[12:09] <Sanne> Xcalibur: of course I'm not able to find the page again, so I will have to write it up for you. Can you wait a bit longer?
[12:12] <eghjaytee> hey there
[12:13] <eghjaytee> I have installed ruby from apt but it has no irb, and there is no irp package. what am I missing?
[12:16] <misieq> do i have to run some rsync daemon in order to get files with rsync from some host or what?
[12:16] <misieq> and what ports does rsync use?
[12:18] <bubu1uk> !mp3
[12:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:22] <AZ_AS> argh, can't find this theme I downloaded for KDE...and I can't seem to quite master the find function in it so don't know where to look for it
[12:23] <bubu1uk> !repositories
[12:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:23] <lotusleaf> !kcalc
[12:23] <scabootssca> ok i need help i cant get kubuntu to start like it loads and stuff like where it would usually go to the login screen it just goes to where it has the words kubuntu and the little loader bar and sits there
[12:23] <ubotu> kcalc: calculator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 184 kB, installed size 684 kB
[12:23] <lotusleaf> kcalc crashes kicker
[12:24] <bubu1uk> !easysource
[12:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:26] <Xcalibur> srry
[12:26] <Xcalibur> back now
[12:26] <Xcalibur> did he give me a link
[12:26] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:27] <Xcalibur> o
[12:27] <Xcalibur> yeah, I can wait
[12:29] <Xcalibur> yeah scabootssca, that happened to me with my really old PC
[12:29] <scabootssca> how did you fix it?
[12:29] <Xcalibur> get the alternate install CD
[12:30] <Xcalibur> it's console like
[12:30] <Xcalibur> not graphical
[12:30] <Xcalibur> hey scaboot, you using a compaq presario
[12:31] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:31] <scabootssca> no
[12:31] <scabootssca> it's custom built
[12:31] <Xcalibur> i tried it on 2 different presarios, I had the same prob, whats your BIOS?
[12:31] <scabootssca> asus mobob and the bios is by phoenix lab
[12:32] <scabootssca> it worked bbefore
[12:32] <Xcalibur> ok
[12:32] <scabootssca> it jsut stopped working
[12:32] <scabootssca> and did that before
[12:32] <scabootssca> on earlier installs
[12:32] <shannon> could someone tell me where to find a how-to on copying linux partitions?
[12:32] <inteliwasp_> how do i dissable the standby function on my laptop?
[12:32] <CVirus> shannon: on google ?
[12:32] <Xcalibur> mine had an asus bios, it was like a green ball, then, my other one had the original compaq bios
[12:33] <Xcalibur> !seen sane
[12:33] <ubotu> I haven't seen sane recently
[12:33] <shannon> I looked on google, but I couldn't find anything good....
[12:33] <CVirus> inteliwasp_: man dd
[12:33] <Xcalibur> !seen Sanne
[12:33] <ubotu> I last saw Sanne (n=Sanne@p548D813E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 7m 42s ago, quiting: "Bye"
[12:33] <mx> ffmpeg doesnt seem to like recording an sdl app =(
[12:34] <Xcalibur> omg
[12:34] <Xcalibur> does anyone kn ow how to install grub
[12:34] <mx> i wish i did
[12:35] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: you mean to tell grub to install your MBR? or do you mean to get grub on your computer?
[12:35] <inteliwasp_> CVirus:  er... wrong program, but i found what i was looking for anyway
[12:35] <pointwood> what firewall gui is recommended to use? I can see guarddog and kmyfirewall?
[12:35] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: grub-install hd0 ?
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> pointwood: firewalls are for sissies, real men walk around with their pants down! :p
[12:36] <pointwood> hehe
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> pointwood: personally I've never used a firewall utility, just iptables at the command line.
[12:37] <stray77> Xcaliber, try the super grub disk ->http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php
[12:37] <charims> hi everyone
[12:37] <charims> Charims is back!
[12:37] <pointwood> k
[12:37] <stray77> Super Grub Disk is a bootable floppy or cdrom oriented towards system rescue, and more specifically to boot and restore of boot.
[12:37] <pointwood> I'm no network expert
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> pointwood: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT && iptables -A INPUT -m state NEW,INVALID -j DROP
[12:38] <pointwood> and since this machine is currently directly connected to the net, I would gather it would be a good idea with some kind of FW :)
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> pointwood: that pretty much sums it up.
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> pointwood: man iptables - learn iptables, if you learn iptables you will be able to do wonderful things.
[12:39] <pointwood> LeeJunFan: yeah, it is a bit complex imho - I have seen it compared to pf and the syntax is much nicer IMHO
[12:39] <ravenous> firestarter is probably the most popular iptables frontend
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> pointwood: those commands I listed above will give you the same security as if you were behind a firewall router.
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> pointwood: of course if you want to open some ports you'll need more.
[12:42] <inteliwasp_> is there anythig i can do to make the audio quality better?
[12:43] <Xcalibur> on my computer i need grub!
[12:43] <ravenous> buy a better soundcard?
[12:43] <inteliwasp_> er... i'm on a budget and useing a laptop...
[12:44] <pointwood> LeeJunFan: yeah, I'm looking at guarddog ATM, looks pretty okay actaully :)
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: pay attention - scroll up about 10 mins.
[12:44] <inteliwasp_> it just that a known good sound file play badly on this distro fror some reason
[12:45] <LeeJunFan> inteliwasp_: what kind of soundfile?
[12:45] <LeeJunFan> wav?
[12:45] <inteliwasp_> mp3
[12:45] <LeeJunFan> inteliwasp_: what are you using to play it?
[12:45] <inteliwasp_> havent tries the others yet
[12:45] <inteliwasp_> xmms
[12:45] <inteliwasp_> and amark
[12:45] <LeeJunFan> inteliwasp_: personally haven't used xmms in a long time, amarok yes.
[12:46] <inteliwasp_> oh yea, kaffine plays bad too
[12:46] <pointwood> anyway, time to sleep for me - nite
[12:46] <LeeJunFan> inteliwasp_: what's it sound like? choppy?
[12:46] <reddwolf78> does anyone know how i can get the active x file that i need for the winamp player
[12:47] <inteliwasp_> er... stacticly like it was xmitted poorly or too much compression
[12:47] <inteliwasp_> but the same files on my ipod play perfect
[12:49] <CharlieZero> Yeah maybe I'm an idiot, but should it be difficult to up my resolution above 1024 x 768 on Kubuntu 6?  I've never used Linux before today.
[12:49] <LeeJunFan> inteliwasp_: open a konsole and type cat /proc/interrupts and pastebin the results, and gimme the link. Maybe an IRQ conflict?
[12:50] <mx> arg
[12:50] <mx> how do i make kde stop loading all the windows i had open last time i logged in?
[12:50] <LeeJunFan> inteliwasp_: I've had times with IRC conflicts with sound and USB on the same channel and when I keep the mouse moving sound was smooth.
[12:50] <Martijn81> CharlieZero: should be easy with kcontrol as long as the xorg.conf config file has been configured nicely
[12:51] <mx> having 10 windows pop up with quit confirmations every time i have to ctrl+alt+backspace and log back in is getting a bit old
[12:51] <dennisharrison_A> hello hello
[12:51] <LeeJunFan> mx: alt-f2 kcontrol KDE Components->Session Manager->On Login
[12:52] <mx> LeeJunFan: thanks
[12:52] <CharlieZero> Martijn81: do i check using console?
[12:52] <mx> will it remember that if i ctrl+alt+backspace again?
[12:52] <dennisharrison_A> how can I remove a package from apt-get list so I can install stuff again?
[12:52] <LeeJunFan> mx: yes.
[12:52] <dennisharrison_A> E: The package gpar2 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[12:52] <LeeJunFan> mx: as long as you hit ok/apply
[12:53] <mx> alright
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> mx: so if you have it set for open empty session it will not start a bunch of crap automatically.
[12:53] <mx> LeeJunFan: already done :p
[12:53] <CharlieZero> Martijn: Thanks - gotta go, though.
[12:55] <Martijn81> CharlieZero: you could check /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look if your monitor is recognized nicely in "Section "Monitor", or you can just look in kcontrol and see if there's a higher resolution available
[12:55] <now3d> Could someone point me at how I can switch my default Kubuntu WWW browser from Konqueror to Firefox please?
[12:55] <dennisharrison_A> xrandr -s whatever also Martijn81
[12:56] <inteliwasp_> LeeJunFan:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:56] <dennisharrison_A> E: The package gpar2 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[12:56] <inteliwasp_> LeeJunFan:  opps wrong one
[12:56] <dennisharrison_A> I get this everytime I try to do anything with apt-get
[12:56] <LeeJunFan> now3d: alt-f2 "kcontrol" kde components->default applications
[12:56] <dennisharrison_A> how should I address this?
[12:56] <inteliwasp_> LeeJunFan:  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/780197
[12:57] <mx> how do i kill kopete's urge to bother me about kwallet every time it's opened?
[12:57] <LeeJunFan> mx: configure kwallet with no password.
[12:57] <mx> >_>
[12:58] <Martijn81> mx: by configuring kopete to not save it
[12:58] <dennisharrison_A> anyone here ever run into this problem?
[12:58] <dennisharrison_A> sorry I am new to linux
[12:58] <Martijn81> mx: and using kde-pwmanager instead
[12:58] <mx> x_x
[12:58] <dennisharrison_A> just trying to install python-setuptools
[12:58] <dennisharrison_A> I get
[12:58] <dennisharrison_A> E: The package gpar2 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[12:58] <mx> i dont want a password manager lol
[12:58] <dennisharrison_A> when doing apt-get install python-setuptools
[12:58] <LeeJunFan> inteliwasp_: so much for that hunch :( Your sound is all alone on it's interrupt.
[12:59] <LeeJunFan> inteliwasp_: there are some arts config things you might try - like running it in realtime prioroty, but in order to do that you must first "sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/artswrapper" then restart arts.
[01:00] <now3d> LeeJunFan: Thanks for the tip. System Settings locked up.. going to log out and restart to see if that fixes it.
[01:00] <inteliwasp_> LeeJunFan:  arts? i'm using alsa...
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> arts talks to alsa.
[01:01] <LeeJunFan> kde apps use arts, to talk to your driver, which is alsa.
[01:01] <LeeJunFan> basically.
[01:02] <inteliwasp_> ok i did the chmod, how do i restart it?
[01:02] <LeeJunFan> dennisharrison_A: try dpkg -P gpar2
[01:03] <dennisharrison_A> says I should reinstall it because its in a very bad inconsistent state
[01:03] <dennisharrison_A> yay ;p
[01:04] <Martijn81> mx: AFAIK it's either pwmanager or kwallet if you want to save the passwd, safety first thing i guess
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> !seen kkathman
[01:07] <ubotu> I last saw kkathman (i=kkathman@12.198.165.153) 17h 41m 58s ago, quiting:
[01:12] <Martijn81> dennisharrison_A: tried sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a ?
[01:14] <dennisharrison_A> let me try
[01:16] <mx> what library has expat.h?
[01:16] <slicslak> can someone recomend some cli audio manipulation tools?
[01:16] <Martijn81> dennisharrison_A: you can also check if the package is available by the repo with apt-cache policy packagename
[01:16] <mx> nvm
[01:17] <dennisharrison_A> its no available
[01:17] <dennisharrison_A> I want to remove it
[01:17] <dennisharrison_A> somehow its in the package list
[01:17] <dennisharrison_A> I still have the deb file I used to install it
[01:18] <Martijn81> dennisharrison_A: then try removing and re-installing it i guess
[01:18] <dennisharrison_A> k brb
[01:20] <dennisharrison_A> newp
[01:20] <dennisharrison_A> dennisharrison@dh-desk:~$ sudo dpkg --configure gpar2
[01:20] <dennisharrison_A> dpkg: error processing gpar2 (--configure):
[01:20] <dennisharrison_A>  package gpar2 is not ready for configuration
[01:20] <dennisharrison_A>  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')
[01:20] <dennisharrison_A> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:20] <dennisharrison_A>  gpar2
[01:21] <Martijn81> dennisharrison_A: sudo aptitude remove gpar2 then
[01:22] <dennisharrison_A> wow .. this is a consistent bugger
[01:22] <dennisharrison_A> dpkg: error processing gpar2 (--remove):
[01:22] <dennisharrison_A>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[01:22] <dennisharrison_A>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[01:22] <dennisharrison_A> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
[01:22] <dennisharrison_A>   what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
[01:22] <dennisharrison_A> Aborted
[01:23] <Martijn81> nasty, hmm, i would try and do aptitude reinstall gpar2
[01:23] <Danish> is there a way to minimize firefox to system tray rather than exiting
[01:24] <Hawkwind> dennisharrison_A: Please use pastebin.ca from now on when pasting things and not pasting to the channel
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> dennisharrison_A, sudo aptittude purge gpar2?
[01:24] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[01:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:25] <fnTc^spNk> hello
[01:25] <dennisharrison_A> yeah I figured they were small enough
[01:25] <dennisharrison_A> sorry
[01:25] <dennisharrison_A> let me try Admiral_Chicago
[01:25] <fnTc^spNk> can i ask a question?
[01:25] <charims> Hi everyone, i have an ongoing sound problem, but it seems to be getting better, i still need help though. All of my info is here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22022               Note: the only things i can get to make sound are Gaim, and Amarok (though it freezes right after trying)
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> fnTc^spNk, ask
[01:25] <fnTc^spNk> ok
[01:26] <fnTc^spNk> i tried to install my nvidia drivers
[01:26] <dennisharrison_A> Admiral_Chicago, it gives me the same error as a dpkg purge
[01:26] <dennisharrison_A> I get errors when trying to install from the .deb
[01:26] <fnTc^spNk> but everytime i restart x, i get the error module nvidie not found
[01:26] <dennisharrison_A> telling me I need gnome desktop data
[01:26] <fnTc^spNk> nvidia*
[01:26] <dennisharrison_A> now I can't install or uninstall anything
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> dennisharrison_A, try doing a man dpkg
[01:26] <fnTc^spNk> then i need to edit the xorg.conf before i can start X again
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> or rather a dpkg -f
[01:26] <dennisharrison_A> Ademan, oh boy :( hehe all I want is to code some python ;p
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> fnTc^spNk, try editing you /etc/xorg.conf to nv
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> the driver
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> instead of nvidia.
[01:27] <fnTc^spNk> yeah i did
[01:27] <fnTc^spNk> but i have to set nvidia to get my drivers working?
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> no, nv is the open source version
[01:27] <fnTc^spNk> oh
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> it'll recongnize your card though
[01:28] <fnTc^spNk> well it doesnt say 7800GT
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> you probably have nvidia somewhere in the file
[01:28] <fnTc^spNk> it says nvidia card
[01:28] <fnTc^spNk> and i still cant play a game :(
[01:28] <fnTc^spNk> i get opengl error
[01:28] <fnTc^spNk> wich means problems with driver
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> fnTc^spNk, try "sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg"
[01:29] <fnTc^spNk> sudo: dpkg-configure: command not found
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> space the hypen
[01:29] <fnTc^spNk> ?
[01:29] <fnTc^spNk> hypen?
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry i forget the command and spacking
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> hyphen
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> -  <-- that thing
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> fnTc^spNk, try "sudo dpkg -configure xserver-xorg"
[01:30] <fnTc^spNk> oh ok
[01:30] <fnTc^spNk> unknown option "o" ? :\
[01:30] <fnTc^spNk> -o*
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on i forget the commandh
[01:32] <inteliwasp> how can i move filefolders as a superuser in the gui?
[01:32] <fnTc^spNk> well i wont run away :)
[01:32] <ubuntu> hi
[01:33] <now3d> you are lucky to get that nick
[01:33] <fnTc^spNk> :p
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:34] <now3d> Could someone tell me if it is possible to get Thunderbird to launch firefox instead of Konqueror please?  Also if it is posible for Firefox email links to launch thunderbird compose window please?
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> now3d, check the default browser
[01:34] <charims> Hi everyone, i have an ongoing sound problem, but it seems to be getting better, i still need help though. All of my info is here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22022               Note: the only things i can get to make sound are Gaim, and Amarok (though it freezes right after trying) I have post on both the Kubuntu and Ubuntu forums, i have been dealing with this problem uopwards of a week.
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> system settings
[01:34] <now3d> Admiral_Chicago: Yep, I have firefox as the default browser
[01:35] <Admiral_Chicago> now3d, that's the only thing i can think of
[01:36] <now3d> Admiral_Chicago: Also i set thunderbird as the default email app there i think
[01:36] <now3d> Admiral_Chicago: its all crashing now.. hope my hd isnt knacked.. i just reinstalled after the last one failed..
[01:36] <Admiral_Chicago> charims, i think you snd- is wrong
[01:36] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set the DISPLAY parameter from terminal?
[01:36] <AZ_AS> argh....every time I try to open up a local theme for SuperKaramba, I get something about "the specified folder does not exist or was not readable"
[01:36] <Admiral_Chicago> now3d, that doesn't seem like it's related to your email issue
[01:36] <MetaMorfoziS> if i want to start an application frtom tty but on 0:0
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm
[01:37] <charims> Admiral_chicago :really, for an Nvidia CK8, i'm using snd-Intel8x0 which i belive is correct...
[01:37] <AZ_AS> maybe I'm not cut out for Kubuntu
[01:37] <AZ_AS> or linux in general
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> AZ_AS, maybe you should roll back the SK version
[01:37] <dennisharrison_A> ok
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> and try that
[01:37] <dennisharrison_A> dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq asks me to supply an action item
[01:37] <AZ_AS> I don't know how to do that
[01:38] <now3d> I get an X error when on TTY when i run applications from there, do you guys see that too? firefox, xchat.. evertything..
[01:38] <AZ_AS> running Kubuntu in a virtual machine if that makes any difference
[01:38] <now3d> "Failed to open device, X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"  etc etc
[01:38] <fnTc^spNk> ImPS/2 of explorerPS/2 what is the difference?
[01:38] <now3d>  Major opcode:  144, Minor opcode:  3
[01:38] <Admiral_Chicago> now3d, because you aren't supposed to launch them like that
[01:39] <now3d> Admiral_Chicago: hmm, its never been a problem before... why is it any different from the Run command?
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> charims, sorry i thought there was an nvidia snd
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> now3d, there isn't
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> thats why there is one in the K menu
[01:39] <pascalFR> MetaMorfoziS: export DISPLAY=0:0
[01:40] <charims> Admiral_chicago: Its fine, thankyou
[01:40] <Admiral_Chicago> basically if you need to launch something, use the run command
[01:40] <MetaMorfoziS> thanx
[01:40] <Admiral_Chicago> but for terminal stuff, it can mess up the program iiirr
[01:40] <AZ_AS> how do I roll back the SK version?
[01:40] <Admiral_Chicago> uh hold on
[01:41] <archangel_> good evening foks
[01:41] <now3d> Admiral_Chicago: do you know why it started showing up in latest kubuntu?
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> type man dpkg in the console
[01:41] <AZ_AS> I used Adept to install SK
[01:41] <dennisharrison_A> pl
[01:41] <dennisharrison_A> I mean ok
[01:42] <dennisharrison_A> man dpkg gives me some information
[01:42] <dennisharrison_A> it tells me to use dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq
[01:42] <archangel_> anybody really good here at fixing display res when everyting is "working correctly"?
[01:42] <dennisharrison_A> but that tells me it needs an action
[01:42] <archangel_> nobody has been able to fix it
[01:43] <archangel_> thinking I might have to reinstall
[01:43] <dennisharrison_A> xrandr -s 1280x1024 or similar archangel_  ?
[01:43] <geecko> hi i'm having trouble editting my kmenu, when i save my changes, they don't stick
[01:43] <Admiral_Chicago> AZ_AS, do an dpkg-configure superkaramba
[01:43] <now3d> Admiral_Chicago: ok, i found out why, for some reason they added a /dev/wacom InputDevice
[01:43] <archangel_> actually 1440x900 dennisharrison_A
[01:43] <Admiral_Chicago> thats odd
[01:43] <archangel_> (widescreen)
[01:43] <dennisharrison_A> ok and it doesn't work archangel_ ?
[01:44] <archangel_> no man, and I'm stuck
[01:44] <archangel_> no clue why
[01:44] <dennisharrison_A> what x server and what driver?
[01:44] <dennisharrison_A> and what monitor? ;p
[01:45] <archangel_> kde, nvidia, ViewSonic VA1912wb    19"
[01:45] <archangel_> I'll tell you what happend
[01:45] <geecko> does anyone know where kmenu files are stored? i'm guessing it might be a file rights issue
[01:46] <kutan> Can someone help me with a precarious subject?
[01:46] <AZ_AS> ack, too late...reverted to a snapshot in VMWare
[01:46] <archangel_> my mom pushed power thinking the pc was off
[01:46] <MetaMorfoziS> please ehlp me! i have this:
[01:46] <archangel_> when the pc rebooted.........640x480 and no other option
[01:47] <charims> haha, archangel_ you have been dealing with that problem for i while, huh, i remeber you from another day...
[01:47] <[matrix] > hello
[01:47] <[matrix] > all
[01:47] <[matrix] > kubuntu people
[01:47] <archangel_> dude no one can fix it charims
[01:47] <archangel_> lol it sucks
[01:47] <archangel_> I have the biggest icons on the planet
[01:48] <charims> yeah, same here with ym sound
[01:48] <archangel_> need a sound card?
[01:48] <[matrix] > hey guys
[01:48] <MetaMorfoziS> i have this, please help me
[01:48] <MetaMorfoziS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22101
[01:48] <[matrix] > can i ask somthig
[01:48] <geecko> archangel_: you've tried doing dpkg --reconfigure xorg-server?
[01:48] <charims> Archangel_ everyone overat the ubuntu channel got all hyped up becuase i asked my question a second time after about 10 minutes... haha then they said go here, where noone seems to be able to help me either.
[01:48] <[matrix] > can u tell me a good firewall
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> you just did. :P
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> care to ask somthing else? :P
[01:49] <archangel_> yes geecko
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> Linux has its own firewalling features built in.
[01:49] <[matrix] > no another one
[01:49] <geecko> that's all i got :\
[01:49] <dennisharrison_A> iptable
[01:49] <[matrix] > i used guardog
[01:49] <dennisharrison_A> or you can use .. uhmm
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> you mean an alternative firewall to the one built in?
[01:49] <dennisharrison_A> firesomething
[01:49] <archangel_> thanks dude  geecko
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> Guarddog is JUST a front end to the iptables/linux firewall
[01:49] <dennisharrison_A> firestarter right?
[01:49] <[matrix] > yup Dr_Willis
[01:49] <AZ_AS> anyone ever feel so frustrated when they were starting out with Kubuntu that they wanted to beat up their computer?
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> as is firestarter
[01:49] <archangel_> what do you think? dennisharrison_A
[01:49] <mx> is there a way to make progs like konversation and kopete automatically use the colors specified by kde?
[01:50] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[01:50] <fnTc^spNk> Admiral_Chicago: it still doesnt work
[01:50] <[matrix] > firestarter?
[01:50] <[matrix] > it's ok
[01:50] <fnTc^spNk> nvidia kernel not found or something
[01:50] <charims> Finally, someone in Ubuntu gave me something to do...
[01:50] <charims> even if it probably won't work
[01:50] <archangel_> lol
[01:50] <poseidon> How can I scan something using SANE?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> http://www.seifried.org/security/index.php/Linux_Firewalling_Overview
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> firestarter and guarddog are front ends that just make the proper iptables rules
[01:51] <archangel_> Gwenview used my scanner with NO setup, it just worked
[01:52] <dennisharrison_A> archangel_, all I can tell you is that its the xserver settings
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> ipkungfu I would prefer to firestarted or guarddog
[01:52] <dennisharrison_A> I doubt its in the driver
[01:52] <dennisharrison_A> but if you have had the problem for a few days I am going to guess you tried to configure xserver-xorg
[01:52] <archangel_> how would it screwup by a hard reset?
[01:52] <[matrix] > sory can we talk here about p2p prog  so i can say why i need a firewall
[01:53] <dennisharrison_A> and you have tried reverting to vesa drivers to see if you can get your resolution back
[01:53] <archangel_> hey, no I didnt do that
[01:53] <[matrix] > so? can i?
[01:54] <fnTc^spNk> Admiral_Chicago: u still there? :C
[01:55] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22101
[02:00] <archangel_> hey how do I select vesa driver over my nvidia driver?
[02:00] <archangel_> it would let me do it in systen settings
[02:00] <archangel_> I mean wouldnt let me
[02:00] <satempler> how do I enable Zeroconfig
[02:01] <satempler> i have avahi-daemon installed
[02:01] <satempler> and most other things involving avahi
[02:03] <Phantom784> hi.  i'm trying to transfer an entire folder in KFTP, but it won't move.  it says it transfered successfully instantlly, but nothing happens
[02:04] <now3d> Hi, is anyone using thunderbird and manged to get it to take mailto links from firefox?
[02:04] <archangel_> nope
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> now3d: edit prefs.js
[02:04] <archangel_> it goes to konquror
[02:05] <now3d> h3sp4wn: think you're going to have to give me more clues than that. I alredy edited my prefs.js ther isnt anyting about mailto there
[02:06] <archangel_>  hey how do I select vesa driver over my nvidia driver?
[02:07] <now3d> archanglel_: change "nv" to "vesa" in xorg.conf
[02:07] <host-one> hi guys
[02:07] <now3d> hullo!
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:07] <dennisharrison_A> http://pastebin.com/780242
[02:07] <charims> hullo!
[02:07] <dennisharrison_A> can someone take a look at that
[02:08] <dennisharrison_A> I tried to go to #debian with it but they referred me here
[02:08] <archangel_> what is the command?
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> now3d: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "/opt/firefox/firefox"); (whilst thunderbird is closed or it will overwrite it)
[02:08] <host-one> do you have a repository list for (k)ubuntu? please help me
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> now3d: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.https", "/opt/firefox/firefox"); (also if you need it)
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> now3d: adjust the paths to suit
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> dennisharrison_A,  perhaps summerize the problem?
[02:08] <dennisharrison_A> ok
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
[02:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:09] <host-one> thx
[02:09] <dennisharrison_A> whenever I use apt-get to install or remove anything I get stopped at E: The package gpar2 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[02:09] <dennisharrison_A> and dpkg - P gpar2 gives me
[02:10] <now3d> h3sp4wn: echelente! thanks
[02:10] <dennisharrison_A> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[02:11] <dennisharrison_A> and the pastebin link I just posted shows what happens when I run dpkg -f install
[02:11] <dennisharrison_A> and what happens when I try to reinstall gpar2 using the .deb
[02:11] <dennisharrison_A> so
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> !info gpar2
[02:11] <ubotu> Package gpar2 does not exist in any distro I know
[02:12] <dennisharrison_A> its not in the repositories
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. where did gpar2 even come from? :P
[02:12] <dennisharrison_A> I just want to nuke it
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> you should be able to remove it. with --force perhaps
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[02:12] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:12] <dennisharrison_A> its a utility to combine par files with missing chunks of archives
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> that url has a link to the main apt-get book.
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> that details some cases what todo when things break like that.  Ive rarely had to --force things
[02:13] <dennisharrison_A> oh and when I try dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq
[02:13] <dennisharrison_A> I get dpkg: need an action option
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> the #ubuntu guys can proberly help ya better. my apt-get fuu is not that good.
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> thats saying your command line is wrong. :P
[02:13] <dennisharrison_A> haha I know
[02:14] <dennisharrison_A> but its what man dpkg tells me
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> dpkg --force-remove remove or somthing.
[02:14] <dennisharrison_A> lemme try
[02:14] <h3sp4wn> dennisharrison_A: dpkg -force-remove-reinstreq
[02:15] <fnTc^spNk> so uhm, anyone knows anything else? (installing nvidia drivers :r)
[02:15] <dennisharrison_A> thanks h3sp4wn
[02:15] <dennisharrison_A> now I get dpkg: unknown option -o
[02:15] <dennisharrison_A> hehe, this is the best ever
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> dennisharrison_A: dpkg dpkg -r remove-reinstreq
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> (I have to work it out everytime I need to use it which is pretty infrequently)
[02:17] <dennisharrison_A> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove remove-reinstreq which isn't installed
[02:17] <dennisharrison_A> hehe I think you have me pretty darn close my man ;p
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq
[02:19] <dennisharrison_A> ok ...
[02:19] <dennisharrison_A> maybe that was it
[02:19] <dennisharrison_A> lets see
[02:19] <h3sp4wn> (I just actually tested it and that worked for me)
[02:20] <dennisharrison_A> god ...
[02:20] <dennisharrison_A> nope
[02:20] <dennisharrison_A> gave me an error with gpar2
[02:20] <dennisharrison_A> still the same thing
[02:20] <dennisharrison_A> subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[02:21] <h3sp4wn> /var/lib/dpkg/info/gpar2.postrm (have a look at that attempt to see what it is trying to do - if that doesn't work then just make sure it exit 0; s)
[02:23] <dennisharrison_A> nothing there
[02:23] <dennisharrison_A> blank file
[02:23] <dennisharrison_A> nm
[02:23] <dennisharrison_A> forgot info
[02:23] <h3sp4wn> (that may not be the exact name of it)
[02:23] <dennisharrison_A> there is no ; at the end of exit 0
[02:24] <h3sp4wn> But does the file exist ?
[02:24] <dennisharrison_A> yep
[02:24] <dennisharrison_A> this is the command the system freaks out over
[02:24] <dennisharrison_A> update-desktop-database
[02:24] <dennisharrison_A> thats line 25 in the file
[02:24] <h3sp4wn> It shouldn't have the ; I am getting confused
[02:25] <dennisharrison_A> ok
[02:25] <dennisharrison_A> well thats cool because its not getting past line 25
[02:25] <dennisharrison_A> /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 25: update-desktop-database: command not found
[02:26] <charims> Anyone here who is familiar with aadebug and can take a look at my outputs? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22104 at the bottom
[02:26] <now3d> h3sp4wn: thanks for those thunderbird http/s handers, is tehre a way I can get firefox to pass on mailto links to thunderbird too?
[02:26] <charims> !aaedebug
[02:26] <charims> oops
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aaedebug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <h3sp4wn> dennisharrison_A: install desktop-file-utils (if you can)
[02:27] <charims> !aadebug
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aadebug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <dennisharrison_A> hehe I can't
[02:27] <dennisharrison_A> I get an error about gpar2 ;p
[02:27] <dennisharrison_A> lol
[02:28] <dennisharrison_A> this is what I get for trying to download from newsgroups
[02:28] <dennisharrison_A> I get owned by my own stupidity
[02:28] <h3sp4wn> dennisharrison_A: totally fudge it then hash out everything in the file except exit 0 (then try again)
[02:28] <dennisharrison_A> sure thing man ;p
[02:28] <dennisharrison_A> sounds good!
[02:28] <dennisharrison_A> one sec
[02:28] <Raliuga> hi?
[02:29] <dennisharrison_A> hey in vim isn't there a way to add a hash to every line?
[02:29] <Raliuga> i cant install Kubuntu =/
[02:30] <Marikita> when the installer completes it show 2 squares, something like this:
[02:30] <Marikita> http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2820/curadrosgayer4.jpg
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> now3d: I have never done that
[02:31] <now3d> Marikta: looks liek corpption
[02:31] <now3d> h3sp4wn: ok, thanks
[02:31] <dennisharrison_A> haha!
[02:32] <dennisharrison_A> h3sp4wn, you are the shi....
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> dennisharrison_A: did the fudge work ?
[02:32] <Marikita> mmm thanks....
[02:32] <dennisharrison_A> now I can just remove those files manually
[02:32] <aliasfred> is there a linux tool to uncompress bin format ?
[02:32] <dennisharrison_A> rock on man thanks
[02:33] <now3d> h3sp4wn: btw, firefox doesnt popup when i click the http:// links.. it just appears as a tab behind thunderbird
[02:33] <now3d> h3sp4wn: is there a way to get it to bring the window to the fore?
[02:33] <dennisharrison_A> woot
[02:34] <dennisharrison_A> h3sp4wn, you really fixed my whole night man
[02:34] <charims> Anyone here who is familiar with aadebug and can take a look at my outputs? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22104 at the bottom
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> dennisharrison_A: np (and with that I am going to sleep - been awake for too long)
[02:34] <dennisharrison_A> hehe rest up then bro ;p
[02:34] <dennisharrison_A> stop by #plone sometime
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> now3d: Select new tabs opened by links (try setting that in firefox)
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> dennisharrison_A: what is #plone ?
[02:35] <dennisharrison_A> http://www.plone.org
[02:35] <dennisharrison_A> based on http://www.zope.org
[02:35] <dennisharrison_A> similar to drupal
[02:35] <dennisharrison_A> but better in my opinion
[02:35] <kbrooks> plone is written in python
[02:36] <fnTc^spNk> nvidia X driver not found
[02:36] <dennisharrison_A> you can write python apps for the web using argoUML
[02:36] <fnTc^spNk> liek wtf
[02:36] <h3sp4wn> yuck python
[02:36] <dennisharrison_A> yeah plone is written in python
[02:36] <dennisharrison_A> yuck?
[02:36] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn, .....
[02:36] <dennisharrison_A> hehe
[02:36] <h3sp4wn> perl is much less typing :D
[02:36] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn, no ad hominem attacks please
[02:36] <dennisharrison_A> oh but perl hurts my face
[02:36] <dennisharrison_A> man try out plone
[02:37] <dennisharrison_A> you will like it I bet if you like perl being easier then python ;p
[02:37] <crimsun> charims: I need amixer output, too.
[02:37] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn, you're not being civil.
[02:37] <dennisharrison_A> kbrooks, wtf are you talking about?
[02:38] <[matrix] > this channel is not moderated?
[02:38] <[matrix] > no op here?
[02:38] <dennisharrison_A> haha
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> [matrix] ,  they are here.
[02:38] <dennisharrison_A> they are like submarines
[02:38] <[matrix] > where
[02:38] <crimsun> there --->
[02:38] <dennisharrison_A> rising to the surface when you least expect it ;p
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> does it matter?
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:38] <[matrix] > lol
[02:39] <[matrix] > no prob just asking
[02:39] <[matrix] > :)
[02:39] <dennisharrison_A> pretty sure you can use chanserv here for stuff like that?
[02:39] <dennisharrison_A> sorry im used to efnet ;p
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> efnet = botwar net.
[02:39] <[matrix] > dr-willis you are one of them?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> dalnet = xxx spam bot net. :P
[02:39] <charims> crimsun: how do i get amixer output?
[02:39] <Felix_> hi
[02:39] <crimsun> charims: ``amixer''. Pastebin it.
[02:39] <Marikita> someone can help me?
[02:40] <Felix_> if i want an info text if i come in a channel and go out where can I kofigurate that ?
[02:40] <flaccid> i need to install cisco vpn client. just compile from source? or can i use apt-get with a source?
[02:40] <Felix_> I've got Konversation!
[02:41] <nomad411> hey all!   Is anyone using Kubuntu on a macbook?  I'm sucrious to know how much more performing it is that way..
[02:41] <[matrix] > i don't know why but when a try to connect to hotmail site my broswer tells me that is not autenticated this site whats that'
[02:41] <saltro> please give me chat kubuntu.es
[02:41] <[matrix] > ''
[02:41] <nomad411> sucrious = curious   hehe
[02:41] <dennisharrison_A> !es
[02:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:41] <[matrix] > ?
[02:41] <saltro> thanks men
[02:41] <dennisharrison_A> np
[02:41] <[matrix] > Dr_Willis:  do you know whats that?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> try the firefox or opera browser yet?
[02:42] <[matrix] > i don't know why but when a try to connect to hotmail site my broswer tells me that is not autenticated site whats that?
[02:42] <[matrix] > yupo
[02:42] <[matrix] > i use firefox
[02:42] <now3d> h3sp4wn:  this did the trick from firefox:   user_pref("network.protocol-handler.external.mailto", "true"); user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto", "/usr/bin/mozilla-thunderbird");
[02:43] <charims> crimsun: Amixer output posted here at the end. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22105
[02:43] <Felix_> if i want an info text if i come in a channel and go out where can I kofigurate that ?
[02:43] <Felix_> :)
[02:43] <[matrix] > so why hotmail  com
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> [matrix] ,  it works fine for me.  You could clarify the error and check google for others with similer problem.
[02:43] <[matrix] > is not autenticated
[02:44] <[matrix] > i had to entry in hotmail it
[02:44] <[matrix] > maybe any body wants to bring my IP in this hack sites to take any password from me'
[02:44] <[matrix] > or no?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> [matrix] ,  you realize that -  you are making very little sence.
[02:45] <[matrix] > no is not no sence
[02:45] <dennisharrison_A> matrix whats your language?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> dennisharrison_A,  :P
[02:45] <[matrix] > language?
[02:46] <dennisharrison_A> Dr_Willis, well its a good question
[02:46] <[matrix] > i'm albanian and living in italy
[02:46] <dennisharrison_A> !il
[02:46] <ubotu>          
[02:46] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> dennisharrison_A,  yes i agree.
[02:46] <dennisharrison_A> oops
[02:46] <dennisharrison_A> !it
[02:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:46] <angasule> !bug
[02:46] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <[matrix] > ah thnx
[02:47] <[matrix] > may be i have a bug
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> wow -  i get junk mail with a subject of -->  R0LX-RPLICS
[02:47] <[matrix] > lol
[02:47] <dennisharrison_A> man .. I wanna GET me some of them ;p
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> fancy use of the extended characters... to get by the spam filters
[02:47] <[matrix] > !al
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about al - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <[matrix] > lol
[02:47] <[matrix] > no albanian
[02:47] <[matrix] > :D
[02:47] <now3d> nite guys
[02:48] <dennisharrison_A> gnight
[02:48] <crimsun> charims: sec, busy atm, will look in a sec
[02:48] <[matrix] > gn
[02:48] <dennisharrison_A> Dr_Willis, what filter are you using?
