[12:14] <TeePOG> it's edubuntu 6.06.1
[12:15] <TeePOG> with kubuntu-desktop
[12:27] <pygi> highvoltage, poke? :)
[12:31] <pygi> bddebian, libburn, still working on that :P
[12:44] <bddebian> pygi: You DA MAN :)
[12:45] <pygi> bddebian, wanna test? :)
[12:45] <pygi> I have new toy :)
[12:56] <Burgwork> pygi, toy?
[12:56] <pygi> Burgwork, yes, what's wrong with toys? :)
[12:57] <Burgwork> no, I want to play with it
[12:57] <pygi> oki :)
[12:58] <pygi> svn co http://libburn-svn.pykix.org libburn
[12:58] <pygi> cd libburn/trunk
[12:58] <pygi> bootstrap && ./configure && make
[12:58] <pygi> cd test/
[12:58] <pygi> ./libburner --help
[12:58] <pygi> and see how to use it :)
[12:59] <pygi> o, yes, forgot it :)
[01:00] <bddebian> :-(
[01:00] <pygi> get one? :)
[01:01] <bddebian> You can buy me one.  Preferably attached to an amd64 machine.. ;-P
[01:08] <pygi> Burgwork, how's playing going? :P
[01:09] <Burgwork> pygi, mostly working. I will play when I get home
[01:09] <pygi> Burgwork, ah,oki, sorry for bothering then :)
[01:09] <Burgwork> no worries
[01:32] <pygi> night all
[02:07] <TeePOG> morning
[02:08] <TeePOG> which usergroup[s]  should a new user belong to, if that user needs to login over the terminal server?
[02:10] <TeePOG> the default user [my own username]  logs in perfectly
[02:11] <TeePOG> but a new user does not
[02:11] <TeePOG> it just returns to the ldm login screen
[02:12] <TeePOG> erm
[02:12] <TeePOG> anyone?
[02:18] <frog[paR] > hey guys, i have a quick question. gnome is installed on my edubuntu installation, but it auto loads the terminal. how can i have it auto load gnome when i boot it up?
[02:19] <TeePOG> this chan is dead, try #ubuntu
[02:19] <frog[paR] > thanks
[02:20] <Laser_away> dead?
[02:21] <frog[paR] > well does anyone know how to have it auto load gnome? -_-
[02:21] <crimsun> well just because our resident raging ubuntu-aholic MOTU isn't speaking, yes, it's dead.
[02:21] <Laser_away> whatever
[02:21] <TeePOG> i should have said, asleep
[02:21] <Laser_away> frog[paR] : I don't quite understand what you mean by auto load?
[02:21] <TeePOG> sorry
[02:22] <frog[paR] > i pmed you laser
[02:22] <crimsun> he wants to have it load gdm instead.
[02:23] <Laser_away> TeePOG: np, and as for your question, I'm not sure either. I'd look at the groups in the Administration->Users & Groups (or some such)
[02:23] <frog[paR] > well i am a bit new to linux
[02:23] <frog[paR] > how can i just have it load gnome when i boot up the computer instead of going to the terminal
[02:23] <Laser_away> frog[paR] : I didn't get your pm because you need to have a registered nick
[02:23] <frog[paR] > oh ok
[02:23] <frog[paR] > well
[02:23] <Laser_away> here is fine
[02:24] <Laser_away> crimsun: I think his X isn't working
[02:24] <frog[paR] > basically, when i turn on the computer i want it to load gnome instead of going to the terminal
[02:24] <Laser_away> crimsun: so he gets a tty
[02:24] <frog[paR] > i went to remove xfce and i think i removed all my x stuff
[02:24] <TeePOG> but my own username is member of some dozen-odd groups... not much help there, even IF i eliminate the obvious non-possiblilites
[02:24] <frog[paR] > if i reinstall x will gnome load?
[02:25] <crimsun> frog[paR] : are you using edubuntu?
