[12:16] raphink: mobility [12:16] something or other [12:16] no clue === dereks_ [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] sorry its kind of too fucked to do much [12:17] sorry... but my radeon is no end of trouble [12:17] which is why I'm forevermore buying NVidia [12:17] well [12:17] its a laptop, no choice [12:17] if i have a choice ill get all intel in the future [12:18] don't like AMD? [12:18] no. [12:18] and i meant intel graphics [12:18] hmmm... I was going to get one [12:18] oh... graphics [12:18] lol, ok [12:18] but intel graphics dont come with amd cpus :) === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [12:18] yeah, you've got a point === dereks_ [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === wwseb [n=a@ANancy-156-1-48-21.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wwseb [n=a@ANancy-156-1-48-21.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:22] claims to not support visual 0x4b [12:22] is the only apperantly error [12:23] dammit im dubm [12:23] i removed this gdm.conf-custom I swear [12:23] its still here [12:23] was the entire problem [12:24] (phew) === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@132.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] am I still online? if so, does anyone else having problems accessing revu? [12:38] s/having/have/ [12:39] yes, and yes [12:40] that means: yay! and damn, seems like tiber is down :( === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01 [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeALap [n=Ryan@eggplant-12.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty is off again [12:50] gn8 everyone === Pazzo [n=thomas@host130-250-static.72-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] hi === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] i'm making a package. i must copy a header file available in the sources to /usr/include/qt3/ (this header file is not in any ubuntu package). how should i do ?edit the debian/rules ? the configure script or the makefile ? [01:33] debian/rules, i'd say [01:34] but the header file is provided in the upstream Qt3 package? [01:34] i tried to put a cp in debian/rules, but it says it doesn't have the permission [01:34] you should use install [01:34] and it should be in the install target [01:35] hmm, I may have misinterpreted the context. === welshbyte wonders if a gcl sync would fix maxima [01:36] (It's not immediately clear to me if the package requires said header file to build or if said header file is what's installed as part of a binary package) [01:36] #include < this header file is not in any ubuntu package, but fortunately it is in the tarball of the software i'm packaging [01:37] is bitmapbutton.h part of upstream Qt3? [01:38] (If not, why does said package require it to be located system-wide? That sounds pretty gross.) [01:39] google has no result for "bitmapbutton.h site:http://doc.trolltech.com/" [01:41] crimsun: see the answer from the developer http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=14214526 [01:42] compile as root... maybe the makefile is supposed to copy this headerfile in /usr/include/qt3/ [01:43] that's horrible [01:44] you need to punch upstream vigourously. [01:45] in this case, Adri2000, hack all references of '#include ' into '#include "sourcedir/bitmapbutton.h"' === joejaxx [i=jadaz87@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] send the patch upstream, and after you do that, punch upstream vigourously. [01:46] ok, i'll try that [01:47] but i shouldn't edit directly the source files ? i have to make a patch and put it in debian/, right ? === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] Adri2000: depends if there's already a patch system in place [01:52] is this a new Debian/Ubuntu package? [01:52] yes, new [01:52] then it's up to you. Frankly I'd use a patch system. [01:53] diff old.cpp new.cpp > patch [01:53] ? [01:53] I imagine you'll be touching more than just one source file [01:53] in which case it'll be easier to diff -uNr [01:54] yes, this include is in multiple files [01:54] ok, i'll look at the diff man page [01:54] and i just put the patch in debian/, nothing special to do ? [01:55] depends which patch system you use. [01:55] if you want a manual patch system, put it wherever you'd like [01:55] quilt, dpatch, and others have special directories like debian/patches/ [01:57] ok, thank you for your help crimsun [01:57] np === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-070-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=darkmage@59.167.29.253] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] Adri2000: for patching? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources [02:14] is that ok http://adrishost.homeip.net/~adri2000/djplay.patch ? [02:15] make sure you hack the Makefile{,.in}(s), too [02:20] not so easy :s [02:21] grep for that header file [02:22] $ grep bitmapbutton.h djplay-0.3.0/Makefile.