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| RedRose | Hello? | 12:47 |
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| RedRose | I'm just wondering how to compile it after i've used make menuconfig | 12:47 |
| sn9 | normally, you don't do any of that under ubuntu | 12:48 |
| RedRose | menuconfig? | 12:50 |
| RedRose | Well I want to enable toshiba support, for some reason the kernel that came with it is not properly supported, so i lose a lot of laptop functionality | 12:50 |
| sn9 | toshiba support is supposed to be included in stock kernels | 12:51 |
| RedRose | I know, but when I do dmesg | grep -i toshiba i get a message saying it's not | 12:52 |
| RedRose | i try modprobeing it, it says it failed | 12:52 |
| sn9 | what is the module name? | 12:52 |
| RedRose | toshiba and toshiba_acpi | 12:53 |
| RedRose | [17186620.976000] toshiba: not a supported Toshiba laptop | 12:53 |
| sn9 | then recompiling the same version won't help you | 12:54 |
| RedRose | I'm compiling 2.6.17 | 12:55 |
| RedRose | in 2.6.15 the toshiba support is modular and experimental | 12:55 |
| RedRose | in .17, it's not | 12:56 |
| sn9 | other changes in .17 over .15 will break random stuff all over the system. you realize that, right? | 12:57 |
| RedRose | How so? | 12:57 |
| RedRose | cause right now i'm out of options, i've pretty much tried everything | 12:58 |
| RedRose | I can't mod screen brightness, zapping an hour off my battery | 12:58 |
| sn9 | edgy eft will have that kernel | 12:59 |
| RedRose | ? | 12:59 |
| sn9 | but that does not automatically mean it will work for your model | 12:59 |
| RedRose | I know, which again is why I am trying to recompile. Is their anything else you can recommend? | 01:00 |
| sn9 | do you know for a fact that support for your specific model was added? | 01:01 |
| RedRose | Not Specifically the A105-S4011, but the A105 yes. | 01:02 |
| RedRose | [17179586.344000] synaptics: Toshiba Satellite A105 detected, limiting rate to 40pps. | 01:02 |
| RedRose | [17186620.976000] toshiba: not a supported Toshiba laptop | 01:02 |
| sn9 | you could try to backport the changes to .15 | 01:03 |
| sn9 | probably the most trouble-free option for you | 01:04 |
| RedRose | And how would I do that? | 01:05 |
| sn9 | first thing to try would be to copy the affected source files from your .17 tree to your .15 tree | 01:06 |
| RedRose | so find toshiba.ko in the .17 tree and place it in the .15 tree? | 01:06 |
| sn9 | no, the SOURCE | 01:07 |
| RedRose | So recompile the .15 kernel, but put the toshiba modules in from .17? | 01:08 |
| sn9 | yes | 01:08 |
| sn9 | in source form | 01:08 |
| RedRose | tried that before, it's broke on me | 01:09 |
| sn9 | then the .17 modules will be build against .15 | 01:09 |
| RedRose | again, it broke | 01:09 |
| RedRose | so idk what to do | 01:11 |
| RedRose | When I Run make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers | 01:13 |
| RedRose | I get dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-headers-2.6.17.11-ubuntu1 not in control info as an error, why? | 01:13 |
| sn9 | you don't make a kernel out of the headers | 01:15 |
| sn9 | you make modules | 01:15 |
| RedRose | so ditch kernel_headers and add kernel_modules? | 01:16 |
| sn9 | no | 01:17 |
| RedRose | sorry... just add modules, ditch kernel_headers | 01:17 |
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| RedRose | sn9, I know i'm difficult, but that's you for all your help | 01:17 |
| sn9 | kernel headers are for building modules outside the kernel tree | 01:17 |
| sn9 | yours are in the kernel tree, so you need the kernel source | 01:18 |
| RedRose | ok. | 01:18 |
| RedRose | i'm now running make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image modules | 01:18 |
| sn9 | you cannot run that in a plain ol' headers tree | 01:19 |
| RedRose | ? | 01:19 |
| sn9 | kernel_image needs actual source | 01:20 |
| RedRose | I hate to be a script-kiddie like this, but what's the command i can enter to build it? | 01:20 |
| RedRose | it has it | 01:20 |
