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SannefnTc^spNk: I have a 7600GT that works very nicely with the drivers from ubuntu.12:09
atomicas to install realplayer in kunbuntu12:09
fnTc^spNki did Sanne12:09
fnTc^spNkhmm12:09
fnTc^spNkwoot12:10
fnTc^spNknew driver is working fine now12:10
atomicas to install realplayer in kunbuntu12:10
fnTc^spNkat least the install12:10
SannefnTc^spNk: sounds good12:10
atomicas to install realplayer in kubuntu12:11
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fnTc^spNkhmm12:11
fnTc^spNki get some errors12:11
Sanne!pt12:11
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.12:11
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fnTc^spNkyou appear to have a modular release12:12
fnTc^spNkxorg release*12:12
fnTc^spNkbut nvidia could not find the 'pkg-config'12:12
fnTc^spNklets install that one first then12:12
SannefnTc^spNk: good idea12:12
fnTc^spNkdone :)12:13
SannefnTc^spNk: however, I'm not sure I know much about installing the driver from nvidia... I hope it works ;)12:14
fnTc^spNkhehe12:14
fnTc^spNknow it says i need the xorg SDK/developement package for my distribution12:15
fnTc^spNk:\12:15
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SannefnTc^spNk: if I were you, I would try to get the ubuntu driver working at this stage... might be easier after all.12:15
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fnTc^spNkhehe12:16
SannefnTc^spNk: or maybe you just need the development libs for x12:16
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fnTc^spNki guess ur right12:16
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fnTc^spNkyeah12:16
fnTc^spNkill just continue12:16
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Sannewe'll find those, sec12:16
fnTc^spNknevermind Sanne12:17
fnTc^spNkdriver works great :D12:17
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SannefnTc^spNk: maybe those? Should be in adept: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libx11-dev12:17
Ash-FoxIs there some way I can tell apt-build some build flags for a appliation (in my case it's firefox, and I want to build the QT version, in this case it's passing --enable-default-toolkit=QT to the configure script)12:17
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SannefnTc^spNk: oh?12:17
fnTc^spNk:)12:17
fnTc^spNkat least now it is working12:17
SannefnTc^spNk: mystic :)12:18
fnTc^spNklast time it didnt after i rebooted12:18
fnTc^spNk:x12:18
fnTc^spNkill reboot again12:18
fnTc^spNkbrb12:18
Sanneok12:18
dereks_hey, i have a kubuntu machine (had around a 150 day uptime). I rebooted it because i made some changes to something, and when i booted it back up, i got an ip address (eth0). I lost the ip address soon after. I rand dhclient and it couldn't get me one. So i changed everything back, rebooted... same problem. I remember i had this before on one of my dapper machines but i can't remember how to solve it...12:19
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fnTc^spNkhmm it still works Sanne :D12:21
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fnTc^spNkdo you have any experience with Q3 engine + linux?12:21
SannefnTc^spNk: good sign, isn't it? You got it all worked out yourself hehe.12:21
fnTc^spNkyeah i just required 1 package12:22
fnTc^spNk:/12:22
SannefnTc^spNk: Q3 works fine for me, had some sound issues though.12:22
fnTc^spNkyeah the sound12:22
atomicas to install realplayer in kubuntu12:23
SannefnTc^spNk: for me the solution was, turn off arts, and scrap the onboard sound and put in my old trusty sb 128 pci.12:23
fnTc^spNkarts?12:23
SannefnTc^spNk: the sound server in kubuntu12:23
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fnTc^spNkhmm12:23
fnTc^spNkALSA right ?12:23
SannefnTc^spNk: no, alsa provides the driver. Arts is a sound server like esd for gnome, or jack.12:24
fnTc^spNkoh ok12:24
SannefnTc^spNk: a sound server tries to provide the possibility to have more than one app use the sound device.12:24
SannefnTc^spNk: so the apps use alsa through the sound server instead of directly.12:25
fnTc^spNkhmm i read something about that12:25
SannefnTc^spNk: some apps are unable to do that, though, so it might help sometimes to turn the sound server off.12:25
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ShafrirHi all!12:26
fnTc^spNkhi12:27
ShafrirJust installed Kubuntu 6.0612:27
fnTc^spNkSanne: someone helped me with the sound before12:27
fnTc^spNkbut then my sudo didnt work anymore so i couldnt do anything12:27
SannefnTc^spNk: oh, sounds serious12:27
fnTc^spNkso ill just ask that person again to help me :)12:27
ShafrirI have a question: how can I fix the screen shift?12:28
fnTc^spNkcoz they didnt had to disable sound thingy12:28
arthompsspnk... i'd just reinstall... your comp sounds fubared.12:28
fnTc^spNki already did arthomps12:28
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otaku-sanShafrir: cool beans!  What do you mean screen shift?12:28
fnTc^spNkthats why i had to reinstall my vga driver ;)12:28
otaku-sanShafrir: explain...like is it off a bit and you see black a bit on the side?12:29
SannefnTc^spNk: yes, by all mens, ask the person again, no worries :)12:29
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fnTc^spNkwhat do u mean Sanne ?12:30
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SanneI'm referring to: fnTc^spNk> so ill just ask that person again to help me :)12:31
Sannebrb, coffee12:31
Shafrir/me12:31
andi_how can i formate a exttern disk ?12:32
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dr_willisandi_,  Huh?12:32
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Shafrir ?12:34
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djonsalut a tous12:36
fnTc^spNkSanne: u mean that my sudo wont work again? :P12:36
Shafrir***Falling to sleep12:36
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djonproblme avec gtk+ qq peut t'il m'aider?12:37
Sanneback12:39
wordOk..so i have a problem where when i leave my computer on for about 2 days...things start getting funky memory fills up etc. lots of seek errors (87% sure not an hd error) then when i restart Xgl doesn't start up..I got the output from dmesg after having it on for a couple days - http://pastebin.ca/156686 and after it fails to start up - http://pastebin.ca/156688 I just now realized on this occurance of the problem..that by doing /etc/init.d/kdm12:39
wordhink this is kdm's fault or something but this never happened with X...any ideas?12:39
madman__Sanne: wb12:39
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dr_williswell.. try not using xgl.12:40
SannefnTc^spNk: I hope it will... I never encountered a non working sudo. All I know is that you need to be in the admin group, I think.12:40
ironfroggyhow can i tell something to be installed along with its recommended packages?12:40
fnTc^spNkhmm12:41
fnTc^spNkwait ill show u something maybe u know where to put it12:41
fnTc^spNksec12:41
Sanneok12:41
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dereks_so is asnyone able to tell me why i randomly lose my ip/network connection?12:42
fnTc^spNkhmm12:42
fnTc^spNk!paste12:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:42
fnTc^spNkhttp://www.xfire.be/?x=journal&mode=item&id=17296#31901212:42
fnTc^spNkread Meez's post Sanne12:42
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Sanneok12:43
SannefnTc^spNk: ah, I tried this also, but after I switched soundcards, I didn't need to do this anymore.12:44
fnTc^spNkoh ok12:44
soulriderid otn know why12:44
fnTc^spNkbut i dont have other sound card12:44
soulriderbut if i leave azureus open for like 15 hours and im not on the Pc12:44
soulriderwhen i come back tot he PCE KDE is all locked up and i gotta restart x server12:44
fnTc^spNkbut Sanne do u know where to put those lines?12:45
kutan!smell12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
John-ZDoes anyone use bitlbee here?12:45
SannefnTc^spNk: I had some success with that, I got sound, but after a moment Q3 locked up hard and the sound began to stutter. I don't know the exact cause of that, it went away with my soundblaster.12:45
fnTc^spNkhmm12:46
fnTc^spNkwell others say it works12:46
fnTc^spNkso i could alway try i guess12:46
SannefnTc^spNk: you need to execute those lines in a terminal as root, and pay attention to what Meez sais, use tab completion to get the correct file in /proc12:46
Larynxwhat is SCIM?12:46
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fnTc^spNkhmm12:47
SannefnTc^spNk: there's also a topic about that in ubuntuforums (which I used)12:47
fnTc^spNkyeah12:47
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fnTc^spNkh,,12:48
fnTc^spNkhmm12:48
fnTc^spNkSanne: it says acces denied12:48
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SannefnTc^spNk: you need to prepend the command with sudo12:48
Charimscrimsun: ping12:48
fnTc^spNki did :/12:48
Sanneoh!12:49
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SannefnTc^spNk: here's one of the threads: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84103&highlight=direct+quake312:50
SannefnTc^spNk: second post12:50
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fnTc^spNkhmm12:52
fnTc^spNkSanne: im not playing Q3, dunno if u noticed12:52
fnTc^spNkso i just have to set et.x86 instead of Q3.x86?12:52
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SannefnTc^spNk: I think youneed to put the name of the binary, is this et.x86 for Enemy Territory?12:53
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fnTc^spNkyes12:53
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Sanneyes, then that would be correct, I guess.12:54
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, whats the prob with et....maby i can help12:54
fnTc^spNkthe sound12:54
fnTc^spNk=)12:54
SpAwNno sound...weird noises?12:54
SpAwNpls elaborate12:54
fnTc^spNkno sound :)12:54
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Zamboulieay12:55
Zambouliewadup12:55
SpAwNallright and sound obviously works in other things...ie movies and u can listen to music?12:55
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fnTc^spNkyes12:55
Zamboulie!mp312:55
Charimshaha, seems to be a common problem... have you guys seen the "Comprehensive sound problems solutions guide" on the the ubuntu forums?12:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:55
SpAwNk12:55
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, do this12:55
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, open a console and type "killall artsd" no "s ...then type et to start the game12:55
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fnTc^spNki did SpAwN12:57
fnTc^spNkwhat now12:57
Charimscrimsun: ping12:57
SpAwNwell did u hafe sunds?12:57
SpAwN*have12:57
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fnTc^spNknope12:57
SpAwNthe killall artsd will only free the sound device12:57
SpAwNallright12:57
fnTc^spNkuh?12:57
fnTc^spNki was still hearing music12:57
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, k12:58
fnTc^spNk------- sound initialization -------12:58
fnTc^spNkCould not open /dev/dsp12:58
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, stop any music12:58
fnTc^spNk------- sound initialization -------12:58
fnTc^spNk/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy12:58
fnTc^spNkCould not open /dev/dsp12:58
SpAwNanything that is sung sound12:58
fnTc^spNkok12:58
SpAwN*using12:58
SpAwNno music...nothing12:58
fnTc^spNkdone12:58
SpAwNonce u do that12:58
SpAwNrerun killall artsd12:58
SpAwNthen imediatly start ey12:58
SpAwN*et12:58
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fnTc^spNkstill no sound12:59
SpAwNalot of programs will use all of the sound device and not let anything else use12:59
SpAwNhmmm12:59
SpAwNwell that error is a clue to somthing is still using the sound device12:59
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fnTc^spNk------- sound initialization -------01:00
fnTc^spNk/dev/dsp: Input/output error01:00
fnTc^spNkCould not mmap /dev/dsp01:00
fnTc^spNk------------------------------------01:00
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soulriderproblems with ET?01:00
fnTc^spNkyup01:00
soulrideri could get sound working01:01
soulriderbut only once :P01:01
fnTc^spNklol01:01
SpAwNmy sound works everytime01:01
Charimshaha, today is sound problem day, just DON"T COMPILE YOUR OWN ALSA DRIVER! or u'll have problems....01:01
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, when u do killall artsd....does it say anything01:01
Charimsunless ure not a noob, then do whatever you want01:02
fnTc^spNkno01:02
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, k01:02
skavengei can get it every time but you've got echo a couple commands to /proc/asound .. found that fix on the forums01:02
soulriderim a noob01:02
fnTc^spNki didnt Charims .01:02
Charimsgood ;)01:02
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, try sudo killall artsd01:02
Charimsi did.. crimsun has been helping me through it...01:02
fnTc^spNkdoesnt say anything01:02
Charimsit opens up a can of worms...01:02
SannefnTc^spNk, SpAwN: I just found this, might also help: http://www.stacken.kth.se/~vuorio/sound.en.php01:03
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, even when u sue sudo?.....try it a few times using sudo01:03
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skavengeits cause et uses OSS thats half the problem ;/01:03
fnTc^spNkyes SpAwN01:03
fnTc^spNkstill nothing01:03
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, even when u do that command with sudo....it retuns no error01:04
SpAwNnot even no prosses killed01:04
Charimscrimsun: ping01:04
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skavengewhat Sanne just posted is what i use, try sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss then sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss01:04
fnTc^spNknope SpAwN01:04
fnTc^spNkskavenge: should i make a .sh for that?01:05
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, well somthing is hoggin your sound device01:05
fnTc^spNkor what01:05
fnTc^spNk:/01:05
skavengeyou could, i dont have to run it ALWAYS but with no sound i run it and it works01:05
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, do sudo killall -9 artsd01:05
fnTc^spNkno processes ended01:05
skavengei just use the commands i dont have it scripted myself01:06
SannefnTc^spNk, SpAwN, skavenge: there's also a mention of running et through arts with 'artsdsp -m /path/to/et', might be worth a try also if the other options don't help.01:06
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, then w/e was using the sound device is not using it01:06
SpAwNtry running et again01:06
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fnTc^spNk------- sound initialization -------01:06
fnTc^spNk/dev/dsp: Input/output error01:06
fnTc^spNkCould not mmap /dev/dsp01:06
fnTc^spNk-----------------------------------01:06
skavengetry the two sudo commands ;)01:07
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, yea u may as well try them commands01:07
Charimscrimsun: ping01:07
SpAwNCharims, if hes around he will probly anser01:07
Charimssorry, not trying to spam the channel, hejsut told me to do this yesterday...01:08
fnTc^spNkramon@ramon-desktop:~$ echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss01:08
fnTc^spNkbash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: Toegang geweigerd01:08
fnTc^spNkeven with sudo01:08
fnTc^spNkit says acces denied01:08
skavengetry Sanne's then maybe, that one you just did has always worked for me01:08
SpAwNCharims, yea understandable...but if he dont anser the 1st or 2nd time i doubt he will on a 3rd =d01:09
Charimshaha, sorry, ill stop for a while, maybe about an hour?01:09
fnTc^spNkthose are the same skavenge01:10
Charimsi just need him to fix my kubuntu install so it will run and we can finish up fixing my sound, kubuntu won't even boot up right now..01:10
SpAwNCharims, i personaly dont care how many times u do it.....but its like a phone and no one picks up.......its not considered polite to call it every 3 mins01:10
Charimshehe, kk01:10
skavengefnTc^spNk: im talking about running it with artsdsp -m /path/to/et he mentioned01:10
fnTc^spNkuh01:10
fnTc^spNk:$01:10
SpAwNCharims, what did u do to make kubuntu not boot/01:11
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fnTc^spNkim noob, what should i run?01:11
SpAwNfnTc^spNk, hang in there....i gurentee u wil get sound working01:11
fnTc^spNk:\01:11
Charimswell, i had to get rid of my compiled alsa driver, and crimsun brought me through that..., but now it won't even boot in recovery mode, fails on loading restriced drivers...01:11
Charimshe said we would finish today01:11
skavengewell id 'locate et' first, once it says where it is, then you do 'artsdsp -m /thepath/et'01:12
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Sanneskavenge, fnTc^spNk: remember to start the arts sound server before that, and I also read it must be set to oss.01:12
skavengeyeah thats the worst part thats why et's sound is such a headache .. if it was alsa, no prob ;/01:13
fnTc^spNk /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et01:13
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fnTc^spNk artsdsp -m /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et01:14
fnTc^spNk?01:14
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Xcaliburhow can I log in as root?01:14
Xcaliburrather than using sudo01:14
Charimswow, i need to clean my desk...01:15
Xcalibur?01:15
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fnTc^spNksu01:15
fnTc^spNkbut it didnt work for me01:15
fnTc^spNk:p01:15
fnTc^spNkartsdsp -m /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et.x8601:15
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fnTc^spNki get01:15
fnTc^spNkSys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg - I am missing essential files - verify your installation?01:15
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Xcaliburanyone?01:15
skavengeXcalibur: sudo -i01:15
SanneXcalibur: you might want to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo01:16
crimsunCharims: pong01:16
Charimshi crimsun01:16
jott_fnTc^spNk: have you tried "aoss /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et" ?01:16
Charimscrimsunmy comp in the other room is on and botted with the live cd01:16
Charimsbooted*01:16
fnTc^spNkjott_: no01:16
fnTc^spNkecho "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss01:16
fnTc^spNkworks as being root01:16
fnTc^spNk;o01:16
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Martijn81Xcalibur: why would you wanna do that?01:17
skavenge.. you didnt use sudo before?01:17
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fnTc^spNkskavenge: i did01:17
fnTc^spNkbut now i used sudo -i01:18
skavengewierd, well thats basically what i do to fix mine heh01:18
fnTc^spNkSys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem01:18
fnTc^spNkomg01:18
fnTc^spNknot that again01:18
Xcaliburok, I have to be graphically logged in as root, this is to install crossover pro01:19
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NosscireCould someone please explain to me how to "split" files using tar's? I have a file (a tar.bz2 to be exact) that I must fit on USB stick. The file is almost 500mb, but I only have 400mb on the USB stick.01:19
skavengeXcalibur: i seriously doubt you have to be graphically logged in as root to install it01:19
SanneXcalibur: the link I gave you explains how to enable the root account, as far as I understand.01:20
skavengeXcalibur: this is coming straight out of thier howto?01:20
Xcaliburok01:20
Xcaliburyeah01:20
Charimscrimsun:my comp in the other room is on and booted with the live cd01:20
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Charims!KDE01:21
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE01:21
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crimsunCharims: ok, now you need to chroot into your 6.06.1 install01:22
Xcaliburyo01:22
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XcaliburI can't log in as root01:22
Charimscrimsun: how do i do that?01:22
Nosscirecome on, someone has got to know... I cant believe that it's very difficoult in realaty?01:22
Xcaliburit said no root logins01:22
crimsun!root > Xcalibur01:22
Charimscrimsun: btw, i don't have net access from the livecd..., ok01:22
crimsunCharims: which partition is your 6.06.1 install?01:23
crimsunCharims: you don't?01:23
Charimscrimsun: no, and i will either have to compile ndiswrapper, or get my etherent to work, etherenet would be asier01:23
skavengendiswrapper is on the cd01:23
Charimseasier*01:23
crimsunndiswrapper-utils is included, yes01:23
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Charimscrimsun: do i need net access there, it would be easier anyways so i can talk with u there01:24
crimsunyes, it's much easier if you have it01:24
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Charimscrimsun: ok, i will go compile ndiswrapper, take my usb stick from here after i'm done, so i will be disconnected for a bit...01:25
crimsunyou don't need to compile ndiswrapper. It's already on the live cd.01:25
Charimscrimsun: ok, well, i need to set it up then...01:25
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Xcaliburok01:25
XcaliburI used kdesu01:25
Xcaliburit worked01:25
skavengeexactly ..01:26
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Charimscrimsun: installing ndiswrapper01:27
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wordOk..so i have a problem where when i leave my computer on for about 2 days...things start getting funky memory fills up etc. lots of seek errors (87% sure not an hd error) then when i restart Xgl doesn't start up..I got the output from dmesg after having it on for a couple days - http://pastebin.ca/156686 and after it fails to start up - http://pastebin.ca/156688 I just now realized on this occurance of the problem..that by doing /etc/init.d/kdm01:28
wordhink this is kdm's fault or something but this never happened with X...any ideas?01:28
Xcaliburyo01:28
Xcaliburanyone here know where crossover pro installs windows apps?01:28
Charimscrimsun: hey,  adept won't install the package, what command do i use to install a .deb file? is is sudo sh ?01:30
Charimsit*01:30
crimsunsudo dpkg -i foo.deb01:30
Sannenight all01:31
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Charimscrimsun: replace foo with the name right?01:31
Charimscrimsun: hee hee, never seen that usage before01:31
kutanSo01:31
kutanFolks01:31
Larynxhow do you read a .txt in a terminal?01:32
skavengenano01:32
kutanBeat me to it D:01:32
jexsiemore01:32
Larynx:/01:33
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kutanSo.. I've worn out frozen-bubble and supertux01:36
kutanAny other good games?01:36
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Charimscrimsun: moving usb ma111 wireless stick to other comp, bye bye01:37
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skavengechromium, abuse for dinky games, enemy territory or tremulous for FPS, freecraft (i think) for a warcraft clone, etc etc01:38
misieq!metabar!metabar01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about metabar!metabar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:39
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misieq!metabar01:39
ubotumetabar: Context sensitive sidebar plugin for Konqueror. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 372 kB01:39
atomicoi some one knows to help to comfigurar kaffeine to read dvds01:39
atomicoi some one knows to help to comfig kaffeine to read dvds01:40
Tokeiitogood night01:40
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atomicoi some one knows to help to comfig kaffeine to read dvds01:40
misieq!dvd01:41
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:41
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skavengeatomic: its on the restricted formats oage under 'playing encrypted dvds' as well01:41
Charims89crimsun: sorry, had to go back to the other comp, ndiswrapper recognizes my hardware, but the wireless assistant doesn't01:41
Charims89crimsun: so yeah, it worked on my install of kubuntu, but apparently the liveCD doesn't like me, maybe we can go through my ethernet?01:42
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crimsunCharims89: whichever works for you.01:43
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Charims89crimsun: i'm not sure how to get the ethernet to work though.. not even sure of my hardware with it...01:44
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crimsunCharims89: look at whether it's detected: ``ifconfig -a''01:47
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Mike|hi01:52
Mike|anybody home?01:52
danex_Hello01:52
Mike|i had some trouble getting kubuntu going under vmware last night. Is there a known problem or did I just have bad luck?01:52
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Mike|things kept wanting to not load. I'd launch them, the cursor bounced around for a bit and then it would die. Ubiquity did it 4 times01:54
danex_Sorry, I am too new to linux01:54
Mike|then i installed vmware tools and somehow that broke networking01:54
Mike|ok01:54
Mike|slickest OS installer i've ever seen, at least when it finally worked01:55
danex_My laptop will only boot linux when on the docking station01:55
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kutanI have a problem!01:56
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danex_Otherwise it hangs on mounting file system01:56
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kutanAlright the problem is the fact that on windows I was able to play world of warcraft with no lag whatsoever, but when I play a really low detail game like x-moto on linux, it's as slow as oblivion would be.01:57
kutanWhat's up with that?01:57
kutanThe same thing happens with chromium01:58
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kutanAnyone have a solution?01:58
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Mike|have you checked for an updated graphics driver? 3d support might not be enabled01:59
kutanI have01:59
Mike|i had a problem like that on suse once01:59
kutanI tried installing it too01:59
kutanBut it gives me an error01:59
andi_Now I'm in pico and want to save and there stands ^O=Save but h I can't write ^O so whats to do ?02:02
skavengetry ctrl+o02:02
andi_it works02:03
andi_thx02:03
skavengenp02:03
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Charimscrimsun: sorry got disconnected02:03
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Charimscrimsun: ethernet would be best to prevent loss of signal, like i jsut got, this usb stick gets less reliable as time goes along02:04
crimsun19:47 < crimsun> Charims89: look at whether it's detected: ``ifconfig -a''02:04
Charimscrimsun: it is02:04
Charimscrimsun: you need specs?02:05
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kutanHmmmm02:05
kutan!nopaste02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:06
kutanWhat is that again?02:06
Charimsccrimsun: Nvidia corp. Mcp2a ethernet controller02:06
Charimsthats according to Kinfo02:07
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kutanhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/1bgxUU40.html02:07
kutanThat's the error I get when I try to install the update for my NVIDIA card02:08
Charimscrimsun: are you there?02:08
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crimsunCharims: yes, but please don't expect me to respond within 2 seconds. I'm on the phone.02:08
Mike|kutan, you probably need to install the developer package. build-essential02:08
Charimscrimsun: oops, sorry, i jsut posted a lot of things...02:09
Mike|i spent 2 hours last night figuring that out myself ^_^02:09
kutanlol02:09
kutanAlright I just installed it... time to try again02:09
Mike|might need the kernel headers too02:10
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kutanbrb02:11
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Charimscrimsun: gonna try wireless again, brb02:12
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drizhey guys i am trying to get this tar.gz file to install and such but i am stuck i just did ./configure i think it worked but I don't know whats nxt02:14
driznext*02:14
Mike|make02:14
Mike|make install02:14
Mike|in that order02:14
drizsudo make install or make install <pakage name>02:14
Mike|cd to that directory and just type sudo make install02:15
drizmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.02:15
drizi am in the directory02:15
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kutanOkay so I don't have that error anymore02:16
Mike|...02:16
kutanI have a new one02:16
Mike|driz, you have gcc installed? or the build-essential package?02:16
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drizbuild-essential package02:17
GameCathi, can someone tell me how to get kuickshow?02:17
Mike|try 'sudo make' first02:17
drizok02:17
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Mike|then sudo make install02:17
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Mike|sometimes you can do one, sometimes you need both. i'm not sure what the difference is02:17
GameCatMike|: you shouldn't need to be root until the install02:18
kutanhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/55JwMX86.html02:18
kutanThat's the new error I get from trying to install the new drivers02:18
Mike|ok. that's just how i've always done it02:18
Mike|kutan, now you need the kernel headers02:18
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Mike|do a uname -r to see which kernel you've got, then look for the headers for that in adept02:19
kutan2.6.15-26-38602:19
kutanWhat would I look for? >_>02:19
Mike|search for header in adept and you should see that listed somewhere02:20
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kutanah okay02:20
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drizMike| for some reason it wont work02:20
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Charimscrimsun: nope, won't accept my usb stick02:20
Mike|well... i have no idea then02:20
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drizoh1111111111102:21
crimsunCharims: weren't you going to use your wired connection?02:21
crimsunDid you paste the output somewhere?02:21
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Charimscrimsun: no, i can't paste the output, no conn. and i want to use the wired conn., but it isn't working either.. :(02:22
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kutanMike| "linux-image-2.6.15-26-386"?02:22
Charimscrimsun: both are detected under ifconfig02:22
redim having a problem installing flash thru the konsoe02:22
kutanCause it already says that's installed02:22
drizerror: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! what does this mean02:22
redkonsole02:22
driz?02:22
Mike|no...... i'm pretty sure it says headers in the package name02:22
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Mike|i did it last night. i'm pretty sure i remember it having the word headers in the name02:23
andi_I tried to play a mp3 with amorak but it didn't worked :( when ich klicked on play hey ended !!02:23
Mike|linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 <-- similar to this02:23
kutanMike| "linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386"?02:24
kutanoh02:24
kutanyeah02:24
kutanheh02:24
Mike|yeah, that looks right02:24
kutanOkay I'll download that02:24
GameCatdriz: what configure line are you using?02:24
drizwhat do you mean?02:24
mad_manusing xchat can the quit and joined of users be turned off in the Discussion Area ? can't seem to find in preferences for control02:24
kutantime to restart and try again02:25
GameCatdriz: you are trying to compile something to get that error yes? what command did you use to start the configure?02:25
driz./configure02:25
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GameCatdriz: try "./configure --prefix=/usr --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/"02:25
drizGameCat: as is02:26
GameCatwithout the " yeah02:26
redhow do i install flash version 702:26
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crimsunCharims: so bring the wired interface up (presuming it's connected via cat 5e or whatnot)02:27
rolandohi02:27
rolandohow can i make kpersonalizer not to start everytime i start my computer?02:27
drizGameCat: ya ok so then so i understand this, Whats the difference?02:27
Mike|red: extract the archive somewhere (assuming it comes as a tar.gz), cd to the directory in a terminal02:27
rolandoi tried removing it but it wants to remove also kdebase02:27
Mike|red: sudo ./configure02:27
Mike|make02:27
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Mike|make install02:27
redok02:27
Mike|sorry. sudo make and sudo make install02:28
Charimscrimsun: i don't know where to go to bring it up02:28
GameCatdriz: it is a kde app so it needs qt3, and the libs are in a non-standard place on ubuntu/debian, and the prefix tells it where the rest of kde is02:28
rolandoso no ideas with kpersonalizer?02:29
GameCatdriz: or do you want the long version? :)02:29
redi think im typing something in wrong, i extracted it to a folder on the desktop, and still cant get the command right in the konsole02:29
Mike|rolando, you've checked ~/.kde/autostart to see if it's got an icon there?02:30
crimsunCharims: KDE provides a graphical utility, or you can use the ifup command in Konsole02:30
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nagyvhow can I switch off the mouse wheel to change windows if I am near the sides of the desktop?02:30
Charimscrimsun: ill check again for the graphical util.02:30
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Mike|red: you've changed to that directory?02:31
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redi got to the home directory but i need to get to the desktop and the folder is there02:31
Mike|what's the name of the folder02:31
Mike|?02:31
redflash02:32
drizGameCat i think i see the problem: configure: WARNING: libjpeg not found. disable JPEG support.02:32
Mike|cd ~/Desktop/flash02:32
Mike|in konsole02:32
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Mike|or console02:32
Mike|whatever you're using02:32
GameCatdriz: what are you compiling?02:32
redi didnt put the little wavy thing in02:32
drizkio_psp-0.1.102:32
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Mike|~ = /home/yourusername =)02:32
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redthat worked for the directory02:33
Mike|try the commands again02:33
rolando_Mike|: how did you solve that problem?02:34
Mike|what problem?02:34
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rolando_getting kpersonalizer everytime you log in02:34
rolando_in autostart this is all i have02:34
rolando_~/.kde/Autostart/.directory02:34
Mike|i haven't had the problem02:34
rolando_you have 3.5.4?02:34
Mike|not really no02:35
Mike|but that's how kde usually autostarts something02:35
GameCatdriz: that just compiled here - you must be missing some dev libs02:35
notechis there a ~/.kde/apps or something with kpersonalizer in it?02:35
drizoh shocks02:35
Mike|i don't actually have kubuntu at all at the moment. I had problems making it play nice in vmware last night02:36
Mike|gonna try again tonight02:36
nagyvis there a script or setup option that switches off the touchpad if a usb mouse is plugged in, and switches it on if necessary?02:36
GameCatdriz: if you are still getting the qt error it means you need to install the qt3 dev files02:37
rolando_i see02:38
rolando_this is the problem and some workaround02:38
rolando_http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/15137/KDE-wizard-after-every-reboot-why.html02:38
rolando_thanx02:38
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drizGameCat02:38
GameCatdriz: yes?02:38
Mike|oh... i thought kpersonalizer was the name of some app02:39
drizI don't have a registered name sorry02:39
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GameCatdriz:  what do you get if you do "dpkg --list libqt3*"02:40
drizGameCat: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold02:40
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Mike|so anyone know of a conflict between kubuntu, vmware and vmware tools? I had issues last night....02:40
GameCatlloks for libqt3-mt and libqt3-mt-dev02:40
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drizGameCat and it doesnt seem to have none of them but one file installed02:41
nagyvis there a script or setup option that switches off the touchpad if a usb mouse is plugged in, and switches it on if necessary?02:41
driz!paste02:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:41
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GameCatdriz: okay, do "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-headers libqt3-compat-headers" all on one line02:42