* [02:22] nothing [02:23] there are some bitmapbutton in the makefile but no .h [02:25] be careful with '.' and grep expressions. [02:26] you'll probably want to escape it or the entire filename [02:27] still nothing with bitmapbutton\.h and "bitmapbutton.h" [02:27] i'd be paranoid and run grep -nr foo\.h * [02:28] no... and with -i neither... [02:29] maybe i can try without editing the makefile, why would it complain ? === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grexk [n=grexk@124.107.72.42] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] to apply the patch : patch -p1 djplay.patch is ok ? [02:37] you might want to name your patch something more descriptive [02:37] Adri2000: what kind of patch is it? dpatch? [02:37] no it's just a diff [02:38] welshbyte: something like bitmapbutton.patch ? :) [02:39] Adri2000: oh... dpatches are like scripts, so you can execute them :) [02:40] ryanakca: it's not a dpatch [02:41] Adri2000: something like that... it's so we know what the patch is doing when someone looks at it in future or tries to cross-reference a changelog entry with the patch [02:42] and then, should i leave the diectory djplay-patch there ? [02:42] ok can i remove it ? [02:42] or* [02:42] directory* === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] Adri2000: did you create that directory or did upstream? [02:43] hey LaserJock [02:43] hi welshbyte [02:44] i created it to edit the source files [02:44] and then made the diff with the upstream sources [02:44] oh well then remove it if you don't need it any more [02:44] it won't be part of the package [02:45] ok [02:51] patch -p0 LaserJock: got anything for me to do that'll give me a break from trying to make sense of maxima? :) [02:56] hmm [02:58] well, you could go through the MOTU Science bug list if you want [02:58] or work on merges [03:01] so anything on http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html ? [03:01] pretty much === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === devBrad [n=none@c-68-63-205-206.hsd1.ar.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] ok, I've got a .desktop file that points to icon file. I've got the .desktop installed, but where does the .png get put to? [03:39] /usr/share/pixmaps/ [03:40] kk, ty [03:42] How can I be able to debug this error "binary-indep"? [03:43] "make: *** [binary-indep] Error 1" [03:46] grexk: that means that the error is somewhere in the binary-indep: section of your makefile or rules file [03:46] thank, let me check [03:47] grexk: i expect the output given before that message would have told you what the actual error is [03:51] I get this error http://pastebin.com/781060, checking at the launchpad is not an issue in there daily build log? [03:58] I got now thanks anyway [04:00] what's the difference between Makefile.in and Makefile.am ? [04:03] Adri2000: http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/html_node/Introduction.html#Introduction [04:04] or read the autobook [04:08] so i should edit Makefile.am === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] Adri2000: If necessary, but most common changes can be made as parameters to configure (i.e. paths, CFLAGS) === caravena [n=caravena@65-34-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] Is it ok to remove "-i" options in binary-indep section? === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:24] anybody want to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2999 please? (And I triple checked this time :P === ryanakca watches the lordly MOTU scatter === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:33] hey Hobbsee [04:33] ryanakca: we don't scatter, we just don't respond [04:33] hi Hobbsee [04:33] morning lal [04:33] *all [04:33] hehe [04:33] heya LaserJock, welshbyte [04:34] LaserJock: sorry... I forgot :D [04:34] lol [04:34] Hey Hobbsee === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.153.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] hey ryanakca [04:37] Can I also upload backport package in REVU? [04:38] Hey Sarah. Hows uni life treating you? [04:38] hey TheMuso. didnt even go today :) [04:38] Ah ok. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] hmmm, what app does the nested login windows in KDE [04:54] xnest? [04:57] Hobbsee: hmm, tried that. I was looking for a particular item in the menu [04:57] ah [04:59] Hobbsee: you, know, I am going to have to install KDE at work next week. Does it come with trauma counselling after I remove it? *grin* [04:59] I wonder if it is just in edgy as I can't find it on either of my dapper boxes === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:01] Burgundavia: hahaha === Hawkwind_Lappy [n=SoS@ulteo/community/leader/forum/admin/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === welshbyte finishes merging adonthell and decides it's time for bed [05:35] g'night :) === somerville32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034081132.nb.aliant.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@210.0.212.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chesty [n=chesty@unconcerned.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ttyfscker [n=ttyfscke@unaffiliated/ttyfscker] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ttyfscker [n=ttyfscke@unaffiliated/ttyfscker] has left #ubuntu-motu ["This] === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3_ [n=marc@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3577869.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === somerville32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034081132.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:15] I think the glade package is broken [07:18] fix it? === Bieuzy [n=loic_gdl@AMarseille-252-1-125-44.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bieuzy [n=loic_gdl@AMarseille-252-1-125-44.