogueThunderJott: oooh this is fun... hehe, anyway meh i let it have a full reboot04:16
jott.. ;)04:16
kyaneosHawkwind: other question, has that printer various color cartridges?04:16
jottthis is not windows ;p04:17
RogueThunderjott: what i like watching the boot information...04:17
kyaneosHawkwind: what do you do if a color is finished?04:17
RogueThunderjott: :P indeed, i know how to psuedo reboot windows without actualy rebooting it for most perpouses04:17
Hawkwindkyaneos: Yes, it has 6 cartridges.  5 color and 1 black04:17
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RogueThunderO.o04:18
RogueThunderHawkwind: what psyco company did that might i ask?04:18
HawkwindRogueThunder: It's done to help eliviate wasting ink04:18
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Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Hey04:18
HawkwindRogueThunder: That way if your blue or yellow runs out and the rest are half full, you only replace the one and you don't waste any unused ink04:19
RogueThunderHawkwind: yes... but 5 colors makes no sence colorwheel wise...04:19
ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: you on dapper?04:19
Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Yepp.. :)04:19
HawkwindRogueThunder: Sure it does...how does it not ?04:19
jottHawkwind: but supports drying ink ;>04:19
RogueThunderHawkwind: it would normaly be a multiple of 3...04:19
HawkwindRogueThunder: Ummm it is multiple of 3, hence having 6 cartridges04:19
ravenous;)04:19
RogueThunderHawkwind: i ment the color carts, black is a seperate system04:20
ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: use adept and install kcontrol-autostart , or open up konsole and run "sudo apt-get install kcontrol-autostart"04:20
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kyaneosHawkwind: can it print without a cartridge??04:20
HawkwindRogueThunder: Well you don't need 6 colors, only 504:20
Hawkwindkyaneos: Absolutely not04:20
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Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Doing so..04:20
DaSkreechWoah04:20
RogueThunderHawkwind: just thinking pigment/light mixing... not psyco epsion thinking that inevitbly works perfectly.04:20
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kyaneoswhat printers are well supported: HP or EPSON?04:20
RogueThunderIronicaly... i own a working epsion printer nearing 10 years of age... still prints beautifully04:21
Hawkwindkyaneos: Obviously Epson since they work out of the box04:21
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kyaneosHawkwind: i do not understand what means out of the box04:21
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Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Got it... Damn neat function... =) As in I have fixed it... not n00b anymore! :D04:22
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ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: found it in kcontrol?04:22
Hawkwindkyaneos: I plug it in, click on printers to set it up and it just works04:22
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jottkyaneos: well take canon for example... for good support you need the commercial turboprint driver :/04:22
kyaneosHawkwind: i am trying to load the gutenprint, and it refuses me04:22
Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Yep... Already added what I need! :D04:22
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ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: good 04:23
Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Yep04:23
RogueThunderOk... so now that i have this odd thing installed, shouldnt my wireless card still show under network settings? or am i wrong there04:23
HagbarddenstoreHow do you do that =) icon?04:23
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ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: another cool thing... all applications that are running when you log out, will restart (autostart) when you log in, even after shutdown04:23
jottRogueThunder: well go do konsole and do a "ifconfig -a" and see if you got some ethX wlanX wifiX interface04:24
ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: I smile-napped it, and put it into konversation 0.19's autoreplace04:24
Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Neeeat... But that worked before to... Activate Session Manager..04:24
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Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Aha04:24
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HagbarddenstoreI prefer Xchat cause I don't know hoiwto mkae scripts for Konversation...04:24
HagbarddenstoreAnd Xchat is much nicer to me... =)04:25
RogueThunderive got an eth0, which as before im betting is still my dlink wired card, and a eth2, that... i cant realy tell what is04:25
HagbarddenstoreHm.. Is there a KDE-ftrontend for MPD ?04:25
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RogueThunderAnd then my loopback, of course.04:25
HagbarddenstoreHm... KDE is quicer than Xfce... hmm?? :S:S04:26
jottRogueThunder: so try "iwlist eth2 scanning"04:26
ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: XChat is ick... dunno... look it up in adept or apt-cache search it04:26
Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Look what up?04:26
ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: did you install kubuntu-desktop?04:26
supernixwhat is the address for pastebin ?04:26
RogueThundereth2 no scan results04:26
ravenous'iwconfig' will show just wireless connections, if thats what your looking for use that04:26
Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Original CD...04:26
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gregoryczy mwi ktos po polsku tutaj?04:27
ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: the frontend04:27
ravenous!pastebin04:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:27
ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: ah04:27
gregoryczy mwi ktos po polsku tutaj?04:27
ryanakca!cz04:27
Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: Ah.. ok04:27
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.04:27
ryanakca!ru04:27
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help04:27
gregoryczy mwi ktos po polsku tutaj?04:27
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gregory_czy mwi ktos po polsku tutaj?04:27
RogueThunderJott: it gives me eth2 no scan results04:27
Hagbarddenstoregregory_: NOT IN HERE!04:27
jottRogueThunder: at least it seems to be a wireless card as otherwise it should say "does not support scanning" :)04:27
RogueThunderXD04:27
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RogueThunderthats... consoling... i think04:28
ryanakcagregory_: this is an english channel04:28
ravenousagain, iwconfig will tell you whether it is or not04:28
ryanakca!pl04:28
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl04:28
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RogueThunderiwconfig does grab eth2 as a wireless card...04:28
DaSkreech!pl04:28
ryanakcagregory_:  since your from .pl, I'm guessing that'S polish04:28
ravenouswell it more than likely is then04:28
supernixok this is the error I get when I run adept and install something http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2204604:28
jottso thats  a good start :)04:28
RogueThunderinfact it still has my configuration i set earlier... which... wouldnt make sence04:28
DaSkreechDamn04:28
ryanakcaDaSkreech: it's because I just said it... look up, 10:2804:29
HagbarddenstoreHm... I would need SMP kernel for Core DUo correct?04:29
DaSkreechNot fast enough04:29
DaSkreechryanakca: Yeah yeah I saw :-(04:29
HagbarddenstoreOn the Kubuntu CD... Is there a way to install the SMP kernel directly from the cd?04:29
DaSkreechHagbarddenstore: Good guess :)04:29
supernixany ideas how to fix that ?04:29
HagbarddenstoreDaSkreech: Hehe ;D04:29
ravenousHagbarddenstore: afaik yes, so you need at least the 686 kernel04:29
jottRogueThunder: so what kind of ap do you use? wpa/wep/vpn stuff? broadcasting? ..you might have to supply the right settings then..04:29
ryanakcaDaSkreech: I was trying to figure out what language it was... russian... czeck... polish04:30
ravenousHagbarddenstore: i dont think its on the cd though, probably have to apt-get04:30
DaSkreechI got olish first but then I was in another room :-(04:30
Hagbarddenstoreravenous: Ok.. There's a line to write like Server and smp and such at loading Kubuntu live cd right?04:30
ravenousserver yeah, dunno about an smp option04:30
Hagbarddenstoreravenous: Well... I don't wanna install it after the installation..04:30
supernixDoes anyone know what to do to fix this issue ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2204604:30
ravenousHagbarddenstore: why?04:30
RogueThunderwep, ...04:30
DaSkreechsupernix: Did you press anything?04:31
Hagbarddenstoreravenous: Well... I just wanna have it up and running quick... SchoolPC...04:31
RogueThunderits broadcasting...04:31
RogueThunderum...04:31
supernixnope04:31
DaSkreechsupernix: It's asking you a question04:31
DaSkreechYou should answer it :)04:31
supernixIt never does anything but exit saying there was a problem04:31
ravenousHagbarddenstore: its one apt-get after the initial installation, its not like its time consuming04:31
RogueThunderit still has my essid i set back when i was troubleshooting before i even tried installing ndiswrapper or this other thing...04:31
Hagbarddenstoreravenous: Well.. Ok then.. ^^04:31
RogueThunderwhich04:31
supernixCould you tell me the command to do dpkg itself without using adept ?04:31
supernixmaybe that will help04:31
RogueThundermakes me think its not using the driver i just set cus... i read a very different location to set things in the readme to this... tool04:32
Hagbarddenstoresupernix: dpkg -i thing.deb ?04:32
RogueThunderJebus, is there anyway to just... check what driver a device is using?04:32
supernixwhat is the command for doing a update though ?04:32
Hagbarddenstoresupernix: man dpkg04:33
jottRogueThunder: "dmesg" should give you a hint04:33
HagbarddenstoreIs there a way to make an icon that executes more than one command? as in execute mpd, gmpc and mpdscribble at one click only... ?04:34
DaSkreechsupernix: sudo apt-get upgrade04:34
ravenousyou could try pipes in between the commands in the 'command:' option04:34
DaSkreechor dist-upgrade if you are going to a new KDE04:34
CVirusHagbarddenstore: this is called bash scripting .. or shell scripting .. google about it04:35
RogueThunderislusb: suitible configuration found for net2280 +pci device sounds like the only such thing04:35
RogueThunderwhcih04:35
Hagbarddenstoreravenous: | <-- those?04:35
RogueThunderwould probobly be the wrong driver.04:35
ravenousHagbarddenstore: yeah, dont know for sure if it will work though like CVirus a bash script may be better04:35
Hagbarddenstorepipe worked04:36
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RogueThunderJott: you agree? disagree? clueless? purple?04:36
ravenousHagbarddenstore: about the smp all you do is 'sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp' and it will install the newest 686 smp enabled kernel in the repos04:37
Hagbarddenstoreravenous: Good... =)04:37
HagbarddenstoreHm... How the .... do I disable single click?04:37
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RogueThunderooooh04:38
RogueThunderi know that one!04:38
RogueThunderright click your desktop04:38
RogueThunderand select configure desktop04:38
RogueThunderer04:38
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RogueThunderi think its somewhere in there XD04:38
RogueThunderah04:39
RogueThunderwrong...04:39
RogueThundersystem settings(in the kmenu thingy04:39
RogueThundermouse04:39
RogueThundergeneral tab, under icons04:39
Hagbarddenstorefound it in kcontrol already! :D04:40
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ravenouskcontrol is way better ;)04:40
RogueThunder:P anyway whatever04:40
HagbarddenstoreYep! :D04:40
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RogueThunderJott?04:40
HagbarddenstoreAhhh... Love doubleclicking =)04:40
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HagbarddenstoreFInally I can select things again! :D04:41
HagbarddenstoreSpecially in Kopete... =)04:41
ravenousi got hooked on single click from running elightenment, never really went back04:41
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RogueThunder*laughs* i got hooked on double way back on dosshell04:41
HagbarddenstoreKk... Well... I kinda hate not to be able to slect things properly..04:41
RogueThunderthen again, dosshell, is just one s away from...04:42
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ravenouswell to each his own but there are settings so after a certain time interval your 'mouse-over' selects the icon .. it is configurable04:42
atidemhello04:42
ravenousnot most ppl's choice i know04:42
RogueThunder... i have trouble with that because im used to doing things faster than that04:43
RogueThundertried it once tho04:43
ravenousyeah, takes some getting used to04:43
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jottRogueThunder: sorry .....so don't know ..04:44
RogueThunderah04:44
RogueThunder...04:44
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jottso lsusb gives you a device?04:44
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RogueThunderI found this at one point "http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7091.0"04:44
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RogueThunderlsusb does indeed have the card, by id not name04:44
RogueThunderand, at the same time mysterously thinks my old style, 2 axis trackball is a "Afilas Optical Mouse"04:45
RogueThunderbut thats a minor detail04:45
RogueThunderthe mouse works just fine...04:45
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jotthmm.. soo...04:46
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jotttry to replug the card and watch dmesg..04:47
RogueThunderI like things like my mouse that are strange, but work perfectly.04:47
jottdon't know what else atm04:47
kbrookshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24720204:47
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RogueThunderi think ill try the thing i found in that one forum, now that i have a properly installed driver04:48
ravenousmy usb gamepad is the same way, totally different brand name for the driver but it runs smooth as glass *shrug*04:49
jake1where is the kismet.conf file normally located?????????04:49
RogueThunderyeah see, different brand name i wouldnt be suprised at04:49
RogueThunderits a very generic mouse04:49
RogueThunderbut were talking complealty different mouse type and hardware04:49
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ravenousthats cool i see they have a contest going for a new k3b theme for 1.004:50
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RogueThunderWEll04:56
RogueThunderthat certianly didnt work04:56
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SonicChaoHow do I use KDM's login screen instead of Gnomes?04:57
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SonicChaoAfter installing package kubuntu-desktop?04:57
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fdovingSonicChao: run this command from konsole: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm'04:58
fdovingSonicChao: then choose kdm as default.04:58
SonicChaofdoving: Does it matter if I use gnome-terminal? I'm not in KDE ATM.04:58
RogueThunderSo jott, you dont happen to have any ideas at this point...04:59
RogueThunderlike things to randomly try and pray they work04:59
fdovingSonicChao: doesn't matter-04:59
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SonicChaoOk...lets see if it works.04:59
jottRogueThunder: did you try to look at dmesg?05:00
RogueThunderyes... and told you what it says that is of note i could find05:00
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jottso after replugging it?05:00
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RogueThunderthe entirety...05:01
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RogueThunderusb 4-1: usb disconnect, adress 405:01
SonicChaofdoving: No, that didn't work. I want the login screen to change.05:01
RogueThunderusb 4-1: new high speed usb device using ehcihd and adress 505:02
RogueThunderislusb suitible configuration found for net2280 +pci device05:02
jotthm ok05:02
RogueThunderand then scedualing int bh05:02
RogueThundertwice05:02
fdovingSonicChao: it does, you have to restart to check if it worked.05:02
pointwoodhrm...where do I find keyboard shortcuts?05:02
SonicChaofdoving: Er, ok.05:02
RogueThunderoh and bunches apon bunches of numbers to the left of that, but i figure thats unrelated realy05:03
Jucatopointwood: System Settings > Regional and Accessibility05:03
pointwoodahh...there05:03
pointwoodthx05:03
jottRogueThunder: that are timestamps05:03
RogueThunderyeah, exaclty05:03
JucatoKeyboard shortcuts for general global shortcuts, command shortcuts, and application shortcuts05:04
RogueThundernothing we care about05:04
JucatoInput actions for everything else...05:04
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jottRogueThunder: http://prism54.org/newdrivers.html ok watch this05:05
jottthere is your net228005:06
RogueThunder?05:06
