[12:38] <lophyte> heya RichJ
[01:06] <Burgwork> http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=MReviews&op=show&rid=18
[01:32] <elkbuntu> MitchM, pong
[02:34] <johnlittle> oh man
[02:35] <niKsternal> oh woman
[02:35] <niKsternal> heh, i am in a class right now learning about this operating system
[02:38] <johnlittle> nice
[02:39] <johnlittle> I just found video of Jorge malcom and corey doing the ipod dance at linux world
[02:39] <zebedee> LOL ;-) Z
[02:45] <johnlittle> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/
[02:46] <niKsternal> arg, it is flash
[02:46] <niKsternal> ;(
[02:47] <johnlittle> dont you have Kflash or something?  ;p
[02:47] <niKsternal> not here on this stupid machine
[02:47] <niKsternal> fedora core 2 for pete's sake
[02:48] <johnlittle> ew
[02:48] <johnlittle> I guess Mandrake 1.0 wasn't available?
[02:48] <niKsternal> heh
[02:49] <niKsternal> they use it for this one class..it is either this or suse...i have live cd's with me, but that won't do any good
[02:49] <niKsternal> the chairs in this class suck as well
[02:49] <johnlittle> Bad Distros 101?
[02:50] <niKsternal> http://buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/release
[02:50] <niKsternal> those images look ok?
[02:51] <johnlittle> yeah what they b?
[02:52] <niKsternal> for the edgy knot 2 release of kubuntu tonight if you are in the US, or today the 31st if your not
[02:53] <johnlittle> nice
[03:07] <elkbuntu> nice purple..
[03:08] <johnlittle> just make a purple gnome..Pnome
[03:09] <elkbuntu> yay
[03:09] <johnlittle> thats a nice purple but i dunno bout purple
[03:10] <elkbuntu> im sure someone will eventually port the them to gnome
[03:10] <elkbuntu> theme*
[03:10] <johnlittle> oh yeah
[03:10] <johnlittle> you see the ipod dance?
[03:10] <elkbuntu> yeah
[03:10] <elkbuntu> we must rib corey about it when he gets back in here :P
[03:11] <johnlittle> I think thats the third video with him in it
[03:11] <johnlittle> he gets around
[03:12] <elkbuntu> yeah
[03:54] <MagicFab> where would be the best place to ask about Ubuntu's trademarks abuse/ misuse ?
[04:01] <niKsternal> MagicFab: there should be a link to email on the ubuntu site under the trademark info
[04:01] <niKsternal> you find someone misusing it?
[04:06] <MagicFab> niKsternal, we're investigating an organization that is making several claims (like being "approved by the International open source organization" whatever that is) and organizing an event, colelcting money, etc
[04:06] <niKsternal> nice
[04:06] <niKsternal> i hope it isn't one of mine ;)
[04:06] <niKsternal> haha
[04:07] <lophyte> niKsternal: I ordered 200 CDs and got 160 shipped.. :)
[04:07] <MagicFab> niKsternal, we're confronting the people, just wanting to have more info in advance
[04:08] <sethk> MagicFab, you don't have to go because somebody tells you to.  on the other hand, makes no difference which channel you talk in
[04:08] <zebedee> Hi... I am new at this Ubuntu thing, but I like it alot. I have a question, is it possible to obtain a ubuntu email address? If so would someone mind telling me how...please, I have asked three other channels and nobody has answered me ;-(. Many thanks in advance, Z ;-)
[04:08] <sethk> MagicFab, but, suppose the had to change the name.  who cares?
[04:08] <lophyte> zebedee: you need to become a Ubuntu member
[04:08] <niKsternal> lophyte: nice!
