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user__arg. hi.  can someone tell me the quickest way to change the screensaver settings in default dapper?12:00
pianoboy3333I compiled amarok 1.4.2 and I guess it didn't get put into my bin12:00
nosseok, this is bropably dum, but I'm using irssi and is there any way to see the whole topic? it's longer than my screen is wide12:01
pianoboy3333uhhh...........12:01
StoneNoteuser__, a shotgun12:01
kaotpianoboy3333: coulda gone into /opt or /usr/local/ by default12:01
pianoboy3333lamego: where can I find the binary that I can link to?12:01
pianoboy3333maybe12:01
pianoboy3333lemme look12:01
ravenousnosse: well you can /topic but as far as showing it the whole time i dunno12:01
nossethanks12:01
nossefirst time ever to see so long topic12:01
lamegopianoboy3333, : sudo apt-get install amarok12:01
pianoboy3333NO12:01
pianoboy3333lamego: I need mtp support12:01
user__StoneNote: ... is that in the accessories menu... :-p12:02
anthony__david, you there still?12:02
StoneNotelol12:02
qatsiATI isnt supported for Xgl right >12:02
thofflanduser_: System/screensaver12:02
kaotqatsi: depends.  I've got a Mobility 9000 / R250, it works on mine12:02
ravenousqatsi: of course it is12:02
lamegoqatsi, it's not ? I have used XGL with my Radeon 960012:02
pianoboy3333qatsi: I have my radeon working with xgl....12:02
thofflanduser_: if your using Gnome desktop... if your using KDE I cant help12:02
qatsidarn !! so, why cant i use xgl with my Radeon 9550 ?? anyone has a good tutorial ?12:03
qatsior howto, or anything ?12:03
ravenous!xgl12:03
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:03
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jake1I have a Lucent Technologies card that supposebly says Orinocco on it......... is there a particular way to tell which driver it is using on Ubuntu12:03
StoneNoteuser_ KDE is Settings | Appearance & Themes | Screensaves12:03
ravenoustada12:03
pirx67jrib: The change in the sources list fixed the problem with the missing dependency of libid3tag0. Thank you and bye.12:03
jake1at this point12:03
qatsilamego: you have the same card as me, does it work smoothly ?12:03
kaotqatsi: the one I used:  http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=38912:03
lamegoqatsi, make sure you have the 3d driver installed to start with :)12:03
lamegoqatsi, yes it does12:03
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thofflandcan anyone tell me if it's necessary to install the service packs for windows when using them in VMWare?12:04
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qatsilamego: i have direct rendering working at 1700 fps...thats the only thing i know...12:04
kaotvideo playback is a bit rough, I've heard that's the case across all ATIs for some reason.12:04
kaot(in Xgl)12:04
user__thoffland: gnome (default Ubuntu), but ... i don't see screensaver under system/preferences or system/administration (or system/)12:04
castillohelp!!! i'm new at ubuntu and i don't know how to install programs12:04
markrianthoffland: depends what you mean12:04
StoneNotethoffland, you mean when running windows as a virtual appliance?12:04
erUSULthoffland: no more nor less that is neccessary in any other machine i guess12:04
kaotcastillo: System-> administration -> synaptic12:04
lamegocastillo, help.ubuntu.com the guide is nice12:05
sethkuser__, look for screen configuration12:05
thofflandok, thanks12:05
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gre1i have an aol account but it wont work in gaim all though all my aim acoounts work how do if that?12:05
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gre1srry typos12:05
lamegodoes gaim supports the aim protocol ?12:06
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thofflandi'm just using XP Pro as a virtual machine on my Dapper system... to run Flash and Dreamweaver... they dont require it on install, but I was just wondering if there was a reason I should try to install it12:06
gre1yes12:06
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livingdaylightanyone have experience of using Enlightenment?12:06
gre1i have 2 aim accounts on it12:06
gre11 aol one12:06
castillothanks, but the problem is that i want to install yahoo messenger and it doesn't appear in the list12:06
gre1but the other aol won wont work12:06
erUSULlamego: well it began being Gnome AIM --> gaim ;)12:06
castilloand i already downloaded it12:06
gre1its reall old aol account12:06
kaotlivingdaylight: I've used it, only e16 though and not for a long time.12:06
lamegoerUSUL, ok :P12:06
user__sethk: system/preferences/'screen resolution' is the closest thing i see12:06
Blacklighthey guys, i need some help.12:07
Blacklighti just downloaded both Wine files using synaptic pakage manager, how do i install them or access them?12:07
livingdaylightkaot: did you compile it or use synaptic to install12:07
gre1whats wrong w/ it?12:07
kaotuser__: you don't see screensaver right beneath that?12:07
thofflanduser_: you should see screensaver in there12:07
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sethkuser__, I use kde, so I'm not sure how to find it in gnome.  In kde you can right click on an empty part of the desktop12:07
lamegoBlacklight, you run it from the terminal: wine program.exe12:07
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user__kaot: no, i see 'sessions'12:07
kaotlivingdaylight: lately I used synaptic, but I only used it for about 10 minutes under ubuntu12:07
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dark0wlcan someone read me the command for configuring keyboard ?12:07
Blacklightterminal ay?12:07
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dark0wl?12:08
livingdaylightkaot: so, i can instill in ubuntu using synaptic, what happens then?12:08
user__sethk: yah.  i just want gnome's "sensible" defaults to be more telepathic for me..12:08
livingdaylightkaot: do i reboot?12:08
sethkuser__, telepathic?  :)12:08
livingdaylightkaot: and do i keep the choice of using gnome window manager or englighenment12:08
kaotlivingdaylight: you should simply be able to log out, and then click "sessions" on your gdm login screen and switch to enlightenment.  Yes, you still have the choice of which to use.12:09
user__sethk: they should read my mind to find out what's sensible for me!  (kde is more convenient when i need to find something)12:09
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livingdaylightkaot: thanks. Just needed reassuring.12:09
silentjlivingdaylight : do you use englighenment? is it good? Is it anything like Fluxbox ? I like fluxbox becaused of all the cool colors and stuff but it is like to damn hard to configure/// Heard Englightenment was good tho???12:09
livingdaylightkaot: it doesn't adversely affect ubuntu install in any way12:09
nossevould it be nice if those links in the topic would be on one website?12:10
dark0wlcan someone read me the command for configuring keyboard ?12:10
kaotlivingdaylight: no it doesn't.  if you don't like it you can take it right out via synaptic12:10
jake1is there a way to do this12:10
Blacklighter... when you say terminal what do you mean?12:10
kaotsilentj: enlightenment is far more flexible and configurable than fluxbox, but a little wonky in my experience.  Not a bad wm, all in all.12:10
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jake1you mean what is the terminal?12:10
Blacklightyeh12:10
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jake1are you familiar with the term console?12:11
livingdaylightsilentj: no, haven't used it yet. Read a cool article about enlightenment and fluxbox in Linux Journal which has inspired me to try it. I chose Enlightenment over fluxbox because of the promise of animated background12:11
silentjkoat, you think its better than gnome?12:11
Blacklightif its a linux term... no12:11
castillohow can i install yahoo messenger, please if someone knows...12:11
jake1BlackLight: are you a linux user?12:11
Blacklightonly new12:11
StoneNoteBlacklight, like a windows c prompt box in a window.12:11
silentjI like Gnome but the thing that sucks is you really cant customize it alot12:11
castilloi need help12:11
jake1ah12:11
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StoneNotebut more12:11
jake1well you should DEFINATELY familiarize your self with the terminal12:11
ravenouslivingdaylight: pretty sure animated backgrounds are only in e1712:11
Blacklightlol12:11
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jake1you will be spending lots of time there12:12
DaveKIm finding that quite often apps cant be run properly without using sudo. such as gimp cant open images or xsane cant open the scanner drivers is there a fix for this or a solution12:12
jake1it's how you control the system12:12
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kaotsilentj: enlightenment?  well, as far as I know they stopped major development on E16, and have moved onto E17, which isn't done yet.  E16 is therefore lacking a bit of the polish Gnome has, and also its default setup isn't as accessible as Gnome's12:12
jake1it's like MSDOS in the sense that it is all text based12:12
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silentjkoat I see12:12
clementinss12:12
Blacklightmmk12:12
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livingdaylightravenous: Yes, e17. Does ubuntu not have that version?12:12
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kaotsilentj: but depending on what you're looking for, it could be better than Gnome12:12
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kaotsilentj: it is, as I've said, ridiculously configurable12:13
ravenouslivingdaylight: nope, it has 16 .. 17 is still beta and has to be compiled from CVS12:13
eternalswdI have sun java installed, how do I compile .java files with it?12:13
livingdaylightravenous: that's what made me want to try it!12:13
Blacklightwell ive got the terminal open12:13
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thofflandsilentJ: I use fluxbox on my other machine, only tried Enlightenment briefly, but I like fluxbox much better. At least for my 128mb 800mhz laptop12:13
livingdaylightravenous: arrgh...12:13
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StoneNoteBlacklight, cool. I'll have a big mac, large fries...12:13
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kaotthoffland: I ran enlightenment on a 600mhz athlon, 128MB ram, ran pretty well for all that.12:13
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Blacklightwould you like to upsize that for a dollar?12:13
kaotthat was forever ago, though.12:13
StoneNoteBlacklight, supersize me12:14
kaotI was used to a certain degree of sluggishness.  :\12:14
silentjwhat do you suggest as far as an alternate UI? Gnome is cool but I wanna change my window colors for example ya know alot more transperancys ect. I have a super fast machine so its not for speed, just eyecandy12:14
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sharperguyWho's on secondlife?12:14
Blacklightim sorry, we dont have supersize in australia12:14
kaotsilentj: look into Compiz12:14
sharperguyoops, wrong channel12:14
sharperguy!offtopic12:14
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:14
silentjkoat : ahh yes, In my dreams12:14
StoneNoteBlacklight, nevermind that. why is there vegamite on my mac?12:14
Blacklight*sigh*12:14
bEDOcan anyone help me .. and give a room for begginners12:14
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silentjkoat, 3 times I tried to install XGL 3 times i had to reinstall Ubin212:14
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kaotsilentj: otherwise, yeah, I'd say give enlightenment a shot.  You'll have to do some research to learn everything you can configure with it12:15
Blacklightoh yeh, did i forget to tell you we eat kangaroo meat daily? *cough* fool*cough*12:15
Blacklight:P12:15
DaveKBlacklight -- offtopic12:15
Blacklightall i want to know is how to run wine12:15
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jake1can anyone tell me what driver my wireless card is using12:15
kaotsilentj: I had a few nice screenshots from years ago, where my desktop was 4 differently-tinted transparent terms (Red, purple, blue, green), transparent xchat windows, etc12:15
DaveKsudo wine12:15
jake1there needs to be a command12:15
jake1i jst dnt know what it is12:15
Alt127hello12:15
kaotsilentj: I can't find them though, unfortunately12:15
DaveKor just type wine12:15
StoneNoteBlacklight, apt-get install wine ... do you have the repsoitories in your sources.list in /etc/apt/ ?12:15
bEDOHELLo0o12:16
DaveKno offence12:16
bEDOcan anyone help me here12:16
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Blacklighthold on12:16
DaveKbut i have asked a questio 2x12:16
DaveKIm finding that quite often apps cant be run properly without using sudo. such as gimp cant open images or xsane cant open the scanner drivers is there a fix for this or a solution12:16
thofflandbEDO: ask your question?12:16
DaveKand now a third12:16
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pianoboy3333bEDO: ok, what's the problem?12:16
Blacklighttoo many people speaking :S12:16
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bEDOi wanna channel or someplace for begginers ..12:16
Blacklighti got the files off synaptic package manager12:16
thofflandbEDO: I think this is it\12:16
pianoboy3333bEDO: please just ask you question12:16
mutketernalswd, http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/unix.html  <---12:17
StoneNoteBlacklight, synaptic uses apt's sources.list so that's fine12:17
bEDOwell but i need to ask some primitave questions !!12:17
peteweezbEDO: Just ask your question here...people are usually happy to help12:17
debnub_is there a channel for networking?12:17
jake1ok wtf?12:17
Jack_SparrowbEDO: no problem. just ask12:17
pianoboy3333bEDO: please, just ask your question12:17
jake1what command tells me what driver my wireless card is using12:17
bEDOinfact .. i like linux system .. and the idea of open sources ..12:17
vgejake lspci12:17
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bEDOand i have tried the live CD of ubuntu and liked it so much ..12:18
jake1thankyou12:18
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ladydoor!ask12:18
jake1bEDo ask question12:18
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:18
bEDObut before getting involved i wanna make sure if i won't regret it12:18
nosse:D12:18
jake1bEDo what would make you regret it?12:18
pianoboy3333bEDO: that's really something only you can decide12:18
bEDOand how much time do i need to adapt to it ..12:18
kaotbEDO: lay hands on a second hard drive,then.  That way you could always yank it and go back to windows.12:18
jake1do you like your first born child12:18
peteweezbEDO ppl here don't flame (usually)12:18
jake1?12:18
wifiworkshow do i cp a dir?12:19
kaotwifiworks: cp -R12:19
wifiworkscp /sdjl/ /klsdfjklsdf/12:19
debnub_is there a irc channel for networking?12:19
wifiworksman i dum12:19
thofflandwifiworks: use sudo12:19
_lupinewifiworks: cp -a is iusually a better idea12:19
vgebEDO: you might be safer with KDE if your coming from windows12:19
sethkwifiworks, sometimes cp -a is better.  check man cp12:19
debnub_Hi everyone. need help configuring my home network. 1 laptop+1box+adsl router. name resolution problem i think12:19
peteweezdebnub_: try /list #net*12:19
peteweezthat might have networking channels12:19
Jack_Sparrowdebnub: That covers a lot of ground.. could you be more specific12:19
bEDOok .. the second question12:19
kaotoh neat.  Never used cp -a.12:19
bEDOi have laptop centrino 1.612:20
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bEDOand have an old pached pc .. 45o p312:20
wifiworkswhat if i want to cp to the curent dir do i have to type the destination path again or is there a trick12:20
bEDOwith 490 mb Rams12:20
longwavewifiworks: just use a . for the current dir12:20
_lupine"." is a symlink to the current DIR12:20
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wifiworks.12:20
_lupine".." is one dir up12:20
wifiworkscool12:20
bEDOcan i run ubunto on that12:20
bEDO?12:20
_lupine"..." doesn't exist ;)12:20
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_lupine(../.. does, however)12:20
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wifiworks_lupine: ah i  see no i get cd . .  hehe12:20
peteweezbEDO: try Debian...it has very low system requirements12:21
_lupinebEDO: shouls be able to12:21
peteweezubuntu might work12:21
thofflandbEDO: yes, I run it on a laptop that has 128mb ram pIII ... but it might be slow12:21
longwavebEDO: yes, ubuntu will run on that, though the gnome desktop will probably be rather slow. you could try xubuntu which works better on lower-end hardware.12:21
_lupineIF unsure, xubuntu will run on anything12:21
wifiworksok sudo cp -aR   and i cant go wrong12:21
D0wnI need some help installing libqt3-mt. Everytime I do a "dpkg -i libqt3-mt_3.3.6-4_i385.deb" I get an error12:21
mckinnojSo I decided to give Amarok a try, but it is amazingly slow.  Any ideas?  I don't think it's my machine, as I have a 3GHz processor and 1 gig of RAM12:21
thofflandyes, xubuntu is nice too12:21
acidianhow do I open a windows shared folder by ip in console?12:21
_lupinebut my PC is 5123MB RAM, and it runs KDE fine12:21
peteweezDOwn: does it say it'll break packages or something?12:21
_lupineerm, 512MB ;)12:21
kaotwifiworks: -aR is actually redundant, as -a implies -R12:21
acidianlike I want to open a folder thats shared on 10.0.0.612:21
amonkeyare there any caveats to using xfs in ubuntu? I'm going to have a 500gb partition filled with very large files and read it was better for them.12:21
bEDOwhat is the diference between Ubunto and Xubunto !!12:21
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_lupinexUbuntu uses the XFCE desktop; Ubuntu uses Gnome12:22
longwavedorel__: why are you using dpkg? libqt3-mt is available in the repositories12:22
_lupine(Kubuntu uses KDE)12:22
bEDOso i need a different version12:22
_lupineunlike windows, you have a choice of desktop :)12:22
longwavesorry, D0wn: why are you using dpkg? libqt3-mt is available in the repositories12:22
bEDOor it is an option in instrallation ?12:22
kaotacidian: check Places -> Network Servers if you're in gnome12:22
bEDOinstallation*12:22
_lupinedifferent CDs12:22
_lupineTBH, you would be fine with Ubuntu12:22
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acidiankaot: I need to do it in terminal12:22
debnub_peteweez: thanks, i've learned how to search a channell. zero hits :)12:23
peteweezD0wn: libqt3c102-mt (older ver) is incompatible with libqt3-mt (newer ver), so you need to recompile apps that are compiled against libqt3c102-mt12:23
peteweezdebnub_: oh sorry12:23
bEDObut all of them have the same way to work .. and same results ?12:23
longwavedebnub_: if your question is related to networking on ubuntu, ask it here12:23
D0wnI'm trying to install Skype, and it requires libqt3-mt12:23
kaotacidian: ah.  Got a name for the computer or does it have to be ip?12:23
acidianname works12:23
Blacklightwhen i type wine PROGRAM into the terminal to boot it, it says: "c:\\windows\\system32\\PROGRAM.exe" why is it trying to run off windows?12:23
_lupinebEDO: it's basically the eye candy that differs12:23
longwaveD0wn: what does "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt" say?12:23
D0wnTried12:23
D0wnNo luck12:23
acidiankaot: isnt ip and name the same?12:24
longwaveD0wn: exactly what is the error message, though12:24
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peteweezD0wn: does it say you have to remove packages to install libqt3-mt?12:24
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_lupineeither one will run linux applications equally well12:24
_lupineD0wn: try using aptitude. It's smarter than apt-get12:24
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bEDOok .. if i got a new pc .. is there any recommendations for the system12:24
anthonyheya how do I change language in OOo to English (UK) ? I keep changing it, but it keeps flicking back..... any ideas anyone?12:24
kaotacidian: depends.  anyway you should be able to just say mount -t smbfs //(ipaddress)/(share name) /mountpoint/foo12:24
bEDOand can i install both windows and ubunto ?12:24
_lupinenVidia graphics card is my only suggestion12:24
pianoboy3333bEDO: yes.... it's complicated though12:25
kaotacidian: where mountpoint is the directory you want the share to hang off of12:25
_lupineYou can dual-boot win and lin no problems12:25
_lupineit is trivial12:25
_lupine:)12:25
kaotacidian: all that is sudo of course12:25
acidiankaot: ok Ill try that12:25
_lupinesplit the hard drive into two, install windows first12:25
erUSULbEDO: yes make sure you install windows first12:25
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debnub_longwave: yes now running winxp on a dualboot system (xp+ubuntu). also have a box and a dsl-router. winxp works fine, all internet services running. on ubuntu only partial services. updates ok but no www.12:25
peteweezD0WN: Why don't you put your error message in a pastebin??12:25
manuxHi!12:25
D0wnI am12:25
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D0wnIt's loading12:25
peteweezok good12:25
manuxANyone can help me with a surecom ep-9428 wireless pcmcia board12:26
manuxIt doesn't work12:26
manuxI've use ndiswrapper but the return message is invalid drivers12:26
peteweezmanux: is your card broken or do you need drivers?12:26
bEDOthnx ppl for the help ..12:26
thofflandWhen I tried running GTKPod I get a segmentation error... anyone have some insight on this?12:27
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bEDOhope soon i'll ask more important questions12:27
manuxpeteweez: I need drivers12:27
thofflandbEDO: good luck!! have fun with it!12:27
kaotmanux: what chipset does the card use?12:27
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manuxkaot: rtl818012:27
kaotmanux: not familiar with that one, sorry12:27
D0wnhttp://pastebin.com/77928212:27
mutkbEDO, In Linux world, 'diving in and exploring' is a good way to learn..12:27
bEDOHope So .. i like the idea.. and it seems better in some aspects ..12:27
peteweezmanux: sounds like it might be atheros12:27
peteweezthat needs madwifi12:27
longwavedebnub_: do you use automatic configuration (DHCP) on xp and ubuntu, or have you had to enter manual settings on either OS?12:28
manuxmadwifi?12:28
peteweezmanux: driver for atheros chipsets...I think it's in ubuntu12:28
D0wnpeteweez: http://pastebin.com/77928212:28
debnub_longwave: using static ip on every os.12:28
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MorphboyMy Ubuntu crashed while I was upgrading to LT 6.06 LTS so I had to reboot. Now it's fucked! How do I take it back to scratch? I don't care about my files.12:28
peteweezD0wn:ok hold on12:28
manuxoh, I understand12:28
lamegoMorphboy, just insert the cd and install it12:29
thofflandMorphboy: can you just reinstall from the live cd?12:29
longwavedebnub_: you are using the same static ip on xp and ubuntu including netmask, default gateway and dns server entries?12:29
MorphboyI don't have the CD anymore12:29
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Morphboyis there any way to install it again through root?12:29
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debnub_longwave: yes. i've set my router as the dns server12:29
thofflandMorphboy: if you have a terminal, sudo apt-get -f install12:29
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peteweezD0WN: did you try apt-get update?12:30
longwaveMorphboy: you can try setting your sources.list to use dapper then "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade", it may still finish the upgrade12:30
MorphboyI have a recovery terminal.. are you sure that will be able to access the intarhnet?12:30
D0wnWill try12:30
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thofflandlongwave's idea is better...12:30
D0wnIt finished12:31
ciscosurferare the forums down?12:31
Morphboynah I prefer Breezy Badger, or at least a friend told me it's better12:31
D0wnNow it's working12:31
kaotciscosurfer: I dunno, what would the difference be?  :O12:31
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kaotI keed, I keed!12:31
wifiworksshould i give ndiswrapper xp 98 or 2k drivers?12:31
longwavedebnub_: does it resolve anything if you try "nslookup www.google.com" at the terminal on the ubuntu box?12:31
eefmraimundohelp12:31
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peteweezD0WN: Did it solve your problem?12:31
ciscosurferkaot: they'd be up12:31
D0wnYeah, I think so. Thanks :D12:32
silentj_Hey all, I have a question, I want to download this cool system monitor thing, it like docks itself to your desktop It tells you your CPU speed, temp, time, gives you email allerts ect. But Ive no idea what its called anyone help me out? I saw it once on DSL linux12:32
peteweezD0wn: sure...happy I could help!12:32
MorphboyBut how will I be able to access the internet through recovery terminal? I dont even know how to activate eth012:32
debnub_longwave. yep12:32
thofflandsilentJ: Gkrellm or Torsmo12:32
sunbugI tried to install "gnome" with apt, but wwhen i try gdm or startx i get: X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting. Any ideas?12:32
longwaveMorphboy: you should try dapper before you go back to breezy, *you* might like it better even if your friend doesn't ;)12:32
Morphboyroger12:32
longwavedebnub_: so that works, but browsing from say firefox doesn't?12:32
eefmraimundohelp12:32
Jack_SparrowMorphboy: HArd to say you prefer one os over another if you have NOT tried the other one..12:32
thofflandeefmraimundo: what's up12:32
debnub_longwave. exactly12:32
jake1what command will tell me what driver my wireless card is using12:33
longwavedebnub_: did you configure a proxy in firefox?12:33
Morphboyalright.. Ill try to find a new CD and turn it on fire (burn it)12:33
Jack_Sparrowjake1: terminal lspci -v12:33
ciscosurferis there a Garnome channel?12:33
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debnub_longwave: please dont beat me up. firefox is runnig fine. :)12:33
Jack_Sparrowjake1: It is a start..12:33
anthony heya how do I change language in OOo to English (UK) ? I keep changing it, but it keeps flicking back..... any ideas anyone?12:33
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peteweezciscosufer: try "/list *Garnome* "12:34
longwavedebnub_: uhm so there is no problem here? it has fixed itself? :)12:34
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MorphboyWhy is Ubuntu so hated among some people? I want an honest reply for myself to work from, not just a convincing attitude12:34
Morphboy*channel turns silent*12:34
longwaveanthony: that works fine for me (i'm in the UK), do you have the openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb package installed?12:34
thofflandI dont think anyone in here hates it Morphboy... you might be asking the wrong crowd12:35
nickspoonMorphboy: depends what group of people you mean.12:35
Juhazwhy don't you ask them? you probably won't find any ubuntu haters here12:35
longwaveyou aren't going to get people hating ubuntu in here, except the trolls who get banned quick enough12:35
kaotMorphboy: because given a large enough cross section of people, you'll find a group of people who hate anything you care to name.12:35
anthonylongwave, not sure: how do I instal it?12:35
debnub_longwave: just one more thing.nslookup output said server:192.168.0.1#53. i think it means my router is acting as a domain server right? is that ok?12:35
Jack_SparrowMorphboy: It has money behind it.. It has people using it it has people supporting it,  Not silent12:35
Morphboyroger all12:35
kaotMorphboy: for a better answer, ask a sociologist.  :\12:35
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MorphboyxD12:35
XenguyMorphboy: you've probably been listening to some bad-tempered Debian fanboys =)12:35
StoneNoteMorphboy, why would you come to an ubuntu channel to find people who hated ubuntu? maybe try searching on "ubuntu+sucks" or "I hate ubuntu"12:36
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levanderCan I run ubuntu breezy off the LiveCD with 80MB's of RAM?12:36
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Jack_Sparrowno12:36
MorphboyIll be sticking to Ubuntu anyway.. easy interface for a winnub like me ^_^12:36
levanderJack_Sparrow: you've tried it?12:36
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Jack_Sparrowlevander: specs call for a minimum of 25612:36
thofflandOK, thanks for the help peoples! CYA12:37
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Morphboylataz, thanks for assistance. <312:37
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longwaveanthony: go to system > administration > synaptic package manager and search for "openoffice en-gb"12:37
stirmananyone know if it's possible to install Ubuntu on an Intel based mac, without losing the data on the hd?12:38
magus_xwhat package should i download to be able to compile the kernel?12:38
longwave!kernel12:38
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild12:38
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: start with build-essentials12:38
longwavedebnub_: yes, most dsl routers act as a dns server, that's fine12:38
z\mangus_x:12:38
z\sudo apt-get update12:39
z\sudo apt-get install build-essential12:39
z\sudo apt-get install kernel-package12:39
z\sudo apt-get install gcc12:39
z\sudo apt-get install libncurses512:39
z\sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev12:39
z\sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev12:39
magus_xJack_Sparrow, : well, all i need is install a module12:39
anthonylongwave, but of course!  yeah it's installed12:39
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x:  ANy particular reason you feel you need to compile your own12:39
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z\magus_x: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/CompilazioneKernel?highlight=%28compilazione%29%7C%28kernel%2912:39
debnub_longwave: gaim is not working! :)12:39
debnub_:)12:39
debnub_:(12:39
magus_xJack_Sparrow, : well, all i need is install a module12:39
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: What module do you need12:39
magus_xcdemu-0.812:40
longwaveanthony: where are you trying to set the language?12:40
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magus_xi need run cd images12:40
erUSUL!paste > z\12:40
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magus_xbut not iso, because i know how mount them, i need run .ccd12:40
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: .iso's?12:40
z\erUSUL i'm sorry12:40
longwaveanthony: for me it works if i open Writer then go to tools > options > language settings > languages > default language for documents > western12:40
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Pretorianoz\ lol12:41
magus_xJack_Sparrow, : sorry, bad english12:41
[g2] is there a way to not have the CDROM eject on dapper during the shutdown ?12:41
silentjI have a question... I want to change my home folder.. For example,.. now my home folder is /home/blue I want to change it to /home/red is there any way to do this? I tried to sudo change the file name but then nothing worked haha12:41
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magus_xi need be able to mount ccd's12:41
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: As long as you know what you want and why you need it.. great..12:41
anthonylongwave, tools -> options -> language settings -> languages -> default languages for docs -> western -> english (GB)12:41
magus_xlol12:41
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Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: Too many feel they Must have the latest and have no reason why.12:41
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z\hi pretoriano.12:41
ciscosurferAny Garnome experts here??12:41
[g2] Jack_Sparrow that's a funny nick :)12:41
Pretorianohi, what's up?12:41
anthonylongwave, ok -> type "colour" -> red line12:42
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dark0wlhello12:42
Jack_Sparrow[g2] : I'm pleased to put a smile on your face..12:42
StoneNote[g2] , Pirates of the Carribean12:42
magus_xwell, i need mount a specific ccd image, any way how with the actual kernel? or i need download the kernel source?12:42
dark0wlcan anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?12:42
anthonylongwave, tools -> options -> ... -> it's back on English (USA)12:42
ciscosurferNo Garnome experts???12:42
peteweezdark0wl: depends on your window manager.12:43
dark0wl<peteweez> im using fluxbox12:43
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x:  Just one image or different images of the same extension.?12:43
magus_xjust one12:43
dark0wland i dont know how to configure my keyboard12:43
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longwaveanthony: hrm actually mine is set to English (UK), i just changed it and saved and reopened and it went back to English (USA), it must take the default from elsewhere... hold on12:43
peteweezdark0wm: do you want to set keyboard shortcuts, like ctrl+alt+del or something?12:43
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Larynxkebabfish12:43
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: Why not convert that one image to an iso.?12:43
dark0wlpeteweez no12:43
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: avoid the whole compile thing12:44
magus_xbut with which program?12:44
magus_xJack_Sparrow, : yeah, i want avoid, but i dont know how i can do12:44
Jack_Sparrowmagus_x: Can you not burn a .ccd12:44
peteweezdark0wl: I don't know then...I configured mine when I configured X.12:44
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jake1jack-sparrow the network settings does not show what driver the wireless card is using12:44
magus_xk3b dont opens it12:44
jake1i want to know the name of the driver12:44
ciscosurferLast shot...Anybody here use Garnome?12:44
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magus_xciscosurfer, : Garnome or gnome?12:44
Jack_Sparrowjake1: did it show up in lspci ?12:45
dark0wl<peteweez> do you use gnome ?12:45
ciscosurfermagus_x: Garnome12:45
longwaveanthony: is your keyboard set to UK in system > preferences > keyboards, and English (UK) selected in system > administration > language support?12:45
jake1no it just gave me the driver of my PCMCIA slot\12:45
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mdkanedahey, ive been battling w/ getting Samba configured correctly for days, and no luck. my smb.conf is probably really screwed up by now, What im looking to do is just get a working smb.conf w/ ubuntu, preferably no password necessary for a WinXP machine to logon, can someone take a look at my smb.conf and help me out?12:45
anthonylongwave, should be. one sec12:45
jake1not the card in it12:45
jake1i tried iwconfig12:45
silentjAnyone? I want to change my home folder.. For example,.. now my home folder is /home/blue I want to change it to /home/red is there any way to do this?12:45
aboany one knows if freenet is packaged for ubuntu, or should I instal it as they say on its site?12:45
jake1and under eth2 it says HermesI12:45
jake1but i dnt think that is the driver12:45
Pulshiondoes anyone know how to select certain files in nautilus and make those files play using rhytmbox, i used to just highlight and add to playlist in wmp12:45
WarboIs http://www.ubuntuforums.org down? It isn't loading for me, but it also isn't displaying a 404 page12:45
uniosilentj: create a new account; i don't think you can rename accounts12:46
StoneNotemagus_x, A new distribution of GNOME, based on the GAR ports system by Nick Moffitt. For testing GNOME 2.0 without breaking current GNOME packages12:46
silentjunio really? That sucks ass12:46
magus_x3cool12:46
dark0wl<peteweez> do you use gnome ?12:46
uniosilentj: yes; unless you want to risk messing up your user account (and possible others?)12:46
anthonylongwave, it's downloading some stuff now..........apparently not all language aids (SP?!?) were installed12:46
erUSULsilentj: System>Admin>Users Choose your user and edit the properties12:47
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WarboPulshion: Rhythmbox is collection-based. You could try drag 'n' drop (I don't use Rythmbox much so I am no sure)12:47
rob_psilentj, man usermod12:47
PulshionWarbo -- whats the best music player?12:47
Warbo!best12:47
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.12:47
Jack_Sparrowjake1: !best12:47
silentjVLA player @@!12:47
silentjVLA is gangsta12:47
WarboPulshion: Personally I use Listen, Amarok and XMMS12:47
dark0wlcan anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?12:47
dark0wlcan anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?12:47
silentjVLA works for everything12:47
eternaljoyhow can I completely delete my system of any websites visited?  besides "Clear Private Data" in Firefox and besides using Root Kit Hunter. any other ways to totally CLEAN computer?12:47
longwaveanthony: hrm i don't know what those downloads are, it may fix your problem, but i have found a mention of similar bug on the forums, i am searching launchpad to see if anyone has reported it there12:48
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mutkThe best music player I have is my CD pl;ayer.12:48
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WarboCDs, eww12:48
mr3vilhi @ll. is there a tool to reduce the processor-speed!?12:48
dark0wlcan anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?12:48
anthonylongwave, I found a page on that too - the guys there ended up renaming the language file to force OOo to take that as English (USA)!12:48
PulshionWarbo -- k thanx, drag and drop worked, i just had my blonde moments haha12:48
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abosilentj, unio, setting the $HOME env variable does change the home directory12:49
dark0wlcan anyone tell me the command or configuring keyboard ?12:49
tuxtux_notte12:49
Jack_Sparrow!repeat dark0wl12:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repeat dark0wl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:49
Jack_Sparrow!repeat > dark0wl12:49
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dark0wlcant you just open your menu editr an take a look ?12:49
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mdkanedahow about this, is there atleast a way to revert back to the original smb.conf so i can start over, and try not changing anything? hehe, i tried "completely" removing the samba package and reinstalling, but that left my smb.conf alone12:50
longwaveanthony: yeah, that doesn't sound like a great solution, but i can't find any other fix right now :(12:50
anthonylongwave, no it didn't work :(12:50
longwaveanthony: this is reported in launchpad: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/3593612:50
erUSULmdkaneda: --purge will do the trick12:50
mdkanedaerUSUL: thanx, i'll try giving this another hack12:50
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longwaveanthony: no fix for it as yet though, and openoffice.org claims it's not their problem, it's ubuntu's12:51
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dark0wlCan someone open the menu editor and tell me the command used for keyboard config ?12:51
dark0wlis it too hard ?12:51
delta___Hey guys! I am looking for a gnome panel applet that displays gauges for "free disk", "free mem", "cpu load" and "net load" - preferably looking like a car dashboard's needle that goes from 0% to 100%. Does anyone know of such an application?12:51
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anthonylongwave, pfft yeah right: I remember something like this happening under windows too....12:51
silentjWhat is the favorite Terminal Flavor in the room? I use GnomeTerm only because it came with Ubin2 but I want to try something new, anyone got any suggestions?12:51
WarboNOTE: You can drag menu entries onto the panel to get at their command name. That beats loading Alacarte, which takes AGES12:52
WizCrakerhow do I set the default gateway through cli?12:52
delta___dark0wl: gnome-keyboard-properties12:52
dark0wlthank you very much !12:52
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delta___dark0wl: np12:52
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silentjI mean is there really any difference in terminals?12:53
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delta___silentj: I am using gnome-terminal (again, after a trip through all alternatives I could find)12:53
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StoneNotesilentj, I use gnome-terminal & konsole. I no no preference between the two12:53
StoneNoteI have no^12:53
silentjdelta__ there is no real difference between them?12:53
anthonylongwave, no worries: I'll rename the language pack instead :P thanks for your help dude12:53
delta___silentj: The main differences lie with a) Desktop integration and b) speed12:53
Warbosilentj: I like gnome terminal. Many people might say xterm because it is small, but gnome-terminal is apparently (on GNOME site) quicker than xterm12:53
zenitsilentj: I usually use xterm, becase that one is usually installed by default.12:54
longwaveanthony: yeah it's a dirty fix but openoffice is so convoluted there is probably no easy answer, i'm afraid :(12:54
zeniton different systems that is12:54
anthonyexit12:54
silentjsenit yea12:54
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silentjI tried putty i think it was pretty cool, and ther e was one that if you hit F12 it dropped down from the top of your screen dont remember what it was called tho12:55
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silentjAnyone know when XGL will be useable to human beings?12:55
WarboThe main difference in terminals is their speed. For example "dmesg" would output pretty much instantly in a console, but can take ages for a graphical terminal to scroll through it as it outputs12:55
nrdbHi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd can anyone help?12:55
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gnomefreaksilentj: try asking in #ubuntu-xgl they would know more12:55
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anthonyanother problem (!): my connection is periodically reducing to nothing and then booting back  again.  in windows it just went and then had to reboot the router: there was nothing like this. any ideas?12:56
Warbosilentj: Erm.. When someone makes a GUI for it? (which would be a stupid idea)12:56
silentjgnomefreak not that interested haha12:56
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WarboXGL is an X server12:56
delta___nrdb: What exactly goes wrong?12:56
silentjWarbo, when someone makes an install that works12:56
silentjhaha12:56
silentjGUI would be nice12:56
Warbopackages would be better12:56
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silentjor something simple like.. apt-get install XGL12:56
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silentjor something12:57
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silentjwould be cool12:57
Yurtlehow can i force ntpdate to run ?12:57
silentjI cant get the damn thing to run for the life of me12:57
nrdbdelta___: nothing works the sound, the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."12:57
livingdaylightgot flumuxed by enlightenment12:57
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silentjwhich sucks cuz its cxool as hell12:57
delta___Yurtle: something like "sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart", I'd suppose12:57
livingdaylightcouldn't find the application menu12:57
silentjWarbo, same here12:57
gnomefreaksilentj: xgl is in dappers repos and as i said take all xgl topics to #ubuntu-xgl please12:57
silentj3 times12:57
liran1for some reason swap stopped operating... its defined in /etc/fstab but swapon doesnt initialize it12:57
Warbosilentj: I am in AiGLX right now, but running GNOME+E1612:57
silentjgnomefreak, calm down dude.12:57
longwaveYurtle: something like "sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov" or another time server of your choice12:58
Bassyi have a noobe (linux) question, i have a file name with a space in the name, and i can't delete or move it, what's the command if your file name has a space in it (sorry for the noobe question)12:58
mjrBassy, "file name"12:58
Yurtlestrange i dont know why its not autorunning on bott.12:58
Yurtleuh boot12:58
delta___Bassy: Use "\ " to escape the space12:58
mjror what delta said12:58
gnomefreaksilentj: than go to #ubuntu-xgl or #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about xgl12:58
Bassythanx guys...12:58
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nrdbBassy: quote the name e.g >ls "my name"12:58
Yurtle29 Aug 16:58:41 ntpdate[13988] : no server suitable for synchronization found12:58
Yurtle312:58
liran1when i run 'swapon -a' i get 'swapon: /dev/sda4: Invalid argument'12:58
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silentjYou know, its like so touchy in here sometimes. Where is the humanity?! Where is the love?! comeon people if someone asks a question, instead of being helpful you take the time to say RTFM or some other useless thing that is no help to anyone12:59
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silentjand XGL is on topic in my opinion12:59
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silentjso :P12:59
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waspiushi...i found this really cool site http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en which has allot of useful apps etc.i am trying to download some things though but nothing is happening..most of the files exist also in a debian extention..can i find them some other way?12:59
Jack_Sparrowsilentj: That is ONLY your opinion01:00
gnomefreaksilentj: you are muted for 10 mins01:00
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Yurtleoh well wierd01:00
Yurtlebbl01:00
Jack_Sparrowthanks01:00
redcardFooding :P01:00
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WarboYay forums come up now. I don't know what went wrong01:01
longwaveliran1: is /dev/sda4 your swap device? what is in your /etc/fstab?01:01
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dr_williswaspius,  its proberly worth checking the package manager to see if those apps are allready in the repos.  much better idea to install with synaptic.01:02
anthonymy connection is periodically reducing to nothing and then booting back  again.  in windows it just went and then had to reboot the router: there was nothing like this. any ideas?01:02
liran1longwave: yeah, from fdisk -l its "/dev/sda4            6953        7080     1028160   82  Linux swap / Solaris" and from fstab its "/dev/sda4       none            swap    sw              0       0"01:02
waspiusdr_willis: i use adept and i have not found anything there..01:02
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longwaveliran1: did you run mkswap on that partition since it was created?01:02
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liran1longwave: i noticed im getting "Unable to find swap-space signature" in dmesg01:02
don_jrHello, I'm looking for a good video player for ubuntu, wmv, wma, divx, can anyone recomend one that works well?01:03
longwaveliran1: if it was working before, sounds like maybe the swap got corrupted somehow? mkswap again may fix it01:03
_lupineliran1: you want mkswap#01:03
_lupinethen swapon01:03
liran1swapon itself doesnt work01:03
nrdbHi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd,  the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.", can someone help please ?01:04
liran1ok i was thinking id have to do that01:04
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liran1so mkswap /dev/sda401:04
_lupineyou'll have to sudo, but yes01:04
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jribdon_jr: mplayer is my favorite, xine and vlc are good too (but vlc won't play nice with wmv9 without some extra work)01:04
longwaveliran1: yes, similar to a filesystem, you have to mkswap a swap partition before you can use it01:04
lamegodon_jr, http://help.ubuntu.com Desktop Guider -> 3 Common Tasks -> Video01:04
liran1right, lets see how it goes01:05
grimboyHey, I'm adding a new second graphics card in xorg.conf (Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2064W [Millennium] ) what should I enter for driver?01:05
don_jrmplayer, alright, thank you01:05
dr_williswaspius,  you may need to include the other reposoitories.  see !easysource01:05
_lupinegrimboy: start with vesa01:05
D0wnWhen I try to transfer music to my iPod with GTKPod, I keep getting this message Path not found: '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F19'.01:05
D0wnAnyone got some advice?01:05
nrdbgrimboy: I have something simular it uses the 'mga' driver01:05
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jribdon_jr: just be sure to install w32codecs along with mplayer01:05
jrib!w32codecs > don_jr01:05
liran1great, its initializing fine now.01:05
don_jrjrib will do01:05
waspius!easysource01:06
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:06
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grimboy_lupine, Thanks! I'll try that for the time being. nrdb, I'll try that if vesa works, thanks01:06
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buccaneerhello all, I have a quick question about ubuntu... does ubuntu have frequency scaling capabilities ... for say a laptop?01:08
jribbuccaneer: yes01:08
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nrdbcan you frequency scale any cpu or does it need special hardware?01:09
longwavebuccaneer: yep, my laptop is throttled to 800mhz right now because it isn't doing much except chatting01:09
buccaneerk, I was curious cause I am thinking about installing it on my laptop but the last thing I want is for the laptop to run hot or for their to be a drain on power because it s always running at the same speed01:09
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jribbuccaneer: mine switches between 1.2 and 1.6 as needed01:09
buccaneerlongwave, did you have to manually set it, or does ubuntu do it for you/01:09
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longwavebuccaneer: ubuntu does it automatically, there is a monitor you can add to a gnome panel to show you what speed it's currently at01:10
waspiusdr_willis: thanx01:10
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!lilo:*! Hi all. Note: we've added a couple of new prefixes recently.... nat/* for corporate gateway users (they'll tend to be fairly low on abuse).... and conference/* for conference gateways01:10
longwavenrdb: i believe you need speedstep or powernow! or similar support in your hardware01:10
buccaneerok, I usually just do a cat on /proc/cpuinfo01:11
longwavebuccaneer: that works too :)01:11
Jack_Sparrowbuccaneer: Reports are that battery life is still better in windows...Implying scaling is better with XP01:11
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GeckoHey, can anyone tell me how to generate ssl certificates for virtual hosts on apache?01:11
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longwaveGecko: you can't run ssl on vhosts because of the way secure HTTP works01:11
longwaveGecko: you need one IP address per SSL host, no way around it01:11
MrFeetiohow do i go about makeing a gdm login?01:11
BackemanHi! Is there a way to fetch data that were on the harddrive before a reformat? I had the same fs before as I have no (ext3).01:12
buccaneerJack_Sparrow,well microsoft has access to proprietory drivers cause they can pay for it .. so it is expected01:12
Geckolongwave: when I examine the host that I now administer, each of the vertual host have their own .pem file... So is what you say true?01:12
Jack_Sparrowbuccaneer: Agreed..01:12
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silentjwow everyone, look at gnomefreaks super mute powers! Gnomefreak your 1337-ness is overwhelming me. Im gonna have to change me undies soon!01:12
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silentjwhat a waste of time01:12
longwaveGecko: well, apache can listen on multiple IPs, so you can do vhosts that way, but you can't do it from just a single IP01:13
buccaneerI usually run freebsd on my lappy ...freebsd has some power adaptive capabilities but somehow I don't feel it is up to par with that offered through ubuntu01:13
StoneNotesilentj, temper tantrums are not helpful01:13
longwavebye silentj01:13
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computerexHey guys. I finnaly got it!01:13
buccaneerI was sampling the live cd and noticed that m machine was running a lot cooler01:13
computerexfinally*01:13
silentjyea but come on01:13
StoneNotecomputerex, congrats01:13
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silentjwhat was the reason for that?01:13
Jack_Sparrowbuccaneer: The difference is relatively minor...  JUst wanted to admit that XP does it a little better, but not worth using XP for that additional few minutes of battery life01:13
computerexYep. well, sort of...01:13
silentjJust trying to show how cool he is or what?01:13
computerexI got stuck on the prompt for password...01:13
leagrisbonsoir01:13
debnubHow can i check my inetd status? and to save changes to it?01:14
nrdbHi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd,  the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.", can someone help please ?01:14
Geckolongwave: each vhost have their own SSLCertificateFile option...01:14
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Jack_Sparrowbuccaneer: My HP lappy runs much cooler as well01:14
mutksilentj, You got it exactly right..01:14
computerexWhats soppose to be my username and password? I know I entered the password, but there was nothing about username...01:14
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computerexI am new to LINUX...01:14
longwaveGecko: read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/https - the last paragraph in the limitations section01:14
jribcomputerex: what are you trying to do?  What prompt?01:14
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debnubcomputerex: run console and write whoami01:14
computerexWhen your installition is done01:14
longwavecomputerex: you were asked for your name during installation, that is your username?01:15
computerexit asks you for the password right? On a really cool yellow screen01:15
nrdbcomputerex: it asks for name and password!01:15
computerexUsername and password01:15
computerexIt does a reboot01:15
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Geckolongwave: yes, I understand that. So I can just copy one of the certificates for this particular ssl host?01:15
computerexThen asks you for a password and a username01:15
spiderworm!nvc01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
spiderworm!vnc01:15
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.01:15
longwaveGecko: yes, as long as the domain name matches the SSL certificate of course, you should just be able to specify it in the apache config01:15
Geckolongwave: well, the domain name doesn't match, that's why I wanted to generate a new one01:16
longwaveGecko: you may need a chain certificate or something as well depending on how the original vhost was configured, if you have the same apache config file though it should work fine01:16
computerexI installed ubunto today, it worked smoothly, until the whole install was complete01:16
longwaveGecko: to get a valid one that is accepted by web browsers, you have to pay01:16
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computerexIt rebooted the computer, everything went smooth01:16
computerexBut I didn't know the username or password  ( Corrected Spelling ) 01:16
computerexBut I didnt know the username or password01:16
squellySorry to interrupt, first time on IRC... do I just ask a question, or is there a protocol?01:16
Psykusanyone know how I would keep track of max uptime? I know I can use the 'uptime' command to get the current uptime01:16
Geckolongwave: I just want one that identifies itself as the host that is accessed01:16
comtechcan anyone tell me how to add clonecd .img file compatibility to k3b? or if it's even possible01:16
longwaveGecko: or you can generate your own CA and generate a cert from that, but it will give a warning in any web browser where the CA cert is not installed01:16
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mjrsquelly, just ask01:17
jribcomputerex: it should have asked for a username and a password if you did a regular install.  If you can't remember the username, you can reboot and go to recovery mode, then type 'getent passwd 1000' to see the info for your first user01:17
Geckolongwave: if I wanted to do that, how would I do it?01:17
RicesteamAnyone know whats the difference between cgwd and gnome-compiz?01:17
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jribcomputerex: well that will get you the username at least, I think you said you knew the password right?01:17
Backemanlast Backeman01:17
computerexYes01:17
longwaveGecko: there is a quick method here: http://www.rpatrick.com/tech/makecert/01:18
computerexOh well, will have to reinstall anywa01:18
squellyJust did my first install. THe live CD got out to the internet fine, after install, I only get Server Not Found.01:18
longwaveGecko: i am sure there is more info about this in the apache documentation01:18
jribcomputerex: reinstall why?  Just use recovery mode from the grub menu01:18
computerexthis is XP. Had to reinstall everything. wow. Talk about playing with OSs01:18
computerexI didn't know anything about this, so I reinstalled XP  ( Corrected Spelling ) 01:18
computerexI didnt know anything about this, so I reinstalled XP01:18
cmatheso1does anyone know how to force java to not use the GNOME look and feel? it doesn't work right w/ my gtk-engine01:18
longwaveGecko: also try http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#cert-real01:18
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Fred21Hello01:18
computerexBTW, when first installing ubuntu, do I install in OEM mode or text mode?01:19
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Fred21i've this problem01:19
don_jrI have no sound, I have an integrated sound board, how can I correct this?01:19
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longwavecomputerex: are you installing from the alternate cd? you want text mode in that case01:19
Fred21i've the problem about the update on 21th august01:19
computerexYes. Alternative file01:19
MrFeetiohow do i make a login screen?01:19
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Fred21i followed the instruction with sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core01:19
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BackemanHi! Is there a way to fetch data that were on the harddrive before a reformat? I had the same fs before as I have no (ext3).01:20
Fred21but i never can't be able to log me01:20
AbstHey01:20
AbstI just fully switched to Ubuntu! Windows is gone!01:20
jribFred21: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue seen this?01:20
Fred21help me if possible01:20
longwaveFred21: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue01:20
Fred21longwave: i followed the instructions but it can't work01:20
longwavecongratulations Abst!01:20
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AbstThanks01:20
Fred21longwave: i use be.archive.ubuntu.com and belgacom as mirrors01:20
AbstI'm really liking it. And I think Linux is simpler than windows01:21
Jack_SparrowBackeman: Not without special tools01:21
don_jrAnyone know how to get my sound to work?01:21
computerexYep. I am getting this one step at a time. Before, I couldnt even run the setup. Now, the whole install went perfect, except I got stuck on the prompt for password. Hopefully, this time it will get me all the way through. Thanks for the help. Might be back ;)01:21
AbstApart from install stuff, haven't got the hand of that yet01:21
VVraithis there any list for recommended hardware or such?  I am looking for a supported Sata Raid controller that I could use with ubuntu01:21
gre1is there a way to check for open ports in my firewall?01:21
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AbstErm01:21
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AbstLemme find that website01:21
UPCI am getting errors installing with Synaptic01:21
VVraithgre1, use a port scanner01:21
BackemanJack_Sparrow: I saw a post on ubuntuforums about testdisk, Im trying that now. Do you have another one in mind? Is it hard?01:21
Jack_Sparrowdon_jr: WHat onboard sound do you have?01:21
longwaveFred21: i thought all the mirrors were updated by now. you could try using the US or GB mirrors for now, then switch back after you fix that package01:21
gre1what a good port scanner?01:21
UPCE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly01:21
UPCA package failed to install. Trying to recover:01:21
Backemangre1: nmap01:22
don_jrJack_Sparrow how can I find that out?01:22
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Absthttp://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd201:22
AbstPort scanner01:22
Jack_SparrowBackeman: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/01:22
AbstI think01:22
UPCHow can I fix that?01:22
don_jrUPC sudo dpkg --configure -a01:22
Fred21longwave: i must use gb or us mirrors? are there updated?01:22
Jack_Sparrowdon_jr: Look in your manual, look up your motherboad model online..01:23
VVraithbackeman, there is another famous port scanner, can you think of it?01:23
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longwaveFred21: i thought every mirror was updated by now, but i know the GB and US mirrors are definitely updated, so try those for now01:23
VVraithi'm drawing a brain fart01:23
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ezioBoa noite!01:23
longwaveVVraith: nessus?01:23
jribVVraith: nmap?01:23
Fred21longwave: i use be.archive.ubuntu.com, there is an update for xserve01:23
ezioAlgum do Brasil?01:24
jrib!br01:24
Fred21but when i reboot the computer, i can't be able to log me01:24
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.01:24
longwaveFred21: ok, have you done "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"?01:24
VVraithno, neither of those01:24
NullVectorquick simple question, whats a good program to rip audio cd's with? preferably in ogg with a respectable player?01:24
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Fred21longwave: before apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ofcourse ;-)01:24
BackemanVVraith: Uhh, nope. I have just used nmap the few times I have used a portscanner...01:24
VVraithman, now I am gonna be all preoccupied till I think of it01:24
longwavenmap, shields up and nessus are the only ones i can think of right now :)01:25
VVraithoh, nm, I'm thinking of Ethereal, but that is a packet sniffer, sorry01:25
mikeconceptshow do I join an xgl channel from xchat, have an xgl related question01:25
Jack_Sparrowshieldsup is what I use01:25
VVraithok, how can I find a supported sata raid controller that works with ubuntu?01:25
Fred21longwave: i made sudo apt-get update before apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ;-)01:25
Jack_Sparrowgibson research01:25
longwavemikeconcepts: /join #ubuntu-xgl01:25
Absthttp://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd201:25
squellyCan anyone help me get get my network conection working?01:25
AbstShields up01:25
mikeconceptssquelly: thx01:26
longwaveFred21: so it still does not work after the latest update?01:26
Jack_Sparrow!raid > VVraith01:26
Fred21longwave: it doesn't work after update01:26
NullVectorcan amaroK rip cd's and convert to ogg?01:26
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VVraithty jack01:27
Jack_Sparrownp01:28
longwaveFred21: do you know which version of the package you have now? if you have xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 installed, that is the newest working version...01:28
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don_jrJack_Sparrow from what I can find it's a Camino2 integrated sound card01:28
Fred21longwave: what's the command to know it?01:29
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longwaveFred21: "dpkg -s xserver-xorg-core"01:29
AbstIs there any listing of apt-get stuff sorted by category (e.g. games, code)?01:30
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Fred21longwave: can you see if a server is update? i use ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be01:30
neeophyteI can play mp3 file on desktop running ubuntu (opens Totem) but can't get that file to play from xChat... can someone help?01:31
sysdocBackeman, The two basic tools to help you would be dump2s and debug2fs.01:31
jribAbst: synaptic lists them by category, packages.ubuntu.com if you want web01:31
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AbstSynaptic is ALL apt-get?01:31
Fred21longwave: i see the last update are 29august on mirror of skynet01:31
vgeAbst: try synaptic, it lists paggages by category01:31
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UPCdon_jr::: I got some bus error.01:31
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longwaveFred21: yes, that has the latest deb01:32
longwaveFred21: ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb01:32
UPCdon_jr: in the terminal01:32
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Jack_Sparrowupc he is gone01:33
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brendonjtKia ora  one and all01:33
squellyDoes a typical fresh install have web access?01:33
Jack_Sparrowfyi that looks like INtel chipset... ac9701:33
beemonkWhat app would read .pls files ? (playlists from shoutcast)01:33
longwaveFred21: is it the same error that is on http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue ?01:33
Fred21longwave: yes01:33
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: yes unless wireless problems01:33
brendonjtsquelly:  umm yip  v01:33
UPCnuts01:34
longwavesquelly: if you have a wired network, yes. wireless may need some configuring01:34
Fred21longwave: is be.archive.ubuntu.com updated too?01:34
UPCanyone else have any ideas?01:34
longwaveFred21: yes01:34
squellyJack_Sparrow: I'm using a wired nic, the live CD worked fine, the install doesnt get out.01:34
Fred21longwave: the update doesn't work here :-(01:35
neeophyteanyone?01:35
Fred21longwave: i've the update and reboot with ctrl+alt+del01:35
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: and no other changes... odd...01:35
beemonk:/01:35
Fred21longwave: the error msg will be display after the reboot01:35
brendonjtbeemonk: umm not sure but i think  and app that can read .pls (amarok, xmms, xine)01:35
Fred21!mp301:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:36
squellyJack_SParrow: right, no other changes. just clicked install from the working live CD.01:36
Fred21!aac01:36
beemonkah Rythmbox can, sorry01:36
Jack_SparrowUPC: what are you trying to install01:36
beemonkthanks brendonjt01:36
brendonjtbeemonk: no worries01:36
NullVectorany suggestions on what program can rip adudio cd's and convert to ogg at the same time?01:37
silentjgnomebaker?01:37
Jack_SparrowNullVector: check out grip01:37
Jack_Sparrow!grip01:37
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ubotugrip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number01:37
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Fred21longwave: why doesn't work after the update?01:38
jribNullVector: sound juicer as well01:38
longwavesquelly: is there only one network card in that computer? what does system > administration > networking say?01:38
wsgAnyone know are there any issues on a USB based system, no PS/2 Keyborad or Mouse support01:38
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: I'm still trying to think as to what the problem may be.01:38
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longwaveFred21: sorry,  i don't know. i thought all the problems were fixed with the newest update, but maybe not...01:38
silentj"I have a question, If I wanted to save my installed files and stuff as like a backup so I can put all my settings and apps onto a diffedrent computer or incase of a hard drive crash I could have a back up, is there a way to do that???01:38
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longwave!backup01:39
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi01:39
AbstWhen I try to use Xmms it says my soundcard is in use/not configured. When I use Totem it plays fine, aswell as the ubuntu welcome music01:39
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Fred21longwave: if i remove the package (xserver-xorg-core) and reinstall it again, i will be mut to update it after?01:39
squellylongwave: right, only one network card. IN the connections it says 'eth0 The interface eth0 is active"01:39
jribAbst: go to xmms' preferences and tell it to use alsa01:39
AbstOkay01:39
longwaveFred21: you can try that, but i am not sure it will make any difference01:39
AbstIll try that01:39
brendonjtadst: i have found xmms not very stable i use amarok  for my media it is great01:40
gabriel_epa01:40
gabriel_quienes son01:40
gabriel_soy venezolano01:40
Abstbrendonjt: I'll download and try that too, thanks01:40
Fred21longwave: i will try, i will be back to say informations.. thank you very much01:40
Fred21see you..01:40
longwavesquelly: what is on the other end of the ethernet cable? a cable/dsl home router or something else?01:40
ubuntuhi, sorry, complete newb here, could anyone tell me if it's possible to read a windows xp formatted hard drive using an ubuntu live cd01:40
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brendonjtadst: amarok uses the xine engine01:40
squellylongwave: verizon FIOS router.01:40
dr_willisubuntu yes.01:40
fallingdutchwohoooooo, got ubuntu running on en ecrypted hd :)01:40
wsgubuntu mount the drive01:41
NullVectorjack_Sparrow: Grip bug fix, how do I find my hd number? my File system is labeled on the SATA Drive01:41
ubuntudr willis how? i don't know where to go from file system01:41
silentjIs there a way to download the whole Ubuntu Wikki? So I can like look for whaver I want without being online??01:41
steph291hi Guys !01:41
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0" will renew the IP address for eth001:41
brendonjtfallingdutch:  what you mean on a encrypted hdd01:41
ubuntui'm trying to browse the hard drive like i would in windows explorer. how do i mount?01:41
Jack_SparrowNullVector: it should be cdrom  Zero01:41
dr_willisubuntu http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume01:42
steph291I have a question :01:42
Warboubuntu: It should appear as a desktop icon. If not try Places>Computer01:42
NullVectorthat n, i need X01:42
longwavesquelly: okay, i don't know much about fios. try what Jack_Sparrow said, then type "ifconfig" at a terminal and put the output in a pastebin for us to see01:42
fallingdutchbrendonjt, encrypted with sha256, using cryptsetup luks  dm-crypt01:42
silentjubuntu you can sure01:42
silentjyou just have to mount it01:42
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silentjbut if its ntfs you cant write to it which sucks ass01:42
Jamminpotatoif i compile firefox for my own use will it make it faster or does that only work for the kernel?01:42
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steph291does ubuntu : support dual-display ?01:43
WarboJamminpotato: Try swiftfox. They apparently compile it for speed01:43
dr_willisJamminpotato,  i doubt if its worth the effort.01:43
longwaveJamminpotato: you almost definitely won't notice any difference in speed01:43
fallingdutchsteph291, yes01:43
wheelswitchis there any one around who uses network manager?01:43
brendonjtfallingdutch:  so you encrypted your hdd  when you installed ubuntu  is it on a desktop or lappy01:43
Jack_SparrowNullVector: system admin disks01:43
ubuntuthanks silentj, i'll google for how to mount a drive in linux01:43
dr_willissteph291,  you can set up 2 displays. but theres no auto-set-up-tools for it. (that i know of)01:43
steph291FallingDutch : automatic ?01:43
squellylongwave , Jack_Sparrow: OK, I'll try now. dunno what a pastebin is, tho' sorry.01:43
longwave!paste01:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:43
Jamminpotatothanks Warbo01:43
fallingdutchbrendonjt, yes, installed the ubuntu onto the encrypted hd, its a lappy01:43
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StoneNoteJamminpotato, you can make firefox a bit faster by doing this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_load_Web_site_faster_in_Mozilla_Firefox01:43
silentjubuntu sudo mount /media/whatever01:43
fallingdutchsteph291, in my case by using the nvidia driver, which supports it01:43
Jack_Sparrowthanks longwave01:43
steph291thanks01:43
ladydoorJamminpotato: plus there's swiftfox01:43
Warboubuntu: http://tldp.org is useful. But Ubuntu help is on http://help.ubuntu.com/community01:43
wickersHow can I get OOo to remember my language settings?01:44
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Jack_Sparrow!pastebin01:44
dbeHow can I figure out if I use a Intel Centrino or Intel Centurion processor, cat /proc/cpuinfo just says: model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz01:44
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VVraithjack_sparrow:  the article seems to be for ppl doing raid0 and I can't figure out if they are doing fresh installs or are adding the raid0 after the initial install.  I want to do raid1 as a fresh install.01:44
JamminpotatoStoneNote, i did those tweaks back in like 0.801:44
dr_willisi thought Centrino was the  marketing name for the cpu+chipset01:44
JuhazVVraith, "centrino" or "centurion" isn't a processor01:44
longwavedr_willis: that's right01:44
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steph291is there a howto to set my dual-display ?01:44
wheelswitchany one who uses network manager, what is your start up command (you can find it in system>preferences>sessions>startup programs)01:44
tomcatt!ubotu wireless01:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:44
wsgI am getting ready to try UBUNTU on a Hyprethreaded system, a small step for me, moved from a P4 2.8 to a 3.0 ghz P4 with hyperthreading ....01:44
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wickerswsg, don't hold your breath.01:45
VVraithJuhaz, I didn't say that :)01:45
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dr_willissteph291,  i found a Gentoo Wiki Page - and used their examples.. Search for "Twinview"01:45
Jack_SparrowVVraith: I dont run raid, all I had was the link01:45
squellyJack_Sparrow: sudo ifup eth0 said: "No working leases in persistent database"01:45
Jamminpotatowhere could i find swift fox?01:45
tomcatt!ubotu wifi01:45
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:45
JuhazVVraith, oops, sorry.01:45
wsgwickers i know, I have done UBUNTU on 64 bit, now that was a Large step, and improvement01:45
Jamminpotato!ubotu swiftfox > Jamminpotato01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
steph291damn, there's a lot of action in here ! I like it01:45
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Tiger-zhi, has anyone got lm-sensors working with Gigabyte 965p-DS3 mobo?01:45
tryggWhat was the link to howto get xgl working on ubuntu?01:46
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steph291remembering me of the old days with rh :)))01:46
wsgsteph291 I am impressed by the UBUNTU channel, actualy has growen larger than Debian.01:46
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: what did ifconfig say?01:46
fallingdutchsteph291, what kind of card do you have?01:46
steph291understood01:46
longwavesquelly: was there any other output other than that from ifup?01:47
brendonjtwsg:  yeah  this is a good channel01:47
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tryggI dont know if this is how, but lets try01:47
steph291Fallingdutch : voodoo5500 agp with matrox g40001:47
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Psykusanyone know how I would keep track of max uptime? I know I can use the 'uptime' command to get the current uptime01:47
wsgBeen in here on and off for 2 + years now ...01:47
Jack_Sparrow!xgl01:47
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:47
cracka12hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?01:47
Jamminpotatoanyone know a reposotoriy or where i could find swift fox01:47
longwavePsykus: check out the uptimed package01:47
squellyJack_sparrow: I got sections, one called "eth0" and one called "lo" If you want the whole thing I can retype it on this machine... Is there a particular line you want to see?01:48
Jack_Sparrow!pastebin > squelly01:48
edjuStrangest thing - on the laptop, insert a commercial data cd, Scrabble game, Netgear insallation, etc, and it's mounted and is read w/o a hitch.  Insert a Linux livcd, knoppix, ubuntu, etc. and ubuntu sees it as a blank cd.  Mount OK on a desktop machine.  Anybody w/ a hint?01:48
steph291I'm not sure yet if I will hd install ...01:48
wheelswitch!NETWORKMANAGER01:48
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager01:48
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fallingdutchsteph291, i have one card with two outputs .... dont know how to do it with two cards ... but it doesn't depend on ubuntu it depends on xorg ... search for dualdisplay and xorg - i found how to do it with my card with these words, too :-)01:48
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Fred21re01:48
Fred21longwave: re01:48
phasegenanyone try installing on a machine with raid?  Particularly with promise fastrax?01:48
Fred21longwave: the problem is the sam01:48
Psykuslongwave, thanks, exactly what I was looking for :)01:48
steph291they call that twinview01:48
longwavesquelly: in the eth0 section, what does it say on the "inet addr" line?01:49
cracka12phasegen: you trying to raid your boot drive?01:49
Fred21longwave: the update can't change the problem,01:49
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fallingdutchphasegen, got a soft-raid here, but only for data, not as root device01:49
squellylongwave: inet addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 in the "lo" section. That line is not present in eth001:50
Fred21the update for the problem with x doesn't work01:50
cracka12phasegen: if your going to raid everything but your boot drive other wise grub wont take it and your sol. i did that yesterday01:50
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steph291and by the way, with the live cd ubuntu, it starts in 640x480 ... really annoying01:50
cracka12hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?01:50
squellylongwave: only an inet6 addr enttry.01:50
phasegencracka12: a buddy of mine is, can he run raid while booting to an ide drive?01:50
nosseI would like to get some files from my friends trough samba, can anyone recommend some program to do that?01:50
phasegencracka12: I don't do raid...01:51
steph291this is why i'm not sure if I will hd install01:51
Psykusuptime, 5 days, 23:52:16 :D01:51
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squellyJack_Sparrow: If the pastebin is something you want, it's trapped on the computer with the nonworking card. not sure how I would get it to you.01:51
jjjjjjjgot a problem.... i am running ubuntu on a mac.  can realplayer work on this platform?01:51
cracka12phasegen: yea that should work perfectly fine i run on just 10 gig then i raid0 a couple of 40's01:51
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cracka12phasegen: for data01:51
Jack_Sparrowsquelly: no.. that is ok... I am done for the day anyhow01:52
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fallingdutchphasegen, you can even use a raid as root-dev but have to play with the initial ramdisk  ....01:52
Fred21is there someone has the probleme with the update on 21th august about x1101:52
phasegencracka12: that's what he wants to do... cool.  Thanks.01:52
steph291doing it by hand ? (dual display) is not fun01:52
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squellyJack_SParrow: OK. THanks for the help so far.01:52
Jack_Sparrownp01:52
nahojargh. my sound just dissapeard after update??01:52
cracka12phasegen: yup just figured all that crap out yesterday too :) haha01:52
Fred21i made the update but xserver can't be started ;-(01:52
longwavesquelly: type "dmesg | grep eth0" to see if there are any kernel messages about your network card01:52
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cracka12hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?01:53
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AbstHaha01:53
Abstapt-get install cowsay01:53
phasegencracka12  fallingdutch   Thank You both.01:53
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Jack_Sparrowsteph291:  You know how to setup dual monitors manually but NOT how to change the default res ?01:53
longwavesquelly: ahhh, actually, do you know if your router needs PPPoE to work? googling for verizon fios suggests it does..01:53
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Psykusalso, can someone tell me how to remove the automatically detected device for my wireless card? it doesn't work right, and I think it's conflicting with ndiswrapper when I try to use it01:54
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nossejjjjjjj: what do you need realplayer for?01:54
fallingdutchhow do i again change my kblayout and my language?01:54
Jack_Sparrowlongwave: not to mention port forwarding..  :)01:54
Psykusthere's a link on the wiki that supposedly has how to do it, but the link is dead01:54
Fred21longwave: when i type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core it say "you've the latest update"01:54
ubuntu_hi, i'm wondering how i can drop files on a folder that's shared on a windows computer on this network... on KDE it was just smb://192.168.0.whatever01:54
steph291Captain Jack Sparrow : No I don't know how to set taht up manually01:54
steph291in mandriva : it works right away01:55
Jack_SparrowstephI just say you telling someone it was not fun, I assumed you had some sort of personal experience01:55
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longwaveFred21: i dont know why your X still isn't working, you have the latest package. do you know what video card or driver you are using?01:55
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Jamminpotatoswiftfox is faster01:55
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steph291yes I have :\01:55
squellylongwave: eth0 Xircom Carbus adapter.... eth0 link is up running at 100Mbit, half duplex ...eth0 noIPV6 routers present ... eth0 Link is up running at 100Mbit half duplex ...eth0 no IPV6 routers present ... eth0 MII transceiver #0 config 3100 status 7809 advertising 01el01:55
fallingdutchubuntu_, you can mount the share with mount -t smbfs //192.whaterver/share /mnt/wherever01:55
Fred21longwave: nvidia01:55
ubuntu_thanks, fallingdutch01:56
silentjDoes anyone know of a good chess game for Ubin2?01:56
fallingdutchubuntu_, np01:56
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silentjI got this Xboard but it sux01:56
Fred21longwave: i've a nvidia geforce4 mx 440 with nvidia driver01:56
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ladydoorsilentj: emacs-chess (if you already use emacs, lol)01:57
fallingdutchFred21, are there some [EE]  lines when you start X?01:57
owen_my rhythmbox is not playing any music... i installed the mp3 codecs, it detects them, but doesnt play them, it just displays the name real quick, than stops...01:57
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MrFeetiohi i wanted to know how to make it so while im playing music system sounds dont play01:58
Fred21fallingdutch: i've the error msg "x server ..."01:58
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Fred21the same msg in the website of ubuntu about update of xserver01:58
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steph291Dual-Display in Linux is pain ... when you have to tweak the x config... ah man01:58
fallingdutchFred21, go to a console (ctrl+alt+F2) and run "startx" and check for lines with [EE] 01:58
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Fred21ok i'm seeing, i will back01:59
Jack_Sparrow!twinview01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
steph291check the logs when having prob. with X01:59
zerokarmaleftmy network connection is erratic after configuring it for a static ip01:59
Jamminpotatoanyone here use swiftfox01:59
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fallingdutchsteph291, it is running very smooth here ;)02:00
owen_!codecs02:00
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:00
ubuntu_fallingdutch: "sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.105/Share-Hansy /mnt/wherever" is giving errors, it says wrong fs type, bad option, or bad superblock ...could this be related to the fact that i'm on a live CD?02:00
zerokarmaleftabout every 30 minutes, everything i'm doing network-related times out02:00
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MrFeetiozerokarmaleft:i had similar problems but i just rest the router and restarted the computer and things got better02:00
steph291Fallingdutch : send me your xorg config02:00
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cracka12hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?02:00
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Jamminpotatono swiftFox users?02:00
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Mieki'm having problems running most games, i get an error similar to "Could not initialize SDL Video subsystem: No I/O port permissions."02:01
david1234FINALLY02:01
sysdocJamminpotato, I'm using it02:01
david1234yeah yeah02:01
owen_what software can you use to convert mp3's to the vorbis format?02:01
david1234i ve been trying to get here for days02:01
fallingdutchubuntu_, you have to install smbfs02:01
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Fred21re02:01
ubuntu_okay, i'll try that02:01
fallingdutchsteph291, which card are you using?02:01
steph291Miek : xorg config need a set of lines to "set" permission for hardware accelkeration02:01
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Fred21it doesn't work :-(02:01
longwavesquelly: sorry for the delay, i've been reading up about how fios works but can't find much that's helpful. try "sudo pppoeconf" and answer any questions about your internet connection, there is possibly a bug where the live cd settings do not get saved correctly later on.02:01
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david1234question : what do i need to dowload to be able to see my windows files?02:02
Fred21when i type startx, it say can't to connectt xserver02:02
russellbI cant drag and drop icons off the application menu to the desktop. If I right click on an icon in the app menu it just lunches the program. Any ideas?02:02
steph291fallingdutch : voodoo5500 agp and pci matrox g40002:02
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squellylongwave: OK, I;ll do that now.02:02
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fallingdutchsteph291, i have only one card so i dont think you can use much of my config02:03
Fred21longwave: it doesn't work... is it possible to reinstall xserver?02:03
steph291yes02:03
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steph291I mean falllingdutch :)02:03
Fred21the update doesn't work correctly02:03
longwaveFred21: i'm not sure why it doesn't work, i don't think reinstalling X will help...02:03
david1234helloooo02:03
steph291lolll02:03
steph291a man02:03
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david1234how can i see my windows files from ubuntu?02:03
longwaveFred21: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254 - there may be something in there you can try02:04
squellylongwave: "Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access concentrator of you provider did not respond..."02:04
brendonjtdavid1234:  mount the drive02:04
Jack_Sparrow!ntfs02:04
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse02:04
Fred21longwave: my xserver is broken02:04
russellbdavid1234: on the ame computer or as a mapped drive?02:04
russellbConnect to windows shares with Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently02:05
brianprogrammerI currently Have ubuntu installed and I have a wireless network adapter, however, somebody told me that the Gnome-Network-Manager is much better than the default one that comes installed on ubuntu. How do I set this up?02:05
brianprogrammerI ran sudo apt-get install gnome-network-manager02:05
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russellbbrianprogrammer: did it install it02:06
brianprogrammeryes02:06
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brianprogrammerwhen i restarted02:06
Fred21longwave: i must reinstall ubuntu?02:06
brianprogrammerthe gnome-network-manager has an icon02:06
VVraithdo any of you know of a "pci" not "pci-x,pci64" sata hardware raid controller?02:06
brianprogrammerhowever it reports no network connection02:06
Fred21ubuntu makes a mistake and many people are in the problem :-(02:06
russellbbrianprogrammer: I have never used it before so I couldn't tell you past that02:06
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Jack_SparrowVVraith: Did you look in the supported hardware list02:07
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trygg!xgl02:07
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:07
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steph291the livecd of ubuntu : when X start: resolution is 640x480 :( pain in the a...02:07
david1234yeah is nfts02:07
fallingdutchFred21, have you seen [EE]  lines?02:07
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fallingdutchtoo late02:07
russellbI cant drag and drop icons off the application menu to the desktop. Is there a setting for this someplace?02:07
david1234before i downloaded some thing that let me see my windows drives but i dont remember02:07
Jack_Sparrowdavid1234: You could run the diskmounter script02:08
david1234wht is that?02:08
Jack_Sparrowhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter02:08
VVraithjack_sparrow: i asked if there was one earlier, but no one mentioned02:08
Jack_Sparrow!hardware02:08
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport02:08
steph291networkneiboorhood >02:08
VVraithalrighty :)02:08
steph291:\02:08
Jack_SparrowVVraith: I must have been napping  :)02:08
brendonjtrussellb: select the icon with left click,  and drag to the desktop02:08
Jamminpotatosysdoc, when you use swiftfox, does it still say firefox everywher in and on the browser?02:08
fallingdutchhow do i set my locales again? and my Kblayout?02:09
fallingdutch!kblayout02:09
russellbbrendonjt: yeah that does not work02:09
sysdocJamminpotato, no it says swiftfox02:09
russellbstrange huh02:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kblayout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:09
VVraithJack_Sparrow:  damn, I've seen that page, it doesn't include raid controllers02:09
fallingdutch!keyboard02:09
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net02:09
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Tiger-z!lm-sensors02:09
ubotulm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB02:10
^Z3D^anyone here running counterstrike source?02:10
brendonjtrussellb: i just went to the applications->internet and draged amsn  to the desktop  hold the left mouse button and drag  it to the desktop02:10
Jamminpotatosysdoc, cause i installed it and whe n i launch swift fox from the terminal it still says firefox02:10
VVraithHardwareSupportComponentsSerialATAControllers  is there, but it is not a link yet02:10
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steph291btw : it's Captain Jack Sparrow :) with a big C02:10
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VVraithsuggests it is coming, but not there yet02:10
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sysdocJamminpotato, apps>internet>swiftfox02:10
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brendonjtCaptian Jack Sparrow: ya got the black perl back yet lol02:11
fishyHow do I enable FastCGI on my Ubuntu server?02:11
Jamminpotatosysdoc, its not in there02:11
longwavesquelly: i have found a couple of old threads where people talk about that access concentrator error, but no fix02:11
russellbbrendonjt: Yeah, done it a million times in other OS's... does not work in Ubuntu for me. Fresh install too02:11
longwavesquelly: have you tried powering off the pc and router, powering the router on and waiting for it to start, then powering the pc back on?02:11
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sysdocJamminpotato, install it with Automatix02:11
Jack_SparrowVVraith: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html02:11
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russellbbrendonjt: if I right click on an app all it does it launch the app02:11
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brendonjtrussellb: hmm that weird  cos it just worked for me,  and i am using dapper LTS, fresh install a day ago02:12
squellylongwave: I tried that earlier, no joy.02:12
VVraithty again jack, lookin02:12
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brendonjtrussellb: LEFT click  not right click02:12
Jack_Sparrownp02:12
Jamminpotatosysdoc, how do i use automatix, i jsut followed the ubuntu directions on getswiftfox.com02:12
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VVraithha ha ha, I've seen that one too02:13
Jack_Sparrowsysdoc: friends dont let friends try automatix02:13
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ben````holy shit, lotsa of people02:13
longwavesquelly: sorry, i am stumped then :(02:13
sysdocJack_Sparrow, lol, worked fine for me02:13
Warbo!workedforme02:13
russellbbrendonjt: yes, just like in other OS's... not working02:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about workedforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:13
Jack_Sparrow!worksforme02:13
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.02:13
Jack_Sparrow!works02:13
mineraleHi could someoen help me setup my printer with samba? I have the printed wofking fine on my computer and samba works too. My other computer is windows, I have looked up the shared printer added, it but when I try to print I get access denied messages, how do I enable one username to print?02:13
WarboThat's the one02:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about works - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:13
sysdocJamminpotato, http://www.getautomatix.com/02:13
brendonjtCaptian Jack Sparrow: true about automatix heard it was a bit buggy and can reck havoc02:14
squellylongwave: s'ok. I appreciate you trying!02:14
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russellbbrendonjt: It should be common sense and I am sure it is but something is wrong here with my Ubuntu02:14
ben````lol02:14
sysdocJack_Sparrow, Automatix dork something up for you?02:14
longwave!automatix02:14
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.02:14
Jamminpotatosysdoc, in synaptic it shows it being installed as well02:14
ben````soundgate irc's from root, what a weird02:14
ben````er02:14
ben````*doof02:14
soundgatewhy can't I send messages in other channels? e.g. #winehq02:14
Jack_Sparrowsysdoc:  We get people in here EVERY day with systems trashed by automatix and easyubuntu02:14
brendonjtrussellb: hmm  true  sorry for shouting and snapping,  umm not sure what  you have going on there  have you done all the updates02:14
owen_what software can you use to convert mp3's to FLAC format?02:14
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brendonjtowen_: why use flac  why not ogg02:15
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cafuegowhat would be the point of doing that?02:15
Jack_Sparrowstephans: good luck.02:15
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brendonjtsteph291:  don't do that why why why02:15
inlanderfhi02:15
longwaveowen_: transcoding mp3s is never a good idea, and to flac would just be a waste of space02:15
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cafuegoowen_: When the mp3 was created, it was compressed and data was discraded. This data will not come back, ever. You'll just have a (low quality) flac eating disk space.02:16
owen_my rhythmbox is not playing mp3's for some reason, and I have them installed02:16
Jack_Sparrowsteph291 had no intention of using ubuntu02:16
russellbbrendonjt: Nope, have not updated. This is my first time with Ubuntu. I am used to Suse. Its also first time with Gnome. Im a KDE user02:16
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ladydoorowen_: though transcoding mp3s to ogg is a good idea :-)02:16
ladydoorowen_: i've never had a problem with i02:17
ladydoort02:17
Arrick_jason you here?02:17
cafuegoladydoor: No, it's an even worse diea than converting them to flac.02:17
ladydoor( sudo aptitude install mp32ogg )02:17
neeophytecan someone tell me the path to the Totem sound player app ?02:17
Arrickcafuego, you know much about vmware in windows?02:17
Jack_Sparrowrussellb: You may be more comfortable in Kubuntu02:17
brendonjtrussellb: ok  umm do all your updates  as it might help02:17
ladydoorcafuego: uhhh...why? ogg is higher quality than mp302:17
Jack_Sparrowrussellb: with Kubuntu02:17
ladydoorcafuego: and i've never had a probelem with it02:17
cafuegoladydoor: Not if your source matrial is mp3.02:17
red|rainneeja, its /usr/bin/totem02:17
russellbI found if I right click on a desktop Icon and choose creat New -> launcher then I can make an Icon on my desktop02:17
sysdocJack_Sparrow, well I didn't try to install the nvidia driver, but it seems to do fine with everything else. And that is unusual for this laptop. Seems everything with this box needs the longest most convoluted methods to get things installed..02:17
longwaveladydoor: there is still a quality loss doing that, compared to taking the original cd straight to ogg. you may as well keep them as mp3 unless you don't want to install things from multiverse for some reason :)02:17
russellbI am wanting to learn gnome more02:17
cafuegoladydoor: Converting from lossy -> lossy = 2xlossy.02:17
Xenguyneeophyte: type: which totem02:18
russellbthanks for are your help!02:18
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cracka12hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?02:18
Jack_Sparrowsysdoc: np, it is just that we do try to discourage automatix and easyubuntu02:18
owen_alright so ogg vorbis and flac is only recommended if coming straight from the cd right?02:18
Arrickdoes anyone here know how to turn of a device driver in vmware on windows?02:18
neeophyteRed|rain tks02:18
cafuegoArrick: No, but a bit about windows in vmware ;-)02:18
anthonylongwave, I sorted the language problem! CLose all OOo windows -> new document -> alter language.  That's it.  If there is another doc needed in Proper English, simply copy paste & overwrite! seems to work so far anyways!  cheers02:18
red|rainneeja, no prob ^_^02:18
Jack_Sparrowsysdoc: We seem to end up with very unhappy peoiple02:18
Arrick(i realize its a bit out of the topic here)02:18
cafuegoArrick: Probably just go to the hardware manager and disble the device.02:18
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Arrickcafuego, its not in the device manager,02:19
owen_how do i get my rhythmbox player to play the mp3's that it has in the library, it was playing them before, i have the gstreamer codecs installed...02:19
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cafuegoArrick: Services?02:19
longwaveanthony: ah yeah, that's neater than modifying the language files - good idea :)02:19
owen_then when i restarted, its not playing them anymore02:19
beemonkxchat=weird02:19
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Arrick"THe installer failed to stop the Vstor2 Virtual Storage Driver"02:19
red|rainbeemonk, whats weird about xchat?02:19
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anthonyxchat's ace02:20
_w^x_where does the mythTV package create th "myth" directory?02:20
beemonkumm, well im trying to use it like its mIRC02:20
beemonk:P02:20
_w^x_*the02:20
red|rainbeemonk, ahh icic02:20
Arrickcafuego, ^02:20
ladydoorlongwave: aha02:20
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cafuegoArrick: probably services02:20
Jack_Sparrowbeemonk:  try konversation...02:20
beemonki've just come from that lol02:20
brendonjtred|rain: xchat is good  but xchat-gnome is yuk02:20
Arrickok, just tried that, hopefully someone knows more on it02:21
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sysdocJamminpotato, if it is installed and you don't have a launcher for it in the menus, rt clk applications>edit menus, see if you can find it in there02:21
beemonkbrendonjt: reccomend = ?02:21
Amanwhere i can install C complier?02:21
mineralePlease could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?02:21
ladydoorAman: build-essential02:21
longwaveAman: install the "build-essential" package02:21
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brendonjtbeemonk: xchat  is good nice interface as well,  bitchx is good that is terminal  based02:21
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inlanderfwhat is a good gui ftp  apt02:21
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thybowhy is the dev repository of skype unavailable?02:22
Huckinlander gftp02:22
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longwaveinlanderf: just use places > connect to server in gnome?02:22
inlanderfthanks02:22
wwsebhello, have you try to setup ubuntu on macbook ?02:22
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inlanderfhow do i install it huck02:22
Hucksudo apt-get install gftp02:22
Huckyou might need repositories02:23
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inlanderfill try it02:23
foxjwilldoes anyone know how to force use of the Dapper versio nof libpoppler1 vs. the compiz version? evidently (according to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424) I need to install it to be able to install kubuntu-desktop.02:23
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judI've been having problems with my broadcom, I've now gotten to the point where I can see my wireless router in the wireless assistant program, but can't connect.  Anyone have any ideas?02:23
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fallingdutchfoxjwill, search for pinning guess the technique is in ubuntu still the same02:24
Jack_Sparrowfoxjwill: that will install the kde apps that are part of Kubuntu, you will not end up with Kubuntu02:24
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clustyi reinstalled windows and it overwrote grub02:24
TraeWhat if DMA is already 1 and you are still getting jerky playback on your DVD?  http://www.shorttext.com/93rfh02:24
fallingdutchclusty, that is normal ;)02:24
longwave!grub > clusty02:24
peteweezclusty: yeah windows is carnivorous that way02:24
clustyhow can i rewrite the MBR with grub?02:24
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thybohow do you remove amsn configurations?02:24
Jamminpotatosysdoc, like i launch swift fox and the title bar and about say firefox02:24
Jack_Sparrowjud: Port forwarding from the router comes to mind..02:24
clustyi know02:24
TraeI'm getting some odd error:  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument02:24
_w^x_who can I find out what a package will do if i install it? such as what directoriess will it create?02:24
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HeathenDanthat's to be expected clusty02:24
peteweezclusty: boot with live cd, run install-grub02:25
_w^x_where does the mythTV package create th "myth" directory?02:25
clusty!grub > clusty02:25
Jack_SparrowPeople, I need to start dinner, I will lurk for awhile02:25
HeathenDango to wiki.ubuntu.com02:25
beemonkWhats everyone using for aim/msn/* ?02:25
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thybogaim02:25
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pike_jud: if you do "sudo iwconfig ath0 essid networkname" and then "sudo dhclient ath0"    where ath0 would be your device name does it get an ip address?02:25
brendonjtbeemonk: amsn02:25
Jack_Sparrowgaim02:25
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beemonk:)02:25
_w^x_Gaim!02:25
Amanwhere i can install this: checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev ??02:25
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jmhodgesok, i've tried debugging myself, and i've checked the wiki02:25
thybomsn& aim gaim02:26
_w^x_xchat for irc or irssi02:26
longwave_w^x_: what do you expect to be stored in that directory?02:26
tlhenrygain rocks , except the webcam function is not there02:26
jmhodgesbut for the life of me, i can't figure out why my SBLive card is recognized, but refuses to play any audio02:26
Jack_Sparrow!best02:26
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.02:26
jmhodgesi went through alsamixer and everything02:26
jmhodgesi'm totally confused02:26
brendonjt_w^X_:xchat02:26
clustythanx02:26
_w^x_no02:26
_w^x_no02:26
Huckjmhodges: do you have more than one soundcard?02:26
NullVectoranyone know where I can find xgl/compiz themes, I had a site somewhere, but seems I can't find it now?02:26
jmhodgesHuck, apparently, its seeing three102:27
longwaveAman: which version of tcl do you need? there are a few versions in ubuntu02:27
thybohow do you clear cache?02:27
jmhodgesHuck, but sblive is showing to aplay as snd card 002:27
foxjwilljack_sparrow: than, how do i install kubuntu?02:27
_w^x_I'm asking about where the ubuntu provided mythTV package creates the myth directory...02:27
Huckjmhodges: can you disable onboard sound thorugh your mobo?02:27
Amani need tcl to use amsn 0.96R02:27
longwavethybo: what cache?02:27
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jmhodgesHuck, erm, thats a good question02:27
longwave_w^x_: yes, what exactly is that directory for?02:27
thyboapt02:27
Huckjmhodges: hang on a sec, I just wenth thorugh something similar myself.02:27
foxjwill(sorry, i was afk)02:27
jmhodgesHuck, cool, thanks02:27
_w^x_longwave, the media that you record I thing02:27
longwave_w^x_: is it part of the mythtv back end, front end or database?02:28
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foxjwillJack_Sparrow: than, how do i install kubuntu?02:29
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fallingdutchnight all02:29
_w^x_nevermind02:29
brendonjtfoxjwill: download the kubuntu .iso02:29
foxjwilleven though i already have dapper w/ gnome?02:29
longwavefoxjwill: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"02:30
foxjwilldoes anyone know how to force use of the Dapper versio nof libpoppler1 vs. the compiz version? evidently (according to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424) I need to install it to be able to install kubuntu-desktop.02:30
foxjwillthat's what i posted earlier02:30
brendonjtlongwave:  opps  will that  just download the kde desktop and required files?02:30
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longwavebrendonjt: yes, and install them so you can choose kde as a desktop (works the same for xubuntu-desktop, too)02:31
peteweezfoxjwill: you need to force the version02:31
peteweezfoxjwill: do you have synaptic?02:31
jjjjjjjnosse:  i need realplayer to watch big brother.02:31
foxjwillpeteweez: yes02:31
Aman!tcl02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:31
longwavefoxjwill: i suggest you remove compiz for now, install kde, then reinstall compiz02:31
Huckjmhodges: go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=sound+driver+order  and look for this: Configuring default soundcards / stopping multiple soundcards from switching02:32
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foxjwilllongwave: ok02:32
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jmhodgesHuck, ahhhh.. hmmm02:32
longwavefoxjwill: maybe #ubuntu-xgl will have more help as they can deal better with xgl/compiz questions02:32
peteweezfoxjwill, select force version on one of the menus02:32
brendonjtaman: have you tried in synamptic?02:32
Aman!tkc02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tkc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
Huckjmhodges: it makes sure that the right driver loads first, so you can specify which soundcard runs at boot... worked for me02:32
Larynxy002:32
Skuz`hello02:32
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brendonjtskuz':hello02:32
jmhodgesHuck, cool, i'll make sure this is all good02:33
jmhodgesHuck, thanks102:33
Huckjmhodges: i hope that helps02:33
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Hucksure~!02:33
Skuz`can anyone help me setup xgl and compiz on my 9800?02:33
longwaveAman: try "sudo apt-get install tcl-8.4-dev tk-8.4-dev imlib1-dev" to install the tcl/tk and imlib dev packages, they look like they are needed for amsn02:33
Skuz`x.org module for ati is installed02:33
Jamminpotatoi used the ATI driver Skuz`02:33
Skuz` I followed an online tut i found and it didnt work02:33
Jamminpotatothe standard open on on my 9800pro02:33
Skuz`i've got xgl and compiz installed02:33
Jamminpotatoubuntu or kubuntu?02:33
Skuz`but they wont run02:33
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Skuz`ubuntu02:33
longwave!xgl02:34
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:34
HLMis it possible to install Ubuntu without Firefox?02:34
foxjwillpeteweez: it worked!02:34
Skuz`HLM just remove firefox when you're done02:34
JamminpotatoHLM, jsut remove it in synaptic02:34
Skuz`but why would you want too02:34
brendonjtlongwave:  when  you use synamptic  or apt-get it installs those dependices for you, well that is what i have found02:34
peteweezfoxjwill: AWESOME!02:34
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HLMthanks02:34
longwavebrendonjt: but Aman is trying to compile amsn, so he needs those dev packages02:34
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digivorecan anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?02:34
JamminpotatoSkuz`, maybe hlm wants to install swiftfox isntead?02:34
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jjjjjjjmeh... typical linux chat room help.02:35
longwavebrendonjt: apt-get will install dependencies for binary packages, though02:35
angel12hey guys, i cant connect to my wifi using an atmel card on  afresh install of ubuntu. am i missing something?02:35
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dr_willisI often wonder how trustworty things like swiftfox are.02:35
Skuz`lol02:35
brendonjtlongwave:  ok that must be where i get confussed02:35
digivoreswiftfox!  thats it!02:35
Jamminpotatodr_willis, liek personal information or crashing stem trustworthy?02:35
Jamminpotatodigivore, ????????02:35
dr_willisJamminpotato,  like slamming the web servers and  causing problems trustworty02:35
digivorethats the program i was trying to think of02:36
Jamminpotatohow does it slam webserers? dr_willis02:36
longwavedoes swiftfox actually make any difference? firefox is fast enough for me anyway!02:36
dr_willislongwave,  thats also a good question02:36
digivoreno  never mind  thats not it.02:36
Jamminpotatolongwave, firefox was a little slower on linux then i was used to in windows, so i'm using swiftfox now02:36
dr_willisJamminpotato,  ive heard of some other firefox tweeks that  aparently open more connections to web servers and do other 'things' that are not exactly according to the  specs. :)02:37