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SonicChaofdoving: Ok, ty. =)05:06
RogueThunderI know the card is a first gen prism 54 according to that site...05:06
RogueThunderand was at one point trying to install(well... never got anywhere but lol, the files are around) their driver05:07
jottRogueThunder: well those seem to be the one for you after all05:07
RogueThundermy card is the "19152234Linksys WUSB54G OEMNET2280, ISL3880/ISL3886?" thats untested according to taht05:08
jotthm ;)05:08
RogueThunderI have no clue how i got a oem in full retail packaging... but hey whatever.05:08
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jottRogueThunder: well try it out i would say ;)05:10
RogueThunderIs that a good hm, or a indifferent hm, or a hm your outa luck realy.05:10
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RogueThunder... i got lost in the install of those drivers05:10
RogueThundercouldnt understand the directions05:10
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jottwell download, tar xfj them, make them and hope it works ;p05:11
RogueThunderive got islsm-workbench-latest.tar.bz2... and no clue where to go from there, although i DO have the firmware file thats correct for my card05:11
RogueThunderplaced in the folder they directed me to05:11
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RogueThundertar xfj them?05:12
jotttar xfj islsm-workbench-latest.tar.bz205:12
jottbest do this in a temp dir05:12
RogueThunderah... right05:12
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RogueThunderthat did absolutely, nothing05:14
RogueThunderwaoit05:14
RogueThunderno05:14
RogueThunderit just did it so fast05:14
RogueThunderi couldnt tell05:14
RogueThunderwow05:14
RogueThunderuh05:14
RogueThunderwow05:14
jottit extracted the archive ;)05:14
RogueThunderthat normaly takes a few seconds05:14
RogueThunderit took less than a second05:14
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jottwell make sure you have done "sudo aptitude install build-essentials linux-headers"05:15
HawkwindIf you do tar xjvf  you would get verbose output and see what it does05:15
RogueThunderbuild essentials i know i have, did it ages ago05:15
jottyou probably need kernel headers too05:15
RogueThunderbut yeah kh i dont05:15
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jottas you are going to build a module05:15
jottits actually linux-kernel-headers i think05:16
RogueThunderit accepted linux-headers05:16
RogueThunderi think05:16
RogueThunder... no it did nothing05:16
RogueThundervrooom05:16
RogueThunderthere it goes05:16
RogueThunderIts cool, when my cd drive and hdd spin up together, they make the "Vrooooooom" sound05:17
RogueThunderlike an expensive sports car does going 90+mph in a 45mph zone.05:17
jotthehe remembers me of the good old 1541 floppy sounds ;p05:18
RogueThunderok... now that i have the headers installed05:18
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ubuntu_WITAM WSZYSTKICH05:18
RogueThunderI cant wait till i get my 15krpm 36gb hdd installed ^.^05:18
jotttry to do "make" in the dir you did that tar xfj05:18
DaSkreechHi kbrooks05:18
cannonballIs that scsi or ide?05:18
ubuntu_HELLO05:18
RogueThunderBash: make: command not found05:18
RogueThunderscsi05:18
RogueThunderlol05:18
RogueThunderas almost every 15krpm hdd is05:18
ubuntu_AND PLESY HELP05:19
ubuntu_LEASE HELP05:19
JucatoRogueThunder: you need to install "build-essential"05:19
cannonballjott: And the amazing speed at which it loaded files (1K per second IIRC).05:19
ubuntu_PLEASE HELP MY05:19
RogueThunderO.o weird cus i would swear i did earlier05:19
Hawkwindubuntu_: Ask your question05:19
Jucatoubuntu_: please drop the CAPS05:19
Jucatoand ask away05:19
cannonballubuntu_: You haven't asked a question yet.05:19
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jottcannonball: hehe well don't forget the speed of those datasette tapes05:19
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cannonballjott: I had very conveniently pushed that out of conscious thought.  Thanks a LOT  ;-)05:20
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RogueThunderI actualy own a 1 speed cd burner.05:21
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RogueThunderWhich doesnt support rws.05:21
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cannonballRogueThunder: Time for an upgrade methinks.05:21
RogueThunderhaha05:21
RogueThunderits not in anything05:21
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jottwell after you first could "see" the data in terms of punch cards you could at least "hear" the data from there on ;)05:21
RogueThunderits on my shelf as a musem peice05:21
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SonicChaoCan I make Konversation use a tree instead of tabs?05:22
SonicChaoThese tabs are getting really small since I'm in a lot of chans05:22
DaSkreechA tree?05:22
RogueThunderummmm05:22
cannonballRogueThunder: my little brother still has a working C-64.  It's not _useful_, but it still works.05:23
JucatoSonicChao: only in Konversation 1.005:23
SonicChaoDaSkreech: Like XChat's.05:23
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Jucatowhich will be made available soon in dapper-backports05:23
DaSkreechAh Ok :-)05:23
SonicChaoJucato: =(05:23
Jucatosoon... very soon....05:23
RogueThunder"Make: *** [madwifi]  Error 2"05:23
jottcannonball: well there are actually tcp/ip stack implementations out there ;)05:23
SonicChaoSo what do I do if I have a lot of channels open?05:23
JucatoSonicChao: you probably just have to count days...05:23
jottcannonball: so it would make a nice chat terminal ;)05:23
SonicChao>>;05:23
Jucatohmm... wait?05:23
RogueThundersomething about /lib/moduels/2.6.15-26-386/build does not exist. stop05:24
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jottoh05:24
jottyou need..05:24
jottanother package05:24
SonicChaoI might as well use XChat then.05:24
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RogueThunderyeah... thats nice05:24
RogueThunderthe question is, what package...05:24
JucatoSonicChao: your call. I'll notify you ASAP if it's available in dapper-backports already05:24
SonicChaoRogueThunder: I heard that madwifi's package is currently broken05:24
SonicChaoJucato: Ok.05:24
RogueThunderWell, thats nice...05:25
whizz-can i create a linux / windows (98) dual boot, when having linux installed first? (so.. linux is on my hd already and i want to install win on it as well)05:25
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Jucatowhizz-: is Linux sitting on the first partition of the hard drive?05:25
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jottRogueThunder: it should  be in linux-headers-`uname -r`05:25
whizz-Jucato: yes05:26
Jucatohm... I don't know about that then... I think XP always wants to be in the first partition.05:26
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RogueThunderjott: eh???05:27
Jucatobut I think it can be fooled by GRUB into thinking that it's in the first partition.05:27
_lupineXP doesn't like being so many GB after the start of the dic it's installed on05:27
_lupinedisc*05:27
_lupineit can be in not-the-first-partition though, I think05:27
jottRogueThunder: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`05:27
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jott(where uname -r gives your kernel version)05:28
RogueThunderwhat symbol is that around uname -r?05:28
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jottso linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 should work too ;)05:28
cannonballwhizz-: Windows (any flavor) doesn't like to be on a partition that is _after_ some partition type it doesn't know.  So really only a vfat or ntfs (any of the various versions) can exist before the XP one.05:28
_lupine98 will run anywhere :)05:28
jottwell it means "evaluate the command and give it as string"05:28
RogueThunderi mean on the keyboard05:28
whizz-but speaking about XP...05:28
cannonballRogueThunder: the backtick05:29
RogueThunderah05:29
Jucatojott: I think the command would be "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"05:29
cannonballRogueThunder: typically it's to the left of the 1 key.05:29
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cannonballJucato: that works the same, yes.05:29
jottJucato: well its more bash-like this way... ;)05:29
RogueThunderjap 106/107 keyboard :P05:29
cannonballJucato: the difference is the $() can be nested, `` cannot.05:29
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RogueThunder... "install: missing destination file operand after `linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386`"05:30
Jucatoaaah. I think the ` can be easily mistaken for '05:30
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RogueThunderI found my ` btw, its a shift-function if the key right of my p on my jap keyboard ^.^05:31
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jottRogueThunder: just do "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386" ..05:31
Jucatojap board... japanese?05:31
whizz-does anybody happen to know what happens when i install xp, clone the drive it is on and reset the clone after 30 days... would that reset the 30 day xp trail period?05:31
RawSewagein Konqueror, when you see folders in Detail view, how do you configure it so it shows how much data is in the folderse05:32
RawSewageThe Size is messed up05:32
RawSewageit only shows the Size of the folder itself05:32
RogueThunderMy sony laptop keyboard died ages ago, well it was outright falling apart05:32
RawSewagenot whats in the folder05:32
RogueThunderand i have been learning japanese a while05:32
RogueThunderso, for the replacement i ordered the japanese version, being its of an alternate qwerty setup05:32
RogueThunderits interesting05:32
RogueThundera bit strange at times05:33
RogueThunderbut usefull05:33
JucatoRawSewage: is it really supposed to display that way?05:33
RogueThunder@ for instance... is they key right next to p05:33
RawSewagedoes anyone understand my question05:33
RawSewageJucato, folders are supposed to show the size of the folder, that is:  the total bytes of content in the folders05:34
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RawSewagenot the total bytes of the folder itslef  (i.e. 4 kb)05:34
jottRogueThunder: they are not supposed to do this ;)05:34
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RawSewagewhy would I care how big the folder itself is (i.e. all are about  4 kb)05:34
whizz-diff question: can i move an entire linux install to for instance a second partition? or do i have to reinstall for that?05:34
jottRawSewage: ...05:34
RawSewagejott, no, it's not a ...   It's a legitimate feature requeset05:35
RawSewagedont give me that Linux attitude05:35
RawSewageI think GNOME does it05:35
JucatoRawSewage: I think the Detailed view shows how big a file is. it so happens that a folder is just a file05:35
RawSewagewhatever file manager they use05:35
JucatoRawSewage: GNOME does it even using Konqueror? anyways, let me check...05:36
RawSewageno05:36
RogueThunderAn example, though missing the hirigana tertiary functions, http://www.goldenshop.com.hk/AI-trad/gc/hard/keyjoyj.gif05:36
RawSewageusing the file manager GNOME usese05:36
Jucato<RawSewage> whatever file manager they use <---05:36
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RawSewageyes05:36
RawSewagewhatever file manager GNOME uses05:36
RawSewageyou know what I mean05:36
_lupinenautilus05:36
RawSewageyeah05:36
_lupineyuk ;)05:36
Jucatook, it was just a bit ambiguous05:36
RawSewageand dare I say it05:37
RawSewageWindows does it too05:37
RawSewageIM sure KDE does it05:37
RawSewageI just want to know what to configure05:37
RogueThunderOk.... jott, make worked now.05:37
JucatoDon't Windows and Nautilus only do that in Icon view?05:37
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_lupineit does it in detailed as well (konq.)05:37
RawSewageno, Windows does it in detail05:38
RawSewagehm05:38
_lupineTBH, the present way is faster05:38
RawSewage_lupine, does what05:38
_lupinedisplay 400B or so for the folder size05:38
RogueThunderJott: baring in mind im a linux newb with 2hrs 15 min of sleep, what do i do now? XD05:38
RawSewagein Detail view, all I see is 4kb for every folder05:38
Xcaliburhey05:39
Jucatoit's only displaying the size of the folder "file"...05:39
RawSewageI should be able to see the total kb contained in that folder05:39
Xcaliburcan I resize my windows partition(FAT32), its 9gb, it have like 4.88gb free, is there any way to make another partition for kubuntu?05:39
RawSewageok, so no one knows05:39
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jottRogueThunder: hmm don't know.. try "sudo make load" apparentely the wiki of those wifi guys is borken05:40
jottso i can't tell you more ,)05:40
Xcaliburanyone?05:40
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JucatoRawSewage: we're trying. we're not all-knowing, you know....05:41
jottRawSewage: so this would mean it has to recurse into the folder in full depth..05:41
RogueThunderoooh oooh i know atleast part of teh solution to one of these errors...05:41
_lupineRawSewage: to me, that's the best option05:41
jottRawSewage: in normal use cases this would be pointless05:41
_lupineGoing into /usr/bin is slow enough already05:41
_lupineI'd hate for /usr to be even slower05:41
RawSewageUm05:41
jottRawSewage: you could right click and do "properties"05:41
RawSewageALL file managers except Konq apparently do this05:41
Xcalibur?05:41
RogueThunder"Fatal: moduel firmware_class not found." and "Fatal: Moduel crc32 not found."05:41
RawSewagethis isnt some rare magical feature, folks05:41
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RawSewageSo Im sure Konq does it05:42
RawSewageI just want to know how05:42
RawSewagefine, you dont know.  thanks anyway05:42
RogueThunderIm guessing the first part means i need to tell it where to find the firmware file... i forget what walkthrough told me to put in an incredibly spesific location i had to learn how to create05:42
RogueThunderbut the second part totaly puzzles me05:42
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Xcaliburcan I resize my windows partition(FAT32), its 9gb, it have like 4.88gb free, is there any way to make another partition for kubuntu?05:43
Xcalibur?05:43
_lupineXcalibur: FIPS05:44
_lupine(if you're in Windows/DOS now)05:44
Xcaliburwhats that?05:44
XcaliburI'm in WinXP05:44
XcaliburI could open command promt tho?05:44
RogueThunderjott: http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/index.html i belive was it, found through exploring their forums05:44
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_lupineprogram called FIPS will non-destructively resize FAT32 partitions05:45
Jucatolol! while searching for an answer to RawSewage, I found an answer to my own question...05:45
_lupineIt's on Google somewhere; I don't know if you'll need to be in a pure-DOS mode though!05:45
RawSewageJucato, Im glad I could be of service05:46
JucatoRawSewage: I'm still searching05:46
_lupine(obviously, XP doesn't have one of those, so it'd be reboot-with-old-floppy time)05:46
RogueThundermy card, and its twin, are both first gen, and i have the firmware it says to put somewhere where it says to put it.05:46
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jottRogueThunder: whee well this looks bad :/ as crc32 is a stack kernel module (maybe its statically in the ubuntu kernel?!)05:46
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RawSewageI have trouble verbalizing my questions05:46
RogueThunderjott: O.o05:46
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_lupineRogueThunder: /lib/firmware maybe?05:47
RogueThunderJott: Bad as in another long sidetrack bad, or bad as in forget the install your... ... ... bad?05:47
jottRogueThunder: so.. don't think this can be solved easily.. probably its really broken as stated earlier :(05:47
DaSkreechJucato: Which question?05:47
RogueThunderJott: Well thats just great...05:47
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JucatoDaSkreech: my question? why some files have previews in Icon View,while other don't....05:47
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DaSkreechWhat's the answer to that?05:48
RogueThunderAll i wanted to do... was throw together a slave machine... -.-05:48
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RogueThunderJott: Well, might there be atleast a wireless card that can be suggested that works outa the box as automaticaly and trouble-free as possible?...05:48
jottRogueThunder: well i guess the easiest think would be to buy a usb stick that is supported by ubuntu out of the box for 20 bucks ;)05:48
jottRogueThunder: ah same idea ;)05:48
RogueThunderXD05:49
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RogueThunderJott: ive yet to find any kind of list including such05:49
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ravenousanything atheros based has very good support for linux05:49
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jottwell maybe somebody in here knows of one?!05:49
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RogueThunder-.-05:49
ravenousany brand, as long as the chipset is atheros05:49
RogueThunderive even found someone on the forum that supposedly has my exact card working05:49