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:20] I dunno how. [07:21] Anyone would like to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3000? === Hobbsee headdesks [07:21] grexk: xen? [07:21] yes [07:22] you've uploaded it natively, for a start [07:22] Xen FTW!!! [07:23] oh, wait, it was in edgy to start with, adn a backport. that's not so bad [07:23] grexk: backports stuff dont get reviewed by us. [07:23] What is the meaning of FTW? [07:23] For The Win [07:23] Heh [07:23] We so need full Xen support in Kubuntu [07:24] grexk: you have to file a bug requesting the backport (there's a button there for it), and present the requested things [07:24] !backports [07:24] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports [07:24] Oh, I see just uploaded it for crimsun to check. === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] vil: ping [07:38] trappist: good morning === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] vil: hi there. I'm going to bed in a few minutes, so if you want to run eclipse, we won't be competing for resources [07:41] well ok, then. I thought that there is just 512MB. at least free says that [07:42] yeah, that's all. there's ~1GB of swap, so whatever you want to do should be possible, but of course the load will skyrocket if it starts swapping. [07:43] I don't know what kind of load you're talking about, though === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grex1 [n=grexk@124.107.72.45] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] yeah, I looked at the numbers and jc1 took over 600MB resident and was really unhappy about it, swapping all around === shawarma_ [n=sh@vega.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:45] trappist: nevermind, g'night [07:45] ok, sorry it didn't work out. good night. [07:49] !Ubugtu [07:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about Ubugtu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Prezu_ [i=patryk@dug.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === somerville32 huggles Ubuntu. === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-62-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ohoel [n=beshy@unaffiliated/eruin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grexk [n=grexk@124.107.72.45] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-070-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ohoel [n=beshy@unaffiliated/eruin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.209] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:26] what does "bashism" mean ? === Zdra [n=zdra@172.227-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] pretending to require any POSIX shell, but using bash feature really [09:28] so, specifying #!/bin/sh at the top, but then doing stuff other shells choke on [09:31] how do I know that a certain syntax works only in bash ? [09:34] you test it with something else or know the differences because you read them somewhere or experienced them. [09:34] ic [09:34] ok, how do I do `cmd` in dash ? [09:35] dash [09:35] anibal: eh, no? [09:35] anibal: but I wanna test the output of it [09:35] AnAnt: `` works the same way in bash and dash, it's posix. [09:35] Mithrandir: hmm, ok [09:36] why would prozilla not be in the repositores, post hoary? [09:37] Mithrandir, you're right, you run dash and at the dash prompt you run the [09:37] well, how do I test a `cmd` in while using dash ? [09:37] while [[ `cmd` ] ] does not work [09:38] while [ `cmd` ] does, though [09:39] nope [09:39] tried it === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B20FA.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:40] \u@\h:\w$ while [ `echo foo` ] ; do echo hello; done [09:40] hello [09:40] hello [09:40] hello [09:40] hello [09:40] seems to work quite well for me. [09:40] is that dash ? [09:40] yes [09:40] good morning [09:40] hiya Daniel [09:41] hey Tollef - how are you? [09:43] that's wierd it gives me this: [: 10: is: unexpected operator [09:43] Mithrandir: I tried `cmd` instead of echo foo [09:43] Mithrandir: I tried `cmd` instead of `echo foo` === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/gosub] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:44] AnAnt: cmd, like literally? [09:44] Mithrandir: acon [09:45] Mithrandir: this command either gives this error: [09:45] Acon is loaded [09:45] Error opening /dev/vcsa10 [09:45] or it works [09:45] works being? [09:46] being that it does not return === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] you seem to be confused about what `` is used for. [09:47] it's used for capturing output. === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt_ [n=anant@62.114.91.131] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:56] Mithrandir: well, I just want to run a command, if it gives the error, then it should be run again [09:56] Mithrandir: sorry, I was dc ! [09:57] ping Mithrandir [10:01] you just want to retry the command an infinite number of times until it succeeds? [10:01] then do something like while ! acon ; : ; done === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:01] what is : ? [10:02] a shorthand for "true" [10:03] Mithrandir: thanks ! [10:04] it worked ! === AnAnt_ is now known as AnAnt [10:12] ok, gotta go [10:12] Mithrandir: thanks again === Chons [n=kvirc@195.14.225.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:e7:ad:d1c7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] StevenK: :P [10:41] this is pretty cool :P === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee notes that wireless connections are pretty good - i must be at least 15 m away from the access point === jinty [n=jinty@132.