| theCore | does specifications are only for projects maintainers, or for anyone that have a feature idea to share? | 12:20 |
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| flacoste | theCore: anyone that have feature idea can and should add a spec | 12:25 |
| theCore | flacoste: thanks, that's what I thought | 12:26 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #58526 in rosetta "Missing upstream translations for koffice in edgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58526 | 01:05 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #58548 in rosetta "Upstream translations for amarok not imported to Rosetta" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58548 | 11:46 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #58556 in rosetta "New upstream translations of k3b not imported to Rosetta" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58556 | 12:20 |
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| teolemon | is there anyone here atm involved in rosetta imports ? | 01:27 |
| Kuhrscher | I post hundrets of bugs ;-) | 01:27 |
| mdke | teolemon: jordi is. | 01:35 |
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| jordi | hello | 01:37 |
| teolemon | hi jordi | 01:39 |
| teolemon | sorry for the delay | 01:40 |
| teolemon | Mick has uploaded the files for ClamWin | 01:40 |
| jordi | no probs! | 01:40 |
| teolemon | in the regular project | 01:40 |
| jordi | oh, clamwin | 01:40 |
| jordi | I was going to get back to you on monday | 01:40 |
| teolemon | so you can delete clamwin-fr | 01:40 |
| jordi | but if you're here, let's have a look,. | 01:40 |
| jordi | can you file a bug against launchpad to get clamwin-fr deleted/deactivated? | 01:41 |
| teolemon | ok | 01:41 |
| jordi | say you're the person who registered and it's not useful anymore | 01:41 |
| teolemon | done | 01:43 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #58565 in launchpad "clamwin-fr and foo-cw can be deleted" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58565 | 01:50 |
| teolemon | jordi, how much time would you say rosetta roughly needs to "digest" the translations? | 02:48 |
| jordi | teolemon: dependso n how busy the queue is | 02:49 |
| jordi | I'm not sure about now | 02:49 |
| jordi | I'll do the import now, sorry I was caught doing other things | 02:49 |
| teolemon | ah ok | 02:49 |
| jordi | should be pretty quick | 02:50 |
| teolemon | i thought it was due to a latency in the system | 02:50 |
| jordi | so is upstream moving to rosetta entirely? | 02:50 |
| teolemon | just like the mails | 02:50 |
| jordi | latency in my brain :) | 02:50 |
| teolemon | if it works well yes | 02:50 |
| teolemon | mick has said yes as we're still testing translations | 02:50 |
| teolemon | it's not in main | 02:51 |
| teolemon | it's a branch fro now | 02:51 |
| teolemon | for | 02:51 |
| teolemon | we'll merge it once it's stable | 02:51 |
| teolemon | on the other hand we will be only using rosetta | 02:51 |
| jordi | oh wow | 02:52 |
| jordi | there are a zillion different templates? | 02:52 |
| teolemon | yup we are considering merging them | 02:53 |
| jordi | 13, but anyway :) | 02:53 |
| teolemon | kleankoder is working on it | 02:53 |
| teolemon | unlucky number | 02:53 |
| jordi | if it's going to be merged, it's wise to wait until it's done | 02:54 |
| teolemon | not in the near future | 02:54 |
| jordi | oh | 02:54 |
| jordi | righ | 02:54 |
| teolemon | i've just emitted the idea yesterday | 02:55 |
| teolemon | we're still fighting with on-access scanning | 02:55 |
| teolemon | which is a much wanted feature | 02:55 |
| teolemon | and we lack coders :-( | 02:55 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #58579 in rosetta "no kopete translations in edgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58579 | 02:56 |
| teolemon | Do guidelines for translators exist, a how-to we could link to ? | 03:06 |
| teolemon | i think the brazilian team has made smg | 03:07 |
| teolemon | but it's ... in portuguese | 03:07 |
| teolemon | Portugues | 03:07 |
| teolemon | damn | 03:07 |
| teolemon | Portuguese | 03:07 |
| teolemon | it was from Og i think | 03:10 |
| teolemon | and it's in English | 03:11 |
| teolemon | good | 03:11 |
| jordi | smg? | 03:22 |
| teolemon | what does smg stands for ? | 03:24 |
| teolemon | something ? | 03:24 |
| jordi | oh, something | 03:25 |
