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| === jdong|coreduo 's pbuilder is so updated now it should be illegal | ||
| === jdong|coreduo wonders if his pbuilder should be including dapper-updates | ||
| jdong|coreduo | meh, can't hurt too much | 12:25 |
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| imbrandon | jdong|coreduo: your pbuilder should only have what a default dapper install has if your doing it for a main application | 12:38 |
| imbrandon | really depends on what your building | 12:39 |
| jdong|coreduo | imbrandon: backports | 12:39 |
| imbrandon | well if infinity cahnges soyuz to use universe then its all gravy | 12:39 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 12:39 |
| jdong|coreduo | :) | 12:39 |
| imbrandon | but i imagine he wont untill after knot 2 ships | 12:39 |
| kwwii_ | night all, time for sleep | 12:40 |
| imbrandon | gnight kwwii_ | 12:40 |
| kwwii_ | imbrandon: dude, are you on crank? How do you stay up all day? | 12:40 |
| imbrandon | hahaha i dont, i nap alot | 12:40 |
| kwwii_ | amazing | 12:41 |
| imbrandon | when i'm idle waiting for something to compile i nap ;) | 12:41 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 12:41 |
| kwwii_ | well, /me goes to sleep now | 12:41 |
| kwwii_ | see you tomorrow | 12:41 |
| imbrandon | cya | 12:41 |
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| jdong | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247456 | 01:05 |
| jdong | you've got to be kidding me | 01:05 |
| Lathiat | lol | 01:08 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: when? | 01:25 |
| imbrandon | ..... | 01:25 |
| imbrandon | when what ? | 01:25 |
| ryanakca | 01:25 | |
| ryanakca | banned them when? | 01:25 |
| imbrandon | heh yesterday | 01:26 |
| ryanakca | jdong|coreduo: lol... popcorn... give me a break | 01:27 |
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| ryanakca | hmmm... | 01:31 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca: | 01:31 |
| imbrandon | [Wed Aug 30 2006] [07:18:52] <imbrandon> btw moins all | 01:31 |
| imbrandon | [Wed Aug 30 2006] [07:19:27] <Riddell> unicode smileys are now banned here | 01:31 |
| imbrandon | [Wed Aug 30 2006] [07:19:31] <Riddell> cos I say so | 01:31 |
| imbrandon | [Wed Aug 30 2006] [07:19:52] <Hobbsee> woo! | 01:32 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 01:32 |
| ryanakca | lol | 01:34 |
| ryanakca | so today | 01:34 |
| ryanakca | I was grepping for "Tue" | 01:34 |
| ryanakca | fine.. ruin my fun | 01:35 |
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| ryanakca | it should be able to only autoreplace in certain channels | 01:35 |
| ryanakca | oops | 01:35 |
| ryanakca | ;) | 01:35 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ping | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | i need some "assitance" real fast, i know its late but its kinda semi urgent | 01:57 |
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| niKsternal | http://buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/release/ | 02:34 |
| niKsternal | do those images look ok? i am using them for the release as long as they are good | 02:34 |
| crimsun | a gallery would be great. | 02:35 |
| crimsun | meaning thumbnails on one page | 02:35 |
| niKsternal | ya, you get that...i dont' have access to creating one from class ;) | 02:35 |
| niKsternal | im sitting here learning about Linux right now | 02:36 |
| omeow | I still think the System Settings menu is wrong. | 02:36 |
| niKsternal | we know it is..it still needs to be fixed | 02:36 |
| omeow | Ok. :) | 02:37 |
| gnomefreak | wrong? | 02:37 |
| omeow | Yeah. | 02:37 |
| gnomefreak | define wrong it looks normal to me | 02:37 |
| omeow | Regional & Language and Regional & Accessibility share the same icon. | 02:37 |
| gnomefreak | true i didnt even see that | 02:38 |
| omeow | If a user wants to search for something, he'll have to search the settings page twice, once for General and one for Advanced settings. | 02:38 |
| omeow | The icon name is too similar as well. | 02:38 |
| omeow | Bluetooth is missing an icon. Dunno if that's going to be changed. My Settings menu still has one. | 02:38 |
| gnomefreak | ok point taken i cant beleive i missed all that | 02:39 |
| omeow | And my current menu also seems to be missing the "Launch Feedback" module. So all users will be stuck with a bouncing cursor and won't be able to switch it of. | 02:39 |
| omeow | If left in it's current state of course. | 02:39 |
| niKsternal | omeow: have you created bugs for this? | 02:40 |
| niKsternal | ;) | 02:40 |
| gnomefreak | cant we just name it language and than other one accessibility | 02:40 |
| niKsternal | thats up to the developers | 02:40 |
| omeow | I mentioned it to Riddell and he said these issues where known. So I don't think I need to file bugs then. | 02:40 |
| niKsternal | right now, those images are for the Knot 2 release. Which is occuring here pretty soon..within the next 12 hours | 02:41 |
| omeow | ok | 02:41 |
| gnomefreak | niKsternal: thats easy enough. | 02:41 |
| niKsternal | I have to get that page complete and then hand it over so it can get posted ;) | 02:41 |
| niKsternal | im sitting in class as well, not paying attention, (like usual) | 02:41 |
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| omeow | I'm quite anxious to learn how the menu is going to end up though. | 02:42 |
| omeow | To make the search work on both pages. | 02:42 |
| omeow | The only way I can see it working properly is to make the icons for those General and Advanced buttons turn gray as well. | 02:43 |
| omeow | (or light up of course) | 02:43 |
| omeow | If you don't mind getting more feedback; I don't see the point of having the trashbin accessible through the desktop and through the taskbar. Ask yourself, do you open that thing a lot? | 02:46 |
| niKsternal | the whole reason of the screenshots for a release is for people who don't want to install the unstable version right now..and yes we want the feedback, and have setup a feedback page | 02:47 |
| omeow | Where's that page? | 02:47 |
| niKsternal | hidden right now until the release is complete | 02:48 |
| omeow | Ok. | 02:48 |
| omeow | You mean knot2? | 02:48 |
| niKsternal | crimsun: you take a look at those? if so, you think they are ok? | 02:48 |
| niKsternal | yes omeow | 02:48 |
| omeow | Ok. | 02:48 |
| crimsun | niKsternal: a bit difficult in a text environment. | 02:49 |
| niKsternal | ahhh | 02:49 |
| niKsternal | no problem...enjoy your term session ;) | 02:49 |
| niKsternal | i can png2ascii them for you ;) | 02:50 |
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| === Hobbsee waves tiredly | ||
| gnomefreak | good morning Hobbsee :) | 03:11 |
| === Hobbsee is finally *starting* to wake up - after two hours of class. | ||
| gnomefreak | so your not ready for all the work for you today than? | 03:15 |
| gnomefreak | ;) | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: hah. well, seeing as i have no decent classes for the next 5 hours.... | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: what's my work for today? | 03:15 |
| gnomefreak | we were talking about some changes to the sys settings menu but i dont know if you do that or not | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: i dont code it, but i'm happy to have a say in it :) | 03:16 |
| gnomefreak | well like right now regional lang and regional accessibilty changing them to language and accessiblity? | 03:17 |
| gnomefreak | little things :) | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | ah yes, i noticed that. | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | i think i noticed that a while ago too, just didnt do anything about it | 03:18 |
| gnomefreak | i stayed up toi let you in on that since knot 2 is coming out in a day :) | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: true that | 03:19 |
| gnomefreak | keep the purple and im happy :) | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: what do regions have to do with accessibility anyway? | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:19 |
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| gnomefreak | hehe good point | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | i'm wondering at our session manager setting - why it's in advanced. | 03:20 |
| gnomefreak | whos the coder? | 03:20 |
| freeflying | morning all | 03:21 |
| gnomefreak | morning | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: _Sime | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | hey freeflying | 03:21 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | we could probably stick "date and time" under advanced - ntp updates it automatically anyway | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | in fact, we definetly can, as right clicking on the clock will let you change it anyway | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | probably advanced should be for "all the modules from everywhere, in one place" | 03:25 |
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| niKsternal | Hobbsee: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu | 03:59 |
| niKsternal | ^^ still needs some work..when i get home after class i will get it finished... | 03:59 |
| niKsternal | going to add amarok as well...anything that has umph you think we should add? | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | niKsternal: battery icons have changed/are changing, iirc | 04:02 |
| niKsternal | they will..but that is how they will look for knot 2 | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | right | 04:02 |
| niKsternal | they should be changed for knot 3 though ;) | 04:02 |
| niKsternal | i have fixed images for the volume up and mute as well at home | 04:02 |
| niKsternal | when i get home i will knock that out..get amarok on there..and doctor up some of the stuff as well | 04:03 |