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] good morning [10:54] Morning === somerville32 prepares to go to bed soon. === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grexk [n=grexk@124.107.72.45] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] \o === Goshawk [n=vincenzo@d83-176-84-64.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@36.66-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] how 'bout a REVU DAY? [11:54] next week? [11:54] friday? [11:54] what do y'all think? === StevenK continues to ignore his lack of REVU account. [11:59] friday is fine for me (I'll certainly be less available the other days) === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:00] hi everybody [12:00] heya phanatic [12:00] hey Gloubiboulga [12:01] Gloubiboulga: do you have time for a review? [12:01] new upstream: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2990 [12:02] phanatic, soory, not know, I leave in 5 minutes [12:02] phanatic, I'll do it later today [12:02] Gloubiboulga: okay, thanks === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] dholbach: Hobbsee says that she'll have to be mysteriously absent on friday then :P [12:19] please, i've made a patch but it doesn't works [12:22] StevenK: why is that? [12:22] i've this error during pbuilder [12:22] dholbach: Note that Hobbsee has mostly taken control of my keyboard. [12:22] dpatch apply-all [12:22] applying patch 01_patch_init to ./ ... failed. [12:22] make: *** [patch-stamp] Error 1 [12:23] StevenK: right :-) [12:23] Sp4rKy: Since the patch failed to apply. dpatch ought to log the failure somewhere, debian/patched or so [12:24] dholbach: Hobbsee: i dont particularly like reviewing stuff - i probably miss a lot === xopher [n=xopher@a80-186-122-109.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] StevenK, i've no debian/patched === StevenK looks for something evil to do while having stolen the keyboard [12:25] StevenK: that's why always two people review a package [12:25] we just have to get started again [12:25] maybe my patch wasn't done correctly [12:25] i've done a diff -u between the two files [12:25] dholbach: Hobbsee: true that. as long as i'm neither of the two :P === StevenK actually advocated a package last night [12:26] StevenK: hobbsee: slacker [12:27] and a dpatch patch-template [12:30] do you have an idea ? [12:38] dholbach, do you have 5 min to help me ? [12:40] did you use dpatch-edit-patch 01_patch_init ? [12:40] no [12:41] i've done only one patch before, and i don't remember exactly how [12:42] so i may have done some mistakes ... [12:42] dpatch-edit-patch is what you want [12:42] maybe [12:42] it'll open a subshell, where you can apply your patch and play with it [12:42] then ctrl-d and it will generate the patch in debian/patches [12:43] ok :) [12:43] i try [12:45] you just have to add it to debian/patches/00list afterwards [12:45] but you seem to have figured that out already :) [12:45] ok [12:45] yes :) === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] dholbach, building [12:49] rock on [12:52] :) [12:52] pbuilder just run make, so patch seems works :D [12:54] i've another error with symlink, but patch seems work ! === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p508027A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-149-213.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] Hi... [01:58] I must package a little app for a customer of ours. He wants the description to be in german... how do I need to encode the control file to have aptitude, etc. display this properly? === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] hunger: ask mvo about apt-ddtp [02:02] dholbach: i'm fixing two bugs. i'm definetly lazy. [02:03] Hobbsee: you are always lazy [02:03] Hobbsee: rock on :-) [02:03] zul: indeed. [02:03] dholbach: unfortunately, one was a bug that was my fault, and the other i last touched that script. i didnt create the bug though. [02:03] :-) === Hobbsee didnt think that anyone would have a versioned dependancy on kopete, then screamed when it broke. [02:05] works fine unless the source is split. *shrugs* === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@a80-186-122-109.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] so .... [02:21] patch works good know, but i've again a strange issue with symlink [02:22] i've a library and lintian says i have to create the 2 symlinks because they have to exists in case of user do an apt-get remove [02:22] but when i try to create symlinks, pbuilder says tehy already exists [02:25] heh there should be a screensaver of bouncing ubuntu hackergotchi heads [02:25] zul: good thing i dont have a hackergotchi [02:26] you are not even on planet :) [02:26] zul: that's because i dont blog. [02:26] blogs are evil [02:26] well, writing blogs are evil [02:26] reading them is interesting though [02:26] yawn, hi * [02:27] hey Arbiter [02:27] hi Hobbsee [02:27] :) [02:27] no, i'm not reviewing an;ything :P [02:28] lol [02:28] i don't care :) [02:29] i'm busy with some other stuff :P [02:29] :P === shawarma [n=sh@vega.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] Hobbsee: are you going to participate to the next CC? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] Arbiter: um. what time is it? [02:31] when is it? [02:31] any of hte above? [02:32] Sep 6th, 8 o' clock [02:32] @schedule sydney [02:32] Hobbsee: Error: "schedule" is not a valid command. [02:32] Hobbsee: Sydney, right? [02:32] Arbiter: ye [02:32] s [02:33] this time is bad for me (midnight, arrrr) [02:33] :P [02:33] Arbiter: ouch. i'm probably driving to uni about that time, but i might make it [02:33] heh === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.153.61] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.136.241] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Goshawk [n=vincenzo@d83-176-84-64.