| kwwii_ | ngith all | 01:00 |
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| kwwii_ | erm | 01:00 |
| kwwii_ | night all | 01:00 |
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| Seveas | troy_s, I now have usplash on 1024x768x256 with a .png progressbar which can also pulsate (may be required soon). Now all I have to do is implement BOGL font handling for the svga part and all the usplash crack I can think of is there | 03:29 |
| Seveas | I hope mjg59 accepts most of it ;) | 03:29 |
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| kwwii_ | moin | 10:40 |
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| sladen | Seveas: pulsate? :) | 12:04 |
| Seveas | sladen, crappy video: http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/usplash.avi | 12:05 |
| Seveas | you can't see it but the progressbar is also a .png | 12:07 |
| sladen | ACCESS DENIED | 12:08 |
| sladen | Seveas: chmod o+r usplash.avi | 12:08 |
| Seveas | damn scp | 12:09 |
| Seveas | how do I make scp take UMASK into account on the remote machine? | 12:09 |
| Seveas | (it's readable now btw) | 12:09 |
| kwwii_ | wow, now that is a screenshot | 12:12 |
| Seveas | btw: I hate ati | 12:13 |
| Seveas | too many modeswitches and my machine hangs | 12:13 |
| Seveas | and unfortunately usplash testing involves modechanges | 12:13 |
| Seveas | sladen, looks pretty decent, eh (apart from the general crappyness of the video) ;) | 12:17 |
| sladen | Seveas: scp -p usplash.avi seveas@machine.example.com:public_html | 12:18 |
| Seveas | hmm, it never occured to me to use -p for that | 12:18 |
| Seveas | thanks! | 12:18 |
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| troy_s | seveas you rock | 01:23 |
| PingunZ | Why is that troy_s ? | 01:25 |
| troy_s | usplash stuff. | 01:25 |
| PingunZ | Is it working ? | 01:25 |
| PingunZ | the high res + high color ? | 01:25 |
| Seveas | PingunZ, only i386+amd64 | 01:27 |
| PingunZ | I have i386 | 01:27 |
| PingunZ | And edgy so it should work .. | 01:27 |
| PingunZ | How can i test it and what shoudl I do ? | 01:27 |
| Seveas | it works on dapper too ;) (I'm still on dapper) | 01:27 |
| Seveas | You can't test yet | 01:28 |
| Seveas | I want to implement one more required thing | 01:28 |
| PingunZ | Well, pro's like you guys need stability :) | 01:28 |
| PingunZ | Ok, let us know when we can test it and how to make smashing usplash' :) | 01:28 |
| PingunZ | Seveas: Will it be included in Edgy ? | 01:29 |
| Seveas | PingunZ, I hope so | 01:29 |
| === PingunZ too | ||
| Seveas | it depends on having a ppc implementation | 01:29 |
| PingunZ | I hope you succeed | 01:30 |
| PingunZ | Btw, Will it be hard to make a usplash with a custom throbber ? | 01:30 |
| troy_s | seveas | 01:31 |
| troy_s | do you happen to know the specs basically? | 01:32 |
| troy_s | and don't hate ati | 01:32 |
| Seveas | PingunZ, no it isn't | 01:32 |
| troy_s | apparently AMD is going to open source a limited set of their cards now that they own them | 01:32 |
| PingunZ | omg Seveas you're a god :) | 01:32 |
| Seveas | troy_s, I know the specs -- I implemented it ;) | 01:32 |
| troy_s | believe it or not. :) | 01:32 |
| troy_s | laf. | 01:32 |
| troy_s | well... enlighten me | 01:32 |
| PingunZ | * us :) | 01:33 |
| troy_s | did you see msikma's usplash mock? | 01:33 |
| troy_s | i originally planned to use a spotlight approach, and your additions make it feasible it appears. | 01:33 |
| Seveas | troy_s, yes, themes can include custom animations | 01:33 |
| Seveas | but they have to be programmed, just like custom throbbers | 01:34 |
| Seveas | and all frames need to use the exact same pallette | 01:35 |
| troy_s | hrm... | 01:35 |
| troy_s | do you have a code snippit? | 01:35 |
| troy_s | palette mapping is dead easy for me since i have become an imagemagick zealot | 01:35 |
| troy_s | that set of tools is bloody remarkable. | 01:36 |
| Seveas | basically, a function is called 25 times a second to let you draw the next 'frame' | 01:36 |
| troy_s | and you use what to draw the frame? svgalib? | 01:37 |
| Seveas | svgalib on i386/amd64, bogl on ppc | 01:37 |
| troy_s | wow... the possibilities are quite massive on that. | 01:37 |
| Seveas | but with platform-agnostic wrappers | 01:37 |
| troy_s | are there any limits on the frames etc? | 01:37 |
| Seveas | 256 colors | 01:37 |
| troy_s | numerically speaking | 01:37 |