Skuz`anyone mind helping me w/ a line for fstab for an NTFS drive?02:37
dr_willisI dont even know how you Test/prove the speeds of the things.02:37
Skuz`i need the options part02:37
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PsykusJamminpotato, are you using the firefox that comes with ubuntu? the one with just the globe icon?02:37
dr_willishttp://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume     - for all your NTFS needs02:37
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pike_Skuz`: i normally just put defaults,umask=000 in the options line i think02:37
dr_willishas details on all the options and what ones you may want to use.02:37
digivorerepository installer programs?   any options?02:37
Psykusthat one is always slow for me, I always install the version from mozilla.org02:38
digivoreanyone?02:38
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Skuz`000?02:38
Skuz`i dont want to write to the drive02:38
pike_Skuz`: thats just read access02:38
longwaveSkuz`: i use "ro,umask=0222"02:38
cafuegoSkuz`: You wont, because the driver can't. Just mount it 'ro'.02:38
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eliranHello02:38
mineralePlease could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?02:38
qatsiok, now my xgl is working great...im amazed of how it works :D02:38
Akkard_3Hi02:38
_wallHello02:38
jonkrihi! i'm sorry that i can't be more specific but this is all i got... when my friend tries to install ubuntu the ubuntu installation logo comes up and then it crashes... i know this must be hard for your to guess but do you have any idea why this might happen?02:38
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AbstThis may seem like a silly request, but does anyone have a suggestion for a good game on apt-get?02:38
dr_willisAbst,  frozen-bubble, slune,02:39
AbstOkay02:39
AbstIll try them now02:39
MERLiiNsup02:39
dr_willisAbst,  several tron clones. :P02:39
AbstThe list is lonng02:39
beemonkewww02:39
Huckjonkri: try burning a new disk02:39
AbstCool02:39
longwaveAbst: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games ?02:39
beemonkthe fonts for aMSN are yucky02:39
dr_willisAbst,  depends on the kind of games ya like.02:39
beemonkwhere can i get some smooth looking fonts? :P02:39
AbstI'm looking at packages.02:39
_wallyou tell me02:39
JamminpotatoPsykus, yea im using the default ubuntu one02:39
eliransecret02:39
Akkard_3fun02:39
jonkriHuck, you don't think it might be hardware related?02:39
MERLiiN??02:39
jonkriHuck, that is, computer component hardware related :P02:40
Huckjonkri: it's hard to say, but that's where I'd start. I've had problems with disks before02:40
thyboanyone got a link to install a webcam?02:40
jonkriHuck, i see. thank you02:40
thyboeasycam2 doesn't work with me02:40
JamminpotatoPsykus, is it not the best version or somethin02:40
Jamminpotatog?02:40
PsykusJamminpotato, i'd recommend following the tutorial on the ubuntu wiki to install the "new firefox" (back when the one with ubuntu was an old version)02:40
longwavejonkri: what do you mean the logo comes up? do you get the grub menu at the start? what is the last thing it says before it crashes? what hardware (desktop/laptop, ram size) are you installing on?02:41
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PsykusJamminpotato, the one you can get from mozilla.org is a lot faster, at least in my experience02:41
Jamminpotatogotchya02:41
Psykusplus you get the nifty firefox logo/icon :PO02:41
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jonkrilongwave, hehe, i realize now i'm even more pathetic than i thought ... :) i don't know02:42
Psykus:P02:42
Skuz`anyone have a step by step instruction page for using xgl/compiz on ati hardware?02:42
JamminpotatoPsykus, so what is different between the ubuntu one and the mozilla one?02:42
inlanderfwhy I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site02:42
Skuz`the link that was given to me for xgl was nothing more than a synopsis02:42
digivoreis there a specific name for programs like 'adept' and 'synaptic'?02:42
longwavejonkri: it's pretty hard to help without knowing basic details like that, there are many possible causes and fixes ;)02:42
sethkJamminpotato, usually the mozilla one is a bit newer02:42
PsykusJamminpotato, i'm not sure exactly, apart from the icon, but it's faster02:42
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inlanderfwhy I can't i open the ftp folder when I try to go to my ftp site02:43
longwaveSkuz`: did you follow the links in that synopsis? they tell you how to install the individual parts - xgl or aiglx, then compiz02:43
jonkrilongwave, obviously :)02:43
Arrickpermissions,02:43
SewarIs there any Glade 3 packages for 6.06?02:44
MasqyHi all, I have an ubuntu installation question02:44
Arrickread, browse02:44
Skuz`longwave,  i didnt get your link apparently02:44
longwave!xgl02:44
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:44
Skuz`the one i was given just told me what it was02:44
Skuz`yeah that doesnt help me buddy02:44
Skuz`the only installation link on there is for nvidia02:44
Skuz`which does me no good02:44
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Skuz`i've got both installed02:44
Skuz`the software its self that is02:44
Arrickinlanderf, permissions, and the browse setting02:44
longwave#ubuntu-xgl can help better with xgl questions than we can..02:44
Skuz`okay02:44
inlanderfexplain please02:45
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wickersHow can I get OOo to remember my language settings?02:45
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wickerslike the language to use when spell checking.02:45
MasqyI would like to install a new version of an application which exists in ubuntu, but to retain the original one, that is, I actually want 2 versions of the same application installed. What is the simplest way to achieve that?02:45
longwavewickers: this is a bug in openoffice (someone asked about this just an hour ago!)02:45
wickers:(02:45
buzzygirlhello02:45
longwavewickers: the easy workaround is to open a new document, set the language, save that document, then copy it every time you want to start a new document after that02:46
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wickersWell it is set to english canadian by default because that's what I selected when I installed ubuntu... so clearly it's getting it's settings from somewhere...02:46
brendonjthello buzzygirl02:46
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D-Man`I get GStreamer encountered a general resource error when trying to play mp3 file on desktop02:46
longwavewickers: yes, this is similar to what we found earlier, but neither of us could find any real fix02:46
wickersWhere does ubuntu store installation settings for reference?02:46
D-Man`been reading various google and other docs till I can't see straight02:46
longwavewickers: there are several configuration files, it depends on the application that is being configured, but /var/log/installer is a good start02:47
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D-Man`yes:  I've tried adding the various recommended gstreamer plug-ins  any way to get things back to DEFAULT status?02:48
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MasqyHi all, is there a way to install another version of the same program in ubuntu? (while not running over the older one)02:48
buzzygirlHi brendonjt02:48
sagarphow can i get ndiswrapper to load at startup?02:48
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jikutydo you guys think it's worth it to install Ubuntu to an old AMD 450MHz PC?02:48
Here_comes_me_64Here I am02:48
jikutyor will it run like shit?02:48
sethkjikuty, it will be tolerable02:49
inlanderfwhy I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site02:49
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sethkjikuty, probably a good idea to choose a low overhead desktop, possibly fluxbox02:49
jikutyi see02:49
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pianoboy3333anyone wanna see one of the funniest error messages? http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/Banshee_Error.jpg02:49
pianoboy3333oops02:49
Bisonhow can i run a memtest from the livecd?02:49
jikutyill give it a try .. the pc is just collecting dust right now anyways :D02:49
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pianoboy3333http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/Banshee_Error.png everyone02:49
Jamminpotato450mhz should be good with xfce too, i got gnome on myne but it wasnt too slow, not too fast either, but yea xubuntu ftw jikuty02:50
longwavewickers: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/35936 is the openoffice bug in launchpad but there is not much there :(02:50
Skuz`if i'm getting 260 - 320fps in glxgears on a 9800pro, are the proper drivers installed and working?02:50
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longwaveMasqy: probably not easily, what program are you talking about and why do you want two versions at once?02:50
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buzzygirljikuty: have you looked into damn small linux?02:50
jikutynope02:51
buzzygirlXubuntu might work on that old puter too02:51
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inlanderfwhy I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site02:51
jikutyi just got the idea to install linux on it now :P02:51
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longwaveinlanderf: does it work on an ftp program on another computer or on windows?02:51
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buzzygirlLinux can make the most of an old computer02:51
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inlanderfyes02:51
Masqylongwave: The newest version of VLC, decodes WMV3 format, but it is still buggy regarding subtitles.  I want to watch movies with subtitles, and to be able to watch live TV via 0.8.5 (0.8.4 is the current version)02:51
jikutythat's what I figured :D02:51
inlanderfin windows02:51
buzzygirlDamn Small might work quite well for this!02:52
archaiosuse mplayer02:52
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Red-SoxTroubles02:52
buzzygirlCheck into it: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/02:52
jikutyalright, ill check it out02:52
hou5tonI did the first part of the following recommendation, but don't know how to do the second ... install a program called network-manager-gnome, then disable the built-in networking utility that comes with Ubuntu.02:52
buzzygirl50 megabytes of penguin power! LOL02:52
inlanderfI can get to the site and there is a folder on my desktop, but it wont open02:52
jikuty!02:52
jikuty50 mb!!02:52
Masqylongwave: specifically, when you pause the movie, the subtitles which were displatyed at the same time disappear after a few seconds02:52
Red-SoxThe installer freezes everytime after 'Starting partitioner' on ONE of my boxes, works on the others02:52
jikutylol02:52
longwaveMasqy: ah i see. unfortunately i don't know of any easy way around that without compiling one version from source and installing it in a different directory...02:52
buzzygirlHeh,02:53
hou5tonHow do I disable the built-in networking utility that came with Ubuntu?02:53
buzzygirljikuty, have you had other Linux experience?02:53
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Alejandr0Hola a todos...02:53
inlanderfhola elex02:53
jikutywow -- that is amazing02:53
jikutyat the moment, I'm dualbooted with debian02:53
jikutybut, I installed it mainly just to fool around.. I don't use it seriously.02:54
Masqylongwave: is there a way to install it "localy", that is , not to install, just keep the files in my home dir at, say /home/masqy/vlc ?02:54
buzzygirlOld computers are FUN02:54
brendonjtjikuty: he could try using the alturnitive install cd  instead of the live version02:54
longwave!es02:54
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:54
buzzygirlyou can mess around with them and not worry too much about breaking them02:54
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jikutyyeah, that's what I'm intending02:54
buzzygirlI'm using a throwaway computer from work...02:54
jmhodgesok, that didnt do it02:54
jikutyim gonna first install Ubuntu, and check what the performance is like02:54
jmhodgesi've even tossed /dev/random at my only /dev/dsp02:54
Here_comes_me_64:P02:54
mineralePlease could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?02:54
jmhodgesnothing comes out :-/02:54
jikutyotherwise, I'm going to go into DSL, or Xubuntu02:54
buzzygirl... they just gave it to me. It's got a 700 MHz Celeron processor with 256 mb of memory02:54
jmhodgesand it works in my windows install02:55
jikutyyou can do a lot with 700MHz02:55
inlanderf I can get to the ftp site and there is a folder on my desktop, but it wont open02:55
sethkbuzzygirl, if you are in the u.s. you'll have to report it as income02:55
peteweezminerale: I don't know a lot about that, but there are a lot of good guides...look it up on google.02:55
sethkbuzzygirl, at least theoretically  :)02:55
buzzygirlUbuntu requires 256 MB of memory to install via the Live CD... I could not get it to work when this computer had only 128 MB.02:55
buzzygirlsethk: heheh! I wish I had 700 million of something02:55
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longwaveMasqy: the problem is there are so many files in a vlc install that i don't think it would work as simply as that, i'm sure it expects certain files to be in fixed directories that you won't be able to change without recompiling02:56
peteweezminerale, also check #tapthru and #debian02:56
longwaveMasqy: how are you installing the newer version anyway? i'm assuming it isn't in the repository yet02:56
Masqylongwave: there is an ubuntu package at the VLC main site.02:56
buzzygirlXubuntu works better on systems with smaller hardware capabilities02:56
jikutyalright- I think ill give that a try02:56
jikuty128mb ram , 1.4 gb .. not bad02:56
buzzygirlCool, jikuty, I wish you luck!02:57
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jikutythanks :)02:57
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jikutyim gonna download it now02:57
Kragnerac:)02:57
MasqyIongwave: I've installed it, and then uninstalled it again, ( I prefer my subtitles than some TV)02:57
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Here_comes_me_64Hi everyone02:57
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buzzygirljikuty: those specs are probably fine for Xubuntu02:57
buzzygirlgo fer it heheh!02:57
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joltAnyone ever have issues with printing PDF's.. first page comes out fine, rest just confuse the heck out of the printer02:57
Masqylongwave: yes, it is still considered "unstable" but the files I installed are from May 2006.02:57
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Here_comes_me_64I have a question02:58
jmhodgesHuck, no go :-/02:58
jikutybuzzygirl: great :D02:58
Masqylongwave: (the 0.8.5)02:58
jikutyin the meantime, I'm going to set up this dusty pc02:58
soundgatewhat is ncurses for?02:58
jikutyno need to format in advance, correct?02:58
jikutythe software should just handle that for me?02:58
longwaveMasqy: i can't see an easy way round this, though there may be some advanced dpkg/apt-get magic you can do that will help here02:58
Here_comes_me_64Is there anyway to get virtual Video Memory?02:58
dr_willisncurses is for console-time-interface-design and neat tricks. :P02:58
joltAlso. Has anyone sucessfully run the live installer on the current Edgy build without it crashing?02:58
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dr_willisconsole type interface/tricks. :P  Like 'mc' uses.02:58
buzzygirlno, if you want to install Ubuntu (Xubuntu) as the sole OS, it'll ask you in advance02:59
soundgateis ncurses-5.5 the latest version?02:59
Masqyif I compile, which file will it run when I simply type 'vlc a.avi' ?02:59
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buzzygirlBRB02:59
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longwaveMasqy: by default it would run the version you installed from a package; when compiling you would have to set a flag to install the new version in another directory. then you would run it with "/path/to/new/vlc a.avi"02:59
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gotamaHi There! Has anyone succeeded in installing the scanner Epson Perfection 1270?03:00
mindjujuso what do i do if I try to install courier-authmysql and I see that i've spelled it right in packages.ubuntu.com but when i type sudo apt-get install courier-authmysql  it says it can't find the package?03:00
Jamminpotatojikuty, you might want to try xubuntu even if ubuntu works fine...i use XFCE because i like it more then GNOME thus i use xubuntu not ubuntu, even though  i could run eitehr03:00
Masqyhow do I set the install dir for a compiled one?03:00
silverwizardHey, question Re SIP softphone clients especially SJphone, anyone know of an easy install for SJphone (alien seems to have failed me) or a better SIP client?03:00
Masqylongwave:03:00
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buzzygirlback03:00
UPCJack_Sparrow: Sorry about not responding, was out meeting apartment neighbors03:00
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UPCanything I try to install messes up03:00
longwaveMasqy: instead of just ./configure, i think you need "./configure --prefix=/path/to/install" - but vlc is quite complex, you may have to read the documentation03:01
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jmhodgesim going crazy trying to figure out why my sound doesnt work in ubuntu03:01
HeathenDanme too, lol03:01
joltHeh i should go get the RX320 command line app from Debian Repositories if i can figure out why PDF's tend to spaz the printer03:01
Masqylongwave: well, it might be a good practice for me, I've already compiled amule before drapper03:02
jmhodgesfor some reason, its saying i have a CIrrus Logic card03:02
jmhodgesbut i dont103:02
jmhodgesi even disabled my AC97 card on my mobo03:02
soundgatewhat is DESTDIR?03:02
jmhodgessoundgate, destination directory03:02
Masqylongwave: which path is accepted as 'default' for your own compilations?03:02
jmhodgessoundgate, where you want stuff to go03:02
joltIt might be confusing the AC97 on your motherboard even if its disabled jm03:02
Masqyand besides, I think I'll have to compile and install both wxvlc, vlc-plugin-alsa and vlc at the same time, or so.03:02
jmhodgesjolt, well, before i disabled it, it had the mobo card as another snd card103:03
jmhodgesso there were three on the list!03:03
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jolt*eyeroll*.03:03
longwaveMasqy: generally things you compile yourself go in /usr/local, but this may be in your path and may get confused with the other version of vlc (which will have a prefix of /usr)03:03
jmhodgesjolt, cha03:03
Masqygeneral question: how do I check if a specifice package is installed in my system ?03:03
longwaveMasqy: dpkg -l packagename03:03
mindjujuwhat do i do if I try to install courier-authmysql and I see that i've spelled it right in packages.ubuntu.com but when i type sudo apt-get install courier-authmysql  it says it can't find the package?03:04
longwave!info courier-authmysql03:04
ubotucourier-authmysql: Courier Mail Server - MySQL authentication. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.47-13ubuntu5.1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 188 kB03:04
longwavemindjuju: do you have the universe repository enabled?03:04
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soundgateI get this message "make: ***No rule specified and no makefile found" when I typed this "make DESTDIR=/usr/local". any idea?03:05
mindjujui don't, but just pulled up an FAQ on enabling other repository03:05
silverwizardanyone know of a good SIP phone available as a Debian Package?03:05
dubiagoanyone know what the default password for root is? i realized when i installed from the Live CD that it never asked me to set a root password03:05
longwavesoundgate: presumably there is no Makefile in the current directory03:05
joltPre Ubuntu, i had problems myself with Knoppix keeping thinking my AV-710 was a Ice1616 and not a 162403:05
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longwavedubiago: there is no password for root, you should use sudo instead03:05
W_McLsilverwizard: what's about ekiga? it's installed by default03:05
joltActually now i look at it OSS tried to instal the 1616 driver03:05
silverwizardIt seems to only hit one proxy03:06
Skuz`anyone know of a repository that has beep media player on it?03:06
Skuz`or if not, xmms?03:06
UPCanyone have ideas on how to fix installation problems?03:06
silverwizardI want to use an account that already exists, is there a way for it to go through a prexisting one?03:06
soundgatebut there's a file named Makefile.in in it03:06
jrib!info beep-media-player03:06
ubotubeep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 3592 kB03:06
silverwizardSkuz, universe has it03:06
Masqyand how can I check if a certain library is installed i.e. libdvbpsi ?03:06
jribSkuz`: universe has bmp03:06
jrib!universe > Skuz`03:06
Skuz`oh i was searching for pkg bmp03:06
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silverwizardApplications>Add/Remove should have both under Sound and Video03:07
Skuz`not beep-media-player03:07
jolthave you tried adduser from the command line silverwizard?03:07
longwaveMasqy: the same way, libraries are installed as packages03:07
TennesseeIs anyone here using Edgy?03:07
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jribSkuz`: yeah, that is why.  xmms is in main by the way03:07
jrib!edgy03:07
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule03:07
joltit will *see* the previous user directory03:07
longwaveMasqy: you can also use "whereis libdvbpsi" for example03:07
silverwizardNo, I will check it out (new to SIP et all)03:07
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Skuz`i couldnt find it lol03:07
Skuz`or apt couldnt03:07
TennesseeI'm seriously considering upgrading, but would prefer not to break my desktop. But I would like some of the new packages.03:07
TennesseeI'm on dapper now.03:07
jribTennessee: #ubuntu+1 can help you better probably03:08
soundgatelongwave: but there's a Makefile.in in my current directory03:08
longwaveTennessee: there is always the possibility an edgy install will break after any upgrade03:08
Jack_SparrowTennessee:  one word... backup...03:08
joltSilver. Nix what i said...03:08
longwavesoundgate: no, Makefiles are just called Makefile. have you run ./configure yet? that usually creates a Makefile for you03:08
sethksoundgate, you need to do ./configure first, that will create your makefile03:08
Skuz`awsome03:08
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joltthought you were trying to create an account on the system for a user that already existed03:08
Skuz`is bmp-mp3 availible?03:08
soundgateoh03:08
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Jack_Sparrow!mp303:09
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:09
pianoboy3333What does the -j2 tag on make do? Is it good for a hyperthreaded computer/03:09
pianoboy3333?03:09
DarkTowerIs dapper fully stable for use or are people having problems?03:09
hawkaloogieDarkTower, no problems as of yet for me03:09
Masqy"Please note that the installation (make install command) is not mandatory. You can execute VLC from where you compiled it.", well, it seems it is not so dangerous to at least try to compile it03:09
sethkpianoboy3333, depends whether there is any discoverable parallelism03:09
brendonjtdarktower:  it is fully stable haven't had any problems here03:09
sethkpianoboy3333, can't hurt03:09
TennesseeDarkTower: It's pretty good. Just the usual things that crop up with every stable release on the planet from time to time.03:10
Skuz`one last noob question guys, how do i kill x? do i just go into init 3 ?03:10
sethkpianoboy3333, but use a higher number than 203:10
pianoboy3333sethk: in gnome-system-monitor it shows 2 cpus03:10
Skuz`or is there an easier way03:10
Jack_SparrowDarkTower: dapper is stable03:10
soundgateso after ./configure I could now type "make DESTDIR=/usr/local"?03:10
Skuz`i dont want to loose whats open basically03:10
cafuegopianoboy3333: I normally use number of cpus times 203:10
sethkSkuz`, ubuntu's levels are different.  X is on for levels 2 and above03:10
Jack_SparrowDarkTower: Most injuries are self inflicted.. :)03:10
cafuegopianoboy3333: So -j 4 on a box with two CPUs.03:10
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jmhodgessomebody shoot me03:10
Skuz`sethk,  oh okay03:10
sethkpianoboy3333, that doesn't imply that you shouldn't run more than two processes03:10
DarkTowerThanks all, i think i will upgrade then.03:10
pianoboy3333cafuego: well, my box is hyperthreaded though03:10
Skuz`sethk, you know a way i can kill x without rebooting?03:10
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cafuegopianoboy3333: Try and see.03:10
sethkSkuz`, sure, init 103:10
pianoboy3333won't that like, make my box go splody?03:10
Skuz`that will set single user mode yes?03:10
sethkSkuz`, or, you can edit /etc/inittab03:11
Skuz`which means everything i have open closes03:11
cafuegopianoboy3333: Nope03:11
sethkSkuz`, yes, init 1 is single user mode.03:11
Skuz`i should probobly reboot so i dont break everything03:11
ubuntucould someone please help me mount my win xp drive. i'm using ubuntu live cd03:11
Skuz`brb03:11
sethkSkuz`, to avoid that, you need to edit /etc/inittab and then perform a telinit command03:11
cafuegoRebooting is for windows users.03:11
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jmhodgesok03:11
mindjujulongwave, that was the prob.  thx for the help03:11
sethkskuz`which isn't hard to do, and isn't hard to revert, but if you don't mind rebooting, and it's easier for you ...03:11
Jack_Sparrow!mount03:11
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks03:11
jmhodgesdoes anyone know why /dev/dsp would show up, but not even cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp would make noise?03:11
cafuegosethk: he's gone03:11
brendonjtcafuego: i agree with you there  every 5 min isn't it lol03:12
sethkcafuego, I give my best advise to people who are gone  :)03:12
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soundgatedoes anyone here uses wine?03:12
Jack_Sparrowno03:12
cafuegosethk: These kids today get tooe xcited and never let you finish your advice, so they mess up.03:12
sethkcafuego, yes, I've noticed  :)03:12
brianprogrammerI have a wireless card that works out of the box with ubuntu and I installed Gnome-Network-Manager (I was told it was better than the network manager that comes with ubuntu) but the network manager doesn't seem to recognize my device is even there (i am still connected through the other network manager).03:12
jmhodgeshell, shouldnt it be /dev/dsp0 etc?03:12
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sethkdepends on the udev configuration03:13
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jmhodgessethk, hmm.. i have one thats probably from the dapper beta period03:13
sethkjmhodges, I would expect /dev/dsp0 to be a link to /dev/dsp, anyway03:13
jmhodgesok03:13
jmhodgeswell, fsck03:13
Masqyon some sites I see two ubuntu packages, which differ on the last character, i.e.  vlc_0.8.5.final.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb and  vlc_0.8.5.final.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb. What are supposed to be the differences ?03:13
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cafuegoMasqy: The ubuntu2 has been repackaged to address an issue.03:14
jmhodgesi know its just some stupid config some where03:14
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Masqyok, thanks for the help...03:15
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Spencerhey guys where can i download a file in apt-get from a windows box?03:16
sethkSpencer, check the URL's for the repositories03:16
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Spencersethk, where would it be then?03:16
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sethkSpencer, the repositories?03:16
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plutoWho can help me with setting my refresh rate?03:16
amonkeymy system did one of those every 30 mounts hd scans and it errored out. i ran fsck -pv /dev/sda and it gave me errors about the magic number in the super-block. what do i do?03:16
eZHi all !! :-D03:16
jmhodgesalsright03:17
sethkSpencer, start at us.archive.ubuntu.com, if you are in the us03:17
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hawkaloogiesomeone help amonkey, i'm having the same problem03:17
longwaveamonkey: you should not run fsck on /dev/sda, it should be /dev/sda1 or whatever partition number the filesystem is on03:17
hawkaloogiei had to disable the hard drive for now03:17
DarkTowerCan I upgrade to dapper using the Software Update manager and just click upgrade? or is that a bad way to do it?03:17
amonkeylongwave, that makes sense03:17
hawkaloogielongwave, the partitions aren't showing up03:17
sethkamonkey, what file system?03:17
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eZi gotta stupid problem :-D but...i have no idea how to fix it :-( ..why all my icon under menus are gone ?? ..under Application or System...there's only text...as it looks Ubuntu can't find them :-(03:17
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amonkeysethk, ext3,but imay have been providing the wrong device, hang on03:18
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sethkamonkey, ok03:18
brendonjtpluto: system->pref->screen res03:18
amonkeysethk, looks to be working with correct device, my fault03:18
amonkeylongwave, that was it, thanks03:18
hawkaloogiebah!03:18
sethkamonkey, ok03:18
soundgateim trying to install ncurses. I got an error that the dir /ncurses5.5/objects/cursesf.o does not exist. how the heck can I resolve that?03:19
sethkhawkaloogie, is yours' the wrong device also?  :)03:19
amonkeylongwave, i did /dev/sda1 but it's just hanging there.'03:19
amonkeylongwave, i said verbose, shouldn't i be getting some feedback?03:19
ubuntu!mount03:19
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks03:19
sethksoundgate, you are installing it with apt-get?03:19
plutobrendonjt: I did this, but the refresh rate only goes to 75 and I want to set it at 85 (like I had under windows)03:19
hawkaloogiesethk, no, there are no partitions showing up on /dev/hdd03:19
eZcan anyone help me please.. :( ?03:19
jmhodgesdoes Dapper use OSS or ALSA by deaflut? its ALSA, right?03:19
TennesseeIs there a live CD for edgy at the moment?03:19
sethkhawkaloogie, but /dev/hdd exists?03:19
Skuz`!ntfs03:19
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:19
hawkaloogiesethk, yes03:19
soundgatesethk no I did wget.03:20
joltTenn. i got the daily build for Edgy and the Live CD installer bombs03:20
brendonjtpluto: i found that out as well03:20
sethksoundgate, you could create the directory, but I doubt that's your only issue03:20
joltRight near the end with a python error03:20
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cabulosowich one is better, easyubuntu or automatix ?03:20
hawkaloogiesethk, gparted showing all unallocated, the partition table probably got whacked meaning i probably lost all data...03:20
sethkhawkaloogie, fdisk -l /dev/hdd shows what?03:20
longwaveamonkey: fsck shouldn't hang, no. run "dmesg" in another terminal, is there any output about sda at the bottom?03:21
sethkhawkaloogie, well, remember, losing the partition table doesn't actually erase anything03:21
sethkhawkaloogie, if can be reconstructed, and if nothing else happened, all the data is still there.03:21
hawkaloogiesethk, cannot open /dev/hdd03:21
Tennesseejolt: Bummer. Just for my info, where did you get it from? I can't find anything downloadable and don't feel like risking my install at the moment...03:21
sethkhawkaloogie, try it with sudo   sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd03:21
joltTenn: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/03:21
Jack_Sparrowcabuloso: Neither are good03:21
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hawkaloogiesethk, w/ sudo: doesn't contain a valid partition table03:21
Tennesseejolt: Thanks! I'll try it just in case. If it flies, I want the new packages.03:22
amonkeylongwave, it apparently finished, no messages like i was expecting. wanted me to run it without -p, it's fixing inodes with corrupted orphans or something03:22
longwaveTennessee, jolt: for the record i installed dapper in a vmware machine the other day then dist-upgraded to edgy and it seems to be working okay03:22
hawkaloogiesethk, if i knew exactly what partitions were on the disk, can i make the partition table again?03:22
sethkhawkaloogie, yes03:22
joltI shoulda done it in a VM03:22
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hawkaloogiesethk, parted would work for this?03:22
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sethkhawkaloogie, might, but fdisk is a lot easier03:22
Tennesseelongwave: With nvidia?03:22
hawkaloogiesethk, okay, thanks03:22
sethkhawkaloogie, do you know the partition layout?03:22
longwaveTennessee: no i haven't played with video card drivers yet03:23
hawkaloogiesethk, it was all one big ext3 partition03:23
Skuz`hmm03:23
sethkhawkaloogie, oh, that's trivial03:23
Skuz`I dont know what hdx my ntfs drive is03:23
sethkhawkaloogie, just do   sudo fdisk /dev/hdd03:23
eZplease..if someone can help me...query me..03:23
longwaveTennessee: this was just for testing in vmware to see if it would work :)03:23
Skuz`is there anyway to find out?03:23
sethkhawkaloogie, then, at the menu, create a partition, and take the default starting and stopping sectors03:23
cabulosoJack_Sparrow: what do you suggest ?03:23
sethkhawkaloogie, select primary, partition 103:23
corndog_I'm having full system freezes when burning CD's through k3d and gnomebaker. I am able to burn via nautilus... I've followed this guide but I'm still having issues http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217472&highlight=cd+burner+driver03:24
Jack_Sparrowcabuloso: what are you trying to do?03:24
sethkhawkaloogie, if it asks for the type, linux which is I believe hex 8203:24
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Tennesseelongwave: no worries. I'd just go for it, but if I root my system, I won't be too popular here at work while I'm taking downtime to fix it.03:24
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hawkaloogiesethk, 82 is swap, 83 is linux03:24
cabulosoJack_Sparrow: did a fresh install and need multimedia support and stuff...03:24
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sethkhawkaloogie, ok, I always get those backwards, but the menu will tell you03:25
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hawkaloogiesethk, but 85 is "linux extended" huh?03:25
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EroickHey, has anyone used Fruity Loops or a simular program (synth)? Is there a simular program for Linux that lets you lay down drum lines and melodies?03:25
sethkhawkaloogie, not what you want03:25
Jack_Sparrowcabuloso: drop in the live cd and click on install03:25
sethkhawkaloogie, unlikely that it is extended, although some brain dead automatic partitioners do that03:25
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Skuz`how can i figure out what /dev one of my unmounted hard drives is?03:25
hawkaloogiesethk, okay, so it's that definition of "extended"03:25
hawkaloogiesethk, didn't ask for a partition type, does it use 83 by default?03:26
Jack_Sparrowcabuloso: THe bot has breat info on mp3 and other restricted formats03:26
Jack_Sparrow!mp303:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:26
sethkhawkaloogie, because of an absurd decision by IBM and microsoft many years ago, there is only space for four real (primary) partitions03:26
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hawkaloogiesethk, yeah, that's the extended thing03:26
sethkhawkaloogie, yes, the default type should be linux.  do p  (print) to display the partition table and make sure it says 8303:26
sethkhawkaloogie, right, to get more than four, you create on "extended" partition, and create logical partitions within it03:26
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hawkaloogiesethk, okay, then "w" for write03:27
sethkhawkaloogie, that's foolish if you have four or fewer partitions03:27
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sethkhawkaloogie, right03:27
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sethkhawkaloogie, if it doesn't look right, we can create an extended partition, and then a logical partition for the entire drive, but I think primary is more likely so try that first03:27
sethkhawkaloogie, you'll want to do a _read only_ fsck after saving the partition table.03:27
amonkeylongwave, fsck -yv /dev/sda1 cleared it all up, thanks03:27
sethkhawkaloogie, don't try to mount it, as that writes03:27
hawkaloogiesethk, okay, was wondering why it still shows no partitions03:28
sethkhawkaloogie, it doesn't, I hope.  :)03:28
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jmhodgeswoot!03:28
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sethkhawkaloogie, you mean you didn't realize you had to display again, I assume03:28
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jmhodgesi just had to check the IEC* stuff towards the end of my alsa thing03:28
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hawkaloogiesethk, no, i tried ls -l /dev/hdd* and only showed the device, no partitions03:29
brianprogrammerHi03:29
sethkhawkaloogie, after doing the w in fdisk?03:29
Eroickso is there a program that lets you do technoish synth?03:29
hawkaloogiesethk, yes03:29
brianprogrammerI am wondering how I get the signal strength to properly show up with the network monitor applet03:29
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sethkhawkaloogie, that's a very bad sign03:29
sethkhawkaloogie, something is seriously wrong there03:29
longwavebrianprogrammer: some network drivers do not yet support signal strength readings, so it may not be possible03:29
hawkaloogiesethk, as i surmised, yay maxtor03:30
sethkhawkaloogie, is this an old drive?03:30
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amonkeyi'm at the Disks Manager in gnome, but when i goto the partitions tab on my new drive, the 'create' button is greyed out. what do i do?03:30
brianprogrammerlongwave, brian@DFK1811:~$ iwconfig03:30
brianprogrammerlo        no wireless extensions.03:30
brianprogrammerwlan0     IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"T7r56bY2pGF9X"  Nickname:"okuwlan"03:30
brianprogrammer          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: 00:06:25:97:B9:4403:30
brianprogrammer          Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm03:30
brianprogrammer          Retry limit:8   RTS thr=1536 B   Fragment thr=1536 B03:30
brianprogrammer          Power Management:off03:30
brianprogrammer          Link Quality=0/0  Signal level=105/255  Noise level=0/003:30
brianprogrammer          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:003:30
brianprogrammer          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:003:30
longwave!paste03:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:30
brianprogrammereth0      no wireless extensions.03:30
brianprogrammersit0      no wireless extensions.03:30
aaronI'm having an issue with my Dapper router/server machine.  It provides DNS and DHCP via dnsmasq, and NAT via Guidedog.  When any of the machines on the internal network run Bittorrent, somewhere within 5 minutes to 1 hour the machine will lock hard, refusing to come out of screensaver.  The ram checks good in memtest...anyone have experience with this issue?03:30
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hawkaloogiesethk, younger than the WD 40gig and Maxtor 120 gig03:30
brianprogrammeroops sorry about that03:30
hawkaloogiesethk, (and the WD 40 gig has a broken pin...)03:30
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sethkhawkaloogie, try dumping out the SMART data for the drive, sounds like a hardware issue03:31
brianprogrammerif i run iwconfig03:31
brianprogrammeri get a signal strength reported03:31
brianprogrammerSignal level=105/25503:31
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longwavebrianprogrammer: "link quality" is the signal strength that the network applet displays, that is the strength reading03:31
sethkhawkaloogie, you could exchange some cables to make sure it isn't an IDE interface issue.03:31
sethkhawkaloogie, that's unlikely, but possible03:31
brianprogrammeris there any way to get it to display the one that says "signal level" ?03:31
hawkaloogiesethk, unlikely, the slave is still working fine03:31
pluto Can anyone recommend a good book  to help.  I'd like to learn more about what can be done from the command line and shells.03:31
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sethkhawkaloogie, forget that, then03:32
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hawkaloogiesethk, i think i'll just give up on it03:32
NullVectoranyone know how i can change teh font color of my task bars/panels?03:32
sethkhawkaloogie, do check that if it's an EIDE cable, both drives are jumpered for cable select03:32
KragneracHello, Is there anyway to get virtual Video Memory?03:32
brianprogrammerBecause my adapter doesn't report the link quality, however it reports the values to signal level03:32
hawkaloogiesethk, if that was bad it would show up in bios and the device wouldn't be anywhere03:32
sethkKragnerac, there are a very few graphics adapters that can do it.03:32
longwavebrianprogrammer: not that i know of, if there is nothing in the applet properties then i doubt it03:32
warbuscommandopluto, I found "Linux In a Nutshell" to be rather helpful, but it's more of a reference than a walkthrough03:32
Meezyo, having problems playing flac files in quod libet, trying to install gstreamer-flac, but get a "E: Package gstreamer-flac has no installation candidate", oh, and I'm on dapper, any ideas?03:32
angel12do atmel cards need the firmware in dapper?03:32
sethkhawkaloogie, not necessarily.  I've seen cases where the result was similar to what you are describing03:32
Masqyhas someone here copiled VLC recently? Should I really compile&install ~15 other packages before I can compile VLC?03:33
naliothbrianprogrammer: please read the /topic when you enter a channel on IRC.  It's usually the first thing you see upon entering a channel.03:33
hawkaloogiesethk, weird. would it spontaneously manifest after an fsck?03:33
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sethkhawkaloogie, not that part, the part of writing the partition table and then not seeing it.  If the drive used to work, I'd say you are correct.03:33
NullVectorMasqy - VLC is in the add remove programs03:33
longwaveMasqy: you can probably install the -dev packages for those unless they are specific vlc 0.8.5 versions03:34
plutowarbuscommand: Thanks.03:34
hawkaloogiesethk, final question: i've heard seagate is the most reliable drives on the market, any opin?03:34
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sethkhawkaloogie, my experience is that all the vendors have bad runs occasionally.03:34
MasqyNullVector: thanks,I know : )03:34
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longwavehawkaloogie: that's a loaded question, there is no one bad manufacturer :)03:34
hawkaloogiesure there is, maxtor03:35
sethkhawkaloogie, I've not personally had problems with seagate, and I have with maxtor and wd, but my sample size is too small to mean anything03:35
Masqylongwave: they say that only the official ones on their site are supported, but I'll try to install whatever I can with the apt-get03:35
longwavehawkaloogie: i have two dead seagate drives and two working maxtor ones, so that's not my experience ;)03:35
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hawkaloogietake a larger sample size and i've seen more people have problems with maxtor than any other brand, followed by WD, followed by seagate03:35
mhenning8Can anyone help me with getting wireless to work on my laptop with UBUNTU?03:35
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angel12mhenning8, what wireless chip do you have?03:35
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hawkaloogielongwave, c'est la vie and caveat emptor i guess, but i've got an ancient wd drive that's my main workhorse still going strong, perhaps they've earned my respect03:36
hawkaloogiethanks again all03:36
mhenning8Dell wireless 1350 it's a dell inspiron 600m03:36
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sethkhawkaloogie, wd has had some awful runs03:36
angel12mhenning8, its a broadcom 43xx chip03:36
HarksawSo everything I've read says that to take advantage of both my cores on my Pentium D for folding@home, I need to install the folding@home client twice, in two different directories. When i try to do this, it says it03:37
Harksawit's already installed and wont install again. Ideas?03:37
angel12mhenning8, there are a few decent guides on the forums, i havent set one up in a long time, not since the drivers were cracked.03:37
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longwaveangel12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper03:38
jikutyalrighty-- xubuntu is being installed on that old pc03:38
goldenflawhello, anyone have the following problem? 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001c (rev 01) from lspci03:38
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longwaveangel12: that guide (or an earlier version of it) worked well for my bcm43xx chip03:38
angel12longwave, not me, mhenning803:38
Supremacyanyone use widgets in here?03:38
amonkeyi just formated a 460gb partition with xfs in about 2 seconds. is this normal? i expected it to take much much longer.03:38
sethkgoldenflaw, that's not a problem03:38
damn_hothello room, ive got a problem with ubuntu, my friend gave me this ubuntu CD v6.06 LTS and after i setup and install ubuntu on a seperate partition, the installion finishes and restart the system, after it boots, i choose ubunto from the boot options and when ubuntu came, it asks me for username & pass, but when i enter the user name and pass during ubuntu setup it says, username/password mismatch ... what is wrong with this ?03:38
longwaveoh, sorry :)03:38
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longwavemhenning8: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper03:38
goldenflawseth: what is it?03:38
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goldenflawsethk: my wireless doesn't work anyhow I believe it has something to do with that?03:39
sethkgoldenflaw, a normal lspci output line03:39
sethkgoldenflaw, no, nothing at all to do with that03:39
mhenning8Wow, that looks pretty helpfull longwave, surprised I did not stumble into that earlier today :)03:39
sethkgoldenflaw, all that means is that it looked up the vendor and device ids and didn't find them in it's database03:39
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mhenning8I will beat on it with this, and Ill check back if I still have problems03:39
sethkgoldenflaw, which happens for lots of newer hardware03:39
goldenflawsethk: ahh, I see03:39
longwavemhenning8: it worked well for me; you probably want the "new broadcom driver" route rather than ndiswrapper03:39
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goldenflawsethk: I have a MacBook, I can receive packets from wireless source, but can't, for some reason, send packets03:40
longwavemhenning8: and yes, feel free to come back and ask if you get stuck with it :)03:40
goldenflawsethk: Any idea?03:40
sethkgoldenflaw, encryption key mismatch, perhaps?03:40
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goldenflawsethk: what does that mean? :P03:41
goldenflawsethk: rather, how do I fix that?03:41
inlanderfanyone experience with deploying os commerce03:41
longwavedamn_hot: are you 100% sure you're typing the username and password you set? what was the username? were there any "special characters" (other than numbers or english letters) in the password?03:41
sethkgoldenflaw, what do you mean exactly by the statement that you can receive but not send?03:41
angel12does anyone here use an atmel card with dapper?03:41
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Masqybut isn't there a way to install another 'installation tree' program, to which it shall be possible to install any package without affecting your system?03:42
damn_hotlongwave: on my left screen there is * Options and in the right screen there is server // Wed, Aug 30 time03:42
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damn_hoti am 100 % the username and my password is correct03:42
sethkMasqy, you can have two installs on the same box.  You can have two root file systems, which is what you mean I think03:42
sethkMasqy, and you can use chroot to select one, and updates will not impact the other03:42
goldenflawsethk: when I check the "connection property", there's Activity that describes the received and sent packets, only the received packets number increases, the sent packets remains null03:42
longwaveMasqy: you could read up about "chroot jails"03:42
sethkgoldenflaw, that can be because of a key mismatch.  You'll receive, because you are not asking for a key, but the access point won't ack you, because the key doesn't match.03:43
Masqysethk, longwave: why jails?03:43
goldenflawsethk: how do I proceed do fix a key mismatch?03:43
sethkMasqy, the name "jail" is intended to convey to you that changes in one part can't "escape" to the other part03:43
inlanderfanyone experience with deploying os commerce03:43
goldenflawto*03:44
Supremacyanyone use widgets in here?03:44
sethkgoldenflaw, set the key.  :)  People here can tell you how.03:44
goldenflawsethk: thanks :P03:44
damn_hotits my first time running Ubuntu and i cant login from the 1st boot :( ... i think ubuntu is not meant for me :p03:44
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goldenflawHow may I fix a key mismatch (wireless)?03:45
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brianprogrammerHi, how can I get the source for the gnome network monitor applet?03:45
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sethkgoldenflaw, ask the more generic question, "how do I set my key"03:45
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damn_hotoh! longwave it says "The system administrator is not allowed to login from this screen."03:45
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angel12well, i keep trying to get an ip on my atmel wifi card and i cant get one.03:46
goldenflawHow do I set my key?03:46
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damn_hothello?03:47
brendonjthello03:47
TheGamehello03:47
Huckhello03:47
hawkaloogiegoodbye03:47
longwavebrianprogrammer: "apt-get source gnome-netstatus-applet"03:47
TheGameHey!03:47
goldenflawMay anyone help me set my key?03:47
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brianprogrammerand then what would I do to modify view/modify the source?03:48
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brianprogrammerwhere would it be located?03:48
Supremacyi guess not03:48
TheGamegoldenflaw: what key03:48
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goldenflawTheGame: wireless key i believe03:48
zxcI have a FAT32 Partition..where would it be in Ubuntu?03:48
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TheGamewireless key for what?03:48
sethkTheGame, he means the wireless ethernet key03:49
brendonjtzxc:is it mounted?03:49
TheGameoh03:49
zxcbrendonjt: I don't know :/03:49
Rookie-[03:45]  <damn_hot> oh! longwave it says "The system administrator is not allowed to login from this screen." <<--- sounds like windows ... *grins evily*03:49
TheGameso basically he needs network-manager?03:49
Huckzxc look for /dev/hdd or /dev/hdd1 would probably be something like that..03:49
brendonjtzxc:it would more than likely have to be mounted03:49
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damn_hotRookie- : it is not windows... it is unbuntu login screen.03:50
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goldenflawTheGame: It's at the library, for some reason, I can only receive packets, but not send them03:50
damn_hotand that message was exactly what ubuntu says.03:50
Rookie-ohh? hmm ... root not allowed .. ? hmmm03:50
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TheGameur at the library goldenflaw ?03:50
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zxcbrendonjt: How can I mount it? (I can see it in /dev/desk/by-label but I can't access it)03:50
goldenflawTheGame: no, I am at home right now03:50
sethkdamn_hot, lot in as other than root, then use sudo or su03:51
TheGameso i dont understand what u want to do03:51
TheGameu want to setup wireless?03:51
brendonjthuck: i've had problems with  mounting fat32  it has to mounted ubuntu  does'nt  mount  them by default03:51
goldenflawTheGame: yes, so it works when I am at my library03:51
TheGameoh ok03:51
TheGamewhat computer r u running ubuntu on03:51
damn_hotsethk, then what will the password be for sudo03:51
sethkdamn_hot, the user's (not root, the logged in user's) password03:51
brendonjtzxc:what is the partition or drive ie hdb1 hdb2 hda2 hda3 etc03:52
sethkdamn_hot, which makes no sense, I know, but that's how it is set up.03:52
damn_hotduring installation, it asks me fpr user name and password, i used that. why i cant login03:52
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goldenflawTheGame: my Laptop, MacBook03:53
sethkdamn_hot, no idea.  you said you were having a problem, can't log in as root03:53
Huckbrendonjt, your right, I've followed the ubuntuguide.org in order to mount mine03:53
zxcbrendonjt: I don't know exactly...how can I check?03:53
sethkdamn_hot, what happens when you try to log in as the user/password you used?03:53
AndrukTatumon my other computer, my eth0 card isnt working, does anybody know how to configure it?03:53
damn_hotit says "incorrect username / password .. : something liek that.03:53
brendonjtzxc:system->admin->disks03:53
AndrukTatumdapper03:53
brendonjtzxc:it will list all your drives and the partitions03:54
sethkAndrukTatum, not without more information.  try ifconfig -a on the box, see if it shows up in the list03:54
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AndrukTatumsethk: ifconfig -a command not found03:55
goldenflawTheGame: 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT, if it is useful03:55
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shinta42benc, you there?03:55
sethkAndrukTatum, try  /sbin/ifconfig -a03:55
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AndrukTatumno such file or directory03:55
zxcDisc Manager is slow :/03:55
sethkAndrukTatum, sounds like networking isn't installed03:56
damn_hotsethk : after the installation is finished, the system reboots, and i choose normal ubuntu from the boot options and when then a login screen appears, is this normal on a 1st installation ?03:56
brendonjtzxc:yip itis scanning ur hdd's  and your ide ports03:56
sethkAndrukTatum, which would explain why the card doesn't show up.  although I'm curious about how you would know it doesn't show up if ifconfig isn't available03:56
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zxcbrendonjt: nvm...I'll just use windows to do it...thanks anyway though03:56
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plutoWhen I'm in a directory under my home directory and I want to return to the root direcotry, what is the easiest way to do so?03:58
sethkdamn_hot, not on the first reboot03:58
sethkdamn_hot, it should install bunches of stuff03:58
AndrukTatumsethk: im in gnome, and in the (sry, win...s term:) system tray in the upper right toolbar thing it has a networking monitor and it has a red x over it, and when i double click it, it tries to configure a ppp connection, and doesnt have an eth0 connection03:58
brendonjtpluto cd /03:58
corndog_I've finally given up on 64bit ubuntu and would like to downgrade/reinstall 32bit... any suggestions on how to backup or save my existing modifications?03:58
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AndrukTatumsethk: oh, and firefox doesnt do anything, not even my router03:59
sethkAndrukTatum, that's odd, I'm not sure how you got there.  but if ifconfig doesn't exist on the machine, something went wrong with the installation.03:59
damn_hotok... im reinstalling it again.03:59
damn_hotbbl. ^^03:59
sethkAndrukTatum, of course not, it has nowhere to send things to03:59
longwavepluto: "cd /" will take you to the root, just "cd" will take you to your home03:59
sethkAndrukTatum, double check,  do:   find / -name ifconfig         make sure it doesn't exist anywhere on the box03:59
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plutobrendonjt: thanks again!03:59
brendonjtpluto:  no worries04:00
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Huckbrendonjt, do etc3 drives get mounted automatically? just curious04:00
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brendonjthuck: umm nope  mine didn't had to edit the fstab  to do it, seems  ubuntu  just does the first ide hdd  weird though04:01
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ubuntucool04:01
ubuntuhi04:01
AndrukTatumsethk: i t couldnt access a lot of directories, so im now sudo and did it, and it taking a long time04:01
ubuntuYOooooooooo04:02
brendonjthuck: ya need a hand with that?04:02
ubuntuLinux Live Cd is shiiiiiii04:02
ubuntu:|04:02
sethkAndrukTatum, it's normal for that to take several minutes,04:02
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sethkAndrukTatum, it's a slow check but also a definitive one04:02
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brendonjtubuntu: why you say that04:02
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ubuntuerm04:02
ubuntui dono04:02
Huckbrendonjt, no, I've got FAT32 drives as internals for storage, I was just curious. Thank you though :D04:02
ubuntufirst time using linux04:02
ubuntuand im bored04:02
ubuntui messed up trying to install linux04:02
ubuntuand there was an error04:02
ubuntuso i cant load up xp =(04:03
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AndrukTatumWarning, hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched04:03
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sethkubuntu, boot windows from cd and do  fdisk/mbr04:03
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brendonjtubuntu: boot to repair console from ur winxp  and type fdisk /mbr04:03
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ubuntuwat04:03
DarkTowerThe Upgrade to04:03
DarkTowerDapper says it will remove Mysql common, does that mean i will lose all my tables?04:03
ubuntuwhat do i do04:03
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brendonjthuck: oh ok  i had fat32  but reformatted my drive to ext304:04
ubuntui dont have winxp cd with me04:04
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aukubotu, gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly04:04
Muhameri dont have win xp cd with me04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:04
aukerr04:04
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AndrukTatumsethk: Warning, hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver. automatically turning on find's -noleaf option. earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched04:04
auk!gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly04:04
brendonjtmuhamer:  ok  umm how did you stuff it up04:04
Jack_Sparrowcorndog_: You should be able to install 386 or 68604:04
Huckbrendonjt, yea, I need to share mine with windows, or I'd do the same.04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:04
RicesteamHow do I get true transparency with gnome-terminal?04:04
Muhamerumm04:04
Muhamerare u pming me04:05
Muhamerjust so i dont bother other ppl by spamming :|04:05
sethkAndrukTatum, you can ignore that, /proc is a pseudo file system04:05
CSWookieDoes the live CD not have xterm?04:05
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longwave!info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly04:05
ubotugstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 176 kB, installed size 484 kB04:05
brendonjtmuhamer:  no i'm not04:05
DarkTowerWill I lose any mysql tables in the upgrade to dapper? it says it will remove mysql common in the upgrade process04:05
Jack_SparrowMuhamer: bootdisk.com04:05
Muhamer=|04:05
CSWookieThere it is.04:05
Muhameri got 5 ppl telling me different things04:05
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Jack_Sparrow:)04:06
brendonjthuck: pitty windows doesn't do other fs  formats04:06
AndrukTatumsethk: k, no results04:06
aukMuhamer: if you're talking to me, i'm am talking to ubotu [sic] , a bot on this channel04:06
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longwaveDarkTower: you shouldn't do, the mysql-server package should own the tables - is mysql-common being replaced by a newer version?04:06
CSWookiebrendonjt: It does.04:06
Muhameru talk to bots..04:06
Muhamero04:06
Jack_Sparrow!boot04:06
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto04:06
CSWookiebrendonjt: There ae drivers for ext2, for example.04:06
Huckbrendonjt, yea, but that's the beauty of ubuntu/linux... it's "backwards" compatible :)04:06
Jack_SparrowYes we do04:06
leedI get a .patch file. So how to use it with patch command04:07
AndrukTatumubotu: will you marry me?04:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about will you marry me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:07
Muhamerw.e this isnt helping me ill wait for my friend to hel pme04:07
AndrukTatumlol04:07
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brendonjtCSwookie: ok  what i was meaning was default  would be nice04:07
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DarkTowerlongwave: thanks, yes im just checking that. it wouldnt be normal to delete tables or anything would it?04:07
edjuStrangest thing - on the laptop, insert a commercial data cd, Scrabble game, Netgear insallation, etc, and it's mounted and is read w/o a hitch.  Insert a Linux livcd, knoppix, ubuntu, etc. and ubuntu sees it as a blank cd.  Mounts OK on a desktop machine.  Anybody w/ a hint?04:07
longwaveleed: generally just cd to the folder to patch, the "patch < file.patch"04:07
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brendonjthuck: yip  that's right, even the OSx  will read ntfs/fat3204:07
longwaveDarkTower: no, it shouldn't do that at all - even if you uninstall most packages any actual data you create usually gets left behind, so you can reinstall later and it will still work04:08
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DarkTowerlongwave: thanks for the help04:08
longwaveDarkTower: if you are upgrading a previous release to dapper though, i suggest you take a backup of anything vital just in case04:08
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Psykustrying to get an FM tuner working right, using gnomeradio, and it seems to be working, tuning it to a known station shows the signal strength go to max, but I cant get any audio04:09
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leedlongwave: It ask me to give the file to patch. So what  I should give, the src file or the bin file04:09
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Psykuspoking around in alsamixer now, looking to see if anything is muted, but I have no clue what it would be called04:10
aukmp3 support is in... gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, or gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3?04:10
bintutis there an ubuntu irc channel that discusses about embedded linux?04:10
AndrukTatumsethk: any ideas?04:10
longwaveleed: what are you trying to patch? patch generally handles source code patches..04:10
sethkAndrukTatum, if it's a new installation, I would repeat the installation, as something is very wrong04:10
auk(well, i know it's in the fluendo pkg, but what's the difference from the ugly packages and why would i choose one over teh other?)04:10
sethkbintut, I don't know of one off hand.  I've done a lot of embedded work, you can pm me if you like04:10
AndrukTatumsethk: ive had this install for awhile, but i wouldnt mind reinstalling it.  ill get to it, thanks a million!04:11
leedlongwave: rox-filer. It cann't deal with the non utf8 file. It cann't work now, and it will restart my X. So I found a patch.04:11
CSWookiebrendonjt: It would be nice, but since you're but a google search away...04:12
brendonjtCSwookie: i don't use windows yuk, just ubuntu04:12
CSWookiebrendonjt: Must be rough when you have to veiw a web site in IE.04:13
brendonjtCSwookie: you got that right all those security holes, and bugs, eeeww04:13
CSWookiebrendonjt: Eh.04:14
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Psykustrying to get an FM tuner working under ubuntu, using gnomeradio, and it seems to be working, tuning it to a known station shows the signal strength go to max, but I cant get any audio..poking around in alsamixer now, not seeing anything04:15
brendonjtCSwookie: and i myself and the people that i have set up ubuntu on there machine wonder why they hadn't made the change earlier04:15
CSWookiebrendonjt: Whatever.  Just don't put it on the wubs.04:15
longwaveleed: you should probably download the source with "apt-get source rox-filer", then apply the patch, then compile it from there04:15
brendonjtCSwookie: wubs??04:15
CSWookiebrendonjt: The intarwubs.04:15
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brendonjtCSwookie: lol04:16
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CSWookieWell, lets see if fsck did the job it was designed for.04:16
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CSWookieGod protect the rocket house and all who dwell within he rocket house!04:19
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Jack_SparrowLong live the rockettes...04:19
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Skuz`anyone mind sharing a good terminal mp3 player with me?04:20
Skuz`i've got juke installed but it wont add anything to queue04:20
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Psykusanyone else in here use an fm tuner in ubuntu?04:20
Skuz`i had used one once that worked really well04:20
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AndrukTatumthey should make IE for linux, so when all the 31337 hackzorz try to find the C drive, they get nuked04:20
Skuz`lol AndrukTatum04:20
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AndrukTatumdoes anybody know if wine can run IE?04:20
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AndrukTatumbecause, i totally trust Billy Gates to secure my computer.04:21
leedlongwave: so i should download the src file, and then patch the file04:21
Jack_SparrowAndrukTatum: not the latest.. 5.5 maybe.. but WHY would you do that to a ANY pc04:21
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MuhamerAnyone here04:21
DarkMageZAndrukTatum, yeah, wine can run internet exploder, alot of web dev's have to test their stuff with it...04:21
Muhamerthat can help me04:21
bartelcan someone help me with wireless on dapper?04:21
longwaveleed: presuming the patch is for the source version, yes04:21
bartelim getting Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth04:21
FullerHello.04:21
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longwaveAndrukTatum: yes, there are installers for various IE versions under wine04:21
Muhamerno helpers.04:21
Muhamer=(04:21
leedlongwave: thanks04:22
FullerI was wondering if anyone could tell me the option to free up my terminal when I type sudo gedit04:22
peteweezclear04:22
bartelsudo gedit &04:22
syllogismIs there a better build system then gnu auto{conf,make,header} ?04:22
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peteweezoh serialize04:22
longwaveFuller: ctrl-Z then type "bg" so gedit doesn't stop04:22
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Fullerah, the & sign. maybe that's it.04:22
shawnr_anyone know of a good java irc chan?04:22
brendonjtmuhamer:  wots your problem, we tried04:22
longwaveFuller: if you want to run commands like that you can just press alt-f2 as well04:22
syllogismbecause this is just a pain in the @$$ to setup properly04:22
Skuz`So whats a good terminal mp3 player?04:22
bartelctrl-z bg does the same thing04:22
Muhamerbren04:22
Skuz`juke isnt working out for me atm04:22
Muhamerwait04:22
Muhamer:P04:22
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Fullerhm. i'll try that too bartel and longwave.04:22
peteweezskuz: mplayer04:22
geomarcomputerscan someone please help me find an IDE SATA card supported by ubuntu ?04:23
barteldapper wireless?04:23
amonkey_my 460gb partition formatted with xfs in about 2 seconds. is this right/normal? i expected it to take longer04:23
AndrukTatumlmfao, thats really funny.  i would do that just so i could say i did04:23
Jack_Sparrow!sata04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
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Muhamerumm04:23
ladydoorSkuz`: pytone04:23
Muhameri cant go on xp04:23
Muhamerand i couldnt get linux04:23
shawnr_good ;p04:23
AndrukTatumamonkey_: ah, the power of ext3, jk, no, it should definitely take longer.04:23
Muhamercuz there was an error04:23
shawnr_not good04:23
longwaveamonkey_: presumably xfs just does a quick format to initialise an empty root directory and nothing else04:23
Muhamerand now im on linux live04:23
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brendonjtmuhamer:  what was the error?04:24
Muhameruhh brb04:24
Muhamerhave it on paper :P04:24
ladydoorSkuz`: it takes a little configurating (you can get the sample rc out of /usr/share/doc/pytone and edit it), but it works great and is pretty04:24
MuhamerReboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key04:24
amonkey_longwave, i was able to make a file in it and read right to it04:24
Fullerhmmm...this is interesting. Now gedit doesn't seem to do anything.04:24
amonkey_longwave, what else should i do?04:24
Fullerjust hangs.04:24
eigenlambdaazureus sucks, but gnome-btdownload won't tell me which port i should foreward04:24
Skuz`ladydoor: how about one that doesnt require alot of editing to get it working :)04:24
eigenlambdaand i need to pirate windows vista prereleases04:24
eigenlambdaso04:24
longwaveamonkey_: nothing i guess, if you can mount and read/write it and "df" shows the right amount of free space04:24
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Muhamerso bren04:24
HeathenDanutorrent + wine eigenlambda04:24
longwaveFuller: did you type "bg" then press enter after ctrl-z?04:25
eigenlambdaHeathenDan: lol rite04:25
amonkey_longwave, still scary, was way to fast04:25
ladydoorSkuz`: well, to get it working you just need to tell it where your music is. the configuratin' i was referring to was just colors, keybindings, etc.04:25
Psykusi hate how wine uses the default ugly windows theme though04:25
eigenlambdaya04:25
Psykuswish it could convert it to GTK somehow04:25
Muhamerok bren isnt responding so..04:25
brendonjtmuhamer:  have you tried installing it again, where  to you try installing it to?04:25
eigenlambdayeah really04:25
Skuz`ladydoor:  ok :)04:25
ladydoorSkuz`: you might like mocp, though; on my dapper, however, it suddenly got ugly :-(04:25
Fullerlongwave: I tried gedit with the & sign first04:25
eigenlambdawould be cool to make wine do stuff like swing and look like gtk04:25
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Skuz`hmm mocp cant be found04:25
Skuz`is it avail on repos04:25
Fullerlongwave: Then after that it started to hang04:26
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longwaveFuller: it should also work with the & sign; did you get [1]  12345 or something after the command? that means the job was put in the background ok..04:26
Muhamerbren let me get my friend to answer since he did the installation so hold on04:26
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Fullerlongwave: Ah. Let me open a new terminal window and check it out.04:26
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longwaveFuller: to run commands like that you can press alt-f2 to enter a single command line04:27
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longwavethen you don't need the &04:27
Muhamerbren04:27
Muhameru there04:27
brendonjtmuhamer:  yip04:27
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Muhameri cant find gparted04:27
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eigenlambdaso i wonder04:28
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Fullerlongwave: What if the file I need to edit is in a deep directory?04:28
eigenlambdawhether azureus will like that i have dash as /bin/sh04:28
eigenlambdalol04:28
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nictukuis there any known corner case where the owner of /var/spool/postfix/defer/* directories is 'klog' instead of postfix?04:28
longwaveFuller: in that case, if you're used to the command line, the & version or ctrl-z/bg trick should work too04:28
brendonjtmuhamer:  what is the cd is it a downloaded or a pressed one from ship-it04:28
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eigenlambdai love how compiz shows that windows are frozen!04:29
longwaveFuller: if you close the terminal that you started gedit from, it might have problems though04:29
eigenlambdawould be cool if the grey was kind of blue though, and the windows got some icicles.  lol.-04:29
Muhamerbren my friends on phone can u hold on a sec04:29
Skuz`yea i need a real music player ladydoor04:29
Psykusanyone able to help me with my fm tuner question? the app (gnomeradio) seems to see and use the tuner card fine, but i'm not getting any audio04:29
Skuz`not one that takes 6 months to configure04:29
peteweezSkuz: mplayer04:29
peteweezmplayer.hu04:29
Skuz`...04:29
peteweezit's great04:29
Skuz`thats not going to do me a bit of good mate04:29
brendonjtmuhamer:  yip ok04:29
Skuz`i need a terminal mp3 player firstly :P04:30
peteweezmplayer works in terminal04:30
eigenlambdam0hid.hu04:30
longwavempg321 is pretty basic as mp3 players go04:30
eigenlambdavote for colbert04:30
eigenlambdalol04:30
Skuz`longwave:  thats the one i've used before04:30
Skuz`i liked it04:30
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MuhamerBREN04:31
MuhamerDownloaded04:31
Fullerlongwave: When I type bg, it asks for a password, but interprets my password as a command it does not recognize and then fails.04:31
peteweezeigenlambda: if you delete cookies, you can vote multiple times...i voted for colbert like 5 times04:31
eigenlambda(!)04:31
eigenlambdawo04:31
eigenlambdawow04:31
longwaveFuller: ah, that may be something to do with running sudo in the background04:32
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longwaveFuller: try using "gksudo" instead for graphical apps04:32
eigenlambdathey use cookies to determine who you are04:32
eigenlambdai am impressed04:32
peteweezyeah04:32
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MuhamerBREN04:32
Muhamerits downloaded04:32
Muhamerand i tried installing it again04:32
peteweezto make sure you only vote once04:32
eigenlambda::goes to stuff the n00bs ballot box::04:32
Muhamerand i don't remember where to04:32
longwaveFuller: of course you do not need sudo if you have permissions to write to the file anyway04:32
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Skuz`thank you longwave :)04:32
Skuz`this was the mp3 player i used before04:32
Skuz`works fine :)04:32
RicesteamWhats the difference between Quinn-Compiz and the Compiz in Synaptic?04:33
longwaveSkuz`: yep, it doesn't do much, but what it does do it does well :)04:33
brendonjtmuhamer:  in you systems bios  have you got it set to boot from that drive?04:33
peteweezeigenlambda: I think someone made a php script cuz there was a name like php-script that got a crapload of votes.04:33
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Fullerlongwave: Right. This file is running in the pygame examples directory outside of my Home though. :-)04:33
MuhamerYes04:33
Jack_Sparrowgoodnight all04:33
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redsoxfan90https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 what linux do i choose?04:34
Peloevening guys04:34
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brendonjtmuhamer:  has anyone else used that cd to install  ubuntu  or just you04:34
peteweezredsoxfan90: depends on your needs...but ubuntu & debian are the best ;-)04:34
CSWookieWhat's the port for secure mail server?  425?04:34
D0wnI need some help compiling gtk04:34
D0wnor installing04:34
longwaveFuller: if you are editing files that have been installed by an ubuntu package, i recommend copying them to somewhere in your home folder so you can edit them easier, and any future package upgrades won't overwrite your changes04:34
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redsoxfan90i have ubuntu04:35
redsoxfan90please click that link04:35
redsoxfan90to know waht im talking about :)04:35
XSahHi, I want to ask, when i download a package using apt-get install, then i want that package to use it in other computer that does not connecting to the internet, then where i will find it !!!?04:35
StoneNoteCSWookie, I think it's 46504:35
peteweezD0wn: You're really having problems with graphical libraries today, arent you?04:35
Muhamerno one else used it04:35
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D0wnYes04:35
D0wn:P04:35
peteweezI hate that.04:35
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StoneNoteCSWookie, Secure SMTP Port: 465 Secure POP3 Port: 99504:35
Fullerlongwave: True. Perhaps I will do that. Thanks for the tip.04:36
longwaveCSWookie: port 465 is the standard smtp over ssl port04:36
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D0wnI tried to compile it, but that didn't work04:36
MuhamerWAT NETWORK IS THIS04:36
D0wnI wish there was a place where i could get GTK+ in a .deb04:36
redsoxfan90XSah: how do you expect it to get files if your not on the net?04:36
peteweezD0wn: can't you use the ubuntu repository?04:36
StoneNoteMuhamer, FreeNode04:36
peteweezthey have debs04:36
D0wnIt wouldn't work04:36
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D0wnWhere?04:36
Muhamerwhat the hell is that lol04:36
nownottim trying to boot windows in ubuntu with vmware but im haveing problems can someone help me w/ this04:36
longwaveD0wn: gtk+ is available in the repositories04:36
MuhamerFreeNode?04:36
micahcowanMuhamer, do you have a question about ubuntu?04:37
Muhamerwtf04:37
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XSahredsoxfan90: i downloaded it using a one connecting to the net04:37
Muhameryes04:37
XSahthen i want to use it in another computer04:37
Psykusthere's also a TV tuner on this card...trying it out with tvtime, can't get audio working on that either04:37
Muhamerive been here for almost an hr04:37
Muhamer:|04:37
peteweezresoxfan: ok that depends what your graphics card it04:37
brendonjtstonenote:  what you think there muhamer's problem04:37
peteweez*is04:37
redsoxfan90buy  a router04:37
longwaveD0wn: you probably want libgtk2.0-dev if you're trying to compile a package that needs GTK+ 2.004:37
peteweezredsoxfan: what's your graphics card?04:37
redsoxfan90peteweez: i have radeon 200m04:37
Muhamer??04:37
D0wnWhen I do a "sudo apt-cache search gtk+" there are too many results to try to find it04:37
StoneNotebrendonjt, my esp is on the fritz so I can't tell04:37
longwaveD0wn: what exactly are you trying to do?04:38
nownottpls some help w/ vmware04:38
peteweezredsoxfan: what's your cpu?04:38
redsoxfan90im not sure04:38
D0wnI'm trying to install it so I can compile source's04:38
redsoxfan90how can i check?04:38
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wweaselXSah:" redsoxfan is being an ass. I am following your conversation because I am curious about the answer to your question.04:38
brendonjtmuhamer:  when you installed it when it came to the disk partioner what options did you set?04:38
StoneNotenownott, what's up. I use vmware04:38
peteweezredsoxfan: is it intel pentium d, athlon, what?04:38
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longwaveD0wn: if you install the libgtk2.0-dev package that gives you everything you need to compile other GTK+ 2.0 applications04:38
redsoxfan90amd sempron04:38
Muhamerffs my friend went offline hold on :|04:38
brendonjtstonenote:  i'm nearly pulling my hair out  only getting half the story04:38
redsoxfan90XSah: i honestly am not sure04:38
peteweezredsoxfan: is it 64 bit?04:38
redsoxfan90XSah: i have a router04:39
Fullerlongwave: Well. the gksudo returned an interesting message. It said: (gedit:13986): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.04:39
redsoxfan90peteweez: i think a 32 im not sure :(04:39
ladydoorD0wn: libgtk2.0-dev is, i think, the specific package name04:39
D0wnI'll try "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev"04:39
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redsoxfan90XSah: im not the world's smartest person.04:39
ladydoorFuller: itsn't that the standard gedit error? i heard there was one04:39
peteweezredsoxfan: even if it's 64, it only acts like a 64 if you got a 64 version of linux... do uname -a and tell me what it says04:39
brendonjtmuhamer:  you have to tell us the whole story  not half of it04:39
Fullerladydoor: standard gedit error?04:39
StoneNotebrendonjt, you can't force someone to communicate with you :) if he cannot state his problem in a hour then maybe that is his problem.04:39
MuhamerTHis is my computer04:40
MuhamerI let my friend install it because i didnt kno how to04:40
Muhamerso he knows everything and im trying to reach him on phone and msn but hes not on04:40
XSahi didnt say that i just want to know how to install any update or any program to one is not connecting to the internet... thats all!04:40
Peloredsoxfan90 , what kernel are you using , that will tell you if you need the i386 or x64 driver04:40
ladydoori *thought* i heard that gedit spits out an error anytime you run it with gksudo. you might try sudo nano -w in a terminal instead; nano's "user-friendly" for a console-based app04:40
amonkeyi put my xfs partition into fstab and now it works fine for root but my user can't make files or anything. how to i let regular people use the drive?04:40
redsoxfan90redsoxfan90@redsoxfan90-laptop:~$ uname -a04:40
redsoxfan90Linux redsoxfan90-laptop 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux04:40
redsoxfan90redsoxfan90@redsoxfan90-laptop:~$04:40
peteweezredsoxfan90: what does uname -a say?04:40
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peteweezook you're 32 bit04:41
peteweeznot 6404:41
redsoxfan90thought so :)04:41
redsoxfan90so04:41
longwaveFuller: it looks like that's only a warning, does gedit still work after that message shows up?04:41
peteweezso get i38604:41
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redsoxfan90i want the top link or bottom?04:41
MuhamerWAT NETWORK IS THIS!04:41
peteweezor x8604:41
peteweeztop04:41
ladydoor!shout04:41
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:41
peteweezredsoxfan90: x86, the top one04:41
Fullerlongwave: It could be hanging again, as a window does not pop up. I have to hit ctrl+z to get out.04:41
peteweezredsox: not x86_6404:41
redsoxfan90Motherboards with ATI Graphics Notebooks with ATI Graphics04:41
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brendonjtladydoor: thank you for that  gezz04:42
Fullerladydoor: I'm trying to find a way to view a file and keep my terminal window from being hijacked by the file. :-)04:42
peteweezredsox: do you have a desktop or a laptop?04:42
redsoxfan90does it matter which one i choose?04:42
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peteweezyes04:42
redsoxfan90laptop04:42
redsoxfan90so notebook :)04:42
peteweezdo you have a graphics card or is it integrated?04:42
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XSahso no body know how to save the files that i downloaded using this command "apt-get install something"04:42
redsoxfan90what do you mean my interfrate?04:42
longwaveFuller: if you only want to view a file, use "less" to read it in the console, scroll with cursor keys then q to quit04:42
redsoxfan90they save automatically i think Xsah04:42
D0wnThanks to all who just helped me :D04:43
redsoxfan90or cntrl o04:43
XSahredsoxfan90: where?04:43
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redsoxfan90no clue buddy04:43
redsoxfan90ive been using ubuntu for lika  week04:43
redsoxfan90as you notice im getting my graphic driver :)04:43
ladydoorbrendonjt: for what?04:43
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XSahredsoxfan90: i want to use them latter in other computer...04:43
redsoxfan90oh04:43
ladydoorFuller: use gnu screen04:43
redsoxfan90i don;t think thats possible04:43
brendonjtladydoor: pulling him up on shouting04:43
MuhamerBREN04:43
Muhamerbren04:43
longwaveFuller: this bug has been reported in launchpad but does not affect everyone, and there is no current fix :(  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/2391704:43
Muhameru there04:43
redsoxfan90hook up that other computer to the interent04:43
Muhamerbren04:43
ladydoorbrendonjt: oh...i thought you were being sarcastic. haha04:44
Muhamerbre04:44
Fullerlongwave: I suppose it couldn't hurt to have one terminal window open to look at while I have another. I was hoping to take advantage of my mouse's scroll wheel to browse the file without the window needing to be active however.04:44
brendonjtmuhamer:  i'm here04:44
MuhamerBreeeeeen04:44
Muhamerok04:44
MuhamerNumbah51 is the guy04:44
Fullerladydoor: is that a terminal command?04:44
Muhamerso ask him st0ff04:44
longwaveFuller: if you are using gnome-terminal, you can open tabs for little-used terminals to save screen space04:44
ladydoorFuller: yes and no. it turns one terminal...into many04:44
adil_I don't want to start abrawl but what do you guys use for e-mail... I am looking for something close to MS Outlook04:44
XSahredsoxfan90: that will be a crazy thing " assuming that the update and the new packages about 350" and my internet download speed is 13Kb04:44
Fullerladydoor: Say what?04:44
ladydoorFuller: and it will change your computing life :-)04:44
ladydoorFuller: lol04:44
brendonjtnumbah51: what happened when you went to install it04:44
redsoxfan90Xsah try doing a search on your comp04:45
Fullerladydoor: Uh oh, a life changing experience?04:45
ladydoorFuller: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/04:45
redsoxfan90and try attacking them in a email04:45
ladydoorFuller: not really04:45
redsoxfan90no clue man04:45
ladydoorFuller: i was being ironic04:45
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Fullerladydoor: hahaha!04:45
ladydoorFuller: but it is really useful04:45
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Numbah51Muhamer: Do you remember?04:45
brendonjtnumbah51: he could have a corrupt copy of the iso  in that part did you use the live cd to install04:45
longwaveFuller: "screen" is like a set of tabbed terminals that is very useful if you have a lot of terminal sessions to manage04:45
Muhamerlol04:45
XSahredsoxfan90: do you know any good site for ubuntu packages specially ?04:45
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peteweezredsox: sorry my computer rebooted04:46
fernhello04:46
redsoxfan90peteweez: no problem04:46
brendonjtnumbah51: he is getting on my nerves he has only been giving half the story04:46
Fullerlongwave: Ah. I see. This is gnu screen you are talking about?04:46
redsoxfan90XSah: not sure once again i use synaptic04:46
brassdoes anybody know why root would not be able to chane the group of a folder?04:46
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Numbah51brendonjt: No we didn't use the livecd04:46
redsoxfan90XSah: try a search on google perhaps04:46
longwaveFuller: yes04:46
redsoxfan90ill get u a link04:46
redsoxfan901 sec04:46
brendonjtnumbah51: ok  try  using the live cd to install it04:46
Fullerlongwave: Is it already installed in Ubuntu?04:47
ladydoorbrendonjt: what folder is it?04:47
brendonjtas it has a very good gui  for installing04:47
ladydoorbrendonjt: sorry04:47
peteweezredsoxfan90: I think laptops always have integrated graphics, but I'm not sure (btw, I'm a red sox fan too :-)04:47
ladydoorbrendonjt: that was for brass04:47
longwaveFuller: no, but it's in the repositories04:47
Numbah51brendonjt: ok he can try but i'm not at his house right now but he's a noob04:47
ladydoorbrass: what folder is it?04:47
Fullerlongwave: Alright. I'll go check it out.04:47
fernbrass .. this sounds like a permissions thing04:47
eigenlambdaya red soxxez!04:47
brendonjtladydoor: that cool04:47
XSahredsoxfan90:Thank you, yes i did and i found, but the update made a trouble, any way thank you04:47
eigenlambdalol whos heres from boston?04:47
brassmy 'music' folder.    owner:  root    group:   plugdev04:47
eigenlambdalol04:47
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redsoxfan90http://packages.ubuntu.com/04:47
peteweezmy dad was born in Lawrence, MA04:47
redsoxfan90peteweez: soxs are doing horrible i quit watching them :P04:47
brasswhen I change it from a sudo nautilus..   it imediately changes back.   when I use chgrp.  nothing happens04:48
longwaveFuller: actually, no, screen is included in ubuntu-desktop, you should already have it04:48
redsoxfan90were do you live ?04:48
peteweezredsoxfan90: yeah it is bad04:48
brendonjtnumbah51: ok  do it for him from the live cd so he don't muck it up04:48
peteweezredsoxfan90: Marylan04:48
redsoxfan90ic04:48
peteweez*Maryland04:48
brassnautilus says I don't 'have the permissions'04:48
redsoxfan90your father around?04:48
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eigenlambdasoxes vs yanquis 2yrs ago was awesome04:48
peteweezasleep04:48
redsoxfan90ah ok04:48
peteweezyeah04:48
eigenlambda...then we steamroll over stl04:48
Fullerlongwave: Ah. alright.04:48
redsoxfan90yes but there ina slumb04:48
redsoxfan90slump04:48
redsoxfan90the soxs owners are stupid atm04:48
peteweezyeah no kidding04:48
Numbah51brendonjt: ok i'll do it tomorrow and i'll let you know tomorrow how it turned out04:48
redsoxfan90they didnt sighn no104:48
peteweezbut they're into big finishes04:48
peteweezno1?04:49
redsoxfan90won't happen this year04:49
peteweezwho's he?04:49
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fernbrass .. find the linux survival guide in google and do the modules04:49
redsoxfan90the redsoxs owner didn't sighn anyone.04:49
peteweezoh ok04:49
bearI have a real quick question...  where does the network config file live and where is DNS stored?04:49
barataanybody uses pocketpc with ubuntu?04:49
brendonjtok  i think  it might be the disk partioner he would get stuck on lol04:49
peteweezredsoxfan90: I think you're going to need x86 for laptops with integrated graphics.04:49
wweasel!offtopic04:49
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:49
Numbah51lol ok04:49
longwavebear: /etc/network/interfaces for dhcp/static ip configs, dns resolvers are in /etc/resolv.conf04:49
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fernsystem .. amin .. networking04:50
bearis there a better network manager than the one that comes defaultly with ubuntu04:50
bearthank04:50
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redsoxfan90peteweez: i got it04:50
Fullerladydoor: Will screen display .py files?04:50
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redsoxfan90peteweez: im going to pm you04:50
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peteweezredsoxfan90: pm?04:50
peteweezwhat does pm mean?04:50
redsoxfan90private message04:50
AgrajagFuller: screen doesn't display any files04:50
brendonjtbrb  going for a smoke after all that04:50
peteweezoh ok04:50
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ladydoorFuller: it displays your terminal04:51
FullerAgrajag: Hm. I'll have to read the documentation...04:51
peteweezbrendonjt: smoking will kill you.04:51
AgrajagFuller: screen is a program that allows you to open a virtual terminal that you can detach from and reattach to04:51
pike_bear: its pretty easy just to use the command line tools04:51
brendonjtpeteweez:i know  i am giving up  but after that guy  yikes04:52
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FullerAgrajag, ladydoor: Is going to File>Open Tab the same as using this screen ability?04:52
brassdoing modules will not help me give the root users permissions04:52
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fernany ideas how get this system to recognise a USB modem04:52
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longwaveFuller: it is kind of the same thing, but way more powerful - though you will need to read the docs to get the most out of  it04:53
AgrajagFuller: no04:53
ladydoorFuller: what longwave said04:53
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Fullerlongwave, ladydoor, Agrajag: Alright. I'll go read the docs. Thanks all for your help!04:53
fernBrass... it will tell you haow to do that04:53
AgrajagFuller: all you really need, for now: "screen" starts a new screen. ctrl-a, d detaches. screen -r reattaches.04:53
gre123 anyone ever try KANOTIX?04:53
richardIm having problems with downloading files bigger than 2 GB ... ie Ubuntu DVD - they consistantly fail - and i do have the space04:53
richard?04:54
Agrajagrichard: what filesystem is the drive you are trying to save the files to?04:54
gre123i was think of usin it as a second distro on my comp04:54
ladydoorAgrajag: out of curiosity, do you use the default C-a as the master key?04:54
Agrajagyeah04:54
richarder standard install filesystem04:54
Agrajagrichard: so, ext3?04:54
richardhow do i check ...... but i think so yeah04:55
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Agrajagyou can run "mount" in a terminal and it will show you all mounted filesystems04:55
Agrajagtypes, and mount options used on each04:55
sceptre0is there an easy way to detect a new mouse without restarting?04:55
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FullerAgrajag: What does ctrl-a do?04:55
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brassdo you also think the modules will tell me why the owner, whose also a member of the group can't change the group?04:55
longwaveladydoor: i use the default ctrl-a, my only change to screen is a custom status bar with load averages, date/time and the window list04:55
gianluigibuffonhi04:56
gianluigibuffonI need some help guys04:56
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:56
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gianluigibuffonI downloaded reloadevery for conqueror... is a xpi file... how I install it???????04:56
ladydoorlongwave: oh, sweet04:56
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sceptre0gianluigibuffon: open it with firefox04:57
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ladydoorgianluigibuffon: are you talking about konqueror, the KDE web browser, or conkeror, the firefox extension?04:57
Fullerlongwave: Does ctrl+a move between the tabs?04:57
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gianluigibuffonkonqueror with I can browse the internet too04:57
gianluigibuffonI browse with firefox04:57
ladydoorFuller: C-a n and C-a p does04:57
AgrajagFuller: in screen, ctrl-a by itself tells screen that the next key you press is a screen command04:57
gianluigibuffonbut I want reloadevery for konqueror04:57
ladydoorFuller: or C-a *tabnumber*04:57
shawnr_gianluigibuffon, xpi is an extension for firefox plugins04:57
Agrajagctrl-a, d detaches, for example.04:57
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gianluigibuffononly for firefox?04:58
longwaveFuller: all screen commands are ctrl+a then another keypress; ctrl+a space moves to the next window, ctrl+a ctrl+a moves back, or ctrl+a number to go direct to a window04:58
gianluigibuffonthen where can I find plugings for Konqueror??????04:58
bearPike what command line tools?04:58
Fullerlongwave, ladydoor, Agrajag: I see. I see...thanks again.04:58
gre123GOOD NIGHT04:58
richardyeah ext304:58
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peteweezoops didn't know ppl could get booted for flooding04:59
peteweezpoor redsoxfan9004:59
ladydoorFuller: sweet, hope you like it04:59
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Fullerlongwave, ladydoor, Agrajag: Ah! Yes. Now I can go to a new terminal even if the one is being hijacked by gedit. Sweet deal.04:59
ladydoorFuller: :-)05:00
Fullerladydoor: My life will never be the same! :P05:00
AgrajagFuller: hijacked by gedit?05:00
pike_bear: you were asking about tools for managing connections. i just meant like ifconfig iwconfig dhclient and such05:00
gianluigibuffonnah I will do it with firefox05:00
gianluigibuffonxD05:00
longwaveAgrajag: Fuller seems to be experiencing https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/2391705:00
FullerAgrajag: Referring to how you cannot do anything more with a terminal after typing gedit.05:00
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longwaveAgrajag: which is causing problems when running gksudo gedit in the background for some reason05:01
AgrajagFuller: of course you can05:01
AgrajagFuller: gedit&05:01
richard/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:01
AgrajagFuller: or, run gedit from the terminal, select the terminal window, hit ctrl+z, then run "bg"05:01
bearpike_: so what your saying is I should read the man file on ifconfig05:01
AgrajagFuller: now you're got 3 ways to avoid it05:01
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gianluigibuffonhey guys05:01
FullerAgrajag: I was trying that...but it wasn't opening the gedit window, and the terminal was just hanging...05:01
Agrajagyou've, even05:02
gianluigibuffonhow I install a tar.gz with dapper????05:02
Agrajagodd05:02
orlockHey, is anybody here using a Nvidia nForce 430 based board that can chck something for me?05:02
pike_bear: give me a for instance on what youre trying to connect to05:02
ladydoorFuller: lol05:02
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FullerAgrajag: Ha. However, for some reason. This time it worked...05:02
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ladydoorFuller: you might also try <alt>F2 gksudo nautilus <enter>05:02
peteweezredsoxfan90: you there?05:02
richardAgrajag: /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:02
ozzloyis there a way to say "what's process has this file open right now?"05:02
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orlockozzloy: fuser05:03
sethkozzloy, lsof | grep filename05:03
Agrajagrichard: oh, well that's odd, ext3 has no 2gig limit that I know of05:03
bearpike_: I have a note book and I travel between 13 offices all with different wireless configurations05:03
richardmaybe its a firefox bug05:03
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Fullerladydoor: Yes, I suppose then whenever I opened a file it would be in root mode. That's a good tip, thanks.05:03
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ladydoorFuller: np05:04
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richardAgrajag: i'll try a downloader program - any suggestions?05:04
Agrajagrichard: wget05:04
richardthx05:04
pike_bear: i do normally this: 1. "sudo -s" 2. "iwlist ath0 scan" 3. "iwconfig ath0 essid namethescanfound" 4. "dhclient ath0"05:04
Agrajagjust open a terminal and run "wget <file>"05:04
MuhamerThanks Bren, see you tomorrow.05:04
ozzloythank you orlock sethk05:04
bearpike_: I just want to beable to auto connect to the networks without having to kepp putting in the wep keys05:04
Fullerladydoor, Agrajag, longwave: Thanks for arming me with these new commands. I'm going to go get some rest. Good evening.05:04
Justin_IS OSS/ALSA the best that Linux audio gets?05:04
pike_bear: ah wep05:04
ladydoorFuller: :-)05:04
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ladydoorFuller: good luck05:04
brendonjtladydoor:  here is something i have been trying to figure out  what does the gk in gksudo  gedit  mean05:04
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ladydoorbrendonjt: it means that it's a "gtk" version of sudo05:05
brendonjtladydoor:  ok  is it better  or just the same05:05
ladydoorbrendonjt: i.e., graphikal and integrated with gnome, as opposed to being a terminal command05:05
AbstIs there any mail client for linux that is always open in the GNOME panel and will alert me of new email when it comes?05:05
richardAgrajag: is wget the same as aget - if not its not on synaptic05:05
brendonjtladydoor:  ok  ithank you for clearing that up for me05:06
ladydoorbrendonjt: it's just for graphikal applications that're going to open their own windows, whereas sudo is for the command line05:06
gianluigibuffonhow I install a tar.gz with dapper????05:06
ladydoorbrendonjt: np05:06
pike_bear: that would be editing the interfaces file for the autoconnect and specifying the wep keys. i know in solaris you can do multiple keys and even profiles with wificonfig (similar to iwconfig in linux sortof)05:06
Agrajagrichard: wget is in there, maybe you don't have universe enabled?05:06
richardi do05:06
AbstRichard: Why not go into Terminal and type sudo apt-get install wget05:07
AbstThat'll install it05:07
richardah gwget05:07
richardfound it05:07
Agrajaggwget?05:07
richardyeah05:07
peteweezredsoxfan90: u there?05:07
Agrajagmust be some graphical frontend05:07
richardthats it .... when you search05:07
AgrajagI find this when I search: wget - retrieves files from the web05:07
AbstHmm05:07
AbstJust got gwget05:08
AbstIts a graphical download manager05:08
longwavebear: you can have at least 4 keys stored at once in /etc/network/interfaces05:08
squeaksi have multiple serverlayout's in my xorg.conf, i had been (in previous linux distros) logging in to at a text login, and running startx -- -layout CHOICE, but what i did in ubuntu was change rc2.d/ so that gdm does not run at runlevel 2, then i did startx -- -layout Multihead, then telinit 3, and i logged in again at the gdm login... What would be the best way?05:08
Agrajaganyway gwget looks like it's just a pnome frontend, so use that05:08
Agrajager, gnome05:08
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longwavebear: look in /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian for examples05:08
ajhtiredwolfHello05:08
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eigenlambdaus.archive.ubuntu.com is down... lol...05:08
zerojakelhello05:08
peteweezanybody know of a clock for linux that displays decimal (french republican) time?05:08
bearpike_: I glanced at the file let me look at it again05:08
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AbstNo one knows a email client that will be always on in the background and alert me when new mail is in?05:08
eigenlambdapeteweez: lol!05:08
squeaksi could find many guides on setting up serverlayout's in xorg.conf, but nothing mentioning how to pick which serverlayout is used05:09
bearlongwave: thanks let me take a look05:09
joltGot another one for you all.. I have a generic USB audio class device... how do i force Ubuntu to reconize it as an option05:09
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eigenlambdafrench revolutionary time05:09
longwavesqueaks: can't you use gdm to start a different X server depending on the session you select?05:09
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richardAbst: Thunderbird is good05:09
joltIt reconizes the mic from my logitech camera but not a headset05:09
ajhtiredwolf I was thinking of installing ubuntu opposed to FC5, does ubuntu have good security features?05:09
MagicFabhi, is there a way to enable remote-desktop access (via VNC) on a machine via SSH (without the GUI tool in System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop) ?05:09
Abstrichard: On windows it has an icon on the taskbar, will it have that in Linux?05:09
peteweezeigenlambda: what's so funny05:09
richard*goes to check05:09
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peteweezeigenlambda: it'd just be funny to be able to say omg, it's 78 past 4!!!05:10
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Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Security really depends on how you fix up the system - of course some systems comes pre-packed with more security in mind, Ubuntu server would most likely be more secure then the desktop version - but you can make the desktop version as secure as you want if you wish to play around with it.05:10
Skuz`oh great no audio in Quake 305:11
richardAbst: you can minimise it - or put it in another workspace05:11
Skuz`anyone have any ideas as to what the cause might be05:11
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ajhtiredwolfJustin: well I guess my question should be then, is it about as secure as Fedora core 505:11
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zerojakelSkuz`: install alsa-oss05:11
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Yes05:11
Skuz`zerojakel, okay05:11
Abstrichard: yeah but I usually use all 4 workspaces - I want it like Gaim when you've got no windows open. I'll check synaptic.05:11
sethkajhtiredwolf, identically configured, they are identically secure05:11
ladydoorAbst: there're utilities to check your mail, and even an evolution plugin to notify you (i think)05:11
Skuz`zerojakel,  any configuration needed after that?05:12
Abstladydoor: Utilities I have to download?05:12
ladydoorAbst: possibly05:12
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AbstKay ill check05:12
ladydoori know that mailutils has one05:12
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: I've had about enough of fedora core, every time I try and ask for help in the forum or on their irc I just get someone with a bad aditude looking to just piss off people who dont know as much about Fedora as they do05:12
ladydoorAbst: and you might look for something under "evolution" and maybe under "thunderbird"05:12
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: so im looking for the best alternate solution to Fedora, while still being able to use linux.05:13
ladydoor!security05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
ladydoor!best05:13
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.05:13
orlockajhtiredwolf: heh, i get people that assume cos they dont understand the problem, its not an issue so i should stop whining05:13
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Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Well Ubuntu is your solution especially if you want a supportive community - active and friendly forums, and IRC - and is as secure as the fedora core - if not more secure ;)05:13
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squeakslongwave, do i setup gdm by editing /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm, or by running gdmsetup, or /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf-custom?05:14
squeaksor none of those 3?05:14
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angel12hey guys, does anyone have an atmel card with ubuntu?05:14
daMaestrois the ati fglrx support out of box?05:14
ajhtiredwolfJustin_:excellent, also, do you know if it has good support for ati drivers? Because ive never been able to get them to work on Fedora05:14
Abstladydoor: Is fetchmail what you mean?05:14
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longwavesqueaks: i think gdm.conf-custom is your best bet, though i haven't played around with gdm all that much05:14
squeaksajhtiredwolf, i just switched from Fedora to ubuntu, and i like ubuntu thus far05:14
Justin_But then again security really is left up to the user after the base level, some users need more security for network - others for programs still others for e-mail etc - so it depends on what you want to do after you get the base, and of course there is plenty of software to build up the fortress you want to have :)05:14
sethkajhtiredwolf, the support is identical05:14
ladydoorAbst: fetchmail will get your mail, but won't notify you05:15
AbstHmm05:15
sethkajhtiredwolf, the same binary ati drivers are used with ubuntu and fedora05:15
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StoneNotethe linux desktop is more secure than the windows desktop since most actions occur with a nonpriveleged userid.  everything in windows is usually done as an administrator (equal to root)  which is THE biggest hole besides IE05:15
zerojakelSkuz`: no nothing05:15
orlockIs anybody here running an nForce 430 based board?05:15
Skuz`zerojakel, okay i still have no sound in quake 305:15
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Well I am on Radeon and it works fine - if you mean the "flgrix" drivers.. well that is pretty much the same across the board - drivers are drivers really, but works fine for me.05:15
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daMaestroSkuz`, set the audio to oss? from 'best'?05:15
ajhtiredwolfit cant be though can it? They use differnet kernels, and the kernel version im using seems to be the problem.05:15
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daMaestroajhtiredwolf, what kernel are you using?05:16
ladydoorAbst: you could use, say, GNU messages from GNU Mailutils to check your mail and write a script to notify you. or you could, again, check for an evolution or firefox plugin :-)05:16
zerojakelSkuz`: and alsa-oss?05:16
sethkajhtiredwolf, they don't use different kernels05:16
ajhtiredwolfbut anyway... as long as I could at least get some help with installing them without someone pissing on me....05:16
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sethkajhtiredwolf, where did you get that idea?05:16
longwavethey *do* use slightly different kernels05:16
Skuz`daMaestro, what?05:16
Justin_sethk, Fedora's kernel is not the same as Ubuntu's05:16
longwavered hat and ubuntu patch the stock kernel with their own different sets of patches05:16
Skuz`all i did was install alsa-oss you said i didnt have to do anything else05:16
kohrok,can i write to  ntfs from ubuntu05:16
Justin_It is the same kernel, but they are modified differently05:16
Skuz`kohr,  no05:16
Skuz`soon though05:16
dasGewitte1What is the latest version/release of Xscreensaver?05:16
ajhtiredwolfok I understand now05:16
daMaestroSkuz`, i had to switch my sound system (in the q3 config) to use OSS not ALSA05:16
sethkJustin_, the particular kernel version for a distro release may be different, but that's hardly significant05:16
Skuz`daMaestro, how do i do that?05:17
sethkJustin_, and anybody who runs with ubuntu's distro kernel isn't paying attention05:17
Justin_sethk, Again config makes a difference05:17
Skuz`quake 3 isnt saving my config file05:17
Skuz`each time i run it i have to set it up again05:17
ajhtiredwolfcan you use something similar to yum with ubuntu?05:17
kohrskuz, what filesystem can linux and windows both write to?05:17
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Skuz`ajhtiredwolf, yes, apt05:17
daMaestroSkuz`, .quakeX or something05:17
Skuz`and its better05:17
longwaveajhtiredwolf: apt-get is like yum but better ;)05:17
daMaestroin your home dir05:17
Skuz`kohr, fat05:17