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.152.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pazzo [n=thomas@dialin-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] We can't use upstreams debian/ , right? [03:32] if its good you can use it [03:32] (and he can drop it) [03:32] upstreams shouldnt have debian/ === kr4z [n=kr4z@stjhnf0111w-142163097183.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] kk, ty... I just needed some MOTU influence in this conversation I'm having with upstream :) [03:45] so uh...can we upload to universe again? === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.107.237] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] zul: we could the whole time === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] could a motu please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2999 when they get a chance? (And I triple checked it for the ones who reviewed it the other night :D ) === rikai [i=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] Err, small question... And not sure if this is the correct place to ask... but could someone tell me the version of Ubiquity in edgy knot-2? === xopher [n=xopher@a80-186-122-109.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] rikai: ubiquity will be the latest version, see launchpad [04:40] Riddell: Alraedy gort my asnwer elsewher, but thanks. I was curious as knot-2 was released today, and so was a ubiquity update. ;) === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns02-0024.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] ryanakca: looks good, a few comments http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2999 === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === somerville32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034081132.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:23] Riddell: kk, thanks === xopher [n=xopher@a80-186-122-109.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] afternoon === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] hey LaserJock [05:36] hi phanatic === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] dholbach: excellent! we've had the REVU day! [05:44] On Friday, August 8th we're going to have a fully-fledged REVU DAY and [05:44] are going to bring http://revu.tauware.de/ back on track. [05:44] that means we cant have another one, right??? [05:44] FUCKING HELL [05:44] dholbach, got hell day today ? [05:45] dholbach: Sorry, I found it. :-P === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.153.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-149-213.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.144.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] Gloubiboulga: thanks for the upload :) === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@lns02-0024.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeALap [n=Ryan@nock-set-12.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kristog [n=kristo@ip-127-234.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] hello * [06:43] hi === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.131] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] phanatic, no problem ;) [07:10] hey bddebian ! [07:11] i would help ubuntu in some way, i've already setup an account on launchpad and signed the CoC. [07:11] do you know what i can do? [07:11] kristog: well, it sort of depends on what you are interested in [07:11] do you like coding? [07:11] Are you a programmer? [07:12] LaserJock: uhm i prefer package sw or maintain it [07:12] Heya gang [07:12] Hi Gloubiboulga [07:12] documentation? [07:12] i'm not a coder :) [07:12] kristog: ok, cool. do you have experience making debian packages? [07:12] uh, yes. [07:12] LaserJock: what can i help if i'm a programmer? ;) [07:13] :D [07:13] phanatic: write things for specs [07:13] you could see my *packages* on launchpad. [07:13] ello bddebian [07:13] kristog: ah, were? [07:13] https://launchpad.net/people/giskard/+packages [07:13] I actually need to steal a programmer for a bit at some point [07:14] kristog: oh, very nice [07:14] ok cool, mtrace is mit [07:14] kristog: well, we need people for bug fixing, and merging/syncing from Debian right now [07:15] Heya welshbyte [07:15] kristog: the Universe repo will freeze on September 28th so we are trying to make sure we are as updated as possible before then [07:15] LaserJock: i guess all my packages are already handled by ubuntu-core people. [07:16] LaserJock: ok, so, is there a list of *not-updated* packages ? [07:16] ya know what === xopher [n=xopher@a80-186-122-109.