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TeePOGit's edubuntu 6.06.112:14
TeePOGwith kubuntu-desktop12:15
pygihighvoltage, poke? :)12:27
pygibddebian, libburn, still working on that :P12:31
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bddebianpygi: You DA MAN :)12:44
pygibddebian, wanna test? :)12:45
pygiI have new toy :)12:45
Burgworkpygi, toy?12:56
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pygiBurgwork, yes, what's wrong with toys? :)12:56
Burgworkno, I want to play with it12:57
pygioki :)12:57
pygisvn co http://libburn-svn.pykix.org libburn12:58
pygicd libburn/trunk12:58
pygibootstrap && ./configure && make12:58
pygicd test/12:58
pygi./libburner --help12:58
pygiand see how to use it :)12:58
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pygio, yes, forgot it :)12:59
bddebian:-(01:00
pygiget one? :)01:00
bddebianYou can buy me one.  Preferably attached to an amd64 machine.. ;-P01:01
pygiBurgwork, how's playing going? :P01:08
Burgworkpygi, mostly working. I will play when I get home01:09
pygiBurgwork, ah,oki, sorry for bothering then :)01:09
Burgworkno worries01:09
pyginight all01:32
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TeePOGmorning02:07
TeePOGwhich usergroup[s]  should a new user belong to, if that user needs to login over the terminal server?02:08
TeePOGthe default user [my own username]  logs in perfectly02:10
TeePOGbut a new user does not02:11
TeePOGit just returns to the ldm login screen02:11
TeePOGerm02:12
TeePOGanyone?02:12
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frog[paR] hey guys, i have a quick question. gnome is installed on my edubuntu installation, but it auto loads the terminal. how can i have it auto load gnome when i boot it up?02:18
TeePOGthis chan is dead, try #ubuntu02:19
frog[paR] thanks02:19
Laser_awaydead?02:20
frog[paR] well does anyone know how to have it auto load gnome? -_-02:21
crimsunwell just because our resident raging ubuntu-aholic MOTU isn't speaking, yes, it's dead.02:21
Laser_awaywhatever02:21
TeePOGi should have said, asleep02:21
Laser_awayfrog[paR] : I don't quite understand what you mean by auto load?02:21
TeePOGsorry02:21
frog[paR] i pmed you laser02:22
crimsunhe wants to have it load gdm instead.02:22
Laser_awayTeePOG: np, and as for your question, I'm not sure either. I'd look at the groups in the Administration->Users & Groups (or some such)02:23
frog[paR] well i am a bit new to linux02:23
frog[paR] how can i just have it load gnome when i boot up the computer instead of going to the terminal02:23
Laser_awayfrog[paR] : I didn't get your pm because you need to have a registered nick02:23
frog[paR] oh ok02:23
frog[paR] well02:23
Laser_awayhere is fine02:23
Laser_awaycrimsun: I think his X isn't working02:24
frog[paR] basically, when i turn on the computer i want it to load gnome instead of going to the terminal02:24
Laser_awaycrimsun: so he gets a tty02:24
frog[paR] i went to remove xfce and i think i removed all my x stuff02:24
TeePOGbut my own username is member of some dozen-odd groups... not much help there, even IF i eliminate the obvious non-possiblilites02:24
frog[paR] if i reinstall x will gnome load?02:24
crimsunfrog[paR] : are you using edubuntu?02:25
crimsun(client)02:25
frog[paR] yes02:25
frog[paR] server i think02:25
frog[paR] edubuntu loads up though02:25
frog[paR] then it goes to terminal02:25
TeePOGahhh02:25
crimsunjust --reinstall x-window-system-core02:25
crimsun(``sudo aptitude reinstall x-window-system-core'')02:25
frog[paR] ok thanks02:25
TeePOGserver means it doesn't install x-windows, doesn't it?02:26
frog[paR] it didnt install any of that02:26
frog[paR] i had to02:26
frog[paR] but i just removed x to get rid of xfce02:26
Laser_awaynot in Edubuntu I don't think02:26
frog[paR] and that must be why02:26
Laser_awayyeah, you need X for gnome02:26
frog[paR] ok02:27
Laser_awayok, heading home, bbl02:28
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LaserJockAmaranth: ping?04:49
bddebianHeya LaserJock04:53
LaserJockhi bddebian04:55
LaserJockbddebian: how's it going?04:56
bddebianOK thanks, you?05:01
AmaranthLaserJock: pong05:06
LaserJockAmaranth: sorry, was afk for a sec05:13
Amaranththat's alright05:13
Amaranthwhat's up>05:13
LaserJockAmaranth: I talked to a DD today who suggested that the training.db should probably be installed to /var/ as it is variable user data05:14
AmaranthLaserJock: Sure but then I can never add more stock training to it.05:14
AmaranthAlready had that idea. :)05:14
LaserJockahh, yes05:14
AmaranthThe real solution is using 2 DB files, one on /usr/share and one in /var05:15
LaserJockI see05:15
LaserJockthat makes sense05:15
LaserJockAmaranth: do you have a guess as to how hard that would be?05:21
Amaranthnot really05:21
Amaranthi hope to poke at it a bit this weekend05:21
LaserJockI haven't dealt with sqlite05:21
LaserJockah that would be cool05:21
LaserJockthe guy who did the qt port (Robert Day, I think he emailed you at some point) was able to get the content filter to work (getting that import in the bayesian.py)05:22