| troy_s | 256 is no limit really -- unless you are a die hard grad freak. | 01:38 |
| Seveas | I have a very decent 256 color splash | 01:38 |
| Seveas | see that movie I posted | 01:38 |
| Seveas | http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/usplash.avi | 01:38 |
| troy_s | yes i checked it out... | 01:38 |
| Seveas | movie itself is crap, but it shows some possibilities | 01:38 |
| troy_s | so the progress bar is ??? | 01:38 |
| troy_s | is that progress bar a variation on the 25fps function? | 01:39 |
| troy_s | or a sep issue? | 01:39 |
| troy_s | could you email me the code snippit so I could peep at it and possibly get a working usplash for your code? | 01:39 |
| Seveas | the progress bar is inside the 25fps function | 01:40 |
| Seveas | that function gets as argument whether the thing is pulsating or not | 01:41 |
| Seveas | but font unification first, then I'll send code ;) | 01:41 |
| troy_s | i don't want the code code, just the code for the function so i can wrap my head around it. | 01:42 |
| troy_s | and by pulsating, i couldn't quite get what you mean from your vid. | 01:42 |
| troy_s | slick looking though... very slick. | 01:43 |
| Seveas | with pulsating I mean the thing moving from left to right and back | 01:45 |
| troy_s | ahh i see... of course we could do any number of things... does that progress bar in your sample consist of only the | 01:47 |
| troy_s | image area? | 01:47 |
| troy_s | or is it a smaller box that is moved | 01:47 |
| troy_s | etc? | 01:47 |
| Seveas | it is a part of an image rendered again every step | 01:47 |
| Seveas | every time a different part of the image | 01:48 |
| troy_s | same dimensions no doubt? | 01:48 |
| Seveas | yes, same dimensions | 01:48 |
| troy_s | ahh great. | 01:48 |
| PingunZ | Seveas: So It'll be 1280*1024 && 256 colors ? | 01:48 |
| troy_s | well i must sleep. just got in from work and need to hit the GDM stone tomorrow to finish up the other variation | 01:49 |
| troy_s | bloody dox for gdm are rather limited. | 01:49 |
| Seveas | PingunZ, my idea is 640x400x256 default, but making it asy (and providing the themes) to use a higher resolution | 01:49 |
| Seveas | my display can't use 1280x1024 for instance | 01:50 |
| troy_s | 640x400@8bpp is pretty bloody good. | 01:50 |
| troy_s | compared to where we are at | 01:50 |
| troy_s | especially if it abides by the ubuntu 'no touch kernel' approach. | 01:50 |
| Seveas | indeed | 01:50 |
| Seveas | and it's all in userspace | 01:50 |
| troy_s | how swell is that... | 01:51 |
| troy_s | who is responsible for the approval on usplash? | 01:52 |
| Seveas | mjg59 has to accept my patches into his source | 01:52 |
| Seveas | I've e-mailed him about ot, but no response yet | 01:52 |
| troy_s | is this in conjuntion with scott's work on usplah? | 01:52 |
| troy_s | usplash even | 01:52 |
| Seveas | scott wants to use usplash for boot logging | 01:53 |
| Seveas | and translated boot messages | 01:53 |
| PingunZ | Seveas: What about 800*600*256 ? | 01:53 |
| Seveas | PingunZ, what about it? | 01:54 |
| PingunZ | as default :) | 01:54 |
| Seveas | dunno | 01:54 |
| sladen | PingunZ: it will try to boot in the same resolution as your X detected would be correct | 01:54 |
| PingunZ | That would be cool :) | 01:55 |
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| troy_s | greets sladen | 01:59 |
| troy_s | seveas -- doesn't scott have a usplash in the works as well? usplash2? | 01:59 |
| troy_s | frank was in contact on it so that we could ultimately try to target it. | 02:00 |
| troy_s | but ... its so damn late now it might be hard to target its traits. | 02:00 |
| troy_s | bed. | 02:01 |
| troy_s | chat you folks tomorrow. | 02:01 |
| troy_s | be good brothers. | 02:01 |
| PingunZ | Bye troy_s | 02:03 |
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| fschoep | bersace: The right man in the right place! I just sent you an e-mail. | 03:22 |
| PingunZ | hey fschoep :) | 03:22 |
| fschoep | Hi PingunZ | 03:22 |
| bersace | fschoep: *I*'v just sent you (back) an e-mail !! :P | 03:22 |
| fschoep | Oh dear, let me get it | 03:23 |
| PingunZ | Do you have a minute now fschoep ? ( the forum idea --> again ) | 03:23 |
| fschoep | PingunZ: sure, PM me ;) | 03:24 |
| PingunZ | ok ;) | 03:24 |
| fschoep | bersace: thanks, good news - I'll e-mail you the plan, OK? | 03:24 |
| bersace | fschoep: nice | 03:24 |