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] I am going to spec this, and see if I can get any bites this way [07:16] kristog: merges.ubuntu.com I believe [07:16] as COMPLETELY irrelevant as it is. [07:18] LaserJock: thank you. there is something i should read before merge/sync? [07:18] Yeah bluefoxicy, don't do anything useful or anything.. ;-P [07:19] kristog: hmm, just a sec [07:19] bddebian: currently I'm trying to figure out how much memory waste is happening === Whoopie [n=Whoopie@unaffiliated/whoopie] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] # heap/mem waste at peak: 2.93 % [07:19] # average heap/mem waste: 19.68 % [07:20] hehe "Man, she's been grumpy all week" "Must be that time of the release cycle" [07:20] ^^^ Thunderbird after running for about 5 seconds; the peak waste is how much waste there is when the program has requested the most memory, while the average waste is the waste on average [07:21] kristog: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Merging-and-Syncing and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources (there is a sync and ongoing-merges section that is helpful) [07:21] And of course, I click a few messages and ........... # average heap/mem waste: 48.48 % [07:21] kristog: and just ask questions here too [07:21] Hi, I saw that xchat 2.6.6 is backported to dapper. But it's not shown when trying to upgrade. And launchpad says that it was built fine. Any ideas? [07:21] bddebian: highly not useful, I'm just trying to figure out if I should replace glibc's implementation of malloc() with something with an approximate 3.125% upper bound on memory waste :) [07:21] I have all repos enabled in sources.list [07:22] LaserJock: ok! thank you. [07:23] Whoopie: 1) dapper-backports in sources.list (I assume so) 2) it might not have hit the archives yet [07:25] LaserJock: ok, I'll wait. thanks. I only found it strange that it takes 3 days. [07:26] :/ [07:26] I wouldn't think it would [07:26] are you getting any other backported packages? [07:26] yes === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] hmm, must be held up or something [07:27] seems so [07:28] Whoopie: are you using au.archives.ubuntu.com? [07:32] gnomefreak: no, archive.ubuntu.com [07:32] when was xchat backported? [07:33] sept 29th [07:33] aug 29th [07:33] Whoopie: your in us? [07:33] germany [07:33] still should default to uk and you should have it already [07:34] ok hold on a sec [07:36] hmmm [07:36] changed to de.archive.ubuntu.com, and no difference [07:37] Whoopie: im assuming you have universe and multiverse enabled? [07:37] yes [07:38] LaserJock: you still here? === gnomefreak not showing any packages as backported but i know there were atleast 2 [07:39] bddebian: did you get my email about adonthell? [07:39] gnomefreak: yeah [07:39] do you know where there is a list of backported packages? [07:39] theres lots of packages backported [07:39] gnomefreak: you have dapper-backports enabled? [07:39] packages.ubuntu dont show them [07:39] i just backported one today infact ;) [07:39] LaserJock: im on edgy but im looking for him [07:40] I thought backports was defunct? [07:40] http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/ [07:40] what I saw is that all backported packages for main are there, but not for universe. But I really checked that I have enabled universe [07:40] Bazzi: no [07:40] welshbyte: they took this out of the packages.ubuntu.com page [07:40] Bazzi: nope [07:41] hm, ok [07:41] I looked here for backported packages: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.changes.dapper [07:41] xchat has not been backported [07:41] gnomefreak: really? the page seems to exist [07:41] gnomefreak: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.changes.dapper/12008 [07:41] welshbyte: it does but if you go to packages.ubuntu.com dapper backports isnt there [07:41] it was backported [07:41] Whoopie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/allpackages.en.txt.gz === gnomefreak like official sites [07:42] oh ok, so it just isn't linked? or it's not kept up-to-date? [07:42] i guess both [07:42] Whoopie: that dosent mean it built successfully or actualy got backpoorted it just means it was accepted [07:42] we dont have a -backports channel that i know of [07:42] arggg === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] it was backported and it built successfully on *all* archs [07:43] guys, this is what Launchpad is for [07:43] imbrandon: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/240427 === doko_ [n=doko@i577B20FA.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] launchpad says it was built successfully [07:43] LaserJock: exactly [07:44] Whoopie: i know i was pointing out the list dosent matter [07:44] LaserJock: just said it better [07:44] imbrandon: ok, sorry. you're right. [07:44] still doesnt mean it was sent to server [07:44] it was built on the 29th === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] so either it is held up somewhere or something happened [07:44] Whoopie: apt-cache madsion xchat [07:45] or madison :) [07:45] xchat | 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages [07:45] xchat | 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources [07:45] xchat | 2.6.6-0ubuntu1~dapper1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/universe Sources [07:45] Whoopie: what does sudo apt-get install xchat give you? [07:46] it's not there [07:46] see its souce only, not built ( or built but not in archive yet ) [07:46] the source seems to be [07:46] the thing to do is to look at Launchpad and archive.ubuntu.com [07:46] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xchat/ [07:46] but ummm [07:46] gnomefreak: that the current version of xchat is installed. [07:46] xchat | 2.6.6-0ubuntu1~dapper1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/universe Sources [07:46] indicates that the source is in the archive but no binaries [07:47] ^^ source ONLY [07:47] that telsl me something happened [07:47] tells* [07:47] its not built on the arcive yet [07:47] arggg [07:47] there is often delay between getting build in Soyuz and hitting the archives === gnomefreak has xchat 2.6.6 adn hates it [07:48] it could be that backported binaries are