| niKsternal | show should i contact with that info so when they do the release announcement, they have our info? | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | that last sentence made no sense | 04:03 |
| niKsternal | haha, who not show ;) | 04:03 |
| niKsternal | we are learning ssh right now ;) | 04:05 |
| niKsternal | fun | 04:05 |
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| Hobbsee | ooh, pretty :) | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | new konqueror. one of the images is still bright blue though! | 04:12 |
| niKsternal | that is the latest konqi though..i took it tonight before class | 04:13 |
| niKsternal | i don't think the new images made it in before the freeze | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | freeze only came in last night | 04:13 |
| niKsternal | the ones imbrandon did right? | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | not sure | 04:14 |
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| niKsternal | hehe | 04:14 |
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| Hobbsee | _Sime: ping? | 04:23 |
| niKsternal | Hobbsee: i msg'd Kamion with that page info, as it seems he is the one who releases the announcments..i linked him to that page..hope that was ok ;) | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | niKsternal: ah right, cool | 04:27 |
| niKsternal | i need to get krdc working with my firewall and router at home too...i can't stand using fedora anymore | 04:27 |
| niKsternal | alright...time to head home here in a few..bbiab | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: ah, you are here too :P | 04:30 |
| Jucato | yep! sitting in and keeping quiet :-D | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 04:30 |
| === Hobbsee wonders what quiet is | ||
| === Jucato thinks "quiet" means silently watching the conversation and laughing... :-D | ||
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: you have a weird and warped system. | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: i cant reproduce that kpager bug | 04:31 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: lol | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: oh, wait | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | ive seen something similar to that before though, if not the same thing | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: does that happen with a new user? | 04:32 |
| ryanakca | erm... just a sec | 04:32 |
| === Hobbsee counts | ||
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: sec is up :P | 04:32 |
| ryanakca | lol | 04:33 |
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| Hobbsee | gah. what do we do with translation bugs? is there anywhere we can throw them at rosetta-type people, and say "deal with this?" | 04:36 |
| imbrandon | what kind of bug ? | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | we should fix https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/19767 | 04:38 |
| Ubug2 | Malone bug 19767 in kdebase "Kde help search fails too quietly if htdig is not installed" [Medium,Confirmed] | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: this time? bugs with the polish translation | 04:38 |
| === ryanakca loves his purple | ||
| Hobbsee | at least the second half of that bug. | 04:38 |
| imbrandon | bug as in what , its not translated yet or translated wrong ? | 04:39 |
| imbrandon | assign the polish translation team | 04:39 |
| === Jucato thinks he will learn to love purple very soon... | ||
| imbrandon | and no nixternal the images havent been created yet, so whats in there now WILL be in knot2 | 04:41 |
| imbrandon | just becosue its a freeze dosent mean there were some still updated and some still on the buildd's | 04:41 |
| imbrandon | untill the images are made ( e.g iso's ) its game | 04:42 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell: for some reason top-right-konqueror.png dident get patched in ( open konqui and you'll see ) | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | i'm off to bed for a while before i kill someone | 04:44 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: I think it's my messed up system | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | gnight nixternal / Hobbsee | 04:44 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: I'll look more into it in the morning | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: right, okay. want to reject teh bug? | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | night imbrandon | 04:45 |
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| ryanakca | sure... and kdm is messed up too... I see part of my screen (like part of my kde session last time I logged out) beneath the glassy login part... even when I start a new session or reboot | 04:46 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: heh, which one? | 04:46 |
| imbrandon | some stupid igorant ones that dont think we should change the defaults for ANYTHING, i mean we're a fucking distro we have the right to, not only that we've been doing it 2+ years | 04:47 |
| === imbrandon grumbles | ||
| imbrandon | long story , lets just say it all started over an app that has its "tray icon" turned on by default in kubuntu-default-settings | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ahhhh.... | 04:48 |
| imbrandon | and i'm highy fucking pissed over the way upstream reacted when they "found out" we change the defaults of most apps | 04:48 |
| imbrandon | not like ever fucking distro on the planet dosent do that | 04:49 |
| === Hobbsee sends imbrandon to bed. | ||
| imbrandon | grrrr | 04:49 |
| imbrandon | s/ever/every | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: which package was this, btw? | 04:49 |
| === Hobbsee makes a note to be careful of that upstream | ||
| imbrandon | sho | 04:49 |
| imbrandon | becouse we change the default to make the icon show in the fucking system tray | 04:49 |
| imbrandon | i got into an arguement with him for 2 hours about it | 04:50 |
| imbrandon | fuck it, its fucking open souce, man i'm seeing rfucking red | 04:50 |
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| Hobbsee | ah | 04:51 |
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| Hobbsee | it's probably not the wisest idea in the world to get into arguments with people who have been staying up most of the time to finish off an app for release. | 04:52 |
| imbrandon | thats not the point | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | true, but it's not helping | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | and thats not the whole story | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: how would you know ? it actualy DID help | 04:53 |
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| imbrandon | grrr i'm too fucking pissed i'll explain later | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | indeed. | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | gnight | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | night | 04:54 |
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| nixternal | wow, he was a little mad to say the least... | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | heh. true that | 05:54 |
| === Hobbsee shrugs | ||
| Hobbsee | i wonder what was said | 05:54 |
| nixternal | i could only imagine..but i try to stay away from situations like that | 05:56 |
| crimsun | People tend to become rather defensive regarding their works. | 05:56 |
| crimsun | It's sad that that particular upstream doesn't see the value-add. | 05:58 |
| nixternal | i like the icon in the task bar, and truthfully, wouldn't have any other way | 06:00 |
| nixternal | it flashes to let me know i have been hilighted | 06:01 |
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| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu | 07:30 |
| nixternal | ^^ review needed please | 07:30 |
| Lathiat | oh no the orange is invading kubuntu | 07:36 |
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| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu | 08:21 |
| nixternal | doctored up, i think about ready to go | 08:21 |
| Tonio_ | yop nixternal | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | just read the log, imbrandon got crazy last night :) | 08:25 |
| === Tonio_ wonders what happened exactly | ||
| nixternal | lol | 08:25 |
| Tonio_ | and mostly I wonder what application :) | 08:26 |
| Tonio_ | maybe I changed that famous setting he got fucked up for ;) | 08:26 |
| nixternal | konversation i believe | 08:26 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: I changed that indeed :) | 08:31 |
| nixternal | hehe | 08:32 |
| Tonio_ | [General Options] | 08:32 |
| Tonio_ | ShowTrayIcon=true | 08:32 |
| Tonio_ | TrayNotify=true | 08:32 |
| Tonio_ | TrayNotifyOnlyOwnNick=true | 08:32 |
| Tonio_ | hehe, that's me ;) | 08:32 |
| nixternal | keep it, i like it ;) | 08:32 |
| nixternal | so does imbrandon as well | 08:33 |
| Tonio_ | I don't understand why are those developpers doing opensource if they don't accept that we change the settings | 08:33 |
| Tonio_ | don't use gpl in that case | 08:33 |
| Tonio_ | that's completly stupid | 08:33 |
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| nixternal | i agree with you 200% on that | 08:34 |
| nixternal | we didn't change the source one bit | 08:34 |
| nixternal | we just tweaked a "local" setting | 08:34 |
| Tonio_ | that's obvious | 08:34 |
| Tonio_ | true | 08:34 |
| Tonio_ | and even if we did patch the source, where is the problem ? | 08:35 |
| Tonio_ | what is the need of the source code if not patching it | 08:35 |
| Tonio_ | if the goal is not to touch anything, use a proprietary licence and that's it | 08:35 |
| nixternal | yup | 08:36 |
| nixternal | there has to be more behind it though | 08:36 |
| Tonio_ | probably yes | 08:36 |
| _Sime | is it just me that always wants to change konq from Icon view to Details view and gets annoyed that there isn't a button for that on the toolbar? | 08:49 |
| === nixternal too | ||
