[12:00] <user__> arg. hi.  can someone tell me the quickest way to change the screensaver settings in default dapper?
[12:00] <pianoboy3333> I compiled amarok 1.4.2 and I guess it didn't get put into my bin
[12:01] <nosse> ok, this is bropably dum, but I'm using irssi and is there any way to see the whole topic? it's longer than my screen is wide
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> uhhh...........
[12:01] <StoneNote> user__, a shotgun
[12:01] <kaot> pianoboy3333: coulda gone into /opt or /usr/local/ by default
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> lamego: where can I find the binary that I can link to?
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> maybe
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> lemme look
[12:01] <ravenous> nosse: well you can /topic but as far as showing it the whole time i dunno
[12:01] <nosse> thanks
[12:01] <nosse> first time ever to see so long topic
[12:01] <lamego> pianoboy3333, : sudo apt-get install amarok
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> NO
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> lamego: I need mtp support
[12:02] <user__> StoneNote: ... is that in the accessories menu... :-p
[12:02] <anthony> __david, you there still?
[12:02] <StoneNote> lol
[12:02] <qatsi> ATI isnt supported for Xgl right >
[12:02] <thoffland> user_: System/screensaver
[12:02] <kaot> qatsi: depends.  I've got a Mobility 9000 / R250, it works on mine
[12:02] <ravenous> qatsi: of course it is
[12:02] <lamego> qatsi, it's not ? I have used XGL with my Radeon 9600
[12:02] <pianoboy3333> qatsi: I have my radeon working with xgl....
[12:02] <thoffland> user_: if your using Gnome desktop... if your using KDE I cant help
[12:03] <qatsi> darn !! so, why cant i use xgl with my Radeon 9550 ?? anyone has a good tutorial ?
[12:03] <qatsi> or howto, or anything ?
[12:03] <ravenous> !xgl
[12:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:03] <jake1> I have a Lucent Technologies card that supposebly says Orinocco on it......... is there a particular way to tell which driver it is using on Ubuntu
[12:03] <StoneNote> user_ KDE is Settings | Appearance & Themes | Screensaves
[12:03] <ravenous> tada
[12:03] <pirx67> jrib: The change in the sources list fixed the problem with the missing dependency of libid3tag0. Thank you and bye.
[12:03] <jake1> at this point
[12:03] <qatsi> lamego: you have the same card as me, does it work smoothly ?
[12:03] <kaot> qatsi: the one I used:  http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[12:03] <lamego> qatsi, make sure you have the 3d driver installed to start with :)
[12:03] <lamego> qatsi, yes it does
[12:04] <thoffland> can anyone tell me if it's necessary to install the service packs for windows when using them in VMWare?
[12:04] <qatsi> lamego: i have direct rendering working at 1700 fps...thats the only thing i know...
[12:04] <kaot> video playback is a bit rough, I've heard that's the case across all ATIs for some reason.
[12:04] <kaot> (in Xgl)
[12:04] <user__> thoffland: gnome (default Ubuntu), but ... i don't see screensaver under system/preferences or system/administration (or system/)
[12:04] <castillo> help!!! i'm new at ubuntu and i don't know how to install programs
[12:04] <markrian> thoffland: depends what you mean
[12:04] <StoneNote> thoffland, you mean when running windows as a virtual appliance?
[12:04] <erUSUL> thoffland: no more nor less that is neccessary in any other machine i guess
[12:04] <kaot> castillo: System-> administration -> synaptic
[12:05] <lamego> castillo, help.ubuntu.com the guide is nice
[12:05] <sethk> user__, look for screen configuration
[12:05] <thoffland> ok, thanks
[12:05] <gre1> i have an aol account but it wont work in gaim all though all my aim acoounts work how do if that?
[12:05] <gre1> srry typos
[12:06] <lamego> does gaim supports the aim protocol ?
[12:06] <thoffland> i'm just using XP Pro as a virtual machine on my Dapper system... to run Flash and Dreamweaver... they dont require it on install, but I was just wondering if there was a reason I should try to install it
[12:06] <gre1> yes
[12:06] <livingdaylight> anyone have experience of using Enlightenment?
[12:06] <gre1> i have 2 aim accounts on it
[12:06] <gre1> 1 aol one
[12:06] <castillo> thanks, but the problem is that i want to install yahoo messenger and it doesn't appear in the list
[12:06] <gre1> but the other aol won wont work
[12:06] <erUSUL> lamego: well it began being Gnome AIM --> gaim ;)
[12:06] <castillo> and i already downloaded it
[12:06] <gre1> its reall old aol account
[12:06] <kaot> livingdaylight: I've used it, only e16 though and not for a long time.
[12:06] <lamego> erUSUL, ok :P
[12:06] <user__> sethk: system/preferences/'screen resolution' is the closest thing i see
[12:07] <Blacklight> hey guys, i need some help.
[12:07] <Blacklight> i just downloaded both Wine files using synaptic pakage manager, how do i install them or access them?
[12:07] <livingdaylight> kaot: did you compile it or use synaptic to install
[12:07] <gre1> whats wrong w/ it?
[12:07] <kaot> user__: you don't see screensaver right beneath that?
[12:07] <thoffland> user_: you should see screensaver in there
[12:07] <sethk> user__, I use kde, so I'm not sure how to find it in gnome.  In kde you can right click on an empty part of the desktop
[12:07] <lamego> Blacklight, you run it from the terminal: wine program.exe
[12:07] <user__> kaot: no, i see 'sessions'
[12:07] <kaot> livingdaylight: lately I used synaptic, but I only used it for about 10 minutes under ubuntu
[12:07] <dark0wl> can someone read me the command for configuring keyboard ?
[12:07] <Blacklight> terminal ay?
[12:08] <dark0wl> ?
[12:08] <livingdaylight> kaot: so, i can instill in ubuntu using synaptic, what happens then?
[12:08] <user__> sethk: yah.  i just want gnome's "sensible" defaults to be more telepathic for me..
[12:08] <livingdaylight> kaot: do i reboot?
[12:08] <sethk> user__, telepathic?  :)
[12:08] <livingdaylight> kaot: and do i keep the choice of using gnome window manager or englighenment
[12:09] <kaot> livingdaylight: you should simply be able to log out, and then click "sessions" on your gdm login screen and switch to enlightenment.  Yes, you still have the choice of which to use.
[12:09] <user__> sethk: they should read my mind to find out what's sensible for me!  (kde is more convenient when i need to find something)
[12:09] <livingdaylight> kaot: thanks. Just needed reassuring.
[12:09] <silentj> livingdaylight : do you use englighenment? is it good? Is it anything like Fluxbox ? I like fluxbox becaused of all the cool colors and stuff but it is like to damn hard to configure/// Heard Englightenment was good tho???
[12:09] <livingdaylight> kaot: it doesn't adversely affect ubuntu install in any way
[12:10] <nosse> vould it be nice if those links in the topic would be on one website?
[12:10] <dark0wl> can someone read me the command for configuring keyboard ?
[12:10] <kaot> livingdaylight: no it doesn't.  if you don't like it you can take it right out via synaptic
[12:10] <jake1> is there a way to do this
[12:10] <Blacklight> er... when you say terminal what do you mean?
[12:10] <kaot> silentj: enlightenment is far more flexible and configurable than fluxbox, but a little wonky in my experience.  Not a bad wm, all in all.
[12:10] <jake1> you mean what is the terminal?
[12:10] <Blacklight> yeh
[12:11] <jake1> are you familiar with the term console?
[12:11] <livingdaylight> silentj: no, haven't used it yet. Read a cool article about enlightenment and fluxbox in Linux Journal which has inspired me to try it. I chose Enlightenment over fluxbox because of the promise of animated background
[12:11] <silentj> koat, you think its better than gnome?
[12:11] <Blacklight> if its a linux term... no
[12:11] <castillo> how can i install yahoo messenger, please if someone knows...
[12:11] <jake1> BlackLight: are you a linux user?
[12:11] <Blacklight> only new
[12:11] <StoneNote> Blacklight, like a windows c prompt box in a window.
[12:11] <silentj> I like Gnome but the thing that sucks is you really cant customize it alot
[12:11] <castillo> i need help
[12:11] <jake1> ah
[12:11] <StoneNote> but more
[12:11] <jake1> well you should DEFINATELY familiarize your self with the terminal
[12:11] <ravenous> livingdaylight: pretty sure animated backgrounds are only in e17
[12:11] <Blacklight> lol
[12:12] <jake1> you will be spending lots of time there
[12:12] <DaveK> Im finding that quite often apps cant be run properly without using sudo. such as gimp cant open images or xsane cant open the scanner drivers is there a fix for this or a solution
[12:12] <jake1> it's how you control the system
[12:12] <kaot> silentj: enlightenment?  well, as far as I know they stopped major development on E16, and have moved onto E17, which isn't done yet.  E16 is therefore lacking a bit of the polish Gnome has, and also its default setup isn't as accessible as Gnome's
[12:12] <jake1> it's like MSDOS in the sense that it is all text based
[12:12] <silentj> koat I see
[12:12] <clementin> ss
[12:12] <Blacklight> mmk
[12:12] <livingdaylight> ravenous: Yes, e17. Does ubuntu not have that version?
[12:12] <kaot> silentj: but depending on what you're looking for, it could be better than Gnome
[12:13] <kaot> silentj: it is, as I've said, ridiculously configurable
[12:13] <ravenous> livingdaylight: nope, it has 16 .. 17 is still beta and has to be compiled from CVS
[12:13] <eternalswd> I have sun java installed, how do I compile .java files with it?
[12:13] <livingdaylight> ravenous: that's what made me want to try it!
[12:13] <Blacklight> well ive got the terminal open
[12:13] <thoffland> silentJ: I use fluxbox on my other machine, only tried Enlightenment briefly, but I like fluxbox much better. At least for my 128mb 800mhz laptop
[12:13] <livingdaylight> ravenous: arrgh...
[12:13] <StoneNote> Blacklight, cool. I'll have a big mac, large fries...
[12:13] <kaot> thoffland: I ran enlightenment on a 600mhz athlon, 128MB ram, ran pretty well for all that.
[12:13] <Blacklight> would you like to upsize that for a dollar?
[12:13] <kaot> that was forever ago, though.
[12:14] <StoneNote> Blacklight, supersize me
[12:14] <kaot> I was used to a certain degree of sluggishness.  :\
[12:14] <silentj> what do you suggest as far as an alternate UI? Gnome is cool but I wanna change my window colors for example ya know alot more transperancys ect. I have a super fast machine so its not for speed, just eyecandy
[12:14] <sharperguy> Who's on secondlife?
[12:14] <Blacklight> im sorry, we dont have supersize in australia
[12:14] <kaot> silentj: look into Compiz
[12:14] <sharperguy> oops, wrong channel
[12:14] <sharperguy> !offtopic
[12:14] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:14] <silentj> koat : ahh yes, In my dreams
[12:14] <StoneNote> Blacklight, nevermind that. why is there vegamite on my mac?
[12:14] <Blacklight> *sigh*
[12:14] <bEDO> can anyone help me .. and give a room for begginners
[12:14] <silentj> koat, 3 times I tried to install XGL 3 times i had to reinstall Ubin2
[12:15] <kaot> silentj: otherwise, yeah, I'd say give enlightenment a shot.  You'll have to do some research to learn everything you can configure with it
[12:15] <Blacklight> oh yeh, did i forget to tell you we eat kangaroo meat daily? *cough* fool*cough*
[12:15] <Blacklight> :P
[12:15] <DaveK> Blacklight -- offtopic
[12:15] <Blacklight> all i want to know is how to run wine
[12:15] <jake1> can anyone tell me what driver my wireless card is using
[12:15] <kaot> silentj: I had a few nice screenshots from years ago, where my desktop was 4 differently-tinted transparent terms (Red, purple, blue, green), transparent xchat windows, etc
[12:15] <DaveK> sudo wine
[12:15] <jake1> there needs to be a command
[12:15] <jake1> i jst dnt know what it is
[12:15] <Alt127> hello
[12:15] <kaot> silentj: I can't find them though, unfortunately
[12:15] <DaveK> or just type wine
[12:15] <StoneNote> Blacklight, apt-get install wine ... do you have the repsoitories in your sources.list in /etc/apt/ ?
[12:16] <bEDO> HELLo0o
[12:16] <DaveK> no offence
[12:16] <bEDO> can anyone help me here
[12:16] <Blacklight> hold on
[12:16] <DaveK> but i have asked a questio 2x
[12:16] <DaveK> Im finding that quite often apps cant be run properly without using sudo. such as gimp cant open images or xsane cant open the scanner drivers is there a fix for this or a solution
[12:16] <thoffland> bEDO: ask your question?
[12:16] <DaveK> and now a third
[12:16] <pianoboy3333> bEDO: ok, what's the problem?
[12:16] <Blacklight> too many people speaking :S
[12:16] <bEDO> i wanna channel or someplace for begginers ..
[12:16] <Blacklight> i got the files off synaptic package manager
[12:16] <thoffland> bEDO: I think this is it\
[12:16] <pianoboy3333> bEDO: please just ask you question
[12:17] <mutk> eternalswd, http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/unix.html  <---
[12:17] <StoneNote> Blacklight, synaptic uses apt's sources.list so that's fine
[12:17] <bEDO> well but i need to ask some primitave questions !!
[12:17] <peteweez> bEDO: Just ask your question here...people are usually happy to help
[12:17] <debnub_> is there a channel for networking?
[12:17] <jake1> ok wtf?
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> bEDO: no problem. just ask
[12:17] <pianoboy3333> bEDO: please, just ask your question
[12:17] <jake1> what command tells me what driver my wireless card is using
[12:17] <bEDO> infact .. i like linux system .. and the idea of open sources ..
[12:17] <vge> jake lspci
[12:18] <bEDO> and i have tried the live CD of ubuntu and liked it so much ..
[12:18] <jake1> thankyou
[12:18] <ladydoor> !ask
[12:18] <jake1> bEDo ask question
[12:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:18] <bEDO> but before getting involved i wanna make sure if i won't regret it
[12:18] <nosse> :D
[12:18] <jake1> bEDo what would make you regret it?
[12:18] <pianoboy3333> bEDO: that's really something only you can decide
[12:18] <bEDO> and how much time do i need to adapt to it ..
[12:18] <kaot> bEDO: lay hands on a second hard drive,then.  That way you could always yank it and go back to windows.
[12:18] <jake1> do you like your first born child
[12:18] <peteweez> bEDO ppl here don't flame (usually)
[12:18] <jake1> ?
[12:19] <wifiworks> how do i cp a dir?
[12:19] <kaot> wifiworks: cp -R
[12:19] <wifiworks> cp /sdjl/ /klsdfjklsdf/
[12:19] <debnub_> is there a irc channel for networking?
[12:19] <wifiworks> man i dum
[12:19] <thoffland> wifiworks: use sudo
[12:19] <_lupine> wifiworks: cp -a is iusually a better idea
[12:19] <vge> bEDO: you might be safer with KDE if your coming from windows
[12:19] <sethk> wifiworks, sometimes cp -a is better.  check man cp
[12:19] <debnub_> Hi everyone. need help configuring my home network. 1 laptop+1box+adsl router. name resolution problem i think
[12:19] <peteweez> debnub_: try /list #net*
[12:19] <peteweez> that might have networking channels
[12:19] <Jack_Sparrow> debnub: That covers a lot of ground.. could you be more specific
[12:19] <bEDO> ok .. the second question
[12:19] <kaot> oh neat.  Never used cp -a.
[12:20] <bEDO> i have laptop centrino 1.6
[12:20] <bEDO> and have an old pached pc .. 45o p3
[12:20] <wifiworks> what if i want to cp to the curent dir do i have to type the destination path again or is there a trick
[12:20] <bEDO> with 490 mb Rams
[12:20] <longwave> wifiworks: just use a . for the current dir
[12:20] <_lupine> "." is a symlink to the current DIR
[12:20] <wifiworks> .
[12:20] <_lupine> ".." is one dir up
[12:20] <wifiworks> cool
[12:20] <bEDO> can i run ubunto on that
[12:20] <bEDO> ?
[12:20] <_lupine> "..." doesn't exist ;)
[12:20] <_lupine> (../.. does, however)
[12:20] <wifiworks> _lupine: ah i  see no i get cd . .  hehe
[12:21] <peteweez> bEDO: try Debian...it has very low system requirements
[12:21] <_lupine> bEDO: shouls be able to
[12:21] <peteweez> ubuntu might work
[12:21] <thoffland> bEDO: yes, I run it on a laptop that has 128mb ram pIII ... but it might be slow
[12:21] <longwave> bEDO: yes, ubuntu will run on that, though the gnome desktop will probably be rather slow. you could try xubuntu which works better on lower-end hardware.
[12:21] <_lupine> IF unsure, xubuntu will run on anything
[12:21] <wifiworks> ok sudo cp -aR   and i cant go wrong
[12:21] <D0wn> I need some help installing libqt3-mt. Everytime I do a "dpkg -i libqt3-mt_3.3.6-4_i385.deb" I get an error
[12:21] <mckinnoj> So I decided to give Amarok a try, but it is amazingly slow.  Any ideas?  I don't think it's my machine, as I have a 3GHz processor and 1 gig of RAM
[12:21] <thoffland> yes, xubuntu is nice too
[12:21] <acidian> how do I open a windows shared folder by ip in console?
[12:21] <_lupine> but my PC is 5123MB RAM, and it runs KDE fine
[12:21] <peteweez> DOwn: does it say it'll break packages or something?
[12:21] <_lupine> erm, 512MB ;)
[12:21] <kaot> wifiworks: -aR is actually redundant, as -a implies -R
[12:21] <acidian> like I want to open a folder thats shared on 10.0.0.6
[12:21] <amonkey> are there any caveats to using xfs in ubuntu? I'm going to have a 500gb partition filled with very large files and read it was better for them.
[12:21] <bEDO> what is the diference between Ubunto and Xubunto !!
[12:22] <_lupine> xUbuntu uses the XFCE desktop; Ubuntu uses Gnome
[12:22] <longwave> dorel__: why are you using dpkg? libqt3-mt is available in the repositories
[12:22] <_lupine> (Kubuntu uses KDE)
[12:22] <bEDO> so i need a different version
[12:22] <_lupine> unlike windows, you have a choice of desktop :)
[12:22] <longwave> sorry, D0wn: why are you using dpkg? libqt3-mt is available in the repositories
[12:22] <bEDO> or it is an option in instrallation ?
[12:22] <kaot> acidian: check Places -> Network Servers if you're in gnome
[12:22] <bEDO> installation*
[12:22] <_lupine> different CDs
[12:22] <_lupine> TBH, you would be fine with Ubuntu
[12:22] <acidian> kaot: I need to do it in terminal
[12:23] <debnub_> peteweez: thanks, i've learned how to search a channell. zero hits :)
[12:23] <peteweez> D0wn: libqt3c102-mt (older ver) is incompatible with libqt3-mt (newer ver), so you need to recompile apps that are compiled against libqt3c102-mt
[12:23] <peteweez> debnub_: oh sorry
[12:23] <bEDO> but all of them have the same way to work .. and same results ?
[12:23] <longwave> debnub_: if your question is related to networking on ubuntu, ask it here
[12:23] <D0wn> I'm trying to install Skype, and it requires libqt3-mt
[12:23] <kaot> acidian: ah.  Got a name for the computer or does it have to be ip?
[12:23] <acidian> name works
[12:23] <Blacklight> when i type wine PROGRAM into the terminal to boot it, it says: "c:\\windows\\system32\\PROGRAM.exe" why is it trying to run off windows?
[12:23] <_lupine> bEDO: it's basically the eye candy that differs
[12:23] <longwave> D0wn: what does "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt" say?
[12:23] <D0wn> Tried
[12:23] <D0wn> No luck
[12:24] <acidian> kaot: isnt ip and name the same?
[12:24] <longwave> D0wn: exactly what is the error message, though
[12:24] <peteweez> D0wn: does it say you have to remove packages to install libqt3-mt?
[12:24] <_lupine> either one will run linux applications equally well
[12:24] <_lupine> D0wn: try using aptitude. It's smarter than apt-get
[12:24] <bEDO> ok .. if i got a new pc .. is there any recommendations for the system
[12:24] <anthony> heya how do I change language in OOo to English (UK) ? I keep changing it, but it keeps flicking back..... any ideas anyone?
[12:24] <kaot> acidian: depends.  anyway you should be able to just say mount -t smbfs //(ipaddress)/(share name) /mountpoint/foo
[12:24] <bEDO> and can i install both windows and ubunto ?
[12:24] <_lupine> nVidia graphics card is my only suggestion
[12:25] <pianoboy3333> bEDO: yes.... it's complicated though
[12:25] <kaot> acidian: where mountpoint is the directory you want the share to hang off of
[12:25] <_lupine> You can dual-boot win and lin no problems
[12:25] <_lupine> it is trivial
[12:25] <_lupine> :)
[12:25] <kaot> acidian: all that is sudo of course
[12:25] <acidian> kaot: ok Ill try that
[12:25] <_lupine> split the hard drive into two, install windows first
[12:25] <erUSUL> bEDO: yes make sure you install windows first
[12:25] <debnub_> longwave: yes now running winxp on a dualboot system (xp+ubuntu). also have a box and a dsl-router. winxp works fine, all internet services running. on ubuntu only partial services. updates ok but no www.
[12:25] <peteweez> D0WN: Why don't you put your error message in a pastebin??
[12:25] <manux> Hi!
[12:25] <D0wn> I am
[12:25] <D0wn> It's loading
[12:25] <peteweez> ok good
[12:26] <manux> ANyone can help me with a surecom ep-9428 wireless pcmcia board
[12:26] <manux> It doesn't work
[12:26] <manux> I've use ndiswrapper but the return message is invalid drivers
[12:26] <peteweez> manux: is your card broken or do you need drivers?
[12:26] <bEDO> thnx ppl for the help ..
[12:27] <thoffland> When I tried running GTKPod I get a segmentation error... anyone have some insight on this?
[12:27] <bEDO> hope soon i'll ask more important questions
[12:27] <manux> peteweez: I need drivers
[12:27] <thoffland> bEDO: good luck!! have fun with it!
[12:27] <kaot> manux: what chipset does the card use?
[12:27] <manux> kaot: rtl8180
[12:27] <kaot> manux: not familiar with that one, sorry
[12:27] <D0wn> http://pastebin.com/779282
[12:27] <mutk> bEDO, In Linux world, 'diving in and exploring' is a good way to learn..
[12:27] <bEDO> Hope So .. i like the idea.. and it seems better in some aspects ..
[12:27] <peteweez> manux: sounds like it might be atheros
[12:27] <peteweez> that needs madwifi
[12:28] <longwave> debnub_: do you use automatic configuration (DHCP) on xp and ubuntu, or have you had to enter manual settings on either OS?
[12:28] <manux> madwifi?
[12:28] <peteweez> manux: driver for atheros chipsets...I think it's in ubuntu
[12:28] <D0wn> peteweez: http://pastebin.com/779282
[12:28] <debnub_> longwave: using static ip on every os.
[12:28] <Morphboy> My Ubuntu crashed while I was upgrading to LT 6.06 LTS so I had to reboot. Now it's fucked! How do I take it back to scratch? I don't care about my files.
[12:28] <peteweez> D0wn:ok hold on
[12:28] <manux> oh, I understand
[12:29] <lamego> Morphboy, just insert the cd and install it
[12:29] <thoffland> Morphboy: can you just reinstall from the live cd?
[12:29] <longwave> debnub_: you are using the same static ip on xp and ubuntu including netmask, default gateway and dns server entries?
[12:29] <Morphboy> I don't have the CD anymore
[12:29] <Morphboy> is there any way to install it again through root?
[12:29] <debnub_> longwave: yes. i've set my router as the dns server
[12:29] <thoffland> Morphboy: if you have a terminal, sudo apt-get -f install
[12:30] <peteweez> D0WN: did you try apt-get update?
[12:30] <longwave> Morphboy: you can try setting your sources.list to use dapper then "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade", it may still finish the upgrade
[12:30] <Morphboy> I have a recovery terminal.. are you sure that will be able to access the intarhnet?
[12:30] <D0wn> Will try
[12:30] <thoffland> longwave's idea is better...
[12:31] <D0wn> It finished
[12:31] <ciscosurfer> are the forums down?
[12:31] <Morphboy> nah I prefer Breezy Badger, or at least a friend told me it's better
[12:31] <D0wn> Now it's working
[12:31] <kaot> ciscosurfer: I dunno, what would the difference be?  :O
[12:31] <kaot> I keed, I keed!
[12:31] <wifiworks> should i give ndiswrapper xp 98 or 2k drivers?
[12:31] <longwave> debnub_: does it resolve anything if you try "nslookup www.google.com" at the terminal on the ubuntu box?
[12:31] <eefmraimundo> help
[12:31] <peteweez> D0WN: Did it solve your problem?
[12:31] <ciscosurfer> kaot: they'd be up
[12:32] <D0wn> Yeah, I think so. Thanks :D
[12:32] <silentj_> Hey all, I have a question, I want to download this cool system monitor thing, it like docks itself to your desktop It tells you your CPU speed, temp, time, gives you email allerts ect. But Ive no idea what its called anyone help me out? I saw it once on DSL linux
[12:32] <peteweez> D0wn: sure...happy I could help!
[12:32] <Morphboy> But how will I be able to access the internet through recovery terminal? I dont even know how to activate eth0
[12:32] <debnub_> longwave. yep
[12:32] <thoffland> silentJ: Gkrellm or Torsmo
[12:32] <sunbug> I tried to install "gnome" with apt, but wwhen i try gdm or startx i get: X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting. Any ideas?
[12:32] <longwave> Morphboy: you should try dapper before you go back to breezy, *you* might like it better even if your friend doesn't ;)
[12:32] <Morphboy> roger
[12:32] <longwave> debnub_: so that works, but browsing from say firefox doesn't?
[12:32] <eefmraimundo> help
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Morphboy: HArd to say you prefer one os over another if you have NOT tried the other one..
[12:32] <thoffland> eefmraimundo: what's up
[12:32] <debnub_> longwave. exactly
[12:33] <jake1> what command will tell me what driver my wireless card is using
[12:33] <longwave> debnub_: did you configure a proxy in firefox?
[12:33] <Morphboy> alright.. Ill try to find a new CD and turn it on fire (burn it)
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: terminal lspci -v
[12:33] <ciscosurfer> is there a Garnome channel?
[12:33] <debnub_> longwave: please dont beat me up. firefox is runnig fine. :)
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: It is a start..
[12:33] <anthony>  heya how do I change language in OOo to English (UK) ? I keep changing it, but it keeps flicking back..... any ideas anyone?
[12:34] <peteweez> ciscosufer: try "/list *Garnome* "
[12:34] <longwave> debnub_: uhm so there is no problem here? it has fixed itself? :)
[12:34] <Morphboy> Why is Ubuntu so hated among some people? I want an honest reply for myself to work from, not just a convincing attitude
[12:34] <Morphboy> *channel turns silent*
[12:34] <longwave> anthony: that works fine for me (i'm in the UK), do you have the openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb package installed?
[12:35] <thoffland> I dont think anyone in here hates it Morphboy... you might be asking the wrong crowd
[12:35] <nickspoon> Morphboy: depends what group of people you mean.
[12:35] <Juhaz> why don't you ask them? you probably won't find any ubuntu haters here
[12:35] <longwave> you aren't going to get people hating ubuntu in here, except the trolls who get banned quick enough
[12:35] <kaot> Morphboy: because given a large enough cross section of people, you'll find a group of people who hate anything you care to name.
[12:35] <anthony> longwave, not sure: how do I instal it?
[12:35] <debnub_> longwave: just one more thing.nslookup output said server:192.168.0.1#53. i think it means my router is acting as a domain server right? is that ok?
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Morphboy: It has money behind it.. It has people using it it has people supporting it,  Not silent
[12:35] <Morphboy> roger all
[12:35] <kaot> Morphboy: for a better answer, ask a sociologist.  :\
[12:35] <Morphboy> xD
[12:35] <Xenguy> Morphboy: you've probably been listening to some bad-tempered Debian fanboys =)
[12:36] <StoneNote> Morphboy, why would you come to an ubuntu channel to find people who hated ubuntu? maybe try searching on "ubuntu+sucks" or "I hate ubuntu"
[12:36] <levander> Can I run ubuntu breezy off the LiveCD with 80MB's of RAM?
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[12:36] <Morphboy> Ill be sticking to Ubuntu anyway.. easy interface for a winnub like me ^_^
[12:36] <levander> Jack_Sparrow: you've tried it?
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> levander: specs call for a minimum of 256
[12:37] <thoffland> OK, thanks for the help peoples! CYA
[12:37] <Morphboy> lataz, thanks for assistance. <3
[12:37] <longwave> anthony: go to system > administration > synaptic package manager and search for "openoffice en-gb"
[12:38] <stirman> anyone know if it's possible to install Ubuntu on an Intel based mac, without losing the data on the hd?
[12:38] <magus_x> what package should i download to be able to compile the kernel?
[12:38] <longwave> !kernel
[12:38] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: start with build-essentials
[12:38] <longwave> debnub_: yes, most dsl routers act as a dns server, that's fine
[12:38] <z\> mangus_x:
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get update
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install kernel-package
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install libncurses5
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[12:39] <magus_x> Jack_Sparrow, : well, all i need is install a module
[12:39] <anthony> longwave, but of course!  yeah it's installed
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x:  ANy particular reason you feel you need to compile your own
[12:39] <z\> magus_x: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/CompilazioneKernel?highlight=%28compilazione%29%7C%28kernel%29
[12:39] <debnub_> longwave: gaim is not working! :)
[12:39] <debnub_> :)
[12:39] <debnub_> :(
[12:39] <magus_x> Jack_Sparrow, : well, all i need is install a module
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: What module do you need
[12:40] <magus_x> cdemu-0.8
[12:40] <longwave> anthony: where are you trying to set the language?
[12:40] <magus_x> i need run cd images
[12:40] <erUSUL> !paste > z\
[12:40] <magus_x> but not iso, because i know how mount them, i need run .ccd
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: .iso's?
[12:40] <z\> erUSUL i'm sorry
[12:40] <longwave> anthony: for me it works if i open Writer then go to tools > options > language settings > languages > default language for documents > western
[12:41] <Pretoriano> z\ lol
[12:41] <magus_x> Jack_Sparrow, : sorry, bad english
[12:41] <[g2] > is there a way to not have the CDROM eject on dapper during the shutdown ?
[12:41] <silentj> I have a question... I want to change my home folder.. For example,.. now my home folder is /home/blue I want to change it to /home/red is there any way to do this? I tried to sudo change the file name but then nothing worked haha
[12:41] <magus_x> i need be able to mount ccd's
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: As long as you know what you want and why you need it.. great..
[12:41] <anthony> longwave, tools -> options -> language settings -> languages -> default languages for docs -> western -> english (GB)
[12:41] <magus_x> lol
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: Too many feel they Must have the latest and have no reason why.
[12:41] <z\> hi pretoriano.
[12:41] <ciscosurfer> Any Garnome experts here??
[12:41] <[g2] > Jack_Sparrow that's a funny nick :)
[12:41] <Pretoriano> hi, what's up?
[12:42] <anthony> longwave, ok -> type "colour" -> red line
[12:42] <dark0wl> hello
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> [g2] : I'm pleased to put a smile on your face..
[12:42] <StoneNote> [g2] , Pirates of the Carribean
[12:42] <magus_x> well, i need mount a specific ccd image, any way how with the actual kernel? or i need download the kernel source?
[12:42] <dark0wl> can anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?
[12:42] <anthony> longwave, tools -> options -> ... -> it's back on English (USA)
[12:42] <ciscosurfer> No Garnome experts???
[12:43] <peteweez> dark0wl: depends on your window manager.
 im using fluxbox
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x:  Just one image or different images of the same extension.?
[12:43] <magus_x> just one
[12:43] <dark0wl> and i dont know how to configure my keyboard
[12:43] <longwave> anthony: hrm actually mine is set to English (UK), i just changed it and saved and reopened and it went back to English (USA), it must take the default from elsewhere... hold on
[12:43] <peteweez> dark0wm: do you want to set keyboard shortcuts, like ctrl+alt+del or something?
[12:43] <Larynx> kebabfish
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: Why not convert that one image to an iso.?
[12:43] <dark0wl> peteweez no
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: avoid the whole compile thing
[12:44] <magus_x> but with which program?
[12:44] <magus_x> Jack_Sparrow, : yeah, i want avoid, but i dont know how i can do
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: Can you not burn a .ccd
[12:44] <peteweez> dark0wl: I don't know then...I configured mine when I configured X.
[12:44] <jake1> jack-sparrow the network settings does not show what driver the wireless card is using
[12:44] <magus_x> k3b dont opens it
[12:44] <jake1> i want to know the name of the driver
[12:44] <ciscosurfer> Last shot...Anybody here use Garnome?
[12:44] <magus_x> ciscosurfer, : Garnome or gnome?
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: did it show up in lspci ?
 do you use gnome ?
[12:45] <ciscosurfer> magus_x: Garnome
[12:45] <longwave> anthony: is your keyboard set to UK in system > preferences > keyboards, and English (UK) selected in system > administration > language support?
[12:45] <jake1> no it just gave me the driver of my PCMCIA slot\
[12:45] <mdkaneda> hey, ive been battling w/ getting Samba configured correctly for days, and no luck. my smb.conf is probably really screwed up by now, What im looking to do is just get a working smb.conf w/ ubuntu, preferably no password necessary for a WinXP machine to logon, can someone take a look at my smb.conf and help me out?
[12:45] <anthony> longwave, should be. one sec
[12:45] <jake1> not the card in it
[12:45] <jake1> i tried iwconfig
[12:45] <silentj> Anyone? I want to change my home folder.. For example,.. now my home folder is /home/blue I want to change it to /home/red is there any way to do this?
[12:45] <abo> any one knows if freenet is packaged for ubuntu, or should I instal it as they say on its site?
[12:45] <jake1> and under eth2 it says HermesI
[12:45] <jake1> but i dnt think that is the driver
[12:45] <Pulshion> does anyone know how to select certain files in nautilus and make those files play using rhytmbox, i used to just highlight and add to playlist in wmp
[12:45] <Warbo> Is http://www.ubuntuforums.org down? It isn't loading for me, but it also isn't displaying a 404 page
[12:46] <unio> silentj: create a new account; i don't think you can rename accounts
[12:46] <StoneNote> magus_x, A new distribution of GNOME, based on the GAR ports system by Nick Moffitt. For testing GNOME 2.0 without breaking current GNOME packages
[12:46] <silentj> unio really? That sucks ass
[12:46] <magus_x> 3cool
 do you use gnome ?
[12:46] <unio> silentj: yes; unless you want to risk messing up your user account (and possible others?)
[12:46] <anthony> longwave, it's downloading some stuff now..........apparently not all language aids (SP?!?) were installed
[12:47] <erUSUL> silentj: System>Admin>Users Choose your user and edit the properties
[12:47] <Warbo> Pulshion: Rhythmbox is collection-based. You could try drag 'n' drop (I don't use Rythmbox much so I am no sure)
[12:47] <rob_p> silentj, man usermod
[12:47] <Pulshion> Warbo -- whats the best music player?
[12:47] <Warbo> !best
[12:47] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: !best
[12:47] <silentj> VLA player @@!
[12:47] <silentj> VLA is gangsta
[12:47] <Warbo> Pulshion: Personally I use Listen, Amarok and XMMS
[12:47] <dark0wl> can anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?
[12:47] <dark0wl> can anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?
[12:47] <silentj> VLA works for everything
[12:47] <eternaljoy> how can I completely delete my system of any websites visited?  besides "Clear Private Data" in Firefox and besides using Root Kit Hunter. any other ways to totally CLEAN computer?
[12:48] <longwave> anthony: hrm i don't know what those downloads are, it may fix your problem, but i have found a mention of similar bug on the forums, i am searching launchpad to see if anyone has reported it there
[12:48] <mutk> The best music player I have is my CD pl;ayer.
[12:48] <Warbo> CDs, eww
[12:48] <mr3vil> hi @ll. is there a tool to reduce the processor-speed!?
[12:48] <dark0wl> can anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?
[12:48] <anthony> longwave, I found a page on that too - the guys there ended up renaming the language file to force OOo to take that as English (USA)!
[12:48] <Pulshion> Warbo -- k thanx, drag and drop worked, i just had my blonde moments haha
[12:49] <abo> silentj, unio, setting the $HOME env variable does change the home directory
[12:49] <dark0wl> can anyone tell me the command or configuring keyboard ?
[12:49] <tuxtux_> notte
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat dark0wl
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat dark0wl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > dark0wl
[12:49] <dark0wl> cant you just open your menu editr an take a look ?
[12:50] <mdkaneda> how about this, is there atleast a way to revert back to the original smb.conf so i can start over, and try not changing anything? hehe, i tried "completely" removing the samba package and reinstalling, but that left my smb.conf alone
[12:50] <longwave> anthony: yeah, that doesn't sound like a great solution, but i can't find any other fix right now :(
[12:50] <anthony> longwave, no it didn't work :(
[12:50] <longwave> anthony: this is reported in launchpad: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/35936
[12:50] <erUSUL> mdkaneda: --purge will do the trick
[12:50] <mdkaneda> erUSUL: thanx, i'll try giving this another hack
[12:51] <longwave> anthony: no fix for it as yet though, and openoffice.org claims it's not their problem, it's ubuntu's
[12:51] <dark0wl> Can someone open the menu editor and tell me the command used for keyboard config ?
[12:51] <dark0wl> is it too hard ?
[12:51] <delta___> Hey guys! I am looking for a gnome panel applet that displays gauges for "free disk", "free mem", "cpu load" and "net load" - preferably looking like a car dashboard's needle that goes from 0% to 100%. Does anyone know of such an application?
[12:51] <anthony> longwave, pfft yeah right: I remember something like this happening under windows too....
[12:51] <silentj> What is the favorite Terminal Flavor in the room? I use GnomeTerm only because it came with Ubin2 but I want to try something new, anyone got any suggestions?
[12:52] <Warbo> NOTE: You can drag menu entries onto the panel to get at their command name. That beats loading Alacarte, which takes AGES
[12:52] <WizCraker> how do I set the default gateway through cli?
[12:52] <delta___> dark0wl: gnome-keyboard-properties
[12:52] <dark0wl> thank you very much !
[12:52] <delta___> dark0wl: np
[12:53] <silentj> I mean is there really any difference in terminals?
[12:53] <delta___> silentj: I am using gnome-terminal (again, after a trip through all alternatives I could find)
[12:53] <StoneNote> silentj, I use gnome-terminal & konsole. I no no preference between the two
[12:53] <StoneNote> I have no^
[12:53] <silentj> delta__ there is no real difference between them?
[12:53] <anthony> longwave, no worries: I'll rename the language pack instead :P thanks for your help dude
[12:53] <delta___> silentj: The main differences lie with a) Desktop integration and b) speed
[12:53] <Warbo> silentj: I like gnome terminal. Many people might say xterm because it is small, but gnome-terminal is apparently (on GNOME site) quicker than xterm
[12:54] <zenit> silentj: I usually use xterm, becase that one is usually installed by default.
[12:54] <longwave> anthony: yeah it's a dirty fix but openoffice is so convoluted there is probably no easy answer, i'm afraid :(
[12:54] <zenit> on different systems that is
[12:54] <anthony> exit
[12:54] <silentj> senit yea
[12:55] <silentj> I tried putty i think it was pretty cool, and ther e was one that if you hit F12 it dropped down from the top of your screen dont remember what it was called tho
[12:55] <silentj> Anyone know when XGL will be useable to human beings?
[12:55] <Warbo> The main difference in terminals is their speed. For example "dmesg" would output pretty much instantly in a console, but can take ages for a graphical terminal to scroll through it as it outputs
[12:55] <nrdb> Hi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd can anyone help?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> silentj: try asking in #ubuntu-xgl they would know more
[12:56] <anthony> another problem (!): my connection is periodically reducing to nothing and then booting back  again.  in windows it just went and then had to reboot the router: there was nothing like this. any ideas?
[12:56] <Warbo> silentj: Erm.. When someone makes a GUI for it? (which would be a stupid idea)
[12:56] <silentj> gnomefreak not that interested haha
[12:56] <Warbo> XGL is an X server
[12:56] <delta___> nrdb: What exactly goes wrong?
[12:56] <silentj> Warbo, when someone makes an install that works
[12:56] <silentj> haha
[12:56] <silentj> GUI would be nice
[12:56] <Warbo> packages would be better
[12:56] <silentj> or something simple like.. apt-get install XGL
[12:57] <silentj> or something
[12:57] <silentj> would be cool
[12:57] <Yurtle> how can i force ntpdate to run ?
[12:57] <silentj> I cant get the damn thing to run for the life of me
[12:57] <nrdb> delta___: nothing works the sound, the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[12:57] <livingdaylight> got flumuxed by enlightenment
[12:57] <silentj> which sucks cuz its cxool as hell
[12:57] <delta___> Yurtle: something like "sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart", I'd suppose
[12:57] <livingdaylight> couldn't find the application menu
[12:57] <silentj> Warbo, same here
[12:57] <gnomefreak> silentj: xgl is in dappers repos and as i said take all xgl topics to #ubuntu-xgl please
[12:57] <silentj> 3 times
[12:57] <liran1> for some reason swap stopped operating... its defined in /etc/fstab but swapon doesnt initialize it
[12:57] <Warbo> silentj: I am in AiGLX right now, but running GNOME+E16
[12:57] <silentj> gnomefreak, calm down dude.
[12:58] <longwave> Yurtle: something like "sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov" or another time server of your choice
[12:58] <Bassy> i have a noobe (linux) question, i have a file name with a space in the name, and i can't delete or move it, what's the command if your file name has a space in it (sorry for the noobe question)
[12:58] <mjr> Bassy, "file name"
[12:58] <Yurtle> strange i dont know why its not autorunning on bott.
[12:58] <Yurtle> uh boot
[12:58] <delta___> Bassy: Use "\ " to escape the space
[12:58] <mjr> or what delta said
[12:58] <gnomefreak> silentj: than go to #ubuntu-xgl or #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about xgl
[12:58] <Bassy> thanx guys...
[12:58] <nrdb> Bassy: quote the name e.g >ls "my name"
[12:58] <Yurtle> 29 Aug 16:58:41 ntpdate[13988] : no server suitable for synchronization found
[12:58] <Yurtle> 3
[12:58] <liran1> when i run 'swapon -a' i get 'swapon: /dev/sda4: Invalid argument'
[12:59] <silentj> You know, its like so touchy in here sometimes. Where is the humanity?! Where is the love?! comeon people if someone asks a question, instead of being helpful you take the time to say RTFM or some other useless thing that is no help to anyone
[12:59] <silentj> and XGL is on topic in my opinion
[12:59] <silentj> so :P
[12:59] <waspius> hi...i found this really cool site http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en which has allot of useful apps etc.i am trying to download some things though but nothing is happening..most of the files exist also in a debian extention..can i find them some other way?
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> silentj: That is ONLY your opinion
[01:00] <gnomefreak> silentj: you are muted for 10 mins
[01:00] <Yurtle> oh well wierd
[01:00] <Yurtle> bbl
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[01:00] <redcard> Fooding :P
[01:01] <Warbo> Yay forums come up now. I don't know what went wrong
[01:01] <longwave> liran1: is /dev/sda4 your swap device? what is in your /etc/fstab?
[01:02] <dr_willis> waspius,  its proberly worth checking the package manager to see if those apps are allready in the repos.  much better idea to install with synaptic.
[01:02] <anthony> my connection is periodically reducing to nothing and then booting back  again.  in windows it just went and then had to reboot the router: there was nothing like this. any ideas?
[01:02] <liran1> longwave: yeah, from fdisk -l its "/dev/sda4            6953        7080     1028160   82  Linux swap / Solaris" and from fstab its "/dev/sda4       none            swap    sw              0       0"
[01:02] <waspius> dr_willis: i use adept and i have not found anything there..
[01:02] <longwave> liran1: did you run mkswap on that partition since it was created?
[01:02] <liran1> longwave: i noticed im getting "Unable to find swap-space signature" in dmesg
[01:03] <don_jr> Hello, I'm looking for a good video player for ubuntu, wmv, wma, divx, can anyone recomend one that works well?
[01:03] <longwave> liran1: if it was working before, sounds like maybe the swap got corrupted somehow? mkswap again may fix it
[01:03] <_lupine> liran1: you want mkswap#
[01:03] <_lupine> then swapon
[01:03] <liran1> swapon itself doesnt work
[01:04] <nrdb> Hi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd,  the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.", can someone help please ?
[01:04] <liran1> ok i was thinking id have to do that
[01:04] <liran1> so mkswap /dev/sda4
[01:04] <_lupine> you'll have to sudo, but yes
[01:04] <jrib> don_jr: mplayer is my favorite, xine and vlc are good too (but vlc won't play nice with wmv9 without some extra work)
[01:04] <longwave> liran1: yes, similar to a filesystem, you have to mkswap a swap partition before you can use it
[01:04] <lamego> don_jr, http://help.ubuntu.com Desktop Guider -> 3 Common Tasks -> Video
[01:05] <liran1> right, lets see how it goes
[01:05] <grimboy> Hey, I'm adding a new second graphics card in xorg.conf (Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2064W [Millennium] ) what should I enter for driver?
[01:05] <don_jr> mplayer, alright, thank you
[01:05] <dr_willis> waspius,  you may need to include the other reposoitories.  see !easysource
[01:05] <_lupine> grimboy: start with vesa
[01:05] <D0wn> When I try to transfer music to my iPod with GTKPod, I keep getting this message Path not found: '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F19'.
[01:05] <D0wn> Anyone got some advice?
[01:05] <nrdb> grimboy: I have something simular it uses the 'mga' driver
[01:05] <jrib> don_jr: just be sure to install w32codecs along with mplayer
[01:05] <jrib> !w32codecs > don_jr
[01:05] <liran1> great, its initializing fine now.
[01:05] <don_jr> jrib will do
[01:06] <waspius> !easysource
[01:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:06] <grimboy> _lupine, Thanks! I'll try that for the time being. nrdb, I'll try that if vesa works, thanks
[01:08] <buccaneer> hello all, I have a quick question about ubuntu... does ubuntu have frequency scaling capabilities ... for say a laptop?
[01:08] <jrib> buccaneer: yes
[01:09] <nrdb> can you frequency scale any cpu or does it need special hardware?
[01:09] <longwave> buccaneer: yep, my laptop is throttled to 800mhz right now because it isn't doing much except chatting
[01:09] <buccaneer> k, I was curious cause I am thinking about installing it on my laptop but the last thing I want is for the laptop to run hot or for their to be a drain on power because it s always running at the same speed
[01:09] <jrib> buccaneer: mine switches between 1.2 and 1.6 as needed
[01:09] <buccaneer> longwave, did you have to manually set it, or does ubuntu do it for you/
[01:10] <longwave> buccaneer: ubuntu does it automatically, there is a monitor you can add to a gnome panel to show you what speed it's currently at
[01:10] <waspius> dr_willis: thanx
[01:10] !lilo:*! Hi all. Note: we've added a couple of new prefixes recently.... nat/* for corporate gateway users (they'll tend to be fairly low on abuse).... and conference/* for conference gateways
[01:10] <longwave> nrdb: i believe you need speedstep or powernow! or similar support in your hardware
[01:11] <buccaneer> ok, I usually just do a cat on /proc/cpuinfo
[01:11] <longwave> buccaneer: that works too :)
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> buccaneer: Reports are that battery life is still better in windows...Implying scaling is better with XP
[01:11] <Gecko> Hey, can anyone tell me how to generate ssl certificates for virtual hosts on apache?
[01:11] <longwave> Gecko: you can't run ssl on vhosts because of the way secure HTTP works
[01:11] <longwave> Gecko: you need one IP address per SSL host, no way around it
[01:11] <MrFeetio> how do i go about makeing a gdm login?
[01:12] <Backeman> Hi! Is there a way to fetch data that were on the harddrive before a reformat? I had the same fs before as I have no (ext3).
[01:12] <buccaneer> Jack_Sparrow,well microsoft has access to proprietory drivers cause they can pay for it .. so it is expected
[01:12] <Gecko> longwave: when I examine the host that I now administer, each of the vertual host have their own .pem file... So is what you say true?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> buccaneer: Agreed..
[01:12] <silentj> wow everyone, look at gnomefreaks super mute powers! Gnomefreak your 1337-ness is overwhelming me. Im gonna have to change me undies soon!
[01:12] <silentj> what a waste of time
[01:13] <longwave> Gecko: well, apache can listen on multiple IPs, so you can do vhosts that way, but you can't do it from just a single IP
[01:13] <buccaneer> I usually run freebsd on my lappy ...freebsd has some power adaptive capabilities but somehow I don't feel it is up to par with that offered through ubuntu
[01:13] <StoneNote> silentj, temper tantrums are not helpful
[01:13] <longwave> bye silentj
[01:13] <computerex> Hey guys. I finnaly got it!
[01:13] <buccaneer> I was sampling the live cd and noticed that m machine was running a lot cooler
[01:13] <computerex> finally*
[01:13] <silentj> yea but come on
[01:13] <StoneNote> computerex, congrats
[01:13] <silentj> what was the reason for that?
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> buccaneer: The difference is relatively minor...  JUst wanted to admit that XP does it a little better, but not worth using XP for that additional few minutes of battery life
[01:13] <computerex> Yep. well, sort of...
[01:13] <silentj> Just trying to show how cool he is or what?
[01:13] <computerex> I got stuck on the prompt for password...
[01:13] <leagris> bonsoir
[01:14] <debnub> How can i check my inetd status? and to save changes to it?
[01:14] <nrdb> Hi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd,  the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.", can someone help please ?
[01:14] <Gecko> longwave: each vhost have their own SSLCertificateFile option...
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> buccaneer: My HP lappy runs much cooler as well
[01:14] <mutk> silentj, You got it exactly right..
[01:14] <computerex> Whats soppose to be my username and password? I know I entered the password, but there was nothing about username...
[01:14] <computerex> I am new to LINUX...
[01:14] <longwave> Gecko: read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/https - the last paragraph in the limitations section
[01:14] <jrib> computerex: what are you trying to do?  What prompt?
[01:14] <debnub> computerex: run console and write whoami
[01:14] <computerex> When your installition is done
[01:15] <longwave> computerex: you were asked for your name during installation, that is your username?
[01:15] <computerex> it asks you for the password right? On a really cool yellow screen
[01:15] <nrdb> computerex: it asks for name and password!
[01:15] <computerex> Username and password
[01:15] <computerex> It does a reboot
[01:15] <Gecko> longwave: yes, I understand that. So I can just copy one of the certificates for this particular ssl host?
[01:15] <computerex> Then asks you for a password and a username
[01:15] <spiderworm> !nvc
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <spiderworm> !vnc
[01:15] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[01:15] <longwave> Gecko: yes, as long as the domain name matches the SSL certificate of course, you should just be able to specify it in the apache config
[01:16] <Gecko> longwave: well, the domain name doesn't match, that's why I wanted to generate a new one
[01:16] <longwave> Gecko: you may need a chain certificate or something as well depending on how the original vhost was configured, if you have the same apache config file though it should work fine
[01:16] <computerex> I installed ubunto today, it worked smoothly, until the whole install was complete
[01:16] <longwave> Gecko: to get a valid one that is accepted by web browsers, you have to pay
[01:16] <computerex> It rebooted the computer, everything went smooth
[01:16] <computerex> But I didn't know the username or password  ( Corrected Spelling ) 
[01:16] <computerex> But I didnt know the username or password
[01:16] <squelly> Sorry to interrupt, first time on IRC... do I just ask a question, or is there a protocol?
[01:16] <Psykus> anyone know how I would keep track of max uptime? I know I can use the 'uptime' command to get the current uptime
[01:16] <Gecko> longwave: I just want one that identifies itself as the host that is accessed
[01:16] <comtech> can anyone tell me how to add clonecd .img file compatibility to k3b? or if it's even possible
[01:16] <longwave> Gecko: or you can generate your own CA and generate a cert from that, but it will give a warning in any web browser where the CA cert is not installed
[01:17] <mjr> squelly, just ask
[01:17] <jrib> computerex: it should have asked for a username and a password if you did a regular install.  If you can't remember the username, you can reboot and go to recovery mode, then type 'getent passwd 1000' to see the info for your first user
[01:17] <Gecko> longwave: if I wanted to do that, how would I do it?
[01:17] <Ricesteam> Anyone know whats the difference between cgwd and gnome-compiz?
[01:17] <jrib> computerex: well that will get you the username at least, I think you said you knew the password right?
[01:17] <Backeman> last Backeman
[01:17] <computerex> Yes
[01:18] <longwave> Gecko: there is a quick method here: http://www.rpatrick.com/tech/makecert/
[01:18] <computerex> Oh well, will have to reinstall anywa
[01:18] <squelly> Just did my first install. THe live CD got out to the internet fine, after install, I only get Server Not Found.
[01:18] <longwave> Gecko: i am sure there is more info about this in the apache documentation
[01:18] <jrib> computerex: reinstall why?  Just use recovery mode from the grub menu
[01:18] <computerex> this is XP. Had to reinstall everything. wow. Talk about playing with OSs
[01:18] <computerex> I didn't know anything about this, so I reinstalled XP  ( Corrected Spelling ) 
[01:18] <computerex> I didnt know anything about this, so I reinstalled XP
[01:18] <cmatheso1> does anyone know how to force java to not use the GNOME look and feel? it doesn't work right w/ my gtk-engine
[01:18] <longwave> Gecko: also try http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#cert-real
[01:18] <Fred21> Hello
[01:19] <computerex> BTW, when first installing ubuntu, do I install in OEM mode or text mode?
[01:19] <Fred21> i've this problem
[01:19] <don_jr> I have no sound, I have an integrated sound board, how can I correct this?
[01:19] <longwave> computerex: are you installing from the alternate cd? you want text mode in that case
[01:19] <Fred21> i've the problem about the update on 21th august
[01:19] <computerex> Yes. Alternative file
[01:19] <MrFeetio> how do i make a login screen?
[01:19] <Fred21> i followed the instruction with sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[01:20] <Backeman> Hi! Is there a way to fetch data that were on the harddrive before a reformat? I had the same fs before as I have no (ext3).
[01:20] <Fred21> but i never can't be able to log me
[01:20] <Abst> Hey
[01:20] <Abst> I just fully switched to Ubuntu! Windows is gone!
[01:20] <jrib> Fred21: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue seen this?
[01:20] <Fred21> help me if possible
[01:20] <longwave> Fred21: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[01:20] <Fred21> longwave: i followed the instructions but it can't work
[01:20] <longwave> congratulations Abst!
[01:20] <Abst> Thanks
[01:20] <Fred21> longwave: i use be.archive.ubuntu.com and belgacom as mirrors
[01:21] <Abst> I'm really liking it. And I think Linux is simpler than windows
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Backeman: Not without special tools
[01:21] <don_jr> Anyone know how to get my sound to work?
[01:21] <computerex> Yep. I am getting this one step at a time. Before, I couldnt even run the setup. Now, the whole install went perfect, except I got stuck on the prompt for password. Hopefully, this time it will get me all the way through. Thanks for the help. Might be back ;)
[01:21] <Abst> Apart from install stuff, haven't got the hand of that yet
[01:21] <VVraith> is there any list for recommended hardware or such?  I am looking for a supported Sata Raid controller that I could use with ubuntu
[01:21] <gre1> is there a way to check for open ports in my firewall?
[01:21] <Abst> Erm
[01:21] <Abst> Lemme find that website
[01:21] <UPC> I am getting errors installing with Synaptic
[01:21] <VVraith> gre1, use a port scanner
[01:21] <Backeman> Jack_Sparrow: I saw a post on ubuntuforums about testdisk, Im trying that now. Do you have another one in mind? Is it hard?
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr: WHat onboard sound do you have?
[01:21] <longwave> Fred21: i thought all the mirrors were updated by now. you could try using the US or GB mirrors for now, then switch back after you fix that package
[01:21] <gre1> what a good port scanner?
[01:21] <UPC> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[01:21] <UPC> A package failed to install. Trying to recover:
[01:22] <Backeman> gre1: nmap
[01:22] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow how can I find that out?
[01:22] <Abst> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
[01:22] <Abst> Port scanner
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Backeman: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[01:22] <Abst> I think
[01:22] <UPC> How can I fix that?
[01:22] <don_jr> UPC sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:22] <Fred21> longwave: i must use gb or us mirrors? are there updated?
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr: Look in your manual, look up your motherboad model online..
[01:23] <VVraith> backeman, there is another famous port scanner, can you think of it?
[01:23] <longwave> Fred21: i thought every mirror was updated by now, but i know the GB and US mirrors are definitely updated, so try those for now
[01:23] <VVraith> i'm drawing a brain fart
[01:23] <ezio> Boa noite!
[01:23] <longwave> VVraith: nessus?
[01:23] <jrib> VVraith: nmap?
[01:23] <Fred21> longwave: i use be.archive.ubuntu.com, there is an update for xserve
[01:24] <ezio> Algum do Brasil?
[01:24] <jrib> !br
[01:24] <Fred21> but when i reboot the computer, i can't be able to log me
[01:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:24] <longwave> Fred21: ok, have you done "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[01:24] <VVraith> no, neither of those
[01:24] <NullVector> quick simple question, whats a good program to rip audio cd's with? preferably in ogg with a respectable player?
[01:24] <Fred21> longwave: before apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ofcourse ;-)
[01:24] <Backeman> VVraith: Uhh, nope. I have just used nmap the few times I have used a portscanner...
[01:24] <VVraith> man, now I am gonna be all preoccupied till I think of it
[01:25] <longwave> nmap, shields up and nessus are the only ones i can think of right now :)
[01:25] <VVraith> oh, nm, I'm thinking of Ethereal, but that is a packet sniffer, sorry
[01:25] <mikeconcepts> how do I join an xgl channel from xchat, have an xgl related question
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> shieldsup is what I use
[01:25] <VVraith> ok, how can I find a supported sata raid controller that works with ubuntu?
[01:25] <Fred21> longwave: i made sudo apt-get update before apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ;-)
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gibson research
[01:25] <longwave> mikeconcepts: /join #ubuntu-xgl
[01:25] <Abst> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
[01:25] <squelly> Can anyone help me get get my network conection working?
[01:25] <Abst> Shields up
[01:26] <mikeconcepts> squelly: thx
[01:26] <longwave> Fred21: so it still does not work after the latest update?
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid > VVraith
[01:26] <Fred21> longwave: it doesn't work after update
[01:26] <NullVector> can amaroK rip cd's and convert to ogg?
[01:27] <VVraith> ty jack
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:28] <longwave> Fred21: do you know which version of the package you have now? if you have xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 installed, that is the newest working version...
[01:28] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow from what I can find it's a Camino2 integrated sound card
[01:29] <Fred21> longwave: what's the command to know it?
[01:29] <longwave> Fred21: "dpkg -s xserver-xorg-core"
[01:30] <Abst> Is there any listing of apt-get stuff sorted by category (e.g. games, code)?
[01:30] <Fred21> longwave: can you see if a server is update? i use ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be
[01:31] <neeophyte> I can play mp3 file on desktop running ubuntu (opens Totem) but can't get that file to play from xChat... can someone help?
[01:31] <sysdoc> Backeman, The two basic tools to help you would be dump2s and debug2fs.
[01:31] <jrib> Abst: synaptic lists them by category, packages.ubuntu.com if you want web
[01:31] <Abst> Synaptic is ALL apt-get?
[01:31] <Fred21> longwave: i see the last update are 29august on mirror of skynet
[01:31] <vge> Abst: try synaptic, it lists paggages by category
[01:31] <UPC> don_jr::: I got some bus error.
[01:32] <longwave> Fred21: yes, that has the latest deb
[01:32] <longwave> Fred21: ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[01:32] <UPC> don_jr: in the terminal
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> upc he is gone
[01:33] <brendonjt> Kia ora  one and all
[01:33] <squelly> Does a typical fresh install have web access?
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> fyi that looks like INtel chipset... ac97
[01:33] <beemonk> What app would read .pls files ? (playlists from shoutcast)
[01:33] <longwave> Fred21: is it the same error that is on http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue ?
[01:33] <Fred21> longwave: yes
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: yes unless wireless problems
[01:33] <brendonjt> squelly:  umm yip  v
[01:34] <UPC> nuts
[01:34] <longwave> squelly: if you have a wired network, yes. wireless may need some configuring
[01:34] <Fred21> longwave: is be.archive.ubuntu.com updated too?
[01:34] <UPC> anyone else have any ideas?
[01:34] <longwave> Fred21: yes
[01:34] <squelly> Jack_Sparrow: I'm using a wired nic, the live CD worked fine, the install doesnt get out.
[01:35] <Fred21> longwave: the update doesn't work here :-(
[01:35] <neeophyte> anyone?
[01:35] <Fred21> longwave: i've the update and reboot with ctrl+alt+del
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: and no other changes... odd...
[01:35] <beemonk> :/
[01:35] <Fred21> longwave: the error msg will be display after the reboot
[01:35] <brendonjt> beemonk: umm not sure but i think  and app that can read .pls (amarok, xmms, xine)
[01:36] <Fred21> !mp3
[01:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:36] <squelly> Jack_SParrow: right, no other changes. just clicked install from the working live CD.
[01:36] <Fred21> !aac
[01:36] <beemonk> ah Rythmbox can, sorry
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> UPC: what are you trying to install
[01:36] <beemonk> thanks brendonjt
[01:36] <brendonjt> beemonk: no worries
[01:37] <NullVector> any suggestions on what program can rip adudio cd's and convert to ogg at the same time?
[01:37] <silentj> gnomebaker?
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: check out grip
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !grip
[01:37] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[01:38] <Fred21> longwave: why doesn't work after the update?
[01:38] <jrib> NullVector: sound juicer as well
[01:38] <longwave> squelly: is there only one network card in that computer? what does system > administration > networking say?
[01:38] <wsg> Anyone know are there any issues on a USB based system, no PS/2 Keyborad or Mouse support
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: I'm still trying to think as to what the problem may be.
[01:38] <longwave> Fred21: sorry,  i don't know. i thought all the problems were fixed with the newest update, but maybe not...
[01:38] <silentj> "I have a question, If I wanted to save my installed files and stuff as like a backup so I can put all my settings and apps onto a diffedrent computer or incase of a hard drive crash I could have a back up, is there a way to do that???
[01:39] <longwave> !backup
[01:39] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[01:39] <Abst> When I try to use Xmms it says my soundcard is in use/not configured. When I use Totem it plays fine, aswell as the ubuntu welcome music
[01:39] <Fred21> longwave: if i remove the package (xserver-xorg-core) and reinstall it again, i will be mut to update it after?
[01:39] <squelly> longwave: right, only one network card. IN the connections it says 'eth0 The interface eth0 is active"
[01:39] <jrib> Abst: go to xmms' preferences and tell it to use alsa
[01:39] <Abst> Okay
[01:39] <longwave> Fred21: you can try that, but i am not sure it will make any difference
[01:39] <Abst> Ill try that
[01:40] <brendonjt> adst: i have found xmms not very stable i use amarok  for my media it is great
[01:40] <gabriel_> epa
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[01:40] <gabriel_> soy venezolano
[01:40] <Abst> brendonjt: I'll download and try that too, thanks
[01:40] <Fred21> longwave: i will try, i will be back to say informations.. thank you very much
[01:40] <Fred21> see you..
[01:40] <longwave> squelly: what is on the other end of the ethernet cable? a cable/dsl home router or something else?
[01:40] <ubuntu> hi, sorry, complete newb here, could anyone tell me if it's possible to read a windows xp formatted hard drive using an ubuntu live cd
[01:40] <brendonjt> adst: amarok uses the xine engine
[01:40] <squelly> longwave: verizon FIOS router.
[01:40] <dr_willis> ubuntu yes.
[01:40] <fallingdutch> wohoooooo, got ubuntu running on en ecrypted hd :)
[01:41] <wsg> ubuntu mount the drive
[01:41] <NullVector> jack_Sparrow: Grip bug fix, how do I find my hd number? my File system is labeled on the SATA Drive
[01:41] <ubuntu> dr willis how? i don't know where to go from file system
[01:41] <silentj> Is there a way to download the whole Ubuntu Wikki? So I can like look for whaver I want without being online??
[01:41] <steph291> hi Guys !
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0" will renew the IP address for eth0
[01:41] <brendonjt> fallingdutch:  what you mean on a encrypted hdd
[01:41] <ubuntu> i'm trying to browse the hard drive like i would in windows explorer. how do i mount?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: it should be cdrom  Zero
[01:42] <dr_willis> ubuntu http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[01:42] <steph291> I have a question :
[01:42] <Warbo> ubuntu: It should appear as a desktop icon. If not try Places>Computer
[01:42] <NullVector> that n, i need X
[01:42] <longwave> squelly: okay, i don't know much about fios. try what Jack_Sparrow said, then type "ifconfig" at a terminal and put the output in a pastebin for us to see
[01:42] <fallingdutch> brendonjt, encrypted with sha256, using cryptsetup luks  dm-crypt
[01:42] <silentj> ubuntu you can sure
[01:42] <silentj> you just have to mount it
[01:42] <silentj> but if its ntfs you cant write to it which sucks ass
[01:42] <Jamminpotato> if i compile firefox for my own use will it make it faster or does that only work for the kernel?
[01:43] <steph291> does ubuntu : support dual-display ?
[01:43] <Warbo> Jamminpotato: Try swiftfox. They apparently compile it for speed
[01:43] <dr_willis> Jamminpotato,  i doubt if its worth the effort.
[01:43] <longwave> Jamminpotato: you almost definitely won't notice any difference in speed
[01:43] <fallingdutch> steph291, yes
[01:43] <wheelswitch> is there any one around who uses network manager?
[01:43] <brendonjt> fallingdutch:  so you encrypted your hdd  when you installed ubuntu  is it on a desktop or lappy
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: system admin disks
[01:43] <ubuntu> thanks silentj, i'll google for how to mount a drive in linux
[01:43] <dr_willis> steph291,  you can set up 2 displays. but theres no auto-set-up-tools for it. (that i know of)
[01:43] <steph291> FallingDutch : automatic ?
[01:43] <squelly> longwave , Jack_Sparrow: OK, I'll try now. dunno what a pastebin is, tho' sorry.
[01:43] <longwave> !paste
[01:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:43] <Jamminpotato> thanks Warbo
[01:43] <fallingdutch> brendonjt, yes, installed the ubuntu onto the encrypted hd, its a lappy
[01:43] <StoneNote> Jamminpotato, you can make firefox a bit faster by doing this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_load_Web_site_faster_in_Mozilla_Firefox
[01:43] <silentj> ubuntu sudo mount /media/whatever
[01:43] <fallingdutch> steph291, in my case by using the nvidia driver, which supports it
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks longwave
[01:43] <steph291> thanks
[01:43] <ladydoor> Jamminpotato: plus there's swiftfox
[01:43] <Warbo> ubuntu: http://tldp.org is useful. But Ubuntu help is on http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[01:44] <wickers> How can I get OOo to remember my language settings?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[01:44] <dbe> How can I figure out if I use a Intel Centrino or Intel Centurion processor, cat /proc/cpuinfo just says: model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
[01:44] <VVraith> jack_sparrow:  the article seems to be for ppl doing raid0 and I can't figure out if they are doing fresh installs or are adding the raid0 after the initial install.  I want to do raid1 as a fresh install.
[01:44] <Jamminpotato> StoneNote, i did those tweaks back in like 0.8
[01:44] <dr_willis> i thought Centrino was the  marketing name for the cpu+chipset
[01:44] <Juhaz> VVraith, "centrino" or "centurion" isn't a processor
[01:44] <longwave> dr_willis: that's right
[01:44] <steph291> is there a howto to set my dual-display ?
[01:44] <wheelswitch> any one who uses network manager, what is your start up command (you can find it in system>preferences>sessions>startup programs)
[01:44] <tomcatt> !ubotu wireless
[01:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:44] <wsg> I am getting ready to try UBUNTU on a Hyprethreaded system, a small step for me, moved from a P4 2.8 to a 3.0 ghz P4 with hyperthreading ....
[01:45] <wickers> wsg, don't hold your breath.
[01:45] <VVraith> Juhaz, I didn't say that :)
[01:45] <dr_willis> steph291,  i found a Gentoo Wiki Page - and used their examples.. Search for "Twinview"
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> VVraith: I dont run raid, all I had was the link
[01:45] <squelly> Jack_Sparrow: sudo ifup eth0 said: "No working leases in persistent database"
[01:45] <Jamminpotato> where could i find swift fox?
[01:45] <tomcatt> !ubotu wifi
[01:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:45] <Juhaz> VVraith, oops, sorry.
[01:45] <wsg> wickers i know, I have done UBUNTU on 64 bit, now that was a Large step, and improvement
[01:45] <Jamminpotato> !ubotu swiftfox > Jamminpotato
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <steph291> damn, there's a lot of action in here ! I like it
[01:45] <Tiger-z> hi, has anyone got lm-sensors working with Gigabyte 965p-DS3 mobo?
[01:46] <trygg> What was the link to howto get xgl working on ubuntu?
[01:46] <steph291> remembering me of the old days with rh :)))
[01:46] <wsg> steph291 I am impressed by the UBUNTU channel, actualy has growen larger than Debian.
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: what did ifconfig say?
[01:46] <fallingdutch> steph291, what kind of card do you have?
[01:46] <steph291> understood
[01:47] <longwave> squelly: was there any other output other than that from ifup?
[01:47] <brendonjt> wsg:  yeah  this is a good channel
[01:47] <trygg> I dont know if this is how, but lets try
[01:47] <steph291> Fallingdutch : voodoo5500 agp with matrox g400
[01:47] <Psykus> anyone know how I would keep track of max uptime? I know I can use the 'uptime' command to get the current uptime
[01:47] <wsg> Been in here on and off for 2 + years now ...
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[01:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:47] <cracka12> hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?
[01:47] <Jamminpotato> anyone know a reposotoriy or where i could find swift fox
[01:47] <longwave> Psykus: check out the uptimed package
[01:48] <squelly> Jack_sparrow: I got sections, one called "eth0" and one called "lo" If you want the whole thing I can retype it on this machine... Is there a particular line you want to see?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin > squelly
[01:48] <edju> Strangest thing - on the laptop, insert a commercial data cd, Scrabble game, Netgear insallation, etc, and it's mounted and is read w/o a hitch.  Insert a Linux livcd, knoppix, ubuntu, etc. and ubuntu sees it as a blank cd.  Mount OK on a desktop machine.  Anybody w/ a hint?
[01:48] <steph291> I'm not sure yet if I will hd install ...
[01:48] <wheelswitch> !NETWORKMANAGER
[01:48] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[01:48] <fallingdutch> steph291, i have one card with two outputs .... dont know how to do it with two cards ... but it doesn't depend on ubuntu it depends on xorg ... search for dualdisplay and xorg - i found how to do it with my card with these words, too :-)
[01:48] <Fred21> re
[01:48] <Fred21> longwave: re
[01:48] <phasegen> anyone try installing on a machine with raid?  Particularly with promise fastrax?
[01:48] <Fred21> longwave: the problem is the sam
[01:48] <Psykus> longwave, thanks, exactly what I was looking for :)
[01:48] <steph291> they call that twinview
[01:49] <longwave> squelly: in the eth0 section, what does it say on the "inet addr" line?
[01:49] <cracka12> phasegen: you trying to raid your boot drive?
[01:49] <Fred21> longwave: the update can't change the problem,
[01:49] <fallingdutch> phasegen, got a soft-raid here, but only for data, not as root device
[01:50] <squelly> longwave: inet addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 in the "lo" section. That line is not present in eth0
[01:50] <Fred21> the update for the problem with x doesn't work
[01:50] <cracka12> phasegen: if your going to raid everything but your boot drive other wise grub wont take it and your sol. i did that yesterday
[01:50] <steph291> and by the way, with the live cd ubuntu, it starts in 640x480 ... really annoying
[01:50] <cracka12> hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?
[01:50] <squelly> longwave: only an inet6 addr enttry.
[01:50] <phasegen> cracka12: a buddy of mine is, can he run raid while booting to an ide drive?
[01:50] <nosse> I would like to get some files from my friends trough samba, can anyone recommend some program to do that?
[01:51] <phasegen> cracka12: I don't do raid...
[01:51] <steph291> this is why i'm not sure if I will hd install
[01:51] <Psykus> uptime, 5 days, 23:52:16 :D
[01:51] <squelly> Jack_Sparrow: If the pastebin is something you want, it's trapped on the computer with the nonworking card. not sure how I would get it to you.
[01:51] <jjjjjjj> got a problem.... i am running ubuntu on a mac.  can realplayer work on this platform?
[01:51] <cracka12> phasegen: yea that should work perfectly fine i run on just 10 gig then i raid0 a couple of 40's
[01:51] <cracka12> phasegen: for data
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: no.. that is ok... I am done for the day anyhow
[01:52] <fallingdutch> phasegen, you can even use a raid as root-dev but have to play with the initial ramdisk  ....
[01:52] <Fred21> is there someone has the probleme with the update on 21th august about x11
[01:52] <phasegen> cracka12: that's what he wants to do... cool.  Thanks.
[01:52] <steph291> doing it by hand ? (dual display) is not fun
[01:52] <squelly> Jack_SParrow: OK. THanks for the help so far.
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:52] <nahoj> argh. my sound just dissapeard after update??
[01:52] <cracka12> phasegen: yup just figured all that crap out yesterday too :) haha
[01:52] <Fred21> i made the update but xserver can't be started ;-(
[01:52] <longwave> squelly: type "dmesg | grep eth0" to see if there are any kernel messages about your network card
[01:53] <cracka12> hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?
[01:53] <Abst> Haha
[01:53] <Abst> apt-get install cowsay
[01:53] <phasegen> cracka12  fallingdutch   Thank You both.
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> steph291:  You know how to setup dual monitors manually but NOT how to change the default res ?
[01:53] <longwave> squelly: ahhh, actually, do you know if your router needs PPPoE to work? googling for verizon fios suggests it does..
[01:54] <Psykus> also, can someone tell me how to remove the automatically detected device for my wireless card? it doesn't work right, and I think it's conflicting with ndiswrapper when I try to use it
[01:54] <nosse> jjjjjjj: what do you need realplayer for?
[01:54] <fallingdutch> how do i again change my kblayout and my language?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> longwave: not to mention port forwarding..  :)
[01:54] <Psykus> there's a link on the wiki that supposedly has how to do it, but the link is dead
[01:54] <Fred21> longwave: when i type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core it say "you've the latest update"
[01:54] <ubuntu_> hi, i'm wondering how i can drop files on a folder that's shared on a windows computer on this network... on KDE it was just smb://192.168.0.whatever
[01:54] <steph291> Captain Jack Sparrow : No I don't know how to set taht up manually
[01:55] <steph291> in mandriva : it works right away
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> stephI just say you telling someone it was not fun, I assumed you had some sort of personal experience
[01:55] <longwave> Fred21: i dont know why your X still isn't working, you have the latest package. do you know what video card or driver you are using?
[01:55] <Jamminpotato> swiftfox is faster
[01:55] <steph291> yes I have :\
[01:55] <squelly> longwave: eth0 Xircom Carbus adapter.... eth0 link is up running at 100Mbit, half duplex ...eth0 noIPV6 routers present ... eth0 Link is up running at 100Mbit half duplex ...eth0 no IPV6 routers present ... eth0 MII transceiver #0 config 3100 status 7809 advertising 01el
[01:55] <fallingdutch> ubuntu_, you can mount the share with mount -t smbfs //192.whaterver/share /mnt/wherever
[01:55] <Fred21> longwave: nvidia
[01:56] <ubuntu_> thanks, fallingdutch
[01:56] <silentj> Does anyone know of a good chess game for Ubin2?
[01:56] <fallingdutch> ubuntu_, np
[01:56] <silentj> I got this Xboard but it sux
[01:56] <Fred21> longwave: i've a nvidia geforce4 mx 440 with nvidia driver
[01:57] <ladydoor> silentj: emacs-chess (if you already use emacs, lol)
[01:57] <fallingdutch> Fred21, are there some [EE]  lines when you start X?
[01:57] <owen_> my rhythmbox is not playing any music... i installed the mp3 codecs, it detects them, but doesnt play them, it just displays the name real quick, than stops...
[01:58] <MrFeetio> hi i wanted to know how to make it so while im playing music system sounds dont play
[01:58] <Fred21> fallingdutch: i've the error msg "x server ..."
[01:58] <Fred21> the same msg in the website of ubuntu about update of xserver
[01:58] <steph291> Dual-Display in Linux is pain ... when you have to tweak the x config... ah man
[01:58] <fallingdutch> Fred21, go to a console (ctrl+alt+F2) and run "startx" and check for lines with [EE] 
[01:59] <Fred21> ok i'm seeing, i will back
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !twinview
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <steph291> check the logs when having prob. with X
[01:59] <zerokarmaleft> my network connection is erratic after configuring it for a static ip
[01:59] <Jamminpotato> anyone here use swiftfox
[02:00] <fallingdutch> steph291, it is running very smooth here ;)
[02:00] <owen_> !codecs
[02:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:00] <ubuntu_> fallingdutch: "sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.105/Share-Hansy /mnt/wherever" is giving errors, it says wrong fs type, bad option, or bad superblock ...could this be related to the fact that i'm on a live CD?
[02:00] <zerokarmaleft> about every 30 minutes, everything i'm doing network-related times out
[02:00] <MrFeetio> zerokarmaleft:i had similar problems but i just rest the router and restarted the computer and things got better
[02:00] <steph291> Fallingdutch : send me your xorg config
[02:00] <cracka12> hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?
[02:00] <Jamminpotato> no swiftFox users?
[02:01] <Miek> i'm having problems running most games, i get an error similar to "Could not initialize SDL Video subsystem: No I/O port permissions."
[02:01] <david1234> FINALLY
[02:01] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, I'm using it
[02:01] <david1234> yeah yeah
[02:01] <owen_> what software can you use to convert mp3's to the vorbis format?
[02:01] <david1234> i ve been trying to get here for days
[02:01] <fallingdutch> ubuntu_, you have to install smbfs
[02:01] <Fred21> re
[02:01] <ubuntu_> okay, i'll try that
[02:01] <fallingdutch> steph291, which card are you using?
[02:01] <steph291> Miek : xorg config need a set of lines to "set" permission for hardware accelkeration
[02:01] <Fred21> it doesn't work :-(
[02:01] <longwave> squelly: sorry for the delay, i've been reading up about how fios works but can't find much that's helpful. try "sudo pppoeconf" and answer any questions about your internet connection, there is possibly a bug where the live cd settings do not get saved correctly later on.
[02:02] <david1234> question : what do i need to dowload to be able to see my windows files?
[02:02] <Fred21> when i type startx, it say can't to connectt xserver
[02:02] <russellb> I cant drag and drop icons off the application menu to the desktop. If I right click on an icon in the app menu it just lunches the program. Any ideas?
[02:02] <steph291> fallingdutch : voodoo5500 agp and pci matrox g400
[02:02] <squelly> longwave: OK, I;ll do that now.
[02:03] <fallingdutch> steph291, i have only one card so i dont think you can use much of my config
[02:03] <Fred21> longwave: it doesn't work... is it possible to reinstall xserver?
[02:03] <steph291> yes
[02:03] <steph291> I mean falllingdutch :)
[02:03] <Fred21> the update doesn't work correctly
[02:03] <longwave> Fred21: i'm not sure why it doesn't work, i don't think reinstalling X will help...
[02:03] <david1234> helloooo
[02:03] <steph291> lolll
[02:03] <steph291> a man
[02:03] <david1234> how can i see my windows files from ubuntu?
[02:04] <longwave> Fred21: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254 - there may be something in there you can try
[02:04] <squelly> longwave: "Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access concentrator of you provider did not respond..."
[02:04] <brendonjt> david1234:  mount the drive
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs
[02:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:04] <Fred21> longwave: my xserver is broken
[02:04] <russellb> david1234: on the ame computer or as a mapped drive?
[02:05] <russellb> Connect to windows shares with Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:05] <brianprogrammer> I currently Have ubuntu installed and I have a wireless network adapter, however, somebody told me that the Gnome-Network-Manager is much better than the default one that comes installed on ubuntu. How do I set this up?
[02:05] <brianprogrammer> I ran sudo apt-get install gnome-network-manager
[02:06] <russellb> brianprogrammer: did it install it
[02:06] <brianprogrammer> yes
[02:06] <brianprogrammer> when i restarted
[02:06] <Fred21> longwave: i must reinstall ubuntu?
[02:06] <brianprogrammer> the gnome-network-manager has an icon
[02:06] <VVraith> do any of you know of a "pci" not "pci-x,pci64" sata hardware raid controller?
[02:06] <brianprogrammer> however it reports no network connection
[02:06] <Fred21> ubuntu makes a mistake and many people are in the problem :-(
[02:06] <russellb> brianprogrammer: I have never used it before so I couldn't tell you past that
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> VVraith: Did you look in the supported hardware list
[02:07] <trygg> !xgl
[02:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:07] <steph291> the livecd of ubuntu : when X start: resolution is 640x480 :( pain in the a...
[02:07] <david1234> yeah is nfts
[02:07] <fallingdutch> Fred21, have you seen [EE]  lines?
[02:07] <fallingdutch> too late
[02:07] <russellb> I cant drag and drop icons off the application menu to the desktop. Is there a setting for this someplace?
[02:07] <david1234> before i downloaded some thing that let me see my windows drives but i dont remember
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> david1234: You could run the diskmounter script
[02:08] <david1234> wht is that?
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[02:08] <VVraith> jack_sparrow: i asked if there was one earlier, but no one mentioned
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[02:08] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:08] <steph291> networkneiboorhood >
[02:08] <VVraith> alrighty :)
[02:08] <steph291> :\
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> VVraith: I must have been napping  :)
[02:08] <brendonjt> russellb: select the icon with left click,  and drag to the desktop
[02:08] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, when you use swiftfox, does it still say firefox everywher in and on the browser?
[02:09] <fallingdutch> how do i set my locales again? and my Kblayout?
[02:09] <fallingdutch> !kblayout
[02:09] <russellb> brendonjt: yeah that does not work
[02:09] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, no it says swiftfox
[02:09] <russellb> strange huh
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kblayout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <VVraith> Jack_Sparrow:  damn, I've seen that page, it doesn't include raid controllers
[02:09] <fallingdutch> !keyboard
[02:09] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[02:09] <Tiger-z> !lm-sensors
[02:10] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[02:10] <^Z3D^> anyone here running counterstrike source?
[02:10] <brendonjt> russellb: i just went to the applications->internet and draged amsn  to the desktop  hold the left mouse button and drag  it to the desktop
[02:10] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, cause i installed it and whe n i launch swift fox from the terminal it still says firefox
[02:10] <VVraith> HardwareSupportComponentsSerialATAControllers  is there, but it is not a link yet
[02:10] <steph291> btw : it's Captain Jack Sparrow :) with a big C
[02:10] <VVraith> suggests it is coming, but not there yet
[02:10] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, apps>internet>swiftfox
[02:11] <brendonjt> Captian Jack Sparrow: ya got the black perl back yet lol
[02:11] <fishy> How do I enable FastCGI on my Ubuntu server?
[02:11] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, its not in there
[02:11] <longwave> squelly: i have found a couple of old threads where people talk about that access concentrator error, but no fix
[02:11] <russellb> brendonjt: Yeah, done it a million times in other OS's... does not work in Ubuntu for me. Fresh install too
[02:11] <longwave> squelly: have you tried powering off the pc and router, powering the router on and waiting for it to start, then powering the pc back on?
[02:11] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, install it with Automatix
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> VVraith: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[02:11] <russellb> brendonjt: if I right click on an app all it does it launch the app
[02:12] <brendonjt> russellb: hmm that weird  cos it just worked for me,  and i am using dapper LTS, fresh install a day ago
[02:12] <squelly> longwave: I tried that earlier, no joy.
[02:12] <VVraith> ty again jack, lookin
[02:12] <brendonjt> russellb: LEFT click  not right click
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:12] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, how do i use automatix, i jsut followed the ubuntu directions on getswiftfox.com
[02:13] <VVraith> ha ha ha, I've seen that one too
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sysdoc: friends dont let friends try automatix
[02:13] <ben````> holy shit, lotsa of people
[02:13] <longwave> squelly: sorry, i am stumped then :(
[02:13] <sysdoc> Jack_Sparrow, lol, worked fine for me
[02:13] <Warbo> !workedforme
[02:13] <russellb> brendonjt: yes, just like in other OS's... not working
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workedforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[02:13] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !works
[02:13] <minerale> Hi could someoen help me setup my printer with samba? I have the printed wofking fine on my computer and samba works too. My other computer is windows, I have looked up the shared printer added, it but when I try to print I get access denied messages, how do I enable one username to print?
[02:13] <Warbo> That's the one
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about works - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, http://www.getautomatix.com/
[02:14] <brendonjt> Captian Jack Sparrow: true about automatix heard it was a bit buggy and can reck havoc
[02:14] <squelly> longwave: s'ok. I appreciate you trying!
[02:14] <russellb> brendonjt: It should be common sense and I am sure it is but something is wrong here with my Ubuntu
[02:14] <ben````> lol
[02:14] <sysdoc> Jack_Sparrow, Automatix dork something up for you?
[02:14] <longwave> !automatix
[02:14] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:14] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, in synaptic it shows it being installed as well
[02:14] <ben````> soundgate irc's from root, what a weird
[02:14] <ben````> er
[02:14] <ben````> *doof
[02:14] <soundgate> why can't I send messages in other channels? e.g. #winehq
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sysdoc:  We get people in here EVERY day with systems trashed by automatix and easyubuntu
[02:14] <brendonjt> russellb: hmm  true  sorry for shouting and snapping,  umm not sure what  you have going on there  have you done all the updates
[02:14] <owen_> what software can you use to convert mp3's to FLAC format?
[02:15] <brendonjt> owen_: why use flac  why not ogg
[02:15] <cafuego> what would be the point of doing that?
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> stephans: good luck.
[02:15] <brendonjt> steph291:  don't do that why why why
[02:15] <inlanderf> hi
[02:15] <longwave> owen_: transcoding mp3s is never a good idea, and to flac would just be a waste of space
[02:16] <cafuego> owen_: When the mp3 was created, it was compressed and data was discraded. This data will not come back, ever. You'll just have a (low quality) flac eating disk space.
[02:16] <owen_> my rhythmbox is not playing mp3's for some reason, and I have them installed
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> steph291 had no intention of using ubuntu
[02:16] <russellb> brendonjt: Nope, have not updated. This is my first time with Ubuntu. I am used to Suse. Its also first time with Gnome. Im a KDE user
[02:16] <ladydoor> owen_: though transcoding mp3s to ogg is a good idea :-)
[02:17] <ladydoor> owen_: i've never had a problem with i
[02:17] <ladydoor> t
[02:17] <Arrick> _jason you here?
[02:17] <cafuego> ladydoor: No, it's an even worse diea than converting them to flac.
[02:17] <ladydoor> ( sudo aptitude install mp32ogg )
[02:17] <neeophyte> can someone tell me the path to the Totem sound player app ?
[02:17] <Arrick> cafuego, you know much about vmware in windows?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> russellb: You may be more comfortable in Kubuntu
[02:17] <brendonjt> russellb: ok  umm do all your updates  as it might help
[02:17] <ladydoor> cafuego: uhhh...why? ogg is higher quality than mp3
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> russellb: with Kubuntu
[02:17] <ladydoor> cafuego: and i've never had a probelem with it
[02:17] <cafuego> ladydoor: Not if your source matrial is mp3.
[02:17] <red|rain> neeja, its /usr/bin/totem
[02:17] <russellb> I found if I right click on a desktop Icon and choose creat New -> launcher then I can make an Icon on my desktop
[02:17] <sysdoc> Jack_Sparrow, well I didn't try to install the nvidia driver, but it seems to do fine with everything else. And that is unusual for this laptop. Seems everything with this box needs the longest most convoluted methods to get things installed..
[02:17] <longwave> ladydoor: there is still a quality loss doing that, compared to taking the original cd straight to ogg. you may as well keep them as mp3 unless you don't want to install things from multiverse for some reason :)
[02:17] <russellb> I am wanting to learn gnome more
[02:17] <cafuego> ladydoor: Converting from lossy -> lossy = 2xlossy.
[02:18] <Xenguy> neeophyte: type: which totem
[02:18] <russellb> thanks for are your help!
[02:18] <cracka12> hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sysdoc: np, it is just that we do try to discourage automatix and easyubuntu
[02:18] <owen_> alright so ogg vorbis and flac is only recommended if coming straight from the cd right?
[02:18] <Arrick> does anyone here know how to turn of a device driver in vmware on windows?
[02:18] <neeophyte> Red|rain tks
[02:18] <cafuego> Arrick: No, but a bit about windows in vmware ;-)
[02:18] <anthony> longwave, I sorted the language problem! CLose all OOo windows -> new document -> alter language.  That's it.  If there is another doc needed in Proper English, simply copy paste & overwrite! seems to work so far anyways!  cheers
[02:18] <red|rain> neeja, no prob ^_^
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sysdoc: We seem to end up with very unhappy peoiple
[02:18] <Arrick> (i realize its a bit out of the topic here)
[02:18] <cafuego> Arrick: Probably just go to the hardware manager and disble the device.
[02:19] <Arrick> cafuego, its not in the device manager,
[02:19] <owen_> how do i get my rhythmbox player to play the mp3's that it has in the library, it was playing them before, i have the gstreamer codecs installed...
[02:19] <cafuego> Arrick: Services?
[02:19] <longwave> anthony: ah yeah, that's neater than modifying the language files - good idea :)
[02:19] <owen_> then when i restarted, its not playing them anymore
[02:19] <beemonk> xchat=weird
[02:19] <Arrick> "THe installer failed to stop the Vstor2 Virtual Storage Driver"
[02:19] <red|rain> beemonk, whats weird about xchat?
[02:20] <anthony> xchat's ace
[02:20] <_w^x_> where does the mythTV package create th "myth" directory?
[02:20] <beemonk> umm, well im trying to use it like its mIRC
[02:20] <beemonk> :P
[02:20] <_w^x_> *the
[02:20] <red|rain> beemonk, ahh icic
[02:20] <Arrick> cafuego, ^
[02:20] <ladydoor> longwave: aha
[02:20] <cafuego> Arrick: probably services
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> beemonk:  try konversation...
[02:20] <beemonk> i've just come from that lol
[02:20] <brendonjt> red|rain: xchat is good  but xchat-gnome is yuk
[02:21] <Arrick> ok, just tried that, hopefully someone knows more on it
[02:21] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, if it is installed and you don't have a launcher for it in the menus, rt clk applications>edit menus, see if you can find it in there
[02:21] <beemonk> brendonjt: reccomend = ?
[02:21] <Aman> where i can install C complier?
[02:21] <minerale> Please could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?
[02:21] <ladydoor> Aman: build-essential
[02:21] <longwave> Aman: install the "build-essential" package
[02:21] <brendonjt> beemonk: xchat  is good nice interface as well,  bitchx is good that is terminal  based
[02:21] <inlanderf> what is a good gui ftp  apt
[02:22] <thybo> why is the dev repository of skype unavailable?
[02:22] <Huck> inlander gftp
[02:22] <longwave> inlanderf: just use places > connect to server in gnome?
[02:22] <inlanderf> thanks
[02:22] <wwseb> hello, have you try to setup ubuntu on macbook ?
[02:22] <inlanderf> how do i install it huck
[02:22] <Huck> sudo apt-get install gftp
[02:23] <Huck> you might need repositories
[02:23] <inlanderf> ill try it
[02:23] <foxjwill> does anyone know how to force use of the Dapper versio nof libpoppler1 vs. the compiz version? evidently (according to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424) I need to install it to be able to install kubuntu-desktop.
[02:23] <jud> I've been having problems with my broadcom, I've now gotten to the point where I can see my wireless router in the wireless assistant program, but can't connect.  Anyone have any ideas?
[02:24] <fallingdutch> foxjwill, search for pinning guess the technique is in ubuntu still the same
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> foxjwill: that will install the kde apps that are part of Kubuntu, you will not end up with Kubuntu
[02:24] <clusty> i reinstalled windows and it overwrote grub
[02:24] <Trae> What if DMA is already 1 and you are still getting jerky playback on your DVD?  http://www.shorttext.com/93rfh
[02:24] <fallingdutch> clusty, that is normal ;)
[02:24] <longwave> !grub > clusty
[02:24] <peteweez> clusty: yeah windows is carnivorous that way
[02:24] <clusty> how can i rewrite the MBR with grub?
[02:24] <thybo> how do you remove amsn configurations?
[02:24] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, like i launch swift fox and the title bar and about say firefox
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jud: Port forwarding from the router comes to mind..
[02:24] <clusty> i know
[02:24] <Trae> I'm getting some odd error:  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[02:24] <_w^x_> who can I find out what a package will do if i install it? such as what directoriess will it create?
[02:24] <HeathenDan> that's to be expected clusty
[02:25] <peteweez> clusty: boot with live cd, run install-grub
[02:25] <_w^x_> where does the mythTV package create th "myth" directory?
[02:25] <clusty> !grub > clusty
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I need to start dinner, I will lurk for awhile
[02:25] <HeathenDan> go to wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <beemonk> Whats everyone using for aim/msn/* ?
[02:25] <thybo> gaim
[02:25] <pike_> jud: if you do "sudo iwconfig ath0 essid networkname" and then "sudo dhclient ath0"    where ath0 would be your device name does it get an ip address?
[02:25] <brendonjt> beemonk: amsn
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gaim
[02:25] <beemonk> :)
[02:25] <_w^x_> Gaim!
[02:25] <Aman> where i can install this: checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev ??
[02:25] <jmhodges> ok, i've tried debugging myself, and i've checked the wiki
[02:26] <thybo> msn& aim gaim
[02:26] <_w^x_> xchat for irc or irssi
[02:26] <longwave> _w^x_: what do you expect to be stored in that directory?
[02:26] <tlhenry> gain rocks , except the webcam function is not there
[02:26] <jmhodges> but for the life of me, i can't figure out why my SBLive card is recognized, but refuses to play any audio
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[02:26] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:26] <jmhodges> i went through alsamixer and everything
[02:26] <jmhodges> i'm totally confused
[02:26] <brendonjt> _w^X_:xchat
[02:26] <clusty> thanx
[02:26] <_w^x_> no
[02:26] <_w^x_> no
[02:26] <Huck> jmhodges: do you have more than one soundcard?
[02:26] <NullVector> anyone know where I can find xgl/compiz themes, I had a site somewhere, but seems I can't find it now?
[02:27] <jmhodges> Huck, apparently, its seeing three1
[02:27] <longwave> Aman: which version of tcl do you need? there are a few versions in ubuntu
[02:27] <thybo> how do you clear cache?
[02:27] <jmhodges> Huck, but sblive is showing to aplay as snd card 0
[02:27] <foxjwill> jack_sparrow: than, how do i install kubuntu?
[02:27] <_w^x_> I'm asking about where the ubuntu provided mythTV package creates the myth directory...
[02:27] <Huck> jmhodges: can you disable onboard sound thorugh your mobo?
[02:27] <Aman> i need tcl to use amsn 0.96R
[02:27] <longwave> thybo: what cache?
[02:27] <jmhodges> Huck, erm, thats a good question
[02:27] <longwave> _w^x_: yes, what exactly is that directory for?
[02:27] <thybo> apt
[02:27] <Huck> jmhodges: hang on a sec, I just wenth thorugh something similar myself.
[02:27] <foxjwill> (sorry, i was afk)
[02:27] <jmhodges> Huck, cool, thanks
[02:27] <_w^x_> longwave, the media that you record I thing
[02:28] <longwave> _w^x_: is it part of the mythtv back end, front end or database?
[02:29] <foxjwill> Jack_Sparrow: than, how do i install kubuntu?
[02:29] <fallingdutch> night all
[02:29] <_w^x_> nevermind
[02:29] <brendonjt> foxjwill: download the kubuntu .iso
[02:29] <foxjwill> even though i already have dapper w/ gnome?
[02:30] <longwave> foxjwill: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:30] <foxjwill> does anyone know how to force use of the Dapper versio nof libpoppler1 vs. the compiz version? evidently (according to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424) I need to install it to be able to install kubuntu-desktop.
[02:30] <foxjwill> that's what i posted earlier
[02:30] <brendonjt> longwave:  opps  will that  just download the kde desktop and required files?
[02:31] <longwave> brendonjt: yes, and install them so you can choose kde as a desktop (works the same for xubuntu-desktop, too)
[02:31] <peteweez> foxjwill: you need to force the version
[02:31] <peteweez> foxjwill: do you have synaptic?
[02:31] <jjjjjjj> nosse:  i need realplayer to watch big brother.
[02:31] <foxjwill> peteweez: yes
[02:31] <Aman> !tcl
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <longwave> foxjwill: i suggest you remove compiz for now, install kde, then reinstall compiz
[02:32] <Huck> jmhodges: go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=sound+driver+order  and look for this: Configuring default soundcards / stopping multiple soundcards from switching
[02:32] <foxjwill> longwave: ok
[02:32] <jmhodges> Huck, ahhhh.. hmmm
[02:32] <longwave> foxjwill: maybe #ubuntu-xgl will have more help as they can deal better with xgl/compiz questions
[02:32] <peteweez> foxjwill, select force version on one of the menus
[02:32] <brendonjt> aman: have you tried in synamptic?
[02:32] <Aman> !tkc
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tkc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <Huck> jmhodges: it makes sure that the right driver loads first, so you can specify which soundcard runs at boot... worked for me
[02:32] <Larynx> y0
[02:32] <Skuz`> hello
[02:32] <brendonjt> skuz':hello
[02:33] <jmhodges> Huck, cool, i'll make sure this is all good
[02:33] <jmhodges> Huck, thanks1
[02:33] <Huck> jmhodges: i hope that helps
[02:33] <Huck> sure~!
[02:33] <Skuz`> can anyone help me setup xgl and compiz on my 9800?
[02:33] <longwave> Aman: try "sudo apt-get install tcl-8.4-dev tk-8.4-dev imlib1-dev" to install the tcl/tk and imlib dev packages, they look like they are needed for amsn
[02:33] <Skuz`> x.org module for ati is installed
[02:33] <Jamminpotato> i used the ATI driver Skuz`
[02:33] <Skuz`>  I followed an online tut i found and it didnt work
[02:33] <Jamminpotato> the standard open on on my 9800pro
[02:33] <Skuz`> i've got xgl and compiz installed
[02:33] <Jamminpotato> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:33] <Skuz`> but they wont run
[02:33] <Skuz`> ubuntu
[02:34] <longwave> !xgl
[02:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:34] <HLM> is it possible to install Ubuntu without Firefox?
[02:34] <foxjwill> peteweez: it worked!
[02:34] <Skuz`> HLM just remove firefox when you're done
[02:34] <Jamminpotato> HLM, jsut remove it in synaptic
[02:34] <Skuz`> but why would you want too
[02:34] <brendonjt> longwave:  when  you use synamptic  or apt-get it installs those dependices for you, well that is what i have found
[02:34] <peteweez> foxjwill: AWESOME!
[02:34] <HLM> thanks
[02:34] <longwave> brendonjt: but Aman is trying to compile amsn, so he needs those dev packages
[02:34] <digivore> can anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?
[02:34] <Jamminpotato> Skuz`, maybe hlm wants to install swiftfox isntead?
[02:35] <jjjjjjj> meh... typical linux chat room help.
[02:35] <longwave> brendonjt: apt-get will install dependencies for binary packages, though
[02:35] <angel12> hey guys, i cant connect to my wifi using an atmel card on  afresh install of ubuntu. am i missing something?
[02:35] <dr_willis> I often wonder how trustworty things like swiftfox are.
[02:35] <Skuz`> lol
[02:35] <brendonjt> longwave:  ok that must be where i get confussed
[02:35] <digivore> swiftfox!  thats it!
[02:35] <Jamminpotato> dr_willis, liek personal information or crashing stem trustworthy?
[02:35] <Jamminpotato> digivore, ????????
[02:35] <dr_willis> Jamminpotato,  like slamming the web servers and  causing problems trustworty
[02:36] <digivore> thats the program i was trying to think of
[02:36] <Jamminpotato> how does it slam webserers? dr_willis
[02:36] <longwave> does swiftfox actually make any difference? firefox is fast enough for me anyway!
[02:36] <dr_willis> longwave,  thats also a good question
[02:36] <digivore> no  never mind  thats not it.
[02:36] <Jamminpotato> longwave, firefox was a little slower on linux then i was used to in windows, so i'm using swiftfox now
[02:37] <dr_willis> Jamminpotato,  ive heard of some other firefox tweeks that  aparently open more connections to web servers and do other 'things' that are not exactly according to the  specs. :)
[02:37] <Skuz`> anyone mind helping me w/ a line for fstab for an NTFS drive?
[02:37] <dr_willis> I dont even know how you Test/prove the speeds of the things.
[02:37] <Skuz`> i need the options part
[02:37] <Psykus> Jamminpotato, are you using the firefox that comes with ubuntu? the one with just the globe icon?
[02:37] <dr_willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume     - for all your NTFS needs
[02:37] <pike_> Skuz`: i normally just put defaults,umask=000 in the options line i think
[02:37] <dr_willis> has details on all the options and what ones you may want to use.
[02:37] <digivore> repository installer programs?   any options?
[02:38] <Psykus> that one is always slow for me, I always install the version from mozilla.org
[02:38] <digivore> anyone?
[02:38] <Skuz`> 000?
[02:38] <Skuz`> i dont want to write to the drive
[02:38] <pike_> Skuz`: thats just read access
[02:38] <longwave> Skuz`: i use "ro,umask=0222"
[02:38] <cafuego> Skuz`: You wont, because the driver can't. Just mount it 'ro'.
[02:38] <eliran> Hello
[02:38] <minerale> Please could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?
[02:38] <qatsi> ok, now my xgl is working great...im amazed of how it works :D
[02:38] <Akkard_3> Hi
[02:38] <_wall> Hello
[02:38] <jonkri> hi! i'm sorry that i can't be more specific but this is all i got... when my friend tries to install ubuntu the ubuntu installation logo comes up and then it crashes... i know this must be hard for your to guess but do you have any idea why this might happen?