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| kwwii_ | I never get emails from you guys :-( | 03:38 |
| fschoep | kwwii_: I sent you one the other day | 03:39 |
| kwwii_ | fschoep: must have made it to my span folder :p | 03:40 |
| kwwii_ | ehhh...spam | 03:40 |
| kwwii_ | just kidding though | 03:41 |
| fschoep | Oh, you did get it, then? | 03:41 |
| kwwii_ | yepp, about the sound, right? | 03:41 |
| fschoep | Indeed | 03:43 |
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| troy_s | fschoep here in 15 mins | 04:29 |
| troy_s | okie? | 04:29 |
| fschoep | I think so | 04:29 |
| fschoep | troy_s: for now, OK | 04:29 |
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| troy_s | hello exs | 04:50 |
| exs | hi | 04:50 |
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| Viper550 | Hello everyone... | 05:02 |
| fschoep | Hi Viper550 | 05:02 |
| Viper550 | Edgy is coming along nicely I see... | 05:03 |
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| Viper550 | kwwii_, you said that you were going to give me the new Kubuntu buttons for Crystal? Why not post them on the Wiki? | 05:11 |
| kwwii_ | Viper550: I thought you didn't want the SVG? guess I misunderstood, I'll put 'em on the wiki as you suggest | 05:13 |
| Viper550 | Yeah...I wanted the source for the actual buttons that could be compiled, not the source of the buttons! | 05:14 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, you can either get it from apt (install kde) or download it from kde-look.org | 05:15 |
| Viper550 | The crystal tarball I compiled (0.42) comes with the Kubuntu Dapper buttons, but not the Edgy ones of course | 05:16 |
| kwwii_ | good point....I have two svgs and an xcf file to put 'em all together | 05:17 |
| kwwii_ | I'll put it all on the wiki | 05:17 |
| Viper550 | I just need a tarball with the new Kubuntu buttons so I can overwrite them in the source code and recompile it | 05:18 |
| kwwii_ | http://bootsplash.org/kwin-style-crystal_kensPics.tar.gz | 05:19 |
| Viper550 | thanks... | 05:19 |
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| Viper550 | AWESOME! | 05:34 |
| Viper550 | Although the tarball you gave me was a tad broken (make gave me errors), I just copied the buttons from your tarball into the folder for my current Crystal and recompiled, and after I restarted KDE, it worked! | 05:35 |
| kwwii_ | it was simply a tar, not a tar.gz | 05:38 |
| kwwii_ | sorry | 05:38 |
| kwwii_ | I forgot to type z | 05:38 |
| Viper550 | whoops...but still! I got it to work properly, and they are nice! | 05:38 |
| Viper550 | Looks interesting with one of the gloss overlays from the wiki, adds an extra gloss to the buttons! | 05:39 |
| kwwii_ | :-) | 05:39 |
| Viper550 | Yep...nice! | 05:39 |
| Viper550 | Speaking of gloss, did you get a chance to check out my panel background? | 05:40 |
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| kwwii_ | Viper550: nope, but I'll download it now | 05:43 |
| Viper550 | Thanks, oh and the buttons look nice with Transparency enabled (although the Crystal that comes with Kubuntu has transparency support removed) | 05:45 |
| kwwii_ | I tried that last night, they do look good | 05:46 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 05:46 |
| kwwii_ | bye | 05:46 |
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| Viper550 | I'm back... | 05:52 |
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| kwwii_ | dude, killer panel bg | 05:53 |
| Viper550 | Thanks! | 05:54 |
| PingunZ | Bah, I wish I liked kde so I could use your art :) | 05:57 |
| Viper550 | PingunZ: Can't you use Custom Panel BG's on Gnome as well? | 05:57 |
| kwwii_ | PingunZ: :p | 05:57 |
| PingunZ | Viper550: Yes, but the panel is only one thing :) | 05:58 |
| Viper550 | ??? - But that's the only art I have posted for it right now | 05:58 |
| PingunZ | Viper550: I was talking about all the art on the Kubuntu-edgy-Ideas page | 05:59 |
| PingunZ | Bah, I shut up :p | 05:59 |
| Viper550 | Oh...but some of it (like wallpapers), could be used on Gnome | 05:59 |
| PingunZ | Yup :) | 06:00 |
| PingunZ | But I shoot those myself :) | 06:00 |
| Viper550 | Have there been any comments from testers about the new look for Kubuntu yet? | 06:14 |
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| Viper550 | Have we had any comments about the look of Kubuntu Knot 2? | 08:02 |
| kwwii_ | yepp, everyone pretty much loves it :-) | 08:03 |
