[12:09] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: I have a 7600GT that works very nicely with the drivers from ubuntu.
[12:09] <atomic> as to install realplayer in kunbuntu
[12:09] <fnTc^spNk> i did Sanne
[12:09] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[12:10] <fnTc^spNk> woot
[12:10] <fnTc^spNk> new driver is working fine now
[12:10] <atomic> as to install realplayer in kunbuntu
[12:10] <fnTc^spNk> at least the install
[12:10] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: sounds good
[12:11] <atomic> as to install realplayer in kubuntu
[12:11] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[12:11] <fnTc^spNk> i get some errors
[12:11] <Sanne> !pt
[12:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:12] <fnTc^spNk> you appear to have a modular release
[12:12] <fnTc^spNk> xorg release*
[12:12] <fnTc^spNk> but nvidia could not find the 'pkg-config'
[12:12] <fnTc^spNk> lets install that one first then
[12:12] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: good idea
[12:13] <fnTc^spNk> done :)
[12:14] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: however, I'm not sure I know much about installing the driver from nvidia... I hope it works ;)
[12:14] <fnTc^spNk> hehe
[12:15] <fnTc^spNk> now it says i need the xorg SDK/developement package for my distribution
[12:15] <fnTc^spNk> :\
[12:15] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: if I were you, I would try to get the ubuntu driver working at this stage... might be easier after all.
[12:16] <fnTc^spNk> hehe
[12:16] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: or maybe you just need the development libs for x
[12:16] <fnTc^spNk> i guess ur right
[12:16] <fnTc^spNk> yeah
[12:16] <fnTc^spNk> ill just continue
[12:16] <Sanne> we'll find those, sec
[12:17] <fnTc^spNk> nevermind Sanne
[12:17] <fnTc^spNk> driver works great :D
[12:17] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: maybe those? Should be in adept: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libx11-dev
[12:17] <Ash-Fox> Is there some way I can tell apt-build some build flags for a appliation (in my case it's firefox, and I want to build the QT version, in this case it's passing --enable-default-toolkit=QT to the configure script)
[12:17] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: oh?
[12:17] <fnTc^spNk> :)
[12:17] <fnTc^spNk> at least now it is working
[12:18] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: mystic :)
[12:18] <fnTc^spNk> last time it didnt after i rebooted
[12:18] <fnTc^spNk> :x
[12:18] <fnTc^spNk> ill reboot again
[12:18] <fnTc^spNk> brb
[12:18] <Sanne> ok
[12:19] <dereks_> hey, i have a kubuntu machine (had around a 150 day uptime). I rebooted it because i made some changes to something, and when i booted it back up, i got an ip address (eth0). I lost the ip address soon after. I rand dhclient and it couldn't get me one. So i changed everything back, rebooted... same problem. I remember i had this before on one of my dapper machines but i can't remember how to solve it...
[12:21] <fnTc^spNk> hmm it still works Sanne :D
[12:21] <fnTc^spNk> do you have any experience with Q3 engine + linux?
[12:21] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: good sign, isn't it? You got it all worked out yourself hehe.
[12:22] <fnTc^spNk> yeah i just required 1 package
[12:22] <fnTc^spNk> :/
[12:22] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: Q3 works fine for me, had some sound issues though.
[12:22] <fnTc^spNk> yeah the sound
[12:23] <atomic> as to install realplayer in kubuntu
[12:23] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: for me the solution was, turn off arts, and scrap the onboard sound and put in my old trusty sb 128 pci.
[12:23] <fnTc^spNk> arts?
[12:23] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: the sound server in kubuntu
[12:23] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[12:23] <fnTc^spNk> ALSA right ?
[12:24] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: no, alsa provides the driver. Arts is a sound server like esd for gnome, or jack.
[12:24] <fnTc^spNk> oh ok
[12:24] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: a sound server tries to provide the possibility to have more than one app use the sound device.
[12:25] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: so the apps use alsa through the sound server instead of directly.
[12:25] <fnTc^spNk> hmm i read something about that
[12:25] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: some apps are unable to do that, though, so it might help sometimes to turn the sound server off.
[12:26] <Shafrir> Hi all!
[12:27] <fnTc^spNk> hi
[12:27] <Shafrir> Just installed Kubuntu 6.06
[12:27] <fnTc^spNk> Sanne: someone helped me with the sound before
[12:27] <fnTc^spNk> but then my sudo didnt work anymore so i couldnt do anything
[12:27] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: oh, sounds serious
[12:27] <fnTc^spNk> so ill just ask that person again to help me :)
[12:28] <Shafrir> I have a question: how can I fix the screen shift?
[12:28] <fnTc^spNk> coz they didnt had to disable sound thingy
[12:28] <arthomps> spnk... i'd just reinstall... your comp sounds fubared.
[12:28] <fnTc^spNk> i already did arthomps
[12:28] <otaku-san> Shafrir: cool beans!  What do you mean screen shift?
[12:28] <fnTc^spNk> thats why i had to reinstall my vga driver ;)
[12:29] <otaku-san> Shafrir: explain...like is it off a bit and you see black a bit on the side?
[12:29] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: yes, by all mens, ask the person again, no worries :)
[12:30] <fnTc^spNk> what do u mean Sanne ?
[12:31] <Sanne> I'm referring to: fnTc^spNk> so ill just ask that person again to help me :)
[12:31] <Sanne> brb, coffee
[12:31] <Shafrir> /me
[12:32] <andi_> how can i formate a exttern disk ?
[12:32] <dr_willis> andi_,  Huh?
[12:34] <Shafrir>  ?
[12:36] <djon> salut a tous
[12:36] <fnTc^spNk> Sanne: u mean that my sudo wont work again? :P
[12:36] <Shafrir> ***Falling to sleep
[12:37] <djon> problme avec gtk+ qq peut t'il m'aider?
[12:39] <Sanne> back
[12:39] <word> Ok..so i have a problem where when i leave my computer on for about 2 days...things start getting funky memory fills up etc. lots of seek errors (87% sure not an hd error) then when i restart Xgl doesn't start up..I got the output from dmesg after having it on for a couple days - http://pastebin.ca/156686 and after it fails to start up - http://pastebin.ca/156688 I just now realized on this occurance of the problem..that by doing /etc/init.d/kdm
[12:39] <word> hink this is kdm's fault or something but this never happened with X...any ideas?
[12:39] <madman__> Sanne: wb
[12:40] <dr_willis> well.. try not using xgl.
[12:40] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: I hope it will... I never encountered a non working sudo. All I know is that you need to be in the admin group, I think.
[12:40] <ironfroggy> how can i tell something to be installed along with its recommended packages?
[12:41] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[12:41] <fnTc^spNk> wait ill show u something maybe u know where to put it
[12:41] <fnTc^spNk> sec
[12:41] <Sanne> ok
[12:42] <dereks_> so is asnyone able to tell me why i randomly lose my ip/network connection?
[12:42] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[12:42] <fnTc^spNk> !paste
[12:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:42] <fnTc^spNk> http://www.xfire.be/?x=journal&mode=item&id=17296#319012
[12:42] <fnTc^spNk> read Meez's post Sanne
[12:43] <Sanne> ok
[12:44] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: ah, I tried this also, but after I switched soundcards, I didn't need to do this anymore.
[12:44] <fnTc^spNk> oh ok
[12:44] <soulrider> id otn know why
[12:44] <fnTc^spNk> but i dont have other sound card
[12:44] <soulrider> but if i leave azureus open for like 15 hours and im not on the Pc
[12:44] <soulrider> when i come back tot he PCE KDE is all locked up and i gotta restart x server
[12:45] <fnTc^spNk> but Sanne do u know where to put those lines?
[12:45] <kutan> !smell
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <John-Z> Does anyone use bitlbee here?
[12:45] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: I had some success with that, I got sound, but after a moment Q3 locked up hard and the sound began to stutter. I don't know the exact cause of that, it went away with my soundblaster.
[12:46] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[12:46] <fnTc^spNk> well others say it works
[12:46] <fnTc^spNk> so i could alway try i guess
[12:46] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: you need to execute those lines in a terminal as root, and pay attention to what Meez sais, use tab completion to get the correct file in /proc
[12:46] <Larynx> what is SCIM?
[12:47] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[12:47] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: there's also a topic about that in ubuntuforums (which I used)
[12:47] <fnTc^spNk> yeah
[12:48] <fnTc^spNk> h,,
[12:48] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[12:48] <fnTc^spNk> Sanne: it says acces denied
[12:48] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: you need to prepend the command with sudo
[12:48] <Charims> crimsun: ping
[12:48] <fnTc^spNk> i did :/
[12:49] <Sanne> oh!
[12:50] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: here's one of the threads: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84103&highlight=direct+quake3
[12:50] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: second post
[12:52] <fnTc^spNk> hmm
[12:52] <fnTc^spNk> Sanne: im not playing Q3, dunno if u noticed
[12:52] <fnTc^spNk> so i just have to set et.x86 instead of Q3.x86?
[12:53] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk: I think youneed to put the name of the binary, is this et.x86 for Enemy Territory?
[12:53] <fnTc^spNk> yes
[12:54] <Sanne> yes, then that would be correct, I guess.
[12:54] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, whats the prob with et....maby i can help
[12:54] <fnTc^spNk> the sound
[12:54] <fnTc^spNk> =)
[12:54] <SpAwN> no sound...weird noises?
[12:54] <SpAwN> pls elaborate
[12:54] <fnTc^spNk> no sound :)
[12:55] <Zamboulie> ay
[12:55] <Zamboulie> wadup
[12:55] <SpAwN> allright and sound obviously works in other things...ie movies and u can listen to music?
[12:55] <fnTc^spNk> yes
[12:55] <Zamboulie> !mp3
[12:55] <Charims> haha, seems to be a common problem... have you guys seen the "Comprehensive sound problems solutions guide" on the the ubuntu forums?
[12:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:55] <SpAwN> k
[12:55] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, do this
[12:55] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, open a console and type "killall artsd" no "s ...then type et to start the game
[12:57] <fnTc^spNk> i did SpAwN
[12:57] <fnTc^spNk> what now
[12:57] <Charims> crimsun: ping
[12:57] <SpAwN> well did u hafe sunds?
[12:57] <SpAwN> *have
[12:57] <fnTc^spNk> nope
[12:57] <SpAwN> the killall artsd will only free the sound device
[12:57] <SpAwN> allright
[12:57] <fnTc^spNk> uh?
[12:57] <fnTc^spNk> i was still hearing music
[12:58] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, k
[12:58] <fnTc^spNk> ------- sound initialization -------
[12:58] <fnTc^spNk> Could not open /dev/dsp
[12:58] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, stop any music
[12:58] <fnTc^spNk> ------- sound initialization -------
[12:58] <fnTc^spNk> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[12:58] <fnTc^spNk> Could not open /dev/dsp
[12:58] <SpAwN> anything that is sung sound
[12:58] <fnTc^spNk> ok
[12:58] <SpAwN> *using
[12:58] <SpAwN> no music...nothing
[12:58] <fnTc^spNk> done
[12:58] <SpAwN> once u do that
[12:58] <SpAwN> rerun killall artsd
[12:58] <SpAwN> then imediatly start ey
[12:58] <SpAwN> *et
[12:59] <fnTc^spNk> still no sound
[12:59] <SpAwN> alot of programs will use all of the sound device and not let anything else use
[12:59] <SpAwN> hmmm
[12:59] <SpAwN> well that error is a clue to somthing is still using the sound device
[01:00] <fnTc^spNk> ------- sound initialization -------
[01:00] <fnTc^spNk> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[01:00] <fnTc^spNk> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[01:00] <fnTc^spNk> ------------------------------------
[01:00] <soulrider> problems with ET?
[01:00] <fnTc^spNk> yup
[01:01] <soulrider> i could get sound working
[01:01] <soulrider> but only once :P
[01:01] <fnTc^spNk> lol
[01:01] <SpAwN> my sound works everytime
[01:01] <Charims> haha, today is sound problem day, just DON"T COMPILE YOUR OWN ALSA DRIVER! or u'll have problems....
[01:01] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, when u do killall artsd....does it say anything
[01:02] <Charims> unless ure not a noob, then do whatever you want
[01:02] <fnTc^spNk> no
[01:02] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, k
[01:02] <skavenge> i can get it every time but you've got echo a couple commands to /proc/asound .. found that fix on the forums
[01:02] <soulrider> im a noob
[01:02] <fnTc^spNk> i didnt Charims .
[01:02] <Charims> good ;)
[01:02] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, try sudo killall artsd
[01:02] <Charims> i did.. crimsun has been helping me through it...
[01:02] <fnTc^spNk> doesnt say anything
[01:02] <Charims> it opens up a can of worms...
[01:03] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk, SpAwN: I just found this, might also help: http://www.stacken.kth.se/~vuorio/sound.en.php
[01:03] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, even when u sue sudo?.....try it a few times using sudo
[01:03] <skavenge> its cause et uses OSS thats half the problem ;/
[01:03] <fnTc^spNk> yes SpAwN
[01:03] <fnTc^spNk> still nothing
[01:04] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, even when u do that command with sudo....it retuns no error
[01:04] <SpAwN> not even no prosses killed
[01:04] <Charims> crimsun: ping
[01:04] <skavenge> what Sanne just posted is what i use, try sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss then sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
[01:04] <fnTc^spNk> nope SpAwN
[01:05] <fnTc^spNk> skavenge: should i make a .sh for that?
[01:05] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, well somthing is hoggin your sound device
[01:05] <fnTc^spNk> or what
[01:05] <fnTc^spNk> :/
[01:05] <skavenge> you could, i dont have to run it ALWAYS but with no sound i run it and it works
[01:05] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, do sudo killall -9 artsd
[01:05] <fnTc^spNk> no processes ended
[01:06] <skavenge> i just use the commands i dont have it scripted myself
[01:06] <Sanne> fnTc^spNk, SpAwN, skavenge: there's also a mention of running et through arts with 'artsdsp -m /path/to/et', might be worth a try also if the other options don't help.
[01:06] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, then w/e was using the sound device is not using it
[01:06] <SpAwN> try running et again
[01:06] <fnTc^spNk> ------- sound initialization -------
[01:06] <fnTc^spNk> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[01:06] <fnTc^spNk> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[01:06] <fnTc^spNk> -----------------------------------
[01:07] <skavenge> try the two sudo commands ;)
[01:07] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, yea u may as well try them commands
[01:07] <Charims> crimsun: ping
[01:07] <SpAwN> Charims, if hes around he will probly anser
[01:08] <Charims> sorry, not trying to spam the channel, hejsut told me to do this yesterday...
[01:08] <fnTc^spNk> ramon@ramon-desktop:~$ echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[01:08] <fnTc^spNk> bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: Toegang geweigerd
[01:08] <fnTc^spNk> even with sudo
[01:08] <fnTc^spNk> it says acces denied
[01:08] <skavenge> try Sanne's then maybe, that one you just did has always worked for me
[01:09] <SpAwN> Charims, yea understandable...but if he dont anser the 1st or 2nd time i doubt he will on a 3rd =d
[01:09] <Charims> haha, sorry, ill stop for a while, maybe about an hour?
[01:10] <fnTc^spNk> those are the same skavenge
[01:10] <Charims> i just need him to fix my kubuntu install so it will run and we can finish up fixing my sound, kubuntu won't even boot up right now..
[01:10] <SpAwN> Charims, i personaly dont care how many times u do it.....but its like a phone and no one picks up.......its not considered polite to call it every 3 mins
[01:10] <Charims> hehe, kk
[01:10] <skavenge> fnTc^spNk: im talking about running it with artsdsp -m /path/to/et he mentioned
[01:10] <fnTc^spNk> uh
[01:10] <fnTc^spNk> :$
[01:11] <SpAwN> Charims, what did u do to make kubuntu not boot/
[01:11] <fnTc^spNk> im noob, what should i run?
[01:11] <SpAwN> fnTc^spNk, hang in there....i gurentee u wil get sound working
[01:11] <fnTc^spNk> :\
[01:11] <Charims> well, i had to get rid of my compiled alsa driver, and crimsun brought me through that..., but now it won't even boot in recovery mode, fails on loading restriced drivers...
[01:11] <Charims> he said we would finish today
[01:12] <skavenge> well id 'locate et' first, once it says where it is, then you do 'artsdsp -m /thepath/et'
[01:12] <Sanne> skavenge, fnTc^spNk: remember to start the arts sound server before that, and I also read it must be set to oss.
[01:13] <skavenge> yeah thats the worst part thats why et's sound is such a headache .. if it was alsa, no prob ;/
[01:13] <fnTc^spNk>  /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et
[01:14] <fnTc^spNk>  artsdsp -m /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et
[01:14] <fnTc^spNk> ?
[01:14] <Xcalibur> how can I log in as root?
[01:14] <Xcalibur> rather than using sudo
[01:15] <Charims> wow, i need to clean my desk...
[01:15] <Xcalibur> ?
[01:15] <fnTc^spNk> su
[01:15] <fnTc^spNk> but it didnt work for me
[01:15] <fnTc^spNk> :p
[01:15] <fnTc^spNk> artsdsp -m /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et.x86
[01:15] <fnTc^spNk> i get
[01:15] <fnTc^spNk> Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg - I am missing essential files - verify your installation?
[01:15] <Xcalibur> anyone?
[01:15] <skavenge> Xcalibur: sudo -i
[01:16] <Sanne> Xcalibur: you might want to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:16] <crimsun> Charims: pong
[01:16] <Charims> hi crimsun
[01:16] <jott_> fnTc^spNk: have you tried "aoss /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et" ?
[01:16] <Charims> crimsunmy comp in the other room is on and botted with the live cd
[01:16] <Charims> booted*
[01:16] <fnTc^spNk> jott_: no
[01:16] <fnTc^spNk> echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[01:16] <fnTc^spNk> works as being root
[01:16] <fnTc^spNk> ;o
[01:17] <Martijn81> Xcalibur: why would you wanna do that?
[01:17] <skavenge> .. you didnt use sudo before?
[01:17] <fnTc^spNk> skavenge: i did
[01:18] <fnTc^spNk> but now i used sudo -i
[01:18] <skavenge> wierd, well thats basically what i do to fix mine heh
[01:18] <fnTc^spNk> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[01:18] <fnTc^spNk> omg
[01:18] <fnTc^spNk> not that again
[01:19] <Xcalibur> ok, I have to be graphically logged in as root, this is to install crossover pro
[01:19] <Nosscire> Could someone please explain to me how to "split" files using tar's? I have a file (a tar.bz2 to be exact) that I must fit on USB stick. The file is almost 500mb, but I only have 400mb on the USB stick.
[01:19] <skavenge> Xcalibur: i seriously doubt you have to be graphically logged in as root to install it
[01:20] <Sanne> Xcalibur: the link I gave you explains how to enable the root account, as far as I understand.
[01:20] <skavenge> Xcalibur: this is coming straight out of thier howto?
[01:20] <Xcalibur> ok
[01:20] <Xcalibur> yeah
[01:20] <Charims> crimsun:my comp in the other room is on and booted with the live cd
[01:21] <Charims> !KDE
[01:21] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:22] <crimsun> Charims: ok, now you need to chroot into your 6.06.1 install
[01:22] <Xcalibur> yo
[01:22] <Xcalibur> I can't log in as root
[01:22] <Charims> crimsun: how do i do that?
[01:22] <Nosscire> come on, someone has got to know... I cant believe that it's very difficoult in realaty?
[01:22] <Xcalibur> it said no root logins
[01:22] <crimsun> !root > Xcalibur
[01:22] <Charims> crimsun: btw, i don't have net access from the livecd..., ok
[01:23] <crimsun> Charims: which partition is your 6.06.1 install?
[01:23] <crimsun> Charims: you don't?
[01:23] <Charims> crimsun: no, and i will either have to compile ndiswrapper, or get my etherent to work, etherenet would be asier
[01:23] <skavenge> ndiswrapper is on the cd
[01:23] <Charims> easier*
[01:23] <crimsun> ndiswrapper-utils is included, yes
[01:24] <Charims> crimsun: do i need net access there, it would be easier anyways so i can talk with u there
[01:24] <crimsun> yes, it's much easier if you have it
[01:25] <Charims> crimsun: ok, i will go compile ndiswrapper, take my usb stick from here after i'm done, so i will be disconnected for a bit...
[01:25] <crimsun> you don't need to compile ndiswrapper. It's already on the live cd.
[01:25] <Charims> crimsun: ok, well, i need to set it up then...
[01:25] <Xcalibur> ok
[01:25] <Xcalibur> I used kdesu
[01:25] <Xcalibur> it worked
[01:26] <skavenge> exactly ..
[01:27] <Charims> crimsun: installing ndiswrapper
[01:28] <word> Ok..so i have a problem where when i leave my computer on for about 2 days...things start getting funky memory fills up etc. lots of seek errors (87% sure not an hd error) then when i restart Xgl doesn't start up..I got the output from dmesg after having it on for a couple days - http://pastebin.ca/156686 and after it fails to start up - http://pastebin.ca/156688 I just now realized on this occurance of the problem..that by doing /etc/init.d/kdm
[01:28] <word> hink this is kdm's fault or something but this never happened with X...any ideas?
[01:28] <Xcalibur> yo
[01:28] <Xcalibur> anyone here know where crossover pro installs windows apps?
[01:30] <Charims> crimsun: hey,  adept won't install the package, what command do i use to install a .deb file? is is sudo sh ?
[01:30] <Charims> it*
[01:30] <crimsun> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[01:31] <Sanne> night all
[01:31] <Charims> crimsun: replace foo with the name right?
[01:31] <Charims> crimsun: hee hee, never seen that usage before
[01:31] <kutan> So
[01:31] <kutan> Folks
[01:32] <Larynx> how do you read a .txt in a terminal?
[01:32] <skavenge> nano
[01:32] <kutan> Beat me to it D:
[01:32] <jexsie> more
[01:33] <Larynx> :/
[01:36] <kutan> So.. I've worn out frozen-bubble and supertux
[01:36] <kutan> Any other good games?
[01:37] <Charims> crimsun: moving usb ma111 wireless stick to other comp, bye bye
[01:38] <skavenge> chromium, abuse for dinky games, enemy territory or tremulous for FPS, freecraft (i think) for a warcraft clone, etc etc
[01:39] <misieq> !metabar!metabar
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metabar!metabar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <misieq> !metabar
[01:39] <ubotu> metabar: Context sensitive sidebar plugin for Konqueror. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 372 kB
[01:39] <atomic> oi some one knows to help to comfigurar kaffeine to read dvds
[01:40] <atomic> oi some one knows to help to comfig kaffeine to read dvds
[01:40] <Tokeiito> good night
[01:40] <atomic> oi some one knows to help to comfig kaffeine to read dvds
[01:41] <misieq> !dvd
[01:41] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:41] <skavenge> atomic: its on the restricted formats oage under 'playing encrypted dvds' as well
[01:41] <Charims89> crimsun: sorry, had to go back to the other comp, ndiswrapper recognizes my hardware, but the wireless assistant doesn't
[01:42] <Charims89> crimsun: so yeah, it worked on my install of kubuntu, but apparently the liveCD doesn't like me, maybe we can go through my ethernet?
[01:43] <crimsun> Charims89: whichever works for you.
[01:44] <Charims89> crimsun: i'm not sure how to get the ethernet to work though.. not even sure of my hardware with it...
[01:47] <crimsun> Charims89: look at whether it's detected: ``ifconfig -a''
[01:52] <Mike|> hi
[01:52] <Mike|> anybody home?
[01:52] <danex_> Hello
[01:52] <Mike|> i had some trouble getting kubuntu going under vmware last night. Is there a known problem or did I just have bad luck?
[01:54] <Mike|> things kept wanting to not load. I'd launch them, the cursor bounced around for a bit and then it would die. Ubiquity did it 4 times
[01:54] <danex_> Sorry, I am too new to linux
[01:54] <Mike|> then i installed vmware tools and somehow that broke networking
[01:54] <Mike|> ok
[01:55] <Mike|> slickest OS installer i've ever seen, at least when it finally worked
[01:55] <danex_> My laptop will only boot linux when on the docking station
[01:56] <kutan> I have a problem!
[01:56] <danex_> Otherwise it hangs on mounting file system
[01:57] <kutan> Alright the problem is the fact that on windows I was able to play world of warcraft with no lag whatsoever, but when I play a really low detail game like x-moto on linux, it's as slow as oblivion would be.
[01:57] <kutan> What's up with that?
[01:58] <kutan> The same thing happens with chromium
[01:58] <kutan> Anyone have a solution?
[01:59] <Mike|> have you checked for an updated graphics driver? 3d support might not be enabled
[01:59] <kutan> I have
[01:59] <Mike|> i had a problem like that on suse once
[01:59] <kutan> I tried installing it too
[01:59] <kutan> But it gives me an error
[02:02] <andi_> Now I'm in pico and want to save and there stands ^O=Save but h I can't write ^O so whats to do ?
[02:02] <skavenge> try ctrl+o
[02:03] <andi_> it works
[02:03] <andi_> thx
[02:03] <skavenge> np
[02:03] <Charims> crimsun: sorry got disconnected
[02:04] <Charims> crimsun: ethernet would be best to prevent loss of signal, like i jsut got, this usb stick gets less reliable as time goes along
[02:04] <crimsun> 19:47 < crimsun> Charims89: look at whether it's detected: ``ifconfig -a''
[02:04] <Charims> crimsun: it is
[02:05] <Charims> crimsun: you need specs?
[02:05] <kutan> Hmmmm
[02:05] <kutan> !nopaste
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <kutan> What is that again?
[02:06] <Charims> ccrimsun: Nvidia corp. Mcp2a ethernet controller
[02:07] <Charims> thats according to Kinfo
[02:07] <kutan> http://rafb.net/paste/results/1bgxUU40.html
[02:08] <kutan> That's the error I get when I try to install the update for my NVIDIA card
[02:08] <Charims> crimsun: are you there?
[02:08] <crimsun> Charims: yes, but please don't expect me to respond within 2 seconds. I'm on the phone.
[02:08] <Mike|> kutan, you probably need to install the developer package. build-essential
[02:09] <Charims> crimsun: oops, sorry, i jsut posted a lot of things...
[02:09] <Mike|> i spent 2 hours last night figuring that out myself ^_^
[02:09] <kutan> lol
[02:09] <kutan> Alright I just installed it... time to try again
[02:10] <Mike|> might need the kernel headers too
[02:11] <kutan> brb
[02:12] <Charims> crimsun: gonna try wireless again, brb
[02:14] <driz> hey guys i am trying to get this tar.gz file to install and such but i am stuck i just did ./configure i think it worked but I don't know whats nxt
[02:14] <driz> next*
[02:14] <Mike|> make
[02:14] <Mike|> make install
[02:14] <Mike|> in that order
[02:14] <driz> sudo make install or make install <pakage name>
[02:15] <Mike|> cd to that directory and just type sudo make install
[02:15] <driz> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[02:15] <driz> i am in the directory
[02:16] <kutan> Okay so I don't have that error anymore
[02:16] <Mike|> ...
[02:16] <kutan> I have a new one
[02:16] <Mike|> driz, you have gcc installed? or the build-essential package?
[02:17] <driz> build-essential package
[02:17] <GameCat> hi, can someone tell me how to get kuickshow?
[02:17] <Mike|> try 'sudo make' first
[02:17] <driz> ok
[02:17] <Mike|> then sudo make install
[02:17] <Mike|> sometimes you can do one, sometimes you need both. i'm not sure what the difference is
[02:18] <GameCat> Mike|: you shouldn't need to be root until the install
[02:18] <kutan> http://rafb.net/paste/results/55JwMX86.html
[02:18] <kutan> That's the new error I get from trying to install the new drivers
[02:18] <Mike|> ok. that's just how i've always done it
[02:18] <Mike|> kutan, now you need the kernel headers
[02:19] <Mike|> do a uname -r to see which kernel you've got, then look for the headers for that in adept
[02:19] <kutan> 2.6.15-26-386
[02:19] <kutan> What would I look for? >_>
[02:20] <Mike|> search for header in adept and you should see that listed somewhere
[02:20] <kutan> ah okay
[02:20] <driz> Mike| for some reason it wont work
[02:20] <Charims> crimsun: nope, won't accept my usb stick
[02:20] <Mike|> well... i have no idea then
[02:21] <driz> oh11111111111
[02:21] <crimsun> Charims: weren't you going to use your wired connection?
[02:21] <crimsun> Did you paste the output somewhere?
[02:22] <Charims> crimsun: no, i can't paste the output, no conn. and i want to use the wired conn., but it isn't working either.. :(
[02:22] <kutan> Mike| "linux-image-2.6.15-26-386"?
[02:22] <Charims> crimsun: both are detected under ifconfig
[02:22] <red> im having a problem installing flash thru the konsoe
[02:22] <kutan> Cause it already says that's installed
[02:22] <driz> error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! what does this mean
[02:22] <red> konsole
[02:22] <driz> ?
[02:22] <Mike|> no...... i'm pretty sure it says headers in the package name
[02:23] <Mike|> i did it last night. i'm pretty sure i remember it having the word headers in the name
[02:23] <andi_> I tried to play a mp3 with amorak but it didn't worked :( when ich klicked on play hey ended !!
[02:23] <Mike|> linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 <-- similar to this
[02:24] <kutan> Mike| "linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386"?
[02:24] <kutan> oh
[02:24] <kutan> yeah
[02:24] <kutan> heh
[02:24] <Mike|> yeah, that looks right
[02:24] <kutan> Okay I'll download that
[02:24] <GameCat> driz: what configure line are you using?
[02:24] <driz> what do you mean?
[02:24] <mad_man> using xchat can the quit and joined of users be turned off in the Discussion Area ? can't seem to find in preferences for control
[02:25] <kutan> time to restart and try again
[02:25] <GameCat> driz: you are trying to compile something to get that error yes? what command did you use to start the configure?
[02:25] <driz> ./configure
[02:25] <GameCat> driz: try "./configure --prefix=/usr --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/"
[02:26] <driz> GameCat: as is
[02:26] <GameCat> without the " yeah
[02:26] <red> how do i install flash version 7
[02:27] <crimsun> Charims: so bring the wired interface up (presuming it's connected via cat 5e or whatnot)
[02:27] <rolando> hi
[02:27] <rolando> how can i make kpersonalizer not to start everytime i start my computer?
[02:27] <driz> GameCat: ya ok so then so i understand this, Whats the difference?
[02:27] <Mike|> red: extract the archive somewhere (assuming it comes as a tar.gz), cd to the directory in a terminal
[02:27] <rolando> i tried removing it but it wants to remove also kdebase
[02:27] <Mike|> red: sudo ./configure
[02:27] <Mike|> make
[02:27] <Mike|> make install
[02:27] <red> ok
[02:28] <Mike|> sorry. sudo make and sudo make install
[02:28] <Charims> crimsun: i don't know where to go to bring it up
[02:28] <GameCat> driz: it is a kde app so it needs qt3, and the libs are in a non-standard place on ubuntu/debian, and the prefix tells it where the rest of kde is
[02:29] <rolando> so no ideas with kpersonalizer?
[02:29] <GameCat> driz: or do you want the long version? :)
[02:29] <red> i think im typing something in wrong, i extracted it to a folder on the desktop, and still cant get the command right in the konsole
[02:30] <Mike|> rolando, you've checked ~/.kde/autostart to see if it's got an icon there?
[02:30] <crimsun> Charims: KDE provides a graphical utility, or you can use the ifup command in Konsole
[02:30] <nagyv> how can I switch off the mouse wheel to change windows if I am near the sides of the desktop?
[02:30] <Charims> crimsun: ill check again for the graphical util.
[02:31] <Mike|> red: you've changed to that directory?
[02:31] <red> i got to the home directory but i need to get to the desktop and the folder is there
[02:31] <Mike|> what's the name of the folder
[02:31] <Mike|> ?
[02:32] <red> flash
[02:32] <driz> GameCat i think i see the problem: configure: WARNING: libjpeg not found. disable JPEG support.
[02:32] <Mike|> cd ~/Desktop/flash
[02:32] <Mike|> in konsole
[02:32] <Mike|> or console
[02:32] <Mike|> whatever you're using
[02:32] <GameCat> driz: what are you compiling?
[02:32] <red> i didnt put the little wavy thing in
[02:32] <driz> kio_psp-0.1.1
[02:32] <Mike|> ~ = /home/yourusername =)
[02:33] <red> that worked for the directory
[02:33] <Mike|> try the commands again
[02:34] <rolando_> Mike|: how did you solve that problem?
[02:34] <Mike|> what problem?
[02:34] <rolando_> getting kpersonalizer everytime you log in
[02:34] <rolando_> in autostart this is all i have
[02:34] <rolando_> ~/.kde/Autostart/.directory
[02:34] <Mike|> i haven't had the problem
[02:34] <rolando_> you have 3.5.4?
[02:35] <Mike|> not really no
[02:35] <Mike|> but that's how kde usually autostarts something
[02:35] <GameCat> driz: that just compiled here - you must be missing some dev libs
[02:35] <notech> is there a ~/.kde/apps or something with kpersonalizer in it?
[02:35] <driz> oh shocks
[02:36] <Mike|> i don't actually have kubuntu at all at the moment. I had problems making it play nice in vmware last night
[02:36] <Mike|> gonna try again tonight
[02:36] <nagyv> is there a script or setup option that switches off the touchpad if a usb mouse is plugged in, and switches it on if necessary?
[02:37] <GameCat> driz: if you are still getting the qt error it means you need to install the qt3 dev files
[02:38] <rolando_> i see
[02:38] <rolando_> this is the problem and some workaround
[02:38] <rolando_> http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/15137/KDE-wizard-after-every-reboot-why.html
[02:38] <rolando_> thanx
[02:38] <driz> GameCat
[02:38] <GameCat> driz: yes?
[02:39] <Mike|> oh... i thought kpersonalizer was the name of some app
[02:39] <driz> I don't have a registered name sorry
[02:40] <GameCat> driz:  what do you get if you do "dpkg --list libqt3*"
[02:40] <driz> GameCat: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[02:40] <Mike|> so anyone know of a conflict between kubuntu, vmware and vmware tools? I had issues last night....
[02:40] <GameCat> lloks for libqt3-mt and libqt3-mt-dev
[02:41] <driz> GameCat and it doesnt seem to have none of them but one file installed
[02:41] <nagyv> is there a script or setup option that switches off the touchpad if a usb mouse is plugged in, and switches it on if necessary?
[02:41] <driz> !paste
[02:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:42] <GameCat> driz: okay, do "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-headers libqt3-compat-headers" all on one line
[02:42] <charims88> crimsun: I'm back again, no luck...
[02:43] <crimsun> charims88: weren't you going to use the wired interface?
[02:43] <charims88> crimsun: yes
[02:44] <crimsun> charims88: so did you ifup the iface?
[02:44] <soulrider> is anyone here using azureus?
