[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting) Done
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting)  * Orca - It's great to see it on the live CD! I've done some testing and have helped several blind users with testing with advice and a HOWTO
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting)  * Dicussions with Orca upstream on better ways of integrating it with the Ubuntu desktop (so that it doesn't get in people's way)
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting)  * onBoard - Met Chris for va status meeting yesterday. We are hoping to get this through universe and into main during the next few days. Advice appreciated.
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting)  * Finally got rolling with some desktop bug triage today
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting)  * Other: Preparing the release of the OpenCD v4
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting) To do
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting)  * Make final decision on Orca placement within the Gnome menu structure. If a few annoyances are not addressed (from Orca) we may leave out the menu item (this is not as bad as it sounds because blind users often prefer to launch things from the command prompt anyway)
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting)  * Get onBoard into main and on the CD
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting)  * theOpenCD release foo
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting)  * More bug triage
[05:19] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting) seb128: can you give me qa-team powers?
[05:20] (dholbach/#ubuntu-meeting) heno: i can do
[05:20] (seb128/#ubuntu-meeting) hum, I've to look at that
[05:20] (Kamion/#ubuntu-meeting) I think pitti comes back on Monday, which will make main promotions easier
[05:20] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting) dholbach: thanks
[05:20] (seb128/#ubuntu-meeting) dholbach job usually
[05:20] (seb128/#ubuntu-meeting) ok, dholbach on it, all fine then
[05:20] (fabbione/#ubuntu-meeting) (FYI: the logs should be back again. thanks feenode for your amazing amount of netsplit)
[05:20] (heno/#ubuntu-meeting) ok, just so I can set bug priorities
[05:20] (fabbione/#ubuntu-meeting) have fun guys
[05:20] <Kamion> fabbione: thanks. (you're on holiday so I don't need an update from you, right?)
[05:21] <ogra> fabbione, go back to your little one
[05:21] <fabbione> Kamion: yes i will be in vac also next week
[05:21] <fabbione> ogra: yup...
[05:21] <Kamion> heno: oh, I was to send a mail to seb128 about sudo-admin-atspi, wasn't I?
[05:21] <ogra> :)
[05:21] <fabbione> thanks guys
[05:21] <fabbione> take care
[05:21] <ogra> you too
[05:21] <heno> Kamion: I sent one
[05:21] <Kamion> heno: I'll do that straight after the meeting if you haven't
[05:21] <Kamion> ok, good
[05:21] <doko> fabbione: please could you check a newer OOo build for sparc today/tomorrow?
[05:21] <Kamion> seb128: does that stuff look applyable?
[05:22] <seb128> Kamion: I've not looked at it yet, but will do after meeting or tomorrow
[05:22] <Kamion> heno: is there anything left of livecd-access other than my gfxboot stufff?
[05:22] <Kamion> -f
[05:22] <Kamion> seb128: thanks
[05:22] <seb128> np
[05:22] <heno> Kamion: in a sense the Orca and onBoard inclusion ties into that
[05:23] <heno> as does the At-spi/sudo stuff
[05:23] <Kamion> right, I mean anything not mentioned yet
[05:23] <heno> and the gksudo grabbing focus thing
[05:23] <heno> ^
[05:23] <Kamion> there is ubiquity-casper work there, right?
[05:23] <heno> Yes, just changing a few commands like, gnopernicus -> orca
[05:24] <heno> and gok -> onboard
[05:24] <Kamion> please https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/50319
[05:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 50319 in casper "Accessibility options are not preserved on installs" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
[05:24] <Kamion> er, s/please/plus/
[05:24] <heno> It would also be nice to get the defaults copied to the HD install
[05:24] <heno> right
[05:24] <Kamion> yes, can you make sure there's a casper bug filed about that?
[05:24] <Kamion> and subscribe me to it
[05:24] <heno> yep, cool
[05:25] <Kamion> ok, thanks heno
[05:25] <Kamion> Riddell: ?
[05:25] <Riddell> done:
[05:25] <Riddell>     distro sprint
[05:25] <Riddell>     processing e-mail backlog gathered during feature period
[05:25] <Riddell>     knot 2 testing
[05:25] <Riddell>     artwork packaging
[05:25] <Riddell> blocked:
[05:25] <Riddell>     ruby
[05:25] <Riddell>     kubuntu-accessibility: needs changes in casper by mithrandir
[05:25] <Riddell> todo:
[05:25] <Riddell>     updates to kubuntu-power-management
[05:25] <Riddell>     gather up list of priority bugs for edgy (and fix them)
[05:25] <Riddell>     KDE 4 packages
[05:26] <Kamion> Riddell: "langpacks-desktopfiles-kde - some packages need to be rebuilt" - has that been done?
