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Laser123454321How do i enable support for backlight on a Toshiba Satalite in Ubuntu 6.1002:17
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Redrosehello all!02:21
Laser123454321hey can you help me with this?02:21
Laser123454321How do i enable support for backlight on a Toshiba Satalite in Ubuntu 6.1002:21
RedroseI can help you laser02:23
Laser123454321yes please02:23
Redroserebuild your kernel02:24
Laser123454321is that it?02:24
Laser123454321i thought there was native support02:24
Redrosenot unless it was built into the kernel originally02:24
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defendguinwhen does knot 2 get released?02:25
crimsunlate this week02:28
defendguinyou think testing it with the live CD would be enough?02:31
crimsun"enough" for what use cases?02:31
defendguinworking out this craptastic audio bug02:31
crimsunwhich audio bug?02:31
crimsunand it's unlikely. Edgy's audio support trails Dapper's unless you're speaking of the aoa driver.02:32
defendguinthe one where normal sound is fine but when i play a dvd the volume is below normal unless i put on my headphones02:32
crimsunyou can test that right now if you compile alsa-driver 1.0.12 yourself02:33
crimsundoesn't matter if you use warty, hoary, breezy, dapper, or edgy02:33
defendguinid rather not mess with the packaging system02:33
crimsundid you mean you'd "rather not compile anything"?02:34
crimsunthere's no reason you couldn't use any live cd and recompile alsa-driver 1.0.1202:34
defendguinill just install edgy in my 4 gig diagnostic/restore partition02:35
crimsunif you're paranoid, just use a live cd02:36
defendguinits not like im ever going to resotre this laptop to the way the factory shipped it02:36
defendguinrestore*02:37
defendguinand i need to get hibernation working02:40
crimsunsorry, I'm quite far from an acpi guru, though there is someone [whose client is]  present who is much closer to that02:40
defendguinhow many knots will there be?02:41
crimsun"as many as there need to be"02:41
mjg59Hi02:41
mjg59Did someone say acpi?02:41
defendguinlol02:41
mjg59I'm been chasing up hibernation stuff02:42
mjg59It ought to work better under edgy02:42
defendguinmjg59: yeah hibernation hasn't worked for me since beta 6 in dapper02:42
mjg59(Yes, I realise that I've said that sort of thing before)02:42
mjg59It's utterly fucked in edgy right now02:42
mjg59Ought to improve with the new kernel02:42
crimsunhopefully in knot 3 I suspect.02:43
defendguin:(02:43
defendguinmjg59: when you say new kernel what version number did you mean?02:43
mjg59-702:44
defendguini don't suppose edgy is going to get an accelerated X02:45
defendguinwhen mark said they were going to take some chances with this release thats the first thing that came to mind but i havent seen anything of it 02:46
crimsun..."an accelerated X"?02:47
mjg59X has always been accelerated02:48
defendguinsorry 02:49
defendguinXgl is what I mean02:49
mjg59Oh02:49
mjg59Xgl is in edgy02:49
mjg59But aiglx is in main02:49
defendguinwhat do you mean main?02:50
defendguindapper?02:50
mjg59No02:50
mjg59The main distribution02:50
mjg59Rather than universe02:50
defendguinahhh02:50
defendguini c02:50
defendguinit should work out of the box or do you have to hand configure it?02:52
mjg59It works out of the box02:53
defendguinsounds good.  I never saw a lot of tutorials for setting it up in dapper if you had an intel graphics card02:54
defendguineverything was nvidia or ati related02:55
defendguinwell as soon as knot2 is released i'll grab it then start my bug reporting02:57
defendguinmjg59: how can i tell what is happening when i try to hibernate but it never hibernates.  It just looks like it is going down then comes right back up03:01
mjg59defendguin: dmesg may be helpful03:02
defendguinhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/40471   notice my last comment here03:04
mjg59dmesg may be helpful03:06
defendguinmjg59: ok i added an attachment with the dmesg output03:12
defendguinswsusp: Not enough free swap     i guess this is my answer03:13
mjg59Yup03:14
mjg59Should be improved in edgy03:14
defendguini have an even 500 mb of swap03:14
defendguin512MB of system memory03:15
defendguinmjg59: does your swap space need to be bigger than the system memory for hibernation to work?03:16
mjg59It depends on how much memory you're using03:16
defendguinthat sounds pretty crappy.  03:17
defendguinso if i add another 512 stick there is no way my laptop will hibernate03:18
defendguini don't want to bash anyone but in windows or mac i don't think this problem exists03:18
mjg59Macs don't hibernate03:21
defendguinreally?03:21
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defendguinseems hard to believe 03:22
defendguinUp until recently, Mac users didnt have a similar Sleep mode which required no power. When Apple announced new PowerBooks in October 2005, it also introduced Safe Sleep to Mac OS X, an extention to Sleep mode that allows for hibernation without power.03:26
defendguinso i guess they do now have hibernation03:30
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eod_punkhello all04:26
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tritiumWhen is the ETA for Knot 2?04:41
eod_punkno one is around04:42
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Burgundaviatritium: pretty soon, tomorrow or the next day04:47
tritiumBurgundavia: great, thanks.  Good to know I am not behind ;)04:48
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Redroseanyone alive here?07:19
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jnjbhello09:06
Nailorhi there09:06
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malice? I just installled ubuntu onto my laptop and it does not seem to show the correct charge left on the battery. Does anyone know of a help site that would point me into the right direction?01:23
NailorWhat laptop?01:23
maliceDell Latitude C54001:24
NailorUm. Can't say a thing about that one. :p01:25
NailorDoes it show the correct charge left on some other operating system (like Windows)01:25
maliceI dont't know I got this used and the old battery did the same thing I just got this about 4 days ago.. so I got a new battery and it is doing the same thing. :)01:26
maliceI deleted windows as soon as I got it.01:27
NailorWell the sensors might be busted01:27
malicehehe that would explain the nice cheap price :)01:28
maliceoh well I will have a lap top that I can plug in everywhere I go then01:28
Nailoroh, the battery is not loading either?01:36
maliceit loads from time to time if I take it out put it in a few times then ubuntu sees the battery01:42
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-laptop: Ubuntu laptop development work | Not a general Ubuntu support channel, use #ubuntu | Channel logs: http://xrl.us/kczh | Please test Edgy Knot 1 - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-1/
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Linuturk_codehttp://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/ << read that article and note what OS he uses05:28
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Linuturk_codeknot2 is scheduled to be released today, right?09:09
SimiraI think it's up tomorrow09:09
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tmh__what does that really mean?09:36
tmh__do I have to dist-upgrade at the exact moment knot 2 is "released"?09:37
Linuturk_codeyes, the exact milisecond, or the universe will collapse in on itself09:37
tmh__no, I just won't have "knot 2"09:47
tmh__seriously, is there like an APT tag I can use to anchor to that release? or what does "knot" really mean? that most devels concentrate their efforts just before?09:48
crimsuna knot is a snapshot of the main component09:49
crimsunerr, of the main and restricted components09:49
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