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lophyteheya RichJ12:38
Burgworkhttp://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=MReviews&op=show&rid=1801:06
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elkbuntuMitchM, pong01:32
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johnlittleoh man02:34
niKsternaloh woman02:35
niKsternalheh, i am in a class right now learning about this operating system02:35
johnlittlenice02:38
johnlittleI just found video of Jorge malcom and corey doing the ipod dance at linux world02:39
zebedeeLOL ;-) Z02:39
johnlittlehttp://www.ubuntuvideo.com/02:45
niKsternalarg, it is flash02:46
niKsternal;(02:46
johnlittledont you have Kflash or something?  ;p02:47
niKsternalnot here on this stupid machine02:47
niKsternalfedora core 2 for pete's sake02:47
johnlittleew02:48
johnlittleI guess Mandrake 1.0 wasn't available?02:48
niKsternalheh02:48
niKsternalthey use it for this one class..it is either this or suse...i have live cd's with me, but that won't do any good02:49
niKsternalthe chairs in this class suck as well02:49
johnlittleBad Distros 101?02:49
niKsternalhttp://buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/release02:50
niKsternalthose images look ok?02:50
johnlittleyeah what they b?02:51
niKsternalfor the edgy knot 2 release of kubuntu tonight if you are in the US, or today the 31st if your not02:52
johnlittlenice02:53
elkbuntunice purple..03:07
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johnlittlejust make a purple gnome..Pnome03:08
elkbuntuyay03:09
johnlittlethats a nice purple but i dunno bout purple03:09
elkbuntuim sure someone will eventually port the them to gnome03:10
elkbuntutheme*03:10
johnlittleoh yeah03:10
johnlittleyou see the ipod dance?03:10
elkbuntuyeah03:10
elkbuntuwe must rib corey about it when he gets back in here :P03:10
johnlittleI think thats the third video with him in it03:11
johnlittlehe gets around03:11
elkbuntuyeah03:12
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MagicFabwhere would be the best place to ask about Ubuntu's trademarks abuse/ misuse ?03:54
niKsternalMagicFab: there should be a link to email on the ubuntu site under the trademark info04:01
niKsternalyou find someone misusing it?04:01
MagicFabniKsternal, we're investigating an organization that is making several claims (like being "approved by the International open source organization" whatever that is) and organizing an event, colelcting money, etc04:06
niKsternalnice04:06
niKsternali hope it isn't one of mine ;)04:06
niKsternalhaha04:06
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lophyteniKsternal: I ordered 200 CDs and got 160 shipped.. :)04:07
MagicFabniKsternal, we're confronting the people, just wanting to have more info in advance04:07
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sethkMagicFab, you don't have to go because somebody tells you to.  on the other hand, makes no difference which channel you talk in04:08
zebedeeHi... I am new at this Ubuntu thing, but I like it alot. I have a question, is it possible to obtain a ubuntu email address? If so would someone mind telling me how...please, I have asked three other channels and nobody has answered me ;-(. Many thanks in advance, Z ;-)04:08
sethkMagicFab, but, suppose the had to change the name.  who cares?04:08
lophytezebedee: you need to become a Ubuntu member04:08
niKsternallophyte: nice!04:08
niKsternalyou got luckier than i did04:09
lophyteniKsternal: now hopefully this marketing campaign will go smoothl04:09
lophytesmoothly, even04:09
niKsternalim getting ready to overtake a local LUGs install fest04:09
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lophytezebedee: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember04:09
niKsternalwe are planning on hitting it with 10 systems setup to display the different systems, xgl setups, gaming setups..and then do installs for everyone04:10
lophytenice04:10
lophytehas Dan talked to you at all lately? (FlyingHat)04:11
niKsternali have been very busy getting stuff done for knot 2 release and with the school and work04:12
lophyteah04:12
lophytehe was telling me he's really interested in helping out04:12
lophyteokay, I gotta run.. I'll be around tomorrow04:13
zebedeelophyte: Thanks will maybe do that in the future then :-) Regards Z04:17
MagicFabsethk, the community there is fragile and starting. We don't need someone pretending to be an ubuntu contributor and spreading fud about free software etc.04:18
elkbuntuMagicFab, who/what is this someone?04:18