[05:26] <Mithrandir> Riddell: if you want to speed up the kubuntu-accessibility stuff, give me a casper branch to merge from.
[05:27] <Riddell> Kamion: no, missed knot freeze, I can do it afterwards
[05:27] <Kamion> Riddell: ok
[05:27] <Riddell> Mithrandir: ok, I can do that
[05:27] <Mithrandir> Riddell: thanks, sorry for not acting on it earlier.
[05:27] <Kamion> Riddell: mdz's notes say "needs integration from colin (gfxboot)" for kubuntu-accessibility, but I think we covered that at the sprint
[05:28] <Riddell> Kamion: yes, that is fine
[05:28] <Kamion> all right
[05:28] <Kamion> kwwii: ?
[05:28] <kwwii> In addition to fixing parts of the work already included (kdm, power-manager icons,, etc.) I whipped up an amarok theme (thingking about using a totally different one though).
[05:28] <kwwii> Started to play with the different versions of the gradients. people like purple! (some like the yellow/orange more than others).
[05:28] <kwwii> In the end all of this is linked together, as the same colors are used in many different pieces of the artwork. Working on moving the entire theme to a blue-purple gradient and see peoples reactions.
[05:29] <kwwii> Andreas Lloyd will be at my home tomorrow, anthropologizing me :-)
[05:29] <Kamion> have fun ;-)
[05:29] <ogra> heh
[05:29] <kwwii> Will start making the guidance hardware database interface pics this week
[05:29] <Kamion> kwwii: "icons - maybe start during sprint, finish and upload before feature freeze" - is that still on track?
[05:29] <ogra> send greetings :)
[05:29] <kwwii> Kamion: we dropped that idea from edgy, moved more to edgy+1 (the new icons will come in kde4)
[05:29] <kwwii> The only really oustanding issue is the usplash...depending on what is possible we will make one soon
[05:30] <kwwii> guess I should update that spec
[05:30] <Riddell> kwwiis icons are included in my updates to kubuntu-power-management too
[05:30] <Kamion> kwwii: oh, ok; yes, please mark the spec as deferred and send mail to me/mdz about it
[05:30] <fschoep> kwwii: I contacted Matthew Garrett on usplash, but I don't have a definitive answer to what artwork to provide yet
[05:30] <kwwii> Kamion: cool, I talked to matt about this at the sprint...will do :-)
[05:31] <sladen> fschoep: the capabilities may not be set in stone yet
[05:31] <kwwii> fschoep: I think that we will end up with the old system again
[05:31] <Kamion> mjg59: ^--
[05:31] <kwwii> fschoep: perhaps removing the text or such, but I am not holding my breath for the new features
[05:31] <Seveas> fschoep, sladen: I have it working on 1024x768 with 256 colors for i386/amd64
[05:31] <fschoep> OK, but my screen does only 800x600 (example)
[05:31] <Seveas> I need to borrow someones mac to implement ppc bits
[05:32] <Keybuk> mjg59 seemed confident about usplash at the weekend
[05:32] <Keybuk> though he was mostly distracted by compiz :)
[05:32] <kwwii> well, if there is improvements, it only makes things easier for the artists
[05:32] <Seveas> Keybuk, he still is (talked to him yesterday) -- the code just needs to be written
[05:32] <Keybuk> SMOP
[05:32] <Kamion> minor tweaks are ok after feature freeze, just not major reworks :-)
[05:33] <Seveas> Keybuk, (if interested, I've published my changes in a branch on lp)
[05:33] <ogra> right, its *edgy* :)
[05:33] <Kamion> ok, let's move detailed usplash discussion to -devel; thanks kwwii
[05:33] <Kamion> doko: ?
[05:33] <Keybuk> Kamion: I think we have to accept some uplash rework anyway, simply because of how other specs effect it (b-m-i)
[05:33] <Keybuk> uh, b-m-l ... b-m-i is a local airline
[05:33] <doko> - this week
[05:33] <doko>   - openoffice.org - OOo 2.0.4 rc1 builds, gstreamer support, i386 currently
[05:33] <doko>     doesn't work on amd64, ia32-libs updates,
[05:33] <doko>     start adding compat packages for dapper-proposed.
