[12:11] <draik> how do I run           filename.sh         files?
[12:11] <nagyv> how can I find out the device name of my USB connected mobile? Its memory stick is recoginzed under /dev/sda1, but easyconnect can not connect to it there.
[12:12] <nagyv> draik: in konqueror check with a right click wheather they are executables
[12:12] <vge> reddwolf78: cant really help you on that one
[12:12] <nagyv> draik: then click on them twice
[12:12] <jake1> how can i find out what driver my Wireless card is using?
[12:12] <draik> nagyv, can't do it through CLI?
[12:13] <nagyv> draik: of course you can :)
[12:13] <reddwolf78> i got it but i'm haveing trouble esle were that i should be able to do
[12:13] <draik> how?
[12:13] <gan|y|med> soulrider: no prob. thx for the help
[12:13] <Kr4t05> Is anyone else having trouble getting on the forums?
[12:13] <reddwolf78> thanks for your help
[12:13] <nagyv> draik: do you have mc?
[12:13] <vge> reddwolf78: np
[12:13] <nagyv> how can I find out the device name of my USB connected mobile? Its memory stick is recoginzed under /dev/sda1, but easyconnect can not connect to it there.
[12:14] <InuDuelist> Mmm. Back from school.
[12:14] <Kr4t05> nagyv: are you talking about a Palm Pilot?
[12:14] <InuDuelist> Time for some more Linuxing until 6, then comes Eureka.
[12:14] <draik> mc?
[12:14] <jake1> u gotta be kidding me
[12:15] <nagyv> Kr4t05: no, it's a sony-ericsson D750i mobile
[12:15] <jake1> no one can tell me what driver my wireless card is using
[12:15] <draik> nagyv, what's mc?
[12:15] <Kr4t05> nagyv: well, you know what I mean.
[12:15] <nagyv> draik: midnight commander, it a similar program to norton commander or windows commander
[12:15] <draik> sudo apt-get midnight commander   ?
[12:15] <nagyv> Kr4t05: what you mean?
[12:16] <nagyv> draik: it's in the universe repository, and the package name is just mc
[12:16] <draik> ok
[12:16] <draik> installing
[12:17] <draik> done
[12:17] <nagyv> draik: fine, after locate your file, and click Ctrl+x c to see the permissions
[12:18] <draik> click CTRL+X?
[12:18] <nagyv> draik: you can run it either by simply clicking enter on it, ot clicking Ctrl+o to hide the panels, and then write $ ./yourscript.sh
[12:18] <nagyv> draik: yes, and after a C
[12:18] <draik> ls
[12:18] <draik> whoops
[12:19] <nagyv> draik: alright, push not click :)
[12:19] <a|i3N> hey i've got a frozen program - how do i kill the process?
[12:19] <nagyv> draik: what woopsed ?
[12:19] <draik> I typed ls in konversation instead of my yakuake
[12:19] <nagyv> a|i3N: open Ksysguard
[12:20] <a|i3N> ah that's what that's for
[12:20] <a|i3N> hehe
[12:20] <draik> CTRL+X+C only starts a new command line
[12:20] <a|i3N> anybody in here play around with the level editor in pingus?
[12:20] <nagyv> draik: hmmm, not for me! alright, then click on F9, and under the File menu select chmod
[12:21] <nagyv> k31th: could you please help me with my mobile?
[12:21] <nagyv> Kr4t05: : could you please help me with my mobile?
[12:21] <draik> nagyv, chmod to what?
[12:22] <draik> chmod 777?
[12:22] <Kr4t05> nagyv: sorry, I have no experience with them. :/
[12:22] <draik> the entire CD or just the file?
[12:22] <nagyv> draik: make it executable for yourself/group/everyone as you prefer
[12:22] <draik> ok
[12:22] <draik> it is
[12:22] <nagyv> draik: the file is enough
[12:22] <soulrider> gan|y|med: i did it but it looks rather strange, i dont think the tutorial is well explained
[12:23] <draik> actually, it didn't change it
[12:23] <draik> chmod: changing permissions of `linux-installer.sh': Read-only file system
[12:23] <draik> the file is on a CD
[12:25] <draik> I just want to run a bash file       filename.sh
[12:25] <_lupine> "bash filename" ?
[12:26] <gan|y|med> soulrider: thx, i have found my failure, but my result looks the same
[12:26] <gan|y|med> very bad
[12:26] <nagyv> draik: and the file is not executable by default? (is it green in mc?)
[12:26] <draik> thank you _lupine, that works
[12:26] <_lupine> cool :)
[12:31] <boow> in text mode my text is scrolls beyond were i can see it anyone else have this problem
[12:31] <D4rkly> can anyone remeber the in xorg.conf to enable the windows keey
[12:32] <jake1> lspci did not tell me what driver my PCMCIA wireless card is using
[12:32] <jake1> i want to find out what driver eth2 is using for wireless
[12:32] <jake1> what command can i do to get that
[12:33] <joscha> are amarok 1.4.2 packages out anywhere?
[12:33] <boow> lsmod will tell you what modules loaded
[12:34] <InuDuelist> joscha: Yeah.
[12:34] <InuDuelist> They're in the repositories.
[12:34] <InuDuelist> Just sudo apt-get install amarok
[12:34] <gan|y|med> soulrider: could you get the bumpmap to work?
[12:35] <ravenous> jake1: run kcontrol, under internet & network, network settings
[12:35] <boow> i have amarok 1.4.1 check kubuntu site on how to install it
[12:36] <joscha> i already have 1.4.1
[12:37] <boow> if its not broke why are you fixing it
[12:38] <joscha> it broken;) i hate the new CollectionBrowser Behaviour with all Artist with only one Song seperatet
[12:38] <boow> just wait on a backport
[12:38] <joscha> and i love last.fm
[12:39] <boow> im just goofing around with this distro till slackware 11 comes out
[12:40] <boow> nice distro for those who want the easy way of doing things
[12:40] <beemonk> beemonk is now native on kunbuntu
[12:40] <beemonk> :D
[12:41] <boow> just wish they wouldn't split all the packages into devs
[12:42] <boow> well thats my 2 cents im out
[12:42] <beemonk> switching from my audigy 2 to my usb headset is a nightmare
[12:43] <Xcalibur> everyone
[12:43] <beemonk> yus
[12:43] <Xcalibur> I need help
[12:43] <Xcalibur> ok
[12:44] <jake1> the network settings does not show what driver the card is using
[12:44] <jake1> i want to know the driver
[12:44] <loic> Salut tout le monde
[12:45] <Xcalibur> I have a Compaq Presario with a AMD Athlon 2800+, 512MB DDR RAM, and a 120gb HDD, when I load up the kubuntu installation CD, it loads, but it goes to the part where
[12:45] <Xcalibur> it
[12:45] <Ethos> hi guys
[12:45] <Xcalibur> boots the kernel, and freezes?
[12:45] <Ethos> i'm trying to install a new font in ubuntu but i cant find the wine folder
[12:45] <Ethos> can someone help me with my stupid problem lol
[12:46] <oslo> i tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto , but i'm unable to find the mol package ....& yes universe & multiverse are activated. Can someone help me ?
[12:46] <Xcalibur> some plz help?
[12:46] <Hawkwind> Ethos: Have you asked the guys in #WineHQ ?
[12:46] <oslo> Ethos> look for */.wine/*
[12:47] <Hawkwind> Ethos: I assume it would be something like ~/wine  but I have never dealt with and don't plan on dealing with wine
[12:47] <Kr4t05> Xcalibur: did you get the right cd image?
[12:47] <Kr4t05> Xcalibur: Is it an Athlon 64
[12:47] <Xcalibur> I got it from the kubuntu.net
[12:47] <Xcalibur> no, not athlon 64
[12:47] <Ethos> thanks :)
[12:48] <Ethos> appreciate the replies
[12:48] <Kr4t05> Xcalibur: so, does the install Iso contain x86 in the filename?
[12:48] <Xcalibur> i can't remember, it's al on the CD now, i used deamon tools to mount the image, then Nero to copy it
[12:49] <Xcalibur> it worked fine on my friends PC
[12:49] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:50] <Xcalibur> I do know my PC is a x86
[12:50] <InuDuelist> If anyone's interested in the Vista Pre-RCI build, here's a link:
[12:50] <InuDuelist> http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/prerc1/en/download.html
[12:50] <Xcalibur> omg
[12:50] <InuDuelist> Even though I highly doubt it.
[12:50] <InuDuelist> And don't even dare start with that "OMG Piracy OMG WINDOZE" stuff.
[12:51] <Xcalibur> lol
[12:51] <Xcalibur> i wasn't
[12:51] <a|i3N> it sucks i tried it lol
[12:51] <Xcalibur> is this the whole windows vista?
[12:51] <InuDuelist> It's the Vista Pre-RC1 build.
[12:52] <InuDuelist> The whole thing, yes.
[12:52] <Xcalibur> how big is it/
[12:52] <a|i3N> if you sign up for the beta they'll notify you of the RC1 when it's released
[12:52] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:52] <InuDuelist> 2.6 GB.
[12:52] <Xcalibur> it downloaded really fast, lol
[12:52] <charims> Hi everyone
[12:52] <charims> ;)
[12:52] <InuDuelist> Mine's going top speed.
[12:52] <InuDuelist> The download, I mean.
[12:53] <InuDuelist> Hurry up, though.
[12:53] <InuDuelist> They could reach 100,000 downloads at any time.
[12:54] <a|i3N> an if you don't have a DVD burner forget it lol
[12:54] <nagyv> how can I find out which port is used by my mobile phone? I would like to use it as a modem with pppd.
[12:54] <InuDuelist> Deamon Tools.
[12:54] <InuDuelist> Or the Linux alternative.
[12:54] <a|i3N> HEY what's a good sega genesis emulator? with a GUI? hehe
[12:54] <lnxkde> :(
[12:55] <a|i3N> oh yea that's trye, daemon tools, but only if you're upgrading from Windows XP or 98
[12:55] <InuDuelist> Yummy:
[12:55] <InuDuelist> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2009452,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594
[12:57] <ravenous> 2.6 gigs seems awful small
[12:57] <Xcalibur> it DL'ed way to fast
[12:57] <Xcalibur> when I tried to mount it, it said invalid image file
[12:58] <ravenous> mine's taking forever
[12:59] <Xcalibur> anyone here use the Ubuntu server, and is ther a Kubuntu version of it?
[12:59] <Larynx> hello, boys n' girls. im installing kubuntu atm and im wondering if there is anybody who wanna help me with the partitioning cuz let kubuntu do it automatic is just boring. :)
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Xcalibur: ubuntu server and kubutnu server are same iirc
[12:59] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-server even
[12:59] <Xcalibur> they are bother the same?
[12:59] <Xcalibur> both*
[01:00] <ravenous> well ubuntu server doesnt even come with a DE so i dont see what the difference would be
[01:00] <ravenous> nor x for that matter
[01:00] <Xcalibur> so, there is no Kubuntu server?
[01:00] <waspius> hi...i found this really cool site http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en which has allot of useful apps etc.i am trying to download some things though but nothing is happening..most of the files exist also in a debian extention..can i find them some other way?
[01:00] <ravenous> Xcalibur: i dont think so
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Xcalibur: they use the same apps like apache and so on
[01:01] <apmyp> how to install FlashPlayer 8?
[01:01] <Xcalibur> i could just put abyss web server from aprelium.com
[01:01] <gnomefreak> Xcalibur: on the kubuntu alternative cd you can install server mode
[01:01] <Xcalibur> o
[01:01] <Xcalibur> cool
[01:01] <Xcalibur> I don't like apache eeeewwwww
[01:01] <Xcalibur> I don't get the configuring
[01:01] <Xcalibur> i like abyss, b/c it has a net configuring interface
[01:03] <gnomefreak> Xcalibur: i have only installed sever install a handful of times so im not sure what all it has but im sure its the same packages for all 4 server installs
[01:03] <Xcalibur> o
[01:03] <Xcalibur> ok
[01:03] <Xcalibur> i g2g
[01:03] <Xcalibur> i'm gonna play with Kubuntu on my other PC :)
[01:03] <Xcalibur> cya
 what was that last web page you gave me that had the already compile version of greexbox
[01:09] <JohnFlux> I have dvds that won't read in linux
[01:09] <JohnFlux> but do read in windows
[01:09] <JohnFlux> :/
[01:09] <JohnFlux> Anyone heard of this?
[01:09] <JohnFlux> I get read errors
[01:10] <dr_willis> I have some dvd's that wont read on this pc.. but will read on this OTHER one.. then i check again and they DO read on this one. :P
[01:10] <dr_willis> Im thinking my dvd drive is either dusty.. or wearing out.
[01:10] <dr_willis> Just seems to be the last file on the dvds also
[01:11] <Admiral_Chicago> dr_willis, no idea...
[01:12] <dr_willis> Yea - im not sure whats going on.. however i do live in a rather dusty/dog hair/ place. :P
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> if you had to explain what a package was to someone, how would you do it
[01:13] <foxjwill> Hi, I'm trying to install kubuntu (I currently use Ubuntu Dapper w/ GNOME), but I'm getting the following error message: libpoppler1-qt:
[01:13] <foxjwill> Depends: libpoppler1 (=0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[01:13] <foxjwill> more info is in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424
[01:15] <foxjwill> actually never mind. It's working to install it using aptitude
[01:15] <reddwolf78>  <vge> what was that last web page you gave me that had the already compile version of greexbox
[01:16] <D4rkly> does anyone know what line i put in Xorg.conf to enable the windows key ?
[01:16] <Admiral_Chicago> D4rkly, check your shortcuts
[01:16] <Admiral_Chicago> in System Settings
[01:16] <Admiral_Chicago> D4rkly, what do you want the key to do?
[01:17] <Admiral_Chicago> because I can use the key to skip a song in amarok (win + B)
[01:18] <ravenous> yeah works by default here in amarok as well
[01:21] <dr_willis> Heh - i just tested my dvd in my old ImacDV - and the thing just spits it out.,
[01:22] <dr_willis> Guess its so old - it cant handle a DVD+R
[01:25] <vge> reddwolf78: http://geexbox.org/en/downloads.html
[01:26] <reddwolf78> thanks i forgot to save it befor i left
 is there more to get for the k3b to be able to see an iso or is it all installed already
[01:29] <vge> if the iso file is there it should be able to see it?
[01:29] <dr_willis> what do ya mean by 'see' ? i burn iso images with k3b all the time
[01:30] <dr_willis> oh with geexbox.. Hmm.
[01:30] <foxjwill> Hi, i installed kubuntu via kubuntu-desktop, but ubuntu still boots up in gnome. Can someone please help me?
[01:32] <ravenous> foxjwill: click on 'sessions' at the login screen, and select 'kde'
[01:32] <InuDuelist> foxjwill: Bad move.
[01:32] <dr_willis> select KDE from the kdm/gem login screen. :P
[01:32] <foxjwill> i tried that. It didn't work
[01:32] <foxjwill> kde wasn't listed
[01:32] <dr_willis> I install ubuntu/kubuntu that way all the time.
[01:32] <dr_willis> odd.
[01:33] <InuDuelist> dr_willis, last time I tried that, it screwed my installation.
[01:33] <dr_willis> perhaps gdm needs to get restarted..
[01:33] <dr_willis> InuDuelist,  ive done it at least a dozen + times and never had an issue.
[01:33] <ravenous> shouldnt need to but its worth a try
[01:33] <dr_willis> and xubuntu-desktop
[01:33] <foxjwill> so, how do i restart gdm?
[01:33] <dr_willis> Or boot to the console or kill gdm. and make a .xinitrc that runs 'startkde'  then use 'startx'
[01:33] <dr_willis> - /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:34] <foxjwill> 'stop' not 'reload' or 'restart'?
[01:34] <InuDuelist> dr_willis, you don't use Aptitude or compile programs that much, do you?
[01:34] <dr_willis> stop will kill it :P then ya could  use the startx method.
[01:34] <dr_willis> InuDuelist,  been trying to compile MatchBox lately :P
[01:34] <InuDuelist> What sorts of problems have you been getting?
[01:34] <InuDuelist> Qt missing?
[01:35] <foxjwill> how do I make a .xintrc that runs 'startkde' then uses 'startx'?
[01:35] <dr_willis> with MatchBox its some sort of automake issue
[01:35] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[01:35] <dr_willis> echo "startkde" > .xinitrc
[01:35] <InuDuelist> So the ./configure goes through?
[01:35] <dr_willis> then try 'startx'
[01:35] <foxjwill> ok
[01:35] <dr_willis> InuDuelist,  Yep. i got all sort of dev packages installed. and ive compiled a lot of other things
[01:36] <InuDuelist> dr_willis, you lucky bastard.
[01:36] <InuDuelist> It was one time, and I screwed my entire installation.
[01:36] <InuDuelist> >_>
[01:36] <dr_willis> InuDuelist,  i would guess somthing else screwed ya up.
[01:37] <InuDuelist> Nope.
[01:37] <charims> awww, my cd burner won't burn at 4x it bumped it up to 8x, i hiope i don't get errors :(
[01:37] <dr_willis> 'prove that statement' InuDuelist
[01:37] <dr_willis> :P
[01:37] <InuDuelist> It was the fact that Ubuntu and Kubuntu didn't want to live together under one installation.
[01:37] <InuDuelist> They kept trying to delete eachother.
[01:37] <InuDuelist> I couldn't compile, nor could I use aptitude.
[01:37] <dr_willis> InuDuelist,  i know of  no one else thats ever had an issue with it.
[01:37] <dr_willis> what does compiling have to do with it?
[01:38] <InuDuelist> Nothing.
[01:38] <foxjwill> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/avi/.serverauth.6142
[01:38] <foxjwill> Fatal server error:
[01:38] <foxjwill> Server is already active for display 0
[01:38] <foxjwill>         If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[01:38] <foxjwill>         and start again.
[01:38] <foxjwill> is that alright?
[01:38] <InuDuelist> I meant that afterwards, I was left unable to compile.
[01:38] <dr_willis> foxjwill,  you still got an X started. :P
[01:38] <foxjwill> ok
[01:38] <dr_willis> that gdm stop line will kill x and gdm
[01:38] <foxjwill> ok
[01:38] <dr_willis> then 'startx' SHOULD start up kde.
[01:39] <foxjwill> so:
[01:39] <foxjwill> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:39] <foxjwill> sudo startx
[01:39] <foxjwill> right?
[01:39] <dr_willis> i think thats the right path/command - on a xp box at the moment
[01:39] <dr_willis> there is no need for sudo
[01:39] <foxjwill> ok
[01:39] <foxjwill> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/avi/.serverauth.6265
[01:39] <foxjwill> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[01:39] <foxjwill> xinit:  Server error.
[01:39] <foxjwill> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[01:40] <dec_> does anyone know what to install to watch quicktime movies on ubuntu 64 bit
[01:40] <ProJ3ct> Allo all
[01:40] <dr_willis> foxjwill,  now thats weird.
[01:40] <dec_> does anyone know what to install to watch quicktime movies on ubuntu 64 bit
[01:40] <subquantum> Do you need to belong to a particular group to be able to run X?
[01:41] <foxjwill> ok
[01:41] <dec_> does anyone know what to install to watch quicktime movies on ubuntu 64 bit
[01:41] <foxjwill> i also have kdm installed (but it's not running)
[01:41] <foxjwill> should i try starting that?
[01:41] <dec_> does anyone know what to install to watch quicktime movies on ubuntu 64 bit
[01:42] <subquantum> dec_: Check the Multimedia Codecs section of the official Ubuntu guide thingy
[01:42] <subquantum> I don't really remember if it says anything about quicktime there, but that's your best bet
[01:42] <dr_willis> Hmm ya could just start the kdm service. :P
[01:42] <dr_willis> or set it up where kdm is the default
[01:42] <dr_willis> but really startx should of workjed.. unless theres somthing we missed
[01:45] <subquantum> What's happening when you try and start kdm, foxjwill?
[01:45] <subquantum> >_> Or not
[01:45] <dr_willis> I think he FINIALLY stopped X. :P
[01:45] <subquantum> Heh
[01:46] <waspius> when u are speaking with someone on the msn and they send you a smiley and u are using adept where do u save it to be able to use them after?
[01:47] <jerry> :)
[01:47] <dr_willis> Huh,,
[01:47] <jerry> or "D
[01:47] <jerry> :D
[01:47] <subquantum> If you're using Adept to talk on MSN, there are other questions you should be asking >_>
[01:47] <dr_willis> adept is the package manager program.
[01:47] <dr_willis> :P
[01:47] <waspius> subquantum: ie?
[01:47] <dr_willis> so it cant chat on msn
[01:47] <jerry> or @D
[01:48] <waspius> yeah..sorry i meant kopete
[01:48] <jerry> or =)
[01:48] <subquantum> Adept isn't the program you're using - Could it be Kopete, or Gaim?
[01:48] <subquantum> Okay
[01:48] <jerry> or even =D
[01:48] <subquantum> Then, I have no idea
[01:48] <waspius> lol
[01:48] <jerry> or ^_^
[01:49] <subquantum> Ok
[01:49] <jerry> nm that's not a smile
[01:49] <subquantum> If you go to Settings, Configure Kopete
[01:49] <subquantum> on the Appearance Tab, you can configure Emoticons
[01:49] <dr_willis> Emoticons - what a name.
[01:49] <dr_willis> :)
[01:50] <foxjwill> I figured out what happened; for some reason, kubuntu-desktop didn't install. now when i try to, it comes back like this:
[01:50] <subquantum> <Xp
[01:50] <dr_willis> A+ for figureing it out.
[01:50] <foxjwill> kubuntu-desktop:
[01:50] <foxjwill>  Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[01:50] <dr_willis> Ive heard of others with that issue.. Im thinking a server may be having some issues.
[01:50] <subquantum> Oh, are you running Ubuntu and installing Kde packages?
[01:50] <foxjwill> ah
[01:50] <foxjwill> yes
[01:50] <dr_willis> not heard any definitive answers however.
[01:50] <dr_willis> !easysource
[01:50] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:50] <foxjwill> oh
[01:50] <foxjwill> :(
[01:51] <dr_willis> perhaps change mirrors
[01:51] <subquantum> Yeah - I tried that a while ago, and I ran into a few problems, one of which being GDM dying randomly - I switched to using KDM
[01:51] <foxjwill> us's 2 letter code is us, right?
[01:51] <foxjwill> not en?
[01:52] <subquantum> ...Depends
[01:53] <subquantum> En when you just mean english, and us for things like keyboard layouts I think
[01:53] <Kr4t05> Ok, fstab question. I sometimes get permission errors when trying to write to my FAT32 partition. What would be the umask/uid that would allow me full r/w/e privs?
[01:53] <subquantum> Umask 000 I think
[01:53] <foxjwill> kubuntu.org repositories are unsupported?
[01:53] <Kr4t05> Current options for that partition: "defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46"
[01:54] <Kr4t05> subquantum: so, I can just remove the gid?
[01:54] <subquantum> you might want to try changing 'defaults' to 'rw'
[01:54] <subquantum> ...Don't remember what gid does - I think you can get universal access to it if you just say "rw,utf8,umask=000"
[01:55] <subquantum> lemme take a look, I have the same situation
[01:55] <subquantum> Here's mine: /dev/hdb5       /files          vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:55] <subquantum> So, hmm
[01:56] <Kr4t05> subquantum: I think changing that to rw,utf,umask=000 would work.
[01:56] <Kr4t05> Works for me.
[01:56] <foxjwill> would this source list be good: http://pastebin.com/779333 ?
[01:57] <Kr4t05> foxjwill: looks okay.
[01:57] <foxjwill> ok
[01:57] <foxjwill> i'll use it then
[01:58] <Kr4t05> Mine has some user-owned repos, but you wouldn't miss much without them. Also, it's a bit risky to use un-official repos. :)
[01:58] <InuDuelist> Gah.
[01:58] <Kr4t05> imbrandon and nalioth. :)
[01:58] <InuDuelist> Homework.
[01:58] <Kr4t05> InuDuelist: pwned
[01:58] <subquantum> Yeah... I think I have wine and some other little things'
[01:58] <InuDuelist> The School-go-home-lover's worst enemy.
[01:58] <nalioth> Kr4t05: hmmm?
[01:59] <Kr4t05> nalioth: I was just plugging your repo.
[01:59] <subquantum> My classes don't start till next week ^_^
[01:59] <nalioth> Kr4t05: ah
[01:59] <subquantum> heh
[01:59] <Kr4t05> Heh, we may as well compare source.lists :P
[01:59] <foxjwill> it's /etc/sources.list, right?
[01:59] <InuDuelist> Yay.
[02:00] <Kr4t05> foxjwill: be sure to back up your default one
[02:00] <subquantum> it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <InuDuelist-RPing> OK, girls, let's share our sources.list LOL!
[02:00] <subquantum> Mine's standard, with a few extras:
[02:01] <subquantum> deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main
[02:01] <Timmmm> are bank accounts not free in America?
[02:01] <subquantum> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[02:01] <subquantum> Some ar
[02:01] <subquantum> e
[02:01] <subquantum> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[02:01] <Timmmm> Interesting. What do the ones you pay for give you that is worth any money?
[02:01] <subquantum> That's it for cool things
[02:02] <subquantum> I dunno, some might have checking overdraw protection (like, drawing money from a savings account instead of bouncing a check)
[02:02] <subquantum> There are a lot of banks, and they all have their little differences
[02:02] <Timmmm> Interesting
[02:02] <subquantum> Why, where do you live?
[02:03] <Timmmm> UK, never seen a bank account that costs money.
[02:03] <subquantum> Hmm
[02:03] <foxjwill> why aren't the kubuntu.org repositories supported?
[02:03] <Timmmm> Perhaps they have lower interest rates compared to inflation than in america.
[02:03] <subquantum> I'm pretty sure that my current accounts are free... I have a few, I just moved to college and got a new bank, so I'm not really familiar with it
[02:06] <Kr4t05> http://pastebin.com/779338 <- Mine. :)
[02:06] <Kr4t05> I keep alot of them commented out to avoid breaking things. Un-official stuff and such.
[02:07] <subquantum> Yeah, I keep myself busy with ensuring that things break at the same rate that I can repair them :p
[02:07] <Kr4t05> Heh
[02:08] <reddwolf78> is there a way to run a iso file with out haveing to but it on cd/dvd to install a program
[02:09] <subquantum> Yeah... I have mythtv running, xgl, the ATI driver, ut2k4, darwinia, HL2 via Cedega, and on top of that I use this to write stuff with SDL and OpenGL
[02:09] <subquantum> I have a lot that can break very easily, lol
[02:09] <subquantum> Yes, you can mount an ISO using mount
[02:09] <EmergeTW_> Anyone know if libvisual-plugins is in a kubuntu repository somewhere?
[02:09] <subquantum> you'll have to use -o loop I think
[02:10] <a|i3N> um. i'm trying to compile something and it's saying "bash: ./configure: permission denied" ??????????????????
[02:10] <subquantum> chmod a+x configure
[02:10] <subquantum> ?
[02:11] <reddwolf78> is there a way to run a iso file with out haveing to but it on cd/dvd to install a program if so could some one help me out with it
[02:11] <a|i3N> ok now i get "bash: ./configure: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"
[02:12] <a|i3N> grr. Trying to compile Gens
[02:12] <subquantum> >_> It sounds like there's a typo on your first line
[02:12] <RogueThunder> Anyone around fermilar with troubleshooting wlan setup around? I could... realy use some help.
[02:12] <subquantum> I've done a good deal with wireless
[02:12] <Martijn81> reddwolf78: yes, first make a folder, i.e. /media/iso and then mount the iso with loop on that file
[02:12] <RogueThunder> Yay... i hope.
[02:12] <subquantum> What's the problem?
[02:13] <RogueThunder> Just to start, ive got a wusb54g linksys usb card...
[02:13] <subquantum> Okay... Is it being autodetected by kubuntu?
[02:13] <RogueThunder> It was
[02:13] <subquantum> Okay
[02:13] <RogueThunder> i ended up trying ndiswrapper too
[02:13] <RogueThunder> which
[02:13] <Martijn81> !iso > reddwolf78
[02:13] <RogueThunder> had exactly teh same results
[02:14] <subquantum> So these results are...
[02:14] <RogueThunder> my card has both a native, and working ndiswrapper driver in theory
[02:14] <subquantum> okay
[02:14] <RogueThunder> it shows up as eth2, and doesnt work
[02:14] <subquantum> So iwconfig says that it has no wireless interface?
[02:14] <RogueThunder> leme check
[02:15] <reddwolf78> the iso i'm runing is for a geexbox
[02:15] <RogueThunder> Eth 2 is a wireless device
[02:15] <subquantum> Okay, good
[02:15] <reddwolf78> i have not done compileing befor and i tried the web for it and didn't under stand it
[02:15] <subquantum> So do you have an access point handy?
[02:15] <foxjwill> so, i've narrowed it down to:   libpoppler1-qt: Depends: libpoppler1 (= 0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:15] <RogueThunder> yes, and already gave the card the correct info for it
[02:15] <subquantum> okay
[02:15] <RogueThunder> and it says its invalid
[02:15] <subquantum> Hmm
[02:15] <RogueThunder> the thing is
[02:15] <foxjwill> that's the last of a chain of dependencies for kubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <RogueThunder> it shoudlnt beeth2, it should be wlan0
[02:16] <RogueThunder> from what ive researched
[02:16] <RogueThunder> though noone elces fixes i found worked
[02:16] <digivore> Hi
[02:16] <subquantum> As far as I know, native drivers run on the ethX's, and ndiswrapper'd drivers have wlanX
[02:16] <RogueThunder> ah.
[02:16] <RogueThunder> well
 i made the folder but how do i loop it
[02:16] <RogueThunder> i theoreticlay have ndiswrapper running it atm
[02:17] <digivore> can anyone recommend a package installer?
[02:17] <RogueThunder> ateast, according to ndiswrapper
[02:17] <subquantum> Okay - does iwconfig show more than one wireless interface?
[02:17] <RogueThunder> nope
[02:17] <foxjwill> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424 explains the problem
[02:17] <subquantum> Hmm
[02:17] <subquantum> If it works natively I wouldn't use ndiswrapper at all... you get fewer features with it
[02:17] <RogueThunder> eth0 is my dlink wired card thats utterly useless because the routers a room away
[02:17] <foxjwill> "The problem is the libpoppler1 package which is downloaded when you install Compiz. To get past this, you would have to force use of the Dapper version of libpoppler1."
[02:17] <foxjwill> any ideas?
[02:18] <RogueThunder> so should i take its driver out of ndiswrapper?
[02:18] <subquantum> I'd give that a try
[02:18] <RogueThunder> that will put me back to my starting
[02:18] <RogueThunder> which
[02:18] <RogueThunder> was no different
[02:18] <subquantum> Could be confusing it, having two different drivers for the same device
[02:18] <subquantum> hmm
[02:18] <RogueThunder> but, ya know, avoid conflict
[02:18] <RogueThunder> i didnt even have ndswrapper installed before
[02:18] <RogueThunder> and...the current status was the smae
[02:18] <subquantum> So when you say something like "sudo iwconfig eth2 essid MyAccessPoint mode Managed" it doesn't connect?
[02:19] <subquantum> Hmm
[02:19] <RogueThunder> er
[02:19] <RogueThunder> how do i remove a driver from ndiswrapper
[02:19] <RogueThunder> just, to prevent any possible
[02:19] <subquantum> That command should tell the card to try and connect
[02:19] <digivore> can anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?
[02:19] <subquantum> Um... I'm not sure
[02:19] <RogueThunder> right
[02:19] <RogueThunder> gimme a min to check
[02:19] <subquantum> My last laptop had ndiswrapper, and I never removed it >_>
[02:19] <ravenous> digivore: synaptic, aptitude
 i made the folder but how do i loop it
[02:20] <foxjwill> so, doesn anyone know how to force use of the Dapper versio nof libpoppler1 vs. the compiz version?
[02:20] <digivore> thanks ravenous
[02:20] <foxjwill> does
[02:20] <foxjwill> *
[02:20] <Martijn81> reddwolf78: sudo mount -t iso9660 /location/to/iso /location/to/mountpoint -o loop
[02:20] <reddwolf78> there are still a lot of things that are new to me for linux i just started about 2 weeks ago
[02:20] <RogueThunder> ok!
[02:21] <RogueThunder> rebooting to make sure its not using ndiswrapper
[02:21] <subquantum> Alright
[02:21] <RogueThunder> its ndiswrapper -e btw
[02:21] <subquantum> k
[02:21] <RogueThunder> my acess point uses wep btw
[02:22] <RogueThunder> as in, currently on
[02:22] <subquantum> Oh, okay
[02:22] <RogueThunder> im sure thats an extra hassle
[02:22] <subquantum> I don't remember offhand how to set the wep key..
[02:22] <RogueThunder> its just... kinda essensial due to location
[02:22] <RogueThunder> well
[02:22] <subquantum> "man iwconfig" should tell
[02:22] <RogueThunder> i whent in and custom typed in all the stuf
[02:22] <RogueThunder> following the... yeah
[02:23] <RogueThunder> *Whisles* almost booted
[02:23] <digivore> ravenous, i think there is another one, maybe something newer?  i forget the name...
[02:23] <RogueThunder> p3-800, takes a lil time booting
[02:23] <Martijn81> reddwolf78: but geexbox is a live-cd, right? Then you'll probably want to boot from it
[02:23] <subquantum> Heh
[02:23] <subquantum> Yeah
[02:23] <ravenous> not that i know of those are the big ones
[02:23] <subquantum> My parents are running kubuntu on a 300mhz P1
[02:23] <RogueThunder> Heh
[02:23] <subquantum> That... may have been a mistake
[02:23] <RogueThunder> then again
[02:23] <RogueThunder> its faster than my p-m 1.4 running windows xp
[02:23] <RogueThunder> so
[02:23] <RogueThunder> lol
[02:24] <RogueThunder> to boot that is
[02:24] <subquantum> Right...
[02:24] <reddwolf78> thats what i'm trying to do but for some reason k3b would not but it on cd for me couse it say it can'
[02:24] <acidx> hiii everybody
[02:24] <reddwolf78> can't read the iso
[02:24] <subquantum> My desktop is a quad-core Xeon, 2.0ghzX4
[02:24] <subquantum> the SMP kernel makes much better use of the multi cores than XP did
[02:25] <a|i3N> subquantum can i send you that file - maybe see what's wrong with it
[02:25] <Martijn81> reddwolf78: you don't need to mount an iso to burn it, you can do it though, but it would destroy the boot capability
[02:26] <silentj> hello all
[02:26] <silentj> sup ?
[02:26] <reddwolf78> i'm not sure what i'm trying to do i would like to get geexbox on linux
[02:27] <reddwolf78> if you have a better idea of how to do this please let me know
[02:27] <nO01> t
[02:27] <nO01> t
[02:27] <RogueThunder> do i need quotes or anything around my essid if it has a space in it?
[02:28] <Martijn81> reddwolf78: geekbox is just a live-cd based on linux, it would not install anything to your hard drive, it's like you start a pre-installed session from a cd
[02:29] <charims> "how to save a life...."
[02:29] <acidx> I have a question, im runnin ubuntu dapper 6.06 , at first when i place the cursor over an image file on my desktop i could see a preview on the file tip. but not anymore. in konqueror the option to see preview in file tip is enabled... any idea?
[02:29] <InuDuelist> Gar, more homework.
[02:29] <InuDuelist> I really should write this stuff down.
[02:29] <charims> Gar, no homework
[02:29] <InuDuelist> Hehe.
[02:29] <charims> :)
[02:29] <charims> i didnt get any today
[02:29] <InuDuelist> My school's starting a Linux class.
[02:29] <InuDuelist> The bad part is that it's starting in 6 years, when I'm out of it.
[02:29] <charims> reall,y awesome
[02:29] <charims> :)
[02:29] <acidx> ?
[02:30] <charims> aww
[02:30] <reddwolf78> oh ok then thats not what i need then i need a mediaplayer that works with shoutcast for me to be able to dj from my hard drive and i need it to be so i can intall it on the linux program
[02:30] <reddwolf78> do you know of any that are like that
[02:30] <Martijn81> reddwolf78: normally you start K3B and hit "burn image", that and hitting ok is all it would need generally
[02:31] <reddwolf78> ok
[02:31] <RogueThunder> hey subquantum what was that line again
[02:32] <RogueThunder> i cant find it heh
[02:32] <reddwolf78> but the geexbox is a live image i need on my linux so i can dj how is the live image going to help me when i need the web browser to get request from pple
[02:32] <acidx> hellllo?
[02:33] <Larynx> y0y0
[02:33] <ryanakca> how do you record your desktop? like into a movie
[02:34] <Martijn81> reddwolf78: if i follow correctly you already have linux((k)ubuntu?) installed and now you want extra software on your disk?
[02:34] <reddwolf78> sort of
[02:34] <RogueThunder> Subquantum?
[02:35] <reddwolf78> i need a media format that i can dj from like sam cast or icecast but shout cast works too
[02:35] <reddwolf78> and there are few mediaplayers that can do it
[02:36] <ravenous> have you tried the xmms plugin
[02:36] <RogueThunder> O.o
[02:36] <RogueThunder> hello subquantum
[02:37] <RogueThunder> having some... connection issues? lol
[02:37] <Martijn81> reddwolf78:  ah, well you'll not need the geebox cd then, just software from the repository or from the websites that deliver the software. Though i am not into the building service thing yet, maybe someone else can help you with that
[02:37] <InuDuelist> Haha!
[02:37] <InuDuelist> Homework! I've conquered you once more!
[02:37] <reddwolf78> ok
[02:37] <InuDuelist> That's how good I am.
[02:37] <InuDuelist> I got two people gone.
[02:37] <InuDuelist> With my mad-homework-squicked squittles.
[02:38] <reddwolf78> do you know of someone that could help me or a better way i can say what i want to do
[02:38] <reddwolf78> to get the right kind of help
[02:38] <ravenous> reddwolf78: there are a a bunch of icecast stuff right in the repositories if you have universe/multiverse enabled
[02:39] <RogueThunder> ...
[02:39] <RogueThunder> Subquantum? you there?
[02:39] <charims> Hey everyone, i still have a sound problem, and Gaim makes sounds, but nothing else, or not that i know of. Also whenever i try to play an mp3 or something, the program freezes, or breaks the sound system so the sound goes away till i reboot or it does both. I have an Nvidia CK8 using Alsa Snd-Intel8x0. Please help
[02:39] <reddwolf78> i have some things for universe/multiverse enabled but i'm not sure what to look for in the respositories
[02:40] <ravenous> try liveice, the description says 'live audio streaming application', sudo apt-get install liveice .. or open synaptic/adept and search for 'icecast'
[02:40] <charims> kk, ty
[02:41] <gotmilk> hey i can get net access, but when i try to get updates through adept its never able to download anythinhg
[02:41] <acidx> hey where can i get some support please?