| _Sime | I just want an Icon View button and a Details View button in Konq, and its just not there and I just can't get that configured. | 08:52 |
| seaLne | wow dapper -> edgy is nearly a Gb | 08:52 |
| nixternal | i have looked at it..and just did again..and you can't even customize the toolbar to add a "view" section at all | 08:52 |
| _Sime | no you can't. It's sucky like that. | 08:54 |
| === _Sime hopes that this can be fixed for Edgy. | ||
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| Tonio_ | _Sime: yes, there is no button for this.... I should have a look at that | 09:14 |
| === Tonio_ notes that on todo | ||
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| _Sime | cool | 09:30 |
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| nixternal | hmmm..it seems recent updates broke vmware..is this true for anyone else? | 09:53 |
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| seaLne | has anyone tried to use lvm recently for an install? | 10:18 |
| Lathiat | in dapper or edgy? | 10:19 |
| seaLne | edgy | 10:19 |
| Hobbsee | not fo an edgy install sorry | 10:19 |
| Lathiat | ditto | 10:19 |
| Lathiat | but last check the UUID= stuff and raid/lvm didnt get alon | 10:19 |
| Lathiat | but that was a couple weeks ago | 10:19 |
| seaLne | it only seems to allow 1 lvm partition which kind of defeats the purpose of using lvm | 10:19 |
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| Hobbsee | oh cool. konvi UVF exception got almost-approved | 10:22 |
| shining | did anyone experience klipper crash on startup? | 10:23 |
| Hobbsee | shining: Tonio_ mentioned it yesterday, i believe | 10:23 |
| shining | is this kubuntu specific? | 10:24 |
| shining | I didn't experience it before, thus I was hesitating to report it to upstream | 10:24 |
| shining | did he report anything? | 10:24 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure. my brain needs a reboot | 10:25 |
| shining | yes, he did | 10:25 |
| === Hobbsee takes out her brain, shakes it, and puts it back in again | ||
| shining | maybe not upstream though | 10:25 |
| shining | lol | 10:25 |
| shining | is your brain still running windows? | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | no, i'ts running linux. but it's very, very tired. | 10:25 |
| shining | maybe you should hibernate it then | 10:26 |
| Hobbsee | i wish | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | shining: yes it is a known problem | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | shining: workarround for the moment is to delete ~/.kde/share/config/klipperrc | 10:29 |
| shining | is it reproducable in vanilla kde? | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | that'll work, but that'll recrash as soon as you set paremeters to it | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | shining: I'm unsure, but it hasn't been reported to kde afaik | 10:30 |
| shining | I never experienced this on debian | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | shining: this is one of the top priority bugs to fix before release | 10:30 |
| shining | ok | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | shining: and how about debian + 3.5.4 ? | 10:30 |
| shining | yes | 10:30 |
| shining | I was using 3.5.4 | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | I'm almost certain it is a kubuntu issue in fact but due to a kind of bug in klipperrc code | 10:31 |
| shining | oh wait, I missed something | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | in fact klipper fails to load the config file when passed as a parameter | 10:31 |
| shining | why is there a klipperrc, I didn't configure anything in klipper | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | segfault | 10:31 |
| shining | ah | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | shining: kde creates the config via startkde | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | that's kde, not kubuntu | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | it is one of the file created with the kde configuration | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | the error appeared arround 20 august, we should focus the changes done those days to figure out what changed | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | we didn't have any issue before | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | I assume a patch in kdebase or kdelibs can cause this | 10:33 |
| shining | oh, right, something did happen in kubuntu then :) it already had 3.5.4 before this date, right? | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | yes, and it worked | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is knot2 will have the issue | 10:33 |
| shining | it can't be delayed? | 10:34 |
| Hobbsee | no | 10:34 |
| Tonio_ | nope | 10:34 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: have the cds already been built yet? guess they have | 10:34 |
| Tonio_ | but knot unstable isn"t an issue | 10:34 |
| Tonio_ | the point is stable edgy final | 10:34 |
| Tonio_ | and I hope it'll get fixed before release | 10:34 |
| Tonio_ | the error occured between 14th and 21th of august | 10:35 |
| shining | so is it reproducable after kde has been started again ? is it possible to give a config file as parameter on cli? | 10:35 |
| Tonio_ | we should look at the chagelogs in kdebase, kdelibs and maybe kdeutils in that period | 10:36 |
| Tonio_ | shining: it should crash as long as the config file is given as parameter | 10:36 |
| Tonio_ | it wont if you juste launch klipper | 10:36 |
| shining | but | 10:36 |
| Tonio_ | without any parameter, the config file is read and used | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | that's the tricky part :) | 10:37 |
| shining | yes, that's weird | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | that's sucks you mean :) | 10:37 |
| shining | a parameter doesn't need to be given for it to read the config file | 10:37 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: what happens if you axe the config file, sorry? | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | shining: true, but I suspect kdelibs to give the files as parameters when using a desktop file to launch the app | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: crash | 10:38 |
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| Tonio_ | shining: the point is launching klipper via konsole works, but via desktop file fails | 10:38 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: ahh, right | 10:38 |
| shining | how does the run command work? it uses a desktop file as well? | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | I tried to play with the desktop file, it doesn't help | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | I must say I'm a bit lost on that point | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | what could be interesting is trying an old klipper on edgy | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | or maybe building it from svn | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | and figure out what happens | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | shining: nope, the command uses the binary | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | directly | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | not the desktop file | 10:39 |
| shining | it crash there too | 10:39 |
| shining | I saw it in the bug report and tried | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | the point is that if it was an error in kdelibs, that wouldn't touch only klipper | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | that's why I'm getting lsot | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | lost | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | I suspect the error is somehow in klipper code, but appears in a very specific case we have "discovered" | 10:40 |
| seaLne | todays alternate fails on base install | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I have all the fixes for katapult, so the 2 remaining bugs are now the klipper one and the sata optical devices one | 10:41 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: nice! :) | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I just wait for knot2 freeze to end to upload | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: yeah, sensible, otherwise mithandir will have your head. | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | k-s-s now builds too and I have a package ready for upload | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | k-s-s? k-system-settings or something? | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | and kds with a few improvements too :) | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yes, kde-systemsettings | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: right, yep | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: nice :D | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | next step for me will be that klipper bug | 10:43 |
| === Hobbsee ndos | ||
| Hobbsee | *nods | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | smart | 10:43 |
| === seaLne wonders when knot2 is supposed to come out if the dailys still don't work | ||
| Tonio_ | and probably contact ervin concerning the sata devices problem, since it is probably too complicated for us to fix | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | sealne, I honnesly don't understand the need of knot versions | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | it is lost time for final release | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | morning Riddell | 10:44 |
| seaLne | aren't they supposed to be known working for more widespread testing? | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | and when the release schedule is only 4 month, it is probably not a great idea than freezing everything for 3 days, 3 times :) | 10:45 |