[02:48] <charims> crimsun: kk, ty
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> dennisharrison_A,  the hot mail defaults. :P
[02:49] <dennisharrison_A> oh
[02:49] <dennisharrison_A> hotmail huh?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> dennisharrison_A,  i just check hotmail about once a month and see how many spams i get.. and how many get through
[02:49] <dennisharrison_A> no gmail?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> got that also.
[02:49] <dennisharrison_A> hehe ok
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> and Linuxmail.org
[02:49] <dennisharrison_A> gotcha
[02:49] <dennisharrison_A> I don't remember my hotmail account info
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> and Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz.com mail.
[02:49] <dennisharrison_A> I am sure its deleted by now though
[02:49] <[matrix] > i hate hotmail
[02:49] <dennisharrison_A> sweet
[02:49] <[matrix] > really
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> [matrix] ,  then stop using it. thers plenty of other free alternatives out
[02:50] <dennisharrison_A> I used to own a-z 2 or 3 times then up to l again .com
[02:50] <[matrix] > no just couse i use my msn
[02:50] <dennisharrison_A> whatever the max was
[02:50] <[matrix] > with all friends of mine
[02:51] <flaccid> !samba
[02:51] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:52] <[matrix] > swat?
[02:52] <fnTc^spNk> !nvidia
[02:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:53] <fnTc^spNk> :\
[02:53] <[matrix] > sicure web autentication technology'
[02:53] <[matrix] > or no?
[02:53] <crimsun> charims: does it freeze with:  watch -n30 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav'  ?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> http://www.abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com/
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Thats the free web email service to use! :P
[02:56] <charims> sorry, crimsun, i'm bak, lemme see
[02:57] <charims> crimsun: the terminal didn't freeze, and it played a sound, sounded like a heartbeat, then stopped, had to use ctrl-c to exit
[02:58] <crimsun> charims: you're supposed to let it run continually. It'll attempt to play the same file every 30s
[03:05] <fnTc^spNk> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[03:05] <fnTc^spNk> anyone can tell me what i can do about that? :\
[03:08] <flaccid> why is printer system using cupsys as username?
[03:09] <Ash-Fox> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kde-hal-device-manager/ <- Fantastic :D
[03:09] <aaron_> Anyone know how to connect Ubuntu via ethernet to a Minolta Magicolor printer?
[03:10] <Ash-Fox> aaron_, tried cups?
[03:11] <charims> sorry, crimsun, i'm bak, will run it...
[03:11] <aaron_> yea, no joy.  though not totally clear on how to specify the ip address
[03:11] <aaron_> what format are you supposed to use?
[03:11] <aaron_> I have no problem getting it to work in XP.  no idea what protocol it's using
[03:12] <charims> Crimsun: played the first time but not again afte that, again, sounded like a heartbeat, not sure if that is what its supposed to sound like.
[03:12] <charims> Crimsun: It is still running, but no sound
[03:12] <crimsun> charims: I don't think it's supposed to sound like that, no
[03:13] <aaron_> what is a "URI"?
[03:13] <flaccid> Uniform Resource Identifier
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, I thought it was Indicater, but ah well. :)
[03:14] <charims> Crimsun: Yeah, there is no more sound from it
[03:14] <aaron_> how do I enter a dotted quad in "URI" format?  just x.x.x.x or does it need to be preceeded by something?
[03:15] <Ash-Fox> aaron_, so, no luck at all with kdeprint?
[03:15] <crimsun> charims: please try: sudo modprobe -r snd-intel8x0 && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 buggy_semaphore=1
[03:15] <Ash-Fox> (which is a slightly easier frontend to cups's webbased interface)
[03:16] <Ash-Fox> ( http://127.0.0.1:631/ if you want to use cups's webbased interface)
[03:16] <flaccid> aaron_: which protocol?
[03:16] <[matrix] > how can i use an ed2k link with mozilla firefox
[03:16] <charims> Crimsun: Error:    FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use.
[03:16] <[matrix] > it says is not a registered protocol
[03:17] <[matrix] > ??
[03:17] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , I suppose you could get/write a extention for firefox that uses the ed2k protocol
[03:17] <charims> Crimsun: may i establish a DCC with you?
[03:17] <[matrix] > ah ok
[03:17] <crimsun> charims: then stop whatever processes are using the sound device:  kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*)
[03:17] <[matrix] > at extentions
[03:17] <[matrix] > ?
[03:17] <crimsun> charims: my client ignores them
[03:18] <charims> crimsun: ok
[03:18] <charims> crimsun: both commands completed, my speakers cliked
[03:18] <[matrix] > Ash-Fox:  no  there is nothing
[03:18] <crimsun> charims: now repeat the watch -n30 ..  command
[03:19] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , guess you'll have to write one.
[03:19] <Ash-Fox> Or get someone else to make one.
[03:19] <charims> crimsun: Error on watch command, ver long, posting on paste.ubuntu
[03:19] <[matrix] > lol
[03:19] <[matrix] > ahahhaha
[03:19] <[matrix] > i can't
[03:19] <[matrix] > do it by myself
[03:19] <[matrix] > can you?
[03:20] <Ash-Fox> Not for free for something I have no interests in. Which would probably take mat least a month to get such a thing usable.
[03:20] <[matrix] > i can pay u
[03:21] <charims> crimsun: error on watch posted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22107
[03:21] <[matrix] > i really need this
[03:22] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , you're better off using craig's list, with someone who actually has a interest in emule stuff :P
[03:22] <crimsun> charims: lsmod |grep ^snd_intel8x0
[03:22] <[matrix] > craig's=? list
[03:22] <[matrix] > whats that
[03:22] <charims> Crimsun: Output of lsmod= snd_intel8x0           34076  0
[03:23] <charims> Crimsun: grabbing a cookie
[03:23] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , http://www.google.com/search?q=craig%27s+list
[03:24] <[matrix] > Ash-Fox:  u use emule?
[03:24] <charims> Crimsun: got a cookie, want one?
[03:24] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , no.
[03:24] <[matrix] > no p2p for u
[03:25] <Ash-Fox> I use bittorent, and have yet to use it for any illegal puposes.
[03:25] <[matrix] > i can download files with 1570 kbps
[03:26] <[matrix] > i have a 10mb connection
[03:26] <crimsun> charims: unload it again, reinsert it with the parameter above, and pastebin /proc/asound/cards content and dmesg
[03:26] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , okay?
[03:27] <[matrix] > u are you happy with bittorent?
[03:27] <charims> crimsun: what parameter above? did i miss someting
[03:27] <Ash-Fox> Very.
[03:28] <InuDuelist> "Our current schedule for releasing the final version of Flash Player 9 for Linux is early 2007. Many readers have understandably requested a beta version before that time. It is coming..."
[03:28] <InuDuelist> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/08/basic_beta_briefing.html
[03:28] <charims> crimsun:sorry that I'm sucha noob
[03:28] <fnTc^spNk> module nvidia_legacy not found, can anyone tell me what this means? :c
[03:28] <crimsun> sudo modprobe -r snd-intel8x0 && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 buggy_semaphore=1
[03:28] <fnTc^spNk> or how to install them
[03:29] <charims> crimsun: ran it, test now?
[03:29] <[matrix] > ash how much time do you need to download a 700 MB file?
[03:29] <benjaminjfiyfgif> hello nick
[03:30] <NickGarvey> benjaminjfiyfgif: "/nick benjamin_"
[03:30] <NickGarvey> benjaminjfiyfgif: type that without the "
[03:30] <stray77> matrix, as what speed?
[03:30] <stray77> *at
[03:30] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , on my main connection, 15 minutes, on my secondary, probably five hours.
[03:30] <[matrix] > with Ash-Fox  connection
[03:30] <[matrix] > main? what is it?
[03:31] <charims> crimsun: tried testing, another long error, pasting on paste.ubutnu-nl.org
[03:31] <crimsun> charims: yes
[03:31] <stray77> at 450kbps 700mb takes around 30 min
[03:31] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , I have two ways of accessing the internet. A main one,  and a backup incase the main one goes out which I call a secondary connecction (which I'm using right now, because I'm waiting for the ISP to upgrade the main line)
[03:32] <[matrix] > with mine i can download in 5 minutes
[03:32] <[matrix] > what connection is it<'
[03:32] <charims> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22108
[03:32] <Ash-Fox> ADSL, I'm upgrading to HDSL though.
[03:33] <[matrix] > i have optical fiber
[03:33] <KaiHanari> stray77, lies, perhaps at 450kb/s but not 450kbps
[03:33] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , uh, what?
[03:33] <[matrix] > optical fiber or fibre
[03:34] <[matrix] > is an connection of high speed
[03:34] <[matrix] > is a light connection
[03:34] <benjamin_> Hello, I am new to linux and I have a question.  I am running kubuntu and I would like to know how to set the transparency on my taskbar
[03:34] <[matrix] > Very fine, optically-pure glass fibre through which light can be reflected to transmit images or data from one end to the other.
[03:35] <crimsun> charims: dmesg?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> benjamin_,  right click on it    and look under 'configure'
[03:35] <[matrix] > never heard about it'
[03:35] <[matrix] > hello Dr_Willis
[03:35] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , I know what optical fiber is, but that isn't really the only technology you're using to get online.
[03:36] <[matrix] > no it is only my conection
[03:36] <benjamin_> Thanks Willis
[03:36] <charims> crimsun: ran dmesg, extremeley long, hopefully none is cut off of the top... not sure if the termainl would do that
[03:37] <[matrix] > to get online you need a computer  and to put the optical fiber into the computer
[03:37] <[matrix] > :D
[03:37] <charims> crimsun: results of dmesg posted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22109
[03:37] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , I mean for one, are you using ATM for communiating over fiber? is there pppoa/pppoe involved? What devices are being used to convert light to electric impluses etc
[03:37] <[matrix] > it is a big lan
[03:37] <[matrix] > named
[03:37] <[matrix] > fastweb italia
[03:38] <[matrix] > i really don't know what they use for
[03:38] <[matrix] > i just have the internet connection just paying this company
[03:39] <crimsun> holy crap
[03:39] <[matrix] > not really paying
[03:39] <Hobbsee> [matrix] : nice...where do you live?
[03:39] <[matrix] > i use a wirreles connection
[03:39] <Jucato> Hobbsee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:39] <[matrix] > :D
[03:39] <Hobbsee> hi Jucato
[03:39] <[matrix] > italy
[03:39] <Ash-Fox> wireless is not fiber.
[03:39] <[matrix] > yup
[03:39] <[matrix] > but if
[03:39] <[matrix] > you take it
[03:39] <[matrix] > from a fiber
[03:39] <charims> crimsun:brb
[03:39] <crimsun> [17179830.636000]  Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page (in process 'amarokapp', page c1347620)
[03:39] <[matrix] > :D
[03:39] <[matrix] > it is
[03:39] <crimsun> ...
[03:39] <crimsun> [17179830.636000]  Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed
[03:40] <crimsun> that doesn't look good at all, charims. That looks like memory corruption.
[03:40] <charims> crimsun: back, yeah, thats not good, but what is memory corruption cuased by?
[03:41] <charims> crimsun: don't think its hardware, no problems in windows
[03:41] <crimsun> charims: difficult to say right off. I'd start by rebooting from a live cd and running the memory test.
[03:41] <charims> crimsun: have the livecd on hand, how long will that take approx.?
[03:41] <crimsun> charims: depends how much RAM you have
[03:42] <charims> crimsun 512 mb
[03:42] <crimsun> 30 mins to an hour
[03:43] <RaydenUni> hello
[03:43] <charims> crimsun: going to my laptop, will stay in touch during test, over and out
[03:43] <RaydenUni> can anyone here help me setup imwheel for kubuntu?
[03:43] <crimsun> charims: I'm away for ~90mins
[03:43] <charims> crimsun: kk
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> RaydenUni,  why do you need imwheel?
[03:44] <RaydenUni> back button on my mouse does not work
[03:44] <RaydenUni> and i just updated to dapper drake and it wanted to overwrite the imwheel config file and i told it not to because i thought i needed those settings
[03:44] <RaydenUni> but it didn't work so now i'm trying to find the original settings
[03:45] <RaydenUni> i guess i do'nt need imwheel
[03:45] <RaydenUni> i just want my back button to work
[03:45] <RaydenUni> i got the wheel to work
[03:45] <Khalek2> lol
[03:46] <Ash-Fox> [matrix] , So... You're telling me you're using 'wireless fiber'?
[03:46] <[matrix] > no
[03:46] <[matrix] > i'm using
[03:46] <[matrix] > wirreles
[03:46] <[matrix] > conected with a fiber
[03:46] <Khalek2> I think what hes saying is the mythical fiber is connected into a long range router which sends the signal into his house.
[03:47] <nagyv_> if I click on an mp3 file in Firefox then Kaffeine opens instead of amarok. How can I change this behavior?
[03:47] <Ash-Fox> No, I think he means the radio waves are hitting a fiber.
[03:47] <[matrix] > configure amarok
[03:47] <RaydenUni> so no one knows how to get extra buttons working in kubuntu?
[03:47] <[matrix] > to opne mp3
[03:48] <[matrix] > just go to an mp3 file and open with it
[03:48] <[matrix] > hmmm
[03:48] <Ash-Fox> RaydenUni, I believe there is some method todo it in the xserver configuration.
[03:48] <Ash-Fox> RaydenUni, although you might want to poke at the stuff in [K] ->System first.
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> RaydenUni,  i know ive seen several wikis that cover this. :P not all of them are specificially for ubuntu however.
[03:49] <Ash-Fox> !mouse
[03:49] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:49] <nagyv_> RaydenUni: I know, here is a short description: http://www.rajk.uni-corvinus.hu/~nagyv/tmp/thePerfectDesktop-howtoforge.html
[03:49] <Ash-Fox> !botsnack
[03:49] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:50] <Hobbsee> [matrix] : nice...i didnt know they had fibre in italy....
[03:50] <[matrix] > yup
[03:50] <[matrix] > we have
[03:51] <[matrix] > just a sec
[03:51] <Ash-Fox> The US has a lot of darkfiber.
[03:51] <[matrix] > can i link here
[03:51] <[matrix] > is it spam?
[03:51] <[matrix] > my fiber is dark
[03:52] <RaydenUni> Ash-Fox nothing in the mouse settings
[03:52] <Ash-Fox> !mouse > RaydenUni
[03:52] <[matrix] > ash
[03:52] <RaydenUni> ?
[03:52] <[matrix] > if i link is it spam
[03:52] <[matrix] > ??
[03:52] <Ash-Fox> !mouse
[03:52] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:52] <Khalek2> lmao
[03:55] <Khalek2> ;o
[03:56] <nagyv_> if I click on an mp3 file in Firefox then Kaffeine opens instead of amarok. How can I change this behavior?
[03:58] <Ash-Fox> nagyv_, edit -> preferences -> downloads -> view & edit actions. You're better off using konqueror though.. Also you can do some messy hack that lets you use kde file choosers and kde's dcop for executing files...
[03:58] <Hobbsee> nagyv_: yes, right click on the mp3 in konqueror, open with, amarok
[03:58] <somekool> i cannot mount my NTFS partitions under kubuntu, any quick solution?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> !ntfs
[03:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:58] <Hobbsee> somekool: ^
[03:59] <Hobbsee> Ash-Fox: eh.  that's kinda annoying.
[03:59] <somekool> but FAT32 are not a problem,....
[03:59] <Ash-Fox> Hobbsee, what is?
[03:59] <NickGarvey> what is a "theme" file?
[03:59] <nagyv_> the problem with konqueror is that is doesn't has the same set of extensions as Firefox does
[03:59] <somekool> Hobbsee: so, basically NTFS support is built-in in kubuntu LiveDVD kernel?
[04:00] <douglas> not I am consiguindo to hear musicas?
[04:00] <Ash-Fox> NickGarvey, open a console, cd to the path where the file is, and do a 'file <filename>'.
[04:00] <Hobbsee> somekool: read support, not write.
[04:00] <somekool> right
[04:00] <nagyv_> Ash-Fox: could you point me to a howto to change to kde's dcop in firefox?
[04:00] <NickGarvey> Ash-Fox: I downloaded a theme off kde-look.org, it a tar.gz, but I don't know what I do with that, I uncompressed it, but now what?
[04:00] <Hobbsee> Ash-Fox: actually, there are vague plans to make a firefox-kde package or something
[04:00] <Ash-Fox> write support can be achieved using captiveNTFS.
[04:00] <Hobbsee> !theme
[04:00] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:00] <Hobbsee> !changethemes
[04:00] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE)
[04:01] <Ash-Fox> nagyv_, sure one sec.
[04:01] <douglas> not it speaks  Ingles
[04:01] <Hobbsee> NickGarvey: there you go :)
[04:01] <somekool> I'll give it another try. but I just thought it should have been automatic. like FAT32 partitions, I can mount them right from KDE. without having to deal with fstab or anything
[04:01] <Jucato> What are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:01] <douglas> Iam it speaks Portugues - Brasil
[04:01] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: yes, I'm there, but it is looking for "theme" files when I go to install themes
[04:01] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: I don't know what a "theme" file is
[04:01] <Jucato> What are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:03] <Hobbsee> somekool: that's true, i'm not sure why the permissions on them are wrong by default
[04:03] <Hobbsee> NickGarvey: then point it at the .tar.gz that you downloaded
[04:03] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: not letting me
[04:03] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: thats where I got confused
[04:04] <Hobbsee> NickGarvey: what type of theme is it?  icon, colour?
[04:04] <Ash-Fox> nagyv_, here is something you can use for a template, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Integrate_Firefox_with_KDE note: this is for gentoo not for kubuntu so the paths will not be the same.
[04:04] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: theme/style
[04:04] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: thats what it says on kde-look
[04:04] <Hobbsee> NickGarvey: system settings, appearance, import theme
[04:05] <InuDuelist> LOL LYK I M BAK LOL
[04:05] <InuDuelist> Hi, all.
[04:05] <Jucato> What are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:05] <Jucato> am I invisible or something?
[04:05] <Jucato> Hobbsee: it might be a widget style that needs to be compiled/installed...
[04:05] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: where is system settings? I am in personal settings..
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Jucato: We can't see you!
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Heh
[04:05] <Hobbsee> NickGarvey: system settings / kcontrol
[04:05] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Integrate_Firefox_with_KDE
[04:05] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, I can't see you :(
[04:05] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true that, and some other settings
[04:06] <Jucato> :-(
[04:06] <somekool> Hobbsee: I'd say it something that should be fixed
[04:06] <Hobbsee> Jucato: neat!
[04:06] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: there is no "import theme" option, there is a "theme manager" option
[04:06] <Jucato> NickGarvey: could you post a link to the theme/style you downloaded?
[04:06] <Hobbsee> somekool: indeed.  i think it was fixed in edgy
[04:06] <Hobbsee> NickGarvey: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:06] <Hobbsee> NickGarvey: and look under appearances, not in the main system settings window
[04:06] <Hobbsee> !changetheme
[04:07] <Hobbsee> !changethemes
[04:07] <Hobbsee> ubotu: ping
[04:07] <Jucato> eheheh.... ubotu's kinda out of it, it seems...
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE)
[04:08] <Ash-Fox> Maybe someone is flooding it
[04:08] <ubotu> pong
[04:08] <InuDuelist> Gr.
[04:08] <Hobbsee> !-changethemes
[04:08] <ubotu> changethemes has no aliases - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 16:25:41
[04:08] <InuDuelist> Sometimes, I just wish Firefox wouldn't suck so much on Linux.
[04:08] <eds01> How can you get kubuntu to boot up into a terminal with a command prompt and all (so you have to sign in and start xwindows)?
[04:09] <Hobbsee> !no changethemes is <reply> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:09] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[04:09] <Hobbsee> !changethemes
[04:09] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:09] <Hobbsee> bingo
[04:09] <Hobbsee> eds01: disable kdm?
[04:09] <eds01> how?  i'm a bit of a newb, so...
[04:10] <Jucato> Hobbsee: lol! thanks. I'm not sure if it's a "good" one. (but seriously, KDE-Look needs a bit of organization and a guide...)
[04:10] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true that
[04:10] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it looked okay from my small eyeballing of it :P
[04:10] <Jucato> ehehe thanks!
[04:11] <AZ_AS> there a way to tell Konqueror where to download files? I'm trying to find it but I don't see it yet in the Konqueror Configure options
[04:12] <InuDuelist> Is there any way to change the color of the text on the taskbar?
[04:12] <Hobbsee> AZ_AS: i would *think* that they're there
[04:12] <InuDuelist> It's really starting to strain my eyes.
[04:12] <AZ_AS> same here, Hobbsee but no luck in finding it yet
[04:12] <Hobbsee> InuDuelist: system settings, appearances, colours.
[04:12] <Hobbsee> InuDuelist: you can change almost anything you like there
[04:12] <Jucato> InuDuelist: I think the task bar text uses the color from the Button Text in System Settings
[04:12] <Ash-Fox> By the way, is it a mistake that kcontrol isn't linked from anywhere on the menu?
[04:13] <InuDuelist> No.
[04:13] <Hobbsee> Ash-Fox: no, duplicated by system settings
[04:13] <InuDuelist> (K)Ubuntu comes with a more user-friendly type of control center.
[04:14] <Hobbsee> Jucato: you should see the edgy one :)
[04:14] <Jucato> Hobbsee: yeah! I'm looking forward to i
[04:14] <Jucato> s/i/it
[04:15] <Ash-Fox> Hobbsee, hm, I'm pretty sure some settings in kcontrol aren't accessible in system settings.
[04:15] <InuDuelist> Jucato, which one's for the active windows?
[04:15] <Hobbsee> Ash-Fox: yes, true that.
[04:15] <Hobbsee> Ash-Fox: hence "more user friendly"
[04:15] <Jucato> but for now... I'm sticking to KControl for a bit... hoping that a System Settings bug is fixed in KDE...
[04:15] <Hobbsee> supposedly
[04:15] <Hobbsee> Ash-Fox: edgy's much better :)
[04:16] <Hobbsee> Jucato: which one?
[04:17] <Jucato> Hobbsee: Regional and Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts > swithching from Shortcut Schemes tab to Command Shortcuts tab crashes it
[04:17] <InuDuelist> Feck it.
[04:17] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ahh yes, i remember that one.  the one i could never reproduce.
[04:17] <romeo> hello can someone give me a good repo to add to adept i m mostly looking for multimedia codecs and mplayer i also want to play commercial dvds .i have kubuntu 6.06 llts
[04:18] <Hobbsee> Jucato: they've changed the names around
[04:18] <Hobbsee> !repos
[04:18] <InuDuelist> Grr.
[04:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:18] <Hobbsee> !restricted
[04:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:18] <Hobbsee> romeo: ^
[04:18] <InuDuelist> I think I'm just going to use Konquerer from now on.
[04:18] <InuDuelist> Too bad it's inferior.
[04:18] <eds01> so how do i disable kdm?
[04:19] <Hobbsee> eds01: probably try googling that - i dont remember
[04:19] <romeo> !restricted hobsee?
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted hobsee? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <Jucato> Hobbsee: they have???
[04:19] <romeo> ok
[04:20] <Hobbsee> Jucato: system settigns got a lot of changes to it
[04:20] <Jucato> kool!
[04:20] <Hobbsee> Jucato: they're still changing bits
[04:20] <Hobbsee> well, not in the next couple of days, but after that we can :)
[04:20] <Jucato> you know what would be even better? If it could get a sort of KControlEdit equivalent!
[04:20] <Hobbsee> Jucato: kcontroledit?
[04:20] <Jucato> Hobbsee: yep
[04:21] <Jucato> haven't tried that one yet?
[04:21] <Jucato> KControlEdit is the KMenuEdit of KControl
[04:22] <moj0rising> hello, everyone. I have a very ugly question to ask.. hopefully I don't get kicked...
[04:22] <moj0rising> ...my current workplace is using AD. Being a linux person. I do not know how to do some simple administration things...
[04:22] <flaccid> ne1 here use vpnc ?
[04:23] <moj0rising> ...like creating login scripts such that people get drive letters pointing to various shared on a network...
[04:23] <Hobbsee> Jucato: point.  that entire module isnt in, for some reason
[04:23] <moj0rising> any one know where I can get this info in a quick easy to digest manner?
[04:24] <moj0rising> Sorry. I know it is an unrelated topic.
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> moj0rising: I'd love to help, but I'm not even sure what you mean by "AD". :\
[04:24] <moj0rising> but this was the best place I could think of to ask around. I have checked ms web site.
[04:25] <moj0rising> AD = active directory
[04:25] <moj0rising> ha
[04:25] <Jucato> Hobbsee: no. it's not a KControl module. KControlEdit is a separate program for editing the contents/organization of KControl.
[04:25] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true that.  system settings is missing the module in kcontrol about it though
[04:25] <Jucato> oh
[04:27] <Jucato> I would find it extremely nice if you could hide some of the stuff you don't commonly use in System Settings... (I have lots of those)
[04:28] <Hobbsee> Jucato: that's what's been done.
[04:29] <Jucato> kool!!
[04:29] <Jucato> will those changes be available in Knot 2?
[04:29] <Hobbsee> most of them
[04:29] <Hobbsee> i think there are colour changes that arent
[04:29] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it's still very much a WIP
[04:31] <Jucato> still, something to look forward to. After seeing YaST and drakconf, System Settings has become one of the things I want to become better
[04:33] <revrogue> hello
[04:33] <revrogue> anyone interested in giving a linux newb a hand :)
[04:34] <Jucato> I'd be happy to give you an arm as well if I could :-D
[04:36] <revrogue> lol
[04:36] <charims> crimsun: Are you back from AFK?
[04:36] <Jucato>  *** aseigo_boink is now known as aseigo. ... boink.... :-D
[04:37] <revrogue> have a small prob with my wireless ad I am usng dapper 6.06
[04:37] <LeeJunFan> just spit it out.
[04:38] <Jucato> oooh... unfortunately that's one area I can't help...
[04:38] <LeeJunFan> no need for foreplay.
[04:38] <opus__> hola
[04:38] <revrogue> bah...
[04:38] <charims> Hey, jucato, u have time to look at my sound systme again? i have a lot more info now...
[04:39] <revrogue> how about changing drivers or such
[04:40] <atkaazm> hi, can someone tell me how to make the cursor skip words while writting a command on console? Ctrl+Left, Ctrl+Right doesn't work
[04:40] <aseigo> Jucato: yeah ... it's my alternanick
[04:40] <Jucato> heheh
[04:45] <charims> can someone look at my dmesg and help me with my sound system? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22109 I also have this info here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22105
[04:46] <charims> I was told to run a memory test by Crimsun, but it came up with no errors. It checked two times.
[04:46] <Jucato> rawr! sorry charims... when it comes to hardware stuff... I'm a noob...
[04:46] <charims> ok, haha, its good, anyone else, please ;)
[04:47] <charims> man, with all this info i have, im going to post a bug report here soon, haha, there is a lot here....
[04:47] <Ozelot_3> noob too
[04:47] <Jucato> charims: no luck with the forums?
[04:48] <Ozelot_3> or groups?
[04:48] <charims> Jucato: none at all, not a reply, neither kubuntu or ubuntu, not even, "I have no idea" replies...
[04:48] <Hobbsee> you're looking for crimsun
[04:48] <Hobbsee> with sound
[04:48] <charims> yeah, well, he was heloping me eralier, but he is AFK ATM
[04:48] <Jucato> charims: what section did you post it in ubuntuforums?
[04:48] <charims> Video and sound
[04:48] <charims> under Dapper
[04:49] <charims> and Hardware, under Dapper in kubuntu
[04:49] <charims> thats obsolete now, all of my info is on paste, but still the general problem
[04:49] <Jucato> charims: try posting it some other section... lol
[04:49] <charims> wow, hehe, thats evil
[04:49] <charims> :)
[04:49] <Hobbsee> charims: what's the problem?  sound doesnt work?
[04:49] <Jucato> with a high traffic site like ubuntuforums... it's only natural that few people would take notice...
[04:50] <charims> well, yes, no sound except from gaim
[04:50] <Hobbsee> ooh, lovely
[04:50] <charims> but Crimsun helped me get a startup sound to kinda work from terminal
[04:51] <charims> it sounds like a heartbeat though, jsut plays once, but it is supposed to reapeat every 30 seconds
[04:51] <charims> ...
[04:51] <Hobbsee> charims: no idea.  crimsun should though.  he's the expert on it
[04:51] <charims> so, yeah, thats when he asked for dmesg and for me to do some modprobe thing, it was complex...
[04:52] <charims> ok, well, thats good, at least i know someone realible is helping me at this, this problem has been going on for a week
[04:52] <charims> i will remember to thank him
[04:53] <charims> I remember in Breezy Ubuntu i got it to work after much frustration, and on this computer too, then i got rid of ubuntu, i didn't like it much at the time, felt dumb when i started it, still do kinda...
[04:56] <driz> !edgy
[04:56] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:57] <charims> yup, well, i'm sticking with kubuntu, even if i have to get a new sound card :(
[04:58] <charims> Crimsun: hey bud, u back yet?
[04:58] <charims> jsut checking...
[04:59] <charims> hey, whatd do you prefer, Kopete or Gaim?
[05:00] <Jucato> rawr Kopete
[05:00] <driz> hi i have a problem i have an old computer with 8GB should I move to Xubuntu
[05:00] <driz> ?
[05:00] <driz> Gaim!
[05:00] <charims> why do you prefer these?
[05:01] <Jucato> driz: what's the processor speed and how much RAM? hard disk size isn't the main consideration for choosing Xubuntu
[05:01] <charims> maybe i should jsut try kopete out and see if i like it
[05:01] <driz> how do i check the ram :-P
[05:02] <Jucato> Kopete because of it's integration with KDE and Kontact. because of the popup notifications in the system tray
[05:02] <AZ_AS> Jucato, where's your avatar from the Kubuntu forums from? it's cute
[05:03] <Jucato> AZ_AS: ehehe! thanks! I made it myself
[05:03] <AZ_AS> nice! :)
[05:03] <charims> Driz: put in your live cd at startup and run the memory test
[05:04] <charims> DON"T INSTALL :p
[05:04] <driz> oh come on do you know how long that would take
[05:04] <Jucato> driz: or ou can type in "free" in Konsole
[05:04] <Jucato> it will output Mem Total in bytes
[05:04] <charims> oh, i thought you meant check if the ram is working properly, nevermind....
[05:04] <charims> :(
[05:05] <madman__> does any one know where the Screensaver images are stored ?
[05:06] <driz> how can i make it so i can understand it
[05:06] <driz> ?
[05:06] <driz> on konsole
[05:06] <Jucato> driz: "free -m" to display output in MB
[05:06] <driz> cool thanks
[05:06] <flaccid> i'm mounting a fat drive with uid=1000, but it is is doing this to each file drwxr-xr-x 42 500 root   32768 2006-07-17 17:32 personal
[05:07] <flaccid> ie. 500.root
[05:07] <Jucato> the number  under "total" on the Mem: line is the amount of RAM you have
[05:07] <flaccid> why is that
[05:07] <charims> hmm, i kinda like kopete better so far...
[05:07] <flaccid> !mount
[05:07] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:08] <driz> oh man thats small
[05:08] <Jucato> driz: how much?
[05:08] <charims> what a samrt bot
[05:08] <charims> smart*
[05:08] <Jucato> !fstab
[05:08] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:08] <madman__> !Screensaver
[05:08] <driz> Jucato 122
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <flaccid> hmm can anyone help me with my problem
[05:08] <Jucato> driz: err.. yeah.. better go with Xubuntu...
[05:09] <driz> let me apt get it now
[05:10] <Breetai> Help! My notification area, (where the iocns go in the tray) is missing. How do I get it back in 6.06????
[05:10] <charims> ok guys, im going to switch to irc though kopete, i want to see this
[05:10] <charims> :)
[05:10] <Jucato> charims: good luck...
[05:10] <Hobbsee> Breetai: type "kicker"?
[05:10] <danny500> yo
[05:10] <Hobbsee> Breetai: er, alt+f2, kicker?
[05:10] <danny500> I got one question
[05:10] <Jucato> err...
[05:11] <danny500> will serious sam sp work on wine windows emulator?
[05:11] <Breetai> No, the kicker is there, but if  amarok is minimuzied it can not be seen, and klipper is running but not seen
[05:11] <Jucato> Breetai: right-click on the Panel, choose Add Applet to Panel, then look for System Tray and add it..
[05:11] <flaccid> mount returns /dev/hda2 on /mnt/flaccid type vfat (rw,uid=1000,gid=1000) yet, the mask on each file is 500.root (not flaccid.flaccid) why is this?
[05:11] <danny500> no will ever know
[05:12] <Breetai> Jucato: You rock!! Thanks alot
[05:12] <driz> jucato: sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop is not working
[05:12] <Jucato> driz: would it be possible for you to get hold of a Xubuntu installer?
[05:12] <Jucato> adding Xubuntu on top of Kubuntu/Ubuntu would hurt what hard disk space you have left...
[05:13] <driz> ya i think i can download it at work and burn it
[05:13] <charims> how do i change my nickname, mes forgot
[05:13] <driz> but i will loose all my files
[05:13] <charims89> nevermind
[05:13] <Jucato> driz: oh...
[05:14] <driz> ha i am a year older than youcharims
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> driz: To remove k/ubuntu desktop, you can have a look here: http://robotgeek.org/wiki/ShellScripts/CleanPackage
[05:16] <driz> CheeseBurgerMan: i dont like to do things i dont understand
[05:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> driz: OK, fair enough. :)
[05:17] <Jucato> driz: is this a new installation of Kubuntu?
[05:18] <driz> no been having this for a while now.
[05:18] <driz> since it came out.
[05:18] <Jucato> aaah
[05:19] <charims89> Crimsun: hey bud, u back yet, no rush, jsut checking...
[05:20] <driz> Jucato it runs ok, but i just want a new computer or the illusion of one.
[05:20] <charims> wow, this is cool....
[05:20] <charims> im running to clients at the same time, exiting konversation... now
[05:20] <charims> by charims 89, hehe
[05:21] <Jucato> charims: ehehe! I would still prefer Konversation, for some reasons...
[05:21] <charims>  :-)
[05:22] <charims> idk, i like this thing, but its going to take getting used to... did the nickerv identify me?
[05:22] <charims> i don't have a separate window to tell...
[05:22] <Jucato> I wouldn't know...
[05:23] <driz> i tried to regisster a nick but failed
[05:23] <NickGarvey> I don't hink you are
[05:23] <crimsun> charims: hi.
[05:23] <Jucato> driz: /msg NickServ register <password> <e-mail>
[05:23] <NickGarvey> yeah you arnet'
[05:23] <charims> hi crimsun
[05:24] <charims> crimsun: test passed, it ran 2 tests...
[05:24] <crimsun> charims: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'
[05:25] <charims> crimsun: returned :2.6.15-26.46
[05:25] <driz> ok it why is my nick in a convo tab
[05:25] <charims> crimsun: i understand that they had errors with this chip in .14
[05:25] <driz> i did that thing and it came up
[05:25] <crimsun> charims: ok. You're getting strange memory corruption in the kernel itself
[05:26] <crimsun> charims: "this chip"?
[05:26] <Jucato> driz: /msg NickServ <-- sends a private message to NickServ, it responds to you, so a new tab is opened
[05:26] <charims> crimsun: maybe becuase i compiled my own alsa driver?
[05:26] <crimsun> which version are you using?
[05:26] <driz> ok and now it is mine for ever
[05:26] <charims> crimsun: version of kernel?
[05:26] <Jucato> driz: well, not forever. ehehehe!
[05:27] <crimsun> charims: "becuase i compiled my own alsa driver"
[05:27] <driz>  /msg driz_ register <j83n3r9y> <jbgy34@gmail.com>
[05:27] <driz> oh shit
[05:27] <driz> oh well
[05:27] <charims> crimson: i followed the instructions in the "comprehensive sound problems solutions guide"
[05:27] <InuDuelist> driz, avoid that.
[05:28] <charims> its okay driz, i wont spam you
[05:28] <driz> ya
[05:28] <InuDuelist> And it's "/msg nickserv"
[05:28] <driz> lol thanks
[05:28] <InuDuelist> Sure.
[05:28] <charims> crimsun: on the ubuntu forums, stickied under video and sound, ill get a url
[05:28] <Jucato> InuDuelist: NickServ and nickserv are the same
[05:28] <driz> ok
[05:28] <crimsun> charims: but which version did you compile?
[05:28] <InuDuelist> Jucato, look up.
[05:28] <InuDuelist> He messaged "driz_"
[05:28] <flaccid> how to install kernel headers?
[05:28] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[05:29] <InuDuelist> You said something above.
[05:29] <charims> crimsun: idk, is there a way i can check?
[05:29] <InuDuelist> Didn't see it.
[05:29] <crimsun> charims: unfortunately I can't help support anything but what K/Ubuntu ships by default, so if you compiled your own, you're on your own
[05:29] <Jucato> InuDuelist: oh... I specifically told him to /msg NickServ....
[05:29] <crimsun> charims: cat /proc/asound/version
[05:29] <Jucato> driz: I told you "/msg NickServ register <password> <e-mail>"
[05:29] <InuDuelist> Jucato, got any advice as to speeding up Firefox?
[05:29] <InuDuelist> At least, like, double the amount it is now?
[05:30] <Jucato> InuDuelist: SwiftFox?
[05:30] <InuDuelist> Seriously.
[05:30] <charims> i jsut followed the guide, hhaha, it didn't make any difference when i did it anyways
[05:30] <InuDuelist> "SwiftFox?"