[02:44] <charims88> crimsun: how do i use ifup?
[02:45] <GameCat> driz: once they are installed, you just need one more  - "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev"
[02:45] <driz> GameCat how come this doesnt come with KDE
[02:45] <crimsun> charims88: ifup iface
[02:45] <GameCat> driz: it does, just not with ubuntu
[02:46] <driz> wow that suck
[02:46] <GameCat> driz: all distro's make decisions - ubuntu decided not to use space in the default install for the compiling support
[02:46] <dr_willis> soulrider,  i have used it.. but i perfer ktorrent or even utorrent + wine
[02:46] <driz> oh ok
[02:46] <soulrider> the thing is
[02:46] <GameCat> driz: that kind of decision is why it all fits on one cd :)
[02:46] <soulrider> io installed it
[02:46] <soulrider> and when i leav eit on overnight and come int he morning
[02:46] <driz> oh ok
[02:46] <soulrider> my KDE is all lcoked up
[02:46] <soulrider> i gotta restart xserver
[02:46] <charims88> crimsun: it said "ignoring unkown interface iface=iface."
[02:47] <driz> lol not the five CD install from some of the other Distros
[02:47] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !real media
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <Mike|> be nice if they made a prominent note of that when it installs.... "if you need to compile programs from source, you will need to do the following....."
[02:47] <Mike|> something like that
[02:47] <soulrider> and i dont know if its a problem of it using too much mem
[02:47] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !rm player
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rm player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <soulrider> or what
[02:47] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Hmmmmmm
[02:47] <Mike|> i spent 2 hours last trying to figure out where gcc was
[02:47] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> we got anything to play real media files?
[02:47] <soulrider> !w32codecs
[02:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:48] <soulrider> there
[02:48] <Mike|> well, figuring it out, installing it, figuring out i need4ed the headers too, installing that, etc etc
[02:48] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Ummmmmm
[02:48] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> :/
[02:48] <charims88> crimsun: i just now entered ifup eth0, it said "interface eth0 already configured"
[02:48] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> this crap is to dam generic....
[02:48] <Martijn81> crap?
[02:48] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmmm  must b an echo in here..
[02:49] <soulrider> its not generic
[02:49] <soulrider> its awesome
[02:49] <charims88> crimsun: i just used ifdown first, and now ifup, it is disovering dhcp
[02:49] <soulrider> just read hte wiki
[02:49] <soulrider> theres a lot of help there
[02:50] <CaBlGuY> Riiiiiiiight...    :/
[02:50] <CaBlGuY>     thanks for nothin..
[02:50] <CaBlGuY> AGIAN
[02:50] <charims88> crimsun: it reports: no DHCPOFFERS recieved, no working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[02:52] <Larynx> lo?
[02:52] <jexsie> Hii....
[02:52] <Larynx> i have a question
[02:53] <jexsie> Can I help  me ???
[02:53] <Larynx> que?
[02:53] <jexsie> Spanish ??
[02:53] <Larynx> no
[02:53] <jexsie> Holas...
[02:53] <Martijn81> nope, just ask  Larynx
[02:53] <kutan> Alright someone in here just helped me install the new drivers for my NVIDIA card
[02:53] <kutan> and it was successful
[02:54] <kutan> Sort of...
[02:54] <Larynx> what is dapper and warty and all that?
[02:54] <jexsie> Alguien podria ayudarme con un problema de inicio de sesion en mi kubunu??
[02:54] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> for future reference...
[02:54] <kutan> The installation finished but when I rebooted it completely stops when it's on the loading screen.
[02:54] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> https://player.helixcommunity.org/
[02:54] <Martijn81> es! > jexsie
[02:54] <DaSkreech> Larynx: Releases of the Distro?
[02:54] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> your fukn welcome.. :|
[02:54] <jexsie> Martijn81, es ??
[02:54] <Larynx> DaSkreech: how do you know wich one u have?
[02:55] <Martijn81> !es > jexsie
[02:55] <Martijn81> sry
[02:55] <DaSkreech> Larynx: lsb_release -a or cat/etc/issue
[02:55] <DaSkreech> cat /etc/issue
[02:55] <Larynx> thnx
[02:55] <kutan> Anyone? =\
[02:56] <GameCat> kutan: which card do you have?
[02:56] <DaSkreech> Which Loading screen?
[02:56] <charims> crimsun: apparently its not likeing my DHCP invites from my router, i did some router configs to see if that would fix it, becuase normally this mac address is reserved for my windows install, which has a different name...
[02:56] <kutan> NVIDIA Fx somethin or other
[02:57] <kutan> Right now I'm using the live DVD I have for kubuntu to use Konversation
[02:57] <GameCat> kutan: is it on the list here? http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html
[02:58] <Kr4t05> Okay, why are the us.archieve.ubuntu.com repos hanging?
[02:58] <Mike|> charims, what is you're trying to do exactly? get an IP address assigned?
[02:58] <kutan> Nope, it's not on there
[02:58] <charims88> crimsun: trying to connect to my network using ifup with a livecd
[02:59] <Mike|> or crimsun... whoever's having the problem
[02:59] <charims88> crimsun: both ndiswrapper and ifup arn't working...
[02:59] <GameCat> kutan: is it hanging when it starts X?
[02:59] <kutan> yep
[02:59] <kutan> I've restarted multiple times
[02:59] <Martijn81> kutan: do you have xgl installed maybe?
[02:59] <kutan> ...xgl?
[03:00] <Martijn81> that's probably would be a no then
[03:00] <Mike|> heh
[03:00] <kutan> Unless it's already there, no.
[03:00] <Martijn81> which is good
[03:00] <Martijn81> ok
[03:00] <GameCat> kutan: you might want to try booting into text only mode, then installing the legacy nvidia drivers anyway - i use them with a geforce4 here - that's not on the list either.."sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy"
[03:01] <kutan> Alright
[03:01] <kutan> hold on, gonna write that down =X
[03:02] <derek> hello
[03:02] <derek> can somebody explain to me how to install xgl
[03:03] <kutan> Alright I'll be back with an update :D
[03:03] <GameCat> do you know how to get to text mode? use recovery mode boot
[03:03] <charims88> what is the KDE GUI program for wired network configurating?
[03:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell derek about xgl
[03:03] <kutan> Yeah I know :P
[03:03] <charims88> !xgl
[03:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:03] <GameCat> just checking :)
[03:03] <GameCat> then just startx after the install, no need to reboot to test
[03:04] <Kr4t05> Mkay...
[03:04] <Kr4t05> On the same tangent, is there any way to launch Xorg in a separate TTY?
[03:04] <charims88> what is the KDE GUI program for wired network configurating?
[03:04] <GameCat> as in run 2 x sessions on one machine?
[03:06] <GameCat> Kr4t05: what do you mean - run 2 X sessions?
[03:06] <derek> can an actual person explain how to install xgl? lol
[03:06] <DaSkreech> Is there someway to get Kopete to do Spellchecking?
[03:06] <DaSkreech> !xgl
[03:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:06] <Kr4t05> GameCat: Something like that. I run XGL in TTY7.
[03:06] <DaSkreech> Try those derek
[03:07] <GameCat> Kr4t05: doesn't the switch user stuff in the K menu work with xgl then?
[03:08] <Kr4t05> GameCat: Maybe?
[03:08] <GameCat> that spawns a new X session
[03:08] <charims88> crimsun: it seems i am unable to connect to the net :(
[03:08] <GameCat> Kr4t05: k > switch user > start new session
[03:08] <Jucato> I think it does, but you have to use a different user I think
[03:08] <GameCat> should get you a new X session and a kde login screen
[03:08] <charims88> crimsun: my computer is not getting an DHCPINVITE
[03:09] <GameCat> oh yeah, can't really do it as the same user
[03:09] <Mike|> charims88, you just need an IP address?
[03:10] <charims88> Mike| can i configure a static one since DHCP isn't working?
[03:10] <Mike|> yes
[03:10] <Larynx> can anyone find this package --> build-essential fakeroot gcc3.4
[03:10] <Mike|> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.whatever
[03:10] <andi_> Now I want to ad a new link for adept ! Is it all right if i only make ad and enable oder must i write universe and multiverse or only universe or multiverse or .... ?
[03:10] <Mike|> or however the ip addresses go on your network
[03:10] <Jucato> Larynx: those are 3 packages
[03:11] <Larynx> that explains
[03:11] <Larynx> thnx
[03:11] <andi_> +add
[03:11] <Mike|> ...
[03:11] <charims88> kk, ty
[03:12] <Mike|> oh, there you are. i saw your clone error out and panicked for a second
[03:12] <Jucato> lol
[03:12] <derek> !ati
[03:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> Can konversation do split window? So I can see what's going on in 2 channels w/o tab flipping?
[03:13] <charims> haha its fine
[03:13] <Warbo> Has anyone tried compiling/installing MusicMan? I am getting a problem that QT headers/libraries cannot be found ("checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"). I have even installed every package containing "qt" and "dev", but no luck
[03:13] <Larynx> cant find gcc3.4 :<
[03:13] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: AFAIK, no
[03:13] <charims> i don't know what happened to crimsun tho
[03:13] <Warbo> !info gcc-3.4
[03:13] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.6-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 482 kB, installed size 4532 kB
[03:13] <Warbo> There it is
[03:13] <charims> maybe he had to do sumthing
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> Jucato: know of any that can?
[03:14] <Jucato> Larynx: gcc-3.4 not gcc3.4
[03:14] <Larynx> Jucato: thanx
[03:14] <Jucato> Larynx: any reason you would need that particular version? the latest is gcc-4.0
[03:14] <charims> Mike| do i still have to ifdown after that and ifup again?
[03:14] <charims> mike| becuase both ways it didn't work
[03:14] <Larynx> Jucato: no im just following the instructions on the support site
[03:14] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: unfortunately, no...
[03:14] <Jucato> aah
[03:14] <Mike|> um...
[03:15] <Mike|> shut it down first
[03:15] <Mike|> then give it the address
[03:15] <Mike|> and that'll turn it back on
[03:15] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: you might want to give XChat a try
[03:15] <Mike|> i guess ifdown will do that. i've never used it. i use ifconfig eth0 down to shut mine down
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> Yah, I'll check that - I used to use that, but don't remember.
[03:15] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: or you could use Kopete for IRC, then just detach the tabs so you will have separate  windows per room...
[03:16] <Larynx> Jucato: will it make any big difference if i dl the latest version?
[03:16] <Jucato> Larynx: I'm not sure, but build-essential will download gcc-4.0 and that will be used as the default
[03:16] <joe__>  hi, I'd like to set up shortcut keys in kde to be like emacs. Where should I look?
[03:17] <Jucato> Larynx: if the thing you are trying to compile needs gcc-3.4 specifically, you would need to do some extra steps
[03:17] <charims> Mike| well, looking at my netgear rount page, i see it trying to connect as 192.168.0.5 ..., under the name HOST1 , but linux doesnt like it
[03:17] <GameCat> charims: sorry to butt in - try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" rather than reboot
[03:17] <Jucato> joe__: you could start in System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:17] <Mike|> charims: what is the IP of the machine you're using to get in here?
[03:17] <joe__> Jucato: thanks so much
[03:18] <Larynx> Jucato: ok
[03:18] <ramon> i need to use alsaconf, how do i install that ? :<
[03:19] <ramon> !alsaconf
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsaconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <Mike|> hrm...... i've managed to break one of my virtual machines......
[03:19] <ramon> !alsa
[03:19] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[03:19] <obf213> hey i keep getting an error message everytime i log on
[03:19] <Jucato> what error message?
[03:20] <Kutan> Well
[03:20] <Kutan> It worked
[03:20] <obf213> saying that that some composite extenstion not found
[03:20] <dr_willis> Jucato,  ya ruined it! :)
[03:20] <dr_willis> lol.
[03:20] <Jucato> wow! dr_willis is here! :-D
[03:20] <Kutan> It stopped hangin up at the loading screen
[03:20] <Jucato> sorry ehehe
[03:20] <obf213> You must use XOrg  6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.
[03:20] <obf213> Additionally, you need to add a new section to your X config file:
[03:20] <obf213> Section "Extensions"
[03:20] <obf213> Option "Composite" "Enable"
[03:20] <obf213> EndSection
[03:20] <dr_willis> dayshift this week.. going to sleep soon.
[03:20] <GameCat> Kutan: excellent
[03:20] <Kutan> now it's hanging up at the blank screen right before I get to the login screen. -_-
[03:20] <obf213> i get that message
[03:20] <obf213> and then i get another one too that says composite manager crahsed twice and is disabled
[03:20] <GameCat> Kutan: or not :/
[03:20] <obf213> like verytime i log on
[03:20] <dr_willis> dont enable the composite extension perhaps?
[03:21] <Jucato> obf213: you're trying to use window transparencies and shadows, but don't have composite enabled
[03:21] <charims> Mike| the ip of this comp shouldn't matter, its a separate laptop
[03:21] <obf213> o i though i disabled that
[03:21] <ramon> what package should i install if i want to use alsaconf ?
[03:21] <Jucato> obf213: go to System Settings > Desktop > Window Behavior > Translucency tab > disable Use transluceny/shadows
[03:21] <Mike|> charims, i was fishing for your subnet address. the one that won't connect might be trying to connect under the wrong one
[03:22] <Jucato> dr_willis: eheheh! sorry for ruining an almost perfect moment... :-D
[03:22] <Mike|> give it an IP one number higher than the IP of whatever you're using now
[03:22] <obf213> jucato thanks
[03:22] <Mike|> on the last octet
[03:23] <charims> Mike| the ip of this comp is 192.168.0.3
[03:23] <Jucato> ooh router....
[03:23] <Kutan> So, anyone have a solution?
[03:24] <charims> Gamecat: Tried that, did the same thing as Ifdown followed by Ifup
[03:24] <Larynx> ffs
[03:24] <Mike|> well, that's not it
[03:24] <GameCat> charims: what is in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0?
[03:24] <Jucato> Kutan: what did you do before this started happening?
[03:24] <Larynx> is module-assistant something i have to dl?
[03:25] <Kutan> I installed the new NVIDIA drivers for my video card
[03:25] <Jucato> oh...
[03:25] <Jucato> Kutan: can you please check if you have linux-restricted-modules-* installed and if it's the same version as the linux-image-* version you are using?
[03:26] <Kutan> How can I find that out? =\
[03:26] <jon_> hello
[03:26] <charims> GameCat  for eth0 it says "auto eth0" next line "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[03:26] <jon_> im wondering what a really good bittorrent client would be
[03:26] <dr_willis> ktorrent is ok. or i use wine and utorrent.exe :)
[03:26] <GameCat> charims: hang on, I'll upload one...
[03:27] <Larynx> any one?
[03:27] <Jucato> KTorrent works for me.
[03:27] <Kutan> Just if you don't know, I'm using the live DVD right now so I'd have to reboot to check.
[03:27] <Jucato> Kutan: hold on...
[03:28] <Kutan> k
[03:28] <jon_> i upgraded to dapper and im not sure if its gnome or KDE?
[03:28] <GameCat> charims: http://wastedtimes.net/stuff/eth0.txt
[03:28] <Jucato> Kutan: do you know your way around the command line?
[03:28] <Kutan> Not really...
[03:28] <Jucato> oh..
[03:28] <Kutan> A little bit
[03:28] <GameCat> charims: adjust IPs to suit, then restart networking
[03:28] <Jucato> Kutan: well, I have to give you some instructions first before you reboot
[03:28] <Kutan> Alright
[03:28] <GameCat> charims: gateway is the router IP
[03:28] <charims> Gamecat: kk brb, time 2 eat
[03:29] <Jucato> Kutan: when you reach the part where everything seems "stuck" at the bootsplash (Kubuntu logo on plain black background), press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to log into a command line session
[03:30] <Kutan> It doesn't even get there
[03:30] <Kutan> Oh wait
[03:30] <Kutan> you mean where it tells me what it's loading and stuff?
[03:30] <Jucato> Kutan: yes
[03:30] <Kutan> Okay
[03:31] <Jucato> ok, once you log into a command line, type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit your sources.list
[03:32] <Jucato> Kutan: then look for the line with "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main" and add "restricted" after main
[03:33] <Jucato> Kutan: so that it would be "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted"
[03:33] <charims> gamecat: scarfed down my food, im bak
[03:33] <Kutan> okay
[03:33] <Jucato> Kutan: after that, press Ctrl+O and Enter to overwrite/save, then Ctrl+X to exit nano
[03:33] <Kutan> then sudo reboot
[03:33] <Kutan> ?
[03:33] <Jucato> Kutan: not yet :-D
[03:33] <Kutan> oh
[03:34] <Jucato> Kutan: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[03:34] <Jucato> hopefully linux-restricted-modules will be upgraded, if you have it installed.
[03:34] <Kutan> k
[03:35] <Jucato> if nothing seems to be upgraded, you can try to manually install it using "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[03:36] <Kutan> alright I'm tryin to write this all down neatly cause I PHAIL at neat writing
[03:36] <jott_> are there plans for putting vtk 5 in the repositories (either edgy or dapper) ? (its already in debian unstable)
[03:37] <Jucato> Kutan: hehehe so do I. just make sure you understand what you right. that's the most important thing right now :-D
[03:37] <charims> gamecat: nothing :(
[03:37] <Mike|> without a doubt, this is the STUPIDEST thing i've ever heard. Windows Vista is going to block any attempt to change or disable the sound it plays when you log into it
[03:38] <charims> hehe
[03:38] <Mike|> Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
[03:38] <Jucato> lol
[03:38] <Jucato> I'm sure there will be some "hack" around that...
[03:38] <Mike|> now see, this RIGHT HERE is why I only load windows when I play video games
[03:38] <jott_> its like those mobile phone that supposed to make a sound when taking a picture to warn everybody in the vicinity ;)
[03:39] <GameCat> charims: do you have a firewall running?
[03:39] <charims> ummm, no, not a hardware one, and none that i know of on the livecd
[03:40] <DaSkreech> Mike|: On what basis?
[03:40] <Mike|> eh?
[03:40] <Kutan> Alright brb gonna try that jucato, thanks for the help. :D
[03:40] <Jucato> Kutan: good luck!!
[03:40] <Kutan> thanks
[03:41] <charims> Gamecat :ummm, no, not a hardware one, and none that i know of on the livecd
[03:41] <Mike|> about windows? I mean its habit of disallowing you to do things when it makes absolutely no sense. ie., lack of configurability
[03:41] <GameCat> charims: does ifconfig eth0 show the IP etc you put in the interfaces file?
[03:42] <Jucato> ... or at least without paying for some 3rd party software, like WIndowsBlinds...
[03:42] <Mike|> i know those guys actually. they make good stuff
[03:42] <DBO> Mike|, no no, it doesnt make sense for YOU...  for a corporation however...  you see they dont pander to the individual (and frankly, I dont see why they would) but linux does.  Its just a matter of goals...
[03:42] <Mike|> stardock
[03:42] <dustin> soo im a new user....YAY
[03:42] <charims> Gamecat: yes
[03:42] <__mikem> they make good stuff? if by good you mean, prone to crashing all the time, then yes they have the best products on the market
[03:42] <GameCat> charims: can you ping the router?
[03:43] <charims> gamecat what do you mean?
[03:43] <Jucato> __mikem: I think he was referring to the guys who make WindowsBlinds
[03:43] <__mikem> I know, I was refering to them also
[03:43] <GameCat> charims: "ping 192.168.0.1" or whatever the router IP is
[03:44] <GameCat> charims: what happens?
[03:44] <Jucato> ehehe
[03:44] <Jucato> I never knew WindowsBlinds crashed a lot
[03:46] <dr_willis> Jucato,  i was not impressed by windowblinds much. :P
[03:46] <dr_willis> now that game they sold.. glacatic civilizations - was cool!@
[03:46] <charims> Gamecat: it sas yhay from 192.168.0.5 icmp_seq=#  destination host unreachable
[03:46] <Mike|> i haven't used windowblinds myself. don't knwo fi it crashes or not
[03:46] <Mike|> i play galactic civ II all the time though
[03:46] <Mike|> chat with the developers in their chat room
[03:47] <raptros-v76> ok
[03:47] <dr_willis> was going to get Gal Civ II - then realized how rarely i played the first
[03:47] <Mike|> gal civ ii is awesome
[03:47] <Mike|> addictive as hell
[03:48] <Mike|> one of those where you've been playing a while, look up and notice you have to get up for work in 5 minutes
[03:48] <Jucato> dr_willis: I have only used the trial version. But I don't know if there are free alternatives to theme Windows...
[03:48] <Mike|> anyway, no matter who MS is catering to, disabling the ability to customize something as stupid as the login sound is just DUMB
[03:49] <jott_> Jucato: patch uxtheme.dll or what it was ;)
[03:49] <Jucato> oh...
[03:49] <charims> if i could get ndiswrapper to log me in, then this would work... but im in livecd anyways, and im about to jsut reinstall kubuntu, then fix my sound problem...
[03:49] <Jucato> yeah I think I did that to get clearlooks on XP
[03:49] <Mike|> Uncle Bill knows better, so we're not going to let you do that. Here, have a free adware program :D
[03:49] <GameCat> charims: the cable is plugged in, isn't it :)
[03:50] <jott_> hehe luna makes me wanna puke all the time.. :p
[03:50] <dr_willis> Jucato,  im the kind of guy that sets the thing to classic mode to get more speed! :P
[03:50] <Mike|> me too
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> Mike|: Can't you do that? I know you could in 2000
[03:50] <charims> Gamecat: definitely, and there is a light from the port
[03:50] <Jucato> Mike|:  c'mon, they've disabled the user's ability to even think! Why would you be surprised that they disable customizations? :-D
[03:50] <Mike|> heh
[03:50] <charims> so, with ethernet, im screwed, won't connect, with my usb stick, im screwed. becuase ndiswrapper recognizes the hardware, but the wireless assistant doesnt
[03:51] <charims> it worked like a charm on the installed system...
[03:51] <GameCat> charims: very odd
[03:51] <Mike|> I guarantee you the first thing people are going to do is try to delete that sound, just because it tells them they can't disable it
[03:51] <Mike|> the .wav
[03:51] <charims> hee hee
[03:52] <Mike|> i would
[03:52] <Mike|> when i tell my computer to do something, i expect it to do it
[03:52] <jott_> hehe then hits the windows file protection and restores it at once ;)
[03:52] <charims> crimsun: are you there, i'm jsut about to reinstall kubuntu
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Damn, you're right. Guess you'd have to change the C:\Windows\media\Windows Logoff Sound.wav :|
[03:53] <dr_willis> jott_,  ive even seen it restore virus infected files! :P
[03:53] <Jucato> but you'll be swamped by dialog boxes asking if you really want to delete/change that file...
[03:53] <Jucato> Kutan: how did  it go?
[03:53] <Mike|> this is why i'm ranting about it, FYI: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/31/2347201
[03:53] <Kutan> It was already fully updated -_-
[03:53] <Jucato> still have the same problem?
[03:53] <Kutan> and it already had the security extension
[03:54] <Kutan> Yeah, nothing changed at all. o_o
[03:54] <Jucato> Kutan: not security, "restricted"
[03:54] <GameCat> I'm off, night all
[03:54] <Kutan> yeah that's what I meant
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Mike|: Where in the world did MS get that idea? :o
[03:54] <Jucato> hm....
[03:54] <Jucato> Kutan: btw, how did you install the NVIDIA driver?
[03:54] <Mike|> from the same person who thought up Clippy I'd imagine
[03:54] <Jucato> Kutan: did you check if linux-restricted-modules and linux-image matched?
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Guess so.
[03:55] <Kutan> Yeah
[03:55] <Jucato> ok... I'm stumped...
[03:55] <Mike|> that would be my fault possibly. he was trying to install it and I told him how to get gcc installed
[03:55] <Jucato> How did you install the drivers anyway?
[03:55] <Kutan> I installed it through the console "sudo sh (name of script)"
[03:56] <Jucato> Kutan: aaah
[03:56] <Jucato> hm....
[03:56] <Jucato> hold on, did you download the latest NVIDIA driver from their site?
[03:56] <Kutan> Yeah
[03:56] <Jucato> err... I think that driver doesn't work with Dapper
[03:57] <Kutan> ._.;
[03:57] <Mike|> really??
[03:57] <Jucato> Mike|: was that for me?
[03:57] <Mike|> i was planning to install kubuntu on my new box when it gets here next week =(
[03:57] <Mike|> yes
[03:58] <Jucato> the new driver that NVIDIA released last week (was it last week) is for Xorg 7.1
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Mike|: http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=195520&cid=16020964 <--- That's just brutal to the Gnome guys.
[03:58] <Mike|> and it's got a bleeding edge vid card, so I'll definitely need the neweest
[03:58] <Jucato> Dapper only uses 7.0
[03:58] <Jucato> Kutan: did you download the 1.0-8774 driver?
[03:58] <Zamboulie> !xgl
[03:58] <Kutan> uhhh
[03:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:58] <Mike|> CheeseBurgerMan, i think he's possible referring to that "spatial navigation" debate a couple years ago
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh.
[03:59] <Kutan> >_<
[03:59] <Jucato> rawr.. spatial navigation......
[03:59] <Mike|> that kind of ticked me off too
[03:59] <Kutan> I'm confused
[03:59] <charims> arnt we all
[03:59] <Mike|> find, do it by default, but at least put an option in there to turn it off without me reaching for the conf file
[03:59] <Mike|> fine*
[03:59] <Jucato> Kutan: I would suggest you just download the NVIDIA driver from the repositories, the "nvidia-glx" package
[04:00] <Jucato> Kutan: in the command line (Ctrl+Alt+F1 again), type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" then after it downloaded and installed, "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[04:00] <Kr4t05> !info screenkast
[04:00] <ubotu> Package screenkast does not exist in any distro I know
[04:00] <Kutan> alright..
[04:00] <Mike|> !ati
[04:00] <Jucato> Mike|:  spatial navigation in GNOME?
[04:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:00] <Kutan> hold on, writing it down
[04:01] <Mike|> Jucato, they changed nautilus so that every time you clicked a folder to go deeper into the file system, it popped open a new window
[04:01] <Mike|> they called it "spatial navigation", while everyone else just called it annoying
[04:02] <Jucato> Mike|: yes, spatial navigation. but you don't have to edit the conf files to deactivate that...
[04:02] <Mike|> then someone wrote an article BLAMING USERS because the users didn't like it
[04:02] <crimsun> charims: if it's easier, just reinstall it.
[04:02] <Mike|> not now, no. back when they first did it you did
[04:02] <crimsun> charims: I'm very busy atm, sorry.
[04:02] <Mike|> doesn' tmatter now. I actually like how it does it now, with the row of tabs
[04:03] <Jucato> yikes... I'm glad I didn't use it back then...
[04:03] <Kutan> alright brb gonna try that
[04:03] <Jucato> Kutan: good luck again!
[04:03] <flaccid> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212025 <- have they removed the wacom tablet entries in xorg for next release?
[04:03] <Mike|> i'm just gonna have all sorts of problems getting any kind of linux running on my new box
[04:04] <Mike|> i splurged and bought the most powerful hardware I could get. i know that video card's gonna give me trouble
[04:04] <jott_> those wacom entries are broken anyway ... had to change them to make my wacom tablet work correct ;p
[04:04] <Jucato> hehehe
[04:04] <Mike|> --> NVIDIA Geforce 7950 GX2 1GB 16X PCI Express
[04:05] <jott_> Mike|: thats the right card to use the nv driver ;P
[04:06] <Mike|> ?
[04:06] <jott_> (non accelerated ;) just kidding
[04:06] <Mike|> as far as i've been able to tell, that's the fastest video card in existence (today)
[04:06] <Mike|> sure is priced like it is
[04:06] <jott_> its probably sweet
[04:07] <faked_> Hey, I'm trying to install Frostwire from a tarball and I extracted it but there's no configure file so I can't run "$ ./configure".... wtf do I do now?
[04:07] <Mike|> there's not a .deb package?
[04:07] <charims> crimsun: just got your message, i decided to reinstall, thats understandable, reinstalling now, i will have more hd space this time
[04:07] <Mike|> http://frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://mirror1.peercommons.net/frostwire/4.10.9/FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[04:08] <faked_> I don't know the first thing about using those debian packages >_>
[04:08] <archangel_> hey whats the command to configure x?
[04:08] <faked_> I DL them but I unno what to do with them
[04:08] <Jucato> !frostwire
[04:08] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:09] <faked_> I know that
[04:09] <jott_> Mike|: is the 7950gx2 even supported by 8774?
[04:09] <faked_> it's just that, if using the d
[04:09] <faked_> debian package will work, I'd like to know how to use it >_>
[04:09] <Mike|> 8774? what is that?
[04:09] <Jucato> faked_: right-click on the .deb, select Kubuntu Package Menu > Install Package
[04:10] <ramon> anyone knows how to fix this :(
[04:10] <ramon> ------- sound initialization -------
[04:10] <ramon> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[04:10] <ramon> Could not open /dev/dsp
[04:10] <jott_> Mike|: the latest nvidia linux driver version
[04:10] <Jucato> Mike|: that's the latest NVIDIA driver released by NVIDIA...
[04:10] <Mike|> oh
[04:10] <Mike|> i have no idea
[04:10] <Mike|> if i can't get linux installed, I'll just suffer with windows until it linux catches up to it
[04:11] <flaccid> i have no idea why they would put wacom entries in there..
[04:11] <Mike|> but this PC is starting to show its age and I want something that wont be obsolete in a year
[04:11] <Jucato> flaccid: trying to support as many hardware combos there are
[04:11] <faked_> wow that's really simple, thanks >_>
[04:11] <flaccid> Jucato: but why load it if your computer doesn't have it
[04:12] <Jucato> flaccid: did you notice that Kubuntu also installs wireless, bluetooth, etc. even if you don't have it?
[04:12] <charims> Im reinstalling kubuntu, and i told it to resize the partition, it got to 100%, and now its jsut sitting there... uh-oh
[04:12] <flaccid> Jucato: yes but thats packages, we are talking about xorg.conf
[04:12] <Ashex> !floppy
[04:12] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[04:13] <Jucato> flaccid: coz that's the default? I don't know why recnfiguring xserver-xorg doesn't remove it though
[04:13] <kutan> Well it installed well, but it's hanging up at the boot screen and not the blank screen anymore
[04:14] <Jucato>  @_@
[04:14] <flaccid> Jucato: yeah. it shouldn't be default. why load a driver for hardware that doesn't exist
[04:14] <flaccid> :)
[04:14] <Jucato> because the default settings need to support as many hardware combos possible... :-D
[04:15] <Jucato> unless you want xserver-xorg to be reconfigured everytime you try to install/update/etc?
[04:15] <flaccid> Jucato: so is a default xorg.conf used for every install ie. it doesn't generate one on install from xserver-xorg ?
[04:15] <flaccid> we all use the same default xorg.conf ?
[04:16] <Jucato> I think so. unless you reconfigure xserver-xorg in the Desktop CD before you install
[04:16] <flaccid> hmm thats not good
[04:16] <Jucato> the Desktop CD installer merely copies the settings on the CD
[04:16] <charims> great, it crashed :(
[04:16] <Jucato> that's why it's fast
[04:17] <kutan> sooo
[04:17] <kutan> This all friggin started because I wanted games to run faster. -_-
[04:17] <Jucato> kutan: I'm stumped, really...
[04:18] <flaccid> Jucato: dexconf generates it, but when is the question?
[04:18] <Jucato> kutan: those instructions usually work
[04:18] <Jucato> flaccid: what question?
[04:18] <kutan> I'm tempted to just format and reinstall kubuntu -_-
[04:18] <flaccid> it can't be a default xorg.conf because it has ati and not nvidia in there and settings specific to my hardware
[04:19] <charims> i just tried that, tried to resize my partition, and welah, it froze while resizing, then i had to terminate :(
[04:19] <samyfom> y'a un francophone ici?
[04:19] <flaccid> question is when dexconf generates it
[04:19] <flaccid> so these wacom entries are bogus
[04:19] <Jucato> flaccid: it tries to detect the video card when you run the Desktop CD
[04:19] <flaccid> Jucato: then wouldn't it do the other hardware as well
[04:20] <Jucato> probably...
[04:20] <Jucato>  @_@
[04:20] <Jucato> now I'm confused too. lol
[04:21] <samyfom> Hello Hello!!!
[04:21] <samyfom> Who like Vice City here?
[04:21] <charims> well, good news, windows still starts up, but its running a startup scandisk, is that good or bad?
[04:21] <Mike|> I still play it sometimes
[04:21] <flaccid> it looks like does the config program and then adds wacom tablet entries. i would call this a bug or bad algorithm
[04:22] <Mike|> charims, as long as it does that only once, don't worry about it. if it does it every time.....
[04:23] <skavenge> it'll do it by default on a ntfs partition resize, but like Mike| said, it shouldnt do it after
[04:23] <crimsun> charims: that's normal if you shrink your NTFS partition size.
[04:23] <charims> mike| ok, well, i don't think it will run it again, as long as the drive is fixed, but the drive wasn't resized, it got mad, froze, and i had to terminate it :(
[04:24] <Mike|> there you go. Windows usually does a scandisk if it doesn't like how you turned it off
[04:25] <charims> Mike| no, the partitioner in kubuntu froze :(
[04:26] <Mike|> :/
[04:26] <Mike|> oh....
[04:26] <charims> while resizing :( but everything seems okay, time to boot live cd
[04:29] <samyfom> ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
[04:29] <samyfom> comment rendre Konversation en francais??!!
[04:29] <samyfom> how make Konversation in french???
[04:29] <Jucato> !fr
[04:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:30] <Hawkwind> samyfom: Install the correct language packs for beginners
[04:30] <samyfom> okay man!!
[04:30] <samyfom> thanks beaucoup
[04:31] <Hawkwind> samyfom: Please keep the conversation here in the channel so others can help and learn
[04:31] <Hawkwind> samyfom: sudo apt-get install <package>
[04:31] <Jucato> whoa!
[04:31] <pestilence> so i have a 6.06 cd in my cdrom.  and i ran apt-cdrom add, and ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.  but it only wanted to upgrade like 4 packages.  what gives?
[04:31] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind!
[04:32] <samyfom> ahh!! whats the name of package?
[04:32] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Evening(my time) :)
[04:32] <Jucato> hehe
[04:32] <Hawkwind> samyfom: Whatever package you want to install
[04:32] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Good evening(my time) to ya :)
[04:32] <Jucato> Hobbsee!! god morning! (noon your time)
[04:32] <samyfom> i want make Konversation in french
[04:32] <samyfom> because i'm not good in english
[04:33] <Hawkwind> samyfom: I don't know.  Probably a language setting in kcontrol or something
[04:33] <samyfom> ok thanks
[04:33] <Jucato> samyfom: you could try asking the guys in the !fr channel
[04:33] <samyfom> ouf!