[05:33] <doko>   - openoffice.org-hyphenation: license status for the various languages is
[05:33] <doko>     clarified; will need to split the patterns in a free and a non-free part.
[05:33] <doko>   - edgy-toolchain: final classpath-0.92 backport uploaded to edgy
[05:33] <doko>   - upgraded amd64 server to edgy (but still OOo shows build failures, although
[05:34] <doko>     it builds in the data center :-/).
[05:34] <doko> - this week / next week:
[05:34] <doko>   - python2.5
[05:34] <doko>   - OOo
[05:34] <doko>   - knot-2 testing / upgrade amd64 workstation; need to get local OOo builds
[05:34] <doko>     going.
[05:34] <Kamion> mdz says:
[05:34] <Kamion> matthias
[05:34] <Kamion>         notes lost due to resume failure
[05:34] <Kamion> (well, damn)
[05:34] <ogra> Keybuk, and b-m-l is ? 
[05:34] <Keybuk> ogra: boot-message-logging
[05:34] <ogra> ah
[05:34] <ogra> thanks
[05:34] <doko> Kamion: ?
[05:34] <Kamion> doko: (the notes I have from mdz's conversations with everyone at the sprint - apparently he lost yours)
[05:35] <ogra> doko, mdz lost the notes from your face to face talk in wiesbaden
[05:35] <doko> argh!
[05:35] <doko> he didn't tell me
[05:35] <Kamion> doko: so, I'm just trying to get a grip on the status of your specs hre
[05:35] <Kamion> here
[05:36] <Kamion> edgy-toolchain-roadmap> is there anything left? we shouldn't be doing much more toolchain work at this point
[05:36] <Kamion> edgyplusone-toolchain-roadmap I'm assuming is a special case and will start happening after FF
[05:36] <doko> we updated them at the sprint. should be up to date.
[05:36] <Kamion> ooo-langpacks is unknown? openoffice-spellchecking is not started?
[05:36] <doko> edgy-toolchain-roadmap: libc/libstdc++ ABI issues on powerpc and sparc; need to get jbailey
[05:37] <Kamion> packaging-hints I suppose can drift
[05:37] <doko> edgyplusone-toolchain-roadmap: yes, we did want to open edgy+1 for the toolchain in the near future
[05:37] <Kamion> python-roadmap looks mostly done, although I've noticed the odd issue - are you going to do another pass to make sure all the stragglers are cleaned up?
[05:37] <Kamion> generally speaking I've been rejecting new packages that don't meet python-roadmap
[05:37] <Keybuk> me also
[05:37] <doko> ooo-langpacks: bounty for haggai
[05:38] <Kamion> I don't know if we'll actually open edgy+1, but the toolchain can always be staged somewhere
[05:38] <Kamion> when was that communicated to haggai
[05:38] <doko> python-roadmap: you'll get an update of syncs (without changelogs) for some more packages (and zope)
[05:38] <Kamion> ?
[05:38] <Keybuk> Kamion: "PPA" :p
[05:38] <Kamion> ok (grumble :-))
[05:38] <doko> Kamion: did talk with mdz at the sprint and with haggai this week
[05:39] <Kamion> python2.5 you covered; let me/mdz know if that needs to be deferred
[05:39] <doko> openoffice-spellchecking: yes, these are the hypenation patterns
[05:39] <Kamion> likewise for ooo-langpacks
[05:39] <doko> python2.5: will do. won't become the default, but will rebuild the library packages to build the 2.5 extensions as well
[05:40] <doko> ooo-langpacks won't be ready for ff, but for the OOo 2.0.4 release (which is mid September)
[05:40] <Kamion> ok, I think that's covered it, then
[05:41] <Kamion> hmm, we'll have to discuss that as a FF exception nearer the time, if you haven't done so with mdz already
[05:41] <Kamion> ok, thanks doko
[05:41] <Kamion> mvo_: ?
