[12:01] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, no output
[12:01] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: ``uname -r''
[12:01] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, sorry, wrong command line.
[12:01] <] GoldenDragon> hm... what file system should I install ubuntu in?
[12:02] <mcphail> ] GoldenDragon: ext3 would be simplest
[12:02] <naa> profitfs
[12:02] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, lsmod -> no output
[12:02] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, $ uname -r
[12:02] <fabiomazzarino> 2.6.12-10-k7
[12:02] <] GoldenDragon> =] 
[12:02] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: ``lsb_release -r''
[12:02] <AxelH> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22278
[12:02] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: it is a matter of taste i will no argue over this... in the wiki you can find how to make kernel deb's if you prefer that way. Good Luck :)
[12:03] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, $ lsb_release -r
[12:03] <fabiomazzarino> Release:        6.06
[12:03] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: dpkg -l udev|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'
[12:03] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, $ dpkg -l udev|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'
[12:03] <fabiomazzarino> 079-0ubuntu34
[12:03] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: your problem is straightforward. Dapper's udev requires Dapper's kernel.
[12:03] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: you're currently running Breezy kernel.
[12:04] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I've just ran the upgrade using Upgrade Manager.
[12:04] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, what i find there applies only to ubuntu kernels, not vanilla kernels
[12:04] <blakesmith> can someone tell me what bit encryption firefox is using with dapper?
[12:04] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: and you haven't rebooted.
[12:04] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, twice.
[12:04] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: and you chose the 2.6.15 kernel?
[12:05] <pip> I am installing Dapper ,when partition time ,how to part for /  ?
[12:05] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, hmmm... no 2.6.15 kernel avaiable at grub.
[12:05] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: then the dist-upgrade is incomplete.
[12:05] <afm\colo> pip: one size does not fit all
[12:05] <blakesmith> can someone tell me what bit encryption firefox is using with dapper?
[12:05] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, geez :(
[12:05] <afm\colo> i'd opt for AT LEAST 5gb
[12:05] <afm\colo> for /
[12:05] <afm\colo> with seperate /
[12:05] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: ``sudo apt-get install linux-k7''
[12:05] <afm\colo> /home
[12:05] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: you can make exactly the same with any sources you like...
[12:05] <rgg> #amsn is kinda empty,nobody's willing to help me,can i ask for help here?
[12:05] <pip> afm\colo, what do you mean ?
[12:06] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I'm trying to run dist-upgrade again.
[12:06] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: i know people that likes to run gentoo kernels....
[12:06] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, not according to that website, it assumes i have a debian/ folder, and then gives me this roundabout way of making up a config file
[12:06] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: you also need the command I just gave you.
[12:06] <rgg> i mean,i'm running ubuntu.
[12:06] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, reboot now.
[12:06] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, then why don't i just run gentoo?
[12:06] <blakesmith> or can someone tell me which browser supports 128 bit encryption? i need it to pay my bills
[12:06] <pip> afm\colo, there always an errot window saying "can't build /dev/sad1"
[12:06] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I'm trying your install too.
[12:07] <m4rk> how do i get ubuntu to serve up a webcam applet for my firewire dv camera?
[12:07] <crimsun> Alex: you typed the command incorrectly
[12:07] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I hope to be back soon.
[12:07] <crimsun> argh
[12:07] <fabiomazzarino> reboot!!!
[12:07] <crimsun> Alex: sorry
[12:07] <tom4> !patience
[12:07] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:07] <crimsun> AxelH: you typed the command incorrectly
[12:08] <AxelH> Ah, what is it then? I'm quite unexperienced in Linux.
[12:08] <pip> afm\colo,*error
[12:08] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: the kerneles from kernel.org *do* have the debian/ folder....
[12:08] <crimsun> AxelH: it's ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[12:08] <mondo> I just bought an external hdd and connected it via USB, but the device doesn't have an owner, all permissions are set to read only, and I can't change them. Help? :(
[12:09] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: instead of arguin with everything i say just go and try the instructions in the wiki with the vanilla kernel and come here if you have a *real* problem
[12:09] <] GoldenDragon> what is the purpose of a swap partition?
[12:09] <AxelH> Crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22279
[12:10] <crimsun> AxelH: good. Now pastebin ``amixer''
[12:10] <hyperstream> guys if i put a new sound blaster soundcard into my box, will it disable the onboard?
[12:10] <rshakin> is there any other repositories besides us.archive cause it's acting up
[12:10] <AxelH> Crimsun:
[12:10] <enyc> rshakin: you can change the 'us.' to another country-code ...
[12:10] <AxelH> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22280
[12:11] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, i have *real* problem with the instructions in the wiki
[12:11] <rshakin> enyc: how would i do that
[12:11] <afm\colo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory @ ] GoldenDragon
[12:11] <rshakin> enyc: is there a us2
[12:11] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: being?? what comand fails? what is the error msg??
[12:11] <mondo> Could anyone help me change/fix the permissions on my external usb hdd?
[12:11] <hyperstream> any idea's?
[12:11] <] GoldenDragon> thx
[12:11] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: use a pastebin if the msgs are big
[12:11] <enyc> rshakin: erm.... id have lo look into ubuntu  mirrors
[12:11] <erUSUL> !paste > loupgaroublond
[12:12] <hyperstream> can alsa support two sound cards? one onbard and one pci ?   or one uses oss and one uses alsa?   (So i can use xmms on one) while i use the other for teamspeak while ingame ? )
[12:12] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, it's a sanity issue, if i want my custom config made up in menuconfig, i have to go this roundabout way to get it, which is a serious regression from debian
[12:12] <afm\colo> hyperstream: ALSA can support multiple cards
[12:12] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I'm back
[12:13] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, uffortunately without sound.
[12:13] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: uname -r
[12:13] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, samething yet
[12:13] <crimsun> AxelH: try: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[12:13] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: "samething yet"?
[12:13] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, $ uname -r
[12:13] <fabiomazzarino> 2.6.12-10-k7
[12:13] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.15-26-k7
[12:13] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: i'm not sure what you mean (english is not my native tongue as you surely noticed) you have a custom .config that you want to use?
[12:14] <blakesmith> I am using Dapper and the FireFox in the repositories... I went to my bank's site to set up online banking and says that I do not have 128bit encryption and that it is required.... any ideas?
[12:14] <AxelH> Crimsun: Would it require a reboot after? If not, no result.
[12:14] <crimsun> AxelH: afterward, try: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:14] <enyc> rshakin: the archive is in http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/ubuntu/dists/
[12:14] <AxelH> Nothing.
[12:14] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, for example, the debian way is: $ make-kpkg --append-to-version -gekke-1.0 --config menuconfig kernel_headers kernel_image
[12:15] <Michael> is ubuntu a version of debian?
[12:15] <Dj_K> who i do install video and sound codecs
[12:15] <crimsun> AxelH: now try: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1 && aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:15] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, and for the record, i just checked, there is no 'debian/' folder in a stock vanilla kernel from kernel.org
[12:15] <blakesmith> Michaet, ubuntu is based on debian
[12:15] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22281
[12:15] <kamilCzauz> hey guys
[12:15] <Michael> is it very stable?
[12:15] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, pt-br here.
[12:16] <AxelH> Silence.
[12:16] <kamilCzauz> im having a problem with a ar5212 wireless card, and i had no luck on the forums
[12:16] <blakesmith> Michael, it has been for me in the year that I have used it
[12:16] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, so when i use the debian method, text flows past, i get menuconfig, i make up my config using this program, and then hit exit, then i wait a while, and come back, and i have two packages waiting for me
[12:16] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, Instalado -> Installed | Candidatos -> Candidates | Tabela de Verso -> Version Table
[12:16] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: post the output from ``sudo update-grub''
[12:16] <Michael> good to hear that
[12:16] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, using the method on the wiki, it assumes i already have my desired .config file, which i don't have
[12:16] <kamilCzauz> ath0      Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:17] <blakesmith> I am using Dapper and the FireFox in the repositories... I went to my bank's site to set up online banking and says that I do not have 128bit encryption and that it is required.... any ideas?
[12:17] <kamilCzauz> anyone know why i would get that when i type iwlist ath0 scan?
[12:17] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22282
[12:18] <Exclamation> hi, how do i install the nvidia settings app?