| Riddell | morning Hobbsee | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: well, it is nice to test installers, but concerning the distro, everyone than wants to test can install dapper and upgrade... | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | I don't see the point | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yop ;) | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: but forget this, I'm just in a bad mood today | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 10:46 |
| seaLne | so are you planning on swearing lots in the channel aswell? ;-) | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: that's an idea | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 10:47 |
| === Tonio_ just noticed Riddell didn't respond :'( | ||
| Tonio_ | seaLne: how can I be in a good mood if even here I'm getting ignored... | 10:49 |
| === Tonio_ feels alone | ||
| seaLne | what was that? | 10:49 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: hu ? | 10:49 |
| seaLne | nm | 10:49 |
| Tonio_ | network-manager ? | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | I don't understand seaLne :) | 10:50 |
| === seaLne is in a good mood anyway as he now has a new desktop at work | ||
| Tonio_ | seaLne: and I am obliged to sell my desktop | 10:50 |
| seaLne | nm == never mind, i was just being sarcastic | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | my girlfriend's appartment is too little for my 2 desktops and 2 laptops....... | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | :'( huuuuuuuuuuuu :'( | 10:51 |
| === Tonio_ should have kept is appartment | ||
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| nixternal | heh, my place was to small for my girlfriend...should of kept the dog instead | 10:52 |
| seaLne | far simpler being single :-/ | 10:55 |
| nixternal | yes it is | 10:55 |
| nixternal | hehe | 10:55 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: did not respond to what? | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: to my "yop" ;) | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 10:57 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I have no idea what a yop is, other than a yoguhart drink | 10:57 |
| shining | so there was one commit at 18 Aug and one at 20 Aug | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: a french frendly way to say "hello" | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | but forget this, I'm just crappy today ^^ | 10:58 |
| nixternal | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu rolled up and ready, passed on to Mithrandir, and will be published in the announcement | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: how about the freeze ? when will it officially end ? | 10:59 |
| nixternal | couldn't tell you that, but i know they are working out the final kinks before releasing knot 2 now | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: great | 10:59 |
| nixternal | alrighty, the clock just struck 4am..time for some zzzz's | 11:00 |
| nixternal | g'nite all | 11:00 |
| Riddell | yop yop Tonio_ | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | okay let's go, I have to give back the keys of my appartment... | 11:00 |
| Riddell | nixternal: perfect, good stuff | 11:00 |
| nixternal | thx | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: :-D | 11:00 |
| allee | nixternal: incrediable job!!!! | 11:00 |
| nixternal | thanks allee | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: very nice job indeed ! | 11:01 |
| nixternal | if the download url is different, it will need to be changed ;) | 11:01 |
| nixternal | but i took a stab at the knot-2 as that is how it was for knot-1 | 11:01 |
| nixternal | thanks Tonio_ | 11:01 |
| shining | Tonio_: are these the 2 dates where kdebase could have been broken? | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | shining: in between those 2 days, yes, certainly | 11:02 |
| shining | there is something wrong with the date I'm afraid | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I was thinking about knm | 11:02 |
| shining | 20th happened before 18th | 11:03 |
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| shining | ubuntu7, then ubuntu8 | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | shouldn't we now ship knetworkmanager by default and giving wlassistant as a replacement in case knm doesn't work ? | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: knm is widely used and reasonably stable now | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | should be discussed in the next meeting probably | 11:04 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: thats up to keybuk really, he has reasons to not ship by default | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 11:05 |
| allee | nixternal: do you edit wiki pages with the browser (a pain for me with huge pages) or have you a trick to load/edit/upload via kate? | 11:06 |
| shining | Tonio_: where can I find the older versions of kdebase and kdelibs? | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | shining: launchpad | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | I have to ping sladen concerning the sony vaios laptop buttons, since he now has the solution, but it hasn't been implemented | 11:08 |
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| Tonio_ | shining: you will find source packages | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | I have to go, seya toonight | 11:09 |
| shining | ok | 11:09 |
| seaLne | knot1 won't even install on my machine weird i wonder if it dosen't like lvm | 11:21 |
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| shining | oh, fsck it | 12:20 |
| shining | I rebuilt ubuntu6 packages, only reinstalled klipper, restarted kde, and no crash anymore | 12:21 |
| shining | and since then, I can't get it to crash again | 12:21 |
| shining | even after reinstalling the current version | 12:21 |
| Riddell | one of those crashes | 12:21 |
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| rouzic | Hi Riddell | 12:54 |
| Riddell | hi rouzic | 12:54 |
| rouzic | I am testing due to the fact that I go 2 days that a kernel panic gives me in the macbook on having initiated and am verifying that package can fail. | 12:55 |
| rouzic | Has some update done 3.5.4 to the kde of kubuntu.org during these 2 days? | 12:55 |
| Riddell | nothing has changed there | 12:56 |
| rouzic | Oks, Thanks | 12:57 |
| rouzic | Probably it is the update of the acpi | 12:58 |
| Riddell | always a good candidate | 01:00 |
| Riddell | rouzic: update from where? dapper-updates/ | 01:00 |
| Riddell | ? | 01:00 |
| rouzic | yes | 01:01 |
| Riddell | hmm, that is not good | 01:01 |
| rouzic | Please append a correct "root=" boot option | 01:01 |
| rouzic | Kernel Panic: Not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs ok unknown-block (8,3) | 01:02 |
| Riddell | rouzic: report a bug on that and put dapper-updates in the title | 01:02 |
| rouzic | I have reinstalled 4 times, in one of them actualize the whole system without doing ningun change and this kernel panic returned to appear | 01:03 |
| rouzic | launchpad? | 01:03 |
| rouzic | ningun?never | 01:04 |
| rouzic | =never* | 01:04 |
| Riddell | rouzic: yes | 01:05 |
| rouzic | Oks :) | 01:06 |
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| shining | oh, all bots are reconnecting | 01:09 |
| shining | I'm scared :p | 01:09 |
| _Sime | who here thinks that the gamma tab in displayconfig is too complex? | 01:09 |
| Riddell | _Sime: hard to say since I do not really understand what gamma is | 01:10 |
| shining | who thinks it's useful? | 01:10 |
| Riddell | it will be useful if you are an artist who knows about colours | 01:10 |
| _Sime | Riddell: I take that as a vote for "too complex" ;-) | 01:10 |
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| rouzic | Riddell: The package linux-restricted-modules-common? | 01:12 |
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| rouzic | Riddell: I havn't a problem :) | 01:21 |
| Riddell | what is that? | 01:23 |
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| Tm_T | welcome StyXman | 01:41 |
| StyXman | Tm_T: heh | 01:45 |
| StyXman | ok, so I have a async kio thing working, but seems like it misses the first data() signal. | 01:47 |
| StyXman | ahm, I'm talking about pykde, sorry | 01:47 |
| Riddell | hmm, _Sime is the only one who knows about pykde and kioslaves | 01:48 |
| StyXman | the code is this: | 01:48 |
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| StyXman | http://pastebin.com/780528 | 01:50 |
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| Riddell | StyXman: looks sane, does it get later information? | 02:15 |
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| Lure | Riddell: is Knot2 candidate already out? | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | hey all | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: i dont think so | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | Lure: not yet | 02:20 |
| Lure | any ETA? | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | no kopete 0.12.2 announcement, it looks like | 02:20 |
| === Hobbsee shrugs | ||
| Hobbsee | Lure: main's frozen now for it | 02:20 |
| seaLne | i think it depends how the currently being built ones turn out | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | true that | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | no point releasing a dead disk. | 02:21 |
| Riddell | Lure: nope | 02:22 |
| Riddell | Lure: waiting on qtparted to enter the archive | 02:22 |
| Lure | ok, no pb - just want to reinstall my laptop | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/drivers-face-random-drug-tests/2006/08/31/1156817008617.html | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | yay....another thing for them to pull me over for at "random" | 02:24 |
| Tm_T | kwwii_: me too! | 02:28 |
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| jjesse | join #ubuntu-bugs | 03:02 |
| bddebian | Heya | 03:03 |
| jjesse | doh | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 03:03 |
| Tm_T | jjesse: I won't | 03:27 |