Skuz`maybe fat32, not sure though05:17
ajhtiredwolfalright, well when i first tried to isntall ubuntu05:17
dasGewitte1Skuz: Yes, fat3205:17
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Ubuntu is linux.. anything that runs on Linux - will run on Ubuntu05:17
ajhtiredwolfit said there was a problem with x, and i wasnt able to05:17
bearlongwave: so if I have more then 1 network I connect to all I need to do is  iface eth0 inet static05:17
bear    address 192.168.1.205:17
bear    network 192.168.1.005:17
bear    netmask 255.255.255.005:17
bear    broadcast 192.168.1.25505:17
bear    wireless-essid Home05:17
dasGewitte1Skuz: External Hard drives use fat3205:17
bear    wireless-key  then reapeat for each network05:17
longwave!paste05:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:18
sethkit is true that the various distros often break the kernel, but then you install the real kernel from kernel.org and it's fixed05:18
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, You may have been lacking a lib05:18
ladydoor!paste > bear05:18
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kohrskuz, ok thanks, bye05:18
longwavebear: i think you put wireless-key1 then wireless-key2 though i am not entirely sure05:18
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yggdrasildoes anyone here know of a web based thing like nukephp or xoops that is like a video gallery ?05:18
longwavebear: it may only work up to 4 keys at once, but you can always leave the other keys in that file but commented out - at least you won't have to retype them05:18
ajhtiredwolfalright well im gonna go ahead and install ubuntu, il get on here with my laptop. Thanks Justin_05:18
ladydoorkohr: FAT, and there are windowz drivers for ext2/305:19
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rugbythomasdoes anyone know why synaptic would say gcc is installed but terminal does not know the command gcc05:19
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Nice - if you run into problems.. come back and ask away.. thats what everyone else does :))05:19
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ajhtiredwolfhah thank you very much05:19
ajhtiredwolf\/05:19
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bearbut the ssid changes05:19
Skuz`seta snddevice "/dev/dsp"05:19
Skuz`is that an issue05:19
ladydoorrugbythomas: what're you trying to do with it?05:20
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rugbythomashomework05:20
nich0sI am nich0s. Hear me roar.05:20
ladydoorrugbythomas: ok...05:20
ladydoorrugbythomas: do "which gcc"05:20
rugbythomasmy make file works great at school but not home05:20
Justin_rugbythomas, You need to install "build essentials" in 6.06 dapper.05:20
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Justin_Or else you will see GCC but it will not actually work05:20
rugbythomas6.4.605:21
Justin_sudo apt-get build-essentials and you should be fine05:21
rugbythomas3.4.605:21
longwave"sudo apt-get install build-essential" even :)05:21
Justin_longwave, yeah ;D05:21
zerojakelhow install gcc 4.1?05:21
Justin_-s05:21
Justin_zerojakel, upgrade gcc :D05:21
zerojakelxDD05:21
Justin_If you want to do it the easy way05:21
Justin_I don't know if the reps have GCC 4.1 yet though05:22
longwavezerojakel: gcc-4.1 is only in edgy so far05:22
rugbythomasPassword:05:22
longwaveit probably won't be backported to dapper05:22
zerojakelok05:22
rugbythomasE: Invalid operation build-essentials05:22
rugbythomasthomas@thomas-desktop:~$05:22
sethkJustin_, if you see gcc, it will work, but you mean that he needs other supporting programs05:22
nich0srugbythomas, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"05:22
bearlongwave: but how does it know which key goes wth which ssid05:23
Justin_sethk, Yeah well I had the same problem - said that GCC was installed, but did not actually work - sudo apt-get build-essential fixed that05:23
rugbythomasthanks05:23
longwavebear: when there are four keys i think it just uses any one of the four05:23
sethkJustin_, if you compile something with gcc, yourself, you'll see that gcc works perfectly.  You needed more than gcc for whatever you were trying to do.05:23
longwavebear: i imagine there must be some kind of better network manager for people in your situation...05:23
bearlongwave: no matter what the ssid is?  crazy05:23
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Justin_When is edgy to be officially released again?05:23
dasGewitte1October 25 or so05:24
longwavebear: no, you can only specify one ssid as far as i can see05:24
dasGewitte1you can find official release dates on Ubuntu's website05:24
longwavebear: if you list more than one i think it will only use the last one you list05:24
Justin_I see... I hope it's good because dapper is perfection.. well minus not having GCC by default..05:24
bearlongwave: and now we're back to my original question does anyone know of a better network manager05:24
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zerojakelyes 25 october05:24
rugbythomasmy school has 4,1 up and running05:25
rossHey everyone....I was wondering if anyone could help me configure my laptop with ubuntu wirelessly05:25
JoseStefanknot 2 should be out Thurs05:25
bearross: what where are you at05:25
joltHopes the live install isnt broken on knot 205:26
rugbythomasdoes anyone know what it takes to get Konsole to run in KDevelop05:26
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ladydoorJustin_: ubuntu's always been that way, so far as i know...i seem to remember having to install build-essential before05:26
AbstIf I installed KDE can I fully uninstall it and go back to Gnome?05:26
Justin_ladydoor, 5 had it on mine05:26
Justin_abst, sure05:26
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ladydoorAbst: install ubuntu-desktop05:27
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ladydoorAbst: then05:27
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Justin_Abst, Why would you not be able to?05:27
ladydoorAbst: look at the dependencies for kubuntu-desktop05:27
vanderleyI cant configure my keyboard, how can I do it: my pc is a Laptop Compac Presario05:27
AbstJustin_: I'm a newbie and I don't like reformatting so I just make sure..05:27
AbstHehe05:27
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sethkAbst, sure, but why bother to uninstall it.  if you don't want to run it, then don't run it05:27
ladydoorAbst: and uninstall any of them whose removal doesn't conflict with having ubuntu-desktop05:27
ajhtiredwolfAlright, well I selected to install ubuntu in graphical safe mode... and after it got past the little loading bar loading drivers and or what not, the screen just went blank05:27
Justin_But KDE is bad.. - fair warning05:27
Justin_I stick with my XFCE :D05:27
rossBEAR: what do you mean? what and where?05:28
AbstXFCE?05:28
ladydoorJustin_: let's not start a window-manager war05:28
Justin_Abst, yes :)05:28
vanderleyhow can I configre my keyboad:05:28
ladydoorAbst: it's another desktop environment05:28
AbstLink?05:28
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ladydoor!xfce05:28
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop05:28
sethkKDE is _not_ bad.05:28
JoseStefanCLI for teh win!05:28
AbstSee what ladydoor said05:28
zerojakela question somebody has a terminator card TV of kworld05:28
bearross: sorry, you need help with a wireless connection05:28
Justin_ladydoor, No war ?? - it's all about choice, I do not care if people want to run KDE - I am just warning that it is bad ---- unless you love your ram being sucked05:28
zerojakel05:28
rossbear: yeah05:28
AbstHaha05:28
bearross: do you have drivers installed05:28
sethkit's entirely a matter of preference.  kde has some significant features that the other desktops don't have.  That's not to say it's better, just that it is different, but it certainly isn't "bad"05:28
Justin_sethk, Sure it's not - creating a software registry is not bad of course not05:29
ajhtiredwolfKDE does look very pretty thogh hah05:29
AbstKDE is more like windows from pictures05:29
rossmy ubunu isnt recognizing my built in ethernet card05:29
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, It is pretty :)05:29
Justin_I simply like to keep my ram for other ubuntu stuff :P05:29
rossbear: idk anything about the drivers for it...im a noob05:29
sethkJustin_, don't voice opinions when you don't understand the issues05:29
digivorecan anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?05:29
Justin_sethk, Who are you? - a KDE developer:?05:29
sethkajhtiredwolf, kde is an excellent piece of work05:29
bearross: what kind of card do have05:29
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: That is very true... but I have 2gb of ram lol so...05:29
sethkJustin_, no, I write kernels and device drivers05:29
Justin_I know about KDE very well thank you very much.05:29
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Skuz`how do i change my sound to use oss in q3 instead of alsa?05:29
rossbear: idk its built in05:30
sethkJustin_, obviously not, if you say it's "bad", that's just ignorant05:30
Justin_sethk, Whatever stick to KDE - enjoy the registry05:30
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SeanHELLO!05:30
sethkJustin_, I don't use a registry, but you can keep your illusions if you like05:30
AbstHEY!05:30
ajhtiredwolfalright, so im trying to install ubuntu right? But its not working05:30
rossim in gnome05:30
Justin_lol.. @ illusions05:30
rugbythomasis there anyway to make a custom run cd based on the way I have ubuntu set up right now, so that I could take a cd/dvd to a friends computer and do make work there05:30
bearross: do this open a terminal and type in sudo lshw    this will list all the hardware install on your computer05:30
sethkyou're right, I should have said delusions05:31
zerojakelI need to fit a remote control of a terminator TV05:31
rossok hold on05:31
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bearross: look for your network cards I assume you'll have 205:31
dasGewitte1rugbythomas: it is possible to make an image of your machine, yes.05:31
ajhtiredwolfanyone heh?05:31
sethkajhtiredwolf, what's happening?05:31
ladydoor!anyone05:31
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:31
rossbear: ok I have the list05:31
ajhtiredwolfI did ask my question...05:32
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ajhtiredwolfim trying to install ubuntu and it isnt working, when i try and install it in graphical safe mode05:32
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ajhtiredwolfit doesnt work, it just goes blank on the screen05:32
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ladydoorajhtiredwolf: try booting into the livecd instead of to safe mode05:32
rossbear: im not sure how to tell05:32
ladydoorajhtiredwolf: the livecd has an installer on it05:32
sethkajhtiredwolf, or you can try the text mode install from the alternate cd05:32
Jengahey. how do I open ports for faster torrent downloads?05:32
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wikijeffAccording to Synaptic I have OpenOffice Equation editor installed, but I can't add or find it in the application menu, anyone know why??05:32
ajhtiredwolfalright well hold mabe this will give insite05:32
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ajhtiredwolfI just tried to isntall it regularly05:33
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ladydoorwikijeff: try this:  killall gnome-panel05:33
sethkwikijeff, it's more or less a plug in.  you can access it from oowriter05:33
NickGarveycan you move an ext3 partition?05:33
ladydoorwikijeff: which will restart it05:33
bearross: look for the word network05:33
ladydoorwikijeff: nm what i said then05:33
rossok05:33
ajhtiredwolfand I get this error message: failed to start the X server ( your graphical interface). It is like that it is not set up correctly woudl you like to view the x server output?05:33
Abst!xserver05:33
zerojakelajhtiredwolf: that grafica card you have05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
verbosein bash how do i generate number 1 through 99 i thought i could do it with tr, but can't find it05:33
Abst!xwindows05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
Sean!xwindows05:33
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Did you change your driver?05:33
ladydoorajhtiredwolf: is this booting into the livecd or booting into the safe mode?05:33
Sean!sex05:33
AshexACTION sexes Sean05:33
wikijeffsethk: thanks05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
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sethkajhtiredwolf, do the text mode install, it's easier than trying to troubleshoot this during the install process.05:34
ladydoor!x05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
Sean * Ashex sexes Sean05:34
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:34
Abst!your mum05:34
longwavewikijeff: the equation editor is a plugin for the various apps - open openoffice writer and go to insert > object > formula05:34
bearross: mine says network  discription wireless interface05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about your mum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: what do oyu mean? I havent installed yet lol05:34
Sean!MYDICK05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about MYDICK - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
ladydoorlet's not abuse the bot...05:34
Sean!CUNT05:34
JoseStefan!botabus05:34
longwave!ops05:34
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, Ahhh ok ok - I thought you had installed ;) - try a text install then05:34
JoseStefan!botabuse05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about CUNT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
Sean!pussy05:34
ladydoorSean: ok, that's immature05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botabus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
Sean!vaginta05:34
jolt*eyeroll*05:34
ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!05:34
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AbstCalm down Sean05:34
AbstHehe05:34
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: How do I do that?05:34
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pussy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
joltCaptain i think we got a kid...05:34
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JoseStefan!botabuse > Sean05:34
Justin_Sean, Enough with the childish stuff..05:34
ladydoorseriously05:34
AbstHes gone05:34
DBOhes gone05:34
sethkgee, too bad  :)05:35
ladydoorplus, it's not just men here05:35
ladydooroh05:35
rossbear: there are a few networks, but the only one with a description is the ethernet controller05:35
ladydoorgood05:35
sethkladydoor, he couldn't even spell it  :)05:35
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angel12when i activate my wireless, should it be looking for an ip from 255.255.255.255 or my router's ip?05:35
ladydoorsethk: *sigh*05:35
verboseangel12: dhcp sends out a request to 255.255.255.25505:35
sethkangel12, all 255's is a broadcast05:35
verboseit's the broadcast address05:35
ajhtiredwolfJustin_: ow do I install in text mode?05:35
ladydoorsethk: it's still annoying05:35
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, I believe you need to download the actual text install CD - I think dapper only has LIVE-install by default05:35
verbosebecause it doesn't yet know your router's address05:35
sethkladydoor, oh, I agree05:36
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JoseStefanajhtiredwolf, alternate CD05:36
ladydoorsethk: and it didn't help that he started off with...more offensive words05:36
Justin_ajhtiredwolf, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179056 <-- same question05:36
angel12well, its not getting an ip from my router. but my other ubuntu box works just fine05:36
sethkladydoor, no argument05:36
AbstWhat is your favourite piece of software?05:36
ladydoorAbst: ratpoison, gnu screen, emacs, & conkeror are tied :-)05:36
JoseStefanAbst, does the bios count05:36
Justin_well be back in a bit - :)05:37
verboseangel12: check the cable, try setting the ip manually and see if you can communicate, make sure the driver is loaded properly for the card, if it's a kernel module or something05:37
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sethkangel12, that's odd, but the initial broadcast isn't the problem05:37
AbstJoseStefan: Afraid not05:37
joltHeh i remember the days when screen was considered multitasking over dialup05:37
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CSWookieScreen is multitasking.05:37
CSWookieScreen is the best window manager ever.05:37
joltNot when you can xterm05:38
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verbosejolt: ?05:38
CSWookieXtrem < screen.05:38
rossIs anyone here know how to configure ubuntu wirelessly?05:38
ajhtiredwolfOk well, if I install the alternate cd in text mode. It may work... but won't X still not work once its install?05:38
verbosehow about screen in xterm?05:38
verboseooooh05:38
CSWookies/xtrem/xterm/05:38
ladydoorjolt: aha, but can you copy/past in an xterm w/o using the mouse? i think not05:38
JoseStefanajhtiredwolf, good point05:38
sethkajhtiredwolf, probably not05:38
ladydoor*paste05:38
joltTrue..05:38
Abstladydoor: There can only be one?05:38
joltscreen wins on the accessability front05:38
angel12verbose, its a wireless, and atme;05:38
CSWookieverbose: Nah.  I never use my linux computer directly.  I putty there from windows.05:38
sethkajhtiredwolf, often you can provide enough assistance during installation that it will run X at the end of the process05:39
sethkajhtiredwolf, what's your video hardware?05:39
JoseStefanCSWookie, what's the latest putty version?05:39
ajhtiredwolfsethk: X800GTO Connect 3d05:39
AbstWhat does ratpoison do05:39
CSWookieJoseStefan: I don't know.05:39
ladydoorAbst: with a capital ONE05:39
ladydoor:-)05:39
verboseCSWookie: no x11 forwarding?05:39
FlannelAbst: ratpoison is a WM, that doesn't require a mouse05:39
AbstOh05:39
AbstI'll be deleting that then05:40
CSWookieOnly when I need to use gnucash.05:40
ajhtiredwolfsethk: right now im at ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ it brought me there after the x server error came up and i looked at the error log05:40
sethkajhtiredwolf, If it can work with fedora, it can work with ubuntu.  it's exactly the same software05:40
AbstKonkeror?05:40
ladydoorAbst: nongnu.org/ratpoison05:40
ajhtiredwolfsethk: but... its not lol05:40
CSWookieratpoison is the WM I have on my linux box.05:40
verbosehaha05:40
verbosenice05:40
sethkajhtiredwolf, I thought you had been using fedora05:40
verbosekeyboard warrior05:40
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ajhtiredwolfsethk: yes... i dont doubt that it CAN work.. but I dont know HOW to make it work. Yes I was using fedora, and it was working.05:41
sethkajhtiredwolf, if you've completed the install, try  (as root) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:41
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ajhtiredwolfsethk: nahh, i havent even begun the install05:41
sethkajhtiredwolf, you can copy the xorg.conf file from fedora to ubuntu, if you still have it.05:41
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ajhtiredwolfsethk: it should be on the hard disk yes05:41
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sethkajhtiredwolf, yes, in /etc/X1105:41
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nownottok heres the situation i have xp pro on one partition and ubuntu on the same hd but different partition, i have vmware installed on ubuntu and i want to boot windows, but i get a blue screen of death right after the windows splash screen05:42
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ajhtiredwolfsethk: but that xorg.conf file is incorrect and was giving me problems.. which is a big reason im trying to use ubuntu in the first place05:42
CSWookieI'd probably put linux on my laptop, but I'm a web developer.  I have to be able to see what the thing looks like in IE.05:42
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wsgOK, wow, just tried Ubuntu 6.06 DVD release, sucks how to discover the new Gnome ability's05:42
Abstnownott: #windows05:42
MukundaI just installed some updates today, and it has killed compiz, is this a known issue? Metacity still works fine.05:42
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burritoortegaCSWookie: you can install internet explorer on linux via wine05:42
sethkajhtiredwolf, unlikely that switching to ubuntu will solve your problem05:42
wikijeffWhat's the best way to create math related document, containing things like matrices and vectors, on ubuntu??05:42
sethkajhtiredwolf, use the xorg.conf file as documentation, then05:42
burritoortegaCSWookie: i have it, it was easy with winetools05:42
sethkajhtiredwolf, and use the program I gave you a few minutes ago to configure X05:42
ladydoorCSWookie: aren't there utils for that? also, you could always put a thing on your page being like "look weird? install a non-sucky, free browser, like firefox!"05:43
FlannelCSWookie: look into 'ies4lin' it's IE5 5.5 and 6, for leeenux05:43
ergodoes anyone know how to configure the system to input japanese and chinese characters?05:43
nownottso that is my only option is to depend on #windows?05:43
ajhtiredwolfsethk: program? which program?05:43
AbstWell its a windows problem05:43
wsgAnyone got screenshots of the new gnome in action ?05:43
ladydoor!patience05:43
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:43
AbstNot a linux one05:43
CSWookieHmm.  Now ubunt sounds more atractive.  You're saying that it made installing IE easy?05:43
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sethkdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:43
sethkajhtiredwolf,   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:43
sethkajhtiredwolf, obviously after you've done a text mode install05:43
StoneNotenownott, did you create a windows virtual appliance in vmware that is getting a blue screen OR are you pointing vmware to your windows partition and getting the blue screen?05:43
FlannelCSWookie: yeah, look into it.  They come with a preconfigured wine script, or something like that.  Using the evolt standalones, as far as I'm aware05:43
sethkajhtiredwolf, I've never tried it with the live cd,05:43
nownottwell have you heard of anyone using vmware to boot a windows partition that already has data on it, not a clean install05:43
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StoneNotenownott, no05:44
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ajhtiredwolfthis seems strange... x not working enough for it to install05:44
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sethkajhtiredwolf, yes, it's a bit unusual05:44
sethkajhtiredwolf, but that's why there is a text mode install (as there is in fedora)05:44
wsgAnyone got URL'sto the new gnome "screenshots" ?05:44
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CSWookieDebian is loading...05:45
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ladydoorwsg: http://www.gnome.org/05:45
JoseStefanedgy should have both installers on one disc05:45
StoneNotenownott, after you setup vmware under ubuntu, you can load virtual machines you download off the vmware site or other places or create your own.  but an os on another parition is NOT a vmware virtual machine05:45
bruenighttp://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=screenshots/gnome214/LatestGnome214Beta.jpg05:45
FlannelJoseStefan: theyre completely incompatable05:45
burritoortegai have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do?05:45
ajhtiredwolfah screw it... ive been at this for months now. I guess it just must be my graphics card, it simply won work with linux05:46
JoseStefanFlannel: i know, but there must be a way05:46
FlannelJoseStefan: double the size of the CD ;)05:46
ladydoorburritoortega: you need to do sudo umount /path/to/mount/point05:46
wsgdont see screenshots there ?05:46
ladydoorburritoortega: and then try gksudo gparted05:46
burritoortegai did unmount it05:46
JoseStefanFlannel: in that case, the DVD does that, i think05:46
sethkajhtiredwolf, you aren't going to fix it by changing distributions, unless one might have a newer X release than another05:46
burritoortegabut then it doesn't "see" it05:46
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nownottStoneNote: is there another program that might let me do this05:46
sethkajhtiredwolf, generally fedora is quite good with X configuration.05:47
ladydoorburritoortega: you may have to point it to /dev/sda05:47
AbstWSG: (05:45:59) bruenig: http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=screenshots/gnome214/LatestGnome214Beta.jpg05:47
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burritoortegaladydoor: how do i do that exactly?05:47
ladydooror do mkfs /dev/sda05:47
bruenigthat might not be the latest but that is what it was named. Perhaps at the time it was named it was the latest05:47
ajhtiredwolfsethk: I was going to use ubuntu because no one in fedora will help you, they are just a bunch of punks over there. But im done, just done. Its not going to work05:47
ladydoorburritoortega: i don't know. look for an option to add an fs05:47
burritoortegaladydoor: i already did mkfs -t msdos /dev/sda05:47
StoneNotenownott, not that I know of.  there might be a forum at vmware you can ask that question at.05:47
sethkajhtiredwolf, it may, I've fixed a lot of bizarre X problems over the years.05:47
ladydoorburritoortega: while it was unmounted?05:47
burritoorteganope, mounted05:47
wesleydoes network-manager work with ndiswrapper?05:48
wsgAbst sweet, nice mac style look, there more on that area ?05:48
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sethkajhtiredwolf, if the issue is configuration and you can get more help for one than another, that's a rational reason to try another distro05:48
burritoortegaladydoor: is it the same if i unmount it via gui?05:48
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Abstwsg: Ask bruenig, I just pasted it05:48
sethkajhtiredwolf, but buying another graphics card is a lot less stressful05:48
ladydoorwesley: you can't configure ndiswrapper from it, but you can bring up the connection that ndiswrapper presents05:48
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ajhtiredwolfsethk: its just ive been at this for a very ... very long time. And I dont know enough about it to fix it. And I dont have the money for another card so, im just going to stick with windows I guess, much as I hate it.05:48
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wesleyladydoor: thanks.  I can't get it working since I updated from 51005:48
bruenigwsg, that has a lot of modifications done to it. If you want the base look of it, might want to try to find something else05:48
ladydoorburritoortega: i don't know, i don't usually use gui tools if i can avoid it05:49
brueniggoogle tends to do well with me05:49
nigelI need someone here who had knowledge of wireless networking...05:49
nigelhas*05:49
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burritoortegakq@dapper:~$ mkfs -t msdos /dev/sda05:49
burritoortegamkfs.msdos 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)05:49
burritoortegamkfs.msdos: unable to open /dev/sda05:49
ladydoorAbst: eh?05:49
Hexidigitalnigel::  what's the problem?05:49
elirandon't know05:49
burritoortegaladydoor: that's what i did05:49
sethkajhtiredwolf, best we can do here is try to help you configure it, and it appears the text mode install is your best option at this point.  but I can understand if you don't want to deal with it.05:49
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burritoortegaladydoor: after umounting it05:49
nigelhex: When I start to tax my internet connection , which is over the wireless , the connection goes down..05:49
ladydoorwesley: hmmm...ndiswrapper -l say "driver present, hardware present" or whatever?05:50
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nigelhex : And I'll have to disconnect the adapter , and reconnect , as the fastest way to get it back up..05:50
wsgbruenig yea, I know, I have OSX running on a INTEL PC, be nice to get Linux with the look, linux provides better "Support" but OSX is nice to try .05:50
Hexidigitalnigel::  anything particular throwing it off?05:50
ladydoorburritoortega: is it maybe /dev/sda1? that's what it is on mine (but i don't know)05:50
wesleyyeah05:50
ajhtiredwolfsethk: i'll give the text mode a shot, but im guessing x isnt going to work once its installed, and I have NO idea how to configure it, and i haven't been able to get any good help thus far, but i'll work on it tomorrow, for now sleep05:50
ajhtiredwolfthanks anyway05:50
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nigelhex: Downloads the majority of the time , but earlier uploads threw it off too...05:50
AbstWhere is the default web dir for apache?05:50
wesleyladydoor: i can bring it up with iwconfig/ifup05:50
nigelhex : extremely annoying..05:50
ergodoes anyone know how to configure  DAPPER to input japanese and chinese characters?05:50
Hexidigitalnigel::  what type of connection? cable/dsl?05:51
nigeldsl05:51
Abst"edubuntu05:51
nigel256 down , 128 up05:51
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ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org05:51
ladydoorwesley: hmmm...did you do ndiswrapper -m?05:51
ladydoorwesley: (sudo)05:51
wesleyladydoor: i remove the entries from /etc/network/interfaces and restart dbus and it detects it but won't go05:51
bruenigwsg, check out dreamlinux. Looks nearly identical http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-screen.html05:51
ladydoorwesley: oh. huh05:51
ladydoor:-(05:51
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Brokensteinhi what do i need for quicktime to work in firefox?05:52
nigelhex : any idea of what the problem may be ?05:52
wesleyladydoor: does it use dhcdbd?  I've got some errors in my logs05:52
StoneNoteergo, check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_type_extended_characters05:52
Hexidigitalnigel::  i dunno man.. that's out of my "turf".... i am better with hardware wireless config05:52
nigelhex : hmm..05:52
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ladydoorwesley: sorry...i've got nothing05:52
Hexidigitalnigel::  sorry05:52
nigelhex : Thanks for the effort though05:52
burritoortegaladydoor: mkfs.msdos: unable to open /dev/sda105:52
nigelhex : ;)05:52
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wesleyladydoor: ok thx anyway05:52
ladydoorburritoortega: are you sudoing? sorry, i'm kind of making this up as i go along05:52
sethknigel, when you say goes down, do you mean that literally?  when you do ifconfig, it doesn't show the interface?05:52
ladydoorwesley: :-/05:52
burritoortegaladydoor: i tried with and without sudo05:53
nigelYes , doesn't show any connection..05:53
angel12anyone have an atmel card in dapper?05:53
ladydoorburritoortega: oh...hm. Have you tried the livecd?05:53
wsgbruenig "sweet" like to install Ubuntu with that look.05:53
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ladydoorburritoortega: you can get it off their site05:53
ergook thanks a lot ..going to check it out now05:53
burritoortegaladydoor: nope, but that shouldn't change anything, should it?05:53
nigelhex : you know of any third party programs that may be able to help me sustain a connection ?05:53
ladydoorburritoortega: other than that i haven't the foggiest...sorry05:53
burritoortegaladydoor: thanks anyway05:53
ladydoorburritoortega: i don't know. probably not05:53
ladydoorburritoortega: sorry :-/05:54
burritoortegai have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do?05:54
bruenigwsg, if you do like dreamlinux I would caution you in using it as a lot of the documentation is in portugeese05:54
Hexidigitalnigel::  are you using gnome?05:54
nigelhex : yep05:54
bruenigwsg, oh yeah, that would take quite a bit of work05:54
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Hexidigitalnigel::  press tab after typing hex, so i can see a highlighted message, please :)05:54
dcstimm_hey guys, How do I burn the x86 and ppc isos to one disk so I dont have to carry around two?05:54
nigeloh , didn't know that lol , thanks05:54
jbroomedcstimm_: they won't fit05:55
nigelhex : works ?05:55
bruenigdcstimm_, I assume you have a dvd?05:55
Hexidigitalnigel::  if you dont mind downloading some KDE libraries, you can sudo apt-get install wireless-assistant05:55
dcstimm_jbroome, I modified them so they are 200mb05:55
nigelI have that..05:55
nigelI have kde and xfce installed also..05:55
wsgbruening gdesklette's ? "osx" theme ? wonder if there would be a way to import that "toolbar" into ubuntu ?05:55
Hexidigital!tab > nigel05:55
burritoortegai have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do ?05:55
Abst!you05:55
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:55
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DammitCoetzeei fix all my file system errors with a hammer05:55
Flannelburritoortega: unmount it first05:55
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bruenigwsg, that is xfce, ubuntu uses gnome, you could use gdesklets if you want for the dock but it won't look as polished as that05:55
Flannelburritoortega: that's probably why gparted is having issues too05:56
burritoortegaFlannel: when i unmount it, it doesn't "see it"05:56
nigelHexidigital: oh , i see..05:56
nigelIs that what your looking for ?05:56
Hexidigitalnigel::  wireless-assistant may be able to keep your connection up... or it may be interfering with another wireless program05:56
wsgbruenig this looks sweet ?  http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=screenshots/gnome214/CompizCubeEffect.png05:56
yggdrasildoes anyone here know of a web based thing like nukephp or xoops that is like a video gallery ?05:56
bruenigwsg, xgl and compiz, that is a headache05:57
nigelHexidigital: well , I can use it to reconnect , but on the other hand , it runs slowly and takes a while to put settings into place..05:57
dcstimm_bruenig, any idea?05:57
yggdrasilwhere i can just upload my video files .. kind of like a photo gallery05:57
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Hexidigitalnigel::  did you edit your /etc/network/interfaces file at all?05:57
nigelNo.05:57
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nigelHexidigital: No.05:57
bruenigdcstimm_, I couldn't think of a way to do it without modifying each of them so that you are given some sort of prompt allowing you to choose between them which I certainly don't know how you would do that05:57
Hexidigital!paste > nigel05:57
Hexidigitalnigel::  pastebin your /etc/network/interface file for me05:57
burritoortegaFlannel: mkfs.msdos: unable to open /dev/sda05:57
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burritoortegaFlannel: that's after unmounting it05:58
Hexidigitalnigel::  post the link when you are done05:58
dcstimm_bruenig, well thats not needed, I just need two sessions05:58
nigelHexidigital: ok05:58
wsgbrueniig that "3D" effect is supposed to be a part of the New Gnome ?05:58
Lard-O-LadHow can i use the DOM inspector for firefox with ubuntu?05:58
dcstimm_bruenig, pcs boot of the last session, and on mac it boots off hfs/iso hybrid only, so it will detect it05:58
nigelHexidigital: Can't we have a private chatroom ?05:58
Hexidigitalnigel::  sure, pm me05:58
dcstimm_bruenig, so if I can figure out multisession burning, I think it would work05:59
bruenigoh because the cd isn't writable after it I got you05:59
burritoortegai have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do?05:59
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ladydoor!repeat05:59
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience05:59
wsgHow do you configure that "3D" look in gnome ?06:00
bruenigwsg, that is compiz, that is a seperate thing from gnome altogether perhaps it will be integrated into the next gnome, kind of doubt it06:00
burritoortega!patience06:00
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:00
bruenig!xgl06:00
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:00
Hexidigitalnigel::  i sent you a PM06:00
jman8888Is there some kind of Cd Label maker for Ubuntu?06:00
bruenigwsg, use that link but be really careful, you could mess a lot up06:00
nigelHexidigital: Yeah , but I need to register..06:00
Hexidigitalah06:00
Hexidigital!register > nigel06:01
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bruenigassuming of course if you are really good06:01
nigelHexidigital: thanks06:01
jman8888bruenig, But i already have a Cd label thing with Areas for stuff to go to. Labelmaker labels.06:02
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wsgbruenig "Linux Pro Magazine" shows it as part of Gnome and part of the Dapper Release, Includes the Dapper Drake ubuntu on a DVD for you... So I got to disagree, they say it's in Gnome now06:02
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bruenigwsg, ok well then why aren't you doing it06:02
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bruenigsince it is in there do it06:02
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burritoortegawho asked about labels?06:03
bruenigdo the compiz cube that is integrated into gnome06:03
bruenigapparently06:03
jman8888burritoortega, Me...06:03
dcstimm_Anyone know how ubuntu sees the volume names of different drives that are plugged in?  For example I have a firewire hfsplus formatted harddrive and it knows the name of it, but I cant find any command line tools that tell me the same06:03
burritoortegajman8888: http://glabels.sourceforge.net/06:03
wsgbruening, dont see a "Tool" package... config manager ?06:03
burritoortegajman8888: http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm06:03
burritoortegajman8888: http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/downloads/labels/06:03
Brokensteincan anybody help me get quiktime working in firefox? i uninstalled all vlc and got mozilla-mplayer but still no go06:04
bruenigwsg, perhaps because it doesn't exist by default, you need to add things but you already are certain it is integrated which since it is, all of those people who wrote that guide must be retarded, I mean you wouldn't write a guide to do something that already exists by default06:04
burritoortegajman8888: i got them from this article mostly http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/04/165123406:04
ladydoordcstimm_: it uses the gnome-volume-manager. and you might try "less /etc/fstab" for a start :-)06:04
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wsgwhats "Gnome version in Dapper " ?06:05
dcstimm_ladydoor, ok, but if I am not running gnome will the volume manager work in the command line?06:05
ladydoorwsg: you can see it in synaptic06:05
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ladydoordcstimm_: try less /etc/fstab for a start06:05
burritoortegajman8888: did you find them useful?06:05
wsgladydoor have not installed "dapper yet"06:05
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ladydoordcstimm_: another option for things you plug in could be dmsg | tail06:05
dcstimm_ladydoor, i know how fstab work, but when I am not in the gui and I mount a volume I cant see the name of it06:05
wasedahi06:05
bruenig2.12 something or other06:05
ladydoordcstimm_: after you plug them in06:05
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jman8888burritoortega, Yes, But im not sure if they will work with my labels.06:06
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MegaqwertyHow do I add folders and programs to those folders under applications?06:06
dcstimm_ladydoor, that still doesnt show me the volume name, it shows me sda or what device name it has06:06
jman8888About to try06:06
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_priestMegaqwerty: apt-get install alacarte06:06
bruenigI suppose you are advocating compiling your own gnome?06:06
Megaqwertythanks06:06
wasedanow everything becomes "Read-only file system" with normal user, how can i do?06:06
ladydoordcstimm_: ah. well, i'im not sure what you're talking about then. sorry06:06
wsgLinux pro Magazine "page 49" article on Gnome 2.16 and 2.14" says "3D" in in the release"06:06
burritoortegajman8888: well they seem to be the best in label-making for linux, if you can't use them you're pretty much screwed06:06
dcstimm_ladydoor, so for example if I have a drive called "Bob's Backup Drive"  How do I find that info out?06:06
Amaranth_priest: All Ubuntu systems who have alacarte available have it installed by default.06:06
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_priestAmaranth: ah06:07
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wsgwhats current version of Gnome in Dapper06:07
ladydoordcstimm_: yeah...sorry. i really don't know :-(06:07
dcstimm_ladydoor, plugg that drive into macosx it mounts it as Bob's Backup Drive, and the same with ubuntu, but if I mount that drive manually I cant find that information06:07
ladydoorwsg: look at the gnome package in synaptic. as i said, it'll tell you.06:07
_priestAmaranth: never really messed with gnome, use fvwm mostly ;)06:07
ladydoordcstimm_: right, and i don't know where to find it. i'm sorry06:07
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CSWookieAh.  IRC in a civilized way.06:07
angel12well i guess atmel is broken in dapper. maybe i will come back with edgy06:07
sethk_priest, you can use fvwm with ubuntu if you wish.  I'm sure you don't wish ...06:08
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CSWookieLater folks.  Your livecd was quite helpful.06:08
AbstWhistle while you work, dooot de do do doo06:08
wsgladydoor have not installed "ubuntu" on this system yet, that mae doing what you ask kind of hard... so I asked !06:08
_priestsethk: yea i use fvwm-crystal with ubuntu06:08
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ladydoorwsg: oh! lol. just a second06:08
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wsgladydoor it's version 2.1406:08
realcoolguyany people using blender having issues importing .3ds files (I get a python script error) ?06:08
ladydoorwsg: ah06:08
_priestsethk: do you know where the locale gets set on debian systems06:09
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wsgat least according to the article i have06:09
ladydoorwsg: sweet.06:09
_priestsethk: i added a .desktop to my gdm session but its showing up as 'foo'06:09
_priesttried setting Name[en] =fvwm-crystal but no go06:09
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sethk_priest, check /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf, for starters06:09
sethk_priest, I'm not certain about locale, I'd have to look it up06:10
wsgladydoor beats Downloading, and shipit, got the "DVD" of Dapper, both a live and a Install DVD release...06:10
ladydoorwsg: errr...the livecd *is* the install cd06:10
wasedanmnguyet@ubuntu:~$ sudo su -06:10
wasedaPassword:06:10
wasedasudo: Can't open /var/run/sudo/nmnguyet/0: Read-only file system06:10
wasedapostdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system06:10
wasedaroot@ubuntu:~ # postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system06:10
wasedapostdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system06:10
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wasedapostdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system06:10
ladydoor!paste06:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:10
_priestsethk: looks like its read from /etc/gdm/locale.conf06:10
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sethk_priest, looks promising, yes06:11
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_priestsethk: ill set that and see06:11
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_priestperhaps just Name[en]  isn't being read must be Name[en_US] 06:11
sethk_priest, possible06:11
elhaxxorzcan someone help me get rid of this boot message?06:11
_priestcool thx06:11
wsgladydoor yea, like that new feature, use to get a live CD and a Install CD seperate, now "Dapper" includes all in one ... thats sweet. . .06:11
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jasmuzDoes anyone know about LM-SENSORS? query me if so..06:12
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elhaxxorzX: cannot stat /tmp/.X11-unix (Not a directory), aborting06:12
jman8888Can open office edit pdf's?06:12
ladydoorwsg: oh! haha. well, i never used a livecd before dapper06:12
ladydoorjman8888: it can save to a pdf06:12
jman8888ladydoor, Yes.06:12
ladydoorjman8888: there should be a tool to convert pdfs to text06:12
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ladydoorjman8888: (pdftotext--you can get it by installing xpdf)06:13
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holycow*ooo*06:13
wsgladydoor, oh. :-) np .... this makes my third release of UBUNTU to use ....06:13
holycowthunar is  a sweet file manager06:13
holycowneato06:13
sethkjman8888, I don't think you can go backwards, and modify an existing pdf06:13
ladydoorwsg: sweet06:13
ladydoorwsg: i always just installed and *then* checked it out. lol06:13
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jman8888sethk, :( My label's template is in a pdf. How can i work with that.06:14
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Abst!ask06:14
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:14
sethkjman8888, I don't know of a way06:14
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holycowyow, so fast06:14
ladydoorjman8888: does it have images or just text? if it's text, you can use pdftotext06:14
wsgladydoor been a "linux" user since Redhat 5.2 ... and then tried about ever Distro I could, then found Ubuntu and have stuck with it off and on for a long time now it seems ..06:14
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jman8888Image based.06:15
NetslayerI'm running dapper + kde and when i goto add more desktops, set it to 4 or anything, save. it won't apply it and won't show that i set 4 when i go back..any ideas?06:15
jman8888Its for making your labels to print06:15
Abstwsg: why do you put stuff in quotes?06:15
Netslayerit's not keeping my desktop number settings06:15
ladydoorwsg: sweet. i kind of accidentally got started when i accidentally deleted my windoze partition with hoary06:15
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wsgAbst habbit06:15
ladydoorjman8888: can the gimp do pdfs?06:15
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jman8888ladydoor, Have no clue.06:15
HYBHey guys06:15
jman8888!gimp pdf06:16
ubotugimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2712 kB, installed size 7648 kB06:16
Abst!ubotu06:16
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:16
harryis there a theme just look like windows for ubuntu???06:16
wsgladydoor I still stick with windows for my gamming, but slowly linux is getting the support for me needs.06:16
AbstErm06:16
AbstKDE looks a bit like windows06:16
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ladydoorwsg: :-)06:16
HYBGaim irc client... (cringe)06:16
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wsgHYB I agree gaim. Xchat a least would have been nice06:17
ladydoorHYB: try irssi :-)06:17
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HYBladydoor, i have irssi06:17
HYBand i'm on it06:17
ladydoorHYB: oh06:17
NoNickim on a nintendo ds06:17
wubrgamerwhich user owns the apache daemon by default ?06:17
HYBit's just on a different server06:17
wubrgamerwhich user owns the apache daemon by default ?06:17
harryAbst: i noticed that quite a bit. but to look like windows XP. is there a theme like that for ubuntu?06:17
wubrgamersorry didn't mean 2 spam06:17
InvisiblePinkUniwireless is driving me nuts :o06:17
HYBharry, wouldn't that defeat the purpose?06:18
Abstharry: I doubt it, alot of users here dislike WinXO06:18
AbstXP06:18
AbstXSuck06:18
HYBi hate windows wih a passion <.<06:18
wsgHard to believe Ubuntu has now Exceeded Debian in irc users06:18
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yggdrasildoes anyone here know of a web based thing like nukephp or xoops or a photo gallery but more like  a video gallery ?06:18
InvisiblePinkUniafter following this wireless howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDevice%2FAcx111 my card which was recognized previously was not recognized anymore.... :o06:18
AbstErm06:18
AbstThats not linux related06:19
InvisiblePinkUni!wireless06:19
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:19
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HYBHey, if any of you have installed XGL, I was wondering if yall would know how to utilize the zoom function, i can't figure it out =/06:19
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jman8888How come in kde when i move a program to another desktop i still see it in my bar.06:19
wsgan I dont get Gentoo's Following, thats a little to "Hard Core" linux for my taste :)06:19
MegaqwertyWhat is the best free anti-virus program for Linux?06:19
ladydoor!best06:19
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.06:19
HYBterminal06:19
AbstMegaqwerty: You don't need one06:19
wsgMegaqwerty AVG06:19
wasedanmnguyet@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /06:19
Megaqwertythanks06:19
wasedaok just that06:19
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tainted-hi06:19
ladydoor!virus06:19
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2106:19
tainted-anyone here do ubuntu dev06:19
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wubrgamerwhich user owns the apache daemon by default ? on ubuntu ?06:20
tainted-i have a bug that i'm going to spend about 5 seconds sharing06:20
AbstLadydoor has the whole bot db memorized.06:20
MegaqwertyI just want to be safe :)06:20
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ladydoortainted-: i think there's a #ubuntu-dev channel06:20
HYBanyone here that's installed XGL know how to zoom?06:20
AbstMegaqwerty: You already are06:20
ladydoorAbst: actually, i just kind of make things up and they often work :-)06:20
Abstladydoor: haha06:20
bhrobinsonmy sound has quit responding... is there a way to get ALSA to redetect the sound card without rebooting?06:20
Megaqwertyso then what is the point of AV software for linux?06:20
AbstTo get money for companies06:20
ladydoorAbst: that's basically how i do most things...guess, ask questions, and tinker until i like it06:21
Megaqwertyah, thank you for that.06:21
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AbstThats basically it06:21
AbstAnd sending files to windows users06:21
AbstExes06:21
dcstimm_Hey guys, where can I find a changelog for 6.06.1 and 6.06 for ppc desktop?06:21
Netslayerany ideas why my kubuntu dapper install  wont let me save desktop configurations (ie i want more desktops and if i drag past 1 it wont save)06:21
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ladydoorNetslayer: #kubuntu willl probably provide better answers :-)06:21
bhrobinsonmy sound has quit responding... is there a way to get ALSA to redetect the sound card without rebooting?06:22
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ladydoor!repeat06:22
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:22
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AbstI am using Gaim06:22
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ladydoorAbst: ok06:23
dcstimm_Hey guys, where can I find a changelog for 6.06.1 and 6.06 for ppc desktop?06:23
dcstimm_what is the difference between 6.06.1 and 6.06?06:23
Abst!repeat06:23
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:23
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mkquist_bhrobinson-http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 might be a good place to start06:24
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ladydoordcstimm_: if you've installed 6.06 and done your updates, you *have* 6.06.106:24
bhrobinsonmkquist_, thanks... let me look06:24
ladydoordcstimm_: (i think)06:24
wikijeffWhy am I getting a "dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened." error when I try to compile LaTeX programs with Texmaker??06:24
dcstimm_ladydoor, no im interested in the livecd06:24
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ladydoordcstimm_: ohhhh06:24
Slayer20003can anyone help a noob? hehe06:24
Abst!ask06:24
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:24
ladydoor!anyone06:24
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:24
wsgWhats next release going to be named ? anyone know ?06:24
mkquist_lol06:24
AbstLol06:24
Slayer20003hah06:24
tritiumwsg: edgy eft06:24
AbstI refuse to be beaten06:24
ladydoorwsg: edgy eft06:24
InvisiblePinkUniubotu... how old are you?06:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about how old are you? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:24
dcstimm_ladydoor, 6.06 has alot of problems on ppc machines, I want to know if anything was fixed in 6.06.106:25
mkquist_lol, being coy06:25
NickGarveyInvisiblePinkUni: its a bot06:25
Abstubotu... youself06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about youself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
ladydoordcstimm_: aha.06:25
NickGarveyhow can I resize an ext3 partition? I am not getting the option in qtparted06:25
mkquist_lol06:25
ladydoor!6.06.106:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 6.06.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
mkquist_!help06:25
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:25
AbstNickGarvey: I think you have to do it out of the partition06:25
ladydoordcstimm_: you might try googling it.....06:25
AbstNickGarvey: Can't resize it while its in use.06:25
NickGarveyAbst: its not mounted06:25
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AbstNickGarvey: Dunno then06:25
dcstimm_ladydoor, have06:25
Slayer20003just threw ubuntu on an old rig, and this is my first deal with Linux......I'm trying to run Folding@Home on this rig, and the dl from their site for linux was an EXE file....how do i run this in ubuntu?06:25
ladydoordcstimm_: ah. :-(06:25
AbstNickGarvey:  I've resized ext306:26
Abstubotu... ext306:26
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org06:26
wsgSome guru needs to get QEMU to run "UBUNTU" inside windows ... lol06:26
ladydoorwsg: why not just install ubuntu? lol06:26
jpjacobsNickGarvey, i heard it's just about deleting the partition with fdisk, and then recreating a larger one on the same space, your data should then be there (but don't blame me if it doesn't work, never tried it myself)06:26
sethkjpjacobs, no, no, no, that will NOT work06:27
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NickGarveyjpjacobs: mm.. I don't think..06:27
AbstI doubt anyone would try that06:27
Abstlol06:27
ladydoorSlayer20003: if it's a windowz .exe, you'll need wine...otherwise, you can do it in a terminal (if it's executable) with ./filename.exe06:27
sethkAbst, somebody might _try_ it, but nobody will _succeed_  :)06:27
mkquist_ouch06:27
cliffdcan anyone explain to me the process of patching the kernel for ubuntu? I only know the ins and outs from a gentoo or fedora aspect. thanks.06:27
sethkcliffd, the kernel is the kernel, really06:27
bhrobinsonmkquist_,  my sound was working earlier, I would just prefer not to reboot. Is there a way to get alsa to redetect without reboot?06:28
AbstA certain bot could explain something here06:28
sethkcliffd, other than the path where the source is installed, all distros are the same06:28
cliffdsethk: do I need to re package my patched kernel into an apt-get package?06:28
wsgwell off to read on Ubuntu and get ready to install ... later all ... :)06:28
ladydoorwsg: :-)06:28
tritiumcliffd: no, but you can06:28
Slayer20003ladydoor, i tried that, and their site mentiones using chmod -x then the file name, and THEN running ./filename.exe, but nothing happens06:28
sethkcliffd, no, just install it, but you can package it that way if you have a good reason to do it06:28
cliffdtritium: whats the clean way of doing it? and if I upgrade my kernel I would assume I have to patch it again. right?06:28
sethkSlayer20003, you can't run a windows executable natively in linux.  try it with wine06:28
ladydoorSlayer20003: ok...you might well need wine, because they're just trying to pawn off w windowz binary on you.06:28
mkquist_bhrobinson-lemme look a mo06:29
ladydoor!wine06:29
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:29
cliffddoes ubuntu update the kernel or does it stay the same like debian?06:29
tritiumcliffd: the debian/ubuntu way is in fact to use kernel-package to build your own .deb06:29
AbstSlayer20003: sudo apt-get install wine06:29
sethkcliffd, you would use the "make oldconfig" capability of the kernel to migrate to newer versions06:29
holycowcliffd, both update kernels, watcha talkin about?06:29
sethkcliffd, this is one case where using the package manager makes your life much more difficult06:29
holycow*scroll* *scroll*06:29
holycowoh, my answer makes sense OUT of context :) ignore me06:30
Abst /clear06:30
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cliffdok, so I can just build it and install it good to go. no really reason I would need to make a .deb and install it that way?06:30
mkquist_bhrobinson-dont know, I'm pretty new too, sorry06:31
holycowcliffd, you would wnat a deb to uninstall it later06:31
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bhrobinsonno prob. Let me restartt the GDM and see06:31
holycowbut for a kernel thatas really almost pointless, one file to delete manually06:31
cliffdholycow: or just let it sit there or be written over when the new one comes out?06:31
cliffdok thanks all06:31
holycowcliffd, or that06:31
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AbstAnyone know what the default web dir is in apache2?06:32
AbstIm using the ubuntu distro.06:32
Abst>_>06:32
NickGarveyAbst: /var/www I believe06:32
NickGarveyAbst: just do "cd /; find -name index.html06:32
Abst"Thankyou06:32
cliffd/var/www but it depends on what the prefix was set to06:32
feliciano_somebody have installed OpenArena?06:32
AbstHow would I chmod a directory to make it writable by all06:33
Abstchmod dir 777?06:33
cliffdit seems odd to me that apache would pick /var for its default place for content. anyone else?06:33
cliffdchmod dir a+w also06:33
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cliffdbut yeah, the 777 make it so people can not only write but execute commands in that dir and read what they wrote06:33
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sethkAbst, don't use numbers.  use a+w.  777 allows everyone to do everything, which I doubt you want06:35
sethkAbst, but even if you do, it's a bad habit to use numbers where symbols are available06:35
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AbstWill remember06:35
w30Abnix, chmod -R ugoa+w directoryname06:35
IceToxHello guys! Whenever I make a restart on my computer, somehow my network card is dead. I always need to deactivate it through the system->Administration->Networking and than activate it again, and it works ok. Now, isn't there anything to do about this? I'd really like it to work at once :)06:36
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AbstBuy a new network card.06:36
AbstShould fix it06:36
Abst>_>06:36
sethkIceTox, check the configuration06:36
IceToxlol Abst06:36
AbstNo really that will fix it06:36
sethkIceTox, I would try to sniff packets during the startup and see what causes the problem06:37
cliffdok, install time06:37
IceToxsethk, that gives me nothing. (at least the graphical configuration.) seems all ok :)06:37
cliffdbbiab, hopefully06:37
IceToxgood luck cliffd :)06:37
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cliffdIceTox: thanks.06:37
AbstSame here06:37
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sethkIceTox, using dhcp, I assume06:37
Abst!question06:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:38
IceToxI should disable dhcp you think sethk ?06:38
sethkIceTox, if you can use a static ip, that will fix the problem06:38
IceToxwell, fair enough, my router is in deed running dhcp06:38
sethkIceTox, well, hack around it, really, not fix it06:38
sethkIceTox, but the effect will likely be the same06:38
IceToxsethk, If I only were as good as you guys :)06:38
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w30IceTox, check your bootlogs and sdd if the interface comes up on boot, maybe eth0 don't start or sumptn'06:39
w30sdd/see06:39
AbstI have a copy of hoary here06:39
SJr|nxI'm installing Ubuntu for the first time, but I've been using debian for a few years, during the install is there anything I just watch out for like a cavot06:39
SJr|nxor can I just blow thru it06:39
SJr|nxreading every 2nd word06:39
IceToxroot@madelaine:~# ifconfig06:40
IceToxeth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:D3:15:2F:0806:40
IceTox          inet addr:10.0.0.4  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.006:40
AbstInstall is pretty simple06:40
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sethkSJr|nx, odds are you can blast through it06:40
AbstBut if it says EXPLODE HD do not do that06:40
AbstThat is bad06:40
IceToxI can set this as a static configuration than sethk ?06:40
IceToxoh crap06:40
IceToxneed to reach the bus! worktime :|06:40
sethkIceTox, sure, you can, but you have to tell the router to reserve the address06:40
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AbstSJr|nx: Install is strightforward seriously. Takes about 20 mins max for me, and its not hard.06:40
sethkIceTox, to make sure the router doesn't give that address to another host when it gets a dhcp request06:41
AbstIts only 5 steps06:41
AbstIf I remember06:41
IceToxsethk, well, I'm running with tp cable, so I guess that specific IP is kinda mine anyway :)06:41
holycowthats with the graphical installer via live cd06:41
AbstYes it is.06:41
sethkIceTox, that doesn't follow06:41
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SJr|nxHey06:41
SJr|nxhmmm06:41
SJr|nxdoes the live cd support suspend 206:41
holycowyou still have the option of using the text based installer that asks you a few more questions ,but after they are asked it doesn't stop half way06:41
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IceToxsethk, how do I find out what my gateway is?06:42
IceToxshould it be listed in ifconfig sethk ?06:42
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sethkIceTox, no.  run route  (with no arguments)   and find the default route06:43
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sethkIceTox, the default route has ip 0.0.0.006:43
IceToxah, thanks sethk :)06:43
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Abst!install06:44
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues06:44
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QQQOmniDhow to install .rpm06:44
QQQOmniD!rpm06:44
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).06:44
Abst!rpm06:44
AbstOops06:44
bthorntonAnybody know of a good (i.e. user-friendly) TV-viewing application other than Tvtime I can run in Ubuntu/GNOME?  I'm running Xgl and apparently Tvtime doesn't play well with that.06:44
holycow!alien06:44
QQQOmniD!alien06:44
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).06:44
SJr|nxWhats the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?06:45
tritiumbthornton: try zapping or xawtv06:45
AbstDont type it twice06:45
AbstIt'll say it twice now06:45
bthorntontritium: will look; thanks06:45
holycowSJr|nx, nothing, just the default de in kubuntue is kde06:45
sethkSJr|nx, kubuntu installs the kde desktop by default, ubuntu installs gnome06:45
SJr|nxis the install cd a live cd too?06:45
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SJr|nxor is that seperate06:45
AbstXubuntu installs something else06:45
bhrobinsonok, two questions... I am need to reboot, but I have a 1 gig NFS server that I want to auto mount on boot. What file do I need to set that in. And second, I have 4 displays, but cannot get videos to display on one of the 4 screens... any ideas?06:45
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sethkSJr|nx, for the newest release the install cd is also the live cd06:45
sethkSJr|nx, for the previous version they were separate06:46
SJr|nxhurrah06:46
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holycowSjB, one is live, other two offer installation options including text installer06:46
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QQQOmniD!alien > QQQOmniD06:46
SJr|nxand finally does anyone know if the live cd supports suspend2?06:46
AbstSJr|nx: Once you get onto the live CD desktop, there is a folder named Examples and a Install program06:46
SJr|nxi.e. can you hibernate or suspend your notebook with the live cd06:46
holycowsethk, for the newer they have alternate and server installers that also offer text based besides live cd06:46
hazarathNeed codec for 'FPS1'.06:46
bhrobinsonbthornton, have you looked at MythTV?06:46
AbstExamples is stuff Ubuntu can do06:46
QQQOmniDIt doesn't say why it's dangerous06:46
AbstInstall is the installer06:46
SJr|nxI'd be interested in trying it on my notebook06:46
SJr|nxand seeing if it can do what debian can't :)06:46
sethkholycow, yes, I should have mentioned that also06:46
AbstSJr|nx: It has the option, dunno if it works06:46
SJr|nxor I should say, what I can't06:46
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QQQOmniDSo I cannoy use LimeWire :c06:47
SJr|nxhurrah06:47
bthorntonbhrobinson: yes, but it's far too complicated a piece of software to setup for my purposes right now06:47
holycowSJr|nx, btw, live cd installer isn't trully trustworthy, for me it has been broken on 50% of all attempts on different boxes06:47
QQQOmniD*cannot06:47
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holycowit depends06:47
AbstSame06:47
AbstYou have to try a few times06:47
AbstBut meh06:47
squeaksi want my X server to start sometimes with my alternative ServerLayout in xorg.conf, i had been doing startx -- -layout Multihead, but I had to hack at the runlevel that gdm runs at, and telinit to a higher runlevel06:47
thyboworked fine for me all the times06:47
holycowor download the alternate iso and use the text installer ... di rules06:47
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AbstUse LiveCD methinks06:47
kohr_how would i give azureus the athurity to write on a fat32 partiton06:47
Abst!ntfs06:48
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:48
SJr|nxthanks06:48
AbstOops06:48
SJr|nxokay06:48
SJr|nxthanks06:48
SJr|nxlata06:48
sethksqueaks, you can modify the config so that gdm doesn't auto-restart, but I don't think that's any better than the solution you are using06:48
holycowkohr_, the same way you give everything persm on linux ... the user under which it runs has to have permissions to to write to dir06:48
squeakskohr_, mount with -o umask option, probably06:48
thybohow do you make a webcam work when easycam 1 and 2 fail to do it?06:48
holycow!fstab06:48
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions06:48
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skuz`yeah06:48
skuz`nothin06:49
bhrobinsonok, two questions... I am need to reboot, but I have a 1 gig NFS server that I want to auto mount on boot. What file do I need to set that in. And second, I have 4 displays, but cannot get videos to display on one of the 4 screens... any ideas?06:49
Abstthybo: The webcam may be unsupported06:49
kohr_squeaks, mount the partition with that?06:49
thybono i think it is06:49
Abst!patience06:49
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:49
hazarathNeed FPS1 codec, please.06:49
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thyboits a spacecam 320 saw it on suported list06:49
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squeakskohr_, man mount and find under FAT the umask option, probably mount -o umask=0222 /dev/* /mnt/* or similar06:49
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sethkbhrobinson, you can add an NFS mount to fstab like any other mount06:50
holycow!fps106:50
kohr_squeaks, k thanks, i;ll try that06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fps1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:50
holycowhazarath, no frickin clue, google that06:50
hazarathIt's Fraps encoding.06:50
sethkbhrobinson, for the displays, what video card(s)?  two dual output cards, four separate cards, ???06:50
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AbstYou'll need fraps I guess06:50
hazarathTried.06:50
AbstI doubt its an open source codec06:50
hazarathWon't install.06:50
dalbericanyone run Quad SLI and ubuntu yet?06:51
AbstWont install on linx?06:51
Abstlinux06:51
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hazarathNot with Wine or Cedega06:51
AbstHmm06:51
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Hmmmmhi guys, im on dapper, and my Xorg seems to be hogging memory. anything i can do to stop/reduce that?06:51
AbstGot a buddy who has linux?06:51
AbstHmmmm: Uninstall it06:51
CrescendoI get a buzzing sound over my speakers on Dapper Drake whenever my HDD seeks06:51
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CrescendoHow would I fix this issue?06:51
HmmmmAbst: hahaha06:52
bhrobinsonsethk, awesome! you have been fantastic in this transition... as for the video cards, they are 2 dual head. I was trying both as Nvidia 5200, but they did not work together. The drivers were taken over by the AGP, so now I am running an AGP Matrox 450 and a PCI 520006:52
hazarathYa, why?06:52
AbstWhat? thats how i'd fix it06:52
AbstLol06:52
holycowHmmmm, wtf?  there is no such thing as hogging mermory06:52
Abst!xorg06:52
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:52
holycowHmmmm, this isn't windows, linux will use as much ram as it decides to06:52
AbstHaha06:52
holycowHmmmm, it won't affect anything let linux do its thing, leave microsoft to redmond06:52
Abstthis my MY ram do GET YOUR PAWS OFF06:52
w30Crescendo, stick a tinfoil hat between the hard drive and the sound card :=)06:52
Hmmmmholycow: yes there is, but to drive the machine to a point where windows leaving tails behind when dragges, no06:53
CrescendoLol, thanks w3006:53
CrescendoY'know - that just MIGHT work.06:53
thybouh, about my webcam:p06:53
squeakssethk, which configuration file tells gdm whether or not to start?06:53
Abst!repeat06:53
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:53
holycowHmmmm, no there isn't, there are memory leaks, so far on dapper i haven't noticed anything of the sort and neither has the bugtracker06:53
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sethksqueaks, /etc/inittab06:54
w30Crescendo, seriously, can you move your sound card in your box further from the hard drive?06:54
Hmmmmholycow: i meant dragging a window (aka in firefox) leaves a tail behind06:54
cyphaseanyone been having sound problems06:54
AbstHey jose06:54
holycowyou also get into a problem of trying to REALLY see how much memory is being used06:54
cyphasewhere the sound stops working06:54
holycowon linux almost everything relies on shared libraries06:54
bhrobinsonAbst, you enjoy that macro, don't you? <grin>06:54
thybosorry abst06:54
Abstcyphase: Loads of people06:54
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holycowthere is no REAL way to tell what process owns what an dhow much06:54
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Abstthybo Its true, noone knows so we can't help#06:54
dalbericmy sound is low06:54
thybo:) np06:54
holycowHmmmm, get a new video card :)06:54
Hmmmmholycow: i'm looking at Xorg on "top" for the past couple of days. its taking up 15% of my 512 MB of RAM06:54
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hazarathAbst, no help there?06:54
dalbericin gxine and rhythmbox06:55
Hmmmm20% sometimes06:55
Absthazarath: Help where?06:55
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AbstWiki?06:55
holycowHmmmm, you think thats a lot?06:55
bhrobinsonsethk, did you get my message on that? Also, I am looking at the fstab and not quite sure how to mount the NFS in there.06:55
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InvisiblePinkUni!asterisk06:55
holycowHmmmm, window trails HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RAM06:55
ubotuasterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX) - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.7.1.dfsg-2ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 213 kB, installed size 560 kB06:55
Hmmmmholycow: yes i do. but thats why i'm here to check06:55
Crescendow30, nope, the sound card is actually on board06:55
holycowHmmmm, your assigning the sypmtoms to the wrong cause06:55
denver1hi can anyone tell me how to make a boot disk using smart boot manager?06:55
=== Abst comforts holycow.
bhrobinsonAlso, it takes about 45 seconds to mount when I do it... any ideas as to why?06:55
hazarathAbst, with playing those vids.06:55
holycowHmmmm, thats why im telling you, it has nothing to do with ram06:55
dalbericwindow trails have to do with monitor refresh rate06:55
Absthazarath: I got nothing then06:56
Hmmmmholycow: okay if u say so06:56
hazarathhttp://video.fraps.com/Ballance.zip is an example of the vid format.06:56
dalbericup your screen refresh rate hmmm06:56
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Hmmmmy machine is unbelieavable slow all of a sudden.06:56
holycowHmmmm, either you gpu is slow or your drivers suck, or a combination of both.  there is some possibility of other variables entering into the equation such as a slow system bus if you are burning cds or transferring vast amounts of data but it has  nothing to do with xorg using 15% of ram06:56
sethkbhrobinson, is it a directory with a very large number of subdirectories?06:56
holycowthat is such a windows question06:56
sethkbhrobinson, nfs mounts typically take less than one second06:56
shinta42I just swapped physicall my harddrive from secondary master to primary master...what do i need to edit in order for grub to boot it?06:57
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Abstshinta42: /boot/grub/menu.lst06:57
AbstAt the bottom06:57
holycowHmmmm, what you should do is mabye is open up system monitor06:57
AbstOr06:57
bhrobinsonsethk, there are about 20 directories under the main, but there might be 4000 or more under that... it is a 1tb filesystem06:57
AbstDo sudo grub-update06:57
sethkshinta42, /boot/grub/menu.lst, and a reinstall of grub on the mbr06:57
holycowshmm then adjust it to show cpu usage06:57
AbstThat will do it automatically I think06:57
Hmmmmanyways, holycow and Abst thanks. will try and see what i can find out on google06:57
dalbericxorg is not even in running proceses06:57
AbstNp!06:57
sethkbhrobinson, that's your problem, it is indexing all of those directories06:57
holycowHmmmm, a lot of times its an application stuck in a loop in the back ground .06:57
shinta42abst:command not found06:58
Hmmmmholycow: ic06:58
AbstHmm06:58
dalberictry rebooting06:58
AbstHoly on06:58
bhrobinsonsethk, am I asking too much? <grin> Is there a way to have that already indexed?06:58
AbstHold06:58
sethkbhrobinson, there are strategies for dealing with it.06:58
holycowHmmmm, you can add the system monitor applet to your task bar as well to monitor system performance, cpu usage, hd usage, traffic, etc06:58
sethkbhrobinson, let me see what I can find.06:58
holycowthat can give you a good glance as to the raw chunks of interesting things happening on your system, then go from there06:58
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Abstshinta42: I can't remember the command, but it automatically does menu.lst i'll try google06:59
AbstAh!06:59
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Abstsudo update-grub06:59
denver1hi can anyone tell me how to make a cd  boot disk using smart boot manager?06:59
Abst!repeat07:00
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience07:00
shinta42abst:first i need to mount my hd right lol07:00
AbstHehe07:00
AbstThat would help07:00
shinta42abst:how do i switch from bootdisk to hd?07:00
AbstWhat do you mean07:00
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shinta42abst:right now my ubuntu disc is mounted07:00
dalbericok i just got this error doing sudo sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 30 03:56:35 200607:00
shinta42abst:i need to mount my hd07:00
dalbericwtf07:01
HmmmmInvisiblePinkUni: you into asterisk?07:01
AbstYes07:01
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shinta42abst:right now i just booted off ubuntu cd ...07:01
AbstSo your on a livecd?07:01
shinta42abst:yah thats why i meant07:01
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AbstSo is ubuntu installed on this 2nd hdd?07:01
InvisiblePinkUniHmmmm: i want asterisk.... but know almost nothing about configuring it and stuff....07:01
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shinta42abst:ubuntu was installed i just swapped hd from secondary to primary07:01
Hmmmmso you want to install asterisk on ur desktop?07:01
ceruleantigerIs there any way to use a standard liveCD to install ubuntu on a macbook? I'm scared of the command line provided by the mactel-ubuntu liveCD... :(07:02
tehsuIs there anyway to undervolt the centrino on linux?07:02
dalbericHOW DO I SWITCH FROM GRUBS TEXT INTERFACE TO THE GRAPHICAL INTERFACE??07:02
AbstI think07:02
JoseStefan!caps07:02
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:02
shinta42abst:i remember there was this command where one can remount from livecd to the system on hd07:02
Abstsudo mount hda2 /mount/hda207:02
AbstMaybe or something07:02
JustawayFor those who were looking for an audio editor for Ubuntu - That is more sophisticated then the primitive "Audacity" - check out "Rezound"07:02
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Abstshinta42: I dunno that one07:02
Abst!remount07:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:03
Abst!livecd07:03
ubotuUbuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.07:03
bhrobinsonInvisiblePinkUni, If you are trying to learn asterisk, I would suggest starting with astlinux. there is a livecd and that way when you screw up, it is easy to fix <grin>07:03
dalbericHOW DO I SWITCH FROM GRUBS TEXT INTERFACE TO THE GRAPHICAL INTERFACE??07:03
Abstdalberic: Caps lock off and we might listen07:03
holycowoh for f's sake --> http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/faq.html07:03
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AbstHaha07:03
InvisiblePinkUnibhrobinson: oh thats great.... thanks :)07:03
shinta42abst:say i just mount my hd to a dir...i just go into /dir/boot and run update-grub ..?07:03
AbstIts stupid07:03
Skuz`yeah i recommend you just get the alt disc since it has a real installer that actually works.07:03
Charon1Am am trying out ubuntu for the first time, and can you install with sw raid 0 from the desktop install cd ? If so are there any docs ?07:03
shinta42abst:will that do it ? or do i need to remount the entire filesystem to hd in order for update-grub to work properly07:03
Abstshinta Lemme check --help07:03
InvisiblePinkUni!redhat07:04
ubotuOther Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware07:04
Abst!update-grub07:04
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InvisiblePinkUni!windows07:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about update-grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:04
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm07:04
tehsu!undervolt07:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about undervolt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:04
Abstshinta: You have to be on the drive you are updating I believe07:04
dalberichow do i switch from grub's text interface to the graphical interface07:04
shinta42anyone uses a VT82C IDE interface?07:04
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Abstshinta42: If you download and burn a disk named Super Grub Disk - that is extreamly useful07:04
shinta42abst:....so i need to remount the filesystem to hd...07:04
AbstIt is install grub for you07:04
Charon1!raid007:04
AbstAnd autodetect07:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about raid0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:05
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dalberic!grub07:05
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:05
ajaymy god what next07:05
shinta42!via07:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:05
tehsulatest kernel?07:05
tehsu!kernel07:05
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:05
bhrobinsonInvisiblePinkUni, however, if you do not care to learn it, just use, you might want to look at freepbx, or even better, there is trixbox - it is built on the CentOS 4.207:05
shinta42abst:....what should i do...reinstall? lol07:05
AbstNo07:05
InvisiblePinkUni:) ta bhrobinson07:06
AbstHold on07:06
shinta42abst:ok thanks07:06
shinta42anyone uses a VT82C IDE interface?07:06
InvisiblePinkUnito learn or just use.... that is the question07:06
mkquist_!god07:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:06
InvisiblePinkUni!ubotu07:06
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:06
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cliffdhi, so I just installed. whats the username?07:07
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ajaycliffd, its the one you woudl have given during install07:07
cliffdajay, it didnt ask for one07:07
Abstshinta42: This is from the wiki.. 1. Type grub. 2. type root(hd0,0) First number is the hd#, second is partition #. 3. setup (hd#) 6. Quit07:07
holycowcliffd, it did ask you07:07
holycowcliffd, its impossible to install it without filling out that form07:07
holycowyou just forgot07:08
ajayit would surely ask for one.07:08
holycow:)07:08
Abst7. reboot07:08
cliffdholycow: I did the oem install from the additional cd07:08
shinta42abst:do i need to mount my hd?07:08
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cliffdand it never asked me for a root password07:08
holycowcliffd, been a while since i installed that one, you got me there :)07:08
holycowcliffd, there isno root pass07:08
Abstshinta42: imma pm you07:08
ajayah! root is not enabled by default07:08
cliffdwow. thats crazy. neat idea07:08
holycowthe first user has sudo priviledges the other after do not by default07:09
ajaywhatever user you created has admin/root previlages07:09
holycowcliffd, its not crazy its good security07:09
cliffdso, not quite sure. ill reboot into knoppix and look at the password file.07:09
cliffdholycow: yeah I agree07:09
gn0meheh07:09
ajayand its simpler too07:09
JoseStefanroot has a disabled empty password, so you can't login with root07:09
holycowthe ONLY problem is that newbs dont understand SUDO and by default setup weak passwords07:09
AbstRoot is god.07:09
holycowbut alas ... at least each user is probably unique07:09
w30cliffd, if you forgot it then type in passwd and make a new one07:10
cliffdcrazy from where im coming from.  so what password do you give when you need to make changes to things? or is your account authenicated to do root like things. change network settings. etc etc07:10
Abstshinta42: ?07:10
shinta42abst:lemme try07:10
gn0mecliffd: You use your own account's password07:10
holycoww30, if you cannot root you cannot change passwd bro ... that is if you have no sudo access touche ... he doesn't seem to07:10
ajaycliffd, yes it has all the privs07:10
Abstshinta42: Wait07:10
shinta42abst:yah?07:10
Charon1Am am trying out ubuntu for the first time, and is there anyway to install with sw raid 0 from the desktop install cd ? If so are there any docs ?07:10
JoseStefancliffd, you use sudo07:10
cliffdgreat. thanks.07:10
Abstshinta42: Go to Administrator -> Gnome PArtitioner07:10
cliffdno. I swear it didnt ask for a username07:10
shinta42abst:ok07:11
holycowyou might be able to login using recovery mode or whatever its called, that should toss you to root unless that is locked off07:11
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JoseStefanmaybe it created user "ubuntu"07:11
HmmmmInvisiblePinkUni: it is quite simple to build asterisk on any distro using the SVN sources07:11
cliffdJoseStefan: tried that07:11
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Abstshinta42: On it?07:11
cliffdtrying recovery mode07:11
shinta42abst:root is on /dev/hda707:11
AbstOkay07:12
AbstWhat hard disk #?07:12
shinta42abst:i only have 1 hd07:12
AbstOkay07:12
AbstSo its /dev/hda707:12
InvisiblePinkUniHmmmm: but i use svn only on windows machine with tortoise....07:12
AbstGo to terminal07:12
AbstAnd type grub07:12
shinta42abst:okay i am in07:12
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Abstsudo grub07:12
shinta42abst:done07:12
w30cliffd, you can't sudo?07:12
HmmmmInvisiblePinkUni: that's okay. there's plenty of tutorials out there to help you get started with building astersk from source07:12
Absttype root(hd0,7)07:13
cliffdw30: im stuck at the gdm login07:13
InvisiblePinkUniHmmmm: if i have 2 ip phones.... can i transfer calls from one ip phone to another....?07:13
holycowcliffd, in recovery mode it will let you adduser wher eyou can add a user and so forth07:13
HmmmmInvisiblePinkUni: the real questions is what you are looking to do with asterisk07:13
holycowdon't forget to add the user to the admin group07:13
HmmmmInvisiblePinkUni: also, if I'm not mistaken, you take apt-get install asterisk on ubuntu07:13
shinta42abst:unrecognized command07:13
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Abstshinta42: root (hd0,7)07:13
cliffdah, my bad for doing the oem thing, the user is oem07:13
AbstA space07:13
shinta42abst:  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x8207:14
w30cliffd, have you made two users?07:14
cliffdthanks for the help guys. recovery mode is a nice feature07:14
AbstOkay07:14
cliffdw30, im going to login with oem and see what happens07:14
HmmmmInvisiblePinkUni: you cna do all sorts of magic with asterisk07:14
AbstTry setup (hd0)07:14
InvisiblePinkUniHmmmm: i hope so.... he he he07:14
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shinta42abst: Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition07:14
Hmmmmhttp://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Linux+Ubuntu07:14
JustawayAnyone have an idea why my mic does not work in Ubuntu? - I can hear it through the headphones, but Audacity or Rezound do not record anything.. I have all my mixer controls way up also.07:14
AbstHmm07:14
AbstYou've got a problem07:14
kohr_still trying to let azureus write to a win32 partition07:14
AbstCan you unmount the hda7 again07:15
shinta42abst:i didnt mount it07:15
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Hmmmmmy asterisk box allows users to make calls to 33 countries' landlines and mobiles for free07:15
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InvisiblePinkUniHmmmm: tell me more please07:15
Abstshinta42: Okay07:15
holycowlol07:15
InvisiblePinkUniis New Zealand one of them?07:16
holycowhe works for the fbi07:16
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Abstshinta42: Mount it then to /mnt/07:16
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InvisiblePinkUniHmmmm: which ip phone lets you do that?07:16
holycowif you want cousin osama not to be identified ...07:16
holycowlol :)07:16
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QQQOmniDHow would I be able to disable certain users from using certain programs?07:16
shinta42abst:my hda1 is windows hda2 is extended partion, under which hda7 is root...is this wrong?should i make it so its not extended07:16
HmmmmI use it as a bridge my our hardware PBX, and connect PBXs from 5 countries so as to be able to route calls to and from them07:16
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Abstshinta42: Is hd7 ext3/2?07:17
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holycowHmmmm, how are you covering the charges for that?07:17
Hmmmma SIP phone will only let you make calls or receiove them. all the magic is done on asterisk07:17
kohr_i am trying to get azuerus  to be allowed to write to a win32 partition07:17
shinta42abst:hda7 is reiserfs07:17
cliffddoes anyone have an opinion on this additional oem isntall I did. was it the wrong thing to do? should I reinstall from the regular disk?07:17
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AbstHmm07:17
AbstGrub aint gunna boot to that07:17
Hmmmmholycow: charges for what? all the calls are free. hardware (beside my PC) was hardly $10007:17
shinta42abst:why07:18
Abstit didn't07:18
InvisiblePinkUniHmmmm: does asterisk have documentation for "how to bridge"  and stuff07:18
holycowHmmmm, access to the other pbxs is free too? i thought  you had to pay some sort of fee?07:18
AbstIt just refused to07:18
Hmmmmholycow: I let people use it for free. they an use a softphone, or use a real SIP phone if they want to buy one07:18
Skuz`Hmmmm you used trixbox before?07:18
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AbstDo you have a disk and something to burn an ISO on?07:18
Abst!ubotu07:19
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Hmmmmholycow: I set up and manage all these PBXs07:19
HmmmmInvisiblePinkUni: theres more than enough documentation for asterisk07:19
holycowHmmmm, not my area :) i'm just curious how you entered the system like that ... you make it sound like you can just set one up and call for free all you want07:19
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holycownote: i know nothin about telephony :)07:19
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kohr_squeaks, azerous  still cant write to the win32 partiton07:19
HmmmmInvisiblePinkUni: start here --> http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php07:20
InvisiblePinkUniHmmmm: can i setup a Interactive Voice Response System... to route calls to either my landline or mobile or etc...?07:20
InvisiblePinkUniHmmmm: ta07:20
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shinta42abst: i believe there is a command to change the live system from livecd to mounted partition07:20
shinta42abst:its listed in gentoo handbook ...i dont know if i can find it07:20
bhrobinsonInvisiblePinkUni, I would suggest getting "the book"07:20
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squeakskohr_, which user are u running azureus as?07:20
HmmmmInvisiblePinkUni: yes you can07:20
AbstThis isnt gentoo07:20
AbstIt may not be there07:20
InvisiblePinkUnibhrobinson: which one?07:20
bhrobinsonInvisiblePinkUni, join the channel #asterisk and ask them for the link07:20
ceruleantigerdoes anyone here have experience installing ubuntu on a macbook? The alt-install and liveCD will not even boot citing kernel panic. I picked up a liveCD which will boot here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=160126&package_id=181927&release_id=397932, but unfortunately, this is text only, and does not even have an installer as far as I can tell07:20
bhrobinsonit is from O'Reilly07:21
InvisiblePinkUnibhrobinson: okily dokily07:21
GigaClonkohr_, there is an option in azureus that allows it to write to FAT3207:21
QQQOmniDHow would I be able to disable certain users from using certain programs? I have a guest account I'd rather not be using a lot of programs as it might be a security risk07:21
kohr_squeaks, well, i have the root password07:21
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Abstchmod07:21
ceruleantigerso does anyone have a guide on installing ubuntu from the command line? I'm guessing this is uncommon/non-existent07:21
AbstI think07:21
JoseStefanceruleantiger, afaik, macbook is not a power PC07:21
Abst!installer07:21
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about installer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:21
kohr_gigaclon, any idea where it is, or shold i just look07:21
Abst!install07:21
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues07:21
squeakskohr_, after mounting, check to see if whatever user is running azureus can write to the fat32 partition07:21
GigaClonkohr_, just look07:21
bhrobinsonkohr_,  what kind of problem are you having on azureus?07:21
AbstSee the first link, ceruleantiger07:21
ceruleantigermacbook is not powerpc, but it has EFI in place of BIOS, and the liveCDs are failing because they are making BIOS calls07:22
squeakskohr_, say, write a new file or something07:22
holycowceruleantiger, what do you mean command line? that question is kinda ... well not clear?07:22
kohr_bhrobinson, it says failed to create parrent directory07:22
shinta42abst:okay i will try to figure it out~07:22
shinta42abst:thanks for ur time07:22
InvisiblePinkUnicool07:22
JoseStefanQQQOmni, using groups and chown/chmod is one way07:22
Abstnp07:22
shinta42abst: i am having problem with enable dma on my harddrive07:22
JoseStefanQQQOmniD ^^^07:22
InvisiblePinkUniHmmmm: bhrobinson: thaks....07:22
shinta42abst:hdparm gives  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted07:22
ceruleantigerholycow: as in, it boots to a command prompt, and that's it. I think they expect me to be able to bring up a whole ubuntu system on just commands in a terminal...07:23
HmmmmInvisiblePinkUni: pleasure.07:23
Abstshinta42: I don't know about DMA sorry...07:23
Abst!dma07:23
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA07:23
holycowceruleantiger, install server07:23
kohr_squeaks, ah ha, i am not allowed to write on it unless i use my root password07:23
holycowceruleantiger, there is no diff between server and desktop, desktop just installs the desktop environment and extra apps07:23
JoseStefanceruleantiger, afaik, macbook is not a power PC07:23
bhrobinsonkohr_,  go download the install from their site and try it. Since it is a Java app, you will not actually have to install it. I have had lots of issues with the one in ubuntu, but the one from them works no prob07:23
ceruleantigerholycow, server does not work either. The CD will not even BOOT07:23
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holycowceruleantiger, of course it works, your system is borked07:23
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ceruleantigerJoseStefan: Yeah, it's not powerPC, it's intel. Does that matter?07:23
OmiKrOnhi *07:23
AbstHey07:24
JoseStefanceruleantiger, not sure there07:24
holycowceruleantiger, you must have some peculiarity with your box, i've seen on the odd ocasion similar things happenign with debian, but very very very rare07:24
QQQOmniDJoseStefan How would I use chmod for programs though?07:24
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OmiKrOnwhat is so innovative that ubuntu brings in the playfield among other linux distros?07:24
holycowoh this is a macbook?07:24
AbstQQQOmniD: chmod perms program07:24
ceruleantigerholycow: I'm telling you it's because macbooks have EFI, and it fails for that reason...07:24
holycowah, donno for that i thought you had a pc, sorry.07:24
ceruleantigerholycow: yeah, this is macbook07:24
holycowceruleantiger, that would make sense *nod*07:24
kohr_bhrobinson, i already installed a diffrent .jar file to fix a diffrent problem, i have the most current version i belive07:24
QQQOmniDhmmm07:25
OmiKrOnnoone answering my question? :P07:25
bhrobinsonkohr_,  and it will only run as root?07:25
holycowi think i need to be more open to other hardware configs :) ubuntu is popular enough that we are going to get maccies trying to install it :)07:25
ceruleantigerholycow: but it's intel based... it's just that it has EFI rather than a standard BIOS, so none of the linux installs are working07:25
AbstNot really because answering it would take more than the size of any of our harddrives07:25
NickGarveyOmiKrOn: its often very easy to use, I think a quick google searh would help07:25
NickGarveysearch*07:25
AbstThe answer is so great07:25
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OmiKrOnah.. very easy to use you say.. so prolly it has more "appliance" to noobz07:26
kohr_bhrobinson, no, i neec to change the partition so that i can write on it without root i think07:26
holycowceruleantiger, *nod* i think you nailed it.  you can do something else tho07:26
ceruleantigerso anyone know how to install ubuntu from terminal? All I need is a pointer to whatever ubuntu kernel, and a pointer to installing apt-get from scratch and I can handle the rest07:26
AbstOmiKrOn: Please not trolling us.07:26
Abststop*07:26
NickGarveyOmiKrOn: not "more" but I don't think07:26
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holycowceruleantiger, at least you can try this: install it on an hd on another box, then plug it into your machine.  say on another laptop hd07:26
twocathi, I'm trying to get RPMs to install in ubuntu, so I got alien to install them as .deb ... is it possible to make RPMs "open with" alien (something like typing into the "opens with" "use a custom command" box "gnome-terminal alien -k") or do I have to always select the file from the terminal?07:27
squeakskohr_, try umask=000007:27
OmiKrOnthat starts with the breadth of Debian <--- well it will need a transplant soon07:27
holycowdebian/ubuntu are VERY portable, you can litterally just plug the drive into any pc and it goes (as long as its on the same ide chain id)07:27
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holycowceruleantiger, that is about as close as you get to installing via command line and bypassing the bios and installer07:27
bhrobinsoncheck the perms to your/home/<user>/.azureus is where I would go. Like I said though, with the ubuntu version, I could not do anything. I d/l the complete from their site and had zero issues.07:28
holycowceruleantiger, does the livecd boot up at all?07:28
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bhrobinsonwith that, rebooting.07:28
OmiKrOnnice instructions also very nice putting something on a repo that doesn`t allows the users to login07:28
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JoseStefanceruleantiger, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/MacBook07:28
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OmiKrOnHold Control and Alt and press Delete. This will reboot your system in a functional state.  <-- intendended for production enviroment machine07:28
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JoseStefanceruleantiger, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/AppleMacBookPro07:28
OmiKrOnAt the first look this looks like a joke not like a OS07:28
AbstOmiKrOn: Leave.07:28
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AbstCould you code a better one? I don't think so.07:29
OmiKrOnAbst: it is usually .. Please leave07:29
jamin06I have a dell laptop and need help joining wireless networks.07:29
holycowOmiKrOn, your question is irrelevant07:29
OmiKrOnNO, but i surely USE a better one07:29
Abst"What would that be?07:29
ceruleantigerholycow: which one? the one I got from sourceforge will boot to command line, the rest will not even boot07:29
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OmiKrOnredhatbased/bsds07:29
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holycowOmiKrOn, if you cannot see what ubuntu does or why it exists, that says more about yoru inability than anyones wilingness to answer your question07:29
Abst"Okay07:29
AbstGood for you..07:29
kohr_squeaks, it still wont let me create a file07:29
AbstGo back to it07:29
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ceruleantigerJoseStefan: I was trying to follow this installation that you pointed to and it does not work. That's why I came here07:30
JoseStefanceruleantiger, there is alink at the bottom with tips07:30
jamin06with windows there was a application that searched for wireless networks. is there something comparable for ubuntu07:30
holycowceruleantiger, sourceforge?07:30
OmiKrOnnever had a debian based distro which was cool or innovative. Wannabes07:30
holycowwhat does ubuntu haveto do with sourceforge?07:30
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JoseStefanceruleantiger, this one? http://bin-false.org/?p=1707:30
holycowceruleantiger, i meant ubuntu installer live cd07:30
Abstubotu... wiresless07:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wiresless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:30
iCodI'm BORED. Ubuntu works too well, that is all I have to say...07:30
Abstubotu... wireless07:30
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:30
kohr_jamin06, i belive there is07:30
AbstThere you go jamin0607:31
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relachsiCod try to get WPA to work?07:31
ceruleantigerholycow: there is a modified ubuntu liveCD that boots to command line that will boot on macbooks because the standard ones from ubuntu's site will not boot07:31
kohr_jamin06, go to network config07:31
iCodrelachs, I haven't attempted07:31
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kohr_jamin06, and clicky on the wireless network config07:31
holycowceruleantiger, ah! :) well then07:31
jamin06in preferences or admin?07:31
squeakskohr_, my last guess is that the mount location is not writeable by your user, try chmod 777 .../mountpoint and remount07:31
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holycowceruleantiger, i don't use unnoficial cds so hard to comment07:32
kohr_jamin06, then clicky on the SSID07:32
relachsiCod go try if you own a wlan, last time i did i killed ubuntu :P07:32
kohr_jamin06, there shuld be a list07:32
JoseStefanceruleantiger, did you try this one? http://bin-false.org/?p=1707:32
ceruleantigerholycow: neither do I... I've installed ubuntu at least a dozen times, and nothing like this has ever come up... it's a nightmare..07:32
holycowceruleantiger, the best way to find out about how to use that cd is th eauthor of that installer.  i think its cool there is a cd that boots under rmacbook. sweet07:32
kohr_squeaks. i already did that07:32
jamin06like automatically?07:32
jamin06cause there isnt07:32
Abst!sa07:32
ubotuFor the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa07:32
holycowceruleantiger, well you are using a mac tho ... how is that surprising?07:32
squeakssorry, i'm out of ideas07:33
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ceruleantigerJoseStefan: Yeah, I tried it. What link are you referring to? it's taking me a while to sort through the comments...07:33
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iCodrelachs, I don't own one, maybe I should though07:33
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JoseStefanceruleantiger, this one: http://bin-false.org/?p=1707:33
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Genericpardon the spammage, but ubuntu users will love this: http://xkcd.com/c149.html07:33
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bhrobinsonsethk, that did not mount07:34
ceruleantigerJoseStefan: yeah, that link does not work... why do you keep pasting the same one?07:34
relachsGuys im off, if i log on next time im in east germany =D *rrrrrhh*07:34
kohr_jamin06,did that work?07:34
Absthaha07:34
jamin06no07:34
Abstthats brilliant07:34
JoseStefanceruleantiger, you asked "what link"07:34
Abstput it on07:34
Abst#linux07:34
dfgas!upgrade07:34
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.07:34
jamin06im not really sure exactly what im trying07:34
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kohr_jamin06,its in the wireless network config07:34
jamin06what is, kohr?07:35
kohr_the scanner thing07:35
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kohr_when you click ont he ssid07:36
sethkbhrobinson, what happens if you do   mount /path   (/path is the local mount point of the nfs mount)    use sudo, of course07:36
kohr_it displays a list of all ssids available07:36
ceruleantigerJoseStefan:  oh, well my misunderstanding.07:36
kohr_i think07:36
kohr_try that07:36
sethkbhrobinson, by giving it just the path, you force it to use the /etc/fstab settings07:36
JoseStefanceruleantiger, or mine07:36
bhrobinsonsethk, it works that way07:37
AbstQuiet07:37
sethkbhrobinson,  we can add that statement to one of the init scripts and hack around the problem that way.07:37
kohr_ok, now i am trying to get permission to write to a win32 partiton07:37
sethkbhrobinson, I'm not sure why it isn't mounting, though07:37
sethkbhrobinson, let me check one thing07:38
Abst!ntfs07:38
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:38
ceruleantigerholycow JoseStefan: Actually, my bad, I just tried again, and it booted to the initial start screen (the one where it gives you options on what install to do), but once I actually select one, it fails (for liveCD). I'm trying the options with the alt-install disk right now07:38
hoxzer:/07:39
kohr_jamin06, any luck?07:39
holycowceruleantiger, *nod* try the text installer on that one07:39
AbstHey hoxzer07:39
kohr_ok, now i am trying to get permission to write to a win32 partiton07:39
sethkbhrobinson, do man nfs  make sure you are looking at the nfs man page in section 5    it shows some examples of nfs entries in /etc/fstab07:39
kohr_one problem at a time07:39
ceruleantigerholycow: yeah, I went mac... OSX bothered me though, although I have to admit it was cool for 3 weeks... I'm missing my linux though, thus I'm desperately trying to get it on this macbook :P07:39
bhrobinsonok cool... I will look07:39
holycowceruleantiger, really?07:39
holycowlol!07:39
holycowwhoa cool!07:39
kohr_ceruleantiger, once you go mac, you never go back07:40
sethk bhrobinson look at the bg option, that looks promising07:40
holycowwelcome back, well personally i think its cool whatever people choose to use07:40
ceruleantigerholycow: pricewise and designwise, it's still a very good deal, even if I don't use their software :P07:40
holycowceruleantiger, i'm curious what you decided about osx that was enough for you?07:40
ceruleantigerkohr_: well, apparently I do go back :) ubuntu rocks07:40
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JoseStefanholycow, even if they use Windows ME ?07:40
mkquist_lol07:41
sethkbhrobinson, I'm nodding out here, but I'll talk to you tomorrow if I'm gone tonight07:41
holycowJoseStefan, as long as they don't call me for help :)07:41
ceruleantigermemory management stunk, the gui was hard to navigate through with a keyboard (i.e. no keyboard shortcuts for a lot of things, no custom keybindings, and lots of little things that you don't really notice until they're gone)07:41
ceruleantigernot to mention, it ran hot as hell, and OSX is not great about turning on fans/underclocking the CPU...07:41
bhrobinsonsethk, thanks again07:41
sethkbhrobinson, np,07:41
kohr_ok, now i am trying to get permission to write to a win32 partiton. any help?07:41
Abst!repeat07:42
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience07:42
holycowceruleantiger, yeah, when i used it a couple of times to help a new user learn it i just hated th eui07:42
JoseStefankohr_, did you search the wiki?07:42
ceruleantigerholycow: I can't even put it on my lap after 40 minutes tops... and that's just while browsing the web...07:42
kohr_ok07:42
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holycowceruleantiger, just another 'de' ... i like my gnome07:42
kohr_i will wiki it07:42
holycowceruleantiger, they overheat?07:42
Abst!ntfs07:42
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:42
AbstGo there07:42
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JoseStefanceruleantiger, turn off the heater feature, that's only for cold weather07:42
ceruleantigerholycow: I like my kde :) Either way, OSX kicks window's butt, but it's just not for me I guess07:42
ceruleantigerheh07:43
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kohr_!patience07:43
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:43
hoxzer!fuser07:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fuser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:43
birdfishHow do I go about editing menus and figuring out paths to various applications and commands?07:43
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holycowceruleantiger, neat.  thanks for the heads up.  i knkow people like their osx, but like you i think our de's are more advanced in certain areas07:43
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holycowand if the hardware manufacturers played nice we would have an amazingly easy plug and play system for everything07:43
muhammadheey is there any PDFcreator i can download ?07:43
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birdfishI'd like to put the places and system menus into the main applications menu and then create a lock screen and log out menu item07:43
ceruleantigerholycow: they have SERIOUS overheating problems. I've never touched a laptop like that before. They think that people prefer a silent laptop to a cool one, so they hardly ever turn on fans... it gets to be like 80 C, which is nuts07:43
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CaptainMorgandoes ubuntu support mounting partitions if the processor is dual core or 64-bit?07:44
holycowceruleantiger, wow07:44
noctiwhat gui ftp client can you guys recommend? thanks07:44
ladydooryou're welcome07:44
holycowCaptainMorgan, cpu makes no diff, if it installs it works07:44
sethkCaptainMorgan, you think that if you have two cpus, you can't mount?07:44
AbstLadydoor is back07:44
ladydoorand now she's gone again07:44
ceruleantigerholycow: even with text install mode, I still get kernel panic, so it's definitely something with BIOS calls... unfortunately nobody seems to document these things... :(07:44
orlockholycow: tell me about it - nvidia have fucked up their PCI Class on nForce 430 boards it seems07:44
sethkCaptainMorgan, that can't be what you meant07:45
JoseStefanbirdfish: Applications, Accesories, Alacarte07:45
orlockholycow: they have assignd their erthernet controller a class of Bridge instead of Network Device.07:45
holycoworlock, really? i didn't hear about that ... what is the scoop on that?07:45
ceruleantigerholycow: if I'd known that linux was this hard to install, I may well have bought another laptop instead... :(07:45
birdfishJoseStefan, I can't eliminate the Places and System menu through that07:45
holycoworlock, oh really?07:45
holycowwow07:45
birdfishJoseStefan, Also, I want to be able to view the paths to the menu items before I remove them07:45
orlockholycow: yeah, i am trying to figure out if its worth telling them07:45
hucknocti: try gftp07:45
CaptainMorganI run ubuntu now on my laptop and was desiring to run Fedora on my desktop, but since installation, I can't mount Win partitions for some reason, my /etc/fstab is by default empty, and now Im thinking of installation Ubuntu07:45
orlockholycow: it means any hardware autodetect scripts that trust the PCI classes they get wont think its an ethernet device07:46
CaptainMorganholycow, someone in #windows said it does at least for Win..07:46
holycowceruleantiger, ah i really wish i could help dude, i just don't use macs.  :-/ appologies for the unhelpfull answers07:46
noctithanks huck07:46
hucksure thing07:46
sethkCaptainMorgan, not for win, not for linux, not for anything07:46
muhammadis there any PDFcreator i can download ?07:46
holycoworlock, so once again, we get fawkin proprietary vendor hardware hell07:46
orlockmuhammad: ghostscript07:46
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muhammad<orlock> thx alot07:47
holycoworlock, this is exactly why windows is hell.  everyone does whatever the hell they want - and they think os peeps can't make up their minds ...07:47
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thybomuhammad: open office does it i believe:)07:47