[12:18] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: just run 'make menuconfig'
[12:18] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, that is a kludge, never mind, there is no 'debian/' folder
[12:18] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: better do a 'sudo apt-get install kernel-package' and do it the debian way
[12:18] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: it should be the top entry in your grub menu
[12:19] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, that's what i'm asking you how i can do that, because i just did, and i got an error
[12:19] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: 2.6.15-26-k7
[12:19] <rshakin> enyc: still getting alot of connection errors
[12:19] <richard> I just reported a Ubuntu bug if anyone is interested ... 64 bit version install
[12:19] <kamilCzauz> anyone know why i would get that when i type iwlist ath0 scan?   ath0      Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:19] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I'll try again.
[12:19] <rshakin> 1
[12:20] <pschulz01> Good morning.
[12:20] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, make-kpkg is *part* of kernel-package
[12:20] <pip> pschulz01, morning
[12:20] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, reboot
[12:20] <Michael> good afternoon
[12:20] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: what is the error msg?
[12:20] <crimsun> not only is it part of kernel-package, it essentially _is_ kernel-package.
[12:20] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, may i PM you a two line quote?
[12:21] <blakesmith> I am using Dapper and the FireFox in the repositories... I went to my bank's site to set up online banking and says that I do not have 128bit encryption and that it is required.... any ideas? i REALLY need to get this working to pay some bills
[12:21] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: go ahead
[12:21] <Exclamation> blakesmith: maybe use ie in wine...
[12:21] <kamilCzauz> anyone know why i would get that when i type iwlist ath0 scan?   ath0      Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:22] <live> hello
[12:22] <spunk__> blakesmith: are you sure your bank accepts firefox, that is, have you used firefox for your banking before?
[12:22] <blakesmith> Exlam, do you think i would need the IE install AND the high encrpyt package?
[12:22] <chiefinnovator> Hi everybody
[12:22] <chiefinnovator> Thanks for using Ubuntu
[12:22] <blakesmith> spunk, i did a like 6 months ago and it was peachy
[12:22] <Michael> Hello
[12:22] <StoneNote> blakesmith, read this http://kb.mozillazine.org/128-bit_Encryption
[12:22] <spunk__> blakesmith: ok
[12:22] <chiefinnovator> Does anyone happen to know how bugs work in Ubuntu?
[12:22] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone point me in the direction of somewhere i could find out how to use john the ripper?
[12:22] <Exclamation> blakesmith: maybe, i dont use ie mayself but i know people that do
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> I just submitted my first bug
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> and I'm wondering what will happen to it
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> how does it get proccessed?
[12:23] <synic> blakesmith: it might dislike your user agent.  You can install an extension that will spoof it.
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> and it's a doozy, can't install Ubuntu
[12:23] <blakesmith> stone, i think we may be onto something
[12:23] <crimsun> AxelH: now try: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 2 && aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> But I'm curious if they'll fix it like tomorrow or if have to wait months
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> anyone know?
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> hello, anyone?
[12:24] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, stop with the enter keys you keep moving the goal posts
[12:24] <chiefinnovator> what do mean?
[12:24] <Madpilot> !enter
[12:24] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, I don't understand
[12:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:24] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, when you say can't install please tell us exactly what you are doing and seeing
[12:24] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone please tell me a room where they would know how to use john the ripper?
[12:24] <spunk__> does anyone know where/how gnome stores user settings? specifically, where does gnome-sound-properties store the settings?
[12:25] <Madpilot> must go - later, all
[12:25] <chiefinnovator> So you're saying I should type my whole story and then just submit once?
[12:25] <synic> spunk__: gconf most likely.
[12:25] <spunk__> synic: ok, thanks
[12:25] <synic> spunk__: gconf-editor
[12:25] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, yes, however for this about two lines is good
[12:25] <AxelH> amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 2 && aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:25] <AxelH> err
[12:25] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, can't install because of my bug (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/58358)
[12:26] <AxelH>  -/usr/share/sounds/startup.wava: No such file or directory *
[12:26] <synic> chiefinnovator: how do you know that it's a bug and not pebkac?  It will probably take months if it's actually a bug.  You won't see the fix until the next release.
[12:26] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, lets have a look at that then :)
[12:26] <chiefinnovator> synic, what's a pebkac?
[12:26] <crimsun> AxelH: make sure you paste precisely what I typed
[12:26] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, #ubuntu-install /dev/sda
[12:26] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, it has solved the problem. ;)
[12:27] <AxelH> That gave me errors, complaining about non-existant files.
[12:27] <spunk__> synic: I previously had the problem that gnome spawned two esd:s. I disabled system sound in gnome and rebooted. when I logged in again, system sound was still enabled but only one esd was spawned. hence, problem fixed. Is it possible that gconf contained two entries?
[12:27] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: sound should work, then, after you're running 2.6.15
[12:27] <Michael> what is that
[12:27] <crimsun> AxelH: then you made another typo
[12:27] <synic> spunk__: dunno
[12:27] <spunk__> synic: ok
[12:27] <epton> hi. how can I run a command a startup under xubuntu?
[12:28] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, please check this page: wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[12:28] <fabiomazzarino> it's working now.
[12:28] <chiefinnovator> BTW I'm also frusterated that I can't link to bugs.  I go to a bug like this one, but if I bookmark its url I get error: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[12:28] <blakesmith> #user agent switcher craches my browser every time i switch
[12:28] <AxelH> Nevermind, I had a old string in it.
[12:28] <AxelH> Anyhow no result.
[12:28] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, now I'll wait until monday to see if fglrx is working.
[12:28] <AxelH> Want me to post a pastebin of it?
[12:28] <crimsun> AxelH: sure
[12:29] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, fireglecontrol is ok :)
[12:30] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, but fgl_glxgears doesn't
[12:30] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, what should I look at on this page?
[12:30] <AxelH> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22283
[12:30] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: I only look at alsa, sorry.
[12:30] <chiefinnovator> when will my bug get confirmed?
[12:30] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, no problem. I'm just chating now.
[12:30] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, some of those options, your bug can only be confirmed when someone with the same hardware has the same issue
[12:31] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, on monday I'll try xgl.
[12:31] <crimsun> AxelH: that doesn't show an error
[12:31] <synic> chiefinnovator: I doubt it will, unless you try those boot options on the wiki
[12:31] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, thanks again.
[12:31] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: np
[12:31] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, I think people have had the same issue
[12:31] <spunk__> When is the next version of Ubuntu coming?
[12:31] <AxelH> Never said it did either ;)
[12:31] <chiefinnovator> I linked to two bugs on that page with people having the same issue (I think)
[12:31] <OpeNZ> GoldenDragon: swap partition or file is an area where memory contents are dumped when the memory gets full - a bit like an overlow system
[12:31] <AxelH> But, didn't have any result with it.
[12:31] <fabiomazzarino> \quit thanks crimsun
[12:31] <i3d> how to change the default font color under console?
[12:31] <crimsun> AxelH: < AxelH> That gave me errors, complaining about non-existant files.
[12:32] <crimsun> AxelH: now use the value 3 instead of 2
[12:32] <AxelH> That was due to my own stupidity. Had an old string.
[12:32] <AxelH> Okay.
[12:32] <chiefinnovator> ompaul,  none of those boot options look applicable to me
[12:33] <AxelH> Nothing.
[12:33] <synic> chiefinnovator: try noapic nolapic
[12:33] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, biggest hitter is noapic nolapic
[12:33] <synic> try noacpi as well
[12:33] <crimsun> AxelH: ok, then you need to file a bug against linux-source-2.6.15
[12:33] <spunk__> How do I uninstall old kernels, and do I need to fix GRUB's menu manually afterwards?
[12:33] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, when done then you can say if they applied or not
[12:34] <crimsun> AxelH: include all the debugging info we've discussed (uname -r, /proc/asound/cards, amixer, etc.)
[12:34] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, I did hear that using a boot option called all-generic-ide might help
[12:34] <crimsun> AxelH: (and lspci -nv)
[12:34] <AxelH> Alright.
[12:34] <pip> where to fing unrar source package ?
[12:34] <tiede> hi all. Anyone knows the rationale for not being able to write to the folder "My Documents" from linux?
[12:34] <chiefinnovator> Has anyone heard of all generic ide boot option and how would I form it syntax wise?
[12:34] <pip> where to find unrar source package ?
[12:34] <erUSUL> !ntfs > tiede
[12:34] <pip> !unrar
[12:34] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:34] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, well stick it in as that on its own
[12:35] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, if it works please let us know
[12:35] <brooklyn> Can someone tell me, once a program is installed under... Say internet in the menu bar, how do i delete it from my system
[12:35] <pip> !info unrar-free
[12:35] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[12:35] <tiede> no. my fs is fat32 erUSUL
[12:35] <chiefinnovator> Ok, I'll go try those options.  And then I guess should I update my bug?