sethkMagicFab, anybody can do that to anybody else at any time.  You can't worry about that sort of thing.04:20
sethkMagicFab, seems to me that changing red hat to fedora didn't make any difference,04:20
MagicFabsethk, I am glad you think you can tell me what to worry about :)04:20
sethkMagicFab, if you want to worry about it, I can't stop you.  I thought you might seriously be interested in the reality of the situation you raised.  but I guess not.04:21
MagicFabIf I start "Ubuntu Consulting Inc." and organize a "Free Software Congress", it is clearly against trademark policy04:21
MagicFaband it confuses/dilutes other local intiatives, which is also against the code of conduct (although that is entirely ethical, which means optional for many people)04:22
MagicFabsomeone suggested looking at this, which gives me enough info for now:04:24
MagicFabhttp://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy04:24
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Burgundaviaanybody awake?06:32
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nixternalnope06:46
Burgundavianixternal: *grin*06:46
Burgundaviayou have been a busy boy06:46
nixternalhopefully busy as in good busy06:47
Burgundaviathe wiki stuff for knot206:47
Burgundaviaevening Madpilot06:47
Madpilothi Burgundavia06:47
Burgundaviaone issue we have is that I am going to be moving my page to the website06:47
Burgundaviaare you?06:47
nixternalya, trying to get it complete here...should be done with the kubuntu one here within the next hour im guessing06:47
nixternali have no way of doing so..so it is staying on the wiki06:47
Burgundaviaick06:48
Burgundaviathat is a big problem06:48
nixternaltell me about it06:48
Burgundaviaplease talk to Ridell06:48
nixternalhe is in bed06:48
Burgundaviahe will be up for the release tomorrow06:49
nixternalim sure of that..but i won't be06:49
nixternalit would be nice if kubuntu.org was moinmoin as well...it could be almost as easy as doing a cut and paste job06:50
nixternalactually..it still could be cut and pasted, just have to html for the images, and headings06:50
Burgundaviamoin to html is pretty easy06:50
nixternalis it?  i have never attempted it06:51
Burgundaviaafaik, no06:51
Burgundaviariddell has always done things a little differently06:51
nixternala lot differently06:51
Burgundaviayep06:52
nixternalk.o looks more like a blog than a distro site06:52
Burgundaviasometimes unnecessarily so06:52
Burgundaviaubuntu.com has come a long way06:52
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BurgundaviaMadpilot: can you test something for me?07:10
Madpilotquite likely, yes07:11
Burgundaviadoes alacarte edit the system menu in dapper?07:11
Madpilotparts of it07:11
Burgundaviathat is all I needed to know07:12
Madpilotyou can edit System->Preferences & Sys->Admin07:12
Burgundaviado you have an edgy live cd handy?07:12
BurgundaviaI want to see if universe and multi are enabled by default07:13
Madpilotno07:13
Madpilotwaiting for knot2 release07:13
Burgundaviahmm07:13
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nixternalBurgundavia: they aren't enabled by default07:22
nixternalthe only one enabled in the sources.list are main and security07:23
Burgundavianixternal: then I will back that out07:24
nixternalthe stuff in uni or multi, i placed at the bottom under "Notable Mentions"07:25
Burgundaviaright07:25
Burgundavianixternal: aside from security stuff, is there anything else interesting in oo.o 2.0.3?07:51
nixternalnope07:51
Burgundaviahmm, thoughts on Knot2?07:52
nixternalit kicks arse ;)07:53
nixternalis Ubuntu feeling "edgy" to you guys?07:53
Burgundaviano, my page07:53
nixternalKubuntu really doesn't to me right now07:53
nixternalas soon as my page up's, i will check out your page07:53
Burgundaviaoh, btw, mtp support is not quite ready for primetime, due to missing a library07:53
nixternalsince yours is my parent ;)07:53
Burgundaviain amarok, that is07:53
nixternalya, i know, but they say it works, and it is listed07:54
BurgundaviaI would make the default theme further up the page07:54
Burgundaviaon your page07:54
nixternalactually..i believe it works for everyone but us right now, correct?07:54
Burgundaviayep07:54
nixternalooh..i forgot to do that07:54
Burgundaviathe library is stuck in new, from what i understand07:55
nixternali crossed it off my list though07:55
Burgundaviazeroconf stuff should be moved further up as well07:55
Burgundaviaafter all, that is the cool new crack07:55
nixternalactually...leave it at the bottom, because it sucks if you ask me ;)07:55