| Tm_T | no matter how you advertise it | 03:27 |
| jjesse | grin | 03:27 |
| jjesse | forgot the / | 03:27 |
| Tm_T | yeah, so they always say | 03:27 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 03:28 |
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| Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/bugs/58320 | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | oops | 03:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 58320 in kdenetwork "edgy's kdenetwork-dev is not installable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 03:47 |
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| Hobbsee | we should remove that dep as a part of kdenetwork-dev | 03:48 |
| StyXman | 14:15 < Riddell> StyXman: looks sane, does it get later information? | 03:51 |
| StyXman | Riddell: yes it does. | 03:51 |
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| === Hobbsee assigns that bug to herself, and leaves it alone. | ||
| Hobbsee | didnt even think to check the rdepends..... | 03:55 |
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| kubuntu_tester | hello folks | 03:57 |
| kubuntu_tester | I dont know if this is the correct place | 03:58 |
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| Hobbsee | hi jsgotangco | 03:58 |
| kubuntu_tester | I have installed vncserver and have some trouble with keyboard mapping in a client side program | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | kubuntu_tester: is it listed in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vnc/+bugs ? | 04:00 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 04:00 |
| kubuntu_tester | Hobbsee: nope | 04:01 |
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| kubuntu_tester | is it possible that the package was compiled with only one keyboard layout? | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | anything's possible | 04:24 |
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| jdong | so.... does dist-upgrading to edgy work? | 04:46 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: maybe :P | 04:46 |
| jdong | a bunch of stuff is being kept back :-/ | 04:46 |
| jjesse | jdong: i did it | 04:46 |
| jdong | 748 upgraded, 84 newly installed, 18 to remove and 34 not upgraded. | 04:47 |
| jdong | hmm, it's not gonna keep kubuntu-desktop | 04:47 |
| === jdong cringes | ||
| jjesse | i had to do a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in order to get x to work correctly | 04:47 |
| jdong | k | 04:47 |
| === jdong commences dist-upgrade | ||
| jdong | on a test laptop, of course | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:48 |
| === Hobbsee upgraded her *only* laptop | ||
| Hobbsee | then clean installed. *shrugs* | 04:48 |
| jdong | lol | 04:48 |
| jdong | if this works, I'll consider upgrading mr coreduo | 04:48 |
| jdong | but I need that system to be rock solid | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | so you want to put edgy on it? | 04:50 |
| jdong | it's either put edgy on it or backport edgy to it | 04:50 |
| jdong | :) | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:50 |
| jdong | and with the latter, I'm already like halfway there | 04:50 |
| === jdong has a lot of ~dapper0.1 packages on that system :) | ||
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| freeflying | jdong: can we backports packages in main from edgy to dapper, thanks | 04:51 |
| jdong | freeflying: depends on what package | 04:51 |
| freeflying | jdong: which type can be? | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | night all | 04:52 |
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| jdong | freeflying: anything that builds in dapper, won't break, is not currently beta in nature, etc etc etc | 04:52 |
| jdong | freeflying: what were you thinking of? | 04:52 |
| freeflying | jdong: prepare backport scim-chewing and scim-pinyin, which work not too well in dapper | 04:53 |
| jdong | freeflying: it has been requested before, and IIRC it couldn't be done according to the resident scim expert | 04:54 |
| jdong | :( | 04:54 |
| freeflying | jdong: why? anyway, there are not too much changes , just some conffiles :) | 04:55 |
| jdong | freeflying: there was something about it requiring a backport of the entire scim stack | 04:56 |
| freeflying | jdong: needn't th whole, just the modules of scim | 04:57 |
| jdong | freeflying: I'm just saying what I've been told... if you want, you can ask in #ubuntu-devel and find some answers | 04:58 |
| jdong | if they say it's ok, I'll do it | 04:58 |
| jdong | maybe my memory fails me :) | 04:58 |
| freeflying | jdong: thanks :) | 04:58 |
| freeflying | jdong: btw: do you know how to set up a buildd :) | 04:59 |
| jdong | never tried :) | 04:59 |
| freeflying | thanks | 04:59 |
| === freeflying beds time, nite all | ||
| Viper550 | Still, I'd love to get my hands on the new buttons and lighting in the Crystal windecoration in Edgy... | 05:02 |
| kwwii | Viper550: I can give it to you | 05:03 |
| kwwii | I have svgs | 05:03 |
| kwwii | but now is meeting, bbl | 05:03 |
| Viper550 | the actual source code... | 05:03 |
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| seaLne | Riddell: did you see my PM? | 05:06 |
| Riddell | seaLne: yes, but meeting now in the way of reading it | 05:06 |
| seaLne | k | 05:06 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel! | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/hwdb/ | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/powermanager/ | TODO: Gamin fixes at: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Merges at: http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings - Next Meeting: 7 September, 2100 UTC | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Wed Aug 30 16:19:24 2006 | ||
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| nixternal | moins | 05:37 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: I assume you would have nothing against using a different amarok theme? | 05:45 |
| Riddell | kwwii: if it a better theme of course not | 05:46 |
| gnomefreak | is there an eta on knot-2? | 05:50 |
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| jdong | it's knot too far away :P | 05:51 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 05:51 |
| nixternal | hours ;) | 05:51 |
| jdong | sorry, couldn't resist | 05:51 |
| === jdong will stop making puns in #kubuntu-devel | ||
| nixternal | i was going to do it as well, you just beat me to it ;) | 05:52 |
| gnomefreak | it livens it up | 05:52 |
| jdong | lol | 05:52 |
| jdong | well, it's time for me to do a reboot | 05:52 |
| jdong | just dist-upgraded to edgy | 05:52 |
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| jdong | hope things work :) | 05:52 |
| gnomefreak | X might not | 05:52 |
| gnomefreak | :( | 05:52 |
| exobuzz | not everything works :-) | 05:52 |
| jdong | well, I reinstalled kubuntu-desktop | 05:53 |
| gnomefreak | i still see people having to install xserver-xorg-video-all | 05:53 |
| exobuzz | vmware doesnt work as of today.. | 05:53 |
| jdong | hmm, doesn't look like the dist-upgrade was complete | 05:53 |
| === jdong manually fidgets with apt | ||
| nixternal | exobuzz: good to hear your vmware doesn't work! cuz mine does either...libpng12.so.0 > libcairo? | 05:54 |
| nixternal | mine doesn't* | 05:54 |
| exobuzz | nixternal: yup. its on the forums too.. | 05:54 |
| gnomefreak | hmmmm | 05:54 |
| exobuzz | nixternal: someone posted a workaround, but i failed to get that working too :/ | 05:54 |
| gnomefreak | just in vmware | 05:54 |
| nixternal | ya, i tried all the workarounds noted... | 05:54 |
| exobuzz | the libpng problem is not actually preventing it from working | 05:54 |
| exobuzz | its to do with new hal/dbus | 05:54 |
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| nixternal | hiya imbrandon ;) | 05:55 |
| jdong | hey imbrandon | 05:55 |
| jdong | guess who's dist-upgrading to edgy? ;) | 05:55 |
| gnomefreak | what does hal/dbus have to do with vmware though? | 05:55 |
| === kwwii thinks about hacking the Korma theme for amarok | ||
| exobuzz | it uses it ? | 05:55 |
| gnomefreak | exobuzz: so does non vmware and non vmware has no real issues | 05:56 |
| exobuzz | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247350 | 05:56 |
| exobuzz | Aug 31 15:42:09: vmui| HAL04LoadHALLibraries: Could not dlopen libhal.so.0. | 05:57 |
| exobuzz | Aug 31 15:42:09: vmui| HAL05LoadGlibLibrary: Could not dlopen libdbus-glib-1.so.1. | 05:57 |
| jdong | apparently there's a solution listed in there :-/ | 05:57 |
| exobuzz | thats why its failing | 05:57 |
| jdong | though it sounds hackish | 05:57 |
| exobuzz | jdong: yeh by copying older versions of hte libs into vmware. but it didnt work for me ? | 05:57 |
| imbrandon | lo jdong nixternal | 05:57 |
| exobuzz | jdong: not sure what i did wrong. | 05:58 |
| jdong | exobuzz: I'm not sure either | 05:58 |
| jdong | well, here we go | 05:58 |
| === jdong reboots | ||
| jdong | brb | 05:58 |
| exobuzz | ok i got vmware working.. | 06:00 |
| nixternal | what? | 06:00 |
| nixternal | how | 06:00 |
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| jdong | wow, it worked | 06:01 |
| exobuzz | there are instructions in that thread. but they are not very clear | 06:01 |
| gnomefreak | jdong: :) i guess it worked | 06:01 |
| jdong | except klipper crashed | 06:01 |
| gnomefreak | jdong: 3.5.4? | 06:01 |
| jdong | edgy | 06:01 |
| exobuzz | grab the archive attached to the post and do "mkdir /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2" "mkdir /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libhal.so.1" | 06:01 |
| exobuzz | put the libs in the archive into the corresponding new dirs | 06:02 |
| jdong | imbrandon: is klipper crashing in edgy a known bug? | 06:02 |
| gnomefreak | restart it klipper hasnt crashed for me yet on kde3.5.4 | 06:02 |
| shining | yes | 06:02 |
| jdong | hmm, after 2 restarts it worked again | 06:02 |
| shining | I could reproduce it easily at first, but not anymore | 06:02 |