[02:38] <Abst> This may seem like a silly request, but does anyone have a suggestion for a good game on apt-get?
[02:39] <dr_willis> Abst,  frozen-bubble, slune,
[02:39] <Abst> Okay
[02:39] <Abst> Ill try them now
[02:39] <MERLiiN> sup
[02:39] <dr_willis> Abst,  several tron clones. :P
[02:39] <Abst> The list is lonng
[02:39] <beemonk> ewww
[02:39] <Huck> jonkri: try burning a new disk
[02:39] <Abst> Cool
[02:39] <longwave> Abst: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games ?
[02:39] <beemonk> the fonts for aMSN are yucky
[02:39] <dr_willis> Abst,  depends on the kind of games ya like.
[02:39] <beemonk> where can i get some smooth looking fonts? :P
[02:39] <Abst> I'm looking at packages.
[02:39] <_wall> you tell me
[02:39] <Jamminpotato> Psykus, yea im using the default ubuntu one
[02:39] <eliran> secret
[02:39] <Akkard_3> fun
[02:39] <jonkri> Huck, you don't think it might be hardware related?
[02:39] <MERLiiN> ??
[02:40] <jonkri> Huck, that is, computer component hardware related :P
[02:40] <Huck> jonkri: it's hard to say, but that's where I'd start. I've had problems with disks before
[02:40] <thybo> anyone got a link to install a webcam?
[02:40] <jonkri> Huck, i see. thank you
[02:40] <thybo> easycam2 doesn't work with me
[02:40] <Jamminpotato> Psykus, is it not the best version or somethin
[02:40] <Jamminpotato> g?
[02:40] <Psykus> Jamminpotato, i'd recommend following the tutorial on the ubuntu wiki to install the "new firefox" (back when the one with ubuntu was an old version)
[02:41] <longwave> jonkri: what do you mean the logo comes up? do you get the grub menu at the start? what is the last thing it says before it crashes? what hardware (desktop/laptop, ram size) are you installing on?
[02:41] <Psykus> Jamminpotato, the one you can get from mozilla.org is a lot faster, at least in my experience
[02:41] <Jamminpotato> gotchya
[02:41] <Psykus> plus you get the nifty firefox logo/icon :PO
[02:42] <jonkri> longwave, hehe, i realize now i'm even more pathetic than i thought ... :) i don't know
[02:42] <Psykus> :P
[02:42] <Skuz`> anyone have a step by step instruction page for using xgl/compiz on ati hardware?
[02:42] <Jamminpotato> Psykus, so what is different between the ubuntu one and the mozilla one?
[02:42] <inlanderf> why I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site
[02:42] <Skuz`> the link that was given to me for xgl was nothing more than a synopsis
[02:42] <digivore> is there a specific name for programs like 'adept' and 'synaptic'?
[02:42] <longwave> jonkri: it's pretty hard to help without knowing basic details like that, there are many possible causes and fixes ;)
[02:42] <sethk> Jamminpotato, usually the mozilla one is a bit newer
[02:42] <Psykus> Jamminpotato, i'm not sure exactly, apart from the icon, but it's faster
[02:43] <inlanderf> why I can't i open the ftp folder when I try to go to my ftp site
[02:43] <longwave> Skuz`: did you follow the links in that synopsis? they tell you how to install the individual parts - xgl or aiglx, then compiz
[02:43] <jonkri> longwave, obviously :)
[02:43] <Arrick> permissions,
[02:44] <Sewar> Is there any Glade 3 packages for 6.06?
[02:44] <Masqy> Hi all, I have an ubuntu installation question
[02:44] <Arrick> read, browse
[02:44] <Skuz`> longwave,  i didnt get your link apparently
[02:44] <longwave> !xgl
[02:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:44] <Skuz`> the one i was given just told me what it was
[02:44] <Skuz`> yeah that doesnt help me buddy
[02:44] <Skuz`> the only installation link on there is for nvidia
[02:44] <Skuz`> which does me no good
[02:44] <Skuz`> i've got both installed
[02:44] <Skuz`> the software its self that is
[02:44] <Arrick> inlanderf, permissions, and the browse setting
[02:44] <longwave> #ubuntu-xgl can help better with xgl questions than we can..
[02:44] <Skuz`> okay
[02:45] <inlanderf> explain please
[02:45] <wickers> How can I get OOo to remember my language settings?
[02:45] <wickers> like the language to use when spell checking.
[02:45] <Masqy> I would like to install a new version of an application which exists in ubuntu, but to retain the original one, that is, I actually want 2 versions of the same application installed. What is the simplest way to achieve that?
[02:45] <longwave> wickers: this is a bug in openoffice (someone asked about this just an hour ago!)
[02:45] <wickers> :(
[02:45] <buzzygirl> hello
[02:46] <longwave> wickers: the easy workaround is to open a new document, set the language, save that document, then copy it every time you want to start a new document after that
[02:46] <wickers> Well it is set to english canadian by default because that's what I selected when I installed ubuntu... so clearly it's getting it's settings from somewhere...
[02:46] <brendonjt> hello buzzygirl
[02:46] <D-Man`> I get GStreamer encountered a general resource error when trying to play mp3 file on desktop
[02:46] <longwave> wickers: yes, this is similar to what we found earlier, but neither of us could find any real fix
[02:46] <wickers> Where does ubuntu store installation settings for reference?
[02:46] <D-Man`> been reading various google and other docs till I can't see straight
[02:47] <longwave> wickers: there are several configuration files, it depends on the application that is being configured, but /var/log/installer is a good start
[02:48] <D-Man`> yes:  I've tried adding the various recommended gstreamer plug-ins  any way to get things back to DEFAULT status?
[02:48] <Masqy> Hi all, is there a way to install another version of the same program in ubuntu? (while not running over the older one)
[02:48] <buzzygirl> Hi brendonjt
[02:48] <sagarp> how can i get ndiswrapper to load at startup?
[02:48] <jikuty> do you guys think it's worth it to install Ubuntu to an old AMD 450MHz PC?
[02:48] <Here_comes_me_64> Here I am
[02:48] <jikuty> or will it run like shit?
[02:49] <sethk> jikuty, it will be tolerable
[02:49] <inlanderf> why I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site
[02:49] <sethk> jikuty, probably a good idea to choose a low overhead desktop, possibly fluxbox
[02:49] <jikuty> i see
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> anyone wanna see one of the funniest error messages? http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/Banshee_Error.jpg
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> oops
[02:49] <Bison> how can i run a memtest from the livecd?
[02:49] <jikuty> ill give it a try .. the pc is just collecting dust right now anyways :D
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/Banshee_Error.png everyone
[02:50] <Jamminpotato> 450mhz should be good with xfce too, i got gnome on myne but it wasnt too slow, not too fast either, but yea xubuntu ftw jikuty
[02:50] <longwave> wickers: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/35936 is the openoffice bug in launchpad but there is not much there :(
[02:50] <Skuz`> if i'm getting 260 - 320fps in glxgears on a 9800pro, are the proper drivers installed and working?
[02:50] <longwave> Masqy: probably not easily, what program are you talking about and why do you want two versions at once?
[02:50] <buzzygirl> jikuty: have you looked into damn small linux?
[02:51] <jikuty> nope
[02:51] <buzzygirl> Xubuntu might work on that old puter too
[02:51] <inlanderf> why I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site
[02:51] <jikuty> i just got the idea to install linux on it now :P
[02:51] <longwave> inlanderf: does it work on an ftp program on another computer or on windows?
[02:51] <buzzygirl> Linux can make the most of an old computer
[02:51] <inlanderf> yes
[02:51] <Masqy> longwave: The newest version of VLC, decodes WMV3 format, but it is still buggy regarding subtitles.  I want to watch movies with subtitles, and to be able to watch live TV via 0.8.5 (0.8.4 is the current version)
[02:51] <jikuty> that's what I figured :D
[02:51] <inlanderf> in windows
[02:52] <buzzygirl> Damn Small might work quite well for this!
[02:52] <archaios> use mplayer
[02:52] <Red-Sox> Troubles
[02:52] <buzzygirl> Check into it: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[02:52] <jikuty> alright, ill check it out
[02:52] <hou5ton> I did the first part of the following recommendation, but don't know how to do the second ... install a program called network-manager-gnome, then disable the built-in networking utility that comes with Ubuntu.
[02:52] <buzzygirl> 50 megabytes of penguin power! LOL
[02:52] <inlanderf> I can get to the site and there is a folder on my desktop, but it wont open
[02:52] <jikuty> !
[02:52] <jikuty> 50 mb!!
[02:52] <Masqy> longwave: specifically, when you pause the movie, the subtitles which were displatyed at the same time disappear after a few seconds
[02:52] <Red-Sox> The installer freezes everytime after 'Starting partitioner' on ONE of my boxes, works on the others
[02:52] <jikuty> lol
[02:52] <longwave> Masqy: ah i see. unfortunately i don't know of any easy way around that without compiling one version from source and installing it in a different directory...
[02:53] <buzzygirl> Heh,
[02:53] <hou5ton> How do I disable the built-in networking utility that came with Ubuntu?
[02:53] <buzzygirl> jikuty, have you had other Linux experience?
[02:53] <Alejandr0> Hola a todos...
[02:53] <inlanderf> hola elex
[02:53] <jikuty> wow -- that is amazing
[02:53] <jikuty> at the moment, I'm dualbooted with debian
[02:54] <jikuty> but, I installed it mainly just to fool around.. I don't use it seriously.
[02:54] <Masqy> longwave: is there a way to install it "localy", that is , not to install, just keep the files in my home dir at, say /home/masqy/vlc ?
[02:54] <buzzygirl> Old computers are FUN
[02:54] <brendonjt> jikuty: he could try using the alturnitive install cd  instead of the live version
[02:54] <longwave> !es
[02:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:54] <buzzygirl> you can mess around with them and not worry too much about breaking them
[02:54] <jikuty> yeah, that's what I'm intending
[02:54] <buzzygirl> I'm using a throwaway computer from work...
[02:54] <jmhodges> ok, that didnt do it
[02:54] <jikuty> im gonna first install Ubuntu, and check what the performance is like
[02:54] <jmhodges> i've even tossed /dev/random at my only /dev/dsp
[02:54] <Here_comes_me_64> :P
[02:54] <minerale> Please could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?
[02:54] <jmhodges> nothing comes out :-/
[02:54] <jikuty> otherwise, I'm going to go into DSL, or Xubuntu
[02:54] <buzzygirl> ... they just gave it to me. It's got a 700 MHz Celeron processor with 256 mb of memory
[02:55] <jmhodges> and it works in my windows install
[02:55] <jikuty> you can do a lot with 700MHz
[02:55] <inlanderf>  I can get to the ftp site and there is a folder on my desktop, but it wont open
[02:55] <sethk> buzzygirl, if you are in the u.s. you'll have to report it as income
[02:55] <peteweez> minerale: I don't know a lot about that, but there are a lot of good guides...look it up on google.
[02:55] <sethk> buzzygirl, at least theoretically  :)
[02:55] <buzzygirl> Ubuntu requires 256 MB of memory to install via the Live CD... I could not get it to work when this computer had only 128 MB.
[02:55] <buzzygirl> sethk: heheh! I wish I had 700 million of something
[02:56] <longwave> Masqy: the problem is there are so many files in a vlc install that i don't think it would work as simply as that, i'm sure it expects certain files to be in fixed directories that you won't be able to change without recompiling
[02:56] <peteweez> minerale, also check #tapthru and #debian
[02:56] <longwave> Masqy: how are you installing the newer version anyway? i'm assuming it isn't in the repository yet
[02:56] <Masqy> longwave: there is an ubuntu package at the VLC main site.
[02:56] <buzzygirl> Xubuntu works better on systems with smaller hardware capabilities
[02:56] <jikuty> alright- I think ill give that a try
[02:56] <jikuty> 128mb ram , 1.4 gb .. not bad
[02:57] <buzzygirl> Cool, jikuty, I wish you luck!
[02:57] <jikuty> thanks :)
[02:57] <jikuty> im gonna download it now
[02:57] <Kragnerac> :)
[02:57] <Masqy> Iongwave: I've installed it, and then uninstalled it again, ( I prefer my subtitles than some TV)
[02:57] <Here_comes_me_64> Hi everyone
[02:57] <buzzygirl> jikuty: those specs are probably fine for Xubuntu
[02:57] <buzzygirl> go fer it heheh!
[02:57] <jolt> Anyone ever have issues with printing PDF's.. first page comes out fine, rest just confuse the heck out of the printer
[02:57] <Masqy> longwave: yes, it is still considered "unstable" but the files I installed are from May 2006.
[02:58] <Here_comes_me_64> I have a question
[02:58] <jmhodges> Huck, no go :-/
[02:58] <jikuty> buzzygirl: great :D
[02:58] <Masqy> longwave: (the 0.8.5)
[02:58] <jikuty> in the meantime, I'm going to set up this dusty pc
[02:58] <soundgate> what is ncurses for?
[02:58] <jikuty> no need to format in advance, correct?
[02:58] <jikuty> the software should just handle that for me?
[02:58] <longwave> Masqy: i can't see an easy way round this, though there may be some advanced dpkg/apt-get magic you can do that will help here
[02:58] <Here_comes_me_64> Is there anyway to get virtual Video Memory?
[02:58] <dr_willis> ncurses is for console-time-interface-design and neat tricks. :P
[02:58] <jolt> Also. Has anyone sucessfully run the live installer on the current Edgy build without it crashing?
[02:58] <dr_willis> console type interface/tricks. :P  Like 'mc' uses.
[02:59] <buzzygirl> no, if you want to install Ubuntu (Xubuntu) as the sole OS, it'll ask you in advance
[02:59] <soundgate> is ncurses-5.5 the latest version?
[02:59] <Masqy> if I compile, which file will it run when I simply type 'vlc a.avi' ?
[02:59] <buzzygirl> BRB
[02:59] <longwave> Masqy: by default it would run the version you installed from a package; when compiling you would have to set a flag to install the new version in another directory. then you would run it with "/path/to/new/vlc a.avi"
[03:00] <gotama> Hi There! Has anyone succeeded in installing the scanner Epson Perfection 1270?
[03:00] <mindjuju> so what do i do if I try to install courier-authmysql and I see that i've spelled it right in packages.ubuntu.com but when i type sudo apt-get install courier-authmysql  it says it can't find the package?
[03:00] <Jamminpotato> jikuty, you might want to try xubuntu even if ubuntu works fine...i use XFCE because i like it more then GNOME thus i use xubuntu not ubuntu, even though  i could run eitehr
[03:00] <Masqy> how do I set the install dir for a compiled one?
[03:00] <silverwizard> Hey, question Re SIP softphone clients especially SJphone, anyone know of an easy install for SJphone (alien seems to have failed me) or a better SIP client?
[03:00] <Masqy> longwave:
[03:00] <buzzygirl> back
[03:00] <UPC> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry about not responding, was out meeting apartment neighbors
[03:00] <UPC> anything I try to install messes up
[03:01] <longwave> Masqy: instead of just ./configure, i think you need "./configure --prefix=/path/to/install" - but vlc is quite complex, you may have to read the documentation
[03:01] <jmhodges> im going crazy trying to figure out why my sound doesnt work in ubuntu
[03:01] <HeathenDan> me too, lol
[03:01] <jolt> Heh i should go get the RX320 command line app from Debian Repositories if i can figure out why PDF's tend to spaz the printer
[03:02] <Masqy> longwave: well, it might be a good practice for me, I've already compiled amule before drapper
[03:02] <jmhodges> for some reason, its saying i have a CIrrus Logic card
[03:02] <jmhodges> but i dont1
[03:02] <jmhodges> i even disabled my AC97 card on my mobo
[03:02] <soundgate> what is DESTDIR?
[03:02] <jmhodges> soundgate, destination directory
[03:02] <Masqy> longwave: which path is accepted as 'default' for your own compilations?
[03:02] <jmhodges> soundgate, where you want stuff to go
[03:02] <jolt> It might be confusing the AC97 on your motherboard even if its disabled jm
[03:02] <Masqy> and besides, I think I'll have to compile and install both wxvlc, vlc-plugin-alsa and vlc at the same time, or so.
[03:03] <jmhodges> jolt, well, before i disabled it, it had the mobo card as another snd card1
[03:03] <jmhodges> so there were three on the list!
[03:03] <jolt> *eyeroll*.
[03:03] <longwave> Masqy: generally things you compile yourself go in /usr/local, but this may be in your path and may get confused with the other version of vlc (which will have a prefix of /usr)
[03:03] <jmhodges> jolt, cha
[03:03] <Masqy> general question: how do I check if a specifice package is installed in my system ?
[03:03] <longwave> Masqy: dpkg -l packagename
[03:04] <mindjuju> what do i do if I try to install courier-authmysql and I see that i've spelled it right in packages.ubuntu.com but when i type sudo apt-get install courier-authmysql  it says it can't find the package?
[03:04] <longwave> !info courier-authmysql
[03:04] <ubotu> courier-authmysql: Courier Mail Server - MySQL authentication. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.47-13ubuntu5.1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 188 kB
[03:04] <longwave> mindjuju: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[03:05] <soundgate> I get this message "make: ***No rule specified and no makefile found" when I typed this "make DESTDIR=/usr/local". any idea?
[03:05] <mindjuju> i don't, but just pulled up an FAQ on enabling other repository
[03:05] <silverwizard> anyone know of a good SIP phone available as a Debian Package?
[03:05] <dubiago> anyone know what the default password for root is? i realized when i installed from the Live CD that it never asked me to set a root password
[03:05] <longwave> soundgate: presumably there is no Makefile in the current directory
[03:05] <jolt> Pre Ubuntu, i had problems myself with Knoppix keeping thinking my AV-710 was a Ice1616 and not a 1624
[03:05] <longwave> dubiago: there is no password for root, you should use sudo instead
[03:05] <W_McL> silverwizard: what's about ekiga? it's installed by default
[03:05] <jolt> Actually now i look at it OSS tried to instal the 1616 driver
[03:06] <silverwizard> It seems to only hit one proxy
[03:06] <Skuz`> anyone know of a repository that has beep media player on it?
[03:06] <Skuz`> or if not, xmms?
[03:06] <UPC> anyone have ideas on how to fix installation problems?
[03:06] <silverwizard> I want to use an account that already exists, is there a way for it to go through a prexisting one?
[03:06] <soundgate> but there's a file named Makefile.in in it
[03:06] <jrib> !info beep-media-player
[03:06] <ubotu> beep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 3592 kB
[03:06] <silverwizard> Skuz, universe has it
[03:06] <Masqy> and how can I check if a certain library is installed i.e. libdvbpsi ?
[03:06] <jrib> Skuz`: universe has bmp
[03:06] <jrib> !universe > Skuz`
[03:06] <Skuz`> oh i was searching for pkg bmp
[03:07] <silverwizard> Applications>Add/Remove should have both under Sound and Video
[03:07] <Skuz`> not beep-media-player
[03:07] <jolt> have you tried adduser from the command line silverwizard?
[03:07] <longwave> Masqy: the same way, libraries are installed as packages
[03:07] <Tennessee> Is anyone here using Edgy?
[03:07] <jrib> Skuz`: yeah, that is why.  xmms is in main by the way
[03:07] <jrib> !edgy
[03:07] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:07] <jolt> it will *see* the previous user directory
[03:07] <longwave> Masqy: you can also use "whereis libdvbpsi" for example
[03:07] <silverwizard> No, I will check it out (new to SIP et all)
[03:07] <Skuz`> i couldnt find it lol
[03:07] <Skuz`> or apt couldnt
[03:07] <Tennessee> I'm seriously considering upgrading, but would prefer not to break my desktop. But I would like some of the new packages.
[03:07] <Tennessee> I'm on dapper now.
[03:08] <jrib> Tennessee: #ubuntu+1 can help you better probably
[03:08] <soundgate> longwave: but there's a Makefile.in in my current directory
[03:08] <longwave> Tennessee: there is always the possibility an edgy install will break after any upgrade
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Tennessee:  one word... backup...
[03:08] <jolt> Silver. Nix what i said...
[03:08] <longwave> soundgate: no, Makefiles are just called Makefile. have you run ./configure yet? that usually creates a Makefile for you
[03:08] <sethk> soundgate, you need to do ./configure first, that will create your makefile
[03:08] <Skuz`> awsome
[03:08] <jolt> thought you were trying to create an account on the system for a user that already existed
[03:08] <Skuz`> is bmp-mp3 availible?
[03:08] <soundgate> oh
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[03:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:09] <pianoboy3333> What does the -j2 tag on make do? Is it good for a hyperthreaded computer/
[03:09] <pianoboy3333> ?
[03:09] <DarkTower> Is dapper fully stable for use or are people having problems?
[03:09] <hawkaloogie> DarkTower, no problems as of yet for me
[03:09] <Masqy> "Please note that the installation (make install command) is not mandatory. You can execute VLC from where you compiled it.", well, it seems it is not so dangerous to at least try to compile it
[03:09] <sethk> pianoboy3333, depends whether there is any discoverable parallelism
[03:09] <brendonjt> darktower:  it is fully stable haven't had any problems here
[03:09] <sethk> pianoboy3333, can't hurt
[03:10] <Tennessee> DarkTower: It's pretty good. Just the usual things that crop up with every stable release on the planet from time to time.
[03:10] <Skuz`> one last noob question guys, how do i kill x? do i just go into init 3 ?
[03:10] <sethk> pianoboy3333, but use a higher number than 2
[03:10] <pianoboy3333> sethk: in gnome-system-monitor it shows 2 cpus
[03:10] <Skuz`> or is there an easier way
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkTower: dapper is stable
[03:10] <soundgate> so after ./configure I could now type "make DESTDIR=/usr/local"?
[03:10] <Skuz`> i dont want to loose whats open basically
[03:10] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: I normally use number of cpus times 2
[03:10] <sethk> Skuz`, ubuntu's levels are different.  X is on for levels 2 and above
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkTower: Most injuries are self inflicted.. :)
[03:10] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: So -j 4 on a box with two CPUs.
[03:10] <jmhodges> somebody shoot me
[03:10] <Skuz`> sethk,  oh okay
[03:10] <sethk> pianoboy3333, that doesn't imply that you shouldn't run more than two processes
[03:10] <DarkTower> Thanks all, i think i will upgrade then.
[03:10] <pianoboy3333> cafuego: well, my box is hyperthreaded though
[03:10] <Skuz`> sethk, you know a way i can kill x without rebooting?
[03:10] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: Try and see.
[03:10] <sethk> Skuz`, sure, init 1
[03:10] <pianoboy3333> won't that like, make my box go splody?
[03:10] <Skuz`> that will set single user mode yes?
[03:11] <sethk> Skuz`, or, you can edit /etc/inittab
[03:11] <Skuz`> which means everything i have open closes
[03:11] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: Nope
[03:11] <sethk> Skuz`, yes, init 1 is single user mode.
[03:11] <Skuz`> i should probobly reboot so i dont break everything
[03:11] <ubuntu> could someone please help me mount my win xp drive. i'm using ubuntu live cd
[03:11] <Skuz`> brb
[03:11] <sethk> Skuz`, to avoid that, you need to edit /etc/inittab and then perform a telinit command
[03:11] <cafuego> Rebooting is for windows users.
[03:11] <jmhodges> ok
[03:11] <mindjuju> longwave, that was the prob.  thx for the help
[03:11] <sethk> skuz`which isn't hard to do, and isn't hard to revert, but if you don't mind rebooting, and it's easier for you ...
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !mount
[03:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:11] <jmhodges> does anyone know why /dev/dsp would show up, but not even cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp would make noise?
[03:11] <cafuego> sethk: he's gone
[03:12] <brendonjt> cafuego: i agree with you there  every 5 min isn't it lol
[03:12] <sethk> cafuego, I give my best advise to people who are gone  :)
[03:12] <soundgate> does anyone here uses wine?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[03:12] <cafuego> sethk: These kids today get tooe xcited and never let you finish your advice, so they mess up.
[03:12] <sethk> cafuego, yes, I've noticed  :)
[03:12] <brianprogrammer> I have a wireless card that works out of the box with ubuntu and I installed Gnome-Network-Manager (I was told it was better than the network manager that comes with ubuntu) but the network manager doesn't seem to recognize my device is even there (i am still connected through the other network manager).
[03:12] <jmhodges> hell, shouldnt it be /dev/dsp0 etc?
[03:13] <sethk> depends on the udev configuration
[03:13] <jmhodges> sethk, hmm.. i have one thats probably from the dapper beta period
[03:13] <sethk> jmhodges, I would expect /dev/dsp0 to be a link to /dev/dsp, anyway
[03:13] <jmhodges> ok
[03:13] <jmhodges> well, fsck
[03:13] <Masqy> on some sites I see two ubuntu packages, which differ on the last character, i.e.  vlc_0.8.5.final.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb and  vlc_0.8.5.final.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb. What are supposed to be the differences ?
[03:14] <cafuego> Masqy: The ubuntu2 has been repackaged to address an issue.
[03:14] <jmhodges> i know its just some stupid config some where
[03:15] <Masqy> ok, thanks for the help...
[03:16] <Spencer> hey guys where can i download a file in apt-get from a windows box?
[03:16] <sethk> Spencer, check the URL's for the repositories
[03:16] <Spencer> sethk, where would it be then?
[03:16] <sethk> Spencer, the repositories?
[03:16] <pluto> Who can help me with setting my refresh rate?
[03:16] <amonkey> my system did one of those every 30 mounts hd scans and it errored out. i ran fsck -pv /dev/sda and it gave me errors about the magic number in the super-block. what do i do?
[03:16] <eZ> Hi all !! :-D
[03:17] <jmhodges> alsright
[03:17] <sethk> Spencer, start at us.archive.ubuntu.com, if you are in the us
[03:17] <hawkaloogie> someone help amonkey, i'm having the same problem
[03:17] <longwave> amonkey: you should not run fsck on /dev/sda, it should be /dev/sda1 or whatever partition number the filesystem is on
[03:17] <hawkaloogie> i had to disable the hard drive for now
[03:17] <DarkTower> Can I upgrade to dapper using the Software Update manager and just click upgrade? or is that a bad way to do it?
[03:17] <amonkey> longwave, that makes sense
[03:17] <hawkaloogie> longwave, the partitions aren't showing up
[03:17] <sethk> amonkey, what file system?
[03:17] <eZ> i gotta stupid problem :-D but...i have no idea how to fix it :-( ..why all my icon under menus are gone ?? ..under Application or System...there's only text...as it looks Ubuntu can't find them :-(
[03:18] <amonkey> sethk, ext3,but imay have been providing the wrong device, hang on
[03:18] <sethk> amonkey, ok
[03:18] <brendonjt> pluto: system->pref->screen res
[03:18] <amonkey> sethk, looks to be working with correct device, my fault
[03:18] <amonkey> longwave, that was it, thanks
[03:18] <hawkaloogie> bah!
[03:18] <sethk> amonkey, ok
[03:19] <soundgate> im trying to install ncurses. I got an error that the dir /ncurses5.5/objects/cursesf.o does not exist. how the heck can I resolve that?
[03:19] <sethk> hawkaloogie, is yours' the wrong device also?  :)
[03:19] <amonkey> longwave, i did /dev/sda1 but it's just hanging there.'
[03:19] <amonkey> longwave, i said verbose, shouldn't i be getting some feedback?
[03:19] <ubuntu> !mount
[03:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:19] <sethk> soundgate, you are installing it with apt-get?
[03:19] <pluto> brendonjt: I did this, but the refresh rate only goes to 75 and I want to set it at 85 (like I had under windows)
[03:19] <hawkaloogie> sethk, no, there are no partitions showing up on /dev/hdd
[03:19] <eZ> can anyone help me please.. :( ?
[03:19] <jmhodges> does Dapper use OSS or ALSA by deaflut? its ALSA, right?
[03:19] <Tennessee> Is there a live CD for edgy at the moment?
[03:19] <sethk> hawkaloogie, but /dev/hdd exists?
[03:19] <Skuz`> !ntfs
[03:19] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:19] <hawkaloogie> sethk, yes
[03:20] <soundgate> sethk no I did wget.
[03:20] <jolt> Tenn. i got the daily build for Edgy and the Live CD installer bombs
[03:20] <brendonjt> pluto: i found that out as well
[03:20] <sethk> soundgate, you could create the directory, but I doubt that's your only issue
[03:20] <jolt> Right near the end with a python error
[03:20] <cabuloso> wich one is better, easyubuntu or automatix ?
[03:20] <hawkaloogie> sethk, gparted showing all unallocated, the partition table probably got whacked meaning i probably lost all data...
[03:20] <sethk> hawkaloogie, fdisk -l /dev/hdd shows what?
[03:21] <longwave> amonkey: fsck shouldn't hang, no. run "dmesg" in another terminal, is there any output about sda at the bottom?
[03:21] <sethk> hawkaloogie, well, remember, losing the partition table doesn't actually erase anything
[03:21] <sethk> hawkaloogie, if can be reconstructed, and if nothing else happened, all the data is still there.
[03:21] <hawkaloogie> sethk, cannot open /dev/hdd
[03:21] <Tennessee> jolt: Bummer. Just for my info, where did you get it from? I can't find anything downloadable and don't feel like risking my install at the moment...
[03:21] <sethk> hawkaloogie, try it with sudo   sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd
[03:21] <jolt> Tenn: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> cabuloso: Neither are good
[03:21] <hawkaloogie> sethk, w/ sudo: doesn't contain a valid partition table
[03:22] <Tennessee> jolt: Thanks! I'll try it just in case. If it flies, I want the new packages.
[03:22] <amonkey> longwave, it apparently finished, no messages like i was expecting. wanted me to run it without -p, it's fixing inodes with corrupted orphans or something
[03:22] <longwave> Tennessee, jolt: for the record i installed dapper in a vmware machine the other day then dist-upgraded to edgy and it seems to be working okay
[03:22] <hawkaloogie> sethk, if i knew exactly what partitions were on the disk, can i make the partition table again?
[03:22] <sethk> hawkaloogie, yes
[03:22] <jolt> I shoulda done it in a VM
[03:22] <hawkaloogie> sethk, parted would work for this?
[03:22] <sethk> hawkaloogie, might, but fdisk is a lot easier
[03:22] <Tennessee> longwave: With nvidia?
[03:22] <hawkaloogie> sethk, okay, thanks
[03:22] <sethk> hawkaloogie, do you know the partition layout?
[03:23] <longwave> Tennessee: no i haven't played with video card drivers yet
[03:23] <hawkaloogie> sethk, it was all one big ext3 partition
[03:23] <Skuz`> hmm
[03:23] <sethk> hawkaloogie, oh, that's trivial
[03:23] <Skuz`> I dont know what hdx my ntfs drive is
[03:23] <sethk> hawkaloogie, just do   sudo fdisk /dev/hdd
[03:23] <eZ> please..if someone can help me...query me..
[03:23] <longwave> Tennessee: this was just for testing in vmware to see if it would work :)
[03:23] <Skuz`> is there anyway to find out?
[03:23] <sethk> hawkaloogie, then, at the menu, create a partition, and take the default starting and stopping sectors
[03:23] <cabuloso> Jack_Sparrow: what do you suggest ?
[03:23] <sethk> hawkaloogie, select primary, partition 1
[03:24] <corndog_> I'm having full system freezes when burning CD's through k3d and gnomebaker. I am able to burn via nautilus... I've followed this guide but I'm still having issues http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217472&highlight=cd+burner+driver
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> cabuloso: what are you trying to do?
[03:24] <sethk> hawkaloogie, if it asks for the type, linux which is I believe hex 82
[03:24] <Tennessee> longwave: no worries. I'd just go for it, but if I root my system, I won't be too popular here at work while I'm taking downtime to fix it.
[03:24] <hawkaloogie> sethk, 82 is swap, 83 is linux
[03:24] <cabuloso> Jack_Sparrow: did a fresh install and need multimedia support and stuff...
[03:25] <sethk> hawkaloogie, ok, I always get those backwards, but the menu will tell you
[03:25] <hawkaloogie> sethk, but 85 is "linux extended" huh?
[03:25] <Eroick> Hey, has anyone used Fruity Loops or a simular program (synth)? Is there a simular program for Linux that lets you lay down drum lines and melodies?
[03:25] <sethk> hawkaloogie, not what you want
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> cabuloso: drop in the live cd and click on install
[03:25] <sethk> hawkaloogie, unlikely that it is extended, although some brain dead automatic partitioners do that
[03:25] <Skuz`> how can i figure out what /dev one of my unmounted hard drives is?
[03:25] <hawkaloogie> sethk, okay, so it's that definition of "extended"
[03:26] <hawkaloogie> sethk, didn't ask for a partition type, does it use 83 by default?
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> cabuloso: THe bot has breat info on mp3 and other restricted formats
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[03:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:26] <sethk> hawkaloogie, because of an absurd decision by IBM and microsoft many years ago, there is only space for four real (primary) partitions
[03:26] <hawkaloogie> sethk, yeah, that's the extended thing
[03:26] <sethk> hawkaloogie, yes, the default type should be linux.  do p  (print) to display the partition table and make sure it says 83
[03:26] <sethk> hawkaloogie, right, to get more than four, you create on "extended" partition, and create logical partitions within it
[03:27] <hawkaloogie> sethk, okay, then "w" for write
[03:27] <sethk> hawkaloogie, that's foolish if you have four or fewer partitions
[03:27] <sethk> hawkaloogie, right
[03:27] <sethk> hawkaloogie, if it doesn't look right, we can create an extended partition, and then a logical partition for the entire drive, but I think primary is more likely so try that first
[03:27] <sethk> hawkaloogie, you'll want to do a _read only_ fsck after saving the partition table.
[03:27] <amonkey> longwave, fsck -yv /dev/sda1 cleared it all up, thanks
[03:27] <sethk> hawkaloogie, don't try to mount it, as that writes
[03:28] <hawkaloogie> sethk, okay, was wondering why it still shows no partitions
[03:28] <sethk> hawkaloogie, it doesn't, I hope.  :)
[03:28] <jmhodges> woot!
[03:28] <sethk> hawkaloogie, you mean you didn't realize you had to display again, I assume
[03:28] <jmhodges> i just had to check the IEC* stuff towards the end of my alsa thing
[03:29] <hawkaloogie> sethk, no, i tried ls -l /dev/hdd* and only showed the device, no partitions
[03:29] <brianprogrammer> Hi
[03:29] <sethk> hawkaloogie, after doing the w in fdisk?
[03:29] <Eroick> so is there a program that lets you do technoish synth?
[03:29] <hawkaloogie> sethk, yes
[03:29] <brianprogrammer> I am wondering how I get the signal strength to properly show up with the network monitor applet
[03:29] <sethk> hawkaloogie, that's a very bad sign
[03:29] <sethk> hawkaloogie, something is seriously wrong there
[03:29] <longwave> brianprogrammer: some network drivers do not yet support signal strength readings, so it may not be possible
[03:30] <hawkaloogie> sethk, as i surmised, yay maxtor
[03:30] <sethk> hawkaloogie, is this an old drive?
[03:30] <amonkey> i'm at the Disks Manager in gnome, but when i goto the partitions tab on my new drive, the 'create' button is greyed out. what do i do?
[03:30] <brianprogrammer> longwave, brian@DFK1811:~$ iwconfig
[03:30] <brianprogrammer> lo        no wireless extensions.
[03:30] <brianprogrammer> wlan0     IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"T7r56bY2pGF9X"  Nickname:"okuwlan"
[03:30] <brianprogrammer>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: 00:06:25:97:B9:44
[03:30] <brianprogrammer>           Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
[03:30] <brianprogrammer>           Retry limit:8   RTS thr=1536 B   Fragment thr=1536 B
[03:30] <brianprogrammer>           Power Management:off
[03:30] <brianprogrammer>           Link Quality=0/0  Signal level=105/255  Noise level=0/0
[03:30] <brianprogrammer>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[03:30] <brianprogrammer>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[03:30] <longwave> !paste
[03:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:30] <brianprogrammer> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[03:30] <brianprogrammer> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[03:30] <aaron> I'm having an issue with my Dapper router/server machine.  It provides DNS and DHCP via dnsmasq, and NAT via Guidedog.  When any of the machines on the internal network run Bittorrent, somewhere within 5 minutes to 1 hour the machine will lock hard, refusing to come out of screensaver.  The ram checks good in memtest...anyone have experience with this issue?
[03:30] <hawkaloogie> sethk, younger than the WD 40gig and Maxtor 120 gig
[03:30] <brianprogrammer> oops sorry about that
[03:30] <hawkaloogie> sethk, (and the WD 40 gig has a broken pin...)
[03:31] <sethk> hawkaloogie, try dumping out the SMART data for the drive, sounds like a hardware issue
[03:31] <brianprogrammer> if i run iwconfig
[03:31] <brianprogrammer> i get a signal strength reported
[03:31] <brianprogrammer> Signal level=105/255
[03:31] <longwave> brianprogrammer: "link quality" is the signal strength that the network applet displays, that is the strength reading
[03:31] <sethk> hawkaloogie, you could exchange some cables to make sure it isn't an IDE interface issue.
[03:31] <sethk> hawkaloogie, that's unlikely, but possible
[03:31] <brianprogrammer> is there any way to get it to display the one that says "signal level" ?
[03:31] <hawkaloogie> sethk, unlikely, the slave is still working fine
[03:31] <pluto>  Can anyone recommend a good book  to help.  I'd like to learn more about what can be done from the command line and shells.
[03:32] <sethk> hawkaloogie, forget that, then
[03:32] <hawkaloogie> sethk, i think i'll just give up on it
[03:32] <NullVector> anyone know how i can change teh font color of my task bars/panels?
[03:32] <sethk> hawkaloogie, do check that if it's an EIDE cable, both drives are jumpered for cable select
[03:32] <Kragnerac> Hello, Is there anyway to get virtual Video Memory?
[03:32] <brianprogrammer> Because my adapter doesn't report the link quality, however it reports the values to signal level
[03:32] <hawkaloogie> sethk, if that was bad it would show up in bios and the device wouldn't be anywhere
[03:32] <sethk> Kragnerac, there are a very few graphics adapters that can do it.
[03:32] <longwave> brianprogrammer: not that i know of, if there is nothing in the applet properties then i doubt it
[03:32] <warbuscommando> pluto, I found "Linux In a Nutshell" to be rather helpful, but it's more of a reference than a walkthrough
[03:32] <Meez> yo, having problems playing flac files in quod libet, trying to install gstreamer-flac, but get a "E: Package gstreamer-flac has no installation candidate", oh, and I'm on dapper, any ideas?
[03:32] <angel12> do atmel cards need the firmware in dapper?
[03:32] <sethk> hawkaloogie, not necessarily.  I've seen cases where the result was similar to what you are describing
[03:33] <Masqy> has someone here copiled VLC recently? Should I really compile&install ~15 other packages before I can compile VLC?
[03:33] <nalioth> brianprogrammer: please read the /topic when you enter a channel on IRC.  It's usually the first thing you see upon entering a channel.
[03:33] <hawkaloogie> sethk, weird. would it spontaneously manifest after an fsck?
[03:33] <sethk> hawkaloogie, not that part, the part of writing the partition table and then not seeing it.  If the drive used to work, I'd say you are correct.
[03:33] <NullVector> Masqy - VLC is in the add remove programs
[03:34] <longwave> Masqy: you can probably install the -dev packages for those unless they are specific vlc 0.8.5 versions
[03:34] <pluto> warbuscommand: Thanks.
[03:34] <hawkaloogie> sethk, final question: i've heard seagate is the most reliable drives on the market, any opin?
[03:34] <sethk> hawkaloogie, my experience is that all the vendors have bad runs occasionally.
[03:34] <Masqy> NullVector: thanks,I know : )
[03:34] <longwave> hawkaloogie: that's a loaded question, there is no one bad manufacturer :)
[03:35] <hawkaloogie> sure there is, maxtor
[03:35] <sethk> hawkaloogie, I've not personally had problems with seagate, and I have with maxtor and wd, but my sample size is too small to mean anything
[03:35] <Masqy> longwave: they say that only the official ones on their site are supported, but I'll try to install whatever I can with the apt-get
[03:35] <longwave> hawkaloogie: i have two dead seagate drives and two working maxtor ones, so that's not my experience ;)
[03:35] <hawkaloogie> take a larger sample size and i've seen more people have problems with maxtor than any other brand, followed by WD, followed by seagate
[03:35] <mhenning8> Can anyone help me with getting wireless to work on my laptop with UBUNTU?
[03:35] <angel12> mhenning8, what wireless chip do you have?
[03:36] <hawkaloogie> longwave, c'est la vie and caveat emptor i guess, but i've got an ancient wd drive that's my main workhorse still going strong, perhaps they've earned my respect
[03:36] <hawkaloogie> thanks again all
[03:36] <mhenning8> Dell wireless 1350 it's a dell inspiron 600m
[03:36] <sethk> hawkaloogie, wd has had some awful runs
[03:36] <angel12> mhenning8, its a broadcom 43xx chip
[03:37] <Harksaw> So everything I've read says that to take advantage of both my cores on my Pentium D for folding@home, I need to install the folding@home client twice, in two different directories. When i try to do this, it says it
[03:37] <Harksaw> it's already installed and wont install again. Ideas?
[03:37] <angel12> mhenning8, there are a few decent guides on the forums, i havent set one up in a long time, not since the drivers were cracked.
[03:38] <longwave> angel12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:38] <jikuty> alrighty-- xubuntu is being installed on that old pc
[03:38] <goldenflaw> hello, anyone have the following problem? 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001c (rev 01) from lspci
[03:38] <longwave> angel12: that guide (or an earlier version of it) worked well for my bcm43xx chip
[03:38] <angel12> longwave, not me, mhenning8
[03:38] <Supremacy> anyone use widgets in here?
[03:38] <amonkey> i just formated a 460gb partition with xfs in about 2 seconds. is this normal? i expected it to take much much longer.
[03:38] <sethk> goldenflaw, that's not a problem
[03:38] <damn_hot> hello room, ive got a problem with ubuntu, my friend gave me this ubuntu CD v6.06 LTS and after i setup and install ubuntu on a seperate partition, the installion finishes and restart the system, after it boots, i choose ubunto from the boot options and when ubuntu came, it asks me for username & pass, but when i enter the user name and pass during ubuntu setup it says, username/password mismatch ... what is wrong with this ?
[03:38] <longwave> oh, sorry :)
[03:38] <longwave> mhenning8: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:38] <goldenflaw> seth: what is it?
[03:39] <goldenflaw> sethk: my wireless doesn't work anyhow I believe it has something to do with that?
[03:39] <sethk> goldenflaw, a normal lspci output line
[03:39] <sethk> goldenflaw, no, nothing at all to do with that
[03:39] <mhenning8> Wow, that looks pretty helpfull longwave, surprised I did not stumble into that earlier today :)
[03:39] <sethk> goldenflaw, all that means is that it looked up the vendor and device ids and didn't find them in it's database
[03:39] <mhenning8> I will beat on it with this, and Ill check back if I still have problems
[03:39] <sethk> goldenflaw, which happens for lots of newer hardware
[03:39] <goldenflaw> sethk: ahh, I see
[03:39] <longwave> mhenning8: it worked well for me; you probably want the "new broadcom driver" route rather than ndiswrapper
[03:40] <goldenflaw> sethk: I have a MacBook, I can receive packets from wireless source, but can't, for some reason, send packets
[03:40] <longwave> mhenning8: and yes, feel free to come back and ask if you get stuck with it :)
[03:40] <goldenflaw> sethk: Any idea?
[03:40] <sethk> goldenflaw, encryption key mismatch, perhaps?
[03:41] <goldenflaw> sethk: what does that mean? :P
[03:41] <goldenflaw> sethk: rather, how do I fix that?
[03:41] <inlanderf> anyone experience with deploying os commerce
[03:41] <longwave> damn_hot: are you 100% sure you're typing the username and password you set? what was the username? were there any "special characters" (other than numbers or english letters) in the password?
[03:41] <sethk> goldenflaw, what do you mean exactly by the statement that you can receive but not send?
[03:41] <angel12> does anyone here use an atmel card with dapper?
[03:42] <Masqy> but isn't there a way to install another 'installation tree' program, to which it shall be possible to install any package without affecting your system?
[03:42] <damn_hot> longwave: on my left screen there is * Options and in the right screen there is server // Wed, Aug 30 time
[03:42] <damn_hot> i am 100 % the username and my password is correct
[03:42] <sethk> Masqy, you can have two installs on the same box.  You can have two root file systems, which is what you mean I think
[03:42] <sethk> Masqy, and you can use chroot to select one, and updates will not impact the other
[03:42] <goldenflaw> sethk: when I check the "connection property", there's Activity that describes the received and sent packets, only the received packets number increases, the sent packets remains null
[03:42] <longwave> Masqy: you could read up about "chroot jails"
[03:43] <sethk> goldenflaw, that can be because of a key mismatch.  You'll receive, because you are not asking for a key, but the access point won't ack you, because the key doesn't match.
[03:43] <Masqy> sethk, longwave: why jails?
[03:43] <goldenflaw> sethk: how do I proceed do fix a key mismatch?
[03:43] <sethk> Masqy, the name "jail" is intended to convey to you that changes in one part can't "escape" to the other part
[03:43] <inlanderf> anyone experience with deploying os commerce
[03:44] <goldenflaw> to*
[03:44] <Supremacy> anyone use widgets in here?
[03:44] <sethk> goldenflaw, set the key.  :)  People here can tell you how.
[03:44] <goldenflaw> sethk: thanks :P
[03:44] <damn_hot> its my first time running Ubuntu and i cant login from the 1st boot :( ... i think ubuntu is not meant for me :p
[03:45] <goldenflaw> How may I fix a key mismatch (wireless)?
[03:45] <brianprogrammer> Hi, how can I get the source for the gnome network monitor applet?
[03:45] <sethk> goldenflaw, ask the more generic question, "how do I set my key"
[03:45] <damn_hot> oh! longwave it says "The system administrator is not allowed to login from this screen."
[03:46] <angel12> well, i keep trying to get an ip on my atmel wifi card and i cant get one.
[03:46] <goldenflaw> How do I set my key?
[03:47] <damn_hot> hello?
[03:47] <brendonjt> hello
[03:47] <TheGame> hello
[03:47] <Huck> hello
[03:47] <hawkaloogie> goodbye
[03:47] <longwave> brianprogrammer: "apt-get source gnome-netstatus-applet"
[03:47] <TheGame> Hey!
[03:47] <goldenflaw> May anyone help me set my key?
[03:48] <brianprogrammer> and then what would I do to modify view/modify the source?
[03:48] <brianprogrammer> where would it be located?
[03:48] <Supremacy> i guess not
[03:48] <TheGame> goldenflaw: what key
[03:48] <goldenflaw> TheGame: wireless key i believe
[03:48] <zxc> I have a FAT32 Partition..where would it be in Ubuntu?
[03:48] <TheGame> wireless key for what?
[03:49] <sethk> TheGame, he means the wireless ethernet key
[03:49] <brendonjt> zxc:is it mounted?
[03:49] <TheGame> oh
[03:49] <zxc> brendonjt: I don't know :/
[03:49] <Rookie-> [03:45]  <damn_hot> oh! longwave it says "The system administrator is not allowed to login from this screen." <<--- sounds like windows ... *grins evily*
[03:49] <TheGame> so basically he needs network-manager?
[03:49] <Huck> zxc look for /dev/hdd or /dev/hdd1 would probably be something like that..
[03:49] <brendonjt> zxc:it would more than likely have to be mounted
[03:50] <damn_hot> Rookie- : it is not windows... it is unbuntu login screen.
[03:50] <goldenflaw> TheGame: It's at the library, for some reason, I can only receive packets, but not send them
[03:50] <damn_hot> and that message was exactly what ubuntu says.
[03:50] <Rookie-> ohh? hmm ... root not allowed .. ? hmmm
[03:50] <TheGame> ur at the library goldenflaw ?
[03:50] <zxc> brendonjt: How can I mount it? (I can see it in /dev/desk/by-label but I can't access it)
[03:50] <goldenflaw> TheGame: no, I am at home right now
[03:51] <sethk> damn_hot, lot in as other than root, then use sudo or su
[03:51] <TheGame> so i dont understand what u want to do
[03:51] <TheGame> u want to setup wireless?
[03:51] <brendonjt> huck: i've had problems with  mounting fat32  it has to mounted ubuntu  does'nt  mount  them by default
[03:51] <goldenflaw> TheGame: yes, so it works when I am at my library
[03:51] <TheGame> oh ok
[03:51] <TheGame> what computer r u running ubuntu on
[03:51] <damn_hot> sethk, then what will the password be for sudo
[03:51] <sethk> damn_hot, the user's (not root, the logged in user's) password
[03:52] <brendonjt> zxc:what is the partition or drive ie hdb1 hdb2 hda2 hda3 etc
[03:52] <sethk> damn_hot, which makes no sense, I know, but that's how it is set up.
[03:52] <damn_hot> during installation, it asks me fpr user name and password, i used that. why i cant login
[03:53] <goldenflaw> TheGame: my Laptop, MacBook
[03:53] <sethk> damn_hot, no idea.  you said you were having a problem, can't log in as root
[03:53] <Huck> brendonjt, your right, I've followed the ubuntuguide.org in order to mount mine
[03:53] <zxc> brendonjt: I don't know exactly...how can I check?
[03:53] <sethk> damn_hot, what happens when you try to log in as the user/password you used?
[03:53] <AndrukTatum> on my other computer, my eth0 card isnt working, does anybody know how to configure it?
[03:53] <damn_hot> it says "incorrect username / password .. : something liek that.
[03:53] <brendonjt> zxc:system->admin->disks
[03:53] <AndrukTatum> dapper
[03:54] <brendonjt> zxc:it will list all your drives and the partitions
[03:54] <sethk> AndrukTatum, not without more information.  try ifconfig -a on the box, see if it shows up in the list
[03:55] <AndrukTatum> sethk: ifconfig -a command not found
[03:55] <goldenflaw> TheGame: 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT, if it is useful
[03:55] <shinta42> benc, you there?
[03:55] <sethk> AndrukTatum, try  /sbin/ifconfig -a
[03:55] <AndrukTatum> no such file or directory
[03:55] <zxc> Disc Manager is slow :/
[03:56] <sethk> AndrukTatum, sounds like networking isn't installed
[03:56] <damn_hot> sethk : after the installation is finished, the system reboots, and i choose normal ubuntu from the boot options and when then a login screen appears, is this normal on a 1st installation ?
[03:56] <brendonjt> zxc:yip itis scanning ur hdd's  and your ide ports
[03:56] <sethk> AndrukTatum, which would explain why the card doesn't show up.  although I'm curious about how you would know it doesn't show up if ifconfig isn't available
[03:56] <zxc> brendonjt: nvm...I'll just use windows to do it...thanks anyway though
[03:58] <pluto> When I'm in a directory under my home directory and I want to return to the root direcotry, what is the easiest way to do so?
[03:58] <sethk> damn_hot, not on the first reboot
[03:58] <sethk> damn_hot, it should install bunches of stuff
[03:58] <AndrukTatum> sethk: im in gnome, and in the (sry, win...s term:) system tray in the upper right toolbar thing it has a networking monitor and it has a red x over it, and when i double click it, it tries to configure a ppp connection, and doesnt have an eth0 connection
[03:58] <brendonjt> pluto cd /
[03:58] <corndog_> I've finally given up on 64bit ubuntu and would like to downgrade/reinstall 32bit... any suggestions on how to backup or save my existing modifications?
[03:59] <AndrukTatum> sethk: oh, and firefox doesnt do anything, not even my router
[03:59] <sethk> AndrukTatum, that's odd, I'm not sure how you got there.  but if ifconfig doesn't exist on the machine, something went wrong with the installation.
[03:59] <damn_hot> ok... im reinstalling it again.
[03:59] <damn_hot> bbl. ^^
[03:59] <sethk> AndrukTatum, of course not, it has nowhere to send things to
[03:59] <longwave> pluto: "cd /" will take you to the root, just "cd" will take you to your home
[03:59] <sethk> AndrukTatum, double check,  do:   find / -name ifconfig         make sure it doesn't exist anywhere on the box
[03:59] <pluto> brendonjt: thanks again!
[04:00] <brendonjt> pluto:  no worries
[04:00] <Huck> brendonjt, do etc3 drives get mounted automatically? just curious
[04:01] <brendonjt> huck: umm nope  mine didn't had to edit the fstab  to do it, seems  ubuntu  just does the first ide hdd  weird though
[04:01] <ubuntu> cool
[04:01] <ubuntu> hi
[04:01] <AndrukTatum> sethk: i t couldnt access a lot of directories, so im now sudo and did it, and it taking a long time
[04:02] <ubuntu> YOooooooooo
[04:02] <brendonjt> huck: ya need a hand with that?
[04:02] <ubuntu> Linux Live Cd is shiiiiiii
[04:02] <ubuntu> :|
[04:02] <sethk> AndrukTatum, it's normal for that to take several minutes,
[04:02] <sethk> AndrukTatum, it's a slow check but also a definitive one
[04:02] <brendonjt> ubuntu: why you say that
[04:02] <ubuntu> erm
[04:02] <ubuntu> i dono
[04:02] <Huck> brendonjt, no, I've got FAT32 drives as internals for storage, I was just curious. Thank you though :D
[04:02] <ubuntu> first time using linux
[04:02] <ubuntu> and im bored
[04:02] <ubuntu> i messed up trying to install linux
[04:02] <ubuntu> and there was an error
[04:03] <ubuntu> so i cant load up xp =(
[04:03] <AndrukTatum> Warning, hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched
[04:03] <sethk> ubuntu, boot windows from cd and do  fdisk/mbr
[04:03] <brendonjt> ubuntu: boot to repair console from ur winxp  and type fdisk /mbr
[04:03] <ubuntu> wat
[04:03] <DarkTower> The Upgrade to
[04:03] <DarkTower> Dapper says it will remove Mysql common, does that mean i will lose all my tables?
[04:03] <ubuntu> what do i do
[04:04] <brendonjt> huck: oh ok  i had fat32  but reformatted my drive to ext3
[04:04] <ubuntu> i dont have winxp cd with me
[04:04] <auk> ubotu, gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly
[04:04] <Muhamer> i dont have win xp cd with me
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <auk> err
[04:04] <AndrukTatum> sethk: Warning, hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver. automatically turning on find's -noleaf option. earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched
[04:04] <auk> !gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly
[04:04] <brendonjt> muhamer:  ok  umm how did you stuff it up
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> corndog_: You should be able to install 386 or 686
[04:04] <Huck> brendonjt, yea, I need to share mine with windows, or I'd do the same.
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <Ricesteam> How do I get true transparency with gnome-terminal?
[04:04] <Muhamer> umm
[04:05] <Muhamer> are u pming me
[04:05] <Muhamer> just so i dont bother other ppl by spamming :|
[04:05] <sethk> AndrukTatum, you can ignore that, /proc is a pseudo file system
[04:05] <CSWookie> Does the live CD not have xterm?
[04:05] <longwave> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[04:05] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 176 kB, installed size 484 kB
[04:05] <brendonjt> muhamer:  no i'm not
[04:05] <DarkTower> Will I lose any mysql tables in the upgrade to dapper? it says it will remove mysql common in the upgrade process
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Muhamer: bootdisk.com
[04:05] <Muhamer> =|
[04:05] <CSWookie> There it is.
[04:05] <Muhamer> i got 5 ppl telling me different things
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:06] <brendonjt> huck: pitty windows doesn't do other fs  formats
[04:06] <AndrukTatum> sethk: k, no results
[04:06] <auk> Muhamer: if you're talking to me, i'm am talking to ubotu [sic] , a bot on this channel
[04:06] <longwave> DarkTower: you shouldn't do, the mysql-server package should own the tables - is mysql-common being replaced by a newer version?
[04:06] <CSWookie> brendonjt: It does.
[04:06] <Muhamer> u talk to bots..
[04:06] <Muhamer> o
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !boot
[04:06] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:06] <CSWookie> brendonjt: There ae drivers for ext2, for example.
[04:06] <Huck> brendonjt, yea, but that's the beauty of ubuntu/linux... it's "backwards" compatible :)
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes we do
[04:07] <leed> I get a .patch file. So how to use it with patch command
[04:07] <AndrukTatum> ubotu: will you marry me?
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about will you marry me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <Muhamer> w.e this isnt helping me ill wait for my friend to hel pme
[04:07] <AndrukTatum> lol
[04:07] <brendonjt> CSwookie: ok  what i was meaning was default  would be nice
[04:07] <DarkTower> longwave: thanks, yes im just checking that. it wouldnt be normal to delete tables or anything would it?
[04:07] <edju> Strangest thing - on the laptop, insert a commercial data cd, Scrabble game, Netgear insallation, etc, and it's mounted and is read w/o a hitch.  Insert a Linux livcd, knoppix, ubuntu, etc. and ubuntu sees it as a blank cd.  Mounts OK on a desktop machine.  Anybody w/ a hint?
[04:07] <longwave> leed: generally just cd to the folder to patch, the "patch < file.patch"
[04:07] <brendonjt> huck: yip  that's right, even the OSx  will read ntfs/fat32
[04:08] <longwave> DarkTower: no, it shouldn't do that at all - even if you uninstall most packages any actual data you create usually gets left behind, so you can reinstall later and it will still work
[04:08] <DarkTower> longwave: thanks for the help
[04:08] <longwave> DarkTower: if you are upgrading a previous release to dapper though, i suggest you take a backup of anything vital just in case
[04:09] <Psykus> trying to get an FM tuner working right, using gnomeradio, and it seems to be working, tuning it to a known station shows the signal strength go to max, but I cant get any audio
[04:09] <leed> longwave: It ask me to give the file to patch. So what  I should give, the src file or the bin file
[04:10] <Psykus> poking around in alsamixer now, looking to see if anything is muted, but I have no clue what it would be called
[04:10] <auk> mp3 support is in... gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer-0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, or gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3?
[04:10] <bintut> is there an ubuntu irc channel that discusses about embedded linux?
[04:10] <AndrukTatum> sethk: any ideas?
[04:10] <longwave> leed: what are you trying to patch? patch generally handles source code patches..
[04:10] <sethk> AndrukTatum, if it's a new installation, I would repeat the installation, as something is very wrong
[04:10] <auk> (well, i know it's in the fluendo pkg, but what's the difference from the ugly packages and why would i choose one over teh other?)
[04:10] <sethk> bintut, I don't know of one off hand.  I've done a lot of embedded work, you can pm me if you like
[04:11] <AndrukTatum> sethk: ive had this install for awhile, but i wouldnt mind reinstalling it.  ill get to it, thanks a million!
[04:11] <leed> longwave: rox-filer. It cann't deal with the non utf8 file. It cann't work now, and it will restart my X. So I found a patch.
[04:12] <CSWookie> brendonjt: It would be nice, but since you're but a google search away...
[04:12] <brendonjt> CSwookie: i don't use windows yuk, just ubuntu
[04:13] <CSWookie> brendonjt: Must be rough when you have to veiw a web site in IE.
[04:13] <brendonjt> CSwookie: you got that right all those security holes, and bugs, eeeww
[04:14] <CSWookie> brendonjt: Eh.
[04:15] <Psykus> trying to get an FM tuner working under ubuntu, using gnomeradio, and it seems to be working, tuning it to a known station shows the signal strength go to max, but I cant get any audio..poking around in alsamixer now, not seeing anything
[04:15] <brendonjt> CSwookie: and i myself and the people that i have set up ubuntu on there machine wonder why they hadn't made the change earlier
[04:15] <CSWookie> brendonjt: Whatever.  Just don't put it on the wubs.
[04:15] <longwave> leed: you should probably download the source with "apt-get source rox-filer", then apply the patch, then compile it from there
[04:15] <brendonjt> CSwookie: wubs??
[04:15] <CSWookie> brendonjt: The intarwubs.
[04:16] <brendonjt> CSwookie: lol
[04:16] <CSWookie> Well, lets see if fsck did the job it was designed for.
[04:19] <CSWookie> God protect the rocket house and all who dwell within he rocket house!
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Long live the rockettes...
[04:20] <Skuz`> anyone mind sharing a good terminal mp3 player with me?
[04:20] <Skuz`> i've got juke installed but it wont add anything to queue
[04:20] <Psykus> anyone else in here use an fm tuner in ubuntu?
[04:20] <Skuz`> i had used one once that worked really well
[04:20] <AndrukTatum> they should make IE for linux, so when all the 31337 hackzorz try to find the C drive, they get nuked
[04:20] <Skuz`> lol AndrukTatum
[04:20] <AndrukTatum> does anybody know if wine can run IE?
[04:21] <AndrukTatum> because, i totally trust Billy Gates to secure my computer.
[04:21] <leed> longwave: so i should download the src file, and then patch the file
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> AndrukTatum: not the latest.. 5.5 maybe.. but WHY would you do that to a ANY pc
[04:21] <Muhamer> Anyone here
[04:21] <DarkMageZ> AndrukTatum, yeah, wine can run internet exploder, alot of web dev's have to test their stuff with it...
[04:21] <Muhamer> that can help me
[04:21] <bartel> can someone help me with wireless on dapper?
[04:21] <longwave> leed: presuming the patch is for the source version, yes
[04:21] <bartel> im getting Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth
[04:21] <Fuller> Hello.
[04:21] <longwave> AndrukTatum: yes, there are installers for various IE versions under wine
[04:21] <Muhamer> no helpers.
[04:21] <Muhamer> =(
[04:22] <leed> longwave: thanks
[04:22] <Fuller> I was wondering if anyone could tell me the option to free up my terminal when I type sudo gedit
[04:22] <peteweez> clear
[04:22] <bartel> sudo gedit &
[04:22] <syllogism> Is there a better build system then gnu auto{conf,make,header} ?
[04:22] <peteweez> oh serialize
[04:22] <longwave> Fuller: ctrl-Z then type "bg" so gedit doesn't stop
[04:22] <Fuller> ah, the & sign. maybe that's it.
[04:22] <shawnr_> anyone know of a good java irc chan?
[04:22] <brendonjt> muhamer:  wots your problem, we tried
[04:22] <longwave> Fuller: if you want to run commands like that you can just press alt-f2 as well
[04:22] <syllogism> because this is just a pain in the @$$ to setup properly
[04:22] <Skuz`> So whats a good terminal mp3 player?
[04:22] <bartel> ctrl-z bg does the same thing
[04:22] <Muhamer> bren
[04:22] <Skuz`> juke isnt working out for me atm
[04:22] <Muhamer> wait
[04:22] <Muhamer> :P
[04:22] <Fuller> hm. i'll try that too bartel and longwave.
[04:22] <peteweez> skuz: mplayer
[04:23] <geomarcomputers> can someone please help me find an IDE SATA card supported by ubuntu ?
[04:23] <bartel> dapper wireless?
[04:23] <amonkey_> my 460gb partition formatted with xfs in about 2 seconds. is this right/normal? i expected it to take longer
[04:23] <AndrukTatum> lmfao, thats really funny.  i would do that just so i could say i did
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !sata
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <Muhamer> umm
[04:23] <ladydoor> Skuz`: pytone
[04:23] <Muhamer> i cant go on xp
[04:23] <Muhamer> and i couldnt get linux
[04:23] <shawnr_> good ;p
[04:23] <AndrukTatum> amonkey_: ah, the power of ext3, jk, no, it should definitely take longer.
[04:23] <Muhamer> cuz there was an error
[04:23] <shawnr_> not good
[04:23] <longwave> amonkey_: presumably xfs just does a quick format to initialise an empty root directory and nothing else
[04:23] <Muhamer> and now im on linux live
[04:24] <brendonjt> muhamer:  what was the error?
[04:24] <Muhamer> uhh brb
[04:24] <Muhamer> have it on paper :P
[04:24] <ladydoor> Skuz`: it takes a little configurating (you can get the sample rc out of /usr/share/doc/pytone and edit it), but it works great and is pretty
[04:24] <Muhamer> Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[04:24] <amonkey_> longwave, i was able to make a file in it and read right to it
[04:24] <Fuller> hmmm...this is interesting. Now gedit doesn't seem to do anything.
[04:24] <amonkey_> longwave, what else should i do?
[04:24] <Fuller> just hangs.
[04:24] <eigenlambda> azureus sucks, but gnome-btdownload won't tell me which port i should foreward
[04:24] <Skuz`> ladydoor: how about one that doesnt require alot of editing to get it working :)
[04:24] <eigenlambda> and i need to pirate windows vista prereleases
[04:24] <eigenlambda> so
[04:24] <longwave> amonkey_: nothing i guess, if you can mount and read/write it and "df" shows the right amount of free space
[04:24] <Muhamer> so bren
[04:24] <HeathenDan> utorrent + wine eigenlambda
[04:25] <longwave> Fuller: did you type "bg" then press enter after ctrl-z?
[04:25] <eigenlambda> HeathenDan: lol rite
[04:25] <amonkey_> longwave, still scary, was way to fast
[04:25] <ladydoor> Skuz`: well, to get it working you just need to tell it where your music is. the configuratin' i was referring to was just colors, keybindings, etc.
[04:25] <Psykus> i hate how wine uses the default ugly windows theme though
[04:25] <eigenlambda> ya
[04:25] <Psykus> wish it could convert it to GTK somehow
[04:25] <Muhamer> ok bren isnt responding so..
[04:25] <brendonjt> muhamer:  have you tried installing it again, where  to you try installing it to?
[04:25] <eigenlambda> yeah really
[04:25] <Skuz`> ladydoor:  ok :)
[04:25] <ladydoor> Skuz`: you might like mocp, though; on my dapper, however, it suddenly got ugly :-(
[04:25] <Fuller> longwave: I tried gedit with the & sign first
[04:25] <eigenlambda> would be cool to make wine do stuff like swing and look like gtk
[04:25] <Skuz`> hmm mocp cant be found
[04:25] <Skuz`> is it avail on repos
[04:26] <Fuller> longwave: Then after that it started to hang
[04:26] <longwave> Fuller: it should also work with the & sign; did you get [1]  12345 or something after the command? that means the job was put in the background ok..
[04:26] <Muhamer> bren let me get my friend to answer since he did the installation so hold on
[04:26] <Fuller> longwave: Ah. Let me open a new terminal window and check it out.
[04:27] <longwave> Fuller: to run commands like that you can press alt-f2 to enter a single command line
[04:27] <longwave> then you don't need the &
[04:27] <Muhamer> bren
[04:27] <Muhamer> u there
[04:27] <brendonjt> muhamer:  yip
[04:27] <Muhamer> i cant find gparted
[04:28] <eigenlambda> so i wonder
[04:28] <Fuller> longwave: What if the file I need to edit is in a deep directory?
[04:28] <eigenlambda> whether azureus will like that i have dash as /bin/sh
[04:28] <eigenlambda> lol
[04:28] <nictuku> is there any known corner case where the owner of /var/spool/postfix/defer/* directories is 'klog' instead of postfix?
[04:28] <longwave> Fuller: in that case, if you're used to the command line, the & version or ctrl-z/bg trick should work too
[04:28] <brendonjt> muhamer:  what is the cd is it a downloaded or a pressed one from ship-it
[04:29] <eigenlambda> i love how compiz shows that windows are frozen!
[04:29] <longwave> Fuller: if you close the terminal that you started gedit from, it might have problems though
[04:29] <eigenlambda> would be cool if the grey was kind of blue though, and the windows got some icicles.  lol.-
[04:29] <Muhamer> bren my friends on phone can u hold on a sec
[04:29] <Skuz`> yea i need a real music player ladydoor
[04:29] <Psykus> anyone able to help me with my fm tuner question? the app (gnomeradio) seems to see and use the tuner card fine, but i'm not getting any audio
[04:29] <Skuz`> not one that takes 6 months to configure
[04:29] <peteweez> Skuz: mplayer
[04:29] <peteweez> mplayer.hu
[04:29] <Skuz`> ...
[04:29] <peteweez> it's great
[04:29] <Skuz`> thats not going to do me a bit of good mate
[04:29] <brendonjt> muhamer:  yip ok
[04:30] <Skuz`> i need a terminal mp3 player firstly :P
[04:30] <peteweez> mplayer works in terminal
[04:30] <eigenlambda> m0hid.hu
[04:30] <longwave> mpg321 is pretty basic as mp3 players go
[04:30] <eigenlambda> vote for colbert
[04:30] <eigenlambda> lol
[04:30] <Skuz`> longwave:  thats the one i've used before
[04:30] <Skuz`> i liked it
[04:31] <Muhamer> BREN
[04:31] <Muhamer> Downloaded
[04:31] <Fuller> longwave: When I type bg, it asks for a password, but interprets my password as a command it does not recognize and then fails.
[04:31] <peteweez> eigenlambda: if you delete cookies, you can vote multiple times...i voted for colbert like 5 times
[04:31] <eigenlambda> (!)
[04:31] <eigenlambda> wo
[04:31] <eigenlambda> wow
[04:32] <longwave> Fuller: ah, that may be something to do with running sudo in the background
[04:32] <longwave> Fuller: try using "gksudo" instead for graphical apps
[04:32] <eigenlambda> they use cookies to determine who you are
[04:32] <eigenlambda> i am impressed
[04:32] <peteweez> yeah
[04:32] <Muhamer> BREN
[04:32] <Muhamer> its downloaded
[04:32] <Muhamer> and i tried installing it again
[04:32] <peteweez> to make sure you only vote once
[04:32] <eigenlambda> ::goes to stuff the n00bs ballot box::
[04:32] <Muhamer> and i don't remember where to
[04:32] <longwave> Fuller: of course you do not need sudo if you have permissions to write to the file anyway
[04:32] <Skuz`> thank you longwave :)
[04:32] <Skuz`> this was the mp3 player i used before
[04:32] <Skuz`> works fine :)
[04:33] <Ricesteam> Whats the difference between Quinn-Compiz and the Compiz in Synaptic?
[04:33] <longwave> Skuz`: yep, it doesn't do much, but what it does do it does well :)
[04:33] <brendonjt> muhamer:  in you systems bios  have you got it set to boot from that drive?
[04:33] <peteweez> eigenlambda: I think someone made a php script cuz there was a name like php-script that got a crapload of votes.
[04:33] <Fuller> longwave: Right. This file is running in the pygame examples directory outside of my Home though. :-)
[04:33] <Muhamer> Yes
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all
[04:34] <redsoxfan90> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 what linux do i choose?
[04:34] <Pelo> evening guys
[04:34] <brendonjt> muhamer:  has anyone else used that cd to install  ubuntu  or just you
[04:34] <peteweez> redsoxfan90: depends on your needs...but ubuntu & debian are the best ;-)
[04:34] <CSWookie> What's the port for secure mail server?  425?
[04:34] <D0wn> I need some help compiling gtk
[04:34] <D0wn> or installing
[04:34] <longwave> Fuller: if you are editing files that have been installed by an ubuntu package, i recommend copying them to somewhere in your home folder so you can edit them easier, and any future package upgrades won't overwrite your changes
[04:35] <redsoxfan90> i have ubuntu
[04:35] <redsoxfan90> please click that link
[04:35] <redsoxfan90> to know waht im talking about :)
[04:35] <XSah> Hi, I want to ask, when i download a package using apt-get install, then i want that package to use it in other computer that does not connecting to the internet, then where i will find it !!!?
[04:35] <StoneNote> CSWookie, I think it's 465
[04:35] <peteweez> D0wn: You're really having problems with graphical libraries today, arent you?
[04:35] <Muhamer> no one else used it
[04:35] <D0wn> Yes
[04:35] <D0wn> :P
[04:35] <peteweez> I hate that.
[04:35] <StoneNote> CSWookie, Secure SMTP Port: 465 Secure POP3 Port: 995
[04:36] <Fuller> longwave: True. Perhaps I will do that. Thanks for the tip.
[04:36] <longwave> CSWookie: port 465 is the standard smtp over ssl port
[04:36] <D0wn> I tried to compile it, but that didn't work
[04:36] <Muhamer> WAT NETWORK IS THIS
[04:36] <D0wn> I wish there was a place where i could get GTK+ in a .deb
[04:36] <redsoxfan90> XSah: how do you expect it to get files if your not on the net?
[04:36] <peteweez> D0wn: can't you use the ubuntu repository?
[04:36] <StoneNote> Muhamer, FreeNode
[04:36] <peteweez> they have debs
[04:36] <D0wn> It wouldn't work
[04:36] <D0wn> Where?
[04:36] <Muhamer> what the hell is that lol
[04:36] <nownott> im trying to boot windows in ubuntu with vmware but im haveing problems can someone help me w/ this
[04:36] <longwave> D0wn: gtk+ is available in the repositories
[04:36] <Muhamer> FreeNode?
[04:37] <micahcowan> Muhamer, do you have a question about ubuntu?
[04:37] <Muhamer> wtf
[04:37] <XSah> redsoxfan90: i downloaded it using a one connecting to the net
[04:37] <Muhamer> yes
[04:37] <XSah> then i want to use it in another computer
[04:37] <Psykus> there's also a TV tuner on this card...trying it out with tvtime, can't get audio working on that either
[04:37] <Muhamer> ive been here for almost an hr
[04:37] <Muhamer> :|
[04:37] <peteweez> resoxfan: ok that depends what your graphics card it
[04:37] <brendonjt> stonenote:  what you think there muhamer's problem
[04:37] <peteweez> *is
[04:37] <redsoxfan90> buy  a router
[04:37] <longwave> D0wn: you probably want libgtk2.0-dev if you're trying to compile a package that needs GTK+ 2.0
[04:37] <peteweez> redsoxfan: what's your graphics card?
[04:37] <redsoxfan90> peteweez: i have radeon 200m
[04:37] <Muhamer> ??
[04:37] <D0wn> When I do a "sudo apt-cache search gtk+" there are too many results to try to find it
[04:37] <StoneNote> brendonjt, my esp is on the fritz so I can't tell
[04:38] <longwave> D0wn: what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:38] <nownott> pls some help w/ vmware
[04:38] <peteweez> redsoxfan: what's your cpu?
[04:38] <redsoxfan90> im not sure
[04:38] <D0wn> I'm trying to install it so I can compile source's
[04:38] <redsoxfan90> how can i check?
[04:38] <wweasel> XSah:" redsoxfan is being an ass. I am following your conversation because I am curious about the answer to your question.
[04:38] <brendonjt> muhamer:  when you installed it when it came to the disk partioner what options did you set?
[04:38] <StoneNote> nownott, what's up. I use vmware
[04:38] <peteweez> redsoxfan: is it intel pentium d, athlon, what?
[04:38] <longwave> D0wn: if you install the libgtk2.0-dev package that gives you everything you need to compile other GTK+ 2.0 applications
[04:38] <redsoxfan90> amd sempron
[04:38] <Muhamer> ffs my friend went offline hold on :|
[04:38] <brendonjt> stonenote:  i'm nearly pulling my hair out  only getting half the story
[04:38] <redsoxfan90> XSah: i honestly am not sure
[04:38] <peteweez> redsoxfan: is it 64 bit?
[04:39] <redsoxfan90> XSah: i have a router
[04:39] <Fuller> longwave: Well. the gksudo returned an interesting message. It said: (gedit:13986): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:39] <redsoxfan90> peteweez: i think a 32 im not sure :(
[04:39] <ladydoor> D0wn: libgtk2.0-dev is, i think, the specific package name
[04:39] <D0wn> I'll try "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev"
[04:39] <redsoxfan90> XSah: im not the world's smartest person.
[04:39] <ladydoor> Fuller: itsn't that the standard gedit error? i heard there was one
[04:39] <peteweez> redsoxfan: even if it's 64, it only acts like a 64 if you got a 64 version of linux... do uname -a and tell me what it says
[04:39] <brendonjt> muhamer:  you have to tell us the whole story  not half of it
[04:39] <Fuller> ladydoor: standard gedit error?
[04:39] <StoneNote> brendonjt, you can't force someone to communicate with you :) if he cannot state his problem in a hour then maybe that is his problem.
[04:40] <Muhamer> THis is my computer
[04:40] <Muhamer> I let my friend install it because i didnt kno how to
[04:40] <Muhamer> so he knows everything and im trying to reach him on phone and msn but hes not on
[04:40] <XSah> i didnt say that i just want to know how to install any update or any program to one is not connecting to the internet... thats all!
[04:40] <Pelo> redsoxfan90 , what kernel are you using , that will tell you if you need the i386 or x64 driver
[04:40] <ladydoor> i *thought* i heard that gedit spits out an error anytime you run it with gksudo. you might try sudo nano -w in a terminal instead; nano's "user-friendly" for a console-based app
[04:40] <amonkey> i put my xfs partition into fstab and now it works fine for root but my user can't make files or anything. how to i let regular people use the drive?
[04:40] <redsoxfan90> redsoxfan90@redsoxfan90-laptop:~$ uname -a
[04:40] <redsoxfan90> Linux redsoxfan90-laptop 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:40] <redsoxfan90> redsoxfan90@redsoxfan90-laptop:~$
[04:40] <peteweez> redsoxfan90: what does uname -a say?
[04:41] <peteweez> ook you're 32 bit
[04:41] <peteweez> not 64
[04:41] <redsoxfan90> thought so :)
[04:41] <redsoxfan90> so
[04:41] <longwave> Fuller: it looks like that's only a warning, does gedit still work after that message shows up?
[04:41] <peteweez> so get i386
[04:41] <redsoxfan90> i want the top link or bottom?
[04:41] <Muhamer> WAT NETWORK IS THIS!
[04:41] <peteweez> or x86
[04:41] <peteweez> top
[04:41] <ladydoor> !shout
[04:41] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:41] <peteweez> redsoxfan90: x86, the top one
[04:41] <Fuller> longwave: It could be hanging again, as a window does not pop up. I have to hit ctrl+z to get out.
[04:41] <peteweez> redsox: not x86_64
[04:41] <redsoxfan90> Motherboards with ATI Graphics Notebooks with ATI Graphics
[04:42] <brendonjt> ladydoor: thank you for that  gezz
[04:42] <Fuller> ladydoor: I'm trying to find a way to view a file and keep my terminal window from being hijacked by the file. :-)
[04:42] <peteweez> redsox: do you have a desktop or a laptop?
[04:42] <redsoxfan90> does it matter which one i choose?
[04:42] <peteweez> yes
[04:42] <redsoxfan90> laptop
[04:42] <redsoxfan90> so notebook :)
[04:42] <peteweez> do you have a graphics card or is it integrated?
[04:42] <XSah> so no body know how to save the files that i downloaded using this command "apt-get install something"
[04:42] <redsoxfan90> what do you mean my interfrate?
[04:42] <longwave> Fuller: if you only want to view a file, use "less" to read it in the console, scroll with cursor keys then q to quit
[04:42] <redsoxfan90> they save automatically i think Xsah
[04:43] <D0wn> Thanks to all who just helped me :D
[04:43] <redsoxfan90> or cntrl o
[04:43] <XSah> redsoxfan90: where?
[04:43] <redsoxfan90> no clue buddy
[04:43] <redsoxfan90> ive been using ubuntu for lika  week
[04:43] <redsoxfan90> as you notice im getting my graphic driver :)
[04:43] <ladydoor> brendonjt: for what?
[04:43] <XSah> redsoxfan90: i want to use them latter in other computer...
[04:43] <redsoxfan90> oh
[04:43] <ladydoor> Fuller: use gnu screen
[04:43] <redsoxfan90> i don;t think thats possible
[04:43] <brendonjt> ladydoor: pulling him up on shouting
[04:43] <Muhamer> BREN
[04:43] <Muhamer> bren
[04:43] <longwave> Fuller: this bug has been reported in launchpad but does not affect everyone, and there is no current fix :(  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/23917
[04:43] <Muhamer> u there
[04:43] <redsoxfan90> hook up that other computer to the interent
[04:43] <Muhamer> bren
[04:44] <ladydoor> brendonjt: oh...i thought you were being sarcastic. haha
[04:44] <Muhamer> bre
[04:44] <Fuller> longwave: I suppose it couldn't hurt to have one terminal window open to look at while I have another. I was hoping to take advantage of my mouse's scroll wheel to browse the file without the window needing to be active however.
[04:44] <brendonjt> muhamer:  i'm here
[04:44] <Muhamer> Breeeeeen
[04:44] <Muhamer> ok
[04:44] <Muhamer> Numbah51 is the guy
[04:44] <Fuller> ladydoor: is that a terminal command?
[04:44] <Muhamer> so ask him st0ff
[04:44] <longwave> Fuller: if you are using gnome-terminal, you can open tabs for little-used terminals to save screen space
[04:44] <ladydoor> Fuller: yes and no. it turns one terminal...into many
[04:44] <adil_> I don't want to start abrawl but what do you guys use for e-mail... I am looking for something close to MS Outlook
[04:44] <XSah> redsoxfan90: that will be a crazy thing " assuming that the update and the new packages about 350" and my internet download speed is 13Kb
[04:44] <Fuller> ladydoor: Say what?
[04:44] <ladydoor> Fuller: and it will change your computing life :-)
[04:44] <ladydoor> Fuller: lol
[04:44] <brendonjt> numbah51: what happened when you went to install it
[04:45] <redsoxfan90> Xsah try doing a search on your comp
[04:45] <Fuller> ladydoor: Uh oh, a life changing experience?
[04:45] <ladydoor> Fuller: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
[04:45] <redsoxfan90> and try attacking them in a email
[04:45] <ladydoor> Fuller: not really
[04:45] <redsoxfan90> no clue man
[04:45] <ladydoor> Fuller: i was being ironic
[04:45] <Fuller> ladydoor: hahaha!
[04:45] <ladydoor> Fuller: but it is really useful
[04:45] <Numbah51> Muhamer: Do you remember?
[04:45] <brendonjt> numbah51: he could have a corrupt copy of the iso  in that part did you use the live cd to install
[04:45] <longwave> Fuller: "screen" is like a set of tabbed terminals that is very useful if you have a lot of terminal sessions to manage
[04:45] <Muhamer> lol
[04:45] <XSah> redsoxfan90: do you know any good site for ubuntu packages specially ?
[04:46] <peteweez> redsox: sorry my computer rebooted
[04:46] <fern> hello
[04:46] <redsoxfan90> peteweez: no problem
[04:46] <brendonjt> numbah51: he is getting on my nerves he has only been giving half the story
[04:46] <Fuller> longwave: Ah. I see. This is gnu screen you are talking about?
[04:46] <redsoxfan90> XSah: not sure once again i use synaptic
[04:46] <brass> does anybody know why root would not be able to chane the group of a folder?
[04:46] <Numbah51> brendonjt: No we didn't use the livecd
[04:46] <redsoxfan90> XSah: try a search on google perhaps
[04:46] <longwave> Fuller: yes
[04:46] <redsoxfan90> ill get u a link
[04:46] <redsoxfan90> 1 sec
[04:46] <brendonjt> numbah51: ok  try  using the live cd to install it
[04:47] <Fuller> longwave: Is it already installed in Ubuntu?
[04:47] <ladydoor> brendonjt: what folder is it?
[04:47] <brendonjt> as it has a very good gui  for installing
[04:47] <ladydoor> brendonjt: sorry
[04:47] <peteweez> redsoxfan90: I think laptops always have integrated graphics, but I'm not sure (btw, I'm a red sox fan too :-)
[04:47] <ladydoor> brendonjt: that was for brass
[04:47] <longwave> Fuller: no, but it's in the repositories
[04:47] <Numbah51> brendonjt: ok he can try but i'm not at his house right now but he's a noob
[04:47] <ladydoor> brass: what folder is it?
[04:47] <Fuller> longwave: Alright. I'll go check it out.
[04:47] <fern> brass .. this sounds like a permissions thing
[04:47] <eigenlambda> ya red soxxez!
[04:47] <brendonjt> ladydoor: that cool
[04:47] <XSah> redsoxfan90:Thank you, yes i did and i found, but the update made a trouble, any way thank you
[04:47] <eigenlambda> lol whos heres from boston?
[04:47] <brass> my 'music' folder.    owner:  root    group:   plugdev
[04:47] <eigenlambda> lol
[04:47] <redsoxfan90> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[04:47] <peteweez> my dad was born in Lawrence, MA
[04:47] <redsoxfan90> peteweez: soxs are doing horrible i quit watching them :P
[04:48] <brass> when I change it from a sudo nautilus..   it imediately changes back.   when I use chgrp.  nothing happens
[04:48] <longwave> Fuller: actually, no, screen is included in ubuntu-desktop, you should already have it
[04:48] <redsoxfan90> were do you live ?
[04:48] <peteweez> redsoxfan90: yeah it is bad
[04:48] <brendonjt> numbah51: ok  do it for him from the live cd so he don't muck it up
[04:48] <peteweez> redsoxfan90: Marylan
[04:48] <redsoxfan90> ic
[04:48] <peteweez> *Maryland
[04:48] <brass> nautilus says I don't 'have the permissions'
[04:48] <redsoxfan90> your father around?
[04:48] <eigenlambda> soxes vs yanquis 2yrs ago was awesome
[04:48] <peteweez> asleep
[04:48] <redsoxfan90> ah ok
[04:48] <peteweez> yeah
[04:48] <eigenlambda> ...then we steamroll over stl
[04:48] <Fuller> longwave: Ah. alright.
[04:48] <redsoxfan90> yes but there ina slumb
[04:48] <redsoxfan90> slump
[04:48] <redsoxfan90> the soxs owners are stupid atm
[04:48] <peteweez> yeah no kidding
[04:48] <Numbah51> brendonjt: ok i'll do it tomorrow and i'll let you know tomorrow how it turned out
[04:48] <redsoxfan90> they didnt sighn no1
[04:48] <peteweez> but they're into big finishes
[04:49] <peteweez> no1?
[04:49] <redsoxfan90> won't happen this year
[04:49] <peteweez> who's he?
[04:49] <fern> brass .. find the linux survival guide in google and do the modules
[04:49] <redsoxfan90> the redsoxs owner didn't sighn anyone.
[04:49] <peteweez> oh ok
[04:49] <bear> I have a real quick question...  where does the network config file live and where is DNS stored?
[04:49] <barata> anybody uses pocketpc with ubuntu?
[04:49] <brendonjt> ok  i think  it might be the disk partioner he would get stuck on lol
[04:49] <peteweez> redsoxfan90: I think you're going to need x86 for laptops with integrated graphics.
[04:49] <wweasel> !offtopic
[04:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:49] <Numbah51> lol ok
[04:49] <longwave> bear: /etc/network/interfaces for dhcp/static ip configs, dns resolvers are in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:50] <fern> system .. amin .. networking
[04:50] <bear> is there a better network manager than the one that comes defaultly with ubuntu
[04:50] <bear> thank
[04:50] <redsoxfan90> peteweez: i got it
[04:50] <Fuller> ladydoor: Will screen display .py files?
[04:50] <redsoxfan90> peteweez: im going to pm you
[04:50] <peteweez> redsoxfan90: pm?
[04:50] <peteweez> what does pm mean?
[04:50] <redsoxfan90> private message
[04:50] <Agrajag> Fuller: screen doesn't display any files
[04:50] <brendonjt> brb  going for a smoke after all that
[04:50] <peteweez> oh ok
[04:51] <ladydoor> Fuller: it displays your terminal
[04:51] <Fuller> Agrajag: Hm. I'll have to read the documentation...
[04:51] <peteweez> brendonjt: smoking will kill you.
[04:51] <Agrajag> Fuller: screen is a program that allows you to open a virtual terminal that you can detach from and reattach to
[04:51] <pike_> bear: its pretty easy just to use the command line tools
[04:52] <brendonjt> peteweez:i know  i am giving up  but after that guy  yikes
[04:52] <Fuller> Agrajag, ladydoor: Is going to File>Open Tab the same as using this screen ability?
[04:52] <brass> doing modules will not help me give the root users permissions
[04:52] <fern> any ideas how get this system to recognise a USB modem
[04:53] <longwave> Fuller: it is kind of the same thing, but way more powerful - though you will need to read the docs to get the most out of  it
[04:53] <Agrajag> Fuller: no
[04:53] <ladydoor> Fuller: what longwave said
[04:53] <Fuller> longwave, ladydoor, Agrajag: Alright. I'll go read the docs. Thanks all for your help!
[04:53] <fern> Brass... it will tell you haow to do that
[04:53] <Agrajag> Fuller: all you really need, for now: "screen" starts a new screen. ctrl-a, d detaches. screen -r reattaches.
[04:53] <gre123>  anyone ever try KANOTIX?
[04:53] <richard> Im having problems with downloading files bigger than 2 GB ... ie Ubuntu DVD - they consistantly fail - and i do have the space
[04:54] <richard> ?
[04:54] <Agrajag> richard: what filesystem is the drive you are trying to save the files to?
[04:54] <gre123> i was think of usin it as a second distro on my comp
[04:54] <ladydoor> Agrajag: out of curiosity, do you use the default C-a as the master key?
[04:54] <Agrajag> yeah
[04:54] <richard> er standard install filesystem
[04:54] <Agrajag> richard: so, ext3?
[04:55] <richard> how do i check ...... but i think so yeah
[04:55] <Agrajag> you can run "mount" in a terminal and it will show you all mounted filesystems
[04:55] <Agrajag> types, and mount options used on each
[04:55] <sceptre0> is there an easy way to detect a new mouse without restarting?
[04:55] <Fuller> Agrajag: What does ctrl-a do?
[04:55] <brass> do you also think the modules will tell me why the owner, whose also a member of the group can't change the group?
[04:55] <longwave> ladydoor: i use the default ctrl-a, my only change to screen is a custom status bar with load averages, date/time and the window list
[04:56] <gianluigibuffon> hi
[04:56] <gianluigibuffon> I need some help guys
[04:56] <shawnr_> !ask
[04:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:56] <gianluigibuffon> I downloaded reloadevery for conqueror... is a xpi file... how I install it???????
[04:56] <ladydoor> longwave: oh, sweet
[04:57] <fern> yes
[04:57] <sceptre0> gianluigibuffon: open it with firefox
[04:57] <ladydoor> gianluigibuffon: are you talking about konqueror, the KDE web browser, or conkeror, the firefox extension?
[04:57] <Fuller> longwave: Does ctrl+a move between the tabs?
[04:57] <gianluigibuffon> konqueror with I can browse the internet too
[04:57] <gianluigibuffon> I browse with firefox
[04:57] <ladydoor> Fuller: C-a n and C-a p does
[04:57] <Agrajag> Fuller: in screen, ctrl-a by itself tells screen that the next key you press is a screen command
[04:57] <gianluigibuffon> but I want reloadevery for konqueror
[04:57] <ladydoor> Fuller: or C-a *tabnumber*
[04:57] <shawnr_> gianluigibuffon, xpi is an extension for firefox plugins
[04:57] <Agrajag> ctrl-a, d detaches, for example.
[04:58] <gianluigibuffon> only for firefox?
[04:58] <longwave> Fuller: all screen commands are ctrl+a then another keypress; ctrl+a space moves to the next window, ctrl+a ctrl+a moves back, or ctrl+a number to go direct to a window
[04:58] <gianluigibuffon> then where can I find plugings for Konqueror??????
[04:58] <bear> Pike what command line tools?
[04:58] <Fuller> longwave, ladydoor, Agrajag: I see. I see...thanks again.
[04:58] <gre123> GOOD NIGHT
[04:58] <richard> yeah ext3
[04:59] <peteweez> oops didn't know ppl could get booted for flooding
[04:59] <peteweez> poor redsoxfan90
[04:59] <ladydoor> Fuller: sweet, hope you like it
[04:59] <Fuller> longwave, ladydoor, Agrajag: Ah! Yes. Now I can go to a new terminal even if the one is being hijacked by gedit. Sweet deal.
[05:00] <ladydoor> Fuller: :-)
[05:00] <Fuller> ladydoor: My life will never be the same! :P
[05:00] <Agrajag> Fuller: hijacked by gedit?
[05:00] <pike_> bear: you were asking about tools for managing connections. i just meant like ifconfig iwconfig dhclient and such
[05:00] <gianluigibuffon> nah I will do it with firefox
[05:00] <gianluigibuffon> xD
[05:00] <longwave> Agrajag: Fuller seems to be experiencing https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/23917
[05:00] <Fuller> Agrajag: Referring to how you cannot do anything more with a terminal after typing gedit.
[05:01] <longwave> Agrajag: which is causing problems when running gksudo gedit in the background for some reason
[05:01] <Agrajag> Fuller: of course you can
[05:01] <Agrajag> Fuller: gedit&
[05:01] <richard> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[05:01] <Agrajag> Fuller: or, run gedit from the terminal, select the terminal window, hit ctrl+z, then run "bg"
[05:01] <bear> pike_: so what your saying is I should read the man file on ifconfig
[05:01] <Agrajag> Fuller: now you're got 3 ways to avoid it
[05:01] <gianluigibuffon> hey guys
[05:01] <Fuller> Agrajag: I was trying that...but it wasn't opening the gedit window, and the terminal was just hanging...
[05:02] <Agrajag> you've, even
[05:02] <gianluigibuffon> how I install a tar.gz with dapper????
[05:02] <Agrajag> odd
[05:02] <orlock> Hey, is anybody here using a Nvidia nForce 430 based board that can chck something for me?
[05:02] <pike_> bear: give me a for instance on what youre trying to connect to
[05:02] <ladydoor> Fuller: lol
[05:02] <Fuller> Agrajag: Ha. However, for some reason. This time it worked...
[05:02] <ladydoor> Fuller: you might also try <alt>F2 gksudo nautilus <enter>
[05:02] <peteweez> redsoxfan90: you there?
[05:02] <richard> Agrajag: /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[05:02] <ozzloy> is there a way to say "what's process has this file open right now?"
[05:03] <orlock> ozzloy: fuser
[05:03] <sethk> ozzloy, lsof | grep filename
[05:03] <Agrajag> richard: oh, well that's odd, ext3 has no 2gig limit that I know of
[05:03] <bear> pike_: I have a note book and I travel between 13 offices all with different wireless configurations
[05:03] <richard> maybe its a firefox bug
[05:03] <Fuller> ladydoor: Yes, I suppose then whenever I opened a file it would be in root mode. That's a good tip, thanks.
[05:04] <ladydoor> Fuller: np
[05:04] <richard> Agrajag: i'll try a downloader program - any suggestions?
[05:04] <Agrajag> richard: wget
[05:04] <richard> thx
[05:04] <pike_> bear: i do normally this: 1. "sudo -s" 2. "iwlist ath0 scan" 3. "iwconfig ath0 essid namethescanfound" 4. "dhclient ath0"
[05:04] <Agrajag> just open a terminal and run "wget <file>"
[05:04] <Muhamer> Thanks Bren, see you tomorrow.
[05:04] <ozzloy> thank you orlock sethk
[05:04] <bear> pike_: I just want to beable to auto connect to the networks without having to kepp putting in the wep keys
[05:04] <Fuller> ladydoor, Agrajag, longwave: Thanks for arming me with these new commands. I'm going to go get some rest. Good evening.
[05:04] <Justin_> IS OSS/ALSA the best that Linux audio gets?
[05:04] <pike_> bear: ah wep
[05:04] <ladydoor> Fuller: :-)
[05:04] <ladydoor> Fuller: good luck
[05:04] <brendonjt> ladydoor:  here is something i have been trying to figure out  what does the gk in gksudo  gedit  mean
[05:05] <ladydoor> brendonjt: it means that it's a "gtk" version of sudo
[05:05] <brendonjt> ladydoor:  ok  is it better  or just the same
[05:05] <ladydoor> brendonjt: i.e., graphikal and integrated with gnome, as opposed to being a terminal command
[05:05] <Abst> Is there any mail client for linux that is always open in the GNOME panel and will alert me of new email when it comes?
[05:05] <richard> Agrajag: is wget the same as aget - if not its not on synaptic
[05:06] <brendonjt> ladydoor:  ok  ithank you for clearing that up for me
[05:06] <ladydoor> brendonjt: it's just for graphikal applications that're going to open their own windows, whereas sudo is for the command line
[05:06] <gianluigibuffon> how I install a tar.gz with dapper????
[05:06] <ladydoor> brendonjt: np
[05:06] <pike_> bear: that would be editing the interfaces file for the autoconnect and specifying the wep keys. i know in solaris you can do multiple keys and even profiles with wificonfig (similar to iwconfig in linux sortof)
[05:06] <Agrajag> richard: wget is in there, maybe you don't have universe enabled?
[05:06] <richard> i do
[05:07] <Abst> Richard: Why not go into Terminal and type sudo apt-get install wget
[05:07] <Abst> That'll install it
[05:07] <richard> ah gwget
[05:07] <richard> found it
[05:07] <Agrajag> gwget?
[05:07] <richard> yeah
[05:07] <peteweez> redsoxfan90: u there?
[05:07] <Agrajag> must be some graphical frontend
[05:07] <richard> thats it .... when you search
[05:07] <Agrajag> I find this when I search: wget - retrieves files from the web
[05:07] <Abst> Hmm
[05:08] <Abst> Just got gwget
[05:08] <Abst> Its a graphical download manager
[05:08] <longwave> bear: you can have at least 4 keys stored at once in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:08] <squeaks> i have multiple serverlayout's in my xorg.conf, i had been (in previous linux distros) logging in to at a text login, and running startx -- -layout CHOICE, but what i did in ubuntu was change rc2.d/ so that gdm does not run at runlevel 2, then i did startx -- -layout Multihead, then telinit 3, and i logged in again at the gdm login... What would be the best way?
[05:08] <Agrajag> anyway gwget looks like it's just a pnome frontend, so use that
[05:08] <Agrajag> er, gnome
[05:08] <longwave> bear: look in /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian for examples
[05:08] <ajhtiredwolf> Hello
[05:08] <eigenlambda> us.archive.ubuntu.com is down... lol...
[05:08] <zerojakel> hello
[05:08] <peteweez> anybody know of a clock for linux that displays decimal (french republican) time?
[05:08] <bear> pike_: I glanced at the file let me look at it again
[05:08] <Abst> No one knows a email client that will be always on in the background and alert me when new mail is in?
[05:08] <eigenlambda> peteweez: lol!
[05:09] <squeaks> i could find many guides on setting up serverlayout's in xorg.conf, but nothing mentioning how to pick which serverlayout is used
[05:09] <bear> longwave: thanks let me take a look
[05:09] <jolt> Got another one for you all.. I have a generic USB audio class device... how do i force Ubuntu to reconize it as an option
[05:09] <eigenlambda> french revolutionary time
[05:09] <longwave> squeaks: can't you use gdm to start a different X server depending on the session you select?
[05:09] <richard> Abst: Thunderbird is good
[05:09] <jolt> It reconizes the mic from my logitech camera but not a headset
[05:09] <ajhtiredwolf>  I was thinking of installing ubuntu opposed to FC5, does ubuntu have good security features?
[05:09] <MagicFab> hi, is there a way to enable remote-desktop access (via VNC) on a machine via SSH (without the GUI tool in System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop) ?
[05:09] <Abst> richard: On windows it has an icon on the taskbar, will it have that in Linux?
[05:09] <peteweez> eigenlambda: what's so funny
[05:09] <richard> *goes to check
[05:10] <peteweez> eigenlambda: it'd just be funny to be able to say omg, it's 78 past 4!!!
[05:10] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, Security really depends on how you fix up the system - of course some systems comes pre-packed with more security in mind, Ubuntu server would most likely be more secure then the desktop version - but you can make the desktop version as secure as you want if you wish to play around with it.
[05:11] <Skuz`> oh great no audio in Quake 3
[05:11] <richard> Abst: you can minimise it - or put it in another workspace
[05:11] <Skuz`> anyone have any ideas as to what the cause might be
[05:11] <ajhtiredwolf> Justin: well I guess my question should be then, is it about as secure as Fedora core 5
[05:11] <zerojakel> Skuz`: install alsa-oss
[05:11] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, Yes
[05:11] <Skuz`> zerojakel, okay
[05:11] <Abst> richard: yeah but I usually use all 4 workspaces - I want it like Gaim when you've got no windows open. I'll check synaptic.
[05:11] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, identically configured, they are identically secure
[05:11] <ladydoor> Abst: there're utilities to check your mail, and even an evolution plugin to notify you (i think)
[05:12] <Skuz`> zerojakel,  any configuration needed after that?
[05:12] <Abst> ladydoor: Utilities I have to download?
[05:12] <ladydoor> Abst: possibly
[05:12] <Abst> Kay ill check
[05:12] <ladydoor> i know that mailutils has one
[05:12] <ajhtiredwolf> Justin_: I've had about enough of fedora core, every time I try and ask for help in the forum or on their irc I just get someone with a bad aditude looking to just piss off people who dont know as much about Fedora as they do
[05:12] <ladydoor> Abst: and you might look for something under "evolution" and maybe under "thunderbird"
[05:13] <ajhtiredwolf> Justin_: so im looking for the best alternate solution to Fedora, while still being able to use linux.
[05:13] <ladydoor> !security
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <ladydoor> !best
[05:13] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:13] <orlock> ajhtiredwolf: heh, i get people that assume cos they dont understand the problem, its not an issue so i should stop whining
[05:13] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, Well Ubuntu is your solution especially if you want a supportive community - active and friendly forums, and IRC - and is as secure as the fedora core - if not more secure ;)
[05:14] <squeaks> longwave, do i setup gdm by editing /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm, or by running gdmsetup, or /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf-custom?
[05:14] <squeaks> or none of those 3?
[05:14] <angel12> hey guys, does anyone have an atmel card with ubuntu?
[05:14] <daMaestro> is the ati fglrx support out of box?
[05:14] <ajhtiredwolf> Justin_:excellent, also, do you know if it has good support for ati drivers? Because ive never been able to get them to work on Fedora
[05:14] <Abst> ladydoor: Is fetchmail what you mean?