[04:33] <Hobbsee> hey Hawkwind, Jucato
[04:33] <charims> trying to resize partition again
[04:33] <samyfom> it doesn't work
[04:35] <Jucato> Hobbsee: could you explain the init-crack stuff again?
[04:35] <Jucato> or should I ask that over at -devel?
[04:35] <samyfom> i go to french kubuntu channel!!
[04:35] <samyfom> good night!
[04:36] <Jucato> samyfom: good luck and good night
[04:37] <flaccid> anybody have knetstats going on kubuntu ?
[04:37] <ascetik> hey are any of you running ubuntu on a laptop... because i am have some strange problems that is specific to laptops
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Jucato: see planet.ubuntu.com - scott's post
[04:37] <Jucato> Hobbsee: ok thankies!
[04:38] <Jucato> btw, Kopete still not in backports, and au.archive.ubuntu.com totally has no backports...
[04:38] <charims> wow, the partitioner is taking forever to even say it is resizing :(
[04:39] <Jucato> charims: did you remember to unmount the partition first before trying to resize it?
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ah, interesting.
[04:39] <charims> well, i don' think it was mounted, i probably should have checked :(
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i dotn think the release people care over these few days :P
[04:40] <Jucato> ehehe... I understand... to busy with Knot...
[04:40] <Hobbsee> Jucato: and there the ones who will need to figure out what's happened to soyuz, and fix it again
[04:40] <Jucato> ah yes.. soyuz...
[04:41] <kutan> Jucato
[04:41] <charims> Jucato: should i unmount remote share?
[04:42] <Jucato> charims: only the partition you are trying to modify
[04:42] <kryptor> hi all
[04:42] <charims> jucato: kk, it was unmounted
[04:42] <kutan> Do you think there's any possible solution to my problem? If not I'm about to reinstall/reformat
[04:43] <kryptor> i have searched the whole kubuntu site for install instructions, cannot find
[04:45] <lcdguy> hello all
[04:45] <Jucato> kutan: sorry, I'm out of ideas
[04:45] <Jucato> kryptor: maybe if you told us what you were trying to install??
[04:46] <kryptor> kubuntu
[04:46] <kryptor> this is the chan isn't it?
[04:46] <Jucato> yes. so you're trying to install Kubuntu?
[04:46] <lcdguy> i was wondering if anyone here could help me with a weird issue i am having with my videocard
[04:46] <kryptor> yes, have burnt 4 disks already
[04:46] <kryptor> none work
[04:47] <kryptor> and i would like to read up on the install process so i answer questions right
[04:47] <Jucato> and by "none work" what do you mean? btw, which installer did you download? Desktop CD or Alternate Install CD?
[04:47] <kryptor> all 3
[04:47] <kryptor> alternat, desktop and live
[04:47] <kutan> Alright I'll be back later, gonna format
[04:47] <Jucato> Desktop CD and Live CD are the same
[04:48] <kryptor> ok
[04:48] <kutan> Thanks for the help anyway jucato :P
[04:48] <Jucato> kutan: ok.. sorry I couldn't help solve it...
[04:48] <kryptor> same luck with ubuntu
[04:48] <kutan> speaking of ubuntu
[04:48] <Jucato> kryptor: what happens when you try to run the Desktop CD?
[04:48] <kutan> What's the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[04:49] <lcdguy> i think it's just the main desktop it uses gnome vs kde
[04:49] <Agios> ubuntu is gnome based, kubuntu is kde based
[04:49] <Jucato> Ubuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE.
[04:49] <Kr4t05> kutan: Kubuntu == KDE; Ubuntu == GNOME
[04:49] <kryptor> it gets to opening and then all the lights on the monitor config flash
[04:49] <Jucato> but underneat, they're practically the same
[04:49] <kutan> which is better for a noob?
[04:50] <archangel_> what is the command to configure your display?
[04:50] <lcdguy> i personally prefer kubuntu, but they are equally challaneging
[04:50] <Jucato> it really depends on the "taste" of the person, andhis wants/needs
[04:51] <kutan> uhmmm... Gaming?
[04:51] <Jucato> archangel_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:51] <Jucato> kutan: neither or both
[04:51] <archangel_> thanks again Jucato
[04:51] <kutan> lol
[04:51] <Jucato> it doesn't matter as most games are desktop environment agnostic
[04:51] <kutan> Wow
[04:52] <kutan> I have no idea what that just meant
[04:52] <Jucato> lol
[04:52] <kutan> but time to format
[04:52] <kutan> See yas
[04:52] <Jucato> it means that most games
[04:52] <kutan> ?
[04:52] <lcdguy> bassicaly it doesn't matter if you run gnome or kde
[04:52] <Jucato> don't choose whether they will run on GNOME or KDE
[04:52] <kutan> oh
[04:52] <Jucato> in fact, you can install GNOME programs on KDE and vice versa
[04:52] <kutan> ...oh
[04:52] <lcdguy> yup
[04:52] <kutan> Alright
[04:53] <kutan> OKAY LESS INTERRUPTING MORE FORMATTING
[04:53] <kutan> :P
[04:53] <lcdguy> anyone here know anything about setting up dual head setups on ati graphics cards ?
[04:54] <leandro> e
[04:55] <reddwolf78> hello i have a question  i have a bluetooh compatable palmpilot and wounder is there a way to set linux up to link up with it useing the blue tooth
[04:55] <lcdguy> sorry i don't know anything about bluetooth other than that my cell phone has it
[04:56] <reddwolf78> oh ok
[04:56] <reddwolf78> how about anyone else
[04:56] <reddwolf78> or at leat might be able to point me in the right direction
[04:56] <lcdguy> whats the model of palm pilot
[04:57] <reddwolf78> its a tungsten e2 buy palmone
[04:57] <jott_> reddwolf78: have you tried kpilot?
[04:58] <jott_> (never used it as i have no palm)
[04:58] <jott_> !info kpilot
[04:58] <obf213> is wine worth it
[04:58] <ubotu> kpilot: KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1855 kB, installed size 4308 kB
[04:58] <obf213> if i want to run like media applications or is it not worth it
[04:58] <reddwolf78> i was able to set kpilot up with the hotsynk feture
[04:58] <jott_> obf213: depends on the particular app ;)
[04:59] <obf213> ok its a media player to watch tv on the computer
[04:59] <reddwolf78> but i was woundering about the bluetooth compatablity of both linux and my palm
[04:59] <obf213> jott my question is it safe
[04:59] <obf213> it wont make me more vulnerable or anything right?
[04:59] <jott_> obf213: why not use one of the many media palyers for linux?
[04:59] <lcdguy> like vlc :D
[04:59] <obf213> i have to download gthere media player jot. its called TVU networks
[05:00] <Agios> I use tvtime here
[05:00] <jott_> reddwolf78: don't know .. bluetooth obex works fine here (with my mobile)
[05:01] <reddwolf78> is there a site that might give me a list that i can look at with compatable  bluetooth device
[05:01] <lcdguy> i have a question in regards to my sound card
[05:01] <reddwolf78> #lad
[05:02] <rannie> exit
[05:02] <reddwolf78> the link i listed is good with sound items
[05:02] <lcdguy> everytime i reboot/restart x it changes to the default settings on the switches section on the mixer. the problem is i need the optical audio output enabled to make the sound work.
[05:03] <reddwolf78> !bluetooth
[05:03] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:04] <archangel_> dude my pc's display is so messed up
[05:05] <driz> hey guys I need help finding a manual for this motherboard... P4G533-LA
[05:05] <archangel_> and no one knows crap on how to fix it
[05:06] <Jucato> [ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:06] <der_steppenwolf> hi
[05:06] <Agios> driz: http://www.elhvb.com/mboards/OEM/HP/
[05:06] <der_steppenwolf> could someone help with a problem about dvd devices?
[05:07] <archangel_> Jucato: how experienced in linux are you?
[05:08] <Agios> LOL
[05:08] <Agios> archangel_: very
[05:08] <Jucato> me? not so much
[05:08] <jott_> Jucato: hey it could happen that questions are asked only once when everybody would seek answers by digging the internet ;p scnr
[05:08] <kubuntu-Roberto> Hello everyone. i'm new to kubuntu and deb files. I've downloaded webmin 1.290 deb file, and I've installed it. Problem is I can't log in using either root or my user name. any suggestions
[05:08] <Agios> archangel_: xvidtune and edit xorg.conf
[05:09] <Agios> it's the hard way but it will work
[05:09] <Zamboulie> whats the command to update the kernel?
[05:09] <archangel_> Agios: dude is there a way (and if so, would you be willing) for you to look at my pc over the net
[05:10] <archangel_> Agios: like the desktop sharing program
[05:10] <Agios> sure, msg me the ssh login
[05:11] <archangel_> I'm hoping I can trust you
[05:11] <lcdguy> lol
[05:11] <Agios> you never know
[05:11] <archangel_> lol, I guess I'm screwed anyway
[05:11] <Agios> encrypt your data
[05:11] <der_steppenwolf> k3b does not recognize my dvd device
[05:11] <Zamboulie> whats the command to update the kernel
[05:11] <der_steppenwolf> only my cd writer device
[05:12] <obf213> is there a lot of stuff that wine doesnt opne
[05:12] <archangel_> how?
[05:12] <der_steppenwolf> but cdrecord the other way around, i don't understand
[05:12] <obf213> like the unistaller.exe did
[05:12] <Agios> Zamboulie: apt-get install <kernel of your choice>
[05:12] <eljefedelito> hello kubuntu-Roberto; no, sorry... check the developer's web site FAQ
[05:12] <Zamboulie> whats the newest one
[05:12] <obf213> ddnt open for the file i had, then the next one it wont open the .exe file at all
[05:12] <obf213> !wine
[05:12] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:13] <digivore> can i save a session in ubuntu and shut down the computer, but next time i logon, restart the last saved session with open applications and stuff...?  is that possible?
[05:13] <kubuntu-Roberto> I'll check the faq
[05:13] <Zamboulie> and what would the command for updating ATI drivers be?
[05:13] <Agios> no idea, I use nvidia
[05:13] <Agios> !ati
[05:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <obf213> divigore kubuntu does that by default
[05:14] <Agios> kde does, yes. Don't know what gnome does though
[05:14] <archangel_> how do we hook up Agios
[05:15] <archangel_> I have the pw
[05:15] <Jucato> digivore: Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[05:15] <josef> hai is there anybody that want me to to install mp3
[05:16] <kubuntu-Roberto> I check webmin's faq, no such luck, nothing on kubunt, ubuntu or debian. They simply say how to install, and then simply logon as root, but it doesn't work
[05:16] <alexicon> !amarok
[05:16] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[05:16] <Jucato> hi josef! everyting working fine?
[05:17] <josef> hai jucato its work fine I have already installed the games and its fun
[05:17] <Jucato> :-D
[05:17] <josef> only there no mp3 i read it already but i am still confused
[05:17] <digivore> Jucato: Kubuntu
[05:18] <Jucato> digivore: go to System Settings > KDE Componenets > Session Manager
[05:18] <digivore> obf213:  kubuntu does it by itself?  actually i havan't tried it yet.. have always closed all the apps before i shut down..
[05:18] <digivore> How do i make transparent windows in kubuntu?
[05:18] <lcdguy> xgl is one way i think
[05:18] <obf213> divigore it automatically restores sessions
[05:21] <digivore> i'm new, can someone explain something for me?
[05:21] <digivore>  KDE is to ubuntu     like ____  is to windows?
[05:21] <obf213> i need major help now
[05:21] <obf213> i had a program i installed with wine.
[05:22] <Jucato> KDE is to ubuntu as Windows is to Windows....
[05:22] <obf213> the uninstall was on the desktop i used the wine command to unistall
[05:22] <lcdguy> digivore i guess the closest analogy would be areo is to windows vista
[05:22] <obf213> all of a sudden all my deskto icons dissappeard
[05:22] <obf213> the directory for my desktio dissappeareed
[05:23] <Jucato> lcdguy: isn't aero just a type type of rendering engine?
[05:23] <obf213> nvm i got my desktop back, but lost all the ifles i had on it
[05:23] <digivore> lcdguy: don't know vista,     but 'desktop managers?' like kde are interchangable?
[05:24] <Jucato> digivore: Windows uses it's own and only it's own Desktop Environment and WIndow Manager
[05:24] <digivore> could i replace KDE with something else?
[05:24] <Jucato> digivore: yes. with GNOME, Xfce, fluxbox, etc
[05:24] <lcdguy> well true, but in windows the window manager is integraded into the system while kde/gnome is a seperate promgram running on linux/unix
[05:25] <digivore> Jucato:  and i would have to uninstall KDE, and then say install another?
[05:25] <Jucato> lcdguy: yes, that's why I said "Windows is to Windows"... there's no concrete distinction in Windows
[05:25] <Jucato> digivore: or you could have them both installed
[05:25] <lcdguy> true
[05:25] <digivore> Would i use both at the same time?  i'm thinking Enlightenment in particular
[05:25] <Jucato> digivore: at the same time, for different users
[05:26] <Jucato> but not for the same user. at the same time
[05:27] <digivore> Jucato:  thanks
[05:28] <actinic> Jucato, I'd like other opinions from the remaining 236 presently on the forum :)
[05:28] <actinic> j/k
[05:28] <Jucato> .......
[05:29] <Jucato> if you could get them all to speak, then why not?
[05:29] <actinic> lol, a silent bunch they are
[05:30] <Jucato> I estimate that 200 of the nicks in here have not spoken a word for the past weeks that I have been here
[05:30] <word> true
[05:30] <actinic> i concur, in fact I don't believe they exist
[05:30] <actinic> if I were to say 'Hey aztun, you're a JERK'
[05:31] <Jucato> the do exist. but they are just silent. very silent...
[05:31] <word> they don't exist
[05:31] <actinic> u think he'll reply?
[05:31] <actinic> :)
[05:31] <lcdguy> lol
[05:31] <Jucato> lol! word sorry... I forgot you were there
[05:31] <word> ;p
[05:32] <actinic> i think the kubuntu dev's stack these forums with fictitious people
[05:32] <lcdguy> does anyone here know anything about configuring dual head ?
[05:32] <actinic> to convey a sense of popularity
[05:32] <word> haha
[05:32] <Jucato> lol
[05:32] <actinic> :)
[05:32] <word> Ok..so i have a problem where when i leave my computer on for about 2 days...things start getting funky memory fills up etc. lots of seek errors (87% sure not an hd error) then when i restart Xgl doesn't start up..I got the output from dmesg after having it on for a couple days - http://pastebin.ca/156686 and after it fails to start up - http://pastebin.ca/156688 I just now realized on this occurance of the problem..that by doing /etc/init.d/kdm
[05:32] <word> hink this is kdm's fault or something but this never happened with X...any ideas?
[05:32] <word> figure if i keep pasting that eventually i'll get an answer ;p
[05:32] <Jucato> hahaha
[05:33] <actinic> word, your HDD is failing
[05:33] <word> you sure?
[05:33] <actinic> uh ... no :)
[05:33] <actinic> but i thought i should answer
[05:33] <word> heh
[05:34] <Kragnerac> Hello, I want to know (this is an Ubuntu-Xubuntu/Kubuntu question), when I installed gtk2-engines-gtk-qt on breezy, and uninstalled it, the theme and font was messed up, and I could only change them in KDE's KControl. Is this but fixed in Dapper?
[05:34] <actinic> sounds kind of like a memory leak
[05:34] <word> i have a brand new sata drive...and a 1-2 year old ide 80 gig maxtor drive..
[05:35] <word> hmm actinic probably...ever used ivtv? it seems to crash on me for some reason or another..and i wonder if when it crashes it doesn't actually shut itself down entirely..and continues to muck things up..
[05:35] <actinic> word, no i haven't
[05:36] <actinic> but if certain processes start taking up more cpu resources ...
[05:36] <Jucato> ooh.. NeoChaosX.... from ubuntuforums?
[05:36] <actinic> you can pretty well be sure you've gotta leak
[05:36] <actinic> the big ? is which one/ones
[05:36] <word> i'm partial to believing it's a combination of ivtv and mythbackend..
[05:37] <actinic> any issues discovered by googling?
[05:37] <Kragnerac> Hello, when I try to install Compiz-KDE, I get the following error message: http://tinyurl.com/hfsjs
[05:37] <NeoChaosX> Jucato: yes, I'm a Ubuntu forums regular
[05:38] <word> the ivtv one was discovered to be an as yet unsolved problem (or solution undocumented)...the hd error stuff...mixed results...
[05:38] <Jucato> ehehe! nice to see you here. I'm Fenyx in the forums..
[05:38] <NeoChaosX> oh, hey dude!
[05:38] <NeoChaosX> didn't recognize ya, obviously
[05:38] <actinic> Kragnerac, is that program available thru apt or synaptic?
[05:39] <usuario> apt-get install traceroute
[05:39] <Jucato> yeah.. I wish I could change my name in the forums....
[05:39] <actinic> word: that's interesting, looks like there might be a few issues then
[05:39] <actinic> !windows
[05:39] <word> yah :(
[05:39] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:39] <NeoChaosX> couldn't you just request a name change?
[05:39] <word> loolll
[05:39] <InuDuelist> Hello, all.
[05:39] <actinic> :)
[05:40] <InuDuelist> Hey, Jucato's here again.
[05:40] <usuario> is there any expert around?
[05:40] <Kragnerac> actinic: Both apt and Synaptic
[05:40] <Jucato> InuDuelist: ehehe! I've been here for the past 3 hours..
[05:40] <NeoChaosX> jucato: at a previous vB board I was at, the admins had the ability to change a user's name
[05:40] <actinic> Kragnerac, have your apt-get updated?
[05:41] <Jucato> NeoChaosX: yeah, but I doubt if the admins would honor that request... they might get swamped with the same request if word gets out
[05:41] <NeoChaosX> ah, understandable
[05:41] <word> i'm not going anywhere..
[05:41] <Jucato> lol
[05:41] <Kragnerac> actinic: Yes, it is updated.
[05:41] <InuDuelist> Jucato, I haven't.
[05:41] <InuDuelist> I was gone, actually.
[05:42] <InuDuelist> I was over at a friend's house watching the conclusion to Who Wants to be a Superhero?
[05:43] <usuario> my problem is like that.. i can open adept without opening an konsole window .. I do have do do anything on the konsole window ... just if i don open it, the kdeusu window can appear and i can open the adept. after a while, it just give up to show. no message is shown. whaththehellisthat?
[05:43] <Zamboulie> !ati
[05:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <kutan> Anyone have or know of any scripts that are full of good things for me to install?
[05:44] <kutan> I may have to word that differently.
[05:44] <usuario> what do u want?
[05:45] <usuario> good thingz
[05:45] <kutan> yeah.. good things
[05:45] <kutan> lol
[05:45] <kutan> Like games, programs etc.
[05:45] <k_user> use adept
[05:46] <k_user> u canfind anything
[05:46] <kutan> I know but I don't even know what to look for specifically >_>
[05:46] <Kragnerac> anybody? :(
[05:47] <skavenge> adept search 'game'
[05:47] <alexicon> !xine
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <k_user> where r u from? do u speak portuguese?
[05:47] <alexicon> !amarok
[05:47] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[05:47] <Jucato> err..
[05:47] <Jucato> alexicon: Amarok 1.4.2 is released in Kubuntu.org
[05:48] <k_user> i know  apage where there r lots of linux games but it in portuguese
[05:48] <kutan> I don't speak portuguese
[05:48] <Hobbsee> Jucato: that too
[05:48] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:48] <k_user> thats bad
[05:48] <Hobbsee> !no amarok is <reply>amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[05:48] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[05:49] <k_user> well i recomend (or however we spell that) enemy territory
[05:49] <k_user> thats a great game
[05:49] <Jucato> Hobbsee: nice! :-D
[05:49] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:50] <k_user> i still have  a problem... :(
[05:50] <alexicon> !multiverse > alexicon
[05:51] <k_user> my adept can't open without opening the konsole because it can't open the kdeusu
[05:51] <actinic> Kragnerac, that prog seems to be missing some dependency
[05:51] <kutan> !WINE > kutan
[05:51] <k_user> kdesu
[05:51] <actinic> Kragnerac, you might have better luck installing from source
[05:51] <k_user> i dont know
[05:52] <k_user> :(
[05:52] <k_user> noone helps
[05:52] <alexicon> hrmm im not seeing multiverse in adepts repository manager
[05:52] <alexicon> is that something you have to manually add now?
[05:53] <actinic> !repositories
[05:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:53] <k_user> adept is installed
[05:53] <Jucato> alexicon:Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:53] <k_user> it works
[05:53] <k_user> but needs the kdesu
[05:53] <alexicon> yeah
[05:54] <alexicon> i only see the multiverse backports..
[05:54] <alexicon> i'll add multiverse manually
[05:54] <Jucato> alexicon: do you have a line that says "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"?
[05:54] <alexicon> yep
[05:54] <Jucato> where xx = uk or us. or au. etc.
[05:54] <Jucato> alexicon: then add multiverse to that line
[05:55] <alexicon> ah ok
[05:55] <alexicon> cheers
[05:55] <Jucato> that's what the page I linked to instructs you to do...
[05:55] <Bbetto> how is the file to change the screen resolution?
[05:55] <alexicon> cool
[05:55] <Mike|> question - does kubuntu have a package for gnome, like ubuntu's kubuntu-desktop?
[05:55] <k_user> multiverse isnt on adept default, you have to edit the http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ line, then put "<space> multiverse" after the universe... in both lines
[05:56] <Jucato> ubuntu-desktop
[05:56] <Mike|> because i occasionally get fed up with kde and go to gnome, and vice versa
[05:56] <Mike|> ok
[05:56] <Jucato> Mike|: kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop
[05:56] <alexicon> excellent
[05:56] <k_user> deb and deb-src
[05:56] <actinic> whaddya guys think of xfce?
[05:56] <Mike|> i had to take the pc into a repair shop last week and they  just happened to leave a kubuntu disk in the tray by accident
[05:56] <Jucato> k_user: no need for deb-src if you're not going to download source code
[05:56] <Mike|> and I was planning to try ubuntu anyway
[05:57] <Bbetto> how is the file to change the screen resolution?
[05:57] <actinic> that's a good story Mike|
[05:57] <Jucato> actinic: it's fast... clean.... and ends there... at least for me...
[05:57] <k_user> Bbeto, depends on your video card
[05:57] <Jucato> Bbetto: what do you mean?
[05:57] <Mike|> thank you, i try. I'll be at the golden flamingo all next week
[05:57] <Mike|> tip your waitress
[05:58] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:58] <actinic> lol
[05:59] <k_user> is there any guitar pro-like program besides kguitar?
[05:59] <Mike|> took me a while to figure out why my computer kept booting kubuntu instead of suse. I was wondering if I needed to call and chew them out for messing with my hard drive when I noticed the light flashing in the dvd tray
[05:59] <alexicon> whats the name of that xinelib you need for amarok? libxine-extracodecs??
[05:59] <alexicon> ah gotit
[06:00] <k_user> libxine-extracodecs contains the jpeg codecs
[06:00] <actinic> !amarok
[06:00] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[06:00] <k_user> oops mpeg
[06:00] <jerry> hi
[06:00] <k_user> but to find it, you must open the multiverse at http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[06:01] <actinic> Mike|, my bootable porn CD really threw me for a loop
[06:01] <Mike|> hah
[06:01] <Agios> archangel_: how'd it go?
[06:01] <actinic> :)
[06:02] <archangel_> hey man It worked
[06:02] <Mike|> this really is the slicket OS installer i've ever seen
[06:02] <Agios> cool
[06:02] <Mike|> slickest*
[06:02] <actinic> Mike|, which one?  kubunt?
[06:02] <Mike|> yes
[06:02] <archangel_> I got a little hand full of errors though
[06:02] <k_user> dammit... i'm drunk
[06:02] <actinic> you're gonna luv this distro
[06:02] <Agios> archangel_: if it works, ignore them :)
[06:03] <actinic> except adding a printer can be a pain in the arse
[06:03] <archangel_> lol
[06:03] <Mike|> well, i don't have one anyway
[06:03] <actinic> then you'll really like it :)
[06:03] <Mike|> or i do, but it got a paper jam 3 years ago and i've never really had a reason to figure out how to clear it
[06:03] <archangel_> hey thanks for your help agios
[06:03] <actinic> still in there, huh?
[06:03] <Mike|> yup
[06:03] <actinic> lol
[06:03] <k_user> once thre was me
[06:04] <k_user> then there was a bunch o beers
[06:04] <k_user> then there was me drunk
[06:04] <unix_infidel> anyone getting garbled text with aterm and man pages, as aterm cant handle unicdoe?
[06:04] <actinic> speaking of beers i did a beer mod for my pc
[06:04] <unix_infidel> unicode*
[06:04] <k_user> and as time goes by, there was me drunk on irc
[06:04] <actinic> hang on i'll show you the pic ...
[06:04] <archangel_> Agios: good night dude
[06:04] <Mike|> i do wish it had been a little more obvious what you need to do before you can compile source code
[06:05] <archangel_> take it easy Agios
[06:05] <k_user> beer mod?
[06:05] <actinic> my beer mod for the pc:  ftp://oberon.gotdns.com/bottleopener.jpg
[06:05] <kutan> o_O How the hell do I make firefox my default browser instead of konquerer?
[06:05] <Mike|> took me 2 hours to figure out gcc wasn't installed, how to get all that stuff going, find the kernel headers, etc etc
[06:05] <Mike|> and I think I broke something in the process anyway
[06:05] <unix_infidel> actinic: p3, you must be crazy, because that's all that box is pretty much worth doing.
[06:05] <Mike|> LOL nice
[06:05] <actinic> hey it works!
[06:06] <k_user> hahahahahahahahahahhaahaha
[06:06] <k_user> i want one at m ypc
[06:06] <actinic> please ignore the books in the background :)
[06:06] <actinic> its an old pic
[06:06] <k_user> i did't see the windows stuff
[06:06] <k_user> oops
[06:07] <actinic> well they didn't have a 'kubuntu unleashed' book at the time
[06:07] <kutan> Anyone?
[06:07] <alexicon> hey does the version of firefox in adept let anyone paste links directly onto a tab/browser page
[06:07] <alexicon> mine makes me put it in the address bar
[06:08] <Mike|> paste links directly..... huh?
[06:08] <alexicon> just wanna know if theres an option to allow link pasting or if i should just get firefox from the web
[06:08] <Agios> nite archangel_
[06:08] <k_user> kubuntu changed my life
[06:08] <alexicon> like middle click a link onto the browser
[06:08] <Agios> glad it's working
[06:08] <alexicon> kubuntu saved my life keke
[06:08] <k_user> now i spend nights finding packages
[06:08] <alexicon> lol
[06:08] <derek_> !ati
[06:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:08] <skavenge> is that a labatt blue bottle in your hand?
[06:09] <skavenge> must be canadian
[06:09] <k_user> !traceroute
[06:09] <ubotu> traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[06:09] <actinic> kutan, system settings > kde components
[06:09] <kutan> !killtrace
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about killtrace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <kutan> >_>
[06:09] <kutan> <_<
[06:09] <k_user> optional :P
[06:09] <kutan> Thanks actinic
[06:09] <actinic> skavenge, it's been so long i don't remember
[06:10] <skavenge> from the top of the bottle it looks like 'labatt' heh
[06:10] <k_user> where r u people from?
[06:10] <actinic> you're prob right
[06:11] <alexicon> lol
[06:11] <alexicon> mmmm windoze refugee status
[06:11] <actinic> !firefox
[06:11] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:11] <k_user> dammit
[06:11] <k_user> BRAZIL
[06:11] <alexicon> england
[06:11] <alexicon> but im in japan right now
[06:11] <alexicon> hehehe
[06:11] <alexicon> fun
[06:11] <k_user> japan???
[06:11] <alexicon> almost time for some component shopping
[06:12] <alexicon> yeah in tokyo for 5 weeks visiting a mate from uni
[06:12] <actinic> <-- arizona
[06:12] <k_user> watashi wa nihon-go no gakusei detsu
[06:12] <alexicon> tokyo is brilliant!
[06:12] <kutan> Well that didn't work, do I need to uninstall konquerer to actually make firefox my default browser? =\
[06:12] <alexicon> lol
[06:12] <actinic> good old tokyo, the 'city waiting to die' according to many geologists
[06:12] <k_user> the only thing i still remember how to say
[06:12] <alexicon> watashi wa wakaremasen
[06:13] <k_user> what the hell is an wakarimasen??
[06:13] <k_user> dammit
[06:13] <alexicon> dont understand
[06:13] <alexicon> lol
[06:13] <Mike|> no...... you gotta edit the mime-types for http I think or html or something
[06:13] <Mike|> been so long, i can't really remember how I did it
[06:13] <alexicon> and hanashimasen for dont speak
[06:13] <Mike|> text/html i think
[06:13] <alexicon> thats about all i know lol
[06:13] <alexicon> tabemas for hungry
[06:13] <alexicon> mmm
[06:13] <alexicon> man i thought itd be all lush sushi out here but ive just been getting some weird food
[06:14] <alexicon> lotta liver kidneys hearts and joints D:
[06:14] <alexicon> pig joints were the worst srsly
[06:14] <Mike|> ...
[06:14] <k_user> i heard it rice everywhere..
[06:14] <k_user> they just eat rice
[06:14] <Mike|> they sell pickled pig feet in most places around here
[06:15] <Mike|> never tried it, never plan to
[06:15] <alexicon> nah
[06:15] <alexicon> ive not had much rice cept when eating chinese food here :P
[06:15] <alexicon> ah and bento boxes
[06:15] <alexicon> yakitori and okinawan food.. weird stuff man
[06:15] <Mike|> i hear the mcdonalds there sell something called a "rice ball"
[06:15] <alexicon> we got spam and eggs at an okinawan restarant lol
[06:15] <k_user> there's a sweet beans stuff too
[06:16] <alexicon> hrmm i havent gone to mc donalds yet
[06:16] <alexicon> see the odd sad looking westerner in the window and decide i best not go in
[06:16] <alexicon> lol
[06:17] <alexicon> hehe
[06:17] <alexicon> its a lotta bleach blonde hair
[06:17] <alexicon> big hair seems to be pretty in lol
[06:18] <alexicon> and yeah everyone likes their expensive brands here
[06:18] <alexicon> dolce and louis vittion @_@
[06:18] <alexicon> spent my money on a laptop tho lol
[06:18] <k_user> well
[06:18] <k_user> i never had sex with an asian
[06:19] <k_user> you can try that
[06:19] <alexicon> lol
[06:19] <alexicon> im a girl
[06:19] <k_user> dammit
[06:19] <Mike|> even better
[06:19] <alexicon> i hear the guys have small willies
[06:19] <skavenge> haha
[06:19] <skavenge> wow
[06:19] <alexicon> id rather not find out tho lol
[06:19] <k_user> you can find out though
[06:19] <alexicon> im sure i could haha
[06:19] <alexicon> good drinking culture here
[06:19] <k_user> whell
[06:19] <alexicon> well matched with britian
[06:19] <k_user> you can get two
[06:20] <alexicon> lol
[06:20] <k_user> they may make one
[06:20] <k_user> wathever
[06:20] <skavenge> you could find out and write a book so all the women out there really know whats going on
[06:20] <k_user> just forget it
[06:20] <skavenge> the secrets out
[06:20] <k_user> get an asian girl...
[06:20] <alexicon> lol
[06:20] <k_user> heheheheh
[06:21] <k_user> it would be better
[06:21] <alexicon> guys here are really cute tho
[06:21] <k_user> :P
[06:21] <alexicon> actually
[06:21] <alexicon> EVERYTHING here is really cute
[06:21] <alexicon> excessively
[06:21] <k_user> wow
[06:21] <alexicon> its good marketting though
[06:21] <skavenge> what do you expect from a country obsessed with hello kitty? ;)
[06:22] <k_user> man.. you make it looks sexy
[06:22] <alexicon> lol
[06:22] <alexicon> its awesome tho
[06:22] <alexicon> their jr rail system
[06:22] <alexicon> uses a penguin as its ticket mascot
[06:22] <alexicon> theres penguins everywhere!
[06:22] <InuDuelist> I come to the channel hoping to answer questions, and I get a common IM conversation?
[06:22] <Mike|> hah
[06:23] <alexicon> lol sorry InuDuelist whats your question
[06:23] <InuDuelist> Well, back to what I was doing.
[06:23] <k_user> ask a question
[06:23] <InuDuelist> No, to answer them.
[06:23] <InuDuelist> Not ask them.
[06:23] <k_user> ok
[06:23] <k_user> back to IM
[06:23] <alexicon> yep im off anyway, thanks for the help guys!
[06:24] <k_user> bye alex-girl
[06:24] <k_user> have a nice japan ther
[06:24] <Mike|> last time I did this, it broke the network card ^_^
[06:24] <pierreth> someone here to help me read a dvd?
[06:24] <InuDuelist> You want to read a DVD?
[06:25] <InuDuelist> I think you need more help than you think.
[06:25] <InuDuelist> :P
[06:25] <pierreth> why?
[06:25] <InuDuelist> ...
[06:25] <InuDuelist> It's a joke, but generally, people don't "read" DVDs.
[06:25] <InuDuelist> Their computers do.
[06:25] <pierreth> lol
[06:25] <InuDuelist> Anyway, back to stuff.
[06:25] <pierreth> i want to play a dvd on my computer
[06:26] <InuDuelist> Stick it in the DVD drive.
[06:26] <k_user> i never oppened an DVD on linux, but as i know, DVD codecs are expensive, but if you install videolan on windows, it has the free codec
[06:26] <Mike|> libcss =)
[06:26] <pierreth> ok, i have to pay for playing a dvd on linux?
[06:26] <k_user> i dont know if it works on linux
[06:27] <Mike|> sure it does. you need a) win32codecs and b) libcss, which might be included in a)
[06:27] <InuDuelist> apt-get install win32codecs
[06:27] <Mike|> and xine
[06:27] <InuDuelist> Close enough.
[06:27] <k_user> adept is good
[06:27] <pierreth> win32? i am on linux
[06:27] <Mike|> yes
[06:27] <der_steppenwolf> hi
[06:27] <Mike|> it's the name of the codecs package
[06:28] <der_steppenwolf> someone uses transcode?
[06:28] <Mike|> for stuff that normally playso n win32
[06:28] <pierreth> ok, does this works on ppc too?
[06:28] <Mike|> ...
[06:29] <k_user> theres no such ting as win32codecs in my adept
[06:29] <der_steppenwolf> to convert from divx to dvd?
[06:29] <pierreth> k_user: i have nothing that either
[06:30] <k_user> there's a videolan-doc
[06:30] <k_user> let me see if i can install that videolan stuff
[06:30] <Mike|> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[06:31] <Mike|> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187709
[06:31] <k_user> you can find videolan for ubuntu at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[06:32] <k_user> massa
[06:32] <k_user> you just have to install kvlc at the adept
[06:33] <k_user> massa = cool,  sorry... i was typing inportuguese for a while
[06:33] <k_user> :P
[06:34] <k_user> i'm installing it here to see if it plays a dvd
[06:35] <k_user> 70%
[06:35] <k_user> go go go
[06:37] <pierreth> if i try to play a dvd using totem i have this message: 'Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it'
[06:38] <k_user> ok! it worked!