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ceruleantigerholycow: this isn't just for macs, although macs seem to be the first to implement this new EFI standard. In the future, you'll be seeing more and more of this as OEMs move from BIOS to EFI... It's just unfortunate that I have to be on the front lines :P07:47
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orlockholycow: it _works_, the open source driver works fine if its installed, its just things like kudzu for redhat that look at the pci hardware list.. it doesnt appear as a network device to them. been banging my head against a wall on this for a week or so07:47
muhammadthybo> opss thx alottt :-)07:47
ceruleantigerholycow: Anyways, thanks for the time. Even though you couldn't really answer anything, I still appreciate the effort :) holycow++07:47
STEEKwhere do i get the libglib-1.2.so.0 file for ubuntu?07:47
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chris86wmare there any freecell/salitaire/hearts games that are similar to the ones that come default on windows?07:48
holycowCaptainMorgan, what seth said07:48
nigelHexidigital: I got disconnected !!!07:48
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chris86wmlooking for some for an older lady and they must be VERY similar07:48
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holycowceruleantiger, *hmm* interesting07:48
holycoworlock, *nod* i getcha07:49
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radioaktivstormhello, how do i go root to edit read only system files?07:49
wd3 holycow what r ur thoughts on? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24539707:49
apokryphosradioaktivstorm: /msg ubotu root07:49
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JoseStefanbirdfish: go to /usr/share/applications/   view the .desktop files07:49
wd3holycow, oh yeah what's up long time.07:49
Tired_Hello. What tools does Ubuntu have available for software RAID?07:49
birdfishJoseStefan: okay07:49
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huckTired_: dmraid i beileve is one, should be on the live disk07:50
sahara_arvindhi there i have a serious query07:50
ezuHi all, how do I uninstall java from ubuntu?07:50
holycowwd3, i wouldn't bother even trying installing anything on that.  not enough ram for anything at all any more.  you might be able to get away with a very very light desktop environment at best and only run two apps at the same time07:51
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Tired_where can I find a list of tools ubuntu has, by category?07:51
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holycownever mind the cpu being slow, you will simply be paging all day to hd with that little ram07:51
radioaktivstormthanks apokryphos! :D07:51
sahara_arvindI wish to use ubuntu as an server with xampp running on it for hosting the intranet portal for my college.... is that justified?07:51
holycowalso th elinux kernel has a 'hard' time when you run out of ram ... i forget the technical term but it really strugles ... at least with the dapper kernel, that may be fixed at some point in th efuture07:52
huckezu: did you try Synaptic?07:52
holycowsahara_arvind, why not? linux makes a fantastic server.  its free and very powerfull07:52
wd3holycow, thanks i kinda thought so.... :(  well i guess i'll keep looking on ebay... for a cheap laptop07:52
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mkquist_!software raid07:52
Tired_my system is sorta peculiar...it seems to like the way certain tools do things...must be a dell thing07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about software raid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
holycowsahara_arvind,  a bigger problem you might run into is licencing of the stuff your hosting :)07:52
sahara_arvindholycow ty for replying07:52
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aandersehello, i am having a very strange problem im hoping i can have some help with ...07:52
holycowsahara_arvind, no probs, great nick btw07:52
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aandersemy desktop background has dissapeared07:52
ezuHunk, Actually my real problem is that I installed flashplayer but I have no audio ???07:53
sahara_arvindholycow i have tried ubuntu on desktop and i liked it .......07:53
aandersemy window manager is still in tact, so are my panels07:53
sahara_arvindty holycow07:53
holycowor rather ... i read your nick as sahara_wind ... which would technically be a great misread nick :)07:53
holycowlol07:53
aandersebut my desktop background is just gone, like all the icons on the desktop, and i can't right click on it07:53
orlockholycow: heh, just emailed nvidia bout it, bet i wont get a esponse...07:53
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huckezu: are you listening to something else at the same time?07:53
holycowsahara_arvind, it really depends on your skills but you can install ubuntu server edition, its the same just leaves out the desktop and other desktop related apps07:53
sahara_arvindholycow do u mind replying to few more queries07:53
gary4garcan anyone help me in bruning cur/bin files in k3b07:53
holycoworlock, i guess we are lucky they spend any money on us as it is07:53
holycowsahara_arvind, just ask if i can't answer others might07:54
whazillhey07:54
m_technicdoes anyone knows how to setup a dialup-connection ?07:54
whazillhow do i resize my ext3 in ubuntu ?07:54
ezuhunk: no. am trying to hear audio and there is none07:54
nigelHexidigital: You here ?07:54
CVpumas61Any1 use a MN-730 wirless pci card?07:54
whazillnot me07:54
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holycowm_technic, its the same as in windows you need to install the dialer software and yhou need a supported modem ... of which there are very very few these days07:55
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aandersecan anyone help me with my desktop dissapearing problem?07:55
whazillprisma card for me07:55
gary4gar<whazill>: u have to use gparted but do backup ur data!07:55
whazillhow i backup ?07:55
huckezu: type this in a terminal and see if you have more than one sound card: aplay -l07:55
holycowif its a laptops chances are you will have problems, if its a desktop you can maybe get a hardware 3com if you are lucky07:55
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Warboaanderse: Try running "nautilus &"07:55
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whazillisn't the data preserved ?07:55
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m_technicholycow, does it support internal modem ?07:55
sahara_arvindholycow i was thinking of two options 1. to use ubuntu desktop version+xampp 2. ubuntu server edition+any control panel. I also have to assign a public IP (which i have spare) and a domain name to this proposed server ....... i wish to know more about its feasibility07:55
aanderse:o07:55
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whazillor backup for possible infrigment ?07:56
aanderseoh my gosh i think i might die of shock07:56
whazillheh07:56
holycowm_technic, internal laptops modesm are usually WINMODEMS07:56
holycowthey aren't real modems but fake software based modems07:56
holycowusually those DON'T work on linux07:56
aandersenot only did someone respond to me, but they fixed my problem too! i love open source software!07:56
whazillaanderse why shocked ?07:56
aandersethanks! :D07:56
hoxzerAargh07:56
m_technicoh!... thats why ubuntu donnt see my internal modem.07:56
gary4gar<whazill>: u have automatix installed??07:56
philipwho uses modems anymore? I haven't used mine for the last 5 years at least07:56
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holycowyou can try using the windows driver using a conversion app but ...07:57
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sahara_arvindholycow i would be needing apache+php+mysql (all latest versions) and my heart says that if i use any control panel onto ubuntu server then it may be easy to configure it for mails, domain name assigning etc......07:57
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holycowm_technic, what you MUST do is lookup the exact model of your laptop, find the exact modem and check if its supported.  if it is supported you need to find the installation and config information for your device07:57
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Warbolinmodems.org07:57
Warbo^ They helped me a few years ago07:57
holycowoh forgot, yeah that might give you enough info07:57
sahara_arvindholycow i found configuring apache and mysql separately a complex task07:57
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holycowsahara_arvind, on linux generally EVERYTHING seems complex until you learn it07:58
ezuhunk: I have two cards, embedded and pci07:58
whazillwhat is automatix again ?07:58
whazilli'm updating to dapper atm07:58
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holycowsahara_arvind, AFTER THAT its beyond stupid easy07:58
Warbo!automatix07:58
whazillcan't check07:58
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.07:58
sahara_arvindagreed holycow07:58
huckezu: do you get sound from anything else?07:58
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leopardusI need to configure my ubuntu as a terminal server for X applications?07:58
holycowsahara_arvind, there is no real way to overcome the need to understand what you are using and what you are running and how to set it up ... we don't really have wizards per se07:58
ezuif am not using the browser it works fine.07:58
JoseStefan!-fhs07:59
ubotufhs is <alias> files - added by apokryphos on 2006-08-30 07:54:4007:59
whazilldo i need automatix installed ?07:59
holycowsahara_arvind, perhaps you can google up and see if anyone has setup the same thing and if they offer how tos07:59
whazillgary4gar ?07:59
leopardusI need to configure my ubuntu as a terminal server for X applications?07:59
holycowsahara_arvind, as an example, i needed to setup a spam blocking server and found instructions07:59
yoshiznit123hey everyone, I've found three different drivers to access my ext3 partitions from windows (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html, http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm), anybody have experience with those and know which is best?07:59
huckezu: then that's beyond me... someone else might be able to help. Or you can try this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive+sound07:59
gary4gar<whazill> just go to applications/system/ and check if it is there??07:59
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sahara_arvindholycow thanks.....07:59
leopardusI need to configure my ubuntu as a terminal server for X applications?08:00
pontifexyoshiznit123: i have used the ext2ifs one, and it "just worked"08:00
Warboterminal server?08:00
sahara_arvindholycow can i ask about hardware (old spare server which i have) , whether the config is fine for ubuntu?08:00
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yoshiznit123pontifex, is that the second or third? (they're both called ext2ifs)08:00
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holycowsahara_arvind, most old  hardware will just work.  all you can do is really just try it.  if something doesn't work you will need to look it up.  no hard and fast rules really08:00
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ezuThanks a bunch hunk08:01
hucksure, wish I could've been more helpful08:01
holycowsahara_arvind, its very rare for old hardware not to work unles it has some weird chipset or config08:01
gary4gar<whazill>ok don't install automatix, tell me u have dapper or beezy08:01
kohr_how do i change the write permissions to a folder08:01
Bot_BuilderI pretty much have screwed over my ubuntu by attempting to upgrade cairo08:01
yoshiznit123tired_, it's for sharing a partition between windows and linux08:01
Warbokohr_: chmod (use -R to go recursive through it)08:01
sahara_arvindholycow i have a P3 500, dual processor, 1 GB ram and 72 GB HDD, will it be able to server to atleast 20 pcs at any given time in the LAN?08:01
Bot_BuilderI attempted an install from a debian deb after removing the old version08:01
pontifexyoshiznit123: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html that one08:01
Bot_Builderthen proceeded to install a new version of libc which it depends on08:02
kohr_warbo, i tried that, it doesn;t change them08:02
holycowsahara_arvind, probably very easily08:02
Tired_oh, this is one I was curious about...will Ubuntu choke on bootup when it loads the kernel module for a 4-port NIC, of which only one port is is use?08:02
sahara_arvindok08:02
WarboBot_Builder: Ha, I tried to install a new libc once. I reinstalled :)08:02
Bot_Builderand now pretty much synaptic wants to delete everything on teh system to remove the new version of libc...08:02
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yoshiznit123pontifex, ok thanks, i was kinda leaning towards that one :-)08:02
kohr_warbo sudo chmod /data o=rwx08:02
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Bot_Builderyeah, pretty retarded08:02
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holycowlater08:02
kohr_warbo sudo chmod /data o=rwx -R08:02
gary4gar<whazill>???08:02
huckezu: just a thought, have you tried disabling one sound card? maybe the onboard one (if you have one) through the BIOS?08:03
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Warbokohr_: I am not sure of chmod's exact syntax (I usually use numbers)08:03
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Bot_BuilderI mean, I thought linux package stuff was good.  This is plain orrible08:03
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kohr_warbo, its right, i tried it with numbers too08:03
WarboBot_Builder: OK, 1) DO NOT remove libc6 to install the new version after08:03
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kohr_warbo i am looking at a page that says the syntax, its correct08:04
WarboBot_Builder: 2) You can use options like "sudo dpkg --force-depends -r packagename" to remove a package (or -i to install)08:04
holycowlol08:04
holycownever ever remove libc608:04
kohr_warbo could the fact that a partition is mounted there have anything to do with it?08:04
holycowalmost everything depends on that08:04
Bot_Builderyeah i know warbo - I did that to remove the old cairo08:04
Warbokohr_: Try putting sudo ahead of it08:04
holycowyou may as wall just install the entire new update if you dare08:04
kohr_i have been08:05
kohr_warbo, i have been08:05
WarboBot_Builder: Well don't remove then install, just try to install over the old one08:05
Bot_Buildergodamnit, now both my windows and linux is bricked08:05
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Bot_Builderhow would i do that?08:05
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holycowBot_Builder, answer yes when it says do you want to install the new lib608:05
Bot_Builderuh, where's that?  I'm already on dapper drake. fresh instal08:06
Tired_do Ubuntu kernel versions still carry open Debian kernel bugs?08:06
holycow*scroll* *scroll*08:06
WarboBot_Builder: "sudo dpkg --force-depends --force-downgrade -i proper-cairo-package.deb"08:06
Tired_there's an old wontfix bug that prevents a Debian kernel from booting on this model of Dell...I"m wondering if Ubuntu would have inherited that08:07
holycowBot_Builder, you tried to remove libc6? for that yes it will try to remove everything08:07
Tired_i'd hate to get my system all partitioned and cleaned, then unbootable08:07
kohr_warbo, i am going to try rebooting08:08
Bot_Builderholycow - no, i installed a new one08:08
Bot_Builderbut it depends on a dependancy I can't install08:08
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holycowBot_Builder, yeah it will try to remove everything or upgrade it as necessary08:08
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Bot_Builderit needs 'tzdata'08:08
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Bot_Builderand downgrade appears to want to remove everything that depends on it08:09
lostsynchey is there a way to list the most recent packages you installed from apt?  like say the last 20 or so?08:09
Bot_Builderbloody mess08:09
holycowBot_Builder, well the upgrade the libc6 upgraded everything as well right?08:09
WarboBot_Builder: Did you upgrade or dist-upgrade after installing it?08:09
holycowthe new stuff cannot run on the old libc6 thus it will try to remove it08:09
Bot_Builderuh... no... I got a libc6 deb08:09
holycowyou may need to allow it to remove everything then reinstall the desktop environment08:10
holycowbut it would be easier to backup /home and reinsall08:10
holycowreinstall08:10
WarboI was about to say backup "sudo dpkg -l", but in this case it might be a mistake :)08:10
holycowBot_Builder, yeah you can't JUST install libc6 ... everything else needs to be pulled along with it08:10
ezuhunk: yes. it didn't help at all. thanks,08:10
holycowwhat you have now is a newer libc6 and NOTHING that can use it08:11
Bot_Builderholycow - well, I'm mostly a linux noob08:11
Bot_Builderyeah.  broken packages08:11
holycowBot_Builder, thats okay, the cool thing is you don't haveto phone anyone to 'reactivate' it during reinstall :)08:11
ezuHunk, am trying the forum you sent.08:11
holycowBot_Builder, all in learning08:11
holycowBot_Builder, if your anoob and don't want to futs, backup your /home and reinstall08:11
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WarboBot_Builder: Yet you still try to install a different version of the C library :)08:11
holycowits simple and painless08:11
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Bot_Builderwell, maybe not that much of a noob08:11
holycowyou tried doing something without understanding the consequences, no biggie08:11
Bot_BuilderI think i stuck my home on a seperate partition08:12
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holycoweven  bettah :)08:12
WarboSeems you are ignarant of your ignorance. I, however, know that I am an idiot :)08:12
Bot_Builderwarbo - cairo said it needed it :P08:12
Bot_Builderlol08:12
holycowWarbo, rofl08:12
holycowi'm wallowing in mine dude08:12
holycowheh08:12
Bot_Builderwhy can't i just mystically magically downgrade?08:13
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Bot_Builderis it really that hard?08:13
holycowBot_Builder, it seems simple on the surface but the process is complicated enough that its simpler to just reinstall08:13
WarboBot_Builder: I only know options for dpkg, which means doing it on a per-package basis08:13
holycowso no one has bothered to try writing such a thing08:14
holycowno sense in writing such a tool when reinstall is just as fast08:14
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lostsyncBot_Builder, i screwed up the other day and updated some dbus things for BMPx which made all my mono apps die08:14
Bot_Builderwarbo - I did this on a per-package basis so i can probably get out of it on a per-package basis08:14
holycowi don't even install any more it takes 3 minutes to image an hd with a fresh install08:14
holycowBot_Builder, not wihtout a lot of work, its far faster to reinstall08:14
kohr_OK EVERYBODY, it works not, thank you very much for being so helpful08:15
lostsynci just searched for the package+version +.deb on google, it brought me to a page on packages.ubuntu.com where i could dl the packages in question and install them via dkpg -i package-name-and-version.deb08:15
tehsuWhats a normal temp for a centrino durring ubuntu while compiling a new kernel?08:15
kohr_*works now08:15
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e-typemornign all08:15
lostsyncdowngraded just fine and now everything works, except BMPx, which i didnt really even like08:15
WarboBot_Builder: Just backup stuff in /etc which you have changed, maybe a list of your installed packages (minus the libc6, and that wouldn't reinstall anyway if you manually got a .deb) then backup /home. Also backup anything in /var/lib which may be useful (I have mldonkey-server and boinc-manager in there which I would like to transfer)08:15
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holycowlostsync, why?08:15
holycowlostsync, why don't you just enable all of your repositories and install using synaptic08:15
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holycowlostsync, thats just a web based list of packages available to you already08:15
lostsyncbecause i did it my way08:15
holycowthen stop doing the stupid way08:16
holycowand do it the right way08:16
lostsyncyeah but when you update your repos08:16
lostsyncand a repo has a newer version than another repo08:16
holycowno it doesn't08:16
holycowif ti does08:16
lostsyncthe older (official) version is no longer avail08:16
holycowits only temporary out of synch08:16
holycowlostsync, thats stupid08:16
holycowand not true08:16
lostsyncdude fuck off08:16
holycowofficial repos are all offical08:16
Flannel!language08:16
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:16
Warbolostsync: If you want the old one again then disable the new repo and update apt08:16
lostsyncyeah i tried that but it wasn't playing nice08:17
holycowlol08:17
WarboI wonder why.....08:17
lostsyncpoint is i fixed it by downloading .debs and all's well now08:17
WarboThat is what backports are for08:17
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sethkWarbo, yes, exactly08:17
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holycowlike we are telling you, do it right08:17
gary4garcan anyone help with burning /cue/bin image files in K3b?????08:18
lostsyncright == working == my computer08:18
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Warbo!info bchunk08:18
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB08:18
Warbogary4gar: Use bchunk to convert it to iso first, that is easier08:18
gary4garok08:18
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holycowWarbo, thanks for that, didn't know about that app08:18
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gary4garapt-get08:19
WarboI don't think I've ever seen a bin/cue combination, but it crops up often08:19
holycowWarbo, mostly warez08:19
holycow>_>08:19
lostsync...bin cue is extremely common08:19
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WarboThe only CDs I download are distros and stuff08:19
cynicalI love ubuntu08:20
gary4garya i tried using k3b but it said *.bin not found!08:20
gary4garnow will try with bchunk08:20
WarboI wouldn't get software illegally08:21
gary4garhey where it is installed??08:21
Warbogary4gar: Run "man bchunk"08:21
gary4garok08:21
WarboData can't phone home, software can08:21
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Warbo(Not that I get Data illegally of course, just pointing it out)08:21
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Bot_Builderthen again the difference between data and software is blurring08:21
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Bot_Builderstupid von neumann :P08:22
Dummeyis the forum down for anybody else?08:22
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mrfoobarit won't submit posts for me, but I can still view it08:23
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denver1can anyone tell me howto make a bootable cd using Smart boot Manager?08:23
WarboI started a thread yesterday, and it isn't there08:23
holycowthey are having problems08:23
gary4gar<Warbo> i obly got cue/bin files whats base file in it??08:23
holycowsomething about a server and smoke coming out of it08:24
mrfoobarThey seem to have turned search for unregistered users back on, that might be the prob08:24
Warbogary4gar: That is the iso you want to make08:24
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gary4gar<Warbo> i can enter any name??08:24
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WarboI think "bchunk mydisk.bin mydisk.cue mydisk"08:24
mkquist_dummey-forums not down for me... im assuming ubuntu forums08:24
deepI need some help with grub-instal. :O08:24
Warbo(for example)08:24
Dummeyhmm forums came back up08:25
Dummeyit was lagged out for a min there08:25
gary4garok will try and tell <Warbo>08:25
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deepI dunno how to do it. I have windows installed on hda and ubuntu at hdb..08:25
deepWinduws nuked grub. :/08:25
Warbo!grub08:25
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:25
deepThax08:25
deepthanx*08:26
mrfoobarwould anyone know why the ubuntu terminal wouldn't recogize backquoting (e.g  cd /lib/modules/'uname -r'/kernel/drivers)?08:26
Warbomrfoobar: You mean `uname -r`08:26
Warbo(top left for me, ionstead of mid right)08:26
JoseStefanmrfoobar, use `  not '08:26
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Warbo*instead08:26
mrfoobarahh08:26
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sethkmrfoobar, you should always use  $(...)  rather than back ticks in any event08:27
sethkback ticks are not re-entrent, and they are a c shell anachronism that should never be used08:27
e-typesethk: explain?08:27
Warbosethk: What's the advantage? (other than being able to nest them)08:27
e-typejust for posix stuff?08:27
WarboOK, you answered me08:27
sethk:)08:27
mrfoobarthanks08:27
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WarboI may change some help pages.....08:28
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brendonjthi all08:28
Warbohello08:28
blkhi everybody, is there a chan for edgy developers/testers?08:29
WarboI think I might get some sleep whilst these packages install08:29
brendonjtme having a right so so of a night,  my second hdd  died  so  only have a 10gb drive now08:29
holycowblk, #ubuntu-devel08:29
sethkbrendonjt, hope you didn't lose anything important08:29
blkholycow: thanks08:29
Warboblk: #ubuntu+1 for Edgy users, I would guess #ubuntu-devel for developers08:29
holycowbrendonjt, *nod* it does tend to happen that way08:29
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brendonjtholycow: sethk:  family pics, holiday pics all my mp3's08:30
holycow:/08:30
holycowouch08:30
Dummeypst, i'm reading on the forums that i need to install daper, but how do i do that without internet?08:30
holycowbrendonjt, btw08:30
holycowjust because it failed doesn't me the data is gone08:30
sethkbrendonjt, put the drive in the fridge for a couple of hours.  frequently you can squeeze enough life out of it to back it up that way08:30
holycowyou can recover from most hd failures, there are service beraus that take hds apart and read the data08:30
brendonjtholycow: umm the bios dosn't reconise it at all08:30
holycowbrendonjt, thats fine08:31
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sethkholycow, that's true, but the fridge trick is a lot cheaper :)08:31
holycowservice beauraus take the platters out and put them in their own setups08:31
JoseStefanholycow, as long as you take it to them right away08:31
holycowsethk, indeed brendonjt try the fridge thing first :)08:31
brendonjtholycow: that actually works how does that work???08:32
JoseStefansethk, fridge trick is double sided sword08:32
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Dummeyerr guys, is ubuntu suppose to freeze coming out of screensaver mode?08:32
brendonjtjosestefan: wot you mean?08:32
e-typeDummey: is that a question?08:33
Dummeye-type: yes it is08:33
AndrukTatumhow do i get the ubuntu live CD to mount all partitions automatically, like knoppix?08:33
e-typeDummey: I think you know the answer ;)08:33
JoseStefanbrendonjt, putting your hard drive in the freezer, while it might make it work enough to get data out, it will kill it faster08:33
Dummeye-type: no i mean, is it suppose to pop up a enter user name prompt or something08:33
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e-typeAndrukTatum: you don't, a live cd is not supposed to mount any drives, it's supposed to run by itself08:33
AndrukTatumJoseStefan: that absolutely right08:33
sethkJoseStefan, that's true, I'm assuming it's dead, so there isn't much to lose08:34
AndrukTatume-type: then how do i get it to mount my drives?08:34
e-typeDummey: if you lock your screen, yes, a simple screensave, no08:34
sethkJoseStefan, if it is still working, then I just keep hammering on it until I get the data off08:34
JoseStefansethk, try does hard drive service centers08:34
JoseStefanthose*08:34
wheelswitchdoes xmms have some sort of media library view?08:34
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sethkJoseStefan, I didn't say freeze, I said fridge08:34
sethkJoseStefan, which is much different08:34
fyrestrtrwheelswitch: like a playlist?08:34
wheelswitchi know rhythm box does, but it dies, i think my music collection is too big08:34
e-typewheelswitch: plain xmms doesn't08:35
brendonjtjosestefan: oh ok,  but the bios  don't even pick it up now  i get the error  primary ide channel no 80 conductor cable installed08:35
sethkJoseStefan, it will not damage the drive to cool it.  To freeze it, I agree, isn't wise08:35
wheelswitchwell more a rhythm box type view fyrestrtr08:35
Madpilotwheelswitch, try Muine, I like it's UI for browsing collections08:35
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JoseStefansethk, ok, at how many degrees are we supposed to put it?08:35
sethkJoseStefan, most drives are rated from about 55 F08:35
tehsumake[5] : *** [drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zddevlist.h]  Error 108:35
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JoseStefanif you have a "controller error", cooling it shouldnt make a difference at all, you should take it to a recovery center08:35
e-typeAndrukTatum: did they show up in locations - > computer ?08:35
sethkJoseStefan, I wouldn't go below the drive's low temperature rating08:35
wheelswitchMadpilot:  here goes...08:36
AndrukTatumJoseStefan: in my experience, as long as it feels cool to the touch, youre good to go, but you might have to do it more than once08:36
JoseStefani thought cooling was for platter and head issues08:36
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JoseStefanif the chips are bad, it wont do a thing08:36
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sethkJoseStefan, yes, I agree08:37
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AndrukTatume-type: they do, but i cant access them nor change their permissions08:37
sethkJoseStefan, a PCB thermal is theoretically possible, but I've never seen one for that type of sudden failure08:37
JoseStefanone thing is certain, the more trials-and-error you do, the less likely a service center can recover the data08:37
sethkJoseStefan, yes, I agree with that as well08:37
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JoseStefantry finding a service center that wont charge you if they fail08:38
brendonjtjsethk:oh ok,  but the bios  don't even pick it up now  i get the error  primary ide channel no 80 conductor cable installed08:38
e-typeAndrukTatum: is there no "mount" option?08:38
AndrukTatumthat would be the best option08:38
sethkbrendonjt, if you happen to have another drive of the identical model you can swap the PC board08:38
AndrukTatume-type: there is, it says that the device is not removable and it could not execute pmount08:39
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brendonjtsethk:no i don't buggar it all grr08:39
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gary4gar!paste08:39
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:39
AndrukTatumoh, should i mount them through the terminal?08:39
e-typeAndrukTatum: try a sudo mount /dev/hd* ;)08:39
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JoseStefani started making DVD backups of all my essential stuff like one month ago, plan to do them at least every 3 months08:39
JoseStefani never did backups before08:39
e-typeAndrukTatum: * being the right letter+integer08:39
sethkbrendonjt, if it is electronics, then the data can certainly be recovered08:39
brendonjtsethk:hopefully  but here in new zealand  that kind of thing  is big money08:40
sethkJoseStefan, well, that's the real answer, back up anything that isn't on RAID storage.  We are just helping someone compensate for not having done that08:40
brendonjtbrb08:40
AndrukTatume-type: righto, did that, and it says it cant find the drives in fstab or mtab08:40
AndrukTatume-type: so now i get to edit fstab and/or mtab?08:40
mkquist_last time if recovered a buggered drive it involved the freezer and a ziplock bag08:40
sethkbrendonjt, it's expensive to disassemble  the drive and recover, yes.  but to swap the pc board is not usually expensive08:40
JoseStefanbrendonjt, in my country it's not even an option, i would have to ship it overseas08:40
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e-typeAndrukTatum: I wouldn't put them there, useless in a live session. point it to some mountpoint. see man mount ;)08:40
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e-typeAndrukTatum: '$ mount -t <type> <dev> <path>'08:41
JoseStefansethk, a friend of mine lost his drive, about a month ago, then i realized: It could have happened to me08:41
nocliphey all! i've got a fairly noobtastic question: how do you *downgrade* a package with aptitude (or apt-get)?08:41
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sethkJoseStefan, I back up religiously, have for 20 years.  You only have to get seriously burned once to learn08:42
ketawhy i can't connect (edgy) with network-manager on a wpa psk network? if i re-define my /etc/network/interfaces, wpa-supplicant called via if-up works fine08:42
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JoseStefannoclip, with apt-get, use install option, and add a suffix with the version "=version"08:42
dadhow to connect other server?08:42
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JoseStefannoclip, sudo apt-get install mypackage=12.3408:43
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JoseStefanketa, try #ubuntu+108:43
e-typedad: connect with what to which server and to what purpose?08:43
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noclipJoseStefan: ah, so simple. thanks!08:43
AndrukTatume-type: type is the fs, dev is /dev/hd* and path is the path where i want to mount it, right?08:43
ketaJoseStefan: thanks08:43
JoseStefansethk, never know how much you want/need/love something, until you loose it08:44
e-typeAndrukTatum: yep, type for example ntfs/ext3/vfat , dev for example /dev/hda1, path /path/to/some/mountpoint08:44
AndrukTatumlose08:44
noclip(dammit i just lost The Game)08:44
AndrukTatume=type: it says my mountpoint doesnt exist08:44
JoseStefank08:44
dadto irc.lv it's server where my friends are siting :)08:44
AndrukTatum*e-type: it says my mountpoint doesnt exist08:45
sethkAndrukTatum, the mount point must exist.  it's just a directory, create it with mkdir08:45
e-typeAndrukTatum: so what do you do then? create it!08:45
AndrukTatum>.<08:45
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e-typeI'm actually not sure if the live cd is or is not supposed to do this from nautilus or gnome-mount-manager automagically...08:45
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wheelswitchMadpilot:  I quite like this music player, cheers.08:47
wheelswitchthat said, if there are any other music players out there, that have an itunes like interface, and arnt rhythmbox, let me know.08:48
Madpilotwheelswitch, no prob - I switched to Muine from RB ages ago, I think it's far more usable for basic album playing08:48
AndrukTatume-type: okay, thanks!08:48
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AndrukTatumseth: thanks again man!08:48
e-typeAndrukTatum: np08:49
gary4garwarbo08:49
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e-typeAndrukTatum: be carefull what you change on your alien drives ;)08:49
piphow to send a program to font in a terminal ?08:49
AndrukTatumlol08:49
piphuelp08:49
piphelp08:49
gary4garpip just drag it there??08:49
brendonjte-type:  from what i gather  the live cd don't mount the hdd's  but some one here could correct me08:49
gary4garwith mouse08:50
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pipgary4gar, it is running in backguound08:50
Dummeylive cd mounted my external hdd and fat32 partition08:50
e-typebrendonjt: yup, not sure either... I'd consider it only safe not to give too easy access to them if you take into account the average level of linux knowledge here. (no offense to anyone)08:50
JoseStefanbrendonjt, i believe it mounts them but you need sudo to do anything with them08:50
gary4garfirst tell me in detail pip08:50
gary4garwhat are u up to??08:51
pipgary4gar, how to send a program which is running under background to front in a terminal ?08:51
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JoseStefanpip, try jobs and fg08:51
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CaptainMorganplease convince me to go with Ubuntu on my new desktop dual core build... Ive ubuntu before for about a year and now Im using kubuntu on my laptop.. my installation of fedora is NOT going like I planned.. i wished for a different flavor.. but now having experience ubuntu and knowing it works-out-of-box on alot of things.. i feel it's time to try it08:51
brendonjtjosestefan: true,  tried on a clients of mine  to access his  sata  drives and nope  no access not even under su08:51
pipgary4gar, commands08:51
gary4garpip:is it already running??08:52
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pipyes08:52
JoseStefanpip, try "jobs" and "fg"08:52
e-typeCaptainMorgan: ubuntu is in general the easiest distro to setup. this also means you get the least choices for yourself.08:52
e-typeCaptainMorgan: judging from what you say, you won't mind losing some freedom ;)08:52
lee_xubuntu it awsome on older machines, blows win 98 out of the water for performance o the pII 400 i just built out of junk for my daughter08:52
CaptainMorgane-type, choices?08:53
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pipJoseStefan, Thank you08:53
CaptainMorganI found ubuntu to be very open in freedom my experience..08:53
pipgary4gar, Thank you08:53
CaptainMorganwhat did I miss?08:53
e-typeCaptainMorgan: like, I want package A over B, I want my config like this or like that, I don't want to rape standard unix security, whatever choices the admin can make08:53
gary4garpip:no problems08:54
JoseStefanpip, np08:54
lee_anyone here have experaince getting Magic the gathering on-line to work with ubuntu?08:54
e-typeCaptainMorgan: limiting choices is the reason for ubuntu's succes, most users don't have the knowledge to handle choice"08:54
JoseStefan!games08:54
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php08:54
JoseStefanlee_ see if that has anything ^^^08:54
Dummey!wireless08:54
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:54
lee_will do08:55
Dummeywoot08:55
e-typeDummey: pipe bot output to yourself for reference please ;)08:55
Dummeylol sorry, i didn't know it would actually work08:56
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JoseStefan/msg ubutu works too08:56
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JoseStefanubotu*08:56
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e-typeDummey: use a msg, don't know if '>' syntax works witht hem08:56
CaptainMorgane-type, im all for choice.. but not even seeing a network after fedora's installation, so I can update the kernel is really disconcerting.. I did everything I could to activate eth0 and it just wont work... and I can't even access my ntfs partition through mounting.. 'unknown fs 'ntfs', my hope is that ubuntu will AT LEAST see the network08:56
CaptainMorganwhen I activate it08:56
lee_nope not on either site08:56
AndyIsMVPcan som1 help with me with wlan on ubuntu?08:56
gary4gar@<Dummey> u can pm him08:56
Dummeywill do, thanks for the advice08:57
gary4garnp08:57
e-typeCaptainMorgan: if you're all for choice you'll have to learn bit ;)08:57
mutkCaptainMorgan, I just answered your q in #fedora BTW08:57
feeti there. i just installed kubuntu-desktop. now i want to get rid of GNOME. presumably im supposed to remove ubuntu-desktop, but that just seems to get rid of that virtual package and nothing else? how do i get rid of gnome? thanks!08:57
dcstimm_anyone know how to make a multisession cd with two isos?08:57
AndyIsMVPany1 here know anything about wireless in ubuntu?08:57
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mirfshould I download the 'alternate cd' if I want to be able to have control over partitions, ie install xubuntu to hda8 rather than let it repartition to it's own liking (which is what happened last time I trid installing ubuntu from a livecd)08:58
Lynoure!anyone08:58
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:58
couli1how can i seed whats in deb http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ dapper main aiglx  i mean the real address, i woudl liek to try to get the pacakge manualy the update is screwed i got error header everytime08:58
AlienXubotu, tell AndyIsMVP about wireless08:58
couli1*seed= see08:58
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feetmirf: the live cd have a manual partition editor08:58
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couli1 http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ubuntu/dists/dapper doesnt exists08:59
AndyIsMVPwell the question is: I got my wlan card to work by using the native drivers and then i shut-down and logged on again and it won't work anymore :(08:59
e-typeAndyIsMVP: native being ndiswrapper?08:59
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gary4garguys i need ur help!09:00
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LetterRiphi all, who should I talk to about the possibility of getting blender included in the main distribution?09:00
gary4garmy k3b has produced some error when i tried burning my iso which i converted from .bin09:00
mirffeet, great09:01
AndyIsMVPe-type: since ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf didn't work i was told to. cd /etc/modprobe.d then sudo vi blacklist and insert blacklist ndiswrapper and finally configure my wlan in network-admin and it worked.09:01
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gary4garhere is the error09:01
gary4garhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2203109:01
gary4garsome1 pls check this09:01
AndyIsMVPe-type: I was told that the above technique is using "native drivers"09:01
couli1can someone tell me the mapping between an entry in apt source-lsit and a real url ?09:01
e-typeAndyIsMVP: in that case you probably need to load your right kernel module09:01
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JoseStefanfeet, try #kubuntu they might know09:02
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feetim there now09:02
couli1Err http://ubuntu.compiz.net dapper/aiglx gnome-session 2.14.3-0ubuntu2 Bad header line09:02
Dummeyhow long should activating a wireless interface take?09:03
AndyIsMVPe-type: what do you mean im new to linux09:03
e-typeDummey: be more precise about "activating" ;)09:03
JoseStefanfeet, you probably have to remove packages that start with "gnome-" but it may just be some and not all09:04
Dummeye-type: when i go into network settings and hit activate after configuring09:04
e-typeAndyIsMVP: find out what kernel module you have to load for your card, and check that it's loaded.09:04
e-typeAndyIsMVP: kernel module is a driver if you wish09:04
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e-typeAndyIsMVP: pluggable part of the linux kernel09:04
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AndyIsMVPe-type: how do i check?09:04
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gary4gardummey09:05
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e-typeDummey: that depends on how fast your kernel module is inserted, if it needs external firmware, is it a dhcp interface, ...09:05
e-typeAndyIsMVP: '$ lsmod' shows your loaded kernel modules, google shows you the right module09:05
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gary4gare-type09:06
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Dummeye-type: yes it is a dhcp interface and it's running off RaLink driver09:06
AndyIsMVPe-type: if it helps, when i go into network-admin atm i can choose my router or my neighbours router (so i guess that means it knows the card is in there) and the light on the pci-card is flashing when i configure the wlan card09:06
Surfnkidhow can i send a bunch of files via ftp (CLI) in one bunch?09:06
gary4gare-type, i need ur help!09:06
Surfnkidi typed put *.* and it wont do it, itll send one file09:06
e-typeAndyIsMVP: then your kernel module is definetely loaded and your nic works. define your network correctly and it the interface should be up09:07
Surfnkid!ftp09:07
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd09:07
brendonjtbrb09:07
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e-typegary4gar: I can see that, ask your question and don't ask to ask ;)09:07
gary4garmy k3b has produced some error when i tried burning my iso which i converted from .bin09:07
JoseStefanSurfnkid, there is an alternate put, i dont remember it, probably mput09:07
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couli1can you guys acces this ? http://ubuntu.compiz.net/pool/aiglx/g/gnome-session/gnome-session_2.14.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb09:08
gary4gar here is the error09:08
gary4garhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2203109:08
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gary4garsome pls check it09:08
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|thunderhow do I start a process 'jobs' says is stopped ?09:09
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tehsuserver irc.tsunade.net09:09
tehsuer09:09
tehsusorry09:10
AndyIsMVPe-type: what do u mean by define my network correctly?09:10
Dummeye-type: so uh, it's still trying to activate; does this mean something broke?09:10
AndyIsMVPe-type: when i make any changes it says enabling wlan0 or something and it takes 4eva!09:10
HockoWhat is the best linux distro?09:10
DummeyHocko: there is no best =P09:10
mutkHocko, What a loaded question !!09:10
JustawayHocko, Ubuntu09:10
gary4garhacko ubuntu:P09:10
e-typeAndyIsMVP: setup your network settings correctly like wep key and all. this could very well be a problem in your router/ap09:10
JustawayHocko, Depends on what you want to do - but for desktop, I would say Ubuntu09:11
JoseStefanHocko, MS-DOS version 3.0009:11
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AndyIsMVPe-type: but it worked before with the current settings...09:11
muhammadlol09:11
e-typeDummey: this could be something in your router, prolly waiting for a dhcp offer09:11
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HockoI'm currrently running Windows 3.11 for workgroups.09:11
flasherhow do i set up my (phone) modem?09:11
JustawayHocko, Really?09:11
gary4gare-type???09:11
JustawayI would actually keep that - it was speedy09:11
HockoNo.09:11
muhammad!dialup09:11
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto09:11
Hockolol09:11
flasheri have it in my computer, but linux says that /dev/modem aint' working09:11
Justawayoh :(09:11
flashermuhammad: thanks09:12
Hockoit was cool tho.09:12
flasherwill loook at that likn09:12
e-typegary4gar: patience09:12
Hockoback in the day when computing was fun09:12
gary4garok09:12
muhammadflasher> yvw :)09:12
Teh_wrk1n|DogHi! Im busy setting up Evolution Im on the screen where you specify to recive mail from an exchange server and it wont move forward. What does the OWA URL Field mean?09:12
JoseStefanfun was playing doom1 over my 2400 baud modem when the internet barely existed09:13
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Hocko2400Mwahahaha!09:13
HockoEvil......09:13
e-typegary4gar: there was a write error, not sure if anything is wrong with your setup09:13
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JoseStefanand mom asking what was wrong with the phone09:14
e-typeAndyIsMVP: your device is working correctly, you have a network problem09:14
togelhi09:14
gary4gar-e-type:btw what can be cause of write error09:14
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e-typeAndyIsMVP: if your device wasn't working correctly you wouldn't have seen any networks09:14
JoseStefan...of course that meant the end of the match too09:14
|thunderfun was downloading10 second pron clips from BBS's before anyone ever even heard of trumpet winsock.09:14
e-typegary4gar: from a bad disk over a bump while writing to a buffer underrun09:14
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HockoI saw my first pron pix on a bbs09:15
HockoI became a man.09:15
JoseStefanlol09:15
gary4gare-type: what can be done to avoid future errors09:15
e-typegary4gar: it's started writing allright, something went wrong during the process09:15
e-typegary4gar: no clue, this is prolly a hw issue09:15
AndyIsMVPe-type: but it was working then i shut-down then l8r i turned-on and it didn't work09:15
e-typegary4gar: try again09:15
Dummeye-type: when it's trying to activate it won't let me open anything else such as my terminal; could the activation be tying something up?09:15
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Teh_wrk1n|Dogcan anyone help?09:16
Teh_wrk1n|DogHi! Im busy setting up Evolution Im on the screen where you specify to recive mail from an exchange server and it wont move forward. What does the OWA URL Field mean?09:16
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e-typeAndyIsMVP: I can't advise you anything else than double check your settings and start tinkering. obviously something changed on your box or in your router. your device works09:16
thingyTeh_wrk1n|Dog: OWA = Outlook Web Access09:16
NickGarveyTeh_wrk1n|Dog: outlook web address09:17
bencehi09:17
e-typethingy: that's the server's url09:17
|thundersomegeek, is this right? does the nohup command prefix make it so processes run even after i log out of X ?09:17
e-typethingy: sorry09:17
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e-typethingy: was meant for Teh_wrk1n|Dog  ;)09:17
JoseStefan|thunder, what are you trying to do?09:17
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|thunderJoseStefan, undersetand what nohup does.09:18
JoseStefan|thunder, "man nohup"09:18
AndyIsMVPe-type: ok im going to restart and start fiddling. anything u suggest fiddling with first?09:18
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Dummeywould finding a ethernet cable solve all this wireless crap or is setting up a normal lan a pain too?09:19
Teh_wrk1n|Dogthingy: It still wont move forward after i entered my e-mail09:19
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Teh_wrk1n|Dogthingy: the forward button is still not active09:20
e-typeAndyIsMVP: nope, all wifi settings in general, it can be something really stupid09:20
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thingyTeh_wrk1n|Dog: one sec09:20
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e-typeAndyIsMVP: never trust the black art of wifi config, lol09:20
Teh_wrk1n|Dogthingy: I do have to enter example@example.com right?09:20
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gansinhohello... I need some help, If someone could guide me through 2 "small" probles would be great09:21
gansinhoproblems*09:21
JoseStefan!anyone09:21
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:21
gansinhojust to be polite09:21
Tobahm.09:21
muhammadlol09:22
thingyTeh_wrk1n|Dog: I'm just googling for an example on how to configure Evolution to use an Exchange server...for example, look at this...and tell me which point you got as far as to: http://www.answers.vt.edu/ask4help/email/vtkb2262.htm09:22
muhammaddont ask to ask gan09:22
muhammadgo ahead ;)09:22
e-typegansinho: sure, there's only so many people polite, try to understand ;)09:22
JoseStefanwe dont mind, you can actually ask first and say hi later09:22
gansinho=)09:22
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e-typeright, time to start studying...09:23
e-typelaterz all ;)09:23
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JoseStefana thanks at the end is a must, otherwise we feed you to ubotu09:23
gansinho(sorry I'm brazilian, I'm a bit slow in my english-mode) ok, I have a nvidia Fx5200 detected by my ubuntu... howber when I was using some gDesklets the look ugly, I thought that it could be some video problem... how do I know if my video card is correctly recognized / configured09:24
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gansinho(in "device manager" I can see it ...)09:24
JoseStefan!tell gansinho about nvidia09:25
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Dummeylol, my wireless has been trying to activate for 30 min now; i can't x it out nor can i start anything else09:25
gansinhoun... ok... I rarely use the english forum...09:25
Dummeydoes this mean that my wireless card isn't recieving information or that i'm having an error somewhere else?09:26
JoseStefangansinho, try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:26
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gansinhook second problem... I've reformated one partiotion here, from NTFS to Vfat (in ubuntu) but now I can't mount... not even via sudo gedit /etc/fstab or sudo mount...09:27
gansinhoJoseStefan: thanks!09:27
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gansinhoI'm reading =)09:27
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mkquist_gansinho-in fstab u did change the filetype?09:28
JoseStefanno problem09:28
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gansinhoyes I did09:28
Dummey anybody?09:29
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gansinhoIt's like this ... (may I paste a line here?09:29
mkquist_i dont mind...09:29
JoseStefan!pastebin09:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:29
gansinhomkquist_: like this /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       109:29
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gansinhoists just one line09:29
JoseStefanok09:29
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JoseStefan1 is ok09:29
gansinhothanks anyway!09:29
mkquist_lol09:30
gansinhowhat?09:30
geoffTheFishwhat is xorg and why is it constantly taking 50% + of my cpu?  sometimes 80/90%09:30
mkquist_nothing the the pastebin thing09:30
juantelezhi everyone09:30
gansinhojuantelez: hi09:30
mkquist_have u restarted?09:30
juantelezI had this strage problem09:30
gansinhoyup09:30
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, xorg is your window manager (aka gui)09:30
gansinhoin nautilus it says that only the root can mount it...09:31
geoffTheFishJoseStefan, something is amiss tho?  that is too much cpu09:31
gansinhoso I go to terminal and "sudo nautilus"09:31
gansinhobut now the error is different09:31
juantelezI can not acces to "Start screen" or something like that in Sistem - Preferences09:32
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, is everything closed when you take the reading? what are you using to monitor it?09:32
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: top09:32
juantelezhi gansinho09:32
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: no i have konqueror and xchat open09:32
gansinhomkquist_:  may I pvt you?09:32
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JoseStefangeoffTheFish, are you running top in xterm?09:32
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: in the terminal, yes09:33
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mkquist_did u try gksudo?09:33
juantelezanyone has a clue why this is happening?09:33
mkquist_to change permissions ...09:33
mkquist_and yes u can pm09:33
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, try same scenario, but run top outside of X (ctrl+alt+f1)09:34
mkquist_gansinho-did you try gksudo?09:34
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geoffTheFishJoseStefan: is ctrl alt f1 the command that takes you out of gui?  if so how do i get back?  thinked i did this once before and ended up rebooting!09:35
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JoseStefangeoffTheFish, good question (ctrl+alt+f7)09:35
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geoffTheFishJoseStefan: ok ta, here goes...09:36
ubuntuhi every109:36
gansinhomkquist_: no how do I do that?09:36
mkquist_gansinho- alt/f2 then run gksudo nautilus09:36
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Chanduhi09:36
mkquist_gansinho, had same prob w/mounting and accessing and that fixed it09:36
Teh_wrk1n|Dogthingy09:36
thingyTeh_wrk1n|Dog: yep09:36
ChanduMay I know how dpkg-reconfigure works09:36
Teh_wrk1n|Dogpvt pls09:36
mkquist_gansinho-give u root gui to do same things, like permissions09:37
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: it drops to 23% when i run it like that09:37
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ubuntuhey geoff :)09:37
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, sometimes taking the readings within X adds overhead09:37
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anAngelhi how can i build a kernel 2.6 without /dev support in it? I need to be configured to not automatically mount  /dev (devfs) by default09:38
gansinhomkquist_: no =( not even with gksudo09:38
Teh_wrk1n|Dogthingy: you there? can you see any msgs i type?09:38
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geoffTheFishJoseStefan: so that is a more accurate figure?  cos it climbed to 90% before and stuff was running slowly, after i logged out and in it dropped to the current 50%09:38
gansinhomkquist_: its the same second error that I pasted in PVT to you09:38
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, if X still feels slugish you could check stuff like, using a CPU specific kernel, and using propietary video drivers09:38
ubuntuthingy: hi there09:38
holycowheh, this is just rude --> http://dilbert.com/09:39
ubuntuthingy:  can u see Teh_wrk1n|Dog ?09:39
thingyTeh_wrk1n|Dog: Nope, your msgs arent getting to me09:39
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holycowfunny thing is i know people like that09:39
holycowand the funnier thing is, they really are unqualified for a life of crime09:39
geoffTheFishJoseStefan:  maybe the drivers cos windows leave traces when i move them and i get odd flashes when i click on top menu icons?09:39
Teh_wrk1n|DogPrivate messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )09:39
MadpilotTeh_wrk1n|Dog, you need to be registered & id'd to P09:39
mkquist_didnt receive private... sry09:39
thingyTeh_wrk1n|Dog: ah!09:39
ubuntuhey Madpilot09:39
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, i would check the kernel 1st, what kernel are you using and what CPU do you have?09:40
holycowheh, this is just rude --> http://dilbert.com/09:40
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thingyTeh_wrk1n|Dog: in that case type in /join #thingy09:40
mkquist_gansinho-didnt rec pvt09:40
Madpilothi ubuntu - you really should pick a unique nickname, you know...09:40
mkquist_gansinho-sry09:40
gansinhoI'll try that again09:40
gansinhook09:40
D0wnHas anyone used the program "MoBlock"?09:40
ubuntuMadpilot: it is unique :)09:40
geoffTheFishJoseStefan:  is there a command that tells the kernal version?  i basically upgraded from breezy to dapper last month09:40
mkquist_not hardly09:40
mkquist_lol09:40
ubuntulol09:41
anAngelhi Anybody to know how can i build a kernel 2.6 without /dev support in it? I need to be configured to not automatically mount  /dev (devfs) by default09:41
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, "uname -a"09:41
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gansinhomkquist_: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,  missing codepage or other error"09:42
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: 2.6.15-26-38609:42
ubuntuaaw dont ya guys like my name :(09:42
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, what CPU do you have?09:42
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geoffTheFishJoseStefan:  cant remember, let me take a look...09:42
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Blacklightanyone know the off-topic channel?09:43
ubuntugansinho:  trying to mount something?09:43
gansinhoyep09:43
ubuntumounting what?09:43
holycowBlacklight, yes, #windows09:43
holycow*cough*09:43
JoseStefan!offtopic09:44
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:44
Blacklightlolol09:44
holycow*whistle*09:44
_azraelBlacklight: #ubuntu-offtopic09:44
Blacklightthanks guys09:44
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holycowno prob09:44
gansinhoa partiotion recently reformated from NTFS to Vfat09:44
D0wnHas anyone used MoBlock before?09:44
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gansinhoin ntfs I could mount it easly... but now that it's in Vfat I can't09:44
ubuntugansinho:  type mount -t vfat device    mount-point09:44
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geoffTheFishJoseStefan: hmmm, i cant see from device manager, it just says unknown - do i need to boot up my windoze partition to find out?09:45
dtanghello09:45
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JoseStefangeoffTheFish, is it a branded PC, you might be able to find out thru the manufacturer website09:45
Softlowcan someone help me with partitioning?09:45
PiTTwhat is the best guide to installing xgl/compiz on ubuntu for nvidia cards?09:46
JoseStefan!tell gansinho about windowsdrives09:46
Gooblakanhello09:46
geoffTheFishJoseStefan:  yes, tis sony laptop, i will take a look...09:46
mkquist_gansinho: sry, was trying to get the pm sorted out09:46
PiTTcant find a decent one...all of the ones ive seen are incomplete09:46
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ubuntugeoffTheFish: trying to find cpy into?09:46
gansinhomkquist_: i'm not registred... I can't send pm..09:46
ubuntucpu*09:46
gansinhomy fould09:46
gansinhomy foult09:46
ubuntuinfo*09:47
mkquist_gansinho:-i should be able to get anyway09:47
SoftlowI have a Windows partition and a Ubuntu partition and I want to shrink the Windows Partition and expand the Ubuntu partition. How would I do that?09:47
GooblakanCan anyone help me get a parallel port scanner working?09:47
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ubuntumkquist_:  only registered member can get PM's right?09:47
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gansinhoubuntu : now I reboot?09:47
Gooblakancan anyone see me?09:47
mkquist_ubuntu-it supposed to depend how u set it if youll accept or not09:48
gansinhoGooblakan: yup09:48
ubuntugansinho: no reboot required09:48
ubuntuthis is linux09:48
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, try this command: cat /proc/cpuinfo09:48
Gooblakanthanks gan09:48
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ubuntugansinho: just chk the mount point u should be able to access win shares09:48
gansinhoubuntu but now the partition isn' there anymore?09:48
gansinhothe partition is empty09:48
ubuntucan u see it in the link?09:49
chris449hi, i'm in a command prompt only situation, how do i start the network?09:49
ubuntutype fdisk -l09:49
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gansinhoI want to have a partition to swap things over the OS's09:49
mkquist_gansinho:-and paste the results09:49
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: ah cool, it is a celeron 2.8Ghz09:49
mkquist_in the pastebin09:49
gansinhomy mom can't use anything but windows09:49
ubuntuk09:49
gansinhono result... =(09:49
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, install this package: linux-68609:49
mkquist_fdisk -l?09:49
mkquist_no result09:50
mkquist_sudo09:50
mkquist_gansinho: sudo09:50
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: ok09:50
mkquist_gansinho: or sudo -s for the duration09:50
JoseStefan!binarydriver > geoffTheFish09:50
gansinho/dev/hdb1               1        2612    20980858+   b  W95 FAT3209:50
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ubuntuok so hdb1 is there as fat3209:51
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, after you install the new kernel, reboot into it (it will show on the boot menu)09:51
gansinhoso ... isn't that right? both windows and linux can write/read easly FAT 32 can't they?09:51
ubuntuyes they can09:51
geoffTheFishJoseStefan:  what does that package do then (i ask as i trustingly install it anykway!!)09:52
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geoffTheFishJoseStefan: so is a different kernal?09:52
mkquist_geoffTheFish..lol09:52
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mkquist_"as i trustingly install it anyway"09:52
gansinhothe only problem is that  I can't mount it... =// the other ntfs I did09:52
ubuntugansinho:  try this09:52
mkquist_gansinho: when u mount -a what does it say?09:53
ubuntugansinho:  type sudo mkdir /media/hdb109:53
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, the linux-686 is a dummy package that depends on the linux-image and modules packages for 686 processors09:53
shaigirl67hi all09:53
Gooblakananyone know how to detect scanners on the parallel port?09:53
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gansinhosyas that the file exists09:53
gansinhosays09:53
ubuntugansinho:  ok good09:53
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JoseStefangeoffTheFish, 686 processors is basicly everything intel has releaseased since the pentium 209:53
tepsipakkihi, how do I change kde _not_ to show the desktop when the screen is locked?09:53
ubuntutype sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb09:53
gansinhoalready mounted according to mtab09:54
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ubuntuthen u shold be able to access it09:54
mkquist_gansinho:-clear it out of fstab09:54
tomthorgalhello :)09:54
mkquist_then umount it09:54
ubuntutype sudo ls -l /media/hdb109:54
gansinhoit also says that it's busy09:54
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, after you install it, you will reboot, and you'll have a new option on the boot menu with the new kernel, the old kernel will still be there too09:54
mkquist_then try his last mount command09:55
gansinhomaybe busy09:55
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mkquist_gansinho:-ull have to umount it first then09:55
Gooblakanhello tom09:55
mrjoeciao a tuttti09:55
gansinhook... 1-delete from fstab 2-unmount 3-mount 4- write in fstab ?09:55
ubuntumkquist_: i did try register my name09:55
ubuntuhow do i make sure it registered?09:55
mkquist_ubuntu, ya im having probs w/that too09:56
tomthorgalCould someone tell me how I can exit x11 to just get back to the prompt? I need to install nvidia drivers and need to exit my xwindow for it.09:56
ubuntuoh ok09:56
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: ok, cool i will give it a go.  thanks for the advice09:56
Lobsterwhat name do you want to register?09:56
mrjoei have a problem with inetd and swat....09:56
gansinhomkquist_: it's here!!!09:56
mkquist_lol where09:56
ubuntugansinho: make backups before modifying any file09:56
gansinhoI did not have to mount09:56
gansinholol09:56
mrjoesomeone can halp me?09:56
gansinhodon't know09:56
mkquist_gansinho: what did u change?09:56
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, after you have it running, you could give "top" a try, but i would install the video drivers as well09:56
ubuntugansinho:  congrats ;)09:56
gansinho sudo fdisk -l09:57
gansinhoi think that this is the magic command09:57
JoseStefantomthorgal, you should need to exit x11 to install video drivers09:57
JoseStefantomthorgal, shouldn't*09:57
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: ok, i will need windoze to tell me the video card tho?09:57
mkquist_gansinho: congrats..09:57
mrjoeok09:57
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gansinho(I'm newb, totally... so the terminal is a great temple of magic... in which things happen when I type wright things)09:58
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, or receipt / manufacturer website09:58
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JoseStefangeoffTheFish, whatever is easier for you09:58
mkquist_gansinho: was pretty happy to get mine mounted ...did you mount in media?09:58
Gooblakananyone know anything about scanners and the parallel port?09:58
mkquist_gansinho: or mnt?09:58
ubuntugansinho:  learn to use man09:58
tomthorgalAfter sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run the prompt tells me I need to exit x11.09:58
ubuntuman mount09:58
ubuntuman command-name09:58
gansinhoI'm with ubuntu for 2 weeks now09:58
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JoseStefantomthorgal, did you consider the drivers in the ubuntu repositories? those are much easier to install.09:59
GooblakanI would like to talk to a linux guru please......    :(09:59
gansinhomkquist_:  yes, it's mounted in /media09:59
mkquist_gansinho: then its on ur desktop09:59
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mkquist_too?09:59
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: its ATI Radeon(TM)09:59
geoffTheFishIGP 345M09:59
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gansinhonop.. =/10:00
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yum99hi all, we use ubuntu clients at our school. the server is using openldap. the kids cannot use sound and usb stick because they arent in the groups audio and plugdev. can I tell the clients with the ldap server that all 1000 users are in the group audio and plugdev?10:00
ubuntugansinho: r u using kde?10:00
mkquist_gansinho: hmm10:00
ubuntuor gnome?10:00
gansinhonope...10:00
gansinhoI can enter it10:00
gansinhognome10:00
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ubuntuthen it should be on desktop like mkquist_ said10:00
JoseStefantomthorgal, i cant msg you back, not registered :(10:00
gansinhoVia nautilus > computer > hdb110:00
JoseStefan!nvidia > tomthorgal10:01
gansinhobut it's great not to be in desktop10:01
tomthorgalno problem :)10:01
bejoyGooblakan, How much you are willing to pay to talk to GURU?10:01
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mkquist_gansinho: if its mounted in media, can u access it? like write to it?10:01
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gansinhoI wish I could remove the others ....  (they make me remember windows)10:01
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JoseStefangeoffTheFish, i have never installed the ati drivers :(10:01
kOpterYello :)10:01
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kOpterI've got a strange problem: on cold boot, my hardware sometimes doesn't get recognized... So I have no mouse, network or anything...10:02
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kOpterRebooting solves this 9/10 times...10:02
gansinhoyes... I have some problems...10:02
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mkquist_gansinho: remove what others? more on desktop?10:02
gansinhoI can't write in it... =(10:02
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mkquist_gansinho: permissions again?10:02
ubuntugansinho: lol i think u forgot to cange fstab file10:02
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, it is possible you might have to keep the same drivers you are using now, as the propietary ones are usually for standalone add-in cards10:02
gansinhoremove the other  partitions that it mount automatically in the boot10:02
ubuntuchange*10:02
gansinhojust the "shortcuts"10:02
gansinhofrom desktop10:03
ubuntugansinho: paste ur fstab file on pastebin.com10:03
mkquist_gansinho: trash those if u want then10:03
JoseStefangeoffTheFish, the kernel image should make a difference, lets hope its big enough10:03
geoffTheFishJoseStefan:  apt is telling me there is a package which is a video driver for ATI graphics accelerators, is that what i need?10:03
mkquist_!pastebin10:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:03
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JoseStefangeoffTheFish, the package might not include your ATI model10:04
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geoffTheFishJoseStefan: will it hurt to install it?10:04
ubuntumake sure fstab setting for hdb1 has changed to vfat and it is not in ro mode10:04
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JoseStefangeoffTheFish: yes, it might hurt10:04
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Gooblakancan anyone help me?10:04
JoseStefangeoffTheFish: stick with the 686 kernel for now, lets hope the improvment is big enough10:05
ubuntuGooblakan: ask the question, if some1 can they will help10:05
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gansinhoit's in pastebin guys10:05
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Gooblakanhow do I detect a parallel port scanner?  I believe it is supported by XSane10:06
gansinhoname = gansinho10:06
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tepsipakkiyum99: use pam_group10:06
geoffTheFishJoseStefan: ok it has installed so i will reboot, back on the channel later, thanks for the advice10:06
JoseStefangeoffTheFish: ok10:07
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HFallhello. I hope this is the right place for my question...10:07
tepsipakkiyum99: in /etc/pam.d/gdm add "auth    optional        pam_group.so"10:07
HFallI have problem with i810 X module10:07
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gansinhomkquist_ , and ubuntu I'ts already in pastebin.com10:07
mkquist_gansinho: k10:08
tepsipakkiyum99: and in /etc/security/group.conf something like "gdm;*;*;Al0000-2400;floppy,audio,cdrom,plugdev"10:08
tepsipakki(that's what we use)10:08
HFallwhen I try to use ubuntu on my TV in 1360x768 it not works :(10:08
tepsipakkinow can someone tell me which component in KDE is responsible for locking the screen??10:08
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brendonjthi ya all  back10:09
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ubuntugansinho: did u not get a link?10:09
HFallI tried tune it with 915resolution but there is no effect10:10
gansinhopastebin.com/77953210:10
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HFallcan you tell me idea where I make mistake?10:11
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ChurriQuien me puede contestar pues estoy solo10:12
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Gooblakanwww.google.com10:13
gansinhoChurri: deves a procurar un canal de mirc para espanholes10:13
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livingdaylightthere is a red dot on my desktop!10:13
gansinhoesto es en ingles10:13
kOpterI've got a strange problem: on cold boot, my hardware sometimes doesn't get recognized... So I have no mouse, network or anything, but I do have harddrives and video10:13
Madpilot!es10:13
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:13
ubuntugansinho: ok 1 more ntfs is there10:13
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livingdaylightsi no hablamos espanol aqui10:14
livingdaylightsolo un poco10:14
Gooblakanno habla engles?10:14
ubuntugansinho: fist unmount hdb110:14
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Gooblakansorry10:15
mkquist_ubuntu how to see the pastebin please?10:15
gansinhosorry ubuntu... I don't know the codes10:15
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mkquist_gansinho umount hdb110:15
ubuntumkquist_:  in browser address bar type pastebin.com/77953210:15
gansinhomkquist_: http://pastebin/77953210:15
redondo81_Hi boys, can you tell me what is the command to erase a file/folder?Thanks10:15
mkquist_ubuntu-still waiting...hmm10:15
Gooblakanrmdir10:15
gansinhosudo right?10:15
ubuntuyes suod10:15
gansinhosudo umount hdb110:16
ubuntusudo*10:16
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ubuntudang it10:16
mkquist_got it10:16
Gooblakanredondo: rmdir -910:16
redondo81_thanks10:16
gansinhosudo umount /media/hdb110:16
Gooblakanwell rmdir anyway10:16
livingdaylightGooblakan: de donde eres, muchacho10:16
gansinhoor /dev/hdb1?10:16
mkquist_gansinho - if u want sudo -s will give u sudo for the terminal session so u dont have to keep typing sudo10:16
brendonjtubuntu: depends if the owner  of the directory  is the user or root10:16
livingdaylightCompanero Gooblakan, de donde eres?10:16
ubuntugansinho: /media/hdb110:17
gansinhomkquist_: YEPE!!!! thanks!10:17
gansinhoubuntu: umount: /media/hdb1: not mounted10:17
ubuntuu just unmounted it :O10:18
ubuntuusing sudo?10:18
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gansinhoso I mount10:18
gansinhonow?10:18
ubuntunot now10:18
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gansinhousing this :  mount -a /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ?10:18
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livingdaylightGooblakan: hablo con tigo!10:18
ubuntugedit /etc/fstab10:18
gansinhoubuntu: ok... in fstab i delete hdb1 line?10:19
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AndyIsMVPis my wireless card ment to show up as eth2? isn't it wlan???10:19
ubuntufirst make a backup of that file :D10:19
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gansinhodone!10:20
dangsonwhen i try to uninstall mozilla thunderbird, synaptic wants to remove xubuntu-desktop too. how can i just remove the former?10:20
ubuntuthen where it shows /dev/hdb1 line10:20
AndyIsMVPis my wireless card ment to show up as eth2? isn't it wlan???10:20
gansinhoyes...??10:20
AndyIsMVPhow can i change it to wlan0?10:21
ubuntuthere next to defaults option just keep default10:21
ubunturemove umask thingy10:21
ubuntuand nls thingy10:21
gansinhoumask=00710:21
cynicalAndyIsMVP: sudo ifconfig eth2 down , sudo ifconfig wlan0 up should work10:21
ubuntuyes10:21
ubunturemove it10:22
gansinhonls=utf8,10:22
ubunturemove it10:22
gansinhook... removed10:22
AndyIsMVPcynical: TY :)10:22
ubuntujust keep like defaults  0  010:22
Samuli^dangson, you shouldn't.10:22
cynicalAndyIsMVP: it worked? awesome10:22
brendonjtgansinho: i think that it is for  the desktop settings for thunderbird10:22
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AndyIsMVPcynical: i dunno i g2 reboot10:22
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gansinhobrendonjt: what?10:23
Samuli^dangson, xubuntu-desktop it's just a list of depencies, so you can easily install everything that should be on xfe-desktop.10:23
ubuntugansinho: close file and save change10:23
ubuntunow type mount -a10:23
gansinhosave and close... ok10:23
brendonjtgansinho: foe your question  about removing thunderbird10:23
ubuntusee if u can write now10:23
gansinhono it's not thunderbird10:23
Gooblakani'm having a problem detecting a parallel port scanner10:24
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gansinhomount -a /dev/hdb1 ?10:24
mkquist_gansinho - just mount -a10:24
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gansinhoor just mount -a10:24
gansinhook10:24
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ubuntumount -a10:24
mkquist_gansinho - any errors?10:24
dangsonSamuli^, so I can just proceed with removing thunderbird?10:24
ubuntunow try writing10:24
gansinhonot permissions10:24
AndyIsMVPcynical: ok reboot10:24
Samuli^dangson, yes.10:24
mkquist_gansinho - ok try this10:24
Gooblakandoes anyone know anything about parallel port devices?10:24
dangsonSamuli^, cool. thanks10:25
ubuntunot perm. :-?10:25
gansinhomkquist_: and when I enter nautilus as root the hdb1 dows not appear at all....10:25
mkquist_ gansinho- have u left nautilus open?10:26
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gansinhonop10:26
ubuntueh ?10:26
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mkquist_gansinho- not during all this huh?10:26
gansinhojust oppeened now to see if as root I could write10:26
gansinhono10:26
mkquist_gansinho-but u can cd there in terminal?10:27
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Gooblakanis there a method of auto detecting parallel port devices?10:27
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gansinhoyes10:28
mkquist_gansinho- can u mkdir there?10:28
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gansinhomkdir what?10:28
mkquist_gansinho-anything to see if u can write there10:29
mkquist_gansinho-doesnt matter what, u can delete it10:29
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gansinhoi dunno what mkdir does !!10:29
gansinhosorry10:29
mkquist_gansinho-try mkdir test10:29
thingyGooblakan: Whats the context of your query? Do wish to program this autodetection or are you trying to get something auto detected?10:29
gansinhoI'm really new to this10:29
JoseStefanmake directory10:29
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ubuntumkdir is used to make new folder10:30
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mkquist_gansinho- in terminal..it makes a directory, mkdir...10:30
gansinhothanks10:30
gansinhoit created10:30
vikI assume it isn't legal to assign the same IP to two different NICs in the one computer?10:30
gansinhoI can enter10:30
ubuntukool'10:30
ubuntuit worked  yay10:30
mkquist_gansinho-so its mounted then10:30
ubuntu:)10:30
gansinhoroot@XPC:/media/hdb1/test#10:30
Thunderpantsaside from xnest, what package do you need to get a login in a new window?10:30
mkquist_gansinho-and u can write as root, so how are u opening nautilus as root?10:30
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gansinhoI'll dothat10:31
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ubuntutype sudo nautilus10:31
gansinhoin "root nautilus"10:31
mkquist_gansinho-try alt/f2 and run gksudo nautilus10:31
gansinhothere is no icon to that partition10:31
gansinhojust to the others10:32
gansinhomybe I need to reboot?10:32
ubuntuthat will be fixed,dont worry10:32
mkquist_gansinho-in media?10:32
ubuntu;)10:32
mkquist_gansinho-id try a reboot10:32
gansinhonope... in ... "normal"10:32
gansinhosorry10:32
gansinho"computer"10:32
gansinhobutton...10:32
mkquist_gansinho-lol10:32
ubuntugansinho:  try this10:32
gansinhoI feel so dumb10:32
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ubuntuonce again open fstab10:32
ubuntusorry10:32
ubuntu:D10:32
vikis it possible to map the one name into two different IPs in /etc/hosts ?10:32
mkquist_gansinho-dont, it can be frustrating, learning over10:32
gansinhoits her10:33
gansinhoI found10:33
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gansinhoalone10:33
gansinhoihaa10:33
mkquist_gansinho-?? its there now?10:33
gansinhoin the folder10:33
gansinhomedia10:33
gansinhothere is a folder10:33
gansinhohdb 110:33
mkquist_gansinho-where it should be10:33
ubuntulol10:33
gansinhoinsede there is the folder test10:33
mkquist_gansinho-can u open it?10:33
gansinhothat we created10:33
mkquist_gansinho-can u write there, like make folder?10:33
gansinhoand there is no damn I forgot the word in english10:33
gansinhoI"ll try10:34
gansinhoyes I can10:34
ubuntukool10:34
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ubuntuawesome10:34
ubuntu;)10:34
gansinhothere is no lock icon in the folder!10:34
mkquist_gansinho-ok try opeing browser in ur user mode10:34
Samuli^so now you just have to make it so, that normal user can write to it :)10:34
gansinhook10:34
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mkquist_gansinho-right click on hd1 and check permissions10:35
Gooblakanis there any way to detect devices connected to the parallel port?10:35
vikHas anyone had any success in getting gnome samba browsing etc working?10:35
mkquist_gansinho-in nautilus10:35
gansinhoin user nautilus10:35
gansinhoor root nautilus?10:35
Samuli^gansinho, what file format is it?10:35
mkquist_gansinho-root, sry10:35
gansinhoVfat10:35
Thunderpantsdoes anybody know, aside from xnest, what package do you need to get a login in a new window?10:35
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mkquist_gansinho-there u can set permissions10:35
Gooblakanor even a way to detect if my parallel port is supported?10:35
gansinhoi thought so10:36
gansinho=)10:36
gansinhoI'm getting smarter10:36
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mkquist_gansinho-check the owner?10:36
tarverhows everyone10:36
Gooblakanfrustrated10:36
mkquist_gansinho-it'll come, just keep battin away10:36
Samuli^gansinho, ok. I don't think fat supports permissions like that.10:36
CarinArrer10:36
CarinArrif it's fat, you can't use permissions10:36
mkquist_gansinho-uh maybe not, didnt think about that...10:36
mkquist_gansinho-oops10:36
CarinArrwhat Samuli^ said;)10:36
gansinhomkquist_: the "hd-like-icons" dows not appear in root nautilus10:37
gansinhonot for  hdb110:37
Gooblakanisn't fat 32 known for it's instability?10:37
gansinholol10:37
Samuli^gansinho, you have to define permissions in the fstab.10:37
gansinhohow?10:37
ubuntufat= fixing all time :)10:37
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mkquist_Samuli^-cant u do the same in root-nautilus?10:37
gansinhoSamuli^: gid=4610:38
Samuli^mkquist_, not with a fat, because fat doesn't support normal unix-permissions.10:38
gansinhoSamuli^: this should alow me to acess it doesent it?10:38
gansinhouser in group 46 sth like that...10:38
mkquist_Samuli^-i c, learning all the time10:38
ubuntulol10:39
Gooblakanubuntu: how would I detect a device on the parallel port10:39
ubuntuGooblakan:  sorry no idea10:39
gansinho(my mom will chop my head off... it's 5 am here10:39
vikGooblakan: what device?10:39
gansinhohe's almost waking to work10:40
Gooblakana scanner10:40
chris449hi, does anyone know how to increase my refresh rate i'm using kde and xgl on nvidia graphics card?10:40
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gansinhoSamuli^: in fstab what should I do to give permissions10:40
gansinho?10:40
Gooblakanvik: frankly, i'm not even sure if my kernel supports it....10:40
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ubuntuchris449: where screen resoltuion option is there10:41
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ubuntui think it is system>>prefrence>>resolution10:41
Samuli^gansinho, if you want to give everyone all rights umask=000010:41
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chris449ubuntu: aah thanks, i'm used to windows10:41
Samuli^-010:41
Gooblakanvik: you there man?10:41
ubuntuyw10:42
vikGooblakan: patience. Some of us multitask. type lsmod and see if parport and lp modules are there.10:42
gansinhoSamuli^:  thanks10:42
Samuli^gansinho, umask works just like chmod, only the other way around so you don't give permissions, you take them away with umask.10:42
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gansinhoand nls10:42
gansinhodo I need to have any?10:42
vikanyone had any success with nautilus mounting ssh/sftp ?10:43
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ubuntukonqueror did10:43
dbevik, mouting ssh via nautilus?10:43
ubuntudid not chk nautils vik10:43
Gooblakanvik: sorry man, and thanks.10:44
gansinhoSamuli^:  do I need to have any nls ?10:44
vikubuntu: huh?10:44
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Gooblakanvik:  parport_pc             31812  110:44
vikdbe: places -> connect to server -> service type -> ssh10:44
Samuli^gansinho, what's nls?10:45
dbevik, Hehe.10:45
gansinhodon't know... I though you would10:45
gansinhoit's in fstab10:45
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gansinhook, neverming... I really need to sleep my mom will kill me and my tux..10:45
vikdbe: I assume it uses sftp? though it doesn't seem to work10:45
gansinhoneverming10:45
vikGooblakan: what device are you trying to connect?10:46
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Samuli^gansinho, there's lots on information available about fstab on the google, try it tomorrow :)10:46
ubuntulol10:46
ubuntu!fstab10:46
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions10:46
gansinhoSamuli^: thanks a lot! ubuntu: thanks a lot mkquist_: thanks a lot !!! really guys you were super gentle ... I can't express myself in a good way in english10:46
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Gooblakanvik: a scanner10:46
ubuntugansinho: np , good luck10:47
Gooblakanvik: an artec scanner that is supposed to be supported by Xsane10:47
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IcareZhi there10:47
vikGooblakan: Hmm... dunno really.10:47
gansinhoI come back some day... good sth for you guys.. don't know what time it is over there...10:47
IcareZi have a serious problem with apt-get10:47
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IcareZit cant download any sources !10:47
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vikGooblakan: I don't think it will autodetect magically like USB10:48
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eetfunkhow do i associate .rb files to my ruby interpreter on the command line?  i'm sick of typing ruby before every .rb file i want to execute!10:48
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nbjaymeanybody know of a program that encodes avi raw (lossless) format from (mpg/ogg)?10:48
vikGooblakan: you could always try a parallel printer to make sure the ports working (though it's unlikely that it isn't)10:48
noctihello, how do i upgrade all that needs upgrading? apt-get ? thanks10:48
Awesome-o2000nbjayme, mencoder?10:48
Gooblakanvik: any idea where to search for some help? perhaps a clever search string for google?10:48
dbenocti, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade10:49
IcareZnocti: you must edit the sources.list10:49
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ubuntunocti: yep10:49
IcareZthen make a apt-get update10:49
vikGooblakan: and make sure your parport is set to ECP mode - you gotta do this in the BIOS10:49
nbjaymeAwesome-o2000, i'll check it. thanks for the speedy reply. :)10:49
noctieetfunk, #!/usr/bin/ruby on the first line of the script10:49
Awesome-o2000np10:49
eetfunkthanks!10:49
noctidbe thanks10:49
IcareZnocti: to edit the sources.list you must type in a terminal : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:49
Awesome-o2000gedit?!?!?10:49
Awesome-o2000NANO10:49
Gooblakanvik: hmm.... I'll give that a shot, thanks , be back shortly perhaps...10:49
noctiIcareZ, im okay with the repositories, i just forgot the command, thanks anyway10:50
dbenocti, Make sure you dont have non-free repositories in source.list, it's evil software.10:50
IcareZto have a good liste, go on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:50
ubuntuemacs :)10:50
noctidbe, sometimes evil is what i want hehe10:50
brendonjtAwesome-o2000: gedit is a txt  editor10:50
ubuntunocti: apt-get install evil haha10:50
Awesome-o2000I know what it is10:50
IcareZlol10:50
IcareZok10:50
IcareZI have some problem with apt-get10:50
noctithanks guys10:50
brendonjtAwesome-o2000: opps ok  cos u  went ????10:51
dbenocti, That gives power to Corporations and prohit our community to work with it.10:51
eetfunknocti: it doesnt work.  says command not found10:51
IcareZit cant download anything10:51
mkquist_gansinho-it should be working now yes?10:51
Awesome-o2000brendonjt,  here, smoke this, itll make you feel better :D10:51
IcareZit cant download list of packages10:51
IcareZwhen i do a update10:51
ubuntuIcareZ:  any error message?10:51
IcareZbut i cant view these list with firefox10:51
brendonjtAwesome-o2000: lol  was just trying to help10:51
mkquist_oops, nm10:51
dbenocti, The free software movement is imporant for all of us.10:51
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Awesome-o2000brendonjt, its all good, im just trying to share the love :)10:52
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IcareZubuntu: it show : Ign http://archive.ubuntu.......10:52
mkquist_ubuntu-did he get the fat32 worked out?10:52
IcareZthen10:52
ubuntumkquist_: yep10:52
brendonjtAwesome-o2000: cool, just had a streefull day with a clown on here today10:52
IcareZubuntu: Err http://......, cant connect10:52
mkquist_good deal10:52
vikhas anyone had any success using Place->Connect to Server in ubuntu?10:52
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noctieetfunk, chmod +x script.rb10:53
IcareZthen unable to download the file ....10:53
Awesome-o2000:( brendonjt I dont understand people trolling linux chat channels - the only times Ive ever done anything ban-worthy was in response to psychopathic ops in #fedora10:53
IcareZbut i can download the same file with firefox10:53
ubuntuvik:  i had once10:53
ubuntui connected to ftp server10:53
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ubuntuicon came on my desktop after that10:53
vikubuntu: I've never had any success with samba or sftp.10:54
fallingdutchis there a way to extract the master-key of a luks encrypted partition?10:54
vikso much for 'just works'10:54
noctieetfunk, and when you execute the script, do a "./script.rb" instead of "script.rb" because most probably the script is not in your path10:54
IcareZhelp :p10:54
ubuntuvik: i did not chk samba, but ftp yes10:54
eetfunknocti:  oh!  thats why10:54
brendonjtAwesome-o2000: lol  there was this guy  asking for help today and wasn't giving the whole story  took over an hour to get what he was wanting i gave up10:54
vikubuntu: need sftp10:54
ubuntuvik:  what error u get?10:54
Awesome-o2000brendonjt, those people support vista development lol10:54
IcareZHow to disable ipv6 ???10:54
fallingdutchbtw: morning all10:55
ubuntuIcareZ: any firewalls?10:55
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brendonjtAwesome-o2000: lol10:55
Awesome-o2000brendonjt, the worst insult i could think of at the moment :D10:56
vikubuntu: spends a long time on it, then "Nautilus cannot display sftp://xxxxx Please select another viewer and try again."10:56
ubuntuvik: kinda of stupid question, but sshd is running right/10:56
IcareZubuntu: No i have tried to disable all firewall, but i have the same error10:56
brendonjtAwesome-o2000: true10:57
ubuntuIcareZ: r u runing apt-get as normal user or root?10:57
vikubuntu: hold on; just got it working to one server; gonna restart the other one and see10:57
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Awesome-o2000ew , felching10:57
ubuntuk :D10:57
IcareZubuntu: i type sudo apt-get update so i am a root user by the way10:57
ubuntuIcareZ: true10:57
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noctiwhat wm/de do you guys use/prefer10:59
ubuntuIcareZ: try -f10:59
fallingdutchnocti, i prefer fluxbox11:00
ubuntusudo apt-get update -f11:00
vikubuntu: damn; it just worked11:00
noctifallingdutch, me too11:00
ubuntulol11:00
ubuntugood for ya11:00
ubuntu;)11:00
noctifallingdutch, can i see a screen shot? thanks11:00
IcareZubuntu: like sudo apt-get -f update ?11:00
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ubuntuIcareZ: yes11:00
IcareZok11:00
maltaethironyo yo guys, ive a general question11:01
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Chanduhi11:01
ChanduMay I know how "dpkg-reconfigure" works11:01
maltaethironwhen i "manually announce" something in a torrent client, does that like, summon more people to be seeders and leechers?11:01
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mkquist_boy theres an off topic...hehe11:02
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ubuntumkquist_: heh11:02
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IcareZubuntu: i have the same error11:02
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IcareZit connect to the packages server with an Ign http://archive......11:02
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IcareZbut it show a Err http://archive....11:03
ubuntuIcareZ: can u type full message to pastebin?11:03
IcareZcant connect11:03
redbladesHi all, I have a major issue.11:03
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YoussefAssadgood morning folks11:03
redbladesI may have just deleted a whole heap of my files.11:03
redbladesIs there any way to recover these on linux?11:03
mkquist_wow11:03
ubuntuIcareZ: u did not play with any seetings did ya?11:03
YoussefAssadcan anyone recommend a good and balanced graphical utility for iptables configuration?11:03
ubuntusettings*11:03
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IcareZubuntu: you have the full message here : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=5885511:04
ubuntuYoussefAssad: it was something like fwbuild , synaptic has it chk there11:04
redbladesAnyone?11:04
ubuntuIcareZ: chking11:04
IcareZubuntu: no, i have installed ubuntu on an external drive yesterday, and it never work11:04
redbladesI really need these files... : (11:04
IcareZubuntu: chking ?11:04
ubuntuyes opening link11:04
ubuntuhold on11:04
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IcareZubuntu: sorry i dont understand11:05
YoussefAssadubuntu: I had a look at that and I personally think it's pretty nifty. But I have partners (work) for whom I'd like to find something a little more newbie-friendly while not being too moronic (i.e. not sacrificing too much power)11:05
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Phreakyshello11:05
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Phreakysdoes someone know a trick to enter textmode within a session?11:05
MadpilotYoussefAssad, Firestarter?11:05
YoussefAssadubuntu: I'm in the process of converting northern african and middle eastern microfinance institutions over to open source! :)11:05
Phreakysi cant enter any key :(11:05
YoussefAssadMadpilot: Hm, okie, let me look at that. Thanks!11:06
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ubuntuit is in someother language :O11:06
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YoussefAssadubuntu: they can all work in english, no worries there :)11:06
YoussefAssadubuntu: (though I might be able to bully them into doing arabic localizations, come to think of it...)11:06
Nozyhi hey11:07
omerHello11:07
mkquist_redblades-http://recover.sourceforge.net/linux/11:07
Nozyhi guys11:07
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ubuntuYoussefAssad:  i was talking to IcareZ11:07
YoussefAssadPhreakys: text mode as in console?11:07
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Phreakysyes11:07
YoussefAssadubuntu: oh. Apologies11:07
wifiworksdisasm: hey you round disasm11:07
omerHow do I install kdevelop? it's not in my resporties11:07
Phreakysi cant enter any key within my xgl session :(11:07
YoussefAssadPhreakys: Try Ctrl-Alt-F111:07
Madpilot!info kdevelop11:07
Phreakyswas hoping to get some debugginginfo, but cant enter a key11:07
ubotuPackage kdevelop does not exist in any distro I know11:07
Phreakysok11:07
Phreakystnx11:07
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ubuntuIcareZ: sorry no idea11:07
IcareZubuntu: i dont understant if you tell me to open the link or if you tell me that you open the link :p11:07
IcareZubuntu: ok thx11:08
Nozyguys not sure why but now when i log off I can see a power off11:08
omerSo how to install it? From kde site?11:08
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IcareZubuntu: do you know how to disable ipv6 ?11:08
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ubuntuIcareZ: nope11:08
cynicalIcareZ: ipv6 doesnt do anything bad for your system, why would you want to disable it?11:08
ubuntuomer:  trying to install kdevolp?11:09
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IcareZcynical: a other guy have the same problem than me, then he solve it by disable ipv611:09
cynicalIcareZ: whats your problem?11:09
omerYes11:09
irawan<IcareZ> search in google11:09
ubuntuomer:  try this11:09
redbladesmkquist_, I'm on ext3!11:09
IcareZcynical: apt-get cant connect on package server11:10
wifiworkscan any one tell me why i get DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 411:10
irawan<IcareZ> there's somewhere in the ubuntu forum11:10
wifiworksfor ever11:10
wifiworkswell the 4 changes11:10
wifiworkshehe11:10
ubuntuomer:  type sudo apt-get install kdevelop311:10
omerO.K.11:10
wifiworksi recompled the module from source and got it working for a  while11:10
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IcareZirawan: my problem is special because i can connect to the server with firefow11:10
wifiworksbut then i started doing that11:10
wifiworksno dhcp :(11:11
cynicalIcareZ: well if it'll help, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases11:11
IcareZirawan: but not with apt-get or synaptic11:11
IcareZcynical: and then ?11:11
omerUbuntu, it doesn't work11:11
cynicalIcareZ: then add alias net-pf-10 ipv6 off alias net-pf-10 off alias ipv6 off11:11
ubuntuomer: why?11:11
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ubuntuit works here11:11
omerCouldn't find package kdevelop311:11
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cynicalIcareZ: save and reboot to see if it helps11:11
ubuntuwhich ver?11:11
ubuntu6?11:12
IcareZcynical: ok11:12
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NegimaWow I just upgraded to dapper, what a smooth install, and so many cool features11:12
omerUbuntu 6.06, from disk11:12
omerjust now installed11:12
ubuntusame i have11:12
IcareZirawan: have you the link ?11:12
ubuntuit works here11:12
omerWeird11:12
YoussefAssadNegima: hear hear. First distro to do suspend, hibernate, and also read the battery status correctly for me.11:12
mkquist_redblades-might wanna check out knoppix std11:13
ubuntuYoussefAssad: yes ubuntu is kool11:13
ubuntuhehe11:13
IcareZcynical: must i add a # in front of : alias net-pf-10 ipv611:13
irawan<IcareZ> wait, I'm on slow link11:13
IcareZirawan: ok thx11:13
NegimaYoussefAssad: Yep, on a laptop here so loving the lowered brightness option, dont know if its new but seems that way11:13
irawan<IcareZ> you can follow what cynical said, just the same thing11:13
cynicalIcareZ: you dont have to11:13
IcareZirawan: ok thx11:13
IcareZcynical: ok11:13
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NegimaWhere can i find out how to enable the cool graphics featured on dapper? xgl and suff, is there a howto?11:14
ubuntu!xgl11:14
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:14
omerAlso kwifi isn't in the resporties11:15
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irawan<IcareZ> or you can try this one http://www.ossgeeks.co.uk/?p=2011:15
Negimaubuntu: thanks11:15
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ubuntuyw11:16
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ubuntuomer: i think it is kwifimager something11:16
redbladesmkquist_, what good will that do?11:16
mkquist_redblades-http://www.surfpack.com/software/recoverdatafromlinux/11:17
mkquist_nm on knoppix, dont think itll help on ext311:17
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ubuntumkquist_: ver 5 ur on?11:17
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YoussefAssadwifi-manager11:18
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omerthere is nothing with wifi in the name11:18
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ubuntuomer hold on11:18
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YoussefAssadthe gnome wifi applet is far superior to the KDE tool, incidentally11:18
mkquist_redblades-sry nm on that too11:18
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ubuntuomer:  name is kwifimanager11:18
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_lupineand rutilt is far superior to them all ;)11:18
IcareZcynical: im back11:18
ubuntutry apt-get install kwifimanager11:18
_lupine(well, it will be once it's finished...)11:18
IcareZcynical: but i have the same error11:19
omerNothing11:19
Gyuszkre11:19
YoussefAssad_lupine: I'll look at that...11:19
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_lupinenot in the repos... you'll have to make your own11:19
cynicalIcareZ: yeah it doesnt have anything to do with ipv611:19
ubuntuman i just downloaded it11:19
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cynicalIcareZ: whats the error again, you cant connect to any repos?11:19
IcareZcynical: yes11:19
ubuntuupdated from 5 to 6 a couple of hrs back omer :o11:19
YoussefAssad_lupine: yes, I noticed :)11:19
cynicalIcareZ: and yet you are on irc and can ping servers fine, hmm. Whats the error say?11:19
_lupinethat said, it works like a charm ('though it's focused on ralink cards). Easy to make and install, too.11:19
IcareZcynical: i have change the dns ip, but after a reboot ubuntu dont remember anything11:19
omerI have it from disk11:19
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omerI didn't change the res. or anything else11:20
_lupineOr grab a .deb from http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386 (ralink-config)11:20
ubuntuomer let me get the link11:20
cynicalIcareZ: why did you change the dns? Is your isp's not good for you?11:20
_lupinenow I must get to work11:20
ubuntuu know how to wget?11:20
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IcareZits not the dns of my isp's11:20
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YoussefAssad_lupine: thanks for the recommendation. Merry work! :)11:21
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IcareZcynical: the apt-get update answer is here : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=5885511:21
IcareZcynical: some part in french, sorry11:21
SirKillalotdoes anybody know where to get ekiga's sourcecode from?11:21
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ubuntuwell gtg11:22
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ubuntulater guys11:22
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ubuntutc all11:22
YoussefAssadbye ubuntu11:22
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IcareZubuntu: by11:22
ubuntuIcareZ: good luck11:22
ubuntuYoussefAssad: tc11:22
IcareZubuntu: thx11:22
wes_icegod where the fuck are you11:22
omerby11:23
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cafuegoMind your language please.11:23
redondo81can you suggest me a partition editor for kde?Thanks11:23
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mkquist_ubuntu- im sry ver 5?11:24
IcareZcynical: have you the link ?11:24
fallingdutchhow can i extract the master-key of a luks encrypted device?11:24
cynicalIcareZ: do you have a router?11:24
YoussefAssadPhreakys: any luck?11:25
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IcareZcynical: yes11:25
IcareZcynical: a linksys one11:25
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cynicalIcareZ: change the dns info to the ip of the router11:25
redondo81Soryym I have problems with the connection....can you suggest me a partition editor for kde?11:26
cynicalIcareZ: it should then get it from your isp11:26
IcareZcynical: i have already tried it11:26
IcareZcynical: ok11:26
cynicalIcareZ: do you know your isp's dns servers?11:26
IcareZcynical: yes11:26
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IcareZcynical: must i reboot to apply dns change ?11:26
cynicalIcareZ: Yes11:26
ramviHi, could you help me find a php-editor? I need the ability to search for text through a whole dir or project...11:26
IcareZcynical: ok11:26
tuxtuxciao11:26
redondo81no one know a good partition editor for kde?11:27
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brendonjtredondo81: sorry i  use gnome11:28
redondo81no problem:)11:28
|brad|qtparted?11:28
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IcareZcynical: re11:31
IcareZcynical: with the router dns, i have the same problem11:32
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IcareZcynical: but i can go on internet11:32
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crackSqu1rrelso in the different window managers, they have different code frameworks and APIs, so that is why you need a different app under KDE than under Gnome in some cases, depending on the applications used libaries/APIs?11:32
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cynicalIcareZ: well I'm sorry but I dont know what else to do. For now you can still get packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com11:34
IcareZok thx11:34
IcareZcynical: can i reinstall ubuntu ?11:34
cynicalIcareZ: yes I would try that11:35
IcareZcynical: does change anything11:35
Andy-cynical: I got it to work :D11:35
IcareZcynical: ok thx a lot for your help11:35
cynicalIcareZ: np11:35
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cynicalAndy-: what did you do?11:35
Andy-cynical: it was my router, i turned off the WEP password and it worked...11:35
Andy-cynical: im going to look into it11:36
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Andy-cynical: just one more question = how do i install a .rpm file?11:36
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YoussefAssadapt-get install alien && man alien11:36
YoussefAssadAndy-: that was for you! :)11:36
cynicalAndy-: I wouldnt do that, why do you need to?11:36
cynicalAndy: alien converts rpms to deb files11:37
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Andy-installing limewire11:37
Andy-hold on11:37
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cynicalAndy-: ah, check this out instead, http://www.frostwire.com/11:37
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Andy-YoussefAssad: if the file is in my home directory LimeWireLinux.rpm what do i type?11:37
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YoussefAssadAndy-: man alien11:38
cynicalAndy-: frostwire is a free fork of limewire, you would be better off installing it imho11:38
Andy-cynical: u sure?11:38
cynicalAndy-: yes, there is no difference except one is free and opensource11:38
cynicalAndy-: they use the same network11:38
Andy-ok 1 more question = how do i install winrar? i got the winrar linux file its a .tar.gz and i extracted it11:39
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muhammadany sudo apt-get install rar11:39
lab_monkeyanyone know wat packages are nescessary to compile opengl programs ?11:39
itsmegbAndy: archive manager can handle .rar files11:39
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muhammad<itsmegb> it cant *_*11:40
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itsmegbmuhammad: does for me, well opens them atleast11:40
_DvP_Hello all11:40
muhammadhmm11:40
muhammadmay be !11:40
Andy-muhammad: sudo apt-get install rar didn't work11:40
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YoussefAssadmuhammad: archive manager probably checks to see if there's a working rar available11:41
muhammadAndy- u activate the repositories ?11:41
geraldis there anyway I can stop the sound jittering when my harddrive is loading something11:41
Andy-muhammad: huh?11:41
YoussefAssadAndy-: rar is in an external repo AFAIK.11:41
irawanmuhammad: I used automatix to install rar11:41
geraldespecially in firefox, this problem doesn't seem to hapen when I apt-get install something11:41
YoussefAssadAndy-: you need to add another source11:41
Andy-YoussefAssad: what u mean another? i just downloaded the tar.gz off their site...11:41
irawan<YoussefAssad> you're right11:41
muhammad!tell andy about repositories11:41
irawanAndy; see ubuntuguide.org11:42
muhammadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories/Ubuntu?action=show&redirect=AddingRepositoriesHowto11:43
irawanAndy: for automatix and adding repos11:43
muhammad<Andy-> follow that link11:43
YoussefAssadAndy-: It's considered good form to always use the package manager. You can use the tarball, but it's cleaner to use the package management system because it handles dependencies, uninatall, etc. To get rar, you just need to add a new repo and then you'll find it in the installable packages. irawan mentioned automztix, that's a great way to get rar as well as a lot of other missing goodies11:43
Andy-iratsu: can u just tell me what to do please all the files are extracted11:43
YoussefAssad!tell YoussefAssad about automatix11:43
Andy-ok and what do i do in the pm (packetmanager)11:43
YoussefAssad!tell Andy- about automatix11:44
irawanAndy: please check those links first11:44