JucatoDaSkreech: Settings > Configure Konqueror > Previews and Meta-data > Maximum File Size. any file larger than the maximum filesize won't get a preview, except for videos, I think05:49
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Xtreemsorry about that05:50
Xtreemgay fricken wireless connectiom05:50
Xtreemconnection*05:50
Xtreemanyway05:50
RogueThunderravenous: Any common ones? I dont realy care if its wireless b or g, it just needs to connect...05:50
buz!tuxguardian05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tuxguardian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
RogueThunderNot like im ever going to break the needs of 11b 14ft away from my router that is on hybrid mode for other reasons.05:50
ravenousRogueThunder: i dont know offhand i dont have one just google for 'wireless nic atheros chipset'05:51
Xtreemcan a operator boot Xcalibur plz, thats me, my wireless connection broke, plz?05:51
Xtreemand05:51
XtreemI need to find out what FIPS is?05:51
ravenousXtreem: if your registered as that nick you can use 'ghost' to boot it05:51
Xtreemo05:51
Xtreemok05:51
hryniewicki<bluesmanpl>05:51
Xtreemghost05:51
_lupineXtreem: google for "FIPS"05:51
Xtreemok05:51
hryniewickihj05:51
Xtreemhow i use ghost?05:51
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_lupine"first interactive (non-destructive)  partition splitter" is the full name, IIRC05:52
JucatoXtreem: Xcalibur is gone05:52
Xtreemok05:52
Xtreemthnx05:52
jotthaha non-destructive.. ;)05:52
ravenousand /msg nickserv help for instructions on using ghsot05:52
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RogueThundertheres a stickied topic05:52
RogueThunderi never ran into in my searching05:53
jott:p05:53
RogueThunder": How to install WUSB54G for Dapper Drake  (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)"05:53
RogueThundertake a guess my model...05:53
RogueThundertake ONE guess05:53
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ninHer_hi all05:53
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az_hi ninHer05:53
RogueThunderfirst post is for version 4... not v105:54
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_lupineFIPS is incredibly good05:54
RogueThunderv4 is a totaly different chipset... *sighs*05:54
_lupinejust remember to defrag before you use it05:54
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_lupineThe v4 is the ralink one?05:54
Xtreemwhere can i get fips, now that I know what it is05:56
RogueThunderdont recall offhand05:56
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RogueThunderive got the oem varinet of the v105:56
RogueThunderso05:56
RogueThunderit didnt realy stick to my mind05:56
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RawSewageJucato, DaSkreech, thx anyway.  I guess Konq doesnt have that feature yet05:57
JucatoRawSewage: probably not05:57
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_lupinethat "feature" :)05:58
RogueThunderJott: I suspect it can be made work with ndiswrapper... but i have to much akin to the v4 blacklist some driver that trys to load05:58
Xtreemhey, _lupine, where can I get this fips?05:58
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RogueThunderJott: it also indeed seems to be a new issue thanks to dapper drake... -.-05:58
_lupineNo idea. Like I said, it should show up in Google05:58
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_lupineOld Linux distro CDs also used to have it as well05:59
Xtreemok05:59
jottRogueThunder: hehe well i had the luck that my wlan worked out of the box :p05:59
_lupine(Red Hat 6 is where I first found it)05:59
Xtreemi'm gonna look some more05:59
_lupine!fips05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
_lupinebah05:59
_lupineAtheros and ralink are the two best-supported chipsets right now05:59
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ravenous'FIPS' download in google brings up tons of links05:59
_lupine(I've got some of both)05:59
RogueThunderJott: which would that happen to be?05:59
jottRogueThunder: oh its an onboard card intel pro wireless06:00
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jottand i got a prism pcmcia and an orinoco pcmcia card both working in an ipaq with linux ;)06:01
jottbut those are a few years old ;)06:02
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RogueThunderMy card is bloody ancient.06:02
RogueThunderbut lol06:02
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jottso its still "lucent" branded ;)06:02
Xtreemi found FIPS, can I run the .exe like right in windows, or does it require me to be in DOS mode?06:02
RogueThunderits the absolute first gen linksys 802.11g usb card06:02
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RogueThunderWell... i wish there was some way to identify the exact driver its currently loading, so i could blacklist it...06:03
_lupineprobably DOS mode06:04
_lupinethey mnight have updated it, but better safe than sorry06:04
Jucatobye guys! time for bed...06:04
RogueThunderATLEAST i kow HOW to blacklist it.06:04
ravenousRogueThunder: and you've checked dmesg? it should show what driver is being loaded06:04
XtreemI have the .exe, how I get it so it can run right off a floppy?06:05
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Xtreemand how much room should i leave around the windows partition for win to operate comfortably?06:05
_lupineyoull need a floppy that will boot in DOS mode; then you just copy it straight to it06:05
JucatoRawSewage: sorry I couldn't find anything about your problem. you could try asking in #kde. but wherever you ask, I think people would appreciate it if you were less impatient and less demanding06:05
ravenousXtreem: install wine and mount the floppy, then 'wine /mnt/floppy/blah.exe'06:05
_lupineravenous: not quite ;)06:05
_lupinewindows doesn't need wine...06:06
Xtreemyeah06:06
RogueThunderRavenous: Infortunately, not accuratley.06:06
Xtreemlol06:06
ravenousi thought he was talking about linux06:06
_lupineI know :)06:06
ravenouscd a: and run the exes jebus06:06
RawSewageJucato, I am.  I get tired of people telling me Im wrong for wanting such and such a feature06:06
_lupinenot even close06:06
_lupineXtreem: open up a command-line box ("cmd.exe"), and try "sys a:"06:06
RogueThunderRavenous: atleast, so it appears06:06
Xtreemok06:06
RawSewageAnd what a horrible stupid person I am for asking about such a feature06:06
_lupinethat's what it was on ye anciente 9x architecture06:06
RawSewagehow dare I ask for such a feature06:06
JucatoRawSewage: you're not wrong, and it's not stupid06:07
_lupineindeed :)06:07
ravenousso click on properties06:07
Xtreemit said it was not a command06:07
_lupineso XP/NT doesn't do that06:07
_lupineOK, you're going to need to find a bootable disc image06:07
ravenousor any of the windows cds06:07
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_lupinewill it give real-mode?06:08
_lupine(I'm a bit out of date when it comes to Windows)06:08
_lupine8 years!06:08
JucatoRawSewage: who knows.. it might be some hidden feature...06:08
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Jucatoanyway, good luck in your search!06:08
RawSewagety06:08
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aseigoRawSewage: descending into folders recursively to find the size is not fast06:09
aseigoRawSewage: in fact, it's the opposite of fast ;)06:09
Xtreemis there a bootable image for blank CD-r's?06:09
ravenousif fips is anything like partition magic you can just boot off the windows cd and do it there06:09
RawSewageaseigo, I never said it was fast06:09
_lupineit's nothing like partition magic :)06:09
_lupinestill, worth a try06:09
_lupine(you do have a backup, right, Xtreem?)06:09
Xtreemi don't have my win CD06:09
_lupineah :)06:10
Xtreemno06:10
aseigoRawSewage: that's why konq doesn't provide such things in it's listviews... a way around that would be to asyncronously update those stats so you could sit and stare at your screen while it hums away ... would still probalby need/want to be it's own view...06:10
_lupineoh!06:10
Xtreembut i don't care if i mess up06:10
Xtreemi mess up, I just install kubuntu06:10
aseigoRawSewage: in which case, you may want to select the "File size view" instead of the list views06:10
Xtreemlol06:10
aseigoRawSewage: (or the radial view if you have filelight installed)06:10
aseigoRawSewage: both give you what you are looking for06:10
Xtreemin this tutorial in getting ready to use FIPs, it sais to defragment, thats what I'm doing now, to make sure that all my winxp files have been moved to the front of the drive06:11
RawSewageno, not filesize06:11
RawSewagethats like a graphical thing06:11
ravenouswww.bootdisk.com if you need a fresh boot image06:11
Xtreemok06:11
Xtreemthan06:11
Xtreemthanx806:11
RawSewageIm simply asking for the feature that every other file manager has06:11
Xtreemthanx*****06:11
_lupinethat'll do it :)06:11
RawSewagethat shows a folder size in list view06:11
_lupineI just found http://bootmaster.filerecovery.biz/bm_rescue.html but not as good06:11
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_lupineRawSewage: presumably the developers of konq. don't see it as a feature06:12
_lupineI know I don't06:12
RawSewageok06:12
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RawSewageI guess theyre better than me06:12
Xtreemso, i was the DOS boot disks?06:12
Xtreemdos 6.22?06:12
RawSewageI'm a failure as a human being06:12
RawSewagefor wanting such a feature06:12
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_lupineXtreem: that'll do fine06:12
Xtreemok06:13
Xtreemit gives me a .exe file, I just put that on there?06:13
_lupineit's a .exe so presumably you just put a blank floppy in the drive and run it06:13
_lupinethen afterwards, you should be able to open it up in explorer and copy fips over06:14
_lupine(if there's not enough room, delete anything except command.com, config.sys or msdos.sys)06:14
_lupineoh, or io.sys06:14
Xtreemwell, I don't have a floppy drive, just a CD drive06:14
_lupine...ah06:14
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Xtreemis there a way to get it to boot from thag06:14
Xtreemthat*06:14
_lupineTry one of the bootable CDs06:15
RogueThunderooooh06:15
_lupineand leave the fips files somewhere conspicuous on the HD06:15
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Xtreemlike in the root of the C:\ drive06:15
Xtreemsomewhere like c:\fips-20\06:16
RogueThunderhighly detailed and easy to follow guide spesificaly for my model! this *should* work...06:16
_lupineexactly06:16
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Xtreemwell, I just burn the .exe to a blank Cd?06:17
_lupineno06:17
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_lupineok, you need to find a method to get your computer to boot up in DOS mode06:18
_lupinea bootable CD *image* would do that06:18
_lupineand you'd burn it as an image (aka. an iso ) using... well, whatever you have06:18
Xtreemwhere may i find the image I'm looking for, thats under 700MB06:18
_lupineI don't know06:18
_lupineI've not used any of this stuff for 7 years06:19
_lupineJust google for "bootable CD image" and see what comes up06:19
Xtreemcouldn't i just boot up with F806:19
Xtreemand select DOS mode06:19
Xtreem?06:19
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_lupineXP doesn't have that?06:19
Xtreemo06:19
Xtreemshit06:19
Xtreemdamn06:19
_lupineXP is crap ;)06:19
Xtreemi thought i was on a roll06:19
Xtreemlol06:19
RogueThunderpuppy linux is prehaps the most awsome bootible linux disk... *laughs*06:19
RogueThunderi couldnt resist mentioning it...06:20
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Xtreemwell, I guess i'm gonna need to find a bootable .iso06:20
_lupineThe easiest way to do this, IMO, is to backup your FAT32 drive and use the linux partitioner to delete the current partition, and make two new ones (one fat32, one for linux). Then you can just restore back on to it once you're finished06:20
_lupineyou should have a backup anyway ;)06:21
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RawSewageI dont understand how Apple's new Time Machine is going to work06:21
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RogueThunderI wish i was good with programming things... i want to make a fully featured rippoff of brutal file manager... with multiplayer!06:21
RawSewagehow does it save your computer's state every single day06:21
jottXtreem: you could always try http://www.bootdisk.com/06:21
RawSewagewouldnt that require a mega huge hard drive06:21
RogueThunderWhere you can walk around the internet *laughs*06:21
RawSewageto store copies of everything every single day06:21
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RogueThunderAnd websites show up as like... buildings06:22
RawSewage404 will confuse them06:22
hryniewickim06:22
_lupineRawSewage, presumably it's incremental backup06:22
RawSewageuse 40406:22
_lupine40306:22
RawSewage_lupine, I dont know what that is06:22
_lupineit's there, but not accessible06:22
_lupineit's where you store a record of the changes06:22
_lupinerather than a copy of each revision06:22
RawSewageoh06:22
Xtreemok06:22
Xtreemi found one06:22
_lupinegreat space savings on desktop PCs, where the major chunk of HD space is taken up by static video, image, etc06:23
_lupine(only the first backup is huge ;) )06:23
DaSkreechRawSewage: It saves all changes to each file on the file system06:23
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kilrae403 is what you're _supposed_ to give, but then again, sometimes you don't even want people to know that the article exists06:23
RawSewagekilrae, thats why I said 404.  throw them off06:23
jott_lupine: funny think would be if you move an video from one partition to another all the time ;)06:23
_lupinebut you don't want people emailing you saying "dudz0r, j00r site sux0rz" ;06:23
hryniewicki#ubuntu.pl06:24
_lupinebecause that's what'll happen if people find broken links06:24
_lupine(which is what a 404 will imply)06:24
RawSewageCan K/Ubuntu implement a Time Machine feature06:24
kilraei could just do it properly and have the option of replacing the 403 page with a 404 lookalike if a client doesn't want 403 errors to come up06:24
jott_lupine: you could redirect them to the homepage to annoy them ;)06:24
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_lupineRawSewage: look up rsync06:24
RawSewageok06:24
_lupinejott: true :)06:24
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RawSewageI figured Linux already did it06:25
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_lupineI actually do that on my sites (redirect to homepage)06:25
_lupine...mostly because I can't be bothered writing error messages! ;)06:25
RogueThunderOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!06:25
RogueThunderJott: Methinks, its about to start working now.06:26
XtreemI have a cool error message on my server :-P06:26
jottRogueThunder: oh nice ;)06:26
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RogueThunderJott: Much has changed now that i did what this walkthrough says06:26
jottRogueThunder: so you beat ndiswrapper?06:26
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Xtreemhttp://0ptix.co.nr/poop/06:26
RogueThunderJott: beat? embrased!06:26
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kilraewell, the 404 would probably say something about logging in and trying again06:26
RawSewage_lupine,  ??  rsync doesnt look like Time MAchine at all.   "rsync is a program that allows files to be copied to and from remote machines in much the same way as rcp. "06:26
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_lupineRawSewage: works well here06:27
Xtreembrb06:27
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jottRogueThunder: hehe ;) don't be to nice to it.. it will load evil windows driver ;>06:27
_lupineI've got incremental backups of my server PC going back months06:27
XtreemI g2g burn the image06:27
RogueThunderJott: Its no longer mysterously eth2, its eth1 right after eth0(my dlink wired card that will probobly never be used unless i use this computer as a bridge)06:27
RawSewage_lupine, are you sure it's rsync06:27
_lupineyep06:27
jottRogueThunder: fine06:27
RawSewageok06:27
_lupinein true linux style, you need to tell it what to do, of course06:27
RawSewage_lupine, do you do daily backups?06:28
jottRawSewage: it not rsync its rdiff ;)06:28
RawSewagehm ok06:28
RawSewagethx06:28
_lupinerdiff is just a wrapper for rsync ?06:28
_lupine(I thought)06:28
jottor even "rdiff-backup"06:28
RawSewagelooks like it's already isntalled06:28
_lupinebackups are every few days06:28
_lupinemidn you, the server's on a 4.3GB hard drive, so even full backups wouldn't exactly be huge!06:29
fdovingrdiff-backup is nice, even nicer when run from backupninja.06:29
RawSewageso06:29
peanutbhow would you set up rdiff backups?06:29
RawSewagehow do I begin06:29
RawSewagertfm?06:29
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fdovingpeanutb: use backupninja.06:29
_lupinepretty much :)06:29
peanutbok06:29
ravenousand run rdiff-backup?06:29
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RogueThunderJott: do you happen to remember the thing to add before your wep code if its ascii?06:30
_lupines: ?06:30
RogueThunderthanks06:30
RogueThunder^.^06:30
jotti don't trust wep anyway ;) using openvpn06:31
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RogueThunderJott: *groan* it doesnt work... but it definatley is closer.06:35