[12:35] <rgg> im having strange problems with amsn
[12:36] <chiefinnovator> BTW how do I know any Ubuntu officials have looked at my bug yet?
[12:36] <spunk__> brooklyn: uninstall the application with synaptic.
[12:36] <rgg> i open it and it runs normally until i sign on.after that,it runs really slowly and it's unusable
[12:37] <telematicas> mmm
[12:37] <rgg> strange,it's only on one account
[12:37] <brooklyn> spunk__: thanks.
[12:37] <kedar_> hey I have a quick question
[12:37] <tuxtux> notte @all
[12:37] <Jamminpotato> ok
[12:37] <Tehcarp> speak your call kedar_
[12:38] <kedar_> I'm trying to run a shell script
[12:38] <Jamminpotato> ok
[12:38] <tiede> I *can* edit other folders and have read/write access on them, except /My Documents, /My Pictures, /My Music and /My Videos
[12:38] <kedar_> but
[12:38] <] GoldenDragon> hmmm... when using the partitioner for installing ubuntu.... i'm at the screen to choose which is root, and which is swap.... i made a partition 500 mb large for my swap but it doesn't seem to appear.. am I doing something wrong?
[12:39] <TLE> Hey guys, I've got a question about a grub error code. Error 17 is mentioned several times in the forum and tells something about a wrong type of partition. But is tha partition it can't read the one the /boot/ dir is on or the ones the entries in the menu.lst points to?
[12:39] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, it is not how bugs get dealt with: please see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpingWithBugs and here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs that will explain it in a lot more detail
[12:39] <rshakin> ok something is wrong check this log out and tell me what you think http://madwifi.org/paste/161
[12:39] <kedar_> well the shell script has been written
[12:39] <kedar_> to restart in wish
[12:39] <kedar_> but when I try to run it, it says line 3: exec: @@WISH@@: not found
[12:39] <synic> !enter > kedar_
[12:39] <tiede> I *can* edit other folders and have read/write access on them, except /My Documents, /My Pictures, /My Music and /My Videos. My Windows filesystem is FAT32. Anyone knows why I can't write to the said folders?
[12:39] <kamilCzauz> hello....... i am having problems with my wireless network... i just put in a mini pci wifi card and it cant find any networks.... its an atheros ar5212... any help?
[12:40] <kedar_> what do I do :-(
[12:40] <jrib> tiede: what permissions are they mounted with?
[12:40] <spunk__> tiede: Obvious Q, but: have you checked the access bits?
[12:41] <mutk> tiede, fat32 does not support the ugo/rwx scheme. You need to mount the filesystem with a umask to get the permissions right.
[12:41] <tiede> /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       0, jrib
[12:41] <Tehcarp> How do I murder my sound in RO
[12:41] <DARKGuy> Greetings :) is there a way to start two windowed programs (xterm & gedit) using a bash script, but setting their window position and size in the script, so I don't have to resize and move them everytime?
[12:41] <chiefinnovator> I need a little help putting in these boot options, do I hit f6?  when I do that there's already a lot of junk there
[12:41] <mutk> tiede, Who's GID 46 ?
[12:41] <tiede> what is this access bits thing you are hinting at spunk__ ?
[12:41] <synic> chiefinnovator: just type it and press enter.
[12:41] <albacker> guys how do i know if i have drivers for my graphic card ? and acceleration enabled ? should i use any xserver-xorg- package ?
[12:42] <chiefinnovator> synic, what screen though?
[12:42] <spunk__> tiede; sorry, Im sleepy. :-) I mean the permissions.
[12:42] <DARKGuy> albacker: depends on your card's manufacturer
[12:42] <albacker> DARKGuy, as i can see from device manager i get this : 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
[12:42] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, (A) it is not junk (B) the instructions at the top of the page suggest you add them to the end of the line (if I remember correctly)
[12:42] <tiede> I don't know. I don't remember seeing anythin like that. I just copied over the output from /etc/fstab... It was automatically by Ubuntu on my first install, mutk
[12:43] <rshakin> anyone can tell me whats going on with my update why it's not working
[12:43] <albacker> DARKGuy, it's intel corporaation.. its graphic card into mobo
[12:43] <] GoldenDragon> hmmm... when using the partitioner for installing ubuntu.... i'm at the screen to choose which is root, and which is swap.... i made a partition 500 mb large for my swap but it doesn't seem to appear.. am I doing something wrong?
[12:43] <TLE> DARKGuy: Some programs have a geometry switch that allows you to do just that
[12:43] <rshakin> and how do i fix it
[12:43] <spunk__> tiede: if you do "ls -ld My\ Documents", what do you get?
[12:43] <rshakin> here is the log http://madwifi.org/paste/161
[12:43] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, ok so I'll just type them at the end,
[12:44] <DARKGuy> albacker: ah, integrated intel video card...... I *think* Intel has some drivers, but I'm not very sure about it (I have one too, but since I bought my GeForce I haven't got a way to test it here :P)
[12:44] <mutk> tiede, Ok. Try this     defaults,utf8,umask=000,user,noauto
[12:44] <DARKGuy> TLE: Ah, but if the program doesn't has that functionality, I can't do anything about that right? :P
[12:44] <albacker> DARKGuy, i get this :
[12:44] <albacker> eni@madgeek:~$ lspci | grep Grap
[12:44] <albacker> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[12:44] <kedar_> I need to run this shell script
[12:44] <tiede> dr-xr-x--- 8 root plugdev 16384 2006-08-04 02:40 My Documents, mutk
[12:44] <ompaul> !paste
[12:44] <albacker> does that compatible mean anything ?
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:44] <RedRose> The Site Offers little help, so would anyone mind answering a few kernel compiling questions
[12:44] <kedar_> but on line 3 it uses exec @@WISH@@
[12:44] <fishy> How do you create gzipped tars via the command line?
[12:45] <mutk> tiede, Ok so the plugdev group can read and execute on it..
[12:45] <spunk__> tiede: there you go, no write permissions.
[12:45] <kedar_> and it gives me a not found error
[12:45] <RedRose> I'm just wondering how to compile it after i've used make menuconfig
[12:45] <DARKGuy> albacker: lemme check something on the net
[12:46] <kedar_> how does wish work?
[12:46] <albacker> DARKGuy, ok.
[12:47] <tiede> I tried defaults,utf8,umask=000,user,noauto but I still can write...
[12:47] <TLE> DARKGuy: Ohh, I think you can, there is a program called devilspie that allows you to make rules about placement and stuff like that, but I'm not sure if it would solve your problem, and also it is a little hard to configure, but you rad about and see if you can figure if it can solve your problem. What is it that you want to do anyway ?
[12:47] <DARKGuy> albacker: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm?iid=graphics+865main& <- that has some info about Intel drivers on Linux, might be useful?
[12:47] <tiede> (yes, I did umount and mount)
[12:47] <TLE> What about my grub question, anyone ?
[12:47] <tiede> how do I go about fixing that, spunk__
[12:47] <mutk> tiede, Add rw to the options maybe??
[12:47] <rshakin> this is starting to bother me really alot
[12:47] <fishy> Anyone know how to put a bunch of files in a gzipped tar file via the command line?
[12:48] <rshakin> it seems to me i cant install or download any updates and or packages
[12:48] <albacker> DARKGuy, apt-cache says this is for i865 too, and i have 82865G maybe i need this :  xserver-xorg-driver-i810 ? or no ?
[12:48] <rshakin> from all of the tools
[12:48] <mutk> tiede, Oh and the user that is mounting is the user you want read write access for?
[12:48] <sabrina81> is there something like Macromedia Dreamweaver for Linux?
[12:48] <medwards> I have a problem with gnome not starting. I've narrowed down the error but need advice on how to proceed..
[12:48] <TLE> fishy: tar -zxvf file.tar.gz files
[12:48] <DARKGuy> TLE: Cool, I'll check that, thansk :) - well  I'm trying to learn SDL, and since I prefer the command line, I like to compile with xterm, and edit with gedit, but I want to place the windows stretched full to the screen so :P
[12:48] <TLE> fishy: I think
[12:49] <medwards> Here is my .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[12:49] <tiede> I have to go. I will surely try rw later on. Yes. I am the only user on the computer (That is, the only human user, mutk .) I wish I had more time. If anything goes wrong I will retry again next time. bye. And thanks all.