YoussefAssad!tell YoussefAssad about life11:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:44
muhammadhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu try this link Andy11:44
muhammadand u will know abt what we are sayin !11:44
DeKohey all11:45
irawan<DeKo> hey11:45
itsmegbthe package was unrar by the way, i think11:45
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muhammaditsmegb> there are two packages could deal with .rar files11:46
muhammadrar and unrar ;)11:46
YoussefAssaditsmegb: I see both package names in my sources11:46
itsmegbahhh11:46
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DeKoDoes somebody have an All-In-Wonder card?11:46
itsmegbi only see unrar and unrar-free11:46
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YoussefAssadcrap, I forgot where I parked my car11:47
muhammaditsmegb now u saw rar , unrar and unrar-free :P11:47
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itsmegbyep, now i see rar, haven't got my brain switched on this morning :P11:47
muhammadheh11:47
cwilluI've got this interesting glitch on my main desktop, where it hangs whenever I connect to irc;  can no longer ping or ssh to it, and the mouse is just frozen.  Any ideas?11:47
itsmegb^^ how are you on irc now then?11:48
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cwilludifferent machine11:48
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cwillu(re:  the machine that I'm trying to ping and ssh from)11:48
DonLemmiHi, is there a way to install ubuntu via network? Like with the debian businesscard-image?11:48
muhammadDonLemmi u can try sudo nano -w /etc/network/interfaces11:49
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vik!acroread11:49
ubotuacroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 22263 kB, installed size 53192 kB (Only available for i386)11:49
DonLemmimuhammad, i dont understand? I want to install a fresh system via network11:50
muhammad!ping me11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
irawan<DonLemmi> there's a guide for warty I somewhere, from there you can upgrade to dapper11:50
redbladesHi, I'm on ext3, and I've lost a lot of files.11:50
vik!mozilla-acroread11:50
ubotumozilla-acroread: Adobe Acrobat(R) Reader plugin for mozilla / konqueror. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 448 kB, installed size 1268 kB (Only available for i386)11:50
redbladesIs there any way to recover them?11:50
muhammad<DonLemmi> aha sorry didnt get ya correctly11:50
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cwilluredblades, lost in what sense?11:50
vikdoes mozilla-acroread plugin work for anyone?11:50
redbladesI installed gddrescue, but I don't know how to run it!11:50
vikacroread works, and plugin works in mozilla, but not in firefox11:51
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redbladescwillu, I was moving some folders, and somehow I copied across just folders and lost all content.11:51
cwilluredblades, and the originals were wiped?  does anything extra show up if you check from a root shell (sudo -s)?11:52
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redbladesUhh... not that I can see... I use what does the -s do?11:52
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redblades(ignore "i use"11:52
cwillugives you a root prompt that you can change directories and ls in11:53
cwilluit's just a wild shot in the dark though11:53
redbladesNope... nothing more...11:53
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KenSentMeI just tried to install vmware-player on Dapper Drake, but i get this error. Does anyone know how to solve it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2203311:54
redbladescwillu, ?11:54
geraldwhat package do I install for obtaining the X11 libraries?11:54
cwilluredblades:  looking up the gddrescue docs11:55
muhammadhmm time for prayin in egypt laterz guys :>>>11:55
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redbladesKenSentMe, ich keine sprechen sie deutche... (sorry qabout spelling)11:55
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redbladesUhhh...11:55
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KenSentMeredblades: that's not german but dutch and you don't need to. The error is in english11:55
redbladesSorry, that's11:56
redbladesKenSentMe, yeah, I just realised after a second...11:56
KenSentMeredblades: lol11:56
redblades(about it being dutch)11:56
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Andy-can som1 help me install Wine?11:56
geraldwhat package do I install to get the X11 development packages11:56
cwilluredblades, don't think gddrescue is the tool for this job, unless you got ioerrors while copying/moving, and the originals still show up but are merely corrupted11:56
redbladesAghh11:57
Andy-can som1 help me with wine?11:57
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redbladesAndy-, sudo apt-get install wine11:57
redbladescwillu, any other ideas?11:57
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cwilluI'm looking I'm looking :p11:58
appIs there a guide for "supporting Ubuntu in a corporate Microsoft environment", or similar?11:58
Madpilotapp, not currently - want to write one for us? ;)11:58
cwilluapp, anything in particular you're having trouble with?11:58
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cwillu(still looking redblades )11:59
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redbladescwillu, sorry, anxious, thanks,11:59
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cwilluredblades, hmm, this isn't looking promising actually11:59
itsmegbAndy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=howto+wine12:00
appWell, we have images made, and some nerds using Ubuntu successfully. Personally I have troubles in even booting it, because I can not touch my MBR and I fail to laod my Ubuntu partition after booting from a GRUB boot CD...12:00
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redbladescwillu, Wahhh!!!12:00
cwilluredblades, if my reading of this is correct, ext3 deals with deleting files by actually zero'ing out the contents12:01
cwilluso, if they actually got deleted/unlinked, then they're actually gone, unless something made a copy somewhere12:01
cwilluredblades, how exactly were you moving them?12:01
redbladescwillu, is it any help if I haven't shut down since it happened?12:01
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cwilluredblades, depends on the data and usage12:02
redbladescwillu, mv /var/www/* /home/redblades/Desktop12:02
appIs it possible to boot the live CD, install on hard disk partition X without touching the MBR or Windows partitions and then use the live CD to boot the new Ubuntu partition from hard disk?12:02
redbladescwillu, mv /var/www/* /home/redblades/Desktop/temp12:02
redbladesSorry, the second one12:02
cwillu?12:02
cwilluk12:02
cwilludid temp already exist?12:02
boomslapHello.  This might be the wrong place for this.  I am trying to create a partition in Partition Magic (Windows) to install ubuntu.  I have 23 gigs unused, but the max space allowable for a new partition is 4 gigs.  What can I do?  (I actually did try to create a partition just from the ubuntu install also and that couldn't get the space either).12:02
cwillu(and no other flags on the command?)12:02
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martinzgood download manager for ubuntu?12:03
cwilluboomslap, the ubuntu installer should be able to handle resizing the partitions as neccessary12:03
cwilluand or making new ones of whatever size12:03
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geraldow do I open a program in terminal without making that terminal dependant on that program12:03
cwilluoops, guess you said you tried that :/12:03
geraldgerald so i can still use tha tterminal12:03
appOr alternatively, does anyone know if you can make my Pointsec encrypted Windows partition boot, if I install GRUB on MBR. Pointsec does not officially support that.12:03
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boomslapYeah.  I tried the default install option as well as the continuous space option.12:04
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cwilluredblades, still there?12:04
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cwilluredblades, the second one was the exact command line, no extra flags or anything?12:04
redbladesYeah, I found an article on Linux.com12:04
redbladescwillu, yes12:04
cwilludid the temp folder already exist?12:04
appboomslap. I don't understand why Partition Magic would not use the 23 G space. Can you double check? Is it that you clearly see in Magic a continuous empty 23 G sequence in the ned of the disk, or what?12:05
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boomslapYes.  There is a continous white patch of empty space at the end of my C:\12:06
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appAnd what's the phrasing, when it refuses to use it all?12:06
boomslapJust when I go to create a new partition, maximum size is listed as 4612 mb, and I cannot go over that at all.12:07
redbladescwillu, I had just created it...12:07
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kaydeI need help with bluetooth!!!!! i cant get it working!!!12:08
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kaydewhy is it so quiet?12:09
Awesome-o2000boomslap, sounds like you're using fat1612:09
kayde?12:09
boomslapIt is NTFS.12:09
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cwillu we're all thinking12:09
KenSentMe!bluetooth12:09
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup12:09
kaydethanks12:09
cwilluboomslap, not the partition that's already there12:09
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cwilluAwesome-o2000, boomslap, doesn't really explain why ubuntu is having trouble though12:10
boomslapWell, it is labeled as NTFS in Partition Magic.  The C:\ drive, that is.12:10
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cwilluboomslap, unpartitioned space doesn't have a type12:10
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boomslapI am trying to create a new partition from partitioned space.12:10
cwilluboomslap, you can have ntfs and ext3 and reiserfs all on the same drive12:10
cwillu?12:11
boomslapThe entire drive is currently in one NTFS partition.12:11
cwilluso you don't have empty space yet12:11
boomslapRight.12:11
boomslapNothing is unallocated.12:11
Awesome-o2000boomslap, looks like you're going to need to resize your ntfs partition12:11
cwilluand it'll only let you resize it by 4 gigs?12:11
boomslapCreate a new one from it.12:11
boomslapIf I resize it smaller, do I risk losing any files?12:11
cwilluquite12:11
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appboomslap, you probably have 4 G empty un-partioned space somewhere.12:12
Awesome-o2000boomslap, my recommendation is to defrag then resize12:12
cwilluyou're moving data around, and if the machine crashes (power goes out, etc) while it does that, you're probably hosed12:12
appThat's all you can do before to resize the existing partition12:12
cwillubut you'll need to resize it to make a new partition...12:12
boomslapAh.12:12
geraldis there a way I can ls hidden files only?12:12
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cwilluit's technically possible to make a partition out of a file in ntfs, but you'd be running experimental stuff on top of other experimental stuff, etc12:13
boomslapSo barring a crash, power out... resizing won't impact any data currently on the partition as long is I make it greater than what I have?12:13
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cwilluboomslap, you can resize it down to the amount of data you have in the partition (i.e., if you have an 80gig partition with 20gig of data, you should be able to resize it down to around 20gigs, freeing up 60 to make a new partition (although you really want to leave some free space on the old partition))12:14
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kaydeKenSentMe: erm...its too complex for me :(12:14
boomslapOkay. :)12:14
appResizing with Partition Magic is quite safe, but let's say you have a 1/1000 chance to screw up, if you don't defraqment first, and 1/10000 if you do.12:14
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boomslapGot it.  Thanks for the help.12:14
Awesome-o2000you will defragment, thats an order mister.12:14
cwilluboomslap, just don't do it with stuff you absolutely can't afford to lose, because it's always a possibility12:14
t-thingWhere can I find multimedia output selector? I remember seeing it in previous versions of gnome but now I can't find it.12:14
cwilluredblades, any luck?12:15
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appboomslap, the biggest risk is if your hard diks is old or bad, and it suddenly goes bad with all this new busy activity...12:16
kaydeI need help with bluetooth...I am a total linux newb..!12:16
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redbladesUhh, I it looks promising...12:16
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mikeconceptshow do i get a channel list?12:17
HFallcan anybody help me?12:17
ranphahi question, i want to know something about filesystem.. No not which is better and faster for boot. No i want to know which filesystem is best for datastorage.It has to be safe, stable less errors and a undelete function.. what do you think?12:17
gerald#12:18
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e-typere all12:18
ranphamikeconcepts   typ /list12:18
kaydeman!12:18
mikeconceptsranpha: mant thanks12:18
mikeconceptsmany12:18
Samuli^ranpha, well undelete rules out ext3 which would have been otherwise me thinks.12:18
Samuli^+fine12:19
cwilluisn't there some kernel option that layers undelete over top now?12:19
cwilluranpha, what style of undelete do you need?12:19
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appHas anyone any experience with the Canonical basic 250 dollar/year support package? Can they provide detailed technical help for experts, or is it only for newbies?12:19
kaydehow long do i have to wait for help, or is there an easier way12:20
ranphaWell I want a filesystem which is as stable as a nuclair shelter....i thinking about ext3 ,ext2 and fat12:20
kaydeany forums?12:20
Samuli^ranpha, rule out fat for starters.12:20
appIs it any better than self-help here, in the Wiki and in Google.12:20
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infidel!mp312:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:21
ranphaSamuli......i mean fat32 off course :=)....12:21
cwilluranpha, what type of undelete though?  recyclebin style, full archival, full-archival with branching?12:21
Samuli^ranpha, yes, forget about it :)12:21
Lynoureranpha: even hardware is not that stable, so remember offsite backups12:21
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emil_Hello12:21
ranphaCwillu no recycle (need every bit i can get my hands on, so full archival...???12:21
emil_I downloaded a file12:21
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emil_But Totem says: " You do not have a decoder to handle this file"12:22
emil_What should i install12:22
emil_other films i could play12:22
Madpilotkayde, ubuntuforums.org - but try repeating your question about 5-10 minutes after you first ask it; people come and go and miss questions they can answer12:22
cynicalranpha: also rule out ext2, which is just ext3 without journaling12:22
appranpha and others, I would just be happy with Windows-stype recycling help, but file system level, nothing like desktop level or alias rm=saferm level.12:22
kaydeI cant get my damn USB bluetooth adapter to work any help??!12:22
t-thingWhere can I find the multimedia systems selector in Gnome?12:23
Samuli^cwillu, if you really need safe storage, maybe you should use raid. Although I don't know how well software raid works in linux and hardware is costy,12:23
cwilluranpha, so you need historical?  what granularity?  (i.e., if a program writes something to a file every 10 seconds for a year, do you need every version?)12:23
Madpilot!bluetooth12:23
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup12:23
Madpilotkayde, ^^^12:23
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cwilluSamuli^, raid works fine, but that's not what ranpha's asking about12:23
cwilluor at least, not everything that he's asking about12:23
ranphaCwillu it's for photo/images storage and where talking about 900 gig on photos12:23
kaydeMadpilot: nope...i cant understand that stuff12:23
kaydeMadpilot: its mumbojumbo for me12:24
redbladescwillu, I've started the program, but I'm confused about which part to scan... it has Whole Disk (but it says empty, so that's not it)12:24
cwilluranpha, would something like a write-once file system be appropriate then?12:24
Madpilotkayde, then ask specific questions about the parts of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup that you don't understand...12:24
Samuli^cwillu, I know, I was just trying add some options for him because hardware is prone to break up.12:24
appAs far as I understand there is no usable simple "undelete" for ext2, ext3 or reiserfs?12:24
emil_Totem says, you do not have decoder to handle this file, what should i install, it's a wmv file12:24
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ranphacwillu write-once???12:24
cynicalemil_: install w32codecs12:25
cwilluranpha, files are readonly once written12:25
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Samuli^app, I think there is for atleast ext2.12:25
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appI have tried the ext2/3 undelete tools with very moderate success.12:25
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kaydeMadpilot: I intend on fixing it tonight, not in 3 weeks...;-)12:25
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ranphano cwillu...i need to make changes to it....like putting in more photo's and deleting some dupilcates12:25
cwilluredblades, what app? gddrescue still?12:25
Namelesssomeone could help me ? http://beer.altervista.org/amsn-cvs_.png12:25
Madpilotkayde, then you're going to have to ask lots of good questions in here tonight...12:25
cwilluranpha, but the duplicates would have to be undeletable for all time?12:26
redbladesUhh.. no. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2203312:26
redbladesOoops12:26
ranphaCwillu no12:26
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emil_cynical: how do i install w32codecs12:26
redbladescwillu, http://servers.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/21/1558230&from=rss12:26
cwilluranpha, then it'd be easier to have a file system that's write once, and then another file system that just links to iot12:26
Lostyyo12:26
RMorris84what codecs do i need to watch .mov files?12:26
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rooteremil_: apt-get install w42codecs12:26
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RMorris84sudo apt-get install w32codecs12:26
Madpilotneed sleep - good night all12:26
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ranphaCwillu i want to keep things a simpele as possible12:27
mikeconceptshow do I join the channel for xgl questions?12:27
william_hi12:27
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rooterMadpilot: good night? what time is it?12:27
cynicalemil_: here is a link to the package, http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb12:27
emil_cynical: i allready had w32codecs, what should i do12:27
william_any ladies wanna chat12:27
kaydewilliam_: LOOL12:27
Lynoureheh12:27
Lostyyeah im a lady12:27
cynicalemil_: oh is the file drm'd?12:27
william_hey losty12:27
RMorris84william_ ur looking for the general banter room lol12:27
valehruhaha12:28
cwilluranpha, do you need to be able to recover from somebody blanking out a photo?12:28
Lostyi want you to show me your sexy skills at running broadcom12:28
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emil_i don't know, but i want to play it :P12:28
cynicalemil_: IE is it porn? Because if its drm'd you wont be able to play it in linux12:28
Lostylol12:28
william_what is trhat12:28
william_that12:28
Lostywireless sorry mate12:28
valehruthats a first..12:28
mikeconceptshow do I join the channel for xgl questions?12:28
emil_cynical: it's a capture from TV, and i want to play it because i missed it i had vacation12:28
cwillu /join #ubuntu-xgl12:28
william_i want some pusssy\12:28
mikeconceptsthx12:28
|brad|Losty: broadcom 44xx?12:28
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|brad|rofl12:28
kaydehoo-boy12:29
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ranphaCwillu no....just want a stable filesystem..forget about undelete...i have backups for that....(reminder not to try delete both backups ...did that yesterday)12:29
RMorris84lol12:29
Namelesshttp://beer.altervista.org/amsn-cvs_.png12:29
cynicalemil_: why is it in wmv format?12:29
Namelesshelp12:29
Nameless:E12:29
kaydeyou will get plenty of it in a chat room! :P lol12:29
RMorris84cynical: lol12:29
Lostyhahh12:29
Lostylolol12:29
emil_cynical: i don't know, but they only have wmv12:29
william_are ther any ladies that want there pussy ate12:29
kaydein a sunny day with flying pigs12:29
cwilluranpha, I'd recommend sticking with ext3 then, it's the most stable file system on linux12:29
Lynoure!language12:29
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:29
Lostyyeah i reckon12:29
mifhi12:29
kaydeyup12:30
jorikemil_: did you try playing it with xine ? xine worked perfectly for me after i installed the W32codecs12:30
cynicalemil_: well you should be able to play it with w32codecs, if not try sudo apt-get install vlc and see if it can play it12:30
mifIs there anybody from PL?12:30
ranphacwillu okay thanks12:30
cynicalmif: :o12:30
cynicalmif: cant read it but I can speak it!12:30
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|brad|anyone have sata2 working in ubuntu?12:30
cynicalmif: polish american :\12:30
kaydei need help with bluetooth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:30
cynical|brad|: my drive is sata2 and it works in ubuntu12:31
appcwillu, ranpha, I guess I tried "undelete" and "recover" to undelete files in ext2, to no success. The gddrescue you mentioned seems to be something else, not undelete.12:31
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mifcynical, ok thx :)12:31
william_hello any ladies wanna chat] 12:31
purfier|brad|: yes12:31
cynicalmif: lol np12:31
|brad|oh really?12:31
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purfier|brad|: no problem at all12:31
cynical|brad|: yes indeed12:31
|brad|onboard chipsets?12:31
cwilluapp, yes, gddrescue is corruption recovery12:31
purfierplug and play12:31
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purfier:)12:31
purfieryes, onboard12:31
cynical|brad|: yep onboard12:31
kayde;-)12:31
|brad|bah :)12:31
cwilluapp:  redblades had mentioned a url12:31
purfierhehe12:31
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ranphaApp , cwillu, what i find is strange is there really no program to recover lost files on ext2 ext3??? not even for data experts??12:31
cynical|brad|: mine is of the jmicron variety *sigh*12:31
|brad|i have a promise tx2300 sata2 card12:31
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rapiermy xubuntu server stopped responding on the network and i couldn't get a signal from the monitor and had to hard boot - how do i found out what went wrong?12:32
purfierhttp://home.dreamtec.org/log12:32
cwilluranpha, you can go poking through the contents with any disk editor12:32
redbladesranpha, there is - just that it's not as easy as Winpoo.12:32
Namelesscould someome help me ?12:32
Nameless-_12:32
ranpharedblades......and??? youre gonna tell how?12:33
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cynical|brad|: read this, http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=3253&cat=30312:33
cwilluranpha, ext3 just tries really really hard not to lose stuff in the first place (/lost+found generally contains stuff it finds after a hard reboot, generally stuff that was unlinked, but the metadata wasn't updated yet)12:33
|brad|cynical purfier, i  installed kernel 2.6.17.11 which said had support for my card... still doesnt work... have any ideas for me?12:33
redbladesLook at the URL above (by me)12:33
redbladesranpha, http://servers.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/21/1558230&from=rss12:34
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cwilluranpha, lost-as-in-deleted-files really shouldn't be easily recoverable, and ext3 is robust to pretty much everything else that would cause it, beyond hardware failure12:34
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rapieranyone? how do i find out why my server crashed?12:34
e-typerapier: by checking the logs12:35
Awesome-o2000ranpha, is it THAT hard to simply pay attention to what you're doing?12:35
rapierwhich logs?12:35
ranphaThanks cwillu....btw something complety different...is it possibel to have both a wired network and a wireless netwrok?12:35
cwilluyep12:35
Namelessi have a problem with amsn12:35
cwilluranpha, might be non-trivial to set up, but it should be quite possible12:35
emil_cynical: how do i see the film in VLC12:35
e-typerapier: the ones in /var/log/12:35
emil_cynical: i only head the sound12:35
ranphaAwesome-o2000 YES IT IS <-----HITS MY SELF......really it is....12:35
cynical|brad|: apparently openSUSE 10.1 has support, but sadly I dont see anything for ubuntu12:35
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cynicalemil_: because its drm'd porn, it wont work!12:36
cwilluranpha, are you familiar with the command line methods of configuring interfaces?12:36
Awesome-o2000ranpha, are you sure you want to use LInux?12:36
rapieri checked the syslog and there's nothing in there12:36
emil_cynical: lol it is tv capture12:36
emil_but i'll check it in windows12:36
cynicalemil_: I'm telling you, the only reason it would not work is because of copy protection12:36
cynicalemil_: which I'm sure you dont have enabled on your tv capture card :P12:37
Awesome-o2000emil_, no porn for you - 1 year!12:37
emil_lol :P12:37
ranphaAwesome-o2000 my misake is as easily made in windows as in linux....i was just drunken (without any alchol) and manual delete both files on my hdd and backuphdd....how is that for stable12:37
e-typerapier: you'll have to give more symptoms to find a cure ;)12:37
HeathenDandarn it. how come whenever i insert a data dvd in my drive, it appears for a split second on the file manager and disappears? ubuntu doesn't mount it. =\12:37
emil_cynical: it's this file:http://rapidshare.de/files/30233017/Groningen_-_Fey_2006.wmv.html12:37
rapiere-type: i want to, but i don't know how to find them or what i'm looking for12:37
cynicalemil_: ok I'll check it12:37
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cwilluranpha, should probably get in the habit of mv'ing stuff instead, or just using gnome/nautilus (which has a trash bin)12:37
ranphacwillu i prefer using networkmanager but i want to do this. have two account. one is connect to wirless and the other is connect to wired network12:38
Awesome-o2000ranpha, then your problem is not with the file system, its with paying attention to what you are doing. Do that, and you can choose whatever file system you want. Don't blame it on the OS if you do something careless.12:38
emil_cynical: it's a captured soccer match12:38
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cwilluranpha, but I generally appreciate it that stuff (such as private keys) is actually gone when I tell the system to remove it :)12:38
AndyIsMVPcynical: Hey Cynical! Can you help me with something else?12:38
ranphaAwesome-o2000 i not blaming anybody just my self.....12:38
cynicalAndyIsMVP: sure dude whats up?12:38
cwilluranpha, or start using version control on your photo's12:39
e-typerapier: is the damn thing running? did it simply get stuck? did smoke come out of it? we know less than you do12:39
denver1does anyone how how to creat  a SmartBoot Manager boot cd?12:39
Awesome-o2000ranpha, alrighty - but you'd be better served by paying better attention rather than looking for a marine-proof file system12:39
AndyIsMVPcynical: Wine is up :P how do I install it? Iv googled around and there have been problems on amd64 got any ideas?12:39
rapiere-type it just got stuck, it stopped responding to the network and wouldn't send any signal to the monitor. it had to be hard boot12:39
ranphaCwillue or i need to format my diskthe right way... I formatted then in a NSLU2 :-)12:39
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e-typeHeathenDan: is there no error message at all?12:39
HeathenDannone12:39
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e-typeHeathenDan: insert the disk and run 'mount' in a terminal. does it show up as mounted?12:40
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HeathenDanyes, it mounts if i manually mount it12:40
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OverLordhi12:40
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HeathenDani just want it to appear on the FM or desktop so i can mount it without sudo12:41
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cynicalAndyIsMVP: check this tut out, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557&highlight=wine+6412:41
EVRAMPhello while i am cofiguring wine i recieve this error: /home/evramp/winex/wine: binary overlaps reserved area (08048000-0804c9ec) wine: chdir to /home/evramp/.wine/wineserver-pepa : No such file or directory. Registry install failed. PLS COULD YOU HELP ME? THANX12:41
HeathenDancause, i can't "eject volume" if it's root-mounted12:41
e-typeHeathenDan: is it not mentioned in fstab?12:41
ranphacwillu but what about my plan with two networks???12:41
HeathenDanlemme check fstab12:41
emil_how  do i unrar something in linux12:41
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cynicalemil_: right click on it, extract here12:41
ranphaemil_ use unrar in apt12:42
AndyIsMVPcynical:  thanks :)12:42
e-typeEVRAMP: ask in #wine ;)12:42
cynicalemil_: make sure you have the package rar installed12:42
cynicalAndyIsMVP: np :D12:42
HeathenDanhmm, it is listed, with the noauto flag12:42
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EVRAMPe-type its winehq and i asked :)12:42
e-typeHeathenDan: remove it12:42
HeathenDando i remove that?12:42
e-typeHeathenDan: with your favourite editor12:42
emil_cynical: it's a splitted rar12:42
HeathenDanok, mousepad it is12:42
HeathenDan:p12:42
cynicalemil_: oh, extract the version named .rar or part01.rar12:42
emil_oke12:42
e-typeEVRAMP: this is not a wine support channel...12:42
AndyIsMVPcynical: iv looked at that tutorial and it doesn't work12:43
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cynicalAndyIsMVP: have you tried compiling wine from source?12:43
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HeathenDanok, do i reboot to get it working?12:43
AndyIsMVPcynical: d/w i got an idea12:44
cynicalAndyIsMVP: kk12:44
denver1does anyone khow how to creat  a SmartBoot Manager boot cd?12:44
denver1know12:44
e-typeHeathenDan: nope, shouldn't be necessary12:44
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sorush20hi guys what is wx config and where do I get it from?12:45
cynicalemil_: hey emil, I can watch that file in totem just fine12:46
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RMorris84how do i play .mov files?12:46
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AndyIsMVPcynical: need help. Using this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167765 im up to step 312:47
cynicalRMorris84: install w32codecs12:47
e-typeRMorris84: install mplayer with quicktime codecs12:47
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emil_cynical: what is the problem than you think?12:47
RMorris84i have mplayer... how do i know if the codecs are installed?12:47
RichEdhi all12:47
AndyIsMVPcynical: i get: unable to find source package for wine12:47
RMorris84cynical: i just installed them and logged back in and its still not playing12:47
cynicalemil_: I think you might not have all the codecs installed. Get Easy Ubuntu here and check anything related to codecs12:47
cynicalemil_: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html12:48
emil_oke thanks12:48
RichEdAnyone here close to Georgia, Europe ? With any business interests in training ?12:48
rapiere-type: i've checked every single log file for the date it crashed in /var/log and i don't see a single thing. what else can i check?12:48
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infidelRichEd, kinda close12:49
AndyIsMVPcynical: u there cynical?12:49
cynicalAndyIsMVP: type 'apt-get build-dep wine' and then 'apt-get --build source wine'12:49
fooaddmy brother left his laptop with me, ubuntu is installed, I wanna know which boot loader is installed(LILO , Grub) how do I know that?12:49
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AndyIsMVPcynical: if i use ur guide i get an error12:49
Losty81grub will say at beginning12:49
cynicalAndyIsMVP: do what I typed above12:49
Losty81hold down escape12:49
RichEdinfidel: Where are you ? can I ping you for a private conversation (Canonical requirement)12:50
kaydeHOW THE @#$% do I Install the dam themes ive downloaded?????!!!!!12:50
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kintaro0ehello guys..how to create alias?12:50
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AndyIsMVPcynical: E: Unable to find a source package for wine12:50
AndyIsMVPcynical: It still says it12:50
kaydekintaro0e: /nick12:50
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infidelRichEd, yes12:50
kaydekintaro0e: /nick <then the name>12:50
RMorris84kayde... chill, then just drag and drop the tar.gz into the theme manager in system/pref/themes12:50
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e-typerapier: not much, you'd have to try to reproduce it12:51
cynicaltry getting it from cvs: http://www.codeweavers.com/support/docs/wine-user/getting-wine-source12:51
kintaro0ekayde: nope..i mean i'll alias my user to root :)12:51
rapiergreat, it's happened twice at around 2am12:51
wolfriderHave a problem  installing ubuntu on my laptop.12:51
wolfriderCannot make / on ext3 is the error during install.12:51
e-typekintaro0e: so you mean a shell alias?12:51
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pharcvdeanyone here use reiserfs or xfs?12:51
duenewbie alert, anyway, long story short: i was compiling something as root, realiesd i was doing make install before make, ctrl+c'ed out... and discovered that nothing works any more. :\12:52
e-typekintaro0e: you shouldn't give yourself root rights all the time12:52
kaydekintaro0e: ohhh i get ya, i thought a irc alias12:52
kintaro0ei mean i'll alias my user to root :)12:52
rapieri sure am glad that i installed the super stable ubuntu instead of windows so i don't have to reboot my machine all the time *rolleyes*12:52
kintaro0eah12:52
ranphabtw how can you really format a ext3 disk good. because when i delete a partion and then make a new one it shows all the old files just sitting there?12:52
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kintaro0ekayde: hheheh12:52
Losty81I was wondering if anyone here could help me with getting wireless running on my laptop --- wireless is only method I have of connecting this computer to net --- i dual boot  xp/ubuntu12:52
e-typekintaro0e: you can't "alias" a user... you can use su or sudo, but it would be unwise to have root rights all the time12:53
ranphalosty81 how can i help?12:53
pharcvdeLosty81, what kind of laptop12:53
due"bash: cd: permission denied" :s12:53
kaydeI need help!! I CANT get the friken themes i downloaded to install, i cant figure it out...!12:53
RMorris84kayde: did u see my response?12:53
e-typedue: is that as user or as root?12:53
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pharcvdeerr what kind of wireless actually?12:53
duee-type: as user12:53
Losty81broadcom --12:53
duee-type: i can't even log in any more12:53
pharcvdeare you trying wep12:53
kintaro0ee-type: for example if there is an email to the root, then i could read on it12:54
pharcvdeor wpa?12:54
kaydeRMorris84: OHHHHH TY!12:54
RMorris84np12:54
duee-type: i kind of get the impression that i've fucked the filesystem12:54
ranphabraodcom...of dear losty81 use ndiswrapper12:54
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RMorris84losty81 i have a broadcom12:54
RMorris84on my presario laptop12:54
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e-typedue: that would be an odd makefile ;)12:54
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wolfriderany one help me with solution to error during install. (couldnt make / on ext3)12:54
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duee-type: :) hehe12:54
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kaydeRMorris84: erm, wherre is that?12:55
e-typedue: what's 'ls -l' say on the folder you're trying to get into?12:55
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duee-type: nothing works.12:55
RMorris84what the theme manager?12:55
kaydeRMorris84: file system?12:55
duee-type: it ended up shutting down on me, booting up, i can't even log in; says it doesn't have permission to chdir to my home directory12:55
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cynicalRMorris84: Easy ubuntu enables playing of mov files, but if you are desperate theres a package in the repos called quicktime-x11utils which comes with lqtplay, a 'simple player for movies in Quicktime format'12:55
e-typedue: you somehow changed some permissions12:55
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duee-type: okay...12:55
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e-typedue: you'll have to boot into rescue mode, login as root and set permissions right12:56
duee-type: any idea how i'd go about fixing them? :)12:56
dueokay12:56
hadrienhow can I install the new java version ?12:56
due:D12:56
RMorris84kayde: where is what?12:56
LuckHow big file is possible send via Samba?12:56
OmegaNineWhy isnt xine or gmplayer in Multivers, i would think it woudl be.12:56
e-typedue: the fact that you get to the login shows that it's not completely screwed ;)12:56
duee-type: great, would you be able to explain what needs to be changed?12:56
RMorris84cynical thanks illl try that12:56
duee-type: YAY :)12:56
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e-typedue: sorry, leaving in 3 minutes ;)12:56
duee-type: This is really my first major foreay into linux; i've run it on another pc for a while, but i decided that i liked it so much, i'd dual boot windows/linux :)12:56
tjbWhy is Ubuntu more popular than Kubuntu?12:56
e-typedue: must study, but there's other guys around ;)12:56
dueaww. :) can you point me in the right direction?12:56
dueie, what to google for? :)12:57
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e-typedue: just check your home folder, it should still be owned by your user and rwx for your user12:57
duee-type: okay :)12:58
e-typedue: an 'ls -l /home' should show you12:58
tjbIs it mainly because of GNOME?  Is it also because Ubuntu has been around for longer?12:58
kaydeRMorris84: erm, it says its done it, and its now avaliable, but its not in the themes menu :(12:59
azathothi'm trying to use xinit to open Steam via wine in another server... but for some reason, it isn't opening the app... xinit works fine for anything else i try, just b0rks on wine...12:59
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duerwxr-xr-x... rwx owner.12:59
azathothi'm using "xinit wine Steam.exe -- :1" in a bash script (i cd into the Steam directory first)12:59
e-typedue: should be at least rwx------ owned by your user01:00
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azathothbut it just returns me to my original xsession when i try and run it...01:00
RMorris84kayde: u gotta link to what ur trying to install... i have sometimes found some themes dont workkk depends on where u get them, also make sure the file is themename.tar.gz (.tar.gz) is important make sure its not themename_tar.gz or something i have found that happens to help01:00
Losty81Does anyone know if ndiswrapper comes standard in latest distro of ubuntu?? or do i have to download??01:00
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OmegaNineLosty81, I dont have it, and i have a base isntall ATM01:01
kaydeRMorris84: thanks :001:01
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RMorris84least he said thanks  lol01:01
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Losty81yeah spewing.... I need ndiswrapper to use wireless to access the net ...only way i can on my laptop....no method of wired net01:01
Losty81catch 2201:02
RMorris84Losty81: what model broadcom01:02
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Losty81bcmwl501:03
RMorris84 Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 431101:03
RMorris84is mine01:03
RMorris84i used that driver on mine01:03
Losty81and it worked?01:03
RMorris84did u get it off the forums? bc that worked for me01:03
RMorris84do u have a wireless manager?01:03
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RMorris84yeah thats how im talking to u now :)01:03
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OmegaNineDl and write it to disk then move it to your lappy?01:04
Losty81i cant download anything -- is it possible to download ndiswrapper and save it on my xp partition?? im on xp now....i dual boot01:04
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Losty81cant acess net under ubuntu anyway shap or form01:04
fooaddLosty81, so this means I must restart the laptop to know? no other way?01:04
OmegaNineLosty81, You can access your XP partition under Ubuntu by defualt01:04
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Andy-cynical: cynical i have a problem with FrostWire. I go Under Applications > Internet > FrostWire and i click on it but nothing happens?01:05
Losty81yeah ok --- so i suppose my question is where do i find ndiswrapper and how do i install it?01:05
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fooaddAndy-, try running it from a terminal, and see what errors you get01:05
RMorris84http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=107192001:05
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RMorris84losty thats for u01:05
Andy-fooadd: how do i do that?01:05
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Losty81thanks01:06
fooaddjust type frostwire, I guess (??), or whatever the executable is named01:06
Losty81i had been looking through forums ---- could only find walk throughs that required net01:06
Andy-fooadd: ahh silly me i need jde (java right?)01:06
cynicalAndy-: do you not have java?01:07
cynicalAndy-: hehe yes01:07
fooaddyup01:07
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RMorris84Prerequisite01:07
RMorris84    * Ubuntu dapper01:07
RMorris84    * A wireless card that shows up in Ubuntu01:07
RMorris84    * A driver installation CD (for Windows) OR a driver for your card from the internet01:07
RMorris84    * Access to the Ubuntu Universe Repository01:07
Losty81This guide assumes 2 things:01:07
Losty81Wired internet access on the machine01:07
RMorris84so u should be good losty01:07
Andy-cynical: i only installed ubuntu 2 days ago, my 1st real linux distro (i fiddled around with DSL)01:07
Andy-cynical: so i havn't done much01:07
Losty81i dont have access01:08
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Losty81im on xp at the moment01:08
ranphabtw about that braodcom driver...why does it work in Sarge very good and my ath0 not. And in ubuntu it's the other way around...don't get that01:08
Losty81cant access net from ubuntu01:08
Losty81no wired net01:08
Losty81only way i can acess the net at the moment it through wireless01:08
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daakuhi all01:08
OmegaNineLosty81, Its duel boot though right?01:08
Losty81yeah01:09
Losty81im on xp now01:09
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cynicalAndy-: Have you tried automatix? Its nice and easy01:09
tengilanyone know of some console program i can use to turn a picture01:09
OmegaNineLosty81, Then DL it to XP, you will be able to access it via Linux01:09
cynicalAndy-: and you can install most of the stuff you need straight from it (like java, frostwire, codecs, etc)01:09
fooaddtengil, turn a picture?01:09
mopflitetengil: it can almost certainly done with the imagemagick (sp?) suite01:09
Losty81ndiswrap .... yah ok ....yeah cheers01:09
OmegaNinetengil, ...Gimp?01:09
tengilfooadd: yeah i mean rotate01:10
tengiland umm gimp does it from console?01:10
RMorris84losty- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDriver%2FBroadcom43xx01:10
Losty81ubuntu doesnt come standard with this ndiswrap01:10
RMorris84another good page01:10
mopflitetengil: by "from console", do you mean at the command line only without actually opening or viewing the image?01:10
Andy-what java do i get?: Linux RPM, Linux Self Extracting, Linux x64 or Linux x64 RPM (Im on amd-64 - ubuntu)01:10
OmegaNinetengil, Im not 100% sure, but it think so, give me a min will google.01:10
Losty81thanks heaps guys01:11
RMorris84np01:11
tengilmopflite: yes from commandline01:11
fooaddtengil, apt-get install imagemagick , and then use "convert" man convert01:11
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OmegaNineLOL thats too cool fooadd01:11
Losty81problem is there is no ndiswrapper default on ubuntu --- latest at least01:11
Oni-Draculawhere did you come from, where did you go, where did you come from, cotton eye joe?01:11
OmegaNineLosty81, There may be, but i use intel - so ubuntu wouldnt install it01:12
Andy-cynical: what java do i get?: Linux RPM, Linux Self Extracting, Linux x64 or Linux x64 RPM (Im on amd-64 - ubuntu)01:12
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mopflitetengil: man convert01:12
Losty81yeah im on intel too01:13
daakui'm trying to figure out why i cant get my internal SD card device to show up as /dev/mmcblk0 on edgy - from what i've read, it seems like something in the 2.6.17 kernel has changed might be causing it. anyone got any ideas?01:13
mopflitesorry, convert -help01:13
kintaro0ee-type kayde: how to solve my problem on alias?what i like is this: i want to see the emails of the root because i install logwatch..that emails the logs to the root..so how will i read also the emails?i read about alias..any idea?01:13
fooaddtengil, http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-graf/?ca=dnt-42801:13
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cynicalAndy-: open synaptic and search for 'java jre' then install sun-java5-jre01:13
Losty81ican only find the source for ndiswrapper01:13
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Losty81no idea how to compile it.....01:14
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Andy-cynical: thanks01:14
Andy-cynical: oh yerh how do i change my desktop to kde?01:14
OmegaNineLosty81: LOL you are screwed at every corner01:14
tengili found something similar. it just feels a bit excessive to install imagemagick on a box without x to do it hehe01:14
dueanyone have suggestions on how i can fix an issue with permissions? was compiling something as root, ctrl+c'ed out, now find that i can't do anything with my system. it's still there (booted into recovery mode), but i'm not sure what to do next.01:14
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ranphalosty81 time for wires01:15
Losty81yeah i wish01:15
Andy-cynical: iv installed it in the synaptic01:15
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Losty81theres got to be a way01:15
whazillwhat is xorg.conf file in recovery mode ?01:15
mopflitetengil: convert -rotate 90 inputfile output file (to rotate an image clockwise by 90 degrees, saving the new image as outputfile)01:15
OmegaNineLosty81: You will need to get a dpk called "build-essential" and put that on your Windows partition too01:15
mopflites/output file/outputfile01:16
tengilmopflite: yeah i see that as well. it just looks like i have to install the whole imagemagick to get the convert command01:16
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ranphalosty81 there is .....you have to search the repostoires for ndiswrapper, write down the adres (in the rep. progam) and search manually01:16
OmegaNineLosty81: Then when you get in linux, install it, and do a "./configure" "make" "sudo make isntall"01:16
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mopflitetengil: yes, I believe so01:17
ranphaOmeganine install you mean01:17
mopfliteanthony@catfish:~/photos$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/convert01:17
mopfliteimagemagick: /usr/bin/convert01:17
OmegaNineEerrr fat finger :(01:17
AsadReverytime i try to delete a file i get a "permission denied" error, the file is owned by me and i've set it to chmod 777, what could be the issue?01:17
OmegaNineLosty81: Yeah that was "sudo make install" sorry01:17
ranphaOmeagnine sure blame it on the fat finger.....01:17
AsadR?01:18
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ranphaAsadR is the disk internal or external?01:19
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AsadRinternal disk, ext3 partition, just copied the data over from a vfat partition01:19
Losty81omega9901:19
AsadRif i su to root it deletes it fine, but as myself i can't delete it even though the owner/group is set to me01:19
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ranphaAsadR do this sudo chown -R name:name * (name fill in your name)01:20
ranphaAsadr btw you need to be in the directory you want to change don't do this on the ROOT disk01:20
Losty81omeganine??? where can i find this build essential?01:20
ranphalosty81....euh...apt-get???....omeganine..fill in please01:21
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OmegaNineLosty81: Give me a second, I used apt-get but you will not be able to01:22
ranphaOmeganine...how about downloading the everthing than post it on rapidshare so he can download it???01:22
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OmegaNineranpha: Would be happy too, where does apt-get put its downloaded dpks?01:23
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fooaddOmegaNine, /var/cache/apt/archives01:23
ranphaOmeganine don't look at me i only using linux for 6 months....01:23
Losty81thanks guys?01:23
Losty81lol01:23
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Losty81once i have net on linux i think i can get the hang of it01:24
Losty81brand new to it01:24
AsadRoops, sorry, silly me, issue was directory didn't have +w permission, thx ranpha01:24
OmegaNineLosty81: You use X86 right?01:24
fooaddLosty81, yeah give it sometime, it took me  3 weeks to get net on linux :P01:24
fooaddand it was worth it :D01:24
Losty81my brother is a computer programmer and he has been raving about linux for years01:25
OmegaNineIm still pissed I bought a lappy with ATI, still cant get xgl running :o\01:25
Losty81I have just been getting into computers pretty full on the last few months01:25
OmegaNineLosty81:  ^^01:25
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Losty81yeah x8601:25
Losty81sorry01:25
OmegaNineLosty81:  NP01:25
Losty81so crowded in her01:25
Losty81e01:25
OmegaNineNP, you get used to it01:26
fooadddamn! this frostwire is great :D01:26
ranphaAsadR don't worry nothing can beat my stupid mistake form two days ago01:26
fooaddfirst time using it01:26
RMorris84Losty81, wheres ur brother when u need him lol01:26
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mcskiyHello all01:26
OmegaNinefooadd: limewire cloan?01:26
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mcskiyI have a problem :( None of my flac files play in any application, they just skip and go "all screwy"01:26
fooaddOmegaNine, yup I guess so, but it feels faster, dunno why  :)01:26
Losty81different city01:26
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asm_StucpI have downloaded the ISO Image and when I boot with CD it always hang up at Mounting root file system... can someone help?01:27
Losty81and he aint answering my msgs at moment01:27
OmegaNinefooadd: Its the kernel :P01:27
fooaddOmegaNine, heh yeah maybe :P01:27
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Losty81kubuntu?? asm-Stucp?01:27
fooaddmcskiy, what player? apt-get install flac123 (??)01:27
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asm_StucpNo Ubuntu01:27
mcskiyfooadd, Installing now, thanks...01:28
OmegaNineLosty81: I am sending you a file....01:28
Losty81i have been having that problem with the kubuntu live cd.....thought it may be from corrupt iso01:28
Losty81ta01:28
mcskiyfooadd, Have tried kaffeine, xmms and oggenc.01:28
mcskiyoggenc used to be able to open FLAC files, but now cannot ;(01:28
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fooaddmcskiy, what about mplayer? I don't have flac files to try though..01:28
cozomohi I amhaving problmswwwith  mykeyboarrrd ihave to holddd downakey for 1.7 or so seconds fro it to input01:28
mcskiyfooadd, will try.01:28
Losty81omega the send failed01:29
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mcskiyfooadd, flac123 works fine01:29
fooaddgood to know that :)01:29
ranphaLosty81 installing linux goes like this, first you think WOW...then after 5 days of browsing forums you get frustatd and think screw linux back to windows....then you see windows....nope back to shitty linux .....then after like 4 weeks (note girlfriend walked away with another and seven computers where thorne out the window) linux runs like a dream and an whole new world goes open for you01:29
redondo81what's the command to unmount a partition please?01:29
mcskiyfooadd, mplayer works fine.01:29
cynicalmcskiy: install gstreamer plugins for flac support01:29
cynicalmcskiy: in apps like rhythmbox or xmms01:30
Losty81hahahahaha01:30
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Losty81ahahahaa01:30
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Losty81i like the part how the gf leaves01:30
fooaddredondo81, umount /dev/hdxx01:30
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fooaddmcskiy, mplayer rocks :)01:30
lavihi , which package named same as gnome-libs-devel?01:30
cynicalranpha: lol01:30
redondo81ok, thanks01:30
azathothhow can i force anti-aliasing with nvidia cards?01:30
ranphalosty81 but when you discover the a sync program takes 5 houres for 300 gig on windows and only 5 sec to sync in linux you know what to pick .....01:31
cynicalranpha: same with me pretty much (minus the girlfriend part)01:31
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fooaddlavi, apt-cache search gnome libs devel | less01:31
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Losty81yeah i can see some definite pros01:32
fooaddlavi, or change the keywords "gnome "lib" ..etc..01:32
ranphaCynical what i forgot is the broken keyboard......that happend for real......bits flying everywhere.....:-)01:32
Losty81like being able to uninstall drivers without rebooting01:32
cynicalranpha: rofl01:32
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lavifooadd, I 've used gnome-lib, it only return gnome-libs-data, however ,it isnot01:33
fooaddlavi, which package do you need?01:33
ranphaand i cursed linux why it didden't have simple install program like setup in widnows.....then i discoverd apt-get :-)01:33
jriblavi: libgnome2-dev ?01:33
lavifooadd, I've installed it,01:33
lavifooadd, but it is not.01:33
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lavifooadd, I compiled bonobo ,it tells me to ensure the gnomeconf.sh file exists, but I could find it01:34
fooaddlavi, why not use apt to fetch the deps? or are you compiling from source?01:34
lavifooadd, ya, I compile from source01:34
infidelhow can i sink my evolution contacts with my cell phone?01:34
fooaddaha, I see, apt-get install apt-file, and then use "apt-file search gnomeconf.sh" to see which package has it (??)01:34
ranphaoh yeah and one thing.....winblows screwed up a partion everthing gone.......searched houres for a program for windows...discoverd linux had one..within 1 minute partion was back....01:35
OmegaNineranpha: Whats the util you used?01:35
fooaddlavi, why compile from source? isn't bonobo apt-get'able?01:35
ranphaOmeganine...it was in apt....don't know anymmore give me a sec01:36
lavifooadd, ha, I know , but I wanna compile:)01:36
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OmegaNineranpha: Cool01:36
lavifooadd, 'apt-file search gnomeconf.sh' ??01:36
fooaddlavi, then hmmm use apt-file as I suggested , and good luck :)01:36
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fooaddlavi, first apt-file update, the search :)01:36
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lavifooadd, you mean apt-file is a command?01:37
fooaddapt-file is a program, yeah a command01:37
ranphaHAHAHA...offcourse what a name...Omeganine it's called testdisk01:37
kOpterYello :) How can I get the size of a directory using bash?01:37
fooaddapt-cache show apt-file, and see for yourself ;)01:37
fooaddkOpter, du -sh /home/foo01:37
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OmegaNineranpha: My buddy just spend like 75 bucks because of the same thing, cant wait to tell him thisl.01:38
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kOpterfooadd > That was easy :)01:38
ranphaOmeganine HAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA it can restore partion of all formats....01:38
mabusHow can I alias "cat file | more"01:38
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OmegaNineranpha: He is going to crap his pants :P *quickly typs up an e-mail*01:38
lavifooadd, some websites tell me the gnomeConf.sh get from gnome-libs-devel , but I could find any relative package in ubuntu. and I dont get your idea for apt-file01:39
ranphaOmeganine tell him about boot disk...they have similair programs )all linux based)01:39
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jribmabus: why not just do 'more file' ?01:39
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fooaddlavi,  I see, honestly I have no idea... the thing is this gnome-libs-devel could be named something different ... so better check the website again, or ask on #debian (??)01:40
lavifooadd, k, tnx anyway.01:40
tomplastHi everyone, is there anyone who believes in the idea of promoting Ubuntu through a game? I have had a an idea for a while of such a thing (my programming skills is limited and so is my time) and I woud like to know if there is someone who may be interested?01:41
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fooaddlavi, apt-file tells which package has a file, apt-file search convert could give you "imagemagick" for example, get it ?01:41
fooaddsince "convert" is part of imagemagick01:41
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lavifooadd, in my os, there isnot apt-file command.01:42
fooaddlavi, that's why I told you to apt-get install it ;)01:42
lavifooadd, cool :) tnx01:42
fooaddor compile it from source, you compile-from-source freak heh :P01:42
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lavifooadd, I did `apt-file search gnomeCon.sh`, however, it returns nothing01:44
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fooaddmaybe try "gnomecon.sh" without the capital "c" (??)01:44
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fooaddlavi,  or search packages.ubuntu.com for it01:45
lavifooadd, k01:45
muhammadlavi try apt-cache search xxxxx01:45
fooaddlavi, you did "apt-file update" first?01:45
lavifooadd, wow. not yet01:45
fooaddmuhammad, he wants to know which package has the "gnomecon.sh" file01:45
muhammad<fooadd> aha thougt hes serachin abt that package01:45
muhammadthought*01:46
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beerockxsmy LC_ALL environment setting is emtpy, how do i fix that?01:46
fooaddbeerockxs, export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 , for example01:47
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beerockxsfooadd: will I have to do that again after every reboot?01:47
fooaddbeerockxs, add it to your .profile or .bashrc , or /etc/profile for system-wide use ;)01:47
mabusjrib: because I didn't know more worked like that ... :/ thanks01:47
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lavifooadd, tnx a ton. I did the `apt-file update` and `apt-file search gnomeCon.sh`, it returns libgnome-dev. however, I 've installed libgnome2-dev. Do I need install libgnome-dev still?01:48
zzyberdoes ubuntu have a package i can install for compile my own software. I dont want to install all neccessary applications one by one.01:48
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muhammad!build-essential01:48
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:48
ElvenProgrammermy ubuntu installation can't install 3 packages and apt-get dist-upgrade as suggested doesn't fix it01:48
beerockxszzyber: build-essentials01:48
fooaddlavi, then apt-get install libgnome-dev01:49
zzyberthanks01:49
lavifooadd, I meant I 've installed libgnome2-dev01:49
lavifooadd, Do I need to still ?01:49
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beerockxslavi: I think so01:51
lavibeerockxs, :) tnx01:51
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infideli have a question about openoffice, my spell check is not working. i know that is not a question, but how do i fix it is. hehe01:53
rambo3how do i start gconf from terminal01:53
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moldyhi01:53
moldywhere is the samba password file stored in ubuntu?01:54
muhammad!samba01:54
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:54
jribrambo3: is gconf-editor what you want?01:54
jribinfidel: what language?01:54
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infideljrib, english01:55
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moldymuhammad: the server guide does not mention where the password file is stored as far as i see01:55
jribinfidel: from england?01:56
infideljrib, us01:56
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jribinfidel: do you have myspell-en-us installed?01:56
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infideljrib, yes01:56
muhammadhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba  moldy try this01:57
moldymuhammad: thanks01:57
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ElvenProgrammerhow do i update gnome-cups-manager?01:58
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jribinfidel: ok in oowriter, in tools > options > language settings > languages > default language for documents > western, is English (USA) selected and is there a checkmark with the letters "ABC" next to it?01:58
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moldymuhammad: arghs, seems to be down here :(01:58
OmegaNineThey need to start making GMD's that are in widescreen01:58
infideljrib, let me check01:58
muhammadmoldy hmm01:58
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moldynow it loads, although very slowly01:59
rainer_workGood afternoon, world. I am looking for Svan Jaborek. Is this the correct channel?01:59
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muhammad<moldy> lol may b its ur connection01:59
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muhammadits workin fine here01:59
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infideljrib, no it was set to aussie land01:59
moldymuhammad: are you sure that the location of the passwd file is mentioned in that document?02:00
jribinfidel: should work if you change it to USA02:00
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moldymuhammad: i don02:00
moldyarghs shitty keyboard02:00
muhammadmoldy i think cause that document have all the info abt Samba !02:00
infideljrib, thank you it does work now02:00
jribinfidel: np02:00
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Luna-TickIf you are looking for a really easy way to really help Ubuntu, join the popularity contest. This sends the packages you use to the Ubuntu developers so that they can put the popular ones on the CDs, give them priority when fixing bugs etc. For details on how to configure popcon, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPopularityContest - we need lots of users, especially "normal" users, before it is any use!02:01
moldymuhammad: i don't need generic instructions on how to setup samba. i want to copy a samba passwd database from a non-ubuntu system into an ubuntu one and i don't know where to copy it to02:01
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Armopuhi all02:01
muhammad<moldy> aha02:01
muhammad<moldy> thats what i know btw ;-)02:02
moldymuhammad: i think i found it, by straceing smbpasswd02:02
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muhammad<moldy> gr8 hope it does work02:02
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FTMichaelIs the xserver-xorg-core update safe to install now?02:03
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Armopuanybody knows how to impede to dhcp modifying /etc/resolv.conf ???02:04
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Ychstupid completely unrelated question, but whats the command to give someone ops?02:04
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W_McLArmopu: remove the package resolvconf02:04
Ychin IRC02:04
muhammadlol02:04
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muhammadtype /mode #channel +o nick i think02:05
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Ychthankyou02:05
njanYch, most clients have it aliased to /op too02:05
W_McLYch type /help it might help you ;)02:05
njan/op, /deop, /kick, /kickban, etc02:05
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tuxtuxciao02:06
muhammadmoldy i think found what u want try sudo  smbpasswd -a username02:06
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scheurihi all02:08
Losty81hi02:09
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krikkehi02:10
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krikkei have some problems with partitioning02:11
krikkeI currently have 3 partitions, the 3rd is a fat32 which I want to resize to 5gb instead of 15gb, so I can install ubuntu on the other 10gb02:11
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OmegaNineDoes kubuntu barrow from ubuntu?  I like KDE, but Ubuntu is so well thought out, i dont wannt jump ship.02:12
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muhammad<krikke> sure u can02:12
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W_McLOmegaNine: kubuntu = ubuntu with kde as default gui02:12
OmegaNineSweet02:12
rizohi ppl02:13
Losty81hej omeganine02:13
W_McLOmegaNine: and xubuntu = ubuntu with xfce as default gui02:13
Losty81no luck i need to have gcc and make and a heap of other packages installed02:13
OmegaNineHye Losty81, how did it go?02:13
Losty81had dependency errors02:13
krikkeI currently have 3 partitions, the 3rd is a fat32 which I want to resize to 5gb instead of 15gb, so I can install ubuntu on the other 10gb02:13
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krikkeow02:13
krikkesorry02:13
W_McLOmegaNine: it's just a matter of the gui installed by default02:13
krikkehttp://users.telenet.be/djkrikke/pm.png02:13
krikkethis is the problem02:13
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rizohow can i start a process from terminal. I need the command to launch a process such as cupsys and then close it when the task is done?02:14
OmegaNineSo i guess I could just DL and install KDE and pretend there is a K not a B :P02:14
_knoppixhey guys. when I try to install I get a hell lot of messages saying "[numbers] Buffer I/O error on device dm-1, logical block numbers)"... I guess theres something wrong with at hd, but what do I do about it??02:14
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AsadRhow do i enable the Sun Java JRE i just installed?02:14
jribOmegaNine: you just need to install the kubuntu-desktop package and you will have kubuntu02:14
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jrib!multijava > AsadR02:15
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J_Phi all02:15
muhammad!java02:15
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository02:15
ArmopuW_McL: i don't have this package02:15
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rizohow can i start a process from terminal. I need the command to launch a process such as cupsys and then close it when the task is done?02:15
rizoplease02:15
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OmegaNineLosty81: Give me one sec02:15
Armopui remember there was an option i some confguration file to disable it02:15
KillerXI added "1600x108002:15
KillerXto my xorg.conf02:15
Armopubut i can't remember the file02:15
gyro54is it easy to access files from an old hard drive with an old version of ubuntu. It is connected via a usb external drive.02:16
KillerXBut I still can't change my resolution to that02:16
KillerXAnyone know why?02:16
muhammad!xorg02:16
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:16
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RMorris84killerx, ur video driver prolly doesnt support it then02:16
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FTMichaelIs the xserver-xorg-core update for Dapper safe to install now?02:16
KillerXRMorris84: I'm sure it does, it's a Macbook Pro ;)02:16
muhammadfollow that link  up KillerX then02:17
ShoopHey all. What would be the easiest way to set up a wireless connection on ubuntu without any internet connection before hand?02:17
W_McLArmopu: then /etc/resolv.conf should be static02:17
due"Unable to cd to "/home/<user>"". :\02:17
mr_smeegalanyone have any success running xgl using an intel 915 card02:17
griblingwhen I try to install UBUNTU I get a hell lot of messages saying "[numbers] Buffer I/O error on device dm-1, logical block numbers)"... I guess theres something wrong with at hd, but what do I do about it??02:17
muhammad!wireless02:17
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:17
griblingplxz help?02:17
infidelhow come i can't play simple wav files?02:17
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griblingcant find anything on google02:17
KillerXmuhammad: Looking, thanks :)02:17
muhammad<KillerX> yvw :>02:18
muhammad!formats02:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:18
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mr_smeegal!xgl02:18
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:18
muhammadinfidel u need to install mplayer02:18
muhammadinfidel sudo apt-get install mplayer02:18
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crCernierHi02:18
infidelmuhammad, thanks02:19
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muhammadinfidel np02:19
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crCernierI need to buy a new laptop, but I want to be sure that it's well recognized on Linux (I manage to install Ubuntu on it)...02:19
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muhammad!laptop02:20
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org02:20
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FTMichael!xserver02:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:20
FTMichael!updates02:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about updates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:20
Losty81hej can anyone give me a link to download gcc make libc6-dev etc?  I need to save on my xp partition so I can build ndsiswrapper and get net working under ubuntu02:20
muhammadlosty8102:20
infidelmuhammad, i guess they don't have an amd64 version of mplayer i got back Package mplayer is not available,02:20
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muhammad!build-essential02:21
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:21
Losty81!build-essential02:21
jribLosty81: install build-essential02:21
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Losty81yeah i tried02:21
muhammadhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:21
jribLosty81: what happened?02:21
Losty81but i have dependency errors02:21
muhammad!restirctedformats02:21
_w^x_does anyone know where I can find an am/fm tuner for linux02:21
Losty81says need make02:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restirctedformats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:21
Losty81g++02:21
Losty81atc02:21
Losty81etc02:21
muhammad!restrictedformats02:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:21
jribLosty81: you don't have internet access on ubuntu right now?02:22
Losty81no02:22
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RMorris84muhammad whats up with all the commands dude02:22
Losty81im on xp/ubuntu dual boot wireless on xp....no wired net02:22
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Losty81cant get net working under ubuntu02:22
muhammadinfidel read this document then ;-)02:22
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Losty81need to be able to make ndiswrap02:22
jribLosty81: build-essnetial is on the cd, is it in your repository list?02:22
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infidelmuhammad, ok thanks02:22
Losty81ok ill take another look02:23
muhammadRMorris84 excuse me ?02:23
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Losty81sick of rebooting!02:23
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RMorris84all the ! stuff....02:23
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AsadRi get a lot of errors when i try to switch to Sun's JRE (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22038)02:23
AsadRusing update-java-alternatives02:23
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z3r0xdoes anybody know a ftp client which I can chmod recursively?02:24
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muhammad<AsadR> try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre02:24
operativepart02:24
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jribAsadR: the command seems to have worked, it just says you don't hava the jdk02:25
muhammador  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin02:25
KillerXOkay, another small problem02:25
jribAsadR: try 'java -version' to check02:25
digitalhav0cwere at things like amarok, xmms  stored02:25
KillerXMy bootsplash screen doesn't come anymore02:25
digitalhav0c/usr/....02:25
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KillerXAll I get is a plain grey screen instead of the Ubuntu loading screen02:25
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AsadRjrib: java -version shows the Sun's JRE version 1.5.0, but the other commands like appletviewer don't work02:25
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muhammad<KillerX> u did startx ?02:26
W_McLjrib: then you need to install sun-java5-jdk02:26
salvatore_hy02:26
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jribAsadR: what W_McL said :)02:26
KillerXmuhammed: Yes, the resolution thing is fixed02:26
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AsadRk, thx W_McL, jrib02:26
salvatore_i have the big dick02:26
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KillerXI am talking about the boot screen that you get when the system starts02:26
appHow I can prevent mIRC from beeping at new messages, while scrolling back in window?02:26
muhammad<KillerX> aha02:27
KillerX(this problem is unrelated to the screen res. problem)02:27
W_McLAsadR: aptitude search is your friend ;)02:27
AsadRi need the JDK for viewing java applets in my browser as well? i would have thought the JRE was enough02:27
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jribAsadR: you need sun-java5-plugin for that I believe02:27
W_McLAsadR: sun-java5-plugin02:28
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AsadRok, thx again :)02:28
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muhammad<AsadR> i think sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin will do what u want to view ;)02:28
AsadRk, thx muhammad02:29
muhammadand if u want to install jdk only try this sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk02:29
manuxHi! When I try to compile the kernel I get this error: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found02:29
Cenix_install bin-utils02:29
Cenix_or is that binutils02:30
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Cenix_it contains gcc02:30
jribmanux: install gcc-3.402:30
muhammad<manux> u need the build-essential package02:30
Cenix_yeah "apt-get install binutils"02:30
Cenix_woops, yeah02:30
manuxI've got the last version of gcc02:30
muhammad<manux> sudo apt-get install build-essential02:30
AsadRwhich package provides the "strings" command as well?02:30
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jribAsadR: binutils, which gets pulled in by build-essential02:31
manuxI've just installed buld-essential (the last version)02:31
AsadRbinutils also gives me make/gcc/ld/objdump/readelf/etc..?02:31
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jribAsadR: install build-essential02:31
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schrimphey02:32
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jribmanux: gcc-3.4 won't get installed with build-essential, it is a seperate package02:32
schrimpcould anybody pls help me with my firefox-download-problem? :)02:33
manuxjrib: ok02:33
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nosseschrimp: firefox for ubuntu?02:33
schrimpnosse  yip02:33
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nosseit should be already there02:33
manuxjrib: I'm installing gcc-3.402:34
nosselost it?02:34
schrimpyeah02:34
schrimpit is ther e:)02:34
nosseworking?02:34
schrimpbut not all downloads within firfox do work02:34
nosseok02:34
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schrimpthe DL-dialogue opens, i click "save to disk" ... the window dissappears and nothing gets downloaded02:34
schrimptheres only a file of 0byte in my dl folder02:35
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digitalhav0cwhat is the path for xmms02:35
Da_Putzlerhi folks...02:35
nosseschrimp: sorry, I'm noob using Opera02:35
schrimpit mainly appears when using redirected DL-links02:35
jribdigitalhav0c: type 'which xmms' in a terminal02:35
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schrimpahkay hehe02:35
Da_PutzlerWhat's the best (and smallest) music player for Ubuntu ???02:35
OmegaNineXMMS02:35
schrimpthink thats what i'm also gonna do :)02:36
Da_Putzleris Beep the same as XMMS ?02:36
jribDa_Putzler: probably xmms, beep looks nicer02:36
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digitalhav0cthanks jrib02:36
nosseschrimp: good luck, I had some trouble with the install02:36
OmegaNine...i dont think so....02:36
Da_Putzlercause I got beep running and it seems to take up a lot of cpu time when playing music... everything slows down when it plays02:36
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MrFatJackI added xgl for my 6.06 and it seems to prevent me from typing in gnome-panel applets like dictionary or deskbar. Any thoughts?02:36
schrimpnosse  will try my best :)02:37
nosseschrimp: oh, and you should get opera downloaded firts02:37
schrimplol true :D02:37
nosse:D02:37
schrimpisnt it in synaptic?02:37
nosseI guess02:37
jribDa_Putzler: well there are cli players available if you want to be really light02:37
soujirou7How do you get a live copy of Ubuntu to recognize the hard disk?02:37
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Da_Putzlerjrib: sounds good, any u recommend ?02:37
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schrimpso i'm out! bye02:38
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fyrestrtrMrFatJack: disable xgl then.02:38
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fyrestrtrsoujirou7: system > administration > disks02:39
Phreakysdo you got window decoration mr?02:39
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mr_smeegalfollowed wiki it is slow as can be02:39
raymond__hi! what's our topic for today02:39
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Phreakysno effects on compiz?02:39
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mr_smeegalcompiz wont run02:39
mr_smeegalhow do i check if 3d is enabled for my card?02:40
raymond__what's compiz?02:40
jribDa_Putzler: hmm I don't really use any in the same way I use things like beep.  mpg321 is the only one I have used.  There are bound to be better ones I don't know about though02:40
Da_Putzlerthx jrib02:40
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Da_Putzlerany Ubuntu developers in the room today ?02:40
MrFatJackfyrestrtr: I was looking for a different work around. I'll check on the ubuntu-xgl channel.02:40
manuxthanks to all02:40
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raymond__How can we recover data from CD that has CRC error02:41
raymond__can anyone help02:41
Phreakysxgl + kubuntu is not exactly a walk in the park02:41
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jribDa_Putzler: I remember someone really liked mpd in here as well02:42
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Da_PutzlerIs their an easy way to change screensaver settings in Ubuntu without installing xscreensaver ???02:42
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Cenix_Da_Putzler, Like, in the screensaver menu?02:43
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Cenix_under system02:43
Cenix_oh, change the settings02:43
Cenix_nevermind02:43
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Da_PutzlerCenix: I mean getting access to the advanced settings that Gnome seems to have dropped... like changing separate screensaver settings and options etc.02:44
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Cenix_there should be some config files some place you could edit without having xscreensaver installed02:44
W_McL /msg nickserv set unfiltered on02:44
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Cenix_look at ~/.xscreensaver02:45
Cenix_you may specify the args there02:45
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Da_Putzlerit seems silly that Ubuntu dropped xscreensaver which worked so well for a Gnome alternative that's really cut-back...  they should go back02:45
Cenix_oh well, submit a bug report and describe the problem :)02:46
Cenix_that's the way to get things discussed02:46
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Cenix_I have to go02:46
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J_Phey all, I have RAID 1, using two HDs. But I remove one that HD and boot with de first.. after I halt system and add that HD, but system no recognize more that second HD in RAID, I think when I start only one HD system get out from RAID that second. Question is: how I add that HD in RAID 1 agaim ?02:48
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Da_Putzlerare their any tweaks available to speed up Gnome/Ubuntu ???02:48
digitalhav0cuninstall02:48
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longwaveDa_Putzler: what is slow for you? the easiest way to speed up ubuntu is usually buy more ram (unless you already have 1gb or more)02:49
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Da_Putzlermore ram ??? is it that resource hungry ???02:49
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longwaveDa_Putzler: no, but more ram means more disk cache which means less reading from disk and more speed, usually!02:49
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soujirou7fyrestrtr: What do you do after you get to system > Disks?02:49
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MalMenhello02:51
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infidelis there a way to sync my contacts to my phone?02:51
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infidelcell phone that is02:51
MalMensome times i am forced to restart the system because no sound02:51
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MalMenhow can i fic the sound with out restart ?02:51
Da_Putzlerhmm...02:51
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Miles-Hi there02:52
J_Panyone could help me with RAID ?02:52
Paddy_EIREinfidel: which mopile pnone are you trying to use in ubunut02:52
Paddy_EIRE*ubuntu02:52
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infidelPaddy_EIRE, it's a sharp vodaphone via ir02:53
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KillerX!x02:54
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:54
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MalMen!sound02:55
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems02:55
RMorris84compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0 compiz.real: No manageable screens found on display :0.0 anybody ever seen this error before?02:55
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twocatubuntu detects my wireless card just fine, but when I click "activate" the config works for a minute and then says "activated" ... when I restart the config it is "not activated" ... how do I activate my wireless? ... I've looked around and havn't found anything...I'm about to use ndiswrapper...but I would rather use ubuntu's config02:56
Miles-I'd need help, I'd trying to create a shell script using gstreamer-lame to batch/re-encode some MP3 (160k CBR to 64k CBR conversion)02:56
Miles-No clue on how to handle that02:57
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gnomefreakRMorris84: #ubuntu-xgl might beable to help more but do you have server-xgl installed?02:57
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RMorris84im in there with everyone right now but nobody seemed to know02:57
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RMorris84so i figured since theres u know 740 more people in here than there i would at least ask02:58
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ubuntuCan i install ubuntu on another ubuntu-install without removing everything in /home/?02:59
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WARlrusHi :) I've just got Ubuntu working on an old machine, and was wondering if it's possible to connect it up to my main computer, which connects to the internet wireless-ly03:00
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WARlrusI've networked the 2 using a network cable, but need to know how to share the internet03:00
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mike-digiport-im having problems starting up a server, its telling me that it cannot open the .log file03:00
MalMenWARlrus, iptables03:00
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Rookie-a NAT solution maybe ... ? build your own router ...03:00
mike-digiport-that is specified in the .conf, and the file is there03:00
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WARlrusmy main computer runs windows XP, and the Linux machine is Ubuntu 6.0603:00
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W_McLubuntu: do you have your /home on a separate partition?03:01
WARlrusI also have a USB network adaptor (belkin) but don't know if that will work on Linux03:01
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ubuntuW_McL: nope03:01
mike-digiport-?03:01
Rookie-everything works in linux, question is how to make it functional ;)03:02
W_McLubuntu: then it might be difficult03:02
fyrestrtrRMorris84: are you using nvidia's drivers?03:02
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WARlruswell how can I make the USB network adaptor functional then?03:02
W_McLubuntu: remember to make a separate partition for your home the next time03:02
RMorris84fyrestrtr: intel i810 driver03:02
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fooadd /j #arabeyes03:03
fyrestrtrRMorris84: you should use aiglx03:03
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fooadd /join #arabeyes03:03
cr3can I run apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade repeatedly? once I have upgraded, will running these commands again change anything?03:03
RMorris84i think i am03:03
Rookie-WARlrus - first, connect it and reboot, look in the file dmesg what the system defines it at ... after that check for modules ... check if the module is loaded - if not, check what modules it requires03:03
RMorris84i followed the tutorial from the ubuntu-xgl page03:03
RMorris84i mean room03:03
WARlrusokay, I've connected it and I'll try rebooting now03:04
fyrestrtrcr3: no, you need to run apt-get update first to fetch any updates, then apt-get upgrade to check for upgrades.03:04
WARlrusI'm a bit of a n00b btw - you may have guessed ;) this is my first Linux installation03:04
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Rookie-hehe ... good way to learn ;)03:04
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Rookie-i was a noob for 7 years ago ...03:04
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YogSothothHi03:04
Rookie-ok - 810 ppl, say hi to YogSothoth03:05
infidelif i want to install lame how can i do a apt-get?03:05
fooaddinfidel, sudo apt-get install lame03:05
Rookie-sudo apt-get install *pkgname*03:05
RMorris84Hi yogsothoth03:05
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YogSothothI just installed Ubuntu on my new laptop. My Wi-Fi card is installed using ndiswrapper. But I can only reach IP addresses: it seems that it does not reverse using DNS. Why?03:06
Rookie-i need a beer ... afk03:06
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god__Hey!03:07
infidel Package lame has no installation candidate03:07
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fyrestrtrYogSothoth: something is wrong with you /etc/resovl.conf03:07
god__anyone able to help me with installing php-gtk? :] 03:07
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fooaddinfidel, do you have the right repositories URI's in /etc/apt/sources.list??03:07
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infidelfooadd, it may be because i'm amd64?03:08
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earthianhello03:08
earthian:)03:08
fooaddgod__, php-gtk AFAIK isn't in ubuntu ( I could be wrong though), I installed it from cvs03:08
infidelfooadd, which repo do i need?03:08
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fyrestrtr!info php-gtk03:08
god__could you help me with installing via cvs? i keep getting an error on make03:08
ubotuPackage php-gtk does not exist in any distro I know03:08
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fooaddgod__, just a sec03:08
agibdoes anyone have experience installing ubuntu with RAID 1?03:08
god__k :] 03:08
YogSothothfyrestrtr, thank you. How can I fix my /etc/resovl.conf ?03:08
YogSothothfyrestrtr, it is empty03:09
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YogSothothfyrestrtr, is that normal?03:09
Robinhello everyone !03:09
earthiani have bought brand new 2 hard drives and made RAID 0 array. However ubuntu setup offers me to choose where i want to install ubuntu. It sees the hard drives as 2x 250GB indentical ones. I have 2x 250GB drives that are in array and should be like one 500GB ??? any idea what to do?03:09
jhasseI have Problems with Sound (nforce2). on the nvidia site is only a SuSE and Fedora driver. How can i get it work with ubuntu?03:10
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fyrestrtrYogSothoth: I made a mistake, its /etc/resolv.conf03:10
erUSUL!raid03:10
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO03:10
fyrestrtrYogSothoth: this file lists your dns servers03:10
YogSothothfyrestrtr, it's ok!03:10
fooadd god__ http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=php-gtk&submit=Submit+Query&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all    <-- I used this03:10
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erUSUL!raid > earthian03:10
fooaddgod__, search apt-get.org for amd64 pkgs03:10
god__thanks03:10
fyrestrtrYogSothoth: if its empty, it means your computer cannot resolve domain names to ip addresses.03:10
YogSothothfyrestrtr, I recopied the content from the current Ubuntu box I use and it worked03:10
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ranphahe guys i serached the whole forum but i can't find anything about dual network use...can somebody help me with this?03:11
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elvirolohi all03:11
fooaddgod__, but if you want PHP-GTK 2  install via cvs :)03:11
fyrestrtrranpha: ask a question?03:11
YogSothothfyrestrtr, I don't understand why this file was not automatically filled. I've installed Ubuntu multiple times and it's the first time it happens03:11
earthiani have bought brand new 2 hard drives and made RAID 0 array. However ubuntu setup offers me to choose where i want to install ubuntu. It sees the hard drives as 2x 250GB indentical ones. I have 2x 250GB drives that are in array and should be like one 500GB ??? any idea what to do?03:12
fyrestrtrYogSothoth: it normally gets filled via DHCP. If you don't have DHCP, you have to manually specify your dns servers.03:12
elviroloi'm using dapper with a french keyboard, and my shift and F1, F2, etc. keys don't work03:12
earthian:o03:12
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ranphafyrestrtr ...did i asked a question??????03:12
RobinCan someone help me ?. I get ubuntu working on 1 computer . but not on the other 2 they both stop at ""mouting root file system"" . Im running the live cd .03:12
fyrestrtrranpha: no you didn't, which is why I am telling you, ask a question.03:13
fyrestrtr!anybody03:13
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:13
fooaddRobin, could it be faulty hardware (??)03:13
jhasseHow can i add a menu to the loginscreen where i can selected a username, so i don't have to type the name?? (I don't want a menu with the full names, just with the usernames)03:13
manuxwhy when I compile the kernel I get some messages of this kind: restore_flags is deprecated03:13
manux?03:13
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Robini computer crashes the other says apci failed03:13
ranphahe guys i serached the whole forum but i can't find anything about dual network use...can somebody help me with this? <--- question mark means it's a question. Can somebody help me to setup a two network cards on one ubuntu computer03:14
fyrestrtrjhasse: system > administration > login window03:14
Robinone03:14
ShoeUnited!processes03:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:14
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ShoeUnited!process03:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:14
fooaddRobin, isn't there some boot option to switch this apci on/off?? (no livecd to try ..)03:14
ShoeUnited!resources03:14
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resources - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:14
ShoeUnited:/03:14
RMorris84!windows03:14
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm03:14
RMorris84ha ha ha03:14
jhassefyrestrtr: I know, but no loginscreen has a list with the usernames03:14
ShoeUnitedHow do I check what processes the system is running?03:14
manuxps -aux03:14
fooaddShoeUnited,  ps aux | less03:14
fyrestrtrjhasse: you need to enable the face browser.03:15
ShoeUnitedokeydoke, and to kill the process if i don't want it running?03:15
RMorris84shoe.. top03:15
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erUSULranpha: what is exactly the problem?03:15
fooaddShoeUnited, kill -9 process_id03:15
Linuturk_codeShoeUnited, are you running gnome?03:15
W_McLShoeUnited: ps -ef03:15
tn3270ShoeUnited : kill -SIGNUMBER <process>03:15
ShoeUnitedI'm running gnome yes.03:15
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moldyhi03:15
Robinthe computer just freezes when "mouting root file system", no errors . Is this a commen problem ?03:15
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Robinhi03:15
moldyubuntu has an "admin" group by default, right?03:15
Linuturk_codeShoeUnited, System > Administration > System Monitor03:15
ranphaerUSUL : not a problem more i like to know how to use a wired network and a wirless network together on 1 computer.03:16
bintuthello..03:16
bintutwhat is the ubuntu alternate?03:16
jhassefyrestrtr: i will try, thx03:16
ShoeUnitedah "teh gui" lol  ty ^_^03:16
fooaddbintut, alternate?03:16
bintutyes03:16
Linuturk_codeShoeUnited, yes, the gui ;p03:16
manuxI've got some warnings in kernel compiling. Is is normal?03:16
moldymanux: yes03:16
elviroloany ideas about my problem ?03:16
ShoeUnitedI wrote teh on purpose.  lol ^_03:16
RMorris84ubuntu did u ever get an answer on that?03:16
gnomefreakbintut: what do you mean by alternate03:16
fooaddmanux, if it says "deprecated" then it's deprecated, live with it :P03:17
bintutfooadd: there are 3 types of ubuntu lts and these are: desktop, server and alternate03:17
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jhassefyrestrtr: ok, logs good. Thank you03:17
bintutgnomefreak: there are 3 types of ubuntu lts and these are: desktop, server and alternate03:17
erUSULranpha: wha t do you want to do? a router? a bridge? firewalling?03:17
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gnomefreakbintut: alternative is the texr based installer03:17
jhassefyrestrtr: logs = looks, sry03:17
gnomefreakbintut: the desktop is graphical installer03:17
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manuxok, thanks. Sorry for my questions but it's my first kernel copiling03:18
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YogSothothfyrestrtr, okay this is it: i deactivated dhcp to specify my own ip address. I should have done a dhcp first!03:18
kintaro0ehi all..is there a wiki/tutorial help on make a webserver on ubuntu?03:18
jman8888Does anybody know where a good quality ubuntu logo is? Im about to burn a linux cd and im gonna print some labels. (I tried google but found a lot of things that arent exactly ubuntu)03:18
ranphaerusul. for the wired network secure acces to my private network. Wirless connection to internet03:18
YogSothothfyrestrtr, thank you03:18
kintaro0ei'm planning to build up a webserver where our company's site will be up on a ubunutu server OS03:18
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ShoeUnitedjman, why not use a bg image?03:18
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erUSULjman8888: /usr/share/example-content/03:18
fyrestrtrYogSothoth: no, you don't *have* to use DHCP, but if you decide not you, you must give IP addresses for atleast one DNS server.03:18
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Robinit there a webpage that shows the common live CD boot problems ?03:18
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fyrestrtrs/not you/not to/03:18
thx4helphi, how do I autostart an app in Gnome in Ubuntu?03:19
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jedi__lu03:19
fooaddRobin, use the error message as a keyword in google03:19
YogSothothfyrestrtr, which can be my gateway, 192.168.1.103:19
chris__Hello, I have a problem with Input devices in Audacity03:19
Robini tried03:19
fyrestrtrthx4help: system > preferences > session > startup tab03:19
RMorris84jman8888, did u check the examples folder in ur home?03:19
chris__can anyone help?03:19
fyrestrtrYogSothoth: sure it can, if your gateway runs dns :)03:19
Robinmuch forum threats without answers !03:19
kintaro0ehello everyone ..is there a wiki/tutorial help on make a webserver on ubuntu? i'm planning to build up a webserver where our company's site will be up on a ubunutu server OS..any advice?03:19
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fyrestrtr!lamp > kintaro0e03:19
erUSULranpha: so you want your ubuntu computer to act as firewall... like in this diagram [inet] <--->[ubuntu_fw] <--->[lan] 03:20
jman8888RMorris84, Yeah. Ther're a little big but i guess i can sesise. Is there some of a single logo (With no words?)03:20
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RMorris84use gimp and make it what u want03:20
RMorris84:)03:20
bintutis there a howto documentation on how to re-create an ubuntu installer like an oem installer?03:20
erUSUL!install > bintut03:20
kintaro0efyrestrtr:  is there a wiki/help page on ubuntu with that?03:20
erUSUL!apache03:21
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP03:21
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thx4helpthanks03:21
chris__I have a problem with Microphone input, can someone help me?03:21
Robinfooadd : there is no error message it freezes03:21
bintuterUSUL: i want to make use of edubuntu but i want to have apache, mysql and php included03:21
Robinand i saw many unaswered forum threats  about this03:21
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fooaddRobin, then file a bug against this ;)03:21
ShoeUnitedIs there a way to make a shortcut execute a terminal command?03:22
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ShoeUnitedI'm wanting to play wow, and I'm almost there.  LOL03:22
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fooaddShoeUnited, you mean make a "link"?03:22
ranphaerusul you can it as a firewall yes but it like this internet------ubuntu----homenetwork03:22
WARlrusHi, I've managed to load the USB network adaptor, but when I try to enable it, it says "Activating interface rcusb0" then crashes03:23
kintaro0efyrestrtr:  thanks a lot03:23
xinmy xubuntu installer crashed when it was removing the un-needed language packages and now apts being a nub and wanting to reinstall all of them. Anybody know what I can do?03:23
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moldyif i delete the "admin" group by accident, can i just re-add it with groupadd, or will i run into trouble?03:23
Robindoes ubuntu only work on NTFS ?!03:23
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RMorris84is it possible to move the home directory to another partition?03:24
fooaddmoldy, you can add it , yeah03:24
moldyfooadd: ok, thanks03:24
ShoeUnitedI suppose fooad.03:24
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ShoeUnitedIt says to type this in terminal :  wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/WoW.exe    But I kinda want a shortcut on my desktop for that. :)03:24
fooaddShoeUnited, alias wow=" wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/WoW.exe"03:24
erUSULranpha: for that use only i will choose an specialized dist like smoothwall or ipcop. if you just want to share the inet connection and set up a firewall firestarter is up to the task afaik03:24
fooaddShoeUnited, and type wow to run it03:24
ShoeUnitedohhh ok ^_^03:25
WARlrusCan anyone help me with my problem ^^^03:25
erUSUL!firestarter03:25
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)03:25
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Jack_SparrowRobin: Hi I came in late but NTFS.. ?  Ubuntu does not need ntfs for anything03:25
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fooaddRobin, are you trying to install it on NTFS, that's why you are getting error messages (??)03:25
ranphaerusul...no i want to use ubuntu and have two networks to acces to03:25
RMorris84is it possible to move the home directory to another partition?03:26
fyrestrtrShoeUnited: you can also just browse WoW.exe and double click on it to launch it with wine automatically.03:26
void^RMorris84: yes.03:26
Jack_SparrowRMorris84: yes03:26
ShoeUnitedawesome ty03:26
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RMorris84just make it and move it over?03:26
WARlrusI've managed to load a Belkin USB Network Adaptor, but when I try to enable it , I get a dialogue saying "Activating interface rcusb0" then Ubuntu freezes03:26
KenSentMeI just tried to install vmware-player on Dapper Drake, but i get this error. Does anyone know how to solve it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2203303:27
Jack_SparrowRMorris84: NOt quite that easy.. Ub needs to know where it is.03:27
ShoeUnitedI just want to mention that when wine installs on ubuntu, it's hidden.  So, if a user can't find it, that's probably the reason.  lol I know I spent quite a few minutes looking for it.  lol03:27
fooaddRMorris84, make a partition , copy your files there, and add an entry in /etc/fstab03:27
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moldy!quota03:27
ubotuquota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13-4 (dapper), package size 390 kB, installed size 1168 kB03:27
WineOMornin'  all.  I want to install Acrobat Reader and Flash on my new ubuntu box.  Can't find them in the package mgr.  What's the best approach?03:27
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KenSentMe!pdf03:28
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)03:28
fyrestrtrRMorris84: not quite. First, you mount your new drive. Then, as root copy the contents of /home to the new drive (use cp -a to preserve permissions). Then, edit /etc/fstab to make sure the new drive is mounted under /home -- finally, restart the machine (or, umount /home and then mount /home again)03:28
Jack_SparrowWineO: there is a reader in the repos03:28
Miles-!mp303:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:28
earthiani am partitioning my hard disk. could someone smart PM me what partitions do i need for ubuntu?03:28
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fyrestrtr!flash > WineO03:28
frogzoowhen I upgrade, compiz & totem are held back - any hints?03:28
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KenSentMe!flash > WineO03:28
fyrestrtrfrogzoo: ask in #ubuntu-xgl03:28
phreekbirdanyone ever used webmin or know were i can go to get support from?03:28
frogzoofyrestrtr: fair point, thx03:28
fooaddearthian, root (/) and a swap ... for now ... ;)03:28
fyrestrtr!webnim > phreekbird03:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about webnim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:28
WineOJack_Sparrow: yeah, gpdf or xpdf I guess. but is there a firefox plugin for it?03:29
fyrestrtr!webmin > phreekbird03:29
Jack_Sparrowearthian: JUst create free space on your hard drive. it partitions automagically03:29
ShoeUnited!easyubuntu03:29
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.03:29
ShoeUnited:D03:29
manopulushello, any gtk2 ssh client, a-la putty available?03:29
RobinIm a bit further now , i unplugged my primary cd drive and put the cd in the newer one . now it halt on further down the boot03:29
ShoeUnitedSuggest that to us windows users.  It'll take out some headaches. ;D03:29
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phreekbirddang that sucks03:29
fooaddmanopulus, IIRC I saw one on gnomefiles.org, do check it03:29
fyrestrtrmanopulus: alt+f2, type gnome-terminal -- then type ssh user@server.com03:29
Jack_SparrowShoeUnited: friends DONT let friends use easyubuntu or automatix03:29
ShoeUnitedlol03:30
fooaddJack_Sparrow, lol , why pal?03:30
earthianfooadd and what about the sizes?03:30
ShoeUnitedI hand't heard of the automatix.03:30
earthianmaybe a boot partition too?03:30
earthiani have a 500gb drive :D03:30
manopulusfyrestrtr, no, i need to keep list of pops, i have to manage many ssh points03:30
Jack_Sparrowfooadd: We see people in here every day with systems trashed by those "Tools"03:30
WineO!flash03:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:30
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fooaddearthian, just be generous for the root, and hmmm as you'll read everywhere, swap is the twice the size of ram ;)03:30
RMorris85jack_sparrow, i got kicked out but i asked if i could move the home to another directory and u said ya, but i got logged off before i could get the answer to if i could just make the new one and move it over or not03:30
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ShoeUnitedBut I know easyubuntu crashes on java an flash install.  Of course, I installed flash and java first before being told about it.  lol03:30
fooaddJack_Sparrow, I agree ;)03:30
ranphacan ubuntu hadden two network at the same time?03:30
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Jack_SparrowRMorris85: ONe sec03:31
ShoeUnitedeasyubuntu worked for codecs for me...03:31
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ranphaautomatix worked fine for me....03:31
Rookie-ranpha - yes, all depence on how good the solution is ...03:31
Jack_Sparrowfyrestrtr:  Please give RMorris85 those instructions again.. thanks03:31
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sceptre0Question:  I am using a laptop.  Is it possible to plug in a PS/2 mouse and detect it without restarting the computer?03:31
KenSentMeWhen try to convert a .mov file to avi with this command: ffmpeg -i bep2004_powermotive_mov.mov  -acodec mp3 -vcodec wmv2 -f avi powermotive_ffmpeg.avi03:31
Robinits booting yihhaa , huh it take real long :(03:32
Jack_SparrowShoeUnited: Works for me... not a good answer03:32
KenSentMeI get this error: Error while opening codec for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height03:32
Jack_Sparrow!worksforme03:32
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.03:32
ShoeUnitedlol I don't doubt linux guardians.  I'm just saying that one part worked and that I saw it crash.03:32
chris__Hello, I have an input problem with audacity, can someone help me please?03:32
ShoeUnitedOn a few things that were more necessary than codecs. lol03:32
Rookie-sceptre0 - what i know, linux dosent have autodetection .... but the dist ubuntu might have03:32
fooaddKenSentMe, I get the same, and I gave up the idea of converting mov files to avi/whatever, fuck apple and it's mov files :/03:33
frogzoomy totem is stuck on 1.4.1 and refuses to upgrade to 1.4.3, any hints?03:33
Rookie-remove old pkg and install new ... ?03:33
moldycan someone point me to an ubuntu quota howto?03:33
KenSentMefooadd: maybe you are right, but the video editor Cinelerra renders best to mov and i need avi for uploading video to a website03:33
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fooaddKenSentMe, I feel you...03:34
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ShoeUnitedOh that reminds me..03:34
ShoeUnited!virtualdub03:34
mopflitefrogzoo: mine is 1.4.1-0ubuntu4 too03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about virtualdub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:34
Rookie-moldy - any linuxhowto about quota is good - look at lpd03:34
moldyRookie-: ok, thanks03:34
mopfliteand I am up to date with dapper03:34
moldybbl03:34
ShoeUnitedpooh bunnies.03:34
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RMorris85fyrestrtr: ??03:34
omeganine!xgl03:34
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:34
fooaddKenSentMe, as ShoeUnited  suggested, try virtualdub via wine03:34
Jack_SparrowRMorris85: Did you get your answer yet..03:34
RMorris85no03:34
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frogzoomopflite: & it says 'held back' ?03:34
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jman888_Hello?03:34
jman888_file:///usr/share/example-content/book/ubuntubook-ch6-html/6-11.png BREAD03:34
Jack_SparrowRMorris85: ONe sec03:34
RMorris85ok03:35
Rookie-if anyone needs to know about anything howtodo (or HOWTO) io linux - this one is a good one - http://www.tldp.org/03:35
Jack_SparrowRMorris84: not quite. First, you mount your new drive. Then, as root copy the contents of /home to the new drive (use cp -a to preserve permissions). Then, edit /etc/fstab to make sure the new drive is mounted under /home -- finally, restart the machine (or, umount /home and then mount /home again)03:35
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jman888_Did anybody else see bread?03:35
ShoeUnitedAt the bakery lol ^_^  Yes I saw it though.03:36
Rookie-!tldp03:36
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com03:36
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Jack_Sparrow RMorris84, make a partition , copy your files there, and add an entry in /etc/fstab03:36