| imbrandon | jdong yea delete your klipperrc in ~ | 06:02 |
| imbrandon | then its fine | 06:02 |
| shining | but, how do you reproduce it then? | 06:03 |
| jdong | ah | 06:03 |
| imbrandon | tonio knows about it and is working onit | 06:03 |
| shining | the kilpperrc is recreated then, and it still works | 06:03 |
| shining | so how do you reproduce it? | 06:03 |
| imbrandon | if there is a klipperrc in the ~ dir it will segfault on kde start | 06:03 |
| imbrandon | shining: ^ | 06:03 |
| gnomefreak | i guess mine never made that file | 06:05 |
| imbrandon | gnomefreak: it dosent unless you change the configuration | 06:05 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 06:05 |
| imbrandon | of it | 06:05 |
| nixternal | exobuzz: ok, the corresponding files to the directory ok...what about the libhal? do i put those in the 2 new directories as well? | 06:06 |
| imbrandon | wow lots of email today, apt-mirror patches, amarok patches , konversation , looks like i'll be busy today | 06:06 |
| exobuzz | the libdbus library (and symlink) go into /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2 the libhal and symlink go into /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libhal.so.1 | 06:06 |
| shining | I have one kilpperrc file now, but still no luck | 06:06 |
| nixternal | imbrandon: i grabbed a couple dews last night for class..i drank the first one and started shaking...now i have to sign up for mda | 06:06 |
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| exobuzz | oh wait.. thats wrong.. both need to be in the first directory too.. | 06:08 |
| exobuzz | let me check.. | 06:08 |
| shining | imbrandon: I don't think I changed the config before seeing the crash the first times | 06:08 |
| shining | since it stopped, I didn't manage to get it back | 06:08 |
| shining | with or without config | 06:08 |
| jdong | I like the new artwork, btw | 06:09 |
| exobuzz | the libhal dir isnt needed.. | 06:09 |
| exobuzz | im wrong.. | 06:09 |
| nixternal | where does libhal go then? | 06:09 |
| exobuzz | in the dbus folder | 06:09 |
| nixternal | in both of them? | 06:10 |
| exobuzz | i onyl have one and it seems to eb working | 06:10 |
| exobuzz | im not sure. i need to reboot and make sure | 06:10 |
| exobuzz | brb | 06:10 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: any pointers on compiz/kde under edgy? | 06:12 |
| === jdong has an intel integrated GPU | ||
| jdong | and feels especially daring | 06:12 |
| imbrandon | jdong sure, but give me a few i got a flood of stuff that i need to catch up on | 06:12 |
| shining | it doesn't seem usable | 06:13 |
| jdong | k, no hurry, lol, just eye candy :) | 06:13 |
| shining | afaik you need exa | 06:13 |
| imbrandon | yea i have it working perfect on an intel gpu | 06:13 |
| imbrandon | i845 to be exact | 06:13 |
| shining | using xaa? | 06:13 |
| imbrandon | no | 06:14 |
| imbrandon | ok /me back to work | 06:14 |
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| imbrandon | heya Mez | 06:14 |
| Mez | hey imbrandon | 06:15 |
| imbrandon | jdong can you look at the uvf you filed for ktorrent and do what kamoin asked, if not i can get to it later today after konversation and amarok patches | 06:15 |
| jdong | imbrandon: yeah, I already started sifting through svn | 06:16 |
| imbrandon | ugh and sime patches, wow i got tons to do today | 06:16 |
| jdong | I'll see how competent I am :-/ | 06:16 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 06:16 |
| imbrandon | if it was like 2.0 to 2.0.1 there is only 3 or 4 commits to sift through | 06:17 |
| Riddell | hi Mez, tonio was complaining about katapult | 06:17 |
| bddebian | HI MEZ!!! | 06:17 |
| n8k99 | imbrandon: does amarok 142 re-catalog the music collection when you first start it up? | 06:17 |
| jdong | imbrandon: and btw, amarok somehow magically made it into dapper-backports | 06:18 |
| imbrandon | n8k99: its supose to ( there is an option ) but cataloging is kinda flakey on sqlite atm , thats one of the patches i got from the amarok team today | 06:18 |
| imbrandon | jdong infinity probably fixed the buildd | 06:18 |
| jdong | :) | 06:19 |
| n8k99 | imbrandon: that may explain why cpu goes to 100% and stays pegged for ifteen minutes | 06:19 |
| imbrandon | n8k99: yea give me ~1 hour and i'll have the patch on and you can "beta" test it if you feel brave | 06:19 |
| n8k99 | imbrandon: sure thing - right now, i am without amarok unless i go backwards | 06:20 |
| n8k99 | ppc | 06:20 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: extracted the changelog from svn.... I gotta say, this guy isn't too great at writing changelog entries either | 06:27 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 06:27 |
| jdong | "Merged fix from trunk" :) | 06:27 |
| Riddell | ** knot 2 candidate CDs are up for testing ** | 06:29 |
| imbrandon | woot | 06:29 |
| jjesse | woot | 06:29 |
| toma | woot | 06:29 |
| === Jucato silently says "yay!" | ||
| jjesse | link? | 06:30 |
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| exobuzz | nixternal: see my post at the end of http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247350&page=2 | 06:30 |
| Riddell | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060831/ | 06:30 |
| nixternal | fixed it already | 06:30 |
| exobuzz | nixternal: excellent :) | 06:30 |
| Riddell | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20060831.2/ | 06:30 |
| nixternal | had to replace the new libhals in /usr/lib ;) | 06:30 |
| exobuzz | nixternal: thats another way :-) | 06:31 |
| === jdong commences download | ||
| jdong | ooh, someone made *.ubuntu.com fast again :) | 06:31 |
| jdong | it's been a while since I've seen 500KB/s from canonical servers | 06:31 |
| exobuzz | my bugs are still untriaged.... humph.. | 06:31 |
| jdong | I guess you can say that the download speed is.... knot 2 bad :) | 06:33 |
| === jdong breaks promise about knot2 puns | ||
| jjesse | hmm only getting 34 k/sec :( | 06:33 |
| kwwii | digikam takes a day to open my pics the first time :-( | 06:34 |
| exobuzz | jdong: please stop ;-) | 06:34 |
| === jdong is sucking all the bandwidth away with axel :) | ||
| jdong | exobuzz: knot 2 fond of puns? | 06:34 |
| exobuzz | jdong. knot when its the same one over and over.. :-) | 06:34 |
| n8k99 | (groan) that horse carcess is knot going to get up either | 06:35 |
| === Jucato can knot understand what's going on... | ||
| exobuzz | argh | 06:35 |
| jdong | now, all we have to do is infect #ubuntu-devel with knot puns :) | 06:36 |
| jdong | and my evil plan will have succeeded | 06:36 |
| toma | did we knot have those jokes with the knot one one? | 06:36 |
| exobuzz | .... | 06:37 |
| exobuzz | please.... | 06:37 |
| exobuzz | :) | 06:37 |
| jdong | lol | 06:37 |
| nixternal | exobuzz: your way doesn't work for me...i have to replace the libhal.so.1.0.0 and the symlink for libhal.so.1 in /usr/lib | 06:37 |
| jdong | these download rates are so good, I'm just gonna pipe the iso to cdrecord again | 06:37 |
| === jdong lacks free space | ||
| exobuzz | nixternal: hmm strange | 06:37 |
| Mez | Riddell: ping | 06:38 |
| Riddell | pong | 06:38 |
| Mez | Riddell: for some reason the import I got from SVN had all the spellcatalog stuff duplicated | 06:39 |
| Mez | as in in the files - it had the same content twice | 06:40 |
| Riddell | and is that the case in SVN? | 06:40 |
| Mez | Riddell: I'd guess so - I just grabbed a patch | 06:44 |
| Mez | lemme go look | 06:44 |
| kwwii | cans someone please tell the freaky people who make photo programs to not copy all the pics into ones home? | 06:44 |
| kwwii | in fact, scream it at them very loudly | 06:45 |
| toma | kwwii: which app? | 06:45 |
| kwwii | digikam and fspot both do it | 06:45 |
| toma | kwwii: only when you choose import | 06:46 |
| seaLne | yeah digikam caught me out with that | 06:46 |
| n8k99 | digikam let's you chose where the photo database is kept | 06:46 |
| toma | kwwii: when you set the album path it will not do that | 06:46 |
| kwwii | hehe, well import is the first thing you do | 06:46 |
| kwwii | now I see that | 06:46 |
| Mez | Riddell: seems not - just a bad patch I think... but we have created a .desktop file for you in bzr | 06:50 |
| allee | toma: oh, reminds me we need to find a dynamic loading guru that tells us why libgphot-dev .la files are suddenly needed again. | 06:54 |
| allee | toma: or patch to libgphoto to move la files to runtime pkgs | 06:55 |
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| jdong | upstart appears to work | 06:58 |
| jdong | cool | 06:58 |
| toma | allee: yes | 07:02 |
| toma | allee: what was the br number? | 07:03 |
| allee | wait therer was a me too today .. | 07:03 |
| allee | toma: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125696 | 07:04 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 125696 in Camera GUI "digikam does not connect to USB camera with libgphoto-2.1.99" [Normal,New] | 07:04 |
| allee | toma: coolo didn't said pong ;) | 07:05 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ping | 07:08 |
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| viper550 | I know how we can make the silver panel nicer, with a tint of purple | 07:15 |
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| kwwii | does kubuntu use a panel bg per default? | 07:24 |
| imbrandon | kwwii: yea | 07:28 |
| imbrandon | the kde default one | 07:28 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: hi | 07:28 |
| imbrandon | heya sho / hein had a question about konvo on breezy | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | did he IM you ? | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ^ | 07:32 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: talking to him now | 07:32 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: did you ask about the point kamion raised? | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: yup | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | and he replyed on LP | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | all cleared up | 07:33 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: did you see the patches from Mark for amarok? | 07:38 |