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charims88crimsun: I'm back again, no luck...02:42
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crimsuncharims88: weren't you going to use the wired interface?02:43
charims88crimsun: yes02:43
crimsuncharims88: so did you ifup the iface?02:44
soulrideris anyone here using azureus?02:44
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charims88crimsun: how do i use ifup?02:44
GameCatdriz: once they are installed, you just need one more  - "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev"02:45
drizGameCat how come this doesnt come with KDE02:45
crimsuncharims88: ifup iface02:45
GameCatdriz: it does, just not with ubuntu02:45
drizwow that suck02:46
GameCatdriz: all distro's make decisions - ubuntu decided not to use space in the default install for the compiling support02:46
dr_willissoulrider,  i have used it.. but i perfer ktorrent or even utorrent + wine02:46
drizoh ok02:46
soulriderthe thing is02:46
GameCatdriz: that kind of decision is why it all fits on one cd :)02:46
soulriderio installed it02:46
soulriderand when i leav eit on overnight and come int he morning02:46
drizoh ok02:46
soulridermy KDE is all lcoked up02:46
soulrideri gotta restart xserver02:46
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charims88crimsun: it said "ignoring unkown interface iface=iface."02:46
drizlol not the five CD install from some of the other Distros02:47
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi!real media02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about real media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:47
Mike|be nice if they made a prominent note of that when it installs.... "if you need to compile programs from source, you will need to do the following....."02:47
Mike|something like that02:47
soulriderand i dont know if its a problem of it using too much mem02:47
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi!rm player02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rm player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:47
soulrideror what02:47
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiHmmmmmm02:47
Mike|i spent 2 hours last trying to figure out where gcc was02:47
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiwe got anything to play real media files?02:47
soulrider!w32codecs02:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:47
soulriderthere02:48
Mike|well, figuring it out, installing it, figuring out i need4ed the headers too, installing that, etc etc02:48
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiUmmmmmm02:48
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi:/02:48
charims88crimsun: i just now entered ifup eth0, it said "interface eth0 already configured"02:48
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKithis crap is to dam generic....02:48
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Martijn81crap?02:48
CaBlGuYHmmmmm  must b an echo in here..02:48
soulriderits not generic02:49
soulriderits awesome02:49
charims88crimsun: i just used ifdown first, and now ifup, it is disovering dhcp02:49
soulriderjust read hte wiki02:49
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soulridertheres a lot of help there02:49
CaBlGuYRiiiiiiiight...    :/02:50
CaBlGuY    thanks for nothin..02:50
CaBlGuYAGIAN02:50
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charims88crimsun: it reports: no DHCPOFFERS recieved, no working leases in persistent database - sleeping.02:50
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Larynxlo?02:52
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jexsieHii....02:52
Larynxi have a question02:52
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jexsieCan I help  me ???02:53
Larynxque?02:53
jexsieSpanish ??02:53
Larynxno02:53
jexsieHolas...02:53
Martijn81nope, just ask  Larynx02:53
kutanAlright someone in here just helped me install the new drivers for my NVIDIA card02:53
kutanand it was successful02:53
kutanSort of...02:54
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Larynxwhat is dapper and warty and all that?02:54
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jexsieAlguien podria ayudarme con un problema de inicio de sesion en mi kubunu??02:54
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKifor future reference...02:54
kutanThe installation finished but when I rebooted it completely stops when it's on the loading screen.02:54
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKihttps://player.helixcommunity.org/02:54
Martijn81es! > jexsie02:54
DaSkreechLarynx: Releases of the Distro?02:54
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiyour fukn welcome.. :|02:54
jexsieMartijn81, es ??02:54
LarynxDaSkreech: how do you know wich one u have?02:54
Martijn81!es > jexsie02:55
Martijn81sry02:55
DaSkreechLarynx: lsb_release -a or cat/etc/issue02:55
DaSkreechcat /etc/issue02:55
Larynxthnx02:55
kutanAnyone? =\02:55
GameCatkutan: which card do you have?02:56
DaSkreechWhich Loading screen?02:56
charimscrimsun: apparently its not likeing my DHCP invites from my router, i did some router configs to see if that would fix it, becuase normally this mac address is reserved for my windows install, which has a different name...02:56
kutanNVIDIA Fx somethin or other02:56
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kutanRight now I'm using the live DVD I have for kubuntu to use Konversation02:57
GameCatkutan: is it on the list here? http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html02:57
Kr4t05Okay, why are the us.archieve.ubuntu.com repos hanging?02:58
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Mike|charims, what is you're trying to do exactly? get an IP address assigned?02:58
kutanNope, it's not on there02:58
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charims88crimsun: trying to connect to my network using ifup with a livecd02:58
Mike|or crimsun... whoever's having the problem02:59
charims88crimsun: both ndiswrapper and ifup arn't working...02:59
GameCatkutan: is it hanging when it starts X?02:59
kutanyep02:59
kutanI've restarted multiple times02:59
Martijn81kutan: do you have xgl installed maybe?02:59
kutan...xgl?02:59
Martijn81that's probably would be a no then03:00
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Mike|heh03:00
kutanUnless it's already there, no.03:00
Martijn81which is good03:00
Martijn81ok03:00
GameCatkutan: you might want to try booting into text only mode, then installing the legacy nvidia drivers anyway - i use them with a geforce4 here - that's not on the list either.."sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy"03:00
kutanAlright03:01
kutanhold on, gonna write that down =X03:01
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derekhello03:02
derekcan somebody explain to me how to install xgl03:02
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kutanAlright I'll be back with an update :D03:03
GameCatdo you know how to get to text mode? use recovery mode boot03:03
charims88what is the KDE GUI program for wired network configurating?03:03
CheeseBurgerManubotu: tell derek about xgl03:03
kutanYeah I know :P03:03
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charims88!xgl03:03
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:03
GameCatjust checking :)03:03
GameCatthen just startx after the install, no need to reboot to test03:03
Kr4t05Mkay...03:04
Kr4t05On the same tangent, is there any way to launch Xorg in a separate TTY?03:04
charims88what is the KDE GUI program for wired network configurating?03:04
GameCatas in run 2 x sessions on one machine?03:04
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GameCatKr4t05: what do you mean - run 2 X sessions?03:06
derekcan an actual person explain how to install xgl? lol03:06
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DaSkreechIs there someway to get Kopete to do Spellchecking?03:06
DaSkreech!xgl03:06
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:06
Kr4t05GameCat: Something like that. I run XGL in TTY7.03:06
DaSkreechTry those derek03:06
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GameCatKr4t05: doesn't the switch user stuff in the K menu work with xgl then?03:07
Kr4t05GameCat: Maybe?03:08
GameCatthat spawns a new X session03:08
charims88crimsun: it seems i am unable to connect to the net :(03:08
GameCatKr4t05: k > switch user > start new session03:08
JucatoI think it does, but you have to use a different user I think03:08
GameCatshould get you a new X session and a kde login screen03:08
charims88crimsun: my computer is not getting an DHCPINVITE03:08
GameCatoh yeah, can't really do it as the same user03:09
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Mike|charims88, you just need an IP address?03:09
charims88Mike| can i configure a static one since DHCP isn't working?03:10
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Mike|yes03:10
Larynxcan anyone find this package --> build-essential fakeroot gcc3.403:10
Mike|sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.whatever03:10
andi_Now I want to ad a new link for adept ! Is it all right if i only make ad and enable oder must i write universe and multiverse or only universe or multiverse or .... ?03:10
Mike|or however the ip addresses go on your network03:10
JucatoLarynx: those are 3 packages03:10
Larynxthat explains03:11
Larynxthnx03:11
andi_+add03:11
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Mike|...03:11
charims88kk, ty03:11
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Mike|oh, there you are. i saw your clone error out and panicked for a second03:12
Jucatolol03:12
derek!ati03:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:12
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LeeJunFanCan konversation do split window? So I can see what's going on in 2 channels w/o tab flipping?03:13
charimshaha its fine03:13
WarboHas anyone tried compiling/installing MusicMan? I am getting a problem that QT headers/libraries cannot be found ("checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"). I have even installed every package containing "qt" and "dev", but no luck03:13
Larynxcant find gcc3.4 :<03:13
JucatoLeeJunFan: AFAIK, no03:13
charimsi don't know what happened to crimsun tho03:13
Warbo!info gcc-3.403:13
ubotugcc-3.4: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.6-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 482 kB, installed size 4532 kB03:13
WarboThere it is03:13
charimsmaybe he had to do sumthing03:13
LeeJunFanJucato: know of any that can?03:13
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JucatoLarynx: gcc-3.4 not gcc3.403:14
LarynxJucato: thanx03:14
JucatoLarynx: any reason you would need that particular version? the latest is gcc-4.003:14
charimsMike| do i still have to ifdown after that and ifup again?03:14
charimsmike| becuase both ways it didn't work03:14
LarynxJucato: no im just following the instructions on the support site03:14
JucatoLeeJunFan: unfortunately, no...03:14
Jucatoaah03:14
Mike|um...03:14
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Mike|shut it down first03:15
Mike|then give it the address03:15
Mike|and that'll turn it back on03:15
JucatoLeeJunFan: you might want to give XChat a try03:15
Mike|i guess ifdown will do that. i've never used it. i use ifconfig eth0 down to shut mine down03:15
LeeJunFanYah, I'll check that - I used to use that, but don't remember.03:15
JucatoLeeJunFan: or you could use Kopete for IRC, then just detach the tabs so you will have separate  windows per room...03:15
LarynxJucato: will it make any big difference if i dl the latest version?03:16
JucatoLarynx: I'm not sure, but build-essential will download gcc-4.0 and that will be used as the default03:16
joe__ hi, I'd like to set up shortcut keys in kde to be like emacs. Where should I look?03:16
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JucatoLarynx: if the thing you are trying to compile needs gcc-3.4 specifically, you would need to do some extra steps03:17
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charimsMike| well, looking at my netgear rount page, i see it trying to connect as 192.168.0.5 ..., under the name HOST1 , but linux doesnt like it03:17
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GameCatcharims: sorry to butt in - try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" rather than reboot03:17
Jucatojoe__: you could start in System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts03:17
Mike|charims: what is the IP of the machine you're using to get in here?03:17
joe__Jucato: thanks so much03:17
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LarynxJucato: ok03:18
ramoni need to use alsaconf, how do i install that ? :<03:18
ramon!alsaconf03:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alsaconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:19
Mike|hrm...... i've managed to break one of my virtual machines......03:19
ramon!alsa03:19
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems03:19
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obf213hey i keep getting an error message everytime i log on03:19
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Jucatowhat error message?03:19
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KutanWell03:20
KutanIt worked03:20
obf213saying that that some composite extenstion not found03:20
dr_willisJucato,  ya ruined it! :)03:20
dr_willislol.03:20
Jucatowow! dr_willis is here! :-D03:20
KutanIt stopped hangin up at the loading screen03:20
Jucatosorry ehehe03:20
obf213You must use XOrg  6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.03:20
obf213Additionally, you need to add a new section to your X config file:03:20
obf213Section "Extensions"03:20
obf213Option "Composite" "Enable"03:20
obf213EndSection03:20
dr_willisdayshift this week.. going to sleep soon.03:20
GameCatKutan: excellent03:20
Kutannow it's hanging up at the blank screen right before I get to the login screen. -_-03:20
obf213i get that message03:20
obf213and then i get another one too that says composite manager crahsed twice and is disabled03:20
GameCatKutan: or not :/03:20
obf213like verytime i log on03:20
dr_willisdont enable the composite extension perhaps?03:20
Jucatoobf213: you're trying to use window transparencies and shadows, but don't have composite enabled03:21
charimsMike| the ip of this comp shouldn't matter, its a separate laptop03:21
obf213o i though i disabled that03:21
ramonwhat package should i install if i want to use alsaconf ?03:21
Jucatoobf213: go to System Settings > Desktop > Window Behavior > Translucency tab > disable Use transluceny/shadows03:21
Mike|charims, i was fishing for your subnet address. the one that won't connect might be trying to connect under the wrong one03:21
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Jucatodr_willis: eheheh! sorry for ruining an almost perfect moment... :-D03:22
Mike|give it an IP one number higher than the IP of whatever you're using now03:22
obf213jucato thanks03:22
Mike|on the last octet03:22
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charimsMike| the ip of this comp is 192.168.0.303:23
Jucatoooh router....03:23
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KutanSo, anyone have a solution?03:23
charimsGamecat: Tried that, did the same thing as Ifdown followed by Ifup03:24
Larynxffs03:24
Mike|well, that's not it03:24
GameCatcharims: what is in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0?03:24
JucatoKutan: what did you do before this started happening?03:24
Larynxis module-assistant something i have to dl?03:24
KutanI installed the new NVIDIA drivers for my video card03:25
Jucatooh...03:25
JucatoKutan: can you please check if you have linux-restricted-modules-* installed and if it's the same version as the linux-image-* version you are using?03:25
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KutanHow can I find that out? =\03:26
jon_hello03:26
charimsGameCat  for eth0 it says "auto eth0" next line "iface eth0 inet dhcp"03:26
jon_im wondering what a really good bittorrent client would be03:26
dr_willisktorrent is ok. or i use wine and utorrent.exe :)03:26
GameCatcharims: hang on, I'll upload one...03:26
Larynxany one?03:27
JucatoKTorrent works for me.03:27
KutanJust if you don't know, I'm using the live DVD right now so I'd have to reboot to check.03:27
JucatoKutan: hold on...03:27
Kutank03:28
jon_i upgraded to dapper and im not sure if its gnome or KDE?03:28
GameCatcharims: http://wastedtimes.net/stuff/eth0.txt03:28
JucatoKutan: do you know your way around the command line?03:28
KutanNot really...03:28
Jucatooh..03:28
KutanA little bit03:28
GameCatcharims: adjust IPs to suit, then restart networking03:28
JucatoKutan: well, I have to give you some instructions first before you reboot03:28
KutanAlright03:28
GameCatcharims: gateway is the router IP03:28
charimsGamecat: kk brb, time 2 eat03:28
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JucatoKutan: when you reach the part where everything seems "stuck" at the bootsplash (Kubuntu logo on plain black background), press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to log into a command line session03:29
KutanIt doesn't even get there03:30
KutanOh wait03:30
Kutanyou mean where it tells me what it's loading and stuff?03:30
JucatoKutan: yes03:30
KutanOkay03:30
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Jucatook, once you log into a command line, type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit your sources.list03:31
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JucatoKutan: then look for the line with "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main" and add "restricted" after main03:32
JucatoKutan: so that it would be "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted"03:33
charimsgamecat: scarfed down my food, im bak03:33
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Kutanokay03:33
JucatoKutan: after that, press Ctrl+O and Enter to overwrite/save, then Ctrl+X to exit nano03:33
Kutanthen sudo reboot03:33
Kutan?03:33
JucatoKutan: not yet :-D03:33
Kutanoh03:33
JucatoKutan: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"03:34
Jucatohopefully linux-restricted-modules will be upgraded, if you have it installed.03:34
Kutank03:34
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Jucatoif nothing seems to be upgraded, you can try to manually install it using "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"03:35
Kutanalright I'm tryin to write this all down neatly cause I PHAIL at neat writing03:36
jott_are there plans for putting vtk 5 in the repositories (either edgy or dapper) ? (its already in debian unstable)03:36
JucatoKutan: hehehe so do I. just make sure you understand what you right. that's the most important thing right now :-D03:37
charimsgamecat: nothing :(03:37
Mike|without a doubt, this is the STUPIDEST thing i've ever heard. Windows Vista is going to block any attempt to change or disable the sound it plays when you log into it03:37
charimshehe03:38
Mike|Whiskey Tango Foxtrot03:38
Jucatolol03:38
JucatoI'm sure there will be some "hack" around that...03:38
Mike|now see, this RIGHT HERE is why I only load windows when I play video games03:38
jott_its like those mobile phone that supposed to make a sound when taking a picture to warn everybody in the vicinity ;)03:38
GameCatcharims: do you have a firewall running?03:39
charimsummm, no, not a hardware one, and none that i know of on the livecd03:39
DaSkreechMike|: On what basis?03:40
Mike|eh?03:40
KutanAlright brb gonna try that jucato, thanks for the help. :D03:40
JucatoKutan: good luck!!03:40
Kutanthanks03:40
charimsGamecat :ummm, no, not a hardware one, and none that i know of on the livecd03:41
Mike|about windows? I mean its habit of disallowing you to do things when it makes absolutely no sense. ie., lack of configurability03:41
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GameCatcharims: does ifconfig eth0 show the IP etc you put in the interfaces file?03:41
Jucato... or at least without paying for some 3rd party software, like WIndowsBlinds...03:42
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Mike|i know those guys actually. they make good stuff03:42
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DBOMike|, no no, it doesnt make sense for YOU...  for a corporation however...  you see they dont pander to the individual (and frankly, I dont see why they would) but linux does.  Its just a matter of goals...03:42
Mike|stardock03:42
dustinsoo im a new user....YAY03:42
charimsGamecat: yes03:42
__mikemthey make good stuff? if by good you mean, prone to crashing all the time, then yes they have the best products on the market03:42
GameCatcharims: can you ping the router?03:42
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charimsgamecat what do you mean?03:43
Jucato__mikem: I think he was referring to the guys who make WindowsBlinds03:43
__mikemI know, I was refering to them also03:43
GameCatcharims: "ping 192.168.0.1" or whatever the router IP is03:43
GameCatcharims: what happens?03:44
Jucatoehehe03:44
JucatoI never knew WindowsBlinds crashed a lot03:44
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dr_willisJucato,  i was not impressed by windowblinds much. :P03:46
dr_willisnow that game they sold.. glacatic civilizations - was cool!@03:46
charimsGamecat: it sas yhay from 192.168.0.5 icmp_seq=#  destination host unreachable03:46
Mike|i haven't used windowblinds myself. don't knwo fi it crashes or not03:46
Mike|i play galactic civ II all the time though03:46
Mike|chat with the developers in their chat room03:46
raptros-v76ok03:47
dr_williswas going to get Gal Civ II - then realized how rarely i played the first03:47
Mike|gal civ ii is awesome03:47
Mike|addictive as hell03:47
Mike|one of those where you've been playing a while, look up and notice you have to get up for work in 5 minutes03:48
Jucatodr_willis: I have only used the trial version. But I don't know if there are free alternatives to theme Windows...03:48
Mike|anyway, no matter who MS is catering to, disabling the ability to customize something as stupid as the login sound is just DUMB03:48
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jott_Jucato: patch uxtheme.dll or what it was ;)03:49
Jucatooh...03:49
charimsif i could get ndiswrapper to log me in, then this would work... but im in livecd anyways, and im about to jsut reinstall kubuntu, then fix my sound problem...03:49
Jucatoyeah I think I did that to get clearlooks on XP03:49
Mike|Uncle Bill knows better, so we're not going to let you do that. Here, have a free adware program :D03:49
GameCatcharims: the cable is plugged in, isn't it :)03:49
jott_hehe luna makes me wanna puke all the time.. :p03:50
dr_willisJucato,  im the kind of guy that sets the thing to classic mode to get more speed! :P03:50
Mike|me too03:50
CheeseBurgerManMike|: Can't you do that? I know you could in 200003:50
charimsGamecat: definitely, and there is a light from the port03:50
JucatoMike|:  c'mon, they've disabled the user's ability to even think! Why would you be surprised that they disable customizations? :-D03:50
Mike|heh03:50
charimsso, with ethernet, im screwed, won't connect, with my usb stick, im screwed. becuase ndiswrapper recognizes the hardware, but the wireless assistant doesnt03:50
charimsit worked like a charm on the installed system...03:51
GameCatcharims: very odd03:51
Mike|I guarantee you the first thing people are going to do is try to delete that sound, just because it tells them they can't disable it03:51
Mike|the .wav03:51
charimshee hee03:51
Mike|i would03:52
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Mike|when i tell my computer to do something, i expect it to do it03:52
jott_hehe then hits the windows file protection and restores it at once ;)03:52
charimscrimsun: are you there, i'm jsut about to reinstall kubuntu03:52
CheeseBurgerManDamn, you're right. Guess you'd have to change the C:\Windows\media\Windows Logoff Sound.wav :|03:52
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dr_willisjott_,  ive even seen it restore virus infected files! :P03:53
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Jucatobut you'll be swamped by dialog boxes asking if you really want to delete/change that file...03:53
JucatoKutan: how did  it go?03:53
Mike|this is why i'm ranting about it, FYI: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/31/234720103:53
KutanIt was already fully updated -_-03:53
Jucatostill have the same problem?03:53
Kutanand it already had the security extension03:53
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KutanYeah, nothing changed at all. o_o03:54
JucatoKutan: not security, "restricted"03:54
GameCatI'm off, night all03:54
Kutanyeah that's what I meant03:54
CheeseBurgerManMike|: Where in the world did MS get that idea? :o03:54
Jucatohm....03:54
JucatoKutan: btw, how did you install the NVIDIA driver?03:54
Mike|from the same person who thought up Clippy I'd imagine03:54
JucatoKutan: did you check if linux-restricted-modules and linux-image matched?03:54
CheeseBurgerManGuess so.03:54
KutanYeah03:55
Jucatook... I'm stumped...03:55
Mike|that would be my fault possibly. he was trying to install it and I told him how to get gcc installed03:55
JucatoHow did you install the drivers anyway?03:55
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KutanI installed it through the console "sudo sh (name of script)"03:55
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JucatoKutan: aaah03:56
Jucatohm....03:56
Jucatohold on, did you download the latest NVIDIA driver from their site?03:56
KutanYeah03:56
Jucatoerr... I think that driver doesn't work with Dapper03:56
Kutan._.;03:57
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Mike|really??03:57
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JucatoMike|: was that for me?03:57
Mike|i was planning to install kubuntu on my new box when it gets here next week =(03:57
Mike|yes03:57
Jucatothe new driver that NVIDIA released last week (was it last week) is for Xorg 7.103:58
CheeseBurgerManMike|: http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=195520&cid=16020964 <--- That's just brutal to the Gnome guys.03:58
Mike|and it's got a bleeding edge vid card, so I'll definitely need the neweest03:58
JucatoDapper only uses 7.003:58
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JucatoKutan: did you download the 1.0-8774 driver?03:58
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Zamboulie!xgl03:58
Kutanuhhh03:58
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:58
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Mike|CheeseBurgerMan, i think he's possible referring to that "spatial navigation" debate a couple years ago03:58
CheeseBurgerManoh.03:59
Kutan>_<03:59
Jucatorawr.. spatial navigation......03:59
Mike|that kind of ticked me off too03:59
KutanI'm confused03:59
charimsarnt we all03:59
Mike|find, do it by default, but at least put an option in there to turn it off without me reaching for the conf file03:59
Mike|fine*03:59
JucatoKutan: I would suggest you just download the NVIDIA driver from the repositories, the "nvidia-glx" package03:59
JucatoKutan: in the command line (Ctrl+Alt+F1 again), type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" then after it downloaded and installed, "sudo nvidia-xconfig"04:00
Kr4t05!info screenkast04:00
ubotuPackage screenkast does not exist in any distro I know04:00
Kutanalright..04:00
Mike|!ati04:00
JucatoMike|:  spatial navigation in GNOME?04:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:00
Kutanhold on, writing it down04:00
Mike|Jucato, they changed nautilus so that every time you clicked a folder to go deeper into the file system, it popped open a new window04:01
Mike|they called it "spatial navigation", while everyone else just called it annoying04:01
JucatoMike|: yes, spatial navigation. but you don't have to edit the conf files to deactivate that...04:02
Mike|then someone wrote an article BLAMING USERS because the users didn't like it04:02
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crimsuncharims: if it's easier, just reinstall it.04:02
Mike|not now, no. back when they first did it you did04:02
crimsuncharims: I'm very busy atm, sorry.04:02
Mike|doesn' tmatter now. I actually like how it does it now, with the row of tabs04:02
Jucatoyikes... I'm glad I didn't use it back then...04:03
Kutanalright brb gonna try that04:03
JucatoKutan: good luck again!04:03
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flaccidhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212025 <- have they removed the wacom tablet entries in xorg for next release?04:03
Mike|i'm just gonna have all sorts of problems getting any kind of linux running on my new box04:03
Mike|i splurged and bought the most powerful hardware I could get. i know that video card's gonna give me trouble04:04
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jott_those wacom entries are broken anyway ... had to change them to make my wacom tablet work correct ;p04:04
Jucatohehehe04:04
Mike|--> NVIDIA Geforce 7950 GX2 1GB 16X PCI Express04:04
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jott_Mike|: thats the right card to use the nv driver ;P04:05
Mike|?04:06
jott_(non accelerated ;) just kidding04:06
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Mike|as far as i've been able to tell, that's the fastest video card in existence (today)04:06
Mike|sure is priced like it is04:06
jott_its probably sweet04:06
faked_Hey, I'm trying to install Frostwire from a tarball and I extracted it but there's no configure file so I can't run "$ ./configure".... wtf do I do now?04:07
Mike|there's not a .deb package?04:07
charimscrimsun: just got your message, i decided to reinstall, thats understandable, reinstalling now, i will have more hd space this time04:07
Mike|http://frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://mirror1.peercommons.net/frostwire/4.10.9/FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb04:07
faked_I don't know the first thing about using those debian packages >_>04:08
archangel_hey whats the command to configure x?04:08
faked_I DL them but I unno what to do with them04:08
Jucato!frostwire04:08
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:08
faked_I know that04:09
jott_Mike|: is the 7950gx2 even supported by 8774?04:09
faked_it's just that, if using the d04:09
faked_debian package will work, I'd like to know how to use it >_>04:09
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Mike|8774? what is that?04:09
Jucatofaked_: right-click on the .deb, select Kubuntu Package Menu > Install Package04:09
ramonanyone knows how to fix this :(04:10
ramon------- sound initialization -------04:10
ramon/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy04:10
ramonCould not open /dev/dsp04:10
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jott_Mike|: the latest nvidia linux driver version04:10
JucatoMike|: that's the latest NVIDIA driver released by NVIDIA...04:10
Mike|oh04:10
Mike|i have no idea04:10
Mike|if i can't get linux installed, I'll just suffer with windows until it linux catches up to it04:10
flaccidi have no idea why they would put wacom entries in there..04:11
Mike|but this PC is starting to show its age and I want something that wont be obsolete in a year04:11
Jucatoflaccid: trying to support as many hardware combos there are04:11
faked_wow that's really simple, thanks >_>04:11
flaccidJucato: but why load it if your computer doesn't have it04:11
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Jucatoflaccid: did you notice that Kubuntu also installs wireless, bluetooth, etc. even if you don't have it?04:12
charimsIm reinstalling kubuntu, and i told it to resize the partition, it got to 100%, and now its jsut sitting there... uh-oh04:12
flaccidJucato: yes but thats packages, we are talking about xorg.conf04:12
Ashex!floppy04:12
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone04:12
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Jucatoflaccid: coz that's the default? I don't know why recnfiguring xserver-xorg doesn't remove it though04:13
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kutanWell it installed well, but it's hanging up at the boot screen and not the blank screen anymore04:13
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Jucato @_@04:14
flaccidJucato: yeah. it shouldn't be default. why load a driver for hardware that doesn't exist04:14
flaccid:)04:14
Jucatobecause the default settings need to support as many hardware combos possible... :-D04:14
Jucatounless you want xserver-xorg to be reconfigured everytime you try to install/update/etc?04:15
flaccidJucato: so is a default xorg.conf used for every install ie. it doesn't generate one on install from xserver-xorg ?04:15
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flaccidwe all use the same default xorg.conf ?04:15
JucatoI think so. unless you reconfigure xserver-xorg in the Desktop CD before you install04:16
flaccidhmm thats not good04:16
Jucatothe Desktop CD installer merely copies the settings on the CD04:16
charimsgreat, it crashed :(04:16
Jucatothat's why it's fast04:16
kutansooo04:17
kutanThis all friggin started because I wanted games to run faster. -_-04:17
Jucatokutan: I'm stumped, really...04:17
flaccidJucato: dexconf generates it, but when is the question?04:18
Jucatokutan: those instructions usually work04:18
Jucatoflaccid: what question?04:18
kutanI'm tempted to just format and reinstall kubuntu -_-04:18
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flaccidit can't be a default xorg.conf because it has ati and not nvidia in there and settings specific to my hardware04:18
charimsi just tried that, tried to resize my partition, and welah, it froze while resizing, then i had to terminate :(04:19
samyfomy'a un francophone ici?04:19
flaccidquestion is when dexconf generates it04:19
flaccidso these wacom entries are bogus04:19
Jucatoflaccid: it tries to detect the video card when you run the Desktop CD04:19
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flaccidJucato: then wouldn't it do the other hardware as well04:19
Jucatoprobably...04:20
Jucato @_@04:20
Jucatonow I'm confused too. lol04:20
samyfomHello Hello!!!04:21
samyfomWho like Vice City here?04:21
charimswell, good news, windows still starts up, but its running a startup scandisk, is that good or bad?04:21
Mike|I still play it sometimes04:21
flaccidit looks like does the config program and then adds wacom tablet entries. i would call this a bug or bad algorithm04:21
Mike|charims, as long as it does that only once, don't worry about it. if it does it every time.....04:22
skavengeit'll do it by default on a ntfs partition resize, but like Mike| said, it shouldnt do it after04:23
crimsuncharims: that's normal if you shrink your NTFS partition size.04:23
charimsmike| ok, well, i don't think it will run it again, as long as the drive is fixed, but the drive wasn't resized, it got mad, froze, and i had to terminate it :(04:23
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Mike|there you go. Windows usually does a scandisk if it doesn't like how you turned it off04:24
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charimsMike| no, the partitioner in kubuntu froze :(04:25
Mike|:/04:26
Mike|oh....04:26
charimswhile resizing :( but everything seems okay, time to boot live cd04:26
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samyfomahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!04:29
samyfomcomment rendre Konversation en francais??!!04:29
samyfomhow make Konversation in french???04:29
Jucato!fr04:29
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:29
Hawkwindsamyfom: Install the correct language packs for beginners04:30
samyfomokay man!!04:30
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samyfomthanks beaucoup04:30
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Hawkwindsamyfom: Please keep the conversation here in the channel so others can help and learn04:31
Hawkwindsamyfom: sudo apt-get install <package>04:31
Jucatowhoa!04:31
pestilenceso i have a 6.06 cd in my cdrom.  and i ran apt-cdrom add, and ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.  but it only wanted to upgrade like 4 packages.  what gives?04:31
Jucatohi Hawkwind!04:31
samyfomahh!! whats the name of package?04:32
HawkwindJucato: Evening(my time) :)04:32
Jucatohehe04:32
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Hawkwindsamyfom: Whatever package you want to install04:32
HawkwindHobbsee: Good evening(my time) to ya :)04:32
JucatoHobbsee!! god morning! (noon your time)04:32
samyfomi want make Konversation in french04:32
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samyfombecause i'm not good in english04:32
Hawkwindsamyfom: I don't know.  Probably a language setting in kcontrol or something04:33