| RedRose | i'm in the source tree | 01:20 |
| RedRose | it "git" the source tree, ran make menuconfig and I'm wondering how to compile | 01:21 |
| sn9 | ok, not linux-headers anymore? (kernel-headers is old debian, not ubuntu) | 01:21 |
| RedRose | ok | 01:21 |
| RedRose | so what now? | 01:21 |
| sn9 | if you "git" the source tree, you will need to replace your kernel and ALL its modules | 01:22 |
| sn9 | and security updates will not apply | 01:22 |
| RedRose | damnit | 01:22 |
| RedRose | Then Do You Recommend Anything Else? | 01:23 |
| RedRose | but why would that be? i mean i pulled it from the ubuntu source and all... | 01:24 |
| sn9 | pulling from ubuntu source means using apt, not git | 01:25 |
| sn9 | git is for the branch of the ubuntu kernel where development takes place | 01:25 |
| RedRose | But when i pull from the apt repos it gives my 2.6.15-7, which is way behind the current | 01:26 |
| RedRose | apt-get install linux-source, correct? | 01:26 |
| sn9 | that is because you are on dapper, not edgy | 01:27 |
| sn9 | dapper and edgy have separate kernel trees both in apt and in git | 01:28 |
| RedRose | no, I'm in Dapper and the current one i'm running is 2.6.17.26, but when I get from apt source it gives me 2.6.17.7 | 01:28 |
| RedRose | Ok, i've got it... I'm going to recompile 2.6.15.26, what command will compile it after make menuconfig | 01:30 |
| sn9 | you don't need to make menuconfig at all if you get the kernel tree with apt-get source | 01:33 |
| RedRose | why not? I want to change around some of the kernel options. | 01:33 |
| RedRose | and I did apt-get install linux-source-2.16 and it gave me the 26 version, so i have to source | 01:35 |
| RedRose | So how do i compile? | 01:37 |
| sn9 | most kernel options would not need to be changed. you would compile using make-kpkg | 01:38 |
| RedRose | just type that in? | 01:38 |
| RedRose | make-kpkg? nothing else? | 01:38 |
| RedRose | no --initrd? | 01:38 |
| sn9 | yes, initrd and whatever else | 01:39 |
| RedRose | lol... | 01:39 |
| sn9 | kernel_image, modules, and whatnot | 01:39 |
| RedRose | running... thanks for all the help, i'm onthe run too, but i will be back :P | 01:39 |
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| RedRose | Ok, How do I build the kernel? I've done make menuconfig, what's after that? | 08:12 |
| nigel_c | make | 08:14 |
| RedRose | what about to put it in deb format? | 08:14 |
| nigel_c | Oooh. You've got me there. | 08:15 |
| RedRose | lol | 08:15 |
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| nigel_c | I think I should get you to do the same and read the instructions :) | 08:16 |
| RedRose | I guess I'm just caught up, because i want to do the make menuconfig, but i'm told everywhere to just edit files, which is a lot more time cosumand and cumbersome. | 08:16 |
| nigel_c | make-kpkg is the short answer, but you might want more :> | 08:16 |
| RedRose | I tried that, got a kernel-header error | 08:17 |
| nigel_c | Sorry. I'm used to just doing make && make modules_install && cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/<whatever> | 08:18 |
| RedRose | on ubuntu? | 08:18 |
| nigel_c | On and distro you can do that. | 08:18 |
| RedRose | on? | 08:18 |
| nigel_c | s/and/any | 08:18 |
| nigel_c | If you're using lilo, you need to rerun lilo afterwards, but apart from that... | 08:18 |
| RedRose | GRUB | 08:19 |
| nigel_c | ack | 08:19 |
| RedRose | yeah | 08:19 |
| RedRose | and i know the deb just does one nice package | 08:19 |
| nigel_c | :) Sorry. I'm just an ignoramus there. Can't know everything, you know! | 08:19 |
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| RedRose | Can anyone help me with building the kernel? I just need to know to to build from after make menuconfig for ubuntu. | 07:01 |
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| mrpister | Does anyone have any tips debugging hard locks/freezes? | 08:01 |
| mrpister | There is no info in the logs. | 08:02 |
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