| andreasn | gnome-games might need some new graphics | 12:08 |
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| PingunZ | andreasn, I was actually more asking what programs / guides / .. to use. I want to learn using free software instead of photoshop. | 12:10 |
| andreasn | PingunZ: ah, I see | 12:10 |
| PingunZ | Learn making gtk themes and metacity's :) | 12:10 |
| PingunZ | Bah, I'm still young so I have got plenty of time -_- | 12:10 |
| andreasn | PingunZ: have you given Inkscape a try? | 12:10 |
| PingunZ | Not really | 12:11 |
| andreasn | you should try it out, it's really | 12:11 |
| andreasn | nice | 12:11 |
| PingunZ | And what about XaraLX ? | 12:11 |
| andreasn | I haven't tried it, but the developers seems like nice guys | 12:13 |
| PingunZ | So I start using inkscape and xaraLX, what is next :) | 12:14 |
| PingunZ | I want to be able to make art like you guys do :) | 12:14 |
| andreasn | read some tutorials or create something nice you feel is needed | 12:15 |
| andreasn | like new stuff for gnome-games (or whatever you pick) | 12:15 |
| andreasn | and ask someone for advice when you feel you need help | 12:16 |
| andreasn | and then just draw, draw, draw | 12:16 |
| andreasn | :) | 12:16 |
| PingunZ | Ok, so once I'm able to use these programs, I learn making metacity/gtk themes ? | 12:16 |
| andreasn | no, that is good for doing mockups and graphics | 12:17 |
| andreasn | I think there are some good tutorials on how to do metacity themes somewhere | 12:18 |
| PingunZ | dont search the link now | 12:18 |
| andreasn | http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html | 12:18 |
| PingunZ | I'll ask them once I'm a inkscape-xaralx-gimp master :) | 12:18 |
| andreasn | you can also visit #gnome-art, there are some people who done a metacity-theme or two in their days in there | 12:19 |
| PingunZ | ok | 12:20 |
| PingunZ | well, I'm going for a nap. bye all | 12:20 |
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| troy_s | ping | 03:12 |
| troy_s | who lives? | 03:13 |
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| PingunZ | Hmm, what should I learn first ? Inkscape, Gimp or XaraLX ? | 10:50 |
| Madpilot | Inkscape | 10:51 |
| PingunZ | Ok :) | 10:51 |
| Madpilot | then Gimp, which frankly has an awful UI. | 10:52 |
| Madpilot | Inkscape's UI rocks | 10:52 |
| PingunZ | I'll make a scalable Tux then :) | 10:52 |
| PingunZ | I'm used to photoshop | 10:52 |
| PingunZ | But I want to use free software :) | 10:52 |
| Madpilot | Very cool Inkscape textbook online: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/ | 10:52 |
| Madpilot | Also, Iinkscape's built-in help & tutorials are first-rate | 10:53 |
| PingunZ | How long does it take to learn inkscaping if you know your way around in photoshop ? | 10:53 |
| kwwii_ | inkscape is pure vector, photoshop is a bitmap program | 10:53 |
| kwwii_ | so it might take a while | 10:53 |
| Madpilot | not long, it's actually a much simpler program, but you can do stuff easily in it that's very hard/impossible in PS or GIMP | 10:53 |
| PingunZ | A while : a week, a month, a year ? | 10:53 |
| kwwii_ | but if you are used to adobe illustrator, it isn't too hard to change | 10:54 |
| PingunZ | Only photoshop .. | 10:54 |
| PingunZ | I learned a LOT of photoshop by following crystalxp.net 's howto for making a Tux. | 10:55 |
| Madpilot | PingunZ, there's a very good inkscape-users mailing list | 10:56 |
| PingunZ | Madpilot: I get enough mail IMO :) | 10:56 |
| Madpilot | heh, I know the feeling. | 10:56 |
| PingunZ | Gnome-art and Ubuntu-art is kinda enough for me. | 10:57 |
| Madpilot | inkscape-users isn't very busy, and all the inkscape devs post there too, which is nice | 10:57 |
| PingunZ | Well I going to unsubcribe gnome-art anyway when their splash is done. | 10:57 |
| PingunZ | inkscape is a wierd program. | 11:06 |
| Madpilot | yes, but in a good way. :) | 11:06 |
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| Madpilot | just keep reminding yourself that it's **not** Photoshop ;) | 11:06 |
| lapo | hi | 11:07 |
| PingunZ | hey lapo | 11:07 |
| Madpilot | hi lapo | 11:07 |
| PingunZ | Well madpilot, I noticed that :D Its nice, probably better then photoshop. I just have to learn use it :) | 11:07 |
| lapo | ciao PingunZ, Madpilot | 11:07 |
