[01:00] ngith all [01:00] erm [01:00] night all === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495579B.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Konversation] === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:29] troy_s, I now have usplash on 1024x768x256 with a .png progressbar which can also pulsate (may be required soon). Now all I have to do is implement BOGL font handling for the svga part and all the usplash crack I can think of is there [03:29] I hope mjg59 accepts most of it ;) === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PseudoPlacebo [n=Placebo@user-12lcr8r.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-018-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495632B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:40] moin === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495632B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495632B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495632B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:04] Seveas: pulsate? :) [12:05] sladen, crappy video: http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/usplash.avi [12:07] you can't see it but the progressbar is also a .png [12:08] ACCESS DENIED [12:08] Seveas: chmod o+r usplash.avi [12:09] damn scp [12:09] how do I make scp take UMASK into account on the remote machine? [12:09] (it's readable now btw) [12:12] wow, now that is a screenshot [12:13] btw: I hate ati [12:13] too many modeswitches and my machine hangs [12:13] and unfortunately usplash testing involves modechanges [12:17] sladen, looks pretty decent, eh (apart from the general crappyness of the video) ;) [12:18] Seveas: scp -p usplash.avi seveas@machine.example.com:public_html [12:18] hmm, it never occured to me to use -p for that [12:18] thanks! === PingunZ [n=kristof@131.172-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:23] seveas you rock [01:25] Why is that troy_s ? [01:25] usplash stuff. [01:25] Is it working ? [01:25] the high res + high color ? [01:27] PingunZ, only i386+amd64 [01:27] I have i386 [01:27] And edgy so it should work .. [01:27] How can i test it and what shoudl I do ? [01:27] it works on dapper too ;) (I'm still on dapper) [01:28] You can't test yet [01:28] I want to implement one more required thing [01:28] Well, pro's like you guys need stability :) [01:28] Ok, let us know when we can test it and how to make smashing usplash' :) [01:29] Seveas: Will it be included in Edgy ? [01:29] PingunZ, I hope so === PingunZ too [01:29] it depends on having a ppc implementation [01:30] I hope you succeed [01:30] Btw, Will it be hard to make a usplash with a custom throbber ? [01:31] seveas [01:32] do you happen to know the specs basically? [01:32] and don't hate ati [01:32] PingunZ, no it isn't [01:32] apparently AMD is going to open source a limited set of their cards now that they own them [01:32] omg Seveas you're a god :) [01:32] troy_s, I know the specs -- I implemented it ;) [01:32] believe it or not. :) [01:32] laf. [01:32] well... enlighten me [01:33] * us :) [01:33] did you see msikma's usplash mock? [01:33] i originally planned to use a spotlight approach, and your additions make it feasible it appears. [01:33] troy_s, yes, themes can include custom animations [01:34] but they have to be programmed, just like custom throbbers [01:35] and all frames need to use the exact same pallette [01:35] hrm... [01:35] do you have a code snippit? [01:35] palette mapping is dead easy for me since i have become an imagemagick zealot [01:36] that set of tools is bloody remarkable. [01:36] basically, a function is called 25 times a second to let you draw the next 'frame' [01:37] and you use what to draw the frame? svgalib? [01:37] svgalib on i386/amd64, bogl on ppc [01:37] wow... the possibilities are quite massive on that. [01:37] but with platform-agnostic wrappers [01:37] are there any limits on the frames etc? [01:37] 256 colors [01:37] numerically speaking [01:38] 256 is no limit really -- unless you are a die hard grad freak. [01:38] I have a very decent 256 color splash [01:38] see that movie I posted [01:38] http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/usplash.avi [01:38] yes i checked it out... [01:38] movie itself is crap, but it shows some possibilities [01:38] so the progress bar is ??? [01:39] is that progress bar a variation on the 25fps function? [01:39] or a sep issue? [01:39] could you email me the code snippit so I could peep at it and possibly get a working usplash for your code? [01:40] the progress bar is inside the 25fps function [01:41] that function gets as argument whether the thing is pulsating or not [01:41] but font unification first, then I'll send code ;) [01:42] i don't want the code code, just the code for the function so i can wrap my head around it. [01:42] and by pulsating, i couldn't quite get what you mean from your vid. [01:43] slick looking though... very slick. [01:45] with pulsating I mean the thing moving from left to right and back [01:47] ahh i see... of course we could do any number