jman888_That was great. I The ubuntu people must REALLY love ubuntu.03:36
ShoeUnitedfooadd: There isn't a linux version of vdub?03:36
earthiangot a tiny question: will i go around that raid0 missunderstanding of ubuntu where it does not see my bios made raid array if i create partitions with partitionmagic before installation?03:37
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earthiando you know if i will be able to choose the premade partitions for later installation?03:37
fooaddShoeUnited, AFAIK no, ppl run it via wine, it's open source though, dunno why there is no Linux port :/03:37
Jack_SparrowRMorris85 I also would suggest you do a backup... It is one line to type in a terminal...03:37
Jack_Sparrow!backup03:37
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi03:37
Rookie-linux (or ubuntu for that matter) dosent care about bios03:37
mopflitefrogzoo: 1.4.1 is definitely the latest dapper totem, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/gnome/03:37
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ShoeUnitedfooadd: Yeah, that's what I thought, I automatically equated open source to linux.03:38
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RMorris85Jack_sparrow: Thanks... ill do a lil more research, but thats the next thing on my list...03:38
Linuturk_codedon't you just have to backup your /home directory to fully backup your system?03:38
Masqyhi, How can I search with apt-get for a package, the same way I do with synpatic?03:38
Jack_Sparrowk03:38
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frogzoomopflite: hmm... i must be picking it up from a newer repo - ok, that's cool, thx03:38
Rookie-apt-cache search03:38
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Rookie-sudo apt-cache search *pkgname*03:39
jman888_Masqy, Try going into firefox clicking on the Search thing(WIth google) and selecting ubuntu packages. Works for me03:39
cyfrHi can anyone tell me how to COMPLETLY remove XGL and then install xorg back again so that I can install and play games with cedega?03:39
fooaddRMorris84, found this http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-partplan.html03:39
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Jack_SparrowLinuturk_code: No03:39
RMorris85Jack_Sparrow, what what i need to do to reinstall or maybe try another linux distro on the partition that i just took /home/ off of?03:39
MasqyRookie-: can I use partial names instead of pkgname ?03:39
longwavecyfr: that kind of depends on how you installed xgl in the first place, which set of instructions did you follow?03:39
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AsadRthere's a notification icon that tells me i need to install 163 updates, is tehre anywya i can sort them by SIZE and make it download and install the smaller ones first?03:39
longwaveMasqy: apt-cache search searches package descriptions and partial strings as well as just package names03:39
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ElazarI have the gimp and gimp-python packages installed on Dapper, but the majority of the options under Filters, Script-Fu, and Python-Fu are disabled. Does anyone know why this might be?03:40
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cyfrlongwave: im not sure :p basicly added a repo and did an apt-get i think03:40
Jack_SparrowRMorris85 USe that tar command to backup your system.. copy that to another partition or cd or dvd...03:40
Masqylongwave: hi, how can I see the status of the packages, which are installed and which aren't?03:40
longwaveAsadR: not easily. some small ones might depend on a larger one being installed first, anyway03:40
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fooaddMasqy, dpkg --l03:40
fooadddpkg -l03:40
longwaveMasqy: dpkg -l will show you all installed packages plus any removed but that still have their config files03:40
Jack_SparrowRMorris85 Doo whatever, then un TAR it to restore your system03:41
Rookie-Masqy - yes, i just typed pkgname to show you that you can search any file or pakacge03:41
Masqyfooadd: that I'd have to do for each seperately, can I watch it while I seach ?03:41
Rookie-pkgname = packagename03:41
fooadddpkg -l  will list all pkgs, dpkg -l *gnome* will list pkgs with the word gnome03:41
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Jack_SparrowRMorris85 you need to creats a couple folders but the backup docs are clear about that03:41
longwaveMasqy: you can also browse and search for packages at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ if that is easier03:41
fooaddMasqy, or you meant something else?03:41
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Masqyfooadd: well, basically, when I search using synaptic, I get a list of packages, with their status, when I searched (just now) using apt-cache, I just got the list03:42
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Masqyhow can I find out which is installed along with the search?03:42
Jack_SparrowRMorris85: Hope that helps03:42
fooaddMasqy, by status you mean "installed/not installed"?03:43
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longwaveMasqy: you have to use synaptic for that, dpkg and apt-cache search are not connected unfortunately03:43
cyfrSo how can I remove XGL to allow me to play games?03:43
Masqyfooadd: yes03:43
longwaveMasqy: aptitude might help out here though03:43
Jack_Sparrow!xgl03:43
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:43
fooaddif you see "ii" in front of a pkg, this means it's installed, rc, or something else, this means it's not installed, or not configured yet03:43
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fooaddMasqy, dpkg -l | grep ^ii  <-- will list installed pkgs03:43
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cyfrI want to remove it not install xgl :p03:44
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MasqyI remeber a program called dselect from an old woody installation I had once. is that avail. ?  Ok, sure I can grep, just was wondering.. .ok thanks...03:44
longwavecyfr: maybe asking in #ubuntu-xgl will get you better answers, though03:44
Masqygot a handful of ideas.. : )03:44
ShoeUnitedfooadd: vdub's author might read if interested.  -->  http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=3903:44
chris__I can play sound back in audacity, but I can't record it through my Microphone, anyone have any idea why?03:44
cyfrthankyou longwave03:44
fooaddShoeUnited, thanks for the link, checking it ;)03:44
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longwaveMasqy: "aptitude" is the replacement for "dselect", which is rather old now03:45
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fooaddMasqy, I'd rather be screwed than use dselect YIKES!03:45
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Jack_SparrowMasqy: dpkg --get-selections > myprog.txt   will create a list of installed packages in a text file03:45
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ubuntuyo03:46
Masqyfooadd, longwave: Allright, so I guess I might have been looking for that.. I remember it was.. well.. how to put it.. irritating (dselect)03:46
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ubuntuhi03:46
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MasqyJack_Sparrow: 10x... I think I'll just man aptitude and dpkg for a while03:46
longwaveyeah, dselect takes me back to the bad old days of the debian text-based installer *shudder*03:47
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AsadRAnyone use irssi in a gnome-terminal? How do i switch windows since the terminal eats the aLt-N keystrokes03:48
fyrestrtrAsadR: esc+number03:49
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KenSentMeAsadR: my terminal doesn't. I only have problems when i have multiple tabs open in one terminal03:50
longwaveyeah irssi works fine for me in gnome-terminal03:50
fooaddhmmm that reminds me of trying this irssi thing :P03:50
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longwavealt+shift+left or right can also switch between irssi windows03:50
fyrestrtrlongwave: open a few tabs, then try it :)03:50
AsadRok i guess if i open only 1 tab it should be03:50
AsadRfine03:50
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longwavefyrestrtr: i use screen ;)03:50
longwavewho needs all these new-fangled tabbed terminals when you have good old gnu screen?03:51
fyrestrtrI do, for one.03:51
WineO!firewall03:51
fooaddI do :P03:51
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)03:51
ZajjkoHeya, I'm having a tab bit of a problem using UVC-drivers with my Logitech QuickCam Pro 5000. I've followed the installation-notes in the following thread and I was wondering if you guys have a good view on what could be wrong, reading my reply? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24168103:51
Rookie-!firestarter03:51
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Rookie-huh ?03:52
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AsadRnothing beats Alt-N tab switching. Infact, IMO Firefox's Windows tab switching needing Ctrl-N instead of Alt-N was a big mistake03:52
Rookie-ubotu ?03:52
Rookie-!firestarter03:52
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)03:52
fooaddRookie-,  you wrote it wrong :P03:52
Masqydpkg -l shows only installed ones, how can I watch all of them?03:52
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AsadRMost windows multi-file editors (pnotepad, eclipse, ultra-edit, etc..) don't support Alt-N file switching, which sucks.03:52
Rookie-hmmm .... i use iptables and i write my own fw ...03:52
fooaddMasqy, all of what? dpkg -l shows installed and not_installed/not_configured pkgs, this means ALL of them :)03:53
Rookie-only little curious about firestarter03:53
Masqyfooadd: in my system id doesn't : (03:53
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Masqyit03:53
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fooaddweird......03:53
mopfliteRookie-: imho firestarter is an excellent "fit and forget" desktop firewall - not particularly configurable, but good for most desktop users03:54
digitalhav0chow do i extract a bin and cue file03:54
Rookie-ahh, oki03:54
Rookie-ty 4 -h03:54
MasqyI think it shows only installed/configured ones03:54
longwaveMasqy: there are 1000s of packages, you wouldn't really want dpkg to list them *all* every time you ran it would you?03:54
digitalhav0cwell a .bin file03:54
fyrestrtrdigitalhav0c: use bchunk03:54
digitalhav0cwithout burning them to cd03:54
digitalhav0cbchunk03:54
Zajjkodigitalhav0c: Why do you want them extracted?03:54
Masqywell, I just want to search them, and for that I have to traverse them.. in some manner03:54
digitalhav0cbecuase i dont have an black cd's here03:55
fooaddMasqy, no lines starting with "rc" ??03:55
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Zajjkodigitalhav0c: mount it as a cdrom device?03:55
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digitalhavc|workhow so in linux03:55
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longwaveMasqy: well, "apt-cache search" searches them, installed or not, and you can compare that with your dpkg -l list to see if they are already installed, or use aptitude or synaptic03:55
beerockxshow can I configure which JRE i want to use, when I have several installed?03:55
gili need to connect my GSM phone to ubuntu...please help03:55
fooadddigen, mount foo.bim -o loop /mnt/somewhere as root (??)03:55
mopfliteRookie-: you might want to check out fwbuilder for a more configurable iptables management package - it is something akin to an open source check point fw-1 gui clone03:55
digitalhavc|worki know in windows i use alcohol120%03:55
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Zajjkodigitalhavc|work: sudo mount /path/to/the/bin/file.bin /media/cdrom1/03:56
longwavedigitalhavc|work: you don't need any extra software to do that in linux, just "sudo mount -o loop file.iso /path/to/mount/point"03:56
eliranhello03:56
Masqylongwave: that's what I'm about to do.. (maybe first I'll take a look at aptitude)03:56
mdasilvahi03:56
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teekay_Hello03:56
Zajjkooh yeah03:56
Zajjko-0 loop forgot that ; D03:56
digitalhavc|worklet me try03:56
digitalhavc|workbrb03:56
gilhello03:56
tryggWhats the best way to save my whole homedrive, with all the .various dirs intact?03:56
eliraninvestigating03:56
mdasilvano03:56
teekay_interest03:56
gili need help with connecting GSM cell phone to ubuntu03:56
iLikeSpoonsso, I have a problem. Lately, applications started, well, closing themselves in gnome. Without any warning or error messages03:56
Jack_Sparrow!backup03:56
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi03:56
ZajjkoWould anyone be so kind as to help me troubleshoot my webcam issue?03:56
Jack_Sparrowtrygg: One line to type in terminal03:57
iLikeSpoonsthis happens to synaptic, xchat, gaim and practically everything else03:57
Rookie-mopflite - ty, i use console only on my server and i write my own fw from scratch .... i was only curious about firestarter ... i guessed it was something with GUI thou03:57
tryggJack_Sparrow: I have no spare hddspace left so i need to like ftp it03:57
fooaddiLikeSpoons, start then from a terminal, and watch the error messages they spit03:57
fyrestrtriLikeSpoons: maybe they are just tired?03:57
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iLikeSpoons*much more crashes than there used to be03:58
gildoes anyone have any input on connecting motorola cell phone to ubuntu03:58
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Jack_Sparrowtrygg: good luck ...  I would not know where to start with that and feel comfortable I got it right.   I would borrow or buy a new drive if I were in that situation03:58
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Rookie-sounds dangerous to connect a phone to a pc ....03:59
gilok03:59
tryggJack_Sparrow: damn03:59
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Jack_Sparrowtrygg: JUst my opinion... someone else may be able to help03:59
tryggwell, lemme try something04:00
tryggbrb04:00
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donrosinERROR: Unable to bind to TCP socket.04:00
donrosin ?? wtf04:00
giladios04:00
Rookie-lol @ donrosin04:00
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infideli don't see where to change my icons04:00
Rookie-donrosin - history on that 104:01
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cAtarrohi04:01
Jack_Sparrowinfidel: Which icons04:01
Jack_Sparrowinfidel: A single program or all as in system icons04:01
donrosini have one vt server running but i want one more.. I have opened the port for the new04:01
cAtarroi need a help about windows ... i know it's ubunturoom, but i am in the dirt04:01
cAtarrowhere can i go04:01
infidelJack_Sparrow, desktop folder and all04:01
jribcAtarro: ##windows may help04:01
Zajjkohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241681 - Could someone have a quick check at my reply and perhaps give some pointers? Having trouble with my webcam04:01
cAtarroa fuc k in virus inside my hole04:02
Jack_Sparrowinfidel: theme manager... try gnome-look.org for icon themes04:02
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digitalhavc|workmust specify a file system type04:02
fooaddcAtarro, switch to Linux :P04:02
=== iLikeSpoons looks at synaptic... crash again damn you... lemme see some errors
donrosinRookie-,  ?04:02
digitalhavc|workZajjko,04:02
Zajjkodigitalhavc|work,04:02
iLikeSpoonsnothing crashes when you want it to crash, just when it shouldn't... :P04:02
Rookie-well, only thing i can think of some that something is in collition with another04:02
Jack_SparrowcAtarro: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ linux boot cd with WIndows AV tools04:02
cAtarrofooad i use linux, but i am in my gf's home04:02
cAtarromy best friend in love 's home04:03
infidelJack_Sparrow, thanks04:03
digitalhavc|workZajjko, it says you must specify a file system04:03
Jack_Sparrownp04:03
Rookie-donrosin - look into what ports any app useing .... and what another apps wants to use - on that way it can be some problem ... but a deny .. ? sounds real wierd04:03
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Zajjkodigitalhavc|work: That's what I said, I forgot the -o loop04:04
iLikeSpoonshaha... gnome panel just crashed04:04
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Rookie-donrosin - remember - linux does what you want it to do ...04:04
Zajjkodigitalhavc|work: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/the/bin/file.bin /media/cdrom1/04:04
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Jack_SparrowMost linux wounds are self inflicted :)04:04
Rookie-i would say any :)04:05
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digitalhavc|workioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy04:05
digitalhavc|workmount: you must specify the filesystem type04:05
SiLV3Rhi, just booted ubuntu and got this error: http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8004/dscf0003yn4.jpg , I didn't change or update anything the last time. somebody can help?04:05
mike-digiport-if I want to have a webserver, run with a proxy server, to forward all properly authenticated request to another site that is only accepting from my proxy server, what would be the best software for this?04:05
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digitalhavc|work sudo mount -o loop /home/digitalhav0c/Downloads/xxx/xxx.bin /media/cdrom004:06
digitalhavc|workis what i put in04:06
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Zajjkodigitalhavc|work: set it to cdrom1 instead04:06
doughboyAnyone have experience with printer sharing from ubuntu host pc  with windows xp ?  I am curious because I have samba set up so I can see it in xp my network places and can set up the printer from there. I just cannot directly connect to the printer if I try to setup a new network printer. Any ideas?04:06
fyrestrtrpicassa so spanks f-spot :)04:06
Jack_SparrowSiLV3R: Looks like you moved a partition04:07
Rookie-SiLV3R - you have done somehting wrong with the fstab or with the partion when you made the partiontable or installed and with the mountpoiunts04:07
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Jack_SparrowSiLV3R: Run live and gparted to see how they look04:07
SiLV3Rok, will try thank u04:07
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Jack_SparrowDamn this channel is good04:07
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Rookie-depence on what you looking for Jack_Sparrow04:08
Soujirou7hey cool, m online with ubuntu live04:08
NickRiversok... dumb question of the morning - is there anyway to convert my system hdd from reiserfs to ext3 without having to reinstall?04:08
Jack_SparrowIn general, one of the most helpful groups around04:08
infidelJack_Sparrow, do you recall where the icons are kept in /usr?04:08
manopulushow i can erase/change gnome-keyring password (i do not have gnome, just some apps). can i remove some settings file?04:08
NickRiversinfidel: /usr/share04:08
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erUSULinfidel: /usr/share/pixmaps/ ??04:09
Jack_Sparrowinfidel:  What all are you trying to do..04:09
Rookie-Jack_Sparrow - well, you can find me in some channels were the most common answer is rtfm ... i learn alot in those channels04:09
Soujirou7How can I get ubuntu live to access my files on my hard disk?04:09
erUSULmike-digiport-: iirc apache has a mod_proxy....04:09
infidelJack_Sparrow, thanks again,  i have the glas icons theme installed and a couple of icons need to be set04:09
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Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: mount the drive04:10
jribSoujirou7: system > administration > disks04:10
Jack_Sparrow!mount04:10
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks04:10
erUSULSoujirou7: System>Admin>disks04:10
NickRiversSoujirou7: mount the hdd you want to access04:10
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Soujirou7I did and I think it is mounted but it tells me that I don't have enough privilages?04:10
Jack_Sparrowjrib: faster than me as usual04:10
digitalhavc|workdigitalhav0c@ares:~$ sudo mount -o loop /home/digitalhav0c/Downloads/Snakeonaplane/Snakeonaplane.bin /media/cdrom104:10
digitalhavc|workioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy04:10
digitalhavc|workmount: you must specify the filesystem type04:10
digitalhavc|workdigitalhav0c@ares:~$04:10
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Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: Are you trying to write to ntfs.. not a good idea04:11
NickRiversis there anyway to convert my system hdd from reiserfs to ext3 without having to reinstall?04:11
Soujirou7no just read ntfs04:11
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jribSoujirou7: yeah, it gets mounted with root ownership.  If this was a regular install you could go ahead and mount it with proper permissions, but since this is just a live cd, just use 'gksudo nautilus' in applications > accessories > terminal04:11
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C-O-L-Thello Ubuntu04:11
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Jack_Sparrow828 people shout hello back04:12
Soujirou7what is gksudo nautilus?04:12
Rookie-hehe04:12
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NickRiversSoujirou7: gksudo nautilus will open the file browser in root mode04:12
Rookie-no panic no panic - all at the same time :)04:12
SiLV3RJack_Sparrow: when i boot live cd, i can't see my normal ubuntu partition04:12
wheelswitchkde vs gnome, discuss.04:12
Soujirou7ok thanks will try :)04:12
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: Like windows explorer.. not IE...04:12
jribwheelswitch: #ubuntu-offtopic is better suited for that04:12
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C-O-L-TJack_Sparrow: nope I was just saying a big hello04:13
NickRiversJack_Sparrow: you seem to be the goto guy... is there anyway to convert my system hdd from reiserfs to ext3 without having to reinstall?04:13
C-O-L-TJack_Sparrow: that is all04:13
Sp[L] o1Ti need help ..i need a romanian people :|04:13
C-O-L-TJack_Sparrow: :)04:13
C-O-L-TSp[L] o1T: I am from romania04:13
Jack_SparrowNickRivers: anything at that level is dangerous04:13
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NickRiversJack_Sparrow: bout what I figured04:13
Jack_SparrowSiLV3R: use 'gksudo nautilus' in applications > accessories > terminal04:14
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ryanakcaI'm going to go and get a good video card, a non-ATI, video card, around 200CAD, that will work with (AIGLX/XGL)+Compiz . What's recommended?04:14
Jack_Sparrowryanakca:  nvidia04:14
NickRiversryanakca: any high-end nvidia card will do04:14
NickRiversI use an nvidia 6800 OC and it works great with xgl04:14
Jack_Sparrow6600 oc here04:15
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Soujirou7Funny jack_sparrow :) It worked but it did give me a warning that the authentication was rejected04:15
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NickRiversI wonder how long before xgl really matures? still a bit quirky04:15
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: yep04:15
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ShoeUnitedI use an ATI Radeon 8750, I won't lie, there were troubles at first.04:15
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NickRiversATI doesn't play as nice with linux as nvidia04:16
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Rookie-As Tray In can ....04:16
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muhammadhow can i install GDM Themes ?04:16
ShoeUnitedI've noticed, but I'm stuck atm. :l04:16
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Sp[L] o1Tprv ;)04:16
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Jack_Sparrowmuhammad: drag and drop the tar onto theme manager04:16
NickRiversmuhammad: go to system > admin > login window04:16
iLikeSpoonsNickRivers: it sure doesn't.... especially the 7000 mobility series. Damn I need to get a new card04:16
HagbarddenstoreHey! Any KDE'rs here? Is there a file that KDE looks in for things to autostart?04:16
dfdlol it happened a strange thing.. I'm running xchat without being logged it.. xchat is on top of gdm.. o_O04:16
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Hagbarddenstoreat boot then...04:17
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muhammad<Jack_Sparrow> <NickRivers> thx aloooot :>04:17
NickRiversHagbarddenstore: $HOME/.kde/AutoStart04:17
ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: yes04:17
SiLV3RJack_Sparrow: when i try to access my normal ubuntu partition following error appears: "error: device /dev/hda6 is not removable" and "error: couldn't execute pmount"04:17
HagbarddenstoreNickRivers: Thankls04:17
ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: you can also set autostart in kcontrol04:17
Hagbarddenstoreryanakca: ok04:18
HagbarddenstoreI have to symlink commands to autostart correct?04:18
Jack_Sparrowjrib: can you help SiLV3R Im not sure where he is at with that04:18
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NickRiversHagbarddenstore: no... put .desktop files in your autostart folder04:18
ShoeUnitedAny speculations on future linux when ATI/AMD start making new stuff?04:18
SonicChaoWhen I try to lauch juice it says "FATAL ERROR: Screen size is smaller than 80x25". Why is this?04:18
ryanakcaHagbarddenstore: come to #kubuntu and I'll help you there04:18
ShoeUnitedI've got this feeling that they'll be making mobos.04:18
NickRiversHagbarddenstore: make a link to application on your desktop and then copy it to your autostart folder04:19
kill4killinCan someone help me fix my ubuntu install,  think kdm got messed up somehow and i dont know how to either switch to gdm or to re-install kdm04:19
jribSiLV3R: type 'mount' in a terminal.  Then post the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link please04:19
Jack_SparrowSiLV3R: you are in gksudo nautilus correct..04:19
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Jack_Sparrowthanks jrib04:20
kishorewhen trieng to install mplayer getting error as Package mplayer has no installation candidate04:20
forevertheunihi I'm doind a bootstrap and I'm having a problem :04:20
SiLV3Rok04:20
forevertheuni+ automake --copy --foreign --add-missing04:20
forevertheunitests/CeRapiInvoke/Makefile.am:2: invalid unused variable name: `AM_LDFLAGS'04:20
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earthian!raid04:20
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO04:20
forevertheuniand then 2 other AM_LDFLAGS warning04:20
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kill4killinWhen i log into xserver using kdm, for some reason it starts to log in and then stops and brings up kdm again. Can someone help me fix this04:21
forevertheunikill4killin, probably some problem start the WM04:21
forevertheunistarting*04:21
kill4killinforevertheuni: do you know how i can go about fixing this, maybe to re-install kdm or use gdm instead?04:21
NickRiverskill4killin: have you checked to see what type of seesion you have selected?04:21
kishorewhen trieng to install mplayer getting error as Package mplayer has no installation candidate04:21
jrib!xhangs > kill4killin04:22
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jribkill4killin: try what ubotu said04:22
forevertheunikill4killin, see the logs04:22
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kill4killinNickRivers: i have tried all the different sessions and nothing works04:22
Soujirou7<jack_sparrow>I can see my file structure but it won't mount even an mp3 (No codecs?)04:23
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SiLV3Rjrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2204404:23
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Soujirou7<jack> I can access my docs though, which is nice04:23
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: running live you will not be able to play an mp304:23
Soujirou7Darn hehe04:24
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jribJack_Sparrow: he can still install the codecs on a live cd can't he?04:24
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: Make them ogg's and you are golden04:24
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kill4killinjrib: i did that but it still does not start04:24
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KenSentMeI just tried to install vmware-player on Dapper Drake, but i get this error. Does anyone know how to solve it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2203304:24
Jack_Sparrowjrib:  I think so but I thought he was just trying to recover his files04:24
jribkill4killin: k, then logs is the way to go as someone else suggested04:24
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Soujirou7how do you "make" them ogg?04:25
kill4killini think i missed that part, would you please reitterate?04:25
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chaositeI have a problem with my thinkpad running Dapper, it doesn't notice when I remove AC power04:25
jribSiLV3R: when you go to system > administration > disks is the partition you want to mount enabled?04:25
NickRiversKenSentMe: looks like a kernel module - vmnet - needs to be loaded?04:25
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bilss_hi04:25
jribkill4killin: check ~/.xsession-errors04:26
KenSentMeNickRivers: shouldn't that be done by apt?04:26
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ShoeUnited!ppoe > earthian04:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ppoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
Jack_SparrowI use sound converter, but I dont think it is in live.. and are you reading from ntfs.. do you have another drive to write to that is NOT ntfs04:26
arnoHello. Could someone test my ftp server : ftp://83.157.181.15304:26
NickRiversKenSentMe: dunno... try doing a modprobe vmnet04:26
jribkill4killin: try creating a new user too and see if you can login with the new user04:26
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bilss_if i have a directory and a file run as root and i want to change the permissions to alex is it chown alex:alex?04:26
Soujirou7I have a fat32 partition but I'am unsure if I got it mounted04:26
ufkwhat branch includes glade-3? it's not in dapper04:26
KenSentMeNickRivers: FATAL: Module vmnet not found04:27
Jack_Sparrowarno: could not connect04:27
kill4killinjrib: i checked and there is either no file under that name or its empty04:27
chaositeOk it gets weirder04:27
frogzoo!pppoe04:27
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE04:27
chaositeOnly the tray icon get confused04:27
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chaositethe applet works fine04:27
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: could you please restate your intentions?04:27
NickRiversKenSentMe: did you get any installation errors when you installed vmware?04:27
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ShoeUnited!PPoE04:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about PPoE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:28
jribSoujirou7: type 'mount' in a terminal and find out04:28
KenSentMeNickRivers: the complete installation report is in the paste04:28
SiLV3R^2jrib:  oculd you send again please, win sucks :D04:28
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Soujirou7I tried to mount it but nothing happened.04:28
jribSiLV3R: when you go to system > administration > disks is the partition you want to mount, enabled?04:28
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frogzooarno: ftp doesn't respond04:28
KenSentMeNickRivers: it's in Dutch, but there are no errors04:28
ubuntuhi KenSentMe04:29
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KenSentMeubuntu: hi04:29
arnofrogzoo : could you try again now please?04:29
ubuntuwhats up, how is it going?04:29
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frogzooarno: no dice - it pings though04:29
NickRiversKenSentMe: try sudo dpkg --configure vmware-player04:29
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KenSentMeubuntu: everything ok, but this kind of talk belongs to #ubuntu-offtopic04:29
arnofrogzoo what do you mean?04:30
jribSiLV3R: when you select the partition, the bottom should say "Status", make sure that is enabled04:30
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7:  follow jrib's advice and paste results from mount in terminal04:30
ubuntulol04:30
ubuntuwow04:30
jribSiLV3R^2: when you select the partition, the bottom should say "Status", make sure that is enabled04:30
Soujirou7ok04:30
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frogzooarno: I can ping the ip - but I get no ftp prompt04:30
dfd!edgy04:30
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arnowhat's my problem then frogzoo?04:30
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jribSiLV3R^2: this is in the system > administration > disks dialog04:31
NickRiversarno: is your firewall setup properly?04:31
frogzooarno: I guess you haven't got your firewall/router setup properly04:31
mdasilvayo04:31
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ryanakcaNickRivers: what about this: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18958&vpn=EAX850PRO/HTVD/256M/A&manufacture=ASUS04:31
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KenSentMeNickRivers: i get the same error as earlier04:31
SiLV3R^2jrib: partition is disabled. but i can't activate it, becuase of "status: Inaccessible"04:31
mdasilva??04:31
Linuturk_code!schedule04:31
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:31
arnofrogzoo Nickrivers i'll look04:31
SiLV3R^2jrib: if i try to activat it doesn't work04:31
ZajjkoCan anyone give any helpful tips on errors arising with UVC-driver with Logitech QuickCam Pro 5000 on 6.06?04:31
jribSiLV3R^2: does it give you an error?04:31
NickRiversryanakca: it's an ATI card... I wouldn't use it with linux... get and Nvidia04:32
SiLV3R^2no nothing04:32
Soujirou7unionfs on / type unionfs (rw)04:32
Soujirou7proc on /proc type proc (rw)04:32
Soujirou7/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)04:32
Soujirou7varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)04:32
Soujirou7varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)04:32
Soujirou7procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)04:32
Soujirou7udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)04:32
Soujirou7devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)04:32
Soujirou7devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)04:32
jribSiLV3R^2: ok, what filesystem does it use?  and what is its name? (/dev/hda6?)04:32
Soujirou7lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)04:32
jrib!paste > Soujirou704:32
Soujirou7tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)04:32
Soujirou7/dev/hda1 on /tmp/disks-conf-hda1 type ntfs (rw)04:32
ubuntuSoujirou7: plz use pastebin.com04:33
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SiLV3R^2jrib: name /dev/hda6 -- filesystem: extend 304:33
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Soujirou7ok i got that04:33
Soujirou7sorry04:33
Jack_SparrowHold on ntfs rw ?04:33
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SiLV3R^2under acess path, there stands none, is that riught?04:33
arnoNickrivers, frogzoo does it work now?04:33
Soujirou7yeah04:33
NickRiversarno: what's the url again?04:33
frogzooarno: ip again?04:33
dmsantamJack_Sparrow, yep04:34
jribSiLV3R^2: ok that is probably why, go into a terminal and do 'mkdir /media/hda6'.  That create the /media/hda6 directory, then use that is the access path and try to enable again04:34
ryanakcaNickRivers: and is EVGA E-GEFORCE a NVIDIA or is it EVGA (it was on the nvidia page)04:34
jribSiLV3R^2: sorry, that should be 'sudo mkdir /media/hda6'04:34
arnofrogzoo nickrivers ftp://83.157.181.15304:34
NickRiversryanakca: the link you gave me was to an ASUS Radeon card - radeon is ati04:34
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frogzooarno: nope04:34
dmsantam!fuse04:34
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse04:34
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ubuntuarno: ur server is up cna ping04:35
nahojanyone running aiglx/xgl + compiz on intel 915gm express?? does it work properly?04:35
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SiLV3R^2ok, is activated now, i'll try to reboot my main system to normal ubuntu04:35
jribSiLV3R^2: wait, why?04:35
erUSUL|xgl04:35
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erUSUL!xgl04:35
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:35
frogzooarno: getting ftp through a firewall can be tricky - suggest you google 'ftp firewall'04:35
ubuntuarno: which tool r u using , proftpd?04:35
ryanakcaNickRivers: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16741&vpn=128-P2-N367&manufacture=eVGA     isn't nvidia, but eVGA, right? (it's a different link than the first)04:35
kill4k1illindoes anyone else have any ideas why when i log into xserver it just goes back to the kdm login screen? i need this fixed asap so i can finsish a project04:36
kosnickany channel about ubuntu and dsl routers ?04:36
SiLV3R^2sdev/hda6 is /. i'm on live cd now04:36
jribkill4k1illin: did it do the same with a new user?04:36
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: you are running live cd and it shows the ntfs partition as read/write ?  I am confused.. I'll just listen for awhile04:36
kill4k1illini only have one user, but i could try making a new one and see04:36
siegiedoes anyone know a package for viewing, the leds of numlock caps lock on the gnome panel04:36
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NickRiversryanakca: eVGA is just the company selling the card - anything "GeForce" is nvidia based04:36
arnofrogzoo ubuntu I use proftpd. Can you try again now?04:36
Soujirou7you know more than I do... :)04:36
arnoplease04:36
ryanakcaNickRivers: oh, ok04:36
jribSiLV3R^2: but mounting it on the livecd won't affect anything.  What are you trying to do?04:36
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frogzookill4k1illin: do you have a .Xsession or a .gnomerc or problem in your .profile ?04:36
ryanakcaNickRivers: Thanks04:36
SiLV3R^2you got the screenshot earlier?04:37
jribSiLV3R^2: or was this like a practice run?04:37
NickRiversryanakca: for example, my nvidia geforce 6800 was made by BFG Tech04:37
arnoftp://83.157.181.15304:37
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kill4k1illinfrogzoo: how do you make a new user again, its been so long since i made one04:37
Jack_SparrowSiLV3R^2: yes saw screenshot and the problem with hda604:37
frogzooarno: nope & this is getting old fast - read up on firewalling ftp as I say04:37
erUSULkill4k1illin: System>admin>users04:37
omeganineI installed my ATI drivers and now my video colors are all F'd up.  Its just the video overlay, desktop colors are fine....any ideas?04:37
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kill4k1illinerUSUL: i dont have xserver04:38
ubuntukill4k1illin: adduser command04:38
frogzookill4k1illin: sudo adduser snookums04:38
kill4k1illinthats it, thank you ubuntu04:38
ubuntukill4k1illin: yw04:38
SiLV3R^2jrib: so the main prob, ist that my hda6 is / (boot) partition and i can't boot ubuntu. just used the live cd to make those settings04:38
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NickRiversarno: what port do you have your ftp server setup to use?04:38
kill4k1illinok, whats the default root password for dapper? It wont let me make a new user using my login04:39
jribSiLV3R^2: oh ok, I didn't understand what you were doing04:39
Jack_Sparrow!root04:39
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:39
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frogzookill4k1illin: sudo adduser snookums04:39
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kill4k1illinoooo ok04:39
ubuntukill4k1illin:  type sudo passwd root04:39
ubuntumake a new 104:40
SiLV3R^2jrib: ok, what can i try now to make it work04:40
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frogzooubuntu: setting a pw for root isn't required, nor rec'd04:40
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ubuntufrogzoo: kill was asking for it04:40
Soujirou7Success! (I think)  I changed the access path for my fat32 partition so now it is accessable.04:40
kill4k1illinfrogzoo: yes the same thing happens with a different user04:41
jribSiLV3R^2: not sure why mounting /dev/hda6 on the livecd would work but it complains during bootup04:41
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NickRiversjrib: what mount options are in fstab for /dev/hda6?04:41
NickRiversarno: what port do you have your ftp server setup to use?04:41
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ubuntuoh well04:42
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: What are you trying to do?04:42
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ubuntulater04:42
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jribSiLV3R^2: maybe NickRivers can help, I'm about to leave.  gl04:42
frogzookill4k1illin: pastebin /var/log/gdm/\:0.log04:42
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Jack_Sparrowjrib: Nice work as always04:42
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kill4k1illinfrogzoo: is there a way i can try logging in with gdm, im using kdm now04:43
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NickRiversSiLV3R: put the contents of /etc/fstab on pastebin and give me the url04:43
SiLV3R^2paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22048 <<< is fstab right?04:43
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MrFatJackxgl breaks my gnome-panel applets that want keyboard input (deskbar, etc). any thoughts?04:43
SiLV3R^2NickRivers: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2204804:43
NickRiversSiLV3R: yah - hang on04:44
SiLV3R^2jrib: thanks anyway :)04:44
frogzookill4k1illin: sure - choose 'session' from login menu, as long as you have gnome installed already04:44
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jake1i'm hoping someone can assist me in finding out what driver my Wireless card is using04:44
bilss_how to chown/ as from user name root to alex a dir andf file? is it chown alex:alex?04:44
kill4k1illinfrogzoo: no, i mean, instead of using kdm i want to log in using gdm. I have already tried logging into all the WMs i have installed04:44
frogzooMrFatJack: it's not just your hotkey settings?04:44
jake1it works, but i am curious which driver it works with that way i can set up kismet04:44
sethkkill4k1illin, you can do that04:45
manuxWhy when I Install madwifi I get this error message: Makefile.inc:113: *** KERNELCONF: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/.config does not exist..  Stop.04:45
kill4k1illinsethk: yes, but how?04:45
manux?04:45
frogzookill4k1illin: can you select gnome session from login?04:45
sethkbilss_, yes, for both user name and gropup,   user:group04:45
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MrFatJackfrogzoo: not sure what you mean?04:45
kill4k1illinyes, but it does not work04:45
Soujirou7<jack_sparrow>I am trying to access my most used files under ubuntu so that I know what works and what doesn't...I don't want to dump my Win sys just yet04:45
T`chanyone use mc here?04:45
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T`chi'm trying to change the default editor to vim...04:46
frogzooMrFatJack: is there a menu for 'session' ? where you can select gnome?04:46
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sethkkill4k1illin, in the /etc/rc.# directories are scripts run for each level04:46
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jake1frogzoo at login04:46
sethkkill4k1illin, you replace the one that runs kdm with one that runs gdm04:46
NickRiversSiLV3R: try changing "/dev/hda6       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1" to "/dev/hda6       /               ext3    defaults 0       1" in /etc/fstab and rebooting04:46
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: dual boot works fine.. many many people do it including myself04:46
jake1the login screen under options04:46
sethkkill4k1illin, which will already be there if both are installed.04:46
jake1just click that and select gnome04:46
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siegiedoes anyone know a package for viewing, the leds of numlock caps lock on the gnome panel04:47
Soujirou7<jack>wouldn't I have to format my drive (ie loose my data) to dual boot.04:47
sh4doxhi :D i think i screwed my ubuntu (at least for a little bit) :D when I go to system => log off, there only appear 5  buttons ... the log off and reboot buttons are gone :s can someone help me? :D04:47
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kill4k1illinsethk, but how do i tell it to use gdm intead, or is there a way i can uninstall and then reinstall kdm?04:47
kill4k1illini think it got messed up somehow04:47
bilss_sethk so in this case say the line is drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   60 2006-08-30 15:24 echolot how to change root to echolot for echolot dir?04:47
MrFatJackfrogzoo: I think this is a known bug in compiz. thanks anyway.04:47
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: No, just squeeze some free drive space for the installer to create the partition and the swap04:48
sethkkill4k1illin, you can uninstall, but it isn't necessary.  let me get the exact names for you04:48
SiLV3RNickRivers: i'll  try04:48
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Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: How full is your hard drive04:48
frogzoosiegie: this should work: keybled - KDE keyboard LED applet04:48
XXX-560558574040helpp04:48
manuxWhat kind of error is this when I try to Install madwifi: Makefile.inc:113: *** KERNELCONF: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/.config does not exist..  Stop.04:48
manux  ?04:48
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nlitementhello! :)04:48
XXX-560558574040NO MP3 PLAY AT UBUNTU !!!04:48
kill4k1illinO.o04:48
Jack_SparrowXXX-560558574040: dont yell04:48
sethkchown echolot:echolot  filename   (or dirname, exactly the same command for a file or a directory)04:48
Jack_SparrowXXX-560558574040: Yes we can play mp3's04:48
Soujirou7full as in what? I have no "unallocated space" and otherwise it is maybe 50% full04:49
siegiefrogzoo, that is a kde package?  i use gnome?04:49
XXX-560558574040no mp3 play at ubuntu drake04:49
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XXX-560558574040any help?04:49
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: do you have access to partition magic..04:49
XXX-560558574040any help ? no mp3 play04:49
nlitementI've quickly tried the faq, can someone tell me, does the standard ubuntu install cd include ftp/apache/php packets?04:49
synicXXX-560558574040: quit repeating yourself.04:49
frogzoosiegie: I haven't used it, but worth giving it a go04:49
NickRiverssiegie: try installing gkrellm-leds04:49
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: if not the installer can shrink your existing partition,04:49
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Soujirou7um, not really04:49
jake1can someone tell me how to find out what driver my wireless card is using04:49
frogzoo!mp3 > XXX-56055857404004:49
SiLV3RNickRivers: still doesn't work to boot04:49
jake1and how to change it04:49
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bilss_sethk; so in this case for the directory chown  echolot:echolot echolot?04:50
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operativeany explicit reason why libgtk2.0-dev shouldn't be able to install on dapper?04:50
sethkkill4k1illin, on my box the gdm link is a link to an empty file, and my kdm link is a link for the kdm start script.  you reverse that to get gdm instead of kdm04:50
frogzoojake1: should be mentioned in /var/log/messages - you shouldn't need to change it really04:50
NickRiversSiLV3R: /dev/hda6 *is* an ext3 filesystem right?04:50
Soujirou7Ok, so about how much would you suggest for ubuntu?04:50
kill4k1illin:-/04:50
siegieNickRivers, gkrellm is not wat a want, i want it on the panel like i had in debian sarge keyboard-led-applet was it but it doesn't has newer versions for new gnome04:50
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: the installer on the live cd will shrink your existing system and make room for dual system04:50
nlitementno answer?04:50
sethkbilss_, yes, to change the directory, but none of its contents, yes04:50
manuxwhat kind of file is .config ?04:50
kill4k1illincan linux write to ntfs ok?04:51
Jack_Sparrowno04:51
operativemanux: ascii04:51
Jack_Sparrow!fuse04:51
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse04:51
nlitementsigh..04:51
sethkkill4k1illin, no, still dangerous04:51
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SiLV3RNickriver: right04:51
frogzookill4k1illin: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start04:51
Soujirou7Will it configure it or will I have to monkey it so I can boot back into XP?04:51
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XXX-560558574040Help ! no mp3 play ! AND Can't compile the Gambas and many other progrs04:51
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bilss_sethk: and in the case of a file that directoiry as alex chown echolot echolot alex (the file name is alex in echolot dir)04:51
kill4k1illinfrogzoo: yes i know i did that a few times and it doesnt help04:51
sethknlitit doesn't work that way04:51
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Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: it sets up grub and both systems04:51
dfd!mp304:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:51
synicXXX-560558574040: you've already been answered.04:51
Jack_SparrowSoujirou7: from a menu04:51
arnoftp://83.157.181.153 could someone try again now? please04:52
Soujirou7ok04:52
sethkbilss_, if it's the current directory, yes04:52
frogzooarno: nope04:52
bilss_sethk: must do it as root#04:52
HendrikoHi, when preseeding ubuntu i have a problem. i get a hostname assigned via dhcp during boot. now the installer always shows me that name and i have to press return to commit it. is there a way to omit that?04:52
arnofrogzoo : can you still ping?04:52
Soujirou7Is there a size requirement for ubuntu04:52
jake1none of these mention the driver04:52
Jack_Sparrowsynic:  Some people can type but have hard time reading ")04:53
jake1just the status of eth204:53
sethkbilss_, if root currently owns the file, yes04:53
matthewfhow much of a pain in the arse woul installing Ubuntu on a system based on NForce4 Intel be (going to use VIA Audio and a Geforce 6200 for video mind you) ?04:53
synicHendriko: just type in a new one04:53
frogzooarno: you can use 'shields up' or similiar to check if your ftp port is contactable, that's step #104:53
NickRiverssiegie: try going to http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/x11/keyboard-led-applet and downloading and installing the .deb file04:53
jake1i want to know what driver eth2 uses04:53
kill4k1illinif i cant write to ntfs, is there a way that i can backup some stuff so i can just reformatt this partition?04:53
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bilss_sethk yes root owns file and directory04:53
erUSUL!fuse04:53
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse04:53
Jack_Sparrowmatthewf: have you run the live cd yet04:53
sethkjake1, try ifconfig -a04:53
sethkbilss_, ok, then yes, use sudo04:53
frogzooarno: yes it pings - google 'shields up' so you can check yourself04:53
Jack_Sparrowkill4k1illin: you can read ntfs with no problem04:54
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sethkjake1, you can find out the type of hardware using lspci, also04:54
Hendrikosynic, well its ok that i get a hostname and i want the system to take that hostname. what i do not wnat it to have to press a key during a preseeded install!04:54
Jack_Sparrowkill4k1illin: you can burn dvd or cd04:54
matthewfJack_Sparrow: no.. system isnt built yet... i have the choice of mobos as i have 2 spare ones .. an Intel 955x one and a NF4 Intel one04:54
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synicHendriko: ah04:54
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matthewfJack_Sparrow: the 955x may be a little... iffy tho, but the other one hasnt been used at all04:54
jake1sethk i know the hardware04:54
synicHendriko: yeah, dunno, sorry04:54
sethkjake1, then what do you need?04:55
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kill4k1illinJack_Sparrow: i dont need to read ntfs, i need to write some of my files on my *nix partition to ntfs or some backup media. Is there a way to write a cd from terminal?04:55
HendrikoI have tried several settings in the preseed-file but that message does not go away :(04:55
jake1i plug in my wireless card and it works, i'm just curious which driver it works with04:55
Jack_Sparrowmatthewf: nforce4 is ok... just dont try to use the riad on it04:55
sethkjake1, lspci will show you the kernel modules04:55
sethkjake1, sorry, lsmod04:55
jake1but not the driver04:55
NickRiversSiLV3R: I'm stuck... dunno man - sorry :\04:55
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sethkjake1, that is the driver04:56
matthewfJack_Sparrow: it is the Intel version, and its ment to be a bit of a pain sometimes, but i think thats mosly for overlocking which this system wont be04:56
NickRiverskill4k1illin: if your linux partition is ext3 there is a freeware program that will let you read ext3 from windows04:56
erUSULjake1: dmesg | grep eth204:56
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kill4k1illinNickRivers: what is it called, i need it04:56
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matthewfJack_Sparrow: Id use the 955x but i think i may have uh... abused it to much heh04:56
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siegieNickRivers, i have tried it but it depens on libpanel-applet0 i have libpanel-applet2-0 installed but nothing04:56
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Jack_SparrowI understand..04:56
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jake1wow....... i've tried all these, and none of them say the driver to eth204:56
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jake1just it's status04:57
jake1and crap04:57
jake1like that04:57
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Soujirou7Thanks Jack_sparrow :)04:57
jake1i need to know the driver in order to configure kismet04:57
Jack_SparrowSiLV3R:  Are you still stuck trying to get hda6 to boot?04:57
NickRiverskill4k1illin: http://www.sharewareconnection.com/diskinternals-linux-reader.htm04:57
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sethkjake1, the kernel modules _are_ the driver04:57
frogzooJack_Sparrow: which wireless card?04:57
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matthewfJack_Sparrow: so as far as your aware NF4 Intel should work (including SATA/IDE,Network etc) ?04:57
Jack_Sparrowfrogzoo: ?04:57
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frogzoojake1: which wireless card (soz Jack_Sparrow)04:58
erUSULjake1: what chip uses the card?04:58
kill4k1illinthank you all, and goodbye for a little while04:58
Jack_Sparrow:)04:58
jake1it's a Lucent Technologies04:58
jake1Silver04:58
jake1802.11b04:58
Jack_Sparrowmatthewf:  you can look up the other hardware info.. since that is not wireless it should be ok04:58
dverzollaWhat is the lattest version of mythweb?04:58
Jack_Sparrow!hardware04:58
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport04:58
jake1now the back of the card has big writing that says ORINOCO04:59
jake1but i'm curious... if i type in 'iwconfig' under eth204:59
erUSULjake1: then you know it. it uses the orinoco driver04:59
jake1but... if i type in iwconfig it says under nickname: HERMES05:00
jake1which is a driver isn't it?05:00
jake1well it says HERMS I05:00
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jake1HERMES I*05:00
SiLV3RJack_Sparrow: still stuck :(05:00
erUSULjake1: lsmod | grep orinoco05:00
Jack_SparrowSiLV3R: have you browsed to see if it looks like all your stuff is still in there?05:01
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frogzoojake1: sudo lspci |grep -i wireless05:01
SiLV3Ri didn't look exactly if there is everything still availabe but i accessed my home dir and there still was everything05:02
jake1frogzoo that told me my internal wireless card05:02
jake1not my pcmcia card05:02
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frogzoojake1: cardctl ident05:03
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AsadRis it ok to ask for help with firestarter?   firestarter refuses to run dhcpd by itself, I have to start it manually otherwise it tries to configure interfaces on which dhcp is not supposed to listen on05:03
jake1nope just names the card and tells me who manufactured it05:03
jake1whatever05:03
jake1probably orinoco05:03
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Jack_SparrowSiLV3R:  here is one option.. http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html  super grub reapir... I wonder is fsck on hda6 would help... ask rivers05:04
AsadRand is Rythmbox supposed to play mp3s out of the boxc?05:04
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erUSULjake1: lsmod | grep orinoco <-- if this outputs anything orinoco is the driver05:04
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Jack_Sparrow!mp305:04
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jake1at any rate..... how do i configure Kismet to use the orinoco driver05:04
jake1where is the kismet.conf file05:04
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zielonkahello05:04
Jack_Sparrowbrb05:05
jake1erUSUL: yep it's the orinoco driver then05:05
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frogzoojake1: http://www.kismetwireless.net/Forum/Equipment/Messages/1149856224.233933905:05
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zielonkaexit05:06
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frogzoojake1: /etc/kismet/kismet.conf05:06
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keescookis launchpad down?05:06
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keescookhiay ScislaC05:06
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ScislaChi keescook!05:07
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WARlrusHi, I'm having problems with a USB Wireless Network Adaptor, whenever I try to enable it, it says "Activating interface rausb0" and freezes05:10
ScislaCanyone have any pointers to good documentation about recovering files/directories from "lost+found"? google and ubuntuforums haven't turned up much for me05:10
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WARlruscan anyone help me with the USB Wireless problem? ^^05:12
WARlrusplease - I'm getting rather desperate05:12
MasqyHas someone comiled ffmpeg here? which source did you use? (It is a stop towards VLC on my ubuntu, trying to get WMV3 formats to show some video)05:13
pianoboy3333Does anyone here have experience with mencoder, I'm trying to crop and resize a movie.05:13
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_lupineWARlus: are you using the native driver?05:14
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_lupineAnd if so, how up to date is it?05:14
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JackMacOKCWARlrus: from my experience, usb wireless is hit and miss in ubuntu. most people i've tried to help with it have never got it working. what adapter do you have?05:14
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_lupineJackMacOKC: I've got one of those, and they work well05:14
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_lupinejust slightly tempermental - the drivers are still beta05:14
JackMacOKC_lupine: hence the phrase, hit and miss05:14
_lupinehehe05:14
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WARlrusI have a Belkin one05:15
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WARlrusI just plugged it in, and Ubuntu is recognising it05:15
_lupinerausb0 is a certain chipset, with a certain driver - so dont' worry about that too much05:15
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_lupineah; yes, if you've got a driver included with Ubuntu, it's bound to be well out of date05:16
kikkodo dapper kernels have himem support?05:16
_lupineDo you have any experience with compiling kernel modules?05:16
_lupinekikko: 4GB I think05:16
_lupinemore if you're running amd6405:16
_lupine(assuming you're using himem in the DOS sense)05:16
Ricesteamwhat is the difference between i386 vs i686?05:17
WARlrusno, I've never compiled a kernel module before05:17
JackMacOKCi686 is optimized for pentium 4s05:17
gravesonwhat decoder do i need to play .mov files05:17
_lupineWARlus: OK, and are you just using the default kernel?05:17
JackMacOKCgraveson: quicktime05:17
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fijamJackMacOKC: for PIII and up05:17
_lupine (run uname -r and report the output if you're not sure)05:17
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kikko_lupine,  do I have to compile a custom kernel if I have 6GB of RAM  (32bit intel)05:17
_lupinekikko: probably05:17
_lupinethe default is 4GB support05:18
kikkodang :\05:18
_lupinenot hard :)05:18
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JackMacOKCfijam: true05:18
Ricesteamwould there be noticable differences if I update to i686 from i386 since I'm using a P4?05:18
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_lupinejust get the sources, run "make oldconfig", then change that one option and make05:18
fijamRicesteam: there will be05:18
_lupineRicesteam: possibly not05:18
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fijamRicesteam: quite noticable05:18
JackMacOKCRicesteam: should be, its worth it to upgrade05:18
WARlrusI'm just rebooting the machine after another attempt, give me a second and I'll run that command05:18
_lupineok05:18
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MrZaiuswhat's the new gpm package?05:19
Jack_SparrowRicesteam: very little difference, I have both kernels available in my meun05:19
RicesteamI don't want to reinstall Ubuntu and all the other apps I got working...05:19
_lupineUbuntu are considering scrapping the divergent architectures, since the developers aren't seeing much (subjective) difference05:19
MrZaiusor rather, how do you get gpm installed in dapper?05:19
_lupinebest bet is to run a few benchmarks and see what you get on your machine05:19
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MrZaiuslibgpmg says it's installed, but it can't find an installation candidate for 'gpm'05:19
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Jack_SparrowRicesteam: First of all you really need a backup... no matter what OS... and you can add a 686 along with the running 38605:20
_lupineNo need to reinstall to change the kernel, though05:20
RicesteamThanks. I think I'm just going to leave it as i386 for now since everything is working fine now.  I'll opt to upgrade if I'm forced to reinstall my OS05:20
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JackMacOKCRicesteam: thats usually fine. i've found that upgrading is really only beneficial if you have hyperthreaded or dual core processors05:21
WARlrus2.6.15-26-386 - thats the output I got05:21
fijamc'mon it's not that dangerous05:21
Jack_SparrowRicesteam: I was expecting more of a difference...05:21
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_lupineWARlus: cool. I've got an easy route for you then05:21
Jack_SparrowRicesteam: and I am running ht/dual05:21
WARlruswoo, I like them05:21
fernando_Hi, all. I have a problem with cups http print. I receive a message "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed". Someone can help ?05:21
MrZaiusonly reall see it when everything is compiled in an architecture specific way05:21
[g2] in 6.06.01 from the livecd using the persistent option is there a way to get it to recognize /dev/hda6 ?05:21
WARlrus:) thanks, what is it?05:21
_lupineGo to http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/dists/dapper/main/binary-i38605:22
MrZaiusgoogle for gentoo/ubuntu benchmarks05:22
MrZaiusbut it's not that big a deal05:22
_lupineYou'll find a load of .deb files05:22
JackMacOKCJack_Sparrow: well it depends on what you're doing. you're not going to see a differnce if all you do is surf the web05:22
_lupineYou want to download ralink-config*.deb (should only be one of them)05:22
WARlrusyeah found that05:22
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WARlruswhat do I do with it then?05:22
_lupineYou also want one of the ralink-drivers-2.6.15-26-386 .debs05:22
MrZaiushuh....05:23
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Jack_SparrowJackMacOKC: The most intensive cpu programs I have... are the screensavers05:23
_lupineChoose the one with the most recent date05:23
WARlrusokay05:23
JackMacOKCJack_Sparrow: well there ya go ;)05:23
MrZaiuswhy on earth would gpm be in universe and not main?05:23
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fijamJack_Sparrow: :D05:23
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_lupineNow you install them. Really simple - in terminal, "sudo dpkg -i <deb-file>"05:23
gravesoni want to install totem-xine and i notice ubuntu-desktop is going to be remove,this is going to cause other issues right ?05:23
user__helo?05:23
_lupineOr if you  right-click on them, there might even be a menu option05:23
earthianhow to set up a PPPoE broadband internet connection with adsl modem without internet ??05:23
WARlrusokay, but how can I transfer them onto my computer running Ubuntu05:23
earthiani mean without internet access etm05:23
WARlrusI'm on a different PC atm05:23
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fijamyes, user__ >05:23
user__can i qeust here me problems :D?05:23
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_lupineWARlus: USB drive?05:24
WARlrusah yeah ;)05:24
_lupine:)05:24
WARlrusyou'll have to talk me through the right command to run05:24
WARlrusone sec, I'll transfer them first05:24
user__fijan?05:24
_lupinenp05:24
Jack_Sparrow!ask05:24
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:24
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user__where i can found me installed programs!??!?!?!05:24
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fijamearthian: what modem?05:24
fijamuser__: hello :)05:24
_lupine graveson: shouldn't be a problem. just make sure that you re-install ubuntu-desktop before you upgrade to edgy05:24
earthiandsl modem connected to computer through a lan cable05:25
Alex_-_Does anyone know why when I type an address in opera, it opens up whatever address I typed in Firefox and leaves the opera window blank?05:25
Jack_Sparrowuser__: what did you install and how did you install it05:25
cliffdcan I just say I went from being so so about ubuntu to loving it in less then 10 seconds... Ive tried most other distros gentoo, FC, suse, debian, and slackware and none of them supported my bluetooth mouse out of the box. all required a kernel patch and lots of mucking with the xorg.conf. but ubuntu.... just worked (I can belive it) no wonder so many people are converts.05:25
_lupine(presumably, totem-xine conflicts with a dependency of ubuntu-desktop, which is being removed)05:25
fijamearthian: what company/model05:25
fijamuser__ what do you mean?05:25
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AstralJava_lupine: I understood that update-manager -d fixes that problem, no?05:25
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earthianericsson05:25
earthiansome old crap05:25
_lupineI have no idea - what on earth is update-manager? ;)05:25
Jack_SparrowAlexWow, that is a great Opear feature... they finally got smart05:26
WineOAnyone know how (if possible) to migrate Thunderbird files (mail, contacts, folders) to Evolution?05:26
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fernando_Someone can help about "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" at http print in cups ?05:26
user__:( im an new ubuntu user, and if i install something, i dont know wherei can find it back :(05:26
sh4doxhi :D i think i screwed my ubuntu (at least for a little bit) :D when I go to system => log off, there only appear 5  buttons ... the log off and reboot buttons are gone :s can someone help me? :D05:26
_lupineAlex: Check your MIME types05:26
graveson_lupine: sorry for my ignorance but what is edgy ?05:26
fijamearthian: not good. You will have to google thoroughly for a firmware for it05:26
_lupinenext version of Ubuntu - 6.1005:26
Jack_Sparrow!edgy05:26
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:26
_lupine!edgy05:26
_lupinesnap :)05:26
fijamearthian: your ISP may also provide some kind of instruction05:26
user__:( im an new ubuntu user, and if i install something, i dont know wherei can find it back :(05:26
user__:( im an new ubuntu user, and if i install something, i dont know wherei can find it back :(05:26
_lupineuser_: look in synaptic05:26
StephenL!schedule05:26
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:26
Jack_Sparrowuser__: what did you install and how did you install it05:26
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fijamuser__: What did you install?05:27
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tmcmhello.05:27
fernando_hello05:27
fijamhello05:27
Jack_Sparrowhello05:27
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tmcmi installed the last round of changes from the updates and now05:27
JackMacOKChello?05:27
manuxAnyone has got the surecom pcmcia wireless?05:27
fernando_My problem is "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" with cups.05:27
AstralJava_lupine: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=1405:27
m_0_r_0_nwhere do I find the messages of the last boot process05:27
Jack_Sparrowuser__: That is not a hard question...05:27
user__jack_sparrow: i installed wine, with synaptic !05:27
user__jack_sparrow: i installed wine, with synaptic !05:27
user__jack_sparrow: i installed wine, with synaptic !05:27
JackMacOKCm_0_r_0_n: dmesg05:27
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tmcmi installed the last round of xorg changes from the automatic updates and now my x server won't start05:28
tmcmany ideas?05:28
_lupineit'll be listed in synaptioc then05:28
fernando_In Debian I can print normally in http://10.10.0.75:631/printers/hp820, but not with Kubuntu 6.0605:28
_lupinepresumably, you're looking for a menu icon - there isn't one05:28
cliffdcan somone tell me about upgrades, when Edgy becomes the stable version, will I be able to do an inline/inplace upgrade or will I need to re install?05:28
user__jack_sparrow: i installed wine, with synaptic !05:28
JackMacOKCuser__: yes, we heard you the 1st time05:28
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_lupinecliffd: should be able to just upgrade05:28
user__jack_sparrow: sorry05:28
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fijamuser__: Try running a termianl and typing wine05:29
AstralJavacliffd: You can, with update-manager or aptitude dist-upgrade05:29
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_lupineassuming you haven't broken your install too badly ;)05:29
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WARlrussorry _lupin, having problems with my USB ports, I've only got 2 lol. I'm almost done transferring those files05:29
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JackMacOKCtmcm, you need to update your repos and download the newer version to fix xorg05:29
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AnotherAlexI'm so confused.05:30
earthian\o/05:30
earthiangrub loading05:30
_lupinenp05:30
earthianand then error 205:30
tmcmi'm running ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS and i have an nvidia geforce fx 520005:30
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user__fijam what means  termial? or what u say05:30
cliffd_lupine AstralJava: so once its out if im up to date with my system ill roll over into edgy?05:30
earthianfuck that i am goind back to windoze :((((05:30
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earthiantoo much of a pain for a stupid install05:30
fijamuser__: I made a typ. termianal05:30
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_lupinecliffd: yes05:30
fijam*typo05:30
tmcmJackMacOKC: what should i update them to?05:30
cliffd_lupine: thanks much.05:30
koduteanyone tried to run Ultramonkey or Heartbeat on ubuntu?05:30
zmohi05:30
AnotherAlexcan someone tell me why when i type an address in opera, it opens the address i typed in firefox, and leaves the opera window blank?05:30
JackMacOKCtmcm, there was a stick about this for awhile. let me get the info for you again05:30
zmoI just installed ubuntu on my new box05:30
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synickodute: I am using heartbeat05:31
synicer... was, for drbd05:31
zmoand I discovered I bought a ATI (don't care much about hardware)05:31
_lupine AnotherAlex: check your MIME types05:31
Jack_Sparrowuser__: there is a channel called #wine for more info05:31
_lupinepresumably, Opera isn't the default application05:31
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zmoare there proprietary drivers installable from apt ?05:31
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zmowhere shall I RTFM about that ?05:31
_lupinezmo: linux-restricted-drivers package05:31
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WARlrusokay, I have those 2 files on the desktop, how do I go about running them?05:31
_lupines/drivers/modules05:31
zmo_lupine - thanks05:31
AstralJavazmo: apt-cache search fglrx05:31
_lupineWARlus: if you right-click, there might be an option to install them05:31
zmoany link to good RTFM ?05:31
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Jack_Sparrow!ati05:32
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:32
_lupineif not, then open a terminal window and cd to your desktop05:32
JackMacOKCtmcm: you want xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.405:32
zmothanks you all05:32
Jack_Sparrownp05:32
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kodutesynic: i tried to install it but i had missing lib files. and couldn't get the correct ones from apt-get05:32
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JackMacOKCtmcm: if you apt-get udpate, you should see that version out there now and be able to pull it in to fix xserver05:32
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WARlrusYeah, found that option :) I'll install then get back to you ;)05:33
_lupineok05:33
samuelbarretthi all im new05:33
fijamhello samuelbarrett05:33
StephenLAnyone know of a good guide for pam_mount?  I keep getting the error pam_mount: bad number of args for volume05:33
Jack_SparrowWelcome05:33
samuelbarretthi05:33
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WARlrusokay, I've done that05:34
slaxyhi guys05:34
samuelbarretti used to use pclinuos but when i upgraded it had to many problems05:34
WARlrusdo I reboot now?05:34
fijamhello slaxy05:34
_lupineWARlus: no need05:34
_lupinefirst, make sure the rausb0 interface is DOWN05:34
fernando_quit05:34
WARlrus:D I'll give it a go now then05:34
WARlrusokay...05:34
_lupinethen "sudo rmmod rt2570"05:34
ScislaCanyone know how to view the contents of a directory that is in lost+found?05:34
_lupinethen "sudo modprobe rausb0"05:34
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_lupineerm, "sudo modprobe rt2570"05:35
_lupined'oh05:35
slaxyi was planning to download and install KDE with ubuntu .... where do i start ??05:35
_lupineAfter that, run "sudo rutilt"05:35
erUSUL!kubuntu05:35
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.005:35
WARlruslol okay, just give me a second!05:35
_lupineslaxy: start with kubuntu-desktop05:35
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_lupinesnap :)05:35
erUSUL!kubuntu > slaxy05:35
_lupineNP WARlrus05:35
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Jack_SparrowScislaC: have you tried gksudo nautilus05:35
tmcmJackMacOKC: thank you very much05:36
tmcmthat fixed the problem05:36
JackMacOKCtmcm: good deal05:36
tmcmbye05:36
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AnotherAlexok, i feel dumb- that was easy05:36
AnotherAlexthanks _lupine05:36
_lupinenp05:37
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slaxywell i dont want to install Kubuntu.... since i already have ubuntu... anyway.. starting kubuntu-desktop means... kde should already be available .. as far as my info goes, it is not there in my ubuntu.. also as far as i know.. i need to download kde.. and how do i do the whole thing...05:37
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ScislaCJack_Sparrow: the problem is actually SPECIFICALLY that my gksudo command doesn't work, and I think that the dir that is in lost+found may be the reason :)  (It was working, had a power failure, had to manually run fsck, now gksudo fails to do anything or throw any errors)05:38
fijamslaxy: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:38
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JackMacOKCslaxy: installing kubuntu-desktop installs the core kde components05:38
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WARlrusCritical error: Can't find "adhocmode" private ioctl. Code: 15805:38
WARlrusI get that error when running sudo rutilt05:38
Jack_SparrowScislaC: how about sudo  ... same thing05:38
seatouchhi can anyone tell e how to change the broadcasting ip of a interface?05:38
erUSULScislaC: maybe fsck could only recover the dir but not its contents :(05:39
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slaxythx fijam, JackMacOKC ... how do i change the gui to kubuntu05:39
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erUSULseatouch: ifconfig ?05:39
_lupinehmm. OK, rmmod the rt2570 module again05:39
seatoucherUSUL,  yeah05:39
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ScislaCJack_Sparrow: just did that :) thanks for the pointer05:39
JackMacOKCslaxy: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:39
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seatoucherUSUL, i tried with ifconfig eth1:2 -broadcast 1.1.1.105:39
Jack_Sparrownp05:39
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_lupinethen run "find /lib/`uname -r` -name rt2570"05:39
seatoucherUSUL,  as ip changes the broadcasting ip changes05:39
seatoucherUSUL,  i dont want that to happen05:39
ScislaCerUSUL: and it looks like you're correct... it does have the dir, no contents though :(05:39
_lupineerm, find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name rt25705:40
fijamslaxy: when you install kubuntu-desktop and reboot you will be able to choose kubuntu at the login screen05:40
jribslaxy: at the login screen you can click on options on the bottom left of the screen and select your window manager05:40
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Jack_SparrowScislaC: sudo nautilus --no-desktop/media   is a better choice05:40
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_lupineerm, find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name rt2570.ko05:40
_lupinesorry05:40
Jack_SparrowScislaC: a little safer05:40
_lupinebrain freeze there!05:40
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RMorris85can u change from ubuntu to kubuntu ?05:42
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WARlrusokay, that seemed to work05:42
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jribRMorris85: you can install the kubuntu-desktop package to get kubuntu as well as ubuntu05:42
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_lupineWARlus: did it list one or two files?05:42
WARlrusit found the file05:42
erUSULseatouch: maybe the broadcast adress you try is incompatible with the ip adress iirc they are closely related (google for ip calculator)05:42
fijamRMorris85: yes05:42
WARlrusone05:43
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RMorris85how hard is it?05:43
RMorris85what do i have to do?05:43
seatoucherUSUL,  yeah might be05:43
_lupineerUSUL: www.dnsstuff.com is great for that sort of thing :)05:43
WineOHow do I make iptables start and load a saved (iptables-save) config at startup?05:43
_lupineiptables-restore05:43
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fijamRMorris85: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:43
jribRMorris85: 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop' in a terminal, done05:43
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fijamRMorris85: pleasent and easy05:43
anthonyheya I'm trying to install a canon iP1500 using this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56725&highlight=ip1500 , only the first link is broken! can anyone link me to an update for libc6 ?05:43
_lupineWARlus: not very good :(. Is it an ad-hoc network you're trying to connect to ?05:43
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fijamjrib: we are answering simultanously :)05:43
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Jack_SparrowWineO: I would use one of the firewall managers like firestarter or guarddog05:44
WineO_lupine: right, but how to make it happen automatically?05:44
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erUSULseatouch: http://jodies.de/ipcalc?host=10.0.0.1&mask1=24&mask2=05:44
WARlruserm what do you mean by "ad-hoc"?05:44
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WARlrusits just an open network05:44
WARlrusthat is used by some other PC's on a network (all windows)05:44
samuelbarrettwhere are the cookies kept in ubuntu?05:44
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_lupineWineO: stick it in /etc/rc?.d somewhere05:44
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seatouchthanks05:44
_lupineWARlrus: ok try a reboot (ack)05:44
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fijamsamuelbarrett: it depends on browser, I think05:44
WARlrusokay05:44
ScislaCnow that's weird... so, none of my apps from the administration menu will launch, but if I type the commands that the shortcuts store in a terminal window, they launch fine... anyone know why that would be?05:44
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samuelbarrettim using firefox05:44
erUSULsamuelbarrett: if you use ff under ~/.mozilla/firefox/ afaik05:45
_lupinepossible that *something* is out of date05:45
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WARlruswell I can't update anything until connected on that PC05:45
WARlrusvicious circle05:45
yoshiznit123hey everyone, i'm trying to mount an ext3 partition on /media/data and it keeps saying " /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/share busy" although I know its not mounted...?05:45
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_lupineWARlrus: it should "just work"05:46
erUSULyoshiznit123: /media/share and /media/data are not the same05:46
_lupinebit of a PITA if it doesn't05:46
fijamyoshiznit123: you sure it does not get mounted automagically somewhere else?05:46
subparis it possible to run amarok in gnome?05:47
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fijamsubpar: why not?05:47
_lupinesubpar: yes05:47
erUSULsubpar: yes05:47
yoshiznit123erUSUL, oops, i'm trying to mount both /media/data and /media/share and both don't work :-(05:47
subparhm05:47
jribsubpar: yes05:47
yoshiznit123fijam, no I don't think so, its not in mtab or /proc/mounts05:47
AstralJavasubpar: Sure is, but when installing it will pull some needed kde libraries.05:47
_lupinebut it means you'll need to load all the KDE libraries as well05:47
subparright05:47
_lupine(bit of a performance hit, but not too bad)05:47
fijamyoshiznit123: ok05:47
WARlrusokay, I've rebooted05:47
_lupineplus it'll look a bit out of place ;)05:47
WARlrusshould I try activating?05:47
anthonyheya I'm trying to install a canon iP1500 using this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56725&highlight=ip1500 , only the first link is broken! can anyone link me to an update for libc6 ?05:47
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_lupineOK, is the rt2570 module loaded? (lsmod)05:48
subparAstralJava: right, I installed kdelibs and amarok, but when I run amarok it sends me load way up05:48
WARlrushow do I check that?05:48
_lupinerun lsmod05:48
_lupinelook for rt2570 in the list05:48
_lupine(near the top usually)05:48
_lupineamarok is a busy app. anyway05:48
_lupinewhat sort of load are we talking?05:48
AstralJavasubpar: I remember once trying it and it consumed an awful lot of resources...05:48
erUSULWARlrus: lsmod | grep rt2570 works equally well05:49
subparoh, so I should just tough it out05:49
AstralJavasubpar: If you insist on running it. :)05:49
Jack_Sparrowanthony: there must be something wrong with that package if they pulled it05:49
WARlrusnope, its not there05:49
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_lupineWARlrus: ok modprobe it05:49
_lupine(so sudo modprobe rt2570)05:50
subparheh05:50
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subparthanks :)05:50
Jack_Sparrowanthony: It was marked as testing.. use at your own risk etc..05:50
_lupinethen check lsmod again (as erUSUL pointed out, | grep rt2570 works)05:50
fijamyoshiznit123: what is the excatc command you use for mounting?05:50
yoshiznit123hmm, fijam, the thing is when i do "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1" it says "/dev/hdb1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!"05:50
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yoshiznit123fijam, "sudo mount /dev/hdb1"05:50
WARlrusokay05:50
_lupineMy amarokapp is using... 10% of my RAM (so 51.2M), and 4% of CPU (so 175mhz)05:50
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AstralJavasubpar: I'm not of course sure whether they could be done something about it, who knows. I never cared much for it anyhow...05:50
yoshiznit123and it's already in fstab...05:50
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jbroomeOn the server install, am i missing something, or are the headers for the installed kernel not available05:51
fijamyoshiznit123: if it is in fstab it could be mounted automatically05:51
yoshiznit123fijam, this might be a bug with the installer? i just installed with the new dapper cd, this didn't happen before (it's the alternate cd, and i chose different mount points from the installer...)05:51
WARlrusyes, its there now05:52
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anthonyJack_Sparrow, yeah, I'm a little scared!  I've tried to install this sodding thing many times, and I have to say, if I can't print, no more linux for me I'm afraid :(05:52
fijamyoshiznit123: very strange05:52
_lupineok, try sudo rutilt again05:52
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WARlrussame error05:52
RMorris85after i do the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop what do i have to do to get to kubutu?05:52
yoshiznit123fijam, can you check the permissions of folders in your /media?05:52
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_lupine WARlrus: very strange... ok, can you bring the interface up in the usual manner?05:53
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Jack_Sparrowanthony: If you chose your OS based on your printer... good luck...  I shelved my cannon to run a better OS05:53
WARlrusthe network interface?05:53
_lupineyes05:53
WARlrusokay05:53
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_lupineso sudo ifup -a (if it's in /etc/network/interfaces)05:53
fijamyoshiznit123: on hdd, which are FAT I have 77705:53
_lupineor just ifconfig rausb0 up05:53
_lupine(++sudo)05:54
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yoshiznit123ok thanks, hmm i think i'll look around for a while05:54
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WARlrusYES! ITS NOT CRASHING!05:55
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WARlrusits activated!05:55
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_lupinew00t :)05:55
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WARlrusmoment of truth, will it load internet05:55
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AstralJavaRMorris85: Log out, and choose kdm or Kubuntu or whatever it is called in the options.05:55
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WARlrusOMG IT WORKS!05:55
Jack_Sparrowcool05:55
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WARlrus_lupine - I could kiss you :D05:56
AustLaw`is there a website with a lot of gnome themes somewhere?05:56
Jack_Sparrowgnome-look.org05:56
WARlrusthank you so so so so much man!05:56
Jack_Sparrow1 in 10 dont work05:56
_lupineright, so at a consultancy rate of 8000/hr, I think that's about 600 ;)05:56
_lupinej/k05:56
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WARlrusI think this is the point I run ;P05:56
_lupineGlad you got it working.05:56
WARlrusThank you so much :)05:56
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_lupineYou'll need to update the ralink-drivers deb every time you update the kernel05:56
constantine-xvibeagle is not searching my stuff05:56
WARlrusOff that site you gave me?05:57
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_lupineI'll be trying to keep the "repo" up to date05:57
_lupineyes05:57
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WARlrusOkay, thank you :) I will bookmark it05:57
_lupineif the site dies for whatever reason, though, you'll need to compile your own...05:57
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RMorris85i get an error when i do the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:57
WARlrusWell I'll cross that bridge when and if I come to it ;)05:57
anthonyJack_Sparrow, I've had SO many problems with linux.  I've written them all down and I'll link to them when I give up.  then I'll try using Ubuntu is a couple of years time, when (hopefully) it has more support for all my stuff05:57
_lupine...the site for the source code is http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com05:57
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WARlrusokay, thanks :)05:57
_lupinemight as well bookmark that too05:58
fijamRMorris85: what error?05:58
AstralJavaRMorris85: Which kind of an error would that be?05:58
RMorris85Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have05:58
RMorris85requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable05:58
RMorris85distribution that some required packages have not yet been created05:58
RMorris85or been moved out of Incoming.05:58
martiianyone noticed problem with ubuntu and matrox g550? agp?05:58
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WARlrusThanks once again :)05:58
brucedesJust installed ppc ubuntu, but it never asked me what root password I want to use, so whats the default one?05:58
constantine-xvii can not get beagle to search my documents05:58
WARlrusand let the hours of Ubuntu fun begin!!!05:58
RMorris85The following packages have unmet dependencies:05:58
RMorris85  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: language-selector-qt but it is not going to be installed05:58
RMorris85E: Broken packages05:58
Jack_Sparrowanthony: good luck with that philosophy...05:58
anthonyJack_Sparrow, mind you, most of the stuff is not hardware-support-related, more trying-to-get-linux-to-work-related05:58
anthonyJack_Sparrow, you think it' bad?05:58
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WineOIs it possible to install ubuntu on a new drive and partition with LVM?05:59
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fijamRMorris85: it should work anyway05:59
user__ok someome get help me??05:59
user__plz private chat05:59
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cliffdWineO: use the alternate CD05:59
npsterWhat is a good disassembler decomplier for linux that supports lot of languages and binary files such as .exe ?05:59
user__some can help me06:00
wozniakhas anyone heard of a system crash while using firefox, but only on a wireless connection?06:00
Jack_Sparrowanthony: You already said if you cant get your printer to work you will be going back to windows..06:00
jribRMorris85: what command gave you that error?  Also, please post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link06:00
brucedesuser: no, not at all, thats why we're all in support channel :P06:00
RMorris85sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:00
jribuser__: what is your question?06:00
WineOcliffd: does that support AMD64?06:00
_lupinewozniak: most likely the driver is crashing and burning under load, causing the kernel to die as well06:00
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_lupinetry a driver update06:00
_lupinedriver==kernel module, of course06:00
Jack_Sparrowanthony: Basing your choince of OS on a printer that costs little more than the ink cartridges inside it does not make sense06:01
zmore06:01
AstralJavaRMorris85: Please do as jrib suggested, I suspect you're using a mirror which isn't working at the moment. This package is in main, so it should just work(tm).06:01
wozniaklupine: im slighty new, can you get me started on that?06:01
anthonyJack_Sparrow, and then retrying linux in a couple of years06:01
cliffdWineO: yes06:01
_lupineok, do you know what chipset your card is?06:01
brucedesDoes anyone know why the search bar in Firefox doesn't work? I hit enter and it doesn't search (using ppc btw)06:01
cliffdWineO: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.06/ at the bottom06:01
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RMorris85uh, i have a problem, theres only three things in there.06:01
jrib!easysource > RMorris8506:01
_lupineif not, just pastebin the contents of the terminal command "lsmod" while the wireless interface is up06:02
anthonyJack_Sparrow, why would I buy a new printer if I can use this one with windows?! one option is free, the other not06:02
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Jack_Sparrowanthony: You will spend more on anti-vir and anti-spyware and anti-ad-ware than you paid for that printer06:02
wozniaklupine: what does that even mean06:02
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anthonyJack_Sparrow, nope it's all free through my uni at the moment06:02
wozniaklupine: and no, i don t k now the chipset of my wireless06:02
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zmoI got a dualcore 64bits AMD processor, and I'm not sure what the right thing to do. Right know I'm on a fresh ubuntu 6.06.1 install for 32bits... Can I, based on this install, recompile the kernel in 64bits and the few software I like to have optimized, or will I get into trouble mixing 64/42 bits codes ?06:03
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mcphailzmo: you need a fresh install to go from 32 to 64bit06:03
Jack_Sparrowanthony: Good to know our tax dollars are helping06:03
_lupinewozniak: open up a terminal window, and type "lsmod"06:03
Glomboolcan anyone tell me where to get a version of libxine that will play commercial dvds?06:03
_lupinethen copy and paste the output into...06:03
anthonyJack_Sparrow, I'd by paying them anyway....... :P06:03
jrib!dvd > Glombool06:04
_lupine!pastebin06:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:04
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Glombool!dvd06:04
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:04
zmomcphail - well, I've been told that ubuntu 64bits is not as good as the 32bits version06:04
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zmo(based on friends experience...)06:04
jbroomebut it has more bits!06:04
anthonyJack_Sparrow, sorry missread - I'm in the UK, and I pay for the stuff idirectly through uni06:04
Glomboolthnx06:04
mcphailzmo: the 32 bit version will offer the easiest user experience06:04
Jack_Sparrowanthony: They pay or you pay.. someone pays...06:04
Jack_Sparrowanthony: It is just silly to chose an OS based on a used printer06:05
fijamkind of true06:05
zmomcphail - well, my point is not about easy or not, but about not loosing time doing unuseful stuff06:05
RMorris85i regenerated my source list and it gave me the same error as before... :-/06:05
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wozniaklupine: can you tell me what to look for here?06:05
anthonyJack_Sparrow, it's not just the printer though.  how do I send you a file?06:05
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RedroseOk, i've tried getting freecycle, but it failed, can anyone name a garageband look alike that's in the apt repo?06:05
Redrose!repo06:06
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:06
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anthonyJack_Sparrow, (an odt of my problems so you can see what I've been through!)06:06
mr_smeega1i am trying to launch evolution in dapper drake it just hangs at :~$ evolution06:06
mr_smeega1CalDAV Eplugin starting up .06:06
mr_smeega1any ideas06:06
brucedesdoes anyone know a good m4a codec that'll work with banshee?06:06
AstralJavaRMorris85: Did you do apt-get update?06:06
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mr_smeega1how do i remove that eplugin06:06
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RMorris85i can06:06
Jack_Sparrowanthony: This is NOT the place for this discussion, this is a place for people to get help with an OS they want to use. You have made up your mind...  Enjoy your choice as I will enjoy mine06:06
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mr_smeega1anyone06:07
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anthonyJack_Sparrow, you are of course right.  My apologies.06:07
mr_smeega1:~$ evolution06:07
mr_smeega1CalDAV Eplugin starting up .06:07
mr_smeega1just hangs there06:07
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yoshiznit123hey fijam, i found the problem in the forums - completely removing the evms package worked, but it's kind of nasty (for one, ubuntu-standard gets removed) do you know any other workarounds?06:08
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WineOWhat app do I use for LVM?  Is there a gnome frontend for it?06:08
fijamyoshiznit123: nope06:08
fijamyoshiznit123: strange issue06:08
yoshiznit123yea...06:08
RedroseOk, i've tried getting freecycle, but it failed, can anyone name a garageband look alike that's in the apt repo?06:08
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yoshiznit123how would I just stop evms from starting on boot? (without modifying initscripts and all)06:09
RMorris85i ran the update and it said -- E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)06:09
RMorris85E: Unable to lock the list directory06:09
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earthian06:09
nagyv_I would like to install ubuntu in an IBM Thinkpad 600. The downloaded alternative CD can not start. It asks for a 2nd CD. I have tried with an original Breezy CD. There the install CD started, but the Live did not. Are there any changec that if I install Breezy it will work well after with Dapper well?06:09
AstralJavaRMorris85: sudo apt-get update06:09
AstralJava;)06:09
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RMorris85E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.06:10
yoshiznit123nagyv_, what do you mean when you say it asks for another cd? the alternate CD should only have one06:10
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W_McLnagyv_: install breezy, after that edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change any "breezy" to "dapper", do aapt-get update and a apt-get dist-upgrade06:11
evil-tuxnalioth hablas espaol?06:11
AstralJavaRMorris85: Okay, please paste that /etc/apt/sources.list so we can have a look -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:11
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naliothevil-tux: no, vaya a #ubuntu-es por espaol, por favor06:11
AstralJavaRMorris85: It's obvious that file isn't quite right.06:11
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brucedesI was wondering if anyone knew of keymaps for macintosh keyboards? Since they have different keysets to standard keyboards06:12
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RMorris85http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2205406:12
naliothbrucedes: the mac keyboard is listed in your preferences06:13
AstralJavaRMorris85: Thanks, having a look now...06:13
WineOWhat app do I use for LVM?  Is there a gnome frontend for it?06:13
evil-tuxnalioth ok will try, need help...nick eviltux this registered?06:13
evil-tuxI am new in this network06:13
naliothevil-tux: you are registered.  :)06:14
mcphailWineO: here is a debian-based tutorial which might help: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/41006:14
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gre1srry for callin u man whores the other day06:14
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AstralJavaRMorris85: Could be that the us.* mirror isn't working 100% atm. Try again later, or if you feel brave, use another mirror -> change 'us' to some other country code, or leave the country codes out completely.06:15
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AstralJavaRMorris85: But other than that, the file looks to be just right now.06:15
ra1how to remove a module and it folders from cvs06:15
RMorris85feeling brave?06:15
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AstralJavaRMorris85: :) I just mean that if you feel like editing that file by hand.06:16
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RMorris85just take out all the us.06:16
RMorris85?06:16
AstralJavaRMorris85: That should work.06:17
evil-tuxnalioth yes but with evil-tux when eviltux expires nick?06:17
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naliothevil-tux: /msg nickserv info NICK06:17
naliothevil-tux: nicks expire after 60 days of non use06:17
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ScislaCAnyone familiar with the System>Administration apps not launching? It says "Starting Administrative Application" in the task bar, but never prompts for password and it silently quits.06:17
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evil-tuxnalioth, eviltux: Last Seen: 1 year 18 weeks 6 days06:18
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evil-tuxcan register it I and leave this?06:18
naliothevil-tux: /msg me please06:18
mcphailScislaC: a recent botch in the compiz repos broke things like Synaptic, if that is what you mean06:18
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RMorris85took the us out and still no workie06:19
RMorris85hrrrmmm06:19
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WineOmcphail: thanks!  I couldn't readily see how to specify the root partition when it is a volume group.  Any ideas?06:19
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r466erhow can i see which users belong to a group??06:19
selinuxiumHi all any PERL users here, I am having problems installing libxml-simple-xml even with apt....06:19
AstralJavaRMorris85: Did you remember to do sudo apt-get update again after editing the file?06:19
RMorris85yeah06:19
Cenix_r466er, cat /etc/groups06:19
erUSULScislaC: try in terminal 'gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic'06:19
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Cenix_err06:19
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Cenix_/etc/group06:19
earthiancan anybody help me install ubuntu on a raid thing? i am newbie to all tech things and stuff. and i do not have internet on the computer i am trying to install ubuntu... and i have like 1 floppy disk :)06:20
AstralJavaRMorris85: Is it the same error msg?06:20
earthianhelp1!!06:20
earthian:/06:20
Jack_Sparrow!raid06:20
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO06:20
RMorris85yup06:20
mcphailWineO: i have never experimented with such dark magic! I was keeping this for a little project when i get some spare time...06:20
earthianthat wont help me a lot :S06:20
earthiani am using livecd06:20
erUSULearthian: did you enabled the raid functions in the bios?06:20
r466ercenix , but not every user is shown in this file; cause i know that a user belongs to a group, but in the file /etc/group stands nothing that this user belongs to the group i know06:20
earthianyea06:20
earthianthe disk in partition magic is 500gb now06:20
earthianwindows does find it06:21
AstralJavaRMorris85: That's weird. I'm getting no errors.06:21
RMorris85The following packages have unmet dependencies: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: language-selector-qt but it is not going to be installed06:21
earthianbut ubunti sees only 2 hdds with 250gb each06:21
Cenix_and what about the standard gnome user manager?06:21
earthiangparted does not see any partitions06:21
earthiannothing06:21
earthian:(06:21
earthiani am stuck06:21
Cenix_oh yeah, I see06:21
Cenix_the main group is indeed not in /etc/group06:22
Cenix_that one is to be found in /etc/passwd06:22
r466erok thx06:22
Jack_Sparrowearthian: did you even read that link on setting up a raid on ubuntu06:22
Cenix_(the groupid is in there I mean)06:22
earthianyea i read it.06:22
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Cenix_(you'll have too lookup what group name it is in /etc/group that corresponds to that gid)06:22
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earthianit wont make the raid bootable06:22
earthian?06:22
Jack_Sparrowearthian: And you dont understand why you see two 250's and not a single 500?06:22
erUSULearthian: that's it linux afaik does not support this configuration you have to disable raid in the bios and use software raid through dm and lvm. if you plan to dual boot with windows keep in mind that windows does not support the linux raid and viceversa06:22
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earthianomg06:23
ScislaCmcphail: yeah, I had that issue at home... I'm not using the beerorkid repos here at the office though06:23
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tomveenshey06:24
AstralJavaRMorris85: Did the sudo apt-get update command go thru without errors this time?06:24
arnoHello, I'm using proftpd, and at last O got the port 21 open but my server still doesn't work... can anyone help me please?06:24
Jack_Sparrow839 people say , Hello and Welcome06:24
mcphailScislaC: try running the apps from the command line and seeing what errors are thrown06:24
RMorris85Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06...... apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs06:24
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AstralJavaRMorris85: Did you insert that modified /etc/apt/sources.list in the original's place?06:25
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RMorris85i thought that was the og06:25
AstralJavaRMorris85: Sounds like you still have the install cd in there, which isn't shown in the pastebin entry.06:25
slytherinRMorris85: Did you edit /etc/apt/sources.list to add/delete CD entry recently?06:25
RMorris85no06:25
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RMorris85?06:25
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ScislaCerUSUL: K... so I did that and it doesn't error or anything... I do get prompted for the password in the terminal, but it just hangs. It does the same thing visually with showing that Starting Administrative Application in the taskbar, and that exits silently... but it's just blinking on the line after I entered my password in the terminal06:26
AstralJavaRMorris85: Where in your filesystem is that file that you pasted to the pastebin?06:26
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RMorris85what is in the pastebin in whats there06:26
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Jack_Sparrow!paste06:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:26
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FRETI'm using profiles with the network-manager. Do I have to edit the .xml-file to permanently add new hosts?06:26
slytherinRMorris85: pastebin link please.06:26
AstralJavaRMorris85: :) Can't be, since there is no mention of the install cd.06:26
FRETthe new added hosts are always gone after chagning profile06:26
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zmohm... is the -k7 kernel optimized for 64bits ?06:26
cliffdquestion, I just installed ubuntu 6.06, and the kernel is 2.6.15, will it update to 2.6.17 or is that where it stays until Edgy comes out?06:26
arnocould anyone try to tell me what's wrong? ftp://88.122.245.10706:27
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RMorris85 / etc/apt/source.list06:27
slytherinzmo: what do you mean by that?06:27
Jack_Sparrowzmo: Personally, I would stick with the 68606:27
AstralJavaRMorris85: Are you sure? It should be /etc/apt/sources.list06:27
AstralJavaRMorris85: You were missing an 's' from the word 'sources'.06:27
zmowell, since I use linux I had the habit to recompile the kernel to just suit my needs06:27
gre1how do i had another hardrive after installation?06:27
cliffdJack_Sparrow: I can pick a different kernel other then then 386 one?06:28
Jack_Sparrowcliffd: yes, you can have both06:28
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slytherinzmo: For 64 bit there is only one kernel. k7 is for AMD 32 bit.06:28
zmobut having a 64bits processor, I don't know if that's a good idea to recompile in 64bits with a 32bits environment06:28
cliffdhow does one get the 686 kernel?06:28
zmoslytherin - which is ?06:28
erUSULScislaC: gksu should show a graphical dialog to enter the password06:28
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RMorris85http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2205406:28
fijamcliffd: search synaptic for 68606:28
slytherincliffd: From synaptic06:28
cliffdthanks!06:28
fijamnp06:28
Jack_Sparrownp06:28
fijamok, I'm off. Later06:29
slytherinzmo: I guess 64 bit kernel is only on 64 bit CD.06:29
ThePrettyThinghey, anybody knows where to get a GCC compiler for Ubuntu?06:29
Jack_SparrowYou guys are too fast today.. These old fingers are going to go take a break..06:29
zmoI'm sorry, but I'm switching from debian and in the mean time, I'm discovering 64bits architecture and ATI drivers06:29
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slytherinThePrettyThing: install package build-essential06:29
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ThePrettyThingslytherin: cheers.. i'll try06:30
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RMorris85i think this might work after the update06:30
RMorris85:-)06:30
zmoso I want to recompile to get at least the dual core working, and at best to have the kernel running natively as 64bits, but I don't want that if I can't have my GPU's accelleration working06:30
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AstralJavaRMorris85: Glad to hear that.06:30
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RMorris85The following packages have unmet dependencies:06:31
RMorris85  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed06:31
RMorris85E: Broken packages06:31
mr_claus_hi, i try to use tsclient to connect to my terminal server and got error while connecting06:31
RMorris85grrr06:31
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mr_claus_error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy06:31
fijam!tell user__ about repositories06:32
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fijam!repos > user__06:32