jott:/06:35
Xtreemback06:35
RogueThunderJott: i just use wep as a basic password, i dont expect anyone with half a clue to even try through it06:35
Xtreemok, still defragging06:35
Xtreemgot the image burned06:35
RogueThunderJott: my wireless network reaches a whole 14ft past our property... we live on a full acre XD06:35
Xtreemnow, after I install kubuntu on the second partition, how will I select the OS I want to boot too?06:36
xwolf-grub will be installed06:36
Xtreemo06:36
jottRogueThunder: THEY are watching you ;P06:36
Xtreemsweet06:36
xwolf-and at that time, he will check for other OSes06:36
Xtreemit will ask me which OS I want to boot too?06:36
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xwolf-then, upon reset, he will give you a list of possible boot places06:37
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ravenousthe grub menu will list your OS options as long as its setup right06:37
Xcaliburok06:37
Xcaliburgood06:37
Xcaliburthanx06:38
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kilraehere's another question, if a user has a private profile and someone goes to it, do you give them a 403?06:38
Xcaliburyour guys are f****** awesome here man...06:38
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XcaliburI g2g build a cage for my neighbors rabbit, and wait for the defragmenting tool to finish, cya!06:39
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ravenousi hate when rabbit cage manufacturing interferes with my computer time *sigh*06:42
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RogueThunderJott: *laughs* the v4 of my card is damn-near automaticaly supported.06:42
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RogueThunderJott: it seems ive gotten so far, that mine only needs to be configured though... which is a long ways.06:43
RogueThunderJott: By chance... what was that scan command?06:43
RogueThunderJott: or was that someone elce06:43
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jottRogueThunder: iwlist eth1 scanning06:44
madman__i changed the font size in kate. the size changed writing in kate but prints at smaller font size, like it's printing a defult setting. any help with this.06:45
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jottmadman__: there are different schemas for printing06:47
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jottmadman__: on the pring dialog unfold options and see "layout"06:47
jottor change the kate - printing scheme via kate configuartion06:47
madman__looking now06:47
RawSewageso is this fine:   sudo rdiff-backup /home/rawsewage /backup06:47
madman__i did change using the config06:48
ChousukeHmm.06:48
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ChousukeI wonder if it's proper to make directories directly under / :D06:48
RawSewagenext time I'll back up to a diff HD06:48
RawSewagebut I cant stop it now06:48
ChousukeHeh06:49
pointwoodanyone got an idea as to why I can't play .flac files in amarok (using xine), but I can in kaffeine (also using xine)06:49
RogueThunderJott: Gday... Im going to have to pester the 2 people who seem to know what theyre doing configuring these cards on the ubuntu forums now ^.- gl with your stufs n such06:49
ChousukeIt's not much of a backup if it's on the same drive06:49
RawSewagehow do I stop it06:49
Chousuketry ctrl-c06:50
RawSewagethat wont work06:50
Chousuketry again :P06:50
RawSewageI remapped Ctrl+c to Copy06:50
Chousukehmh06:50
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Chousukea silly thing to do :)06:50
jottChousuke: well with rdiff-backup it can make sense..06:50
Chousukectrl-c is very useful06:50
RawSewagewhat if I just exit the console06:50
Chousukejott: if the drive fails, the data is gone06:50
jottChousuke: sure but rdiff-backup can be used for incremantal restoring ;)06:51
RawSewagewhat if I just exit the console06:51
jottlike "give me that file as it was 3 days ago"06:51
Chousukejott: right.06:51
jottbut you are right ... its better to use another drive06:51
Chousukeyeah06:51
RawSewageplease answer now06:51
RawSewagerunaway app06:51
ChousukeRawSewage: kill it06:51
RawSewagewill exiting console terminate it06:51
Chousukefrom another terminal06:51
Chousukeuse ps -a to find out  what the process id is06:52
Chousukeps -A even06:52
Chousukethen "sudo kill <pid>" (sudo needed because it's a root process)06:52
RawSewageok06:52
RawSewage544506:53
kbrooksso kill it06:53
RawSewageok06:53
v3ctorafter you `kill` it, check to make sure it died06:53
v3ctorsome apps don't respond to the default signal kill sends06:54
madman__jott: kate/settings/config-kate/editor/fonts & colors/font tab/siez=18/click apply/click ok/ maybe i need to change default schema for kate to kate-printing / it's begening to get clear to me/ thank you06:54
RawSewageits dead06:54
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RawSewageso, should I link my other HD to the mnt folder06:55
RawSewageor should I create a new folder at root level06:55
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RawSewageand link it to my other HD06:55
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Zambouliewhere do you get linux drivers for webcams?06:59
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madman__RawSewage: i have you gave the ubuntu guide a look ?07:00
RawSewagehttp://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper07:00
madman__http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper07:01
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RawSewagety07:01
madman__http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#Hardware07:02
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Zambouliecan anyone help me?07:04
cannonballZamboulie: most hardware is supported by the kernel, you don't necessarily need to go out and 'get drivers'.07:05
Zambouliewell my webcam is all green07:05
kbrooksUbuntu? Freeware?07:05
cannonballZamboulie: google for your specific model and the word "linux".07:05
Zambouliei tried that07:05
kbrooks"Are any key programs missing? Not really, but you have to do extra work to get MP3- and DVD-playing software. Both formats are proprietary, so they aren't distributed with the all-freeware Ubuntu. Enabling digital music, for example, requires installing about a dozen file packages (with bizarre names like "gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse"), and enduring occasional encounters with the terminal window to enter commands."07:06
cannonballIt might be that yours isn't supported then.  What's the model number and manufacturer?07:06
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Zambouliepc camera 6029 CIF07:06
kbrooksUbuntu is NOT "all-freeware".07:06
Zambouliei have no clue what manufacturer it is07:06
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jdong_kbrooks: are you reading that 'is ubuntu right for you'07:08
jdong_article?07:08
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Tm_Tkbrooks: ?07:10
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RawSewagearrg  I hate Flash07:11
RawSewageit keeps messing up FF07:11
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ravenouswelcome to flash in linux, until 9 comes out at least07:11
RawSewagewhen will that be07:12
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jelleganthey, room07:12
cannonballZamboulie: if you do 'lsusb', do you see any more detail about it?07:12
ravenouslast i heard first quarter 07 is what they predicted07:12
cannonballRawSewage: go look at slashdot, there's an article about it just today (interviewed the lead developer).07:12
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kbrooksjdong_, of course07:14
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kbrooksjdong_, it must be wrong.07:14
jdong_kbrooks: yeah, i had mixed feelings about that article07:15
jdong_I think it could've given a bit more seriousness to ubuntu07:15
kbrooksseriousness = no oversimplification?07:15
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jdong_it's a pretty low-quality article, not to mention factually incorrect at times07:15
jdong_but its attitude towards ubuntu is at least somewhat accepting07:16
kbrooksi feel the article author is oversimplifying and being logically failable07:16
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Zamboulieya i got something07:16
jdong_kbrooks: yes, but I can see people reading that article wanting to give ubuntu a try07:16
jdong_kbrooks: it's an easy-to-read article for sure...07:16
kbrooksyeah07:16
kbrooksbbl07:16
RawSewagecannonball, I hate SlashDot07:16
jdong_RawSewage: I suppose you're not a digg reader then :)07:17
jdong_lol07:17
RawSewageI hate Digg07:17
ravenousthe interview doesnt really say anything anyway07:17
RawSewageI scooped a few stories on Digg, and all I get were a few snide remarks and a few Diggs.  a week or 2 later, someone 'scoops' the exact same story, and it makes the fron tpage, and everyone is gushing about what a great scoop it is07:18
RawSewagescrew them07:18
jdong_lol07:18
ravenouswow07:18
ravenousand you care? ;)07:18
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RawSewagenot anymore07:19
RawSewageI deleted Digg and SlashDot from my bookmarks07:19
ravenouslol07:19
RawSewagesame with SlashDot07:19
RawSewageI submit a story, it gets rejected07:19
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ravenouswell i dont think they're losing any sleep over that07:19
RawSewage a week later, someone posts same story, everyone gushes about it07:19
RawSewagescrew those 'democratic' news sites07:19
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RawSewageDigg is nothing more than the Stephen Colbert clip site now anyway07:20
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RawSewagetheres no news there07:20
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ravenousi go to slashdot to read, not to post or make comments or anything, works for me07:20
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RawSewageyoure reading stories filtered by idiots07:22
RawSewagebut whatever07:22
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ravenousso whats better?07:22
RawSewagenothing atm07:22
ravenouswell thats ridiculous07:23
ravenousrant that they all suck and offer no alternative, thats priceless07:23
jdong_once in a while something worthwhile comes up on digg07:23
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larson9999just had a tech interview.  i forgot the db2 syntax to extract the month from a date.  errr, how about "month" you moron!07:24
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larson9999hey! i like digg, kinda.07:25
buzdoes anyone know how i could get rid of the horizontal lines between toolbars in kde apps?07:25
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elvinyo taru07:28
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ubuntu_hallo vincentmx07:34
ubuntu_hi everyone07:34
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Dannilionhello :)07:34
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ubuntu_it- my first time i use linux07:34
ubuntu_i-m italian..so i can-t speak very well in english07:35
Sanneubuntu_: welcome :)07:35
_lupine!it07:35
ubuntu_thx sanne07:35
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:35
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RawSewageKtorrent 2.0.2 is out07:47
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RawSewagenot for 38607:49
RawSewagesoon07:49
RawSewageKubuntu 6.06 : amd64 (i386 will follow soon)07:49
leuxhi07:49
leuxi need some help for my wlan card07:49
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_lupine!wlan07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:50
_lupine!wifi07:50
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:50
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cutepinkbunnieshi _lupine07:50
leuxmy prob is i can't start no connection without activation my wlan card via a button on my notebook. but this button seems to need a driver.07:52
cathaljust after putting an extra GB of ram into my comp. Any command or GUI that will tell me the total amount of memory in my computer.? Just to confirm it has picked it up.07:53
ravenousyou dont need to wait for the i386 version of ktorrent if you just compile it07:53
Sannecathal: free07:54
Sannecathal: tells you about RAM and Swap07:54
Sannecathal: or System->KInfoCenter->Memory, if you want to have it pretty :)07:55
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cathalSanne: yep that command is fine, GUI is nice to know also. Great stuff, thx07:57
elvin07:57
Sannecathal: you're welcome :)07:57
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aka_foleywhat is a good burning program?07:59
elvin                                           -_-07:59
Sanneaka_foley: I like k3b07:59
ccc_aka_foley: k3b07:59
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jdong_k3b07:59
jdong_always k3b :)07:59
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jdong_or mkisofs/cdrecord if you want to look cool in front of your friends08:00
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Top_GEARDoes the directory /etc/sysconfig exists in ubuntu?08:00
Jazonhey, where can i get some help with xgl and compiz??08:00
jdong_Top_GEAR: no, that's a redhat thing08:01
jdong_Top_GEAR: what are you looking for?08:01
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Top_GEARjdong_: Where does ubuntu save the LANG and COUNTRY settings?08:01
ccc_!xgl > Jazon08:01
ravenousJazon: #ubuntu-xgl08:01
aka_foleyis k3b used with terminal (i don't like to use the terminal because i was 1 month ago a stuoid windows user!)08:01
Jazonthx guys :D08:02
ravenousaka_foley: its GUI08:02
jdong_Top_GEAR: hmm, good question, it's some sort of dpkg-reconfigure local thing08:02
jdong_let me look for you08:02
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ravenousaka_foley: probably the closest burning program you'll find to nero etc other windows burners08:02
Sanneaka_foley: take a look, you'll love it :) http://k3b.plainblack.com/screenshots08:03
jdong_Top_GEAR:  check /etc/environment08:03
elvinhaha shaw08:03
ninHer_k3b is great with gui08:03
ravenouscant wait to see the new k3b theme for 1.0, though i dont mind the old one08:03
Top_GEARjdong_: Thanxs. That was what I was looking for.08:03
aka_foleyi have installed it now it's very nice!08:04
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slaxyhi room08:09
ninHer_..and powerful08:09
ninHer_hi slaxy08:09
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slaxyi wanted to install kde on ubuntu ... im already downloading from package manager right now.. i just want to know that i can switch to gnome and kde at will08:10
slaxyhi ninHer_08:10
azzcoHi does anyone here use kxdocker?08:10
ravenousslaxy: yup, from 'sessions' on the login screen08:10
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slaxyravenous: well i was guessing that.. but then as far as i think.. gdm and kdm are 2 different things... [correct me if im wrong]  ... and we have to run each one to access different windows manager08:11
ravenousnope08:11
aka_foleyhow to install tar.gz files i have graphic driver08:12
ravenousthey are different but you can run either DE with either kdm or gdm08:12
azzconot really you can chose to run one and then you can chose wich session from the display manager (gdm/kdm)08:12
azzcothey have the same funktions but looks a bit different ;)08:12
ravenousaka_foley: it needs to be compiled to be installed, what are you trying to do?08:12
h3sp4wnaka_foley: How do you know that you need to install the graphics driver in that way ?08:12
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angasule!kweather08:13
ubotukweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1207 kB, installed size 2260 kB08:13
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amachuslaxy: better to run, apt-get install kde*.*08:13
slaxyravenvous, azzco: thx ....08:13
slaxyone more thing.. i have installed nvidia drivers, XGL on my present gnome X ..... will i have to again install again for KDE ?08:13
amachuslaxy: from console08:14
ravenousslaxy: your going to have to setup how it starts different other than that it should work08:14
h3sp4wnslaxy: just install kubuntu-desktop (and it will bring all of kde)08:14
aka_foleyi have a s3 savage4 graphic card & it doesn't work right tv-out and other things. on the page s3graphics i have found a linux driver!08:14
amachuslaxy: yup...08:14
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filthpigHola. Trying to mount my ntfs drives in Kubuntu Dapper, but after editing fstab and trying "mount /media/ntfs" it gives me "mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /media/ntfs busy". Trying to umount either doesn't help :s Any ideas what might be causing this?08:16
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slaxyamachu: well since synaptic is not working for me im using adept and im nearly done with it.... thx :)08:16
slaxyh3sp4wn: well thats what i did :) .. thx08:16
slaxyravenous: well thats a better news... else i have to install drivers and other things again... thx :)08:16
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aka_foleyhow to install tar.gz files help me?08:17
ravenousslaxy: the xgl wiki shows how to start it under kde, fyi, shows a startxgl script you can make and add it to 'sessions' or a couple other ways08:17