[02:25] <crimsun> (client)
[02:25] <frog[paR] > yes
[02:25] <frog[paR] > server i think
[02:25] <frog[paR] > edubuntu loads up though
[02:25] <frog[paR] > then it goes to terminal
[02:25] <TeePOG> ahhh
[02:25] <crimsun> just --reinstall x-window-system-core
[02:25] <crimsun> (``sudo aptitude reinstall x-window-system-core'')
[02:25] <frog[paR] > ok thanks
[02:26] <TeePOG> server means it doesn't install x-windows, doesn't it?
[02:26] <frog[paR] > it didnt install any of that
[02:26] <frog[paR] > i had to
[02:26] <frog[paR] > but i just removed x to get rid of xfce
[02:26] <Laser_away> not in Edubuntu I don't think
[02:26] <frog[paR] > and that must be why
[02:26] <Laser_away> yeah, you need X for gnome
[02:27] <frog[paR] > ok
[02:28] <Laser_away> ok, heading home, bbl
[04:49] <LaserJock> Amaranth: ping?
[04:53] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[04:55] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[04:56] <LaserJock> bddebian: how's it going?
[05:01] <bddebian> OK thanks, you?
[05:06] <Amaranth> LaserJock: pong
[05:13] <LaserJock> Amaranth: sorry, was afk for a sec
[05:13] <Amaranth> that's alright
[05:13] <Amaranth> what's up>
[05:14] <LaserJock> Amaranth: I talked to a DD today who suggested that the training.db should probably be installed to /var/ as it is variable user data
[05:14] <Amaranth> LaserJock: Sure but then I can never add more stock training to it.
[05:14] <Amaranth> Already had that idea. :)
[05:14] <LaserJock> ahh, yes
[05:15] <Amaranth> The real solution is using 2 DB files, one on /usr/share and one in /var
[05:15] <LaserJock> I see
[05:15] <LaserJock> that makes sense
[05:21] <LaserJock> Amaranth: do you have a guess as to how hard that would be?
[05:21] <Amaranth> not really
[05:21] <Amaranth> i hope to poke at it a bit this weekend
[05:21] <LaserJock> I haven't dealt with sqlite
[05:21] <LaserJock> ah that would be cool
[05:22] <LaserJock> the guy who did the qt port (Robert Day, I think he emailed you at some point) was able to get the content filter to work (getting that import in the bayesian.py)
[05:25] <LaserJock> Amaranth: so is the database issue the remaining problem?
[05:25] <Amaranth> yeah
[05:25] <Amaranth> i never got an email from him
[05:25] <LaserJock> hmm
[05:26] <LaserJock> I wonder if he sent it to the wrong email or something
[05:27] <Amaranth> is he ever on IRC?
[05:27] <LaserJock> not in here
[05:27] <LaserJock> but yeah, he is rkd
[05:28] <LaserJock> Amaranth: he's in the UK so probably in bed now
[05:28] <Amaranth> hmm
[05:28] <Amaranth> not for long? :)
[05:29] <Amaranth> although i expect to be sleeping soon
[05:30] <LaserJock> I'm also working on the packaging to put the qt port in the willowng source package while disturbing as little as possible
[05:30] <Amaranth> heh
[05:30] <Amaranth> does the qt version add it's stuff to the distutils script?
[05:30] <LaserJock> basically it's just a willowng-config-kde script plus a different .desktop
[05:31] <LaserJock> Amaranth: I'll send you a debdiff when I get it cleaned up a bit
[05:31] <Amaranth> alright, cool
[05:32] <LaserJock> I hope you don't mind too much
[05:32] <LaserJock> I dislike mucking around in other people's packages
[05:32] <Amaranth> please, feel free to work on my packages :)
[05:32] <Amaranth> btw, geany is the best IDE i've ever seen </random>
[05:33] <Amaranth> it's got an intellisense kind of thing and has the classes, functions, variables, and methods in a pane on the left side, click on them and you jump to the line they're defined on
[05:39] <LaserJock> cool, is it in Ubuntu?