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patrick_external monitor shows blank screen using nvidia driver on xps gen 2 laptop06:32
mr_claus_Could not init font path element ..... (the font path is not in xorg.conf and it is not in the fontserver configuration)06:32
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slytherinRMorris85: You may have not included some repositories. For example, check dapper-security and dapper-update lines to see if they include all four repos.06:32
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RMorris85from the source list generator?06:33
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fijam!repos06:33
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:33
fijam!repos > user__06:33
slytherinRMorris85: If you can pint me to your pastebin entry, I may tell you properly06:33
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fijamthat's all, folks06:33
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RMorris85http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2205406:34
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ScislaCerUSUL: nope... and reinstalling the package didn't fix it either :(06:34
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arno???06:35
madman__I open kate/settings/configure kate/editor/fonts & colors/font tab/ I choose courier 10 pitch, regular, size 18. I click apply then click ok. The new font size shows in kate but it prints at a lower font size. Like it's printing at a defult setting. any help06:35
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nahojif i should upgrade to edgy, should my sources.list look like this? http://pastebin.ca/15477806:37
RMorris85slytherin: did u take a look?06:37
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slytherinRMorris85: Looking06:37
patrick_external monitor shows blank screen using nvidia driver on xps gen 2 laptop06:37
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arnohelp!!06:38
isishello06:38
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slytherinRMorris85: I don't know why you are getting this error. kdegraphics-kfile-plugins is in main repos itself06:38
orhthotheohello, i'm having problems with my locales. some debug is here: http://subshop.nu/sv-locales.png06:39
RMorris85hey should i check the kubuntu.org packages on the source-o-matic?06:39
RMorris85:-/06:39
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orhthotheothe problem with http://subshop.nu/sv-locales.png is tha"" is incorrectly displayed06:40
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RMorris85the one right past this message        All repositories below are unofficial repositories and should NOT, I       repeat NOT!, once again NOT!! be used unless you know what you are doing       VERY WELL! These are unsupported repositories with no guarantee that they       won't break your system!06:40
eetfunkhow do i disable reverse dns lookup from the command line?06:40
manuxAnyone have used the surecom ep-9428 pcmcia wireless card?06:40
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isistrying to switch from windows to ubuntu...on seperate computers..I love to use myspace have a lot of family and friends I keep in touch with and right now I am running firefox though wine but I am still having trouble with the flash.....any sugguestions??? sure would appreciate it:)06:41
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arnocan anyone help?06:41
erUSULorhthotheo: all i can advice is to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' or/and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf'06:41
orhthotheoisis: there is firefox+flash for linux too06:42
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RMorris85hey should i check the kubuntu.org packages on the source-o-matic?06:42
arnothe port 21 il open, as 'shields up' says but my server doesn't work....06:42
arnois open06:42
gravesonwhere can i find more info on edgy ?06:42
isiswhere do I find that?????06:42
orhthotheoerUSUL: yesyes, and restart X?06:42
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rofl0r_how can i add additional display resolutions to the display manager ?06:43
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orhthotheoisis: getfirefox.com ;p dpkg-reconfigure  locales06:43
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orhthotheohttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux06:43
cliffdis there a slick way of making hidd start when I boot? under system->prefs->services I dont see much of anything.06:43
isiswhat version are you talking about????06:43
erUSULorhthotheo: to be sure reboot the system ;)06:43
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rofl0r_i remember a command like xf86config, but that dont work06:44
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isisI do have flash installed but it's not keeping up with myspace and I still have trouble running it06:44
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erUSULrofl0r_: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'06:44
rofl0r_thanks06:44
slytherincliffd: Are you talking about HIDD in bluetooth?06:45
arnocan anyone help please?06:45
isiswell I think I have the newest but I'll check it again06:45
cliffdslytherin: yes.06:45
erUSULarno: have you checked the logs of the ftp server?06:46
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arnoerUSUL it says FTP response reading failed06:46
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slytherincliffd: edit file /etc/default/bluez-utils look for HIDD_ENABLED, then 'sudo /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart'06:47
arnobut erUSUL with shields up the port 21 is opened...06:47
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cliffdslytherin: thanks06:47
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quincyUbuntu is amazing!06:47
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tayirvadai_vikrahas anyone tried to setup infrared06:47
cliffdquincy: I agree06:48
tayirvadai_vikrai have a problem with it06:48
tayirvadai_vikracan anyone help me06:48
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cicahi guys06:48
PloujI tried to start a SSH server in Ubuntu server, but it says fail. Where can I check for more detailed messages? /var/log/messages doesn't show anything.06:48
Ploujanything useful, that is06:48
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redguyPlouj: /var/log/daemon06:49
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cicaI'm about to tune my Ubuntu system and I was wondering is there any way of making a complete back of the system before making any changes incase it all goes pear shaped !!06:49
Plouj/var/log/daemon appears to be empty06:49
kimo!backup06:49
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi06:49
cliffdcica: if you have the space you can ufsdump your partitoins06:49
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Plouj!ssh06:50
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/06:50
cicathanks cliffd06:50
cicaand kimo06:50
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cica!fstab06:50
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions06:50
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TheGateKeepercica: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup & also http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page06:51
arnoerUSUL do you have an idea?06:51
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AstralJavaRMorris85: Still having the problem?06:51
cicacheers GateKeeper06:51
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cicadoes anyone else have their home area on a different partition?06:52
cicain fstab?06:52
roel_cica: yep, me06:52
cicacan you explain the purpose of this roel... please06:53
tayirvadai_vikrahas anyone tried setting up infrared06:53
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predaeusHello! Has anybody managed to get a working Mic on Edgy Eft with an Audigy 4?06:53
AstralJavabrb06:53
erUSULarno: no sorry i've never used proftpd06:53
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roel_cica: when you install ubuntu over new, or install another version of ubuntu, your settings/mail/documents are not touched06:53
cicaroel_: so it's just a case of editing the fstab?06:54
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Ploujlol06:55
slytherintayirvadai_vikra: I tried once. Didn't succeed. Can't help you06:55
roel_cica: moving all the data to the new partition (with the 'dd' command for ex.) and editing fstab, yes. And rebooting :)06:55
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Ploujapparently SSHd was already started, so /etc/init.d/ssh start failed...06:55
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patrick_external monitor shows blank screen using nvidia driver on xps gen 2 laptop06:55
DJBlits.dll is for windows only..?06:55
cicaroel_: is there a name for this process (so I can google it)06:55
r0bby_DJBlits: dlls are for windows06:56
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r0bby_yes06:56
r0bby_pretty much exclusively06:56
roel_cica: hmm try googling "/home ubuntu different partition move" or something like that06:56
roel_cica: i'm having dinner now06:56
cicaroel_: thanks... enjoy06:56
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DJBlitsok ty06:57
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DJBlits:)06:58
tayirvadai_vikra<slytherin>  ok where u able to see a hardware called ird... when u execute ifconfig06:58
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eetfunkit takes about 45-60 seconds to connect to my SSH.  it used to be very fast.  Anybody has an idea?06:58
DJBlits:P06:58
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AstralJavagaim just went nuts; ate up 50+% processor time06:59
kimoeetfunk: strace ssh server & see what is taking time06:59
slytherintayirvadai_vikra: Don't remember exactly. Tried on my dad's laptop. Away from homw now06:59
eetfunkkimo: hate to ask, but how do i do that?06:59
DJBlitspff06:59
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kimoeetfunk: just like that "strace ssh server" !07:00
cliffdwhen my system shutdowns it says closing down bit tracker and printing and lvm and raid monitor. where do I control those services?07:00
eetfunkok :)07:00
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slytherincica: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/07:00
DJBlits:o07:00
RMorris85AstralJava: yes stil have the problem07:01
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mcphailcliffd: via the scripts in /etc/init.d/07:01
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kimoguys, I can run the 32 bit version on 64bit CPU with no problems, right ?07:01
gravesonwhy does installing totem-xine remove totem and ubuntu desktop ? how do i work around this ?07:01
mcphailkimo: yes07:01
eetfunkhow do i turn off reverse dns in the command line?07:02
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patrick_external monitor shows blank screen using nvidia driver on xps gen 2 laptop07:02
patrick_external monitor shows blank screen using nvidia driver on xps gen 2 laptop07:02
squeakscan anyone point me to how i can used different serverlayouts in ubuntu, i have the layouts, but can't figure out how to switch between them07:02
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cliffdmcphail: ok, I was just wondering if there was a gui front end07:02
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cicaslytherin: it says I've got to resize my current hard disk before I can do this (move home to its own partition). Is resizing the hard disk advisiable/easy to do ???07:02
DeeTahPanLtahhttp://nanobin.nanosouffle.net/1594 well,what could have happened?07:02
mcphailcliffd: /etc/init.d/service start | stop | restart etc is simple enough :)07:03
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AstralJavaRMorris85: Did you check that the file was correctly named and in the correct place?07:03
mcphailcliffd: (and there probably is a gui buried somewhere...)07:03
cliffdmcphail: yes, I agree. I just know that FC liked you to do it from there gui tool if you were running a gui. im happy with /etc/init.d07:03
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slytherincica: Where does it say so?07:04
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RMorris85yea it is sources.list07:04
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mcphailcliffd: i'm on CLI just now, but i'm sure there's an option in the gnome menus somewhere07:05
slytherincica: It is talking about new partition. No need to resize existing ones if you already have free partition.07:05
cliffdmcphail: I went to services and all I saw was cron and syslog. nothing about all the other things like cups and bit torrent tracker and raid manager07:05
cliffdthats why I was wondering if there was another area, maybe special to ubuntu where it was all kept07:06
cicaslytherin: what do u mean by free partition?07:06
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cliffdthis is going to sound stupid but how do I search in synaptic, when I click the search button and high light all, and then type something, nothing shows up.07:06
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slytherincica: I don't know how to explain. I don't understand why you need to move your /home?07:06
casparI have a problem that i can't install the new version of Ubuntu on a "old" comptuer07:07
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AstralJavaRMorris85: And when you copied the source-o-matic generated file, you're sure it replaced the earlier one?07:07
cicaslytherin: im moving it so I won't loose anything when I do upgrades fresh installs07:07
BigMonkeyHow can I mount samba shares at bootup?  These are on my subnet, and I was able to cobble together a method before.  How do I do it right?07:08
cicaslytherin: u know whatta mean?07:08
alphanautcompiz?07:08
erUSULcica: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/07:08
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redguyBigMonkey: hmm edit /etc/fstab?07:08
mcphailcliffd: there appears to be an app called "bum" in the repos.07:08
mcphail!info bum07:08
RMorris85yes for sure07:08
ubotubum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB07:08
alphanautneed help w/ compiz themer07:09
casparhow can i install Ubuntu with only the text modus ?07:09
cicaerUSUL: yeah I've seen that. But I'm stuck at this bit "First, create a partition of sufficient size for your /home directory. You may have to use that new hard drive, or adjust/resize the existing partition on your current hard-drive to do this. Let me skip those details."07:09
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slytherincica: Upgrades don't touch your home directory. For fresh install I don't know what to do.07:09
casparbecouse i still run warty on that computer, but i want to upgrade it to Dapper07:09
cliffdmcphail: looking. thanks.07:09
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cicaerUSUL: how do I create this partition ^^^ ?07:09
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AstralJavaRMorris85: Then I cannot  understand why that is happening to you. My only suggestion is to try the se. country code, which I am using. It seems to work for me. If that doesn't help, I must apologize and admit I cannot help anymore. :)07:10
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alphanautcdwgthemer and compiz? anyone?07:10
synicalphanaut: be more specific07:11
casparcan annyone help me?07:11
cliffdif I add the universal repository to my synaptic is that bad? should I add it when I need something and then remove it or can I just leave it there... the universal wont over wright and update packages from the default repository will it?07:11
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alphanautsynic, I have problems w/ applying themes in compiz07:11
redguyBigMonkey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1230607:11
slytherincliffd: It is not bad at all.07:12
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synicalphanaut: I gathered that much07:12
BigMonkeyredguy - Well, I'm way beyond that.  Do you know of a how-to?  As it is, i was creating mount points in the root directory, but I had to be the owner of the link.07:12
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mcphailRMorris85: sometimes running "sudo apt-get install -f" followed by "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" cures problems07:12
erUSULcica: with gparted from a livecd shrink a partition with enugh free space and make a new one on that space07:12
alphanautIs CGWD Themer a themer for compiz?07:12
BigMonkeyredguy - Thanks, looking.07:12
anthonyI have a separate partition mounted within my Home folder and I't like to give it the same priviledges as my home folder.  how do I do this?07:12
cliffdslytherin: thanks. coming from FC some of the available repos would over right system packages. it was bad07:12
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synicalphanaut: yeah07:13
mcphailcliffd: the standard repos are ok. Beware of things like the compiz/beerorkid repos, though.07:13
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slytherincliffd: In ubuntu, universe repositories held completely different packages that main.07:13
alphanautsynic, but theres no "apply"-button in version 0.6607:13
redguyBigMonkey: why would you make mountpoints in the root dir? /media is a far better location07:13
synicalphanaut: it just changes on the fly07:13
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alphanautsynic, not for me07:13
cliffdmcphail, slytherin: thanks.07:13
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synicalphanaut: are you even running cgwd?07:14
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synicalphanaut: killall gnome-window-decorator && cgwd07:14
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alphanautsynic, aha...07:14
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byteshackanyone here using FreeNX?07:14
cicaerUSUL: that sounds pretty complex. think i might be better off just leaving it ???07:14
dredhammerhello i have a problem my dvd playback no longer works in dapper i don't know why mplayer plays a dvd for a bit and then quits with no explanation and the default movie player can't play it07:14
StoneNotebyteshack, I've used it07:14
dredhammeralso nautilus shows the dvd disc as being empty07:15
byteshackdo you guys notice issues with firefox when running under nx?07:15
chellHi07:15
StoneNotebyteshack, nope07:15
chellI'm havuing problems with my audio device07:15
mcphailbyteshack: no07:15
byteshacktabs seem to be locked up while any of them is loading07:15
slytherindredhammer: Have you installed libdvdcss?07:15
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alphanautsynic, well, that help :D thx ^^07:15
synicnp07:15
tomveensi've got a project, it's bit messy now, but you can look at some at http://openmedia.tomveens.nl07:15
dredhammeryes it shows up in synaptic as being installed07:15
chellbefore I plugged in my headphone and installed skype everyhing was fine07:15
byteshackif I try to open things in a tab on nx, the browser hangs07:15
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dredhammereven did apt-get07:15
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dredhammerits there07:15
tomveenshope you''ll leave comment07:15
mshiltonjI'm having a memory problem somewhere on a particular machine running ubuntu as a desktop machine. After about 4-5 days of uptime, it seems all the memory is used up. I close all apps, restart x, etc, but the memory is still not freed.  Top and ps don't show any large-memory processes. So far, I have to resort to restarting the machine.07:16
byteshackthis does not happen on the serve, but only when connecting to it via nx07:16
chellnow I don't get sound in frozen-bubble and other games anymore (it says that there has been no audio deive found)07:16
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byteshackweird07:16
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StoneNotebyteshack, I have two browsers open each with multiple tabs right now. no problems. no hangs.07:16
mshiltonjhas something like this been seen before? google doesn't have much.07:16
brucedesI want to do a non-destructive partition of my drive using qparted, how can I do this? At the moment the resize option is greyed out...07:16
slytherin!tell dredhammer about dvd07:16
erUSULcica: if you are unsure, yes better live it. messing with hardrives and partitions is risky bussines even if you know what you are doing07:16
chellI can listen to music using rythmbox though07:16
byteshackdo you use compression?07:16
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alphanauthow do I replace the gnome-window-decorator w/ cwgd, synic ?07:16
byteshackI'm wondering if it's because I have to use SSL07:16
StoneNotebyteshack, compression and encryption are on07:16
byteshackdarn07:16
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synicalphanaut: how are you starting compiz?07:17
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StoneNotebyteshack, how fast is the server you are on and what type of load is it under?07:17
byteshackI woudn't even have a clue on how to debug this07:17
IndyBCHello. Is there any plugin/extension/addon for XMMS in order for it to support unicode?07:17
byteshackserver is not doing anything07:17
cicaerUSUL: thanks for the advice07:17
alphanautthefuture07:17
chell!has anyone got an idea07:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about has anyone got an idea - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:17
byteshackthings work OK if I go through vnc07:17
synicIndyBC: you might try beep-media-player instead, I think it supports unicode07:17
chellwhat I can do to resolve these issues?07:17
erUSULcica: n problem07:17
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IndyBCsynic: Thanks, but I don't really want to change xmms ;)07:18
StoneNotebyteshack, there are tools that are included with nx but I've never used them to resolve a latency issue.07:18
gary4garcan anyone hep me connecting my nokia phone in linux??07:18
synicIndyBC: it's pretty much xmms only ported to gtk2.07:18
byteshackbut if I try to load a "big" page on a tab, then the browser hangs07:18
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IndyBCsynic: ok07:18
byteshackbut not the whole nx connection07:18
IndyBCsynic: thanks :)07:18
StoneNotebyteshack, there is a channel called #nx you might ask there07:18
alphanautsynic, now i got it.. thx07:18
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byteshackah... I'll move my questions there07:18
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brucedesalso, does anyone know a good m4a codec for using in banshee?07:19
StoneNotebyteshack, good luck07:19
byteshackthanks07:19
synicbrucedes: maybe gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg07:19
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brucedesi shall try it07:19
synicbrucedes: it might also be in gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad07:20
AsadRis there any application in ubuntu that can show a realtime graph of the bandwidth being used on my network interfaces?07:20
synicI haven't had much luck with the m4as....07:20
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gary4garcan anyone hep me connecting my nokia 6020 in ubuntu????07:20
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BigMonkeyredguy - You're right.  I should make them there, but I was accommodating users that got confused when the mountpoints were not in the root. They wanted the system to behave like our unix system when they were logged in.07:21
slytherinbyteshack: banshee uses gstreamer, so you will need to install ugly-multiverse plugins for gstreamer07:21
redguyBigMonkey: still, you should make the mountpoints in /media and provide symlinks in root IMHO07:21
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slytherinbrucedes: banshee uses gstreamer, so you will need to install ugly-multiverse plugins for gstreamer07:21
cliffdany one know where this bit torrent tracker is getting started?07:22
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gary4garhey 853 people here atleast someone should know my problem07:22
gary4garpls07:22
slytheringary4gar: Connecting using what?07:22
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BigMonkeyredguy - I will make them there on this machine.  But, in that page, there is a reference to cifsexec. What is that?  I'm looking to mount samba shares, is that right?07:22
gary4garcan anyone hep me connecting my nokia 6020 in ubuntu????07:22
gary4garslytherin07:23
cicabye guys07:23
brucedesgary, how? bluetooth? USB?07:23
gary4garusb07:23
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gary4gari got dku-5 cable also07:23
jikutyhm, I wonder how i can tell which ethernet card model# is in my old pc :/07:23
brucedesshouldn't it appear as a usb drive?07:23
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brucedesI wouldn't know, I use bluetooth07:23
jikutyxubuntu refuses to recognize that it is indeed a card07:23
cliffdjikuty: lspci07:23
lanecI need help setting up WPA 2 in Ubuntu 6.0607:23
lanecfor an Intel 2100b network card07:23
gary4garwhere should i check <brucedes>07:24
laneccan anyone help?07:24
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brucedeshmm07:24
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Redrose!screen07:24
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen07:24
Redrose!resolution07:24
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:24
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gary4gar<brucedes>:i just plugged the phone but nothin happened!07:24
mikeyI'm pretty new to ubuntu, and I'm trying to install ndiswrapper, I found a tutorial on the forums, but when I execute "sudo make", it errors saying that "gcc-3.4" command does not exist ("gcc --version" tells me I have 4.0.2)... Can anybody help?07:25
brucedeshttp://www.kmobiletools.org/node/13507:25
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brucedeshttp://www.kmobiletools.org/ even07:25
slytherinlanec: Did you try using wpa_supplicant or network-manager?07:25
ladydoormikey: you need to go to the repositories in synaptic and install gcc-3.407:25
ladydoormikey: also, does ubuntu's version of ndiswrapper not work for you?07:26
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Gumby600mI want gkrellm (system monitor) in a panel using Ubuntu Dapper with Gnome... but I can't figure out how to add gkrellm to the panel.  It acts like a standalone program...07:26
gary4gar<brucedes>: he is talkinh about the sms deleting feature not about connecting it07:26
lanecslytherin: no I haven't tried either07:26
slytherinmikey: Why ndiswrapper? which card?07:26
brucedeshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22057 *sigh* When I enabled multiverse07:26
brucedesgary4gar, the second link will be more help07:26
mikeyI did a search for gcc in synaptic, and could only find 4.xx and 3.3, will those do?07:26
lanechow do I use wpa_supplicant? can I get Network-manager with apt-get?07:26
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mikeyAnd I wasnt sure if ndiswrapper was already installed, apt-get said it wasn't07:26
gary4garbrucedes, i will try & then tell07:27
lanecsorry if I respond slowly I think I may have bleach in my eye and its really messed up07:27
mikeyAnd slytherin, it's a Belkin F5D7050 USB07:27
ladydoormikey: right, but there's a version of it in synaptic you can install instead07:27
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mikeyOh I see07:27
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slytherinlanec: install wpagui and network-manager from apt-get07:27
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brucedesYou could also in theory use wine to install the nokia phone software, but I doubt they'll interact well together07:27
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asdfjkli'm wanting to delete the first (or last) couple seconds of mp3 files anyone know an app to do that?07:27
gary4garbrucedes, u are talkinh about this na!07:28
gary4garhttp://www.kmobiletools.org/node/10907:28
redondo81Hi to everyoneition , can you tell me how can I mount a fat32 partition please?07:28
mikeyladydoor, I did a search and got, "ndiswrapper-utils", will those be okay, or am I looking for something more specific?07:28
gary4garsecond link??07:28
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lanecokay I will do so now07:28
lanecthanks07:28
brucedeshttp://www.kmobiletools.org07:28
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jikutyhm, lspci lists the modem that's in this pc (56k), but doesnt list my ethernet card :/07:28
Gumby600mHow does one add GKrellm to a vertical gnome panel?07:28
naaanyone here use the gimp?07:29
ladydoormikey: i think that's it07:29
mikeyOh, it is07:29
mikey=)07:29
asdfjkli'm wanting to delete the first (or last) couple seconds of mp3 files anyone know an app to do that?07:29
redondo81Can anyone help me to mount a fat32 partition?07:29
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mikeyladydoor, Thanks a bunch, and sorry I didn't see it myself :P07:29
brucedeshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22057 any idea why I get this after enabling multiverse downloads in sources.list?07:29
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Jack_Sparrowredondo81: diskmounter script07:29
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cliffdanyone know how to get gaim 2.0 beta from synaptic?07:29
ladydoormikey: np07:29
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AsadRis there any application in ubuntu that can show a realtime graph of the bandwidth being used on my network interfaces?07:30
slytherin!windows07:30
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm07:30
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redondo81and how does it work?07:30
slytherin!ntfs07:30
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:30
slytherinredondo81: Check the link by ubotu07:30
Jack_Sparrowredondo81:  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop07:30
ZajjkoHeya, I'm having some trouble with my webcam and the UVC-drivers. Now, this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1410472 has an installation-guide and says that it shoudl work with Logitech QuickCam Pro 5000. However, I have tried to no avail. Could anyone check my reply in the thread and see if anything coul dbe done?07:30
redondo81ok,thanks07:30
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_azraelasdfjkl: audacity07:31
testeE AIAIIAIA07:32
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testeFUNCIOAN MESMO ESSE UBUNTU07:32
Jack_Sparrow!it07:32
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:32
predaeusHello! Has anybody managed to get a working Mic on Edgy Eft with an Audigy 4?07:32
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_azrael!offtopic > predaeus07:33
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testeSI IO PARLO ITALIANO07:33
_azrael!it > teste07:33
predaeus_azrael is there an edgy channel?07:33
_azraelpredaeus: Yes. #ubuntu+107:33
testePERCHE07:33
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predaeus_azrael: k thx.07:33
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asdfjkl_azrael thx, will give it a try07:34
ladydoormikey: also, i did an apt-cache search and gcc-3.4 does exist in the repositories :-)07:34
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mikeyOh, awesome =)07:34
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mikeyI just did a regular search =(07:35
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synd3Hi. I'm getting this error when I sudo apt-get update: http://pastebin.ca/15484607:35
synd3How can I fix that?07:35
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gravesonwhy have my scripts stopped working with this error : ./dvdauthor-script: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'07:36
ompaulsynd3, talk to the people who run http://repository.debuntu.org07:36
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Jack_Sparrowsynd3: It is telling you to run sudo apt-get update when you run sudo apt-get update?07:36
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synd3Jack_Sparrow: Yes07:37
NickGarveyif I go to compile my kernel, will all of the configuration that ubuntu puts in by default be there?07:37
_azraelgraveson: There are two ways to debug that. The first is to put up the script somewhere, the second is to try to figure out what you changed between it working and not working.07:37
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Jack_Sparrowsynd3: see ompaul's suggestion07:37
ompaulsynd3, I don't know what you expect to get there, however I would like to point out that installing random bits of software may break your ubuntu in new and interesting ways07:37
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_lupineNickGarvey: run mke oldconfig first07:37
_lupinemake*07:37
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NickGarvey_lupine: and that will load the config file?07:37
Jack_Sparrowompaul: agreed07:38
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synd3ompaul: I don't expect anything. I'm not the one who did the sources.list on this machine07:38
_lupineNickGarvey: should do07:38
_lupineit'll get it from /boot or /proc07:38
Jack_Sparrow!easysource07:38
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:38
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NickGarvey_lupine: thanks a lot07:38
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_lupine(assuming it's there  but it should be)07:38
synd3ompaul: I just would like to know how to get rid of the annoying error message07:38
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gary4garbrucedes,07:39
Jack_Sparrowsynd3: I'd start by rebuilding the repo list07:39
gary4garmy phone is not deteched!07:39
Jack_Sparrowsynd3: assuming you are using Ubuntu and not another os07:39
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gary4garJack_Sparrow, can u help07:40
synd3Which sources shall I pick to keep from being broken (on that list)07:40
_RCcan someone tell me why my apps disapear into the gnome panel, and cannot be seen?07:40
gary4gari need to connect my nokia 6020 via usb07:40
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asdfjkl_azrael: how can i crop the first 3 secs using audacity?07:40
gary4garJack_Sparrow,07:40
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_RCcan someone tell me why my apps disapear into the gnome panel, and cannot be seen?07:41
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Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: Sorry, I had to answer the door07:41
_RCdoes anyone know?07:41
Doomdebahand i'm back again.07:41
Jack_SparrowI dont do phones07:41
gary4garok can u help me Jack_Sparrow07:41
philosophyNrockanybody know how to setup up a network printer? i'm having a hell of a time07:41
synd3Is backports OK?07:41
AsadRis it possible to build a ubuntu-server system from an existing Ubuntu Desktop system?07:41
_RCmuch help would be appreciated07:41
gravesonthanks07:42
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gary4garohh thats bad Jack_Sparrow07:42
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_azraelasdfjkl: Select the first 30 seconds of the song by dragging across it.07:42
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_azraelasdfjkl: Press ctrl-x.07:42
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_azraelSave the song in the desired format.07:42
DoomdebahI need a little help installing a video card driver, I do believe i need to be in run level 3 to do this07:42
Doomdebahand i don't know how to get into run level 307:43
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Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: brb07:43
asdfjkl_azrael, the cut command is grayed out07:43
gary4garacctully i am kinda disapponted every time i come there my problem is not solved, i am not blaming anyone but it does feel bad07:43
D-Man`anyone installed ubuntu on a machine partioned with OSX ?07:43
asdfjklnevermind07:43
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_azraelasdfjkl: Did you select part of the song first?07:43
gary4gar:(07:43
ladydoorsynd3: backports are generally ok; they're not officially supported, though, because it's volunteers maintaining them and making these packages that are slightly more bleeding-edge than ubuntu's default repos07:43
ladydoorsynd3: so do be careful, too :-)07:43
gary4garladydoor, can u hep??07:43
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ladydoorgary4gar: with what?07:43
asdfjkl_azrael: i got it to work07:44
asdfjklthank you!07:44
gary4gari need to connect my phone nokia07:44
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gary4garwith ubuntu07:44
gary4garvia USB07:44
ladydoorgary4gar: sorry...i don't know anything about cellphones07:44
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ladydoorgary4gar: good luck, though07:44
_lupinegary4gar: very much depends on your phone07:44
gary4garok:( but do u know is who can help me07:45
DoomdebahLady, do you know anything about the installation of Nvidia drivers? i can give you the exact file i have downloaded.07:45
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synd3ladydoor: Thank you07:45
gary4gari am kinda very much disapponted07:45
_lupinethe general method would be to make sure your phone has a serial device in /dev somewhere , then set up ppp through it07:45
synd3ompaul, Jack_Sparrow: Thanks as well07:45
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Jack_Sparrownp07:45
_lupineGoogle knows all, in these situations07:45
Jack_SparrowSorry had to move my truck07:45
gary4gar:(07:45
ladydoorsynth7: np07:45
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Jack_Sparrowgary4gar: I would not know where to start other than lsusb07:46
mikeyladydoor, Do you use wifi yourself/have experience? I have a 5 letter passphrase for my network, but iwconfig doesn't seem to like "iwconfig wlan0 key xxxxx"07:46
gary4gari did lsusb jack07:46
_lupineyou didn't expect to be breast-fed all your life did you, gary4gar ? Look on it as a learning exercise, and once you've worked it out you could always write a HowTo for other users like yourself07:46
DoomdebahIt comes with the directions on the site, which i do have up, but it has references to several different versions of linux.07:46
mikeyOh. Woops. Sorry I just read the manpage.07:47
mikey=(07:47
ladydoormikey: i do use ndiswrapper, but i've never been in a network with a password (i use public networks). sorry07:47
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ladydoormikey: oh, cool07:47
ladydoorthat's even better :-)07:47
Doomdebahand actually, i would be quite pleased if some one could just tell me what menus or comand prompts i should be going through to find out my Ubuntu version.07:47
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gary4gar_lupine, i do will write something,07:47
DoomdebahI need to learn this system eventually.07:47
ladydoorDoomdebah: less /etc/lsb-release07:48
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ladydoorDoomdebah: in a terminal07:48
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IndyBCWhere can I find a systray plugin for Beep Music Player?07:48
_lupineor cat07:48
_lupine(which is cuter)07:48
Doomdebahawesome. One last quick question, what does SUSE stand for?07:48
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ladydoor_lupine: yeah it is!07:48
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_lupineDoomdebah: something to do with the university that build it to begin with, I think07:49
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Doomdebahahh.07:49
_lupine...but don't quote me on that07:49
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aboI had to kill synaptic in a middle of an install, now it says that it cannot run because it's already running07:50
mr_smeega1how do i create a pgp signature07:50
elmargolDoomdebah:  Software Und SystemEntwicklung [distribution]  (Linux), "S.u.S.E."07:50
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aboany one knows how can I clear lock set by synaptic?07:51
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_lupineSoftware and System ... ?07:51
Doomdebahso a SuSE Linux version is unrelated to my Ubuntu module?07:51
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_lupineDoomdebah: probably07:51
Doomdebahand thus the directions i have are useless to me?07:51
Jack_Sparrowhopefully07:51
kling0nkibadock looks like fun :)07:51
Doomdebahlovely.07:51
joltTheres no daily live build for Edgy today?07:51
_lupine(kernel versions will have some equivalence)07:51
mr_smeega1how do i export a pgp signature07:51
elmargolSoftware Und SystemEntwicklung <- Software and SystemDevelopment (distribution)07:51
kling0nmischat07:51
_lupineall depends on what you're trying to do07:51
_lupineah, thanks :)07:52
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kishoremplayer not installing07:52
BigMonkeyredguy - thanks for the suggestion with /media.  Old solutions have better successors.  Works fine now07:52
_lupineI understood "und", and two of the three remaining were fairly simple ;)07:52
Doomdebahtrying to install an Nvidia driver so i can play my games *nods*07:52
kishorehi07:52
Jack_Sparrow!nvidia07:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:52
DoomdebahCity of Villians won't run without an updated driver.07:52
kishoremplayer not  installing07:52
Jack_SparrowDoomdebah: what nvidia card07:52
Doomdebahahh!07:52
elmargol_lupine: wenn i speak german italien and a bit english :D so no problem for me07:52
jolttrying to get a USB audio device to work....07:52
elmargol-wenn07:53
DoomdebahI love you, a Geforce 207:53
joltIts detected, but it wont add it as an avalible driver07:53
_lupinemerci :)07:53
Doomdebahforget what exact one it is.07:53
Jack_SparrowDoomdebah: Did you read ths linked info here?07:53
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joltHow do i get ALSA to see the device?07:53
RugHowdy all.  I just bought an iRivier mp3 player.  When I plug it in it doesn't appear in dmesg.  If I do an lsusb I get: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 4102:1119 iRiver, Ltd. but I have no /dev/sdx to mount it.07:53
DoomdebahI'm about to read it07:53
Jack_Sparrow!alsa07:53
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems07:53
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philosophyNrocki desperately need help installing a network printer07:55
Jack_Sparrow!cups07:55
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:55
TheGateKeeperjolt: has the wrong device driver been installed, or has it not installed a device driver?07:55
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bubu1uk!mp307:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:55
philosophyNrocki've tried every other help u guys have, and nothing is working07:56
DoomdebahI downloaded the... Linux Display Driver - IA3207:56
Doomdebah Version: 1.0-876207:56
DoomdebahOperating System: Linux IA32 ahh! easy to use directions07:56
Doomdebahthis link makes me happy07:56
Rugbubu1uk: Was that directed at me?07:56
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Jack_Sparrowgood07:56
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synthjetphi.N.rock: try "printtool" which is apt-get away07:56
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philosophyNrocksynthjet: can i use synaptic to get that?07:57
Gele^BNCifconfig eth0 stop07:57
Gele^BNCstop: Host name lookup failure07:57
Gele^BNCwhy?07:57
dan__has anyone encountered the 'could not calculate the upgrade' error?07:57
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Redrose!kernel07:57
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:57
synthjetphi.N.rock: yes, printtool worked for me to hook upto my network printer.. it has most of the printesrs listed to get connected to07:58
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Masqyhi all, does some of you watch live TV of the format WMV3 and manage to see the video (and not just hear the sound)?07:58
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Hoodyhi07:58
philosophyNrocksynthjet: ok thanks07:58
Redrosedoes anyone here have a toshiba laptop which they run linux on?07:58
Jack_Sparrowsynthjet: Why would printtool wnat to remove my ubuntu-desktop07:58
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Linuturk_codeRedrose, yes07:58
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synthjetRedrose: yup07:58
RedroseLinuturk_code, What Type?07:58
RedroseWhat type?07:58
Linuturk_codeRedrose, R15-S82207:58
dan__Anyone else having trouble updating from breezy to dapper?07:58
Jack_Sparrowlots of people07:59
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npsterI remember when using Knoppix there was this program to monitor your IP traffic. What is the program for that in Ubuntu ?07:59
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synthjetJack: hmmn you could go ahead.. it wont damage your gnome.. I read that it just removes the link or something.. anybody else help?07:59
Hoodyhow do i change filetype association?07:59
bbrazilnpster: bmon, ntop, iptraf, tcpdump, tethereal, etherape07:59
Rugnpster: jnettop08:00
synthjetJack: Satellite Pro M35X08:00
RedroseCause i have a satalite a105 and I was wondering if you had to recompile the kernel to get support for the Fn key and monitor brightness?08:00
dan__I can't get my wireless card to work, so i thought i'd update everything and get dapper but that doesn't owrk either08:00
npsterOK tnx08:00
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DoomdebahO.o amd that dodn't work.08:00
Redrosedan__, what card?08:00
philosophyNrockdarn you, 20kpbs!08:00
Jack_Sparrowdan__: No way to account for all the ways people customize their systems...08:00
Doomdebahwait no... never mind08:00
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Top_GEARDoes the directory /etc/sysconfig exists in ubuntu?08:00
dan__phoebe oct11G-pci08:00
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synthjetRedrose: for my M35X, I didnt have to..08:00
Jack_Sparrowsynthjet: I will avoid that for now, just wanted to look at it.. not having any problems, but always looking for good solutions08:01
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DougDanteHi I booted 6.06 Ubuntu and it's stuck in 640x480 mode.  The GUI interface only allows me to select that mode.  The /var/log/Xorg.0.log file shows a bunch of "hsync out of range" errors, but I have been in 800x600 or 1024x768 plenty of times with Windows XP and Fedora Core 4 and 5.  I can't edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  Is there a way to fix this?08:01
Redrosesynthjet, how dod you get support?08:01
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gre1why wont it let me acess my debian hardrive from ubuntuu?08:01
mompehello08:01
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synthjetRedrose: reg Fn key? it just worked on the fly! am using dapper08:01
jribgre1: did you mount it?08:02
RugDougDante: why can't you edit xorg.conf?   did you try:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ?08:02
Redroseme too... and it doesn't work on the fly08:02
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gre1im trying to08:02
mompewhy do I have to recompile NVIDIA driver each time I boot? It works after compiling but when I reboot it doesn't work until I compile it again :(08:02
andrewyi'm trying to help a friend with ubuntu.. it was working fine for a while, but he said the sound just stopped working and i can't figure out why. /proc/asound/pcm and /proc/asound/card0 exist, but amixer doesnt show a pcm or master device. he has a soundblaster 24bit. anyone have any ideas?08:02
gre1but itwont let me08:02
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Redrosebut i know their is a program called fnfxd but it won't support my laptop08:02
ladydoorDougDante: though you should instead do sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:02
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slaxyhi guys... i was about to install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu .. i just want to clarify that... i would be able to shift to gnome and KDE whenever i wish.... [i used to do this with slackware with xconfig command(i guess)]  ...08:02
jribgre1: what command are you using?  what error are you getting?  what filesystem does it use?08:02
ladydoorRug: sudo nano -w, maybe?08:02
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Rugmompe: are you upgrading the kernel between boots?08:02
gre1im using the disk manager08:02
synthjetRedrose: tried apt-getting toshutils?08:03
Linuturk_codeRedrose, my brightness keys work fine out of the box in dapper08:03
ladydoorslaxy: you should have an option to log into either08:03
DougDanteOK, dumb mistake.  Wasn't root by default.08:03
Linuturk_codesynthjet, toshiba utils are in the repos?08:03
Rugladydoor: I alias'd "nano -w" so long ago I forgot about that08:03
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mompeRug: nope, just installed last version and uninstalled ubuntu's nvidia-glx08:03
slaxyladydoor: if u let me know how... that would be help08:03
synthjetLinuturk: yes it is "toshutils"08:03
ladydoorRug: oh! lol. yeah, i didn't bother to alias it, because i use emacs08:03
Jack_Sparrowmompe: Where did you get the nvidia drivers you are using?08:03
yukonhoHi everyone - I'm trying to install Scilab (from the binary on their website) and it asks that I put the tar.gz file in the directory where I want to install it.  What is the default directory for programs like this?08:03
jribgre1: ok, what error are you getting?  what filesystem does it use?08:03
Redrose required kernel toshiba support not enabled.08:04
gre1whats the comand to let me acess my hardrive partition08:04
mompeJack_Sparrow: From the official page of NVIDIA08:04
Redroseit's just ignoring the fn key08:04
ladydoorslaxy: you should get a gdm/kdm login screen. there should be an option to select what session you want to use somewhere on that screen, i think (someone correct me if i'm wrong)08:04
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ladydoorslaxy: and the "session" is just their word for "window manager or desktop environment"08:04
Redrose!laptop08:04
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org08:04
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RugHowdy all.  I just bought an iRivier mp3 player.  When I plug it in it doesn't appear in dmesg.  If I do an lsusb I get: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 4102:1119 iRiver, Ltd. but I have no /dev/sdx to mount it.08:04
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philosophyNrocksynthjet: ok so i downloaded printtool, now what08:05
Jack_Sparrowmompe: Did you ever try to read the Ubuntu nvidia help section08:05
gre1whats the comand to let me acess another partition?08:05
jribgre1: mount08:05
slaxyladydoor: even i was guessing the same... but i feel that gdm and kdm are 2 different things.. and have to  enable them to run each windows manager....08:05
mompeJack_Sparrow: Nope, I didn't but this should work as it works on every linux distribution... I use gentoo normally I will read it08:05
yukonho_What is the default installation directory for programs?08:05
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Jack_Sparrow!ati08:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:06
synthjetPhil.N.Rock: you are trying to connect to network printer right? just launch the printtool from shell08:06
mompeOk i will try again with binary drivers08:06
jribyukonho_: /usr/bin for binaries I guess08:06
Jack_Sparrowmompe: Obviously not EVERY linux distribution08:06
gre1it wont let me mount the partion i want08:06
joltOops guess ALSA doesnt see my USB audio08:06
philosophyNrocksynthjet: ok. where does printtool install to? i couldnt find it on a filesystem search08:06
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ladydoorslaxy: yeah...i don't really know how that works, since i uninstalled both and boot to a terminal (and use none of the ubuntu DEs as my default) and then use startx. sorry08:07
jribgre1: I'm trying to help you but you aren't answering my questions08:07
Aman!restricted08:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:07
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philosophyNrocksynthjet:or do i just type "printtool" into the shell?08:07
NickGarveymy computer freezes on "Waiting for root file system" and then it throws me back to a shell, what might cause this?08:07
yukonho_I read on the forums that the Scilab in the multiverse was pretty messed up, so I thought I'd try the binary from their website08:07
synthjetphil.N.rock: just press F2, and enter printtool or at the shell08:07
deflux-IS there an easy way to parse the URL from javascript to get the various URL "search" parameters?08:07
gre1what questions?08:07
jribyukonho_: use /opt for that08:07
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deflux-so ?bah=boo, then in javascript, I can find a way to get the value of bah?08:07
mompeJack_Sparrow: ok, it was just a relief :p08:07
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slaxyladydoor: well even im a bit confused on this... anyway thx for your help :)08:08
jribgre1: what errors you are getting and what filesystem the partition uses08:08
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philosophyNrocksynthjet: ok it says i need ncpfs. i'm gonna download it08:08
DJBlitsokay, someone get help me, so yes plz private chat!08:08
deflux-nevermind.  :)08:08
gre1its an ext308:08
W9ZEB-Larsis there a way to improve the graphics performance in X, with the integrated intel video card on Dapper?08:08
Doomdebah.... that was bloody simple08:08
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Doomdebahthank you all again08:08
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DJBlitsokay, someone get help me, so yes plz private chat!08:08
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jribgre1: does the Disks dialog give you some kind of error when you press enable?08:08
jrib!ask08:09
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:09
gre1it dont give me an error it just wont mount it08:09
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: Get a real video cand and not a built in driver08:09
Jack_Sparrowcard08:09
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W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: on a laptop, that's not going to happen.08:09
FerramentapennaCan someone help me with a scanner?08:09
DoomdebahHope i don't see you all again, because well that means i have more problems.08:09
andrewydon't intel cards have free drivers?08:09
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DJBlitsi got installed soldat for windows on linux, the problem is: how i can open an .lnk file?08:09
DJBlitsi got installed soldat for windows on linux, the problem is: how i can open an .lnk file?08:09
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: decent answer08:09
DJBlitsi got installed soldat for windows on linux, the problem is: how i can open an .lnk file?08:09
andrewyoh, laptop08:09
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Linuturk_codemy intel card works out of the box with 3d support in dapper (intergrated)08:09
jribgre1: is there an "Access Path" set?08:09
W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: if It was a desktop, I'd agree with you 100%08:09
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: THings like that are good to know up front.. :)08:09
DJBlitsi got installed soldat for windows on linux, the problem is: how i can open an .lnk file?08:10
DJBlitsi got installed soldat for windows on linux, the problem is: how i can open an .lnk file?08:10
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jrib!repeat > DJBlits08:10
W9ZEB-LarsLinuturk_code: it's possible that it's just google earth that's strange.08:10
DJBlitsyeah?08:10
gre1no but i tried setting it to /media/hda808:10
tomveensinterested?08:10
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars:  Other that that, adding ram helps...08:10
jribgre1: does /media/hda8 exist?08:10
FerramentapennaI'm trying to use a plustek 9636t scanner, can anyone help?08:10
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: What speed is the lappy and how much ram do you have now08:10
W9ZEB-LarsLinuturk_code: Jack_Sparrow: running 1024mb of DDR333, intel Pentium M 1.7ghz08:10
joltTheGateKeeper Not installed a device driver (ext USB audio).. Supposedly the device supports the generic class USB audio set08:10
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gre1no08:10
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: decent hardware.08:11
tuxtuxciao08:11
Linuturk_codeW9ZEB-Lars, that's about what I got08:11
jribgre1: you have to create the mount point first, in a terminal you can do: sudo mkdir /media/hda808:11
yukonho_Has anyone had a successful experience with Scilab?08:11
W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: it's mostly in Google Earth,  Zooming in and out, the window get's very strange.08:11
jribyukonho_: yes08:11
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synthjetyukonho: I had got scilab via apt-get or synaptic08:11
tomcatt!ubotu backups08:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about backups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:11
W9ZEB-Larss/get's/gets08:11
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: are you running vesa or real video driver?08:12
jribyukonho_: in the bug report for the font problem there is a workaround so you can use the repo version without the font problem08:12
gre1jrib: thnx it works now08:12
tomcatt!ubotu backups08:12
W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: let me check.08:12
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: please dont be S308:12
jribgre1: np08:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about backups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:12
tomcatt!ubotu backup08:12
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi08:12
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Jack_Sparrow!backup08:12
yukonho_jrib: So, should I use the one in the repo? Is that the gtk version?08:12
W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: looks like i81008:12
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grodiusCan someone link me to the newest repositories08:12
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Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: You have the driver installed ok?08:12
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jribyukonho_: I don't think it is the gtk version08:13
yukonho_jrib: And where do I find the bug report for it?08:13
jrib!bug08:13
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com08:13
W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: appears to be.  Since google earth for linux is still in beta, I suspect that's more likely the problem.08:13
Wavesonicshi08:13
jribyukonho_: if you can't find it there ^, just ping me and I'll see if I can find it again08:13
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W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: it's just that's the only 3d like application I have installed, or a reason to use.08:13
ladydoorgrodius: do you mean the backports?08:13
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Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: g/e works great for me on nvidia08:13
WavesonicsI'm trying to get Ubuntu up and running and am having some trobule w\ my gfx card, think u could could help me?08:13
nandaySorry for barging in. I'm a Newsforge writer, researching a story. Would anyone be willing to comment publicly on the civility on Ubuntu's forums and Ubuntu's sense of direction compared to Debian's?08:14
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jribWavesonics: what trouble are you having?08:14
Jamminpotato!pastebin>jamminpotato08:14
W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: alright.  I'll do a bit of research on the i810 driver and see if there's something I can do to improve it's performance.08:14
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: have you run glxgears -printfps?08:14
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Vanmanlo all08:14
WavesonicsI used apt-get to get the restricted drivers, i'm pretty sure they are all installed now, but my refresh rate is still crap, and i dont have nay option other then 60hz08:14
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WavesonicsI have an ATI08:14
ladydoorhello!08:14
makihello08:15
jrib!fixres > Wavesonics08:15
W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: just shy of 400fps08:15
Jack_Sparrowewww...08:15
W9ZEB-Larswell, 400-60008:15
joltWave.. might have to get down and dirty and actually edit the xorg.conf yourself08:15
FerramentapennaNanday:  The Ubuntu community is very helpful and friendly to newer users, and we hope to release a end-user ready system before too long.08:15
makii have noob question, how to remove *.deb files? dpkg -r ?08:15
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ladydoor!backports > grodius08:15
Wavesonicsi tried that and broke xorg 3 times now lol08:15
jribWavesonics: I think you can use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to set a custom refresh rate but the wiki should explain more08:15
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: fyi my 6600 nvidia gets 5000+08:15
DJBlitsladydoor hello!08:15
DJBlitsm08:15
philosophyNrocksynthjet: it says no drivers match my printer, although it does autodetect the printer now.  i have the ppd driver file for my printer and i got it from my cd. is there a way i can put it in the printtool folder so it will recognize the driver?08:15
DJBlitsladydoor hello!08:15
DJBlitsmladydoor hello!08:15
DJBlitsm08:15
DJBlitssorry08:15
W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: same on my 5950 Ultra08:15
DJBlitsnot for u08:15
smorning_Hi all,  I am trying to install Dapper server on am IBM xseries 306M with a adaptec ah9405 SATA/SAS controller and I have run into bug #46510   the installer works fine but when the system tries to boot from the hard disk it can not see the disk like bug #53138.  I went ahead and added the modules to the initrd on the hard disk but I am stuck on editing conf/modules.08:15
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makii have noob question, how to remove *.deb files? dpkg -r ?08:15
DJBlitshow i open in linux an .lnk file!!!?08:16
Jack_SparrowW9ZEB-Lars: My guess is the drivers and not installed correctly.. have you looked in your xorg.conf08:16
ladydoorDJBlits: lol...i was already responding to someone else, haha08:16
Vanmanhmm lots of questions ;)08:16
jribmaki: do you want to remove the files themselves or what they installed?08:16
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W9ZEB-LarsJack_Sparrow: will do.  Thanks again for the assistance.08:16
DJBlitsi:P08:16
Jack_Sparrownp08:16
Ferramentapenna.lnk is just a shortcut.  =/08:16
makii installed new kernel from deb package08:16
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synthjetphilosophyNrock: Sorry, no idea.. it "just worked" for me :)08:16
makinot from repository08:16
philosophyNrocksynthjet: aw08:16
gutanodoes anyone know of a serial terminal program that can deal with hex communication?08:16
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azzcoHi may I ask if anyone can help me a bit with kxdocker? I have some serius problems with it...08:17
Jack_Sparrowmaki:  Where did you get the kernel08:17
Jamminpotatothe driver name is fglrx not fglxr right?08:17
FerramentapennaI need to talk to someone who knows about scanners, or how to use a Plustek 9636T under Ubuntu.08:17
makiwww.kernel.org08:17
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jribmaki: you should be able to remove stuff you installed using 'dpkg -i foo.deb' with dpkg -r as you said, it gets put into the same apt database, so you should be able to use apt-get or synaptic too08:17
DJBlitscan sdomeone help me?08:17
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DJBlitshel pem ?08:17
grodiusCould someone please link me to the newest repository list08:17
Jamminpotato!fglrx>jamminpotato08:17
synthjetphilosophyNrock: try man pages.. there should be a way to include other drivers08:17
Jack_Sparrow!easysource08:17
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:17
filthpigHola. Trying to mount my ntfs drives in Kubuntu Dapper, but after editing fstab and trying "mount /media/ntfs" it gives me "mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /media/ntfs busy". Trying to umount either doesn't help :s Any ideas what might be causing this?08:17
maki2.6.17.1108:17
ladydoorgrodius: as i asked, do you mean the backports? i sent you an ubuto explanation of them08:17
Vanmanok well mine is easy:  I have a fresh install on a sparc server and i installed openssh server.  The server is started and I can connect via the console, but remotely it times out08:17
deflux-When I use onUnLoad, can I use dojo.io.bind ?08:18
NutubuntuHi - VERY basic oo.o and menu question. For some reason when I upgraded to Dapper, OO Draw didn't make it into my menus. I want to add it -- what command starts it?08:18
Vanmaneven though I can see ssh open08:18
synthjet!printtool > philosophyNrock08:18
ladydoorgrodius: the repository list doesn't change08:18
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azzcogrodius: search on google "ubuntu repository" there should be a link to a ubuntu wiki like page I think08:18
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jribNutubuntu: oodraw, if it is installed08:18
ladydoorgrodius: you just need to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:18
Nutubuntut/y jrib08:18
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ladydoorNutubuntu: oodraw08:18
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ladydoorNutubuntu: you might also install the application menu, which installs the nice debian menu08:19
NutubuntuYep -- it's there ... thanks ladydoor and jrib for that! ... ...  I love this chan :)08:19
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Wavesonicsit seems like ANY change i make to my xorg.conf breaks it. if i just change the refresh rate it shouldnt die right?08:19
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Jack_SparrowWavesonics: If it dosent like the rate it will die08:20
grodiusladydoor i need the newest list for my sources.list08:20
Nutubuntuladydoor:  I'm sorry to be such a n00b, but what is the application menu?08:20
Jack_Sparrowgrodius: there is no new list08:20
FerramentapennaNutubunu:  Click 'applications'08:20
grodiusNeeewest.08:20
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orbital_foxhello08:20
Jack_Sparrowgrodius: are you wanting to move to edgy ?08:20
perkelationhi08:20
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NutubuntuAh -- I see!08:20
orbital_foxi got a tiny issue08:20
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grodiusJack_Sparrow no im just looking for the dapper repositories, mine have been screwed up and I need the list08:21
NutubuntuAnd there it is under the debian menu ... t/y all08:21
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Jack_Sparrowgrodius: and I linked it for you08:21
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orbital_foxaparntly my ubuntu's repositories are still to firefox version 1.0.808:21
huckWhat's a good program to rip songs from cds? particularly mp3's that I've burned long ago... might possibly be wma files08:21
sivaniconHow do I stop my computer from going into suspend mode?08:21
orbital_foxhow can i get a later version of firefox?08:21
ladydoorNutubuntu: oh...the debian menu is a program that provides a menu for a lot of programs ubuntu's misses08:21
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Jack_Sparrowhuck: grip comes to mind08:22
ladydoorgrodius: um...as i said, the list doesn't change.08:22
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FerramentapennaI need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?08:22
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huckJack_Sparrow: thanks! I'll check it out!08:22
kromelbah08:22
slaxyhi guys.... a silly query.... i close the bottom panel.. which has the 4 workspaces, etc... can anyone tell me how to get it back...08:22
Jack_Sparrownp08:22
ladydoorgrodius: are you trying to upgrade from breezy?08:22
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rossmy amarok has stopped working since the latest update i keep getting the message "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers08:23
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kromelhehe I have to do: export DISPLAY=:0   and startx just to get in X08:23
tomcatt!ubotu mouse08:23
kimois there anyway to wget http://server/kernel*rpm but NOT kernel-devel ?08:23
sivaniconslaxy: right click on the bar and click add to bar and then you can click workspace08:23
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto08:23
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grodiusladydoor yes lol I know. My list was screwed up somehow, and so I dont HAVE it08:23
ladydoorgrodius: oh, ok. give me a second08:23
makiis somebody from POLAND ?08:23
Jack_Sparrowslaxy: right cligh and add...08:23
ompaul!pl08:23
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl08:23
slaxysivanicon : i closed the bar ... there is no bar in the bottom now... i want to get the bar.. sorry i wasnt clear08:23
ladydoor!paste > ladydoor08:24
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WinzySalut08:24
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Jack_Sparrowslaxy: gconf-editor08:24
ompaul!fr08:24
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:24
FerramentapennaI need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?08:24
technelI forget, what is that command that wipes a terminal's history again?08:24
Jack_Sparrowslaxy: would be a place to start..08:24
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rossanyone know how to fix amarok when it says "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers"08:24
synictechnel: clear?08:24
sivaniconslaxy: or if you still have the bar on the top you can right click and should be able to make another.08:24
Jack_Sparrowslaxy: or right click and add panel08:24
Nutubuntut/y again ladydoor08:24
technelsynak, no, I found it: tput reset08:25
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technelsynak, I don't want it just to scroll past what was shown, I want it to actually clear all history above08:25
mr_claus_hmm, the tsclient is still talking about wrong font paths08:25
TheGameanybody here know how to update programs08:25
Jack_Sparrowslaxy: or right click (on top panel) and add panel08:25
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TheGamei have f-spot .1 and the newest version is .208:25
mr_claus_which fontpaths are wrong, the paths of the local xserver?08:25
silentjihadHello All08:25
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sivaniconLike I said but better put08:25
Jack_SparrowTheGame: could you be more specific08:26
TheGamethe newest version of f-spot photo manager is 0.208:26
Wavesonicsyay!! got my refresh rate and resolution up, but i know my monitor can do high rates @ this res then it is allowing me to do08:26
TheGameand i have 0.1 installed08:26
Wavesonicsany ideas why?08:26
TheGamebut sudo apt-get upgrade doesnt update it08:26
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Jack_SparrowWavesonics: did yo add them to xorg as well08:26
slaxysivanicon, Jack_Sparrow: i dont think i can add the panel form the top panel.. cos where ever i right click i dont get the option of add ... [i modified the top panel] .. everywhere i can see remove from panel... lol... anyway let me try gconf-editor08:26
Wavesonicsxorg.conf08:26
HnHHello, does vsFTPd supports disk space quotas for virtual users?08:27
silentjihadHey, does anyone know how to get .Rm and RAM files to work with VLA or Mplayer? Or is there another video player that works well with Realplayer files??08:27
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jribsilentjihad: not sure what vla is but install w32codecs to get them to work in mplayer08:27
jrib!w32codecs > silentjihad08:27
synthjetslaxy: click on the empty space, not on an icon08:27
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ladydoorgrodius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2206308:27
Jack_Sparrowslaxy: you dont have the option of NEW PANEL08:27
Jack_Sparrowwhen you right click08:27
Wavesonicsi just, for my monitor, put: VertRefresh 47-17008:27
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synthjetJack_Sparrow: I guess he clicked on an appli icon rather than the empty space08:28
kmastacan I get some help with wine, i'm having opengl issues08:28
Jack_Sparrowwave add the res you want that yo know is supported in your xorg.conf08:28
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FerramentapennaI need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?08:28
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Wavesonicswell i have the resoltion in there, but when i go to the little "Change Resoltuion" GUI thing it allows the res i want but not the refresh with it08:29
HnHDoes vsFTPd support disk space quotas for virtual users?08:29
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Wavesonicswow u guys r actualy nice and healpfull as a community!08:29
Jack_Sparrowwe try08:29
slaxyok guys i got add panel... thx all :)08:29
Jack_SparrowUnless you are trying to run WIne :)08:29
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Wavesonicshaha08:29
Jack_Sparrownp slaxy08:29
DarkAuditWill the new nvidia drivers be backported to Dapper, or will I need to wait for Edgy?08:29
IndyBCHello. In the homepage of audacious it says to put some repos in the sources.list file08:30
IndyBCI did.08:30
Wavesonicsno, actually once i get my res and refresh set i want to try to finish install compiz08:30
IndyBCNow, what should I do, in order to get it?08:30
kmastahow do I fix this "fixme:wgl:X11DRV_setup_opengl_visual Failed to find a suitable visual"08:30
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synthjetkmasta: were you playing mplayer?08:30
silentjihadIs there any way to cue synaptic instences?08:31
NickGarveyhow do I tell apt-get to only update certain packages?08:31
Jack_SparrowIndyBC: once you have added the sources.. try synaptic and looking for the programs/packages they want you to install08:31
silentjihad!w32 codecs08:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:31
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kmastasynthjet: no, trying to get wine to work08:31
jribNickGarvey: apt-get install package1 package208:31
NickGarveyjrib: that will upgrade them?08:31
ZajjkoHow do you uninstall a driver in ubuntu 6.0608:31
jribNickGarvey: iirc08:31
IndyBCJack_Sparrow: ok, thanks johnny dep ;)08:31
Zajjko!schedule08:31
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule08:31
Jack_Sparrow:)08:31
kmastasynthjet: I've been told it means opengl isn't working or i don't have opengl installed or something08:31
HnHDoes vsFTPd support disk space quotas for virtual users?08:31
FerramentapennaI need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?08:32
synthjetkmasta: sorry, didnt play with wine much :)08:32
WavesonicsSo i'm trying to set up Compiz using this guide: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916&page=2 and i have it installed but when I restart the GUI it doesnt work08:32
Jack_SparrowFerramentapenna: have you searched the supported hardware list or done any google'ing on your own.08:32
kmastasynthjet, are u atleaste familiar to the error?08:32
FerramentapennaJack:  Aye, I have, and tried the fixes I saw, but no luck.08:32
Jack_Sparrow!compiz08:32
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:33
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ucordesanybody using ktorrent here?08:33
synthjetkmasta: nope.. but did you try installing opengl?08:33
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urbanpthi08:33
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kmastasynthjet: thats what i'm asking, how to I install opengl08:33
kmastasynthjet: cause i guess that means its not installed yet08:33
Jack_Sparrowucordes: I installed it but never used it, I got hooked on gnutella08:33
DarkAudit!nvidia08:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:34
Jack_SparrowI gotta go..08:34
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urbanptI'm with a weird problem at hand. I've got a server with only one nic. This nic has 2 ips (eth0, public and eth0:0 private -192.168...)08:34
ZajjkoHow do you uninstall a driver in ubuntu 6.06?08:34
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ucordesJack_Sparrow gtk gnutella is great but i can't download like big isos or stuff there08:34
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urbanptAnd I can't get the dhcpd server to run on eth0:008:34
DarkAuditnvidia released new Linux drivers on the 24th. Will they be backported to Dapper?08:34
ucordesJack_Sparrow: what gnutella client do you use?08:34
FerramentapennaI need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?08:35
ucordeswhat does DHT mean in ktorrent and what does it mean when there is a red cross next to it, anybody?08:35
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synthjetkmasta: not sure.. try this maybe: http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/231.html08:35
kmastaok, i type lspci and it says ATI technologies unknown device08:35
urbanptIt says Please write a subnet declaration in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment to which interface eth0:0 is attached.08:35
ladydoorDarkAudit: that sounds like a question for the backports section of the forum!08:35
kmastai have an X1600XT08:35
ladydoorDarkAudit: www.ubuntuforums.org08:35
DarkAuditladydoor: omw :)08:35
ladydoorDarkAudit: what does that mean? me stoopid08:35
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silentjihadRealplayer and the Helix player are the same thing right?08:36
synthjetkmasta: ubuntuforums.org should have this covered08:36
kmastaokie dokie08:36
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grodiusCan someone link me to a guide on how to unpack a tarball08:36
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kmastathe thing is, i don't think ubuntu is recognizing my card08:36
silentjihadgrodius what do you need?08:36
FerramentapennaGrodius:  Just right-click it and hit extract, or use the terminal and type "tar tarballname_version.tar"08:37
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grodiussilentjihad i just want to know08:37
urbanptAre there any network gurus here?08:37
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Intangirgrodius: in ubuntu you should be abel to just double click it08:37
synthjetkmasta: which video card?08:37
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grodiuswhat about installing the things that are inside the tar08:37
synthjetkmasta: oops I mean graphics card08:37
ajopaul_!boot > ajopaul_08:37
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teicahgrodius: man tar, man gzip08:37
urbanptgrodius: ./configure && make; sudo -c "make install"08:38
kmastasynthjet: no matter I just found the installing fglrx drivers on ubuntu and see that my X1600XT is supported08:38
FerramentapennaI need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?08:38
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tomcatt!beowulf08:39
silentjihadAnyone know of any good games for Linux? And where/how to get them?08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beowulf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
kmastason of a...large driver files :-@08:39
kmastatime to go get a good book...08:39
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kmastawhat does this mean "Make sure that you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list before doing these steps."08:40
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kmastaand how do i make sure that i have them set that way08:41
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cycomWhat are the bigiron packages for?  What arch and stuff?08:41
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grodiusurbanpt I cant run the command configure08:41
grodiusurbanpt im still trying to install whats in the tarball08:42
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kjmHi everyone.  I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu.  I just bought a wireless keyboard/mouse combo, and it is connected to the machine through a KVM switch.  Grub isn't accepting any keyboard input.   Anyone can help?08:42
Intangirgrodius: just open it, (it should save archive roller or something)08:42
Intangirthen extract it..08:42
kjmshould add.  Haven't had any problems with the KVM switch before.08:42
Intangirthen browse the directory08:42
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Intangirit should have archive roller i mean08:42
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ic56urbanpt: are you still waiting for dhcpd.conf answer?08:43
MasqyI've just finished compiling vlc 0.8.5, but... it does not show me the WMV3 format...  has someone dealt with this problem (or compiled vlc 0.8.5)08:43
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FerramentapennaI need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?08:43
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sivaniconWhat are the packages i need for building from source?08:44
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kjmsivanicon - gcc08:44
jrib!compile > sivanicon08:44
jbroomebuild-essential08:44
urie1helllo08:44
urie1guys i need help08:44
kjmor, listen to those two08:44
urie1i got ubuntu 6.0608:44
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urie1 and i want to install mplayerplugin08:44
urie1with no luck so far :\08:44
kjm!uriel automatix08:44
Intangircheck the wiki08:44
jriburie1: have you enabled multiverse?08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uriel automatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
kjm I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu.  I just bought a wireless keyboard/mouse combo, and it is connected to the machine through a KVM switch.  Grub isn't accepting any keyboard input.   Anyone can help?08:45
jbroome!automatix08:45
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.08:45
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Intangirkjm: sounds like its not hooked up right ;)08:45
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kjmheh, sure.  Except I'm typing from it right now.08:45
urie1they will help me there ?08:45
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Intangirand you reboot and grub cant read it?08:45
Intangirmake sure you enable usb keyboards/mice from your bios08:45
kjmJust, can't scroll through menu in Grub, which makes it a challenge to get into windows when necessary08:45
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kjmIntangir - even if it is plugged in through PS/2?08:46
makiwhat are diffrences between wine and winehq?08:46
Intangirkjm: a challenge? or impossible?08:46
kjmIntangir - an impossible challenge?08:46
Intangirkjm: oh .. well if its ps2 i dont see why grub would have any problem with it08:46
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kjmMe either....08:46
grodiusOk so I have extracted the tar but now I have a directory but I havent installed it08:46
Intangirgrub doesnt do any fancy hocus pocus to read the keybaord08:46
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opexocI have heard that C language is portable. Is it really true ? And why ? beacuse it is some weird issue for me.08:46
andrewyit doesnt have the drivers to do it08:46
FerramentapennaI need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?08:46
andrewyyes, it is, opexoc..08:46
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urie1kjm can u give me more detiles plz ?08:47
kjmopexoc - if you stick to the ANSI-C libraries and nothing OS Specific, then yes it is portible08:47
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ladydoorgrodius: did you get that link to my (edited down to defaults) menu.list?08:47
opexocandrewy: Is it result of defintion of this language ? or what ?08:47
ompaulopexoc, this is not #C08:47
Intangiropexoc: its cause damn near every platform has a C compiler08:47
grodiusladydoor yeah dont worry about it08:47
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andrewyopexoc: the language itself is portable, but if you do OS specific things, it isn't. you will need to recompile it for another platform though08:47
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urie1:(08:47
grodiusladydoor im working on new things lol08:47
urie1it seems that the channel is dead08:47
thomaslaihi, my Firefox version is still 1.5.0.5, when will the repo contain the latest version 1.5.0.6?08:47
tabmanok this is something strange, I'm facing 2 problems in Ubuntu openoffice which I'm not facing on windows 1. if you open OpenOffice.org 2.0\program\classes, there is a sandbox.jar file present in windows but not in case of Ubuntu & the other problem is of getting an exception when I run a pre given macro inside Impress08:47
ladydoorgrodius: cool08:48
Intangirurie1: this channel isnt dead08:48
ompaulopexoc,  and libs on one platform may not work that way on another08:48
Intangirthere are like 800 people talking nonstop08:48
urie1not this channel08:48
urie1the automatix08:48
urie1and i dont have detiles08:48
urie1i just want to install the plugin :\08:48
Intangiroh08:48
kjmuriel - sure.  Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse combo.  S510 model.  Hooked to 2 computers through a linksys KVM switch.  Cannot scroll through Grub menu on boot.  Both keyboard and mouse are connected to KVM switch (and computers) through PS/2 connections.08:48
kjmuriel - Dapper installed.08:48
opexocok.. but for example pascal... is it portable ?08:48
ompaul!offtopic08:49
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:49
urie1give me site with detiles howto anything08:49
Intangirurie1: the plugin for firefox? i dont remember the exact package name but there is a tutorial for installing flash and mplayer plugins on the wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com08:49
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Intangirsearch for firefox mplayer or something like that08:49
ompaul!restricted > urie108:49
ladydoorthomaslai: it's hard to say. it may make it into the backports before edgy, it might not.08:49
phillipsjkI decided to try a "USB 2.0 Internal 6-in-1 Card reader" The driver appears to work (shows in device manager), but media causes it to disonnect. any ideas?08:49
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thomaslailadydoor: thanks!08:49
ladydoorthomaslai: np...sorry i don't know better :-/08:50
ladydoorthomaslai: although there is a way to install it :-)08:50
ladydoorthomaslai: if you feel you need it08:50
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thomaslailadydoor: do you mean download the tar ball from mozilla.org?08:50
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ladydoorthomaslai: yeah, but you'd also have to use dpkg-divert to change the name of ubuntu's firefox package08:51
abonillaHi, is it ok today to move from Dapper to Edgy, or is it really broken?08:51
thomaslailadydoor: I am not sure how to do it08:51
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Wavesonicscompiz08:52
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Wavesonicswheres the Ubuntu guide to install Compiz again?08:53
ladydoorthomaslai: sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox. then you could put the new tarball in /opt, install it, and put a symlink to firefox in /usr/bin08:53
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ompaul!compiz > Wavesonics08:53
ompaulWavesonics, in the message ubotu sent you08:53
ladydoorthomaslai: but only if you're *desparate* for the update08:53
Wavesonicsaahh cool thank man!08:53
ladydoorabonilla: it's still under heavy development08:53
ladydoorabonilla: so you can use it at your own risk...it's still going to be buggy and far from stable. x may break.08:54
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teicahlast grodius08:54
WavesonicsOk so i followed this guide and when I try to start a XGL session it just goes blank then back to the logon screen. any ideas why?08:54
ompaulthomaslai, we don't tend to use yesterdays packages for the reason outlined in the url I am about to get ubotu produce08:54
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abonillaladydoor: I know, but I tried moving to an old dapper to edgy yesterday and bork, the grub boot loader and the strange framebuffer broke my startup08:54
ompaul!timetable08:54
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule08:54
ladydoorabonilla: if you *really* want edgy...maybe install it on a separate partition08:54
thomaslailadydoor: thanks. I think I will rather wait as I am not familiar with command line, as I am just a novice in ubuntu08:54
urie1how come nobody knows anything aobut this08:54
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urie1its very popular plugin08:54
ladydoorabonilla: weird.08:54
urie1nothing useful in the sites u gave me08:55
ladydoor!patience08:55
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:55
ompaulthomaslai, read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases08:55
abonillaladydoor: I know the risk, etc. it's just to know if as of today a big merge is going on and maybe some framebuffer is occuring08:55
Linuturk_codeurie1, what are you asking about?08:55
abonilla!edgy08:55
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule08:55
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abonilla!schedule08:55
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule08:55
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ladydoorabonilla: ah08:55
FoogleHello I want to edit the runlevels on a fresh install is there a gui version that I can apt-get08:55
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abonillaladydoor: did you move?08:56
urie1i am asking about installing mplayer plugin for firefox08:56
ladydoorabonilla: to?08:56
abonilladapper -> edgy08:56
FoogleI want to shorten my boot time08:56
Linuturk_codeurie1, have you searched the wiki and forums? I know there is a HOWTO out there for it08:56
thomaslaiompaul: thanks08:56
ladydoorurie1: yes, and if nobody knows, nobody knows08:56
urie1yes08:56
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urie1i found in the forums guides08:56
urie1but they are too olds08:56
ladydoorabonilla: ah. no. as ubotu said, you might check out #ubuntu+108:56
urie1and doesnt work with current08:56
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abonillathanks08:56
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Linuturk_codeurie1, doesn't work with what current?08:57
urie11 of the reason is that the mplayer files were removed from apt08:57
Jamminpotatodoes anyone here have gmailFS working?08:57
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FoogleHello I want to edit the runlevels on a fresh install is there a gui version that I can apt-get ?08:57
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urie1current situation08:57
ladydoor!repeat08:57
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience08:57
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ompaulurie1, see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer if current is edgy you are in the wrong channel08:57
urie1dapper08:57
urie1g08:57
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Jamminpotatodoes anyone here have gmailFS working?08:57
ladydoorurie1: they should be in one of the repos...do you have universe & multiverse enabled?08:58
technelI have a vfat partition and an external hard drive also formatted as fat32. For some reason, everytime I copy the folder ACDC from the external to the music partition, it creates two identical folders: ACDC and acdc. When I delete acdc, ACDC goes away too...what is going on?!08:58
ladydoor!repeat08:58
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience08:58
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Linuturk_codeurie1, well, since I don't know, and apparently no one in here knows, so post in the forums in the thread you found. someone must know who isn't on irc08:58
Wavesonics--I'm installing my ATI drivers and followed the wiki, but i try to do aticonfig and it says it is not found. any ideas why?08:58
urie1dude08:58
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urie1the plugin is a different project08:58
urie1!!!08:58
Intangirurie1: sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer08:58
urie1argh i need to go bbs08:58
Intangirthats it08:58
Intangiri got that off the wiki08:58
urie1yea that not up to date08:59
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Intangirwhich i told you to check twice08:59
jacquesDr_Wills are you there08:59
Intangiradd the repositories08:59
Intangirthen try it08:59
kjmhmm, so I tried rebooting, and still nothing from the keyboard.  Also, my other box (Fedora FC5) won't take keyboard input - until I startx, which I can't do....because this keybaord can't type startx at the command line.08:59
grodiusCan someone tell me about checkinstall08:59
ompaul!checkinstall08:59
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.08:59
kjmCould it be a USB issue, even though I am plugged in through PS/2 through an adaptor?08:59
urie1E: Couldn't find package mozilla-mplayer08:59
jacquesDr_Willis are you there08:59
urie1people whats up with u08:59
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urie1ok n/m08:59
urie1bb iwthin 15 min08:59
Dr_WillisHuh? Just got here. :)08:59
ladydoorurie1: you need to enable universe & multiverse08:59
ladydoorurie1: seriously08:59
jacquesHi  how you been doing08:59
ompaul!repos > urie109:00
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ladydoor!patience > urie109:00
Dr_Willisjacques,  on dayshift this week. just got off work.09:00
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Linuturk_code!somethingrandom > urie!09:00
Linuturk_code;p09:00
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Otacon22wich is the shell command to start the gnome screensaver?09:00
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IndyBCAny systray plugin for bmp?09:01
WavesonicsI'm doing: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and it says it works but then I try to use it "fglxrinfo" and it says it doesnt exist09:01
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Intangirurie1: i just tried it on another machine here , mozilla-mplayer is still there09:02
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Samuli^Wavesonics, hmm, glxinfo?09:02
Intangirurie1: enable the repositories09:02
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thomaslaiAnyone has tried AmaroK? The Play Audio CD option is greyed out. Anyone knows why?09:03
Intangirthomaslai: i use xmms, it plays CDs09:03
grodiusI need help installing a program. I have check install but i need to know what to run09:03
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jribgrodius: what program are you trying to install?09:03
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thomaslaiIntangir: yes, I can use Sound Juicer to play CDs too, but I really like AmaroK, so will like to play all music staffs in AmaroK09:04
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Fatih`hello09:04
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jacquesthats hecktic09:05
grodiusjrib The editor and shell for Python09:05
Fatih`I can't use mpd09:05
jacqueswhat work do you do09:05
Fatih`error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused09:05
jribgrodius: what is the name of it?09:05
Intangirthomaslai: maybe it needs some kinda plugin? or CD library09:05
Fatih`Any ideas why, it doesn't work09:05
Intangirlook up the package on packages.ubuntu.com and see if it has any recommended packages you didnt install09:05
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grodiusjrib: Python-2.4.3.tgz09:05
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Fatih`and telnet localhost gives me09:05
thomaslaiIntangir: do you have Amarok? I am not sure what plugin is missing09:05
Fatih`Trying 127.0.0.1...09:05
Fatih`telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused09:05
Intangirthomaslai: no i never tried it. ive heard alot about it though, surely it can play CDs09:06
Intangirunless your missing something09:06
jribgrodius: python is already installed, have you tried just typing 'python' in a terminal?09:06
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JustinCaseI'm having trouble getting ubuntu to recognize my 400gb external usb 2.0 HD. Suse and fedora  core both have no probs and I have compared contrasted and googled. Anyone else having the same prob? Dmesg error says "usb 1-2: device descriptor read/8, error -110"09:06
marshall_hey guys09:06
thomaslaiIntangir: yes, I am equally puzzled as well09:06
marshall_how do you use a .patch file?09:06
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Intangirtry what i suggested09:06
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Intangirthomaslai: look up the package on packages.ubuntu.com and see if it has any recommended packages you didnt install09:06
marshall_i just downloaded the last-exit save song patch09:06
lasindi[SH118] Hi all, is there a file that you can put in your home directory that behaves the same way as /etc/hosts (i.e. lets you give aliases to IP addresses without root access to the machine)?09:07
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marshall_and i have no idea what to do with it09:07
thomaslaiIntangir: okay. Thanks09:07
Samuli^Intangir, Have you tried it with several cd's?09:07
jacquesDr_Willis:We spoke the other day about having twinview. i totally messed up and i could start the gui. Is there maybe a more detailed howto that i could use. I have a nvidia FX 550009:07
jribmarshall_: with the 'patch' command, usually: patch -p0 < file.patch    or just   patch < file.patch, see man patch for more info09:07
Otacon22wich is the shell command to start the gnome screensaver?09:07
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Dr_Willisjacques,  all i learned.. i learned from the nvidia docs and that gentoo example/wiki page.09:07
Intangirthomaslai: maybe install kdemultimedia-kio-plugins09:08
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Dr_Willisjacques,  and several years worth of tweaking X config files experience.09:08
NickGarvey!ext309:08
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org09:08
marshall_jrib:  if i do that command, the .patch file will apply itself to the right file?09:08
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jribmarshall_: you have to be in the right location, that is where the -p0 stuff comes in09:08
jacquesDr_Willis: I see, ok will try again09:09
jribmarshall_: man patch is very readable, and does a good job explaining it09:09
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marshall_jrib:  what man patch09:09
nibbyHello, someone can tell me how to install nvidia driver under ubuntu 6.06 ?09:09
marshall_jrib:  *whats man patch?09:09
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jribmarshall_: type 'man patch' in a terminal.  It will take you to the manual page for patch09:09
thomaslaiIntangir: Thanks buddy09:09
thomaslaiIntangir: I am trying now ...09:09
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barongaswhen I apt-get upgrade all the compiz/xgl-related packages are "held back", why could that be?09:10
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marshall_jrib:  ok09:10
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JustinCaseI'm having trouble getting ubuntu to recognize my 400gb external usb 2.0 HD. Suse and fedora  core both have no probs and I have compared contrasted and googled. Anyone else having the same prob? Dmesg error says "usb 1-2: device descriptor read/8, error -110"09:11
DJBlitsello?09:11
DJBlitssomeone can help me ?09:11
DJBlitsyes, i hope09:11
DJBlitsthis me problem09:11
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DJBlitshello?09:11
DJBlitssome can help me!?09:11
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nibbyHello, someone can tell me how to install nvidia driver under ubuntu 6.06 ?09:12
jrib!nvidia > nibby09:12
dixieDJBlits: ask the question, don't ask who can answer09:12
DJBlitsyeah. how i can use .dll in linux???? ubuntu09:12
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nibbyjrib: thanks09:12
santa99good evening i would like nautilus to open maximised where can i configure this ?09:12
AbstIs there any way to list all processes in ubuntu and kill one?09:12
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JustinCasetop09:12
DJBlitsyeah. how i can use .dll in linux????09:13
lamegoDJBlits, you can't09:13
santa99Abst, ps -A | grep processyouraresearching09:13
jribAbst: system > administration > system monitor09:13
DJBlitswy not?09:13
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Abstsanta99: Thanks09:13
jacques!nvidia > jacques09:13
dixieDJBlits: how you want to use .dll from windows in linux ?09:13
JustinCasekillall "name of process"09:13
lamegoDJBlits, because .dll are windows libraries, not linux libraries09:13
andrewyi'm trying to help a friend with ubuntu.. it was working fine for a while, but he said the sound just stopped working and i can't figure out why. /proc/asound/pcm and /proc/asound/card0 exist, but amixer doesnt show a pcm or master device. he has a soundblaster 24bit. anyone have any ideas?09:13
DJBlitsi dont know09:14
lamegoyou canb only use them from wine09:14
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DJBlitsi come here to quest it09:14
DJBlitsif it ;s cant09:14
DJBlitswe dont can play games09:14
lamegoDJBlits, what are you trying to achieve ?09:14
santa99Abst, to kill the process only enter sudo kill processyouaresearching_pid_number09:14
dixieDJBlits: use wine09:14
DJBlits...09:14
woodgraincan synaptic install gd on my ubuntu box?09:14
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jribwoodgrain: what is "gd"?09:14
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lamegowoodgrain, apt-cache search gd09:14
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lamegojrib, i guess it'ts the graphical lib09:15
woodgrainlamego, what's apt-cache do?09:15
DJBlitsuse wine?09:15
DJBlitsi use wine to open09:15
JustinCaseman apt-cache09:15
DJBlits.exe09:15
lamegowoodgrain, it will search the apt repositories for a given string09:15
DJBlitsi dont want open .dll09:15
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nuxordHi, i am looking for a good C compiler, can someone direct me to the name of one?09:15
DJBlitsbut i need to use it09:15
woodgrainJustinCase, oh, I might try that.09:15
DJBlitsin game09:15
DJBlitscurse09:15
DJBlitsif i play me game09:15
JustinCasegcc09:15
lamegonuxord, sudo apt-get install build-essential09:15
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jriblamego: oh I see09:15
lamegoit will install gcc09:15
DJBlitshis wont do anything09:15
santa99nobody about the setting i have to set in nautilus to start nautilus maximised09:15
jrib!enter > DJBlits09:15
woodgrainlamego, gd is a library, would something like that even be in a repository?09:15
jribsanta99: you /could/ use devilspie09:15
lamegowoodgrain, sure :)09:16
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santa99jrib, whats devilspie ?09:16
nuxordok, i have it installed, but how can i open it? o dont see it in the applications section?09:16
DJBlitsso i get an bug, and have to turn off me pc09:16
jrib!info libgd209:16
ubotulibgd2: GD Graphics Library version 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.33-2ubuntu5.1 (dapper), package size 126 kB, installed size 352 kB09:16
DJBlitsthats me problem09:16
lamegowoodgrain, apt-cache search libgd09:16
NutubuntuHas anyone installed ruby on rails? What do I need to install -- besides ruby itself -- for ruby on rails?09:16
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jrib!devilspie09:16
ubotudevilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie09:16
santa99jrib, found the package09:16
cliffdnone of the icons in my system tray are click able, like my batter icon, and network and wireless signal indicator, any ideas?09:16
santa99jrib, will take a look on it09:16
thomaslaiIntangir: too bad, it does not work09:16
urie1back09:16
urie1listen guys09:16
urie1i am not idiot09:16
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woodgrainlamego, whats diff between gd abd libgd?09:16
urie1i added univese and multi !09:17
nuxordI gave GCC installed, but how can i open it? i dont see it in the applications section...09:17
urie1its still not working (check it even on ur machine09:17
DJBlitsdo any one know, how i can use me game09:17
DJBlitssoldat09:17
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jribnuxord: it is a command line tool09:17
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lamegowoodgrain, none, libgd is the library09:17
cdubyawas there a recent update to dapper? I'm getting an update manager notification (ever since I installed the latest wine deb from winehq) about 158 updates being available09:17
Dr_Willisegads...09:17
jriburie1: please post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link09:17
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JustinCasegcc myprogram.c -o myprogram09:17
santa99jrib, sudo devilspie says: No s-expressions loaded, quiting09:18
lamegocdubya, it must be your wine repository09:18
DJBlitssomeone can help me with an game? plz chat private then09:18
nuxordi dont understand...09:18
cdubyaah09:18
lamegocdubya, I do not recommend to keep non ubuntu repos on the list09:18
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jribsanta99: first, don't sudo it please!  Take a look at the wiki page ubotu linked a minute ago09:18
cdubyalamego, I know...I took it off as soon as I got done d09:18
woodgrainlamego, when should I use apt and when should I use synaptic?09:18
DJBlits!09:18
cdubya'loading the wine package09:18
lamegonuxord, gcc is a compiler, not an editor09:18
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santa99JustinCase, would you like to know how to compile a C-program ?09:18
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lamegonuxord, compilers are not launched from menus09:18
santa99jrib, ok thx09:19
santa99!devilspie09:19
Intangirurie1: http://intangir.soulfire.cc/sources.list09:19
ubotudevilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie09:19
Intangirheres mine09:19
Intangirmine works09:19
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Dr_Willisnuxord,  you may want to read a few beginner guides -->  http://tldp.org/guides.html09:19
lamegonuxord, ig you are looking for a nice ide, try code::blocks09:19
Otacon22wich is the shell command to start the gnome screensaver?09:19
cliffdanyone know why my system tray icons would stop responding to clicks, like my wireless signal strenght, gaim volume, clock etc etc ?09:19
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jribOtacon22: gnome-screensaver I think09:19
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narniahi09:19
lamegowolki, synaptic is just a graphical interface for apt09:19
Otacon22jrib, it isn't installed09:19
lamegoi mean, woodgrain ^09:19
Otacon22i have to install it for use...09:20
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jribOtacon22: then maybe you are using xscreensvaer09:20
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narniaI can't get ubuntu 6.0.1 to start up09:20
jribOtacon22: xscreensaver even09:20
nuxordso where can i get an editor, i need to do some C programming =\09:20
lamegoOtacon22, gnome-s<TAB>09:20
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woodgrainlamego, so ctrl-f in synaptic is about the same as apt-cache search ____ in apt?09:20
Otacon22already done09:20
Wavesonicsgah wahts the xgl channle?09:20
jribnuxord: gedit will do09:20
jrib!xgl09:20
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:20
DJBlitsi got an game with dll files, but how i can play me game.... that dll files wont work09:20
lamegonuxord, go to synaptic search for: development environment09:20
Nutubuntunuxord:  there's gedit, there's nedit, there's bluefish ... there are a lot of choices. What features do you want in an editor?09:21
Soulflynuxord: you have one in the menu..   or run "gedit"09:21
IntangirWavesonics: ubuntug-xgl or xgl09:21
urie1what is wrong :\09:21
Intangiroops. ubuntu-xgl09:21
Intangirurie1: http://intangir.soulfire.cc/sources.list09:21
Intangircopy that into your sources.list09:21
Intangirapt-get update09:21
NutubuntuDJBlits:  have you looked at the wine website to see if your game will run under wine?09:21
urie1mplayer-mozilla09:21
Intangirapt-get install mozilla-mplayer09:21
urie1right ?09:21
narniamy computer freezes at the "Booting Kernel, OK" message09:22
urie1oh09:22
JustinCasenuxord: check out scite09:22
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urie1ok i'm updating lets see09:23
narniaanyone have any ideas as to why my computer freezes at "Booting Kernel, OK"09:23
narnia?09:23
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santa99jrib, that wasn't the thing i was searching for09:24
JustinCasenarnia: have you just changed your kernel?09:24
narnianope09:24
NutubuntuHas anyone installed ruby & rubygems?09:24
jribsanta99: didn't you want nautilus to always start maximized?09:24
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NutubuntuI've got ruby but I'm not clear how to install rubygems09:24
narniajust inserted the Ubuntu CD, and tried loading it up09:24
JustinCasenarnia: when did it stop working09:24
santa99jrib, yes but i couldn't figure out how to do this09:25
narniawhen I first inserted the CD09:25
urie1ok09:25
urie1urs works09:25
urie1thx09:25
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Intangirurie1: finally ;)09:25
Intangirurie1: you know all i did was follow the directions off the wiki09:25
JustinCasenarnia: have you tried booting another pc from this cd?09:25
jribsanta99: did you try any rules?09:26
narniayup09:26
narniait works on the other pc09:26
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narniacould it be something to do with my BIOS settings?09:26
santa99jrib, didn't saw the forum thread before i will go trough it before maybe it can help09:27
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jribsanta99: ok, let me know if it still doesn't work and I'll give it a go09:27
JustinCasenarnia:maybe but it is *trying* to boot so at least it got past the post09:27
santa99jrib, ok thx09:27
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JustinCasenarnia: have u tried other linux install or live cd's like knoppix?09:28
narnianot yet09:28
narniawill try that now09:29
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lamegonarnia, you should try to install using the alternate cd09:29
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narniaok09:29
NutubuntuHas anyone installed ruby & rubygems? I have installed ruby 1.8 via Synaptic but am not clear how to install gems ... anyone ?09:29