[05:14] <longwave> squeaks: i think gdm.conf-custom is your best bet, though i haven't played around with gdm all that much
[05:14] <squeaks> ajhtiredwolf, i just switched from Fedora to ubuntu, and i like ubuntu thus far
[05:14] <Justin_> But then again security really is left up to the user after the base level, some users need more security for network - others for programs still others for e-mail etc - so it depends on what you want to do after you get the base, and of course there is plenty of software to build up the fortress you want to have :)
[05:14] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, the support is identical
[05:15] <ladydoor> Abst: fetchmail will get your mail, but won't notify you
[05:15] <Abst> Hmm
[05:15] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, the same binary ati drivers are used with ubuntu and fedora
[05:15] <StoneNote> the linux desktop is more secure than the windows desktop since most actions occur with a nonpriveleged userid.  everything in windows is usually done as an administrator (equal to root)  which is THE biggest hole besides IE
[05:15] <zerojakel> Skuz`: no nothing
[05:15] <orlock> Is anybody here running an nForce 430 based board?
[05:15] <Skuz`> zerojakel, okay i still have no sound in quake 3
[05:15] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, Well I am on Radeon and it works fine - if you mean the "flgrix" drivers.. well that is pretty much the same across the board - drivers are drivers really, but works fine for me.
[05:15] <daMaestro> Skuz`, set the audio to oss? from 'best'?
[05:15] <ajhtiredwolf> it cant be though can it? They use differnet kernels, and the kernel version im using seems to be the problem.
[05:16] <daMaestro> ajhtiredwolf, what kernel are you using?
[05:16] <ladydoor> Abst: you could use, say, GNU messages from GNU Mailutils to check your mail and write a script to notify you. or you could, again, check for an evolution or firefox plugin :-)
[05:16] <zerojakel> Skuz`: and alsa-oss?
[05:16] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, they don't use different kernels
[05:16] <ajhtiredwolf> but anyway... as long as I could at least get some help with installing them without someone pissing on me....
[05:16] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, where did you get that idea?
[05:16] <longwave> they *do* use slightly different kernels
[05:16] <Skuz`> daMaestro, what?
[05:16] <Justin_> sethk, Fedora's kernel is not the same as Ubuntu's
[05:16] <longwave> red hat and ubuntu patch the stock kernel with their own different sets of patches
[05:16] <Skuz`> all i did was install alsa-oss you said i didnt have to do anything else
[05:16] <kohr> ok,can i write to  ntfs from ubuntu
[05:16] <Justin_> It is the same kernel, but they are modified differently
[05:16] <Skuz`> kohr,  no
[05:16] <Skuz`> soon though
[05:16] <dasGewitte1> What is the latest version/release of Xscreensaver?
[05:16] <ajhtiredwolf> ok I understand now
[05:16] <daMaestro> Skuz`, i had to switch my sound system (in the q3 config) to use OSS not ALSA
[05:16] <sethk> Justin_, the particular kernel version for a distro release may be different, but that's hardly significant
[05:17] <Skuz`> daMaestro, how do i do that?
[05:17] <sethk> Justin_, and anybody who runs with ubuntu's distro kernel isn't paying attention
[05:17] <Justin_> sethk, Again config makes a difference
[05:17] <Skuz`> quake 3 isnt saving my config file
[05:17] <Skuz`> each time i run it i have to set it up again
[05:17] <ajhtiredwolf> can you use something similar to yum with ubuntu?
[05:17] <kohr> skuz, what filesystem can linux and windows both write to?
[05:17] <Skuz`> ajhtiredwolf, yes, apt
[05:17] <daMaestro> Skuz`, .quakeX or something
[05:17] <Skuz`> and its better
[05:17] <longwave> ajhtiredwolf: apt-get is like yum but better ;)
[05:17] <daMaestro> in your home dir
[05:17] <Skuz`> kohr, fat
[05:17] <Skuz`> maybe fat32, not sure though
[05:17] <ajhtiredwolf> alright, well when i first tried to isntall ubuntu
[05:17] <dasGewitte1> Skuz: Yes, fat32
[05:17] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, Ubuntu is linux.. anything that runs on Linux - will run on Ubuntu
[05:17] <ajhtiredwolf> it said there was a problem with x, and i wasnt able to
[05:17] <bear> longwave: so if I have more then 1 network I connect to all I need to do is  iface eth0 inet static
[05:17] <bear>     address 192.168.1.2
[05:17] <bear>     network 192.168.1.0
[05:17] <bear>     netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:17] <bear>     broadcast 192.168.1.255
[05:17] <bear>     wireless-essid Home
[05:17] <dasGewitte1> Skuz: External Hard drives use fat32
[05:17] <bear>     wireless-key  then reapeat for each network
[05:18] <longwave> !paste
[05:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:18] <sethk> it is true that the various distros often break the kernel, but then you install the real kernel from kernel.org and it's fixed
[05:18] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, You may have been lacking a lib
[05:18] <ladydoor> !paste > bear
[05:18] <kohr> skuz, ok thanks, bye
[05:18] <longwave> bear: i think you put wireless-key1 then wireless-key2 though i am not entirely sure
[05:18] <yggdrasil> does anyone here know of a web based thing like nukephp or xoops that is like a video gallery ?
[05:18] <longwave> bear: it may only work up to 4 keys at once, but you can always leave the other keys in that file but commented out - at least you won't have to retype them
[05:18] <ajhtiredwolf> alright well im gonna go ahead and install ubuntu, il get on here with my laptop. Thanks Justin_
[05:19] <ladydoor> kohr: FAT, and there are windowz drivers for ext2/3
[05:19] <rugbythomas> does anyone know why synaptic would say gcc is installed but terminal does not know the command gcc
[05:19] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, Nice - if you run into problems.. come back and ask away.. thats what everyone else does :))
[05:19] <ajhtiredwolf> hah thank you very much
[05:19] <ajhtiredwolf> \/
[05:19] <bear> but the ssid changes
[05:19] <Skuz`> seta snddevice "/dev/dsp"
[05:19] <Skuz`> is that an issue
[05:20] <ladydoor> rugbythomas: what're you trying to do with it?
[05:20] <rugbythomas> homework
[05:20] <nich0s> I am nich0s. Hear me roar.
[05:20] <ladydoor> rugbythomas: ok...
[05:20] <ladydoor> rugbythomas: do "which gcc"
[05:20] <rugbythomas> my make file works great at school but not home
[05:20] <Justin_> rugbythomas, You need to install "build essentials" in 6.06 dapper.
[05:20] <Justin_> Or else you will see GCC but it will not actually work
[05:21] <rugbythomas> 6.4.6
[05:21] <Justin_> sudo apt-get build-essentials and you should be fine
[05:21] <rugbythomas> 3.4.6
[05:21] <longwave> "sudo apt-get install build-essential" even :)
[05:21] <Justin_> longwave, yeah ;D
[05:21] <zerojakel> how install gcc 4.1?
[05:21] <Justin_> -s
[05:21] <Justin_> zerojakel, upgrade gcc :D
[05:21] <zerojakel> xDD
[05:21] <Justin_> If you want to do it the easy way
[05:22] <Justin_> I don't know if the reps have GCC 4.1 yet though
[05:22] <longwave> zerojakel: gcc-4.1 is only in edgy so far
[05:22] <rugbythomas> Password:
[05:22] <longwave> it probably won't be backported to dapper
[05:22] <zerojakel> ok
[05:22] <rugbythomas> E: Invalid operation build-essentials
[05:22] <rugbythomas> thomas@thomas-desktop:~$
[05:22] <sethk> Justin_, if you see gcc, it will work, but you mean that he needs other supporting programs
[05:22] <nich0s> rugbythomas, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[05:23] <bear> longwave: but how does it know which key goes wth which ssid
[05:23] <Justin_> sethk, Yeah well I had the same problem - said that GCC was installed, but did not actually work - sudo apt-get build-essential fixed that
[05:23] <rugbythomas> thanks
[05:23] <longwave> bear: when there are four keys i think it just uses any one of the four
[05:23] <sethk> Justin_, if you compile something with gcc, yourself, you'll see that gcc works perfectly.  You needed more than gcc for whatever you were trying to do.
[05:23] <longwave> bear: i imagine there must be some kind of better network manager for people in your situation...
[05:23] <bear> longwave: no matter what the ssid is?  crazy
[05:23] <Justin_> When is edgy to be officially released again?
[05:24] <dasGewitte1> October 25 or so
[05:24] <longwave> bear: no, you can only specify one ssid as far as i can see
[05:24] <dasGewitte1> you can find official release dates on Ubuntu's website
[05:24] <longwave> bear: if you list more than one i think it will only use the last one you list
[05:24] <Justin_> I see... I hope it's good because dapper is perfection.. well minus not having GCC by default..
[05:24] <bear> longwave: and now we're back to my original question does anyone know of a better network manager
[05:24] <zerojakel> yes 25 october
[05:25] <rugbythomas> my school has 4,1 up and running
[05:25] <ross> Hey everyone....I was wondering if anyone could help me configure my laptop with ubuntu wirelessly
[05:25] <JoseStefan> knot 2 should be out Thurs
[05:25] <bear> ross: what where are you at
[05:26] <jolt> Hopes the live install isnt broken on knot 2
[05:26] <rugbythomas> does anyone know what it takes to get Konsole to run in KDevelop
[05:26] <ladydoor> Justin_: ubuntu's always been that way, so far as i know...i seem to remember having to install build-essential before
[05:26] <Abst> If I installed KDE can I fully uninstall it and go back to Gnome?
[05:26] <Justin_> ladydoor, 5 had it on mine
[05:26] <Justin_> abst, sure
[05:27] <ladydoor> Abst: install ubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <ladydoor> Abst: then
[05:27] <Justin_> Abst, Why would you not be able to?
[05:27] <ladydoor> Abst: look at the dependencies for kubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <vanderley> I cant configure my keyboard, how can I do it: my pc is a Laptop Compac Presario
[05:27] <Abst> Justin_: I'm a newbie and I don't like reformatting so I just make sure..
[05:27] <Abst> Hehe
[05:27] <sethk> Abst, sure, but why bother to uninstall it.  if you don't want to run it, then don't run it
[05:27] <ladydoor> Abst: and uninstall any of them whose removal doesn't conflict with having ubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <ajhtiredwolf> Alright, well I selected to install ubuntu in graphical safe mode... and after it got past the little loading bar loading drivers and or what not, the screen just went blank
[05:27] <Justin_> But KDE is bad.. - fair warning
[05:27] <Justin_> I stick with my XFCE :D
[05:28] <ross> BEAR: what do you mean? what and where?
[05:28] <Abst> XFCE?
[05:28] <ladydoor> Justin_: let's not start a window-manager war
[05:28] <Justin_> Abst, yes :)
[05:28] <vanderley> how can I configre my keyboad:
[05:28] <ladydoor> Abst: it's another desktop environment
[05:28] <Abst> Link?
[05:28] <ladydoor> !xfce
[05:28] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <sethk> KDE is _not_ bad.
[05:28] <JoseStefan> CLI for teh win!
[05:28] <Abst> See what ladydoor said
[05:28] <zerojakel> a question somebody has a terminator card TV of kworld
[05:28] <bear> ross: sorry, you need help with a wireless connection
[05:28] <Justin_> ladydoor, No war ?? - it's all about choice, I do not care if people want to run KDE - I am just warning that it is bad ---- unless you love your ram being sucked
[05:28] <zerojakel> 
[05:28] <ross> bear: yeah
[05:28] <Abst> Haha
[05:28] <bear> ross: do you have drivers installed
[05:28] <sethk> it's entirely a matter of preference.  kde has some significant features that the other desktops don't have.  That's not to say it's better, just that it is different, but it certainly isn't "bad"
[05:29] <Justin_> sethk, Sure it's not - creating a software registry is not bad of course not
[05:29] <ajhtiredwolf> KDE does look very pretty thogh hah
[05:29] <Abst> KDE is more like windows from pictures
[05:29] <ross> my ubunu isnt recognizing my built in ethernet card
[05:29] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, It is pretty :)
[05:29] <Justin_> I simply like to keep my ram for other ubuntu stuff :P
[05:29] <ross> bear: idk anything about the drivers for it...im a noob
[05:29] <sethk> Justin_, don't voice opinions when you don't understand the issues
[05:29] <digivore> can anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?
[05:29] <Justin_> sethk, Who are you? - a KDE developer:?
[05:29] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, kde is an excellent piece of work
[05:29] <bear> ross: what kind of card do have
[05:29] <ajhtiredwolf> Justin_: That is very true... but I have 2gb of ram lol so...
[05:29] <sethk> Justin_, no, I write kernels and device drivers
[05:29] <Justin_> I know about KDE very well thank you very much.
[05:29] <Skuz`> how do i change my sound to use oss in q3 instead of alsa?
[05:30] <ross> bear: idk its built in
[05:30] <sethk> Justin_, obviously not, if you say it's "bad", that's just ignorant
[05:30] <Justin_> sethk, Whatever stick to KDE - enjoy the registry
[05:30] <Sean> HELLO!
[05:30] <sethk> Justin_, I don't use a registry, but you can keep your illusions if you like
[05:30] <Abst> HEY!
[05:30] <ajhtiredwolf> alright, so im trying to install ubuntu right? But its not working
[05:30] <ross> im in gnome
[05:30] <Justin_> lol.. @ illusions
[05:30] <rugbythomas> is there anyway to make a custom run cd based on the way I have ubuntu set up right now, so that I could take a cd/dvd to a friends computer and do make work there
[05:30] <bear> ross: do this open a terminal and type in sudo lshw    this will list all the hardware install on your computer
[05:31] <sethk> you're right, I should have said delusions
[05:31] <zerojakel> I need to fit a remote control of a terminator TV
[05:31] <ross> ok hold on
[05:31] <bear> ross: look for your network cards I assume you'll have 2
[05:31] <dasGewitte1> rugbythomas: it is possible to make an image of your machine, yes.
[05:31] <ajhtiredwolf> anyone heh?
[05:31] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, what's happening?
[05:31] <ladydoor> !anyone
[05:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:31] <ross> bear: ok I have the list
[05:32] <ajhtiredwolf> I did ask my question...
[05:32] <ajhtiredwolf> im trying to install ubuntu and it isnt working, when i try and install it in graphical safe mode
[05:32] <ajhtiredwolf> it doesnt work, it just goes blank on the screen
[05:32] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf: try booting into the livecd instead of to safe mode
[05:32] <ross> bear: im not sure how to tell
[05:32] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf: the livecd has an installer on it
[05:32] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, or you can try the text mode install from the alternate cd
[05:32] <Jenga> hey. how do I open ports for faster torrent downloads?
[05:32] <wikijeff> According to Synaptic I have OpenOffice Equation editor installed, but I can't add or find it in the application menu, anyone know why??
[05:32] <ajhtiredwolf> alright well hold mabe this will give insite
[05:33] <ajhtiredwolf> I just tried to isntall it regularly
[05:33] <ladydoor> wikijeff: try this:  killall gnome-panel
[05:33] <sethk> wikijeff, it's more or less a plug in.  you can access it from oowriter
[05:33] <NickGarvey> can you move an ext3 partition?
[05:33] <ladydoor> wikijeff: which will restart it
[05:33] <bear> ross: look for the word network
[05:33] <ladydoor> wikijeff: nm what i said then
[05:33] <ross> ok
[05:33] <ajhtiredwolf> and I get this error message: failed to start the X server ( your graphical interface). It is like that it is not set up correctly woudl you like to view the x server output?
[05:33] <Abst> !xserver
[05:33] <zerojakel> ajhtiredwolf: that grafica card you have
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <verbose> in bash how do i generate number 1 through 99 i thought i could do it with tr, but can't find it
[05:33] <Abst> !xwindows
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Sean> !xwindows
[05:33] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, Did you change your driver?
[05:33] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf: is this booting into the livecd or booting into the safe mode?
[05:33] <Sean> !sex
[05:33] <Ashex> ACTION sexes Sean
[05:34] <wikijeff> sethk: thanks
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, do the text mode install, it's easier than trying to troubleshoot this during the install process.
[05:34] <ladydoor> !x
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Sean>  * Ashex sexes Sean
[05:34] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:34] <Abst> !your mum
[05:34] <longwave> wikijeff: the equation editor is a plugin for the various apps - open openoffice writer and go to insert > object > formula
[05:34] <bear> ross: mine says network  discription wireless interface
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your mum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <ajhtiredwolf> Justin_: what do oyu mean? I havent installed yet lol
[05:34] <Sean> !MYDICK
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MYDICK - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <ladydoor> let's not abuse the bot...
[05:34] <Sean> !CUNT
[05:34] <JoseStefan> !botabus
[05:34] <longwave> !ops
[05:34] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, Ahhh ok ok - I thought you had installed ;) - try a text install then
[05:34] <JoseStefan> !botabuse
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CUNT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Sean> !pussy
[05:34] <ladydoor> Sean: ok, that's immature
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botabus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Sean> !vaginta
[05:34] <jolt> *eyeroll*
[05:34] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:34] <Abst> Calm down Sean
[05:34] <Abst> Hehe
[05:34] <ajhtiredwolf> Justin_: How do I do that?
[05:34] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pussy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <jolt> Captain i think we got a kid...
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vaginta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <JoseStefan> !botabuse > Sean
[05:34] <Justin_> Sean, Enough with the childish stuff..
[05:34] <ladydoor> seriously
[05:34] <Abst> Hes gone
[05:34] <DBO> hes gone
[05:35] <sethk> gee, too bad  :)
[05:35] <ladydoor> plus, it's not just men here
[05:35] <ladydoor> oh
[05:35] <ross> bear: there are a few networks, but the only one with a description is the ethernet controller
[05:35] <ladydoor> good
[05:35] <sethk> ladydoor, he couldn't even spell it  :)
[05:35] <angel12> when i activate my wireless, should it be looking for an ip from 255.255.255.255 or my router's ip?
[05:35] <ladydoor> sethk: *sigh*
[05:35] <verbose> angel12: dhcp sends out a request to 255.255.255.255
[05:35] <sethk> angel12, all 255's is a broadcast
[05:35] <verbose> it's the broadcast address
[05:35] <ajhtiredwolf> Justin_: ow do I install in text mode?
[05:35] <ladydoor> sethk: it's still annoying
[05:35] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, I believe you need to download the actual text install CD - I think dapper only has LIVE-install by default
[05:35] <verbose> because it doesn't yet know your router's address
[05:36] <sethk> ladydoor, oh, I agree
[05:36] <JoseStefan> ajhtiredwolf, alternate CD
[05:36] <ladydoor> sethk: and it didn't help that he started off with...more offensive words
[05:36] <Justin_> ajhtiredwolf, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179056 <-- same question
[05:36] <angel12> well, its not getting an ip from my router. but my other ubuntu box works just fine
[05:36] <sethk> ladydoor, no argument
[05:36] <Abst> What is your favourite piece of software?
[05:36] <ladydoor> Abst: ratpoison, gnu screen, emacs, & conkeror are tied :-)
[05:36] <JoseStefan> Abst, does the bios count
[05:37] <Justin_> well be back in a bit - :)
[05:37] <verbose> angel12: check the cable, try setting the ip manually and see if you can communicate, make sure the driver is loaded properly for the card, if it's a kernel module or something
[05:37] <sethk> angel12, that's odd, but the initial broadcast isn't the problem
[05:37] <Abst> JoseStefan: Afraid not
[05:37] <jolt> Heh i remember the days when screen was considered multitasking over dialup
[05:37] <CSWookie> Screen is multitasking.
[05:37] <CSWookie> Screen is the best window manager ever.
[05:38] <jolt> Not when you can xterm
[05:38] <verbose> jolt: ?
[05:38] <CSWookie> Xtrem < screen.
[05:38] <ross> Is anyone here know how to configure ubuntu wirelessly?
[05:38] <ajhtiredwolf> Ok well, if I install the alternate cd in text mode. It may work... but won't X still not work once its install?
[05:38] <verbose> how about screen in xterm?
[05:38] <verbose> ooooh
[05:38] <CSWookie> s/xtrem/xterm/
[05:38] <ladydoor> jolt: aha, but can you copy/past in an xterm w/o using the mouse? i think not
[05:38] <JoseStefan> ajhtiredwolf, good point
[05:38] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, probably not
[05:38] <ladydoor> *paste
[05:38] <jolt> True..
[05:38] <Abst> ladydoor: There can only be one?
[05:38] <jolt> screen wins on the accessability front
[05:38] <angel12> verbose, its a wireless, and atme;
[05:38] <CSWookie> verbose: Nah.  I never use my linux computer directly.  I putty there from windows.
[05:39] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, often you can provide enough assistance during installation that it will run X at the end of the process
[05:39] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, what's your video hardware?
[05:39] <JoseStefan> CSWookie, what's the latest putty version?
[05:39] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: X800GTO Connect 3d
[05:39] <Abst> What does ratpoison do
[05:39] <CSWookie> JoseStefan: I don't know.
[05:39] <ladydoor> Abst: with a capital ONE
[05:39] <ladydoor> :-)
[05:39] <verbose> CSWookie: no x11 forwarding?
[05:39] <Flannel> Abst: ratpoison is a WM, that doesn't require a mouse
[05:39] <Abst> Oh
[05:40] <Abst> I'll be deleting that then
[05:40] <CSWookie> Only when I need to use gnucash.
[05:40] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: right now im at ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ it brought me there after the x server error came up and i looked at the error log
[05:40] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, If it can work with fedora, it can work with ubuntu.  it's exactly the same software
[05:40] <Abst> Konkeror?
[05:40] <ladydoor> Abst: nongnu.org/ratpoison
[05:40] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: but... its not lol
[05:40] <CSWookie> ratpoison is the WM I have on my linux box.
[05:40] <verbose> haha
[05:40] <verbose> nice
[05:40] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, I thought you had been using fedora
[05:40] <verbose> keyboard warrior
[05:41] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: yes... i dont doubt that it CAN work.. but I dont know HOW to make it work. Yes I was using fedora, and it was working.
[05:41] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, if you've completed the install, try  (as root) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:41] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: nahh, i havent even begun the install
[05:41] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, you can copy the xorg.conf file from fedora to ubuntu, if you still have it.
[05:41] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: it should be on the hard disk yes
[05:41] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, yes, in /etc/X11
[05:42] <nownott> ok heres the situation i have xp pro on one partition and ubuntu on the same hd but different partition, i have vmware installed on ubuntu and i want to boot windows, but i get a blue screen of death right after the windows splash screen
[05:42] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: but that xorg.conf file is incorrect and was giving me problems.. which is a big reason im trying to use ubuntu in the first place
[05:42] <CSWookie> I'd probably put linux on my laptop, but I'm a web developer.  I have to be able to see what the thing looks like in IE.
[05:42] <wsg> OK, wow, just tried Ubuntu 6.06 DVD release, sucks how to discover the new Gnome ability's
[05:42] <Abst> nownott: #windows
[05:42] <Mukunda> I just installed some updates today, and it has killed compiz, is this a known issue? Metacity still works fine.
[05:42] <burritoortega> CSWookie: you can install internet explorer on linux via wine
[05:42] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, unlikely that switching to ubuntu will solve your problem
[05:42] <wikijeff> What's the best way to create math related document, containing things like matrices and vectors, on ubuntu??
[05:42] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, use the xorg.conf file as documentation, then
[05:42] <burritoortega> CSWookie: i have it, it was easy with winetools
[05:42] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, and use the program I gave you a few minutes ago to configure X
[05:43] <ladydoor> CSWookie: aren't there utils for that? also, you could always put a thing on your page being like "look weird? install a non-sucky, free browser, like firefox!"
[05:43] <Flannel> CSWookie: look into 'ies4lin' it's IE5 5.5 and 6, for leeenux
[05:43] <ergo> does anyone know how to configure the system to input japanese and chinese characters?
[05:43] <nownott> so that is my only option is to depend on #windows?
[05:43] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: program? which program?
[05:43] <Abst> Well its a windows problem
[05:43] <wsg> Anyone got screenshots of the new gnome in action ?
[05:43] <ladydoor> !patience
[05:43] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:43] <Abst> Not a linux one
[05:43] <CSWookie> Hmm.  Now ubunt sounds more atractive.  You're saying that it made installing IE easy?
[05:43] <sethk> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:43] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf,   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:43] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, obviously after you've done a text mode install
[05:43] <StoneNote> nownott, did you create a windows virtual appliance in vmware that is getting a blue screen OR are you pointing vmware to your windows partition and getting the blue screen?
[05:43] <Flannel> CSWookie: yeah, look into it.  They come with a preconfigured wine script, or something like that.  Using the evolt standalones, as far as I'm aware
[05:43] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, I've never tried it with the live cd,
[05:43] <nownott> well have you heard of anyone using vmware to boot a windows partition that already has data on it, not a clean install
[05:44] <StoneNote> nownott, no
[05:44] <ajhtiredwolf> this seems strange... x not working enough for it to install
[05:44] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, yes, it's a bit unusual
[05:44] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, but that's why there is a text mode install (as there is in fedora)
[05:44] <wsg> Anyone got URL'sto the new gnome "screenshots" ?
[05:45] <CSWookie> Debian is loading...
[05:45] <ladydoor> wsg: http://www.gnome.org/
[05:45] <JoseStefan> edgy should have both installers on one disc
[05:45] <StoneNote> nownott, after you setup vmware under ubuntu, you can load virtual machines you download off the vmware site or other places or create your own.  but an os on another parition is NOT a vmware virtual machine
[05:45] <bruenig> http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=screenshots/gnome214/LatestGnome214Beta.jpg
[05:45] <Flannel> JoseStefan: theyre completely incompatable
[05:45] <burritoortega> i have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do?
[05:46] <ajhtiredwolf> ah screw it... ive been at this for months now. I guess it just must be my graphics card, it simply won work with linux
[05:46] <JoseStefan> Flannel: i know, but there must be a way
[05:46] <Flannel> JoseStefan: double the size of the CD ;)
[05:46] <ladydoor> burritoortega: you need to do sudo umount /path/to/mount/point
[05:46] <wsg> dont see screenshots there ?
[05:46] <ladydoor> burritoortega: and then try gksudo gparted
[05:46] <burritoortega> i did unmount it
[05:46] <JoseStefan> Flannel: in that case, the DVD does that, i think
[05:46] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, you aren't going to fix it by changing distributions, unless one might have a newer X release than another
[05:46] <burritoortega> but then it doesn't "see" it
[05:46] <nownott> StoneNote: is there another program that might let me do this
[05:47] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, generally fedora is quite good with X configuration.
[05:47] <ladydoor> burritoortega: you may have to point it to /dev/sda
[05:47] <Abst> WSG: (05:45:59) bruenig: http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=screenshots/gnome214/LatestGnome214Beta.jpg
[05:47] <burritoortega> ladydoor: how do i do that exactly?
[05:47] <ladydoor> or do mkfs /dev/sda
[05:47] <bruenig> that might not be the latest but that is what it was named. Perhaps at the time it was named it was the latest
[05:47] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: I was going to use ubuntu because no one in fedora will help you, they are just a bunch of punks over there. But im done, just done. Its not going to work
[05:47] <ladydoor> burritoortega: i don't know. look for an option to add an fs
[05:47] <burritoortega> ladydoor: i already did mkfs -t msdos /dev/sda
[05:47] <StoneNote> nownott, not that I know of.  there might be a forum at vmware you can ask that question at.
[05:47] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, it may, I've fixed a lot of bizarre X problems over the years.
[05:47] <ladydoor> burritoortega: while it was unmounted?
[05:47] <burritoortega> nope, mounted
[05:48] <wesley> does network-manager work with ndiswrapper?
[05:48] <wsg> Abst sweet, nice mac style look, there more on that area ?
[05:48] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, if the issue is configuration and you can get more help for one than another, that's a rational reason to try another distro
[05:48] <burritoortega> ladydoor: is it the same if i unmount it via gui?
[05:48] <Abst> wsg: Ask bruenig, I just pasted it
[05:48] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, but buying another graphics card is a lot less stressful
[05:48] <ladydoor> wesley: you can't configure ndiswrapper from it, but you can bring up the connection that ndiswrapper presents
[05:48] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: its just ive been at this for a very ... very long time. And I dont know enough about it to fix it. And I dont have the money for another card so, im just going to stick with windows I guess, much as I hate it.
[05:48] <wesley> ladydoor: thanks.  I can't get it working since I updated from 510
[05:48] <bruenig> wsg, that has a lot of modifications done to it. If you want the base look of it, might want to try to find something else
[05:49] <ladydoor> burritoortega: i don't know, i don't usually use gui tools if i can avoid it
[05:49] <bruenig> google tends to do well with me
[05:49] <nigel> I need someone here who had knowledge of wireless networking...
[05:49] <nigel> has*
[05:49] <Abst> !ladydoor
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ladydoor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <burritoortega> kq@dapper:~$ mkfs -t msdos /dev/sda
[05:49] <burritoortega> mkfs.msdos 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[05:49] <burritoortega> mkfs.msdos: unable to open /dev/sda
[05:49] <ladydoor> Abst: eh?
[05:49] <Hexidigital> nigel::  what's the problem?
[05:49] <eliran> don't know
[05:49] <burritoortega> ladydoor: that's what i did
[05:49] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, best we can do here is try to help you configure it, and it appears the text mode install is your best option at this point.  but I can understand if you don't want to deal with it.
[05:49] <burritoortega> ladydoor: after umounting it
[05:49] <nigel> hex: When I start to tax my internet connection , which is over the wireless , the connection goes down..
[05:50] <ladydoor> wesley: hmmm...ndiswrapper -l say "driver present, hardware present" or whatever?
[05:50] <nigel> hex : And I'll have to disconnect the adapter , and reconnect , as the fastest way to get it back up..
[05:50] <wsg> bruenig yea, I know, I have OSX running on a INTEL PC, be nice to get Linux with the look, linux provides better "Support" but OSX is nice to try .
[05:50] <Hexidigital> nigel::  anything particular throwing it off?
[05:50] <ladydoor> burritoortega: is it maybe /dev/sda1? that's what it is on mine (but i don't know)
[05:50] <wesley> yeah
[05:50] <ajhtiredwolf> sethk: i'll give the text mode a shot, but im guessing x isnt going to work once its installed, and I have NO idea how to configure it, and i haven't been able to get any good help thus far, but i'll work on it tomorrow, for now sleep
[05:50] <ajhtiredwolf> thanks anyway
[05:50] <nigel> hex: Downloads the majority of the time , but earlier uploads threw it off too...
[05:50] <Abst> Where is the default web dir for apache?
[05:50] <wesley> ladydoor: i can bring it up with iwconfig/ifup
[05:50] <nigel> hex : extremely annoying..
[05:50] <ergo> does anyone know how to configure  DAPPER to input japanese and chinese characters?
[05:51] <Hexidigital> nigel::  what type of connection? cable/dsl?
[05:51] <nigel> dsl
[05:51] <Abst> "edubuntu
[05:51] <nigel> 256 down , 128 up
[05:51] <Abst> !edubuntu
[05:51] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[05:51] <ladydoor> wesley: hmmm...did you do ndiswrapper -m?
[05:51] <ladydoor> wesley: (sudo)
[05:51] <wesley> ladydoor: i remove the entries from /etc/network/interfaces and restart dbus and it detects it but won't go
[05:51] <bruenig> wsg, check out dreamlinux. Looks nearly identical http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-screen.html
[05:51] <ladydoor> wesley: oh. huh
[05:51] <ladydoor> :-(
[05:52] <Brokenstein> hi what do i need for quicktime to work in firefox?
[05:52] <nigel> hex : any idea of what the problem may be ?
[05:52] <wesley> ladydoor: does it use dhcdbd?  I've got some errors in my logs
[05:52] <StoneNote> ergo, check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_type_extended_characters
[05:52] <Hexidigital> nigel::  i dunno man.. that's out of my "turf".... i am better with hardware wireless config
[05:52] <nigel> hex : hmm..
[05:52] <ladydoor> wesley: sorry...i've got nothing
[05:52] <Hexidigital> nigel::  sorry
[05:52] <nigel> hex : Thanks for the effort though
[05:52] <burritoortega> ladydoor: mkfs.msdos: unable to open /dev/sda1
[05:52] <nigel> hex : ;)
[05:52] <wesley> ladydoor: ok thx anyway
[05:52] <ladydoor> burritoortega: are you sudoing? sorry, i'm kind of making this up as i go along
[05:52] <sethk> nigel, when you say goes down, do you mean that literally?  when you do ifconfig, it doesn't show the interface?
[05:52] <ladydoor> wesley: :-/
[05:53] <burritoortega> ladydoor: i tried with and without sudo
[05:53] <nigel> Yes , doesn't show any connection..
[05:53] <angel12> anyone have an atmel card in dapper?
[05:53] <ladydoor> burritoortega: oh...hm. Have you tried the livecd?
[05:53] <wsg> bruenig "sweet" like to install Ubuntu with that look.
[05:53] <ladydoor> burritoortega: you can get it off their site
[05:53] <ergo> ok thanks a lot ..going to check it out now
[05:53] <burritoortega> ladydoor: nope, but that shouldn't change anything, should it?
[05:53] <nigel> hex : you know of any third party programs that may be able to help me sustain a connection ?
[05:53] <ladydoor> burritoortega: other than that i haven't the foggiest...sorry
[05:53] <burritoortega> ladydoor: thanks anyway
[05:53] <ladydoor> burritoortega: i don't know. probably not
[05:54] <ladydoor> burritoortega: sorry :-/
[05:54] <burritoortega> i have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do?
[05:54] <bruenig> wsg, if you do like dreamlinux I would caution you in using it as a lot of the documentation is in portugeese
[05:54] <Hexidigital> nigel::  are you using gnome?
[05:54] <nigel> hex : yep
[05:54] <bruenig> wsg, oh yeah, that would take quite a bit of work
[05:54] <Hexidigital> nigel::  press tab after typing hex, so i can see a highlighted message, please :)
[05:54] <dcstimm_> hey guys, How do I burn the x86 and ppc isos to one disk so I dont have to carry around two?
[05:54] <nigel> oh , didn't know that lol , thanks
[05:55] <jbroome> dcstimm_: they won't fit
[05:55] <nigel> hex : works ?
[05:55] <bruenig> dcstimm_, I assume you have a dvd?
[05:55] <Hexidigital> nigel::  if you dont mind downloading some KDE libraries, you can sudo apt-get install wireless-assistant
[05:55] <dcstimm_> jbroome, I modified them so they are 200mb
[05:55] <nigel> I have that..
[05:55] <nigel> I have kde and xfce installed also..
[05:55] <wsg> bruening gdesklette's ? "osx" theme ? wonder if there would be a way to import that "toolbar" into ubuntu ?
[05:55] <Hexidigital> !tab > nigel
[05:55] <burritoortega> i have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do ?
[05:55] <Abst> !you
[05:55] <DammitCoetzee> hammer
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <DammitCoetzee> i fix all my file system errors with a hammer
[05:55] <Flannel> burritoortega: unmount it first
[05:55] <bruenig> wsg, that is xfce, ubuntu uses gnome, you could use gdesklets if you want for the dock but it won't look as polished as that
[05:56] <Flannel> burritoortega: that's probably why gparted is having issues too
[05:56] <burritoortega> Flannel: when i unmount it, it doesn't "see it"
[05:56] <nigel> Hexidigital: oh , i see..
[05:56] <nigel> Is that what your looking for ?
[05:56] <Hexidigital> nigel::  wireless-assistant may be able to keep your connection up... or it may be interfering with another wireless program
[05:56] <wsg> bruenig this looks sweet ?  http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=screenshots/gnome214/CompizCubeEffect.png
[05:56] <yggdrasil> does anyone here know of a web based thing like nukephp or xoops that is like a video gallery ?
[05:57] <bruenig> wsg, xgl and compiz, that is a headache
[05:57] <nigel> Hexidigital: well , I can use it to reconnect , but on the other hand , it runs slowly and takes a while to put settings into place..
[05:57] <dcstimm_> bruenig, any idea?
[05:57] <yggdrasil> where i can just upload my video files .. kind of like a photo gallery
[05:57] <Hexidigital> nigel::  did you edit your /etc/network/interfaces file at all?
[05:57] <nigel> No.
[05:57] <nigel> Hexidigital: No.
[05:57] <bruenig> dcstimm_, I couldn't think of a way to do it without modifying each of them so that you are given some sort of prompt allowing you to choose between them which I certainly don't know how you would do that
[05:57] <Hexidigital> !paste > nigel
[05:57] <Hexidigital> nigel::  pastebin your /etc/network/interface file for me
[05:57] <burritoortega> Flannel: mkfs.msdos: unable to open /dev/sda
[05:58] <burritoortega> Flannel: that's after unmounting it
[05:58] <Hexidigital> nigel::  post the link when you are done
[05:58] <dcstimm_> bruenig, well thats not needed, I just need two sessions
[05:58] <nigel> Hexidigital: ok
[05:58] <wsg> brueniig that "3D" effect is supposed to be a part of the New Gnome ?
[05:58] <Lard-O-Lad> How can i use the DOM inspector for firefox with ubuntu?
[05:58] <dcstimm_> bruenig, pcs boot of the last session, and on mac it boots off hfs/iso hybrid only, so it will detect it
[05:58] <nigel> Hexidigital: Can't we have a private chatroom ?
[05:58] <Hexidigital> nigel::  sure, pm me
[05:59] <dcstimm_> bruenig, so if I can figure out multisession burning, I think it would work
[05:59] <bruenig> oh because the cd isn't writable after it I got you
[05:59] <burritoortega> i have a usb stick, and the filesystem seems corrupted, so i have to reformat it... problem is gparted can't do it (i get "error" without description), and i can't do it with mkfs either (i get "/dev/sda contains a mounted file system")... what should i do?
[05:59] <ladydoor> !repeat
[05:59] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:00] <wsg> How do you configure that "3D" look in gnome ?
[06:00] <bruenig> wsg, that is compiz, that is a seperate thing from gnome altogether perhaps it will be integrated into the next gnome, kind of doubt it
[06:00] <burritoortega> !patience
[06:00] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:00] <bruenig> !xgl
[06:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:00] <Hexidigital> nigel::  i sent you a PM
[06:00] <jman8888> Is there some kind of Cd Label maker for Ubuntu?
[06:00] <bruenig> wsg, use that link but be really careful, you could mess a lot up
[06:00] <nigel> Hexidigital: Yeah , but I need to register..
[06:00] <Hexidigital> ah
[06:01] <Hexidigital> !register > nigel
[06:01] <Hexidigital> nigel::  join #hexidigital
[06:01] <bruenig> assuming of course if you are really good
[06:01] <nigel> Hexidigital: thanks
[06:02] <jman8888> bruenig, But i already have a Cd label thing with Areas for stuff to go to. Labelmaker labels.
[06:02] <wsg> bruenig "Linux Pro Magazine" shows it as part of Gnome and part of the Dapper Release, Includes the Dapper Drake ubuntu on a DVD for you... So I got to disagree, they say it's in Gnome now
[06:02] <bruenig> wsg, ok well then why aren't you doing it
[06:02] <bruenig> since it is in there do it
[06:03] <burritoortega> who asked about labels?
[06:03] <bruenig> do the compiz cube that is integrated into gnome
[06:03] <bruenig> apparently
[06:03] <jman8888> burritoortega, Me...
[06:03] <dcstimm_> Anyone know how ubuntu sees the volume names of different drives that are plugged in?  For example I have a firewire hfsplus formatted harddrive and it knows the name of it, but I cant find any command line tools that tell me the same
[06:03] <burritoortega> jman8888: http://glabels.sourceforge.net/
[06:03] <wsg> bruening, dont see a "Tool" package... config manager ?
[06:03] <burritoortega> jman8888: http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm
[06:03] <burritoortega> jman8888: http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/downloads/labels/
[06:04] <Brokenstein> can anybody help me get quiktime working in firefox? i uninstalled all vlc and got mozilla-mplayer but still no go
[06:04] <bruenig> wsg, perhaps because it doesn't exist by default, you need to add things but you already are certain it is integrated which since it is, all of those people who wrote that guide must be retarded, I mean you wouldn't write a guide to do something that already exists by default
[06:04] <burritoortega> jman8888: i got them from this article mostly http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/04/1651234
[06:04] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: it uses the gnome-volume-manager. and you might try "less /etc/fstab" for a start :-)
[06:05] <wsg> whats "Gnome version in Dapper " ?
[06:05] <dcstimm_> ladydoor, ok, but if I am not running gnome will the volume manager work in the command line?
[06:05] <ladydoor> wsg: you can see it in synaptic
[06:05] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: try less /etc/fstab for a start
[06:05] <burritoortega> jman8888: did you find them useful?
[06:05] <wsg> ladydoor have not installed "dapper yet"
[06:05] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: another option for things you plug in could be dmsg | tail
[06:05] <dcstimm_> ladydoor, i know how fstab work, but when I am not in the gui and I mount a volume I cant see the name of it
[06:05] <waseda> hi
[06:05] <bruenig> 2.12 something or other
[06:05] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: after you plug them in
[06:06] <jman8888> burritoortega, Yes, But im not sure if they will work with my labels.
[06:06] <Megaqwerty> How do I add folders and programs to those folders under applications?
[06:06] <dcstimm_> ladydoor, that still doesnt show me the volume name, it shows me sda or what device name it has
[06:06] <jman8888> About to try
[06:06] <_priest> Megaqwerty: apt-get install alacarte
[06:06] <bruenig> I suppose you are advocating compiling your own gnome?
[06:06] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[06:06] <waseda> now everything becomes "Read-only file system" with normal user, how can i do?
[06:06] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: ah. well, i'im not sure what you're talking about then. sorry
[06:06] <wsg> Linux pro Magazine "page 49" article on Gnome 2.16 and 2.14" says "3D" in in the release"
[06:06] <burritoortega> jman8888: well they seem to be the best in label-making for linux, if you can't use them you're pretty much screwed
[06:06] <dcstimm_> ladydoor, so for example if I have a drive called "Bob's Backup Drive"  How do I find that info out?
[06:06] <Amaranth> _priest: All Ubuntu systems who have alacarte available have it installed by default.
[06:07] <_priest> Amaranth: ah
[06:07] <wsg> whats current version of Gnome in Dapper
[06:07] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: yeah...sorry. i really don't know :-(
[06:07] <dcstimm_> ladydoor, plugg that drive into macosx it mounts it as Bob's Backup Drive, and the same with ubuntu, but if I mount that drive manually I cant find that information
[06:07] <ladydoor> wsg: look at the gnome package in synaptic. as i said, it'll tell you.
[06:07] <_priest> Amaranth: never really messed with gnome, use fvwm mostly ;)
[06:07] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: right, and i don't know where to find it. i'm sorry
[06:07] <CSWookie> Ah.  IRC in a civilized way.
[06:07] <angel12> well i guess atmel is broken in dapper. maybe i will come back with edgy
[06:08] <sethk> _priest, you can use fvwm with ubuntu if you wish.  I'm sure you don't wish ...
[06:08] <CSWookie> Later folks.  Your livecd was quite helpful.
[06:08] <Abst> Whistle while you work, dooot de do do doo
[06:08] <wsg> ladydoor have not installed "ubuntu" on this system yet, that mae doing what you ask kind of hard... so I asked !
[06:08] <_priest> sethk: yea i use fvwm-crystal with ubuntu
[06:08] <ladydoor> wsg: oh! lol. just a second
[06:08] <wsg> ladydoor it's version 2.14
[06:08] <realcoolguy> any people using blender having issues importing .3ds files (I get a python script error) ?
[06:08] <ladydoor> wsg: ah
[06:09] <_priest> sethk: do you know where the locale gets set on debian systems
[06:09] <wsg> at least according to the article i have
[06:09] <ladydoor> wsg: sweet.
[06:09] <_priest> sethk: i added a .desktop to my gdm session but its showing up as 'foo'
[06:09] <_priest> tried setting Name[en] =fvwm-crystal but no go
[06:09] <sethk> _priest, check /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf, for starters
[06:10] <sethk> _priest, I'm not certain about locale, I'd have to look it up
[06:10] <wsg> ladydoor beats Downloading, and shipit, got the "DVD" of Dapper, both a live and a Install DVD release...
[06:10] <ladydoor> wsg: errr...the livecd *is* the install cd
[06:10] <waseda> nmnguyet@ubuntu:~$ sudo su -
[06:10] <waseda> Password:
[06:10] <waseda> sudo: Can't open /var/run/sudo/nmnguyet/0: Read-only file system
[06:10] <waseda> postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system
[06:10] <waseda> root@ubuntu:~ # postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system
[06:10] <waseda> postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system
[06:10] <waseda> postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/712995.9381: Read-only file system
[06:10] <ladydoor> !paste
[06:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:10] <_priest> sethk: looks like its read from /etc/gdm/locale.conf
[06:11] <sethk> _priest, looks promising, yes
[06:11] <_priest> sethk: ill set that and see
[06:11] <_priest> perhaps just Name[en]  isn't being read must be Name[en_US] 
[06:11] <sethk> _priest, possible
[06:11] <elhaxxorz> can someone help me get rid of this boot message?
[06:11] <_priest> cool thx
[06:11] <wsg> ladydoor yea, like that new feature, use to get a live CD and a Install CD seperate, now "Dapper" includes all in one ... thats sweet. . .
[06:12] <jasmuz> Does anyone know about LM-SENSORS? query me if so..
[06:12] <elhaxxorz> X: cannot stat /tmp/.X11-unix (Not a directory), aborting
[06:12] <jman8888> Can open office edit pdf's?
[06:12] <ladydoor> wsg: oh! haha. well, i never used a livecd before dapper
[06:12] <ladydoor> jman8888: it can save to a pdf
[06:12] <jman8888> ladydoor, Yes.
[06:12] <ladydoor> jman8888: there should be a tool to convert pdfs to text
[06:13] <ladydoor> jman8888: (pdftotext--you can get it by installing xpdf)
[06:13] <holycow> *ooo*
[06:13] <wsg> ladydoor, oh. :-) np .... this makes my third release of UBUNTU to use ....
[06:13] <holycow> thunar is  a sweet file manager
[06:13] <holycow> neato
[06:13] <sethk> jman8888, I don't think you can go backwards, and modify an existing pdf
[06:13] <ladydoor> wsg: sweet
[06:13] <ladydoor> wsg: i always just installed and *then* checked it out. lol
[06:14] <jman8888> sethk, :( My label's template is in a pdf. How can i work with that.
[06:14] <Abst> !ask
[06:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:14] <sethk> jman8888, I don't know of a way
[06:14] <holycow> yow, so fast
[06:14] <ladydoor> jman8888: does it have images or just text? if it's text, you can use pdftotext
[06:14] <wsg> ladydoor been a "linux" user since Redhat 5.2 ... and then tried about ever Distro I could, then found Ubuntu and have stuck with it off and on for a long time now it seems ..
[06:15] <jman8888> Image based.
[06:15] <Netslayer> I'm running dapper + kde and when i goto add more desktops, set it to 4 or anything, save. it won't apply it and won't show that i set 4 when i go back..any ideas?
[06:15] <jman8888> Its for making your labels to print
[06:15] <Abst> wsg: why do you put stuff in quotes?
[06:15] <Netslayer> it's not keeping my desktop number settings
[06:15] <ladydoor> wsg: sweet. i kind of accidentally got started when i accidentally deleted my windoze partition with hoary
[06:15] <wsg> Abst habbit
[06:15] <ladydoor> jman8888: can the gimp do pdfs?
[06:15] <jman8888> ladydoor, Have no clue.
[06:15] <HYB> Hey guys
[06:16] <jman8888> !gimp pdf
[06:16] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2712 kB, installed size 7648 kB
[06:16] <Abst> !ubotu
[06:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:16] <harry> is there a theme just look like windows for ubuntu???
[06:16] <wsg> ladydoor I still stick with windows for my gamming, but slowly linux is getting the support for me needs.
[06:16] <Abst> Erm
[06:16] <Abst> KDE looks a bit like windows
[06:16] <ladydoor> wsg: :-)
[06:16] <HYB> Gaim irc client... (cringe)
[06:17] <wsg> HYB I agree gaim. Xchat a least would have been nice
[06:17] <ladydoor> HYB: try irssi :-)
[06:17] <HYB> ladydoor, i have irssi
[06:17] <HYB> and i'm on it
[06:17] <ladydoor> HYB: oh
[06:17] <NoNick> im on a nintendo ds
[06:17] <wubrgamer> which user owns the apache daemon by default ?
[06:17] <HYB> it's just on a different server
[06:17] <wubrgamer> which user owns the apache daemon by default ?
[06:17] <harry> Abst: i noticed that quite a bit. but to look like windows XP. is there a theme like that for ubuntu?
[06:17] <wubrgamer> sorry didn't mean 2 spam
[06:17] <InvisiblePinkUni> wireless is driving me nuts :o
[06:18] <HYB> harry, wouldn't that defeat the purpose?
[06:18] <Abst> harry: I doubt it, alot of users here dislike WinXO
[06:18] <Abst> XP
[06:18] <Abst> XSuck
[06:18] <HYB> i hate windows wih a passion <.<
[06:18] <wsg> Hard to believe Ubuntu has now Exceeded Debian in irc users
[06:18] <yggdrasil> does anyone here know of a web based thing like nukephp or xoops or a photo gallery but more like  a video gallery ?
[06:18] <InvisiblePinkUni> after following this wireless howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDevice%2FAcx111 my card which was recognized previously was not recognized anymore.... :o
[06:18] <Abst> Erm
[06:19] <Abst> Thats not linux related
[06:19] <InvisiblePinkUni> !wireless
[06:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:19] <HYB> Hey, if any of you have installed XGL, I was wondering if yall would know how to utilize the zoom function, i can't figure it out =/
[06:19] <jman8888> How come in kde when i move a program to another desktop i still see it in my bar.
[06:19] <wsg> an I dont get Gentoo's Following, thats a little to "Hard Core" linux for my taste :)
[06:19] <Megaqwerty> What is the best free anti-virus program for Linux?
[06:19] <ladydoor> !best
[06:19] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:19] <HYB> terminal
[06:19] <Abst> Megaqwerty: You don't need one
[06:19] <wsg> Megaqwerty AVG
[06:19] <waseda> nmnguyet@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[06:19] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[06:19] <waseda> ok just that
[06:19] <tainted-> hi
[06:19] <ladydoor> !virus
[06:19] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:19] <tainted-> anyone here do ubuntu dev
[06:20] <wubrgamer> which user owns the apache daemon by default ? on ubuntu ?
[06:20] <tainted-> i have a bug that i'm going to spend about 5 seconds sharing
[06:20] <Abst> Ladydoor has the whole bot db memorized.
[06:20] <Megaqwerty> I just want to be safe :)
[06:20] <ladydoor> tainted-: i think there's a #ubuntu-dev channel
[06:20] <HYB> anyone here that's installed XGL know how to zoom?
[06:20] <Abst> Megaqwerty: You already are
[06:20] <ladydoor> Abst: actually, i just kind of make things up and they often work :-)
[06:20] <Abst> ladydoor: haha
[06:20] <bhrobinson> my sound has quit responding... is there a way to get ALSA to redetect the sound card without rebooting?
[06:20] <Megaqwerty> so then what is the point of AV software for linux?
[06:20] <Abst> To get money for companies
[06:21] <ladydoor> Abst: that's basically how i do most things...guess, ask questions, and tinker until i like it
[06:21] <Megaqwerty> ah, thank you for that.
[06:21] <Abst> Thats basically it
[06:21] <Abst> And sending files to windows users
[06:21] <Abst> Exes
[06:21] <dcstimm_> Hey guys, where can I find a changelog for 6.06.1 and 6.06 for ppc desktop?
[06:21] <Netslayer> any ideas why my kubuntu dapper install  wont let me save desktop configurations (ie i want more desktops and if i drag past 1 it wont save)
[06:21] <ladydoor> Netslayer: #kubuntu willl probably provide better answers :-)
[06:22] <bhrobinson> my sound has quit responding... is there a way to get ALSA to redetect the sound card without rebooting?
[06:22] <ladydoor> !repeat
[06:22] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:22] <Abst> I am using Gaim
[06:23] <ladydoor> Abst: ok
[06:23] <dcstimm_> Hey guys, where can I find a changelog for 6.06.1 and 6.06 for ppc desktop?
[06:23] <dcstimm_> what is the difference between 6.06.1 and 6.06?
[06:23] <Abst> !repeat
[06:23] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:24] <mkquist_> bhrobinson-http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 might be a good place to start
[06:24] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: if you've installed 6.06 and done your updates, you *have* 6.06.1
[06:24] <bhrobinson> mkquist_, thanks... let me look
[06:24] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: (i think)
[06:24] <wikijeff> Why am I getting a "dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened." error when I try to compile LaTeX programs with Texmaker??
[06:24] <dcstimm_> ladydoor, no im interested in the livecd
[06:24] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: ohhhh
[06:24] <Slayer20003> can anyone help a noob? hehe
[06:24] <Abst> !ask
[06:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:24] <ladydoor> !anyone
[06:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:24] <wsg> Whats next release going to be named ? anyone know ?
[06:24] <mkquist_> lol
[06:24] <Abst> Lol
[06:24] <Slayer20003> hah
[06:24] <tritium> wsg: edgy eft
[06:24] <Abst> I refuse to be beaten
[06:24] <ladydoor> wsg: edgy eft
[06:24] <InvisiblePinkUni> ubotu... how old are you?
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how old are you? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <dcstimm_> ladydoor, 6.06 has alot of problems on ppc machines, I want to know if anything was fixed in 6.06.1
[06:25] <mkquist_> lol, being coy
[06:25] <NickGarvey> InvisiblePinkUni: its a bot
[06:25] <Abst> ubotu... youself
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about youself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: aha.
[06:25] <NickGarvey> how can I resize an ext3 partition? I am not getting the option in qtparted
[06:25] <mkquist_> lol
[06:25] <ladydoor> !6.06.1
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 6.06.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <mkquist_> !help
[06:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:25] <Abst> NickGarvey: I think you have to do it out of the partition
[06:25] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: you might try googling it.....
[06:25] <Abst> NickGarvey: Can't resize it while its in use.
[06:25] <NickGarvey> Abst: its not mounted
[06:25] <Abst> NickGarvey: Dunno then
[06:25] <dcstimm_> ladydoor, have
[06:25] <Slayer20003> just threw ubuntu on an old rig, and this is my first deal with Linux......I'm trying to run Folding@Home on this rig, and the dl from their site for linux was an EXE file....how do i run this in ubuntu?
[06:25] <ladydoor> dcstimm_: ah. :-(
[06:26] <Abst> NickGarvey:  I've resized ext3
[06:26] <Abst> ubotu... ext3
[06:26] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[06:26] <wsg> Some guru needs to get QEMU to run "UBUNTU" inside windows ... lol
[06:26] <ladydoor> wsg: why not just install ubuntu? lol
[06:26] <jpjacobs> NickGarvey, i heard it's just about deleting the partition with fdisk, and then recreating a larger one on the same space, your data should then be there (but don't blame me if it doesn't work, never tried it myself)
[06:27] <sethk> jpjacobs, no, no, no, that will NOT work
[06:27] <NickGarvey> jpjacobs: mm.. I don't think..
[06:27] <Abst> I doubt anyone would try that
[06:27] <Abst> lol
[06:27] <ladydoor> Slayer20003: if it's a windowz .exe, you'll need wine...otherwise, you can do it in a terminal (if it's executable) with ./filename.exe
[06:27] <sethk> Abst, somebody might _try_ it, but nobody will _succeed_  :)
[06:27] <mkquist_> ouch
[06:27] <cliffd> can anyone explain to me the process of patching the kernel for ubuntu? I only know the ins and outs from a gentoo or fedora aspect. thanks.
[06:27] <sethk> cliffd, the kernel is the kernel, really
[06:28] <bhrobinson> mkquist_,  my sound was working earlier, I would just prefer not to reboot. Is there a way to get alsa to redetect without reboot?
[06:28] <Abst> A certain bot could explain something here
[06:28] <sethk> cliffd, other than the path where the source is installed, all distros are the same
[06:28] <cliffd> sethk: do I need to re package my patched kernel into an apt-get package?
[06:28] <wsg> well off to read on Ubuntu and get ready to install ... later all ... :)
[06:28] <ladydoor> wsg: :-)
[06:28] <tritium> cliffd: no, but you can
[06:28] <Slayer20003> ladydoor, i tried that, and their site mentiones using chmod -x then the file name, and THEN running ./filename.exe, but nothing happens
[06:28] <sethk> cliffd, no, just install it, but you can package it that way if you have a good reason to do it
[06:28] <cliffd> tritium: whats the clean way of doing it? and if I upgrade my kernel I would assume I have to patch it again. right?
[06:28] <sethk> Slayer20003, you can't run a windows executable natively in linux.  try it with wine
[06:28] <ladydoor> Slayer20003: ok...you might well need wine, because they're just trying to pawn off w windowz binary on you.
[06:29] <mkquist_> bhrobinson-lemme look a mo
[06:29] <ladydoor> !wine
[06:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:29] <cliffd> does ubuntu update the kernel or does it stay the same like debian?
[06:29] <tritium> cliffd: the debian/ubuntu way is in fact to use kernel-package to build your own .deb
[06:29] <Abst> Slayer20003: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:29] <sethk> cliffd, you would use the "make oldconfig" capability of the kernel to migrate to newer versions
[06:29] <holycow> cliffd, both update kernels, watcha talkin about?
[06:29] <sethk> cliffd, this is one case where using the package manager makes your life much more difficult
[06:29] <holycow> *scroll* *scroll*
[06:30] <holycow> oh, my answer makes sense OUT of context :) ignore me
[06:30] <Abst>  /clear
[06:30] <cliffd> ok, so I can just build it and install it good to go. no really reason I would need to make a .deb and install it that way?
[06:31] <mkquist_> bhrobinson-dont know, I'm pretty new too, sorry
[06:31] <holycow> cliffd, you would wnat a deb to uninstall it later
[06:31] <bhrobinson> no prob. Let me restartt the GDM and see
[06:31] <holycow> but for a kernel thatas really almost pointless, one file to delete manually
[06:31] <cliffd> holycow: or just let it sit there or be written over when the new one comes out?
[06:31] <cliffd> ok thanks all
[06:31] <holycow> cliffd, or that
[06:32] <Abst> Anyone know what the default web dir is in apache2?
[06:32] <Abst> Im using the ubuntu distro.
[06:32] <Abst> >_>
[06:32] <NickGarvey> Abst: /var/www I believe
[06:32] <NickGarvey> Abst: just do "cd /; find -name index.html
[06:32] <Abst> "Thankyou
[06:32] <cliffd> /var/www but it depends on what the prefix was set to
[06:32] <feliciano_> somebody have installed OpenArena?
[06:33] <Abst> How would I chmod a directory to make it writable by all
[06:33] <Abst> chmod dir 777?
[06:33] <cliffd> it seems odd to me that apache would pick /var for its default place for content. anyone else?
[06:33] <cliffd> chmod dir a+w also
[06:33] <cliffd> but yeah, the 777 make it so people can not only write but execute commands in that dir and read what they wrote
[06:35] <sethk> Abst, don't use numbers.  use a+w.  777 allows everyone to do everything, which I doubt you want
[06:35] <sethk> Abst, but even if you do, it's a bad habit to use numbers where symbols are available
[06:35] <Abst> Will remember
[06:35] <w30> Abnix, chmod -R ugoa+w directoryname
[06:36] <IceTox> Hello guys! Whenever I make a restart on my computer, somehow my network card is dead. I always need to deactivate it through the system->Administration->Networking and than activate it again, and it works ok. Now, isn't there anything to do about this? I'd really like it to work at once :)
[06:36] <Abst> Buy a new network card.
[06:36] <Abst> Should fix it
[06:36] <Abst> >_>
[06:36] <sethk> IceTox, check the configuration
[06:36] <IceTox> lol Abst
[06:36] <Abst> No really that will fix it
[06:37] <sethk> IceTox, I would try to sniff packets during the startup and see what causes the problem
[06:37] <cliffd> ok, install time
[06:37] <IceTox> sethk, that gives me nothing. (at least the graphical configuration.) seems all ok :)
[06:37] <cliffd> bbiab, hopefully
[06:37] <IceTox> good luck cliffd :)
[06:37] <cliffd> IceTox: thanks.
[06:37] <Abst> Same here
[06:37] <sethk> IceTox, using dhcp, I assume
[06:38] <Abst> !question
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <IceTox> I should disable dhcp you think sethk ?
[06:38] <sethk> IceTox, if you can use a static ip, that will fix the problem
[06:38] <IceTox> well, fair enough, my router is in deed running dhcp
[06:38] <sethk> IceTox, well, hack around it, really, not fix it
[06:38] <sethk> IceTox, but the effect will likely be the same
[06:38] <IceTox> sethk, If I only were as good as you guys :)
[06:39] <w30> IceTox, check your bootlogs and sdd if the interface comes up on boot, maybe eth0 don't start or sumptn'
[06:39] <w30> sdd/see
[06:39] <Abst> I have a copy of hoary here
[06:39] <SJr|nx> I'm installing Ubuntu for the first time, but I've been using debian for a few years, during the install is there anything I just watch out for like a cavot
[06:39] <SJr|nx> or can I just blow thru it
[06:39] <SJr|nx> reading every 2nd word
[06:40] <IceTox> root@madelaine:~# ifconfig
[06:40] <IceTox> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:D3:15:2F:08
[06:40] <IceTox>           inet addr:10.0.0.4  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[06:40] <Abst> Install is pretty simple
[06:40] <sethk> SJr|nx, odds are you can blast through it
[06:40] <Abst> But if it says EXPLODE HD do not do that
[06:40] <Abst> That is bad
[06:40] <IceTox> I can set this as a static configuration than sethk ?
[06:40] <IceTox> oh crap
[06:40] <IceTox> need to reach the bus! worktime :|
[06:40] <sethk> IceTox, sure, you can, but you have to tell the router to reserve the address
[06:40] <Abst> SJr|nx: Install is strightforward seriously. Takes about 20 mins max for me, and its not hard.
[06:41] <sethk> IceTox, to make sure the router doesn't give that address to another host when it gets a dhcp request
[06:41] <Abst> Its only 5 steps
[06:41] <Abst> If I remember
[06:41] <IceTox> sethk, well, I'm running with tp cable, so I guess that specific IP is kinda mine anyway :)
[06:41] <holycow> thats with the graphical installer via live cd
[06:41] <Abst> Yes it is.
[06:41] <sethk> IceTox, that doesn't follow
[06:41] <SJr|nx> Hey
[06:41] <SJr|nx> hmmm
[06:41] <SJr|nx> does the live cd support suspend 2
[06:41] <holycow> you still have the option of using the text based installer that asks you a few more questions ,but after they are asked it doesn't stop half way
[06:42] <IceTox> sethk, how do I find out what my gateway is?
[06:42] <IceTox> should it be listed in ifconfig sethk ?
[06:43] <sethk> IceTox, no.  run route  (with no arguments)   and find the default route
[06:43] <sethk> IceTox, the default route has ip 0.0.0.0
[06:43] <IceTox> ah, thanks sethk :)
[06:44] <Abst> !install
[06:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:44] <QQQOmniD> how to install .rpm
[06:44] <QQQOmniD> !rpm
[06:44] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[06:44] <Abst> !rpm
[06:44] <Abst> Oops
[06:44] <bthornton> Anybody know of a good (i.e. user-friendly) TV-viewing application other than Tvtime I can run in Ubuntu/GNOME?  I'm running Xgl and apparently Tvtime doesn't play well with that.
[06:44] <holycow> !alien
[06:44] <QQQOmniD> !alien
[06:44] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[06:45] <SJr|nx> Whats the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[06:45] <tritium> bthornton: try zapping or xawtv
[06:45] <Abst> Dont type it twice
[06:45] <Abst> It'll say it twice now
[06:45] <bthornton> tritium: will look; thanks
[06:45] <holycow> SJr|nx, nothing, just the default de in kubuntue is kde
[06:45] <sethk> SJr|nx, kubuntu installs the kde desktop by default, ubuntu installs gnome
[06:45] <SJr|nx> is the install cd a live cd too?
[06:45] <SJr|nx> or is that seperate
[06:45] <Abst> Xubuntu installs something else
[06:45] <bhrobinson> ok, two questions... I am need to reboot, but I have a 1 gig NFS server that I want to auto mount on boot. What file do I need to set that in. And second, I have 4 displays, but cannot get videos to display on one of the 4 screens... any ideas?
[06:45] <sethk> SJr|nx, for the newest release the install cd is also the live cd
[06:46] <sethk> SJr|nx, for the previous version they were separate
[06:46] <SJr|nx> hurrah
[06:46] <holycow> SjB, one is live, other two offer installation options including text installer
[06:46] <QQQOmniD> !alien > QQQOmniD
[06:46] <SJr|nx> and finally does anyone know if the live cd supports suspend2?
[06:46] <Abst> SJr|nx: Once you get onto the live CD desktop, there is a folder named Examples and a Install program
[06:46] <SJr|nx> i.e. can you hibernate or suspend your notebook with the live cd
[06:46] <holycow> sethk, for the newer they have alternate and server installers that also offer text based besides live cd
[06:46] <hazarath> Need codec for 'FPS1'.
[06:46] <bhrobinson> bthornton, have you looked at MythTV?
[06:46] <Abst> Examples is stuff Ubuntu can do
[06:46] <QQQOmniD> It doesn't say why it's dangerous
[06:46] <Abst> Install is the installer
[06:46] <SJr|nx> I'd be interested in trying it on my notebook
[06:46] <SJr|nx> and seeing if it can do what debian can't :)
[06:46] <sethk> holycow, yes, I should have mentioned that also
[06:46] <Abst> SJr|nx: It has the option, dunno if it works
[06:46] <SJr|nx> or I should say, what I can't
[06:47] <QQQOmniD> So I cannoy use LimeWire :c
[06:47] <SJr|nx> hurrah
[06:47] <bthornton> bhrobinson: yes, but it's far too complicated a piece of software to setup for my purposes right now
[06:47] <holycow> SJr|nx, btw, live cd installer isn't trully trustworthy, for me it has been broken on 50% of all attempts on different boxes
[06:47] <QQQOmniD> *cannot
[06:47] <holycow> it depends
[06:47] <Abst> Same
[06:47] <Abst> You have to try a few times
[06:47] <Abst> But meh
[06:47] <squeaks> i want my X server to start sometimes with my alternative ServerLayout in xorg.conf, i had been doing startx -- -layout Multihead, but I had to hack at the runlevel that gdm runs at, and telinit to a higher runlevel
[06:47] <thybo> worked fine for me all the times
[06:47] <holycow> or download the alternate iso and use the text installer ... di rules
[06:47] <Abst> Use LiveCD methinks
[06:47] <kohr_> how would i give azureus the athurity to write on a fat32 partiton
[06:48] <Abst> !ntfs
[06:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:48] <SJr|nx> thanks
[06:48] <Abst> Oops
[06:48] <SJr|nx> okay
[06:48] <SJr|nx> thanks
[06:48] <SJr|nx> lata
[06:48] <sethk> squeaks, you can modify the config so that gdm doesn't auto-restart, but I don't think that's any better than the solution you are using
[06:48] <holycow> kohr_, the same way you give everything persm on linux ... the user under which it runs has to have permissions to to write to dir
[06:48] <squeaks> kohr_, mount with -o umask option, probably
[06:48] <thybo> how do you make a webcam work when easycam 1 and 2 fail to do it?
[06:48] <holycow> !fstab
[06:48] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:48] <skuz`> yeah
[06:49] <skuz`> nothin
[06:49] <bhrobinson> ok, two questions... I am need to reboot, but I have a 1 gig NFS server that I want to auto mount on boot. What file do I need to set that in. And second, I have 4 displays, but cannot get videos to display on one of the 4 screens... any ideas?
[06:49] <Abst> thybo: The webcam may be unsupported
[06:49] <kohr_> squeaks, mount the partition with that?
[06:49] <thybo> no i think it is
[06:49] <Abst> !patience
[06:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:49] <hazarath> Need FPS1 codec, please.
[06:49] <thybo> its a spacecam 320 saw it on suported list
[06:49] <squeaks> kohr_, man mount and find under FAT the umask option, probably mount -o umask=0222 /dev/* /mnt/* or similar
[06:50] <sethk> bhrobinson, you can add an NFS mount to fstab like any other mount
[06:50] <holycow> !fps1
[06:50] <kohr_> squeaks, k thanks, i;ll try that
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fps1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <holycow> hazarath, no frickin clue, google that
[06:50] <hazarath> It's Fraps encoding.
[06:50] <sethk> bhrobinson, for the displays, what video card(s)?  two dual output cards, four separate cards, ???
[06:50] <Abst> You'll need fraps I guess
[06:50] <hazarath> Tried.
[06:50] <Abst> I doubt its an open source codec
[06:50] <hazarath> Won't install.
[06:51] <dalberic> anyone run Quad SLI and ubuntu yet?
[06:51] <Abst> Wont install on linx?
[06:51] <Abst> linux
[06:51] <hazarath> Not with Wine or Cedega
[06:51] <Abst> Hmm
[06:51] <Hmmmm> hi guys, im on dapper, and my Xorg seems to be hogging memory. anything i can do to stop/reduce that?
[06:51] <Abst> Got a buddy who has linux?
[06:51] <Abst> Hmmmm: Uninstall it
[06:51] <Crescendo> I get a buzzing sound over my speakers on Dapper Drake whenever my HDD seeks
[06:51] <Crescendo> How would I fix this issue?
[06:52] <Hmmmm> Abst: hahaha
[06:52] <bhrobinson> sethk, awesome! you have been fantastic in this transition... as for the video cards, they are 2 dual head. I was trying both as Nvidia 5200, but they did not work together. The drivers were taken over by the AGP, so now I am running an AGP Matrox 450 and a PCI 5200
[06:52] <hazarath> Ya, why?
[06:52] <Abst> What? thats how i'd fix it
[06:52] <Abst> Lol
[06:52] <holycow> Hmmmm, wtf?  there is no such thing as hogging mermory
[06:52] <Abst> !xorg
[06:52] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:52] <holycow> Hmmmm, this isn't windows, linux will use as much ram as it decides to
[06:52] <Abst> Haha
[06:52] <holycow> Hmmmm, it won't affect anything let linux do its thing, leave microsoft to redmond
[06:52] <Abst> this my MY ram do GET YOUR PAWS OFF
[06:52] <w30> Crescendo, stick a tinfoil hat between the hard drive and the sound card :=)
[06:53] <Hmmmm> holycow: yes there is, but to drive the machine to a point where windows leaving tails behind when dragges, no
[06:53] <Crescendo> Lol, thanks w30
[06:53] <Crescendo> Y'know - that just MIGHT work.
[06:53] <thybo> uh, about my webcam:p
[06:53] <squeaks> sethk, which configuration file tells gdm whether or not to start?
[06:53] <Abst> !repeat
[06:53] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:53] <holycow> Hmmmm, no there isn't, there are memory leaks, so far on dapper i haven't noticed anything of the sort and neither has the bugtracker
[06:54] <sethk> squeaks, /etc/inittab
[06:54] <w30> Crescendo, seriously, can you move your sound card in your box further from the hard drive?
[06:54] <Hmmmm> holycow: i meant dragging a window (aka in firefox) leaves a tail behind
[06:54] <cyphase> anyone been having sound problems
[06:54] <Abst> Hey jose
[06:54] <holycow> you also get into a problem of trying to REALLY see how much memory is being used
[06:54] <cyphase> where the sound stops working
[06:54] <holycow> on linux almost everything relies on shared libraries
[06:54] <bhrobinson> Abst, you enjoy that macro, don't you? <grin>
[06:54] <thybo> sorry abst
[06:54] <Abst> cyphase: Loads of people
[06:54] <holycow> there is no REAL way to tell what process owns what an dhow much
[06:54] <Abst> thybo Its true, noone knows so we can't help#
[06:54] <dalberic> my sound is low
[06:54] <thybo> :) np
[06:54] <holycow> Hmmmm, get a new video card :)
[06:54] <Hmmmm> holycow: i'm looking at Xorg on "top" for the past couple of days. its taking up 15% of my 512 MB of RAM
[06:54] <hazarath> Abst, no help there?
[06:55] <dalberic> in gxine and rhythmbox
[06:55] <Hmmmm> 20% sometimes
[06:55] <Abst> hazarath: Help where?
[06:55] <Abst> Wiki?
[06:55] <holycow> Hmmmm, you think thats a lot?
[06:55] <bhrobinson> sethk, did you get my message on that? Also, I am looking at the fstab and not quite sure how to mount the NFS in there.
[06:55] <InvisiblePinkUni> !asterisk
[06:55] <holycow> Hmmmm, window trails HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RAM
[06:55] <ubotu> asterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX) - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.7.1.dfsg-2ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 213 kB, installed size 560 kB
[06:55] <Hmmmm> holycow: yes i do. but thats why i'm here to check
[06:55] <Crescendo> w30, nope, the sound card is actually on board
[06:55] <holycow> Hmmmm, your assigning the sypmtoms to the wrong cause
[06:55] <denver1> hi can anyone tell me how to make a boot disk using smart boot manager?
[06:55] <bhrobinson> Also, it takes about 45 seconds to mount when I do it... any ideas as to why?
[06:55] <hazarath> Abst, with playing those vids.
[06:55] <holycow> Hmmmm, thats why im telling you, it has nothing to do with ram
[06:55] <dalberic> window trails have to do with monitor refresh rate
[06:56] <Abst> hazarath: I got nothing then
[06:56] <Hmmmm> holycow: okay if u say so
[06:56] <hazarath> http://video.fraps.com/Ballance.zip is an example of the vid format.
[06:56] <dalberic> up your screen refresh rate hmmm
[06:56] <Hmmmm> y machine is unbelieavable slow all of a sudden.
[06:56] <holycow> Hmmmm, either you gpu is slow or your drivers suck, or a combination of both.  there is some possibility of other variables entering into the equation such as a slow system bus if you are burning cds or transferring vast amounts of data but it has  nothing to do with xorg using 15% of ram
[06:56] <sethk> bhrobinson, is it a directory with a very large number of subdirectories?
[06:56] <holycow> that is such a windows question
[06:56] <sethk> bhrobinson, nfs mounts typically take less than one second
[06:57] <shinta42> I just swapped physicall my harddrive from secondary master to primary master...what do i need to edit in order for grub to boot it?
[06:57] <Abst> shinta42: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:57] <Abst> At the bottom
[06:57] <holycow> Hmmmm, what you should do is mabye is open up system monitor
[06:57] <Abst> Or
[06:57] <bhrobinson> sethk, there are about 20 directories under the main, but there might be 4000 or more under that... it is a 1tb filesystem
[06:57] <Abst> Do sudo grub-update
[06:57] <sethk> shinta42, /boot/grub/menu.lst, and a reinstall of grub on the mbr
[06:57] <holycow> shmm then adjust it to show cpu usage
[06:57] <Abst> That will do it automatically I think
[06:57] <Hmmmm> anyways, holycow and Abst thanks. will try and see what i can find out on google
[06:57] <dalberic> xorg is not even in running proceses
[06:57] <Abst> Np!
[06:57] <sethk> bhrobinson, that's your problem, it is indexing all of those directories
[06:57] <holycow> Hmmmm, a lot of times its an application stuck in a loop in the back ground .
[06:58] <shinta42> abst:command not found
[06:58] <Hmmmm> holycow: ic
[06:58] <Abst> Hmm
[06:58] <dalberic> try rebooting
[06:58] <Abst> Holy on
[06:58] <bhrobinson> sethk, am I asking too much? <grin> Is there a way to have that already indexed?
[06:58] <Abst> Hold
[06:58] <sethk> bhrobinson, there are strategies for dealing with it.
[06:58] <holycow> Hmmmm, you can add the system monitor applet to your task bar as well to monitor system performance, cpu usage, hd usage, traffic, etc
[06:58] <sethk> bhrobinson, let me see what I can find.
[06:58] <holycow> that can give you a good glance as to the raw chunks of interesting things happening on your system, then go from there
[06:59] <Abst> shinta42: I can't remember the command, but it automatically does menu.lst i'll try google
[06:59] <Abst> Ah!
[06:59] <Abst> sudo update-grub
[06:59] <denver1> hi can anyone tell me how to make a cd  boot disk using smart boot manager?
[07:00] <Abst> !repeat
[07:00] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:00] <shinta42> abst:first i need to mount my hd right lol
[07:00] <Abst> Hehe
[07:00] <Abst> That would help
[07:00] <shinta42> abst:how do i switch from bootdisk to hd?
[07:00] <Abst> What do you mean
[07:00] <shinta42> abst:right now my ubuntu disc is mounted
[07:00] <dalberic> ok i just got this error doing sudo sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 30 03:56:35 2006
[07:00] <shinta42> abst:i need to mount my hd
[07:01] <dalberic> wtf
[07:01] <Hmmmm> InvisiblePinkUni: you into asterisk?
[07:01] <Abst> Yes
[07:01] <shinta42> abst:right now i just booted off ubuntu cd ...
[07:01] <Abst> So your on a livecd?
[07:01] <shinta42> abst:yah thats why i meant
[07:01] <Abst> So is ubuntu installed on this 2nd hdd?
[07:01] <InvisiblePinkUni> Hmmmm: i want asterisk.... but know almost nothing about configuring it and stuff....
[07:01] <shinta42> abst:ubuntu was installed i just swapped hd from secondary to primary
[07:01] <Hmmmm> so you want to install asterisk on ur desktop?
[07:02] <ceruleantiger> Is there any way to use a standard liveCD to install ubuntu on a macbook? I'm scared of the command line provided by the mactel-ubuntu liveCD... :(
[07:02] <tehsu> Is there anyway to undervolt the centrino on linux?
[07:02] <dalberic> HOW DO I SWITCH FROM GRUBS TEXT INTERFACE TO THE GRAPHICAL INTERFACE??
[07:02] <Abst> I think
[07:02] <JoseStefan> !caps
[07:02] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:02] <shinta42> abst:i remember there was this command where one can remount from livecd to the system on hd
[07:02] <Abst> sudo mount hda2 /mount/hda2
[07:02] <Abst> Maybe or something
[07:02] <Justaway> For those who were looking for an audio editor for Ubuntu - That is more sophisticated then the primitive "Audacity" - check out "Rezound"
[07:02] <Abst> shinta42: I dunno that one
[07:02] <Abst> !remount
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <Abst> !livecd
[07:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[07:03] <bhrobinson> InvisiblePinkUni, If you are trying to learn asterisk, I would suggest starting with astlinux. there is a livecd and that way when you screw up, it is easy to fix <grin>
[07:03] <dalberic> HOW DO I SWITCH FROM GRUBS TEXT INTERFACE TO THE GRAPHICAL INTERFACE??
[07:03] <Abst> dalberic: Caps lock off and we might listen
[07:03] <holycow> oh for f's sake --> http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/faq.html
[07:03] <Abst> Haha
[07:03] <InvisiblePinkUni> bhrobinson: oh thats great.... thanks :)
[07:03] <shinta42> abst:say i just mount my hd to a dir...i just go into /dir/boot and run update-grub ..?
[07:03] <Abst> Its stupid
[07:03] <Skuz`> yeah i recommend you just get the alt disc since it has a real installer that actually works.
[07:03] <Charon1> Am am trying out ubuntu for the first time, and can you install with sw raid 0 from the desktop install cd ? If so are there any docs ?
[07:03] <shinta42> abst:will that do it ? or do i need to remount the entire filesystem to hd in order for update-grub to work properly
[07:03] <Abst> shinta Lemme check --help
[07:04] <InvisiblePinkUni> !redhat
[07:04] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[07:04] <Abst> !update-grub
[07:04] <InvisiblePinkUni> !windows
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:04] <tehsu> !undervolt
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about undervolt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <Abst> shinta: You have to be on the drive you are updating I believe
[07:04] <dalberic> how do i switch from grub's text interface to the graphical interface
[07:04] <shinta42> anyone uses a VT82C IDE interface?
[07:04] <Abst> shinta42: If you download and burn a disk named Super Grub Disk - that is extreamly useful
[07:04] <shinta42> abst:....so i need to remount the filesystem to hd...
[07:04] <Abst> It is install grub for you
[07:04] <Charon1> !raid0
[07:04] <Abst> And autodetect
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raid0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <dalberic> !grub
[07:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:05] <ajay> my god what next
[07:05] <shinta42> !via
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <tehsu> latest kernel?
[07:05] <tehsu> !kernel
[07:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:05] <bhrobinson> InvisiblePinkUni, however, if you do not care to learn it, just use, you might want to look at freepbx, or even better, there is trixbox - it is built on the CentOS 4.2
[07:05] <shinta42> abst:....what should i do...reinstall? lol
[07:05] <Abst> No
[07:06] <InvisiblePinkUni> :) ta bhrobinson
[07:06] <Abst> Hold on
[07:06] <shinta42> abst:ok thanks
[07:06] <shinta42> anyone uses a VT82C IDE interface?
[07:06] <InvisiblePinkUni> to learn or just use.... that is the question
[07:06] <mkquist_> !god
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <InvisiblePinkUni> !ubotu
[07:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:06] <JoseStefan> !botabuse
[07:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[07:06] <InvisiblePinkUni> !wikipedia
[07:06] <ubotu> wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia, you can find it at http://wikipedia.org
[07:07] <cliffd> hi, so I just installed. whats the username?
[07:07] <ajay> cliffd, its the one you woudl have given during install
[07:07] <cliffd> ajay, it didnt ask for one
[07:07] <Abst> shinta42: This is from the wiki.. 1. Type grub. 2. type root(hd0,0) First number is the hd#, second is partition #. 3. setup (hd#) 6. Quit
[07:07] <holycow> cliffd, it did ask you
[07:07] <holycow> cliffd, its impossible to install it without filling out that form
[07:08] <holycow> you just forgot
[07:08] <ajay> it would surely ask for one.
[07:08] <holycow> :)
[07:08] <Abst> 7. reboot
[07:08] <cliffd> holycow: I did the oem install from the additional cd
[07:08] <shinta42> abst:do i need to mount my hd?
[07:08] <cliffd> and it never asked me for a root password
[07:08] <holycow> cliffd, been a while since i installed that one, you got me there :)
[07:08] <holycow> cliffd, there isno root pass
[07:08] <Abst> shinta42: imma pm you
[07:08] <ajay> ah! root is not enabled by default
[07:08] <cliffd> wow. thats crazy. neat idea
[07:09] <holycow> the first user has sudo priviledges the other after do not by default
[07:09] <ajay> whatever user you created has admin/root previlages
[07:09] <holycow> cliffd, its not crazy its good security
[07:09] <cliffd> so, not quite sure. ill reboot into knoppix and look at the password file.
[07:09] <cliffd> holycow: yeah I agree
[07:09] <gn0me> heh
[07:09] <ajay> and its simpler too
[07:09] <JoseStefan> root has a disabled empty password, so you can't login with root
[07:09] <holycow> the ONLY problem is that newbs dont understand SUDO and by default setup weak passwords
[07:09] <Abst> Root is god.
[07:09] <holycow> but alas ... at least each user is probably unique
[07:10] <w30> cliffd, if you forgot it then type in passwd and make a new one
[07:10] <cliffd> crazy from where im coming from.  so what password do you give when you need to make changes to things? or is your account authenicated to do root like things. change network settings. etc etc
[07:10] <Abst> shinta42: ?
[07:10] <shinta42> abst:lemme try
[07:10] <gn0me> cliffd: You use your own account's password
[07:10] <holycow> w30, if you cannot root you cannot change passwd bro ... that is if you have no sudo access touche ... he doesn't seem to
[07:10] <ajay> cliffd, yes it has all the privs
[07:10] <Abst> shinta42: Wait
[07:10] <shinta42> abst:yah?
[07:10] <Charon1> Am am trying out ubuntu for the first time, and is there anyway to install with sw raid 0 from the desktop install cd ? If so are there any docs ?
[07:10] <JoseStefan> cliffd, you use sudo
[07:10] <cliffd> great. thanks.
[07:10] <Abst> shinta42: Go to Administrator -> Gnome PArtitioner
[07:10] <cliffd> no. I swear it didnt ask for a username
[07:11] <shinta42> abst:ok
[07:11] <holycow> you might be able to login using recovery mode or whatever its called, that should toss you to root unless that is locked off
[07:11] <JoseStefan> maybe it created user "ubuntu"
[07:11] <Hmmmm> InvisiblePinkUni: it is quite simple to build asterisk on any distro using the SVN sources
[07:11] <cliffd> JoseStefan: tried that
[07:11] <Abst> shinta42: On it?
[07:11] <cliffd> trying recovery mode
[07:11] <shinta42> abst:root is on /dev/hda7
[07:12] <Abst> Okay
[07:12] <Abst> What hard disk #?
[07:12] <shinta42> abst:i only have 1 hd
[07:12] <Abst> Okay
[07:12] <Abst> So its /dev/hda7
[07:12] <InvisiblePinkUni> Hmmmm: but i use svn only on windows machine with tortoise....
[07:12] <Abst> Go to terminal
[07:12] <Abst> And type grub
[07:12] <shinta42> abst:okay i am in
[07:12] <Abst> sudo grub
[07:12] <shinta42> abst:done
[07:12] <w30> cliffd, you can't sudo?
[07:12] <Hmmmm> InvisiblePinkUni: that's okay. there's plenty of tutorials out there to help you get started with building astersk from source
[07:13] <Abst> type root(hd0,7)
[07:13] <cliffd> w30: im stuck at the gdm login
[07:13] <InvisiblePinkUni> Hmmmm: if i have 2 ip phones.... can i transfer calls from one ip phone to another....?
[07:13] <holycow> cliffd, in recovery mode it will let you adduser wher eyou can add a user and so forth
[07:13] <Hmmmm> InvisiblePinkUni: the real questions is what you are looking to do with asterisk
[07:13] <holycow> don't forget to add the user to the admin group
[07:13] <Hmmmm> InvisiblePinkUni: also, if I'm not mistaken, you take apt-get install asterisk on ubuntu
[07:13] <shinta42> abst:unrecognized command
[07:13] <Abst> shinta42: root (hd0,7)
[07:13] <cliffd> ah, my bad for doing the oem thing, the user is oem
[07:13] <Abst> A space
[07:14] <shinta42> abst:  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82
[07:14] <w30> cliffd, have you made two users?
[07:14] <cliffd> thanks for the help guys. recovery mode is a nice feature
[07:14] <Abst> Okay
[07:14] <cliffd> w30, im going to login with oem and see what happens
[07:14] <Hmmmm> InvisiblePinkUni: you cna do all sorts of magic with asterisk
[07:14] <Abst> Try setup (hd0)
[07:14] <InvisiblePinkUni> Hmmmm: i hope so.... he he he
[07:14] <shinta42> abst: Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[07:14] <Hmmmm> http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Linux+Ubuntu
[07:14] <Justaway> Anyone have an idea why my mic does not work in Ubuntu? - I can hear it through the headphones, but Audacity or Rezound do not record anything.. I have all my mixer controls way up also.
[07:14] <Abst> Hmm
[07:14] <Abst> You've got a problem
[07:14] <kohr_> still trying to let azureus write to a win32 partition
[07:15] <Abst> Can you unmount the hda7 again
[07:15] <shinta42> abst:i didnt mount it
[07:15] <Hmmmm> my asterisk box allows users to make calls to 33 countries' landlines and mobiles for free
[07:15] <InvisiblePinkUni> Hmmmm: tell me more please
[07:15] <Abst> shinta42: Okay
[07:15] <holycow> lol
[07:16] <InvisiblePinkUni> is New Zealand one of them?
[07:16] <holycow> he works for the fbi
[07:16] <Abst> shinta42: Mount it then to /mnt/
[07:16] <InvisiblePinkUni> Hmmmm: which ip phone lets you do that?
[07:16] <holycow> if you want cousin osama not to be identified ...
[07:16] <holycow> lol :)
[07:16] <QQQOmniD> How would I be able to disable certain users from using certain programs?
[07:16] <shinta42> abst:my hda1 is windows hda2 is extended partion, under which hda7 is root...is this wrong?should i make it so its not extended
[07:16] <Hmmmm> I use it as a bridge my our hardware PBX, and connect PBXs from 5 countries so as to be able to route calls to and from them
[07:17] <Abst> shinta42: Is hd7 ext3/2?
[07:17] <holycow> Hmmmm, how are you covering the charges for that?
[07:17] <Hmmmm> a SIP phone will only let you make calls or receiove them. all the magic is done on asterisk
[07:17] <kohr_> i am trying to get azuerus  to be allowed to write to a win32 partition
[07:17] <shinta42> abst:hda7 is reiserfs
[07:17] <cliffd> does anyone have an opinion on this additional oem isntall I did. was it the wrong thing to do? should I reinstall from the regular disk?
[07:17] <Abst> Hmm
[07:17] <Abst> Grub aint gunna boot to that
[07:17] <Hmmmm> holycow: charges for what? all the calls are free. hardware (beside my PC) was hardly $100
[07:18] <shinta42> abst:why
[07:18] <Abst> it didn't
[07:18] <InvisiblePinkUni> Hmmmm: does asterisk have documentation for "how to bridge"  and stuff
[07:18] <holycow> Hmmmm, access to the other pbxs is free too? i thought  you had to pay some sort of fee?
[07:18] <Abst> It just refused to
[07:18] <Hmmmm> holycow: I let people use it for free. they an use a softphone, or use a real SIP phone if they want to buy one
[07:18] <Skuz`> Hmmmm you used trixbox before?
[07:18] <Abst> Do you have a disk and something to burn an ISO on?
[07:19] <Abst> !ubotu
[07:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:19] <Hmmmm> holycow: I set up and manage all these PBXs
[07:19] <Hmmmm> InvisiblePinkUni: theres more than enough documentation for asterisk
[07:19] <holycow> Hmmmm, not my area :) i'm just curious how you entered the system like that ... you make it sound like you can just set one up and call for free all you want
[07:19] <holycow> note: i know nothin about telephony :)
[07:19] <kohr_> squeaks, azerous  still cant write to the win32 partiton
[07:20] <Hmmmm> InvisiblePinkUni: start here --> http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php
[07:20] <InvisiblePinkUni> Hmmmm: can i setup a Interactive Voice Response System... to route calls to either my landline or mobile or etc...?
[07:20] <InvisiblePinkUni> Hmmmm: ta
[07:20] <shinta42> abst: i believe there is a command to change the live system from livecd to mounted partition
[07:20] <shinta42> abst:its listed in gentoo handbook ...i dont know if i can find it
[07:20] <bhrobinson> InvisiblePinkUni, I would suggest getting "the book"
[07:20] <squeaks> kohr_, which user are u running azureus as?
[07:20] <Hmmmm> InvisiblePinkUni: yes you can
[07:20] <Abst> This isnt gentoo
[07:20] <Abst> It may not be there
[07:20] <InvisiblePinkUni> bhrobinson: which one?
[07:20] <bhrobinson> InvisiblePinkUni, join the channel #asterisk and ask them for the link
[07:20] <ceruleantiger> does anyone here have experience installing ubuntu on a macbook? The alt-install and liveCD will not even boot citing kernel panic. I picked up a liveCD which will boot here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=160126&package_id=181927&release_id=397932, but unfortunately, this is text only, and does not even have an installer as far as I can tell
[07:21] <bhrobinson> it is from O'Reilly
[07:21] <InvisiblePinkUni> bhrobinson: okily dokily
[07:21] <GigaClon> kohr_, there is an option in azureus that allows it to write to FAT32
[07:21] <QQQOmniD> How would I be able to disable certain users from using certain programs? I have a guest account I'd rather not be using a lot of programs as it might be a security risk
[07:21] <kohr_> squeaks, well, i have the root password
[07:21] <Abst> chmod
[07:21] <ceruleantiger> so does anyone have a guide on installing ubuntu from the command line? I'm guessing this is uncommon/non-existent
[07:21] <Abst> I think
[07:21] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, afaik, macbook is not a power PC
[07:21] <Abst> !installer
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about installer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <kohr_> gigaclon, any idea where it is, or shold i just look
[07:21] <Abst> !install
[07:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:21] <squeaks> kohr_, after mounting, check to see if whatever user is running azureus can write to the fat32 partition
[07:21] <GigaClon> kohr_, just look
[07:21] <bhrobinson> kohr_,  what kind of problem are you having on azureus?
[07:21] <Abst> See the first link, ceruleantiger
[07:22] <ceruleantiger> macbook is not powerpc, but it has EFI in place of BIOS, and the liveCDs are failing because they are making BIOS calls
[07:22] <squeaks> kohr_, say, write a new file or something
[07:22] <holycow> ceruleantiger, what do you mean command line? that question is kinda ... well not clear?
[07:22] <kohr_> bhrobinson, it says failed to create parrent directory
[07:22] <shinta42> abst:okay i will try to figure it out~
[07:22] <shinta42> abst:thanks for ur time
[07:22] <InvisiblePinkUni> cool
[07:22] <JoseStefan> QQQOmni, using groups and chown/chmod is one way
[07:22] <Abst> np
[07:22] <shinta42> abst: i am having problem with enable dma on my harddrive
[07:22] <JoseStefan> QQQOmniD ^^^
[07:22] <InvisiblePinkUni> Hmmmm: bhrobinson: thaks....
[07:22] <shinta42> abst:hdparm gives  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[07:23] <ceruleantiger> holycow: as in, it boots to a command prompt, and that's it. I think they expect me to be able to bring up a whole ubuntu system on just commands in a terminal...
[07:23] <Hmmmm> InvisiblePinkUni: pleasure.
[07:23] <Abst> shinta42: I don't know about DMA sorry...
[07:23] <Abst> !dma
[07:23] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[07:23] <holycow> ceruleantiger, install server
[07:23] <kohr_> squeaks, ah ha, i am not allowed to write on it unless i use my root password
[07:23] <holycow> ceruleantiger, there is no diff between server and desktop, desktop just installs the desktop environment and extra apps
[07:23] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, afaik, macbook is not a power PC
[07:23] <bhrobinson> kohr_,  go download the install from their site and try it. Since it is a Java app, you will not actually have to install it. I have had lots of issues with the one in ubuntu, but the one from them works no prob
[07:23] <ceruleantiger> holycow, server does not work either. The CD will not even BOOT
[07:23] <holycow> ceruleantiger, of course it works, your system is borked
[07:23] <ceruleantiger> JoseStefan: Yeah, it's not powerPC, it's intel. Does that matter?
[07:23] <OmiKrOn> hi *
[07:24] <Abst> Hey
[07:24] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, not sure there
[07:24] <holycow> ceruleantiger, you must have some peculiarity with your box, i've seen on the odd ocasion similar things happenign with debian, but very very very rare
[07:24] <QQQOmniD> JoseStefan How would I use chmod for programs though?
[07:24] <OmiKrOn> what is so innovative that ubuntu brings in the playfield among other linux distros?
[07:24] <holycow> oh this is a macbook?
[07:24] <Abst> QQQOmniD: chmod perms program
[07:24] <ceruleantiger> holycow: I'm telling you it's because macbooks have EFI, and it fails for that reason...
[07:24] <holycow> ah, donno for that i thought you had a pc, sorry.
[07:24] <ceruleantiger> holycow: yeah, this is macbook
[07:24] <holycow> ceruleantiger, that would make sense *nod*
[07:24] <kohr_> bhrobinson, i already installed a diffrent .jar file to fix a diffrent problem, i have the most current version i belive
[07:25] <QQQOmniD> hmmm
[07:25] <OmiKrOn> noone answering my question? :P
[07:25] <bhrobinson> kohr_,  and it will only run as root?
[07:25] <holycow> i think i need to be more open to other hardware configs :) ubuntu is popular enough that we are going to get maccies trying to install it :)
[07:25] <ceruleantiger> holycow: but it's intel based... it's just that it has EFI rather than a standard BIOS, so none of the linux installs are working
[07:25] <Abst> Not really because answering it would take more than the size of any of our harddrives
[07:25] <NickGarvey> OmiKrOn: its often very easy to use, I think a quick google searh would help
[07:25] <NickGarvey> search*
[07:25] <Abst> The answer is so great
[07:26] <OmiKrOn> ah.. very easy to use you say.. so prolly it has more "appliance" to noobz
[07:26] <kohr_> bhrobinson, no, i neec to change the partition so that i can write on it without root i think
[07:26] <holycow> ceruleantiger, *nod* i think you nailed it.  you can do something else tho
[07:26] <ceruleantiger> so anyone know how to install ubuntu from terminal? All I need is a pointer to whatever ubuntu kernel, and a pointer to installing apt-get from scratch and I can handle the rest
[07:26] <Abst> OmiKrOn: Please not trolling us.
[07:26] <Abst> stop*
[07:26] <NickGarvey> OmiKrOn: not "more" but I don't think
[07:26] <holycow> ceruleantiger, at least you can try this: install it on an hd on another box, then plug it into your machine.  say on another laptop hd
[07:27] <twocat> hi, I'm trying to get RPMs to install in ubuntu, so I got alien to install them as .deb ... is it possible to make RPMs "open with" alien (something like typing into the "opens with" "use a custom command" box "gnome-terminal alien -k") or do I have to always select the file from the terminal?
[07:27] <squeaks> kohr_, try umask=0000
[07:27] <OmiKrOn> that starts with the breadth of Debian <--- well it will need a transplant soon
[07:27] <holycow> debian/ubuntu are VERY portable, you can litterally just plug the drive into any pc and it goes (as long as its on the same ide chain id)
[07:27] <holycow> ceruleantiger, that is about as close as you get to installing via command line and bypassing the bios and installer
[07:28] <bhrobinson> check the perms to your/home/<user>/.azureus is where I would go. Like I said though, with the ubuntu version, I could not do anything. I d/l the complete from their site and had zero issues.
[07:28] <holycow> ceruleantiger, does the livecd boot up at all?
[07:28] <bhrobinson> with that, rebooting.
[07:28] <OmiKrOn> nice instructions also very nice putting something on a repo that doesn`t allows the users to login
[07:28] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/MacBook
[07:28] <OmiKrOn> Hold Control and Alt and press Delete. This will reboot your system in a functional state.  <-- intendended for production enviroment machine
[07:28] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/AppleMacBookPro
[07:28] <OmiKrOn> At the first look this looks like a joke not like a OS
[07:28] <Abst> OmiKrOn: Leave.
[07:29] <Abst> Could you code a better one? I don't think so.
[07:29] <OmiKrOn> Abst: it is usually .. Please leave
[07:29] <jamin06> I have a dell laptop and need help joining wireless networks.
[07:29] <holycow> OmiKrOn, your question is irrelevant
[07:29] <OmiKrOn> NO, but i surely USE a better one
[07:29] <Abst> "What would that be?
[07:29] <ceruleantiger> holycow: which one? the one I got from sourceforge will boot to command line, the rest will not even boot
[07:29] <OmiKrOn> redhatbased/bsds
[07:29] <holycow> OmiKrOn, if you cannot see what ubuntu does or why it exists, that says more about yoru inability than anyones wilingness to answer your question
[07:29] <Abst> "Okay
[07:29] <Abst> Good for you..
[07:29] <kohr_> squeaks, it still wont let me create a file
[07:29] <Abst> Go back to it
[07:30] <ceruleantiger> JoseStefan: I was trying to follow this installation that you pointed to and it does not work. That's why I came here
[07:30] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, there is alink at the bottom with tips
[07:30] <jamin06> with windows there was a application that searched for wireless networks. is there something comparable for ubuntu
[07:30] <holycow> ceruleantiger, sourceforge?
[07:30] <OmiKrOn> never had a debian based distro which was cool or innovative. Wannabes
[07:30] <holycow> what does ubuntu haveto do with sourceforge?
[07:30] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, this one? http://bin-false.org/?p=17
[07:30] <holycow> ceruleantiger, i meant ubuntu installer live cd
[07:30] <Abst> ubotu... wiresless
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiresless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <iCod> I'm BORED. Ubuntu works too well, that is all I have to say...
[07:30] <Abst> ubotu... wireless
[07:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:30] <kohr_> jamin06, i belive there is
[07:31] <Abst> There you go jamin06
[07:31] <relachs> iCod try to get WPA to work?
[07:31] <ceruleantiger> holycow: there is a modified ubuntu liveCD that boots to command line that will boot on macbooks because the standard ones from ubuntu's site will not boot
[07:31] <kohr_> jamin06, go to network config
[07:31] <iCod> relachs, I haven't attempted
[07:31] <kohr_> jamin06, and clicky on the wireless network config
[07:31] <holycow> ceruleantiger, ah! :) well then
[07:31] <jamin06> in preferences or admin?
[07:31] <squeaks> kohr_, my last guess is that the mount location is not writeable by your user, try chmod 777 .../mountpoint and remount
[07:32] <holycow> ceruleantiger, i don't use unnoficial cds so hard to comment
[07:32] <kohr_> jamin06, then clicky on the SSID
[07:32] <relachs> iCod go try if you own a wlan, last time i did i killed ubuntu :P
[07:32] <kohr_> jamin06, there shuld be a list
[07:32] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, did you try this one? http://bin-false.org/?p=17
[07:32] <ceruleantiger> holycow: neither do I... I've installed ubuntu at least a dozen times, and nothing like this has ever come up... it's a nightmare..
[07:32] <holycow> ceruleantiger, the best way to find out about how to use that cd is th eauthor of that installer.  i think its cool there is a cd that boots under rmacbook. sweet
[07:32] <kohr_> squeaks. i already did that
[07:32] <jamin06> like automatically?
[07:32] <jamin06> cause there isnt
[07:32] <Abst> !sa
[07:32] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[07:32] <holycow> ceruleantiger, well you are using a mac tho ... how is that surprising?
[07:33] <squeaks> sorry, i'm out of ideas
[07:33] <ceruleantiger> JoseStefan: Yeah, I tried it. What link are you referring to? it's taking me a while to sort through the comments...
[07:33] <iCod> relachs, I don't own one, maybe I should though
[07:33] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, this one: http://bin-false.org/?p=17
[07:33] <Generic> pardon the spammage, but ubuntu users will love this: http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[07:34] <bhrobinson> sethk, that did not mount
[07:34] <ceruleantiger> JoseStefan: yeah, that link does not work... why do you keep pasting the same one?
[07:34] <relachs> Guys im off, if i log on next time im in east germany =D *rrrrrhh*
[07:34] <kohr_> jamin06,did that work?
[07:34] <Abst> haha
[07:34] <jamin06> no
[07:34] <Abst> thats brilliant
[07:34] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, you asked "what link"
[07:34] <Abst> put it on
[07:34] <Abst> #linux
[07:34] <dfgas> !upgrade
[07:34] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:34] <jamin06> im not really sure exactly what im trying
[07:34] <kohr_> jamin06,its in the wireless network config
[07:35] <jamin06> what is, kohr?