hung up somewhere [07:48] or need approval or something [07:48] LaserJock: but the packages for main are there, not for universe [07:48] or it could be that something went wrong if newer backports are already in the archives [07:48] Whoopie: what packages for Main? [07:48] Whoopie: use xchat-gnome [07:49] xchat-gnome is just like xchat 2.6.6 [07:49] LaserJock: e.g. debootstrap [07:49] gnomefreak: no, thanks ;) [07:49] Whoopie: backports dont backport main packages iirc [07:49] Whoopie: its the same things looks and menus [07:49] hence the reason i hate xchat 2.6.6 [07:50] backports can be of anthing, I think [07:50] OK: debootstrap_0.3.3.0ubuntu3~dapper1.dsc [07:50] -> Component: main Section: admin [07:50] anyway ..... [07:50] the thing to do is to ping jdong or the archive team to see if it is a problem or not [07:50] it could be it is on it's way [07:50] or it could have gotten stuck or something [07:51] LaserJock: can you do it? don't know how to do it, sorry. [07:52] ah, jdong is on #ubuntu-devel [07:52] yep he just got htere [07:52] i just did [07:53] done === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/58493 [08:04] Malone bug 58493 in Ubuntu "Broken Package: totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin" [Untriaged,Confirmed] === Goshawk [n=vincenzo@d83-176-84-64.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.6.134.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.6.134.92] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === pradeep_ [n=pradeep@59.92.37.62] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] yay https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/profile-memory-management-efficiency [08:23] and hoard is not working >:| it segfaults everything. === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@unaffiliated/lotusleaf] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:13] somerville32: have you dapper-updates for universe enabled? There is a correctly versioned package of totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin included === fowlduck [n=duck@205.213.122.170] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:14] I believe so. [09:15] I guss I should post my source list - just let me clean up dog puke first :( [09:15] *guess === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] O_o [09:15] well I can skip lunch now [09:20] LaserJock: i'm wrong if i say that the merge-o-matic queue is empty? [09:21] kristog: the queue? there are merges still needing to be done for Universe I believe [09:21] 0 outstanding merges [09:22] hmm, I'm not sure what outstanding merges means === kristog too [09:23] I'm pretty sure anything on http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html can be done [09:25] :) [09:25] Yeah, all the NEW and Updated merges can be done [09:26] bddebian: for example: gnomebaker should be updated? === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@lns02-0024.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:28] kristog: Aye, or synced [09:31] I'm having trouble with cdbs debian/rules + debuild -S -sa... http://pastebin.ca/157777 [09:31] and my guess is that it's something foolishly simple... [09:34] ryanakca: Make sure those are tabs and not spaces [09:35] bddebian: they're tabs... unless vim has some wierd tabbing convention/method [09:36] yep... stupid vim [09:36] I changed them to emacs tabs, and it works [09:37] heh [09:37] no, at last stupid vim user ;) [09:37] kristog: yes, stupid for using vim === ryanakca switches back to emacs [09:38] ryanakca: you dont have a space above that line? === ryanakca signs the papers to convert to the religion of emacs [09:38] this was not my point... [09:38] ahahah [09:38] :) [09:38] zul: a space above what line? [09:38] line 14 [09:38] kristog: your point was? [09:39] See, I know something Once in a while :-) [09:39] bddebian: yes === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.208] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] Oh no === bddebian hides [09:40] ryanakca: forget it :) [09:40] bddebian: hiding from me ? [09:40] kristog: O.o ok :) [09:40] AnAnt: Yep ;-) === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] ok [09:41] zul: no, no space above line 14 [09:41] but 'acon' doesn't have a manpage supplied with it, and I dunno how to write manpages, so I dunno what to do [09:42] I solved the other two issues & uploading it now [09:42] AnAnt: Either write one, ask someone to write one, or ignore it :-) [09:42] ok, I will ignore it [09:42] AnAnt: is it a kde app? [09:42] since the acon author isn't replying my email ! [09:43] ignore what ? the manpage or the entire package ? [09:43] AnAnt: in revu they didn't want to advocate until I had written a manpage... it's simple... I'll give you a template and you just have to fill it in :) [09:43] ryanakca: nope, virtual console app. [09:43] ryanakca: ok, thanks a lot ! [09:43] ryanakca: please do [09:44] AnAnt: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/foo.1 [09:44] bddebian: as for KDE, I removed the Replaces: field, kept the Conflicts: filed [09:44] bddebian: now for archmage, I really need to discuss that [09:45] bddebian: what do you by that you only want one changelog entry ? [09:45] AnAnt: what you packaging with? cdbs? [09:45] AnAnt: does the programm have a goog --help output? if yes, then you could try help2man to get a start [09:45] bddebian: I simply cannot remove the entry made by the original author ! isn't that morally incorrect ?! [09:45] s/goog/good/ [09:45] ryanakca: debhelper [09:45] geser: what is good ? [09:46] AnAnt: Meaning that if this is the first time it's in Ubuntu/Debian, the debian/changelog should only say "Initial Release" [09:46] AnAnt: oh [09:46] AnAnt: Isn't there an upstream changelog in the source already? [09:46] I had a typo in my sentence [09:46] geser: I understand, I mean what is a "good" help ? [09:47] good night guys [09:47] bddebian: huh ? [09:47] Gnight dholbach [09:47] is it enough to generate a manpage from it? [09:47] G'night dholbach [09:47] night fellas [09:47] night dholbach [09:47] AnAnt: The changelog file in the debian/ dir is specifically about the Distribution changes, not the source changes [09:48] geser: I'd say so [09:48] AnAnt: The author should have their own changelog file in foo-1.0/ [09:48] bddebian: yes, but the author is the one who originally made the debian/ package too [09:49] bddebian: and I added NOTHING to that packaging he did [09:49] Well that is bad unless they are a.. Nevermind, it's fine then [09:49] bddebian: so I can't remove his entry in changelog, all what I did is changed the version naming to -0ubuntu1 [09:49] bddebian: so you will advocate it ? [09:50] geser: ok, I am getting help2man, thanks [09:51] AnAnt: Sure [09:51] bddebian: thanks ! [09:52] bddebian: ok, you'll need to hide, because I just re-uploaded acon & kchmviewer === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] AnAnt: OK, I'm getting ready to head home so I will try to hit them tonight [09:54] ok [09:56] ping -f bddebian [09:57] bddebian: did you get my email? [09:57] anyone knows of a manpage of several commands ? [09:58] welshbyte: Aye, but I haven't gotten to do it yet.. :-( [09:58] bddebian: ok, no rush :) === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian wishes he was independently wealthy so he could just quit this stupid job and play with Ubuntu stuff :) [10:01] Anyway, time to head home. Later gang [10:01] hehe, cya [10:02] ok, how do I make a
in manpages ? [10:03] line break [10:04] .br [10:04] .BR [10:04] lowercase i think [10:04] wait.. [10:04] yes, lowercase :) [10:05] :) [10:08] thanks [10:23] geser: ok, thanks for the info on help2man [10:23] isn't there a readme2man ? [10:25] Do we have a help2woman? [10:26] hehe [10:27] AnAnt: i don't think the content of the generic readme file would be suitable for a man page, so probably not [10:27] i know there's help2man though [10:27] ah, you already mentioned it :) [10:28] welshbyte: well, the readme that comes with the software is better than the --help output [10:30] well, nevermind [10:30] thanks for the help === redguy [n=mati@adf114.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Stirlitz [n=lukas@83.18.166.18] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] has anyone been playing with firefox2.0 yet? [10:45] I'm trying to make firefox 2.0 use a directory other than ~/.mozilla on my Ubuntu box. I'm running the configure script with the --with-user-appdir=.fox2. Firefox is creating the ~/.fox2 directory but it is still using .mozilla. Is there anything more I should do in order to make it use the .fox2 directory? [10:45] I just don't want the new firefox to mess up my profile... [10:47] redguy: don't bother with it [10:48] redguy: FireFox 2.0 crashes every 10-15 minutes on my system [10:48] redguy: and most of the themes/extensions aren't supported yet [10:48] heh [10:49] ryanakca: that's why I'm afraid it might mess up my profile ;-) [10:49] are you going to be using FF 1.5.0.6? [10:50] if you aren't... just move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.old [10:50] I used FF2.0b2 on my mac, if that's any help (I doubt it) [10:51] LaserJock: your own build? [10:51] no [10:51] can someone please look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3004 ... only thing left is figure out if the image is GPL or not (from what I see)... [10:51] downloaded from mozilla [10:54] firefox 2.0 beta 2 fixes the crashing on every start up among other things [10:55] ive been waiting for iwj to get back from holiday === ajmitch has had very few problems with beta 1 [10:56] beta 1 gave me and loooking at LP alot of others alot of issues so i compiled beta 2 and i no longer have any of the issues [10:56] that and the nvidia drivers from nvidia [10:57] it's currently been open for 10 days, with several windows full of tabs [10:57] probably just as stable as 1.5 for me [10:57] it always gave me the firefox is already running error when tried to open it (no ff process was running ) [10:58] thunderbird did that to me too for a while === Zdra [n=zdra@127.222-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] it's amazing how many users on the forums were so eager to get knot 2 [11:00] why? [11:01] they always love the latest crack [11:01] yes [11:01] but seeing how many of them who were up waiting for the release, getting so anxious about it [11:05] we really ought to have a knot that just doesn't do anything but present a blinking cursor post-grub/lilo [11:05] crimsun: or at least a CLI only knot [11:06] "Now *this* is edgy!" [11:06] hm === ajmitch spots upgrade breakage [11:08] oops [11:08] what package? [11:08] oh, just looked like bashisms in nis maintainer scripts [11:08] probably just a warning === ajmitch should avoid running his python code as root when uninstalled [11:09] this whole bash->dash thing has been interesting === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === b12arr0 [n=b12arr0@68-69-142-138.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:08] Heya gang