[12:49] <RawSewage_> I need Edgy help, but theres no one at Ubuntu+1.   I upgraded, (using Kubuntu), and X wont start.  getting error  -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied
[12:49] <spunk__> tiede: mutk knows, I think he/she will answer it shortly
[12:49] <DARKGuy> albacker: you just reminded me something. If it says it's for that card, you can try. I never used the xorg drivers for intel other than the generic ones
[12:49] <] GoldenDragon> what filesystem should my swap partition be?
[12:49] <RawSewage_> what can I do
[12:49] <Gel> ] GoldenDragon: swap
[12:50] <word> Ok..so i have a problem where when i leave my computer on for about 2 days...things start getting funky memory fills up etc. lots of seek errors (87% sure not an hd problem but the seek errors were pretty much present with X..if you'd like to help with those as well feel free ><) ) then when i restart Xgl doesn't start up..I got the output from dmesg after having it on for a couple days - http://pastebin.ca/156686 and after it fails to start up -
[12:50] <word> lized on this occurance of the problem..that by doing /etc/init.d/kdm restart xgl starts up fine now i would think this is kdm's fault or something but this never happened with X...any ideas?
[12:50] <] GoldenDragon> O_o
[12:50] <albacker> DARKGuy, after installing that one, should i reboot, and it applies ? im sorry but i'm not very informed here.. :( and is xfree better than xorg or not ?
[12:50] <tuxtheslacker> hey. can someone in here tell me a security room?
[12:50] <sabrina81> is there something like Macromedia Dreamweaver for Linux?
[12:50] <sethk> albacker, xorg was developed from an earlier version of xfree
[12:51] <DARKGuy> yup
[12:51] <tuxtheslacker> I need to find someone that knows how to use john the ripper as a brute force attack on ssh for a demonstration
[12:51] <sethk> albacker, I think xorg probably supports more hardware
[12:51] <DARKGuy> I think it's better than XFree
[12:51] <albacker> ok, thanks DARKGuy, thank you too sethk.
[12:51] <medwards> GNOME NOT STARTING, please help (/msg welcome): .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[12:52] <albacker> DARKGuy, xserver-xorg-driver-i810 is already the newest version. :S i think i have that.. anything else to do to improve anything ?
[12:52] <DARKGuy> albacker: oh and in answer, rebooting would be ideal, but killing the X server (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) or restarting GDM (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart) should do the trick. However I can't guarantee if you'll be back to X or ntt
[12:52] <DARKGuy> *not
[12:52] <DARKGuy> albacker: oh you already have it, then it's alright. You could -try- checking if you have some acceleration or not running glxgears
[12:53] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition filesystem linux-swap size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu
[12:53] <spunk__> I I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic. For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[12:53] <DARKGuy> albacker: else I guess you'll have to ask someone else or search the net how to activate GLX and/or DRI in your Intel chipset
[12:53] <albacker> DARKGuy, i can run glxgears, but how do i know if i do or dont have acceleration ?
[12:53] <sabrina81> is there something like Macromedia Dreamweaver for Linux?
[12:53] <rubyphyte> what is the best way to have something run as sudo at startup (or every once in a while)
[12:53] <chiefinnovator> These boot options suck.  I have no idea if I'm typing them right. For example I used as an option: Thissurelyisnotanopiton and it didn't complain.  There's got to be a place online to learn how to use boot options.
[12:53] <KwitcherBitchen> albacker, if you can run it you have it
[12:53] <KwitcherBitchen> :-)
[12:53] <DARKGuy> albacker: KwitcherBitchen is right :P
[12:54] <rubyphyte> I would like to run a dns update script I wrote
[12:54] <DARKGuy> sabrina81: you can use NVU
[12:54] <albacker> DARKGuy, and what is GLX/DRI needed ?
[12:54] <medwards> rubyphyte: /etc/crontab
[12:54] <DARKGuy> sabrina81: and SCREEM
[12:54] <chiefinnovator> This page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions almost helps but perhaps it was designed for an earlier ubuntu since it says to type linux before the option?
[12:54] <sabrina81> DARKGuy: I said "something like dreamwaver" :)
[12:54] <medwards> rubyphyte: see here for how to add to this file http://www.adminschoice.com/docs/crontab.htm
[12:54] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition filesystem linux-swap size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu
[12:54] <DARKGuy> sabrina81: well, NVU looks like dreamweaver :P
[12:55] <albacker> sabrina81, dreamweaver using wine/cedega/vmware
[12:55] <chiefinnovator> Ok, let's try this.  Has anyone here ever sucessfully used a boot option in Ubuntu Dapper?
[12:55] <medwards> GNOME NOT STARTING, please help (/msg welcome): .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[12:55] <DARKGuy> albacker: well it helps a lot for games
[12:55] <searayman> need help witch edgy knot 2
[12:55] <DARKGuy> albacker: it's like hardware acceleration in windows, but for Linux
[12:55] <albacker> DARKGuy, i wanted to try, XGL, might it help ?
[12:55] <sabrina81> DARKGuy: "screem" what is?
[12:55] <DARKGuy> sabrina81: another HTML/web/dreamweaver-like editor :P
[12:55] <DARKGuy> albacker: nope, that's an OpenGL-powered X
[12:56] <spunk__> I I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic. For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[12:56] <sabrina81> take a look
[12:56] <searayman> anyboddy know anythign about edgy knot 2?
[12:56] <DARKGuy> albacker: and it requires a very good 3D card. Mine can't even run it xD.
[12:56] <chiefinnovator> well I'm going to do something about this.  If I ever figure out "boot options" I'm going to document it on the internet for everyone to see!
[12:56] <albacker> DARKGuy, i can run it, but sloow , might i need this xserver-xorg-air-core - X server with accelerated indirect 3D support
[12:56] <rubyphyte> medwards: but does that run it as sudo?  Can I just put an executable script in the /etc/cron.hourly/ to have it be executed once an hour
[12:57] <chiefinnovator> and what's the deal with IRC?  How can 30 people have 30 conversations at once?
[12:57] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition filesystem linux-swap size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu
[12:57] <medwards> rubyphyte: yes
[12:57] <JKirk_> I'm wondering if anyone can help me... I've been tyring to get my wireless card working on boot up.  I use WPA-PSK and I can get it working from the terminal window, but I can't seem to figure out how to make it boot up with it so I don't have to do that... Is there some way to run wpa_supplicant as root during boot?
[12:57] <medwards> rubyphyte: all cron jobs are run as root (which is what running something as sudo does)
[12:57] <searayman> edgy knot2?????????????????????????/
[12:57] <rubyphyte> oh ok
[12:57] <medwards> god it's busy in here..
[12:57] <rubyphyte> medwards: so just drop the script in the cron.hourly dir and it should be fine
[12:57] <searayman> i found a bug in edgy knot 2
[12:57] <medwards> yuppers
[12:58] <skarface> congratulations
[12:58] <medwards> make sure you can execute it and you'll be fine
[12:58] <medwards> (ie ./scriptname)
[12:58] <DARKGuy> albacker: whoah, never heard of that one. If you have quite experience handling yourself in the terminal and know some shell commands you can try that, and if it doesn't works remove it and put your normal xorg. I've never messed with those, only long time ago, and that was the kind of solution that worked
[12:58] <void^> JKirk_: zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz
[12:58] <ompaul> searayman, so that is what launchpad is for
[12:58] <spunk__> I I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic. For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[12:58] <DARKGuy> albacker: something is sure: using glxgears is proof that you have acceleration in X
[12:59] <searayman> ompaul:  last time i posted a bug there eveyone ignored it
[12:59] <albacker> DARKGuy, thanks for answering my questions.
[12:59] <rubyphyte> medwards: beautiful! thanks!
[12:59] <DARKGuy> albacker: you're welcome, I'm no expert but I tried my best ^^
[12:59] <Thomas3> wireless problem: I use iwconfig to set essid, ap, wep and the channel; dhclient3 doesn't get me an IP; works perfect in XP; same config works perfect on other networks; what can I look at? it's just that it doesn't get an IP
[12:59] <searayman> ompaul: and i posted it there already, coudl u take a look at it?
[12:59] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition, linux-swap filesystem, size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu
[12:59] <ompaul> searayman, talk in #ubuntu-bugs
[01:00] <medwards> rubyphyte: All I ask in exchange is that you help me get support for my problem ;P (j/k)
[01:00] <Rug> Howdy all
[01:00] <medwards> GNOME NOT STARTING, please help (/msg welcome): .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[01:00] <Mikey> Can anyone recommend a flash player? Not a plugin for mozilla or anything, but something to run them on the desktop.
