user__arg. hi.  can someone tell me the quickest way to change the screensaver settings in default dapper?12:00
pianoboy3333I compiled amarok 1.4.2 and I guess it didn't get put into my bin12:00
nosseok, this is bropably dum, but I'm using irssi and is there any way to see the whole topic? it's longer than my screen is wide12:01
StoneNoteuser__, a shotgun12:01
kaotpianoboy3333: coulda gone into /opt or /usr/local/ by default12:01
pianoboy3333lamego: where can I find the binary that I can link to?12:01
pianoboy3333lemme look12:01
ravenousnosse: well you can /topic but as far as showing it the whole time i dunno12:01
nossefirst time ever to see so long topic12:01
lamegopianoboy3333, : sudo apt-get install amarok12:01
pianoboy3333lamego: I need mtp support12:01
user__StoneNote: ... is that in the accessories menu... :-p12:02
anthony__david, you there still?12:02
qatsiATI isnt supported for Xgl right >12:02
thofflanduser_: System/screensaver12:02
kaotqatsi: depends.  I've got a Mobility 9000 / R250, it works on mine12:02
ravenousqatsi: of course it is12:02
lamegoqatsi, it's not ? I have used XGL with my Radeon 960012:02
pianoboy3333qatsi: I have my radeon working with xgl....12:02
thofflanduser_: if your using Gnome desktop... if your using KDE I cant help12:02
qatsidarn !! so, why cant i use xgl with my Radeon 9550 ?? anyone has a good tutorial ?12:03
qatsior howto, or anything ?12:03
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:03
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jake1I have a Lucent Technologies card that supposebly says Orinocco on it......... is there a particular way to tell which driver it is using on Ubuntu12:03
StoneNoteuser_ KDE is Settings | Appearance & Themes | Screensaves12:03
pirx67jrib: The change in the sources list fixed the problem with the missing dependency of libid3tag0. Thank you and bye.12:03
jake1at this point12:03
qatsilamego: you have the same card as me, does it work smoothly ?12:03
kaotqatsi: the one I used:  http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=38912:03
lamegoqatsi, make sure you have the 3d driver installed to start with :)12:03
lamegoqatsi, yes it does12:03
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thofflandcan anyone tell me if it's necessary to install the service packs for windows when using them in VMWare?12:04
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qatsilamego: i have direct rendering working at 1700 fps...thats the only thing i know...12:04
kaotvideo playback is a bit rough, I've heard that's the case across all ATIs for some reason.12:04
kaot(in Xgl)12:04
user__thoffland: gnome (default Ubuntu), but ... i don't see screensaver under system/preferences or system/administration (or system/)12:04
castillohelp!!! i'm new at ubuntu and i don't know how to install programs12:04
markrianthoffland: depends what you mean12:04
StoneNotethoffland, you mean when running windows as a virtual appliance?12:04
erUSULthoffland: no more nor less that is neccessary in any other machine i guess12:04
kaotcastillo: System-> administration -> synaptic12:04
lamegocastillo, help.ubuntu.com the guide is nice12:05
sethkuser__, look for screen configuration12:05
thofflandok, thanks12:05
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gre1i have an aol account but it wont work in gaim all though all my aim acoounts work how do if that?12:05
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gre1srry typos12:05
lamegodoes gaim supports the aim protocol ?12:06
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thofflandi'm just using XP Pro as a virtual machine on my Dapper system... to run Flash and Dreamweaver... they dont require it on install, but I was just wondering if there was a reason I should try to install it12:06
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livingdaylightanyone have experience of using Enlightenment?12:06
gre1i have 2 aim accounts on it12:06
gre11 aol one12:06
castillothanks, but the problem is that i want to install yahoo messenger and it doesn't appear in the list12:06
gre1but the other aol won wont work12:06
erUSULlamego: well it began being Gnome AIM --> gaim ;)12:06
castilloand i already downloaded it12:06
gre1its reall old aol account12:06
kaotlivingdaylight: I've used it, only e16 though and not for a long time.12:06
lamegoerUSUL, ok :P12:06
user__sethk: system/preferences/'screen resolution' is the closest thing i see12:06
Blacklighthey guys, i need some help.12:07
Blacklighti just downloaded both Wine files using synaptic pakage manager, how do i install them or access them?12:07
livingdaylightkaot: did you compile it or use synaptic to install12:07
gre1whats wrong w/ it?12:07
kaotuser__: you don't see screensaver right beneath that?12:07
thofflanduser_: you should see screensaver in there12:07
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sethkuser__, I use kde, so I'm not sure how to find it in gnome.  In kde you can right click on an empty part of the desktop12:07
lamegoBlacklight, you run it from the terminal: wine program.exe12:07
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user__kaot: no, i see 'sessions'12:07
kaotlivingdaylight: lately I used synaptic, but I only used it for about 10 minutes under ubuntu12:07
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dark0wlcan someone read me the command for configuring keyboard ?12:07
Blacklightterminal ay?12:07
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livingdaylightkaot: so, i can instill in ubuntu using synaptic, what happens then?12:08
user__sethk: yah.  i just want gnome's "sensible" defaults to be more telepathic for me..12:08
livingdaylightkaot: do i reboot?12:08
sethkuser__, telepathic?  :)12:08
livingdaylightkaot: and do i keep the choice of using gnome window manager or englighenment12:08
kaotlivingdaylight: you should simply be able to log out, and then click "sessions" on your gdm login screen and switch to enlightenment.  Yes, you still have the choice of which to use.12:09
user__sethk: they should read my mind to find out what's sensible for me!  (kde is more convenient when i need to find something)12:09
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livingdaylightkaot: thanks. Just needed reassuring.12:09
silentjlivingdaylight : do you use englighenment? is it good? Is it anything like Fluxbox ? I like fluxbox becaused of all the cool colors and stuff but it is like to damn hard to configure/// Heard Englightenment was good tho???12:09
livingdaylightkaot: it doesn't adversely affect ubuntu install in any way12:09
nossevould it be nice if those links in the topic would be on one website?12:10
dark0wlcan someone read me the command for configuring keyboard ?12:10
kaotlivingdaylight: no it doesn't.  if you don't like it you can take it right out via synaptic12:10
jake1is there a way to do this12:10
Blacklighter... when you say terminal what do you mean?12:10
kaotsilentj: enlightenment is far more flexible and configurable than fluxbox, but a little wonky in my experience.  Not a bad wm, all in all.12:10
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jake1you mean what is the terminal?12:10
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jake1are you familiar with the term console?12:11
livingdaylightsilentj: no, haven't used it yet. Read a cool article about enlightenment and fluxbox in Linux Journal which has inspired me to try it. I chose Enlightenment over fluxbox because of the promise of animated background12:11
silentjkoat, you think its better than gnome?12:11
Blacklightif its a linux term... no12:11
castillohow can i install yahoo messenger, please if someone knows...12:11
jake1BlackLight: are you a linux user?12:11
Blacklightonly new12:11
StoneNoteBlacklight, like a windows c prompt box in a window.12:11
silentjI like Gnome but the thing that sucks is you really cant customize it alot12:11
castilloi need help12:11
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StoneNotebut more12:11
jake1well you should DEFINATELY familiarize your self with the terminal12:11
ravenouslivingdaylight: pretty sure animated backgrounds are only in e1712:11
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jake1you will be spending lots of time there12:12
DaveKIm finding that quite often apps cant be run properly without using sudo. such as gimp cant open images or xsane cant open the scanner drivers is there a fix for this or a solution12:12
jake1it's how you control the system12:12
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kaotsilentj: enlightenment?  well, as far as I know they stopped major development on E16, and have moved onto E17, which isn't done yet.  E16 is therefore lacking a bit of the polish Gnome has, and also its default setup isn't as accessible as Gnome's12:12
jake1it's like MSDOS in the sense that it is all text based12:12
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silentjkoat I see12:12
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livingdaylightravenous: Yes, e17. Does ubuntu not have that version?12:12
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kaotsilentj: but depending on what you're looking for, it could be better than Gnome12:12
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kaotsilentj: it is, as I've said, ridiculously configurable12:13
ravenouslivingdaylight: nope, it has 16 .. 17 is still beta and has to be compiled from CVS12:13
eternalswdI have sun java installed, how do I compile .java files with it?12:13
livingdaylightravenous: that's what made me want to try it!12:13
Blacklightwell ive got the terminal open12:13
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thofflandsilentJ: I use fluxbox on my other machine, only tried Enlightenment briefly, but I like fluxbox much better. At least for my 128mb 800mhz laptop12:13
livingdaylightravenous: arrgh...12:13
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StoneNoteBlacklight, cool. I'll have a big mac, large fries...12:13
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kaotthoffland: I ran enlightenment on a 600mhz athlon, 128MB ram, ran pretty well for all that.12:13
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Blacklightwould you like to upsize that for a dollar?12:13
kaotthat was forever ago, though.12:13
StoneNoteBlacklight, supersize me12:14
kaotI was used to a certain degree of sluggishness.  :\12:14
silentjwhat do you suggest as far as an alternate UI? Gnome is cool but I wanna change my window colors for example ya know alot more transperancys ect. I have a super fast machine so its not for speed, just eyecandy12:14
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sharperguyWho's on secondlife?12:14
Blacklightim sorry, we dont have supersize in australia12:14
kaotsilentj: look into Compiz12:14
sharperguyoops, wrong channel12:14
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:14
silentjkoat : ahh yes, In my dreams12:14
StoneNoteBlacklight, nevermind that. why is there vegamite on my mac?12:14
bEDOcan anyone help me .. and give a room for begginners12:14
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silentjkoat, 3 times I tried to install XGL 3 times i had to reinstall Ubin212:14
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kaotsilentj: otherwise, yeah, I'd say give enlightenment a shot.  You'll have to do some research to learn everything you can configure with it12:15
Blacklightoh yeh, did i forget to tell you we eat kangaroo meat daily? *cough* fool*cough*12:15
DaveKBlacklight -- offtopic12:15
Blacklightall i want to know is how to run wine12:15
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jake1can anyone tell me what driver my wireless card is using12:15
kaotsilentj: I had a few nice screenshots from years ago, where my desktop was 4 differently-tinted transparent terms (Red, purple, blue, green), transparent xchat windows, etc12:15
DaveKsudo wine12:15
jake1there needs to be a command12:15
jake1i jst dnt know what it is12:15
kaotsilentj: I can't find them though, unfortunately12:15
DaveKor just type wine12:15
StoneNoteBlacklight, apt-get install wine ... do you have the repsoitories in your sources.list in /etc/apt/ ?12:15
DaveKno offence12:16
bEDOcan anyone help me here12:16
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Blacklighthold on12:16
DaveKbut i have asked a questio 2x12:16
DaveKIm finding that quite often apps cant be run properly without using sudo. such as gimp cant open images or xsane cant open the scanner drivers is there a fix for this or a solution12:16
thofflandbEDO: ask your question?12:16
DaveKand now a third12:16
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pianoboy3333bEDO: ok, what's the problem?12:16
Blacklighttoo many people speaking :S12:16
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bEDOi wanna channel or someplace for begginers ..12:16
Blacklighti got the files off synaptic package manager12:16
thofflandbEDO: I think this is it\12:16
pianoboy3333bEDO: please just ask you question12:16
mutketernalswd, http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/unix.html  <---12:17
StoneNoteBlacklight, synaptic uses apt's sources.list so that's fine12:17
bEDOwell but i need to ask some primitave questions !!12:17
peteweezbEDO: Just ask your question here...people are usually happy to help12:17
debnub_is there a channel for networking?12:17
jake1ok wtf?12:17
Jack_SparrowbEDO: no problem. just ask12:17
pianoboy3333bEDO: please, just ask your question12:17
jake1what command tells me what driver my wireless card is using12:17
bEDOinfact .. i like linux system .. and the idea of open sources ..12:17
vgejake lspci12:17
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bEDOand i have tried the live CD of ubuntu and liked it so much ..12:18
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jake1bEDo ask question12:18
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:18
bEDObut before getting involved i wanna make sure if i won't regret it12:18
jake1bEDo what would make you regret it?12:18
pianoboy3333bEDO: that's really something only you can decide12:18
bEDOand how much time do i need to adapt to it ..12:18
kaotbEDO: lay hands on a second hard drive,then.  That way you could always yank it and go back to windows.12:18
jake1do you like your first born child12:18
peteweezbEDO ppl here don't flame (usually)12:18
wifiworkshow do i cp a dir?12:19
kaotwifiworks: cp -R12:19
wifiworkscp /sdjl/ /klsdfjklsdf/12:19
debnub_is there a irc channel for networking?12:19
wifiworksman i dum12:19
thofflandwifiworks: use sudo12:19
_lupinewifiworks: cp -a is iusually a better idea12:19
vgebEDO: you might be safer with KDE if your coming from windows12:19
sethkwifiworks, sometimes cp -a is better.  check man cp12:19
debnub_Hi everyone. need help configuring my home network. 1 laptop+1box+adsl router. name resolution problem i think12:19
peteweezdebnub_: try /list #net*12:19
peteweezthat might have networking channels12:19
Jack_Sparrowdebnub: That covers a lot of ground.. could you be more specific12:19
bEDOok .. the second question12:19
kaotoh neat.  Never used cp -a.12:19
bEDOi have laptop centrino 1.612:20
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bEDOand have an old pached pc .. 45o p312:20
wifiworkswhat if i want to cp to the curent dir do i have to type the destination path again or is there a trick12:20
bEDOwith 490 mb Rams12:20
longwavewifiworks: just use a . for the current dir12:20
_lupine"." is a symlink to the current DIR12:20
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_lupine".." is one dir up12:20
bEDOcan i run ubunto on that12:20
_lupine"..." doesn't exist ;)12:20
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_lupine(../.. does, however)12:20
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wifiworks_lupine: ah i  see no i get cd . .  hehe12:20
peteweezbEDO: try Debian...it has very low system requirements12:21
_lupinebEDO: shouls be able to12:21
peteweezubuntu might work12:21
thofflandbEDO: yes, I run it on a laptop that has 128mb ram pIII ... but it might be slow12:21
longwavebEDO: yes, ubuntu will run on that, though the gnome desktop will probably be rather slow. you could try xubuntu which works better on lower-end hardware.12:21
_lupineIF unsure, xubuntu will run on anything12:21
wifiworksok sudo cp -aR   and i cant go wrong12:21
D0wnI need some help installing libqt3-mt. Everytime I do a "dpkg -i libqt3-mt_3.3.6-4_i385.deb" I get an error12:21
mckinnojSo I decided to give Amarok a try, but it is amazingly slow.  Any ideas?  I don't think it's my machine, as I have a 3GHz processor and 1 gig of RAM12:21
thofflandyes, xubuntu is nice too12:21
acidianhow do I open a windows shared folder by ip in console?12:21
_lupinebut my PC is 5123MB RAM, and it runs KDE fine12:21
peteweezDOwn: does it say it'll break packages or something?12:21
_lupineerm, 512MB ;)12:21
kaotwifiworks: -aR is actually redundant, as -a implies -R12:21
acidianlike I want to open a folder thats shared on
amonkeyare there any caveats to using xfs in ubuntu? I'm going to have a 500gb partition filled with very large files and read it was better for them.12:21
bEDOwhat is the diference between Ubunto and Xubunto !!12:21
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_lupinexUbuntu uses the XFCE desktop; Ubuntu uses Gnome12:22
longwavedorel__: why are you using dpkg? libqt3-mt is available in the repositories12:22
_lupine(Kubuntu uses KDE)12:22
bEDOso i need a different version12:22
_lupineunlike windows, you have a choice of desktop :)12:22
longwavesorry, D0wn: why are you using dpkg? libqt3-mt is available in the repositories12:22
bEDOor it is an option in instrallation ?12:22
kaotacidian: check Places -> Network Servers if you're in gnome12:22
_lupinedifferent CDs12:22
_lupineTBH, you would be fine with Ubuntu12:22
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acidiankaot: I need to do it in terminal12:22
debnub_peteweez: thanks, i've learned how to search a channell. zero hits :)12:23
peteweezD0wn: libqt3c102-mt (older ver) is incompatible with libqt3-mt (newer ver), so you need to recompile apps that are compiled against libqt3c102-mt12:23
peteweezdebnub_: oh sorry12:23
bEDObut all of them have the same way to work .. and same results ?12:23
longwavedebnub_: if your question is related to networking on ubuntu, ask it here12:23
D0wnI'm trying to install Skype, and it requires libqt3-mt12:23
kaotacidian: ah.  Got a name for the computer or does it have to be ip?12:23
acidianname works12:23
Blacklightwhen i type wine PROGRAM into the terminal to boot it, it says: "c:\\windows\\system32\\PROGRAM.exe" why is it trying to run off windows?12:23
_lupinebEDO: it's basically the eye candy that differs12:23
longwaveD0wn: what does "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt" say?12:23
D0wnNo luck12:23
acidiankaot: isnt ip and name the same?12:24
longwaveD0wn: exactly what is the error message, though12:24
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peteweezD0wn: does it say you have to remove packages to install libqt3-mt?12:24
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_lupineeither one will run linux applications equally well12:24
_lupineD0wn: try using aptitude. It's smarter than apt-get12:24
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bEDOok .. if i got a new pc .. is there any recommendations for the system12:24
anthonyheya how do I change language in OOo to English (UK) ? I keep changing it, but it keeps flicking back..... any ideas anyone?12:24
kaotacidian: depends.  anyway you should be able to just say mount -t smbfs //(ipaddress)/(share name) /mountpoint/foo12:24
bEDOand can i install both windows and ubunto ?12:24
_lupinenVidia graphics card is my only suggestion12:24
pianoboy3333bEDO: yes.... it's complicated though12:25
kaotacidian: where mountpoint is the directory you want the share to hang off of12:25
_lupineYou can dual-boot win and lin no problems12:25
_lupineit is trivial12:25
kaotacidian: all that is sudo of course12:25
acidiankaot: ok Ill try that12:25
_lupinesplit the hard drive into two, install windows first12:25
erUSULbEDO: yes make sure you install windows first12:25
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debnub_longwave: yes now running winxp on a dualboot system (xp+ubuntu). also have a box and a dsl-router. winxp works fine, all internet services running. on ubuntu only partial services. updates ok but no www.12:25
peteweezD0WN: Why don't you put your error message in a pastebin??12:25
D0wnI am12:25
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D0wnIt's loading12:25
peteweezok good12:25
manuxANyone can help me with a surecom ep-9428 wireless pcmcia board12:26
manuxIt doesn't work12:26
manuxI've use ndiswrapper but the return message is invalid drivers12:26
peteweezmanux: is your card broken or do you need drivers?12:26
bEDOthnx ppl for the help ..12:26
thofflandWhen I tried running GTKPod I get a segmentation error... anyone have some insight on this?12:27
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bEDOhope soon i'll ask more important questions12:27
manuxpeteweez: I need drivers12:27
thofflandbEDO: good luck!! have fun with it!12:27
kaotmanux: what chipset does the card use?12:27
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manuxkaot: rtl818012:27
kaotmanux: not familiar with that one, sorry12:27
mutkbEDO, In Linux world, 'diving in and exploring' is a good way to learn..12:27
bEDOHope So .. i like the idea.. and it seems better in some aspects ..12:27
peteweezmanux: sounds like it might be atheros12:27
peteweezthat needs madwifi12:27
longwavedebnub_: do you use automatic configuration (DHCP) on xp and ubuntu, or have you had to enter manual settings on either OS?12:28
peteweezmanux: driver for atheros chipsets...I think it's in ubuntu12:28
D0wnpeteweez: http://pastebin.com/77928212:28
debnub_longwave: using static ip on every os.12:28
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MorphboyMy Ubuntu crashed while I was upgrading to LT 6.06 LTS so I had to reboot. Now it's fucked! How do I take it back to scratch? I don't care about my files.12:28
peteweezD0wn:ok hold on12:28
manuxoh, I understand12:28
lamegoMorphboy, just insert the cd and install it12:29
thofflandMorphboy: can you just reinstall from the live cd?12:29
longwavedebnub_: you are using the same static ip on xp and ubuntu including netmask, default gateway and dns server entries?12:29
MorphboyI don't have the CD anymore12:29
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Morphboyis there any way to install it again through root?12:29
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debnub_longwave: yes. i've set my router as the dns server12:29
thofflandMorphboy: if you have a terminal, sudo apt-get -f install12:29
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peteweezD0WN: did you try apt-get update?12:30
longwaveMorphboy: you can try setting your sources.list to use dapper then "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade", it may still finish the upgrade12:30
MorphboyI have a recovery terminal.. are you sure that will be able to access the intarhnet?12:30
D0wnWill try12:30
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thofflandlongwave's idea is better...12:30
D0wnIt finished12:31
ciscosurferare the forums down?12:31
Morphboynah I prefer Breezy Badger, or at least a friend told me it's better12:31
D0wnNow it's working12:31
kaotciscosurfer: I dunno, what would the difference be?  :O12:31
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kaotI keed, I keed!12:31
wifiworksshould i give ndiswrapper xp 98 or 2k drivers?12:31
longwavedebnub_: does it resolve anything if you try "nslookup www.google.com" at the terminal on the ubuntu box?12:31
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peteweezD0WN: Did it solve your problem?12:31
ciscosurferkaot: they'd be up12:31
D0wnYeah, I think so. Thanks :D12:32
silentj_Hey all, I have a question, I want to download this cool system monitor thing, it like docks itself to your desktop It tells you your CPU speed, temp, time, gives you email allerts ect. But Ive no idea what its called anyone help me out? I saw it once on DSL linux12:32
peteweezD0wn: sure...happy I could help!12:32
MorphboyBut how will I be able to access the internet through recovery terminal? I dont even know how to activate eth012:32
debnub_longwave. yep12:32
thofflandsilentJ: Gkrellm or Torsmo12:32
sunbugI tried to install "gnome" with apt, but wwhen i try gdm or startx i get: X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting. Any ideas?12:32
longwaveMorphboy: you should try dapper before you go back to breezy, *you* might like it better even if your friend doesn't ;)12:32
longwavedebnub_: so that works, but browsing from say firefox doesn't?12:32
Jack_SparrowMorphboy: HArd to say you prefer one os over another if you have NOT tried the other one..12:32
thofflandeefmraimundo: what's up12:32
debnub_longwave. exactly12:32
jake1what command will tell me what driver my wireless card is using12:33
longwavedebnub_: did you configure a proxy in firefox?12:33
Morphboyalright.. Ill try to find a new CD and turn it on fire (burn it)12:33
Jack_Sparrowjake1: terminal lspci -v12:33
ciscosurferis there a Garnome channel?12:33
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debnub_longwave: please dont beat me up. firefox is runnig fine. :)12:33
Jack_Sparrowjake1: It is a start..12:33
anthony heya how do I change language in OOo to English (UK) ? I keep changing it, but it keeps flicking back..... any ideas anyone?12:33
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peteweezciscosufer: try "/list *Garnome* "12:34
longwavedebnub_: uhm so there is no problem here? it has fixed itself? :)12:34
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MorphboyWhy is Ubuntu so hated among some people? I want an honest reply for myself to work from, not just a convincing attitude12:34
Morphboy*channel turns silent*12:34
longwaveanthony: that works fine for me (i'm in the UK), do you have the openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb package installed?12:34
thofflandI dont think anyone in here hates it Morphboy... you might be asking the wrong crowd12:35
nickspoonMorphboy: depends what group of people you mean.12:35
Juhazwhy don't you ask them? you probably won't find any ubuntu haters here12:35
longwaveyou aren't going to get people hating ubuntu in here, except the trolls who get banned quick enough12:35
kaotMorphboy: because given a large enough cross section of people, you'll find a group of people who hate anything you care to name.12:35
anthonylongwave, not sure: how do I instal it?12:35
debnub_longwave: just one more thing.nslookup output said server: i think it means my router is acting as a domain server right? is that ok?12:35
Jack_SparrowMorphboy: It has money behind it.. It has people using it it has people supporting it,  Not silent12:35
Morphboyroger all12:35
kaotMorphboy: for a better answer, ask a sociologist.  :\12:35
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XenguyMorphboy: you've probably been listening to some bad-tempered Debian fanboys =)12:35
StoneNoteMorphboy, why would you come to an ubuntu channel to find people who hated ubuntu? maybe try searching on "ubuntu+sucks" or "I hate ubuntu"12:36
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levanderCan I run ubuntu breezy off the LiveCD with 80MB's of RAM?12:36
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MorphboyIll be sticking to Ubuntu anyway.. easy interface for a winnub like me ^_^12:36
levanderJack_Sparrow: you've tried it?12:36
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Jack_Sparrowlevander: specs call for a minimum of 25612:36
thofflandOK, thanks for the help peoples! CYA12:37
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Morphboylataz, thanks for assistance. <312:37
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longwaveanthony: go to system > administration > synaptic package manager and search for "openoffice en-gb"12:37
stirmananyone know if it's possible to install Ubuntu on an Intel based mac, without losing the data on the hd?12:38
magus_xwhat package should i download to be able to compile the kernel?12:38
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild12:38
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: start with build-essentials12:38
longwavedebnub_: yes, most dsl routers act as a dns server, that's fine12:38
z\sudo apt-get update12:39
z\sudo apt-get install build-essential12:39
z\sudo apt-get install kernel-package12:39
z\sudo apt-get install gcc12:39
z\sudo apt-get install libncurses512:39
z\sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev12:39
z\sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev12:39
magus_xJack_Sparrow, : well, all i need is install a module12:39
anthonylongwave, but of course!  yeah it's installed12:39
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x:  ANy particular reason you feel you need to compile your own12:39
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z\magus_x: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/CompilazioneKernel?highlight=%28compilazione%29%7C%28kernel%2912:39
debnub_longwave: gaim is not working! :)12:39
magus_xJack_Sparrow, : well, all i need is install a module12:39
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: What module do you need12:39
longwaveanthony: where are you trying to set the language?12:40
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magus_xi need run cd images12:40
erUSUL!paste > z\12:40
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magus_xbut not iso, because i know how mount them, i need run .ccd12:40
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: .iso's?12:40
z\erUSUL i'm sorry12:40
longwaveanthony: for me it works if i open Writer then go to tools > options > language settings > languages > default language for documents > western12:40
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Pretorianoz\ lol12:41
magus_xJack_Sparrow, : sorry, bad english12:41
[g2] is there a way to not have the CDROM eject on dapper during the shutdown ?12:41
silentjI have a question... I want to change my home folder.. For example,.. now my home folder is /home/blue I want to change it to /home/red is there any way to do this? I tried to sudo change the file name but then nothing worked haha12:41
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magus_xi need be able to mount ccd's12:41
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: As long as you know what you want and why you need it.. great..12:41
anthonylongwave, tools -> options -> language settings -> languages -> default languages for docs -> western -> english (GB)12:41
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Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: Too many feel they Must have the latest and have no reason why.12:41
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z\hi pretoriano.12:41
ciscosurferAny Garnome experts here??12:41
[g2] Jack_Sparrow that's a funny nick :)12:41
Pretorianohi, what's up?12:41
anthonylongwave, ok -> type "colour" -> red line12:42
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Jack_Sparrow[g2] : I'm pleased to put a smile on your face..12:42
StoneNote[g2] , Pirates of the Carribean12:42
magus_xwell, i need mount a specific ccd image, any way how with the actual kernel? or i need download the kernel source?12:42
dark0wlcan anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?12:42
anthonylongwave, tools -> options -> ... -> it's back on English (USA)12:42
ciscosurferNo Garnome experts???12:42
peteweezdark0wl: depends on your window manager.12:43
dark0wl<peteweez> im using fluxbox12:43
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x:  Just one image or different images of the same extension.?12:43
magus_xjust one12:43
dark0wland i dont know how to configure my keyboard12:43
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longwaveanthony: hrm actually mine is set to English (UK), i just changed it and saved and reopened and it went back to English (USA), it must take the default from elsewhere... hold on12:43
peteweezdark0wm: do you want to set keyboard shortcuts, like ctrl+alt+del or something?12:43
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Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: Why not convert that one image to an iso.?12:43
dark0wlpeteweez no12:43
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: avoid the whole compile thing12:44
magus_xbut with which program?12:44
magus_xJack_Sparrow, : yeah, i want avoid, but i dont know how i can do12:44
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: Can you not burn a .ccd12:44
peteweezdark0wl: I don't know then...I configured mine when I configured X.12:44
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jake1jack-sparrow the network settings does not show what driver the wireless card is using12:44
magus_xk3b dont opens it12:44
jake1i want to know the name of the driver12:44
ciscosurferLast shot...Anybody here use Garnome?12:44
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magus_xciscosurfer, : Garnome or gnome?12:44
Jack_Sparrowjake1: did it show up in lspci ?12:45
dark0wl<peteweez> do you use gnome ?12:45
ciscosurfermagus_x: Garnome12:45
longwaveanthony: is your keyboard set to UK in system > preferences > keyboards, and English (UK) selected in system > administration > language support?12:45
jake1no it just gave me the driver of my PCMCIA slot\12:45
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mdkanedahey, ive been battling w/ getting Samba configured correctly for days, and no luck. my smb.conf is probably really screwed up by now, What im looking to do is just get a working smb.conf w/ ubuntu, preferably no password necessary for a WinXP machine to logon, can someone take a look at my smb.conf and help me out?12:45
anthonylongwave, should be. one sec12:45
jake1not the card in it12:45
jake1i tried iwconfig12:45
silentjAnyone? I want to change my home folder.. For example,.. now my home folder is /home/blue I want to change it to /home/red is there any way to do this?12:45
aboany one knows if freenet is packaged for ubuntu, or should I instal it as they say on its site?12:45
jake1and under eth2 it says HermesI12:45
jake1but i dnt think that is the driver12:45
Pulshiondoes anyone know how to select certain files in nautilus and make those files play using rhytmbox, i used to just highlight and add to playlist in wmp12:45
WarboIs http://www.ubuntuforums.org down? It isn't loading for me, but it also isn't displaying a 404 page12:45
uniosilentj: create a new account; i don't think you can rename accounts12:46
StoneNotemagus_x, A new distribution of GNOME, based on the GAR ports system by Nick Moffitt. For testing GNOME 2.0 without breaking current GNOME packages12:46
silentjunio really? That sucks ass12:46
dark0wl<peteweez> do you use gnome ?12:46
uniosilentj: yes; unless you want to risk messing up your user account (and possible others?)12:46
anthonylongwave, it's downloading some stuff now..........apparently not all language aids (SP?!?) were installed12:46
erUSULsilentj: System>Admin>Users Choose your user and edit the properties12:47
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WarboPulshion: Rhythmbox is collection-based. You could try drag 'n' drop (I don't use Rythmbox much so I am no sure)12:47