[02:42] <charims> maybe your repositories are messed up,try enabling them
[02:42] <gotmilk> ive done that already
[02:42] <charims> sorry, out of suggestions then
[02:42] <gotmilk> lol thanks :)
 it says it got the files and instaled them but how do i know if witch program to go into
[02:43] <reddwolf78> to make use of them
[02:43] <charims> yeah, noobs normally don't have much for suggestions
[02:43] <ravenous> reddwolf78: if its not in your menu then open a terminal and type the name of the program, 'liveice', or whatever the name is
[02:44] <ravenous> or hit alt+f2 and type it in
[02:44] <acidx> hey ??
[02:44] <reddwolf78> 6238:Error: Line In mode *and* no soundcard??????? Eeejit! i get this message
[02:45] <digivore> is there a specific name for programs like 'adept' and 'synaptic'?
[02:45] <ravenous> package managers
[02:45] <digivore> ok
[02:45] <Jucato> more specifically Package Manager GUI frontends...
[02:45] <charims> 10694:Error: Line In mode *and* no soundcard??????? Eeejit!
[02:46] <charims> same here
[02:47] <reddwolf78> i have a sound card
[02:47] <charims> me too, and its listed....
[02:47] <charims> ummmm??
[02:48] <charims> sum1, please help
[02:49] <charims> charims@Kubby:~/Desktop$ liveice
[02:49] <charims> playlist
[02:49] <charims>  10963:Error: Line In mode *and* no soundcard??????? Eeejit!
[02:49] <RogueThunder> Well
[02:49] <ravenous> man liveice, or liveice -h, or look it up in the forums
[02:49] <RogueThunder> since subquantum vanished... anyone fermilar with getting wireless cards to work? i could relay use some help XD...
[02:50] <Martijn81> charims: maybe the tool need configuration first, not sure
[02:50] <arejaytee> which archives should i use?
[02:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> !wireless
[02:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> RogueThunder: Look there. :)
[02:50] <RogueThunder> yeah... tried that stuf
[02:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh.
[02:50] <RogueThunder> and more
[02:50] <arejaytee> !archives
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <charims> kk, will try
[02:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> RogueThunder: What chipset, and what exactly have you done?
[02:51] <RogueThunder> its a prism54 ive determined, wusb54g linsys card
[02:52] <RogueThunder> and... ive done more than i can easily type
[02:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[02:52] <RogueThunder> the most notible things ive done, are try installing ndiswrapper and a driver through that...
[02:52] <RogueThunder> and nothing changed
[02:52] <arejaytee> hrmm wierd , wont let me drag windows onto the other desktops either
[02:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> RogueThunder: When you ran ndiswrapper -l does it show everything working?
[02:53] <RogueThunder> not now, but thats because a few min ago i removed it from ndiswrapper
[02:53] <RogueThunder> prism54 has a native driver theoreticlay
[02:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> So does my bcm4318, but the firmware isn't included.
[02:54] <RogueThunder> mmm?
[02:54] <RogueThunder> why would the firmware be needed?
[02:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> I think that was the reason nothing worked. :P
[02:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> All I really know is that it didn't work, I somehow disabled the driver, used ndiswrapper, and it worked. ;)
[02:55] <RogueThunder> my windows driver, is firmware free too impretty sure
[02:55] <RogueThunder> which, is what ndiswrapper uses so
[02:56] <RogueThunder> but yeah
[02:57] <RogueThunder> so... your about as clueless but slightly luckier than i am eh?
[02:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> RogueThunder: Pretty much. ;)
[02:58] <RogueThunder> I did have ndiswrapper installed with the right driver... but i didnt disable anything elce
[02:58] <RogueThunder> nor would i have a clue how to
[02:58] <RogueThunder> well
[02:58] <RogueThunder> i tried someones blacklist thingy found on the forum
[02:59] <RogueThunder> but that just made it not show up at all
[02:59] <RogueThunder> which... was supposedly for the exact same card... but *shrug
[02:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> It didn't show up where?
[02:59] <RogueThunder> anywhere.
[03:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> Not even lspci? :o
[03:00] <RogueThunder> uh
[03:00] <RogueThunder> its usb...
[03:00] <RogueThunder> of course its not in lspci :P
[03:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh.
[03:00] <RogueThunder> *laughs*
[03:01] <RogueThunder> i dont think i checekd... i foget the command but the usb version of that command
[03:01] <RogueThunder> it probly was there
[03:01] <RogueThunder> ive typed it 5 times
[03:01] <RogueThunder> i still cant remember it
[03:01] <RogueThunder> none of those times were during that attempt
[03:02] <arejaytee> i can browse to the the archives in konqeuror but cant access with apt-get or adept? wtf
[03:04] <Jucato> arejaytee: archives, as in .tar.gz right?
[03:04] <arejaytee> can someone paste thier working sources.list?
[03:04] <arejaytee> no as in archive.ubuntu.com
[03:04] <Jucato> oh
[03:05] <charims> ISOMagic
[03:05] <dr_willis> !easysource
[03:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:06] <arejaytee> thanks
[03:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> arejaytee: If you still care to see it, mine's at http://pastebin.com/779364
[03:08] <silentj> hello
[03:09] <silentj> anyone here?
[03:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Howdy.
[03:09] <silentj> hows it goin cheese?
[03:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm good, you?
[03:09] <silentj> good good
[03:09] <r3volta`daef> hello can some1help me ?
[03:09] <silentj> playin wit my new shiny ubuntu
[03:09] <silentj> what you need guy?
[03:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> r3volta`daef: The problem is?
[03:10] <silentj> im like a nooob or whatever but maybe i can muster somethin
[03:10] <r3volta`daef> i cant connect to quakenet  dunno why
[03:10] <arejaytee> thanks CheeseBurgerMan i will check it ok
[03:10] <r3volta`daef> i got this error msg
[03:10] <r3volta`daef> Connection to Server irc.quakenet.org lost: name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect
[03:10] <r3volta`daef> i am connecting over Konversation client
[03:12] <RogueThunder> Well, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...
 i think i found what i was loking for with in amarok i just need to figure out how to set it up
[03:16] <charims> Yay, installing Kubuntu on another machine!! had to use irqpoll to make the cd mount tho.....
[03:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> RogueThunder: I think the command you were searching for it lsusb
[03:16] <charims> what does IRQPOLL do anyways?
[03:18] <RogueThunder> eh, not searching for it realy but heh thtas it
[03:20] <arejaytee> still just sitting on waiting for headers and not moving !!!GRRRR
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> !headers
[03:20] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[03:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh wait.
[03:21] <RogueThunder> interesting...
[03:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> arejaytee: You were the one having problems connecting with apt, right?
[03:21] <RogueThunder> its id doesnt match the one on the ndiswrapper site fully
[03:21] <arejaytee> yeah
[03:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> RogueThunder: That may be why it's not working right. ;)
[03:22] <Generic> I think I spotted a tiny bug while trying to install libgtk+-2.0
[03:22] <Generic> http://pastebin.com/779372
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> arejaytee: I'm not sure what to say. You can connect to it (or that's what you said earlier), but apt's not doing it right.
[03:22] <RogueThunder> Yeah, except im sure its that model... considering ive used this card in windows many times, and the driver is very spesific.
[03:22] <Generic> er, libgtk2.0-dev
[03:22] <richard_> Anyone get Clamav to install properly into 6.06.1?
[03:23] <Generic> antivirus.....in linux?
[03:23] <RogueThunder> yes...
[03:23] <RogueThunder> of course
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> richard_: sudo apt-get install clamav not working?
[03:24] <richard_> I've used synaptic and adept and apt-get install and they all say that some dependencies are required. .. .
[03:24] <richard_> This hasn't happened before on previous installs. ...
[03:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> What dependencies?
[03:25] <richard_> Thats what I can't figure out. . . .I've install all of the Clam files and Klamav files that are available for the heck of it and I still get the error message. . ..
[03:25] <red> anyone have standby or suspend problems with their notebook
[03:25] <red> ill open it up, and nothing happens, i have to hard power it down and restart
[03:25] <Generic> richard_, can you pastebin the errors?
[03:25] <Generic> !pastebin
[03:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:26] <charims> : Gaim makes sound, but nothing else :(
[03:26] <Generic> so, anyone have any ideas on my issues with installing libgtk2.0-dev?
[03:26] <Ubuntu_Malay> Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuh
[03:26] <richard_> The errors aren't any much more than what I've just stated. ...just that dependencies are lacking. ...
[03:26] <arejaytee> damnit it started to work in adept, but now its stopping at 30%
[03:26] <Jucato> anyone here using the KDE composite manager (kompmgr)?
[03:26] <richard_> I took Clamav off the system yesterday. ..because of the frustration
[03:27] <Generic> richard_, from what I've read, you're describing your problem veerrry vaguely
[03:27] <Generic> if you can pastebin the error message, that would help a lot more
[03:28] <Ubuntu_Malay> Is GNOME difference then KDE?
[03:28] <Jucato> yes
[03:28] <Generic> Ubuntu_Malay, yes
[03:28] <richard_> I know that's the problem the  error message was vague. . ..
[03:28] <Generic> !gnome > Ubuntu_Malay
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ubuntu_Malay: Yes. install them both, and find out which you like better. :)
[03:29] <richard_> I'll reinstall it now and come back and post again. ...
[03:29] <Ubuntu_Malay> OIC
[03:29] <red> how do i find out which version of KDE i have, because im having problems installing themes
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> kded --version
[03:30] <ravenous> or in any program under help, 'about kde'
[03:30] <red> okay well the themes i got off of kde-look.org dont work
[03:30] <red> or i have yet to get one to work
[03:33] <Ubuntu_Malay> I'm new to Linux and too young (19). How can I do to improve it?
[03:33] <charims> Linux is Awesome
[03:33] <charims> especially Kubuntu
[03:34] <aaron> I'm having an issue with my Dapper router/server machine.  It provides DNS and DHCP via dnsmasq, and NAT via Guidedog.  When any of the machines on the internal network run Bittorrent, somewhere within 5 minutes to 1 hour the machine will lock hard, refusing to come out of screensaver.  The ram checks good in memtest...anyone have experience with this issue?
[03:34] <aaron> I can't seem to find any reference to the problem in the kernel logs, either.
[03:36] <charims> why does kaffeine say its muted? I can't get any sound from any program other than Gaim
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> charims: because it's muted?
[03:36] <charims> well, i can't unmute it
[03:37] <RogueThunder> Well aaron, i seem to recall there being a problem with the screensaver in dapper
[03:37] <charims> its stuck on mute, and grayed out
[03:37] <RogueThunder> you might check teh known gliches isting
[03:37] <charims> and freezes when i try to play sometihng
[03:37] <charims> just like amarok
[03:39] <aaron> I suppose it could be an issue with xscreensaver...although the whole machine dies, no network traffic in or out.
[03:39] <red> what the crap, these thems are drivin me nuts
[03:39] <red> my kde is 3.5.2
[03:39] <Generic> charims, change the engine it's using
[03:39] <archangel_> I need some help
[03:39] <Jucato> red: what theme are you trying to install?
[03:39] <red> anyone that i get from kde-look.org under the 3.5 section
[03:40] <red> thye are *.kth
[03:40] <red> it says its not valid
[03:40] <charims> i tried to change to alsa, and it froze
[03:40] <Jucato> red: how are you trying to install it?
[03:40] <archangel_> cant get my display to more than 640x480
[03:40] <archangel_> drivers are installed
[03:40] <red> using the KDM Theme Manager
[03:40] <Jucato> red: err.. that's the problem...
[03:40] <xwolf-> archangel_ how about reconfiguring xserver-xorg?
[03:41] <red> nice
[03:41] <archangel_> yeah I tried xwolf-
[03:41] <Jucato> red: .kth files are installed there
[03:41] <red> i appreciate any help
[03:41] <tj_> ok i need help plz
[03:41] <red> how do i go about installing them then
[03:41] <archangel_> xwolf-: I dont know what the deal is
[03:41] <xwolf-> archangel_ if that doesnt work, i dont know of any other way.
[03:41] <Jucato> red: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" (no quotes), then under Appearance, look for Theme Manager
[03:42] <charims> at Generic Kaffeine Froze
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> red: Are you running it in Admin mode?
[03:42] <archangel_> xwolf-: my mom is visiting me and she likes to play the games on my pc, she thought the pc was off and pressed power
[03:42] <red> yea
[03:42] <tj_> i downloaded this thing called imvu what do i open it with or what do i do
[03:42] <red> there is it
[03:42] <red> i see the ones that i installed now
[03:42] <charims> at Genereic: It froze when i tried to switch to alsa
[03:42] <red> how come the other theme manager doesnt work though
[03:42] <archangel_> xwolf-: when the pc rebooted, I no longer get a high res
[03:42] <Jucato> red: because it's for  the KDM (Login) Themes
[03:43] <red> i got ya
[03:43] <tj_> can somebody plz plz help
[03:43] <red> i thought something seemed kinda wierd when i was changing the one and nothing was happening
[03:43] <red> thanks for your help
[03:43] <xwolf-> archangel_ i have this problem when i start linux with my monitor shut down.. don't know what it is though
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Uh, if you don't know what it is, why did you download it?
[03:44] <tj_> i do know what it is
[03:44] <Jucato> red: no problem. just take note that some .kth themes won't work unless you have the needed icons, widget styles, and window decorations installed, too.
[03:44] <tj_> i dont know how to open it
[03:44] <xwolf-> tj_ there should be some kind of readme file, dude.
[03:44] <tj_> its a different kind of chat
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: OK, what is it?
[03:44] <red> i got ya
[03:44] <archangel_> xwolf-: it's wierd man, I got the biggest icons in the world
[03:45] <xwolf-> archangel_ sorry, can't help you
[03:45] <red> have you ever heard of any problems with notebooks coming out of standby or suspend when you open the lid
[03:45] <tj_> cheeseburg it s a different kind of chat
[03:45] <tj_> how do i install it im a noob to linux
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Uh, I'm not exactly sure. Maybe running ./imvu ?
[03:47] <tj_> with konsole?
[03:47] <archangel_> xwolf-: its ok dude. I'm new to linux and dont know any commands. I have two books that takes me forever to find the command I am looking for
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: yes.
[03:47] <AndrukTatum> hello, my ethernet connection (should be eth0) is not working
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: What kind of file is it?
[03:48] <archangel_> xwolf-: what is the command that configs xorg
[03:48] <tj_> .exe
[03:48] <AndrukTatum> can anybody point me to a website that can help me fix it?  (Ubuntu Dapper)
[03:48] <tj_> its a setup also
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Uh, is it for Linux?
[03:48] <Jucato> archangel_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:48] <tj_> yah im pretty sure
[03:48] <archangel_> xwolf-: thats it, thanks man
[03:48] <Agios> archangel_: kcontrol, peripherals, display   see what you have there
[03:48] <archangel_> I'll try it again
[03:49] <soundgate> anybody here using wine?
[03:49] <tj_> omg im an idiot it doesnt only windows sorry
[03:49] <tj_> dammit
[03:49] <archangel_> you mean under hardware? xwolf-
[03:49] <xwolf-> what?
[03:50] <xwolf-> archangel_ are you on kde right now?
[03:50] <tj_> brb
[03:50] <archangel_> lol sorry
[03:50] <archangel_> I thought it was you talking
[03:50] <xwolf-> well, it wasnt :)
[03:50] <archangel_> I should lean to read
[03:50] <AndrukTatum> does anybody know how to configure an ethernet card in dapper?  mine went out on me when win...s crashed last time (why am i not surprised).
[03:50] <archangel_> (and type)
[03:51] <Eleaf> oo
[03:51] <soundgate> im trying to install an application with wine. how do I change the destination directory in the install shield wizard?
[03:51] <archangel_> by the way yes, I am in KDE
[03:51] <Eleaf> soundgate, the installer will usually ask where you want to install something.
[03:51] <xwolf-> archangel_ i wasn't talking, but the idea is to either go to a command line and type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' (no quotes) or open kcontrol and take a look on the display settings
[03:51] <Eleaf> I'm not sure if you can control it much past that.  Possibly.
[03:52] <xwolf-> archangel_ you can open kcontrol by pressing alt+f2 then typing "kcontrol" (no quotes)
[03:52] <RogueThunder> Well, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...
[03:52] <soundgate> yah, the default is in c:\Program Files\
[03:52] <archangel_> ok
[03:52] <tj_> im downloading a game called toribash this is for linux do i open it with /bin/tar like it says or save to disk
[03:52] <soundgate> I have to change that, right?
[03:52] <xwolf-> gotta go now. see you all
[03:52] <archangel_> my drivers are installed
[03:53] <archangel_> hardware is nvidea
[03:53] <archangel_> nvidia
[03:53] <Languid> konversation users: i just made the switch from x-chat and am wondering if there is an equivalent command for "/mode %n +x" on channel join in konvi
[03:54] <soundgate> eleaf: the default is in c:\Program Files. I have to change that, right?
[03:55] <archangel_> hey can I send you the errors that I get?
[03:56] <Jucato> archangel_: try to put it in pastebin
[03:56] <Jucato> !pastebin
[03:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:56] <archangel_> k
[03:56] <soundgate> why can't I send messages in other channels? I get the error "cannot send to channel" . I already did register and identify.
[03:57] <tj_> i downloaded a game for linux do i open it with /bin/tar like it says or do i save to disk
[03:57] <Jucato> tj_: what file type is it?
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: opening it with /bin/tar downloads it to a temporary file, then opens it with /bin/tar. Saving it to disk lets you save it somewhere permanately.
[03:57] <Jucato> soundgate: maybe it's +m (moderated)
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: I personally tend to save to disk.
[03:57] <tj_> ok ill save to disk
[03:57] <tj_> + its a .tgz
[03:58] <soundgate> how do I use that? +m
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> soundgate: you can't unless you're an OP.
[03:58] <tj_> now its on my desktop what do i have to do to play it
[03:59] <Jucato> soundgate: it's a channel setting that only ops can change/set. It means that noone except those voiced (+v) can speak in the channel
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: try either opening it in Ark, or running 'tar zxvf <name of file>'
[03:59] <soundgate> im just new to irc. so how can I send messages in channels that doesn't allow me to?
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Uh, you can't....
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's kinda the point of not allowing you to.
[04:00] <tj_> i moved the file into ark where do i go from here
[04:00] <soundgate> yah, but is there a way that I could ask a permission?
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Hit the extract button.
[04:01] <charims> Can some1 help me with ym sound problem, there are too many symptoms to name here, i would like to DCC chat with whoever is going to help me
[04:01] <tj_> i rxtracted them now...........
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: what files are there?
[04:02] <archangel_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22014
[04:02] <tj_> toribashd-1.97
[04:02] <tj_> stance
[04:02] <tj_> init.sta
[04:02] <tj_> player1.sta
[04:03] <tj_> player2.staq
[04:03] <tj_> sta*
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Wait. Pastebin it.
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> !pastebin.
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oops.
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> !pastebin
[04:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:03] <tj_> pastebin?
[04:03] <charims> Will someone please help me with my sound problem in DCC
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Uh..read what ubotu just said.
[04:03] <Hawkwind> soundgate: You have to be patient....what channel is it ?
[04:03] <soundgate> winehq
[04:04] <Hawkwind> soundgate: It's not moderated at all so you should be able to speak in #WineHQ
[04:04] <obf213> anyone know how to change tags on m4a files on amarok
[04:05] <archangel_> Jucato: just is case you didnt get it    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22014
[04:05] <obf213> i change the extension of th efiles to .mp3 they play but when i change the tag amarok completely f;s the song and play back is insane
[04:05] <AndrukTatum> obf213: are the files on an ntfs filesystem?
[04:06] <obf213> they are on my linux
[04:06] <rOOb> anyone know if or when the new nvidia driver is gonna be build for ubuntu?
[04:06] <soundgate> hawkwind: I still get the error cannot send to channel..
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Just run 'ls' in the directory the files are in and pastebin the results.
[04:06] <Hawkwind> soundgate: Part the channel and rejoin it and see if that helps.  What IRC client ?
[04:06] <obf213> i just have w/e format the linux hdd is i think its
[04:06] <soundgate> im on gaim
[04:06] <obf213> it really sucks cuz  the songs just get all screwed up and automatically deleted its wierd
[04:07] <Hawkwind> soundgate: Try using an actual IRC client like Xchat or irssi
[04:07] <Agios> rOOb: I just installed it from the one on the nvidia site. <shrug>
[04:07] <rOOb> im gonna have to do that soon...
[04:07] <rOOb> i thought they would have it built quick
[04:07] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Why ?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> rOOb: What is so important that you have to have the new version ?
[04:07] <Agios> it's not like the older one is broken
[04:08] <Hawkwind> rOOb: You aren't using Xorg 7.1
[04:08] <AndrukTatum> obf213: what do you mean screwed up?  they stop playing?  they play weird?
[04:08] <AndrukTatum> they make noises they shouldnt?
[04:08] <rOOb> Hawkwind, well iwant the newest .....
[04:08] <Hawkwind> rOOb: So it's not that you *need* them
[04:08] <rOOb> its not a huge deal.......
[04:08] <obf213> they play wierd
[04:08] <Hawkwind> rOOb: The new ones give you no added benefit at all over the ones you're using
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Hello? Are you still here?
[04:08] <rOOb> i WANT them ;D
[04:08] <obf213> like play back is all of a sudden jhust like strach sounds AndrukTatum
[04:08] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Having the latest software is not always the best idea
[04:09] <Hawkwind> rOOb: You should know this from your XGL experiences
[04:09] <rOOb> hehe
[04:09] <AndrukTatum> obf213, what version of amarok?
[04:10] <obf213> let me found out
[04:10] <obf213> i just tried it again
[04:10] <obf213> its really effed up
[04:10] <obf213> it shortens the song to like 3 seconds of a screech and and thats it
[04:10] <tj_> i accidently posted it as you saying it but do you see it
[04:11] <tj_> cheeseburg
[04:11] <RogueThunder> Well, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...
[04:12] <obf213> AndrukTatum how do i find the version
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: I don't see a link to the pastebin of the files.
[04:12] <obf213> AndrukTatum 1.3.9
[04:12] <tj_> how do i do that
[04:12] <tj_> i typed it all in
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj9991: In pastebin?
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Maybe you should press the send button.
[04:13] <tj_> i did
[04:14] <a|i3N> Hey is there a free graphics editor for kubuntu that's as good as photoshop?
[04:14] <tj_> i sent it again
[04:14] <tj_> it says tj needs help[
[04:14] <archangel_> CheeseBurgerMan: could you look at my errors and tell me what the heck it wrong?
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Did you look at the read me?
[04:14] <tj_> its under recent posts
[04:14] <tj_> no
[04:15] <tj_> i will
[04:15] <tj_> now
[04:15] <archangel_> CheeseBurgerMan: if you can  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22014
[04:16] <obf213> ya they need to work on better support for restricted formats.
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> archangel_: Right, it's opening now.
[04:16] <obf213> or give an option to convert to different forms
[04:16] <archangel_> thanks
[04:17] <tj_> it ssays only to look in start_all.sh for examples of what main servers to run
[04:17] <AndrukTatum> obj213: okay, well, i too have already had problems with amarok (the database).  i know for a fact that they no longer support 1.3.9, but i would try to look online for help (Google "amarok, ubuntu, tags, 1.3.9" without the quotes or any combination thereof.  sorry dude
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> archangel_: Sorry, all I could suggest is to run sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg (which you've probably done)
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj9991: Hmm, try looking in start_all.sh for examples of what main servers to run.
[04:18] <tj_> k
[04:18] <AndrukTatum> a|i3N yes
[04:18] <Agios> archangel_: run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to correct this
[04:18] <archangel_> CheeseBurgerMan: yeah, those are the errors I get after running it
[04:18] <archangel_> CheeseBurgerMan: oh ok, I did the sudo thing
[04:19] <AndrukTatum> a|i3N: its called gimp, i think its located at gimp.org if you want to check it out.  to install it (if it isnt installed automatically), use a gui version of apt-get (synaptic, adept, ...)
[04:19] <tj_> cheeseburg it gives me like a code can i like copy and paste that to konsole?
[04:20] <obf213> i was just wondering something
[04:20] <obf213> why do php's run so much slower on firefox than konqueror
[04:20] <tj_> cheeseburg it gives me like a code can i like copy and paste that to konsole?
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: I dunno. What does it give you?
[04:21] <tj_> ill do another paste bin
[04:21] <obf213> for example of certain sites like facebook the status bar will go to 75% then hang, and i have refresh a lot until the page actually shows up but on konquerer it just works
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: OK, please give me the link this time.
[04:22] <tj_> how
[04:22] <tj_> do i give you the link
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> In the recent posts menu, right click on the link to your post, click on copy link, and then paste it in here.
[04:23] <tj_> k
[04:24] <Zamboulie> # kubuntu-xgl is the thing right?
[04:24] <RogueThunder> Well, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...
[04:24] <Zamboulie> #kubuntu-xgl
[04:26] <StrudelNinja> hey, how do I mount my iPod
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> !ipod
[04:26] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or maybe !mount
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> !mount
[04:26] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:27] <AndrukTatum> RogueThunder: try ndiswrapper, or if you have an atheros chipset, try madwifi
[04:27] <barros_> hi.. I've just done a big stupid thing here.. accidentaly done a rm -Rf /usr/lib/python-2.4/site-packages... is there any way to recover all packages affected by this rm??
[04:27] <AndrukTatum> RougueThunder: and those are IRC channels, i forgot to include that
[04:27] <|Kasatka> How can i view how much space i have left on my hard drive?
[04:28] <Agios> |Kasatka: df at a command line
[04:28] <|Kasatka> Agios: Thanks
[04:30] <barros_> any hints??
[04:30] <tj_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22016
[04:30] <tj_> there ya go cheeseburg
[04:31] <charims> Hi everyone, i just posted my problem on Pastebin, I am having sound issues, please go here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22017
[04:31] <Jucato> [ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:31] <red> anyone with a notebook have problems with the computer coming out of suspend/standby when the lid is opened again, becuase i am
[04:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj9991: That doesn't look like commands to me.
[04:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Sorry, tj_
[04:32] <tj_> i wrote it out
[04:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Why not just copy&paste it?
[04:32] <tj_> you cant copy  + paste anything
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Why not?
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just open the script in kate.
[04:33] <tj_> kate? ok
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes, kate. KDE Advanced Text Editor (or something)
[04:33] <jott_> barros_: you could do something like this: dpkg-query -S "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/*" | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq
[04:34] <jott_> more s/2.3/2.4/
[04:34] <RogueThunder> Hey cheeseburgerman, ive determined something incredibly annoying, theres 2 versions of the wusb54g, determined by opening the inf file and taking a look... XD
[04:34] <Jucato> CheeseBurgerMan: correct :-D
[04:34] <RogueThunder> it explains so much
[04:35] <RogueThunder> that is
[04:35] <RogueThunder> the v1
[04:35] <barros_> jott_: hmm.. cool...
[04:35] <Zamboulie> can someone help
[04:35] <Zamboulie> i'm installing xgl
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jucato: Wow, I was just making it up off the top of my head. :o
[04:35] <Zamboulie> and nobody is in the xgl channel
[04:35] <barros_> jott_: but, there is a command to reinstall a package?
[04:35] <Jucato> lol
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> RogueThunder: Yay! Hopefully it will work now. :)
[04:35] <RogueThunder> Yeah... doesnt help with that.
[04:35] <jott_> barros_: apt-get reinstall `dpkg-query -S "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/*" | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq`  should work ;)
[04:35] <jott_> did not test it ;)
[04:36] <barros_> jott_: thanks.. I'll check it out!
[04:36] <jott_> feel the power of shell ;p
[04:36] <RogueThunder> Mines the version that ndiswrapper HASNT tested officaly.
[04:36] <RogueThunder> -.-
[04:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> RogueThunder: Test it anway. ;)
[04:36] <RogueThunder> version of the version... er... @.@
[04:36] <barros_> jott_: yeah.. I really loves *nix for this reason!!
[04:36] <RogueThunder> Did, and it doesnt like it :P
[04:37] <jott_> so again replace 2.3 with 2.4.. what ever ;)
[04:37] <barros_> jott_: E: Invalid operation reinstall
[04:37] <charims> anyone able to help me witht htat sound problem?
[04:37] <jott_> oh aptitude has reinstall ..
[04:37] <tj_> now i cant copy the link?
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Why not?
[04:39] <tj_> when i right click all it says regarding copying is copy to<home
[04:39] <Jucato> tj_: Ctrl+C
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dude, open it in Kate, and copy the text in Kate.
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> not the actual file.
[04:40] <tj_> i copied it into pastebin from kate
[04:40] <tj_> then recent posts i right clicked oon and tried to coopy link
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Make a new one with that text.
[04:40] <charims> I guess not...
[04:41] <Zamboulie_> someone help
[04:41] <Agios> charims: uname -r and paste result
[04:41] <Zamboulie_> i'm on kde and i'm installing compiz and it says to install the gnome package
[04:41] <Zamboulie_> if i select the kde one it says break
[04:41] <charims> 2.6.15-26-386
[04:41] <Zamboulie_> should i install the gnome one?
[04:41] <tj_> nope
[04:42] <tj_> no workie no
[04:42] <Agios> there were kernel problems for that chip in 2.6.14
[04:42] <charims> ok, so what does that mean?
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: How is it not working?
[04:43] <charims> are there still problems with it?
[04:43] <tj_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22020
[04:43] <tj_> there we go
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: OK, what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:44] <Agios> still looking, half of these hits are not in english
[04:44] <charims> kk ty, sorry about my impatience
[04:45] <charims> BRB for a bit
[04:45] <tj_> open mmy game and i dont know how?
[04:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> Uh, what game is this?
[04:45] <Jucato> tj_: what's the name of the game again?
[04:45] <tj_> toribashd
[04:45] <tj_> its for linux
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Excuse me while I download and take a look at it.
[04:46] <tj_> 'since ive extracted the files from it and its on my desktop do i just install it now
[04:46] <tj_> ok
[04:47] <Ubuntu_Malay> KO
[04:47] <barros_> jott_: seems that it is working, with aptitude
[04:47] <reddwolf78> i need info on the file formats of what music to download or to get my mp3 songs working
[04:47] <jott_> fine..
[04:47] <jott_> hmm...
[04:47] <Agios> charims: Solved - this was due to using MMCONFIG for PCI access mode. Changing to BIOS worked properly. Perusing the changelogs for the kernel showed MMCONFIG issues on some machines, hence the guess
[04:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: You missed the a line in the readme. Try running "./tbd -h"
[04:48] <Agios> is that applicable to your hardware?
[04:48] <Jucato> reddwolf78: "libxine-extracodecs" in multiverse
[04:48] <jott_> barros_: oh i see you may get trouble as dpkg-query -S sometimes gives multiple items in a line
[04:48] <Jucato> reddwolf78: Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:48] <jott_> barros_: ..sec
[04:49] <barros_> jott_: oh, yes.. I've just seen it..
[04:49] <tj_> i hope cheeseburger went to toribash.com not toribashd.com
[04:49] <jott_> barros_: the magic pipe: dpkg-query -S "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/*" | cut -d: -f1 | sed "s/, /\n/g" | sort | uniq | xargs aptitude reinstall
[04:49] <charims> bak
[04:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Yes, I did.
[04:49] <tj_> lol go to toribash.com
[04:50] <Jucato> couldn't download it...
[04:50] <jott_> hehe man so many nice little tools in one line ;)
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: I did got to toribash.com
[04:50] <tj_> and..........
[04:50] <charims> I'm back Agios, and i don't quite understand your last few posts
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> And downloaded it, and opened the readme, and noticed the one line that you didn't notice.
[04:50] <tj_> wat was that
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> ./tbd -h
[04:50] <tj_> wats that do?
[04:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> Runs the tbd program in the folder.
[04:51] <tj_> so how do i go about opening this
[04:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> at least, the help for it.
[04:51] <barros_> jott_: thanks... I looked at the dpkg output, I got some erros but all packages was reinstalled...
[04:51] <tj_> i got konsole open
[04:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: open a console in the directory of toribashd, and then run './tbd -h'
[04:52] <barros_> jott_: I'll take note about this command line, it can be handy when I do stupid things.. :D
[04:52] <tj_> how do i write this ive never done this b4
[04:52] <barros_> jott_: thanks a lot.. will reboot now to see if all works fine..
[04:52] <jott_> barros_: sure do what ever you like ;) best would be to understand it ;)
[04:52] <barros_> jott_: yeah, I got it..
[04:52] <barros_> cya!!
[04:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: OK, the command is in bold. ./tbd -h
[04:53] <tj_> tj/desktop/toribashd-1.tgz?
[04:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> Can you manage to type those 7 characters including the space?
[04:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> No.
[04:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> The folder, not the .tgz file
[04:53] <charims> Agios , what did you find>?
[04:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's in the folder. Can you navigate to the folder containing the readme?
[04:54] <reddwolf78> thanks
[04:54] <tj_> just write./tbd after  where it automatically says tj@tj-desktop:~$
[04:54] <RogueThunder> *grumbles* Well atleast i know what the differance between my wusb54g and peoples who work well is...
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Can you navigate to the folder containing the readme?
[04:54] <tj_> no i dont know how i suck
[04:55] <tj_> if i click and drag into konsole will it translate it
[04:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> Probably. I've never actually tried that.
[04:56] <tj_> it worked now what
[04:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: When the menu comes up, click on 'cd'
[04:56] <Agios> charims: what app are you using to play mp3's?
[04:56] <tj_> actually it didnt work once i cliked enbter
[04:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Where is the folder on your computer?
[04:56] <charims> I tried MPG123, Kaffeine and Amarok, all either froze or broke the sound system
[04:56] <tj_> desktop
[04:57] <Agios> charims: I'm beginning to think you have a codec problem, not a sound problem
[04:57] <charims> are u sure, i used Automatix and got the codecs
[04:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> Try running cd ~/Desktop/toribashd-1.97
[04:57] <Jucato> charims: are you trying to play MP3's?
[04:58] <charims> yes, but other sounds don't work also
[04:58] <Jucato> even system notifications/sounds?
[04:58] <charims> no system notifications wrok
[04:58] <tj_> wat do i write run cd/desktop/toribashd-1.97
[04:58] <charims> but Gaim makes sounds!
[04:58] <charims> hehe
[04:58] <Jucato> hm...
[04:58] <Agios> no I'm not sure. How would I be sure?
[04:59] <Jucato> can you please check if "libxine-extracodecs" is installed?
[04:59] <charims> kk
[04:59] <Agios> and gstreamer stuff
[04:59] <archangel_> hey if my display is screwed up can I restore a previous 'working' kernal and make it work?
[04:59] <Jucato> no need for the gstreamer stuff, though...
[05:00] <tj_> permission denied
[05:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: to do the cd?
[05:00] <charims> yes, libxine-extracodecs is installed
[05:01] <tj_> tj@tj-desktop:~$ cd '/home/tj/Desktop'tj@tj-desktop:~$ cd '/home/tj/Desktop'
[05:01] <RogueThunder> Well, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...
[05:01] <tj_> denied
[05:01] <tj_> then tj@tj-desktop:~/Desktop$ '/home/tj/Desktop/toribashd-1.97.tgz' denied
[05:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dude.
[05:01] <archangel_> when I boot I hit tab to boot to another version,working kernal, right?
[05:01] <charims> umm, there are a lot of gstreamer things, many are installed
[05:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did you even look at the command I gave you?
[05:01] <archangel_> or escape?
[05:02] <tj_> wat was that
[05:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Try running cd ~/Desktop/toribashd-1.97
[05:03] <tj_> no such file or directory
[05:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Run ls ~/Desktop
[05:03] <charims> Agios many Gstreamer things are installed, with a specific package name i could narow it down
[05:04] <charims> Jucato i do have libxine-extracodecs installed
[05:04] <Jucato> charims: can you check if Amarok is using the xine engine? (Amarok > Settings > Configure Amarok > Engine)
[05:04] <tj_> i press enter it gives me a lil m then says command not found
[05:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> What did you run?
[05:05] <tj_> tj@tj-desktop:~/Desktop$ ^M
[05:05] <tj_> : command not found
[05:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, and what did I ask you to run?
[05:05] <Jucato> ...
[05:05] <charims> At Jucato yes its using Xine
[05:05] <Jucato> this is getting very confusing...
[05:06] <tj_>  cd ~/Desktop/toribashd-1.97
[05:06] <tj_> then just  ~/Desktop
[05:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Run ls ~/Desktop
[05:06] <Jucato> tj_: you forgot the "cd"
[05:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, the commands in bold.
[05:06] <charims> Sometihng NEW
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jucato: No, the folder doesn't exist.
[05:07] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jucato: That's why I'm asking him to run ls ;)
[05:07] <tj_> tj@tj-desktop:~/Desktop$ ^M
[05:07] <tj_> : command not found
[05:07] <tj_> tj@tj-desktop:~/Desktop$
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: The commands are in bold.
[05:07] <Jucato> tj_: "ls"
[05:07] <charims> I tried playing Welcome by Matthias Ettrich, he said "Hello" twice,, both cut off a bit, then no sound and it froze
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Run ls ~/Desktop
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Please, run what I ask you to run. No more, no less. It will help things to go faster.
[05:08] <charims> At Jucato I tried playing Welcome by Matthias Ettrich, he said "Hello" twice,, both cut off a bit, then no sound and it froze
[05:08] <tj_> i coopy and pasted run is desktop right into it
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: No, ^M is not the command I put. ;)
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: In Konsole, try using Shift+Insert to paste.
[05:09] <tj_> no there was a v and command not found
[05:09] <tj_> 'now*
[05:09] <charims> At Agios I tried playing Welcome by Matthias Ettrich in Amarok, he said "Hello" twice,, both cut off a bit, then no sound and it froze..
[05:09] <tj_> shift and insert didnt work either
[05:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Then you didn't have the command in your clipboard.
[05:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: copy the bold command, and then use Shift+Insert to paste it into Konsole.
[05:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Run ls ~/Desktop
[05:10] <tj_>  Run ls ~/Desktop
[05:10] <tj_> i did that
[05:10] <Hawkwind> ls ~/Desktop
[05:10] <Hawkwind> Leave off the run
[05:10] <tj_> oh
[05:11] <RogueThunder> Well, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...
[05:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hawkwind: That's why it's in bold.