[05:30] <Jucato> sorry dude, I very rarely use Firefox
[05:30] <InuDuelist> Ah.
[05:30] <InuDuelist> What do you use?
[05:30] <InuDuelist> Konquerer?
[05:30] <Jucato> good old Konqui
[05:30] <charims> crimsun:Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10.
[05:30] <charims> Compiled on Aug 25 2006 for kernel 2.6.15-26-386.
[05:30] <InuDuelist> How do you live without a Bookmark Toolbaar?
[05:30] <Jucato> InuDuelist: http://www.getswiftfox.com/
[05:31] <Jucato> InuDuelist: what? I have a bookmark Toolbar
[05:31] <crimsun> charims: 1.0.10...? Why didn't you just use 1.0.12? 1.0.10 is _older_ than what Dapper ships with!
[05:31] <crimsun> charims: (Dapper ships with 1.0.10rc3+everything backported from 1.0.12)
[05:31] <charims> crimsun: really, well i didnt know what i was doing, jsut following the instuctions, can i revert to before?
[05:32] <crimsun> charims: sure. Do you use any binary-only drivers?
[05:32] <charims> crimsun:umm, IDK
[05:32] <crimsun> charims: nvidia or fglrx are the most well-known
[05:33] <charims> crimsun: well, i installed nvidia graphics drivers
[05:33] <charims> crimsun: if that counts
[05:33] <charims> crimsun: never heard of fglrx
[05:33] <crimsun> how did you install them?
[05:33] <charims> crimsun: automatix
[05:34] <Zamboulie> my windows computer is trying to print something on a printer thats connected to my linux computer
[05:34] <Zamboulie> and its not working
[05:34] <crimsun> no idea what automatix does.
[05:34] <flaccid> how to install kernel-headers?
[05:34] <charims> crimsun: it jsut got a package...
[05:34] <Zamboulie> does it have to do with the fact that i'm on linux
[05:34] <crimsun> flaccid: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> !headers
[05:34] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[05:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Fine, crimsun is faster than me. :P
[05:34] <charims> crimsun: its for noobs, who arn't sure what and where to download from...
[05:34] <leonrott> hi
[05:35] <Zamboulie> oh automatix installs alot of programs and drivers you need
[05:35] <leonrott> anybody have a real xgl guide for kubuntu??
[05:35] <Zamboulie> ya
[05:35] <Zamboulie> i do
[05:35] <Zamboulie> !xgl
[05:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:35] <kutan> !haxoring
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about haxoring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <kutan> Damn
[05:35] <Zamboulie> lol
[05:35] <kutan> Anyone have a guide on that?
[05:35] <leonrott> thanks
[05:36] <charims> crimsun: if you arn't sure of an easy way to go back to regualr alsa drivers, then i can reinstall kubuntu.. not much to lose, i can move everything important to my ntfs
[05:36] <charims> drive
[05:37] <crimsun> charims: I know of an easy way to reinstall the default kernel, yes, but it'd be nice not to munge your Nvidia config
[05:37] <crimsun> charims: granted if you had followed the proper Ubuntu method, it'd be much more straightforward
[05:37] <charims> crimsun: ok, sorry about all the touble...
[05:37] <crimsun> charims: modinfo nvidia|grep ^filename
[05:37] <driz> jucato uhhhh its not working for me... I dont care anyways
[05:38] <charims> crimsun:filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/nvidia.ko
[05:38] <crimsun> charims: good.
[05:39] <charims> crimsun: chad herby solemnly swears to never again compile a driver unless he knows what hes doing
[05:39] <crimsun> charims: now you'll need to stop kdm and do the rest of this from a console (tty1)
[05:39] <charims> haha, ok
[05:39] <charims> so what do i do
[05:39] <crimsun> which irc client are you using now?
[05:39] <kutan> !Hacking
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Hacking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <kutan> Anyone?
[05:39] <kutan> Hacking guide
[05:39] <charims> kopete
[05:40] <driz> google
[05:40] <flaccid> is this normal when doing an fdisk -l Partition table entries are not in disk order ?
[05:40] <charims> crimsun: but i can use konversation too
[05:40] <driz> kutan go to google
[05:40] <kutan> I was using google
[05:40] <kutan> for at least an hour
[05:40] <driz> and just so you know you have to know how to program
[05:40] <Jucato> you probably won't find a good answer here. this is the #kubuntu support channel
[05:41] <kutan> lol yeah... I noticed...
[05:41] <crimsun> charims: ok, when you quit kdm, that will exit, so you'll want to switch to tty1 (press ctrl+alt+F1), log in, then execute ``screen irssi''. Once irssi has loaded, type: /connect -ircnet freenode chat.freenode.net 8001
[05:41] <kutan> But I don't know where I would go
[05:41] <crimsun> charims: then: /join #kubuntu
[05:41] <Jucato> what do you mean by "hacking"?
[05:41] <charims> crimsun: ok i have to write thsi down, ill forget it
[05:41] <driz> well then go learn python C C++ Perl or something you wont find anything here
[05:41] <kutan> Well I remember when I used Windows they had like
[05:41] <kutan> telnet hacking games
[05:42] <Jucato> ??
[05:42] <Jucato> hacking as in trying to bypass security or get into another system?
[05:42] <kutan> Bypass security, like for example
[05:43] <kutan> there's this one website where you would have to hack into the site and try to figure out how to get the password for the next round of the game
[05:43] <charims> crimsun: to quit KDM i jsut log off, and hit ctrl alt f1?
[05:44] <Jucato> I don't really think that's something that's encouraged/taught here...
[05:44] <crimsun> charims: no, you'll have to do more
[05:44] <crimsun> charims: go ahead and log in via tty1; pressing alt+F7 will take to you back to your KDE session
[05:44] <rOOb> kutan, google legal haking.....notice the 1st result
[05:44] <rOOb> *hacking
[05:44] <rOOb> they have a few
[05:44] <rOOb> hackthissite.com i think
[05:45] <rOOb> *hackthissite.org
[05:45] <kutan> Yeah but doesn't that require telnet which only windows provides?
[05:45] <rOOb> um
[05:45] <rOOb> are u realy asking that?
[05:45] <kutan> ...
[05:45] <kutan> Yeah
[05:46] <kutan> If it's a stupid question then my excuse is
[05:46] <Jucato> this might not be the proper channel for it...
[05:46] <kutan> I'm a newbie
[05:46] <rOOb> goto a console and type man telnet
[05:46] <kutan> oh
[05:46] <kutan> thanks :D
[05:46] <kutan> That's all I needed to know
[05:46] <kutan> no more hacking conversations
[05:47] <charims_> crimsun: i logged in...
[05:48] <charims_> crimsun: are you there?
[05:49] <crimsun> charims_: good. Now press: ^a^c (ctrl+a followed by ctrl+c), which will create a new screen buffer. In this new screen buffer, type: ``sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop''. To get back to this screen buffer, press ^a^p (ctrl+a followed by ctrl+p).
[05:49] <charims_> crimsun: ok, gotchya
[05:51] <charims_> crimsun: ok, i did
[05:51] <charims_> crimsun: it shoed the kubunto logo, then went back to the prompt
[05:52] <crimsun> good. Now switch to your previous screen buffer (^a^p), and type: ``lsmod|grep ^nvidia''. Then switch back to this buffer and tell us if you get any output.
[05:53] <charims_> crimsun: ok
[05:54] <charims_> crimsun; i got two lines, nvidia followed by some numbers, and nvidia_agp followed by #'s i can get those #'s if u need them
[05:55] <crimsun> charims_: I just need the one for nvidia
[05:55] <charims_> crimsun: i am using the agp card though.., but ok
[05:55] <chrazritt> hi all
[05:56] <charims_> crimsun: it reads nvidia 4550772 0
[05:57] <charims_> crimsun: btw this is awesome this is why i love linux, there is nothing you cannot do... :) very free...
[05:57] <crimsun> charims_: excellent. Now switch back to the previous buffer and execute ``sudo modprobe -r nvidia && sudo umount /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/''
[05:57] <charims_> kk
[06:00] <AZ_AS> hmm, how do I add a fortune data file for fortune? read the readme file for one of them but I don't see /usr/games/lib/fortunes...if I created the folder, it should be fine right?
[06:00] <charims_> crimsun:kk
[06:00] <crimsun> AZ_AS: no, just install any other fortune* package(s)
[06:01] <charims_> crimsun: done
[06:02] <charims_> crimsun: hopefully this won't take too much longer, my dad is say, "It's time for bed..." school tomorrow
[06:02] <crimsun> charims_: goot, now ``sudo apt-get -d --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)''
[06:02] <crimsun> good, even.
[06:02] <charims_> crimsun: ok
[06:04] <fyyrest0rm> hi all :)
[06:05] <charims_> crimsun: its installing
[06:05] <charims_> crimsun: it says "download complete in download only mode"
[06:06] <AZ_AS> crimsun, I tried that but I downloaded a fortune data file from freshmeat in a bz2 format, and I'm trying to figure out where to put the dat file...fortune is installed
[06:06] <fyyrest0rm> anyone have any experience with mp3 players (DAP's)? Just bought one, it uses mtp protocol (apparently).. the instructions says I have to use windows media player to get stuff to the player. Anyone know anything about it?
[06:07] <crimsun> charims_: excellent. Now ``sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r) && sudo apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r)''
[06:07] <crimsun> charims_: sorry, hold a sec.
[06:07] <crimsun> charims_: ``sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r) && sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)''
[06:07] <AZ_AS> found it :)
[06:08] <Xcalibur> yo
[06:08] <Xcalibur> kubuntu is not recognizing my linksys wireless-g adapter?
[06:08] <Xcalibur> how i fix?
[06:09] <Xcalibur> I'm using ethernet for now, but I want my wireless solution soon, pl???
[06:09] <Xcalibur> plz*
[06:11] <Xcalibur> anyone, plz, this isn't even my laptop!!!
[06:11] <Xcalibur> i gotta have this fixed by 2morrow!
[06:11] <chrazritt> you have the driver file disk for the card?
[06:11] <Xcalibur> yeah
[06:11] <Xcalibur> but it's for windows I thought
[06:11] <Xcalibur> ?
[06:12] <Xcalibur> should I try it?
[06:12] <chrazritt> look at it in a explorer window
[06:12] <Xcalibur> um?ok
[06:12] <charims_> crimsun: we have an error "Couldn't find package linux-2.6.15.-26-386
[06:12] <Xcalibur> brb, let me go get it
[06:12] <chrazritt> tell me if it has any .cat files
[06:13] <crimsun> charims_: did you type precisely what I gave you?
[06:14] <charims_> crimsun: the last thing you gave me i messesd up the first time, and forgot the -$(uname -r) at the end, it gave me an error there, so i tried again
[06:14] <crimsun> charims_: success?
[06:14] <romeo> hello i cant get radio streams with kaffeine
[06:14] <charims_> crimsun: no, the second time is when i got the error
[06:15] <romeo> xms i believe
[06:15] <charims_> crimsun: the first time it said can't find package linux-img
[06:15] <crimsun> charims_: make sure you type it precisely
[06:15] <charims_> crimsun: okay, try again?
[06:15] <crimsun> yes, please
[06:16] <Xcalibur> yay!!!
[06:16] <Xcalibur> i found it!
[06:16] <Xcalibur> the disc
[06:16] <chrazritt> ok
[06:16] <charims_> crimsun: it still says it, i checked it too, cant find package linux-img-2.6.15.#####
[06:17] <Xcalibur> just pop it in, then what next?
[06:17] <charims_> crimsun: do i have to redownload it?
[06:17] <crimsun> charims_: linux-img? note your typo if so
[06:17] <chrazritt> look at it and see if there is a .cat file
[06:17] <Xcalibur> umm....no
[06:18] <Xcalibur> o
[06:18] <Xcalibur> yeah, there is
[06:18] <chrazritt> what files are there?
[06:18] <kinema> Is it possible ot accelerate multiple screens when running xinerama?
[06:18] <charims_> crimsun: the first time i wrote linux-img, the second time i got it right with linuc-image-$(uname -r), and it gives me that last error
[06:18] <chrazritt> ok and an .inf?
[06:18] <charims_> crimsun: linux*
[06:18] <Xcalibur> I looked in the /driver/NT/ folders on the disc
[06:18] <Xcalibur> yes
[06:18] <Xcalibur> and a .sys
[06:19] <crimsun> charims_: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-$(uname -r)*deb
[06:19] <fyyrest0rm> anyone know of something like gnomad2 for kde?
[06:19] <Xcalibur> wat i do with the .inf, .sys, and .cat files?
[06:19] <chrazritt> open a terminal window from the folder where you find the files
[06:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> fyyrest0rm: As long as the GTK+ libraries are installed, Gnomad2 should run in KDE.
[06:20] <fyyrest0rm> CheeseBurgerMan: cool. thanks :)
[06:20] <chrazritt> got it?
[06:20] <aytch> Anybody know a simple script or method for automounting an NTFS drive at startup?
[06:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> !fstab
[06:20] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:20] <chrazritt> what are the file names of the .cat and the .inf files?
[06:21] <Xcalibur> h/o
[06:21] <Xcalibur> how i open up a terminal for that specific directory, I tried using the cd command, it keeps telling me invalid driectory
[06:21] <charims_> crimsun: it says no such file or directory
[06:22] <chrazritt> right click in the directory window and see if there is a choice like "xterm"
[06:23] <Xcalibur> no, I'm using kubuntu, it uses konsole
[06:23] <Xcalibur> right?
[06:23] <crimsun> charims_: argh, sorry.
[06:23] <charims_> crimsun: what?
[06:23] <crimsun> charims_: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-$(uname -r)*deb
[06:24] <charims_> crimsun: ok, will run that
[06:24] <Xcalibur> what i do next
[06:24] <Xcalibur> ?
[06:24] <Lamington> Xcalibur: what directory are you looking for ?
[06:25] <chrazritt> ok
[06:25] <Xcalibur> i'm in my CD directory, looking at my drivers that need to be installed
[06:25] <Xcalibur> but i can't get a terminal to navigate to that directory
[06:25] <chrazritt> what are the names of the .cat and .inf files?
[06:25] <Xcalibur> ok
[06:25] <Xcalibur> um
[06:25] <Xcalibur> LSBCMNDS.inf
[06:25] <Xcalibur> and
[06:26] <Lamington> Is the directory just called CD ?
[06:26] <Xcalibur> LSBCMNDS.cat
[06:26] <Xcalibur> no
[06:26] <Xcalibur> in the konqerer thing, it says system:/media/hdc/Driver/NT
[06:26] <charims_> crimsun: it jsut said the same loaction in red this time
[06:26] <Xcalibur> in the location adress
[06:27] <chrazritt> in the terminal window type "source LSBCMNDS.cat" without the quotes
[06:27] <charims_> crimsun: it said the location name in red, nothing else...
[06:27] <Xcalibur> yay
[06:27] <maninder> aaaa i dont get this
[06:27] <maninder> cant figure out how to use kubuntu
[06:27] <Xcalibur> i have navigated to that directory, what next
[06:28] <Xcalibur> it was in /media/cdrom/Driver/NT
[06:28] <crimsun> charims_: good. now: ``sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-$(uname -r)*deb''
[06:28] <Xcalibur> i typed in cd  /media/cdrom/Driver/NT
[06:28] <Xcalibur> it worked, what next?
[06:28] <chrazritt>  in the terminal window type "source LSBCMNDS.cat" without the quotes
[06:29] <Xcalibur> ok
[06:29] <Xcalibur> it gave me bash: 0: command not found
[06:29] <notech> maninder: whats the problem?
[06:30] <charims_> crimsun: its running
[06:30] <maninder> well what is this hda 2 hda 2
[06:30] <Xcalibur> what next?
[06:30] <Xcalibur> there your Hard diskd
[06:30] <Xcalibur> disks
[06:30] <Xcalibur> *
[06:30] <chrazritt> next type "ndiswrapper -i LSBCMNDS.inf" without the quotes
[06:30] <maninder> i used to have 2 in windows now i see 3
[06:30] <maninder> so im wondering what happened
[06:31] <charims_> crimsun: its done
[06:31] <Xcalibur> gave me this "bash: ndiswrapper: command not found"
[06:31] <Xcalibur> wtf?
[06:31] <charims_> crimsun: installed just fine :)
[06:32] <notech> maninder: hda2 is the second partition on the primary master drive
[06:32] <chrazritt> ouch
[06:32] <danish> KPACKAGE KEEPS ASKING ME FOR ROOT PASSWORD AGAIN AND AGAIN
[06:32] <maninder> notech do you have msn to help me out ?
[06:32] <osiris> danish, dont paste in all caps
[06:32] <osiris> its rude
[06:32] <notech> maninder: no, i don't do messengers
[06:33] <charims_> crimsun: installed just fine :)
[06:33] <Xcalibur> what next?
[06:33] <chrazritt> try ndiswrapper -l (that's the lower case L)
[06:33] <Xcalibur> ok
[06:33] <crimsun> charims_: good, now it'll probably be easiest to reboot: ``sudo shutdown -r now''
[06:34] <Xcalibur> same
[06:34] <danish> osiris: srry wasn't intentional i didn't notice the caps
[06:34] <Xcalibur> just another error
[06:34] <charims_> crimsun: is now part of the command?
[06:34] <crimsun> charims_: yes
[06:34] <chrazritt> you are on kubuntu?
[06:34] <charims_> crimsun: ok, exectuing command
[06:34] <Xcalibur> me, yes
[06:35] <notech> maninder: i wasn't aware windows could even see linux partitions
[06:35] <chrazritt> try "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[06:35] <Xcalibur> i thought windows can see it if it is FAT, FAT32, or NTFS
[06:35] <Xcalibur> ok
[06:36] <maninder> well i have both windows and linux installed
[06:36] <maninder> and then i run windows i cant no linux files
[06:36] <maninder> i only see windows
[06:36] <maninder> along with my hard drive
[06:36] <notech> i don't consider fat/fat32/ntfs as linux partitions. they are windows filesystems
[06:36] <maninder> cant linux read fat 32?
[06:36] <AndrukTatum> amen to notech
[06:36] <Xcalibur> I got this "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[06:37] <AndrukTatum> maninder: yes
[06:37] <notech> maninder: there are 3rd party apps that attempt it. don't know their names though
[06:37] <Xcalibur> isn't there a place i can just drop the driver, and be done with it?
[06:37] <intelikey> hmm what's this krap  "pt_chown: needs to be installed setuid `root' "
[06:38] <notech> maninder: but yes, linux can read/write to fat32
[06:38] <AndrukTatum> maninder: yes, fstab, nuff said.  but linux doesnt really use fat partitions, because ext2 and ext3 and reiserfs are much better
[06:38] <Xcalibur> i got ext3
[06:38] <chrazritt> i forgot to have you use the "suto" part
[06:38] <AndrukTatum> ext3 is the rockzorz
[06:38] <Xcalibur> "sudo" you mean?
[06:38] <chrazritt> yes
[06:38] <notech> maninder: sorry, thought you meant windows reading linux partitions when i said 3rd party
[06:39] <Xcalibur> but, what next for the drivers, I need this badly!!1
[06:40] <maninder> well all i was wondering about was that when i run windows i cant see no linux files its like its not even there when i run linux i see 3 hard drives along with floppy drive
[06:40] <chrazritt> with sudo you should be able to install the driver with what i gave you
[06:40] <Xcalibur> ok
[06:40] <Xcalibur> it gave me this "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)"
[06:41] <maninder> notech can you private msg me please
[06:41] <notech> maninder: windows can't read linux but linux can read windows
[06:41] <NickGarvey> notech: nope
[06:41] <NickGarvey> !ext3
[06:41] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[06:41] <notech> NickGarvey: that 3rd party?
[06:41] <NickGarvey> notech: yup
[06:42] <Xcalibur> what i do next man, is there any other solution
[06:42] <Xcalibur> ?
[06:42] <NickGarvey> Xcalibur: do you have linux-source?
[06:42] <notech> ok, then i should have added... by default. heh
[06:42] <Xcalibur> linux-source?
[06:42] <Xcalibur> not sure
[06:42] <NickGarvey> Xcalibur: your kernel sources?
[06:42] <Charims> crimson: this i charims on laptop, kubuntu fails on startup on preparing restricted drivers
[06:42] <notech> maninder: get the message?
[06:43] <NickGarvey> Xcalibur: install them through adept, also get your linux-headers
[06:43] <chrazritt> sorry then i can't help you without being able to see what happens if it is going wrong using that input
[06:43] <crimsun> Charims: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:43] <Xcalibur> nickagrvey
[06:43] <Xcalibur> garvey*
[06:43] <Xcalibur> pm me plz
[06:43] <Charims> crimson: kk, how do i get into that, do i have to load in recovery mode?
[06:44] <crimsun> Charims: nope, just run the command I just gave you.
[06:44] <Charims> i can't no terminal...
[06:44] <crimsun> KDE probably doesn't start, but you should still be able to login
[06:44] <crimsun> via the terminal
[06:44] <crimsun> ctrl+alt+F1
[06:45] <Charims> crimsun: nada, im stuck on a kubunto logao screen, like the one while booting up
[06:45] <flaccid> !kernel-headers
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel-headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <flaccid> !headers
[06:45] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[06:45] <Charims> login*
[06:45] <flaccid> cool
[06:46] <Charims> crimson: should i restart in recovery mode?
[06:46] <crimsun> Charims: you should still have gettys running on the virtual consoles (alt+F1 through F6)
[06:46] <Charims> crimsun: tried it, nothing
[06:47] <crimsun> Charims: what screen are you at presently?
[06:47] <Xcalibur> omg
[06:47] <Xcalibur> someone plz help
[06:47] <Xcalibur> PLEASE!!!!!!!
[06:47] <Xcalibur> I'm dead
[06:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'll call the funeral home.
[06:48] <Charims> crimsun: right after loading kubuntu, i got this screen, with the kubuntu logo in blue, and the loading bar underneath, not the kde login, i can't get there
[06:48] <Xcalibur> happened to me 2
[06:49] <Xcalibur> anyway, I need help
[06:49] <Xcalibur> is there anyone who has some extreme linux knowledge to help me install these drivers!!!
[06:49] <crimsun> Charims: ok, yeah, boot in recovery mode
[06:50] <alex_> hello everyone
[06:50] <alex_> does anyone know how to install the msttcorefonts?
[06:51] <Hawkwind> !msttcorefonts
[06:51] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[06:51] <Hawkwind> alex_: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts  assuming you have multiverse enabled
[06:51] <Charims> crimsun: when booting recovery mode under the failed restricted drivers it says cannot make directory, ..././volatile or something like that, then it says read-only directory
[06:51] <Xcalibur> omg
[06:51] <alex_> multicerse!!!!
[06:52] <alex_> that must have been my problem
[06:52] <alex_> thanks
[06:52] <crimsun> Charims: no big deal, we can work around that.
[06:52] <Xcalibur> where else can I get some help
[06:52] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: What drivers ?
[06:52] <romeo>  hello i cant get radio streams with kaffeine
[06:53] <Xcalibur> for my wireless-G adapter by linksys
[06:53] <romeo> can someone help
[06:54] <crimsun> Charims: are you at a prompt yet?
[06:54] <alex_> hmmm
[06:54] <alex_> Hawkwind: I still get E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[06:54] <Charims> crimsun: when it says: give root password for matainace or press control D, it freezes, won't let me go farther
[06:54] <AndrukTatum> for all of you ubuntu developers: espresso kicks butt!  its awesome!
[06:54] <Hawkwind> alex_: sudo apt-get update  first
[06:54] <alex_> Hawkwind: even with multiverse enabled
[06:54] <Hawkwind> alex_: Then do it
[06:54] <alex_> Hawkwind: did that
[06:54] <crimsun> Charims: did you set a root password?
[06:55] <Hawkwind> alex_: Then you don't have multiverse enabled completely
[06:55] <Charims> crimsun: i belive so, at the beginning, but it jsut freezes there, no matter what i do, no denail of password or anything
[06:55] <crimsun> Charims: ok, boot using the live cd, then.
[06:55] <romeo> No plugin found to handle this resource (mms://ysj00ms01s0.aliant.net/CKCW)
[06:55] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: try madwifi (for atheros chipsets only) or ndiswrapper
[06:56] <Xcalibur> what the heck is madwifi?
[06:56] <Charims> crimsun: hey, its getting late here, will you be on tomorrow? Maybe at 5:00 US pacific Standard time, i think thats gmt -7 or 8
[06:56] <Charims> thats pm btw
[06:56] <alex_> Hawkwind: can you give my a link to read about multiverse, for some strange reason the search on Ubuntu's help page yields no results
[06:56] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: you could go find out, but its specifically for wifi cards with atheros chipsets
[06:57] <Hawkwind> !multiverse
[06:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:57] <crimsun> Charims: likely, ping me then
[06:57] <Charims> crimsun ping u thrugh irc?
[06:57] <crimsun> like this:
[06:57] <crimsun> crimsun: ping
[06:58] <crimsun> if I'm here I'll respond
[06:58] <Charims> crimsun: ok, thankyou, have a good night, sorry that i had to quit before we were done.
[06:58] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: http://madwifi.org and http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[06:59] <Charims> crimsun: night
[06:59] <romeo> anubody know what plugin i need for kafeeine (mms://ysj00ms01s0.aliant.net/CKCW)
[06:59] <alex_> Hawkwind: but how do I enable it?
[07:01] <Hawkwind> !repos > alex_
[07:01] <Hawkwind> alex_: Read what the bot pm'd  you
[07:01] <romeo> does anybody know what plugin i need in kaffeine  (mms://ysj00ms01s0.aliant.net/CKCW)
[07:02] <marshall_> hey guys
[07:02] <alex_> Hawkwind: refering to the fact that I cannot get it because it's not free?
[07:02] <danish> for su i enter my pass it say sorry
[07:03] <marshall_> is it easy to get xgl/aiglx/compiz working on kubuntu?
[07:03] <Hawkwind> alex_: Huh ?  It's absolutely free
[07:04] <Jucato> alex_:Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:05] <Xcalibur> I guess I am supposed to go here - http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?Installation
[07:06] <Xcalibur> omg
[07:06] <Xcalibur> this is SOSOO confusing
[07:06] <Hawkwind> If you just read and follow the site you'd find it's quite easy
[07:06] <marshall_> is it easy to get xgl/aiglx/compiz working on kubuntu?
[07:07] <alex_> Hawkwind: ok, I did that, added multiverse as stated in the link
[07:07] <alex_> Hawkwind: still the same error
[07:07] <alex_> I just typed in it and hit enter, it saved it there
[07:08] <Hawkwind> alex_: I'm heading to bed.  But paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin somewhere for someone like Jucato to see as he can help you
[07:08] <Jucato> alex_: which "multiverse" repositories did you  enabled...
[07:08] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Thanks.....See ya when I wake up in the morning :P
[07:08] <Jucato> rawr!! trying to escape are we Hawkwind?
[07:08] <alex_> Hawkwind: nevermind
[07:08] <Jucato> hehehe
[07:08] <alex_> Hawkwind: stupid me
[07:08] <alex_> Hawkwind: I forgot to update
[07:08] <alex_> :D
[07:08] <Jucato> :-D
[07:08] <Hawkwind> alex_: Hah!  I even reminded you of that just a few ago :P
[07:09] <alex_> I did that every step
[07:09] <alex_> excluding the last one
[07:09] <alex_> and that's what got me :(
[07:09] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I *am* escaping!   Good night :P
[07:09] <alex_> *bows head in shame*
[07:09] <alex_> Night Hawkwind
[07:09] <Hawkwind> alex_: Heh, we all do it from time to time
[07:09] <Hawkwind> alex_: Night man
[07:09] <Jucato> night Hawkwind
[07:09] <Jucato> sweet dreams!
[07:09] <alex_> Jucato: thanks for the help as well
[07:09] <Jucato> hope you dream of penguins. heheh!
[07:10] <Jucato> alex_: no problem. glad I could help (if I did..)
[07:10] <alex_> Jucato: you did ;)
[07:10] <Xcalibur> isn't there anyway for you guys to help me?
[07:11] <Jucato> Xcalibur: I'm so want to help you, only if I knew about wireless and stuff...
[07:11] <Jucato> it sucks not knowing things... :-(
[07:11] <Jucato> err.. s/I'm/I
[07:11] <Xcalibur> it sucks, that im done 2morrow man
[07:12] <Xcalibur> this guy is gonna bust this laptop over my heaaad
[07:14] <notech> Xcalibur: looked here? Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:15] <flaccid> !make
[07:15] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:17] <marshall_> is it easy to get xgl/aiglx/compiz working on kubuntu?
[07:17] <Jucato> marshall_: I think there are mixed results on that one...
[07:17] <flaccid> !knetstats
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetstats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <marshall_> Jucato:  oh damn it
[07:18] <marshall_> Jucato:  i love compiz and i love kde
[07:18] <marshall_> Jucato:  the only reason i stick with gnome is compiz
[07:18] <Jucato> marshall_: don't get me wrong. it's not impossible. I'm just saying that some were successful, some were not..
[07:18] <notech> marshall_: i'd consider it still beta, at best
[07:19] <marshall_> damnit
[07:19] <marshall_> but i love kubuntu
[07:20] <leonrott> hi
[07:20] <marshall_> konqueror is better than firefox and nautilus in like every way possible
[07:20] <marshall_> amarok is better than any gnome music player
[07:20] <marshall_> including listen
[07:20] <Jucato> (except in compatibility with some sites...)
[07:20] <notech> it'll probably be reasonably stable on the next release, as a guess
[07:20] <leonrott> i install xgl but the cube dont work
[07:20] <leonrott> i can change the number od desktops
[07:20] <Xcalibur> h/o
[07:20] <marshall_> quanta is a very sexy web authoring app
[07:20] <leonrott> i cant change the number of desktop
[07:22] <leonrott> hello i cant change the number of desktop with xgl
[07:22] <Jucato> leonrott: in XGL or in plain KDE?
[07:22] <leonrott> is xgl with kde
[07:22] <leonrott> but always shows 1 desktop
[07:22] <Jucato> oh...
[07:23] <leonrott> and i change to 4 and dont accept
[07:23] <notech> marshall_ & leonrott, might be able to get better answers in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:23] <leonrott> thanks
[07:26] <Xcalibur> ok
[07:26] <Xcalibur> I got it to recognize
[07:26] <Jucato> [ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[07:27] <Xcalibur> but, I goto enable the connection, and it disables etho0(wireless card), like 2 seconds after i enable it?
[07:28] <notech> try ifup eth0 in a terminal
[07:28] <notech> might give more info
[07:29] <Xcalibur> this is what happened
[07:29] <Xcalibur> ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[07:29] <Xcalibur> josh@josh-laptop:~$ sudo ifup etho0
[07:29] <Xcalibur> Password:
[07:29] <Xcalibur> Ignoring unknown interface etho0=etho0.
[07:29] <Xcalibur> what I do?
[07:29] <notech> you sure its etho0 and not just eth0?
[07:30] <Jucato> try "eth0"
[07:30] <Xcalibur> ok
[07:30] <Xcalibur> says it's already configured?
[07:31] <Xcalibur> what next?
[07:31] <notech> does ifconfig show eth0? and with a valid ip address?
[07:31] <cyanics> i am looking for a good volume applet for a kde updated version of dapper (not kubuntu, but kde install)
[07:31] <cyanics> Arts Control won't adjust the sound on my system
[07:32] <notech> kmix?
[07:32] <cyanics> not installed. let me apt it.
[07:32] <cyanics> thanks.
[07:32] <Xcalibur> nope, it displays eth0 and lo
[07:33] <Xcalibur> but eth0 in the terminal says it's the ethernet port?
[07:33] <notech> is it the wired ethernet port?
[07:34] <Xcalibur> yeah
[07:34] <Xcalibur> thats how I'm talking to you
[07:34] <flaccid> what package provides the make command?
[07:34] <notech> i'll take a guess and say ifup wlan0
[07:34] <flaccid> i guess its make
[07:35] <cyanics> notech, thanks. kmix does it.
[07:35] <Xcalibur> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.3
[07:35] <Xcalibur> Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium.
[07:35] <notech> cyanics: lucky guess heh
[07:35] <Xcalibur> All rights reserved.
[07:35] <Xcalibur> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP
[07:35] <Xcalibur> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[07:35] <Xcalibur> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:35] <Xcalibur> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:35] <Xcalibur> Bind socket to interface: No such device
[07:35] <Xcalibur> Failed to bring up wlan0
[07:35] <Jucato> Xcalibur: please use pastebin
[07:36] <Jucato> !pastebin
[07:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:36] <Xcalibur> o sorry
[07:36] <Jucato> :-D
[07:36] <Xcalibur> I keep forgeting
[07:36] <Xcalibur> lol
[07:36] <Xcalibur> but what i do netx, anyione?
[07:36] <Xcalibur> next*
[07:36] <flaccid> i get this with apt-get X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 why/
[07:36] <notech> Xcalibur: i dunno then. don't know what the interface is called. as a last guess see what ifconfig -a says about anything other than eth0 and lo
[07:37] <Xcalibur> i get eth1 eth0 lo and sit0
[07:38] <lmosher> I can't seem to win with totem. If I install totem-gstreamer I get no sound on .wmv files. If I install totem-xine I get sound on .wmv files, but nothing but black for most .mpgs. Any idea?
[07:38] <notech> i don't think your ndiswrapper driver is loaded
[07:38] <Xcalibur> how i do that?
[07:38] <Jucato> lmosher: totem?
[07:39] <notech> Xcalibur: did you follow this?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[07:40] <abercr0mbie> it seems as though my kubuntu install wont select start install
[07:41] <notech> i've never had a 'g' card or a need for ndiswrapper so i can't help much with those details Xcalibur
[07:41] <abercr0mbie> the CD will do anything else, but wont start the install
[07:41] <Xcalibur> omg
[07:41] <Jucato> nixternal: pardon the interruption, but has some of the KDE 3.5.4 bugs (that seem to be only present in Kubuntu) been squashed in Edgy?
[07:41] <Xcalibur> how I get the ndiswrapper-utils package?
[07:42] <nixternal> edgy and dapper don't share the same bugs with kde 3.5.4, so i guess, the answer would be yes
[07:42] <Jucato> nixternal: kool! thanks!
[07:42] <notech> Xcalibur: i see a link on the page
[07:43] <Jucato> nixternal: and btw, are you and niKsternal the same? :-D
[07:43] <Xcalibur> neither do i?
[07:43] <abercr0mbie> yay
[07:43] <abercr0mbie> kubuntu wont even install for me :-)
[07:43] <nixternal> ya
[07:43] <darintenb> yea, i'm having problems with that too
[07:43] <nixternal> niKsternal was me at school tonight
[07:43] <Jucato> nixternal: ooh... that explains it
[07:43] <darintenb> it starts to load off the cd, but then it stops at a black screen.. :(
[07:43] <notech> Xcalibur: in section 2.2 on that page
[07:43] <Jucato> abercr0mbie: nothing happens when you click on the Install icon?
[07:44] <abercr0mbie> Jucato: its on the kubuntu splash, i hit enter to start or install kubuntu
[07:44] <abercr0mbie> it flashes my cd rom
[07:44] <abercr0mbie> and does nothing.
[07:44] <darintenb> hmm. i guess i get farther then you.
[07:44] <darintenb> i boot from the cd, select install, and it loads stuff for a while.. but then just stops :(
[07:44] <Jucato> abercr0mbie: it could be due to many factors: a bad burn, a corrupted download, hardware compatibility(?)
[07:45] <notech> verified the md5sum of the iso before burning?
[07:45] <Jucato> like notech said, verify the md5sum of the ISO, then burn at the slowest speed supported by your CD writer, then try to verify after burning (most CD burning apps have that feature)
[07:46] <notech> gotta go, later folks
[07:46] <Jucato> You could also choose the "Check media" or something like that when you run the Desktop CD, to check if the CD is good...
[07:46] <kutan> -_-
[07:46] <Kream> hi al
[07:47] <kutan> Do I have to download uhhh
[07:47] <Xcalibur> I'm going to follow the instructions
[07:47] <Xcalibur> brb
[07:47] <kutan> stuff so I can watch an AVI?
[07:48] <kutan> cause when I load an avi in kaffeine, it plays but it's blank and it goes as if minutes are seconds
[07:48] <Kream> hi
[07:48] <Jucato> kutan: yes
[07:51] <Kream> hi all. i'm using openoffice on ubuntu. openoffice starts with hindi localised menu entries. unfortunately, the hindi menus are garbled and unreadable. how do i switch openoffice localised interfaces ?
[07:52] <Jucato> Kream: on Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[07:53] <Kream> kubuntu, sorry
[07:53] <Kream> am on konversation atm
[07:53] <yomerol> i need a chanel but in spanish, somebody can help me? how can i conect in one
[07:53] <Jucato> !es
[07:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:53] <yomerol> pefecto gracias
[07:54] <Jucato> Kream: I'm not sure, because I rarely use it. But I think you can go to the Tools menu > Options > Language Settings
[07:56] <darintenb> ah, i think i figured out what my problem was..
[07:56] <Jucato> would anyone know how I could make a Ctrl+Alt+Left-Click/Right-Click on the title bar of a window move that window into the next/previous desktop?
[07:56] <darintenb> i'm trying to load off of the cd and then install..
[07:57] <darintenb> but after a lot of loading, the screen always just goes black..
[07:57] <Xcalibur> I installed the drivers
[07:57] <darintenb> it seems it's trying to load the desktop in a resolution not supported by my monitor
[07:57] <Xcalibur> yay
[07:57] <Xcalibur> now, I shold just enable it?
[07:57] <Xcalibur> and it should work?