samyfomok thanks04:33
Jucatosamyfom: you could try asking the guys in the !fr channel04:33
samyfomouf!04:33
Hobbseehey Hawkwind, Jucato04:33
charimstrying to resize partition again04:33
samyfomit doesn't work04:33
JucatoHobbsee: could you explain the init-crack stuff again?04:35
Jucatoor should I ask that over at -devel?04:35
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samyfomi go to french kubuntu channel!!04:35
samyfomgood night!04:35
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Jucatosamyfom: good luck and good night04:36
flaccidanybody have knetstats going on kubuntu ?04:37
ascetikhey are any of you running ubuntu on a laptop... because i am have some strange problems that is specific to laptops04:37
HobbseeJucato: see planet.ubuntu.com - scott's post04:37
JucatoHobbsee: ok thankies!04:37
Jucatobtw, Kopete still not in backports, and au.archive.ubuntu.com totally has no backports...04:38
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charimswow, the partitioner is taking forever to even say it is resizing :(04:38
Jucatocharims: did you remember to unmount the partition first before trying to resize it?04:39
HobbseeJucato: ah, interesting.04:39
charimswell, i don' think it was mounted, i probably should have checked :(04:39
HobbseeJucato: i dotn think the release people care over these few days :P04:39
Jucatoehehe... I understand... to busy with Knot...04:40
HobbseeJucato: and there the ones who will need to figure out what's happened to soyuz, and fix it again04:40
Jucatoah yes.. soyuz...04:40
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kutanJucato04:41
charimsJucato: should i unmount remote share?04:41
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Jucatocharims: only the partition you are trying to modify04:42
kryptorhi all04:42
charimsjucato: kk, it was unmounted04:42
kutanDo you think there's any possible solution to my problem? If not I'm about to reinstall/reformat04:42
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kryptori have searched the whole kubuntu site for install instructions, cannot find04:43
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lcdguyhello all04:45
Jucatokutan: sorry, I'm out of ideas04:45
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Jucatokryptor: maybe if you told us what you were trying to install??04:45
kryptorkubuntu04:46
kryptorthis is the chan isn't it?04:46
Jucatoyes. so you're trying to install Kubuntu?04:46
lcdguyi was wondering if anyone here could help me with a weird issue i am having with my videocard04:46
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kryptoryes, have burnt 4 disks already04:46
kryptornone work04:46
kryptorand i would like to read up on the install process so i answer questions right04:47
Jucatoand by "none work" what do you mean? btw, which installer did you download? Desktop CD or Alternate Install CD?04:47
kryptorall 304:47
kryptoralternat, desktop and live04:47
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kutanAlright I'll be back later, gonna format04:47
JucatoDesktop CD and Live CD are the same04:47
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kryptorok04:48
kutanThanks for the help anyway jucato :P04:48
Jucatokutan: ok.. sorry I couldn't help solve it...04:48
kryptorsame luck with ubuntu04:48
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kutanspeaking of ubuntu04:48
Jucatokryptor: what happens when you try to run the Desktop CD?04:48
kutanWhat's the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?04:48
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lcdguyi think it's just the main desktop it uses gnome vs kde04:49
Agiosubuntu is gnome based, kubuntu is kde based04:49
JucatoUbuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE.04:49
Kr4t05kutan: Kubuntu == KDE; Ubuntu == GNOME04:49
kryptorit gets to opening and then all the lights on the monitor config flash04:49
Jucatobut underneat, they're practically the same04:49
kutanwhich is better for a noob?04:49
archangel_what is the command to configure your display?04:50
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lcdguyi personally prefer kubuntu, but they are equally challaneging04:50
Jucatoit really depends on the "taste" of the person, andhis wants/needs04:50
kutanuhmmm... Gaming?04:51
Jucatoarchangel_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:51
Jucatokutan: neither or both04:51
archangel_thanks again Jucato04:51
kutanlol04:51
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Jucatoit doesn't matter as most games are desktop environment agnostic04:51
kutanWow04:51
kutanI have no idea what that just meant04:52
Jucatolol04:52
kutanbut time to format04:52
kutanSee yas04:52
Jucatoit means that most games04:52
kutan?04:52
lcdguybassicaly it doesn't matter if you run gnome or kde04:52
Jucatodon't choose whether they will run on GNOME or KDE04:52
kutanoh04:52
Jucatoin fact, you can install GNOME programs on KDE and vice versa04:52
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kutan...oh04:52
lcdguyyup04:52
kutanAlright04:52
kutanOKAY LESS INTERRUPTING MORE FORMATTING04:53
kutan:P04:53
lcdguyanyone here know anything about setting up dual head setups on ati graphics cards ?04:53
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leandroe04:54
reddwolf78hello i have a question  i have a bluetooh compatable palmpilot and wounder is there a way to set linux up to link up with it useing the blue tooth04:55
lcdguysorry i don't know anything about bluetooth other than that my cell phone has it04:55
reddwolf78oh ok04:56
reddwolf78how about anyone else04:56
reddwolf78or at leat might be able to point me in the right direction04:56
lcdguywhats the model of palm pilot04:56
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reddwolf78its a tungsten e2 buy palmone04:57
jott_reddwolf78: have you tried kpilot?04:57
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jott_(never used it as i have no palm)04:58
jott_!info kpilot04:58
obf213is wine worth it04:58
ubotukpilot: KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1855 kB, installed size 4308 kB04:58
obf213if i want to run like media applications or is it not worth it04:58
reddwolf78i was able to set kpilot up with the hotsynk feture04:58
jott_obf213: depends on the particular app ;)04:58
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obf213ok its a media player to watch tv on the computer04:59
reddwolf78but i was woundering about the bluetooth compatablity of both linux and my palm04:59
obf213jott my question is it safe04:59
obf213it wont make me more vulnerable or anything right?04:59
jott_obf213: why not use one of the many media palyers for linux?04:59
lcdguylike vlc :D04:59
obf213i have to download gthere media player jot. its called TVU networks04:59
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AgiosI use tvtime here05:00
jott_reddwolf78: don't know .. bluetooth obex works fine here (with my mobile)05:00
reddwolf78is there a site that might give me a list that i can look at with compatable  bluetooth device05:01
lcdguyi have a question in regards to my sound card05:01
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reddwolf78#lad05:01
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rannieexit05:02
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reddwolf78the link i listed is good with sound items05:02
lcdguyeverytime i reboot/restart x it changes to the default settings on the switches section on the mixer. the problem is i need the optical audio output enabled to make the sound work.05:02
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reddwolf78!bluetooth05:03
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup05:03
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archangel_dude my pc's display is so messed up05:04
drizhey guys I need help finding a manual for this motherboard... P4G533-LA05:05
archangel_and no one knows crap on how to fix it05:05
Jucato[ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/05:06
der_steppenwolfhi05:06
Agiosdriz: http://www.elhvb.com/mboards/OEM/HP/05:06
der_steppenwolfcould someone help with a problem about dvd devices?05:06
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archangel_Jucato: how experienced in linux are you?05:07
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AgiosLOL05:08
Agiosarchangel_: very05:08
Jucatome? not so much05:08
jott_Jucato: hey it could happen that questions are asked only once when everybody would seek answers by digging the internet ;p scnr05:08
kubuntu-RobertoHello everyone. i'm new to kubuntu and deb files. I've downloaded webmin 1.290 deb file, and I've installed it. Problem is I can't log in using either root or my user name. any suggestions05:08
Agiosarchangel_: xvidtune and edit xorg.conf05:08
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Agiosit's the hard way but it will work05:09
Zambouliewhats the command to update the kernel?05:09
archangel_Agios: dude is there a way (and if so, would you be willing) for you to look at my pc over the net05:09
archangel_Agios: like the desktop sharing program05:10
Agiossure, msg me the ssh login05:10
archangel_I'm hoping I can trust you05:11
lcdguylol05:11
Agiosyou never know05:11
archangel_lol, I guess I'm screwed anyway05:11
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Agiosencrypt your data05:11
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der_steppenwolfk3b does not recognize my dvd device05:11
Zambouliewhats the command to update the kernel05:11
der_steppenwolfonly my cd writer device05:11
obf213is there a lot of stuff that wine doesnt opne05:12
archangel_how?05:12
der_steppenwolfbut cdrecord the other way around, i don't understand05:12
obf213like the unistaller.exe did05:12
AgiosZamboulie: apt-get install <kernel of your choice>05:12
eljefedelitohello kubuntu-Roberto; no, sorry... check the developer's web site FAQ05:12
Zambouliewhats the newest one05:12
obf213ddnt open for the file i had, then the next one it wont open the .exe file at all05:12
obf213!wine05:12
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:12
digivorecan i save a session in ubuntu and shut down the computer, but next time i logon, restart the last saved session with open applications and stuff...?  is that possible?05:13
kubuntu-RobertoI'll check the faq05:13
Zamboulieand what would the command for updating ATI drivers be?05:13
Agiosno idea, I use nvidia05:13
Agios!ati05:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:13
obf213divigore kubuntu does that by default05:14
Agioskde does, yes. Don't know what gnome does though05:14
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archangel_how do we hook up Agios05:14
archangel_I have the pw05:15
Jucatodigivore: Kubuntu or Ubuntu?05:15
josefhai is there anybody that want me to to install mp305:15
kubuntu-RobertoI check webmin's faq, no such luck, nothing on kubunt, ubuntu or debian. They simply say how to install, and then simply logon as root, but it doesn't work05:16
alexicon!amarok05:16
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/05:16
Jucatohi josef! everyting working fine?05:16
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josefhai jucato its work fine I have already installed the games and its fun05:17
Jucato:-D05:17
josefonly there no mp3 i read it already but i am still confused05:17
digivoreJucato: Kubuntu05:17
Jucatodigivore: go to System Settings > KDE Componenets > Session Manager05:18
digivoreobf213:  kubuntu does it by itself?  actually i havan't tried it yet.. have always closed all the apps before i shut down..05:18
digivoreHow do i make transparent windows in kubuntu?05:18
lcdguyxgl is one way i think05:18
obf213divigore it automatically restores sessions05:18
digivorei'm new, can someone explain something for me?05:21
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digivore KDE is to ubuntu     like ____  is to windows?05:21
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obf213i need major help now05:21
obf213i had a program i installed with wine.05:21
JucatoKDE is to ubuntu as Windows is to Windows....05:22
obf213the uninstall was on the desktop i used the wine command to unistall05:22
lcdguydigivore i guess the closest analogy would be areo is to windows vista05:22
obf213all of a sudden all my deskto icons dissappeard05:22
obf213the directory for my desktio dissappeareed05:22
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Jucatolcdguy: isn't aero just a type type of rendering engine?05:23
obf213nvm i got my desktop back, but lost all the ifles i had on it05:23
digivorelcdguy: don't know vista,     but 'desktop managers?' like kde are interchangable?05:23
Jucatodigivore: Windows uses it's own and only it's own Desktop Environment and WIndow Manager05:24
digivorecould i replace KDE with something else?05:24
Jucatodigivore: yes. with GNOME, Xfce, fluxbox, etc05:24
lcdguywell true, but in windows the window manager is integraded into the system while kde/gnome is a seperate promgram running on linux/unix05:24
digivoreJucato:  and i would have to uninstall KDE, and then say install another?05:25
Jucatolcdguy: yes, that's why I said "Windows is to Windows"... there's no concrete distinction in Windows05:25
Jucatodigivore: or you could have them both installed05:25
lcdguytrue05:25
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digivoreWould i use both at the same time?  i'm thinking Enlightenment in particular05:25
Jucatodigivore: at the same time, for different users05:25
Jucatobut not for the same user. at the same time05:26
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digivoreJucato:  thanks05:27
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actinicJucato, I'd like other opinions from the remaining 236 presently on the forum :)05:28
actinicj/k05:28
Jucato.......05:28
Jucatoif you could get them all to speak, then why not?05:29
actiniclol, a silent bunch they are05:29
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JucatoI estimate that 200 of the nicks in here have not spoken a word for the past weeks that I have been here05:30
wordtrue05:30
actinici concur, in fact I don't believe they exist05:30
actinicif I were to say 'Hey aztun, you're a JERK'05:30
Jucatothe do exist. but they are just silent. very silent...05:31
wordthey don't exist05:31
actinicu think he'll reply?05:31
actinic:)05:31
lcdguylol05:31
Jucatolol! word sorry... I forgot you were there05:31
word;p05:31
actinici think the kubuntu dev's stack these forums with fictitious people05:32
lcdguydoes anyone here know anything about configuring dual head ?05:32
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actinicto convey a sense of popularity05:32
wordhaha05:32
Jucatolol05:32
actinic:)05:32
wordOk..so i have a problem where when i leave my computer on for about 2 days...things start getting funky memory fills up etc. lots of seek errors (87% sure not an hd error) then when i restart Xgl doesn't start up..I got the output from dmesg after having it on for a couple days - http://pastebin.ca/156686 and after it fails to start up - http://pastebin.ca/156688 I just now realized on this occurance of the problem..that by doing /etc/init.d/kdm05:32
wordhink this is kdm's fault or something but this never happened with X...any ideas?05:32
wordfigure if i keep pasting that eventually i'll get an answer ;p05:32
Jucatohahaha05:32
actinicword, your HDD is failing05:33
wordyou sure?05:33
actinicuh ... no :)05:33
actinicbut i thought i should answer05:33
wordheh05:33
KragneracHello, I want to know (this is an Ubuntu-Xubuntu/Kubuntu question), when I installed gtk2-engines-gtk-qt on breezy, and uninstalled it, the theme and font was messed up, and I could only change them in KDE's KControl. Is this but fixed in Dapper?05:34
actinicsounds kind of like a memory leak05:34
wordi have a brand new sata drive...and a 1-2 year old ide 80 gig maxtor drive..05:34
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wordhmm actinic probably...ever used ivtv? it seems to crash on me for some reason or another..and i wonder if when it crashes it doesn't actually shut itself down entirely..and continues to muck things up..05:35
actinicword, no i haven't05:35
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actinicbut if certain processes start taking up more cpu resources ...05:36
Jucatoooh.. NeoChaosX.... from ubuntuforums?05:36
actinicyou can pretty well be sure you've gotta leak05:36
actinicthe big ? is which one/ones05:36
wordi'm partial to believing it's a combination of ivtv and mythbackend..05:36
actinicany issues discovered by googling?05:37
KragneracHello, when I try to install Compiz-KDE, I get the following error message: http://tinyurl.com/hfsjs05:37
NeoChaosXJucato: yes, I'm a Ubuntu forums regular05:37
wordthe ivtv one was discovered to be an as yet unsolved problem (or solution undocumented)...the hd error stuff...mixed results...05:38
Jucatoehehe! nice to see you here. I'm Fenyx in the forums..05:38
NeoChaosXoh, hey dude!05:38
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NeoChaosXdidn't recognize ya, obviously05:38
actinicKragnerac, is that program available thru apt or synaptic?05:38
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usuarioapt-get install traceroute05:39
Jucatoyeah.. I wish I could change my name in the forums....05:39
actinicword: that's interesting, looks like there might be a few issues then05:39
actinic!windows05:39
wordyah :(05:39
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm05:39
NeoChaosXcouldn't you just request a name change?05:39
wordloolll05:39
InuDuelistHello, all.05:39
actinic:)05:39
InuDuelistHey, Jucato's here again.05:40
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usuariois there any expert around?05:40
Kragneracactinic: Both apt and Synaptic05:40
JucatoInuDuelist: ehehe! I've been here for the past 3 hours..05:40
NeoChaosXjucato: at a previous vB board I was at, the admins had the ability to change a user's name05:40
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actinicKragnerac, have your apt-get updated?05:40
JucatoNeoChaosX: yeah, but I doubt if the admins would honor that request... they might get swamped with the same request if word gets out05:41
NeoChaosXah, understandable05:41
wordi'm not going anywhere..05:41
Jucatolol05:41
Kragneracactinic: Yes, it is updated.05:41
InuDuelistJucato, I haven't.05:41
InuDuelistI was gone, actually.05:41
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InuDuelistI was over at a friend's house watching the conclusion to Who Wants to be a Superhero?05:42
usuariomy problem is like that.. i can open adept without opening an konsole window .. I do have do do anything on the konsole window ... just if i don open it, the kdeusu window can appear and i can open the adept. after a while, it just give up to show. no message is shown. whaththehellisthat?05:43
Zamboulie!ati05:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:43
kutanAnyone have or know of any scripts that are full of good things for me to install?05:44
kutanI may have to word that differently.05:44
usuariowhat do u want?05:44
usuariogood thingz05:45
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kutanyeah.. good things05:45
kutanlol05:45
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kutanLike games, programs etc.05:45
k_useruse adept05:45
k_useru canfind anything05:46
kutanI know but I don't even know what to look for specifically >_>05:46
Kragneracanybody? :(05:46
skavengeadept search 'game'05:47
alexicon!xine05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
k_userwhere r u from? do u speak portuguese?05:47
alexicon!amarok05:47
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/05:47
Jucatoerr..05:47
Jucatoalexicon: Amarok 1.4.2 is released in Kubuntu.org05:47
k_useri know  apage where there r lots of linux games but it in portuguese05:48
kutanI don't speak portuguese05:48
HobbseeJucato: that too05:48
Jucato^_^05:48
k_userthats bad05:48
Hobbsee!no amarok is <reply>amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org05:48
ubotuI'll remember that, Hobbsee05:48
k_userwell i recomend (or however we spell that) enemy territory05:49
k_userthats a great game05:49
JucatoHobbsee: nice! :-D05:49
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Hobbsee:)05:49
k_useri still have  a problem... :(05:50
alexicon!multiverse > alexicon05:50
k_usermy adept can't open without opening the konsole because it can't open the kdeusu05:51
actinicKragnerac, that prog seems to be missing some dependency05:51
kutan!WINE > kutan05:51
k_userkdesu05:51
actinicKragnerac, you might have better luck installing from source05:51
k_useri dont know05:51
k_user:(05:52
k_usernoone helps05:52
alexiconhrmm im not seeing multiverse in adepts repository manager05:52
alexiconis that something you have to manually add now?05:52
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actinic!repositories05:53
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:53
k_useradept is installed05:53
Jucatoalexicon:Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:53
k_userit works05:53
k_userbut needs the kdesu05:53
alexiconyeah05:53
alexiconi only see the multiverse backports..05:54
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alexiconi'll add multiverse manually05:54
Jucatoalexicon: do you have a line that says "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"?05:54
alexiconyep05:54
Jucatowhere xx = uk or us. or au. etc.05:54
Jucatoalexicon: then add multiverse to that line05:54
alexiconah ok05:55
alexiconcheers05:55
Jucatothat's what the page I linked to instructs you to do...05:55
Bbettohow is the file to change the screen resolution?05:55
alexiconcool05:55
Mike|question - does kubuntu have a package for gnome, like ubuntu's kubuntu-desktop?05:55
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k_usermultiverse isnt on adept default, you have to edit the http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ line, then put "<space> multiverse" after the universe... in both lines05:55
Jucatoubuntu-desktop05:56
Mike|because i occasionally get fed up with kde and go to gnome, and vice versa05:56
Mike|ok05:56
JucatoMike|: kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop05:56
alexiconexcellent05:56
k_userdeb and deb-src05:56
actinicwhaddya guys think of xfce?05:56
Mike|i had to take the pc into a repair shop last week and they  just happened to leave a kubuntu disk in the tray by accident05:56
Jucatok_user: no need for deb-src if you're not going to download source code05:56
Mike|and I was planning to try ubuntu anyway05:56
Bbettohow is the file to change the screen resolution?05:57
actinicthat's a good story Mike|05:57
Jucatoactinic: it's fast... clean.... and ends there... at least for me...05:57
k_userBbeto, depends on your video card05:57
JucatoBbetto: what do you mean?05:57
Mike|thank you, i try. I'll be at the golden flamingo all next week05:57
Mike|tip your waitress05:57
Jucatoehehe05:58
actiniclol05:58
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k_useris there any guitar pro-like program besides kguitar?05:59
Mike|took me a while to figure out why my computer kept booting kubuntu instead of suse. I was wondering if I needed to call and chew them out for messing with my hard drive when I noticed the light flashing in the dvd tray05:59
alexiconwhats the name of that xinelib you need for amarok? libxine-extracodecs??05:59
alexiconah gotit05:59
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k_userlibxine-extracodecs contains the jpeg codecs06:00
actinic!amarok06:00
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org06:00
k_useroops mpeg06:00
jerryhi06:00
k_userbut to find it, you must open the multiverse at http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/06:00
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actinicMike|, my bootable porn CD really threw me for a loop06:01
Mike|hah06:01
Agiosarchangel_: how'd it go?06:01
actinic:)06:01
archangel_hey man It worked06:02
Mike|this really is the slicket OS installer i've ever seen06:02
Agioscool06:02
Mike|slickest*06:02
actinicMike|, which one?  kubunt?06:02
Mike|yes06:02
archangel_I got a little hand full of errors though06:02
k_userdammit... i'm drunk06:02
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actinicyou're gonna luv this distro06:02
Agiosarchangel_: if it works, ignore them :)06:02
actinicexcept adding a printer can be a pain in the arse06:03
archangel_lol06:03
Mike|well, i don't have one anyway06:03
actinicthen you'll really like it :)06:03
Mike|or i do, but it got a paper jam 3 years ago and i've never really had a reason to figure out how to clear it06:03
archangel_hey thanks for your help agios06:03
actinicstill in there, huh?06:03
Mike|yup06:03
actiniclol06:03
k_useronce thre was me06:03
k_userthen there was a bunch o beers06:04
k_userthen there was me drunk06:04
unix_infidelanyone getting garbled text with aterm and man pages, as aterm cant handle unicdoe?06:04
actinicspeaking of beers i did a beer mod for my pc06:04
unix_infidelunicode*06:04
k_userand as time goes by, there was me drunk on irc06:04
actinichang on i'll show you the pic ...06:04
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archangel_Agios: good night dude06:04
Mike|i do wish it had been a little more obvious what you need to do before you can compile source code06:04
archangel_take it easy Agios06:05
k_userbeer mod?06:05
actinicmy beer mod for the pc:  ftp://oberon.gotdns.com/bottleopener.jpg06:05
kutano_O How the hell do I make firefox my default browser instead of konquerer?06:05
Mike|took me 2 hours to figure out gcc wasn't installed, how to get all that stuff going, find the kernel headers, etc etc06:05
Mike|and I think I broke something in the process anyway06:05
unix_infidelactinic: p3, you must be crazy, because that's all that box is pretty much worth doing.06:05
Mike|LOL nice06:05
actinichey it works!06:05
k_userhahahahahahahahahahhaahaha06:06
k_useri want one at m ypc06:06
actinicplease ignore the books in the background :)06:06
actinicits an old pic06:06
k_useri did't see the windows stuff06:06
k_useroops06:06
actinicwell they didn't have a 'kubuntu unleashed' book at the time06:07
kutanAnyone?06:07
alexiconhey does the version of firefox in adept let anyone paste links directly onto a tab/browser page06:07
alexiconmine makes me put it in the address bar06:07
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Mike|paste links directly..... huh?06:08
alexiconjust wanna know if theres an option to allow link pasting or if i should just get firefox from the web06:08
Agiosnite archangel_06:08
k_userkubuntu changed my life06:08
alexiconlike middle click a link onto the browser06:08
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Agiosglad it's working06:08
alexiconkubuntu saved my life keke06:08
k_usernow i spend nights finding packages06:08
alexiconlol06:08
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derek_!ati06:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:08
skavengeis that a labatt blue bottle in your hand?06:08
skavengemust be canadian06:09
k_user!traceroute06:09
ubotutraceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB06:09
actinickutan, system settings > kde components06:09
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kutan!killtrace06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about killtrace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
kutan>_>06:09
kutan<_<06:09
k_useroptional :P06:09
kutanThanks actinic06:09
actinicskavenge, it's been so long i don't remember06:09
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skavengefrom the top of the bottle it looks like 'labatt' heh06:10
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k_userwhere r u people from?06:10
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actinicyou're prob right06:10
=== Mike| is a refugee from Windowsland
alexiconlol06:11
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alexiconmmmm windoze refugee status06:11
=== k_user is a drunk from Brzil
actinic!firefox06:11
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:11
k_userdammit06:11
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k_userBRAZIL06:11
alexiconengland06:11
alexiconbut im in japan right now06:11
alexiconhehehe06:11
alexiconfun06:11
k_userjapan???06:11
alexiconalmost time for some component shopping06:11
alexiconyeah in tokyo for 5 weeks visiting a mate from uni06:12
actinic<-- arizona06:12
k_userwatashi wa nihon-go no gakusei detsu06:12
alexicontokyo is brilliant!06:12
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kutanWell that didn't work, do I need to uninstall konquerer to actually make firefox my default browser? =\06:12
alexiconlol06:12
actinicgood old tokyo, the 'city waiting to die' according to many geologists06:12
k_userthe only thing i still remember how to say06:12
alexiconwatashi wa wakaremasen06:12
k_userwhat the hell is an wakarimasen??06:13
k_userdammit06:13
alexicondont understand06:13
alexiconlol06:13
Mike|no...... you gotta edit the mime-types for http I think or html or something06:13
Mike|been so long, i can't really remember how I did it06:13
alexiconand hanashimasen for dont speak06:13
Mike|text/html i think06:13
alexiconthats about all i know lol06:13
alexicontabemas for hungry06:13
alexiconmmm06:13
alexiconman i thought itd be all lush sushi out here but ive just been getting some weird food06:13
alexiconlotta liver kidneys hearts and joints D:06:14
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alexiconpig joints were the worst srsly06:14
Mike|...06:14
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k_useri heard it rice everywhere..06:14
k_userthey just eat rice06:14
Mike|they sell pickled pig feet in most places around here06:14
Mike|never tried it, never plan to06:15
alexiconnah06:15
alexiconive not had much rice cept when eating chinese food here :P06:15
alexiconah and bento boxes06:15
alexiconyakitori and okinawan food.. weird stuff man06:15
Mike|i hear the mcdonalds there sell something called a "rice ball"06:15
alexiconwe got spam and eggs at an okinawan restarant lol06:15
k_userthere's a sweet beans stuff too06:15
alexiconhrmm i havent gone to mc donalds yet06:16
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alexiconsee the odd sad looking westerner in the window and decide i best not go in06:16
alexiconlol06:16
=== Mike| read that in a Tom Clancy novel, so it might not be true
=== k_user thinks tokyo must be fun... lots of pinked hair people
alexiconhehe06:17
alexiconits a lotta bleach blonde hair06:17
alexiconbig hair seems to be pretty in lol06:17
alexiconand yeah everyone likes their expensive brands here06:18
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alexicondolce and louis vittion @_@06:18
alexiconspent my money on a laptop tho lol06:18
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k_userwell06:18
k_useri never had sex with an asian06:18
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k_useryou can try that06:19
alexiconlol06:19
alexiconim a girl06:19
k_userdammit06:19
Mike|even better06:19
alexiconi hear the guys have small willies06:19
skavengehaha06:19
skavengewow06:19
alexiconid rather not find out tho lol06:19
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k_useryou can find out though06:19
alexiconim sure i could haha06:19
alexicongood drinking culture here06:19
k_userwhell06:19
alexiconwell matched with britian06:19
k_useryou can get two06:19
alexiconlol06:20
k_userthey may make one06:20
k_userwathever06:20
skavengeyou could find out and write a book so all the women out there really know whats going on06:20
k_userjust forget it06:20
skavengethe secrets out06:20
k_userget an asian girl...06:20
alexiconlol06:20
k_userheheheheh06:20
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k_userit would be better06:21
alexiconguys here are really cute tho06:21
k_user:P06:21
alexiconactually06:21
alexiconEVERYTHING here is really cute06:21
alexiconexcessively06:21
k_userwow06:21
alexiconits good marketting though06:21
skavengewhat do you expect from a country obsessed with hello kitty? ;)06:21
k_userman.. you make it looks sexy06:22
alexiconlol06:22
alexiconits awesome tho06:22
alexicontheir jr rail system06:22
alexiconuses a penguin as its ticket mascot06:22
alexicontheres penguins everywhere!06:22
InuDuelistI come to the channel hoping to answer questions, and I get a common IM conversation?06:22
Mike|hah06:22
alexiconlol sorry InuDuelist whats your question06:23
InuDuelistWell, back to what I was doing.06:23
k_userask a question06:23
InuDuelistNo, to answer them.06:23
InuDuelistNot ask them.06:23
k_userok06:23
k_userback to IM06:23
alexiconyep im off anyway, thanks for the help guys!06:23
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k_userbye alex-girl06:24
k_userhave a nice japan ther06:24
=== Mike| is sure he'll have some momentarily...... is installing the 107 updates it says he needs to download
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Mike|last time I did this, it broke the network card ^_^06:24
pierrethsomeone here to help me read a dvd?06:24
InuDuelistYou want to read a DVD?06:24
InuDuelistI think you need more help than you think.06:25
InuDuelist:P06:25
pierrethwhy?06:25
InuDuelist...06:25
InuDuelistIt's a joke, but generally, people don't "read" DVDs.06:25
InuDuelistTheir computers do.06:25
pierrethlol06:25
InuDuelistAnyway, back to stuff.06:25
pierrethi want to play a dvd on my computer06:25
InuDuelistStick it in the DVD drive.06:26
k_useri never oppened an DVD on linux, but as i know, DVD codecs are expensive, but if you install videolan on windows, it has the free codec06:26
Mike|libcss =)06:26
pierrethok, i have to pay for playing a dvd on linux?06:26
k_useri dont know if it works on linux06:26
Mike|sure it does. you need a) win32codecs and b) libcss, which might be included in a)06:27
InuDuelistapt-get install win32codecs06:27
Mike|and xine06:27
InuDuelistClose enough.06:27
k_useradept is good06:27
pierrethwin32? i am on linux06:27
Mike|yes06:27
der_steppenwolfhi06:27
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Mike|it's the name of the codecs package06:27
der_steppenwolfsomeone uses transcode?06:28
Mike|for stuff that normally playso n win3206:28
pierrethok, does this works on ppc too?06:28
Mike|...06:28
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=== Mike| dunno about that
k_usertheres no such ting as win32codecs in my adept06:29
der_steppenwolfto convert from divx to dvd?06:29
pierrethk_user: i have nothing that either06:29
k_userthere's a videolan-doc06:30
k_userlet me see if i can install that videolan stuff06:30
Mike|http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html06:30
Mike|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18770906:31
k_useryou can find videolan for ubuntu at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html06:31
k_usermassa06:32
k_useryou just have to install kvlc at the adept06:32
k_usermassa = cool,  sorry... i was typing inportuguese for a while06:33
k_user:P06:33
k_useri'm installing it here to see if it plays a dvd06:34
k_user70%06:35
k_usergo go go06:35
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pierrethif i try to play a dvd using totem i have this message: 'Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it'06:37
k_userok! it worked!06:38
pierrethWhat are the appropriate plugins?06:38
k_userjust open adept and find kvlc06:38
k_userinstall it06:38
k_userthen you can open dvds06:38
k_useri just opened one with kaffeine06:38
k_usercool06:39
k_userozzy dvd06:39
Mike|don't feel bad. i've never gotten totem to do anything else06:39
Mike|even WITH all the codecs installed and working in other players06:40
der_steppenwolfi am using transcode to convert an avi to a dvd, but i get an error:06:40
der_steppenwolf[transcode]  warning : /usr/lib/transcode/import_ffmpeg.so: undefined symbol: dts_init06:40
der_steppenwolfLoading video import module failed06:40
der_steppenwolfi have installed ffmpeg as well06:41
=== k_user dunno
pierrethi does not work06:42
pierrethi have installed kvlc06:42
k_userumm06:42
pierrethand kaffeine does not play06:42
Mike|there's a multimedia faq for ubuntu somewhere. i saw it last night06:42
pierrethit says i do not have the right or the source does not countains data06:43
k_usermaybe it the extracodecs package i  installed before06:43
pierrethwhat is it?06:43
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k_userlibxine-extracodecs06:44
k_userit says here it opens dvds06:44
Hawkwind!dvd06:44
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:44
Mike|https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats06:44
k_useri think u must installl xine too06:44
pierrethi have libxine-extracodecs06:46
pierrethi have no package named xine06:46
k_userumm06:46
k_userinstall it06:46