| Madpilot | PingunZ, ya, go thru the tutorial exercises in that tavmjong.free.fr link I gave you, they helped me a lot to get a good grasp on what Inkscape is capable of | 11:08 |
| PingunZ | Madpilot: I'm doing that now. | 11:11 |
| PingunZ | The problem is that it is a HUGE book :) | 11:11 |
| PingunZ | But its worth it. | 11:12 |
| Madpilot | skip right to the example/tutorial section, and refer back to the rest of the thing as needed | 11:17 |
| PingunZ | I'm making the swedish flag now -_- | 11:18 |
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| fschoep | cbx33: ping | 11:31 |
| PingunZ | hey fschoep | 11:32 |
| fschoep | Hi PingunZ | 11:32 |
| fschoep | brb | 11:38 |
| cbx33 | fschoep: pong | 11:38 |
| cbx33 | been waiting for your call bud :p | 11:38 |
| cbx33 | got a pm window all ready :p | 11:38 |
| PingunZ | cbx33: he's gone ;) | 11:38 |
| cbx33 | oh shute | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | dang it dang it | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | I turn away fro 5 seconds | 11:39 |
| PingunZ | :) | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | if hew comes back | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | and I don't immediately reply....tell him I will be back | 11:40 |
| PingunZ | ok ;) | 11:40 |
| cbx33 | i can't beleive I missed him | 11:42 |
| PingunZ | He'll be right back he said. | 11:42 |
| cbx33 | is inkscape really that good iyho PingunZ ? | 11:46 |
| PingunZ | Not yet :) | 11:46 |
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| cbx33 | i used to run ps6.0 under wine | 11:47 |
| PingunZ | cbx33: Are you on photoshop too ? | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | fschoep: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 11:47 |
| fschoep | I'm back | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | PingunZ: but it's broken under dapper :( | 11:47 |
| fschoep | Hey cbx33, sorry I just missed you | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | sorry I missed you | 11:47 |
| PingunZ | lol | 11:47 |
| fschoep | No problem, got some time? | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | I have a pm ready | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | PingunZ: what about adjustment layers? | 11:47 |
| fschoep | OK, let's go then (I don't see the PM yet) | 11:48 |
| PingunZ | cbx33: in photoshop or inkscape ? | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | inkscape | 11:48 |
| PingunZ | cbx33: I started inkscape 15 minutes ago :) | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | oh | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | heheheh | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | ok np | 11:48 |
| PingunZ | I'm kinda learning it :D | 11:49 |
| PingunZ | He's not online on msn either.. | 11:50 |
| PingunZ | Oh, sorry wrong channel | 11:50 |
| PingunZ | bah | 11:50 |
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| PingunZ | Wohoo, I draw a swedish flag in inkscape -_- | 12:09 |
| PingunZ | fschoep: Can I pm you about the Forum-idea ? | 12:09 |
| fschoep | PingunZ: sure, I might reply slower than usual but go ahead | 12:09 |
| PingunZ | Ok :) | 12:10 |
| PingunZ | ping troy_s | 12:21 |
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| PingunZ | hey andreasn | 12:30 |
| andreasn | hi PingunZ | 12:30 |
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| troy_s | go PingunZ -- | 02:22 |
| troy_s | not much time here this morning. | 02:23 |
| PingunZ | troy_s: can I pm you about the Forum Idea -- I heard you don't like it at all | 02:23 |
| troy_s | not that i don't like it at all... | 02:31 |
| troy_s | let me stress that. | 02:31 |
| troy_s | I have used forums and all before, but right now, with our current state of artwork team | 02:31 |
| troy_s | i think it is most useful to apply occkham's razor | 02:31 |
| troy_s | while trying to integrate into the rest of the Ubuntu development team as much as possible. | 02:31 |
| troy_s | Does that make sense PingunZ? | 02:32 |
| PingunZ | troy_s: what does occham's razor mean ? | 02:32 |
| troy_s | Good Google term for you I suppose ;) | 02:33 |
| troy_s | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor | 02:33 |
| troy_s | Ockham's Occam etc. | 02:34 |
| PingunZ | troy_s: Is it ok if I pm you about it ? | 02:36 |
| troy_s | of course pingunz | 02:39 |
| PingunZ | ok | 02:40 |
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