[05:11] <Hawkwind> Time to learn your basic linux commands :P
[05:11] <Hawkwind> CheeseBurgerMan: It didn't come across in bold though due to +c being set
[05:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hawkwind: Oh, it shows up as that on my client. ;)
[05:11] <tj_> it came up toribashd-1.97.tgz in red
[05:11] <Hawkwind> CheeseBurgerMan: Right, but not to the channel
[05:12] <tj_> now what
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: OK, run the command in the quotes (but don't include the quotes): 'cd ~/Desktop && tar zxvf toribashd-1.97.tgz'
[05:13] <tj_> even cd
[05:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes.
[05:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: cd changes the directory.
[05:13] <pierreth> is it possible to watch a dvd with VLC?
[05:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: In this case, I'm navigating Konsole to your Desktop, and extracting toribasd-1.97.tgz.
[05:13] <tj_> ok now.....
[05:14] <tj_> its workin so far
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: OK, run the command in the quotes (but don't include the quotes): 'cd toribashd-1.97'
[05:14] <tj_> ok now
[05:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Run the command in the quotes (but don't include the quotes): './tbd -h'
[05:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: That's all the help I can give you, as I've never used the program, and don't really want to.
[05:15] <tj_> but now what
[05:15] <tj_> can i like install it now?
[05:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: It's already installed. All you need to do it extract the archive.
[05:16] <tj_> ohhhhhh i see thanks
[05:16] <tj_> sorry i took up alot of your time but i appreciate it
[05:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: For help on how to use the program, go to irc://irc.quakenet.org/#toribash or http://www.toribash.com/forum/index.php?topic=56.0 or http://www.toribash.com/forum/index.php?topic=44.0
[05:18] <tj_> wait how do i extact the archive
[05:20] <tj_> hello? how do i extract the archive
[05:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: You already did.
[05:21] <tj_> ok which file in the folder do i pick
[05:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> for what?
[05:22] <charims> Jucato are you there
[05:22] <charims> ?
[05:22] <tj_> toribshd-1.97
[05:22] <tj_> choices are
[05:22] <EmergeTW> How do I go about recompiling a program to add support for something (eg amarok to support libvisual) in Kubuntu? ( I am used to portage doing all this for me )
[05:22] <charims> or Agios for that matter
[05:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: What are you trying to do?
[05:23] <EmergeTW> Is there a way to specify flags and have the package manager build from the package source?
[05:23] <tj_> autosave,stance,read me,start all .sh, and tbd
[05:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: What are you trying to do?
[05:23] <tj_> im tryin to play the game now
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: Did you look at the manual or FAQ I linked to?
[05:25] <tj_> i looked at the first one ill check um again
[05:25] <tj_> but they tell you which file plays it
[05:27] <charims> PLEASE help me sum1 with my sound problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22022
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: If they tell you, why arey ou asking me? ;)
[05:28] <tj_> they dont
[05:28] <tj_> they tell me how to play
[05:28] <tj_> i need to no how to get it open to play it
[05:28] <Jucato> charims: sorry about that, went AFK.... unfortunately, I don't know how I could help.
[05:28] <Jucato> you could probably try the forums
[05:28] <Jucato> [ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:29] <charims> haha, tried ubuntu(no replies since yesterday) , i will try kubuntu.. thanks
[05:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> EmergeTW: Looked at apt-build?
[05:29] <EmergeTW> CheeseBurgerMan: not yet :)
[05:30] <tj_> cheeseburg how do i open it to play it?
[05:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> tj_: I don't know. I've never bothered with this game. Try running ./tbd and see what happens
[05:30] <charims> oh, Jucato, btw, did you hear how i got amaraok to play something before it froze
[05:30] <tj_> ok
[05:30] <Jucato> no...
[05:30] <tj_> la8er
[05:30] <digivore> can anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?
[05:30] <Jucato> digivore: Synaptic
[05:31] <arejaytee> Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:31] <arejaytee> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> digivore: apt-get, synaptic, aptitude
[05:31] <digivore> is there a newer one?
[05:31] <Jucato> digivore: what do you mean by "newer"?
[05:31] <digivore> i installed one week ago, but have since reinstalled kubuntu and can't remember it
[05:31] <digivore> but it i liked it
[05:31] <Jucato> KPackage, SMART PM?
[05:31] <digivore> maybe not newer  but someone in the channel was talking about it..
[05:32] <Jucato> probably SMART Package Manager, then
[05:32] <arejaytee> grr why wont updates work i cant get adept or ap-get to install anything
[05:32] <digivore> the website lhad instructions on how to edit the repository server list...
[05:32] <arejaytee> i get the error above when i try to run ap-get update
[05:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> arejaytee: run it with sudo
[05:33] <Jucato> arejaytee: "sudo apt-get update"
[05:33] <arejaytee> alreayd ran sudo so its remembering my pass
[05:33] <Jucato> digivore: which website?
[05:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> arejaytee: Are you running adept, or another package manager?
[05:33] <Jucato> arejaytee: but you still need to include "sudo" even if it remembered your password
[05:33] <junkphreak> sounds like another one is open
[05:34] <RogueThunder> hey cheeseurger, something i bet you know, whats the command to get your kernel verison, im just double checking
[05:34] <digivore> jucato: the website for the program, can't remember the name of it.
[05:34] <junkphreak> uname -a
[05:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> RogueThunder: uname -r
[05:34] <arejaytee> same error as before
[05:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> -a also works. ;)
[05:34] <RogueThunder> yayz ^.^
[05:34] <junkphreak> :}
[05:34] <RogueThunder> exactly what methoughts it was
[05:34] <Jucato> hm.. the only GUI package managers I know of are Adept, Synaptic, KPackage, Kynaptic, and SMART
[05:34] <RogueThunder> the kernel that is
[05:34] <RogueThunder> lol
[05:35] <Jucato> arejaytee: try running "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:35] <Jucato> arejaytee: and close Adept if it's open
[05:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> arejaytee: Is another package manager open?
[05:35] <digivore> those don't sound familiar, but i'll try them
[05:35] <charims> Hey, Jucato Did you hear aobut how i got amarok to play for a second before it froze?
[05:35] <digivore> thanks
[05:35] <junkphreak> need to find the scriot for sysinfo agian
[05:35] <Jucato> charims: nope. sorry
[05:35] <junkphreak> script
[05:35] <junkphreak> use to have it while back
[05:36] <Jucato> lol
[05:36] <junkphreak> hey Hawkwind !
[05:36] <junkphreak> haha
[05:36] <Hawkwind> junkphreak: How you been d00d ?
[05:36] <arejaytee> hrmmm nope
[05:36] <junkphreak> fine
[05:36] <junkphreak> just playing on the laptop
[05:36] <arejaytee> but ive just changed the sources.list again and now its atleast trying
[05:36] <Jucato> junkphreak: /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/sysinfo <----???
[05:36] <charims> At jucato I tried playing Welcome by Matthias Ettrich in Amarok, he said "Hello" twice,, both cut off a bit, then no sound and it froze..
[05:37] <Hawkwind> junkphreak: Kewl.  I left the world of Mandriva about 2 months ago :P
[05:37] <arejaytee> stoopid thing is it wont do it through apt-get but i can browse the same address in konqeuror
[05:37] <Hawkwind> junkphreak: After 4 1/2 years and nearly 3 years of being an op of the channel
[05:37] <junkphreak> me too it pissed me off
[05:37] <verbose> anyone know a way in bash to generate the numbers 1 through 99
[05:37] <verbose> i'm trying to save myself some typing
[05:37] <junkphreak> im liking this kubuntu alot
[05:38] <Jucato> arejaytee: what mirrors/servers are you using in your sources.list?
[05:38] <Hawkwind> verbose: Ask the guys in #Bash ?
[05:38] <Jucato> Hawkwind: #Bash or #bash?
[05:38] <charims> jucato: I tried playing Welcome by Matthias Ettrich in Amarok, he said "Hello" twice,, both cut off a bit, then no sound and it froze..
[05:38] <junkphreak> i tried unbuntu but like kde to much
[05:38] <Hawkwind> junkphreak: Same here.  I'll never go back.  Though I do still have SoS which is the largest 3rd party rpm repo for Mandriva.  Gets over 2 million hits a month
[05:38] <Hawkwind> junkphreak: Both the same, IRC channels aren't case sensitive
[05:38] <Jucato> charims: I heard you.. but sorry I have no idea... :-(
[05:39] <RogueThunder> *shudders early 8.5mm matashita drives are evil.
[05:39] <charims> ok :) ty anyways
[05:39] <Jucato> Hawkwind: wonder what would happen if you suddenly dropped that...
[05:39] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Heh, won't happen :P
[05:39] <Jucato> hehe
[05:39] <InuDuelist> Mmm.
[05:39] <Jucato> I'll probably try out Mandriva again... sometime...
[05:39] <InuDuelist> Back, all.
[05:39] <Hawkwind> Jucato: But I'm expanding it.  I do have an E17 Ubuntu repo there too now and will be expanding it even more soon enough
[05:39] <InuDuelist> Hey, Jucato's here.
[05:40] <Jucato> Hawkwind: Mandriva's #5 in DistroWatch... imagine that....
[05:40] <Jucato> hi InuDuelist!
[05:40] <junkphreak> well just about time for bed to bad i cant hit the irc at work i needa jump box  "}
[05:40] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yep.  I remember when it was #1
[05:40] <charims> Ok everyone, i am going to bed, goodnight, and thankyou all for your help
[05:40] <InuDuelist> Aw.
[05:41] <Jucato> good night charims! hope your problem would be solved in the morning
[05:41] <InuDuelist> intelikey isn't here.
[05:41] <RogueThunder> *chuckles* The old mandrake days.
[05:41] <charims> me too ;)
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Wasn't all that long ago.  It dropped quickly from #1 to #3 then to #4 and now 5
[05:41] <InuDuelist> Good night, charims.
[05:41] <RogueThunder> *pets his poor 8.2 mandrake disks, may they rip*
[05:41] <junkphreak> need to find a site that i can hit this web irc :}
[05:41] <charims> ill probably be back tomorrw ;) hehe
[05:41] <Jucato> Hawkwind: didn't it go below #5 or #10 before going back up to #5?
[05:41] <Hawkwind> InuDuelist: We don't need him :P
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Not that I know of.  I think 5 possibly 6 is the lowest I've ever seen it.  I keep a close eye on it since SoS is linked on distrowatch.com too :P
[05:42] <Jucato> oh
[05:42] <Jucato> Mandriva: the Linux distro with a sharp-beak scary penguin...
[05:42] <Jucato> :-D
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Jucato: SoS is big.....I've put a lot of work into it.  rpm.pbone.net mirrors all of my files
[05:43] <InuDuelist> Mm.
[05:43] <Hawkwind> As do other sites and it's linked on thousands and thousands of sites across the internet.
[05:43] <InuDuelist> Hawkwind: I wanted to tell him that I finished my Amarok library.
[05:43] <InuDuelist> It took me hours, but I did it.
[05:43] <InuDuelist> Even the albums.
[05:43] <InuDuelist> Those took the majority of the work.
[05:44] <Jucato> Amarok library???
[05:44] <InuDuelist> All I have left is lyrics.
[05:44] <InuDuelist> Yes.
[05:44] <InuDuelist> I was transfering my songs from Windows to Linux.
[05:44] <InuDuelist> then I imported them.
[05:44] <Jucato> aah
[05:44] <InuDuelist> Then I named them accordingly.
[05:44] <Jucato> Amarok collection...
[05:44] <InuDuelist> Then I fixed the albums.
[05:44] <junkphreak> ok im out later hawkwind!
[05:44] <InuDuelist> It's known as Library. Amarok weirded out on that one.
[05:45] <Jucato> iTunes library, Amarok collections....
[05:45] <Hawkwind> junkphreak: Later d00d, good to see ya
[05:45] <driz> hey word
[05:45] <driz> nice name
[05:45] <driz> or SN
[05:45] <word> hey
[05:46] <word> thanks
[05:46] <word> yah i use it on a lot of things...sometimes it's taken so i use wordlet
[05:46] <word> luckily i got it on freenode before anyone else mwahaha
[05:46] <Jucato> I wonder how many times I'll be notified if I changed my nick to "a" or "i"?
[05:46] <InuDuelist> Jucato, it's known as Library everywhere else.
[05:47] <Jucato> so Amarok is unique...
[05:47] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Or 'The'
[05:47] <Jucato> Hawkwind: yeah
[05:47] <driz> I tried to get my name but for some reason I can't
[05:47] <driz> where do i register it
[05:47] <driz> ?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> !register > driz
[05:48] <Jucato> but tell me InuDuelist, which is more... logical (for lack of a better term...) ? A "library" of songs/music/mp3, or a "collection" of songs/music/mp3?
[05:49] <ubuntu> this live cd is pretty cool
[05:49] <InuDuelist> Jucato: Library.
[05:49] <Jucato> really?
[05:49] <driz> ubuntu install
[05:49] <InuDuelist> ubuntu: Try installing it. :P
[05:49] <driz> or dualboot
[05:49] <visita> Hi
[05:49] <visita> I'm new
[05:49] <ubuntu> i'm running slackware primarily, just wanted to see what all the fuss was about
[05:49] <RogueThunder> ugh... whats the create folder command line?
[05:49] <Jucato> err... gotta go for now...
[05:49] <visita> and my english is not well
[05:49] <driz> ooouch visita so close to bista
[05:50] <ubuntu> though it's pretty nice...
[05:50] <Hawkwind> RogueThunder: mkdir
[05:50] <driz> vista*
[05:50] <visita> somebody talk to spanish
[05:50] <visita> ??
[05:50] <Hawkwind> !es
[05:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:50] <visita> thanks
[05:50] <Hawkwind> visita: You're welcome
[05:50] <Hawkwind> Or as they say in your language, denada :P
[05:51] <visita> perharps is god stay here for my english I think
[05:51] <visita> but is my first time in KDE
[05:52] <visita> I have KDE and GNOME
[05:52] <Hawkwind> visita: You can be in both channels if you want, or more than 2 even
[05:52] <visita> 0k
[05:52] <visita> I'm lost
[05:52] <arejaytee> hrmm how do i set it so i can just drag windows onto other desktops?
[05:52] <arejaytee> not letting me do it now
[05:53] <visita> Ubuntu
[05:53] <visita> Linux
[05:53] <visita> 0k
[05:54] <InuDuelist> It sucks being a realist.
[05:54] <InuDuelist> Nobody likes you.
[05:54] <visita> I will go to ubuntu-es bye and thanks for all
[05:54] <InuDuelist> Not only that, but everyone always has to try to act like they're right, and you're wrong.
[05:54] <InuDuelist> Even though they're definitely the wrong ones.
[05:55] <pierreth> how can i play a dvd?
[05:55] <InuDuelist> Drive to the nearest Texico station.
[05:56] <InuDuelist> Stick it in the DVD drive, maybe.
[05:56] <RogueThunder> lol
[05:56] <RogueThunder> now now
[05:56] <pierreth> ok, then...
[05:56] <RogueThunder> sometimes linux can be a bit more arugmentive than that.
[05:56] <Hawkwind> !dvd
[05:56] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:56] <RogueThunder> :P
[05:56] <pierreth> because no application wants to play the dvd
[05:57] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Read what ubotu just said
[05:57] <pierreth> but i already installed everything!
[05:57] <visita> If I close this program. I will be not conected????
[05:59] <pierreth> ubotu: the first url does not work
[05:59] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[06:01] <RogueThunder> ubotu is just a bot
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is just a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <RogueThunder> XD
[06:01] <RogueThunder> it isnta  perosn
[06:01] <RogueThunder> it responds to a few set keywords
[06:03] <reddwolf78> can i get some one to help find the respitories for alsaplayer or at lest tell me were i can find them
[06:07] <Usager> hello
[06:07] <arejaytee> damnit know its stop working again
[06:07] <arejaytee> sits at waiting for headers when trying to download updates
[06:08] <John-Z> Hey guys
[06:08] <John-Z> I'm trying to install bitlbee using apt-get and its asking for the cdrom.
[06:08] <MarielaQu> hello everyone
[06:08] <MarielaQu> I need help with my netwroking cards
[06:08] <John-Z> Apparently the 6.06 cd I burned isnt labeled exactly the same as the one I used to install, so it doesnt like it.
[06:08] <John-Z> How can I get around this?
[06:09] <RogueThunder> Well, guess ill ask again... anyone comptietent with troubleshooting wireless cards around? i could use some help...
[06:09] <MarielaQu> I've unplugged my wireless card, Kubuntu didn't find any card, but once I replugged it, it still didn't find anything
[06:09] <arejaytee> uncomment the line out of etc/apt/sources.list and it will use the net
[06:09] <RogueThunder> heh
[06:09] <RogueThunder> ive been hanging out for a few hours trying to get wlan help...
[06:11] <reddwolf78> Can some please help me out i'm trying to find the respitories for a alsaplayer and i'm not sure how to find them i know this is not a package that is already in linux but i'm working on a compile and need the respitories to finish up?
[06:11] <arejaytee> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:11] <arejaytee> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:12] <arejaytee> when tyring to run apt-get update, but no managers are open and niether is sources.list
[06:17] <digivore> What is the file that the Repository lists are stored in?
[06:17] <fdoving> digivore: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:17] <digivore> thankx
[06:18] <fdoving> arejaytee: run this command from konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock'
[06:18] <fdoving> reddwolf78: try to find alsaplayer with the help of http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:18] <arejaytee> thanks fdoving it works if i leave it for awhile
[06:18] <digivore> is thre a program that will install things like google earth and Nvidia Drivers?
[06:19] <fdoving> !automatix
[06:19] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:19] <fdoving> !easyubuntu
[06:19] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:19] <arejaytee> but now its not connecting to the us.archive starting to shit me lol
[06:19] <reddwolf78> i have the alsaplayer package that i downloaded and i need the respitories to go with it
[06:19] <fdoving> digivore: both are marked with 'Use at own risk'.
[06:20] <arejaytee> dumb question how i mov forward a folder in terminal
[06:20] <arejaytee> dir
[06:20] <arejaytee> lol wrong window
[06:21] <fdoving> reddwolf78: like this?: deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com dapper universe
[06:21] <InuDuelist> Gr.
[06:21] <RogueThunder> i ask one last time, is there anyone fermilar with troubleshooting wlan cards preticulary prism54 ones around that might be willing to please help me...
[06:21] <InuDuelist> Sleep is almost upon me, and such.
[06:21] <fdoving> arejaytee: move a folder? 'mv oldpos new/pos/'
[06:21] <InuDuelist> familiar*
[06:21] <arejaytee> move into :?
[06:22] <fdoving> RogueThunder: sorry, no time, have to go to work.
[06:22] <RogueThunder> ah
[06:22] <RogueThunder> would there be a time you are?
[06:22] <fdoving> arejaytee: depends on where you wan tto move it. 'mv old new'
[06:22] <RogueThunder> so i can... show up when soemone actualy has a clue
[06:22] <digivore> fdoving:  thanks,   will automatix really mess things up?
[06:22] <arejaytee> ie cd in dos lol
[06:22] <arejaytee> cd desktop
[06:22] <fdoving> RogueThunder: i recommend comming back in ~8-10 hours.
[06:23] <Netslayer> when i goto desktop configuration and drag past 1 desktop (ie to 4), click save it wont do anything and wont save my settings
[06:23] <Netslayer> any ideas?
[06:23] <reddwolf78> i still a littile confused
[06:23] <RogueThunder> 6amish my time... right...
[06:23] <fdoving> digivore: probably not, but it can, as it is not very failureproof designed.
[06:23] <RogueThunder> well! shal do
[06:23] <reddwolf78> how do i know i have the right one then
[06:23] <RogueThunder> lol
[06:23] <Zamboulie> can someone help me with xgl?
[06:24] <fdoving> Zamboulie: i recommend #ubuntu-xgl to meet the xgl-wizards.
[06:24] <fdoving> now i really have to go to work. bye all.
[06:24] <Zamboulie> there's nobody in there
[06:24] <fdoving> ok, then wait.
[06:24] <fdoving> i'm not here either.
[06:24] <Zamboulie> oh wait
[06:24] <fdoving> i'm on my way to work.
[06:24] <Zamboulie> k thx
[06:24] <fdoving> bye.
[06:25] <InuDuelist> Zeeky Boogy Doog.
[06:25] <poseidon> How can I get a scanner working?
[06:25] <InuDuelist> Feh, I can't compile again.
[06:25] <poseidon> It's an HP all-in-one
[06:26] <InuDuelist> What's with (K)Ubuntu always giving me this problem?
[06:29] <unix_infidel> InuDuelist: what do you mean yo ucant compile.
[06:29] <InuDuelist> unix_infidel: During configuration, it keeps giving me an error about my C Compiler not working.
[06:30] <unix_infidel> InuDuelist: pastebin the erorr.
[06:30] <unix_infidel> error*
[06:30] <intelikey> who,dat
[06:31] <unix_infidel> who dat foo?
[06:31] <InuDuelist> "pastebin"?
[06:31] <unix_infidel> !pastebin
[06:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:31] <intelikey> i can't find a game worth playing in the repos...
[06:32] <intelikey> don't want a 3d killing spree
[06:32] <InuDuelist> Why would I waste my time with that?
[06:32] <InuDuelist> It's two lines.
[06:32] <InuDuelist> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[06:32] <InuDuelist> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:32] <intelikey> anything trun based that is worth looking at ?
[06:32] <InuDuelist> intelikey!
[06:33] <intelikey> InuDuelist install  build-essential
[06:33] <intelikey> !b-e
[06:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:34] <InuDuelist> ...
[06:34] <InuDuelist> How did I forget to install that?
[06:34] <intelikey> beets me.
[06:34] <InuDuelist> Remind me never to reinstall Linux.
[06:34] <InuDuelist> Ever.
[06:34] <intelikey> or restart it.
[06:34] <unix_infidel> Yea, Linux sucks, computers suck.
[06:35] <intelikey> you wish
[06:35] <Hawkwind> Yet another troll!
[06:35] <Hawkwind> Hah
[06:35] <intelikey> Hawkwind i am not!
[06:35] <intelikey> :)
[06:36] <Hawkwind> Hah
[06:36] <InuDuelist> Remind me never to reinstall or restart Linux.
[06:36] <InuDuelist> ...
[06:36] <InuDuelist> Remind me, already.
[06:37] <InuDuelist> Fine then.
[06:37] <intelikey> InuDuelist i think you should reload twice a week whether it needs it or not...
[06:37] <arejaytee> where is konqueror installed to by default?
[06:38] <intelikey>  /usr*
[06:38] <InuDuelist> intelikey, don't worry.
[06:38] <InuDuelist> I do.
[06:38] <InuDuelist> Usually.
[06:38] <intelikey> lol
[06:38] <InuDuelist> I haven't rebooted since...
[06:38] <InuDuelist> I logged in here.
[06:38] <InuDuelist> Let's see how long ago that was.
[06:38] <intelikey> i have done that.
[06:38] <InuDuelist> [21:38:36]  [Whois]  InuDuelist has been online since 08/27/2006 05:01:15 PM.
[06:39] <InuDuelist> Wow.
[06:39] <InuDuelist> It's only been two days.
[06:39] <InuDuelist> Now I know why my Windows dies monthly.
[06:39] <intelikey> arejaytee  do dpkg -L konqueror
[06:40] <arejaytee> thanks intelikey
[06:41] <InuDuelist> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2009420,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594
[06:41] <intelikey> arejaytee if you are only looking for the binarry   which konqueror
[06:42] <InuDuelist> Gosh, it's one package after another.
[06:43] <arejaytee> trying to find plugins dir so i can install flash
[06:43] <InuDuelist> Uh oh...
[06:43] <InuDuelist> "Users who plan to upgrade their PC with more system memory could see some steep price increases over the next few weeks. The DRAMExchange, which monitors semiconductor spot trading prices, said that DDR prices have not only stabilized, but memory chips cost up to 20% more than earlier this year."
[06:43] <intelikey> some where in /usr/share i'd guess.
[06:43] <InuDuelist> http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/29/ddr_memory_price_trends/
[06:44] <unix_infidel> InuDuelist: so a good time to buy cheap dimms over the weekend :P
[06:44] <intelikey> i don't plan on buying any hardware.   ever.
[06:45] <unix_infidel> intelikey: so a good time to stock up on paper and pens?
[06:45] <ironfroggy> anyone know of an IRC client that has a nice interface (not console) but actually uses irssi or something internally?
[06:46] <intelikey> ironfroggy xchat is about as close as you get to that
[06:46] <intelikey> short answer  no.
[06:46] <unix_infidel> ironfroggy: there's konversation which is really popular. or you can try xchat which is also great.
[06:46] <unix_infidel> irssi has been my client of choice for the past 6 months.
[06:47] <InuDuelist> unix_infidel: If only I wasn't poor on money this month.
[06:47] <ironfroggy> im very specifically looking for a GUI-based IRC client which is actually looking at a terminal of irssi or some other console based client and basically wrapping it in a nice GUI.
[06:47] <InuDuelist> ironfroggy: I recommend Konversation.
[06:47] <InuDuelist> Closest thing to mIRC you can get.
[06:47] <InuDuelist> Hm.
[06:47] <intelikey> short answer  no.
[06:48] <ironfroggy> i want to find such a thing to adapt for a project, rather than start from scratch.
[06:48] <intelikey> too bad
[06:48] <unix_infidel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IRC_clients
[06:48] <ironfroggy> the end result is that i want the console client to run nohup on my server, and for the client to ssh in and connect to it via screen, so that i can use a nice irc client on my laptop without loosing the connection when it sleeps.
[06:49] <ironfroggy> and then move to the desktop without loosing the connection either.
[06:49] <unix_infidel> ironfroggy: i'm not quite sure why irssi cant handle what you want.
[06:49] <unix_infidel> other than the gui end.
[06:50] <intelikey> or bx or epic for that matter
[06:50] <ironfroggy> the gui end is the piece thats missing from just running irssi on a remote box, which i already do.
[06:50] <intelikey> bx has a gui
[06:50] <unix_infidel> ironfroggy: check out the link i posted, start there..
[06:50] <ironfroggy> but i want a nice gui instead of chatting through ssh and screen
[06:50] <intelikey> you wouldn't like it though
[06:51] <ironfroggy> what is bx? just another kde/gnome irc client?
[06:51] <unix_infidel> i think he means bitchx
[06:52] <ironfroggy> ah. right. i could use it just the same as irssi, but it doesnt change the root of the problem.
[06:52] <intelikey> gui's are over rated
[06:52] <intelikey> that's the root of the problem
[06:52] <intelikey> :)
[06:53] <ironfroggy> lets not get into that debate.
[06:54] <InuDuelist> intelikey, GUIs are good.
[06:54] <InuDuelist> For most people.
[06:54] <InuDuelist> I for one, would never use Linux if it only offered me a terminal.
[06:55] <unix_infidel> InuDuelist: lol, some people just use X to spawn $TERMs
[06:55] <CVirus> yet another g33k
[06:55] <InuDuelist> What you said just flew across my mind.
[06:56] <unix_infidel> yea, that happens when i'm in #python :P
[06:56] <intelikey> and over rated when it comes to irc   what do you get with a gui?   a fanvy frame around the scrolling text !!!  big woopeedoo...  same text. fonts are scalable without a gui.... so  like i said,  gui's are over rated as far as irc goes    and in general imo.
[06:57] <CVirus> intelikey: woah .. irc'ing is all what you do on this machine !
[06:57] <ironfroggy> people who keep saying a gui is overrated dont get the bigger picture or the future that isnt possible with text.
[06:57] <CVirus> ironfroggy: totally agreed
[06:57] <intelikey> CVirus no. is it all you do ?
[06:57] <unix_infidel> Like i said, you've gotten your suggestions, anyone who knows what you're looking for has given their two cents.
[06:57] <CVirus> intelikey: nah
[06:57] <unix_infidel> check the wikipedia link for a comprehensive list.  do your worst there.
[06:58] <zonk> Hello, I have a problem with installing the 6.06.1 alternate cd for i386. It always crashes during the packet installation when trying to configure xserver.org or -org or whatever. Anyone any idea?
[06:58] <InuDuelist> Mmm.
[06:58] <InuDuelist> intelikey: I forgot to mention.
[06:58] <InuDuelist> I finally finished my Library.
[06:58] <intelikey> but the subject at hand was  irc clients and the gui   so i was trying not to break out of topic there.
[06:58] <InuDuelist> Actually, I still have to get lyrics, but I'm pretty much done.
[06:58] <InuDuelist> And I'm off to sleep.
[06:59] <InuDuelist> Good night, all.
[06:59] <intelikey> InuDuelist glad for ya.
[06:59] <intelikey> :)
[06:59] <InuDuelist> Mmm.
[06:59] <InuDuelist> Sleepy time.
[06:59] <InuDuelist> G
[06:59] <InuDuelist> ...
[06:59] <InuDuelist> G'night.
[06:59] <intelikey> shalom
[07:00] <CVirus> zonk: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core
[07:00] <intelikey> probably configures x before installing grub   if i had to guess.....
[07:01] <intelikey> that's backwards to what it should be,  just for this very reason.
[07:01] <zonk> well, I guess I would need a console to type that in which seems to not come up during the installation
[07:02] <denver1> can anyone tell me howto make a bootable cd  using Smart Boot Manager?
[07:02] <CVirus> zonk: sorry ... I missunderstood your question ..
[07:02] <intelikey> zonk you say 'it crashes'  can you define that for us ?
[07:02] <CVirus> the akternate CD is crashing 0.o !
[07:02] <zonk> crashes means screen goes blank and comes back with random pattern while computer stops responding
[07:03] <denver1> can anyone tell me howto make a bootable cd  using Smart Boot Manager?
[07:04] <intelikey> have you tried [alt] +[SysRQ] +r   and then [alt] +[ctrl] +[f#]      # being any of 1-4   to see if it is still responding just not displaying ?
[07:05] <intelikey> zonk ^
[07:05] <dennisharrison> hello everyone
[07:05] <intelikey> that would tell you if the kernel is still doing it's thing  or if it's truely 'stopped responding' zonk
[07:06] <zonk> nope, haven't tried. will try again and see what happens
[07:07] <dennisharrison> I have a very confusing problem with kernel updating and acpi on an ATI amd 64 chipset, anyone know offhand what im talking about?
[07:07] <zonk> any idea what I then could do, if it still works?
[07:07] <intelikey> zonk also you might try server-expert at the install boot prompt  there by circumventing the problem until after the primary installation.
[07:08] <dennisharrison> whats his problem?
[07:09] <zonk> server-expert means the server installation?
[07:09] <intelikey> let it install just the base system and then when you have booted into the installed system do an sudo apt-get *buntu-desktop   to get the rest of the install
[07:09] <intelikey> zonk yes server install  is gui'less
[07:09] <zonk> will try, thanks
[07:10] <intelikey> therefore it wont crash on configuring x  cause x wont be installed yet.
[07:11] <intelikey> zonk what vidio card do you have btw ?
[07:11] <intelikey> and monitor ?
[07:12] <intelikey> cause it's the combonation of the two most likely.   could be just the card....
[07:12] <dennisharrison> is his system locking at the configuring x?
[07:13] <intelikey> well he said it crashes    then defined as black screen with blotches of cycodelic paterns.
[07:13] <zonk> video is onboard intel 82845g/gl... graphics controller and monitor is some dell trinitron
[07:13] <intelikey> k ty.
[07:13] <dennisharrison> huh
[07:13] <dennisharrison> yeah thats weird
[07:13] <dennisharrison> when he is trying to load live cd?
[07:14] <zonk> well not quite psycodelic, just blue with two grey little squares mainly
[07:14] <intelikey> dennisharrison i'v seen it several times.   usually disabling vesa fixes it.
[07:14] <dennisharrison> what happens if you xrandr -s 640x480 ?
[07:14] <zonk> nope, almost half way through the installation with the alternate cd
[07:14] <dennisharrison> ok got ya
[07:14] <dennisharrison> ok, just curious
[07:14] <dennisharrison> because I had some funky video problems recently
[07:15] <dennisharrison> just wondering if he can get into console when it happens
[07:15] <intelikey> i mentioned that first.  hope he took notes.
[07:15] <zonk> ok, I will try the other stuff now, have  to reboot for that, see you after that
[07:16] <dennisharrison> hehe
[07:16] <dennisharrison> no doubt
[07:17] <dennisharrison> oh, yeah the reason I came in here
[07:17] <dennisharrison> uhmm ..
[07:17] <dennisharrison> yeah thats right
[07:17] <dennisharrison> I want to align text to path
[07:17] <dennisharrison> and sad to say most of my graphic experience is with fireworks on windows and mac
[07:18] <dennisharrison> so, whats a good simple, powerful vector art program for *ubuntu?
[07:18] <intelikey> idk.
[07:20] <dennisharrison> me neither ;p
[07:20] <intelikey> i'm the guy that installs kde gnome blackbox fluxbox icewm fvwm xfce twm and then never starts X    :)
[07:20] <dennisharrison> hehe
[07:20] <dennisharrison> but I need to make some logo's
[07:20] <dennisharrison> and I don't wanna use windows
[07:20] <dennisharrison> I tried gimp .. but its scary ;p
[07:20] <dennisharrison> so many freakin buttons I don't know what they are
[07:21] <intelikey> xpaint or kpaint  or something like that ?
[07:21] <dennisharrison> ill try
[07:23] <intelikey> oo might be your answer...   like i said  i don't know   i'm just fishing.
[07:25] <Kevin> hey can anyone point in the direction it get my kernal to 1000mhz
[07:25] <intelikey> macabrow looks like a troll setting up to script us   ;/
[07:25] <dennisharrison> Kevin, What the hell?
[07:26] <Kevin> no its for my srcds server :(
[07:26] <dennisharrison> sorry but I don't know what you're talking about Kevin
[07:27] <Kevin> counter strike
[07:27] <Kevin> i run a server for the game and it say this
[07:27] <Kevin> You need to do a custom (re)compile of the linux kernel in order to change kernel interruptability / timer.
[07:27] <romeo> i need help getting media codecs
[07:28] <dennisharrison> I don't know Kevin
[07:28] <dennisharrison> you might want to try the gentoo forums
[07:28] <dennisharrison> those guys compile their kernels all the time
[07:28] <Kevin> hmm well thanks anyways
[07:28] <dennisharrison> up to date on all the build options
[07:28] <dennisharrison> sorry
[07:29] <Kevin> you would know were i could locat the file param.h
[07:29] <intelikey> Kevin iirc the default is 250  and yes i have built a 1000 kernel   grab the source and compile it.   the option is there in  make menuconfig
[07:29] <Kevin> oh ok
[07:30] <Kevin> sorry how do i get to menuconfig?
[07:30] <romeo> i tried instaling easyubuntu but i m a dweeb i keep getting errors
[07:30] <dennisharrison> yeah use automatix instead romeo
[07:30] <romeo> look i m new soory automatic?
[07:31] <intelikey> Kevin you dl the source tarball  unpack it  cd into the source dir that the tarball makes when it unpacks  and  run      make menuconfig    in that dir.
[07:31] <romeo> automatitix
[07:31] <romeo> hmm
[07:31] <dennisharrison> getautomatix.com
[07:31] <romeo> ok
[07:32] <romeo> brb i m going to have a look at it
[07:32] <intelikey> you get a nice curses based menu configuration system for the kernel and you can then spend the next three days configuring and compiling the thing  :)
[07:33] <intelikey> have fun.
[07:33] <Kevin> Well that sounds like to much work lol
[07:33] <intelikey> it is.  but if you want a 1000 horse power kernel that's how you get it.
[07:34] <romeo> can you give me a link please i can t seem to find it with google
[07:34] <Kevin> I would like to do it but, at the same time I will endup messing it all up
[07:34] <intelikey> !automatix
[07:34] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:35] <ke> Although people recommend not using such scripts, try easyubuntu (or something) instead
[07:35] <ke> intelikey
[07:35] <intelikey> Kevin confession.  i had to rebuild three times before i got it woeking right.
[07:36] <intelikey> ke not my baby
[07:36] <Kevin> yeah, considing to my knowlage is low on linux I dont think i will attempt it
[07:36] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:37] <intelikey> Kevin well it's not likely you'll get the ubuntu team to build a special kernel for you...
[07:38] <Kevin> They should come out with a kernel for ppl that want that, it would be much easyer
[07:38] <intelikey> lol
[07:38] <Kevin> like windows home and windows pro
[07:38] <Kevin> ubuntu home, ubuntu pro
[07:38] <kutan> Mmmmm formattylicious.
[07:38] <intelikey> Kevin isn't that ubuntu and debian you are describing ???
[07:39] <ubuntu> hola necesito ayuda
[07:39] <Kevin> Lol i guess so
[07:39] <romeo> ok weel evryones seems asleep in auto no anwers
[07:39] <ubuntu> Hi, i-m from mexico i need help of kubuntu
[07:39] <intelikey> !easyubuntu
[07:39] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:40] <intelikey> romeo ^
[07:40] <intelikey> try that one ?
[07:40] <dennisharrison> he said he tried that one and it wouldnt work
[07:40] <Kevin> i have never heard of easyubuntu
[07:40] <dennisharrison> try http://www.google.com/linux and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ ? ;p
[07:40] <ubuntu> who speak spanish
[07:41] <intelikey> !es
[07:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:41] <dennisharrison> intelikey, hehe
[07:41] <ubuntu> no, eske necesito saber algo, tu puedes ayudarme
[07:41] <dennisharrison> im gonna have to remember that one
[07:41] <dennisharrison> !es
[07:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:42] <intelikey> dennisharrison there are factoids on most languages.
[07:42] <intelikey> !it
[07:42] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:42] <intelikey> !de
[07:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:42] <intelikey> !ja
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ja - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <mshade> !sp
[07:42] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[07:42] <dennisharrison> col
[07:42] <Jucato> ????
[07:42] <mshade> !es
[07:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:43] <dennisharrison> hehe sp
[07:43] <dennisharrison> well thats a neat feature
[07:43] <Kevin> !dk
[07:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[07:43] <intelikey> !el
[07:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr   
[07:43] <intelikey> :)
[07:44] <Kevin> !gf
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <Kevin> hmm
[07:44] <mshade> !linux
[07:44] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[07:44] <mshade> !linus
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <Lynoure> !msg-the-bot
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msg-the-bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <Kevin> So is there any new cool updates comming out??
[07:45] <mshade> !gcc
[07:45] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:45] <Lynoure> Anyway the bot will tell you all those things in a message, too
[07:45] <mshade> !msg
[07:45] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[07:46] <dennisharrison> ok, anyone here do vector graphics ?
[07:46] <intelikey> Kevin i'm about to update my person.    mount -o remount,dream-only /dev/brain /pillow.