[06:38] <pierreth> What are the appropriate plugins?
[06:38] <k_user> just open adept and find kvlc
[06:38] <k_user> install it
[06:38] <k_user> then you can open dvds
[06:38] <k_user> i just opened one with kaffeine
[06:39] <k_user> cool
[06:39] <k_user> ozzy dvd
[06:39] <Mike|> don't feel bad. i've never gotten totem to do anything else
[06:40] <Mike|> even WITH all the codecs installed and working in other players
[06:40] <der_steppenwolf> i am using transcode to convert an avi to a dvd, but i get an error:
[06:40] <der_steppenwolf> [transcode]  warning : /usr/lib/transcode/import_ffmpeg.so: undefined symbol: dts_init
[06:40] <der_steppenwolf> Loading video import module failed
[06:41] <der_steppenwolf> i have installed ffmpeg as well
[06:42] <pierreth> i does not work
[06:42] <pierreth> i have installed kvlc
[06:42] <k_user> umm
[06:42] <pierreth> and kaffeine does not play
[06:42] <Mike|> there's a multimedia faq for ubuntu somewhere. i saw it last night
[06:43] <pierreth> it says i do not have the right or the source does not countains data
[06:43] <k_user> maybe it the extracodecs package i  installed before
[06:43] <pierreth> what is it?
[06:44] <k_user> libxine-extracodecs
[06:44] <k_user> it says here it opens dvds
[06:44] <Hawkwind> !dvd
[06:44] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:44] <Mike|> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:44] <k_user> i think u must installl xine too
[06:46] <pierreth> i have libxine-extracodecs
[06:46] <pierreth> i have no package named xine
[06:46] <k_user> umm
[06:46] <k_user> install it
[06:46] <pierreth> install what?
[06:47] <k_user> gxine
[06:47] <pierreth> it is already installed
[06:47] <k_user> :S
[06:50] <Mike|> if kubuntu is this fast on vmware, i imagine it'll absolutely scream on that new computer when it gets here
[06:50] <Mike|> assuming it works on the hardware ^_^
[06:51] <RawSewage> Konversation 1.0 has been released
[06:51] <RawSewage> http://konversation.kde.org/
[06:51] <k_user> man.. i dunno
[06:51] <k_user> !dvd
[06:51] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:51] <flaccid> RawSewage: can i apt-get it?
[06:51] <RawSewage> flaccid, you have to add lines
[06:51] <RawSewage> to sources.list
[06:52] <flaccid> ok i check it out
[06:52] <RawSewage> http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Kubuntu
[06:52] <digivore> Is there a way for me to add a printer in kubuntu that is attached to my windows box?
[06:53] <flaccid> so 1.0 is not stable yet?
[06:53] <RawSewage> Im sure it is
[06:53] <flaccid> digivore: kcontrol -> peripherals -> printers
[06:53] <Mike|> well now I see why i had trouble with vmware tools last night. when you install build-essential, it downloads the wrong linux headers
[06:53] <flaccid> The latest stable release of Konversation is available in Kubuntu's regular package tree, just sudo apt-get install konversation or use the Adept package manager to install it (note that Konversation is installed by default).
[06:53] <Mike|> adept does
[06:54] <mats__> Hello -- excuse me, but has anyone tried to set up ZeroConf?
[06:55] <flaccid> RawSewage: must not be in sources yet
[06:55] <RawSewage> I installed it
[06:56] <RawSewage> it just came out today
[06:56] <RawSewage> probably in sources soon
[06:57] <flaccid> ok cool
[06:57] <flaccid> but it will be the same version thats in dev nightly build atm?
[06:57] <k_user> man
[06:57] <RawSewage> I have no clue
[06:58] <digivore> flaccid:  I'm trying to scan for it, but when i find the windows box, it gives me an error
[06:58] <k_user> i really dont know whats heappening
[06:58] <pierreth> do i have to mount the dvd?
[06:58] <k_user> i just put it inthe tray
[06:58] <k_user> it found it autommatically
[06:58] <flaccid> digivore: add it manually via smb
[06:59] <digivore> Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[06:59] <k_user> if it has find yours, you may see an dvd in your desktop
[06:59] <flaccid> digivore: also ensure availability by issuing in konsole: smbclient -N //server/printershare
[06:59] <flaccid> digivore: the smb server on the windows box must have a security restriction of some sort like perms
[07:00] <pierreth> kaffeine no longer works, i will restart
[07:01] <k_user> is your kubuntu dapper or breezy?
[07:01] <k_user> well
[07:01] <k_user> :P
[07:02] <flaccid> konversation 1.0 is going to be a lot different from my 0.19 i suspect
[07:02] <Jucato> flaccid: one major feature is having tree-like navigation at the side
[07:02] <Jucato> rather than just tabs at the tob/bottom
[07:03] <InuDuelist> Mmm. I'm off to sleep.
[07:03] <Hawkwind> Hmmm, when is knot2 supposed to be released ?
[07:03] <Jucato> sweet dreams InuDuelist!
[07:03] <InuDuelist> Thanks.
[07:03] <Jucato> Hawkwind: Supposedly today, but don't know for certain...
[07:03] <InuDuelist> Hey, Jucato, have any idea what happened to intelikey?
[07:03] <Jucato> InuDuelist: I home nothing unlikely...
[07:04] <InuDuelist> What?
[07:04] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Ahhh, I thought it was due on the 31st.  Guess it's due on the 1st(today)
[07:04] <k_user> well
[07:04] <k_user> i not drunk anymore
[07:04] <Jucato> Hawkwind: it's still the 31st on the west coast :-D
[07:04] <k_user> it sucks
[07:04] <k_user> i will smoke  acigarret and sleep
[07:05] <k_user> good night people
[07:05] <Jucato> good night k_user!
[07:05] <k_user> bye
[07:07] <flaccid> hmm cool Jucato
[07:08] <pierreth> look in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22215
[07:08] <Mike|> dammit
[07:08] <pierreth> this is the error i have with kaffeine
[07:08] <Mike|> clearly, vmware tools and kubuntu do not mix well
[07:08] <Mike|> eth0 has vanished and now i have no net access
[07:08] <Jucato> Mike|: are you using VMWare Server?.
[07:09] <Mike|> vmware player actually
[07:09] <Jucato> ah
[07:09] <Mike|> but i snagged a copy of tools out of workstation 5.5
[07:09] <Mike|> i have it for linux. i just can't get suse booted up at the moment
[07:09] <Jucato> I think Server has a better way of installing VMWare tools
[07:10] <pierreth> it works!!
[07:10] <Mike|> this is the same thing that happened last night. installed vmware tools and suddenly it lost all track of eth0
[07:10] <Jucato> btw, there's a SUSE 10.1 using KDE 3.5.4 VMWare image available
[07:10] <pierreth> but i have to use my external drive
[07:10] <pierreth> how can i use my internal drive instead?
[07:11] <Mike|> i can't resize the window without vmware tools. can't use vmware tools without borking my network
[07:11] <Mike|> lovely
[07:11] <Mike|> ok, so how do I force this thing to see my nic again?
[07:11] <Jucato> err...
[07:11] <Mike|> i do ifconfig and it doesn't see that it exists
[07:11] <Mike|> all it has it the loopback interface
[07:11] <Jucato> ifdown then ifup again?
[07:12] <Jucato> not entirely sure, though
[07:12] <Mike|> SIOCSIFADDR: No Such Device
[07:12] <Mike|> dammit
[07:12] <Jucato>  @_@
[07:13] <Mike|> maybe if I switch it to bridged network instead of nat....
[07:13] <Jucato> maybe. Although on my system, bridged didn't work...
[07:14] <Mike|> yeah, me too
[07:14] <Mike|> now that I think of it
[07:14] <Mike|> oh well. just wanted to play around with it anyway
[07:15] <Hawkwind> Jucato: http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/esp.html
[07:16] <Mike|> oh lord. it messed it all up. now it won't even reboot
[07:17] <Jucato> Hawkwind: ehehehe
[07:17] <Mike|> definitely won't try this when I install it for real
[07:18] <Jucato> !iso > Jucato
[07:18] <Mike|> why does ubuntu use ext3 instead of reiserfs?
[07:19] <Hawkwind> Mike|: It can use ReiserFS
[07:19] <Bbetto> what means this?
[07:19] <Hawkwind> Jucato: You figure out how that site works ?
[07:19] <Bbetto> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[07:19] <Bbetto> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-5891' to 'kded'
[07:19] <Bbetto> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[07:19] <Hawkwind> Ackkkk
[07:19] <Hawkwind> !pastebin > Bbetto
[07:19] <Jucato> Hawkwind: no
[07:19] <Jucato> :-D
[07:19] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Heh, let me explain
[07:19] <Bbetto> sorry
[07:20] <Hawkwind> Look at the original six cards...write them down on paper what they are.....
[07:20] <Hawkwind> Click the eyeball, anyone, then look at the 5 cards on the next screen.  They are completely different from the original 6
[07:20] <Bbetto> but is a big problem please help me
[07:20] <Hawkwind> For instance, you'll have a queen of clubs and a king of spades on the first screen.  Then you have queen of spades and king of clubs on the next
[07:20] <pierreth> how can i eject the dvd?
[07:20] <Hawkwind> Bbetto: Try telling us what you are doing or trying to do to get that error
[07:20] <Hawkwind> pierreth: eject /mnt/cdrom  or whatever the path is
[07:21] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Or press the eject button on the drive itself
[07:21] <pierreth> Hawkwind: there is no shortcut in Kaffeine?
[07:21] <Jucato> Hawkwind: oooh....
[07:21] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hah!  Pretty sneaky now ain't it
[07:21] <Jucato> definitely
[07:21] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Dunno.  CLI is where things work :)
[07:22] <Jucato> pierreth: if you have the DVD icon on the desktop, try right-clicking on it and choose Eject
[07:22] <pierreth> Jucato: why i cannot do it from kaffeine?
[07:22] <Mike|> i really hate it when software overrides my eject button
[07:23] <Hawkwind> What software would override your eject button ??
[07:23] <pierreth> Mike|: i really love that
[07:23] <Mike|> i'm sure there's a good reason, but usually i notice it when something crashes and now i can't get rid of a disc
[07:23] <Jucato> because Kaffeine isn't meant to handle drives and stuff? only multimedia? just guessing
[07:24] <pierreth> there is no eject button on the mac and it is better like that
[07:24] <Mike|> i had some serious problems with a cd burner once. it would get hung up when I inserted blank discs and I couldn't get the stupid thing unfrozen or open the tray
[07:25] <pierreth> Mike|: you can use a pin, no?
[07:25] <Hawkwind> Mike|: Paperclip in the little hole on the front of all CD/DVD roms works wonders.  That's why it's there actually :)
[07:25] <Jucato> yep..
[07:25] <Mike|> i didn't know that at the time
[07:25] <Jucato> that worked once...
[07:25] <Jucato> but I was so scared to use that...
[07:26] <Jucato> would you guys happen to know if Konversation could do transparencies like XChat can?
[07:26] <Mike|> never did figure out what was wrong with it. I replaced it with a dvd burner and it works fine
[07:26] <Hawkwind> Jucato: No it can't
[07:26] <Jucato> sad,,,
[07:26] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Sho is planning on adding true transparency with composite soon he said
[07:26] <Jucato> ehehe.
[07:26] <Hawkwind> Jucato: The transparency thing is why I haven't switched to konversation yet actually
[07:27] <Jucato> lol! and I thought you were going to say it was unnecessary :-D
[07:27] <Jucato> btw, XChat doesn't use composite to do transparency right?
[07:27] <Jucato> I mean, just like Konsole?
[07:27] <Hawkwind> Jucato: No
[07:28] <Hawkwind> It uses suedo transparency
[07:28] <Jucato> ahh... hope I won't have to enable composite/translucency/shadows to have that in Konversation...
[07:28] <Jucato> darn kompmgr almost thrased my system...
[07:29] <Jucato> s/thrased/trashed
[07:29] <Jucato> darn fast fingers...
[07:30] <Hawkwind> I'd love to try AIGLX/XGL but I'm too scared of trashing my system as well
[07:31] <Jucato> well, kompmgr is supposed to be more stable, iirc... since it doesn't need AIGLX/XGL...
[07:31] <ketsugi> kompmgr?
[07:31] <Hawkwind> Mandriva 2007 has it where you set it up in MCC and it's native
[07:32] <Jucato> kompmgr = KDE Composite Manager, built into KWin
[07:32] <ketsugi> ah, so it's not a separate package, then
[07:32] <Jucato> nope. nothing you need to install
[07:33] <Jucato> it WAS one of the strengths of KDE over GNOME, before XGL came...
[07:33] <Jucato> now that XGL's around, I don't think anyone would bother fixing it... that's why I'm not that motivated to complain/file a bug report...
[07:33] <Jucato> :-(
[07:33] <pierreth> ok Kaffeine works but not Totem
[07:34] <Jucato> probably because Kaffeine uses a different engine than Totem? (unless they are both using xine now)
[07:35] <pierreth> i will try to restart with my external drive off
[07:38] <Jucato> I wonder when Kubuntu will have its own unique startup/shutdown sound...
[07:39] <Jucato> just like Ubuntu's...
[07:40] <pierreth> kaffeine now works with my internal drive
[07:40] <Jucato> wb nixternal!
[07:41] <pierreth> totem is still not working
[07:41] <pierreth> i will unsintall it
[07:42] <nixternal> do you ever sleep ;)
[07:42] <nixternal> totem, in kubuntu?
[07:42] <nixternal> go lag go
[07:42] <Jucato> nixternal: I do.. but it's almost 2pm here. :-D
[07:43] <Jucato> timezonezzzzzzz
[07:43] <Bbetto> how upgrade kde?
[07:43] <Jucato> nixternal: how about you?  you ain't sleeping yet?
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Bbetto, i assume you mean how can you update KDE?
[07:43] <nixternal> gettin' ready to ;)
[07:43] <Jucato> lol
[07:43] <Bbetto> nop
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> look at kubuntu.org
[07:43] <Bbetto> ooops
[07:43] <nixternal> go Admiral_Chicago go!!!  Thats how us chicago guys do it ;)
[07:44] <Hawkwind> Same here.  In fact, I'm heading to bed now
[07:44] <pierreth> well, good night now!
[07:44] <Jucato> ooh.. both from Chicago..
[07:44] <Jucato> yikes!! don't leave me here.... @_@
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal, i meet a few guys from chicago that know about *nix
[07:44] <nixternal> wouldn't have it any other way..he is one of my underground hackers ;)
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> tell you in our channel
[07:44] <Jucato> ahaha!
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> shh, blowing my cover
[07:45] <nixternal> heh
[07:45] <Jucato> nixternal: would you know if there are suggestions about making a unique Kubuntu startup/shutdown sound, or just using Ubuntu's?
[07:45] <nixternal> like making your own sound?
[07:45] <Jucato> no, I mean as the default.
[07:46] <nixternal> isn't it located under "System Settings -> Sounds & Multimedia" or something?
[07:46] <nixternal> kcontrol will have it as well somewhere
[07:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Bbetto, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[07:46] <Jucato> nixternal: Kubuntu only uses the KDE defaults. Ubuntu has it's own unique startup/shutdown sound
[07:46] <Mike|> you should change it to a wave of the guy shouting LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROY JENKINS!!!!!!
[07:47] <nixternal> hahahahahahahahaha
[07:47] <Mike|> or better, change it on somebody else's pc, jack up the volume and turn it off
[07:47] <Jucato>  @_@
[07:47] <Mike|> and make sure you're around next time they boot up :D
[07:47] <Jucato> I'd go for a screaming sound
[07:47] <nixternal> like a hight pitched scream..oh no, the ideas are running
[07:47] <Mike|> i just so happen to have that file
[07:47] <Mike|> somewhere around here
[07:48] <Jucato> lol
[07:48] <Jucato> but no, really. seriously speaking...
[07:48] <Jucato> er.. nvm... I was just wondering really...
[07:49] <Mike|> must be on my laptop
[07:50] <Jucato> ehehe
[07:50] <Mike|> nope, here it is
[07:51] <Mike|> http://www.mikehealan.com/stuff/leeroy_jenkins.mp3
[07:51] <Mike|> :D
[07:51] <Hobbsee> Jucato: we have kubuntu defaults for that, which are different.
[07:51] <Jucato> Hobbsee: kubuntu-defaults only uses one of the KDE sounds, right?
[07:52] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i think we use kubuntu.ogg or something
[07:52] <Hobbsee> id' have to look it up
[07:52] <Jucato> aah
[07:52] <Jucato> I'll go check again...
[07:52] <Jucato> ah the kubuntu-login.ogg (barely audible)?
[07:53] <Hobbsee> think so
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think my computer has a start up tone
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> but then again, i don't turn it off
[07:53] <Jucato> well, at least there's one... I'll just edit it to make it louder...
[07:53] <Jucato> not even restart KDE or X?
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> nope
[07:53] <Jucato> ehehe nice
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll probably turn  it off tomorrow night or something
[07:54] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true, it si very quiet
[07:54] <Jucato> hm... is it legal to edit it? I'll probably crank it up in Audacity or something...
[07:54] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i'd check if anyone's planning on changing it first
[07:55] <Jucato> aah
[07:55] <Jucato> kool 15 minutes to go for the download to finish
[07:55] <Jucato> so, I guess it wasn't changed in Edgy?
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, what kind of stupid question is thatL
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> is it legal to edit
[07:56] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: a stupid question that probably deserves a stupid answer?
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> chicken
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> there a stupid answer
[07:56] <Jucato> thanks! ehehe
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> at best, you can submit it to the kubuntu folks and ask them to put it in Edgy
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't see why they wouldn't
[07:57] <Jucato> ehehe! I'll just be making it louder in Audacity... no big change
[07:57] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it hasnt so far....ask Ridde*ll when he wakes up in -devel as to whether anyone's doing it.
[07:57] <Jucato> (but need to get Audacity installed first)...
[07:58] <Hobbsee> Jucato: and/or find a better sound completely.  *shrugs*
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i would put it on my computer
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> but I don't have my leeroy clips anymore
[07:58] <Jucato> Mike|'s idea sounds good... and the mp3 sounds even better
[07:58] <Jucato> :-D
[07:58] <Hobbsee> heh
[07:58] <Mike|> http://www.mikehealan.com/stuff/leeroy_jenkins.mp3
[07:58] <Hobbsee> Jucato: or we just start running subliminal messages for the login sound
[07:59] <Jucato> yeah!! that would be awesome@
[07:59] <Jucato> s/@/!
[07:59] <Mike|> i laughed for a full hour first time I saw that leeroy video
[07:59] <Mike|> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7714643693602998196&q=leeroy+jenkins
[08:00] <Jucato> a subliminal message that says "Hobbsee is queen" would be nice...
[08:00] <Hobbsee> hah
[08:00] <Jucato> lol
[08:00] <Hobbsee> i didnt think that would catch on, you know
[08:00] <Jucato> you are the queen of Kubuntu, AFAIK...
[08:01] <Hobbsee> Jucato: true.  there arent many to choose from
[08:01] <Hobbsee> el's the queen of usability, there arent many other women there
[08:01] <Hobbsee> Jucato: did you know the story behind that?
[08:01] <Jucato> aaah.. Ellen, the woman behind the new System Settings?
[08:01] <Hobbsee> yes
[08:01] <Jucato> I have to thank her... really great job
[08:02] <Jucato> Hobbsee: the story behind?
[08:02] <Hobbsee> Jucato: why i was getting called queen
[08:02] <Jucato> lol no
[08:02] <Hobbsee> Jucato: she's in -devel sometimes.
[08:02] <Jucato> I just thought of it...
[08:02] <Hobbsee> Jucato: so you can :P
[08:02] <Jucato> what a cowink-e-dink...
[08:02] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ahhh.  well, i went for MOTU a while ago, but i'm not really a master, being female.
[08:02] <Jucato> never knew you were really called "the queen" there..
[08:03] <Hobbsee> didnt really want to be mistress of the universe, so i said that i'd have to be called queen of the universe, or queen hobbsee.  it stuck :P
[08:03] <Jucato> [btw, if anyone needs help/assistance, feel free to ask. don't be afraid to interrupt] 
[08:03] <Jucato> ehehe! but it sounds sooo nice
[08:03] <Jucato> ack! why does Audacity have to use GTK 1...
[08:04] <Hawkwind> Ackkk....why does anything have to use GTK 1
[08:04] <Hawkwind> Hah
[08:04] <Jucato> lol
[08:04] <Jucato> but GTK 2 is more or less bearable...
[08:05] <Jucato> btw, Hobbsee is ellen working on AdeptUsability, too?
[08:05] <Hobbsee> Jucato: dont know
[08:05] <Hobbsee> Jucato: that's...what...a spec?
[08:05] <Jucato> a page in the wiki. lol
[08:06] <Hobbsee> ah yes, the one written by people who have never even looked at the adept codebase?
[08:06] <Jucato> yep... that's what we get for wikis...
[08:07] <Hobbsee> well, they do have their place.  but a long list of wishes is pretty useless if you dont have the maintainer on board, wanting to do them.  or arent going to do them yourself
[08:09] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Here's one for ya.  Let me know the results when I wake up in the morning :P  http://www.smalltime.com/dictator.html
[08:09] <Jucato> ok
[08:30] <nonickname> lol
[08:32] <Bbetto> there something like automatrix in kubuntu?
[08:32] <Jucato> Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[08:33] <Jucato> yes
[08:33] <Jucato> Both Automatix and EasyUbuntu support Kubuntu
[08:43] <Bbetto> in console how can i get automatix
[08:43] <Hobbsee> !automatix
[08:43] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[08:43] <Jucato> Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[08:44] <Jucato> Bbetto: that Automatix website has instructions on what to do
[08:44] <Jucato> (although I have to talk to them about giving instructions to use "sudo kate"...)
[08:46] <Healot> gksu kate
[08:46] <Jucato> rawr Healot
[08:46] <Jucato> kdesu kate
[08:46] <Healot> oops
[08:46] <Healot> wrong desktop
[08:46] <Jucato> heh
[08:47] <Kiongku> yo
[08:47] <Kiongku> XD
[08:47] <Jucato> whoa! Kiongku long time!
[08:47] <Kiongku> Jucato: ya
[08:47] <Kiongku> Jucato: did u get a nwe upgrade for amarok?
[08:47] <Kiongku> *new
[08:48] <Jucato> !amarok
[08:48] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[08:48] <Kiongku> hmm
[08:48] <Jucato> (credits to Hobbsee for teaching ubotu)
[08:48] <Kiongku> 1.4.1 seems so
[08:49] <Jucato> so...??
[08:49] <Kiongku> upgrading XD
[08:49] <Kiongku> so Jucato how are u doing
[08:49] <Kiongku> New stuff?
[08:49] <Jucato> doing fine. how about you?
[08:49] <Jucato> new stuff? KTorrent 2.0.1 in dapper-backports?
[08:50] <Kiongku> cant find good torrents XD.. doing all through irc
[08:50] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:50] <Kiongku> Me.. sleepy.. aprt that i think i'm still alive
[08:51] <Kiongku> what torrents u got?
[08:51] <Jucato> ehehe secret....
[08:51] <Bbetto> how install kde in ubuntu?
[08:52] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:52] <Kiongku> Jucato: hahah
[08:52] <Bbetto> onli kde no all suit
[08:52] <Jucato> Bbetto: if you are already using Kubuntu, you are using KDE already
[08:52] <Kiongku> Jucato: he sais ubuntu..
[08:52] <Bbetto> nop, i using ubuntu but only want kde
[08:52] <Bbetto> no all the programs
[08:54] <Kiongku> hmm
[08:54] <Kiongku> !info kde
[08:54] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[08:54] <Kiongku> ;p;
[08:54] <Kiongku> *lol
[08:54] <Jucato> I was having a hard time understanding what he was saying from the start... @_@
[08:54] <Kiongku> hahaha
[08:55] <Healot> just want some suggest, i think ubuntu libxine is way outdated, since ubuntu repackage the extras into libxine-extracodecs
[08:56] <Healot> should I make my custom package to replace libxine-extracodecs?
[08:56] <Healot> i think i did the same with many games packages before...
[08:57] <Jucato> Healot I think everyone in Dapper would be extremely pleased if a newer libxine (1.1.2) was packaged/backported for FLAC
[08:57] <Kiongku> bah.. dunt care much as long as it works :)
[08:57] <Hobbsee> Jucato: they're looking into it
[08:57] <Jucato> Hobbsee: great!!
[08:57] <Hobbsee> there is no libxine, i've got no idea what Healot's talking about
[08:57] <Hobbsee> !info libxine
[08:57] <ubotu> Package libxine does not exist in any distro I know
[08:57] <Healot> Jucato: I am thinking of that, with the latest xine from xinehq
[08:58] <Jucato> !info libxine-main1
[08:58] <ubotu> libxine-main1: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2 (dapper), package size 2865 kB, installed size 6632 kB
[08:58] <Hobbsee> Healot: if you replace libxine-extracodecs, many more things will break
[08:58] <Healot> Hobbsee: was thinking of that consquence
[08:59] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~$ apt-cache showsrc xine-lib | grep ^Bin
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Binary: libxine1-dbg, libxine1, libxine-dev, libxine-main1
[08:59] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~$ show libxine-extracodecs | grep Source
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Source: xine-extracodecs
[08:59] <Hobbsee> hmmm.  i thougth that xine-extracodecs would be in xine-lib
[08:59] <Healot> but I successfully package the latest xine package, should I make the package to replace libxine-extracodecs
[08:59] <Hobbsee> they're both 1.1.2 in dapper
[08:59] <Healot> i can do that in the older ubuntu release, since xine was in one single package
[09:00] <Jucato> Dapper uses xine-lib 1.1.1
[09:00] <Healot> i mean, packaging the latest xine from xinehq....
[09:00] <Healot> i think the newer than ubuntu's
[09:00] <Hobbsee> s/dapper/edgy/
[09:00] <Jucato> :-D
[09:00] <Hobbsee> Healot: there are likely ubuntu/debian specific patches on that.
[09:01] <Healot> thanks...
[09:01] <josef> jucato can you help me out with the mp3
[09:01] <Jucato> like what Hobbsee said, they're working to make a newer libxine available, probably in dapper-updates?
[09:01] <Jucato> or maybe just a patch...
[09:01] <Kiongku> hmm
[09:01] <Hobbsee> Jucato: backports, i think
[09:01] <Jucato> josef: how may I be of service?
[09:01] <Healot> rebuild or patch or backports?
[09:01] <Jucato> aah...
[09:01] <Hobbsee> not sure yet - siretart wants to look at it, and remove some of the crack.
[09:02] <Kiongku> btw backports.. its like a beta test base?
[09:02] <josef> well i have already installed 3 3 files for mp3 i mean the codecs but still it wont play mp3
[09:02] <Jucato> Kiongku: no
[09:02] <Hobbsee> josef: install libxine-extracodecs?
[09:02] <josef> i mean 3 files sory
[09:02] <Jucato> Kiongku: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:03] <Netslayer> am i missing glibc or something ? error: stdio.h: No such file or directory     << so how do i get it?
[09:03] <Healot> thanks, Hobbsee and Jucato
[09:03] <Jucato> josef: I think I mentioned installing libxine-extracodecs yesterday?
[09:03] <Hobbsee> Netslayer: have a look on packages.ubuntu.com for that file
[09:03] <Hobbsee> Netslayer: there's a search by file thing - second search box
[09:04] <josef> yes you gave me the link i read it but i was confused but i didt to install it but it still doesnt play
[09:04] <Jucato> I think the header files are in linux-headers-*
[09:04] <Jucato> josef: so is libxine-extracodecs installed now?
[09:05] <josef> yes  i think so there are 3 files that i installed the gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:05] <Kiongku> Jucato: oh lol.. well its kinda beta :P in the sense its not final approved by ubuntu
[09:05] <Jucato> Kiongku: it is approved. otherwise it won't even be in the repositories
[09:05] <Jucato> josef: no, not those
[09:06] <Kiongku> Jucato: ehrm.. ok nvm stupid question anyway
[09:06] <Hobbsee> Kiongku: what's not approved?
[09:06] <josef> ?? with one... is it
[09:06] <Jucato> just "libxine-extracodecs"
[09:06] <Jucato> no gstreamer stuff...
[09:06] <pancho> sudo apt-get update
[09:06] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:07] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: i meant the backports.. but nvm i was getting the wrong idea i guess
[09:07] <Hobbsee> ah
[09:07] <josef> how to intall thru add/remove or adep in terminal
[09:08] <Jucato> Kiongku: they're just for the latest stuff you don't absolutely need to have. but the packagers would never put something of beta quality in the repositories. dapper-backports is still an official repository, even if it's just backports
[09:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe
[09:08] <Jucato> josef: K Menu > System > Adept (Package Manager) and look for "libxine-extracodecs"
[09:09] <josef> ok wait
[09:09] <Jucato> ehehehe
[09:09] <pancho_> PAncho2006
[09:10] <Healot> btw, who is running the ubuntu-classroom channel?
[09:10] <Jucato> nalioth, nixternal, hybrid. the members of Ubuntu-NUN mostly
[09:10] <josef> i got it but not installed  and then what should i do
[09:11] <Jucato> josef: install it. right-click and select "Request Install"
[09:11] <Jucato> then click on "Preview Changes"  in the toolbard to make sure that it's going to be installed and nothing will be removed
[09:11] <Jucato> then click on Apply Changes
[09:18] <Kiongku> any ppl here knows how to use prozilla?
[09:18] <Hobbsee> yep
[09:18] <pavi> Guys
[09:18] <Jucato> hehehe
[09:18] <josef> ok  i got it alread
[09:18] <Jucato> prozilla again... :-D
[09:18] <pavi> I want Kubuntu source
[09:18] <Hobbsee> nice prozilla :)
[09:18] <Jucato> lol
[09:18] <Hobbsee> pavi: apt-get source foo
[09:19] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: u know how to authenticate a dl with prozilla?
[09:19] <Hobbsee> Kiongku: not off hand.  proz -h would though
[09:19] <pavi> where do I get kubuntu source so  that I can costumise kubuntu and create a localised KDE distro in telugu language  called Kswecha
[09:19] <Kiongku> hmm
[09:19] <pavi> guys check out
[09:19] <pavi> www.swecha.org
[09:19] <Jucato> pavi: source for which part of Kubuntu?
[09:19] <Hobbsee> pavi: archives.ubuntu.com
[09:19] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: i have no idea how to use it
[09:20] <Hobbsee> Jucato: all of it, presumably
[09:20] <pavi> toltal kubuntu
[09:20] <pavi> I wanna change all the font and language
[09:20] <Hobbsee> Kiongku: doesnt it say that on the site?  proz url in a console works for most things
[09:20] <Jucato> hm... there are more than 15,000 packages available in Kubuntu....
[09:20] <pavi> atleast 100 important man
[09:20] <Hobbsee> Jucato: you can take the distro and make a custom distro based off that.  or custom packages
[09:20] <Hobbsee> pavi: google it.
[09:20] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: i know the username/password.. but i have no idea how to write the command in console for it to accept
[09:21] <pavi> office ,konqueror
[09:21] <pavi> ya will do man
[09:21] <pavi> can any one tell me how do I make a localised distro out of kubuntu ?
[09:21] <Jucato> I don't think you need to compile Kubuntu in order to support different languages or fonts
[09:21] <josef> jucato i got installed already...
[09:21] <Jucato> josef: now try playing an MP3 in Amarok again
[09:22] <Hobbsee> Kiongku: type man proz into a console
[09:22] <Kiongku> manual?
[09:22] <Hobbsee> yeah
[09:22] <Hobbsee> oh wait, maybe you need to use wget with a user name and password
[09:23] <Kiongku> hmm it says something vaguely
[09:23] <Jucato> or, if there's a man page for proz/prozilla, you could "man:/proz" in Konqueror...
[09:23] <pavi> jucato then what to do I dont wanna see english at all in my distro as far as possible
[09:23] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: do u see the option -n?.. how should i write it
[09:23] <josef> jucato there is no sound comming....
[09:24] <Hobbsee> Kiongku: not sure, i've not tried it.
[09:24] <Hobbsee> Kiongku: should be proz -n urllinkhere
[09:24] <Kiongku> Hobbsee:  hehe ok
[09:24] <Jucato> josef: but is it playing? I mean, it's not skipping the MP3 tracks?
[09:24] <Hobbsee> i only use prozilla for downloading iso's, etc
[09:26] <josef> jucato its skipping the mp3 tracks
[09:27] <Jucato> josef: in Amarok, go to Settings menu > Configure Amarok > Engines and make sure that it's using the xine Engine
[09:27] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: oh well.. cant get it to work
[09:28] <Kiongku> looks like i'll have to go to windows and use download accelerator
[09:29] <josef> jucato its using the xine in the engine
[09:29] <Jucato> josef: ok, try restarting Amarok (quit, then launch it again)
[09:30] <Kiongku> !info prozgui
[09:30] <ubotu> Package prozgui does not exist in any distro I know
[09:30] <Kiongku> !info prozilla
[09:30] <ubotu> Package prozilla does not exist in any distro I know
[09:30] <Kiongku> hmm
[09:30] <Hobbsee> cant be packaged
[09:30] <Kiongku> i see
[09:31] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: prozgui or prozilla?
[09:31] <Hobbsee> both
[09:31] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: ah?.. what version of prozgui
[09:31] <josef> jucato still the same
[09:31] <Jucato> hmm...
[09:32] <Jucato> really weird...
[09:32] <Hobbsee> Kiongku: all of them?
[09:32] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: lol.. u using all of them :P?
[09:32] <josef> but its know the playtime and the title.
[09:32] <Hobbsee> hey cool!  it's GPL'd now
[09:33] <Hobbsee> it's in repos, too!
[09:33] <Kiongku> ??
[09:33] <Hobbsee> wait, no it's not
[09:33] <Jucato> Hobbsee: please make up your mind... or at least it something :-D
[09:34] <Hobbsee> prozilla *isnt* in teh repos
[09:34] <Jucato> "eat something first..." ehehe
[09:34] <Hobbsee> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1172
[09:34] <Kiongku> o0
[09:34] <Hobbsee> what the....
[09:34] <Jucato> hunger and starvation can cloud your judgment and make you do things...
[09:35] <Hobbsee> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=prozilla&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[09:35] <Jucato> which is what I'm feeling right now....
[09:35] <Hobbsee> this gets more and more bizarre...
[09:36] <Kiongku> lol
[09:36] <Jucato> ok... you have stumbled upon one of that packages that suddenly disappear in more recent releases....