rob_psilentj, man usermod12:47
PulshionWarbo -- whats the best music player?12:47
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.12:47
Jack_Sparrowjake1: !best12:47
silentjVLA player @@!12:47
silentjVLA is gangsta12:47
WarboPulshion: Personally I use Listen, Amarok and XMMS12:47
dark0wlcan anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?12:47
dark0wlcan anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?12:47
silentjVLA works for everything12:47
eternaljoyhow can I completely delete my system of any websites visited?  besides "Clear Private Data" in Firefox and besides using Root Kit Hunter. any other ways to totally CLEAN computer?12:47
longwaveanthony: hrm i don't know what those downloads are, it may fix your problem, but i have found a mention of similar bug on the forums, i am searching launchpad to see if anyone has reported it there12:48
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mutkThe best music player I have is my CD pl;ayer.12:48
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WarboCDs, eww12:48
mr3vilhi @ll. is there a tool to reduce the processor-speed!?12:48
dark0wlcan anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?12:48
anthonylongwave, I found a page on that too - the guys there ended up renaming the language file to force OOo to take that as English (USA)!12:48
PulshionWarbo -- k thanx, drag and drop worked, i just had my blonde moments haha12:48
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abosilentj, unio, setting the $HOME env variable does change the home directory12:49
dark0wlcan anyone tell me the command or configuring keyboard ?12:49
Jack_Sparrow!repeat dark0wl12:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repeat dark0wl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:49
Jack_Sparrow!repeat > dark0wl12:49
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dark0wlcant you just open your menu editr an take a look ?12:49
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mdkanedahow about this, is there atleast a way to revert back to the original smb.conf so i can start over, and try not changing anything? hehe, i tried "completely" removing the samba package and reinstalling, but that left my smb.conf alone12:50
longwaveanthony: yeah, that doesn't sound like a great solution, but i can't find any other fix right now :(12:50
anthonylongwave, no it didn't work :(12:50
longwaveanthony: this is reported in launchpad: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/3593612:50
erUSULmdkaneda: --purge will do the trick12:50
mdkanedaerUSUL: thanx, i'll try giving this another hack12:50
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longwaveanthony: no fix for it as yet though, and openoffice.org claims it's not their problem, it's ubuntu's12:51
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dark0wlCan someone open the menu editor and tell me the command used for keyboard config ?12:51
dark0wlis it too hard ?12:51
delta___Hey guys! I am looking for a gnome panel applet that displays gauges for "free disk", "free mem", "cpu load" and "net load" - preferably looking like a car dashboard's needle that goes from 0% to 100%. Does anyone know of such an application?12:51
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anthonylongwave, pfft yeah right: I remember something like this happening under windows too....12:51
silentjWhat is the favorite Terminal Flavor in the room? I use GnomeTerm only because it came with Ubin2 but I want to try something new, anyone got any suggestions?12:51
WarboNOTE: You can drag menu entries onto the panel to get at their command name. That beats loading Alacarte, which takes AGES12:52
WizCrakerhow do I set the default gateway through cli?12:52
delta___dark0wl: gnome-keyboard-properties12:52
dark0wlthank you very much !12:52
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delta___dark0wl: np12:52
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silentjI mean is there really any difference in terminals?12:53
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delta___silentj: I am using gnome-terminal (again, after a trip through all alternatives I could find)12:53
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StoneNotesilentj, I use gnome-terminal & konsole. I no no preference between the two12:53
StoneNoteI have no^12:53
silentjdelta__ there is no real difference between them?12:53
anthonylongwave, no worries: I'll rename the language pack instead :P thanks for your help dude12:53
delta___silentj: The main differences lie with a) Desktop integration and b) speed12:53
Warbosilentj: I like gnome terminal. Many people might say xterm because it is small, but gnome-terminal is apparently (on GNOME site) quicker than xterm12:53
zenitsilentj: I usually use xterm, becase that one is usually installed by default.12:54
longwaveanthony: yeah it's a dirty fix but openoffice is so convoluted there is probably no easy answer, i'm afraid :(12:54
zeniton different systems that is12:54
silentjsenit yea12:54
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silentjI tried putty i think it was pretty cool, and ther e was one that if you hit F12 it dropped down from the top of your screen dont remember what it was called tho12:55
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silentjAnyone know when XGL will be useable to human beings?12:55
WarboThe main difference in terminals is their speed. For example "dmesg" would output pretty much instantly in a console, but can take ages for a graphical terminal to scroll through it as it outputs12:55
nrdbHi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd can anyone help?12:55
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gnomefreaksilentj: try asking in #ubuntu-xgl they would know more12:55
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anthonyanother problem (!): my connection is periodically reducing to nothing and then booting back  again.  in windows it just went and then had to reboot the router: there was nothing like this. any ideas?12:56
Warbosilentj: Erm.. When someone makes a GUI for it? (which would be a stupid idea)12:56
silentjgnomefreak not that interested haha12:56
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WarboXGL is an X server12:56
delta___nrdb: What exactly goes wrong?12:56
silentjWarbo, when someone makes an install that works12:56
silentjGUI would be nice12:56
Warbopackages would be better12:56
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silentjor something simple like.. apt-get install XGL12:56
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silentjor something12:57
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silentjwould be cool12:57
Yurtlehow can i force ntpdate to run ?12:57
silentjI cant get the damn thing to run for the life of me12:57
nrdbdelta___: nothing works the sound, the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."12:57
livingdaylightgot flumuxed by enlightenment12:57
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silentjwhich sucks cuz its cxool as hell12:57
delta___Yurtle: something like "sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart", I'd suppose12:57
livingdaylightcouldn't find the application menu12:57
silentjWarbo, same here12:57
gnomefreaksilentj: xgl is in dappers repos and as i said take all xgl topics to #ubuntu-xgl please12:57
silentj3 times12:57
liran1for some reason swap stopped operating... its defined in /etc/fstab but swapon doesnt initialize it12:57
Warbosilentj: I am in AiGLX right now, but running GNOME+E1612:57
silentjgnomefreak, calm down dude.12:57
longwaveYurtle: something like "sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov" or another time server of your choice12:58
Bassyi have a noobe (linux) question, i have a file name with a space in the name, and i can't delete or move it, what's the command if your file name has a space in it (sorry for the noobe question)12:58
mjrBassy, "file name"12:58
Yurtlestrange i dont know why its not autorunning on bott.12:58
Yurtleuh boot12:58
delta___Bassy: Use "\ " to escape the space12:58
mjror what delta said12:58
gnomefreaksilentj: than go to #ubuntu-xgl or #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about xgl12:58
Bassythanx guys...12:58
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nrdbBassy: quote the name e.g >ls "my name"12:58
Yurtle29 Aug 16:58:41 ntpdate[13988] : no server suitable for synchronization found12:58
liran1when i run 'swapon -a' i get 'swapon: /dev/sda4: Invalid argument'12:58
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silentjYou know, its like so touchy in here sometimes. Where is the humanity?! Where is the love?! comeon people if someone asks a question, instead of being helpful you take the time to say RTFM or some other useless thing that is no help to anyone12:59
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silentjand XGL is on topic in my opinion12:59
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silentjso :P12:59
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waspiushi...i found this really cool site http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en which has allot of useful apps etc.i am trying to download some things though but nothing is happening..most of the files exist also in a debian extention..can i find them some other way?12:59
Jack_Sparrowsilentj: That is ONLY your opinion01:00
gnomefreaksilentj: you are muted for 10 mins01:00
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Yurtleoh well wierd01:00
redcardFooding :P01:00
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WarboYay forums come up now. I don't know what went wrong01:01
longwaveliran1: is /dev/sda4 your swap device? what is in your /etc/fstab?01:01
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dr_williswaspius,  its proberly worth checking the package manager to see if those apps are allready in the repos.  much better idea to install with synaptic.01:02
anthonymy connection is periodically reducing to nothing and then booting back  again.  in windows it just went and then had to reboot the router: there was nothing like this. any ideas?01:02
liran1longwave: yeah, from fdisk -l its "/dev/sda4            6953        7080     1028160   82  Linux swap / Solaris" and from fstab its "/dev/sda4       none            swap    sw              0       0"01:02
waspiusdr_willis: i use adept and i have not found anything there..01:02
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longwaveliran1: did you run mkswap on that partition since it was created?01:02
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liran1longwave: i noticed im getting "Unable to find swap-space signature" in dmesg01:02
don_jrHello, I'm looking for a good video player for ubuntu, wmv, wma, divx, can anyone recomend one that works well?01:03
longwaveliran1: if it was working before, sounds like maybe the swap got corrupted somehow? mkswap again may fix it01:03
_lupineliran1: you want mkswap#01:03
_lupinethen swapon01:03
liran1swapon itself doesnt work01:03
nrdbHi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd,  the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.", can someone help please ?01:04
liran1ok i was thinking id have to do that01:04
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liran1so mkswap /dev/sda401:04
_lupineyou'll have to sudo, but yes01:04
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jribdon_jr: mplayer is my favorite, xine and vlc are good too (but vlc won't play nice with wmv9 without some extra work)01:04
longwaveliran1: yes, similar to a filesystem, you have to mkswap a swap partition before you can use it01:04
lamegodon_jr, http://help.ubuntu.com Desktop Guider -> 3 Common Tasks -> Video01:04
liran1right, lets see how it goes01:05
grimboyHey, I'm adding a new second graphics card in xorg.conf (Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2064W [Millennium] ) what should I enter for driver?01:05
don_jrmplayer, alright, thank you01:05
dr_williswaspius,  you may need to include the other reposoitories.  see !easysource01:05
_lupinegrimboy: start with vesa01:05
D0wnWhen I try to transfer music to my iPod with GTKPod, I keep getting this message Path not found: '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F19'.01:05
D0wnAnyone got some advice?01:05
nrdbgrimboy: I have something simular it uses the 'mga' driver01:05
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jribdon_jr: just be sure to install w32codecs along with mplayer01:05
jrib!w32codecs > don_jr01:05
liran1great, its initializing fine now.01:05
don_jrjrib will do01:05
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:06
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grimboy_lupine, Thanks! I'll try that for the time being. nrdb, I'll try that if vesa works, thanks01:06
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buccaneerhello all, I have a quick question about ubuntu... does ubuntu have frequency scaling capabilities ... for say a laptop?01:08
jribbuccaneer: yes01:08
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nrdbcan you frequency scale any cpu or does it need special hardware?01:09
longwavebuccaneer: yep, my laptop is throttled to 800mhz right now because it isn't doing much except chatting01:09
buccaneerk, I was curious cause I am thinking about installing it on my laptop but the last thing I want is for the laptop to run hot or for their to be a drain on power because it s always running at the same speed01:09
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jribbuccaneer: mine switches between 1.2 and 1.6 as needed01:09
buccaneerlongwave, did you have to manually set it, or does ubuntu do it for you/01:09
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longwavebuccaneer: ubuntu does it automatically, there is a monitor you can add to a gnome panel to show you what speed it's currently at01:10
waspiusdr_willis: thanx01:10
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!lilo:*! Hi all. Note: we've added a couple of new prefixes recently.... nat/* for corporate gateway users (they'll tend to be fairly low on abuse).... and conference/* for conference gateways01:10
longwavenrdb: i believe you need speedstep or powernow! or similar support in your hardware01:10
buccaneerok, I usually just do a cat on /proc/cpuinfo01:11
longwavebuccaneer: that works too :)01:11
Jack_Sparrowbuccaneer: Reports are that battery life is still better in windows...Implying scaling is better with XP01:11
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GeckoHey, can anyone tell me how to generate ssl certificates for virtual hosts on apache?01:11
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longwaveGecko: you can't run ssl on vhosts because of the way secure HTTP works01:11
longwaveGecko: you need one IP address per SSL host, no way around it01:11
MrFeetiohow do i go about makeing a gdm login?01:11
BackemanHi! Is there a way to fetch data that were on the harddrive before a reformat? I had the same fs before as I have no (ext3).01:12
buccaneerJack_Sparrow,well microsoft has access to proprietory drivers cause they can pay for it .. so it is expected01:12
Geckolongwave: when I examine the host that I now administer, each of the vertual host have their own .pem file... So is what you say true?01:12
Jack_Sparrowbuccaneer: Agreed..01:12
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silentjwow everyone, look at gnomefreaks super mute powers! Gnomefreak your 1337-ness is overwhelming me. Im gonna have to change me undies soon!01:12
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silentjwhat a waste of time01:12
longwaveGecko: well, apache can listen on multiple IPs, so you can do vhosts that way, but you can't do it from just a single IP01:13
buccaneerI usually run freebsd on my lappy ...freebsd has some power adaptive capabilities but somehow I don't feel it is up to par with that offered through ubuntu01:13
StoneNotesilentj, temper tantrums are not helpful01:13
longwavebye silentj01:13
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computerexHey guys. I finnaly got it!01:13
buccaneerI was sampling the live cd and noticed that m machine was running a lot cooler01:13
silentjyea but come on01:13
StoneNotecomputerex, congrats01:13
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silentjwhat was the reason for that?01:13
Jack_Sparrowbuccaneer: The difference is relatively minor...  JUst wanted to admit that XP does it a little better, but not worth using XP for that additional few minutes of battery life01:13
computerexYep. well, sort of...01:13
silentjJust trying to show how cool he is or what?01:13
computerexI got stuck on the prompt for password...01:13
debnubHow can i check my inetd status? and to save changes to it?01:14
nrdbHi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd,  the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.", can someone help please ?01:14
Geckolongwave: each vhost have their own SSLCertificateFile option...01:14
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Jack_Sparrowbuccaneer: My HP lappy runs much cooler as well01:14
mutksilentj, You got it exactly right..01:14
computerexWhats soppose to be my username and password? I know I entered the password, but there was nothing about username...01:14
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computerexI am new to LINUX...01:14
longwaveGecko: read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/https - the last paragraph in the limitations section01:14
jribcomputerex: what are you trying to do?  What prompt?01:14
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debnubcomputerex: run console and write whoami01:14
computerexWhen your installition is done01:14
longwavecomputerex: you were asked for your name during installation, that is your username?01:15
computerexit asks you for the password right? On a really cool yellow screen01:15
nrdbcomputerex: it asks for name and password!01:15
computerexUsername and password01:15
computerexIt does a reboot01:15
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Geckolongwave: yes, I understand that. So I can just copy one of the certificates for this particular ssl host?01:15
computerexThen asks you for a password and a username01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.01:15
longwaveGecko: yes, as long as the domain name matches the SSL certificate of course, you should just be able to specify it in the apache config01:15
Geckolongwave: well, the domain name doesn't match, that's why I wanted to generate a new one01:16
longwaveGecko: you may need a chain certificate or something as well depending on how the original vhost was configured, if you have the same apache config file though it should work fine01:16
computerexI installed ubunto today, it worked smoothly, until the whole install was complete01:16
longwaveGecko: to get a valid one that is accepted by web browsers, you have to pay01:16
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computerexIt rebooted the computer, everything went smooth01:16
computerexBut I didn't know the username or password  ( Corrected Spelling ) 01:16
computerexBut I didnt know the username or password01:16
squellySorry to interrupt, first time on IRC... do I just ask a question, or is there a protocol?01:16
Psykusanyone know how I would keep track of max uptime? I know I can use the 'uptime' command to get the current uptime01:16
Geckolongwave: I just want one that identifies itself as the host that is accessed01:16
comtechcan anyone tell me how to add clonecd .img file compatibility to k3b? or if it's even possible01:16
longwaveGecko: or you can generate your own CA and generate a cert from that, but it will give a warning in any web browser where the CA cert is not installed01:16
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mjrsquelly, just ask01:17
jribcomputerex: it should have asked for a username and a password if you did a regular install.  If you can't remember the username, you can reboot and go to recovery mode, then type 'getent passwd 1000' to see the info for your first user01:17
Geckolongwave: if I wanted to do that, how would I do it?01:17
RicesteamAnyone know whats the difference between cgwd and gnome-compiz?01:17
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jribcomputerex: well that will get you the username at least, I think you said you knew the password right?01:17
Backemanlast Backeman01:17
longwaveGecko: there is a quick method here: http://www.rpatrick.com/tech/makecert/01:18
computerexOh well, will have to reinstall anywa01:18
squellyJust did my first install. THe live CD got out to the internet fine, after install, I only get Server Not Found.01:18
longwaveGecko: i am sure there is more info about this in the apache documentation01:18
jribcomputerex: reinstall why?  Just use recovery mode from the grub menu01:18
computerexthis is XP. Had to reinstall everything. wow. Talk about playing with OSs01:18
computerexI didn't know anything about this, so I reinstalled XP  ( Corrected Spelling ) 01:18
computerexI didnt know anything about this, so I reinstalled XP01:18
cmatheso1does anyone know how to force java to not use the GNOME look and feel? it doesn't work right w/ my gtk-engine01:18
longwaveGecko: also try http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#cert-real01:18
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computerexBTW, when first installing ubuntu, do I install in OEM mode or text mode?01:19
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Fred21i've this problem01:19
don_jrI have no sound, I have an integrated sound board, how can I correct this?01:19
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longwavecomputerex: are you installing from the alternate cd? you want text mode in that case01:19
Fred21i've the problem about the update on 21th august01:19
computerexYes. Alternative file01:19
MrFeetiohow do i make a login screen?01:19
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Fred21i followed the instruction with sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core01:19
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BackemanHi! Is there a way to fetch data that were on the harddrive before a reformat? I had the same fs before as I have no (ext3).01:20
Fred21but i never can't be able to log me01:20
AbstI just fully switched to Ubuntu! Windows is gone!01:20
jribFred21: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue seen this?01:20
Fred21help me if possible01:20
longwaveFred21: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue01:20
Fred21longwave: i followed the instructions but it can't work01:20
longwavecongratulations Abst!01:20
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Fred21longwave: i use be.archive.ubuntu.com and belgacom as mirrors01:20
AbstI'm really liking it. And I think Linux is simpler than windows01:21
Jack_SparrowBackeman: Not without special tools01:21
don_jrAnyone know how to get my sound to work?01:21
computerexYep. I am getting this one step at a time. Before, I couldnt even run the setup. Now, the whole install went perfect, except I got stuck on the prompt for password. Hopefully, this time it will get me all the way through. Thanks for the help. Might be back ;)01:21
AbstApart from install stuff, haven't got the hand of that yet01:21
VVraithis there any list for recommended hardware or such?  I am looking for a supported Sata Raid controller that I could use with ubuntu01:21
gre1is there a way to check for open ports in my firewall?01:21
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AbstLemme find that website01:21
UPCI am getting errors installing with Synaptic01:21
VVraithgre1, use a port scanner01:21
BackemanJack_Sparrow: I saw a post on ubuntuforums about testdisk, Im trying that now. Do you have another one in mind? Is it hard?01:21
Jack_Sparrowdon_jr: WHat onboard sound do you have?01:21
longwaveFred21: i thought all the mirrors were updated by now. you could try using the US or GB mirrors for now, then switch back after you fix that package01:21
gre1what a good port scanner?01:21
UPCE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly01:21
UPCA package failed to install. Trying to recover:01:21
Backemangre1: nmap01:22
don_jrJack_Sparrow how can I find that out?01:22
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AbstPort scanner01:22
Jack_SparrowBackeman: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/01:22
AbstI think01:22
UPCHow can I fix that?01:22
don_jrUPC sudo dpkg --configure -a01:22
Fred21longwave: i must use gb or us mirrors? are there updated?01:22
Jack_Sparrowdon_jr: Look in your manual, look up your motherboad model online..01:23
VVraithbackeman, there is another famous port scanner, can you think of it?01:23
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longwaveFred21: i thought every mirror was updated by now, but i know the GB and US mirrors are definitely updated, so try those for now01:23
VVraithi'm drawing a brain fart01:23
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ezioBoa noite!01:23
longwaveVVraith: nessus?01:23
jribVVraith: nmap?01:23
Fred21longwave: i use be.archive.ubuntu.com, there is an update for xserve01:23
ezioAlgum do Brasil?01:24
Fred21but when i reboot the computer, i can't be able to log me01:24
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.01:24
longwaveFred21: ok, have you done "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"?01:24
VVraithno, neither of those01:24
NullVectorquick simple question, whats a good program to rip audio cd's with? preferably in ogg with a respectable player?01:24
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Fred21longwave: before apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ofcourse ;-)01:24
BackemanVVraith: Uhh, nope. I have just used nmap the few times I have used a portscanner...01:24
VVraithman, now I am gonna be all preoccupied till I think of it01:24
longwavenmap, shields up and nessus are the only ones i can think of right now :)01:25
VVraithoh, nm, I'm thinking of Ethereal, but that is a packet sniffer, sorry01:25
mikeconceptshow do I join an xgl channel from xchat, have an xgl related question01:25
Jack_Sparrowshieldsup is what I use01:25
VVraithok, how can I find a supported sata raid controller that works with ubuntu?01:25
Fred21longwave: i made sudo apt-get update before apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ;-)01:25
Jack_Sparrowgibson research01:25
longwavemikeconcepts: /join #ubuntu-xgl01:25
squellyCan anyone help me get get my network conection working?01:25
AbstShields up01:25
mikeconceptssquelly: thx01:26
longwaveFred21: so it still does not work after the latest update?01:26
Jack_Sparrow!raid > VVraith01:26
Fred21longwave: it doesn't work after update01:26
NullVectorcan amaroK rip cd's and convert to ogg?01:26
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VVraithty jack01:27
longwaveFred21: do you know which version of the package you have now? if you have xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 installed, that is the newest working version...01:28
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don_jrJack_Sparrow from what I can find it's a Camino2 integrated sound card01:28
Fred21longwave: what's the command to know it?01:29
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longwaveFred21: "dpkg -s xserver-xorg-core"01:29
AbstIs there any listing of apt-get stuff sorted by category (e.g. games, code)?01:30
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Fred21longwave: can you see if a server is update? i use ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be01:30
neeophyteI can play mp3 file on desktop running ubuntu (opens Totem) but can't get that file to play from xChat... can someone help?01:31
sysdocBackeman, The two basic tools to help you would be dump2s and debug2fs.01:31
jribAbst: synaptic lists them by category, packages.ubuntu.com if you want web01:31
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AbstSynaptic is ALL apt-get?01:31
Fred21longwave: i see the last update are 29august on mirror of skynet01:31
vgeAbst: try synaptic, it lists paggages by category01:31
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UPCdon_jr::: I got some bus error.01:31
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longwaveFred21: yes, that has the latest deb01:32
longwaveFred21: ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb01:32
UPCdon_jr: in the terminal01:32
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Jack_Sparrowupc he is gone01:33
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brendonjtKia ora  one and all01:33
squellyDoes a typical fresh install have web access?01:33
Jack_Sparrowfyi that looks like INtel chipset... ac9701:33
beemonkWhat app would read .pls files ? (playlists from shoutcast)01:33
longwaveFred21: is it the same error that is on http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue ?01:33
Fred21longwave: yes01:33
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: yes unless wireless problems01:33
brendonjtsquelly:  umm yip  v01:33
longwavesquelly: if you have a wired network, yes. wireless may need some configuring01:34
Fred21longwave: is be.archive.ubuntu.com updated too?01:34
UPCanyone else have any ideas?01:34
longwaveFred21: yes01:34
squellyJack_Sparrow: I'm using a wired nic, the live CD worked fine, the install doesnt get out.01:34
Fred21longwave: the update doesn't work here :-(01:35
Fred21longwave: i've the update and reboot with ctrl+alt+del01:35
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: and no other changes... odd...01:35
Fred21longwave: the error msg will be display after the reboot01:35
brendonjtbeemonk: umm not sure but i think  and app that can read .pls (amarok, xmms, xine)01:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:36
squellyJack_SParrow: right, no other changes. just clicked install from the working live CD.01:36
beemonkah Rythmbox can, sorry01:36
Jack_SparrowUPC: what are you trying to install01:36
beemonkthanks brendonjt01:36
brendonjtbeemonk: no worries01:36
NullVectorany suggestions on what program can rip adudio cd's and convert to ogg at the same time?01:37
Jack_SparrowNullVector: check out grip01:37
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ubotugrip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number01:37
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Fred21longwave: why doesn't work after the update?01:38
jribNullVector: sound juicer as well01:38
longwavesquelly: is there only one network card in that computer? what does system > administration > networking say?01:38
wsgAnyone know are there any issues on a USB based system, no PS/2 Keyborad or Mouse support01:38
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: I'm still trying to think as to what the problem may be.01:38
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longwaveFred21: sorry,  i don't know. i thought all the problems were fixed with the newest update, but maybe not...01:38
silentj"I have a question, If I wanted to save my installed files and stuff as like a backup so I can put all my settings and apps onto a diffedrent computer or incase of a hard drive crash I could have a back up, is there a way to do that???01:38
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ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi01:39
AbstWhen I try to use Xmms it says my soundcard is in use/not configured. When I use Totem it plays fine, aswell as the ubuntu welcome music01:39
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Fred21longwave: if i remove the package (xserver-xorg-core) and reinstall it again, i will be mut to update it after?01:39
squellylongwave: right, only one network card. IN the connections it says 'eth0 The interface eth0 is active"01:39
jribAbst: go to xmms' preferences and tell it to use alsa01:39
longwaveFred21: you can try that, but i am not sure it will make any difference01:39
AbstIll try that01:39
brendonjtadst: i have found xmms not very stable i use amarok  for my media it is great01:40
gabriel_quienes son01:40
gabriel_soy venezolano01:40
Abstbrendonjt: I'll download and try that too, thanks01:40
Fred21longwave: i will try, i will be back to say informations.. thank you very much01:40
Fred21see you..01:40
longwavesquelly: what is on the other end of the ethernet cable? a cable/dsl home router or something else?01:40
ubuntuhi, sorry, complete newb here, could anyone tell me if it's possible to read a windows xp formatted hard drive using an ubuntu live cd01:40
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brendonjtadst: amarok uses the xine engine01:40
squellylongwave: verizon FIOS router.01:40
dr_willisubuntu yes.01:40
fallingdutchwohoooooo, got ubuntu running on en ecrypted hd :)01:40
wsgubuntu mount the drive01:41
NullVectorjack_Sparrow: Grip bug fix, how do I find my hd number? my File system is labeled on the SATA Drive01:41
ubuntudr willis how? i don't know where to go from file system01:41
silentjIs there a way to download the whole Ubuntu Wikki? So I can like look for whaver I want without being online??01:41
steph291hi Guys !01:41
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0" will renew the IP address for eth001:41
brendonjtfallingdutch:  what you mean on a encrypted hdd01:41
ubuntui'm trying to browse the hard drive like i would in windows explorer. how do i mount?01:41
Jack_SparrowNullVector: it should be cdrom  Zero01:41
dr_willisubuntu http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume01:42
steph291I have a question :01:42
Warboubuntu: It should appear as a desktop icon. If not try Places>Computer01:42
NullVectorthat n, i need X01:42
longwavesquelly: okay, i don't know much about fios. try what Jack_Sparrow said, then type "ifconfig" at a terminal and put the output in a pastebin for us to see01:42
fallingdutchbrendonjt, encrypted with sha256, using cryptsetup luks  dm-crypt01:42
silentjubuntu you can sure01:42
silentjyou just have to mount it01:42
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silentjbut if its ntfs you cant write to it which sucks ass01:42
Jamminpotatoif i compile firefox for my own use will it make it faster or does that only work for the kernel?01:42
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steph291does ubuntu : support dual-display ?01:43
WarboJamminpotato: Try swiftfox. They apparently compile it for speed01:43
dr_willisJamminpotato,  i doubt if its worth the effort.01:43
longwaveJamminpotato: you almost definitely won't notice any difference in speed01:43
fallingdutchsteph291, yes01:43
wheelswitchis there any one around who uses network manager?01:43
brendonjtfallingdutch:  so you encrypted your hdd  when you installed ubuntu  is it on a desktop or lappy01:43
Jack_SparrowNullVector: system admin disks01:43
ubuntuthanks silentj, i'll google for how to mount a drive in linux01:43
dr_willissteph291,  you can set up 2 displays. but theres no auto-set-up-tools for it. (that i know of)01:43
steph291FallingDutch : automatic ?01:43
squellylongwave , Jack_Sparrow: OK, I'll try now. dunno what a pastebin is, tho' sorry.01:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:43
Jamminpotatothanks Warbo01:43