[07:46] <Jucato> it goes like !<query> > nick, like !mp3 > Jucato
[07:46] <Kevin> LOL
[07:46] <dennisharrison> I want to find a program that lets me align text to path and is maybe a little more simple then gimp
[07:47] <Lynoure> Jucato: /msg ubotu foobar   also works
[07:47] <intelikey> so till the next time we chat.   Shalom Aleichem!
[07:48] <Jucato> yep yep Lynoure!
[08:05] <zonk> there we go, installed the server and then tried to get the desktop with sudo apt-get "buntu-desktop
[08:05] <zonk> then nothing really happened again, any idea what to do?
[08:30] <supernix> well so much for uptime some drunk hit a pole
[08:30] <kutan> ...How do I use WINE?
[08:32] <kutan> Anyone?
[08:33] <unix_infidel> !wine
[08:33] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:34] <kutan> Ah thanks, I should use ubotu more often >_>
[08:35] <Tm_T> kutan: or google ;)
[08:35] <kutan> ...That too...
[08:35] <Tm_T> hehe
[08:42] <mx> hello?
[08:42] <mx> i turned the date back to be on time with my location, and now sudo is bitching about timestamps
[08:45] <mx> be there a workaround?
[08:46] <Lynoure> mx: yes
[08:46] <mx> how, may i ask?
[08:46] <Lynoure> mx: man sudo  and seargh for timestamps
[08:46] <mx> alright
[08:47] <Lynoure> if you cannot find it, ask again and I'll malk you through it
[08:47] <kutan> argh
[08:48] <kutan> I'm trying to copy files from a DVD I burned to my harddrive... it got to 15% and now it says "stalled"
[08:48] <mx> guess it isn't idiotic
[08:48] <kutan> It won't unstall -_-
[08:49] <mx> disc scratch? just guessing
[08:49] <Lynoure> mx: Not really, quite sensible
[08:49] <kutan> I just burned it not even an hour ago, cleaner than a... can't think of anything but it's clean and completely unscathed
[08:49] <Lynoure> kutan: There is an option for verifying the disk
[08:50] <Lynoure> kutan: If I remember right it's right in the install menu
[08:51] <DHGE> kutan: look at your logs in /var/log
[08:51] <kutan> It's telling me it can't read some of the files
[08:51] <kutan> and I can't burn the disk again because I was trying to get the stuff I wanted before I formatted to get rid of Windows
[08:51] <kutan> and I formatted already..
[08:52] <DHGE> then ...
[08:52] <kutan> I guess... I'm screwed
[08:53] <DHGE> some options: try another drive - let yours cool down (next day, moon) - read as root
[09:00] <feet> hi. i just installed kubuntu-desktop. now i want to get ubuntu-desktop and everything associated with it. but when i do that, only the virtual package goes, nothing else. how can i get rid of GNOME now that ive got kubuntu?
[09:00] <feet> thanks
[09:00] <scabootssca> ok how do i run a file from command line? i havnt used linux in a while and i cant remember.
[09:00] <mx> sca: ./file
[09:01] <mx> gotta give the directory
[09:01] <scabootssca> ahh i was forgetting the .
[09:01] <mx> :p
[09:01] <scabootssca> thanks
[09:01] <feet> get rid of*
[09:01] <mx> no probs
[09:01] <mx> hehe feet, that looked a little odd at first, i must admit
[09:02] <feet> lol
[09:02] <feet> yeah i just noticed :P
[09:02] <unix_infidel> how can i use export to prompt me to enter a env variable value?
[09:02] <mx> how did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[09:02] <feet> apt-get
[09:02] <mx> ah
[09:03] <mx> i'm not saying that this won't break your system, cuz i don't know enough to tell, but.. apt-get remove ?
[09:03] <feet> tried doing apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[09:03] <feet> only ever gets rid of the virtual package, nothing else
[09:04] <mx> ah
[09:04] <mx> hmm
[09:05] <DHGE> feet: no easy way - U better let it the way it is, unless you want to sort out whats needed or not on your own (MUCH and dangerous work)
[09:05] <feet> i cant leave it how it is, i need the disk space
[09:05] <DHGE> apt-get clean
[09:05] <DHGE> clears cache
[09:05] <feet> i know
[09:05] <mx> hmm
[09:06] <feet> how does that pertain to my problem
[09:06] <mx> does it output anything if it does anything?
[09:06] <feet> The following packages will be REMOVED: ubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <feet> After unpacking 41.0kB disk space will be freed.
[09:07] <feet> woo hoo, a whole 41 kb, bravo >_>
[09:07] <mx> heh
[09:07] <feet> lol
[09:07] <mx> A meta-package is a package that doesn't contain applications within itself, but simply depends upon particular versions of other packages, so that when it is installed, it drags all of them in too.
[09:08] <AZ_AS> that reminds me...there a way to clean out the dependencies after trying a program and deciding one doesn't want it?
[09:08] <scabootssca> mx it says permission denied it's in the home/username directory
[09:08] <Tm_T> deborphan for example
[09:09] <mx> hmm.. sudo?
[09:09] <DHGE> AZ_AS: aptitude should do it - but I do not like the handling of this program (it is also more or less aptitude or else to function properly)
[09:09] <feet> well i could always get dpkg to list ubuntu-desktop's dependencies, and then do a great big sudo apt-get remove (copy and paste everything here) ?
[09:09] <feet> =\
[09:09] <Tm_T> feet: or just remove some crucial package, something like libgnome
[09:09] <DHGE> scabootssca: chmod +x file (if you own it)
[09:10] <Tm_T> that'll pull down everything gnome-related, I think
[09:10] <AZ_AS> I 've been using Adept mostly to install the packages but wondering if the purge function might work for that purpose and delete dependencies or am I wrong in thinking that?
[09:10] <Tm_T> or most of it
[09:10] <Tm_T> AZ_AS: purge removes config files
[09:10] <DHGE> AZ_AS: Ur wrong - purge weeps config-files and stuff like that
[09:11] <AZ_AS> ok, ty...had been wondering how it differed from remove
[09:11] <feet> oops
[09:11] <feet> what was that was just mentioned? libgnome?
[09:11] <DHGE> AZ_AS: been there ;-)
[09:11] <Tm_T> feet: something like that
[09:11] <feet> it isnt there
[09:11] <feet> hmm
[09:12] <Tm_T> feet: I didn't say that is there, "something like that" ;)
[09:12] <AZ_AS> so apitude's my only choice then for something like that?
[09:12] <feet> well, "something like that" isnt to helpful..
[09:12] <feet> but ill have a look
[09:12] <Tm_T> feet: use search
[09:12] <feet> apt-cache here i come
[09:12] <Tm_T> hehe
[09:13] <feet> oh dear lord
[09:13] <feet> big list
[09:13] <DHGE> feet: and you NEW KDE stuff! <eg>
[09:13] <Tm_T> heh
[09:13] <feet> ima just list everything in ubuntu-desktop with dpkg and do it that way
[09:13] <feet> i had kubuntu before, then i wiped it by mistake, and couldnt find kubuntu cd so resigned to using ubuntu one
[09:14] <Tm_T> feet: apt-cache search gnome | grep lib | grep core
[09:14] <Tm_T> feet: that might help
[09:14] <feet> ive already decided lol
[09:14] <feet> oh wait
[09:14] <feet> that helped a bit
[09:15] <Tm_T> soo, I'm not totally useless afterall ;)
[09:15] <feet> no, my mistake. no entries at all
[09:15] <feet> lol
[09:15] <feet> oh wait
[09:15] <Tm_T> haha
[09:15] <feet> isnt there a defaultish gnome package?
[09:15] <feet> like there is kde base
[09:15] <feet> need to find gnome's one..
[09:16] <DHGE> feet: I repeat myself: you want to sort out whats needed or not on your own (MUCH and dangerous work)
[09:17] <feet> ive done it before you know
[09:17] <feet> just not quite the same way
[09:17] <Tm_T> :)
[09:17] <Tm_T> it's adventure ;)
[09:17] <feet> and i dont want to sort through everything manually, i want to get rid of GNOME and thats final *huff*
[09:17] <DHGE> feet: repeat again? ;-)
[09:18] <Tm_T> feet: libgnome32
[09:18] <feet> lets try that
[09:18] <feet> nope
[09:19] <feet> only gets rid of a few
[09:19] <Tm_T> hmm
[09:20] <Tm_T> feet: libgnome* ? =)
[09:20] <feet> lol
[09:20] <feet> thats it!
[09:20] <feet> woo hoo for wildcards
[09:20] <Tm_T> yeah, brutal
[09:21] <Tm_T> make sure you don't remove anything you don't have to
[09:21] <Tm_T> or should
[09:21] <feet> lol
[09:21] <feet> its all fine
[09:21] <Tm_T> hehe
[09:21] <feet> if it gets rid of things gnome depends on, and gnome wont even be around, no worries
[09:22] <feet> while im here
[09:22] <feet> anyone ever seen this message on apt-get before? its bothersome: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `libieee1284-3' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed
[09:23] <feet> lol
[09:26] <kutan> I'm confused
[09:26] <kutan> I was taking a look at some stuff
[09:27] <kutan> while I was in the directory on the DVD I have
[09:27] <kutan> and I did "find"
[09:27] <kutan> It seems like it sees everything in the DVD but it has a problem copying all of the files
[09:29] <kutan> Does it seem like there's anything wrong with that?
[09:30] <hua> can i ask a question,i need help
[09:30] <kutan> You don't have to ask to ask a question but, don't expect me to help... I fail at linux
[09:31] <hua> hmmm...
[09:32] <feet> yea askl away
[09:32] <feet> what have you to lose :)
[09:34] <lexinc> must be a long question
[09:34] <kutan> So.. does anyone have a solution to my problem? >_>;
[09:35] <lexinc> are you trying to burn a dvd
[09:35] <kutan> I already burned the DVD
[09:35] <kutan> 5 actually
[09:35] <lexinc> it failed to work properly then?
[09:36] <kutan> Yeah, it seems to be able to read it fine and sees everything on it
[09:36] <DHGE> !dvd
[09:36] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:36] <kutan> but when I try to copy the files onto my desktop (etc.) it tells me it can't read it because of an error
[09:37] <lexinc> try looking on the websites to see if other people got the same error and fixed it
[09:37] <DHGE> or better: which error - tell us
[09:37] <lexinc> yeah'
[09:38] <kutan> hold on, it takes for ever to recognize it has an error
[09:38] <kutan> cp: reading `WoW-1.12.0-enUS-patch.exe': Input/output error
[09:39] <LeeJunFan> i/o error would be a corrupt file - bad burn. Did you copy to DVD as files or did you make an iso image?
[09:39] <kutan> Copied as files
[09:39] <LeeJunFan> kutan: open konsole and type dmesg you'll probably see an I/O error there.
[09:40] <Tigerx> hi all
[09:40] <lexinc> hi
[09:40] <kutan> woaaah dmesg gives me a bunch of I/O errors
[09:40] <Tigerx> che si dice?
[09:40] <LeeJunFan> kutan: yep, bad burn. If you make an iso image first then burn at least you have something to md5sum against.
[09:41] <Tigerx> 
[09:41] <kutan> I'm afraid I can't do that...
[09:41] <kutan> I already formatted... ._.
[09:42] <lexinc> maybe burn slower
[09:42] <kutan> >_< That means I just lost 20 gigs worth of files...
[09:43] <LeeJunFan> kutan: not neccesarily. Unless you get that with every file. Maybe the corruption is just in that one file?
[09:43] <kutan> I tried 3 or 4 files on the DVD
[09:43] <kutan> maybe I should try one of the other DVDs I burned
[09:44] <lexinc> output could get overloaded
[09:44] <LeeJunFan> kutan: did you burn them from windows or linux?
[09:44] <Tigerx> bluuuuuuuuuuu baby
[09:45] <Tigerx> uuuuuuuuuuuuh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh baby blu
[09:45] <kutan> Windows
[09:45] <kutan> Now I'm tryin to get em on linux
[09:48] <kutan> -_- the second DVD doesn't even seem to load
[09:48] <kutan>  /cdrom has nothin in it >_>
[09:49] <LeeJunFan> kutan: you don't have another computer to try them in do you?
[09:49] <kutan> ... :(
[09:49] <LeeJunFan> kutan: maybe if you clean the lense of your DVD drive? q-tip / alcohol
[09:50] <LeeJunFan> very sparingly with the fluids.
[09:50] <chris449> hi i'm in a command prompt only situation atm, how do i manually start the network?
[09:50] <chris449> *eth1
[09:50] <LeeJunFan> chris449: ifup eth1
[09:50] <chris449> damn
[09:50] <LeeJunFan> chris449: if it's been configured before - it will get the configs from /etc/network/interfaces
[09:50] <chris449> it's already up
[09:50] <DHGE> chris449: man ifup (might need modules)
[09:51] <chris449> oops
[09:51] <chris449> how do i get out of the manual?
[09:51] <DHGE> q
[09:51] <chris449> lol
[09:51] <chris449> thanks
[09:52] <chris449> i'm new to kubuntu and linux in general and my friend tells me to try xgl, so i look for a guide on the net and follow it, but now it doesn't seem to start xserver
[09:52] <chris449> i wanted the network support to re-install xserver
[09:52] <chris449> but to no avail
[09:54] <LeeJunFan> ugh, installing those puts some other crap on your system too. uninstalling them is a pain.
[09:54] <chris449> lol i dont' really want to uninstall it
[09:54] <chris449> but i thought i already had xserver installed?
[09:55] <LeeJunFan> chris449: it installs modified xserver I think. You get the one from the beerokid repos?
[09:55] <chris449> yeh
[09:55] <lexinc> hey new color
[09:56] <chris449> crap, still can't ping my router
[09:56] <chris449> hmm
[09:56] <chris449> it just didnt' like my eth
[09:57] <chris449> i have dual ethernet and just changed to the other one
[09:57] <chris449> anyone tried xgl?
[09:58] <chris449> will apt-get still install a package if the public key is not available? i know i get that warning about not being certified or something
[09:59] <kutan> Hmmm Can I use windows media player 9 with firefox in linux using WINE?
[09:59] <LeeJunFan> chris449: I've had it working before. It just wasn't practical for me, not with kde decorations not working.
[09:59] <LeeJunFan> Using gnome window decorations in KDE is an ugly hack.
[09:59] <LeeJunFan> chris449: it will ask if you want to proceed.
[09:59] <chris449> LeeJunFan: i like my kde and i want xgl lol, i guess u can't have everything
[10:00] <CVirus> kutan: I apologize for this .... but ... WHY THE FUCK do you want to do that ?
[10:00] <LeeJunFan> chris449: nope, I figured I'd wait until it worked better with KDE. It was okay, but nothing I couldn't live w/o.
[10:01] <LeeJunFan> kutan: you probably can but if you install the right codecs, kmplayer will do just about every media type in konqueror.
[10:01] <kutan> Well I feel the same way... kinda... I need in order to watch some videos on a website... if there were an easier way I'd love to know
[10:01] <LeeJunFan> !restricted > kutan
[10:02] <CVirus> !restricted
[10:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:02] <CVirus> kutan: ^
[10:03] <chris449> LeeJunFan: i'm having a problem where it won't even get to the login screen coz something's screwed up. i know how to change it bak to normal xserver, but would it be because i'm missing cgwd-themes?
[10:03] <kOpter> Yello :)
[10:03] <kOpter> I've got a strange problem: on cold boot, my hardware sometimes doesn't get recognized... So I have no mouse, network or anything...
[10:04] <kOpter> And the strangest thing is that rebooting solves it 9/10 times...
[10:04] <LeeJunFan> chris449: no, but you might be able to gather some info from /var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/kdm.log
[10:05] <DHGE> kOpter: get a new battery (2-6 EUR)
[10:06] <chris449> LeeJunFan: i hate sifting through logs in text mode
[10:06] <DHGE> chris449: grep EE
[10:06] <kOpter> DNGE> It's not the BIOS battery..
[10:07] <chris449> DHGE: what's that?
[10:07] <DHGE> man grep
[10:07] <chris449> lol busy atm
[10:07] <kOpter> DNGE> The BIOS is fine.. the system boots up (IDE etc are detected okay).
[10:07] <chris449> i got no xserver...
[10:07] <LeeJunFan> chris449: when in doubt man :) grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:07] <rtyurin> hello
[10:07] <DHGE> kOpter: How old is the mobo?
[10:07] <chris449> ok
[10:07] <chris449> i was using vi
[10:08] <kOpter> DHGE > I't a Pentium 2 GHz.. so probably around 5
[10:08] <chris449> LeeJunFan: will that tell me all the problems that it's having?
[10:09] <DHGE> U are lucky - 5 years is a GOOD battery life
[10:09] <stuart_> rtyurin:hello
[10:09] <LeeJunFan> chris449: yes, if you understand what it's telling you.
[10:10] <rtyurin>        kde keyboard tool
[10:10] <chris449> LeeJunFan: i think "Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found" can only mean one thing
[10:10] <LeeJunFan> chris449: heh, that pretty much sums it up.
[10:10] <chris449> LeeJunFan: apt-get install nvidia-glx told me i had the latest version, is there something else i'm missing?
[10:11] <chris449> LeeJunFan: these drivers keep screwing me over, i get bsod in windows coz of the drivers when playing fear
[10:11] <LeeJunFan> chris449: the xserver that came with the xgl stuff may have overwritten it.
[10:11] <chris449> LeeJunFan: i just ran it then
[10:11] <LeeJunFan> or just won't link to it because it was compiled against wrong X.
[10:11] <chris449> i don't understand?
[10:12] <DHGE> !xgl
[10:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:12] <LeeJunFan> chris449: I'm not sure about the nvida stuff but you may have to install by hand - not apt-get
[10:13] <chris449> LeeJunFan: i don't [i] need[/i]  compiz to run xgl do i?
[10:14] <kOpter> DHGE > I just don't understand why HD and videocard work perfectly, but network and mouse are just gone
[10:16] <DHGE> kOpter: Me not either - I had these symptoms several times in the last 20 years - a new battery cured them more than 5 times (different machines)
[10:17] <elvin> its as if there were pieces of it falling up and towards the left a little bit, but to the right more
[10:18] <kOpter> DHGE > I think it has a rechargeable battery.. but that can offcourse also be failing...
[10:19] <kOpter> DHGE > Only problem is now that I'd have to take apart my barebone with 3 HD's + 2 HD Coolers :)
[10:20] <DHGE> kOpter: RT(F)M of your board - "Only problem is now ..." AAHH now I see ;-)
[10:21] <DHGE> kOpter: maybe with this machine it's just too COLD on cold boot - your pc loves HEAT  <eg>
[10:29] <rjb> hi, somthing weird about recent updates - why does adept want to remove kdelibs-bin??
[10:33] <chris449> LeeJunFan: hey hey!! it's working
[10:34] <chris449> LeeJunFan: refresh rate is a little slow but it's great!
[10:34] <kOpter> DHGE > It's kind-of thight in there :)
[10:35] <DHGE> kOpter: been there - done that ...
[10:35] <chris449> does anyone know how to up the refresh rate?
[10:41] <ironfroggy> i configured my cups printer with kprint, and it works from kde apps.but, even tho firefox can see it and says it successfully prints, i never see anything print from it.
[10:43] <chris449> is there a show desktop shortcut? kinda like the gnome one?
[10:43] <rjb> i went for the update to kde-3.5.4, and now handling of removable media seems to be broken - is this a known bug?
[10:52] <D4rkly> hi does anyone know how i can convert mp3 to mp4 ?
[10:58] <maltaethiron> ok guys, question...
[10:58] <maltaethiron> it was gonna take forever to download a torrent right?
[10:58] <maltaethiron> well
[10:59] <maltaethiron> i right clicked on the torrent like in ktorrent and clicked "manual announce" (just to mess around with things), and then all the sudden..
[10:59] <maltaethiron> ive got a bunch of seeders and leechers
[11:00] <maltaethiron> did i do that? or is it a coincedence?
[11:10] <kutan> Hmmm
[11:10] <kutan> I try to uhm
[11:10] <kutan> Install the drivers for my NVIDIA card
[11:10] <kutan> but it gives me this error
[11:10] <kutan> ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[11:10] <kutan>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[11:10] <kutan>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[11:12] <CVirus> kutan: sudo apt-get install binutils
[11:12] <xanax`> hello
[11:12] <kutan> Yeah heh I just got that, now it gives me another problem
[11:12] <CVirus> kutan: read those errors messeges before you ask please
[11:12] <kutan> Alright this one I can't understand though
[11:12] <kutan> cause I have no idea what it means
[11:13] <kutan> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[11:13] <kutan>          installing.
[11:13] <kutan> ...What's X? -_-
[11:13] <osh_> kutan: the graphical interface.
[11:14] <osh_> kutan: the "framework" that kde is built on. sort of.
[11:14] <AZ_AS> speaking of X, there should be a way to run it or start it up to run an X app when running Kubuntu as a virtual machine?
[11:14] <kutan> Well how do I get into the konsole without being in X..?
[11:15] <osh_> kutan: ctrl f1. or ctrl-alt-f1
[11:15] <|brad|> osh_: X will still be running...
[11:15] <|brad|> he has to log out
[11:15] <|brad|> and when he gets to the kdm screen click console login
[11:15] <|brad|> that will drop you to a console with out X
[11:15] <kutan> ah okay
[11:16] <kutan> Hmmm alright so like when I finish installing if it works properly, how am I gonna get outta the console and to the login screen?
[11:17] <kutan> I'm not too keen on commands >_>
[11:17] <|brad|> you gonna wanna reboot
[11:17] <|brad|> you are installing drivers anyways
[11:17] <kutan> Oh so it'll probably just ask me if I wanna restart right?
[11:17] <|brad|> heh, no its not windows :)
[11:17] <|brad|> just type sudo reboot
[11:17] <kutan> lol okay
[11:17] <kutan> Thanks
[11:18] <kutan> brb then
[11:18] <nagyv_> is here someone who could help me to connect to the net using my mobile phone? (sony-ericsson D750) I have tried with easyconnect, but probably I don't know how pppd works.
[11:18] <|brad|> good luck to ya
[11:22] <|brad|> nagyv_: wow its a linux phone?
[11:22] <nagyv_> |brad|: no, it's a mobile phone :)
[11:26] <|brad|> i just used kppp to get mine working
[11:26] <|brad|> and that was a couple of years ago
[11:28] <|brad|> anyone ever recompiled their kernel on kubuntu?
[11:28] <redondo81> can you suggest me a good partition editor for kde?
[11:29] <|brad|> read my last msg in #ubuntu
[11:29] <redondo81> ok brad , thanks
[11:29] <z00m> redondo81: qparted ?
[11:29] <|brad|> redondo81: well thats 2 votes for qtparted :)
[11:30] <redondo81> ok, I'll tr it
[11:30] <redondo81> try
[11:30] <kutan> Funny story, It didn't work.
[11:30] <kutan> hold on.. gonna get the log
[11:30] <kutan> somethin about CC error
[11:31] <|brad|> are you sure you install binutils and all its goodies?
[11:31] <kutan> Yeah
[11:33] <|brad|> ok everyone cross your fingers im rebooting a remote system after recompiling the kernel.... hope it works :0
[11:34] <z00m> |brad|: good luck ;)
[11:34] <kutan> o_O
[11:36] <j2daosh> i have 2 windows boxs upstairs... one of those boxes is eviler then the other and i would like to block that computer from being able to get at my shared drive. can i change the workgroup im sharing to and only share with the nice computer, while still being able to network to the other workgroups?
[11:37] <|brad|> woot! worked
[11:37] <j2daosh> fabcon1982
[11:37] <|brad|> j2daosh: there are better ways of doing that
[11:38] <j2daosh> im sure there are
[11:38] <AZ_AS> hmm, any ideas on how to run x11 apps when you're running Kubuntu in a virtual machine?
[11:38] <|brad|> its been a while since ive messed with samba
[11:38] <j2daosh> me too
[11:38] <j2daosh> another question, how to i connect to a windows box that needs a password i dont have :P
[11:39] <|brad|> but what if you change security to user and just not add a samba user for the computer
[11:39] <j2daosh> that is what it is set as
[11:39] <|brad|> j2daosh: use the user and pass of the person that is logged in?
[11:39] <j2daosh> but it shared to entire network
[11:40] <j2daosh> ill be back on about 30 minutes (have to go to work now)
[11:40] <|brad|> wish i could irc from work....
[11:48] <kutan> Screw it... I can't deal with these problems right now D:
[11:49] <kutan> I think I'm gonna wait until I have an extra computer I can screw around with that I can install kubuntu on
[11:49] <kutan> See ya all
[12:02] <calvin> hello, goodmoring
[12:06] <|brad|> yo yo
[12:11] <ocjeunesse> salut
[12:11] <ocjeunesse> je cherche un antivirus sur kubuntu
[12:12] <Lynoure> !fr
[12:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:13] <ubuntu> nas
[12:13] <osh_> ocjeunesse: http://sourceforge.net/projects/clamav
[12:14] <ubuntu> hola?
[12:14] <ocjeunesse>  <osh_>oui je les installer mais je ne sais pas ou il est
[12:15] <Lynoure> ocjeunesse: There are also commercial ones. Do you want one for a desktop or a server?
[12:15] <ubuntu> alguien habla espaol?
[12:15] <Lynoure> !es
[12:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:15] <osh_> ocjeunesse: My school-french isn't good enough to keep conversations on. Please speak english.
[12:15] <osh_> ocjeunesse: Something here? http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=antivirus
[12:18] <jorik> how can i get KDE to mount whatever DVD was inserted when i started the computer? i keep all my music on that DVD and i'm getting tired having to go to media:/hda before i can listen to my music :/
[12:19] <nagyv_> jorik: you can automount whatever you want if you add it to your /etc/fstab file
[12:19] <Kr[4] t05> jorik: You can put a bash script in ~/.kde/Autostart that mounts the DVD to a certain directory, as well.
[12:20] <Kr[4] t05> nagyv_: I'm not sure if /etc/fstab is a good idea for removeable media.
[12:20] <nagyv_> jorik: I would prefer Kr[4] t05's idea :)
[12:20] <jorik> cool i didnt know about ~/.kde/Autostart ...
[12:21] <Kr[4] t05> jorik: It's a useful tool. Just paste this into a file in kate.
[12:21] <jorik> but then i have to repeat it for my sister and my parents aswell, right ? what's the downside of using fstab ?
[12:22] <Kr[4] t05> jorik: if the DVD isn't in the drive at boot-up, things could get ugly.
[12:22] <jorik> ah ok
[12:24] <Kr[4] t05> jorik: ok, scratch that.
[12:24] <jorik> pretty as a picture ?
[12:24] <Kr[4] t05> jorik: Hold on a sec...
[12:27] <|brad|> anyone have sata2 working in (k)ubuntu
[12:29] <cox377> Hello all
[12:29] <cox377> some time ago
[12:30] <cox377> i added folders to my desktop then ran a command that would look to a drive on a remote computer, the script looked something like this
[12:30] <cox377> mount -t smbfs -o guest //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/share /home/admin/Desktop/xxx
[12:31] <cox377> but there is a lot of shares, and the only way to renable them on start up is run the command through terminal every time, is there a way to add them into the start up script?
[12:31] <Kr[4] t05> jorik: "#!/bin/bash" <return> "sudo mount -r -t iso9660 /dev/<disc> <mountpoint>"
[12:31] <Kr[4] t05> cox377: fstab
[12:32] <Kr[4] t05> !fstab > cox377
[12:32] <jorik> Kr[4] t05: but, if that's a bash script i put in Autostart, how will it get my pass from stdin ?
[12:33] <nagyv_> Kr[4] t05: wouldn't it b better to use pmounter? actually ubuntu uses it too, to outomount everything
[12:33] <Kr[4] t05> jorik: ?
[12:33] <Kr[4] t05> nagyv_: Maybe you should handle this?
[12:33] <Kr[4] t05> I have to get ready for school.
[12:33] <cox377> is this about my question?
[12:34] <Kr[4] t05> cox377: Did you read the link ubotu gave you?
[12:34] <nagyv_> cox377: I jsut get back, it's for jorik
[12:34] <zarrelli> hi
[12:34] <jorik> Kr[4] t05: well, it uses sudo ... maybe i can leave it out if i put something in fstab ... wasn't their a "everyone can mount" directive ?
[12:34] <cox377> there just loading up now
[12:35] <Kr[4] t05> jorik: Yeah... Specify all of the information with these mount options: "ro,noauto,users
[12:35] <Kr[4] t05> "
[12:36] <jorik> thx man !
[12:36] <nagyv_> jorik: I would put this under Autostart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22035
[12:37] <jorik> pmount, hmmm ... looks good, i'll try it
[12:37] <josh__> what was the ommand to change username?
[12:37] <josh__> "/nick"?
[12:38] <j2daosh> yep
[12:41] <cox377> I've looked @ the fstab stuff, so i think i understand that the mount point etc etc, but where does the external share location go?
[12:43] <denver1> does anyone know how to creat a Smart Boot Manager bootable cd
[12:47] <tjb> Is kubuntu the same as ubuntu apart from using KDE by default?
[12:47] <ubuntu> hello people
[12:47] <Tm_T> tjb: yes, same base
[12:48] <ubuntu> how do i edit ubuntu
[12:48] <Tm_T> tjb: difference is in desktop apps and settings
[12:48] <tjb> okay
[12:48] <ubuntu> make it cane bill gates
[12:48] <ubuntu> software
[12:49] <j2daosh> anyone know where i can get a tutorial on setting up security for samba? i dont wanna share folders with everyone on the network, just my other box needs access to my files. however everything is shared to everyone via samba
[12:50] <ubuntu>  lol
[12:51] <tjb> How do (k)ubuntu and mandriva compare?
[12:52] <jott_> j2daosh: man smb.conf ? ;)
[12:52] <j2daosh> im looking for a most easily understandable/better written way if possible
[12:52] <jott_> (search for hosts allow ...there are various examples in the man page)
[12:54] <cox377> back to adding this script to start up?? is it possible?
[12:54] <cox377> mount -t smbfs -o guest //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/share /home/admin/Desktop/xxx
[12:55] <jott_> cox377: why not use fstab?
[12:55] <j2daosh> cox, just connect with konquer and drop a link on your desktop to it...
[12:56] <cox377> jott: i didn't quite understand how to add the share location
[12:56] <cox377> j2daosh: do u mean a link on the desktop that runs the script?
[12:57] <jott_> cox377: hm.. well its <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
[12:58] <cox377> is file system the share drive or the local machine?
[12:58] <jott_> cox377: so fs is your share, mount point is where you want it, type is smbfs options might be username=guest and dump/pass should be 0
[12:59] <cox377> ok, cool cheers shall give it a go
[01:00] <jott_> just unmount it... place the entry in your fstab and test it with "mount mountpoint" ...
[01:04] <cox377> jott_: to u literally mean "mount mountpoint" or is mountpoint replaced with the MP entered in the fstab?
[01:05] <cox377> ok, cool it mounted it
[01:05] <cox377> just permission denied
[01:07] <cox377> i wonder if it's the guest part
[01:12] <cox377> jott_ i assume the user name is guest as thats what has previosly worked but not with the fstab, u got ideas mate?
[01:19] <pete__> need some help here, im trying to play a dvd on x86 version or this distro, on kaffeine, im getting plug-in errors, is there any other music / dvd players i can install ?
[01:20] <cozomo> hi I amhaving problmswwwith  mykeyboarrrd ihave to holddd downakey for 1.7 or so seconds fro it to input
[01:24] <OpeNZ> anyone here having trouble with firefox not opening mail links into thunderbird?
[01:27] <cozomo> hi I amhaving problmswwwith  mykeyboarrrd ihave to holddd downakey for 1.7 or so seconds fro it to input
[01:29] <pete__> how do i mount my dvd-rom drive ?
[01:29] <OpeNZ> cozomo: menu > system settings > regional access > accessibility
[01:30] <cozomo> oh god THANK YOU
[01:30] <OpeNZ> cozomo : then keyboard filters tab and uncheck "slow keys" box
[01:30] <cozomo> OpeNZ: You ROCK
[01:32] <darintenb> i'm thinking about installing kubuntu on an older machine.. but i'm wonder how old is too old?
[01:32] <darintenb> i was originally going to try opensuse, but was advised against it.
[01:32] <darintenb> .. i've only got 64mb of ram
[01:38] <MuLLeR> hiya .. got some troubles installing kubuntu on a laptop .. if the installer says .. the ali chipset is not supported is it ok to continue installation
[01:40] <MuLLeR> ?
[01:59] <yugge> Hey guys. I can't seem to get the battery monitor working for my Packard bell R1939D (http://support.packardbell.com/se/item/index.php?pn=PB42BD0191&g=1400) can anyone assist me with it?
[02:09] <cox377> hello again
[02:09] <cox377> i'm trying to play this game
[02:09] <cox377> http://www.fox.com/24/game/index.htm
[02:09] <cox377> does anyone know how to make it work under kubuntu firefox?
[02:12] <OmegaNine> Does kubuntu barrow from ubuntu?  I like KDE, but Ubuntu is so well thought out, i dont wannt jump ship.
[02:12] <Jucato> OmegaNine: what do you mean by "barrow" (borrow)?
[02:13] <OmegaNine> Is it just ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome...And I guess so, just asked in Ubuntu :P  heh
[02:13] <Jucato> Kubunt is Ubuntu (without GNOME) using KDE. Underneath, they're practically the same
[02:13] <Jucato> Hi Hobbsee!
[02:15] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[02:17] <Jucato> Hobbsee: Red-Sox was asking about you a couple of hours ago in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:18] <Hobbsee> Jucato: okay, thanks
[02:18] <kevjava_>  /join #perl
[02:21] <larson9999> i'm still not sure i like the idea of the whole "let's call it a new distro if you use a new WM."  i'm not dead set against the idea either.
[02:21] <Jucato> well, let's just take into account Kubuntu's unique history...
[02:22] <grizzly> !kernel
[02:22] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:24] <grizzly> I installed a suspend2 kernel with a help of few deb files. Now do I go about backing it up? if possible
[02:24] <grizzly> or just tell me where exactly is it 'stored' ? as in which directory/files
[02:25] <larson9999> xbuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu, fubunt, edubuntu, icebuntu, wf95buntu, tmbuntu, yourbuntum, mybuntu, even macbuntu.  seems like it makes the already mindboggling choice of distros seem even more scary to the new folk.  i suppose that's the good thing about FOSS, you can do what you want even if "I" am not totally thrilled with the idea :)
[02:26] <Jucato> larson9999: you only have to take into account the 4 currently "official" names
[02:26] <Jucato> btw, Kubuntu and Xubuntu (I don't know about Edubuntu) are NOT separate distros, but just derivative projects...
[02:27] <Jucato> of course, it may be a bit confusing, but who says we always have to follow the conventional way of naming distros...
[02:28] <larson9999> Jucato: like i said, the good thing about FOSS is you can do it even if I'm not thrilled with the idea :)
[02:28] <Jucato> ehehe
[02:32] <baldi> hello
[02:35] <TheFuzzball> hello, how do I get Kubuntu to activate my Wireless card and connect to a network without having to run wlassistant?
[02:35] <{^S_perfecT^}> hi i have problem tp install wine...i am newbie...i have dowload it and i am typing in console ./tools/wineinstall and i get error: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH".can anybody help me ?? sorry for my bad english :S
[02:36] <TheFuzzball> run sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[02:36] <TheFuzzball> or build-essential
[02:36] <Jucato> "build-essential"
[02:36] <Jucato> (just confirming)
[02:36] <TheFuzzball> :)
[02:37] <arejaytee> why the frig do the repositories stop responding for me !!!!! ARRRGGHHH , but i can browse the bastards in konqueror
[02:37] <Jucato> arejaytee: what servers/mirrors are you using?
[02:38] <TheFuzzball> anyway, who knows how to get a wireless card to be active on startup and connect as well, without the use of wlassistant?
[02:38] <arejaytee> depends onn which ones start working for me lol
[02:38] <arejaytee> was using su, then us then uk then just archive.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <arejaytee> su=au
[02:39] <arejaytee> i got to install yakuake and then its back to waiting for headers in adept
[02:39] <Jucato> arejaytee: it could probably be a proxy problem? I'm not exactly sure how these proxy things work...
[02:39] <arejaytee> connection time outs in apt-get
[02:39] <arejaytee> proxy is false
[02:39] <Jucato> hmm...
[02:40] <arejaytee> also i cant seem to be able to drag windows into other desktops like i could on the live cd its wierd
[02:40] <{^S_perfecT^}> i am getting this.: E: Impossible the finding of parcel build-essential
[02:40] <Jucato> arejaytee: where are you trying to drag them?
[02:40] <arejaytee> to the right and left of the screen
[02:41] <Jucato> arejaytee: check your settings for this...
[02:42] <Jucato> System Settings > Desktop > Window Behavior >  Advanced Tab > Active Desktop Borders set either to "ALways enabled" or "Only when moving windows"
[02:44] <arejaytee> ahh ur a champ
[02:44] <Jucato> arejaytee: ehehe! you're lucky. I just discovered that a few days ago :-D
[02:46] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech@
[02:46] <DaSkreech> Damn Bwoy!
[02:46] <DaSkreech> You fast :)
[02:47] <Jucato> lol
[02:47] <Jucato> it's just a cowink-e-dink..
[02:47] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Good morning
[02:47] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good morning to you too
[02:47] <Jucato> Good morning Hawkwind!! (even if it's night time here... ehehe!)
[02:47] <DaSkreech> Morning Hawkwind
[02:48] <Jucato> looks like you guys are up and ready to face today's set of questions
[02:48] <DaSkreech> zzzZZZZzzzzzZZZ .errm eh?? what?
[02:48] <DaSkreech> Coffeeeeeee
[02:48] <Jucato> anyone know of a good mind mapping tool, aside from KDissert? (does Kivio count?)
[02:49] <arejaytee> whats the command to copy a file with a diff name? looking through bash commands but cant see it
[02:50] <Jucato> arejaytee: cp <old name> <new name>
[02:50] <arejaytee> danka
[02:51] <Jucato> come again? what's "danka"?
[02:52] <arejaytee> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sourcesus.list ?
[02:53] <Jucato> arejaytee: yep, as far as I know
[02:54] <liviux> Hola to anyone
[02:55] <grizzly>  /var/cache/apt/archives - will burning this folder to a cd, and then copying it back work as a backup?
[02:56] <grizzly> Don''t want to create a repo cd, just want to bcakup downloaded stuff
[02:58] <alessio> ciao  a tutti
[02:58] <DaSkreech> grizzly: I guess but it'd be old
[02:58] <DaSkreech> !it
[02:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:58] <Jucato> hmm..
[02:58] <Jucato> !ph
[02:58] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[02:58] <Jucato> lol..
[02:59] <grizzly> old as in ?