[04:09] <niKsternal> you got luckier than i did
[04:09] <lophyte> niKsternal: now hopefully this marketing campaign will go smoothl
[04:09] <lophyte> smoothly, even
[04:09] <niKsternal> im getting ready to overtake a local LUGs install fest
[04:09] <lophyte> zebedee: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[04:10] <niKsternal> we are planning on hitting it with 10 systems setup to display the different systems, xgl setups, gaming setups..and then do installs for everyone
[04:10] <lophyte> nice
[04:11] <lophyte> has Dan talked to you at all lately? (FlyingHat)
[04:12] <niKsternal> i have been very busy getting stuff done for knot 2 release and with the school and work
[04:12] <lophyte> ah
[04:12] <lophyte> he was telling me he's really interested in helping out
[04:13] <lophyte> okay, I gotta run.. I'll be around tomorrow
[04:17] <zebedee> lophyte: Thanks will maybe do that in the future then :-) Regards Z
[04:18] <MagicFab> sethk, the community there is fragile and starting. We don't need someone pretending to be an ubuntu contributor and spreading fud about free software etc.
[04:18] <elkbuntu> MagicFab, who/what is this someone?
[04:20] <sethk> MagicFab, anybody can do that to anybody else at any time.  You can't worry about that sort of thing.
[04:20] <sethk> MagicFab, seems to me that changing red hat to fedora didn't make any difference,
[04:20] <MagicFab> sethk, I am glad you think you can tell me what to worry about :)
[04:21] <sethk> MagicFab, if you want to worry about it, I can't stop you.  I thought you might seriously be interested in the reality of the situation you raised.  but I guess not.
[04:21] <MagicFab> If I start "Ubuntu Consulting Inc." and organize a "Free Software Congress", it is clearly against trademark policy
[04:22] <MagicFab> and it confuses/dilutes other local intiatives, which is also against the code of conduct (although that is entirely ethical, which means optional for many people)
[04:24] <MagicFab> someone suggested looking at this, which gives me enough info for now:
[04:24] <MagicFab> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy
[06:32] <Burgundavia> anybody awake?
[06:46] <nixternal> nope
[06:46] <Burgundavia> nixternal: *grin*
[06:46] <Burgundavia> you have been a busy boy
[06:47] <nixternal> hopefully busy as in good busy
[06:47] <Burgundavia> the wiki stuff for knot2
[06:47] <Burgundavia> evening Madpilot
[06:47] <Madpilot> hi Burgundavia
[06:47] <Burgundavia> one issue we have is that I am going to be moving my page to the website
[06:47] <Burgundavia> are you?
[06:47] <nixternal> ya, trying to get it complete here...should be done with the kubuntu one here within the next hour im guessing
[06:47] <nixternal> i have no way of doing so..so it is staying on the wiki
[06:48] <Burgundavia> ick
[06:48] <Burgundavia> that is a big problem
[06:48] <nixternal> tell me about it
[06:48] <Burgundavia> please talk to Ridell
[06:48] <nixternal> he is in bed
[06:49] <Burgundavia> he will be up for the release tomorrow
[06:49] <nixternal> im sure of that..but i won't be
[06:50] <nixternal> it would be nice if kubuntu.org was moinmoin as well...it could be almost as easy as doing a cut and paste job
[06:50] <nixternal> actually..it still could be cut and pasted, just have to html for the images, and headings
[06:50] <Burgundavia> moin to html is pretty easy
[06:51] <nixternal> is it?  i have never attempted it
[06:51] <Burgundavia> afaik, no
[06:51] <Burgundavia> riddell has always done things a little differently
[06:51] <nixternal> a lot differently
[06:52] <Burgundavia> yep
[06:52] <nixternal> k.o looks more like a blog than a distro site
[06:52] <Burgundavia> sometimes unnecessarily so
[06:52] <Burgundavia> ubuntu.com has come a long way
[07:10] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: can you test something for me?
[07:11] <Madpilot> quite likely, yes
[07:11] <Burgundavia> does alacarte edit the system menu in dapper?
[07:11] <Madpilot> parts of it
[07:12] <Burgundavia> that is all I needed to know
[07:12] <Madpilot> you can edit System->Preferences & Sys->Admin
[07:12] <Burgundavia> do you have an edgy live cd handy?