fallingdutchbrendonjt, yes, installed the ubuntu onto the encrypted hd, its a lappy01:43
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StoneNoteJamminpotato, you can make firefox a bit faster by doing this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_load_Web_site_faster_in_Mozilla_Firefox01:43
silentjubuntu sudo mount /media/whatever01:43
fallingdutchsteph291, in my case by using the nvidia driver, which supports it01:43
Jack_Sparrowthanks longwave01:43
ladydoorJamminpotato: plus there's swiftfox01:43
Warboubuntu: http://tldp.org is useful. But Ubuntu help is on http://help.ubuntu.com/community01:43
wickersHow can I get OOo to remember my language settings?01:44
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dbeHow can I figure out if I use a Intel Centrino or Intel Centurion processor, cat /proc/cpuinfo just says: model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz01:44
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VVraithjack_sparrow:  the article seems to be for ppl doing raid0 and I can't figure out if they are doing fresh installs or are adding the raid0 after the initial install.  I want to do raid1 as a fresh install.01:44
JamminpotatoStoneNote, i did those tweaks back in like 0.801:44
dr_willisi thought Centrino was the  marketing name for the cpu+chipset01:44
JuhazVVraith, "centrino" or "centurion" isn't a processor01:44
longwavedr_willis: that's right01:44
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steph291is there a howto to set my dual-display ?01:44
wheelswitchany one who uses network manager, what is your start up command (you can find it in system>preferences>sessions>startup programs)01:44
tomcatt!ubotu wireless01:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:44
wsgI am getting ready to try UBUNTU on a Hyprethreaded system, a small step for me, moved from a P4 2.8 to a 3.0 ghz P4 with hyperthreading ....01:44
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wickerswsg, don't hold your breath.01:45
VVraithJuhaz, I didn't say that :)01:45
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dr_willissteph291,  i found a Gentoo Wiki Page - and used their examples.. Search for "Twinview"01:45
Jack_SparrowVVraith: I dont run raid, all I had was the link01:45
squellyJack_Sparrow: sudo ifup eth0 said: "No working leases in persistent database"01:45
Jamminpotatowhere could i find swift fox?01:45
tomcatt!ubotu wifi01:45
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:45
JuhazVVraith, oops, sorry.01:45
wsgwickers i know, I have done UBUNTU on 64 bit, now that was a Large step, and improvement01:45
Jamminpotato!ubotu swiftfox > Jamminpotato01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
steph291damn, there's a lot of action in here ! I like it01:45
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Tiger-zhi, has anyone got lm-sensors working with Gigabyte 965p-DS3 mobo?01:45
tryggWhat was the link to howto get xgl working on ubuntu?01:46
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steph291remembering me of the old days with rh :)))01:46
wsgsteph291 I am impressed by the UBUNTU channel, actualy has growen larger than Debian.01:46
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: what did ifconfig say?01:46
fallingdutchsteph291, what kind of card do you have?01:46
longwavesquelly: was there any other output other than that from ifup?01:47
brendonjtwsg:  yeah  this is a good channel01:47
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tryggI dont know if this is how, but lets try01:47
steph291Fallingdutch : voodoo5500 agp with matrox g40001:47
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Psykusanyone know how I would keep track of max uptime? I know I can use the 'uptime' command to get the current uptime01:47
wsgBeen in here on and off for 2 + years now ...01:47
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:47
cracka12hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?01:47
Jamminpotatoanyone know a reposotoriy or where i could find swift fox01:47
longwavePsykus: check out the uptimed package01:47
squellyJack_sparrow: I got sections, one called "eth0" and one called "lo" If you want the whole thing I can retype it on this machine... Is there a particular line you want to see?01:48
Jack_Sparrow!pastebin > squelly01:48
edjuStrangest thing - on the laptop, insert a commercial data cd, Scrabble game, Netgear insallation, etc, and it's mounted and is read w/o a hitch.  Insert a Linux livcd, knoppix, ubuntu, etc. and ubuntu sees it as a blank cd.  Mount OK on a desktop machine.  Anybody w/ a hint?01:48
steph291I'm not sure yet if I will hd install ...01:48
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager01:48
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fallingdutchsteph291, i have one card with two outputs .... dont know how to do it with two cards ... but it doesn't depend on ubuntu it depends on xorg ... search for dualdisplay and xorg - i found how to do it with my card with these words, too :-)01:48
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Fred21longwave: re01:48
phasegenanyone try installing on a machine with raid?  Particularly with promise fastrax?01:48
Fred21longwave: the problem is the sam01:48
Psykuslongwave, thanks, exactly what I was looking for :)01:48
steph291they call that twinview01:48
longwavesquelly: in the eth0 section, what does it say on the "inet addr" line?01:49
cracka12phasegen: you trying to raid your boot drive?01:49
Fred21longwave: the update can't change the problem,01:49
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fallingdutchphasegen, got a soft-raid here, but only for data, not as root device01:49
squellylongwave: inet addr: Mask: in the "lo" section. That line is not present in eth001:50
Fred21the update for the problem with x doesn't work01:50
cracka12phasegen: if your going to raid everything but your boot drive other wise grub wont take it and your sol. i did that yesterday01:50
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steph291and by the way, with the live cd ubuntu, it starts in 640x480 ... really annoying01:50
cracka12hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?01:50
squellylongwave: only an inet6 addr enttry.01:50
phasegencracka12: a buddy of mine is, can he run raid while booting to an ide drive?01:50
nosseI would like to get some files from my friends trough samba, can anyone recommend some program to do that?01:50
phasegencracka12: I don't do raid...01:51
steph291this is why i'm not sure if I will hd install01:51
Psykusuptime, 5 days, 23:52:16 :D01:51
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squellyJack_Sparrow: If the pastebin is something you want, it's trapped on the computer with the nonworking card. not sure how I would get it to you.01:51
jjjjjjjgot a problem.... i am running ubuntu on a mac.  can realplayer work on this platform?01:51
cracka12phasegen: yea that should work perfectly fine i run on just 10 gig then i raid0 a couple of 40's01:51
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cracka12phasegen: for data01:51
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: no.. that is ok... I am done for the day anyhow01:52
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fallingdutchphasegen, you can even use a raid as root-dev but have to play with the initial ramdisk  ....01:52
Fred21is there someone has the probleme with the update on 21th august about x1101:52
phasegencracka12: that's what he wants to do... cool.  Thanks.01:52
steph291doing it by hand ? (dual display) is not fun01:52
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squellyJack_SParrow: OK. THanks for the help so far.01:52
nahojargh. my sound just dissapeard after update??01:52
cracka12phasegen: yup just figured all that crap out yesterday too :) haha01:52
Fred21i made the update but xserver can't be started ;-(01:52
longwavesquelly: type "dmesg | grep eth0" to see if there are any kernel messages about your network card01:52
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cracka12hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?01:53
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Abstapt-get install cowsay01:53
phasegencracka12  fallingdutch   Thank You both.01:53
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Jack_Sparrowsteph291:  You know how to setup dual monitors manually but NOT how to change the default res ?01:53
longwavesquelly: ahhh, actually, do you know if your router needs PPPoE to work? googling for verizon fios suggests it does..01:53
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Psykusalso, can someone tell me how to remove the automatically detected device for my wireless card? it doesn't work right, and I think it's conflicting with ndiswrapper when I try to use it01:54
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nossejjjjjjj: what do you need realplayer for?01:54
fallingdutchhow do i again change my kblayout and my language?01:54
Jack_Sparrowlongwave: not to mention port forwarding..  :)01:54
Psykusthere's a link on the wiki that supposedly has how to do it, but the link is dead01:54
Fred21longwave: when i type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core it say "you've the latest update"01:54
ubuntu_hi, i'm wondering how i can drop files on a folder that's shared on a windows computer on this network... on KDE it was just smb://192.168.0.whatever01:54
steph291Captain Jack Sparrow : No I don't know how to set taht up manually01:54
steph291in mandriva : it works right away01:55
Jack_SparrowstephI just say you telling someone it was not fun, I assumed you had some sort of personal experience01:55
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longwaveFred21: i dont know why your X still isn't working, you have the latest package. do you know what video card or driver you are using?01:55
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Jamminpotatoswiftfox is faster01:55
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steph291yes I have :\01:55
squellylongwave: eth0 Xircom Carbus adapter.... eth0 link is up running at 100Mbit, half duplex ...eth0 noIPV6 routers present ... eth0 Link is up running at 100Mbit half duplex ...eth0 no IPV6 routers present ... eth0 MII transceiver #0 config 3100 status 7809 advertising 01el01:55
fallingdutchubuntu_, you can mount the share with mount -t smbfs //192.whaterver/share /mnt/wherever01:55
Fred21longwave: nvidia01:55
ubuntu_thanks, fallingdutch01:56
silentjDoes anyone know of a good chess game for Ubin2?01:56
fallingdutchubuntu_, np01:56
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silentjI got this Xboard but it sux01:56
Fred21longwave: i've a nvidia geforce4 mx 440 with nvidia driver01:56
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ladydoorsilentj: emacs-chess (if you already use emacs, lol)01:57
fallingdutchFred21, are there some [EE]  lines when you start X?01:57
owen_my rhythmbox is not playing any music... i installed the mp3 codecs, it detects them, but doesnt play them, it just displays the name real quick, than stops...01:57
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MrFeetiohi i wanted to know how to make it so while im playing music system sounds dont play01:58
Fred21fallingdutch: i've the error msg "x server ..."01:58
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Fred21the same msg in the website of ubuntu about update of xserver01:58
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steph291Dual-Display in Linux is pain ... when you have to tweak the x config... ah man01:58
fallingdutchFred21, go to a console (ctrl+alt+F2) and run "startx" and check for lines with [EE] 01:58
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Fred21ok i'm seeing, i will back01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
steph291check the logs when having prob. with X01:59
zerokarmaleftmy network connection is erratic after configuring it for a static ip01:59
Jamminpotatoanyone here use swiftfox01:59
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fallingdutchsteph291, it is running very smooth here ;)02:00
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:00
ubuntu_fallingdutch: "sudo mount -t smbfs // /mnt/wherever" is giving errors, it says wrong fs type, bad option, or bad superblock ...could this be related to the fact that i'm on a live CD?02:00
zerokarmaleftabout every 30 minutes, everything i'm doing network-related times out02:00
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MrFeetiozerokarmaleft:i had similar problems but i just rest the router and restarted the computer and things got better02:00
steph291Fallingdutch : send me your xorg config02:00
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cracka12hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?02:00
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Jamminpotatono swiftFox users?02:00
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Mieki'm having problems running most games, i get an error similar to "Could not initialize SDL Video subsystem: No I/O port permissions."02:01
sysdocJamminpotato, I'm using it02:01
david1234yeah yeah02:01
owen_what software can you use to convert mp3's to the vorbis format?02:01
david1234i ve been trying to get here for days02:01
fallingdutchubuntu_, you have to install smbfs02:01
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ubuntu_okay, i'll try that02:01
fallingdutchsteph291, which card are you using?02:01
steph291Miek : xorg config need a set of lines to "set" permission for hardware accelkeration02:01
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Fred21it doesn't work :-(02:01
longwavesquelly: sorry for the delay, i've been reading up about how fios works but can't find much that's helpful. try "sudo pppoeconf" and answer any questions about your internet connection, there is possibly a bug where the live cd settings do not get saved correctly later on.02:01
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david1234question : what do i need to dowload to be able to see my windows files?02:02
Fred21when i type startx, it say can't to connectt xserver02:02
russellbI cant drag and drop icons off the application menu to the desktop. If I right click on an icon in the app menu it just lunches the program. Any ideas?02:02
steph291fallingdutch : voodoo5500 agp and pci matrox g40002:02
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squellylongwave: OK, I;ll do that now.02:02
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fallingdutchsteph291, i have only one card so i dont think you can use much of my config02:03
Fred21longwave: it doesn't work... is it possible to reinstall xserver?02:03
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steph291I mean falllingdutch :)02:03
Fred21the update doesn't work correctly02:03
longwaveFred21: i'm not sure why it doesn't work, i don't think reinstalling X will help...02:03
steph291a man02:03
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david1234how can i see my windows files from ubuntu?02:03
longwaveFred21: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254 - there may be something in there you can try02:04
squellylongwave: "Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access concentrator of you provider did not respond..."02:04
brendonjtdavid1234:  mount the drive02:04
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse02:04
Fred21longwave: my xserver is broken02:04
russellbdavid1234: on the ame computer or as a mapped drive?02:04
russellbConnect to windows shares with Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently02:05
brianprogrammerI currently Have ubuntu installed and I have a wireless network adapter, however, somebody told me that the Gnome-Network-Manager is much better than the default one that comes installed on ubuntu. How do I set this up?02:05
brianprogrammerI ran sudo apt-get install gnome-network-manager02:05
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russellbbrianprogrammer: did it install it02:06
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brianprogrammerwhen i restarted02:06
Fred21longwave: i must reinstall ubuntu?02:06
brianprogrammerthe gnome-network-manager has an icon02:06
VVraithdo any of you know of a "pci" not "pci-x,pci64" sata hardware raid controller?02:06
brianprogrammerhowever it reports no network connection02:06
Fred21ubuntu makes a mistake and many people are in the problem :-(02:06
russellbbrianprogrammer: I have never used it before so I couldn't tell you past that02:06
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Jack_SparrowVVraith: Did you look in the supported hardware list02:07
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ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:07
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steph291the livecd of ubuntu : when X start: resolution is 640x480 :( pain in the a...02:07
david1234yeah is nfts02:07
fallingdutchFred21, have you seen [EE]  lines?02:07
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fallingdutchtoo late02:07
russellbI cant drag and drop icons off the application menu to the desktop. Is there a setting for this someplace?02:07
david1234before i downloaded some thing that let me see my windows drives but i dont remember02:07
Jack_Sparrowdavid1234: You could run the diskmounter script02:08
david1234wht is that?02:08
VVraithjack_sparrow: i asked if there was one earlier, but no one mentioned02:08
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport02:08
steph291networkneiboorhood >02:08
VVraithalrighty :)02:08
Jack_SparrowVVraith: I must have been napping  :)02:08
brendonjtrussellb: select the icon with left click,  and drag to the desktop02:08
Jamminpotatosysdoc, when you use swiftfox, does it still say firefox everywher in and on the browser?02:08
fallingdutchhow do i set my locales again? and my Kblayout?02:09
russellbbrendonjt: yeah that does not work02:09
sysdocJamminpotato, no it says swiftfox02:09
russellbstrange huh02:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kblayout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:09
VVraithJack_Sparrow:  damn, I've seen that page, it doesn't include raid controllers02:09
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net02:09
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ubotulm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB02:10
^Z3D^anyone here running counterstrike source?02:10
brendonjtrussellb: i just went to the applications->internet and draged amsn  to the desktop  hold the left mouse button and drag  it to the desktop02:10
Jamminpotatosysdoc, cause i installed it and whe n i launch swift fox from the terminal it still says firefox02:10
VVraithHardwareSupportComponentsSerialATAControllers  is there, but it is not a link yet02:10
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steph291btw : it's Captain Jack Sparrow :) with a big C02:10
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VVraithsuggests it is coming, but not there yet02:10
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sysdocJamminpotato, apps>internet>swiftfox02:10
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brendonjtCaptian Jack Sparrow: ya got the black perl back yet lol02:11
fishyHow do I enable FastCGI on my Ubuntu server?02:11
Jamminpotatosysdoc, its not in there02:11
longwavesquelly: i have found a couple of old threads where people talk about that access concentrator error, but no fix02:11
russellbbrendonjt: Yeah, done it a million times in other OS's... does not work in Ubuntu for me. Fresh install too02:11
longwavesquelly: have you tried powering off the pc and router, powering the router on and waiting for it to start, then powering the pc back on?02:11
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sysdocJamminpotato, install it with Automatix02:11
Jack_SparrowVVraith: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html02:11
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russellbbrendonjt: if I right click on an app all it does it launch the app02:11
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brendonjtrussellb: hmm that weird  cos it just worked for me,  and i am using dapper LTS, fresh install a day ago02:12
squellylongwave: I tried that earlier, no joy.02:12
VVraithty again jack, lookin02:12
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brendonjtrussellb: LEFT click  not right click02:12
Jamminpotatosysdoc, how do i use automatix, i jsut followed the ubuntu directions on getswiftfox.com02:12
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VVraithha ha ha, I've seen that one too02:13
Jack_Sparrowsysdoc: friends dont let friends try automatix02:13
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ben````holy shit, lotsa of people02:13
longwavesquelly: sorry, i am stumped then :(02:13
sysdocJack_Sparrow, lol, worked fine for me02:13
russellbbrendonjt: yes, just like in other OS's... not working02:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about workedforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:13
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.02:13
mineraleHi could someoen help me setup my printer with samba? I have the printed wofking fine on my computer and samba works too. My other computer is windows, I have looked up the shared printer added, it but when I try to print I get access denied messages, how do I enable one username to print?02:13
WarboThat's the one02:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about works - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:13
sysdocJamminpotato, http://www.getautomatix.com/02:13
brendonjtCaptian Jack Sparrow: true about automatix heard it was a bit buggy and can reck havoc02:14
squellylongwave: s'ok. I appreciate you trying!02:14
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russellbbrendonjt: It should be common sense and I am sure it is but something is wrong here with my Ubuntu02:14
sysdocJack_Sparrow, Automatix dork something up for you?02:14
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.02:14
Jamminpotatosysdoc, in synaptic it shows it being installed as well02:14
ben````soundgate irc's from root, what a weird02:14
soundgatewhy can't I send messages in other channels? e.g. #winehq02:14
Jack_Sparrowsysdoc:  We get people in here EVERY day with systems trashed by automatix and easyubuntu02:14
brendonjtrussellb: hmm  true  sorry for shouting and snapping,  umm not sure what  you have going on there  have you done all the updates02:14
owen_what software can you use to convert mp3's to FLAC format?02:14
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brendonjtowen_: why use flac  why not ogg02:15
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cafuegowhat would be the point of doing that?02:15
Jack_Sparrowstephans: good luck.02:15
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brendonjtsteph291:  don't do that why why why02:15
longwaveowen_: transcoding mp3s is never a good idea, and to flac would just be a waste of space02:15
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cafuegoowen_: When the mp3 was created, it was compressed and data was discraded. This data will not come back, ever. You'll just have a (low quality) flac eating disk space.02:16
owen_my rhythmbox is not playing mp3's for some reason, and I have them installed02:16
Jack_Sparrowsteph291 had no intention of using ubuntu02:16
russellbbrendonjt: Nope, have not updated. This is my first time with Ubuntu. I am used to Suse. Its also first time with Gnome. Im a KDE user02:16
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ladydoorowen_: though transcoding mp3s to ogg is a good idea :-)02:16
ladydoorowen_: i've never had a problem with i02:17
Arrick_jason you here?02:17
cafuegoladydoor: No, it's an even worse diea than converting them to flac.02:17
ladydoor( sudo aptitude install mp32ogg )02:17
neeophytecan someone tell me the path to the Totem sound player app ?02:17
Arrickcafuego, you know much about vmware in windows?02:17
Jack_Sparrowrussellb: You may be more comfortable in Kubuntu02:17
brendonjtrussellb: ok  umm do all your updates  as it might help02:17
ladydoorcafuego: uhhh...why? ogg is higher quality than mp302:17
Jack_Sparrowrussellb: with Kubuntu02:17
ladydoorcafuego: and i've never had a probelem with it02:17
cafuegoladydoor: Not if your source matrial is mp3.02:17
red|rainneeja, its /usr/bin/totem02:17
russellbI found if I right click on a desktop Icon and choose creat New -> launcher then I can make an Icon on my desktop02:17
sysdocJack_Sparrow, well I didn't try to install the nvidia driver, but it seems to do fine with everything else. And that is unusual for this laptop. Seems everything with this box needs the longest most convoluted methods to get things installed..02:17
longwaveladydoor: there is still a quality loss doing that, compared to taking the original cd straight to ogg. you may as well keep them as mp3 unless you don't want to install things from multiverse for some reason :)02:17
russellbI am wanting to learn gnome more02:17
cafuegoladydoor: Converting from lossy -> lossy = 2xlossy.02:17
Xenguyneeophyte: type: which totem02:18
russellbthanks for are your help!02:18
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cracka12hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?02:18
Jack_Sparrowsysdoc: np, it is just that we do try to discourage automatix and easyubuntu02:18
owen_alright so ogg vorbis and flac is only recommended if coming straight from the cd right?02:18
Arrickdoes anyone here know how to turn of a device driver in vmware on windows?02:18
neeophyteRed|rain tks02:18
cafuegoArrick: No, but a bit about windows in vmware ;-)02:18
anthonylongwave, I sorted the language problem! CLose all OOo windows -> new document -> alter language.  That's it.  If there is another doc needed in Proper English, simply copy paste & overwrite! seems to work so far anyways!  cheers02:18
red|rainneeja, no prob ^_^02:18
Jack_Sparrowsysdoc: We seem to end up with very unhappy peoiple02:18
Arrick(i realize its a bit out of the topic here)02:18
cafuegoArrick: Probably just go to the hardware manager and disble the device.02:18
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Arrickcafuego, its not in the device manager,02:19
owen_how do i get my rhythmbox player to play the mp3's that it has in the library, it was playing them before, i have the gstreamer codecs installed...02:19
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cafuegoArrick: Services?02:19
longwaveanthony: ah yeah, that's neater than modifying the language files - good idea :)02:19
owen_then when i restarted, its not playing them anymore02:19
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Arrick"THe installer failed to stop the Vstor2 Virtual Storage Driver"02:19
red|rainbeemonk, whats weird about xchat?02:19
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anthonyxchat's ace02:20
_w^x_where does the mythTV package create th "myth" directory?02:20
beemonkumm, well im trying to use it like its mIRC02:20
red|rainbeemonk, ahh icic02:20
Arrickcafuego, ^02:20
ladydoorlongwave: aha02:20
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cafuegoArrick: probably services02:20
Jack_Sparrowbeemonk:  try konversation...02:20
beemonki've just come from that lol02:20
brendonjtred|rain: xchat is good  but xchat-gnome is yuk02:20
Arrickok, just tried that, hopefully someone knows more on it02:21
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sysdocJamminpotato, if it is installed and you don't have a launcher for it in the menus, rt clk applications>edit menus, see if you can find it in there02:21
beemonkbrendonjt: reccomend = ?02:21
Amanwhere i can install C complier?02:21
mineralePlease could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?02:21
ladydoorAman: build-essential02:21
longwaveAman: install the "build-essential" package02:21
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brendonjtbeemonk: xchat  is good nice interface as well,  bitchx is good that is terminal  based02:21
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inlanderfwhat is a good gui ftp  apt02:21
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thybowhy is the dev repository of skype unavailable?02:22
Huckinlander gftp02:22
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longwaveinlanderf: just use places > connect to server in gnome?02:22
wwsebhello, have you try to setup ubuntu on macbook ?02:22
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inlanderfhow do i install it huck02:22
Hucksudo apt-get install gftp02:22
Huckyou might need repositories02:23
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inlanderfill try it02:23
foxjwilldoes anyone know how to force use of the Dapper versio nof libpoppler1 vs. the compiz version? evidently (according to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424) I need to install it to be able to install kubuntu-desktop.02:23
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judI've been having problems with my broadcom, I've now gotten to the point where I can see my wireless router in the wireless assistant program, but can't connect.  Anyone have any ideas?02:23
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fallingdutchfoxjwill, search for pinning guess the technique is in ubuntu still the same02:24
Jack_Sparrowfoxjwill: that will install the kde apps that are part of Kubuntu, you will not end up with Kubuntu02:24
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clustyi reinstalled windows and it overwrote grub02:24
TraeWhat if DMA is already 1 and you are still getting jerky playback on your DVD?  http://www.shorttext.com/93rfh02:24
fallingdutchclusty, that is normal ;)02:24
longwave!grub > clusty02:24
peteweezclusty: yeah windows is carnivorous that way02:24
clustyhow can i rewrite the MBR with grub?02:24
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thybohow do you remove amsn configurations?02:24
Jamminpotatosysdoc, like i launch swift fox and the title bar and about say firefox02:24
Jack_Sparrowjud: Port forwarding from the router comes to mind..02:24
clustyi know02:24
TraeI'm getting some odd error:  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument02:24
_w^x_who can I find out what a package will do if i install it? such as what directoriess will it create?02:24
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HeathenDanthat's to be expected clusty02:24
peteweezclusty: boot with live cd, run install-grub02:25
_w^x_where does the mythTV package create th "myth" directory?02:25
clusty!grub > clusty02:25
Jack_SparrowPeople, I need to start dinner, I will lurk for awhile02:25
HeathenDango to wiki.ubuntu.com02:25
beemonkWhats everyone using for aim/msn/* ?02:25
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pike_jud: if you do "sudo iwconfig ath0 essid networkname" and then "sudo dhclient ath0"    where ath0 would be your device name does it get an ip address?02:25
brendonjtbeemonk: amsn02:25
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Amanwhere i can install this: checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev ??02:25
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jmhodgesok, i've tried debugging myself, and i've checked the wiki02:25
thybomsn& aim gaim02:26
_w^x_xchat for irc or irssi02:26
longwave_w^x_: what do you expect to be stored in that directory?02:26
tlhenrygain rocks , except the webcam function is not there02:26
jmhodgesbut for the life of me, i can't figure out why my SBLive card is recognized, but refuses to play any audio02:26
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.02:26
jmhodgesi went through alsamixer and everything02:26
jmhodgesi'm totally confused02:26
Huckjmhodges: do you have more than one soundcard?02:26
NullVectoranyone know where I can find xgl/compiz themes, I had a site somewhere, but seems I can't find it now?02:26
jmhodgesHuck, apparently, its seeing three102:27
longwaveAman: which version of tcl do you need? there are a few versions in ubuntu02:27
thybohow do you clear cache?02:27
jmhodgesHuck, but sblive is showing to aplay as snd card 002:27
foxjwilljack_sparrow: than, how do i install kubuntu?02:27
_w^x_I'm asking about where the ubuntu provided mythTV package creates the myth directory...02:27
Huckjmhodges: can you disable onboard sound thorugh your mobo?02:27
Amani need tcl to use amsn 0.96R02:27
longwavethybo: what cache?02:27
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jmhodgesHuck, erm, thats a good question02:27
longwave_w^x_: yes, what exactly is that directory for?02:27
Huckjmhodges: hang on a sec, I just wenth thorugh something similar myself.02:27
foxjwill(sorry, i was afk)02:27
jmhodgesHuck, cool, thanks02:27
_w^x_longwave, the media that you record I thing02:27
longwave_w^x_: is it part of the mythtv back end, front end or database?02:28
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foxjwillJack_Sparrow: than, how do i install kubuntu?02:29
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fallingdutchnight all02:29
brendonjtfoxjwill: download the kubuntu .iso02:29
foxjwilleven though i already have dapper w/ gnome?02:29
longwavefoxjwill: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"02:30
foxjwilldoes anyone know how to force use of the Dapper versio nof libpoppler1 vs. the compiz version? evidently (according to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424) I need to install it to be able to install kubuntu-desktop.02:30
foxjwillthat's what i posted earlier02:30
brendonjtlongwave:  opps  will that  just download the kde desktop and required files?02:30
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longwavebrendonjt: yes, and install them so you can choose kde as a desktop (works the same for xubuntu-desktop, too)02:31
peteweezfoxjwill: you need to force the version02:31
peteweezfoxjwill: do you have synaptic?02:31
jjjjjjjnosse:  i need realplayer to watch big brother.02:31
foxjwillpeteweez: yes02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:31
longwavefoxjwill: i suggest you remove compiz for now, install kde, then reinstall compiz02:31
Huckjmhodges: go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=sound+driver+order  and look for this: Configuring default soundcards / stopping multiple soundcards from switching02:32
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foxjwilllongwave: ok02:32
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jmhodgesHuck, ahhhh.. hmmm02:32
longwavefoxjwill: maybe #ubuntu-xgl will have more help as they can deal better with xgl/compiz questions02:32
peteweezfoxjwill, select force version on one of the menus02:32
brendonjtaman: have you tried in synamptic?02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tkc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
Huckjmhodges: it makes sure that the right driver loads first, so you can specify which soundcard runs at boot... worked for me02:32
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jmhodgesHuck, cool, i'll make sure this is all good02:33
jmhodgesHuck, thanks102:33
Huckjmhodges: i hope that helps02:33
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Skuz`can anyone help me setup xgl and compiz on my 9800?02:33
longwaveAman: try "sudo apt-get install tcl-8.4-dev tk-8.4-dev imlib1-dev" to install the tcl/tk and imlib dev packages, they look like they are needed for amsn02:33