[07:35] <kohr_> the scanner thing
[07:36] <kohr_> when you click ont he ssid
[07:36] <sethk> bhrobinson, what happens if you do   mount /path   (/path is the local mount point of the nfs mount)    use sudo, of course
[07:36] <kohr_> it displays a list of all ssids available
[07:36] <ceruleantiger> JoseStefan:  oh, well my misunderstanding.
[07:36] <kohr_> i think
[07:36] <kohr_> try that
[07:36] <sethk> bhrobinson, by giving it just the path, you force it to use the /etc/fstab settings
[07:36] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, or mine
[07:37] <bhrobinson> sethk, it works that way
[07:37] <Abst> Quiet
[07:37] <sethk> bhrobinson,  we can add that statement to one of the init scripts and hack around the problem that way.
[07:37] <kohr_> ok, now i am trying to get permission to write to a win32 partiton
[07:37] <sethk> bhrobinson, I'm not sure why it isn't mounting, though
[07:38] <sethk> bhrobinson, let me check one thing
[07:38] <Abst> !ntfs
[07:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:38] <ceruleantiger> holycow JoseStefan: Actually, my bad, I just tried again, and it booted to the initial start screen (the one where it gives you options on what install to do), but once I actually select one, it fails (for liveCD). I'm trying the options with the alt-install disk right now
[07:39] <hoxzer> :/
[07:39] <kohr_> jamin06, any luck?
[07:39] <holycow> ceruleantiger, *nod* try the text installer on that one
[07:39] <Abst> Hey hoxzer
[07:39] <kohr_> ok, now i am trying to get permission to write to a win32 partiton
[07:39] <sethk> bhrobinson, do man nfs  make sure you are looking at the nfs man page in section 5    it shows some examples of nfs entries in /etc/fstab
[07:39] <kohr_> one problem at a time
[07:39] <ceruleantiger> holycow: yeah, I went mac... OSX bothered me though, although I have to admit it was cool for 3 weeks... I'm missing my linux though, thus I'm desperately trying to get it on this macbook :P
[07:39] <bhrobinson> ok cool... I will look
[07:39] <holycow> ceruleantiger, really?
[07:39] <holycow> lol!
[07:39] <holycow> whoa cool!
[07:40] <kohr_> ceruleantiger, once you go mac, you never go back
[07:40] <sethk>  bhrobinson look at the bg option, that looks promising
[07:40] <holycow> welcome back, well personally i think its cool whatever people choose to use
[07:40] <ceruleantiger> holycow: pricewise and designwise, it's still a very good deal, even if I don't use their software :P
[07:40] <holycow> ceruleantiger, i'm curious what you decided about osx that was enough for you?
[07:40] <ceruleantiger> kohr_: well, apparently I do go back :) ubuntu rocks
[07:40] <JoseStefan> holycow, even if they use Windows ME ?
[07:41] <mkquist_> lol
[07:41] <sethk> bhrobinson, I'm nodding out here, but I'll talk to you tomorrow if I'm gone tonight
[07:41] <holycow> JoseStefan, as long as they don't call me for help :)
[07:41] <ceruleantiger> memory management stunk, the gui was hard to navigate through with a keyboard (i.e. no keyboard shortcuts for a lot of things, no custom keybindings, and lots of little things that you don't really notice until they're gone)
[07:41] <ceruleantiger> not to mention, it ran hot as hell, and OSX is not great about turning on fans/underclocking the CPU...
[07:41] <bhrobinson> sethk, thanks again
[07:41] <sethk> bhrobinson, np,
[07:41] <kohr_> ok, now i am trying to get permission to write to a win32 partiton. any help?
[07:42] <Abst> !repeat
[07:42] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:42] <holycow> ceruleantiger, yeah, when i used it a couple of times to help a new user learn it i just hated th eui
[07:42] <JoseStefan> kohr_, did you search the wiki?
[07:42] <ceruleantiger> holycow: I can't even put it on my lap after 40 minutes tops... and that's just while browsing the web...
[07:42] <kohr_> ok
[07:42] <holycow> ceruleantiger, just another 'de' ... i like my gnome
[07:42] <kohr_> i will wiki it
[07:42] <holycow> ceruleantiger, they overheat?
[07:42] <Abst> !ntfs
[07:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:42] <Abst> Go there
[07:42] <JoseStefan> ceruleantiger, turn off the heater feature, that's only for cold weather
[07:42] <ceruleantiger> holycow: I like my kde :) Either way, OSX kicks window's butt, but it's just not for me I guess
[07:43] <ceruleantiger> heh
[07:43] <kohr_> !patience
[07:43] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:43] <hoxzer> !fuser
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <birdfish> How do I go about editing menus and figuring out paths to various applications and commands?
[07:43] <holycow> ceruleantiger, neat.  thanks for the heads up.  i knkow people like their osx, but like you i think our de's are more advanced in certain areas
[07:43] <holycow> and if the hardware manufacturers played nice we would have an amazingly easy plug and play system for everything
[07:43] <muhammad> heey is there any PDFcreator i can download ?
[07:43] <birdfish> I'd like to put the places and system menus into the main applications menu and then create a lock screen and log out menu item
[07:43] <ceruleantiger> holycow: they have SERIOUS overheating problems. I've never touched a laptop like that before. They think that people prefer a silent laptop to a cool one, so they hardly ever turn on fans... it gets to be like 80 C, which is nuts
[07:44] <CaptainMorgan> does ubuntu support mounting partitions if the processor is dual core or 64-bit?
[07:44] <holycow> ceruleantiger, wow
[07:44] <nocti> what gui ftp client can you guys recommend? thanks
[07:44] <ladydoor> you're welcome
[07:44] <holycow> CaptainMorgan, cpu makes no diff, if it installs it works
[07:44] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, you think that if you have two cpus, you can't mount?
[07:44] <Abst> Ladydoor is back
[07:44] <ladydoor> and now she's gone again
[07:44] <ceruleantiger> holycow: even with text install mode, I still get kernel panic, so it's definitely something with BIOS calls... unfortunately nobody seems to document these things... :(
[07:44] <orlock> holycow: tell me about it - nvidia have fucked up their PCI Class on nForce 430 boards it seems
[07:45] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, that can't be what you meant
[07:45] <JoseStefan> birdfish: Applications, Accesories, Alacarte
[07:45] <orlock> holycow: they have assignd their erthernet controller a class of Bridge instead of Network Device.
[07:45] <holycow> orlock, really? i didn't hear about that ... what is the scoop on that?
[07:45] <ceruleantiger> holycow: if I'd known that linux was this hard to install, I may well have bought another laptop instead... :(
[07:45] <birdfish> JoseStefan, I can't eliminate the Places and System menu through that
[07:45] <holycow> orlock, oh really?
[07:45] <holycow> wow
[07:45] <birdfish> JoseStefan, Also, I want to be able to view the paths to the menu items before I remove them
[07:45] <orlock> holycow: yeah, i am trying to figure out if its worth telling them
[07:45] <huck> nocti: try gftp
[07:45] <CaptainMorgan> I run ubuntu now on my laptop and was desiring to run Fedora on my desktop, but since installation, I can't mount Win partitions for some reason, my /etc/fstab is by default empty, and now Im thinking of installation Ubuntu
[07:46] <orlock> holycow: it means any hardware autodetect scripts that trust the PCI classes they get wont think its an ethernet device
[07:46] <CaptainMorgan> holycow, someone in #windows said it does at least for Win..
[07:46] <holycow> ceruleantiger, ah i really wish i could help dude, i just don't use macs.  :-/ appologies for the unhelpfull answers
[07:46] <nocti> thanks huck
[07:46] <huck> sure thing
[07:46] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, not for win, not for linux, not for anything
[07:46] <muhammad> is there any PDFcreator i can download ?
[07:46] <holycow> orlock, so once again, we get fawkin proprietary vendor hardware hell
[07:46] <orlock> muhammad: ghostscript
 thx alot
[07:47] <holycow> orlock, this is exactly why windows is hell.  everyone does whatever the hell they want - and they think os peeps can't make up their minds ...
[07:47] <thybo> muhammad: open office does it i believe:)
[07:47] <ceruleantiger> holycow: this isn't just for macs, although macs seem to be the first to implement this new EFI standard. In the future, you'll be seeing more and more of this as OEMs move from BIOS to EFI... It's just unfortunate that I have to be on the front lines :P
[07:47] <orlock> holycow: it _works_, the open source driver works fine if its installed, its just things like kudzu for redhat that look at the pci hardware list.. it doesnt appear as a network device to them. been banging my head against a wall on this for a week or so
[07:47] <muhammad> thybo> opss thx alottt :-)
[07:47] <ceruleantiger> holycow: Anyways, thanks for the time. Even though you couldn't really answer anything, I still appreciate the effort :) holycow++
[07:47] <STEEK> where do i get the libglib-1.2.so.0 file for ubuntu?
[07:48] <chris86wm> are there any freecell/salitaire/hearts games that are similar to the ones that come default on windows?
[07:48] <holycow> CaptainMorgan, what seth said
[07:48] <nigel> Hexidigital: I got disconnected !!!
[07:48] <chris86wm> looking for some for an older lady and they must be VERY similar
[07:48] <holycow> ceruleantiger, *hmm* interesting
[07:49] <holycow> orlock, *nod* i getcha
[07:49] <radioaktivstorm> hello, how do i go root to edit read only system files?
[07:49] <wd3>  holycow what r ur thoughts on? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=245397
[07:49] <apokryphos> radioaktivstorm: /msg ubotu root
[07:49] <JoseStefan> birdfish: go to /usr/share/applications/   view the .desktop files
[07:49] <wd3> holycow, oh yeah what's up long time.
[07:49] <Tired_> Hello. What tools does Ubuntu have available for software RAID?
[07:49] <birdfish> JoseStefan: okay
[07:50] <huck> Tired_: dmraid i beileve is one, should be on the live disk
[07:50] <sahara_arvind> hi there i have a serious query
[07:50] <ezu> Hi all, how do I uninstall java from ubuntu?
[07:51] <holycow> wd3, i wouldn't bother even trying installing anything on that.  not enough ram for anything at all any more.  you might be able to get away with a very very light desktop environment at best and only run two apps at the same time
[07:51] <Tired_> where can I find a list of tools ubuntu has, by category?
[07:51] <holycow> never mind the cpu being slow, you will simply be paging all day to hd with that little ram
[07:51] <radioaktivstorm> thanks apokryphos! :D
[07:51] <sahara_arvind> I wish to use ubuntu as an server with xampp running on it for hosting the intranet portal for my college.... is that justified?
[07:52] <holycow> also th elinux kernel has a 'hard' time when you run out of ram ... i forget the technical term but it really strugles ... at least with the dapper kernel, that may be fixed at some point in th efuture
[07:52] <huck> ezu: did you try Synaptic?
[07:52] <holycow> sahara_arvind, why not? linux makes a fantastic server.  its free and very powerfull
[07:52] <wd3> holycow, thanks i kinda thought so.... :(  well i guess i'll keep looking on ebay... for a cheap laptop
[07:52] <mkquist_> !software raid
[07:52] <Tired_> my system is sorta peculiar...it seems to like the way certain tools do things...must be a dell thing
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about software raid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <holycow> sahara_arvind,  a bigger problem you might run into is licencing of the stuff your hosting :)
[07:52] <sahara_arvind> holycow ty for replying
[07:52] <aanderse> hello, i am having a very strange problem im hoping i can have some help with ...
[07:52] <holycow> sahara_arvind, no probs, great nick btw
[07:52] <aanderse> my desktop background has dissapeared
[07:53] <ezu> Hunk, Actually my real problem is that I installed flashplayer but I have no audio ???
[07:53] <sahara_arvind> holycow i have tried ubuntu on desktop and i liked it .......
[07:53] <aanderse> my window manager is still in tact, so are my panels
[07:53] <sahara_arvind> ty holycow
[07:53] <holycow> or rather ... i read your nick as sahara_wind ... which would technically be a great misread nick :)
[07:53] <holycow> lol
[07:53] <aanderse> but my desktop background is just gone, like all the icons on the desktop, and i can't right click on it
[07:53] <orlock> holycow: heh, just emailed nvidia bout it, bet i wont get a esponse...
[07:53] <huck> ezu: are you listening to something else at the same time?
[07:53] <holycow> sahara_arvind, it really depends on your skills but you can install ubuntu server edition, its the same just leaves out the desktop and other desktop related apps
[07:53] <sahara_arvind> holycow do u mind replying to few more queries
[07:53] <gary4gar> can anyone help me in bruning cur/bin files in k3b
[07:53] <holycow> orlock, i guess we are lucky they spend any money on us as it is
[07:54] <holycow> sahara_arvind, just ask if i can't answer others might
[07:54] <whazill> hey
[07:54] <m_technic> does anyone knows how to setup a dialup-connection ?
[07:54] <whazill> how do i resize my ext3 in ubuntu ?
[07:54] <ezu> hunk: no. am trying to hear audio and there is none
[07:54] <nigel> Hexidigital: You here ?
[07:54] <CVpumas61> Any1 use a MN-730 wirless pci card?
[07:54] <whazill> not me
[07:55] <holycow> m_technic, its the same as in windows you need to install the dialer software and yhou need a supported modem ... of which there are very very few these days
[07:55] <aanderse> can anyone help me with my desktop dissapearing problem?
[07:55] <whazill> prisma card for me
 u have to use gparted but do backup ur data!
[07:55] <whazill> how i backup ?
[07:55] <huck> ezu: type this in a terminal and see if you have more than one sound card: aplay -l
[07:55] <holycow> if its a laptops chances are you will have problems, if its a desktop you can maybe get a hardware 3com if you are lucky
[07:55] <Warbo> aanderse: Try running "nautilus &"
[07:55] <whazill> isn't the data preserved ?
[07:55] <m_technic> holycow, does it support internal modem ?
[07:55] <sahara_arvind> holycow i was thinking of two options 1. to use ubuntu desktop version+xampp 2. ubuntu server edition+any control panel. I also have to assign a public IP (which i have spare) and a domain name to this proposed server ....... i wish to know more about its feasibility
[07:55] <aanderse> :o
[07:56] <whazill> or backup for possible infrigment ?
[07:56] <aanderse> oh my gosh i think i might die of shock
[07:56] <whazill> heh
[07:56] <holycow> m_technic, internal laptops modesm are usually WINMODEMS
[07:56] <holycow> they aren't real modems but fake software based modems
[07:56] <holycow> usually those DON'T work on linux
[07:56] <aanderse> not only did someone respond to me, but they fixed my problem too! i love open source software!
[07:56] <whazill> aanderse why shocked ?
[07:56] <aanderse> thanks! :D
[07:56] <hoxzer> Aargh
[07:56] <m_technic> oh!... thats why ubuntu donnt see my internal modem.
 u have automatix installed??
[07:56] <philip> who uses modems anymore? I haven't used mine for the last 5 years at least
[07:57] <holycow> you can try using the windows driver using a conversion app but ...
[07:57] <sahara_arvind> holycow i would be needing apache+php+mysql (all latest versions) and my heart says that if i use any control panel onto ubuntu server then it may be easy to configure it for mails, domain name assigning etc......
[07:57] <holycow> m_technic, what you MUST do is lookup the exact model of your laptop, find the exact modem and check if its supported.  if it is supported you need to find the installation and config information for your device
[07:57] <Warbo> linmodems.org
[07:57] <Warbo> ^ They helped me a few years ago
[07:57] <holycow> oh forgot, yeah that might give you enough info
[07:57] <sahara_arvind> holycow i found configuring apache and mysql separately a complex task
[07:58] <holycow> sahara_arvind, on linux generally EVERYTHING seems complex until you learn it
[07:58] <ezu> hunk: I have two cards, embedded and pci
[07:58] <whazill> what is automatix again ?
[07:58] <whazill> i'm updating to dapper atm
[07:58] <holycow> sahara_arvind, AFTER THAT its beyond stupid easy
[07:58] <Warbo> !automatix
[07:58] <whazill> can't check
[07:58] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:58] <sahara_arvind> agreed holycow
[07:58] <huck> ezu: do you get sound from anything else?
[07:58] <leopardus> I need to configure my ubuntu as a terminal server for X applications?
[07:58] <holycow> sahara_arvind, there is no real way to overcome the need to understand what you are using and what you are running and how to set it up ... we don't really have wizards per se
[07:58] <ezu> if am not using the browser it works fine.
[07:59] <JoseStefan> !-fhs
[07:59] <ubotu> fhs is <alias> files - added by apokryphos on 2006-08-30 07:54:40
[07:59] <whazill> do i need automatix installed ?
[07:59] <holycow> sahara_arvind, perhaps you can google up and see if anyone has setup the same thing and if they offer how tos
[07:59] <whazill> gary4gar ?
[07:59] <leopardus> I need to configure my ubuntu as a terminal server for X applications?
[07:59] <holycow> sahara_arvind, as an example, i needed to setup a spam blocking server and found instructions
[07:59] <yoshiznit123> hey everyone, I've found three different drivers to access my ext3 partitions from windows (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html, http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm), anybody have experience with those and know which is best?
[07:59] <huck> ezu: then that's beyond me... someone else might be able to help. Or you can try this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive+sound
 just go to applications/system/ and check if it is there??
[07:59] <sahara_arvind> holycow thanks.....
[08:00] <leopardus> I need to configure my ubuntu as a terminal server for X applications?
[08:00] <pontifex> yoshiznit123: i have used the ext2ifs one, and it "just worked"
[08:00] <Warbo> terminal server?
[08:00] <sahara_arvind> holycow can i ask about hardware (old spare server which i have) , whether the config is fine for ubuntu?
[08:00] <yoshiznit123> pontifex, is that the second or third? (they're both called ext2ifs)
[08:00] <holycow> sahara_arvind, most old  hardware will just work.  all you can do is really just try it.  if something doesn't work you will need to look it up.  no hard and fast rules really
[08:01] <ezu> Thanks a bunch hunk
[08:01] <huck> sure, wish I could've been more helpful
[08:01] <holycow> sahara_arvind, its very rare for old hardware not to work unles it has some weird chipset or config
ok don't install automatix, tell me u have dapper or beezy
[08:01] <kohr_> how do i change the write permissions to a folder
[08:01] <Bot_Builder> I pretty much have screwed over my ubuntu by attempting to upgrade cairo
[08:01] <yoshiznit123> tired_, it's for sharing a partition between windows and linux
[08:01] <Warbo> kohr_: chmod (use -R to go recursive through it)
[08:01] <sahara_arvind> holycow i have a P3 500, dual processor, 1 GB ram and 72 GB HDD, will it be able to server to atleast 20 pcs at any given time in the LAN?
[08:01] <Bot_Builder> I attempted an install from a debian deb after removing the old version
[08:01] <pontifex> yoshiznit123: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html that one
[08:02] <Bot_Builder> then proceeded to install a new version of libc which it depends on
[08:02] <kohr_> warbo, i tried that, it doesn;t change them
[08:02] <holycow> sahara_arvind, probably very easily
[08:02] <Tired_> oh, this is one I was curious about...will Ubuntu choke on bootup when it loads the kernel module for a 4-port NIC, of which only one port is is use?
[08:02] <sahara_arvind> ok
[08:02] <Warbo> Bot_Builder: Ha, I tried to install a new libc once. I reinstalled :)
[08:02] <Bot_Builder> and now pretty much synaptic wants to delete everything on teh system to remove the new version of libc...
[08:02] <yoshiznit123> pontifex, ok thanks, i was kinda leaning towards that one :-)
[08:02] <kohr_> warbo sudo chmod /data o=rwx
[08:02] <Bot_Builder> yeah, pretty retarded
[08:02] <holycow> later
[08:02] <kohr_> warbo sudo chmod /data o=rwx -R
???
[08:03] <huck> ezu: just a thought, have you tried disabling one sound card? maybe the onboard one (if you have one) through the BIOS?
[08:03] <Warbo> kohr_: I am not sure of chmod's exact syntax (I usually use numbers)
[08:03] <Bot_Builder> I mean, I thought linux package stuff was good.  This is plain orrible
[08:03] <kohr_> warbo, its right, i tried it with numbers too
[08:03] <Warbo> Bot_Builder: OK, 1) DO NOT remove libc6 to install the new version after
[08:04] <kohr_> warbo i am looking at a page that says the syntax, its correct
[08:04] <Warbo> Bot_Builder: 2) You can use options like "sudo dpkg --force-depends -r packagename" to remove a package (or -i to install)
[08:04] <holycow> lol
[08:04] <holycow> never ever remove libc6
[08:04] <kohr_> warbo could the fact that a partition is mounted there have anything to do with it?
[08:04] <holycow> almost everything depends on that
[08:04] <Bot_Builder> yeah i know warbo - I did that to remove the old cairo
[08:04] <Warbo> kohr_: Try putting sudo ahead of it
[08:04] <holycow> you may as wall just install the entire new update if you dare
[08:05] <kohr_> i have been
[08:05] <kohr_> warbo, i have been
[08:05] <Warbo> Bot_Builder: Well don't remove then install, just try to install over the old one
[08:05] <Bot_Builder> godamnit, now both my windows and linux is bricked
[08:05] <Bot_Builder> how would i do that?
[08:05] <holycow> Bot_Builder, answer yes when it says do you want to install the new lib6
[08:06] <Bot_Builder> uh, where's that?  I'm already on dapper drake. fresh instal
[08:06] <Tired_> do Ubuntu kernel versions still carry open Debian kernel bugs?
[08:06] <holycow> *scroll* *scroll*
[08:06] <Warbo> Bot_Builder: "sudo dpkg --force-depends --force-downgrade -i proper-cairo-package.deb"
[08:07] <Tired_> there's an old wontfix bug that prevents a Debian kernel from booting on this model of Dell...I"m wondering if Ubuntu would have inherited that
[08:07] <holycow> Bot_Builder, you tried to remove libc6? for that yes it will try to remove everything
[08:07] <Tired_> i'd hate to get my system all partitioned and cleaned, then unbootable
[08:08] <kohr_> warbo, i am going to try rebooting
[08:08] <Bot_Builder> holycow - no, i installed a new one
[08:08] <Bot_Builder> but it depends on a dependancy I can't install
[08:08] <holycow> Bot_Builder, yeah it will try to remove everything or upgrade it as necessary
[08:08] <Bot_Builder> it needs 'tzdata'
[08:09] <Bot_Builder> and downgrade appears to want to remove everything that depends on it
[08:09] <lostsync> hey is there a way to list the most recent packages you installed from apt?  like say the last 20 or so?
[08:09] <Bot_Builder> bloody mess
[08:09] <holycow> Bot_Builder, well the upgrade the libc6 upgraded everything as well right?
[08:09] <Warbo> Bot_Builder: Did you upgrade or dist-upgrade after installing it?
[08:09] <holycow> the new stuff cannot run on the old libc6 thus it will try to remove it
[08:09] <Bot_Builder> uh... no... I got a libc6 deb
[08:10] <holycow> you may need to allow it to remove everything then reinstall the desktop environment
[08:10] <holycow> but it would be easier to backup /home and reinsall
[08:10] <holycow> reinstall
[08:10] <Warbo> I was about to say backup "sudo dpkg -l", but in this case it might be a mistake :)
[08:10] <holycow> Bot_Builder, yeah you can't JUST install libc6 ... everything else needs to be pulled along with it
[08:10] <ezu> hunk: yes. it didn't help at all. thanks,
[08:11] <holycow> what you have now is a newer libc6 and NOTHING that can use it
[08:11] <Bot_Builder> holycow - well, I'm mostly a linux noob
[08:11] <Bot_Builder> yeah.  broken packages
[08:11] <holycow> Bot_Builder, thats okay, the cool thing is you don't haveto phone anyone to 'reactivate' it during reinstall :)
[08:11] <ezu> Hunk, am trying the forum you sent.
[08:11] <holycow> Bot_Builder, all in learning
[08:11] <holycow> Bot_Builder, if your anoob and don't want to futs, backup your /home and reinstall
[08:11] <Warbo> Bot_Builder: Yet you still try to install a different version of the C library :)
[08:11] <holycow> its simple and painless
[08:11] <Bot_Builder> well, maybe not that much of a noob
[08:11] <holycow> you tried doing something without understanding the consequences, no biggie
[08:12] <Bot_Builder> I think i stuck my home on a seperate partition
[08:12] <holycow> even  bettah :)
[08:12] <Warbo> Seems you are ignarant of your ignorance. I, however, know that I am an idiot :)
[08:12] <Bot_Builder> warbo - cairo said it needed it :P
[08:12] <Bot_Builder> lol
[08:12] <holycow> Warbo, rofl
[08:12] <holycow> i'm wallowing in mine dude
[08:12] <holycow> heh
[08:13] <Bot_Builder> why can't i just mystically magically downgrade?
[08:13] <Bot_Builder> is it really that hard?
[08:13] <holycow> Bot_Builder, it seems simple on the surface but the process is complicated enough that its simpler to just reinstall
[08:13] <Warbo> Bot_Builder: I only know options for dpkg, which means doing it on a per-package basis
[08:14] <holycow> so no one has bothered to try writing such a thing
[08:14] <holycow> no sense in writing such a tool when reinstall is just as fast
[08:14] <lostsync> Bot_Builder, i screwed up the other day and updated some dbus things for BMPx which made all my mono apps die
[08:14] <Bot_Builder> warbo - I did this on a per-package basis so i can probably get out of it on a per-package basis
[08:14] <holycow> i don't even install any more it takes 3 minutes to image an hd with a fresh install
[08:14] <holycow> Bot_Builder, not wihtout a lot of work, its far faster to reinstall
[08:15] <kohr_> OK EVERYBODY, it works not, thank you very much for being so helpful
[08:15] <lostsync> i just searched for the package+version +.deb on google, it brought me to a page on packages.ubuntu.com where i could dl the packages in question and install them via dkpg -i package-name-and-version.deb
[08:15] <tehsu> Whats a normal temp for a centrino durring ubuntu while compiling a new kernel?
[08:15] <kohr_> *works now
[08:15] <e-type> mornign all
[08:15] <lostsync> downgraded just fine and now everything works, except BMPx, which i didnt really even like
[08:15] <Warbo> Bot_Builder: Just backup stuff in /etc which you have changed, maybe a list of your installed packages (minus the libc6, and that wouldn't reinstall anyway if you manually got a .deb) then backup /home. Also backup anything in /var/lib which may be useful (I have mldonkey-server and boinc-manager in there which I would like to transfer)
[08:15] <holycow> lostsync, why?
[08:15] <holycow> lostsync, why don't you just enable all of your repositories and install using synaptic
[08:15] <holycow> lostsync, thats just a web based list of packages available to you already
[08:15] <lostsync> because i did it my way
[08:16] <holycow> then stop doing the stupid way
[08:16] <holycow> and do it the right way
[08:16] <lostsync> yeah but when you update your repos
[08:16] <lostsync> and a repo has a newer version than another repo
[08:16] <holycow> no it doesn't
[08:16] <holycow> if ti does
[08:16] <lostsync> the older (official) version is no longer avail
[08:16] <holycow> its only temporary out of synch
[08:16] <holycow> lostsync, thats stupid
[08:16] <holycow> and not true
[08:16] <lostsync> dude fuck off
[08:16] <holycow> official repos are all offical
[08:16] <Flannel> !language
[08:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:16] <Warbo> lostsync: If you want the old one again then disable the new repo and update apt
[08:17] <lostsync> yeah i tried that but it wasn't playing nice
[08:17] <holycow> lol
[08:17] <Warbo> I wonder why.....
[08:17] <lostsync> point is i fixed it by downloading .debs and all's well now
[08:17] <Warbo> That is what backports are for
[08:17] <sethk> Warbo, yes, exactly
[08:17] <holycow> like we are telling you, do it right
[08:18] <gary4gar> can anyone help with burning /cue/bin image files in K3b?????
[08:18] <lostsync> right == working == my computer
[08:18] <Warbo> !info bchunk
[08:18] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[08:18] <Warbo> gary4gar: Use bchunk to convert it to iso first, that is easier
[08:18] <gary4gar> ok
[08:18] <holycow> Warbo, thanks for that, didn't know about that app
[08:19] <gary4gar> apt-get
[08:19] <Warbo> I don't think I've ever seen a bin/cue combination, but it crops up often
[08:19] <holycow> Warbo, mostly warez
[08:19] <holycow> >_>
[08:19] <lostsync> ...bin cue is extremely common
[08:19] <Warbo> The only CDs I download are distros and stuff
[08:20] <cynical> I love ubuntu
[08:20] <gary4gar> ya i tried using k3b but it said *.bin not found!
[08:20] <gary4gar> now will try with bchunk
[08:21] <Warbo> I wouldn't get software illegally
[08:21] <gary4gar> hey where it is installed??
[08:21] <Warbo> gary4gar: Run "man bchunk"
[08:21] <gary4gar> ok
[08:21] <Warbo> Data can't phone home, software can
[08:21] <Warbo> (Not that I get Data illegally of course, just pointing it out)
[08:21] <Bot_Builder> then again the difference between data and software is blurring
[08:22] <Bot_Builder> stupid von neumann :P
[08:22] <Dummey> is the forum down for anybody else?
[08:23] <mrfoobar> it won't submit posts for me, but I can still view it
[08:23] <denver1> can anyone tell me howto make a bootable cd using Smart boot Manager?
[08:23] <Warbo> I started a thread yesterday, and it isn't there
[08:23] <holycow> they are having problems
 i obly got cue/bin files whats base file in it??
[08:24] <holycow> something about a server and smoke coming out of it
[08:24] <mrfoobar> They seem to have turned search for unregistered users back on, that might be the prob
[08:24] <Warbo> gary4gar: That is the iso you want to make
 i can enter any name??
[08:24] <Warbo> I think "bchunk mydisk.bin mydisk.cue mydisk"
[08:24] <mkquist_> dummey-forums not down for me... im assuming ubuntu forums
[08:24] <deep> I need some help with grub-instal. :O
[08:24] <Warbo> (for example)
[08:25] <Dummey> hmm forums came back up
[08:25] <Dummey> it was lagged out for a min there
[08:25] <gary4gar> ok will try and tell <Warbo>
[08:25] <deep> I dunno how to do it. I have windows installed on hda and ubuntu at hdb..
[08:25] <deep> Winduws nuked grub. :/
[08:25] <Warbo> !grub
[08:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:25] <deep> Thax
[08:26] <deep> thanx*
[08:26] <mrfoobar> would anyone know why the ubuntu terminal wouldn't recogize backquoting (e.g  cd /lib/modules/'uname -r'/kernel/drivers)?
[08:26] <Warbo> mrfoobar: You mean `uname -r`
[08:26] <Warbo> (top left for me, ionstead of mid right)
[08:26] <JoseStefan> mrfoobar, use `  not '
[08:26] <Warbo> *instead
[08:26] <mrfoobar> ahh
[08:27] <sethk> mrfoobar, you should always use  $(...)  rather than back ticks in any event
[08:27] <sethk> back ticks are not re-entrent, and they are a c shell anachronism that should never be used
[08:27] <e-type> sethk: explain?
[08:27] <Warbo> sethk: What's the advantage? (other than being able to nest them)
[08:27] <e-type> just for posix stuff?
[08:27] <Warbo> OK, you answered me
[08:27] <sethk> :)
[08:27] <mrfoobar> thanks
[08:28] <Warbo> I may change some help pages.....
[08:28] <brendonjt> hi all
[08:28] <Warbo> hello
[08:29] <blk> hi everybody, is there a chan for edgy developers/testers?
[08:29] <Warbo> I think I might get some sleep whilst these packages install
[08:29] <brendonjt> me having a right so so of a night,  my second hdd  died  so  only have a 10gb drive now
[08:29] <holycow> blk, #ubuntu-devel
[08:29] <sethk> brendonjt, hope you didn't lose anything important
[08:29] <blk> holycow: thanks
[08:29] <Warbo> blk: #ubuntu+1 for Edgy users, I would guess #ubuntu-devel for developers
[08:29] <holycow> brendonjt, *nod* it does tend to happen that way
[08:30] <brendonjt> holycow: sethk:  family pics, holiday pics all my mp3's
[08:30] <holycow> :/
[08:30] <holycow> ouch
[08:30] <Dummey> pst, i'm reading on the forums that i need to install daper, but how do i do that without internet?
[08:30] <holycow> brendonjt, btw
[08:30] <holycow> just because it failed doesn't me the data is gone
[08:30] <sethk> brendonjt, put the drive in the fridge for a couple of hours.  frequently you can squeeze enough life out of it to back it up that way
[08:30] <holycow> you can recover from most hd failures, there are service beraus that take hds apart and read the data
[08:30] <brendonjt> holycow: umm the bios dosn't reconise it at all
[08:31] <holycow> brendonjt, thats fine
[08:31] <sethk> holycow, that's true, but the fridge trick is a lot cheaper :)
[08:31] <holycow> service beauraus take the platters out and put them in their own setups
[08:31] <JoseStefan> holycow, as long as you take it to them right away
[08:31] <holycow> sethk, indeed brendonjt try the fridge thing first :)
[08:32] <brendonjt> holycow: that actually works how does that work???
[08:32] <JoseStefan> sethk, fridge trick is double sided sword
[08:32] <Dummey> err guys, is ubuntu suppose to freeze coming out of screensaver mode?
[08:32] <brendonjt> josestefan: wot you mean?
[08:33] <e-type> Dummey: is that a question?
[08:33] <Dummey> e-type: yes it is
[08:33] <AndrukTatum> how do i get the ubuntu live CD to mount all partitions automatically, like knoppix?
[08:33] <e-type> Dummey: I think you know the answer ;)
[08:33] <JoseStefan> brendonjt, putting your hard drive in the freezer, while it might make it work enough to get data out, it will kill it faster
[08:33] <Dummey> e-type: no i mean, is it suppose to pop up a enter user name prompt or something
[08:33] <e-type> AndrukTatum: you don't, a live cd is not supposed to mount any drives, it's supposed to run by itself
[08:33] <AndrukTatum> JoseStefan: that absolutely right
[08:34] <sethk> JoseStefan, that's true, I'm assuming it's dead, so there isn't much to lose
[08:34] <AndrukTatum> e-type: then how do i get it to mount my drives?
[08:34] <e-type> Dummey: if you lock your screen, yes, a simple screensave, no
[08:34] <sethk> JoseStefan, if it is still working, then I just keep hammering on it until I get the data off
[08:34] <JoseStefan> sethk, try does hard drive service centers
[08:34] <JoseStefan> those*
[08:34] <wheelswitch> does xmms have some sort of media library view?
[08:34] <sethk> JoseStefan, I didn't say freeze, I said fridge
[08:34] <sethk> JoseStefan, which is much different
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> wheelswitch: like a playlist?
[08:34] <wheelswitch> i know rhythm box does, but it dies, i think my music collection is too big
[08:35] <e-type> wheelswitch: plain xmms doesn't
[08:35] <brendonjt> josestefan: oh ok,  but the bios  don't even pick it up now  i get the error  primary ide channel no 80 conductor cable installed
[08:35] <sethk> JoseStefan, it will not damage the drive to cool it.  To freeze it, I agree, isn't wise
[08:35] <wheelswitch> well more a rhythm box type view fyrestrtr
[08:35] <Madpilot> wheelswitch, try Muine, I like it's UI for browsing collections
[08:35] <JoseStefan> sethk, ok, at how many degrees are we supposed to put it?
[08:35] <sethk> JoseStefan, most drives are rated from about 55 F
[08:35] <tehsu> make[5] : *** [drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zddevlist.h]  Error 1
[08:35] <JoseStefan> if you have a "controller error", cooling it shouldnt make a difference at all, you should take it to a recovery center
[08:35] <e-type> AndrukTatum: did they show up in locations - > computer ?
[08:35] <sethk> JoseStefan, I wouldn't go below the drive's low temperature rating
[08:36] <wheelswitch> Madpilot:  here goes...
[08:36] <AndrukTatum> JoseStefan: in my experience, as long as it feels cool to the touch, youre good to go, but you might have to do it more than once
[08:36] <JoseStefan> i thought cooling was for platter and head issues
[08:36] <JoseStefan> if the chips are bad, it wont do a thing
[08:37] <sethk> JoseStefan, yes, I agree
[08:37] <AndrukTatum> e-type: they do, but i cant access them nor change their permissions
[08:37] <sethk> JoseStefan, a PCB thermal is theoretically possible, but I've never seen one for that type of sudden failure
[08:37] <JoseStefan> one thing is certain, the more trials-and-error you do, the less likely a service center can recover the data
[08:37] <sethk> JoseStefan, yes, I agree with that as well
[08:38] <JoseStefan> try finding a service center that wont charge you if they fail
[08:38] <brendonjt> jsethk:oh ok,  but the bios  don't even pick it up now  i get the error  primary ide channel no 80 conductor cable installed
[08:38] <e-type> AndrukTatum: is there no "mount" option?
[08:38] <AndrukTatum> that would be the best option
[08:38] <sethk> brendonjt, if you happen to have another drive of the identical model you can swap the PC board
[08:39] <AndrukTatum> e-type: there is, it says that the device is not removable and it could not execute pmount
[08:39] <brendonjt> sethk:no i don't buggar it all grr
[08:39] <gary4gar> !paste
[08:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:39] <AndrukTatum> oh, should i mount them through the terminal?
[08:39] <e-type> AndrukTatum: try a sudo mount /dev/hd* ;)
[08:39] <JoseStefan> i started making DVD backups of all my essential stuff like one month ago, plan to do them at least every 3 months
[08:39] <JoseStefan> i never did backups before
[08:39] <e-type> AndrukTatum: * being the right letter+integer
[08:39] <sethk> brendonjt, if it is electronics, then the data can certainly be recovered
[08:40] <brendonjt> sethk:hopefully  but here in new zealand  that kind of thing  is big money
[08:40] <sethk> JoseStefan, well, that's the real answer, back up anything that isn't on RAID storage.  We are just helping someone compensate for not having done that
[08:40] <brendonjt> brb
[08:40] <AndrukTatum> e-type: righto, did that, and it says it cant find the drives in fstab or mtab
[08:40] <AndrukTatum> e-type: so now i get to edit fstab and/or mtab?
[08:40] <mkquist_> last time if recovered a buggered drive it involved the freezer and a ziplock bag
[08:40] <sethk> brendonjt, it's expensive to disassemble  the drive and recover, yes.  but to swap the pc board is not usually expensive
[08:40] <JoseStefan> brendonjt, in my country it's not even an option, i would have to ship it overseas
[08:40] <e-type> AndrukTatum: I wouldn't put them there, useless in a live session. point it to some mountpoint. see man mount ;)
[08:41] <e-type> AndrukTatum: '$ mount -t <type> <dev> <path>'
[08:41] <JoseStefan> sethk, a friend of mine lost his drive, about a month ago, then i realized: It could have happened to me
[08:41] <noclip> hey all! i've got a fairly noobtastic question: how do you *downgrade* a package with aptitude (or apt-get)?
[08:42] <sethk> JoseStefan, I back up religiously, have for 20 years.  You only have to get seriously burned once to learn
[08:42] <keta> why i can't connect (edgy) with network-manager on a wpa psk network? if i re-define my /etc/network/interfaces, wpa-supplicant called via if-up works fine
[08:42] <JoseStefan> noclip, with apt-get, use install option, and add a suffix with the version "=version"
[08:42] <dad> how to connect other server?
[08:43] <JoseStefan> noclip, sudo apt-get install mypackage=12.34
[08:43] <JoseStefan> keta, try #ubuntu+1
[08:43] <e-type> dad: connect with what to which server and to what purpose?
[08:43] <noclip> JoseStefan: ah, so simple. thanks!
[08:43] <AndrukTatum> e-type: type is the fs, dev is /dev/hd* and path is the path where i want to mount it, right?
[08:43] <keta> JoseStefan: thanks
[08:44] <JoseStefan> sethk, never know how much you want/need/love something, until you loose it
[08:44] <e-type> AndrukTatum: yep, type for example ntfs/ext3/vfat , dev for example /dev/hda1, path /path/to/some/mountpoint
[08:44] <AndrukTatum> lose
[08:44] <noclip> (dammit i just lost The Game)
[08:44] <AndrukTatum> e=type: it says my mountpoint doesnt exist
[08:44] <JoseStefan> k
[08:44] <dad> to irc.lv it's server where my friends are siting :)
[08:45] <AndrukTatum> *e-type: it says my mountpoint doesnt exist
[08:45] <sethk> AndrukTatum, the mount point must exist.  it's just a directory, create it with mkdir
[08:45] <e-type> AndrukTatum: so what do you do then? create it!
[08:45] <AndrukTatum> >.<
[08:45] <e-type> I'm actually not sure if the live cd is or is not supposed to do this from nautilus or gnome-mount-manager automagically...
[08:47] <wheelswitch> Madpilot:  I quite like this music player, cheers.
[08:48] <wheelswitch> that said, if there are any other music players out there, that have an itunes like interface, and arnt rhythmbox, let me know.
[08:48] <Madpilot> wheelswitch, no prob - I switched to Muine from RB ages ago, I think it's far more usable for basic album playing
[08:48] <AndrukTatum> e-type: okay, thanks!
[08:48] <AndrukTatum> seth: thanks again man!
[08:49] <e-type> AndrukTatum: np
[08:49] <gary4gar> warbo
[08:49] <e-type> AndrukTatum: be carefull what you change on your alien drives ;)
[08:49] <pip> how to send a program to font in a terminal ?
[08:49] <AndrukTatum> lol
[08:49] <pip> huelp
[08:49] <pip> help
[08:49] <gary4gar> pip just drag it there??
[08:49] <brendonjt> e-type:  from what i gather  the live cd don't mount the hdd's  but some one here could correct me
[08:50] <gary4gar> with mouse
[08:50] <pip> gary4gar, it is running in backguound
[08:50] <Dummey> live cd mounted my external hdd and fat32 partition
[08:50] <e-type> brendonjt: yup, not sure either... I'd consider it only safe not to give too easy access to them if you take into account the average level of linux knowledge here. (no offense to anyone)
[08:50] <JoseStefan> brendonjt, i believe it mounts them but you need sudo to do anything with them
[08:50] <gary4gar> first tell me in detail pip
[08:51] <gary4gar> what are u up to??
[08:51] <pip> gary4gar, how to send a program which is running under background to front in a terminal ?
[08:51] <JoseStefan> pip, try jobs and fg
[08:51] <CaptainMorgan> please convince me to go with Ubuntu on my new desktop dual core build... Ive ubuntu before for about a year and now Im using kubuntu on my laptop.. my installation of fedora is NOT going like I planned.. i wished for a different flavor.. but now having experience ubuntu and knowing it works-out-of-box on alot of things.. i feel it's time to try it
[08:51] <brendonjt> josestefan: true,  tried on a clients of mine  to access his  sata  drives and nope  no access not even under su
[08:51] <pip> gary4gar, commands
[08:52] <gary4gar> pip:is it already running??
[08:52] <pip> yes
[08:52] <JoseStefan> pip, try "jobs" and "fg"
[08:52] <e-type> CaptainMorgan: ubuntu is in general the easiest distro to setup. this also means you get the least choices for yourself.
[08:52] <e-type> CaptainMorgan: judging from what you say, you won't mind losing some freedom ;)
[08:52] <lee_> xubuntu it awsome on older machines, blows win 98 out of the water for performance o the pII 400 i just built out of junk for my daughter
[08:53] <CaptainMorgan> e-type, choices?
[08:53] <pip> JoseStefan, Thank you
[08:53] <CaptainMorgan> I found ubuntu to be very open in freedom my experience..
[08:53] <pip> gary4gar, Thank you
[08:53] <CaptainMorgan> what did I miss?
[08:53] <e-type> CaptainMorgan: like, I want package A over B, I want my config like this or like that, I don't want to rape standard unix security, whatever choices the admin can make
[08:54] <gary4gar> pip:no problems
[08:54] <JoseStefan> pip, np
[08:54] <lee_> anyone here have experaince getting Magic the gathering on-line to work with ubuntu?
[08:54] <e-type> CaptainMorgan: limiting choices is the reason for ubuntu's succes, most users don't have the knowledge to handle choice"
[08:54] <JoseStefan> !games
[08:54] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:54] <JoseStefan> lee_ see if that has anything ^^^
[08:54] <Dummey> !wireless
[08:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:55] <lee_> will do
[08:55] <Dummey> woot
[08:55] <e-type> Dummey: pipe bot output to yourself for reference please ;)
[08:56] <Dummey> lol sorry, i didn't know it would actually work
[08:56] <JoseStefan> /msg ubutu works too
[08:56] <JoseStefan> ubotu*
[08:56] <e-type> Dummey: use a msg, don't know if '>' syntax works witht hem
[08:56] <CaptainMorgan> e-type, im all for choice.. but not even seeing a network after fedora's installation, so I can update the kernel is really disconcerting.. I did everything I could to activate eth0 and it just wont work... and I can't even access my ntfs partition through mounting.. 'unknown fs 'ntfs', my hope is that ubuntu will AT LEAST see the network
[08:56] <CaptainMorgan> when I activate it
[08:56] <lee_> nope not on either site
[08:56] <AndyIsMVP> can som1 help with me with wlan on ubuntu?
[08:56] <gary4gar> @<Dummey> u can pm him
[08:57] <Dummey> will do, thanks for the advice
[08:57] <gary4gar> np
[08:57] <e-type> CaptainMorgan: if you're all for choice you'll have to learn bit ;)
[08:57] <mutk> CaptainMorgan, I just answered your q in #fedora BTW
[08:57] <feet> i there. i just installed kubuntu-desktop. now i want to get rid of GNOME. presumably im supposed to remove ubuntu-desktop, but that just seems to get rid of that virtual package and nothing else? how do i get rid of gnome? thanks!
[08:57] <dcstimm_> anyone know how to make a multisession cd with two isos?
[08:57] <AndyIsMVP> any1 here know anything about wireless in ubuntu?
[08:58] <mirf> should I download the 'alternate cd' if I want to be able to have control over partitions, ie install xubuntu to hda8 rather than let it repartition to it's own liking (which is what happened last time I trid installing ubuntu from a livecd)
[08:58] <Lynoure> !anyone
[08:58] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:58] <couli1> how can i seed whats in deb http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ dapper main aiglx  i mean the real address, i woudl liek to try to get the pacakge manualy the update is screwed i got error header everytime
[08:58] <AlienX> ubotu, tell AndyIsMVP about wireless
[08:58] <couli1> *seed= see
[08:58] <feet> mirf: the live cd have a manual partition editor
[08:59] <couli1>  http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ubuntu/dists/dapper doesnt exists
[08:59] <AndyIsMVP> well the question is: I got my wlan card to work by using the native drivers and then i shut-down and logged on again and it won't work anymore :(
[08:59] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: native being ndiswrapper?
[09:00] <gary4gar> guys i need ur help!
[09:00] <LetterRip> hi all, who should I talk to about the possibility of getting blender included in the main distribution?
[09:00] <gary4gar> my k3b has produced some error when i tried burning my iso which i converted from .bin
[09:01] <mirf> feet, great
[09:01] <AndyIsMVP> e-type: since ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf didn't work i was told to. cd /etc/modprobe.d then sudo vi blacklist and insert blacklist ndiswrapper and finally configure my wlan in network-admin and it worked.
[09:01] <gary4gar> here is the error
[09:01] <gary4gar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22031
[09:01] <gary4gar> some1 pls check this
[09:01] <AndyIsMVP> e-type: I was told that the above technique is using "native drivers"
[09:01] <couli1> can someone tell me the mapping between an entry in apt source-lsit and a real url ?
[09:01] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: in that case you probably need to load your right kernel module
[09:02] <JoseStefan> feet, try #kubuntu they might know
[09:02] <feet> im there now
[09:02] <couli1> Err http://ubuntu.compiz.net dapper/aiglx gnome-session 2.14.3-0ubuntu2 Bad header line
[09:03] <Dummey> how long should activating a wireless interface take?
[09:03] <AndyIsMVP> e-type: what do you mean im new to linux
[09:03] <e-type> Dummey: be more precise about "activating" ;)
[09:04] <JoseStefan> feet, you probably have to remove packages that start with "gnome-" but it may just be some and not all
[09:04] <Dummey> e-type: when i go into network settings and hit activate after configuring
[09:04] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: find out what kernel module you have to load for your card, and check that it's loaded.
[09:04] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: kernel module is a driver if you wish
[09:04] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: pluggable part of the linux kernel
[09:04] <AndyIsMVP> e-type: how do i check?
[09:05] <gary4gar> dummey
[09:05] <e-type> Dummey: that depends on how fast your kernel module is inserted, if it needs external firmware, is it a dhcp interface, ...
[09:05] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: '$ lsmod' shows your loaded kernel modules, google shows you the right module
[09:06] <gary4gar> e-type
[09:06] <Dummey> e-type: yes it is a dhcp interface and it's running off RaLink driver
[09:06] <AndyIsMVP> e-type: if it helps, when i go into network-admin atm i can choose my router or my neighbours router (so i guess that means it knows the card is in there) and the light on the pci-card is flashing when i configure the wlan card
[09:06] <Surfnkid> how can i send a bunch of files via ftp (CLI) in one bunch?
[09:06] <gary4gar> e-type, i need ur help!
[09:06] <Surfnkid> i typed put *.* and it wont do it, itll send one file
[09:07] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: then your kernel module is definetely loaded and your nic works. define your network correctly and it the interface should be up
[09:07] <Surfnkid> !ftp
[09:07] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[09:07] <brendonjt> brb
[09:07] <e-type> gary4gar: I can see that, ask your question and don't ask to ask ;)
[09:07] <gary4gar> my k3b has produced some error when i tried burning my iso which i converted from .bin
[09:07] <JoseStefan> Surfnkid, there is an alternate put, i dont remember it, probably mput
[09:08] <couli1> can you guys acces this ? http://ubuntu.compiz.net/pool/aiglx/g/gnome-session/gnome-session_2.14.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[09:08] <gary4gar>  here is the error
[09:08] <gary4gar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22031
[09:08] <gary4gar> some pls check it
[09:09] <|thunder> how do I start a process 'jobs' says is stopped ?
[09:09] <tehsu> server irc.tsunade.net
[09:09] <tehsu> er
[09:10] <tehsu> sorry
[09:10] <AndyIsMVP> e-type: what do u mean by define my network correctly?
[09:10] <Dummey> e-type: so uh, it's still trying to activate; does this mean something broke?
[09:10] <AndyIsMVP> e-type: when i make any changes it says enabling wlan0 or something and it takes 4eva!
[09:10] <Hocko> What is the best linux distro?
[09:10] <Dummey> Hocko: there is no best =P
[09:10] <mutk> Hocko, What a loaded question !!
[09:10] <Justaway> Hocko, Ubuntu
[09:10] <gary4gar> hacko ubuntu:P
[09:10] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: setup your network settings correctly like wep key and all. this could very well be a problem in your router/ap
[09:11] <Justaway> Hocko, Depends on what you want to do - but for desktop, I would say Ubuntu
[09:11] <JoseStefan> Hocko, MS-DOS version 3.00
[09:11] <AndyIsMVP> e-type: but it worked before with the current settings...
[09:11] <muhammad> lol
[09:11] <e-type> Dummey: this could be something in your router, prolly waiting for a dhcp offer
[09:11] <Hocko> I'm currrently running Windows 3.11 for workgroups.
[09:11] <flasher> how do i set up my (phone) modem?
[09:11] <Justaway> Hocko, Really?
[09:11] <gary4gar> e-type???
[09:11] <Justaway> I would actually keep that - it was speedy
[09:11] <Hocko> No.
[09:11] <muhammad> !dialup
[09:11] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[09:11] <Hocko> lol
[09:11] <flasher> i have it in my computer, but linux says that /dev/modem aint' working
[09:11] <Justaway> oh :(
[09:12] <flasher> muhammad: thanks
[09:12] <Hocko> it was cool tho.
[09:12] <flasher> will loook at that likn
[09:12] <e-type> gary4gar: patience
[09:12] <Hocko> back in the day when computing was fun
[09:12] <gary4gar> ok
[09:12] <muhammad> flasher> yvw :)
[09:12] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> Hi! Im busy setting up Evolution Im on the screen where you specify to recive mail from an exchange server and it wont move forward. What does the OWA URL Field mean?
[09:13] <JoseStefan> fun was playing doom1 over my 2400 baud modem when the internet barely existed
[09:13] <Hocko> 2400Mwahahaha!
[09:13] <Hocko> Evil......
[09:13] <e-type> gary4gar: there was a write error, not sure if anything is wrong with your setup
[09:14] <JoseStefan> and mom asking what was wrong with the phone
[09:14] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: your device is working correctly, you have a network problem
[09:14] <togel> hi
[09:14] <gary4gar> -e-type:btw what can be cause of write error
[09:14] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: if your device wasn't working correctly you wouldn't have seen any networks
[09:14] <JoseStefan> ...of course that meant the end of the match too
[09:14] <|thunder> fun was downloading10 second pron clips from BBS's before anyone ever even heard of trumpet winsock.
[09:14] <e-type> gary4gar: from a bad disk over a bump while writing to a buffer underrun
[09:15] <Hocko> I saw my first pron pix on a bbs
[09:15] <Hocko> I became a man.
[09:15] <JoseStefan> lol
[09:15] <gary4gar> e-type: what can be done to avoid future errors
[09:15] <e-type> gary4gar: it's started writing allright, something went wrong during the process
[09:15] <e-type> gary4gar: no clue, this is prolly a hw issue
[09:15] <AndyIsMVP> e-type: but it was working then i shut-down then l8r i turned-on and it didn't work
[09:15] <e-type> gary4gar: try again
[09:15] <Dummey> e-type: when it's trying to activate it won't let me open anything else such as my terminal; could the activation be tying something up?
[09:16] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> can anyone help?
[09:16] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> Hi! Im busy setting up Evolution Im on the screen where you specify to recive mail from an exchange server and it wont move forward. What does the OWA URL Field mean?
[09:16] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: I can't advise you anything else than double check your settings and start tinkering. obviously something changed on your box or in your router. your device works
[09:16] <thingy> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: OWA = Outlook Web Access
[09:17] <NickGarvey> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: outlook web address
[09:17] <bence> hi
[09:17] <e-type> thingy: that's the server's url
[09:17] <|thunder> somegeek, is this right? does the nohup command prefix make it so processes run even after i log out of X ?
[09:17] <e-type> thingy: sorry
[09:17] <e-type> thingy: was meant for Teh_wrk1n|Dog  ;)
[09:17] <JoseStefan> |thunder, what are you trying to do?
[09:18] <|thunder> JoseStefan, undersetand what nohup does.
[09:18] <JoseStefan> |thunder, "man nohup"
[09:18] <AndyIsMVP> e-type: ok im going to restart and start fiddling. anything u suggest fiddling with first?
[09:19] <Dummey> would finding a ethernet cable solve all this wireless crap or is setting up a normal lan a pain too?
[09:19] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> thingy: It still wont move forward after i entered my e-mail
[09:20] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> thingy: the forward button is still not active
[09:20] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: nope, all wifi settings in general, it can be something really stupid
[09:20] <thingy> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: one sec
[09:20] <e-type> AndyIsMVP: never trust the black art of wifi config, lol
[09:20] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> thingy: I do have to enter example@example.com right?
[09:21] <gansinho> hello... I need some help, If someone could guide me through 2 "small" probles would be great
[09:21] <gansinho> problems*
[09:21] <JoseStefan> !anyone
[09:21] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:21] <gansinho> just to be polite
[09:21] <Toba> hm.
[09:22] <muhammad> lol
[09:22] <thingy> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: I'm just googling for an example on how to configure Evolution to use an Exchange server...for example, look at this...and tell me which point you got as far as to: http://www.answers.vt.edu/ask4help/email/vtkb2262.htm
[09:22] <muhammad> dont ask to ask gan
[09:22] <muhammad> go ahead ;)
[09:22] <e-type> gansinho: sure, there's only so many people polite, try to understand ;)
[09:22] <JoseStefan> we dont mind, you can actually ask first and say hi later
[09:22] <gansinho> =)
[09:23] <e-type> right, time to start studying...
[09:23] <e-type> laterz all ;)
[09:23] <JoseStefan> a thanks at the end is a must, otherwise we feed you to ubotu
[09:24] <gansinho> (sorry I'm brazilian, I'm a bit slow in my english-mode) ok, I have a nvidia Fx5200 detected by my ubuntu... howber when I was using some gDesklets the look ugly, I thought that it could be some video problem... how do I know if my video card is correctly recognized / configured
[09:24] <gansinho> (in "device manager" I can see it ...)
[09:25] <JoseStefan> !tell gansinho about nvidia
[09:25] <Dummey> lol, my wireless has been trying to activate for 30 min now; i can't x it out nor can i start anything else
[09:25] <gansinho> un... ok... I rarely use the english forum...
[09:26] <Dummey> does this mean that my wireless card isn't recieving information or that i'm having an error somewhere else?
[09:26] <JoseStefan> gansinho, try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:27] <gansinho> ok second problem... I've reformated one partiotion here, from NTFS to Vfat (in ubuntu) but now I can't mount... not even via sudo gedit /etc/fstab or sudo mount...
[09:27] <gansinho> JoseStefan: thanks!
[09:27] <gansinho> I'm reading =)
[09:28] <mkquist_> gansinho-in fstab u did change the filetype?
[09:28] <JoseStefan> no problem
[09:28] <gansinho> yes I did
[09:29] <Dummey>  anybody?
[09:29] <gansinho> It's like this ... (may I paste a line here?
[09:29] <mkquist_> i dont mind...
[09:29] <JoseStefan> !pastebin
[09:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:29] <gansinho> mkquist_: like this /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[09:29] <gansinho> ists just one line
[09:29] <JoseStefan> ok
[09:29] <JoseStefan> 1 is ok
[09:29] <gansinho> thanks anyway!
[09:30] <mkquist_> lol
[09:30] <gansinho> what?
[09:30] <geoffTheFish> what is xorg and why is it constantly taking 50% + of my cpu?  sometimes 80/90%
[09:30] <mkquist_> nothing the the pastebin thing
[09:30] <juantelez> hi everyone
[09:30] <gansinho> juantelez: hi
[09:30] <mkquist_> have u restarted?
[09:30] <juantelez> I had this strage problem
[09:30] <gansinho> yup
[09:30] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, xorg is your window manager (aka gui)
[09:31] <gansinho> in nautilus it says that only the root can mount it...
[09:31] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan, something is amiss tho?  that is too much cpu
[09:31] <gansinho> so I go to terminal and "sudo nautilus"
[09:31] <gansinho> but now the error is different
[09:32] <juantelez> I can not acces to "Start screen" or something like that in Sistem - Preferences
[09:32] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, is everything closed when you take the reading? what are you using to monitor it?
[09:32] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: top
[09:32] <juantelez> hi gansinho
[09:32] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: no i have konqueror and xchat open
[09:32] <gansinho> mkquist_:  may I pvt you?
[09:32] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, are you running top in xterm?
[09:33] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: in the terminal, yes
[09:33] <mkquist_> did u try gksudo?
[09:33] <juantelez> anyone has a clue why this is happening?
[09:33] <mkquist_> to change permissions ...
[09:33] <mkquist_> and yes u can pm
[09:34] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, try same scenario, but run top outside of X (ctrl+alt+f1)
[09:34] <mkquist_> gansinho-did you try gksudo?
[09:35] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: is ctrl alt f1 the command that takes you out of gui?  if so how do i get back?  thinked i did this once before and ended up rebooting!
[09:35] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, good question (ctrl+alt+f7)
[09:36] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: ok ta, here goes...
[09:36] <ubuntu> hi every1
[09:36] <gansinho> mkquist_: no how do I do that?
[09:36] <mkquist_> gansinho- alt/f2 then run gksudo nautilus
[09:36] <Chandu> hi
[09:36] <mkquist_> gansinho, had same prob w/mounting and accessing and that fixed it
[09:36] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> thingy
[09:36] <thingy> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: yep
[09:36] <Chandu> May I know how dpkg-reconfigure works
[09:36] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> pvt pls
[09:37] <mkquist_> gansinho-give u root gui to do same things, like permissions
[09:37] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: it drops to 23% when i run it like that
[09:37] <ubuntu> hey geoff :)
[09:37] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, sometimes taking the readings within X adds overhead
[09:38] <anAngel> hi how can i build a kernel 2.6 without /dev support in it? I need to be configured to not automatically mount  /dev (devfs) by default
[09:38] <gansinho> mkquist_: no =( not even with gksudo
[09:38] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> thingy: you there? can you see any msgs i type?
[09:38] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: so that is a more accurate figure?  cos it climbed to 90% before and stuff was running slowly, after i logged out and in it dropped to the current 50%
[09:38] <gansinho> mkquist_: its the same second error that I pasted in PVT to you
[09:38] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, if X still feels slugish you could check stuff like, using a CPU specific kernel, and using propietary video drivers
[09:38] <ubuntu> thingy: hi there
[09:39] <holycow> heh, this is just rude --> http://dilbert.com/
[09:39] <ubuntu> thingy:  can u see Teh_wrk1n|Dog ?
[09:39] <thingy> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: Nope, your msgs arent getting to me
[09:39] <holycow> funny thing is i know people like that
[09:39] <holycow> and the funnier thing is, they really are unqualified for a life of crime
[09:39] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan:  maybe the drivers cos windows leave traces when i move them and i get odd flashes when i click on top menu icons?
[09:39] <Teh_wrk1n|Dog> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[09:39] <Madpilot> Teh_wrk1n|Dog, you need to be registered & id'd to P
[09:39] <mkquist_> didnt receive private... sry
[09:39] <thingy> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: ah!
[09:39] <ubuntu> hey Madpilot
[09:40] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, i would check the kernel 1st, what kernel are you using and what CPU do you have?
[09:40] <holycow> heh, this is just rude --> http://dilbert.com/
[09:40] <thingy> Teh_wrk1n|Dog: in that case type in /join #thingy
[09:40] <mkquist_> gansinho-didnt rec pvt
[09:40] <Madpilot> hi ubuntu - you really should pick a unique nickname, you know...
[09:40] <mkquist_> gansinho-sry
[09:40] <gansinho> I'll try that again
[09:40] <gansinho> ok
[09:40] <D0wn> Has anyone used the program "MoBlock"?
[09:40] <ubuntu> Madpilot: it is unique :)
[09:40] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan:  is there a command that tells the kernal version?  i basically upgraded from breezy to dapper last month
[09:40] <mkquist_> not hardly
[09:40] <mkquist_> lol
[09:41] <ubuntu> lol
[09:41] <anAngel> hi Anybody to know how can i build a kernel 2.6 without /dev support in it? I need to be configured to not automatically mount  /dev (devfs) by default
[09:41] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, "uname -a"
[09:42] <gansinho> mkquist_: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,  missing codepage or other error"
[09:42] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: 2.6.15-26-386
[09:42] <ubuntu> aaw dont ya guys like my name :(
[09:42] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, what CPU do you have?
[09:42] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan:  cant remember, let me take a look...
[09:43] <Blacklight> anyone know the off-topic channel?
[09:43] <ubuntu> gansinho:  trying to mount something?
[09:43] <gansinho> yep
[09:43] <ubuntu> mounting what?
[09:43] <holycow> Blacklight, yes, #windows
[09:43] <holycow> *cough*
[09:44] <JoseStefan> !offtopic
[09:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:44] <Blacklight> lolol
[09:44] <holycow> *whistle*
[09:44] <_azrael> Blacklight: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:44] <Blacklight> thanks guys
[09:44] <holycow> no prob
[09:44] <gansinho> a partiotion recently reformated from NTFS to Vfat
[09:44] <D0wn> Has anyone used MoBlock before?
[09:44] <gansinho> in ntfs I could mount it easly... but now that it's in Vfat I can't
[09:44] <ubuntu> gansinho:  type mount -t vfat device    mount-point
[09:45] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: hmmm, i cant see from device manager, it just says unknown - do i need to boot up my windoze partition to find out?
[09:45] <dtang> hello
[09:45] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, is it a branded PC, you might be able to find out thru the manufacturer website
[09:45] <Softlow> can someone help me with partitioning?
[09:46] <PiTT> what is the best guide to installing xgl/compiz on ubuntu for nvidia cards?
[09:46] <JoseStefan> !tell gansinho about windowsdrives
[09:46] <Gooblakan> hello
[09:46] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan:  yes, tis sony laptop, i will take a look...
[09:46] <mkquist_> gansinho: sry, was trying to get the pm sorted out
[09:46] <PiTT> cant find a decent one...all of the ones ive seen are incomplete
[09:46] <ubuntu> geoffTheFish: trying to find cpy into?
[09:46] <gansinho> mkquist_: i'm not registred... I can't send pm..
[09:46] <ubuntu> cpu*
[09:46] <gansinho> my fould
[09:46] <gansinho> my foult
[09:47] <ubuntu> info*
[09:47] <mkquist_> gansinho:-i should be able to get anyway
[09:47] <Softlow> I have a Windows partition and a Ubuntu partition and I want to shrink the Windows Partition and expand the Ubuntu partition. How would I do that?
[09:47] <Gooblakan> Can anyone help me get a parallel port scanner working?
[09:47] <ubuntu> mkquist_:  only registered member can get PM's right?
[09:47] <gansinho> ubuntu : now I reboot?
[09:47] <Gooblakan> can anyone see me?
[09:48] <mkquist_> ubuntu-it supposed to depend how u set it if youll accept or not
[09:48] <gansinho> Gooblakan: yup
[09:48] <ubuntu> gansinho: no reboot required
[09:48] <ubuntu> this is linux
[09:48] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, try this command: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:48] <Gooblakan> thanks gan
[09:48] <ubuntu> gansinho: just chk the mount point u should be able to access win shares
[09:48] <gansinho> ubuntu but now the partition isn' there anymore?
[09:48] <gansinho> the partition is empty
[09:49] <ubuntu> can u see it in the link?
[09:49] <chris449> hi, i'm in a command prompt only situation, how do i start the network?
[09:49] <ubuntu> type fdisk -l
[09:49] <gansinho> I want to have a partition to swap things over the OS's
[09:49] <mkquist_> gansinho:-and paste the results
[09:49] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: ah cool, it is a celeron 2.8Ghz
[09:49] <mkquist_> in the pastebin
[09:49] <gansinho> my mom can't use anything but windows
[09:49] <ubuntu> k
[09:49] <gansinho> no result... =(
[09:49] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, install this package: linux-686
[09:49] <mkquist_> fdisk -l?
[09:50] <mkquist_> no result
[09:50] <mkquist_> sudo
[09:50] <mkquist_> gansinho: sudo
[09:50] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: ok
[09:50] <mkquist_> gansinho: or sudo -s for the duration
[09:50] <JoseStefan> !binarydriver > geoffTheFish
[09:50] <gansinho> /dev/hdb1               1        2612    20980858+   b  W95 FAT32
[09:51] <ubuntu> ok so hdb1 is there as fat32
[09:51] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, after you install the new kernel, reboot into it (it will show on the boot menu)
[09:51] <gansinho> so ... isn't that right? both windows and linux can write/read easly FAT 32 can't they?
[09:51] <ubuntu> yes they can
[09:52] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan:  what does that package do then (i ask as i trustingly install it anykway!!)
[09:52] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: so is a different kernal?
[09:52] <mkquist_> geoffTheFish..lol
[09:52] <mkquist_> "as i trustingly install it anyway"
[09:52] <gansinho> the only problem is that  I can't mount it... =// the other ntfs I did
[09:52] <ubuntu> gansinho:  try this
[09:53] <mkquist_> gansinho: when u mount -a what does it say?
[09:53] <ubuntu> gansinho:  type sudo mkdir /media/hdb1
[09:53] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, the linux-686 is a dummy package that depends on the linux-image and modules packages for 686 processors
[09:53] <shaigirl67> hi all
[09:53] <Gooblakan> anyone know how to detect scanners on the parallel port?
[09:53] <gansinho> syas that the file exists
[09:53] <gansinho> says
[09:53] <ubuntu> gansinho:  ok good
[09:53] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, 686 processors is basicly everything intel has releaseased since the pentium 2
[09:53] <tepsipakki> hi, how do I change kde _not_ to show the desktop when the screen is locked?
[09:53] <ubuntu> type sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb
[09:54] <gansinho> already mounted according to mtab
[09:54] <ubuntu> then u shold be able to access it
[09:54] <mkquist_> gansinho:-clear it out of fstab
[09:54] <tomthorgal> hello :)
[09:54] <mkquist_> then umount it
[09:54] <ubuntu> type sudo ls -l /media/hdb1
[09:54] <gansinho> it also says that it's busy
[09:54] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, after you install it, you will reboot, and you'll have a new option on the boot menu with the new kernel, the old kernel will still be there too
[09:55] <mkquist_> then try his last mount command
[09:55] <gansinho> maybe busy
[09:55] <mkquist_> gansinho:-ull have to umount it first then
[09:55] <Gooblakan> hello tom
[09:55] <mrjoe> ciao a tuttti
[09:55] <gansinho> ok... 1-delete from fstab 2-unmount 3-mount 4- write in fstab ?
[09:55] <ubuntu> mkquist_: i did try register my name
[09:55] <ubuntu> how do i make sure it registered?
[09:56] <mkquist_> ubuntu, ya im having probs w/that too
[09:56] <tomthorgal> Could someone tell me how I can exit x11 to just get back to the prompt? I need to install nvidia drivers and need to exit my xwindow for it.
[09:56] <ubuntu> oh ok
[09:56] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: ok, cool i will give it a go.  thanks for the advice
[09:56] <Lobster> what name do you want to register?
[09:56] <mrjoe> i have a problem with inetd and swat....
[09:56] <gansinho> mkquist_: it's here!!!
[09:56] <mkquist_> lol where
[09:56] <ubuntu> gansinho: make backups before modifying any file
[09:56] <gansinho> I did not have to mount
[09:56] <gansinho> lol
[09:56] <mrjoe> someone can halp me?
[09:56] <gansinho> don't know
[09:56] <mkquist_> gansinho: what did u change?
[09:56] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, after you have it running, you could give "top" a try, but i would install the video drivers as well
[09:56] <ubuntu> gansinho:  congrats ;)
[09:57] <gansinho>  sudo fdisk -l
[09:57] <gansinho> i think that this is the magic command
[09:57] <JoseStefan> tomthorgal, you should need to exit x11 to install video drivers
[09:57] <JoseStefan> tomthorgal, shouldn't*
[09:57] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: ok, i will need windoze to tell me the video card tho?
[09:57] <mkquist_> gansinho: congrats..
[09:57] <mrjoe> ok
[09:58] <gansinho> (I'm newb, totally... so the terminal is a great temple of magic... in which things happen when I type wright things)
[09:58] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, or receipt / manufacturer website
[09:58] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, whatever is easier for you
[09:58] <mkquist_> gansinho: was pretty happy to get mine mounted ...did you mount in media?
[09:58] <Gooblakan> anyone know anything about scanners and the parallel port?
[09:58] <mkquist_> gansinho: or mnt?
[09:58] <ubuntu> gansinho:  learn to use man
[09:58] <tomthorgal> After sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run the prompt tells me I need to exit x11.
[09:58] <ubuntu> man mount
[09:58] <ubuntu> man command-name
[09:58] <gansinho> I'm with ubuntu for 2 weeks now
[09:59] <JoseStefan> tomthorgal, did you consider the drivers in the ubuntu repositories? those are much easier to install.
[09:59] <Gooblakan> I would like to talk to a linux guru please......    :(
[09:59] <gansinho> mkquist_:  yes, it's mounted in /media
[09:59] <mkquist_> gansinho: then its on ur desktop
[09:59] <mkquist_> too?
[09:59] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: its ATI Radeon(TM)
[09:59] <geoffTheFish> IGP 345M
[10:00] <gansinho> nop.. =/
[10:00] <yum99> hi all, we use ubuntu clients at our school. the server is using openldap. the kids cannot use sound and usb stick because they arent in the groups audio and plugdev. can I tell the clients with the ldap server that all 1000 users are in the group audio and plugdev?
[10:00] <ubuntu> gansinho: r u using kde?
[10:00] <mkquist_> gansinho: hmm
[10:00] <ubuntu> or gnome?
[10:00] <gansinho> nope...
[10:00] <gansinho> I can enter it
[10:00] <gansinho> gnome
[10:00] <ubuntu> then it should be on desktop like mkquist_ said
[10:00] <JoseStefan> tomthorgal, i cant msg you back, not registered :(
[10:00] <gansinho> Via nautilus > computer > hdb1
[10:01] <JoseStefan> !nvidia > tomthorgal
[10:01] <gansinho> but it's great not to be in desktop
[10:01] <tomthorgal> no problem :)
[10:01] <bejoy> Gooblakan, How much you are willing to pay to talk to GURU?
[10:01] <mkquist_> gansinho: if its mounted in media, can u access it? like write to it?
[10:01] <gansinho> I wish I could remove the others ....  (they make me remember windows)
[10:01] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, i have never installed the ati drivers :(
[10:01] <kOpter> Yello :)
[10:02] <kOpter> I've got a strange problem: on cold boot, my hardware sometimes doesn't get recognized... So I have no mouse, network or anything...
[10:02] <kOpter> Rebooting solves this 9/10 times...
[10:02] <gansinho> yes... I have some problems...
[10:02] <mkquist_> gansinho: remove what others? more on desktop?
[10:02] <gansinho> I can't write in it... =(
[10:02] <mkquist_> gansinho: permissions again?
[10:02] <ubuntu> gansinho: lol i think u forgot to cange fstab file
[10:02] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, it is possible you might have to keep the same drivers you are using now, as the propietary ones are usually for standalone add-in cards
[10:02] <gansinho> remove the other  partitions that it mount automatically in the boot
[10:02] <ubuntu> change*
[10:02] <gansinho> just the "shortcuts"
[10:03] <gansinho> from desktop
[10:03] <ubuntu> gansinho: paste ur fstab file on pastebin.com
[10:03] <mkquist_> gansinho: trash those if u want then
[10:03] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, the kernel image should make a difference, lets hope its big enough
[10:03] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan:  apt is telling me there is a package which is a video driver for ATI graphics accelerators, is that what i need?
[10:03] <mkquist_> !pastebin
[10:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:04] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish, the package might not include your ATI model
[10:04] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: will it hurt to install it?
[10:04] <ubuntu> make sure fstab setting for hdb1 has changed to vfat and it is not in ro mode
[10:04] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish: yes, it might hurt
[10:04] <Gooblakan> can anyone help me?
[10:05] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish: stick with the 686 kernel for now, lets hope the improvment is big enough
[10:05] <ubuntu> Gooblakan: ask the question, if some1 can they will help
[10:05] <gansinho> it's in pastebin guys
[10:06] <Gooblakan> how do I detect a parallel port scanner?  I believe it is supported by XSane
[10:06] <gansinho> name = gansinho
[10:06] <tepsipakki> yum99: use pam_group
[10:06] <geoffTheFish> JoseStefan: ok it has installed so i will reboot, back on the channel later, thanks for the advice
[10:07] <JoseStefan> geoffTheFish: ok
[10:07] <HFall> hello. I hope this is the right place for my question...
[10:07] <tepsipakki> yum99: in /etc/pam.d/gdm add "auth    optional        pam_group.so"
[10:07] <HFall> I have problem with i810 X module
[10:07] <gansinho> mkquist_ , and ubuntu I'ts already in pastebin.com
[10:08] <mkquist_> gansinho: k
[10:08] <tepsipakki> yum99: and in /etc/security/group.conf something like "gdm;*;*;Al0000-2400;floppy,audio,cdrom,plugdev"
[10:08] <tepsipakki> (that's what we use)
[10:08] <HFall> when I try to use ubuntu on my TV in 1360x768 it not works :(
[10:08] <tepsipakki> now can someone tell me which component in KDE is responsible for locking the screen??
[10:09] <brendonjt> hi ya all  back
[10:09] <ubuntu> gansinho: did u not get a link?
[10:10] <HFall> I tried tune it with 915resolution but there is no effect
[10:10] <gansinho> pastebin.com/779532
[10:11] <HFall> can you tell me idea where I make mistake?
[10:12] <Churri> Quien me puede contestar pues estoy solo
[10:13] <Gooblakan> www.google.com
[10:13] <gansinho> Churri: deves a procurar un canal de mirc para espanholes
[10:13] <livingdaylight> there is a red dot on my desktop!
[10:13] <gansinho> esto es en ingles
[10:13] <kOpter> I've got a strange problem: on cold boot, my hardware sometimes doesn't get recognized... So I have no mouse, network or anything, but I do have harddrives and video
[10:13] <Madpilot> !es
[10:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:13] <ubuntu> gansinho: ok 1 more ntfs is there
[10:14] <livingdaylight> si no hablamos espanol aqui
[10:14] <livingdaylight> solo un poco
[10:14] <Gooblakan> no habla engles?
[10:14] <ubuntu> gansinho: fist unmount hdb1
[10:15] <Gooblakan> sorry
[10:15] <mkquist_> ubuntu how to see the pastebin please?
[10:15] <gansinho> sorry ubuntu... I don't know the codes
[10:15] <mkquist_> gansinho umount hdb1
[10:15] <ubuntu> mkquist_:  in browser address bar type pastebin.com/779532
[10:15] <gansinho> mkquist_: http://pastebin/779532
[10:15] <redondo81_> Hi boys, can you tell me what is the command to erase a file/folder?Thanks
[10:15] <mkquist_> ubuntu-still waiting...hmm
[10:15] <Gooblakan> rmdir
[10:15] <gansinho> sudo right?
[10:15] <ubuntu> yes suod
[10:16] <gansinho> sudo umount hdb1
[10:16] <ubuntu> sudo*
[10:16] <ubuntu> dang it
[10:16] <mkquist_> got it
[10:16] <Gooblakan> redondo: rmdir -9
[10:16] <redondo81_> thanks
[10:16] <gansinho> sudo umount /media/hdb1
[10:16] <Gooblakan> well rmdir anyway
[10:16] <livingdaylight> Gooblakan: de donde eres, muchacho
[10:16] <gansinho> or /dev/hdb1?
[10:16] <mkquist_> gansinho - if u want sudo -s will give u sudo for the terminal session so u dont have to keep typing sudo
[10:16] <brendonjt> ubuntu: depends if the owner  of the directory  is the user or root
[10:16] <livingdaylight> Companero Gooblakan, de donde eres?
[10:17] <ubuntu> gansinho: /media/hdb1
[10:17] <gansinho> mkquist_: YEPE!!!! thanks!
[10:17] <gansinho> ubuntu: umount: /media/hdb1: not mounted
[10:18] <ubuntu> u just unmounted it :O
[10:18] <ubuntu> using sudo?
[10:18] <gansinho> so I mount
[10:18] <gansinho> now?
[10:18] <ubuntu> not now
[10:18] <gansinho> using this :  mount -a /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ?
[10:18] <livingdaylight> Gooblakan: hablo con tigo!
[10:18] <ubuntu> gedit /etc/fstab
[10:19] <gansinho> ubuntu: ok... in fstab i delete hdb1 line?
[10:19] <AndyIsMVP> is my wireless card ment to show up as eth2? isn't it wlan???
[10:19] <ubuntu> first make a backup of that file :D
[10:20] <gansinho> done!
[10:20] <dangson> when i try to uninstall mozilla thunderbird, synaptic wants to remove xubuntu-desktop too. how can i just remove the former?
[10:20] <ubuntu> then where it shows /dev/hdb1 line
[10:20] <AndyIsMVP> is my wireless card ment to show up as eth2? isn't it wlan???
[10:20] <gansinho> yes...??
[10:21] <AndyIsMVP> how can i change it to wlan0?
[10:21] <ubuntu> there next to defaults option just keep default
[10:21] <ubuntu> remove umask thingy
[10:21] <ubuntu> and nls thingy
[10:21] <gansinho> umask=007
[10:21] <cynical> AndyIsMVP: sudo ifconfig eth2 down , sudo ifconfig wlan0 up should work
[10:21] <ubuntu> yes
[10:22] <ubuntu> remove it
[10:22] <gansinho> nls=utf8,
[10:22] <ubuntu> remove it
[10:22] <gansinho> ok... removed
[10:22] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: TY :)
[10:22] <ubuntu> just keep like defaults  0  0
[10:22] <Samuli^> dangson, you shouldn't.
[10:22] <cynical> AndyIsMVP: it worked? awesome
[10:22] <brendonjt> gansinho: i think that it is for  the desktop settings for thunderbird
[10:22] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: i dunno i g2 reboot
[10:23] <gansinho> brendonjt: what?
[10:23] <Samuli^> dangson, xubuntu-desktop it's just a list of depencies, so you can easily install everything that should be on xfe-desktop.
[10:23] <ubuntu> gansinho: close file and save change
[10:23] <ubuntu> now type mount -a
[10:23] <gansinho> save and close... ok
[10:23] <brendonjt> gansinho: foe your question  about removing thunderbird
[10:23] <ubuntu> see if u can write now
[10:23] <gansinho> no it's not thunderbird
[10:24] <Gooblakan> i'm having a problem detecting a parallel port scanner
[10:24] <gansinho> mount -a /dev/hdb1 ?
[10:24] <mkquist_> gansinho - just mount -a
[10:24] <gansinho> or just mount -a
[10:24] <gansinho> ok
[10:24] <ubuntu> mount -a
[10:24] <mkquist_> gansinho - any errors?
[10:24] <dangson> Samuli^, so I can just proceed with removing thunderbird?
[10:24] <ubuntu> now try writing
[10:24] <gansinho> not permissions
[10:24] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: ok reboot
[10:24] <Samuli^> dangson, yes.
[10:24] <mkquist_> gansinho - ok try this
[10:24] <Gooblakan> does anyone know anything about parallel port devices?
[10:25] <dangson> Samuli^, cool. thanks
[10:25] <ubuntu> not perm. :-?
[10:25] <gansinho> mkquist_: and when I enter nautilus as root the hdb1 dows not appear at all....
[10:26] <mkquist_>  gansinho- have u left nautilus open?
[10:26] <gansinho> nop
[10:26] <ubuntu> eh ?
[10:26] <mkquist_> gansinho- not during all this huh?
[10:26] <gansinho> just oppeened now to see if as root I could write
[10:26] <gansinho> no
[10:27] <mkquist_> gansinho-but u can cd there in terminal?
[10:27] <Gooblakan> is there a method of auto detecting parallel port devices?
[10:28] <gansinho> yes
[10:28] <mkquist_> gansinho- can u mkdir there?
[10:28] <gansinho> mkdir what?
[10:29] <mkquist_> gansinho-anything to see if u can write there
[10:29] <mkquist_> gansinho-doesnt matter what, u can delete it
[10:29] <gansinho> i dunno what mkdir does !!
[10:29] <gansinho> sorry
[10:29] <mkquist_> gansinho-try mkdir test
[10:29] <thingy> Gooblakan: Whats the context of your query? Do wish to program this autodetection or are you trying to get something auto detected?
[10:29] <gansinho> I'm really new to this
[10:29] <JoseStefan> make directory
[10:30] <ubuntu> mkdir is used to make new folder
[10:30] <mkquist_> gansinho- in terminal..it makes a directory, mkdir...
[10:30] <gansinho> thanks
[10:30] <gansinho> it created
[10:30] <vik> I assume it isn't legal to assign the same IP to two different NICs in the one computer?
[10:30] <gansinho> I can enter
[10:30] <ubuntu> kool'
[10:30] <ubuntu> it worked  yay
[10:30] <mkquist_> gansinho-so its mounted then
[10:30] <ubuntu> :)
[10:30] <gansinho> root@XPC:/media/hdb1/test#
[10:30] <Thunderpants> aside from xnest, what package do you need to get a login in a new window?
[10:30] <mkquist_> gansinho-and u can write as root, so how are u opening nautilus as root?
[10:31] <gansinho> I'll dothat
[10:31] <ubuntu> type sudo nautilus
[10:31] <gansinho> in "root nautilus"
[10:31] <mkquist_> gansinho-try alt/f2 and run gksudo nautilus
[10:31] <gansinho> there is no icon to that partition
[10:32] <gansinho> just to the others
[10:32] <gansinho> mybe I need to reboot?
[10:32] <ubuntu> that will be fixed,dont worry
[10:32] <mkquist_> gansinho-in media?
[10:32] <ubuntu> ;)
[10:32] <mkquist_> gansinho-id try a reboot
[10:32] <gansinho> nope... in ... "normal"
[10:32] <gansinho> sorry
[10:32] <gansinho> "computer"
[10:32] <gansinho> button...
[10:32] <mkquist_> gansinho-lol
[10:32] <ubuntu> gansinho:  try this
[10:32] <gansinho> I feel so dumb
[10:32] <ubuntu> once again open fstab
[10:32] <ubuntu> sorry
[10:32] <ubuntu> :D
[10:32] <vik> is it possible to map the one name into two different IPs in /etc/hosts ?
[10:32] <mkquist_> gansinho-dont, it can be frustrating, learning over
[10:33] <gansinho> its her
[10:33] <gansinho> I found
[10:33] <gansinho> alone
[10:33] <gansinho> ihaa
[10:33] <mkquist_> gansinho-?? its there now?
[10:33] <gansinho> in the folder
[10:33] <gansinho> media
[10:33] <gansinho> there is a folder
[10:33] <gansinho> hdb 1
[10:33] <mkquist_> gansinho-where it should be
[10:33] <ubuntu> lol
[10:33] <gansinho> insede there is the folder test
[10:33] <mkquist_> gansinho-can u open it?
[10:33] <gansinho> that we created
[10:33] <mkquist_> gansinho-can u write there, like make folder?
[10:33] <gansinho> and there is no damn I forgot the word in english
[10:34] <gansinho> I"ll try
[10:34] <gansinho> yes I can
[10:34] <ubuntu> kool
[10:34] <ubuntu> awesome
[10:34] <ubuntu> ;)
[10:34] <gansinho> there is no lock icon in the folder!
[10:34] <mkquist_> gansinho-ok try opeing browser in ur user mode
[10:34] <Samuli^> so now you just have to make it so, that normal user can write to it :)
[10:34] <gansinho> ok
[10:35] <mkquist_> gansinho-right click on hd1 and check permissions
[10:35] <Gooblakan> is there any way to detect devices connected to the parallel port?
[10:35] <vik> Has anyone had any success in getting gnome samba browsing etc working?
[10:35] <mkquist_> gansinho-in nautilus
[10:35] <gansinho> in user nautilus
[10:35] <gansinho> or root nautilus?
[10:35] <Samuli^> gansinho, what file format is it?
[10:35] <mkquist_> gansinho-root, sry
[10:35] <gansinho> Vfat
[10:35] <Thunderpants> does anybody know, aside from xnest, what package do you need to get a login in a new window?
[10:35] <mkquist_> gansinho-there u can set permissions
[10:35] <Gooblakan> or even a way to detect if my parallel port is supported?
[10:36] <gansinho> i thought so
[10:36] <gansinho> =)
[10:36] <gansinho> I'm getting smarter
[10:36] <mkquist_> gansinho-check the owner?
[10:36] <tarver> hows everyone
[10:36] <Gooblakan> frustrated
[10:36] <mkquist_> gansinho-it'll come, just keep battin away
[10:36] <Samuli^> gansinho, ok. I don't think fat supports permissions like that.
[10:36] <CarinArr> er
[10:36] <CarinArr> if it's fat, you can't use permissions
[10:36] <mkquist_> gansinho-uh maybe not, didnt think about that...
[10:36] <mkquist_> gansinho-oops
[10:36] <CarinArr> what Samuli^ said;)
[10:37] <gansinho> mkquist_: the "hd-like-icons" dows not appear in root nautilus
[10:37] <gansinho> not for  hdb1
[10:37] <Gooblakan> isn't fat 32 known for it's instability?
[10:37] <gansinho> lol
[10:37] <Samuli^> gansinho, you have to define permissions in the fstab.
[10:37] <gansinho> how?
[10:37] <ubuntu> fat= fixing all time :)
[10:37] <mkquist_> Samuli^-cant u do the same in root-nautilus?
[10:38] <gansinho> Samuli^: gid=46
[10:38] <Samuli^> mkquist_, not with a fat, because fat doesn't support normal unix-permissions.
[10:38] <gansinho> Samuli^: this should alow me to acess it doesent it?
[10:38] <gansinho> user in group 46 sth like that...
[10:38] <mkquist_> Samuli^-i c, learning all the time
[10:39] <ubuntu> lol
[10:39] <Gooblakan> ubuntu: how would I detect a device on the parallel port
[10:39] <ubuntu> Gooblakan:  sorry no idea
[10:39] <gansinho> (my mom will chop my head off... it's 5 am here
[10:39] <vik> Gooblakan: what device?
[10:40] <gansinho> he's almost waking to work
[10:40] <Gooblakan> a scanner
[10:40] <chris449> hi, does anyone know how to increase my refresh rate i'm using kde and xgl on nvidia graphics card?
[10:40] <gansinho> Samuli^: in fstab what should I do to give permissions
[10:40] <gansinho> ?
[10:40] <Gooblakan> vik: frankly, i'm not even sure if my kernel supports it....
[10:41] <ubuntu> chris449: where screen resoltuion option is there
[10:41] <ubuntu> i think it is system>>prefrence>>resolution
[10:41] <Samuli^> gansinho, if you want to give everyone all rights umask=0000
[10:41] <chris449> ubuntu: aah thanks, i'm used to windows
[10:41] <Samuli^> -0
[10:41] <Gooblakan> vik: you there man?
[10:42] <ubuntu> yw
[10:42] <vik> Gooblakan: patience. Some of us multitask. type lsmod and see if parport and lp modules are there.
[10:42] <gansinho> Samuli^:  thanks
[10:42] <Samuli^> gansinho, umask works just like chmod, only the other way around so you don't give permissions, you take them away with umask.
[10:42] <gansinho> and nls
[10:42] <gansinho> do I need to have any?
[10:43] <vik> anyone had any success with nautilus mounting ssh/sftp ?
[10:43] <ubuntu> konqueror did
[10:43] <dbe> vik, mouting ssh via nautilus?
[10:43] <ubuntu> did not chk nautils vik
[10:44] <Gooblakan> vik: sorry man, and thanks.
[10:44] <gansinho> Samuli^:  do I need to have any nls ?
[10:44] <vik> ubuntu: huh?
[10:44] <Gooblakan> vik:  parport_pc             31812  1
[10:44] <vik> dbe: places -> connect to server -> service type -> ssh
[10:45] <Samuli^> gansinho, what's nls?
[10:45] <dbe> vik, Hehe.
[10:45] <gansinho> don't know... I though you would
[10:45] <gansinho> it's in fstab
[10:45] <gansinho> ok, neverming... I really need to sleep my mom will kill me and my tux..
[10:45] <vik> dbe: I assume it uses sftp? though it doesn't seem to work
[10:45] <gansinho> neverming
[10:46] <vik> Gooblakan: what device are you trying to connect?
[10:46] <Samuli^> gansinho, there's lots on information available about fstab on the google, try it tomorrow :)
[10:46] <ubuntu> lol
[10:46] <ubuntu> !fstab
[10:46] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[10:46] <gansinho> Samuli^: thanks a lot! ubuntu: thanks a lot mkquist_: thanks a lot !!! really guys you were super gentle ... I can't express myself in a good way in english
[10:46] <Gooblakan> vik: a scanner
[10:47] <ubuntu> gansinho: np , good luck
[10:47] <Gooblakan> vik: an artec scanner that is supposed to be supported by Xsane
[10:47] <IcareZ> hi there
[10:47] <vik> Gooblakan: Hmm... dunno really.
[10:47] <gansinho> I come back some day... good sth for you guys.. don't know what time it is over there...
[10:47] <IcareZ> i have a serious problem with apt-get
[10:47] <IcareZ> it cant download any sources !
[10:48] <vik> Gooblakan: I don't think it will autodetect magically like USB
[10:48] <eetfunk> how do i associate .rb files to my ruby interpreter on the command line?  i'm sick of typing ruby before every .rb file i want to execute!
[10:48] <nbjayme> anybody know of a program that encodes avi raw (lossless) format from (mpg/ogg)?
[10:48] <vik> Gooblakan: you could always try a parallel printer to make sure the ports working (though it's unlikely that it isn't)
[10:48] <nocti> hello, how do i upgrade all that needs upgrading? apt-get ? thanks
[10:48] <Awesome-o2000> nbjayme, mencoder?
[10:48] <Gooblakan> vik: any idea where to search for some help? perhaps a clever search string for google?
[10:49] <dbe> nocti, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:49] <IcareZ> nocti: you must edit the sources.list
[10:49] <ubuntu> nocti: yep
[10:49] <IcareZ> then make a apt-get update
[10:49] <vik> Gooblakan: and make sure your parport is set to ECP mode - you gotta do this in the BIOS
[10:49] <nbjayme> Awesome-o2000, i'll check it. thanks for the speedy reply. :)
[10:49] <nocti> eetfunk, #!/usr/bin/ruby on the first line of the script
[10:49] <Awesome-o2000> np
[10:49] <eetfunk> thanks!
[10:49] <nocti> dbe thanks
[10:49] <IcareZ> nocti: to edit the sources.list you must type in a terminal : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:49] <Awesome-o2000> gedit?!?!?
[10:49] <Awesome-o2000> NANO
[10:49] <Gooblakan> vik: hmm.... I'll give that a shot, thanks , be back shortly perhaps...
[10:50] <nocti> IcareZ, im okay with the repositories, i just forgot the command, thanks anyway
[10:50] <dbe> nocti, Make sure you dont have non-free repositories in source.list, it's evil software.
[10:50] <IcareZ> to have a good liste, go on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:50] <ubuntu> emacs :)
[10:50] <nocti> dbe, sometimes evil is what i want hehe
[10:50] <brendonjt> Awesome-o2000: gedit is a txt  editor
[10:50] <ubuntu> nocti: apt-get install evil haha
[10:50] <Awesome-o2000> I know what it is
[10:50] <IcareZ> lol
[10:50] <IcareZ> ok
[10:50] <IcareZ> I have some problem with apt-get
[10:50] <nocti> thanks guys
[10:51] <brendonjt> Awesome-o2000: opps ok  cos u  went ????
[10:51] <dbe> nocti, That gives power to Corporations and prohit our community to work with it.
[10:51] <eetfunk> nocti: it doesnt work.  says command not found
[10:51] <IcareZ> it cant download anything
[10:51] <mkquist_> gansinho-it should be working now yes?
[10:51] <Awesome-o2000> brendonjt,  here, smoke this, itll make you feel better :D
[10:51] <IcareZ> it cant download list of packages
[10:51] <IcareZ> when i do a update
[10:51] <ubuntu> IcareZ:  any error message?
[10:51] <IcareZ> but i cant view these list with firefox
[10:51] <brendonjt> Awesome-o2000: lol  was just trying to help
[10:51] <mkquist_> oops, nm
[10:51] <dbe> nocti, The free software movement is imporant for all of us.
[10:52] <Awesome-o2000> brendonjt, its all good, im just trying to share the love :)
[10:52] <IcareZ> ubuntu: it show : Ign http://archive.ubuntu.......
[10:52] <mkquist_> ubuntu-did he get the fat32 worked out?
[10:52] <IcareZ> then
[10:52] <ubuntu> mkquist_: yep
[10:52] <brendonjt> Awesome-o2000: cool, just had a streefull day with a clown on here today
[10:52] <IcareZ> ubuntu: Err http://......, cant connect
[10:52] <mkquist_> good deal
[10:52] <vik> has anyone had any success using Place->Connect to Server in ubuntu?
[10:53] <nocti> eetfunk, chmod +x script.rb
[10:53] <IcareZ> then unable to download the file ....
[10:53] <Awesome-o2000> :( brendonjt I dont understand people trolling linux chat channels - the only times Ive ever done anything ban-worthy was in response to psychopathic ops in #fedora
[10:53] <IcareZ> but i can download the same file with firefox
[10:53] <ubuntu> vik:  i had once
[10:53] <ubuntu> i connected to ftp server
[10:53] <ubuntu> icon came on my desktop after that
[10:54] <vik> ubuntu: I've never had any success with samba or sftp.
[10:54] <fallingdutch> is there a way to extract the master-key of a luks encrypted partition?
[10:54] <vik> so much for 'just works'
[10:54] <nocti> eetfunk, and when you execute the script, do a "./script.rb" instead of "script.rb" because most probably the script is not in your path
[10:54] <IcareZ> help :p
[10:54] <ubuntu> vik: i did not chk samba, but ftp yes
[10:54] <eetfunk> nocti:  oh!  thats why
[10:54] <brendonjt> Awesome-o2000: lol  there was this guy  asking for help today and wasn't giving the whole story  took over an hour to get what he was wanting i gave up
[10:54] <vik> ubuntu: need sftp
[10:54] <ubuntu> vik:  what error u get?
[10:54] <Awesome-o2000> brendonjt, those people support vista development lol
[10:54] <IcareZ> How to disable ipv6 ???
[10:55] <fallingdutch> btw: morning all
[10:55] <ubuntu> IcareZ: any firewalls?
[10:55] <brendonjt> Awesome-o2000: lol
[10:56] <Awesome-o2000> brendonjt, the worst insult i could think of at the moment :D
[10:56] <vik> ubuntu: spends a long time on it, then "Nautilus cannot display sftp://xxxxx Please select another viewer and try again."
[10:56] <ubuntu> vik: kinda of stupid question, but sshd is running right/
[10:56] <IcareZ> ubuntu: No i have tried to disable all firewall, but i have the same error
[10:57] <brendonjt> Awesome-o2000: true
[10:57] <ubuntu> IcareZ: r u runing apt-get as normal user or root?
[10:57] <vik> ubuntu: hold on; just got it working to one server; gonna restart the other one and see
[10:57] <Awesome-o2000> ew , felching
[10:57] <ubuntu> k :D
[10:57] <IcareZ> ubuntu: i type sudo apt-get update so i am a root user by the way
[10:57] <ubuntu> IcareZ: true
[10:59] <nocti> what wm/de do you guys use/prefer
[10:59] <ubuntu> IcareZ: try -f
[11:00] <fallingdutch> nocti, i prefer fluxbox
[11:00] <ubuntu> sudo apt-get update -f
[11:00] <vik> ubuntu: damn; it just worked
[11:00] <nocti> fallingdutch, me too
[11:00] <ubuntu> lol
[11:00] <ubuntu> good for ya
[11:00] <ubuntu> ;)
[11:00] <nocti> fallingdutch, can i see a screen shot? thanks
[11:00] <IcareZ> ubuntu: like sudo apt-get -f update ?
[11:00] <ubuntu> IcareZ: yes
[11:00] <IcareZ> ok
[11:01] <maltaethiron> yo yo guys, ive a general question
[11:01] <Chandu> hi
[11:01] <Chandu> May I know how "dpkg-reconfigure" works
[11:01] <maltaethiron> when i "manually announce" something in a torrent client, does that like, summon more people to be seeders and leechers?
[11:02] <mkquist_> boy theres an off topic...hehe
[11:02] <ubuntu> mkquist_: heh
[11:02] <IcareZ> ubuntu: i have the same error
[11:02] <IcareZ> it connect to the packages server with an Ign http://archive......
[11:03] <IcareZ> but it show a Err http://archive....
[11:03] <ubuntu> IcareZ: can u type full message to pastebin?
[11:03] <IcareZ> cant connect
[11:03] <redblades> Hi all, I have a major issue.
[11:03] <YoussefAssad> good morning folks
[11:03] <redblades> I may have just deleted a whole heap of my files.
[11:03] <redblades> Is there any way to recover these on linux?
[11:03] <mkquist_> wow
[11:03] <ubuntu> IcareZ: u did not play with any seetings did ya?
[11:03] <YoussefAssad> can anyone recommend a good and balanced graphical utility for iptables configuration?
[11:03] <ubuntu> settings*
[11:04] <IcareZ> ubuntu: you have the full message here : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=58855
[11:04] <ubuntu> YoussefAssad: it was something like fwbuild , synaptic has it chk there
[11:04] <redblades> Anyone?
[11:04] <ubuntu> IcareZ: chking
[11:04] <IcareZ> ubuntu: no, i have installed ubuntu on an external drive yesterday, and it never work
[11:04] <redblades> I really need these files... : (
[11:04] <IcareZ> ubuntu: chking ?
[11:04] <ubuntu> yes opening link
[11:04] <ubuntu> hold on
[11:05] <IcareZ> ubuntu: sorry i dont understand
[11:05] <YoussefAssad> ubuntu: I had a look at that and I personally think it's pretty nifty. But I have partners (work) for whom I'd like to find something a little more newbie-friendly while not being too moronic (i.e. not sacrificing too much power)
[11:05] <Phreakys> hello
[11:05] <Phreakys> does someone know a trick to enter textmode within a session?
[11:05] <Madpilot> YoussefAssad, Firestarter?
[11:05] <YoussefAssad> ubuntu: I'm in the process of converting northern african and middle eastern microfinance institutions over to open source! :)
[11:05] <Phreakys> i cant enter any key :(
[11:06] <YoussefAssad> Madpilot: Hm, okie, let me look at that. Thanks!
[11:06] <ubuntu> it is in someother language :O
[11:06] <YoussefAssad> ubuntu: they can all work in english, no worries there :)
[11:06] <YoussefAssad> ubuntu: (though I might be able to bully them into doing arabic localizations, come to think of it...)
[11:07] <Nozy> hi hey
[11:07] <omer> Hello
[11:07] <mkquist_> redblades-http://recover.sourceforge.net/linux/
[11:07] <Nozy> hi guys
[11:07] <ubuntu> YoussefAssad:  i was talking to IcareZ
[11:07] <YoussefAssad> Phreakys: text mode as in console?
[11:07] <Phreakys> yes
[11:07] <YoussefAssad> ubuntu: oh. Apologies
[11:07] <wifiworks> disasm: hey you round disasm
[11:07] <omer> How do I install kdevelop? it's not in my resporties
[11:07] <Phreakys> i cant enter any key within my xgl session :(
[11:07] <YoussefAssad> Phreakys: Try Ctrl-Alt-F1
[11:07] <Madpilot> !info kdevelop
[11:07] <Phreakys> was hoping to get some debugginginfo, but cant enter a key
[11:07] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in any distro I know
[11:07] <Phreakys> ok
[11:07] <Phreakys> tnx
[11:07] <ubuntu> IcareZ: sorry no idea
[11:07] <IcareZ> ubuntu: i dont understant if you tell me to open the link or if you tell me that you open the link :p
[11:08] <IcareZ> ubuntu: ok thx
[11:08] <Nozy> guys not sure why but now when i log off I can see a power off
[11:08] <omer> So how to install it? From kde site?