of things... does that progress bar in your sample consist of only the [01:47] image area? [01:47] or is it a smaller box that is moved [01:47] etc? [01:47] it is a part of an image rendered again every step [01:48] every time a different part of the image [01:48] same dimensions no doubt? [01:48] yes, same dimensions [01:48] ahh great. [01:48] Seveas: So It'll be 1280*1024 && 256 colors ? [01:49] well i must sleep. just got in from work and need to hit the GDM stone tomorrow to finish up the other variation [01:49] bloody dox for gdm are rather limited. [01:49] PingunZ, my idea is 640x400x256 default, but making it asy (and providing the themes) to use a higher resolution [01:50] my display can't use 1280x1024 for instance [01:50] 640x400@8bpp is pretty bloody good. [01:50] compared to where we are at [01:50] especially if it abides by the ubuntu 'no touch kernel' approach. [01:50] indeed [01:50] and it's all in userspace [01:51] how swell is that... [01:52] who is responsible for the approval on usplash? [01:52] mjg59 has to accept my patches into his source [01:52] I've e-mailed him about ot, but no response yet [01:52] is this in conjuntion with scott's work on usplah? [01:52] usplash even [01:53] scott wants to use usplash for boot logging [01:53] and translated boot messages [01:53] Seveas: What about 800*600*256 ? [01:54] PingunZ, what about it? [01:54] as default :) [01:54] dunno [01:54] PingunZ: it will try to boot in the same resolution as your X detected would be correct [01:55] That would be cool :) === PingunZ [n=kristof@131.172-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:59] greets sladen [01:59] seveas -- doesn't scott have a usplash in the works as well? usplash2? [02:00] frank was in contact on it so that we could ultimately try to target it. [02:00] but ... its so damn late now it might be hard to target its traits. [02:01] bed. [02:01] chat you folks tomorrow. [02:01] be good brothers. [02:03] Bye troy_s === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495632B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h151n2fls33o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-172-80.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:22] bersace: The right man in the right place! I just sent you an e-mail. [03:22] hey fschoep :) [03:22] Hi PingunZ [03:22] fschoep: *I*'v just sent you (back) an e-mail !! :P [03:23] Oh dear, let me get it [03:23] Do you have a minute now fschoep ? ( the forum idea --> again ) [03:24] PingunZ: sure, PM me ;) [03:24] ok ;) [03:24] bersace: thanks, good news - I'll e-mail you the plan, OK? [03:24] fschoep: nice === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-028-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:38] I never get emails from you guys :-( [03:39] kwwii_: I sent you one the other day [03:40] fschoep: must have made it to my span folder :p [03:40] ehhh...spam [03:41] just kidding though [03:41] Oh, you did get it, then? [03:41] yepp, about the sound, right? [03:43] Indeed === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495632B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [04:29] fschoep here in 15 mins [04:29] okie? [04:29] I think so [04:29] troy_s: for now, OK === exs [n=exs@81-179-146-201.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [04:50] hello exs [04:50] hi === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:02] Hello everyone... [05:02] Hi Viper550 [05:03] Edgy is coming along nicely I see... === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:11] kwwii_, you said that you were going to give me the new Kubuntu buttons for Crystal? Why not post them on the Wiki? [05:13] Viper550: I thought you didn't want the SVG? guess I misunderstood, I'll put 'em on the wiki as you suggest [05:14] Yeah...I wanted the source for the actual buttons that could be compiled, not the source of the buttons! [05:15] hehe, you can either get it from apt (install kde) or download it from kde-look.org [05:16] The crystal tarball I compiled (0.42) comes with the Kubuntu Dapper buttons, but not the Edgy ones of course [05:17] good point....I have two svgs and an xcf file to put 'em all together [05:17] I'll put it all on the wiki [05:18] I just need a tarball with the new Kubuntu buttons so I can overwrite them in the source code and recompile it [05:19] http://bootsplash.org/kwin-style-crystal_kensPics.tar.gz [05:19] thanks... === Viper550 goes to recompile Crystal === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:34] AWESOME! [05:35] Although the tarball you gave me was a tad broken (make gave me errors), I just copied the buttons from your tarball into the folder for my current Crystal and recompiled, and after I restarted KDE, it worked! [05:38] it was simply a tar, not a tar.gz [05:38] sorry [05:38] I forgot to type z [05:38] whoops...but still! I got it to work properly, and they are nice! [05:39] Looks interesting with one of the gloss overlays from the wiki, adds an extra gloss to the buttons! [05:39] :-) [05:39] Yep...nice! [05:40] Speaking of gloss, did you get a chance to check out my panel background? === exs [n=exs@81-179-146-201.