[09:36] <Hobbsee> indeed.  looks like it got removed from debian
[09:37] <josef> jucato
[09:37] <josef> libxine-extracodecs"
[09:37] <josef> [14:09]  <josef> ok wait
[09:37] <Jucato> lol
[09:38] <Jucato> josef: I'm really not  sure what else to say... i fyou have libxine-extracodecs installed, by all means it should be working...
[09:38] <Kiongku> Hobbsee.. bad.. bad... Jucato good person.. no eat
[09:38] <Jucato> lol
[09:38] <Kiongku> eat debian.. who removed prozilla
[09:38] <josef> ok that my friend  i will ask mor info thanks alot....
[09:38] <Jucato> I'm not the healthiest dish around, I can assure you of that :-D
[09:38] <Jucato> josef: really sorry
[09:38] <Kiongku> lol
[09:39] <Hobbsee> Removed the following packages from unstable:
[09:39] <Hobbsee>   prozilla | 1:1.3.7.4-1 | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
[09:39] <Hobbsee> Closed bugs: 308826
[09:39] <Hobbsee> ------------------- Reason -------------------
[09:39] <Hobbsee> RoM; includes non-free code, obsolete, orphaned upstream
[09:39] <Hobbsee> drat.
[09:39] <josef> no  problem jucato you have already helping me with thing that i dont know...
[09:39] <Hobbsee> i did remember that there was something with the licencing
[09:39] <josef> bye jucato
[09:39] <Jucato> bye josef! and good luck!
[09:39] <josef> thanks
[09:39] <Kiongku> RoM?
[09:40] <Hobbsee> reasons of removal or something, i guess
[09:40] <Hobbsee> i'm not terribly familiar with debian sutf
[09:40] <Hobbsee> *stuff
[09:40] <Hobbsee> http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/prozilla.html
[09:42] <Hobbsee> debian 308826
[09:42] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yes, pastebin, i know
[09:43] <Jucato> huh?
[09:43] <Jucato> I was just whistling.. really...
[09:43] <Jucato> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/08/paris-hilton-tinkerbell-linux.html
[09:43] <Jucato> oops!
[09:44] <Hobbsee> [17:43]  <Ubugtu> Debian bug 308826 in ftp.debian.org "RM: prozilla -- RoM; includes non-free code, obsolete, orphaned upstream" [Normal,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/308826
[09:44] <Hobbsee> oh well
[09:44] <Jucato> wrong window...
[09:44] <Kiongku> lol?
[09:46] <Kiongku> really no commetns Jucato.. i'm not goign in tinkerbell anyway soon XD
[09:46] <Jucato> lol
[09:49] <Kiongku> prozilla is bad O_O
[09:49] <Jucato> ^_^
[09:49] <Jucato> KGet is gooood
[09:49] <Jucato> lol
[09:50] <Kiongku> lol
[09:52] <mario> ciao  c' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi
[09:53] <Jucato> !it
[09:53] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:53] <mario> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:53] <Kiongku> do
[09:53] <Kiongku> cant limit Kget
[09:53] <Jucato> ...
[09:53] <Kiongku> ... using whole bandwidth
[09:53] <Jucato> lol!
[09:53] <Jucato> err..
[09:54] <Jucato> sorry.. wrong window again
[09:54] <Kiongku> hmm?
[09:54] <Kiongku> talking in offtopic?
[09:54] <Jucato> no
[09:55] <Jucato> in our local team
[09:55] <Kiongku> oh
[09:55] <Kiongku> hey Jucato where does Kget ut his file by default?
[09:55] <Jucato> ut?
[09:56] <Kiongku> *put
[09:56] <Jucato> Kiongku: wherever you tell it to. it will ask you where you want to save a download
[09:56] <Kiongku> hmm
[09:56] <Kiongku> i forgot where i said it
[09:57] <Jucato> ??
[09:58] <do> hello
[09:58] <Kiongku> olleh
[09:58] <yannux_> hello
[09:59] <do> sorry it is just test
[09:59] <Jucato> lol
[09:59] <do> have a good day bye
[10:03] <josef> Jucato I restart the komputer and in kaffeine the mp3 is running  do you think if I reinstall amarok will fix the problem or not because i removed amarok already
[10:03] <Jucato> josef: probably. just reinstall amarok
[10:03] <josef> ok thanks see you around
[10:05] <pavi> jucato
[10:05] <pavi> u there ?
[10:05] <Jucato> yeah?
[10:05] <pavi> answer my query dude
[10:05] <pavi> abt how to  translate the imp packages
[10:05] <pavi> in kubuntu
[10:06] <Jucato> pavi: I don't know how to translate packages, but there are people who are involved in internationalization/localization that might know about this
[10:06] <Jucato> I suggest yo take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com and search for "internationalization" or "translation"
[10:07] <pavi> ok
[10:08] <Jucato> pavi: you could also try to drop by #ubuntu-translators and ask there
[10:11] <pavi> ok will go there
[10:11] <pavi> thanks
[10:15] <josef> jucato its working already....
[10:15] <Jucato> josef: glad to hear that!
[10:18] <misieq> how can i grab a video with what i do on my desktop?
[10:19] <josef> jucato well thanks. well i have to try too use samba to connect my other computer do you have any advice for me
[10:19] <Jucato> josef: I have no experience with samba and networking.. sorry
[10:20] <josef> ok no problem see you later  thanks
[10:24] <redondo81> Hi boys, I have a problem mounting a partition fat32 on my linux, I mounted it, but I cannot write on it,do you know why?
[10:25] <pavi> I can help
[10:25] <pavi> u
[10:25] <pavi> ] Its because
[10:25] <pavi> u mounted it as a normal user
[10:25] <redondo81> thanks pavi
[10:25] <pavi> u have to change the entries in a file
[10:25] <pavi> called
[10:26] <Jucato> bye guys!! and gals!
[10:26] <pavi> dude I will paste bin ok
[10:27] <redondo81> I dont undesrtand, how does it call?
[10:28] <redondo81> pavi, can you help me again please?
[10:29] <flaccid> gui to turn on services for auto startup?
[10:29] <pavi> ya pls
[10:29] <misieq> redondo81: man fstab
[10:29] <pavi> wait naa
[10:29] <flaccid> equiv. of redhat system-config-services ?
[10:30] <redondo81> ok, but I don't understand what I have to do?
[10:30] <misieq> you have to add user or users option, don't remeber which
[10:31] <redondo81> I dont know how to enter in etc/fstab as root
[10:31] <misieq> sudo <youreditor> /etc/fstab
[10:31] <misieq> e.g. sudo mcedit /etc/fstab
[10:32] <redondo81> thanks
[10:34] <Diabolic> redondo81: sudo goes for all operations you have to do as root.
[10:34] <Diabolic> redondo81: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:36] <redondo81> thanks, I'll read it
[10:37] <pavi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22226
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> Hi guys :)
[10:39] <|lostbyte|> How is xgl on kde .4 ?
[10:44] <micmac> Hi all
[10:44] <pavi> hi
[10:45] <|lostbyte|> anyone ?
[10:45] <|lostbyte|> micmac, pavi hi :)
[10:46] <pavi> hi lost bye
[10:46] <|lostbyte|> *lostbyte
[10:47] <micmac> When one install Kubuntu, is it possible to keep your current partitions? I mean I have a data partition that I'd like to keep untouched.
[10:47] <micmac> s/install/installs
[10:47] <misieq> micmac: yes, of course.
[10:47] <flaccid> micmac: yeah np
[10:47] <misieq> why would you think it is not?
[10:48] <flaccid> heh i still got a fedora lvm on this notebook to get rid off
[10:48] <micmac> So the kubuntu installer doesn't force repartionioning?
[10:48] <misieq> no
[10:48] <flaccid> hell no :)
[10:48] <micmac> misieq, I just want to ask the question first, rather than get myself into trouble :)
[10:48] <flaccid> it presents easy to understand options without risk of accident
[10:48] <flaccid> sweet as
[10:48] <micmac> Sounds charming ;) Thanks
[10:49] <misieq> why would a system make you lose data? i wouldn't deal with this system then..
[10:50] <flaccid> windows installer can sometimes assist you in making mistakes.
[10:50] <misieq> flaccid, ;P never happened to me
[10:50] <flaccid> it has to me
[10:50] <misieq> too bad :(
[10:50] <flaccid> i think i had different expectations of the flow
[10:51] <flaccid> hard to remember what when i'm drunik
[10:51] <misieq> that would explain much ;)
[10:51] <flaccid> i wish it did
[10:52] <flaccid> i think maybe its older install of windows like 2k or before
[10:52] <misieq> perhaps that's why i never let windows to repartition my disk, i always make it with external program and install windows on prepared part...
[10:52] <flaccid> yeaah thats true
[10:52] <flaccid> i think its something to do with leaving the other partitions intact, but it lies
[10:52] <flaccid> either that or just bad wording
[10:53] <misieq> i wonder how they are going to solve windows image-based install in vista ;)
[10:53] <flaccid> its bad to be literal when m$ is being used
[10:53] <misieq> perhaps they'd like to pwn your whole hdd ;)
[10:53] <flaccid> hehe yeah
[10:53] <flaccid> windows image-based install in vista?
[10:54] <misieq> yeah, not heard?
[10:54] <flaccid> negative
[10:54] <misieq> wait a sec
[10:54] <micmac> I guess I'll just make a backup of everything and give Kubuntu a go then :)
[10:55] <micmac> Can I choose lilo over grub?
[10:56] <misieq> micmac: kubuntu WON'T touch your partitions unless you LET IT
[10:56] <micmac> No, I mean I know lilo already but I never dealt with grub. Would be easier for me.
[10:56] <misieq> flaccid: here you go: http://www.apcstart.com/site/dwarne/2006/07/773/inside-vistas-new-image-based-install
[10:56] <misieq> grub is whole lot easier
[10:56] <misieq> and it has nice graphics (at least in suse :( )
[10:56] <micmac> Mmh, ok
[10:57] <micmac> :) I don't care much about graphics.
[10:57] <micmac> Ah, we'll see
[10:57] <micmac> I hope :-)
[10:58] <misieq> micmac: that's kinda like grub: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=637&slide=26
[10:59] <flaccid> grub should be easy as
[10:59] <misieq> i mean it is grub with sth like a _video_ here but that's installation only, later you get the screen without all the hellos
[10:59] <flaccid> lilo seemed wierd for me
[10:59] <micmac> :) I rather have a blank screen with lots of text output scroling by :-)
[11:00] <misieq> that's no problem. you just have to turn off the "splash"
[11:01] <misieq> as it will limit tex display and present you with some eyecandy bootloader that m$ couldn't do ;)
[11:01] <bioticpro> hello, I switched the engine from xine to gstreamer, and now kaffeine won't launch, how do I change the engine back?
[11:02] <misieq> settings -> engine
[11:02] <misieq> oh... kaffeine won't launch?
[11:03] <misieq> then you have to remove/rename ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine i guess to restore defaults
[11:03] <micmac> Ah, getting to your first install of a new Linux disto is always an experience :-)
[11:04] <misieq> bioticpro: or ~/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc
[11:04] <misieq> i have some really good feelings about suse, too bad it uses rpm-s :(
[11:04] <bioticpro> misieq: cool, that worked great :)
[11:05] <misieq> i miss sysinfo: in konqueror, search in k-menu and generally all this robustness
[11:05] <misieq> bioticpro: np
[11:05] <bioticpro> PCLinuxOS is good distro that uses rpm... uses apt and synaptic to manage them
[11:05] <IKEA`> hrm...
[11:05] <flaccid> you can do apt-rpm on any distro
[11:06] <misieq> i heard some good about pclinuxos too... i was told it is a system for lazy ones, once set-up it goes for ever and ever ;P
[11:06] <misieq> what'd you think about mepis? it's debian-ish too, right?
[11:07] <_lupine> suse is not good :(
[11:07] <misieq> flaccid: do you have any experience with deltarpms?
[11:07] <misieq> _lupine: why so?
[11:07] <flaccid> misieq: nope
[11:08] <misieq> i think deltarpms could be only alternative to debs when speaking about rpms
[11:08] <bioticpro> misieq: pclinuxos is very good, like the control center, better than yast by far
[11:08] <misieq> these are like differential packs only for you existing base .rpm
[11:08] <bioticpro> pclinuxos is like a slicker bugfree(mostly) version of Mandriva
[11:08] <_lupine> incredibly slow and pretty insecure (OOTB)
[11:09] <bioticpro> misieq: on other thing, kaffeine plays video on quicktime, but not audio, know how to fix?
[11:09] <misieq> perhaps you have to set up the engine...
[11:09] <_lupine> post-install, I had to disable Novell's entire package management system and use 3rd-party alts. I also had to disable the SSH server that had been installed and activated without my knowledge...
[11:09] <_lupine> ...plus, the installer is too opaque
[11:10] <misieq> the installer is way to slow... especailly at the setting up part
[11:10] <bioticpro> misieq: I get audio from other video files, just not quicktime
[11:10] <misieq> !quicktime
[11:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:11] <bioticpro> misieq: I get quicktime audio with mplayer...  I have installed xineplugins and xinewin32 already
[11:11] <_lupine> oh, it went fast enough... just "too fast", at times. Like the hard-disc partitioning step
[11:12] <misieq> bioticpro: do you have quicktime audio with xine?
[11:12] <bioticpro> misieq: no
[11:13] <misieq> then in xine you have to set up the engine
[11:13] <misieq> remeber to change the knwledge level in the main tab as it won't display you too much options by default
[11:16] <bioticpro> misieq: I checked under codec path, seems fine, don't know what else to check
[11:17] <misieq> check for default audio device
[11:17] <misieq> try /dev/dsp
[11:18] <misieq> go in console and perform "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" and if you hear anything then you should set it as your def audio/mixer device
[11:18] <misieq> i have to go out to shop, bbl
[11:20] <misieq> just in case someone was interested in my screenshots: mjaniszewski2.ovh.org/sreen1.png and screen2.png :)
[11:21] <apokryphos> doesn't work
[11:21] <misieq> s/sreen1.png/screen1.png
[11:22] <apokryphos> waste of space, totally useless :D
[11:22] <misieq> i like my desktop clean :)
[11:22] <misieq> i use katapult a lot
[11:22] <bioticpro> misieq: fixed xine/kaffeine issue
[11:22] <misieq> and think of yakuake too...
[11:22] <apokryphos> katapult's good, but can't always use it yet
[11:22] <misieq> bioticpro: good for you, what was it then?
[11:23] <apokryphos> that windeco drives me crazy too; bleh :P
[11:23] <misieq> and i like my desktop to be an eyecandy ;)
[11:23] <apokryphos> like superkaramba?
[11:24] <apokryphos> nice enough theme, but that stuff always gets old :D (and CPU-intensive)
[11:24] <misieq> superkaramba -> only the thnig on desktop. i think of tormso/conky
[11:24] <apokryphos> right
[11:24] <misieq> gotta go njow, bbl
[11:24] <apokryphos> adios
[11:25] <bioticpro> misieq: I didn't have xine-faad installed, that fixed the audio for xine/kaffeine quicktime
[11:30] <buz> since i upgraded to kde 3.5.4 a few weeks ago i suffer of random kwin crashes...
[11:31] <buz> which is starting to get me fed up
[11:31] <waseda> i cannot boot Ubuntu with problem EXT3-fs error (device dm-0): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 1 not in group (block 0)....pivot_root:No such file or directory
[11:31] <waseda> i use Live cd Kubuntu and run fsck /dev/hda1
[11:33] <waseda> here is result of fdisk:
[11:33] <waseda>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:33] <waseda> /dev/hda1   *           1           8       64228+  83  Linux
[11:33] <waseda> /dev/hda2               9        4870    39054015    5  Extended
[11:33] <waseda> /dev/hda5               9         130      979933+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:33] <waseda> /dev/hda6             131        4870    38074018+  83  Linux
[11:34] <waseda> still cannot boot ubuntu, any idea?
[11:34] <aliasfred> under the live cd, can you mount the fs on which the ubuntu boot ?
[11:35] <aliasfred> my guess is more a misconfigured grub or something wrong in the boot process
[11:35] <aliasfred> than a issue with the fs itself
[11:54] <deb> waseda: what is the content of the menu.lst in grub ?
[11:55] <nidal>  hi all, I have a linux samba server configured against windows Active Directory using winbind. I tried to create home folder on the fly using pam_mkhomefolder.so and it fails and doesn't allow anyone to login to the server at all
[11:55] <nidal> following error is logged in the linux server
[11:55] <nidal> smbd[23673] :   smb_pam_error_handler: PAM: session setup failed : Permission denied
[11:55] <nidal> any one any idea ?
[11:59] <josef> hello
[11:59] <josef> does anybody know to get wine  and how to install
[12:00] <grothesk> josef: sudo apt-get install wine ?
[12:01] <josef> ok thanks grothesk
[12:13] <eeos> hi there. where are the gdlib for ubuntu? i cannot find them
[12:16] <phreakys> hi
[12:16] <phreakys> i just tried to install jedit from the ubuntu guide, but that failed
[12:17] <phreakys> now when i try to install other software with apt,ill get some error
[12:17] <phreakys> something like: jedit needs to be reinstalled, but no archive can be found
[12:17] <phreakys> any idea to solve it?
[12:17] <phreakys> i used dpkg
[12:26] <cobras> hi...i have a problem with kubuntus update.I always get this errors "Could not connect to..." "Failed to fetch.."  "W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead." i am newbie plz help..
[12:26] <atidem> hello
[12:27] <phreakys> check your sourcelist cobras
[12:27] <phreakys> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:28] <phreakys> then sudo apt-get update
[12:29] <cobras> phreakys: thanx but i have checked it
[12:30] <redondo81> Can anyone help me to configure /etc/fstab to mount a partition e permit to my user to write on it and not only as root?
[12:32] <redondo81> can you help me please?
[12:32] <redondo81> Is thare anyone?
[12:33] <redondo81> can anyone help me to mount a partition?
[12:35] <atidem> redondo81: use the 'Disk & Filesystems" manager in 'System Settings' - it's really simple and intuitive
[12:35] <waseda> deb:
[12:35] <waseda> ## ## End Default Options ##
[12:35] <waseda> title           Encrypted Ubuntu
[12:36] <waseda> root            (hd0,0)
[12:36] <waseda> kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/mapper/hda6 ro quiet splash
[12:36] <waseda> initrd          /initrd.img.new
[12:36] <waseda> savedefault
[12:36] <waseda> boot
[12:36] <waseda> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386
[12:36] <waseda> root            (hd0,0)
[12:36] <waseda> kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/mapper/hda6 ro quiet splash
[12:36] <waseda> initrd          /initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[12:36] <waseda> savedefault
[12:36] <waseda> boot
[12:36] <waseda> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386 (recovery mode)
[12:36] <phreakys> omfg
[12:37] <phreakys> that ubuntu guide crashed my apt
[12:45] <misieq> if i have kde installed from kubuntu repositories and i have kde-dev packages, can i compile metabar? or can i build .deb to use with dpkg, or do i have to rebuild whole kde?
[12:46] <Fille-LTH> Hi
[12:46] <misieq> hi
[12:46] <Fille-LTH> I was wondering if I could draw myself an Kubuntu-OS-tan?
[12:47] <Fille-LTH> Could I draw the name and logo?
[12:47] <Fille-LTH> Or should I ask someone specific?
[12:49] <misieq> Fille-LTH: to merge it to kubuntu release?
[12:50] <misieq> ot just for yourself?
[12:50] <Fille-LTH> a drawing to draw on my site
[12:50] <Fille-LTH> for myself / public viewing
[12:50] <misieq> you ask about copyrights?
[12:50] <Fille-LTH> yes
[12:50] <Fille-LTH> Ive atm mailed the trademarks@ubuntu.com and asked them too
[12:50] <misieq> well, i guess you can use it freely, since almost all linux projects are gpl
[12:51] <Fille-LTH> I suspect they can answer it :)
[12:51] <misieq> maybe check on wikipedia?
[12:51] <misieq> or goofle for kubuntu logos
[12:51] <misieq> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Kubuntu-logo.svg
[12:51] <Fille-LTH> yes I know, I just want to know from the Kubuntu dev-team if its awwwwright for me to use it for my OS-tan v.
[12:51] <Fille-LTH> ^^
[12:52] <misieq> they say it is public domain on this wiki page
[12:52] <misieq> so you can do whatever you want
[12:52] <Fille-LTH> what does public domain mean?
[12:53] <Fille-LTH> that I can freely use the Kubuntu logo however I please?
[12:53] <Fille-LTH> for more info on OS-tans: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os-tan
[12:53] <misieq> yes, but be sure to check also here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kubuntu_Logo.svg
[12:54] <misieq> got confused now....
[12:54] <misieq> wait a sec
[12:54] <Fille-LTH> misieq?
[12:54] <Fille-LTH> :)
[12:54] <misieq> if u'll stick to this logo here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Kubuntu-logo.svg you can use it freely
[12:55] <Fille-LTH> ok
[12:55] <Fille-LTH> but if I want to draw it then :P
[12:55] <misieq> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain
[12:55] <misieq> you want to draw it? well... i guess that all the people at kde-look.org don't ask about the permission..
[12:56] <Fille-LTH> yea I dont want to get sued ;P
[12:56] <misieq> they just draw and since nobody is against that then it's allright
[12:56] <misieq> if you would like to use it in some porn or sth else, well.. you'd better ask then ;)
[12:57] <misieq> but in other cases i wouldn't bother
[12:57] <Fille-LTH> hehe
[12:57] <Fille-LTH> no worry
[12:57] <Fille-LTH> :P
[12:57] <Fille-LTH> I dont think ppl who draw that ask either so
[12:57] <Fille-LTH> ;P
[12:58] <misieq> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FindPage?action=fullsearch&titlesearch=1&value=logo
[12:59] <misieq> !deb
[12:59] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:12] <misieq> !deb-src
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deb-src - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <Diuneimama> Hi everyone. Im new over here, and i need help about kubuntu thing :) anyone can help me?
[01:13] <eeos> hi there. I cannot start apache2 on kubuntu for amd64
[01:13] <misieq> Diuneimama: what's your problem?
[01:13] <misieq> eeos: and yours?
[01:13] <eeos> i am using the system services
[01:13] <eeos> misieq: i cannot start apache2
[01:14] <misieq> /etc/init.d/apache2 start?
[01:14] <eeos> misieq. everything seems in order
[01:14] <misieq> any error?
[01:14] <eeos> misieq it does not work and does not return any error
[01:14] <misieq> did you configure it properly?
[01:14] <eeos> misiq it is driving me mad, i have tried all possible commands and configuration i know
[01:14] <misieq> *have you configured
[01:14] <Diuneimama> Misieq I would like to know about kubuntu ? if i install kubuntu from windows. is my windows file will be overwrite or deleted?
[01:15] <eeos> misieq i did everything i knew, including following documentation and readme file
[01:15] <eeos> misieq it does not even return and error to dbug
[01:15] <misieq> Diuneimama: windows is not a file. you may mean a prtition. no, it won't be overwritten unless you specifiacally say so
[01:16] <eeos> misieq i am using apache2 prefork
[01:16] <misieq> eeos: check whether it actually runs "ps ax | grep httpd|
[01:16] <misieq> eeos: check whether it actually runs "ps ax | grep httpd"
[01:16] <eeos> misieq yes i ave already done that, it is not running
[01:16] <eeos> misieq /etc/init.d/apache2 start should at least return and error
[01:16] <misieq> Diuneimama: and as far as i know you can't install ubuntu from windows, you can boot to live cd and then install it
[01:17] <Diuneimama> Misieq i now currently dunhave different partition. how do i install kubuntu in a different partition
[01:17] <misieq> tail /var/log/apache2/error.log ?
[01:17] <Diuneimama> Misieq. i have a kubuntu cd.
[01:17] <misieq> Diuneimama: you have windows on ntfs or fat?
[01:17] <eeos> misieq it does not exist so the naswer tot tail command is empty
[01:18] <Diuneimama> Misieq ntfs
[01:18] <misieq> eeos: and "apache2ctl start" ?
[01:18] <eeos> misieq it does not exist so the *answer *to *the tail command is empty
[01:19] <alexicon> anyone know an app that lets you map characters to the keyboard?
[01:19] <misieq> Diuneimama: then you have to resize your partition with some tool that supports ntfs (like partiton magic) and create a free space _AFTER_ your windows partition
[01:19] <misieq> !xkb
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xkb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <misieq> alexicon: it's xkb
[01:19] <alexicon> hrm ok
[01:19] <alexicon> thanks
[01:19] <qbuntu> Diuneimama: just boot from cd and follow the steps "use free space on windows partition"
[01:20] <misieq> qbuntu: ubuntu would install on ntfs?
[01:20] <christianp> hi all
[01:20] <eeos> misieq if i use sudo apache2ctl start, the it starts. grrrrrrrrrrr!
[01:20] <misieq> haven't known that... i like it :)
[01:20] <qbuntu> dont really know.. ;)
[01:20] <misieq> eeos: so problem solved?
[01:21] <christianp> i have problems in burning dvd with my TravelMate290 with k3b and kubuntu (no problem with Ubuntu dapper drake with k3b installed)
[01:21] <eeos> misieq partially, I have lost hours because i followed the documentation, and it is not the first time. *$%&QQ!
[01:21] <misieq> eeos: but it works now?
[01:21] <christianp> k3b says: fail to change write speed and burnng fails
[01:22] <christianp> what's the matter?
[01:22] <eeos> misieq yes it does. it does not start from system settings though.
[01:22] <eeos> misieq thanks a lot for your help!
[01:22] <misieq> christianp: i can't tell you exactly what to do, but try to get some info (or try to burn sth) with cdrdao/growiso...
[01:23] <misieq> or cdrecord
[01:23] <misieq> eeos: stop apache and do the following:
[01:23] <misieq> eeos: tail -f /var/log/messages
[01:23] <misieq> eeos: and in separate console: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:24] <eeos> misieq done
[01:24] <misieq> and what does tail say?
[01:26] <kutan> What's a good MP3 player?
[01:26] <misieq> amarok
[01:26] <eeos> misieq here it is http://phpfi.com/147578
[01:26] <misieq> !amarok
[01:26] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[01:26] <kutan> Hmmm I have it
[01:26] <kutan> But when I play an mp3 it skips it
[01:26] <misieq> !mp3
[01:26] <kutan> What plugins do I need? =\
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:26] <kutan> ..o
[01:26] <eeos> misieq when i  /etc/init.d/apache2 start in  separate console, nothing happens
[01:27] <misieq> eeos: :/ actually no info about apache
[01:27] <eeos> misieq i know
[01:28] <misieq> and has apache2/error.log appeared?
[01:28] <misieq> do you sudo /etc/... ?
[01:28] <eeos> misieq course
[01:29] <eeos> misieq of course
[01:29] <misieq> no idea then... you'll have to check the /etc/init.d/apache2 itself or just use apache2ctl
[01:29] <misieq> gotta go now
[01:29] <misieq> bbl
[01:30] <christianp> misieq: i have the same problem installing gnomebaker:
[01:30] <christianp> Executing 'mkisofs -gui -V disco dati GnomeBaker -A GnomeBaker -p Christian Pizzuto -iso-level 3 -l -R -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points video_ts=/home/christian/vacanze2006/cd1/video_ts | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
[01:30] <christianp> INFO:	UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale settings.
[01:30] <christianp> 	Assuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem,
[01:30] <christianp> 	use -input-charset to override.
[01:30] <christianp> :-( Failed to change write speed: 2117->2700
[01:31] <eeos> misieq thanks
[01:34] <kutan> Kubuntu did it again
[01:35] <kutan> I just installed audacity and it's not on my k menu
[01:35] <D4m4ge> hi
[01:35] <D4m4ge> has the win32codecs paquet been removed?
[01:35] <kutan> and I KNOW if I add it manually, the manual one is gonna be on there along with the one that should have been on there before.
[01:35] <D4m4ge> i cant find it with apt-cache search
[01:37] <fdoving> kutan: try to run 'kbuildsycoca' from konsole.
[01:37] <fdoving> kutan: that will update the menus and such.
[01:37] <kutan> alright cool cause I'm too lazy to manually add an icon and then remove it.
[01:38] <rjb> why would adept want to remove kdelibs-bin from my system??
[01:44] <alexicon> is there a graphical listener for xkb
[01:45] <angelaki> hello
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> rjb: Not needed if you are updating to kde 3.5.4
[01:45] <angelaki> who can help me with wine and ie6?
[01:47] <rjb> h3sp4wn: you mean..?
[01:47] <rjb> that the package is no longer used?
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> rjb: If you have updated kde - it is no longer used
[01:48] <rjb> ok. but i followed through the update on my laptop, and now handling of removable media seems to be broken.
[01:49] <rjb> in konq, when i hit "remove securely" from the right click menu, the media is not unmounted.
[01:50] <rjb> i need to go to a term and type sudo umount ...
[01:51] <rjb> (maybe the menu item has a different label in english, i use a localized version)
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> rjb: I never use any gui stuff for that
[01:52] <rjb> h3sp4wn: well, it used to work great until 3.5.4
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> rjb: Well don't use backports then
[02:00] <angelaki> who can help me with wine and ie6?
[02:06] <|lostbyte|> Hi..
[02:06] <|lostbyte|> Where is the disk.cache option ?
[02:06] <jjholt> i have a volume control on my notebook in normal ubuntu I could asign the it actually control the volume any way to that in kubuntu?
[02:18] <Lynoure> keep does not run with kdesu? Is there any graphical backup program that does?
[02:20] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: I am going to try ifolder at some point in the near future (but it is probably a complete overkill - being able to just connect via a vpn and get any file will be good though)
[02:21] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: Ok, let us know how it worked
[02:26] <diuneimama> hi i need help in the process of installing kubuntu. anyone can help?
[02:26] <phreakys> hi
[02:26] <diuneimama> hi there :)
[02:27] <diuneimama> can u help?
[02:27] <phreakys> just follow instructions and ull be fine
[02:27] <diuneimama> erm.. im in step 5 of 6
[02:27] <phreakys> easiest is to install from an empty nonpartioned hd
[02:27] <diuneimama> i dunwan to delete my windows
[02:27] <phreakys> ah
[02:27] <diuneimama> currently i dun have another partition
[02:28] <diuneimama> which one do i choose?
[02:28] <diuneimama> is it resize ?
[02:28] <phreakys> i guess you should use partition magic to split your partition
[02:28] <misieq> what options do u have?
[02:28] <misieq> is it ntfs?
[02:28] <phreakys> no linux uses ext3
[02:28] <diuneimama> option 1 resize scsi1
[02:29] <misieq> i believe he said he has windows and i don't know windows that would install on ext3...
[02:29] <diuneimama> option2 erase entire disk scsi1
[02:29] <phreakys> that could be risky for your data
[02:29] <phreakys> ow, no
[02:29] <diuneimama> option3 manually edit partition table
[02:29] <gamxx> how to add fvwm to kdm? :|
[02:29] <kutan> When I first installed kubuntu I used the option to use all of the extra space on my harddrive
[02:29] <phreakys> i suggest you first make a full backup
[02:29] <diuneimama> kutan its it work?
[02:30] <misieq> if you want to preserve your data you should resize your partitions to create free space (preferably after windows part)
[02:30] <ryanakca> How do you record your desktop session? Like into a low quality movie?
[02:30] <misieq> and later let kubuntu use that free space as it wishes
[02:30] <diuneimama> hmm ok.. i will choose option 1
[02:30] <kutan> Uh
[02:30] <kutan> Well when I did use all of the extra space, it worked fine
[02:30] <kutan> except for the fact that windows only had 800 megs left to work with =P
[02:31] <diuneimama> ok :) thanks kutan
[02:31] <kutan> I try
[02:31] <diuneimama> erm but.. below that
[02:31] <diuneimama> there is a new partition size .. do i nid to adjust the percentage of it? kutan
[02:32] <kutan> o_o Well I didn't use the option for manually editing the partition table
[02:32] <BTR> Hi, how do i configure my network-device?
[02:32] <kutan> there was an option for me to use all of the extra space on my harddrive
[02:32] <diuneimama> yup kutan the option u choose was option 1 right?
[02:32] <[GuS] > BTR, in system settings...
[02:32] <phreakys> i hope that doesnt mess up windows for you
[02:32] <diuneimama> :)
[02:33] <kutan> Ehm... I don't know for sure, don't rely on me, I'm a semi-newbie. :o
[02:33] <kutan> ask a pro
[02:33] <diuneimama> :)
[02:33] <BTR> [GuS] : i didn't seem to find that program in kubuntu, can i write anything in the commandline that opens the system settings?
[02:33] <kutan> misieq looks like he knows what he's doing :D
[02:33] <[GuS] > In K-menu you have Systemsettings
[02:34] <[GuS] > or just type: systemsettings
[02:34] <diuneimama> erm.. how much space do i need for the installation of kubuntu?
[02:34] <BTR> ok, will try again:) thanks [GuS] !.)
[02:34] <gamxx> how to add fvwm to kdm? :|
[02:34] <misieq> diuneimama: it depends on what you want to install
[02:34] <diuneimama> im installing kubuntu
[02:34] <[GuS] > i think he refer to standar installation
[02:34] <misieq> diuneimama: what do you want to have?
[02:34] <[GuS] > or default...
[02:34] <diuneimama> its say not enuf space
[02:35] <diuneimama> kubuntu 6.06?
[02:35] <misieq> but what packages?
[02:35] <ryanakca> gamxx: normally? you install fvwm and it's automaticly added
[02:35] <misieq> any services?
[02:35] <[GuS] > diuneimama, how much space are you usinn for it?
[02:35] <misieq> 2,5 should be safe for default
[02:35] <diuneimama> gus i m now have 5gb free
[02:35] <[GuS] > is more than enought diuneimama
[02:35] <diuneimama> its says not enuf space to install
[02:35] <diuneimama> XD
[02:36] <misieq> you have to mark this 5GB partition as "/"
[02:36] <[GuS] > yes...
[02:36] <diuneimama> how to mark?
[02:36] <[GuS] > and don'r forget the swap...
[02:36] <misieq> or i you have this free space i believe there should be option to let kubuntu-oinstaller to use free space as it needs
[02:36] <[GuS] > after partitioning diuneimama  you will have those options
[02:36] <diuneimama> ya
[02:36] <diuneimama> the 1st option to let me to choose
[02:37] <diuneimama> resize scsi1
[02:37] <diuneimama> but i clcik continue it says not enough space :S
[02:37] <[GuS] > why you don't do it by hand?
[02:37] <diuneimama> how?
[02:37] <misieq> what do you have now?
[02:37] <diuneimama> sorry , im a noob XD
[02:37] <[GuS] > is the last option when you start to prepare the disk...
[02:38] <[GuS] > in the installation process
[02:38] <diuneimama> im in step 5 of 6
[02:38] <[GuS] > ops
[02:38] <misieq> what disk and partition sizes?