pierrethinstall what?06:46
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k_usergxine06:47
pierrethit is already installed06:47
k_user:S06:47
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Mike|if kubuntu is this fast on vmware, i imagine it'll absolutely scream on that new computer when it gets here06:50
Mike|assuming it works on the hardware ^_^06:50
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RawSewageKonversation 1.0 has been released06:51
RawSewagehttp://konversation.kde.org/06:51
k_userman.. i dunno06:51
k_user!dvd06:51
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:51
flaccidRawSewage: can i apt-get it?06:51
RawSewageflaccid, you have to add lines06:51
RawSewageto sources.list06:51
flaccidok i check it out06:52
RawSewagehttp://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Kubuntu06:52
digivoreIs there a way for me to add a printer in kubuntu that is attached to my windows box?06:52
flaccidso 1.0 is not stable yet?06:53
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RawSewageIm sure it is06:53
flacciddigivore: kcontrol -> peripherals -> printers06:53
Mike|well now I see why i had trouble with vmware tools last night. when you install build-essential, it downloads the wrong linux headers06:53
flaccidThe latest stable release of Konversation is available in Kubuntu's regular package tree, just sudo apt-get install konversation or use the Adept package manager to install it (note that Konversation is installed by default).06:53
Mike|adept does06:53
mats__Hello -- excuse me, but has anyone tried to set up ZeroConf?06:54
flaccidRawSewage: must not be in sources yet06:55
RawSewageI installed it06:55
RawSewageit just came out today06:56
RawSewageprobably in sources soon06:56
flaccidok cool06:57
flaccidbut it will be the same version thats in dev nightly build atm?06:57
k_userman06:57
RawSewageI have no clue06:57
digivoreflaccid:  I'm trying to scan for it, but when i find the windows box, it gives me an error06:58
k_useri really dont know whats heappening06:58
pierrethdo i have to mount the dvd?06:58
k_useri just put it inthe tray06:58
k_userit found it autommatically06:58
flacciddigivore: add it manually via smb06:58
digivoreError returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED06:59
k_userif it has find yours, you may see an dvd in your desktop06:59
flacciddigivore: also ensure availability by issuing in konsole: smbclient -N //server/printershare06:59
flacciddigivore: the smb server on the windows box must have a security restriction of some sort like perms06:59
pierrethkaffeine no longer works, i will restart07:00
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k_useris your kubuntu dapper or breezy?07:01
k_userwell07:01
k_user:P07:01
flaccidkonversation 1.0 is going to be a lot different from my 0.19 i suspect07:02
Jucatoflaccid: one major feature is having tree-like navigation at the side07:02
Jucatorather than just tabs at the tob/bottom07:02
InuDuelistMmm. I'm off to sleep.07:03
HawkwindHmmm, when is knot2 supposed to be released ?07:03
Jucatosweet dreams InuDuelist!07:03
InuDuelistThanks.07:03
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JucatoHawkwind: Supposedly today, but don't know for certain...07:03
InuDuelistHey, Jucato, have any idea what happened to intelikey?07:03
JucatoInuDuelist: I home nothing unlikely...07:03
InuDuelistWhat?07:04
HawkwindJucato: Ahhh, I thought it was due on the 31st.  Guess it's due on the 1st(today)07:04
k_userwell07:04
k_useri not drunk anymore07:04
JucatoHawkwind: it's still the 31st on the west coast :-D07:04
k_userit sucks07:04
k_useri will smoke  acigarret and sleep07:04
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k_usergood night people07:05
Jucatogood night k_user!07:05
k_userbye07:05
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flaccidhmm cool Jucato07:07
pierrethlook in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2221507:08
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Mike|dammit07:08
pierreththis is the error i have with kaffeine07:08
Mike|clearly, vmware tools and kubuntu do not mix well07:08
Mike|eth0 has vanished and now i have no net access07:08
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JucatoMike|: are you using VMWare Server?.07:08
Mike|vmware player actually07:09
Jucatoah07:09
Mike|but i snagged a copy of tools out of workstation 5.507:09
Mike|i have it for linux. i just can't get suse booted up at the moment07:09
JucatoI think Server has a better way of installing VMWare tools07:09
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pierrethit works!!07:10
Mike|this is the same thing that happened last night. installed vmware tools and suddenly it lost all track of eth007:10
Jucatobtw, there's a SUSE 10.1 using KDE 3.5.4 VMWare image available07:10
pierrethbut i have to use my external drive07:10
pierrethhow can i use my internal drive instead?07:10
Mike|i can't resize the window without vmware tools. can't use vmware tools without borking my network07:11
Mike|lovely07:11
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Mike|ok, so how do I force this thing to see my nic again?07:11
Jucatoerr...07:11
Mike|i do ifconfig and it doesn't see that it exists07:11
Mike|all it has it the loopback interface07:11
Jucatoifdown then ifup again?07:11
Jucatonot entirely sure, though07:12
Mike|SIOCSIFADDR: No Such Device07:12
Mike|dammit07:12
Jucato @_@07:12
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Mike|maybe if I switch it to bridged network instead of nat....07:13
Jucatomaybe. Although on my system, bridged didn't work...07:13
Mike|yeah, me too07:14
Mike|now that I think of it07:14
Mike|oh well. just wanted to play around with it anyway07:14
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HawkwindJucato: http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/esp.html07:15
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Mike|oh lord. it messed it all up. now it won't even reboot07:16
JucatoHawkwind: ehehehe07:17
Mike|definitely won't try this when I install it for real07:17
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Jucato!iso > Jucato07:18
Mike|why does ubuntu use ext3 instead of reiserfs?07:18
HawkwindMike|: It can use ReiserFS07:19
Bbettowhat means this?07:19
HawkwindJucato: You figure out how that site works ?07:19
Bbettokded: cannot connect to X server :0.007:19
BbettoDCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-5891' to 'kded'07:19
Bbettokded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.07:19
HawkwindAckkkk07:19
Hawkwind!pastebin > Bbetto07:19
JucatoHawkwind: no07:19
Jucato:-D07:19
HawkwindJucato: Heh, let me explain07:19
Bbettosorry07:19
HawkwindLook at the original six cards...write them down on paper what they are.....07:20
HawkwindClick the eyeball, anyone, then look at the 5 cards on the next screen.  They are completely different from the original 607:20
Bbettobut is a big problem please help me07:20
HawkwindFor instance, you'll have a queen of clubs and a king of spades on the first screen.  Then you have queen of spades and king of clubs on the next07:20
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pierrethhow can i eject the dvd?07:20
HawkwindBbetto: Try telling us what you are doing or trying to do to get that error07:20
Hawkwindpierreth: eject /mnt/cdrom  or whatever the path is07:20
Hawkwindpierreth: Or press the eject button on the drive itself07:21
pierrethHawkwind: there is no shortcut in Kaffeine?07:21
JucatoHawkwind: oooh....07:21
HawkwindJucato: Hah!  Pretty sneaky now ain't it07:21
Jucatodefinitely07:21
Hawkwindpierreth: Dunno.  CLI is where things work :)07:21
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Jucatopierreth: if you have the DVD icon on the desktop, try right-clicking on it and choose Eject07:22
pierrethJucato: why i cannot do it from kaffeine?07:22
Mike|i really hate it when software overrides my eject button07:22
HawkwindWhat software would override your eject button ??07:23
pierrethMike|: i really love that07:23
Mike|i'm sure there's a good reason, but usually i notice it when something crashes and now i can't get rid of a disc07:23
Jucatobecause Kaffeine isn't meant to handle drives and stuff? only multimedia? just guessing07:23
pierreththere is no eject button on the mac and it is better like that07:24
Mike|i had some serious problems with a cd burner once. it would get hung up when I inserted blank discs and I couldn't get the stupid thing unfrozen or open the tray07:24
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pierrethMike|: you can use a pin, no?07:25
HawkwindMike|: Paperclip in the little hole on the front of all CD/DVD roms works wonders.  That's why it's there actually :)07:25
Jucatoyep..07:25
Mike|i didn't know that at the time07:25
Jucatothat worked once...07:25
Jucatobut I was so scared to use that...07:25
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Jucatowould you guys happen to know if Konversation could do transparencies like XChat can?07:26
Mike|never did figure out what was wrong with it. I replaced it with a dvd burner and it works fine07:26
HawkwindJucato: No it can't07:26
Jucatosad,,,07:26
HawkwindJucato: Sho is planning on adding true transparency with composite soon he said07:26
Jucatoehehe.07:26
HawkwindJucato: The transparency thing is why I haven't switched to konversation yet actually07:26
Jucatolol! and I thought you were going to say it was unnecessary :-D07:27
Jucatobtw, XChat doesn't use composite to do transparency right?07:27
JucatoI mean, just like Konsole?07:27
HawkwindJucato: No07:27
HawkwindIt uses suedo transparency07:28
Jucatoahh... hope I won't have to enable composite/translucency/shadows to have that in Konversation...07:28
Jucatodarn kompmgr almost thrased my system...07:28
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Jucatos/thrased/trashed07:29
Jucatodarn fast fingers...07:29
HawkwindI'd love to try AIGLX/XGL but I'm too scared of trashing my system as well07:30
Jucatowell, kompmgr is supposed to be more stable, iirc... since it doesn't need AIGLX/XGL...07:31
ketsugikompmgr?07:31
HawkwindMandriva 2007 has it where you set it up in MCC and it's native07:31
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Jucatokompmgr = KDE Composite Manager, built into KWin07:32
ketsugiah, so it's not a separate package, then07:32
Jucatonope. nothing you need to install07:32
Jucatoit WAS one of the strengths of KDE over GNOME, before XGL came...07:33
Jucatonow that XGL's around, I don't think anyone would bother fixing it... that's why I'm not that motivated to complain/file a bug report...07:33
Jucato:-(07:33
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pierrethok Kaffeine works but not Totem07:33
Jucatoprobably because Kaffeine uses a different engine than Totem? (unless they are both using xine now)07:34
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pierrethi will try to restart with my external drive off07:35
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JucatoI wonder when Kubuntu will have its own unique startup/shutdown sound...07:38
Jucatojust like Ubuntu's...07:39
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pierrethkaffeine now works with my internal drive07:40
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Jucatowb nixternal!07:40
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pierrethtotem is still not working07:41
pierrethi will unsintall it07:41
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nixternaldo you ever sleep ;)07:42
nixternaltotem, in kubuntu?07:42
nixternalgo lag go07:42
Jucatonixternal: I do.. but it's almost 2pm here. :-D07:42
Jucatotimezonezzzzzzz07:43
Bbettohow upgrade kde?07:43
Jucatonixternal: how about you?  you ain't sleeping yet?07:43
Admiral_ChicagoBbetto, i assume you mean how can you update KDE?07:43
nixternalgettin' ready to ;)07:43
Jucatolol07:43
Bbettonop07:43
Admiral_Chicagolook at kubuntu.org07:43
Bbettoooops07:43
nixternalgo Admiral_Chicago go!!!  Thats how us chicago guys do it ;)07:43
HawkwindSame here.  In fact, I'm heading to bed now07:44
pierrethwell, good night now!07:44
Jucatoooh.. both from Chicago..07:44
Jucatoyikes!! don't leave me here.... @_@07:44
Admiral_Chicagonixternal, i meet a few guys from chicago that know about *nix07:44
nixternalwouldn't have it any other way..he is one of my underground hackers ;)07:44
Admiral_Chicagotell you in our channel07:44
Jucatoahaha!07:44
Admiral_Chicagoshh, blowing my cover07:45
nixternalheh07:45
Jucatonixternal: would you know if there are suggestions about making a unique Kubuntu startup/shutdown sound, or just using Ubuntu's?07:45
nixternallike making your own sound?07:45
Jucatono, I mean as the default.07:45
nixternalisn't it located under "System Settings -> Sounds & Multimedia" or something?07:46
nixternalkcontrol will have it as well somewhere07:46
Admiral_ChicagoBbetto, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php07:46
Jucatonixternal: Kubuntu only uses the KDE defaults. Ubuntu has it's own unique startup/shutdown sound07:46
Mike|you should change it to a wave of the guy shouting LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROY JENKINS!!!!!!07:46
nixternalhahahahahahahahaha07:47
Mike|or better, change it on somebody else's pc, jack up the volume and turn it off07:47
Jucato @_@07:47
Mike|and make sure you're around next time they boot up :D07:47
JucatoI'd go for a screaming sound07:47
nixternallike a hight pitched scream..oh no, the ideas are running07:47
Mike|i just so happen to have that file07:47
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Mike|somewhere around here07:47
Jucatolol07:48
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Jucatobut no, really. seriously speaking...07:48
Jucatoer.. nvm... I was just wondering really...07:48
Mike|must be on my laptop07:49
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Jucatoehehe07:50
Mike|nope, here it is07:50
Mike|http://www.mikehealan.com/stuff/leeroy_jenkins.mp307:51
Mike|:D07:51
HobbseeJucato: we have kubuntu defaults for that, which are different.07:51
JucatoHobbsee: kubuntu-defaults only uses one of the KDE sounds, right?07:51
HobbseeJucato: i think we use kubuntu.ogg or something07:52
Hobbseeid' have to look it up07:52
Jucatoaah07:52
JucatoI'll go check again...07:52
Jucatoah the kubuntu-login.ogg (barely audible)?07:52
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Hobbseethink so07:53
Admiral_Chicagoi don't think my computer has a start up tone07:53
Admiral_Chicagobut then again, i don't turn it off07:53
Jucatowell, at least there's one... I'll just edit it to make it louder...07:53
Jucatonot even restart KDE or X?07:53
Admiral_Chicagonope07:53
Jucatoehehe nice07:53
Admiral_Chicagoi'll probably turn  it off tomorrow night or something07:54
HobbseeJucato: true, it si very quiet07:54
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Jucatohm... is it legal to edit it? I'll probably crank it up in Audacity or something...07:54
HobbseeJucato: i'd check if anyone's planning on changing it first07:54
Jucatoaah07:55
Jucatokool 15 minutes to go for the download to finish07:55
Jucatoso, I guess it wasn't changed in Edgy?07:55
Admiral_ChicagoJucato, what kind of stupid question is thatL07:55
Admiral_Chicagois it legal to edit07:56
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: a stupid question that probably deserves a stupid answer?07:56
Admiral_Chicagochicken07:56
Admiral_Chicagothere a stupid answer07:56
Jucatothanks! ehehe07:56
Admiral_Chicagoat best, you can submit it to the kubuntu folks and ask them to put it in Edgy07:57
Admiral_Chicagoi don't see why they wouldn't07:57
Jucatoehehe! I'll just be making it louder in Audacity... no big change07:57
HobbseeJucato: it hasnt so far....ask Ridde*ll when he wakes up in -devel as to whether anyone's doing it.07:57
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Jucato(but need to get Audacity installed first)...07:57
HobbseeJucato: and/or find a better sound completely.  *shrugs*07:58
Admiral_Chicagoi would put it on my computer07:58
Admiral_Chicagobut I don't have my leeroy clips anymore07:58
JucatoMike|'s idea sounds good... and the mp3 sounds even better07:58
Jucato:-D07:58
Hobbseeheh07:58
Mike|http://www.mikehealan.com/stuff/leeroy_jenkins.mp307:58
HobbseeJucato: or we just start running subliminal messages for the login sound07:58
Jucatoyeah!! that would be awesome@07:59
Jucatos/@/!07:59
Mike|i laughed for a full hour first time I saw that leeroy video07:59
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Mike|http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7714643693602998196&q=leeroy+jenkins07:59
Jucatoa subliminal message that says "Hobbsee is queen" would be nice...08:00
Hobbseehah08:00
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Jucatolol08:00
Hobbseei didnt think that would catch on, you know08:00
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Jucatoyou are the queen of Kubuntu, AFAIK...08:00
HobbseeJucato: true.  there arent many to choose from08:01
Hobbseeel's the queen of usability, there arent many other women there08:01
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HobbseeJucato: did you know the story behind that?08:01
Jucatoaaah.. Ellen, the woman behind the new System Settings?08:01
Hobbseeyes08:01
JucatoI have to thank her... really great job08:01
JucatoHobbsee: the story behind?08:02
HobbseeJucato: why i was getting called queen08:02
Jucatolol no08:02
HobbseeJucato: she's in -devel sometimes.08:02
JucatoI just thought of it...08:02
HobbseeJucato: so you can :P08:02
Jucatowhat a cowink-e-dink...08:02
HobbseeJucato: ahhh.  well, i went for MOTU a while ago, but i'm not really a master, being female.08:02
Jucatonever knew you were really called "the queen" there..08:02
Hobbseedidnt really want to be mistress of the universe, so i said that i'd have to be called queen of the universe, or queen hobbsee.  it stuck :P08:03
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Jucato[btw, if anyone needs help/assistance, feel free to ask. don't be afraid to interrupt] 08:03
Jucatoehehe! but it sounds sooo nice08:03
Jucatoack! why does Audacity have to use GTK 1...08:03
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HawkwindAckkk....why does anything have to use GTK 108:04
HawkwindHah08:04
Jucatolol08:04
Jucatobut GTK 2 is more or less bearable...08:04
Jucatobtw, Hobbsee is ellen working on AdeptUsability, too?08:05
HobbseeJucato: dont know08:05
HobbseeJucato: that's...what...a spec?08:05
Jucatoa page in the wiki. lol08:05
Hobbseeah yes, the one written by people who have never even looked at the adept codebase?08:06
Jucatoyep... that's what we get for wikis...08:06
Hobbseewell, they do have their place.  but a long list of wishes is pretty useless if you dont have the maintainer on board, wanting to do them.  or arent going to do them yourself08:07
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HawkwindJucato: Here's one for ya.  Let me know the results when I wake up in the morning :P  http://www.smalltime.com/dictator.html08:09
Jucatook08:09
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nonicknamelol08:30
Bbettothere something like automatrix in kubuntu?08:32
JucatoAutomatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/08:32
Jucatoyes08:33
JucatoBoth Automatix and EasyUbuntu support Kubuntu08:33
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Bbettoin console how can i get automatix08:43
Hobbsee!automatix08:43
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.08:43
JucatoAutomatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/08:43
JucatoBbetto: that Automatix website has instructions on what to do08:44
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Jucato(although I have to talk to them about giving instructions to use "sudo kate"...)08:44
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Healotgksu kate08:46
Jucatorawr Healot08:46
Jucatokdesu kate08:46
Healotoops08:46
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Healotwrong desktop08:46
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Jucatoheh08:46
Kiongkuyo08:47
KiongkuXD08:47
Jucatowhoa! Kiongku long time!08:47
KiongkuJucato: ya08:47
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KiongkuJucato: did u get a nwe upgrade for amarok?08:47
Kiongku*new08:47
Jucato!amarok08:48
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org08:48
Kiongkuhmm08:48
Jucato(credits to Hobbsee for teaching ubotu)08:48
Kiongku1.4.1 seems so08:48
Jucatoso...??08:49
Kiongkuupgrading XD08:49
Kiongkuso Jucato how are u doing08:49
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KiongkuNew stuff?08:49
Jucatodoing fine. how about you?08:49
Jucatonew stuff? KTorrent 2.0.1 in dapper-backports?08:49
Kiongkucant find good torrents XD.. doing all through irc08:50
Jucatoehehe08:50
KiongkuMe.. sleepy.. aprt that i think i'm still alive08:50
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Kiongkuwhat torrents u got?08:51
Jucatoehehe secret....08:51
Bbettohow install kde in ubuntu?08:51
Hobbseesudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:52
KiongkuJucato: hahah08:52
Bbettoonli kde no all suit08:52
JucatoBbetto: if you are already using Kubuntu, you are using KDE already08:52
KiongkuJucato: he sais ubuntu..08:52
Bbettonop, i using ubuntu but only want kde08:52
Bbettono all the programs08:52
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Kiongkuhmm08:54
Kiongku!info kde08:54
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB08:54
Kiongku;p;08:54
Kiongku*lol08:54
JucatoI was having a hard time understanding what he was saying from the start... @_@08:54
Kiongkuhahaha08:54
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Healotjust want some suggest, i think ubuntu libxine is way outdated, since ubuntu repackage the extras into libxine-extracodecs08:55
Healotshould I make my custom package to replace libxine-extracodecs?08:56
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Healoti think i did the same with many games packages before...08:56
JucatoHealot I think everyone in Dapper would be extremely pleased if a newer libxine (1.1.2) was packaged/backported for FLAC08:57
Kiongkubah.. dunt care much as long as it works :)08:57
HobbseeJucato: they're looking into it08:57
JucatoHobbsee: great!!08:57
Hobbseethere is no libxine, i've got no idea what Healot's talking about08:57
Hobbsee!info libxine08:57
ubotuPackage libxine does not exist in any distro I know08:57
HealotJucato: I am thinking of that, with the latest xine from xinehq08:57
Jucato!info libxine-main108:58
ubotulibxine-main1: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2 (dapper), package size 2865 kB, installed size 6632 kB08:58
HobbseeHealot: if you replace libxine-extracodecs, many more things will break08:58
HealotHobbsee: was thinking of that consquence08:58
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Hobbseesarah@sarah:~$ apt-cache showsrc xine-lib | grep ^Bin08:59
HobbseeBinary: libxine1-dbg, libxine1, libxine-dev, libxine-main108:59
Hobbseesarah@sarah:~$ show libxine-extracodecs | grep Source08:59
HobbseeSource: xine-extracodecs08:59
Hobbseehmmm.  i thougth that xine-extracodecs would be in xine-lib08:59
Healotbut I successfully package the latest xine package, should I make the package to replace libxine-extracodecs08:59
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Hobbseethey're both 1.1.2 in dapper08:59
Healoti can do that in the older ubuntu release, since xine was in one single package08:59
JucatoDapper uses xine-lib 1.1.109:00
Healoti mean, packaging the latest xine from xinehq....09:00
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Healoti think the newer than ubuntu's09:00
Hobbsees/dapper/edgy/09:00
Jucato:-D09:00
HobbseeHealot: there are likely ubuntu/debian specific patches on that.09:00
Healotthanks...09:01
josefjucato can you help me out with the mp309:01
Jucatolike what Hobbsee said, they're working to make a newer libxine available, probably in dapper-updates?09:01
Jucatoor maybe just a patch...09:01
Kiongkuhmm09:01
HobbseeJucato: backports, i think09:01
Jucatojosef: how may I be of service?09:01
Healotrebuild or patch or backports?09:01
Jucatoaah...09:01
Hobbseenot sure yet - siretart wants to look at it, and remove some of the crack.09:01
Kiongkubtw backports.. its like a beta test base?09:02
josefwell i have already installed 3 3 files for mp3 i mean the codecs but still it wont play mp309:02
JucatoKiongku: no09:02
Hobbseejosef: install libxine-extracodecs?09:02
josefi mean 3 files sory09:02
JucatoKiongku: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports09:02
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Netslayeram i missing glibc or something ? error: stdio.h: No such file or directory     << so how do i get it?09:03
Healotthanks, Hobbsee and Jucato09:03
Jucatojosef: I think I mentioned installing libxine-extracodecs yesterday?09:03
HobbseeNetslayer: have a look on packages.ubuntu.com for that file09:03
HobbseeNetslayer: there's a search by file thing - second search box09:03
josefyes you gave me the link i read it but i was confused but i didt to install it but it still doesnt play09:04
JucatoI think the header files are in linux-headers-*09:04
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Jucatojosef: so is libxine-extracodecs installed now?09:04
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josefyes  i think so there are 3 files that i installed the gstreamer0.8-mad09:05
KiongkuJucato: oh lol.. well its kinda beta :P in the sense its not final approved by ubuntu09:05
JucatoKiongku: it is approved. otherwise it won't even be in the repositories09:05
Jucatojosef: no, not those09:05
KiongkuJucato: ehrm.. ok nvm stupid question anyway09:06
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HobbseeKiongku: what's not approved?09:06
josef?? with one... is it09:06
Jucatojust "libxine-extracodecs"09:06
Jucatono gstreamer stuff...09:06
panchosudo apt-get update09:06
_rince_mrgn09:06
KiongkuHobbsee: i meant the backports.. but nvm i was getting the wrong idea i guess09:07
Hobbseeah09:07
josefhow to intall thru add/remove or adep in terminal09:07
JucatoKiongku: they're just for the latest stuff you don't absolutely need to have. but the packagers would never put something of beta quality in the repositories. dapper-backports is still an official repository, even if it's just backports09:08
KiongkuJucato: hehe09:08
Jucatojosef: K Menu > System > Adept (Package Manager) and look for "libxine-extracodecs"09:08
josefok wait09:09
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Jucatoehehehe09:09
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pancho_PAncho200609:09
Healotbtw, who is running the ubuntu-classroom channel?09:10
Jucatonalioth, nixternal, hybrid. the members of Ubuntu-NUN mostly09:10
josefi got it but not installed  and then what should i do09:10
Jucatojosef: install it. right-click and select "Request Install"09:11
Jucatothen click on "Preview Changes"  in the toolbard to make sure that it's going to be installed and nothing will be removed09:11
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Jucatothen click on Apply Changes09:11
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Kiongkuany ppl here knows how to use prozilla?09:18
Hobbseeyep09:18
paviGuys09:18
Jucatohehehe09:18
josefok  i got it alread09:18
Jucatoprozilla again... :-D09:18
paviI want Kubuntu source09:18
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Hobbseenice prozilla :)09:18
Jucatolol09:18
Hobbseepavi: apt-get source foo09:18
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KiongkuHobbsee: u know how to authenticate a dl with prozilla?09:19
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HobbseeKiongku: not off hand.  proz -h would though09:19
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paviwhere do I get kubuntu source so  that I can costumise kubuntu and create a localised KDE distro in telugu language  called Kswecha09:19
Kiongkuhmm09:19
paviguys check out09:19
paviwww.swecha.org09:19
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Jucatopavi: source for which part of Kubuntu?09:19
Hobbseepavi: archives.ubuntu.com09:19
KiongkuHobbsee: i have no idea how to use it09:19
HobbseeJucato: all of it, presumably09:20
pavitoltal kubuntu09:20
paviI wanna change all the font and language09:20
HobbseeKiongku: doesnt it say that on the site?  proz url in a console works for most things09:20
Jucatohm... there are more than 15,000 packages available in Kubuntu....09:20
paviatleast 100 important man09:20
HobbseeJucato: you can take the distro and make a custom distro based off that.  or custom packages09:20
Hobbseepavi: google it.09:20
KiongkuHobbsee: i know the username/password.. but i have no idea how to write the command in console for it to accept09:20
pavioffice ,konqueror09:21
paviya will do man09:21
pavican any one tell me how do I make a localised distro out of kubuntu ?09:21
JucatoI don't think you need to compile Kubuntu in order to support different languages or fonts09:21
josefjucato i got installed already...09:21
Jucatojosef: now try playing an MP3 in Amarok again09:21
HobbseeKiongku: type man proz into a console09:22
Kiongkumanual?09:22
Hobbseeyeah09:22
Hobbseeoh wait, maybe you need to use wget with a user name and password09:22
Kiongkuhmm it says something vaguely09:23
Jucatoor, if there's a man page for proz/prozilla, you could "man:/proz" in Konqueror...09:23
pavijucato then what to do I dont wanna see english at all in my distro as far as possible09:23
KiongkuHobbsee: do u see the option -n?.. how should i write it09:23
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josefjucato there is no sound comming....09:23
HobbseeKiongku: not sure, i've not tried it.09:24
HobbseeKiongku: should be proz -n urllinkhere09:24
KiongkuHobbsee:  hehe ok09:24
Jucatojosef: but is it playing? I mean, it's not skipping the MP3 tracks?09:24
Hobbseei only use prozilla for downloading iso's, etc09:24
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josefjucato its skipping the mp3 tracks09:26
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Jucatojosef: in Amarok, go to Settings menu > Configure Amarok > Engines and make sure that it's using the xine Engine09:27
KiongkuHobbsee: oh well.. cant get it to work09:27
Kiongkulooks like i'll have to go to windows and use download accelerator09:28
josefjucato its using the xine in the engine09:29
Jucatojosef: ok, try restarting Amarok (quit, then launch it again)09:29
Kiongku!info prozgui09:30
ubotuPackage prozgui does not exist in any distro I know09:30
Kiongku!info prozilla09:30
ubotuPackage prozilla does not exist in any distro I know09:30
Kiongkuhmm09:30
Hobbseecant be packaged09:30
Kiongkui see09:30
KiongkuHobbsee: prozgui or prozilla?09:31
Hobbseeboth09:31
KiongkuHobbsee: ah?.. what version of prozgui09:31
josefjucato still the same09:31
Jucatohmm...09:31
Jucatoreally weird...09:32
HobbseeKiongku: all of them?09:32
KiongkuHobbsee: lol.. u using all of them :P?09:32
josefbut its know the playtime and the title.09:32
Hobbseehey cool!  it's GPL'd now09:32
Hobbseeit's in repos, too!09:33
Kiongku??09:33
Hobbseewait, no it's not09:33
JucatoHobbsee: please make up your mind... or at least it something :-D09:33
Hobbseeprozilla *isnt* in teh repos09:34
Jucato"eat something first..." ehehe09:34
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Hobbseehttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=117209:34
Kiongkuo009:34
Hobbseewhat the....09:34
Jucatohunger and starvation can cloud your judgment and make you do things...09:34
Hobbseehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=prozilla&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all09:35
Jucatowhich is what I'm feeling right now....09:35
Hobbseethis gets more and more bizarre...09:35
Kiongkulol09:36
Jucatook... you have stumbled upon one of that packages that suddenly disappear in more recent releases....09:36
Hobbseeindeed.  looks like it got removed from debian09:36
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josefjucato09:37
joseflibxine-extracodecs"09:37
josef[14:09]  <josef> ok wait09:37
Jucatolol09:37
Jucatojosef: I'm really not  sure what else to say... i fyou have libxine-extracodecs installed, by all means it should be working...09:38
KiongkuHobbsee.. bad.. bad... Jucato good person.. no eat09:38
Jucatolol09:38
Kiongkueat debian.. who removed prozilla09:38
josefok that my friend  i will ask mor info thanks alot....09:38
JucatoI'm not the healthiest dish around, I can assure you of that :-D09:38
Jucatojosef: really sorry09:38
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Kiongkulol09:38
HobbseeRemoved the following packages from unstable:09:39
Hobbsee  prozilla | 1:1.3.7.4-1 | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc09:39
HobbseeClosed bugs: 30882609:39
Hobbsee------------------- Reason -------------------09:39
HobbseeRoM; includes non-free code, obsolete, orphaned upstream09:39
Hobbseedrat.09:39
josefno  problem jucato you have already helping me with thing that i dont know...09:39
Hobbseei did remember that there was something with the licencing09:39
josefbye jucato09:39
Jucatobye josef! and good luck!09:39
josefthanks09:39
KiongkuRoM?09:39
Hobbseereasons of removal or something, i guess09:40
Hobbseei'm not terribly familiar with debian sutf09:40
Hobbsee*stuff09:40
Hobbseehttp://packages.qa.debian.org/p/prozilla.html09:40
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Hobbseedebian 30882609:42
HobbseeJucato: yes, pastebin, i know09:42
Jucatohuh?09:43
JucatoI was just whistling.. really...09:43
Jucatohttp://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/08/paris-hilton-tinkerbell-linux.html09:43
Jucatooops!09:43
Hobbsee[17:43]  <Ubugtu> Debian bug 308826 in ftp.debian.org "RM: prozilla -- RoM; includes non-free code, obsolete, orphaned upstream" [Normal,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/30882609:44
Hobbseeoh well09:44
Jucatowrong window...09:44
Kiongkulol?09:44
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Kiongkureally no commetns Jucato.. i'm not goign in tinkerbell anyway soon XD09:46
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Jucatolol09:46
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Kiongkuprozilla is bad O_O09:49
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Jucato^_^09:49
JucatoKGet is gooood09:49
Jucatolol09:49
Kiongkulol09:50
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mariociao  c' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi09:52
Jucato!it09:53
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:53
marionooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo09:53
Kiongkudo09:53
Kiongkucant limit Kget09:53
Jucato...09:53
Kiongku... using whole bandwidth09:53
Jucatolol!09:53
Jucatoerr..09:53
Jucatosorry.. wrong window again09:54
Kiongkuhmm?09:54
Kiongkutalking in offtopic?09:54
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Jucatono09:54
Jucatoin our local team09:55
Kiongkuoh09:55
Kiongkuhey Jucato where does Kget ut his file by default?09:55
Jucatout?09:55
Kiongku*put09:56
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JucatoKiongku: wherever you tell it to. it will ask you where you want to save a download09:56
Kiongkuhmm09:56
Kiongkui forgot where i said it09:56
Jucato??09:57
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dohello09:58
Kiongkuolleh09:58
yannux_hello09:58
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dosorry it is just test09:59
Jucatolol09:59
dohave a good day bye09:59
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josefJucato I restart the komputer and in kaffeine the mp3 is running  do you think if I reinstall amarok will fix the problem or not because i removed amarok already10:03
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Jucatojosef: probably. just reinstall amarok10:03
josefok thanks see you around10:03
pavijucato10:05
paviu there ?10:05
Jucatoyeah?10:05
pavianswer my query dude10:05
paviabt how to  translate the imp packages10:05
paviin kubuntu10:05
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Jucatopavi: I don't know how to translate packages, but there are people who are involved in internationalization/localization that might know about this10:06
JucatoI suggest yo take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com and search for "internationalization" or "translation"10:06
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paviok10:07
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Jucatopavi: you could also try to drop by #ubuntu-translators and ask there10:08
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paviok will go there10:11
pavithanks10:11
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josefjucato its working already....10:15
Jucatojosef: glad to hear that!10:15