[05:41] <mvo_> Did:
[05:41] <mvo_> * dev-meeting Wiesbaden
[05:41] <mvo_> * gnome-app-install upload with caching support (startup speedups), bugfixes
[05:41] <mvo_> * cdrom based dist-upgrades spec: implementation in dist-upgrader started, basic support ready and uploaded
[05:41] <mvo_> * notification-daemon: backport sizing problem fix, fixed (in edgy): sizing and shape problem for downward arrows, added experimental "composition" branch that makes notifications transparent
[05:41] <mvo_> * misc (bash cmd-not-found, some apt rdepends, language-selector, looked over apts breaks support, hplip upgrade problem, realplayer upload)
[05:41] <mvo_> * bug triage
[05:41] <mvo_> Blocked:
[05:41] <mvo_> * review of the "AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse" spec
[05:41] <mvo_> Will do:
[05:41] <mvo_> * more work on the cdrom based dist-ugprades spec, finish update-notifier support and get in touch with kamion about the best way to integrate it onto the CD
[05:41] <mvo_> * go over the outstanding apt issues/bugs
[05:41] <mvo_> * add "mark manually installed" button to synaptic (control the auto-installed information)
[05:41] <Kamion> oh, that's another one for my to-do
[05:41] <Kamion>   cdrom-based-dist-upgrades: Add upgrader to CD images.
[05:42] <mvo_> :)
[05:42] <Kamion> so most of your specs are "beta available"; is there a substantial amount more to be done on any of them?
[05:42] <mvo_> Kamion: I opened a bug and asked for advice about the place to put it in the build-scripts, if I get feedback there I should be able to add it myself
[05:43] <Kamion> mvo_: ok, noted, I'll get back to you on that
[05:43] <mvo_> the recommends-supports needs some more work to make it possible to turn it only on for selected packages/package-ranges (e.g. only meta-package or only main)
[05:43] <mvo_> the dependency-removal needs better support in aptitude and synaptic to be perfect
[05:43] <Kamion> recommends-supports> that sounds like it might be worse to have in an incomplete state than not at all; send me/mdz mail if it needs to be deferred
[05:44] <mvo_> but it is in good shape and I think I can get some more done within the week
[05:44] <Kamion> dependency-removal can stay in there in partial form, I imagine
[05:44] <mvo_> Kamion: it is complete, it is just not enabled by default yet. I talked with mdz about enabling it only for partial packages by default
[05:45] <Kamion> ah, so at least people can do --with-recommends explicitly, ok
[05:45] <mvo_> yes
[05:45] <Kamion> anything left to do on the popcon specs?
[05:46] <mvo_> beside advocating to get more people to enable it, no :)
[05:46] <ogra> btw, ltsp has a popcon mode included for thin clients ;)
[05:46] <mvo_> someone should blog about that great popcon thing
[05:46] <Kamion> I imagine those can be marked Implemented then
[05:46] <mvo_> ok
[05:46] <dholbach> mvo_: didn't you just create a new blog? :)
[05:46] <ogra> he did ????
[05:47] <ogra> he needs a hackergochi !
[05:47] <mvo_> dholbach: *shhhsssss*
[05:47] <Kamion> command-not-found I've seen activity on today
[05:47] <Kamion> apt-ddtp - that had some Soyuz work done, is it mostly complete?
[05:48] <mvo_> Kamion: command-not-found is in the archive, if it gets installed it should work out of the box, its a matter of fine tuning the database now 
[05:48] <mvo_> apt-ddtp is complete as well (modulo bugs and automatic imports/export of the translations, that is currently a manual process, I do the uploads)
[05:49] <Kamion> ok, we have six more people to go and 12 minutes to do that in, eek
[05:49] <Kamion> thanks mvo
[05:49] <mvo_> thanks Kamion
[05:49] <Kamion> ogra: ?