[02:38] <[GuS] > to late :P
[02:38] <diuneimama> 3rd option says manually edit partition table
[02:38] <[GuS] > yea
[02:38] <[GuS] > that one diuneimama
[02:38] <diuneimama> click on that?
[02:38] <beligum> Hi everybody, I'm in the process of creating some promotion-Kubuntu video's for captorial.com, any suggestions?
[02:38] <[GuS] > yep
[02:38] <diuneimama> ok
[02:38] <diuneimama> i try now
[02:38] <diuneimama> thanks
[02:38] <ryanakca> gamxx: if it doesn't work... ping me and I'll guide you threw
[02:38] <misieq> beligum: XGL! :D
[02:39] <ryanakca> How do you record your desktop session? Like into a low quality movie?
[02:39] <beligum> yes, but I haven't installed it yet, here
[02:39] <ryanakca> beligum: Compiz
[02:39] <[GuS] > so.. make primary partition.... not all the 5gb... rememver you nee for swap
[02:39] <[GuS] > remember*
[02:39] <beligum> using ScreenKast
[02:39] <beligum> (I'm the author of both)
[02:39] <diuneimama> erm.. so how much i roughly needs gus
[02:40] <[GuS] > diuneimama, has much is you ram,?
[02:40] <beligum> hmmm, XGL and Compiz, basically, the fun stuff :)
[02:40] <misieq> diuneimama: 2,5GB is enough for default, you can add more
[02:40] <gamxx> ryanakca: doesn't work :|
[02:40] <misieq> beligum: you can add basket, some kde stuff to show how things work
[02:40] <diuneimama> gus and misieq i have 5gb free only
[02:40] <misieq> like preview in this yellow pop-up when you hover over .jpg
[02:40] <diuneimama> ram?
[02:41] <[GuS] > diuneimama, yes
[02:41] <[GuS] > fopr calculate the swap
[02:41] <diuneimama> 512
[02:41] <[GuS] > ok
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> beligum: Are you also the author of libinstrudeo ? - It cannot build on dapper without loads of messing around
[02:41] <[GuS] > for swap is need the double size of your ram.. not not when you have enought ram
[02:41] <[GuS] > so 512mb for swap will be ok
[02:41] <ryanakca> beligum: you wrote ScreenKast?
[02:41] <beligum> yep, I 'm
[02:42] <beligum> yes, I have :)
[02:42] <diuneimama> gus, thanks
[02:42] <[GuS] > just create a primary partition of 4.5GB
[02:42] <beligum> hmmm, there are packages of libinstrudeo: instrudeo.bpower2.com/packages
[02:42] <[GuS] > then extended, and logical partition of the rest
[02:42] <diuneimama> i still loading inside of the option3
[02:42] <misieq> beligum: and is there any X app that could capture video? or how does screenkast work? i mean efficiency?
[02:42] <gamxx> ryanakca: i estedt reinstall fvwm, still not working
[02:42] <TheInfinity> question: is there any way to install the RTL8111B network driver without getting all packages which you need for gcc4 and then compiling the sourced from the realtek site?
[02:43] <beligum> Well, ScreenKast is a real capturing program
[02:43] <diuneimama> gus, i will try :) its slow XD
[02:43] <[GuS] > ok
[02:43] <[GuS] > with pc is?
[02:43] <ryanakca> gamxx: sudo apt-get install fvwm fvwm-crystal fvwm-gnome fvwm-icons
[02:43] <beligum> Currently, I'm improving the export-routines and adding video-editing
[02:43] <gamxx> ok...
[02:43] <ryanakca> gamxx: wait, you did that?
[02:43] <diuneimama> pc is?
[02:43] <misieq> beligum: where do i get it?
[02:43] <gamxx> only sudo apt-get install fvwm
[02:44] <TheInfinity> problem: no other network card and gcc4 seems not to be on the kubuntu AMD64 cd
[02:44] <ryanakca> beligum: got a link to the sources? I'm willing to _attempt_ packaging it
[02:44] <beligum> http://captorials.com/index.php?cmd=software
[02:44] <beligum> I already made packages, see the link
[02:44] <gamxx> ryanakca: only sudo apt-get install fvwm
[02:44] <beligum> btw, version 0.1.3 is coming up
[02:45] <beligum> I'm looking for people who know how to make some cool promotion-videos, see captorials for examples
[02:45] <beligum> I'm not saying the ones there are cool, but it's a start :)
[02:45] <[GuS] > yeah diuneimama wich computer you have
[02:46] <diuneimama> Gus : im using toshiba
[02:46] <[GuS] > ok
[02:46] <diuneimama> a lame laptop XD
[02:46] <ryanakca> beligum: have you seen the suse kmenu promo? it's SWEET!
[02:46] <[GuS] > ok
[02:47] <Jucato> it's SUPER sweet. :-D
[02:47] <beligum> no, do you have a link?
[02:47] <ryanakca> yep, just a secf
[02:47] <ryanakca> http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html     http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2283
[02:47] <Jucato> heheh! that was quick
[02:48] <ryanakca> beligum: did you get libinstrudeo threw apt? or is it a "need-to-package so that this other package can be packaged"?
[02:49] <beligum> well, libinstrudeo is actually the backend of screenKast
[02:50] <beligum> I wrote both, but split them up for flexibility
[02:50] <beligum> BTW, indeed, super sweet, that video
[02:50] <beligum> Should be possible (and great) on captorials too
[02:51] <beligum> Did novell design that functionality?
[02:52] <ryanakca> "As previously blogged, openSUSE 10.2 will have a redesigned KDE start menu created by the KDE and usability team at SUSE..."
[02:52] <ryanakca> I'm guessing yes
[02:52] <ryanakca> beligum: kk
[02:52] <beligum> very nice, but seems to be eating CPU for breakfast
[02:53] <ryanakca> beligum: mind if I go ahead and package the library?
[02:53] <beligum> or GPU
[02:53] <beligum> no problem, go ahead
[02:53] <beligum> for what distribution?
[02:54] <beligum> because I already have specfiles and debian dirs ready in SVN trunk
[02:54] <beligum> btw, are there people here with some gstreamer knowledge?
[02:57] <angelaki> who can help me with wine and ie6?
[02:57] <angelaki> who knows how i can add a missing dll in wine?
[02:57] <kutan> Well... I have one question for you angelaki, and don't get offended
[02:58] <kutan> Why the hell would you want to install IE in the first place? >_>
[02:58] <Jucato> kutan: I could think of one (or two) possible reason/s, but that would be my reason...
[02:58] <angelaki> because the pc has kubuntu and my bank work only with ie
[02:59] <kutan> Okay
[02:59] <kutan> Well, unfortunately I have no idea, sorry for the inconvenience.
[02:59] <beligum> I do
[02:59] <beligum> somebody wrote a script for that
[02:59] <beligum> sec
[02:59] <angelaki> never mine
[02:59] <angelaki> some day i bomb my bank
[03:00] <Jucato> there's also a program called ie4linux I think.. I forgot the name...
[03:00] <beligum> check this: http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[03:00] <angelaki> i have try it but i cant install the plugins
[03:00] <Jucato> aah
[03:02] <Jucato> ehehe! mornin Hawkwind!
[03:02] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Mornin it is :)
[03:03] <kutan> Ugh... I've been up all night
[03:08] <gan|y|med> hi
[03:10] <gan|y|med> i wanna use sondkonverter to extract an ac stream of a music video and convert it to ogg vorbis. it seems to recognize the stream, but when i click on start it just does nothing. any ideas?
[03:10] <phreakys> hi
[03:11] <beligum> btw, I'm currently working with ubuntuvideo.com, so you can win 100$ for your captorials.com video ;)
[03:12] <beligum> John asked me to spread the word
[03:13] <grothesk|afk> D4m4ge: w32codecs
[03:13] <Jucato> hehehe
[03:14] <gan|y|med> okay, any ideas what program i could use to extract the audio stream from a video file?
[03:15] <Hawkwind> gan|y|med: audacity or avidemux possibly ?
[03:15] <gan|y|med> thx
[03:17] <linux_galore> one question, does kubuntu have a unstable download page
[03:17] <Jucato> linux_galore: if you could wait for a few more minutes or hours, Edgy Eft Knot 2 will be released
[03:19] <linux_galore> Jucato: aaah I'll wait
[03:24] <linux_galore> Im thinking of doing a talk on KDE, Ive been using it since the 1.* days
[03:25] <gan|y|med>  ok, sth. strange is going on here. i use soundkonverter: i choose ogg and get an ac3 file. i choose flac and get an ogg vorbis file. why that???
[03:25] <reeed> hello folks
[03:25] <Jucato> linux_galore: since KDE 1? wow!
[03:25] <reeed> how do I make X start without "-notcp" ?
[03:25] <linux_galore> Jucato: yeah it was total crap too lol
[03:26] <Jucato> yeah, I've heard
[03:26] <ryanakca> beligum: for edgy
[03:27] <beligum> ah, I see
[03:27] <beligum> yeah, sure, go ahead
[03:27] <reeed> how do I make X start without "-notcp" ? or, how do I let remote clients connect to my X server ?
[03:28] <beligum> you want to check out SVN trunk though
[03:30] <linux_galore> reeed: I just ssh into the machine and run the X app
[03:31] <reeed> linux_galore: but my local X server runs with ''notcp' and blocks the connection
[03:31] <reeed> :-(
[03:31] <reeed> i can't figure out a way to remove that option.
[03:31] <linux_galore> reeed: Im often on the move around the place and I login to my central machine and just run the email client
[03:31] <reeed> so I thought maybe there is a potentially safer way to let remote clients connect
[03:32] <kutan> Can someone tell me why the sound for videos on www.youtube.com doesn't work?
[03:32] <kutan> I'm sure it's only me =\
[03:33] <soulrider> its you
[03:33] <soulrider> but flash has some problems on linux
[03:33] <Jucato> ouch... that answer must have hurt...
[03:33] <soulrider> so even if you manage to playt he sounds
[03:33] <Jucato> but yea.. it's a Flash on Linux issue...
[03:33] <soulrider> iots most likely it wont be in synch with the video :(
[03:33] <kutan> >_<
[03:33] <xwolf-> yeap
[03:34] <soulrider> Adobe doesnt like us :(
[03:34] <xwolf-> out of synch happens
[03:34] <Jucato> soulrider: true... they're gonna delay (or probably cancel...) Flash 9 for Linux Alpha
[03:34] <linux_galore> reeed: look in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[03:34] <soulrider> :/
[03:34] <soulrider> damn
[03:34] <insanekane> Jucato: how do you know >
[03:34] <insanekane> ?
[03:34] <xwolf-> what does -rc stand for?
[03:35] <soulrider> Jucato: do you work or something? because youre ALLWAYS here! :P
[03:35] <xwolf-> kdmrc, xserverrc..
[03:35] <Jucato> i don't know about the "r" but the "c" probably stands for config
[03:35] <linux_galore> <--- has flash 9
[03:35] <Jucato> linux_galore: natively? on Linux?
[03:36] <linux_galore> Jucato: using wine for a few weeks now, works fine
[03:36] <soulrider> using wine probably
[03:36] <Jucato> lol
[03:36] <soulrider> :)
[03:36] <soulrider> write a tut on how to get it running
[03:36] <Jucato> I think I said Flash 9 "for Linux"
[03:36] <soulrider> no, you didnt: P
[03:36] <soulrider> [10:35]  <linux_galore> <--- has flash 9
[03:36] <soulrider> :P
[03:36] <linux_galore> only hard part was trying to stop the macromedia download server redirecting me to the flash 7 linux installer
[03:36] <kutan> So I just need to install flash with WINE? instead of the linux version?
[03:36] <Jucato> soulrider: "I" said it..
[03:37] <Jucato> http://www.webpronews.com/expertarticles/expertarticles/wpn-62-20060831NoFlash9AlphaForLinux.html
[03:37] <soulrider> i et so confused on irc sometimes :P
[03:37] <Jucato> I stand corrected. they're just not going to show us Alpha... but straight to Beta...
[03:37] <Jucato> whenever that is...
[03:38] <linux_galore> kutan: well there are two ways, easy way is grab codeweavers crossover of bittorent or install it with wine and winetools
[03:38] <kutan> ...buh
[03:38] <linux_galore> codeweavers will download and install flash 9 for you
[03:38] <Jucato> I've heard that installing Firefox for XP on wine and installing Flash through Firefox works?
[03:39] <linux_galore> Jucato: I didnt install IE
[03:39] <Jucato> linux_galore: I think I said "Firefox"
[03:39] <Jucato> and I'm actually trying to confirm if that "solution" also works...
[03:39] <linux_galore> Jucato: yes but I didnt have to use IE to get the installer
[03:40] <Jucato> I used Konqueror to download the Firefox installer for XP...
[03:40] <kutan> "Download CrossOver Office Standard Trial for Linux"?
[03:40] <Jucato> then used Wine to install Firefox...
[03:40] <linux_galore> kutan: no the pro version
[03:41] <linux_galore> kutan: http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=codeweavers
[03:41] <kutan> Ah, I was about to say "I have to buy it"
[03:41] <Jucato> lol...
[03:41] <kutan> But just so everyone knows
[03:42] <kutan> I'm not going to illegally download this product
[03:42] <Jucato> yes, the "real" thing is not free
[03:42] <linux_galore> the shock version has all the variations for every distro
[03:43] <kutan> Could it be just me or does it say on the site that the torrent has no seeders? =\
[03:44] <linux_galore> kutan: this one is still active http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3461187/Codeweavers.CrossOver.Office.Professional.v5.0.1-SHOCK
[03:44] <kutan> The Pirate Bay Kicks ass
[03:45] <kutan> But it seems the mininova one was lying on the website, there are actually 3 seeders
[03:45] <linux_galore> kutan: 14 on the pirate bay one
[03:46] <kutan> oooh
[03:54] <recon0> I'm trying to install 6.06 LTS on a i386, but the install CD gets to the point where there is a splash screen and reads "Making LiveCD user", then the splash disappears, and the text "Uncompressing linux...OK, booting the kernel" appears. After that, it just seems to freeze.
[03:55] <Diuneimama> need help in qtparted
[03:55] <Diuneimama> anyone there?
[04:06] <tictric> I just can't get the system to print to a printer connected to a windows system. My various experiments with the printer wizard to set up a remote windows printer fail.
[04:07] <tictric> What's the secret?
[04:07] <raul> how to regain kdm after adding gnome in kubuntu ?ive lost it after installing ubuntu-desktop through apt cdrom add
[04:08] <Jucato> !pastebin > Jucato
[04:12] <Jucato> I wonder if one day they will make "middle-click = close tab" a default in Kubuntu...
[04:14] <Pawba> Hardware acceleration isn't working under ubuntu for me.  I've installed the latest ATI drivers (from ATI), and mesa3d.  Chromium, etc, still runs terribly.  Ideas?
[04:15] <skavenge> is 1.4.2 amarok stable? any problems for anyone?
[04:16] <linux_galore> skavenge: works fine
[04:16] <Jucato> works fine here too
[04:16] <skavenge> cool thnx guys
[04:16] <linux_galore> Pawba: did you edit the xorg.conf file
[04:18] <Pawba> linux_galore: The ATI install tool did that.
[04:19] <kutan> oy
[04:19] <kutan> 37 minutes left for crossover
[04:20] <linux_galore> Pawba: did you check
[04:20] <Pawba> I will now. :)
[04:21] <Pawba> All the sections have fglrx listed.
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> You will need to blacklist the fglrx from the restricted modules - and probably build the kernel module with module assistant (the module will not be for the dapper security updated kernel)
[04:26] <Pawba> er
[04:26] <Pawba> I got fglrx from ati, and the kernel already has module assist.
[04:27] <Pawba> The ATI drivers are working (cos my tv outs and dual head work)
[04:28] <Pawba> But what is the mesa indirect ?
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> means the kernel module is not working
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> just my IRC client to konversation ver 1.0
[04:37] <Jucato> ??
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> just updated my IRC client to konversation ver 1.0
[04:37] <Jucato> aaah
[04:37] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:38] <Pawba> hm
[04:38] <ZeroTreta> alguem que fale portugues ai pra mim ajudar
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> works pretty well
[04:40] <Pawba> Next silly question...  Amarok/Movie Player report that they don't have the codec to play generally anything.  Where do you find the codecs for the players in the repositories?
[04:41] <kutan> Anyone know about javascript injections?
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> Amarok isnt a movie player
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> for starters
[04:41] <skavenge> Pawba: under restricted formats on the wiki see:
[04:41] <kutan> I used it to watch a movie.
[04:41] <skavenge> !restrictedformats
[04:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> use kaffeine for movies
[04:41] <kutan> Oh wait
[04:41] <kutan> nevermind
[04:42] <kutan> yeah
[04:42] <kutan> got them mixed up
[04:42] <Pawba> Linux_Galore: I meant Amarok/Movie Player as in two different programs.  :P
[04:43] <kutan> and omfg Linux_Galore, I got to 99.57% and it stalled.
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> Pawba: add the server to your repo list and then just use the package manager to install the missing codecs
[04:43] <Chuck> by jumping to tracks in AMAROK it gives me errorcode: 127 /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory, but this directory exists, whats wrong?
[04:43] <Pawba> What server?
[04:44] <skavenge> universe/multiverse
[04:45] <Pawba> hm..  I thought the days of rebuilding a kernel were gone.  yay
[04:45] <Jucato> !ntfs > Jucato
[04:46] <Chuck> by jumping to tracks in AMAROK it gives me errorcode: 127 /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory, but this directory exists, whats wrong?
[04:47] <Chuck> An Amarok Script needs ruby1.8, so I installed, but there no changes.
[04:47] <skavenge> is it in your path?
[04:47] <Chuck> what do you meen?
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> Pawba: heres a link that helps you knows what to put in the /etc/apt/sources.list  file http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:55] <Linux_Galore> lots of howto's too on adding sources for extra media formats http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/multimedia/
[04:57] <Linux_Galore> Im off to bed
[04:57] <Jucato> bye! good night!
[04:57] <Linux_Galore> bye folks
[05:08] <larson9999> linux_galore?  now that's a great stripper name
[05:08] <BTR> Hey, i'am not able to read my NTFS drive, from within kubuntu, why is that?
[05:09] <k31th> hum... i need a bit of software to recive fax's on a modem and dump then to some sort of file? any recomends ?
[05:11] <BTR> also my network device doesnt recieve any ip, although i have tried to set the gateway, to the gateway used on this windows machine
[05:13] <Chuck> do you tryed to get on your ntfs drive as root?
[05:14] <BTR> Chuck: think so, im new to linux
[05:15] <Chuck> try sudo konqueror in the konsole
[05:15] <Jucato> !ntfs
[05:16] <Chuck> I thin kyou only can mount and write on ntfs as root.
[05:16] <Jucato> actually, no writing to ntfs
[05:16] <Jucato> it's not recommended..
[05:16] <Jucato> darn ubotu...
[05:16] <Jucato> !ntfs
[05:16] <BTR> how do i login as root, in case i wasnt
[05:16] <Chuck> even as root?
[05:16] <Jucato> yes, even as root
[05:17] <Chuck> its not avaliable on ubuntu
[05:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:17] <Chuck> but if you want, browse some wikis.
[05:17] <Chuck> make it easy.
[05:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:17] <Jucato> rawr! ubotu's lagging
[05:17] <Chuck> change your /etc/fstab
[05:18] <BTR> i will try, will be back later..  thanks!
[05:33] <BTR> doesnt work:s
[05:34] <andi_> :(
[05:34] <BTR> i just cant seem to get my network-device to work:|
[05:34] <Chuck> Mh...
[05:35] <Chuck> what is the name of the Partition? hda...?
[05:35] <BTR> hdv
[05:35] <BTR> hdv2
[05:35] <BTR> i got it mountet i think, but couldnt enable it
[05:36] <Chuck> Whats the Message?
[05:38] <BTR> Something with it not being able to figure out what type it was, i think:|
[05:39] <dendo> help install f prot antivirus
[05:40] <BTR> If i just could go online from within kubuntu icould post the excact message
[05:41] <dendo> how
[05:41] <ricky_ds> Hi, yesterday, an update brought libvisual for amarok on my computer, however, I still cannot use visual plugins with amarok, does anyone know what to do in order to make it work?
[05:41] <Chuck> U cant get online???
[05:41] <dendo> yes
[05:41] <BTR> Chuck: no, my network device wont find the ip address
[05:42] <Chuck> Do you got dhcp enabled?
[05:42] <BTR> yes
[05:42] <Chuck> try a static IP
[05:43] <Chuck> Do you go online over a router?
[05:43] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: You around ?
[05:43] <BTR> but that wouldnthelp? as i have my ip picked from my ISP with their DHCP
[05:43] <BTR> Chuck: no, theres nothing between me and my isp
[05:43] <Chuck> mh.
[05:44] <Chuck> I dont have any experience with those types.
[05:44] <Chuck> ask around.
[05:44] <BTR> i will:) thanks anyway Chuck:)
[05:49] <E-Jey> Hi
[05:49] <ricky_ds> Hi, yesterday, an kubuntu online update brought libvisual for amarok on my computer, however, I still cannot use visual plugins with amarok, does anyone know what to do in order to make it work?
[05:49] <E-Jey> where can I find this window decoration: http://www.polinux.upv.es/mozilla/imagenes/capturas/mozilla-firefox-konqueror.png
[05:50] <Hawkwind> E-Jey: On kde-look.org maybe ?
[05:52] <misieq> i have .tar.gz source for some app, how do i create .deb package from it.
[05:52] <misieq> E-Jey: use gtk-qt engine
[05:52] <Hawkwind> misieq: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[05:53] <Hawkwind> misieq: There is a how-to I have followed
[05:53] <misieq> thanks :) as i can't install metabar from repo :( and the mentioned one is a bit old, there is new version :)
[05:55] <Jucato> E-Jey: that's the Plastik window decoration
[05:59] <E-Jey> Jucato, I've select the plastik decorator but it looks different :?
[05:59] <Jucato> E-Jey: ok hold on...
[05:59] <Jucato> I'm going to check again
[06:01] <Jucato> E-Jey: it is Plastik. but the color scheme and some of the buttons are different from the defaults in Kubuntu
[06:01] <misieq> !dh_make
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dh_make - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <misieq> what package contains dh_make?
[06:02] <E-Jey> hmm oke, thanks. Does anyone know where I can find that color sheme?
[06:02] <Hobbsee> misieq: dh-make
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Yes (for a bit yes)
[06:04] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: http://seerofsouls.com/dists/dapper/e17/source/
[06:04] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Is that what you needed ?
[06:06] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: It is yes - e17 has been alot more broken recently (I think I will build it for edgy later)
[06:06] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Things have settled in CVS land as of yesterday.  Most everything is back to normal.  Few modules don't work and engage is still broken
[06:07] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: We are hoping to get an update either tonight/tomorrow of the entire thing :)
[06:07] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: evas was broken last time I tried which borked loads of stuff
[06:07] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Yeah.  It's working now.  I just updated about 20 minutes ago
[06:12] <xwolf-> i'm getting this after running a configure file:
[06:13] <xwolf-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22251
[06:13] <xwolf-> but i have just installed gcc-4.0
[06:14] <h3sp4wn> xwolf-: install build-essential
[06:14] <skavenge> you need  the build-essential package
[06:14] <xwolf-> right, lemme check.
[06:22] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Have you any idea what is happening with ebuntu - is the person responsible actually doing anything about it ? (the channel always seems to be empty)
[06:23] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Nope.  I emailed the guy that is listed on the wiki/site and I never got a response
[06:23] <olivier> hi all
[06:23] <olivier_> astalavista
[06:24] <olivier_> beyby
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: So did I (no response either) so it looks like its a dead project
[06:25] <olivier_> je suis francai
[06:25] <olivier_> ki est francais 
[06:25] <DaSkreech> !fr
[06:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:25] <DaSkreech> I mailed him as well
[06:25] <olivier_> je sui nouvo sur linux
[06:25] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Yeah I was hoping to see that take off.  But I'm working on a distro that is based on Kubuntu that will have an E17 version of the OS :)
[06:27] <skavenge> wouldnt you need a stable release of e17 fir that Hawkwind ?
[06:28] <Hawkwind> skavenge: E17 is pretty darn stable at times if you build it correctly.  Look at Elive in fact
[06:28] <trappist> Hawkwind: you gonna ship duke nukem forever with e17? ;)
[06:28] <Hawkwind> trappist: Hah.  Good ole Duke Nukem
[06:28] <skavenge> Hawkwind: well i havent installed any snapshots, just from cvs and i know from experience one change can render something useless till they fix it
[06:29] <trappist> (the joke is that duke nukem forever, like e17, has pretty much been vaporware for years and years)
[06:30] <Hawkwind> skavenge: Correct.  But we don't build packages when we know things are broken.  Look at http://SeerOfSouls.com/ubuntu.html for example.  Everything should work at all times when we update the packages
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> There is a kanotix derivative with e17 as window manager
[06:33] <skavenge> Hawkwind: i see, that would make sense. how often are you planning to update? Just asking as you probably know as well as I the guys in #e are adding\working on the cvs almost daily
[06:34] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: I have been using it with almost no problems for 2/3 months now
[06:34] <Hawkwind> skavenge: I happen to have dev access so I know when to and not to update things.  We are hoping to have an update about once a week or so.  That depends on the breakage in CVS of course
[06:34] <skavenge> Hawkwind: the dev access certainly helps. sounds very cool.
[06:34] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Are you writing applications with the e libraries ?
[06:34] <Hawkwind> skavenge: I've been using E17 for well over a year now and really have no major issues until major API changes are made
[06:35] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: No
[06:36] <skavenge> I've used it about three months myself, ive seen some small issues but nothing major
[06:36] <skavenge> modules keeping up to date with e seems to be a hurdle i see though
[06:37] <Hawkwind> skavenge: I've seen major/drastic changes to it since I started using it.  It's nearly a complete different wm from when I first started using it
[06:37] <arkygeek> hi guys
[06:37] <arkygeek> how do i fire up X from tty1?
[06:37] <Hawkwind> skavenge: One of my good friends is the one who maintains about 95% of all the e_modules :)
[06:38] <Hawkwind> arkygeek: startx
[06:38] <skavenge> arkygeek: startx
[06:38] <arkygeek> thx
[06:38] <skavenge> Hawkwind: devilhorns?
[06:38] <Hawkwind> skavenge: Yeppers
[06:40] <|lostbyte|> How do i clear disk cache ?
[06:40] <|lostbyte|> Any idea ?
[06:40] <skavenge> i really wish evolume was still supported, i was interested once i saw the evolume themes on get-e.org only to find out its not being updated anymore ;/ i end up using alsamixer in terminal to manage sound
[06:41] <|lostbyte|> Disk cache : Allocated memory for processes. But i want to clear it as it stays there even at program termination.
[06:41] <killermach> in Gimp -> <IMAGE> -> Script-Fu -> Alpha to Logo, everything is grayed out.. what am I missing?
[06:42] <|lostbyte|> killermach, did you try asking at #gimp
[06:44] <killermach> |lostbyte|: I would but I have only had this issue in kubuntu, it has not happened on my main workstation and I have installed kubuntu/gimp on 2 different machines recently with the same issue
[06:45] <arkygeek> Jucato: hi.  hey, any suggestions for getting direct rendering working with an intel i-915 ?
[06:45] <killermach> |lostbyte|: asking in #gimp now
[06:45] <Jucato> arkygeek: sorry, nope...
[06:46] <skavenge> my 915 had it from default on install
[06:48] <|lostbyte|> How to cccccccccccclear disk cache ?
[06:48] <|lostbyte|> Argh.. Sorry.
[06:48] <Jucato> |lostbyte|: disk cache? Konqueror's or Firefox's?
[06:48] <ketsugi> Is there any reason why kde-i18n-zhcn package has not been updated to 3.5.4?
[06:50] <skavenge> uh no your not
[06:50] <skavenge> woosp
[06:53] <|lostbyte|> kde'
[06:53] <zblach> hey, um, can anyone tell me about easycam?
[06:54] <DaSkreech>  !webcam
[06:54] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:55] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, My kde's !
[06:55] <DaSkreech> I was using Red Hat Yesterday
[06:56] <Jonty> Does anyone know where I can get xine 1.*.* .debs?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> Red hat 2
[06:57] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, Like when i start with kde i have 360 MB free memory. then later after running some apps, i Get to like 60 MB free. Even after closing the programs i still have 60 MB free. Only if i restart x, i get my total 360 MB free back..
[06:57] <skavenge> thats how linux works
[06:57] <Jucato> yep... that's how Linux manages memory
[06:57] <skavenge> free memory is wasted memory, it loads everything it can so next time you run something it starts even faster
[06:57] <Jucato> nothing wrong with it
[06:58] <|lostbyte|> Point is, why does my kde slow down when its reaches to minimum free memory..
[06:58] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, Other wise its fast and very responsive.
[06:58] <skavenge> possibly not enough virtual memory set
[06:59] <Jucato> virtual memory = swap
[06:59] <|lostbyte|> Like, i can see the window move in slow motion, when minimizing to panel.
[06:59] <Jucato> |lostbyte|:  Linux automatically frees up some memory from Disk Cache if a program needs the resource
[06:59] <|lostbyte|> skavenge, I have around 500 MB swap..
[07:00] <Jucato> how much RAM do you have?
[07:00] <skavenge> and how much physical ram?
[07:00] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, But it does it very slowly.. when in less free Memory
[07:00] <|lostbyte|> skavenge, 512 MB
[07:00] <skavenge> well thats the general rule, same as amount of ram, so that should be okay
[07:01] <skavenge> are you running xgl or translucency on the window or anything?
[07:01] <Jucato> it's possible that there are problems with the programs or a memory leak of some sort.
[07:01] <|lostbyte|> skavenge, I read online, About disk cache, and i was wandering if i could clear it.. and see if it helps.
[07:02] <skavenge> im unsure how to clear that myself, if that is a solution
[07:02] <|lostbyte|> skavenge, MEmeory leak is a hardware problem ?
[07:02] <skavenge> a program usually
[07:03] <|lostbyte|> skavenge, ok
[07:04] <EvilIdler> Has anyone here managed to get a D-Link DGE-528T working with kernel 2.6.15?
[07:04] <Xcalibur> well, I reinstalled kubuntu as told by a professional
[07:05] <Xcalibur> and i can now install my ndiswrapper drivers
[07:05] <Xcalibur> as for the dlink prob
[07:05] <Xcalibur> i use everything linksys
[07:05] <Xcalibur> !wifi
[07:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:06] <EvilIdler> Was that link directed at me?
[07:06] <ketsugi> Is there any reason why kde-i18n-zhcn package has not been updated to 3.5.4?
[07:17] <killermach> K -> Add/Remove Programs, select Any Suite, unsupported, and proprietary software, my Science category is empty, what am I missing?
[07:18] <Jucato> killermach: I think Add/Remove Programs a.k.a. Adept Installer, is missing a few packages...
[07:18] <Jucato> I couldn't find KDissert either...
[07:21] <killermach> Jucato: I thnk so to..  I have installed synaptic a few minutes ago also, but did not find "check all" to get a complete list without multiple clicks on each item
[07:22] <Jucato> check all?
[07:22] <weedar> I'm having trouble finding out where I specify how big the viewport is...My resolution is 1024x768 but I can only see part of my desktop
[07:24] <Paulorific> Hey
[07:25] <Paulorific> quick question
[07:25] <Paulorific> Is ndiswrapper already on kubuntu dapper?
[07:25] <Paulorific> on an installation
[07:25] <Paulorific> um
[07:25] <zblach> Paulorific: not by default
[07:25] <Paulorific> ok
[07:25] <Paulorific> so
[07:25] <skavenge> no, under ndiswrapper-utils is on the cd though
[07:25] <skavenge> which includes it
[07:25] <Paulorific> ok
[07:26] <Paulorific> great
[07:26] <Paulorific> thanks
[07:26] <Paulorific> so it'll be on the dvd i burned
[07:26] <skavenge> should be, search for ndiswrapper-utils through adept or sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils should install it right off the cd
[07:27] <Dismal> Stupid question: I just installed kubuntu (first time playing with linux in years)   So I'm trying to install stuff but i dont know my root password (i dont recall ever setting one...)
[07:27] <Paulorific> you have to set one
[07:27] <fdoving> !root
[07:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:27] <skavenge> Dismal: its asking for your user password when you use sudo for example, there is no root password set by default for security purposes
[07:27] <fdoving> Dismal: take a look at that url.
[07:27] <Dismal> thanks
[07:27] <pierreth> hello, i am unable to open word document with openoffice, am i alone?
[07:28] <zblach> pierreth: the problem is usually the reverse
[07:28] <forsaken1125> anyone here im a linux newb, lol, and have alot of questions
[07:28] <skavenge> just ask
[07:28] <pierreth> zblach: if i open a word document, oo thinks it is in ASCII
[07:29] <zblach> hrm
[07:29] <forsaken1125> i have an old hp netserver lh2 with kubuntu on it, and im tryin to get my other 2 nics workin
[07:29] <zblach> try opening ooword, and then importing?
[07:29] <forsaken1125> and i cant get my scsi drvs to mount
[07:30] <pierreth> zblach: importing how?
[07:30] <forsaken1125> noop
[07:30] <forsaken1125> oops sorry
[07:30] <ocjeunesse> salut je cherche kubuntu.fr
[07:31] <forsaken1125> i want to use this machine as a gateway since my hub/router is dead
[07:31] <zblach> pierreth: file -> open
[07:32] <forsaken1125> no one?
[07:34] <pierreth> zblach: ok, the document i was thinking that was Word was not
[07:34] <pierreth> zblach: so i have no problem
[07:34] <Xcalibur> !sifi
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sifi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <Xcalibur> !wifi
[07:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:35] <zblach> pierreth: had the same problem once
[07:35] <pierreth> zblach: my files come from the mac so the file extension is not always there
[07:35] <ubuntu> hi
[07:36] <ubuntu> how are you everybody?
[07:36] <forsaken1125> hello
[07:37] <ubuntu> who is between 13 and 17 yo?
[07:37] <skavenge> this isnt AOL
[07:38] <forsaken1125> anyone here up to par with networking or drive mounting?
[07:38] <fdoving> ubuntu:  go to #kubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat.
[07:40] <trappist> forsaken1125: you might have better luck just asking your question.  I for one won't identifiy myself as the guy who can help you without knowing what your problem is.
[07:40] <Dismal> is kubunti xfree86 or x.org? (im trying to install ati drivers)
[07:40] <skavenge> xorg
[07:40] <trappist> Dismal: xorg
[07:40] <Dismal> thank you
[07:41] <forsaken1125> how do u get kubuntu to enable multiple nic's?
[07:42] <skavenge> install them and set them up
[07:42] <forsaken1125> it sees the card, but wont let me set them up in admin mode
[07:42] <forsaken1125> *cards
[07:42] <skavenge> is it the proper driver for the nics?