[07:13] <Burgundavia> I want to see if universe and multi are enabled by default
[07:13] <Madpilot> no
[07:13] <Madpilot> waiting for knot2 release
[07:13] <Burgundavia> hmm
[07:22] <nixternal> Burgundavia: they aren't enabled by default
[07:23] <nixternal> the only one enabled in the sources.list are main and security
[07:24] <Burgundavia> nixternal: then I will back that out
[07:25] <nixternal> the stuff in uni or multi, i placed at the bottom under "Notable Mentions"
[07:25] <Burgundavia> right
[07:51] <Burgundavia> nixternal: aside from security stuff, is there anything else interesting in oo.o 2.0.3?
[07:51] <nixternal> nope
[07:52] <Burgundavia> hmm, thoughts on Knot2?
[07:53] <nixternal> it kicks arse ;)
[07:53] <nixternal> is Ubuntu feeling "edgy" to you guys?
[07:53] <Burgundavia> no, my page
[07:53] <nixternal> Kubuntu really doesn't to me right now
[07:53] <nixternal> as soon as my page up's, i will check out your page
[07:53] <Burgundavia> oh, btw, mtp support is not quite ready for primetime, due to missing a library
[07:53] <nixternal> since yours is my parent ;)
[07:53] <Burgundavia> in amarok, that is
[07:54] <nixternal> ya, i know, but they say it works, and it is listed
[07:54] <Burgundavia> I would make the default theme further up the page
[07:54] <Burgundavia> on your page
[07:54] <nixternal> actually..i believe it works for everyone but us right now, correct?
[07:54] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:54] <nixternal> ooh..i forgot to do that
[07:55] <Burgundavia> the library is stuck in new, from what i understand
[07:55] <nixternal> i crossed it off my list though
[07:55] <Burgundavia> zeroconf stuff should be moved further up as well
[07:55] <Burgundavia> after all, that is the cool new crack
[07:55] <nixternal> actually...leave it at the bottom, because it sucks if you ask me ;)
[07:55] <Burgundavia> in reality, we jsut didn't have enough time this cycle
[07:55] <Burgundavia> oh, and that purple is very "different"
[07:55] <Burgundavia> but it is unique
[07:56] <nixternal> oh we had more then enough time, however everything changed in a matter of minutes..and then they do a freeze, and don't let everyone know
[07:56] <Burgundavia> no, talking about edgy in general
[07:59] <Burgundavia> hmm, no wonder I didn't have gnome-orca, ubuntu-desktop was not installed
[07:59] <nixternal> ok, i think i could go for a cognac and cigar ;)
[08:01] <Burgundavia> you hedonist
[08:01] <nixternal> hehe
[08:03] <Burgundavia> so how many kinds of cognac do you have? as a kde user, you always need at least 2 brands of everything, to have a choice
[08:05] <nixternal> well, just 1 right now
[08:05] <nixternal> ooh..actually i do have 2
[08:05] <nixternal> one is almost empty though
[08:05] <nixternal> the hennessy is almost gone, and the courvoisier isn't ready yet i dont' think
[08:06] <nixternal> ooh, i just noticed you snuck in a little kde abuse as well
[08:06] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, lol
[08:07] <Madpilot> nice dig at the kool people, Burgundavia ;)
[08:07] <Burgundavia> I just got a brilliant idea for an ad for GNOME
[08:08] <Madpilot> involving booze?
[08:08] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, ooh? if it's in line with your cognac comment it should be interesting...
[08:08] <Burgundavia> you would see a bathroom wall with about 5 different racks with 5 different kinds of toilet paper on them
[08:08] <Burgundavia> the line would say "confused by choice?
[08:08] <elkbuntu> lol
[08:09] <Burgundavia> what is a text editing area called?
[08:09] <Burgundavia> in a web browser, like
[08:09] <elkbuntu> text box or text area?
[08:10] <Burgundavia> like for editing the wiki
[08:10] <Madpilot> a text box, afaik
[08:10] <elkbuntu> text area for the big multi-lined things
[08:11] <Burgundavia> thanks. I was trying for a technical term, elkbuntu
[08:11] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, it's what the tag is called ;)
[08:12] <Burgundavia> right
[08:12] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, btw, there's one flaw i see with the 'choice' concept... they would have already run screaming from 'linux' if too much choice an issue ;)
[08:15] <Burgundavia> what else is new in FF 2.0b1?