[02:59] <Jucato> how come our info isn't in our local language?!?!
[02:59] <alessio> #kubuntu-it
[02:59] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Who?
[03:00] <Jucato> the response of ubotu for !ph
[03:00] <arejaytee> is there a link so i can read up on commands and such for using in terminal? (like cp and dpkg and so forth (i dotn actually know what dpkg does lol )
[03:01] <atkaazm> Hi! What utility can I use to detect when battery is below certain percentage(or mAh) and shutdown my laptop? (not using X.org!just console)
[03:01] <Jucato> http://jucato.multiply.com/journal/item/31 <--- transcript of the previous #ubuntu-classroom session about command line basics
[03:02] <arejaytee> sweet thanks Jucato :) glad u hear tonight :)
[03:02] <Jucato> if only OO.o uses MDI... I wouldn't be torn between OO.o and KOffice..
[03:02] <Jucato> arejaytee: ehehe sure
[03:02] <arejaytee> here even
[03:02] <Jucato> no problem! :-D
[03:04] <atkaazm> does acpi-support do that ?
[03:05] <TheFuzzball> hi, when I type sudo apt-get build-dep kdebase I get: E: Build-dependencies for kdebase could not be satisfied.
[03:05] <TheFuzzball> does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:08] <grizzly> possible to backup a non-default kernel ?
[03:08] <TheFuzzball> !kde3.5.4
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <TheFuzzball> !repositorys
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositorys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <TheFuzzball> !repository
[03:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:09] <hermes> hey
[03:10] <arejaytee> wierd sudo cp sources.list sourcesau.list aint working
[03:10] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: you could /msg ubotu for your private searches
[03:10] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, or I could just !whatever it :)
[03:11] <TheFuzzball> err, how do I fix E: Build-dependencies for amarok could not be satisfied.??
[03:11] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: !whatever > TheFuzzball . just don't flood the channel
[03:12] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, it would be nice if someone actually helped in this channel, currently other than you telling me off there is nobody saying anything
[03:13] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: I would help if I knew how to solve your problem. I don't "tell people off" just for fun
[03:14] <RogueThunder> So... hello... someone hinted to me roughly 8-10hrs ago that he might be around and capible of assisting in the troubleshooting of my wlan card... which happens to be prism 54 based.
[03:14] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, I am sure you don't, I'm sorry, I just have a headache and a bad day, sorry if I've offended you
[03:14] <RogueThunder> Might that person, or someone elce capible of helping me be around and... willing to help at this insane time of day?
[03:14] <DaSkreech> TheFuzzball: Whats up?
[03:15] <DaSkreech> TheFuzzball: Do you have sources inyour ummm sources.list?
[03:15] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech, yea...
[03:16] <grizzly> where are keyboard shortcuts for kubuntu stored ? Anyone?
[03:16] <arejaytee> man this is shitting me :( loved it when it actually worked and i could install yakuake
[03:16] <arejaytee> but thats all its done lol
[03:16] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech, firstly I have been trying to get Kopete working all day then something went wrong with my sources.list and I had to get another one off my brother and now I am trying to get Amarok 1.4.2 working properly
[03:17] <DaSkreech> TheFuzzball: Are you trying to build it from source?
[03:17] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech, Amarok 1.4.2? no, I got a repository
[03:17] <DaSkreech> Ah So why are doing a build-dep ?
[03:17] <Jucato> grizzly: System Settings > Regional and Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:18] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech, to give it everything it needs to run properly
[03:18] <DaSkreech> TheFuzzball: That's not waht build-dep does
[03:18] <DaSkreech> Apt-get install does that
[03:18] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech, well, I tried to do it with kdebase and it says that it could not be satisfied.
[03:19] <DaSkreech> It's a one line error?
[03:19] <grizzly> Jucato: I meant in which file. for backup
[03:19] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech, yea
[03:19] <Jucato> grizzly: oh..
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Can you paste it here?
[03:19] <Jucato> !pastebin
[03:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:19] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech, E: Build-dependencies for amarok could not be satisfied.
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Or pastebin it :)
[03:20] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech, that's it
[03:20] <DaSkreech> And you tried apt-get install kde-base?
[03:20] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech, or for Amarok anywya :)
[03:20] <arejaytee> mother fucker it was copying it, click on another file and they all show up wtf ? ive gone in and out of that folder so many times lol
[03:20] <DaSkreech> !language
[03:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:20] <arejaytee> ekk sorry
[03:20] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: are you trying to compile kdebase?
[03:21] <Jucato> rawr ignore me
[03:21] <DaSkreech> Who's rawr?
[03:21] <Jucato> rawr = roar = grrr...
[03:21] <RogueThunder> Anyone around able to assist me with troubleshooting a prism 54 based usb wireless network card? And willing, of course.
[03:21] <arejaytee> =rar
[03:21] <DaSkreech> :tries to refrain
[03:21] <arejaytee> lol
[03:22] <arejaytee> is there a refresh command or is it because my laptop is slow that the files are showing up/disappearing after i cp or rm them
[03:22] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech, no, I am trying to upgrade kdebase from 3.5.3 to 3.5.4 along with all of the other apps, but it broke sources.list
[03:22] <DaSkreech> :counters with Master ninja ogg players
[03:23] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: would it be ok if you pastebin your sources.list?
[03:23] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, sure, hold on
[03:24] <eni> guys when i run GUI apps in root console i get this :
[03:24] <eni> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[03:24] <eni> what to do ?
[03:24] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[03:24] <Jucato> eni: use kdesu
[03:24] <Jucato> !kdesu
[03:24] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:24] <DaSkreech> eni: Try kdesu GUi_App
[03:24] <Jucato> don't run a root console
[03:24] <eni> Jucato: i did sudo su, to get root :S
[03:24] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[03:25] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, http://pastebin.com/779699
[03:25] <omeganine> How do i make the system beep go away in KDE?
[03:25] <Jucato> eni: I think sudo -i is the more proper way to do that. but still... use "kdesu <program>"
[03:25] <Hobbsee> Jucato: better running a root console than a root GUI
[03:25] <eni> i used ubuntu :|
[03:25] <eni> omeganine: yeah, im hating it too :)
[03:25] <eni> how to get beep turned off ?
[03:25] <Jucato> Hobbsee: well, you need a root gui for Adept... :-D
[03:25] <eni> or better.. how to get system sounds turned off.
[03:25] <eni> ?
[03:26] <omeganine> that alone would make me go back gnome
[03:26] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, if you could give me a complete sources.list that would be great
[03:26] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true that.  kdesu
[03:26] <Jucato> system beep or Konversation beep?
[03:26] <omeganine> System beeps, like when you tab in a terminal
[03:26] <eni> omeganine: omg, you just switched from gnome to kDE :) just like me..
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Hi Hobbsee
[03:26] <Jazon> finally!  1600+ fps with my ati x300
[03:26] <Jucato> System Settings > Sound and Multimedia > System Notifications
[03:27] <Skrot> How is linux+nforce these days?
[03:27] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, you there?
[03:27] <Jucato> you can set the settings for System Notifications on all KDE apps from there
[03:27] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: still reading...
[03:27] <arejaytee> GRRRRRRRRRRRR apt-get update work u bugger
[03:27] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, k
[03:28] <arejaytee> lol are there remote assistance tools for kubuntu
[03:28] <DaSkreech> arejaytee: What's the problem?
[03:28] <arejaytee> not that i could install it anyway
[03:28] <DaSkreech> Jucato: You can set it to be in your language?
[03:28] <DaSkreech> It's installed already I think
[03:29] <omeganine> http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=484  <---Turn off system beep
[03:29] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: where did you get these repositories? http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/ubuntu
[03:29] <Jucato> omeganine: I think I already mentioned something
[03:29] <arejaytee> DaSkreech: my net is working perfectly, i can browse to almost any repository, but if i run sudo apt-get update NOTHING ! just wont get the info
[03:29] <omeganine> Jucato: I want it gone gone, not just for one app at a time
[03:29] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, they were in the Kubuntu 6.06 Beta CD
[03:30] <arejaytee> adept just sits there saying waiting for headers and never gets info
[03:30] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: hmm...
[03:30] <Jucato> hold on
[03:30] <RogueThunder> Anyone around able to assist me with troubleshooting a prism 54 based usb wireless network card?(linksys wusb54gv1...) And willing, of course.
[03:30] <DaSkreech> arejaytee: I've heard of the servers being overworked and people not being able to update
[03:30] <DaSkreech> paitence?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> hey DaSkreech
[03:30] <arejaytee> for 6 days?
[03:31] <Jazon> hi
[03:31] <omeganine> mmmm much better
[03:31] <DaSkreech> RogueThunder: Have you read !wireless?
[03:31] <Jucato> omeganine: there's a "Turn Off All [Sounds] " button and an "Apply to all applications" option in System Settngs...
[03:31] <RogueThunder> ive tried that stuf...
[03:31] <DaSkreech> arejaytee: Umm No I haven't heard of that :(
[03:31] <Hobbsee> RogueThunder: ah, arent there native drivers for the prism stuff?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Ok Just checking
[03:31] <Hobbsee> or is it only some prism stuff?
[03:31] <omeganine> Jucato: I got the idea it was all sounds, not just system beeps, my bad...
[03:31] <RogueThunder> yeah... i cant manage the install process
[03:31] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: that could probably be the source of the problem. just probably though
[03:31] <RogueThunder> though i suspect they arnt working
[03:31] <arejaytee> yeah it worked this morning after i changed  to uk.archive and i got to install yakuake but after that it stopped again
[03:31] <RogueThunder> if they came default...
[03:32] <RogueThunder> I suspect its either some driver conflict, or bad driver, or something.
[03:32] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, the problem started when I added the KDE 3.5.4 repository, then when I deleted them and updated it was still there
[03:32] <RogueThunder> Among other things, the preticular card, has 2 different cards, based on the same prism 54... that in windows use the same driver.
[03:32] <cisoun> bonjour!
[03:33] <RogueThunder> But ndiswrapper, only has my card twin brother listed, and didnt load the card when installed(with the proper driver).
[03:33] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: you're using KDE 3.5.4 right now?
[03:33] <cisoun> y'a kelkun ki utilise aMSN?
[03:33] <RogueThunder> Only good thing i can say, is its a good learning experiance.
[03:34] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, no, the repository screwed up sources.list so I deleted it and kept KDE 3.5.3 but then kopete crashed on startup :'(
[03:34] <RogueThunder> Both twins CAN be found in the supported models list of the prism 54 native driver... but as i said i got lost trying to install it.
[03:35] <RogueThunder> So like i said... anyone capible and willing to assist me with configuring this conflabbin prism 54 linksys usb card?
[03:35] <DaSkreech> !fr
[03:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:36] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: when you say "screwed up sources.list", what do you mean? and did you already start downloading/installing KDE 3.5.4 before you removed it?
[03:36] <VincentMX> i can speak french too
[03:37] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, I mean it made it say it coulden't download something when I ran sudo apt-get update and yes I did already start downloading
[03:37] <VincentMX> je heisze VincentNX
[03:37] <VincentMX> hmm
[03:37] <VincentMX> no that's german
[03:37] <VincentMX> nm
[03:38] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: that could be a problem if it already installed some things for KDE 3.5.4, while the rest of your system is KDE 3.5.3
[03:38] <DaSkreech> arejaytee: has it ever updated?
[03:38] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, so how do I update my entire system to KDE 3.5.4?
[03:38] <Jucato> of course, it might have just downloaded and did not install anything
[03:39] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: btw, to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4, you might have to use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of upgrade only
[03:39] <atkaazm> Hi! Does any one know a program like klaptopdaemon for console only? to monitor battery status and run a script when x percent of power available.
[03:41] <arejaytee> ahh this is getting on my nerves lol
[03:41] <RogueThunder> Annyway... yet again i ask anyone capible and willing to assist me with configuring this conflabbin prism 54 linksys usb card?
[03:41] <Hobbsee> atkaazm: i'd use apt-cache search keyword for something like that
[03:41] <jott> RogueThunder: hm aren't the linksys usb sticks supported by linux-wlan-ng?
[03:41] <RogueThunder> Thats a good question.
[03:41] <jott> RogueThunder: http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[03:42] <Philip5> atkaazm: kde comes with a feature like that
[03:42] <Philip5> atkaazm: laptop battery in system settings
[03:42] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: the only suggestion I could make right now is to get a more "official" sources.list
[03:42] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, from where?
[03:42] <Jucato> hold on...
[03:42] <DaSkreech> !kde
[03:42] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[03:43] <atkaazm> Philip5: yes, but i've no X.org :) i want something for console only
[03:43] <RogueThunder> Its on there, but who knows if it actualy remembers to take note of the 2 versions of version one...
[03:43] <atkaazm> Hobbsee: did apt-cache search battery found aproximately nothing relevant :D but thanks ;)
[03:43] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: you can try this one: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[03:44] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, ta
[03:44] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: I would personally prefer not to include the PLF repos. but that's your choice to make :-D
[03:44] <TheFuzzball> plf/
[03:44] <TheFuzzball> ?*
[03:44] <jott> RogueThunder: well have you installed linux-wlan-ng?
[03:44] <RogueThunder> No clue, how mchg i check?
[03:44] <jott> what do you mean by 2 versions?
[03:44] <RogueThunder> might
[03:44] <RogueThunder> ugh
[03:45] <jott> !info linux-wlan-ng
[03:45] <ubotu> linux-wlan-ng: utilities for wireless prism2 cards. In component main, is extra. Version 0.2.3-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 129 kB, installed size 596 kB
[03:45] <RogueThunder> Linux newb here... that doesnt tell me how to check if i have it or not.
[03:45] <jott> so you proably need to fetch the firmeware as it sounds
[03:45] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: Penguin Liberation Front: a repository for some proprietary stuff that Ubuntu officially considers as "non-free" or restricted
[03:46] <jott> never  used the wlan-ng stuff..
[03:46] <kyaneos> has someone an EPSON printer or multifunction?? please
[03:46] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, ahh
[03:46] <jott> but..
[03:46] <jott> !info linux-wlan-ng-firmware
[03:46] <ubotu> linux-wlan-ng-firmware: firmware files used by the linux-wlan-ng driver. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2.3-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 54 kB, installed size 232 kB
[03:46] <jott> this is also there..
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Why is the Liberation Front then?
[03:46] <Jucato> DaSkreech: huh?
[03:47] <jott> RogueThunder: so when you installed the ng package you might try the supplied tools... (wlancfg sounds useful ;)
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Jucato: If it's trying to promote a set of packages which are intended to enslave the Penguins why is it called the Liberation Front?
[03:47] <RogueThunder> ummm
[03:47] <RogueThunder> i cant even figure out if i have the ng package
[03:47] <RogueThunder> ...
[03:47] <Jucato> DaSkreech: aaah... I have no idea...
[03:48] <RogueThunder> i never installed it myself
[03:48] <jott> RogueThunder: so you can query it by "dpkg-query -l linux-wlan-ng"
[03:48] <jott> RogueThunder: so you probably don't have it ;) just install it via adept or "aptitude install linux-wlan-ng"
[03:48] <RogueThunder> no packages found matching that
[03:48] <RogueThunder> so
[03:48] <RogueThunder> no
[03:49] <RogueThunder> i dont have it
[03:49] <RogueThunder> hum, so it would be found on the cd copy?
[03:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you can also look at it this way: it liberates the user from the constraints/choices of the distro, giving him/her (it?) more stuff to choose from
[03:49] <jott> RogueThunder: hmm main should be on the cd i think...
[03:49] <DaSkreech> ..... that are meant to enslave the penguins...
[03:49] <RogueThunder> cus, the computer involved has no net acess
[03:50] <jott> just try it;)
[03:50] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, how do I do this, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[03:50] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, without breaking anything :)
[03:50] <jott> ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/FAQ you might read this i guess..
[03:51] <RogueThunder> Thankfully my ... er... that cant be a good error
[03:51] <DaSkreech> What is?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> arejaytee: How goes it?
[03:51] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: add the repository for KDE 3.5.4 (choose one server/mirror), sudo apt-get update (Fetch Updates), then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (Full Upgrade, then Apply Changes)
[03:51] <RogueThunder> oh, i stuck the disk in and it gave me a read error
[03:51] <RogueThunder> there we go
[03:51] <RogueThunder> just a hair got on it
[03:51] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: don't for get to download and add the GPG key
[03:51] <RogueThunder> 4 cats... *chuckles*
[03:52] <arejaytee> it doesnt thats how lol
[03:52] <arejaytee> and ive just realised that my usb key has fallen off my keychain damnit
[03:53] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, do I download the key first?
[03:53] <VincentMX> anybody got experience with ipv6?
[03:53] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: use the commands on that page. the wget command
[03:53] <DaSkreech> arejaytee: Have you tried a new sources.list ?
[03:53] <DaSkreech> !sources
[03:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:54] <jott> RogueThunder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[03:54] <jott> its also in the wiki as it seems
[03:54] <jott> or help page
[03:54] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, ok, so I download the key add it, then can I delete it from where I downloaded it?
[03:54] <arejaytee> several my friend, i now have copies of uk us au and normal archive by itself lol
[03:54] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: you have to add it first with the apt-key command. I'm not sure if it's safe to delete it afterwards
[03:54] <RogueThunder> A red star... and the message Linux >= 2.6.13-rc1 requires pcmciacutils instead of pcmcia-cs
[03:55] <RogueThunder> but the rest of the stuf sounds good
[03:55] <RogueThunder> infortunately it said that right after Setting up it...
[03:55] <RogueThunder> and stoped there
[03:56] <arejaytee> what annoys me the most is i can access them through browser but not through apt-get and so forth
[03:59] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, I have just added it updated then apt-get dist-upgrade and it said there was nothing to update, and then when I installed kopete again it crashed :'(
[04:00] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: that's strange..
[04:00] <Jucato> it should upgrade if you are still using KDE 3.5.3
[04:01] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: run "kded --version" what version of KDE does it display?
[04:01] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, KDE: 3.5.4
[04:01] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: then you're using KDE 3.5.4 already..
[04:02] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, so why is it crashing?
[04:02] <supernix>  My upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 was not a fuss free one
[04:02] <supernix> the kdm is missing the outline for the login boxes
[04:03] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: hm.... I'm still thinking...
[04:03] <Hawkwind> TheFuzzball: 3.5.4 still has problems....several of us have had to go back to 3.5.3
[04:03] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I've had problems, but it's generaly usable
[04:03] <TheFuzzball> Hawkwind, how do completly downgrade from KDE 3.5.4 to 3.5.3?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> 3.5.5 ftw!
[04:05] <Hawkwind> I say we just jump right to 3.8.x
[04:06] <TheFuzzball> Hawkwind, there is no 3.8
[04:06] <ravenous> the 4 snapshot was  released
[04:06] <Jucato> lol
[04:06] <ravenous> monkey with that ;)
[04:06] <TheFuzzball> Hawkwind, the next major release is KDE 4
[04:06] <Hawkwind> TheFuzzball: Better read the site again
[04:06] <Jucato> what site?
[04:06] <TheFuzzball> Hawkwind, link?
[04:06] <Hawkwind> TheFuzzball: 3.8.x is available
[04:06] <Hawkwind> kde.org
[04:06] <ravenous> haha
[04:06] <Jucato> hmmm
[04:07] <Jucato> Hawkwind: you're serious?
[04:08] <TheFuzzball> Hawkwind, the latest announcement is KDE 3.5.4
[04:08] <Hawkwind> I've read about it 3.8.x somewhere.  There are tarballs of it
[04:08] <Ethos> anyone running steam on wine?
[04:08] <Jucato> Hawkwind: that just seems so intelikely
[04:08] <RogueThunder> Hummm
[04:08] <Jucato>  i mean unlikely
[04:08] <Jucato> sorry..
[04:09] <TheFuzzball> Hawkwind, as far as I know KDE4 comes next
[04:09] <Jucato> TheFuzzball: actually there would be KDE 3.5.5
[04:09] <TheFuzzball> Jucato, the next major release
[04:10] <Jucato> aaah
[04:10] <RogueThunder> hummmm
[04:10] <Hawkwind> 3.8 was a pre-snapshot actually.  It's the actual version number of the upcoming KDE 4
[04:10] <ravenous> the 4 snapshot is out now though
[04:10] <Jucato> Hawkwind: you're probably referring to "Krash"?
[04:10] <Hawkwind> Jucato: There's going to be a kubuntu meeting, thursday next week, 2100 UTC - can you be there?
[04:10] <TheFuzzball> !kde4
[04:11] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[04:11] <Hawkwind> That URL does not work
[04:11] <RogueThunder> when i use dpkg-query -l linux-wlan-ng would this be a normal message if it was installed and working right?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> I think her domain is down
[04:11] <TheFuzzball> there are no KDE4 screenshots, only mockups that people have made to taunt everybody
[04:11] <RogueThunder> | statys=not/installed/config-files/unpacked/failed-config/half-installed
[04:12] <bipolar> right now KDE 4 looks just like kde 3.5.
[04:12] <bipolar> no major UI changes have been done
[04:12] <jott> RogueThunder: thats just a header...
[04:12] <kyaneos> has somebody an EPSON printer?? please
[04:12] <ravenous> the snapshot is out though, its all guts though nothing visual has been done yet
[04:12] <RogueThunder> good
[04:12] <RogueThunder> i wasnt sure
[04:12] <Hawkwind> kyaneos: I do
[04:12] <DaSkreech> !printer
[04:12] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:12] <jott> there should be a line starting with "ii linux-wlan-ng..."
[04:12] <DaSkreech> kyaneos: Those links can help I should think
[04:12] <RogueThunder> yep
[04:12] <RogueThunder> ^.^
[04:13] <RogueThunder> good
[04:13] <Jucato> Hawkwind:  I'll be there. even though it's 5am here... @_@
[04:13] <RogueThunder> i hope it just compleatly ignored that no pcmcia card would work right in this thing due to ...
[04:13] <RogueThunder> since, this installs on a desktop
[04:13] <kyaneos> thank you very much
[04:13] <RogueThunder> i doubt it will ever come up
[04:13] <RogueThunder> lol
[04:13] <eni> how do i remove the system beep ? the one in konsole ?
[04:13] <kyaneos> but i can not load the gutenprint driver
[04:13] <Jucato> Hawkwind and ravenous: http://dot.kde.org/1155935483/ <--- first developer snapshot of KDE 4 "Krash" is that you guys were referring to?
[04:14] <jott> hehe RogueThunder i got one desktop with pcmcia somewhere here ... ;)
[04:14] <RogueThunder> oh
[04:14] <RogueThunder> ive seen
[04:14] <RogueThunder> and worked with it
[04:14] <ravenous> thats what i was talking about, the dev snapshot
[04:14] <DaSkreech> eni: I think Jucato explained that to you. Scroll back up to the last time you asked
[04:14] <RogueThunder> but this computers a junkyard wreak that i resurected and intend to use for a pcb design slave slash bittorrent slave.
[04:14] <jott> but its running netbsd not linux ;p
[04:14] <kyaneos> Hawkwind: is it a multifunction?
[04:14] <RogueThunder> it will likely never see another hardware setup
[04:14] <Hawkwind> Jucato: That's it.  3.80.1
[04:15] <Hawkwind> kyaneos: I have the Epson Stylus Photo R220 that prints on CD/DVD as well
[04:15] <kyaneos> mm
[04:15] <Jucato> DaSkreech: huh?
[04:15] <kyaneos> Hawkwind: what driver do you use?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Eh?
[04:15] <kyaneos> Hawkwind: or what packages have you installed?
[04:15] <RogueThunder> well... my laptop has a special applet in kubuntu to make it work right :P (blasted sony laptop)
[04:15] <Jucato> DaSkreech: oh that... lol
[04:16] <Hawkwind> kyaneos: I just went to systemsettings and clicked on Printers.  It actually pulls up kprinter and just works out of the box
[04:16] <RogueThunder> Not that i have room to install..
[04:16] <Hawkwind> kyaneos: I don't have it hooked to this box at the moment though
[04:16] <jott> RogueThunder: so when you installed just try to replug your usb stick
[04:16] <kyaneos> mm ok
[04:16] <RogueThunder> Jott: oooh this is fun... hehe, anyway meh i let it have a full reboot
[04:16] <jott> .. ;)
[04:16] <kyaneos> Hawkwind: other question, has that printer various color cartridges?
[04:17] <jott> this is not windows ;p
[04:17] <RogueThunder> jott: what i like watching the boot information...
[04:17] <kyaneos> Hawkwind: what do you do if a color is finished?
[04:17] <RogueThunder> jott: :P indeed, i know how to psuedo reboot windows without actualy rebooting it for most perpouses
[04:17] <Hawkwind> kyaneos: Yes, it has 6 cartridges.  5 color and 1 black
[04:18] <RogueThunder> O.o
[04:18] <RogueThunder> Hawkwind: what psyco company did that might i ask?
[04:18] <Hawkwind> RogueThunder: It's done to help eliviate wasting ink
[04:18] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Hey
[04:19] <Hawkwind> RogueThunder: That way if your blue or yellow runs out and the rest are half full, you only replace the one and you don't waste any unused ink
[04:19] <RogueThunder> Hawkwind: yes... but 5 colors makes no sence colorwheel wise...
[04:19] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: you on dapper?
[04:19] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Yepp.. :)
[04:19] <Hawkwind> RogueThunder: Sure it does...how does it not ?
[04:19] <jott> Hawkwind: but supports drying ink ;>
[04:19] <RogueThunder> Hawkwind: it would normaly be a multiple of 3...
[04:19] <Hawkwind> RogueThunder: Ummm it is multiple of 3, hence having 6 cartridges
[04:19] <ravenous> ;)
[04:20] <RogueThunder> Hawkwind: i ment the color carts, black is a seperate system
[04:20] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: use adept and install kcontrol-autostart , or open up konsole and run "sudo apt-get install kcontrol-autostart"
[04:20] <kyaneos> Hawkwind: can it print without a cartridge??
[04:20] <Hawkwind> RogueThunder: Well you don't need 6 colors, only 5
[04:20] <Hawkwind> kyaneos: Absolutely not
[04:20] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Doing so..
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Woah
[04:20] <RogueThunder> Hawkwind: just thinking pigment/light mixing... not psyco epsion thinking that inevitbly works perfectly.
[04:20] <kyaneos> what printers are well supported: HP or EPSON?
[04:21] <RogueThunder> Ironicaly... i own a working epsion printer nearing 10 years of age... still prints beautifully
[04:21] <Hawkwind> kyaneos: Obviously Epson since they work out of the box
[04:21] <kyaneos> Hawkwind: i do not understand what means out of the box
[04:22] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Got it... Damn neat function... =) As in I have fixed it... not n00b anymore! :D
[04:22] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: found it in kcontrol?
[04:22] <Hawkwind> kyaneos: I plug it in, click on printers to set it up and it just works
[04:22] <jott> kyaneos: well take canon for example... for good support you need the commercial turboprint driver :/
[04:22] <kyaneos> Hawkwind: i am trying to load the gutenprint, and it refuses me
[04:22] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Yep... Already added what I need! :D
[04:23] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: good 
[04:23] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Yep
[04:23] <RogueThunder> Ok... so now that i have this odd thing installed, shouldnt my wireless card still show under network settings? or am i wrong there
[04:23] <Hagbarddenstore> How do you do that =) icon?
[04:23] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: another cool thing... all applications that are running when you log out, will restart (autostart) when you log in, even after shutdown
[04:24] <jott> RogueThunder: well go do konsole and do a "ifconfig -a" and see if you got some ethX wlanX wifiX interface
[04:24] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: I smile-napped it, and put it into konversation 0.19's autoreplace
[04:24] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Neeeat... But that worked before to... Activate Session Manager..
[04:24] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Aha
[04:24] <Hagbarddenstore> I prefer Xchat cause I don't know hoiwto mkae scripts for Konversation...
[04:25] <Hagbarddenstore> And Xchat is much nicer to me... =)
[04:25] <RogueThunder> ive got an eth0, which as before im betting is still my dlink wired card, and a eth2, that... i cant realy tell what is
[04:25] <Hagbarddenstore> Hm.. Is there a KDE-ftrontend for MPD ?
[04:25] <RogueThunder> And then my loopback, of course.
[04:26] <Hagbarddenstore> Hm... KDE is quicer than Xfce... hmm?? :S:S
[04:26] <jott> RogueThunder: so try "iwlist eth2 scanning"
[04:26] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: XChat is ick... dunno... look it up in adept or apt-cache search it
[04:26] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Look what up?
[04:26] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[04:26] <supernix> what is the address for pastebin ?
[04:26] <RogueThunder> eth2 no scan results
[04:26] <ravenous> 'iwconfig' will show just wireless connections, if thats what your looking for use that
[04:26] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Original CD...
[04:27] <gregory> czy mwi ktos po polsku tutaj?
[04:27] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: the frontend
[04:27] <ravenous> !pastebin
[04:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:27] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: ah
[04:27] <gregory> czy mwi ktos po polsku tutaj?
[04:27] <ryanakca> !cz
[04:27] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: Ah.. ok
[04:27] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[04:27] <ryanakca> !ru
[04:27] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[04:27] <gregory> czy mwi ktos po polsku tutaj?
[04:27] <gregory_> czy mwi ktos po polsku tutaj?
[04:27] <RogueThunder> Jott: it gives me eth2 no scan results
[04:27] <Hagbarddenstore> gregory_: NOT IN HERE!
[04:27] <jott> RogueThunder: at least it seems to be a wireless card as otherwise it should say "does not support scanning" :)
[04:27] <RogueThunder> XD
[04:28] <RogueThunder> thats... consoling... i think
[04:28] <ryanakca> gregory_: this is an english channel
[04:28] <ravenous> again, iwconfig will tell you whether it is or not
[04:28] <ryanakca> !pl
[04:28] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:28] <RogueThunder> iwconfig does grab eth2 as a wireless card...
[04:28] <DaSkreech> !pl
[04:28] <ryanakca> gregory_:  since your from .pl, I'm guessing that'S polish
[04:28] <ravenous> well it more than likely is then
[04:28] <supernix> ok this is the error I get when I run adept and install something http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22046
[04:28] <jott> so thats  a good start :)
[04:28] <RogueThunder> infact it still has my configuration i set earlier... which... wouldnt make sence
[04:28] <DaSkreech> Damn
[04:29] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: it's because I just said it... look up, 10:28
[04:29] <Hagbarddenstore> Hm... I would need SMP kernel for Core DUo correct?
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Not fast enough
[04:29] <DaSkreech> ryanakca: Yeah yeah I saw :-(
[04:29] <Hagbarddenstore> On the Kubuntu CD... Is there a way to install the SMP kernel directly from the cd?
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Hagbarddenstore: Good guess :)
[04:29] <supernix> any ideas how to fix that ?
[04:29] <Hagbarddenstore> DaSkreech: Hehe ;D
[04:29] <ravenous> Hagbarddenstore: afaik yes, so you need at least the 686 kernel
[04:29] <jott> RogueThunder: so what kind of ap do you use? wpa/wep/vpn stuff? broadcasting? ..you might have to supply the right settings then..
[04:30] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: I was trying to figure out what language it was... russian... czeck... polish
[04:30] <ravenous> Hagbarddenstore: i dont think its on the cd though, probably have to apt-get
[04:30] <DaSkreech> I got olish first but then I was in another room :-(
[04:30] <Hagbarddenstore> ravenous: Ok.. There's a line to write like Server and smp and such at loading Kubuntu live cd right?
[04:30] <ravenous> server yeah, dunno about an smp option
[04:30] <Hagbarddenstore> ravenous: Well... I don't wanna install it after the installation..
[04:30] <supernix> Does anyone know what to do to fix this issue ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22046
[04:30] <ravenous> Hagbarddenstore: why?
[04:30] <RogueThunder> wep, ...
[04:31] <DaSkreech> supernix: Did you press anything?
[04:31] <Hagbarddenstore> ravenous: Well... I just wanna have it up and running quick... SchoolPC...
[04:31] <RogueThunder> its broadcasting...
[04:31] <RogueThunder> um...
[04:31] <supernix> nope
[04:31] <DaSkreech> supernix: It's asking you a question
[04:31] <DaSkreech> You should answer it :)
[04:31] <supernix> It never does anything but exit saying there was a problem
[04:31] <ravenous> Hagbarddenstore: its one apt-get after the initial installation, its not like its time consuming
[04:31] <RogueThunder> it still has my essid i set back when i was troubleshooting before i even tried installing ndiswrapper or this other thing...
[04:31] <Hagbarddenstore> ravenous: Well.. Ok then.. ^^
[04:31] <RogueThunder> which
[04:31] <supernix> Could you tell me the command to do dpkg itself without using adept ?
[04:31] <supernix> maybe that will help
[04:32] <RogueThunder> makes me think its not using the driver i just set cus... i read a very different location to set things in the readme to this... tool
[04:32] <Hagbarddenstore> supernix: dpkg -i thing.deb ?
[04:32] <RogueThunder> Jebus, is there anyway to just... check what driver a device is using?
[04:32] <supernix> what is the command for doing a update though ?
[04:33] <Hagbarddenstore> supernix: man dpkg
[04:33] <jott> RogueThunder: "dmesg" should give you a hint
[04:34] <Hagbarddenstore> Is there a way to make an icon that executes more than one command? as in execute mpd, gmpc and mpdscribble at one click only... ?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> supernix: sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:34] <ravenous> you could try pipes in between the commands in the 'command:' option
[04:34] <DaSkreech> or dist-upgrade if you are going to a new KDE
[04:35] <CVirus> Hagbarddenstore: this is called bash scripting .. or shell scripting .. google about it
[04:35] <RogueThunder> islusb: suitible configuration found for net2280 +pci device sounds like the only such thing
[04:35] <RogueThunder> whcih
[04:35] <Hagbarddenstore> ravenous: | <-- those?
[04:35] <RogueThunder> would probobly be the wrong driver.
[04:35] <ravenous> Hagbarddenstore: yeah, dont know for sure if it will work though like CVirus a bash script may be better
[04:36] <Hagbarddenstore> pipe worked
[04:36] <RogueThunder> Jott: you agree? disagree? clueless? purple?
[04:37] <ravenous> Hagbarddenstore: about the smp all you do is 'sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp' and it will install the newest 686 smp enabled kernel in the repos
[04:37] <Hagbarddenstore> ravenous: Good... =)
[04:37] <Hagbarddenstore> Hm... How the .... do I disable single click?
[04:38] <RogueThunder> ooooh
[04:38] <RogueThunder> i know that one!
[04:38] <RogueThunder> right click your desktop
[04:38] <RogueThunder> and select configure desktop
[04:38] <RogueThunder> er
[04:38] <RogueThunder> i think its somewhere in there XD
[04:39] <RogueThunder> ah
[04:39] <RogueThunder> wrong...
[04:39] <RogueThunder> system settings(in the kmenu thingy
[04:39] <RogueThunder> mouse
[04:39] <RogueThunder> general tab, under icons
[04:40] <Hagbarddenstore> found it in kcontrol already! :D
[04:40] <ravenous> kcontrol is way better ;)
[04:40] <RogueThunder> :P anyway whatever
[04:40] <Hagbarddenstore> Yep! :D
[04:40] <RogueThunder> Jott?
[04:40] <Hagbarddenstore> Ahhh... Love doubleclicking =)
[04:41] <Hagbarddenstore> FInally I can select things again! :D
[04:41] <Hagbarddenstore> Specially in Kopete... =)
[04:41] <ravenous> i got hooked on single click from running elightenment, never really went back
[04:41] <RogueThunder> *laughs* i got hooked on double way back on dosshell
[04:41] <Hagbarddenstore> Kk... Well... I kinda hate not to be able to slect things properly..
[04:42] <RogueThunder> then again, dosshell, is just one s away from...
[04:42] <ravenous> well to each his own but there are settings so after a certain time interval your 'mouse-over' selects the icon .. it is configurable
[04:42] <atidem> hello
[04:42] <ravenous> not most ppl's choice i know
[04:43] <RogueThunder> ... i have trouble with that because im used to doing things faster than that
[04:43] <RogueThunder> tried it once tho
[04:43] <ravenous> yeah, takes some getting used to
[04:44] <jott> RogueThunder: sorry .....so don't know ..
[04:44] <RogueThunder> ah
[04:44] <RogueThunder> ...
[04:44] <jott> so lsusb gives you a device?
[04:44] <RogueThunder> I found this at one point "http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7091.0"
[04:44] <RogueThunder> lsusb does indeed have the card, by id not name
[04:45] <RogueThunder> and, at the same time mysterously thinks my old style, 2 axis trackball is a "Afilas Optical Mouse"
[04:45] <RogueThunder> but thats a minor detail
[04:45] <RogueThunder> the mouse works just fine...
[04:46] <jott> hmm.. soo...
[04:47] <jott> try to replug the card and watch dmesg..
[04:47] <RogueThunder> I like things like my mouse that are strange, but work perfectly.
[04:47] <jott> don't know what else atm
[04:47] <kbrooks> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247202
[04:48] <RogueThunder> i think ill try the thing i found in that one forum, now that i have a properly installed driver
[04:49] <ravenous> my usb gamepad is the same way, totally different brand name for the driver but it runs smooth as glass *shrug*
[04:49] <jake1> where is the kismet.conf file normally located?????????
[04:49] <RogueThunder> yeah see, different brand name i wouldnt be suprised at
[04:49] <RogueThunder> its a very generic mouse
[04:49] <RogueThunder> but were talking complealty different mouse type and hardware
[04:50] <ravenous> thats cool i see they have a contest going for a new k3b theme for 1.0
[04:56] <RogueThunder> WEll
[04:56] <RogueThunder> that certianly didnt work
[04:57] <SonicChao> How do I use KDM's login screen instead of Gnomes?
[04:57] <SonicChao> After installing package kubuntu-desktop?
[04:58] <fdoving> SonicChao: run this command from konsole: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm'
[04:58] <fdoving> SonicChao: then choose kdm as default.
[04:58] <SonicChao> fdoving: Does it matter if I use gnome-terminal? I'm not in KDE ATM.
[04:59] <RogueThunder> So jott, you dont happen to have any ideas at this point...
[04:59] <RogueThunder> like things to randomly try and pray they work
[04:59] <fdoving> SonicChao: doesn't matter-
[04:59] <SonicChao> Ok...lets see if it works.
[05:00] <jott> RogueThunder: did you try to look at dmesg?
[05:00] <RogueThunder> yes... and told you what it says that is of note i could find
[05:00] <jott> so after replugging it?
[05:01] <RogueThunder> the entirety...
[05:01] <RogueThunder> usb 4-1: usb disconnect, adress 4
[05:01] <SonicChao> fdoving: No, that didn't work. I want the login screen to change.