[11:08] <IcareZ> ubuntu: do you know how to disable ipv6 ?
[11:08] <ubuntu> IcareZ: nope
[11:08] <cynical> IcareZ: ipv6 doesnt do anything bad for your system, why would you want to disable it?
[11:09] <ubuntu> omer:  trying to install kdevolp?
[11:09] <IcareZ> cynical: a other guy have the same problem than me, then he solve it by disable ipv6
[11:09] <cynical> IcareZ: whats your problem?
[11:09] <omer> Yes
 search in google
[11:09] <ubuntu> omer:  try this
[11:09] <redblades> mkquist_, I'm on ext3!
[11:10] <IcareZ> cynical: apt-get cant connect on package server
[11:10] <wifiworks> can any one tell me why i get DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
 there's somewhere in the ubuntu forum
[11:10] <wifiworks> for ever
[11:10] <wifiworks> well the 4 changes
[11:10] <wifiworks> hehe
[11:10] <ubuntu> omer:  type sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[11:10] <omer> O.K.
[11:10] <wifiworks> i recompled the module from source and got it working for a  while
[11:10] <IcareZ> irawan: my problem is special because i can connect to the server with firefow
[11:10] <wifiworks> but then i started doing that
[11:11] <wifiworks> no dhcp :(
[11:11] <cynical> IcareZ: well if it'll help, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[11:11] <IcareZ> irawan: but not with apt-get or synaptic
[11:11] <IcareZ> cynical: and then ?
[11:11] <omer> Ubuntu, it doesn't work
[11:11] <cynical> IcareZ: then add alias net-pf-10 ipv6 off alias net-pf-10 off alias ipv6 off
[11:11] <ubuntu> omer: why?
[11:11] <ubuntu> it works here
[11:11] <omer> Couldn't find package kdevelop3
[11:11] <cynical> IcareZ: save and reboot to see if it helps
[11:11] <ubuntu> which ver?
[11:12] <ubuntu> 6?
[11:12] <IcareZ> cynical: ok
[11:12] <Negima> Wow I just upgraded to dapper, what a smooth install, and so many cool features
[11:12] <omer> Ubuntu 6.06, from disk
[11:12] <omer> just now installed
[11:12] <ubuntu> same i have
[11:12] <IcareZ> irawan: have you the link ?
[11:12] <ubuntu> it works here
[11:12] <omer> Weird
[11:12] <YoussefAssad> Negima: hear hear. First distro to do suspend, hibernate, and also read the battery status correctly for me.
[11:13] <mkquist_> redblades-might wanna check out knoppix std
[11:13] <ubuntu> YoussefAssad: yes ubuntu is kool
[11:13] <ubuntu> hehe
[11:13] <IcareZ> cynical: must i add a # in front of : alias net-pf-10 ipv6
 wait, I'm on slow link
[11:13] <IcareZ> irawan: ok thx
[11:13] <Negima> YoussefAssad: Yep, on a laptop here so loving the lowered brightness option, dont know if its new but seems that way
 you can follow what cynical said, just the same thing
[11:13] <cynical> IcareZ: you dont have to
[11:13] <IcareZ> irawan: ok thx
[11:13] <IcareZ> cynical: ok
[11:14] <Negima> Where can i find out how to enable the cool graphics featured on dapper? xgl and suff, is there a howto?
[11:14] <ubuntu> !xgl
[11:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:15] <omer> Also kwifi isn't in the resporties
 or you can try this one http://www.ossgeeks.co.uk/?p=20
[11:15] <Negima> ubuntu: thanks
[11:16] <ubuntu> yw
[11:16] <ubuntu> omer: i think it is kwifimager something
[11:16] <redblades> mkquist_, what good will that do?
[11:17] <mkquist_> redblades-http://www.surfpack.com/software/recoverdatafromlinux/
[11:17] <mkquist_> nm on knoppix, dont think itll help on ext3
[11:17] <ubuntu> mkquist_: ver 5 ur on?
[11:18] <YoussefAssad> wifi-manager
[11:18] <omer> there is nothing with wifi in the name
[11:18] <ubuntu> omer hold on
[11:18] <YoussefAssad> the gnome wifi applet is far superior to the KDE tool, incidentally
[11:18] <mkquist_> redblades-sry nm on that too
[11:18] <ubuntu> omer:  name is kwifimanager
[11:18] <_lupine> and rutilt is far superior to them all ;)
[11:18] <IcareZ> cynical: im back
[11:18] <ubuntu> try apt-get install kwifimanager
[11:18] <_lupine> (well, it will be once it's finished...)
[11:19] <IcareZ> cynical: but i have the same error
[11:19] <omer> Nothing
[11:19] <Gyuszk> re
[11:19] <YoussefAssad> _lupine: I'll look at that...
[11:19] <_lupine> not in the repos... you'll have to make your own
[11:19] <cynical> IcareZ: yeah it doesnt have anything to do with ipv6
[11:19] <ubuntu> man i just downloaded it
[11:19] <cynical> IcareZ: whats the error again, you cant connect to any repos?
[11:19] <IcareZ> cynical: yes
[11:19] <ubuntu> updated from 5 to 6 a couple of hrs back omer :o
[11:19] <YoussefAssad> _lupine: yes, I noticed :)
[11:19] <cynical> IcareZ: and yet you are on irc and can ping servers fine, hmm. Whats the error say?
[11:19] <_lupine> that said, it works like a charm ('though it's focused on ralink cards). Easy to make and install, too.
[11:19] <IcareZ> cynical: i have change the dns ip, but after a reboot ubuntu dont remember anything
[11:19] <omer> I have it from disk
[11:20] <omer> I didn't change the res. or anything else
[11:20] <_lupine> Or grab a .deb from http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386 (ralink-config)
[11:20] <ubuntu> omer let me get the link
[11:20] <cynical> IcareZ: why did you change the dns? Is your isp's not good for you?
[11:20] <_lupine> now I must get to work
[11:20] <ubuntu> u know how to wget?
[11:20] <IcareZ> its not the dns of my isp's
[11:21] <YoussefAssad> _lupine: thanks for the recommendation. Merry work! :)
[11:21] <IcareZ> cynical: the apt-get update answer is here : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=58855
[11:21] <IcareZ> cynical: some part in french, sorry
[11:21] <SirKillalot> does anybody know where to get ekiga's sourcecode from?
[11:22] <ubuntu> well gtg
[11:22] <ubuntu> later guys
[11:22] <ubuntu> tc all
[11:22] <YoussefAssad> bye ubuntu
[11:22] <IcareZ> ubuntu: by
[11:22] <ubuntu> IcareZ: good luck
[11:22] <ubuntu> YoussefAssad: tc
[11:22] <IcareZ> ubuntu: thx
[11:22] <wes_> icegod where the fuck are you
[11:23] <omer> by
[11:23] <cafuego> Mind your language please.
[11:23] <redondo81> can you suggest me a partition editor for kde?Thanks
[11:24] <mkquist_> ubuntu- im sry ver 5?
[11:24] <IcareZ> cynical: have you the link ?
[11:24] <fallingdutch> how can i extract the master-key of a luks encrypted device?
[11:24] <cynical> IcareZ: do you have a router?
[11:25] <YoussefAssad> Phreakys: any luck?
[11:25] <IcareZ> cynical: yes
[11:25] <IcareZ> cynical: a linksys one
[11:25] <cynical> IcareZ: change the dns info to the ip of the router
[11:26] <redondo81> Soryym I have problems with the connection....can you suggest me a partition editor for kde?
[11:26] <cynical> IcareZ: it should then get it from your isp
[11:26] <IcareZ> cynical: i have already tried it
[11:26] <IcareZ> cynical: ok
[11:26] <cynical> IcareZ: do you know your isp's dns servers?
[11:26] <IcareZ> cynical: yes
[11:26] <IcareZ> cynical: must i reboot to apply dns change ?
[11:26] <cynical> IcareZ: Yes
[11:26] <ramvi> Hi, could you help me find a php-editor? I need the ability to search for text through a whole dir or project...
[11:26] <IcareZ> cynical: ok
[11:26] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:27] <redondo81> no one know a good partition editor for kde?
[11:28] <brendonjt> redondo81: sorry i  use gnome
[11:28] <redondo81> no problem:)
[11:28] <|brad|> qtparted?
[11:31] <IcareZ> cynical: re
[11:32] <IcareZ> cynical: with the router dns, i have the same problem
[11:32] <IcareZ> cynical: but i can go on internet
[11:32] <crackSqu1rrel> so in the different window managers, they have different code frameworks and APIs, so that is why you need a different app under KDE than under Gnome in some cases, depending on the applications used libaries/APIs?
[11:34] <cynical> IcareZ: well I'm sorry but I dont know what else to do. For now you can still get packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <IcareZ> ok thx
[11:34] <IcareZ> cynical: can i reinstall ubuntu ?
[11:35] <cynical> IcareZ: yes I would try that
[11:35] <IcareZ> cynical: does change anything
[11:35] <Andy-> cynical: I got it to work :D
[11:35] <IcareZ> cynical: ok thx a lot for your help
[11:35] <cynical> IcareZ: np
[11:35] <cynical> Andy-: what did you do?
[11:35] <Andy-> cynical: it was my router, i turned off the WEP password and it worked...
[11:36] <Andy-> cynical: im going to look into it
[11:36] <Andy-> cynical: just one more question = how do i install a .rpm file?
[11:36] <YoussefAssad> apt-get install alien && man alien
[11:36] <YoussefAssad> Andy-: that was for you! :)
[11:36] <cynical> Andy-: I wouldnt do that, why do you need to?
[11:37] <cynical> Andy: alien converts rpms to deb files
[11:37] <Andy-> installing limewire
[11:37] <Andy-> hold on
[11:37] <cynical> Andy-: ah, check this out instead, http://www.frostwire.com/
[11:37] <Andy-> YoussefAssad: if the file is in my home directory LimeWireLinux.rpm what do i type?
[11:38] <YoussefAssad> Andy-: man alien
[11:38] <cynical> Andy-: frostwire is a free fork of limewire, you would be better off installing it imho
[11:38] <Andy-> cynical: u sure?
[11:38] <cynical> Andy-: yes, there is no difference except one is free and opensource
[11:38] <cynical> Andy-: they use the same network
[11:39] <Andy-> ok 1 more question = how do i install winrar? i got the winrar linux file its a .tar.gz and i extracted it
[11:39] <muhammad> any sudo apt-get install rar
[11:39] <lab_monkey> anyone know wat packages are nescessary to compile opengl programs ?
[11:39] <itsmegb> Andy: archive manager can handle .rar files
 it cant *_*
[11:40] <itsmegb> muhammad: does for me, well opens them atleast
[11:40] <_DvP_> Hello all
[11:40] <muhammad> hmm
[11:40] <muhammad> may be !
[11:40] <Andy-> muhammad: sudo apt-get install rar didn't work
[11:41] <YoussefAssad> muhammad: archive manager probably checks to see if there's a working rar available
[11:41] <muhammad> Andy- u activate the repositories ?
[11:41] <gerald> is there anyway I can stop the sound jittering when my harddrive is loading something
[11:41] <Andy-> muhammad: huh?
[11:41] <YoussefAssad> Andy-: rar is in an external repo AFAIK.
[11:41] <irawan> muhammad: I used automatix to install rar
[11:41] <gerald> especially in firefox, this problem doesn't seem to hapen when I apt-get install something
[11:41] <YoussefAssad> Andy-: you need to add another source
[11:41] <Andy-> YoussefAssad: what u mean another? i just downloaded the tar.gz off their site...
 you're right
[11:41] <muhammad> !tell andy about repositories
[11:42] <irawan> Andy; see ubuntuguide.org
[11:43] <muhammad> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories/Ubuntu?action=show&redirect=AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:43] <irawan> Andy: for automatix and adding repos
 follow that link
[11:43] <YoussefAssad> Andy-: It's considered good form to always use the package manager. You can use the tarball, but it's cleaner to use the package management system because it handles dependencies, uninatall, etc. To get rar, you just need to add a new repo and then you'll find it in the installable packages. irawan mentioned automztix, that's a great way to get rar as well as a lot of other missing goodies
[11:43] <Andy-> iratsu: can u just tell me what to do please all the files are extracted
[11:43] <YoussefAssad> !tell YoussefAssad about automatix
[11:43] <Andy-> ok and what do i do in the pm (packetmanager)
[11:44] <YoussefAssad> !tell Andy- about automatix
[11:44] <irawan> Andy: please check those links first
[11:44] <YoussefAssad> !tell YoussefAssad about life
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <muhammad> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu try this link Andy
[11:44] <muhammad> and u will know abt what we are sayin !
[11:45] <DeKo> hey all
 hey
[11:45] <itsmegb> the package was unrar by the way, i think
[11:46] <muhammad> itsmegb> there are two packages could deal with .rar files
[11:46] <muhammad> rar and unrar ;)
[11:46] <YoussefAssad> itsmegb: I see both package names in my sources
[11:46] <itsmegb> ahhh
[11:46] <DeKo> Does somebody have an All-In-Wonder card?
[11:46] <itsmegb> i only see unrar and unrar-free
[11:47] <YoussefAssad> crap, I forgot where I parked my car
[11:47] <muhammad> itsmegb now u saw rar , unrar and unrar-free :P
[11:47] <itsmegb> yep, now i see rar, haven't got my brain switched on this morning :P
[11:47] <muhammad> heh
[11:47] <cwillu> I've got this interesting glitch on my main desktop, where it hangs whenever I connect to irc;  can no longer ping or ssh to it, and the mouse is just frozen.  Any ideas?
[11:48] <itsmegb> ^^ how are you on irc now then?
[11:48] <cwillu> different machine
[11:48] <cwillu> (re:  the machine that I'm trying to ping and ssh from)
[11:48] <DonLemmi> Hi, is there a way to install ubuntu via network? Like with the debian businesscard-image?
[11:49] <muhammad> DonLemmi u can try sudo nano -w /etc/network/interfaces
[11:49] <vik> !acroread
[11:49] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 22263 kB, installed size 53192 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:50] <DonLemmi> muhammad, i dont understand? I want to install a fresh system via network
[11:50] <muhammad> !ping me
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 there's a guide for warty I somewhere, from there you can upgrade to dapper
[11:50] <redblades> Hi, I'm on ext3, and I've lost a lot of files.
[11:50] <vik> !mozilla-acroread
[11:50] <ubotu> mozilla-acroread: Adobe Acrobat(R) Reader plugin for mozilla / konqueror. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 448 kB, installed size 1268 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:50] <redblades> Is there any way to recover them?
 aha sorry didnt get ya correctly
[11:50] <cwillu> redblades, lost in what sense?
[11:50] <vik> does mozilla-acroread plugin work for anyone?
[11:50] <redblades> I installed gddrescue, but I don't know how to run it!
[11:51] <vik> acroread works, and plugin works in mozilla, but not in firefox
[11:51] <redblades> cwillu, I was moving some folders, and somehow I copied across just folders and lost all content.
[11:52] <cwillu> redblades, and the originals were wiped?  does anything extra show up if you check from a root shell (sudo -s)?
[11:52] <redblades> Uhh... not that I can see... I use what does the -s do?
[11:52] <redblades> (ignore "i use"
[11:53] <cwillu> gives you a root prompt that you can change directories and ls in
[11:53] <cwillu> it's just a wild shot in the dark though
[11:53] <redblades> Nope... nothing more...
[11:54] <KenSentMe> I just tried to install vmware-player on Dapper Drake, but i get this error. Does anyone know how to solve it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22033
[11:54] <redblades> cwillu, ?
[11:54] <gerald> what package do I install for obtaining the X11 libraries?
[11:55] <cwillu> redblades:  looking up the gddrescue docs
[11:55] <muhammad> hmm time for prayin in egypt laterz guys :>>>
[11:55] <redblades> KenSentMe, ich keine sprechen sie deutche... (sorry qabout spelling)
[11:55] <redblades> Uhhh...
[11:55] <KenSentMe> redblades: that's not german but dutch and you don't need to. The error is in english
[11:56] <redblades> Sorry, that's
[11:56] <redblades> KenSentMe, yeah, I just realised after a second...
[11:56] <KenSentMe> redblades: lol
[11:56] <redblades> (about it being dutch)
[11:56] <Andy-> can som1 help me install Wine?
[11:56] <gerald> what package do I install to get the X11 development packages
[11:56] <cwillu> redblades, don't think gddrescue is the tool for this job, unless you got ioerrors while copying/moving, and the originals still show up but are merely corrupted
[11:57] <redblades> Aghh
[11:57] <Andy-> can som1 help me with wine?
[11:57] <redblades> Andy-, sudo apt-get install wine
[11:57] <redblades> cwillu, any other ideas?
[11:58] <cwillu> I'm looking I'm looking :p
[11:58] <app> Is there a guide for "supporting Ubuntu in a corporate Microsoft environment", or similar?
[11:58] <Madpilot> app, not currently - want to write one for us? ;)
[11:58] <cwillu> app, anything in particular you're having trouble with?
[11:59] <cwillu> (still looking redblades )
[11:59] <redblades> cwillu, sorry, anxious, thanks,
[11:59] <cwillu> redblades, hmm, this isn't looking promising actually
[12:00] <itsmegb> Andy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=howto+wine
[12:00] <app> Well, we have images made, and some nerds using Ubuntu successfully. Personally I have troubles in even booting it, because I can not touch my MBR and I fail to laod my Ubuntu partition after booting from a GRUB boot CD...
[12:00] <redblades> cwillu, Wahhh!!!
[12:01] <cwillu> redblades, if my reading of this is correct, ext3 deals with deleting files by actually zero'ing out the contents
[12:01] <cwillu> so, if they actually got deleted/unlinked, then they're actually gone, unless something made a copy somewhere
[12:01] <cwillu> redblades, how exactly were you moving them?
[12:01] <redblades> cwillu, is it any help if I haven't shut down since it happened?
[12:02] <cwillu> redblades, depends on the data and usage
[12:02] <redblades> cwillu, mv /var/www/* /home/redblades/Desktop
[12:02] <app> Is it possible to boot the live CD, install on hard disk partition X without touching the MBR or Windows partitions and then use the live CD to boot the new Ubuntu partition from hard disk?
[12:02] <redblades> cwillu, mv /var/www/* /home/redblades/Desktop/temp
[12:02] <redblades> Sorry, the second one
[12:02] <cwillu> ?
[12:02] <cwillu> k
[12:02] <cwillu> did temp already exist?
[12:02] <boomslap> Hello.  This might be the wrong place for this.  I am trying to create a partition in Partition Magic (Windows) to install ubuntu.  I have 23 gigs unused, but the max space allowable for a new partition is 4 gigs.  What can I do?  (I actually did try to create a partition just from the ubuntu install also and that couldn't get the space either).
[12:02] <cwillu> (and no other flags on the command?)
[12:03] <martinz> good download manager for ubuntu?
[12:03] <cwillu> boomslap, the ubuntu installer should be able to handle resizing the partitions as neccessary
[12:03] <cwillu> and or making new ones of whatever size
[12:03] <gerald> ow do I open a program in terminal without making that terminal dependant on that program
[12:03] <cwillu> oops, guess you said you tried that :/
[12:03] <gerald> gerald so i can still use tha tterminal
[12:03] <app> Or alternatively, does anyone know if you can make my Pointsec encrypted Windows partition boot, if I install GRUB on MBR. Pointsec does not officially support that.
[12:04] <boomslap> Yeah.  I tried the default install option as well as the continuous space option.
[12:04] <cwillu> redblades, still there?
[12:04] <cwillu> redblades, the second one was the exact command line, no extra flags or anything?
[12:04] <redblades> Yeah, I found an article on Linux.com
[12:04] <redblades> cwillu, yes
[12:04] <cwillu> did the temp folder already exist?
[12:05] <app> boomslap. I don't understand why Partition Magic would not use the 23 G space. Can you double check? Is it that you clearly see in Magic a continuous empty 23 G sequence in the ned of the disk, or what?
[12:06] <boomslap> Yes.  There is a continous white patch of empty space at the end of my C:\
[12:06] <app> And what's the phrasing, when it refuses to use it all?
[12:07] <boomslap> Just when I go to create a new partition, maximum size is listed as 4612 mb, and I cannot go over that at all.
[12:07] <redblades> cwillu, I had just created it...
[12:08] <kayde> I need help with bluetooth!!!!! i cant get it working!!!
[12:09] <kayde> why is it so quiet?
[12:09] <Awesome-o2000> boomslap, sounds like you're using fat16
[12:09] <kayde> ?
[12:09] <boomslap> It is NTFS.
[12:09] <cwillu>  we're all thinking
[12:09] <KenSentMe> !bluetooth
[12:09] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:09] <kayde> thanks
[12:09] <cwillu> boomslap, not the partition that's already there
[12:10] <cwillu> Awesome-o2000, boomslap, doesn't really explain why ubuntu is having trouble though
[12:10] <boomslap> Well, it is labeled as NTFS in Partition Magic.  The C:\ drive, that is.
[12:10] <cwillu> boomslap, unpartitioned space doesn't have a type
[12:10] <boomslap> I am trying to create a new partition from partitioned space.
[12:10] <cwillu> boomslap, you can have ntfs and ext3 and reiserfs all on the same drive
[12:11] <cwillu> ?
[12:11] <boomslap> The entire drive is currently in one NTFS partition.
[12:11] <cwillu> so you don't have empty space yet
[12:11] <boomslap> Right.
[12:11] <boomslap> Nothing is unallocated.
[12:11] <Awesome-o2000> boomslap, looks like you're going to need to resize your ntfs partition
[12:11] <cwillu> and it'll only let you resize it by 4 gigs?
[12:11] <boomslap> Create a new one from it.
[12:11] <boomslap> If I resize it smaller, do I risk losing any files?
[12:11] <cwillu> quite
[12:12] <app> boomslap, you probably have 4 G empty un-partioned space somewhere.
[12:12] <Awesome-o2000> boomslap, my recommendation is to defrag then resize
[12:12] <cwillu> you're moving data around, and if the machine crashes (power goes out, etc) while it does that, you're probably hosed
[12:12] <app> That's all you can do before to resize the existing partition
[12:12] <cwillu> but you'll need to resize it to make a new partition...
[12:12] <boomslap> Ah.
[12:12] <gerald> is there a way I can ls hidden files only?
[12:13] <cwillu> it's technically possible to make a partition out of a file in ntfs, but you'd be running experimental stuff on top of other experimental stuff, etc
[12:13] <boomslap> So barring a crash, power out... resizing won't impact any data currently on the partition as long is I make it greater than what I have?
[12:14] <cwillu> boomslap, you can resize it down to the amount of data you have in the partition (i.e., if you have an 80gig partition with 20gig of data, you should be able to resize it down to around 20gigs, freeing up 60 to make a new partition (although you really want to leave some free space on the old partition))
[12:14] <kayde> KenSentMe: erm...its too complex for me :(
[12:14] <boomslap> Okay. :)
[12:14] <app> Resizing with Partition Magic is quite safe, but let's say you have a 1/1000 chance to screw up, if you don't defraqment first, and 1/10000 if you do.
[12:14] <boomslap> Got it.  Thanks for the help.
[12:14] <Awesome-o2000> you will defragment, thats an order mister.
[12:14] <cwillu> boomslap, just don't do it with stuff you absolutely can't afford to lose, because it's always a possibility
[12:14] <t-thing> Where can I find multimedia output selector? I remember seeing it in previous versions of gnome but now I can't find it.
[12:15] <cwillu> redblades, any luck?
[12:16] <app> boomslap, the biggest risk is if your hard diks is old or bad, and it suddenly goes bad with all this new busy activity...
[12:16] <kayde> I need help with bluetooth...I am a total linux newb..!
[12:16] <redblades> Uhh, I it looks promising...
[12:17] <mikeconcepts> how do i get a channel list?
[12:17] <HFall> can anybody help me?
[12:17] <ranpha> hi question, i want to know something about filesystem.. No not which is better and faster for boot. No i want to know which filesystem is best for datastorage.It has to be safe, stable less errors and a undelete function.. what do you think?
[12:18] <gerald> #
[12:18] <e-type> re all
[12:18] <ranpha> mikeconcepts   typ /list
[12:18] <kayde> man!
[12:18] <mikeconcepts> ranpha: mant thanks
[12:18] <mikeconcepts> many
[12:18] <Samuli^> ranpha, well undelete rules out ext3 which would have been otherwise me thinks.
[12:19] <Samuli^> +fine
[12:19] <cwillu> isn't there some kernel option that layers undelete over top now?
[12:19] <cwillu> ranpha, what style of undelete do you need?
[12:19] <app> Has anyone any experience with the Canonical basic 250 dollar/year support package? Can they provide detailed technical help for experts, or is it only for newbies?
[12:20] <kayde> how long do i have to wait for help, or is there an easier way
[12:20] <ranpha> Well I want a filesystem which is as stable as a nuclair shelter....i thinking about ext3 ,ext2 and fat
[12:20] <kayde> any forums?
[12:20] <Samuli^> ranpha, rule out fat for starters.
[12:20] <app> Is it any better than self-help here, in the Wiki and in Google.
[12:21] <infidel> !mp3
[12:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:21] <ranpha> Samuli......i mean fat32 off course :=)....
[12:21] <cwillu> ranpha, what type of undelete though?  recyclebin style, full archival, full-archival with branching?
[12:21] <Samuli^> ranpha, yes, forget about it :)
[12:21] <Lynoure> ranpha: even hardware is not that stable, so remember offsite backups
[12:21] <emil_> Hello
[12:21] <ranpha> Cwillu no recycle (need every bit i can get my hands on, so full archival...???
[12:21] <emil_> I downloaded a file
[12:22] <emil_> But Totem says: " You do not have a decoder to handle this file"
[12:22] <emil_> What should i install
[12:22] <emil_> other films i could play
[12:22] <Madpilot> kayde, ubuntuforums.org - but try repeating your question about 5-10 minutes after you first ask it; people come and go and miss questions they can answer
[12:22] <cynical> ranpha: also rule out ext2, which is just ext3 without journaling
[12:22] <app> ranpha and others, I would just be happy with Windows-stype recycling help, but file system level, nothing like desktop level or alias rm=saferm level.
[12:22] <kayde> I cant get my damn USB bluetooth adapter to work any help??!
[12:23] <t-thing> Where can I find the multimedia systems selector in Gnome?
[12:23] <Samuli^> cwillu, if you really need safe storage, maybe you should use raid. Although I don't know how well software raid works in linux and hardware is costy,
[12:23] <cwillu> ranpha, so you need historical?  what granularity?  (i.e., if a program writes something to a file every 10 seconds for a year, do you need every version?)
[12:23] <Madpilot> !bluetooth
[12:23] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:23] <Madpilot> kayde, ^^^
[12:23] <cwillu> Samuli^, raid works fine, but that's not what ranpha's asking about
[12:23] <cwillu> or at least, not everything that he's asking about
[12:23] <ranpha> Cwillu it's for photo/images storage and where talking about 900 gig on photos
[12:23] <kayde> Madpilot: nope...i cant understand that stuff
[12:24] <kayde> Madpilot: its mumbojumbo for me
[12:24] <redblades> cwillu, I've started the program, but I'm confused about which part to scan... it has Whole Disk (but it says empty, so that's not it)
[12:24] <cwillu> ranpha, would something like a write-once file system be appropriate then?
[12:24] <Madpilot> kayde, then ask specific questions about the parts of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup that you don't understand...
[12:24] <Samuli^> cwillu, I know, I was just trying add some options for him because hardware is prone to break up.
[12:24] <app> As far as I understand there is no usable simple "undelete" for ext2, ext3 or reiserfs?
[12:24] <emil_> Totem says, you do not have decoder to handle this file, what should i install, it's a wmv file
[12:24] <ranpha> cwillu write-once???
[12:25] <cynical> emil_: install w32codecs
[12:25] <cwillu> ranpha, files are readonly once written
[12:25] <Samuli^> app, I think there is for atleast ext2.
[12:25] <app> I have tried the ext2/3 undelete tools with very moderate success.
[12:25] <kayde> Madpilot: I intend on fixing it tonight, not in 3 weeks...;-)
[12:25] <ranpha> no cwillu...i need to make changes to it....like putting in more photo's and deleting some dupilcates
[12:25] <cwillu> redblades, what app? gddrescue still?
[12:25] <Nameless> someone could help me ? http://beer.altervista.org/amsn-cvs_.png
[12:25] <Madpilot> kayde, then you're going to have to ask lots of good questions in here tonight...
[12:26] <cwillu> ranpha, but the duplicates would have to be undeletable for all time?
[12:26] <redblades> Uhh.. no. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22033
[12:26] <redblades> Ooops
[12:26] <ranpha> Cwillu no
[12:26] <emil_> cynical: how do i install w32codecs
[12:26] <redblades> cwillu, http://servers.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/21/1558230&from=rss
[12:26] <cwillu> ranpha, then it'd be easier to have a file system that's write once, and then another file system that just links to iot
[12:26] <Losty> yo
[12:26] <RMorris84> what codecs do i need to watch .mov files?
[12:26] <rooter> emil_: apt-get install w42codecs
[12:26] <RMorris84> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:26] <Madpilot> need sleep - good night all
[12:27] <ranpha> Cwillu i want to keep things a simpele as possible
[12:27] <mikeconcepts> how do I join the channel for xgl questions?
[12:27] <william_> hi
[12:27] <rooter> Madpilot: good night? what time is it?
[12:27] <cynical> emil_: here is a link to the package, http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[12:27] <emil_> cynical: i allready had w32codecs, what should i do
[12:27] <william_> any ladies wanna chat
[12:27] <kayde> william_: LOOL
[12:27] <Lynoure> heh
[12:27] <Losty> yeah im a lady
[12:27] <cynical> emil_: oh is the file drm'd?
[12:27] <william_> hey losty
[12:27] <RMorris84> william_ ur looking for the general banter room lol
[12:28] <valehru> haha
[12:28] <cwillu> ranpha, do you need to be able to recover from somebody blanking out a photo?
[12:28] <Losty> i want you to show me your sexy skills at running broadcom
[12:28] <emil_> i don't know, but i want to play it :P
[12:28] <cynical> emil_: IE is it porn? Because if its drm'd you wont be able to play it in linux
[12:28] <Losty> lol
[12:28] <william_> what is trhat
[12:28] <william_> that
[12:28] <Losty> wireless sorry mate
[12:28] <valehru> thats a first..
[12:28] <mikeconcepts> how do I join the channel for xgl questions?
[12:28] <emil_> cynical: it's a capture from TV, and i want to play it because i missed it i had vacation
[12:28] <cwillu>  /join #ubuntu-xgl
[12:28] <william_> i want some pusssy\
[12:28] <mikeconcepts> thx
[12:28] <|brad|> Losty: broadcom 44xx?
[12:28] <|brad|> rofl
[12:29] <kayde> hoo-boy
[12:29] <ranpha> Cwillu no....just want a stable filesystem..forget about undelete...i have backups for that....(reminder not to try delete both backups ...did that yesterday)
[12:29] <RMorris84> lol
[12:29] <Nameless> http://beer.altervista.org/amsn-cvs_.png
[12:29] <cynical> emil_: why is it in wmv format?
[12:29] <Nameless> help
[12:29] <Nameless> :E
[12:29] <kayde> you will get plenty of it in a chat room! :P lol
[12:29] <RMorris84> cynical: lol
[12:29] <Losty> hahh
[12:29] <Losty> lolol
[12:29] <emil_> cynical: i don't know, but they only have wmv
[12:29] <william_> are ther any ladies that want there pussy ate
[12:29] <kayde> in a sunny day with flying pigs
[12:29] <cwillu> ranpha, I'd recommend sticking with ext3 then, it's the most stable file system on linux
[12:29] <Lynoure> !language
[12:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:29] <Losty> yeah i reckon
[12:29] <mif> hi
[12:30] <kayde> yup
[12:30] <jorik> emil_: did you try playing it with xine ? xine worked perfectly for me after i installed the W32codecs
[12:30] <cynical> emil_: well you should be able to play it with w32codecs, if not try sudo apt-get install vlc and see if it can play it
[12:30] <mif> Is there anybody from PL?
[12:30] <ranpha> cwillu okay thanks
[12:30] <cynical> mif: :o
[12:30] <cynical> mif: cant read it but I can speak it!
[12:30] <|brad|> anyone have sata2 working in ubuntu?
[12:30] <cynical> mif: polish american :\
[12:30] <kayde> i need help with bluetooth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:31] <cynical> |brad|: my drive is sata2 and it works in ubuntu
[12:31] <app> cwillu, ranpha, I guess I tried "undelete" and "recover" to undelete files in ext2, to no success. The gddrescue you mentioned seems to be something else, not undelete.
[12:31] <mif> cynical, ok thx :)
[12:31] <william_> hello any ladies wanna chat] 
[12:31] <purfier> |brad|: yes
[12:31] <cynical> mif: lol np
[12:31] <|brad|> oh really?
[12:31] <purfier> |brad|: no problem at all
[12:31] <cynical> |brad|: yes indeed
[12:31] <|brad|> onboard chipsets?
[12:31] <cwillu> app, yes, gddrescue is corruption recovery
[12:31] <purfier> plug and play
[12:31] <purfier> :)
[12:31] <purfier> yes, onboard
[12:31] <cynical> |brad|: yep onboard
[12:31] <kayde> ;-)
[12:31] <|brad|> bah :)
[12:31] <cwillu> app:  redblades had mentioned a url
[12:31] <purfier> hehe
[12:31] <ranpha> App , cwillu, what i find is strange is there really no program to recover lost files on ext2 ext3??? not even for data experts??
[12:31] <cynical> |brad|: mine is of the jmicron variety *sigh*
[12:31] <|brad|> i have a promise tx2300 sata2 card
[12:32] <rapier> my xubuntu server stopped responding on the network and i couldn't get a signal from the monitor and had to hard boot - how do i found out what went wrong?
[12:32] <purfier> http://home.dreamtec.org/log
[12:32] <cwillu> ranpha, you can go poking through the contents with any disk editor
[12:32] <redblades> ranpha, there is - just that it's not as easy as Winpoo.
[12:32] <Nameless> could someome help me ?
[12:32] <Nameless> -_
[12:33] <ranpha> redblades......and??? youre gonna tell how?
[12:33] <cynical> |brad|: read this, http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=3253&cat=303
[12:33] <cwillu> ranpha, ext3 just tries really really hard not to lose stuff in the first place (/lost+found generally contains stuff it finds after a hard reboot, generally stuff that was unlinked, but the metadata wasn't updated yet)
[12:33] <|brad|> cynical purfier, i  installed kernel 2.6.17.11 which said had support for my card... still doesnt work... have any ideas for me?
[12:33] <redblades> Look at the URL above (by me)
[12:34] <redblades> ranpha, http://servers.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/21/1558230&from=rss
[12:34] <cwillu> ranpha, lost-as-in-deleted-files really shouldn't be easily recoverable, and ext3 is robust to pretty much everything else that would cause it, beyond hardware failure
[12:34] <rapier> anyone? how do i find out why my server crashed?
[12:35] <e-type> rapier: by checking the logs
[12:35] <Awesome-o2000> ranpha, is it THAT hard to simply pay attention to what you're doing?
[12:35] <rapier> which logs?
[12:35] <ranpha> Thanks cwillu....btw something complety different...is it possibel to have both a wired network and a wireless netwrok?
[12:35] <cwillu> yep
[12:35] <Nameless> i have a problem with amsn
[12:35] <cwillu> ranpha, might be non-trivial to set up, but it should be quite possible
[12:35] <emil_> cynical: how do i see the film in VLC
[12:35] <e-type> rapier: the ones in /var/log/
[12:35] <emil_> cynical: i only head the sound
[12:35] <ranpha> Awesome-o2000 YES IT IS <-----HITS MY SELF......really it is....
[12:35] <cynical> |brad|: apparently openSUSE 10.1 has support, but sadly I dont see anything for ubuntu
[12:36] <cynical> emil_: because its drm'd porn, it wont work!
[12:36] <cwillu> ranpha, are you familiar with the command line methods of configuring interfaces?
[12:36] <Awesome-o2000> ranpha, are you sure you want to use LInux?
[12:36] <rapier> i checked the syslog and there's nothing in there
[12:36] <emil_> cynical: lol it is tv capture
[12:36] <emil_> but i'll check it in windows
[12:36] <cynical> emil_: I'm telling you, the only reason it would not work is because of copy protection
[12:37] <cynical> emil_: which I'm sure you dont have enabled on your tv capture card :P
[12:37] <Awesome-o2000> emil_, no porn for you - 1 year!
[12:37] <emil_> lol :P
[12:37] <ranpha> Awesome-o2000 my misake is as easily made in windows as in linux....i was just drunken (without any alchol) and manual delete both files on my hdd and backuphdd....how is that for stable
[12:37] <e-type> rapier: you'll have to give more symptoms to find a cure ;)
[12:37] <HeathenDan> darn it. how come whenever i insert a data dvd in my drive, it appears for a split second on the file manager and disappears? ubuntu doesn't mount it. =\
[12:37] <emil_> cynical: it's this file:http://rapidshare.de/files/30233017/Groningen_-_Fey_2006.wmv.html
[12:37] <rapier> e-type: i want to, but i don't know how to find them or what i'm looking for
[12:37] <cynical> emil_: ok I'll check it
[12:37] <cwillu> ranpha, should probably get in the habit of mv'ing stuff instead, or just using gnome/nautilus (which has a trash bin)
[12:38] <ranpha> cwillu i prefer using networkmanager but i want to do this. have two account. one is connect to wirless and the other is connect to wired network
[12:38] <Awesome-o2000> ranpha, then your problem is not with the file system, its with paying attention to what you are doing. Do that, and you can choose whatever file system you want. Don't blame it on the OS if you do something careless.
[12:38] <emil_> cynical: it's a captured soccer match
[12:38] <cwillu> ranpha, but I generally appreciate it that stuff (such as private keys) is actually gone when I tell the system to remove it :)
[12:38] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: Hey Cynical! Can you help me with something else?
[12:38] <ranpha> Awesome-o2000 i not blaming anybody just my self.....
[12:38] <cynical> AndyIsMVP: sure dude whats up?
[12:39] <cwillu> ranpha, or start using version control on your photo's
[12:39] <e-type> rapier: is the damn thing running? did it simply get stuck? did smoke come out of it? we know less than you do
[12:39] <denver1> does anyone how how to creat  a SmartBoot Manager boot cd?
[12:39] <Awesome-o2000> ranpha, alrighty - but you'd be better served by paying better attention rather than looking for a marine-proof file system
[12:39] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: Wine is up :P how do I install it? Iv googled around and there have been problems on amd64 got any ideas?
[12:39] <rapier> e-type it just got stuck, it stopped responding to the network and wouldn't send any signal to the monitor. it had to be hard boot
[12:39] <ranpha> Cwillue or i need to format my diskthe right way... I formatted then in a NSLU2 :-)
[12:39] <e-type> HeathenDan: is there no error message at all?
[12:39] <HeathenDan> none
[12:40] <e-type> HeathenDan: insert the disk and run 'mount' in a terminal. does it show up as mounted?
[12:40] <HeathenDan> yes, it mounts if i manually mount it
[12:40] <OverLord> hi
[12:41] <HeathenDan> i just want it to appear on the FM or desktop so i can mount it without sudo
[12:41] <cynical> AndyIsMVP: check this tut out, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557&highlight=wine+64
[12:41] <EVRAMP> hello while i am cofiguring wine i recieve this error: /home/evramp/winex/wine: binary overlaps reserved area (08048000-0804c9ec) wine: chdir to /home/evramp/.wine/wineserver-pepa : No such file or directory. Registry install failed. PLS COULD YOU HELP ME? THANX
[12:41] <HeathenDan> cause, i can't "eject volume" if it's root-mounted
[12:41] <e-type> HeathenDan: is it not mentioned in fstab?
[12:41] <ranpha> cwillu but what about my plan with two networks???
[12:41] <HeathenDan> lemme check fstab
[12:41] <emil_> how  do i unrar something in linux
[12:41] <cynical> emil_: right click on it, extract here
[12:42] <ranpha> emil_ use unrar in apt
[12:42] <AndyIsMVP> cynical:  thanks :)
[12:42] <e-type> EVRAMP: ask in #wine ;)
[12:42] <cynical> emil_: make sure you have the package rar installed
[12:42] <cynical> AndyIsMVP: np :D
[12:42] <HeathenDan> hmm, it is listed, with the noauto flag
[12:42] <EVRAMP> e-type its winehq and i asked :)
[12:42] <e-type> HeathenDan: remove it
[12:42] <HeathenDan> do i remove that?
[12:42] <e-type> HeathenDan: with your favourite editor
[12:42] <emil_> cynical: it's a splitted rar
[12:42] <HeathenDan> ok, mousepad it is
[12:42] <HeathenDan> :p
[12:42] <cynical> emil_: oh, extract the version named .rar or part01.rar
[12:42] <emil_> oke
[12:42] <e-type> EVRAMP: this is not a wine support channel...
[12:43] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: iv looked at that tutorial and it doesn't work
[12:43] <cynical> AndyIsMVP: have you tried compiling wine from source?
[12:43] <HeathenDan> ok, do i reboot to get it working?
[12:44] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: d/w i got an idea
[12:44] <cynical> AndyIsMVP: kk
[12:44] <denver1> does anyone khow how to creat  a SmartBoot Manager boot cd?
[12:44] <denver1> know
[12:44] <e-type> HeathenDan: nope, shouldn't be necessary
[12:45] <sorush20> hi guys what is wx config and where do I get it from?
[12:46] <cynical> emil_: hey emil, I can watch that file in totem just fine
[12:46] <RMorris84> how do i play .mov files?
[12:47] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: need help. Using this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167765 im up to step 3
[12:47] <cynical> RMorris84: install w32codecs
[12:47] <e-type> RMorris84: install mplayer with quicktime codecs
[12:47] <emil_> cynical: what is the problem than you think?
[12:47] <RMorris84> i have mplayer... how do i know if the codecs are installed?
[12:47] <RichEd> hi all
[12:47] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: i get: unable to find source package for wine
[12:47] <RMorris84> cynical: i just installed them and logged back in and its still not playing
[12:47] <cynical> emil_: I think you might not have all the codecs installed. Get Easy Ubuntu here and check anything related to codecs
[12:48] <cynical> emil_: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[12:48] <emil_> oke thanks
[12:48] <RichEd> Anyone here close to Georgia, Europe ? With any business interests in training ?
[12:48] <rapier> e-type: i've checked every single log file for the date it crashed in /var/log and i don't see a single thing. what else can i check?
[12:49] <infidel> RichEd, kinda close
[12:49] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: u there cynical?
[12:49] <cynical> AndyIsMVP: type 'apt-get build-dep wine' and then 'apt-get --build source wine'
[12:49] <fooadd> my brother left his laptop with me, ubuntu is installed, I wanna know which boot loader is installed(LILO , Grub) how do I know that?
[12:49] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: if i use ur guide i get an error
[12:49] <Losty81> grub will say at beginning
[12:49] <cynical> AndyIsMVP: do what I typed above
[12:49] <Losty81> hold down escape
[12:50] <RichEd> infidel: Where are you ? can I ping you for a private conversation (Canonical requirement)
[12:50] <kayde> HOW THE @#$% do I Install the dam themes ive downloaded?????!!!!!
[12:50] <kintaro0e> hello guys..how to create alias?
[12:50] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: E: Unable to find a source package for wine
[12:50] <AndyIsMVP> cynical: It still says it
[12:50] <kayde> kintaro0e: /nick
[12:50] <infidel> RichEd, yes
[12:50] <kayde> kintaro0e: /nick <then the name>
[12:50] <RMorris84> kayde... chill, then just drag and drop the tar.gz into the theme manager in system/pref/themes
[12:51] <e-type> rapier: not much, you'd have to try to reproduce it
[12:51] <cynical> try getting it from cvs: http://www.codeweavers.com/support/docs/wine-user/getting-wine-source
[12:51] <kintaro0e> kayde: nope..i mean i'll alias my user to root :)
[12:51] <rapier> great, it's happened twice at around 2am
[12:51] <wolfrider> Have a problem  installing ubuntu on my laptop.
[12:51] <wolfrider> Cannot make / on ext3 is the error during install.
[12:51] <e-type> kintaro0e: so you mean a shell alias?
[12:51] <pharcvde> anyone here use reiserfs or xfs?
[12:52] <due> newbie alert, anyway, long story short: i was compiling something as root, realiesd i was doing make install before make, ctrl+c'ed out... and discovered that nothing works any more. :\
[12:52] <e-type> kintaro0e: you shouldn't give yourself root rights all the time
[12:52] <kayde> kintaro0e: ohhh i get ya, i thought a irc alias
[12:52] <kintaro0e> i mean i'll alias my user to root :)
[12:52] <rapier> i sure am glad that i installed the super stable ubuntu instead of windows so i don't have to reboot my machine all the time *rolleyes*
[12:52] <kintaro0e> ah
[12:52] <ranpha> btw how can you really format a ext3 disk good. because when i delete a partion and then make a new one it shows all the old files just sitting there?
[12:52] <kintaro0e> kayde: hheheh
[12:52] <Losty81> I was wondering if anyone here could help me with getting wireless running on my laptop --- wireless is only method I have of connecting this computer to net --- i dual boot  xp/ubuntu
[12:53] <e-type> kintaro0e: you can't "alias" a user... you can use su or sudo, but it would be unwise to have root rights all the time
[12:53] <ranpha> losty81 how can i help?
[12:53] <pharcvde> Losty81, what kind of laptop
[12:53] <due> "bash: cd: permission denied" :s
[12:53] <kayde> I need help!! I CANT get the friken themes i downloaded to install, i cant figure it out...!
[12:53] <RMorris84> kayde: did u see my response?
[12:53] <e-type> due: is that as user or as root?
[12:53] <pharcvde> err what kind of wireless actually?
[12:53] <due> e-type: as user
[12:53] <Losty81> broadcom --
[12:53] <due> e-type: i can't even log in any more
[12:53] <pharcvde> are you trying wep
[12:54] <kintaro0e> e-type: for example if there is an email to the root, then i could read on it
[12:54] <pharcvde> or wpa?
[12:54] <kayde> RMorris84: OHHHHH TY!
[12:54] <RMorris84> np
[12:54] <due> e-type: i kind of get the impression that i've fucked the filesystem
[12:54] <ranpha> braodcom...of dear losty81 use ndiswrapper
[12:54] <RMorris84> losty81 i have a broadcom
[12:54] <RMorris84> on my presario laptop
[12:54] <e-type> due: that would be an odd makefile ;)
[12:54] <wolfrider> any one help me with solution to error during install. (couldnt make / on ext3)
[12:54] <due> e-type: :) hehe
[12:55] <kayde> RMorris84: erm, wherre is that?
[12:55] <e-type> due: what's 'ls -l' say on the folder you're trying to get into?
[12:55] <due> e-type: nothing works.
[12:55] <RMorris84> what the theme manager?
[12:55] <kayde> RMorris84: file system?
[12:55] <due> e-type: it ended up shutting down on me, booting up, i can't even log in; says it doesn't have permission to chdir to my home directory
[12:55] <cynical> RMorris84: Easy ubuntu enables playing of mov files, but if you are desperate theres a package in the repos called quicktime-x11utils which comes with lqtplay, a 'simple player for movies in Quicktime format'
[12:55] <e-type> due: you somehow changed some permissions
[12:55] <due> e-type: okay...
[12:56] <e-type> due: you'll have to boot into rescue mode, login as root and set permissions right
[12:56] <due> e-type: any idea how i'd go about fixing them? :)
[12:56] <due> okay
[12:56] <hadrien> how can I install the new java version ?
[12:56] <due> :D
[12:56] <RMorris84> kayde: where is what?
[12:56] <Luck> How big file is possible send via Samba?
[12:56] <OmegaNine> Why isnt xine or gmplayer in Multivers, i would think it woudl be.
[12:56] <e-type> due: the fact that you get to the login shows that it's not completely screwed ;)
[12:56] <due> e-type: great, would you be able to explain what needs to be changed?
[12:56] <RMorris84> cynical thanks illl try that
[12:56] <due> e-type: YAY :)
[12:56] <e-type> due: sorry, leaving in 3 minutes ;)
[12:56] <due> e-type: This is really my first major foreay into linux; i've run it on another pc for a while, but i decided that i liked it so much, i'd dual boot windows/linux :)
[12:56] <tjb> Why is Ubuntu more popular than Kubuntu?
[12:56] <e-type> due: must study, but there's other guys around ;)
[12:56] <due> aww. :) can you point me in the right direction?
[12:57] <due> ie, what to google for? :)
[12:57] <e-type> due: just check your home folder, it should still be owned by your user and rwx for your user
[12:58] <due> e-type: okay :)
[12:58] <e-type> due: an 'ls -l /home' should show you
[12:58] <tjb> Is it mainly because of GNOME?  Is it also because Ubuntu has been around for longer?
[12:59] <kayde> RMorris84: erm, it says its done it, and its now avaliable, but its not in the themes menu :(
[12:59] <azathoth> i'm trying to use xinit to open Steam via wine in another server... but for some reason, it isn't opening the app... xinit works fine for anything else i try, just b0rks on wine...
[12:59] <due> rwxr-xr-x... rwx owner.
[12:59] <azathoth> i'm using "xinit wine Steam.exe -- :1" in a bash script (i cd into the Steam directory first)
[01:00] <e-type> due: should be at least rwx------ owned by your user
[01:00] <azathoth> but it just returns me to my original xsession when i try and run it...
[01:00] <RMorris84> kayde: u gotta link to what ur trying to install... i have sometimes found some themes dont workkk depends on where u get them, also make sure the file is themename.tar.gz (.tar.gz) is important make sure its not themename_tar.gz or something i have found that happens to help
[01:00] <Losty81> Does anyone know if ndiswrapper comes standard in latest distro of ubuntu?? or do i have to download??
[01:01] <OmegaNine> Losty81, I dont have it, and i have a base isntall ATM
[01:01] <kayde> RMorris84: thanks :0
[01:01] <RMorris84> least he said thanks  lol
[01:01] <Losty81> yeah spewing.... I need ndiswrapper to use wireless to access the net ...only way i can on my laptop....no method of wired net
[01:02] <Losty81> catch 22
[01:02] <RMorris84> Losty81: what model broadcom
[01:03] <Losty81> bcmwl5
[01:03] <RMorris84>  Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311
[01:03] <RMorris84> is mine
[01:03] <RMorris84> i used that driver on mine
[01:03] <Losty81> and it worked?
[01:03] <RMorris84> did u get it off the forums? bc that worked for me
[01:03] <RMorris84> do u have a wireless manager?
[01:03] <RMorris84> yeah thats how im talking to u now :)
[01:04] <OmegaNine> Dl and write it to disk then move it to your lappy?
[01:04] <Losty81> i cant download anything -- is it possible to download ndiswrapper and save it on my xp partition?? im on xp now....i dual boot
[01:04] <Losty81> cant acess net under ubuntu anyway shap or form
[01:04] <fooadd> Losty81, so this means I must restart the laptop to know? no other way?
[01:04] <OmegaNine> Losty81, You can access your XP partition under Ubuntu by defualt
[01:05] <Andy-> cynical: cynical i have a problem with FrostWire. I go Under Applications > Internet > FrostWire and i click on it but nothing happens?
[01:05] <Losty81> yeah ok --- so i suppose my question is where do i find ndiswrapper and how do i install it?
[01:05] <fooadd> Andy-, try running it from a terminal, and see what errors you get
[01:05] <RMorris84> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920
[01:05] <RMorris84> losty thats for u
[01:05] <Andy-> fooadd: how do i do that?
[01:06] <Losty81> thanks
[01:06] <fooadd> just type frostwire, I guess (??), or whatever the executable is named
[01:06] <Losty81> i had been looking through forums ---- could only find walk throughs that required net
[01:06] <Andy-> fooadd: ahh silly me i need jde (java right?)
[01:07] <cynical> Andy-: do you not have java?
[01:07] <cynical> Andy-: hehe yes
[01:07] <fooadd> yup
[01:07] <RMorris84> Prerequisite
[01:07] <RMorris84>     * Ubuntu dapper
[01:07] <RMorris84>     * A wireless card that shows up in Ubuntu
[01:07] <RMorris84>     * A driver installation CD (for Windows) OR a driver for your card from the internet
[01:07] <RMorris84>     * Access to the Ubuntu Universe Repository
[01:07] <Losty81> This guide assumes 2 things:
[01:07] <Losty81> Wired internet access on the machine
[01:07] <RMorris84> so u should be good losty
[01:07] <Andy-> cynical: i only installed ubuntu 2 days ago, my 1st real linux distro (i fiddled around with DSL)
[01:07] <Andy-> cynical: so i havn't done much
[01:08] <Losty81> i dont have access
[01:08] <Losty81> im on xp at the moment
[01:08] <ranpha> btw about that braodcom driver...why does it work in Sarge very good and my ath0 not. And in ubuntu it's the other way around...don't get that
[01:08] <Losty81> cant access net from ubuntu
[01:08] <Losty81> no wired net
[01:08] <Losty81> only way i can acess the net at the moment it through wireless
[01:08] <daaku> hi all
[01:08] <OmegaNine> Losty81, Its duel boot though right?
[01:09] <Losty81> yeah
[01:09] <Losty81> im on xp now
[01:09] <cynical> Andy-: Have you tried automatix? Its nice and easy
[01:09] <tengil> anyone know of some console program i can use to turn a picture
[01:09] <OmegaNine> Losty81, Then DL it to XP, you will be able to access it via Linux
[01:09] <cynical> Andy-: and you can install most of the stuff you need straight from it (like java, frostwire, codecs, etc)
[01:09] <fooadd> tengil, turn a picture?
[01:09] <mopflite> tengil: it can almost certainly done with the imagemagick (sp?) suite
[01:09] <Losty81> ndiswrap .... yah ok ....yeah cheers
[01:09] <OmegaNine> tengil, ...Gimp?
[01:10] <tengil> fooadd: yeah i mean rotate
[01:10] <tengil> and umm gimp does it from console?
[01:10] <RMorris84> losty- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDriver%2FBroadcom43xx
[01:10] <Losty81> ubuntu doesnt come standard with this ndiswrap
[01:10] <RMorris84> another good page
[01:10] <mopflite> tengil: by "from console", do you mean at the command line only without actually opening or viewing the image?
[01:10] <Andy-> what java do i get?: Linux RPM, Linux Self Extracting, Linux x64 or Linux x64 RPM (Im on amd-64 - ubuntu)
[01:10] <OmegaNine> tengil, Im not 100% sure, but it think so, give me a min will google.
[01:11] <Losty81> thanks heaps guys
[01:11] <RMorris84> np
[01:11] <tengil> mopflite: yes from commandline
[01:11] <fooadd> tengil, apt-get install imagemagick , and then use "convert" man convert
[01:11] <OmegaNine> LOL thats too cool fooadd
[01:11] <Losty81> problem is there is no ndiswrapper default on ubuntu --- latest at least
[01:11] <Oni-Dracula> where did you come from, where did you go, where did you come from, cotton eye joe?
[01:12] <OmegaNine> Losty81, There may be, but i use intel - so ubuntu wouldnt install it
[01:12] <Andy-> cynical: what java do i get?: Linux RPM, Linux Self Extracting, Linux x64 or Linux x64 RPM (Im on amd-64 - ubuntu)
[01:12] <mopflite> tengil: man convert
[01:13] <Losty81> yeah im on intel too
[01:13] <daaku> i'm trying to figure out why i cant get my internal SD card device to show up as /dev/mmcblk0 on edgy - from what i've read, it seems like something in the 2.6.17 kernel has changed might be causing it. anyone got any ideas?
[01:13] <mopflite> sorry, convert -help
[01:13] <kintaro0e> e-type kayde: how to solve my problem on alias?what i like is this: i want to see the emails of the root because i install logwatch..that emails the logs to the root..so how will i read also the emails?i read about alias..any idea?
[01:13] <fooadd> tengil, http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-graf/?ca=dnt-428
[01:13] <cynical> Andy-: open synaptic and search for 'java jre' then install sun-java5-jre
[01:13] <Losty81> ican only find the source for ndiswrapper
[01:14] <Losty81> no idea how to compile it.....
[01:14] <Andy-> cynical: thanks
[01:14] <Andy-> cynical: oh yerh how do i change my desktop to kde?
[01:14] <OmegaNine> Losty81: LOL you are screwed at every corner
[01:14] <tengil> i found something similar. it just feels a bit excessive to install imagemagick on a box without x to do it hehe
[01:14] <due> anyone have suggestions on how i can fix an issue with permissions? was compiling something as root, ctrl+c'ed out, now find that i can't do anything with my system. it's still there (booted into recovery mode), but i'm not sure what to do next.
[01:15] <ranpha> losty81 time for wires
[01:15] <Losty81> yeah i wish
[01:15] <Andy-> cynical: iv installed it in the synaptic
[01:15] <Losty81> theres got to be a way
[01:15] <whazill> what is xorg.conf file in recovery mode ?
[01:15] <mopflite> tengil: convert -rotate 90 inputfile output file (to rotate an image clockwise by 90 degrees, saving the new image as outputfile)
[01:15] <OmegaNine> Losty81: You will need to get a dpk called "build-essential" and put that on your Windows partition too
[01:16] <mopflite> s/output file/outputfile
[01:16] <tengil> mopflite: yeah i see that as well. it just looks like i have to install the whole imagemagick to get the convert command
[01:16] <ranpha> losty81 there is .....you have to search the repostoires for ndiswrapper, write down the adres (in the rep. progam) and search manually
[01:16] <OmegaNine> Losty81: Then when you get in linux, install it, and do a "./configure" "make" "sudo make isntall"
[01:17] <mopflite> tengil: yes, I believe so
[01:17] <ranpha> Omeganine install you mean
[01:17] <mopflite> anthony@catfish:~/photos$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/convert
[01:17] <mopflite> imagemagick: /usr/bin/convert
[01:17] <OmegaNine> Eerrr fat finger :(
[01:17] <AsadR> everytime i try to delete a file i get a "permission denied" error, the file is owned by me and i've set it to chmod 777, what could be the issue?
[01:17] <OmegaNine> Losty81: Yeah that was "sudo make install" sorry
[01:17] <ranpha> Omeagnine sure blame it on the fat finger.....
[01:18] <AsadR> ?
[01:19] <ranpha> AsadR is the disk internal or external?
[01:19] <AsadR> internal disk, ext3 partition, just copied the data over from a vfat partition
[01:19] <Losty81> omega99
[01:19] <AsadR> if i su to root it deletes it fine, but as myself i can't delete it even though the owner/group is set to me
[01:20] <ranpha> AsadR do this sudo chown -R name:name * (name fill in your name)
[01:20] <ranpha> Asadr btw you need to be in the directory you want to change don't do this on the ROOT disk
[01:20] <Losty81> omeganine??? where can i find this build essential?
[01:21] <ranpha> losty81....euh...apt-get???....omeganine..fill in please
[01:22] <OmegaNine> Losty81: Give me a second, I used apt-get but you will not be able to
[01:22] <ranpha> Omeganine...how about downloading the everthing than post it on rapidshare so he can download it???
[01:23] <OmegaNine> ranpha: Would be happy too, where does apt-get put its downloaded dpks?
[01:23] <fooadd> OmegaNine, /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:23] <ranpha> Omeganine don't look at me i only using linux for 6 months....
[01:23] <Losty81> thanks guys?
[01:23] <Losty81> lol
[01:24] <Losty81> once i have net on linux i think i can get the hang of it
[01:24] <Losty81> brand new to it
[01:24] <AsadR> oops, sorry, silly me, issue was directory didn't have +w permission, thx ranpha
[01:24] <OmegaNine> Losty81: You use X86 right?
[01:24] <fooadd> Losty81, yeah give it sometime, it took me  3 weeks to get net on linux :P
[01:24] <fooadd> and it was worth it :D
[01:25] <Losty81> my brother is a computer programmer and he has been raving about linux for years
[01:25] <OmegaNine> Im still pissed I bought a lappy with ATI, still cant get xgl running :o\
[01:25] <Losty81> I have just been getting into computers pretty full on the last few months
[01:25] <OmegaNine> Losty81:  ^^
[01:25] <Losty81> yeah x86
[01:25] <Losty81> sorry
[01:25] <OmegaNine> Losty81:  NP
[01:25] <Losty81> so crowded in her
[01:25] <Losty81> e
[01:26] <OmegaNine> NP, you get used to it
[01:26] <fooadd> damn! this frostwire is great :D
[01:26] <ranpha> AsadR don't worry nothing can beat my stupid mistake form two days ago
[01:26] <fooadd> first time using it
[01:26] <RMorris84> Losty81, wheres ur brother when u need him lol
[01:26] <mcskiy> Hello all
[01:26] <OmegaNine> fooadd: limewire cloan?
[01:26] <mcskiy> I have a problem :( None of my flac files play in any application, they just skip and go "all screwy"
[01:26] <fooadd> OmegaNine, yup I guess so, but it feels faster, dunno why  :)
[01:26] <Losty81> different city
[01:27] <asm_Stucp> I have downloaded the ISO Image and when I boot with CD it always hang up at Mounting root file system... can someone help?
[01:27] <Losty81> and he aint answering my msgs at moment
[01:27] <OmegaNine> fooadd: Its the kernel :P
[01:27] <fooadd> OmegaNine, heh yeah maybe :P
[01:27] <Losty81> kubuntu?? asm-Stucp?
[01:27] <fooadd> mcskiy, what player? apt-get install flac123 (??)
[01:27] <asm_Stucp> No Ubuntu
[01:28] <mcskiy> fooadd, Installing now, thanks...
[01:28] <OmegaNine> Losty81: I am sending you a file....
[01:28] <Losty81> i have been having that problem with the kubuntu live cd.....thought it may be from corrupt iso
[01:28] <Losty81> ta
[01:28] <mcskiy> fooadd, Have tried kaffeine, xmms and oggenc.
[01:28] <mcskiy> oggenc used to be able to open FLAC files, but now cannot ;(
[01:28] <fooadd> mcskiy, what about mplayer? I don't have flac files to try though..
[01:28] <cozomo> hi I amhaving problmswwwith  mykeyboarrrd ihave to holddd downakey for 1.7 or so seconds fro it to input
[01:28] <mcskiy> fooadd, will try.
[01:29] <Losty81> omega the send failed
[01:29] <mcskiy> fooadd, flac123 works fine
[01:29] <fooadd> good to know that :)
[01:29] <ranpha> Losty81 installing linux goes like this, first you think WOW...then after 5 days of browsing forums you get frustatd and think screw linux back to windows....then you see windows....nope back to shitty linux .....then after like 4 weeks (note girlfriend walked away with another and seven computers where thorne out the window) linux runs like a dream and an whole new world goes open for you
[01:29] <redondo81> what's the command to unmount a partition please?
[01:29] <mcskiy> fooadd, mplayer works fine.
[01:29] <cynical> mcskiy: install gstreamer plugins for flac support
[01:30] <cynical> mcskiy: in apps like rhythmbox or xmms
[01:30] <Losty81> hahahahaha
[01:30] <Losty81> ahahahaa
[01:30] <Losty81> i like the part how the gf leaves
[01:30] <fooadd> redondo81, umount /dev/hdxx
[01:30] <fooadd> mcskiy, mplayer rocks :)
[01:30] <lavi> hi , which package named same as gnome-libs-devel?
[01:30] <cynical> ranpha: lol
[01:30] <redondo81> ok, thanks
[01:30] <azathoth> how can i force anti-aliasing with nvidia cards?
[01:31] <ranpha> losty81 but when you discover the a sync program takes 5 houres for 300 gig on windows and only 5 sec to sync in linux you know what to pick .....
[01:31] <cynical> ranpha: same with me pretty much (minus the girlfriend part)
[01:31] <fooadd> lavi, apt-cache search gnome libs devel | less
[01:32] <Losty81> yeah i can see some definite pros
[01:32] <fooadd> lavi, or change the keywords "gnome "lib" ..etc..
[01:32] <ranpha> Cynical what i forgot is the broken keyboard......that happend for real......bits flying everywhere.....:-)
[01:32] <Losty81> like being able to uninstall drivers without rebooting
[01:32] <cynical> ranpha: rofl
[01:33] <lavi> fooadd, I 've used gnome-lib, it only return gnome-libs-data, however ,it isnot
[01:33] <fooadd> lavi, which package do you need?
[01:33] <ranpha> and i cursed linux why it didden't have simple install program like setup in widnows.....then i discoverd apt-get :-)
[01:33] <jrib> lavi: libgnome2-dev ?
[01:33] <lavi> fooadd, I've installed it,
[01:33] <lavi> fooadd, but it is not.
[01:34] <lavi> fooadd, I compiled bonobo ,it tells me to ensure the gnomeconf.sh file exists, but I could find it
[01:34] <fooadd> lavi, why not use apt to fetch the deps? or are you compiling from source?
[01:34] <lavi> fooadd, ya, I compile from source
[01:34] <infidel> how can i sink my evolution contacts with my cell phone?
[01:34] <fooadd> aha, I see, apt-get install apt-file, and then use "apt-file search gnomeconf.sh" to see which package has it (??)
[01:35] <ranpha> oh yeah and one thing.....winblows screwed up a partion everthing gone.......searched houres for a program for windows...discoverd linux had one..within 1 minute partion was back....
[01:35] <OmegaNine> ranpha: Whats the util you used?
[01:35] <fooadd> lavi, why compile from source? isn't bonobo apt-get'able?
[01:36] <ranpha> Omeganine...it was in apt....don't know anymmore give me a sec
[01:36] <lavi> fooadd, ha, I know , but I wanna compile:)
[01:36] <OmegaNine> ranpha: Cool
[01:36] <lavi> fooadd, 'apt-file search gnomeconf.sh' ??
[01:36] <fooadd> lavi, then hmmm use apt-file as I suggested , and good luck :)
[01:36] <fooadd> lavi, first apt-file update, the search :)
[01:37] <lavi> fooadd, you mean apt-file is a command?
[01:37] <fooadd> apt-file is a program, yeah a command
[01:37] <ranpha> HAHAHA...offcourse what a name...Omeganine it's called testdisk
[01:37] <kOpter> Yello :) How can I get the size of a directory using bash?
[01:37] <fooadd> apt-cache show apt-file, and see for yourself ;)
[01:37] <fooadd> kOpter, du -sh /home/foo
[01:38] <OmegaNine> ranpha: My buddy just spend like 75 bucks because of the same thing, cant wait to tell him thisl.
[01:38] <kOpter> fooadd > That was easy :)
[01:38] <ranpha> Omeganine HAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA it can restore partion of all formats....
[01:38] <mabus> How can I alias "cat file | more"
[01:38] <OmegaNine> ranpha: He is going to crap his pants :P *quickly typs up an e-mail*
[01:39] <lavi> fooadd, some websites tell me the gnomeConf.sh get from gnome-libs-devel , but I could find any relative package in ubuntu. and I dont get your idea for apt-file
[01:39] <ranpha> Omeganine tell him about boot disk...they have similair programs )all linux based)
[01:39] <jrib> mabus: why not just do 'more file' ?
[01:40] <fooadd> lavi,  I see, honestly I have no idea... the thing is this gnome-libs-devel could be named something different ... so better check the website again, or ask on #debian (??)
[01:40] <lavi> fooadd, k, tnx anyway.
[01:41] <tomplast> Hi everyone, is there anyone who believes in the idea of promoting Ubuntu through a game? I have had a an idea for a while of such a thing (my programming skills is limited and so is my time) and I woud like to know if there is someone who may be interested?
[01:41] <fooadd> lavi, apt-file tells which package has a file, apt-file search convert could give you "imagemagick" for example, get it ?
[01:41] <fooadd> since "convert" is part of imagemagick
[01:42] <lavi> fooadd, in my os, there isnot apt-file command.
[01:42] <fooadd> lavi, that's why I told you to apt-get install it ;)
[01:42] <lavi> fooadd, cool :) tnx
[01:42] <fooadd> or compile it from source, you compile-from-source freak heh :P
[01:44] <lavi> fooadd, I did `apt-file search gnomeCon.sh`, however, it returns nothing
[01:44] <fooadd> maybe try "gnomecon.sh" without the capital "c" (??)
[01:45] <fooadd> lavi,  or search packages.ubuntu.com for it
[01:45] <lavi> fooadd, k
[01:45] <muhammad> lavi try apt-cache search xxxxx
[01:45] <fooadd> lavi, you did "apt-file update" first?
[01:45] <lavi> fooadd, wow. not yet
[01:45] <fooadd> muhammad, he wants to know which package has the "gnomecon.sh" file
 aha thougt hes serachin abt that package
[01:46] <muhammad> thought*
[01:46] <beerockxs> my LC_ALL environment setting is emtpy, how do i fix that?
[01:47] <fooadd> beerockxs, export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 , for example
[01:47] <beerockxs> fooadd: will I have to do that again after every reboot?
[01:47] <fooadd> beerockxs, add it to your .profile or .bashrc , or /etc/profile for system-wide use ;)
[01:47] <mabus> jrib: because I didn't know more worked like that ... :/ thanks
[01:48] <lavi> fooadd, tnx a ton. I did the `apt-file update` and `apt-file search gnomeCon.sh`, it returns libgnome-dev. however, I 've installed libgnome2-dev. Do I need install libgnome-dev still?
[01:48] <zzyber> does ubuntu have a package i can install for compile my own software. I dont want to install all neccessary applications one by one.
[01:48] <muhammad> !build-essential
[01:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:48] <ElvenProgrammer> my ubuntu installation can't install 3 packages and apt-get dist-upgrade as suggested doesn't fix it
[01:48] <beerockxs> zzyber: build-essentials
[01:49] <fooadd> lavi, then apt-get install libgnome-dev
[01:49] <zzyber> thanks
[01:49] <lavi> fooadd, I meant I 've installed libgnome2-dev
[01:49] <lavi> fooadd, Do I need to still ?
[01:51] <beerockxs> lavi: I think so
[01:51] <lavi> beerockxs, :) tnx
[01:53] <infidel> i have a question about openoffice, my spell check is not working. i know that is not a question, but how do i fix it is. hehe
[01:53] <rambo3> how do i start gconf from terminal
[01:53] <moldy> hi
[01:54] <moldy> where is the samba password file stored in ubuntu?
[01:54] <muhammad> !samba
[01:54] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:54] <jrib> rambo3: is gconf-editor what you want?
[01:54] <jrib> infidel: what language?
[01:55] <infidel> jrib, english
[01:55] <moldy> muhammad: the server guide does not mention where the password file is stored as far as i see
[01:56] <jrib> infidel: from england?
[01:56] <infidel> jrib, us
[01:56] <jrib> infidel: do you have myspell-en-us installed?
[01:56] <infidel> jrib, yes
[01:57] <muhammad> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba  moldy try this
[01:57] <moldy> muhammad: thanks
[01:58] <ElvenProgrammer> how do i update gnome-cups-manager?
[01:58] <jrib> infidel: ok in oowriter, in tools > options > language settings > languages > default language for documents > western, is English (USA) selected and is there a checkmark with the letters "ABC" next to it?
[01:58] <moldy> muhammad: arghs, seems to be down here :(
[01:58] <OmegaNine> They need to start making GMD's that are in widescreen
[01:58] <infidel> jrib, let me check
[01:58] <muhammad> moldy hmm
[01:59] <moldy> now it loads, although very slowly
[01:59] <rainer_work> Good afternoon, world. I am looking for Svan Jaborek. Is this the correct channel?
 lol may b its ur connection
[01:59] <muhammad> its workin fine here
[01:59] <infidel> jrib, no it was set to aussie land
[02:00] <moldy> muhammad: are you sure that the location of the passwd file is mentioned in that document?
[02:00] <jrib> infidel: should work if you change it to USA
[02:00] <moldy> muhammad: i don
[02:00] <moldy> arghs shitty keyboard
[02:00] <muhammad> moldy i think cause that document have all the info abt Samba !
[02:00] <infidel> jrib, thank you it does work now
[02:00] <jrib> infidel: np
[02:01] <Luna-Tick> If you are looking for a really easy way to really help Ubuntu, join the popularity contest. This sends the packages you use to the Ubuntu developers so that they can put the popular ones on the CDs, give them priority when fixing bugs etc. For details on how to configure popcon, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPopularityContest - we need lots of users, especially "normal" users, before it is any use!
[02:01] <moldy> muhammad: i don't need generic instructions on how to setup samba. i want to copy a samba passwd database from a non-ubuntu system into an ubuntu one and i don't know where to copy it to
[02:01] <Armopu> hi all
 aha
 thats what i know btw ;-)
[02:02] <moldy> muhammad: i think i found it, by straceing smbpasswd
 gr8 hope it does work
[02:03] <FTMichael> Is the xserver-xorg-core update safe to install now?
[02:04] <Armopu> anybody knows how to impede to dhcp modifying /etc/resolv.conf ???
[02:04] <Ych> stupid completely unrelated question, but whats the command to give someone ops?
[02:04] <W_McL> Armopu: remove the package resolvconf
[02:04] <Ych> in IRC
[02:04] <muhammad> lol
[02:05] <muhammad> type /mode #channel +o nick i think
[02:05] <Ych> thankyou
[02:05] <njan> Ych, most clients have it aliased to /op too
[02:05] <W_McL> Ych type /help it might help you ;)
[02:05] <njan> /op, /deop, /kick, /kickban, etc
[02:06] <tuxtux> ciao
[02:06] <muhammad> moldy i think found what u want try sudo  smbpasswd -a username
[02:08] <scheuri> hi all
[02:09] <Losty81> hi
[02:10] <krikke> hi
[02:11] <krikke> i have some problems with partitioning
[02:11] <krikke> I currently have 3 partitions, the 3rd is a fat32 which I want to resize to 5gb instead of 15gb, so I can install ubuntu on the other 10gb
[02:12] <OmegaNine> Does kubuntu barrow from ubuntu?  I like KDE, but Ubuntu is so well thought out, i dont wannt jump ship.
 sure u can
[02:12] <W_McL> OmegaNine: kubuntu = ubuntu with kde as default gui
[02:12] <OmegaNine> Sweet
[02:13] <rizo> hi ppl
[02:13] <Losty81> hej omeganine
[02:13] <W_McL> OmegaNine: and xubuntu = ubuntu with xfce as default gui
[02:13] <Losty81> no luck i need to have gcc and make and a heap of other packages installed
[02:13] <OmegaNine> Hye Losty81, how did it go?
[02:13] <Losty81> had dependency errors
[02:13] <krikke> I currently have 3 partitions, the 3rd is a fat32 which I want to resize to 5gb instead of 15gb, so I can install ubuntu on the other 10gb
[02:13] <krikke> ow
[02:13] <krikke> sorry
[02:13] <W_McL> OmegaNine: it's just a matter of the gui installed by default
[02:13] <krikke> http://users.telenet.be/djkrikke/pm.png
[02:13] <krikke> this is the problem
[02:14] <rizo> how can i start a process from terminal. I need the command to launch a process such as cupsys and then close it when the task is done?
[02:14] <OmegaNine> So i guess I could just DL and install KDE and pretend there is a K not a B :P
[02:14] <_knoppix> hey guys. when I try to install I get a hell lot of messages saying "[numbers] Buffer I/O error on device dm-1, logical block numbers)"... I guess theres something wrong with at hd, but what do I do about it??
[02:14] <AsadR> how do i enable the Sun Java JRE i just installed?
[02:14] <jrib> OmegaNine: you just need to install the kubuntu-desktop package and you will have kubuntu
[02:15] <jrib> !multijava > AsadR
[02:15] <J_P> hi all
[02:15] <muhammad> !java
[02:15] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:15] <Armopu> W_McL: i don't have this package
[02:15] <rizo> how can i start a process from terminal. I need the command to launch a process such as cupsys and then close it when the task is done?
[02:15] <rizo> please
[02:15] <OmegaNine> Losty81: Give me one sec
[02:15] <Armopu> i remember there was an option i some confguration file to disable it
[02:15] <KillerX> I added "1600x1080
[02:15] <KillerX> to my xorg.conf
[02:15] <Armopu> but i can't remember the file
[02:16] <gyro54> is it easy to access files from an old hard drive with an old version of ubuntu. It is connected via a usb external drive.
[02:16] <KillerX> But I still can't change my resolution to that
[02:16] <KillerX> Anyone know why?
[02:16] <muhammad> !xorg
[02:16] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:16] <RMorris84> killerx, ur video driver prolly doesnt support it then
[02:16] <FTMichael> Is the xserver-xorg-core update for Dapper safe to install now?
[02:16] <KillerX> RMorris84: I'm sure it does, it's a Macbook Pro ;)
[02:17] <muhammad> follow that link  up KillerX then
[02:17] <Shoop> Hey all. What would be the easiest way to set up a wireless connection on ubuntu without any internet connection before hand?
[02:17] <W_McL> Armopu: then /etc/resolv.conf should be static
[02:17] <due> "Unable to cd to "/home/<user>"". :\
[02:17] <mr_smeegal> anyone have any success running xgl using an intel 915 card
[02:17] <gribling> when I try to install UBUNTU I get a hell lot of messages saying "[numbers] Buffer I/O error on device dm-1, logical block numbers)"... I guess theres something wrong with at hd, but what do I do about it??
[02:17] <muhammad> !wireless
[02:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:17] <gribling> plxz help?
[02:17] <infidel> how come i can't play simple wav files?
[02:17] <gribling> cant find anything on google
[02:17] <KillerX> muhammad: Looking, thanks :)
 yvw :>
[02:18] <muhammad> !formats
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <mr_smeegal> !xgl
[02:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:18] <muhammad> infidel u need to install mplayer
[02:18] <muhammad> infidel sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:18] <crCernier> Hi
[02:19] <infidel> muhammad, thanks
[02:19] <muhammad> infidel np
[02:19] <crCernier> I need to buy a new laptop, but I want to be sure that it's well recognized on Linux (I manage to install Ubuntu on it)...
[02:20] <muhammad> !laptop
[02:20] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:20] <FTMichael> !xserver
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <FTMichael> !updates
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <Losty81> hej can anyone give me a link to download gcc make libc6-dev etc?  I need to save on my xp partition so I can build ndsiswrapper and get net working under ubuntu
[02:20] <muhammad> losty81
[02:20] <infidel> muhammad, i guess they don't have an amd64 version of mplayer i got back Package mplayer is not available,
[02:21] <muhammad> !build-essential
[02:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:21] <Losty81> !build-essential
[02:21] <jrib> Losty81: install build-essential
[02:21] <Losty81> yeah i tried
[02:21] <muhammad> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:21] <jrib> Losty81: what happened?
[02:21] <Losty81> but i have dependency errors
[02:21] <muhammad> !restirctedformats
[02:21] <_w^x_> does anyone know where I can find an am/fm tuner for linux
[02:21] <Losty81> says need make
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restirctedformats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <Losty81> g++
[02:21] <Losty81> atc
[02:21] <Losty81> etc
[02:21] <muhammad> !restrictedformats
[02:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:22] <jrib> Losty81: you don't have internet access on ubuntu right now?
[02:22] <Losty81> no
[02:22] <RMorris84> muhammad whats up with all the commands dude
[02:22] <Losty81> im on xp/ubuntu dual boot wireless on xp....no wired net
[02:22] <Losty81> cant get net working under ubuntu
[02:22] <muhammad> infidel read this document then ;-)
[02:22] <Losty81> need to be able to make ndiswrap
[02:22] <jrib> Losty81: build-essnetial is on the cd, is it in your repository list?
[02:22] <infidel> muhammad, ok thanks
[02:23] <Losty81> ok ill take another look
[02:23] <muhammad> RMorris84 excuse me ?
[02:23] <Losty81> sick of rebooting!
[02:23] <RMorris84> all the ! stuff....
[02:23] <AsadR> i get a lot of errors when i try to switch to Sun's JRE (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22038)
[02:23] <AsadR> using update-java-alternatives
[02:24] <z3r0x> does anybody know a ftp client which I can chmod recursively?
 try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:24] <operative> part
[02:25] <jrib> AsadR: the command seems to have worked, it just says you don't hava the jdk
[02:25] <muhammad> or  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[02:25] <KillerX> Okay, another small problem
[02:25] <jrib> AsadR: try 'java -version' to check
[02:25] <digitalhav0c> were at things like amarok, xmms  stored
[02:25] <KillerX> My bootsplash screen doesn't come anymore
[02:25] <digitalhav0c> /usr/....
[02:25] <KillerX> All I get is a plain grey screen instead of the Ubuntu loading screen
[02:25] <AsadR> jrib: java -version shows the Sun's JRE version 1.5.0, but the other commands like appletviewer don't work
 u did startx ?
[02:26] <W_McL> jrib: then you need to install sun-java5-jdk
[02:26] <salvatore_> hy
[02:26] <jrib> AsadR: what W_McL said :)
[02:26] <KillerX> muhammed: Yes, the resolution thing is fixed
[02:26] <AsadR> k, thx W_McL, jrib
[02:26] <salvatore_> i have the big dick
[02:26] <KillerX> I am talking about the boot screen that you get when the system starts
[02:26] <app> How I can prevent mIRC from beeping at new messages, while scrolling back in window?
 aha
[02:27] <KillerX> (this problem is unrelated to the screen res. problem)
[02:27] <W_McL> AsadR: aptitude search is your friend ;)
[02:27] <AsadR> i need the JDK for viewing java applets in my browser as well? i would have thought the JRE was enough
[02:27] <jrib> AsadR: you need sun-java5-plugin for that I believe
[02:28] <W_McL> AsadR: sun-java5-plugin
[02:28] <AsadR> ok, thx again :)
 i think sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin will do what u want to view ;)
[02:29] <AsadR> k, thx muhammad
[02:29] <muhammad> and if u want to install jdk only try this sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[02:29] <manux> Hi! When I try to compile the kernel I get this error: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[02:29] <Cenix_> install bin-utils
[02:30] <Cenix_> or is that binutils
[02:30] <Cenix_> it contains gcc
[02:30] <jrib> manux: install gcc-3.4
 u need the build-essential package
[02:30] <Cenix_> yeah "apt-get install binutils"
[02:30] <Cenix_> woops, yeah
[02:30] <manux> I've got the last version of gcc
 sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:30] <AsadR> which package provides the "strings" command as well?
[02:31] <jrib> AsadR: binutils, which gets pulled in by build-essential
[02:31] <manux> I've just installed buld-essential (the last version)
[02:31] <AsadR> binutils also gives me make/gcc/ld/objdump/readelf/etc..?
[02:31] <jrib> AsadR: install build-essential
[02:32] <schrimp> hey
[02:32] <jrib> manux: gcc-3.4 won't get installed with build-essential, it is a seperate package
[02:33] <schrimp> could anybody pls help me with my firefox-download-problem? :)
[02:33] <manux> jrib: ok
[02:33] <nosse> schrimp: firefox for ubuntu?
[02:33] <schrimp> nosse  yip
[02:33] <nosse> it should be already there
[02:34] <manux> jrib: I'm installing gcc-3.4
[02:34] <nosse> lost it?
[02:34] <schrimp> yeah
[02:34] <schrimp> it is ther e:)
[02:34] <nosse> working?
[02:34] <schrimp> but not all downloads within firfox do work
[02:34] <nosse> ok
[02:34] <schrimp> the DL-dialogue opens, i click "save to disk" ... the window dissappears and nothing gets downloaded
[02:35] <schrimp> theres only a file of 0byte in my dl folder
[02:35] <digitalhav0c> what is the path for xmms
[02:35] <Da_Putzler> hi folks...
[02:35] <nosse> schrimp: sorry, I'm noob using Opera
[02:35] <schrimp> it mainly appears when using redirected DL-links
[02:35] <jrib> digitalhav0c: type 'which xmms' in a terminal
[02:35] <schrimp> ahkay hehe
[02:35] <Da_Putzler> What's the best (and smallest) music player for Ubuntu ???
[02:35] <OmegaNine> XMMS
[02:36] <schrimp> think thats what i'm also gonna do :)
[02:36] <Da_Putzler> is Beep the same as XMMS ?
[02:36] <jrib> Da_Putzler: probably xmms, beep looks nicer
[02:36] <digitalhav0c> thanks jrib
[02:36] <nosse> schrimp: good luck, I had some trouble with the install
[02:36] <OmegaNine> ...i dont think so....
[02:36] <Da_Putzler> cause I got beep running and it seems to take up a lot of cpu time when playing music... everything slows down when it plays
[02:36] <MrFatJack> I added xgl for my 6.06 and it seems to prevent me from typing in gnome-panel applets like dictionary or deskbar. Any thoughts?
[02:37] <schrimp> nosse  will try my best :)
[02:37] <nosse> schrimp: oh, and you should get opera downloaded firts
[02:37] <schrimp> lol true :D
[02:37] <nosse> :D
[02:37] <schrimp> isnt it in synaptic?
[02:37] <nosse> I guess
[02:37] <jrib> Da_Putzler: well there are cli players available if you want to be really light
[02:37] <soujirou7> How do you get a live copy of Ubuntu to recognize the hard disk?
[02:37] <Da_Putzler> jrib: sounds good, any u recommend ?
[02:38] <schrimp> so i'm out! bye
[02:38] <fyrestrtr> MrFatJack: disable xgl then.
[02:39] <fyrestrtr> soujirou7: system > administration > disks
[02:39] <Phreakys> do you got window decoration mr?
[02:39] <mr_smeegal> followed wiki it is slow as can be
[02:39] <raymond__> hi! what's our topic for today
[02:39] <Phreakys> no effects on compiz?
[02:39] <mr_smeegal> compiz wont run
[02:40] <mr_smeegal> how do i check if 3d is enabled for my card?
[02:40] <raymond__> what's compiz?
[02:40] <jrib> Da_Putzler: hmm I don't really use any in the same way I use things like beep.  mpg321 is the only one I have used.  There are bound to be better ones I don't know about though
[02:40] <Da_Putzler> thx jrib
[02:40] <Da_Putzler> any Ubuntu developers in the room today ?
[02:40] <MrFatJack> fyrestrtr: I was looking for a different work around. I'll check on the ubuntu-xgl channel.
[02:40] <manux> thanks to all
[02:41] <raymond__> How can we recover data from CD that has CRC error
[02:41] <raymond__> can anyone help
[02:41] <Phreakys> xgl + kubuntu is not exactly a walk in the park
[02:42] <jrib> Da_Putzler: I remember someone really liked mpd in here as well
[02:42] <Da_Putzler> Is their an easy way to change screensaver settings in Ubuntu without installing xscreensaver ???
[02:43] <Cenix_> Da_Putzler, Like, in the screensaver menu?
[02:43] <Cenix_> under system
[02:43] <Cenix_> oh, change the settings
[02:43] <Cenix_> nevermind
[02:44] <Da_Putzler> Cenix: I mean getting access to the advanced settings that Gnome seems to have dropped... like changing separate screensaver settings and options etc.
[02:44] <Cenix_> there should be some config files some place you could edit without having xscreensaver installed
[02:44] <W_McL>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[02:45] <Cenix_> look at ~/.xscreensaver
[02:45] <Cenix_> you may specify the args there
[02:45] <Da_Putzler> it seems silly that Ubuntu dropped xscreensaver which worked so well for a Gnome alternative that's really cut-back...  they should go back
[02:46] <Cenix_> oh well, submit a bug report and describe the problem :)
[02:46] <Cenix_> that's the way to get things discussed
[02:46] <Cenix_> I have to go
[02:48] <J_P> hey all, I have RAID 1, using two HDs. But I remove one that HD and boot with de first.. after I halt system and add that HD, but system no recognize more that second HD in RAID, I think when I start only one HD system get out from RAID that second. Question is: how I add that HD in RAID 1 agaim ?
[02:48] <Da_Putzler> are their any tweaks available to speed up Gnome/Ubuntu ???
[02:48] <digitalhav0c> uninstall
[02:49] <longwave> Da_Putzler: what is slow for you? the easiest way to speed up ubuntu is usually buy more ram (unless you already have 1gb or more)
[02:49] <Da_Putzler> more ram ??? is it that resource hungry ???
[02:49] <longwave> Da_Putzler: no, but more ram means more disk cache which means less reading from disk and more speed, usually!
[02:49] <soujirou7> fyrestrtr: What do you do after you get to system > Disks?
[02:51] <MalMen> hello
[02:51] <infidel> is there a way to sync my contacts to my phone?
[02:51] <infidel> cell phone that is
[02:51] <MalMen> some times i am forced to restart the system because no sound
[02:51] <MalMen> how can i fic the sound with out restart ?
[02:51] <Da_Putzler> hmm...
[02:52] <Miles-> Hi there
[02:52] <J_P> anyone could help me with RAID ?
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> infidel: which mopile pnone are you trying to use in ubunut
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> *ubuntu
[02:53] <infidel> Paddy_EIRE, it's a sharp vodaphone via ir
[02:54] <KillerX> !x
[02:54] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:55] <MalMen> !sound
[02:55] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:55] <RMorris84> compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0 compiz.real: No manageable screens found on display :0.0 anybody ever seen this error before?
[02:56] <twocat> ubuntu detects my wireless card just fine, but when I click "activate" the config works for a minute and then says "activated" ... when I restart the config it is "not activated" ... how do I activate my wireless? ... I've looked around and havn't found anything...I'm about to use ndiswrapper...but I would rather use ubuntu's config
[02:56] <Miles-> I'd need help, I'd trying to create a shell script using gstreamer-lame to batch/re-encode some MP3 (160k CBR to 64k CBR conversion)
[02:57] <Miles-> No clue on how to handle that
[02:57] <gnomefreak> RMorris84: #ubuntu-xgl might beable to help more but do you have server-xgl installed?
[02:57] <RMorris84> im in there with everyone right now but nobody seemed to know
[02:58] <RMorris84> so i figured since theres u know 740 more people in here than there i would at least ask
[02:59] <ubuntu> Can i install ubuntu on another ubuntu-install without removing everything in /home/?
[03:00] <WARlrus> Hi :) I've just got Ubuntu working on an old machine, and was wondering if it's possible to connect it up to my main computer, which connects to the internet wireless-ly
[03:00] <WARlrus> I've networked the 2 using a network cable, but need to know how to share the internet
[03:00] <mike-digiport-> im having problems starting up a server, its telling me that it cannot open the .log file
[03:00] <MalMen> WARlrus, iptables
[03:00] <Rookie-> a NAT solution maybe ... ? build your own router ...
[03:00] <mike-digiport-> that is specified in the .conf, and the file is there
[03:00] <WARlrus> my main computer runs windows XP, and the Linux machine is Ubuntu 6.06
[03:01] <W_McL> ubuntu: do you have your /home on a separate partition?
[03:01] <WARlrus> I also have a USB network adaptor (belkin) but don't know if that will work on Linux
[03:01] <ubuntu> W_McL: nope
[03:01] <mike-digiport-> ?
[03:02] <Rookie-> everything works in linux, question is how to make it functional ;)
[03:02] <W_McL> ubuntu: then it might be difficult
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> RMorris84: are you using nvidia's drivers?
[03:02] <WARlrus> well how can I make the USB network adaptor functional then?
[03:02] <W_McL> ubuntu: remember to make a separate partition for your home the next time
[03:02] <RMorris84> fyrestrtr: intel i810 driver
[03:03] <fooadd>  /j #arabeyes
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> RMorris84: you should use aiglx
[03:03] <fooadd>  /join #arabeyes
[03:03] <cr3> can I run apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade repeatedly? once I have upgraded, will running these commands again change anything?
[03:03] <RMorris84> i think i am
[03:03] <Rookie-> WARlrus - first, connect it and reboot, look in the file dmesg what the system defines it at ... after that check for modules ... check if the module is loaded - if not, check what modules it requires
[03:03] <RMorris84> i followed the tutorial from the ubuntu-xgl page
[03:03] <RMorris84> i mean room
[03:04] <WARlrus> okay, I've connected it and I'll try rebooting now
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> cr3: no, you need to run apt-get update first to fetch any updates, then apt-get upgrade to check for upgrades.
[03:04] <WARlrus> I'm a bit of a n00b btw - you may have guessed ;) this is my first Linux installation
[03:04] <Rookie-> hehe ... good way to learn ;)
[03:04] <Rookie-> i was a noob for 7 years ago ...
[03:04] <YogSothoth> Hi
[03:05] <Rookie-> ok - 810 ppl, say hi to YogSothoth
[03:05] <infidel> if i want to install lame how can i do a apt-get?
[03:05] <fooadd> infidel, sudo apt-get install lame
[03:05] <Rookie-> sudo apt-get install *pkgname*
[03:05] <RMorris84> Hi yogsothoth
[03:06] <YogSothoth> I just installed Ubuntu on my new laptop. My Wi-Fi card is installed using ndiswrapper. But I can only reach IP addresses: it seems that it does not reverse using DNS. Why?
[03:06] <Rookie-> i need a beer ... afk
[03:07] <god__> Hey!
[03:07] <infidel>  Package lame has no installation candidate
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> YogSothoth: something is wrong with you /etc/resovl.conf
[03:07] <god__> anyone able to help me with installing php-gtk? :] 
[03:07] <fooadd> infidel, do you have the right repositories URI's in /etc/apt/sources.list??
[03:08] <infidel> fooadd, it may be because i'm amd64?
[03:08] <earthian> hello
[03:08] <earthian> :)
[03:08] <fooadd> god__, php-gtk AFAIK isn't in ubuntu ( I could be wrong though), I installed it from cvs
[03:08] <infidel> fooadd, which repo do i need?
[03:08] <fyrestrtr> !info php-gtk
[03:08] <god__> could you help me with installing via cvs? i keep getting an error on make
[03:08] <ubotu> Package php-gtk does not exist in any distro I know
[03:08] <fooadd> god__, just a sec
[03:08] <agib> does anyone have experience installing ubuntu with RAID 1?
[03:08] <god__> k :] 
[03:08] <YogSothoth> fyrestrtr, thank you. How can I fix my /etc/resovl.conf ?
[03:09] <YogSothoth> fyrestrtr, it is empty
[03:09] <YogSothoth> fyrestrtr, is that normal?
[03:09] <Robin> hello everyone !
[03:09] <earthian> i have bought brand new 2 hard drives and made RAID 0 array. However ubuntu setup offers me to choose where i want to install ubuntu. It sees the hard drives as 2x 250GB indentical ones. I have 2x 250GB drives that are in array and should be like one 500GB ??? any idea what to do?
[03:10] <jhasse> I have Problems with Sound (nforce2). on the nvidia site is only a SuSE and Fedora driver. How can i get it work with ubuntu?
[03:10] <fyrestrtr> YogSothoth: I made a mistake, its /etc/resolv.conf
[03:10] <erUSUL> !raid
[03:10] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:10] <fyrestrtr> YogSothoth: this file lists your dns servers
[03:10] <YogSothoth> fyrestrtr, it's ok!
[03:10] <fooadd>  god__ http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=php-gtk&submit=Submit+Query&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all    <-- I used this
[03:10] <erUSUL> !raid > earthian
[03:10] <fooadd> god__, search apt-get.org for amd64 pkgs
[03:10] <god__> thanks
[03:10] <fyrestrtr> YogSothoth: if its empty, it means your computer cannot resolve domain names to ip addresses.
[03:10] <YogSothoth> fyrestrtr, I recopied the content from the current Ubuntu box I use and it worked
[03:11] <ranpha> he guys i serached the whole forum but i can't find anything about dual network use...can somebody help me with this?
[03:11] <elvirolo> hi all
[03:11] <fooadd> god__, but if you want PHP-GTK 2  install via cvs :)
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> ranpha: ask a question?
[03:11] <YogSothoth> fyrestrtr, I don't understand why this file was not automatically filled. I've installed Ubuntu multiple times and it's the first time it happens
[03:12] <earthian> i have bought brand new 2 hard drives and made RAID 0 array. However ubuntu setup offers me to choose where i want to install ubuntu. It sees the hard drives as 2x 250GB indentical ones. I have 2x 250GB drives that are in array and should be like one 500GB ??? any idea what to do?
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> YogSothoth: it normally gets filled via DHCP. If you don't have DHCP, you have to manually specify your dns servers.
[03:12] <elvirolo> i'm using dapper with a french keyboard, and my shift and F1, F2, etc. keys don't work
[03:12] <earthian> :o
[03:12] <ranpha> fyrestrtr ...did i asked a question??????
[03:12] <Robin> Can someone help me ?. I get ubuntu working on 1 computer . but not on the other 2 they both stop at ""mouting root file system"" . Im running the live cd .
[03:13] <fyrestrtr> ranpha: no you didn't, which is why I am telling you, ask a question.
[03:13] <fyrestrtr> !anybody
[03:13] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:13] <fooadd> Robin, could it be faulty hardware (??)
[03:13] <jhasse> How can i add a menu to the loginscreen where i can selected a username, so i don't have to type the name?? (I don't want a menu with the full names, just with the usernames)
[03:13] <manux> why when I compile the kernel I get some messages of this kind: restore_flags is deprecated
[03:13] <manux> ?
[03:13] <Robin> i computer crashes the other says apci failed
[03:14] <ranpha> he guys i serached the whole forum but i can't find anything about dual network use...can somebody help me with this? <--- question mark means it's a question. Can somebody help me to setup a two network cards on one ubuntu computer
[03:14] <fyrestrtr> jhasse: system > administration > login window
[03:14] <Robin> one
[03:14] <ShoeUnited> !processes
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <ShoeUnited> !process
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <fooadd> Robin, isn't there some boot option to switch this apci on/off?? (no livecd to try ..)
[03:14] <ShoeUnited> !resources
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resources - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <ShoeUnited> :/
[03:14] <RMorris84> !windows
[03:14] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:14] <RMorris84> ha ha ha
[03:14] <jhasse> fyrestrtr: I know, but no loginscreen has a list with the usernames
[03:14] <ShoeUnited> How do I check what processes the system is running?
[03:14] <manux> ps -aux
[03:14] <fooadd> ShoeUnited,  ps aux | less
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> jhasse: you need to enable the face browser.
[03:15] <ShoeUnited> okeydoke, and to kill the process if i don't want it running?
[03:15] <RMorris84> shoe.. top
[03:15] <erUSUL> ranpha: what is exactly the problem?
[03:15] <fooadd> ShoeUnited, kill -9 process_id
[03:15] <Linuturk_code> ShoeUnited, are you running gnome?
[03:15] <W_McL> ShoeUnited: ps -ef
[03:15] <tn3270> ShoeUnited : kill -SIGNUMBER <process>
[03:15] <ShoeUnited> I'm running gnome yes.
[03:15] <moldy> hi
[03:15] <Robin> the computer just freezes when "mouting root file system", no errors . Is this a commen problem ?
[03:15] <Robin> hi
[03:15] <moldy> ubuntu has an "admin" group by default, right?
[03:15] <Linuturk_code> ShoeUnited, System > Administration > System Monitor
[03:16] <ranpha> erUSUL : not a problem more i like to know how to use a wired network and a wirless network together on 1 computer.
[03:16] <bintut> hello..
[03:16] <bintut> what is the ubuntu alternate?
[03:16] <jhasse> fyrestrtr: i will try, thx
[03:16] <ShoeUnited> ah "teh gui" lol  ty ^_^
[03:16] <fooadd> bintut, alternate?
[03:16] <bintut> yes
[03:16] <Linuturk_code> ShoeUnited, yes, the gui ;p
[03:16] <manux> I've got some warnings in kernel compiling. Is is normal?
[03:16] <moldy> manux: yes
[03:16] <elvirolo> any ideas about my problem ?
[03:16] <ShoeUnited> I wrote teh on purpose.  lol ^_
[03:16] <RMorris84> ubuntu did u ever get an answer on that?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> bintut: what do you mean by alternate
[03:17] <fooadd> manux, if it says "deprecated" then it's deprecated, live with it :P
[03:17] <bintut> fooadd: there are 3 types of ubuntu lts and these are: desktop, server and alternate
[03:17] <jhasse> fyrestrtr: ok, logs good. Thank you
[03:17] <bintut> gnomefreak: there are 3 types of ubuntu lts and these are: desktop, server and alternate
[03:17] <erUSUL> ranpha: wha t do you want to do? a router? a bridge? firewalling?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> bintut: alternative is the texr based installer
[03:17] <jhasse> fyrestrtr: logs = looks, sry
[03:17] <gnomefreak> bintut: the desktop is graphical installer
[03:18] <manux> ok, thanks. Sorry for my questions but it's my first kernel copiling
[03:18] <YogSothoth> fyrestrtr, okay this is it: i deactivated dhcp to specify my own ip address. I should have done a dhcp first!
[03:18] <kintaro0e> hi all..is there a wiki/tutorial help on make a webserver on ubuntu?
[03:18] <jman8888> Does anybody know where a good quality ubuntu logo is? Im about to burn a linux cd and im gonna print some labels. (I tried google but found a lot of things that arent exactly ubuntu)
[03:18] <ranpha> erusul. for the wired network secure acces to my private network. Wirless connection to internet
[03:18] <YogSothoth> fyrestrtr, thank you
[03:18] <kintaro0e> i'm planning to build up a webserver where our company's site will be up on a ubunutu server OS
[03:18] <ShoeUnited> jman, why not use a bg image?
[03:18] <erUSUL> jman8888: /usr/share/example-content/
[03:18] <fyrestrtr> YogSothoth: no, you don't *have* to use DHCP, but if you decide not you, you must give IP addresses for atleast one DNS server.
[03:18] <Robin> it there a webpage that shows the common live CD boot problems ?
[03:18] <fyrestrtr> s/not you/not to/
[03:19] <thx4help> hi, how do I autostart an app in Gnome in Ubuntu?
[03:19] <jedi__> lu
[03:19] <fooadd> Robin, use the error message as a keyword in google
[03:19] <YogSothoth> fyrestrtr, which can be my gateway, 192.168.1.1
[03:19] <chris__> Hello, I have a problem with Input devices in Audacity
[03:19] <Robin> i tried
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> thx4help: system > preferences > session > startup tab
[03:19] <RMorris84> jman8888, did u check the examples folder in ur home?