[07:57] <unix80486> Is there any thing i can download for better AMD 64 support?     any one know?
[07:58] <darintenb> i've tried loading from the safe mode, and setting the load options to a resolution supported by my monitor, but when it loads the gui, it always switches to a high res.. is there anyway i can change that?
[07:58] <unix80486> ???
[08:00] <romeo> hello again
[08:00] <romeo> how can tell if my firewall is up and running?
[08:01] <darintenb> is there any way i can set the resolution for the desktop gui before it loads? it's trying to load in a resolution that doesn't seem to be supported by my monitor
[08:02] <Jucato> darintenb: you can try this: when you get to the part where it "hangs", press Ctrl+Alt+F1, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop", then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and later choose your desired resolution, then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[08:03] <kutan> Hey what's the name of that one game... MotoX?
[08:03] <darintenb> great. i'll give it a shot now
[08:03] <Jucato> darintenb: good luck!
[08:03] <Jucato> going away..
[08:04] <darintenb> hm. no change.
[08:05] <darintenb> should i expect something to change on the screen when i press ctrl+alt+F1?
[08:05] <Xcalibur> yo
[08:06] <Xcalibur> I loaded the drivers
[08:06] <Xcalibur> but it still swtiches back to disabled right after i enable, should I reboot?
[08:06] <auto> hi
[08:07] <auto> who can help me??
[08:07] <Xcalibur> with?
[08:08] <auto> i try to connect in my home (kubuntu) with ssh but i cant
[08:09] <Xcalibur> I'm not so good with SSH, you will need to wait for someone with more expirience to accomodate you
[08:10] <CpuWhiz> you need the openssh-server package and you need to forward port 22 on your router to the machine you want to ssh into
[08:10] <auto> i have install sshd and change port in 20002. I use no-ip
[08:11] <CpuWhiz> ok, so what exacly is going wrong then
[08:11] <Xcalibur> if your not home, and you have remote management on, you can type in your IP, and port 8000 i think
[08:12] <auto> in my home pc with ssh angelaki@angelaki.no-ip.org -p 20002 take the error connection 20002 refuse
[08:13] <CpuWhiz> you changed the sshd config to listen on that port?
[08:13] <auto> from my work pc i cant take any message.
[08:13] <auto> yes
[08:13] <kutan> Ugh... when I try to play an AVI on kaffeine, it's blank and plays as if the minutes are seconds.
[08:14] <CpuWhiz> and your sure your router (if you have one) is forwarding the port to the right machine?
[08:15] <auto> yes i am sure
[08:16] <CpuWhiz> maybe a firewall rule?
[08:17] <Xcalibur> how can I setup my wireless card, I have the drivers installed, and i need to know how, without the stupid wireless amanager
[08:17] <Xcalibur> manager*
[08:18] <Kream> i'm using the hi_IN locale. when my openoffice starts up it looks like this: http://191a.net/garbled-oo.png . can someone tell me what the problem might be ?
[08:18] <Jucato> darintenb: yes, you should see a command prompt...
[08:18] <Xcalibur> ?
[08:18] <darintenb> hmm. okay..
[08:18] <Xcalibur> anyone?
[08:18] <darintenb> nothing comes up.. probably because the resolution isn't supported :) hehe
[08:19] <darintenb> oh well, i'll keep messing around with it. thanks :)
[08:19] <Jucato> darintenb: it should have nothing to do with the resolution that's being used by xorg, because it's a command prompt
[08:19] <darintenb> i c
[08:20] <Jucato> darintenb: I'm not familiar with the boot options in the Live CD, but maybe there's one there that says something like choosing VESA?
[08:20] <darintenb> hm..
[08:20] <darintenb> it tries to load the gui at 1280x1024 at 85hz
[08:20] <Xcalibur> well, wireless card inserted -> drivers installed -> enabled network interface, then suddenly without permission, it gets disabled?
[08:20] <Xcalibur> y?
[08:21] <Jucato> darintenb: try to change it to something supported by your monitor?
[08:21] <darintenb> which it seems my monitor can't do.. it was able to display the same resolution at 60hz though
[08:21] <darintenb> right. that's the problem. how do i do that..
[08:21] <Xcalibur> I'm gonna reboot
[08:21] <Jucato> darintenb: where did you see that it's trying to use that resolution?
[08:22] <darintenb> when i press the options button on the monitor it displays what resolution and stuff it is in
[08:22] <Jucato> Kream: try going to the (T) menu (tools) then the last option in that menu, which would be the Options
[08:27] <Xcalibur> yo
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[08:29] <atkaazm> is there an editor that allows editing and writting to the same file at the same time without messing up the contents?
[08:29] <Xcalibur> can someone plz tell me why my wireless card disables right as soon as I enable it?
[08:30] <Jucato> Kream: were you able to find it?
[08:30] <Xcalibur> ?
[08:31] <Xcalibur> plzz?
[08:31] <Xcalibur> anyone?
[08:31] <Kream> Jucato: one godlike user in the oo.o channel told me blind which menu to click, (third menu on the right, 4th widget on the left)
[08:31] <insanekane> atkaazm: ??
[08:31] <atkaazm> Xcalibur: Kream is a nickname :) and btw, did you check your logs? tail -f /var/log/messages  and enable it to see some msgs (maybe)
[08:31] <Jucato> Kream: ok. that'gs good
[08:31] <Xcalibur> ok
[08:31] <atkaazm> insanekane: ie. like vim, but only one file can be edited at a time
[08:32] <insanekane> atkaazm: what do you mean "like vim" ?
[08:32] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: it could be that linux senses a problem with the driver/card/etc, and automatically disables it to prevent a hardware malfunction.  although this is a complete guess
[08:32] <atkaazm> insanekane: an editor like 'vim' ie. the command 'vim' :)
[08:32] <insanekane> atkaazm: most editors allow you to edit files and save them
[08:32] <Xcalibur> well, the thing is, when I was running off of te liveCD, it was working fine
[08:33] <atkaazm> insanekane: yes, but i want an editor that can edit the same file at once from many instances(windows)
[08:33] <Xcalibur> and the card also worked with windows
[08:33] <insanekane> atkaazm: you should be more clear about that ...
[08:33] <Xcalibur> i think the error says link is not ready?
[08:34] <insanekane> atkaazm: anyway, kate doesnt allow that ... so i dont know
[08:34] <Jucato> !seen Hobbsee
[08:34] <ubotu> I last saw Hobbsee (n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee) 2h 33m 47s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[08:34] <Xcalibur> what should I do next?
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> atkaazm: aqll support, but if you change an opened file
[08:35] <Xcalibur> !wlan
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <atkaazm> insanekane: ok, example: i've the file one.cpp, and i run vim one.cpp in one terminal, then vim one.cpp in another terminal; the latter says the file is already opened and allows me to open it readonly, but i want to write to it, so i open it for write but if i change something in one.cpp from first terminal and save it, it won't be reflected on the second terminal and a new change on second terminal will undo my change from first terminal :-"
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> it asks what you want
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> reload from disk, stay it eec...
[08:35] <atkaazm> insanekane: kate is buggy afaik :P
[08:35] <insanekane> atkaazm: i got what you mean
[08:35] <insanekane> atkaazm: buggy in what sense ? it works for *all* my development work
[08:35] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: this is above me, sorry
[08:36] <Xcalibur> above you, aren't you guys like the geniuses of linux?
[08:36] <insanekane> atkaazm: you may want to try emacs ... dont know if it will support what you want though
[08:36] <Jucato> Xcalibur: most people here are just users like you
[08:36] <atkaazm> insanekane: well ok, i guess it isn't anymore, but the way i used it, it used to sigseg or smth after some while, or some things wouldn't work like i couldn't see the cursor anymore so had to restart (kate)
[08:36] <Xcalibur> o
[08:36] <insanekane> atkaazm: wierd ... hasnt ever happened to me
[08:36] <atkaazm> insanekane: ok i'll try that, thanks
[08:37] <Xcalibur> well, i posted on the forums, 5 views, but no replies
[08:37] <insanekane> Xcalibur: so ?
[08:37] <Jucato> Xcalibur: that doesn't mean that they purposely ignore your problem or purposely don't want to help
[08:37] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: i am definitely not a genius, i have my share of problems...
[08:37] <insanekane> Xcalibur: Canonical offers paid support btw so you might want to try there ... they sure are geniuses of linux
[08:37] <flaccid> !vnc
[08:37] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[08:37] <Jucato> it only means they looked at the problem and saw that it's something that they couldn't help with
[08:37] <atkaazm> insanekane: do you also have F7(i think) which has a konsole opened for you at all time ? (and I also had changed my colours such my background was black on the editor part too)
[08:37] <Xcalibur> I know
[08:38] <Xcalibur> srry for begging
[08:38] <Xcalibur> well, I'm broke
[08:38] <Xcalibur> so, I'm f******
[08:38] <atkaazm> MetaMorfoziS: i've no apt-cache search aqll results :/
[08:38] <flaccid> the vnc wiki says vncviewer is installed by default, but it doesn't appear to be
[08:38] <insanekane> Xcalibur: so sorry for you :P
[08:39] <insanekane> atkaazm: f7 ? if you mean yakuake
[08:39] <flaccid> and on the wiki it doesn't say how to install vncviewer
[08:39] <Jucato> yakuake uses F12 by default..
[08:39] <Lynoure> Xcalibur: build-in or external wireless card?
[08:40] <Xcalibur> wireless card
[08:40] <Xcalibur> well, 2morrow, I got 2 face a guy(6'10) about 250 lbs, and tell him, that his laptop can't give him wireless internet
[08:40] <Lynoure> Xcalibur: build-in or not?
[08:40] <Xcalibur> not
[08:40] <atkaazm> insanekane: f7 was afaik open a docked 'konsole' (in kate)
[08:40] <Xcalibur> I better drink b4 I tell him
[08:40] <flaccid> what protocol does krfb use?
[08:40] <flaccid> !krfb
[08:40] <ubotu> krfb: Desktop Sharing for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 913 kB, installed size 1632 kB
[08:41] <insanekane> atkaazm: ah in kate ... no i do not use konsole in kate
[08:41] <Jucato> Xcalibur: have you tried to install other distros?
[08:41] <Xcalibur> I like kubuntu
[08:41] <Jucato> they might have better support for your wireless card...
[08:41] <insanekane> Xcalibur: if you dont have the money, how will you drink ? :)
[08:41] <Lynoure> Xcalibur: oh, if it had been yours I could have possibly donated you a card that works
[08:42] <atkaazm> insanekane: it could have been that was one of the whys it caused undefined behaviour to me then :)
[08:42] <insanekane> atkaazm: hmm wierd ... konsole in kate does work well
[08:42] <flaccid> hmm i guess nobody can help me today
[08:42] <insanekane> !wireless
[08:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:42] <insanekane> !tell Xcalibur about wireless
[08:42] <Jucato> Xcalibur: you could try MEPIS 6. it's based on Ubuntu also
[08:43] <insanekane> Xcalibur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:43] <Xcalibur> I know this card works, I'm gonna go see if I should look for the driver provided by ndiswrapper
[08:43] <atkaazm> insanekane: it worked for me too, but only after some time (keeping kate open and with many files open!) caused some weird stuff to me; anyway they might have been fixed by now; i had ubuntu breezy then
[08:44] <insanekane> atkaazm: thats wierd too .. i have typically 20-30 files open
[08:45] <Xcalibur> well, what do ya know, it comes to find out, that you need a special program to use the specific card?
[08:46] <Xcalibur> lol
[08:46] <atkaazm> flaccid:
[08:46] <Xcalibur> I just found this out
[08:46] <atkaazm> flaccid:   KRfb is a small server for the RFB protocol, better known as VNC.
[08:46] <atkaazm> :-"
[08:46] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: enable/disable problem found.  good for you!
[08:46] <Xcalibur> lol
[08:47] <Xcalibur> omg
[08:47] <AndrukTatum> ?
[08:47] <Jucato> ...
[08:47] <Xcalibur> I was like sweating bullets
[08:47] <Xcalibur> lol
[08:47] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: are you american?
[08:47] <Xcalibur> yeah
[08:47] <Xcalibur> y?
[08:48] <atkaazm> labels like "do no eat" :)
[08:48] <atkaazm> insanekane: ok, thanks for everything
[08:48] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: i am too, and i could tell.  the purpose of all these IRC channels is to give people the tools they need to fix it themselves, not to fix it for them.  of course, sometimes, weird stuff happens, and these guys end up fixing problems outright
[08:49] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: so, a tip about using these channels-do your homework first
[08:49] <Jucato> ............
[08:49] <Xcalibur> ok
[08:49] <AndrukTatum> because, after all, it is free help, use it wisely
[08:49] <Jucato> (emphasis on the free?)
[08:50] <AndrukTatum> free/open source, its all good stuff anyway
[08:52] <AndrukTatum> wow...its really quiet
[08:53] <Jucato> ... people got tired asking for questions when nobody seems to answer them...
[08:53] <oslo> how cabn i launch kwalletmanager ?
[08:53] <oslo> can
[08:53] <Jucato> oslo: Alt+F2, "kwalletmanager"
[08:54] <AndrukTatum> anybody else have a question?
[08:54] <ketsugi> Ooh ooh me me
[08:54] <ketsugi> I have a question
[08:55] <ketsugi> Why does KDE kick so much ass!
[08:55] <ketsugi> >:D
[08:55] <oslo> Jucato> nothing append... with kwalletmanager
[08:55] <Jucato> oslo: a window didn't open? it's not in your system tray?
[08:55] <oslo> i saw is icon in the alt+F windows but when i execute it nothing happens
[08:56] <oslo> Jucato> it s not in my tray & not in a windows ..
[08:56] <kutan> Can someone help me?
[08:56] <Jucato> AndrukTatum: there you go! someone needs help :-D
[08:57] <oslo> Jucato> its ok i've done a killall kwalletmanager & kwalletmanager again now its OK , fine !
[08:57] <ketsugi> Nobody wants to answer my question :(
[08:57] <kutan> Because it just does? >_>
[08:57] <AndrukTatum> kutan: i might be able to help you, whats up?
[08:57] <Jucato> oslo: so everything's fine now?
[08:57] <AndrukTatum> ketsugi: kde kicks ass because knoppix kicks ass, you happy?  ;-)
[08:58] <ketsugi> But... but... I don't use Knoppix
[08:58] <kutan> Well I know I have plugins installed for kaffeine to watch AVI but when I load an AVI it shows up blank and the minutes go by like seconds
[08:59] <AndrukTatum> ketsugi: *sigh* i suppose kubuntu kicks ass too
[08:59] <ketsugi> I love the sound of that reluctance
[08:59] <AndrukTatum> kutan: have you tried the kaffeine website or channel?
[08:59] <Jucato> kutan: which plugins did you install?
[08:59] <kutan> Well they were already installed when I looked in adept
[08:59] <AndrukTatum> ketsugi: i use both ubuntu and kubuntu, and both kde and gnome have their strengths and weaknesses
[09:00] <ketsugi> Yeah they do
[09:00] <ketsugi> I just prefer KDE at the moment
[09:00] <Jucato> kutan: which ones? could you check if libxine-extracodecs is installed?
[09:00] <ketsugi> I was using Gnome for several months before switching
[09:00] <ketsugi> I really like how KDE apps have such customisable shortcuts
[09:00] <kutan> uh... that doesn't even show up
[09:00] <ketsugi> I just wish I could get all the multimedia buttons on my keyboard working; they worked nicely in Gnome
[09:01] <Jucato> kutan: so you don't have the codecs that you need.
[09:01] <AndrukTatum> ketsugi: i like the kicker myself
[09:01] <kutan> I guess not o_O
[09:01] <AndrukTatum> ketsugi: thats gnomes strength
[09:01] <oslo> Jucato> in fact no : kwallet is OK but i've lost my jabber password ...
[09:01] <kutan> What URL would I have to add to get that package?
[09:01] <Jucato> kutan: you need "libxine-extracodecs" from the multiverse repositories
[09:01] <oslo> its not in kwallet
[09:01] <Jucato> kutan:Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:01] <ketsugi> I don't like Konqueror though!
[09:01] <ketsugi> Not that I like Epiphany much either
[09:02] <Jucato> oslo: jabberin Kopete? just try to make it again and it will be saved
[09:02] <kutan> oh.. thanks
[09:02] <ketsugi> but I don't particularly like how Konqueror is a file manager AND a web browser
[09:02] <ketsugi> it reeks of IE6
[09:02] <flaccid> !samba
[09:02] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:02] <Jucato> well, Konqueror does things differently from IE6...
[09:03] <Jucato> btw, it's not Konqueror that's actually doing the web browsing...
[09:03] <oslo> Jucato> but i don't remember it !
[09:03] <Jucato> oslo: ok... that is a problem... I'm not familiar with Jabber, unfortunately...
[09:03] <oslo> ^^
[09:04] <AndrukTatum> yeah, like, (1) actually works, (2) doesnt open an infinite amount of security holes, (3) split screen functionality totally kicks ass, (4) tabbed browsing PWNs
[09:05] <AZ_AS> split screen? so I could browse two different directories using the split screen in Konqueror?
[09:05] <Jucato> you could add (5) not deeply integrated in to the OS/kernel (6) isn't really doing all things by itself and (7) absolutely customizable
[09:05] <Jucato> AZ_AS: yes
[09:05] <Jucato> Ctrl+Shift+L splits left and right, Ctrl+Shift+T splits top and bottom
[09:05] <AZ_AS> IE should be crying then ;)
[09:05] <Jucato> Ctrl+Shift+R closes the active view
[09:06] <AZ_AS> sweet, that would've helped a lot earlier
[09:06] <AndrukTatum> AZ_AS: heck yes it does
[09:06] <Jucato> I do wish that KHTML catches up with Gecko soon...
[09:07] <Xcalibur> well, I tried both cards, all the drivers, i think it has something to do with my kubuntu
[09:07] <AZ_AS> that's awesome...little things like that make me like linux more and more ;)
[09:07] <Xcalibur> I g2 sleep
[09:07] <Xcalibur> cya
[09:08] <Jucato> bye! hope you have better luck when you wake up
[09:08] <AndrukTatum> Jucato: bye
[09:08] <Jucato> er.. not me AndrukTatum
[09:08] <AndrukTatum> >.<
[09:08] <AndrukTatum> Xcalibur: you can try ndiswrapper tomorrow
[09:09] <AndrukTatum> so, anybody else got a question?
[09:10] <Jucato> hm...
[09:10] <_lupine> what! is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?!
[09:10] <_lupine> ;)
[09:11] <Jucato> I have one... does anyone know how I can make something like Ctrl+Alt+Left-click or Right-click on a window title bar to move that window to the next/previous desktop?
[09:12] <_lupine> actually, I seem to have lost the File... Settings... Help... etc. menu from Konq. Any idea how to get it back?
[09:12] <AndrukTatum> _lupine: im a physics major, but im only a sophomore.  but i think im going to make that a project and try to figure it out.
[09:12] <_lupine> ;)
[09:12] <AndrukTatum> lol
[09:12] <Jucato> _lupine: Ctrl+M?
[09:12] <_lupine> Monty Python got there a long time before...
[09:12] <_lupine> aha! it works. Thanks Jucato
[09:12] <_lupine> noe maybe I should get to bed
[09:12] <_lupine> now*
[09:12] <Jucato> heheh! I always have those menus hidden...
[09:13] <Jucato> waste of vertical space when I so rarely use them...
[09:13] <AndrukTatum> tru dat
[09:14] <josef> hello i need  help
[09:15] <yannux> hello :)
[09:15] <Jucato> and now with Configure Konqueror and Configure Shortcuts mapped to shortcut keys, I have 2 less reasons to use the menus. lol
[09:15] <Jucato> ask away
[09:15] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:16] <josef> guys i need help to install firefox in kubuntu 6.06
[09:17] <Jucato> josef: you can use Adept or Adept Installer (the Add/Remove Programs in the K Menu) to install that
[09:18] <josef> how can i use adept i open already adept
[09:18] <Jucato> josef: what do you mean?
[09:20] <josef> i open adept installer and clicked on internet what i got is the programs that is already installed
[09:21] <Jucato> josef: in Adept Installer change "KDE" to "Any Suite" in the drop-down options near the top (beside
[09:21] <Jucato> (beside "Search")
[09:21] <josef> OK and then
[09:21] <josef> I got it
[09:21] <Jucato> saw it?
[09:22] <josef> yes but is not enabled i mean its still grey
[09:22] <Jucato> ah... ok.. close Adept Installer first...
[09:23] <josef> ok
[09:23] <Jucato> then go to K Menu > System and open Adept
[09:23] <josef> ok
[09:23] <Jucato> then go to the Adept menu (first one at the top) then select Manage Repositories
[09:24] <josef> ok
[09:24] <Jucato> btw, josef, is this a new installation of Kubuntu?
[09:24] <Jucato> and where did you get the CD? downloaded it just very recently?
[09:24] <josef> yes on dvd  version 6.06 lts
[09:24] <Jucato> josef: oh, 6.06? not 6.06.1?
[09:25] <josef>  i dont know i ask them to sended what i know is it a kubuntu dapper
[09:25] <Jucato> anyway...
[09:26] <Jucato> ok, you will see some grayed out lines
[09:26] <josef> yes
[09:26] <Jucato> I will give you some lines that you need to enable, by right-clicking and selecting enable
[09:26] <josef> ok
[09:26] <Jucato> "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted"
[09:27] <Jucato> (xx = uk. or us. or au.,etc.
[09:27] <josef> should i add it in the new repository
[09:27] <Jucato> no
[09:27] <josef> ok to search
[09:27] <Jucato> just look for the line and enable it if it's grayed out
[09:28] <[Nige] > hi all
[09:28] <Jucato> "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted"
[09:28] <Jucato> and
[09:28] <Jucato> "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted"
[09:29] <Jucato> the line with "dapper-security" might be missing the word "restricted", you have to add it by clicking on the word "main" and adding "restricted" so that it would look like "main restricted"
[09:30] <josef> ok wait
[09:30] <Jucato> wb nixternal!
[09:32] <josef> ok the second line
[09:32] <nixternal> yay
[09:32] <nixternal> thanks ;)
[09:32] <josef> the second line is the too right
[09:33] <josef>  the second line is the same too right
[09:35] <leonrott> hi
[09:36] <josef> <jucato
[09:36] <Jucato> yep?
[09:36] <josef> how about the second line
[09:37] <josef> should i enable it
[09:37] <Jucato> don't enable the "deb-src" stuff
[09:37] <josef> ok only the deb
[09:38] <AZ_AS> what's the deb-src for?
[09:38] <Jucato> AZ_AS: deb-src contains the source code for the packages in the repositories
[09:39] <AZ_AS> so why disable?
[09:39] <Jucato> unless you need to download the source code
[09:39] <josef> jucato enable only with the deb
[09:40] <josef> right or should i change it again
[09:40] <Jucato> yep. did you check if the line with "dapper-security" has both "main" and "restricted" ?
[09:40] <Jucato> josef: just leave them enabled (not graye out)
[09:40] <josef> yes i added restricted bihind main
[09:41] <Jucato> josef: ok. now click on Apply at the bottom, then on Fetch Updates at the top
[09:41] <josef> ok i enable it already
[09:41] <josef> ok
[09:42] <josef> its in progress now
[09:42] <Jucato> it's going to update now. and you'll be able to install firefox now
[09:42] <josef> ok i will try it thanks alot jucato
[09:42] <steveo> hey people
[09:45] <steveo> can someone please tell me whats the most recent server to use for my repositories
[09:45] <steveo> i wanna upgrade my software
[09:45] <Jucato> steveo: right now, they all have the same contents
[09:48] <Jucato> going away...
[09:49] <oslo> yelling away ?
[09:52] <IsleVegan> i cannot figure out how to make dial up networking work through bluetooth, it seems that kubuntu sees my bluetooth hardware, though. in addition, kubuntu crashes when i try to activate my wifi hardware.
[09:52] <IsleVegan> so, no net options :-(
[09:52] <IsleVegan> can't update the os, get drivers, etc. stuck in windows
[09:56] <IsleVegan> Realtek RTL8185 Wireless LAN (Mini-) PCI NIC
[09:58] <IsleVegan> Broadcom 2045 Bluetooth 2.0 USB Device
[10:00] <IsleVegan> Windows Driver / Provider listed as WIDCOMM
[10:04] <josef> jucato
[10:04] <madman__> !bluetooth
[10:04] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:05] <josef> jucato are u still there
[10:05] <madman__> !wireless
[10:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:05] <IsleVegan> madman, mahalo
[10:10] <Jucato> josef: just got back...
[10:12] <steveo> hey people can someone tell me whats a good Dvd compressor
[10:12] <steveo> i wanna ccompress dvds like how Dvd shrink does
[10:12] <josef> jucato yes i tried to istall firefox but it couldnt commit in adept installer
[10:12] <steveo> so i can fit a 8gig dvd onto a 4.3 gig dvd
[10:12] <madman__> steveo: looking now
[10:13] <steveo> thanks buddy
[10:13] <jott_> !info k9copy
[10:13] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 288 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[10:13] <Jucato> josef: what does it say when you try to click on  Apply Changes?
[10:14] <josef> wait
[10:15] <josef> it couldnt commit and and it was sometihing with breaking the packages
[10:17] <josef> Jucato i got visitor i will come back later ok
[10:17] <Jucato> ok
[10:19] <Jucato> Hobbsee!!! (didn't see you come in...)
[10:20] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[10:20] <Jucato> ^_^
[10:22] <madman__> steveo: not sure about this
[10:23] <leninia> hola
[10:24] <ubuntu> helo guys
[10:24] <Jucato> hi
[10:24] <madman__> !dvd
[10:24] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:24] <steveo> yeh its cool
[10:24] <ubuntu> i need some help
[10:24] <steveo> ive got more problems though
[10:25] <ubuntu> regarding ubuntu
[10:25] <ubuntu> anyone?
[10:25] <madman__> !anyone
[10:25] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:25] <Jucato> ehehe
[10:25] <ubuntu> well i have kububuntu and suse 9.1 personal
[10:25] <ubuntu> i want to learn linux
[10:25] <ubuntu> the commands and stuff
[10:25] <ubuntu> which one should i go with?
[10:26] <madman__> ubuntu: have you been reading the help files ?
[10:26] <ubuntu> well i have a book on suse
[10:26] <steveo> my xine, kaffeine and amarok isnt working. It's saying that i need all these lib files
[10:26] <ubuntu> and an ebook on ubuntu
[10:26] <steveo> and wont play and music or videos
[10:26] <Jucato> which one should you go with? either will do, if you're trying to learn about the command line
[10:26] <ubuntu> is kde better or gnome?
[10:27] <Jucato> it depends on personal choice. but since you asked in #kubuntu, a KDE-based distro...
[10:27] <mkquist> lol
[10:27] <ubuntu> lol
[10:27] <mkquist> kde gots more eye candy
[10:27] <ubuntu> oh
[10:27] <ubuntu> then of course its better
[10:27] <ubuntu> is there any way
[10:27] <ubuntu> ?
[10:27] <Jucato> except that XGL/Compiz seems to be work better in GNOME...
[10:28] <mkquist> gnome better on my old machine
[10:28] <AZ_AS> only way is through trial/error :)
[10:28] <ubuntu> in which i can make the kubuntu startup more interactive?
[10:28] <ubuntu> i mean
[10:28] <Jucato> Xfce works better on even older machines ehehe
[10:28] <ubuntu> remove the text stuff and add some graphics?
[10:28] <Jucato> ubuntu: the one where you see the kubuntu logo and some scrolling text when you boot?
[10:29] <ubuntu> yeah yeah
[10:29] <ubuntu> exactly
[10:29] <ubuntu> :D
[10:29] <Jucato> sorry, but that has nothing to do with KDE... :-D
[10:29] <mkquist> jucato - is Xfce more basic than gnome?
[10:29] <ubuntu> oj
[10:29] <ubuntu> oh
[10:29] <Jucato> that's something Kubuntu/Ubuntu has done...
[10:29] <ubuntu> what is this Xgl?
[10:29] <Jucato> mkquist: it's lighter, if that's what you mean. but they both use GTK
[10:29] <ubuntu> i have a CD that says
[10:29] <ubuntu> Kororaa Xgl Live CD
[10:30] <ubuntu> ?
[10:30] <mkquist> ic
[10:30] <Jucato> err... don't bother with it yet, if you're just beginning in Linux...
[10:30] <ubuntu> lol
[10:30] <ubuntu> is it something good?
[10:30] <ubuntu> i mean
[10:30] <ubuntu> eye candy?
[10:30] <ubuntu> lol
[10:30] <Jucato> definitely eye candy
[10:30] <ubuntu> oh
[10:30] <ubuntu> so is it a linux distro only
[10:30] <ubuntu> or it runs on top of linux distros?
[10:30] <Jucato> it's not a distro
[10:31] <ubuntu> ohk
[10:31] <ubuntu> i m new to linux
[10:31] <ubuntu> just 3 days
[10:31] <ubuntu> and i m begining to like it
[10:31] <flaccid> how can i stop the acpd from ever running itself?
[10:32] <Jucato> welcome to our world...
[10:32] <mkquist> nice world
[10:32] <mkquist> once u get into the learning curve
[10:32] <ubuntu> thanks :D
[10:32] <ubuntu> but isnt it difficult?
[10:32] <ubuntu> i mean
[10:33] <Jucato> the learning curve isn't that high. specially since you started with Kubuntu or SUSE
[10:33] <ubuntu> i cant play my Mp3s
[10:33] <ubuntu> oh i see
[10:33] <mkquist> no, its really not that bad w/this distro
[10:33] <Jucato> oh.. this is a trademark of Kubuntu/Ubuntu... no out of the box support for what we consider proprietary or restricted formats/codecs/plugins...
[10:33] <ubuntu> oh
[10:34] <Jucato> !restricted
[10:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:34] <ubuntu> oh thanks
[10:34] <ubuntu> so u support free software
[10:34] <ubuntu> that is nice
[10:34] <Jucato> that page about RestrictedFormats explains some stuff
[10:34] <Jucato> of course. Ubuntu is committed to free software
[10:34] <mkquist> u can still play ur mp3s.... =)
[10:34] <ubuntu> well software is meant to be free
[10:34] <ubuntu> that is why i left windows xp
[10:34] <ubuntu> :D
[10:35] <flaccid> w00t w00t
[10:35] <flaccid> its all good cept nobody today can help with my problems lol
[10:35] <mkquist> picture software running across a grassy plain
[10:35] <flaccid> but i fixed em myself
[10:35] <Jucato> ... grassy plain, naked....
[10:35] <mkquist> in herds
[10:35] <mkquist> lol
[10:35] <ubuntu> lol
[10:35] <Hobbsee> Jucato: not what we consider free.  what's under the GPL, so freely distributable.
[10:35] <ubuntu> so what do u geeks suggest?
[10:36] <ubuntu> should i instal kubuntu or SUse/
[10:36] <ubuntu> ?
[10:36] <IsleVegan> lol
[10:36] <Jucato> Hobbsee: point
[10:36] <ubuntu> eye candy is important
[10:36] <ubuntu> :D
[10:36] <ubuntu> i have to impress my girlfriends
[10:36] <ubuntu> i m just 1t
[10:36] <ubuntu> 17
[10:36] <ubuntu> lol
[10:36] <Jucato> flaccid: ain't the feeling just wonderful? being able to fix your own problem after hours of trying to solve it?
[10:36] <mkquist> its kinda nice, in my opinion, kubuntu gots nice eyecandy, and bouncy icons...
[10:36] <Hobbsee> ubuntu: either.  suse is very polished, but it does use rpm, and is hard to upgrade
[10:36] <mkquist> eyecandy that is
[10:36] <ubuntu> oh
[10:37] <Hobbsee> ubuntu: you wont impress your girlfriends like that, you know
[10:37] <ubuntu> lol
[10:37] <ubuntu> well they did get impressed
[10:37] <Jucato> did he just say "girlfriends"? with an "s"?
[10:37] <ubuntu> seeing all the text scrolling
[10:37] <ubuntu> lol
[10:37] <ubuntu> yeah
[10:37] <ubuntu> :D
[10:37] <mkquist> what kinda girlfriends? impressed by ur desktop?
[10:37] <ubuntu> with a 's'
[10:37] <ubuntu> :D
[10:37] <ubuntu> yeah
[10:37] <ubuntu> since
[10:37] <Jucato> ...
[10:37] <ubuntu> everyone is used to seeing windows
[10:37] <ubuntu> this looked geeky
[10:37] <ubuntu> :D
[10:38] <ubuntu> especially
[10:38] <mkquist> my what a pretty desktop... will you goto bed with me...
[10:38] <mkquist> lol
[10:38] <Jucato> I'll be waiting for yor reaction when they start begging you to install it on their computers...
[10:38] <ubuntu> lol
[10:38] <ubuntu> wel i really think this rocs
[10:38] <ubuntu> *rocks
[10:38] <ubuntu> cause
[10:38] <ubuntu> its soo stable
[10:38] <mkquist> ur using kde or gnome?
[10:38] <ubuntu> i m using Kubuntu
[10:39] <ubuntu> Live CD at present
[10:39] <ubuntu> KDE
[10:39] <Jucato> ubuntu, would it be possible if you could  stop typing one word/phrase per line?? :-D
[10:39] <mkquist> !enter
[10:39] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:39] <ubuntu> sorry. wont happen again. actually i m not used to IRC. my apologies.
[10:39] <Jucato> hm.. never knew that about ubotu
[10:39] <mkquist> lol
[10:39] <mkquist> !uboto
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <mkquist> !ubotu
[10:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:40] <ubuntu> yeah. i m used to yahoo messenger. but this irc is good. technical stuff.
[10:40] <Jucato> IRC wasn't always about technical stuff...
[10:40] <Jucato> some channels are....
[10:41] <Jucato> well at least Freenode channels are more sane....
[10:41] <ubuntu> well. since i m in the rite channel.actually i feel that yahoo chat rooms are full of romance and stuff.
[10:41] <mkquist> ~jucato...flashing back
[10:41] <ubuntu> which really sucks. i joined the computers channel in yahoo. and someone asked me my asl.
[10:41] <Jucato> ubuntu: you just haven't found the right channel for that stuff. ehehehe
[10:41] <ubuntu> cant get any worse than this.
[10:41] <mkquist> lol, well that so important for tech matters... uno...hehe
[10:42] <mkquist> #romance
[10:42] <ubuntu> lol. really. i was surprised. i was asking something related to drivers. and this guy or girls asks me my asl
[10:42] <Jucato> heheh...
[10:43] <ubuntu> can anyone suggest a nice tutorial on how to install firefox and gaim on Kubuntu
[10:43] <Jucato> gaim....
[10:43] <mkquist> apt-get install?
[10:43] <Jucato> btw, you could also try Kopete, which is also an IM client
[10:43] <ubuntu> aahann. actually the client supplied with Kubunut is not good. i m used to gaim
[10:43] <Jucato> Kopete is the GAIM of KDE
[10:44] <Jucato> aaah
[10:44] <ubuntu> yeah. i tried that. dont feel at home while using it. lol
[10:45] <mkquist> ive got gaim on kde
[10:45] <Jucato> hehehe!
[10:45] <Jucato> the only reason I would use GAIM is because of a certain plugin...
[10:45] <ubuntu> lol. anyways guys. thansk for ur help. i have to leave now. see you around later!
[10:45] <ubuntu> thank you so much. have a nice day.
[10:45] <Jucato> ubuntu:
[10:45] <mkquist> later ubuntu
[10:46] <Jucato> you might want to read the Kubuntu Desktop Guide
[10:46] <ubuntu> ahaan.
[10:46] <Jucato> it's in K Menu > Help > Kubuntu Documents
[10:46] <Jucato> ok.. I think we've wandered quite far...
[10:47] <mkquist> ill say
[10:48] <Jucato> but we need order sometimes...
[10:48] <grizzly> doing a reinstall, sugesst a few files that could be backed up except: sources, grub settings, /etc/passwd , fstab, the ~ folder , startkde, apt archives
[10:48] <grizzly> theses are already done
[10:49] <DHGE> grizzly: look into your /var structure
[10:49] <grizzly> ok, but what to look for ?
[10:49] <DHGE> I look for my personal website e.g.
[10:50] <grizzly> k, thanks
[10:51] <DHGE> compressed /etc is < 2 MB
[10:51] <Jucato> that would work if he had a personal website...
[10:52] <grizzly> DHGE: oh I didn't know that /etc thing. thx
[10:52] <grizzly> but will just overwriting old /etc in new installation be a good idea?
[10:53] <DHGE> grizzly: I backup as root (from cron jobs) with RIGHTS preserved (that eases restore later ;-) )
[10:54] <grizzly> anyway to backup and restore custom kernel ( suspend2 thing installed from someones deb files)
[10:55] <DHGE> backup the kernel-config file for a "make oldconfig" on rebuild
[10:55] <grizzly> ok I am reintslling now!! see ya
[10:55] <grizzly> wait
[10:55] <grizzly> didn't get that , sry
[10:56] <DHGE> ls /boot/config*
[10:58] <grizzly> ok will try that, currently me is on win. c ya
[10:58] <DHGE> dpkg --get-selections | grep -w install$ > siemens-selection
[10:58] <DHGE> to get your sw back
[10:58] <DHGE> dpkg --set-selections < rechner-selection && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[11:01] <blshkv_> hi, how to install  libxine-extracodecs?
[11:02] <Jucato> blshkv_: you need to enable multiverse:Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:03] <blshkv_> Jucato: I enabled some of them. Let me double check. Thanks
[11:03] <Jucato> make sure that "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse" is the one with "multiverse", not just dapper-backports
[11:04] <blshkv_> ah, you are right. I don't have pure multiverse ..