[01:00] <jvai> hey peepz
[01:00] <brooklyn> hello
[01:00] <s0n1> hi
[01:00] <Thomas3> medwards: I have that EVERYTIME I do not force fsck on restart; I asked around, no answer
[01:01] <s0n1> i dist-upgrade in my ubuntu for edgy and my xorg sucks
[01:01] <s0n1> someone knows ?
[01:01] <rubyphyte> medwards: when did it break?
[01:01] <medwards> After a reboot yesterday
[01:01] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, first off by not using my name this channel did not highlight I am in several channels, I am going to look at the boot options page again (as I was its initial author but others have added stuff since then)
[01:01] <medwards> Machine had been running quite awhile prior but I haven't touched any Gnome or Xorg files in awhile.
[01:02] <rubyphyte> medwards: you didn't get that bad patch that went out a week or two ago did you?
[01:02] <Thomas3> for me, gnome doesn't restart unless I force a fsck on reboot; it loads but no desktop and menu
[01:02] <spunk__> I I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic. For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[01:02] <medwards> Thomas3: That's odd a filesystem error causes the script to break?
[01:02] <medwards> rubyphyte: It's very possible that I did
[01:02] <JKirk_> void^ you rock!!! thanks!
[01:02] <medwards> What package should I reinstall
[01:02] <JKirk_> I did a search on ubuntu and wpa and never found that info.... thanks again!
[01:02] <Thomas3> medwards: I'm not sure what is the reason, I don't really know where to look at either :) I can spend time, but I don't know where to start
[01:02] <s0n1> someone knows have problem in edgy and xorg ?
[01:03] <christopher> i need help with sound i was watching a video last night and  turned the audio  all the way down  with my  keyboard  audio down  botton now i can turn the sound  back on  sound works on the live  cd  just not my normal  instalation i used  volume control to turn it up  but no luck
[01:03] <christopher> can not
[01:03] <rubyphyte> medwards: have you tried update/upgrade?  I have no idea I hadn't upgraded while it was out, you should be able to google it, it got slashdotted and everything...I know there are instructions if that's the problem
[01:03] <Thomas3> I don't know also why I need the fsck, because if I don't force it, it doesn't run on reboot, so I guess the filesystem is clean; I'm really lost there
[01:03] <medwards> Thomas3: Sure, I'm going to see what this bad update was and if that fails I'll run fsck
[01:04] <[apoRt] > christopher, is the sound muted in alsamixer?
[01:04] <rubyphyte> medwards: good luck! I'm afraid I don't know anything else particularly useful
[01:04] <jvai> anybody noticedthat the ubuntu shutdown sound.. i s similar to the macintosh start up sound? pretty kool
[01:04] <Mikey> Has anyone had any experience with swf-playeR?
[01:04] <Mikey> *swf-player
[01:04] <AxelH> I have.
[01:04] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, sorry but you really need to read that thing again, what it is saying that it needs the name of a kernel at the beginning of a line (in ubuntu it is linux) it also says to tag the phrase at the end of the line - so you have to just open the line for editing and add the ones you think might help
[01:05] <christopher> sound isnt muted
[01:05] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition, linux-swap filesystem, size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu I see hda1, which has my windows partition, hda2 which i hope to use as my ubuntu partition, and hda3
[01:05] <Mikey> AxelH, I installed it with synaptic, but what next? It didn't add it to my menu, and there doesn't seem to be a swf-player command?
[01:05] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, actually I will make it a lot more accurate
[01:05] <brooklyn> Is there any major difference in the gAim that comes with ubuntu, and gAim 2.0 beta3 available in automatix??
[01:05] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, Thanks.  I just found that page confusing
[01:06] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, just stick the "magic" words on the end of the line and reboot
[01:06] <Mikey> Bleh. AxelH nevermind, I mis-read the description.
[01:06] <edju> My cd drive will mount and read a cd and a dvd, but not a cd-r.  Is this a software or a hardware  problem?  Anyone?
[01:06] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, Since I ranted, I went ahead and "reverse engineering" how the boot options work
[01:06] <chiefinnovator> I can update that page now
[01:06] <afm\colo> edju: check `dmesg` for clues
[01:07] <chiefinnovator> turns out the space after the -- is significant
[01:07] <spunk__> I I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic. For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[01:07] <chiefinnovator> I found that to be a point of confusion since most command arguments go --somearg
[01:07] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, no read that
[01:07] <RedRose> !xgl
[01:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:07] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, read what?
[01:07] <ompaul> actually let me edit it again
[01:07] <[apoRt] > christopher, what sound card do you use?
[01:08] <christopher> es371
[01:08] <smax> hi gang
[01:08] <brooklyn> Is there any major difference in the gAim that comes with ubuntu, and gAim 2.0 beta3 available in automatix??
[01:08] <smax> whats a good application to burn iso files so that they are bootable?
[01:08] <edju> afm\colo, I have checked dmesg - a bunch of error msgs, like "isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16"
[01:08] <christopher> es1371 is my sound card
[01:08] <afm\colo> seems like the media is borked
[01:09] <[apoRt] > christopher, type lsmod | grep snd_ac97_codec
[01:09] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, I have finished my edits
[01:09] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, that kind of works but not quiet noob friendly.  Probably just tell them to type f6 and just type in their desired options
[01:09] <[apoRt] > that will check to see if your sound card's module is loaded
[01:09] <ompaul> hmm
[01:09] <mcphail> smax: nautilus, k3b, anything really
[01:09] <edju> afm\colo, by "media", you mean the cd itself?
[01:09] <afm\colo> yes
[01:09] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, Looking better.  How about getting rid of this line "When presented with the text on the screen "boot: "
[01:09] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, that is for installing - this is for a reboot
[01:09] <smax> if i right click> write to disk  to an iso file(linux cd),  will it be bootable?
[01:09] <afm\colo> but corporate media is borked, too, in general ;)
[01:09] <smax> im down to my last CD-R
[01:10] <edju> afm\colo, I doubt it - no cd-r will mount, they can't all be bad.
[01:10] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, reboot?  What do you mean?  I am installing
[01:10] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, rright I need to think about additional data in there
[01:10] <afm\colo> which program did you record them with?
[01:10] <mcphail> smax: if it is a bootable image then yes
[01:10] <edju> afm\colo, cdrecord, mostly.
[01:10] <afm\colo> hm i see
[01:10] <smax> great.  ubuntu is great
[01:10] <smax> my debian box is giving me crap
[01:10] <afm\colo> tried mounting with -t iso9660 specifially yet?
[01:10] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, your F6 is is install specific - however there is a use case where the install works but fails to reboot
[01:10] <mcphail> smax: you want an option saying something like "burn image" or "write image"
[01:11] <Byan> how do I know what the package name is for something I want to install?
[01:11] <smax> the button just says write
[01:11] <smax> but ok
[01:11] <edju> afm\colo, Some burned on a Mac.  Yes, i've tried -t iso9660.
[01:11] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, we need additional data, feel free to do the install part to preceed this
[01:11] <spunk__> I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic? For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[01:11] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, give me a minute to do a preamble
[01:11] <jrib> Byan: search for key terms using synaptic
[01:12] <Byan> how do I use synaptic...
[01:12] <christopher> working now wonder what went wrong  after i did that command it showed muted icon
[01:12] <Byan> I only have a console..
[01:12] <Flannel> Byan: use aptitude if you want a GUI
[01:12] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, BTW I tried all-generic-ide and it did give me a different error message than usual.  It said "busybox ..." and then "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" and then gives me a command prompt
[01:12] <Flannel> Byan: or, apt-cache search
[01:12] <minerale> hi, could someone help me understand why my fonts are so big: http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotxa1.png (look at the emacs menu)
[01:13] <minerale> I have tried preferences/fonts, albeit that has done little
[01:13] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, way beyond me talk to #ubuntu-bugs
[01:13] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, trying all of the other options didn't work, I'll update my bug with the info
[01:13] <pianoboy3333> Is there a way to access my tivo in linux?
[01:13] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, wow there's a bugs IRC room! sweet
[01:14] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, where is the preamble going?  That same page?
[01:14] <prophet5> 804 members
[01:14] <mikeconcepts> what is the abbreviation ack in IRC chat?
[01:14] <chiefinnovator> Offtopic: I haven't eaten anything today
[01:14] <edju> Is there a way to install (k)ubuntu w/o a cd or floppy?  Maybe from an empty partition?
[01:14] <Byan> Flannel: how do I use aptitude
[01:14] <Flannel> !tell edju about install
[01:15] <chiefinnovator> edju, try instlux  but it didn't work for me.  Has anyone else had succes with that?