[03:19] <chris__> can anyone help?
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> YogSothoth: sure it can, if your gateway runs dns :)
[03:19] <Robin> much forum threats without answers !
[03:19] <kintaro0e> hello everyone ..is there a wiki/tutorial help on make a webserver on ubuntu? i'm planning to build up a webserver where our company's site will be up on a ubunutu server OS..any advice?
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> !lamp > kintaro0e
[03:20] <erUSUL> ranpha: so you want your ubuntu computer to act as firewall... like in this diagram [inet] <--->[ubuntu_fw] <--->[lan] 
[03:20] <jman8888> RMorris84, Yeah. Ther're a little big but i guess i can sesise. Is there some of a single logo (With no words?)
[03:20] <RMorris84> use gimp and make it what u want
[03:20] <RMorris84> :)
[03:20] <bintut> is there a howto documentation on how to re-create an ubuntu installer like an oem installer?
[03:20] <erUSUL> !install > bintut
[03:20] <kintaro0e> fyrestrtr:  is there a wiki/help page on ubuntu with that?
[03:21] <erUSUL> !apache
[03:21] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:21] <thx4help> thanks
[03:21] <chris__> I have a problem with Microphone input, can someone help me?
[03:21] <Robin> fooadd : there is no error message it freezes
[03:21] <bintut> erUSUL: i want to make use of edubuntu but i want to have apache, mysql and php included
[03:21] <Robin> and i saw many unaswered forum threats  about this
[03:21] <fooadd> Robin, then file a bug against this ;)
[03:22] <ShoeUnited> Is there a way to make a shortcut execute a terminal command?
[03:22] <ShoeUnited> I'm wanting to play wow, and I'm almost there.  LOL
[03:22] <fooadd> ShoeUnited, you mean make a "link"?
[03:22] <ranpha> erusul you can it as a firewall yes but it like this internet------ubuntu----homenetwork
[03:23] <WARlrus> Hi, I've managed to load the USB network adaptor, but when I try to enable it, it says "Activating interface rcusb0" then crashes
[03:23] <kintaro0e> fyrestrtr:  thanks a lot
[03:23] <xin> my xubuntu installer crashed when it was removing the un-needed language packages and now apts being a nub and wanting to reinstall all of them. Anybody know what I can do?
[03:23] <moldy> if i delete the "admin" group by accident, can i just re-add it with groupadd, or will i run into trouble?
[03:23] <Robin> does ubuntu only work on NTFS ?!
[03:24] <RMorris84> is it possible to move the home directory to another partition?
[03:24] <fooadd> moldy, you can add it , yeah
[03:24] <moldy> fooadd: ok, thanks
[03:24] <ShoeUnited> I suppose fooad.
[03:24] <ShoeUnited> It says to type this in terminal :  wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/WoW.exe    But I kinda want a shortcut on my desktop for that. :)
[03:24] <fooadd> ShoeUnited, alias wow=" wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/WoW.exe"
[03:24] <erUSUL> ranpha: for that use only i will choose an specialized dist like smoothwall or ipcop. if you just want to share the inet connection and set up a firewall firestarter is up to the task afaik
[03:24] <fooadd> ShoeUnited, and type wow to run it
[03:25] <ShoeUnited> ohhh ok ^_^
[03:25] <WARlrus> Can anyone help me with my problem ^^^
[03:25] <erUSUL> !firestarter
[03:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Robin: Hi I came in late but NTFS.. ?  Ubuntu does not need ntfs for anything
[03:25] <fooadd> Robin, are you trying to install it on NTFS, that's why you are getting error messages (??)
[03:25] <ranpha> erusul...no i want to use ubuntu and have two networks to acces to
[03:26] <RMorris84> is it possible to move the home directory to another partition?
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> ShoeUnited: you can also just browse WoW.exe and double click on it to launch it with wine automatically.
[03:26] <void^> RMorris84: yes.
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: yes
[03:26] <ShoeUnited> awesome ty
[03:26] <RMorris84> just make it and move it over?
[03:26] <WARlrus> I've managed to load a Belkin USB Network Adaptor, but when I try to enable it , I get a dialogue saying "Activating interface rcusb0" then Ubuntu freezes
[03:27] <KenSentMe> I just tried to install vmware-player on Dapper Drake, but i get this error. Does anyone know how to solve it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22033
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: NOt quite that easy.. Ub needs to know where it is.
[03:27] <ShoeUnited> I just want to mention that when wine installs on ubuntu, it's hidden.  So, if a user can't find it, that's probably the reason.  lol I know I spent quite a few minutes looking for it.  lol
[03:27] <fooadd> RMorris84, make a partition , copy your files there, and add an entry in /etc/fstab
[03:27] <moldy> !quota
[03:27] <ubotu> quota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13-4 (dapper), package size 390 kB, installed size 1168 kB
[03:27] <WineO> Mornin'  all.  I want to install Acrobat Reader and Flash on my new ubuntu box.  Can't find them in the package mgr.  What's the best approach?
[03:28] <KenSentMe> !pdf
[03:28] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> RMorris84: not quite. First, you mount your new drive. Then, as root copy the contents of /home to the new drive (use cp -a to preserve permissions). Then, edit /etc/fstab to make sure the new drive is mounted under /home -- finally, restart the machine (or, umount /home and then mount /home again)
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> WineO: there is a reader in the repos
[03:28] <Miles-> !mp3
[03:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:28] <earthian> i am partitioning my hard disk. could someone smart PM me what partitions do i need for ubuntu?
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> !flash > WineO
[03:28] <frogzoo> when I upgrade, compiz & totem are held back - any hints?
[03:28] <KenSentMe> !flash > WineO
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> frogzoo: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:28] <phreekbird> anyone ever used webmin or know were i can go to get support from?
[03:28] <frogzoo> fyrestrtr: fair point, thx
[03:28] <fooadd> earthian, root (/) and a swap ... for now ... ;)
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> !webnim > phreekbird
[03:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webnim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <WineO> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, gpdf or xpdf I guess. but is there a firefox plugin for it?
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> !webmin > phreekbird
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian: JUst create free space on your hard drive. it partitions automagically
[03:29] <ShoeUnited> !easyubuntu
[03:29] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:29] <ShoeUnited> :D
[03:29] <manopulus> hello, any gtk2 ssh client, a-la putty available?
[03:29] <Robin> Im a bit further now , i unplugged my primary cd drive and put the cd in the newer one . now it halt on further down the boot
[03:29] <ShoeUnited> Suggest that to us windows users.  It'll take out some headaches. ;D
[03:29] <phreekbird> dang that sucks
[03:29] <fooadd> manopulus, IIRC I saw one on gnomefiles.org, do check it
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> manopulus: alt+f2, type gnome-terminal -- then type ssh user@server.com
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ShoeUnited: friends DONT let friends use easyubuntu or automatix
[03:30] <ShoeUnited> lol
[03:30] <fooadd> Jack_Sparrow, lol , why pal?
[03:30] <earthian> fooadd and what about the sizes?
[03:30] <ShoeUnited> I hand't heard of the automatix.
[03:30] <earthian> maybe a boot partition too?
[03:30] <earthian> i have a 500gb drive :D
[03:30] <manopulus> fyrestrtr, no, i need to keep list of pops, i have to manage many ssh points
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> fooadd: We see people in here every day with systems trashed by those "Tools"
[03:30] <WineO> !flash
[03:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:30] <fooadd> earthian, just be generous for the root, and hmmm as you'll read everywhere, swap is the twice the size of ram ;)
[03:30] <RMorris85> jack_sparrow, i got kicked out but i asked if i could move the home to another directory and u said ya, but i got logged off before i could get the answer to if i could just make the new one and move it over or not
[03:30] <ShoeUnited> But I know easyubuntu crashes on java an flash install.  Of course, I installed flash and java first before being told about it.  lol
[03:30] <fooadd> Jack_Sparrow, I agree ;)
[03:30] <ranpha> can ubuntu hadden two network at the same time?
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris85: ONe sec
[03:31] <ShoeUnited> easyubuntu worked for codecs for me...
[03:31] <ranpha> automatix worked fine for me....
[03:31] <Rookie-> ranpha - yes, all depence on how good the solution is ...
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr:  Please give RMorris85 those instructions again.. thanks
[03:31] <sceptre0> Question:  I am using a laptop.  Is it possible to plug in a PS/2 mouse and detect it without restarting the computer?
[03:31] <KenSentMe> When try to convert a .mov file to avi with this command: ffmpeg -i bep2004_powermotive_mov.mov  -acodec mp3 -vcodec wmv2 -f avi powermotive_ffmpeg.avi
[03:32] <Robin> its booting yihhaa , huh it take real long :(
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> ShoeUnited: Works for me... not a good answer
[03:32] <KenSentMe> I get this error: Error while opening codec for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[03:32] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:32] <ShoeUnited> lol I don't doubt linux guardians.  I'm just saying that one part worked and that I saw it crash.
[03:32] <chris__> Hello, I have an input problem with audacity, can someone help me please?
[03:32] <ShoeUnited> On a few things that were more necessary than codecs. lol
[03:32] <Rookie-> sceptre0 - what i know, linux dosent have autodetection .... but the dist ubuntu might have
[03:33] <fooadd> KenSentMe, I get the same, and I gave up the idea of converting mov files to avi/whatever, fuck apple and it's mov files :/
[03:33] <frogzoo> my totem is stuck on 1.4.1 and refuses to upgrade to 1.4.3, any hints?
[03:33] <Rookie-> remove old pkg and install new ... ?
[03:33] <moldy> can someone point me to an ubuntu quota howto?
[03:33] <KenSentMe> fooadd: maybe you are right, but the video editor Cinelerra renders best to mov and i need avi for uploading video to a website
[03:34] <fooadd> KenSentMe, I feel you...
[03:34] <ShoeUnited> Oh that reminds me..
[03:34] <ShoeUnited> !virtualdub
[03:34] <mopflite> frogzoo: mine is 1.4.1-0ubuntu4 too
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualdub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <Rookie-> moldy - any linuxhowto about quota is good - look at lpd
[03:34] <moldy> Rookie-: ok, thanks
[03:34] <mopflite> and I am up to date with dapper
[03:34] <moldy> bbl
[03:34] <ShoeUnited> pooh bunnies.
[03:34] <RMorris85> fyrestrtr: ??
[03:34] <omeganine> !xgl
[03:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:34] <fooadd> KenSentMe, as ShoeUnited  suggested, try virtualdub via wine
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris85: Did you get your answer yet..
[03:34] <RMorris85> no
[03:34] <frogzoo> mopflite: & it says 'held back' ?
[03:34] <jman888_> Hello?
[03:34] <jman888_> file:///usr/share/example-content/book/ubuntubook-ch6-html/6-11.png BREAD
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris85: ONe sec
[03:35] <RMorris85> ok
[03:35] <Rookie-> if anyone needs to know about anything howtodo (or HOWTO) io linux - this one is a good one - http://www.tldp.org/
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: not quite. First, you mount your new drive. Then, as root copy the contents of /home to the new drive (use cp -a to preserve permissions). Then, edit /etc/fstab to make sure the new drive is mounted under /home -- finally, restart the machine (or, umount /home and then mount /home again)
[03:35] <jman888_> Did anybody else see bread?
[03:36] <ShoeUnited> At the bakery lol ^_^  Yes I saw it though.
[03:36] <Rookie-> !tldp
[03:36] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow>  RMorris84, make a partition , copy your files there, and add an entry in /etc/fstab
[03:36] <jman888_> That was great. I The ubuntu people must REALLY love ubuntu.
[03:36] <ShoeUnited> fooadd: There isn't a linux version of vdub?
[03:37] <earthian> got a tiny question: will i go around that raid0 missunderstanding of ubuntu where it does not see my bios made raid array if i create partitions with partitionmagic before installation?
[03:37] <earthian> do you know if i will be able to choose the premade partitions for later installation?
[03:37] <fooadd> ShoeUnited, AFAIK no, ppl run it via wine, it's open source though, dunno why there is no Linux port :/
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris85 I also would suggest you do a backup... It is one line to type in a terminal...
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[03:37] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[03:37] <Rookie-> linux (or ubuntu for that matter) dosent care about bios
[03:37] <mopflite> frogzoo: 1.4.1 is definitely the latest dapper totem, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/gnome/
[03:38] <ShoeUnited> fooadd: Yeah, that's what I thought, I automatically equated open source to linux.
[03:38] <RMorris85> Jack_sparrow: Thanks... ill do a lil more research, but thats the next thing on my list...
[03:38] <Linuturk_code> don't you just have to backup your /home directory to fully backup your system?
[03:38] <Masqy> hi, How can I search with apt-get for a package, the same way I do with synpatic?
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:38] <frogzoo> mopflite: hmm... i must be picking it up from a newer repo - ok, that's cool, thx
[03:38] <Rookie-> apt-cache search
[03:39] <Rookie-> sudo apt-cache search *pkgname*
[03:39] <jman888_> Masqy, Try going into firefox clicking on the Search thing(WIth google) and selecting ubuntu packages. Works for me
[03:39] <cyfr> Hi can anyone tell me how to COMPLETLY remove XGL and then install xorg back again so that I can install and play games with cedega?
[03:39] <fooadd> RMorris84, found this http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-partplan.html
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Linuturk_code: No
[03:39] <RMorris85> Jack_Sparrow, what what i need to do to reinstall or maybe try another linux distro on the partition that i just took /home/ off of?
[03:39] <Masqy> Rookie-: can I use partial names instead of pkgname ?
[03:39] <longwave> cyfr: that kind of depends on how you installed xgl in the first place, which set of instructions did you follow?
[03:39] <AsadR> there's a notification icon that tells me i need to install 163 updates, is tehre anywya i can sort them by SIZE and make it download and install the smaller ones first?
[03:39] <longwave> Masqy: apt-cache search searches package descriptions and partial strings as well as just package names
[03:40] <Elazar> I have the gimp and gimp-python packages installed on Dapper, but the majority of the options under Filters, Script-Fu, and Python-Fu are disabled. Does anyone know why this might be?
[03:40] <cyfr> longwave: im not sure :p basicly added a repo and did an apt-get i think
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris85 USe that tar command to backup your system.. copy that to another partition or cd or dvd...
[03:40] <Masqy> longwave: hi, how can I see the status of the packages, which are installed and which aren't?
[03:40] <longwave> AsadR: not easily. some small ones might depend on a larger one being installed first, anyway
[03:40] <fooadd> Masqy, dpkg --l
[03:40] <fooadd> dpkg -l
[03:40] <longwave> Masqy: dpkg -l will show you all installed packages plus any removed but that still have their config files
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris85 Doo whatever, then un TAR it to restore your system
[03:41] <Rookie-> Masqy - yes, i just typed pkgname to show you that you can search any file or pakacge
[03:41] <Masqy> fooadd: that I'd have to do for each seperately, can I watch it while I seach ?
[03:41] <Rookie-> pkgname = packagename
[03:41] <fooadd> dpkg -l  will list all pkgs, dpkg -l *gnome* will list pkgs with the word gnome
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris85 you need to creats a couple folders but the backup docs are clear about that
[03:41] <longwave> Masqy: you can also browse and search for packages at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ if that is easier
[03:41] <fooadd> Masqy, or you meant something else?
[03:42] <Masqy> fooadd: well, basically, when I search using synaptic, I get a list of packages, with their status, when I searched (just now) using apt-cache, I just got the list
[03:42] <Masqy> how can I find out which is installed along with the search?
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris85: Hope that helps
[03:43] <fooadd> Masqy, by status you mean "installed/not installed"?
[03:43] <longwave> Masqy: you have to use synaptic for that, dpkg and apt-cache search are not connected unfortunately
[03:43] <cyfr> So how can I remove XGL to allow me to play games?
[03:43] <Masqy> fooadd: yes
[03:43] <longwave> Masqy: aptitude might help out here though
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[03:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:43] <fooadd> if you see "ii" in front of a pkg, this means it's installed, rc, or something else, this means it's not installed, or not configured yet
[03:43] <fooadd> Masqy, dpkg -l | grep ^ii  <-- will list installed pkgs
[03:44] <cyfr> I want to remove it not install xgl :p
[03:44] <Masqy> I remeber a program called dselect from an old woody installation I had once. is that avail. ?  Ok, sure I can grep, just was wondering.. .ok thanks...
[03:44] <longwave> cyfr: maybe asking in #ubuntu-xgl will get you better answers, though
[03:44] <Masqy> got a handful of ideas.. : )
[03:44] <ShoeUnited> fooadd: vdub's author might read if interested.  -->  http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=39
[03:44] <chris__> I can play sound back in audacity, but I can't record it through my Microphone, anyone have any idea why?
[03:44] <cyfr> thankyou longwave
[03:44] <fooadd> ShoeUnited, thanks for the link, checking it ;)
[03:45] <longwave> Masqy: "aptitude" is the replacement for "dselect", which is rather old now
[03:45] <fooadd> Masqy, I'd rather be screwed than use dselect YIKES!
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Masqy: dpkg --get-selections > myprog.txt   will create a list of installed packages in a text file
[03:46] <ubuntu> yo
[03:46] <Masqy> fooadd, longwave: Allright, so I guess I might have been looking for that.. I remember it was.. well.. how to put it.. irritating (dselect)
[03:46] <ubuntu> hi
[03:46] <Masqy> Jack_Sparrow: 10x... I think I'll just man aptitude and dpkg for a while
[03:47] <longwave> yeah, dselect takes me back to the bad old days of the debian text-based installer *shudder*
[03:48] <AsadR> Anyone use irssi in a gnome-terminal? How do i switch windows since the terminal eats the aLt-N keystrokes
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> AsadR: esc+number
[03:50] <KenSentMe> AsadR: my terminal doesn't. I only have problems when i have multiple tabs open in one terminal
[03:50] <longwave> yeah irssi works fine for me in gnome-terminal
[03:50] <fooadd> hmmm that reminds me of trying this irssi thing :P
[03:50] <longwave> alt+shift+left or right can also switch between irssi windows
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> longwave: open a few tabs, then try it :)
[03:50] <AsadR> ok i guess if i open only 1 tab it should be
[03:50] <AsadR> fine
[03:50] <longwave> fyrestrtr: i use screen ;)
[03:51] <longwave> who needs all these new-fangled tabbed terminals when you have good old gnu screen?
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> I do, for one.
[03:51] <WineO> !firewall
[03:51] <fooadd> I do :P
[03:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:51] <Zajjko> Heya, I'm having a tab bit of a problem using UVC-drivers with my Logitech QuickCam Pro 5000. I've followed the installation-notes in the following thread and I was wondering if you guys have a good view on what could be wrong, reading my reply? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241681
[03:51] <Rookie-> !firestarter
[03:52] <Rookie-> huh ?
[03:52] <AsadR> nothing beats Alt-N tab switching. Infact, IMO Firefox's Windows tab switching needing Ctrl-N instead of Alt-N was a big mistake
[03:52] <Rookie-> ubotu ?
[03:52] <Rookie-> !firestarter
[03:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:52] <fooadd> Rookie-,  you wrote it wrong :P
[03:52] <Masqy> dpkg -l shows only installed ones, how can I watch all of them?
[03:52] <AsadR> Most windows multi-file editors (pnotepad, eclipse, ultra-edit, etc..) don't support Alt-N file switching, which sucks.
[03:52] <Rookie-> hmmm .... i use iptables and i write my own fw ...
[03:53] <fooadd> Masqy, all of what? dpkg -l shows installed and not_installed/not_configured pkgs, this means ALL of them :)
[03:53] <Rookie-> only little curious about firestarter
[03:53] <Masqy> fooadd: in my system id doesn't : (
[03:53] <Masqy> it
[03:53] <fooadd> weird......
[03:54] <mopflite> Rookie-: imho firestarter is an excellent "fit and forget" desktop firewall - not particularly configurable, but good for most desktop users
[03:54] <digitalhav0c> how do i extract a bin and cue file
[03:54] <Rookie-> ahh, oki
[03:54] <Rookie-> ty 4 -h
[03:54] <Masqy> I think it shows only installed/configured ones
[03:54] <longwave> Masqy: there are 1000s of packages, you wouldn't really want dpkg to list them *all* every time you ran it would you?
[03:54] <digitalhav0c> well a .bin file
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> digitalhav0c: use bchunk
[03:54] <digitalhav0c> without burning them to cd
[03:54] <digitalhav0c> bchunk
[03:54] <Zajjko> digitalhav0c: Why do you want them extracted?
[03:54] <Masqy> well, I just want to search them, and for that I have to traverse them.. in some manner
[03:55] <digitalhav0c> becuase i dont have an black cd's here
[03:55] <fooadd> Masqy, no lines starting with "rc" ??
[03:55] <Zajjko> digitalhav0c: mount it as a cdrom device?
[03:55] <digitalhavc|work> how so in linux
[03:55] <longwave> Masqy: well, "apt-cache search" searches them, installed or not, and you can compare that with your dpkg -l list to see if they are already installed, or use aptitude or synaptic
[03:55] <beerockxs> how can I configure which JRE i want to use, when I have several installed?
[03:55] <gil> i need to connect my GSM phone to ubuntu...please help
[03:55] <fooadd> digen, mount foo.bim -o loop /mnt/somewhere as root (??)
[03:55] <mopflite> Rookie-: you might want to check out fwbuilder for a more configurable iptables management package - it is something akin to an open source check point fw-1 gui clone
[03:55] <digitalhavc|work> i know in windows i use alcohol120%
[03:56] <Zajjko> digitalhavc|work: sudo mount /path/to/the/bin/file.bin /media/cdrom1/
[03:56] <longwave> digitalhavc|work: you don't need any extra software to do that in linux, just "sudo mount -o loop file.iso /path/to/mount/point"
[03:56] <eliran> hello
[03:56] <Masqy> longwave: that's what I'm about to do.. (maybe first I'll take a look at aptitude)
[03:56] <mdasilva> hi
[03:56] <teekay_> Hello
[03:56] <Zajjko> oh yeah
[03:56] <Zajjko> -0 loop forgot that ; D
[03:56] <digitalhavc|work> let me try
[03:56] <digitalhavc|work> brb
[03:56] <gil> hello
[03:56] <trygg> Whats the best way to save my whole homedrive, with all the .various dirs intact?
[03:56] <eliran> investigating
[03:56] <mdasilva> no
[03:56] <teekay_> interest
[03:56] <gil> i need help with connecting GSM cell phone to ubuntu
[03:56] <iLikeSpoons> so, I have a problem. Lately, applications started, well, closing themselves in gnome. Without any warning or error messages
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[03:56] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[03:56] <Zajjko> Would anyone be so kind as to help me troubleshoot my webcam issue?
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> trygg: One line to type in terminal
[03:57] <iLikeSpoons> this happens to synaptic, xchat, gaim and practically everything else
[03:57] <Rookie-> mopflite - ty, i use console only on my server and i write my own fw from scratch .... i was only curious about firestarter ... i guessed it was something with GUI thou
[03:57] <trygg> Jack_Sparrow: I have no spare hddspace left so i need to like ftp it
[03:57] <fooadd> iLikeSpoons, start then from a terminal, and watch the error messages they spit
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> iLikeSpoons: maybe they are just tired?
[03:58] <iLikeSpoons> *much more crashes than there used to be
[03:58] <gil> does anyone have any input on connecting motorola cell phone to ubuntu
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> trygg: good luck ...  I would not know where to start with that and feel comfortable I got it right.   I would borrow or buy a new drive if I were in that situation
[03:59] <Rookie-> sounds dangerous to connect a phone to a pc ....
[03:59] <gil> ok
[03:59] <trygg> Jack_Sparrow: damn
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> trygg: JUst my opinion... someone else may be able to help
[04:00] <trygg> well, lemme try something
[04:00] <trygg> brb
[04:00] <donrosin> ERROR: Unable to bind to TCP socket.
[04:00] <donrosin>  ?? wtf
[04:00] <gil> adios
[04:00] <Rookie-> lol @ donrosin
[04:00] <infidel> i don't see where to change my icons
[04:01] <Rookie-> donrosin - history on that 1
[04:01] <cAtarro> hi
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> infidel: Which icons
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> infidel: A single program or all as in system icons
[04:01] <donrosin> i have one vt server running but i want one more.. I have opened the port for the new
[04:01] <cAtarro> i need a help about windows ... i know it's ubunturoom, but i am in the dirt
[04:01] <cAtarro> where can i go
[04:01] <infidel> Jack_Sparrow, desktop folder and all
[04:01] <jrib> cAtarro: ##windows may help
[04:01] <Zajjko> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241681 - Could someone have a quick check at my reply and perhaps give some pointers? Having trouble with my webcam
[04:02] <cAtarro> a fuc k in virus inside my hole
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> infidel: theme manager... try gnome-look.org for icon themes
[04:02] <digitalhavc|work> must specify a file system type
[04:02] <fooadd> cAtarro, switch to Linux :P
[04:02] <donrosin> Rookie-,  ?
[04:02] <digitalhavc|work> Zajjko,
[04:02] <Zajjko> digitalhavc|work,
[04:02] <iLikeSpoons> nothing crashes when you want it to crash, just when it shouldn't... :P
[04:02] <Rookie-> well, only thing i can think of some that something is in collition with another
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> cAtarro: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ linux boot cd with WIndows AV tools
[04:02] <cAtarro> fooad i use linux, but i am in my gf's home
[04:03] <cAtarro> my best friend in love 's home
[04:03] <infidel> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[04:03] <digitalhavc|work> Zajjko, it says you must specify a file system
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:03] <Rookie-> donrosin - look into what ports any app useing .... and what another apps wants to use - on that way it can be some problem ... but a deny .. ? sounds real wierd
[04:04] <Zajjko> digitalhavc|work: That's what I said, I forgot the -o loop
[04:04] <iLikeSpoons> haha... gnome panel just crashed
[04:04] <Rookie-> donrosin - remember - linux does what you want it to do ...
[04:04] <Zajjko> digitalhavc|work: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/the/bin/file.bin /media/cdrom1/
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Most linux wounds are self inflicted :)
[04:05] <Rookie-> i would say any :)
[04:05] <digitalhavc|work> ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy
[04:05] <digitalhavc|work> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:05] <SiLV3R> hi, just booted ubuntu and got this error: http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8004/dscf0003yn4.jpg , I didn't change or update anything the last time. somebody can help?
[04:05] <mike-digiport-> if I want to have a webserver, run with a proxy server, to forward all properly authenticated request to another site that is only accepting from my proxy server, what would be the best software for this?
[04:06] <digitalhavc|work>  sudo mount -o loop /home/digitalhav0c/Downloads/xxx/xxx.bin /media/cdrom0
[04:06] <digitalhavc|work> is what i put in
[04:06] <Zajjko> digitalhavc|work: set it to cdrom1 instead
[04:06] <doughboy> Anyone have experience with printer sharing from ubuntu host pc  with windows xp ?  I am curious because I have samba set up so I can see it in xp my network places and can set up the printer from there. I just cannot directly connect to the printer if I try to setup a new network printer. Any ideas?
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> picassa so spanks f-spot :)
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> SiLV3R: Looks like you moved a partition
[04:07] <Rookie-> SiLV3R - you have done somehting wrong with the fstab or with the partion when you made the partiontable or installed and with the mountpoiunts
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> SiLV3R: Run live and gparted to see how they look
[04:07] <SiLV3R> ok, will try thank u
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Damn this channel is good
[04:08] <Rookie-> depence on what you looking for Jack_Sparrow
[04:08] <Soujirou7> hey cool, m online with ubuntu live
[04:08] <NickRivers> ok... dumb question of the morning - is there anyway to convert my system hdd from reiserfs to ext3 without having to reinstall?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> In general, one of the most helpful groups around
[04:08] <infidel> Jack_Sparrow, do you recall where the icons are kept in /usr?
[04:08] <manopulus> how i can erase/change gnome-keyring password (i do not have gnome, just some apps). can i remove some settings file?
[04:08] <NickRivers> infidel: /usr/share
[04:09] <erUSUL> infidel: /usr/share/pixmaps/ ??
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> infidel:  What all are you trying to do..
[04:09] <Rookie-> Jack_Sparrow - well, you can find me in some channels were the most common answer is rtfm ... i learn alot in those channels
[04:09] <Soujirou7> How can I get ubuntu live to access my files on my hard disk?
[04:09] <erUSUL> mike-digiport-: iirc apache has a mod_proxy....
[04:09] <infidel> Jack_Sparrow, thanks again,  i have the glas icons theme installed and a couple of icons need to be set
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: mount the drive
[04:10] <jrib> Soujirou7: system > administration > disks
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !mount
[04:10] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:10] <erUSUL> Soujirou7: System>Admin>disks
[04:10] <NickRivers> Soujirou7: mount the hdd you want to access
[04:10] <Soujirou7> I did and I think it is mounted but it tells me that I don't have enough privilages?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: faster than me as usual
[04:10] <digitalhavc|work> digitalhav0c@ares:~$ sudo mount -o loop /home/digitalhav0c/Downloads/Snakeonaplane/Snakeonaplane.bin /media/cdrom1
[04:10] <digitalhavc|work> ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy
[04:10] <digitalhavc|work> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:10] <digitalhavc|work> digitalhav0c@ares:~$
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: Are you trying to write to ntfs.. not a good idea
[04:11] <NickRivers> is there anyway to convert my system hdd from reiserfs to ext3 without having to reinstall?
[04:11] <Soujirou7> no just read ntfs
[04:11] <jrib> Soujirou7: yeah, it gets mounted with root ownership.  If this was a regular install you could go ahead and mount it with proper permissions, but since this is just a live cd, just use 'gksudo nautilus' in applications > accessories > terminal
[04:11] <C-O-L-T> hello Ubuntu
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> 828 people shout hello back
[04:12] <Soujirou7> what is gksudo nautilus?
[04:12] <Rookie-> hehe
[04:12] <NickRivers> Soujirou7: gksudo nautilus will open the file browser in root mode
[04:12] <Rookie-> no panic no panic - all at the same time :)
[04:12] <SiLV3R> Jack_Sparrow: when i boot live cd, i can't see my normal ubuntu partition
[04:12] <wheelswitch> kde vs gnome, discuss.
[04:12] <Soujirou7> ok thanks will try :)
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: Like windows explorer.. not IE...
[04:12] <jrib> wheelswitch: #ubuntu-offtopic is better suited for that
[04:13] <C-O-L-T> Jack_Sparrow: nope I was just saying a big hello
[04:13] <NickRivers> Jack_Sparrow: you seem to be the goto guy... is there anyway to convert my system hdd from reiserfs to ext3 without having to reinstall?
[04:13] <C-O-L-T> Jack_Sparrow: that is all
[04:13] <Sp[L] o1T> i need help ..i need a romanian people :|
[04:13] <C-O-L-T> Jack_Sparrow: :)
[04:13] <C-O-L-T> Sp[L] o1T: I am from romania
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> NickRivers: anything at that level is dangerous
[04:13] <NickRivers> Jack_Sparrow: bout what I figured
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> SiLV3R: use 'gksudo nautilus' in applications > accessories > terminal
[04:14] <ryanakca> I'm going to go and get a good video card, a non-ATI, video card, around 200CAD, that will work with (AIGLX/XGL)+Compiz . What's recommended?
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ryanakca:  nvidia
[04:14] <NickRivers> ryanakca: any high-end nvidia card will do
[04:14] <NickRivers> I use an nvidia 6800 OC and it works great with xgl
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> 6600 oc here
[04:15] <Soujirou7> Funny jack_sparrow :) It worked but it did give me a warning that the authentication was rejected
[04:15] <NickRivers> I wonder how long before xgl really matures? still a bit quirky
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: yep
[04:15] <ShoeUnited> I use an ATI Radeon 8750, I won't lie, there were troubles at first.
[04:16] <NickRivers> ATI doesn't play as nice with linux as nvidia
[04:16] <Rookie-> As Tray In can ....
[04:16] <muhammad> how can i install GDM Themes ?
[04:16] <ShoeUnited> I've noticed, but I'm stuck atm. :l
[04:16] <Sp[L] o1T> prv ;)
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> muhammad: drag and drop the tar onto theme manager
[04:16] <NickRivers> muhammad: go to system > admin > login window
[04:16] <iLikeSpoons> NickRivers: it sure doesn't.... especially the 7000 mobility series. Damn I need to get a new card
[04:16] <Hagbarddenstore> Hey! Any KDE'rs here? Is there a file that KDE looks in for things to autostart?
[04:16] <dfd> lol it happened a strange thing.. I'm running xchat without being logged it.. xchat is on top of gdm.. o_O
[04:17] <Hagbarddenstore> at boot then...
 <NickRivers> thx aloooot :>
[04:17] <NickRivers> Hagbarddenstore: $HOME/.kde/AutoStart
[04:17] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: yes
[04:17] <SiLV3R> Jack_Sparrow: when i try to access my normal ubuntu partition following error appears: "error: device /dev/hda6 is not removable" and "error: couldn't execute pmount"
[04:17] <Hagbarddenstore> NickRivers: Thankls
[04:17] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: you can also set autostart in kcontrol
[04:18] <Hagbarddenstore> ryanakca: ok
[04:18] <Hagbarddenstore> I have to symlink commands to autostart correct?
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: can you help SiLV3R Im not sure where he is at with that
[04:18] <NickRivers> Hagbarddenstore: no... put .desktop files in your autostart folder
[04:18] <ShoeUnited> Any speculations on future linux when ATI/AMD start making new stuff?
[04:18] <SonicChao> When I try to lauch juice it says "FATAL ERROR: Screen size is smaller than 80x25". Why is this?
[04:18] <ryanakca> Hagbarddenstore: come to #kubuntu and I'll help you there
[04:18] <ShoeUnited> I've got this feeling that they'll be making mobos.
[04:19] <NickRivers> Hagbarddenstore: make a link to application on your desktop and then copy it to your autostart folder
[04:19] <kill4killin> Can someone help me fix my ubuntu install,  think kdm got messed up somehow and i dont know how to either switch to gdm or to re-install kdm
[04:19] <jrib> SiLV3R: type 'mount' in a terminal.  Then post the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link please
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> SiLV3R: you are in gksudo nautilus correct..
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks jrib
[04:20] <kishore> when trieng to install mplayer getting error as Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[04:20] <forevertheuni> hi I'm doind a bootstrap and I'm having a problem :
[04:20] <SiLV3R> ok
[04:20] <forevertheuni> + automake --copy --foreign --add-missing
[04:20] <forevertheuni> tests/CeRapiInvoke/Makefile.am:2: invalid unused variable name: `AM_LDFLAGS'
[04:20] <earthian> !raid
[04:20] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:20] <forevertheuni> and then 2 other AM_LDFLAGS warning
[04:21] <kill4killin> When i log into xserver using kdm, for some reason it starts to log in and then stops and brings up kdm again. Can someone help me fix this
[04:21] <forevertheuni> kill4killin, probably some problem start the WM
[04:21] <forevertheuni> starting*
[04:21] <kill4killin> forevertheuni: do you know how i can go about fixing this, maybe to re-install kdm or use gdm instead?
[04:21] <NickRivers> kill4killin: have you checked to see what type of seesion you have selected?
[04:21] <kishore> when trieng to install mplayer getting error as Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[04:22] <jrib> !xhangs > kill4killin
[04:22] <jrib> kill4killin: try what ubotu said
[04:22] <forevertheuni> kill4killin, see the logs
[04:22] <kill4killin> NickRivers: i have tried all the different sessions and nothing works
I can see my file structure but it won't mount even an mp3 (No codecs?)
[04:23] <SiLV3R> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22044
 I can access my docs though, which is nice
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: running live you will not be able to play an mp3
[04:24] <Soujirou7> Darn hehe
[04:24] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: he can still install the codecs on a live cd can't he?
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: Make them ogg's and you are golden
[04:24] <kill4killin> jrib: i did that but it still does not start
[04:24] <KenSentMe> I just tried to install vmware-player on Dapper Drake, but i get this error. Does anyone know how to solve it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22033
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib:  I think so but I thought he was just trying to recover his files
[04:24] <jrib> kill4killin: k, then logs is the way to go as someone else suggested
[04:25] <Soujirou7> how do you "make" them ogg?
[04:25] <kill4killin> i think i missed that part, would you please reitterate?
[04:25] <chaosite> I have a problem with my thinkpad running Dapper, it doesn't notice when I remove AC power
[04:25] <jrib> SiLV3R: when you go to system > administration > disks is the partition you want to mount enabled?
[04:25] <NickRivers> KenSentMe: looks like a kernel module - vmnet - needs to be loaded?
[04:25] <bilss_> hi
[04:26] <jrib> kill4killin: check ~/.xsession-errors
[04:26] <KenSentMe> NickRivers: shouldn't that be done by apt?
[04:26] <ShoeUnited> !ppoe > earthian
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> I use sound converter, but I dont think it is in live.. and are you reading from ntfs.. do you have another drive to write to that is NOT ntfs
[04:26] <arno> Hello. Could someone test my ftp server : ftp://83.157.181.153
[04:26] <NickRivers> KenSentMe: dunno... try doing a modprobe vmnet
[04:26] <jrib> kill4killin: try creating a new user too and see if you can login with the new user
[04:26] <bilss_> if i have a directory and a file run as root and i want to change the permissions to alex is it chown alex:alex?
[04:26] <Soujirou7> I have a fat32 partition but I'am unsure if I got it mounted
[04:26] <ufk> what branch includes glade-3? it's not in dapper
[04:27] <KenSentMe> NickRivers: FATAL: Module vmnet not found
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> arno: could not connect
[04:27] <kill4killin> jrib: i checked and there is either no file under that name or its empty
[04:27] <chaosite> Ok it gets weirder
[04:27] <frogzoo> !pppoe
[04:27] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:27] <chaosite> Only the tray icon get confused
[04:27] <chaosite> the applet works fine
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: could you please restate your intentions?
[04:27] <NickRivers> KenSentMe: did you get any installation errors when you installed vmware?
[04:28] <ShoeUnited> !PPoE
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PPoE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <jrib> Soujirou7: type 'mount' in a terminal and find out
[04:28] <KenSentMe> NickRivers: the complete installation report is in the paste
[04:28] <SiLV3R^2> jrib:  oculd you send again please, win sucks :D
[04:28] <Soujirou7> I tried to mount it but nothing happened.
[04:28] <jrib> SiLV3R: when you go to system > administration > disks is the partition you want to mount, enabled?
[04:28] <frogzoo> arno: ftp doesn't respond
[04:28] <KenSentMe> NickRivers: it's in Dutch, but there are no errors
[04:29] <ubuntu> hi KenSentMe
[04:29] <KenSentMe> ubuntu: hi
[04:29] <arno> frogzoo : could you try again now please?
[04:29] <ubuntu> whats up, how is it going?
[04:29] <frogzoo> arno: no dice - it pings though
[04:29] <NickRivers> KenSentMe: try sudo dpkg --configure vmware-player
[04:29] <KenSentMe> ubuntu: everything ok, but this kind of talk belongs to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:30] <arno> frogzoo what do you mean?
[04:30] <jrib> SiLV3R: when you select the partition, the bottom should say "Status", make sure that is enabled
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7:  follow jrib's advice and paste results from mount in terminal
[04:30] <ubuntu> lol
[04:30] <ubuntu> wow
[04:30] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: when you select the partition, the bottom should say "Status", make sure that is enabled
[04:30] <Soujirou7> ok
[04:30] <frogzoo> arno: I can ping the ip - but I get no ftp prompt
[04:30] <dfd> !edgy
[04:30] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:30] <arno> what's my problem then frogzoo?
[04:31] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: this is in the system > administration > disks dialog
[04:31] <NickRivers> arno: is your firewall setup properly?
[04:31] <frogzoo> arno: I guess you haven't got your firewall/router setup properly
[04:31] <mdasilva> yo
[04:31] <ryanakca> NickRivers: what about this: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18958&vpn=EAX850PRO/HTVD/256M/A&manufacture=ASUS
[04:31] <KenSentMe> NickRivers: i get the same error as earlier
[04:31] <SiLV3R^2> jrib: partition is disabled. but i can't activate it, becuase of "status: Inaccessible"
[04:31] <mdasilva> ??
[04:31] <Linuturk_code> !schedule
[04:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:31] <arno> frogzoo Nickrivers i'll look
[04:31] <SiLV3R^2> jrib: if i try to activat it doesn't work
[04:31] <Zajjko> Can anyone give any helpful tips on errors arising with UVC-driver with Logitech QuickCam Pro 5000 on 6.06?
[04:31] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: does it give you an error?
[04:32] <NickRivers> ryanakca: it's an ATI card... I wouldn't use it with linux... get and Nvidia
[04:32] <SiLV3R^2> no nothing
[04:32] <Soujirou7> unionfs on / type unionfs (rw)
[04:32] <Soujirou7> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[04:32] <Soujirou7> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[04:32] <Soujirou7> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[04:32] <Soujirou7> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[04:32] <Soujirou7> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[04:32] <Soujirou7> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[04:32] <Soujirou7> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[04:32] <Soujirou7> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[04:32] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: ok, what filesystem does it use?  and what is its name? (/dev/hda6?)
[04:32] <Soujirou7> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[04:32] <jrib> !paste > Soujirou7
[04:32] <Soujirou7> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[04:32] <Soujirou7> /dev/hda1 on /tmp/disks-conf-hda1 type ntfs (rw)
[04:33] <ubuntu> Soujirou7: plz use pastebin.com
[04:33] <SiLV3R^2> jrib: name /dev/hda6 -- filesystem: extend 3
[04:33] <Soujirou7> ok i got that
[04:33] <Soujirou7> sorry
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Hold on ntfs rw ?
[04:33] <SiLV3R^2> under acess path, there stands none, is that riught?
[04:33] <arno> Nickrivers, frogzoo does it work now?
[04:33] <Soujirou7> yeah
[04:33] <NickRivers> arno: what's the url again?
[04:33] <frogzoo> arno: ip again?
[04:34] <dmsantam> Jack_Sparrow, yep
[04:34] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: ok that is probably why, go into a terminal and do 'mkdir /media/hda6'.  That create the /media/hda6 directory, then use that is the access path and try to enable again
[04:34] <ryanakca> NickRivers: and is EVGA E-GEFORCE a NVIDIA or is it EVGA (it was on the nvidia page)
[04:34] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: sorry, that should be 'sudo mkdir /media/hda6'
[04:34] <arno> frogzoo nickrivers ftp://83.157.181.153
[04:34] <NickRivers> ryanakca: the link you gave me was to an ASUS Radeon card - radeon is ati
[04:34] <frogzoo> arno: nope
[04:34] <dmsantam> !fuse
[04:34] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:35] <ubuntu> arno: ur server is up cna ping
[04:35] <nahoj> anyone running aiglx/xgl + compiz on intel 915gm express?? does it work properly?
[04:35] <SiLV3R^2> ok, is activated now, i'll try to reboot my main system to normal ubuntu
[04:35] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: wait, why?
[04:35] <erUSUL> |xgl
[04:35] <erUSUL> !xgl
[04:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:35] <frogzoo> arno: getting ftp through a firewall can be tricky - suggest you google 'ftp firewall'
[04:35] <ubuntu> arno: which tool r u using , proftpd?
[04:35] <ryanakca> NickRivers: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16741&vpn=128-P2-N367&manufacture=eVGA     isn't nvidia, but eVGA, right? (it's a different link than the first)
[04:36] <kill4k1illin> does anyone else have any ideas why when i log into xserver it just goes back to the kdm login screen? i need this fixed asap so i can finsish a project
[04:36] <kosnick> any channel about ubuntu and dsl routers ?
[04:36] <SiLV3R^2> sdev/hda6 is /. i'm on live cd now
[04:36] <jrib> kill4k1illin: did it do the same with a new user?
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: you are running live cd and it shows the ntfs partition as read/write ?  I am confused.. I'll just listen for awhile
[04:36] <kill4k1illin> i only have one user, but i could try making a new one and see
[04:36] <siegie> does anyone know a package for viewing, the leds of numlock caps lock on the gnome panel
[04:36] <NickRivers> ryanakca: eVGA is just the company selling the card - anything "GeForce" is nvidia based
[04:36] <arno> frogzoo ubuntu I use proftpd. Can you try again now?
[04:36] <Soujirou7> you know more than I do... :)
[04:36] <arno> please
[04:36] <ryanakca> NickRivers: oh, ok
[04:36] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: but mounting it on the livecd won't affect anything.  What are you trying to do?
[04:36] <frogzoo> kill4k1illin: do you have a .Xsession or a .gnomerc or problem in your .profile ?
[04:36] <ryanakca> NickRivers: Thanks
[04:37] <SiLV3R^2> you got the screenshot earlier?
[04:37] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: or was this like a practice run?
[04:37] <NickRivers> ryanakca: for example, my nvidia geforce 6800 was made by BFG Tech
[04:37] <arno> ftp://83.157.181.153
[04:37] <kill4k1illin> frogzoo: how do you make a new user again, its been so long since i made one
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> SiLV3R^2: yes saw screenshot and the problem with hda6
[04:37] <frogzoo> arno: nope & this is getting old fast - read up on firewalling ftp as I say
[04:37] <erUSUL> kill4k1illin: System>admin>users
[04:37] <omeganine> I installed my ATI drivers and now my video colors are all F'd up.  Its just the video overlay, desktop colors are fine....any ideas?
[04:38] <kill4k1illin> erUSUL: i dont have xserver
[04:38] <ubuntu> kill4k1illin: adduser command
[04:38] <frogzoo> kill4k1illin: sudo adduser snookums
[04:38] <kill4k1illin> thats it, thank you ubuntu
[04:38] <ubuntu> kill4k1illin: yw
[04:38] <SiLV3R^2> jrib: so the main prob, ist that my hda6 is / (boot) partition and i can't boot ubuntu. just used the live cd to make those settings
[04:38] <NickRivers> arno: what port do you have your ftp server setup to use?
[04:39] <kill4k1illin> ok, whats the default root password for dapper? It wont let me make a new user using my login
[04:39] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: oh ok, I didn't understand what you were doing
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[04:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:39] <frogzoo> kill4k1illin: sudo adduser snookums
[04:39] <kill4k1illin> oooo ok
[04:39] <ubuntu> kill4k1illin:  type sudo passwd root
[04:40] <ubuntu> make a new 1
[04:40] <SiLV3R^2> jrib: ok, what can i try now to make it work
[04:40] <frogzoo> ubuntu: setting a pw for root isn't required, nor rec'd
[04:40] <ubuntu> frogzoo: kill was asking for it
[04:40] <Soujirou7> Success! (I think)  I changed the access path for my fat32 partition so now it is accessable.
[04:41] <kill4k1illin> frogzoo: yes the same thing happens with a different user
[04:41] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: not sure why mounting /dev/hda6 on the livecd would work but it complains during bootup
[04:41] <NickRivers> jrib: what mount options are in fstab for /dev/hda6?
[04:41] <NickRivers> arno: what port do you have your ftp server setup to use?
[04:42] <ubuntu> oh well
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: What are you trying to do?
[04:42] <ubuntu> later
[04:42] <jrib> SiLV3R^2: maybe NickRivers can help, I'm about to leave.  gl
[04:42] <frogzoo> kill4k1illin: pastebin /var/log/gdm/\:0.log
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: Nice work as always
[04:43] <kill4k1illin> frogzoo: is there a way i can try logging in with gdm, im using kdm now
[04:43] <NickRivers> SiLV3R: put the contents of /etc/fstab on pastebin and give me the url
[04:43] <SiLV3R^2> paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22048 <<< is fstab right?
[04:43] <MrFatJack> xgl breaks my gnome-panel applets that want keyboard input (deskbar, etc). any thoughts?
[04:43] <SiLV3R^2> NickRivers: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22048
[04:44] <NickRivers> SiLV3R: yah - hang on
[04:44] <SiLV3R^2> jrib: thanks anyway :)
[04:44] <frogzoo> kill4k1illin: sure - choose 'session' from login menu, as long as you have gnome installed already
[04:44] <jake1> i'm hoping someone can assist me in finding out what driver my Wireless card is using
[04:44] <bilss_> how to chown/ as from user name root to alex a dir andf file? is it chown alex:alex?
[04:44] <kill4k1illin> frogzoo: no, i mean, instead of using kdm i want to log in using gdm. I have already tried logging into all the WMs i have installed
[04:44] <frogzoo> MrFatJack: it's not just your hotkey settings?
[04:44] <jake1> it works, but i am curious which driver it works with that way i can set up kismet
[04:45] <sethk> kill4k1illin, you can do that
[04:45] <manux> Why when I Install madwifi I get this error message: Makefile.inc:113: *** KERNELCONF: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/.config does not exist..  Stop.
[04:45] <kill4k1illin> sethk: yes, but how?
[04:45] <manux> ?
[04:45] <frogzoo> kill4k1illin: can you select gnome session from login?
[04:45] <sethk> bilss_, yes, for both user name and gropup,   user:group
[04:45] <MrFatJack> frogzoo: not sure what you mean?
[04:45] <kill4k1illin> yes, but it does not work
I am trying to access my most used files under ubuntu so that I know what works and what doesn't...I don't want to dump my Win sys just yet
[04:45] <T`ch> anyone use mc here?
[04:46] <T`ch> i'm trying to change the default editor to vim...
[04:46] <frogzoo> MrFatJack: is there a menu for 'session' ? where you can select gnome?
[04:46] <sethk> kill4k1illin, in the /etc/rc.# directories are scripts run for each level
[04:46] <jake1> frogzoo at login
[04:46] <sethk> kill4k1illin, you replace the one that runs kdm with one that runs gdm
[04:46] <NickRivers> SiLV3R: try changing "/dev/hda6       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1" to "/dev/hda6       /               ext3    defaults 0       1" in /etc/fstab and rebooting
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: dual boot works fine.. many many people do it including myself
[04:46] <jake1> the login screen under options
[04:46] <sethk> kill4k1illin, which will already be there if both are installed.
[04:46] <jake1> just click that and select gnome
[04:47] <siegie> does anyone know a package for viewing, the leds of numlock caps lock on the gnome panel
wouldn't I have to format my drive (ie loose my data) to dual boot.
[04:47] <sh4dox> hi :D i think i screwed my ubuntu (at least for a little bit) :D when I go to system => log off, there only appear 5  buttons ... the log off and reboot buttons are gone :s can someone help me? :D
[04:47] <kill4k1illin> sethk, but how do i tell it to use gdm intead, or is there a way i can uninstall and then reinstall kdm?
[04:47] <kill4k1illin> i think it got messed up somehow
[04:47] <bilss_> sethk so in this case say the line is drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   60 2006-08-30 15:24 echolot how to change root to echolot for echolot dir?
[04:47] <MrFatJack> frogzoo: I think this is a known bug in compiz. thanks anyway.
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: No, just squeeze some free drive space for the installer to create the partition and the swap
[04:48] <sethk> kill4k1illin, you can uninstall, but it isn't necessary.  let me get the exact names for you
[04:48] <SiLV3R> NickRivers: i'll  try
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: How full is your hard drive
[04:48] <frogzoo> siegie: this should work: keybled - KDE keyboard LED applet
[04:48] <XXX-560558574040> helpp
[04:48] <manux> What kind of error is this when I try to Install madwifi: Makefile.inc:113: *** KERNELCONF: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/.config does not exist..  Stop.
[04:48] <manux>   ?
[04:48] <nlitement> hello! :)
[04:48] <XXX-560558574040> NO MP3 PLAY AT UBUNTU !!!
[04:48] <kill4k1illin> O.o
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> XXX-560558574040: dont yell
[04:48] <sethk> chown echolot:echolot  filename   (or dirname, exactly the same command for a file or a directory)
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> XXX-560558574040: Yes we can play mp3's
[04:49] <Soujirou7> full as in what? I have no "unallocated space" and otherwise it is maybe 50% full
[04:49] <siegie> frogzoo, that is a kde package?  i use gnome?
[04:49] <XXX-560558574040> no mp3 play at ubuntu drake
[04:49] <XXX-560558574040> any help?
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: do you have access to partition magic..
[04:49] <XXX-560558574040> any help ? no mp3 play
[04:49] <nlitement> I've quickly tried the faq, can someone tell me, does the standard ubuntu install cd include ftp/apache/php packets?
[04:49] <synic> XXX-560558574040: quit repeating yourself.
[04:49] <frogzoo> siegie: I haven't used it, but worth giving it a go
[04:49] <NickRivers> siegie: try installing gkrellm-leds
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: if not the installer can shrink your existing partition,
[04:49] <Soujirou7> um, not really
[04:49] <jake1> can someone tell me how to find out what driver my wireless card is using
[04:49] <frogzoo> !mp3 > XXX-560558574040
[04:49] <SiLV3R> NickRivers: still doesn't work to boot
[04:49] <jake1> and how to change it
[04:50] <bilss_> sethk; so in this case for the directory chown  echolot:echolot echolot?
[04:50] <operative> any explicit reason why libgtk2.0-dev shouldn't be able to install on dapper?
[04:50] <sethk> kill4k1illin, on my box the gdm link is a link to an empty file, and my kdm link is a link for the kdm start script.  you reverse that to get gdm instead of kdm
[04:50] <frogzoo> jake1: should be mentioned in /var/log/messages - you shouldn't need to change it really
[04:50] <NickRivers> SiLV3R: /dev/hda6 *is* an ext3 filesystem right?
[04:50] <Soujirou7> Ok, so about how much would you suggest for ubuntu?
[04:50] <kill4k1illin> :-/
[04:50] <siegie> NickRivers, gkrellm is not wat a want, i want it on the panel like i had in debian sarge keyboard-led-applet was it but it doesn't has newer versions for new gnome
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: the installer on the live cd will shrink your existing system and make room for dual system
[04:50] <nlitement> no answer?
[04:50] <sethk> bilss_, yes, to change the directory, but none of its contents, yes
[04:50] <manux> what kind of file is .config ?
[04:51] <kill4k1illin> can linux write to ntfs ok?
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[04:51] <operative> manux: ascii
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !fuse
[04:51] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:51] <nlitement> sigh..
[04:51] <sethk> kill4k1illin, no, still dangerous
[04:51] <SiLV3R> Nickriver: right
[04:51] <frogzoo> kill4k1illin: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:51] <Soujirou7> Will it configure it or will I have to monkey it so I can boot back into XP?
[04:51] <XXX-560558574040> Help ! no mp3 play ! AND Can't compile the Gambas and many other progrs
[04:51] <bilss_> sethk: and in the case of a file that directoiry as alex chown echolot echolot alex (the file name is alex in echolot dir)
[04:51] <kill4k1illin> frogzoo: yes i know i did that a few times and it doesnt help
[04:51] <sethk> nlitit doesn't work that way
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: it sets up grub and both systems
[04:51] <dfd> !mp3
[04:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:51] <synic> XXX-560558574040: you've already been answered.
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Soujirou7: from a menu
[04:52] <arno> ftp://83.157.181.153 could someone try again now? please
[04:52] <Soujirou7> ok
[04:52] <sethk> bilss_, if it's the current directory, yes
[04:52] <frogzoo> arno: nope
[04:52] <bilss_> sethk: must do it as root#
[04:52] <Hendriko> Hi, when preseeding ubuntu i have a problem. i get a hostname assigned via dhcp during boot. now the installer always shows me that name and i have to press return to commit it. is there a way to omit that?
[04:52] <arno> frogzoo : can you still ping?
[04:52] <Soujirou7> Is there a size requirement for ubuntu
[04:52] <jake1> none of these mention the driver
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> synic:  Some people can type but have hard time reading ")
[04:53] <jake1> just the status of eth2
[04:53] <sethk> bilss_, if root currently owns the file, yes
[04:53] <matthewf> how much of a pain in the arse woul installing Ubuntu on a system based on NForce4 Intel be (going to use VIA Audio and a Geforce 6200 for video mind you) ?
[04:53] <synic> Hendriko: just type in a new one
[04:53] <frogzoo> arno: you can use 'shields up' or similiar to check if your ftp port is contactable, that's step #1
[04:53] <NickRivers> siegie: try going to http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/x11/keyboard-led-applet and downloading and installing the .deb file
[04:53] <jake1> i want to know what driver eth2 uses
[04:53] <kill4k1illin> if i cant write to ntfs, is there a way that i can backup some stuff so i can just reformatt this partition?
[04:53] <bilss_> sethk yes root owns file and directory
[04:53] <erUSUL> !fuse
[04:53] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: have you run the live cd yet
[04:53] <sethk> jake1, try ifconfig -a
[04:53] <sethk> bilss_, ok, then yes, use sudo
[04:53] <frogzoo> arno: yes it pings - google 'shields up' so you can check yourself
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kill4k1illin: you can read ntfs with no problem
[04:54] <sethk> jake1, you can find out the type of hardware using lspci, also
[04:54] <Hendriko> synic, well its ok that i get a hostname and i want the system to take that hostname. what i do not wnat it to have to press a key during a preseeded install!
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kill4k1illin: you can burn dvd or cd
[04:54] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: no.. system isnt built yet... i have the choice of mobos as i have 2 spare ones .. an Intel 955x one and a NF4 Intel one
[04:54] <synic> Hendriko: ah
[04:54] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: the 955x may be a little... iffy tho, but the other one hasnt been used at all
[04:54] <jake1> sethk i know the hardware
[04:54] <synic> Hendriko: yeah, dunno, sorry
[04:55] <sethk> jake1, then what do you need?
[04:55] <kill4k1illin> Jack_Sparrow: i dont need to read ntfs, i need to write some of my files on my *nix partition to ntfs or some backup media. Is there a way to write a cd from terminal?
[04:55] <Hendriko> I have tried several settings in the preseed-file but that message does not go away :(
[04:55] <jake1> i plug in my wireless card and it works, i'm just curious which driver it works with
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: nforce4 is ok... just dont try to use the riad on it
[04:55] <sethk> jake1, lspci will show you the kernel modules
[04:55] <sethk> jake1, sorry, lsmod
[04:55] <jake1> but not the driver
[04:55] <NickRivers> SiLV3R: I'm stuck... dunno man - sorry :\
[04:56] <sethk> jake1, that is the driver
[04:56] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: it is the Intel version, and its ment to be a bit of a pain sometimes, but i think thats mosly for overlocking which this system wont be
[04:56] <NickRivers> kill4k1illin: if your linux partition is ext3 there is a freeware program that will let you read ext3 from windows
[04:56] <erUSUL> jake1: dmesg | grep eth2
[04:56] <kill4k1illin> NickRivers: what is it called, i need it
[04:56] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: Id use the 955x but i think i may have uh... abused it to much heh
[04:56] <siegie> NickRivers, i have tried it but it depens on libpanel-applet0 i have libpanel-applet2-0 installed but nothing
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I understand..
[04:56] <jake1> wow....... i've tried all these, and none of them say the driver to eth2
[04:57] <jake1> just it's status
[04:57] <jake1> and crap
[04:57] <jake1> like that
[04:57] <Soujirou7> Thanks Jack_sparrow :)
[04:57] <jake1> i need to know the driver in order to configure kismet
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> SiLV3R:  Are you still stuck trying to get hda6 to boot?
[04:57] <NickRivers> kill4k1illin: http://www.sharewareconnection.com/diskinternals-linux-reader.htm
[04:57] <sethk> jake1, the kernel modules _are_ the driver
[04:57] <frogzoo> Jack_Sparrow: which wireless card?
[04:57] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: so as far as your aware NF4 Intel should work (including SATA/IDE,Network etc) ?
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> frogzoo: ?
[04:58] <frogzoo> jake1: which wireless card (soz Jack_Sparrow)
[04:58] <erUSUL> jake1: what chip uses the card?
[04:58] <kill4k1illin> thank you all, and goodbye for a little while
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:58] <jake1> it's a Lucent Technologies
[04:58] <jake1> Silver
[04:58] <jake1> 802.11b
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf:  you can look up the other hardware info.. since that is not wireless it should be ok
[04:58] <dverzolla> What is the lattest version of mythweb?
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[04:58] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:59] <jake1> now the back of the card has big writing that says ORINOCO
[04:59] <jake1> but i'm curious... if i type in 'iwconfig' under eth2
[04:59] <erUSUL> jake1: then you know it. it uses the orinoco driver
[05:00] <jake1> but... if i type in iwconfig it says under nickname: HERMES
[05:00] <jake1> which is a driver isn't it?
[05:00] <jake1> well it says HERMS I
[05:00] <jake1> HERMES I*
[05:00] <SiLV3R> Jack_Sparrow: still stuck :(
[05:00] <erUSUL> jake1: lsmod | grep orinoco
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> SiLV3R: have you browsed to see if it looks like all your stuff is still in there?
[05:01] <frogzoo> jake1: sudo lspci |grep -i wireless
[05:02] <SiLV3R> i didn't look exactly if there is everything still availabe but i accessed my home dir and there still was everything
[05:02] <jake1> frogzoo that told me my internal wireless card
[05:02] <jake1> not my pcmcia card
[05:03] <frogzoo> jake1: cardctl ident
[05:03] <AsadR> is it ok to ask for help with firestarter?   firestarter refuses to run dhcpd by itself, I have to start it manually otherwise it tries to configure interfaces on which dhcp is not supposed to listen on
[05:03] <jake1> nope just names the card and tells me who manufactured it
[05:03] <jake1> whatever
[05:03] <jake1> probably orinoco
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> SiLV3R:  here is one option.. http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html  super grub reapir... I wonder is fsck on hda6 would help... ask rivers
[05:04] <AsadR> and is Rythmbox supposed to play mp3s out of the boxc?
[05:04] <erUSUL> jake1: lsmod | grep orinoco <-- if this outputs anything orinoco is the driver
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[05:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:04] <jake1> at any rate..... how do i configure Kismet to use the orinoco driver
[05:04] <jake1> where is the kismet.conf file
[05:04] <zielonka> hello
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[05:05] <jake1> erUSUL: yep it's the orinoco driver then
[05:05] <frogzoo> jake1: http://www.kismetwireless.net/Forum/Equipment/Messages/1149856224.2339339
[05:06] <zielonka> exit
[05:06] <frogzoo> jake1: /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[05:06] <keescook> is launchpad down?
[05:06] <keescook> hiay ScislaC
[05:07] <ScislaC> hi keescook!
[05:10] <WARlrus> Hi, I'm having problems with a USB Wireless Network Adaptor, whenever I try to enable it, it says "Activating interface rausb0" and freezes
[05:10] <ScislaC> anyone have any pointers to good documentation about recovering files/directories from "lost+found"? google and ubuntuforums haven't turned up much for me
[05:12] <WARlrus> can anyone help me with the USB Wireless problem? ^^
[05:12] <WARlrus> please - I'm getting rather desperate
[05:13] <Masqy> Has someone comiled ffmpeg here? which source did you use? (It is a stop towards VLC on my ubuntu, trying to get WMV3 formats to show some video)
[05:13] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone here have experience with mencoder, I'm trying to crop and resize a movie.
[05:14] <_lupine> WARlus: are you using the native driver?
[05:14] <_lupine> And if so, how up to date is it?
[05:14] <JackMacOKC> WARlrus: from my experience, usb wireless is hit and miss in ubuntu. most people i've tried to help with it have never got it working. what adapter do you have?
[05:14] <_lupine> JackMacOKC: I've got one of those, and they work well
[05:14] <_lupine> just slightly tempermental - the drivers are still beta
[05:14] <JackMacOKC> _lupine: hence the phrase, hit and miss
[05:14] <_lupine> hehe
[05:15] <WARlrus> I have a Belkin one
[05:15] <WARlrus> I just plugged it in, and Ubuntu is recognising it
[05:15] <_lupine> rausb0 is a certain chipset, with a certain driver - so dont' worry about that too much
[05:16] <_lupine> ah; yes, if you've got a driver included with Ubuntu, it's bound to be well out of date
[05:16] <kikko> do dapper kernels have himem support?
[05:16] <_lupine> Do you have any experience with compiling kernel modules?
[05:16] <_lupine> kikko: 4GB I think
[05:16] <_lupine> more if you're running amd64
[05:16] <_lupine> (assuming you're using himem in the DOS sense)
[05:17] <Ricesteam> what is the difference between i386 vs i686?
[05:17] <WARlrus> no, I've never compiled a kernel module before
[05:17] <JackMacOKC> i686 is optimized for pentium 4s
[05:17] <graveson> what decoder do i need to play .mov files
[05:17] <_lupine> WARlus: OK, and are you just using the default kernel?
[05:17] <JackMacOKC> graveson: quicktime
[05:17] <fijam> JackMacOKC: for PIII and up
[05:17] <_lupine>  (run uname -r and report the output if you're not sure)
[05:17] <kikko> _lupine,  do I have to compile a custom kernel if I have 6GB of RAM  (32bit intel)
[05:17] <_lupine> kikko: probably
[05:18] <_lupine> the default is 4GB support
[05:18] <kikko> dang :\
[05:18] <_lupine> not hard :)
[05:18] <JackMacOKC> fijam: true
[05:18] <Ricesteam> would there be noticable differences if I update to i686 from i386 since I'm using a P4?
[05:18] <_lupine> just get the sources, run "make oldconfig", then change that one option and make
[05:18] <fijam> Ricesteam: there will be
[05:18] <_lupine> Ricesteam: possibly not
[05:18] <fijam> Ricesteam: quite noticable
[05:18] <JackMacOKC> Ricesteam: should be, its worth it to upgrade
[05:18] <WARlrus> I'm just rebooting the machine after another attempt, give me a second and I'll run that command
[05:18] <_lupine> ok
[05:19] <MrZaius> what's the new gpm package?
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Ricesteam: very little difference, I have both kernels available in my meun
[05:19] <Ricesteam> I don't want to reinstall Ubuntu and all the other apps I got working...
[05:19] <_lupine> Ubuntu are considering scrapping the divergent architectures, since the developers aren't seeing much (subjective) difference
[05:19] <MrZaius> or rather, how do you get gpm installed in dapper?
[05:19] <_lupine> best bet is to run a few benchmarks and see what you get on your machine
[05:19] <MrZaius> libgpmg says it's installed, but it can't find an installation candidate for 'gpm'
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Ricesteam: First of all you really need a backup... no matter what OS... and you can add a 686 along with the running 386
[05:20] <_lupine> No need to reinstall to change the kernel, though
[05:20] <Ricesteam> Thanks. I think I'm just going to leave it as i386 for now since everything is working fine now.  I'll opt to upgrade if I'm forced to reinstall my OS
[05:21] <JackMacOKC> Ricesteam: thats usually fine. i've found that upgrading is really only beneficial if you have hyperthreaded or dual core processors
[05:21] <WARlrus> 2.6.15-26-386 - thats the output I got
[05:21] <fijam> c'mon it's not that dangerous
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Ricesteam: I was expecting more of a difference...
[05:21] <_lupine> WARlus: cool. I've got an easy route for you then
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Ricesteam: and I am running ht/dual
[05:21] <WARlrus> woo, I like them
[05:21] <fernando_> Hi, all. I have a problem with cups http print. I receive a message "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed". Someone can help ?
[05:21] <MrZaius> only reall see it when everything is compiled in an architecture specific way
[05:21] <[g2] > in 6.06.01 from the livecd using the persistent option is there a way to get it to recognize /dev/hda6 ?
[05:21] <WARlrus> :) thanks, what is it?
[05:22] <_lupine> Go to http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386
[05:22] <MrZaius> google for gentoo/ubuntu benchmarks
[05:22] <MrZaius> but it's not that big a deal
[05:22] <_lupine> You'll find a load of .deb files
[05:22] <JackMacOKC> Jack_Sparrow: well it depends on what you're doing. you're not going to see a differnce if all you do is surf the web
[05:22] <_lupine> You want to download ralink-config*.deb (should only be one of them)
[05:22] <WARlrus> yeah found that
[05:22] <WARlrus> what do I do with it then?
[05:22] <_lupine> You also want one of the ralink-drivers-2.6.15-26-386 .debs
[05:23] <MrZaius> huh....
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> JackMacOKC: The most intensive cpu programs I have... are the screensavers
[05:23] <_lupine> Choose the one with the most recent date
[05:23] <WARlrus> okay
[05:23] <JackMacOKC> Jack_Sparrow: well there ya go ;)
[05:23] <MrZaius> why on earth would gpm be in universe and not main?
[05:23] <fijam> Jack_Sparrow: :D
[05:23] <_lupine> Now you install them. Really simple - in terminal, "sudo dpkg -i <deb-file>"
[05:23] <graveson> i want to install totem-xine and i notice ubuntu-desktop is going to be remove,this is going to cause other issues right ?
[05:23] <user__> helo?
[05:23] <_lupine> Or if you  right-click on them, there might even be a menu option
[05:23] <earthian> how to set up a PPPoE broadband internet connection with adsl modem without internet ??
[05:23] <WARlrus> okay, but how can I transfer them onto my computer running Ubuntu
[05:23] <earthian> i mean without internet access etm
[05:23] <WARlrus> I'm on a different PC atm
[05:23] <fijam> yes, user__ >
[05:23] <user__> can i qeust here me problems :D?
[05:24] <_lupine> WARlus: USB drive?
[05:24] <WARlrus> ah yeah ;)
[05:24] <_lupine> :)
[05:24] <WARlrus> you'll have to talk me through the right command to run
[05:24] <WARlrus> one sec, I'll transfer them first
[05:24] <user__> fijan?
[05:24] <_lupine> np
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[05:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:24] <user__> where i can found me installed programs!??!?!?!
[05:24] <fijam> earthian: what modem?
[05:24] <fijam> user__: hello :)
[05:24] <_lupine>  graveson: shouldn't be a problem. just make sure that you re-install ubuntu-desktop before you upgrade to edgy
[05:25] <earthian> dsl modem connected to computer through a lan cable
[05:25] <Alex_-_> Does anyone know why when I type an address in opera, it opens up whatever address I typed in Firefox and leaves the opera window blank?
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> user__: what did you install and how did you install it
[05:25] <cliffd> can I just say I went from being so so about ubuntu to loving it in less then 10 seconds... Ive tried most other distros gentoo, FC, suse, debian, and slackware and none of them supported my bluetooth mouse out of the box. all required a kernel patch and lots of mucking with the xorg.conf. but ubuntu.... just worked (I can belive it) no wonder so many people are converts.
[05:25] <_lupine> (presumably, totem-xine conflicts with a dependency of ubuntu-desktop, which is being removed)
[05:25] <fijam> earthian: what company/model
[05:25] <fijam> user__ what do you mean?
[05:25] <AstralJava> _lupine: I understood that update-manager -d fixes that problem, no?
[05:25] <earthian> ericsson
[05:25] <earthian> some old crap
[05:25] <_lupine> I have no idea - what on earth is update-manager? ;)
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> AlexWow, that is a great Opear feature... they finally got smart
[05:26] <WineO> Anyone know how (if possible) to migrate Thunderbird files (mail, contacts, folders) to Evolution?
[05:26] <fernando_> Someone can help about "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" at http print in cups ?
[05:26] <user__> :( im an new ubuntu user, and if i install something, i dont know wherei can find it back :(
[05:26] <sh4dox> hi :D i think i screwed my ubuntu (at least for a little bit) :D when I go to system => log off, there only appear 5  buttons ... the log off and reboot buttons are gone :s can someone help me? :D
[05:26] <_lupine> Alex: Check your MIME types
[05:26] <graveson> _lupine: sorry for my ignorance but what is edgy ?
[05:26] <fijam> earthian: not good. You will have to google thoroughly for a firmware for it
[05:26] <_lupine> next version of Ubuntu - 6.10
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[05:26] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:26] <_lupine> !edgy
[05:26] <_lupine> snap :)
[05:26] <fijam> earthian: your ISP may also provide some kind of instruction
[05:26] <user__> :( im an new ubuntu user, and if i install something, i dont know wherei can find it back :(
[05:26] <user__> :( im an new ubuntu user, and if i install something, i dont know wherei can find it back :(
[05:26] <_lupine> user_: look in synaptic
[05:26] <StephenL> !schedule
[05:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> user__: what did you install and how did you install it
[05:27] <fijam> user__: What did you install?
[05:27] <tmcm> hello.
[05:27] <fernando_> hello
[05:27] <fijam> hello
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> hello
[05:27] <tmcm> i installed the last round of changes from the updates and now
[05:27] <JackMacOKC> hello?
[05:27] <manux> Anyone has got the surecom pcmcia wireless?
[05:27] <fernando_> My problem is "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" with cups.
[05:27] <AstralJava> _lupine: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14
[05:27] <m_0_r_0_n> where do I find the messages of the last boot process
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> user__: That is not a hard question...
[05:27] <user__> jack_sparrow: i installed wine, with synaptic !
[05:27] <user__> jack_sparrow: i installed wine, with synaptic !
[05:27] <user__> jack_sparrow: i installed wine, with synaptic !
[05:27] <JackMacOKC> m_0_r_0_n: dmesg
[05:28] <tmcm> i installed the last round of xorg changes from the automatic updates and now my x server won't start
[05:28] <tmcm> any ideas?
[05:28] <_lupine> it'll be listed in synaptioc then
[05:28] <fernando_> In Debian I can print normally in http://10.10.0.75:631/printers/hp820, but not with Kubuntu 6.06
[05:28] <_lupine> presumably, you're looking for a menu icon - there isn't one
[05:28] <cliffd> can somone tell me about upgrades, when Edgy becomes the stable version, will I be able to do an inline/inplace upgrade or will I need to re install?
[05:28] <user__> jack_sparrow: i installed wine, with synaptic !
[05:28] <JackMacOKC> user__: yes, we heard you the 1st time
[05:28] <_lupine> cliffd: should be able to just upgrade
[05:28] <user__> jack_sparrow: sorry
[05:29] <fijam> user__: Try running a termianl and typing wine
[05:29] <AstralJava> cliffd: You can, with update-manager or aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:29] <_lupine> assuming you haven't broken your install too badly ;)
[05:29] <WARlrus> sorry _lupin, having problems with my USB ports, I've only got 2 lol. I'm almost done transferring those files
[05:29] <JackMacOKC> tmcm, you need to update your repos and download the newer version to fix xorg
[05:30] <AnotherAlex> I'm so confused.
[05:30] <earthian> \o/
[05:30] <earthian> grub loading
[05:30] <_lupine> np
[05:30] <earthian> and then error 2
[05:30] <tmcm> i'm running ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS and i have an nvidia geforce fx 5200
[05:30] <user__> fijam what means  termial? or what u say
[05:30] <cliffd> _lupine AstralJava: so once its out if im up to date with my system ill roll over into edgy?
[05:30] <earthian> fuck that i am goind back to windoze :((((
[05:30] <earthian> too much of a pain for a stupid install
[05:30] <fijam> user__: I made a typ. termianal
[05:30] <_lupine> cliffd: yes
[05:30] <fijam> *typo
[05:30] <tmcm> JackMacOKC: what should i update them to?
[05:30] <cliffd> _lupine: thanks much.
[05:30] <kodute> anyone tried to run Ultramonkey or Heartbeat on ubuntu?
[05:30] <zmo> hi
[05:30] <AnotherAlex> can someone tell me why when i type an address in opera, it opens the address i typed in firefox, and leaves the opera window blank?
[05:30] <JackMacOKC> tmcm, there was a stick about this for awhile. let me get the info for you again
[05:30] <zmo> I just installed ubuntu on my new box
[05:31] <synic> kodute: I am using heartbeat
[05:31] <synic> er... was, for drbd
[05:31] <zmo> and I discovered I bought a ATI (don't care much about hardware)
[05:31] <_lupine>  AnotherAlex: check your MIME types
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> user__: there is a channel called #wine for more info
[05:31] <_lupine> presumably, Opera isn't the default application
[05:31] <zmo> are there proprietary drivers installable from apt ?
[05:31] <zmo> where shall I RTFM about that ?
[05:31] <_lupine> zmo: linux-restricted-drivers package
[05:31] <WARlrus> okay, I have those 2 files on the desktop, how do I go about running them?
[05:31] <_lupine> s/drivers/modules
[05:31] <zmo> _lupine - thanks
[05:31] <AstralJava> zmo: apt-cache search fglrx
[05:31] <_lupine> WARlus: if you right-click, there might be an option to install them
[05:31] <zmo> any link to good RTFM ?
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[05:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:32] <_lupine> if not, then open a terminal window and cd to your desktop
[05:32] <JackMacOKC> tmcm: you want xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[05:32] <zmo> thanks you all
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:32] <kodute> synic: i tried to install it but i had missing lib files. and couldn't get the correct ones from apt-get
[05:32] <JackMacOKC> tmcm: if you apt-get udpate, you should see that version out there now and be able to pull it in to fix xserver
[05:33] <WARlrus> Yeah, found that option :) I'll install then get back to you ;)
[05:33] <_lupine> ok
[05:33] <samuelbarrett> hi all im new
[05:33] <fijam> hello samuelbarrett
[05:33] <StephenL> Anyone know of a good guide for pam_mount?  I keep getting the error pam_mount: bad number of args for volume
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Welcome
[05:33] <samuelbarrett> hi
[05:34] <WARlrus> okay, I've done that
[05:34] <slaxy> hi guys
[05:34] <samuelbarrett> i used to use pclinuos but when i upgraded it had to many problems
[05:34] <WARlrus> do I reboot now?
[05:34] <fijam> hello slaxy
[05:34] <_lupine> WARlus: no need
[05:34] <_lupine> first, make sure the rausb0 interface is DOWN
[05:34] <fernando_> quit
[05:34] <WARlrus> :D I'll give it a go now then
[05:34] <WARlrus> okay...
[05:34] <_lupine> then "sudo rmmod rt2570"
[05:34] <ScislaC> anyone know how to view the contents of a directory that is in lost+found?
[05:34] <_lupine> then "sudo modprobe rausb0"
[05:35] <_lupine> erm, "sudo modprobe rt2570"
[05:35] <_lupine> d'oh
[05:35] <slaxy> i was planning to download and install KDE with ubuntu .... where do i start ??
[05:35] <_lupine> After that, run "sudo rutilt"
[05:35] <erUSUL> !kubuntu
[05:35] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[05:35] <WARlrus> lol okay, just give me a second!
[05:35] <_lupine> slaxy: start with kubuntu-desktop
[05:35] <_lupine> snap :)
[05:35] <erUSUL> !kubuntu > slaxy
[05:35] <_lupine> NP WARlrus
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> ScislaC: have you tried gksudo nautilus
[05:36] <tmcm> JackMacOKC: thank you very much
[05:36] <tmcm> that fixed the problem
[05:36] <JackMacOKC> tmcm: good deal
[05:36] <tmcm> bye
[05:36] <AnotherAlex> ok, i feel dumb- that was easy
[05:36] <AnotherAlex> thanks _lupine
[05:37] <_lupine> np
[05:37] <slaxy> well i dont want to install Kubuntu.... since i already have ubuntu... anyway.. starting kubuntu-desktop means... kde should already be available .. as far as my info goes, it is not there in my ubuntu.. also as far as i know.. i need to download kde.. and how do i do the whole thing...
[05:38] <ScislaC> Jack_Sparrow: the problem is actually SPECIFICALLY that my gksudo command doesn't work, and I think that the dir that is in lost+found may be the reason :)  (It was working, had a power failure, had to manually run fsck, now gksudo fails to do anything or throw any errors)
[05:38] <fijam> slaxy: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:38] <JackMacOKC> slaxy: installing kubuntu-desktop installs the core kde components
[05:38] <WARlrus> Critical error: Can't find "adhocmode" private ioctl. Code: 158
[05:38] <WARlrus> I get that error when running sudo rutilt
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ScislaC: how about sudo  ... same thing
[05:38] <seatouch> hi can anyone tell e how to change the broadcasting ip of a interface?
[05:39] <erUSUL> ScislaC: maybe fsck could only recover the dir but not its contents :(
[05:39] <slaxy> thx fijam, JackMacOKC ... how do i change the gui to kubuntu
[05:39] <erUSUL> seatouch: ifconfig ?
[05:39] <_lupine> hmm. OK, rmmod the rt2570 module again
[05:39] <seatouch> erUSUL,  yeah
[05:39] <ScislaC> Jack_Sparrow: just did that :) thanks for the pointer
[05:39] <JackMacOKC> slaxy: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:39] <seatouch> erUSUL, i tried with ifconfig eth1:2 -broadcast 1.1.1.1
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:39] <_lupine> then run "find /lib/`uname -r` -name rt2570"
[05:39] <seatouch> erUSUL,  as ip changes the broadcasting ip changes
[05:39] <seatouch> erUSUL,  i dont want that to happen
[05:39] <ScislaC> erUSUL: and it looks like you're correct... it does have the dir, no contents though :(
[05:40] <_lupine> erm, find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name rt257
[05:40] <fijam> slaxy: when you install kubuntu-desktop and reboot you will be able to choose kubuntu at the login screen
[05:40] <jrib> slaxy: at the login screen you can click on options on the bottom left of the screen and select your window manager
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ScislaC: sudo nautilus --no-desktop/media   is a better choice
[05:40] <_lupine> erm, find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name rt2570.ko
[05:40] <_lupine> sorry
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ScislaC: a little safer
[05:40] <_lupine> brain freeze there!
[05:42] <RMorris85> can u change from ubuntu to kubuntu ?
[05:42] <WARlrus> okay, that seemed to work
[05:42] <jrib> RMorris85: you can install the kubuntu-desktop package to get kubuntu as well as ubuntu
[05:42] <_lupine> WARlus: did it list one or two files?
[05:42] <WARlrus> it found the file
[05:42] <erUSUL> seatouch: maybe the broadcast adress you try is incompatible with the ip adress iirc they are closely related (google for ip calculator)
[05:42] <fijam> RMorris85: yes
[05:43] <WARlrus> one
[05:43] <RMorris85> how hard is it?
[05:43] <RMorris85> what do i have to do?
[05:43] <seatouch> erUSUL,  yeah might be
[05:43] <_lupine> erUSUL: www.dnsstuff.com is great for that sort of thing :)
[05:43] <WineO> How do I make iptables start and load a saved (iptables-save) config at startup?
[05:43] <_lupine> iptables-restore
[05:43] <fijam> RMorris85: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <jrib> RMorris85: 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop' in a terminal, done
[05:43] <fijam> RMorris85: pleasent and easy
[05:43] <anthony> heya I'm trying to install a canon iP1500 using this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56725&highlight=ip1500 , only the first link is broken! can anyone link me to an update for libc6 ?
[05:43] <_lupine> WARlus: not very good :(. Is it an ad-hoc network you're trying to connect to ?
[05:43] <fijam> jrib: we are answering simultanously :)
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> WineO: I would use one of the firewall managers like firestarter or guarddog
[05:44] <WineO> _lupine: right, but how to make it happen automatically?
[05:44] <erUSUL> seatouch: http://jodies.de/ipcalc?host=10.0.0.1&mask1=24&mask2=
[05:44] <WARlrus> erm what do you mean by "ad-hoc"?
[05:44] <WARlrus> its just an open network
[05:44] <WARlrus> that is used by some other PC's on a network (all windows)
[05:44] <samuelbarrett> where are the cookies kept in ubuntu?
[05:44] <_lupine> WineO: stick it in /etc/rc?.d somewhere
[05:44] <seatouch> thanks
[05:44] <_lupine> WARlrus: ok try a reboot (ack)
[05:44] <fijam> samuelbarrett: it depends on browser, I think
[05:44] <WARlrus> okay
[05:44] <ScislaC> now that's weird... so, none of my apps from the administration menu will launch, but if I type the commands that the shortcuts store in a terminal window, they launch fine... anyone know why that would be?
[05:44] <samuelbarrett> im using firefox
[05:45] <erUSUL> samuelbarrett: if you use ff under ~/.mozilla/firefox/ afaik
[05:45] <_lupine> possible that *something* is out of date
[05:45] <WARlrus> well I can't update anything until connected on that PC
[05:45] <WARlrus> vicious circle
[05:45] <yoshiznit123> hey everyone, i'm trying to mount an ext3 partition on /media/data and it keeps saying " /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/share busy" although I know its not mounted...?
[05:46] <_lupine> WARlrus: it should "just work"
[05:46] <erUSUL> yoshiznit123: /media/share and /media/data are not the same
[05:46] <_lupine> bit of a PITA if it doesn't
[05:46] <fijam> yoshiznit123: you sure it does not get mounted automagically somewhere else?
[05:47] <subpar> is it possible to run amarok in gnome?
[05:47] <fijam> subpar: why not?
[05:47] <_lupine> subpar: yes
[05:47] <erUSUL> subpar: yes
[05:47] <yoshiznit123> erUSUL, oops, i'm trying to mount both /media/data and /media/share and both don't work :-(
[05:47] <subpar> hm
[05:47] <jrib> subpar: yes
[05:47] <yoshiznit123> fijam, no I don't think so, its not in mtab or /proc/mounts
[05:47] <AstralJava> subpar: Sure is, but when installing it will pull some needed kde libraries.
[05:47] <_lupine> but it means you'll need to load all the KDE libraries as well
[05:47] <subpar> right
[05:47] <_lupine> (bit of a performance hit, but not too bad)
[05:47] <fijam> yoshiznit123: ok
[05:47] <WARlrus> okay, I've rebooted
[05:47] <_lupine> plus it'll look a bit out of place ;)
[05:47] <WARlrus> should I try activating?
[05:47] <anthony> heya I'm trying to install a canon iP1500 using this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56725&highlight=ip1500 , only the first link is broken! can anyone link me to an update for libc6 ?
[05:48] <_lupine> OK, is the rt2570 module loaded? (lsmod)
[05:48] <subpar> AstralJava: right, I installed kdelibs and amarok, but when I run amarok it sends me load way up
[05:48] <WARlrus> how do I check that?
[05:48] <_lupine> run lsmod
[05:48] <_lupine> look for rt2570 in the list
[05:48] <_lupine> (near the top usually)
[05:48] <_lupine> amarok is a busy app. anyway
[05:48] <_lupine> what sort of load are we talking?
[05:48] <AstralJava> subpar: I remember once trying it and it consumed an awful lot of resources...
[05:49] <erUSUL> WARlrus: lsmod | grep rt2570 works equally well
[05:49] <subpar> oh, so I should just tough it out
[05:49] <AstralJava> subpar: If you insist on running it. :)
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: there must be something wrong with that package if they pulled it
[05:49] <WARlrus> nope, its not there
[05:49] <_lupine> WARlrus: ok modprobe it
[05:50] <_lupine> (so sudo modprobe rt2570)
[05:50] <subpar> heh
[05:50] <subpar> thanks :)
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: It was marked as testing.. use at your own risk etc..
[05:50] <_lupine> then check lsmod again (as erUSUL pointed out, | grep rt2570 works)
[05:50] <fijam> yoshiznit123: what is the excatc command you use for mounting?
[05:50] <yoshiznit123> hmm, fijam, the thing is when i do "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1" it says "/dev/hdb1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!"
[05:50] <yoshiznit123> fijam, "sudo mount /dev/hdb1"
[05:50] <WARlrus> okay
[05:50] <_lupine> My amarokapp is using... 10% of my RAM (so 51.2M), and 4% of CPU (so 175mhz)
[05:50] <AstralJava> subpar: I'm not of course sure whether they could be done something about it, who knows. I never cared much for it anyhow...
[05:50] <yoshiznit123> and it's already in fstab...
[05:51] <jbroome> On the server install, am i missing something, or are the headers for the installed kernel not available
[05:51] <fijam> yoshiznit123: if it is in fstab it could be mounted automatically
[05:51] <yoshiznit123> fijam, this might be a bug with the installer? i just installed with the new dapper cd, this didn't happen before (it's the alternate cd, and i chose different mount points from the installer...)
[05:52] <WARlrus> yes, its there now
[05:52] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, yeah, I'm a little scared!  I've tried to install this sodding thing many times, and I have to say, if I can't print, no more linux for me I'm afraid :(
[05:52] <fijam> yoshiznit123: very strange
[05:52] <_lupine> ok, try sudo rutilt again
[05:52] <WARlrus> same error
[05:52] <RMorris85> after i do the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop what do i have to do to get to kubutu?
[05:52] <yoshiznit123> fijam, can you check the permissions of folders in your /media?
[05:53] <_lupine>  WARlrus: very strange... ok, can you bring the interface up in the usual manner?
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: If you chose your OS based on your printer... good luck...  I shelved my cannon to run a better OS
[05:53] <WARlrus> the network interface?
[05:53] <_lupine> yes
[05:53] <WARlrus> okay
[05:53] <_lupine> so sudo ifup -a (if it's in /etc/network/interfaces)
[05:53] <fijam> yoshiznit123: on hdd, which are FAT I have 777
[05:53] <_lupine> or just ifconfig rausb0 up
[05:54] <_lupine> (++sudo)
[05:54] <yoshiznit123> ok thanks, hmm i think i'll look around for a while
[05:55] <WARlrus> YES! ITS NOT CRASHING!
[05:55] <WARlrus> its activated!
[05:55] <_lupine> w00t :)
[05:55] <WARlrus> moment of truth, will it load internet
[05:55] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Log out, and choose kdm or Kubuntu or whatever it is called in the options.
[05:55] <WARlrus> OMG IT WORKS!
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[05:56] <WARlrus> _lupine - I could kiss you :D
[05:56] <AustLaw`> is there a website with a lot of gnome themes somewhere?
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> gnome-look.org
[05:56] <WARlrus> thank you so so so so much man!
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> 1 in 10 dont work
[05:56] <_lupine> right, so at a consultancy rate of 8000/hr, I think that's about 600 ;)
[05:56] <_lupine> j/k
[05:56] <WARlrus> I think this is the point I run ;P
[05:56] <_lupine> Glad you got it working.
[05:56] <WARlrus> Thank you so much :)
[05:56] <_lupine> You'll need to update the ralink-drivers deb every time you update the kernel
[05:56] <constantine-xvi> beagle is not searching my stuff
[05:57] <WARlrus> Off that site you gave me?
[05:57] <_lupine> I'll be trying to keep the "repo" up to date
[05:57] <_lupine> yes
[05:57] <WARlrus> Okay, thank you :) I will bookmark it
[05:57] <_lupine> if the site dies for whatever reason, though, you'll need to compile your own...
[05:57] <RMorris85> i get an error when i do the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:57] <WARlrus> Well I'll cross that bridge when and if I come to it ;)
[05:57] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, I've had SO many problems with linux.  I've written them all down and I'll link to them when I give up.  then I'll try using Ubuntu is a couple of years time, when (hopefully) it has more support for all my stuff
[05:57] <_lupine> ...the site for the source code is http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com
[05:57] <WARlrus> okay, thanks :)
[05:58] <_lupine> might as well bookmark that too
[05:58] <fijam> RMorris85: what error?
[05:58] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Which kind of an error would that be?
[05:58] <RMorris85> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[05:58] <RMorris85> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[05:58] <RMorris85> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[05:58] <RMorris85> or been moved out of Incoming.
[05:58] <martii> anyone noticed problem with ubuntu and matrox g550? agp?
[05:58] <WARlrus> Thanks once again :)
[05:58] <brucedes> Just installed ppc ubuntu, but it never asked me what root password I want to use, so whats the default one?
[05:58] <constantine-xvi> i can not get beagle to search my documents
[05:58] <WARlrus> and let the hours of Ubuntu fun begin!!!
[05:58] <RMorris85> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:58] <RMorris85>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: language-selector-qt but it is not going to be installed
[05:58] <RMorris85> E: Broken packages
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: good luck with that philosophy...
[05:58] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, mind you, most of the stuff is not hardware-support-related, more trying-to-get-linux-to-work-related
[05:58] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, you think it' bad?
[05:59] <WineO> Is it possible to install ubuntu on a new drive and partition with LVM?
[05:59] <fijam> RMorris85: it should work anyway
[05:59] <user__> ok someome get help me??
[05:59] <user__> plz private chat
[05:59] <cliffd> WineO: use the alternate CD
[05:59] <npster> What is a good disassembler decomplier for linux that supports lot of languages and binary files such as .exe ?
[06:00] <user__> some can help me
[06:00] <wozniak> has anyone heard of a system crash while using firefox, but only on a wireless connection?
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: You already said if you cant get your printer to work you will be going back to windows..
[06:00] <jrib> RMorris85: what command gave you that error?  Also, please post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link
[06:00] <brucedes> user: no, not at all, thats why we're all in support channel :P
[06:00] <RMorris85> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:00] <jrib> user__: what is your question?
[06:00] <WineO> cliffd: does that support AMD64?
[06:00] <_lupine> wozniak: most likely the driver is crashing and burning under load, causing the kernel to die as well
[06:00] <_lupine> try a driver update
[06:00] <_lupine> driver==kernel module, of course
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: Basing your choince of OS on a printer that costs little more than the ink cartridges inside it does not make sense
[06:01] <zmo> re
[06:01] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Please do as jrib suggested, I suspect you're using a mirror which isn't working at the moment. This package is in main, so it should just work(tm).
[06:01] <wozniak> lupine: im slighty new, can you get me started on that?
[06:01] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, and then retrying linux in a couple of years
[06:01] <cliffd> WineO: yes
[06:01] <_lupine> ok, do you know what chipset your card is?
[06:01] <brucedes> Does anyone know why the search bar in Firefox doesn't work? I hit enter and it doesn't search (using ppc btw)
[06:01] <cliffd> WineO: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.06/ at the bottom
[06:01] <RMorris85> uh, i have a problem, theres only three things in there.
[06:01] <jrib> !easysource > RMorris85
[06:02] <_lupine> if not, just pastebin the contents of the terminal command "lsmod" while the wireless interface is up
[06:02] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, why would I buy a new printer if I can use this one with windows?! one option is free, the other not
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: You will spend more on anti-vir and anti-spyware and anti-ad-ware than you paid for that printer
[06:02] <wozniak> lupine: what does that even mean
[06:02] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, nope it's all free through my uni at the moment
[06:02] <wozniak> lupine: and no, i don t k now the chipset of my wireless
[06:03] <zmo> I got a dualcore 64bits AMD processor, and I'm not sure what the right thing to do. Right know I'm on a fresh ubuntu 6.06.1 install for 32bits... Can I, based on this install, recompile the kernel in 64bits and the few software I like to have optimized, or will I get into trouble mixing 64/42 bits codes ?
[06:03] <mcphail> zmo: you need a fresh install to go from 32 to 64bit
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: Good to know our tax dollars are helping
[06:03] <_lupine> wozniak: open up a terminal window, and type "lsmod"
[06:03] <Glombool> can anyone tell me where to get a version of libxine that will play commercial dvds?
[06:03] <_lupine> then copy and paste the output into...
[06:03] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, I'd by paying them anyway....... :P
[06:04] <jrib> !dvd > Glombool
[06:04] <_lupine> !pastebin
[06:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:04] <Glombool> !dvd
[06:04] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:04] <zmo> mcphail - well, I've been told that ubuntu 64bits is not as good as the 32bits version
[06:04] <zmo> (based on friends experience...)
[06:04] <jbroome> but it has more bits!
[06:04] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, sorry missread - I'm in the UK, and I pay for the stuff idirectly through uni
[06:04] <Glombool> thnx
[06:04] <mcphail> zmo: the 32 bit version will offer the easiest user experience
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: They pay or you pay.. someone pays...
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: It is just silly to chose an OS based on a used printer
[06:05] <fijam> kind of true
[06:05] <zmo> mcphail - well, my point is not about easy or not, but about not loosing time doing unuseful stuff
[06:05] <RMorris85> i regenerated my source list and it gave me the same error as before... :-/
[06:05] <wozniak> lupine: can you tell me what to look for here?
[06:05] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, it's not just the printer though.  how do I send you a file?
[06:05] <Redrose> Ok, i've tried getting freecycle, but it failed, can anyone name a garageband look alike that's in the apt repo?
[06:06] <Redrose> !repo
[06:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:06] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, (an odt of my problems so you can see what I've been through!)
[06:06] <mr_smeega1> i am trying to launch evolution in dapper drake it just hangs at :~$ evolution
[06:06] <mr_smeega1> CalDAV Eplugin starting up .
[06:06] <mr_smeega1> any ideas
[06:06] <brucedes> does anyone know a good m4a codec that'll work with banshee?
[06:06] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Did you do apt-get update?
[06:06] <mr_smeega1> how do i remove that eplugin
[06:06] <RMorris85> i can
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony: This is NOT the place for this discussion, this is a place for people to get help with an OS they want to use. You have made up your mind...  Enjoy your choice as I will enjoy mine
[06:07] <mr_smeega1> anyone
[06:07] <anthony> Jack_Sparrow, you are of course right.  My apologies.
[06:07] <mr_smeega1> :~$ evolution
[06:07] <mr_smeega1> CalDAV Eplugin starting up .
[06:07] <mr_smeega1> just hangs there
[06:08] <yoshiznit123> hey fijam, i found the problem in the forums - completely removing the evms package worked, but it's kind of nasty (for one, ubuntu-standard gets removed) do you know any other workarounds?
[06:08] <WineO> What app do I use for LVM?  Is there a gnome frontend for it?
[06:08] <fijam> yoshiznit123: nope
[06:08] <fijam> yoshiznit123: strange issue
[06:08] <yoshiznit123> yea...
[06:08] <Redrose> Ok, i've tried getting freecycle, but it failed, can anyone name a garageband look alike that's in the apt repo?
[06:09] <yoshiznit123> how would I just stop evms from starting on boot? (without modifying initscripts and all)
[06:09] <RMorris85> i ran the update and it said -- E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:09] <RMorris85> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:09] <earthian> 
[06:09] <nagyv_> I would like to install ubuntu in an IBM Thinkpad 600. The downloaded alternative CD can not start. It asks for a 2nd CD. I have tried with an original Breezy CD. There the install CD started, but the Live did not. Are there any changec that if I install Breezy it will work well after with Dapper well?
[06:09] <AstralJava> RMorris85: sudo apt-get update
[06:09] <AstralJava> ;)
[06:10] <RMorris85> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:10] <yoshiznit123> nagyv_, what do you mean when you say it asks for another cd? the alternate CD should only have one
[06:11] <W_McL> nagyv_: install breezy, after that edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change any "breezy" to "dapper", do aapt-get update and a apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:11] <evil-tux> nalioth hablas espaol?
[06:11] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Okay, please paste that /etc/apt/sources.list so we can have a look -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:11] <nalioth> evil-tux: no, vaya a #ubuntu-es por espaol, por favor
[06:11] <AstralJava> RMorris85: It's obvious that file isn't quite right.
[06:12] <brucedes> I was wondering if anyone knew of keymaps for macintosh keyboards? Since they have different keysets to standard keyboards
[06:12] <RMorris85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22054
[06:13] <nalioth> brucedes: the mac keyboard is listed in your preferences
[06:13] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Thanks, having a look now...
[06:13] <WineO> What app do I use for LVM?  Is there a gnome frontend for it?
[06:13] <evil-tux> nalioth ok will try, need help...nick eviltux this registered?
[06:13] <evil-tux> I am new in this network
[06:14] <nalioth> evil-tux: you are registered.  :)
[06:14] <mcphail> WineO: here is a debian-based tutorial which might help: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410
[06:14] <gre1> srry for callin u man whores the other day
[06:15] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Could be that the us.* mirror isn't working 100% atm. Try again later, or if you feel brave, use another mirror -> change 'us' to some other country code, or leave the country codes out completely.
[06:15] <AstralJava> RMorris85: But other than that, the file looks to be just right now.
[06:15] <ra1> how to remove a module and it folders from cvs
[06:15] <RMorris85> feeling brave?
[06:16] <AstralJava> RMorris85: :) I just mean that if you feel like editing that file by hand.
[06:16] <RMorris85> just take out all the us.
[06:16] <RMorris85> ?
[06:17] <AstralJava> RMorris85: That should work.
[06:17] <evil-tux> nalioth yes but with evil-tux when eviltux expires nick?
[06:17] <nalioth> evil-tux: /msg nickserv info NICK
[06:17] <nalioth> evil-tux: nicks expire after 60 days of non use
[06:17] <ScislaC> Anyone familiar with the System>Administration apps not launching? It says "Starting Administrative Application" in the task bar, but never prompts for password and it silently quits.
[06:18] <evil-tux> nalioth, eviltux: Last Seen: 1 year 18 weeks 6 days
[06:18] <evil-tux> can register it I and leave this?
[06:18] <nalioth> evil-tux: /msg me please
[06:18] <mcphail> ScislaC: a recent botch in the compiz repos broke things like Synaptic, if that is what you mean
[06:19] <RMorris85> took the us out and still no workie
[06:19] <RMorris85> hrrrmmm
[06:19] <WineO> mcphail: thanks!  I couldn't readily see how to specify the root partition when it is a volume group.  Any ideas?
[06:19] <r466er> how can i see which users belong to a group??
[06:19] <selinuxium> Hi all any PERL users here, I am having problems installing libxml-simple-xml even with apt....
[06:19] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Did you remember to do sudo apt-get update again after editing the file?
[06:19] <RMorris85> yeah
[06:19] <Cenix_> r466er, cat /etc/groups
[06:19] <erUSUL> ScislaC: try in terminal 'gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic'
[06:19] <Cenix_> err
[06:19] <Cenix_> /etc/group
[06:20] <earthian> can anybody help me install ubuntu on a raid thing? i am newbie to all tech things and stuff. and i do not have internet on the computer i am trying to install ubuntu... and i have like 1 floppy disk :)
[06:20] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Is it the same error msg?
[06:20] <earthian> help1!!
[06:20] <earthian> :/
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[06:20] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:20] <RMorris85> yup
[06:20] <mcphail> WineO: i have never experimented with such dark magic! I was keeping this for a little project when i get some spare time...
[06:20] <earthian> that wont help me a lot :S
[06:20] <earthian> i am using livecd
[06:20] <erUSUL> earthian: did you enabled the raid functions in the bios?
[06:20] <r466er> cenix , but not every user is shown in this file; cause i know that a user belongs to a group, but in the file /etc/group stands nothing that this user belongs to the group i know
[06:20] <earthian> yea
[06:20] <earthian> the disk in partition magic is 500gb now
[06:21] <earthian> windows does find it
[06:21] <AstralJava> RMorris85: That's weird. I'm getting no errors.
[06:21] <RMorris85> The following packages have unmet dependencies: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: language-selector-qt but it is not going to be installed
[06:21] <earthian> but ubunti sees only 2 hdds with 250gb each
[06:21] <Cenix_> and what about the standard gnome user manager?