[11:05] <atidem> hi
[11:05] <blshkv_> Jucato: thanks :)
[11:07] <ore05108> is the sun-java5-bin pacakge broken?
[11:07] <ore05108> Or was, yesterday
[11:08] <flaccid> !acpi
[11:08] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[11:08] <ore05108> I need the jdk and it fails at the bin configuration
[11:08] <flaccid> !acpid
[11:08] <ubotu> acpid: Utilities for using ACPI power management. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu11 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 200 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[11:10] <blshkv_> Jucato this is really not easy for begginers..
[11:11] <Jucato> which one?
[11:11] <blshkv_> to add mpeg codecs for amarok..
[11:11] <Jucato> oh...
[11:11] <blshkv_> my father 60 years old wondering why it's so complicated ..
[11:11] <Jucato> there are scripts to make that easier, like Automatix or EasyUbuntu
[11:11] <blshkv_> wow, I didn't know that..
[11:11] <blshkv_> thanks
[11:11] <mkquist> try automatix
[11:11] <Jucato> !automatix
[11:11] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:11] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[11:11] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:12] <blshkv_> cool :)
[11:12] <Jucato> Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[11:12] <Jucato> blshkv_: I guess you have to know why Ubuntu/Kubuntu doesn't have these things out of the box
[11:13] <blshkv_> Jucato: yeh.. but amarok should tell me that I don't have it!
[11:13] <_lupine> amarok 1.4.2 does :)
[11:13] <Jucato> blshkv_: I think they're fixing that
[11:13] <Jucato> or have fixed it...
[11:13] <blshkv_> :)
[11:13] <mkquist> doesnt it say that it cannot play that type of file?
[11:13] <blshkv_> we'll see in the next version..
[11:13] <Jucato> mkquist: but doesn't say what you need
[11:13] <blshkv_> mkquist: no :(
[11:14] <mkquist> oh, maybe in the next then
[11:14] <blshkv_> it's just skips mp3 file..
[11:14] <_lupine> 1.4.2 says "you need blah to play this file. Press OK to d/l and install from the repos"... or something
[11:14] <flaccid> show can i search my source list with a keyword to find available packages with apt-get?
[11:14] <flaccid> show=how
[11:15] <mkquist> lupine - is that the most current one?
[11:15] <Jucato> flaccid: apt-cache search <search_pattern>
[11:15] <Jucato> flaccid: you could also use Konqueror for that, type in "apt in Konqueror
[11:15] <flaccid> thanks Jucato
[11:15] <_lupine> more current than what's in kubuntu by default, but there is a repo somewhere
[11:16] <Jucato> !amarok
[11:16] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[11:16] <Jucato> packaged and signed by imbrandon, a Kubuntu dev
[11:16] <flaccid> Jucato: i get
[11:17] <blshkv_> _lupine good..
[11:17] <Jucato> flaccid: oh sorry..
[11:17] <Jucato> flaccid: apt:/
[11:17] <flaccid> thanks
[11:18] <flaccid> thats mad ty Jucato
[11:18] <kraut> moin
[11:20] <flaccid> Jucato: i do a dpkg -l vnc and it only shows vnc package which i didn't think existed and doesnt show other vnc packages
[11:21] <flaccid> i definately have the xtightvncviewer installed
[11:21] <Jucato> dpkg -l | grep -i vnc
[11:22] <blshkv_> guys, how to change language of english interface?
[11:22] <blshkv_> i've isntall laguage-pack already
[11:22] <jott_> flaccid: for a vnc/rdp client you could also try krdc
[11:24] <cedric> slt a tous
[11:24] <Jucato> !fr
[11:24] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:26] <Jucato> anyone here has any experience about compiling a kernel and still be able to use NVIDIA drivers?
[11:26] <jott_> Jucato: should work when you use the official nvidia installer...
[11:26] <aliasfred> q. is there a way to search files by their hash output in google ? like by their sha1 or md5 ?
[11:27] <Jucato> jott_: oh, thanks!
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: Yep that is not a problem
[11:27] <Jucato> hi h3sp4wn! haven't seen you in a while
[11:27] <blshkv_> !ru
[11:27] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:28] <flaccid> Jucato: thats weird. i don't see uppercase in the package names..
[11:28] <flaccid> works but ty
[11:28] <Jucato> flaccid: nah, I just put the -i just in case
[11:28] <Jucato> lol
[11:29] <jott> dpkg also supports wildcards btw ;) like dpkg -l "*vnc*"
[11:29] <flaccid> ah thats cool
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: You can apt-get source nvidia-graphics-drivers (from sid) and get nvidia-kernel-source from sid (and then just unzip nvidia-kernel-source.tar.gz into /usr/src then when you do modules_image you get a deb for the kernel module
[11:29] <flaccid> i just don't understand why -i was required when the packages are lower case
[11:30] <Jucato> flaccid: I always add -i... second nature, I guess...
[11:31] <flaccid> yeah i try not to when i know that its not case, but yeah ur right
[11:33] <yoram> remove safetly usb stick
[11:37] <buz> !jingle
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jingle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <buz> is there a kopete dapper deb with jingle?
[11:52] <josef> hello
[11:52] <Jucato> hi
[11:52] <Jucato> ready to work again?
[11:52] <josef> hi its work already the firefox
[11:53] <Jucato> nice
[11:53] <josef> my cousin fixed for me.
[11:53] <Jucato> hehe good
[11:53] <ninHer> hi @ll
[11:53] <josef> but i forget something to ask him so i ask you
[11:53] <josef> hi
[11:53] <Jucato> :-D
[11:55] <josef> i tried to play mp3 I browsed thu the websites and still i got nothing how do i install it. even in adept installer the gstreamers are still grey...
[11:55] <mcdoil> salut
[11:55] <Jucato> josef: you need "libxine" extracodecs, from the multiverse repository this time
[11:55] <Jucato> josef:Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:55] <Jucato> josef: err. "libxine-extracodecs"
[11:55] <mcdoil> is a english room only ?
[11:56] <josef> ok i will click the link that you gave me
[11:56] <Jucato> mcdoil: well, yes. are you looking for a local kubuntu channel?
[11:57] <mcdoil> join #(k)ubuntu-fr
[11:57] <Jucato> !fr
[11:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:57] <mcdoil> yes i want to join this #(k)ubuntu-fr
[11:58] <mcdoil> how do i do ?
[11:58] <AZ_AS> type /join #kubuntu-fr
[11:58] <Jucato> !fr
[12:00] <josef> jucato i have to try it out the link that you gave me i will come back later..THANKS ALOT
[12:03] <Jucato> hm.. how do you use gestures in KDE/Konqueror?
[12:04] <jott> Jucato: enable them/set them up in the control panel
[12:05] <Jucato> jott: I have a few Konqeror gestures enabled. how do I use them? sorry, I'm completely new to this mouse gestures thing...
[12:05] <jott> Jucato: i think the default button was middle ..but not sure..
[12:05] <TehKewl1> why is adept not updating?
[12:05] <Jucato> hm.. I set the middle button for smooth scrolling...
[12:06] <jott> in control panel regional&accessiblity -> input action press "global settings"
[12:06] <Jucato> TehKewl1: what do you mean?.
[12:06] <jott> there is "gesture settings"
[12:06] <Jucato> oh ok thanks
[12:06] <TehKewl1> I click fetch updates and it doesn't download anything
[12:06] <Jucato> jott: kool! thanks!!
[12:07] <jott> (this button for getting to global settings is rather confusing usability wise when i think about it)
[12:07] <Jucato> ehehehe
[12:07] <Jucato> well, at least it's there... @_@
[12:07] <jott> hehe true ;)
[12:08] <Jucato> TehKewl1: are your repositories enabled?
[12:08] <TehKewl1> I'll go check
[12:09] <TehKewl1> uhh, how do I do that
[12:10] <Jucato> TehKewl1: in the Adept menu, select Manage Repositories. you will see some gray lines
[12:10] <Jucato> right-click and select Enable on the lines that start with "deb" (not "deb-src") EXCEPT the line that has "dapper-backports"
[12:10] <TehKewl1> oh oh I fixed it
[12:11] <Jucato> click on Apply at the bottom, then on Fetch Updates
[12:13] <mkquist> anyone here running corel for linux?
[12:39] <grizzly> I can conenct to irc, do apt-get update, but cannot browse!! did a reinstall except the ~ folder , but the problem persists!! It was working fine earlier.
[12:40] <grizzly> So the problem must be in the ~ folder. What could be the problem ?
[12:40] <grizzly> Tried multiple browsers
[12:45] <grizzly> btw is it even possible that the problem is in the ~ folder ?
[12:45] <jorik> grizzly: not likely
[12:45] <grizzly> hmm
[12:45] <jorik> maybe your ISP needs a http proxy
[12:46] <jorik> (my old one did, windows auto detected it but linux --at the time, 5 yrs ago-- didnt)
[12:46] <grizzly> ok I'll ask
[12:46] <jorik> i dunno how it's doin right now, i suggest readin your ISP's manual ... if you can't connect to any port 80 server (eg not thru telnet either), it's probably that
[12:48] <grizzly> jorik: Another thing is that sometimes suddenly it would open a page!!
[12:48] <flaccid> !kacpid
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kacpid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <grizzly> like right ow it opened google, but then refused to budge :lol:
[12:48] <jorik> add
[12:48] <jorik> odd*
[12:48] <jorik> that probably means it's not the HTTP proxy
[12:49] <jorik> did you try diffrent browsers ? (konqueror, opera, firefox ...)
[12:49] <grizzly> damn, I haven't tried the livecd yet !!
[12:49] <grizzly> yup, even lynx
[12:49] <Healot> grizzly: where you trying to get the same site on all the browsers?
[12:49] <flaccid> did you port scan port 80 on isp gateway/proxy
[12:50] <IceKnight> grizzly, try using konqueror to view something local -- just to see what happens.
[12:50] <grizzly> flaccid: how did you know that ??
[12:50] <flaccid> just a suggestion...
[12:50] <grizzly> flaccid: I was playing ( learnig nmap)
[12:50] <flaccid> ah ok
[12:51] <grizzly> Healot: NO no different
[12:51] <grizzly> IceKnight: tried  , it works
[12:52] <grizzly> I'll try the live cd first. Thanks
[01:02] <Kabal> Guys I've made a mistake by trying to install gpar2.
[01:02] <Kabal> Now I want to remove the app but it won't uninstall.. here the details: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22136
[01:02] <Kabal> What can I do to remove this app?
[01:03] <Kabal> I want to remove another app also.. but this is not gonna happen cuz this prob is here.. :(
[01:04] <Healot> sudo apt-get -f install >> fix your installation first
[01:05] <Kabal> Healot: tried it and I got same result
[01:05] <Healot> tried again?
[01:06] <Kabal> three times now.. still same result
[01:06] <Healot> re-install and remove the package...
[01:07] <Kabal> oke but this prog is for gnome.. don't have it.. that's why it won't install.. but it also won't uninstall
[01:08] <Kabal> WHen I installed gpar2 it asked to install gnome desktop.. And I refused so I didn't continue the install..
[01:09] <Healot> just force remove it, man apt-get for forced removaL :_)
[01:09] <Kabal> this is a horrible problem..
[01:10] <_thumper_> hi all
[01:10] <_thumper_> anyone have any idea why sound won't work any more on my vaio?
[01:10] <Healot> yeah, may the force (force remove switch) be with youi
[01:10] <_thumper_> worked on install, but now nothing
[01:10] <tobias> Hi! For the second time now I tried to resolve all dependency-problems on my system, but it just is impossible. I cannot compile programs because of it. I always need some other 'xy-dev' file containing headers or similar. Whenever I try to resolve those dependencies, I get queried to install a bunch of other libs... But the install doesn't work because of some version differences bewteen 'now' and 'dapper' versions. When I try to 
[01:10] <tobias> re needed to be uninstalled -> that I can't do! Any hint? (sorry for long post...)
[01:10] <_thumper_> going through the system settings, sound
[01:10] <_thumper_> and setting to autodetect and restart
[01:10] <_thumper_> restart didn't
[01:11] <_thumper_> went up to 95% and then started again at 5
[01:11] <_thumper_> had to kill it
[01:11] <_thumper_> is there something specific I could look for in /var/log/messages?
[01:15] <Kabal> well man gives me alot of options.. but can't remove the app whatsoever :S
[01:17] <Kabal> -f --purge etc won't work
[01:17] <Kabal> and Adept won't remove the app also..
[01:28] <cox377> does anyone here know about fstab?
[01:37] <Kabal> whatever I try.. I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22136
[01:46] <_thumper_> ok
[01:46] <_thumper_> regarding sound
[01:46] <_thumper_> it isn't that it isn't working
[01:46] <_thumper_> just not though the headphone jack
[01:46] <_thumper_> ideas anyone?
[01:46] <_thumper_> headphones do work - used with iriver
[01:46] <_thumper_> headphone jack works in windows
[01:57] <h3sp4wn> _thumper_: try sudo alsamixer have a mess around in there
[02:02] <xanax`> hello
[02:04] <mkquist> cox377-what about it?
[02:05] <mkquist> cox377 - fstab?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> didnt kscreensaver settings used to be in sys settings?
[02:07] <Jucato> gnomefreak: System Settings > Desktop > Screensaver ??
[02:07] <gnomefreak> oops
[02:07] <gnomefreak> ty
[02:11] <Jucato> whoa... Amarok 1.4.2 now available from Kubuntu,org whoopee
[02:12] <Buddha_Joe> Is that the version of Amarok with the MTP patch?
[02:12] <Jucato> Buddha_Joe: what MTP patch?
[02:14] <mkquist> anyone familiar w/wine?
[02:14] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.2.php
[02:14] <Buddha_Joe> I was rember reading soething about them adding a patch to allow use of MTP devices with Amarok... they were going to add it in the next beta release if I remember correctly
[02:14] <Jucato> I'm not sure Buddha_Joe
[02:15] <Jucato> Buddha_Joe: I think it does have what you're looking for
[02:15] <Jucato> http://amarok.kde.org/
[02:15] <Buddha_Joe> ;)
[02:17] <kutan> So
[02:17] <kutan> What's goin on peeps
[02:18] <Jucato> not much
[02:18] <Jucato> Hobbsee!!! Amarok 1.4.2 is now on Kubuntu.org
[02:18] <Jucato> Hobbsee: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.2.php
[02:18] <kutan> What's amarok again?
[02:18] <kutan> !amarok
[02:18] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[02:18] <kutan> Ah
[02:19] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yay!
[02:20] <Jucato> Hobbsee: signed by Riddel. But when I updated, no upgrades were available. meaning they're exactly the same?
[02:20] <kutan> Is mkquist still here?
[02:20] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yep
[02:20] <Jucato> goodie goodie
[02:20] <kutan> Guess not lol
[02:21] <kutan> I was just about to answer his question about wine =X
[02:21] <Jucato> Hobbsee: KTorrent and K3b were mentioned in the Announcement page...
[02:21] <Jucato> hold on...
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true that.  not kopete though
[02:22] <baldi> hello
[02:22] <kutan> So what are some fun games EXCLUSIVE to linux? :D
[02:22] <kutan> Besides xmoto
[02:22] <Jucato> Frozen Bubble!!
[02:22] <Hobbsee> kutan: look in adept :P
[02:22] <Jucato> ehehe
[02:23] <kutan> Yeah I guess it's time to move on to new games
[02:23] <kutan> I've already worn out teatime
[02:25] <Jucato> lol! Hobbsee I almost replied to what you said in -devel!
[02:25] <kutan> If the penguin isn't in tuxkart I'm deleting it ASAP
[02:26] <kutan> Ah here's a good chance to ask about this problem
[02:27] <kutan> Occasionally I'll install something (ex. tuxkart) through adept properly
[02:27] <kutan> and it just won't show up on my menu
[02:27] <kutan> and then I'll manually add it
[02:27] <Jucato> heheh I figured you'd be asking that..
[02:27] <kutan> then the manually added AND original that should have been there before will be there.
[02:28] <kutan> What's up with that?
[02:28] <Jucato> kutan:  if it's meant to have a K Menu entry, you can try typing "kbuildsycoca --incremental" in the command line to update the K Menu
[02:28] <Jucato> you "usually" don't have to add it manually
[02:28] <kutan> Ah okay thanks
[02:29] <Jucato> Hobbsee: Kopete 0.12.2 doesn't seem to be in dapper-backports or in kubuntu.org?
[02:29] <kutan> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[02:29] <Hobbsee> Jucato: kopete should have hit backports
[02:29] <Jucato> kutan: ignore that "error" message
[02:29] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I'll manually check it...
[02:29] <kutan> Hmmm I guess I have to add it manually, cause afterwards it's still not there
[02:29] <Hobbsee> Jucato: apt-cache policy kopete
[02:30] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I use apt-cache madison. hold on I'll try...
[02:30] <Jucato> might be a server/mirror thingy
[02:30] <Hobbsee> that works too
[02:31] <Hobbsee> Jucato: you're on kde 3.5.4?
[02:31] <nonickname> ugh.. has anyone successfully set up the latest fglrx in dapper?
[02:31] <Jucato> Hobbsee: yes
[02:31] <Jucato> it ain't in archive.ubuntu.com yet...
[02:31] <Hobbsee> Jucato: hmm...interesting
[02:31] <Jucato> probably that's why it wasn't included in the announcement...
[02:32] <Hobbsee>  * Trying to backport kopete...
[02:32] <Hobbsee>   - <kopete_3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1.dsc: downloading from librarian>
[02:32] <Hobbsee>   - <kopete_3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1.diff.gz: downloading from librarian>
[02:32] <Hobbsee>   - <kopete_3.5.4+kopete0.12.2.orig.tar.gz: downloading from librarian>
[02:32] <Hobbsee> I: Extracting kopete_3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1.dsc ...  done.
[02:32] <Hobbsee> I: Building backport of kopete-3.5.4+kopete0.12.2 ...  done.
[02:32] <Hobbsee> ** Changed in: dapper-backports (upstream)
[02:32] <Hobbsee>        Status: In Progress => Fix Released
[02:32] <Hobbsee> Jucato: according to that, it's done
[02:33] <Jucato> rawr!
[02:33] <Jucato> !pastebin
[02:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:33] <Jucato> lol
[02:33] <Hobbsee> yeah, didnt realise it was quite that long, sorry
[02:33] <Jucato> I was just kidding about the pastebin thingy...
[02:33] <Hobbsee> :P
[02:33] <Jucato> but seriously.. it's not there. unless kopete has been moved out of main?
[02:34] <Jucato> hold on.. unless they...
[02:34] <beatka> rU?
[02:34] <Jucato> dapper-updages?
[02:34] <Jucato> updates*
[02:34] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it hasnt.  and it's gone into backports, i think
[02:34] <Hobbsee> which is why p.u.c wouldnt show it
[02:35] <xunq> xgl+compiz guide for kubuntu thats realy wor ?
[02:35] <Hobbsee> dont crash!
[02:35] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I'm not looking at p.u.c
[02:35] <Hobbsee> Jucato: got backports enabled?
[02:35] <Jucato> I'm manually looking into archive.ubuntu.com
[02:35] <Hobbsee> it's built on everything except for sparc, it seems
[02:36] <Jucato> Hobbsee: yeah. I've got backports. I got KTorrent 2.0.1 there
[02:36] <Hobbsee> Jucato: can you do apt-cache policy kopete please?   i want to see what it finds'
[02:36] <Jucato> policy or madison?
[02:37] <Hobbsee> Jucato: either.  both
[02:37] <Tm_T> Kopete <3
[02:38] <Jucato> Hobbsee: policy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22143
[02:38] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: indeed :)
[02:38] <Tm_T> I still haven't done my newest chat style ready to test
[02:39] <Tm_T> intended to put that buddy icon to background ;)
[02:39] <Jucato> lol!!
[02:39] <Tm_T> yeah I know, it'll be slow, but hey!
[02:39] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I think I made a boo boo?
[02:39] <Jucato> Kopete 0.12.2 isn't meant to be out for Dapper, is it?
[02:40] <h3sp4wn> !info moc edgy
[02:40] <ubotu> moc: ncurses based console audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-2 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 548 kB
[02:40] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i'm not sure what imbrandon's repo will do to that, but i might poke jdong tomorrow.
[02:40] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it is - i requested a backport.
[02:40] <Hobbsee> Jucato: according to this, keybuk's added it, it's built on everything except sparc...
[02:40] <Jucato> Hobbsee: oh... so 0.12.2 is the one you requested for...
[02:41] <Hobbsee> Jucato: indeed.  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kopete/4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1~dapper1
[02:41] <Jucato> Hobbsee: this is what apt-cache madison kopete spit out when I removed brandon's repos
[02:41] <Jucato> er... pastebin-ing...
[02:41] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:42] <Jucato> it's 3 lines only.. but..
[02:42] <nonickname> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv do  paste that into the console exactly as it appears?
[02:42] <Hobbsee> nonickname: yes
[02:42] <Jucato> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22144
[02:42] <nonickname> ah. thanks
[02:42] <Jucato> this is soooo strange..
[02:43] <nonickname> well, goodbye world
[02:43] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it says it's there too.  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-August/012013.html
[02:43] <Jucato> rawr!
[02:43] <nonickname> i'm off to watch and put money down on the bet that my computer will not be booting into x windows next time i turn it on
[02:43] <Jucato> I'll try the uk.archive.ubuntu.com....
[02:43] <Jucato> KDE 3.5.4 from Kubuntu.org
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Jucato: mind pastebinning your sources list please?
[02:44] <nonickname> :p
[02:44] <Hobbsee> hey Hawkwind
[02:44] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Good morning(my time) evening your time :)
[02:44] <nonickname> i actually had an fglrx install go okay once.. otherwise i wouldn't have had the courage to try it this time
[02:44] <Jucato> sure
[02:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: hi!!
[02:44] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hey there!
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: :)
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Jucato: meaning "something's weird, i dont know what yet"
[02:45] <h3sp4wn> nonickname: Maybe you want the highmem.h patch added to your kernel headers (from the fglrx kernel source - it makes the screen look clearer or did when I was using it)
[02:45] <Jucato> ehehe
[02:46] <Hobbsee> that explains why i cant find it using pbuilder login
[02:47] <Hobbsee> which also explains why doing apt-cache madison kopete failed inside it.
[02:47] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: you around?
[02:47] <Jucato> Hobbsee: ehehe
[02:47] <Jucato> Hobbsee: as requested: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22145
[02:47] <Jucato> nonickname: how did it go?
[02:48] <nonickname> well holy fragging hell
[02:48] <Jucato> ???
[02:48] <nonickname> it appears that god does exist
[02:48] <nonickname> i got the latest fglrx working :p
[02:48] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i'd blame a slow mirror or something.
[02:48] <Jucato> "echo DEITY=Jucato"
[02:48] <Jucato> thank $DEITY for that!
[02:48] <nonickname> echo INVALIDATE=1
[02:49] <Jucato> Hobbsee: which is the main archive site: uk.archive.ubuntu.com or archive.ubuntu.com?
[02:49] <Hobbsee> archive.u.c
[02:49] <nonickname> echo screw_it=1
[02:50] <nonickname> lol
[02:50] <Jucato> Hobbsee: what I did was go to this site: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/ and open Packages.gz, browse through the Packages list
[02:51] <nonickname> blarg
[02:51] <Hobbsee> Jucato: okay.  soyuz likely broke or something
[02:51] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I hope he didn't break a leg or something..
[02:51] <Jucato> oh krap!
[02:51] <Hobbsee> Jucato: not he.  it.
[02:51] <Jucato> oh...
[02:51] <Jucato> sorry..
[02:52] <Jucato> it smells like dog's krap... somewhere...
[02:52] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Yes I am
[02:52] <Hobbsee> Jucato: soyuz tends to be held together with bits of sticky tape, chewing gum, bits of string, and lots of love.
[02:52] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: want to do an apt-cache policy kopete please?
[02:52] <Jucato> I thought soyuz was an IRC handle or something...
[02:52] <Hobbsee> Jucato: no, it's the name of all the archive stuff
[02:52] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/71
[02:53] <Jucato> wee that was fast!
[02:53] <nonickname> you know what people should do?
[02:53] <Jucato> nonickname: no, but I bet you're gonna tell us
[02:54] <Hobbsee> hey cool, it's screwed here too.
[02:54] <nonickname> hmm
[02:54] <Jucato> :-D
[02:54] <nonickname> actually
[02:54] <ionelf> hello
[02:54] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i'll have to bug jdong over what happened to that
[02:54] <Jucato> rawr! he ain't in -devel
[02:55] <Hobbsee> Jucato: he's not around at the moment
[02:55] <Jucato> Hawkwind: isn't ulteo the distro that the Mandriva founder is trying to make?
[02:55] <ionelf> hi, I'm pretty new, someone know if there is "Strong DC++" for Ubuntu? tks a lot!
[02:55] <nonickname> Jucato: turns out i don't know what people should do either
[02:55] <nonickname> hehe ionelf
[02:55] <nonickname> that program was pretty cool
[02:55] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yes.  The one that I'm deeply involved in.  /whois Hawkwind  to see :P
[02:55] <Jucato> nonickname: aww... c'mon don't be shy! :-D
[02:56] <h3sp4wn> To me it will always be Mandrake not Mandriva
[02:56] <nonickname> i was gonna say something about binary diffs.. but i can't imagine why anyone would bother doing that
[02:56] <Jucato> Hawkwind: oooh! are you the one responsible for making it Kubuntu-based?
[02:56] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDerivedDistros
[02:56] <nonickname> and not diffs you can run on files
[02:56] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Heh no.  That was Gael's decision actually
[02:57] <nonickname> urgh
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> xdeltas work fine
[02:57] <nonickname> ah, here we go. i want the xorg sources pronto :p
[02:57] <Jucato> Hawkwind: ehehe! never thought you 2 were close.
[02:58] <Jucato> oooh! Mandriva.. then Ulteo... darn why didn't I see the connection...
[02:58] <Jucato>  @_@
[02:58] <phreakys_> hi
[02:58] <phreakys_>  i just upgraded to kde3.5.4, and now i cant place icons on my desktop anymore
[02:59] <phreakys_> is there a fix for this?
[02:59] <Jucato> phreakys_: make sure that "Show icons on desktop" is enabled?
[02:59] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hah yeah.  I've known him for quite some time.  I got involved with Ulteo the day Gael was let go from Mandriva
[03:00] <phreakys_> oops
[03:00] <phreakys_> you're right
[03:00] <phreakys_> thanks
[03:00] <phreakys_> problem solved
[03:00] <phreakys_> :D
[03:00] <Jucato> Hawkwind: that was a sad day... didn't really do much good for Mandriva's image, IMHO... but I hope Mr. Duval won't push through with his lawsuit plans...
[03:00] <Jucato> phreakys_: eheheh! enjoy!
[03:01] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yeah.  I don't think he will...atleast he's not told me anything about it
[03:01] <nonickname> is anyone keeping up with sco trying to sue everyone or is that over?
[03:01] <Jucato> nonickname: www.groklaw.net
[03:02] <phreakys_> compiz runs like crazy <-)
[03:02] <nonickname> :o
[03:02] <Jucato> You could also try checking up with Linux.org once in a while... But I lost interest in that site for a few reasons...
[03:03] <nonickname> ah, i'm alright
[03:03] <nonickname> sco case is uninteresting to me save for a few laughs here and there
[03:03] <nonickname> anyhow..
[03:03] <nonickname> anyone recompiled xorg?
[03:05] <Jucato> Hobbsee, Hawkwind: is Kopete still dependent on XMMS in Edgy?
[03:05] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I have no idea.  I don't have a box for Edgy anywhere at the moment
[03:05] <Jucato> oh, my apologies Hawkwind
[03:06] <Hawkwind> I think when knot 2 comes out I'm going to install it in vmware though
[03:06] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it never was
[03:06] <Jucato> darn! aseigo's not here... I couldn't tease him about the comments from the Dot
[03:06] <Jucato> Hobbsee: it never was in Edgy?
[03:07] <Hobbsee> Jucato: not in any of the sources that i uploaded, that i remember
[03:07] <nonickname> uhm.. wtf?
[03:07] <Jucato> darn! aseigo's not here... I couldn't tease him about the comments from the Dot :-D
[03:07] <nonickname> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main xorg 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (tar) [543kB]  what is this?
[03:07] <Jucato> Hobbsee: ok thanks! I don't want to keep XMMS installed coz I rarely use it...
[03:08] <Jucato> nonickname: what's wrong?
[03:08] <nonickname> i'm trying to grab the xorg server source
[03:08] <nonickname> at least, i think that's what i'm gonna want to recompile
[03:08] <Hawkwind> nonickname: Why are you wanting to rebuild xorg ?
[03:09] <nonickname> because i get this 53 (X_CreatePixmap) error that i direly need to straighted out
[03:09] <nonickname> christ
[03:09] <nonickname> straighten
[03:10] <Hawkwind> nonickname: How would recompiling xorg solve that issue ?
[03:11] <nonickname> Hawkwind: well, to be honest, i was reading about a miscoded patch that broke it, that can simply be replaced, but.. now i'm just lost
[03:12] <nonickname> i don't know, heh.. the thing i was reading is dated from 2005
[03:12] <Hawkwind> nonickname: When do you get that error...and is it critical as in stopping X or anything else from working ?
[03:13] <nonickname> it's stopping a certain program being run under wine that i'd really like to have working
[03:13] <Hobbsee> nonickname: likely very old, and wont fix the problem
[03:14] <nonickname> =(
[03:14] <nonickname> ah, Hawkwind: i get it as soon as i open the program
[03:14] <nonickname> same trying to run it under cedega
[03:15] <nonickname> i had someone from #cedega try it on their comp.. same thing
[03:15] <Hawkwind> nonickname: Have you submitted a bug for this ?
[03:16] <nonickname> in wine..?
[03:16] <nonickname> no
[03:16] <nonickname> no bug submittals
[03:16] <Hawkwind> Well, if it's an actual issue with wine, then yes.  Or if it's an actual problem with xorg, then file it against xorg
[03:17] <Jucato> kutan: told ya! ehehehe
[03:17] <nonickname> i don't have the first cluwe
[03:17] <nonickname> clue*
[03:17] <nonickname> and i don't think anyone cares about the particular game i'm trying to get running
[03:17] <Jucato> hm... I might be overlooking some simple things, because I'm a sort of a power user. but I'm just a bit curious: How does a relatively new user add a "Trash" icon easily on the desktop, seeing as one cannot simply drag and drop the Kicker applet? (Problem solved in Edgy, I think?)
[03:17] <Hawkwind> nonickname: Maybe talk to the guys in #WineHQ about it and they could point you in the right direction of where to file the bug
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> nonickname: are you using the wine.budgetdedicated.com version of wine it is alot newer
[03:17] <Jucato> nonickname: don't you just hate that feeling? when you stumbled on something that may be a bug but feel that no one might bother about it?
[03:18] <nonickname> h3sp4wn: yea
[03:18] <h3sp4wn> nonickname: what does #winehq say ?
[03:18] <phreakys_> hey
[03:18] <jon_> hello
[03:18] <Martijn81> guys, if you alter the file associations in konqueror for an file extenstion, you modify the mimetype config, true?
[03:18] <phreakys_> would it be possible to get that new suse kde menu in kubuntu?
[03:19] <Jucato> phreakys_: it's not even in stable SUSE yet
[03:19] <Hawkwind> phreakys_: Hah!  Not for a while I'm sure
[03:19] <jon_> my cd rom is randomly ejecting a cd im trying to listen to in the middle of the first song i play
[03:19] <jon_> any ideas as to why?
[03:19] <nonickname> they say, 'why are you running that old version? don't you know there's a linux port?' or they don't answer.. similiar.. i probably wasn't asking right
[03:19] <Jucato> phreakys_: don't worry, if it's successful, it might be the new K Menu in KDE 4
[03:19] <Hawkwind> jon_: Duct tape it shut :P
[03:19] <jon_> haha
[03:19] <jon_> if only it were that easy
[03:19] <Hawkwind> jon_: Bad CD perhaps ?
[03:19] <jon_> no i just bought it
[03:19] <nonickname> h3sp4wn: you get that last message?
[03:19] <jon_> its in mint condition
[03:20] <phreakys_> aha
[03:20] <Jucato> Bad CD-ROM drive?
[03:20] <phreakys_> no experimental versions available?
[03:20] <jon_> dammit
[03:20] <Jucato> phreakys_: nope.
[03:20] <Hawkwind> jon_: Just because it's new doesn't mean it's good
[03:20] <Jucato> phreakys_: or better talk to KDE/SUSE devs
[03:20] <Hawkwind> jon_: Have you tried another CD and see if it does the same
[03:20] <phreakys_> ok
[03:20] <Jucato> but I'm sure theey won't recommend it for regular use right now
[03:21] <Jucato> phreakys_: in the mean time, you could try out kbfx. the latest release is available in dapper-backports
[03:21] <Jucato> yey! Fedora Core 5 Live-Spin CD finished! ehehee
[03:22] <nonickname> oh, and also, they complain about me asking for help and not having the latest working version of my graphics card drivers.. not to begrudge, but.. i just updated my gfx card drivers earlier..
[03:22] <Jucato> or did I just utter a heresy??
[03:22] <nonickname> gah, you've got me wanting to see what they say when i head in there now
[03:23] <h3sp4wn> nonickname: What is the program (and what is the linux port)
[03:23] <nonickname> mame32k .64 is what i want working
[03:23] <nonickname> no other version / port / anything will suffice
[03:23] <h3sp4wn> nonickname: For what reason ?
[03:24] <jon_> yea ive tried another cd
[03:24] <nonickname> h3sp4wn: it's a battleground for mame players..
[03:24] <nonickname> netplay with servers to find people in
[03:24] <h3sp4wn> Ok (I just use advancemame)
[03:25] <nonickname> ah
[03:25] <nonickname> on kaillera?
[03:25] <phreakys_> aha
[03:25] <phreakys_> tnx jucato
[03:25] <nonickname> never mind
[03:26] <h3sp4wn> nonickname: I have never tried netplay but its a reasonably recent version of mame (the ones in dapper/edgy/sid are ancient)
[03:26] <nonickname> ah
[03:26] <Jucato> jon_: so which is? Bad CD or bad drive?
[03:26] <cozomo> hm
[03:27] <nonickname> sorry, but your point being, h3sp4wn?
[03:27] <nonickname> why does everyone shy away from emulator netplay?
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> Never really considered it
[03:29] <jon_> well its still not working right
[03:30] <jon_> does that mean its the cd drive and not something else that could be fixed...
[03:30] <nonickname> there's actually a pretty big playerbase on 32k, but only for games like sfa3, ssf2t, mvsc, and the neogeo ones.. and the like
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> nonickname: I don't use wine though - if there was a native emulator which supported it then I would try it
[03:31] <nonickname> ah
[03:31] <h3sp4wn> I like the jap streetfighter 2 turbo (been looking for a real arcade machine of it to buy for quite a while now)
[03:35] <kubuntu_tester> hello folks
[03:35] <kubuntu_tester> I have installed vncserver
[03:35] <kubuntu_tester> and have problem with keyboard configuration on client side
[03:35] <kubuntu_tester> someone can help me?
[03:36] <kubuntu_tester> the keymap seems to be not correct
[03:36] <kubuntu_tester> only A key works
[03:36] <kubuntu_tester> I tried to change map setting but this doesnt help
[03:40] <earthian> hello
[03:40] <kubuntu_tester> nobody can give me an advice? :(
[03:40] <earthian> got a quick question: i have ubuntu. i am going to remove gnome gui and install kde instead. will that make my ubuntu > kubuntu? :)
[03:41] <earthian> kubuntu_tester: what advice you need?
[03:41] <earthian> :)
[03:41] <kubuntu_tester> earthian: read above
[03:41] <kubuntu_tester> it's about vcn server
[03:41] <earthian> i have just joined
[03:41] <kubuntu_tester> oh okay
[03:41] <earthian> vcn server? never heard of it :(
[03:42] <Jucato> earthian: yes
[03:42] <Jucato> I just you install "kubuntu-desktop" to get the default Kubuntu programs and settings
[03:42] <earthian> thanks Jucato :)
[03:42] <Jucato> kubuntu_tester: sorry, I have no idea about vnc...
[03:42] <earthian> well i am installing ubuntu not from live cd but manualyl
[03:42] <earthian> manually
[03:42] <earthian> with apt-get
[03:43] <earthian> on my raid disk
[03:43] <earthian> that makes it a little different.
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> earthian: just install kubuntu-desktop and you will get kde and all the apps
[03:43] <Jucato> earthian: you might find this helpful: a guide on installing KDE on Ubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde.html
[03:43] <earthian> kubuntu wont install on raid
[03:44] <earthian> as ubuntu or any other good linux
[03:44] <earthian> :/
[03:44] <h3sp4wn> earthian: It will on real raid
[03:44] <h3sp4wn> earthian: Have you tried the alternative cd ?
[03:44] <Jucato> earthian: I think you need to use the Alternate Install CD for RAID
[03:44] <earthian> no
[03:44] <Jucato> rawr! h3sp4wn beat me to it...