Skuz`x.org module for ati is installed02:33
Jamminpotatoi used the ATI driver Skuz`02:33
Skuz` I followed an online tut i found and it didnt work02:33
Jamminpotatothe standard open on on my 9800pro02:33
Skuz`i've got xgl and compiz installed02:33
Jamminpotatoubuntu or kubuntu?02:33
Skuz`but they wont run02:33
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ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:34
HLMis it possible to install Ubuntu without Firefox?02:34
foxjwillpeteweez: it worked!02:34
Skuz`HLM just remove firefox when you're done02:34
JamminpotatoHLM, jsut remove it in synaptic02:34
Skuz`but why would you want too02:34
brendonjtlongwave:  when  you use synamptic  or apt-get it installs those dependices for you, well that is what i have found02:34
peteweezfoxjwill: AWESOME!02:34
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longwavebrendonjt: but Aman is trying to compile amsn, so he needs those dev packages02:34
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digivorecan anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?02:34
JamminpotatoSkuz`, maybe hlm wants to install swiftfox isntead?02:34
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jjjjjjjmeh... typical linux chat room help.02:35
longwavebrendonjt: apt-get will install dependencies for binary packages, though02:35
angel12hey guys, i cant connect to my wifi using an atmel card on  afresh install of ubuntu. am i missing something?02:35
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dr_willisI often wonder how trustworty things like swiftfox are.02:35
brendonjtlongwave:  ok that must be where i get confussed02:35
digivoreswiftfox!  thats it!02:35
Jamminpotatodr_willis, liek personal information or crashing stem trustworthy?02:35
Jamminpotatodigivore, ????????02:35
dr_willisJamminpotato,  like slamming the web servers and  causing problems trustworty02:35
digivorethats the program i was trying to think of02:36
Jamminpotatohow does it slam webserers? dr_willis02:36
longwavedoes swiftfox actually make any difference? firefox is fast enough for me anyway!02:36
dr_willislongwave,  thats also a good question02:36
digivoreno  never mind  thats not it.02:36
Jamminpotatolongwave, firefox was a little slower on linux then i was used to in windows, so i'm using swiftfox now02:36
dr_willisJamminpotato,  ive heard of some other firefox tweeks that  aparently open more connections to web servers and do other 'things' that are not exactly according to the  specs. :)02:37
Skuz`anyone mind helping me w/ a line for fstab for an NTFS drive?02:37
dr_willisI dont even know how you Test/prove the speeds of the things.02:37
Skuz`i need the options part02:37
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PsykusJamminpotato, are you using the firefox that comes with ubuntu? the one with just the globe icon?02:37
dr_willishttp://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume     - for all your NTFS needs02:37
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pike_Skuz`: i normally just put defaults,umask=000 in the options line i think02:37
dr_willishas details on all the options and what ones you may want to use.02:37
digivorerepository installer programs?   any options?02:37
Psykusthat one is always slow for me, I always install the version from mozilla.org02:38
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Skuz`i dont want to write to the drive02:38
pike_Skuz`: thats just read access02:38
longwaveSkuz`: i use "ro,umask=0222"02:38
cafuegoSkuz`: You wont, because the driver can't. Just mount it 'ro'.02:38
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mineralePlease could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?02:38
qatsiok, now my xgl is working great...im amazed of how it works :D02:38
jonkrihi! i'm sorry that i can't be more specific but this is all i got... when my friend tries to install ubuntu the ubuntu installation logo comes up and then it crashes... i know this must be hard for your to guess but do you have any idea why this might happen?02:38
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AbstThis may seem like a silly request, but does anyone have a suggestion for a good game on apt-get?02:38
dr_willisAbst,  frozen-bubble, slune,02:39
AbstIll try them now02:39
dr_willisAbst,  several tron clones. :P02:39
AbstThe list is lonng02:39
Huckjonkri: try burning a new disk02:39
longwaveAbst: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games ?02:39
beemonkthe fonts for aMSN are yucky02:39
dr_willisAbst,  depends on the kind of games ya like.02:39
beemonkwhere can i get some smooth looking fonts? :P02:39
AbstI'm looking at packages.02:39
_wallyou tell me02:39
JamminpotatoPsykus, yea im using the default ubuntu one02:39
jonkriHuck, you don't think it might be hardware related?02:39
jonkriHuck, that is, computer component hardware related :P02:40
Huckjonkri: it's hard to say, but that's where I'd start. I've had problems with disks before02:40
thyboanyone got a link to install a webcam?02:40
jonkriHuck, i see. thank you02:40
thyboeasycam2 doesn't work with me02:40
JamminpotatoPsykus, is it not the best version or somethin02:40
PsykusJamminpotato, i'd recommend following the tutorial on the ubuntu wiki to install the "new firefox" (back when the one with ubuntu was an old version)02:40
longwavejonkri: what do you mean the logo comes up? do you get the grub menu at the start? what is the last thing it says before it crashes? what hardware (desktop/laptop, ram size) are you installing on?02:41
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PsykusJamminpotato, the one you can get from mozilla.org is a lot faster, at least in my experience02:41
Psykusplus you get the nifty firefox logo/icon :PO02:41
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jonkrilongwave, hehe, i realize now i'm even more pathetic than i thought ... :) i don't know02:42
Skuz`anyone have a step by step instruction page for using xgl/compiz on ati hardware?02:42
JamminpotatoPsykus, so what is different between the ubuntu one and the mozilla one?02:42
inlanderfwhy I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site02:42
Skuz`the link that was given to me for xgl was nothing more than a synopsis02:42
digivoreis there a specific name for programs like 'adept' and 'synaptic'?02:42
longwavejonkri: it's pretty hard to help without knowing basic details like that, there are many possible causes and fixes ;)02:42
sethkJamminpotato, usually the mozilla one is a bit newer02:42
PsykusJamminpotato, i'm not sure exactly, apart from the icon, but it's faster02:42
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inlanderfwhy I can't i open the ftp folder when I try to go to my ftp site02:43
longwaveSkuz`: did you follow the links in that synopsis? they tell you how to install the individual parts - xgl or aiglx, then compiz02:43
jonkrilongwave, obviously :)02:43
SewarIs there any Glade 3 packages for 6.06?02:44
MasqyHi all, I have an ubuntu installation question02:44
Arrickread, browse02:44
Skuz`longwave,  i didnt get your link apparently02:44
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:44
Skuz`the one i was given just told me what it was02:44
Skuz`yeah that doesnt help me buddy02:44
Skuz`the only installation link on there is for nvidia02:44
Skuz`which does me no good02:44
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Skuz`i've got both installed02:44
Skuz`the software its self that is02:44
Arrickinlanderf, permissions, and the browse setting02:44
longwave#ubuntu-xgl can help better with xgl questions than we can..02:44
inlanderfexplain please02:45
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wickersHow can I get OOo to remember my language settings?02:45
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wickerslike the language to use when spell checking.02:45
MasqyI would like to install a new version of an application which exists in ubuntu, but to retain the original one, that is, I actually want 2 versions of the same application installed. What is the simplest way to achieve that?02:45
longwavewickers: this is a bug in openoffice (someone asked about this just an hour ago!)02:45
longwavewickers: the easy workaround is to open a new document, set the language, save that document, then copy it every time you want to start a new document after that02:46
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wickersWell it is set to english canadian by default because that's what I selected when I installed ubuntu... so clearly it's getting it's settings from somewhere...02:46
brendonjthello buzzygirl02:46
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D-Man`I get GStreamer encountered a general resource error when trying to play mp3 file on desktop02:46
longwavewickers: yes, this is similar to what we found earlier, but neither of us could find any real fix02:46
wickersWhere does ubuntu store installation settings for reference?02:46
D-Man`been reading various google and other docs till I can't see straight02:46
longwavewickers: there are several configuration files, it depends on the application that is being configured, but /var/log/installer is a good start02:47
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D-Man`yes:  I've tried adding the various recommended gstreamer plug-ins  any way to get things back to DEFAULT status?02:48
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MasqyHi all, is there a way to install another version of the same program in ubuntu? (while not running over the older one)02:48
buzzygirlHi brendonjt02:48
sagarphow can i get ndiswrapper to load at startup?02:48
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jikutydo you guys think it's worth it to install Ubuntu to an old AMD 450MHz PC?02:48
Here_comes_me_64Here I am02:48
jikutyor will it run like shit?02:48
sethkjikuty, it will be tolerable02:49
inlanderfwhy I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site02:49
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sethkjikuty, probably a good idea to choose a low overhead desktop, possibly fluxbox02:49
jikutyi see02:49
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pianoboy3333anyone wanna see one of the funniest error messages? http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/Banshee_Error.jpg02:49
Bisonhow can i run a memtest from the livecd?02:49
jikutyill give it a try .. the pc is just collecting dust right now anyways :D02:49
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pianoboy3333http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/Banshee_Error.png everyone02:49
Jamminpotato450mhz should be good with xfce too, i got gnome on myne but it wasnt too slow, not too fast either, but yea xubuntu ftw jikuty02:50
longwavewickers: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/35936 is the openoffice bug in launchpad but there is not much there :(02:50
Skuz`if i'm getting 260 - 320fps in glxgears on a 9800pro, are the proper drivers installed and working?02:50
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longwaveMasqy: probably not easily, what program are you talking about and why do you want two versions at once?02:50
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buzzygirljikuty: have you looked into damn small linux?02:50
buzzygirlXubuntu might work on that old puter too02:51
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inlanderfwhy I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site02:51
jikutyi just got the idea to install linux on it now :P02:51
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longwaveinlanderf: does it work on an ftp program on another computer or on windows?02:51
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buzzygirlLinux can make the most of an old computer02:51
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Masqylongwave: The newest version of VLC, decodes WMV3 format, but it is still buggy regarding subtitles.  I want to watch movies with subtitles, and to be able to watch live TV via 0.8.5 (0.8.4 is the current version)02:51
jikutythat's what I figured :D02:51
inlanderfin windows02:51
buzzygirlDamn Small might work quite well for this!02:52
archaiosuse mplayer02:52
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buzzygirlCheck into it: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/02:52
jikutyalright, ill check it out02:52
hou5tonI did the first part of the following recommendation, but don't know how to do the second ... install a program called network-manager-gnome, then disable the built-in networking utility that comes with Ubuntu.02:52
buzzygirl50 megabytes of penguin power! LOL02:52
inlanderfI can get to the site and there is a folder on my desktop, but it wont open02:52
jikuty50 mb!!02:52
Masqylongwave: specifically, when you pause the movie, the subtitles which were displatyed at the same time disappear after a few seconds02:52
Red-SoxThe installer freezes everytime after 'Starting partitioner' on ONE of my boxes, works on the others02:52
longwaveMasqy: ah i see. unfortunately i don't know of any easy way around that without compiling one version from source and installing it in a different directory...02:52
hou5tonHow do I disable the built-in networking utility that came with Ubuntu?02:53
buzzygirljikuty, have you had other Linux experience?02:53
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Alejandr0Hola a todos...02:53
inlanderfhola elex02:53
jikutywow -- that is amazing02:53
jikutyat the moment, I'm dualbooted with debian02:53
jikutybut, I installed it mainly just to fool around.. I don't use it seriously.02:54
Masqylongwave: is there a way to install it "localy", that is , not to install, just keep the files in my home dir at, say /home/masqy/vlc ?02:54
buzzygirlOld computers are FUN02:54
brendonjtjikuty: he could try using the alturnitive install cd  instead of the live version02:54
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:54
buzzygirlyou can mess around with them and not worry too much about breaking them02:54
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jikutyyeah, that's what I'm intending02:54
buzzygirlI'm using a throwaway computer from work...02:54
jmhodgesok, that didnt do it02:54
jikutyim gonna first install Ubuntu, and check what the performance is like02:54
jmhodgesi've even tossed /dev/random at my only /dev/dsp02:54
mineralePlease could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?02:54
jmhodgesnothing comes out :-/02:54
jikutyotherwise, I'm going to go into DSL, or Xubuntu02:54
buzzygirl... they just gave it to me. It's got a 700 MHz Celeron processor with 256 mb of memory02:54
jmhodgesand it works in my windows install02:55
jikutyyou can do a lot with 700MHz02:55
inlanderf I can get to the ftp site and there is a folder on my desktop, but it wont open02:55
sethkbuzzygirl, if you are in the u.s. you'll have to report it as income02:55
peteweezminerale: I don't know a lot about that, but there are a lot of good guides...look it up on google.02:55
sethkbuzzygirl, at least theoretically  :)02:55
buzzygirlUbuntu requires 256 MB of memory to install via the Live CD... I could not get it to work when this computer had only 128 MB.02:55
buzzygirlsethk: heheh! I wish I had 700 million of something02:55
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longwaveMasqy: the problem is there are so many files in a vlc install that i don't think it would work as simply as that, i'm sure it expects certain files to be in fixed directories that you won't be able to change without recompiling02:56
peteweezminerale, also check #tapthru and #debian02:56
longwaveMasqy: how are you installing the newer version anyway? i'm assuming it isn't in the repository yet02:56
Masqylongwave: there is an ubuntu package at the VLC main site.02:56
buzzygirlXubuntu works better on systems with smaller hardware capabilities02:56
jikutyalright- I think ill give that a try02:56
jikuty128mb ram , 1.4 gb .. not bad02:56
buzzygirlCool, jikuty, I wish you luck!02:57
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jikutythanks :)02:57
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jikutyim gonna download it now02:57
MasqyIongwave: I've installed it, and then uninstalled it again, ( I prefer my subtitles than some TV)02:57
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Here_comes_me_64Hi everyone02:57
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buzzygirljikuty: those specs are probably fine for Xubuntu02:57
buzzygirlgo fer it heheh!02:57
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joltAnyone ever have issues with printing PDF's.. first page comes out fine, rest just confuse the heck out of the printer02:57
Masqylongwave: yes, it is still considered "unstable" but the files I installed are from May 2006.02:57
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Here_comes_me_64I have a question02:58
jmhodgesHuck, no go :-/02:58
jikutybuzzygirl: great :D02:58
Masqylongwave: (the 0.8.5)02:58
jikutyin the meantime, I'm going to set up this dusty pc02:58
soundgatewhat is ncurses for?02:58
jikutyno need to format in advance, correct?02:58
jikutythe software should just handle that for me?02:58
longwaveMasqy: i can't see an easy way round this, though there may be some advanced dpkg/apt-get magic you can do that will help here02:58
Here_comes_me_64Is there anyway to get virtual Video Memory?02:58
dr_willisncurses is for console-time-interface-design and neat tricks. :P02:58
joltAlso. Has anyone sucessfully run the live installer on the current Edgy build without it crashing?02:58
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dr_willisconsole type interface/tricks. :P  Like 'mc' uses.02:58
buzzygirlno, if you want to install Ubuntu (Xubuntu) as the sole OS, it'll ask you in advance02:59
soundgateis ncurses-5.5 the latest version?02:59
Masqyif I compile, which file will it run when I simply type 'vlc a.avi' ?02:59
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longwaveMasqy: by default it would run the version you installed from a package; when compiling you would have to set a flag to install the new version in another directory. then you would run it with "/path/to/new/vlc a.avi"02:59
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gotamaHi There! Has anyone succeeded in installing the scanner Epson Perfection 1270?03:00
mindjujuso what do i do if I try to install courier-authmysql and I see that i've spelled it right in packages.ubuntu.com but when i type sudo apt-get install courier-authmysql  it says it can't find the package?03:00
Jamminpotatojikuty, you might want to try xubuntu even if ubuntu works fine...i use XFCE because i like it more then GNOME thus i use xubuntu not ubuntu, even though  i could run eitehr03:00
Masqyhow do I set the install dir for a compiled one?03:00
silverwizardHey, question Re SIP softphone clients especially SJphone, anyone know of an easy install for SJphone (alien seems to have failed me) or a better SIP client?03:00
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UPCJack_Sparrow: Sorry about not responding, was out meeting apartment neighbors03:00
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UPCanything I try to install messes up03:00
longwaveMasqy: instead of just ./configure, i think you need "./configure --prefix=/path/to/install" - but vlc is quite complex, you may have to read the documentation03:01
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jmhodgesim going crazy trying to figure out why my sound doesnt work in ubuntu03:01
HeathenDanme too, lol03:01
joltHeh i should go get the RX320 command line app from Debian Repositories if i can figure out why PDF's tend to spaz the printer03:01
Masqylongwave: well, it might be a good practice for me, I've already compiled amule before drapper03:02
jmhodgesfor some reason, its saying i have a CIrrus Logic card03:02
jmhodgesbut i dont103:02
jmhodgesi even disabled my AC97 card on my mobo03:02
soundgatewhat is DESTDIR?03:02
jmhodgessoundgate, destination directory03:02
Masqylongwave: which path is accepted as 'default' for your own compilations?03:02
jmhodgessoundgate, where you want stuff to go03:02
joltIt might be confusing the AC97 on your motherboard even if its disabled jm03:02
Masqyand besides, I think I'll have to compile and install both wxvlc, vlc-plugin-alsa and vlc at the same time, or so.03:02
jmhodgesjolt, well, before i disabled it, it had the mobo card as another snd card103:03
jmhodgesso there were three on the list!03:03
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longwaveMasqy: generally things you compile yourself go in /usr/local, but this may be in your path and may get confused with the other version of vlc (which will have a prefix of /usr)03:03
jmhodgesjolt, cha03:03
Masqygeneral question: how do I check if a specifice package is installed in my system ?03:03
longwaveMasqy: dpkg -l packagename03:03
mindjujuwhat do i do if I try to install courier-authmysql and I see that i've spelled it right in packages.ubuntu.com but when i type sudo apt-get install courier-authmysql  it says it can't find the package?03:04
longwave!info courier-authmysql03:04
ubotucourier-authmysql: Courier Mail Server - MySQL authentication. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.47-13ubuntu5.1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 188 kB03:04
longwavemindjuju: do you have the universe repository enabled?03:04
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soundgateI get this message "make: ***No rule specified and no makefile found" when I typed this "make DESTDIR=/usr/local". any idea?03:05
mindjujui don't, but just pulled up an FAQ on enabling other repository03:05
silverwizardanyone know of a good SIP phone available as a Debian Package?03:05
dubiagoanyone know what the default password for root is? i realized when i installed from the Live CD that it never asked me to set a root password03:05
longwavesoundgate: presumably there is no Makefile in the current directory03:05
joltPre Ubuntu, i had problems myself with Knoppix keeping thinking my AV-710 was a Ice1616 and not a 162403:05
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longwavedubiago: there is no password for root, you should use sudo instead03:05
W_McLsilverwizard: what's about ekiga? it's installed by default03:05
joltActually now i look at it OSS tried to instal the 1616 driver03:05
silverwizardIt seems to only hit one proxy03:06
Skuz`anyone know of a repository that has beep media player on it?03:06
Skuz`or if not, xmms?03:06
UPCanyone have ideas on how to fix installation problems?03:06
silverwizardI want to use an account that already exists, is there a way for it to go through a prexisting one?03:06
soundgatebut there's a file named Makefile.in in it03:06
jrib!info beep-media-player03:06
ubotubeep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 3592 kB03:06
silverwizardSkuz, universe has it03:06
Masqyand how can I check if a certain library is installed i.e. libdvbpsi ?03:06
jribSkuz`: universe has bmp03:06
jrib!universe > Skuz`03:06
Skuz`oh i was searching for pkg bmp03:06
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silverwizardApplications>Add/Remove should have both under Sound and Video03:07
Skuz`not beep-media-player03:07
jolthave you tried adduser from the command line silverwizard?03:07
longwaveMasqy: the same way, libraries are installed as packages03:07
TennesseeIs anyone here using Edgy?03:07
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jribSkuz`: yeah, that is why.  xmms is in main by the way03:07
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule03:07
joltit will *see* the previous user directory03:07
longwaveMasqy: you can also use "whereis libdvbpsi" for example03:07
silverwizardNo, I will check it out (new to SIP et all)03:07
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Skuz`i couldnt find it lol03:07
Skuz`or apt couldnt03:07
TennesseeI'm seriously considering upgrading, but would prefer not to break my desktop. But I would like some of the new packages.03:07
TennesseeI'm on dapper now.03:07
jribTennessee: #ubuntu+1 can help you better probably03:08
soundgatelongwave: but there's a Makefile.in in my current directory03:08
longwaveTennessee: there is always the possibility an edgy install will break after any upgrade03:08
Jack_SparrowTennessee:  one word... backup...03:08
joltSilver. Nix what i said...03:08
longwavesoundgate: no, Makefiles are just called Makefile. have you run ./configure yet? that usually creates a Makefile for you03:08
sethksoundgate, you need to do ./configure first, that will create your makefile03:08
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joltthought you were trying to create an account on the system for a user that already existed03:08
Skuz`is bmp-mp3 availible?03:08
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:09
pianoboy3333What does the -j2 tag on make do? Is it good for a hyperthreaded computer/03:09
DarkTowerIs dapper fully stable for use or are people having problems?03:09
hawkaloogieDarkTower, no problems as of yet for me03:09
Masqy"Please note that the installation (make install command) is not mandatory. You can execute VLC from where you compiled it.", well, it seems it is not so dangerous to at least try to compile it03:09
sethkpianoboy3333, depends whether there is any discoverable parallelism03:09
brendonjtdarktower:  it is fully stable haven't had any problems here03:09
sethkpianoboy3333, can't hurt03:09
TennesseeDarkTower: It's pretty good. Just the usual things that crop up with every stable release on the planet from time to time.03:10
Skuz`one last noob question guys, how do i kill x? do i just go into init 3 ?03:10
sethkpianoboy3333, but use a higher number than 203:10
pianoboy3333sethk: in gnome-system-monitor it shows 2 cpus03:10
Skuz`or is there an easier way03:10
Jack_SparrowDarkTower: dapper is stable03:10
soundgateso after ./configure I could now type "make DESTDIR=/usr/local"?03:10
Skuz`i dont want to loose whats open basically03:10
cafuegopianoboy3333: I normally use number of cpus times 203:10
sethkSkuz`, ubuntu's levels are different.  X is on for levels 2 and above03:10
Jack_SparrowDarkTower: Most injuries are self inflicted.. :)03:10
cafuegopianoboy3333: So -j 4 on a box with two CPUs.03:10
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jmhodgessomebody shoot me03:10
Skuz`sethk,  oh okay03:10
sethkpianoboy3333, that doesn't imply that you shouldn't run more than two processes03:10
DarkTowerThanks all, i think i will upgrade then.03:10
pianoboy3333cafuego: well, my box is hyperthreaded though03:10
Skuz`sethk, you know a way i can kill x without rebooting?03:10
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cafuegopianoboy3333: Try and see.03:10
sethkSkuz`, sure, init 103:10
pianoboy3333won't that like, make my box go splody?03:10
Skuz`that will set single user mode yes?03:10
sethkSkuz`, or, you can edit /etc/inittab03:11
Skuz`which means everything i have open closes03:11
cafuegopianoboy3333: Nope03:11
sethkSkuz`, yes, init 1 is single user mode.03:11
Skuz`i should probobly reboot so i dont break everything03:11
ubuntucould someone please help me mount my win xp drive. i'm using ubuntu live cd03:11
sethkSkuz`, to avoid that, you need to edit /etc/inittab and then perform a telinit command03:11
cafuegoRebooting is for windows users.03:11
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mindjujulongwave, that was the prob.  thx for the help03:11
sethkskuz`which isn't hard to do, and isn't hard to revert, but if you don't mind rebooting, and it's easier for you ...03:11
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks03:11
jmhodgesdoes anyone know why /dev/dsp would show up, but not even cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp would make noise?03:11
cafuegosethk: he's gone03:11
brendonjtcafuego: i agree with you there  every 5 min isn't it lol03:12
sethkcafuego, I give my best advise to people who are gone  :)03:12
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soundgatedoes anyone here uses wine?03:12
cafuegosethk: These kids today get tooe xcited and never let you finish your advice, so they mess up.03:12
sethkcafuego, yes, I've noticed  :)03:12
brianprogrammerI have a wireless card that works out of the box with ubuntu and I installed Gnome-Network-Manager (I was told it was better than the network manager that comes with ubuntu) but the network manager doesn't seem to recognize my device is even there (i am still connected through the other network manager).03:12
jmhodgeshell, shouldnt it be /dev/dsp0 etc?03:12
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sethkdepends on the udev configuration03:13
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jmhodgessethk, hmm.. i have one thats probably from the dapper beta period03:13
sethkjmhodges, I would expect /dev/dsp0 to be a link to /dev/dsp, anyway03:13
jmhodgeswell, fsck03:13
Masqyon some sites I see two ubuntu packages, which differ on the last character, i.e.  vlc_0.8.5.final.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb and  vlc_0.8.5.final.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb. What are supposed to be the differences ?03:13
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cafuegoMasqy: The ubuntu2 has been repackaged to address an issue.03:14
jmhodgesi know its just some stupid config some where03:14
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Masqyok, thanks for the help...03:15
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Spencerhey guys where can i download a file in apt-get from a windows box?03:16
sethkSpencer, check the URL's for the repositories03:16
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Spencersethk, where would it be then?03:16
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sethkSpencer, the repositories?03:16
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plutoWho can help me with setting my refresh rate?03:16
amonkeymy system did one of those every 30 mounts hd scans and it errored out. i ran fsck -pv /dev/sda and it gave me errors about the magic number in the super-block. what do i do?03:16
eZHi all !! :-D03:16
sethkSpencer, start at us.archive.ubuntu.com, if you are in the us03:17
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hawkaloogiesomeone help amonkey, i'm having the same problem03:17
longwaveamonkey: you should not run fsck on /dev/sda, it should be /dev/sda1 or whatever partition number the filesystem is on03:17
hawkaloogiei had to disable the hard drive for now03:17
DarkTowerCan I upgrade to dapper using the Software Update manager and just click upgrade? or is that a bad way to do it?03:17
amonkeylongwave, that makes sense03:17
hawkaloogielongwave, the partitions aren't showing up03:17
sethkamonkey, what file system?03:17
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eZi gotta stupid problem :-D but...i have no idea how to fix it :-( ..why all my icon under menus are gone ?? ..under Application or System...there's only text...as it looks Ubuntu can't find them :-(03:17
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amonkeysethk, ext3,but imay have been providing the wrong device, hang on03:18
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sethkamonkey, ok03:18
brendonjtpluto: system->pref->screen res03:18
amonkeysethk, looks to be working with correct device, my fault03:18
amonkeylongwave, that was it, thanks03:18
sethkamonkey, ok03:18
soundgateim trying to install ncurses. I got an error that the dir /ncurses5.5/objects/cursesf.o does not exist. how the heck can I resolve that?03:19
sethkhawkaloogie, is yours' the wrong device also?  :)03:19
amonkeylongwave, i did /dev/sda1 but it's just hanging there.'03:19
amonkeylongwave, i said verbose, shouldn't i be getting some feedback?03:19
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks03:19
sethksoundgate, you are installing it with apt-get?03:19
plutobrendonjt: I did this, but the refresh rate only goes to 75 and I want to set it at 85 (like I had under windows)03:19
hawkaloogiesethk, no, there are no partitions showing up on /dev/hdd03:19
eZcan anyone help me please.. :( ?03:19
jmhodgesdoes Dapper use OSS or ALSA by deaflut? its ALSA, right?03:19
TennesseeIs there a live CD for edgy at the moment?03:19
sethkhawkaloogie, but /dev/hdd exists?03:19
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:19
hawkaloogiesethk, yes03:19
soundgatesethk no I did wget.03:20
joltTenn. i got the daily build for Edgy and the Live CD installer bombs03:20
brendonjtpluto: i found that out as well03:20
sethksoundgate, you could create the directory, but I doubt that's your only issue03:20
joltRight near the end with a python error03:20
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cabulosowich one is better, easyubuntu or automatix ?03:20
hawkaloogiesethk, gparted showing all unallocated, the partition table probably got whacked meaning i probably lost all data...03:20
sethkhawkaloogie, fdisk -l /dev/hdd shows what?03:20
longwaveamonkey: fsck shouldn't hang, no. run "dmesg" in another terminal, is there any output about sda at the bottom?03:21
sethkhawkaloogie, well, remember, losing the partition table doesn't actually erase anything03:21
sethkhawkaloogie, if can be reconstructed, and if nothing else happened, all the data is still there.03:21
hawkaloogiesethk, cannot open /dev/hdd03:21
Tennesseejolt: Bummer. Just for my info, where did you get it from? I can't find anything downloadable and don't feel like risking my install at the moment...03:21
sethkhawkaloogie, try it with sudo   sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd03:21
joltTenn: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/03:21
Jack_Sparrowcabuloso: Neither are good03:21
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hawkaloogiesethk, w/ sudo: doesn't contain a valid partition table03:21
Tennesseejolt: Thanks! I'll try it just in case. If it flies, I want the new packages.03:22
amonkeylongwave, it apparently finished, no messages like i was expecting. wanted me to run it without -p, it's fixing inodes with corrupted orphans or something03:22
longwaveTennessee, jolt: for the record i installed dapper in a vmware machine the other day then dist-upgraded to edgy and it seems to be working okay03:22
hawkaloogiesethk, if i knew exactly what partitions were on the disk, can i make the partition table again?03:22
sethkhawkaloogie, yes03:22
joltI shoulda done it in a VM03:22
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hawkaloogiesethk, parted would work for this?03:22
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sethkhawkaloogie, might, but fdisk is a lot easier03:22
Tennesseelongwave: With nvidia?03:22
hawkaloogiesethk, okay, thanks03:22
sethkhawkaloogie, do you know the partition layout?03:22
longwaveTennessee: no i haven't played with video card drivers yet03:23
hawkaloogiesethk, it was all one big ext3 partition03:23
sethkhawkaloogie, oh, that's trivial03:23
Skuz`I dont know what hdx my ntfs drive is03:23
sethkhawkaloogie, just do   sudo fdisk /dev/hdd03:23
eZplease..if someone can help me...query me..03:23
longwaveTennessee: this was just for testing in vmware to see if it would work :)03:23
Skuz`is there anyway to find out?03:23
sethkhawkaloogie, then, at the menu, create a partition, and take the default starting and stopping sectors03:23