| kwwii_ | very good response so far | 08:03 |
| kwwii_ | the biggest negative response has been about the yellow/orange in the middle of the gradient | 08:04 |
| kwwii_ | people like purple! | 08:04 |
| Viper550 | Yeah (that's what I not like either) | 08:05 |
| Viper550 | Well, if you wonder how my desktop looks right now: http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=7247_purpleandgloss.png | 08:07 |
| PingunZ | Viper550: As a Gnome-freak :: That screenshot is pretty slick :) | 08:17 |
| PingunZ | The metacity is really nice ! | 08:18 |
| Viper550 | I'm not using Gnome. | 08:18 |
| PingunZ | Viper550: I'm the gnome-freak | 08:19 |
| Viper550 | KDE. | 08:19 |
| PingunZ | bah :p | 08:19 |
| PingunZ | Ok, let me rephrase that .. I like the kwin theme :) | 08:19 |
| Viper550 | Yeah, Crystal, with the buttons from Edgy! | 08:20 |
| PingunZ | The panel background is really nice too :) | 08:21 |
| Viper550 | That's the one I'm trying to get included with Edgy | 08:22 |
| PingunZ | I like it :) | 08:22 |
| PingunZ | Btw, when you resize the panel --> what happens with the image ? is it scalable ? | 08:23 |
| Viper550 | It's tiled horizontally | 08:23 |
| PingunZ | Can't you make it in .svg so it becomes scalable or is that impossible ? :) | 08:24 |
| PingunZ | Just an idea .. | 08:24 |
| Viper550 | Can't, scales nice | 08:24 |
| PingunZ | Ok :) | 08:25 |
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| Seveas | troy_s, there's a very non-trivial chance that my usplash work will be integrated for edgy | 08:33 |
| Seveas | which rocks | 08:33 |
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| Viper550 | Well, I do have a picture of my desktop from when I did use Ubuntu 5.10: http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marchubuntulooks7ne.jpg | 08:38 |
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| Viper550 | Does anyone still have the gtkrc from the old orange Ubuntulooks? | 08:40 |
| troy_s | seveas keep me posted. | 08:47 |
| Seveas | troy_s, will do | 08:47 |
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| PingunZ | Hey Seveas, any updates yet ? | 11:43 |
| Seveas | yes, I just finished font unification | 11:44 |
| Seveas | pushed it to launchpad | 11:44 |
| Seveas | I'll be sending a .deb for my usplash version and the theme to the artwork list tomorrow | 11:44 |
| Seveas | so people can comment on it. | 11:44 |
| PingunZ | Ok :) | 11:46 |
| PingunZ | Great work man ! | 11:46 |
| PingunZ | Seveas: ping ! | 11:51 |
| Seveas | what? | 11:52 |
| PingunZ | Well, #ubuntuforums ain't really the right channel for usplash ... | 11:52 |
| Seveas | hehe | 11:53 |
| Seveas | well, I'd love it if the rumour spreads | 11:53 |
| Seveas | btw: I'm also taking over the cipherfunk packages | 11:53 |
| PingunZ | If you want rumours ? I can bring you rumours :) | 11:53 |
| Seveas | rumours are good | 11:53 |
| PingunZ | Oki | 11:53 |
| Seveas | spread the link of that crappy video | 11:53 |
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| PingunZ | Can I have the link again ? | 11:54 |
| Seveas | http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/usplash.avi | 11:54 |
| PingunZ | Ty, I'll try to spread it a lot ! | 11:54 |
| PingunZ | I'm pretty good in that :D | 11:54 |
| PingunZ | Seveas: The specs are 800*600*256 and customizable throbber etc ? | 11:56 |
| Seveas | no | 11:56 |
| Seveas | as high resolution as your screen supports | 11:56 |
| PingunZ | That's even better :) | 11:56 |
| Seveas | 256 colors is right | 11:56 |
| Seveas | customizable drawing (not just throbber) | 11:56 |
| Seveas | and animation! | 11:56 |
| Seveas | (and no ppc version yet, i need a ppc machine!) | 11:57 |
| PingunZ | Oki :) | 11:57 |
| Seveas | tell that too, maybe someone will donate one ;) | 11:57 |
| PingunZ | haha | 11:57 |
| PingunZ | I'm starting a thread about this in ubuntuforums.org, ok ? | 11:58 |
| PingunZ | Bah, the forums are kinda slow atm .. | 11:59 |
| PingunZ | I'll do it later | 11:59 |
| PingunZ | Seveas: What's the launchpad link ? | 11:59 |
| Seveas | /products/usplash/+branches/ | 12:00 |
| Seveas | select 'theming' there | 12:00 |
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| PingunZ | Ok :) | 12:01 |
| BHSPitMonkey | hey all. | 12:05 |
| Seveas | hi BHSPitMonkey | 12:06 |
| BHSPitMonkey | what's up? | 12:06 |
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