[05:02] <RogueThunder> usb 4-1: new high speed usb device using ehcihd and adress 5
[05:02] <RogueThunder> islusb suitible configuration found for net2280 +pci device
[05:02] <jott> hm ok
[05:02] <RogueThunder> and then scedualing int bh
[05:02] <RogueThunder> twice
[05:02] <fdoving> SonicChao: it does, you have to restart to check if it worked.
[05:02] <pointwood> hrm...where do I find keyboard shortcuts?
[05:02] <SonicChao> fdoving: Er, ok.
[05:03] <RogueThunder> oh and bunches apon bunches of numbers to the left of that, but i figure thats unrelated realy
[05:03] <Jucato> pointwood: System Settings > Regional and Accessibility
[05:03] <pointwood> ahh...there
[05:03] <pointwood> thx
[05:03] <jott> RogueThunder: that are timestamps
[05:03] <RogueThunder> yeah, exaclty
[05:04] <Jucato> Keyboard shortcuts for general global shortcuts, command shortcuts, and application shortcuts
[05:04] <RogueThunder> nothing we care about
[05:04] <Jucato> Input actions for everything else...
[05:05] <jott> RogueThunder: http://prism54.org/newdrivers.html ok watch this
[05:06] <jott> there is your net2280
[05:06] <RogueThunder> ?
[05:06] <SonicChao> fdoving: Ok, ty. =)
[05:06] <RogueThunder> I know the card is a first gen prism 54 according to that site...
[05:07] <RogueThunder> and was at one point trying to install(well... never got anywhere but lol, the files are around) their driver
[05:07] <jott> RogueThunder: well those seem to be the one for you after all
[05:08] <RogueThunder> my card is the "1915	2234	Linksys WUSB54G OEM	NET2280, ISL3880/ISL3886?" thats untested according to taht
[05:08] <jott> hm ;)
[05:08] <RogueThunder> I have no clue how i got a oem in full retail packaging... but hey whatever.
[05:10] <jott> RogueThunder: well try it out i would say ;)
[05:10] <RogueThunder> Is that a good hm, or a indifferent hm, or a hm your outa luck realy.
[05:10] <RogueThunder> ... i got lost in the install of those drivers
[05:10] <RogueThunder> couldnt understand the directions
[05:11] <jott> well download, tar xfj them, make them and hope it works ;p
[05:11] <RogueThunder> ive got islsm-workbench-latest.tar.bz2... and no clue where to go from there, although i DO have the firmware file thats correct for my card
[05:11] <RogueThunder> placed in the folder they directed me to
[05:12] <RogueThunder> tar xfj them?
[05:12] <jott> tar xfj islsm-workbench-latest.tar.bz2
[05:12] <jott> best do this in a temp dir
[05:12] <RogueThunder> ah... right
[05:14] <RogueThunder> that did absolutely, nothing
[05:14] <RogueThunder> waoit
[05:14] <RogueThunder> no
[05:14] <RogueThunder> it just did it so fast
[05:14] <RogueThunder> i couldnt tell
[05:14] <RogueThunder> wow
[05:14] <RogueThunder> uh
[05:14] <RogueThunder> wow
[05:14] <jott> it extracted the archive ;)
[05:14] <RogueThunder> that normaly takes a few seconds
[05:14] <RogueThunder> it took less than a second
[05:15] <jott> well make sure you have done "sudo aptitude install build-essentials linux-headers"
[05:15] <Hawkwind> If you do tar xjvf  you would get verbose output and see what it does
[05:15] <RogueThunder> build essentials i know i have, did it ages ago
[05:15] <jott> you probably need kernel headers too
[05:15] <RogueThunder> but yeah kh i dont
[05:15] <jott> as you are going to build a module
[05:16] <jott> its actually linux-kernel-headers i think
[05:16] <RogueThunder> it accepted linux-headers
[05:16] <RogueThunder> i think
[05:16] <RogueThunder> ... no it did nothing
[05:16] <RogueThunder> vrooom
[05:16] <RogueThunder> there it goes
[05:17] <RogueThunder> Its cool, when my cd drive and hdd spin up together, they make the "Vrooooooom" sound
[05:17] <RogueThunder> like an expensive sports car does going 90+mph in a 45mph zone.
[05:18] <jott> hehe remembers me of the good old 1541 floppy sounds ;p
[05:18] <RogueThunder> ok... now that i have the headers installed
[05:18] <ubuntu_> WITAM WSZYSTKICH
[05:18] <RogueThunder> I cant wait till i get my 15krpm 36gb hdd installed ^.^
[05:18] <jott> try to do "make" in the dir you did that tar xfj
[05:18] <DaSkreech> Hi kbrooks
[05:18] <cannonball> Is that scsi or ide?
[05:18] <ubuntu_> HELLO
[05:18] <RogueThunder> Bash: make: command not found
[05:18] <RogueThunder> scsi
[05:18] <RogueThunder> lol
[05:18] <RogueThunder> as almost every 15krpm hdd is
[05:19] <ubuntu_> AND PLESY HELP
[05:19] <ubuntu_> LEASE HELP
[05:19] <Jucato> RogueThunder: you need to install "build-essential"
[05:19] <cannonball> jott: And the amazing speed at which it loaded files (1K per second IIRC).
[05:19] <ubuntu_> PLEASE HELP MY
[05:19] <RogueThunder> O.o weird cus i would swear i did earlier
[05:19] <Hawkwind> ubuntu_: Ask your question
[05:19] <Jucato> ubuntu_: please drop the CAPS
[05:19] <Jucato> and ask away
[05:19] <cannonball> ubuntu_: You haven't asked a question yet.
[05:19] <jott> cannonball: hehe well don't forget the speed of those datasette tapes
[05:20] <cannonball> jott: I had very conveniently pushed that out of conscious thought.  Thanks a LOT  ;-)
[05:21] <RogueThunder> I actualy own a 1 speed cd burner.
[05:21] <RogueThunder> Which doesnt support rws.
[05:21] <cannonball> RogueThunder: Time for an upgrade methinks.
[05:21] <RogueThunder> haha
[05:21] <RogueThunder> its not in anything
[05:21] <jott> well after you first could "see" the data in terms of punch cards you could at least "hear" the data from there on ;)
[05:21] <RogueThunder> its on my shelf as a musem peice
[05:22] <SonicChao> Can I make Konversation use a tree instead of tabs?
[05:22] <SonicChao> These tabs are getting really small since I'm in a lot of chans
[05:22] <DaSkreech> A tree?
[05:22] <RogueThunder> ummmm
[05:23] <cannonball> RogueThunder: my little brother still has a working C-64.  It's not _useful_, but it still works.
[05:23] <Jucato> SonicChao: only in Konversation 1.0
[05:23] <SonicChao> DaSkreech: Like XChat's.
[05:23] <Jucato> which will be made available soon in dapper-backports
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Ah Ok :-)
[05:23] <SonicChao> Jucato: =(
[05:23] <Jucato> soon... very soon....
[05:23] <RogueThunder> "Make: *** [madwifi]  Error 2"
[05:23] <jott> cannonball: well there are actually tcp/ip stack implementations out there ;)
[05:23] <SonicChao> So what do I do if I have a lot of channels open?
[05:23] <Jucato> SonicChao: you probably just have to count days...
[05:23] <jott> cannonball: so it would make a nice chat terminal ;)
[05:23] <SonicChao> >>;
[05:23] <Jucato> hmm... wait?
[05:24] <RogueThunder> something about /lib/moduels/2.6.15-26-386/build does not exist. stop
[05:24] <jott> oh
[05:24] <jott> you need..
[05:24] <jott> another package
[05:24] <SonicChao> I might as well use XChat then.
[05:24] <RogueThunder> yeah... thats nice
[05:24] <RogueThunder> the question is, what package...
[05:24] <Jucato> SonicChao: your call. I'll notify you ASAP if it's available in dapper-backports already
[05:24] <SonicChao> RogueThunder: I heard that madwifi's package is currently broken
[05:24] <SonicChao> Jucato: Ok.
[05:25] <RogueThunder> Well, thats nice...
[05:25] <whizz-> can i create a linux / windows (98) dual boot, when having linux installed first? (so.. linux is on my hd already and i want to install win on it as well)
[05:25] <Jucato> whizz-: is Linux sitting on the first partition of the hard drive?
[05:25] <jott> RogueThunder: it should  be in linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:26] <whizz-> Jucato: yes
[05:26] <Jucato> hm... I don't know about that then... I think XP always wants to be in the first partition.
[05:27] <RogueThunder> jott: eh???
[05:27] <Jucato> but I think it can be fooled by GRUB into thinking that it's in the first partition.
[05:27] <_lupine> XP doesn't like being so many GB after the start of the dic it's installed on
[05:27] <_lupine> disc*
[05:27] <_lupine> it can be in not-the-first-partition though, I think
[05:27] <jott> RogueThunder: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:28] <jott> (where uname -r gives your kernel version)
[05:28] <RogueThunder> what symbol is that around uname -r?
[05:28] <jott> so linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 should work too ;)
[05:28] <cannonball> whizz-: Windows (any flavor) doesn't like to be on a partition that is _after_ some partition type it doesn't know.  So really only a vfat or ntfs (any of the various versions) can exist before the XP one.
[05:28] <_lupine> 98 will run anywhere :)
[05:28] <jott> well it means "evaluate the command and give it as string"
[05:28] <RogueThunder> i mean on the keyboard
[05:28] <whizz-> but speaking about XP...
[05:29] <cannonball> RogueThunder: the backtick
[05:29] <RogueThunder> ah
[05:29] <Jucato> jott: I think the command would be "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[05:29] <cannonball> RogueThunder: typically it's to the left of the 1 key.
[05:29] <cannonball> Jucato: that works the same, yes.
[05:29] <jott> Jucato: well its more bash-like this way... ;)
[05:29] <RogueThunder> jap 106/107 keyboard :P
[05:29] <cannonball> Jucato: the difference is the $() can be nested, `` cannot.
[05:30] <RogueThunder> ... "install: missing destination file operand after `linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386`"
[05:30] <Jucato> aaah. I think the ` can be easily mistaken for '
[05:31] <RogueThunder> I found my ` btw, its a shift-function if the key right of my p on my jap keyboard ^.^
[05:31] <jott> RogueThunder: just do "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386" ..
[05:31] <Jucato> jap board... japanese?
[05:31] <whizz-> does anybody happen to know what happens when i install xp, clone the drive it is on and reset the clone after 30 days... would that reset the 30 day xp trail period?
[05:32] <RawSewage> in Konqueror, when you see folders in Detail view, how do you configure it so it shows how much data is in the folderse
[05:32] <RawSewage> The Size is messed up
[05:32] <RawSewage> it only shows the Size of the folder itself
[05:32] <RogueThunder> My sony laptop keyboard died ages ago, well it was outright falling apart
[05:32] <RawSewage> not whats in the folder
[05:32] <RogueThunder> and i have been learning japanese a while
[05:32] <RogueThunder> so, for the replacement i ordered the japanese version, being its of an alternate qwerty setup
[05:32] <RogueThunder> its interesting
[05:33] <RogueThunder> a bit strange at times
[05:33] <RogueThunder> but usefull
[05:33] <Jucato> RawSewage: is it really supposed to display that way?
[05:33] <RogueThunder> @ for instance... is they key right next to p
[05:33] <RawSewage> does anyone understand my question
[05:34] <RawSewage> Jucato, folders are supposed to show the size of the folder, that is:  the total bytes of content in the folders
[05:34] <RawSewage> not the total bytes of the folder itslef  (i.e. 4 kb)
[05:34] <jott> RogueThunder: they are not supposed to do this ;)
[05:34] <RawSewage> why would I care how big the folder itself is (i.e. all are about  4 kb)
[05:34] <whizz-> diff question: can i move an entire linux install to for instance a second partition? or do i have to reinstall for that?
[05:34] <jott> RawSewage: ...
[05:35] <RawSewage> jott, no, it's not a ...   It's a legitimate feature requeset
[05:35] <RawSewage> dont give me that Linux attitude
[05:35] <RawSewage> I think GNOME does it
[05:35] <Jucato> RawSewage: I think the Detailed view shows how big a file is. it so happens that a folder is just a file
[05:35] <RawSewage> whatever file manager they use
[05:36] <Jucato> RawSewage: GNOME does it even using Konqueror? anyways, let me check...
[05:36] <RawSewage> no
[05:36] <RogueThunder> An example, though missing the hirigana tertiary functions, http://www.goldenshop.com.hk/AI-trad/gc/hard/keyjoyj.gif
[05:36] <RawSewage> using the file manager GNOME usese
 whatever file manager they use <---
[05:36] <RawSewage> yes
[05:36] <RawSewage> whatever file manager GNOME uses
[05:36] <RawSewage> you know what I mean
[05:36] <_lupine> nautilus
[05:36] <RawSewage> yeah
[05:36] <_lupine> yuk ;)
[05:36] <Jucato> ok, it was just a bit ambiguous
[05:37] <RawSewage> and dare I say it
[05:37] <RawSewage> Windows does it too
[05:37] <RawSewage> IM sure KDE does it
[05:37] <RawSewage> I just want to know what to configure
[05:37] <RogueThunder> Ok.... jott, make worked now.
[05:37] <Jucato> Don't Windows and Nautilus only do that in Icon view?
[05:37] <_lupine> it does it in detailed as well (konq.)
[05:38] <RawSewage> no, Windows does it in detail
[05:38] <RawSewage> hm
[05:38] <_lupine> TBH, the present way is faster
[05:38] <RawSewage> _lupine, does what
[05:38] <_lupine> display 400B or so for the folder size
[05:38] <RogueThunder> Jott: baring in mind im a linux newb with 2hrs 15 min of sleep, what do i do now? XD
[05:38] <RawSewage> in Detail view, all I see is 4kb for every folder
[05:39] <Xcalibur> hey
[05:39] <Jucato> it's only displaying the size of the folder "file"...
[05:39] <RawSewage> I should be able to see the total kb contained in that folder
[05:39] <Xcalibur> can I resize my windows partition(FAT32), its 9gb, it have like 4.88gb free, is there any way to make another partition for kubuntu?
[05:39] <RawSewage> ok, so no one knows
[05:40] <jott> RogueThunder: hmm don't know.. try "sudo make load" apparentely the wiki of those wifi guys is borken
[05:40] <jott> so i can't tell you more ,)
[05:40] <Xcalibur> anyone?
[05:41] <Jucato> RawSewage: we're trying. we're not all-knowing, you know....
[05:41] <jott> RawSewage: so this would mean it has to recurse into the folder in full depth..
[05:41] <RogueThunder> oooh oooh i know atleast part of teh solution to one of these errors...
[05:41] <_lupine> RawSewage: to me, that's the best option
[05:41] <jott> RawSewage: in normal use cases this would be pointless
[05:41] <_lupine> Going into /usr/bin is slow enough already
[05:41] <_lupine> I'd hate for /usr to be even slower
[05:41] <RawSewage> Um
[05:41] <jott> RawSewage: you could right click and do "properties"
[05:41] <RawSewage> ALL file managers except Konq apparently do this
[05:41] <Xcalibur> ?
[05:41] <RogueThunder> "Fatal: moduel firmware_class not found." and "Fatal: Moduel crc32 not found."
[05:41] <RawSewage> this isnt some rare magical feature, folks
[05:42] <RawSewage> So Im sure Konq does it
[05:42] <RawSewage> I just want to know how
[05:42] <RawSewage> fine, you dont know.  thanks anyway
[05:42] <RogueThunder> Im guessing the first part means i need to tell it where to find the firmware file... i forget what walkthrough told me to put in an incredibly spesific location i had to learn how to create
[05:42] <RogueThunder> but the second part totaly puzzles me
[05:43] <Xcalibur> can I resize my windows partition(FAT32), its 9gb, it have like 4.88gb free, is there any way to make another partition for kubuntu?
[05:43] <Xcalibur> ?
[05:44] <_lupine> Xcalibur: FIPS
[05:44] <_lupine> (if you're in Windows/DOS now)
[05:44] <Xcalibur> whats that?
[05:44] <Xcalibur> I'm in WinXP
[05:44] <Xcalibur> I could open command promt tho?
[05:44] <RogueThunder> jott: http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/index.html i belive was it, found through exploring their forums
[05:45] <_lupine> program called FIPS will non-destructively resize FAT32 partitions
[05:45] <Jucato> lol! while searching for an answer to RawSewage, I found an answer to my own question...
[05:45] <_lupine> It's on Google somewhere; I don't know if you'll need to be in a pure-DOS mode though!
[05:46] <RawSewage> Jucato, Im glad I could be of service
[05:46] <Jucato> RawSewage: I'm still searching
[05:46] <_lupine> (obviously, XP doesn't have one of those, so it'd be reboot-with-old-floppy time)
[05:46] <RogueThunder> my card, and its twin, are both first gen, and i have the firmware it says to put somewhere where it says to put it.
[05:46] <jott> RogueThunder: whee well this looks bad :/ as crc32 is a stack kernel module (maybe its statically in the ubuntu kernel?!)
[05:46] <RawSewage> I have trouble verbalizing my questions
[05:46] <RogueThunder> jott: O.o
[05:47] <_lupine> RogueThunder: /lib/firmware maybe?
[05:47] <RogueThunder> Jott: Bad as in another long sidetrack bad, or bad as in forget the install your... ... ... bad?
[05:47] <jott> RogueThunder: so.. don't think this can be solved easily.. probably its really broken as stated earlier :(
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Which question?
[05:47] <RogueThunder> Jott: Well thats just great...
[05:47] <Jucato> DaSkreech: my question? why some files have previews in Icon View,while other don't....
[05:48] <DaSkreech> What's the answer to that?
[05:48] <RogueThunder> All i wanted to do... was throw together a slave machine... -.-
[05:48] <RogueThunder> Jott: Well, might there be atleast a wireless card that can be suggested that works outa the box as automaticaly and trouble-free as possible?...
[05:48] <jott> RogueThunder: well i guess the easiest think would be to buy a usb stick that is supported by ubuntu out of the box for 20 bucks ;)
[05:48] <jott> RogueThunder: ah same idea ;)
[05:49] <RogueThunder> XD
[05:49] <RogueThunder> Jott: ive yet to find any kind of list including such
[05:49] <ravenous> anything atheros based has very good support for linux
[05:49] <jott> well maybe somebody in here knows of one?!
[05:49] <RogueThunder> -.-
[05:49] <ravenous> any brand, as long as the chipset is atheros
[05:49] <RogueThunder> ive even found someone on the forum that supposedly has my exact card working
[05:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: Settings > Configure Konqueror > Previews and Meta-data > Maximum File Size. any file larger than the maximum filesize won't get a preview, except for videos, I think
[05:50] <Xtreem> sorry about that
[05:50] <Xtreem> gay fricken wireless connectiom
[05:50] <Xtreem> connection*
[05:50] <Xtreem> anyway
[05:50] <RogueThunder> ravenous: Any common ones? I dont realy care if its wireless b or g, it just needs to connect...
[05:50] <buz> !tuxguardian
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuxguardian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <RogueThunder> Not like im ever going to break the needs of 11b 14ft away from my router that is on hybrid mode for other reasons.
[05:51] <ravenous> RogueThunder: i dont know offhand i dont have one just google for 'wireless nic atheros chipset'
[05:51] <Xtreem> can a operator boot Xcalibur plz, thats me, my wireless connection broke, plz?
[05:51] <Xtreem> and
[05:51] <Xtreem> I need to find out what FIPS is?
[05:51] <ravenous> Xtreem: if your registered as that nick you can use 'ghost' to boot it
[05:51] <Xtreem> o
[05:51] <Xtreem> ok
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[05:51] <Xtreem> ghost
[05:51] <_lupine> Xtreem: google for "FIPS"
[05:51] <Xtreem> ok
[05:51] <hryniewicki> hj
[05:51] <Xtreem> how i use ghost?
[05:52] <_lupine> "first interactive (non-destructive)  partition splitter" is the full name, IIRC
[05:52] <Jucato> Xtreem: Xcalibur is gone
[05:52] <Xtreem> ok
[05:52] <Xtreem> thnx
[05:52] <jott> haha non-destructive.. ;)
[05:52] <ravenous> and /msg nickserv help for instructions on using ghsot
[05:52] <RogueThunder> theres a stickied topic
[05:53] <RogueThunder> i never ran into in my searching
[05:53] <jott> :p
[05:53] <RogueThunder> ": How to install WUSB54G for Dapper Drake  (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)"
[05:53] <RogueThunder> take a guess my model...
[05:53] <RogueThunder> take ONE guess
[05:53] <ninHer_> hi all
[05:53] <az_> hi ninHer
[05:54] <RogueThunder> first post is for version 4... not v1
[05:54] <_lupine> FIPS is incredibly good
[05:54] <RogueThunder> v4 is a totaly different chipset... *sighs*
[05:54] <_lupine> just remember to defrag before you use it
[05:54] <_lupine> The v4 is the ralink one?
[05:56] <Xtreem> where can i get fips, now that I know what it is
[05:56] <RogueThunder> dont recall offhand
[05:56] <RogueThunder> ive got the oem varinet of the v1
[05:56] <RogueThunder> so
[05:56] <RogueThunder> it didnt realy stick to my mind
[05:57] <RawSewage> Jucato, DaSkreech, thx anyway.  I guess Konq doesnt have that feature yet
[05:57] <Jucato> RawSewage: probably not
[05:58] <_lupine> that "feature" :)
[05:58] <RogueThunder> Jott: I suspect it can be made work with ndiswrapper... but i have to much akin to the v4 blacklist some driver that trys to load
[05:58] <Xtreem> hey, _lupine, where can I get this fips?
[05:58] <RogueThunder> Jott: it also indeed seems to be a new issue thanks to dapper drake... -.-
[05:58] <_lupine> No idea. Like I said, it should show up in Google
[05:59] <_lupine> Old Linux distro CDs also used to have it as well
[05:59] <Xtreem> ok
[05:59] <jott> RogueThunder: hehe well i had the luck that my wlan worked out of the box :p
[05:59] <_lupine> (Red Hat 6 is where I first found it)
[05:59] <Xtreem> i'm gonna look some more
[05:59] <_lupine> !fips
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <_lupine> bah
[05:59] <_lupine> Atheros and ralink are the two best-supported chipsets right now
[05:59] <ravenous> 'FIPS' download in google brings up tons of links
[05:59] <_lupine> (I've got some of both)
[05:59] <RogueThunder> Jott: which would that happen to be?
[06:00] <jott> RogueThunder: oh its an onboard card intel pro wireless
[06:01] <jott> and i got a prism pcmcia and an orinoco pcmcia card both working in an ipaq with linux ;)
[06:02] <jott> but those are a few years old ;)
[06:02] <RogueThunder> My card is bloody ancient.
[06:02] <RogueThunder> but lol
[06:02] <jott> so its still "lucent" branded ;)
[06:02] <Xtreem> i found FIPS, can I run the .exe like right in windows, or does it require me to be in DOS mode?
[06:02] <RogueThunder> its the absolute first gen linksys 802.11g usb card
[06:03] <RogueThunder> Well... i wish there was some way to identify the exact driver its currently loading, so i could blacklist it...
[06:04] <_lupine> probably DOS mode
[06:04] <_lupine> they mnight have updated it, but better safe than sorry
[06:04] <Jucato> bye guys! time for bed...
[06:04] <RogueThunder> ATLEAST i kow HOW to blacklist it.
[06:04] <ravenous> RogueThunder: and you've checked dmesg? it should show what driver is being loaded
[06:05] <Xtreem> I have the .exe, how I get it so it can run right off a floppy?
[06:05] <Xtreem> and how much room should i leave around the windows partition for win to operate comfortably?
[06:05] <_lupine> youll need a floppy that will boot in DOS mode; then you just copy it straight to it
[06:05] <Jucato> RawSewage: sorry I couldn't find anything about your problem. you could try asking in #kde. but wherever you ask, I think people would appreciate it if you were less impatient and less demanding
[06:05] <ravenous> Xtreem: install wine and mount the floppy, then 'wine /mnt/floppy/blah.exe'
[06:05] <_lupine> ravenous: not quite ;)
[06:06] <_lupine> windows doesn't need wine...
[06:06] <Xtreem> yeah
[06:06] <RogueThunder> Ravenous: Infortunately, not accuratley.
[06:06] <Xtreem> lol
[06:06] <ravenous> i thought he was talking about linux
[06:06] <_lupine> I know :)
[06:06] <ravenous> cd a: and run the exes jebus
[06:06] <RawSewage> Jucato, I am.  I get tired of people telling me Im wrong for wanting such and such a feature
[06:06] <_lupine> not even close
[06:06] <_lupine> Xtreem: open up a command-line box ("cmd.exe"), and try "sys a:"
[06:06] <RogueThunder> Ravenous: atleast, so it appears
[06:06] <Xtreem> ok
[06:06] <RawSewage> And what a horrible stupid person I am for asking about such a feature
[06:06] <_lupine> that's what it was on ye anciente 9x architecture
[06:06] <RawSewage> how dare I ask for such a feature
[06:07] <Jucato> RawSewage: you're not wrong, and it's not stupid
[06:07] <_lupine> indeed :)
[06:07] <ravenous> so click on properties
[06:07] <Xtreem> it said it was not a command
[06:07] <_lupine> so XP/NT doesn't do that
[06:07] <_lupine> OK, you're going to need to find a bootable disc image
[06:07] <ravenous> or any of the windows cds
[06:08] <_lupine> will it give real-mode?
[06:08] <_lupine> (I'm a bit out of date when it comes to Windows)
[06:08] <_lupine> 8 years!
[06:08] <Jucato> RawSewage: who knows.. it might be some hidden feature...
[06:08] <Jucato> anyway, good luck in your search!
[06:08] <RawSewage> ty
[06:09] <aseigo> RawSewage: descending into folders recursively to find the size is not fast
[06:09] <aseigo> RawSewage: in fact, it's the opposite of fast ;)
[06:09] <Xtreem> is there a bootable image for blank CD-r's?
[06:09] <ravenous> if fips is anything like partition magic you can just boot off the windows cd and do it there
[06:09] <RawSewage> aseigo, I never said it was fast
[06:09] <_lupine> it's nothing like partition magic :)
[06:09] <_lupine> still, worth a try
[06:09] <_lupine> (you do have a backup, right, Xtreem?)
[06:09] <Xtreem> i don't have my win CD
[06:10] <_lupine> ah :)
[06:10] <Xtreem> no
[06:10] <aseigo> RawSewage: that's why konq doesn't provide such things in it's listviews... a way around that would be to asyncronously update those stats so you could sit and stare at your screen while it hums away ... would still probalby need/want to be it's own view...
[06:10] <_lupine> oh!
[06:10] <Xtreem> but i don't care if i mess up
[06:10] <Xtreem> i mess up, I just install kubuntu
[06:10] <aseigo> RawSewage: in which case, you may want to select the "File size view" instead of the list views
[06:10] <Xtreem> lol
[06:10] <aseigo> RawSewage: (or the radial view if you have filelight installed)
[06:10] <aseigo> RawSewage: both give you what you are looking for
[06:11] <Xtreem> in this tutorial in getting ready to use FIPs, it sais to defragment, thats what I'm doing now, to make sure that all my winxp files have been moved to the front of the drive
[06:11] <RawSewage> no, not filesize
[06:11] <RawSewage> thats like a graphical thing
[06:11] <ravenous> www.bootdisk.com if you need a fresh boot image
[06:11] <Xtreem> ok
[06:11] <Xtreem> than
[06:11] <Xtreem> thanx8
[06:11] <RawSewage> Im simply asking for the feature that every other file manager has
[06:11] <Xtreem> thanx*****
[06:11] <_lupine> that'll do it :)
[06:11] <RawSewage> that shows a folder size in list view
[06:11] <_lupine> I just found http://bootmaster.filerecovery.biz/bm_rescue.html but not as good
[06:12] <_lupine> RawSewage: presumably the developers of konq. don't see it as a feature
[06:12] <_lupine> I know I don't
[06:12] <RawSewage> ok
[06:12] <RawSewage> I guess theyre better than me
[06:12] <Xtreem> so, i was the DOS boot disks?
[06:12] <Xtreem> dos 6.22?
[06:12] <RawSewage> I'm a failure as a human being
[06:12] <RawSewage> for wanting such a feature
[06:12] <_lupine> Xtreem: that'll do fine
[06:13] <Xtreem> ok
[06:13] <Xtreem> it gives me a .exe file, I just put that on there?
[06:13] <_lupine> it's a .exe so presumably you just put a blank floppy in the drive and run it
[06:14] <_lupine> then afterwards, you should be able to open it up in explorer and copy fips over
[06:14] <_lupine> (if there's not enough room, delete anything except command.com, config.sys or msdos.sys)
[06:14] <_lupine> oh, or io.sys
[06:14] <Xtreem> well, I don't have a floppy drive, just a CD drive
[06:14] <_lupine> ...ah
[06:14] <Xtreem> is there a way to get it to boot from thag
[06:14] <Xtreem> that*
[06:15] <_lupine> Try one of the bootable CDs
[06:15] <RogueThunder> ooooh
[06:15] <_lupine> and leave the fips files somewhere conspicuous on the HD
[06:15] <Xtreem> like in the root of the C:\ drive
[06:16] <Xtreem> somewhere like c:\fips-20\
[06:16] <RogueThunder> highly detailed and easy to follow guide spesificaly for my model! this *should* work...
[06:16] <_lupine> exactly
[06:17] <Xtreem> well, I just burn the .exe to a blank Cd?
[06:17] <_lupine> no
[06:18] <_lupine> ok, you need to find a method to get your computer to boot up in DOS mode
[06:18] <_lupine> a bootable CD *image* would do that
[06:18] <_lupine> and you'd burn it as an image (aka. an iso ) using... well, whatever you have
[06:18] <Xtreem> where may i find the image I'm looking for, thats under 700MB
[06:18] <_lupine> I don't know
[06:19] <_lupine> I've not used any of this stuff for 7 years
[06:19] <_lupine> Just google for "bootable CD image" and see what comes up
[06:19] <Xtreem> couldn't i just boot up with F8
[06:19] <Xtreem> and select DOS mode
[06:19] <Xtreem> ?
[06:19] <_lupine> XP doesn't have that?
[06:19] <Xtreem> o
[06:19] <Xtreem> shit
[06:19] <Xtreem> damn
[06:19] <_lupine> XP is crap ;)
[06:19] <Xtreem> i thought i was on a roll
[06:19] <Xtreem> lol
[06:19] <RogueThunder> puppy linux is prehaps the most awsome bootible linux disk... *laughs*
[06:20] <RogueThunder> i couldnt resist mentioning it...
[06:20] <Xtreem> well, I guess i'm gonna need to find a bootable .iso
[06:20] <_lupine> The easiest way to do this, IMO, is to backup your FAT32 drive and use the linux partitioner to delete the current partition, and make two new ones (one fat32, one for linux). Then you can just restore back on to it once you're finished
[06:21] <_lupine> you should have a backup anyway ;)
[06:21] <RawSewage> I dont understand how Apple's new Time Machine is going to work
[06:21] <RogueThunder> I wish i was good with programming things... i want to make a fully featured rippoff of brutal file manager... with multiplayer!
[06:21] <RawSewage> how does it save your computer's state every single day
[06:21] <jott> Xtreem: you could always try http://www.bootdisk.com/
[06:21] <RawSewage> wouldnt that require a mega huge hard drive
[06:21] <RogueThunder> Where you can walk around the internet *laughs*
[06:21] <RawSewage> to store copies of everything every single day
[06:22] <RogueThunder> And websites show up as like... buildings
[06:22] <RawSewage> 404 will confuse them
[06:22] <hryniewicki> m
[06:22] <_lupine> RawSewage, presumably it's incremental backup
[06:22] <RawSewage> use 404
[06:22] <_lupine> 403
[06:22] <RawSewage> _lupine, I dont know what that is
[06:22] <_lupine> it's there, but not accessible
[06:22] <_lupine> it's where you store a record of the changes
[06:22] <_lupine> rather than a copy of each revision
[06:22] <RawSewage> oh
[06:22] <Xtreem> ok
[06:22] <Xtreem> i found one
[06:23] <_lupine> great space savings on desktop PCs, where the major chunk of HD space is taken up by static video, image, etc
[06:23] <_lupine> (only the first backup is huge ;) )
[06:23] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: It saves all changes to each file on the file system
[06:23] <kilrae> 403 is what you're _supposed_ to give, but then again, sometimes you don't even want people to know that the article exists
[06:23] <RawSewage> kilrae, thats why I said 404.  throw them off
[06:23] <jott> _lupine: funny think would be if you move an video from one partition to another all the time ;)
[06:23] <_lupine> but you don't want people emailing you saying "dudz0r, j00r site sux0rz" ;
[06:24] <hryniewicki> #ubuntu.pl
[06:24] <_lupine> because that's what'll happen if people find broken links
[06:24] <_lupine> (which is what a 404 will imply)
[06:24] <RawSewage> Can K/Ubuntu implement a Time Machine feature
[06:24] <kilrae> i could just do it properly and have the option of replacing the 403 page with a 404 lookalike if a client doesn't want 403 errors to come up
[06:24] <jott> _lupine: you could redirect them to the homepage to annoy them ;)
[06:24] <_lupine> RawSewage: look up rsync
[06:24] <RawSewage> ok
[06:24] <_lupine> jott: true :)
[06:25] <RawSewage> I figured Linux already did it
[06:25] <_lupine> I actually do that on my sites (redirect to homepage)
[06:25] <_lupine> ...mostly because I can't be bothered writing error messages! ;)
[06:25] <RogueThunder> OOOOOOOOOOOOOH!
[06:26] <RogueThunder> Jott: Methinks, its about to start working now.
[06:26] <Xtreem> I have a cool error message on my server :-P
[06:26] <jott> RogueThunder: oh nice ;)
[06:26] <RogueThunder> Jott: Much has changed now that i did what this walkthrough says
[06:26] <jott> RogueThunder: so you beat ndiswrapper?
[06:26] <Xtreem> http://0ptix.co.nr/poop/
[06:26] <RogueThunder> Jott: beat? embrased!
[06:26] <kilrae> well, the 404 would probably say something about logging in and trying again
[06:26] <RawSewage> _lupine,  ??  rsync doesnt look like Time MAchine at all.   "rsync is a program that allows files to be copied to and from remote machines in much the same way as rcp. "
[06:27] <_lupine> RawSewage: works well here
[06:27] <Xtreem> brb
[06:27] <jott> RogueThunder: hehe ;) don't be to nice to it.. it will load evil windows driver ;>
[06:27] <_lupine> I've got incremental backups of my server PC going back months
[06:27] <Xtreem> I g2g burn the image
[06:27] <RogueThunder> Jott: Its no longer mysterously eth2, its eth1 right after eth0(my dlink wired card that will probobly never be used unless i use this computer as a bridge)
[06:27] <RawSewage> _lupine, are you sure it's rsync
[06:27] <_lupine> yep
[06:27] <jott> RogueThunder: fine
[06:27] <RawSewage> ok
[06:27] <_lupine> in true linux style, you need to tell it what to do, of course
[06:28] <RawSewage> _lupine, do you do daily backups?
[06:28] <jott> RawSewage: it not rsync its rdiff ;)
[06:28] <RawSewage> hm ok
[06:28] <RawSewage> thx
[06:28] <_lupine> rdiff is just a wrapper for rsync ?
[06:28] <_lupine> (I thought)
[06:28] <jott> or even "rdiff-backup"
[06:28] <RawSewage> looks like it's already isntalled
[06:28] <_lupine> backups are every few days
[06:29] <_lupine> midn you, the server's on a 4.3GB hard drive, so even full backups wouldn't exactly be huge!
[06:29] <fdoving> rdiff-backup is nice, even nicer when run from backupninja.
[06:29] <RawSewage> so
[06:29] <peanutb> how would you set up rdiff backups?
[06:29] <RawSewage> how do I begin
[06:29] <RawSewage> rtfm?
[06:29] <fdoving> peanutb: use backupninja.
[06:29] <_lupine> pretty much :)
[06:29] <peanutb> ok
[06:29] <ravenous> and run rdiff-backup?
[06:30] <RogueThunder> Jott: do you happen to remember the thing to add before your wep code if its ascii?
[06:30] <_lupine> s: ?
[06:30] <RogueThunder> thanks
[06:30] <RogueThunder> ^.^
[06:31] <jott> i don't trust wep anyway ;) using openvpn
[06:35] <RogueThunder> Jott: *groan* it doesnt work... but it definatley is closer.
[06:35] <jott> :/
[06:35] <Xtreem> back
[06:35] <RogueThunder> Jott: i just use wep as a basic password, i dont expect anyone with half a clue to even try through it
[06:35] <Xtreem> ok, still defragging
[06:35] <Xtreem> got the image burned
[06:35] <RogueThunder> Jott: my wireless network reaches a whole 14ft past our property... we live on a full acre XD
[06:36] <Xtreem> now, after I install kubuntu on the second partition, how will I select the OS I want to boot too?
[06:36] <xwolf-> grub will be installed
[06:36] <Xtreem> o
[06:36] <jott> RogueThunder: THEY are watching you ;P
[06:36] <Xtreem> sweet
[06:36] <xwolf-> and at that time, he will check for other OSes
[06:36] <Xtreem> it will ask me which OS I want to boot too?
[06:37] <xwolf-> then, upon reset, he will give you a list of possible boot places
[06:37] <ravenous> the grub menu will list your OS options as long as its setup right
[06:37] <Xcalibur> ok
[06:37] <Xcalibur> good
[06:38] <Xcalibur> thanx
[06:38] <kilrae> here's another question, if a user has a private profile and someone goes to it, do you give them a 403?
[06:38] <Xcalibur> your guys are f****** awesome here man...
[06:39] <Xcalibur> I g2g build a cage for my neighbors rabbit, and wait for the defragmenting tool to finish, cya!
[06:42] <ravenous> i hate when rabbit cage manufacturing interferes with my computer time *sigh*
[06:42] <RogueThunder> Jott: *laughs* the v4 of my card is damn-near automaticaly supported.
[06:43] <RogueThunder> Jott: it seems ive gotten so far, that mine only needs to be configured though... which is a long ways.
[06:43] <RogueThunder> Jott: By chance... what was that scan command?
[06:43] <RogueThunder> Jott: or was that someone elce
[06:44] <jott> RogueThunder: iwlist eth1 scanning
[06:45] <madman__> i changed the font size in kate. the size changed writing in kate but prints at smaller font size, like it's printing a defult setting. any help with this.