cabulosoJack_Sparrow: what do you suggest ?03:23
sethkhawkaloogie, select primary, partition 103:23
corndog_I'm having full system freezes when burning CD's through k3d and gnomebaker. I am able to burn via nautilus... I've followed this guide but I'm still having issues http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217472&highlight=cd+burner+driver03:24
Jack_Sparrowcabuloso: what are you trying to do?03:24
sethkhawkaloogie, if it asks for the type, linux which is I believe hex 8203:24
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Tennesseelongwave: no worries. I'd just go for it, but if I root my system, I won't be too popular here at work while I'm taking downtime to fix it.03:24
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hawkaloogiesethk, 82 is swap, 83 is linux03:24
cabulosoJack_Sparrow: did a fresh install and need multimedia support and stuff...03:24
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sethkhawkaloogie, ok, I always get those backwards, but the menu will tell you03:25
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hawkaloogiesethk, but 85 is "linux extended" huh?03:25
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EroickHey, has anyone used Fruity Loops or a simular program (synth)? Is there a simular program for Linux that lets you lay down drum lines and melodies?03:25
sethkhawkaloogie, not what you want03:25
Jack_Sparrowcabuloso: drop in the live cd and click on install03:25
sethkhawkaloogie, unlikely that it is extended, although some brain dead automatic partitioners do that03:25
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Skuz`how can i figure out what /dev one of my unmounted hard drives is?03:25
hawkaloogiesethk, okay, so it's that definition of "extended"03:25
hawkaloogiesethk, didn't ask for a partition type, does it use 83 by default?03:26
Jack_Sparrowcabuloso: THe bot has breat info on mp3 and other restricted formats03:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:26
sethkhawkaloogie, because of an absurd decision by IBM and microsoft many years ago, there is only space for four real (primary) partitions03:26
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hawkaloogiesethk, yeah, that's the extended thing03:26
sethkhawkaloogie, yes, the default type should be linux.  do p  (print) to display the partition table and make sure it says 8303:26
sethkhawkaloogie, right, to get more than four, you create on "extended" partition, and create logical partitions within it03:26
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hawkaloogiesethk, okay, then "w" for write03:27
sethkhawkaloogie, that's foolish if you have four or fewer partitions03:27
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sethkhawkaloogie, right03:27
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sethkhawkaloogie, if it doesn't look right, we can create an extended partition, and then a logical partition for the entire drive, but I think primary is more likely so try that first03:27
sethkhawkaloogie, you'll want to do a _read only_ fsck after saving the partition table.03:27
amonkeylongwave, fsck -yv /dev/sda1 cleared it all up, thanks03:27
sethkhawkaloogie, don't try to mount it, as that writes03:27
hawkaloogiesethk, okay, was wondering why it still shows no partitions03:28
sethkhawkaloogie, it doesn't, I hope.  :)03:28
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sethkhawkaloogie, you mean you didn't realize you had to display again, I assume03:28
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jmhodgesi just had to check the IEC* stuff towards the end of my alsa thing03:28
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hawkaloogiesethk, no, i tried ls -l /dev/hdd* and only showed the device, no partitions03:29
sethkhawkaloogie, after doing the w in fdisk?03:29
Eroickso is there a program that lets you do technoish synth?03:29
hawkaloogiesethk, yes03:29
brianprogrammerI am wondering how I get the signal strength to properly show up with the network monitor applet03:29
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sethkhawkaloogie, that's a very bad sign03:29
sethkhawkaloogie, something is seriously wrong there03:29
longwavebrianprogrammer: some network drivers do not yet support signal strength readings, so it may not be possible03:29
hawkaloogiesethk, as i surmised, yay maxtor03:30
sethkhawkaloogie, is this an old drive?03:30
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amonkeyi'm at the Disks Manager in gnome, but when i goto the partitions tab on my new drive, the 'create' button is greyed out. what do i do?03:30
brianprogrammerlongwave, brian@DFK1811:~$ iwconfig03:30
brianprogrammerlo        no wireless extensions.03:30
brianprogrammerwlan0     IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"T7r56bY2pGF9X"  Nickname:"okuwlan"03:30
brianprogrammer          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: 00:06:25:97:B9:4403:30
brianprogrammer          Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm03:30
brianprogrammer          Retry limit:8   RTS thr=1536 B   Fragment thr=1536 B03:30
brianprogrammer          Power Management:off03:30
brianprogrammer          Link Quality=0/0  Signal level=105/255  Noise level=0/003:30
brianprogrammer          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:003:30
brianprogrammer          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:003:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:30
brianprogrammereth0      no wireless extensions.03:30
brianprogrammersit0      no wireless extensions.03:30
aaronI'm having an issue with my Dapper router/server machine.  It provides DNS and DHCP via dnsmasq, and NAT via Guidedog.  When any of the machines on the internal network run Bittorrent, somewhere within 5 minutes to 1 hour the machine will lock hard, refusing to come out of screensaver.  The ram checks good in memtest...anyone have experience with this issue?03:30
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hawkaloogiesethk, younger than the WD 40gig and Maxtor 120 gig03:30
brianprogrammeroops sorry about that03:30
hawkaloogiesethk, (and the WD 40 gig has a broken pin...)03:30
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sethkhawkaloogie, try dumping out the SMART data for the drive, sounds like a hardware issue03:31
brianprogrammerif i run iwconfig03:31
brianprogrammeri get a signal strength reported03:31
brianprogrammerSignal level=105/25503:31
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longwavebrianprogrammer: "link quality" is the signal strength that the network applet displays, that is the strength reading03:31
sethkhawkaloogie, you could exchange some cables to make sure it isn't an IDE interface issue.03:31
sethkhawkaloogie, that's unlikely, but possible03:31
brianprogrammeris there any way to get it to display the one that says "signal level" ?03:31
hawkaloogiesethk, unlikely, the slave is still working fine03:31
pluto Can anyone recommend a good book  to help.  I'd like to learn more about what can be done from the command line and shells.03:31
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sethkhawkaloogie, forget that, then03:32
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hawkaloogiesethk, i think i'll just give up on it03:32
NullVectoranyone know how i can change teh font color of my task bars/panels?03:32
sethkhawkaloogie, do check that if it's an EIDE cable, both drives are jumpered for cable select03:32
KragneracHello, Is there anyway to get virtual Video Memory?03:32
brianprogrammerBecause my adapter doesn't report the link quality, however it reports the values to signal level03:32
hawkaloogiesethk, if that was bad it would show up in bios and the device wouldn't be anywhere03:32
sethkKragnerac, there are a very few graphics adapters that can do it.03:32
longwavebrianprogrammer: not that i know of, if there is nothing in the applet properties then i doubt it03:32
warbuscommandopluto, I found "Linux In a Nutshell" to be rather helpful, but it's more of a reference than a walkthrough03:32
Meezyo, having problems playing flac files in quod libet, trying to install gstreamer-flac, but get a "E: Package gstreamer-flac has no installation candidate", oh, and I'm on dapper, any ideas?03:32
angel12do atmel cards need the firmware in dapper?03:32
sethkhawkaloogie, not necessarily.  I've seen cases where the result was similar to what you are describing03:32
Masqyhas someone here copiled VLC recently? Should I really compile&install ~15 other packages before I can compile VLC?03:33
naliothbrianprogrammer: please read the /topic when you enter a channel on IRC.  It's usually the first thing you see upon entering a channel.03:33
hawkaloogiesethk, weird. would it spontaneously manifest after an fsck?03:33
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sethkhawkaloogie, not that part, the part of writing the partition table and then not seeing it.  If the drive used to work, I'd say you are correct.03:33
NullVectorMasqy - VLC is in the add remove programs03:33
longwaveMasqy: you can probably install the -dev packages for those unless they are specific vlc 0.8.5 versions03:34
plutowarbuscommand: Thanks.03:34
hawkaloogiesethk, final question: i've heard seagate is the most reliable drives on the market, any opin?03:34
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sethkhawkaloogie, my experience is that all the vendors have bad runs occasionally.03:34
MasqyNullVector: thanks,I know : )03:34
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longwavehawkaloogie: that's a loaded question, there is no one bad manufacturer :)03:34
hawkaloogiesure there is, maxtor03:35
sethkhawkaloogie, I've not personally had problems with seagate, and I have with maxtor and wd, but my sample size is too small to mean anything03:35
Masqylongwave: they say that only the official ones on their site are supported, but I'll try to install whatever I can with the apt-get03:35
longwavehawkaloogie: i have two dead seagate drives and two working maxtor ones, so that's not my experience ;)03:35
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hawkaloogietake a larger sample size and i've seen more people have problems with maxtor than any other brand, followed by WD, followed by seagate03:35
mhenning8Can anyone help me with getting wireless to work on my laptop with UBUNTU?03:35
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angel12mhenning8, what wireless chip do you have?03:35
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hawkaloogielongwave, c'est la vie and caveat emptor i guess, but i've got an ancient wd drive that's my main workhorse still going strong, perhaps they've earned my respect03:36
hawkaloogiethanks again all03:36
mhenning8Dell wireless 1350 it's a dell inspiron 600m03:36
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sethkhawkaloogie, wd has had some awful runs03:36
angel12mhenning8, its a broadcom 43xx chip03:36
HarksawSo everything I've read says that to take advantage of both my cores on my Pentium D for folding@home, I need to install the folding@home client twice, in two different directories. When i try to do this, it says it03:37
Harksawit's already installed and wont install again. Ideas?03:37
angel12mhenning8, there are a few decent guides on the forums, i havent set one up in a long time, not since the drivers were cracked.03:37
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longwaveangel12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper03:38
jikutyalrighty-- xubuntu is being installed on that old pc03:38
goldenflawhello, anyone have the following problem? 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001c (rev 01) from lspci03:38
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longwaveangel12: that guide (or an earlier version of it) worked well for my bcm43xx chip03:38
angel12longwave, not me, mhenning803:38
Supremacyanyone use widgets in here?03:38
amonkeyi just formated a 460gb partition with xfs in about 2 seconds. is this normal? i expected it to take much much longer.03:38
sethkgoldenflaw, that's not a problem03:38
damn_hothello room, ive got a problem with ubuntu, my friend gave me this ubuntu CD v6.06 LTS and after i setup and install ubuntu on a seperate partition, the installion finishes and restart the system, after it boots, i choose ubunto from the boot options and when ubuntu came, it asks me for username & pass, but when i enter the user name and pass during ubuntu setup it says, username/password mismatch ... what is wrong with this ?03:38
longwaveoh, sorry :)03:38
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longwavemhenning8: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper03:38
goldenflawseth: what is it?03:38
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goldenflawsethk: my wireless doesn't work anyhow I believe it has something to do with that?03:39
sethkgoldenflaw, a normal lspci output line03:39
sethkgoldenflaw, no, nothing at all to do with that03:39
mhenning8Wow, that looks pretty helpfull longwave, surprised I did not stumble into that earlier today :)03:39
sethkgoldenflaw, all that means is that it looked up the vendor and device ids and didn't find them in it's database03:39
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mhenning8I will beat on it with this, and Ill check back if I still have problems03:39
sethkgoldenflaw, which happens for lots of newer hardware03:39
goldenflawsethk: ahh, I see03:39
longwavemhenning8: it worked well for me; you probably want the "new broadcom driver" route rather than ndiswrapper03:39
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goldenflawsethk: I have a MacBook, I can receive packets from wireless source, but can't, for some reason, send packets03:40
longwavemhenning8: and yes, feel free to come back and ask if you get stuck with it :)03:40
goldenflawsethk: Any idea?03:40
sethkgoldenflaw, encryption key mismatch, perhaps?03:40
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goldenflawsethk: what does that mean? :P03:41
goldenflawsethk: rather, how do I fix that?03:41
inlanderfanyone experience with deploying os commerce03:41
longwavedamn_hot: are you 100% sure you're typing the username and password you set? what was the username? were there any "special characters" (other than numbers or english letters) in the password?03:41
sethkgoldenflaw, what do you mean exactly by the statement that you can receive but not send?03:41
angel12does anyone here use an atmel card with dapper?03:41
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Masqybut isn't there a way to install another 'installation tree' program, to which it shall be possible to install any package without affecting your system?03:42
damn_hotlongwave: on my left screen there is * Options and in the right screen there is server // Wed, Aug 30 time03:42
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damn_hoti am 100 % the username and my password is correct03:42
sethkMasqy, you can have two installs on the same box.  You can have two root file systems, which is what you mean I think03:42
sethkMasqy, and you can use chroot to select one, and updates will not impact the other03:42
goldenflawsethk: when I check the "connection property", there's Activity that describes the received and sent packets, only the received packets number increases, the sent packets remains null03:42
longwaveMasqy: you could read up about "chroot jails"03:42
sethkgoldenflaw, that can be because of a key mismatch.  You'll receive, because you are not asking for a key, but the access point won't ack you, because the key doesn't match.03:43
Masqysethk, longwave: why jails?03:43
goldenflawsethk: how do I proceed do fix a key mismatch?03:43
sethkMasqy, the name "jail" is intended to convey to you that changes in one part can't "escape" to the other part03:43
inlanderfanyone experience with deploying os commerce03:43
Supremacyanyone use widgets in here?03:44
sethkgoldenflaw, set the key.  :)  People here can tell you how.03:44
goldenflawsethk: thanks :P03:44
damn_hotits my first time running Ubuntu and i cant login from the 1st boot :( ... i think ubuntu is not meant for me :p03:44
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goldenflawHow may I fix a key mismatch (wireless)?03:45
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brianprogrammerHi, how can I get the source for the gnome network monitor applet?03:45
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sethkgoldenflaw, ask the more generic question, "how do I set my key"03:45
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damn_hotoh! longwave it says "The system administrator is not allowed to login from this screen."03:45
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angel12well, i keep trying to get an ip on my atmel wifi card and i cant get one.03:46
goldenflawHow do I set my key?03:46
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longwavebrianprogrammer: "apt-get source gnome-netstatus-applet"03:47
goldenflawMay anyone help me set my key?03:47
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brianprogrammerand then what would I do to modify view/modify the source?03:48
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brianprogrammerwhere would it be located?03:48
Supremacyi guess not03:48
TheGamegoldenflaw: what key03:48
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goldenflawTheGame: wireless key i believe03:48
zxcI have a FAT32 Partition..where would it be in Ubuntu?03:48
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TheGamewireless key for what?03:48
sethkTheGame, he means the wireless ethernet key03:49
brendonjtzxc:is it mounted?03:49
zxcbrendonjt: I don't know :/03:49
Rookie-[03:45]  <damn_hot> oh! longwave it says "The system administrator is not allowed to login from this screen." <<--- sounds like windows ... *grins evily*03:49
TheGameso basically he needs network-manager?03:49
Huckzxc look for /dev/hdd or /dev/hdd1 would probably be something like that..03:49
brendonjtzxc:it would more than likely have to be mounted03:49
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damn_hotRookie- : it is not windows... it is unbuntu login screen.03:50
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goldenflawTheGame: It's at the library, for some reason, I can only receive packets, but not send them03:50
damn_hotand that message was exactly what ubuntu says.03:50
Rookie-ohh? hmm ... root not allowed .. ? hmmm03:50
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TheGameur at the library goldenflaw ?03:50
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zxcbrendonjt: How can I mount it? (I can see it in /dev/desk/by-label but I can't access it)03:50
goldenflawTheGame: no, I am at home right now03:50
sethkdamn_hot, lot in as other than root, then use sudo or su03:51
TheGameso i dont understand what u want to do03:51
TheGameu want to setup wireless?03:51
brendonjthuck: i've had problems with  mounting fat32  it has to mounted ubuntu  does'nt  mount  them by default03:51
goldenflawTheGame: yes, so it works when I am at my library03:51
TheGameoh ok03:51
TheGamewhat computer r u running ubuntu on03:51
damn_hotsethk, then what will the password be for sudo03:51
sethkdamn_hot, the user's (not root, the logged in user's) password03:51
brendonjtzxc:what is the partition or drive ie hdb1 hdb2 hda2 hda3 etc03:52
sethkdamn_hot, which makes no sense, I know, but that's how it is set up.03:52
damn_hotduring installation, it asks me fpr user name and password, i used that. why i cant login03:52
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goldenflawTheGame: my Laptop, MacBook03:53
sethkdamn_hot, no idea.  you said you were having a problem, can't log in as root03:53
Huckbrendonjt, your right, I've followed the ubuntuguide.org in order to mount mine03:53
zxcbrendonjt: I don't know exactly...how can I check?03:53
sethkdamn_hot, what happens when you try to log in as the user/password you used?03:53
AndrukTatumon my other computer, my eth0 card isnt working, does anybody know how to configure it?03:53
damn_hotit says "incorrect username / password .. : something liek that.03:53
brendonjtzxc:it will list all your drives and the partitions03:54
sethkAndrukTatum, not without more information.  try ifconfig -a on the box, see if it shows up in the list03:54
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AndrukTatumsethk: ifconfig -a command not found03:55
goldenflawTheGame: 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT, if it is useful03:55
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shinta42benc, you there?03:55
sethkAndrukTatum, try  /sbin/ifconfig -a03:55
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AndrukTatumno such file or directory03:55
zxcDisc Manager is slow :/03:55
sethkAndrukTatum, sounds like networking isn't installed03:56
damn_hotsethk : after the installation is finished, the system reboots, and i choose normal ubuntu from the boot options and when then a login screen appears, is this normal on a 1st installation ?03:56
brendonjtzxc:yip itis scanning ur hdd's  and your ide ports03:56
sethkAndrukTatum, which would explain why the card doesn't show up.  although I'm curious about how you would know it doesn't show up if ifconfig isn't available03:56
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zxcbrendonjt: nvm...I'll just use windows to do it...thanks anyway though03:56
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plutoWhen I'm in a directory under my home directory and I want to return to the root direcotry, what is the easiest way to do so?03:58
sethkdamn_hot, not on the first reboot03:58
sethkdamn_hot, it should install bunches of stuff03:58
AndrukTatumsethk: im in gnome, and in the (sry, win...s term:) system tray in the upper right toolbar thing it has a networking monitor and it has a red x over it, and when i double click it, it tries to configure a ppp connection, and doesnt have an eth0 connection03:58
brendonjtpluto cd /03:58
corndog_I've finally given up on 64bit ubuntu and would like to downgrade/reinstall 32bit... any suggestions on how to backup or save my existing modifications?03:58
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AndrukTatumsethk: oh, and firefox doesnt do anything, not even my router03:59
sethkAndrukTatum, that's odd, I'm not sure how you got there.  but if ifconfig doesn't exist on the machine, something went wrong with the installation.03:59
damn_hotok... im reinstalling it again.03:59
damn_hotbbl. ^^03:59
sethkAndrukTatum, of course not, it has nowhere to send things to03:59
longwavepluto: "cd /" will take you to the root, just "cd" will take you to your home03:59
sethkAndrukTatum, double check,  do:   find / -name ifconfig         make sure it doesn't exist anywhere on the box03:59
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plutobrendonjt: thanks again!03:59
brendonjtpluto:  no worries04:00
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Huckbrendonjt, do etc3 drives get mounted automatically? just curious04:00
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brendonjthuck: umm nope  mine didn't had to edit the fstab  to do it, seems  ubuntu  just does the first ide hdd  weird though04:01
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AndrukTatumsethk: i t couldnt access a lot of directories, so im now sudo and did it, and it taking a long time04:01
brendonjthuck: ya need a hand with that?04:02
ubuntuLinux Live Cd is shiiiiiii04:02
sethkAndrukTatum, it's normal for that to take several minutes,04:02
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sethkAndrukTatum, it's a slow check but also a definitive one04:02
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brendonjtubuntu: why you say that04:02
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ubuntui dono04:02
Huckbrendonjt, no, I've got FAT32 drives as internals for storage, I was just curious. Thank you though :D04:02
ubuntufirst time using linux04:02
ubuntuand im bored04:02
ubuntui messed up trying to install linux04:02
ubuntuand there was an error04:02
ubuntuso i cant load up xp =(04:03
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AndrukTatumWarning, hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched04:03
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sethkubuntu, boot windows from cd and do  fdisk/mbr04:03
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brendonjtubuntu: boot to repair console from ur winxp  and type fdisk /mbr04:03
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DarkTowerThe Upgrade to04:03
DarkTowerDapper says it will remove Mysql common, does that mean i will lose all my tables?04:03
ubuntuwhat do i do04:03
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brendonjthuck: oh ok  i had fat32  but reformatted my drive to ext304:04
ubuntui dont have winxp cd with me04:04
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aukubotu, gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly04:04
Muhameri dont have win xp cd with me04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:04
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AndrukTatumsethk: Warning, hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver. automatically turning on find's -noleaf option. earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched04:04
brendonjtmuhamer:  ok  umm how did you stuff it up04:04
Jack_Sparrowcorndog_: You should be able to install 386 or 68604:04
Huckbrendonjt, yea, I need to share mine with windows, or I'd do the same.04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:04
RicesteamHow do I get true transparency with gnome-terminal?04:04
Muhamerare u pming me04:05
Muhamerjust so i dont bother other ppl by spamming :|04:05
sethkAndrukTatum, you can ignore that, /proc is a pseudo file system04:05
CSWookieDoes the live CD not have xterm?04:05
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longwave!info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly04:05
ubotugstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 176 kB, installed size 484 kB04:05
brendonjtmuhamer:  no i'm not04:05
DarkTowerWill I lose any mysql tables in the upgrade to dapper? it says it will remove mysql common in the upgrade process04:05
Jack_SparrowMuhamer: bootdisk.com04:05
CSWookieThere it is.04:05
Muhameri got 5 ppl telling me different things04:05
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brendonjthuck: pitty windows doesn't do other fs  formats04:06
AndrukTatumsethk: k, no results04:06
aukMuhamer: if you're talking to me, i'm am talking to ubotu [sic] , a bot on this channel04:06
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longwaveDarkTower: you shouldn't do, the mysql-server package should own the tables - is mysql-common being replaced by a newer version?04:06
CSWookiebrendonjt: It does.04:06
Muhameru talk to bots..04:06
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto04:06
CSWookiebrendonjt: There ae drivers for ext2, for example.04:06
Huckbrendonjt, yea, but that's the beauty of ubuntu/linux... it's "backwards" compatible :)04:06
Jack_SparrowYes we do04:06
leedI get a .patch file. So how to use it with patch command04:07
AndrukTatumubotu: will you marry me?04:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about will you marry me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:07
Muhamerw.e this isnt helping me ill wait for my friend to hel pme04:07
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brendonjtCSwookie: ok  what i was meaning was default  would be nice04:07
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DarkTowerlongwave: thanks, yes im just checking that. it wouldnt be normal to delete tables or anything would it?04:07
edjuStrangest thing - on the laptop, insert a commercial data cd, Scrabble game, Netgear insallation, etc, and it's mounted and is read w/o a hitch.  Insert a Linux livcd, knoppix, ubuntu, etc. and ubuntu sees it as a blank cd.  Mounts OK on a desktop machine.  Anybody w/ a hint?04:07
longwaveleed: generally just cd to the folder to patch, the "patch < file.patch"04:07
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brendonjthuck: yip  that's right, even the OSx  will read ntfs/fat3204:07
longwaveDarkTower: no, it shouldn't do that at all - even if you uninstall most packages any actual data you create usually gets left behind, so you can reinstall later and it will still work04:08
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DarkTowerlongwave: thanks for the help04:08
longwaveDarkTower: if you are upgrading a previous release to dapper though, i suggest you take a backup of anything vital just in case04:08
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Psykustrying to get an FM tuner working right, using gnomeradio, and it seems to be working, tuning it to a known station shows the signal strength go to max, but I cant get any audio04:09
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leedlongwave: It ask me to give the file to patch. So what  I should give, the src file or the bin file04:09
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Psykuspoking around in alsamixer now, looking to see if anything is muted, but I have no clue what it would be called04:10
aukmp3 support is in... gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, or gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3?04:10
bintutis there an ubuntu irc channel that discusses about embedded linux?04:10
AndrukTatumsethk: any ideas?04:10
longwaveleed: what are you trying to patch? patch generally handles source code patches..04:10
sethkAndrukTatum, if it's a new installation, I would repeat the installation, as something is very wrong04:10
auk(well, i know it's in the fluendo pkg, but what's the difference from the ugly packages and why would i choose one over teh other?)04:10
sethkbintut, I don't know of one off hand.  I've done a lot of embedded work, you can pm me if you like04:10
AndrukTatumsethk: ive had this install for awhile, but i wouldnt mind reinstalling it.  ill get to it, thanks a million!04:11
leedlongwave: rox-filer. It cann't deal with the non utf8 file. It cann't work now, and it will restart my X. So I found a patch.04:11
CSWookiebrendonjt: It would be nice, but since you're but a google search away...04:12
brendonjtCSwookie: i don't use windows yuk, just ubuntu04:12
CSWookiebrendonjt: Must be rough when you have to veiw a web site in IE.04:13
brendonjtCSwookie: you got that right all those security holes, and bugs, eeeww04:13
CSWookiebrendonjt: Eh.04:14
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Psykustrying to get an FM tuner working under ubuntu, using gnomeradio, and it seems to be working, tuning it to a known station shows the signal strength go to max, but I cant get any audio..poking around in alsamixer now, not seeing anything04:15
brendonjtCSwookie: and i myself and the people that i have set up ubuntu on there machine wonder why they hadn't made the change earlier04:15
CSWookiebrendonjt: Whatever.  Just don't put it on the wubs.04:15
longwaveleed: you should probably download the source with "apt-get source rox-filer", then apply the patch, then compile it from there04:15
brendonjtCSwookie: wubs??04:15
CSWookiebrendonjt: The intarwubs.04:15
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brendonjtCSwookie: lol04:16
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CSWookieWell, lets see if fsck did the job it was designed for.04:16
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CSWookieGod protect the rocket house and all who dwell within he rocket house!04:19
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Jack_SparrowLong live the rockettes...04:19
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Skuz`anyone mind sharing a good terminal mp3 player with me?04:20
Skuz`i've got juke installed but it wont add anything to queue04:20
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Psykusanyone else in here use an fm tuner in ubuntu?04:20
Skuz`i had used one once that worked really well04:20
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AndrukTatumthey should make IE for linux, so when all the 31337 hackzorz try to find the C drive, they get nuked04:20
Skuz`lol AndrukTatum04:20
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AndrukTatumdoes anybody know if wine can run IE?04:20
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AndrukTatumbecause, i totally trust Billy Gates to secure my computer.04:21
leedlongwave: so i should download the src file, and then patch the file04:21
Jack_SparrowAndrukTatum: not the latest.. 5.5 maybe.. but WHY would you do that to a ANY pc04:21
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MuhamerAnyone here04:21
DarkMageZAndrukTatum, yeah, wine can run internet exploder, alot of web dev's have to test their stuff with it...04:21
Muhamerthat can help me04:21
bartelcan someone help me with wireless on dapper?04:21
longwaveleed: presuming the patch is for the source version, yes04:21
bartelim getting Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth04:21
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longwaveAndrukTatum: yes, there are installers for various IE versions under wine04:21
Muhamerno helpers.04:21
leedlongwave: thanks04:22
FullerI was wondering if anyone could tell me the option to free up my terminal when I type sudo gedit04:22
bartelsudo gedit &04:22
syllogismIs there a better build system then gnu auto{conf,make,header} ?04:22
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peteweezoh serialize04:22
longwaveFuller: ctrl-Z then type "bg" so gedit doesn't stop04:22
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Fullerah, the & sign. maybe that's it.04:22
shawnr_anyone know of a good java irc chan?04:22
brendonjtmuhamer:  wots your problem, we tried04:22
longwaveFuller: if you want to run commands like that you can just press alt-f2 as well04:22
syllogismbecause this is just a pain in the @$$ to setup properly04:22
Skuz`So whats a good terminal mp3 player?04:22
bartelctrl-z bg does the same thing04:22
Skuz`juke isnt working out for me atm04:22
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Fullerhm. i'll try that too bartel and longwave.04:22
peteweezskuz: mplayer04:22
geomarcomputerscan someone please help me find an IDE SATA card supported by ubuntu ?04:23
barteldapper wireless?04:23
amonkey_my 460gb partition formatted with xfs in about 2 seconds. is this right/normal? i expected it to take longer04:23
AndrukTatumlmfao, thats really funny.  i would do that just so i could say i did04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
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ladydoorSkuz`: pytone04:23
Muhameri cant go on xp04:23
Muhamerand i couldnt get linux04:23
shawnr_good ;p04:23
AndrukTatumamonkey_: ah, the power of ext3, jk, no, it should definitely take longer.04:23
Muhamercuz there was an error04:23
shawnr_not good04:23
longwaveamonkey_: presumably xfs just does a quick format to initialise an empty root directory and nothing else04:23
Muhamerand now im on linux live04:23
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brendonjtmuhamer:  what was the error?04:24
Muhameruhh brb04:24
Muhamerhave it on paper :P04:24