amachuaka_foley: untar08:17
amachuaka_foley: get GCC installed first08:17
slaxyravenous: heading for ubuntuforums ...thx for headsup....08:18
amachuaka_foley: goto to the unzipped folder08:18
slaxybrb08:18
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amachuaka_foley: ./configure (hope this should be done as normal user)08:18
amachuaka_foley: then do, make install08:19
amachuaka_foley: make install should be given as root08:19
angasuledoes anyone have kweather working? I get 'unknown station'...08:19
ravenousaka_foley: i dont think you need to do any of that, you need to 'sudo apt-get install s3switch' the program enables the tvout etc on s3 cards08:19
amachuaka_foley: that will do gud..08:19
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amachuaka_foley: as ravenous stated08:20
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nonicknamei forget, what is the library that supports mp3's?08:22
ravenousbecause the savage drivers are already in xorg and should be detected by default, but the s3switch program manages the output of the card whether its crt/tvout, etc08:22
ravenousnonickname: libxine-extracodecs08:23
nonicknamethanks08:23
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aka_foleywhy not as root?08:25
ravenous?08:25
aka_foleytv out doesn't work08:27
aka_foley!08:27
ravenousdid you install s3switch?08:27
aka_foleyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2206408:29
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aka_foleyravenous:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2206408:29
ravenousya so man s3switch or s3switch -h for help08:30
aka_foleyand how to config it? i can speak and understand perfect russia and german but english...08:31
ravenousmaybe try an ubuntu channels that speaks that then08:32
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ravenousaka_foley: from what im reading, and if the tvout connection is setup, running 's3switch crt tv' will turn on both tv and crt08:35
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aka_foleyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2206608:37
aka_foleyit doesn't work have i to restart the pc?08:37
ravenousits not even detecting that you have the tvout connected to the card08:38
aka_foleyyes08:38
aka_foleyi control it08:38
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ravenouswait08:38
ravenousyou need s3switch crt tv, not crt ntsc08:38
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ravenous'both' is lcd and crt08:39
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ravenousand -q means quiet dont run that we need to see the output08:39
ryanrhow do I find the kernel version I am running?08:39
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ravenousryanr: uname -r08:40
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ryanrthanks ravenous08:40
ravenousnp08:40
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Phoenix92xhi, I'm having a problem getting kaudiocreator to actually rip anything...I've tried using LAME and FLAC. I think I might be missing something glaringly obvious but I can't think what. Could anyone help me get it working?08:42
aka_foleyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2206808:43
aka_foleys3switch -crt tv                doesn't work, too!08:43
ravenousmaybe try a restart08:44
ravenousit doesnt see the tv as being connected08:44
aka_foleyok08:44
aka_foleytanks very much08:44
ravenousas long  as your running the savage driver and its all plugged in i would think it should work08:45
ravenous(s3switch)08:45
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fallendamnationI need some help with K3b08:47
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ravenous?08:48
ravenousare you going yo make us use our telepathy to figure out the problem or?08:48
fallendamnationkeeps saying it that cdrecord has no permission to open up the device08:48
h3sp4wnfallendamnation: kdesu k3bsetup (thats a good start)08:48
ravenousbingo08:49
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ravenousrun it with kdesu k3b maybe if it doesnt have permissions  to access08:49
fallendamnationk then what do i do08:49
fallendamnationi got the configure up08:49
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ravenousim guessing your user doesnt have permission to access cdrecord08:51
fallendamnation Permission denied. Cannot open '/dev/sg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver08:51
ravenousid run kdesu k3b and see it works08:51
ravenoussee *if08:51
youssefhi everyb08:52
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fallendamnationnope doesnt work08:52
ravenoushas it correctly detected the burner?08:52
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fallendamnationhow do i make sure it has?08:52
ravenouskdesu k3bsetup08:53
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ravenousdevices should be listed08:53
fallendamnationseems to08:53
fallendamnationbut it lists 2 devices08:53
jdong_why is k3bsetup being used??08:53
ravenousso you have two burners or a burner and a cd drive or what?08:53
Phoenix92xis this the right channel to ask for some help with kaudiocreator?08:53
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fallendamnationi have one CD/DVD drive08:54
fallendamnationonly burns CDs though08:54
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ravenoushm08:54
ravenouswell i cant really say i had the same problem but running with kdesu works fine, since  all my burning programs have root permissions08:55
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fallendamnationboth of them are exactly the same cept for the device node08:55
ravenousits just one08:55
ravenousmine lists two as well but ive only got one, something with the setup08:55
fallendamnationyeah ok08:56
fallendamnationi also got X-CD roast08:56
aka_foleyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2206908:56
aka_foleytv out doesn't work please help08:56
ravenouswow08:57
fallendamnationbut it says that there is no root configuration file08:57
ravenousplease follow08:57
fallendamnationi know the cd burner works cause i burnt Kubuntu with Ubuntu08:57
ravenousaka_foley: 's3switch crt tv' no dashes or lines or any other thing08:57
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ravenousaka_foley: you've done about every command except the one i gave you08:58
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ocjeunessecherche canal ubuntu.fr08:58
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ravenousfallendamnation: doesnt it make a new config file once you run it as root?09:00
Phoenix92xcan anyone please help me get kaudiocreator to actually rip a CD? I click the "rip" button and it just sits there, no error or anything09:00
aka_foleyrestart again it doesnt work i used http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2207109:00
fallendamnationi dont know09:00
fallendamnationim pretty screwed then09:01
ravenousaka_foley: have you tried just 's3switch tv'? its getting farther after your reboot TV is at least showing up under connected devices its just not turning it on09:03
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moon2oooooolas09:04
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lzapI have just installed Kubuntu into Ubuntu and I am impressed! last KDE I checked out was 3.209:05
lzapI want more :-)09:05
aka_foleywhen i try "s3switch tv" my lcd monitor is black and schows nothin' then i tipped in without seeing anything root@yo:~# s3switch crt09:05
aka_foleyand now?09:05
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ravenousaka_foley: when you s3switch tv is it coming up on the tv though?09:06
aka_foleyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2207209:06
aka_foleyno09:07
aka_foleythe tv is black & the monitor is black09:08
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ravenouswhat kind of tv is it? ntsc. ntscj, pal?09:08
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yankeehi @ll09:08
yankeeDoes the installation on kubuntu usually resume after booting the first time?09:09
ravenousyankee: no09:09
oslohi09:09
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ravenousone install, reboot, your in09:09
yankeeok.. At least no installationprocess is still running than09:09
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oslowhen my screensavers starts i have a black screen, but when i test them they work properly ..how can i do to resolve that ?09:09
yankeeunfortunattly display 7 keeps beeing blang while I expected KDE to show up there09:10
yankeeblang=blank09:10
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ravenousis this a fresh install or what?09:11
yankeeIs it suspicious that all resolutions in the xorg.conf are set to 1280x1280...?09:12
yankeeyes, it is a fresh install09:12
DiabolicI can't find out how to change the speed of my mouse (touchpad) or disabling clicking by clicking the touchpad.  Anyone know how?09:12
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aka_foleywhat now?09:13
Phoenix92xam I asking in the wrong channel or something?09:13
aka_foleyi don't know what to do!!09:13
Phoenix92xwill nobody help me with kaudiocreator?09:13
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ravenousaka_foley: again, is your tv ntsc, ntscj or pal?09:14
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CapNemousers of kopete around here ??09:14
ravenousyankee: i assume you used the livecd? all the graphics and everything were working fine on it?09:14
CapNemoi have a strange behavior in kopete : it colors the text i send with random colors ?! any idea to remove that ??09:15
yankee<ravenous> You mean whether I installed with the livecd? Yes... But I choosed insalation in text-mode09:16
ravenousyankee: was the livecd working fine though? did it boot and you got xwindows and everything?09:16
ironfroggywould it be crazy to install windows firefox over wine so i can get flash 9?09:16
ravenousironfroggy: pretty much09:17
aka_foleyi don't know from sony kv-25c1d09:17
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ironfroggyravenous: any good reason not to?09:17
yankeeravenous: I treid once to start from it before installation, but I had the same problem09:17
ironfroggyravenous: assuming i have a strong need for flash 909:17
Phoenix92xcan anyone help me with kaudiocreator?....please?....it refuses to actually rip anything. I mean, even a "try this channel $channelname" would be helpful09:17
ravenousironfroggy: afaik its unusably slow from ppl ive talked to09:17
yankeethat's why I took the text-installation09:17
aka_foleyits from 20009:18
aka_foley200009:18
ironfroggyravenous: ive never had speed troubles with running anything on wine.09:18
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ravenousironfroggy: well try it then09:18
ravenous;)09:18
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ravenousyankee: well you've got the same problem you did before with the livecd, text mode isnt going to fix anything, its not detecting your monitor settings probably, you need to sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg and input them manually09:20
ravenous!resolution09:20
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:20
Phoenix92xI really don't understand why no one will respond to me at all09:20
ravenousor check this out09:20
ravenousPhoenix92x: because nobody here thats active probably uses the program09:20
Dr_WillisIve never used it.09:21
ravenousnor have i09:21
Dr_Willisi tend to use 'grip' to rip my cd's to mp3/oggs09:21
Phoenix92xgrip?09:21
mauciao ci sono italiani?09:21
Phoenix92xallrighty, I'll give that a shot then09:21
ravenous!it09:21
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:21
Phoenix92xdo Cd rippers in general need root permissions to do their work properly?09:21
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slaxyhi guys... kubuntu-desktop is getting installed on ubuntu right now... before it started the installation it did ask.. which DM would you like to select.... and i had to go for kdm.... guess DM can be anything... and the windows session can be selected... anyway let me have a look.. will update soon...09:21
ravenousPhoenix92x: mine do09:22
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mauScusa, sono un dilettante09:22
Phoenix92xravenous: how do I give a cd ripper root permissions?09:22
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  from just running kaudiocreater - seems ya need to set up what encoder to use at the first run. and its HIGHLY possible it cant find the cd due to the path or permissions.09:22
slaxybrb restart09:22
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ravenousPhoenix92x: beyond me but you'd have to chmod the program to give user permissions probably, i just use sudo/kdesu myself09:23
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aliasfred!it09:23
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:23
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Phoenix92xDr_Willis: it sees the cd and can read the tracks, and has grabbed the information from CDDB. But when I hit "rip" it just sits there and everything stays at 0%, doesnt even give me an error09:23
DiabolicI can't find out how to change the speed of my mouse (touchpad) or disabling clicking by clicking the touchpad.  Anyone know how?09:24
yankeeoh... another short thing:(It is my first time with kubuntu): It would be useful to install an ssh-server so I can copy&paste... But well... how do I do that...? I tried "sudo apt-get install sshd" but nothing happend at all09:24
jdong_yankee: sudo apt-get install ssh09:24
jdong_it's actually openssh-server if you want to be really nerdy :)09:24
jdong_but ssh will do just fine09:24
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  run it from a terminal see if any messages show up09:24
Phoenix92xgood idea, will do09:25
lotusleafjdong_: hi :) nice to see a new version of checkinstall and krusader appear ;)09:25
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  its working fine for me.09:25
lzapwell, GNOME has very nice OSD on my ThinkPad laptop when I change volume. does KDE have something like this?09:25
jdong_lotusleaf: :)09:25
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  also you may have to isntall some encoders or other tools for it to use.09:25
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yankeejdong: ok :-). But it is still the same, that nothing happens... Not the question that I am used to from apt-get whether I want to install the selected packet or even no error-message...09:25
lotusleafjdong_: you efforts are appreciated by many09:25
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jdong_yankee: you mean you type it at a konsole and get no response??09:26
dhqhey all09:26
yankeeright... Well it asks me for a password...09:26
ravenousDiabolic: if your lucky and its a synaptics touckpad installing 'ksynaptics' will give you an icon in the tray to do all that with, if its an alps touchpad im afraid its harder and ive yet to figure it out (i have an alps)09:26
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ravenousyankee: so type in your password09:26
yankeeIf I remember correctly I give a blank passwort...09:26
jdong_and after giving it a password nothing happens?09:26
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nomad411Hi.. is anyone here running 6/06 on a macbook?09:26
jdong_your password cannot be blank :-/09:26
jdong_sudo will not like it09:27
yankeeoh... mine? Because I never set a root-pw during installation, I think...09:27
ravenousyankee: yes yours09:27
jdong_yes, your password09:27
Phoenix92xDr_Willis: I have FLAC installed from synaptic. I'm trying to get it to use FLAC. It tells me a job has started, but there's a little green pause button next to it and nothing actually happens.09:27
now3dthanks for the default topic!09:27
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jdong_there is no root password in ubuntu09:27
yankeeahh... that works :-)09:27
jdong_:)09:27
Phoenix92xnothing comes up in terminal as to there being a problem09:27
lotusleafthere is no spoon09:27
Diabolicravenous: How can I find out what kind it is?09:27
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  click the jobs tab and see what it says?     using oggenc right now and its working09:27
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lotusleafjdong_: with the new checkinstall, installwatch is no longer needed?09:28
jdong_lotusleaf: correct, new checkinstall includes installwatch09:28
lotusleafjdong_: really? Awesome, thanks, I noticed it removed installwatch when it upgraded. :)09:28
jdong_yes, really :)09:28
aka_foleyhow to find german support??09:28
trappist!de09:29
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:29
Phoenix92xthe jobs queue says "job 1, progress 0%, description (trackname), there's a ittle green pause button next to it. On the bottom it says Ripping (1 active, 0 queued)09:29
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Phoenix92xand I was trying that with oggenc09:29
Dr_Willis!de09:29
Dr_Willislol - !lag09:29
ravenousDiabolic: *shrug* im sure you could find it somewhere in thle xorg config or something, i just installed ksynaptics and when it didnt work i uninstalled09:29
Diabolic:))09:29
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  you did select all the tracks?09:29