[05:49] <ogra> * this-week:
[05:49] <ogra>  - thinclient-local-devices - finished, hunting last bugs, included in knot2
[05:49] <ogra>  - student-control-panel-completion - pete savage has nearly done the complete spec implementation (three cheers for him !!!), need to review the code
[05:49] <ogra>  - ltsp-login-and-session-handling - good progress, ldm side done, the 20 line server bit needs packaging
[05:49] <ogra>  - ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration - slow progress ready for knot 3
[05:49] <mvo_> ogra: you have 2 minutes :P
[05:49] <ogra>  - fully-automatic-swap-server - reassigned to rodarvus
[05:49] <ogra>  - knot 2 preparation
[05:49] <ogra> * next-week:
[05:49] <ogra>  - implement ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration
[05:49] <ogra>  - finish ltsp-login-and-session-handling
[05:49] <ogra>  - finish ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration
[05:49] <ogra>  - merge remaining debian changes into ltsp
[05:49] <ogra>  - fix gnome-session fade and logout handling on thin clients (and see if the latter is appropriate to backport to dapper)
[05:49] <ogra>  - look into gnome-screensaver GL hacks supression
[05:49] <ogra> * other specs: 
[05:49] <ogra>  - ltsp-daily-image-tarballs - mdz requested i should do a meeting with infinity before feature freeze to run it on the livefs build machines (to be scheduled)
[05:49] <ogra>  - ltsp-convergence: (no progress, multi distro meeting sept. 14th-19th)
[05:49] <ogra>  - ltsp-netboot-enhancement: (no further progress debian patches applied locally)
[05:50] <ogra> mvo_, done :P
[05:50] <rodarvus> dude, you have a lot to do next week :D
[05:50] <ogra> right
[05:50] <ogra> well, the gnome-screensaver stuff is a bugfix ...
[05:50] <Kamion> I've made a note about the meeting with infinity; perhaps you could mail him and cc me, if you haven't already
[05:50] <ogra> but likely intrusive
[05:50] <Kamion> implement *and* finish ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration? :-)
[05:50] <Riddell> and up to 45MB to remove from the edubuntu CDs
[05:50] <ogra> Kamion, i havent yet, wanted to meet up next week some day
[05:51] <Kamion> ltsp-login-and-session-handling is currently marked Not Started; I'll move it to good progress
[05:51] <ogra> Kamion, right, now that i have a CD thats easier ;)
[05:51] <ogra> thanks 
[05:51] <ogra> i think i'm done tomorrow ... its quite trivial
[05:52] <Kamion> ok, spec status looks manageable then, thanks
[05:52] <ogra> Riddell, i dont care for the live cds yet ... its not what we ship, so its not highest prio for me
[05:52] <Kamion> rodarvus: ?
[05:52] <rodarvus> Done:
[05:52] <rodarvus>  * Return from developers Sprint, recovering from X incident
[05:52] <rodarvus>  * Ubuntu OLPC headhunting (two positions, ping me if you know someone)
[05:52] <rodarvus>  * work on fully-automatic-swap-server
[05:52] <rodarvus>  * Ubuntu OLPC administrativia
[05:52] <rodarvus> Todo:
[05:52] <rodarvus>  * X security updates are possibly needed, need to check those with pitti
[05:52] <rodarvus>  * finish fully-automatic-swap-server (hopefully today)
[05:52] <rodarvus>  * more headhunting
[05:52] <rodarvus>  * Lots of documentation and administrativia for Ubuntu OLPC
[05:52] <rodarvus>  * Some X.Org uploads (driver updates, last aiglx modifications)
[05:52] <rodarvus>  * X "current status" email, describing whats done, whats missing, and what would be nice to have for edgy+1 (so someone can pick up from here)
[05:53] <Kamion> sounds good. We'll give you more specs next time round ;-)
[05:53] <ogra> haha
[05:53] <rodarvus> as my weekly report tries to mention, I won't be able to give X much attention from now on (this is being repeted for the last few weeks :) ). Help on stuff that needs fixing before edgy is released is appreciated
[05:54] <ogra> Kamion, i tried that .. and then he got X :)
[05:54] <mvo_> rodarvus: we enable composite by default now, would it make sense to run a xcompmgr by default then too if we detect DRI?
[05:54] <Kamion> we're in a much better position now with respect to X/Debian merging than we were in edgy
[05:54] <ogra> yep
[05:54] <rodarvus> I'll have my hands quite full with OLPC stuff from now on
[05:54] <ogra> kudos rodarvus 
[05:54] <Mithrandir> Kamion: s/edgy/dapper/?
[05:54] <Kamion> er, yes, dapper
[05:54] <Mithrandir> rodarvus: can we discuss more about how to do X for the rest of the cycle in #u-x afterwards?
[05:55] <rodarvus> Mithrandir, sure, would be great
[05:55] <rodarvus> thanks guys :)
[05:55] <Kamion> mvo_: feels like edgy+1, but is a discussion for elsewhere anyway
[05:55] <Kamion> thanks rodarvus
[05:55] <Kamion> Keybuk: ?