ladydoorSkuz`: it takes a little configurating (you can get the sample rc out of /usr/share/doc/pytone and edit it), but it works great and is pretty04:24
MuhamerReboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key04:24
amonkey_longwave, i was able to make a file in it and read right to it04:24
Fullerhmmm...this is interesting. Now gedit doesn't seem to do anything.04:24
amonkey_longwave, what else should i do?04:24
Fullerjust hangs.04:24
eigenlambdaazureus sucks, but gnome-btdownload won't tell me which port i should foreward04:24
Skuz`ladydoor: how about one that doesnt require alot of editing to get it working :)04:24
eigenlambdaand i need to pirate windows vista prereleases04:24
longwaveamonkey_: nothing i guess, if you can mount and read/write it and "df" shows the right amount of free space04:24
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Muhamerso bren04:24
HeathenDanutorrent + wine eigenlambda04:24
longwaveFuller: did you type "bg" then press enter after ctrl-z?04:25
eigenlambdaHeathenDan: lol rite04:25
amonkey_longwave, still scary, was way to fast04:25
ladydoorSkuz`: well, to get it working you just need to tell it where your music is. the configuratin' i was referring to was just colors, keybindings, etc.04:25
Psykusi hate how wine uses the default ugly windows theme though04:25
Psykuswish it could convert it to GTK somehow04:25
Muhamerok bren isnt responding so..04:25
brendonjtmuhamer:  have you tried installing it again, where  to you try installing it to?04:25
eigenlambdayeah really04:25
Skuz`ladydoor:  ok :)04:25
ladydoorSkuz`: you might like mocp, though; on my dapper, however, it suddenly got ugly :-(04:25
Fullerlongwave: I tried gedit with the & sign first04:25
eigenlambdawould be cool to make wine do stuff like swing and look like gtk04:25
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Skuz`hmm mocp cant be found04:25
Skuz`is it avail on repos04:25
Fullerlongwave: Then after that it started to hang04:26
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longwaveFuller: it should also work with the & sign; did you get [1]  12345 or something after the command? that means the job was put in the background ok..04:26
Muhamerbren let me get my friend to answer since he did the installation so hold on04:26
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Fullerlongwave: Ah. Let me open a new terminal window and check it out.04:26
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longwaveFuller: to run commands like that you can press alt-f2 to enter a single command line04:27
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longwavethen you don't need the &04:27
Muhameru there04:27
brendonjtmuhamer:  yip04:27
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Muhameri cant find gparted04:27
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eigenlambdaso i wonder04:28
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Fullerlongwave: What if the file I need to edit is in a deep directory?04:28
eigenlambdawhether azureus will like that i have dash as /bin/sh04:28
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nictukuis there any known corner case where the owner of /var/spool/postfix/defer/* directories is 'klog' instead of postfix?04:28
longwaveFuller: in that case, if you're used to the command line, the & version or ctrl-z/bg trick should work too04:28
brendonjtmuhamer:  what is the cd is it a downloaded or a pressed one from ship-it04:28
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eigenlambdai love how compiz shows that windows are frozen!04:29
longwaveFuller: if you close the terminal that you started gedit from, it might have problems though04:29
eigenlambdawould be cool if the grey was kind of blue though, and the windows got some icicles.  lol.-04:29
Muhamerbren my friends on phone can u hold on a sec04:29
Skuz`yea i need a real music player ladydoor04:29
Psykusanyone able to help me with my fm tuner question? the app (gnomeradio) seems to see and use the tuner card fine, but i'm not getting any audio04:29
Skuz`not one that takes 6 months to configure04:29
peteweezSkuz: mplayer04:29
peteweezit's great04:29
Skuz`thats not going to do me a bit of good mate04:29
brendonjtmuhamer:  yip ok04:29
Skuz`i need a terminal mp3 player firstly :P04:30
peteweezmplayer works in terminal04:30
longwavempg321 is pretty basic as mp3 players go04:30
eigenlambdavote for colbert04:30
Skuz`longwave:  thats the one i've used before04:30
Skuz`i liked it04:30
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Fullerlongwave: When I type bg, it asks for a password, but interprets my password as a command it does not recognize and then fails.04:31
peteweezeigenlambda: if you delete cookies, you can vote multiple times...i voted for colbert like 5 times04:31
longwaveFuller: ah, that may be something to do with running sudo in the background04:32
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longwaveFuller: try using "gksudo" instead for graphical apps04:32
eigenlambdathey use cookies to determine who you are04:32
eigenlambdai am impressed04:32
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Muhamerits downloaded04:32
Muhamerand i tried installing it again04:32
peteweezto make sure you only vote once04:32
eigenlambda::goes to stuff the n00bs ballot box::04:32
Muhamerand i don't remember where to04:32
longwaveFuller: of course you do not need sudo if you have permissions to write to the file anyway04:32
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Skuz`thank you longwave :)04:32
Skuz`this was the mp3 player i used before04:32
Skuz`works fine :)04:32
RicesteamWhats the difference between Quinn-Compiz and the Compiz in Synaptic?04:33
longwaveSkuz`: yep, it doesn't do much, but what it does do it does well :)04:33
brendonjtmuhamer:  in you systems bios  have you got it set to boot from that drive?04:33
peteweezeigenlambda: I think someone made a php script cuz there was a name like php-script that got a crapload of votes.04:33
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Fullerlongwave: Right. This file is running in the pygame examples directory outside of my Home though. :-)04:33
Jack_Sparrowgoodnight all04:33
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redsoxfan90https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 what linux do i choose?04:34
Peloevening guys04:34
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brendonjtmuhamer:  has anyone else used that cd to install  ubuntu  or just you04:34
peteweezredsoxfan90: depends on your needs...but ubuntu & debian are the best ;-)04:34
CSWookieWhat's the port for secure mail server?  425?04:34
D0wnI need some help compiling gtk04:34
D0wnor installing04:34
longwaveFuller: if you are editing files that have been installed by an ubuntu package, i recommend copying them to somewhere in your home folder so you can edit them easier, and any future package upgrades won't overwrite your changes04:34
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redsoxfan90i have ubuntu04:35
redsoxfan90please click that link04:35
redsoxfan90to know waht im talking about :)04:35
XSahHi, I want to ask, when i download a package using apt-get install, then i want that package to use it in other computer that does not connecting to the internet, then where i will find it !!!?04:35
StoneNoteCSWookie, I think it's 46504:35
peteweezD0wn: You're really having problems with graphical libraries today, arent you?04:35
Muhamerno one else used it04:35
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peteweezI hate that.04:35
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StoneNoteCSWookie, Secure SMTP Port: 465 Secure POP3 Port: 99504:35
Fullerlongwave: True. Perhaps I will do that. Thanks for the tip.04:36
longwaveCSWookie: port 465 is the standard smtp over ssl port04:36
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D0wnI tried to compile it, but that didn't work04:36
D0wnI wish there was a place where i could get GTK+ in a .deb04:36
redsoxfan90XSah: how do you expect it to get files if your not on the net?04:36
peteweezD0wn: can't you use the ubuntu repository?04:36
StoneNoteMuhamer, FreeNode04:36
peteweezthey have debs04:36
D0wnIt wouldn't work04:36
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Muhamerwhat the hell is that lol04:36
nownottim trying to boot windows in ubuntu with vmware but im haveing problems can someone help me w/ this04:36
longwaveD0wn: gtk+ is available in the repositories04:36
micahcowanMuhamer, do you have a question about ubuntu?04:37
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XSahredsoxfan90: i downloaded it using a one connecting to the net04:37
XSahthen i want to use it in another computer04:37
Psykusthere's also a TV tuner on this card...trying it out with tvtime, can't get audio working on that either04:37
Muhamerive been here for almost an hr04:37
peteweezresoxfan: ok that depends what your graphics card it04:37
brendonjtstonenote:  what you think there muhamer's problem04:37
redsoxfan90buy  a router04:37
longwaveD0wn: you probably want libgtk2.0-dev if you're trying to compile a package that needs GTK+ 2.004:37
peteweezredsoxfan: what's your graphics card?04:37
redsoxfan90peteweez: i have radeon 200m04:37
D0wnWhen I do a "sudo apt-cache search gtk+" there are too many results to try to find it04:37
StoneNotebrendonjt, my esp is on the fritz so I can't tell04:37
longwaveD0wn: what exactly are you trying to do?04:38
nownottpls some help w/ vmware04:38
peteweezredsoxfan: what's your cpu?04:38
redsoxfan90im not sure04:38
D0wnI'm trying to install it so I can compile source's04:38
redsoxfan90how can i check?04:38
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wweaselXSah:" redsoxfan is being an ass. I am following your conversation because I am curious about the answer to your question.04:38
brendonjtmuhamer:  when you installed it when it came to the disk partioner what options did you set?04:38
StoneNotenownott, what's up. I use vmware04:38
peteweezredsoxfan: is it intel pentium d, athlon, what?04:38
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longwaveD0wn: if you install the libgtk2.0-dev package that gives you everything you need to compile other GTK+ 2.0 applications04:38
redsoxfan90amd sempron04:38
Muhamerffs my friend went offline hold on :|04:38
brendonjtstonenote:  i'm nearly pulling my hair out  only getting half the story04:38
redsoxfan90XSah: i honestly am not sure04:38
peteweezredsoxfan: is it 64 bit?04:38
redsoxfan90XSah: i have a router04:39
Fullerlongwave: Well. the gksudo returned an interesting message. It said: (gedit:13986): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.04:39
redsoxfan90peteweez: i think a 32 im not sure :(04:39
ladydoorD0wn: libgtk2.0-dev is, i think, the specific package name04:39
D0wnI'll try "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev"04:39
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redsoxfan90XSah: im not the world's smartest person.04:39
ladydoorFuller: itsn't that the standard gedit error? i heard there was one04:39
peteweezredsoxfan: even if it's 64, it only acts like a 64 if you got a 64 version of linux... do uname -a and tell me what it says04:39
brendonjtmuhamer:  you have to tell us the whole story  not half of it04:39
Fullerladydoor: standard gedit error?04:39
StoneNotebrendonjt, you can't force someone to communicate with you :) if he cannot state his problem in a hour then maybe that is his problem.04:39
MuhamerTHis is my computer04:40
MuhamerI let my friend install it because i didnt kno how to04:40
Muhamerso he knows everything and im trying to reach him on phone and msn but hes not on04:40
XSahi didnt say that i just want to know how to install any update or any program to one is not connecting to the internet... thats all!04:40
Peloredsoxfan90 , what kernel are you using , that will tell you if you need the i386 or x64 driver04:40
ladydoori *thought* i heard that gedit spits out an error anytime you run it with gksudo. you might try sudo nano -w in a terminal instead; nano's "user-friendly" for a console-based app04:40
amonkeyi put my xfs partition into fstab and now it works fine for root but my user can't make files or anything. how to i let regular people use the drive?04:40
redsoxfan90redsoxfan90@redsoxfan90-laptop:~$ uname -a04:40
redsoxfan90Linux redsoxfan90-laptop 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux04:40
peteweezredsoxfan90: what does uname -a say?04:40
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peteweezook you're 32 bit04:41
peteweeznot 6404:41
redsoxfan90thought so :)04:41
longwaveFuller: it looks like that's only a warning, does gedit still work after that message shows up?04:41
peteweezso get i38604:41
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redsoxfan90i want the top link or bottom?04:41
peteweezor x8604:41
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:41
peteweezredsoxfan90: x86, the top one04:41
Fullerlongwave: It could be hanging again, as a window does not pop up. I have to hit ctrl+z to get out.04:41
peteweezredsox: not x86_6404:41
redsoxfan90Motherboards with ATI Graphics Notebooks with ATI Graphics04:41
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brendonjtladydoor: thank you for that  gezz04:42
Fullerladydoor: I'm trying to find a way to view a file and keep my terminal window from being hijacked by the file. :-)04:42
peteweezredsox: do you have a desktop or a laptop?04:42
redsoxfan90does it matter which one i choose?04:42
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redsoxfan90so notebook :)04:42
peteweezdo you have a graphics card or is it integrated?04:42
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XSahso no body know how to save the files that i downloaded using this command "apt-get install something"04:42
redsoxfan90what do you mean my interfrate?04:42
longwaveFuller: if you only want to view a file, use "less" to read it in the console, scroll with cursor keys then q to quit04:42
redsoxfan90they save automatically i think Xsah04:42
D0wnThanks to all who just helped me :D04:43
redsoxfan90or cntrl o04:43
XSahredsoxfan90: where?04:43
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redsoxfan90no clue buddy04:43
redsoxfan90ive been using ubuntu for lika  week04:43
redsoxfan90as you notice im getting my graphic driver :)04:43
ladydoorbrendonjt: for what?04:43
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XSahredsoxfan90: i want to use them latter in other computer...04:43
ladydoorFuller: use gnu screen04:43
redsoxfan90i don;t think thats possible04:43
brendonjtladydoor: pulling him up on shouting04:43
longwaveFuller: this bug has been reported in launchpad but does not affect everyone, and there is no current fix :(  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/2391704:43
Muhameru there04:43
redsoxfan90hook up that other computer to the interent04:43
ladydoorbrendonjt: oh...i thought you were being sarcastic. haha04:44
Fullerlongwave: I suppose it couldn't hurt to have one terminal window open to look at while I have another. I was hoping to take advantage of my mouse's scroll wheel to browse the file without the window needing to be active however.04:44
brendonjtmuhamer:  i'm here04:44
MuhamerNumbah51 is the guy04:44
Fullerladydoor: is that a terminal command?04:44
Muhamerso ask him st0ff04:44
longwaveFuller: if you are using gnome-terminal, you can open tabs for little-used terminals to save screen space04:44
ladydoorFuller: yes and no. it turns one terminal...into many04:44
adil_I don't want to start abrawl but what do you guys use for e-mail... I am looking for something close to MS Outlook04:44
XSahredsoxfan90: that will be a crazy thing " assuming that the update and the new packages about 350" and my internet download speed is 13Kb04:44
Fullerladydoor: Say what?04:44
ladydoorFuller: and it will change your computing life :-)04:44
ladydoorFuller: lol04:44
brendonjtnumbah51: what happened when you went to install it04:44
redsoxfan90Xsah try doing a search on your comp04:45
Fullerladydoor: Uh oh, a life changing experience?04:45
ladydoorFuller: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/04:45
redsoxfan90and try attacking them in a email04:45
ladydoorFuller: not really04:45
redsoxfan90no clue man04:45
ladydoorFuller: i was being ironic04:45
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Fullerladydoor: hahaha!04:45
ladydoorFuller: but it is really useful04:45
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Numbah51Muhamer: Do you remember?04:45
brendonjtnumbah51: he could have a corrupt copy of the iso  in that part did you use the live cd to install04:45
longwaveFuller: "screen" is like a set of tabbed terminals that is very useful if you have a lot of terminal sessions to manage04:45
XSahredsoxfan90: do you know any good site for ubuntu packages specially ?04:45
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peteweezredsox: sorry my computer rebooted04:46
redsoxfan90peteweez: no problem04:46
brendonjtnumbah51: he is getting on my nerves he has only been giving half the story04:46
Fullerlongwave: Ah. I see. This is gnu screen you are talking about?04:46
redsoxfan90XSah: not sure once again i use synaptic04:46
brassdoes anybody know why root would not be able to chane the group of a folder?04:46
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Numbah51brendonjt: No we didn't use the livecd04:46
redsoxfan90XSah: try a search on google perhaps04:46
longwaveFuller: yes04:46
redsoxfan90ill get u a link04:46
redsoxfan901 sec04:46
brendonjtnumbah51: ok  try  using the live cd to install it04:46
Fullerlongwave: Is it already installed in Ubuntu?04:47
ladydoorbrendonjt: what folder is it?04:47
brendonjtas it has a very good gui  for installing04:47
ladydoorbrendonjt: sorry04:47
peteweezredsoxfan90: I think laptops always have integrated graphics, but I'm not sure (btw, I'm a red sox fan too :-)04:47
ladydoorbrendonjt: that was for brass04:47
longwaveFuller: no, but it's in the repositories04:47
Numbah51brendonjt: ok he can try but i'm not at his house right now but he's a noob04:47
ladydoorbrass: what folder is it?04:47
Fullerlongwave: Alright. I'll go check it out.04:47
fernbrass .. this sounds like a permissions thing04:47
eigenlambdaya red soxxez!04:47
brendonjtladydoor: that cool04:47
XSahredsoxfan90:Thank you, yes i did and i found, but the update made a trouble, any way thank you04:47
eigenlambdalol whos heres from boston?04:47
brassmy 'music' folder.    owner:  root    group:   plugdev04:47
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peteweezmy dad was born in Lawrence, MA04:47
redsoxfan90peteweez: soxs are doing horrible i quit watching them :P04:47
brasswhen I change it from a sudo nautilus..   it imediately changes back.   when I use chgrp.  nothing happens04:48
longwaveFuller: actually, no, screen is included in ubuntu-desktop, you should already have it04:48
redsoxfan90were do you live ?04:48
peteweezredsoxfan90: yeah it is bad04:48
brendonjtnumbah51: ok  do it for him from the live cd so he don't muck it up04:48
peteweezredsoxfan90: Marylan04:48
brassnautilus says I don't 'have the permissions'04:48
redsoxfan90your father around?04:48
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eigenlambdasoxes vs yanquis 2yrs ago was awesome04:48
redsoxfan90ah ok04:48
eigenlambda...then we steamroll over stl04:48
Fullerlongwave: Ah. alright.04:48
redsoxfan90yes but there ina slumb04:48
redsoxfan90the soxs owners are stupid atm04:48
peteweezyeah no kidding04:48
Numbah51brendonjt: ok i'll do it tomorrow and i'll let you know tomorrow how it turned out04:48
redsoxfan90they didnt sighn no104:48
peteweezbut they're into big finishes04:48
redsoxfan90won't happen this year04:49
peteweezwho's he?04:49
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fernbrass .. find the linux survival guide in google and do the modules04:49
redsoxfan90the redsoxs owner didn't sighn anyone.04:49
peteweezoh ok04:49
bearI have a real quick question...  where does the network config file live and where is DNS stored?04:49
barataanybody uses pocketpc with ubuntu?04:49
brendonjtok  i think  it might be the disk partioner he would get stuck on lol04:49
peteweezredsoxfan90: I think you're going to need x86 for laptops with integrated graphics.04:49
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:49
Numbah51lol ok04:49
longwavebear: /etc/network/interfaces for dhcp/static ip configs, dns resolvers are in /etc/resolv.conf04:49
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fernsystem .. amin .. networking04:50
bearis there a better network manager than the one that comes defaultly with ubuntu04:50
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redsoxfan90peteweez: i got it04:50
Fullerladydoor: Will screen display .py files?04:50
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redsoxfan90peteweez: im going to pm you04:50
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peteweezredsoxfan90: pm?04:50
peteweezwhat does pm mean?04:50
redsoxfan90private message04:50
AgrajagFuller: screen doesn't display any files04:50
brendonjtbrb  going for a smoke after all that04:50
peteweezoh ok04:50
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ladydoorFuller: it displays your terminal04:51
FullerAgrajag: Hm. I'll have to read the documentation...04:51
peteweezbrendonjt: smoking will kill you.04:51
AgrajagFuller: screen is a program that allows you to open a virtual terminal that you can detach from and reattach to04:51
pike_bear: its pretty easy just to use the command line tools04:51
brendonjtpeteweez:i know  i am giving up  but after that guy  yikes04:52
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FullerAgrajag, ladydoor: Is going to File>Open Tab the same as using this screen ability?04:52
brassdoing modules will not help me give the root users permissions04:52
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fernany ideas how get this system to recognise a USB modem04:52
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longwaveFuller: it is kind of the same thing, but way more powerful - though you will need to read the docs to get the most out of  it04:53
AgrajagFuller: no04:53
ladydoorFuller: what longwave said04:53
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Fullerlongwave, ladydoor, Agrajag: Alright. I'll go read the docs. Thanks all for your help!04:53
fernBrass... it will tell you haow to do that04:53
AgrajagFuller: all you really need, for now: "screen" starts a new screen. ctrl-a, d detaches. screen -r reattaches.04:53
gre123 anyone ever try KANOTIX?04:53
richardIm having problems with downloading files bigger than 2 GB ... ie Ubuntu DVD - they consistantly fail - and i do have the space04:53
Agrajagrichard: what filesystem is the drive you are trying to save the files to?04:54
gre123i was think of usin it as a second distro on my comp04:54
ladydoorAgrajag: out of curiosity, do you use the default C-a as the master key?04:54
richarder standard install filesystem04:54
Agrajagrichard: so, ext3?04:54
richardhow do i check ...... but i think so yeah04:55
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Agrajagyou can run "mount" in a terminal and it will show you all mounted filesystems04:55
Agrajagtypes, and mount options used on each04:55
sceptre0is there an easy way to detect a new mouse without restarting?04:55
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FullerAgrajag: What does ctrl-a do?04:55
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brassdo you also think the modules will tell me why the owner, whose also a member of the group can't change the group?04:55
longwaveladydoor: i use the default ctrl-a, my only change to screen is a custom status bar with load averages, date/time and the window list04:55
gianluigibuffonI need some help guys04:56
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:56
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gianluigibuffonI downloaded reloadevery for conqueror... is a xpi file... how I install it???????04:56
ladydoorlongwave: oh, sweet04:56
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sceptre0gianluigibuffon: open it with firefox04:57
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ladydoorgianluigibuffon: are you talking about konqueror, the KDE web browser, or conkeror, the firefox extension?04:57
Fullerlongwave: Does ctrl+a move between the tabs?04:57
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gianluigibuffonkonqueror with I can browse the internet too04:57
gianluigibuffonI browse with firefox04:57
ladydoorFuller: C-a n and C-a p does04:57
AgrajagFuller: in screen, ctrl-a by itself tells screen that the next key you press is a screen command04:57
gianluigibuffonbut I want reloadevery for konqueror04:57
ladydoorFuller: or C-a *tabnumber*04:57
shawnr_gianluigibuffon, xpi is an extension for firefox plugins04:57
Agrajagctrl-a, d detaches, for example.04:57
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gianluigibuffononly for firefox?04:58
longwaveFuller: all screen commands are ctrl+a then another keypress; ctrl+a space moves to the next window, ctrl+a ctrl+a moves back, or ctrl+a number to go direct to a window04:58
gianluigibuffonthen where can I find plugings for Konqueror??????04:58
bearPike what command line tools?04:58
Fullerlongwave, ladydoor, Agrajag: I see. I see...thanks again.04:58
gre123GOOD NIGHT04:58
richardyeah ext304:58
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peteweezoops didn't know ppl could get booted for flooding04:59
peteweezpoor redsoxfan9004:59
ladydoorFuller: sweet, hope you like it04:59
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Fullerlongwave, ladydoor, Agrajag: Ah! Yes. Now I can go to a new terminal even if the one is being hijacked by gedit. Sweet deal.04:59
ladydoorFuller: :-)05:00
Fullerladydoor: My life will never be the same! :P05:00
AgrajagFuller: hijacked by gedit?05:00
pike_bear: you were asking about tools for managing connections. i just meant like ifconfig iwconfig dhclient and such05:00
gianluigibuffonnah I will do it with firefox05:00
longwaveAgrajag: Fuller seems to be experiencing https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/2391705:00
FullerAgrajag: Referring to how you cannot do anything more with a terminal after typing gedit.05:00
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longwaveAgrajag: which is causing problems when running gksudo gedit in the background for some reason05:01
AgrajagFuller: of course you can05:01
AgrajagFuller: gedit&05:01
richard/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:01
AgrajagFuller: or, run gedit from the terminal, select the terminal window, hit ctrl+z, then run "bg"05:01
bearpike_: so what your saying is I should read the man file on ifconfig05:01
AgrajagFuller: now you're got 3 ways to avoid it05:01
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gianluigibuffonhey guys05:01
FullerAgrajag: I was trying that...but it wasn't opening the gedit window, and the terminal was just hanging...05:01
Agrajagyou've, even05:02
gianluigibuffonhow I install a tar.gz with dapper????05:02
orlockHey, is anybody here using a Nvidia nForce 430 based board that can chck something for me?05:02
pike_bear: give me a for instance on what youre trying to connect to05:02
ladydoorFuller: lol05:02
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FullerAgrajag: Ha. However, for some reason. This time it worked...05:02
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ladydoorFuller: you might also try <alt>F2 gksudo nautilus <enter>05:02
peteweezredsoxfan90: you there?05:02
richardAgrajag: /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:02
ozzloyis there a way to say "what's process has this file open right now?"05:02
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orlockozzloy: fuser05:03
sethkozzloy, lsof | grep filename05:03
Agrajagrichard: oh, well that's odd, ext3 has no 2gig limit that I know of05:03
bearpike_: I have a note book and I travel between 13 offices all with different wireless configurations05:03
richardmaybe its a firefox bug05:03
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Fullerladydoor: Yes, I suppose then whenever I opened a file it would be in root mode. That's a good tip, thanks.05:03
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ladydoorFuller: np05:04
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richardAgrajag: i'll try a downloader program - any suggestions?05:04
Agrajagrichard: wget05:04
pike_bear: i do normally this: 1. "sudo -s" 2. "iwlist ath0 scan" 3. "iwconfig ath0 essid namethescanfound" 4. "dhclient ath0"05:04
Agrajagjust open a terminal and run "wget <file>"05:04
MuhamerThanks Bren, see you tomorrow.05:04
ozzloythank you orlock sethk05:04
bearpike_: I just want to beable to auto connect to the networks without having to kepp putting in the wep keys05:04
Fullerladydoor, Agrajag, longwave: Thanks for arming me with these new commands. I'm going to go get some rest. Good evening.05:04
Justin_IS OSS/ALSA the best that Linux audio gets?05:04
pike_bear: ah wep05:04
ladydoorFuller: :-)05:04
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ladydoorFuller: good luck05:04
brendonjtladydoor:  here is something i have been trying to figure out  what does the gk in gksudo  gedit  mean05:04
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ladydoorbrendonjt: it means that it's a "gtk" version of sudo05:05
brendonjtladydoor:  ok  is it better  or just the same05:05
ladydoorbrendonjt: i.e., graphikal and integrated with gnome, as opposed to being a terminal command05:05
AbstIs there any mail client for linux that is always open in the GNOME panel and will alert me of new email when it comes?05:05
richardAgrajag: is wget the same as aget - if not its not on synaptic05:05
brendonjtladydoor:  ok  ithank you for clearing that up for me05:06
ladydoorbrendonjt: it's just for graphikal applications that're going to open their own windows, whereas sudo is for the command line05:06
gianluigibuffonhow I install a tar.gz with dapper????05:06
ladydoorbrendonjt: np05:06
pike_bear: that would be editing the interfaces file for the autoconnect and specifying the wep keys. i know in solaris you can do multiple keys and even profiles with wificonfig (similar to iwconfig in linux sortof)05:06
Agrajagrichard: wget is in there, maybe you don't have universe enabled?05:06
richardi do05:06
AbstRichard: Why not go into Terminal and type sudo apt-get install wget05:07
AbstThat'll install it05:07
richardah gwget05:07
richardfound it05:07
peteweezredsoxfan90: u there?05:07
Agrajagmust be some graphical frontend05:07
richardthats it .... when you search05:07
AgrajagI find this when I search: wget - retrieves files from the web05:07
AbstJust got gwget05:08
AbstIts a graphical download manager05:08
longwavebear: you can have at least 4 keys stored at once in /etc/network/interfaces05:08
squeaksi have multiple serverlayout's in my xorg.conf, i had been (in previous linux distros) logging in to at a text login, and running startx -- -layout CHOICE, but what i did in ubuntu was change rc2.d/ so that gdm does not run at runlevel 2, then i did startx -- -layout Multihead, then telinit 3, and i logged in again at the gdm login... What would be the best way?05:08
Agrajaganyway gwget looks like it's just a pnome frontend, so use that05:08
Agrajager, gnome05:08
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longwavebear: look in /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian for examples05:08
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eigenlambdaus.archive.ubuntu.com is down... lol...05:08
peteweezanybody know of a clock for linux that displays decimal (french republican) time?05:08
bearpike_: I glanced at the file let me look at it again05:08
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AbstNo one knows a email client that will be always on in the background and alert me when new mail is in?05:08
eigenlambdapeteweez: lol!05:08
squeaksi could find many guides on setting up serverlayout's in xorg.conf, but nothing mentioning how to pick which serverlayout is used05:09
bearlongwave: thanks let me take a look05:09
joltGot another one for you all.. I have a generic USB audio class device... how do i force Ubuntu to reconize it as an option05:09
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eigenlambdafrench revolutionary time05:09
longwavesqueaks: can't you use gdm to start a different X server depending on the session you select?05:09
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richardAbst: Thunderbird is good05:09
joltIt reconizes the mic from my logitech camera but not a headset05:09
ajhtiredwolf I was thinking of installing ubuntu opposed to FC5, does ubuntu have good security features?05:09
MagicFabhi, is there a way to enable remote-desktop access (via VNC) on a machine via SSH (without the GUI tool in System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop) ?05:09
Abstrichard: On windows it has an icon on the taskbar, will it have that in Linux?05:09
peteweezeigenlambda: what's so funny05:09
richard*goes to check05:09
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peteweezeigenlambda: it'd just be funny to be able to say omg, it's 78 past 4!!!05:10
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Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Security really depends on how you fix up the system - of course some systems comes pre-packed with more security in mind, Ubuntu server would most likely be more secure then the desktop version - but you can make the desktop version as secure as you want if you wish to play around with it.05:10
Skuz`oh great no audio in Quake 305:11
richardAbst: you can minimise it - or put it in another workspace05:11
Skuz`anyone have any ideas as to what the cause might be05:11
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ajhtiredwolfJustin: well I guess my question should be then, is it about as secure as Fedora core 505:11
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zerojakelSkuz`: install alsa-oss05:11
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Yes05:11
Skuz`zerojakel, okay05:11
Abstrichard: yeah but I usually use all 4 workspaces - I want it like Gaim when you've got no windows open. I'll check synaptic.05:11
sethkajhtiredwolf, identically configured, they are identically secure05:11
ladydoorAbst: there're utilities to check your mail, and even an evolution plugin to notify you (i think)05:11
Skuz`zerojakel,  any configuration needed after that?05:12
Abstladydoor: Utilities I have to download?05:12
ladydoorAbst: possibly05:12
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AbstKay ill check05:12
ladydoori know that mailutils has one05:12
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: I've had about enough of fedora core, every time I try and ask for help in the forum or on their irc I just get someone with a bad aditude looking to just piss off people who dont know as much about Fedora as they do05:12
ladydoorAbst: and you might look for something under "evolution" and maybe under "thunderbird"05:12
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: so im looking for the best alternate solution to Fedora, while still being able to use linux.05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.05:13