[05:39] <Amaranth> yeah, it showed up in New Packages today
[05:39] <Amaranth> that's how i found it
[05:40] <Amaranth> hmm, i'm thinking a tangoized castle gate would be a good icon for willowng
[05:42] <LaserJock> oh nice
[05:42] <LaserJock> btw, I think willowng will be a "killer app" for many people
[05:43] <LaserJock> I've been trying to play around with trying to have an easy to use filter via dansguardian-tinyproxy-firehol
[05:43] <Amaranth> I'm going to have to port it to windows. :)
[05:43] <LaserJock> oh man, people would love you
[05:43] <Amaranth> I hooked my cable up to my uncle's computer, 3 days later he caught his 11 year old looking at porn. :P
[05:44] <Amaranth> Right now I have some program that makes you type in a password when any program tries to access port 80 outgoing
[05:44] <LaserJock> the few people I've talked to about willowng were really excited
[05:44] <Amaranth> yay for something non-trivial to put on a resume(pretend it has the accent) :)
[05:45] <LaserJock> heh
[05:45] <LaserJock> hmm, there still remains the "kids can just turn off the proxy" issue
[05:45] <LaserJock> I wonder if there is an easy workaround for now
[05:45] <Amaranth> yeah, but the idea is to set gconf and debconf proxy keys then lock out port 80
[05:46] <Amaranth> so you use the proxy or you don't get web
[05:46] <Amaranth> For Windows I'd have to rely on the kids not knowing how to disable the proxy, which isn't a problem with my target audience. :)
[05:47] <LaserJock> mhm
[05:47] <LaserJock> ok, I gotta be afk for a little bit
[05:47] <Amaranth> alright
[05:47] <LaserJock> thanks for the help, keep on truckin' :-)
[05:47] <Amaranth> i'll either be up all night hacking or sleeping soon :)
[09:40] <TeePOG> morning
[09:41] <TeePOG> can anyone tell me the following: If I add a new user to 
[09:41] <TeePOG> *Edubuntu, which usergroups should they belong to in order to be able to login over the terminal server?
[09:53] <TeePOG> erm
[09:53] <TeePOG> not all at once huh?
[11:29] <pygi> hello all
[12:44] <pygi> hey Burgundavia && ogra
[03:08] <spacey> anyone using acl here?
[03:08] <pygi> highvoltage, poke? :)
[04:54] <pygi> hey ho cbx33 
[04:55] <cbx33> hiya dude
[04:55] <cbx33> howz Mr pygi 
[04:55] <pygi> fantastic :)
[04:55] <pygi> what about you?
[04:56] <cbx33> yeh going really well
[04:56] <cbx33> compiling cedega at the mo
[04:56] <cbx33> :D
[04:56] <cbx33> but I'm also working on a patch for Pessulus later
[04:57] <cbx33> I hope I get it done in time
[04:57] <cbx33> I've been talking a lot with vuntz
[04:57] <cbx33> he's been helping me out a lot
[04:57] <pygi> :)
[04:57] <pygi> nice :)
[04:57] <cbx33> unfortunately goption has no python docs at all
[04:57] <cbx33> and vuntz wanted me to use it
[04:57] <cbx33> so I had to use the C docs instead
[04:57] <pygi> Saw it :)
[05:09] <cbx33> ahh
[05:09] <cbx33> planet?
[06:02] <bddebian> Howdy
[11:57] <cbx333> Hi LaserJock 
[11:57] <LaserJock> hi cbx333 
[11:57] <cbx33> grrrr
[11:58] <cbx33> gconf is doing my nut !
[11:58] <cbx33> i managed to get it working great apart from one thing
[11:58] <pygi> cbx33, :)
[11:58] <cbx33> when it's run as sudo and keys it creates 
[11:58] <cbx33> all keys with ownership as root
[11:58] <cbx33> and mode 700
[11:59] <cbx33> so the user can't even read them
[11:59] <cbx33> and hence it is well and truly broken
[12:01] <cbx33> oh bugger, I though I had it and it was plain sailing :(
[12:01] <cbx33> now I can see why sabayon does some strange crap with copying files around
[12:13] <cbx33> ping ogra