[05:55] <Keybuk> Done:
[05:55] <Keybuk>  * OMGWTFBBQ
[05:55] <Keybuk>  * ReplacementInit: in the archive, working on full compatibility for sysvinit so that we can replace that package with only elmo noticing
[05:55] <Keybuk>  * BootMessageLogging: stalled pending completion of RI (which implements it)
[05:55] <Keybuk> To do:
[05:55] <rodarvus> mvo_, I don't think xcompmgr is necessary, is it?
[05:55] <Keybuk>  * Figure out what I'm doing to the console that kills X
[05:55] <Keybuk>  * Split sysvinit into sysvinit and sysvutils (pidof, killall5, last, etc.)
[05:55] <Keybuk>  * Upload upstart that c/r sysvinit
[05:56] <Riddell> lots of sladenporn from the BBQ, but no keybuk porn 
[05:56] <Keybuk> Riddell: hmm?
[05:56] <Riddell> later :)
[05:56] <Kamion> Keybuk: c/r sysvinit and depends: sysvutils, I guess
[05:56] <ogra> *corner
[05:56] <rodarvus> mvo_, we'd need to update it to latest version and promote to main too (we can talk about this later if you want, though)
[05:57] <Keybuk> Kamion: the latter has to be an essential package anyway, but yes
[05:57] <mvo_> rodarvus: I would like to talk about that at some point (maybe tomorrow, I will leave in ~30min)
[05:57] <Kamion> ok, looking good. what's the probability that we have to defer replacement-init at this point?
[05:57] <rodarvus> sure, lets do it tomorrow
[05:57] <Keybuk> Kamion: at this point, I'm really happy with it, so I don't think we'll need to at all
[05:58] <Keybuk> the main blocker now is just a code review from martin
[05:58] <Kamion> excellent
[05:58] <Keybuk> I've completely implemented runlevel compatibility
[05:58] <Kamion> I'll do some code review early next week as well; remind me
[05:59] <Keybuk> so "telinit 4" works for the freaks, and they can grovel in utmp for the runlevel, etc.
[05:59] <ogra> pitto will have a hard week next week
[05:59] <ogra> *pitti
[05:59] <Kamion> thanks Keybuk, we'd better move on
[05:59] <Kamion> seb128: ?
[05:59] <seb128> This week:
[05:59] <seb128> * played with aiglx, compiz, etc
[05:59] <seb128> * packaged goocanvas, pygoocanvas, looked at uslab (contributor work on the new panel applet from Novel)
[05:59] <seb128> * bug triage, bug triage, bug triage
[05:59] <seb128> * some GNOME updates and desktop bugs fixed
[05:59] <seb128> .
[05:59] <seb128> Next week:
[05:59] <seb128> * keep bug triaging
[05:59] <seb128> * GNOME 2.16.0
[06:01] <seb128> hehe :)
[06:01] <Kamion> how are desktop bugs holding?
[06:01] <seb128> we are slightly catching up I think
[06:02] <seb128> but there is still lot of them, we could use some extra hand 
[06:02] <dholbach> we're barely able to stem the tide
[06:02] <Kamion> I know the feeling
[06:02] <Kamion> ok, well if anyone reading has spare time ...
[06:02] <Kamion> thanks seb128
[06:03] <Kamion> sfllaw: here? (worth another try)
[06:03] <Kamion> Mithrandir: ?
[06:03] <Mithrandir> sane-installer-keyboard: needs d-i upload, will do post-knot, as well as testing
[06:03] <Mithrandir> live-cd-write-as-you-go:  no progress, will rescue
[06:03] <Mithrandir> livecd-sessions: defer
[06:03] <Mithrandir> misc: knot-2 release preparations - almost there now.
[06:03] <Mithrandir> next week: live-cd-write-as-you-go: get it implemented, get the kde accessibility stuff implemented
[06:03] <Kamion> Mithrandir: sane-installer-keyboard needs a ubiquity patch too
[06:04] <Mithrandir> Kamion: yeah, I know.
[06:04] <Mithrandir> I'm a bit too good at keeping statuses in my head rather than in launchpad.
[06:04] <Kamion> live-cd-write-as-you-go> depends on how much work it is; if it won't make it by FF, better defer it concentrate on finishing up everything else
[06:04] <sfllaw> Kamion: Yeah, I'm here.  I'm ill.
[06:04] <Kamion> s/concentrate/and concentrate/
[06:04] <sfllaw> Just woke up.  Had a bad night.