orlockajhtiredwolf: heh, i get people that assume cos they dont understand the problem, its not an issue so i should stop whining05:13
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Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Well Ubuntu is your solution especially if you want a supportive community - active and friendly forums, and IRC - and is as secure as the fedora core - if not more secure ;)05:13
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squeakslongwave, do i setup gdm by editing /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm, or by running gdmsetup, or /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf-custom?05:14
squeaksor none of those 3?05:14
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angel12hey guys, does anyone have an atmel card with ubuntu?05:14
daMaestrois the ati fglrx support out of box?05:14
ajhtiredwolfJustin_:excellent, also, do you know if it has good support for ati drivers? Because ive never been able to get them to work on Fedora05:14
Abstladydoor: Is fetchmail what you mean?05:14
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longwavesqueaks: i think gdm.conf-custom is your best bet, though i haven't played around with gdm all that much05:14
squeaksajhtiredwolf, i just switched from Fedora to ubuntu, and i like ubuntu thus far05:14
Justin_But then again security really is left up to the user after the base level, some users need more security for network - others for programs still others for e-mail etc - so it depends on what you want to do after you get the base, and of course there is plenty of software to build up the fortress you want to have :)05:14
sethkajhtiredwolf, the support is identical05:14
ladydoorAbst: fetchmail will get your mail, but won't notify you05:15
sethkajhtiredwolf, the same binary ati drivers are used with ubuntu and fedora05:15
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StoneNotethe linux desktop is more secure than the windows desktop since most actions occur with a nonpriveleged userid.  everything in windows is usually done as an administrator (equal to root)  which is THE biggest hole besides IE05:15
zerojakelSkuz`: no nothing05:15
orlockIs anybody here running an nForce 430 based board?05:15
Skuz`zerojakel, okay i still have no sound in quake 305:15
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Well I am on Radeon and it works fine - if you mean the "flgrix" drivers.. well that is pretty much the same across the board - drivers are drivers really, but works fine for me.05:15
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daMaestroSkuz`, set the audio to oss? from 'best'?05:15
ajhtiredwolfit cant be though can it? They use differnet kernels, and the kernel version im using seems to be the problem.05:15
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daMaestroajhtiredwolf, what kernel are you using?05:16
ladydoorAbst: you could use, say, GNU messages from GNU Mailutils to check your mail and write a script to notify you. or you could, again, check for an evolution or firefox plugin :-)05:16
zerojakelSkuz`: and alsa-oss?05:16
sethkajhtiredwolf, they don't use different kernels05:16
ajhtiredwolfbut anyway... as long as I could at least get some help with installing them without someone pissing on me....05:16
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sethkajhtiredwolf, where did you get that idea?05:16
longwavethey *do* use slightly different kernels05:16
Skuz`daMaestro, what?05:16
Justin_sethk, Fedora's kernel is not the same as Ubuntu's05:16
longwavered hat and ubuntu patch the stock kernel with their own different sets of patches05:16
Skuz`all i did was install alsa-oss you said i didnt have to do anything else05:16
kohrok,can i write to  ntfs from ubuntu05:16
Justin_It is the same kernel, but they are modified differently05:16
Skuz`kohr,  no05:16
Skuz`soon though05:16
dasGewitte1What is the latest version/release of Xscreensaver?05:16
ajhtiredwolfok I understand now05:16
daMaestroSkuz`, i had to switch my sound system (in the q3 config) to use OSS not ALSA05:16
sethkJustin_, the particular kernel version for a distro release may be different, but that's hardly significant05:16
Skuz`daMaestro, how do i do that?05:17
sethkJustin_, and anybody who runs with ubuntu's distro kernel isn't paying attention05:17
Justin_sethk, Again config makes a difference05:17
Skuz`quake 3 isnt saving my config file05:17
Skuz`each time i run it i have to set it up again05:17
ajhtiredwolfcan you use something similar to yum with ubuntu?05:17
kohrskuz, what filesystem can linux and windows both write to?05:17
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Skuz`ajhtiredwolf, yes, apt05:17
daMaestroSkuz`, .quakeX or something05:17
Skuz`and its better05:17
longwaveajhtiredwolf: apt-get is like yum but better ;)05:17
daMaestroin your home dir05:17
Skuz`kohr, fat05:17
Skuz`maybe fat32, not sure though05:17
ajhtiredwolfalright, well when i first tried to isntall ubuntu05:17
dasGewitte1Skuz: Yes, fat3205:17
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Ubuntu is linux.. anything that runs on Linux - will run on Ubuntu05:17
ajhtiredwolfit said there was a problem with x, and i wasnt able to05:17
bearlongwave: so if I have more then 1 network I connect to all I need to do is  iface eth0 inet static05:17
bear    address
bear    network
bear    netmask
bear    broadcast
bear    wireless-essid Home05:17
dasGewitte1Skuz: External Hard drives use fat3205:17
bear    wireless-key  then reapeat for each network05:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:18
sethkit is true that the various distros often break the kernel, but then you install the real kernel from kernel.org and it's fixed05:18
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, You may have been lacking a lib05:18
ladydoor!paste > bear05:18
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kohrskuz, ok thanks, bye05:18
longwavebear: i think you put wireless-key1 then wireless-key2 though i am not entirely sure05:18
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yggdrasildoes anyone here know of a web based thing like nukephp or xoops that is like a video gallery ?05:18
longwavebear: it may only work up to 4 keys at once, but you can always leave the other keys in that file but commented out - at least you won't have to retype them05:18
ajhtiredwolfalright well im gonna go ahead and install ubuntu, il get on here with my laptop. Thanks Justin_05:18
ladydoorkohr: FAT, and there are windowz drivers for ext2/305:19
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rugbythomasdoes anyone know why synaptic would say gcc is installed but terminal does not know the command gcc05:19
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Nice - if you run into problems.. come back and ask away.. thats what everyone else does :))05:19
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ajhtiredwolfhah thank you very much05:19
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bearbut the ssid changes05:19
Skuz`seta snddevice "/dev/dsp"05:19
Skuz`is that an issue05:19
ladydoorrugbythomas: what're you trying to do with it?05:20
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nich0sI am nich0s. Hear me roar.05:20
ladydoorrugbythomas: ok...05:20
ladydoorrugbythomas: do "which gcc"05:20
rugbythomasmy make file works great at school but not home05:20
Justin_rugbythomas, You need to install "build essentials" in 6.06 dapper.05:20
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Justin_Or else you will see GCC but it will not actually work05:20
Justin_sudo apt-get build-essentials and you should be fine05:21
longwave"sudo apt-get install build-essential" even :)05:21
Justin_longwave, yeah ;D05:21
zerojakelhow install gcc 4.1?05:21
Justin_zerojakel, upgrade gcc :D05:21
Justin_If you want to do it the easy way05:21
Justin_I don't know if the reps have GCC 4.1 yet though05:22
longwavezerojakel: gcc-4.1 is only in edgy so far05:22
longwaveit probably won't be backported to dapper05:22
rugbythomasE: Invalid operation build-essentials05:22
sethkJustin_, if you see gcc, it will work, but you mean that he needs other supporting programs05:22
nich0srugbythomas, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"05:22
bearlongwave: but how does it know which key goes wth which ssid05:23
Justin_sethk, Yeah well I had the same problem - said that GCC was installed, but did not actually work - sudo apt-get build-essential fixed that05:23
longwavebear: when there are four keys i think it just uses any one of the four05:23
sethkJustin_, if you compile something with gcc, yourself, you'll see that gcc works perfectly.  You needed more than gcc for whatever you were trying to do.05:23
longwavebear: i imagine there must be some kind of better network manager for people in your situation...05:23
bearlongwave: no matter what the ssid is?  crazy05:23
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Justin_When is edgy to be officially released again?05:23
dasGewitte1October 25 or so05:24
longwavebear: no, you can only specify one ssid as far as i can see05:24
dasGewitte1you can find official release dates on Ubuntu's website05:24
longwavebear: if you list more than one i think it will only use the last one you list05:24
Justin_I see... I hope it's good because dapper is perfection.. well minus not having GCC by default..05:24
bearlongwave: and now we're back to my original question does anyone know of a better network manager05:24
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zerojakelyes 25 october05:24
rugbythomasmy school has 4,1 up and running05:25
rossHey everyone....I was wondering if anyone could help me configure my laptop with ubuntu wirelessly05:25
JoseStefanknot 2 should be out Thurs05:25
bearross: what where are you at05:25
joltHopes the live install isnt broken on knot 205:26
rugbythomasdoes anyone know what it takes to get Konsole to run in KDevelop05:26
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ladydoorJustin_: ubuntu's always been that way, so far as i know...i seem to remember having to install build-essential before05:26
AbstIf I installed KDE can I fully uninstall it and go back to Gnome?05:26
Justin_ladydoor, 5 had it on mine05:26
Justin_abst, sure05:26
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ladydoorAbst: install ubuntu-desktop05:27
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ladydoorAbst: then05:27
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Justin_Abst, Why would you not be able to?05:27
ladydoorAbst: look at the dependencies for kubuntu-desktop05:27
vanderleyI cant configure my keyboard, how can I do it: my pc is a Laptop Compac Presario05:27
AbstJustin_: I'm a newbie and I don't like reformatting so I just make sure..05:27
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sethkAbst, sure, but why bother to uninstall it.  if you don't want to run it, then don't run it05:27
ladydoorAbst: and uninstall any of them whose removal doesn't conflict with having ubuntu-desktop05:27
ajhtiredwolfAlright, well I selected to install ubuntu in graphical safe mode... and after it got past the little loading bar loading drivers and or what not, the screen just went blank05:27
Justin_But KDE is bad.. - fair warning05:27
Justin_I stick with my XFCE :D05:27
rossBEAR: what do you mean? what and where?05:28
ladydoorJustin_: let's not start a window-manager war05:28
Justin_Abst, yes :)05:28
vanderleyhow can I configre my keyboad:05:28
ladydoorAbst: it's another desktop environment05:28
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ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop05:28
sethkKDE is _not_ bad.05:28
JoseStefanCLI for teh win!05:28
AbstSee what ladydoor said05:28
zerojakela question somebody has a terminator card TV of kworld05:28
bearross: sorry, you need help with a wireless connection05:28
Justin_ladydoor, No war ?? - it's all about choice, I do not care if people want to run KDE - I am just warning that it is bad ---- unless you love your ram being sucked05:28
rossbear: yeah05:28
bearross: do you have drivers installed05:28
sethkit's entirely a matter of preference.  kde has some significant features that the other desktops don't have.  That's not to say it's better, just that it is different, but it certainly isn't "bad"05:28
Justin_sethk, Sure it's not - creating a software registry is not bad of course not05:29
ajhtiredwolfKDE does look very pretty thogh hah05:29
AbstKDE is more like windows from pictures05:29
rossmy ubunu isnt recognizing my built in ethernet card05:29
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, It is pretty :)05:29
Justin_I simply like to keep my ram for other ubuntu stuff :P05:29
rossbear: idk anything about the drivers for it...im a noob05:29
sethkJustin_, don't voice opinions when you don't understand the issues05:29
digivorecan anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?05:29
Justin_sethk, Who are you? - a KDE developer:?05:29
sethkajhtiredwolf, kde is an excellent piece of work05:29
bearross: what kind of card do have05:29
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: That is very true... but I have 2gb of ram lol so...05:29
sethkJustin_, no, I write kernels and device drivers05:29
Justin_I know about KDE very well thank you very much.05:29
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=== bintut waves to all.. gtg now.. thanks.. :)
Skuz`how do i change my sound to use oss in q3 instead of alsa?05:29
rossbear: idk its built in05:30
sethkJustin_, obviously not, if you say it's "bad", that's just ignorant05:30
Justin_sethk, Whatever stick to KDE - enjoy the registry05:30
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sethkJustin_, I don't use a registry, but you can keep your illusions if you like05:30
ajhtiredwolfalright, so im trying to install ubuntu right? But its not working05:30
rossim in gnome05:30
Justin_lol.. @ illusions05:30
rugbythomasis there anyway to make a custom run cd based on the way I have ubuntu set up right now, so that I could take a cd/dvd to a friends computer and do make work there05:30
bearross: do this open a terminal and type in sudo lshw    this will list all the hardware install on your computer05:30
sethkyou're right, I should have said delusions05:31
zerojakelI need to fit a remote control of a terminator TV05:31
rossok hold on05:31
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bearross: look for your network cards I assume you'll have 205:31
dasGewitte1rugbythomas: it is possible to make an image of your machine, yes.05:31
ajhtiredwolfanyone heh?05:31
sethkajhtiredwolf, what's happening?05:31
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:31
rossbear: ok I have the list05:31
ajhtiredwolfI did ask my question...05:32
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ajhtiredwolfim trying to install ubuntu and it isnt working, when i try and install it in graphical safe mode05:32
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ajhtiredwolfit doesnt work, it just goes blank on the screen05:32
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ladydoorajhtiredwolf: try booting into the livecd instead of to safe mode05:32
rossbear: im not sure how to tell05:32
ladydoorajhtiredwolf: the livecd has an installer on it05:32
sethkajhtiredwolf, or you can try the text mode install from the alternate cd05:32
Jengahey. how do I open ports for faster torrent downloads?05:32
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wikijeffAccording to Synaptic I have OpenOffice Equation editor installed, but I can't add or find it in the application menu, anyone know why??05:32
ajhtiredwolfalright well hold mabe this will give insite05:32
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ajhtiredwolfI just tried to isntall it regularly05:33
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ladydoorwikijeff: try this:  killall gnome-panel05:33
sethkwikijeff, it's more or less a plug in.  you can access it from oowriter05:33
NickGarveycan you move an ext3 partition?05:33
ladydoorwikijeff: which will restart it05:33
bearross: look for the word network05:33
ladydoorwikijeff: nm what i said then05:33
ajhtiredwolfand I get this error message: failed to start the X server ( your graphical interface). It is like that it is not set up correctly woudl you like to view the x server output?05:33
zerojakelajhtiredwolf: that grafica card you have05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
verbosein bash how do i generate number 1 through 99 i thought i could do it with tr, but can't find it05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Did you change your driver?05:33
ladydoorajhtiredwolf: is this booting into the livecd or booting into the safe mode?05:33
AshexACTION sexes Sean05:33
wikijeffsethk: thanks05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
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sethkajhtiredwolf, do the text mode install, it's easier than trying to troubleshoot this during the install process.05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
Sean * Ashex sexes Sean05:34
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ajhtiredwolfJustin_: what do oyu mean? I havent installed yet lol05:34
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AbstCalm down Sean05:34
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: How do I do that?05:34
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JoseStefan!botabuse > Sean05:34
Justin_Sean, Enough with the childish stuff..05:34
AbstHes gone05:34
DBOhes gone05:34
sethkgee, too bad  :)05:35
ladydoorplus, it's not just men here05:35
rossbear: there are a few networks, but the only one with a description is the ethernet controller05:35
sethkladydoor, he couldn't even spell it  :)05:35
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angel12when i activate my wireless, should it be looking for an ip from or my router's ip?05:35
ladydoorsethk: *sigh*05:35
verboseangel12: dhcp sends out a request to
sethkangel12, all 255's is a broadcast05:35
verboseit's the broadcast address05:35
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: ow do I install in text mode?05:35
ladydoorsethk: it's still annoying05:35
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, I believe you need to download the actual text install CD - I think dapper only has LIVE-install by default05:35
verbosebecause it doesn't yet know your router's address05:35
sethkladydoor, oh, I agree05:36
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JoseStefanajhtiredwolf, alternate CD05:36
ladydoorsethk: and it didn't help that he started off with...more offensive words05:36
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179056 <-- same question05:36
angel12well, its not getting an ip from my router. but my other ubuntu box works just fine05:36
sethkladydoor, no argument05:36
AbstWhat is your favourite piece of software?05:36
ladydoorAbst: ratpoison, gnu screen, emacs, & conkeror are tied :-)05:36
JoseStefanAbst, does the bios count05:36
Justin_well be back in a bit - :)05:37
verboseangel12: check the cable, try setting the ip manually and see if you can communicate, make sure the driver is loaded properly for the card, if it's a kernel module or something05:37
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sethkangel12, that's odd, but the initial broadcast isn't the problem05:37
AbstJoseStefan: Afraid not05:37
joltHeh i remember the days when screen was considered multitasking over dialup05:37
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CSWookieScreen is multitasking.05:37
CSWookieScreen is the best window manager ever.05:37
joltNot when you can xterm05:38
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verbosejolt: ?05:38
CSWookieXtrem < screen.05:38
rossIs anyone here know how to configure ubuntu wirelessly?05:38
ajhtiredwolfOk well, if I install the alternate cd in text mode. It may work... but won't X still not work once its install?05:38
verbosehow about screen in xterm?05:38
ladydoorjolt: aha, but can you copy/past in an xterm w/o using the mouse? i think not05:38
JoseStefanajhtiredwolf, good point05:38
sethkajhtiredwolf, probably not05:38
Abstladydoor: There can only be one?05:38
joltscreen wins on the accessability front05:38
angel12verbose, its a wireless, and atme;05:38
CSWookieverbose: Nah.  I never use my linux computer directly.  I putty there from windows.05:38
sethkajhtiredwolf, often you can provide enough assistance during installation that it will run X at the end of the process05:39
sethkajhtiredwolf, what's your video hardware?05:39
JoseStefanCSWookie, what's the latest putty version?05:39
ajhtiredwolfsethk: X800GTO Connect 3d05:39
AbstWhat does ratpoison do05:39
CSWookieJoseStefan: I don't know.05:39
ladydoorAbst: with a capital ONE05:39
verboseCSWookie: no x11 forwarding?05:39
FlannelAbst: ratpoison is a WM, that doesn't require a mouse05:39
AbstI'll be deleting that then05:40
CSWookieOnly when I need to use gnucash.05:40
ajhtiredwolfsethk: right now im at ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ it brought me there after the x server error came up and i looked at the error log05:40
sethkajhtiredwolf, If it can work with fedora, it can work with ubuntu.  it's exactly the same software05:40
ladydoorAbst: nongnu.org/ratpoison05:40
ajhtiredwolfsethk: but... its not lol05:40
CSWookieratpoison is the WM I have on my linux box.05:40
sethkajhtiredwolf, I thought you had been using fedora05:40
verbosekeyboard warrior05:40
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ajhtiredwolfsethk: yes... i dont doubt that it CAN work.. but I dont know HOW to make it work. Yes I was using fedora, and it was working.05:41
sethkajhtiredwolf, if you've completed the install, try  (as root) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:41
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ajhtiredwolfsethk: nahh, i havent even begun the install05:41
sethkajhtiredwolf, you can copy the xorg.conf file from fedora to ubuntu, if you still have it.05:41
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ajhtiredwolfsethk: it should be on the hard disk yes05:41
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sethkajhtiredwolf, yes, in /etc/X1105:41
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nownottok heres the situation i have xp pro on one partition and ubuntu on the same hd but different partition, i have vmware installed on ubuntu and i want to boot windows, but i get a blue screen of death right after the windows splash screen05:42
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ajhtiredwolfsethk: but that xorg.conf file is incorrect and was giving me problems.. which is a big reason im trying to use ubuntu in the first place05:42
CSWookieI'd probably put linux on my laptop, but I'm a web developer.  I have to be able to see what the thing looks like in IE.05:42
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wsgOK, wow, just tried Ubuntu 6.06 DVD release, sucks how to discover the new Gnome ability's05:42
Abstnownott: #windows05:42
MukundaI just installed some updates today, and it has killed compiz, is this a known issue? Metacity still works fine.05:42
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burritoortegaCSWookie: you can install internet explorer on linux via wine05:42
sethkajhtiredwolf, unlikely that switching to ubuntu will solve your problem05:42
wikijeffWhat's the best way to create math related document, containing things like matrices and vectors, on ubuntu??05:42
sethkajhtiredwolf, use the xorg.conf file as documentation, then05:42
burritoortegaCSWookie: i have it, it was easy with winetools05:42
sethkajhtiredwolf, and use the program I gave you a few minutes ago to configure X05:42
ladydoorCSWookie: aren't there utils for that? also, you could always put a thing on your page being like "look weird? install a non-sucky, free browser, like firefox!"05:43
FlannelCSWookie: look into 'ies4lin' it's IE5 5.5 and 6, for leeenux05:43
ergodoes anyone know how to configure the system to input japanese and chinese characters?05:43
nownottso that is my only option is to depend on #windows?05:43
ajhtiredwolfsethk: program? which program?05:43
AbstWell its a windows problem05:43
wsgAnyone got screenshots of the new gnome in action ?05:43
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AbstNot a linux one05:43
CSWookieHmm.  Now ubunt sounds more atractive.  You're saying that it made installing IE easy?05:43
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sethkdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:43
sethkajhtiredwolf,   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:43
sethkajhtiredwolf, obviously after you've done a text mode install05:43
StoneNotenownott, did you create a windows virtual appliance in vmware that is getting a blue screen OR are you pointing vmware to your windows partition and getting the blue screen?05:43
FlannelCSWookie: yeah, look into it.  They come with a preconfigured wine script, or something like that.  Using the evolt standalones, as far as I'm aware05:43
sethkajhtiredwolf, I've never tried it with the live cd,05:43
nownottwell have you heard of anyone using vmware to boot a windows partition that already has data on it, not a clean install05:43
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StoneNotenownott, no05:44
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ajhtiredwolfthis seems strange... x not working enough for it to install05:44
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sethkajhtiredwolf, yes, it's a bit unusual05:44
sethkajhtiredwolf, but that's why there is a text mode install (as there is in fedora)05:44
wsgAnyone got URL'sto the new gnome "screenshots" ?05:44
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CSWookieDebian is loading...05:45
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ladydoorwsg: http://www.gnome.org/05:45
JoseStefanedgy should have both installers on one disc05:45
StoneNotenownott, after you setup vmware under ubuntu, you can load virtual machines you download off the vmware site or other places or create your own.  but an os on another parition is NOT a vmware virtual machine05:45
FlannelJoseStefan: theyre completely incompatable05:45
burritoortegai have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do?05:45
ajhtiredwolfah screw it... ive been at this for months now. I guess it just must be my graphics card, it simply won work with linux05:46
JoseStefanFlannel: i know, but there must be a way05:46
FlannelJoseStefan: double the size of the CD ;)05:46
ladydoorburritoortega: you need to do sudo umount /path/to/mount/point05:46
wsgdont see screenshots there ?05:46
ladydoorburritoortega: and then try gksudo gparted05:46
burritoortegai did unmount it05:46
JoseStefanFlannel: in that case, the DVD does that, i think05:46
sethkajhtiredwolf, you aren't going to fix it by changing distributions, unless one might have a newer X release than another05:46
burritoortegabut then it doesn't "see" it05:46
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nownottStoneNote: is there another program that might let me do this05:46
sethkajhtiredwolf, generally fedora is quite good with X configuration.05:47
ladydoorburritoortega: you may have to point it to /dev/sda05:47
AbstWSG: (05:45:59) bruenig: http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=screenshots/gnome214/LatestGnome214Beta.jpg05:47
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burritoortegaladydoor: how do i do that exactly?05:47
ladydooror do mkfs /dev/sda05:47
bruenigthat might not be the latest but that is what it was named. Perhaps at the time it was named it was the latest05:47
ajhtiredwolfsethk: I was going to use ubuntu because no one in fedora will help you, they are just a bunch of punks over there. But im done, just done. Its not going to work05:47
ladydoorburritoortega: i don't know. look for an option to add an fs05:47
burritoortegaladydoor: i already did mkfs -t msdos /dev/sda05:47
StoneNotenownott, not that I know of.  there might be a forum at vmware you can ask that question at.05:47
sethkajhtiredwolf, it may, I've fixed a lot of bizarre X problems over the years.05:47
ladydoorburritoortega: while it was unmounted?05:47
burritoorteganope, mounted05:47
wesleydoes network-manager work with ndiswrapper?05:48
wsgAbst sweet, nice mac style look, there more on that area ?05:48
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sethkajhtiredwolf, if the issue is configuration and you can get more help for one than another, that's a rational reason to try another distro05:48
burritoortegaladydoor: is it the same if i unmount it via gui?05:48
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Abstwsg: Ask bruenig, I just pasted it05:48
sethkajhtiredwolf, but buying another graphics card is a lot less stressful05:48
ladydoorwesley: you can't configure ndiswrapper from it, but you can bring up the connection that ndiswrapper presents05:48
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ajhtiredwolfsethk: its just ive been at this for a very ... very long time. And I dont know enough about it to fix it. And I dont have the money for another card so, im just going to stick with windows I guess, much as I hate it.05:48
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wesleyladydoor: thanks.  I can't get it working since I updated from 51005:48
bruenigwsg, that has a lot of modifications done to it. If you want the base look of it, might want to try to find something else05:48
ladydoorburritoortega: i don't know, i don't usually use gui tools if i can avoid it05:49
brueniggoogle tends to do well with me05:49
nigelI need someone here who had knowledge of wireless networking...05:49
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burritoortegakq@dapper:~$ mkfs -t msdos /dev/sda05:49
burritoortegamkfs.msdos 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)05:49
burritoortegamkfs.msdos: unable to open /dev/sda05:49
ladydoorAbst: eh?05:49
Hexidigitalnigel::  what's the problem?05:49
elirandon't know05:49
burritoortegaladydoor: that's what i did05:49
sethkajhtiredwolf, best we can do here is try to help you configure it, and it appears the text mode install is your best option at this point.  but I can understand if you don't want to deal with it.05:49
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burritoortegaladydoor: after umounting it05:49
nigelhex: When I start to tax my internet connection , which is over the wireless , the connection goes down..05:49
ladydoorwesley: hmmm...ndiswrapper -l say "driver present, hardware present" or whatever?05:50
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nigelhex : And I'll have to disconnect the adapter , and reconnect , as the fastest way to get it back up..05:50
wsgbruenig yea, I know, I have OSX running on a INTEL PC, be nice to get Linux with the look, linux provides better "Support" but OSX is nice to try .05:50
Hexidigitalnigel::  anything particular throwing it off?05:50
ladydoorburritoortega: is it maybe /dev/sda1? that's what it is on mine (but i don't know)05:50
ajhtiredwolfsethk: i'll give the text mode a shot, but im guessing x isnt going to work once its installed, and I have NO idea how to configure it, and i haven't been able to get any good help thus far, but i'll work on it tomorrow, for now sleep05:50
ajhtiredwolfthanks anyway05:50
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nigelhex: Downloads the majority of the time , but earlier uploads threw it off too...05:50
AbstWhere is the default web dir for apache?05:50
wesleyladydoor: i can bring it up with iwconfig/ifup05:50
nigelhex : extremely annoying..05:50
ergodoes anyone know how to configure  DAPPER to input japanese and chinese characters?05:50
Hexidigitalnigel::  what type of connection? cable/dsl?05:51
nigel256 down , 128 up05:51
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org05:51
ladydoorwesley: hmmm...did you do ndiswrapper -m?05:51
ladydoorwesley: (sudo)05:51
wesleyladydoor: i remove the entries from /etc/network/interfaces and restart dbus and it detects it but won't go05:51
bruenigwsg, check out dreamlinux. Looks nearly identical http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-screen.html05:51
ladydoorwesley: oh. huh05:51
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Brokensteinhi what do i need for quicktime to work in firefox?05:52
nigelhex : any idea of what the problem may be ?05:52
wesleyladydoor: does it use dhcdbd?  I've got some errors in my logs05:52
StoneNoteergo, check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_type_extended_characters05:52
Hexidigitalnigel::  i dunno man.. that's out of my "turf".... i am better with hardware wireless config05:52
nigelhex : hmm..05:52
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ladydoorwesley: sorry...i've got nothing05:52
Hexidigitalnigel::  sorry05:52
nigelhex : Thanks for the effort though05:52
burritoortegaladydoor: mkfs.msdos: unable to open /dev/sda105:52
nigelhex : ;)05:52
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wesleyladydoor: ok thx anyway05:52
ladydoorburritoortega: are you sudoing? sorry, i'm kind of making this up as i go along05:52
sethknigel, when you say goes down, do you mean that literally?  when you do ifconfig, it doesn't show the interface?05:52
ladydoorwesley: :-/05:52
burritoortegaladydoor: i tried with and without sudo05:53
nigelYes , doesn't show any connection..05:53
angel12anyone have an atmel card in dapper?05:53
ladydoorburritoortega: oh...hm. Have you tried the livecd?05:53
wsgbruenig "sweet" like to install Ubuntu with that look.05:53
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ladydoorburritoortega: you can get it off their site05:53
ergook thanks a lot ..going to check it out now05:53
burritoortegaladydoor: nope, but that shouldn't change anything, should it?05:53
nigelhex : you know of any third party programs that may be able to help me sustain a connection ?05:53
ladydoorburritoortega: other than that i haven't the foggiest...sorry05:53
burritoortegaladydoor: thanks anyway05:53
ladydoorburritoortega: i don't know. probably not05:53
ladydoorburritoortega: sorry :-/05:54
burritoortegai have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do?05:54
bruenigwsg, if you do like dreamlinux I would caution you in using it as a lot of the documentation is in portugeese05:54
Hexidigitalnigel::  are you using gnome?05:54
nigelhex : yep05:54
bruenigwsg, oh yeah, that would take quite a bit of work05:54
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Hexidigitalnigel::  press tab after typing hex, so i can see a highlighted message, please :)05:54
dcstimm_hey guys, How do I burn the x86 and ppc isos to one disk so I dont have to carry around two?05:54
nigeloh , didn't know that lol , thanks05:54
jbroomedcstimm_: they won't fit05:55
nigelhex : works ?05:55
bruenigdcstimm_, I assume you have a dvd?05:55
Hexidigitalnigel::  if you dont mind downloading some KDE libraries, you can sudo apt-get install wireless-assistant05:55
dcstimm_jbroome, I modified them so they are 200mb05:55
nigelI have that..05:55
nigelI have kde and xfce installed also..05:55
wsgbruening gdesklette's ? "osx" theme ? wonder if there would be a way to import that "toolbar" into ubuntu ?05:55
Hexidigital!tab > nigel05:55
burritoortegai have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do ?05:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:55