[01:15] <Flannel> edju: that first link gives you a lot of methods, depending on what you have
[01:15] <chiefinnovator> !tell
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <Flannel> Byan: type "sudo aptitude"
[01:15] <marcelino> how to get mp3 to work with unbuntu?
[01:15] <Flannel> !tell marcelino about mp3
[01:15] <chiefinnovator> !tell chiefinnovator about install
[01:15] <chiefinnovator> Flannel, what does tell do?
[01:16] <Byan> Flannel: I'm in aptitude...
[01:16] <Mikey> !mp3 >> Mikey
[01:16] <chiefinnovator> !tell chiefinnovator about life
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <mutk> !help > mutk
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <Mikey> !mp3 > Mikey
[01:16] <Byan> can't figure out what I am doing though
[01:16] <jvai> lol
[01:16] <Flannel> chiefinnovator: !tell [person]  about [thing]  is the same as [thing]  > [person]   from ubotu.
[01:16] <chiefinnovator> Flannel, what is ubotu?
[01:16] <chiefinnovator> hmm, wait
[01:16] <Flannel> !tell chiefinnovator about ubotu
[01:16] <chiefinnovator> !tell chiefinnovator about ubotu
[01:16] <chiefinnovator> ha ha
[01:17] <Flannel> Byan: theres a menu bar across the top, you're trying to search for a package?
[01:17] <chiefinnovator> !tell chiefinnovator about boot options
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boot options - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <Byan> yeah.., but how do I get to that menu bar...
[01:17] <gahan> is there a quick solution for adding an action 'Enqueue in XMMS (playlist)' for the RMB menu?
[01:17] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, what are you doing for the preamble?  I want to help
[01:17] <gahan> in gnome2 :)
[01:17] <Flannel> Byan: you hit f10 to get to the menu, it's the first thing on the line below that telling you what keys do what
[01:18] <Flannel> Byan: or, type ? to get help
[01:18] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition, linux-swap filesystem, size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu I see hda1, which has my windows partition, hda2 which i hope to use as my ubuntu partition, and hda3
[01:18] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, I am working on it you can see it when I am done
[01:18] <wolki_> gahan: use nautilus-actions... or try open with -> custom xmms -e
[01:18] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, will it be on the same page?
[01:18] <Byan> how did I manage to do that
[01:19] <Byan> Flannel: ahh ok
[01:19] <omnid> !laptop
[01:19] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[01:20] <christopher> how do i set all volumes to default
[01:20] <] GoldenDragon> can someone help me partition my computer so that I can have 1 partition for windows, 1 for ubuntu(and for its swap) and 1 which I can share between ubuntu and windowsxp?
[01:20] <omnid> ] GoldenDragon I suggest making the 3rd partition FAT32
[01:21] <omnid> But other than that I don't know what to do step by step
[01:22] <Byan> well..
[01:22] <Byan> anyone recommend a ftpd?
[01:23] <chiefinnovator> !tell chiefinnovator about IRC
[01:23] <ompaul> chiefinnovator I am done with it, it is the same page
[01:24] <smax> nautilus says that my iso file is not a valid image, when it is.
[01:24] <smax> it's from the gentoo site
[01:24] <smax> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml  the x86 button
[01:24] <smax> it's the only image for x86 therefor it has to be
[01:24] <ompaul> !enter
[01:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:25] <] GoldenDragon> can someone help me partition my computer so that I can have 1 partition for windows, 1 for ubuntu(and for its swap) and 1 which I can share between ubuntu and windowsxp?
[01:25] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, that's much better.  I took some pictures of the boot screen.  Is that worth adding?  Noobs like pictures
[01:25] <arthomps> dragon, need an fat32 partition.
[01:25] <smax> or you can just ditch windows all together and use linux
[01:25] <falco> whats an easy program i should use for software soundmixing?
[01:25] <] GoldenDragon> arthomps, yes i'm trying that..
[01:26] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, we don't tend to use the N word here, all users and in particular new ones are welcome :)
[01:26] <] GoldenDragon> so right now i have one ntfs(on windows) one ext3 which i plan to use for ubuntu, one linux-swap which i'm hoping to use for swap and 1 fat32... but
[01:26] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, if you think it works with it go for it
[01:26] <] GoldenDragon> whenever i try to select my swap partition, i don't find the linux-swap partition in the menu.
[01:27] <medwards> GNOME NOT STARTING, please help (/msg welcome): .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[01:27] <] GoldenDragon> ?
[01:27] <falco> whats an easy program i should use for software soundmixing?
[01:27] <falco> hello?
[01:28] <christopher> audacity is a sound mixer
[01:28] <falco> i mean like dmix
[01:28] <alexkr> is there a certain manufacturer of laptops that people in the ubuntu community generally like the most?
[01:29] <jvai> ibm thinkpads..!!!
[01:29] <jvai> t models
[01:29] <windmill> anyone any good a setting up samba shares?
[01:29] <s0n1> what's i knows a edgy and xorg ?
[01:30] <alexkr>  yeah i had a thinkpad 10 years ago.. damn good laptop (i have an old ibook right now)
[01:31] <falco> omg hey shitheads
[01:31] <falco> listen to me
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> alexkr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[01:31] <jvai> <-- thinkpad t40, ubuntu 5.04.. beauuutifuul
[01:31] <mindmedic> jvai: you speak for the community, right ^^
[01:31] <jvai> lol.. noo
[01:32] <jvai> uall r tooo bleeding edge for me
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: what was your question
[01:32] <mindmedic> alexkr: More generally I would say anything that is a Centrino will work quite well.
[01:33] <mindmedic> As the components (CPU, WLAN, Mobo) are well supported.
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> alexkr: That link has most of the information you would need to make an educated decision
[01:34] <Hit3k> When I start to play a movie in gxine no sound comes out its the same with all other movie players yet sound works fine on just music files
[01:34] <medwards> GNOME NOT STARTING, please help (/msg welcome): .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[01:34] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know how I can access things on my tivo from my computer with ubuntu?
[01:34] <mindmedic> Hit3k: ake sure your video player uses "esd" output
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> pianoboy3333: Is your tivo hacked for access yet
[01:35] <pianoboy3333> Jack_Sparrow: I don't know... probably not
[01:35] <pianoboy3333> Jack_Sparrow: what kind of hacking does this require?
[01:35] <Hit3k> mindmedic, no... how can i set that up in totem?
[01:35] <Hit3k> I've decided to use that
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> pianoboy3333: Not a discussion of here, but let me find you a link...
[01:36] <stickystyle> I'm trying to give the epiphany browser a good try, but I am totally stuck on how i install userscripts (with the greasemonkey) extension, and how I setup the rules for the ad-block extension...Anybody know?  I'm pretty sure I have been through every menu.
[01:36] <Silverwizard> Hey, just got a new shiney, Laptop Intel Celeron Duo, which Ubuntu version should I download, I believe i386, but am I wrong?
[01:36] <rgg> my amsn definetely hates me
[01:36] <rgg> i have 2 accounts,but one is just for really close friends and i want to go on with the other to talk to some people
[01:37] <zax1> i intend to get an ssl cert for my site so i can secure certain part of my site. i am being asked by my hosting company do i want the ssl installed on the entire server or just the www. part of it.  i do not understandthe implicaitons, any suggestions ?
[01:37] <rgg> but it won't sign on,when i select it on the "profile selector" (sic) i receive a message that says that the account is being used in another AMSN session
[01:37] <rgg> BUT THERE IS NO OTHER AMSN SESSION AT ALL IN MY COMPUTER
[01:37] <Flannel> Silverwizard: right
[01:37] <Silverwizard> thanks alot
[01:37] <rgg> what the hell is going wrong?this thing is really getting on my nerves
[01:37] <mindmedic> Hit3k: totem uses the settings of "gstreamer-properties"
[01:38] <Silverwizard> Greasemonkey should autoinstall scripts if you simply go to them using the browser
[01:38] <mindmedic> launch "gstreamer-properties" and make sure it uses "esd" output
[01:38] <Flannel> rgg: sounds like the account is in use, are you logged on somewhere else?
[01:38] <Silverwizard> Anyway, need to get off this XP so I am gonna go get Ubunutu
[01:38] <jvai> msn did sumthyn phishy to the IM protocol
[01:38] <Robm05> I have a question..