Gargoylehello09:29
JustinCasenarnia: what he said!09:29
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GargoyleCan anyone help with postfix and mysql virtual alias maps.09:30
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Gargoyle?09:30
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ryanpghi all... anyone able to recommend good lesson planning software?09:30
Cyberaihey, I'm running dapper and ever since running apt-get upgrade about a wee ago I've had thsi weird behavior. I'm typing and I hold downthe shift key to type some tuff in caps and when I hit some key (don't know which one) I am logged out all of a sudden. It's almost like X crashes. Anyone else seeing this?09:30
JustinCaseryanpg: are u running edubuntu?09:31
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mirakis there a way to exit gnome from command line ?09:31
neildarlowcan anyone tell me in which repository libsensors3 exists?09:31
jribCyberai: shift-backspace restarts X if you are using xgl I think09:31
CyberaiAHA09:31
CyberaiI did turn on xgl09:31
jribmirak: gnome-session-save --kill09:32
mirakjrib: thanls09:32
narniayay, I got Slax to load up09:32
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narniaI think it's a fairly old version though09:32
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ladydoorryanpg: you might check out #edubuntu09:32
ladydoor:-)09:32
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mirakjrib: is there a way to restart a gnome session without actually loging out ?09:32
JustinCasenarnia: alternate CD!09:33
brentdaxI have an SMTP server that's down for repairs, and I'm worried servers may start dropping mail soon.  Is there an Ubuntu package I could quickly configure on my desktop to temporarily hold the incoming mail?09:33
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EVRAMPhi, has someone tried cvscedega? i have problem: no sound i games. could you help me pls. thanx09:33
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jribmirak: not sure what you mean.  Do you want to login as a new user and keep the current one logged in?09:33
Nutubunturyanpg:  I ran across some open-source education software sites recently. Don't remember specifically about lesson-planning software, but I'd imagine it would be there ... would you like the links if I can find them again?09:34
bean-ohanyone here using NetworkManager for wifi?09:34
brentdaxbean-oh: I am.09:34
mirakjrib: no, just restart everything like gnome-panels etcetera09:34
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narniad/l alternate CD now09:34
Magicdeadi got a problem when emulating flash player 9 with firefox in wine, i this one flash movie you can input text, now when i enter a special character like  the input field turns blank and i don't see anything anymore, but the message arrives correctly and so on, flash just seems to be unable to draw text lines with special characters (and it can't be a flash error, as it works fine on linux flash)09:34
lamegobrandon_, emails will be ketp on the relays for several hours09:34
mirakjrib: doing the session start process without logging in from gdm09:35
santa99jrib, (if (is (application_name) "nautilus") (maximize))09:35
Magicdeadin the emulated firefox i can enter the chars and it displays them correctly09:35
santa99jrib, thats what in my nautilus.ds09:35
mirakjrib: for exemple the splash screen etcetera09:35
jribmirak: oh I don't know09:35
neildarlowlamego: sensible ones keep them for several days :)09:35
brentdaxlamego: you talking to me, or are you replying to something posted before I came in?09:35
santa99jrib, then i start it with devilspie nautilus.ds09:35
Nutubunturyanpg:  if you would like them I've pastebinned them here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2208009:35
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santa99jrib, but if i start nautilus it doesn't start maximized09:35
jribsanta99: try: (if (is (application_name) "File Manager") (maximize))09:36
ladydoor!anyone > bean-oh09:36
bean-ohbrentdax, do you have problems staying connected to an access point? seems like it gets confused easy, drops the connection and then has to reconnect far more often than it should09:36
NutubuntuAnyone: Question on how to install ruby & GEMS (or rubygems?): I have installed ruby 1.8 via Synaptic but am not clear how to install gems ... anyone ?09:36
lamegobrentdax, another person09:36
jribsanta99: and it's best if you just put nautlus.ds in ~/devilspie/ and start devilspie normally09:36
santa99jrib, okey09:36
jribsanta99: also if you run 'devilspie -d' you will get debugging info, which is how I know the application_name for nautilus09:37
santa99jrib, but where is devilspie09:37
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jribsanta99: oops I meant ~/.devilspie/, just create it if it isn't there09:37
brentdaxbean-oh: Not often, but I think I used to--it probably has more to do with your wireless card's drivers and the access points than NetworkManager itself.09:37
bean-ohladydoor, sorry about that, i should know better. :D09:37
santa99jrib, is the ~ = /home/user/.devilspie ?09:38
ladydoorbean-oh: lol. no worries. i would've said something more productive, but i *don't* use it. sorry09:38
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ladydoorbean-oh: (wireless i mean)09:38
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jribsanta99: yes, so your file is going to be /home/user/.devilspie/nautilus.ds09:38
lamegoNutubuntu, you get ruby gems from the source : ?09:38
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bean-ohbrentdax, yeah, i'm thinking its probably the crappy cisco airo card/driver. it usually works fine, but it seems like if i have a less than optimal connection, its really flaky.09:38
fuocodo i need internet connection when installing ubuntu ?09:38
desertfishHi, all.  I can't figure out which package to install to enable  m4a decoding in banshee/gstreamer09:39
lamegofuoco, no09:39
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Nutubuntulamego:  Is that where I'd begin? Couldn't find it in Synaptic, so figured I'd have to d/l from source, but wanted to check first. I *am* a n00b ...  :)09:39
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brucedesdoes anyone know how I can convert a .dmg from OS X into a standard iso file in ubuntu?09:39
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JustinCasefuoco: no but you do need the CD's09:39
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lamegoNutubuntu, according to site, gems are beta, it would explain not being on synaptic ;)09:39
desertfishis there a good resource on the Web I can look at to avoid " ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-m4a" from banshee?09:39
fuocoJustinCase: more than just the alternative install cd ?09:39
liran_when i try to hibernate it fails and system just shutsdown, when i resume my swap is corrupted and i have to apply mkswap on the partition. is this a known issue?09:39
Nutubuntulamego:  That's logical :)09:39
brentdaxbean-oh: if it's really bad, you may just have to get a dedicated wireless card.09:39
NutubuntuOkay ... off I go, thanks!09:40
santa99jrib, and so i have to put devilspie in the session startup ?09:40
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jribsanta99: yes09:40
bean-ohbrucedes, my hunch is that you won't be able to. your best bet is to build it from source (if offered)09:40
ryanpgNutubuntu, ty09:40
Nutubuntuy/w, ryanpg09:40
santa99jrib, ok thx was exactly the program i was searching for09:40
NutubuntuHope some of that helps09:40
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brucedesits a backup of my os x install disks which i made before my system went belly up, and I don't think linux can burn them natively09:40
bean-ohbrentdax, its passible. at least enough to suffer with until my company upgrades my thinkpad09:40
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JustinCasefuoco:have a luke at the ubuntu install docs... gives you all the options09:41
ryanpgNutubuntu, there's just a TON of "education" sites out there, most are incomprehensible :)09:41
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brentdaxbean-oh: Alright.  Just keep an eye on the upgrade manager, I guess.09:41
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Nutubunturyanpg:  Figures, doesn't it? "Those who can, do; those who can't do, teach" -- and  those who can't teach put up education websites, I guess... ;)09:41
bean-ohbrentdax, yeah definitely. its the best thing going wireless-wise, so i have a lot of hope that it will get better than better.09:42
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Madeyeguys, I got new machine and want to install ubuntu; it's 64 AMD with 160GB HDD, how many partition do you recommend to have ?09:42
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Hexidigital_Madeye::  are you installing any other OSes on it?09:43
Dr_WillisMadeye,  depends on the job you want to do with it.09:43
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JustinCaseMadeye: dual boot or just linux?09:43
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ladydoorMadeye: well, in addition to a swap partition and a / partition, i recommend at least a /home partition09:43
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ladydoorMadeye: if you're a gamer, you might add /opt09:43
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Linuturk_codeMadeye, i personally use three. One at the front of the drive for swap, one about 10 gigs for the system drive (varies with how much you want to install) and the rest as the /home directory09:43
krank_Madeye I created "/" home and swap09:43
NutubuntuMadeye:  As ladydoor said -- you want at least /home separate from everything else09:43
bean-ohbrucedes, i misread. either way, i'm not sure there is dmg -> iso converter for linux. if nothing comes up with google, you might be on your own09:43
ryanpgNutubuntu, you're onto something there! I mean you would expect educators to be clear... but let me tell you; if you want to explore horrid examples of sharing information just google "education"09:43
DigitalNinjaI have an email server with /var/log/mail.log. It should rotate once a week but it rotates when it wants to. Can someone help me with this?09:43
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brentdaxMadeye: What do you plan do with the space?  Video?  Music?  Games?09:43
Madeyebrent, web server09:44
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krank_madeye: my swap was 1 gig, the other two equal sized, about 24g each09:44
brentdaxWhat kind of content on the web server?09:44
kjmHaving troubles with wireless PS/2 keyboard and Grub......grub doesn't like the keyboard (i.e. can't scroll through grub menu).09:44
Normal_ooci have a question09:44
brucedesoh dear bean-oh :(09:44
brentdax(re Madeye)09:44
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bean-ohbrucedes, no access to another mac?09:45
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brucedesnope09:45
Normal_ooci'm looking to install ubuntu, but its not autobooting from the cd09:45
Madeyebrentdax, krank_  web server serving xml documents, some streaming and little testing09:45
Normal_oocam i doing something wrong?09:45
bean-ohDigitalNinja, have you looked at the crontab?09:45
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DigitalNinjaYup!09:45
brucedesall my os x disks are f*ed and this backup is all I have left09:45
qatsican anyone tell me how do i edit a file which is in a .deb ?09:45
brentdaxMadeye: A dedicated server or a desktop machine with a web server running on it?09:45
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brentdaxMadeye: (i.e. are you planning to use it as a desktop as well?)09:46
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Madeyebrentdax, no, not a desktop at all09:46
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upgrdmanin my fstab, i want to make a listing to mount a samba share. how do i tell it what username and password to use.... i do not want to use credentials=/file ... but rather put it strait in09:46
kattekiksenNormal_ooc, What do you mean?.. Does the cdrom not boot or is it ubuntu that doesn't boot?09:46
qatsianyone ? how to edit a .deb file ?09:46
DigitalNinjabean-oh: I've looked at crontab, logrotate, syslog.conf, syslogd-listfiles etc...09:46
brentdaxMadeye: Then I recommend a big fat /var partition.  That's usually where web documents go, as well as log files and databases.09:46
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ladydoor!repeat09:46
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:46
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acidiananyone know how to compile and install wine from source?09:46
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JustinCaseacidian: gentoo? 8)09:47
brentdaxMadeye: You might even want separate partitions for /var/www, /var/log, /var/mysql, etc.09:47
qatsiubotu told me im being ignored :( hehe09:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about told me im being ignored :( hehe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:47
fyrestrtracidian: sure.09:47
_lupineacidian: ./configure; make; make install is the usual09:47
acidianJustinCase: not on gentoo :P09:47
ladydooracidian: no...but do you know of the wine repositories for ubuntu's apt? they're up-to-date09:47
acidianI did all those things09:47
acidianbut its telling me it cant find a libwine.so.l when trying to run it afterwards09:47
brentdaxOther than that, a root partition is probably about enough.  Maybe a small /home, but I don't know if you really need that.09:48
_lupine(side note: you can install gentoo's portage tree in ubuntu)09:48
Normal_oockattekiksen: i reboot my machine, it reads that theres a cd in the cdrom, but then loads windcows normally, it doesnt load ubuntu freecd and i cnat find the install.exe on the cd itself09:48
brentdax(re Madeye again)09:48
qatsiis there anyone here who knows how to edit a file inside a .deb ?09:48
_lupineacidian: install libwine as well?09:48
ladydoor!repeat09:48
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:48
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acidianladydoor:  needed to change the source to bypass some opengl setting in wine to play wow :)09:48
fyrestrtrNormal_ooc: there is no install.exe09:48
_lupineqatsi: it's just an AR archive09:48
ladydooracidian: ahhhhhh09:48
kjm!patience09:48
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:48
ompaul!checkinstall > acidian09:48
ladydooracidian: sorry, i don't know09:48
brucedessince I can't convert it, could I make a blank .iso image (which is bootable), then mount the dmg and copy the files over, then burn it?09:48
_lupine!libwine09:48
ubotulibwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Dummy Package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB09:48
bean-ohDigitalNinja, what about /etc/logrotate.conf ?09:49
qatsi_lupine: uhmm, but the archive mannager dosnt open the file :(09:49
_lupineeh, it's a dummy now09:49
ladydoor_lupine: zie wants to install from source09:49
DigitalNinjabean-oh: Yup!09:49
fyrestrtracidian: there are instructions on the winehq.org page for WoW that tell you exactly how to download the source, apply the patch, install the dependencies and configure it to run wow.09:49
_lupineQatsi: try ar -x <file> from the terminal09:49
ompaulacidian, your call on the changes in the sources but that checkinstall will allow you uninstall it later if you need to09:49
SonicChaoSomeone told me I needed a sniffer to search ports so people couldn't hack me. Is there a good one in the repos?09:49
_lupineladydoor: I know... he's just missing the .so09:49
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bean-ohDigitalNinja, hmm, not sure.09:49
_lupinemaybe it's been built but not installed?09:49
acidianfyrestrtr: I was following it, but it wasnt working at the compiling part09:49
ladydoor_lupine: oh.09:49
brucedesor at least a way to non-destructively format, then I could use an OS X disk to mount the dmg to a partition then install from there09:49
dalfzhow can i check what process is occupying my soundcard?09:49
qatsi_lupine: thank you very much :) ill try that09:49
acidianompaul: kk09:49
Normal_oocfyrestrtr: then how do i get it to boot from cd?09:49
_lupinedalf: fuser <sound device file>09:49
fyrestrtracidian: did you go to the page that talks about the dependencies, and install the ones for dapper?09:50
_lupineor fusers. I foget09:50
JustinCase_lupine:really? portage, eh? wow!09:50
_lupineforget*09:50
fyrestrtrNormal_ooc: tell your bios to boot from the cd.09:50
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_lupinenot recommended, really, but cool in the extreme :)09:50
acidianfyrestrtr: nope, that I didnt09:50
_lupinebeats the pants off of apt-rpm09:50
kattekiksenNormal_ooc, Well, Have you ver tried linux?.. There's to ways to solve your boot problem.. either theres a "boot list key" (It will say which before loading windows, in the black boot thingie where i displays your PC's specs.. Probably f8 or f11.. 2) You can define your boot order in your BIOS setup. (To go to BIOS you sjould probably press f2 or DEL)09:50
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fyrestrtracidian: then you couldn't have gotten past the ./configure stage, it would have barked at you with errors.09:50
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acidianI did configure, didnt see any special errors09:51
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fyrestrtracidian: is this the first time you have compiled something?09:51
_lupineacidian: is the .so in the source tree?09:51
Normal_oockatte: this'll be my first intro to linux, usually a win user09:51
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fyrestrtracidian: all errors are special.09:51
acidianfyrestrtr: yeah09:51
fyrestrtracidian: you probably didn't know what to look for :)09:51
_lupine(and did you make install as root/sudo?)09:51
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Normal_oocbrb, gonna try those two suggestions, i'll be bvack if they dont work09:51
acidian_lupine:  I dont know09:51
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sfphi room09:52
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fyrestrtracidian: go back to the winehq page, and read the instructions carefully, and don't skip any parts. I have compiled wine from source many times, and it can be done, just follow instructions.09:52
ossiehi guys i have just installed mysql and dont know the default user password09:52
ossie?09:52
_lupineok, first look for .so files in the source tree. Also check your /lib for them. If in source tree but not /lib, then simply "sudo make install" to fix09:52
qatsi_lupine: it says that i dont have the command ar, should I install something like ar ?09:52
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_lupinepresumably, yes. Should be a part of coreutils though09:53
fyrestrtrossie: there isn't one. mysql -u root -p (hit enter when it asks you for the password, then set one)09:53
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sfpxwindows won't start on my dapper drake installation. it says the gdm won't start. will the installation cd fix this or is there a quicker way to repair the installation09:53
SleepySockshey everyone, when is the next release of Edgy Eft suppose to be released?  Isn't it suppose to be today?09:53
ossiecheers fyrestrtr09:53
fyrestrtrsfp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:53
kmastahow do i "Make sure that you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list"09:53
micahcowanqatsi, ar is in the binutils package09:53
qatsi_lupine: strange, i have coreutils installed09:54
fyrestrtrSleepySocks: no, it will be in November.09:54
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qatsimicahcowan: ok, ill try that :)09:54
sfpthanks fyrestrtr!09:54
fyrestrtr!schedule > SleepySocks09:54
kjmkmasta : sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list - uncomment the lines with universe and multiverse on them.  run apt-get update09:54
Madeyebrentdax, How large the swap can be ? I mean if I have 5GB of RAM can I create a 5GB swap ? or it doesn't work ?09:54
ossiefyrestrtr, that doesnt work, its like it has a password09:54
fyrestrtrMadeye: swap can be as large as you want.09:54
fyrestrtrossie: it doesn't unless you set one yourself.09:54
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Nutubuntulamego (or anyone):  Okay ... having installed rubygems -- should I install rails via Synaptic? or via rubygems "gem instlal rails -y" ?09:55
ossieits a fresh install fyrestrtr09:55
fyrestrtrossie: did you install both the client and the server? (sudo apt-get install mysql-server)09:55
ladydoorSleepySocks: no, not until october09:55
kmastathank you kjm09:55
kjm5 GB is huge.....with 5 GB of RAM, do you really need that much swap though?  The system will rarely need it.....unless you do things that fill that 5 GBs....09:55
marshall_booyaka] 09:55
ossiefyrestrtr, yes i have the server running09:55
SleepySockshi ladydoor, according to this, its today for knot2  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule09:55
brentdaxMadeye: Don't waste much space on a swap file.  The sorts of loads that servers see basically mean that if it starts swapping, it's already lost.09:56
fyrestrtrossie: then just type this mysql -u root -p (hit enter, it will ask for a password, hit enter -- don't type anything, just hit enter)09:56
kjmAlthough, starting a "swap = 1.5*Physical memory is not a debate I need/want to start.09:56
kjmkmasta : no problem09:56
Madeyebrent, 5GB is reasonable ?09:56
SleepySocksI was wondering if anyone has heard.09:56
qatsibrb09:56
sethkbrentdax, depends on the number of users and the amount of ram.  I wouldn't say that is a generally true statement09:56
kmastakjm: sometimes i just need things spelled out for me09:56
fyrestrtrSleepySocks: it would be wise to ask in #ubuntu+109:56
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gnomefreak5 gigs of ram you dont *need* any swap09:56
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kjmkmasta : don't we all from time to time :)09:56
sethkMadeye, 5 gb is a lot09:56
SleepySocksKinda funny a bot on channel channed sent me a private message with the link to that release schedule - cool..09:57
Hexidigital_ossie::  try using your sudo password... mysql -u root -p {enter} {enter password}09:57
ossiefyrestrtr, definatley doesnt work,,,, i haveinstalled and used mysql before, but cant remeber how i did it last time, it is asking for a password this time though09:57
kmastakjm: tru dat09:57
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ossiecheers K09:57
ossiecheers Hexidigital_09:57
_lupinecompile 5 revisions of KDE from source (in parallel) and then say that ;)09:57
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ajhtiredwolfhey, could anyone help me with my ati drivers?09:57
fyrestrtrossie: again, when it asks you for a password, just hit enter. If that doesn't work, then you have set a password and you must go through the steps in resetting it.09:57
sethkMadeye, unless you have hundreds of users, you probably won't need swap09:57
ladydoor!anyone09:57
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:57
_lupinebut yes, for normal use 5GB is more than enough to do without swap09:57
_lupinemight as well have a bit though, just in case09:58
sethkMadeye, swap can also be added using the normal file system, although the access speed for that type of swap is a lot slower09:58
micahcowansomeone remind me how to get reverse-depends on a package?09:58
ossiei think i might just unistall and reinstall might be easier i think09:58
_lupine(since you've presumably got a few TB of disc space spare ;) )09:58
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ossiethanks for yoru help though guys09:58
fyrestrtrI don't know about that, my 2GB RAM machine hits the swap a lot, especially when running two or more java applications.09:58
sethkMadeye, but normal file system swap is ok as a just in case type of thing09:58
Madeyesethk, seems I should read more on partioning heh09:58
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sethkMadeye, possibly.  the other thing is, if you have a ton of disk space, there isn't much cost to saving a chunk for swap09:59
kjmIf you have 5 GB on physical drive to spare, it wouldn't hurt to partition out that much swap.09:59
kjm^_^ What he said09:59
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_lupine^^^ what they said ^^^ ;)09:59
MadeyeWell09:59
ajhtiredwolfI just convert part of my disk to fat32 and use that as swap09:59
MadeyeThank you guys, you were really helpful :-)09:59
_lupine?!09:59
fyrestrtrajhtiredwolf: swap is its own partition type.10:00
_lupinewhat happened to 0x82 ?10:00
kjmYou can't use fat32 as swap .. .. . swap is swap.10:00
ajhtiredwolfI mean as a swap drive10:00
fyrestrtrajhtiredwolf: you can't do that either.10:00
ladydoorajhtiredwolf: swap is a different filesystem10:00
ajhtiredwolfheh, i dont think you get what im saying10:00
kjmstill no.   You need to allocate x GB as SWAP, which has its own filesystem10:00
ajhtiredwolfI use it to "swap" files between linux and windows10:00
fyrestrtrunless you mean swap as in 'I'll save files there to swap between windows and linux'10:00
ajhtiredwolfyes10:00
Intangirajhtiredwolf: ya you can do that10:00
ladydoorajhtiredwolf: ah. that's not "swap," that's "shared"10:01
SleepySockscan't wait for zfs filesystem10:01
kjmah, well.  Then, yes :)10:01
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Intangiralso i heard of a program on windows that reads ext310:01
ajhtiredwolflol, I use the word swap :-P10:01
sewihello, where can I find xfonts-base-transcoded package with fixed fonts? In previous releases this package was present but in dapper I cannot find it in repositories. Any idea?10:01
ladydoorSleepySocks: whats's zfs10:01
ladydoorajhtiredwolf: meh10:01
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_lupineaaargh, self definitions ;)10:01
ompaulSleepySocks, please go to #ubuntu+1 for edgy stuff10:01
nagyv_I have just installed ubuntu breezy on an old IBM thinkpad 600. To be able to upgrade it I should find out the MAC address of its pcmcia ethernet card. (It has to be registered with the firewall.) How can I do this?10:01
fyrestrtrsewi: apt-cache search should help10:01
NutubuntuRuby on rails question -- should I install rails via Synaptic? or via rubygems "gem instlal rails -y" ? Or does it even matter which?10:01
kjmIntangir : Yes, windows has an ext3 driver.  But, it is quite unstable, and I don't think you get write permissions with it.10:01
lamegoIntangir, google.com ext2 windows10:01
ajhtiredwolfSo hey does anyone know about ATI drivers in here? Getting them to work heh.10:01
fyrestrtrnagyv_: ifconfig -a10:01
lamegokjm, it is stable and you do have write permissions with it10:01
sethkladydoor, zfs is a new nifty file system in solaris 1010:01
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Intangirwhats different about zfs?10:02
fyrestrtrajhtiredwolf: what about them?10:02
ladydoorsethk: ah10:02
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Dr_Willisajhtiredwolf,  all i know i leaned from the !ati bot url10:02
sethkgladydz meaning zettabyte10:02
nagyv_fyrestrtr: thx10:02
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sethk?10:02
SleepySockshang on ladydoor, I'll get a link.10:02
kjmlamego : Alright.  ty.  Haven't used it in awhile.  Last I tried ext3 support on windows, it wasn't.10:02
sewifyrestrtr: I've done this and there are not there, on the ubuntu packages this package is only for releases previous than dapper10:02
ajhtiredwolfwell I am actually running fedora at the moment, but its the same installing them with ubuntu and fedora right?10:02
sethkI meant z meaning zettabyte.  must have hit tab there  :)10:02
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sethkajhtiredwolf, same binary drivers, yes10:02
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SleepySockshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zfs10:03
fyrestrtrajhtiredwolf: not really, they are the same drivers, but the install process is a bit different.10:03
Dr_Willisajhtiredwolf,  fedora is rpm based... and ubuntu is apt based. :P so other then being completely diffrent systems.. its the same. :)10:03
lamegoajhtiredwolf, but the install process is not the same10:03
motshello, i want to install ubuntu server, how much Harddiskspace does the default server install need?10:03
ajhtiredwolfwell id ask them in #fedora... but they are evil over there :P10:03
fyrestrtrmots: I believe 5 GB10:03
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SleepySocksyou know how apples new lepaord is suppose to have a time machine feature built into the filesystem...that what zfs can do10:03
lamego5 GBs is for the desktop :P10:03
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fyrestrtrajhtiredwolf: try your luck in #ubuntu-offtopic10:03
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ajhtiredwolffyretrtr: i'll give it a go10:04
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SleepySocksbye everyone...10:04
_lupineDr_Willis: apt-rpm + synaptic10:04
_lupineproblem solved10:05
fyrestrtryou know, I have tried in vain to get sun to allow me to download solaris 10 -- they just won't let me. How does that work in their 'open source' strategy?!10:05
klassicddoes anyone else just see HTML text on this page10:05
klassicdhttp://saaboc1.reachlocal.net/10:05
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Dr_Willis_lupine,  blasphmy! :)10:05
Tom__Hi, When I try Gnomebaker in Ubuntu, it says that a plugin is missing for audio/mp3. Any idea?10:05
_lupine:D10:05
fyrestrtrTom__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:05
Dr_Willisfyrestrtr,  i downloaded it.. it stank. :P10:05
Tom__Thanks. Looking10:06
fyrestrtrDr_Willis: does it come with the java sun desktop?10:06
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Dr_Willisfyrestrtr,  no idea - i ran it for like 3 days.. and hated it..   I  cant even rember what desktop it used.. CDE i thought.10:07
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naahttp://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/  <-- ubuntu always wins10:07
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pianoboy3333Does anyone here have experience with acid rip?10:07
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jbroomewhen i was in college10:07
jbroomeoh wait, that was ripped on acid10:07
_lupine is the guy who was looking for 'ar' still here?10:08
_lupine it's in binutils10:08
finalbetaArg, I'm getting so sick of this. Sometimes my desktop becomes semie unresponsive. I can still do stuff in programs, but I can't switch betwene programs. Windows no longer move/minimize/maximise.10:08
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micahcowanthat was quintin, _lupine10:08
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micahcowanand yeah, I already told him :p10:08
_lupineoh, ok :)10:08
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finalbetaI've poster like 10 bugs already, and only one had a useless reply10:08
ladydoorfinalbeta: what wm/de do you use?10:08
_lupinecba to read the backscroll10:08
fyrestrtrfinalbeta: are you running xgl?10:08
motsso noone knows, how much space the server install takes?10:08
_lupinemots: around 500MB10:09
_lupineerm, I'll just check10:09
_lupinesorry, no. 1.9GB10:09
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fyrestrtrhah told you it was close to 5 GB :P10:09
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micahcowanfinalbeta, hopefully 10 bugs on different issues, right? Don't lose hope. There are 50k bugs, and only a couple hundred folks on the bug squad. It takes a while to get to some things.10:09
admin_whats a good, easy graphical backup program?10:09
mots2GB?10:09
finalbetaYep 10 diffrend issues10:09
_lupine(at least, that's what my server is at right now. Obviously, "some" is given to other stuff - but not a great deal)10:10
finalbetaI'm using gnome, not running xgl10:10
motswell, i'll take debian network install then10:10
micahcowanfinalbeta, ooc, what version of ubuntu?10:10
synicfinalbeta: you using nfs or samba or anything?10:10
_lupinecall it 2GB and you'll definitely get a semi-minimal server install into it10:10
kmastawhen i type "chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86_64.run ./ati-driver-installer-8.27.10 --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" it says "chmod: unrecognized option `--buildpkg'"10:10
admin_whats a good, easy graphical backup program?10:10
ladydoor!repeat10:10
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience10:10
hanshengedgy flash plugin can't view?10:10
mots_lupine: i only want to have a kernel and apt10:10
ladydoorhansheng: #ubuntu+110:10
lamegokmasta, because you don't know what you are doing, chmod is a single command :)10:10
finalbetamicahcowan, ubuntu dapper 6.06 fully patched , synic not at the moment.10:10
motsi want to install freevo on it10:10
fyrestrtrkmasta: put && between .run and ./10:11
opexocAbout some other distro ( maybe someone knows ): Does Slackware support some program which can satisfy dependencies of package which we would like to install ?10:11
micahcowanfinalbeta, ooc, what's your launchpad acct name?10:11
kmastaOH WAIT, misread something10:11
finalbetamicahcowan, finalbeta10:11
fyrestrtrfinalbeta: how much ram, how much hard disk, what kind of video driver?10:11
admin_whats a good, easy graphical backup program?10:11
ladydooropexoc: isn't there a #slackware channel?10:11
_lupineTBH, not much difference between debian-2.6 kernel and ubuntu server dists10:11
_lupine..except debian has webmin!10:11
_lupinemots: debootstrap is what you want then10:11
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_lupine200MB10:11
opexocladydoor: ok10:11
motswell10:11
motssounds good10:11
fyrestrtr!backup > admin_10:11
ossieAccess denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) kepp getting this but i definatley set no password10:11
micahcowanfinalbeta, j-greenhouse?10:12
lamego!backup > lamego10:12
finalbetafyrestrtr, it's ati, but I don't believe it's the video driver, I can still work inside the current program, just can't switch between programs. Windows are unresponsive.10:12
finalbetamicahcowan, yes10:12
ladydooradmin_: please quit with the repeating. as ubotu said, if nobody knows, nobody will answer you10:12
colapsohola10:12
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fyrestrtrossie: where do you get that?10:12
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ossiefrom the terminal fyrestrtr10:12
fyrestrtrossie: using which command?10:12
_lupineyou'll get the very basics - of course, if you want even more minimal, you could probably fit it onto 32MB10:12
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ossiesudo mysql -u root -p10:12
fyrestrtrossie: no sudo10:13
ossieI tried adding my user to the mysql group and it still dont work10:13
finalbetafyrestrtr, the freesing of windows is on a dell inspiron 8200 laptop 40 gig , 512Mb ram. Restarting x server fixes it.10:13
ossiedont work without sudo either fyrestrtr10:13
NutubuntuI have a ruby on rails question -- should I install rails via Synaptic? or via rubygems "gem instlal rails -y" ? Or does it even matter which?10:13
ossiewhoops10:13
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ossiei did set password and i just remembered it10:13
fyrestrtrossie: then you have set a password.10:13
ossiesorry for the time wasting guys10:13
ossiecheers fyrestrtr10:13
fyrestrtrokay, next time -- do something ... like remember passwords :P10:14
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colapsohola10:15
finalbetaI think it's a gnome problem. just like this one : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/5635910:15
fyrestrtrfinalbeta: it happens randomly you say? How much swap do you have?10:15
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finalbetafyrestrtr, 512Mb10:15
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fyrestrtrfinalbeta: mmm ....10:15
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fyrestrtrfinalbeta: in my tests, things like that are a swap problem. Activate the system monitor applet, and watch the hard disk sensor when this happens, if you hard disk is spinning like crazy, increase your swap amount.10:16
DogZernPossible to install Ubuntu without using a LiveCD at all?10:16
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erUSUL!alternate10:17
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.10:17
jribDogZern: you can use the alternate cd10:17
fyrestrtrfinalbeta: on my system with 512 RAM, 1 GB swap, 80 GB hdd and ATI card, swap gets hit a *lot*10:17
NickGarveywhat is the command for the installer on the live cd?10:17
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motsdoes anyone know a good howto for debootstrap10:17
_lupinecontrarily, my Kubuntu with 512MB RAM and 2.5GB swap gets almost no swapping at all10:17
fyrestrtrmots: people in #debian should10:17
_lupinemots: the debian.org install guide has a good section10:17
sewiCan anybody check if you have in Dapper such a font as: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-2 (for example using xfontsel)10:17
ladydoorNickGarvey: it's on the desktop10:17
_lupinejust edit the repo you point to10:17
finalbetafyrestrtr, when it happens I will not be able to start the monitor. I can leave it on top I guess, bit nasty to work then.10:18
_lupineor "man debootstrap", of course :)10:18
ladydoorNickGarvey: it'll say "install" or something...i don't remember10:18
NickGarveyladydoor: I'm doing it through a X forwarded ssh session10:18
fyrestrtr_lupine: you probably don't have the same use profile as I do :) I'm a bit abusive with my pcs.10:18
fyrestrtrfinalbeta: just activate the panel applet.10:18
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sewiIf yes, what package gives these fonts?10:18
fyrestrtrfinalbeta: you don't need to run the actual monitor.10:18
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_lupinetrue enough, I guess. Mine don't do too much more demanding than the occasional kernel recompile10:18
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jribsewi: I have something like it, I have one with a 1, one with an 11, and one with a 16 instead of yours that ends with a 210:19
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ladydoorNickGarvey: ohh10:19
ladydoor*shrug*10:19
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fyrestrtr_lupine: I run dual screens, on average two database servers, two java applications, plus evolution, firefox, four or five tabs in gnome-terminal, and a couple of nautilus windows open. With that, and a program run, my swap get hit a lot.10:19
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_lupineprobably wouldn't be the cause of X dying a deaded death, though10:20
_lupineah... java and evolution10:20
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fyrestrtr_lupine: the killer combo :)10:20
NickGarveyladydoor: its ubiquity btw10:20
AsadRi get a Grub Error 17 whenever i try to boot, how do i re-install GRUB? my linux partition is /dev/hdd110:20
jribsewi: if you tell me how I can find the corresponding file to the font on my system I can lookup the package10:20
_lupineso it's not that you're doing a lot, it's just that you're using, ahem, "complex" programs to do it with :)10:20
Tom__fyrestrtr. That worked. Gnomebaker is cool with mp3 now. Thanks!10:20
fyrestrtr!grub > AsadR10:20
KLarthI can't get speakers on HP laptop w/ Polk audio to work right.  Noise comes out, but it loops.  Any help?10:20
ladydoorNickGarvey: oh, cool10:20
sewijrib: this is the problem I have, I need the fonts ending with -2. In the previous releases I used to install xfonts-base-transcoded package which is not available in dapper10:20
DogZernHow exactly do you install without the CD? I got the information 'alternate' but it seems there's still a CD involved. Having my CD-Reader well.. "destroyed".10:21
fyrestrtrKLarth: sounds like speakers are working fine then.10:21
fyrestrtr!installation10:21
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues10:21
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_lupineOn average, I'm thunderbird + firefox + one or two background games; amarok; openoffice; kopete and konversation10:21
MetaMorfoziShow can my friend enable the ht-using in ubuntu?10:21
sewijrib: the file with the fonts should be named 6x12-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz10:21
_lupinetypically I use 60% ram and no swap10:21
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sewijrib: at least it was named like this in previous releases10:21
fyrestrtrMetaMorfoziS: tell him to sudo apt-get install linux-68610:22
KLarthfyrestrtr: can't plahy10:22
finalbetaok thnx for the info fyrestrtr , will try.10:22
MasqyDoes someone use VLC here? Can you check if the subtitles disappear after 2-3 seconds when you pause a .avi file?10:22
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jribsewi: all I have is a /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/clR6x12-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz that comes from xfonts-base10:22
KLarthcan't play music10:22
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fyrestrtrKLarth: have you checked the wiki to see if there are any known issues with your laptop?10:22
KLarthYes.  No known issues10:23
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MetaMorfoziSthx!10:23
sewijrib: so I don't know why this package was removed from ubuntu and is still in debian in all releses sarge testing and unstable10:23
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jribsewi: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfonts-core/+bug/39560 if you didn't file this, you may want to comment10:24
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Aar0n444Hi10:25
flodineanyone running a intel with 4mb cache'10:25
ladydoorhi10:25
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fyrestrtrKLarth: what have you tried as far as troubleshooting?10:25
flodinei need help10:25
Aar0n444How can I install ubuntu on my laptop when the cd drive is dead?10:25
fyrestrtr!installation > Aar0n44410:25
gekko`does anybody know how to paste the clipboard from a X-Server to a VT?10:25
flodinewill ubuntu support 4mb of cache10:25
Aar0n444Thanks10:25
matthewfhow much more of a overhead does normal ubuntu have over xubuntu ?10:25
matthewfin general that is10:26
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sewijrib: thanks for the link10:26
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adz21cHi, wondering if someone could help me with an issue. I seem to be having an issue with sound. Teamspeak doesn't seem to pick up sound information (just mutes mic and output) also I seem to fail cedega audio tests. To solve this I found I can delete /var/lib/alsa/asound.state then reboot and everything works. However after rebooting a second time teamspeak and cedega fail again, same fix solves this, but frankly it's getting annoy10:26
adz21c this?10:26
fyrestrtrgekko`: you mean, copy something from X, to a console session? Or copy something from X into a terminal session?10:26
eliransup10:26
phisher1Hi10:26
Jack_SparrowSorry all, I had to run earlier.. Irealized it was 11:30 and I had to be across town by 12..  I did not mean to leave anyone hanging with a problem.10:26
teekay_hi10:26
klassicddoes anyone know of a plugin that will allow you to change file permissions with nautilus when connected via ftp or ssh?10:26
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MrFeetiowhen i download files to my desktop they dont show up on my desktop, does anyone know whats wrong?10:27
gekko`fyrestrtr: i mean copy something from X to a terminal session (ctrl+alt+f1)10:27
fyrestrtrklassicd: if you are connected via ssh, use chmod to change permissions.10:27
phisher1secret10:27
eliranok10:27
Jack_SparrowMrFeetio: how are you downloading them and from where?10:27
ladydoorgekko`: you might be able to do that using gnu screen as an intermediary10:27
teekay_out of interest10:27
ladydoorgekko`: by detatching and then re-attaching10:28
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ladydoorgekko`: though if you want a fullscreen terminal, you might check out ratpoison window manager instead10:28
klassicdfyrestrtr: possible with nautilus?10:28
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ladydoorgekko`: (better text resolution)10:28
karlwhat is the package i need to start compiling stuff?10:28
ladydoorkarl: build-essential10:28
fyrestrtryou could try something like cat 'whatever' >> /dev/tty0110:28
karlthx10:28
lekshi there, im getting this;10:28
leks[17179611.856000]  mtrr: no more MTRRs available10:28
leks[17179611.856000]  mtrr: no more MTRRs available10:28
leks[17179611.856000]  mtrr: no more MTRRs available10:28
fyrestrtrklassicd: you can't use nautilus over ssh unless you use something like vnc10:28
leksany ideas?10:28
theBishopwhat's up with sound not working in Firefox?10:29
jribtheBishop: in flash?10:29
theBishopjrib, yep10:29
finalbetatheBishop, if you are talking flash, it uses OSS. you can use aoss10:29
MrFeetioJack_Sparrow its a .iso from gentoo.org and im useing firefox, but it happens with any file i download to the desktop10:29
jrib!flash > theBishop10:29
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gekko`ladydoor: ok, I'll check that, thanks10:29
acidianwell, got wow running, but not with the best graphics XD10:29
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MrFeetioJack_Sparrow if i download it to a file it works fine10:29
acidiancant even chose anti aliasing10:29
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fyrestrtracidian: what video card?10:30
Jack_SparrowMrFeetio: youmean dl to a folder?10:30
acidianradeon mobility x160010:30
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dalfz_how do i uninstall a .deb package i installed manually?10:30
fyrestrtrand you have the drivers installed for it? you have hardware acceleration?10:30
rummikwhy does it keep opening my mounted ftp stuff in firefox?10:30
acidianfyrestrtr: aye10:30
Jack_SparrowMrFeetio: And you are running Ubuntu now?10:30
MrFeetioJack_Sparrow it doesent show even if i show hiiden files, yes if i dl somewhere else its fine10:30
MrFeetioyes i am10:30
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fyrestrtrdalfz_: apt-get remove foo10:30
fyrestrtracidian: are you running xgl?10:31
acidianfyrestrtr: dont know :P10:31
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Jack_SparrowMrFeetio: very strange.. and full search shows nothing..10:31
fyrestrtracidian: then you aren't :P -- are you running wow in opengl mode or in directx mode?10:31
dalfz_fyrestrtr, thanks10:31
acidianfyrestrtr: opengl10:31
acidianshould be anyway10:31
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Jack_SparrowYou looked with nautilus, you looked with ls in term after cd/Desktop etc?10:32
visik7will ubuntu adopt click n run ?10:32
fyrestrtracidian: you need to run it with --opengl or something to force opengl, also are you running it in windowed mode or fullscreen?10:32
ladydoorvisik7: meaning?10:32
acidianfyrestrtr: I am doing that, fullscreen10:32
visik7ladydoor: uh ?10:32
visik7click n run by linspire10:32
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visik7you know ?10:32
fyrestrtrvisik7: nope, it won't.10:32
ladydoorvisik7: oh. no i don't. sorry10:32
MrFeetioJack_Sparrow: i can paste thing to the desktop and it works fine10:32
jbroomeugh hope not10:32
Jack_SparrowMrFeetio: You looked with nautilus, you looked with ls in term after cd/Desktop etc?10:33
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Qvazzlerwhois Jack_Sparrow (real question)10:33
ompaul!offtopic10:33
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:33
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roboa1983hi, i've been trying to run ssh and i cannot access certain ip addresses. furthermore, those people cannot access me as well. i've tried changing /etc/hosts as these have done, but it doesn't seem to work10:33
finalbetafyrestrtr, I just had the problem again. The meters show no abnormal disk/cpu/swap activity (swap stayed at 5%). Altho the last two times I was watching Discovery channel on totem (My ISP streams it). I gues it's possible a few of the other times I was watching a movie. (but I'm fairy certain not every time)10:33
woodgrainis ubuntu 6.06 LTS the same as dapper??10:34
Jack_SparrowI am who I am and that is all that I am I'm Popeye the sailor man.. beep beep10:34
Qvazzleryes?10:34
ladydoorwoodgrain: yeah10:34
ompaulwoodgrain, it is10:34
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Qvazzlerlol10:34
Jack_SparrowSorry all10:34
MrFeetiowell its not all that important i plan i switching to gentoo10:34
ompaulJack_Sparrow, your allowed10:34
woodgrainompaul, yeah, thanks, that was a dumb question.10:34
woodgrainladydoor, thanks.10:34
Jack_SparrowMrFeetio: But you didnt answer the question10:34
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ladydoorwoodgrain: np10:34
ompaulwoodgrain, not knowing is not a crime :)10:34
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matthewfdoes ubuntu use a diffrent package manager as standard then xubuntu ?10:35
MrFeetioyes i did try that10:35
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Jack_SparrowMrFeetio: Thank you10:35
lonranhello10:35
lonrana frontend for direct connect?10:35
acidianfyrestrtr: my biggest problem is that I get an error everytime I try to change a video setting ingame10:36
ompaulmatthewf, there are many ways to update packages, synaptic is available for both, but I prefer command lines but that is just me10:36
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acidianfyrestrtr: error says something about it trying to access memory at 00000000, which isnt a memory slot10:36
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Jack_SparrowI have a whole file of ompaul's command line tools :)10:37
ladydoorlonran: there's direct connect for linux10:37
lonranthe client, yes, but a frontend?10:37
matthewfi take it as Gnome is the default DE for ubuntu, its more integrated and nice then KDE/Xfe are ?10:37
ladydoorlonran: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2837810:37
ladydoorlonran: i'm talking about a graphikal version10:38
Chousukeacidian: the program has a bug.10:38
ladydoorlonran: it's not a frontend to the text-based program, it's an entirely different program10:38
DogZern!   C:\Documents and Settings\Tibia\Skrivbord\grub_for_dos-0.4.2pre8(4).zip: The archive is either in unknown format or damaged10:38
DogZernGrml10:38
lonranladydoor:  ok, i see, very nice10:38
ladydoorlonran: :-)10:38
acidianChousuke: yeah, I guesse, but I found a config file now that I think I can edit for the purposes I need10:38
woodgrainis it okay to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade to dapper or is this crazy?10:38
roboa1983any ideas on how to solve: port 22: No route to host?10:39
Chousukeacidian: it dereferences a null pointer. It's a programming error. :/10:39
jrib!upgrade > woodgrain10:39
Chousukeacidian: file a bug report10:39
Jack_SparrowDogZern: do you have unzip installed?10:39
acidianChousuke: wow doesnt support linux, so cant realy report it :/10:39
DogZernI've tried Winrar, 7-Zip10:39
jimcooncatroboa1983, can you ping the host?10:39
Chousukeacidian: oh. :/10:39
MrFeetioif i partition my HD for ubuntu from 250g to 100g( i have like 80g used) and install gentoo on the remaining 150g will i lose data?10:39
Chousukeacidian: wine might be causing it then10:40
Jack_SparrowDogZern: have you moved that file into ubuntu to unzip it?10:40
acidianChousuke: yeah, but I wouldnt know how to fix it XD10:40
_lupineMrFeetio: not if you do it properly10:40
roboa1983jimcooncat: no, the Destination Host is Unreachable10:40
DogZernTrying to install Ubunto through my harddrive at the moment. Following, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows10:40
roboa1983jimcooncat: although i can ping other hosts10:41
Jack_SparrowDogZern: Sorry for the confusion, I just got in the door and I'm still waiting for the ac to kick in10:41
MrFeetio_lupine: how would i do it wrong?10:41
DogZernHah :-)10:41
_lupinelots of ways10:41
DogZernNo idea why it would get corrupt, tried different downloading spots etc.10:41
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jimcooncatroboa1983, is the host on your local network?10:41
woodgrainjrib, thanks, i don't know how I didn't find that page!  Thanks a bunch talke later when I'm done.10:41
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MrFeetiowell im gonna install gentoo now cya10:41
derossiehh10:42
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roboa1983jimcooncat: it is.10:42
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derossihi are there in hungarian pepole?10:42
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ladydoor!hungarian10:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hungarian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:43
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nibbyhi, when i play quake3 in ubuntu after 10 minute the screen do a kind of fade out so i have to do alt+enter then click somewhere on desktop then return in quake with alt+enter what i should do to stop that ?10:43
harisundDoes anybody know of any cross platform note taking application? I am looking for something that I can use to take notes on both my Windows and Ubuntu platforms?10:43
jimcooncatroboa1983, can you try doing a ping FROM the host to your workstation?10:43
woodgrain!upgrade > me10:43
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tabmanusing OOo in Ubuntu if I run the following macro: http://tabishfayyaz.googlepages.com/HelloWorldMacro.png , i get the following exception: http://tabishfayyaz.googlepages.com/MacroException.png. This does not happens whiile using OOo in Windows10:43
Jack_SparrowDogZern: I dont see the file you are trying to unzip on that page anywhere10:43
derossiquake 4 is better..10:43
roboa1983jimcooncat: how would that be typed in the terminal?10:44
woodgrain!upgrade10:44
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.10:44
Jack_SparrowDogZern: IS there a reason you are not doing a normal install10:44
woodgrain!update10:44
DogZernYes.10:44
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DogZernDon't got a CD reader installed so :-)10:44
e-typeevenin all10:44
jimcooncatroboa1983, you'd have to be on the hosts terminal, and ping yourmachinename10:44
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DogZernWindows NT/2000/XP (using Grub)10:44
DogZern    *10:44
DogZern      Download Grub For Dos from [WWW]  http://sarovar.org/download.php/672/grub_for_dos-0.4.1pre22.tar.gz10:44
jimcooncator ping your ip address10:44
nibbyhi, when i play quake3 in ubuntu after 10 minute the screen do a kind of fade out so i have to do alt+enter then click somewhere on desktop then return in quake with alt+enter what i should do to stop that ?10:44
Jack_SparrowDogZern: That is different from the file name you showed earlier.10:45
micahcowannibby, disable the screensaver10:45
tabmanthis is a UBUNTU specific issues, you need to look at it10:45
ompaul!paste10:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:45
e-typenibby: sounds like yr screensave?10:45
Charon1Is there a way to install skype via the package manager or does it have to be installed manually ?10:45
roboa1983jimcooncat: I can't, the others aren't here and i don't have accounts for their computers10:45
nibbye-type: well, no animation just a fade out and my screensave are on random10:46
derossiwhen i play quake 3 i can't make a screenshot...why?10:46
derossii try f12..10:46
tabmanusing OOo in Ubuntu if I run the following macro: http://tabishfayyaz.googlepages.com/HelloWorldMacro.png , i get the following exception: http://tabishfayyaz.googlepages.com/MacroException.png. This does not happens whiile using OOo in Windows10:46
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micahcowantabman, file a bug.10:47
jimcooncatroboa1983, ok, there's really not much more to do other than check physical network connections to make sure everything's plugged in. If there's a router in between your computer and the host, then that's probably the cause.10:47
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tabmanmicahcowan: where ?10:47
naathere are computers that can boot from usb flash drives, right?10:47
micahcowantabman, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu. You'll need to set up an account first.10:47
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roboa1983jimcooncat: the thing is that the other computers can communicate with each other, while mine for some reason, is still not available, but thanks for the help10:48
micahcowannaa, sure. It depends what the bios is capable of.10:48
whazillanaa u can10:48
naahmm10:48
naawhat would happen if you removed it during that?10:48
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harisundDoes anybody know of a cross platform notetaking tool?10:48
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jimcooncatroboa1983, you must be the new guy in the office ;-)10:49
fyrestrtrharisund: what do you mean by cross platform? it works in linux and windows?10:49
micahcowanharisund, Tomboy, perhaps?10:49
jimcooncatroboa1983, you might not be on the same subnet10:50
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harisundfyrestrtr: yes. micahcowan I haven't heard of that. Will give it a look, thanks10:50
e-typeCharon1: skype is non free. use a free voip application or add skype to your apt sources10:50
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jimcooncatroboa1983, in other words, your ip address like 192.168.1.1 might not see theirs, like 192.168.0.*10:50
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micahcowanharisund, I think it's gnome, but it's written in mono (C#), so may be crossplatform. I've never used it, know little about it.10:50
Charon1e-type: Thanks... I was wondering if it was in there allready10:50
harisundmicahcowan I want to take notes, and be able to share it with my friends using Windows (collaborative editing basically)10:50
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e-typeCharon1: it will never be in there, skype is non free10:51
_lupineit might even never get into the non-free repository, then ;)10:51
kingofheartsI am new to ubuntu and I just start with the 6.06 live cd. will it do 1650x1080 res in widescreen?10:51
Nutubuntuharisund:  that argues for web-based, it seems to me -- how far apart are the people you want to share notes with?10:51
micahcowanharisund, all I know about it is that it is apparently going to be part of ubuntu-desktop in edgy, is sort of a wiki, and is used by many for note-taking.10:51
Charon1e-type: no non free sources list :)10:51
eXistenZHow can I add key authentication to ssh if I've already created key pairs10:52
roboa1983jimcootcat: although, i am the new guy in the office, the ip addresses were just newly assigned, and all have same subnet. those others are using fedora, though.10:52
e-typeCharon1: won't start this ideoligic stuff :)10:52
harisundNutubuntu: same class, in university. Perhaps web based indeed is what I am looking at.10:52
Nutubuntumicahcowan & harisund: Tomboy is a wiki-like, sticky-note-like thingie that seems good for one person but not, afaik, for a gropu10:52
Nutubuntu^group10:52
_lupinemicahcowan: not yet more junk to be pulled down?!10:52
Charon1e-type: no worries. Im just looking for the lazy way out.10:52
harisundmicahcowan: ok :) Will have alook anyway.10:52
e-typeeXistenZ: tell your sshd or ssh to use your key10:52
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eXistenZe-type, thanks10:52
lamegoharisund, you could try writely10:53
e-typeeXistenZ: /etc/ssh/sshd.conf and ~/.ssh/ssh.conf10:53
harisundlamego: web based yes.. I use writely10:53
micahcowan_lupine, don't look at me. There's been a massive thread about it at ubuntu-devel.10:53
eXistenZDoes anyone know whether it is possible to transfer files using putty10:53
dalfz_what's the command to install a custom .deb package?10:53
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_lupinenot been paying attention :)10:54
harisunddalfz_: dpkg --install debname.deb10:54
micahcowandalfz_, sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb10:54
lamegoeXistenZ, no10:54
dalfz_thanks10:54
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e-typeeXistenZ: sure, there's pscp and psftp10:54
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e-typeeXistenZ: but they're strictly different apps10:55
wimpieshi all, can anybody help setting up a ZEN sleek on LInux ?10:55
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eobanb_stupid gentoo.10:55
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NutubuntuBe well, all10:55
micahcowanharisund, if tomboy doesn't match what you're looking for, I agree with Nutubuntu: you probably want web-based, maybe some sort of wiki.10:55
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Nutubuntumicahcowan ... I think he or she left10:56
m4rkanyway to do a search in a folder using ubuntu? to find a particular piece of text in a whole lot of text documents??10:56
micahcowandoh!10:56
_lupine:p10:56
djm62or monkeyGTD or tiddlywiki10:56
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_lupinewhat's wrong with gentoo?10:56
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Nutubuntumicahcowan - I'm wondering, though, about web-based collaborative tools myself10:56
_lupinem4rk: find <folder> -name <file>10:56
lamegothere are non web based alternatives, also multiplatform10:56
lamegolike Gobby10:56
m4rk_lupine: where do I put the text I want to find in that command?10:57
Nutubuntulamego:  I'll look that up, also writely10:57
djm62lamego: tiddlywiki and variants are damn good10:57
jribm4rk: use grep if you want to search inside10:57
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SpCombwe need globals on freenode as well for new ubuntu or debian releases :(10:57
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lamegowell, not all wikis are real real time10:57
jribm4rk: grep -R text /path/to/directory10:57
Nutubuntudjm62:  tiddlywiki gets slow as it gets big, at least on my (old) computer ... do you have that experience too?10:57
roboa1983jimcootcat: thx!! bye10:57
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cemal_m4rk, grep -i -r '<search_text> <folder_name>10:57
_lupineMediawiki is good10:57
ne78How can i import all my contacts from my bluetooth GSM ?10:58
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lamegoi mean, most are not, they dont allow to edit the same page at the same time by differente users10:58
m4rkOK thanks dudes10:58
_lupineeasy to set up as well - and actually manages to look good :D10:58
lamegohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_real-time_editor10:58
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djm62Nutubuntu: not as yet... I'm trying to hack the calendar into something more usable.  I seriously like the idea of re-editing Javascript on a webpage though10:58
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qatsianyone here got his unreal tournament 2004 working ?10:59
eobanb_er, i hate when i accidentally exit x-chat.10:59
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ompauleobanb, so do it on purpose :)10:59
lamegolol10:59
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NutubuntuThere seem to be a lot of tiddlywiki variants, djm62 -- I was looking at a couple that are geared to "GTD" one way or another -- but they got big, quickly, and when they did, I thought they got pretty slow. Maybe worse in memory than it actually was at the time ...11:00
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_lupineqatsi: http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Unreal_Tournament_200411:00
notworkini need to know how to format my hard drive with ubuntu installed11:00
_lupine(I don't actually have the game)11:00
_lupinenotworkin: mkfs does the trick11:00
GomezDenHow do I change the splash screen? (the one that shows up once you log in)11:00
lamegodoes anyonw knows a challenge-response extension for thunderbird ?11:00
notworkini dont know what that is11:00
Nutubuntulamego:  Interesting wikipedia page, t/y11:01
djm62Nutubuntu: I'm using monkeyGTD atm.  I'm  thinking a cull/dump of older tasks might be worth writing11:01
Jack_Sparrownotworkin: a partition that ubuntu is on or another11:01
_lupineman mkfs will tell you what it is11:01
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qatsi_lupine: thank you :) but its supposed to run without cedega...as far as i know :p i mean, i already installed it, but i cant get it to run (strange)...11:01
notworkini need someone to explain it.. i had a boot disk but it wont boot and i think its cause ubuntu is on it11:01
Nutubuntudjm62:  just downloaded monkeyGTD last night :) -- also d3, which I kind of like11:01
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qatsi_lupine: sorry, first i should've read the page you gave me :p hehe11:01
notworkinim sorry... i kinda need a walk through of a sort... i was able to when windows was on... with fdisk. but i am confused now...11:02
NutubuntuSorry to be all off-topic, I'm going to be quiet now until I can get back "on" topic :)11:02
flodineanyone know if ubuntu will support 4 mb of cache'11:02
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djm62Nutubuntu: if you know any javascript, -offtopic?11:02
_lupinenotworking: fdisk won't format. If you're after repartitioning (what fdisk does), then linux also has an fdisk11:02
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GomezDenAnyone know how to change the Gnome Splash Screen?11:02
notworkinwhere can i get that fdisk and can i boot it from a cd11:02
Jack_Sparrownotworkin: I dont understand your question or what you are trying to do11:03
_lupineyou just run "fdisk"11:03
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_lupinehowever, you're much better off reading the manpages and understanding them, rather than blindly following commands from me11:03
notworkinin the terminal11:03
e-typeGomezDen: edit it in gconf-editor11:03
_lupineyes11:03
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_lupineyou'll need to sudo it11:03
GomezDene-type: thanks11:03
notworkini typed that and a list came up11:03
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notworkinbut nothing really happened11:03
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notworkinoh11:03
notworkinok11:03
GomezDene-type: Gnome site was saying gconftools-211:03
chris449hi, i just installed vlc but i can't find it? i'm using kde, so the path on the website doesn't exist11:03
notworkinlets see11:03
_lupineand specify the device you want to fdisk (/dev/hda ?)11:03
_lupinejust... read the manpages first11:03
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_lupineand be careful :)11:04
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usrhello clever people. how come I not be able to use a blank password for my useraccount?11:04
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sethknotworkin, try   fdisk -l /dev/hda    the -l prints something, and is safe11:04
notworkinum ok... but i want it all gone anyway11:04
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notworkinlol11:04
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jacquesDr_Willis: me again. I keep getting the same error when i change the xorg.conf file. can i send you the error log and maybe you can help me out11:04
notworkinok11:04
sethknotworkin, gone is easy.  getting it back when it's gone may not be  :)11:04
chris449the path for gnome is applications>sound and media>vlc but in kde that doesn't exist? so how do i run vlc?11:04
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notworkinwell i have nothing really on my computer11:05
notworkini just installed ubuntu to experiment11:06
notworkini have a cd if i want it back11:06
sethkchris449, you can always run it from alt-f211:06
notworkinbut right now i want windows 2k on it11:06
notworkinand it wont work11:06
sethkchris449, or from a terminal11:06
eXistenZe-type, I copied my public key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys . Is that what I only should do?11:06
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e-typeeXistenZ: public key goes into any account where you should have access to11:07
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thyboanyone has an idea of when the skype repository will work?11:07
notworkinuh... i dont know what i did11:07
jacquesDr_Willis: me again. I keep getting the same error when i change the xorg.conf file. can i send you the error log and maybe you can help me out11:07
e-typeeXistenZ: private key must be kept in a lucriously safe place to proove you're you11:07
notworkini typed fdisk /dev/hda11:07
notworkinand then 'deleted a partition'11:07
eXistenZe-type, yeah I copied the public key there.11:07
eXistenZe-type, in the target machine11:07
ompaulthybo, it has been found by some that the beta for debian on the site is rather good11:07
notworkinbut ubuntu was still running whehn i did that11:07
notworkinand it says its deleted11:07
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MetaMorfoziSwhy the firefox from repo is bad ?11:07
thyboyes i am loooking for the beta11:07
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notworkinso i'm confused lol11:07
Dr_Willisjacques,  post it on pastebin.com so others can see it as well11:08
notworkinnope... its not gone11:08
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thybobut can't get it through apt:11:08
thyboGet:5 http://download.skype.com stable/non-free Packages [693B] 11:08
thybo99% [5 Packages gzip 0]  [Waiting for headers]  [Connecting to blognux.free.fr (21gzip: stdin: not in gzip format11:08
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notworkincould someone pm me and walk me through this/11:08
jacquesDr_Willis: ok would you like me  to send it to you or just post it11:08
ne78Is there an application that syncrhonize contact with a bluetooth GSM, like ical on macosx ?11:08
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chris449sethk: but i dont' know which file to run from the terminal, i checked all the folders it installed and none had any files i could run11:09
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Dr_Willisjacques,  just pastebin is best11:09
chris449sethk: doh, shoulda checked teh /usr/bin11:09
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chris449thanks for help11:09
jacquesDr_Willis: ok thanx11:09
sethkchris449, yes, that's a reasonable place to check  :)11:09
e-typene78: the bluetooth part should be no problem, but you'd need some synchronizing app for your gsm11:10
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ne78e-type: bluetooth works, but i need to backup all my GSM contacts11:10
Jack_Sparrownotworkin: So you want us to walk you through a Windows 2000 install ?11:11
ne78e-type: i can send contact one by one but that's not an option, is there an application to do that ?11:11
notworkinno no11:11
notworkini want someone to walk me through a hard disk format11:11
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e-typene78: I don't have a clue... google might know11:11
notworkincause its just not working11:11
notworkini dont know how to use linux very well11:11
e-typenotworkin: you sure you want to format it?11:12
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Jack_Sparrownotworkin: and the purpose of the format is what?11:12
notworkinyes11:12
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notworkinim 100 percent sure11:12
Jack_Sparrownotworkin: to instal what OS?11:12
notworkini only have a 6g hard drive11:12
ZajjkoHow do I go about removing a driver installed from source-files?11:12
e-typenotworkin: I'm not sure I wont get banned for telling you this :)11:12
notworkini am going to install windows 2k11:12
ichiban3tell me11:12
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GomezDene-type: I got the splash screen changed but that horrable brown color is still there.11:12
e-typenotworkin: win2k has it's own format app11:12
notworkinbanned `question mark` my shit key  wont work for some reason11:13
djm62ne78: mobical.net might do the backup you want: I haven't found anything for motorola phones, other types might be better served11:13
mowglihello, all. second-day Linux(ubuntu) user here. i've been trying to connect to my usb adsl modem since yesterday. first, i tried to install needed driver by myself from different sources (original Eagle-usb material, original Linux driver from Sagem, etc.). Now that I know how to download and install .deb files from packages.ubuntu.com, module-assistant is telling me that I need to "make...11:13
notworkini mean i know what banned is11:13
mowgli...uninstall" a previous eagle-usb driver before proceeding. HOW DO I DO THAT? thx!11:13
e-typeGomezDen: hm... would that be the same background as in gdm?11:13
Jack_Sparrownotworkin: Put in a windows 2000 disk and let it run, it will format the drive partition it and install 2k for you11:13
notworkinbut why would you get banned11:13
notworkinit wont work11:13
sethknotworkin, I don't think he was serious11:13
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notworkinit wont boot from the cd11:13
notworkinah11:13
notworkini went to the bios but it wont boot the cd11:13
Jack_Sparrownotworkin: Suggest you ask that in #Windows11:13
djm62mowgli: find the source directory for the previous driver, and type make uninstall11:13
notworkinit goes straight to loading the kernel and shturr11:13
GomezDene-type: What do you mean?11:13
notworkinshtuff11:14
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sethknotworkin, during the install, you don't do anything called "format"11:14
e-typeGomezDen: I'm not sure... better not say anything then ;)11:14
sethknotworkin, format is incorrect11:14
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sethknotworkin, you create a file system.11:14
notworkinok... but i dont want linux on there. at all. i want to only have windows 2k11:14
sethknotworkin, there is such a think as a low level format on an IDE drive, but you should never need to do it.11:14
djm62mowgli: is that clear enough for you to be getting on?11:14
sethknotworkin, in that case, just boot a windows install cd11:14
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mowglidjm62: but i don't really know how to find the previous driver... hint?11:15
e-typenotworkin: like making jokes about 'rm and some flags' will result in bans in some channels :)11:15
sethknotworkin, windows is good at erasing everything other than itself  :)11:15
notworkinbut how do i boot it11:15
notworkinit just wont do it11:15
GomezDene-type: It changed the middle part but the area around it is brown.11:15
notworkinah11:15
frying_fish_mowgli: where did you build the previous driver11:15
sethknotworkin, won't boot the cd?11:15
notworkinwell then i need to know how to boot it11:15
djm62mowgli: how did you install the previous driver?11:15
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frying_fish_as you will need to change to that dir, then type sudo make uninstall11:15
e-typenotworkin: if you really want to you need mkfs stuff, it's manpage should help11:15
sethknotworkin, try going into your bios setup, and looking for boot options11:15
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sethknotworkin, and make the CD the first boot device11:15
notworkini already did the bios11:15
thybohow do you clear apt cache?11:15
notworkinits set to boot rom the cd11:15
notworkinbut it wotn11:15
sethknotworkin, didn't boot?11:15
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blubredele11:15
ompaulthybo, you don't want to11:15
thybowhy?11:15
frying_fishthybo: sudo apt-cache clean11:15
sethknotworkin, either the cd is bad, or the drive has a problem, or the drive cable has a problem, or the drive is jumpered incorrectly11:16
frying_fishI think.11:16
beni need help with getting the wpa_supplicant running so wpa_gui can connect to it and configure it11:16
frying_fishnotworkin: can you manually select boot device from options11:16
thybowhy ompaul?11:16
ompaulthybo, it is useful if you want to rebuilt the patched machine later - rather than downloading the files again11:16
jribGomezDen: system > administration > login window, you can change the color there11:16
frying_fishI know on my system its F8 to bring that up, but some its F1211:16
notworkinno i dont think so11:16
mowglidjm62: just followed instructions, but now I've done about a dozen different procedures to try it, and i cannot be sure of which one actually installed it...11:16
blubcan someone tell me how I can get divx and win32codecs into ubuntu? Do I have to add another repository? If So wich shold I use11:16
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thyboi'd rather have the files off:)11:16
Jack_Sparrownotworkin: Helping you install Windows 2000 as your only OS is offtopic here11:16
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mowglidjm62: can i do a file search of some kind?11:16
GomezDenjrib: thanks you11:17
fyrestrtr!codecs > blub11:17
notworkinok then11:17
notworkinthakns anyway11:17
notworkinbye11:17
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benanyone know how to get wpa_supplicant running?11:17
thyboE: Invalid operation clean11:17
jribGomezDen: there is also gnome-splashscreen-manager in the repositories for your previous question.  It's easier than editing gconf11:17
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fyrestrtrben: have you read the wifi wiki already?11:17
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benyes11:18
benthe problem is11:18
beni don't have a config file named /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf11:18
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e-typemowgli: install beagle or try '$ man find'11:18
bennor do i have a /etc/default/wpa_supplicant11:18
fyrestrtrben: I think you are meant to create that manually.11:18
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nolX40hi - has anyone got cvs NetworkManager & LEAP working? I've followed the forums on it, but (afaict) it doesn't give me an option for LEAP.11:19
e-typefyrestrtr: doesn't wpa_supplicant allow it's config to be created at runtime by "some other app"?11:19
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fyrestrtre-type: I think initially, you have to set it up. I forgot exactly, been a while.11:19
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bene-type: what's this other app?11:20
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trish_anyone got a wg111 adapter11:20
thybofunny.... i uninstalled skype while it was running... will it cause any problem?11:20
fyrestrtrthybo: only when you try to run it again :)11:20
thybo:d thx fure11:20
fyrestrtrthybo: running programs are stored in ram.11:20
thybofyre11:20
thybook :)11:20
ompaulthybo, do this>> wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-deb && dpkg -i skype-beta-1.3.0.37-i1_i386.deb << then just start it from the menu: Applicaitons --> Internet11:21
thybou have an unwritable nickname but you are a trumendous sourve of informaations11:21
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fyrestrtrthybo: type fyre and hit tab :)11:21
thybofyrestrtr: :d11:21
thybohehe yeah11:21
e-typefyrestrtr: we've been experimenting a bit to get a dialog config tool with udev+bash to control it on runtime...11:21
thybothanks ompaul but i'm downloading it :)11:22
e-typefyrestrtr: but I don't know the ubuntu way11:22
fyrestrtre-type: your way sounds quite ubuntu-ish.11:22
fyrestrtre-type: but I think their new runlevel control thing (forgot its name) will make lives easy.11:22
e-typefyrestrtr: hehe, it was really to do some voodoo on mac changing + dynamic interface naming...11:22
trish_when i use network manager to access wpa network it tells me my hardware doesn't support the security feature. anyone know a fix?11:23
caverdudebah, I can't install ubuntu as both server and workstation with gui?11:23
lamegoyes you can11:23
e-typecaverdude: sure you can11:23
caverdudeI see 2 cd's for download11:23
e-typecaverdude: what is a server?11:23
caverdudeone for workstation and one for server11:23
e-typea pc with some services11:23
fyrestrtrcaverdude: here's a secret -- you can get a workstation, with server programs!11:23
caverdudee-type yes I know but I'm looking at the install cd's selections11:23
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trish_use synaptic or apt and download the server services you need11:23
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lamegocaverdude, you can install server or desktop packages on any of the systems11:24
TBNolaneasiest way to install TCL on ubuntu?11:24
fyrestrtrcaverdude: the server cd just has less stuff. You can start from any, and go either way. For example, I have a laptop, that runs two database servers, dns, ssh, apache, and tomcat :)11:24
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blubmmmh, are there more repositories for ubuntu than the ones which are default? And where can I find them?11:24
lamegothose CDs just contain different set of packages to be installed11:24
fyrestrtrblub: what are you looking for?11:24
TBNolan"apt-get install tcltls" worked, but my ./config for my eggdrop still couldn't find TCL11:24
caverdudeok so I need to burn off both install cd's and install them both?11:24
lamegoblub, have you read the official guide, about the extra repos ?11:24
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lamegocaverdude, no, if you have a internet connection you only need the desktop cd11:25
blubfyrestrtr: just as much as software as I am used to find in gentoos portage ( a friend wants to switch from suse to kubuntu)11:25
e-typecaverdude: strictly speaking you only need a base package11:25
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trish_haven't tried it but perhaps you could burn both and use the server cd as an extra repository to install extras not on the desktop cd11:25
blublamego: I enabled the universe rep11:25
fyrestrtrcaverdude: nooo -- just pick one you like. Once you get the base system installed (either one) you can install any packages you want. So if you have already downloaded the server cd, install from there, then just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop -- to get the gui. If you have downloaded the desktop cd, just install the various services you need (see !lamp)11:25
trish_but easier to use network repositories11:25
sethkblub, yes, but you don't get to wait hours for a few minutes worth of software11:25
fyrestrtr!software > blub11:25
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Azathoth_hiii11:25
sethkblub, if he wants to take two days to do two hours work, he needs gentoo  :)11:26
Leonrotthow can i probe the ftp?11:26
blubsethk: cant follow you?11:26
TBNolan!tcl > TBNolan11:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
lamegoLeeJunFan, ftp localhost11:26
Azathoth_anyone can help me with errors making modprobe lirc_gpio11:26
Leonrottlamego, thanks11:26
trish_anyone know wpa11:26
blubsethk: me uses gentoo and I am more than happy, now I am helping him to configure his kubuntu install11:26
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sethkblub, not being exactly serious.  You get better performance from ubuntu than from gentoo, and you get it a with a lot less work11:26
fyrestrtrblub: there is lots of software available in repos, what does he want?11:27
lotusleafsethk: hi :)11:27
sethklotusleaf, hi11:27
diezareguys, what is the name of the linux kernel which supports smp protocol? it's name in the apt-get11:27
blubsethk: I love gentoo, so no way for logical argument :-)11:27
fyrestrtrsethk: lets not start bashing a distro over another in here please. Take that stuff to ubuntu-offtopic.11:27
lamegodieman, apt-cache search kernel smp11:27
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sethkfyrestrtr, I didn't bring it up11:27
jamielooking for a consultant to setup jails for fastcgi scripts (php4-cgi, python, perl, etc)11:27
fyrestrtrdiezare: sudo apt-get install linux-68611:27
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blubfyrestrtr: for example searching for opera nogo, win32codecs nogo, divx nogo11:27
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fyrestrtr!opera > blub11:28
sethkblub, all available11:28
lamegodoes linux-686 installs the smp kernel ?11:28
fyrestrtr!codecs > blub11:28
blubfyrestrtr: do I have to download all of them manull?11:28
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Leonrottlamego, ftp: connect: Connection refused11:28
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e-typelamego: search for the kernel module11:28
diezarefyrestrtr, thnx dude11:28
fyrestrtrblub: no, you (or your friend) needs to go read the wiki entries that ubotu just sent you in a query.11:28
sethkblub, use synaptic.  it's a nice friendly gui app with a search function11:28
Azathoth_anuone can help me withg install of lirc and errors on lirc_gpio?11:28
jamiesorry if this is a repeate: looking for a consultant to setup jails for fastcgi/scgi scripts (php4-cgi, python, perl, etc) message me privately if interested11:28
e-typelamego: if you find it, bingo, if you don't, compile one11:28
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sethkblub, or you can install from the command line with just the package name11:28
lamegoe-type, I know to search for the module, my question was because of the answers to the other person11:28
fyrestrtr!opera11:28
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser11:28
sethkblub, you never need to download anything manually11:28
fyrestrtr!codecs11:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:29
blubsethk: just using adept manager from kde11:29
lamegothere is a -686 kernel and a -686-smp kernel11:29
Leonrotthi i get ftp: connect: Connection refused11:29
sethkblub, why?  synaptic is a lot easier to use.  I use it in kde11:29
lamegoLeonrott, that means you dont have an ftp service11:29
_lupineno ftp server running11:29
blubokay, gonna give him the URLs11:29
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Azathoth_anuone can help me withg install of lirc and errors on lirc_gpio?11:29
blubsethk: because I have no clue of kubuntu and int was preinstalled :-)11:29
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sethkblub, ok.  no problem11:30
Leonrottbut proftpd says accepting conecctions11:30
e-typed I'm pretty convinced that if it's not in the default kernel you wont find it in the apt sourceslamego: if you know how to search for a kernel module, than no doubt you know how to search for a kernel image an11:30
_lupinefirewall?11:30
arawhere can i find the hoary repos ? ( i know it's old yes )11:30
lamegoLeonrott, ps -ef | grep -i proftp11:30
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arauniverse etc..11:30
e-typelamego: weuw, I should get my screen fixed here...11:30
_lupines/dapper/hoary :)11:30
erUSUL!easysource11:30
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:30
_lupinethey should all be on archive.ubuntu.com11:30
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e-typelamego: last sentence is obviously unreadable, sorry ;)11:31
blubsethk: and my frind just switched a few month ago from XP tu SuSE, but suse sucked, and didn't help him with suse11:31
TBNolancould anyone help me install TCL?11:31
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arathanks11:31
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Leonrottnobody   25823     1  0 17:28 ?        00:00:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)11:31
sethkblub, I'm not fond of suse11:31
data__is ubuntu pretty newbie friendly?11:31
sethkblub, but package management in ubuntu is really very easy11:31
erUSULTBNolan: sudo apt-get install tcl ??11:31
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blubso thats why I am asking a lot of dump questions11:31
lamegodata__, yes11:31
eXistenZHow can there be different signatures that match the same public key? and is it possible to tell by comparing both a public key and signature that the signature matches the key?11:31
e-typedata__: most newbie friendly distro11:31
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sethkTBNolan, what problem are you having?11:31
data__e-type: ah! just what my friend needs then!11:31
Leonrottlamego, nobody   25823     1  0 17:28 ?        00:00:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)11:31
data__i hear nothing but good things about this distro11:31
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e-typeeXistenZ: there's not11:32
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Azathoth_data_: me for example.. I am newbie and i use ubuntu11:32
TBNolani'm trying to run an eggdrop bot11:32
TBNolanand upon ./configure11:32
e-typeeXistenZ: read up about asymmetric encryption11:32
eXistenZe-type, ok, I'll wiki11:32
data__e-type: quick question, does ubuntu have any problems with ATI video cards?11:32
e-typeeXistenZ: it'll tell you all ;)11:32
sethkeXistenZ, you can hash anything with a public key.  depending on what you has, the has result is different, but the point is you can prove that it was hashed with the public key11:32
TBNolani get an error, saying it can't find the tcl.h and other tcl files (sorry for splitting up my lines, i have a bad habbit)11:32
e-typedata__: no11:32
e-type!ati > data11:32
data__alright. thanks again :)11:32
blubsethk: looks like it is, but I was wondering why I couldn't find opera and win32codes with the default manager11:32
sethkdata__, there are some general ati linux problems, they do not vary by distro11:32
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e-type!ati > dat__11:33
erUSULTBNolan: sudo apt-get install tcl-dev11:33
jribTBNolan: eggdrop is in the repositories11:33
data__!ati11:33
e-type!ati > data__11:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:33
sethkblub, I'm not sure about opera; I think you have to add a repository to the list of repositories to get opera11:33
e-typelol, trying a lot11:33
lamegoLeonrott, you should get something like: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/62811:33
TBNolanjrib, no kiding?11:33
tuxtuxnotte @all11:33
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jrib!info eggdrop11:33
ubotueggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (dapper), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB11:33
lamegoLeonrott, have you selected the standalone mode ?11:33
e-typenaptime for me11:33
e-typelaterz all11:33
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blubsethk: is there a list with extra repositories? I am googeling around, but no success so far11:33
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jribTBNolan: I kid you not, should be available to you if you have enabled universe11:34
TBNolani just did a sude apt-get install eggdrop and it worked11:34
TBNolanjust don't know what to do afterwards11:34
TBNolanheh11:34
Jack_Sparrowblub: what are youlooking for? Have you enabled multiverse and universe11:34
sethkblub, I thought someone gave you the repository for opera.  I think you can do:11:34
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sethk!opera11:34
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser11:34
blubJack_Sparrow: universe I have but multiverse... moment11:34
lamegoTBNolan, you will need to read a tutorial or manual about eggdrop11:34
sethkblub, follow that url11:34
TBNolani know eggdrop11:34
TBNolanerm, windrop, i guess11:34
TBNolannever done it on linux11:34
TheGateKeeperblub what are you trying to install?11:35
blubokay, thanks11:35
lamegoso read a manual :)11:35
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sethkTBNolan, you probably need a dev package11:35
blubTheGateKeeper: a whole bunch of shit :-) Just looking for repositories to cover as much as possible11:35
TBNolanlamego, i've got a problem first: "unable to fetch some archives"11:35
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sethkTBNolan, that was about your tcl question, which may be obsolete11:35
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TBNolanthankyou sethk11:36
lamegoTBNolan, do you have all of the ubuntu repos configured ?11:36
TheGateKeeperblub: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories11:36
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TBNolani thought i did11:36
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sethkTBNolan, try it again, I see that occasionally when a repository is heavily loaded and slow11:36
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Jack_Sparrowblub: Going outside normal repos is a good way to break your system11:36
AbstCan anyone recommend an IRC client?11:36
AbstJust a generic one11:36
Leonrottlamego, yes11:36
jribAbst: do you want gui or command line?11:36
AbstGUI11:36
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lotusleafAbst: a lot of people like xchat11:36
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AsadRis it possible to make the applications that require Administrative access save the root password for a certain duration, so that I don't have to enter it again and again?11:36
TheGateKeeper!seveas > blub11:37
jribAbst: yeah go with xchat, _not_ xchat-gnome11:37
Abst!irc11:37
ubotuirc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines11:37
AbstOkay11:37
lamegoAsadR, sudo already does that11:37
jazzrockeraba_, XChat11:37
jazzrockerAbst, XChat11:37
nibbysomeone know how to install XGL ?? i does the synaptic install of XGL but i cant figure how to start it!11:37
AbstOkay XChat seems to be the one11:37
AbstThanks11:37
blubJack_Sparrow: me know.. but no trouble no fun ;-)11:37
Jack_SparrowAsadR: I think it does for 10 minutes11:37
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data__sethk: so, is it hard to get ati cards to work with linux, or even worth the hassle?11:37
lamego!xgl > nibby11:37
jrib!xgl11:37
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:37
nibbyjrib: thanks again11:37
AsadRso if i look up the sudo docs, and configure it to remember the authentication the administrative apps won't keep asking me for the passwd agian n again?11:37
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jriboops11:37
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seatouch-!mpeg11:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:38
sethkdata__, no, not terribly hard, really.  most are automatically configured when you install, or by the config program is you change your card11:38
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Jack_Sparrowdata__: You can get them to work..11:38
lamegoAsadR, sudo has a default timeout, but yes you can nusdo sudoers to allow certain commands to be used without prompting for the password11:38
sethkdata__, there are a few that are problematic, but mostly they are ok11:38
lamegobut the default timeout is safer11:38
Leonrottlamego, look that unable to redirect logging to '/var/log/syslog.log'11:38
data__cool.. my friend is trying to give ubuntu a shot because everyone says ubuntu is a great distro for a newbie to start working with11:38
seatouch!mpeg11:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:38
sethkAsadR, you can configure which apps require passwords and which don't11:39
lamegoLeonrott, that looks bad11:39
nagyv_I have just installed breezy (I could not install dapper, but I would like to upgrade). when installed I had no net, how can I configure it now?11:39
sethkAsadR, but by doing that you are going even further down the false "sudo is safer" path11:39
lamegoLeonrott, have you installed proftp from the standard ubuntu repos ?11:39
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AsadRsethk: is it possible for me to let it cache the credentials until i logout, or manually purge it?11:39
Leonrottlamego, i think yes11:39
lamegonagyv_, first you should understand why you were not able to run dapper11:39
lamegobecause you may get into the same problem after the upgrade11:40
Leonrottlamego, its kubuntu but none ftp works fine for me11:40
AsadRlike it does in Fedora. (*grin*)11:40
lamegoLeonrott, you used sudo apt-get install protftpd ?11:40
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wweaselWhat do I put in fstab to mount an ext2 partition as r/w? Right now it is "/dev/hda6       /media/data     ext2    defaults        0       2"11:40
sethkAsadR, there is no difference between ubuntu and fedora.  both have su, both have sudo11:40
TBNolaneek, i think us.archive.ubuntu.com is down:-(11:40
Leonrottlamego, yes11:40
lamegoLeonrott, you must have a system configuration problem11:40
nagyv_lamego: because the install CD didn't started (I am trying it on a Thinkpad 600)11:40
sethkAsadR, you can set the root password and use su just like any *nix11:40
lamegonagyv_, have you tried the alternate cd ?11:40
Leonrottlamego, humm11:41
AsadRsethk: Fedora gives a cute icon in my systray that tells me the authentication credentials have been saved11:41
sethkAsadR, I'm not too excited about cute icons, but I'm sure you can do the same thing in ubuntu.  it's the same software11:41
AsadRwhich more or less stays for a long time, but that just might be my imagination. point is, what's the command for purging sudo's credentials, and where can i change the timeout?11:41
lamegoLeonrott, ls -lad /var/log/syslog11:41
sethkAsadR, visudo is how you configure sudo11:41
TBNolanrmdir will remove an empty dir11:42
lamegoAsadR, man sudo11:42
TBNolanwhat will remove a full one?11:42
Leonrott-rw-r----- 1 root adm 40670 2006-08-30 17:41 /var/log/syslog11:42
Leonrottlamego, -rw-r----- 1 root adm 40670 2006-08-30 17:41 /var/log/syslog11:42
lamegook, syslogs seems fine11:42
lamegodo a tail on it to check for some system errors11:42
AsadRkthx11:42
wweaselSurely someone here knows what to put in fstab to get r/w11:42
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lamegowweasel, what partition type ?11:42
sethkwweasel, that's the default, but that's also probably not what you mean11:42
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Leonrottlamego, Fatal: SystemLog: unable to redirect logging to '/var/log/syslog.log': Permission denied on line 32 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'11:43
srihi folks, does anybody know if dapper's kernel is compiled with evms support?11:43
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wweasellamego, sethk: I asked about 30 secs ago and knew someone here would know. I'll repost11:43
wweaselWhat do I put in fstab to mount an ext2 partition as r/w? Right now it is "/dev/hda6       /media/data     ext2    defaults        0       2"11:43
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sethkwweasel, that will mount it rw.   don't confuse mounting read only vs. read-write with different users having read and/or write privileges to the directories and files11:44
lamegoLeonrott, could you check the contents of '/etc/proftpd.conf' line 32 ?11:44
nagyv_lamego: yes I did. the problem was with the new isolinux format or with my cd (finally I was used an original breezy)11:44
lamegoI dont have anything usefull on that line11:44
wweaselsethk: Right! Sorry, need to put uid=11:44
sethkwweasel, mount (with no arguments) shows your currently mounted partitions.   on that list, rw means read/write, ro means read only11:44
lamegonagyv_, ok, so you only need to change your sources.list to point to dapper11:44
sethkwweasel, for ext2, that's unusual11:44
lamegoand perform a dist-upgrade11:44
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lamegonagyv_, please be ware that some persons have experienced problems with the dist-upgrade11:45
Leonrottlamego, SystemLog/var/log/syslog.log11:45
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wweaselsethk: Yeah, it's rw11:45
sethkwweasel, usually you use the uid and gid options for file systems that don't have permissions, or to map external uid numbers to match internal ones, as for an nfs mount11:45
Leonrottlamego, hehe this is the line11:45
nagyv_I know, but I need a network connection to work, how could I get it?11:45
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sethkwweasel, for a locally mounted ext2 file system, use chown and/or chmod to make the file permissions how you want them11:45
eobanb_har @ global notice11:45
lamegowweasel, the defaults for ext2 include rw, your problem must be with the permissions of the contents11:45
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TBNolanwhich software?11:46
eobanb_TBNolan, gentoo 2006.1`11:46
TBNolanheh11:46
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srithe reason I ask is that while I have the user tools, I'm not sure if dapper's kernel includes the evms patches already or if I have to apply it?11:46
wimpiesguys when docs state that usbfs should be mounted on /proc/usb/bus but when I run mount I see probususb mounted on /proc/bus/usb ... does the usbfs/procbususb name difference matter ?11:46
sethkwimpies, no11:46
Dimensionshi ... i have previously updated kernel and i have two kernels options in ubuntu grub along with MS OS ... i wanted to remove the old kernel which i have simply deleted from /boot/grub/menu.lst ......... is that ok ? second part of my question is i have MS OS options at bottom i want to move it to first and second option should be of ubuntu ... how can i do it ?11:46
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sethkwimpies, /proc/bus/usb makes a lot more sense, although they should be using /sys, not /proc, so it will change again11:47
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Leonrottlamego, can i delete this line??11:47
sethkDimensions, just move the windows lines up using an editor11:47
TBNolan/ping us.archive.ubuntu.com :-(11:47
wimpiesit is that my zen is not detected although lsusb shows the device and I added a line to the rules.d file of udev to the propper vendor/product ID11:48
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sethkDimensions, make sure you get all the lines, likely three lines I think for windows11:48
kees_hi I have a problem mounting a ext3 partition11:48
sethkwimpies, kernel module for it probably isn't loaded11:48
sethkkees_, what problem?11:48
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kees_I want it to be mounted at boot, in a way every user can store files on it11:48
kees_sethk: so I need write rights for every user11:48
wimpiessethk : doesn't that occur automatically ? and which module should that be ?11:49
wimpies... for a ZEN ?11:49
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sethkkees_, that's not a mount problem, that's a file and directory permissions issue11:49
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sethkkees_, use chown and chmod to set the ownership and permissions the way you need them11:49
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AbstIS synaptic/apt-get down for anyone else?11:50
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motshi11:50
sriciao folks11:50
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TBNolanAbst: yes, me11:50
motsdo you know how to autologin in shell?11:50
TBNolani think its us.archive.ubuntu.com11:50
TBNolanthat just hangs and hangs for me11:50
AbstYeah11:50
kees_sethk: well I have a directory /home/kees/data which has normal permissions and is owned by the user kees and group kees11:50
AbstI guess i'll just have to wait11:50
sethkwimpies, doesn't necessarily occur automatically, no.  depends on the configuration.11:50
TBNolanme three11:50
lamegomots, you want to add some commands on system startup ?11:50
AbstI'll go play nethack11:50
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sethkkees_, ok, then user kees can write to that directory.11:50
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kees_sethk: but as soon as I mount with the command "mount ~/data", the owner chages to root root, although I mount it without sudo11:51
motslamego: well, I want to autologin with my username/pw and run freevo11:51
wimpiessethk : i use dapper ... what should I do/add/change to load what is needed ?11:51
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sethkkees_, that makes no sense11:51
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sethkkees_, the mounting user must have permission to mount, but that has nothing to do with the permissions of the mounted partition and the files in it.11:51
kees_sethk: I have rw,user,auto as fstab options, should be alright?11:51
lamegomots, why do you want to autologin, dont you want that to run always during the system boot ?11:52
sethkkees_, yes, that should cause it to mount when you boot the system11:52
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motslamego: what do you mean?11:52
sethkkees_, if it is an ext3 file system, the ownership will not change by mounting it11:52
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harmanhow do you stop ubuntu from booting directly into the graphical login?11:52
motsI only want to start my computer and have a working freevo running, without having to type in anything11:53
sethkkees_, you did say that's its ext3, right?11:53
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idefixwhy can't you record a macro in the GIMP? can you record macro's in linux itself?11:53
kees_sethk: yes it is ext311:53
ompaulharman, sudo apt-get install rcconf && sudo rcconf << when done turn off gdm and quit the program11:53
kees_sethk: the fstab line is like this: "/dev/sda5       /home/kees/data      ext3    rw,user,auto 0     0"11:53
MetaMorfoziSwhat i need to isntall for the "svn" cmd get working?11:54
sethkkees_, that's fine, but if you see it as owned by root and group root, use chown to change the ownership.  You'll have to use sudo chown -R kees:kees /home/kees/data11:54
kees_sethk: but when I type "mount ~/data" when logged in as Kees in a terminal, the ownership of ~/data changes to root root11:54
motslamego?11:54
motsstill here?11:54
sethkkees_, no, that can't happen11:54
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kees_sethk: well it does :p11:54
sethkkees_, it doesn't change to root, root, it probably always was root root11:54
sethkkees_, no, it doesn't _change_,11:54
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sethkkees_, why do you think it was ever other than root, root?11:54
kees_sethk: when I "ls -l" I see ~/data as kees:kees11:54
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sethkkees_, oh, you are covering one directory with the mount11:55
kees_sethk: but after a mount performed as a user it's root:root11:55
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sethkkees_, you have files in /home/kees/data, and when you mount over it, you cover those files with the files on the partition11:55
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FilleHi guys11:55
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sethkkees_, you should mount only to an empty directory11:55
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kees_sethk: when not mounted ~/data is totally empty11:55
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FilleI'm having problems installing Firefox on my Kubuntu11:55
eXistenZWhich is better RSA or DSA?11:55
harmanthanks11:55
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sethkkees_, ok, then you haven't told me when the files were every other than root, root11:55
FilleThought maybe one of you guys could help me11:56
bruenigFille, what is the problem?11:56
jribFille: how are you trying to install it?11:56
FilleI've unpacked the content to here: /home/philip/Firefox/11:56
bruenigFille, a simple sudo apt-get install firefox should do it11:56
gimmulf_Is there any good tool to repair .mp4 movies that suddenly freezez?11:56
sethkkees_, rather than try to figure out why something that can't happen does happen, it's better to try and figure out what your misconception is.11:56
kees_sethk: what do you mean by that? I don' t understand what you mean?11:56
bruenigFille is there any reason you aren't using the firefox in the repos?11:56
sethkkees_, you mount it, and it is root, root.  in that case, it always was root, root11:56
sethkkees_, unless, of course, you changed it with chown11:57
sethkkees_, so I'm trying to find out when you saw it as other than root, root11:57
kees_sethk: and when I unount, it must be root:root too right?11:57
sethkkees_, and you tell me before you mount it11:57
kees_sethk: it is the directory ~/data11:57
sethkkees_, oh, you are talking about the permissions on the mount point11:57
sethkkees_, they don't matter, generally11:57
sethkkees_, do the mount, then if you want the directories and files to be kees:kees, do:   chown -R kees:kees ~/data11:58
kees_sethk: could you PM me I don' t want to bother all the other users, so I can explain again, when I PM you you don't see it I think11:58
FilleE: Unable to lock the administrative directory11:58
looksausI have a quite exotic situation here:11:58
sethkkees_, if I don't see it, you must not have registered your nick with freenode11:58
FilleI get that error when typing that command11:58
looksausan x86 without disks (no HD, no CD)11:58
kees_sethk: yes well that will work, but will it have ownership kees kees after it is mounten by a reboot of the system11:58
sethkkees_, it won't let you pm unless your nick is registered.  I am not blocking it.11:58
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looksausand a USB disk11:59
lamegoFilbert, close the other application management programs11:59
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sethkkees_, yes, that chown will be permanent11:59
looksausI also have a ppc laptop11:59
eXistenZWhich is better RSA or DSA?11:59
bruenigFille, you don't have adept or update manager or anything like that open do you?11:59
eetfunkis there an autoexec.bat-like file in ubuntu?  i want the os to run a command at bootup11:59
kees_sethk: aha let me try that then, thanks11:59
lamegoexistance, I believe its DSA, safer11:59
sethkkees_, ok, sorry if I'm confusing you.  :)11:59
looksausany idea how I can create a bootable usb disk for this x86 machine ?11:59
kees_no not at all11:59
bjuniorwhere is bash_profile in ubuntu?11:59
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existancelamego, eh?11:59
sethkkees_, register your nick, it's easy and then you'll be able to pm people if you need to11:59
gimmulf_is there any good gui software for converting mp4 files?11:59
kees_sethk: but if I want the partition also to be mounten in another home dir what do I do then?11:59
sethkbjunior, /etc, for the system wide one.  your own is ~/.bash_profile11:59
existancelamego, perhaps you meant eXistenZ12:00
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lamegoops, yes12:00
FilleI've got adept12:00
sethkkees_, you can mount it anywhere.  the ownership will still be kees:kees, though, regardless of where you mount it12:00
Fillebut it says it's installed12:00
Fillebut I don't see the program12:00
bjuniorsethk , ok man12:00
Fille:((((12:00
eXistenZexistance, why are you using my nick ;[12:00
lamegoFille, try running it from the command line12:00
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bruenigFille, type do "firefox" in konsole12:00

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