[06:47] <jott> madman__: there are different schemas for printing
[06:47] <jott> madman__: on the pring dialog unfold options and see "layout"
[06:47] <jott> or change the kate - printing scheme via kate configuartion
[06:47] <madman__> looking now
[06:47] <RawSewage> so is this fine:   sudo rdiff-backup /home/rawsewage /backup
[06:48] <madman__> i did change using the config
[06:48] <Chousuke> Hmm.
[06:48] <Chousuke> I wonder if it's proper to make directories directly under / :D
[06:48] <RawSewage> next time I'll back up to a diff HD
[06:48] <RawSewage> but I cant stop it now
[06:49] <Chousuke> Heh
[06:49] <pointwood> anyone got an idea as to why I can't play .flac files in amarok (using xine), but I can in kaffeine (also using xine)
[06:49] <RogueThunder> Jott: Gday... Im going to have to pester the 2 people who seem to know what theyre doing configuring these cards on the ubuntu forums now ^.- gl with your stufs n such
[06:49] <Chousuke> It's not much of a backup if it's on the same drive
[06:49] <RawSewage> how do I stop it
[06:50] <Chousuke> try ctrl-c
[06:50] <RawSewage> that wont work
[06:50] <Chousuke> try again :P
[06:50] <RawSewage> I remapped Ctrl+c to Copy
[06:50] <Chousuke> hmh
[06:50] <Chousuke> a silly thing to do :)
[06:50] <jott> Chousuke: well with rdiff-backup it can make sense..
[06:50] <Chousuke> ctrl-c is very useful
[06:50] <RawSewage> what if I just exit the console
[06:50] <Chousuke> jott: if the drive fails, the data is gone
[06:51] <jott> Chousuke: sure but rdiff-backup can be used for incremantal restoring ;)
[06:51] <RawSewage> what if I just exit the console
[06:51] <jott> like "give me that file as it was 3 days ago"
[06:51] <Chousuke> jott: right.
[06:51] <jott> but you are right ... its better to use another drive
[06:51] <Chousuke> yeah
[06:51] <RawSewage> please answer now
[06:51] <RawSewage> runaway app
[06:51] <Chousuke> RawSewage: kill it
[06:51] <RawSewage> will exiting console terminate it
[06:51] <Chousuke> from another terminal
[06:52] <Chousuke> use ps -a to find out  what the process id is
[06:52] <Chousuke> ps -A even
[06:52] <Chousuke> then "sudo kill <pid>" (sudo needed because it's a root process)
[06:52] <RawSewage> ok
[06:53] <RawSewage> 5445
[06:53] <kbrooks> so kill it
[06:53] <RawSewage> ok
[06:53] <v3ctor> after you `kill` it, check to make sure it died
[06:54] <v3ctor> some apps don't respond to the default signal kill sends
[06:54] <madman__> jott: kate/settings/config-kate/editor/fonts & colors/font tab/siez=18/click apply/click ok/ maybe i need to change default schema for kate to kate-printing / it's begening to get clear to me/ thank you
[06:54] <RawSewage> its dead
[06:55] <RawSewage> so, should I link my other HD to the mnt folder
[06:55] <RawSewage> or should I create a new folder at root level
[06:55] <RawSewage> and link it to my other HD
[06:59] <Zamboulie> where do you get linux drivers for webcams?
[07:00] <madman__> RawSewage: i have you gave the ubuntu guide a look ?
[07:00] <RawSewage> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[07:01] <madman__> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[07:01] <RawSewage> ty
[07:02] <madman__> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#Hardware
[07:04] <Zamboulie> can anyone help me?
[07:05] <cannonball> Zamboulie: most hardware is supported by the kernel, you don't necessarily need to go out and 'get drivers'.
[07:05] <Zamboulie> well my webcam is all green
[07:05] <kbrooks> Ubuntu? Freeware?
[07:05] <cannonball> Zamboulie: google for your specific model and the word "linux".
[07:05] <Zamboulie> i tried that
[07:06] <kbrooks> "Are any key programs missing? Not really, but you have to do extra work to get MP3- and DVD-playing software. Both formats are proprietary, so they aren't distributed with the all-freeware Ubuntu. Enabling digital music, for example, requires installing about a dozen file packages (with bizarre names like "gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse"), and enduring occasional encounters with the terminal window to enter commands."
[07:06] <cannonball> It might be that yours isn't supported then.  What's the model number and manufacturer?
[07:06] <Zamboulie> pc camera 6029 CIF
[07:06] <kbrooks> Ubuntu is NOT "all-freeware".
[07:06] <Zamboulie> i have no clue what manufacturer it is
[07:08] <jdong_> kbrooks: are you reading that 'is ubuntu right for you'
[07:08] <jdong_> article?
[07:10] <Tm_T> kbrooks: ?
[07:11] <RawSewage> arrg  I hate Flash
[07:11] <RawSewage> it keeps messing up FF
[07:11] <ravenous> welcome to flash in linux, until 9 comes out at least
[07:12] <RawSewage> when will that be
[07:12] <jellegant> hey, room
[07:12] <cannonball> Zamboulie: if you do 'lsusb', do you see any more detail about it?
[07:12] <ravenous> last i heard first quarter 07 is what they predicted
[07:12] <cannonball> RawSewage: go look at slashdot, there's an article about it just today (interviewed the lead developer).
[07:14] <kbrooks> jdong_, of course
[07:14] <kbrooks> jdong_, it must be wrong.
[07:15] <jdong_> kbrooks: yeah, i had mixed feelings about that article
[07:15] <jdong_> I think it could've given a bit more seriousness to ubuntu
[07:15] <kbrooks> seriousness = no oversimplification?
[07:15] <jdong_> it's a pretty low-quality article, not to mention factually incorrect at times
[07:16] <jdong_> but its attitude towards ubuntu is at least somewhat accepting
[07:16] <kbrooks> i feel the article author is oversimplifying and being logically failable
[07:16] <Zamboulie> ya i got something
[07:16] <jdong_> kbrooks: yes, but I can see people reading that article wanting to give ubuntu a try
[07:16] <jdong_> kbrooks: it's an easy-to-read article for sure...
[07:16] <kbrooks> yeah
[07:16] <kbrooks> bbl
[07:16] <RawSewage> cannonball, I hate SlashDot
[07:17] <jdong_> RawSewage: I suppose you're not a digg reader then :)
[07:17] <jdong_> lol
[07:17] <RawSewage> I hate Digg
[07:17] <ravenous> the interview doesnt really say anything anyway
[07:18] <RawSewage> I scooped a few stories on Digg, and all I get were a few snide remarks and a few Diggs.  a week or 2 later, someone 'scoops' the exact same story, and it makes the fron tpage, and everyone is gushing about what a great scoop it is
[07:18] <RawSewage> screw them
[07:18] <jdong_> lol
[07:18] <ravenous> wow
[07:18] <ravenous> and you care? ;)
[07:19] <RawSewage> not anymore
[07:19] <RawSewage> I deleted Digg and SlashDot from my bookmarks
[07:19] <ravenous> lol
[07:19] <RawSewage> same with SlashDot
[07:19] <RawSewage> I submit a story, it gets rejected
[07:19] <ravenous> well i dont think they're losing any sleep over that
[07:19] <RawSewage>  a week later, someone posts same story, everyone gushes about it
[07:19] <RawSewage> screw those 'democratic' news sites
[07:20] <RawSewage> Digg is nothing more than the Stephen Colbert clip site now anyway
[07:20] <RawSewage> theres no news there
[07:20] <ravenous> i go to slashdot to read, not to post or make comments or anything, works for me
[07:22] <RawSewage> youre reading stories filtered by idiots
[07:22] <RawSewage> but whatever
[07:22] <ravenous> so whats better?
[07:22] <RawSewage> nothing atm
[07:23] <ravenous> well thats ridiculous
[07:23] <ravenous> rant that they all suck and offer no alternative, thats priceless
[07:23] <jdong_> once in a while something worthwhile comes up on digg
[07:24] <larson9999> just had a tech interview.  i forgot the db2 syntax to extract the month from a date.  errr, how about "month" you moron!
[07:25] <larson9999> hey! i like digg, kinda.
[07:25] <buz> does anyone know how i could get rid of the horizontal lines between toolbars in kde apps?
[07:28] <elvin> yo taru
[07:34] <ubuntu_> hallo vincentmx
[07:34] <ubuntu_> hi everyone
[07:34] <Dannilion> hello :)
[07:34] <ubuntu_> it- my first time i use linux
[07:35] <ubuntu_> i-m italian..so i can-t speak very well in english
[07:35] <Sanne> ubuntu_: welcome :)
[07:35] <_lupine> !it
[07:35] <ubuntu_> thx sanne
[07:35] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:47] <RawSewage> Ktorrent 2.0.2 is out
[07:49] <RawSewage> not for 386
[07:49] <RawSewage> soon
[07:49] <RawSewage> Kubuntu 6.06 : amd64 (i386 will follow soon)
[07:49] <leux> hi
[07:49] <leux> i need some help for my wlan card
[07:50] <_lupine> !wlan
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <_lupine> !wifi
[07:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:50] <cutepinkbunnies> hi _lupine
[07:52] <leux> my prob is i can't start no connection without activation my wlan card via a button on my notebook. but this button seems to need a driver.
[07:53] <cathal> just after putting an extra GB of ram into my comp. Any command or GUI that will tell me the total amount of memory in my computer.? Just to confirm it has picked it up.
[07:53] <ravenous> you dont need to wait for the i386 version of ktorrent if you just compile it
[07:54] <Sanne> cathal: free
[07:54] <Sanne> cathal: tells you about RAM and Swap
[07:55] <Sanne> cathal: or System->KInfoCenter->Memory, if you want to have it pretty :)
[07:57] <cathal> Sanne: yep that command is fine, GUI is nice to know also. Great stuff, thx
[07:57] <elvin> 
[07:57] <Sanne> cathal: you're welcome :)
[07:59] <aka_foley> what is a good burning program?
[07:59] <elvin>                                            -_-
[07:59] <Sanne> aka_foley: I like k3b
[07:59] <ccc_> aka_foley: k3b
[07:59] <jdong_> k3b
[07:59] <jdong_> always k3b :)
[08:00] <jdong_> or mkisofs/cdrecord if you want to look cool in front of your friends
[08:00] <Top_GEAR> Does the directory /etc/sysconfig exists in ubuntu?
[08:00] <Jazon> hey, where can i get some help with xgl and compiz??
[08:01] <jdong_> Top_GEAR: no, that's a redhat thing
[08:01] <jdong_> Top_GEAR: what are you looking for?
[08:01] <Top_GEAR> jdong_: Where does ubuntu save the LANG and COUNTRY settings?
[08:01] <ccc_> !xgl > Jazon
[08:01] <ravenous> Jazon: #ubuntu-xgl
[08:01] <aka_foley> is k3b used with terminal (i don't like to use the terminal because i was 1 month ago a stuoid windows user!)
[08:02] <Jazon> thx guys :D
[08:02] <ravenous> aka_foley: its GUI
[08:02] <jdong_> Top_GEAR: hmm, good question, it's some sort of dpkg-reconfigure local thing
[08:02] <jdong_> let me look for you
[08:02] <ravenous> aka_foley: probably the closest burning program you'll find to nero etc other windows burners
[08:03] <Sanne> aka_foley: take a look, you'll love it :) http://k3b.plainblack.com/screenshots
[08:03] <jdong_> Top_GEAR:  check /etc/environment
[08:03] <elvin> haha shaw
[08:03] <ninHer_> k3b is great with gui
[08:03] <ravenous> cant wait to see the new k3b theme for 1.0, though i dont mind the old one
[08:03] <Top_GEAR> jdong_: Thanxs. That was what I was looking for.
[08:04] <aka_foley> i have installed it now it's very nice!
[08:09] <slaxy> hi room
[08:09] <ninHer_> ..and powerful
[08:09] <ninHer_> hi slaxy
[08:10] <slaxy> i wanted to install kde on ubuntu ... im already downloading from package manager right now.. i just want to know that i can switch to gnome and kde at will
[08:10] <slaxy> hi ninHer_
[08:10] <azzco> Hi does anyone here use kxdocker?
[08:10] <ravenous> slaxy: yup, from 'sessions' on the login screen
[08:11] <slaxy> ravenous: well i was guessing that.. but then as far as i think.. gdm and kdm are 2 different things... [correct me if im wrong]  ... and we have to run each one to access different windows manager
[08:11] <ravenous> nope
[08:12] <aka_foley> how to install tar.gz files i have graphic driver
[08:12] <ravenous> they are different but you can run either DE with either kdm or gdm
[08:12] <azzco> not really you can chose to run one and then you can chose wich session from the display manager (gdm/kdm)
[08:12] <azzco> they have the same funktions but looks a bit different ;)
[08:12] <ravenous> aka_foley: it needs to be compiled to be installed, what are you trying to do?
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> aka_foley: How do you know that you need to install the graphics driver in that way ?
[08:13] <angasule> !kweather
[08:13] <ubotu> kweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1207 kB, installed size 2260 kB
[08:13] <amachu> slaxy: better to run, apt-get install kde*.*
[08:13] <slaxy> ravenvous, azzco: thx ....
[08:13] <slaxy> one more thing.. i have installed nvidia drivers, XGL on my present gnome X ..... will i have to again install again for KDE ?
[08:14] <amachu> slaxy: from console
[08:14] <ravenous> slaxy: your going to have to setup how it starts different other than that it should work
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> slaxy: just install kubuntu-desktop (and it will bring all of kde)
[08:14] <aka_foley> i have a s3 savage4 graphic card & it doesn't work right tv-out and other things. on the page s3graphics i have found a linux driver!
[08:14] <amachu> slaxy: yup...
[08:16] <filthpig> Hola. Trying to mount my ntfs drives in Kubuntu Dapper, but after editing fstab and trying "mount /media/ntfs" it gives me "mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /media/ntfs busy". Trying to umount either doesn't help :s Any ideas what might be causing this?
[08:16] <slaxy> amachu: well since synaptic is not working for me im using adept and im nearly done with it.... thx :)
[08:16] <slaxy> h3sp4wn: well thats what i did :) .. thx
[08:16] <slaxy> ravenous: well thats a better news... else i have to install drivers and other things again... thx :)
[08:17] <aka_foley> how to install tar.gz files help me?
[08:17] <ravenous> slaxy: the xgl wiki shows how to start it under kde, fyi, shows a startxgl script you can make and add it to 'sessions' or a couple other ways
[08:17] <amachu> aka_foley: untar
[08:17] <amachu> aka_foley: get GCC installed first
[08:18] <slaxy> ravenous: heading for ubuntuforums ...thx for headsup....
[08:18] <amachu> aka_foley: goto to the unzipped folder
[08:18] <slaxy> brb
[08:18] <amachu> aka_foley: ./configure (hope this should be done as normal user)
[08:19] <amachu> aka_foley: then do, make install
[08:19] <amachu> aka_foley: make install should be given as root
[08:19] <angasule> does anyone have kweather working? I get 'unknown station'...
[08:19] <ravenous> aka_foley: i dont think you need to do any of that, you need to 'sudo apt-get install s3switch' the program enables the tvout etc on s3 cards
[08:19] <amachu> aka_foley: that will do gud..
[08:20] <amachu> aka_foley: as ravenous stated
[08:22] <nonickname> i forget, what is the library that supports mp3's?
[08:22] <ravenous> because the savage drivers are already in xorg and should be detected by default, but the s3switch program manages the output of the card whether its crt/tvout, etc
[08:23] <ravenous> nonickname: libxine-extracodecs
[08:23] <nonickname> thanks
[08:25] <aka_foley> why not as root?
[08:25] <ravenous> ?
[08:27] <aka_foley> tv out doesn't work
[08:27] <aka_foley> !
[08:27] <ravenous> did you install s3switch?
[08:29] <aka_foley> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22064
[08:29] <aka_foley> ravenous:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22064
[08:30] <ravenous> ya so man s3switch or s3switch -h for help
[08:31] <aka_foley> and how to config it? i can speak and understand perfect russia and german but english...
[08:32] <ravenous> maybe try an ubuntu channels that speaks that then
[08:35] <ravenous> aka_foley: from what im reading, and if the tvout connection is setup, running 's3switch crt tv' will turn on both tv and crt
[08:37] <aka_foley> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22066
[08:37] <aka_foley> it doesn't work have i to restart the pc?
[08:38] <ravenous> its not even detecting that you have the tvout connected to the card
[08:38] <aka_foley> yes
[08:38] <aka_foley> i control it
[08:38] <ravenous> wait
[08:38] <ravenous> you need s3switch crt tv, not crt ntsc
[08:39] <ravenous> 'both' is lcd and crt
[08:39] <ravenous> and -q means quiet dont run that we need to see the output
[08:39] <ryanr> how do I find the kernel version I am running?
[08:40] <ravenous> ryanr: uname -r
[08:40] <ryanr> thanks ravenous
[08:40] <ravenous> np
[08:42] <Phoenix92x> hi, I'm having a problem getting kaudiocreator to actually rip anything...I've tried using LAME and FLAC. I think I might be missing something glaringly obvious but I can't think what. Could anyone help me get it working?
[08:43] <aka_foley> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22068
[08:43] <aka_foley> s3switch -crt tv                doesn't work, too!
[08:44] <ravenous> maybe try a restart
[08:44] <ravenous> it doesnt see the tv as being connected
[08:44] <aka_foley> ok
[08:44] <aka_foley> tanks very much
[08:45] <ravenous> as long  as your running the savage driver and its all plugged in i would think it should work
[08:45] <ravenous> (s3switch)
[08:47] <fallendamnation> I need some help with K3b
[08:48] <ravenous> ?
[08:48] <ravenous> are you going yo make us use our telepathy to figure out the problem or?
[08:48] <fallendamnation> keeps saying it that cdrecord has no permission to open up the device
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> fallendamnation: kdesu k3bsetup (thats a good start)
[08:49] <ravenous> bingo
[08:49] <ravenous> run it with kdesu k3b maybe if it doesnt have permissions  to access
[08:49] <fallendamnation> k then what do i do
[08:49] <fallendamnation> i got the configure up
[08:51] <ravenous> im guessing your user doesnt have permission to access cdrecord
[08:51] <fallendamnation>  Permission denied. Cannot open '/dev/sg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver
[08:51] <ravenous> id run kdesu k3b and see it works
[08:51] <ravenous> see *if
[08:52] <youssef> hi everyb
[08:52] <fallendamnation> nope doesnt work
[08:52] <ravenous> has it correctly detected the burner?
[08:52] <fallendamnation> how do i make sure it has?
[08:53] <ravenous> kdesu k3bsetup
[08:53] <ravenous> devices should be listed
[08:53] <fallendamnation> seems to
[08:53] <fallendamnation> but it lists 2 devices
[08:53] <jdong_> why is k3bsetup being used??
[08:53] <ravenous> so you have two burners or a burner and a cd drive or what?
[08:53] <Phoenix92x> is this the right channel to ask for some help with kaudiocreator?
[08:54] <fallendamnation> i have one CD/DVD drive
[08:54] <fallendamnation> only burns CDs though
[08:54] <ravenous> hm
[08:55] <ravenous> well i cant really say i had the same problem but running with kdesu works fine, since  all my burning programs have root permissions
[08:55] <fallendamnation> both of them are exactly the same cept for the device node
[08:55] <ravenous> its just one
[08:55] <ravenous> mine lists two as well but ive only got one, something with the setup
[08:56] <fallendamnation> yeah ok
[08:56] <fallendamnation> i also got X-CD roast
[08:56] <aka_foley> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22069
[08:56] <aka_foley> tv out doesn't work please help
[08:57] <ravenous> wow
[08:57] <fallendamnation> but it says that there is no root configuration file
[08:57] <ravenous> please follow
[08:57] <fallendamnation> i know the cd burner works cause i burnt Kubuntu with Ubuntu
[08:57] <ravenous> aka_foley: 's3switch crt tv' no dashes or lines or any other thing
[08:58] <ravenous> aka_foley: you've done about every command except the one i gave you
[08:58] <ocjeunesse> cherche canal ubuntu.fr
[09:00] <ravenous> fallendamnation: doesnt it make a new config file once you run it as root?
[09:00] <Phoenix92x> can anyone please help me get kaudiocreator to actually rip a CD? I click the "rip" button and it just sits there, no error or anything
[09:00] <aka_foley> restart again it doesnt work i used http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22071
[09:00] <fallendamnation> i dont know
[09:01] <fallendamnation> im pretty screwed then
[09:03] <ravenous> aka_foley: have you tried just 's3switch tv'? its getting farther after your reboot TV is at least showing up under connected devices its just not turning it on
[09:04] <moon2> oooooolas
[09:05] <lzap> I have just installed Kubuntu into Ubuntu and I am impressed! last KDE I checked out was 3.2
[09:05] <lzap> I want more :-)
[09:05] <aka_foley> when i try "s3switch tv" my lcd monitor is black and schows nothin' then i tipped in without seeing anything root@yo:~# s3switch crt
[09:05] <aka_foley> and now?
[09:06] <ravenous> aka_foley: when you s3switch tv is it coming up on the tv though?
[09:06] <aka_foley> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22072
[09:07] <aka_foley> no
[09:08] <aka_foley> the tv is black & the monitor is black
[09:08] <ravenous> what kind of tv is it? ntsc. ntscj, pal?
[09:08] <yankee> hi @ll
[09:09] <yankee> Does the installation on kubuntu usually resume after booting the first time?
[09:09] <ravenous> yankee: no
[09:09] <oslo> hi
[09:09] <ravenous> one install, reboot, your in
[09:09] <yankee> ok.. At least no installationprocess is still running than
[09:09] <oslo> when my screensavers starts i have a black screen, but when i test them they work properly ..how can i do to resolve that ?
[09:10] <yankee> unfortunattly display 7 keeps beeing blang while I expected KDE to show up there
[09:10] <yankee> blang=blank
[09:11] <ravenous> is this a fresh install or what?
[09:12] <yankee> Is it suspicious that all resolutions in the xorg.conf are set to 1280x1280...?
[09:12] <yankee> yes, it is a fresh install
[09:12] <Diabolic> I can't find out how to change the speed of my mouse (touchpad) or disabling clicking by clicking the touchpad.  Anyone know how?
[09:13] <aka_foley> what now?
[09:13] <Phoenix92x> am I asking in the wrong channel or something?
[09:13] <aka_foley> i don't know what to do!!
[09:13] <Phoenix92x> will nobody help me with kaudiocreator?
[09:14] <ravenous> aka_foley: again, is your tv ntsc, ntscj or pal?
[09:14] <CapNemo> users of kopete around here ??
[09:14] <ravenous> yankee: i assume you used the livecd? all the graphics and everything were working fine on it?
[09:15] <CapNemo> i have a strange behavior in kopete : it colors the text i send with random colors ?! any idea to remove that ??
 You mean whether I installed with the livecd? Yes... But I choosed insalation in text-mode
[09:16] <ravenous> yankee: was the livecd working fine though? did it boot and you got xwindows and everything?
[09:16] <ironfroggy> would it be crazy to install windows firefox over wine so i can get flash 9?
[09:17] <ravenous> ironfroggy: pretty much
[09:17] <aka_foley> i don't know from sony kv-25c1d
[09:17] <ironfroggy> ravenous: any good reason not to?
[09:17] <yankee> ravenous: I treid once to start from it before installation, but I had the same problem
[09:17] <ironfroggy> ravenous: assuming i have a strong need for flash 9
[09:17] <Phoenix92x> can anyone help me with kaudiocreator?....please?....it refuses to actually rip anything. I mean, even a "try this channel $channelname" would be helpful
[09:17] <ravenous> ironfroggy: afaik its unusably slow from ppl ive talked to
[09:17] <yankee> that's why I took the text-installation
[09:18] <aka_foley> its from 200
[09:18] <aka_foley> 2000
[09:18] <ironfroggy> ravenous: ive never had speed troubles with running anything on wine.
[09:18] <ravenous> ironfroggy: well try it then
[09:18] <ravenous> ;)
[09:20] <ravenous> yankee: well you've got the same problem you did before with the livecd, text mode isnt going to fix anything, its not detecting your monitor settings probably, you need to sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg and input them manually
[09:20] <ravenous> !resolution
[09:20] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:20] <Phoenix92x> I really don't understand why no one will respond to me at all
[09:20] <ravenous> or check this out
[09:20] <ravenous> Phoenix92x: because nobody here thats active probably uses the program
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> Ive never used it.
[09:21] <ravenous> nor have i
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use 'grip' to rip my cd's to mp3/oggs
[09:21] <Phoenix92x> grip?
[09:21] <mau> ciao ci sono italiani?
[09:21] <Phoenix92x> allrighty, I'll give that a shot then
[09:21] <ravenous> !it
[09:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:21] <Phoenix92x> do Cd rippers in general need root permissions to do their work properly?
[09:21] <slaxy> hi guys... kubuntu-desktop is getting installed on ubuntu right now... before it started the installation it did ask.. which DM would you like to select.... and i had to go for kdm.... guess DM can be anything... and the windows session can be selected... anyway let me have a look.. will update soon...
[09:22] <ravenous> Phoenix92x: mine do
[09:22] <mau> Scusa, sono un dilettante
[09:22] <Phoenix92x> ravenous: how do I give a cd ripper root permissions?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  from just running kaudiocreater - seems ya need to set up what encoder to use at the first run. and its HIGHLY possible it cant find the cd due to the path or permissions.
[09:22] <slaxy> brb restart
[09:23] <ravenous> Phoenix92x: beyond me but you'd have to chmod the program to give user permissions probably, i just use sudo/kdesu myself
[09:23] <aliasfred> !it
[09:23] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:23] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: it sees the cd and can read the tracks, and has grabbed the information from CDDB. But when I hit "rip" it just sits there and everything stays at 0%, doesnt even give me an error
[09:24] <Diabolic> I can't find out how to change the speed of my mouse (touchpad) or disabling clicking by clicking the touchpad.  Anyone know how?
[09:24] <yankee> oh... another short thing:(It is my first time with kubuntu): It would be useful to install an ssh-server so I can copy&paste... But well... how do I do that...? I tried "sudo apt-get install sshd" but nothing happend at all
[09:24] <jdong_> yankee: sudo apt-get install ssh
[09:24] <jdong_> it's actually openssh-server if you want to be really nerdy :)
[09:24] <jdong_> but ssh will do just fine
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  run it from a terminal see if any messages show up
[09:25] <Phoenix92x> good idea, will do
[09:25] <lotusleaf> jdong_: hi :) nice to see a new version of checkinstall and krusader appear ;)
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  its working fine for me.
[09:25] <lzap> well, GNOME has very nice OSD on my ThinkPad laptop when I change volume. does KDE have something like this?
[09:25] <jdong_> lotusleaf: :)
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  also you may have to isntall some encoders or other tools for it to use.
[09:25] <yankee> jdong: ok :-). But it is still the same, that nothing happens... Not the question that I am used to from apt-get whether I want to install the selected packet or even no error-message...
[09:25] <lotusleaf> jdong_: you efforts are appreciated by many
[09:26] <jdong_> yankee: you mean you type it at a konsole and get no response??
[09:26] <dhq> hey all
[09:26] <yankee> right... Well it asks me for a password...
[09:26] <ravenous> Diabolic: if your lucky and its a synaptics touckpad installing 'ksynaptics' will give you an icon in the tray to do all that with, if its an alps touchpad im afraid its harder and ive yet to figure it out (i have an alps)
[09:26] <ravenous> yankee: so type in your password
[09:26] <yankee> If I remember correctly I give a blank passwort...
[09:26] <jdong_> and after giving it a password nothing happens?
[09:26] <nomad411> Hi.. is anyone here running 6/06 on a macbook?
[09:26] <jdong_> your password cannot be blank :-/
[09:27] <jdong_> sudo will not like it
[09:27] <yankee> oh... mine? Because I never set a root-pw during installation, I think...
[09:27] <ravenous> yankee: yes yours
[09:27] <jdong_> yes, your password
[09:27] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: I have FLAC installed from synaptic. I'm trying to get it to use FLAC. It tells me a job has started, but there's a little green pause button next to it and nothing actually happens.
[09:27] <now3d> thanks for the default topic!
[09:27] <jdong_> there is no root password in ubuntu
[09:27] <yankee> ahh... that works :-)
[09:27] <jdong_> :)
[09:27] <Phoenix92x> nothing comes up in terminal as to there being a problem
[09:27] <lotusleaf> there is no spoon
[09:27] <Diabolic> ravenous: How can I find out what kind it is?
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  click the jobs tab and see what it says?     using oggenc right now and its working
[09:28] <lotusleaf> jdong_: with the new checkinstall, installwatch is no longer needed?
[09:28] <jdong_> lotusleaf: correct, new checkinstall includes installwatch
[09:28] <lotusleaf> jdong_: really? Awesome, thanks, I noticed it removed installwatch when it upgraded. :)
[09:28] <jdong_> yes, really :)
[09:28] <aka_foley> how to find german support??
[09:29] <trappist> !de
[09:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:29] <Phoenix92x> the jobs queue says "job 1, progress 0%, description (trackname), there's a ittle green pause button next to it. On the bottom it says Ripping (1 active, 0 queued)
[09:29] <Phoenix92x> and I was trying that with oggenc
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> !de
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> lol - !lag
[09:29] <ravenous> Diabolic: *shrug* im sure you could find it somewhere in thle xorg config or something, i just installed ksynaptics and when it didnt work i uninstalled
[09:29] <Diabolic> :))
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  you did select all the tracks?
[09:30] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: I'm just trying one right now
[09:30] <Phoenix92x> but I've tried a few, it won't do any of them
[09:30] <ravenous> Diabolic: its listed somewhere thats how i figured it out it was alps but it was in gnome's device manager and i dont know the kde equivlent
[09:30] <Phoenix92x> also, Dr_Willis, do you see anywhere where one can select the quality of a rip?
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  its all udder the settings for whatever encoder you want to use.
[09:31] <Diabolic> ravenous: It seems like it's synaptics.
[09:31] <ravenous> Diabolic: well id just give ksynaptics and install then and hope for the best ;)
[09:32] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: when I hit configure for that all I get are "name" "command line" and "extension" as options
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  also dont mount the cd when you pop it in the drive.. i hit 'cancel' when that window poped uo.
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  yes.. so tweak the command line to be what you want to change the ogg options you want. :P
[09:33] <ravenous> Phoenix92x: the quality etc has to be under the command line options of the encoding program
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> that cd rip was fast. ..
[09:33] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: I'm going to try it again being sure to not mount it
[09:34] <lotusleaf> Has anyone else noticed in kde 3.5.4 running kcalc via alt-f2 sometimes crashes kicker?
[09:34] <Phoenix92x> gah it's still not doing anything
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> make syre ya got oggenc installed. :)
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> since it aparently lets ya select encoders and tools you dont have installed
[09:40] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: can you see if you can get it working using Lame?
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> using flac right now. :P
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> on my 2nd cd
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> try a 'sudo apt-get install flac' and see if you got flac installed.
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> !info oggtools
[09:40] <ubotu> Package oggtools does not exist in any distro I know
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> !search oggenc
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install vorbis-tools
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> for the ogg  encoder and tools.
[09:42] <Phoenix92x> flac is installed
[09:42] <Phoenix92x> lame is installed
[09:42] <Phoenix92x> oggenc is installed
[09:42] <miba76> any one speak ger, need help
[09:42] <miba76> hi all
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> Neit.
[09:42] <h3sp4wn>  !de
[09:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> Oh wait thats russian. :)
[09:42] <leo690> oip[ujh
[09:42] <miba76> thx
[09:44] <Phoenix92x> I'm really confused as to what the problem could be
[09:44] <nonickname> what library is X_CreatePixmap in?
[09:44] <yankee> mhhh... is it possible, that I do not have kde installed (the installationprogram did not ask me...)
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  run it from a terminal and see if any messages are printed out.
[09:45] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: should I that normally or sudo?
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  it could be the device for the cdrom is incorect.
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> run it normally for a start
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> if it works with sudo. but not a user --> implies a permission issue.
[09:46] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: nothing happens, when the program starts it spits out ScimInputContextPlugin()
[09:46] <Zamboulie> i can't play mp3
[09:46] <Phoenix92x> nothing else happens at all
[09:46] <Zamboulie> someone help
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> !Mp3
[09:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  is it even looking up the cd/song names?
[09:49] <Diabolic> ravenous: Is the fact that my settings doesn't seem to take effect a bad sign? :P
[09:49] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: yes, it gets the song names from CDDB and gets them right
[09:49] <RawSewage> Phoenix92x, did you try playing it off your hard drive
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  i checked the box's in the config tha auto rips. then auto ejects.. :P
[09:50] <Xcalibur> yo
[09:50] <ravenous> Diabolic: yeah, you've probably got an alps ;) what kinda laptop?
[09:50] <Phoenix92x> RawSewage: how can I do that? the songs are on the CD. I'm trying to get them onto the hard drive
[09:50] <RawSewage> just drag them into a folder on your hard drive
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> its ripping, and encodeing and spitting them out almost as fast as i cn put them in. :)
[09:50] <Diabolic> ravenous: Dell Latitude D400.
[09:51] <Xcalibur> I have fips in my c drive in a folder caled fips, I boot to MS-DOS, to load it, how do I navigate to the directory
[09:51] <Xcalibur> I treid cd c:\fips
[09:51] <Xcalibur> no luck
[09:51] <ravenous> Diabolic: mine's a dell too, so im pretty sure you've got alps ;/ ive searched everywhere with about 1500 different answers .. i just wanted to disable tap heh
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> try the dir command to see whats there.
[09:51] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: I tried te same thing, it looks them up, says "7 jobs have been started" and nothing happens
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> is your c: a NTFS partition?
[09:52] <Xcalibur> no
[09:52] <Xcalibur> FAT32
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  the jobs tab dont say anything about whats its doing
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> Xcalibur,  what Sort of DOS did you boot to?
[09:52] <Phoenix92x> it just sits there and next to description there's a little green pause button
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> the older dos cant read them
[09:52] <Xcalibur> DOS 6.22
[09:52] <Diabolic> ravenous: Hehe, me too.  It get's me crazy.  And my arm hurts because of the low sensitivity :(
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> Xcalibur,  thats your problem
[09:52] <Diabolic> s/get's/gets/
[09:52] <Xcalibur> I think thats the newest right?
[09:52] <Xcalibur> what I do?
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> its the latest of the old dos. :P
[09:53] <Xcalibur> well, what dos do i get then?
[09:53] <ravenous> you need a windows boot disk, not dos
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> it still cant read fat32  No idea if they ever upgraded/came out with some ads on
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> Xcalibur,  what are you TRYING To do? whats fips anyway?
[09:53] <Xcalibur> it's a partition splitter
[09:53] <Xcalibur> unless there is a better one?
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> MANY better ones out.
[09:53] <Xcalibur> ok
[09:54] <Xcalibur> shoot
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> a live cd+gparted is the best ive found
[09:54] <RawSewage> Whats a common thing to backup daily
[09:54] <Xcalibur> well, is it under 700MB
[09:54] <Xcalibur> ?
[09:54] <Xcalibur> I only have a CD bruner
[09:54] <Xcalibur> burner*
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> theres a great many live cd's that have gparted/qtparted/parted on them
[09:54] <RawSewage> Which folder, besides my Home folder, should I back up daily?
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> tomsbrt is one  thats like 200mb. DSL is another thats 50mb
[09:55] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis, are you running kaudiocreator sudo or normally?
[09:55] <RawSewage> using rdiff-backup
[09:55] <Xcalibur> damn small linux/
[09:55] <Xcalibur> ?
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> RawSewage,  backing up all of /home - can be over kill
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  as a normal user.
[09:55] <RawSewage> Dr_Willis, yeah, I dont want to do that.  What should I back up in /home
[09:55] <Xcalibur> what I do next then?
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> RawSewage,  your firefox cache is not worth backing up. :P
[09:56] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: any ideas as to what I should do? this is driving me nuts
[09:56] <RawSewage> what should I backup outside of /home
[09:56] <RawSewage> I have a few MySQL databases
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  nope..   check dmesg output perhaps.
[09:56] <Xcalibur> DR_Willis: what should my next step be?
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> Xcalibur,  the Kubuntu install cd - has partiionng tools on it as well..
[09:57] <Xcalibur> it does?, enough to split my partition?
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> Xcalibur,  so download/burn a live cd  that has the tools and boot it.
[09:57] <notech> tried grip to rip cd's to ogg?
[09:57] <Xcalibur> like Gentoo Live Cd?
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> It can resize partitions. Not sure what you mean by 'split'
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> Not sure what gentoo has on it any more
[09:57] <Xcalibur> make 1 partition into 2
[09:57] <Xcalibur> not resize
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> Xcalibur,  thats not my definition of 'split' :)
[09:57] <Xcalibur> lol
[09:57] <Xcalibur> ok
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> what kind of partitions you talking about?
[09:58] <Xcalibur> I'll try the kubuntu CD
[09:58] <Xcalibur> what tool i use?
[09:58] <Xcalibur> on kubuntu
[09:58] <RawSewage> anyone using backupninja
[09:59] <RawSewage> I dont know anything about backing up
[09:59] <Xcalibur> ask the roming gnome
[09:59] <Xcalibur> lol
[09:59] <Xcalibur> from travolocity
[09:59] <Xcalibur> lol
[09:59] <RawSewage> !backupninja
[09:59] <ubotu> backupninja: lightweight, extensible meta-backup system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-3 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 392 kB
[09:59] <Xcalibur> !fips
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <fdoving> backupninja rocks :)
[10:00] <Xcalibur> !partition
[10:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:00] <Xcalibur> ok
[10:00] <RawSewage> fdoving, ok good
[10:00] <Xcalibur> well, I am gonna go try the kubuntu Cd
[10:04] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: in all oddness, a different app called "ripperx" works flawlessly, I havn't a clue why
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> Phoenix92x,  see what cd device its using?
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> wow flac files are large. :P
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> but compared to the .wav i guess they are small.
[10:05] <Phoenix92x> Dr_Willis: lol ya flacs are huge, but they sound beautiful
[10:05] <RawSewage> I have no idea what im doing with backupninja
[10:06] <RawSewage> oh ninjahelper
[10:06] <sdlnxgk> anyone using digital speakers with sound blaster ???
[10:07] <_lupine>  is the guy who was looking for 'ar' still here?
[10:07] <_lupine>  it's in binutils
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> sdlnxgk,  yes. :)
[10:08] <_lupine> ...oops
[10:08] <Phoenix92x> Dr_willis, how do I check that? which cd device its using I mean
[10:08] <RawSewage> this is weird
[10:08] <RawSewage> ninjahelper is a terminal program, but you can click options with the mouse
[10:09] <Diabolic> ravenous: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78904
[10:09] <Pepe> Hello. I try install kubuntu 6, but, boot hangs on "starting enterprise volume management system" whats the matter ?