Phoenix92xDr_Willis: I'm just trying one right now09:30
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Phoenix92xbut I've tried a few, it won't do any of them09:30
ravenousDiabolic: its listed somewhere thats how i figured it out it was alps but it was in gnome's device manager and i dont know the kde equivlent09:30
Phoenix92xalso, Dr_Willis, do you see anywhere where one can select the quality of a rip?09:30
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Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  its all udder the settings for whatever encoder you want to use.09:31
Diabolicravenous: It seems like it's synaptics.09:31
ravenousDiabolic: well id just give ksynaptics and install then and hope for the best ;)09:31
Phoenix92xDr_Willis: when I hit configure for that all I get are "name" "command line" and "extension" as options09:32
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Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  also dont mount the cd when you pop it in the drive.. i hit 'cancel' when that window poped uo.09:32
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  yes.. so tweak the command line to be what you want to change the ogg options you want. :P09:32
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ravenousPhoenix92x: the quality etc has to be under the command line options of the encoding program09:33
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Dr_Willisthat cd rip was fast. ..09:33
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Phoenix92xDr_Willis: I'm going to try it again being sure to not mount it09:33
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lotusleafHas anyone else noticed in kde 3.5.4 running kcalc via alt-f2 sometimes crashes kicker?09:34
Phoenix92xgah it's still not doing anything09:34
Dr_Willismake syre ya got oggenc installed. :)09:35
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Dr_Willissince it aparently lets ya select encoders and tools you dont have installed09:36
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Phoenix92xDr_Willis: can you see if you can get it working using Lame?09:40
Dr_Willisusing flac right now. :P09:40
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Dr_Willison my 2nd cd09:40
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Dr_Willistry a 'sudo apt-get install flac' and see if you got flac installed.09:40
Dr_Willis!info oggtools09:40
ubotuPackage oggtools does not exist in any distro I know09:40
Dr_Willis!search oggenc09:41
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Dr_Willissudo apt-get install vorbis-tools09:41
Dr_Willisfor the ogg  encoder and tools.09:41
Phoenix92xflac is installed09:42
Phoenix92xlame is installed09:42
Phoenix92xoggenc is installed09:42
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miba76any one speak ger, need help09:42
miba76hi all09:42
Dr_WillisNeit.09:42
h3sp4wn !de09:42
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:42
Dr_WillisOh wait thats russian. :)09:42
leo690oip[ujh09:42
miba76thx09:42
Phoenix92xI'm really confused as to what the problem could be09:44
nonicknamewhat library is X_CreatePixmap in?09:44
yankeemhhh... is it possible, that I do not have kde installed (the installationprogram did not ask me...)09:44
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Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  run it from a terminal and see if any messages are printed out.09:44
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Phoenix92xDr_Willis: should I that normally or sudo?09:45
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Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  it could be the device for the cdrom is incorect.09:45
Dr_Willisrun it normally for a start09:45
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Dr_Willisif it works with sudo. but not a user --> implies a permission issue.09:45
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Phoenix92xDr_Willis: nothing happens, when the program starts it spits out ScimInputContextPlugin()09:46
Zambouliei can't play mp309:46
Phoenix92xnothing else happens at all09:46
Zambouliesomeone help09:46
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Dr_Willis!Mp309:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:47
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Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  is it even looking up the cd/song names?09:49
Diabolicravenous: Is the fact that my settings doesn't seem to take effect a bad sign? :P09:49
Phoenix92xDr_Willis: yes, it gets the song names from CDDB and gets them right09:49
RawSewagePhoenix92x, did you try playing it off your hard drive09:49
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  i checked the box's in the config tha auto rips. then auto ejects.. :P09:50
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Xcaliburyo09:50
ravenousDiabolic: yeah, you've probably got an alps ;) what kinda laptop?09:50
Phoenix92xRawSewage: how can I do that? the songs are on the CD. I'm trying to get them onto the hard drive09:50
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RawSewagejust drag them into a folder on your hard drive09:50
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Dr_Willisits ripping, and encodeing and spitting them out almost as fast as i cn put them in. :)09:50
Diabolicravenous: Dell Latitude D400.09:50
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XcaliburI have fips in my c drive in a folder caled fips, I boot to MS-DOS, to load it, how do I navigate to the directory09:51
XcaliburI treid cd c:\fips09:51
Xcaliburno luck09:51
ravenousDiabolic: mine's a dell too, so im pretty sure you've got alps ;/ ive searched everywhere with about 1500 different answers .. i just wanted to disable tap heh09:51
Dr_Willistry the dir command to see whats there.09:51
Phoenix92xDr_Willis: I tried te same thing, it looks them up, says "7 jobs have been started" and nothing happens09:51
Dr_Willisis your c: a NTFS partition?09:52
Xcaliburno09:52
XcaliburFAT3209:52
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  the jobs tab dont say anything about whats its doing09:52
Dr_WillisXcalibur,  what Sort of DOS did you boot to?09:52
Phoenix92xit just sits there and next to description there's a little green pause button09:52
Dr_Willisthe older dos cant read them09:52
XcaliburDOS 6.2209:52
Diabolicravenous: Hehe, me too.  It get's me crazy.  And my arm hurts because of the low sensitivity :(09:52
Dr_WillisXcalibur,  thats your problem09:52
Diabolics/get's/gets/09:52
XcaliburI think thats the newest right?09:52
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Xcaliburwhat I do?09:52
Dr_Willisits the latest of the old dos. :P09:52
Xcaliburwell, what dos do i get then?09:53
ravenousyou need a windows boot disk, not dos09:53
Dr_Willisit still cant read fat32  No idea if they ever upgraded/came out with some ads on09:53
Dr_WillisXcalibur,  what are you TRYING To do? whats fips anyway?09:53
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Xcaliburit's a partition splitter09:53
Xcaliburunless there is a better one?09:53
Dr_WillisMANY better ones out.09:53
Xcaliburok09:53
Xcaliburshoot09:54
Dr_Willisa live cd+gparted is the best ive found09:54
RawSewageWhats a common thing to backup daily09:54
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Xcaliburwell, is it under 700MB09:54
Xcalibur?09:54
XcaliburI only have a CD bruner09:54
Xcaliburburner*09:54
Dr_Willistheres a great many live cd's that have gparted/qtparted/parted on them09:54
RawSewageWhich folder, besides my Home folder, should I back up daily?09:54
Dr_Willistomsbrt is one  thats like 200mb. DSL is another thats 50mb09:55
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Phoenix92xDr_Willis, are you running kaudiocreator sudo or normally?09:55
RawSewageusing rdiff-backup09:55
Xcaliburdamn small linux/09:55
Xcalibur?09:55
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Dr_WillisRawSewage,  backing up all of /home - can be over kill09:55
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  as a normal user.09:55
RawSewageDr_Willis, yeah, I dont want to do that.  What should I back up in /home09:55
Xcaliburwhat I do next then?09:55
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Dr_WillisRawSewage,  your firefox cache is not worth backing up. :P09:56
Phoenix92xDr_Willis: any ideas as to what I should do? this is driving me nuts09:56
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RawSewagewhat should I backup outside of /home09:56
RawSewageI have a few MySQL databases09:56
Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  nope..   check dmesg output perhaps.09:56
XcaliburDR_Willis: what should my next step be?09:56
Dr_WillisXcalibur,  the Kubuntu install cd - has partiionng tools on it as well..09:56
Xcaliburit does?, enough to split my partition?09:57
Dr_WillisXcalibur,  so download/burn a live cd  that has the tools and boot it.09:57
notechtried grip to rip cd's to ogg?09:57
Xcaliburlike Gentoo Live Cd?09:57
Dr_WillisIt can resize partitions. Not sure what you mean by 'split'09:57
Dr_WillisNot sure what gentoo has on it any more09:57
Xcaliburmake 1 partition into 209:57
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Xcaliburnot resize09:57
Dr_WillisXcalibur,  thats not my definition of 'split' :)09:57
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Xcaliburlol09:57
Xcaliburok09:57
Dr_Williswhat kind of partitions you talking about?09:58
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XcaliburI'll try the kubuntu CD09:58
Xcaliburwhat tool i use?09:58
Xcaliburon kubuntu09:58
RawSewageanyone using backupninja09:58
RawSewageI dont know anything about backing up09:59
Xcaliburask the roming gnome09:59
Xcaliburlol09:59
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Xcaliburfrom travolocity09:59
Xcaliburlol09:59
RawSewage!backupninja09:59
ubotubackupninja: lightweight, extensible meta-backup system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-3 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 392 kB09:59
Xcalibur!fips09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
fdovingbackupninja rocks :)10:00
Xcalibur!partition10:00
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks10:00
Xcaliburok10:00
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RawSewagefdoving, ok good10:00
Xcaliburwell, I am gonna go try the kubuntu Cd10:00
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Phoenix92xDr_Willis: in all oddness, a different app called "ripperx" works flawlessly, I havn't a clue why10:04
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Dr_WillisPhoenix92x,  see what cd device its using?10:04
Dr_Williswow flac files are large. :P10:04
Dr_Willisbut compared to the .wav i guess they are small.10:04
Phoenix92xDr_Willis: lol ya flacs are huge, but they sound beautiful10:05
RawSewageI have no idea what im doing with backupninja10:05
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RawSewageoh ninjahelper10:06
sdlnxgkanyone using digital speakers with sound blaster ???10:06
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_lupine is the guy who was looking for 'ar' still here?10:07
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_lupine it's in binutils10:07
Dr_Willissdlnxgk,  yes. :)10:07
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_lupine...oops10:08
Phoenix92xDr_willis, how do I check that? which cd device its using I mean10:08
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RawSewagethis is weird10:08
RawSewageninjahelper is a terminal program, but you can click options with the mouse10:08
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Diabolicravenous: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7890410:09
PepeHello. I try install kubuntu 6, but, boot hangs on "starting enterprise volume management system" whats the matter ?10:09
sdlnxgkDr_Willis where are the settings for the digital speakers???10:09
Diabolicravenous: Haven't tried it yet, but feedback indicates it has helped.10:09
sdlnxgkDr_Willis couldn't find a digital setting anywhere :(10:10
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Dr_Willissdlnxgk,  i used the alsamixer i though to enable it.. actually it was enabled by default i think. :P10:11
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ravenousDiabolic: yeah im gonna take a look from what it says  they work alot with the wrong driver10:11
Dr_Willissdlnxgk,  what sound card you got exactly?10:11
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sdlnxgkDr_Willis cool will give that a show went from anolog to digital so might need some kicking to get it to work but will give it a try... Thanks10:12
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Dr_Willissdlnxgk,  kmix, has a 'switches' tab that has a button for it as well10:12
sdlnxgkDr_Willis I have the sound blaster live value10:13
Dr_Willisbut i cant seem to turn it off.. :P to prove it does anything Lol10:13
Dr_Williswife has one of those in her xp box. :P10:13
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Dr_WillisI got an Audigy2Zs10:13
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sdlnxgkmight be time for an upgrade sound card  :)10:13
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Dr_Willisi got more sliders and controlls and switches in the mixer then i know what to do with.10:13
Dr_Willissdlnxgk,  the audigy2's are getting cheap now that  those Newer cards are out.10:14
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Dr_WillisBut really - this card will last me a LONG time. :P10:14
mikimhey all10:14
mikimi have a question10:14
Dr_Willisi even got a remote - but not sure how to make that work in linux.10:14
Dr_Willis"We got answers.." (tm)10:15
sdlnxgkDr_Willis  thanks for the info will rehook my digi speakers in a minute and give it a try!!10:15
mikimwhy when i requesting ubuntu i have messege: This request was not approved, so no CDs were shipped???10:15
sdlnxgkDr_Willis thanks for your help10:15
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VincentMXmikim: maybe you ordered too many cd's10:16
mikimi order only 25 CD ;?10:16
mikim:/10:16
mikim*10:16
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VincentMXhave you got any reason for this amount of cd's?10:16
mikim10 kubuntu 10 ubuntu 5 edubuntu10:16
VincentMXhave you got any reason for this amount of cd's?10:17
adz21c_Hi, wondering if someone could help me with an issue. I seem to be having an issue with sound. Teamspeak doesn't seem to pick up sound information (just mutes mic and output) also I seem to fail cedega audio tests. To solve this I found I can delete /var/lib/alsa/asound.state then reboot and everything works. However after rebooting a second time teamspeak and cedega fail again, same fix solves this, but frankly it's getting ann10:17
adz21c_g this?10:17
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mikimwhat is amount?10:18
mikimsorry but my english is not good :/10:18
aliasfredamount = quantity = 2510:19
VincentMXyes10:19
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aliasfredam curious too :)10:19
VincentMXthnx aliasfred10:19
mikimso why i can't request it???10:19
aliasfredmikim: why do you need so many cd ?10:20
h3sp4wnmikim: I think you have to have a more genuine reason to want edubuntu cd's (i.e you are an educational establishment)10:20
h3sp4wnI got 20 (10 kubuntu 10 ubuntu with no problems)10:20
mikimi try it10:20
mikimok bye10:20
mikimthx10:20
aliasfredhehe he didnt want to answer the question :)10:20
Pepedoes anybody know my problem ?10:21
VincentMXno10:21
aliasfredh3sp4wn: i am curious, why did you need that many cd ?10:21
VincentMXyou need to ask first10:21
PepeHello. I try install kubuntu 6, but, boot hangs on "starting enterprise volume management system" whats the matter ?10:21
h3sp4wnaliasfred: The only one which had mac and x64 as part of it10:21
RawSewagePepe, is it a beta version of Kubuntu10:21
VincentMX6.10?10:22
Pepeno, i think is the stable10:22
Pepedapper10:22
_lupinePepe: sounds like it doesn't like your hard drive configuration10:22
VincentMXk10:22
_lupineare you actually using EVMS? LVM?10:22
h3sp4wnaliasfred: No real reason (just if people want them people can have them if they ask me) they are all useless anyway as you need to download 300mb of updates10:22
Pepe_lupine what is LVM ? EVMS ?10:22
Pepemy hard disk is serial ata 120 gb10:22
jdong_Pepe: do you have any hard drives that could be going bad?10:22
_lupineIf you don't know, you're not using them :)10:23
jdong_or scratched cd's in the cd-rom drive?10:23
aliasfredh3sp4wn: ok10:23
_lupine...10:23
PepeI dont hope so :S10:23
_lupineboot into recovery mode, and disable EVMS10:23
jdong_he's on a livecd, right?10:23
Pepeyes10:23
_lupineah....10:23
_lupineright10:23
_lupineDownload the alt. install CD10:23
jdong_when evms starts on the livecd, it'll scan all the partitions on the disks10:23
jdong_if one of them is weird, it will hang evms10:23
_lupineof course, the likelihood is that it'll do the same thing on the installed system10:24
jdong_but usually after a minute or two it clears up10:24
_lupine(ubuntu starts too much stuff by default, IMO)10:24
h3sp4wn_lupine: I agree10:24
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jdong_idn, most of the things it starts are eseential10:24