| jordi | I had no idea | 03:25 |
| jordi | :) | 03:25 |
| jordi | teolemon: are there translations already done? | 03:27 |
| teolemon | yup | 03:27 |
| jordi | if so, they should have been uploaded too | 03:27 |
| teolemon | fr_Fr and nl_BE | 03:27 |
| jordi | so rosetta can import them | 03:27 |
| teolemon | i though each transltor could upload translations afterwards | 03:27 |
| teolemon | wait a second | 03:28 |
| teolemon | opening #clamwin | 03:28 |
| jordi | they can | 03:28 |
| jordi | but if we upload them at once now, we will have them in from the very first moment | 03:29 |
| jordi | and this will avoid fragmentation | 03:29 |
| teolemon | ok | 03:29 |
| teolemon | Mick doesn't seem to be online right now, i guess we'll have to wait | 03:30 |
| jordi | ok | 03:31 |
| jordi | I'll probably be away until monday | 03:31 |
| teolemon | basically, everything available is here http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/clamwin/branches/i18n/clamwin/po/ | 03:31 |
| jordi | aha | 03:31 |
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| teolemon | i sent you and Mick tared files of fr_FR and nl_BE | 03:39 |
| teolemon | taredgzed to be precise ;-) | 03:39 |
| jordi | got it | 03:41 |
| teolemon | in fact i would like to get it done today because I've got a bunch of hyper important things next week for school. | 03:43 |
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| asabil | hello again | 03:43 |
| teolemon | hopefully mick will be back in a couple of hours | 03:43 |
| jordi | ok | 03:43 |
| asabil | sftp / http sync problem again ? | 03:43 |
| asabil | for bzr | 03:43 |
| jordi | teolemon: understand this is my weekend, I'll try to get it done today, but I can't promise | 03:44 |
| jordi | I need to get food now | 03:44 |
| teolemon | sorry | 03:44 |
| teolemon | yes | 03:44 |
| teolemon | i'm in vacations | 03:44 |
| teolemon | i didn't realize | 03:44 |
| jordi | lucky ;) | 03:44 |
| jordi | don't worry, I'll try my best | 03:44 |
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| teolemon | re | 05:02 |
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| nictuku | hi | 06:46 |
| nictuku | when trying to upload a crash report of ~15mb, launchpad gives a 500 internal server error message | 06:47 |
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| mick_home | hi, i'd like to ask that someone (whoever is leading LP) joins openusability.org | 06:52 |
| mick_home | I'm having issues being able to figure out this system, and I'm a developer (I'm not an idiot by any means) | 06:53 |
| mick_home | also, the restriction for "you must use a lowercase letter as the first letter of a team name" should be taken away | 06:53 |
| mick_home | this should be handled on the backend | 06:54 |
| mick_home | just always lowercase the input | 06:54 |
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| mick_home | i just typed in the name of the "driver" - which is "Clamwin-l10n-team" for this particular project, and it didn't like what i typed in... the dropdown says "Clamwin-l10n-team" | 06:55 |
| mick_home | my guess is that it displays things w/ something like ucfirst() - but it is looking for a case sensitive word | 06:56 |
| nictuku | mick_home, if no one answers you here, I suggest you file a bug to 'launchpad' with your suggestions | 07:01 |
| nictuku | though I'm not sure that is the best way to get their attention | 07:01 |
| mick_home | it needs a major overhaul in regards to usability IMO | 07:02 |
| mick_home | i honestly feel like a moron - since teolemon is telling me where to look for simple things like ACL-type stuff | 07:03 |
| BjornT | nictuku: when you got the 500 message, you should have gotten an OOPS id. if you give me that id i can take a look at what's wrong. | 07:04 |
| mick_home | well, i wish you guys the best of luck w/ LP | 07:04 |
| nictuku | BjornT, I closed the window already, but I don't think I got that. I'll try again | 07:05 |
| BjornT | mick_home: right, it's a bit confusing, we have two concepts of name in launchpad. one is a unique identifier, which is useful when you want to uniquely identify something. the other name is a display name, which is a nicer textual representation than what the unique name is. | 07:06 |
| mick_home | when i tried to select the dropdown name, i got a popup w/ a search | 07:07 |