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misieqhow can i grab a video with what i do on my desktop?10:18
josefjucato well thanks. well i have to try too use samba to connect my other computer do you have any advice for me10:19
Jucatojosef: I have no experience with samba and networking.. sorry10:19
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josefok no problem see you later  thanks10:20
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redondo81Hi boys, I have a problem mounting a partition fat32 on my linux, I mounted it, but I cannot write on it,do you know why?10:24
paviI can help10:25
paviu10:25
pavi] Its because10:25
paviu mounted it as a normal user10:25
redondo81thanks pavi10:25
paviu have to change the entries in a file10:25
pavicalled10:25
Jucatobye guys!! and gals!10:26
pavidude I will paste bin ok10:26
redondo81I dont undesrtand, how does it call?10:27
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redondo81pavi, can you help me again please?10:28
flaccidgui to turn on services for auto startup?10:29
paviya pls10:29
misieqredondo81: man fstab10:29
paviwait naa10:29
flaccidequiv. of redhat system-config-services ?10:29
redondo81ok, but I don't understand what I have to do?10:30
misieqyou have to add user or users option, don't remeber which10:30
redondo81I dont know how to enter in etc/fstab as root10:31
misieqsudo <youreditor> /etc/fstab10:31
misieqe.g. sudo mcedit /etc/fstab10:31
redondo81thanks10:32
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Diabolicredondo81: sudo goes for all operations you have to do as root.10:34
Diabolicredondo81: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo10:34
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redondo81thanks, I'll read it10:36
pavihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2222610:37
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|lostbyte|Hi guys :)10:38
|lostbyte|How is xgl on kde .4 ?10:39
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micmacHi all10:44
pavihi10:44
|lostbyte|anyone ?10:45
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|lostbyte|micmac, pavi hi :)10:45
pavihi lost bye10:46
|lostbyte|*lostbyte10:46
micmacWhen one install Kubuntu, is it possible to keep your current partitions? I mean I have a data partition that I'd like to keep untouched.10:47
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micmacs/install/installs10:47
misieqmicmac: yes, of course.10:47
flaccidmicmac: yeah np10:47
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misieqwhy would you think it is not?10:47
flaccidheh i still got a fedora lvm on this notebook to get rid off10:48
micmacSo the kubuntu installer doesn't force repartionioning?10:48
misieqno10:48
flaccidhell no :)10:48
micmacmisieq, I just want to ask the question first, rather than get myself into trouble :)10:48
flaccidit presents easy to understand options without risk of accident10:48
flaccidsweet as10:48
micmacSounds charming ;) Thanks10:48
misieqwhy would a system make you lose data? i wouldn't deal with this system then..10:49
flaccidwindows installer can sometimes assist you in making mistakes.10:50
misieqflaccid, ;P never happened to me10:50
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flaccidit has to me10:50
misieqtoo bad :(10:50
flaccidi think i had different expectations of the flow10:50
flaccidhard to remember what when i'm drunik10:51
misieqthat would explain much ;)10:51
flaccidi wish it did10:51
flaccidi think maybe its older install of windows like 2k or before10:52
misieqperhaps that's why i never let windows to repartition my disk, i always make it with external program and install windows on prepared part...10:52
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flaccidyeaah thats true10:52
flaccidi think its something to do with leaving the other partitions intact, but it lies10:52
flaccideither that or just bad wording10:52
misieqi wonder how they are going to solve windows image-based install in vista ;)10:53
flaccidits bad to be literal when m$ is being used10:53
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misieqperhaps they'd like to pwn your whole hdd ;)10:53
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flaccidhehe yeah10:53
flaccidwindows image-based install in vista?10:53
misieqyeah, not heard?10:54
flaccidnegative10:54
misieqwait a sec10:54
micmacI guess I'll just make a backup of everything and give Kubuntu a go then :)10:54
micmacCan I choose lilo over grub?10:55
misieqmicmac: kubuntu WON'T touch your partitions unless you LET IT10:56
micmacNo, I mean I know lilo already but I never dealt with grub. Would be easier for me.10:56
misieqflaccid: here you go: http://www.apcstart.com/site/dwarne/2006/07/773/inside-vistas-new-image-based-install10:56
misieqgrub is whole lot easier10:56
misieqand it has nice graphics (at least in suse :( )10:56
micmacMmh, ok10:56
micmac:) I don't care much about graphics.10:57
micmacAh, we'll see10:57
micmacI hope :-)10:57
misieqmicmac: that's kinda like grub: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=637&slide=2610:58
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flaccidgrub should be easy as10:59
misieqi mean it is grub with sth like a _video_ here but that's installation only, later you get the screen without all the hellos10:59
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flaccidlilo seemed wierd for me10:59
micmac:) I rather have a blank screen with lots of text output scroling by :-)10:59
misieqthat's no problem. you just have to turn off the "splash"11:00
misieqas it will limit tex display and present you with some eyecandy bootloader that m$ couldn't do ;)11:01
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bioticprohello, I switched the engine from xine to gstreamer, and now kaffeine won't launch, how do I change the engine back?11:01
misieqsettings -> engine11:02
misieqoh... kaffeine won't launch?11:02
misieqthen you have to remove/rename ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine i guess to restore defaults11:03
micmacAh, getting to your first install of a new Linux disto is always an experience :-)11:03
misieqbioticpro: or ~/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc11:04
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misieqi have some really good feelings about suse, too bad it uses rpm-s :(11:04
bioticpromisieq: cool, that worked great :)11:04
misieqi miss sysinfo: in konqueror, search in k-menu and generally all this robustness11:05
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misieqbioticpro: np11:05
bioticproPCLinuxOS is good distro that uses rpm... uses apt and synaptic to manage them11:05
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IKEA`hrm...11:05
flaccidyou can do apt-rpm on any distro11:05
misieqi heard some good about pclinuxos too... i was told it is a system for lazy ones, once set-up it goes for ever and ever ;P11:06
misieqwhat'd you think about mepis? it's debian-ish too, right?11:06
_lupinesuse is not good :(11:07
misieqflaccid: do you have any experience with deltarpms?11:07
misieq_lupine: why so?11:07
flaccidmisieq: nope11:07
misieqi think deltarpms could be only alternative to debs when speaking about rpms11:08
bioticpromisieq: pclinuxos is very good, like the control center, better than yast by far11:08
misieqthese are like differential packs only for you existing base .rpm11:08
bioticpropclinuxos is like a slicker bugfree(mostly) version of Mandriva11:08
_lupineincredibly slow and pretty insecure (OOTB)11:08
bioticpromisieq: on other thing, kaffeine plays video on quicktime, but not audio, know how to fix?11:09
misieqperhaps you have to set up the engine...11:09
_lupinepost-install, I had to disable Novell's entire package management system and use 3rd-party alts. I also had to disable the SSH server that had been installed and activated without my knowledge...11:09
_lupine...plus, the installer is too opaque11:09
misieqthe installer is way to slow... especailly at the setting up part11:10
bioticpromisieq: I get audio from other video files, just not quicktime11:10
misieq!quicktime11:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:10
bioticpromisieq: I get quicktime audio with mplayer...  I have installed xineplugins and xinewin32 already11:11
_lupineoh, it went fast enough... just "too fast", at times. Like the hard-disc partitioning step11:11
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misieqbioticpro: do you have quicktime audio with xine?11:12
bioticpromisieq: no11:12
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misieqthen in xine you have to set up the engine11:13
misieqremeber to change the knwledge level in the main tab as it won't display you too much options by default11:13
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bioticpromisieq: I checked under codec path, seems fine, don't know what else to check11:16
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misieqcheck for default audio device11:17
misieqtry /dev/dsp11:17
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misieqgo in console and perform "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" and if you hear anything then you should set it as your def audio/mixer device11:18
misieqi have to go out to shop, bbl11:18
misieqjust in case someone was interested in my screenshots: mjaniszewski2.ovh.org/sreen1.png and screen2.png :)11:20
apokryphosdoesn't work11:21
misieqs/sreen1.png/screen1.png11:21
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apokryphoswaste of space, totally useless :D11:22
misieqi like my desktop clean :)11:22
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misieqi use katapult a lot11:22
bioticpromisieq: fixed xine/kaffeine issue11:22
misieqand think of yakuake too...11:22
apokryphoskatapult's good, but can't always use it yet11:22
misieqbioticpro: good for you, what was it then?11:22
apokryphosthat windeco drives me crazy too; bleh :P11:23
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misieqand i like my desktop to be an eyecandy ;)11:23
apokryphoslike superkaramba?11:23
apokryphosnice enough theme, but that stuff always gets old :D (and CPU-intensive)11:24
misieqsuperkaramba -> only the thnig on desktop. i think of tormso/conky11:24
apokryphosright11:24
misieqgotta go njow, bbl11:24
apokryphosadios11:24
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bioticpromisieq: I didn't have xine-faad installed, that fixed the audio for xine/kaffeine quicktime11:25
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buzsince i upgraded to kde 3.5.4 a few weeks ago i suffer of random kwin crashes...11:30
buzwhich is starting to get me fed up11:31
wasedai cannot boot Ubuntu with problem EXT3-fs error (device dm-0): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 1 not in group (block 0)....pivot_root:No such file or directory11:31
wasedai use Live cd Kubuntu and run fsck /dev/hda111:31
wasedahere is result of fdisk:11:33
waseda   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System11:33
waseda/dev/hda1   *           1           8       64228+  83  Linux11:33
waseda/dev/hda2               9        4870    39054015    5  Extended11:33
waseda/dev/hda5               9         130      979933+  82  Linux swap / Solaris11:33
waseda/dev/hda6             131        4870    38074018+  83  Linux11:33
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wasedastill cannot boot ubuntu, any idea?11:34
aliasfredunder the live cd, can you mount the fs on which the ubuntu boot ?11:34
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aliasfredmy guess is more a misconfigured grub or something wrong in the boot process11:35
aliasfredthan a issue with the fs itself11:35
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debwaseda: what is the content of the menu.lst in grub ?11:54
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nidal hi all, I have a linux samba server configured against windows Active Directory using winbind. I tried to create home folder on the fly using pam_mkhomefolder.so and it fails and doesn't allow anyone to login to the server at all11:55
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nidalfollowing error is logged in the linux server11:55
nidalsmbd[23673] :   smb_pam_error_handler: PAM: session setup failed : Permission denied11:55
nidalany one any idea ?11:55
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josefhello11:59
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josefdoes anybody know to get wine  and how to install11:59
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grotheskjosef: sudo apt-get install wine ?12:00
josefok thanks grothesk12:01
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eeoshi there. where are the gdlib for ubuntu? i cannot find them12:13
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phreakyshi12:16
phreakysi just tried to install jedit from the ubuntu guide, but that failed12:16
phreakysnow when i try to install other software with apt,ill get some error12:17
phreakyssomething like: jedit needs to be reinstalled, but no archive can be found12:17
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phreakysany idea to solve it?12:17
phreakysi used dpkg12:17
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cobrashi...i have a problem with kubuntus update.I always get this errors "Could not connect to..." "Failed to fetch.."  "W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead." i am newbie plz help..12:26
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atidemhello12:26
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phreakyscheck your sourcelist cobras12:27
phreakyssudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:27
phreakysthen sudo apt-get update12:28
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cobrasphreakys: thanx but i have checked it12:29
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redondo81Can anyone help me to configure /etc/fstab to mount a partition e permit to my user to write on it and not only as root?12:30
redondo81can you help me please?12:32
redondo81Is thare anyone?12:32
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redondo81can anyone help me to mount a partition?12:33
atidemredondo81: use the 'Disk & Filesystems" manager in 'System Settings' - it's really simple and intuitive12:35
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wasedadeb:12:35
waseda## ## End Default Options ##12:35
wasedatitle           Encrypted Ubuntu12:35
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wasedakernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/mapper/hda6 ro quiet splash12:36
wasedainitrd          /initrd.img.new12:36
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wasedatitle           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-38612:36
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wasedakernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/mapper/hda6 ro quiet splash12:36
wasedainitrd          /initrd.img-2.6.10-5-38612:36
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wasedaboot12:36
wasedatitle           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386 (recovery mode)12:36
phreakysomfg12:36
phreakysthat ubuntu guide crashed my apt12:37
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misieqif i have kde installed from kubuntu repositories and i have kde-dev packages, can i compile metabar? or can i build .deb to use with dpkg, or do i have to rebuild whole kde?12:45
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Fille-LTHHi12:46
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misieqhi12:46
Fille-LTHI was wondering if I could draw myself an Kubuntu-OS-tan?12:46
Fille-LTHCould I draw the name and logo?12:47
Fille-LTHOr should I ask someone specific?12:47
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misieqFille-LTH: to merge it to kubuntu release?12:49
misieqot just for yourself?12:50
Fille-LTHa drawing to draw on my site12:50
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Fille-LTHfor myself / public viewing12:50
misieqyou ask about copyrights?12:50
Fille-LTHyes12:50
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Fille-LTHIve atm mailed the trademarks@ubuntu.com and asked them too12:50
misieqwell, i guess you can use it freely, since almost all linux projects are gpl12:50
Fille-LTHI suspect they can answer it :)12:51
misieqmaybe check on wikipedia?12:51
misieqor goofle for kubuntu logos12:51
misieqhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Kubuntu-logo.svg12:51
Fille-LTHyes I know, I just want to know from the Kubuntu dev-team if its awwwwright for me to use it for my OS-tan v.12:51
Fille-LTH^^12:51
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misieqthey say it is public domain on this wiki page12:52
misieqso you can do whatever you want12:52
Fille-LTHwhat does public domain mean?12:52
Fille-LTHthat I can freely use the Kubuntu logo however I please?12:53
Fille-LTHfor more info on OS-tans: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os-tan12:53
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misieqyes, but be sure to check also here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kubuntu_Logo.svg12:53
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misieqgot confused now....12:54
misieqwait a sec12:54
Fille-LTHmisieq?12:54
Fille-LTH:)12:54
misieqif u'll stick to this logo here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Kubuntu-logo.svg you can use it freely12:54
Fille-LTHok12:55
Fille-LTHbut if I want to draw it then :P12:55
misieqhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain12:55
misieqyou want to draw it? well... i guess that all the people at kde-look.org don't ask about the permission..12:55
Fille-LTHyea I dont want to get sued ;P12:56
misieqthey just draw and since nobody is against that then it's allright12:56
misieqif you would like to use it in some porn or sth else, well.. you'd better ask then ;)12:56
misieqbut in other cases i wouldn't bother12:57
Fille-LTHhehe12:57
Fille-LTHno worry12:57
Fille-LTH:P12:57
Fille-LTHI dont think ppl who draw that ask either so12:57
Fille-LTH;P12:57
misieqhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/FindPage?action=fullsearch&titlesearch=1&value=logo12:58
misieq!deb12:59
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)12:59
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misieq!deb-src01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about deb-src - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
DiuneimamaHi everyone. Im new over here, and i need help about kubuntu thing :) anyone can help me?01:12
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eeoshi there. I cannot start apache2 on kubuntu for amd6401:13
misieqDiuneimama: what's your problem?01:13
misieqeeos: and yours?01:13
eeosi am using the system services01:13
eeosmisieq: i cannot start apache201:13
misieq/etc/init.d/apache2 start?01:14
eeosmisieq. everything seems in order01:14
misieqany error?01:14
eeosmisieq it does not work and does not return any error01:14
misieqdid you configure it properly?01:14
eeosmisiq it is driving me mad, i have tried all possible commands and configuration i know01:14
misieq*have you configured01:14
DiuneimamaMisieq I would like to know about kubuntu ? if i install kubuntu from windows. is my windows file will be overwrite or deleted?01:14
eeosmisieq i did everything i knew, including following documentation and readme file01:15
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eeosmisieq it does not even return and error to dbug01:15
misieqDiuneimama: windows is not a file. you may mean a prtition. no, it won't be overwritten unless you specifiacally say so01:15
eeosmisieq i am using apache2 prefork01:16
misieqeeos: check whether it actually runs "ps ax | grep httpd|01:16
misieqeeos: check whether it actually runs "ps ax | grep httpd"01:16
eeosmisieq yes i ave already done that, it is not running01:16
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eeosmisieq /etc/init.d/apache2 start should at least return and error01:16
misieqDiuneimama: and as far as i know you can't install ubuntu from windows, you can boot to live cd and then install it01:16
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DiuneimamaMisieq i now currently dunhave different partition. how do i install kubuntu in a different partition01:17
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misieqtail /var/log/apache2/error.log ?01:17
DiuneimamaMisieq. i have a kubuntu cd.01:17
misieqDiuneimama: you have windows on ntfs or fat?01:17
eeosmisieq it does not exist so the naswer tot tail command is empty01:17
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DiuneimamaMisieq ntfs01:18
misieqeeos: and "apache2ctl start" ?01:18
eeosmisieq it does not exist so the *answer *to *the tail command is empty01:18
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alexiconanyone know an app that lets you map characters to the keyboard?01:19
misieqDiuneimama: then you have to resize your partition with some tool that supports ntfs (like partiton magic) and create a free space _AFTER_ your windows partition01:19
misieq!xkb01:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xkb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:19
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misieqalexicon: it's xkb01:19
alexiconhrm ok01:19
alexiconthanks01:19
qbuntuDiuneimama: just boot from cd and follow the steps "use free space on windows partition"01:19
misieqqbuntu: ubuntu would install on ntfs?01:20
christianphi all01:20
eeosmisieq if i use sudo apache2ctl start, the it starts. grrrrrrrrrrr!01:20
misieqhaven't known that... i like it :)01:20
qbuntudont really know.. ;)01:20
misieqeeos: so problem solved?01:20
christianpi have problems in burning dvd with my TravelMate290 with k3b and kubuntu (no problem with Ubuntu dapper drake with k3b installed)01:21
eeosmisieq partially, I have lost hours because i followed the documentation, and it is not the first time. *$%&QQ!01:21
misieqeeos: but it works now?01:21
christianpk3b says: fail to change write speed and burnng fails01:21
christianpwhat's the matter?01:22
eeosmisieq yes it does. it does not start from system settings though.01:22
eeosmisieq thanks a lot for your help!01:22
misieqchristianp: i can't tell you exactly what to do, but try to get some info (or try to burn sth) with cdrdao/growiso...01:22
misieqor cdrecord01:23
misieqeeos: stop apache and do the following:01:23
misieqeeos: tail -f /var/log/messages01:23
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misieqeeos: and in separate console: /etc/init.d/apache2 start01:23
eeosmisieq done01:24
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misieqand what does tail say?01:24
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kutanWhat's a good MP3 player?01:26
misieqamarok01:26
eeosmisieq here it is http://phpfi.com/14757801:26
misieq!amarok01:26
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org01:26
kutanHmmm I have it01:26
kutanBut when I play an mp3 it skips it01:26
misieq!mp301:26
kutanWhat plugins do I need? =\01:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:26
kutan..o01:26
eeosmisieq when i  /etc/init.d/apache2 start in  separate console, nothing happens01:26
misieqeeos: :/ actually no info about apache01:27
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eeosmisieq i know01:27
misieqand has apache2/error.log appeared?01:28
misieqdo you sudo /etc/... ?01:28
eeosmisieq course01:28
eeosmisieq of course01:29
misieqno idea then... you'll have to check the /etc/init.d/apache2 itself or just use apache2ctl01:29
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misieqgotta go now01:29
misieqbbl01:29
christianpmisieq: i have the same problem installing gnomebaker:01:30
christianpExecuting 'mkisofs -gui -V disco dati GnomeBaker -A GnomeBaker -p Christian Pizzuto -iso-level 3 -l -R -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points video_ts=/home/christian/vacanze2006/cd1/video_ts | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'01:30
christianpINFO:UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale settings.01:30
christianpAssuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem,01:30
christianpuse -input-charset to override.01:30
christianp:-( Failed to change write speed: 2117->270001:30
eeosmisieq thanks01:31
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kutanKubuntu did it again01:34
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kutanI just installed audacity and it's not on my k menu01:35
D4m4gehi01:35
D4m4gehas the win32codecs paquet been removed?01:35
kutanand I KNOW if I add it manually, the manual one is gonna be on there along with the one that should have been on there before.01:35
D4m4gei cant find it with apt-cache search01:35
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fdovingkutan: try to run 'kbuildsycoca' from konsole.01:37
fdovingkutan: that will update the menus and such.01:37
kutanalright cool cause I'm too lazy to manually add an icon and then remove it.01:37
rjbwhy would adept want to remove kdelibs-bin from my system??01:38
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alexiconis there a graphical listener for xkb01:44
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angelakihello01:45
h3sp4wnrjb: Not needed if you are updating to kde 3.5.401:45
angelakiwho can help me with wine and ie6?01:45
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rjbh3sp4wn: you mean..?01:47
rjbthat the package is no longer used?01:47
h3sp4wnrjb: If you have updated kde - it is no longer used01:47
rjbok. but i followed through the update on my laptop, and now handling of removable media seems to be broken.01:48
rjbin konq, when i hit "remove securely" from the right click menu, the media is not unmounted.01:49
rjbi need to go to a term and type sudo umount ...01:50
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rjb(maybe the menu item has a different label in english, i use a localized version)01:51
h3sp4wnrjb: I never use any gui stuff for that01:51
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rjbh3sp4wn: well, it used to work great until 3.5.401:52
h3sp4wnrjb: Well don't use backports then01:53
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angelakiwho can help me with wine and ie6?02:00
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|lostbyte|Hi..02:06
|lostbyte|Where is the disk.cache option ?02:06
jjholti have a volume control on my notebook in normal ubuntu I could asign the it actually control the volume any way to that in kubuntu?02:06
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Lynourekeep does not run with kdesu? Is there any graphical backup program that does?02:18
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h3sp4wnLynoure: I am going to try ifolder at some point in the near future (but it is probably a complete overkill - being able to just connect via a vpn and get any file will be good though)02:20
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Lynoureh3sp4wn: Ok, let us know how it worked02:21
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diuneimamahi i need help in the process of installing kubuntu. anyone can help?02:26
phreakyshi02:26
diuneimamahi there :)02:26
diuneimamacan u help?02:27
phreakysjust follow instructions and ull be fine02:27
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diuneimamaerm.. im in step 5 of 602:27
phreakyseasiest is to install from an empty nonpartioned hd02:27
diuneimamai dunwan to delete my windows02:27
phreakysah02:27
diuneimamacurrently i dun have another partition02:27
diuneimamawhich one do i choose?02:28
diuneimamais it resize ?02:28
phreakysi guess you should use partition magic to split your partition02:28
misieqwhat options do u have?02:28
misieqis it ntfs?02:28
phreakysno linux uses ext302:28
diuneimamaoption 1 resize scsi102:28
misieqi believe he said he has windows and i don't know windows that would install on ext3...02:29
diuneimamaoption2 erase entire disk scsi102:29
phreakysthat could be risky for your data02:29
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phreakysow, no02:29
diuneimamaoption3 manually edit partition table02:29
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gamxxhow to add fvwm to kdm? :|02:29
kutanWhen I first installed kubuntu I used the option to use all of the extra space on my harddrive02:29
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phreakysi suggest you first make a full backup02:29
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diuneimamakutan its it work?02:29
misieqif you want to preserve your data you should resize your partitions to create free space (preferably after windows part)02:30
ryanakcaHow do you record your desktop session? Like into a low quality movie?02:30
misieqand later let kubuntu use that free space as it wishes02:30
diuneimamahmm ok.. i will choose option 102:30
kutanUh02:30
kutanWell when I did use all of the extra space, it worked fine02:30
kutanexcept for the fact that windows only had 800 megs left to work with =P02:30
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diuneimamaok :) thanks kutan02:31
kutanI try02:31
diuneimamaerm but.. below that02:31
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diuneimamathere is a new partition size .. do i nid to adjust the percentage of it? kutan02:31
kutano_o Well I didn't use the option for manually editing the partition table02:32
BTRHi, how do i configure my network-device?02:32
kutanthere was an option for me to use all of the extra space on my harddrive02:32
diuneimamayup kutan the option u choose was option 1 right?02:32
[GuS] BTR, in system settings...02:32
phreakysi hope that doesnt mess up windows for you02:32
diuneimama:)02:32
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kutanEhm... I don't know for sure, don't rely on me, I'm a semi-newbie. :o02:33
kutanask a pro02:33
diuneimama:)02:33
BTR[GuS] : i didn't seem to find that program in kubuntu, can i write anything in the commandline that opens the system settings?02:33
kutanmisieq looks like he knows what he's doing :D02:33
[GuS] In K-menu you have Systemsettings02:33
[GuS] or just type: systemsettings02:34
diuneimamaerm.. how much space do i need for the installation of kubuntu?02:34
BTRok, will try again:) thanks [GuS] !.)02:34
gamxxhow to add fvwm to kdm? :|02:34
misieqdiuneimama: it depends on what you want to install02:34
diuneimamaim installing kubuntu02:34
[GuS] i think he refer to standar installation02:34
misieqdiuneimama: what do you want to have?02:34
[GuS] or default...02:34
diuneimamaits say not enuf space02:34
diuneimamakubuntu 6.06?02:35
misieqbut what packages?02:35
ryanakcagamxx: normally? you install fvwm and it's automaticly added02:35
misieqany services?02:35
[GuS] diuneimama, how much space are you usinn for it?02:35
misieq2,5 should be safe for default02:35
diuneimamagus i m now have 5gb free02:35
[GuS] is more than enought diuneimama02:35
diuneimamaits says not enuf space to install02:35
diuneimamaXD02:35
misieqyou have to mark this 5GB partition as "/"02:36
[GuS] yes...02:36
diuneimamahow to mark?02:36
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[GuS] and don'r forget the swap...02:36
misieqor i you have this free space i believe there should be option to let kubuntu-oinstaller to use free space as it needs02:36
[GuS] after partitioning diuneimama  you will have those options02:36
diuneimamaya02:36
diuneimamathe 1st option to let me to choose02:36
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diuneimamaresize scsi102:37
diuneimamabut i clcik continue it says not enough space :S02:37
[GuS] why you don't do it by hand?02:37
diuneimamahow?02:37
misieqwhat do you have now?02:37
diuneimamasorry , im a noob XD02:37
[GuS] is the last option when you start to prepare the disk...02:37
[GuS] in the installation process02:38
diuneimamaim in step 5 of 602:38
[GuS] ops02:38
misieqwhat disk and partition sizes?02:38
[GuS] to late :P02:38
diuneimama3rd option says manually edit partition table02:38
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[GuS] yea02:38
[GuS] that one diuneimama02:38
diuneimamaclick on that?02:38
beligumHi everybody, I'm in the process of creating some promotion-Kubuntu video's for captorial.com, any suggestions?02:38
[GuS] yep02:38
diuneimamaok02:38
diuneimamai try now02:38
diuneimamathanks02:38
ryanakcagamxx: if it doesn't work... ping me and I'll guide you threw02:38
misieqbeligum: XGL! :D02:38
ryanakcaHow do you record your desktop session? Like into a low quality movie?02:39
beligumyes, but I haven't installed it yet, here02:39
ryanakcabeligum: Compiz02:39
[GuS] so.. make primary partition.... not all the 5gb... rememver you nee for swap02:39
[GuS] remember*02:39
beligumusing ScreenKast02:39
beligum(I'm the author of both)02:39
diuneimamaerm.. so how much i roughly needs gus02:39
[GuS] diuneimama, has much is you ram,?02:40
beligumhmmm, XGL and Compiz, basically, the fun stuff :)02:40
misieqdiuneimama: 2,5GB is enough for default, you can add more02:40
gamxxryanakca: doesn't work :|02:40
misieqbeligum: you can add basket, some kde stuff to show how things work02:40
diuneimamagus and misieq i have 5gb free only02:40
misieqlike preview in this yellow pop-up when you hover over .jpg02:40
diuneimamaram?02:40
[GuS] diuneimama, yes02:41
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[GuS] fopr calculate the swap02:41
diuneimama51202:41
[GuS] ok02:41
h3sp4wnbeligum: Are you also the author of libinstrudeo ? - It cannot build on dapper without loads of messing around02:41
[GuS] for swap is need the double size of your ram.. not not when you have enought ram02:41
[GuS] so 512mb for swap will be ok02:41
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ryanakcabeligum: you wrote ScreenKast?02:41
beligumyep, I 'm02:41
beligumyes, I have :)02:42
diuneimamagus, thanks02:42
[GuS] just create a primary partition of 4.5GB02:42
beligumhmmm, there are packages of libinstrudeo: instrudeo.bpower2.com/packages02:42
[GuS] then extended, and logical partition of the rest02:42
diuneimamai still loading inside of the option302:42
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misieqbeligum: and is there any X app that could capture video? or how does screenkast work? i mean efficiency?02:42
gamxxryanakca: i estedt reinstall fvwm, still not working02:42
TheInfinityquestion: is there any way to install the RTL8111B network driver without getting all packages which you need for gcc4 and then compiling the sourced from the realtek site?02:42
beligumWell, ScreenKast is a real capturing program02:43
diuneimamagus, i will try :) its slow XD02:43
[GuS] ok02:43
[GuS] with pc is?02:43
ryanakcagamxx: sudo apt-get install fvwm fvwm-crystal fvwm-gnome fvwm-icons02:43
beligumCurrently, I'm improving the export-routines and adding video-editing02:43
gamxxok...02:43
ryanakcagamxx: wait, you did that?02:43
diuneimamapc is?02:43
misieqbeligum: where do i get it?02:43
gamxxonly sudo apt-get install fvwm02:43
TheInfinityproblem: no other network card and gcc4 seems not to be on the kubuntu AMD64 cd02:44
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ryanakcabeligum: got a link to the sources? I'm willing to _attempt_ packaging it02:44
beligumhttp://captorials.com/index.php?cmd=software02:44
beligumI already made packages, see the link02:44
gamxxryanakca: only sudo apt-get install fvwm02:44
beligumbtw, version 0.1.3 is coming up02:44
beligumI'm looking for people who know how to make some cool promotion-videos, see captorials for examples02:45
beligumI'm not saying the ones there are cool, but it's a start :)02:45
[GuS] yeah diuneimama wich computer you have02:45
diuneimamaGus : im using toshiba02:46
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[GuS] ok02:46
diuneimamaa lame laptop XD02:46
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ryanakcabeligum: have you seen the suse kmenu promo? it's SWEET!02:46
[GuS] ok02:46
Jucatoit's SUPER sweet. :-D02:47
beligumno, do you have a link?02:47
ryanakcayep, just a secf02:47
ryanakcahttp://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html     http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/228302:47
Jucatoheheh! that was quick02:47
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ryanakcabeligum: did you get libinstrudeo threw apt? or is it a "need-to-package so that this other package can be packaged"?02:48
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beligumwell, libinstrudeo is actually the backend of screenKast02:49
beligumI wrote both, but split them up for flexibility02:50
beligumBTW, indeed, super sweet, that video02:50
beligumShould be possible (and great) on captorials too02:50
beligumDid novell design that functionality?02:51