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DammitCoetzeei fix all my file system errors with a hammer05:55
Flannelburritoortega: unmount it first05:55
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bruenigwsg, that is xfce, ubuntu uses gnome, you could use gdesklets if you want for the dock but it won't look as polished as that05:55
Flannelburritoortega: that's probably why gparted is having issues too05:56
burritoortegaFlannel: when i unmount it, it doesn't "see it"05:56
nigelHexidigital: oh , i see..05:56
nigelIs that what your looking for ?05:56
Hexidigitalnigel::  wireless-assistant may be able to keep your connection up... or it may be interfering with another wireless program05:56
wsgbruenig this looks sweet ?  http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=screenshots/gnome214/CompizCubeEffect.png05:56
yggdrasildoes anyone here know of a web based thing like nukephp or xoops that is like a video gallery ?05:56
bruenigwsg, xgl and compiz, that is a headache05:57
nigelHexidigital: well , I can use it to reconnect , but on the other hand , it runs slowly and takes a while to put settings into place..05:57
dcstimm_bruenig, any idea?05:57
yggdrasilwhere i can just upload my video files .. kind of like a photo gallery05:57
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Hexidigitalnigel::  did you edit your /etc/network/interfaces file at all?05:57
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nigelHexidigital: No.05:57
bruenigdcstimm_, I couldn't think of a way to do it without modifying each of them so that you are given some sort of prompt allowing you to choose between them which I certainly don't know how you would do that05:57
Hexidigital!paste > nigel05:57
Hexidigitalnigel::  pastebin your /etc/network/interface file for me05:57
burritoortegaFlannel: mkfs.msdos: unable to open /dev/sda05:57
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burritoortegaFlannel: that's after unmounting it05:58
Hexidigitalnigel::  post the link when you are done05:58
dcstimm_bruenig, well thats not needed, I just need two sessions05:58
nigelHexidigital: ok05:58
wsgbrueniig that "3D" effect is supposed to be a part of the New Gnome ?05:58
Lard-O-LadHow can i use the DOM inspector for firefox with ubuntu?05:58
dcstimm_bruenig, pcs boot of the last session, and on mac it boots off hfs/iso hybrid only, so it will detect it05:58
nigelHexidigital: Can't we have a private chatroom ?05:58
Hexidigitalnigel::  sure, pm me05:58
dcstimm_bruenig, so if I can figure out multisession burning, I think it would work05:59
bruenigoh because the cd isn't writable after it I got you05:59
burritoortegai have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do?05:59
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ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience05:59
wsgHow do you configure that "3D" look in gnome ?06:00
bruenigwsg, that is compiz, that is a seperate thing from gnome altogether perhaps it will be integrated into the next gnome, kind of doubt it06:00
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:00
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:00
Hexidigitalnigel::  i sent you a PM06:00
jman8888Is there some kind of Cd Label maker for Ubuntu?06:00
bruenigwsg, use that link but be really careful, you could mess a lot up06:00
nigelHexidigital: Yeah , but I need to register..06:00
Hexidigital!register > nigel06:01
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bruenigassuming of course if you are really good06:01
nigelHexidigital: thanks06:01
jman8888bruenig, But i already have a Cd label thing with Areas for stuff to go to. Labelmaker labels.06:02
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wsgbruenig "Linux Pro Magazine" shows it as part of Gnome and part of the Dapper Release, Includes the Dapper Drake ubuntu on a DVD for you... So I got to disagree, they say it's in Gnome now06:02
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bruenigwsg, ok well then why aren't you doing it06:02
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bruenigsince it is in there do it06:02
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burritoortegawho asked about labels?06:03
bruenigdo the compiz cube that is integrated into gnome06:03
jman8888burritoortega, Me...06:03
dcstimm_Anyone know how ubuntu sees the volume names of different drives that are plugged in?  For example I have a firewire hfsplus formatted harddrive and it knows the name of it, but I cant find any command line tools that tell me the same06:03
burritoortegajman8888: http://glabels.sourceforge.net/06:03
wsgbruening, dont see a "Tool" package... config manager ?06:03
burritoortegajman8888: http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm06:03
burritoortegajman8888: http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/downloads/labels/06:03
Brokensteincan anybody help me get quiktime working in firefox? i uninstalled all vlc and got mozilla-mplayer but still no go06:04
bruenigwsg, perhaps because it doesn't exist by default, you need to add things but you already are certain it is integrated which since it is, all of those people who wrote that guide must be retarded, I mean you wouldn't write a guide to do something that already exists by default06:04
burritoortegajman8888: i got them from this article mostly http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/04/165123406:04
ladydoordcstimm_: it uses the gnome-volume-manager. and you might try "less /etc/fstab" for a start :-)06:04
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wsgwhats "Gnome version in Dapper " ?06:05
dcstimm_ladydoor, ok, but if I am not running gnome will the volume manager work in the command line?06:05
ladydoorwsg: you can see it in synaptic06:05
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ladydoordcstimm_: try less /etc/fstab for a start06:05
burritoortegajman8888: did you find them useful?06:05
wsgladydoor have not installed "dapper yet"06:05
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ladydoordcstimm_: another option for things you plug in could be dmsg | tail06:05
dcstimm_ladydoor, i know how fstab work, but when I am not in the gui and I mount a volume I cant see the name of it06:05
bruenig2.12 something or other06:05
ladydoordcstimm_: after you plug them in06:05
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jman8888burritoortega, Yes, But im not sure if they will work with my labels.06:06
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MegaqwertyHow do I add folders and programs to those folders under applications?06:06
dcstimm_ladydoor, that still doesnt show me the volume name, it shows me sda or what device name it has06:06
jman8888About to try06:06
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_priestMegaqwerty: apt-get install alacarte06:06
bruenigI suppose you are advocating compiling your own gnome?06:06
wasedanow everything becomes "Read-only file system" with normal user, how can i do?06:06
ladydoordcstimm_: ah. well, i'im not sure what you're talking about then. sorry06:06
wsgLinux pro Magazine "page 49" article on Gnome 2.16 and 2.14" says "3D" in in the release"06:06
burritoortegajman8888: well they seem to be the best in label-making for linux, if you can't use them you're pretty much screwed06:06
dcstimm_ladydoor, so for example if I have a drive called "Bob's Backup Drive"  How do I find that info out?06:06
Amaranth_priest: All Ubuntu systems who have alacarte available have it installed by default.06:06
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_priestAmaranth: ah06:07
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wsgwhats current version of Gnome in Dapper06:07
ladydoordcstimm_: yeah...sorry. i really don't know :-(06:07
dcstimm_ladydoor, plugg that drive into macosx it mounts it as Bob's Backup Drive, and the same with ubuntu, but if I mount that drive manually I cant find that information06:07
ladydoorwsg: look at the gnome package in synaptic. as i said, it'll tell you.06:07
_priestAmaranth: never really messed with gnome, use fvwm mostly ;)06:07
ladydoordcstimm_: right, and i don't know where to find it. i'm sorry06:07
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CSWookieAh.  IRC in a civilized way.06:07
angel12well i guess atmel is broken in dapper. maybe i will come back with edgy06:07
sethk_priest, you can use fvwm with ubuntu if you wish.  I'm sure you don't wish ...06:08
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CSWookieLater folks.  Your livecd was quite helpful.06:08
AbstWhistle while you work, dooot de do do doo06:08
wsgladydoor have not installed "ubuntu" on this system yet, that mae doing what you ask kind of hard... so I asked !06:08
_priestsethk: yea i use fvwm-crystal with ubuntu06:08
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ladydoorwsg: oh! lol. just a second06:08
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wsgladydoor it's version 2.1406:08
realcoolguyany people using blender having issues importing .3ds files (I get a python script error) ?06:08
ladydoorwsg: ah06:08
_priestsethk: do you know where the locale gets set on debian systems06:09
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wsgat least according to the article i have06:09
ladydoorwsg: sweet.06:09
_priestsethk: i added a .desktop to my gdm session but its showing up as 'foo'06:09
_priesttried setting Name[en] =fvwm-crystal but no go06:09
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sethk_priest, check /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf, for starters06:09
sethk_priest, I'm not certain about locale, I'd have to look it up06:10
wsgladydoor beats Downloading, and shipit, got the "DVD" of Dapper, both a live and a Install DVD release...06:10
ladydoorwsg: errr...the livecd *is* the install cd06:10
wasedanmnguyet@ubuntu:~$ sudo su -06:10
wasedasudo: Can't open /var/run/sudo/nmnguyet/0: Read-only file system06:10
wasedapostdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system06:10
wasedaroot@ubuntu:~ # postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system06:10
wasedapostdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system06:10
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wasedapostdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system06:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:10
_priestsethk: looks like its read from /etc/gdm/locale.conf06:10
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sethk_priest, looks promising, yes06:11
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_priestsethk: ill set that and see06:11
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_priestperhaps just Name[en]  isn't being read must be Name[en_US] 06:11
sethk_priest, possible06:11
elhaxxorzcan someone help me get rid of this boot message?06:11
_priestcool thx06:11
wsgladydoor yea, like that new feature, use to get a live CD and a Install CD seperate, now "Dapper" includes all in one ... thats sweet. . .06:11
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jasmuzDoes anyone know about LM-SENSORS? query me if so..06:12
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elhaxxorzX: cannot stat /tmp/.X11-unix (Not a directory), aborting06:12
jman8888Can open office edit pdf's?06:12
ladydoorwsg: oh! haha. well, i never used a livecd before dapper06:12
ladydoorjman8888: it can save to a pdf06:12
jman8888ladydoor, Yes.06:12
ladydoorjman8888: there should be a tool to convert pdfs to text06:12
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ladydoorjman8888: (pdftotext--you can get it by installing xpdf)06:13
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wsgladydoor, oh. :-) np .... this makes my third release of UBUNTU to use ....06:13
holycowthunar is  a sweet file manager06:13
sethkjman8888, I don't think you can go backwards, and modify an existing pdf06:13
ladydoorwsg: sweet06:13
ladydoorwsg: i always just installed and *then* checked it out. lol06:13
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jman8888sethk, :( My label's template is in a pdf. How can i work with that.06:14
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:14
sethkjman8888, I don't know of a way06:14
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holycowyow, so fast06:14
ladydoorjman8888: does it have images or just text? if it's text, you can use pdftotext06:14
wsgladydoor been a "linux" user since Redhat 5.2 ... and then tried about ever Distro I could, then found Ubuntu and have stuck with it off and on for a long time now it seems ..06:14
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jman8888Image based.06:15
NetslayerI'm running dapper + kde and when i goto add more desktops, set it to 4 or anything, save. it won't apply it and won't show that i set 4 when i go back..any ideas?06:15
jman8888Its for making your labels to print06:15
Abstwsg: why do you put stuff in quotes?06:15
Netslayerit's not keeping my desktop number settings06:15
ladydoorwsg: sweet. i kind of accidentally got started when i accidentally deleted my windoze partition with hoary06:15
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wsgAbst habbit06:15
ladydoorjman8888: can the gimp do pdfs?06:15
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jman8888ladydoor, Have no clue.06:15
HYBHey guys06:15
jman8888!gimp pdf06:16
ubotugimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2712 kB, installed size 7648 kB06:16
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:16
harryis there a theme just look like windows for ubuntu???06:16
wsgladydoor I still stick with windows for my gamming, but slowly linux is getting the support for me needs.06:16
AbstKDE looks a bit like windows06:16
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ladydoorwsg: :-)06:16
HYBGaim irc client... (cringe)06:16
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wsgHYB I agree gaim. Xchat a least would have been nice06:17
ladydoorHYB: try irssi :-)06:17
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HYBladydoor, i have irssi06:17
HYBand i'm on it06:17
ladydoorHYB: oh06:17
NoNickim on a nintendo ds06:17
wubrgamerwhich user owns the apache daemon by default ?06:17
HYBit's just on a different server06:17
wubrgamerwhich user owns the apache daemon by default ?06:17
harryAbst: i noticed that quite a bit. but to look like windows XP. is there a theme like that for ubuntu?06:17
wubrgamersorry didn't mean 2 spam06:17
InvisiblePinkUniwireless is driving me nuts :o06:17
HYBharry, wouldn't that defeat the purpose?06:18
Abstharry: I doubt it, alot of users here dislike WinXO06:18
HYBi hate windows wih a passion <.<06:18
wsgHard to believe Ubuntu has now Exceeded Debian in irc users06:18
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yggdrasildoes anyone here know of a web based thing like nukephp or xoops or a photo gallery but more like  a video gallery ?06:18
InvisiblePinkUniafter following this wireless howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDevice%2FAcx111 my card which was recognized previously was not recognized anymore.... :o06:18
AbstThats not linux related06:19
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:19
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HYBHey, if any of you have installed XGL, I was wondering if yall would know how to utilize the zoom function, i can't figure it out =/06:19
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jman8888How come in kde when i move a program to another desktop i still see it in my bar.06:19
wsgan I dont get Gentoo's Following, thats a little to "Hard Core" linux for my taste :)06:19
MegaqwertyWhat is the best free anti-virus program for Linux?06:19
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.06:19
AbstMegaqwerty: You don't need one06:19
wsgMegaqwerty AVG06:19
wasedanmnguyet@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /06:19
wasedaok just that06:19
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ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2106:19
tainted-anyone here do ubuntu dev06:19
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wubrgamerwhich user owns the apache daemon by default ? on ubuntu ?06:20
tainted-i have a bug that i'm going to spend about 5 seconds sharing06:20
AbstLadydoor has the whole bot db memorized.06:20
MegaqwertyI just want to be safe :)06:20
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ladydoortainted-: i think there's a #ubuntu-dev channel06:20
HYBanyone here that's installed XGL know how to zoom?06:20
AbstMegaqwerty: You already are06:20
ladydoorAbst: actually, i just kind of make things up and they often work :-)06:20
Abstladydoor: haha06:20
bhrobinsonmy sound has quit responding... is there a way to get ALSA to redetect the sound card without rebooting?06:20
Megaqwertyso then what is the point of AV software for linux?06:20
AbstTo get money for companies06:20
ladydoorAbst: that's basically how i do most things...guess, ask questions, and tinker until i like it06:21
Megaqwertyah, thank you for that.06:21
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AbstThats basically it06:21
AbstAnd sending files to windows users06:21
dcstimm_Hey guys, where can I find a changelog for 6.06.1 and 6.06 for ppc desktop?06:21
Netslayerany ideas why my kubuntu dapper install  wont let me save desktop configurations (ie i want more desktops and if i drag past 1 it wont save)06:21
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ladydoorNetslayer: #kubuntu willl probably provide better answers :-)06:21
bhrobinsonmy sound has quit responding... is there a way to get ALSA to redetect the sound card without rebooting?06:22
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ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:22
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AbstI am using Gaim06:22
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ladydoorAbst: ok06:23
dcstimm_Hey guys, where can I find a changelog for 6.06.1 and 6.06 for ppc desktop?06:23
dcstimm_what is the difference between 6.06.1 and 6.06?06:23
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:23
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mkquist_bhrobinson-http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 might be a good place to start06:24
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ladydoordcstimm_: if you've installed 6.06 and done your updates, you *have* 6.06.106:24
bhrobinsonmkquist_, thanks... let me look06:24
ladydoordcstimm_: (i think)06:24
wikijeffWhy am I getting a "dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened." error when I try to compile LaTeX programs with Texmaker??06:24
dcstimm_ladydoor, no im interested in the livecd06:24
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ladydoordcstimm_: ohhhh06:24
Slayer20003can anyone help a noob? hehe06:24
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:24
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:24
wsgWhats next release going to be named ? anyone know ?06:24
tritiumwsg: edgy eft06:24
AbstI refuse to be beaten06:24
ladydoorwsg: edgy eft06:24
InvisiblePinkUniubotu... how old are you?06:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about how old are you? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:24
dcstimm_ladydoor, 6.06 has alot of problems on ppc machines, I want to know if anything was fixed in 6.06.106:25
mkquist_lol, being coy06:25
NickGarveyInvisiblePinkUni: its a bot06:25
Abstubotu... youself06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about youself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
ladydoordcstimm_: aha.06:25
NickGarveyhow can I resize an ext3 partition? I am not getting the option in qtparted06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 6.06.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:25
AbstNickGarvey: I think you have to do it out of the partition06:25
ladydoordcstimm_: you might try googling it.....06:25
AbstNickGarvey: Can't resize it while its in use.06:25
NickGarveyAbst: its not mounted06:25
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AbstNickGarvey: Dunno then06:25
dcstimm_ladydoor, have06:25
Slayer20003just threw ubuntu on an old rig, and this is my first deal with Linux......I'm trying to run Folding@Home on this rig, and the dl from their site for linux was an EXE file....how do i run this in ubuntu?06:25
ladydoordcstimm_: ah. :-(06:25
AbstNickGarvey:  I've resized ext306:26
Abstubotu... ext306:26
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org06:26
wsgSome guru needs to get QEMU to run "UBUNTU" inside windows ... lol06:26
ladydoorwsg: why not just install ubuntu? lol06:26
jpjacobsNickGarvey, i heard it's just about deleting the partition with fdisk, and then recreating a larger one on the same space, your data should then be there (but don't blame me if it doesn't work, never tried it myself)06:26
sethkjpjacobs, no, no, no, that will NOT work06:27
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NickGarveyjpjacobs: mm.. I don't think..06:27
AbstI doubt anyone would try that06:27
ladydoorSlayer20003: if it's a windowz .exe, you'll need wine...otherwise, you can do it in a terminal (if it's executable) with ./filename.exe06:27
sethkAbst, somebody might _try_ it, but nobody will _succeed_  :)06:27
cliffdcan anyone explain to me the process of patching the kernel for ubuntu? I only know the ins and outs from a gentoo or fedora aspect. thanks.06:27
sethkcliffd, the kernel is the kernel, really06:27
bhrobinsonmkquist_,  my sound was working earlier, I would just prefer not to reboot. Is there a way to get alsa to redetect without reboot?06:28
AbstA certain bot could explain something here06:28
sethkcliffd, other than the path where the source is installed, all distros are the same06:28
cliffdsethk: do I need to re package my patched kernel into an apt-get package?06:28
wsgwell off to read on Ubuntu and get ready to install ... later all ... :)06:28
ladydoorwsg: :-)06:28
tritiumcliffd: no, but you can06:28
Slayer20003ladydoor, i tried that, and their site mentiones using chmod -x then the file name, and THEN running ./filename.exe, but nothing happens06:28
sethkcliffd, no, just install it, but you can package it that way if you have a good reason to do it06:28
cliffdtritium: whats the clean way of doing it? and if I upgrade my kernel I would assume I have to patch it again. right?06:28
sethkSlayer20003, you can't run a windows executable natively in linux.  try it with wine06:28
ladydoorSlayer20003: ok...you might well need wine, because they're just trying to pawn off w windowz binary on you.06:28
mkquist_bhrobinson-lemme look a mo06:29
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:29
cliffddoes ubuntu update the kernel or does it stay the same like debian?06:29
tritiumcliffd: the debian/ubuntu way is in fact to use kernel-package to build your own .deb06:29
AbstSlayer20003: sudo apt-get install wine06:29
sethkcliffd, you would use the "make oldconfig" capability of the kernel to migrate to newer versions06:29
holycowcliffd, both update kernels, watcha talkin about?06:29
sethkcliffd, this is one case where using the package manager makes your life much more difficult06:29
holycow*scroll* *scroll*06:29
holycowoh, my answer makes sense OUT of context :) ignore me06:30
Abst /clear06:30
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cliffdok, so I can just build it and install it good to go. no really reason I would need to make a .deb and install it that way?06:30
mkquist_bhrobinson-dont know, I'm pretty new too, sorry06:31
holycowcliffd, you would wnat a deb to uninstall it later06:31
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bhrobinsonno prob. Let me restartt the GDM and see06:31
holycowbut for a kernel thatas really almost pointless, one file to delete manually06:31
cliffdholycow: or just let it sit there or be written over when the new one comes out?06:31
cliffdok thanks all06:31
holycowcliffd, or that06:31
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AbstAnyone know what the default web dir is in apache2?06:32
AbstIm using the ubuntu distro.06:32
NickGarveyAbst: /var/www I believe06:32
NickGarveyAbst: just do "cd /; find -name index.html06:32
cliffd/var/www but it depends on what the prefix was set to06:32
feliciano_somebody have installed OpenArena?06:32
AbstHow would I chmod a directory to make it writable by all06:33
Abstchmod dir 777?06:33
cliffdit seems odd to me that apache would pick /var for its default place for content. anyone else?06:33
cliffdchmod dir a+w also06:33
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cliffdbut yeah, the 777 make it so people can not only write but execute commands in that dir and read what they wrote06:33
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sethkAbst, don't use numbers.  use a+w.  777 allows everyone to do everything, which I doubt you want06:35
sethkAbst, but even if you do, it's a bad habit to use numbers where symbols are available06:35
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AbstWill remember06:35
w30Abnix, chmod -R ugoa+w directoryname06:35
IceToxHello guys! Whenever I make a restart on my computer, somehow my network card is dead. I always need to deactivate it through the system->Administration->Networking and than activate it again, and it works ok. Now, isn't there anything to do about this? I'd really like it to work at once :)06:36
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AbstBuy a new network card.06:36
AbstShould fix it06:36
sethkIceTox, check the configuration06:36
IceToxlol Abst06:36
AbstNo really that will fix it06:36
sethkIceTox, I would try to sniff packets during the startup and see what causes the problem06:37
cliffdok, install time06:37
IceToxsethk, that gives me nothing. (at least the graphical configuration.) seems all ok :)06:37
cliffdbbiab, hopefully06:37
IceToxgood luck cliffd :)06:37
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cliffdIceTox: thanks.06:37
AbstSame here06:37
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sethkIceTox, using dhcp, I assume06:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:38
IceToxI should disable dhcp you think sethk ?06:38
sethkIceTox, if you can use a static ip, that will fix the problem06:38
IceToxwell, fair enough, my router is in deed running dhcp06:38
sethkIceTox, well, hack around it, really, not fix it06:38
sethkIceTox, but the effect will likely be the same06:38
IceToxsethk, If I only were as good as you guys :)06:38
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w30IceTox, check your bootlogs and sdd if the interface comes up on boot, maybe eth0 don't start or sumptn'06:39
AbstI have a copy of hoary here06:39
SJr|nxI'm installing Ubuntu for the first time, but I've been using debian for a few years, during the install is there anything I just watch out for like a cavot06:39
SJr|nxor can I just blow thru it06:39
SJr|nxreading every 2nd word06:39
IceToxroot@madelaine:~# ifconfig06:40
IceToxeth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:D3:15:2F:0806:40
IceTox          inet addr:  Bcast:  Mask:
AbstInstall is pretty simple06:40
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sethkSJr|nx, odds are you can blast through it06:40
AbstBut if it says EXPLODE HD do not do that06:40
AbstThat is bad06:40
IceToxI can set this as a static configuration than sethk ?06:40
IceToxoh crap06:40
IceToxneed to reach the bus! worktime :|06:40
sethkIceTox, sure, you can, but you have to tell the router to reserve the address06:40
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AbstSJr|nx: Install is strightforward seriously. Takes about 20 mins max for me, and its not hard.06:40
sethkIceTox, to make sure the router doesn't give that address to another host when it gets a dhcp request06:41
AbstIts only 5 steps06:41
AbstIf I remember06:41
IceToxsethk, well, I'm running with tp cable, so I guess that specific IP is kinda mine anyway :)06:41
holycowthats with the graphical installer via live cd06:41
AbstYes it is.06:41
sethkIceTox, that doesn't follow06:41
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SJr|nxdoes the live cd support suspend 206:41
holycowyou still have the option of using the text based installer that asks you a few more questions ,but after they are asked it doesn't stop half way06:41
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IceToxsethk, how do I find out what my gateway is?06:42
IceToxshould it be listed in ifconfig sethk ?06:42
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sethkIceTox, no.  run route  (with no arguments)   and find the default route06:43
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sethkIceTox, the default route has ip
IceToxah, thanks sethk :)06:43
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ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues06:44
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QQQOmniDhow to install .rpm06:44
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).06:44
bthorntonAnybody know of a good (i.e. user-friendly) TV-viewing application other than Tvtime I can run in Ubuntu/GNOME?  I'm running Xgl and apparently Tvtime doesn't play well with that.06:44
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).06:44
SJr|nxWhats the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?06:45
tritiumbthornton: try zapping or xawtv06:45
AbstDont type it twice06:45
AbstIt'll say it twice now06:45
bthorntontritium: will look; thanks06:45
holycowSJr|nx, nothing, just the default de in kubuntue is kde06:45
sethkSJr|nx, kubuntu installs the kde desktop by default, ubuntu installs gnome06:45
SJr|nxis the install cd a live cd too?06:45
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SJr|nxor is that seperate06:45
AbstXubuntu installs something else06:45
bhrobinsonok, two questions... I am need to reboot, but I have a 1 gig NFS server that I want to auto mount on boot. What file do I need to set that in. And second, I have 4 displays, but cannot get videos to display on one of the 4 screens... any ideas?06:45
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sethkSJr|nx, for the newest release the install cd is also the live cd06:45
sethkSJr|nx, for the previous version they were separate06:46
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holycowSjB, one is live, other two offer installation options including text installer06:46
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QQQOmniD!alien > QQQOmniD06:46
SJr|nxand finally does anyone know if the live cd supports suspend2?06:46
AbstSJr|nx: Once you get onto the live CD desktop, there is a folder named Examples and a Install program06:46
SJr|nxi.e. can you hibernate or suspend your notebook with the live cd06:46
holycowsethk, for the newer they have alternate and server installers that also offer text based besides live cd06:46
hazarathNeed codec for 'FPS1'.06:46
bhrobinsonbthornton, have you looked at MythTV?06:46
AbstExamples is stuff Ubuntu can do06:46
QQQOmniDIt doesn't say why it's dangerous06:46
AbstInstall is the installer06:46
SJr|nxI'd be interested in trying it on my notebook06:46
SJr|nxand seeing if it can do what debian can't :)06:46
sethkholycow, yes, I should have mentioned that also06:46
AbstSJr|nx: It has the option, dunno if it works06:46
SJr|nxor I should say, what I can't06:46
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QQQOmniDSo I cannoy use LimeWire :c06:47
bthorntonbhrobinson: yes, but it's far too complicated a piece of software to setup for my purposes right now06:47
holycowSJr|nx, btw, live cd installer isn't trully trustworthy, for me it has been broken on 50% of all attempts on different boxes06:47
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holycowit depends06:47
AbstYou have to try a few times06:47
AbstBut meh06:47
squeaksi want my X server to start sometimes with my alternative ServerLayout in xorg.conf, i had been doing startx -- -layout Multihead, but I had to hack at the runlevel that gdm runs at, and telinit to a higher runlevel06:47
thyboworked fine for me all the times06:47
holycowor download the alternate iso and use the text installer ... di rules06:47
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AbstUse LiveCD methinks06:47
kohr_how would i give azureus the athurity to write on a fat32 partiton06:47
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:48
sethksqueaks, you can modify the config so that gdm doesn't auto-restart, but I don't think that's any better than the solution you are using06:48
holycowkohr_, the same way you give everything persm on linux ... the user under which it runs has to have permissions to to write to dir06:48
squeakskohr_, mount with -o umask option, probably06:48
thybohow do you make a webcam work when easycam 1 and 2 fail to do it?06:48
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions06:48
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bhrobinsonok, two questions... I am need to reboot, but I have a 1 gig NFS server that I want to auto mount on boot. What file do I need to set that in. And second, I have 4 displays, but cannot get videos to display on one of the 4 screens... any ideas?06:49
Abstthybo: The webcam may be unsupported06:49
kohr_squeaks, mount the partition with that?06:49
thybono i think it is06:49
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:49
hazarathNeed FPS1 codec, please.06:49
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thyboits a spacecam 320 saw it on suported list06:49
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squeakskohr_, man mount and find under FAT the umask option, probably mount -o umask=0222 /dev/* /mnt/* or similar06:49
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sethkbhrobinson, you can add an NFS mount to fstab like any other mount06:50
kohr_squeaks, k thanks, i;ll try that06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fps1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:50
holycowhazarath, no frickin clue, google that06:50
hazarathIt's Fraps encoding.06:50
sethkbhrobinson, for the displays, what video card(s)?  two dual output cards, four separate cards, ???06:50
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AbstYou'll need fraps I guess06:50
AbstI doubt its an open source codec06:50
hazarathWon't install.06:50
dalbericanyone run Quad SLI and ubuntu yet?06:51
AbstWont install on linx?06:51
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hazarathNot with Wine or Cedega06:51
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Hmmmmhi guys, im on dapper, and my Xorg seems to be hogging memory. anything i can do to stop/reduce that?06:51
AbstGot a buddy who has linux?06:51
AbstHmmmm: Uninstall it06:51
CrescendoI get a buzzing sound over my speakers on Dapper Drake whenever my HDD seeks06:51
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CrescendoHow would I fix this issue?06:51
HmmmmAbst: hahaha06:52
bhrobinsonsethk, awesome! you have been fantastic in this transition... as for the video cards, they are 2 dual head. I was trying both as Nvidia 5200, but they did not work together. The drivers were taken over by the AGP, so now I am running an AGP Matrox 450 and a PCI 520006:52
hazarathYa, why?06:52
AbstWhat? thats how i'd fix it06:52
holycowHmmmm, wtf?  there is no such thing as hogging mermory06:52