| BjornT | mick_home: if you have concrete suggestions for how to improve things, i suggest filing bugs for each concrete thing. for more general suggestion, it's probably best to send an email to launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com | 07:07 |
| mick_home | which i also found a bit weird :) | 07:08 |
| BjornT | hmm, yeah, that's strange :) | 07:08 |
| mick_home | nah, i'll harass teolemon w/ those questions | 07:08 |
| mick_home | i'll be honest - i have a bunch of concrete examples where I think things could be easier (from a usability point of view) | 07:09 |
| mick_home | but I don't have the time to fill out bug reports for each | 07:09 |
| mick_home | i have a lot of OSS that i work on already | 07:09 |
| mick_home | i'll try to help where i can though | 07:10 |
| mick_home | i also don't like the concept of reviewing each upload | 07:11 |
| mick_home | i understand the need to check things, but that makes for double the work | 07:11 |
| mick_home | most things can be done programatically | 07:11 |
| BjornT | mick_home: well, if you do find time, usability suggestions are always welcome. | 07:11 |
| BjornT | mick_home: are you talking about uploading po files? | 07:12 |
| mick_home | lets say a projects uploads 4 translations, they should be grouped differently than the others -- since if they got 1-4 correct then 5-10 will most likely be ok too | 07:12 |
| mick_home | BjornT, yes | 07:12 |
| mick_home | in my experience working with translators, people like to see things "now" | 07:13 |
| mick_home | in the case of clamwin, we check the translations before they get uploaded | 07:14 |
| BjornT | mick_home: ok, i don't know much about how that works. it's something to bring up with carlos, danilos or jordi. | 07:14 |
| mick_home | so having them checked again, just makes for more work for you guys (IMO) | 07:14 |
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| mick_home | teolemon, if you get a chance (when you talk to jordi) -- can you bring that up ;) | 07:15 |
| mick_home | ah - hello jordi | 07:15 |
| mick_home | jordi, i was just talking about the uploads of translations | 07:16 |
| jordi | as for checking, this kind of holding the translations normally only happens the first time you upload a file | 07:18 |
| jordi | it's done like this for "security" reasons, to avoid random people uploading clamwin translations to rosetta, which you'll learn about 3 months later | 07:19 |
| jordi | mick_home: I was telling teolemon that having one template would be so much better than 13 differnt ones | 07:19 |
| teolemon | yup i've talked to kleankoder about that | 07:20 |
| mick_home | well it is always the same file w/ just that one translation per | 07:20 |
| jordi | SteveA: wow, that was quick :) | 07:20 |
| jordi | mick_home, sorry? | 07:21 |
| mick_home | nm | 07:21 |
| jordi | I didn't get that last bit | 07:21 |
| jordi | ok | 07:21 |
| jordi | if you guys want, I can upload these 13 templates + files | 07:21 |
| mick_home | i need to get back to what i was doing, thanks for the help and good luck w/ LP | 07:21 |
| jordi | but it's a pita | 07:21 |
| jordi | laters mick | 07:21 |
| jordi | telyou tell me what to do. Uploading 13 templatyes will take a while. I'll have to process 39 files | 07:23 |
| teolemon | if you have time do it, but if it bothers you on your rest day, don't bother | 07:24 |
| teolemon | i'll be able to wait until thurday ;-) | 07:24 |
| jordi | I can do it on monday | 07:24 |
| jordi | but I stress that having one template is better for everyone: maintainers, translators and... rosetta people :) | 07:25 |
| teolemon | yes, definitely. | 07:25 |
| teolemon | I'll harass kleankoder about it | 07:25 |
| teolemon | regularly | 07:25 |
| teolemon | if he gets online before monday, i'll ask him the time he needs to do it | 07:26 |
| teolemon | if it's reasonable, we'll hold things | 07:26 |
| jordi | okay | 07:27 |
| jordi | if it's too much owrk or won't be done early, we'll do 13 files | 07:27 |
| teolemon | a funny fact about ClamWin: most of us run Linux while we work to produce an antivirus to make Windows bearable for ppl ;-) | 07:29 |
| teolemon | it's kind of vicious | 07:29 |
| jordi | heh | 07:30 |
| teolemon | i have to go back to my revisions | 07:32 |
| teolemon | have a nice day/evening everybody | 07:32 |
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