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ryanakca"As previously blogged, openSUSE 10.2 will have a redesigned KDE start menu created by the KDE and usability team at SUSE..."02:52
ryanakcaI'm guessing yes02:52
ryanakcabeligum: kk02:52
beligumvery nice, but seems to be eating CPU for breakfast02:52
ryanakcabeligum: mind if I go ahead and package the library?02:53
beligumor GPU02:53
beligumno problem, go ahead02:53
beligumfor what distribution?02:53
beligumbecause I already have specfiles and debian dirs ready in SVN trunk02:54
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beligumbtw, are there people here with some gstreamer knowledge?02:54
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angelakiwho can help me with wine and ie6?02:57
angelakiwho knows how i can add a missing dll in wine?02:57
kutanWell... I have one question for you angelaki, and don't get offended02:57
kutanWhy the hell would you want to install IE in the first place? >_>02:58
Jucatokutan: I could think of one (or two) possible reason/s, but that would be my reason...02:58
angelakibecause the pc has kubuntu and my bank work only with ie02:58
kutanOkay02:59
kutanWell, unfortunately I have no idea, sorry for the inconvenience.02:59
beligumI do02:59
beligumsomebody wrote a script for that02:59
beligumsec02:59
angelakinever mine02:59
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angelakisome day i bomb my bank02:59
Jucatothere's also a program called ie4linux I think.. I forgot the name...03:00
beligumcheck this: http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html03:00
angelakii have try it but i cant install the plugins03:00
Jucatoaah03:00
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Jucatoehehe! mornin Hawkwind!03:02
HawkwindJucato: Mornin it is :)03:02
kutanUgh... I've been up all night03:03
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gan|y|medhi03:08
gan|y|medi wanna use sondkonverter to extract an ac stream of a music video and convert it to ogg vorbis. it seems to recognize the stream, but when i click on start it just does nothing. any ideas?03:10
phreakyshi03:10
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beligumbtw, I'm currently working with ubuntuvideo.com, so you can win 100$ for your captorials.com video ;)03:11
beligumJohn asked me to spread the word03:12
grothesk|afkD4m4ge: w32codecs03:13
Jucatohehehe03:13
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gan|y|medokay, any ideas what program i could use to extract the audio stream from a video file?03:14
Hawkwindgan|y|med: audacity or avidemux possibly ?03:15
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gan|y|medthx03:15
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linux_galoreone question, does kubuntu have a unstable download page03:17
Jucatolinux_galore: if you could wait for a few more minutes or hours, Edgy Eft Knot 2 will be released03:17
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linux_galoreJucato: aaah I'll wait03:19
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linux_galoreIm thinking of doing a talk on KDE, Ive been using it since the 1.* days03:24
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gan|y|med ok, sth. strange is going on here. i use soundkonverter: i choose ogg and get an ac3 file. i choose flac and get an ogg vorbis file. why that???03:25
reeedhello folks03:25
Jucatolinux_galore: since KDE 1? wow!03:25
reeedhow do I make X start without "-notcp" ?03:25
linux_galoreJucato: yeah it was total crap too lol03:25
Jucatoyeah, I've heard03:26
ryanakcabeligum: for edgy03:26
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beligumah, I see03:27
beligumyeah, sure, go ahead03:27
reeedhow do I make X start without "-notcp" ? or, how do I let remote clients connect to my X server ?03:27
beligumyou want to check out SVN trunk though03:28
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linux_galorereeed: I just ssh into the machine and run the X app03:30
reeedlinux_galore: but my local X server runs with ''notcp' and blocks the connection03:31
reeed:-(03:31
reeedi can't figure out a way to remove that option.03:31
linux_galorereeed: Im often on the move around the place and I login to my central machine and just run the email client03:31
reeedso I thought maybe there is a potentially safer way to let remote clients connect03:31
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kutanCan someone tell me why the sound for videos on www.youtube.com doesn't work?03:32
kutanI'm sure it's only me =\03:32
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soulriderits you03:33
soulriderbut flash has some problems on linux03:33
Jucatoouch... that answer must have hurt...03:33
soulriderso even if you manage to playt he sounds03:33
Jucatobut yea.. it's a Flash on Linux issue...03:33
soulrideriots most likely it wont be in synch with the video :(03:33
kutan>_<03:33
xwolf-yeap03:33
soulriderAdobe doesnt like us :(03:34
xwolf-out of synch happens03:34
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Jucatosoulrider: true... they're gonna delay (or probably cancel...) Flash 9 for Linux Alpha03:34
linux_galorereeed: look in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc03:34
soulrider:/03:34
soulriderdamn03:34
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insanekaneJucato: how do you know >03:34
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insanekane?03:34
xwolf-what does -rc stand for?03:34
soulriderJucato: do you work or something? because youre ALLWAYS here! :P03:35
xwolf-kdmrc, xserverrc..03:35
Jucatoi don't know about the "r" but the "c" probably stands for config03:35
linux_galore<--- has flash 903:35
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Jucatolinux_galore: natively? on Linux?03:35
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linux_galoreJucato: using wine for a few weeks now, works fine03:36
soulriderusing wine probably03:36
Jucatolol03:36
soulrider:)03:36
soulriderwrite a tut on how to get it running03:36
JucatoI think I said Flash 9 "for Linux"03:36
soulriderno, you didnt: P03:36
soulrider[10:35]  <linux_galore> <--- has flash 903:36
soulrider:P03:36
linux_galoreonly hard part was trying to stop the macromedia download server redirecting me to the flash 7 linux installer03:36
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kutanSo I just need to install flash with WINE? instead of the linux version?03:36
Jucatosoulrider: "I" said it..03:36
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Jucatohttp://www.webpronews.com/expertarticles/expertarticles/wpn-62-20060831NoFlash9AlphaForLinux.html03:37
soulrideri et so confused on irc sometimes :P03:37
JucatoI stand corrected. they're just not going to show us Alpha... but straight to Beta...03:37
Jucatowhenever that is...03:37
linux_galorekutan: well there are two ways, easy way is grab codeweavers crossover of bittorent or install it with wine and winetools03:38
kutan...buh03:38
linux_galorecodeweavers will download and install flash 9 for you03:38
JucatoI've heard that installing Firefox for XP on wine and installing Flash through Firefox works?03:38
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linux_galoreJucato: I didnt install IE03:39
Jucatolinux_galore: I think I said "Firefox"03:39
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Jucatoand I'm actually trying to confirm if that "solution" also works...03:39
linux_galoreJucato: yes but I didnt have to use IE to get the installer03:39
JucatoI used Konqueror to download the Firefox installer for XP...03:40
kutan"Download CrossOver Office Standard Trial for Linux"?03:40
Jucatothen used Wine to install Firefox...03:40
linux_galorekutan: no the pro version03:40
linux_galorekutan: http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=codeweavers03:41
kutanAh, I was about to say "I have to buy it"03:41
Jucatolol...03:41
kutanBut just so everyone knows03:41
kutanI'm not going to illegally download this product03:42
Jucatoyes, the "real" thing is not free03:42
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linux_galorethe shock version has all the variations for every distro03:42
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kutanCould it be just me or does it say on the site that the torrent has no seeders? =\03:43
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linux_galorekutan: this one is still active http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3461187/Codeweavers.CrossOver.Office.Professional.v5.0.1-SHOCK03:44
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kutanThe Pirate Bay Kicks ass03:44
kutanBut it seems the mininova one was lying on the website, there are actually 3 seeders03:45
linux_galorekutan: 14 on the pirate bay one03:45
kutanoooh03:46
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recon0I'm trying to install 6.06 LTS on a i386, but the install CD gets to the point where there is a splash screen and reads "Making LiveCD user", then the splash disappears, and the text "Uncompressing linux...OK, booting the kernel" appears. After that, it just seems to freeze.03:54
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Diuneimamaneed help in qtparted03:55
Diuneimamaanyone there?03:55
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tictricI just can't get the system to print to a printer connected to a windows system. My various experiments with the printer wizard to set up a remote windows printer fail.04:06
tictricWhat's the secret?04:07
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raulhow to regain kdm after adding gnome in kubuntu ?ive lost it after installing ubuntu-desktop through apt cdrom add04:07
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Jucato!pastebin > Jucato04:08
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JucatoI wonder if one day they will make "middle-click = close tab" a default in Kubuntu...04:12
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PawbaHardware acceleration isn't working under ubuntu for me.  I've installed the latest ATI drivers (from ATI), and mesa3d.  Chromium, etc, still runs terribly.  Ideas?04:14
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skavengeis 1.4.2 amarok stable? any problems for anyone?04:15
linux_galoreskavenge: works fine04:16
Jucatoworks fine here too04:16
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skavengecool thnx guys04:16
linux_galorePawba: did you edit the xorg.conf file04:16
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Pawbalinux_galore: The ATI install tool did that.04:18
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kutanoy04:19
kutan37 minutes left for crossover04:19
linux_galorePawba: did you check04:20
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PawbaI will now. :)04:20
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PawbaAll the sections have fglrx listed.04:21
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h3sp4wnYou will need to blacklist the fglrx from the restricted modules - and probably build the kernel module with module assistant (the module will not be for the dapper security updated kernel)04:23
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Pawbaer04:26
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PawbaI got fglrx from ati, and the kernel already has module assist.04:26
PawbaThe ATI drivers are working (cos my tv outs and dual head work)04:27
PawbaBut what is the mesa indirect ?04:28
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h3sp4wnmeans the kernel module is not working04:33
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Linux_Galorejust my IRC client to konversation ver 1.004:37
Jucato??04:37
Linux_Galorejust updated my IRC client to konversation ver 1.004:37
Jucatoaaah04:37
Jucatoehehe04:37
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Pawbahm04:38
ZeroTretaalguem que fale portugues ai pra mim ajudar04:38
Linux_Galoreworks pretty well04:38
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PawbaNext silly question...  Amarok/Movie Player report that they don't have the codec to play generally anything.  Where do you find the codecs for the players in the repositories?04:40
kutanAnyone know about javascript injections?04:41
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Linux_GaloreAmarok isnt a movie player04:41
Linux_Galorefor starters04:41
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skavengePawba: under restricted formats on the wiki see:04:41
kutanI used it to watch a movie.04:41
skavenge!restrictedformats04:41
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:41
Linux_Galoreuse kaffeine for movies04:41
kutanOh wait04:41
kutannevermind04:41
kutanyeah04:42
kutangot them mixed up04:42
PawbaLinux_Galore: I meant Amarok/Movie Player as in two different programs.  :P04:42
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kutanand omfg Linux_Galore, I got to 99.57% and it stalled.04:43
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Linux_GalorePawba: add the server to your repo list and then just use the package manager to install the missing codecs04:43
Chuckby jumping to tracks in AMAROK it gives me errorcode: 127 /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory, but this directory exists, whats wrong?04:43
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PawbaWhat server?04:43
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skavengeuniverse/multiverse04:44
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Pawbahm..  I thought the days of rebuilding a kernel were gone.  yay04:45
Jucato!ntfs > Jucato04:45
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Chuckby jumping to tracks in AMAROK it gives me errorcode: 127 /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory, but this directory exists, whats wrong?04:46
ChuckAn Amarok Script needs ruby1.8, so I installed, but there no changes.04:47
skavengeis it in your path?04:47
Chuckwhat do you meen?04:47
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Linux_GalorePawba: heres a link that helps you knows what to put in the /etc/apt/sources.list  file http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:53
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Linux_Galorelots of howto's too on adding sources for extra media formats http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/multimedia/04:55
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Linux_GaloreIm off to bed04:57
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Jucatobye! good night!04:57
Linux_Galorebye folks04:57
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larson9999linux_galore?  now that's a great stripper name05:08
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BTRHey, i'am not able to read my NTFS drive, from within kubuntu, why is that?05:08
k31thhum... i need a bit of software to recive fax's on a modem and dump then to some sort of file? any recomends ?05:09
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BTRalso my network device doesnt recieve any ip, although i have tried to set the gateway, to the gateway used on this windows machine05:11
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Chuckdo you tryed to get on your ntfs drive as root?05:13
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BTRChuck: think so, im new to linux05:14
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Chucktry sudo konqueror in the konsole05:15
Jucato!ntfs05:15
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ChuckI thin kyou only can mount and write on ntfs as root.05:16
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Jucatoactually, no writing to ntfs05:16
Jucatoit's not recommended..05:16
Jucatodarn ubotu...05:16
Jucato!ntfs05:16
BTRhow do i login as root, in case i wasnt05:16
Chuckeven as root?05:16
Jucatoyes, even as root05:16
Chuckits not avaliable on ubuntu05:17
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:17
Chuckbut if you want, browse some wikis.05:17
Chuckmake it easy.05:17
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:17
Jucatorawr! ubotu's lagging05:17
Chuckchange your /etc/fstab05:17
BTRi will try, will be back later..  thanks!05:18
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BTRdoesnt work:s05:33
andi_:(05:34
BTRi just cant seem to get my network-device to work:|05:34
ChuckMh...05:34
Chuckwhat is the name of the Partition? hda...?05:35
BTRhdv05:35
BTRhdv205:35
BTRi got it mountet i think, but couldnt enable it05:35
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ChuckWhats the Message?05:36
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BTRSomething with it not being able to figure out what type it was, i think:|05:38
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dendohelp install f prot antivirus05:39
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BTRIf i just could go online from within kubuntu icould post the excact message05:40
dendohow05:41
ricky_dsHi, yesterday, an update brought libvisual for amarok on my computer, however, I still cannot use visual plugins with amarok, does anyone know what to do in order to make it work?05:41
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ChuckU cant get online???05:41
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dendoyes05:41
BTRChuck: no, my network device wont find the ip address05:41
ChuckDo you got dhcp enabled?05:42
BTRyes05:42
Chucktry a static IP05:42
ChuckDo you go online over a router?05:43
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: You around ?05:43
BTRbut that wouldnthelp? as i have my ip picked from my ISP with their DHCP05:43
BTRChuck: no, theres nothing between me and my isp05:43
Chuckmh.05:43
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ChuckI dont have any experience with those types.05:44
Chuckask around.05:44
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BTRi will:) thanks anyway Chuck:)05:44
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E-JeyHi05:49
ricky_dsHi, yesterday, an kubuntu online update brought libvisual for amarok on my computer, however, I still cannot use visual plugins with amarok, does anyone know what to do in order to make it work?05:49
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E-Jeywhere can I find this window decoration: http://www.polinux.upv.es/mozilla/imagenes/capturas/mozilla-firefox-konqueror.png05:49
HawkwindE-Jey: On kde-look.org maybe ?05:50
misieqi have .tar.gz source for some app, how do i create .deb package from it.05:52
misieqE-Jey: use gtk-qt engine05:52
Hawkwindmisieq: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5100305:52
Hawkwindmisieq: There is a how-to I have followed05:53
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misieqthanks :) as i can't install metabar from repo :( and the mentioned one is a bit old, there is new version :)05:53
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JucatoE-Jey: that's the Plastik window decoration05:55
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E-JeyJucato, I've select the plastik decorator but it looks different :?05:59
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JucatoE-Jey: ok hold on...05:59
JucatoI'm going to check again05:59
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JucatoE-Jey: it is Plastik. but the color scheme and some of the buttons are different from the defaults in Kubuntu06:01
misieq!dh_make06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dh_make - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:01
misieqwhat package contains dh_make?06:01
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E-Jeyhmm oke, thanks. Does anyone know where I can find that color sheme?06:02
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Hobbseemisieq: dh-make06:02
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h3sp4wnHawkwind: Yes (for a bit yes)06:02
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: http://seerofsouls.com/dists/dapper/e17/source/06:04
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Is that what you needed ?06:04
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h3sp4wnHawkwind: It is yes - e17 has been alot more broken recently (I think I will build it for edgy later)06:06
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Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Things have settled in CVS land as of yesterday.  Most everything is back to normal.  Few modules don't work and engage is still broken06:06
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Hawkwindh3sp4wn: We are hoping to get an update either tonight/tomorrow of the entire thing :)06:07
h3sp4wnHawkwind: evas was broken last time I tried which borked loads of stuff06:07
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Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Yeah.  It's working now.  I just updated about 20 minutes ago06:07
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xwolf-i'm getting this after running a configure file:06:12
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xwolf-http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2225106:13
xwolf-but i have just installed gcc-4.006:13
h3sp4wnxwolf-: install build-essential06:14
skavengeyou need  the build-essential package06:14
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xwolf-right, lemme check.06:14
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h3sp4wnHawkwind: Have you any idea what is happening with ebuntu - is the person responsible actually doing anything about it ? (the channel always seems to be empty)06:22
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Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Nope.  I emailed the guy that is listed on the wiki/site and I never got a response06:23
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olivierhi all06:23
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olivier_astalavista06:23
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h3sp4wnHawkwind: So did I (no response either) so it looks like its a dead project06:24
olivier_je suis francai06:25
olivier_ki est francais 06:25
DaSkreech!fr06:25
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:25
DaSkreechI mailed him as well06:25
olivier_je sui nouvo sur linux06:25
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Yeah I was hoping to see that take off.  But I'm working on a distro that is based on Kubuntu that will have an E17 version of the OS :)06:25
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skavengewouldnt you need a stable release of e17 fir that Hawkwind ?06:27
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Hawkwindskavenge: E17 is pretty darn stable at times if you build it correctly.  Look at Elive in fact06:28
trappistHawkwind: you gonna ship duke nukem forever with e17? ;)06:28
Hawkwindtrappist: Hah.  Good ole Duke Nukem06:28
skavengeHawkwind: well i havent installed any snapshots, just from cvs and i know from experience one change can render something useless till they fix it06:28
trappist(the joke is that duke nukem forever, like e17, has pretty much been vaporware for years and years)06:29
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Hawkwindskavenge: Correct.  But we don't build packages when we know things are broken.  Look at http://SeerOfSouls.com/ubuntu.html for example.  Everything should work at all times when we update the packages06:30
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h3sp4wnThere is a kanotix derivative with e17 as window manager06:33
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skavengeHawkwind: i see, that would make sense. how often are you planning to update? Just asking as you probably know as well as I the guys in #e are adding\working on the cvs almost daily06:33
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h3sp4wnskavenge: I have been using it with almost no problems for 2/3 months now06:34
Hawkwindskavenge: I happen to have dev access so I know when to and not to update things.  We are hoping to have an update about once a week or so.  That depends on the breakage in CVS of course06:34
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skavengeHawkwind: the dev access certainly helps. sounds very cool.06:34
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h3sp4wnHawkwind: Are you writing applications with the e libraries ?06:34
Hawkwindskavenge: I've been using E17 for well over a year now and really have no major issues until major API changes are made06:34
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: No06:35
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skavengeI've used it about three months myself, ive seen some small issues but nothing major06:36
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skavengemodules keeping up to date with e seems to be a hurdle i see though06:36
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Hawkwindskavenge: I've seen major/drastic changes to it since I started using it.  It's nearly a complete different wm from when I first started using it06:37
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arkygeekhi guys06:37
arkygeekhow do i fire up X from tty1?06:37
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Hawkwindskavenge: One of my good friends is the one who maintains about 95% of all the e_modules :)06:37
Hawkwindarkygeek: startx06:38
skavengearkygeek: startx06:38
arkygeekthx06:38
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skavengeHawkwind: devilhorns?06:38
Hawkwindskavenge: Yeppers06:38
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|lostbyte|How do i clear disk cache ?06:40
|lostbyte|Any idea ?06:40
skavengei really wish evolume was still supported, i was interested once i saw the evolume themes on get-e.org only to find out its not being updated anymore ;/ i end up using alsamixer in terminal to manage sound06:40
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|lostbyte|Disk cache : Allocated memory for processes. But i want to clear it as it stays there even at program termination.06:41
killermachin Gimp -> <IMAGE> -> Script-Fu -> Alpha to Logo, everything is grayed out.. what am I missing?06:41
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|lostbyte|killermach, did you try asking at #gimp06:42
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killermach|lostbyte|: I would but I have only had this issue in kubuntu, it has not happened on my main workstation and I have installed kubuntu/gimp on 2 different machines recently with the same issue06:44
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arkygeekJucato: hi.  hey, any suggestions for getting direct rendering working with an intel i-915 ?06:45
killermach|lostbyte|: asking in #gimp now06:45
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Jucatoarkygeek: sorry, nope...06:45
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skavengemy 915 had it from default on install06:46
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|lostbyte|How to cccccccccccclear disk cache ?06:48
|lostbyte|Argh.. Sorry.06:48
Jucato|lostbyte|: disk cache? Konqueror's or Firefox's?06:48
ketsugiIs there any reason why kde-i18n-zhcn package has not been updated to 3.5.4?06:48
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skavengeuh no your not06:50
skavengewoosp06:50
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|lostbyte|kde'06:53
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zblachhey, um, can anyone tell me about easycam?06:53
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DaSkreech !webcam06:54
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:54
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|lostbyte|Jucato, My kde's !06:55
DaSkreechI was using Red Hat Yesterday06:55
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JontyDoes anyone know where I can get xine 1.*.* .debs?06:56
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DaSkreechRed hat 206:56
|lostbyte|Jucato, Like when i start with kde i have 360 MB free memory. then later after running some apps, i Get to like 60 MB free. Even after closing the programs i still have 60 MB free. Only if i restart x, i get my total 360 MB free back..06:57
skavengethats how linux works06:57
Jucatoyep... that's how Linux manages memory06:57
skavengefree memory is wasted memory, it loads everything it can so next time you run something it starts even faster06:57
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Jucatonothing wrong with it06:57
|lostbyte|Point is, why does my kde slow down when its reaches to minimum free memory..06:58
|lostbyte|Jucato, Other wise its fast and very responsive.06:58
skavengepossibly not enough virtual memory set06:58
Jucatovirtual memory = swap06:59
|lostbyte|Like, i can see the window move in slow motion, when minimizing to panel.06:59
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Jucato|lostbyte|:  Linux automatically frees up some memory from Disk Cache if a program needs the resource06:59
|lostbyte|skavenge, I have around 500 MB swap..06:59
Jucatohow much RAM do you have?07:00
skavengeand how much physical ram?07:00
|lostbyte|Jucato, But it does it very slowly.. when in less free Memory07:00
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|lostbyte|skavenge, 512 MB07:00
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skavengewell thats the general rule, same as amount of ram, so that should be okay07:00
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skavengeare you running xgl or translucency on the window or anything?07:01
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Jucatoit's possible that there are problems with the programs or a memory leak of some sort.07:01
|lostbyte|skavenge, I read online, About disk cache, and i was wandering if i could clear it.. and see if it helps.07:01
skavengeim unsure how to clear that myself, if that is a solution07:02
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|lostbyte|skavenge, MEmeory leak is a hardware problem ?07:02
skavengea program usually07:02
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|lostbyte|skavenge, ok07:03
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EvilIdlerHas anyone here managed to get a D-Link DGE-528T working with kernel 2.6.15?07:04
Xcaliburwell, I reinstalled kubuntu as told by a professional07:04
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Xcaliburand i can now install my ndiswrapper drivers07:05
Xcaliburas for the dlink prob07:05
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Xcaliburi use everything linksys07:05
Xcalibur!wifi07:05
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:05
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EvilIdlerWas that link directed at me?07:06
ketsugiIs there any reason why kde-i18n-zhcn package has not been updated to 3.5.4?07:06
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killermachK -> Add/Remove Programs, select Any Suite, unsupported, and proprietary software, my Science category is empty, what am I missing?07:17
Jucatokillermach: I think Add/Remove Programs a.k.a. Adept Installer, is missing a few packages...07:18
JucatoI couldn't find KDissert either...07:18
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killermachJucato: I thnk so to..  I have installed synaptic a few minutes ago also, but did not find "check all" to get a complete list without multiple clicks on each item07:21
Jucatocheck all?07:22
weedarI'm having trouble finding out where I specify how big the viewport is...My resolution is 1024x768 but I can only see part of my desktop07:22
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PaulorificHey07:24
Paulorificquick question07:25
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PaulorificIs ndiswrapper already on kubuntu dapper?07:25
Paulorificon an installation07:25
Paulorificum07:25
zblachPaulorific: not by default07:25
Paulorificok07:25
Paulorificso07:25
skavengeno, under ndiswrapper-utils is on the cd though07:25
skavengewhich includes it07:25
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Paulorificok07:25
Paulorificgreat07:26
Paulorificthanks07:26
Paulorificso it'll be on the dvd i burned07:26
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skavengeshould be, search for ndiswrapper-utils through adept or sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils should install it right off the cd07:26
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DismalStupid question: I just installed kubuntu (first time playing with linux in years)   So I'm trying to install stuff but i dont know my root password (i dont recall ever setting one...)07:27
Paulorificyou have to set one07:27
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fdoving!root07:27
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:27
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skavengeDismal: its asking for your user password when you use sudo for example, there is no root password set by default for security purposes07:27
fdovingDismal: take a look at that url.07:27
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Dismalthanks07:27
pierrethhello, i am unable to open word document with openoffice, am i alone?07:27
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zblachpierreth: the problem is usually the reverse07:28
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forsaken1125anyone here im a linux newb, lol, and have alot of questions07:28
skavengejust ask07:28
pierrethzblach: if i open a word document, oo thinks it is in ASCII07:28
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zblachhrm07:29
forsaken1125i have an old hp netserver lh2 with kubuntu on it, and im tryin to get my other 2 nics workin07:29
zblachtry opening ooword, and then importing?07:29
forsaken1125and i cant get my scsi drvs to mount07:29
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pierrethzblach: importing how?07:30
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forsaken1125noop07:30
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forsaken1125oops sorry07:30
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ocjeunessesalut je cherche kubuntu.fr07:30
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forsaken1125i want to use this machine as a gateway since my hub/router is dead07:31
zblachpierreth: file -> open07:31
forsaken1125no one?07:32
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pierrethzblach: ok, the document i was thinking that was Word was not07:34
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pierrethzblach: so i have no problem07:34
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Xcalibur!sifi07:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sifi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:34
Xcalibur!wifi07:34
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:34
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zblachpierreth: had the same problem once07:35
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pierrethzblach: my files come from the mac so the file extension is not always there07:35
ubuntuhi07:35
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ubuntuhow are you everybody?07:36
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forsaken1125hello07:36
ubuntuwho is between 13 and 17 yo?07:37
skavengethis isnt AOL07:37
forsaken1125anyone here up to par with networking or drive mounting?07:38
fdovingubuntu:  go to #kubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat.07:38
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trappistforsaken1125: you might have better luck just asking your question.  I for one won't identifiy myself as the guy who can help you without knowing what your problem is.07:40
Dismalis kubunti xfree86 or x.org? (im trying to install ati drivers)07:40
skavengexorg07:40
trappistDismal: xorg07:40
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Dismalthank you07:40
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forsaken1125how do u get kubuntu to enable multiple nic's?07:41
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skavengeinstall them and set them up07:42
forsaken1125it sees the card, but wont let me set them up in admin mode07:42
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forsaken1125*cards07:42
skavengeis it the proper driver for the nics?07:42
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forsaken1125yes all the card are the same, im usin eth1 to chat with u guys07:43
skavengeso one works and the rest dont?07:43
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skavengeare you getting an error? you need to be clear as to what exactly is happening as none of us can see whats going on07:44
forsaken1125prettymuch, my lap is conn to one of the as well, all the lights are on(link/act/10/100)07:44
forsaken1125im a newb sorry, no error msgs, ill try somethin07:45
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pierrethis it possible to add rtf support to kate?07:46