RawSewageI think the default for sessions should be:  Start with new sesssion, instead of  Restore Previous Session10:24
_lupine???10:24
jdong_evms is used for lvm/device-mapper10:24
_lupineno, they aren't :)10:25
jdong_yes, they are...10:25
jdong_I've tried to trim down ubuntu's boot procedure before10:25
Pepe"start kubuntu in safe graphics mode" ? do I chose this ?10:25
jdong_I think I succeeded in removing two symlinks10:25
RawSewageRestore Previous Session accumulates lots of baggage over time, and slows everything down10:25
_lupineexcept in a few configurations, there's no need for them.10:25
jdong_evms?10:25
jdong_the livecd uses device-mapper10:25
jdong_which requires evms10:25
jdong_there's one configuration10:25
jdong_not to mention lvm users10:26
_lupinehow many people actually use EVMS, though? Or LVM? Not that many10:26
h3sp4wnYou can't even install to lvm without using the alternative cd (as far as I know)10:26
_lupineRAID?10:26
jdong__lupine: do you boot the livecd?10:26
jdong_if so, you need evms10:26
jdong_end of story10:26
_lupineh3sp4wn: you can - you just need to wipe your entire HD first10:26
_lupinedong_: RAID?10:26
_lupineHPLIPS?10:26
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jdong_raid does nothing if you don't have a raid10:27
_lupinePCMCIA?10:27
jdong_again, all of those don't take any time if you don't have the hardware10:27
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h3sp4wnI think software raid is pretty pointless anyway10:27
_lupinethey do on startup10:27
jdong_not really10:27
_lupineand they're one more thing that can break10:27
h3sp4wnif you want raid you should have it in hardware10:27
jdong_they are not what's chewing up time10:27
h3sp4wnso the os sees it as one disk10:27
jdong_h3sp4wn: actually, software raid is quite useful10:27
jdong_not everyone can afford a hardware raid controller10:28
h3sp4wnjdong_: Too slow10:28
jdong_not terribly bad10:28
jdong_still better than no raid10:28
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jdong_upstart will fix a lot of the init dumbness10:28
Pepe"setting up LVM Volume Groups" <-- is this what i have to disable? how do I do that ?10:28
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_lupinefingers crossed :)10:29
_lupinepepe: lvm is somewhat different to evms10:29
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Pepe"buffer I/O error on device dm-1, logical block 9779462" <-- Is my hard drive broken? :(10:30
JohnFlux_h3sp4wn: hardware raid is poinless10:30
JohnFlux_h3sp4wn: pointless10:31
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JohnFlux_h3sp4wn: software raid is far more flexible10:31
jdong_Pepe: either that or the CD10:31
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JohnFlux_h3sp4wn: and you aren't screwed if the hardware controller breaks10:31
jdong_JohnFlux: depends on how expensive your hardware raid controller is :)10:31
jdong_lol10:31
jdong_I'd like one of those fancy ones with a battery backup10:31
JohnFlux_jdong_: and what if it breaks?10:31
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jdong_JohnFlux_: the chances of that happening are not as good as the chances of write cache data loss :)10:32
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Pepeok, thankyou for your help, bye10:32
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zerotretaalguem ai pode me dizer por que no acho os canais do brasil?10:33
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zerotretaqual rede devo conectar?10:33
_lupine!portugese10:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about portugese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:33
_lupine!br10:33
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.10:33
zerotreta_lupine:  isso ai maninho10:33
jdong_is "use" really portugese?10:34
_lupine:( no portugese or brasilian nein non10:34
zerotretajoin #ubuntu-br10:34
_lupineanyone know any more 'no' words? :)10:34
soulrider_no10:34
soulrider_:P10:34
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_lupinealready got that one10:34
joschanein (german)10:35
_lupineI should know, really... I have a portugese friend10:35
_lupinegot that one too :p10:35
h3sp4wnJohnFlux_: HP support contract (you can have one in 4 hours or just keep a spare)10:35
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CatSoupthis might be a dumb question, but can i run gnome on kubuntu?10:36
soulrider_justo go to babelfish and translate "no"10:36
jdong_CatSoup: sure10:36
_lupineWe could always just agree that RAID itself is pointless... that's what multiple redundant power supplies, UPS, and minutely backups to multiple overseas locations are for10:36
joschaCatSoup: sure10:36
CatSoupcool beans. i just install the package through adept?10:36
jdong__lupine: but what about my 5xRAID1 performance?10:36
joschajust install gnome-desktop10:36
_lupinebut hardware RAID is cheaper, and software RAID cheaper still ;)10:36
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h3sp4wn_lupine: It is pointless for home use but you may as well have it for business critical stuff (in hardware)#10:36
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_lupinetrue. Won't exactly do any harm10:37
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lotusleafinstall xfce too :)10:37
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_lupineI don't have "home user" internet...10:37
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adhi, does anyone know how to get rid of these annoying debugging messages, if i launch a kde-application from console?10:38
lotusleafad, don't run from konsole? :)10:38
joschaalt + space is your friend ;)10:38
soulrider_yea10:39
soulrider_use katapult10:39
adhm10:39
adbut i like starting apps from konsole10:39
JohnFlux_h3sp4wn: but all the raid info is on the card10:39
jdong_Ad: command 2>&1 > /dev/null10:39
soulrider_lol10:39
CatSoupwait, if i'm getting this right, kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE pre-installed?10:39
soulrider_i use yakuake10:39
JohnFlux_h3sp4wn: so you lose that info10:39
adeg kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:39
soulrider_y just hide it10:39
joscha CatSoup: yes10:39
w1w1t0m1hello, I did set folder sharing on one PC in LAN, but can't add it as network place on another... can anybody help ? (i use nfs server)10:39
soulrider_CatSoup:  yeah!10:39
CatSoupO.O10:39
JohnFlux_CatSoup: kubuntu is just ubuntu with different defaults10:39
adhehe, this 2>&1 is really an idea!10:39
lotusleafCatSoup: and without the people on the shipit cover10:39
CatSoupthat makes so much sense it's not even funny.10:40
_lupine:p10:40
h3sp4wnJohnFlux_: They can be just swapped out (The HP ones I have used anyway and they keep working fine)10:40
lotusleafI think the Kubuntu shipit cover should have aliens instead of people holding hands10:40
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_lupineit comes without GNOME installed :)#10:40
_lupinethat's a big plus10:40
soulrider_lotusleaf: whys that ?10:40
lotusleafsoulrider_: because aliens are cool10:40
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soulrider_lol10:40
soulrider_so KDe is cool ?10:40
JohnFlux_h3sp4wn: how much do those cost?10:40
lotusleafand at least something would be holding hands10:40
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joschacan't image Gigers Aliens holding hands....10:41
lotusleafI think GoetiaUbuntu would be cool, "Ubuntu for Demons"10:41
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_lupinehar10:41
soulridero.O10:41
CatSoupwhy isn't there a Gubuntu then?10:41
CatSoupis gnome the default for Ubuntu?10:41
lotusleafloaded on a red two-horned usb stick, GoetiaUbuntu will satisfy any demon10:41
soulrider!goetia10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about goetia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
_lupineit's the Lesser Key of Solomon, thank you10:42
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joschagnome is default for ubuntu yes10:42
CatSoup:)10:42
lotusleaf_lupine: ;D10:42
_lupineAnd TBH, the Book of Abra-Melin the Mage is a much more solid base for a linux operating system10:42
_lupinewhat with all the self-flagellation and such10:42
lotusleafinfo about Goetia is at wikipedia for one10:42
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CatSoupmy gnome installation failed :-.10:43
CatSoup:(10:43
w1w1t0m1I did set folder aaa in my home directory to share, and nfsd is running on port 2049, so how can I in konqueror connect to this folder? nfs:// ... ?10:43
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h3sp4wnJohnFlux_: Pretty expensive (I have never dealt with the cost)10:43
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sdlnxgkDr_Willis Thanks for the help got it up and running digital sound now...10:45
h3sp4wnJohnFlux_: If a disk dies the red light goes on you change it and within an hour its just sorted itself out10:45
CatSoupumm, egg_desktop_etires always say NULL failed in the terminal window10:45
CatSoupthat's probably a bad thing right?10:45
CatSoupegg_desktop_entries_add_group*10:45
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Dr_Willis:)10:48
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Dr_WillisMuching on a New Lasanga Pizza from Pizza hut.10:49
reddwolf78hello i was trying to get alsaplayer installed on my linux and wehen i went to compile it do get it working i kept getting an error that i could not compile it10:49
CatSouplasagna pizza? o.010:49
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sdlnxgkDr_Willis  that sounds  good  think i'll order Papa John's Pizza ;)10:49
Dr_Willispappa jons has a new pizza out also.10:50
reddwolf78could someone help me with it i'm new on linux still and have not don't a comepile and i have read the web page and barley understand it10:50
Dr_Willis2 saussages, perproni, and some other meat10:50
reddwolf78meat lovers10:50
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_lupine...:D10:50
Dr_Willisreddwolf78,  install 'build-essential' yet?10:50
reddwolf78i'm not sure10:50
Dr_Willisi would guess thats a NO. then. :P10:50
sdlnxgkDr_Willis Hmmmmm sounds good but i'm stuck on that Spinach Alfredo Pizza :D10:51
reddwolf78i got through the first part of the compile web page fine but get down to the bottom were it startes getting in to the make part screws me up10:51
Dr_Willisif you dont have build-essential installed - then make isent isntalled. :P10:52
Dr_Willisi think10:52
reddwolf78oh10:52
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Dr_Willis!info build-essential10:52
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB10:52
Dr_Willisand gcc and other tools are not isntalled yet. :P10:52
lotusleafreddwolf78: examine any errors to see if dependencies require resolving10:52
Dr_Willisand of course - depending on what you are compiling - OTHER developer packages may be needed10:52
reddwolf78from what i can remember from yesterday it siad confure file not a valid name  and make  says the same thing10:53
reddwolf78i'm trying to get alsaplayer on my linux10:53
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reddwolf78i got one package from there wed site and what ever my inux system has on it10:54
reddwolf78linux*10:54
Dr_Willis!info alsaplayer10:54
ubotuPackage alsaplayer does not exist in any distro I know10:54
Dr_Willis!info alsaplayer-common10:55
ubotualsaplayer-common: PCM player designed for ALSA (common files). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.76-7ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 154 kB, installed size 440 kB10:55
Dr_Willisthere ya go10:55
reddwolf78i got the that but how do it get it on my system10:56
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reddwolf78i went through adept a got those10:56
Dr_Willisyou use the package manager to install it. then  who knows.. never used it.. :P rtfm?  try typing 'alsaplayer' in the shell?10:56
reddwolf78that delt with alsa but they are just the plug and play10:57
Dr_Willistry alsaplayer-gtk ?10:57
Dr_Willis'alsa-player' just launched a little player gui for me.10:58
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Dr_Willis:)10:58
reddwolf78same here but i nee the whole thing10:58
Dr_Williswhat 'whole thing' ?10:58
Dr_WillisTheres about a dozen alsa-player-XXXXXXXXX packages in the repos.10:59
reddwolf78give me just a sec i have the web link10:59
reddwolf78http://www.alsaplayer.org/10:59
Dr_Willisand the question what are you needing 'the whole thing' for?11:00
reddwolf78i dj on sat nights and i found that alsaplayer works with shoutcast11:01
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reddwolf78witch i need that part of the alsaplayer to dj11:01
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adtry 'apt-cache show alsaplayer'11:02
Dr_Williswhich part? heh..11:02
wimpiesanybody around that can help me setting up my ZEN sleek MP3 player ?11:02
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adbut i don't see anything related to djing11:02
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Dr_Willisyou want a player to play shoutcast streams?11:02
reddwolf78shoutcast/icecast is a tool to get music out on the web for others to listen too11:02
reddwolf78and alsaplayer supports it11:02
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reddwolf78http://freshmeat.net/projects/alsaplayer/11:03
reddwolf78thats were i found it11:03
Sannereddwolf78: you can also look here for what's available in dapper: http://tinyurl.com/mvm7p11:03
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reddwolf78would i have to compile anything11:04
Dr_Willisso you install the icecast server.. then isntall the alsa-player-common package11:04
Dr_Willisicecast-server - MPEG Layer III Streaming Server11:04
Dr_WillisIm not seeing why you need to compile anything.. its all there in the repositories..11:04
reddwolf78then how would i t get also to work for me then11:04
w1w1t0m1I get error message from konqueror by trying to connect via nfs : "Authorization failed, localhost authentication not supported."11:05
Dr_Willis!repos11:05
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:05
Dr_Willis!icecast11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
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Dr_Willisicecast-client - Streaming Mpeg Layer III feeder11:05
Dr_Willisicecast-server - MPEG Layer III Streaming Server11:05
Dr_Willis!info icecast-server11:06
ubotuicecast-server: MPEG Layer III Streaming Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3.12-14 (dapper), package size 176 kB, installed size 728 kB11:06
Sannereddwolf78: you may also ask in #lad (linux audio developers and users), they might have more knowledge about audio related stuff.11:06
Dr_Willisuse the package manager and search/install the stuff.. if you need to expand your repositories  check the !easysource bot info or that other url11:06
reddwolf78ok11:07
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Dr_WillisIm thinkin its more of an issue. that hes making it TOO hard. :P11:07
Dr_Willisthe package managers/repos seem to have all the stuff you want.11:07
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ubuntuhello everyone, i need help with kubuntu...11:08
usrhello. can anyone tell me why I can't use a blank password for my account on kubuntu?11:08
matthiasyou can...11:08
Sannereddwolf78: there's also #ubuntstudio channel and as part of the ubuntuforums, and the wiki: http://ubuntustudio.com/11:08
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ubuntu-dracouhello everyone, i need help with kubuntu... it's not booting anymore and i have a log11:08
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MetaMorfoziSwhy bad if i install firefox from repos?11:09
matthiasubuntu-dracou: don't ask to ask, jut ask11:09
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visik7is there a graphical way to connect a bluetooth phone in kde and using it with kppp ?11:11
Dr_Willisusr,  it would be a bad security  'thing to do'11:11
aliasfred!irc11:11
ubotuirc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines11:11
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aliasfredwhat is the mode option to block the reception of wallops on freenode ?11:12
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lotusleafyup, the next version of VLC will look nicer.. with Qt! :)11:12
reddwolf78so far i'm not getting anywere with ither group chats11:13
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Dr_Willisreddwolf78,  well you are being a little vague. and perhaps confused about things. :P11:14
aliasfredhttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#networkinfo <- was me answer :)11:14
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adusr/sda maybe you want to have a look at the settings of kdm, if youre using it11:14
inteliwaspif i import bookmarks into firefox, will i lose the ones that are listed before the import?11:15
adtheres is an option to automatically logging into kde without a password11:15
reddwolf78oh11:15
Dr_WillisKDM has an auto login feature11:15
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Dr_Willisbut using no password - is a bad idea11:16
matthiasad: yes11:16
Dr_Willisthe first users password is also the 'sudo' password. so i really DONT think you want that to be blank11:16
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reddwolf78i was the only one in one group the #ubuntstudio and no one is chating in the #lad11:18