[03:44] <earthian> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto <-- FTW :)
[03:45] <earthian> that url provides a way how to install ubuntu on a raid disk
[03:45] <earthian> otherwise it will see two different hdds on raid-0 array
[03:45] <earthian> and not array itself
[03:45] <earthian> if you understand what i mean
[03:45] <earthian> i want my root to be faster than a normal hdd :D
[03:46] <earthian> IMHO i hope ubuntu developers will find time to make ubuntu support RAID things in the next release
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> Its easy enough to install with debootstrap anyway
[03:47] <earthian> yea i am doing this right now
[03:47] <earthian> debootstrap++
[03:47] <earthian> :)
[03:49] <earthian> at first there was problem with my internet connection... ubuntu does not give me internet connection with liveCD without pppoe client software which i needed to download <-- download and offline does not sound good tbh
[03:49] <earthian> :D
[03:49] <earthian> but then i installed windows, downloaded the software, copied it to fdd and then again rebooted to ubuntu livecd
[03:50] <earthian> took me one day to make things work :(
[03:50] <TheFuzzball> how do I downgrade from KDE 3.5.4 to KDE 3.5.3?
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> TheFuzzball: set /etc/apt/preferences (give 3.5.3 a priority of 1001 3.5.4 50 or something)
[03:52] <nonickname> h3sp4wn: exactly what i was talking about.. conversation ended with 'Get real hardware and don't touch stuff that stinks'
[03:52] <TheFuzzball> h3sp4wn, /etc/apt/preferences: No such file or directory
[03:52] <earthian> :)
[03:52] <XVampireX> Anyone into helping me set up my printer?
[03:53] <jujimufu> I need help connecting my nokia 6230i via bluetooth to my PC
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> nonickname: If you don't / won't get real hardware you don't need raid in my opinion
[03:54] <Martijn81> edgy's daily kubuntu md5sum looks messy here :s
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> TheFuzzball: You need to create it - there are multiple examples on google
[03:55] <XVampireX> Anyone into helping me set up my printer?
[03:55] <SonicChao> XVampireX: What kind of printer?
[03:55] <XVampireX> Canon
[03:55] <SonicChao> !canon
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about canon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <XVampireX> S300
[03:56] <SonicChao> Sorry, I don't know anything about that model.
[03:56] <SonicChao> Or anything about Canon printers.
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> TheFuzzball: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=f3f221c2e6c9d5bbe05e20a7b45e3120&topic=611;prev_next=next
[03:57] <earthian> :S
[03:57] <earthian> what issues are there?
[03:58] <jujimufu> has anyone connected a 6230i via bluetooth?
[03:58] <earthian> jujimufu: not me
[03:59] <jott> XVampireX: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-S300
[03:59] <XVampireX> Yeah
[03:59] <XVampireX> Already found that and about to install gimp-print
[04:00] <TheFuzzball> h3sp4wn, thanks a lot, its working :)
[04:01] <TheFuzzball> h3sp4wn, I appreciate it
[04:03] <sephice> Hello, some germans here?
[04:03] <Jucato> !de
[04:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:03] <jujimufu> ich ben greschen
[04:03] <sephice> thx
[04:05] <flaccid> danker
[04:05] <flaccid> danke even
[04:05] <flaccid> was idst ben greschen?
[04:05] <flaccid> ist?
[04:06] <flaccid> is das eine name oder was underes?
[04:06] <kbrooks> Announcing EasyUbuntu 3.1 release candidate 1 release! Grab it from http://kbrooks.ath.cx/easyubuntu/easyubuntu-3.1-rc1.tar.gz . Please report any bugs you find in this release to https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu
[04:06] <flaccid> meine deutsch ia nicht gut
[04:07] <nonickname> h3sp4wn: raid?
[04:07] <Chuck> Try English.
[04:07] <earthian> http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=f3f221c2e6c9d5bbe05e20a7b45e3120&topic=611;prev_next=next
[04:07] <flaccid> hehe
[04:08] <earthian> ups
[04:08] <earthian> wtf paste?
[04:08] <Jucato> ?
[04:08] <h3sp4wn> nonickname: Doesn't matter
[04:09] <XVampireX> Hmm
[04:09] <XVampireX> When I try to compile gimp-print I get this error
[04:09] <XVampireX> grep: /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory
[04:09] <XVampireX> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory
[04:09] <XVampireX> libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libXrender.la' is not a valid libtool archive
[04:09] <XVampireX> make[3] : *** [libgutenprintui2.la]  Error 1
[04:09] <earthian> XVampireX: try apt-get install gimp-print
[04:09] <earthian> ?
[04:09] <Jucato> XVampireX: use pastebin please
[04:09] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:10] <Hobbsee> .la file were removed, iirc.
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> XVampireX: have you installed xorg-dev ?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: correct
[04:12] <gnomefreak> oh no what did i say :)
[04:13] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: me complaining @ meeting times being too early
[04:13] <Jucato> lol
[04:13] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:13] <Jucato> were you 2 talking privately?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: if i had to get up at 3am for a meeting than i would be the same way
[04:13] <earthian> gnomefreak: from you nickname i believe that you are uberuser of gnome gui?
[04:13] <earthian> right?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> earthian: no i use 5 differnet desktops
[04:14] <earthian> oh
[04:14] <earthian> :)
[04:14] <Jucato> earthian: his an ubuntu/kubuntu developer
[04:14] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: heh.  i've never done that.  if they want me at the meeitng, they need relatively sane timezones.
[04:14] <gnomefreak> he is?
[04:14] <earthian> \o/
[04:14] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: and i'm on the KCC for quorum, so...
[04:14] <gnomefreak> true
[04:14] <Hobbsee> Jucato: no, i read teh logs
[04:14] <Jucato> ah
[04:14] <earthian> well i am interested what desktop i could make the most beautiful with a lot of pretty stuff on my machine?
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> 3am is not too bad (I would almost always still be awake)
[04:14] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: has this thing where she thinks people talk about her when shes not around
[04:15] <gnomefreak> shes right :)
[04:15] <earthian> i have dual opteron with 1gig of ram, a raid and radeon x850xt
[04:15] <Jucato> lol
[04:15] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: fabbione reveals all :)
[04:15] <Jucato> yeah!! she's right about that
[04:15] <gnomefreak> he logs everything
[04:15] <Hobbsee> er, except i think the last few logs havent been working - i havent found the dev team logs
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> earthian: and your ati card will perform about as well in linux as an nvidia at 1/4 of the price
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: ubuntulog left #ubuntu-meeting yesterday during a meeting iirc
[04:16] <earthian> i know h3sp4wn :(
[04:16] <earthian> i was used to windows
[04:16] <earthian> now moved to linux
[04:16] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: ahhh...
[04:16] <Hobbsee> right
[04:16] <earthian> and got bad news about my gfx being worse than nvidia
[04:16] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: they'd better fix that before the meeting
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> earthian: I managed to get rid of a radeon 9800pro (swapped it for a cheaper nvidia with a windows user - we both did well out of it)
[04:17] <gnomefreak> it might have already been seeing as the next meeting is in llike 45 mins
[04:17] <earthian> m
[04:17] <earthian> mh
[04:17] <earthian> well i have agp
[04:17] <earthian> not pci-x
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> me 2
[04:17] <earthian> :S
[04:17] <earthian> hm
[04:17] <Jucato> Hobbsee: still no sign of Kopete. jdong seems to have been online in the forums half an hour ago...
[04:17] <earthian> well.. it is really interesting
[04:18] <earthian> will have to consider
[04:18] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yeah, i spoke to him earlier in -devel
[04:18] <Jucato> oh he was there? ehehe didn't notice him. :-D
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> earthian: That is why I swapped it - there is no way that I would buy a new agp card now seen as it is obsolete
[04:18] <Jucato> darn
[04:18] <Jucato> I need to get my eyes checked..
[04:18] <gnomefreak> i thought i saw him in #k-devel lastnight/this morning
[04:18] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I was looking for jdong_, didn't see that a jdong|* was there...
[04:18] <Hobbsee> Jucato: in #ubuntu-devel
[04:19] <Hobbsee> Jucato: heh
[04:19] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: yeah, he's there
[04:19] <gnomefreak> imbrandon is working on kopete wasnt he?
[04:19] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: hmm?  i'm in charge of kopete
[04:19] <gnomefreak> oh
[04:20] <Hobbsee> ;)
[04:20] <Jucato> yey Hobbsee!!! you go, girl!! :-D
[04:20] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: why would you yell at me?  besides, i can scream AND yell :D
[04:21] <gnomefreak> he was hoping to have it done i thought like todayish
[04:21] <gnomefreak> if she says its done i quit
[04:21] <Jucato> lol
[04:22] <Jucato> imbrandon hasn't added anything to his nightly build the past nights
[04:22] <Jucato> for Kopete and Konversation I mean...
[04:22] <alexichan> hey is windows system volume information important??
[04:22] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: what was needing to be done?
[04:22] <alexichan> like system critical? or just for backups
[04:22] <Jucato> alexichan: for Windows it is
[04:22] <alexichan> garr stupid windows
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: building it wasnt it? for the release of knot2
[04:23] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: they're doing all that now - main is frozen
[04:23] <Hobbsee> much to my annoyance, of course
[04:23] <gnomefreak> oh ok than i am just very late
[04:23] <Jucato> hehe
[04:23] <Hobbsee> we're shipping an uninstallable kdnetwork-dev package :(
[04:23] <Hobbsee> we're shipping an uninstallable kdenetwork-dev package :(
[04:23] <Jucato> just thaw the darn thing! ehehe
[04:23] <gnomefreak> thats not so good
[04:24] <Hobbsee> no, not really
[04:24] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: i only got the bug report in my email tonight, so....
[04:24] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: cant get an exception?
[04:25] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: it doesnt need a UVF - just that main is frozen for the building of the cds.
[04:31] <Danker> how to know free hdd space from command line?
[04:31] <ravenous> df
[04:31] <Kabal> du -h
[04:31] <Danker> which prog does do that?
[04:31] <Jucato> df -h would be betteer
[04:31] <Jucato> "df -h"
[04:31] <Jucato> "df" is the command
[04:31] <Danker> thx
[04:31] <Jucato> -h is an option to make it "slightly" human-readable/understandable
[04:32] <ravenous> nice didnt know about that flag, it is easier to read
[04:32] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:32] <Martijn81> Danker: filelight is nice too as a gui for du
[04:32] <Danker> its ok and command line :)
[04:32] <brk3> which kernel should i be using for my dual core centrino?
[04:32] <Danker> smp
[04:33] <Danker> 686
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> brk3: just the linux-686 kernel will be fine
[04:33] <brk3> Danker: its just i tried to install an smp kernel but when its trying to boot its hangs after the line: ok, booting the kernel
[04:33] <Danker> try non smp
[04:33] <Danker> try non 686
[04:33] <brk3> h3sp4wn: but id like to make use of both my processors
[04:33] <SonicChao> Whats up with KScreensaver? When I leave the comp for a while the whole screen goes dark.
[04:33] <Danker> try 386 smp
[04:34] <brk3> whats the difference between 386 and 686?
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> brk3: and you have installed linux-686 ?
[04:34] <Danker> processor optimizations
[04:34] <Jucato> SonicChao: it's not KScreensaver
[04:34] <Danker> sorry for my bad english
[04:34] <ravenous> what about linux-686-smp?
[04:34] <Jucato> SonicChao: The power management bug is back
[04:34] <brk3> h3sp4wn: im not sure it might be 386
[04:34] <SonicChao> Jucato: Power Management Bug?
[04:34] <SonicChao> Jucato: Any fix?
[04:34] <angelaki> who can help me with wine-doors?
[04:34] <Jucato> SonicChao: what version of KDE are you using, btw?
[04:35] <brk3> h3sp4wn: heres the one i have: kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k7-smp
[04:35] <brk3> is the k7 something wrong?
[04:35] <ravenous> thats am amd kernel ;p
[04:35] <brk3> ah!
[04:35] <SonicChao> Jucato: Um, the version that comes with the pacakge kubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <flaccid> i have the acpi (power management) bug as well
[04:35] <SonicChao> I'll go look it up
[04:35] <angelaki> who can help me with wine-doors?
[04:35] <h3sp4wn> brk3: Don't use that
[04:35] <Danker> use 2.6.x kernel
[04:35] <brk3> that must be my prob :)
[04:35] <brk3> thanks
[04:35] <h3sp4wn> brk3: use linux-686
[04:35] <SonicChao> Jucato: 3.5.2
[04:36] <Jucato> SonicChao: in the Help menu of any KDE app, select About KDE
[04:36] <brk3> so this one? kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp
[04:36] <Jucato> SonicChao: aah
[04:36] <flaccid> well the acpi one
[04:36] <h3sp4wn> brk3: don't use 2.4
[04:36] <h3sp4wn> brk3: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[04:36] <Jucato> SonicChao: System Settings > Display > Power Management tab
[04:36] <brk3> h3sp4wn: its just im not seeing 2.6 smps in the respitores..
[04:36] <ravenous> i thought it was linux-686-smp?
[04:36] <h3sp4wn> brk3: any of the linux-image 's support smp
[04:36] <Danker> you should see
[04:37] <h3sp4wn> just linux-686
[04:37] <Danker> i use one of these
[04:37] <Jucato> SonicChao: Enable power savings is checked and set to 30 mins. even if you change this, it will return to this setting after restarting
[04:37] <SonicChao> Jucato: Oh, I see. It switches off my monitor after a while
[04:37] <angelaki> who can help me with wine-doors?
[04:37] <SonicChao> Jucato: No fix?
[04:37] <brk3> ok
[04:37] <brk3> thanks alot for the help
[04:37] <Danker> exit
[04:37] <Jucato> SonicChao: I thought it was fixed in KDE 3.5.3. But apparently it's back in KDE 3.5.4
[04:37] <Jucato> so for now, no fix that I know of.
[04:38] <SonicChao> Jucato: Ok, wait am I using an old KDE version?
[04:38] <SonicChao> Jucato: I just installed "kubuntu-desktop" pkg yesterday
[04:38] <gnomefreak> 3.5.4 is latest SonicChao
[04:38] <Jucato> you're using a definitely more stable one...
[04:38] <Jucato> IMHO, KDE 3.5.3 is the latest stable one. KDE 3.5.4 on Kubuntu is a bit... bugged..
[04:39] <SonicChao> gnomefreak: Is there a way to update from repos? (or rather, should I update?)
[04:39] <gnomefreak> Jucato: that is true
[04:39] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: in dapper i think you need riddells repo off of kubuntu.org
[04:39] <Jucato> SonicChao: Here's how to upgrade to KDE 3.5.3: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[04:39] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: Jucato has a point 3.5.3 is a bit more stable
[04:39] <fit4lfe> not getting any sound with amarok
[04:40] <brk3> h3sp4wn: sorry,just one more thing.. i just downloaded the linux-686 but its only 25kb! thats not right is it?
[04:40] <ravenous> i wonder why there's a linux-686 package and linux-686-smp package if all the linux-686 kernels have smp enabled?
[04:40] <fit4lfe> but all of my other media players I can
[04:40] <gnomefreak> Jucato: 3.5.3 should be in dapper repos
[04:40] <Hobbsee> those 3.5.3 packages arent getting updated...
[04:40] <fit4lfe> what could be the problem
[04:40] <Jucato> gnomefreak: err.. not yet I think...
[04:40] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: not really.
[04:40] <gnomefreak> !info kdebase
[04:40] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 38 kB, installed size 76 kB
[04:40] <gnomefreak> ack
[04:40] <Jucato> ehehe!
[04:40] <Hobbsee> kde 3.5.3 wont be backported
[04:40] <gnomefreak> thats not good is it?
[04:40] <SonicChao> Nah, I think I'll keep my current version until they put it in the repos.
[04:40] <Jucato> I asked Jonathan about it... KDE won't get  backported, probably ever. hehehe
[04:41] <Hobbsee> Jucato: we'll see.  if one's mega more stable, then why not?  *shrugs*
[04:41] <Jucato> SonicChao: then you'll be waiting for a long time
[04:41] <Hobbsee> Jucato: we just backported kopete, after all
[04:41] <Jucato> Hobbsee: a single app is one thing, but a whole DE? ehehehe
[04:41] <Hobbsee> Jucato: but that was only a few bits.  kde is huge
[04:41] <Jucato> lol
[04:41] <Jucato> I said it first eheheeh
[04:41] <ravenous> so what in edgy? 3.5.3 or 3.5.4?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> and edgy is still expecting 3.5.5?
[04:41] <Hobbsee> 3.5.4 at the moment
[04:41] <Jucato> ravenous: 3.5.4
[04:42] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: when's the ETA on that?  depends how stable it is
[04:42] <Jucato> I don't think 3.5.5 will make it...
[04:42] <gnomefreak> oct i think i was told
[04:42] <SonicChao> Jucato: It's not like I'm missing anything
[04:42] <ravenous> ah okay
[04:42] <Jucato> SonicChao: probably. except that Power Saving bug.
[04:42] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: ouch.  oct when?
[04:42] <jott> well some patches from svn would be nice for 3.5.4 ;)
[04:42] <Hobbsee> Jucato: depends on the stability, and changelog
[04:42] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: dont know riddell told me oct release
[04:42] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: fair enough.
[04:42] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: universe is frozen?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: no, just main
[04:43] <XVampireX> Hey
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[04:43] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: main's properly frozen, due to the knot 2 freeze
[04:43] <Jucato> KDE 4 Tech preview is on Oct. will they be able to release that and 3.5.5 at the same time?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: then back to UVF exceptions
[04:43] <ravenous> universe doesnt get frozen till end of sept right?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ask upstream that.
[04:43] <XVampireX> Where do I add a username in Cups?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> ravenous: indeed.
[04:43] <ravenous> okay
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ok how about kde 3.5.5 beta than after release updaing to stable?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i doubt we'll do packages for kde 4 tech preview
[04:43] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: depends on stability.  *shrugs*
[04:44] <Jucato> err.. sorry... I was asking whether the KDE guys would be able to release both things in one month
[04:44] <SonicChao> There isn't going to be a KDE 4 in the repos?
[04:44] <XVampireX> Where do I add a username in Cups?
[04:44] <SonicChao> Wait, whats going on with Kubuntu?
[04:44] <Hobbsee> SonicChao: no.
[04:44] <gnomefreak> Jucato: yeah should be able to
[04:44] <SonicChao> I'm confused.
[04:44] <Hobbsee> Jucato: no idea.  probably.
[04:44] <Jucato> SonicChao: definitely not
[04:44] <SonicChao> Hobbsee: Kubuntu will stay at KDE 3
[04:44] <SonicChao> ...forever?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: you will not see kde4 until edgy+1 or later
[04:44] <Hobbsee> SonicChao: not forever.
[04:44] <SonicChao> Even when KDE 4 is done.
[04:44] <SonicChao> ??
[04:44] <h3sp4wn> !info linux-image-686
[04:44] <ubotu> linux-image-686: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[04:44] <Jucato> SonicChao: KDE 4 won't be released until next year at the earliest
[04:44] <fit4lfe> does anyone use amarok hrer
[04:44] <SonicChao> And by that, I means table.
[04:44] <fit4lfe> here
[04:44] <Hobbsee> edgy+1 should be an interesting release.
[04:44] <SonicChao> stable*
[04:44] <Hobbsee> fit4lfe: sure
[04:44] <fit4lfe> can't get the sound to work
[04:44] <SonicChao> fit4lfe: I do
[04:45] <fit4lfe> what could be the problem
[04:45] <SonicChao> fit4lfe: #amarok
[04:45] <Hobbsee> not enough info.
[04:45] <Jucato> fit4lfe: are you trying to play MP3's?
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> brk3: get linux-image-686
[04:45] <fit4lfe> and streaming yeah
[04:45] <gnomefreak> fit4lfe: does sound work at all?
[04:45] <fit4lfe> yes
[04:45] <fit4lfe> on other players
[04:45] <SonicChao> grothesk: How did you do that? =)
[04:45] <gnomefreak> than install the mp3 codecs for amarok
[04:45] <Jucato> fit4lfe: is "libxine-extracodecs" installed?
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> brk3: and the matching restricted-modules if you need them (make sure you have restricted enabled for dapper-security)
[04:45] <fit4lfe> let me see
[04:46] <grothesk> fit4lfe: Switch the output to xine in amarok , fit4lfe
[04:46] <SonicChao> =)
[04:46] <Jucato> hehehe
[04:46] <fit4lfe> guess not
[04:46] <fit4lfe> let me try now
[04:47] <Jucato> SonicChao: don't worry about KDE 4. it's going to be quite a while before they release something stable
[04:47] <Jucato> lol!
[04:47] <SonicChao> Lol gnomefreak
[04:47] <Jucato> !ph > Jucato
[04:48] <gnomefreak> i think of him like my notepad i add things to him so i dont have to remember and than i !recall them
[04:48] <fit4lfe> hmm do you have to have kmix on to hear anything
[04:48] <fit4lfe> or no
[04:48] <Jucato> fit4lfe: no
[04:48] <gnomefreak> Seveas: lose the away message
[04:48] <gnomefreak> damn
[04:49] <fit4lfe> hmm
[04:49] <Hobbsee> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=sevyls||afk: please remove that away message
[04:49] <gnomefreak> [[sevyls||afk] ] : lose the away message
[04:49] <Jucato> !everything
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about everything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <Hobbsee> hey...
[04:49] <Seveas> Hobbsee, ?
[04:49] <Seveas> your script is evil
[04:49] <gnomefreak> sorry Seveas i didnt mean to ping you
[04:49] <Seveas> (btw: that person is away, the only way he'll notice is if you kick him)
[04:49] <Hobbsee> Seveas: wrong nick, dotn worry.  it's not a script, it's an alias, although that's a konvi script.   can we get ubuntulog in #ubuntu-meeting to track the developer meeting please?
[04:49] <fit4lfe> got it now
[04:50] <fit4lfe> thx guys
[04:50] <Seveas> Hobbsee, ubuntulog isn't mine
[04:50] <gnomefreak> ubuntulog is fabb's
[04:50] <Jucato> fit4lfe: got MP3's working?
[04:50] <Hobbsee> Seveas: or stick in a replacement, or something?
[04:50] <charlie5> hulloo ,,, does ktorrent always crash when you try a search ?
[04:50] <gnomefreak> ubugtu i thought logged
[04:50] <Seveas> Hobbsee, there's a replacement
[04:51] <Hobbsee> Seveas: cool.  the logs are accessible where?
[04:51] <Seveas> not publicly, but I'll put it online
[04:51] <Martijn81> charlie5: no, shouldn't happen...
[04:52] <Seveas> (EdgyEft is my logger)
[04:52] <gnomefreak> found a typo in my book :(
[04:52] <Hobbsee> Seveas: that'd be cool, thanks :)
[04:52] <Hobbsee> night all
[04:52] <gnomefreak> night Hobbsee
[04:52] <Jucato> bye Hobbsee!!
[04:52] <charlie5> Martijn81: it ahppens for me every time ... any idea's what might cause it ?
[04:53] <Martijn81> charlie5: not really, i would upgrade to latest version 2.0.2 and if the problem remains bump an bug on the forums
[04:54] <Jucato> or KTorrent 2.0.1 if you want something from Ubuntu's repos
[04:56] <charlie5> Martijn81: mmm ... yep ... i only have version 1.2 ... i'll have to d/l & install manually for version 2.0.1 (ie there is no package for it ?)
[04:57] <Martijn81> charlie5: i think it's in dapper backports
[04:57] <Jucato> charlie5: 2.0.1 is available in dapper-backports
[04:57] <Jucato> just enable that repository
[04:57] <Martijn81> yep :)
[04:57] <jason__> hi....
[04:58] <jason__> so i have a strange issue.... my usb usrobotics usr5420g is detected and looks great.  it sees the router, has associated with it, but i cant connect to it.  i have tripl checked the wep key.  any thoughts?
[04:58] <charlie5> :) ... thanks, guys ... i didn't know about backports ... what are they for, in general ?
[04:58] <jason__> oh, btw - i am running xgl/compiz - and lovin it *wow*
[04:58] <Jucato> charlie5: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[04:58] <Jucato> err.. sorry
[04:58] <Jucato> wrong link
[04:59] <Jucato> charlie5: this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:59] <jason__> heyyy Jucato.  kumusta ka?
[04:59] <charlie5> Jucato: thank you :)
[04:59] <Jucato> jason__: heheh! ok lang ako. (I'm doing fine)
[05:00] <jason__> Jucato: ever played with ndiswrapper?
[05:00] <Jucato> nope....
[05:00] <Jucato> sorry
[05:00] <jason__> :(
[05:01] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: Use the latest stable version (not the one from the repos) and the recommended driver for your chipset
[05:02] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: ah ok. thanks!
[05:02] <jason__> utils ver 1.7  driver version 1.8  <== ndiswrapper -v
[05:06] <ryanr> I compiled a new kernel and installed it. Everything works fine but it does not recognize the modem. Is there a way to force it to find the modem?
[05:06] <h3sp4wn> ndiswrapper is getting better and better (especially on 64bit)
[05:08] <youssef> hi every b
[05:09] <jason__> h3sp4wn: yes, it is.  but i cant understand why i am not able to connect to the router.... it is very strange!  any ideas?
[05:09] <charlie5> hmm, i added backports, but ktorrent hasn't shown up in adept with a newer version
[05:09] <youssef> i w help my ubuntu os could'nt reconise my web cam
[05:10] <jason__> charlie5: did you try automatix?
[05:10] <charlie5> another package manager ?
[05:11] <Jucato> charlie5: did you "sudo apt-get update" or Fetch Updates (in Adept)?
[05:11] <jason__> no - it just installs a *lot* of pretty essential stuff for ubuntu
[05:11] <Jucato> after you added dapper-backports
[05:12] <jason__> charlie5:  http://www.getautomatix.com/
[05:12] <Jucato> jason__: he's trying to install KTorrent from dapper-backports. Automatix won't help
[05:12] <charlie5> Jucato: yes, i did fetch updates in adept ... it pauses for a sec on the backports entry
[05:12] <Martijn81> automatrix is no rule for succes;)
[05:13] <Jucato> charlie5:  could you paste that line, just that line, that you enabled?
[05:14] <jason__> i thought that ktorrent got installed by automatix....sorry
[05:15] <Jucato> jason__: KTorrent is installed by default in Kubuntu
[05:15] <jason__> Jucato: ahhhh, ok... sorry about that
[05:15] <Jucato> :-D
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: Are you using wpa_supplicant
[05:15] <judibet> Bonjour tout le monde !
[05:16] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: no. I have no wireless stuff
[05:16] <driz> bonjour
[05:16] <charlie5> Jucato: deb      http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/         dapper-backports     main restricted universe multiverse
[05:16] <charlie5> Jucato: and the same for deb-src
[05:16] <youssef> j'ai besoin d'aide mon systeme UBUNTU ne voit pas ma camera
[05:17] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: Sorry irssi is autocompleting wrong (I type a small j and it completes to you)
[05:19] (Jucato/#kubuntu) charlie5: I'll check it out...
[05:19] (jason__/#kubuntu) h3sp4wn: i know!  its bizarre
[05:19] (h3sp4wn/#kubuntu) jason__: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes look at that (if you are using wpa)
[05:19] (judibet/#kubuntu) Je ne sait mme plus utiliser irc :s... lol
[05:19] (driz/#kubuntu) clicker sur le nom
[05:19] (Jucato/#kubuntu) what the?!?!?!
[05:20] (Jucato/#kubuntu) who's in charge of the au.archive.ubuntu.com?!???
[05:20] <Jucato> charlie5: change the au.archive to just plain archive, for dapper-backports...
[05:21] <charlie5> lol ... ok, i'll give it a shot
[05:22] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: would you happen to know who's in charge of checking if the archive mirrors/server are updated?
[05:22] <jason__> h3sp4wn: am i using wpa?  no, i dont it at least... in kanotix i tell it no to wpa...
[05:24] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: No idea
[05:24] <Jucato> ok..thanks!
[05:24] <h3sp4wn> jason__: Anything other than wpa is completely insecure (even wpa is not that good security)
[05:24] <charlie5> Jucato: :) ... that's done the trick ... cheers
[05:24] <Jucato> charlie5: ehehe
[05:25] <auto> who can help me with wine-doors??
[05:25] <_lupine> wpa with a key less than ~8 characters (or longer if it's standard dictionar fare) is useless ;)
[05:26] <jason__> but the point now is that i am unable to connect ....
[05:26] <charlie5> Jucato: should i feel less than confident about the other 'au' repositories ? maybe i should change them all ?
[05:26] <jason__> can i disable wpa?
[05:27] <Jucato> charlie5: nah. dapper-backports was activated only very recently. the people in charge of the au.archives might not be aware of it yet
[05:27] <xunq> cannot connect to X server how can i fix it
[05:27] <xunq> help me pleaz
[05:27] <auto> who can help me with wine-doors??
[05:27] <charlie5> Jucato: great! thanks for your help
[05:30] <jason__> brb
[05:30] <auto> who can help me with wine-doors??
[05:32] <driz> hey does the bluetooth chat button work for intergrated Bluetooth
[05:32] <driz> ?
[05:32] <judibet> Hi !
[05:34] <judibet> Is somebody know how to appair a bluetooth device ?
[05:34] <henkie> jho
[05:35] <henkie> somebody alive
[05:35] <Martijn81> lots ;)
[05:46] <FedAgt> Can someone help me get my wireless working on an acer laptop please?
[05:46] <naros> Hey, anybody know how to mount digital camera, or mp3 player as normal user ? Because I can't, there is an uknow error.
[05:47] <lotusleaf> naros: are you using digikam?
[05:47] <naros> i tried
[05:47] <lotusleaf> naros: have you asked in #ubuntu? more eyes in there
[05:48] <naros> No, I will ask... thanks.
[05:48] <lotusleaf> naros: yw :)
[05:48] <naros> away
[05:48] <lotusleaf> naros: you might specify camera type and what you've tried accessing the devices with too
[05:49] <FedAgt> can anyone please help me get wireless working on my laptop?
[05:49] <judibet> Yes.
[05:50] <judibet> I  use Kubuntu in a laptop and in a family computer :).
[05:50] <FedAgt> judibet: thanks ive installed ndiswrapper and the driver, but when i tried 'modprobe ndiswrapper' i got no wireless connection
[05:50] <judibet> What's your problem in your wireless connection ?
[05:51] <Jonty> I was installing lots of packages using Synaptic, they had all downloaded and were installing, when I completely forgot and shut down, which stopped it. Is there a way of resuming?
[05:51] <judibet> Are your shure your access point is correctly configured ?
[05:51] <FedAgt> how would i do that?
[05:52] <CIMMA> hi
[05:52] <judibet> Hi.
[05:52] <CIMMA> cmd 'Inreq_ifstate' is invalid
[05:52] <CIMMA> which deb is missing
[05:53] <judibet> sudo apt-get uptdate
[05:53] <FedAgt> judibet: how would i set up my access point?
[05:53] <judibet> Fist...
[05:53] <judibet> An RJ-45 cble.
[05:53] <Aikurn> hi
[05:53] <CIMMA> ^^ sry no internet
[05:53] <judibet> Put it in the access point and your computer.
[05:54] <FedAgt> lol but im trying to do wireless
[05:54] <yuyu> hi there
[05:54] <Aikurn> is the dapper-backports repository active?
[05:54] <yuyu> anyone knows ahy amarok refuses to launch after today's update ?
[05:54] <judibet> Firstly you ave to configure your Wireless whith a cble !
[05:55] <judibet> You can't configure Wireless by Wireless !
[05:55] <FedAgt> i did on my pc
[05:55] <CIMMA> wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=disable --> an inxreq cmd is invalid
[05:55] <FedAgt> it wont do it on my laptop tho
[05:55] <yuyu> anyone expereiencing trouble with amarok today after the update ?
[05:55] <judibet> It's the same.
[05:55] <FedAgt> ok
[05:55] <lotusleaf> trouble meaning?
[05:56] <judibet> To configure wireless, you have to connect your computer whit the RJ45 in the access point.
[05:56] <FedAgt> ok ill try that thanks
[05:56] <judibet> If you have a problem, i'm here ;).
[05:56] <FedAgt> thanks =)
[05:57] <judibet> And for the WEP keys, it's in hexadecimal (abcdef ABCDEF 012345) ok ?
[05:57] <judibet> And for the WEP keys, it's in hexadecimal (abcdef ABCDEF 012345789) ok ?
[05:58] <yuyu> any amarok users here ?
[05:58] <judibet> Yes.
[05:58] <judibet> I use Amarok to.
[05:58] <lotusleaf> yuyu: what problems have you experienced with the update?
[05:58] <Jucato> yes
[05:58] <yuyu> lotusleaf, amarok does not want to launch anymore
[05:59] <lotusleaf> yuyu: run it from the command line and see what messages it gives, if any
[05:59] <yuyu> it says: amarok could not find sound -engine plusgins, please retry in a couple of minutes or recompile
[05:59] <judibet> Ah !
[05:59] <yuyu> it actually displays a dialog
[06:00] <judibet> Wait a minut, i search in the Wiki...
[06:00] <yuyu> nothing is written in the konsole
[06:01] <Xcalibur> OMG ppl!!!!!!
[06:01] <Jucato> ??
[06:01] <lotusleaf> ;_;
[06:01] <Xcalibur> after staying up ALL night, I found thr problem with my card
[06:02] <yuyu> judibet, did you update amarok today ?
[06:02] <lotusleaf> I stay up all night with my cards too, I even gave my sound card its own pillow to sleep on
[06:02] <Xcalibur> when you load kubuntu, it tries to load it's own driver
[06:02] <Xcalibur> for your card
[06:02] <Xcalibur> I had to ovverride it
[06:02] <yuyu> judibet, i'm trying to figure if i'me the only one with this issue...
[06:03] <judibet> Yes, I upgrade it, i will eard a sound to look that...
[06:03] <judibet> Wait...
[06:03] <judibet> For me it's ok.
[06:03] <yuyu> ok
[06:04] <yuyu> hmmm
[06:04] <judibet> Wait, i'll look in the Wiki again... :s
[06:04] <yuyu> strange
[06:04] <Xcalibur> I had to edi "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[06:05] <judibet> I looking here : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/formats_non-libres
[06:05] <Jonty> How do you install packages you've downloaded but not installed?
[06:05] <lotusleaf> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:06] <Jonty> any way of doing it to every one?
[06:06] <lotusleaf> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[06:06] <yuyu> sudo dpkg -i *deb
[06:07] <Jonty> "cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[06:07] <Jonty> I'm guessing that means I can't
[06:07] <Jucato> imbrandon or gnomefreak: would you guys happen to know who's in charge of checking the archive.ubuntu.com mirrors/servers? au.archive.ubuntu.com still has an empty dapper-backports, so people might not be able to get the new packages
[06:11] <judibet> yuyu ?
[06:11] <yuyu> judibet, yes?
[06:11] <judibet> lotusleaf ?
[06:11] <siddharth> hi
[06:11] <madman__> Jucato: I was reading the ubuntu book excerpt and came across something about that. the book has a lot of info on the ubuntu pepole
[06:12] <judibet> Hi.
[06:12] <judibet> Can you open Amarok ?
[06:12] <lotusleaf> judibet: what
[06:12] <yuyu> judibet, no
[06:12] <siddharth> can anyone tell me how to install sw on kubuntu plzzz
[06:12] <Jucato> madman__: heheh! I was asking 2 members of that ubuntu people group :-D
[06:12] <yuyu> Jucato, i'll try to close the kde session and see if it fixes the pb
[06:13] <Jucato> yuyu: what version of Amarok are you using, btw?
[06:13] <yuyu> Judibet, i'll try to close the kde session and see if it fixes the pb
[06:13] <siddharth> so how do u do it?
[06:13] <judibet> Ok.
[06:13] <yuyu> Jucato, 1.4.2
[06:13] <madman__> Jucato: well then, you have it from the maine folks
[06:13] <yuyu> qt 3.3.6, kde 3.5.2
[06:13] <judibet> But i think you have to download a package.
[06:14] <siddharth> can anyone tell me how to install sw on kubuntu plzzz
[06:14] <gnomefreak> Jucato: i think the backports team or the server maintainer (suggestion take the au. out of the repos and you should be fine) i cant remember where au defaults to
[06:14] <lotusleaf> siddharth: sw = ?
[06:14] <Jucato> gnomefreak: thanks! I'm fine. I'm just particularly concerned about the au. users :-D
[06:14] <mo_> hello
[06:14] <Jucato> someone was trying to upgrade KTorrent a while ago but wasn't able to, because of that
[06:15] <gnomefreak> i would (if that important) ask them to remove the au.
[06:15] <Jucato> yeah, I did. I wonder how many times I would have to tell people that :-D
[06:15] <mo_> can someone tell me how to integrate usegroups to kontact? i can't find taht option
[06:15] <Jucato> before, I would recommend people to change gb. to uk.
[06:16] <Jucato> siddharth: sw = software?
[06:19] <inteliwasp> what do i need to do to display the other window managers on the login screen?
[06:20] <ubuntu> hello people
[06:20] <Jucato> inteliwasp: they are automatically added to the "Session" menu when you install them
[06:20] <inteliwasp> Jucato:  ...strange, they arn't...
[06:20] <ubuntu> are there other chat rooms on here?
[06:21] <xwolf-> type /list and wait till next year
[06:21] <Jucato> ehehe
[06:21] <ubuntu> thanks
[06:21] <ubuntu> does it really take that long?
[06:21] <inteliwasp> sometimes :)
[06:21] <lotusleaf> ubuntu let me check
[06:21] <xwolf-> well, it will query for all the available chans in the network
[06:22] <lotusleaf> yes
[06:22] <mo_> can someone tell me how to integrate usegroups to kontact? i can't find that option
[06:22] <Jucato> there are many channelsin Freenode, but mostly open source stuff
[06:22] <ubuntu> i mean i have a very fast internet conection
[06:22] <Jucato> s/channelsin/channels in
[06:22] <yuyu> the pb is not fixed after a reboot
[06:22] <xwolf-> ubuntu you want to type /list *some*thing* for a more refined search
[06:22] <yuyu> however, i got a new error message
[06:22] <yuyu> "kde media manager is not running"
[06:23] <yuyu> any hints?