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:43] Viper550: nope, but I'll download it now [05:45] Thanks, oh and the buttons look nice with Transparency enabled (although the Crystal that comes with Kubuntu has transparency support removed) [05:46] I tried that last night, they do look good [05:46] hehe [05:46] bye === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:52] I'm back... === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:53] dude, killer panel bg [05:54] Thanks! [05:57] Bah, I wish I liked kde so I could use your art :) [05:57] PingunZ: Can't you use Custom Panel BG's on Gnome as well? [05:57] PingunZ: :p [05:58] Viper550: Yes, but the panel is only one thing :) [05:58] ??? - But that's the only art I have posted for it right now [05:59] Viper550: I was talking about all the art on the Kubuntu-edgy-Ideas page [05:59] Bah, I shut up :p [05:59] Oh...but some of it (like wallpapers), could be used on Gnome [06:00] Yup :) [06:00] But I shoot those myself :) [06:14] Have there been any comments from testers about the new look for Kubuntu yet? === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Just] === bersace [n=bersace@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-172-80.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:02] Have we had any comments about the look of Kubuntu Knot 2? [08:03] yepp, everyone pretty much loves it :-) [08:03] very good response so far [08:04] the biggest negative response has been about the yellow/orange in the middle of the gradient [08:04] people like purple! [08:05] Yeah (that's what I not like either) [08:07] Well, if you wonder how my desktop looks right now: http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=7247_purpleandgloss.png [08:17] Viper550: As a Gnome-freak :: That screenshot is pretty slick :) [08:18] The metacity is really nice ! [08:18] I'm not using Gnome. [08:19] Viper550: I'm the gnome-freak [08:19] KDE. [08:19] bah :p [08:19] Ok, let me rephrase that .. I like the kwin theme :) [08:20] Yeah, Crystal, with the buttons from Edgy! [08:21] The panel background is really nice too :) [08:22] That's the one I'm trying to get included with Edgy [08:22] I like it :) [08:23] Btw, when you resize the panel --> what happens with the image ? is it scalable ? [08:23] It's tiled horizontally [08:24] Can't you make it in .svg so it becomes scalable or is that impossible ? :) [08:24] Just an idea .. [08:24] Can't, scales nice [08:25] Ok :) === klepas is now known as klepas_Zzz [08:33] troy_s, there's a very non-trivial chance that my usplash work will be integrated for edgy [08:33] which rocks === PingunZ seconds that ! [08:38] Well, I do have a picture of my desktop from when I did use Ubuntu 5.10: http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marchubuntulooks7ne.jpg === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-022-052.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:40] Does anyone still have the gtkrc from the old orange Ubuntulooks? [08:47] seveas keep me posted. [08:47] troy_s, will do === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495632B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ is following a guide for inkscape :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:43] Hey Seveas, any updates yet ? [11:44] yes, I just finished font unification [11:44] pushed it to launchpad [11:44] I'll be sending a .deb for my usplash version and the theme to the artwork list tomorrow [11:44] so people can comment on it. [11:46] Ok :) [11:46] Great work man ! [11:51] Seveas: ping ! [11:52] what? [11:52] Well, #ubuntuforums ain't really the right channel for usplash ... [11:53] hehe [11:53] well, I'd love it if the rumour spreads [11:53] btw: I'm also taking over the cipherfunk packages [11:53] If you want rumours ? I can bring you rumours :) [11:53] rumours are good [11:53] Oki [11:53] spread the link of that crappy video === PingunZ is starting a thread in ubuntuforums ... [11:54] Can I have the link again ? [11:54] http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/usplash.avi [11:54] Ty, I'll try to spread it a lot ! [11:54] I'm pretty good in that :D [11:56] Seveas: The specs are 800*600*256 and customizable throbber etc ? [11:56] no [11:56] as high resolution as your screen supports [11:56] That's even better :) [11:56] 256 colors is right [11:56] customizable drawing (not just throbber) [11:56] and animation! [11:57] (and no ppc version yet, i need a ppc machine!) [11:57] Oki :) [11:57] tell that too, maybe someone will donate one ;) [11:57] haha [11:58] I'm starting a thread about this in ubuntuforums.org, ok ? [11:59] Bah, the forums are kinda slow atm .. [11:59] I'll do it later [11:59] Seveas: What's the launchpad link ? [12:00] /products/usplash/+branches/ [12:00] select 'theming' there === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-68-95-246-24.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:01] Ok :) [12:05] hey all. [12:06] hi BHSPitMonkey [12:06] what's up?