[06:21] <earthian> gparted does not see any partitions
[06:21] <earthian> nothing
[06:21] <earthian> :(
[06:21] <earthian> i am stuck
[06:21] <Cenix_> oh yeah, I see
[06:22] <Cenix_> the main group is indeed not in /etc/group
[06:22] <Cenix_> that one is to be found in /etc/passwd
[06:22] <r466er> ok thx
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian: did you even read that link on setting up a raid on ubuntu
[06:22] <Cenix_> (the groupid is in there I mean)
[06:22] <earthian> yea i read it.
[06:22] <Cenix_> (you'll have too lookup what group name it is in /etc/group that corresponds to that gid)
[06:22] <earthian> it wont make the raid bootable
[06:22] <earthian> ?
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian: And you dont understand why you see two 250's and not a single 500?
[06:22] <erUSUL> earthian: that's it linux afaik does not support this configuration you have to disable raid in the bios and use software raid through dm and lvm. if you plan to dual boot with windows keep in mind that windows does not support the linux raid and viceversa
[06:23] <earthian> omg
[06:23] <ScislaC> mcphail: yeah, I had that issue at home... I'm not using the beerorkid repos here at the office though
[06:24] <tomveens> hey
[06:24] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Did the sudo apt-get update command go thru without errors this time?
[06:24] <arno> Hello, I'm using proftpd, and at last O got the port 21 open but my server still doesn't work... can anyone help me please?
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> 839 people say , Hello and Welcome
[06:24] <mcphail> ScislaC: try running the apps from the command line and seeing what errors are thrown
[06:24] <RMorris85> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06...... apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[06:25] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Did you insert that modified /etc/apt/sources.list in the original's place?
[06:25] <RMorris85> i thought that was the og
[06:25] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Sounds like you still have the install cd in there, which isn't shown in the pastebin entry.
[06:25] <slytherin> RMorris85: Did you edit /etc/apt/sources.list to add/delete CD entry recently?
[06:25] <RMorris85> no
[06:25] <RMorris85> ?
[06:26] <ScislaC> erUSUL: K... so I did that and it doesn't error or anything... I do get prompted for the password in the terminal, but it just hangs. It does the same thing visually with showing that Starting Administrative Application in the taskbar, and that exits silently... but it's just blinking on the line after I entered my password in the terminal
[06:26] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Where in your filesystem is that file that you pasted to the pastebin?
[06:26] <RMorris85> what is in the pastebin in whats there
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[06:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:26] <FRET> I'm using profiles with the network-manager. Do I have to edit the .xml-file to permanently add new hosts?
[06:26] <slytherin> RMorris85: pastebin link please.
[06:26] <AstralJava> RMorris85: :) Can't be, since there is no mention of the install cd.
[06:26] <FRET> the new added hosts are always gone after chagning profile
[06:26] <zmo> hm... is the -k7 kernel optimized for 64bits ?
[06:26] <cliffd> question, I just installed ubuntu 6.06, and the kernel is 2.6.15, will it update to 2.6.17 or is that where it stays until Edgy comes out?
[06:27] <arno> could anyone try to tell me what's wrong? ftp://88.122.245.107
[06:27] <RMorris85>  / etc/apt/source.list
[06:27] <slytherin> zmo: what do you mean by that?
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> zmo: Personally, I would stick with the 686
[06:27] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Are you sure? It should be /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <AstralJava> RMorris85: You were missing an 's' from the word 'sources'.
[06:27] <zmo> well, since I use linux I had the habit to recompile the kernel to just suit my needs
[06:27] <gre1> how do i had another hardrive after installation?
[06:28] <cliffd> Jack_Sparrow: I can pick a different kernel other then then 386 one?
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> cliffd: yes, you can have both
[06:28] <slytherin> zmo: For 64 bit there is only one kernel. k7 is for AMD 32 bit.
[06:28] <zmo> but having a 64bits processor, I don't know if that's a good idea to recompile in 64bits with a 32bits environment
[06:28] <cliffd> how does one get the 686 kernel?
[06:28] <zmo> slytherin - which is ?
[06:28] <erUSUL> ScislaC: gksu should show a graphical dialog to enter the password
[06:28] <RMorris85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22054
[06:28] <fijam> cliffd: search synaptic for 686
[06:28] <slytherin> cliffd: From synaptic
[06:28] <cliffd> thanks!
[06:28] <fijam> np
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:29] <fijam> ok, I'm off. Later
[06:29] <slytherin> zmo: I guess 64 bit kernel is only on 64 bit CD.
[06:29] <ThePrettyThing> hey, anybody knows where to get a GCC compiler for Ubuntu?
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> You guys are too fast today.. These old fingers are going to go take a break..
[06:29] <zmo> I'm sorry, but I'm switching from debian and in the mean time, I'm discovering 64bits architecture and ATI drivers
[06:29] <slytherin> ThePrettyThing: install package build-essential
[06:30] <ThePrettyThing> slytherin: cheers.. i'll try
[06:30] <RMorris85> i think this might work after the update
[06:30] <RMorris85> :-)
[06:30] <zmo> so I want to recompile to get at least the dual core working, and at best to have the kernel running natively as 64bits, but I don't want that if I can't have my GPU's accelleration working
[06:30] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Glad to hear that.
[06:31] <RMorris85> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:31] <RMorris85>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[06:31] <RMorris85> E: Broken packages
[06:31] <mr_claus_> hi, i try to use tsclient to connect to my terminal server and got error while connecting
[06:31] <RMorris85> grrr
[06:31] <mr_claus_> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[06:32] <fijam> !tell user__ about repositories
[06:32] <fijam> !repos > user__
[06:32] <patrick_> external monitor shows blank screen using nvidia driver on xps gen 2 laptop
[06:32] <mr_claus_> Could not init font path element ..... (the font path is not in xorg.conf and it is not in the fontserver configuration)
[06:32] <slytherin> RMorris85: You may have not included some repositories. For example, check dapper-security and dapper-update lines to see if they include all four repos.
[06:33] <RMorris85> from the source list generator?
[06:33] <fijam> !repos
[06:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:33] <fijam> !repos > user__
[06:33] <slytherin> RMorris85: If you can pint me to your pastebin entry, I may tell you properly
[06:33] <fijam> that's all, folks
[06:34] <RMorris85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22054
[06:34] <ScislaC> erUSUL: nope... and reinstalling the package didn't fix it either :(
[06:35] <arno> ???
[06:35] <madman__> I open kate/settings/configure kate/editor/fonts & colors/font tab/ I choose courier 10 pitch, regular, size 18. I click apply then click ok. The new font size shows in kate but it prints at a lower font size. Like it's printing at a defult setting. any help
[06:37] <nahoj> if i should upgrade to edgy, should my sources.list look like this? http://pastebin.ca/154778
[06:37] <RMorris85> slytherin: did u take a look?
[06:37] <slytherin> RMorris85: Looking
[06:37] <patrick_> external monitor shows blank screen using nvidia driver on xps gen 2 laptop
[06:38] <arno> help!!
[06:38] <isis> hello
[06:38] <slytherin> RMorris85: I don't know why you are getting this error. kdegraphics-kfile-plugins is in main repos itself
[06:39] <orhthotheo> hello, i'm having problems with my locales. some debug is here: http://subshop.nu/sv-locales.png
[06:39] <RMorris85> hey should i check the kubuntu.org packages on the source-o-matic?
[06:39] <RMorris85> :-/
[06:40] <orhthotheo> the problem with http://subshop.nu/sv-locales.png is tha"" is incorrectly displayed
[06:40] <RMorris85> the one right past this message        All repositories below are unofficial repositories and should NOT, I       repeat NOT!, once again NOT!! be used unless you know what you are doing       VERY WELL! These are unsupported repositories with no guarantee that they       won't break your system!
[06:40] <eetfunk> how do i disable reverse dns lookup from the command line?
[06:40] <manux> Anyone have used the surecom ep-9428 pcmcia wireless card?
[06:41] <isis> trying to switch from windows to ubuntu...on seperate computers..I love to use myspace have a lot of family and friends I keep in touch with and right now I am running firefox though wine but I am still having trouble with the flash.....any sugguestions??? sure would appreciate it:)
[06:41] <arno> can anyone help?
[06:41] <erUSUL> orhthotheo: all i can advice is to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' or/and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf'
[06:42] <orhthotheo> isis: there is firefox+flash for linux too
[06:42] <RMorris85> hey should i check the kubuntu.org packages on the source-o-matic?
[06:42] <arno> the port 21 il open, as 'shields up' says but my server doesn't work....
[06:42] <arno> is open
[06:42] <graveson> where can i find more info on edgy ?
[06:42] <isis> where do I find that?????
[06:42] <orhthotheo> erUSUL: yesyes, and restart X?
[06:43] <rofl0r_> how can i add additional display resolutions to the display manager ?
[06:43] <orhthotheo> isis: getfirefox.com ;p dpkg-reconfigure  locales
[06:43] <orhthotheo> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux
[06:43] <cliffd> is there a slick way of making hidd start when I boot? under system->prefs->services I dont see much of anything.
[06:43] <isis> what version are you talking about????
[06:43] <erUSUL> orhthotheo: to be sure reboot the system ;)
[06:44] <rofl0r_> i remember a command like xf86config, but that dont work
[06:44] <isis> I do have flash installed but it's not keeping up with myspace and I still have trouble running it
[06:44] <erUSUL> rofl0r_: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:44] <rofl0r_> thanks
[06:45] <slytherin> cliffd: Are you talking about HIDD in bluetooth?
[06:45] <arno> can anyone help please?
[06:45] <isis> well I think I have the newest but I'll check it again
[06:45] <cliffd> slytherin: yes.
[06:46] <erUSUL> arno: have you checked the logs of the ftp server?
[06:46] <arno> erUSUL it says FTP response reading failed
[06:47] <slytherin> cliffd: edit file /etc/default/bluez-utils look for HIDD_ENABLED, then 'sudo /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart'
[06:47] <arno> but erUSUL with shields up the port 21 is opened...
[06:47] <cliffd> slytherin: thanks
[06:47] <quincy> Ubuntu is amazing!
[06:47] <tayirvadai_vikra> has anyone tried to setup infrared
[06:48] <cliffd> quincy: I agree
[06:48] <tayirvadai_vikra> i have a problem with it
[06:48] <tayirvadai_vikra> can anyone help me
[06:48] <cica> hi guys
[06:48] <Plouj> I tried to start a SSH server in Ubuntu server, but it says fail. Where can I check for more detailed messages? /var/log/messages doesn't show anything.
[06:48] <Plouj> anything useful, that is
[06:49] <redguy> Plouj: /var/log/daemon
[06:49] <cica> I'm about to tune my Ubuntu system and I was wondering is there any way of making a complete back of the system before making any changes incase it all goes pear shaped !!
[06:49] <Plouj> /var/log/daemon appears to be empty
[06:49] <kimo> !backup
[06:49] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[06:49] <cliffd> cica: if you have the space you can ufsdump your partitoins
[06:50] <Plouj> !ssh
[06:50] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:50] <cica> thanks cliffd
[06:50] <cica> and kimo
[06:50] <cica> !fstab
[06:50] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:51] <TheGateKeeper> cica: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup & also http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[06:51] <arno> erUSUL do you have an idea?
[06:51] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Still having the problem?
[06:51] <cica> cheers GateKeeper
[06:52] <cica> does anyone else have their home area on a different partition?
[06:52] <cica> in fstab?
[06:52] <roel_> cica: yep, me
[06:53] <cica> can you explain the purpose of this roel... please
[06:53] <tayirvadai_vikra> has anyone tried setting up infrared
[06:53] <predaeus> Hello! Has anybody managed to get a working Mic on Edgy Eft with an Audigy 4?
[06:53] <AstralJava> brb
[06:53] <erUSUL> arno: no sorry i've never used proftpd
[06:53] <roel_> cica: when you install ubuntu over new, or install another version of ubuntu, your settings/mail/documents are not touched
[06:54] <cica> roel_: so it's just a case of editing the fstab?
[06:55] <Plouj> lol
[06:55] <slytherin> tayirvadai_vikra: I tried once. Didn't succeed. Can't help you
[06:55] <roel_> cica: moving all the data to the new partition (with the 'dd' command for ex.) and editing fstab, yes. And rebooting :)
[06:55] <Plouj> apparently SSHd was already started, so /etc/init.d/ssh start failed...
[06:55] <patrick_> external monitor shows blank screen using nvidia driver on xps gen 2 laptop
[06:55] <DJBlits> .dll is for windows only..?
[06:55] <cica> roel_: is there a name for this process (so I can google it)
[06:56] <r0bby_> DJBlits: dlls are for windows
[06:56] <r0bby_> yes
[06:56] <r0bby_> pretty much exclusively
[06:56] <roel_> cica: hmm try googling "/home ubuntu different partition move" or something like that
[06:56] <roel_> cica: i'm having dinner now
[06:56] <cica> roel_: thanks... enjoy
[06:57] <DJBlits> ok ty
[06:58] <DJBlits> :)
  ok where u able to see a hardware called ird... when u execute ifconfig
[06:58] <eetfunk> it takes about 45-60 seconds to connect to my SSH.  it used to be very fast.  Anybody has an idea?
[06:58] <DJBlits> :P
[06:59] <AstralJava> gaim just went nuts; ate up 50+% processor time
[06:59] <kimo> eetfunk: strace ssh server & see what is taking time
[06:59] <slytherin> tayirvadai_vikra: Don't remember exactly. Tried on my dad's laptop. Away from homw now
[06:59] <eetfunk> kimo: hate to ask, but how do i do that?
[06:59] <DJBlits> pff
[07:00] <kimo> eetfunk: just like that "strace ssh server" !
[07:00] <cliffd> when my system shutdowns it says closing down bit tracker and printing and lvm and raid monitor. where do I control those services?
[07:00] <eetfunk> ok :)
[07:00] <slytherin> cica: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/
[07:00] <DJBlits> :o
[07:01] <RMorris85> AstralJava: yes stil have the problem
[07:01] <mcphail> cliffd: via the scripts in /etc/init.d/
[07:01] <kimo> guys, I can run the 32 bit version on 64bit CPU with no problems, right ?
[07:01] <graveson> why does installing totem-xine remove totem and ubuntu desktop ? how do i work around this ?
[07:01] <mcphail> kimo: yes
[07:02] <eetfunk> how do i turn off reverse dns in the command line?
[07:02] <patrick_> external monitor shows blank screen using nvidia driver on xps gen 2 laptop
[07:02] <patrick_> external monitor shows blank screen using nvidia driver on xps gen 2 laptop
[07:02] <squeaks> can anyone point me to how i can used different serverlayouts in ubuntu, i have the layouts, but can't figure out how to switch between them
[07:02] <cliffd> mcphail: ok, I was just wondering if there was a gui front end
[07:02] <cica> slytherin: it says I've got to resize my current hard disk before I can do this (move home to its own partition). Is resizing the hard disk advisiable/easy to do ???
[07:02] <DeeTahPanLtah> http://nanobin.nanosouffle.net/1594 well,what could have happened?
[07:03] <mcphail> cliffd: /etc/init.d/service start | stop | restart etc is simple enough :)
[07:03] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Did you check that the file was correctly named and in the correct place?
[07:03] <mcphail> cliffd: (and there probably is a gui buried somewhere...)
[07:03] <cliffd> mcphail: yes, I agree. I just know that FC liked you to do it from there gui tool if you were running a gui. im happy with /etc/init.d
[07:04] <slytherin> cica: Where does it say so?
[07:04] <RMorris85> yea it is sources.list
[07:05] <mcphail> cliffd: i'm on CLI just now, but i'm sure there's an option in the gnome menus somewhere
[07:05] <slytherin> cica: It is talking about new partition. No need to resize existing ones if you already have free partition.
[07:05] <cliffd> mcphail: I went to services and all I saw was cron and syslog. nothing about all the other things like cups and bit torrent tracker and raid manager
[07:06] <cliffd> thats why I was wondering if there was another area, maybe special to ubuntu where it was all kept
[07:06] <cica> slytherin: what do u mean by free partition?
[07:06] <cliffd> this is going to sound stupid but how do I search in synaptic, when I click the search button and high light all, and then type something, nothing shows up.
[07:06] <slytherin> cica: I don't know how to explain. I don't understand why you need to move your /home?
[07:07] <caspar> I have a problem that i can't install the new version of Ubuntu on a "old" comptuer
[07:07] <AstralJava> RMorris85: And when you copied the source-o-matic generated file, you're sure it replaced the earlier one?
[07:07] <cica> slytherin: im moving it so I won't loose anything when I do upgrades fresh installs
[07:08] <BigMonkey> How can I mount samba shares at bootup?  These are on my subnet, and I was able to cobble together a method before.  How do I do it right?
[07:08] <cica> slytherin: u know whatta mean?
[07:08] <alphanaut> compiz?
[07:08] <erUSUL> cica: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[07:08] <redguy> BigMonkey: hmm edit /etc/fstab?
[07:08] <mcphail> cliffd: there appears to be an app called "bum" in the repos.
[07:08] <mcphail> !info bum
[07:08] <RMorris85> yes for sure
[07:08] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[07:09] <alphanaut> need help w/ compiz themer
[07:09] <caspar> how can i install Ubuntu with only the text modus ?
[07:09] <cica> erUSUL: yeah I've seen that. But I'm stuck at this bit "First, create a partition of sufficient size for your /home directory. You may have to use that new hard drive, or adjust/resize the existing partition on your current hard-drive to do this. Let me skip those details."
[07:09] <slytherin> cica: Upgrades don't touch your home directory. For fresh install I don't know what to do.
[07:09] <caspar> becouse i still run warty on that computer, but i want to upgrade it to Dapper
[07:09] <cliffd> mcphail: looking. thanks.
[07:09] <cica> erUSUL: how do I create this partition ^^^ ?
[07:10] <AstralJava> RMorris85: Then I cannot  understand why that is happening to you. My only suggestion is to try the se. country code, which I am using. It seems to work for me. If that doesn't help, I must apologize and admit I cannot help anymore. :)
[07:10] <alphanaut> cdwgthemer and compiz? anyone?
[07:11] <synic> alphanaut: be more specific
[07:11] <caspar> can annyone help me?
[07:11] <cliffd> if I add the universal repository to my synaptic is that bad? should I add it when I need something and then remove it or can I just leave it there... the universal wont over wright and update packages from the default repository will it?
[07:11] <alphanaut> synic, I have problems w/ applying themes in compiz
[07:11] <redguy> BigMonkey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12306
[07:12] <slytherin> cliffd: It is not bad at all.
[07:12] <synic> alphanaut: I gathered that much
[07:12] <BigMonkey> redguy - Well, I'm way beyond that.  Do you know of a how-to?  As it is, i was creating mount points in the root directory, but I had to be the owner of the link.
[07:12] <mcphail> RMorris85: sometimes running "sudo apt-get install -f" followed by "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" cures problems
[07:12] <erUSUL> cica: with gparted from a livecd shrink a partition with enugh free space and make a new one on that space
[07:12] <alphanaut> Is CGWD Themer a themer for compiz?
[07:12] <BigMonkey> redguy - Thanks, looking.
[07:12] <anthony> I have a separate partition mounted within my Home folder and I't like to give it the same priviledges as my home folder.  how do I do this?
[07:12] <cliffd> slytherin: thanks. coming from FC some of the available repos would over right system packages. it was bad
[07:13] <synic> alphanaut: yeah
[07:13] <mcphail> cliffd: the standard repos are ok. Beware of things like the compiz/beerorkid repos, though.
[07:13] <slytherin> cliffd: In ubuntu, universe repositories held completely different packages that main.
[07:13] <alphanaut> synic, but theres no "apply"-button in version 0.66
[07:13] <redguy> BigMonkey: why would you make mountpoints in the root dir? /media is a far better location
[07:13] <synic> alphanaut: it just changes on the fly
[07:13] <alphanaut> synic, not for me
[07:13] <cliffd> mcphail, slytherin: thanks.
[07:14] <synic> alphanaut: are you even running cgwd?
[07:14] <synic> alphanaut: killall gnome-window-decorator && cgwd
[07:14] <alphanaut> synic, aha...
[07:14] <byteshack> anyone here using FreeNX?
[07:14] <cica> erUSUL: that sounds pretty complex. think i might be better off just leaving it ???
[07:14] <dredhammer> hello i have a problem my dvd playback no longer works in dapper i don't know why mplayer plays a dvd for a bit and then quits with no explanation and the default movie player can't play it
[07:14] <StoneNote> byteshack, I've used it
[07:15] <dredhammer> also nautilus shows the dvd disc as being empty
[07:15] <byteshack> do you guys notice issues with firefox when running under nx?
[07:15] <chell> Hi
[07:15] <StoneNote> byteshack, nope
[07:15] <chell> I'm havuing problems with my audio device
[07:15] <mcphail> byteshack: no
[07:15] <byteshack> tabs seem to be locked up while any of them is loading
[07:15] <slytherin> dredhammer: Have you installed libdvdcss?
[07:15] <alphanaut> synic, well, that help :D thx ^^
[07:15] <synic> np
[07:15] <tomveens> i've got a project, it's bit messy now, but you can look at some at http://openmedia.tomveens.nl
[07:15] <dredhammer> yes it shows up in synaptic as being installed
[07:15] <chell> before I plugged in my headphone and installed skype everyhing was fine
[07:15] <byteshack> if I try to open things in a tab on nx, the browser hangs
[07:15] <dredhammer> even did apt-get
[07:15] <dredhammer> its there
[07:15] <tomveens> hope you''ll leave comment
[07:16] <mshiltonj> I'm having a memory problem somewhere on a particular machine running ubuntu as a desktop machine. After about 4-5 days of uptime, it seems all the memory is used up. I close all apps, restart x, etc, but the memory is still not freed.  Top and ps don't show any large-memory processes. So far, I have to resort to restarting the machine.
[07:16] <byteshack> this does not happen on the serve, but only when connecting to it via nx
[07:16] <chell> now I don't get sound in frozen-bubble and other games anymore (it says that there has been no audio deive found)
[07:16] <byteshack> weird
[07:16] <StoneNote> byteshack, I have two browsers open each with multiple tabs right now. no problems. no hangs.
[07:16] <mshiltonj> has something like this been seen before? google doesn't have much.
[07:16] <brucedes> I want to do a non-destructive partition of my drive using qparted, how can I do this? At the moment the resize option is greyed out...
[07:16] <slytherin> !tell dredhammer about dvd
[07:16] <erUSUL> cica: if you are unsure, yes better live it. messing with hardrives and partitions is risky bussines even if you know what you are doing
[07:16] <chell> I can listen to music using rythmbox though
[07:16] <byteshack> do you use compression?
[07:16] <alphanaut> how do I replace the gnome-window-decorator w/ cwgd, synic ?
[07:16] <byteshack> I'm wondering if it's because I have to use SSL
[07:16] <StoneNote> byteshack, compression and encryption are on
[07:16] <byteshack> darn
[07:17] <synic> alphanaut: how are you starting compiz?
[07:17] <StoneNote> byteshack, how fast is the server you are on and what type of load is it under?
[07:17] <byteshack> I woudn't even have a clue on how to debug this
[07:17] <IndyBC> Hello. Is there any plugin/extension/addon for XMMS in order for it to support unicode?
[07:17] <byteshack> server is not doing anything
[07:17] <cica> erUSUL: thanks for the advice
[07:17] <alphanaut> thefuture
[07:17] <chell> !has anyone got an idea
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about has anyone got an idea - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <byteshack> things work OK if I go through vnc
[07:17] <synic> IndyBC: you might try beep-media-player instead, I think it supports unicode
[07:17] <chell> what I can do to resolve these issues?
[07:17] <erUSUL> cica: n problem
[07:18] <IndyBC> synic: Thanks, but I don't really want to change xmms ;)
[07:18] <StoneNote> byteshack, there are tools that are included with nx but I've never used them to resolve a latency issue.
[07:18] <gary4gar> can anyone hep me connecting my nokia phone in linux??
[07:18] <synic> IndyBC: it's pretty much xmms only ported to gtk2.
[07:18] <byteshack> but if I try to load a "big" page on a tab, then the browser hangs
[07:18] <IndyBC> synic: ok
[07:18] <byteshack> but not the whole nx connection
[07:18] <IndyBC> synic: thanks :)
[07:18] <StoneNote> byteshack, there is a channel called #nx you might ask there
[07:18] <alphanaut> synic, now i got it.. thx
[07:18] <byteshack> ah... I'll move my questions there
[07:19] <brucedes> also, does anyone know a good m4a codec for using in banshee?
[07:19] <StoneNote> byteshack, good luck
[07:19] <byteshack> thanks
[07:19] <synic> brucedes: maybe gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[07:19] <brucedes> i shall try it
[07:20] <synic> brucedes: it might also be in gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[07:20] <AsadR> is there any application in ubuntu that can show a realtime graph of the bandwidth being used on my network interfaces?
[07:20] <synic> I haven't had much luck with the m4as....
[07:20] <gary4gar> can anyone hep me connecting my nokia 6020 in ubuntu????
[07:21] <BigMonkey> redguy - You're right.  I should make them there, but I was accommodating users that got confused when the mountpoints were not in the root. They wanted the system to behave like our unix system when they were logged in.
[07:21] <slytherin> byteshack: banshee uses gstreamer, so you will need to install ugly-multiverse plugins for gstreamer
[07:21] <redguy> BigMonkey: still, you should make the mountpoints in /media and provide symlinks in root IMHO
[07:21] <slytherin> brucedes: banshee uses gstreamer, so you will need to install ugly-multiverse plugins for gstreamer
[07:22] <cliffd> any one know where this bit torrent tracker is getting started?
[07:22] <gary4gar> hey 853 people here atleast someone should know my problem
[07:22] <gary4gar> pls
[07:22] <slytherin> gary4gar: Connecting using what?
[07:22] <BigMonkey> redguy - I will make them there on this machine.  But, in that page, there is a reference to cifsexec. What is that?  I'm looking to mount samba shares, is that right?
[07:22] <gary4gar> can anyone hep me connecting my nokia 6020 in ubuntu????
[07:23] <gary4gar> slytherin
[07:23] <cica> bye guys
[07:23] <brucedes> gary, how? bluetooth? USB?
[07:23] <gary4gar> usb
[07:23] <gary4gar> i got dku-5 cable also
[07:23] <jikuty> hm, I wonder how i can tell which ethernet card model# is in my old pc :/
[07:23] <brucedes> shouldn't it appear as a usb drive?
[07:23] <brucedes> I wouldn't know, I use bluetooth
[07:23] <jikuty> xubuntu refuses to recognize that it is indeed a card
[07:23] <cliffd> jikuty: lspci
[07:23] <lanec> I need help setting up WPA 2 in Ubuntu 6.06
[07:23] <lanec> for an Intel 2100b network card
[07:24] <gary4gar> where should i check <brucedes>
[07:24] <lanec> can anyone help?
[07:24] <brucedes> hmm
[07:24] <Redrose> !screen
[07:24] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[07:24] <Redrose> !resolution
[07:24] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
i just plugged the phone but nothin happened!
[07:25] <mikey> I'm pretty new to ubuntu, and I'm trying to install ndiswrapper, I found a tutorial on the forums, but when I execute "sudo make", it errors saying that "gcc-3.4" command does not exist ("gcc --version" tells me I have 4.0.2)... Can anybody help?
[07:25] <brucedes> http://www.kmobiletools.org/node/135
[07:25] <brucedes> http://www.kmobiletools.org/ even
[07:25] <slytherin> lanec: Did you try using wpa_supplicant or network-manager?
[07:25] <ladydoor> mikey: you need to go to the repositories in synaptic and install gcc-3.4
[07:26] <ladydoor> mikey: also, does ubuntu's version of ndiswrapper not work for you?
[07:26] <Gumby600m> I want gkrellm (system monitor) in a panel using Ubuntu Dapper with Gnome... but I can't figure out how to add gkrellm to the panel.  It acts like a standalone program...
 he is talkinh about the sms deleting feature not about connecting it
[07:26] <lanec> slytherin: no I haven't tried either
[07:26] <slytherin> mikey: Why ndiswrapper? which card?
[07:26] <brucedes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22057 *sigh* When I enabled multiverse
[07:26] <brucedes> gary4gar, the second link will be more help
[07:26] <mikey> I did a search for gcc in synaptic, and could only find 4.xx and 3.3, will those do?
[07:26] <lanec> how do I use wpa_supplicant? can I get Network-manager with apt-get?
[07:26] <mikey> And I wasnt sure if ndiswrapper was already installed, apt-get said it wasn't
[07:27] <gary4gar> brucedes, i will try & then tell
[07:27] <lanec> sorry if I respond slowly I think I may have bleach in my eye and its really messed up
[07:27] <mikey> And slytherin, it's a Belkin F5D7050 USB
[07:27] <ladydoor> mikey: right, but there's a version of it in synaptic you can install instead
[07:27] <mikey> Oh I see
[07:27] <slytherin> lanec: install wpagui and network-manager from apt-get
[07:27] <brucedes> You could also in theory use wine to install the nokia phone software, but I doubt they'll interact well together
[07:27] <asdfjkl> i'm wanting to delete the first (or last) couple seconds of mp3 files anyone know an app to do that?
[07:28] <gary4gar> brucedes, u are talkinh about this na!
[07:28] <gary4gar> http://www.kmobiletools.org/node/109
[07:28] <redondo81> Hi to everyoneition , can you tell me how can I mount a fat32 partition please?
[07:28] <mikey> ladydoor, I did a search and got, "ndiswrapper-utils", will those be okay, or am I looking for something more specific?
[07:28] <gary4gar> second link??
[07:28] <lanec> okay I will do so now
[07:28] <lanec> thanks
[07:28] <brucedes> http://www.kmobiletools.org
[07:28] <jikuty> hm, lspci lists the modem that's in this pc (56k), but doesnt list my ethernet card :/
[07:28] <Gumby600m> How does one add GKrellm to a vertical gnome panel?
[07:29] <naa> anyone here use the gimp?
[07:29] <ladydoor> mikey: i think that's it
[07:29] <mikey> Oh, it is
[07:29] <mikey> =)
[07:29] <asdfjkl> i'm wanting to delete the first (or last) couple seconds of mp3 files anyone know an app to do that?
[07:29] <redondo81> Can anyone help me to mount a fat32 partition?
[07:29] <mikey> ladydoor, Thanks a bunch, and sorry I didn't see it myself :P
[07:29] <brucedes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22057 any idea why I get this after enabling multiverse downloads in sources.list?
[07:29] <Jack_Sparrow> redondo81: diskmounter script
[07:29] <cliffd> anyone know how to get gaim 2.0 beta from synaptic?
[07:29] <ladydoor> mikey: np
[07:30] <AsadR> is there any application in ubuntu that can show a realtime graph of the bandwidth being used on my network interfaces?
[07:30] <slytherin> !windows
[07:30] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:30] <redondo81> and how does it work?
[07:30] <slytherin> !ntfs
[07:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:30] <slytherin> redondo81: Check the link by ubotu
[07:30] <Jack_Sparrow> redondo81:  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[07:30] <Zajjko> Heya, I'm having some trouble with my webcam and the UVC-drivers. Now, this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1410472 has an installation-guide and says that it shoudl work with Logitech QuickCam Pro 5000. However, I have tried to no avail. Could anyone check my reply in the thread and see if anything coul dbe done?
[07:30] <redondo81> ok,thanks
[07:31] <_azrael> asdfjkl: audacity
[07:32] <teste> E AIAIIAIA
[07:32] <teste> FUNCIOAN MESMO ESSE UBUNTU
[07:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[07:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:32] <predaeus> Hello! Has anybody managed to get a working Mic on Edgy Eft with an Audigy 4?
[07:33] <_azrael> !offtopic > predaeus
[07:33] <teste> SI IO PARLO ITALIANO
[07:33] <_azrael> !it > teste
[07:33] <predaeus> _azrael is there an edgy channel?
[07:33] <_azrael> predaeus: Yes. #ubuntu+1
[07:33] <teste> PERCHE
[07:33] <predaeus> _azrael: k thx.
[07:34] <asdfjkl> _azrael thx, will give it a try
[07:34] <ladydoor> mikey: also, i did an apt-cache search and gcc-3.4 does exist in the repositories :-)
[07:34] <mikey> Oh, awesome =)
[07:35] <mikey> I just did a regular search =(
[07:35] <synd3> Hi. I'm getting this error when I sudo apt-get update: http://pastebin.ca/154846
[07:35] <synd3> How can I fix that?
[07:36] <graveson> why have my scripts stopped working with this error : ./dvdauthor-script: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[07:36] <ompaul> synd3, talk to the people who run http://repository.debuntu.org
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> synd3: It is telling you to run sudo apt-get update when you run sudo apt-get update?
[07:37] <synd3> Jack_Sparrow: Yes
[07:37] <NickGarvey> if I go to compile my kernel, will all of the configuration that ubuntu puts in by default be there?
[07:37] <_azrael> graveson: There are two ways to debug that. The first is to put up the script somewhere, the second is to try to figure out what you changed between it working and not working.
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> synd3: see ompaul's suggestion
[07:37] <ompaul> synd3, I don't know what you expect to get there, however I would like to point out that installing random bits of software may break your ubuntu in new and interesting ways
[07:37] <_lupine> NickGarvey: run mke oldconfig first
[07:37] <_lupine> make*
[07:37] <NickGarvey> _lupine: and that will load the config file?
[07:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: agreed
[07:38] <synd3> ompaul: I don't expect anything. I'm not the one who did the sources.list on this machine
[07:38] <_lupine> NickGarvey: should do
[07:38] <_lupine> it'll get it from /boot or /proc
[07:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[07:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:38] <NickGarvey> _lupine: thanks a lot
[07:38] <_lupine> (assuming it's there  but it should be)
[07:38] <synd3> ompaul: I just would like to know how to get rid of the annoying error message
[07:39] <gary4gar> brucedes,
[07:39] <Jack_Sparrow> synd3: I'd start by rebuilding the repo list
[07:39] <gary4gar> my phone is not deteched!
[07:39] <Jack_Sparrow> synd3: assuming you are using Ubuntu and not another os
[07:40] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, can u help
[07:40] <synd3> Which sources shall I pick to keep from being broken (on that list)
[07:40] <_RC> can someone tell me why my apps disapear into the gnome panel, and cannot be seen?
[07:40] <gary4gar> i need to connect my nokia 6020 via usb
[07:40] <asdfjkl> _azrael: how can i crop the first 3 secs using audacity?
[07:40] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow,
[07:41] <_RC> can someone tell me why my apps disapear into the gnome panel, and cannot be seen?
[07:41] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Sorry, I had to answer the door
[07:41] <_RC> does anyone know?
[07:41] <Doomdebah> and i'm back again.
[07:41] <Jack_Sparrow> I dont do phones
[07:41] <gary4gar> ok can u help me Jack_Sparrow
[07:41] <philosophyNrock> anybody know how to setup up a network printer? i'm having a hell of a time
[07:41] <synd3> Is backports OK?
[07:41] <AsadR> is it possible to build a ubuntu-server system from an existing Ubuntu Desktop system?
[07:41] <_RC> much help would be appreciated
[07:42] <graveson> thanks
[07:42] <gary4gar> ohh thats bad Jack_Sparrow
[07:42] <_azrael> asdfjkl: Select the first 30 seconds of the song by dragging across it.
[07:42] <_azrael> asdfjkl: Press ctrl-x.
[07:42] <_azrael> Save the song in the desired format.
[07:42] <Doomdebah> I need a little help installing a video card driver, I do believe i need to be in run level 3 to do this
[07:43] <Doomdebah> and i don't know how to get into run level 3
[07:43] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: brb
[07:43] <asdfjkl> _azrael, the cut command is grayed out
[07:43] <gary4gar> acctully i am kinda disapponted every time i come there my problem is not solved, i am not blaming anyone but it does feel bad
[07:43] <D-Man`> anyone installed ubuntu on a machine partioned with OSX ?
[07:43] <asdfjkl> nevermind
[07:43] <_azrael> asdfjkl: Did you select part of the song first?
[07:43] <gary4gar> :(
[07:43] <ladydoor> synd3: backports are generally ok; they're not officially supported, though, because it's volunteers maintaining them and making these packages that are slightly more bleeding-edge than ubuntu's default repos
[07:43] <ladydoor> synd3: so do be careful, too :-)
[07:43] <gary4gar> ladydoor, can u hep??
[07:43] <ladydoor> gary4gar: with what?
[07:44] <asdfjkl> _azrael: i got it to work
[07:44] <asdfjkl> thank you!
[07:44] <gary4gar> i need to connect my phone nokia
[07:44] <gary4gar> with ubuntu
[07:44] <gary4gar> via USB
[07:44] <ladydoor> gary4gar: sorry...i don't know anything about cellphones
[07:44] <ladydoor> gary4gar: good luck, though
[07:44] <_lupine> gary4gar: very much depends on your phone
[07:45] <gary4gar> ok:( but do u know is who can help me
[07:45] <Doomdebah> Lady, do you know anything about the installation of Nvidia drivers? i can give you the exact file i have downloaded.
[07:45] <synd3> ladydoor: Thank you
[07:45] <gary4gar> i am kinda very much disapponted
[07:45] <_lupine> the general method would be to make sure your phone has a serial device in /dev somewhere , then set up ppp through it
[07:45] <synd3> ompaul, Jack_Sparrow: Thanks as well
[07:45] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[07:45] <_lupine> Google knows all, in these situations
[07:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry had to move my truck
[07:45] <gary4gar> :(
[07:45] <ladydoor> synth7: np
[07:46] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: I would not know where to start other than lsusb
[07:46] <mikey> ladydoor, Do you use wifi yourself/have experience? I have a 5 letter passphrase for my network, but iwconfig doesn't seem to like "iwconfig wlan0 key xxxxx"
[07:46] <gary4gar> i did lsusb jack
[07:46] <_lupine> you didn't expect to be breast-fed all your life did you, gary4gar ? Look on it as a learning exercise, and once you've worked it out you could always write a HowTo for other users like yourself
[07:46] <Doomdebah> It comes with the directions on the site, which i do have up, but it has references to several different versions of linux.
[07:47] <mikey> Oh. Woops. Sorry I just read the manpage.
[07:47] <mikey> =(
[07:47] <ladydoor> mikey: i do use ndiswrapper, but i've never been in a network with a password (i use public networks). sorry
[07:47] <ladydoor> mikey: oh, cool
[07:47] <ladydoor> that's even better :-)
[07:47] <Doomdebah> and actually, i would be quite pleased if some one could just tell me what menus or comand prompts i should be going through to find out my Ubuntu version.
[07:47] <gary4gar> _lupine, i do will write something,
[07:47] <Doomdebah> I need to learn this system eventually.
[07:48] <ladydoor> Doomdebah: less /etc/lsb-release
[07:48] <ladydoor> Doomdebah: in a terminal
[07:48] <IndyBC> Where can I find a systray plugin for Beep Music Player?
[07:48] <_lupine> or cat
[07:48] <_lupine> (which is cuter)
[07:48] <Doomdebah> awesome. One last quick question, what does SUSE stand for?
[07:48] <ladydoor> _lupine: yeah it is!
[07:49] <_lupine> Doomdebah: something to do with the university that build it to begin with, I think
[07:49] <Doomdebah> ahh.
[07:49] <_lupine> ...but don't quote me on that
[07:50] <abo> I had to kill synaptic in a middle of an install, now it says that it cannot run because it's already running
[07:50] <mr_smeega1> how do i create a pgp signature
[07:50] <elmargol> Doomdebah:  Software Und SystemEntwicklung [distribution]  (Linux), "S.u.S.E."
[07:51] <abo> any one knows how can I clear lock set by synaptic?
[07:51] <_lupine> Software and System ... ?
[07:51] <Doomdebah> so a SuSE Linux version is unrelated to my Ubuntu module?
[07:51] <_lupine> Doomdebah: probably
[07:51] <Doomdebah> and thus the directions i have are useless to me?
[07:51] <Jack_Sparrow> hopefully
[07:51] <kling0n> kibadock looks like fun :)
[07:51] <Doomdebah> lovely.
[07:51] <jolt> Theres no daily live build for Edgy today?
[07:51] <_lupine> (kernel versions will have some equivalence)
[07:51] <mr_smeega1> how do i export a pgp signature
[07:51] <elmargol> Software Und SystemEntwicklung <- Software and SystemDevelopment (distribution)
[07:51] <kling0n> mischat
[07:51] <_lupine> all depends on what you're trying to do
[07:52] <_lupine> ah, thanks :)
[07:52] <kishore> mplayer not installing
[07:52] <BigMonkey> redguy - thanks for the suggestion with /media.  Old solutions have better successors.  Works fine now
[07:52] <_lupine> I understood "und", and two of the three remaining were fairly simple ;)
[07:52] <Doomdebah> trying to install an Nvidia driver so i can play my games *nods*
[07:52] <kishore> hi
[07:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[07:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:52] <Doomdebah> City of Villians won't run without an updated driver.
[07:52] <kishore> mplayer not  installing
[07:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Doomdebah: what nvidia card
[07:52] <Doomdebah> ahh!
[07:52] <elmargol> _lupine: wenn i speak german italien and a bit english :D so no problem for me
[07:52] <jolt> trying to get a USB audio device to work....
[07:53] <elmargol> -wenn
[07:53] <Doomdebah> I love you, a Geforce 2
[07:53] <jolt> Its detected, but it wont add it as an avalible driver
[07:53] <_lupine> merci :)
[07:53] <Doomdebah> forget what exact one it is.
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Doomdebah: Did you read ths linked info here?
[07:53] <jolt> How do i get ALSA to see the device?
[07:53] <Rug> Howdy all.  I just bought an iRivier mp3 player.  When I plug it in it doesn't appear in dmesg.  If I do an lsusb I get: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 4102:1119 iRiver, Ltd. but I have no /dev/sdx to mount it.
[07:53] <Doomdebah> I'm about to read it
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa
[07:53] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:55] <philosophyNrock> i desperately need help installing a network printer
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !cups
[07:55] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:55] <TheGateKeeper> jolt: has the wrong device driver been installed, or has it not installed a device driver?
[07:55] <bubu1uk> !mp3
[07:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:56] <philosophyNrock> i've tried every other help u guys have, and nothing is working
[07:56] <Doomdebah> I downloaded the... Linux Display Driver - IA32
[07:56] <Doomdebah>  Version: 1.0-8762
[07:56] <Doomdebah> Operating System: Linux IA32 ahh! easy to use directions
[07:56] <Doomdebah> this link makes me happy
[07:56] <Rug> bubu1uk: Was that directed at me?
[07:56] <Jack_Sparrow> good
[07:56] <synthjet> phi.N.rock: try "printtool" which is apt-get away
[07:57] <philosophyNrock> synthjet: can i use synaptic to get that?
[07:57] <Gele^BNC> ifconfig eth0 stop
[07:57] <Gele^BNC> stop: Host name lookup failure
[07:57] <Gele^BNC> why?
[07:57] <dan__> has anyone encountered the 'could not calculate the upgrade' error?
[07:57] <Redrose> !kernel
[07:57] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:58] <synthjet> phi.N.rock: yes, printtool worked for me to hook upto my network printer.. it has most of the printesrs listed to get connected to
[07:58] <Masqy> hi all, does some of you watch live TV of the format WMV3 and manage to see the video (and not just hear the sound)?
[07:58] <Hoody> hi
[07:58] <philosophyNrock> synthjet: ok thanks
[07:58] <Redrose> does anyone here have a toshiba laptop which they run linux on?
[07:58] <Jack_Sparrow> synthjet: Why would printtool wnat to remove my ubuntu-desktop
[07:58] <Linuturk_code> Redrose, yes
[07:58] <synthjet> Redrose: yup
[07:58] <Redrose> Linuturk_code, What Type?
[07:58] <Redrose> What type?
[07:58] <Linuturk_code> Redrose, R15-S822
[07:58] <dan__> Anyone else having trouble updating from breezy to dapper?
[07:59] <Jack_Sparrow> lots of people
[07:59] <npster> I remember when using Knoppix there was this program to monitor your IP traffic. What is the program for that in Ubuntu ?
[07:59] <synthjet> Jack: hmmn you could go ahead.. it wont damage your gnome.. I read that it just removes the link or something.. anybody else help?
[07:59] <Hoody> how do i change filetype association?
[07:59] <bbrazil> npster: bmon, ntop, iptraf, tcpdump, tethereal, etherape
[08:00] <Rug> npster: jnettop
[08:00] <synthjet> Jack: Satellite Pro M35X
[08:00] <Redrose> Cause i have a satalite a105 and I was wondering if you had to recompile the kernel to get support for the Fn key and monitor brightness?
[08:00] <dan__> I can't get my wireless card to work, so i thought i'd update everything and get dapper but that doesn't owrk either
[08:00] <npster> OK tnx
[08:00] <Doomdebah> O.o amd that dodn't work.
[08:00] <Redrose> dan__, what card?
[08:00] <philosophyNrock> darn you, 20kpbs!
[08:00] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: No way to account for all the ways people customize their systems...
[08:00] <Doomdebah> wait no... never mind
[08:00] <Top_GEAR> Does the directory /etc/sysconfig exists in ubuntu?
[08:00] <dan__> phoebe oct11G-pci
[08:00] <synthjet> Redrose: for my M35X, I didnt have to..
[08:01] <Jack_Sparrow> synthjet: I will avoid that for now, just wanted to look at it.. not having any problems, but always looking for good solutions
[08:01] <DougDante> Hi I booted 6.06 Ubuntu and it's stuck in 640x480 mode.  The GUI interface only allows me to select that mode.  The /var/log/Xorg.0.log file shows a bunch of "hsync out of range" errors, but I have been in 800x600 or 1024x768 plenty of times with Windows XP and Fedora Core 4 and 5.  I can't edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  Is there a way to fix this?
[08:01] <Redrose> synthjet, how dod you get support?
[08:01] <gre1> why wont it let me acess my debian hardrive from ubuntuu?
[08:01] <mompe> hello
[08:01] <synthjet> Redrose: reg Fn key? it just worked on the fly! am using dapper
[08:02] <jrib> gre1: did you mount it?
[08:02] <Rug> DougDante: why can't you edit xorg.conf?   did you try:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ?
[08:02] <Redrose> me too... and it doesn't work on the fly
[08:02] <gre1> im trying to
[08:02] <mompe> why do I have to recompile NVIDIA driver each time I boot? It works after compiling but when I reboot it doesn't work until I compile it again :(
[08:02] <andrewy> i'm trying to help a friend with ubuntu.. it was working fine for a while, but he said the sound just stopped working and i can't figure out why. /proc/asound/pcm and /proc/asound/card0 exist, but amixer doesnt show a pcm or master device. he has a soundblaster 24bit. anyone have any ideas?
[08:02] <gre1> but itwont let me
[08:02] <Redrose> but i know their is a program called fnfxd but it won't support my laptop
[08:02] <ladydoor> DougDante: though you should instead do sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:02] <slaxy> hi guys... i was about to install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu .. i just want to clarify that... i would be able to shift to gnome and KDE whenever i wish.... [i used to do this with slackware with xconfig command(i guess)]  ...
[08:02] <jrib> gre1: what command are you using?  what error are you getting?  what filesystem does it use?
[08:02] <ladydoor> Rug: sudo nano -w, maybe?
[08:02] <Rug> mompe: are you upgrading the kernel between boots?
[08:02] <gre1> im using the disk manager
[08:03] <synthjet> Redrose: tried apt-getting toshutils?
[08:03] <Linuturk_code> Redrose, my brightness keys work fine out of the box in dapper
[08:03] <ladydoor> slaxy: you should have an option to log into either
[08:03] <DougDante> OK, dumb mistake.  Wasn't root by default.
[08:03] <Linuturk_code> synthjet, toshiba utils are in the repos?
[08:03] <Rug> ladydoor: I alias'd "nano -w" so long ago I forgot about that
[08:03] <mompe> Rug: nope, just installed last version and uninstalled ubuntu's nvidia-glx
[08:03] <slaxy> ladydoor: if u let me know how... that would be help
[08:03] <synthjet> Linuturk: yes it is "toshutils"
[08:03] <ladydoor> Rug: oh! lol. yeah, i didn't bother to alias it, because i use emacs
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> mompe: Where did you get the nvidia drivers you are using?
[08:03] <yukonho> Hi everyone - I'm trying to install Scilab (from the binary on their website) and it asks that I put the tar.gz file in the directory where I want to install it.  What is the default directory for programs like this?
[08:03] <jrib> gre1: ok, what error are you getting?  what filesystem does it use?
[08:04] <Redrose>  required kernel toshiba support not enabled.
[08:04] <gre1> whats the comand to let me acess my hardrive partition
[08:04] <mompe> Jack_Sparrow: From the official page of NVIDIA
[08:04] <Redrose> it's just ignoring the fn key
[08:04] <ladydoor> slaxy: you should get a gdm/kdm login screen. there should be an option to select what session you want to use somewhere on that screen, i think (someone correct me if i'm wrong)
[08:04] <ladydoor> slaxy: and the "session" is just their word for "window manager or desktop environment"
[08:04] <Redrose> !laptop
[08:04] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[08:04] <Rug> Howdy all.  I just bought an iRivier mp3 player.  When I plug it in it doesn't appear in dmesg.  If I do an lsusb I get: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 4102:1119 iRiver, Ltd. but I have no /dev/sdx to mount it.
[08:05] <philosophyNrock> synthjet: ok so i downloaded printtool, now what
[08:05] <Jack_Sparrow> mompe: Did you ever try to read the Ubuntu nvidia help section
[08:05] <gre1> whats the comand to let me acess another partition?
[08:05] <jrib> gre1: mount
[08:05] <slaxy> ladydoor: even i was guessing the same... but i feel that gdm and kdm are 2 different things.. and have to  enable them to run each windows manager....
[08:05] <mompe> Jack_Sparrow: Nope, I didn't but this should work as it works on every linux distribution... I use gentoo normally I will read it
[08:05] <yukonho_> What is the default installation directory for programs?
[08:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[08:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:06] <synthjet> Phil.N.Rock: you are trying to connect to network printer right? just launch the printtool from shell
[08:06] <mompe> Ok i will try again with binary drivers
[08:06] <jrib> yukonho_: /usr/bin for binaries I guess
[08:06] <Jack_Sparrow> mompe: Obviously not EVERY linux distribution
[08:06] <gre1> it wont let me mount the partion i want
[08:06] <jolt> Oops guess ALSA doesnt see my USB audio
[08:06] <philosophyNrock> synthjet: ok. where does printtool install to? i couldnt find it on a filesystem search
[08:07] <ladydoor> slaxy: yeah...i don't really know how that works, since i uninstalled both and boot to a terminal (and use none of the ubuntu DEs as my default) and then use startx. sorry
[08:07] <jrib> gre1: I'm trying to help you but you aren't answering my questions
[08:07] <Aman> !restricted
[08:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:07] <philosophyNrock> synthjet:or do i just type "printtool" into the shell?
[08:07] <NickGarvey> my computer freezes on "Waiting for root file system" and then it throws me back to a shell, what might cause this?
[08:07] <yukonho_> I read on the forums that the Scilab in the multiverse was pretty messed up, so I thought I'd try the binary from their website
[08:07] <synthjet> phil.N.rock: just press F2, and enter printtool or at the shell
[08:07] <deflux-> IS there an easy way to parse the URL from javascript to get the various URL "search" parameters?
[08:07] <gre1> what questions?
[08:07] <jrib> yukonho_: use /opt for that
[08:07] <deflux-> so ?bah=boo, then in javascript, I can find a way to get the value of bah?
[08:07] <mompe> Jack_Sparrow: ok, it was just a relief :p
[08:08] <slaxy> ladydoor: well even im a bit confused on this... anyway thx for your help :)
[08:08] <jrib> gre1: what errors you are getting and what filesystem the partition uses
[08:08] <philosophyNrock> synthjet: ok it says i need ncpfs. i'm gonna download it
[08:08] <DJBlits> okay, someone get help me, so yes plz private chat!
[08:08] <deflux-> nevermind.  :)
[08:08] <gre1> its an ext3
[08:08] <W9ZEB-Lars> is there a way to improve the graphics performance in X, with the integrated intel video card on Dapper?
[08:08] <Doomdebah> .... that was bloody simple
[08:08] <Doomdebah> thank you all again
[08:08] <DJBlits> okay, someone get help me, so yes plz private chat!
[08:08] <jrib> gre1: does the Disks dialog give you some kind of error when you press enable?
[08:09] <jrib> !ask
[08:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:09] <gre1> it dont give me an error it just wont mount it
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: Get a real video cand and not a built in driver
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> card
[08:09] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: on a laptop, that's not going to happen.
[08:09] <Ferramentapenna> Can someone help me with a scanner?
[08:09] <Doomdebah> Hope i don't see you all again, because well that means i have more problems.
[08:09] <andrewy> don't intel cards have free drivers?
[08:09] <DJBlits> i got installed soldat for windows on linux, the problem is: how i can open an .lnk file?
[08:09] <DJBlits> i got installed soldat for windows on linux, the problem is: how i can open an .lnk file?
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: decent answer
[08:09] <DJBlits> i got installed soldat for windows on linux, the problem is: how i can open an .lnk file?
[08:09] <andrewy> oh, laptop
[08:09] <Linuturk_code> my intel card works out of the box with 3d support in dapper (intergrated)
[08:09] <jrib> gre1: is there an "Access Path" set?
[08:09] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: if It was a desktop, I'd agree with you 100%
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: THings like that are good to know up front.. :)
[08:10] <DJBlits> i got installed soldat for windows on linux, the problem is: how i can open an .lnk file?
[08:10] <DJBlits> i got installed soldat for windows on linux, the problem is: how i can open an .lnk file?
[08:10] <jrib> !repeat > DJBlits
[08:10] <W9ZEB-Lars> Linuturk_code: it's possible that it's just google earth that's strange.
[08:10] <DJBlits> yeah?
[08:10] <gre1> no but i tried setting it to /media/hda8
[08:10] <tomveens> interested?
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars:  Other that that, adding ram helps...
[08:10] <jrib> gre1: does /media/hda8 exist?
[08:10] <Ferramentapenna> I'm trying to use a plustek 9636t scanner, can anyone help?
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: What speed is the lappy and how much ram do you have now
[08:10] <W9ZEB-Lars> Linuturk_code: Jack_Sparrow: running 1024mb of DDR333, intel Pentium M 1.7ghz
[08:10] <jolt> TheGateKeeper Not installed a device driver (ext USB audio).. Supposedly the device supports the generic class USB audio set
[08:10] <gre1> no
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: decent hardware.
[08:11] <tuxtux> ciao
[08:11] <Linuturk_code> W9ZEB-Lars, that's about what I got
[08:11] <jrib> gre1: you have to create the mount point first, in a terminal you can do: sudo mkdir /media/hda8
[08:11] <yukonho_> Has anyone had a successful experience with Scilab?
[08:11] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: it's mostly in Google Earth,  Zooming in and out, the window get's very strange.
[08:11] <jrib> yukonho_: yes
[08:11] <synthjet> yukonho: I had got scilab via apt-get or synaptic
[08:11] <tomcatt> !ubotu backups
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <W9ZEB-Lars> s/get's/gets
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: are you running vesa or real video driver?
[08:12] <jrib> yukonho_: in the bug report for the font problem there is a workaround so you can use the repo version without the font problem
[08:12] <gre1> jrib: thnx it works now
[08:12] <tomcatt> !ubotu backups
[08:12] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: let me check.
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: please dont be S3
[08:12] <jrib> gre1: np
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <tomcatt> !ubotu backup
[08:12] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[08:12] <yukonho_> jrib: So, should I use the one in the repo? Is that the gtk version?
[08:12] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: looks like i810
[08:12] <grodius> Can someone link me to the newest repositories
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: You have the driver installed ok?
[08:13] <jrib> yukonho_: I don't think it is the gtk version
[08:13] <yukonho_> jrib: And where do I find the bug report for it?
[08:13] <jrib> !bug
[08:13] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: appears to be.  Since google earth for linux is still in beta, I suspect that's more likely the problem.
[08:13] <Wavesonics> hi
[08:13] <jrib> yukonho_: if you can't find it there ^, just ping me and I'll see if I can find it again
[08:13] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: it's just that's the only 3d like application I have installed, or a reason to use.
[08:13] <ladydoor> grodius: do you mean the backports?
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: g/e works great for me on nvidia
[08:13] <Wavesonics> I'm trying to get Ubuntu up and running and am having some trobule w\ my gfx card, think u could could help me?
[08:14] <nanday> Sorry for barging in. I'm a Newsforge writer, researching a story. Would anyone be willing to comment publicly on the civility on Ubuntu's forums and Ubuntu's sense of direction compared to Debian's?
[08:14] <jrib> Wavesonics: what trouble are you having?
[08:14] <Jamminpotato> !pastebin>jamminpotato
[08:14] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: alright.  I'll do a bit of research on the i810 driver and see if there's something I can do to improve it's performance.
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: have you run glxgears -printfps?
[08:14] <Vanman> lo all
[08:14] <Wavesonics> I used apt-get to get the restricted drivers, i'm pretty sure they are all installed now, but my refresh rate is still crap, and i dont have nay option other then 60hz
[08:14] <Wavesonics> I have an ATI
[08:14] <ladydoor> hello!
[08:15] <maki> hello
[08:15] <jrib> !fixres > Wavesonics
[08:15] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: just shy of 400fps
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ewww...
[08:15] <W9ZEB-Lars> well, 400-600
[08:15] <jolt> Wave.. might have to get down and dirty and actually edit the xorg.conf yourself
[08:15] <Ferramentapenna> Nanday:  The Ubuntu community is very helpful and friendly to newer users, and we hope to release a end-user ready system before too long.
[08:15] <maki> i have noob question, how to remove *.deb files? dpkg -r ?
[08:15] <ladydoor> !backports > grodius
[08:15] <Wavesonics> i tried that and broke xorg 3 times now lol
[08:15] <jrib> Wavesonics: I think you can use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to set a custom refresh rate but the wiki should explain more
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: fyi my 6600 nvidia gets 5000+
[08:15] <DJBlits> ladydoor hello!
[08:15] <DJBlits> m
[08:15] <philosophyNrock> synthjet: it says no drivers match my printer, although it does autodetect the printer now.  i have the ppd driver file for my printer and i got it from my cd. is there a way i can put it in the printtool folder so it will recognize the driver?
[08:15] <DJBlits> ladydoor hello!
[08:15] <DJBlits> mladydoor hello!
[08:15] <DJBlits> m
[08:15] <DJBlits> sorry
[08:15] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: same on my 5950 Ultra
[08:15] <DJBlits> not for u
[08:15] <smorning_> Hi all,  I am trying to install Dapper server on am IBM xseries 306M with a adaptec ah9405 SATA/SAS controller and I have run into bug #46510   the installer works fine but when the system tries to boot from the hard disk it can not see the disk like bug #53138.  I went ahead and added the modules to the initrd on the hard disk but I am stuck on editing conf/modules.
[08:15] <maki> i have noob question, how to remove *.deb files? dpkg -r ?
[08:16] <DJBlits> how i open in linux an .lnk file!!!?
[08:16] <Jack_Sparrow> W9ZEB-Lars: My guess is the drivers and not installed correctly.. have you looked in your xorg.conf
[08:16] <ladydoor> DJBlits: lol...i was already responding to someone else, haha
[08:16] <Vanman> hmm lots of questions ;)
[08:16] <jrib> maki: do you want to remove the files themselves or what they installed?
[08:16] <W9ZEB-Lars> Jack_Sparrow: will do.  Thanks again for the assistance.
[08:16] <DJBlits> i:P
[08:16] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:16] <Ferramentapenna> .lnk is just a shortcut.  =/
[08:16] <maki> i installed new kernel from deb package
[08:16] <synthjet> philosophyNrock: Sorry, no idea.. it "just worked" for me :)
[08:16] <maki> not from repository
[08:16] <philosophyNrock> synthjet: aw
[08:16] <gutano> does anyone know of a serial terminal program that can deal with hex communication?
[08:17] <azzco> Hi may I ask if anyone can help me a bit with kxdocker? I have some serius problems with it...
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> maki:  Where did you get the kernel
[08:17] <Jamminpotato> the driver name is fglrx not fglxr right?
[08:17] <Ferramentapenna> I need to talk to someone who knows about scanners, or how to use a Plustek 9636T under Ubuntu.
[08:17] <maki> www.kernel.org
[08:17] <jrib> maki: you should be able to remove stuff you installed using 'dpkg -i foo.deb' with dpkg -r as you said, it gets put into the same apt database, so you should be able to use apt-get or synaptic too
[08:17] <DJBlits> can sdomeone help me?
[08:17] <DJBlits> hel pem ?
[08:17] <grodius> Could someone please link me to the newest repository list
[08:17] <Jamminpotato> !fglrx>jamminpotato
[08:17] <synthjet> philosophyNrock: try man pages.. there should be a way to include other drivers
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[08:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:17] <filthpig> Hola. Trying to mount my ntfs drives in Kubuntu Dapper, but after editing fstab and trying "mount /media/ntfs" it gives me "mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /media/ntfs busy". Trying to umount either doesn't help :s Any ideas what might be causing this?
[08:17] <maki> 2.6.17.11
[08:17] <ladydoor> grodius: as i asked, do you mean the backports? i sent you an ubuto explanation of them
[08:17] <Vanman> ok well mine is easy:  I have a fresh install on a sparc server and i installed openssh server.  The server is started and I can connect via the console, but remotely it times out
[08:18] <deflux-> When I use onUnLoad, can I use dojo.io.bind ?
[08:18] <Nutubuntu> Hi - VERY basic oo.o and menu question. For some reason when I upgraded to Dapper, OO Draw didn't make it into my menus. I want to add it -- what command starts it?
[08:18] <Vanman> even though I can see ssh open
[08:18] <synthjet> !printtool > philosophyNrock
[08:18] <ladydoor> grodius: the repository list doesn't change
[08:18] <azzco> grodius: search on google "ubuntu repository" there should be a link to a ubuntu wiki like page I think
[08:18] <jrib> Nutubuntu: oodraw, if it is installed
[08:18] <ladydoor> grodius: you just need to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:18] <Nutubuntu> t/y jrib
[08:18] <ladydoor> Nutubuntu: oodraw
[08:19] <ladydoor> Nutubuntu: you might also install the application menu, which installs the nice debian menu
[08:19] <Nutubuntu> Yep -- it's there ... thanks ladydoor and jrib for that! ... ...  I love this chan :)
[08:19] <Wavesonics> it seems like ANY change i make to my xorg.conf breaks it. if i just change the refresh rate it shouldnt die right?
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Wavesonics: If it dosent like the rate it will die
[08:20] <grodius> ladydoor i need the newest list for my sources.list
[08:20] <Nutubuntu> ladydoor:  I'm sorry to be such a n00b, but what is the application menu?
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> grodius: there is no new list
[08:20] <Ferramentapenna> Nutubunu:  Click 'applications'
[08:20] <grodius> Neeewest.
[08:20] <orbital_fox> hello
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> grodius: are you wanting to move to edgy ?
[08:20] <perkelation> hi
[08:20] <Nutubuntu> Ah -- I see!
[08:20] <orbital_fox> i got a tiny issue
[08:21] <grodius> Jack_Sparrow no im just looking for the dapper repositories, mine have been screwed up and I need the list
[08:21] <Nutubuntu> And there it is under the debian menu ... t/y all
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> grodius: and I linked it for you
[08:21] <orbital_fox> aparntly my ubuntu's repositories are still to firefox version 1.0.8
[08:21] <huck> What's a good program to rip songs from cds? particularly mp3's that I've burned long ago... might possibly be wma files
[08:21] <sivanicon> How do I stop my computer from going into suspend mode?
[08:21] <orbital_fox> how can i get a later version of firefox?
[08:21] <ladydoor> Nutubuntu: oh...the debian menu is a program that provides a menu for a lot of programs ubuntu's misses
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> huck: grip comes to mind
[08:22] <ladydoor> grodius: um...as i said, the list doesn't change.
[08:22] <Ferramentapenna> I need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?
[08:22] <huck> Jack_Sparrow: thanks! I'll check it out!
[08:22] <kromel> bah
[08:22] <slaxy> hi guys.... a silly query.... i close the bottom panel.. which has the 4 workspaces, etc... can anyone tell me how to get it back...
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:22] <ladydoor> grodius: are you trying to upgrade from breezy?
[08:23] <ross> my amarok has stopped working since the latest update i keep getting the message "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers
[08:23] <kromel> hehe I have to do: export DISPLAY=:0   and startx just to get in X
[08:23] <tomcatt> !ubotu mouse
[08:23] <kimo> is there anyway to wget http://server/kernel*rpm but NOT kernel-devel ?
[08:23] <sivanicon> slaxy: right click on the bar and click add to bar and then you can click workspace
[08:23] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[08:23] <grodius> ladydoor yes lol I know. My list was screwed up somehow, and so I dont HAVE it
[08:23] <ladydoor> grodius: oh, ok. give me a second
[08:23] <maki> is somebody from POLAND ?
[08:23] <Jack_Sparrow> slaxy: right cligh and add...
[08:23] <ompaul> !pl
[08:23] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:23] <slaxy> sivanicon : i closed the bar ... there is no bar in the bottom now... i want to get the bar.. sorry i wasnt clear
[08:24] <ladydoor> !paste > ladydoor
[08:24] <Winzy> Salut
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> slaxy: gconf-editor
[08:24] <ompaul> !fr
[08:24] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:24] <Ferramentapenna> I need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?
[08:24] <technel> I forget, what is that command that wipes a terminal's history again?
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> slaxy: would be a place to start..
[08:24] <ross> anyone know how to fix amarok when it says "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers"
[08:24] <synic> technel: clear?
[08:24] <sivanicon> slaxy: or if you still have the bar on the top you can right click and should be able to make another.
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> slaxy: or right click and add panel
[08:24] <Nutubuntu> t/y again ladydoor
[08:25] <technel> synak, no, I found it: tput reset
[08:25] <technel> synak, I don't want it just to scroll past what was shown, I want it to actually clear all history above
[08:25] <mr_claus_> hmm, the tsclient is still talking about wrong font paths
[08:25] <TheGame> anybody here know how to update programs
[08:25] <Jack_Sparrow> slaxy: or right click (on top panel) and add panel
[08:25] <TheGame> i have f-spot .1 and the newest version is .2
[08:25] <mr_claus_> which fontpaths are wrong, the paths of the local xserver?
[08:25] <silentjihad> Hello All
[08:25] <sivanicon> Like I said but better put
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> TheGame: could you be more specific
[08:26] <TheGame> the newest version of f-spot photo manager is 0.2
[08:26] <Wavesonics> yay!! got my refresh rate and resolution up, but i know my monitor can do high rates @ this res then it is allowing me to do
[08:26] <TheGame> and i have 0.1 installed
[08:26] <Wavesonics> any ideas why?
[08:26] <TheGame> but sudo apt-get upgrade doesnt update it
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Wavesonics: did yo add them to xorg as well
[08:26] <slaxy> sivanicon, Jack_Sparrow: i dont think i can add the panel form the top panel.. cos where ever i right click i dont get the option of add ... [i modified the top panel] .. everywhere i can see remove from panel... lol... anyway let me try gconf-editor
[08:26] <Wavesonics> xorg.conf
[08:27] <HnH> Hello, does vsFTPd supports disk space quotas for virtual users?
[08:27] <silentjihad> Hey, does anyone know how to get .Rm and RAM files to work with VLA or Mplayer? Or is there another video player that works well with Realplayer files??
[08:27] <jrib> silentjihad: not sure what vla is but install w32codecs to get them to work in mplayer
[08:27] <jrib> !w32codecs > silentjihad
[08:27] <synthjet> slaxy: click on the empty space, not on an icon
[08:27] <ladydoor> grodius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22063
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> slaxy: you dont have the option of NEW PANEL
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> when you right click
[08:27] <Wavesonics> i just, for my monitor, put: VertRefresh 47-170
[08:28] <synthjet> Jack_Sparrow: I guess he clicked on an appli icon rather than the empty space
[08:28] <kmasta> can I get some help with wine, i'm having opengl issues
[08:28] <Jack_Sparrow> wave add the res you want that yo know is supported in your xorg.conf
[08:28] <Ferramentapenna> I need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?
[08:29] <Wavesonics> well i have the resoltion in there, but when i go to the little "Change Resoltuion" GUI thing it allows the res i want but not the refresh with it
[08:29] <HnH> Does vsFTPd support disk space quotas for virtual users?
[08:29] <Wavesonics> wow u guys r actualy nice and healpfull as a community!
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> we try
[08:29] <slaxy> ok guys i got add panel... thx all :)
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Unless you are trying to run WIne :)
[08:29] <Wavesonics> haha
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> np slaxy
[08:29] <DarkAudit> Will the new nvidia drivers be backported to Dapper, or will I need to wait for Edgy?
[08:30] <IndyBC> Hello. In the homepage of audacious it says to put some repos in the sources.list file
[08:30] <IndyBC> I did.
[08:30] <Wavesonics> no, actually once i get my res and refresh set i want to try to finish install compiz
[08:30] <IndyBC> Now, what should I do, in order to get it?
[08:30] <kmasta> how do I fix this "fixme:wgl:X11DRV_setup_opengl_visual Failed to find a suitable visual"
[08:30] <synthjet> kmasta: were you playing mplayer?
[08:31] <silentjihad> Is there any way to cue synaptic instences?
[08:31] <NickGarvey> how do I tell apt-get to only update certain packages?
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyBC: once you have added the sources.. try synaptic and looking for the programs/packages they want you to install
[08:31] <silentjihad> !w32 codecs
[08:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <kmasta> synthjet: no, trying to get wine to work
[08:31] <jrib> NickGarvey: apt-get install package1 package2
[08:31] <NickGarvey> jrib: that will upgrade them?
[08:31] <Zajjko> How do you uninstall a driver in ubuntu 6.06
[08:31] <jrib> NickGarvey: iirc
[08:31] <IndyBC> Jack_Sparrow: ok, thanks johnny dep ;)
[08:31] <Zajjko> !schedule
[08:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[08:31] <kmasta> synthjet: I've been told it means opengl isn't working or i don't have opengl installed or something
[08:31] <HnH> Does vsFTPd support disk space quotas for virtual users?
[08:32] <Ferramentapenna> I need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?
[08:32] <synthjet> kmasta: sorry, didnt play with wine much :)
[08:32] <Wavesonics> So i'm trying to set up Compiz using this guide: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916&page=2 and i have it installed but when I restart the GUI it doesnt work
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Ferramentapenna: have you searched the supported hardware list or done any google'ing on your own.
[08:32] <kmasta> synthjet, are u atleaste familiar to the error?
[08:32] <Ferramentapenna> Jack:  Aye, I have, and tried the fixes I saw, but no luck.
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !compiz
[08:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:33] <ucordes> anybody using ktorrent here?
[08:33] <synthjet> kmasta: nope.. but did you try installing opengl?
[08:33] <urbanpt> hi
[08:33] <kmasta> synthjet: thats what i'm asking, how to I install opengl
[08:33] <kmasta> synthjet: cause i guess that means its not installed yet
[08:33] <Jack_Sparrow> ucordes: I installed it but never used it, I got hooked on gnutella
[08:34] <DarkAudit> !nvidia
[08:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> I gotta go..
[08:34] <urbanpt> I'm with a weird problem at hand. I've got a server with only one nic. This nic has 2 ips (eth0, public and eth0:0 private -192.168...)
[08:34] <Zajjko> How do you uninstall a driver in ubuntu 6.06?
[08:34] <ucordes> Jack_Sparrow gtk gnutella is great but i can't download like big isos or stuff there
[08:34] <urbanpt> And I can't get the dhcpd server to run on eth0:0
[08:34] <DarkAudit> nvidia released new Linux drivers on the 24th. Will they be backported to Dapper?
[08:34] <ucordes> Jack_Sparrow: what gnutella client do you use?
[08:35] <Ferramentapenna> I need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?
[08:35] <ucordes> what does DHT mean in ktorrent and what does it mean when there is a red cross next to it, anybody?
[08:35] <synthjet> kmasta: not sure.. try this maybe: http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/231.html
[08:35] <kmasta> ok, i type lspci and it says ATI technologies unknown device
[08:35] <urbanpt> It says Please write a subnet declaration in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment to which interface eth0:0 is attached.
[08:35] <ladydoor> DarkAudit: that sounds like a question for the backports section of the forum!
[08:35] <kmasta> i have an X1600XT
[08:35] <ladydoor> DarkAudit: www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:35] <DarkAudit> ladydoor: omw :)
[08:35] <ladydoor> DarkAudit: what does that mean? me stoopid
[08:36] <silentjihad> Realplayer and the Helix player are the same thing right?
[08:36] <synthjet> kmasta: ubuntuforums.org should have this covered
[08:36] <kmasta> okie dokie
[08:36] <grodius> Can someone link me to a guide on how to unpack a tarball
[08:36] <kmasta> the thing is, i don't think ubuntu is recognizing my card
[08:36] <silentjihad> grodius what do you need?
[08:37] <Ferramentapenna> Grodius:  Just right-click it and hit extract, or use the terminal and type "tar tarballname_version.tar"
[08:37] <grodius> silentjihad i just want to know
[08:37] <urbanpt> Are there any network gurus here?
[08:37] <Intangir> grodius: in ubuntu you should be abel to just double click it
[08:37] <synthjet> kmasta: which video card?
[08:37] <grodius> what about installing the things that are inside the tar
[08:37] <synthjet> kmasta: oops I mean graphics card
[08:37] <ajopaul_> !boot > ajopaul_
[08:37] <teicah> grodius: man tar, man gzip
[08:38] <urbanpt> grodius: ./configure && make; sudo -c "make install"
[08:38] <kmasta> synthjet: no matter I just found the installing fglrx drivers on ubuntu and see that my X1600XT is supported
[08:38] <Ferramentapenna> I need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?
[08:39] <tomcatt> !beowulf
[08:39] <silentjihad> Anyone know of any good games for Linux? And where/how to get them?
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beowulf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <kmasta> son of a...large driver files :-@
[08:39] <kmasta> time to go get a good book...
[08:40] <kmasta> what does this mean "Make sure that you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list before doing these steps."
[08:41] <kmasta> and how do i make sure that i have them set that way
[08:41] <cycom> What are the bigiron packages for?  What arch and stuff?
[08:41] <grodius> urbanpt I cant run the command configure
[08:42] <grodius> urbanpt im still trying to install whats in the tarball
[08:42] <kjm> Hi everyone.  I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu.  I just bought a wireless keyboard/mouse combo, and it is connected to the machine through a KVM switch.  Grub isn't accepting any keyboard input.   Anyone can help?
[08:42] <Intangir> grodius: just open it, (it should save archive roller or something)
[08:42] <Intangir> then extract it..
[08:42] <kjm> should add.  Haven't had any problems with the KVM switch before.
[08:42] <Intangir> then browse the directory
[08:42] <Intangir> it should have archive roller i mean
[08:43] <ic56> urbanpt: are you still waiting for dhcpd.conf answer?
[08:43] <Masqy> I've just finished compiling vlc 0.8.5, but... it does not show me the WMV3 format...  has someone dealt with this problem (or compiled vlc 0.8.5)
[08:43] <Ferramentapenna> I need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?
[08:44] <sivanicon> What are the packages i need for building from source?
[08:44] <kjm> sivanicon - gcc
[08:44] <jrib> !compile > sivanicon
[08:44] <jbroome> build-essential
[08:44] <urie1> helllo
[08:44] <urie1> guys i need help
[08:44] <kjm> or, listen to those two
[08:44] <urie1> i got ubuntu 6.06
[08:44] <urie1>  and i want to install mplayerplugin
[08:44] <urie1> with no luck so far :\
[08:44] <kjm> !uriel automatix
[08:44] <Intangir> check the wiki
[08:44] <jrib> urie1: have you enabled multiverse?
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uriel automatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <kjm>  I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu.  I just bought a wireless keyboard/mouse combo, and it is connected to the machine through a KVM switch.  Grub isn't accepting any keyboard input.   Anyone can help?
[08:45] <jbroome> !automatix
[08:45] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[08:45] <Intangir> kjm: sounds like its not hooked up right ;)
[08:45] <kjm> heh, sure.  Except I'm typing from it right now.
[08:45] <urie1> they will help me there ?
[08:45] <Intangir> and you reboot and grub cant read it?
[08:45] <Intangir> make sure you enable usb keyboards/mice from your bios
[08:45] <kjm> Just, can't scroll through menu in Grub, which makes it a challenge to get into windows when necessary
[08:46] <kjm> Intangir - even if it is plugged in through PS/2?
[08:46] <maki> what are diffrences between wine and winehq?
[08:46] <Intangir> kjm: a challenge? or impossible?
[08:46] <kjm> Intangir - an impossible challenge?
[08:46] <Intangir> kjm: oh .. well if its ps2 i dont see why grub would have any problem with it
[08:46] <kjm> Me either....
[08:46] <grodius> Ok so I have extracted the tar but now I have a directory but I havent installed it
[08:46] <Intangir> grub doesnt do any fancy hocus pocus to read the keybaord
[08:46] <opexoc> I have heard that C language is portable. Is it really true ? And why ? beacuse it is some weird issue for me.
[08:46] <andrewy> it doesnt have the drivers to do it
[08:46] <Ferramentapenna> I need help installing a Plustek 9636T scanner to scan some artwork.  I've tried changing the .conf file for XSane, but no luck.  What should I do?
[08:46] <andrewy> yes, it is, opexoc..
[08:47] <urie1> kjm can u give me more detiles plz ?
[08:47] <kjm> opexoc - if you stick to the ANSI-C libraries and nothing OS Specific, then yes it is portible
[08:47] <ladydoor> grodius: did you get that link to my (edited down to defaults) menu.list?
[08:47] <opexoc> andrewy: Is it result of defintion of this language ? or what ?
[08:47] <ompaul> opexoc, this is not #C
[08:47] <Intangir> opexoc: its cause damn near every platform has a C compiler
[08:47] <grodius> ladydoor yeah dont worry about it
[08:47] <andrewy> opexoc: the language itself is portable, but if you do OS specific things, it isn't. you will need to recompile it for another platform though
[08:47] <urie1> :(
[08:47] <grodius> ladydoor im working on new things lol
[08:47] <urie1> it seems that the channel is dead
[08:47] <thomaslai> hi, my Firefox version is still 1.5.0.5, when will the repo contain the latest version 1.5.0.6?
[08:47] <tabman> ok this is something strange, I'm facing 2 problems in Ubuntu openoffice which I'm not facing on windows 1. if you open OpenOffice.org 2.0\program\classes, there is a sandbox.jar file present in windows but not in case of Ubuntu & the other problem is of getting an exception when I run a pre given macro inside Impress
[08:48] <ladydoor> grodius: cool
[08:48] <Intangir> urie1: this channel isnt dead
[08:48] <ompaul> opexoc,  and libs on one platform may not work that way on another
[08:48] <Intangir> there are like 800 people talking nonstop
[08:48] <urie1> not this channel
[08:48] <urie1> the automatix
[08:48] <urie1> and i dont have detiles
[08:48] <urie1> i just want to install the plugin :\
[08:48] <Intangir> oh
[08:48] <kjm> uriel - sure.  Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse combo.  S510 model.  Hooked to 2 computers through a linksys KVM switch.  Cannot scroll through Grub menu on boot.  Both keyboard and mouse are connected to KVM switch (and computers) through PS/2 connections.
[08:48] <kjm> uriel - Dapper installed.
[08:48] <opexoc> ok.. but for example pascal... is it portable ?
[08:49] <ompaul> !offtopic
[08:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:49] <urie1> give me site with detiles howto anything
[08:49] <Intangir> urie1: the plugin for firefox? i dont remember the exact package name but there is a tutorial for installing flash and mplayer plugins on the wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <Intangir> search for firefox mplayer or something like that
[08:49] <ompaul> !restricted > urie1
[08:49] <ladydoor> thomaslai: it's hard to say. it may make it into the backports before edgy, it might not.
[08:49] <phillipsjk> I decided to try a "USB 2.0 Internal 6-in-1 Card reader" The driver appears to work (shows in device manager), but media causes it to disonnect. any ideas?
[08:49] <thomaslai> ladydoor: thanks!
[08:50] <ladydoor> thomaslai: np...sorry i don't know better :-/
[08:50] <ladydoor> thomaslai: although there is a way to install it :-)
[08:50] <ladydoor> thomaslai: if you feel you need it
[08:50] <thomaslai> ladydoor: do you mean download the tar ball from mozilla.org?
[08:51] <ladydoor> thomaslai: yeah, but you'd also have to use dpkg-divert to change the name of ubuntu's firefox package
[08:51] <abonilla> Hi, is it ok today to move from Dapper to Edgy, or is it really broken?
[08:51] <thomaslai> ladydoor: I am not sure how to do it
[08:52] <Wavesonics> compiz
[08:53] <Wavesonics> wheres the Ubuntu guide to install Compiz again?
[08:53] <ladydoor> thomaslai: sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox. then you could put the new tarball in /opt, install it, and put a symlink to firefox in /usr/bin
[08:53] <ompaul> !compiz > Wavesonics
[08:53] <ompaul> Wavesonics, in the message ubotu sent you
[08:53] <ladydoor> thomaslai: but only if you're *desparate* for the update
[08:53] <Wavesonics> aahh cool thank man!
[08:53] <ladydoor> abonilla: it's still under heavy development
[08:54] <ladydoor> abonilla: so you can use it at your own risk...it's still going to be buggy and far from stable. x may break.
[08:54] <teicah> last grodius
[08:54] <Wavesonics> Ok so i followed this guide and when I try to start a XGL session it just goes blank then back to the logon screen. any ideas why?
[08:54] <ompaul> thomaslai, we don't tend to use yesterdays packages for the reason outlined in the url I am about to get ubotu produce
[08:54] <abonilla> ladydoor: I know, but I tried moving to an old dapper to edgy yesterday and bork, the grub boot loader and the strange framebuffer broke my startup
[08:54] <ompaul> !timetable
[08:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:54] <ladydoor> abonilla: if you *really* want edgy...maybe install it on a separate partition
[08:54] <thomaslai> ladydoor: thanks. I think I will rather wait as I am not familiar with command line, as I am just a novice in ubuntu
[08:54] <urie1> how come nobody knows anything aobut this
[08:54] <urie1> its very popular plugin
[08:54] <ladydoor> abonilla: weird.
[08:55] <urie1> nothing useful in the sites u gave me
[08:55] <ladydoor> !patience
[08:55] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:55] <ompaul> thomaslai, read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[08:55] <abonilla> ladydoor: I know the risk, etc. it's just to know if as of today a big merge is going on and maybe some framebuffer is occuring
[08:55] <Linuturk_code> urie1, what are you asking about?
[08:55] <abonilla> !edgy
[08:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:55] <abonilla> !schedule
[08:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:55] <ladydoor> abonilla: ah
[08:55] <Foogle> Hello I want to edit the runlevels on a fresh install is there a gui version that I can apt-get
[08:56] <abonilla> ladydoor: did you move?
[08:56] <urie1> i am asking about installing mplayer plugin for firefox
[08:56] <ladydoor> abonilla: to?
[08:56] <abonilla> dapper -> edgy
[08:56] <Foogle> I want to shorten my boot time
[08:56] <Linuturk_code> urie1, have you searched the wiki and forums? I know there is a HOWTO out there for it
[08:56] <thomaslai> ompaul: thanks
[08:56] <ladydoor> urie1: yes, and if nobody knows, nobody knows
[08:56] <urie1> yes
[08:56] <urie1> i found in the forums guides
[08:56] <urie1> but they are too olds
[08:56] <ladydoor> abonilla: ah. no. as ubotu said, you might check out #ubuntu+1
[08:56] <urie1> and doesnt work with current
[08:56] <abonilla> thanks
[08:57] <Linuturk_code> urie1, doesn't work with what current?
[08:57] <urie1> 1 of the reason is that the mplayer files were removed from apt
[08:57] <Jamminpotato> does anyone here have gmailFS working?
[08:57] <Foogle> Hello I want to edit the runlevels on a fresh install is there a gui version that I can apt-get ?
[08:57] <urie1> current situation
[08:57] <ladydoor> !repeat
[08:57] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:57] <ompaul> urie1, see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer if current is edgy you are in the wrong channel
[08:57] <urie1> dapper
[08:57] <urie1> g
[08:57] <Jamminpotato> does anyone here have gmailFS working?
[08:58] <ladydoor> urie1: they should be in one of the repos...do you have universe & multiverse enabled?
[08:58] <technel> I have a vfat partition and an external hard drive also formatted as fat32. For some reason, everytime I copy the folder ACDC from the external to the music partition, it creates two identical folders: ACDC and acdc. When I delete acdc, ACDC goes away too...what is going on?!
[08:58] <ladydoor> !repeat
[08:58] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:58] <Linuturk_code> urie1, well, since I don't know, and apparently no one in here knows, so post in the forums in the thread you found. someone must know who isn't on irc
[08:58] <Wavesonics> --I'm installing my ATI drivers and followed the wiki, but i try to do aticonfig and it says it is not found. any ideas why?
[08:58] <urie1> dude
[08:58] <urie1> the plugin is a different project
[08:58] <urie1> !!!
[08:58] <Intangir> urie1: sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer
[08:58] <urie1> argh i need to go bbs
[08:58] <Intangir> thats it
[08:58] <Intangir> i got that off the wiki
[08:59] <urie1> yea that not up to date
[08:59] <Intangir> which i told you to check twice
[08:59] <jacques> Dr_Wills are you there
[08:59] <Intangir> add the repositories
[08:59] <Intangir> then try it
[08:59] <kjm> hmm, so I tried rebooting, and still nothing from the keyboard.  Also, my other box (Fedora FC5) won't take keyboard input - until I startx, which I can't do....because this keybaord can't type startx at the command line.
[08:59] <grodius> Can someone tell me about checkinstall
[08:59] <ompaul> !checkinstall
[08:59] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[08:59] <kjm> Could it be a USB issue, even though I am plugged in through PS/2 through an adaptor?
[08:59] <urie1> E: Couldn't find package mozilla-mplayer
[08:59] <jacques> Dr_Willis are you there
[08:59] <urie1> people whats up with u
[08:59] <urie1> ok n/m
[08:59] <urie1> bb iwthin 15 min
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> Huh? Just got here. :)
[08:59] <ladydoor> urie1: you need to enable universe & multiverse
[08:59] <ladydoor> urie1: seriously
[08:59] <jacques> Hi  how you been doing
[09:00] <ompaul> !repos > urie1
[09:00] <ladydoor> !patience > urie1
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> jacques,  on dayshift this week. just got off work.
[09:00] <Linuturk_code> !somethingrandom > urie!
[09:00] <Linuturk_code> ;p
[09:00] <Otacon22> wich is the shell command to start the gnome screensaver?
[09:01] <IndyBC> Any systray plugin for bmp?
[09:01] <Wavesonics> I'm doing: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and it says it works but then I try to use it "fglxrinfo" and it says it doesnt exist
[09:02] <Intangir> urie1: i just tried it on another machine here , mozilla-mplayer is still there
[09:02] <Samuli^> Wavesonics, hmm, glxinfo?
[09:02] <Intangir> urie1: enable the repositories
[09:03] <thomaslai> Anyone has tried AmaroK? The Play Audio CD option is greyed out. Anyone knows why?
[09:03] <Intangir> thomaslai: i use xmms, it plays CDs
[09:03] <grodius> I need help installing a program. I have check install but i need to know what to run
[09:03] <jrib> grodius: what program are you trying to install?
[09:04] <thomaslai> Intangir: yes, I can use Sound Juicer to play CDs too, but I really like AmaroK, so will like to play all music staffs in AmaroK
[09:04] <Fatih`> hello
[09:05] <jacques> thats hecktic
[09:05] <grodius> jrib The editor and shell for Python
[09:05] <Fatih`> I can't use mpd
[09:05] <jacques> what work do you do
[09:05] <Fatih`> error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused
[09:05] <jrib> grodius: what is the name of it?
[09:05] <Intangir> thomaslai: maybe it needs some kinda plugin? or CD library
[09:05] <Fatih`> Any ideas why, it doesn't work
[09:05] <Intangir> look up the package on packages.ubuntu.com and see if it has any recommended packages you didnt install
[09:05] <grodius> jrib: Python-2.4.3.tgz
[09:05] <Fatih`> and telnet localhost gives me
[09:05] <thomaslai> Intangir: do you have Amarok? I am not sure what plugin is missing
[09:05] <Fatih`> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[09:05] <Fatih`> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[09:06] <Intangir> thomaslai: no i never tried it. ive heard alot about it though, surely it can play CDs
[09:06] <Intangir> unless your missing something
[09:06] <jrib> grodius: python is already installed, have you tried just typing 'python' in a terminal?
[09:06] <JustinCase> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to recognize my 400gb external usb 2.0 HD. Suse and fedora  core both have no probs and I have compared contrasted and googled. Anyone else having the same prob? Dmesg error says "usb 1-2: device descriptor read/8, error -110"
[09:06] <marshall_> hey guys
[09:06] <thomaslai> Intangir: yes, I am equally puzzled as well
[09:06] <marshall_> how do you use a .patch file?
[09:06] <Intangir> try what i suggested
[09:06] <Intangir> thomaslai: look up the package on packages.ubuntu.com and see if it has any recommended packages you didnt install
[09:06] <marshall_> i just downloaded the last-exit save song patch
[09:07] <lasindi[SH118] > Hi all, is there a file that you can put in your home directory that behaves the same way as /etc/hosts (i.e. lets you give aliases to IP addresses without root access to the machine)?
[09:07] <marshall_> and i have no idea what to do with it
[09:07] <thomaslai> Intangir: okay. Thanks
[09:07] <Samuli^> Intangir, Have you tried it with several cd's?
[09:07] <jacques> Dr_Willis:We spoke the other day about having twinview. i totally messed up and i could start the gui. Is there maybe a more detailed howto that i could use. I have a nvidia FX 5500
[09:07] <jrib> marshall_: with the 'patch' command, usually: patch -p0 < file.patch    or just   patch < file.patch, see man patch for more info
[09:07] <Otacon22> wich is the shell command to start the gnome screensaver?
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> jacques,  all i learned.. i learned from the nvidia docs and that gentoo example/wiki page.
[09:08] <Intangir> thomaslai: maybe install kdemultimedia-kio-plugins
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> jacques,  and several years worth of tweaking X config files experience.
[09:08] <NickGarvey> !ext3
[09:08] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[09:08] <marshall_> jrib:  if i do that command, the .patch file will apply itself to the right file?
[09:08] <jrib> marshall_: you have to be in the right location, that is where the -p0 stuff comes in
[09:09] <jacques> Dr_Willis: I see, ok will try again
[09:09] <jrib> marshall_: man patch is very readable, and does a good job explaining it
[09:09] <marshall_> jrib:  what man patch
[09:09] <nibby> Hello, someone can tell me how to install nvidia driver under ubuntu 6.06 ?
[09:09] <marshall_> jrib:  *whats man patch?
[09:09] <jrib> marshall_: type 'man patch' in a terminal.  It will take you to the manual page for patch
[09:09] <thomaslai> Intangir: Thanks buddy
[09:09] <thomaslai> Intangir: I am trying now ...
[09:10] <barongas> when I apt-get upgrade all the compiz/xgl-related packages are "held back", why could that be?
[09:10] <marshall_> jrib:  ok
[09:11] <JustinCase> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to recognize my 400gb external usb 2.0 HD. Suse and fedora  core both have no probs and I have compared contrasted and googled. Anyone else having the same prob? Dmesg error says "usb 1-2: device descriptor read/8, error -110"
[09:11] <DJBlits> ello?
[09:11] <DJBlits> someone can help me ?
[09:11] <DJBlits> yes, i hope
[09:11] <DJBlits> this me problem
[09:11] <DJBlits> hello?
[09:11] <DJBlits> some can help me!?
[09:12] <nibby> Hello, someone can tell me how to install nvidia driver under ubuntu 6.06 ?
[09:12] <jrib> !nvidia > nibby
[09:12] <dixie> DJBlits: ask the question, don't ask who can answer
[09:12] <DJBlits> yeah. how i can use .dll in linux???? ubuntu
[09:12] <nibby> jrib: thanks
[09:12] <santa99> good evening i would like nautilus to open maximised where can i configure this ?
[09:12] <Abst> Is there any way to list all processes in ubuntu and kill one?
[09:12] <JustinCase> top
[09:13] <DJBlits> yeah. how i can use .dll in linux????
[09:13] <lamego> DJBlits, you can't
[09:13] <santa99> Abst, ps -A | grep processyouraresearching
[09:13] <jrib> Abst: system > administration > system monitor
[09:13] <DJBlits> wy not?
[09:13] <Abst> santa99: Thanks
[09:13] <jacques> !nvidia > jacques
[09:13] <dixie> DJBlits: how you want to use .dll from windows in linux ?
[09:13] <JustinCase> killall "name of process"
[09:13] <lamego> DJBlits, because .dll are windows libraries, not linux libraries
[09:13] <andrewy> i'm trying to help a friend with ubuntu.. it was working fine for a while, but he said the sound just stopped working and i can't figure out why. /proc/asound/pcm and /proc/asound/card0 exist, but amixer doesnt show a pcm or master device. he has a soundblaster 24bit. anyone have any ideas?
[09:14] <DJBlits> i dont know
[09:14] <lamego> you canb only use them from wine
[09:14] <DJBlits> i come here to quest it
[09:14] <DJBlits> if it ;s cant
[09:14] <DJBlits> we dont can play games
[09:14] <lamego> DJBlits, what are you trying to achieve ?
[09:14] <santa99> Abst, to kill the process only enter sudo kill processyouaresearching_pid_number
[09:14] <dixie> DJBlits: use wine
[09:14] <DJBlits> ...
[09:14] <woodgrain> can synaptic install gd on my ubuntu box?
[09:14] <jrib> woodgrain: what is "gd"?
[09:14] <lamego> woodgrain, apt-cache search gd
[09:15] <lamego> jrib, i guess it'ts the graphical lib
[09:15] <woodgrain> lamego, what's apt-cache do?
[09:15] <DJBlits> use wine?
[09:15] <DJBlits> i use wine to open
[09:15] <JustinCase> man apt-cache
[09:15] <DJBlits> .exe
[09:15] <lamego> woodgrain, it will search the apt repositories for a given string
[09:15] <DJBlits> i dont want open .dll
[09:15] <nuxord> Hi, i am looking for a good C compiler, can someone direct me to the name of one?
[09:15] <DJBlits> but i need to use it
[09:15] <woodgrain> JustinCase, oh, I might try that.
[09:15] <DJBlits> in game
[09:15] <DJBlits> curse
[09:15] <DJBlits> if i play me game
[09:15] <JustinCase> gcc
[09:15] <lamego> nuxord, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:15] <jrib> lamego: oh I see
[09:15] <lamego> it will install gcc
[09:15] <DJBlits> his wont do anything
[09:15] <santa99> nobody about the setting i have to set in nautilus to start nautilus maximised
[09:15] <jrib> !enter > DJBlits
[09:15] <woodgrain> lamego, gd is a library, would something like that even be in a repository?
[09:15] <jrib> santa99: you /could/ use devilspie
[09:16] <lamego> woodgrain, sure :)
[09:16] <santa99> jrib, whats devilspie ?
[09:16] <nuxord> ok, i have it installed, but how can i open it? o dont see it in the applications section?
[09:16] <DJBlits> so i get an bug, and have to turn off me pc
[09:16] <jrib> !info libgd2
[09:16] <ubotu> libgd2: GD Graphics Library version 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.33-2ubuntu5.1 (dapper), package size 126 kB, installed size 352 kB
[09:16] <DJBlits> thats me problem
[09:16] <lamego> woodgrain, apt-cache search libgd
[09:16] <Nutubuntu> Has anyone installed ruby on rails? What do I need to install -- besides ruby itself -- for ruby on rails?
[09:16] <jrib> !devilspie
[09:16] <ubotu> devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[09:16] <santa99> jrib, found the package
[09:16] <cliffd> none of the icons in my system tray are click able, like my batter icon, and network and wireless signal indicator, any ideas?
[09:16] <santa99> jrib, will take a look on it
[09:16] <thomaslai> Intangir: too bad, it does not work
[09:16] <urie1> back
[09:16] <urie1> listen guys
[09:16] <urie1> i am not idiot
[09:16] <woodgrain> lamego, whats diff between gd abd libgd?
[09:17] <urie1> i added univese and multi !
[09:17] <nuxord> I gave GCC installed, but how can i open it? i dont see it in the applications section...
[09:17] <urie1> its still not working (check it even on ur machine
[09:17] <DJBlits> do any one know, how i can use me game
[09:17] <DJBlits> soldat
[09:17] <jrib> nuxord: it is a command line tool
[09:17] <lamego> woodgrain, none, libgd is the library
[09:17] <cdubya> was there a recent update to dapper? I'm getting an update manager notification (ever since I installed the latest wine deb from winehq) about 158 updates being available
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> egads...
[09:17] <jrib> urie1: please post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link
[09:17] <JustinCase> gcc myprogram.c -o myprogram
[09:18] <santa99> jrib, sudo devilspie says: No s-expressions loaded, quiting
[09:18] <lamego> cdubya, it must be your wine repository
[09:18] <DJBlits> someone can help me with an game? plz chat private then
[09:18] <nuxord> i dont understand...
[09:18] <cdubya> ah
[09:18] <lamego> cdubya, I do not recommend to keep non ubuntu repos on the list
[09:18] <jrib> santa99: first, don't sudo it please!  Take a look at the wiki page ubotu linked a minute ago
[09:18] <cdubya> lamego, I know...I took it off as soon as I got done d
[09:18] <woodgrain> lamego, when should I use apt and when should I use synaptic?
[09:18] <DJBlits> !
[09:18] <cdubya> 'loading the wine package
[09:18] <lamego> nuxord, gcc is a compiler, not an editor
[09:18] <santa99> JustinCase, would you like to know how to compile a C-program ?
[09:18] <lamego> nuxord, compilers are not launched from menus
[09:19] <santa99> jrib, ok thx
[09:19] <santa99> !devilspie
[09:19] <Intangir> urie1: http://intangir.soulfire.cc/sources.list
[09:19] <ubotu> devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[09:19] <Intangir> heres mine
[09:19] <Intangir> mine works
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> nuxord,  you may want to read a few beginner guides -->  http://tldp.org/guides.html
[09:19] <lamego> nuxord, ig you are looking for a nice ide, try code::blocks
[09:19] <Otacon22> wich is the shell command to start the gnome screensaver?
[09:19] <cliffd> anyone know why my system tray icons would stop responding to clicks, like my wireless signal strenght, gaim volume, clock etc etc ?
[09:19] <jrib> Otacon22: gnome-screensaver I think
[09:19] <narnia> hi
[09:19] <lamego> wolki, synaptic is just a graphical interface for apt
[09:19] <Otacon22> jrib, it isn't installed
[09:19] <lamego> i mean, woodgrain ^
[09:20] <Otacon22> i have to install it for use...
[09:20] <jrib> Otacon22: then maybe you are using xscreensvaer
[09:20] <narnia> I can't get ubuntu 6.0.1 to start up
[09:20] <jrib> Otacon22: xscreensaver even
[09:20] <nuxord> so where can i get an editor, i need to do some C programming =\
[09:20] <lamego> Otacon22, gnome-s<TAB>
[09:20] <woodgrain> lamego, so ctrl-f in synaptic is about the same as apt-cache search ____ in apt?
[09:20] <Otacon22> already done
[09:20] <Wavesonics> gah wahts the xgl channle?
[09:20] <jrib> nuxord: gedit will do
[09:20] <jrib> !xgl
[09:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:20] <DJBlits> i got an game with dll files, but how i can play me game.... that dll files wont work
[09:20] <lamego> nuxord, go to synaptic search for: development environment
[09:21] <Nutubuntu> nuxord:  there's gedit, there's nedit, there's bluefish ... there are a lot of choices. What features do you want in an editor?
[09:21] <Soulfly> nuxord: you have one in the menu..   or run "gedit"
[09:21] <Intangir> Wavesonics: ubuntug-xgl or xgl
[09:21] <urie1> what is wrong :\
[09:21] <Intangir> oops. ubuntu-xgl
[09:21] <Intangir> urie1: http://intangir.soulfire.cc/sources.list
[09:21] <Intangir> copy that into your sources.list
[09:21] <Intangir> apt-get update
[09:21] <Nutubuntu> DJBlits:  have you looked at the wine website to see if your game will run under wine?
[09:21] <urie1> mplayer-mozilla
[09:21] <Intangir> apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[09:21] <urie1> right ?
[09:22] <narnia> my computer freezes at the "Booting Kernel, OK" message
[09:22] <urie1> oh
[09:22] <JustinCase> nuxord: check out scite
[09:23] <urie1> ok i'm updating lets see
[09:23] <narnia> anyone have any ideas as to why my computer freezes at "Booting Kernel, OK"
[09:23] <narnia> ?
[09:24] <santa99> jrib, that wasn't the thing i was searching for
[09:24] <JustinCase> narnia: have you just changed your kernel?
[09:24] <narnia> nope
[09:24] <Nutubuntu> Has anyone installed ruby & rubygems?
[09:24] <jrib> santa99: didn't you want nautilus to always start maximized?
[09:24] <Nutubuntu> I've got ruby but I'm not clear how to install rubygems
[09:24] <narnia> just inserted the Ubuntu CD, and tried loading it up
[09:24] <JustinCase> narnia: when did it stop working
[09:25] <santa99> jrib, yes but i couldn't figure out how to do this
[09:25] <narnia> when I first inserted the CD
[09:25] <urie1> ok
[09:25] <urie1> urs works
[09:25] <urie1> thx
[09:25] <Intangir> urie1: finally ;)
[09:25] <Intangir> urie1: you know all i did was follow the directions off the wiki
[09:25] <JustinCase> narnia: have you tried booting another pc from this cd?
[09:26] <jrib> santa99: did you try any rules?
[09:26] <narnia> yup
[09:26] <narnia> it works on the other pc
[09:26] <narnia> could it be something to do with my BIOS settings?