| Riddell | Mark Kretschman that is | 07:38 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: yup working on them right this second | 07:38 |
| imbrandon | while sho sorts out konvo | 07:38 |
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| imbrandon | i have to modify the diffs a bit becouse they arent in the format patchsys likes but other than that seems a-ok | 07:39 |
| imbrandon | i'll have a debdiff in less than an hour for ya | 07:39 |
| Riddell | and just when I had copied your builds onto kubuntu.org | 07:39 |
| imbrandon | hahaha , well they are in the official backports too ;) | 07:40 |
| imbrandon | now* becouse {infinity,someone} fixed the backport buildd to accept them | 07:40 |
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| jdong | lol | 07:40 |
| jdong | :) | 07:40 |
| jdong | poor Riddell..... time that could've been spent fixing kwallet in kubuntu.org :) | 07:41 |
| seaLne | jdong: any news on updating things in backports? | 07:41 |
| jdong | hint hint hint | 07:41 |
| jdong | seaLne: not yet | 07:41 |
| jdong | :-/ | 07:41 |
| jdong | the bug ticket is silent | 07:41 |
| Riddell | backports gets processed on tuesday and friday | 07:41 |
| seaLne | its a very strange feature | 07:41 |
| jdong | seaLne: who should I prod about it? | 07:42 |
| jdong | is that an infinity thing, or someone else? | 07:42 |
| Riddell | what needs updated? | 07:42 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: yea but it was kicking back stuff that was alrady there ( if you had a newer version ) | 07:42 |
| seaLne | k3b and i think other stuff | 07:42 |
| imbrandon | like if -0ubuntu2 was in backpoorts it wouldent take -0ubuntu3 | 07:43 |
| Riddell | weird | 07:43 |
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| jdong | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/products/soyuz/+bug/58144 | 07:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 58144 in soyuz "Backport is rejected if an older backport is already there" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 07:43 |
| Riddell | right, I would say that is the soyuz admins but I dont actually know since backports was fixed by kamion | 07:44 |
| jdong | do the soyuz admins typically respond in good time to bug reports? :-/ | 07:45 |
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| imbrandon | jdong most of the time but rember eveyone is/was hurried by the knot2 | 07:47 |
| jdong | right | 07:47 |
| jdong | just checking | 07:47 |
| jdong | knot 2 worry... I'll wait :) | 07:47 |
| === seaLne hopes jdong has a sudden long and painfull death :P | ||
| jdong | seaLne: don't worry, I already have a 9 month reactive arthritis sentence | 07:49 |
| jdong | and it sucks | 07:49 |
| jdong | :) | 07:49 |
| imbrandon | heh "sudden" and "long" | 07:50 |
| seaLne | the only thing worse than spam is spammers who don't know how to use their scripts | 07:51 |
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| imbrandon | hahaha keep getting "%name blah blah blah" subjects ? | 07:51 |
| seaLne | yeah | 07:51 |
| imbrandon | gotta love it | 07:52 |
| seaLne | or more recntly: | 07:52 |
| seaLne | Hi, friend! | 07:52 |
| seaLne | Error on /// | 07:52 |
| seaLne | New line | 07:52 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 07:52 |
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| jdong | sweet, monodevelop's gui designer works in edgy :) | 07:59 |
| imbrandon | it has for a while now hasent it ? | 08:00 |
| jdong | imbrandon: the dapper monodevelop didn't work for me :-/ | 08:01 |
| jdong | I couldn't get the gui designer to appear | 08:01 |
| jdong | and monodevelop was damn impossible to backport | 08:01 |
| jdong | even after bending every rule for personal gain :) | 08:02 |
| imbrandon | the gui thing dient eve work upstream right untill after edgy | 08:02 |
| jdong | I see | 08:02 |
| imbrandon | 0.10 -something | 08:02 |
| jdong | the only thing monodevelop needs is to show a tooltip for function calls | 08:02 |
| imbrandon | and even then it still stucks as its gtk only no qt | 08:03 |
| jdong | like now, it shows a tooltip in the autocomplete box, but disappears after opening the ( | 08:03 |
| jdong | qt-gtk keeps me happy | 08:03 |
| jdong | monodevelop has brought no-brainer gui designing to linux | 08:03 |
| imbrandon | for looks not functionality ;) | 08:03 |
| jdong | :) | 08:03 |
| jdong | whatever | 08:03 |
| imbrandon | jdong you must have never tried qt-designer or kylix ;) | 08:03 |
| jdong | no, I haven't | 08:04 |
| imbrandon | kylix has been no brainer for ages | 08:04 |
| imbrandon | ahh and gambas too | 08:04 |
| jdong | but qt has never really attracted me due to lack of cross platform | 08:04 |
| jdong | until qt4 | 08:04 |
| jdong | :) | 08:04 |
| imbrandon | WHAT ! | 08:04 |
| jdong | I'm not buying a qt3/windows license :) | 08:04 |
| imbrandon | qt has always worked on windows and mac | 08:04 |
| jdong | qt3 under windows? | 08:04 |
| imbrandon | yes , the gpl version | 08:05 |
| jdong | there's a gpl'd qt3 for windows? | 08:05 |
| jdong | that doesn't need cygwin/X? | 08:05 |
| imbrandon | its the same one for linux, just compile it with gcc | 08:05 |
| imbrandon | no X needed | 08:05 |
| === jdong stands corrected | ||
| imbrandon | cygwin if you use cygwins gcc or if you use minw no | 08:05 |
| jdong | still, mono is cool :P | 08:05 |
| imbrandon | mingw32 | 08:06 |
| Riddell | qt3 needs cygwin on windows | 08:06 |
| imbrandon | cant you compile it with mingw32 now ? | 08:06 |
| imbrandon | still gambas and kylix ( vb6 and delphi ) both are no brainer linux gui tools too ;) | 08:07 |
| imbrandon | and qt-designer somewhat ;) | 08:08 |
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| seaLne | alternate 20060831.2 just installed fine for me | 08:30 |
| jjesse | live cd works great :) | 08:31 |
| seaLne | err apart from X stobing white lines at me , not good | 08:31 |
| seaLne | strobing | 08:31 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 09:04 |
| Tonio_ | is the knot freeze ended ? | 09:05 |
| Tonio_ | just for information | 09:06 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I'm knot2 sure.... :) | 09:07 |
| Lure | Tonio_: /topic in #ubuntu-devel still talks about freeze | 09:07 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay I'll wait | 09:07 |
| Tonio_ | not a problem | 09:07 |
| Tonio_ | just that I will not have a lot of free time this we and I have a few uploads to perform :) | 09:08 |
| Tonio_ | I just left paris definitly | 09:08 |
| Tonio_ | looks strange | 09:08 |
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| imbrandon | where are the knot2 test images ? i'll grab a ppc one and test it | 09:23 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: from what I understand Riddell is pretty happy with these: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060831/ | 09:33 |
| jjesse | the download is slow :( | 09:33 |
| jjesse | only 35.1 kb/sec | 09:33 |
| jdong | hmm | 09:33 |
| jdong | that's a problem on your end then | 09:34 |
| === jdong went at 550KB/s | ||
| jjesse | hmm work here has a ds3 connected to the internet non throttled | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | mines hovering about 200kb | 09:36 |
| imbrandon | well make that 100 | 09:36 |
| imbrandon | lol | 09:36 |
| derekS | jjesse: how many people share it | 09:36 |
| imbrandon | still not too bad, i'll have it in less than an hour | 09:37 |
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| Lure | mine is going at 110KB/s (on 1Mbit) | 09:45 |
| imbrandon | yea i'm getting about that on a 8Mbit | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 09:49 |
| imbrandon | oh jesus | 09:49 |
| crimsun | awesome, my 3.3 KB/s owns. | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 09:50 |
| jdong|coreduo | that's it, I'm dist-upgrading my core duo | 09:51 |
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| fdoving | imbrandon: i have the ppc iso on a site that should be abit faster than cdimage. if you want. | 10:04 |
| imbrandon | fdoving: i have it over half done now | 10:05 |
| imbrandon | no biggie ;) | 10:05 |
| === _Sime just greatly simplified / improved the gamma tab in displayconfig. | ||
| Riddell | cdimage does vary quite a lot | 10:08 |
| Riddell | _Sime: screenshot screenshot! | 10:08 |
| _Sime | Riddell: you've got the svn, just svn up and run displayconfig.py | 10:09 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: i got all the amarok patches working perfect but the mtp one, i cant get it to apply for the life of me | 10:10 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: can i shoot you a debdiff and you poke it, i'm sure its simple but its frekin killin me the last 30 minutes | 10:10 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: sure | 10:11 |
| imbrandon | k one sec | 10:11 |
| _Sime | i'm too lazy to do a screenshot | 10:11 |
| imbrandon | lol | 10:12 |
| derekS | i hate this xdmcp bug! | 10:15 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/temp/amarok.debdiff | 10:15 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/gamma.png | 10:17 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: all apply and work but the frekin mtp one | 10:17 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: it is an extra level above the others | 10:25 |
| imbrandon | huh ? | 10:25 |
| imbrandon | no its in amarok/src/..... | 10:26 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell: amarok/src/mediadevice/mtp/mtpmediadevice.cpp is the file | 10:26 |
| imbrandon | after its unpacked | 10:27 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell: also i have the "fixed" konversation ready to upload also , and its been approved , all we're waiting on now is sho to get the urls fixed on the website so its "official" , he dosent want us to upload before the website is changed | 10:30 |