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dhqi just installed a graphics tool with adept how do i uninstall it07:47
dhqis there any thing to restore my display  back07:48
dhqie by uninstalling the previous upgrade07:48
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forsaken1125skavenge:--->i enabled them, but 2 secs afterward, they switched to disabled07:51
Xcalibur!seen hawkind07:52
ubotuI haven't seen hawkind recently07:52
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Xcaliburhawkind, can you give me that link to the X error thing?07:52
JontyDoes anyone know where I can get xine 1.*.* .debs?07:53
Xcaliburno, srry07:53
Xcaliburhawkind!?!?!?!?!?!?!??07:54
JontyAnything above v1.0.0. In fact, anything that solves the bug meaning I can't play flacs in Amarok07:54
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forsaken1125skavenge?07:54
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dismalIt seems I broke adept.  It's telling me to run apt-setup or apt-get update but those also don't work...07:55
dismalI was trying to add the "restricted" repository07:56
Hawkwind!bad device error07:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bad device error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:57
HawkwindHmmmm07:57
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HawkwindXcalibur: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.007:58
HawkwindXcalibur: Bookmark http://LinuxForDummies.org/07:58
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Xcaliburthanx07:58
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forsaken1125kk, i gotem enabled with static ip's, now how do i tell the sys to let my laptops traffic pass thru?07:58
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XcaliburI own you like 4,000, but i don't have a job until i repair the next PC! :-P07:58
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dismalAnyone?  I broke adept by trying to add "restricted" as a repository and now i dont know how to fix it :/07:59
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forsaken1125???07:59
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dhqi need help how do i install xserver07:59
Hawkwindsudo apt-get install xorg08:00
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dhqHawkwind: thanx will try08:00
forsaken1125anyone know any server software or routing software i can apt-get?08:00
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dhqHawkwind: i get  error no file xorg found08:01
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Hawkwinddhq: Sorry, xorg-x11 maybe ?08:02
forsaken1125how do u edit fstab08:02
Xcalibur!wifi08:02
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:02
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Hawkwindforsaken1125: With your favorite editor.  kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab08:02
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forsaken1125ty hawkwind, know anything about networkin?!?!!!>>>>>lol08:03
Hawkwindforsaken1125: Yeah....my router does it all for me :)08:03
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dhqHawkwind: couldnt find package xorg-x1108:04
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Hawkwinddhq: apt-cache search <package>08:04
forsaken1125hawkwind:...lol, mine did till it shorted out,im makin an old bizness serverinto a server/gateway08:04
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Hawkwinddhq: apt-cache search xserver-xorg to be a bit more restrictive on the search08:05
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ketsugiHm, Lightbox doesn't really work well with Konqueror08:06
forsaken1125how do u partition/format a drv?08:07
forsaken1125then get linuxto mount it?08:07
Hawkwindqtparted is one app that can do it08:08
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forsaken1125is that package with kbuntu?08:09
Hawkwindforsaken1125: apt-cache search <package>08:10
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DaSkreechdismal: Hello?08:10
dismalhi?08:10
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ubuntuhi all... may I ask for some help?08:10
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dhqHawkwind: i restored my xserver thanx08:11
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ubuntuhow can I make logitech quickcam work? :(08:11
dhqHawkwind: i have a problem with my graphic you see i inservet a new repotosary of opengl and upgraded and now i cant see my mouse and half my screen08:12
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Hawkwinddhq: No problem08:12
now3dubuntu: is it not detected?08:12
ubuntuyes is detected and kopete let me show it... but i cannot send the image to another person08:12
now3dI changed my browser to Firefox in System Settings,  now when i load Konqueror and put a URL in, it will not load! any ideas how to use Konqueror now?08:12
dhqHawkwind: is there any way to undo a previous upgrade08:13
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now3dubuntu: so what is the problem, an application issue? an incompatiblity with your friend?  please give full info, including all chat software and IM network you are using08:13
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now3ddhq: No un-grade that I know of!08:14
ubuntui've used it on ubuntu until now, now i'm in the middle of an installation of kubuntu (still live now9.08:14
ubuntuso the situation is:08:14
drizI am reinstalling Kubuntu because i tried to add another hard drive on a box that clearly had no place for another one and i tried to turn it on and nothing. removed the harddrive and bam it works but it wouldn't load the root filesystem.08:14
ubuntuconnected cam08:14
ubuntuinstalled gqcam08:14
ubuntucamorama08:14
dismalI'm trying to install ati drivers and the guide on the ubuntu documentation website says to add the "restricted" repository - can anyone explain?08:14
ubuntuscpa5xx08:14
ubuntuand camorama and gqcam let me see the image08:14
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now3ddriz: doubt u need to re-install, check your BIOS and make sure you have the drives configured to boot and in correct connected order as before08:15
ubuntuthen I've tried wit kopete and aMSN to connect to my MSN account08:15
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ubuntuand using kopete i can see my image again08:15
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ubuntubut when sending my webcam image to a connected friend08:15
ubuntuhe only receive "connection in progress" or "waiting for connection".08:15
ubuntui think that's it08:15
now3dubuntu: so the only problem is that its not getting sent over your network, can you try with another aMSN user? are you behind a firewall? are you blocking the data being sent? is your friend blocking the data with his firewall?08:16
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ubuntufriends are not blocking data, pretty sure. but I probably am behind a firewall or NAT due to my ADSL modem. is it possible?08:16
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dhqhow to check the files that were upgraded newly by adept08:17
forsaken1125cant apt qtparted, any ideas?08:17
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KjetilKanyone know if there are companies that sell OK laptops with kubuntu preinstalled and certified to work with all features08:19
KjetilK?08:19
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now3dubuntu: type ifconfig and check your IP08:20
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ubuntui saw 10.0.0.13 but through www.mioip.it i saw 151.44.149.6608:21
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dimsuzHi! While doing dist-upgrade I get the message that 'amarok && amarok-xine' were kept back. What's this? How to install amarok?08:23
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now3ddimsuz: mabye they didnt need updating, or had not been updating in new distro etc08:24
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now3dubuntu: please run with your PC on an internet IP address, you might need an Ehternet ADSL addapter08:25
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ubuntunow3d: sprry, what do you mean?08:25
dimsuznow3d: I want to upgrade to amarok 1.4.2 and added corresponging "deb ..." to sources.list. And now it don't want to upgrade :(08:25
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now3ddimsuz: did you do apt-get update?  mabye the packate was not updated, check apt-cache search amarok08:26
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DeeTahPanLtahmy mate has kde english,how to make it polish?08:26
dimsuznow3d: yup. just did update08:26
dhqnow3d: if i uninstall all the packages of xserver how to i reinstall it again08:26
now3dubtunu: I think your NAT is the problem, please buy an Ethernet ADSL modem. Then plug your ethernet cable into ADSL modem to get an internet IP address directlyy08:27
dimsuznow3d: is there a way to find a reason why it was "kept back"?08:27
ubuntunow3d: i have an ethernet adsl modem... :) maybe I have to check how to turn off NAT, right?08:27
now3ddhq: Just write down the names, check what is installed using dpkg,  e.g. dpkg -l |grep xorg etc08:27
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now3ddimsuz: perhaps because there was no new version, or some dependency was not fulfilled08:28
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now3dubuntu: mabye you can try that, but I suspect it will cause your connection not to function at all08:28
ubuntui'll check. thank you. otherwise i'll get back here :D08:28
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dimsuznow3d: may it be because amarok is now in dapper-backports and at the same time I added a custom "deb ..." line from other site with amarok packages?08:29
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dhqnow3d: i just installed a repotisary from deb http://www.beerorkid/compiz i did the full upgrade and now my display and bouse it destroyed08:29
dhqmouse08:29
now3dhdq: please check your xorg.conf, mabye your device name changed for mouse08:30
now3ddhq: also, why not use the latest official repository, and KDE 3.5.4 ?08:30
now3ddimsuz: yes, its probably deprecated, so no new update for u to use08:30
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misieq!wine08:31
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:31
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zsolthello :-)08:31
dimsuznow3d: what do you mean? I'm using 1.3.9. And 1.4.2 was added in backports today08:31
ubuntuthank you now3d. now i'll turn off and check without nat08:31
dhqnow3d: well my screen is shifted down ie the 1st 3inches of my screen is disturbed and the starting of my screen starts after that the start bar is not visible it is below the screen08:31
zsoltI need help with the MSI CB54G wireless PCMCI card08:32
zsolthave anyone tried that yet on kubuntu ?08:32
dimsuznow3d: btw, thank you for helping out!08:32
now3dubuntu: you're welcome08:32
now3ddimsuz: mabye it is supported after all! does apt-cache search show version 1.4.2 ?08:33
zsoltanyone ???08:33
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dhqnow3d: any help08:34
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dimsuznow3d: hmm. it doesn't show versions at all. just descriptions.08:34
dimsuz:)08:34
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dimsuznow3d: and it was kubuntu's rss feed that announced amarok 1.4.2 available in backports08:35
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intelikeywell it wont work.08:35
nikoJwhat codename is 6.06.1?08:36
lotusleafdo point versions receive new codenames?08:37
zsolthas anyone set up a PCMCI wireless LAN card on kubuntu08:37
DaSkreechKjetilK: Sounds like a good busines to get into :)08:37
nikoJdoubt it, but is it dapper, edgy, etc?08:37
intelikeydap08:37
KjetilKDaSkreech: yeah, at least someone should start doing it :-)08:37
nikoJkk thanks :)08:37
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DaSkreech!wireless08:38
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:38
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zsoltthanks08:38
KjetilKbut I don't have the time to do a lot of research and tinkering anymore08:38
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dhqhow to reset kubuntu to default settings08:40
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intelikeyclean out your home dir.08:40
dhqi installed a xserver component or somthing and my display is all gone08:41
dhq well my screen is shifted down ie the 1st 3inches of my screen is disturbed and the starting of my screen starts after that the start bar is not visible it is below the screen08:41
Hawkwinddhq: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:42
Hawkwinddhq: Try that and it will probably fix your issues.  Usually the defaults will work08:42
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micmacIs there some kind of official kubuntu/ubuntu doumentation?08:42
DaSkreechThe Wiki?08:42
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micmacIf was more thinking official08:43
intelikeydhq sounds to me more like you need to find the knobs/buttons on the monitor and adjust it.08:43
micmacLike the "Ubuntu book" or something :)08:43
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misieq!freenx08:43
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX08:43
mythtvthere are several ubuntu books08:43
micmacThanks08:43
dhqHawkwind: still the same08:44
mythtv-08:44
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mythtvbeging ubuntu linux is pretty good - isbn: --1-59059-627-708:45
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DaSkreechBegging for Ubuntu Linux?08:45
DaSkreechdismal:08:45
lotusleaflol08:45
DaSkreechWhat was your problem?08:45
dhqa small little upgrade for my xserver distroyed my display and mouse08:45
dismalI just broke my gfx, how do I go back to the original config that kubuntu chose during setup?08:45
lotusleafdoes the cover have a homeless penguin wearing a hoola hoop with 3 ping pong balls super glued to it and holding a tin cup?08:46
DaSkreechsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:46
mythtv*begining*08:46
mythtvthough you can beg for it as well08:46
mythtvdaft as it's free though08:46
lotusleafmythtv: a better ficitional title would be "begging for a one click mythtv install without having to channel the ghost of configuration's past"08:46
dhq DaSkreech no use with tha command08:47
micmacSo there's no such thing as an official Kubuntu/Ubuntu book on the web?08:47
DaSkreechdhq: Eh?08:47
intelikey!xorg08:47
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:47
intelikeydhq sounds to me more like you need to find the knobs/buttons on the monitor and adjust it.08:48
DaSkreechmicmac: There is the Help on the Menu. That's official08:48
mythtvor just mythtv that works with out the need ofr a degree in nucler physics08:48
DaSkreechdhq: I was talking to dismal08:48
micmacDaSkreech, you mean the install menu=08:48
micmac?08:48
DaSkreechmicmac: No The menu. Alt+F1 -> Help08:48
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micmacOh :)08:49
dhqDaSkreech: intelikey how do i uninstall all the componente of xserver and install them again08:49
micmacOk, thanks08:49
intelikeydhq don't uninstall.  it'll take 66% of your junk with it.    just --reinstall   it.08:50
DaSkreech*winces* that's kind of nasty but if you like you can aptitude remove xserver and I think that it should pull everything graphical08:50
mythtvmicmac - try this http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html08:50
DaSkreechThen apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :-)08:50
grizzlyHow different is kubuntu from ubuntu + apt-get install kde08:50
dhqintelikey: how do i reinstall xserver08:50
lotusleafapt-get install crawl08:50
DaSkreechCleaner menus?08:50
micmacmythtv, thx, I'll check it out08:50
lotusleaf!crawl08:51
ubotucrawl: Dungeon Crawl, a text-based roguelike game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.0.0beta26-7 (dapper), package size 619 kB, installed size 1512 kB08:51
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lotusleafwoot! it has crawl listed ha ha!08:51
DaSkreechDiGot kicked?08:51
intelikeydhq rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf   or move it some place like /home/  and   sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-\*08:51
DaSkreechdismal: Got kicked?08:51
mythtvwhy uninstall xserver?08:51
mythtvthat way maddness lies08:51
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DaSkreechmythtv: Well I know someone who is getting the source code for 7.008:52
DaSkreechSo they can install it by hand08:52
intelikeymythtv mmmm uninstall X cause you don't use it anyway ???08:52
intelikey:)08:52
mythtvok fair enough08:52
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forsaken1125ty skavenge, still tryin to figure out how to mount those scsi drv, but ill figure it out08:53
intelikeyhmm just looked at a game. 'wesnoth'  anything simular ?08:53
forsaken1125ty for ur help earlier, im updating with adept rite now, pray for me08:53
intelikeyor maybe more like   'asc'  in it's nature ?   just looking for sujestions.08:54
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leaf_Could someone tell me about a starting point to create a fork of a Linux distribution? I just want to provide some additional applications that are installed by default and modify the default list of applications to install. I would prefer fork off Kubuntu!08:57
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intelikeyleaf_ that's hardly a reason to fork....08:58
leaf_I do not mean by fork to release a new distribution to the public.08:58
intelikeyleaf_ just write a better installer,  one that will allow users to choose what the initial installation will have.08:59
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HBKhi09:00
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mythtvleaf why not customize a new live cd?09:01
intelikeyif one used a dvd base the installer could easily have like three main choices,   1 default *buntu   2 minimal ubuntut   3 expert installation (which in turn would allow full control of what you installed from the get go)09:01
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intelikeymost of us would rather spend an extra 30 minutes choosing what packages we wanted installed than 3 days streightening out the mess that the default installer made.09:02
intelikeys/most/some/  cause i don't know the numbers.09:03
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marco_problem with webcam: it seems that without NAT my ADSL ethernet modem does not connect... but with NAT on my webcam cannot be shared with friends... anyone can help?09:04
intelikeyand there can be no doubt that "some" of us don't at all agree with the preferances of the developers.09:04
intelikey</rant>09:04
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TheGateKeeperleaf_: (k)ubuntu seems to me to be a fairly sorted distro, but making something like Arch linux easier to install by providing autodetect for your video card, sound card etc and making the thing easier would be good09:04
skavengethats not they're goal, period. If they wanted to make it robust for experienced users im sure they would, that is not the target audience for ubuntu09:05
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recon0Is there any guide to installing flash for kubuntu konkurer? (sic)09:06
intelikeyyeah i'm with TheGateKeeper on that one leaf_ better to improve an existing distro...09:06
marco_any idea please? :_( i need cam for work... :(09:06
lotusleaf!flash09:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:06
intelikey!flash09:06
intelikeyoops09:06
HBKwill 32-bit version work in AMD64 processor? Also is there any speed differece between 32-bit and 64-bit versions or both run the same?09:06
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leaf_TheGateKeeper: Do you have any idea where to start from? I checked LFS, but they are not mentioning how to automate the installation of the distro you make.09:07
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intelikey32 runst fine on k8 yes.   but for 32bit apps in a 64bit os you need to setup a 32bit chroot'd env09:07
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misieq!nxclient09:09
intelikeyleaf_ look into knoppix techknowledgy09:09
misieq!nxclient09:10
intelikeyfroidian *edgy  i guess.....09:10
intelikeymisieq nick not regestered ?09:10
misieqregistered09:10
DaSkreechintelikey: What about wesnoth?09:10
TheGateKeeperleaf_: not sure don't know if this would be any help: http://pages.google.com/preview/za1012001/installingarchlinux?authtoken=bb4457807961564e919c7fa5683d717c611cc852&no-cache=598707495267897109:10
misieqand identified ;)09:10
intelikeyDaSkreech know of any other games like it ?09:11
lotusleafI like books.google.com, I just found an entire book on demonology09:11
DaSkreechleaf_: hve you tried reconstructor?09:11
intelikeylooking for something without time limits  and that it not one dimentional09:11
DaSkreechHmm I've been playing Globulation for a bit09:12
DaSkreech!games09:12
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php09:12
TheGateKeeperleaf_: what you get with Arch when you install it is a very basic cli system, if you want to make it into a useable desktop there is quite a bit of work involved, they have no autodetect the user is supposed to do ALL the hard work09:12
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misieqi can't get nxclient working... there is no man page, it's not included in default path and when i type ./nxclient in it's dir it just quits only with "Error: Can't open display:"09:12
lotusleafDaSkreech: try crawl, it's addicting09:12
DaSkreechHave you looked at those intelikey?09:12
intelikeyDaSkreech westnorth is one dimentional in that you have no choice in where/what you explore you just follow the story line....    (diminsion not reffering to graphics)09:12
DaSkreechSounds like a dungeon crawller09:12
misieqshould i open ssh channel prior to connecting via nx?09:13
DaSkreechintelikey: Yeah I know. It has a kind of branching story09:13
TheGateKeeperleaf_: if you want to see my guide to installing arch I can give it to you09:13
DaSkreech But it comes with a aeditor so you can make your own if you like :)09:13
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randyHi09:13
Meherclehi09:13
lotusleafDaSkreech: it even has an Abyss, Hell, and demons09:13
Meherclewhen i run apt-get it returs : DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.09:13
Mehercleand Failed to open device09:14
intelikeyDaSkreech yeah  but it's still lacking.09:14
randyAny of you use Seamonkey on Kubuntu?09:14
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intelikeythe editor is way too confining.   map is too small.  if i'm gona build i want unlimited space....09:14
DaSkreechintelikey: Can you give me an idea of what yo uare lookgin for?09:15
MehercleHelp.....09:15
DaSkreechSome other example?09:15
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lotusleafrandy: I use links after 5 days without sleep so the text becomes graphics09:15
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DaSkreechMehercle: what did you do?09:16
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MehercleDaSkreech: sudo apt-get install ......09:16
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leaf_TheGateKeeper: Yes, that would be nice.09:16
randylotusleaf: that would cause too much pain in my eyes09:16
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DaSkreechMehercle: anything?09:17
Mehercleyes09:17
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Meherclehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2226209:17
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DaSkreechWhen did this happen?09:17
Mehercleis an example09:17
misieqright.... i've set "export DISPLAY=:0" and now when i start nxclient on the second machine (how the hell does it know where to connect?) i get a xmessage with only "ok" button to hit and nothing happes...09:17
misieqs/happes/happens/09:17
Meherclethe text is in dutch, but the errors in English09:17
lotusleafMehercle: isn't that always the case?09:17
Mehercleyes09:18
MehercleDESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.09:18
Mehercleis not normal09:18
TheGateKeeperleaf_: here you go: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/installingarchlinux   --- off to watch a film, but if you want to talk I will be back latter09:18
misieqahhh.... been ssh-ed to the host...09:18
randyAny of you use Seamonkey on Kubuntu?09:18
TheGateKeeperleaf_: hope it helps09:18
lotusleafrandy: why would I want to?09:18
intelikeyDaSkreech not really.... there were some M$ AD&D type games back 10 years ago that had many of the same things wesnoth has but the main map was playable as well, that is to say you went anywhere not just one way.  and no time limits,    is there something that has the look&feel of wesnoth ?    also there was an nes game 'conflict' that resembles 'asc' but seemed like a much better approach.09:19
misieqgot it working, never mind ;)09:19
randylotusleaf: is that a serious question?09:19
lotusleafrandy: not really :P09:19
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intelikeymy complaint is this,  the linux games seem to have a lot more detail in some areas, at the expense of the other areas.   not well balanced.09:19
lotusleafrandy: why, did you find a problem with it?09:19
DaSkreechrandy: Sup?09:20
lotusleafrandy: the browser I mean09:20
DaSkreechintelikey: Time to hit Happypenguin? :-)09:20
intelikeyDaSkreech ill scrool up now and give a look at the links you posted.09:20
randyIt fails to start on Kubuntu09:20
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lotusleafintelikey: a FOSS replacement to DirectX in the industry is sorely needed09:21
MehercleDaSkreech: no idea?09:21
DaSkreechStill looking09:21
lotusleafrandy: have you checked the ubuntuforums?09:21
randylotusleaf: I want to run Seamonkey on Kubuntu, but it fails upon start09:21
intelikeylotusleaf yeah but the games i had in mind predate DX09:21
lotusleafrandy: I remember someone posting about it on there recently09:21
lotusleafintelikey: :)09:21
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randylotusleaf: I've been bangin on this for quite some time in forums, irc's on all the communities I can think of09:22
DaSkreechrandy: I think the first time you run it you have to do it with sudo09:22
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lotusleafrandy: the mozilla forums ?09:22
intelikeyyou know, back in the day when we used our imagenations rather than 3d accel. and dri   :)09:22
lotusleafintelikey: have you tried crawl? :)09:23
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DaSkreechintelikey: I'm trying to picture this imagenation thing. Do You have a screenshot?09:23
lotusleafrandy: if you haven't tried the Mozilla forums, give it a shot, there's a lot of people there09:23
intelikeylotusleaf no.  is it graphic or text ?09:23
lotusleafintelikey: text09:23
intelikeyDaSkreech lol09:23
randylotusleaf: I want to run Seamonkey on Kubuntu, but it fails upon start09:23
lotusleafintelikey: also try nethack09:24
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lotusleafrandy: this is what you've said, have you tried posting about this on the official Mozilla forums?09:24
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intelikeylotusleaf i've written a text based rpg   that's more imagenation than i want....  :)09:24
DaSkreechrandy: did you try run it with sudo? the first time it runs it needs to be root09:24
randyDaSkreech: yeah but it still fails09:24
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DaSkreechrandy: Ok09:25
randyDaSkreech: do you work for Kubuntu?09:25
DaSkreechNo :-)09:25
DaSkreechIf you like you can ask on the Seamonkey chan on IRC09:26
lotusleafrandy: http://forums.mozillazine.org/09:26
lotusleafrandy: there's a seamonkey forum area there09:26
randyDaSkreech: been there, as I indicated, I've been to all the forums and irc's from all the relevant communities09:27
DaSkreechIs there an error?09:27
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lotusleafrandy: can you direct me to your posts on that forum then?09:27
lotusleafrandy: so I know you tried posting there? :)09:27
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randylotusleaf: accusing me?09:28
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DaSkreechrandy: No but it's helpful to see waht you have tried09:29
philipp_hi, my gdesklets program doesn't start. I've reinstalled it, but this didn't work. Can somebody help me plz?09:29
intelikeylotusleaf have you played wesnoth ?    that's the basic design/format that i like.  (if/when i play a game)  if you know of other veriants of that ?09:29
lotusleafrandy: verification09:29
DaSkreechRather than you just telling us no you did that all over again09:29
MehercleDaSkreech : still nothing?09:29
lotusleafrandy: I spent the time to give you a link, let's see your posts ;)09:29
lotusleafintelikey: check the icculus game list, also happypenguin09:29
intelikeyicculus  got it.  ty.09:30
lotusleafintelikey: http://lotusleafslinks.tuxfamily.org/linux.html <-- see games/emulation09:30
lotusleafintelikey: yw09:30
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DaSkreechMehercle: This doesn't ring any bells. this stops you from installing anythign?09:30
Mehercleno09:30
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randylotusleaf: I started trying to use Seamonkey 2-3 months ago, I've spent all the spare time I can on it which amounts to about 20-30 hours over 8 weeks, I'm too burnt to go find my posts to those forums, thanks anyway09:31
DaSkreechMehercle: So it's more annoying than anything?09:31
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lotusleafrandy: ok, I'll do it for you, tell me what username you posted there under. :)09:31
philipp_can smbdy help me plz ?09:31
MehercleDaSkreech: command sudo apt-get -qq install ......09:32
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Meherclegives me errors09:32
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DaSkreechphilipp_: gdesklets or karamba?09:32
Mehercleand my scripts are using it09:32
philipp_DaSkreech: gdesklets09:32
misieqhow do i attach my bluetooth device to /dev/rfcommX ?09:32
tuxarphilipp_, try removing .gdesklets in your home directory09:33
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tuxarphilipp_, and you reset all your sttings09:33
misieq!bluetooth09:33
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup09:33
randylotusleaf: ok, give me a few minutes and I'll give you a list of all the forums and ircs I've been on regarding this09:34
lotusleafrandy: I was just asking for that forum :)09:34
lotusleafrandy: I'm interested in the responses your posts received09:34
DaSkreechphilipp_: If you are the conservative type you can rename it09:35
MehercleDaSkreech: you understand me?09:35
Meherclesomeone told me about a pointer or something09:35
DaSkreechMehercle: You have a set of scripts that you want to run quietly and  the eerror still comes up09:35
philipp_tuxar: I've tried rmdir in the terminal with the  --ignore-fail-on-non-empty option with root rights, but the folder is still there :(09:35
misieqhow do i attach my bluetooth device to /dev/rfcommX ?09:35
MehercleDaSkreech: yes09:36
DaSkreechMehercle: Have you asked in #ubuntu-devel ?09:36
Mehercleadn i hate errors :-p09:36
Mehercleno09:36
tuxarphilipp_, but you installed in root mode ?09:36
DaSkreechMehercle: Ahh QT error :)09:36
tuxarphilipp_, try using sudo rm -Rf .gdesklets09:36
DaSkreechMehercle: try #kubuntu-devel09:36
Mehercleok09:37
DaSkreechtuxar: :-P09:37
DaSkreechtuxar: Just let him rename it09:37
DaSkreechAssuming that philipp_ is a him :)09:37
tuxarDaSkreech, yeah ! youe right09:37
tuxarphilipp_, My method is too risky, try renaming .gdesklets,DaSkreech is right09:38
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slow-motionhallo09:44
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tuxardid someone compiled Konversation 1.0 beta ?09:44
tuxarslow-motion, hello09:44
slow-motionhi tuxar09:45
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philipp_tuxar: it's working again thanks^^09:45
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tuxarphilipp_, welcome, next time take DaSKreech advice, rename it all right ?09:46
DaSkreech!konversation09:46
ubotukonversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4835 kB, installed size 11136 kB09:46
philipp_tuxar: I have renaimed it ;)09:46
DaSkreechtuxar: It's in edgy I think09:46
tuxarDaSkreech, wow, here we've got a beta tester !!! Good for you !09:47
DaSkreechimbrandon: Ping09:48
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stewrazcan i ask a question please09:51
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stewrazi have used adept to install "beneth a steel bsky" but i cannt seem to find it anywhere09:52
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stewrazi cannot locate it to run through scumm09:52
stewrazstupid question i know09:52
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insanekanestewraz: you can look at the package details to see where the files are09:53
GeneralZodstewraz:dpkg --listfiles beneath-a-steel-sky09:54
we6jbo_Guys, I did it09:54
pielgrzymanyone could tell me how to change icons representing folders? I'm using Crystal Vista XT theme in KDE and I would like to change folder colors - I tried exchanging proper folder.png icon, but it was 'recreated' in old color :(09:54
stewrazgeneral: sorry im too bloody new to the linux OS09:55
DaSkreech!ask09:55
stewrazgeneral: what do i do with what u wrote09:55
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:55
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GeneralZodstewraz:Ah, sorry.  Do you know how to bring up the Konsole terminal?09:56
stewrazyep sorry i got it now09:56
GeneralZodstewraz:Cool :)09:56
tuxarpielgrzym, but you have to restart your X session to make changes stay, CTRL-ALT-Backspace09:57
tuxarpielgrzym, save all your work before09:57
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DaSkreech;-)09:58
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pielgrzymtuxar: but after exchanging folder.png with a gray icon it suddenly became blue again.09:58
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misieqpilegrzym in kde you can click "properties" (wlasciwosci ;) ) and click on folder icon09:58
dhqwhen i run startx i am getting an error wacom and no devices detetcted09:58
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tuxarpielgrzym, Ups! that's not normal :(09:58
pielgrzymmisieq: but I'd like to change icon for all the folders, not just a few ;)09:58
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misieqand if you want to exchange all icons, then you have to create new style based on your current (tar gzip it) but with folder.png changed09:59
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pielgrzymmisieq: damn, quite a lot of work :) I'll try this one :)09:59
misieqand later install it in "wyglad"09:59
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ocjeunessebonjour09:59
ocjeunesseje recherche kubuntu.fr10:00
misieq!french10:00
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:00
ocjeunessele canal10:00
dhqwhen i run startx i am getting an error wacom and no devices detetcted10:00
dhqplease help me10:00
ocjeunessemerci10:00
dhqi dont know what to do10:00
pielgrzymmisieq: thanks for help :)10:01
misieqocjeunesse: you're welcome ;)10:01
mattikooHello. I have used kubuntu dapper and it crashed many times, I tried zenwalk too and it don't crash. Windows keep alive too. I uses kde 3.5.4 and automatix10:01
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mattikooused10:01
skavengeand?10:02
DaSkreechdhq: You are getting warnings10:02
randylotusleaf: I'm waiting for my new password to activate on mozillazine forums so I can see and share with you any postings I did there.10:02
dhqDaSkreech: yes10:02
DaSkreechdhq: Those are "normal"10:02
mattikooIs kde 3.5.4 stable?10:02
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skavengenot for alot ofpeople10:02
buzmattikoo: kwin keeps crashing for me10:02
dhqDaSkreech: but the it dosnt login kde or xserver10:02
dhqi am doin all this at console level10:03
mattikoobuz: what's kwin?10:03
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tuxarmattikoo, for me it is very stable10:03
stewrazmmmm beeath a steel sky seems to be taking ages to launch10:03
randylotusleaf, DaSkreech, Interestingly, Seamonkey started seemingly on its own, must have been queing10:03
derek_hey is there anything like cpuz for linux?10:03
buzmattikoo: it draws windows for you, basically10:03