[07:43] <forsaken1125> yes all the card are the same, im usin eth1 to chat with u guys
[07:43] <skavenge> so one works and the rest dont?
[07:44] <skavenge> are you getting an error? you need to be clear as to what exactly is happening as none of us can see whats going on
[07:44] <forsaken1125> prettymuch, my lap is conn to one of the as well, all the lights are on(link/act/10/100)
[07:45] <forsaken1125> im a newb sorry, no error msgs, ill try somethin
[07:46] <pierreth> is it possible to add rtf support to kate?
[07:47] <dhq> i just installed a graphics tool with adept how do i uninstall it
[07:48] <dhq> is there any thing to restore my display  back
[07:48] <dhq> ie by uninstalling the previous upgrade
[07:51] <forsaken1125> skavenge:--->i enabled them, but 2 secs afterward, they switched to disabled
[07:52] <Xcalibur> !seen hawkind
[07:52] <ubotu> I haven't seen hawkind recently
[07:52] <Xcalibur> hawkind, can you give me that link to the X error thing?
[07:53] <Jonty> Does anyone know where I can get xine 1.*.* .debs?
[07:53] <Xcalibur> no, srry
[07:54] <Xcalibur> hawkind!?!?!?!?!?!?!??
[07:54] <Jonty> Anything above v1.0.0. In fact, anything that solves the bug meaning I can't play flacs in Amarok
[07:54] <forsaken1125> skavenge?
[07:55] <dismal> It seems I broke adept.  It's telling me to run apt-setup or apt-get update but those also don't work...
[07:56] <dismal> I was trying to add the "restricted" repository
[07:57] <Hawkwind> !bad device error
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bad device error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <Hawkwind> Hmmmm
[07:58] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[07:58] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: Bookmark http://LinuxForDummies.org/
[07:58] <Xcalibur> thanx
[07:58] <forsaken1125> kk, i gotem enabled with static ip's, now how do i tell the sys to let my laptops traffic pass thru?
[07:58] <Xcalibur> I own you like 4,000, but i don't have a job until i repair the next PC! :-P
[07:59] <dismal> Anyone?  I broke adept by trying to add "restricted" as a repository and now i dont know how to fix it :/
[07:59] <forsaken1125> ???
[07:59] <dhq> i need help how do i install xserver
[08:00] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install xorg
[08:00] <dhq> Hawkwind: thanx will try
[08:00] <forsaken1125> anyone know any server software or routing software i can apt-get?
[08:01] <dhq> Hawkwind: i get  error no file xorg found
[08:02] <Hawkwind> dhq: Sorry, xorg-x11 maybe ?
[08:02] <forsaken1125> how do u edit fstab
[08:02] <Xcalibur> !wifi
[08:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:02] <Hawkwind> forsaken1125: With your favorite editor.  kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab
[08:03] <forsaken1125> ty hawkwind, know anything about networkin?!?!!!>>>>>lol
[08:03] <Hawkwind> forsaken1125: Yeah....my router does it all for me :)
[08:04] <dhq> Hawkwind: couldnt find package xorg-x11
[08:04] <Hawkwind> dhq: apt-cache search <package>
[08:04] <forsaken1125> hawkwind:...lol, mine did till it shorted out,im makin an old bizness serverinto a server/gateway
[08:05] <Hawkwind> dhq: apt-cache search xserver-xorg to be a bit more restrictive on the search
[08:06] <ketsugi> Hm, Lightbox doesn't really work well with Konqueror
[08:07] <forsaken1125> how do u partition/format a drv?
[08:07] <forsaken1125> then get linuxto mount it?
[08:08] <Hawkwind> qtparted is one app that can do it
[08:09] <forsaken1125> is that package with kbuntu?
[08:10] <Hawkwind> forsaken1125: apt-cache search <package>
[08:10] <DaSkreech> dismal: Hello?
[08:10] <dismal> hi?
[08:10] <ubuntu> hi all... may I ask for some help?
[08:11] <dhq> Hawkwind: i restored my xserver thanx
[08:11] <ubuntu> how can I make logitech quickcam work? :(
[08:12] <dhq> Hawkwind: i have a problem with my graphic you see i inservet a new repotosary of opengl and upgraded and now i cant see my mouse and half my screen
[08:12] <Hawkwind> dhq: No problem
[08:12] <now3d> ubuntu: is it not detected?
[08:12] <ubuntu> yes is detected and kopete let me show it... but i cannot send the image to another person
[08:12] <now3d> I changed my browser to Firefox in System Settings,  now when i load Konqueror and put a URL in, it will not load! any ideas how to use Konqueror now?
[08:13] <dhq> Hawkwind: is there any way to undo a previous upgrade
[08:13] <now3d> ubuntu: so what is the problem, an application issue? an incompatiblity with your friend?  please give full info, including all chat software and IM network you are using
[08:14] <now3d> dhq: No un-grade that I know of!
[08:14] <ubuntu> i've used it on ubuntu until now, now i'm in the middle of an installation of kubuntu (still live now9.
[08:14] <ubuntu> so the situation is:
[08:14] <driz> I am reinstalling Kubuntu because i tried to add another hard drive on a box that clearly had no place for another one and i tried to turn it on and nothing. removed the harddrive and bam it works but it wouldn't load the root filesystem.
[08:14] <ubuntu> connected cam
[08:14] <ubuntu> installed gqcam
[08:14] <ubuntu> camorama
[08:14] <dismal> I'm trying to install ati drivers and the guide on the ubuntu documentation website says to add the "restricted" repository - can anyone explain?
[08:14] <ubuntu> scpa5xx
[08:14] <ubuntu> and camorama and gqcam let me see the image
[08:15] <now3d> driz: doubt u need to re-install, check your BIOS and make sure you have the drives configured to boot and in correct connected order as before
[08:15] <ubuntu> then I've tried wit kopete and aMSN to connect to my MSN account
[08:15] <ubuntu> and using kopete i can see my image again
[08:15] <ubuntu> but when sending my webcam image to a connected friend
[08:15] <ubuntu> he only receive "connection in progress" or "waiting for connection".
[08:15] <ubuntu> i think that's it
[08:16] <now3d> ubuntu: so the only problem is that its not getting sent over your network, can you try with another aMSN user? are you behind a firewall? are you blocking the data being sent? is your friend blocking the data with his firewall?
[08:16] <ubuntu> friends are not blocking data, pretty sure. but I probably am behind a firewall or NAT due to my ADSL modem. is it possible?
[08:17] <dhq> how to check the files that were upgraded newly by adept
[08:17] <forsaken1125> cant apt qtparted, any ideas?
[08:19] <KjetilK> anyone know if there are companies that sell OK laptops with kubuntu preinstalled and certified to work with all features
[08:19] <KjetilK> ?
[08:20] <now3d> ubuntu: type ifconfig and check your IP
[08:21] <ubuntu> i saw 10.0.0.13 but through www.mioip.it i saw 151.44.149.66
[08:23] <dimsuz> Hi! While doing dist-upgrade I get the message that 'amarok && amarok-xine' were kept back. What's this? How to install amarok?
[08:24] <now3d> dimsuz: mabye they didnt need updating, or had not been updating in new distro etc
[08:25] <now3d> ubuntu: please run with your PC on an internet IP address, you might need an Ehternet ADSL addapter
[08:25] <ubuntu> now3d: sprry, what do you mean?
[08:25] <dimsuz> now3d: I want to upgrade to amarok 1.4.2 and added corresponging "deb ..." to sources.list. And now it don't want to upgrade :(
[08:26] <now3d> dimsuz: did you do apt-get update?  mabye the packate was not updated, check apt-cache search amarok
[08:26] <DeeTahPanLtah> my mate has kde english,how to make it polish?
[08:26] <dimsuz> now3d: yup. just did update
[08:26] <dhq> now3d: if i uninstall all the packages of xserver how to i reinstall it again
[08:27] <now3d> ubtunu: I think your NAT is the problem, please buy an Ethernet ADSL modem. Then plug your ethernet cable into ADSL modem to get an internet IP address directlyy
[08:27] <dimsuz> now3d: is there a way to find a reason why it was "kept back"?
[08:27] <ubuntu> now3d: i have an ethernet adsl modem... :) maybe I have to check how to turn off NAT, right?
[08:27] <now3d> dhq: Just write down the names, check what is installed using dpkg,  e.g. dpkg -l |grep xorg etc
[08:28] <now3d> dimsuz: perhaps because there was no new version, or some dependency was not fulfilled
[08:28] <now3d> ubuntu: mabye you can try that, but I suspect it will cause your connection not to function at all
[08:28] <ubuntu> i'll check. thank you. otherwise i'll get back here :D
[08:29] <dimsuz> now3d: may it be because amarok is now in dapper-backports and at the same time I added a custom "deb ..." line from other site with amarok packages?
[08:29] <dhq> now3d: i just installed a repotisary from deb http://www.beerorkid/compiz i did the full upgrade and now my display and bouse it destroyed
[08:29] <dhq> mouse
[08:30] <now3d> hdq: please check your xorg.conf, mabye your device name changed for mouse
[08:30] <now3d> dhq: also, why not use the latest official repository, and KDE 3.5.4 ?
[08:30] <now3d> dimsuz: yes, its probably deprecated, so no new update for u to use
[08:31] <misieq> !wine
[08:31] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:31] <zsolt> hello :-)
[08:31] <dimsuz> now3d: what do you mean? I'm using 1.3.9. And 1.4.2 was added in backports today
[08:31] <ubuntu> thank you now3d. now i'll turn off and check without nat
[08:31] <dhq> now3d: well my screen is shifted down ie the 1st 3inches of my screen is disturbed and the starting of my screen starts after that the start bar is not visible it is below the screen
[08:32] <zsolt> I need help with the MSI CB54G wireless PCMCI card
[08:32] <zsolt> have anyone tried that yet on kubuntu ?
[08:32] <dimsuz> now3d: btw, thank you for helping out!
[08:32] <now3d> ubuntu: you're welcome
[08:33] <now3d> dimsuz: mabye it is supported after all! does apt-cache search show version 1.4.2 ?
[08:33] <zsolt> anyone ???
[08:34] <dhq> now3d: any help
[08:34] <dimsuz> now3d: hmm. it doesn't show versions at all. just descriptions.
[08:34] <dimsuz> :)
[08:35] <dimsuz> now3d: and it was kubuntu's rss feed that announced amarok 1.4.2 available in backports
[08:35] <intelikey> well it wont work.
[08:36] <nikoJ> what codename is 6.06.1?
[08:37] <lotusleaf> do point versions receive new codenames?
[08:37] <zsolt> has anyone set up a PCMCI wireless LAN card on kubuntu
[08:37] <DaSkreech> KjetilK: Sounds like a good busines to get into :)
[08:37] <nikoJ> doubt it, but is it dapper, edgy, etc?
[08:37] <intelikey> dap
[08:37] <KjetilK> DaSkreech: yeah, at least someone should start doing it :-)
[08:37] <nikoJ> kk thanks :)
[08:38] <DaSkreech> !wireless
[08:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:38] <zsolt> thanks
[08:38] <KjetilK> but I don't have the time to do a lot of research and tinkering anymore
[08:40] <dhq> how to reset kubuntu to default settings
[08:40] <intelikey> clean out your home dir.
[08:41] <dhq> i installed a xserver component or somthing and my display is all gone
[08:41] <dhq>  well my screen is shifted down ie the 1st 3inches of my screen is disturbed and the starting of my screen starts after that the start bar is not visible it is below the screen
[08:42] <Hawkwind> dhq: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:42] <Hawkwind> dhq: Try that and it will probably fix your issues.  Usually the defaults will work
[08:42] <micmac> Is there some kind of official kubuntu/ubuntu doumentation?
[08:42] <DaSkreech> The Wiki?
[08:43] <micmac> If was more thinking official
[08:43] <intelikey> dhq sounds to me more like you need to find the knobs/buttons on the monitor and adjust it.
[08:43] <micmac> Like the "Ubuntu book" or something :)
[08:43] <misieq> !freenx
[08:43] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[08:43] <mythtv> there are several ubuntu books
[08:43] <micmac> Thanks
[08:44] <dhq> Hawkwind: still the same
[08:44] <mythtv> -
[08:45] <mythtv> beging ubuntu linux is pretty good - isbn: --1-59059-627-7
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Begging for Ubuntu Linux?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> dismal:
[08:45] <lotusleaf> lol
[08:45] <DaSkreech> What was your problem?
[08:45] <dhq> a small little upgrade for my xserver distroyed my display and mouse
[08:45] <dismal> I just broke my gfx, how do I go back to the original config that kubuntu chose during setup?
[08:46] <lotusleaf> does the cover have a homeless penguin wearing a hoola hoop with 3 ping pong balls super glued to it and holding a tin cup?
[08:46] <DaSkreech> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:46] <mythtv> *begining*
[08:46] <mythtv> though you can beg for it as well
[08:46] <mythtv> daft as it's free though
[08:46] <lotusleaf> mythtv: a better ficitional title would be "begging for a one click mythtv install without having to channel the ghost of configuration's past"
[08:47] <dhq>  DaSkreech no use with tha command
[08:47] <micmac> So there's no such thing as an official Kubuntu/Ubuntu book on the web?
[08:47] <DaSkreech> dhq: Eh?
[08:47] <intelikey> !xorg
[08:47] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:48] <intelikey> dhq sounds to me more like you need to find the knobs/buttons on the monitor and adjust it.
[08:48] <DaSkreech> micmac: There is the Help on the Menu. That's official
[08:48] <mythtv> or just mythtv that works with out the need ofr a degree in nucler physics
[08:48] <DaSkreech> dhq: I was talking to dismal
[08:48] <micmac> DaSkreech, you mean the install menu=
[08:48] <micmac> ?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> micmac: No The menu. Alt+F1 -> Help
[08:49] <micmac> Oh :)
[08:49] <dhq> DaSkreech: intelikey how do i uninstall all the componente of xserver and install them again
[08:49] <micmac> Ok, thanks
[08:50] <intelikey> dhq don't uninstall.  it'll take 66% of your junk with it.    just --reinstall   it.
[08:50] <DaSkreech> *winces* that's kind of nasty but if you like you can aptitude remove xserver and I think that it should pull everything graphical
[08:50] <mythtv> micmac - try this http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html
[08:50] <DaSkreech> Then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :-)
[08:50] <grizzly> How different is kubuntu from ubuntu + apt-get install kde
[08:50] <dhq> intelikey: how do i reinstall xserver
[08:50] <lotusleaf> apt-get install crawl
[08:50] <DaSkreech> Cleaner menus?
[08:50] <micmac> mythtv, thx, I'll check it out
[08:51] <lotusleaf> !crawl
[08:51] <ubotu> crawl: Dungeon Crawl, a text-based roguelike game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.0.0beta26-7 (dapper), package size 619 kB, installed size 1512 kB
[08:51] <lotusleaf> woot! it has crawl listed ha ha!
[08:51] <DaSkreech> DiGot kicked?
[08:51] <intelikey> dhq rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf   or move it some place like /home/  and   sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-\*
[08:51] <DaSkreech> dismal: Got kicked?
[08:51] <mythtv> why uninstall xserver?
[08:51] <mythtv> that way maddness lies
[08:52] <DaSkreech> mythtv: Well I know someone who is getting the source code for 7.0
[08:52] <DaSkreech> So they can install it by hand
[08:52] <intelikey> mythtv mmmm uninstall X cause you don't use it anyway ???
[08:52] <intelikey> :)
[08:52] <mythtv> ok fair enough
[08:53] <forsaken1125> ty skavenge, still tryin to figure out how to mount those scsi drv, but ill figure it out
[08:53] <intelikey> hmm just looked at a game. 'wesnoth'  anything simular ?
[08:53] <forsaken1125> ty for ur help earlier, im updating with adept rite now, pray for me
[08:54] <intelikey> or maybe more like   'asc'  in it's nature ?   just looking for sujestions.
[08:57] <leaf_> Could someone tell me about a starting point to create a fork of a Linux distribution? I just want to provide some additional applications that are installed by default and modify the default list of applications to install. I would prefer fork off Kubuntu!
[08:58] <intelikey> leaf_ that's hardly a reason to fork....
[08:58] <leaf_> I do not mean by fork to release a new distribution to the public.
[08:59] <intelikey> leaf_ just write a better installer,  one that will allow users to choose what the initial installation will have.
[09:00] <HBK> hi
[09:01] <mythtv> leaf why not customize a new live cd?
[09:01] <intelikey> if one used a dvd base the installer could easily have like three main choices,   1 default *buntu   2 minimal ubuntut   3 expert installation (which in turn would allow full control of what you installed from the get go)
[09:02] <intelikey> most of us would rather spend an extra 30 minutes choosing what packages we wanted installed than 3 days streightening out the mess that the default installer made.
[09:03] <intelikey> s/most/some/  cause i don't know the numbers.
[09:04] <marco_> problem with webcam: it seems that without NAT my ADSL ethernet modem does not connect... but with NAT on my webcam cannot be shared with friends... anyone can help?
[09:04] <intelikey> and there can be no doubt that "some" of us don't at all agree with the preferances of the developers.
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[09:04] <TheGateKeeper> leaf_: (k)ubuntu seems to me to be a fairly sorted distro, but making something like Arch linux easier to install by providing autodetect for your video card, sound card etc and making the thing easier would be good
[09:05] <skavenge> thats not they're goal, period. If they wanted to make it robust for experienced users im sure they would, that is not the target audience for ubuntu
[09:06] <recon0> Is there any guide to installing flash for kubuntu konkurer? (sic)
[09:06] <intelikey> yeah i'm with TheGateKeeper on that one leaf_ better to improve an existing distro...
[09:06] <marco_> any idea please? :_( i need cam for work... :(
[09:06] <lotusleaf> !flash
[09:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:06] <intelikey> !flash
[09:06] <intelikey> oops
[09:06] <HBK> will 32-bit version work in AMD64 processor? Also is there any speed differece between 32-bit and 64-bit versions or both run the same?
[09:07] <leaf_> TheGateKeeper: Do you have any idea where to start from? I checked LFS, but they are not mentioning how to automate the installation of the distro you make.
[09:07] <intelikey> 32 runst fine on k8 yes.   but for 32bit apps in a 64bit os you need to setup a 32bit chroot'd env
[09:09] <misieq> !nxclient
[09:09] <intelikey> leaf_ look into knoppix techknowledgy
[09:10] <misieq> !nxclient
[09:10] <intelikey> froidian *edgy  i guess.....
[09:10] <intelikey> misieq nick not regestered ?
[09:10] <misieq> registered
[09:10] <DaSkreech> intelikey: What about wesnoth?
[09:10] <TheGateKeeper> leaf_: not sure don't know if this would be any help: http://pages.google.com/preview/za1012001/installingarchlinux?authtoken=bb4457807961564e919c7fa5683d717c611cc852&no-cache=5987074952678971
[09:10] <misieq> and identified ;)
[09:11] <intelikey> DaSkreech know of any other games like it ?
[09:11] <lotusleaf> I like books.google.com, I just found an entire book on demonology
[09:11] <DaSkreech> leaf_: hve you tried reconstructor?
[09:11] <intelikey> looking for something without time limits  and that it not one dimentional
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Hmm I've been playing Globulation for a bit
[09:12] <DaSkreech> !games
[09:12] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:12] <TheGateKeeper> leaf_: what you get with Arch when you install it is a very basic cli system, if you want to make it into a useable desktop there is quite a bit of work involved, they have no autodetect the user is supposed to do ALL the hard work
[09:12] <misieq> i can't get nxclient working... there is no man page, it's not included in default path and when i type ./nxclient in it's dir it just quits only with "Error: Can't open display:"
[09:12] <lotusleaf> DaSkreech: try crawl, it's addicting
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Have you looked at those intelikey?
[09:12] <intelikey> DaSkreech westnorth is one dimentional in that you have no choice in where/what you explore you just follow the story line....    (diminsion not reffering to graphics)
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Sounds like a dungeon crawller
[09:13] <misieq> should i open ssh channel prior to connecting via nx?
[09:13] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Yeah I know. It has a kind of branching story
[09:13] <TheGateKeeper> leaf_: if you want to see my guide to installing arch I can give it to you
[09:13] <DaSkreech>  But it comes with a aeditor so you can make your own if you like :)
[09:13] <randy> Hi
[09:13] <Mehercle> hi
[09:13] <lotusleaf> DaSkreech: it even has an Abyss, Hell, and demons
[09:13] <Mehercle> when i run apt-get it returs : DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.
[09:14] <Mehercle> and Failed to open device
[09:14] <intelikey> DaSkreech yeah  but it's still lacking.
[09:14] <randy> Any of you use Seamonkey on Kubuntu?
[09:14] <intelikey> the editor is way too confining.   map is too small.  if i'm gona build i want unlimited space....
[09:15] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Can you give me an idea of what yo uare lookgin for?
[09:15] <Mehercle> Help.....
[09:15] <DaSkreech> Some other example?
[09:15] <lotusleaf> randy: I use links after 5 days without sleep so the text becomes graphics
[09:16] <DaSkreech> Mehercle: what did you do?
[09:16] <Mehercle> DaSkreech: sudo apt-get install ......
[09:16] <leaf_> TheGateKeeper: Yes, that would be nice.
[09:16] <randy> lotusleaf: that would cause too much pain in my eyes
[09:17] <DaSkreech> Mehercle: anything?
[09:17] <Mehercle> yes
[09:17] <Mehercle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22262
[09:17] <DaSkreech> When did this happen?
[09:17] <Mehercle> is an example
[09:17] <misieq> right.... i've set "export DISPLAY=:0" and now when i start nxclient on the second machine (how the hell does it know where to connect?) i get a xmessage with only "ok" button to hit and nothing happes...
[09:17] <misieq> s/happes/happens/
[09:17] <Mehercle> the text is in dutch, but the errors in English
[09:17] <lotusleaf> Mehercle: isn't that always the case?
[09:18] <Mehercle> yes
[09:18] <Mehercle> DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.
[09:18] <Mehercle> is not normal
[09:18] <TheGateKeeper> leaf_: here you go: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/installingarchlinux   --- off to watch a film, but if you want to talk I will be back latter
[09:18] <misieq> ahhh.... been ssh-ed to the host...
[09:18] <randy> Any of you use Seamonkey on Kubuntu?
[09:18] <TheGateKeeper> leaf_: hope it helps
[09:18] <lotusleaf> randy: why would I want to?
[09:19] <intelikey> DaSkreech not really.... there were some M$ AD&D type games back 10 years ago that had many of the same things wesnoth has but the main map was playable as well, that is to say you went anywhere not just one way.  and no time limits,    is there something that has the look&feel of wesnoth ?    also there was an nes game 'conflict' that resembles 'asc' but seemed like a much better approach.
[09:19] <misieq> got it working, never mind ;)
[09:19] <randy> lotusleaf: is that a serious question?
[09:19] <lotusleaf> randy: not really :P
[09:19] <intelikey> my complaint is this,  the linux games seem to have a lot more detail in some areas, at the expense of the other areas.   not well balanced.
[09:19] <lotusleaf> randy: why, did you find a problem with it?
[09:20] <DaSkreech> randy: Sup?
[09:20] <lotusleaf> randy: the browser I mean
[09:20] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Time to hit Happypenguin? :-)
[09:20] <intelikey> DaSkreech ill scrool up now and give a look at the links you posted.
[09:20] <randy> It fails to start on Kubuntu
[09:21] <lotusleaf> intelikey: a FOSS replacement to DirectX in the industry is sorely needed
[09:21] <Mehercle> DaSkreech: no idea?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> Still looking
[09:21] <lotusleaf> randy: have you checked the ubuntuforums?
[09:21] <randy> lotusleaf: I want to run Seamonkey on Kubuntu, but it fails upon start
[09:21] <intelikey> lotusleaf yeah but the games i had in mind predate DX
[09:21] <lotusleaf> randy: I remember someone posting about it on there recently
[09:21] <lotusleaf> intelikey: :)
[09:22] <randy> lotusleaf: I've been bangin on this for quite some time in forums, irc's on all the communities I can think of
[09:22] <DaSkreech> randy: I think the first time you run it you have to do it with sudo
[09:22] <lotusleaf> randy: the mozilla forums ?
[09:22] <intelikey> you know, back in the day when we used our imagenations rather than 3d accel. and dri   :)
[09:23] <lotusleaf> intelikey: have you tried crawl? :)
[09:23] <DaSkreech> intelikey: I'm trying to picture this imagenation thing. Do You have a screenshot?
[09:23] <lotusleaf> randy: if you haven't tried the Mozilla forums, give it a shot, there's a lot of people there
[09:23] <intelikey> lotusleaf no.  is it graphic or text ?
[09:23] <lotusleaf> intelikey: text
[09:23] <intelikey> DaSkreech lol
[09:23] <randy> lotusleaf: I want to run Seamonkey on Kubuntu, but it fails upon start
[09:24] <lotusleaf> intelikey: also try nethack
[09:24] <lotusleaf> randy: this is what you've said, have you tried posting about this on the official Mozilla forums?
[09:24] <intelikey> lotusleaf i've written a text based rpg   that's more imagenation than i want....  :)
[09:24] <DaSkreech> randy: did you try run it with sudo? the first time it runs it needs to be root
[09:24] <randy> DaSkreech: yeah but it still fails
[09:25] <DaSkreech> randy: Ok
[09:25] <randy> DaSkreech: do you work for Kubuntu?
[09:25] <DaSkreech> No :-)
[09:26] <DaSkreech> If you like you can ask on the Seamonkey chan on IRC
[09:26] <lotusleaf> randy: http://forums.mozillazine.org/
[09:26] <lotusleaf> randy: there's a seamonkey forum area there
[09:27] <randy> DaSkreech: been there, as I indicated, I've been to all the forums and irc's from all the relevant communities
[09:27] <DaSkreech> Is there an error?
[09:27] <lotusleaf> randy: can you direct me to your posts on that forum then?
[09:27] <lotusleaf> randy: so I know you tried posting there? :)
[09:28] <randy> lotusleaf: accusing me?
[09:29] <DaSkreech> randy: No but it's helpful to see waht you have tried
[09:29] <philipp_> hi, my gdesklets program doesn't start. I've reinstalled it, but this didn't work. Can somebody help me plz?
[09:29] <intelikey> lotusleaf have you played wesnoth ?    that's the basic design/format that i like.  (if/when i play a game)  if you know of other veriants of that ?
[09:29] <lotusleaf> randy: verification
[09:29] <DaSkreech> Rather than you just telling us no you did that all over again
[09:29] <Mehercle> DaSkreech : still nothing?
[09:29] <lotusleaf> randy: I spent the time to give you a link, let's see your posts ;)
[09:29] <lotusleaf> intelikey: check the icculus game list, also happypenguin
[09:30] <intelikey> icculus  got it.  ty.
[09:30] <lotusleaf> intelikey: http://lotusleafslinks.tuxfamily.org/linux.html <-- see games/emulation
[09:30] <lotusleaf> intelikey: yw
[09:30] <DaSkreech> Mehercle: This doesn't ring any bells. this stops you from installing anythign?
[09:30] <Mehercle> no
[09:31] <randy> lotusleaf: I started trying to use Seamonkey 2-3 months ago, I've spent all the spare time I can on it which amounts to about 20-30 hours over 8 weeks, I'm too burnt to go find my posts to those forums, thanks anyway
[09:31] <DaSkreech> Mehercle: So it's more annoying than anything?
[09:31] <lotusleaf> randy: ok, I'll do it for you, tell me what username you posted there under. :)
[09:31] <philipp_> can smbdy help me plz ?
[09:32] <Mehercle> DaSkreech: command sudo apt-get -qq install ......
[09:32] <Mehercle> gives me errors
[09:32] <DaSkreech> philipp_: gdesklets or karamba?
[09:32] <Mehercle> and my scripts are using it
[09:32] <philipp_> DaSkreech: gdesklets
[09:32] <misieq> how do i attach my bluetooth device to /dev/rfcommX ?
[09:33] <tuxar> philipp_, try removing .gdesklets in your home directory
[09:33] <tuxar> philipp_, and you reset all your sttings
[09:33] <misieq> !bluetooth
[09:33] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:34] <randy> lotusleaf: ok, give me a few minutes and I'll give you a list of all the forums and ircs I've been on regarding this
[09:34] <lotusleaf> randy: I was just asking for that forum :)
[09:34] <lotusleaf> randy: I'm interested in the responses your posts received
[09:35] <DaSkreech> philipp_: If you are the conservative type you can rename it
[09:35] <Mehercle> DaSkreech: you understand me?
[09:35] <Mehercle> someone told me about a pointer or something
[09:35] <DaSkreech> Mehercle: You have a set of scripts that you want to run quietly and  the eerror still comes up
[09:35] <philipp_> tuxar: I've tried rmdir in the terminal with the  --ignore-fail-on-non-empty option with root rights, but the folder is still there :(
[09:35] <misieq> how do i attach my bluetooth device to /dev/rfcommX ?
[09:36] <Mehercle> DaSkreech: yes
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Mehercle: Have you asked in #ubuntu-devel ?
[09:36] <Mehercle> adn i hate errors :-p
[09:36] <Mehercle> no
[09:36] <tuxar> philipp_, but you installed in root mode ?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Mehercle: Ahh QT error :)
[09:36] <tuxar> philipp_, try using sudo rm -Rf .gdesklets
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Mehercle: try #kubuntu-devel
[09:37] <Mehercle> ok
[09:37] <DaSkreech> tuxar: :-P
[09:37] <DaSkreech> tuxar: Just let him rename it
[09:37] <DaSkreech> Assuming that philipp_ is a him :)
[09:37] <tuxar> DaSkreech, yeah ! youe right
[09:38] <tuxar> philipp_, My method is too risky, try renaming .gdesklets,DaSkreech is right
[09:44] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:44] <tuxar> did someone compiled Konversation 1.0 beta ?
[09:44] <tuxar> slow-motion, hello
[09:45] <slow-motion> hi tuxar
[09:45] <philipp_> tuxar: it's working again thanks^^
[09:46] <tuxar> philipp_, welcome, next time take DaSKreech advice, rename it all right ?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> !konversation
[09:46] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4835 kB, installed size 11136 kB
[09:46] <philipp_> tuxar: I have renaimed it ;)
[09:46] <DaSkreech> tuxar: It's in edgy I think
[09:47] <tuxar> DaSkreech, wow, here we've got a beta tester !!! Good for you !
[09:48] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: Ping
[09:51] <stewraz> can i ask a question please
[09:52] <stewraz> i have used adept to install "beneth a steel bsky" but i cannt seem to find it anywhere
[09:52] <stewraz> i cannot locate it to run through scumm
[09:52] <stewraz> stupid question i know
[09:53] <insanekane> stewraz: you can look at the package details to see where the files are
[09:54] <GeneralZod> stewraz:dpkg --listfiles beneath-a-steel-sky
[09:54] <we6jbo_> Guys, I did it
[09:54] <pielgrzym> anyone could tell me how to change icons representing folders? I'm using Crystal Vista XT theme in KDE and I would like to change folder colors - I tried exchanging proper folder.png icon, but it was 'recreated' in old color :(
[09:55] <stewraz> general: sorry im too bloody new to the linux OS
[09:55] <DaSkreech> !ask
[09:55] <stewraz> general: what do i do with what u wrote
[09:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:56] <GeneralZod> stewraz:Ah, sorry.  Do you know how to bring up the Konsole terminal?
[09:56] <stewraz> yep sorry i got it now
[09:56] <GeneralZod> stewraz:Cool :)
[09:57] <tuxar> pielgrzym, but you have to restart your X session to make changes stay, CTRL-ALT-Backspace
[09:57] <tuxar> pielgrzym, save all your work before
[09:58] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[09:58] <pielgrzym> tuxar: but after exchanging folder.png with a gray icon it suddenly became blue again.
[09:58] <misieq> pilegrzym in kde you can click "properties" (wlasciwosci ;) ) and click on folder icon
[09:58] <dhq> when i run startx i am getting an error wacom and no devices detetcted
[09:58] <tuxar> pielgrzym, Ups! that's not normal :(
[09:58] <pielgrzym> misieq: but I'd like to change icon for all the folders, not just a few ;)
[09:59] <misieq> and if you want to exchange all icons, then you have to create new style based on your current (tar gzip it) but with folder.png changed
[09:59] <pielgrzym> misieq: damn, quite a lot of work :) I'll try this one :)
[09:59] <misieq> and later install it in "wyglad"
[09:59] <ocjeunesse> bonjour
[10:00] <ocjeunesse> je recherche kubuntu.fr
[10:00] <misieq> !french
[10:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:00] <ocjeunesse> le canal
[10:00] <dhq> when i run startx i am getting an error wacom and no devices detetcted
[10:00] <dhq> please help me
[10:00] <ocjeunesse> merci
[10:00] <dhq> i dont know what to do
[10:01] <pielgrzym> misieq: thanks for help :)
[10:01] <misieq> ocjeunesse: you're welcome ;)
[10:01] <mattikoo> Hello. I have used kubuntu dapper and it crashed many times, I tried zenwalk too and it don't crash. Windows keep alive too. I uses kde 3.5.4 and automatix
[10:01] <mattikoo> used
[10:02] <skavenge> and?
[10:02] <DaSkreech> dhq: You are getting warnings
[10:02] <randy> lotusleaf: I'm waiting for my new password to activate on mozillazine forums so I can see and share with you any postings I did there.
[10:02] <dhq> DaSkreech: yes
[10:02] <DaSkreech> dhq: Those are "normal"
[10:02] <mattikoo> Is kde 3.5.4 stable?
[10:02] <skavenge> not for alot ofpeople
[10:02] <buz> mattikoo: kwin keeps crashing for me
[10:02] <dhq> DaSkreech: but the it dosnt login kde or xserver
[10:03] <dhq> i am doin all this at console level
[10:03] <mattikoo> buz: what's kwin?
[10:03] <tuxar> mattikoo, for me it is very stable
[10:03] <stewraz> mmmm beeath a steel sky seems to be taking ages to launch
[10:03] <randy> lotusleaf, DaSkreech, Interestingly, Seamonkey started seemingly on its own, must have been queing
[10:03] <derek_> hey is there anything like cpuz for linux?
[10:03] <buz> mattikoo: it draws windows for you, basically
[10:03] <misieq> pielgrzym: in case you wanted some help in (i believe your) native language, you can /msg me
[10:03] <DaSkreech> dhq: Then that's not your problem
[10:04] <DaSkreech> dhq: If you want you can get rid of those warnings
[10:04] <mattikoo> buz, tuxar: how to fix?
[10:04] <intelikey> hehhe this is cute! kde screen saaver can't access my home dir.
[10:04] <dhq> DaSkreech: what do i do
[10:04] <buz> dunno
[10:04] <derek_> is there anything like cpuz for linux?