[09:27] <santa99> jrib, didn't saw the forum thread before i will go trough it before maybe it can help
[09:27] <jrib> santa99: ok, let me know if it still doesn't work and I'll give it a go
[09:27] <JustinCase> narnia:maybe but it is *trying* to boot so at least it got past the post
[09:27] <santa99> jrib, ok thx
[09:28] <JustinCase> narnia: have u tried other linux install or live cd's like knoppix?
[09:28] <narnia> not yet
[09:29] <narnia> will try that now
[09:29] <lamego> narnia, you should try to install using the alternate cd
[09:29] <narnia> ok
[09:29] <Nutubuntu> Has anyone installed ruby & rubygems? I have installed ruby 1.8 via Synaptic but am not clear how to install gems ... anyone ?
[09:29] <Gargoyle> hello
[09:29] <JustinCase> narnia: what he said!
[09:30] <Gargoyle> Can anyone help with postfix and mysql virtual alias maps.
[09:30] <Gargoyle> ?
[09:30] <ryanpg> hi all... anyone able to recommend good lesson planning software?
[09:30] <Cyberai> hey, I'm running dapper and ever since running apt-get upgrade about a wee ago I've had thsi weird behavior. I'm typing and I hold downthe shift key to type some tuff in caps and when I hit some key (don't know which one) I am logged out all of a sudden. It's almost like X crashes. Anyone else seeing this?
[09:31] <JustinCase> ryanpg: are u running edubuntu?
[09:31] <mirak> is there a way to exit gnome from command line ?
[09:31] <neildarlow> can anyone tell me in which repository libsensors3 exists?
[09:31] <jrib> Cyberai: shift-backspace restarts X if you are using xgl I think
[09:31] <Cyberai> AHA
[09:31] <Cyberai> I did turn on xgl
[09:32] <jrib> mirak: gnome-session-save --kill
[09:32] <mirak> jrib: thanls
[09:32] <narnia> yay, I got Slax to load up
[09:32] <narnia> I think it's a fairly old version though
[09:32] <ladydoor> ryanpg: you might check out #edubuntu
[09:32] <ladydoor> :-)
[09:32] <mirak> jrib: is there a way to restart a gnome session without actually loging out ?
[09:33] <JustinCase> narnia: alternate CD!
[09:33] <brentdax> I have an SMTP server that's down for repairs, and I'm worried servers may start dropping mail soon.  Is there an Ubuntu package I could quickly configure on my desktop to temporarily hold the incoming mail?
[09:33] <EVRAMP> hi, has someone tried cvscedega? i have problem: no sound i games. could you help me pls. thanx
[09:33] <jrib> mirak: not sure what you mean.  Do you want to login as a new user and keep the current one logged in?
[09:34] <Nutubuntu> ryanpg:  I ran across some open-source education software sites recently. Don't remember specifically about lesson-planning software, but I'd imagine it would be there ... would you like the links if I can find them again?
[09:34] <bean-oh> anyone here using NetworkManager for wifi?
[09:34] <brentdax> bean-oh: I am.
[09:34] <mirak> jrib: no, just restart everything like gnome-panels etcetera
[09:34] <narnia> d/l alternate CD now
[09:34] <Magicdead> i got a problem when emulating flash player 9 with firefox in wine, i this one flash movie you can input text, now when i enter a special character like  the input field turns blank and i don't see anything anymore, but the message arrives correctly and so on, flash just seems to be unable to draw text lines with special characters (and it can't be a flash error, as it works fine on linux flash)
[09:34] <lamego> brandon_, emails will be ketp on the relays for several hours
[09:35] <mirak> jrib: doing the session start process without logging in from gdm
[09:35] <santa99> jrib, (if (is (application_name) "nautilus") (maximize))
[09:35] <Magicdead> in the emulated firefox i can enter the chars and it displays them correctly
[09:35] <santa99> jrib, thats what in my nautilus.ds
[09:35] <mirak> jrib: for exemple the splash screen etcetera
[09:35] <jrib> mirak: oh I don't know
[09:35] <neildarlow> lamego: sensible ones keep them for several days :)
[09:35] <brentdax> lamego: you talking to me, or are you replying to something posted before I came in?
[09:35] <santa99> jrib, then i start it with devilspie nautilus.ds
[09:35] <Nutubuntu> ryanpg:  if you would like them I've pastebinned them here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22080
[09:35] <santa99> jrib, but if i start nautilus it doesn't start maximized
[09:36] <jrib> santa99: try: (if (is (application_name) "File Manager") (maximize))
[09:36] <ladydoor> !anyone > bean-oh
[09:36] <bean-oh> brentdax, do you have problems staying connected to an access point? seems like it gets confused easy, drops the connection and then has to reconnect far more often than it should
[09:36] <Nutubuntu> Anyone: Question on how to install ruby & GEMS (or rubygems?): I have installed ruby 1.8 via Synaptic but am not clear how to install gems ... anyone ?
[09:36] <lamego> brentdax, another person
[09:36] <jrib> santa99: and it's best if you just put nautlus.ds in ~/devilspie/ and start devilspie normally
[09:36] <santa99> jrib, okey
[09:37] <jrib> santa99: also if you run 'devilspie -d' you will get debugging info, which is how I know the application_name for nautilus
[09:37] <santa99> jrib, but where is devilspie
[09:37] <jrib> santa99: oops I meant ~/.devilspie/, just create it if it isn't there
[09:37] <brentdax> bean-oh: Not often, but I think I used to--it probably has more to do with your wireless card's drivers and the access points than NetworkManager itself.
[09:37] <bean-oh> ladydoor, sorry about that, i should know better. :D
[09:38] <santa99> jrib, is the ~ = /home/user/.devilspie ?
[09:38] <ladydoor> bean-oh: lol. no worries. i would've said something more productive, but i *don't* use it. sorry
[09:38] <ladydoor> bean-oh: (wireless i mean)
[09:38] <jrib> santa99: yes, so your file is going to be /home/user/.devilspie/nautilus.ds
[09:38] <lamego> Nutubuntu, you get ruby gems from the source : ?
[09:38] <bean-oh> brentdax, yeah, i'm thinking its probably the crappy cisco airo card/driver. it usually works fine, but it seems like if i have a less than optimal connection, its really flaky.
[09:38] <fuoco> do i need internet connection when installing ubuntu ?
[09:39] <desertfish> Hi, all.  I can't figure out which package to install to enable  m4a decoding in banshee/gstreamer
[09:39] <lamego> fuoco, no
[09:39] <Nutubuntu> lamego:  Is that where I'd begin? Couldn't find it in Synaptic, so figured I'd have to d/l from source, but wanted to check first. I *am* a n00b ...  :)
[09:39] <brucedes> does anyone know how I can convert a .dmg from OS X into a standard iso file in ubuntu?
[09:39] <JustinCase> fuoco: no but you do need the CD's
[09:39] <lamego> Nutubuntu, according to site, gems are beta, it would explain not being on synaptic ;)
[09:39] <desertfish> is there a good resource on the Web I can look at to avoid " ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-m4a" from banshee?
[09:39] <fuoco> JustinCase: more than just the alternative install cd ?
[09:39] <liran_> when i try to hibernate it fails and system just shutsdown, when i resume my swap is corrupted and i have to apply mkswap on the partition. is this a known issue?
[09:39] <Nutubuntu> lamego:  That's logical :)
[09:39] <brentdax> bean-oh: if it's really bad, you may just have to get a dedicated wireless card.
[09:40] <Nutubuntu> Okay ... off I go, thanks!
[09:40] <santa99> jrib, and so i have to put devilspie in the session startup ?
[09:40] <jrib> santa99: yes
[09:40] <bean-oh> brucedes, my hunch is that you won't be able to. your best bet is to build it from source (if offered)
[09:40] <ryanpg> Nutubuntu, ty
[09:40] <Nutubuntu> y/w, ryanpg
[09:40] <santa99> jrib, ok thx was exactly the program i was searching for
[09:40] <Nutubuntu> Hope some of that helps
[09:40] <brucedes> its a backup of my os x install disks which i made before my system went belly up, and I don't think linux can burn them natively
[09:40] <bean-oh> brentdax, its passible. at least enough to suffer with until my company upgrades my thinkpad
[09:41] <JustinCase> fuoco:have a luke at the ubuntu install docs... gives you all the options
[09:41] <ryanpg> Nutubuntu, there's just a TON of "education" sites out there, most are incomprehensible :)
[09:41] <brentdax> bean-oh: Alright.  Just keep an eye on the upgrade manager, I guess.
[09:41] <Nutubuntu> ryanpg:  Figures, doesn't it? "Those who can, do; those who can't do, teach" -- and  those who can't teach put up education websites, I guess... ;)
[09:42] <bean-oh> brentdax, yeah definitely. its the best thing going wireless-wise, so i have a lot of hope that it will get better than better.
[09:42] <Madeye> guys, I got new machine and want to install ubuntu; it's 64 AMD with 160GB HDD, how many partition do you recommend to have ?
[09:43] <Hexidigital_> Madeye::  are you installing any other OSes on it?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> Madeye,  depends on the job you want to do with it.
[09:43] <JustinCase> Madeye: dual boot or just linux?
[09:43] <ladydoor> Madeye: well, in addition to a swap partition and a / partition, i recommend at least a /home partition
[09:43] <ladydoor> Madeye: if you're a gamer, you might add /opt
[09:43] <Linuturk_code> Madeye, i personally use three. One at the front of the drive for swap, one about 10 gigs for the system drive (varies with how much you want to install) and the rest as the /home directory
[09:43] <krank_> Madeye I created "/" home and swap
[09:43] <Nutubuntu> Madeye:  As ladydoor said -- you want at least /home separate from everything else
[09:43] <bean-oh> brucedes, i misread. either way, i'm not sure there is dmg -> iso converter for linux. if nothing comes up with google, you might be on your own
[09:43] <ryanpg> Nutubuntu, you're onto something there! I mean you would expect educators to be clear... but let me tell you; if you want to explore horrid examples of sharing information just google "education"
[09:43] <DigitalNinja> I have an email server with /var/log/mail.log. It should rotate once a week but it rotates when it wants to. Can someone help me with this?
[09:43] <brentdax> Madeye: What do you plan do with the space?  Video?  Music?  Games?
[09:44] <Madeye> brent, web server
[09:44] <krank_> madeye: my swap was 1 gig, the other two equal sized, about 24g each
[09:44] <brentdax> What kind of content on the web server?
[09:44] <kjm> Having troubles with wireless PS/2 keyboard and Grub......grub doesn't like the keyboard (i.e. can't scroll through grub menu).
[09:44] <Normal_ooc> i have a question
[09:44] <brucedes> oh dear bean-oh :(
[09:44] <brentdax> (re Madeye)
[09:45] <bean-oh> brucedes, no access to another mac?
[09:45] <brucedes> nope
[09:45] <Normal_ooc> i'm looking to install ubuntu, but its not autobooting from the cd
[09:45] <Madeye> brentdax, krank_  web server serving xml documents, some streaming and little testing
[09:45] <Normal_ooc> am i doing something wrong?
[09:45] <bean-oh> DigitalNinja, have you looked at the crontab?
[09:45] <DigitalNinja> Yup!
[09:45] <brucedes> all my os x disks are f*ed and this backup is all I have left
[09:45] <qatsi> can anyone tell me how do i edit a file which is in a .deb ?
[09:45] <brentdax> Madeye: A dedicated server or a desktop machine with a web server running on it?
[09:46] <brentdax> Madeye: (i.e. are you planning to use it as a desktop as well?)
[09:46] <Madeye> brentdax, no, not a desktop at all
[09:46] <upgrdman> in my fstab, i want to make a listing to mount a samba share. how do i tell it what username and password to use.... i do not want to use credentials=/file ... but rather put it strait in
[09:46] <kattekiksen> Normal_ooc, What do you mean?.. Does the cdrom not boot or is it ubuntu that doesn't boot?
[09:46] <qatsi> anyone ? how to edit a .deb file ?
[09:46] <DigitalNinja> bean-oh: I've looked at crontab, logrotate, syslog.conf, syslogd-listfiles etc...
[09:46] <brentdax> Madeye: Then I recommend a big fat /var partition.  That's usually where web documents go, as well as log files and databases.
[09:46] <ladydoor> !repeat
[09:46] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:46] <acidian> anyone know how to compile and install wine from source?
[09:47] <JustinCase> acidian: gentoo? 8)
[09:47] <brentdax> Madeye: You might even want separate partitions for /var/www, /var/log, /var/mysql, etc.
[09:47] <qatsi> ubotu told me im being ignored :( hehe
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about told me im being ignored :( hehe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> acidian: sure.
[09:47] <_lupine> acidian: ./configure; make; make install is the usual
[09:47] <acidian> JustinCase: not on gentoo :P
[09:47] <ladydoor> acidian: no...but do you know of the wine repositories for ubuntu's apt? they're up-to-date
[09:47] <acidian> I did all those things
[09:47] <acidian> but its telling me it cant find a libwine.so.l when trying to run it afterwards
[09:48] <brentdax> Other than that, a root partition is probably about enough.  Maybe a small /home, but I don't know if you really need that.
[09:48] <_lupine> (side note: you can install gentoo's portage tree in ubuntu)
[09:48] <Normal_ooc> kattekiksen: i reboot my machine, it reads that theres a cd in the cdrom, but then loads windcows normally, it doesnt load ubuntu freecd and i cnat find the install.exe on the cd itself
[09:48] <brentdax> (re Madeye again)
[09:48] <qatsi> is there anyone here who knows how to edit a file inside a .deb ?
[09:48] <_lupine> acidian: install libwine as well?
[09:48] <ladydoor> !repeat
[09:48] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:48] <acidian> ladydoor:  needed to change the source to bypass some opengl setting in wine to play wow :)
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> Normal_ooc: there is no install.exe
[09:48] <_lupine> qatsi: it's just an AR archive
[09:48] <ladydoor> acidian: ahhhhhh
[09:48] <kjm> !patience
[09:48] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:48] <ompaul> !checkinstall > acidian
[09:48] <ladydoor> acidian: sorry, i don't know
[09:48] <brucedes> since I can't convert it, could I make a blank .iso image (which is bootable), then mount the dmg and copy the files over, then burn it?
[09:48] <_lupine> !libwine
[09:48] <ubotu> libwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Dummy Package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB
[09:49] <bean-oh> DigitalNinja, what about /etc/logrotate.conf ?
[09:49] <qatsi> _lupine: uhmm, but the archive mannager dosnt open the file :(
[09:49] <_lupine> eh, it's a dummy now
[09:49] <ladydoor> _lupine: zie wants to install from source
[09:49] <DigitalNinja> bean-oh: Yup!
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> acidian: there are instructions on the winehq.org page for WoW that tell you exactly how to download the source, apply the patch, install the dependencies and configure it to run wow.
[09:49] <_lupine> Qatsi: try ar -x <file> from the terminal
[09:49] <ompaul> acidian, your call on the changes in the sources but that checkinstall will allow you uninstall it later if you need to
[09:49] <SonicChao> Someone told me I needed a sniffer to search ports so people couldn't hack me. Is there a good one in the repos?
[09:49] <_lupine> ladydoor: I know... he's just missing the .so
[09:49] <bean-oh> DigitalNinja, hmm, not sure.
[09:49] <_lupine> maybe it's been built but not installed?
[09:49] <acidian> fyrestrtr: I was following it, but it wasnt working at the compiling part
[09:49] <ladydoor> _lupine: oh.
[09:49] <brucedes> or at least a way to non-destructively format, then I could use an OS X disk to mount the dmg to a partition then install from there
[09:49] <dalfz> how can i check what process is occupying my soundcard?
[09:49] <qatsi> _lupine: thank you very much :) ill try that
[09:49] <acidian> ompaul: kk
[09:49] <Normal_ooc> fyrestrtr: then how do i get it to boot from cd?
[09:49] <_lupine> dalf: fuser <sound device file>
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> acidian: did you go to the page that talks about the dependencies, and install the ones for dapper?
[09:50] <_lupine> or fusers. I foget
[09:50] <JustinCase> _lupine:really? portage, eh? wow!
[09:50] <_lupine> forget*
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> Normal_ooc: tell your bios to boot from the cd.
[09:50] <_lupine> not recommended, really, but cool in the extreme :)
[09:50] <acidian> fyrestrtr: nope, that I didnt
[09:50] <_lupine> beats the pants off of apt-rpm
[09:50] <kattekiksen> Normal_ooc, Well, Have you ver tried linux?.. There's to ways to solve your boot problem.. either theres a "boot list key" (It will say which before loading windows, in the black boot thingie where i displays your PC's specs.. Probably f8 or f11.. 2) You can define your boot order in your BIOS setup. (To go to BIOS you sjould probably press f2 or DEL)
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> acidian: then you couldn't have gotten past the ./configure stage, it would have barked at you with errors.
[09:51] <acidian> I did configure, didnt see any special errors
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> acidian: is this the first time you have compiled something?
[09:51] <_lupine> acidian: is the .so in the source tree?
[09:51] <Normal_ooc> katte: this'll be my first intro to linux, usually a win user
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> acidian: all errors are special.
[09:51] <acidian> fyrestrtr: yeah
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> acidian: you probably didn't know what to look for :)
[09:51] <_lupine> (and did you make install as root/sudo?)
[09:51] <Normal_ooc> brb, gonna try those two suggestions, i'll be bvack if they dont work
[09:51] <acidian> _lupine:  I dont know
[09:52] <sfp> hi room
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> acidian: go back to the winehq page, and read the instructions carefully, and don't skip any parts. I have compiled wine from source many times, and it can be done, just follow instructions.
[09:52] <ossie> hi guys i have just installed mysql and dont know the default user password
[09:52] <ossie> ?
[09:52] <_lupine> ok, first look for .so files in the source tree. Also check your /lib for them. If in source tree but not /lib, then simply "sudo make install" to fix
[09:52] <qatsi> _lupine: it says that i dont have the command ar, should I install something like ar ?
[09:53] <_lupine> presumably, yes. Should be a part of coreutils though
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> ossie: there isn't one. mysql -u root -p (hit enter when it asks you for the password, then set one)
[09:53] <sfp> xwindows won't start on my dapper drake installation. it says the gdm won't start. will the installation cd fix this or is there a quicker way to repair the installation
[09:53] <SleepySocks> hey everyone, when is the next release of Edgy Eft suppose to be released?  Isn't it suppose to be today?
[09:53] <ossie> cheers fyrestrtr
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> sfp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:53] <kmasta> how do i "Make sure that you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:53] <micahcowan> qatsi, ar is in the binutils package
[09:54] <qatsi> _lupine: strange, i have coreutils installed
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> SleepySocks: no, it will be in November.
[09:54] <qatsi> micahcowan: ok, ill try that :)
[09:54] <sfp> thanks fyrestrtr!
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> !schedule > SleepySocks
[09:54] <kjm> kmasta : sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list - uncomment the lines with universe and multiverse on them.  run apt-get update
[09:54] <Madeye> brentdax, How large the swap can be ? I mean if I have 5GB of RAM can I create a 5GB swap ? or it doesn't work ?
[09:54] <ossie> fyrestrtr, that doesnt work, its like it has a password
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> Madeye: swap can be as large as you want.
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> ossie: it doesn't unless you set one yourself.
[09:55] <Nutubuntu> lamego (or anyone):  Okay ... having installed rubygems -- should I install rails via Synaptic? or via rubygems "gem instlal rails -y" ?
[09:55] <ossie> its a fresh install fyrestrtr
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> ossie: did you install both the client and the server? (sudo apt-get install mysql-server)
[09:55] <ladydoor> SleepySocks: no, not until october
[09:55] <kmasta> thank you kjm
[09:55] <kjm> 5 GB is huge.....with 5 GB of RAM, do you really need that much swap though?  The system will rarely need it.....unless you do things that fill that 5 GBs....
[09:55] <marshall_> booyaka] 
[09:55] <ossie> fyrestrtr, yes i have the server running
[09:55] <SleepySocks> hi ladydoor, according to this, its today for knot2  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:56] <brentdax> Madeye: Don't waste much space on a swap file.  The sorts of loads that servers see basically mean that if it starts swapping, it's already lost.
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> ossie: then just type this mysql -u root -p (hit enter, it will ask for a password, hit enter -- don't type anything, just hit enter)
[09:56] <kjm> Although, starting a "swap = 1.5*Physical memory is not a debate I need/want to start.
[09:56] <kjm> kmasta : no problem
[09:56] <Madeye> brent, 5GB is reasonable ?
[09:56] <SleepySocks> I was wondering if anyone has heard.
[09:56] <qatsi> brb
[09:56] <sethk> brentdax, depends on the number of users and the amount of ram.  I wouldn't say that is a generally true statement
[09:56] <kmasta> kjm: sometimes i just need things spelled out for me
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> SleepySocks: it would be wise to ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:56] <gnomefreak> 5 gigs of ram you dont *need* any swap
[09:56] <kjm> kmasta : don't we all from time to time :)
[09:56] <sethk> Madeye, 5 gb is a lot
[09:57] <SleepySocks> Kinda funny a bot on channel channed sent me a private message with the link to that release schedule - cool..
[09:57] <Hexidigital_> ossie::  try using your sudo password... mysql -u root -p {enter} {enter password}
[09:57] <ossie> fyrestrtr, definatley doesnt work,,,, i haveinstalled and used mysql before, but cant remeber how i did it last time, it is asking for a password this time though
[09:57] <kmasta> kjm: tru dat
[09:57] <ossie> cheers K
[09:57] <ossie> cheers Hexidigital_
[09:57] <_lupine> compile 5 revisions of KDE from source (in parallel) and then say that ;)
[09:57] <ajhtiredwolf> hey, could anyone help me with my ati drivers?
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> ossie: again, when it asks you for a password, just hit enter. If that doesn't work, then you have set a password and you must go through the steps in resetting it.
[09:57] <sethk> Madeye, unless you have hundreds of users, you probably won't need swap
[09:57] <ladydoor> !anyone
[09:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:57] <_lupine> but yes, for normal use 5GB is more than enough to do without swap
[09:58] <_lupine> might as well have a bit though, just in case
[09:58] <sethk> Madeye, swap can also be added using the normal file system, although the access speed for that type of swap is a lot slower
[09:58] <micahcowan> someone remind me how to get reverse-depends on a package?
[09:58] <ossie> i think i might just unistall and reinstall might be easier i think
[09:58] <_lupine> (since you've presumably got a few TB of disc space spare ;) )
[09:58] <ossie> thanks for yoru help though guys
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> I don't know about that, my 2GB RAM machine hits the swap a lot, especially when running two or more java applications.
[09:58] <sethk> Madeye, but normal file system swap is ok as a just in case type of thing
[09:58] <Madeye> sethk, seems I should read more on partioning heh
[09:59] <sethk> Madeye, possibly.  the other thing is, if you have a ton of disk space, there isn't much cost to saving a chunk for swap
[09:59] <kjm> If you have 5 GB on physical drive to spare, it wouldn't hurt to partition out that much swap.
[09:59] <kjm> ^_^ What he said
[09:59] <_lupine> ^^^ what they said ^^^ ;)
[09:59] <Madeye> Well
[09:59] <ajhtiredwolf> I just convert part of my disk to fat32 and use that as swap
[09:59] <Madeye> Thank you guys, you were really helpful :-)
[09:59] <_lupine> ?!
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> ajhtiredwolf: swap is its own partition type.
[10:00] <_lupine> what happened to 0x82 ?
[10:00] <kjm> You can't use fat32 as swap .. .. . swap is swap.
[10:00] <ajhtiredwolf> I mean as a swap drive
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> ajhtiredwolf: you can't do that either.
[10:00] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf: swap is a different filesystem
[10:00] <ajhtiredwolf> heh, i dont think you get what im saying
[10:00] <kjm> still no.   You need to allocate x GB as SWAP, which has its own filesystem
[10:00] <ajhtiredwolf> I use it to "swap" files between linux and windows
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> unless you mean swap as in 'I'll save files there to swap between windows and linux'
[10:00] <ajhtiredwolf> yes
[10:00] <Intangir> ajhtiredwolf: ya you can do that
[10:01] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf: ah. that's not "swap," that's "shared"
[10:01] <SleepySocks> can't wait for zfs filesystem
[10:01] <kjm> ah, well.  Then, yes :)
[10:01] <Intangir> also i heard of a program on windows that reads ext3
[10:01] <ajhtiredwolf> lol, I use the word swap :-P
[10:01] <sewi> hello, where can I find xfonts-base-transcoded package with fixed fonts? In previous releases this package was present but in dapper I cannot find it in repositories. Any idea?
[10:01] <ladydoor> SleepySocks: whats's zfs
[10:01] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf: meh
[10:01] <_lupine> aaargh, self definitions ;)
[10:01] <ompaul> SleepySocks, please go to #ubuntu+1 for edgy stuff
[10:01] <nagyv_> I have just installed ubuntu breezy on an old IBM thinkpad 600. To be able to upgrade it I should find out the MAC address of its pcmcia ethernet card. (It has to be registered with the firewall.) How can I do this?
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> sewi: apt-cache search should help
[10:01] <Nutubuntu> Ruby on rails question -- should I install rails via Synaptic? or via rubygems "gem instlal rails -y" ? Or does it even matter which?
[10:01] <kjm> Intangir : Yes, windows has an ext3 driver.  But, it is quite unstable, and I don't think you get write permissions with it.
[10:01] <lamego> Intangir, google.com ext2 windows
[10:01] <ajhtiredwolf> So hey does anyone know about ATI drivers in here? Getting them to work heh.
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> nagyv_: ifconfig -a
[10:01] <lamego> kjm, it is stable and you do have write permissions with it
[10:01] <sethk> ladydoor, zfs is a new nifty file system in solaris 10
[10:02] <Intangir> whats different about zfs?
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> ajhtiredwolf: what about them?
[10:02] <ladydoor> sethk: ah
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> ajhtiredwolf,  all i know i leaned from the !ati bot url
[10:02] <sethk> gladydz meaning zettabyte
[10:02] <nagyv_> fyrestrtr: thx
[10:02] <sethk> ?
[10:02] <SleepySocks> hang on ladydoor, I'll get a link.
[10:02] <kjm> lamego : Alright.  ty.  Haven't used it in awhile.  Last I tried ext3 support on windows, it wasn't.
[10:02] <sewi> fyrestrtr: I've done this and there are not there, on the ubuntu packages this package is only for releases previous than dapper
[10:02] <ajhtiredwolf> well I am actually running fedora at the moment, but its the same installing them with ubuntu and fedora right?
[10:02] <sethk> I meant z meaning zettabyte.  must have hit tab there  :)
[10:02] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf, same binary drivers, yes
[10:03] <SleepySocks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zfs
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> ajhtiredwolf: not really, they are the same drivers, but the install process is a bit different.
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> ajhtiredwolf,  fedora is rpm based... and ubuntu is apt based. :P so other then being completely diffrent systems.. its the same. :)
[10:03] <lamego> ajhtiredwolf, but the install process is not the same
[10:03] <mots> hello, i want to install ubuntu server, how much Harddiskspace does the default server install need?
[10:03] <ajhtiredwolf> well id ask them in #fedora... but they are evil over there :P
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> mots: I believe 5 GB
[10:03] <SleepySocks> you know how apples new lepaord is suppose to have a time machine feature built into the filesystem...that what zfs can do
[10:03] <lamego> 5 GBs is for the desktop :P
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> ajhtiredwolf: try your luck in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:04] <ajhtiredwolf> fyretrtr: i'll give it a go
[10:04] <SleepySocks> bye everyone...
[10:04] <_lupine> Dr_Willis: apt-rpm + synaptic
[10:05] <_lupine> problem solved
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> you know, I have tried in vain to get sun to allow me to download solaris 10 -- they just won't let me. How does that work in their 'open source' strategy?!
[10:05] <klassicd> does anyone else just see HTML text on this page
[10:05] <klassicd> http://saaboc1.reachlocal.net/
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> _lupine,  blasphmy! :)
[10:05] <Tom__> Hi, When I try Gnomebaker in Ubuntu, it says that a plugin is missing for audio/mp3. Any idea?
[10:05] <_lupine> :D
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> Tom__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> fyrestrtr,  i downloaded it.. it stank. :P
[10:06] <Tom__> Thanks. Looking
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> Dr_Willis: does it come with the java sun desktop?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> fyrestrtr,  no idea - i ran it for like 3 days.. and hated it..   I  cant even rember what desktop it used.. CDE i thought.
[10:07] <naa> http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/  <-- ubuntu always wins
[10:07] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone here have experience with acid rip?
[10:07] <jbroome> when i was in college
[10:07] <jbroome> oh wait, that was ripped on acid
[10:08] <_lupine>  is the guy who was looking for 'ar' still here?
[10:08] <_lupine>  it's in binutils
[10:08] <finalbeta> Arg, I'm getting so sick of this. Sometimes my desktop becomes semie unresponsive. I can still do stuff in programs, but I can't switch betwene programs. Windows no longer move/minimize/maximise.
[10:08] <micahcowan> that was quintin, _lupine
[10:08] <micahcowan> and yeah, I already told him :p
[10:08] <_lupine> oh, ok :)
[10:08] <finalbeta> I've poster like 10 bugs already, and only one had a useless reply
[10:08] <ladydoor> finalbeta: what wm/de do you use?
[10:08] <_lupine> cba to read the backscroll
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: are you running xgl?
[10:08] <mots> so noone knows, how much space the server install takes?
[10:09] <_lupine> mots: around 500MB
[10:09] <_lupine> erm, I'll just check
[10:09] <_lupine> sorry, no. 1.9GB
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> hah told you it was close to 5 GB :P
[10:09] <micahcowan> finalbeta, hopefully 10 bugs on different issues, right? Don't lose hope. There are 50k bugs, and only a couple hundred folks on the bug squad. It takes a while to get to some things.
[10:09] <admin_> whats a good, easy graphical backup program?
[10:09] <mots> 2GB?
[10:09] <finalbeta> Yep 10 diffrend issues
[10:10] <_lupine> (at least, that's what my server is at right now. Obviously, "some" is given to other stuff - but not a great deal)
[10:10] <finalbeta> I'm using gnome, not running xgl
[10:10] <mots> well, i'll take debian network install then
[10:10] <micahcowan> finalbeta, ooc, what version of ubuntu?
[10:10] <synic> finalbeta: you using nfs or samba or anything?
[10:10] <_lupine> call it 2GB and you'll definitely get a semi-minimal server install into it
[10:10] <kmasta> when i type "chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86_64.run ./ati-driver-installer-8.27.10 --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" it says "chmod: unrecognized option `--buildpkg'"
[10:10] <admin_> whats a good, easy graphical backup program?
[10:10] <ladydoor> !repeat
[10:10] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:10] <hansheng> edgy flash plugin can't view?
[10:10] <mots> _lupine: i only want to have a kernel and apt
[10:10] <ladydoor> hansheng: #ubuntu+1
[10:10] <lamego> kmasta, because you don't know what you are doing, chmod is a single command :)
[10:10] <finalbeta> micahcowan, ubuntu dapper 6.06 fully patched , synic not at the moment.
[10:10] <mots> i want to install freevo on it
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> kmasta: put && between .run and ./
[10:11] <opexoc> About some other distro ( maybe someone knows ): Does Slackware support some program which can satisfy dependencies of package which we would like to install ?
[10:11] <micahcowan> finalbeta, ooc, what's your launchpad acct name?
[10:11] <kmasta> OH WAIT, misread something
[10:11] <finalbeta> micahcowan, finalbeta
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: how much ram, how much hard disk, what kind of video driver?
[10:11] <admin_> whats a good, easy graphical backup program?
[10:11] <ladydoor> opexoc: isn't there a #slackware channel?
[10:11] <_lupine> TBH, not much difference between debian-2.6 kernel and ubuntu server dists
[10:11] <_lupine> ..except debian has webmin!
[10:11] <_lupine> mots: debootstrap is what you want then
[10:11] <_lupine> 200MB
[10:11] <opexoc> ladydoor: ok
[10:11] <mots> well
[10:11] <mots> sounds good
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> !backup > admin_
[10:11] <ossie> Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) kepp getting this but i definatley set no password
[10:12] <micahcowan> finalbeta, j-greenhouse?
[10:12] <lamego> !backup > lamego
[10:12] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, it's ati, but I don't believe it's the video driver, I can still work inside the current program, just can't switch between programs. Windows are unresponsive.
[10:12] <finalbeta> micahcowan, yes
[10:12] <ladydoor> admin_: please quit with the repeating. as ubotu said, if nobody knows, nobody will answer you
[10:12] <colapso> hola
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> ossie: where do you get that?
[10:12] <ossie> from the terminal fyrestrtr
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> ossie: using which command?
[10:12] <_lupine> you'll get the very basics - of course, if you want even more minimal, you could probably fit it onto 32MB
[10:12] <ossie> sudo mysql -u root -p
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> ossie: no sudo
[10:13] <ossie> I tried adding my user to the mysql group and it still dont work
[10:13] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, the freesing of windows is on a dell inspiron 8200 laptop 40 gig , 512Mb ram. Restarting x server fixes it.
[10:13] <ossie> dont work without sudo either fyrestrtr
[10:13] <Nutubuntu> I have a ruby on rails question -- should I install rails via Synaptic? or via rubygems "gem instlal rails -y" ? Or does it even matter which?
[10:13] <ossie> whoops
[10:13] <ossie> i did set password and i just remembered it
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> ossie: then you have set a password.
[10:13] <ossie> sorry for the time wasting guys
[10:13] <ossie> cheers fyrestrtr
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> okay, next time -- do something ... like remember passwords :P
[10:15] <colapso> hola
[10:15] <finalbeta> I think it's a gnome problem. just like this one : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/56359
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: it happens randomly you say? How much swap do you have?
[10:15] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, 512Mb
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: mmm ....
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: in my tests, things like that are a swap problem. Activate the system monitor applet, and watch the hard disk sensor when this happens, if you hard disk is spinning like crazy, increase your swap amount.
[10:16] <DogZern> Possible to install Ubuntu without using a LiveCD at all?
[10:17] <erUSUL> !alternate
[10:17] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[10:17] <jrib> DogZern: you can use the alternate cd
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: on my system with 512 RAM, 1 GB swap, 80 GB hdd and ATI card, swap gets hit a *lot*
[10:17] <NickGarvey> what is the command for the installer on the live cd?
[10:17] <mots> does anyone know a good howto for debootstrap
[10:17] <_lupine> contrarily, my Kubuntu with 512MB RAM and 2.5GB swap gets almost no swapping at all
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> mots: people in #debian should
[10:17] <_lupine> mots: the debian.org install guide has a good section
[10:17] <sewi> Can anybody check if you have in Dapper such a font as: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-2 (for example using xfontsel)
[10:17] <ladydoor> NickGarvey: it's on the desktop
[10:17] <_lupine> just edit the repo you point to
[10:18] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, when it happens I will not be able to start the monitor. I can leave it on top I guess, bit nasty to work then.
[10:18] <_lupine> or "man debootstrap", of course :)
[10:18] <ladydoor> NickGarvey: it'll say "install" or something...i don't remember
[10:18] <NickGarvey> ladydoor: I'm doing it through a X forwarded ssh session
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> _lupine: you probably don't have the same use profile as I do :) I'm a bit abusive with my pcs.
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: just activate the panel applet.
[10:18] <sewi> If yes, what package gives these fonts?
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: you don't need to run the actual monitor.
[10:18] <_lupine> true enough, I guess. Mine don't do too much more demanding than the occasional kernel recompile
[10:19] <jrib> sewi: I have something like it, I have one with a 1, one with an 11, and one with a 16 instead of yours that ends with a 2
[10:19] <ladydoor> NickGarvey: ohh
[10:19] <ladydoor> *shrug*
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> _lupine: I run dual screens, on average two database servers, two java applications, plus evolution, firefox, four or five tabs in gnome-terminal, and a couple of nautilus windows open. With that, and a program run, my swap get hit a lot.
[10:20] <_lupine> probably wouldn't be the cause of X dying a deaded death, though
[10:20] <_lupine> ah... java and evolution
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> _lupine: the killer combo :)
[10:20] <NickGarvey> ladydoor: its ubiquity btw
[10:20] <AsadR> i get a Grub Error 17 whenever i try to boot, how do i re-install GRUB? my linux partition is /dev/hdd1
[10:20] <jrib> sewi: if you tell me how I can find the corresponding file to the font on my system I can lookup the package
[10:20] <_lupine> so it's not that you're doing a lot, it's just that you're using, ahem, "complex" programs to do it with :)
[10:20] <Tom__> fyrestrtr. That worked. Gnomebaker is cool with mp3 now. Thanks!
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> !grub > AsadR
[10:20] <KLarth> I can't get speakers on HP laptop w/ Polk audio to work right.  Noise comes out, but it loops.  Any help?
[10:20] <ladydoor> NickGarvey: oh, cool
[10:20] <sewi> jrib: this is the problem I have, I need the fonts ending with -2. In the previous releases I used to install xfonts-base-transcoded package which is not available in dapper
[10:21] <DogZern> How exactly do you install without the CD? I got the information 'alternate' but it seems there's still a CD involved. Having my CD-Reader well.. "destroyed".
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> KLarth: sounds like speakers are working fine then.
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> !installation
[10:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:21] <_lupine> On average, I'm thunderbird + firefox + one or two background games; amarok; openoffice; kopete and konversation
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> how can my friend enable the ht-using in ubuntu?
[10:21] <sewi> jrib: the file with the fonts should be named 6x12-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz
[10:21] <_lupine> typically I use 60% ram and no swap
[10:21] <sewi> jrib: at least it was named like this in previous releases
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> MetaMorfoziS: tell him to sudo apt-get install linux-686
[10:22] <KLarth> fyrestrtr: can't plahy
[10:22] <finalbeta> ok thnx for the info fyrestrtr , will try.
[10:22] <Masqy> Does someone use VLC here? Can you check if the subtitles disappear after 2-3 seconds when you pause a .avi file?
[10:22] <jrib> sewi: all I have is a /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/clR6x12-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz that comes from xfonts-base
[10:22] <KLarth> can't play music
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> KLarth: have you checked the wiki to see if there are any known issues with your laptop?
[10:23] <KLarth> Yes.  No known issues
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> thx!
[10:23] <sewi> jrib: so I don't know why this package was removed from ubuntu and is still in debian in all releses sarge testing and unstable
[10:24] <jrib> sewi: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfonts-core/+bug/39560 if you didn't file this, you may want to comment
[10:25] <Aar0n444> Hi
[10:25] <flodine> anyone running a intel with 4mb cache'
[10:25] <ladydoor> hi
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> KLarth: what have you tried as far as troubleshooting?
[10:25] <flodine> i need help
[10:25] <Aar0n444> How can I install ubuntu on my laptop when the cd drive is dead?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> !installation > Aar0n444
[10:25] <gekko`> does anybody know how to paste the clipboard from a X-Server to a VT?
[10:25] <flodine> will ubuntu support 4mb of cache
[10:25] <Aar0n444> Thanks
[10:25] <matthewf> how much more of a overhead does normal ubuntu have over xubuntu ?
[10:26] <matthewf> in general that is
[10:26] <sewi> jrib: thanks for the link
[10:26] <adz21c> Hi, wondering if someone could help me with an issue. I seem to be having an issue with sound. Teamspeak doesn't seem to pick up sound information (just mutes mic and output) also I seem to fail cedega audio tests. To solve this I found I can delete /var/lib/alsa/asound.state then reboot and everything works. However after rebooting a second time teamspeak and cedega fail again, same fix solves this, but frankly it's getting annoy
[10:26] <adz21c>  this?
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> gekko`: you mean, copy something from X, to a console session? Or copy something from X into a terminal session?
[10:26] <eliran> sup
[10:26] <phisher1> Hi
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry all, I had to run earlier.. Irealized it was 11:30 and I had to be across town by 12..  I did not mean to leave anyone hanging with a problem.
[10:26] <teekay_> hi
[10:26] <klassicd> does anyone know of a plugin that will allow you to change file permissions with nautilus when connected via ftp or ssh?
[10:27] <MrFeetio> when i download files to my desktop they dont show up on my desktop, does anyone know whats wrong?
[10:27] <gekko`> fyrestrtr: i mean copy something from X to a terminal session (ctrl+alt+f1)
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> klassicd: if you are connected via ssh, use chmod to change permissions.
[10:27] <phisher1> secret
[10:27] <eliran> ok
[10:27] <Jack_Sparrow> MrFeetio: how are you downloading them and from where?
[10:27] <ladydoor> gekko`: you might be able to do that using gnu screen as an intermediary
[10:27] <teekay_> out of interest
[10:28] <ladydoor> gekko`: by detatching and then re-attaching
[10:28] <ladydoor> gekko`: though if you want a fullscreen terminal, you might check out ratpoison window manager instead
[10:28] <klassicd> fyrestrtr: possible with nautilus?
[10:28] <ladydoor> gekko`: (better text resolution)
[10:28] <karl> what is the package i need to start compiling stuff?
[10:28] <ladydoor> karl: build-essential
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> you could try something like cat 'whatever' >> /dev/tty01
[10:28] <karl> thx
[10:28] <leks> hi there, im getting this;
[10:28] <leks> [17179611.856000]  mtrr: no more MTRRs available
[10:28] <leks> [17179611.856000]  mtrr: no more MTRRs available
[10:28] <leks> [17179611.856000]  mtrr: no more MTRRs available
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> klassicd: you can't use nautilus over ssh unless you use something like vnc
[10:28] <leks> any ideas?
[10:29] <theBishop> what's up with sound not working in Firefox?
[10:29] <jrib> theBishop: in flash?
[10:29] <theBishop> jrib, yep
[10:29] <finalbeta> theBishop, if you are talking flash, it uses OSS. you can use aoss
[10:29] <MrFeetio> Jack_Sparrow its a .iso from gentoo.org and im useing firefox, but it happens with any file i download to the desktop
[10:29] <jrib> !flash > theBishop
[10:29] <gekko`> ladydoor: ok, I'll check that, thanks
[10:29] <acidian> well, got wow running, but not with the best graphics XD
[10:29] <MrFeetio> Jack_Sparrow if i download it to a file it works fine
[10:29] <acidian> cant even chose anti aliasing
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> acidian: what video card?
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> MrFeetio: youmean dl to a folder?
[10:30] <acidian> radeon mobility x1600
[10:30] <dalfz_> how do i uninstall a .deb package i installed manually?
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> and you have the drivers installed for it? you have hardware acceleration?
[10:30] <rummik> why does it keep opening my mounted ftp stuff in firefox?
[10:30] <acidian> fyrestrtr: aye
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> MrFeetio: And you are running Ubuntu now?
[10:30] <MrFeetio> Jack_Sparrow it doesent show even if i show hiiden files, yes if i dl somewhere else its fine
[10:30] <MrFeetio> yes i am
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> dalfz_: apt-get remove foo
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> acidian: are you running xgl?
[10:31] <acidian> fyrestrtr: dont know :P
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> MrFeetio: very strange.. and full search shows nothing..
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> acidian: then you aren't :P -- are you running wow in opengl mode or in directx mode?
[10:31] <dalfz_> fyrestrtr, thanks
[10:31] <acidian> fyrestrtr: opengl
[10:31] <acidian> should be anyway
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> You looked with nautilus, you looked with ls in term after cd/Desktop etc?
[10:32] <visik7> will ubuntu adopt click n run ?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> acidian: you need to run it with --opengl or something to force opengl, also are you running it in windowed mode or fullscreen?
[10:32] <ladydoor> visik7: meaning?
[10:32] <acidian> fyrestrtr: I am doing that, fullscreen
[10:32] <visik7> ladydoor: uh ?
[10:32] <visik7> click n run by linspire
[10:32] <visik7> you know ?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> visik7: nope, it won't.
[10:32] <ladydoor> visik7: oh. no i don't. sorry
[10:32] <MrFeetio> Jack_Sparrow: i can paste thing to the desktop and it works fine
[10:32] <jbroome> ugh hope not
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> MrFeetio: You looked with nautilus, you looked with ls in term after cd/Desktop etc?
[10:33] <Qvazzler> whois Jack_Sparrow (real question)
[10:33] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:33] <roboa1983> hi, i've been trying to run ssh and i cannot access certain ip addresses. furthermore, those people cannot access me as well. i've tried changing /etc/hosts as these have done, but it doesn't seem to work
[10:33] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, I just had the problem again. The meters show no abnormal disk/cpu/swap activity (swap stayed at 5%). Altho the last two times I was watching Discovery channel on totem (My ISP streams it). I gues it's possible a few of the other times I was watching a movie. (but I'm fairy certain not every time)
[10:34] <woodgrain> is ubuntu 6.06 LTS the same as dapper??
[10:34] <Jack_Sparrow> I am who I am and that is all that I am I'm Popeye the sailor man.. beep beep
[10:34] <Qvazzler> yes?
[10:34] <ladydoor> woodgrain: yeah
[10:34] <ompaul> woodgrain, it is
[10:34] <Qvazzler> lol
[10:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry all
[10:34] <MrFeetio> well its not all that important i plan i switching to gentoo
[10:34] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, your allowed
[10:34] <woodgrain> ompaul, yeah, thanks, that was a dumb question.
[10:34] <woodgrain> ladydoor, thanks.
[10:34] <Jack_Sparrow> MrFeetio: But you didnt answer the question
[10:34] <ladydoor> woodgrain: np
[10:34] <ompaul> woodgrain, not knowing is not a crime :)
[10:35] <matthewf> does ubuntu use a diffrent package manager as standard then xubuntu ?
[10:35] <MrFeetio> yes i did try that
[10:35] <Jack_Sparrow> MrFeetio: Thank you
[10:35] <lonran> hello
[10:35] <lonran> a frontend for direct connect?
[10:36] <acidian> fyrestrtr: my biggest problem is that I get an error everytime I try to change a video setting ingame
[10:36] <ompaul> matthewf, there are many ways to update packages, synaptic is available for both, but I prefer command lines but that is just me
[10:36] <acidian> fyrestrtr: error says something about it trying to access memory at 00000000, which isnt a memory slot
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> I have a whole file of ompaul's command line tools :)
[10:37] <ladydoor> lonran: there's direct connect for linux
[10:37] <lonran> the client, yes, but a frontend?
[10:37] <matthewf> i take it as Gnome is the default DE for ubuntu, its more integrated and nice then KDE/Xfe are ?
[10:37] <ladydoor> lonran: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378
[10:38] <ladydoor> lonran: i'm talking about a graphikal version
[10:38] <Chousuke> acidian: the program has a bug.
[10:38] <ladydoor> lonran: it's not a frontend to the text-based program, it's an entirely different program
[10:38] <DogZern> !   C:\Documents and Settings\Tibia\Skrivbord\grub_for_dos-0.4.2pre8(4).zip: The archive is either in unknown format or damaged
[10:38] <DogZern> Grml
[10:38] <lonran> ladydoor:  ok, i see, very nice
[10:38] <ladydoor> lonran: :-)
[10:38] <acidian> Chousuke: yeah, I guesse, but I found a config file now that I think I can edit for the purposes I need
[10:38] <woodgrain> is it okay to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade to dapper or is this crazy?
[10:39] <roboa1983> any ideas on how to solve: port 22: No route to host?
[10:39] <Chousuke> acidian: it dereferences a null pointer. It's a programming error. :/
[10:39] <jrib> !upgrade > woodgrain
[10:39] <Chousuke> acidian: file a bug report
[10:39] <Jack_Sparrow> DogZern: do you have unzip installed?
[10:39] <acidian> Chousuke: wow doesnt support linux, so cant realy report it :/
[10:39] <DogZern> I've tried Winrar, 7-Zip
[10:39] <jimcooncat> roboa1983, can you ping the host?
[10:39] <Chousuke> acidian: oh. :/
[10:39] <MrFeetio> if i partition my HD for ubuntu from 250g to 100g( i have like 80g used) and install gentoo on the remaining 150g will i lose data?
[10:40] <Chousuke> acidian: wine might be causing it then
[10:40] <Jack_Sparrow> DogZern: have you moved that file into ubuntu to unzip it?
[10:40] <acidian> Chousuke: yeah, but I wouldnt know how to fix it XD
[10:40] <_lupine> MrFeetio: not if you do it properly
[10:40] <roboa1983> jimcooncat: no, the Destination Host is Unreachable
[10:40] <DogZern> Trying to install Ubunto through my harddrive at the moment. Following, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[10:41] <roboa1983> jimcooncat: although i can ping other hosts
[10:41] <Jack_Sparrow> DogZern: Sorry for the confusion, I just got in the door and I'm still waiting for the ac to kick in
[10:41] <MrFeetio> _lupine: how would i do it wrong?
[10:41] <DogZern> Hah :-)
[10:41] <_lupine> lots of ways
[10:41] <DogZern> No idea why it would get corrupt, tried different downloading spots etc.
[10:41] <jimcooncat> roboa1983, is the host on your local network?
[10:41] <woodgrain> jrib, thanks, i don't know how I didn't find that page!  Thanks a bunch talke later when I'm done.
[10:41] <MrFeetio> well im gonna install gentoo now cya
[10:42] <derossi> ehh
[10:42] <roboa1983> jimcooncat: it is.
[10:42] <derossi> hi are there in hungarian pepole?
[10:43] <ladydoor> !hungarian
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hungarian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <nibby> hi, when i play quake3 in ubuntu after 10 minute the screen do a kind of fade out so i have to do alt+enter then click somewhere on desktop then return in quake with alt+enter what i should do to stop that ?
[10:43] <harisund> Does anybody know of any cross platform note taking application? I am looking for something that I can use to take notes on both my Windows and Ubuntu platforms?
[10:43] <jimcooncat> roboa1983, can you try doing a ping FROM the host to your workstation?
[10:43] <woodgrain> !upgrade > me
[10:43] <tabman> using OOo in Ubuntu if I run the following macro: http://tabishfayyaz.googlepages.com/HelloWorldMacro.png , i get the following exception: http://tabishfayyaz.googlepages.com/MacroException.png. This does not happens whiile using OOo in Windows
[10:43] <Jack_Sparrow> DogZern: I dont see the file you are trying to unzip on that page anywhere
[10:43] <derossi> quake 4 is better..
[10:44] <roboa1983> jimcooncat: how would that be typed in the terminal?
[10:44] <woodgrain> !upgrade
[10:44] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> DogZern: IS there a reason you are not doing a normal install
[10:44] <woodgrain> !update
[10:44] <DogZern> Yes.
[10:44] <DogZern> Don't got a CD reader installed so :-)
[10:44] <e-type> evenin all
[10:44] <jimcooncat> roboa1983, you'd have to be on the hosts terminal, and ping yourmachinename
[10:44] <DogZern> Windows NT/2000/XP (using Grub)
[10:44] <DogZern>     *
[10:44] <DogZern>       Download Grub For Dos from [WWW]  http://sarovar.org/download.php/672/grub_for_dos-0.4.1pre22.tar.gz
[10:44] <jimcooncat> or ping your ip address
[10:44] <nibby> hi, when i play quake3 in ubuntu after 10 minute the screen do a kind of fade out so i have to do alt+enter then click somewhere on desktop then return in quake with alt+enter what i should do to stop that ?
[10:45] <Jack_Sparrow> DogZern: That is different from the file name you showed earlier.
[10:45] <micahcowan> nibby, disable the screensaver
[10:45] <tabman> this is a UBUNTU specific issues, you need to look at it
[10:45] <ompaul> !paste
[10:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:45] <e-type> nibby: sounds like yr screensave?
[10:45] <Charon1> Is there a way to install skype via the package manager or does it have to be installed manually ?
[10:45] <roboa1983> jimcooncat: I can't, the others aren't here and i don't have accounts for their computers
[10:46] <nibby> e-type: well, no animation just a fade out and my screensave are on random
[10:46] <derossi> when i play quake 3 i can't make a screenshot...why?
[10:46] <derossi> i try f12..
[10:46] <tabman> using OOo in Ubuntu if I run the following macro: http://tabishfayyaz.googlepages.com/HelloWorldMacro.png , i get the following exception: http://tabishfayyaz.googlepages.com/MacroException.png. This does not happens whiile using OOo in Windows
[10:47] <micahcowan> tabman, file a bug.
[10:47] <jimcooncat> roboa1983, ok, there's really not much more to do other than check physical network connections to make sure everything's plugged in. If there's a router in between your computer and the host, then that's probably the cause.
[10:47] <tabman> micahcowan: where ?
[10:47] <naa> there are computers that can boot from usb flash drives, right?
[10:47] <micahcowan> tabman, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu. You'll need to set up an account first.
[10:48] <roboa1983> jimcooncat: the thing is that the other computers can communicate with each other, while mine for some reason, is still not available, but thanks for the help
[10:48] <micahcowan> naa, sure. It depends what the bios is capable of.
[10:48] <whazilla> naa u can
[10:48] <naa> hmm
[10:48] <naa> what would happen if you removed it during that?
[10:48] <harisund> Does anybody know of a cross platform notetaking tool?
[10:49] <jimcooncat> roboa1983, you must be the new guy in the office ;-)
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> harisund: what do you mean by cross platform? it works in linux and windows?
[10:49] <micahcowan> harisund, Tomboy, perhaps?
[10:50] <jimcooncat> roboa1983, you might not be on the same subnet
[10:50] <harisund> fyrestrtr: yes. micahcowan I haven't heard of that. Will give it a look, thanks
[10:50] <e-type> Charon1: skype is non free. use a free voip application or add skype to your apt sources
[10:50] <jimcooncat> roboa1983, in other words, your ip address like 192.168.1.1 might not see theirs, like 192.168.0.*
[10:50] <micahcowan> harisund, I think it's gnome, but it's written in mono (C#), so may be crossplatform. I've never used it, know little about it.
[10:50] <Charon1> e-type: Thanks... I was wondering if it was in there allready
[10:50] <harisund> micahcowan I want to take notes, and be able to share it with my friends using Windows (collaborative editing basically)
[10:51] <e-type> Charon1: it will never be in there, skype is non free
[10:51] <_lupine> it might even never get into the non-free repository, then ;)
[10:51] <kingofhearts> I am new to ubuntu and I just start with the 6.06 live cd. will it do 1650x1080 res in widescreen?
[10:51] <Nutubuntu> harisund:  that argues for web-based, it seems to me -- how far apart are the people you want to share notes with?
[10:51] <micahcowan> harisund, all I know about it is that it is apparently going to be part of ubuntu-desktop in edgy, is sort of a wiki, and is used by many for note-taking.
[10:51] <Charon1> e-type: no non free sources list :)
[10:52] <eXistenZ> How can I add key authentication to ssh if I've already created key pairs
[10:52] <roboa1983> jimcootcat: although, i am the new guy in the office, the ip addresses were just newly assigned, and all have same subnet. those others are using fedora, though.
[10:52] <e-type> Charon1: won't start this ideoligic stuff :)
[10:52] <harisund> Nutubuntu: same class, in university. Perhaps web based indeed is what I am looking at.
[10:52] <Nutubuntu> micahcowan & harisund: Tomboy is a wiki-like, sticky-note-like thingie that seems good for one person but not, afaik, for a gropu
[10:52] <Nutubuntu> ^group
[10:52] <_lupine> micahcowan: not yet more junk to be pulled down?!
[10:52] <Charon1> e-type: no worries. Im just looking for the lazy way out.
[10:52] <harisund> micahcowan: ok :) Will have alook anyway.
[10:52] <e-type> eXistenZ: tell your sshd or ssh to use your key
[10:52] <eXistenZ> e-type, thanks
[10:53] <lamego> harisund, you could try writely
[10:53] <e-type> eXistenZ: /etc/ssh/sshd.conf and ~/.ssh/ssh.conf
[10:53] <harisund> lamego: web based yes.. I use writely
[10:53] <micahcowan> _lupine, don't look at me. There's been a massive thread about it at ubuntu-devel.
[10:53] <eXistenZ> Does anyone know whether it is possible to transfer files using putty
[10:53] <dalfz_> what's the command to install a custom .deb package?
[10:54] <_lupine> not been paying attention :)
[10:54] <harisund> dalfz_: dpkg --install debname.deb
[10:54] <micahcowan> dalfz_, sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[10:54] <lamego> eXistenZ, no
[10:54] <dalfz_> thanks
[10:54] <e-type> eXistenZ: sure, there's pscp and psftp
[10:55] <e-type> eXistenZ: but they're strictly different apps
[10:55] <wimpies> hi all, can anybody help setting up a ZEN sleek on LInux ?
[10:55] <eobanb_> stupid gentoo.
[10:55] <Nutubuntu> Be well, all
[10:55] <micahcowan> harisund, if tomboy doesn't match what you're looking for, I agree with Nutubuntu: you probably want web-based, maybe some sort of wiki.
[10:56] <Nutubuntu> micahcowan ... I think he or she left
[10:56] <m4rk> anyway to do a search in a folder using ubuntu? to find a particular piece of text in a whole lot of text documents??
[10:56] <micahcowan> doh!
[10:56] <_lupine> :p
[10:56] <djm62> or monkeyGTD or tiddlywiki
[10:56] <_lupine> what's wrong with gentoo?
[10:56] <Nutubuntu> micahcowan - I'm wondering, though, about web-based collaborative tools myself
[10:56] <_lupine> m4rk: find <folder> -name <file>
[10:56] <lamego> there are non web based alternatives, also multiplatform
[10:56] <lamego> like Gobby
[10:57] <m4rk> _lupine: where do I put the text I want to find in that command?
[10:57] <Nutubuntu> lamego:  I'll look that up, also writely
[10:57] <djm62> lamego: tiddlywiki and variants are damn good
[10:57] <jrib> m4rk: use grep if you want to search inside
[10:57] <SpComb> we need globals on freenode as well for new ubuntu or debian releases :(
[10:57] <lamego> well, not all wikis are real real time
[10:57] <jrib> m4rk: grep -R text /path/to/directory
[10:57] <Nutubuntu> djm62:  tiddlywiki gets slow as it gets big, at least on my (old) computer ... do you have that experience too?
[10:57] <roboa1983> jimcootcat: thx!! bye
[10:57] <cemal_> m4rk, grep -i -r '<search_text> <folder_name>
[10:57] <_lupine> Mediawiki is good
[10:58] <ne78> How can i import all my contacts from my bluetooth GSM ?
[10:58] <lamego> i mean, most are not, they dont allow to edit the same page at the same time by differente users
[10:58] <m4rk> OK thanks dudes
[10:58] <_lupine> easy to set up as well - and actually manages to look good :D
[10:58] <lamego> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_real-time_editor
[10:58] <djm62> Nutubuntu: not as yet... I'm trying to hack the calendar into something more usable.  I seriously like the idea of re-editing Javascript on a webpage though
[10:59] <qatsi> anyone here got his unreal tournament 2004 working ?
[10:59] <eobanb_> er, i hate when i accidentally exit x-chat.
[10:59] <ompaul> eobanb, so do it on purpose :)
[10:59] <lamego> lol
[11:00] <Nutubuntu> There seem to be a lot of tiddlywiki variants, djm62 -- I was looking at a couple that are geared to "GTD" one way or another -- but they got big, quickly, and when they did, I thought they got pretty slow. Maybe worse in memory than it actually was at the time ...
[11:00] <_lupine> qatsi: http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Unreal_Tournament_2004
[11:00] <notworkin> i need to know how to format my hard drive with ubuntu installed
[11:00] <_lupine> (I don't actually have the game)
[11:00] <_lupine> notworkin: mkfs does the trick
[11:00] <GomezDen> How do I change the splash screen? (the one that shows up once you log in)
[11:00] <lamego> does anyonw knows a challenge-response extension for thunderbird ?
[11:00] <notworkin> i dont know what that is
[11:01] <Nutubuntu> lamego:  Interesting wikipedia page, t/y
[11:01] <djm62> Nutubuntu: I'm using monkeyGTD atm.  I'm  thinking a cull/dump of older tasks might be worth writing
[11:01] <Jack_Sparrow> notworkin: a partition that ubuntu is on or another
[11:01] <_lupine> man mkfs will tell you what it is
[11:01] <qatsi> _lupine: thank you :) but its supposed to run without cedega...as far as i know :p i mean, i already installed it, but i cant get it to run (strange)...
[11:01] <notworkin> i need someone to explain it.. i had a boot disk but it wont boot and i think its cause ubuntu is on it
[11:01] <Nutubuntu> djm62:  just downloaded monkeyGTD last night :) -- also d3, which I kind of like
[11:01] <qatsi> _lupine: sorry, first i should've read the page you gave me :p hehe
[11:02] <notworkin> im sorry... i kinda need a walk through of a sort... i was able to when windows was on... with fdisk. but i am confused now...
[11:02] <Nutubuntu> Sorry to be all off-topic, I'm going to be quiet now until I can get back "on" topic :)
[11:02] <flodine> anyone know if ubuntu will support 4 mb of cache'
[11:02] <djm62> Nutubuntu: if you know any javascript, -offtopic?
[11:02] <_lupine> notworking: fdisk won't format. If you're after repartitioning (what fdisk does), then linux also has an fdisk
[11:02] <GomezDen> Anyone know how to change the Gnome Splash Screen?
[11:02] <notworkin> where can i get that fdisk and can i boot it from a cd
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> notworkin: I dont understand your question or what you are trying to do
[11:03] <_lupine> you just run "fdisk"
[11:03] <_lupine> however, you're much better off reading the manpages and understanding them, rather than blindly following commands from me
[11:03] <notworkin> in the terminal
[11:03] <e-type> GomezDen: edit it in gconf-editor
[11:03] <_lupine> yes
[11:03] <_lupine> you'll need to sudo it
[11:03] <GomezDen> e-type: thanks
[11:03] <notworkin> i typed that and a list came up
[11:03] <notworkin> but nothing really happened
[11:03] <notworkin> oh
[11:03] <notworkin> ok
[11:03] <GomezDen> e-type: Gnome site was saying gconftools-2
[11:03] <chris449> hi, i just installed vlc but i can't find it? i'm using kde, so the path on the website doesn't exist
[11:03] <notworkin> lets see
[11:03] <_lupine> and specify the device you want to fdisk (/dev/hda ?)
[11:03] <_lupine> just... read the manpages first
[11:04] <_lupine> and be careful :)
[11:04] <usr> hello clever people. how come I not be able to use a blank password for my useraccount?
[11:04] <sethk> notworkin, try   fdisk -l /dev/hda    the -l prints something, and is safe
[11:04] <notworkin> um ok... but i want it all gone anyway
[11:04] <notworkin> lol
[11:04] <jacques> Dr_Willis: me again. I keep getting the same error when i change the xorg.conf file. can i send you the error log and maybe you can help me out
[11:04] <notworkin> ok
[11:04] <sethk> notworkin, gone is easy.  getting it back when it's gone may not be  :)
[11:04] <chris449> the path for gnome is applications>sound and media>vlc but in kde that doesn't exist? so how do i run vlc?
[11:05] <notworkin> well i have nothing really on my computer
[11:06] <notworkin> i just installed ubuntu to experiment
[11:06] <notworkin> i have a cd if i want it back
[11:06] <sethk> chris449, you can always run it from alt-f2
[11:06] <notworkin> but right now i want windows 2k on it
[11:06] <notworkin> and it wont work
[11:06] <sethk> chris449, or from a terminal
[11:06] <eXistenZ> e-type, I copied my public key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys . Is that what I only should do?
[11:07] <e-type> eXistenZ: public key goes into any account where you should have access to
[11:07] <thybo> anyone has an idea of when the skype repository will work?
[11:07] <notworkin> uh... i dont know what i did
[11:07] <jacques> Dr_Willis: me again. I keep getting the same error when i change the xorg.conf file. can i send you the error log and maybe you can help me out
[11:07] <e-type> eXistenZ: private key must be kept in a lucriously safe place to proove you're you
[11:07] <notworkin> i typed fdisk /dev/hda
[11:07] <notworkin> and then 'deleted a partition'
[11:07] <eXistenZ> e-type, yeah I copied the public key there.
[11:07] <eXistenZ> e-type, in the target machine
[11:07] <ompaul> thybo, it has been found by some that the beta for debian on the site is rather good
[11:07] <notworkin> but ubuntu was still running whehn i did that
[11:07] <notworkin> and it says its deleted
[11:07] <MetaMorfoziS> why the firefox from repo is bad ?
[11:07] <thybo> yes i am loooking for the beta
[11:07] <notworkin> so i'm confused lol
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> jacques,  post it on pastebin.com so others can see it as well
[11:08] <notworkin> nope... its not gone
[11:08] <thybo> but can't get it through apt:
[11:08] <thybo> Get:5 http://download.skype.com stable/non-free Packages [693B] 
[11:08] <thybo> 99% [5 Packages gzip 0]  [Waiting for headers]  [Connecting to blognux.free.fr (21gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[11:08] <notworkin> could someone pm me and walk me through this/
[11:08] <jacques> Dr_Willis: ok would you like me  to send it to you or just post it
[11:08] <ne78> Is there an application that syncrhonize contact with a bluetooth GSM, like ical on macosx ?
[11:09] <chris449> sethk: but i dont' know which file to run from the terminal, i checked all the folders it installed and none had any files i could run
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> jacques,  just pastebin is best
[11:09] <chris449> sethk: doh, shoulda checked teh /usr/bin
[11:09] <chris449> thanks for help
[11:09] <jacques> Dr_Willis: ok thanx
[11:09] <sethk> chris449, yes, that's a reasonable place to check  :)
[11:10] <e-type> ne78: the bluetooth part should be no problem, but you'd need some synchronizing app for your gsm
[11:10] <ne78> e-type: bluetooth works, but i need to backup all my GSM contacts
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> notworkin: So you want us to walk you through a Windows 2000 install ?
[11:11] <ne78> e-type: i can send contact one by one but that's not an option, is there an application to do that ?
[11:11] <notworkin> no no
[11:11] <notworkin> i want someone to walk me through a hard disk format
[11:11] <e-type> ne78: I don't have a clue... google might know
[11:11] <notworkin> cause its just not working
[11:11] <notworkin> i dont know how to use linux very well
[11:12] <e-type> notworkin: you sure you want to format it?
[11:12] <Jack_Sparrow> notworkin: and the purpose of the format is what?
[11:12] <notworkin> yes
[11:12] <notworkin> im 100 percent sure
[11:12] <Jack_Sparrow> notworkin: to instal what OS?
[11:12] <notworkin> i only have a 6g hard drive
[11:12] <Zajjko> How do I go about removing a driver installed from source-files?
[11:12] <e-type> notworkin: I'm not sure I wont get banned for telling you this :)
[11:12] <notworkin> i am going to install windows 2k
[11:12] <ichiban3> tell me
[11:12] <GomezDen> e-type: I got the splash screen changed but that horrable brown color is still there.
[11:12] <e-type> notworkin: win2k has it's own format app
[11:13] <notworkin> banned `question mark` my shit key  wont work for some reason
[11:13] <djm62> ne78: mobical.net might do the backup you want: I haven't found anything for motorola phones, other types might be better served
[11:13] <mowgli> hello, all. second-day Linux(ubuntu) user here. i've been trying to connect to my usb adsl modem since yesterday. first, i tried to install needed driver by myself from different sources (original Eagle-usb material, original Linux driver from Sagem, etc.). Now that I know how to download and install .deb files from packages.ubuntu.com, module-assistant is telling me that I need to "make...
[11:13] <notworkin> i mean i know what banned is
[11:13] <mowgli> ...uninstall" a previous eagle-usb driver before proceeding. HOW DO I DO THAT? thx!
[11:13] <e-type> GomezDen: hm... would that be the same background as in gdm?
[11:13] <Jack_Sparrow> notworkin: Put in a windows 2000 disk and let it run, it will format the drive partition it and install 2k for you
[11:13] <notworkin> but why would you get banned
[11:13] <notworkin> it wont work
[11:13] <sethk> notworkin, I don't think he was serious
[11:13] <notworkin> it wont boot from the cd
[11:13] <notworkin> ah
[11:13] <notworkin> i went to the bios but it wont boot the cd
[11:13] <Jack_Sparrow> notworkin: Suggest you ask that in #Windows
[11:13] <djm62> mowgli: find the source directory for the previous driver, and type make uninstall
[11:13] <notworkin> it goes straight to loading the kernel and shturr
[11:13] <GomezDen> e-type: What do you mean?
[11:14] <notworkin> shtuff
[11:14] <sethk> notworkin, during the install, you don't do anything called "format"
[11:14] <e-type> GomezDen: I'm not sure... better not say anything then ;)
[11:14] <sethk> notworkin, format is incorrect
[11:14] <sethk> notworkin, you create a file system.
[11:14] <notworkin> ok... but i dont want linux on there. at all. i want to only have windows 2k
[11:14] <sethk> notworkin, there is such a think as a low level format on an IDE drive, but you should never need to do it.
[11:14] <djm62> mowgli: is that clear enough for you to be getting on?
[11:14] <sethk> notworkin, in that case, just boot a windows install cd
[11:15] <mowgli> djm62: but i don't really know how to find the previous driver... hint?
[11:15] <e-type> notworkin: like making jokes about 'rm and some flags' will result in bans in some channels :)
[11:15] <sethk> notworkin, windows is good at erasing everything other than itself  :)
[11:15] <notworkin> but how do i boot it
[11:15] <notworkin> it just wont do it
[11:15] <GomezDen> e-type: It changed the middle part but the area around it is brown.
[11:15] <notworkin> ah
[11:15] <frying_fish_> mowgli: where did you build the previous driver
[11:15] <sethk> notworkin, won't boot the cd?
[11:15] <notworkin> well then i need to know how to boot it
[11:15] <djm62> mowgli: how did you install the previous driver?
[11:15] <frying_fish_> as you will need to change to that dir, then type sudo make uninstall
[11:15] <e-type> notworkin: if you really want to you need mkfs stuff, it's manpage should help
[11:15] <sethk> notworkin, try going into your bios setup, and looking for boot options
[11:15] <sethk> notworkin, and make the CD the first boot device
[11:15] <notworkin> i already did the bios
[11:15] <thybo> how do you clear apt cache?
[11:15] <notworkin> its set to boot rom the cd
[11:15] <notworkin> but it wotn
[11:15] <sethk> notworkin, didn't boot?
[11:15] <blub> redele
[11:15] <ompaul> thybo, you don't want to
[11:15] <thybo> why?
[11:15] <frying_fish> thybo: sudo apt-cache clean
[11:16] <sethk> notworkin, either the cd is bad, or the drive has a problem, or the drive cable has a problem, or the drive is jumpered incorrectly
[11:16] <frying_fish> I think.
[11:16] <ben> i need help with getting the wpa_supplicant running so wpa_gui can connect to it and configure it
[11:16] <frying_fish> notworkin: can you manually select boot device from options
[11:16] <thybo> why ompaul?
[11:16] <ompaul> thybo, it is useful if you want to rebuilt the patched machine later - rather than downloading the files again
[11:16] <jrib> GomezDen: system > administration > login window, you can change the color there
[11:16] <frying_fish> I know on my system its F8 to bring that up, but some its F12
[11:16] <notworkin> no i dont think so
[11:16] <mowgli> djm62: just followed instructions, but now I've done about a dozen different procedures to try it, and i cannot be sure of which one actually installed it...
[11:16] <blub> can someone tell me how I can get divx and win32codecs into ubuntu? Do I have to add another repository? If So wich shold I use
[11:16] <thybo> i'd rather have the files off:)
[11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> notworkin: Helping you install Windows 2000 as your only OS is offtopic here
[11:16] <mowgli> djm62: can i do a file search of some kind?
[11:17] <GomezDen> jrib: thanks you
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> !codecs > blub
[11:17] <notworkin> ok then
[11:17] <notworkin> thakns anyway
[11:17] <notworkin> bye
[11:17] <ben> anyone know how to get wpa_supplicant running?
[11:17] <thybo> E: Invalid operation clean
[11:17] <jrib> GomezDen: there is also gnome-splashscreen-manager in the repositories for your previous question.  It's easier than editing gconf
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> ben: have you read the wifi wiki already?
[11:18] <ben> yes
[11:18] <ben> the problem is
[11:18] <ben> i don't have a config file named /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[11:18] <e-type> mowgli: install beagle or try '$ man find'
[11:18] <ben> nor do i have a /etc/default/wpa_supplicant
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> ben: I think you are meant to create that manually.
[11:19] <nolX40> hi - has anyone got cvs NetworkManager & LEAP working? I've followed the forums on it, but (afaict) it doesn't give me an option for LEAP.
[11:19] <e-type> fyrestrtr: doesn't wpa_supplicant allow it's config to be created at runtime by "some other app"?
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> e-type: I think initially, you have to set it up. I forgot exactly, been a while.
[11:20] <ben> e-type: what's this other app?
[11:20] <trish_> anyone got a wg111 adapter
[11:20] <thybo> funny.... i uninstalled skype while it was running... will it cause any problem?
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> thybo: only when you try to run it again :)
[11:20] <thybo> :d thx fure
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> thybo: running programs are stored in ram.
[11:20] <thybo> fyre
[11:20] <thybo> ok :)
[11:21] <ompaul> thybo, do this>> wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-deb && dpkg -i skype-beta-1.3.0.37-i1_i386.deb << then just start it from the menu: Applicaitons --> Internet
[11:21] <thybo> u have an unwritable nickname but you are a trumendous sourve of informaations
[11:21] <fyrestrtr> thybo: type fyre and hit tab :)
[11:21] <thybo> fyrestrtr: :d
[11:21] <thybo> hehe yeah
[11:21] <e-type> fyrestrtr: we've been experimenting a bit to get a dialog config tool with udev+bash to control it on runtime...
[11:22] <thybo> thanks ompaul but i'm downloading it :)
[11:22] <e-type> fyrestrtr: but I don't know the ubuntu way
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> e-type: your way sounds quite ubuntu-ish.
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> e-type: but I think their new runlevel control thing (forgot its name) will make lives easy.
[11:22] <e-type> fyrestrtr: hehe, it was really to do some voodoo on mac changing + dynamic interface naming...
[11:23] <trish_> when i use network manager to access wpa network it tells me my hardware doesn't support the security feature. anyone know a fix?
[11:23] <caverdude> bah, I can't install ubuntu as both server and workstation with gui?
[11:23] <lamego> yes you can
[11:23] <e-type> caverdude: sure you can
[11:23] <caverdude> I see 2 cd's for download
[11:23] <e-type> caverdude: what is a server?
[11:23] <caverdude> one for workstation and one for server
[11:23] <e-type> a pc with some services
[11:23] <fyrestrtr> caverdude: here's a secret -- you can get a workstation, with server programs!
[11:23] <caverdude> e-type yes I know but I'm looking at the install cd's selections
[11:23] <trish_> use synaptic or apt and download the server services you need
[11:24] <lamego> caverdude, you can install server or desktop packages on any of the systems
[11:24] <TBNolan> easiest way to install TCL on ubuntu?
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> caverdude: the server cd just has less stuff. You can start from any, and go either way. For example, I have a laptop, that runs two database servers, dns, ssh, apache, and tomcat :)
[11:24] <blub> mmmh, are there more repositories for ubuntu than the ones which are default? And where can I find them?
[11:24] <lamego> those CDs just contain different set of packages to be installed
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> blub: what are you looking for?
[11:24] <TBNolan> "apt-get install tcltls" worked, but my ./config for my eggdrop still couldn't find TCL
[11:24] <caverdude> ok so I need to burn off both install cd's and install them both?
[11:24] <lamego> blub, have you read the official guide, about the extra repos ?
[11:25] <lamego> caverdude, no, if you have a internet connection you only need the desktop cd
[11:25] <blub> fyrestrtr: just as much as software as I am used to find in gentoos portage ( a friend wants to switch from suse to kubuntu)
[11:25] <e-type> caverdude: strictly speaking you only need a base package
[11:25] <trish_> haven't tried it but perhaps you could burn both and use the server cd as an extra repository to install extras not on the desktop cd
[11:25] <blub> lamego: I enabled the universe rep
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> caverdude: nooo -- just pick one you like. Once you get the base system installed (either one) you can install any packages you want. So if you have already downloaded the server cd, install from there, then just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop -- to get the gui. If you have downloaded the desktop cd, just install the various services you need (see !lamp)
[11:25] <trish_> but easier to use network repositories
[11:25] <sethk> blub, yes, but you don't get to wait hours for a few minutes worth of software
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> !software > blub
[11:25] <Azathoth_> hiii
[11:26] <sethk> blub, if he wants to take two days to do two hours work, he needs gentoo  :)
[11:26] <Leonrott> how can i probe the ftp?
[11:26] <blub> sethk: cant follow you?
[11:26] <TBNolan> !tcl > TBNolan
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <lamego> LeeJunFan, ftp localhost
[11:26] <Azathoth_> anyone can help me with errors making modprobe lirc_gpio
[11:26] <Leonrott> lamego, thanks
[11:26] <trish_> anyone know wpa
[11:26] <blub> sethk: me uses gentoo and I am more than happy, now I am helping him to configure his kubuntu install
[11:26] <sethk> blub, not being exactly serious.  You get better performance from ubuntu than from gentoo, and you get it a with a lot less work
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> blub: there is lots of software available in repos, what does he want?
[11:27] <lotusleaf> sethk: hi :)
[11:27] <sethk> lotusleaf, hi
[11:27] <diezare> guys, what is the name of the linux kernel which supports smp protocol? it's name in the apt-get
[11:27] <blub> sethk: I love gentoo, so no way for logical argument :-)
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> sethk: lets not start bashing a distro over another in here please. Take that stuff to ubuntu-offtopic.
[11:27] <lamego> dieman, apt-cache search kernel smp
[11:27] <sethk> fyrestrtr, I didn't bring it up
[11:27] <jamie> looking for a consultant to setup jails for fastcgi scripts (php4-cgi, python, perl, etc)
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> diezare: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[11:27] <blub> fyrestrtr: for example searching for opera nogo, win32codecs nogo, divx nogo
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> !opera > blub
[11:28] <sethk> blub, all available
[11:28] <lamego> does linux-686 installs the smp kernel ?
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> !codecs > blub
[11:28] <blub> fyrestrtr: do I have to download all of them manull?
[11:28] <Leonrott> lamego, ftp: connect: Connection refused
[11:28] <e-type> lamego: search for the kernel module
[11:28] <diezare> fyrestrtr, thnx dude
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> blub: no, you (or your friend) needs to go read the wiki entries that ubotu just sent you in a query.
[11:28] <sethk> blub, use synaptic.  it's a nice friendly gui app with a search function
[11:28] <Azathoth_> anuone can help me withg install of lirc and errors on lirc_gpio?
[11:28] <jamie> sorry if this is a repeate: looking for a consultant to setup jails for fastcgi/scgi scripts (php4-cgi, python, perl, etc) message me privately if interested
[11:28] <e-type> lamego: if you find it, bingo, if you don't, compile one
[11:28] <sethk> blub, or you can install from the command line with just the package name
[11:28] <lamego> e-type, I know to search for the module, my question was because of the answers to the other person
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> !opera
[11:28] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[11:28] <sethk> blub, you never need to download anything manually
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> !codecs
[11:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:29] <blub> sethk: just using adept manager from kde
[11:29] <lamego> there is a -686 kernel and a -686-smp kernel
[11:29] <Leonrott> hi i get ftp: connect: Connection refused
[11:29] <sethk> blub, why?  synaptic is a lot easier to use.  I use it in kde
[11:29] <lamego> Leonrott, that means you dont have an ftp service
[11:29] <_lupine> no ftp server running
[11:29] <blub> okay, gonna give him the URLs
[11:29] <Azathoth_> anuone can help me withg install of lirc and errors on lirc_gpio?
[11:29] <blub> sethk: because I have no clue of kubuntu and int was preinstalled :-)
[11:30] <sethk> blub, ok.  no problem
[11:30] <Leonrott> but proftpd says accepting conecctions
[11:30] <e-type> d I'm pretty convinced that if it's not in the default kernel you wont find it in the apt sourceslamego: if you know how to search for a kernel module, than no doubt you know how to search for a kernel image an
[11:30] <_lupine> firewall?
[11:30] <ara> where can i find the hoary repos ? ( i know it's old yes )
[11:30] <lamego> Leonrott, ps -ef | grep -i proftp
[11:30] <ara> universe etc..
[11:30] <e-type> lamego: weuw, I should get my screen fixed here...
[11:30] <_lupine> s/dapper/hoary :)
[11:30] <erUSUL> !easysource
[11:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:30] <_lupine> they should all be on archive.ubuntu.com
[11:31] <e-type> lamego: last sentence is obviously unreadable, sorry ;)
[11:31] <blub> sethk: and my frind just switched a few month ago from XP tu SuSE, but suse sucked, and didn't help him with suse
[11:31] <TBNolan> could anyone help me install TCL?
[11:31] <ara> thanks
[11:31] <Leonrott> nobody   25823     1  0 17:28 ?        00:00:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)
[11:31] <sethk> blub, I'm not fond of suse
[11:31] <data__> is ubuntu pretty newbie friendly?
[11:31] <sethk> blub, but package management in ubuntu is really very easy
[11:31] <erUSUL> TBNolan: sudo apt-get install tcl ??
[11:31] <blub> so thats why I am asking a lot of dump questions
[11:31] <lamego> data__, yes
[11:31] <eXistenZ> How can there be different signatures that match the same public key? and is it possible to tell by comparing both a public key and signature that the signature matches the key?
[11:31] <e-type> data__: most newbie friendly distro
[11:31] <sethk> TBNolan, what problem are you having?
[11:31] <data__> e-type: ah! just what my friend needs then!
[11:31] <Leonrott> lamego, nobody   25823     1  0 17:28 ?        00:00:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)
[11:31] <data__> i hear nothing but good things about this distro
[11:32] <e-type> eXistenZ: there's not
[11:32] <Azathoth_> data_: me for example.. I am newbie and i use ubuntu
[11:32] <TBNolan> i'm trying to run an eggdrop bot
[11:32] <TBNolan> and upon ./configure
[11:32] <e-type> eXistenZ: read up about asymmetric encryption
[11:32] <eXistenZ> e-type, ok, I'll wiki
[11:32] <data__> e-type: quick question, does ubuntu have any problems with ATI video cards?
[11:32] <e-type> eXistenZ: it'll tell you all ;)
[11:32] <sethk> eXistenZ, you can hash anything with a public key.  depending on what you has, the has result is different, but the point is you can prove that it was hashed with the public key
[11:32] <TBNolan> i get an error, saying it can't find the tcl.h and other tcl files (sorry for splitting up my lines, i have a bad habbit)
[11:32] <e-type> data__: no
[11:32] <e-type> !ati > data
[11:32] <data__> alright. thanks again :)
[11:32] <blub> sethk: looks like it is, but I was wondering why I couldn't find opera and win32codes with the default manager
[11:32] <sethk> data__, there are some general ati linux problems, they do not vary by distro
[11:33] <e-type> !ati > dat__
[11:33] <erUSUL> TBNolan: sudo apt-get install tcl-dev
[11:33] <jrib> TBNolan: eggdrop is in the repositories
[11:33] <data__> !ati
[11:33] <e-type> !ati > data__
[11:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:33] <sethk> blub, I'm not sure about opera; I think you have to add a repository to the list of repositories to get opera
[11:33] <e-type> lol, trying a lot
[11:33] <lamego> Leonrott, you should get something like: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/628
[11:33] <TBNolan> jrib, no kiding?
[11:33] <tuxtux> notte @all
[11:33] <jrib> !info eggdrop
[11:33] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (dapper), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[11:33] <lamego> Leonrott, have you selected the standalone mode ?
[11:33] <e-type> naptime for me
[11:33] <e-type> laterz all
[11:33] <blub> sethk: is there a list with extra repositories? I am googeling around, but no success so far
[11:34] <jrib> TBNolan: I kid you not, should be available to you if you have enabled universe
[11:34] <TBNolan> i just did a sude apt-get install eggdrop and it worked
[11:34] <TBNolan> just don't know what to do afterwards
[11:34] <TBNolan> heh
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> blub: what are youlooking for? Have you enabled multiverse and universe
[11:34] <sethk> blub, I thought someone gave you the repository for opera.  I think you can do:
[11:34] <sethk> !opera
[11:34] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[11:34] <blub> Jack_Sparrow: universe I have but multiverse... moment
[11:34] <lamego> TBNolan, you will need to read a tutorial or manual about eggdrop
[11:34] <sethk> blub, follow that url
[11:34] <TBNolan> i know eggdrop
[11:34] <TBNolan> erm, windrop, i guess
[11:34] <TBNolan> never done it on linux
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> blub what are you trying to install?
[11:35] <blub> okay, thanks
[11:35] <lamego> so read a manual :)
[11:35] <sethk> TBNolan, you probably need a dev package
[11:35] <blub> TheGateKeeper: a whole bunch of shit :-) Just looking for repositories to cover as much as possible
[11:35] <TBNolan> lamego, i've got a problem first: "unable to fetch some archives"
[11:35] <sethk> TBNolan, that was about your tcl question, which may be obsolete
[11:36] <TBNolan> thankyou sethk
[11:36] <lamego> TBNolan, do you have all of the ubuntu repos configured ?
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> blub: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[11:36] <TBNolan> i thought i did
[11:36] <sethk> TBNolan, try it again, I see that occasionally when a repository is heavily loaded and slow
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> blub: Going outside normal repos is a good way to break your system
[11:36] <Abst> Can anyone recommend an IRC client?
[11:36] <Abst> Just a generic one
[11:36] <Leonrott> lamego, yes
[11:36] <jrib> Abst: do you want gui or command line?
[11:36] <Abst> GUI
[11:36] <lotusleaf> Abst: a lot of people like xchat
[11:36] <AsadR> is it possible to make the applications that require Administrative access save the root password for a certain duration, so that I don't have to enter it again and again?
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> !seveas > blub
[11:37] <jrib> Abst: yeah go with xchat, _not_ xchat-gnome
[11:37] <Abst> !irc
[11:37] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[11:37] <Abst> Okay
[11:37] <lamego> AsadR, sudo already does that
[11:37] <jazzrocker> aba_, XChat
[11:37] <jazzrocker> Abst, XChat
[11:37] <nibby> someone know how to install XGL ?? i does the synaptic install of XGL but i cant figure how to start it!
[11:37] <Abst> Okay XChat seems to be the one
[11:37] <Abst> Thanks
[11:37] <blub> Jack_Sparrow: me know.. but no trouble no fun ;-)
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> AsadR: I think it does for 10 minutes
[11:37] <data__> sethk: so, is it hard to get ati cards to work with linux, or even worth the hassle?
[11:37] <lamego> !xgl > nibby
[11:37] <jrib> !xgl
[11:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:37] <nibby> jrib: thanks again
[11:37] <AsadR> so if i look up the sudo docs, and configure it to remember the authentication the administrative apps won't keep asking me for the passwd agian n again?
[11:37] <jrib> oops
[11:38] <seatouch-> !mpeg
[11:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:38] <sethk> data__, no, not terribly hard, really.  most are automatically configured when you install, or by the config program is you change your card
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> data__: You can get them to work..
[11:38] <lamego> AsadR, sudo has a default timeout, but yes you can nusdo sudoers to allow certain commands to be used without prompting for the password
[11:38] <sethk> data__, there are a few that are problematic, but mostly they are ok
[11:38] <lamego> but the default timeout is safer
[11:38] <Leonrott> lamego, look that unable to redirect logging to '/var/log/syslog.log'
[11:38] <data__> cool.. my friend is trying to give ubuntu a shot because everyone says ubuntu is a great distro for a newbie to start working with
[11:38] <seatouch> !mpeg
[11:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:39] <sethk> AsadR, you can configure which apps require passwords and which don't
[11:39] <lamego> Leonrott, that looks bad
[11:39] <nagyv_> I have just installed breezy (I could not install dapper, but I would like to upgrade). when installed I had no net, how can I configure it now?
[11:39] <sethk> AsadR, but by doing that you are going even further down the false "sudo is safer" path
[11:39] <lamego> Leonrott, have you installed proftp from the standard ubuntu repos ?
[11:39] <AsadR> sethk: is it possible for me to let it cache the credentials until i logout, or manually purge it?
[11:39] <Leonrott> lamego, i think yes
[11:39] <lamego> nagyv_, first you should understand why you were not able to run dapper
[11:40] <lamego> because you may get into the same problem after the upgrade
[11:40] <Leonrott> lamego, its kubuntu but none ftp works fine for me
[11:40] <AsadR> like it does in Fedora. (*grin*)
[11:40] <lamego> Leonrott, you used sudo apt-get install protftpd ?
[11:40] <wweasel> What do I put in fstab to mount an ext2 partition as r/w? Right now it is "/dev/hda6       /media/data     ext2    defaults        0       2"
[11:40] <sethk> AsadR, there is no difference between ubuntu and fedora.  both have su, both have sudo
[11:40] <TBNolan> eek, i think us.archive.ubuntu.com is down:-(
[11:40] <Leonrott> lamego, yes
[11:40] <lamego> Leonrott, you must have a system configuration problem
[11:40] <nagyv_> lamego: because the install CD didn't started (I am trying it on a Thinkpad 600)
[11:40] <sethk> AsadR, you can set the root password and use su just like any *nix
[11:40] <lamego> nagyv_, have you tried the alternate cd ?
[11:41] <Leonrott> lamego, humm
[11:41] <AsadR> sethk: Fedora gives a cute icon in my systray that tells me the authentication credentials have been saved
[11:41] <sethk> AsadR, I'm not too excited about cute icons, but I'm sure you can do the same thing in ubuntu.  it's the same software
[11:41] <AsadR> which more or less stays for a long time, but that just might be my imagination. point is, what's the command for purging sudo's credentials, and where can i change the timeout?
[11:41] <lamego> Leonrott, ls -lad /var/log/syslog
[11:41] <sethk> AsadR, visudo is how you configure sudo
[11:42] <TBNolan> rmdir will remove an empty dir
[11:42] <lamego> AsadR, man sudo
[11:42] <TBNolan> what will remove a full one?
[11:42] <Leonrott> -rw-r----- 1 root adm 40670 2006-08-30 17:41 /var/log/syslog
[11:42] <Leonrott> lamego, -rw-r----- 1 root adm 40670 2006-08-30 17:41 /var/log/syslog
[11:42] <lamego> ok, syslogs seems fine
[11:42] <lamego> do a tail on it to check for some system errors
[11:42] <AsadR> kthx
[11:42] <wweasel> Surely someone here knows what to put in fstab to get r/w
[11:42] <lamego> wweasel, what partition type ?
[11:42] <sethk> wweasel, that's the default, but that's also probably not what you mean
[11:43] <Leonrott> lamego, Fatal: SystemLog: unable to redirect logging to '/var/log/syslog.log': Permission denied on line 32 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'
[11:43] <sri> hi folks, does anybody know if dapper's kernel is compiled with evms support?
[11:43] <wweasel> lamego, sethk: I asked about 30 secs ago and knew someone here would know. I'll repost
[11:43] <wweasel> What do I put in fstab to mount an ext2 partition as r/w? Right now it is "/dev/hda6       /media/data     ext2    defaults        0       2"
[11:44] <sethk> wweasel, that will mount it rw.   don't confuse mounting read only vs. read-write with different users having read and/or write privileges to the directories and files
[11:44] <lamego> Leonrott, could you check the contents of '/etc/proftpd.conf' line 32 ?
[11:44] <nagyv_> lamego: yes I did. the problem was with the new isolinux format or with my cd (finally I was used an original breezy)
[11:44] <lamego> I dont have anything usefull on that line
[11:44] <wweasel> sethk: Right! Sorry, need to put uid=
[11:44] <sethk> wweasel, mount (with no arguments) shows your currently mounted partitions.   on that list, rw means read/write, ro means read only
[11:44] <lamego> nagyv_, ok, so you only need to change your sources.list to point to dapper
[11:44] <sethk> wweasel, for ext2, that's unusual
[11:44] <lamego> and perform a dist-upgrade
[11:45] <lamego> nagyv_, please be ware that some persons have experienced problems with the dist-upgrade
[11:45] <Leonrott> lamego, SystemLog			/var/log/syslog.log
[11:45] <wweasel> sethk: Yeah, it's rw
[11:45] <sethk> wweasel, usually you use the uid and gid options for file systems that don't have permissions, or to map external uid numbers to match internal ones, as for an nfs mount
[11:45] <Leonrott> lamego, hehe this is the line
[11:45] <nagyv_> I know, but I need a network connection to work, how could I get it?
[11:45] <sethk> wweasel, for a locally mounted ext2 file system, use chown and/or chmod to make the file permissions how you want them
[11:45] <eobanb_> har @ global notice
[11:45] <lamego> wweasel, the defaults for ext2 include rw, your problem must be with the permissions of the contents
[11:46] <TBNolan> which software?
[11:46] <eobanb_> TBNolan, gentoo 2006.1`
[11:46] <TBNolan> heh
[11:46] <sri> the reason I ask is that while I have the user tools, I'm not sure if dapper's kernel includes the evms patches already or if I have to apply it?
[11:46] <wimpies> guys when docs state that usbfs should be mounted on /proc/usb/bus but when I run mount I see probususb mounted on /proc/bus/usb ... does the usbfs/procbususb name difference matter ?
[11:46] <sethk> wimpies, no
[11:46] <Dimensions> hi ... i have previously updated kernel and i have two kernels options in ubuntu grub along with MS OS ... i wanted to remove the old kernel which i have simply deleted from /boot/grub/menu.lst ......... is that ok ? second part of my question is i have MS OS options at bottom i want to move it to first and second option should be of ubuntu ... how can i do it ?
[11:47] <sethk> wimpies, /proc/bus/usb makes a lot more sense, although they should be using /sys, not /proc, so it will change again
[11:47] <Leonrott> lamego, can i delete this line??
[11:47] <sethk> Dimensions, just move the windows lines up using an editor
[11:47] <TBNolan> /ping us.archive.ubuntu.com :-(
[11:48] <wimpies> it is that my zen is not detected although lsusb shows the device and I added a line to the rules.d file of udev to the propper vendor/product ID
[11:48] <sethk> Dimensions, make sure you get all the lines, likely three lines I think for windows
[11:48] <kees_> hi I have a problem mounting a ext3 partition
[11:48] <sethk> wimpies, kernel module for it probably isn't loaded
[11:48] <sethk> kees_, what problem?
[11:48] <kees_> I want it to be mounted at boot, in a way every user can store files on it
[11:48] <kees_> sethk: so I need write rights for every user
[11:49] <wimpies> sethk : doesn't that occur automatically ? and which module should that be ?
[11:49] <wimpies> ... for a ZEN ?
[11:49] <sethk> kees_, that's not a mount problem, that's a file and directory permissions issue
[11:49] <sethk> kees_, use chown and chmod to set the ownership and permissions the way you need them
[11:50] <Abst> IS synaptic/apt-get down for anyone else?
[11:50] <mots> hi
[11:50] <sri> ciao folks
[11:50] <TBNolan> Abst: yes, me
[11:50] <mots> do you know how to autologin in shell?
[11:50] <TBNolan> i think its us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:50] <TBNolan> that just hangs and hangs for me
[11:50] <Abst> Yeah
[11:50] <kees_> sethk: well I have a directory /home/kees/data which has normal permissions and is owned by the user kees and group kees
[11:50] <Abst> I guess i'll just have to wait
[11:50] <sethk> wimpies, doesn't necessarily occur automatically, no.  depends on the configuration.
[11:50] <TBNolan> me three
[11:50] <lamego> mots, you want to add some commands on system startup ?
[11:50] <Abst> I'll go play nethack
[11:50] <sethk> kees_, ok, then user kees can write to that directory.
[11:51] <kees_> sethk: but as soon as I mount with the command "mount ~/data", the owner chages to root root, although I mount it without sudo
[11:51] <mots> lamego: well, I want to autologin with my username/pw and run freevo
[11:51] <wimpies> sethk : i use dapper ... what should I do/add/change to load what is needed ?
[11:51] <sethk> kees_, that makes no sense
[11:51] <sethk> kees_, the mounting user must have permission to mount, but that has nothing to do with the permissions of the mounted partition and the files in it.
[11:51] <kees_> sethk: I have rw,user,auto as fstab options, should be alright?
[11:52] <lamego> mots, why do you want to autologin, dont you want that to run always during the system boot ?
[11:52] <sethk> kees_, yes, that should cause it to mount when you boot the system
[11:52] <mots> lamego: what do you mean?
[11:52] <sethk> kees_, if it is an ext3 file system, the ownership will not change by mounting it
[11:52] <harman> how do you stop ubuntu from booting directly into the graphical login?
[11:53] <mots> I only want to start my computer and have a working freevo running, without having to type in anything
[11:53] <sethk> kees_, you did say that's its ext3, right?
[11:53] <idefix> why can't you record a macro in the GIMP? can you record macro's in linux itself?
[11:53] <kees_> sethk: yes it is ext3
[11:53] <ompaul> harman, sudo apt-get install rcconf && sudo rcconf << when done turn off gdm and quit the program
[11:53] <kees_> sethk: the fstab line is like this: "/dev/sda5       /home/kees/data      ext3    rw,user,auto 0     0"
[11:54] <MetaMorfoziS> what i need to isntall for the "svn" cmd get working?
[11:54] <sethk> kees_, that's fine, but if you see it as owned by root and group root, use chown to change the ownership.  You'll have to use sudo chown -R kees:kees /home/kees/data
[11:54] <kees_> sethk: but when I type "mount ~/data" when logged in as Kees in a terminal, the ownership of ~/data changes to root root
[11:54] <mots> lamego?
[11:54] <mots> still here?
[11:54] <sethk> kees_, no, that can't happen
[11:54] <kees_> sethk: well it does :p
[11:54] <sethk> kees_, it doesn't change to root, root, it probably always was root root
[11:54] <sethk> kees_, no, it doesn't _change_,
[11:54] <sethk> kees_, why do you think it was ever other than root, root?
[11:54] <kees_> sethk: when I "ls -l" I see ~/data as kees:kees
[11:55] <sethk> kees_, oh, you are covering one directory with the mount
[11:55] <kees_> sethk: but after a mount performed as a user it's root:root
[11:55] <sethk> kees_, you have files in /home/kees/data, and when you mount over it, you cover those files with the files on the partition
[11:55] <Fille> Hi guys
[11:55] <sethk> kees_, you should mount only to an empty directory
[11:55] <kees_> sethk: when not mounted ~/data is totally empty
[11:55] <Fille> I'm having problems installing Firefox on my Kubuntu
[11:55] <eXistenZ> Which is better RSA or DSA?
[11:55] <harman> thanks
[11:55] <sethk> kees_, ok, then you haven't told me when the files were every other than root, root
[11:56] <Fille> Thought maybe one of you guys could help me
[11:56] <bruenig> Fille, what is the problem?
[11:56] <jrib> Fille: how are you trying to install it?
[11:56] <Fille> I've unpacked the content to here: /home/philip/Firefox/
[11:56] <bruenig> Fille, a simple sudo apt-get install firefox should do it
[11:56] <gimmulf_> Is there any good tool to repair .mp4 movies that suddenly freezez?
[11:56] <sethk> kees_, rather than try to figure out why something that can't happen does happen, it's better to try and figure out what your misconception is.
[11:56] <kees_> sethk: what do you mean by that? I don' t understand what you mean?
[11:56] <bruenig> Fille is there any reason you aren't using the firefox in the repos?
[11:56] <sethk> kees_, you mount it, and it is root, root.  in that case, it always was root, root
[11:57] <sethk> kees_, unless, of course, you changed it with chown
[11:57] <sethk> kees_, so I'm trying to find out when you saw it as other than root, root
[11:57] <kees_> sethk: and when I unount, it must be root:root too right?
[11:57] <sethk> kees_, and you tell me before you mount it
[11:57] <kees_> sethk: it is the directory ~/data
[11:57] <sethk> kees_, oh, you are talking about the permissions on the mount point
[11:57] <sethk> kees_, they don't matter, generally
[11:58] <sethk> kees_, do the mount, then if you want the directories and files to be kees:kees, do:   chown -R kees:kees ~/data
[11:58] <kees_> sethk: could you PM me I don' t want to bother all the other users, so I can explain again, when I PM you you don't see it I think
[11:58] <Fille> E: Unable to lock the administrative directory
[11:58] <looksaus> I have a quite exotic situation here:
[11:58] <sethk> kees_, if I don't see it, you must not have registered your nick with freenode
[11:58] <Fille> I get that error when typing that command
[11:58] <looksaus> an x86 without disks (no HD, no CD)
[11:58] <kees_> sethk: yes well that will work, but will it have ownership kees kees after it is mounten by a reboot of the system
[11:58] <sethk> kees_, it won't let you pm unless your nick is registered.  I am not blocking it.
[11:59] <looksaus> and a USB disk
[11:59] <lamego> Filbert, close the other application management programs
[11:59] <sethk> kees_, yes, that chown will be permanent
[11:59] <looksaus> I also have a ppc laptop
[11:59] <eXistenZ> Which is better RSA or DSA?
[11:59] <bruenig> Fille, you don't have adept or update manager or anything like that open do you?
[11:59] <eetfunk> is there an autoexec.bat-like file in ubuntu?  i want the os to run a command at bootup
[11:59] <kees_> sethk: aha let me try that then, thanks
[11:59] <lamego> existance, I believe its DSA, safer
[11:59] <sethk> kees_, ok, sorry if I'm confusing you.  :)
[11:59] <looksaus> any idea how I can create a bootable usb disk for this x86 machine ?
[11:59] <kees_> no not at all
[11:59] <bjunior> where is bash_profile in ubuntu?
[11:59] <existance> lamego, eh?
[11:59] <sethk> kees_, register your nick, it's easy and then you'll be able to pm people if you need to
[11:59] <gimmulf_> is there any good gui software for converting mp4 files?
[11:59] <kees_> sethk: but if I want the partition also to be mounten in another home dir what do I do then?
[11:59] <sethk> bjunior, /etc, for the system wide one.  your own is ~/.bash_profile
[12:00] <existance> lamego, perhaps you meant eXistenZ
[12:00] <lamego> ops, yes
[12:00] <Fille> I've got adept
[12:00] <sethk> kees_, you can mount it anywhere.  the ownership will still be kees:kees, though, regardless of where you mount it
[12:00] <Fille> but it says it's installed
[12:00] <Fille> but I don't see the program
[12:00] <bjunior> sethk , ok man
[12:00] <Fille> :((((
[12:00] <eXistenZ> existance, why are you using my nick ;[
[12:00] <lamego> Fille, try running it from the command line
[12:00] <bruenig> Fille, type do "firefox" in konsole