Burgundaviain reality, we jsut didn't have enough time this cycle07:55
Burgundaviaoh, and that purple is very "different"07:55
Burgundaviabut it is unique07:55
nixternaloh we had more then enough time, however everything changed in a matter of minutes..and then they do a freeze, and don't let everyone know07:56
Burgundaviano, talking about edgy in general07:56
Burgundaviahmm, no wonder I didn't have gnome-orca, ubuntu-desktop was not installed07:59
nixternalok, i think i could go for a cognac and cigar ;)07:59
Burgundaviayou hedonist08:01
nixternalhehe08:01
Burgundaviaso how many kinds of cognac do you have? as a kde user, you always need at least 2 brands of everything, to have a choice08:03
nixternalwell, just 1 right now08:05
nixternalooh..actually i do have 208:05
nixternalone is almost empty though08:05
nixternalthe hennessy is almost gone, and the courvoisier isn't ready yet i dont' think08:05
nixternalooh, i just noticed you snuck in a little kde abuse as well08:06
elkbuntuBurgundavia, lol08:06
Madpilotnice dig at the kool people, Burgundavia ;)08:07
BurgundaviaI just got a brilliant idea for an ad for GNOME08:07
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Madpilotinvolving booze?08:08
elkbuntuBurgundavia, ooh? if it's in line with your cognac comment it should be interesting...08:08
Burgundaviayou would see a bathroom wall with about 5 different racks with 5 different kinds of toilet paper on them08:08
Burgundaviathe line would say "confused by choice?08:08
elkbuntulol08:08
Burgundaviawhat is a text editing area called?08:09
Burgundaviain a web browser, like08:09
elkbuntutext box or text area?08:09
Burgundavialike for editing the wiki08:10
Madpilota text box, afaik08:10
elkbuntutext area for the big multi-lined things08:10
Burgundaviathanks. I was trying for a technical term, elkbuntu08:11
elkbuntuBurgundavia, it's what the tag is called ;)08:11
Burgundaviaright08:12
elkbuntuBurgundavia, btw, there's one flaw i see with the 'choice' concept... they would have already run screaming from 'linux' if too much choice an issue ;)08:12
Burgundaviawhat else is new in FF 2.0b1?08:15
BurgundaviaMadpilot: what version of gaim did dapper ship with?08:22
Burgundavianever mind, found it08:22
Madpilotv1.5.1cvs08:22
Burgundaviaright08:24
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Burgundaviamdke: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot2 <-- I am going to bed. Mithrandir et al might notice something that needs editing09:24
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MadpilotBurgundavia, "I am smrat!" - please tell me this was a deliberate typo... ;)09:34
BurgundaviaMadpilot: ya rly09:34
Madpilotwondered about that09:34
Madpilothehe09:34
Burgundaviamy other favourite is "I kan speell!"09:35
Madpilotthat's always fun09:35
Burgundaviaalready got my first correction email09:35
Burgundavianow i really am going to bed09:37
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poningruBurgundavia: wouldnt that firefox screencap look better if it were displaying something other than wiki markup?10:31
Madpilotponingru, it's a shot of an edit box, they're all boring10:31
poningruyeah10:32
poningruso lets have the default homepage be in the screencap10:33
poningruatleast his porn didnt show up on the fspot screeny ;)10:34
Madpilotheh10:34
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jendaHello11:24
jenda!seen MenZa11:24
jendaah11:24
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jendaHello matthewrevell11:28
matthewrevelley11:31
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Werdnazomg stalker11:33
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jendaI have defenses against that...11:34
Werdnalike..?11:34
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jendaI hope he doesn't take it personally...11:35
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Werdnazomg op abuse11:35
jendaHello ;)11:35
Werdna;)11:35
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jendaMenZa!04:37
jendaI'd love to move on with the website, but can't now.04:37
MenZahi jenda04:37
jendaTwo things:04:37
jendaI'd like the sources to the website you made, if you would (GPL if possible :) )04:38
jendaAnd when are you heading this way?04:38
MenZaSeptember 2404:38
jendaOK04:38
MenZaI think I'm in Prague on.. the 26 or so04:38
MenZaIt's a Thursday.04:38
MenZabrb, my sound's gone04:38
jendaVery good.04:38
MenZa(Windoze!)04:38
MenZabrb04:39
jendaof course ;)04:39
jenda/cs kf MenZa ##windows 04:39
elkbuntuso tempting04:39
elkbuntuhi jenda, btw :)04:39