[10:09] <sdlnxgk> Dr_Willis where are the settings for the digital speakers???
[10:09] <Diabolic> ravenous: Haven't tried it yet, but feedback indicates it has helped.
[10:10] <sdlnxgk> Dr_Willis couldn't find a digital setting anywhere :(
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> sdlnxgk,  i used the alsamixer i though to enable it.. actually it was enabled by default i think. :P
[10:11] <ravenous> Diabolic: yeah im gonna take a look from what it says  they work alot with the wrong driver
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> sdlnxgk,  what sound card you got exactly?
[10:12] <sdlnxgk> Dr_Willis cool will give that a show went from anolog to digital so might need some kicking to get it to work but will give it a try... Thanks
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> sdlnxgk,  kmix, has a 'switches' tab that has a button for it as well
[10:13] <sdlnxgk> Dr_Willis I have the sound blaster live value
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> but i cant seem to turn it off.. :P to prove it does anything Lol
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> wife has one of those in her xp box. :P
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> I got an Audigy2Zs
[10:13] <sdlnxgk> might be time for an upgrade sound card  :)
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> i got more sliders and controlls and switches in the mixer then i know what to do with.
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> sdlnxgk,  the audigy2's are getting cheap now that  those Newer cards are out.
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> But really - this card will last me a LONG time. :P
[10:14] <mikim> hey all
[10:14] <mikim> i have a question
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> i even got a remote - but not sure how to make that work in linux.
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> "We got answers.." (tm)
[10:15] <sdlnxgk> Dr_Willis  thanks for the info will rehook my digi speakers in a minute and give it a try!!
[10:15] <mikim> why when i requesting ubuntu i have messege: This request was not approved, so no CDs were shipped???
[10:15] <sdlnxgk> Dr_Willis thanks for your help
[10:16] <VincentMX> mikim: maybe you ordered too many cd's
[10:16] <mikim> i order only 25 CD ;?
[10:16] <mikim> :/
[10:16] <mikim> *
[10:16] <VincentMX> have you got any reason for this amount of cd's?
[10:16] <mikim> 10 kubuntu 10 ubuntu 5 edubuntu
[10:17] <VincentMX> have you got any reason for this amount of cd's?
[10:17] <adz21c_> Hi, wondering if someone could help me with an issue. I seem to be having an issue with sound. Teamspeak doesn't seem to pick up sound information (just mutes mic and output) also I seem to fail cedega audio tests. To solve this I found I can delete /var/lib/alsa/asound.state then reboot and everything works. However after rebooting a second time teamspeak and cedega fail again, same fix solves this, but frankly it's getting ann
[10:17] <adz21c_> g this?
[10:18] <mikim> what is amount?
[10:18] <mikim> sorry but my english is not good :/
[10:19] <aliasfred> amount = quantity = 25
[10:19] <VincentMX> yes
[10:19] <aliasfred> am curious too :)
[10:19] <VincentMX> thnx aliasfred
[10:19] <mikim> so why i can't request it???
[10:20] <aliasfred> mikim: why do you need so many cd ?
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> mikim: I think you have to have a more genuine reason to want edubuntu cd's (i.e you are an educational establishment)
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> I got 20 (10 kubuntu 10 ubuntu with no problems)
[10:20] <mikim> i try it
[10:20] <mikim> ok bye
[10:20] <mikim> thx
[10:20] <aliasfred> hehe he didnt want to answer the question :)
[10:21] <Pepe> does anybody know my problem ?
[10:21] <VincentMX> no
[10:21] <aliasfred> h3sp4wn: i am curious, why did you need that many cd ?
[10:21] <VincentMX> you need to ask first
[10:21] <Pepe> Hello. I try install kubuntu 6, but, boot hangs on "starting enterprise volume management system" whats the matter ?
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> aliasfred: The only one which had mac and x64 as part of it
[10:21] <RawSewage> Pepe, is it a beta version of Kubuntu
[10:22] <VincentMX> 6.10?
[10:22] <Pepe> no, i think is the stable
[10:22] <Pepe> dapper
[10:22] <_lupine> Pepe: sounds like it doesn't like your hard drive configuration
[10:22] <VincentMX> k
[10:22] <_lupine> are you actually using EVMS? LVM?
[10:22] <h3sp4wn> aliasfred: No real reason (just if people want them people can have them if they ask me) they are all useless anyway as you need to download 300mb of updates
[10:22] <Pepe> _lupine what is LVM ? EVMS ?
[10:22] <Pepe> my hard disk is serial ata 120 gb
[10:22] <jdong_> Pepe: do you have any hard drives that could be going bad?
[10:23] <_lupine> If you don't know, you're not using them :)
[10:23] <jdong_> or scratched cd's in the cd-rom drive?
[10:23] <aliasfred> h3sp4wn: ok
[10:23] <_lupine> ...
[10:23] <Pepe> I dont hope so :S
[10:23] <_lupine> boot into recovery mode, and disable EVMS
[10:23] <jdong_> he's on a livecd, right?
[10:23] <Pepe> yes
[10:23] <_lupine> ah....
[10:23] <_lupine> right
[10:23] <_lupine> Download the alt. install CD
[10:23] <jdong_> when evms starts on the livecd, it'll scan all the partitions on the disks
[10:23] <jdong_> if one of them is weird, it will hang evms
[10:24] <_lupine> of course, the likelihood is that it'll do the same thing on the installed system
[10:24] <jdong_> but usually after a minute or two it clears up
[10:24] <_lupine> (ubuntu starts too much stuff by default, IMO)
[10:24] <h3sp4wn> _lupine: I agree
[10:24] <jdong_> idn, most of the things it starts are eseential
[10:24] <RawSewage> I think the default for sessions should be:  Start with new sesssion, instead of  Restore Previous Session
[10:24] <_lupine> ???
[10:24] <jdong_> evms is used for lvm/device-mapper
[10:25] <_lupine> no, they aren't :)
[10:25] <jdong_> yes, they are...
[10:25] <jdong_> I've tried to trim down ubuntu's boot procedure before
[10:25] <Pepe> "start kubuntu in safe graphics mode" ? do I chose this ?
[10:25] <jdong_> I think I succeeded in removing two symlinks
[10:25] <RawSewage> Restore Previous Session accumulates lots of baggage over time, and slows everything down
[10:25] <_lupine> except in a few configurations, there's no need for them.
[10:25] <jdong_> evms?
[10:25] <jdong_> the livecd uses device-mapper
[10:25] <jdong_> which requires evms
[10:25] <jdong_> there's one configuration
[10:26] <jdong_> not to mention lvm users
[10:26] <_lupine> how many people actually use EVMS, though? Or LVM? Not that many
[10:26] <h3sp4wn> You can't even install to lvm without using the alternative cd (as far as I know)
[10:26] <_lupine> RAID?
[10:26] <jdong_> _lupine: do you boot the livecd?
[10:26] <jdong_> if so, you need evms
[10:26] <jdong_> end of story
[10:26] <_lupine> h3sp4wn: you can - you just need to wipe your entire HD first
[10:26] <_lupine> dong_: RAID?
[10:26] <_lupine> HPLIPS?
[10:27] <jdong_> raid does nothing if you don't have a raid
[10:27] <_lupine> PCMCIA?
[10:27] <jdong_> again, all of those don't take any time if you don't have the hardware
[10:27] <h3sp4wn> I think software raid is pretty pointless anyway
[10:27] <_lupine> they do on startup
[10:27] <jdong_> not really
[10:27] <_lupine> and they're one more thing that can break
[10:27] <h3sp4wn> if you want raid you should have it in hardware
[10:27] <jdong_> they are not what's chewing up time
[10:27] <h3sp4wn> so the os sees it as one disk
[10:27] <jdong_> h3sp4wn: actually, software raid is quite useful
[10:28] <jdong_> not everyone can afford a hardware raid controller
[10:28] <h3sp4wn> jdong_: Too slow
[10:28] <jdong_> not terribly bad
[10:28] <jdong_> still better than no raid
[10:28] <jdong_> upstart will fix a lot of the init dumbness
[10:28] <Pepe> "setting up LVM Volume Groups" <-- is this what i have to disable? how do I do that ?
[10:29] <_lupine> fingers crossed :)
[10:29] <_lupine> pepe: lvm is somewhat different to evms
[10:30] <Pepe> "buffer I/O error on device dm-1, logical block 9779462" <-- Is my hard drive broken? :(
[10:30] <JohnFlux_> h3sp4wn: hardware raid is poinless
[10:31] <JohnFlux_> h3sp4wn: pointless
[10:31] <JohnFlux_> h3sp4wn: software raid is far more flexible
[10:31] <jdong_> Pepe: either that or the CD
[10:31] <JohnFlux_> h3sp4wn: and you aren't screwed if the hardware controller breaks
[10:31] <jdong_> JohnFlux: depends on how expensive your hardware raid controller is :)
[10:31] <jdong_> lol
[10:31] <jdong_> I'd like one of those fancy ones with a battery backup
[10:31] <JohnFlux_> jdong_: and what if it breaks?
[10:32] <jdong_> JohnFlux_: the chances of that happening are not as good as the chances of write cache data loss :)
[10:32] <Pepe> ok, thankyou for your help, bye
[10:33] <zerotreta> alguem ai pode me dizer por que no acho os canais do brasil?
[10:33] <zerotreta> qual rede devo conectar?
[10:33] <_lupine> !portugese
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portugese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <_lupine> !br
[10:33] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:33] <zerotreta> _lupine:  isso ai maninho
[10:34] <jdong_> is "use" really portugese?
[10:34] <_lupine> :( no portugese or brasilian nein non
[10:34] <zerotreta> join #ubuntu-br
[10:34] <_lupine> anyone know any more 'no' words? :)
[10:34] <soulrider_> no
[10:34] <soulrider_> :P
[10:34] <_lupine> already got that one
[10:35] <joscha> nein (german)
[10:35] <_lupine> I should know, really... I have a portugese friend
[10:35] <_lupine> got that one too :p
[10:35] <h3sp4wn> JohnFlux_: HP support contract (you can have one in 4 hours or just keep a spare)
[10:36] <CatSoup> this might be a dumb question, but can i run gnome on kubuntu?
[10:36] <soulrider_> justo go to babelfish and translate "no"
[10:36] <jdong_> CatSoup: sure
[10:36] <_lupine> We could always just agree that RAID itself is pointless... that's what multiple redundant power supplies, UPS, and minutely backups to multiple overseas locations are for
[10:36] <joscha> CatSoup: sure
[10:36] <CatSoup> cool beans. i just install the package through adept?
[10:36] <jdong_> _lupine: but what about my 5xRAID1 performance?
[10:36] <joscha> just install gnome-desktop
[10:36] <_lupine> but hardware RAID is cheaper, and software RAID cheaper still ;)
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> _lupine: It is pointless for home use but you may as well have it for business critical stuff (in hardware)#
[10:37] <_lupine> true. Won't exactly do any harm
[10:37] <lotusleaf> install xfce too :)
[10:37] <_lupine> I don't have "home user" internet...
[10:38] <ad> hi, does anyone know how to get rid of these annoying debugging messages, if i launch a kde-application from console?
[10:38] <lotusleaf> ad, don't run from konsole? :)
[10:38] <joscha> alt + space is your friend ;)
[10:39] <soulrider_> yea
[10:39] <soulrider_> use katapult
[10:39] <ad> hm
[10:39] <ad> but i like starting apps from konsole
[10:39] <JohnFlux_> h3sp4wn: but all the raid info is on the card
[10:39] <jdong_> Ad: command 2>&1 > /dev/null
[10:39] <soulrider_> lol
[10:39] <CatSoup> wait, if i'm getting this right, kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE pre-installed?
[10:39] <soulrider_> i use yakuake
[10:39] <JohnFlux_> h3sp4wn: so you lose that info
[10:39] <ad> eg kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:39] <soulrider_> y just hide it
[10:39] <joscha>  CatSoup: yes
[10:39] <w1w1t0m1> hello, I did set folder sharing on one PC in LAN, but can't add it as network place on another... can anybody help ? (i use nfs server)
[10:39] <soulrider_> CatSoup:  yeah!
[10:39] <CatSoup> O.O
[10:39] <JohnFlux_> CatSoup: kubuntu is just ubuntu with different defaults
[10:39] <ad> hehe, this 2>&1 is really an idea!
[10:39] <lotusleaf> CatSoup: and without the people on the shipit cover
[10:40] <CatSoup> that makes so much sense it's not even funny.
[10:40] <_lupine> :p
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> JohnFlux_: They can be just swapped out (The HP ones I have used anyway and they keep working fine)
[10:40] <lotusleaf> I think the Kubuntu shipit cover should have aliens instead of people holding hands
[10:40] <_lupine> it comes without GNOME installed :)#
[10:40] <_lupine> that's a big plus
[10:40] <soulrider_> lotusleaf: whys that ?
[10:40] <lotusleaf> soulrider_: because aliens are cool
[10:40] <soulrider_> lol
[10:40] <soulrider_> so KDe is cool ?
[10:40] <JohnFlux_> h3sp4wn: how much do those cost?
[10:40] <lotusleaf> and at least something would be holding hands
[10:41] <joscha> can't image Gigers Aliens holding hands....
[10:41] <lotusleaf> I think GoetiaUbuntu would be cool, "Ubuntu for Demons"
[10:41] <_lupine> har
[10:41] <soulrider> o.O
[10:41] <CatSoup> why isn't there a Gubuntu then?
[10:41] <CatSoup> is gnome the default for Ubuntu?
[10:41] <lotusleaf> loaded on a red two-horned usb stick, GoetiaUbuntu will satisfy any demon
[10:42] <soulrider> !goetia
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about goetia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <_lupine> it's the Lesser Key of Solomon, thank you
[10:42] <joscha> gnome is default for ubuntu yes
[10:42] <CatSoup> :)
[10:42] <lotusleaf> _lupine: ;D
[10:42] <_lupine> And TBH, the Book of Abra-Melin the Mage is a much more solid base for a linux operating system
[10:42] <_lupine> what with all the self-flagellation and such
[10:42] <lotusleaf> info about Goetia is at wikipedia for one
[10:43] <CatSoup> my gnome installation failed :-.
[10:43] <CatSoup> :(
[10:43] <w1w1t0m1> I did set folder aaa in my home directory to share, and nfsd is running on port 2049, so how can I in konqueror connect to this folder? nfs:// ... ?
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> JohnFlux_: Pretty expensive (I have never dealt with the cost)
[10:45] <sdlnxgk> Dr_Willis Thanks for the help got it up and running digital sound now...
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> JohnFlux_: If a disk dies the red light goes on you change it and within an hour its just sorted itself out
[10:45] <CatSoup> umm, egg_desktop_etires always say NULL failed in the terminal window
[10:45] <CatSoup> that's probably a bad thing right?
[10:45] <CatSoup> egg_desktop_entries_add_group*
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> Muching on a New Lasanga Pizza from Pizza hut.
[10:49] <reddwolf78> hello i was trying to get alsaplayer installed on my linux and wehen i went to compile it do get it working i kept getting an error that i could not compile it
[10:49] <CatSoup> lasagna pizza? o.0
[10:49] <sdlnxgk> Dr_Willis  that sounds  good  think i'll order Papa John's Pizza ;)
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> pappa jons has a new pizza out also.
[10:50] <reddwolf78> could someone help me with it i'm new on linux still and have not don't a comepile and i have read the web page and barley understand it
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> 2 saussages, perproni, and some other meat
[10:50] <reddwolf78> meat lovers
[10:50] <_lupine> ...:D
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> reddwolf78,  install 'build-essential' yet?
[10:50] <reddwolf78> i'm not sure
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> i would guess thats a NO. then. :P
[10:51] <sdlnxgk> Dr_Willis Hmmmmm sounds good but i'm stuck on that Spinach Alfredo Pizza :D
[10:51] <reddwolf78> i got through the first part of the compile web page fine but get down to the bottom were it startes getting in to the make part screws me up
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> if you dont have build-essential installed - then make isent isntalled. :P
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> i think
[10:52] <reddwolf78> oh
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> !info build-essential
[10:52] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> and gcc and other tools are not isntalled yet. :P
[10:52] <lotusleaf> reddwolf78: examine any errors to see if dependencies require resolving
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> and of course - depending on what you are compiling - OTHER developer packages may be needed
[10:53] <reddwolf78> from what i can remember from yesterday it siad confure file not a valid name  and make  says the same thing
[10:53] <reddwolf78> i'm trying to get alsaplayer on my linux
[10:54] <reddwolf78> i got one package from there wed site and what ever my inux system has on it
[10:54] <reddwolf78> linux*
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> !info alsaplayer
[10:54] <ubotu> Package alsaplayer does not exist in any distro I know
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> !info alsaplayer-common
[10:55] <ubotu> alsaplayer-common: PCM player designed for ALSA (common files). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.76-7ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 154 kB, installed size 440 kB
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> there ya go
[10:56] <reddwolf78> i got the that but how do it get it on my system
[10:56] <reddwolf78> i went through adept a got those
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> you use the package manager to install it. then  who knows.. never used it.. :P rtfm?  try typing 'alsaplayer' in the shell?
[10:57] <reddwolf78> that delt with alsa but they are just the plug and play
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> try alsaplayer-gtk ?
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> 'alsa-player' just launched a little player gui for me.
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:58] <reddwolf78> same here but i nee the whole thing
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> what 'whole thing' ?
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> Theres about a dozen alsa-player-XXXXXXXXX packages in the repos.
[10:59] <reddwolf78> give me just a sec i have the web link
[10:59] <reddwolf78> http://www.alsaplayer.org/
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> and the question what are you needing 'the whole thing' for?
[11:01] <reddwolf78> i dj on sat nights and i found that alsaplayer works with shoutcast
[11:01] <reddwolf78> witch i need that part of the alsaplayer to dj
[11:02] <ad> try 'apt-cache show alsaplayer'
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> which part? heh..
[11:02] <wimpies> anybody around that can help me setting up my ZEN sleek MP3 player ?
[11:02] <ad> but i don't see anything related to djing
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> you want a player to play shoutcast streams?
[11:02] <reddwolf78> shoutcast/icecast is a tool to get music out on the web for others to listen too
[11:02] <reddwolf78> and alsaplayer supports it
[11:03] <reddwolf78> http://freshmeat.net/projects/alsaplayer/
[11:03] <reddwolf78> thats were i found it
[11:03] <Sanne> reddwolf78: you can also look here for what's available in dapper: http://tinyurl.com/mvm7p
[11:04] <reddwolf78> would i have to compile anything
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> so you install the icecast server.. then isntall the alsa-player-common package
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> icecast-server - MPEG Layer III Streaming Server
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> Im not seeing why you need to compile anything.. its all there in the repositories..
[11:04] <reddwolf78> then how would i t get also to work for me then
[11:05] <w1w1t0m1> I get error message from konqueror by trying to connect via nfs : "Authorization failed, localhost authentication not supported."
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> !repos
[11:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> !icecast
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> icecast-client - Streaming Mpeg Layer III feeder
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> icecast-server - MPEG Layer III Streaming Server
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> !info icecast-server
[11:06] <ubotu> icecast-server: MPEG Layer III Streaming Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3.12-14 (dapper), package size 176 kB, installed size 728 kB
[11:06] <Sanne> reddwolf78: you may also ask in #lad (linux audio developers and users), they might have more knowledge about audio related stuff.
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> use the package manager and search/install the stuff.. if you need to expand your repositories  check the !easysource bot info or that other url
[11:07] <reddwolf78> ok
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> Im thinkin its more of an issue. that hes making it TOO hard. :P
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> the package managers/repos seem to have all the stuff you want.
[11:08] <ubuntu> hello everyone, i need help with kubuntu...
[11:08] <usr> hello. can anyone tell me why I can't use a blank password for my account on kubuntu?
[11:08] <matthias> you can...
[11:08] <Sanne> reddwolf78: there's also #ubuntstudio channel and as part of the ubuntuforums, and the wiki: http://ubuntustudio.com/
[11:08] <ubuntu-dracou> hello everyone, i need help with kubuntu... it's not booting anymore and i have a log
[11:09] <MetaMorfoziS> why bad if i install firefox from repos?
[11:09] <matthias> ubuntu-dracou: don't ask to ask, jut ask
[11:11] <visik7> is there a graphical way to connect a bluetooth phone in kde and using it with kppp ?
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> usr,  it would be a bad security  'thing to do'
[11:11] <aliasfred> !irc
[11:11] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[11:12] <aliasfred> what is the mode option to block the reception of wallops on freenode ?
[11:12] <lotusleaf> yup, the next version of VLC will look nicer.. with Qt! :)
[11:13] <reddwolf78> so far i'm not getting anywere with ither group chats
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> reddwolf78,  well you are being a little vague. and perhaps confused about things. :P
[11:14] <aliasfred> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#networkinfo <- was me answer :)
[11:14] <ad> usr/sda maybe you want to have a look at the settings of kdm, if youre using it
[11:15] <inteliwasp> if i import bookmarks into firefox, will i lose the ones that are listed before the import?
[11:15] <ad> theres is an option to automatically logging into kde without a password
[11:15] <reddwolf78> oh
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> KDM has an auto login feature
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> but using no password - is a bad idea
[11:16] <matthias> ad: yes
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> the first users password is also the 'sudo' password. so i really DONT think you want that to be blank
[11:18] <reddwolf78> i was the only one in one group the #ubuntstudio and no one is chating in the #lad
[11:19] <lotusleaf> passwords are there for a reason
[11:20] <klerfayt> I need a tool that let's me create rar archives
[11:21] <sda> I know passwords are there for a reason. of course :) but generally I trust the people with whom I mingle to not destroy my system.
[11:22] <lotusleaf> sda: trust is a weakness
[11:22] <Sanne> klerfayt: I think there are some rar/unrar packages in the repositories, you can find out in which ones on packages.ubuntu.com.
[11:23] <_lupine> unrar-free and unrar
[11:23] <sda> :-)
[11:23] <_lupine> !unrar
[11:23] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:23] <_lupine> if passworded, use unrar
[11:24] <Sanne> _lupine: klerfayt wants to create rar files.
[11:25] <Agios> use rar to create, unrar to extract
[11:26] <_lupine> ah...
[11:26] <_lupine> don't :)
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> install the rar stuff and ark can make them
[11:26] <lotusleaf> also krusader has rar support
[11:26] <_lupine> use bzip2 instead :)
[11:26] <_lupine> (compression isn't quite as good, but it's free (in both senses of the word))
[11:26] <inteliwasp> if i import bookmarks into firefox, will i lose the ones that are listed before the import?
[11:27] <maninder> im running kubuntu and i cant even install any of my drivers
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Import merges
[11:27] <inteliwasp> thanks
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Othereise it would be  sort of useless. :P
[11:27] <klerfayt> heh, rar is shareware, you can use it 40days
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> rar is 'annoying' :)
[11:27] <Martijn81> anyone know howto convert a *.po documentation to a file readable by the system? I know howto do it for gui stuff, but for docs is unclear for me
[11:27] <jamie> looking for a consultant to setup jails for fastcgi scripts (php4-cgi, python, perl, etc)
[11:27] <ad> what i was looking for to get rid of the annoying console debug messages was kdebugdialog
[11:28] <Sanne> klerfayt: if you can, use something else
[11:28] <maninder> can linux run .exe ?
[11:28] <lotusleaf> maninder: yes with WINE, see #winehq
[11:28] <lotusleaf> maninder: also http://www.winehq.com/
[11:28] <jamie> sorry if this is a repeate: looking for a consultant to setup jails for fastcgi/scgi scripts (php4-cgi, python, perl, etc) message me privately if interested
[11:30] <maninder> lotusleaf can i have your msn please i might need your guide
[11:30] <Sanne> Martijn81: you mean compiling a text .po file to a binary .mo file?
[11:30] <klerfayt> Sanne: I tried to create tar.bz2 1.6GB archive but it didn't afterwards or I gave to wait 15 minutes?
[11:30] <lotusleaf> maninder: I don't use msn, my e-mail is on my site: http://lotusleafslinks.tuxfamily.org/
[11:30] <klerfayt> *didn't open
[11:31] <lotusleaf> maninder: I'm sure the kind folks in #winehq can help you though :)
[11:31] <Martijn81> Sanne: yeah, i know howto do that with gui.po to gui.mo files, but are docs the same? I can't seem to find the correct folder too
[11:31] <lotusleaf> maninder: and/or ask here too
[11:31] <maninder> okay
[11:31] <maninder> its just that im new i dont know what to do
[11:32] <lotusleaf> maninder: that's why many of us are here, ask away
[11:32] <Sanne> klerfayt: wow, 1.6GB! :) I guess, depending on your system, it may well need more than 15 minutes to open. bz2 compression seems quite thorough. I would try it again.
[11:32] <dafart> hi there
[11:32] <dafart> does anyone know a way to download .torrent files from php scripted sites using wget?
[11:32] <maninder> dman i gata run to work ill be back on here for more questions latter on
[11:32] <maninder> bye
[11:32] <marlix> ll
[11:32] <maninder> and thanks for the site
[11:33] <Fille> Hi!
[11:33] <Fille> I'm a new Kubuntu user ;D
[11:33] <lotusleaf> maninder: yw cu
[11:33] <Sanne> Martijn81: I don't understand exactly what you mean with gui and docs files. I used .po files to localize WordPress (php blog system) and used the tool msgfmt to convert it to .mo files.
[11:33] <Fille> I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I could install Firefox on my Kubuntu?
[11:33] <Fille> I'm not sure where I should unpack it and so on :o
[11:33] <klerfayt> Fille: use adept
[11:34] <klerfayt> Fille: kmenu>syste>adept; search for "firefox"
[11:34] <lotusleaf> I like Synaptic in Kubuntu better ;)
[11:35] <Fille> l,
[11:35] <Fille> k
[11:35] <digits> Fille: or in konsole sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:35] <Fille> it says it's installed
[11:36] <Fille> but I don't see it on my Internet tabb
[11:36] <Martijn81> Sanne: yup, msgfmt indeed. I just mean KDE translations in gui of an application, that is msgfmt -o *.po *.mo, and then mv the file to the correct folder. But now i want to preview my document translation  (help:/konqueror for example)
[11:36] <Sanne> Martijn81: I'm afraid that's a bit too advanced for me, sorry :)
[11:37] <Martijn81> it's ok, i'll find a way :)
[11:37] <Sanne> Martijn81: there's always a way (mostly...) :)
[11:37] <Martijn81> hehe
[11:37] <Sanne> good luck
[11:38] <Fille> Anyone knows why I don't see Firefox on my Start > Internet menu?
[11:38] <Fille> :/
[11:38] <klerfayt> Fille: probably menu is not updated (it will be next time you log in); alt+f2  and type firefox
[11:38] <mx> what is the linux equivalent of a batch file?
[11:38] <lotusleaf> Fille: try running kmenuedit
[11:38] <lotusleaf> you can add it manually
[11:38] <digits> mx: bash file
[11:38] <digits> ;P
[11:39] <mx> digits: what is the extension? lol
[11:39] <lotusleaf> Fille: you may want to install Synaptic, it's better than Adept IMO
[11:39] <klerfayt> lotusleaf: it will be added; he just needs to log out first
[11:39] <digits> mx: .sh
[11:39] <mx> x_x
[11:39] <lotusleaf> klerfayt: :)
[11:39] <Sanne> mx: sometimes there is no extension, though.
[11:39] <Fille> "Could not run the specified term"
[11:39] <Fille> :(
[11:39] <digits> mx: more exactly shell script file
[11:39] <digits> nite all
[11:39] <klerfayt> Fille: but you said it is installed
[11:39] <AZ_AS> lotusleaf, why do you think synpatic's better than adept? just curious
[11:39] <mx> i made an sh file to run xmame, and it's telling me to su to have permissions to run it =/
[11:39] <Fille> yes, Adept told me it was installed
[11:40] <lotusleaf> AZ_AS: lots of reasons which probably only matter to me. :)
[11:40] <klerfayt> Fille: what happens if you open konsole and type fire and then tab?
[11:40] <Fille> hmm this is strange
[11:40] <AZ_AS> lol, I'll give it a test whirl and see what I think :)
[11:40] <liam> hey
[11:40] <Fille> nothing
[11:41] <Fille> this is odd
[11:41] <Sanne> lotusleaf, AZ_AS: one thing I love about Synaptic is that it keeps an installation history. Adept doesn't do that, as far as I know.
[11:41] <klerfayt> Fille: fo you see firefox in /usr/bin ?
[11:41] <liam> im looking for some help opening adept it says "conversation with su failed"
[11:41] <lotusleaf> Fille: go into adept, install Synaptic, then run Synaptic from now on when you install programs
[11:42] <Fille> ok will do
[11:42] <lotusleaf> once in Synaptic, search for firefox, install it if needed
[11:42] <AZ_AS> Sanne, ty...definitely will have to try it then since that'd come in handy for me
[11:42] <Fille> thank you guys for the help really appreciate it <3
[11:42] <lotusleaf> Fille: :) karma sprouts with smiling flower faces
[11:43] <Sanne> AZ_AS: yeah, that's the main reason I use it.
[11:43] <lotusleaf> I just like how Synaptic looks and works overall vs. adept
[11:43] <liam> so can someone help me
[11:46] <mx> lol, what did it say?
[11:46] <Fille> I've searched for Synaptic in Adept but didn't find it
[11:46] <Fille> So I couldn't install it
[11:46] <Fille> I'm confused here :(
[11:46] <lotusleaf> have you configured your sources.list?
[11:47] <Fille> I thought it would be "easy" to install applications on Kubuntu :o
[11:47] <Martijn81> mx: 22:55
[11:47] <lotusleaf> Fille: we aren't a tor troll are we? :)
[11:47] <Fille> tor?
[11:47] <mx> anyhow.. does anyone recommend any certain program for making a video of the computer screen?
[11:47] <Martijn81> mx: i mean, almost one hour ago....
[11:47] <mx> ah
[11:48] <Fille> so guys, what should I do then? :/
[11:48] <lotusleaf> Fille: installations are easy
[11:48] <mx> Martijn81: i don't think i've been here that long
[11:48] <mx> heh
[11:48] <Martijn81> she's loving gentoo ;)
[11:49] <Fille> lotusleaf: k, then could you tell me how I can fix Firefox for my Kubuntu then ?
[11:49] <Fille> :)
[11:49] <mx> i wanna record video of my comp screen, with optional sound.. =P
[11:49] <aliasfred> mx, screenkast is the name i think
[11:49] <lotusleaf> Fille: I don't use Adept, but I'd imagine it's as simple as starting Adept and selecting firefox to install then installing it
[11:49] <mx> aliasfred: thanks
[11:49] <aliasfred> or kreencast, or close :)
[11:50] <aliasfred> mx, on kde-apps.org
[11:50] <Fille> lotusleaf: ok
[11:50] <mx> it isn't in the kubuntu repo?
[11:50] <liam> I would like you all to know that kubuntu is a complete pile of shit that is full of errors but looks pretty
[11:50] <Fille> I'll try uninstalling then reinstalling it then
[11:50] <aliasfred> dunno
[11:50] <Fille> liam: why?
[11:50] <mx> haha liam
[11:50] <Martijn81> aliasfred: yeah but screenkast does not include sound AFAIK
[11:50] <OOD> liam: uh
[11:50] <AZ_AS> hmm, tried installing Synaptic but there was an error message, saying there was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages
[11:51] <liam> everything i do is difficult
[11:51] <Sanne> Fille: when you tried to run firefox, did you use lowercase?
[11:51] <aliasfred> Martijn81: i dunno i never tried it
[11:51] <liam> i hate the look of gnome though
[11:51] <lotusleaf> Fille: if it's already installed, you shouldn't need to uninstall then reinstall it
[11:51] <OOD> it takes some getting used too
[11:51] <Martijn81> aliasfred: i did, ffmpegwith theora is probably better if you want sound in it
[11:51] <lotusleaf> Fille: press ALT+F2 then type firefox then hit Enter
[11:52] <Fille> "Could not run the specifc command"
[11:52] <scabootssca> hey how do i reset my repository list to the default from instalation?
[11:52] <liam> i cant open the add/remove programs i cant open adept and i cant ever find firefox
[11:52] <mx> aliasfred: is there one in the kubuntu repos?
[11:52] <mx> ah, sorry
[11:52] <dein> why is the update server down?
[11:52] <mx> missed your response last time i asked :p
[11:53] <yannux> hello everybody :)
[11:53] <klerfayt> liam: you need to know sudo password to use adept
[11:53] <Fille> Should I re-download the .tar file from Firefox's webpage again and save it on my hdd then?
[11:53] <dein> it says i have updates, but when i try to download em i get 404s
[11:53] <yannux> width kde, is it possible tu have windows under mouse cursor when I press alt+tab ??
[11:53] <liam> ya i installed the system myself about 10 minutes ago i know the password
[11:53] <aliasfred> Martijn81: too bad, linux would benefit from a good screencast capture software. such tool would be real nice to publish demo/doc
[11:54] <OOD> yannux: what do you mean?
[11:54] <liam> i enter the password but it says it "cant communicate wit su"
[11:54] <liam> with
[11:54] <lotusleaf> Fille: you don't need to download a .tar file
[11:54] <aliasfred> Martijn81: the exsiting solution are 'raw' at best :)
[11:54] <Xera> hiho
[11:54] <Fille> but what's wrong then?
[11:54] <AZ_AS> there a way to remove lib files safely without breaking the system?
[11:54] <Fille> I've unpacked it and all
[11:55] <lotusleaf> Fille: you might try asking in #ubuntu if you don't find your question to be properly answered to your satisfaction in here.
[11:55] <Xera> i have to do sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 everytime i reboot to mount my windows partition, and i forgot what i need to put into fstab, can someone tell me? :p
[11:55] <Fille> k
[11:55] <ad> liam: does sudo work?
[11:55] <Martijn81> aliasfred: yeah, but screenkast can work with tooltips though
[11:55] <MetaMorfoziS> what i need to install to get work the "svn" cmd?
[11:55] <yannux> OOD: when I press Alt+tab to switch or view opened soft on my desktop, I would like that the list to be placed under where my mouse cursor is....
[11:55] <MetaMorfoziS> svn co -N svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kdenetwork
[11:55] <MetaMorfoziS> it said svn command not found
[11:56] <matthias> Xera: the same, just without mount
[11:56] <ad> sth like: /dev/sda1       /media/winxp    ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0     1 1
[11:56] <liam> well i opened adept in konsole, there were a few errors but it did open
[11:56] <Xera> matthias: lol, ok
[11:56] <yannux> OOD: you see what I want to say ? ;)
[11:56] <matthias> does anybody have reiser4 here?
[11:56] <mx> my cpp processor failed a sanity check =(
[11:56] <mx> preprocessor*
[11:56] <ad> ok
[11:56] <Xera> uh, and with -t, and -o?
[11:57] <ad> i had to initially do sudo su
[11:57] <klerfayt> Fille: does adept say firefox is installed like this? http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8310/pilt1mo7.png
[11:57] <ad> and then passwd
[11:57] <ad> to get a root pw
[11:57] <Xcalibur> omg
[11:57] <Xcalibur> painstaking work, for nothing
[11:58] <Xcalibur> I partitioned a second partition of 4.5gb
[11:58] <matthias> Xera: you might want to read man fstab
[11:58] <Sanne> MetaMorfoziS: I think you would need the package subversion
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> yes... i figured out during the question
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[11:59] <Sanne> MetaMorfoziS: cool! :)
[11:59] <Xcalibur> and another of 285MB, and my standard 5gb winxp partition, I set the second partition to "/", and the 285MB one for swap, I boot it up, and no grub?
[11:59] <mx> is something wrong with us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:59] <Xcalibur> hey
[11:59] <Xcalibur> can someone tell me if kubuntu comes with grub?
[11:59] <Xera> matthias: i never understand wtf they're talking about in man
[11:59] <Sanne> Xcalibur: yes, it does
[11:59] <Xera> Xcalibur: um.. ofc?
[11:59] <Xera> >_<
[11:59] <RawSewage> audioconverter  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12608
[11:59] <mx> Xera: couldnt it have lilo?
[12:00] <Xcalibur> I installed it, just fine
[12:00] <Fille> klerfayt: yes that is correct
[12:00] <Xcalibur> no grub when boot up?
[12:00] <OOD> yannux: hmm, i don't know if there is an option like that
[12:00] <Xcalibur> plz, somone help me?
[12:00] <yannux> OOD: yes, I did no find it :s
[12:00] <mx> damnit
[12:00] <mx> someone ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <yannux> OOD: It will be good to access quickly to window list :)
[12:01] <Xcalibur> it is still up, I pinged it
[12:01] <Martijn81> mx: i got a good capture with this info a while ago: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/
[12:01] <Sanne> Xcalibur: I remember having to agree to install grub to the master boot record. Yre you sure you did that?
[12:02] <mx> ah, thanks, Xcalibur, Martijn81
[12:02] <liam> ya me too its up
[12:02] <mx> .. wtf
[12:02] <Xcalibur> I don't beleiev it asked me
[12:02] <liam> its faster that ca.archive.ubuntu.com and im in canada
[12:02] <mx> x_x
[12:02] <mx> my computer's been doing this for a while..
[12:03] <Sanne> Xcalibur: oh sorry, maybe that's because I used the alternate installer. You probably used the live cd? I don't know how it handles this, sorry.
[12:03] <Xcalibur> damn it!!!!!1
[12:03] <liam> its because kubuntu is full of errors
[12:03] <Xcalibur> omg
[12:03] <Sanne> Xcalibur: but you probably can use the live cd to install grub
[12:03] <Xcalibur> how?
[12:04] <Sanne> Xcalibur: give me a moment to find a reference page for you
[12:04] <Xcalibur> ok
[12:05] <inteliwasp> how do i find what is causing poor audio quality for music and videos?
[12:05] <mx> i try to go to connect to the internet and it just doesn't go through to that particular site for a bit
[12:05] <mx> just happened with us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:05] <liam> how do i check for updates
[12:05] <mx> actually, i still can't ping it =/
[12:06] <Xcalibur> i get request timed out
[12:06] <Xcalibur> its there, maybe server errors?
[12:06] <mx> 13 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 12031ms
[12:06] <mx> 2 minutes lol
[12:06] <klerfayt> Sanne: opening 1.5GB rar file takes less than 1second, so I don't know what went wrong with tar.bz2...
[12:06] <mx> wait, nvm
[12:08] <Sanne> klerfayt: hmm, I never opened a rar file that big, but I opened a lot of bz2 files far smaller than yours and I knwo it took quite some time. That's why I thought you should maybe try it again and give it more time.
[12:08] <liam> the biggest rar file i opened was 8 gb and it took about 3 seconds