[06:23] <Jucato> yuyu: go to System Settings > KDE Components > Service Manager
[06:23] <Xcalibur> brb
[06:24] <Jucato> see if KDED Media Manager is checked
[06:25] <yuyu> Jucato, is that kdm?
[06:25] <Jucato> yuyu: no
[06:25] <yuyu> i have nop kded listed then
[06:25] <Jucato> System Settings > KDE Components > Service Manager
[06:25] <bkudria> kpersonalizer starts every time i start kde...how do i make it stop?
[06:26] <yuyu> Jucato, it is checked
[06:26] <yuyu> Jucato, and running
[06:26] <yuyu> should i restart it ?
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> bkudria, did you check ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:27] <Jucato> bkudria: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8041.0
[06:27] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: nah it's a Kubuntu "bug"
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, oh
[06:27] <yuyu> Jucato, i should go now. i'll be back later. thanks for the help
[06:27] <Jucato> yuyu: hm... maybe you could try that
[06:28] <Jucato> ok... I'm baffled by your problem, though
[06:28] <yuyu> Jucato, thanks a lot dude, i'll be back anyway ;)
[06:28] <bkudria> Jucato: thanks!
[06:29] <ubuntu> how do u edit this software
[06:29] <Riddell> ** knot 2 candidate CDs are up for testing **
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu, what do you mean "edit"
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> what are you trying to do
[06:29] <Jucato> ok I can loudly say "yay!" here
[06:29] <ubuntu> like what it saids on this disk
[06:30] <Jucato> Thanks Riddell!!! you're the man!
[06:30] <ravenous> where's the knot download site?
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu, yes i know, but is there anything in particular you want to do
[06:31] <Jucato> you would not be wanting to "edit" EVERYTHING
[06:31] <ubuntu> not sure what you can do on it can you give me some ideas
[06:31] <ubuntu> please
[06:32] <larson9999> i have an ati x200 embedded graphics card and every once in a while the screen goes pure white or maybe vertical stripes and i have to turn off the machine.  i finally found a site that gives what looks like a simple workaround.  however, i don't know what i need to do to implement it.  here is the workaround.  what do i need to do to implement this?:   "Im currently running with the runlevel as for the default installation, but wi
[06:32] <larson9999> th S10powernowd.early and S20powernowd removed, and the crashes are gone."
[06:32] <lotusleaf> What I'd like to know is, why the "resolution" area in KDE under the display options has been removed, where in previous versions in 3.5.x you could modify resolution without having to enable the feature by editing a text file... that's just... dumb
[06:32] <Jucato> lotusleaf: huh?
[06:32] <lotusleaf> Jucato: in KDE 3.5.3 and 3.5.4 the resolution configuration in display options is gone, unless you edit a text file to enable it
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> well you can change the settings as much as you want
[06:32] <Jucato> it's still here for me
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> add panels
[06:33] <ubuntu> the settings such as backgrounds
[06:33] <Jucato> lotusleaf: it's still here for me. check if kde-guidance is installed
[06:33] <ubuntu> etc
[06:33] <ubuntu> i can do
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> use multiple desktops, add a bunch of programs,,, etc
[06:33] <lotusleaf> Jucato: thx let me check
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> !nun
[06:33] <lotusleaf> Jucato: that's not it
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> !NUN
[06:33] <lotusleaf> Jucato: this was an issue I discovered a fix for on the kubuntu forums
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NUN - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> dang, oh well
[06:34] <lotusleaf> Jucato: maybe it's only happening to certain people
[06:34] <ubuntu> !ip
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <Jucato> lotusleaf: I still have the resolution settings in System Settings > Display
[06:34] <ubuntu> !ubuntu
[06:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:35] <lotusleaf> Jucato: ah so that's where it is, thanks.. right clicking on desktop and display doesn't show it but the way you suggested does! :)
[06:35] <Jucato> lotusleaf: err...
[06:35] <ubuntu> !linux
[06:35] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[06:35] <Jucato> ehehe
[06:36] <ubuntu> !knoppix
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <lotusleaf> Jucato: so it's missing from one menu but there in another! la la la!
[06:36] <lotusleaf> ;)
[06:36] <Jucato> I don't know what led them to that decision. but it make Kubuntu less XP-like and more Ubuntu-like
[06:37] <lotusleaf> ubuntu try /msg ubotu !whatever
[06:37] <lotusleaf> Jucato: hey at least it's there somewhere! :)
[06:37] <ubuntu> how about
[06:37] <ubuntu> !no
[06:37] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[06:37] <lotusleaf> Jucato: I usually use kcontrol not the settings area
[06:37] <Jucato> nixternal: will there be Live CD's for Knot 2? The links Riddel gave are for Alternate Install CD's. I can knot find yet a Live CD link...
[06:37] <lotusleaf> ubuntu then I'll ignore ;)
[06:38] <ubuntu> u do that
[06:38] <jdong> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060831/edgy-desktop-i386.iso
[06:38] <Jucato> lotusleaf: KControl > Peripherals > Display
[06:38] <nixternal> as soon as the knot is released there will be links yes
[06:38] <Jucato> jdong: thanks!
[06:38] <lotusleaf> Jucato: wow it's there too.. :)
[06:38] <driz> how do i install a tar.gz file>
[06:39] <Jucato> nixternal: <Riddell> ** knot 2 candidate CDs are up for testing ** (in here, too) :-D
[06:39] <ravenous> kcontrol is your friend ;)
[06:39] <lotusleaf> Jucato: for the resolution thing I never thought to look, I only used desktop right click display config ;) ha ha
[06:39] <Jucato> ehehehe
[06:39] <ravenous> where is the knot 2 link then?
[06:39] <ravenous> is that what jdong just posted?
[06:39] <Jucato> oh krap! Riddel did post a link to the live CD... I need my glasses. thanks jdong!!!
[06:39] <Martijn81> stupid attitude...
[06:39] <ravenous> nice
[06:40] <jdong> Jucato: lol :)
[06:40] <lotusleaf> driz tar zxvf whatever.tar.gz -> cd whateverthenameofthefilewaswithoutthetargzthough -> ./configure -> make -> sudo make install
[06:40] <lotusleaf> driz: also read the readme and install files before issuing the ./configure for information
[06:40] <Jucato> jdong: what's the preferred download method? (to help the server) direct or torrent?
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> torrent
[06:40] <jdong> Jucato: I'm not sure if there's any seeds yet
[06:41] <Jucato> ok, I'm going direct then.
[06:41] <jdong> Jucato: this is knot a real knot 2 cd.... just a candidate
[06:41] <Jucato> pardon the extreme bandwidth usage
[06:41] <jdong> I'm downloading direct for now
[06:41] <Jucato> jdong: yeah. I just can't wait for the real one. lol
[06:41] <jdong> :)
[06:41] <jdong> I'll seed the real one
[06:41] <Jucato> sorry, I meant can knot wait
[06:41] <jdong> :)
[06:41] <driz> lotusleaf: can you a bit more clear?
[06:42] <ravenous> is the real one coming out today still or no? obviously not if this is just a RC?
[06:42] <jdong> ravenous: the real one is coming out today
[06:42] <lotusleaf> driz: have you been to Ubuntu's help area? isn't it something like help.ubuntu.com ?
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> RCs are pretty good
[06:42] <Jucato> probably a few hours from now
[06:42] <lotusleaf> driz: there are a lot of helpful walkthroughs on using TAR on the web
[06:42] <ravenous> okay well ill wait for the real deal then ;)
[06:42] <driz> oh ok
[06:42] <Jucato> but it would knot matter, I'll just dist-upgrde...
[06:42] <driz> thanks i'll look them up
[06:43] <lotusleaf> driz: they can help you much faster and in more detail than I can ;)
[06:43] <driz> yup... thanks
[06:43] <Jucato> driz: in K Menu > Help > Kubuntu Desktop Guide, there's a section there about how to install things, I think
[06:43] <driz> ok
[06:43] <lotusleaf> driz yw
[06:43] <driz> yw?
[06:44] <driz> oh ok
[06:44] <driz> go it
[06:44] <Jucato> driz: but it will link you to this site after all: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[06:44] <Jucato> whoa! fast download speeds
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> man /nick people
[06:44] <Jucato> ??
[06:45] <Admiral_Chicago> * ubuntu (n=ubuntu@F9094.f.strato-dslnet.de) has joined #kubuntu
[06:45] <KaiHanari> Admiral_Chicago, no need. they just need to learn to use that connection box that pops up when they open xchat
[06:45] <Jucato> if they're using XChat..
[06:45] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i know
[06:46] <nino> hi all
[06:46] <Admiral_Chicago> but still i figured it ou
[06:46] <Admiral_Chicago> and i never used IRC before using ubuntu
[06:51] <Jonty> Right, my sound isn't working. Any pointers on where to start in finding out why?
[06:52] <lotusleaf> Jonty: tell us more about your sound card
[06:52] <Jonty> right
[06:52] <Jucato> or about what "sound isn't working" means?
[06:53] <Jonty> it can't find a mixer
[06:53] <Jonty> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[06:53] <justus> hello everybody
[06:53] <Jucato> Jonty: you have absolutely no sound?
[06:53] <Jonty> And xine can't load any audio drivers. I have ALSA installed
[06:53] <Jonty> It cannot find a mixer
[06:53] <lotusleaf> ah, I hate onboard sound
[06:53] <Jucato> KMix doesn't work?
[06:53] <Jonty> no
[06:53] <Jonty> Well
[06:54] <Jucato> hmmm
[06:54] <Jonty> "Mixer cannot be found"
[06:54] <lotusleaf> Jonty: have you checked kmix to make sure ac97 is unmuted
[06:54] <Jonty> "Mixer cannot be found"
[06:54] <Jonty> There's nothing there
[06:54] <lotusleaf> is kmix installed?
[06:54] <Jonty> YES
[06:54] <Jonty> I'm running it now
[06:55] <lotusleaf> odd, you could try asking in #ubuntu if you don't receive a definite answer here, and/or try posting on the forums
[06:55] <justus> hello
[06:55] <Jucato> or try asking crimsun if he's around... I heard he's the resident audio expert
[06:55] <lotusleaf> it should be something easy to fix
[06:55] <justus> anybody wanna chat with me?
[06:55] <Jonty> I was just wondering if there's any config file or application?
[06:55] <Jucato> justus: err...??
[06:55] <h3sp4wn> sudo alsamixer (move all the volume sliders up)
[06:56] <lotusleaf> Jonty: run a search on ubuntuforums.org about ac97
[06:56] <lotusleaf> yeah sometimes configuring alsamixer works too
[06:56] <lotusleaf> also alsamixergui is nice
[06:56] <Jonty> It's worked on FC4 and SUSE 10.0 and 1 out of the box, it's really odd
[06:57] <lotusleaf> Jonty: different distros have different experiences
[06:57] <Jonty> indeed
[06:57] <lotusleaf> Jonty: I've had issues with fedora and suse distros which I haven't on ubuntu
[06:57] <Jonty> I have too
[06:58] <Jonty> I've used linux for over a year, I'm aware of such intricacies
[06:58] <lotusleaf> Jonty: but onboard sound issue should be easy enough to resolve, I'm sure #ubuntu or the forums has an answer
[06:58] <Jonty> yeah
[06:58] <Jucato> [ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[06:58] <Jonty> and I though ac97 was fairly standard?
[06:58] <Jonty> hehe
[06:58] <Jonty> /nick, mon ami
[06:58] <lotusleaf> Jonty: even on Windows, onboard sound is crap compared to a sound card
[06:59] <Jonty> I'll investigate
[06:59] <Jucato> I'm also using ac97..
[06:59] <Jucato> but mine is VIA
[06:59] <Jucato> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[07:02] <Jonty> What's odd, though, is that it's not I can't hear anything, but that there's no /dev/mixer or /dev/dsp
[07:03] <Jucato> hm.. I have those 2...
[07:03] <vikke> hello, im having some problems mounting iso files, I get something like "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0" if someone see the prob
[07:04] <Jucato> !iso
[07:04] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:05] <Hawkwind> vikke: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /full/path/to/foo.iso /mnt/some/mount/point/you/created
[07:06] <Jucato> yay! Hawkwind to the rescue!!
[07:06] <vikke> hawkwind: thats the exact command ive trid over and over but it doesent seem to work
[07:07] <Hawkwind> vikke: Where is the .iso file located that you are trying to mount ?  Is it on your harddrive ?
[07:07] <Frederick> folks anyone here uses mingw for crosscompilation?
[07:07] <justus> can somebody help me?
[07:07] <Hawkwind> justus: Ummm, with ?
[07:08] <vikke> hawkwind: the .iso is located in the home folder, im trying to mount it to a folder i created called "/mnt/iso
[07:08] <Hawkwind> vikke: Have you tried using sudo ?
[07:08] <Jucato> sudo mount?
[07:08] <Jucato> rawr! you beat me to it...
[07:09] <Hawkwind> vikke: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /home/user/file /mnt/iso
[07:09] <vikke> hawkwind: yes ofcourse, otherwise it tells me, i can paste the error msg if you want (its not too long)
[07:09] <Hawkwind> Jucato: That's what happens since I type over 100 words per minute :P
[07:09] <josh__> hey, what do I use to edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I tried using Kate, but it woln't let me save?
[07:09] <Jucato> lol
[07:09] <Xcalibur> ok
[07:09] <Jucato> vikke: use pastebin
[07:09] <Hawkwind> Jucato: kdesu kate
[07:09] <Jucato> !pastebin
[07:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:10] <Hawkwind> Ermm
[07:10] <vikke> oki
[07:10] <Jucato> lol
[07:10] <Xcalibur> what prog I use
[07:10] <Xcalibur> ?
[07:10] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: kdesu kate /file
[07:10] <Jucato> Hawkwind: that's what you get for typing 100 words per minute
[07:10] <justus> Hawkwind, i said, i am looking 4 a gurlfriend, i don't have any
[07:10] <Jucato> justus: this isn't the place for that
[07:10] <Hawkwind> Jucato: He changed his nick :P
[07:10] <Xcalibur> what?
 Jucato: kdesu kate <--- no, this one
[07:10] <justus> huh.....uh
[07:11] <Jucato> ah ok.. I get it
[07:11] <vikke> Hawkwind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22164
[07:11] <justus> why do u think so, jucato?
[07:11] <Xcalibur> i can't get kate to let me save it
[07:11] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yeah. I typed J(hit the tab key) but he had changed his nick.  My nick completion goes by last spoke in the channel not in any kind of alphabetical order
[07:11] <Xcalibur> what i do?
[07:11] <Jucato> the topic says: *** The channel topic is "Kubuntu Support Channel
[07:11] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: I told you
[07:11] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: kdesu kate /file
[07:11] <Xcalibur> in konsole?
[07:12] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: kdesu allows you to edit the file as root/super user
[07:12] <Jucato> in Konsole or in Alt+F2
[07:12] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: Well of course
[07:12] <Jucato> or, you can right-click n the file and choose Actions > Edit as Root
[07:12] <Xcalibur> ok
[07:12] <Jucato> speaking of service menus...
[07:12] <xwolf-> which will open kwrite.
[07:12] <Hawkwind> vikke: Where is it getting /dev/loop0 from ?
[07:13] <Jucato> Hawkwind: would you have any idea why the Kubuntu Package Menu uses xchat instead of konsole? making kubuntu-desktop dependent on xchat?
[07:13] <Jucato> xwolf-: you can set it to launch Kate instead
[07:13] <Hawkwind> vikke: Are you 100% sure it's an .iso file and not labeled as one
[07:13] <xwolf-> Jucato ...in default :)
[07:13] <Jucato> ehehe
[07:13] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Heh no idea on that one.  Gotta remember, I don't use KDE at all
[07:14] <Jucato> err....
[07:14] <Jucato> what do you use again?
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Jucato: E17
[07:14] <Jucato> ah yeah...
[07:14] <Jucato> sorry about that...
[07:14] <springman> how do i install ati drivers for this os
[07:14] <Jucato> what's E17's file manager, btw?
[07:14] <driz> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[07:14] <Jucato> !ati
[07:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:14] <springman> thanks
[07:14] <Jucato> driz: is "build-essential" installed?
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Jucato: No problem.  I do know quite a bit about KDE though.  I do make rpms of it for Mandriva and use it in other tty's to get somewhat familiar with it
[07:15] <driz> jucato: what is that?
[07:15] <Hawkwind> Jucato: E17 doesn't really have one.  It's got entropy and efm but they are still very beta
[07:15] <Jucato> it's what you need to compile things
[07:15] <Hawkwind> driz: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:15] <Jucato> Hawkwind: which is why I didn't try to install E17 yet. but E17 on Elive made me drool
[07:15] <ravenous> i use konq under e17 myself
[07:15] <vikke> Hawkwind: well yes, i have used it in another os, and it has a .iso file ending
[07:16] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I use konqueror though as my file manager since you can use any app in any wm and it works all the same
[07:16] <Hawkwind> vikke: Have you tried with the -o loop part of the command ?  I'm sure that will fail too though
[07:16] <Jucato> Hawkwind: which leads me back to my question... Kubuntu Package Menu service menu :-D
[07:17] <jdong> Jucato: that sounds really wrong :)
[07:17] <Jucato> which one jdong?
[07:17] <Jucato> :-D
[07:17] <jdong> "package service menu" :D
[07:17] <Jucato> lol...
[07:18] <vikke> Hawkwind: i type the following, sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /home/full_iso_path/file.iso /mnt/iso
[07:18] <Jucato> Kubuntu Package Menu servicemenu....
[07:18] <Hawkwind> vikke: Leave out the -o loop   part of that command
[07:18] <Jucato> still sounds wrong...
[07:19] <vikke> Hawkwind: it just tells me its not a block device, and that i should try -o loop
[07:19] <Jucato> jdong: but would you know the answer to my original question? :)
[07:19] <jdong> Jucato: what's the question
[07:20] <Hawkwind> vikke: Strange.  I really don't know then.  Sounds to me like it might not be an actual valid ISO image
[07:20] <Jucato> would you have any idea why the Kubuntu Package Menu uses xterm instead of konsole? making kubuntu-desktop dependent on xterm?
[07:20] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Ohhh, you said xchat above
[07:21] <Jucato> oh yeah.. sorry about that Hawkwind
[07:21] <Jucato> it's almost 1:30 am here...
[07:21] <gamxx> how to add fvwm to kdm?
[07:21] <vikke> Hawkwind, yes indeed, its getting quite irritating cus a few ppl have faild to help too, ill try with another .iso file, thanks for help
[07:22] <Hawkwind> vikke: IIRC you can type this:  file file.iso  and it will tell you what actual file type it is
[07:22] <Jucato> "sudo aptitude update" then "sudo aptitude install fvwm" or do it all in Adept
[07:22] <dan_> can someone help me with k3b
[07:22] <Jucato> hmm... I wonder what "file Hawkwind" will spit out...
[07:22] <gamxx> Jucato: thx...
[07:22] <dan_> i'm trying to make an audio cd using mp3's but it says its an unsupported fiel format
[07:22] <jdong> Jucato: I don't know :-/
[07:22] <jason_> Anybody know of a work around for the iRiver H10?
[07:23] <Hawkwind> Jucato: LOL you don't want to know.  Probably give you a 'syntax error' :P
[07:23] <driz>  error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:23] <driz> i dont know whats going on
[07:23] <driz> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:23] <Hawkwind> driz: sudo apt-get install libxorg-dev or xorg-dev
[07:23] <Jucato> dan_: try installing " libk3b2-mp3"
[07:23] <ravenous> dan_; need to add the mp3 lib, 'sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3'
[07:23] <dan_> ok cool thanx
[07:24] <Jucato> jdong: oh ok, thanks anyway. It's just one of those "unnecessary" dependencies. In Dapper, Kopete is dependent on XMMS. thanks again
[07:24] <dan_> awesome i'll try it now
[07:24] <dan_> thank you
[07:25] <jdong> Jucato: kopete is not dependent on xmms :-/
[07:25] <jdong> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/kopete
[07:25] <Jucato> jdong: er...
[07:25] <Jucato> hold on...
[07:25] <jdong> I've got kopete on all my kubuntu boxes and no xmms
[07:25] <driz> another question how do i connect to this computer from work using a windows computer
[07:25] <driz> ?
[07:25] <jdong> driz: what do you want to do? remote desktop? get files off it? etc
[07:26] <xwolf-> ssh?
[07:26] <Hawkwind> driz: Putty for Windows
[07:26] <Jucato> jdong: I'm doing an apt-cache for a while...
[07:26] <driz> I have putty installed on it already tried to get it to work bu nothing
[07:26] <jason_> iRiver H10 USB I can not make my system see it
[07:27] <jdong> Jucato: you might be right
[07:27] <jdong> though I think that was introduced in kubuntu.org repos
[07:27] <Jucato> I know someone asked Riddel about it and he said that Kopete was...
[07:27] <Jucato> Hopefully it's not the case in Edgy...
[07:27] <Hawkwind> driz: sudo apt-get install ssh  on your Kubuntu box
[07:28] <phreakys_> hi
[07:28] <Jucato> which is another reason forme to test it. yay!
[07:28] <Hawkwind> driz: Then you can use Putty to connect to your Kubuntu box from work
[07:28] <phreakys_> i just installed wings3d from repos, but the version seems pretty messed up
[07:28] <driz> oh ok no wonder thanks
[07:28] <jdong> Jucato: it's not in edgy :-/ just kubuntu.org I guess
[07:28] <Jucato> aaah
[07:28] <xwolf-> how different is edgy from dapper right now? (speaking of eye-candy features and alike)
[07:28] <Jucato> silly silly kubuntu.org *snickers*
[07:29] <driz> all i have to do is install it Hawkwind or I have to configure something on this computer also
[07:33] <Hawkwind> driz: Just install it and it should start it by default.  To verify, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:34] <adz21c> anyone know how to change what /dev/dsp is? I have a webcam (with mic) and sblive. It appears /dev/dsp is my webcams mic or something because anytime something is set to that for sound it doesn't work. However soon as i change it to /dev/dsp2 it work (e.g. TeamSpeak .... also my OSS test in cedega fails unless i call "aoss cedega"). How ould I change my sblive to be /dev/dsp (i.e. the default some apps seem to use)?
[07:35] <Bud_Spencer_> make a symlink?
[07:36] <adz21c>  /dev/dsp is taken by my webcam
[07:36] <adz21c> that would mean overwriting would i would think would not be good?
[07:36] <adz21c> which*
[07:36] <trappist> adz21c: dsp is your soundcard
[07:36] <Bud_Spencer_> mh...
[07:36] <Bud_Spencer_> your right.
[07:36] <adz21c> dsp appears to be my webcams mic
[07:37] <trappist> as in digital sound processor
[07:37] <adz21c> dsp seems to me my sound card
[07:37] <adz21c> dsp2*
[07:37] <Bud_Spencer_> In which configuration does it work, how you want it to.
[07:37] <Bud_Spencer_> ?
[07:37] <Bud_Spencer_> mom
[07:38] <Bud_Spencer_> which soundsystem are you using?
[07:38] <h3sp4wn> dsp = digital signal processor (doesn't habe to be for sound)
[07:38] <adz21c> well basically my OSS test on cedega fails and teamspeak doesn't work. I found deleting asound.state and rebooting solves it ... till i reboot again ... don't know why. Then also i went into teamspeak and set /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp2 and all was well ... but i don't wanna do that for everything
[07:39] <Bud_Spencer_> i dont know.
[07:40] <adz21c> so i want to just switch dsp and dsp2 (which i am guessing is what probably happens when I reboot after deleteing asound.state)
[07:42] <driz> huuuu Hawkwind: when i try that sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start it says [failed] 
[07:43] <Hawkwind> driz: Did you install ssh ?
[07:43] <driz> yyup
[07:44] <Hawkwind> driz: Ahh, because it's already running then
[07:44] <Hawkwind> driz: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[07:44] <Hawkwind> driz: Then do: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:45] <driz> oh ya cool Thanks a WHOLE lot man the xorg is working now ssh installed... gotta love linux community
[07:45] <driz> thanks and later
[07:45] <xwolf-> Hawkwind, what port does the ssh server listen?
[07:46] <adz21c> does anyong know if asound.state is generated at each boot? as I have found its content is as follows http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22168. appears dsp is state.U0x46d0x8b2, dsp1 stat.UART (which is empty ... which I guess is why I don't have a dsp1 in /dev) and state.Live is dsp2 ... so I was thinking switching state.live and state.U0x46d0x8b2 see if that does it ... sound reasonable? Of course if its generated on boot it would over
[07:46] <Hawkwind> xwolf-: 22
[07:46] <xwolf-> ok
[07:46] <Hawkwind> !port ssh
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about port ssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, guess this bot doesn't have the ports module
[07:47] <trappist> it's 22 by default
[07:47] <trappist> grep ssh /etc/services
[07:48] <Hawkwind> trappist: Yeah I mentioned that.  I was hoping the bot would have the ports module to find ports easier :)
[07:48] <trappist> Hawkwind: poke Seveas :)
[07:48] <Hawkwind> My bots have it and it makes those not so common ports easier to figure out
[07:51] <josh__> ok
[07:51] <xwolf-> !e17
[07:51] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[07:52] <Xcalibur> how do i make it so I can edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist again?
[07:52] <ravenous> hm
[07:53] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: We told you, kdesu kate /file
[07:53] <Xcalibur> i know, but i forgot :-P
[07:53] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: Start taking notes :)
[07:53] <Xcalibur> lol
[07:53] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: Or log the channel and grep them
[07:54] <Xcalibur> lol
[07:54] <ravenous> ..
[07:54] <Hawkwind> What was funny about that ?
[07:54] <Xcalibur> nuthing, except that i have so many probs with linux :-$
[07:54] <Xcalibur> lol
[07:54] <ravenous> it all comes with time
[07:55] <Xcalibur> omg
[07:55] <Xcalibur> somone show me how to use patebin
[07:55] <Xcalibur> paste*
[07:55] <Xcalibur> I got something to tell ya
[07:55] <Xcalibur> !pastebin
[07:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:57] <Xcalibur> go here - -http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22169
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Is your e17 repo going to be updated to provide source soon i.e deb-src currently it seems its a binary only repo
[07:57] <xwolf-> this enlightenment thing is kinda preety, actually..
[07:58] <xwolf-> pretty*
[07:58] <lotusleaf> "Our current schedule for releasing the final version of Flash Player 9 for Linux is early 2007." gotta love closed source time lines
[07:58] <Xcalibur> somone going to read my pastebin?
[07:58] <phreakys_> hi
[07:59] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Hopefully soon enough yes.
[07:59] <adz21c> well that didn't work
[07:59] <Xcalibur> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22169
[07:59] <phreakys_> i just dled filezilla and unpacked everything in my userdir. where am i supposed to copy the files normally speaking?
[07:59] <abattoir> Hawkwind: hi :)
[07:59] <abattoir> Hawkwind: could you pls. give Xcalibur the link for the X error messages?
[08:00] <Xcalibur> sorry, if my newb ness is stinking up this channel
[08:00] <lotusleaf> phreakys_: filezilla.. doesn't that just have a binary you can run/
[08:00] <phreakys_> yea
[08:01] <lotusleaf> phreakys_: then it's up to you where you want to copy it, if it all
[08:01] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[08:01] <phreakys_> but all programs seem to be in a specific directory in linux
[08:01] <abattoir> http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=94a045f7057cbba9b48514dbf396d626&topic=581;prev_next=next
[08:01] <phreakys_> isnt there a standard way of doing those things?
[08:01] <Hawkwind> Anyone know the command to to open konsole with more than one tab ?  I thought it was konsole --tab but it seems it's not
[08:02] <cobras> hi,i tried to do an update and i get "
[08:02] <cobras> Errhttp://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[08:02] <cobras>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[08:02] <cobras> Errhttp://www.beerorkid.com dapper Release.gpg
[08:02] <cobras>   Could not connect to www.beerorkid.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[08:02] <cobras> Errhttp://gr.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[08:02] <cobras>   Cannot initiate the connection to gr.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:648:2000:de::211).
[08:02] <cobras> sorry for the flood
[08:02] <ninHer> Hawkwind: are you using Kde or Gnome ?
[08:02] <ninHer> XD
[08:02] <fdoving> cobras: please don't paste into the channel use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:03] <fdoving> cobras: disable ipv6.
[08:03] <fdoving> if you don't want to use it...
[08:05] <Hawkwind> ninHer: Heh I got it worked out actually
[08:06] <ninHer> cheers !!
[08:09] <intelikey> startx error    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d22170    thoughts ?
[08:10] <intelikey> also notable; trying to run X nosuid     that does pertain.
[08:16] <intelikey> nobody good at trubble shooting x  ehh...
[08:19] <jdong> intelikey: I'll probably lose interest pretty fast, but what's your x problem?
[08:20] <jdong> nvm, saw your pastebin
[08:20] <jdong> that's really whacked out
[08:20] <SeanTater> intelikey: there was recently a break in that package, have you done sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:21] <jdong> SeanTater: it does not look like that's the issue
[08:21] <jdong> the breakage looks different than that
[08:21] <milian_> is something logged when my system creates a hard freeze and theres nothing to do except pushing the reset button? If so - in which file should I look?
[08:21] <jdong> intelikey: did your X ever work?
[08:21] <intelikey> SeanTater it runs fine for root.
[08:21] <SeanTater> milian_: I think so
[08:21] <SeanTater> milian_: it;s in /var/log
[08:21] <intelikey> jdong it still works fine for root.
[08:22] <SeanTater> milian_: try dmesg
[08:22] <jdong> intelikey:
[08:22] <jdong> ls -alh /usr/bin/X
[08:22] <jdong> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 18K 2006-07-27 20:55 /usr/bin/X
[08:22] <jdong> intelikey: check your ls -alh /usr/bin/X output
[08:22] <milian_> and it's somewhat suspicous that my /var/log/faillog looks like it's binary... a cat gives me `tty1 ` and in nano i see a lot of @ in a line...
[08:22] <milian_> ok, i'll do that - thanks SeanTater
[08:22] <SeanTater> milian_: try zless
[08:22] <intelikey> jdong it's not suid.  the whole system is nosuid
[08:22] <SeanTater> milian_: it could be gzipped
[08:22] <jdong> intelikey: that's why then
[08:22] <jdong> intelikey: X needs to be suid root
[08:23] <intelikey> it can't be on this system.
[08:23] <jdong> intelikey: why not? what are you trying to do?
[08:23] <intelikey> the whole system is mounted nosuid
[08:23] <SeanTater> intelikey: not even sudo or su ?
[08:23] <jdong> X needs root access to interface with the graphics system, end of story...
[08:23] <ravenous> no root, no x
[08:23] <intelikey> SeanTater correct.
[08:23] <jdong> intelikey: why is the whole system mounted with nosuid??
[08:23] <milian_> nope, zless gives me a lot of @^ ...
[08:23] <SeanTater> intelikey: If you want security, I imagine that's not the way
[08:24] <milian_> (thats the same as nano)
[08:24] <SeanTater> milian_: then your system could have been in trouble even before it crashed
[08:24] <jdong> milian_: most likely one of your freezes/resets corrupted faillog
[08:24] <SeanTater> milian_: buffer overflow might do something similar to that
[08:24] <fdoving> milian_: /var/log/faillog should be binary. use 'faillog' to read it.
[08:24] <milian_> yeah, it's not the first time I get those freeze crashes. think it's my system that doesnt like amarok (but I like it and cant do without it) :/
[08:25] <milian_> har, thanks fdoving :)
[08:25] <intelikey> well no body has told me how to get this to work.   i already knew that the assumed answer is "it can't"    but it will.    thanks for the thoughts guys.
[08:25] <ravenous> not assumed, you dont run x without root
[08:25] <jdong> intelikey: the only solution is to have root (i.e. gdm/xdm/kdm) launch your X sessions for your users
[08:25] <SeanTater> intelikey: try something less drastic
[08:25] <jdong> intelikey: root is required for X to start, either in the form of root or suid root
[08:26] <intelikey> no that's not the only solution....
[08:26] <milian_> hmm, but the last error shown in faillog doesnt fit to the time my pc crashed the last time
[08:26] <intelikey> it's the easy one
[08:26] <jdong> intelikey: oh?
[08:26] <jdong> umm
[08:26] <jdong> that is the only solution
[08:26] <SeanTater> intelikey: you might want to remove setuid from processes one by one, and then fix problesm when they arise
[08:26] <ravenous> well thats news to the whole channel then
[08:26] <SeanTater> intelikey: not processes, executables, sorry
[08:26] <jdong> well sure, I guess you can hack the kernel to give regular users more access to the PCI subsystem
[08:27] <jdong> that's the not easy solution :P
[08:27] <fyyrest0rm> Hi guys. Another question/problem/whatver. Last night vid card fan crapped out on me. Bought a new card today (same model but co-branded).. installed it, now can't do my screen res higher than 1024x768? Card is capable of more than than. What am I missing?
[08:27] <milian_> is there a way to convert the timestamps in dmesg (those are timestamps - or?) to something human readable?
[08:27] <intelikey> jdong ok, now that's a thought.  :)
[08:27] <jdong> intelikey: umm, that's less secure than letting startx be setuid root :)
[08:27] <jdong> milian_: those are seconds since bootup
[08:27] <jdong> milian_: not timestamps
[08:28] <jdong> milian_: they added them in dapper's kernel to make bootup hangs easier to spot
[08:28] <SeanTater> fyyrest0rm: I think this will help, but it's not especially easy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:28] <soulrider> hi everyone
[08:28] <SeanTater> fyyrest0rm: it fix the same problem in mine
[08:28] <SeanTater> soulrider: hello
[08:28] <milian_> so could you tell me how I should interpret something like that: `17179660.172000`
[08:28] <fyyrest0rm> SeanTater: Why not easy? I've not done that before..what does it do?
[08:29] <SeanTater> fyyrest0rm: it asks you a bunch of questions about your video card, some of which I know very little about
[08:29] <fyyrest0rm> SeanTater: ahh..I'll give it a shot then. Thanks
[08:30] <abattoir> !repos
[08:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:31] <SeanTater> I want to change the web page konqueror opens up to, how might I do that?
[08:31] <SeanTater> It's doesn't actually open up the "home url", whcih makes little sense
[08:32] <fdoving> SeanTater: go to the URL you want, and use settings -> save view profile
[08:32] <Xcalibur> I think i'm just gonna give up, I followed the tut that hawkind gave me, but still no luck
[08:32] <jdong> SeanTater: using -phigh will have dpkg-reconfigure ask fewer questions :)
[08:32] <SeanTater> fdoving: ah, okay!
[08:33] <fdoving> Xcalibur: one last shot. what is your problem?
[08:33] <SeanTater> jdong: that guy already left
[08:33] <SeanTater> jdong: but I will file that for future referense
[08:33] <SeanTater> jdong: /reference/
[08:33] <Xcalibur> my wirelessg adapter for my laptop keeps disbabling when I enable it
[08:33] <Xcalibur> i have the drivers installed with ndiswrapper
[08:33] <fdoving> Xcalibur: what's its name and number?
[08:34] <fdoving> Xcalibur: ndiswrapper sucks. just as a sidenote.
[08:34] <Xcalibur> well, whats an alternative to ndiswrapper
[08:34] <Xcalibur> and
[08:34] <SeanTater> !wifi
[08:34] <fdoving> depends on your card.
[08:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:34] <Xcalibur> its the linksis wireless-g
[08:34] <ravenous> ndiswrapper works fine for me, dont know where the 'sucks' comes from
[08:35] <fdoving> ndiswrapper isn't that bad, i've just never got it to work reliably.
[08:35] <Xcalibur> wpc54gv3
[08:35] <Xcalibur> thats the model
[08:35] <ravenous> its harder for me to get the kernel support working for me than ndiswrapper heh
[08:36] <Xcalibur> then what can I use
[08:36] <Xcalibur> besides ndiswrapper?
[08:37] <ravenous> if its not supported in the kernel i dont know what choice you really have other than ndiswrapper
[08:37] <Xcalibur> fdoving?
[08:38] <fdoving> Xcalibur: hang on.. i'm googling for you.
[08:38] <Xcalibur> ok
[08:38] <Xcalibur> thanx
[08:38] <Ash-Fox> Is there some way I can tell apt-build some build flags for a appliation (in my case it's firefox, and I want to build the QT version, in this case it's passing --enable-default-toolkit=QT to the configure script)
[08:38] <fdoving> Xcalibur: did you follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper ?
[08:39] <Xcalibur> h/o
[08:39] <fdoving> Xcalibur: i can see that others with the same card have it working.
[08:40] <Xcalibur> I followed it, but i guess not all the way
[08:40] <fdoving> Xcalibur: try to follow it all the way.
[08:40] <Xcalibur> ok
[08:40] <Xcalibur> ill be back with the results
[08:41] <ravenous> ive heard rumors 3.5.4 is unstable, anyone running it?
[08:42] <ravenous> laptop?
[08:42] <ravenous> er
[08:42] <Hawkwind> Nope.  I reverted back to 3.5.3 due to too many problems with K apps running outside of KDE that work fine in 3.5.3
[08:42] <ravenous> hm
[08:43] <jdong> ssh -C jdong-laptop "cat /home/jdong/junk/edgy*.iso" | cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc driveropts=burnfree -
[08:43] <jdong> hehehe
[08:43] <jdong> somehow I don't think that was wise :)
[08:43] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: get the source with 'apt-get source packagename' edit debian/rules for the package. 'dch -i' to increment the version number of the package. then from within the unpacked-source-directory run: 'debuild -us -uc'  to build the package.