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Klaidaskf? :)04:53
Kamping_Kaiserhi Klaidas :)04:54
Klaidashey Kaiser ;)04:54
Kamping_Kaiser:)04:54
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Klaidas6 hours left untill summer finishes04:55
Klaidasand school starts04:55
Klaidas:/04:55
KlaidasThu Aug 31 17:56:18 EEST 200604:55
Kamping_Kaiser6 hours?04:56
Kamping_Kaiserthat means it started 26 minutes ago ;O04:56
Kamping_KaiserFri Sep  1 00:26:50 CST 200604:56
Klaidas:))04:56
Kamping_Kaiser:)04:57
Klaidasand it's not just school04:57
Klaidasa new school :)04:57
Kamping_Kaisertime to start worrying about cooling again :)04:57
elkbuntunonsense 57 minutes ago :P04:57
elkbuntuFri Sep  1 00:57:22 EST 200604:57
Kamping_Kaiserelkbuntu, your timezones wrong :P04:57
Klaidasdudes, go get some sleeeeep :)04:57
elkbuntuhardly, yours is04:57
elkbuntui probably should, since i have the flu and all04:57
Klaidasheh04:58
Kamping_KaiserKlaidas, sleep? does that mean suspend? ;)04:58
Klaidasyou have a flu and you're at your pc at 00:5704:58
Klaidasare you a geek or something? :)04:58
Kamping_Kaiserheh04:59
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Kamping_Kaiserwb04:59
MenZaty.05:02
Kamping_Kaisernp05:02
MenZahttp://www.flickr.com/photos/menza/230100508/05:03
Klaidas;] 05:05
elkbuntuKlaidas, we are part of the voluntary marketing team for a linux distrobution... i think we're all geeks05:05
Kamping_Kaiserelkbuntu, i thought the bit where i have 6 cpu architectures within a 2m radius of my bed made me a geek ;)05:05
elkbuntuKamping_Kaiser, on a different level, sure05:06
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Kamping_Kaiserhehe05:06
elkbuntui saw MenZa05:06
elkbuntuyou offering to share them?05:06
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MenZaMy parents :)05:06
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MenZaKamping_Kaiser: Tickets to Rolling Stones :)05:06
MenZaelkbuntu: birthday present.05:07
elkbuntulucky boy05:07
MenZaI'm giving them away :D05:07
MenZaAs a present :)05:07
MenZaTo my parents.05:07
MenZaFront-row tickets.05:07
elkbuntuoh05:07
Kamping_KaiserMenZa, that band?05:07
MenZaOf course, Kamping_Kaiser.05:07
MenZa....wait, 'that band'?05:07
Klaidaskewlzor ;)05:07
Kamping_Kaiseroh, right05:07
elkbuntuyou had alot of work lately?05:07
MenZaelkbuntu: tons.05:07
MenZaEffing tons.05:07
MenZaThe Rolling Stones are legendary, Kamping_Kaiser :S05:07
elkbuntui'd like to re-issue the lucky boy statement then05:08
MenZalol05:08
Kamping_KaiserMenZa, :S i'v heard of them before, yeh05:08
MenZaKamping_Kaiser: ...05:08
MenZaThey're _legendary_.05:08
Kamping_KaiserMenZa, my bad :)05:09
MenZa:D05:09
Kamping_Kaiser:D05:09
elkbuntui hope you're just stirring him, karl :|05:13
jendaOh, hello elkbuntu ;)05:13
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jendahehe05:14
Kamping_Kaiserelkbuntu, to a degree, yes05:14
MenZa:P05:14
Kamping_Kaiser:P05:15
poningruhttp://www.therawfeed.com/2006/08/ultimate-hacking-pc-cracks-300-wi-fi.html05:15
poningruhttp://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/ <--- much better link05:16
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jendahahaha05:25
jendaubuntulog uses BitchX?05:25
elkbuntuo.O05:25
elkbuntuwhat the....05:25
Klaidaswhy not irssi?05:26
Kamping_Kaiserwhy not ubotu/ubugtus code base???05:27
Kamping_Kaisernight all05:34
Kamping_Kaisersleep well, dont work to hard :), and dont get told off by md ke for -ot talk ;D05:34
MitchMping elkbuntu05:53
jendaMenZa: you around?05:53
MenZajenda: yeah?05:53
MenZaYou want that site, I assume?05:53
MenZa:D05:53
elkbuntuMitchM, be quick? im just about to head to bed05:53
MenZaSure, just a second.05:53
jendaOf course ;)05:53
MitchMack. Just catching up on a prior ping.05:53
MitchMnothing up here =)05:54
MitchMget some sleep. :-P05:54
elkbuntuMitchM, ah i sent you a mail iirc05:54
MitchMokies.05:54
MitchM=)05:54
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=== jenda knocks, knocks, knocking on MenZa's door...
Klaidaslet him in, it;s cold outside06:21
jendaIt's warm here.06:22
MenZajenda: check your e-mail :)06:23
MenZaI'm sending it now :D06:23
Klaidas:)06:23
jendanot there yet ;)06:24
MenZajenda: nah, it bounced06:25
MenZamy client is stinky atm06:25
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jendahello zenrox07:29
zenroxello07:29
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jendaHello Mr. Cogito_ergo_sum08:02
jenda:)08:02
jendaScared him away?08:23
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