[01:38] <rgg> Flannel: no,absolutely.i mean,i'm using Gaim now,but i receive the same message when it's closed
[01:39] <Hit3k> mindmedic, it had auto
[01:39] <Hit3k> thanks :)
[01:39] <stickystyle> Silverwizard: yeah, thats how firefox always did it and it though epiphany would also.  But it just sits there at the js code with no pop-up to install like firefox..
[01:39] <rgg> would i solve the problem if i deleted the profile and re-created it?
[01:39] <Flannel> rgg: no idea.  You might try checking out amsn's website, see if its a known problem or an issue with MS changing the protocols again, or whatnot
[01:39] <mindmedic> Hit3k: try "esd" and check if that works
[01:39] <songo> I've just burned a dvd-rw. how do I mount it?
[01:39] <Hit3k> mindmedic, i did and i clicked test and scared myself  :|
[01:39] <Flannel> Robm05: Just ask, there's no need to get permission to ask
[01:40] <jvai> look in the tmp folder, there should be an html file. linked to your *opened* hotmail account, aftr opening msn im on gaim :(
[01:40] <rgg> jvai: gonna try it
[01:40] <mindmedic> Hit3k: esd mixes audio from different applications into one stream which is send to the sound card. so many programs can use one sound card
[01:40] <habeeb> Greetings, I think that I lost my direct rendering the moment I upgraded to 2.6.17 kernel :/. Well, fglrxinfo is normal, but glxinfo | grep render, will show "Direct Rendering: No" . Some help would be more than appreciated ^^
[01:40] <Hit3k> mindmedic, it still doesnt work :/
[01:41] <mindmedic> Hit3k: what was so scary?
[01:41] <rgg> jvai: there isn't any html file
[01:41] <Hit3k> the beep
[01:41] <rgg> Flannel: let me try that
[01:41] <Hit3k> I forgot I had my sound all the way up
[01:41] <jvai> now close it
[01:41] <rgg> jvai: gaim?
[01:41] <Serendib> Im just starting with ubuntu and im trying to install the newest nvidia drivers... usually in SuSE i'd just init 3 and sh the .run file... how do I init 3 in ubuntu? Or is there some other way to install the drivers
[01:41] <jvai> no, just the msn im..log out
[01:41] <mindmedic> Hit3k: you said sound files work fine. which program do you use to play them=
[01:42] <ago> soundmachine
[01:42] <rgg> jvai: i'm not logged on (sic :P) anywhere
[01:43] <Solenoid> Hey, I had a question - I put my ubuntu install HD in with another motherboard, and tit stops loading at the kubuntu splash screen.  A ctrl-alt-del sends it to the proer shutdown though. anyone know whats going on?
[01:43] <jvai> i think my problem is i have mail notifications turned on on msn im.. is why thast happens
[01:43] <ardchoille> What command do I use to get a size of a directory? Not nterested in listing its files, just need to know how much disk space the dir is taking up.
[01:43] <Solenoid> du
[01:43] <zax1> is there any significant differance between kubuntu and ubuntu ? or is it just the desktop manager ? k Vs gnome ?
[01:43] <Solenoid> k vs. gnome
[01:43] <Flannel> Solenoid: you should turn off the splash image to figure out where it's having prblems
[01:44] <Hit3k> mindmedic, rhythm box
[01:44] <Flannel> zax1: no.  Just that.  They use the same repositories, etc (and you can have both installed)
[01:44] <Solenoid> Flannel: is there an easy way to do that?
[01:44] <ardchoille> Solenoid: Thank you :)
[01:44] <Solenoid> np
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> zax1: Just your choice of desktop
[01:44] <mindmedic> Hit3k: rhythmbox also uses the settings in gstreamer-preferences.
[01:44] <Flannel> Solenoid: at the grub menu, turn off quiet... and... hmm, something about a splash, if I remember correctly
[01:44] <habeeb> Ok I'll change the question. What do I need to remove so that I can follow the fglrx howto again, and get direct rendering? I have to remove and purge a package. For example in nvidia, I have to purge nvidia-kernel-common before reinstalling fglrx.
[01:44] <Solenoid> hehe
[01:45] <erdrick> how can you tell who is on the channel?
[01:45] <mindmedic> maybe the video you are trying to play uses an unsupported audio codec?
[01:45] <Solenoid>  ./names
[01:45] <Robm05> A few weeks ago I ordered my Ubuntu CD's, got them today.. But now I have to think if I want to put it on my laptop or not. I have a desktop right now running XP (it hosts my internet connection) and I have my laptop.. My laptop while running XP overheats and crashes quite often, while I'm not sure if running a version of Linux would keep -that- from happening, I can't decide if I want to actually install it. I have a Palm TX that I synch up with my
[01:45] <erdrick> ./names
[01:45] <Robm05> Woah.. Sorry about the length of that
[01:45] <habeeb> erdrick: Without the "."
[01:45] <erdrick> lol
[01:45] <erdrick> sorry
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> zax1: KDE is more XP like, that is better for some new converts to Linux, or gnome, which I prefer, it is a personal choice, run the live of each to get a feel for it
[01:45] <habeeb> :)
[01:45] <Hit3k> mindmedic, i have no clue then :/
[01:45] <jvai> ubuntu runs cooler, from my experiences
[01:46] <ubuntu> WTf
[01:46] <ubuntu> ok
[01:46] <ubuntu> ?
[01:46] <mindmedic> try the totem-xine package.
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Robm05: My HP laptop was overheating and having problems until I installed Ubuntu
[01:46] <zax1> thanks jack,flanel
[01:46] <mindmedic> it uses the playback of the xine video player, which supports more formats than totem-gstreamer.
[01:47] <Robm05> Jack_Sparrow: But do you think I'll still be able to use my laptop for all my school stuff? I'm a nursing student and my only printer is a Lexmark :-/
[01:47] <erdrick> BlueEagle: hello
[01:47] <jvai> oo
[01:47] <coder2000> I am trying to add files to rythymbox but all the mp3's I try adding it says not a valid audio stream
[01:47] <rgg> oh god
[01:47] <rgg> amsn is a bitch
[01:47] <mindmedic> and if you install the w32codecs package you can even play odd stuff like real-video and quicktime...
[01:47] <Flannel> coder2000: have you added mp3 codecs yet?
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Robm05: Look at the hardware support page for your printer, Cannon are a problem, some of the lexmark are also a problem, stable.. that is not a problem
[01:48] <rgg> all my fake profiles and profiles of other people that gave me their passwords for safety etc work
[01:48] <rgg> only my real profile won't log on
[01:48] <mindmedic> there is a script called "easyubuntu" to help you with getting proper media support.
[01:48] <Solenoid> Heres the error (after I log in command line, then startx): fatal server error: no screens found
[01:48] <Flannel> rgg: your account MUST be logged on elsewhere then
[01:48] <Solenoid> Porlly need to run the xconfig
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: Friends dont let friends try easyubuntu or automatix
[01:49] <rgg> Flannel: i'm going to manually delete the profile to see what's going on
[01:49] <rgg> i "backupped" (lol) all the important things
[01:49] <mindmedic> Jack_Sparrow: did I miss something the last weeks? are the scripts broken?
[01:49] <rgg> and i'm going for it
[01:49] <Flannel> rgg: backed up, and... it might not be amsn, that's an msn error, not necessarily an amsn specific one.  Could be other computers, could be... whatever else msn uses.
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: They have never been recomended here.. we see systems here every day that were broken by those scripts
[01:50] <rgg> might not be,but i'm going to try anyway
[01:50] <songo> which is the fs type to mount a dvd-rw?
[01:50] <rgg> i hope i dont lose anything important lol
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: They work 98% of the time...  Feeling lucky..
[01:50] <coder2000> Flannel: what package would I need for that?
[01:50] <Flannel> !tell coder2000 about mp3
[01:51] <Ych> hmmm, i closed an app, and my xgl crashed, or rather compiz i think... in any case i had no more window borders, I used metacity --replace to get the borders back, but they weren't the xgl skin borders, but rather the normal gnome skin... anyone know a way to get back the xgl?
[01:51] <mindmedic> Jack_Sparrow: I only used them for dvdcss and w32codecs, so I might have a better impression of them ^^
[01:51] <Flannel> Ych: #ubuntu-xgl
[01:51] <mindmedic> thanks for the warning
[01:51] <Ych> theres no one there, Flannel
[01:51] <Flannel> Ych: try #xgl then
[01:52] <mindmedic> but where should someone get the w32codecs then? marillat?
[01:52] <Ych> ok
[01:52] <Flannel> mindmedic: they're in the repositories
[01:52] <mindmedic> in multiverse?