[08:22] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: what version of gaim did dapper ship with?
[08:22] <Burgundavia> never mind, found it
[08:22] <Madpilot> v1.5.1cvs
[08:24] <Burgundavia> right
[09:24] <Burgundavia> mdke: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot2 <-- I am going to bed. Mithrandir et al might notice something that needs editing
[09:34] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, "I am smrat!" - please tell me this was a deliberate typo... ;)
[09:34] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: ya rly
[09:34] <Madpilot> wondered about that
[09:34] <Madpilot> hehe
[09:35] <Burgundavia> my other favourite is "I kan speell!"
[09:35] <Madpilot> that's always fun
[09:35] <Burgundavia> already got my first correction email
[09:37] <Burgundavia> now i really am going to bed
[10:31] <poningru> Burgundavia: wouldnt that firefox screencap look better if it were displaying something other than wiki markup?
[10:31] <Madpilot> poningru, it's a shot of an edit box, they're all boring
[10:32] <poningru> yeah
[10:33] <poningru> so lets have the default homepage be in the screencap
[10:34] <poningru> atleast his porn didnt show up on the fspot screeny ;)
[10:34] <Madpilot> heh
[11:24] <jenda> Hello
[11:24] <jenda> !seen MenZa
[11:24] <jenda> ah
[11:28] <jenda> Hello matthewrevell
[11:31] <matthewrevell> ey
[11:33] <Werdna> zomg stalker
[11:34] <jenda> I have defenses against that...
[11:34] <Werdna> like..?
[11:35] <jenda> I hope he doesn't take it personally...
[11:35] <Werdna> zomg op abuse
[11:35] <jenda> Hello ;)
[11:35] <Werdna> ;)
[04:37] <jenda> MenZa!
[04:37] <jenda> I'd love to move on with the website, but can't now.
[04:37] <MenZa> hi jenda
[04:37] <jenda> Two things:
[04:38] <jenda> I'd like the sources to the website you made, if you would (GPL if possible :) )
[04:38] <jenda> And when are you heading this way?
[04:38] <MenZa> September 24
[04:38] <jenda> OK
[04:38] <MenZa> I think I'm in Prague on.. the 26 or so
[04:38] <MenZa> It's a Thursday.
[04:38] <MenZa> brb, my sound's gone
[04:38] <jenda> Very good.
[04:38] <MenZa> (Windoze!)
[04:39] <MenZa> brb
[04:39] <jenda> of course ;)
[04:39] <jenda> /cs kf MenZa ##windows 
[04:39] <elkbuntu> so tempting
[04:39] <elkbuntu> hi jenda, btw :)
[04:53] <Klaidas> kf? :)
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Klaidas :)
[04:54] <Klaidas> hey Kaiser ;)
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:55] <Klaidas> 6 hours left untill summer finishes
[04:55] <Klaidas> and school starts
[04:55] <Klaidas> :/
[04:55] <Klaidas> Thu Aug 31 17:56:18 EEST 2006
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> 6 hours?
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> that means it started 26 minutes ago ;O
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Fri Sep  1 00:26:50 CST 2006
[04:56] <Klaidas> :))
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:57] <Klaidas> and it's not just school
[04:57] <Klaidas> a new school :)
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> time to start worrying about cooling again :)
[04:57] <elkbuntu> nonsense 57 minutes ago :P
[04:57] <elkbuntu> Fri Sep  1 00:57:22 EST 2006
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, your timezones wrong :P
[04:57] <Klaidas> dudes, go get some sleeeeep :)
[04:57] <elkbuntu> hardly, yours is
[04:57] <elkbuntu> i probably should, since i have the flu and all
[04:58] <Klaidas> heh
[04:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> Klaidas, sleep? does that mean suspend? ;)
[04:58] <Klaidas> you have a flu and you're at your pc at 00:57
[04:58] <Klaidas> are you a geek or something? :)
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb
[05:02] <MenZa> ty.