[08:43] <jdong> but it sure saves me 700MB of space
[08:44] <fdoving> ravenous: 3.5.4 on dapper makes some problems. don't know if it is fixed yet. but i don't recommend upgrading unless backing up ~/.kde
[08:44] <fdoving> 3.5.4 is stable in edgy though.
[08:45] <jdong> my experiences match fdoving
[08:45] <jdong> 3.5.4 in dapper won't break anything, but has some glitches
[08:45] <ravenous> excellent, just what i needed to know, ill hold off for now
[08:45] <jdong> i.e. kwallet being permanently hidden, some antialiasing strangeness
[08:46] <Xcalibur> g2g reboot, hope this works
[08:46] <Xcalibur> brb
[08:47] <ravenous> thats what ubuntu needs is better touchpad support .. theres a couple QT apps that work well if you have a synaptics touchpad, (ksynaptics, qsynaptics), but if its an alps afaik there is no gui program to change any of that, its diving into xorg.conf
[08:47] <ravenous> i beat my head on the wall with my alps ;/
[08:48] <fdoving> ravenous: did you try 'tpconfig' i haven't tried it, but it exists.
[08:49] <ravenous> fdoving: ill take a look
[08:50] <fdoving> just found it using 'apt-cache search alps' don't know if it is usable to you.
[08:50] <ubuntu> Hi!
[08:50] <ravenous> worth a try i hadnt ever seen the app mentioned on the forums for some reason
[08:50] <ubuntu> Wanna talk
[08:54] <Xcalibur> well, I have good news, and bad news
[08:54] <Xcalibur> bad news is, my card still aint workin'
[08:55] <fdoving> and the good news?
[08:55] <Xcalibur> good news is, i just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to geico
[08:55] <Xcalibur> lol
[08:55] <fdoving> heh :)
[08:55] <Xcalibur> but, you heard that other ppl had the same card as me, and they have it working?
[08:57] <fdoving> Xcalibur: second comment: http://techrepublic.com.com/5254-6257-0.html?forumID=99&threadID=173893&messageID=1972703&id=1383826
[08:57] <Xcalibur> did ya?
[09:00] <Xcalibur> wow
[09:00] <Xcalibur> he does have it
[09:00] <Xcalibur> but I followed the tut, I have the lates ndiswrapper
[09:00] <Xcalibur> latest*
[09:00] <Xcalibur> correct drivers too
[09:01] <atomic> alguem fala portuges
[09:01] <abattoir> !pt
[09:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:02] <atomic> ok
[09:02] <abattoir> atomic: ^^^
[09:02] <fdoving> Xcalibur: could you post the output of 'lspci -v' to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com ?
[09:08] <Xcalibur> ok
[09:08] <Xcalibur> wait a sec
[09:11] <Xcalibur> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/780848
[09:11] <Xcalibur> thers the response
[09:12] <jdong> !br
[09:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:12] <jdong> umm, again, is "Por favor _use_" really portugese?
[09:14] <stewart> sorry but i have a nood question please
[09:14] <stewart> hahaha noob
[09:14] <stewart> ?
[09:14] <abattoir> stewart: sure, ask...
[09:14] <stewart> with adept update i always get the break (install)
[09:15] <stewart> i have looked around and edited the sources.list
[09:15] <stewart> but  no love
[09:15] <Redrose> I installed ubuntu, but i want to get rid of gnome and install KDE how do i do that?
[09:15] <LoneWolf071> I installed ubuntu, but i want to get rid of gnome and install KDE how do i do that?
[09:15] <abattoir> stewart: could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[09:15] <stewart> sure 1 sec
[09:15] <abattoir> LoneWolf071: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' would get you kubuntu
[09:16] <abattoir> and i'm guessing 'sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop' would remove the gnome desktop
[09:16] <ravenous> getting rid of gnome once kde is there is another thing altogether ;/
[09:16] <stewart> pastebin?
[09:16] <abattoir> !pastebin
[09:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:16] <Xcalibur> brb
[09:16] <abattoir> sorry
[09:16] <stewart> can i pm u abattoir
[09:17] <abattoir> sure, but if you ask here, more people might be able to help(if i cant)
[09:17] <stewart> k 1 sec
[09:17] <abattoir> but you can definitely pm me if you want
[09:18] <stewart> is this it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22177
[09:18] <GeneralZod> LoneWolf071:http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[09:19] <stewart> yeah ?
[09:21] <stewart> ?
[09:21] <stewart> sorry if im been a pain
[09:21] <abattoir> stewart: sorry...
[09:21] <ravenous> april when?
[09:21] <abattoir> no, you arent being a pain...
[09:21] <stewart> thanks
[09:21] <abattoir> this channel is intended for helping people like you
[09:22] <abattoir> stewart: ok, looks good, try 'sudo apt-get update' in a terminal
[09:23] <stewart> done
[09:23] <abattoir> stewart: 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[09:23] <abattoir> stewart: this makes sure you have all the latest packages installed
[09:24] <stewart> abbatoir - k doing the install now.........
[09:25] <stewart> abattoir- where are you from (while i wait) i am australian but in holland at the moment
[09:25] <abattoir> stewart: i'm in singapore atm
[09:26] <stewart> abattoir: just been there, is it still hot
[09:26] <abattoir> stewart: yes, kinda :)
[09:27] <fdoving> Xcalibur: you can use the bcm43xx driver.
[09:28] <fdoving> Xcalibur: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:28] <ravenous> good luck with that lol
[09:28] <ravenous> thats the same one i was complaining about earlier
[09:29] <fdoving> I use that driver now. works perfectly.
[09:29] <fdoving> with wpa and all.
[09:29] <fdoving> works with network-manager too.
[09:30] <ravenous> could never get it working, switched to ndiswrapper, works with network-manager fine as well
[09:31] <stewart> all: i have to mention this, i was just using SUSE and my athereos 5005G drivers had heaps of issues, now i switched it all works great in kubuntu
[09:31] <nlindblad> evening
[09:31] <stewart> i didnt have to do any setups
[09:31] <abattoir> stewart: cool :)
[09:31] <ravenous> well thats good to hear
[09:31] <jdong> stewart: we try to make things work great out of the box :)
[09:31] <ravenous> atheros should have good support in any linux heh, too bad for suse
[09:31] <nlindblad> stewart: SuSE lacks some driver capabilities in 10.1
[09:31] <jdong> any linux driver that we can legally include, we include
[09:31] <nlindblad> stewart: they chose not to include certain drivers for WLAN-cards
[09:32] <stewart> yep its awsome thanks guys
[09:32] <ravenous> i dont think i can even buy absinthe hear
[09:32] <stewart> yepo kubuntu kicks suse
[09:32] <ravenous> gah
[09:32] <stewart> ;)
[09:33] <ravenous> im having a heck of a time getting used to this irc client and which channel im in, sorry ;p
[09:37] <stewart> hi am i still connected
[09:38] <abattoir> stewart: yes, you are
[09:39] <stewart> im having a heck of a time with my wireless
[09:39] <stewart> its very week here
[09:39] <stewart> lol
[09:39] <stewart> weak
[09:41] <stewart> abattoir:  i am having issues now
[09:41] <abattoir> stewart: what's the problem?
[09:41] <stewart> i have just re-run the apt-get update
[09:42] <now3d> Hello, I just upgraded using J. Riddel's KDE 3.54 repository on dapper, unfortunately now my fonts are no longer anti-aliased in the whole of KDE... any ideas?
[09:42] <stewart> and it says
[09:42] <stewart> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:42] <stewart> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:42] <stewart> not having a good time of it lol
[09:42] <abattoir> now3d: tried changing it in kcontrol?
[09:43] <abattoir> stewart: do 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[09:43] <ravenous> stewart: you've got adept or something else running using dpkg
[09:43] <gnomefreak> stewart: sounds like you have synaptic open while tryignt o run apt in terminal
[09:43] <gnomefreak> or adept :(
[09:43] <abattoir> stewart: its probably because your previous apt-get instance wasnt closed...(or you opened adept_
[09:43] <abattoir> )
[09:43] <now3d> abattoir: Hmm, i didnt change anything when i ran the apt-get  dist-upgrade..  where hsould I look in kcontrol pls?
[09:44] <stewart> yep all worked ill let u know when i have finished the download
[09:44] <abattoir> now3d: was just an idea... its under Appearance->Fonts
[09:44] <Tenebrys> Hi.  Mind if I ask for help on some soundcard issues I'm having?
[09:45] <Tenebrys> ...oh wait... got it fixed.
[09:46] <now3d> abattoir: OK.. thanks. I'ts turned on there.. all my fonts are now set to DejaVu Sans... is that a sensible default?
[09:46] <abattoir> now3d: yes, afaik that's the font which ships default w/ dapper too
[09:46] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to find the configurator that, well, configures the sleep and power-down capabilities of my computer.  I see something in System Settings -> Display -> Power Saving, but that's it.
[09:47] <now3d> abattoir: it only broke after i rebooted... i figured i should do that after the dist-upgrade
[09:47] <abattoir> now3d: have you tried fiddling around w/ the settings there?
[09:48] <abattoir> Ertain: isnt there a 'Power Management' option...
[09:48] <now3d> abbattoir: Not much.. i'll turn things on and off and see if there is a difference./. are you all using 3.54 too?
[09:48] <stewart> abattoir: yep all done
[09:48] <abattoir> now3d: yes, i am
[09:48] <abattoir> stewart: ok, now open up adept, and see if you still get those messages
[09:48] <now3d> abattoir: did your anti-aliasing stop working when you upgraded?
[09:49] <now3d> abattoir: or do you know if anyone elses broke?
[09:49] <ravenous> lots of ppl's antialiasing broke
[09:49] <ravenous> many ppl here have had to downgrade to 3.5.3
[09:49] <Ertain> abattoir: I don't see a "Power management" option.  For some strange reason, I have a "Laptop & Power" option.
[09:49] <abattoir> now3d: i think i have heard some cases about that...
[09:49] <abattoir> Ertain: could you try that?
[09:50] <Ertain> I have; it isn't what I need.
[09:50] <now3d> abattoir: ah.. is there an FAQ or something? I couldnt spot anything on google..?
[09:50] <stewart> abattoir: adept looked like ikt was opening but i see nothing on the screen
[09:50] <stewart> abattoir: i have had this a few times
[09:50] <now3d> abattoir: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/kcontrol/?rev=551202&view=rev this is the only change i could spot
[09:51] <abattoir> now3d: on problems about upgrading to 3.5.4? I'm not sure an official one exists, apart from the README.. maybe something at the forums?
[09:51] <ravenous> if your upgrade/update is still running you cant run adept
[09:52] <stewart> nope i dont think anything is running
[09:52] <stewart> the icon will bounce for 20sec then nothing
[09:52] <ravenous> run it from terminal and see if you get an error
[09:52] <ravenous> kdesu adept
[09:52] <abattoir> stewart: could you try restarting(or restarting X atleast) ?
[09:53] <now3d> abattoir: seems it is bust on FC5 too.... http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131899
[09:53] <_lupine> adept dies remarkably easily when you have dodgy repos in yours sources.list
[09:53] <_lupine> I managed to kill mine repeatedly while trying to set up a repository ;)
[09:53] <abattoir> now3d: aah, you meant 'non-KDE(qt)' apps?
[09:54] <now3d> abattoir: well.. for me it is every app, even Konversation
[09:54] <stewart> ok it opened from the console
[09:54] <stewart> thanks
[09:54] <ravenous> thats  wierd
[09:54] <now3d> abbatoir: Ok, back in a sec, going to restart X and cross my fingers
[09:55] <SonicChao> Probably n00bish question: but what can I use to make Audio CDs?
[09:55] <_lupine> k3b
[09:55] <abattoir> SonicChao: K3B
[09:55] <_lupine> snap ;)
[09:55] <SonicChao> abattoir: K ty =)
[09:56] <h3sp4wn> SonicChao: cdrecord or k3b - k3b is just a frontend to cdrecord
[09:56] <abattoir> SonicChao: if you plan on converting mp3s, then you might need libk3b2mp3
[09:56] <now3d> abattoir: Ok, changing "General" to somethign else, and then back again fixed it for all KDE applications too
[09:56] <SonicChao> abattoir: I need to burn MP3
[09:56] <abattoir> libkd32-mp3, rather
[09:56] <abattoir> !info libk3b2-mp3
[09:56] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB
[09:57] <abattoir> aargh...^^ thats the right one
[09:57] <stewart> abattoir: i just wanna test it now what things do i need to make this play mp3
[09:57] <SonicChao> abattoir: Does that come with K3b?
[09:57] <abattoir> stewart: you'd need to add universe to your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[09:57] <stewart> i thknk its something like libk3b2-mp3
[09:57] <abattoir> SonicChao: it is not installed by default, you'd need to enable universe
[09:57] <abattoir> !universe
[09:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:58] <SonicChao> abattoir: I have all that enabled -- I've been using it for a while, i just never had the need for Audio CDs
[09:58] <abattoir> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu has kubuntu specifics
[09:58] <abattoir> SonicChao: then 'sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3' or getting it through adept would do
[09:58] <SonicChao> abattoir: Ok. =)
[09:59] <Tokeiito> laba vakara (good evening)
[09:59] <stewart> abattoir: which one do i add for universe
[10:00] <abattoir> stewart: did i say universe? i meant multiverse, sorry
[10:00] <stewart> oh k
[10:00] <abattoir> its really late here... and am very sleepy :(
[10:01] <stewart> no problem im getting the same
[10:02] <now3d> abattoir: thanks for your help
[10:02] <abattoir> now3d: :)
[10:02] <now3d> abattoir: if anyone else gets the same problem, there is a bug i commented on bugs.kde.org about it
[10:03] <abattoir> now3d: aah, ok, the fix was to restart X ?
[10:04] <stewart> abattoir: yep that is done
[10:04] <stewart> what was it i have to install...sorry
[10:04] <abattoir> stewart: ok, now a 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:04] <SonicChao> abattoir: What about .wma? How do I get those on a CD?
[10:04] <stewart> abattoir: so i will have to do this everytime i change the reps
[10:05] <SonicChao> abattoir: Or do I need to convert them? (how would I go about doing that?)
[10:05] <abattoir> stewart: libxine-extracodecs should get mp3 to work w/ amarok(and kaffeine)
[10:05] <abattoir> !codecs
[10:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:05] <abattoir> stewart: ^^ that page has more comprehensive info
[10:05] <abattoir> SonicChao: i'm not sure about wma handling in k3b
[10:05] <now3d> abattoir: well, restarting caused it, I changed the "General" font from what DejaVu Sans... Apply, then back agian, then Restart X,...  bizarre, dont know what it actually changed to fix it
[10:05] <SonicChao> abattoir: Ok, so is there a way to convert it to mp3?
[10:05] <abattoir> for converting, i think you'd need lame and a wma decoder... wait a sec
[10:06] <SonicChao> abattoir: Ok.
[10:06] <now3d> cya every1
[10:07] <h3sp4wn> I thought wma was handled by some part of ffmpeg or w32codecs
[10:07] <abattoir> SonicChao: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29024 might help
[10:07] <stewart> abattoir: i installed that but amaro still loads it but dosnt play it
[10:07] <stewart> says playlist finished always
[10:07] <Jonty> I can't play CDs. I don't have permission apparently, even though I ticked it in Users and Groups, and I'm definately in the cdrom group
[10:07] <abattoir> stewart: could you try restarting amarok(if you had it open when you installed the package)
[10:07] <Jonty> I created this user with useradd so don't assume any defaults
[10:07] <KDEfanboy> so is the xorg update safe now?
[10:07] <SonicChao> abattoir: Is that in the repos?
[10:07] <h3sp4wn> Jonty: Are you in the audio group
[10:08] <abattoir> !info soundkonverter
[10:08] <ubotu> soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.1.99+0.2beta2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 744 kB, installed size 1584 kB
[10:08] <abattoir> SonicChao: ^^^ yes
[10:08] <stewart> abattoir:  ahhh i forgot it runs from the taskbar
[10:08] <stewart> all good now
[10:08] <stewart> thanks mate
[10:08] <Jonty> yes
[10:08] <stewart> abattoir:  you ar a star
[10:08] <abattoir> stewart: no problem :)
[10:08] <stewart> abattoir:  have a good sleep
[10:08] <Jonty> h3sp4wn: I am in the audio group
[10:09] <abattoir> heh, thanks :)
[10:09] <jexsie> Hi.....
[10:09] <SonicChao> abattoir: Ty again. =D
[10:09] <abattoir> SonicChao: np, again :)
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> Jonty: can you play cd's if you launch amarok with kdesu amarok ?
[10:09] <Tokeiito> is there any soft to clear libs which isn't in use (hasn't dependencies in my OS)?
[10:09] <Chousuke> deborphan
[10:10] <Tokeiito> thank you Chousuke
[10:11] <Jonty> h3sp4wn: I'm ripping it with KAudioCreator, and yes, it does work with sudo
[10:11] <Jonty> But like every good Linux user I'm suspicious of GUI apps running in root
[10:12] <Jonty> and I want it working :D
[10:12] <h3sp4wn> So am I but that guarantees its some type of permissions problem
[10:12] <Jonty> indeed
[10:12] <Jonty> nothing funny about restarting or anything?
[10:13] <Jonty> I checked fstab, and there's no mention of groups accessing it there, so I'm guessing it's done by another app?
[10:13] <Jonty> (it has the user and noauto options)
[10:13] <h3sp4wn> what is the permissions of /dev/hdc (presuming that is the cdrom)
[10:13] <_lupine> maybe your normal user needs to be added to the 'disk' group?
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> root:cdrom with 660 is the standard permissions on the device afaik
[10:14] <Jonty> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 64 2006-08-31 20:24 /dev/hdd
[10:14] <_lupine> ah, the cdrom group then :)
[10:15] <angelaki> who can help me with wine-doors?
[10:15] <_lupine> (I was looking at the wrong hd??)
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> 21:06 < Jonty> I can't play CDs. I don't have permission apparently, even though I ticked it in Users and Groups, and I'm definately in the cdrom group
[10:15] <Jonty> thanks
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> Maybe it cannot be that but I can't see how
[10:16] <Ertain> Hello once again, everyone.  So... Does anyone have an idea on why I can't change my power-saving settings?
[10:21] <misieq> where kde stores icons for apps, like adept?
[10:21] <_lupine>  /usr/share/icons IIRC
[10:21] <_lupine> definitely /usr/share
[10:22] <Ertain> Might anyone know about changing power settings?
[10:26] <Oellinas> hello
[10:26] <angelaki> who can help me with wine-doors?
[10:26] <Oellinas> can someone help me find ipw2200 in deb package
[10:27] <crimsun> Oellinas: it's already included in linux-image-$(uname -r), why?
[10:29] <Oellinas> my driver version is too old and in several places i cannot connect to many wireless networks
[10:29] <Xcalibur> yo
[10:29] <Xcalibur> !wifi
[10:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:30] <Oellinas> thanks you
[10:34] <ubuntu> #murcia
[10:35] <black_>  I need help to configure my grug menu list
[10:35] <black_>  I use kubuntu, but now I have installed slackware 10.2
[10:43] <soulrider> heye veryone
[10:43] <soulrider> is anyone having trouble when they connect a microphone ?
[10:43] <soulrider> everything sounds like crap when i connect mine
[10:44] <Larynx> wai cant i mount my hd?
[10:44] <soulrider> what error do you get ?
[10:44] <Larynx> let me boot up and check ^^
[10:44] <soulrider> and what type of fs does it use ?
[10:44] <soulrider> mind you, im not pro
[10:44] <NossCire> Is there any good programs for kubuntu/ubuntu for file splitting?
[10:46] <_lupine> NossCire: tar option -M might be what you're looking for
[10:46] <soulrider> is there a way to make a deb file with the file sinside a tarball ?
[10:47] <soulrider> so i can uninstall more easily
[10:47] <slougi> soulrider: you might want checkinstall
[10:47] <Larynx> mount: cant find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:47] <Larynx> :<
[10:47] <soulrider> even if i didnt compile ?
[10:48] <slougi> soulrider: what exactly do you mean?
[10:48] <soulrider> well, i downlaoded teamspeak
[10:48] <soulrider> its already compiled
[10:48] <soulrider> so instead of umpakcing toa  folder
[10:48] <_lupine> Larynx: what it says on the tin, really. Hardware failure?
[10:48] <soulrider> i wanna amke a deb file
[10:48] <soulrider> so i can unintsall it with dpkg
[10:48] <slougi> ah, not sure
[10:49] <Larynx> _lupine: say what?
[10:49] <_lupine> soulrider: just have a tarball in the data.tar.gz file
[10:49] <intelikey> where are the manuals for kdm ?
[10:49] <soulrider> i got a tar.gz file
[10:49] <_lupine> Larynx: ubuntu can't find your hard drive. So it could be a hardware failure. Or it could be data corruption
[10:49] <soulrider> mind you, i never really used these files
[10:49] <soulrider> so im not sure fo how they work
[10:50] <_lupine> soulrider: have you ever created a .deb before?
[10:50] <slougi> soulrider: use alien, if I grok the man page properly you can just do "sudo alien -d foo.tar.gz"
[10:50] <SeanTater> ubuntu: considered a more unique nick ?
[10:51] <Larynx> _lupine: o rly? its just that its a 40gb hd that somehow got split into two pieces and the other half is working fine
[10:51] <_lupine> ya rly ;)
[10:51] <soulrider> _lupine: i have created debs from source, yes
[10:51] <_lupine> most likely data corruption of some form then
[10:51] <Larynx> :S
[10:51] <Larynx> should i reinstall?
[10:51] <_lupine> can you get in to check your FS at all? Live CD is good for this
[10:52] <_lupine> soulrider: forget me. alien is the way to go for this one
[10:52] <Larynx> Lurkan__: doesnt say what sf it has. what should i do with the livecd
[10:52] <_lupine> (I thought you were wanting a .deb which installed a .tar.gz file somewhere)
[10:52] <soulrider> k, ill look for alien
[10:53] <soulrider> but id ont think googliong "alien" might work :P
[10:53] <_lupine> !alien
[10:53] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[10:53] <_lupine> is it just me, or does ubotu have a nervous twitch? ;)
[10:53] <Larynx> _lupine: doesnt say what sf it has. what should i do with the livecd
[10:54] <ubuntu_> ..
[10:54] <intelikey> Larynx might i sujest 'testdisk'
[10:54] <Larynx> intelikey: whats that?
[10:54] <_lupine> Larynx: if you boot up into the live CD, you can try mounting your hard disc partition, etc
[10:54] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: Have a look at the motu package building guide - make your own debian/rules that just does nothing for the compiling part and just copies for the install part (look at a binary driver for an example with apt-get source)
[10:55] <intelikey> !testdisk > Larynx
[10:56] <Larynx> sweet
[10:59] <intelikey> someone that knows kdm/xdm/gdm please speek up and tell me where to put  "xlogin.Login.allowNullPasswd:   True"   and if that's the correct syntax ???
[11:00] <fnTc^spNk> someone who knows how to fix my driver problem? :\
[11:00] <intelikey> if i can't get that to work i'm back to hacking X to run without root rermissions.
[11:01] <soulrider> ohh by thw way
[11:01] <Larynx> _lupine: i cant mount none of my partitions with the livecd
[11:01] <soulrider> in 2 weeks in my college you will be able to take your comp
[11:02] <soulrider> and have linux installe don it by a pro
[11:02] <soulrider> i wodner if theyw ill be installing ubuntu
[11:03] <intelikey> soulrider paying someone to install linux.... ?
[11:03] <soulrider> no
[11:03] <soulrider> for free
[11:03] <soulrider> duringt hat day we wont have classes
[11:03] <intelikey> professional == gets paid for it...
[11:03] <soulrider> and one of the teahcer said that there will eb this palce where if you take your comp
[11:03] <soulrider> they will install linux
[11:03] <soulrider> pro as in a dude that knows a lot :P
[11:04] <Larynx> :)
[11:04] <soulrider> lets hope theya hve ubuntu :)
[11:04] <intelikey> expert != professional
[11:04] <intelikey> :)
[11:04] <soulrider> expert, whatever :P
[11:05] <intelikey> sounds like a kewwl deal soulrider :)
[11:05] <Kronos> soulrider: take in a CD or two. :)
[11:05] <soulrider> this is my first year at college so i dont really know how it is
[11:05] <soulrider> but lets hope lots of people take their comps :)
[11:06] <soulrider> im gonna trya nd eprsuade my friends to do it
[11:06] <soulrider> since they suck and use windoze
[11:06] <intelikey> collage people type funny....
[11:06] <intelikey> :)
[11:06] <soulrider> im the king of typ0s
[11:07] <intelikey> i abdoacate
[11:07] <soulrider> :/
[11:07] <intelikey> ab(doa)cate  hehhe dead on arival
[11:07] <soulrider> didnt know that
[11:08] <intelikey> a-knee-way    anybody know *dm setup ?
[11:09] <Larynx> how do you make a dial-up connection?
[11:09] <intelikey> or is that a_knee_weigh
[11:09] <saurav> hiiiiiiiiii everyone
[11:09] <intelikey> Larynx wvdial from cli  kppp from kde
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: You want to stop X being suid root
[11:10] <Larynx> intelikey: uhu..
[11:10] <Azzco> hi I'm trying to change picture in /system settings/users but it says that I'm not allowed by administrator...
[11:10] <intelikey> h3sp4wn nothing is suid  it's all mounted nosuid
[11:10] <intelikey> h3sp4wn got any pointers ?
[11:10] <fnTc^spNk> how do i change my X module version or NV version?
[11:11] <fnTc^spNk> coz X says they are different :(|
[11:11] <intelikey> fnTc^spNk the drive for X is described in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:12] <fnTc^spNk> but i dont get what to change
[11:12] <fnTc^spNk> it says API mismatch
[11:12] <intelikey>         Driver          "nv"
[11:12] <br1> hello there .. I just installed newest Kubuntu from install CD, and I now have problems enabling mp3 playback. Multiverse is in sources.list, but "apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" says "E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate" .. anyone know of this ?
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: I have no idea whether it can even be done with xorg - xwrapper used to do what you need but I don't think it even exists anymore
[11:12] <fnTc^spNk> Nvidia driver version 1.0.8762 and X module version 1.07174
[11:12] <fnTc^spNk> and they have to be the same
[11:13] <Kr4t05> br1: pastebin your sources.list
[11:13] <intelikey> fnTc^spNk you have to use the kernel that it's compiled for.  i think it's 2.6.23 something
[11:13] <fnTc^spNk> i already have that one installed
[11:14] <exobuzz> is it me, or does kopete not support any kind of logging/history ?
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> fnTc^spNk: Do you have restricted enabled for dapper-security ?
[11:14] <fnTc^spNk> no
[11:14] <intelikey> h3sp4wn but xwrapper was suid  no ?
[11:15] <br1> Kr4t05: http://pastebin.com/780928 .. sorry for all the "failed to verify" lines, but I installed without a network
[11:16] <br1> Kr4t05: by my reckoning line 30 would give me the required reposotories ?
[11:16] <intelikey> updated sense that changed ?
[11:17] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update    maybe.
[11:17] <br1> apt-get update ? .. yeah, I think so, wasnt paying too much attention .. other "ugly" codecs are available and installed ..
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: I think it was but it dropped priv s
[11:17] <fnTc^spNk> brb gonna try something
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Have you tried using the framebuffer video driver ?
[11:18] <intelikey> h3sp4wn k.   well do you know anything about enabling passwordless login via *dm ?
[11:18] <br1> intelikey: libarts1-xine is installed, at least .. but I was under the impression that I needed libxine-extracodecs to enable Amarok to play mp3s ..
[11:19] <Kr4t05> br1: at the end of the "universe" line, be sure to add "multiverse"
[11:19] <Kr4t05> br1: make this:
[11:19] <Kr4t05> #
[11:19] <Kr4t05> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[11:19] <intelikey> h3sp4wn sure i even built fb into my kernel so i can watch vidios in the konsole   @ h3sp4wn
[11:19] <Kr4t05> br1" this: deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[11:20] <Kr4t05> multiverse
[11:20] <Kr4t05> br1: I botched that... ><
[11:20] <intelikey> he's saying add multiverse to that line
[11:20] <br1> Kr4t05: okay, so using all those keywords on line (like line 30 in my sources.list) is not effective in giving me access to all of them ?
[11:21] <intelikey> they can be on one line   yes.
[11:21] <Kr4t05> br1: add "multiverse" to the end of line 20.
[11:21] <br1> Kr4t05: okay, will add to line 20 ..
[11:22] <chovy> how do i install the latest package of something?
[11:22] <intelikey> "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse "    and one like that for security is all you need really.  on for updates if you like.
[11:22] <intelikey> s/on/one/ ^
[11:23] <intelikey> chovy anything you install will be the latest in the repos you have enabled.
[11:23] <intelikey> unless you specify a version.
[11:24] <br1> intelikey and Kr4t05; that nailed it, thank you guys .. I don't quite understand why this didn't work with line 30 as on pastebin, but the line 20 edit made me go fuzzy all over .. now I can get back to my CockRockDisco songs :-)
[11:25] <intelikey> chovy  you can do   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade      to make sure all your installed packages are the latest, if you like.
[11:25] <br1> this is my first desktop adventure with *ubuntu, and I must say it lives up to (most of) the hype .. everything kinda works (wpa was a bit fuzzy), but all over goodness in abundance ..
[11:27] <NossCire> I've tried splitting files using tar, but I don't get how i'm supposed to do it... I know how to add files to a tar, but how do I set how many/how large the different tar's are supposed to be?
[11:27] <intelikey> br1 it will let you down.  give it time.   the hype is way out of purportion...
[11:28] <br1> by the way, on this brand new Thinkpad P60 the e1000 network interface is not recognised by driver or lspci, anyone know where I can submit PCI ID for inclusion ?
[11:28] <chovy> intelikey: what if a package i want isn't in kubuntu?
[11:28] <intelikey> chovy name ?
[11:28] <chovy> intelikey: i don't know, a beta release of something.
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Have you tried using driver "fbdev" if the framebuffer is already working
[11:29] <br1> intelikey: well, I've been around for a while, and altough I love GNU/Linux with all of my heart and use it for all servers and development, I haven't been able to shake the windows desktop habit yet .. "everything just works" (at least a bit better) .. both alsa and X have given me enough grief for a lifetime
[11:29] <intelikey> chovy is this a hypocritacle   errr hypothetical situation ?
[11:30] <Languid> how can i revert from Amarok 1.4.2 to Amarok 1.4.1?
[11:30] <intelikey> h3sp4wn in xorg you mean ?
[11:30] <_lupine> Languid, apt-get install (package)=(version) works
[11:31] <_lupine> but wasn't the previous version 1.3.9 ?
[11:31] <intelikey> !info amarok
[11:31] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: just use that instead of what normal video driver you use (in xorg.conf) - if you can access the framebuffer from the console maybe you can start X in that way
[11:32] <intelikey> h3sp4wn looking into that now.
[11:32] <chovy> intelikey: yes
[11:33] <intelikey> !tarball > chovy
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tarball - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <intelikey> !source > chovy
[11:33] <Languid> _lupine: automatix had a 1.4.1 version
[11:34] <intelikey> that's not it. chovy i thought that would explain source packages  it doesn't
[11:34] <Languid> all i know is that cover art (folder.jpg) is broken in 1.4.2
[11:34] <intelikey> chovy you build and install by hand.  that's the hypo answer
[11:35] <intelikey> ohhh apt-get done apt-got and error for me.
[11:35] <intelikey> dpkg: error processing gksu (--configure):
[11:35] <intelikey>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[11:36] <ravenous> i think she's just dressed up like a devil and some perv through it on a bsd box, if chicks regularly wore hot penguin uniforms for halloween we'd have some pictures to rock too ;)
[11:38] <arthomps> so... amarok with most recent update doesn't play flac's?  this problem was in http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-142 dapper main.  but didn't expect it to go into dapper trunk.
[11:38] <Azzco> check www.ubuntu.com and on wiki , restricted formats
[11:38] <Azzco> omg sorry lol was reading something posted long long ago XD wont happen again
[11:38] <arthomps> np :)
[11:40] <arthomps> problem is libxine i think.
[11:40] <fnTc^spNk> how do i see my kernel version?
[11:41] <arthomps> uname `r
[11:41] <arthomps> err uname -r
[11:42] <fnTc^spNk> thx
[11:42] <fnTc^spNk> 2.6.15-26-k7 :\
[11:52] <liviux> Hi all. I'm an kubuntu user from little time, so I would to ask you why in Its there isn't the "normal" system for the root administration?
[11:53] <otaku-san> liviux: "normal"?  Do you mean why does kubuntu have sudo?
[11:54] <liviux> yes
[11:54] <liviux> and not su
[11:54] <otaku-san> !su
[11:54] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:54] <otaku-san> read that
[11:54] <liviux> yes but the password it's the same of user admin
[11:55] <liviux> That's correct?
[11:55] <fnTc^spNk> Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. <-- anyone knows how to solve that problem?
[11:55] <liviux> however thanks
[11:55] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: install it :)
[11:55] <fnTc^spNk> there is none for my kernel
[11:55] <fnTc^spNk> i cant find it
[11:55] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: chances are, you only need the headers
[11:56] <fnTc^spNk> but what headers
[11:56] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: what's the out put of uname -a ?
[11:56] <otaku-san> liviux: yes that pass is the same as user admin
[11:56] <fnTc^spNk> Linux ramon-desktop 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:40:32 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:56] <liviux> ok  thank you
[11:56] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: where did you look for the source or headers?
[11:56] <fnTc^spNk> adept
[11:57] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: let's look together on packages.ubuntu.com
[11:57] <fnTc^spNk> wait im not in X
[11:57] <fnTc^spNk> coz im trying to install nvidia drivers
[11:57] <red> anyone know if there is a wireless config option to automatically connect to wireless networks.  like the feature in windows xp
[11:58] <otaku-san> liviux: real quick do you mean if the password is the same as what the user admin has...I know that whatever pass you set when you install kubuntu will be for everyone unless you set-up more accounts
[11:58] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: I'm finding the packages linux-headers-2.6.15-26-k7 and linux-image-2.6.15-26-k7, should be in adept/apt/synaptic.
[11:58] <atomic> pt
[11:59] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: hmm, wondering about this PREEMPT thingy...?
[12:00] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[12:00] <fnTc^spNk> thougt i already installed them
[12:00] <fnTc^spNk> what do u mean Sanne ?
[12:00] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk:  Linux ramon-desktop 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT
[12:00] <atomic> canais pt
[12:00] <fnTc^spNk> i dunno
[12:00] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: that preempt
[12:00] <fnTc^spNk> wich means?
[12:00] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: where did you get your kernel from?
[12:01] <fnTc^spNk> uhm
[12:01] <fnTc^spNk> adept i guess
[12:01] <liviux> I understand
[12:01] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: I think it means one of the preemption methods, has to do with low latency, if I'm correct.
[12:01] <fnTc^spNk> low latency from what?
[12:01] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: do you have any unofficial repositories enabled, by any chance?
[12:02] <fnTc^spNk> Sanne: yes
[12:02] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: low latency with regard to audio, for example. Musicians need that.
[12:02] <fnTc^spNk> lol
[12:02] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: could it be that your kernel is from one of those unofficial sources?
[12:02] <fnTc^spNk> well i dont think so... but it could be
[12:02] <otaku-san> liviux: Cool.  Good luck!
[12:03] <misieq> !fonts
[12:03] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[12:03] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[12:03] <liviux> oh you're verry kind
[12:03] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: *if* it is, you may need to hunt for the source/header package there. I'm just a bit confused about PREEMPT in uname -a, maybe it means nothing and you can use the padder headers.
[12:03] <Sanne> s/padder/dapper   lol
[12:03] <fnTc^spNk> hmm the nv installer works now
[12:04] <fnTc^spNk> lol
[12:04] <fnTc^spNk> uh
[12:04] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: you have a reason to not use the nvidia packages from ubuntu?
[12:04] <lunahood> i have installed kutuntu just now; now i receive an error during kdesu adept: http://rafb.net/paste/results/yUZ3Gk25.html
[12:04] <fnTc^spNk> Your driver installation has been altered since it was initially installed
[12:04] <fnTc^spNk> Sanne: i cant play games with those
[12:05] <fnTc^spNk> at least, i didnt got it working yet
[12:05] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: ok, that's a reason. What happens if you try to play games with them?
[12:05] <fnTc^spNk> opengl error
[12:05] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: is your card recent?
[12:06] <fnTc^spNk> 7800GT, so yes
[12:06] <fnTc^spNk> i guess
[12:06] <Sanne> oh yes, it is
[12:06] <atomic> canais portuges quais sao
[12:06] <fnTc^spNk> lol
[12:06] <fnTc^spNk> Sanne:  i got it working
[12:06] <fnTc^spNk> but
[12:06] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: the packages should work, if they don't, it's either user error or a bug.
[12:06] <fnTc^spNk> now i can hardly see anything
[12:06] <Sanne> heh
[12:06] <fnTc^spNk> probably user error
[12:07] <red> i deleted konquerer from my main menu, how do i get it back
[12:07] <fnTc^spNk> well i used old driver from nvidia
[12:07] <fnTc^spNk> coz the newer ones werent working :s
[12:07] <fnTc^spNk> and this one didnt support my card
[12:07] <fnTc^spNk> but i thougt i could try
[12:07] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: what a pity, with your 7800GT, I would think you would benefit from the newer drivers.
[12:08] <fnTc^spNk> yeah
[12:08] <fnTc^spNk> but im not playing any recent games :p
[12:08] <atomic> as to install realplayer in kunbuntu
[12:08] <fnTc^spNk> have to get the newer ones working u guess
[12:08] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: did you use any guides or howtos for correctly installing the ubuntu packages? Can be a bit tricky at times.