LaserJockAmaranth: so is the database issue the remaining problem?05:25
Amaranthyeah05:25
Amaranthi never got an email from him05:25
LaserJockhmm05:25
LaserJockI wonder if he sent it to the wrong email or something05:26
Amaranthis he ever on IRC?05:27
LaserJocknot in here05:27
LaserJockbut yeah, he is rkd05:27
LaserJockAmaranth: he's in the UK so probably in bed now05:28
Amaranthhmm05:28
Amaranthnot for long? :)05:28
Amaranthalthough i expect to be sleeping soon05:29
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LaserJockI'm also working on the packaging to put the qt port in the willowng source package while disturbing as little as possible05:30
Amaranthheh05:30
Amaranthdoes the qt version add it's stuff to the distutils script?05:30
LaserJockbasically it's just a willowng-config-kde script plus a different .desktop05:30
LaserJockAmaranth: I'll send you a debdiff when I get it cleaned up a bit05:31
Amaranthalright, cool05:31
LaserJockI hope you don't mind too much05:32
LaserJockI dislike mucking around in other people's packages05:32
Amaranthplease, feel free to work on my packages :)05:32
Amaranthbtw, geany is the best IDE i've ever seen </random>05:32
Amaranthit's got an intellisense kind of thing and has the classes, functions, variables, and methods in a pane on the left side, click on them and you jump to the line they're defined on05:33
LaserJockcool, is it in Ubuntu?05:39
Amaranthyeah, it showed up in New Packages today05:39
Amaranththat's how i found it05:39
Amaranthhmm, i'm thinking a tangoized castle gate would be a good icon for willowng05:40
LaserJockoh nice05:42
LaserJockbtw, I think willowng will be a "killer app" for many people05:42
LaserJockI've been trying to play around with trying to have an easy to use filter via dansguardian-tinyproxy-firehol05:43
AmaranthI'm going to have to port it to windows. :)05:43
LaserJockoh man, people would love you05:43
AmaranthI hooked my cable up to my uncle's computer, 3 days later he caught his 11 year old looking at porn. :P05:43
AmaranthRight now I have some program that makes you type in a password when any program tries to access port 80 outgoing05:44
LaserJockthe few people I've talked to about willowng were really excited05:44
Amaranthyay for something non-trivial to put on a resume(pretend it has the accent) :)05:44
LaserJockheh05:45
LaserJockhmm, there still remains the "kids can just turn off the proxy" issue05:45
LaserJockI wonder if there is an easy workaround for now05:45
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Amaranthyeah, but the idea is to set gconf and debconf proxy keys then lock out port 8005:45
Amaranthso you use the proxy or you don't get web05:46
AmaranthFor Windows I'd have to rely on the kids not knowing how to disable the proxy, which isn't a problem with my target audience. :)05:46
LaserJockmhm05:47
LaserJockok, I gotta be afk for a little bit05:47
Amaranthalright05:47
LaserJockthanks for the help, keep on truckin' :-)05:47
Amaranthi'll either be up all night hacking or sleeping soon :)05:47
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TeePOGmorning09:40
TeePOGcan anyone tell me the following: If I add a new user to 09:41
TeePOG*Edubuntu, which usergroups should they belong to in order to be able to login over the terminal server?09:41
TeePOGerm09:53
TeePOGnot all at once huh?09:53
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pygihello all11:29
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pygihey Burgundavia && ogra12:44
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spaceyanyone using acl here?03:08
pygihighvoltage, poke? :)03:08
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pygihey ho cbx33 04:54
cbx33hiya dude04:55
cbx33howz Mr pygi 04:55
pygifantastic :)04:55
pygiwhat about you?04:55
cbx33yeh going really well04:56
cbx33compiling cedega at the mo04:56
cbx33:D04:56
cbx33but I'm also working on a patch for Pessulus later04:56
cbx33I hope I get it done in time04:57
cbx33I've been talking a lot with vuntz04:57
cbx33he's been helping me out a lot04:57
pygi:)04:57
pyginice :)04:57
cbx33unfortunately goption has no python docs at all04:57
cbx33and vuntz wanted me to use it04:57
cbx33so I had to use the C docs instead04:57
pygiSaw it :)04:57
cbx33ahh05:09
cbx33planet?05:09
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bddebianHowdy06:02
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cbx333Hi LaserJock 11:57
LaserJockhi cbx333 11:57
cbx33grrrr11:57
cbx33gconf is doing my nut !11:58
cbx33i managed to get it working great apart from one thing11:58
pygicbx33, :)11:58
cbx33when it's run as sudo and keys it creates 11:58
cbx33all keys with ownership as root11:58
cbx33and mode 70011:58
cbx33so the user can't even read them11:59
cbx33and hence it is well and truly broken11:59
cbx33oh bugger, I though I had it and it was plain sailing :(12:01
cbx33now I can see why sabayon does some strange crap with copying files around12:01
cbx33ping ogra 12:13

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