[10:04] <buz> i live with it for the time being
[10:04] <buz> downgrading to kde 3.5.3 is too much pain
[10:04] <Polioincornholio> Heya guys
[10:04] <intelikey> it seems that the address of my home dir is not a leagle address for kde  ?
[10:05] <derek_> !cpuz
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpuz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <Polioincornholio> Just some light comic relief here, before i ask a noobish question
[10:05] <Polioincornholio> http://xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png
[10:05] <pielgrzym> misieq: thanks :) today I rather won't do it - too much work :) ale dzieki za pomoc :)
[10:05] <skavenge> derek_: what does it do, what are you looking for? a measure of used cpu or what?
[10:05] <buz> where can i go bitch about the edgy theme?
[10:05] <mattikoo> buz, tuxar, thank you :)
[10:05] <dhq> DaSkreech: so.....
[10:05] <sleeptyper> lol Polioincornholio
[10:05] <skavenge> buz: #ubuntu+1 is the edgy channel
[10:05] <derek_> cpu frequency, (like htt and fsb memory speeds and timmings
[10:05] <buz> mhh i could have figured
[10:06] <buz> i tried #kubuntu+1 but it was emtpy
[10:06] <randy> lotusleaf, DaSkreech, Also interesting all the errors the terminal gave upon trying to start Seamonkey before
[10:06] <intelikey> buz #ubuntu+1 for all your bitching needs   lol
[10:06] <buz> intelikey: did you look at it? its gruesome
[10:06] <buz> worse than now, even
[10:07] <draik> intelikey, I got it worked out
[10:07] <dhq> is there anythin else other thanxserver
[10:07] <intelikey> buz no i'm a dapper'r
[10:07] <draik> GRUB works
[10:07] <intelikey> draik what it was ?
[10:07] <intelikey> yes the error 17  what it was ?
[10:07] <draik> GRUB was loading from my 3rd HDD, not my 1st
[10:07] <draik> yup
[10:07] <draik> Error 17
[10:08] <buz> well so am i, but i tried it (too broken for anything real right now)
[10:08] <draik> Jucato helped me out
[10:08] <buz> screenshots are at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu#head-10d072d689fb5a44fbb881026216021c84630ea0
[10:08] <buz> (i still cant believe it)
[10:08] <intelikey> so your bios was set to sda first draik ?
[10:09] <draik> It was a bit strange... I could load up the HDD properly with the GRUB if I told the Live CD to run from HDD, but not if I just let my desktop boot by itself
[10:09] <draik> nope
[10:09] <draik> BIOS was fine
[10:09] <draik> It was pointing in the wrong direction
[10:10] <misieq> how do i attach my bluetooth device to /dev/rfcommX ?
[10:10] <buz> draik: your boot.map is likely wrong
[10:10] <buz> i had that once upon a time
[10:10] <buz> no wait
[10:10] <buz> the name is different
[10:11] <draik> actually, my device.map was wrong
[10:11] <buz> draik: check /boot/grub/device.map
[10:11] <draik> I had to add my new HDD
[10:11] <buz> yeah that happens at lot with sata
[10:11] <buz> especially when you twist bios boot order
[10:11] <draik> Quick question, someone is using a registered nick that I have
[10:11] <draik> How do I get it back if they're signed on to it?
[10:11] <buz> mhh signed on?
[10:11] <draik> yup
[10:11] <intelikey> /msg nickserv recover blah
[10:11] <buz> you mean like signed onto nickserv?
[10:12] <draik> says that I can't use it because someone is using it ATM
[10:12] <intelikey>  /msg nickserv help
[10:12] <draik> yup
[10:12] <buz> yeah /nickserv help
[10:12] <sleeptyper> recover, then release
[10:12] <skavenge> its 'ghost'
[10:12] <skavenge> oh someone is on it n/m
[10:12] <awka> hola
[10:12] <awka> alguien me puede ayudar
[10:12] <sleeptyper> #kubuntu-es <-
[10:12] <awka> con un problema que tengo con DHCP
[10:13] <intelikey> you can do a hostal take over  or you could /msg them and tell them it's regestered and would they like to change their nick draik
[10:13] <buz> who is in charge of canonicals mirrors anyway?
[10:13] <draik> ok
[10:13] <buz> (for some rather weird reason ch.archive points to the uk even though there are ultra fast swiss mirrors)
[10:14] <awka> alguien me puede ayudar con DHCP
[10:14] <intelikey> i prefer to tell people before i chase them off my nest....
[10:14] <sleeptyper> awka, -> #kubuntu-es
[10:14] <sebastian> hey im having problems with my ati card... for some reason i get higher FPS in glxgears with the mesa driver then the ATI driver
[10:14] <Polioincornholio> guys
[10:14] <draik> lol
[10:14] <draik> it was ghosted
[10:15] <Polioincornholio> i need to install ndiswrapper
[10:15] <intelikey> so why can't kde look in my home dir for pic's for screensaver ?
[10:15] <sleeptyper> ghost works though even if someone really is using it :)
[10:15] <Polioincornholio> could someone help, i know it's an easy problem
[10:15] <skavenge> Polioincornholio: ndiswrapper-utils on the cd
[10:15] <|lostbyte|> sebastian, and how much diff ?
[10:15] <Polioincornholio> yep
[10:15] <sebastian> hmm
[10:15] <awka> alguien que hable espaol que me pueda ayudar con un problema con DHCP
[10:15] <sebastian> mesa had about 350ish and ATI about 125
[10:15] <|lostbyte|> Polioincornholio, apt-get ndiswrapper
[10:15] <Polioincornholio> skavenge: how, exactly do i get it off
[10:15] <sebastian> its a raden 9600 256mb
[10:15] <buz> awka: try #kubuntu-es
[10:16] <Polioincornholio> I'm stumped
[10:16] <|lostbyte|> Polioincornholio, with sudo though.
[10:16] <skavenge> Polioincornholio: look for it in adept or sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[10:16] <intelikey> it seems as far as kde is concerned i have an unusable $HOME
[10:16] <sebastian> is that really poor preformance for this card?
[10:16] <awka> alguien que hable espaol que me pueda ayudar con un problema con DHCP
[10:16] <Polioincornholio> Skavenge, i did that, but the search chutrned out nothing, and the cmd said it could not find the packjage
[10:16] <buz> intelikey: what is your home'
[10:17] <skavenge> Polioincornholio: and you've still got the cd in?
[10:17] <intelikey>  /var/local/www/.something
[10:17] <Polioincornholio> dvd, yes
[10:17] <awka> alguien que hable espaol que me pueda ayudar con un problema con DHCP
[10:17] <buz> wtf is your home in /var ????
[10:17] <gsuveg> re
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> awka, english pls.
[10:18] <digits> !es
[10:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:18] <intelikey> buz it's not a problem for xfce or blackbox  but kde seems to think i can't do that...
[10:18] <gsuveg> ndiswrapper works good with broadcom?
[10:18] <buz> it probably doesnt like the hidden dir very much?
[10:19] <intelikey> buz would you rather i put my home in /proc  lol :)
[10:19] <buz> try removing the dot for starters
[10:19] <intelikey> na i like hidden dirs
[10:20] <buz> personally i prefer encrypted home, really ;)
[10:20] <intelikey> that's not the problem. it's the www that it throwing kde for a loop
[10:20] <awka> alguien que hable espaol que me pueda ayudar con un problema con DHCP
[10:20] <sebastian929> anyone here have a ATI radeon 9600 installed on kubuntu?
[10:20] <skavenge> Polioincornholio: are you already installed or running off the livecd?
[10:20] <digits> awka: redigera
[10:20] <digits> awka: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:20] <BlueLaguna> what works better, xgl with compiz or aiglx with comiz?
[10:20] <BlueLaguna> over KDE...
[10:21] <intelikey> i can manually type in the address but it always reverts to the www and sits there.   maybe i should write an index html ???
[10:21] <buz> compiz in general doesnt work very well with kde
[10:21] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Dod you have rights to your home?
[10:21] <digits> awka: I can help you with DHCP in english, but I don't speak Spanish...
[10:21] <intelikey> DaSkreech but of course
[10:21] <buz> scnr
[10:22] <intelikey> i rented one time... place was a dump.  kinda like the one i own now... but it's my dump :)
[10:24] <intelikey> well as long as i can pay the taxes it's mine....   i guess that means it's not really mine dont it ???
[10:25] <shannon_> I have a bcm4318, but I cannot get it to work, I looked on the wiki and on the forums, and tried their ideas/tips/guides/walkthroughs. I'm still not getting anything
[10:25] <shannon_> btw: I'm on ethernet now
[10:26] <Dannilion> you trying to use the bcm43xx driver or ndiswrapper?
[10:26] <intelikey> konq doesn't have any problem browsing my home....  i guess it's something in the screensaver setup that don't like www
[10:26] <shannon_> Dannilion: the bcm43xx one
[10:26] <Dannilion> ok
[10:26] <intelikey> !ndiswrapper
[10:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:27] <Dannilion> what bit isn't working?
[10:27] <shannon_> intelikey: I know ndiswrapper
[10:27] <skavenge> ndiswrapper was way easier for me personally, ive got a 4306 though
[10:27] <intelikey> k
[10:27] <shannon_> Dannilion: Thye part where I connect. I can get to the hardware
[10:27] <Dannilion> I've got the 4306 and ndiswrapper was iffy with it
[10:27] <shannon_> Dannilion: lspci shows it, as does iwconfig and iwlist and ifconfig and kcontrol
[10:28] <skavenge> i could never get network connections with the kernel module
[10:28] <Dannilion> so you can do sudo ifconfig whateveryourwirelessis up?
[10:28] <shannon_> Dannilion: but ping says -> Destination Host Unreachable
[10:28] <Dannilion> ok
[10:28] <shannon_> Dannilion: yes, I imagine so
[10:28] <Dannilion> Try it
[10:28] <shannon_> Dannilion: I did similar in kcontrol, but I'll do it in CLI this time
[10:29] <sebastian929> my server and client vendor string in glxinfo dont match how can i fix it?
[10:29] <sebastian929> server glx vendor string: SGIv
[10:29] <sebastian929> server glx vendor string: SGI
[10:29] <sebastian929> client glx vendor string: ATI
[10:29] <Dannilion> Sometimes the cli can give an error message that kcontrol doesn't give
[10:29] <shannon_> Dannilion: okay -- up
[10:29] <Dannilion> right
[10:29] <aztun> hi all
[10:29] <shannon_> Dannilion: no error message
[10:29] <aztun> is there any .deb of konversation 1.0
[10:29] <Dannilion> now go internet, Wireless Assistant
[10:29] <shannon_> Dannilion: um -- just a minute
[10:30] <Dannilion> That's good, that means you got past the bit that I got stuck on :P
[10:30] <shannon_> Dannilion: specifically wirelesss assistant?
[10:30] <Dannilion> Yes
[10:30] <shannon_> Dannilion: okay
[10:30] <shannon_> Dannilion: I'm  installing it
[10:30] <Dannilion> Wireless Assistant (Wireless LAN Manager)
[10:30] <Dannilion> ok
[10:31] <Dannilion> I can never get my wireless connection up through kcontrol
[10:31] <shannon_> sudo apt-get install wlassistant
[10:31] <shannon_> Reading package lists... Done
[10:31] <shannon_> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:31] <shannon_> wlassistant is already the newest version.
[10:31] <shannon_> ^^
[10:31] <skavenge> wireless assistant is a great program
[10:31] <sebastian929> anyone know how to remedy this please?
[10:31] <digits> anybody had any success with their ati (radeon 9600) card and fglrxin x86? i just get complaints bout DRI
[10:31] <shannon_> That's it, right?
[10:31] <shannon_> now I swith internet connections'
[10:31] <Dannilion> shannon_, should be under Internet in your KMenu
[10:31] <buz> over
[10:32] <shannon_> Dannilion: it is
[10:32] <Dannilion> click on it
[10:32] <shannon_> Dannilion: okay -- I'm SeanTater also (another computer)
[10:32] <Dannilion> type password, tell me if it sees your network
[10:32] <skavenge> knetworkmanager doesnt even recognize i have a connection ;p never bothered to set it all up though
[10:32] <SeanTater> (me)
[10:32] <Dannilion> knetworkmanager never worked for me either
[10:32] <buz> skavenge: works like a charm with my centrino
[10:32] <sebastian929> can anyone here help me with my ati radeon card?
[10:33] <buz> first thing that ever worked with wpa and centrino for me, really
[10:33] <Dannilion> We both have the bcm4306 chipset in our wireless cards though- that doesn't like knetworkmanager
[10:33] <skavenge> must be
[10:33] <Dannilion> shannon_, does it see your connection?
[10:33] <buz> could be
[10:34] <buz> i had no end of trouble with bcm*
[10:34] <SeanTater> Dannilion: it sees my router
[10:34] <Dannilion> SeanTater, click on your router
[10:34] <SeanTater> Dannilion: it has not connected yet (i'm still setting up the ip and such)
[10:34] <SeanTater> Dannilion: I did, not I have to set up manual ip
[10:35] <Dannilion> ahh, ok
[10:35] <Dannilion> do so then, then let me know if it connects
[10:35] <Dannilion> (mine is also a manual IP and it worked fine once it was setup)
[10:36] <shannon_> Dannilion: Connection failed
[10:36] <Dannilion> click it again
[10:36] <Xcalibur> I'm so happy I got my card working
[10:36] <Xcalibur> and
[10:36] <Dannilion> and keep clicking it- mine takes a few tries sometimes
[10:36] <Xcalibur> does anyone know where i can get flashplayer 8?
[10:37] <Xcalibur> I got 7
[10:37] <Xcalibur> but i need 8
[10:37] <skavenge> heh
[10:37] <skavenge> flash 7 is the newest for linux
[10:37] <SeanTater> failed again
[10:38] <Dannilion> you have to run firefox in wine to use 8 (or 9)
[10:38] <Dannilion> ok...
[10:38] <Xcalibur> somone said that 9 wasn't tat far away
[10:38] <Xcalibur> well, what media player should i use for break.com?
[10:38] <aliasfred> there is one guy working on flash for linux doing a blog
[10:38] <SeanTater> Dannilion: keeps fialing
[10:38] <Dannilion> have you ran sudo iwconfig whateveryourwirelessis rate 11M?
[10:39] <SeanTater> Dannilion: not recently
[10:39] <SeanTater> Dannilion: trying now
[10:39] <Dannilion> do so now
[10:39] <Xcalibur> yo
[10:39] <Xcalibur> whats a good media player for linux?
[10:39] <Xcalibur> for break.com
[10:39] <thomm> hi everybody! my english is so bad, but I have a problem, so I hope, you can help me. I have a lampp sever under kubuntu. i can't have a smtp server on that machine, so i must to use other. I change in php.ini smtp = localhost to smtp = smtp.***.com and i restart an apache. but i still can't to send mails..:( please, can someone help me? once again, i'm sorry for my english.
[10:40] <Xcalibur> you english is actually not that bad
[10:40] <thomm> thanks:)
[10:40] <thomm> i'm only 14teen
[10:40] <Xcalibur> for mail related server, I use Cmail, but I'm not sure if they have it for linux
[10:40] <Dannilion> SeanTater, try clicking on your router again
[10:40] <Xcalibur> it's very easy to me
[10:41] <SeanTater> Dannilion: have (since the iwconfig thing) 3 times, nothing new -- still failing
[10:41] <Xcalibur> !smtp
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <Dannilion> ok
[10:41] <Xcalibur> !server
[10:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[10:41] <SeanTater> Dannilion: I also pressed refresh also
[10:41] <Dannilion> ok
[10:41] <thomm> thanks, xcalibur
[10:41] <buz> thomm: are you editing the correct php.ini?
[10:42] <buz> for apache2, that woudl be /etc/php/apache2/php.ini
[10:42] <Xcalibur> !seen HawKind
[10:42] <ubotu> I haven't seen hawkind recently
[10:42] <thomm> buz: i thing.. yes..
[10:42] <pierreth> i have some problem with my fonts
[10:42] <Dannilion> SeanTater, close Wireless Assistant, and open kcontrol
[10:42] <buz> thomm: you could also try installing sendmail with a smarthost
[10:42] <SeanTater> Dannilion: ok
[10:42] <Xcalibur> !seen Jucato
[10:42] <ubotu> I last saw Jucato (n=jucato@124.106.194.30) 3h 12m 51s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[10:42] <pierreth> when i try to add them, kde is saying there are already there
[10:42] <buz> it will then relay all mails through that host via smt
[10:42] <buz> p
[10:43] <pierreth> but i don't see them
[10:43] <pierreth> any idea?
[10:43] <Dannilion> SeanTater, set up your ip details again, and enable the connection again
[10:43] <coreymon77> hey everyone
[10:43] <SeanTater> Dannilion: okay
[10:43] <SeanTater> Dannilion: it's reloading the network now
[10:43] <Dannilion> SeanTater, do you currently have any security on your router?
[10:44] <SeanTater> Dannilion: no
[10:44] <SeanTater> Dannilion: no wep, no wpa
[10:44] <Dannilion> ok :)
[10:44] <Dannilion> ok, see if that's worked
[10:44] <thomm> hmm..  i need some module for php , so i can send mails? yes, i edit /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[10:44] <coreymon77> i added my printer to the printers list
[10:44] <pierreth> i have an error with some fonts
[10:44] <_lupine> aww... 4,500 miles away
[10:45] <Dannilion> _lupine, you're quite welcome to use my connection- High Spen, Rowlands Gill, England :P
[10:45] <MetaMorfoziS> jocakat
[10:45] <pierreth> Error: Could not determinate font's name
[10:45] <SeanTater> Dannilion: no joy yet -- still trying
[10:45] <Dannilion> ok
[10:45] <SeanTater> _lupine: for one, in the US, in NC
[10:45] <pierreth> I'm trying to use my fonts from Mac OS X
[10:45] <Dannilion> SeanTater, CLI time again: sudo iwlist scan
[10:45] <pierreth> Any idea how?
[10:45] <buz> thomm: should work out of the box
[10:46] <SeanTater> Dannilion: okay
[10:46] <SeanTater> Dannilion: it just finished reloading, no joy
[10:46] <Dannilion> right, do the scan
[10:46] <gotnonickname> hmm
[10:46] <SeanTater> Dannilion: doing them now
[10:46] <gotnonickname> i need to resize my root partition..
[10:46] <SeanTater> Dannilion: it found one
[10:47] <Dannilion> right
[10:47] <SeanTater> Dannilion: but I can't paste, so
[10:47] <Dannilion> help here: how do you connect to a network in the CLI again?
[10:47] <SeanTater> Dannilion: ifconfig?
[10:47] <Dannilion> wait
[10:47] <SeanTater> Dannilion: I don't know
[10:47] <Dannilion> sudo iwconfig essid whateveryournetworkis
[10:48] <SeanTater> Dannilion: okay
[10:48] <thomm> buz: thanks, so i try to install postfix and that smtp add in relayhost..
[10:48] <Dannilion> sorry, sudo iwconfig yourwirelesscard essid whateveryournetworknameis
[10:48] <buz> thomm: that should work
[10:48] <SeanTater> Dannilion: ah-ok
[10:48] <SeanTater> Dannilion: I was about to say..
[10:48] <Dannilion> first one brings up an error ;)
[10:48] <gotnonickname> hmm
[10:49] <thomm> buz: ok
[10:49] <gotnonickname> 'do i need to boot from a livecd to resize my root partition?
[10:49] <_lupine> yes
[10:49] <SeanTater> Dannilion: still nothing
[10:49] <Dannilion> ok
[10:49] <gotnonickname> _lupine: me?
[10:49] <_lupine> gotnonickname: yes :)
[10:49] <SeanTater> Dannilion: just "destination host unreachable"
[10:49] <Dannilion> Right then, I'm out of ideas
[10:49] <_lupine> SeanTater: try setting the AP
[10:49] <gotnonickname> _lupine: thanks, restarting :p
[10:49] <Dannilion> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=4318
[10:49] <Dannilion> use that with ndiswrapper
[10:49] <_lupine> e.g. sudo iwconfig <interface> ap <router's MAC ID>
[10:50] <_lupine> also check dmesg for errors ;)
[10:50] <Dannilion> thanks _lupine :P
[10:50] <SeanTater> _lupine: okay
[10:50] <Dannilion> I'm absolutely hopeless at support unless I'm at the computer in question :P
[10:51] <SeanTater> _lupine: nothing
[10:51] <_lupine> does iwconfig show the ap's MAC in the config
[10:51] <_lupine> ?
[10:51] <Darko> yep i thhink
[10:52] <_lupine> hmm. How about sudo ifconfig <interface> up ?
[10:52] <Xcalibur> anyone know a good media player for opera, flash player don't work
[10:52] <SeanTater> _lupine: okay -- trying that
[10:52] <Darko> it'l say somethin like this Access Point: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
[10:53] <SeanTater> _lupine: no change
[10:53] <SeanTater> Darko: me?
[10:53] <SeanTater> Darko: that's what I put in as the mac address
[10:53] <_lupine> still nothing in dmesg?
[10:53] <Darko> no what you trying to do?
[10:54] <Xcalibur> ?
[10:54] <Xcalibur> anyone?
[10:54] <SeanTater> _lupine: I have not checked
[10:54] <thomm> buz: shit.. so.. now i now, that relay is not supported in my network..:( [im really sure]  so, only what is my chance is right configure php..
[10:54] <SeanTater> Darko: connect to the internet with a bcm4318 card
[10:54] <SeanTater> _lupine: I'd checking dmesg now
[10:54] <buz> thomm: you dont need a relay, you need to setup the smtp server of your isp as smarthost
[10:54] <buz> if that doesnt work, nothing will
[10:55] <Darko> bah i hate that card
[10:55] <Dannilion> it's one of the few worse than mine :P
[10:55] <Dannilion> (bcm4306)
[10:55] <SeanTater> _lupine: Dannilion, Darko, It just crashed, I'm restarting
[10:55] <Dannilion> restarts are always good
[10:56] <Dannilion> fixed mine a couple of times :P
[10:56] <SeanTater>  / hammer /
[10:57] <SeanTater> logging in
[10:57] <thomm> buz: smarthost? what is smarthost?
[10:58] <SeanTater> no joy
[10:58] <buz> thomm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_host
[10:58] <thomm> buz: thanks:)
[10:58] <buz> basically, your postfix sends all mail to some other smtp server which then takes care of delivery
[10:58] <buz> i'm sure there are docs for postfix (i never used postfix)
[10:58] <SeanTater> okay -- dmesg is complaining about bcm43xx
[10:59] <thomm> so, but i think, this isnt supported in my network..:(
[11:00] <thomm> what i really need ist right configure a php.ini..
[11:00] <SeanTater> Dannilion: _lupine, Darko, It is complaing about "FATAL_ERROR: BCM43xx_IRQ_XMIT_ERROR"
[11:00] <buz> if that isnt supported, smtp in php wont work either
[11:00] <SeanTater> Dannilion: _lupine, Darko, It is complaing about it every 20 seconds
[11:02] <thomm> hmm.. so if mail goes direct to the remote smtp server, its okey. but all other is disable..
[11:02] <SeanTater> okay -- using wlassistant] 
[11:02] <SeanTater> not workinf
[11:02] <SeanTater> trying kcontrol
[11:03] <SeanTater> now it says "network is unreachable"
[11:03] <SeanTater> instead of destination host
[11:04] <coreymon77> nvm i got the printer working
[11:04] <coreymon77> next question
[11:04] <coreymon77> is it possible to sync a hp ipaq h1940 in kubuntu
[11:04] <SeanTater> coreymon77: neve heard of it
[11:04] <SeanTater> it's reloading
[11:05] <coreymon77> its a pocket pc
[11:05] <SeanTater> :-| still not working
[11:05] <SeanTater> coreymon77: try kitchensync
[11:05] <SeanTater> coreymon77: and kpilot
[11:06] <SeanTater> um --
[11:08] <SeanTater> ?!
[11:09] <sebastian929> what is a good motherboard company for linux? im using asus and it uses via.. is that bad?
[11:09] <SeanTater> it says kubuntu has gone 49710 daya without ut's fs being checked -- check forced
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> SeanTater: tyan make the best boards in my opinion
[11:09] <SeanTater> I'm not sure/I'M? 49710 days old, much less my computer
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> SeanTater: supermicro are good also (but intel only)
[11:10] <SeanTater> h3sp4wn: tey <tab> again
[11:10] <arthomps> anybody got an idea how to debug random freezes on an x2 running the k8 smp enabled kernel.  it's completely random when it happens.  no /var/log/messeges.
[11:10] <SeanTater> h3sp4wn: you got the wrong person
[11:10] <arthomps> it's like once every 2/3 days.
[11:10] <nonickname> hey
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> sebastian929: tyan or (supermicro if intel maybe)
[11:11] <SeanTater> nonickname: hello
[11:11] <SeanTater> @leet nonickname
[11:11] <Ubugtu> n0n!ckn4m3
[11:11] <coreymon77> has anybody heard of the hp ipaq h1940
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> SeanTater: sorry I will pay more attention next time
[11:11] <SeanTater> nonickname: try that one
[11:11] <nonickname> SeanTater: why?
[11:11] <SeanTater> h3sp4wn: no big deal
[11:12] <SeanTater> nonickname: <sarcasm>
[11:12] <nonickname> ah
[11:12] <nonickname> i'm trying to resize a partition
[11:12] <coreymon77> does anyone know if you can sync it in kubuntu
[11:12] <SeanTater> h3sp4wn: I do that all the time
[11:12] <SeanTater> coreymon77: I'm not /sure/, but I'd give a 50% chance
[11:12] <SeanTater> coreymon77: ask #ubuntu also
[11:19] <nonickname> hmm
[11:19] <shannon> could someone help me with a serial modem problem please?
[11:21] <thomas> my other computer seems to ahve a bad Xorg, what is the best way to recover it?
[11:21] <nonickname> does resizing under parted take a while?
[11:21] <thomas> have a bad xorg...
[11:22] <thomas> nonickname: i have done it using qtparted which is a graphical version, that is quite quick < minute in all times i have done it
[11:22] <nonickname> ah''
[11:23] <thomas> parted should be as quick
[11:23] <nonickname> it just finished :p
[11:23] <thomas> qtparted does nothing but run parted with some parameters
[11:23] <Stc> hi
[11:23] <thomas> ;)
[11:23] <thomas> hi
[11:23] <Stc> ehm...
[11:24] <thomas> nonickname: df -h in konsole will tell you that
[11:24] <Stc> why in /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.mylanguage don't exist ?
[11:24] <nonickname> thomas: hmm.. i'm guessing my fs needs to be mounted?
[11:25] <Stc> in ubuntu this file is here
[11:25] <thomas> nonickname: yes
[11:25] <nonickname> ah
[11:25] <thomas> or you could see it graphically in qtparted...
[11:25] <nonickname> hmm
[11:26] <nonickname> ah
[11:26] <lavi>  ,   :)
[11:26] <nonickname> well, gg.. only 9 gigs used
[11:26] <dec_> does anyone know why I can't get sound for videos on the internet what the cause could be?
[11:27] <nonickname> dec_: could be anything. what video player are you using?
[11:27] <dec_> the video is streamed from youtube
[11:27] <nonickname> ah
[11:27] <nonickname> other sounds work?
[11:27] <dec_> all other sound works fine
[11:27] <nonickname> hmm
[11:28] <dec_> are there any codecs that I might need
[11:28] <nonickname> i'm not sure.. i thought youtube used flash
[11:28] <yaneth> buenas tardes
[11:28] <dec_> I believe it is flash
[11:28] <TheFuzzball> it is!
[11:28] <dec_> the video is perfect but no audio
[11:28] <Stc> why in /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.mylanguage don't exist ?
[11:29] <TheFuzzball> even though I am not in this conversation :)
[11:29] <nonickname> lol
[11:29] <nonickname> take over, TheFuzzball
[11:29] <dec_> the more the better
[11:29] <yaneth> acabo de instalar kubuntu y no me reproduce musica, ya probe con amarok, kaffeine, lei en internet he instalado libxine-extracodecs
[11:29] <yaneth> pero ni asi funciona
[11:29] <nonickname> !sp
[11:29] <TheFuzzball> nonickname: all I know is it uses flash :)
[11:29] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[11:29] <thomas> !sp
[11:29] <lavi> hi all!
[11:29] <skavenge> flash has known sound issues, there are workarounds on ubuntuforums
[11:29] <thomas> !es
[11:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:29] <nonickname> :p
[11:30] <nonickname> now what was that other guy speaking..
[11:30] <nonickname> russian?
[11:30] <nonickname> !ru
[11:30] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:30] <thomas> si
[11:30] <TheFuzzball> Babelfish!
[11:30] <nonickname> lol
[11:30] <nonickname> babelfish is wierd x_x
[11:30] <lavi> Who knows why does kppp freezes, when I try to connect via DKU2 & NOKIA 6230 (usibg gnokii driver)
[11:30] <TheFuzzball> anyway, what did I come on for?
[11:30] <nonickname> i translated microsoft visual studio into japanese, then from the japanese translation back into english, and it said something about seeing eye
[11:31] <TheFuzzball> ohh yea, how do I update from Dapper to Edgy?
[11:31] <svivian> How can I listen to Shoutcast streams in (K)ubuntu?
[11:31] <Dannilion> Amarok
[11:32] <thomas> svivian: you need Amarok with the necessary media type codecs
[11:32] <thomas> amaroK i guess :P
[11:32] <TheFuzzball> is there a channel where you talk about Edgy Eft?
[11:32] <nonickname> thomas: how exactly do i resize with qtparted?
[11:32] <svivian> thomas: I have Amarok and the w32 codecs. No joy
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> what's the cli command to list all the groups please people?
[11:32] <Dannilion> I find downloading the listen.pls (Winamp) file to my computer then playing that works great
[11:33] <nonickname> it's telling me that the drive is busy x_x
[11:33] <svivian> Dannilion: I am trying to listen to a stream off the web
[11:33] <Dannilion> yup
[11:33] <Sanne> TheFuzzball: there used to be #ubuntu+1
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> thomas: what are you trying to play?
[11:33] <Dannilion> still, you can save the listen.pls file, and it'll play the stream for you when opened in Amarok
[11:33] <TheFuzzball> !Edgy
[11:33] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:34] <thomas> I am getting vertical stripes that seems to slide around on my screen....is this fubared vsync or hsync settings somewhere?
[11:34] <TheFuzzball> ta
[11:34] <Sanne> TheFuzzball: see? ;)
[11:34] <thomas> TheGateKeeper: not mee it was svivian
[11:34] <thomas> i have screen/display/xorg problems on my other machine
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> svivian: what are you trying to play?
[11:35] <nonickname> =(
[11:36] <svivian> TheGateKeeper: I want to be able to listen to .pls streams off the internet
[11:36] <nonickname> thomas: it isn't like i'm deleting linux completely :p
[11:36] <nonickname> anyhow, i've been without games for nearly a week.. it's horrible
[11:36] <thomas> :) i know :P
[11:36] <boymask2000> hi there
[11:36] <TheFuzzball> nonickname: use Cedega!
[11:36] <thomas> hi
[11:37] <nonickname> TheFuzzball: tried it
[11:37] <svivian> Dannilion: You were right, downloading, then playing seems to do the trick. Thanks!
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> svivian: give me a url, I will see if I can hear them
[11:37] <thomas> Cegega sucks, imho....for multiplayers
[11:37] <nonickname> cedega gets the same error as wine on the game i tried to play
[11:37] <thomas> whic game?
[11:37] <Dannilion> svivian, there's probably another way- I just haven't found it yet :P
[11:37] <boymask2000> please, what is "Failed to connect to socket" message when starting gdmsetup ?
[11:38] <nonickname> it's a multiplayer version of mame
[11:38] <nonickname> ie, network play
[11:38] <nonickname> ie, internet play
[11:39] <nonickname> parted still hasn't finished =(
[11:39] <comrad[JL] > anyone know why my resolution won't go above 1024x768 , i have a 17 inch dell flat panel with an nvidia fx5700 :\
[11:40] <comrad[JL] > it should be able to go more right?
[11:40] <jordi_> How can I mount my DVD device in 'read-only' mode?
[11:40] <comrad[JL] > just installed ubuntu yesterday :\
[11:40] <nonickname> jordi_: how can you not mount it in dvd mode?
[11:40] <nonickname> read only, that is
[11:41] <aliasfred> jordi_: mount -o ro therestgoes here
[11:41] <jordi_> nonickname: and how do i do it?
[11:42] <nonickname> >_>
[11:42] <jordi_> when i put a DVD in the device, kubuntu attempts to automount but gets an error
[11:42] <thomas> help!....i can't see any text on my screen at boot-up anymore, not until i get to the kubuntu login screen....
[11:43] <thomas> rerun install cd may be a good idea?
[11:43] <jordi_> Konqueror says " unable to mount cause is protected agains writing"
[11:43] <nonickname> jordi_: scroll up to that point where you said my nickname last, and read one line above
[11:44] <nonickname> ah.. i dunno
[11:44] <nonickname> ahh, lovely
[11:44] <nonickname> input/output error during read on /dev/hda
[11:45] <jordi_> I did it before but it does not work!
[11:48] <nonickname> blarg
[11:48] <nonickname> laters guys
[11:50] <coreymon77> anybody know of an activesync program for linux that allows me to connect to my pocket pc to transfer files and install programs?
[11:58] <jordi_> what is a bad superblock?
[12:04] <Jefis> Hello, anyone Knows how to fix partition bug in Kubuntu dapper?
[12:04] <Jefis> it seams if i partition myself, i can't install
[12:04] <thomas> ??
[12:04] <thomas> can you explain more
[12:04] <thomas> Jefis: ?
[12:05] <Jefis> if i partition myself, kubuntu won't install
[12:05] <thomas> are you trying to install from the live CD?
[12:05] <Jefis> yes
[12:05] <thomas> hmmm
[12:06] <Jefis> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/47194
[12:06] <Martijn81> jordi_: _sounds_ like a chunk on the disk is damaged
[12:06] <Jefis> is there anyother way , how to install kubuntu?
[12:07] <Jefis> i really don't wan't, kubuntu to damage my all system
[12:07] <Jefis> with automatic partitioning
[12:07] <thomas> yes
[12:07] <Jefis> thomas how?
[12:07] <thomas> there is another way; you can use the alternate text based installer
[12:07] <thomas> or another live cd that wil help you partition the disk
[12:07] <thomas> such as gparted live cd
[12:07] <Jefis> is this really alternate? , or same code just different GUI ?
[12:08] <thomas> if the bug was with qtparted...qtparted is graphic frontend for parted
[12:08] <Jefis> thomas there is qparted in live cd
[12:08] <Jefis> oh
[12:08] <Jefis> em
[12:08] <thomas> what i am saying try gparted live cd
[12:09] <thomas> and use it just to do the partitioning
[12:09] <Jefis> ok, i'm trying once again
[12:09] <thomas> gparted is more up to date than qtparted i think