[06:05] <Kamion> oh, but live-cd-write-as-you-go was a fallback from livecd-sessions, hmm
[06:05] <Mithrandir> Kamion: yeah.  I have to have something to do after FF too, if not fix bugs, then what? ;-P
[06:05] <Kamion> Mithrandir: please mark livecd-sessions deferred in LP if you haven't already
[06:05] <Kamion> Mithrandir: by definition, not features :)
[06:05] <Mithrandir> Kamion: will do (haven't yet)
[06:05] <Kamion> (and send mail to me/mdz about the deferral)
[06:06] <Mithrandir> willdo
[06:06] <Kamion> thanks for your good work on knot-2
[06:06] <Mithrandir> I hope the freeze has been less painful for people this time around.
[06:06] <Kamion> sfllaw: ok, you're excused then, get well soon
[06:07] <rodarvus> Mithrandir, knot-2 was really great compared to knot-1. congratulations
[06:07] <Mithrandir> rodarvus: it's not out yet. :-)
[06:07] <Kamion> Mithrandir: also 50319 and copying accessibility defaults; let me know if you need me to take over either/both of those
[06:07] <rodarvus> Mithrandir, will it take another 5 days? :)
[06:07] <Kamion> 50319 is at least half mine anyway
[06:07] <ogra> rodarvus, its not even fully tested
[06:08] <Mithrandir> rodarvus: don't jinx it
[06:08] <Kamion> BenC: yep, I think it's your turn now
[06:08] <BenC> libata: Defered for edgy+1. UUID parts implemented for edgy (some bootloaders still need attention, but not as pressing an issue).
[06:08] <BenC> kernel crash dumps: kexec-tools uploaded, need to add script for dropping to shell in initramfs and capturing the crash info.
[06:08] <BenC> The rest of the kernel: Coming along well. Unfortunately, I was not able to get the big shiny new kernel update done in time for Knot-2, but it will be there for people to update to.
[06:08] <BenC> Work last week: kernel bugs
[06:08] <BenC> Work next week: them kernel bugs still
[06:08] <BenC> .
[06:08] <BenC> Have done a lot of work getting dapper bugs tested on edgy. Will continue this so that we can see what bugs are still affecting us, and which are fixed simply because edgy kernel is newer. Bugs that are still present across dapper/edgy will be pushed upstream. If bugs are fixed by edgy, will attempt to backport fixes for dapper.
[06:08] <BenC> just want to make sure I wasn't forgotten like week before last :)
[06:08] <Mithrandir> Kamion: I'll grab 50319
[06:08] <Kamion> we should really get at least yaboot done before FF
[06:09] <BenC> yeah, I have work-in-progress in yabooyt
[06:09] <BenC> which will transfer easily to silo
[06:09] <Kamion> good - I ran out of time for it :(
[06:10] <Kamion> BenC: is the above all that's left from linux-kernel-crash-dumps?
[06:10] <ogra> lets not do a 4 month cycle again !
[06:10] <Kamion> amen
[06:11] <BenC> Kamion: now that I figured out why my kexec-tools upload wasn't getting accepted, all that's needed is that script for initramfs...should be rather simple
[06:11] <Kamion> BenC: ok, I'll mark it good progress then
[06:12] <Kamion> right, and I think we're done
[06:12] <Kamion> any other business before we close?
[06:12] <ogra> only 12mins over :)
[06:13] <Kamion> ok, let's move anything else to #ubuntu-devel
[06:13] <Kamion> thank you all for your time; adjourned
[06:13] <ogra> thanks Kamion 
[06:13] <fschoep> OK, thanks Kamion, everyone.
[06:13] <doko> thanks
[06:14] <seb128> thank you
[06:14] <ranf> bug #50319
[06:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 50319 in casper "Accessibility options are not preserved on installs" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/50319
[06:14] <mvo_> thanks
[06:14] <dholbach> thanks Kamion
[06:14] <kwwii> thanks, see you next week :-)
[06:32] <Arbiter> @schedule Europe/Rome
[06:32] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Rome: Current meeting: Ubuntu Development Team | 06 Sep 00:00: Community Council | 07 Sep 23:00: Kubuntu
[06:32] <Arbiter> aawww CC at midnight!
[06:41] <Burgwork> @now vancouver
[06:41] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Vancouver: August 31 2006, 09:41:54 - Current meeting: Ubuntu Development Team