=== BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === RedRose [n=root@c-67-174-77-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:47] Hello? [12:47] I'm just wondering how to compile it after i've used make menuconfig [12:48] normally, you don't do any of that under ubuntu [12:50] menuconfig? [12:50] Well I want to enable toshiba support, for some reason the kernel that came with it is not properly supported, so i lose a lot of laptop functionality [12:51] toshiba support is supposed to be included in stock kernels [12:52] I know, but when I do dmesg | grep -i toshiba i get a message saying it's not [12:52] i try modprobeing it, it says it failed [12:52] what is the module name? [12:53] toshiba and toshiba_acpi [12:53] [17186620.976000] toshiba: not a supported Toshiba laptop [12:54] then recompiling the same version won't help you [12:55] I'm compiling 2.6.17 [12:55] in 2.6.15 the toshiba support is modular and experimental [12:56] in .17, it's not [12:57] other changes in .17 over .15 will break random stuff all over the system. you realize that, right? [12:57] How so? [12:58] cause right now i'm out of options, i've pretty much tried everything [12:58] I can't mod screen brightness, zapping an hour off my battery [12:59] edgy eft will have that kernel [12:59] ? [12:59] but that does not automatically mean it will work for your model [01:00] I know, which again is why I am trying to recompile. Is their anything else you can recommend? [01:01] do you know for a fact that support for your specific model was added? [01:02] Not Specifically the A105-S4011, but the A105 yes. [01:02] [17179586.344000] synaptics: Toshiba Satellite A105 detected, limiting rate to 40pps. [01:02] [17186620.976000] toshiba: not a supported Toshiba laptop [01:03] you could try to backport the changes to .15 [01:04] probably the most trouble-free option for you [01:05] And how would I do that? [01:06] first thing to try would be to copy the affected source files from your .17 tree to your .15 tree [01:06] so find toshiba.ko in the .17 tree and place it in the .15 tree? [01:07] no, the SOURCE [01:08] So recompile the .15 kernel, but put the toshiba modules in from .17? [01:08] yes [01:08] in source form [01:09] tried that before, it's broke on me [01:09] then the .17 modules will be build against .15 [01:09] again, it broke [01:11] so idk what to do [01:13] When I Run make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers [01:13] I get dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-headers-2.6.17.11-ubuntu1 not in control info as an error, why? [01:15] you don't make a kernel out of the headers [01:15] you make modules [01:16] so ditch kernel_headers and add kernel_modules? [01:17] no [01:17] sorry... just add modules, ditch kernel_headers === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Digital] [01:17] sn9, I know i'm difficult, but that's you for all your help [01:17] kernel headers are for building modules outside the kernel tree [01:18] yours are in the kernel tree, so you need the kernel source [01:18] ok. [01:18] i'm now running make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image modules [01:19] you cannot run that in a plain ol' headers tree [01:19] ? [01:20] kernel_image needs actual source [01:20] I hate to be a script-kiddie like this, but what's the command i can enter to build it? [01:20] it has it [01:20] i'm in the source tree [01:21] it "git" the source tree, ran make menuconfig and I'm wondering how to compile [01:21] ok, not linux-headers anymore? (kernel-headers is old debian, not ubuntu) [01:21] ok [01:21] so what now? [01:22] if you "git" the source tree, you will need to replace your kernel and ALL its modules [01:22] and security updates will not apply [01:22] damnit [01:23] Then Do You Recommend Anything Else? [01:24] but why would that be? i mean i pulled it from the ubuntu source and all... [01:25] pulling from ubuntu source means using apt, not git [01:25] git is for the branch of the ubuntu kernel where development takes place [01:26] But when i pull from the apt repos it gives my 2.6.15-7, which is way behind the current [01:26] apt-get install linux-source, correct? [01:27] that is because you are on dapper, not edgy [01:28] dapper and edgy have separate kernel trees both in apt and in git [01:28] no, I'm in Dapper and the current one i'm running is 2.6.17.26, but when I get from apt source it gives me 2.6.17.7 [01:30] Ok, i've got it... I'm going to recompile 2.6.15.26, what command will compile it after make menuconfig [01:33] you don't need to make menuconfig at all if you get the kernel tree with apt-get source [01:33] why not? I want to change around some of the kernel options. [01:35] and I did apt-get install linux-source-2.16 and it gave me the 26 version, so i have to source [01:37] So how do i compile? [01:38] most kernel options would not need to be changed. you would compile using make-kpkg [01:38] just type that in? [01:38] make-kpkg? nothing else? [01:38] no --initrd? [01:39] yes, initrd and whatever else [01:39] lol... [01:39] kernel_image, modules, and whatnot [01:39] running... thanks for all the help, i'm onthe run too, but i will be back :P === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-064-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Kamion_ [n=cjwatson@83-216-156-196.colinw664.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Traxer|off [i=traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === RedRose [n=root@c-67-174-77-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:12] Ok, How do I build the kernel? I've done make menuconfig, what's after that? [08:14] make [08:14] what about to put it in deb format? [08:15] Oooh. You've got me there. [08:15] lol === nigel_c googles for "make debian kernel" [08:16] I think I should get you to do the same and read the instructions :) [08:16] I guess I'm just caught up, because i want to do the make menuconfig, but i'm told everywhere to just edit files, which is a lot more time cosumand and cumbersome. [08:16] make-kpkg is the short answer, but you might want more :> [08:17] I tried that, got a kernel-header error [08:18] Sorry. I'm used to just doing make && make modules_install && cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/ [08:18] on ubuntu? [08:18] On and distro you can do that. [08:18] on? [08:18] s/and/any [08:18] If you're using lilo, you need to rerun lilo afterwards, but apart from that... [08:19] GRUB [08:19] ack [08:19] yeah [08:19] and i know the deb just does one nice package [08:19] :) Sorry. I'm just an ignoramus there. Can't know everything, you know! === Kamion [n=cjwatson@83-216-156-196.colinw664.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === natrixgli [n=natrixgl@CPE-72-131-35-138.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === natrixgli [n=natrixgl@CPE-72-131-35-138.wi.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === nigel_c [i=nigel@nigel.suspend2.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mjg59 [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lloydinho [n=andreas@p5495632B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Kamion_ [n=cjwatson@83-216-156-196.colinw664.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@lns02-0024.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === RedRose [n=root@c-67-174-77-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:01] Can anyone help me with building the kernel? I just need to know to to build from after make menuconfig for ubuntu. === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === RedRose [n=root@c-67-174-77-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === sn9 [n=danielg4@66.218.54.163] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns02-0024.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Kamion [n=cjwatson@83-216-156-196.colinw664.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mrpister [n=jlee@dsl092-078-035.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:01] Does anyone have any tips debugging hard locks/freezes? [08:02] There is no info in the logs. === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-154-42.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mrpister [n=jlee@dsl092-078-035.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-255-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-255-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Konversation] === [g2] [n=g2@nslu2-linux/g2] has joined #ubuntu-kernel