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[05:03] <MenZa> http://www.flickr.com/photos/menza/230100508/
[05:05] <Klaidas> ;] 
[05:05] <elkbuntu> Klaidas, we are part of the voluntary marketing team for a linux distrobution... i think we're all geeks
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, i thought the bit where i have 6 cpu architectures within a 2m radius of my bed made me a geek ;)
[05:06] <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, on a different level, sure
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[05:06] <elkbuntu> i saw MenZa
[05:06] <elkbuntu> you offering to share them?
[05:06] <MenZa> My parents :)
[05:06] <MenZa> Kamping_Kaiser: Tickets to Rolling Stones :)
[05:07] <MenZa> elkbuntu: birthday present.
[05:07] <elkbuntu> lucky boy
[05:07] <MenZa> I'm giving them away :D
[05:07] <MenZa> As a present :)
[05:07] <MenZa> To my parents.
[05:07] <MenZa> Front-row tickets.
[05:07] <elkbuntu> oh
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> MenZa, that band?
[05:07] <MenZa> Of course, Kamping_Kaiser.
[05:07] <MenZa> ....wait, 'that band'?
[05:07] <Klaidas> kewlzor ;)
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, right
[05:07] <elkbuntu> you had alot of work lately?
[05:07] <MenZa> elkbuntu: tons.
[05:07] <MenZa> Effing tons.
[05:07] <MenZa> The Rolling Stones are legendary, Kamping_Kaiser :S
[05:08] <elkbuntu> i'd like to re-issue the lucky boy statement then
[05:08] <MenZa> lol
[05:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> MenZa, :S i'v heard of them before, yeh
[05:08] <MenZa> Kamping_Kaiser: ...
[05:08] <MenZa> They're _legendary_.
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> MenZa, my bad :)
[05:09] <MenZa> :D
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[05:13] <elkbuntu> i hope you're just stirring him, karl :|
[05:13] <jenda> Oh, hello elkbuntu ;)
[05:14] <jenda> hehe
[05:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, to a degree, yes
[05:14] <MenZa> :P
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[05:15] <poningru> http://www.therawfeed.com/2006/08/ultimate-hacking-pc-cracks-300-wi-fi.html
[05:16] <poningru> http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/ <--- much better link
[05:25] <jenda> hahaha
[05:25] <jenda> ubuntulog uses BitchX?
[05:25] <elkbuntu> o.O
[05:25] <elkbuntu> what the....
[05:26] <Klaidas> why not irssi?
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> why not ubotu/ubugtus code base???
[05:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all
[05:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> sleep well, dont work to hard :), and dont get told off by md ke for -ot talk ;D
[05:53] <MitchM> ping elkbuntu
[05:53] <jenda> MenZa: you around?
[05:53] <MenZa> jenda: yeah?
[05:53] <MenZa> You want that site, I assume?
[05:53] <MenZa> :D
[05:53] <elkbuntu> MitchM, be quick? im just about to head to bed
[05:53] <MenZa> Sure, just a second.
[05:53] <jenda> Of course ;)
[05:53] <MitchM> ack. Just catching up on a prior ping.
[05:54] <MitchM> nothing up here =)
[05:54] <MitchM> get some sleep. :-P
[05:54] <elkbuntu> MitchM, ah i sent you a mail iirc
[05:54] <MitchM> okies.
[05:54] <MitchM> =)
[06:21] <Klaidas> let him in, it;s cold outside
[06:22] <jenda> It's warm here.
[06:23] <MenZa> jenda: check your e-mail :)
[06:23] <MenZa> I'm sending it now :D
[06:23] <Klaidas> :)
[06:24] <jenda> not there yet ;)
[06:25] <MenZa> jenda: nah, it bounced
[06:25] <MenZa> my client is stinky atm
[07:29] <jenda> hello zenrox
[07:29] <zenrox> ello
[08:02] <jenda> Hello Mr. Cogito_ergo_sum
[08:02] <jenda> :)
[08:23] <jenda> Scared him away?