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misieqpielgrzym: in case you wanted some help in (i believe your) native language, you can /msg me10:03
DaSkreechdhq: Then that's not your problem10:03
DaSkreechdhq: If you want you can get rid of those warnings10:04
mattikoobuz, tuxar: how to fix?10:04
intelikeyhehhe this is cute! kde screen saaver can't access my home dir.10:04
dhqDaSkreech: what do i do10:04
buzdunno10:04
derek_is there anything like cpuz for linux?10:04
buzi live with it for the time being10:04
buzdowngrading to kde 3.5.3 is too much pain10:04
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PolioincornholioHeya guys10:04
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intelikeyit seems that the address of my home dir is not a leagle address for kde  ?10:04
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derek_!cpuz10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cpuz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:05
PolioincornholioJust some light comic relief here, before i ask a noobish question10:05
Polioincornholiohttp://xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png10:05
pielgrzymmisieq: thanks :) today I rather won't do it - too much work :) ale dzieki za pomoc :)10:05
skavengederek_: what does it do, what are you looking for? a measure of used cpu or what?10:05
buzwhere can i go bitch about the edgy theme?10:05
mattikoobuz, tuxar, thank you :)10:05
dhqDaSkreech: so.....10:05
sleeptyperlol Polioincornholio10:05
skavengebuz: #ubuntu+1 is the edgy channel10:05
derek_cpu frequency, (like htt and fsb memory speeds and timmings10:05
buzmhh i could have figured10:05
buzi tried #kubuntu+1 but it was emtpy10:06
randylotusleaf, DaSkreech, Also interesting all the errors the terminal gave upon trying to start Seamonkey before10:06
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intelikeybuz #ubuntu+1 for all your bitching needs   lol10:06
buzintelikey: did you look at it? its gruesome10:06
buzworse than now, even10:06
draikintelikey, I got it worked out10:07
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dhqis there anythin else other thanxserver10:07
intelikeybuz no i'm a dapper'r10:07
draikGRUB works10:07
intelikeydraik what it was ?10:07
intelikeyyes the error 17  what it was ?10:07
draikGRUB was loading from my 3rd HDD, not my 1st10:07
draikyup10:07
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draikError 1710:07
buzwell so am i, but i tried it (too broken for anything real right now)10:08
draikJucato helped me out10:08
buzscreenshots are at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu#head-10d072d689fb5a44fbb881026216021c84630ea010:08
buz(i still cant believe it)10:08
intelikeyso your bios was set to sda first draik ?10:08
draikIt was a bit strange... I could load up the HDD properly with the GRUB if I told the Live CD to run from HDD, but not if I just let my desktop boot by itself10:09
draiknope10:09
draikBIOS was fine10:09
draikIt was pointing in the wrong direction10:09
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misieqhow do i attach my bluetooth device to /dev/rfcommX ?10:10
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buzdraik: your boot.map is likely wrong10:10
buzi had that once upon a time10:10
buzno wait10:10
buzthe name is different10:10
draikactually, my device.map was wrong10:11
buzdraik: check /boot/grub/device.map10:11
draikI had to add my new HDD10:11
buzyeah that happens at lot with sata10:11
buzespecially when you twist bios boot order10:11
draikQuick question, someone is using a registered nick that I have10:11
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draikHow do I get it back if they're signed on to it?10:11
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buzmhh signed on?10:11
draikyup10:11
intelikey/msg nickserv recover blah10:11
buzyou mean like signed onto nickserv?10:11
draiksays that I can't use it because someone is using it ATM10:12
intelikey /msg nickserv help10:12
draikyup10:12
buzyeah /nickserv help10:12
sleeptyperrecover, then release10:12
skavengeits 'ghost'10:12
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skavengeoh someone is on it n/m10:12
awkahola10:12
awkaalguien me puede ayudar10:12
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sleeptyper#kubuntu-es <-10:12
awkacon un problema que tengo con DHCP10:12
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intelikeyyou can do a hostal take over  or you could /msg them and tell them it's regestered and would they like to change their nick draik10:13
buzwho is in charge of canonicals mirrors anyway?10:13
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draikok10:13
buz(for some rather weird reason ch.archive points to the uk even though there are ultra fast swiss mirrors)10:13
awkaalguien me puede ayudar con DHCP10:14
intelikeyi prefer to tell people before i chase them off my nest....10:14
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sleeptyperawka, -> #kubuntu-es10:14
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sebastianhey im having problems with my ati card... for some reason i get higher FPS in glxgears with the mesa driver then the ATI driver10:14
Polioincornholioguys10:14
draiklol10:14
draikit was ghosted10:14
Polioincornholioi need to install ndiswrapper10:15
intelikeyso why can't kde look in my home dir for pic's for screensaver ?10:15
sleeptyperghost works though even if someone really is using it :)10:15
Polioincornholiocould someone help, i know it's an easy problem10:15
skavengePolioincornholio: ndiswrapper-utils on the cd10:15
|lostbyte|sebastian, and how much diff ?10:15
Polioincornholioyep10:15
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sebastianhmm10:15
awkaalguien que hable espaol que me pueda ayudar con un problema con DHCP10:15
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sebastianmesa had about 350ish and ATI about 12510:15
|lostbyte|Polioincornholio, apt-get ndiswrapper10:15
Polioincornholioskavenge: how, exactly do i get it off10:15
sebastianits a raden 9600 256mb10:15
buzawka: try #kubuntu-es10:15
PolioincornholioI'm stumped10:16
|lostbyte|Polioincornholio, with sudo though.10:16
skavengePolioincornholio: look for it in adept or sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils10:16
intelikeyit seems as far as kde is concerned i have an unusable $HOME10:16
sebastianis that really poor preformance for this card?10:16
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awkaalguien que hable espaol que me pueda ayudar con un problema con DHCP10:16
PolioincornholioSkavenge, i did that, but the search chutrned out nothing, and the cmd said it could not find the packjage10:16
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buzintelikey: what is your home'10:16
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skavengePolioincornholio: and you've still got the cd in?10:17
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intelikey /var/local/www/.something10:17
Polioincornholiodvd, yes10:17
awkaalguien que hable espaol que me pueda ayudar con un problema con DHCP10:17
buzwtf is your home in /var ????10:17
gsuvegre10:17
|lostbyte|awka, english pls.10:17
digits!es10:18
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:18
intelikeybuz it's not a problem for xfce or blackbox  but kde seems to think i can't do that...10:18
gsuvegndiswrapper works good with broadcom?10:18
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buzit probably doesnt like the hidden dir very much?10:18
intelikeybuz would you rather i put my home in /proc  lol :)10:19
buztry removing the dot for starters10:19
intelikeyna i like hidden dirs10:19
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buzpersonally i prefer encrypted home, really ;)10:20
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intelikeythat's not the problem. it's the www that it throwing kde for a loop10:20
awkaalguien que hable espaol que me pueda ayudar con un problema con DHCP10:20
sebastian929anyone here have a ATI radeon 9600 installed on kubuntu?10:20
skavengePolioincornholio: are you already installed or running off the livecd?10:20
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digitsawka: redigera10:20
digitsawka: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:20
BlueLagunawhat works better, xgl with compiz or aiglx with comiz?10:20
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BlueLagunaover KDE...10:20
intelikeyi can manually type in the address but it always reverts to the www and sits there.   maybe i should write an index html ???10:21
buzcompiz in general doesnt work very well with kde10:21
DaSkreechintelikey: Dod you have rights to your home?10:21
digitsawka: I can help you with DHCP in english, but I don't speak Spanish...10:21
intelikeyDaSkreech but of course10:21
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buzscnr10:21
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intelikeyi rented one time... place was a dump.  kinda like the one i own now... but it's my dump :)10:22
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intelikeywell as long as i can pay the taxes it's mine....   i guess that means it's not really mine dont it ???10:24
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shannon_I have a bcm4318, but I cannot get it to work, I looked on the wiki and on the forums, and tried their ideas/tips/guides/walkthroughs. I'm still not getting anything10:25
shannon_btw: I'm on ethernet now10:25
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Dannilionyou trying to use the bcm43xx driver or ndiswrapper?10:26
intelikeykonq doesn't have any problem browsing my home....  i guess it's something in the screensaver setup that don't like www10:26
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shannon_Dannilion: the bcm43xx one10:26
Dannilionok10:26
intelikey!ndiswrapper10:26
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:26
Dannilionwhat bit isn't working?10:27
shannon_intelikey: I know ndiswrapper10:27
skavengendiswrapper was way easier for me personally, ive got a 4306 though10:27
intelikeyk10:27
shannon_Dannilion: Thye part where I connect. I can get to the hardware10:27
DannilionI've got the 4306 and ndiswrapper was iffy with it10:27
shannon_Dannilion: lspci shows it, as does iwconfig and iwlist and ifconfig and kcontrol10:27
skavengei could never get network connections with the kernel module10:28
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Dannilionso you can do sudo ifconfig whateveryourwirelessis up?10:28
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shannon_Dannilion: but ping says -> Destination Host Unreachable10:28
Dannilionok10:28
shannon_Dannilion: yes, I imagine so10:28
DannilionTry it10:28
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shannon_Dannilion: I did similar in kcontrol, but I'll do it in CLI this time10:28
sebastian929my server and client vendor string in glxinfo dont match how can i fix it?10:29
sebastian929server glx vendor string: SGIv10:29
sebastian929server glx vendor string: SGI10:29
sebastian929client glx vendor string: ATI10:29
DannilionSometimes the cli can give an error message that kcontrol doesn't give10:29
shannon_Dannilion: okay -- up10:29
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Dannilionright10:29
aztunhi all10:29
shannon_Dannilion: no error message10:29
aztunis there any .deb of konversation 1.010:29
Dannilionnow go internet, Wireless Assistant10:29
shannon_Dannilion: um -- just a minute10:29
DannilionThat's good, that means you got past the bit that I got stuck on :P10:30
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shannon_Dannilion: specifically wirelesss assistant?10:30
DannilionYes10:30
shannon_Dannilion: okay10:30
shannon_Dannilion: I'm  installing it10:30
DannilionWireless Assistant (Wireless LAN Manager)10:30
Dannilionok10:30
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DannilionI can never get my wireless connection up through kcontrol10:31
shannon_sudo apt-get install wlassistant10:31
shannon_Reading package lists... Done10:31
shannon_Building dependency tree... Done10:31
shannon_wlassistant is already the newest version.10:31
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shannon_^^10:31
skavengewireless assistant is a great program10:31
sebastian929anyone know how to remedy this please?10:31
digitsanybody had any success with their ati (radeon 9600) card and fglrxin x86? i just get complaints bout DRI10:31
shannon_That's it, right?10:31
shannon_now I swith internet connections'10:31
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Dannilionshannon_, should be under Internet in your KMenu10:31
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buzover10:31
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shannon_Dannilion: it is10:32
Dannilionclick on it10:32
shannon_Dannilion: okay -- I'm SeanTater also (another computer)10:32
Danniliontype password, tell me if it sees your network10:32
skavengeknetworkmanager doesnt even recognize i have a connection ;p never bothered to set it all up though10:32
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SeanTater(me)10:32
Dannilionknetworkmanager never worked for me either10:32
buzskavenge: works like a charm with my centrino10:32
sebastian929can anyone here help me with my ati radeon card?10:32
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buzfirst thing that ever worked with wpa and centrino for me, really10:33
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DannilionWe both have the bcm4306 chipset in our wireless cards though- that doesn't like knetworkmanager10:33
skavengemust be10:33
Dannilionshannon_, does it see your connection?10:33
buzcould be10:33
buzi had no end of trouble with bcm*10:34
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SeanTaterDannilion: it sees my router10:34
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DannilionSeanTater, click on your router10:34
SeanTaterDannilion: it has not connected yet (i'm still setting up the ip and such)10:34
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SeanTaterDannilion: I did, not I have to set up manual ip10:34
Dannilionahh, ok10:35
Danniliondo so then, then let me know if it connects10:35
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Dannilion(mine is also a manual IP and it worked fine once it was setup)10:35
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shannon_Dannilion: Connection failed10:36
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Dannilionclick it again10:36
XcaliburI'm so happy I got my card working10:36
Xcaliburand10:36
Dannilionand keep clicking it- mine takes a few tries sometimes10:36
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Xcaliburdoes anyone know where i can get flashplayer 8?10:36
XcaliburI got 710:37
Xcaliburbut i need 810:37
skavengeheh10:37
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skavengeflash 7 is the newest for linux10:37
SeanTaterfailed again10:37
Dannilionyou have to run firefox in wine to use 8 (or 9)10:38
Dannilionok...10:38
Xcalibursomone said that 9 wasn't tat far away10:38
Xcaliburwell, what media player should i use for break.com?10:38
aliasfredthere is one guy working on flash for linux doing a blog10:38
SeanTaterDannilion: keeps fialing10:38
Dannilionhave you ran sudo iwconfig whateveryourwirelessis rate 11M?10:38
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SeanTaterDannilion: not recently10:39
SeanTaterDannilion: trying now10:39
Danniliondo so now10:39
Xcaliburyo10:39
Xcaliburwhats a good media player for linux?10:39
Xcaliburfor break.com10:39
thommhi everybody! my english is so bad, but I have a problem, so I hope, you can help me. I have a lampp sever under kubuntu. i can't have a smtp server on that machine, so i must to use other. I change in php.ini smtp = localhost to smtp = smtp.***.com and i restart an apache. but i still can't to send mails..:( please, can someone help me? once again, i'm sorry for my english.10:39
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Xcaliburyou english is actually not that bad10:40
thommthanks:)10:40
thommi'm only 14teen10:40
Xcaliburfor mail related server, I use Cmail, but I'm not sure if they have it for linux10:40
DannilionSeanTater, try clicking on your router again10:40
Xcaliburit's very easy to me10:40
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SeanTaterDannilion: have (since the iwconfig thing) 3 times, nothing new -- still failing10:41
Xcalibur!smtp10:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:41
Dannilionok10:41
Xcalibur!server10:41
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/10:41
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SeanTaterDannilion: I also pressed refresh also10:41
Dannilionok10:41
thommthanks, xcalibur10:41
buzthomm: are you editing the correct php.ini?10:41
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buzfor apache2, that woudl be /etc/php/apache2/php.ini10:42
Xcalibur!seen HawKind10:42
ubotuI haven't seen hawkind recently10:42
thommbuz: i thing.. yes..10:42
pierrethi have some problem with my fonts10:42
DannilionSeanTater, close Wireless Assistant, and open kcontrol10:42
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buzthomm: you could also try installing sendmail with a smarthost10:42
SeanTaterDannilion: ok10:42
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Xcalibur!seen Jucato10:42
ubotuI last saw Jucato (n=jucato@124.106.194.30) 3h 12m 51s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection10:42
pierrethwhen i try to add them, kde is saying there are already there10:42
buzit will then relay all mails through that host via smt10:42
buzp10:42
pierrethbut i don't see them10:43
pierrethany idea?10:43
DannilionSeanTater, set up your ip details again, and enable the connection again10:43
coreymon77hey everyone10:43
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SeanTaterDannilion: okay10:43
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SeanTaterDannilion: it's reloading the network now10:43
DannilionSeanTater, do you currently have any security on your router?10:43
SeanTaterDannilion: no10:44
SeanTaterDannilion: no wep, no wpa10:44
Dannilionok :)10:44
Dannilionok, see if that's worked10:44
thommhmm..  i need some module for php , so i can send mails? yes, i edit /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini10:44
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coreymon77i added my printer to the printers list10:44
pierrethi have an error with some fonts10:44
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_lupineaww... 4,500 miles away10:44
Dannilion_lupine, you're quite welcome to use my connection- High Spen, Rowlands Gill, England :P10:45
MetaMorfoziSjocakat10:45
pierrethError: Could not determinate font's name10:45
SeanTaterDannilion: no joy yet -- still trying10:45
Dannilionok10:45
SeanTater_lupine: for one, in the US, in NC10:45
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pierrethI'm trying to use my fonts from Mac OS X10:45
DannilionSeanTater, CLI time again: sudo iwlist scan10:45
pierrethAny idea how?10:45
buzthomm: should work out of the box10:45
SeanTaterDannilion: okay10:46
SeanTaterDannilion: it just finished reloading, no joy10:46
Dannilionright, do the scan10:46
gotnonicknamehmm10:46
SeanTaterDannilion: doing them now10:46
gotnonicknamei need to resize my root partition..10:46
SeanTaterDannilion: it found one10:46
Dannilionright10:47
SeanTaterDannilion: but I can't paste, so10:47
Dannilionhelp here: how do you connect to a network in the CLI again?10:47
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SeanTaterDannilion: ifconfig?10:47
Dannilionwait10:47
SeanTaterDannilion: I don't know10:47
Dannilionsudo iwconfig essid whateveryournetworkis10:47
SeanTaterDannilion: okay10:48
thommbuz: thanks, so i try to install postfix and that smtp add in relayhost..10:48
Dannilionsorry, sudo iwconfig yourwirelesscard essid whateveryournetworknameis10:48
buzthomm: that should work10:48
SeanTaterDannilion: ah-ok10:48
SeanTaterDannilion: I was about to say..10:48
Dannilionfirst one brings up an error ;)10:48
gotnonicknamehmm10:48
thommbuz: ok10:49
gotnonickname'do i need to boot from a livecd to resize my root partition?10:49
_lupineyes10:49
SeanTaterDannilion: still nothing10:49
Dannilionok10:49
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gotnonickname_lupine: me?10:49
_lupinegotnonickname: yes :)10:49
SeanTaterDannilion: just "destination host unreachable"10:49
DannilionRight then, I'm out of ideas10:49
_lupineSeanTater: try setting the AP10:49
gotnonickname_lupine: thanks, restarting :p10:49
Dannilionhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=431810:49
Dannilionuse that with ndiswrapper10:49
_lupinee.g. sudo iwconfig <interface> ap <router's MAC ID>10:49
_lupinealso check dmesg for errors ;)10:50
Dannilionthanks _lupine :P10:50
SeanTater_lupine: okay10:50
DannilionI'm absolutely hopeless at support unless I'm at the computer in question :P10:50
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SeanTater_lupine: nothing10:51
_lupinedoes iwconfig show the ap's MAC in the config10:51
_lupine?10:51
Darkoyep i thhink10:51
_lupinehmm. How about sudo ifconfig <interface> up ?10:52
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Xcaliburanyone know a good media player for opera, flash player don't work10:52
SeanTater_lupine: okay -- trying that10:52
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Darkoit'l say somethin like this Access Point: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX10:52
SeanTater_lupine: no change10:53
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SeanTaterDarko: me?10:53
SeanTaterDarko: that's what I put in as the mac address10:53
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_lupinestill nothing in dmesg?10:53
Darkono what you trying to do?10:53
Xcalibur?10:54
Xcaliburanyone?10:54
SeanTater_lupine: I have not checked10:54
thommbuz: shit.. so.. now i now, that relay is not supported in my network..:( [im really sure]  so, only what is my chance is right configure php..10:54
SeanTaterDarko: connect to the internet with a bcm4318 card10:54
SeanTater_lupine: I'd checking dmesg now10:54
buzthomm: you dont need a relay, you need to setup the smtp server of your isp as smarthost10:54
buzif that doesnt work, nothing will10:54
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Darkobah i hate that card10:55
Dannilionit's one of the few worse than mine :P10:55
Dannilion(bcm4306)10:55
SeanTater_lupine: Dannilion, Darko, It just crashed, I'm restarting10:55
Dannilionrestarts are always good10:55
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Dannilionfixed mine a couple of times :P10:56
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SeanTater / hammer /10:56
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SeanTaterlogging in10:57
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thommbuz: smarthost? what is smarthost?10:57
SeanTaterno joy10:58
buzthomm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_host10:58
thommbuz: thanks:)10:58
buzbasically, your postfix sends all mail to some other smtp server which then takes care of delivery10:58
buzi'm sure there are docs for postfix (i never used postfix)10:58
SeanTaterokay -- dmesg is complaining about bcm43xx10:58
thommso, but i think, this isnt supported in my network..:(10:59
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thommwhat i really need ist right configure a php.ini..11:00
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SeanTaterDannilion: _lupine, Darko, It is complaing about "FATAL_ERROR: BCM43xx_IRQ_XMIT_ERROR"11:00
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buzif that isnt supported, smtp in php wont work either11:00
SeanTaterDannilion: _lupine, Darko, It is complaing about it every 20 seconds11:00
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thommhmm.. so if mail goes direct to the remote smtp server, its okey. but all other is disable..11:02
SeanTaterokay -- using wlassistant] 11:02
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SeanTaternot workinf11:02
SeanTatertrying kcontrol11:02
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SeanTaternow it says "network is unreachable"11:03
SeanTaterinstead of destination host11:03
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coreymon77nvm i got the printer working11:04
coreymon77next question11:04
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coreymon77is it possible to sync a hp ipaq h1940 in kubuntu11:04
SeanTatercoreymon77: neve heard of it11:04
SeanTaterit's reloading11:04
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coreymon77its a pocket pc11:05
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SeanTater:-| still not working11:05
SeanTatercoreymon77: try kitchensync11:05
SeanTatercoreymon77: and kpilot11:05
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SeanTaterum --11:06
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SeanTater?!11:08
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sebastian929what is a good motherboard company for linux? im using asus and it uses via.. is that bad?11:09
SeanTaterit says kubuntu has gone 49710 daya without ut's fs being checked -- check forced11:09
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h3sp4wnSeanTater: tyan make the best boards in my opinion11:09
SeanTaterI'm not sure/I'M? 49710 days old, much less my computer11:09
h3sp4wnSeanTater: supermicro are good also (but intel only)11:10
SeanTaterh3sp4wn: tey <tab> again11:10
arthompsanybody got an idea how to debug random freezes on an x2 running the k8 smp enabled kernel.  it's completely random when it happens.  no /var/log/messeges.11:10
SeanTaterh3sp4wn: you got the wrong person11:10
arthompsit's like once every 2/3 days.11:10
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nonicknamehey11:10
h3sp4wnsebastian929: tyan or (supermicro if intel maybe)11:10
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SeanTaternonickname: hello11:11
SeanTater@leet nonickname11:11
Ubugtun0n!ckn4m311:11
coreymon77has anybody heard of the hp ipaq h194011:11
h3sp4wnSeanTater: sorry I will pay more attention next time11:11
SeanTaternonickname: try that one11:11
nonicknameSeanTater: why?11:11
SeanTaterh3sp4wn: no big deal11:11
SeanTaternonickname: <sarcasm>11:12
nonicknameah11:12
nonicknamei'm trying to resize a partition11:12
coreymon77does anyone know if you can sync it in kubuntu11:12
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SeanTaterh3sp4wn: I do that all the time11:12
SeanTatercoreymon77: I'm not /sure/, but I'd give a 50% chance11:12
SeanTatercoreymon77: ask #ubuntu also11:12
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nonicknamehmm11:19
shannoncould someone help me with a serial modem problem please?11:19
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thomasmy other computer seems to ahve a bad Xorg, what is the best way to recover it?11:21
nonicknamedoes resizing under parted take a while?11:21
thomashave a bad xorg...11:21
thomasnonickname: i have done it using qtparted which is a graphical version, that is quite quick < minute in all times i have done it11:22
nonicknameah''11:22
thomasparted should be as quick11:23
nonicknameit just finished :p11:23
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thomasqtparted does nothing but run parted with some parameters11:23
Stchi11:23
thomas;)11:23
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thomashi11:23
Stcehm...11:23
thomasnonickname: df -h in konsole will tell you that11:24
Stcwhy in /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.mylanguage don't exist ?11:24
nonicknamethomas: hmm.. i'm guessing my fs needs to be mounted?11:24
Stcin ubuntu this file is here11:25
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thomasnonickname: yes11:25
nonicknameah11:25
thomasor you could see it graphically in qtparted...11:25
nonicknamehmm11:25
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nonicknameah11:26
lavi ,   :)11:26
nonicknamewell, gg.. only 9 gigs used11:26
dec_does anyone know why I can't get sound for videos on the internet what the cause could be?11:26
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nonicknamedec_: could be anything. what video player are you using?11:27
dec_the video is streamed from youtube11:27
nonicknameah11:27
nonicknameother sounds work?11:27
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dec_all other sound works fine11:27
nonicknamehmm11:27
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dec_are there any codecs that I might need11:28
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nonicknamei'm not sure.. i thought youtube used flash11:28
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yanethbuenas tardes11:28
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dec_I believe it is flash11:28
TheFuzzballit is!11:28
dec_the video is perfect but no audio11:28
Stcwhy in /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.mylanguage don't exist ?11:28
TheFuzzballeven though I am not in this conversation :)11:29
nonicknamelol11:29
nonicknametake over, TheFuzzball11:29
dec_the more the better11:29
yanethacabo de instalar kubuntu y no me reproduce musica, ya probe con amarok, kaffeine, lei en internet he instalado libxine-extracodecs11:29
yanethpero ni asi funciona11:29
nonickname!sp11:29
TheFuzzballnonickname: all I know is it uses flash :)11:29
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB11:29
thomas!sp11:29
lavihi all!11:29
skavengeflash has known sound issues, there are workarounds on ubuntuforums11:29
thomas!es11:29
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:29
nonickname:p11:29
nonicknamenow what was that other guy speaking..11:30
nonicknamerussian?11:30
nonickname!ru11:30
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help11:30
thomassi11:30
TheFuzzballBabelfish!11:30
nonicknamelol11:30
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nonicknamebabelfish is wierd x_x11:30
laviWho knows why does kppp freezes, when I try to connect via DKU2 & NOKIA 6230 (usibg gnokii driver)11:30
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TheFuzzballanyway, what did I come on for?11:30
nonicknamei translated microsoft visual studio into japanese, then from the japanese translation back into english, and it said something about seeing eye11:30
TheFuzzballohh yea, how do I update from Dapper to Edgy?11:31
svivianHow can I listen to Shoutcast streams in (K)ubuntu?11:31
DannilionAmarok11:31
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thomassvivian: you need Amarok with the necessary media type codecs11:32
thomasamaroK i guess :P11:32
TheFuzzballis there a channel where you talk about Edgy Eft?11:32
nonicknamethomas: how exactly do i resize with qtparted?11:32
svivianthomas: I have Amarok and the w32 codecs. No joy11:32
TheGateKeeperwhat's the cli command to list all the groups please people?11:32
DannilionI find downloading the listen.pls (Winamp) file to my computer then playing that works great11:32
nonicknameit's telling me that the drive is busy x_x11:33
svivianDannilion: I am trying to listen to a stream off the web11:33
Dannilionyup11:33
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SanneTheFuzzball: there used to be #ubuntu+111:33
TheGateKeeperthomas: what are you trying to play?11:33
Dannilionstill, you can save the listen.pls file, and it'll play the stream for you when opened in Amarok11:33
TheFuzzball!Edgy11:33
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule11:33
thomasI am getting vertical stripes that seems to slide around on my screen....is this fubared vsync or hsync settings somewhere?11:34
TheFuzzballta11:34
SanneTheFuzzball: see? ;)11:34
thomasTheGateKeeper: not mee it was svivian11:34
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thomasi have screen/display/xorg problems on my other machine11:34
TheGateKeepersvivian: what are you trying to play?11:34
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nonickname=(11:35
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svivianTheGateKeeper: I want to be able to listen to .pls streams off the internet11:36
nonicknamethomas: it isn't like i'm deleting linux completely :p11:36
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nonicknameanyhow, i've been without games for nearly a week.. it's horrible11:36
thomas:) i know :P11:36
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boymask2000hi there11:36
TheFuzzballnonickname: use Cedega!11:36
thomashi11:36
nonicknameTheFuzzball: tried it11:37
svivianDannilion: You were right, downloading, then playing seems to do the trick. Thanks!11:37
TheGateKeepersvivian: give me a url, I will see if I can hear them11:37
thomasCegega sucks, imho....for multiplayers11:37
nonicknamecedega gets the same error as wine on the game i tried to play11:37
thomaswhic game?11:37
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Dannilionsvivian, there's probably another way- I just haven't found it yet :P11:37
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boymask2000please, what is "Failed to connect to socket" message when starting gdmsetup ?11:37
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nonicknameit's a multiplayer version of mame11:38
nonicknameie, network play11:38
nonicknameie, internet play11:38
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nonicknameparted still hasn't finished =(11:39
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comrad[JL] anyone know why my resolution won't go above 1024x768 , i have a 17 inch dell flat panel with an nvidia fx5700 :\11:39
comrad[JL] it should be able to go more right?11:40
jordi_How can I mount my DVD device in 'read-only' mode?11:40
comrad[JL] just installed ubuntu yesterday :\11:40
nonicknamejordi_: how can you not mount it in dvd mode?11:40
nonicknameread only, that is11:40
aliasfredjordi_: mount -o ro therestgoes here11:41
jordi_nonickname: and how do i do it?11:41
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nonickname>_>11:42
jordi_when i put a DVD in the device, kubuntu attempts to automount but gets an error11:42
thomashelp!....i can't see any text on my screen at boot-up anymore, not until i get to the kubuntu login screen....11:42
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thomasrerun install cd may be a good idea?11:43
jordi_Konqueror says " unable to mount cause is protected agains writing"11:43
nonicknamejordi_: scroll up to that point where you said my nickname last, and read one line above11:43
nonicknameah.. i dunno11:44
nonicknameahh, lovely11:44
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nonicknameinput/output error during read on /dev/hda11:44
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jordi_I did it before but it does not work!11:45
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nonicknameblarg11:48
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nonicknamelaters guys11:48
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coreymon77anybody know of an activesync program for linux that allows me to connect to my pocket pc to transfer files and install programs?11:50
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jordi_what is a bad superblock?11:58
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JefisHello, anyone Knows how to fix partition bug in Kubuntu dapper?12:04
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Jefisit seams if i partition myself, i can't install12:04
thomas??12:04
thomascan you explain more12:04
thomasJefis: ?12:04
Jefisif i partition myself, kubuntu won't install12:05
thomasare you trying to install from the live CD?12:05
Jefisyes12:05
thomashmmm12:05
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Jefishttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/4719412:06
Martijn81jordi_: _sounds_ like a chunk on the disk is damaged12:06
Jefisis there anyother way , how to install kubuntu?12:06
Jefisi really don't wan't, kubuntu to damage my all system12:07
Jefiswith automatic partitioning12:07
thomasyes12:07
Jefisthomas how?12:07
thomasthere is another way; you can use the alternate text based installer12:07
thomasor another live cd that wil help you partition the disk12:07
thomassuch as gparted live cd12:07
Jefisis this really alternate? , or same code just different GUI ?12:07
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thomasif the bug was with qtparted...qtparted is graphic frontend for parted12:08
Jefisthomas there is qparted in live cd12:08
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Jefisoh12:08
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Jefisem12:08
thomaswhat i am saying try gparted live cd12:08
thomasand use it just to do the partitioning12:09
Jefisok, i'm trying once again12:09
thomasgparted is more up to date than qtparted i think12:09

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