| imbrandon | so in a few minutes that will be ready to go | 10:30 |
| imbrandon | s/go/upload | 10:30 |
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| jdong | hmm, where's the guidance powermanager? | 10:31 |
| jdong | I dist-upgraded and ended up with no battery applet of any kind | 10:31 |
| Riddell | jdong: in kde-guidance | 10:31 |
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| jdong | bug :) | 10:32 |
| jdong | Riddell: no battery = python exception | 10:32 |
| jdong | I got a buggy laptop here whose ACPI does not report any batteries :) | 10:32 |
| Riddell | weird | 10:32 |
| Riddell | jdong: please report a bug with a backtrace, I will look at it early next week | 10:33 |
| jdong | Riddell: will do | 10:33 |
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| imbrandon | woot ppc iso done, time to install it on the ibook | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: figure out my faulty patch heheh ? | 10:38 |
| jdong | :) | 10:38 |
| imbrandon | bbiab mt dew run | 10:38 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: hmm, no, working on it | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | okies , was just curious , bbiab | 10:39 |
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| imbrandon | oh jez i hate when i do that | 10:47 |
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| === imbrandon ejected the cdrom on the colo box ~1000 miles away | ||
| imbrandon | whoops | 10:47 |
| nixternal | lol | 10:48 |
| nixternal | eject will sometimes bring her back | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | nah iots not realy a big deal other than it probably startled the hell out of the security guard watching the room | 10:49 |
| nixternal | rofl | 10:49 |
| nixternal | i used to make the computers beep at at&t when the guards roamed | 10:49 |
| nixternal | i never did the eject one though..that would have been good..however all our stuff was caged, so he would have heard it hit the door | 10:50 |
| imbrandon | wow Riddell we have 40+ mb free on the cd ? thats great | 10:50 |
| === imbrandon wonders when pitti will approve ipodslave | ||
| fdoving | include partimage if it's not there yet. | 10:51 |
| fdoving | :) | 10:52 |
| Beineri | games ;-) | 10:52 |
| imbrandon | do we have to add that to the seed or something Riddell for it to be noticed, the wiki says something about it | 10:52 |
| imbrandon | but its not totaly clear to me | 10:52 |
| imbrandon | heya Beineri | 10:52 |
| imbrandon | hows kickstart going ? in svn yet LOL | 10:53 |
| === imbrandon ducks | ||
| === Beineri wonders what imbrandon is talking about... | ||
| imbrandon | i'm probably mixing you up with someone else | 10:55 |
| Beineri | imbrandon: it's true that you're not good with names | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | anyhow Riddell konversation 1.0 is official now , ready to upload ? hehe i got a url | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | Beineri: ;) | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | or other main sponsor arround ...... *looks* | 10:57 |
| === gnomefreak waits for link to deb :) | ||
| imbrandon | gnomefreak: for konversation 1.0 ? | 11:09 |
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| gnomefreak | yeah | 11:09 |
| exobuzz | hi | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | is it going in edgy? | 11:09 |
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| imbrandon | gnomefreak: if you have my nightly repo it will be synced in a second for dapper, and as soon as Riddell uploaded it it will be in edgy | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | gnomefreak: yes | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 11:10 |
| exobuzz | what will. (I'm nosey) ? :) | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | exobuzz: lol konvo 1.0 | 11:10 |
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| imbrandon | exobuzz: the kubuntu irc client | 11:11 |
| gnomefreak | exobuzz: konversation 1.0 irc chat client shipped with kde | 11:11 |
| exobuzz | aaah konversation | 11:11 |
| exobuzz | which would be what im using :-) | 11:11 |
| exobuzz | we like. | 11:11 |
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| kwwii_ | where does one find knot2 ppc cd's? | 11:14 |
| Lure | kwwii_: I think this will be it: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060831/ | 11:15 |
| imbrandon | hehe kwwii_ i just downloaded it , was finishing kastroids on osx before i installed ;) | 11:15 |
| exobuzz | asteroids game ? :) | 11:16 |
| imbrandon | crimsun: you still about ? | 11:16 |
| imbrandon | exobuzz: yes | 11:16 |
| imbrandon | crimsun: never mind | 11:16 |
| exobuzz | great game.. also minesweeper ont eh vectrex.. | 11:16 |
| exobuzz | vectrex is the best console ever :) | 11:17 |
| exobuzz | aaw. kasteroids isnt wireframe... thats no good :) | 11:19 |
| kwwii_ | imbrandon: thanks :-) | 11:19 |
| kwwii_ | erm, screw you | 11:19 |
| kwwii_ | Lure: thanks :-) | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | heh Lure gave ya the url LOL | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | haha | 11:19 |
| kwwii_ | :p | 11:19 |
| Lure | lol | 11:19 |
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| imbrandon | woot , when does ftp.debian.org process uploads ? isnt it once a day ? | 11:20 |
| imbrandon | vs once an hour like us ? | 11:21 |
| kwwii_ | hrm, I had problems installing dapper with the GUI installer on my test ppc...hope it works this time | 11:21 |
| imbrandon | me too , the alternate is much better for the ppc | 11:21 |
| imbrandon | maybe this will be ok | 11:21 |
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| crimsun | imbrandon: yes, once daily. | 11:22 |
| imbrandon | cool crimsun do you happen to know what time ? | 11:22 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: and uploads are processed every 5 minutes for us. | 11:22 |
| crimsun | err, well if you're going to use that terminology... | 11:22 |
| imbrandon | curious becouse my upload got accepted by the archive a few minutes agao and as soon as its on p.d.o i can sync | 11:23 |
| crimsun | to clarify, yes, dinstall runs once daily for Debian (either 2:10 PM EDT or 3:10 PM EDT, don't recall which); publisher runs at :03 and :33 for Ubuntu | 11:25 |
| imbrandon | ahh cool | 11:25 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: it's actually syncable from incoming if you're frothing at the mouth. | 11:26 |
| imbrandon | heh well i just got the email a few hours ago | 11:26 |
| imbrandon | been waiting on it ;) | 11:26 |
| crimsun | a few hours ago implies before dinstall ran. | 11:27 |
| crimsun | in which case it's syncable now. | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | Today 07:34 / 7:34 am | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | ^^ CDT | 11:27 |
| crimsun | you're referring to the ACCEPT, correct? | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | Accepted: | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | apt-mirror_0.4.4-3.diff.gz | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | to pool/main/a/apt-mirror/apt-mirror_0.4.4-3.diff.gz | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | apt-mirror_0.4.4-3.dsc | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | to pool/main/a/apt-mirror/apt-mirror_0.4.4-3.dsc | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | etc etc etc | 11:27 |
| crimsun | yes, that's syncable now. | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | sweet | 11:28 |
| imbrandon | ok cool | 11:28 |
| imbrandon | how come its not on p.d.o yet ? | 11:28 |
| crimsun | pdo's cron is slower. | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 11:30 |
| crimsun | slower meaning executed less frequently. | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | right | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | but it should bee in the pool on ftp.d.o correct ? | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | s/bee/be | 11:31 |
| === imbrandon looks | ||
| imbrandon | crimsun: can we upload yet ? from the freeze ? | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | ( main ) | 11:32 |
| crimsun | not unless knot 2 has been released. At least the topic in -devel hasn't been changed. | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | k | 11:32 |
| === imbrandon waits | ||
| imbrandon | crimsun: where is the incoming pool | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | i just see a REPORT file | 11:40 |
| imbrandon | and its not in the main pool | 11:40 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: similar structure. There's a non-public pool that the main public-facing pool rsyncs from. | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok so i cant get to it publicly atm then | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | correct ? | 11:41 |
| crimsun | aka "limbo" | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | hehe yea | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | and that rsync isnt untill tomarrow again ? | 11:42 |
| crimsun | do you mean the next dinstall? | 11:42 |
| crimsun | that's tomorrow, correct | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | umm i guess, its in the incomming report | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | but not in the main pool | 11:42 |
| crimsun | the syncing for mirrors should be complete in a few hours | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | wow debian is complicated | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | heh | 11:43 |
| crimsun | not really. | 11:44 |
| crimsun | it's similar in Ubuntu. | 11:45 |
| imbrandon | yea, i guess i'm just not used to waiting a whole day | 11:46 |
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| crimsun | spoiled dev. ;) | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 11:51 |
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