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lotusleafpasswords are there for a reason11:19
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klerfaytI need a tool that let's me create rar archives11:20
sdaI know passwords are there for a reason. of course :) but generally I trust the people with whom I mingle to not destroy my system.11:21
lotusleafsda: trust is a weakness11:22
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Sanneklerfayt: I think there are some rar/unrar packages in the repositories, you can find out in which ones on packages.ubuntu.com.11:22
_lupineunrar-free and unrar11:23
sda:-)11:23
_lupine!unrar11:23
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free11:23
_lupineif passworded, use unrar11:23
Sanne_lupine: klerfayt wants to create rar files.11:24
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Agiosuse rar to create, unrar to extract11:25
_lupineah...11:26
_lupinedon't :)11:26
Dr_Willisinstall the rar stuff and ark can make them11:26
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lotusleafalso krusader has rar support11:26
_lupineuse bzip2 instead :)11:26
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_lupine(compression isn't quite as good, but it's free (in both senses of the word))11:26
inteliwaspif i import bookmarks into firefox, will i lose the ones that are listed before the import?11:26
maninderim running kubuntu and i cant even install any of my drivers11:27
Dr_WillisImport merges11:27
inteliwaspthanks11:27
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Dr_WillisOthereise it would be  sort of useless. :P11:27
klerfaytheh, rar is shareware, you can use it 40days11:27
Dr_Willisrar is 'annoying' :)11:27
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Martijn81anyone know howto convert a *.po documentation to a file readable by the system? I know howto do it for gui stuff, but for docs is unclear for me11:27
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jamielooking for a consultant to setup jails for fastcgi scripts (php4-cgi, python, perl, etc)11:27
adwhat i was looking for to get rid of the annoying console debug messages was kdebugdialog11:27
Sanneklerfayt: if you can, use something else11:28
manindercan linux run .exe ?11:28
lotusleafmaninder: yes with WINE, see #winehq11:28
lotusleafmaninder: also http://www.winehq.com/11:28
jamiesorry if this is a repeate: looking for a consultant to setup jails for fastcgi/scgi scripts (php4-cgi, python, perl, etc) message me privately if interested11:28
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maninderlotusleaf can i have your msn please i might need your guide11:30
SanneMartijn81: you mean compiling a text .po file to a binary .mo file?11:30
klerfaytSanne: I tried to create tar.bz2 1.6GB archive but it didn't afterwards or I gave to wait 15 minutes?11:30
lotusleafmaninder: I don't use msn, my e-mail is on my site: http://lotusleafslinks.tuxfamily.org/11:30
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klerfayt*didn't open11:30
lotusleafmaninder: I'm sure the kind folks in #winehq can help you though :)11:31
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Martijn81Sanne: yeah, i know howto do that with gui.po to gui.mo files, but are docs the same? I can't seem to find the correct folder too11:31
lotusleafmaninder: and/or ask here too11:31
maninderokay11:31
maninderits just that im new i dont know what to do11:31
lotusleafmaninder: that's why many of us are here, ask away11:32
Sanneklerfayt: wow, 1.6GB! :) I guess, depending on your system, it may well need more than 15 minutes to open. bz2 compression seems quite thorough. I would try it again.11:32
dafarthi there11:32
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dafartdoes anyone know a way to download .torrent files from php scripted sites using wget?11:32
maninderdman i gata run to work ill be back on here for more questions latter on11:32
maninderbye11:32
marlixll11:32
maninderand thanks for the site11:32
FilleHi!11:33
FilleI'm a new Kubuntu user ;D11:33
lotusleafmaninder: yw cu11:33
SanneMartijn81: I don't understand exactly what you mean with gui and docs files. I used .po files to localize WordPress (php blog system) and used the tool msgfmt to convert it to .mo files.11:33
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FilleI was wondering if anyone could tell me how I could install Firefox on my Kubuntu?11:33
FilleI'm not sure where I should unpack it and so on :o11:33
klerfaytFille: use adept11:33
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klerfaytFille: kmenu>syste>adept; search for "firefox"11:34
lotusleafI like Synaptic in Kubuntu better ;)11:34
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Fillel,11:35
Fillek11:35
digitsFille: or in konsole sudo apt-get install firefox11:35
Filleit says it's installed11:35
Fillebut I don't see it on my Internet tabb11:36
Martijn81Sanne: yup, msgfmt indeed. I just mean KDE translations in gui of an application, that is msgfmt -o *.po *.mo, and then mv the file to the correct folder. But now i want to preview my document translation  (help:/konqueror for example)11:36
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SanneMartijn81: I'm afraid that's a bit too advanced for me, sorry :)11:36
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Martijn81it's ok, i'll find a way :)11:37
SanneMartijn81: there's always a way (mostly...) :)11:37
Martijn81hehe11:37
Sannegood luck11:37
FilleAnyone knows why I don't see Firefox on my Start > Internet menu?11:38
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Fille:/11:38
klerfaytFille: probably menu is not updated (it will be next time you log in); alt+f2  and type firefox11:38
mxwhat is the linux equivalent of a batch file?11:38
lotusleafFille: try running kmenuedit11:38
lotusleafyou can add it manually11:38
digitsmx: bash file11:38
digits;P11:38
mxdigits: what is the extension? lol11:39
lotusleafFille: you may want to install Synaptic, it's better than Adept IMO11:39
klerfaytlotusleaf: it will be added; he just needs to log out first11:39
digitsmx: .sh11:39
mxx_x11:39
lotusleafklerfayt: :)11:39
Sannemx: sometimes there is no extension, though.11:39
Fille"Could not run the specified term"11:39
Fille:(11:39
digitsmx: more exactly shell script file11:39
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digitsnite all11:39
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klerfaytFille: but you said it is installed11:39
AZ_ASlotusleaf, why do you think synpatic's better than adept? just curious11:39
mxi made an sh file to run xmame, and it's telling me to su to have permissions to run it =/11:39
Filleyes, Adept told me it was installed11:39
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lotusleafAZ_AS: lots of reasons which probably only matter to me. :)11:40
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klerfaytFille: what happens if you open konsole and type fire and then tab?11:40
Fillehmm this is strange11:40
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AZ_ASlol, I'll give it a test whirl and see what I think :)11:40
liamhey11:40
Fillenothing11:40
Fillethis is odd11:41
Sannelotusleaf, AZ_AS: one thing I love about Synaptic is that it keeps an installation history. Adept doesn't do that, as far as I know.11:41
klerfaytFille: fo you see firefox in /usr/bin ?11:41
liamim looking for some help opening adept it says "conversation with su failed"11:41
lotusleafFille: go into adept, install Synaptic, then run Synaptic from now on when you install programs11:41
Filleok will do11:42
lotusleafonce in Synaptic, search for firefox, install it if needed11:42
AZ_ASSanne, ty...definitely will have to try it then since that'd come in handy for me11:42
Fillethank you guys for the help really appreciate it <311:42
lotusleafFille: :) karma sprouts with smiling flower faces11:42
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SanneAZ_AS: yeah, that's the main reason I use it.11:43
lotusleafI just like how Synaptic looks and works overall vs. adept11:43
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liamso can someone help me11:43
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mxlol, what did it say?11:46
FilleI've searched for Synaptic in Adept but didn't find it11:46
FilleSo I couldn't install it11:46
FilleI'm confused here :(11:46
lotusleafhave you configured your sources.list?11:46
FilleI thought it would be "easy" to install applications on Kubuntu :o11:47
Martijn81mx: 22:5511:47
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lotusleafFille: we aren't a tor troll are we? :)11:47
Filletor?11:47
mxanyhow.. does anyone recommend any certain program for making a video of the computer screen?11:47
Martijn81mx: i mean, almost one hour ago....11:47
mxah11:47
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Filleso guys, what should I do then? :/11:48
lotusleafFille: installations are easy11:48
mxMartijn81: i don't think i've been here that long11:48
mxheh11:48
Martijn81she's loving gentoo ;)11:48
Fillelotusleaf: k, then could you tell me how I can fix Firefox for my Kubuntu then ?11:49
Fille:)11:49
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mxi wanna record video of my comp screen, with optional sound.. =P11:49
aliasfredmx, screenkast is the name i think11:49
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lotusleafFille: I don't use Adept, but I'd imagine it's as simple as starting Adept and selecting firefox to install then installing it11:49
mxaliasfred: thanks11:49
aliasfredor kreencast, or close :)11:49
aliasfredmx, on kde-apps.org11:50
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Fillelotusleaf: ok11:50
mxit isn't in the kubuntu repo?11:50
liamI would like you all to know that kubuntu is a complete pile of shit that is full of errors but looks pretty11:50
FilleI'll try uninstalling then reinstalling it then11:50
aliasfreddunno11:50
Filleliam: why?11:50
mxhaha liam11:50
Martijn81aliasfred: yeah but screenkast does not include sound AFAIK11:50
OODliam: uh11:50
AZ_AShmm, tried installing Synaptic but there was an error message, saying there was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages11:50
liameverything i do is difficult11:51
SanneFille: when you tried to run firefox, did you use lowercase?11:51
aliasfredMartijn81: i dunno i never tried it11:51
liami hate the look of gnome though11:51
lotusleafFille: if it's already installed, you shouldn't need to uninstall then reinstall it11:51
OODit takes some getting used too11:51
Martijn81aliasfred: i did, ffmpegwith theora is probably better if you want sound in it11:51
lotusleafFille: press ALT+F2 then type firefox then hit Enter11:51
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Fille"Could not run the specifc command"11:52
scabootsscahey how do i reset my repository list to the default from instalation?11:52
liami cant open the add/remove programs i cant open adept and i cant ever find firefox11:52
mxaliasfred: is there one in the kubuntu repos?11:52
mxah, sorry11:52
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deinwhy is the update server down?11:52
mxmissed your response last time i asked :p11:52
yannuxhello everybody :)11:53
klerfaytliam: you need to know sudo password to use adept11:53
FilleShould I re-download the .tar file from Firefox's webpage again and save it on my hdd then?11:53
deinit says i have updates, but when i try to download em i get 404s11:53
yannuxwidth kde, is it possible tu have windows under mouse cursor when I press alt+tab ??11:53
liamya i installed the system myself about 10 minutes ago i know the password11:53
aliasfredMartijn81: too bad, linux would benefit from a good screencast capture software. such tool would be real nice to publish demo/doc11:53
OODyannux: what do you mean?11:54
liami enter the password but it says it "cant communicate wit su"11:54
liamwith11:54
lotusleafFille: you don't need to download a .tar file11:54
aliasfredMartijn81: the exsiting solution are 'raw' at best :)11:54
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Xerahiho11:54
Fillebut what's wrong then?11:54
AZ_ASthere a way to remove lib files safely without breaking the system?11:54
FilleI've unpacked it and all11:54
lotusleafFille: you might try asking in #ubuntu if you don't find your question to be properly answered to your satisfaction in here.11:55
Xerai have to do sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 everytime i reboot to mount my windows partition, and i forgot what i need to put into fstab, can someone tell me? :p11:55
Fillek11:55
adliam: does sudo work?11:55
Martijn81aliasfred: yeah, but screenkast can work with tooltips though11:55
MetaMorfoziSwhat i need to install to get work the "svn" cmd?11:55
yannuxOOD: when I press Alt+tab to switch or view opened soft on my desktop, I would like that the list to be placed under where my mouse cursor is....11:55
MetaMorfoziSsvn co -N svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kdenetwork11:55
MetaMorfoziSit said svn command not found11:55
matthiasXera: the same, just without mount11:56
adsth like: /dev/sda1       /media/winxp    ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0     1 111:56
liamwell i opened adept in konsole, there were a few errors but it did open11:56
Xeramatthias: lol, ok11:56
yannuxOOD: you see what I want to say ? ;)11:56
matthiasdoes anybody have reiser4 here?11:56
mxmy cpp processor failed a sanity check =(11:56
mxpreprocessor*11:56
adok11:56
Xerauh, and with -t, and -o?11:56
adi had to initially do sudo su11:57
klerfaytFille: does adept say firefox is installed like this? http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8310/pilt1mo7.png11:57
adand then passwd11:57
adto get a root pw11:57
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Xcaliburomg11:57
Xcaliburpainstaking work, for nothing11:57
XcaliburI partitioned a second partition of 4.5gb11:58
matthiasXera: you might want to read man fstab11:58
SanneMetaMorfoziS: I think you would need the package subversion11:58
MetaMorfoziSyes... i figured out during the question11:58
MetaMorfoziSthx11:58
SanneMetaMorfoziS: cool! :)11:59
Xcaliburand another of 285MB, and my standard 5gb winxp partition, I set the second partition to "/", and the 285MB one for swap, I boot it up, and no grub?11:59
mxis something wrong with us.archive.ubuntu.com?11:59
Xcaliburhey11:59
Xcaliburcan someone tell me if kubuntu comes with grub?11:59
Xeramatthias: i never understand wtf they're talking about in man11:59
SanneXcalibur: yes, it does11:59
XeraXcalibur: um.. ofc?11:59
Xera>_<11:59
RawSewageaudioconverter  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1260811:59
mxXera: couldnt it have lilo?11:59
XcaliburI installed it, just fine12:00
Filleklerfayt: yes that is correct12:00
Xcaliburno grub when boot up?12:00
OODyannux: hmm, i don't know if there is an option like that12:00
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Xcaliburplz, somone help me?12:00
yannuxOOD: yes, I did no find it :s12:00
mxdamnit12:00
mxsomeone ping us.archive.ubuntu.com12:00
yannuxOOD: It will be good to access quickly to window list :)12:01
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Xcaliburit is still up, I pinged it12:01
Martijn81mx: i got a good capture with this info a while ago: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/12:01
SanneXcalibur: I remember having to agree to install grub to the master boot record. Yre you sure you did that?12:01
mxah, thanks, Xcalibur, Martijn8112:02
liamya me too its up12:02
mx.. wtf12:02
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XcaliburI don't beleiev it asked me12:02
liamits faster that ca.archive.ubuntu.com and im in canada12:02
mxx_x12:02
mxmy computer's been doing this for a while..12:02
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SanneXcalibur: oh sorry, maybe that's because I used the alternate installer. You probably used the live cd? I don't know how it handles this, sorry.12:03
Xcaliburdamn it!!!!!112:03
liamits because kubuntu is full of errors12:03
Xcaliburomg12:03
SanneXcalibur: but you probably can use the live cd to install grub12:03
Xcaliburhow?12:03
SanneXcalibur: give me a moment to find a reference page for you12:04
Xcaliburok12:04
inteliwasphow do i find what is causing poor audio quality for music and videos?12:05
mxi try to go to connect to the internet and it just doesn't go through to that particular site for a bit12:05
mxjust happened with us.archive.ubuntu.com12:05
liamhow do i check for updates12:05
mxactually, i still can't ping it =/12:05
Xcaliburi get request timed out12:06
Xcaliburits there, maybe server errors?12:06
mx13 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 12031ms12:06
mx2 minutes lol12:06
klerfaytSanne: opening 1.5GB rar file takes less than 1second, so I don't know what went wrong with tar.bz2...12:06
mxwait, nvm12:06
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Sanneklerfayt: hmm, I never opened a rar file that big, but I opened a lot of bz2 files far smaller than yours and I knwo it took quite some time. That's why I thought you should maybe try it again and give it more time.12:08
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liamthe biggest rar file i opened was 8 gb and it took about 3 seconds12:08
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