[01:52] <Flannel> !info w32codecs
[01:52] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: np, it is just more educational to teach people how to do things for themselves. Simple scripts for single items like diskmounter are not bad.. but people dont learn from them unless they read the commands used in them
[01:52] <Flannel> Ah, so, seveas repositories ;)
[01:54] <Naosz> hey guys my buddy is thinking about Linux/Ubuntu but has an ATI card (I'm Nvid) how hard is it to get the drivers installed for one?
[01:54] <creyon_> mindmedic: wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[01:54] <Solenoid> do any of you use VLC (video lan client)?  it has very good file support
[01:54] <mindmedic> Jack_Sparrow: I don't see a need for an average user understanding mounting and unmounting filesystems.
[01:54] <len> Hey, what's the command to format a usb disk?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: Which is why I do recommend diskmounter script
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: but that is the only one I do recommend..
[01:55] <jvai> or.. go here http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html , dl, then extract it in your home folder, aftr  using  easyubuntu, dl the essetial codecs for your system.. that worked for me
[01:55] <blaq> len: cfdisk will do the trick
[01:55] <blaq> you need to know what device your usb disk is though
[01:55] <blaq> probably /dev/sdaX
[01:55] <mindmedic> n8
[01:56] <morodock> I just installed ubuntu on a sony viao laptop and its working quite well. But I read somewhere that since this has a dual core cpu, I should've installed the 686 version. Can I upgrade to that? or do I need to do a full reinstall?
[01:56] <len> blaq: thx
[01:56] <blaq> that will alter the partition table, then you can create the fs via mkfs.<filesystem>
[01:56] <Flannel> morodock: yeah, just install the new kernel (you'll need to reboot for it to go into effect)
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> morodock: You can add the 686 kernel and be able to boot either
[01:56] <morodock> thx jack
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:57] <mindmedic> morodock: Or you can install Gentoo 2006.1 and tune OpenOffice.org with --funroll-loops. Just kidding.. goood night.
[01:57] <len> blaq: it's saying that I dont have permition to write even with sudo
[01:58] <blaq> what are you typing in?
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> len: is it formatted ntfs now?
[01:58] <Robm05> Jack_Sparrow: I'm just not sure if I can do everything I need to do with ubuntu (or kubuntu, which I'm leaning towards more) I'd like to start trying to get a bit more into learning a programming language (C or C++, depending on my mood when I start).. As I said I'm a Nursing Student and I plan to use my laptop for school and my other side projects.. My main concern is my Palm pilot, but I have a two way switch on my two computers right now so if I 
[01:59] <len> Jack_Sparrow: nah it's fat32
[01:59] <shakakai> <---big noob
[02:00] <coder2000> any idea how to get NetworkManager to detect when a wireless connection has been lost?
[02:00] <shakakai> whats the command to run a python script from the command line
[02:00] <prophet5> lol
[02:00] <prophet5> py
[02:00] <Guitarhero11> Im having problems with sound, i have tried various speakers and soundcards to the same effect.  i cant get sound to work in wolfenstein or my nes emulator
[02:00] <shakakai> yay
[02:00] <Guitarhero11> and sometimes my right speaker doesnt work
[02:00] <shakakai> :)
[02:01] <Guitarhero11> occassionally everything randomly works but then it all randomly stops working
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Robm05: gnome pilot and read this link.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3591
[02:01] <coder2000> any idea how to get NetworkManager to detect when a wireless connection has been lost?
[02:02] <hdkiller> Guitarhero11, sudo apt-get install alsa-oss  # ?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Robm05: You may pm me to avoid long posts
[02:02] <Guitarhero11> I've done that
[02:02] <Guitarhero11> ill do it again to make sure hold on
[02:02] <prophet5> did you start oss
[02:02] <Guitarhero11> yep its installed
[02:02] <Guitarhero11> how
[02:03] <shakakai> anyone know how to run zope-kupu?
[02:03] <Guitarhero11> prophet5 how do i do that
[02:04] <Teller> Hi! I can't get my USB mouse to work on my touchpad equipped laptop.. When I move the mouse while I cat /dev/input/mouse0 I get output, so the kernel finds it alright.. More info on http://pastebin.ca/158173
[02:04] <matthewburke> is there a well know apt repo for swiftfox?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> I really did not intend to hang out in here this afternoon, so when the wife shows up I will be gone..fast.. yes, I am wooped
[02:05] <hdkiller> Guitarhero11, lsmod | grep -c snd_pcm_oss
[02:05] <sris> Hi! Im installing ubuntu (and linux) for the first time. And i'm having som problem to get the partition utility to work. I've got an unformated/partitioned drive im telling the installation program that i want to create a swap partition and a partition for the system. Everything seems to work fine when the "changes are beeing made" but in the next screen of the setup, the partitions arent listed. when i click back to the partition page, both of them got an error in
[02:05] <prophet5> google is your friend : )
[02:05] <Guitarhero11> When I do that it says 4
[02:05] <Guitarhero11> does that mean anything
[02:06] <ubuntu> quick question i have a windows partion that has all my mp3s on it while in my linux partition is it possible to play these mp3s off the windows partition
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sris: Are you telling the installer to use all unallocated space or are you trying to set them up manually.. (These are non-raid correct)
[02:07] <hdkiller> Guitarhero11, that's mean you have oss pcm in your kernel loaded as module
[02:07] <hdkiller> so that's fine
[02:07] <Abst> Where would I put a program to make it runnable by root (via sudo)
[02:07] <Abst> Its a bash program
[02:07] <Guitarhero11> hdkiller is that bad or good
[02:07] <Guitarhero11> that means it worked right
[02:07] <sris> Jack_Sparrow: im trying to do it manually, im making the swap 2gb and the other the rest of that drive.
[02:07] <sris> it's an IDE-disc, no raid.
[02:07] <Beast> quick question i have a windows partion that has all my mp3s on it while in my linux partition is it possible to play these mp3s off the windows partition
[02:08] <hdkiller> Guitarhero11,  sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[02:08] <Teller> Beast: I was going to answer you, but given that I dislike repetetive people..
[02:08] <Guitarhero11> hdkiller: that returns this - bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: Permission denied
[02:08] <Beast> wow
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> sris: Please try to let it automagically set it up.. see if it goes through..
[02:08] <hdkiller> use sudo please
[02:09] <Guitarhero11> I did and it did not prompt me for the password
[02:09] <sris> Jack_Sparrow: ok i will, i was just afraid it might do something with my other drives ;)
[02:09] <Guitarhero11> ill sudo su first
[02:09] <Beast> sorry for trying to get my question out there
[02:09] <hdkiller> fine, try enemy territory then
[02:09] <sris> because i've got windows installed on the same machine and it got a lot of drives in it ;)
[02:09] <Guitarhero11> alright one second
[02:10] <Teller> Beast: Imagine if everyone did that
[02:10] <Beast> christ this is my first time using irc thanks mom
[02:10] <Guitarhero11> hdkiller: no luck, still no sound
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> sris: If you tell it to use unallocated space your other partitions should be just fine
[02:10] <Guitarhero11> do i need a restart for it to boot with alsa or something
[02:10] <hypatia> Beast: Is your windows partition NTFS or FAT32?   In either case the naswer is yes.
[02:10] <Teller> Beast: Even less reason to have an attitude then, just take the advice and don't repeat.
[02:11] <sris> Jack_Sparrow: nice, im going to give that a try, thanks for the help!
[02:11] <Beast> my partition is ntfs
[02:11] <songo> does anyone here use to mount a dvd-rw? can you post the line from /etc/fstab that concerns the dvd driver?
[02:11] <Guitarhero11> hdkiller should i try completely removing and reinstalling my sound drivers
[02:11] <songo> please?
[02:11] <Beast> so im guessing when using the live cd it won't work but if i install it i can listen to them
[02:11] <Guitarhero11> i mean sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[02:11] <hdkiller> Guitarhero11, no
[02:12] <hdkiller> do u need, gstreamer alsa plugin too
[02:12] <hdkiller> for proper desktop integration imho. but et should work with oss emu
[02:13] <Guitarhero11> i have gstreamer installed i believe
[02:13] <TeePOG> morning
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Beast: What are you trying to do.. read NTFS..?
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Beast: Not advised to write to them..
[02:14] <prophet5> sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs > beast
[02:14] <prophet5> maybe
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs
[02:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:14] <TeePOG> could anyone enlighten me...? I need to find out why wget is not using my proxy, even though every other program i have tried, does find and use the proxy correctly?
[02:15] <songo> TeePOG every other programs from command line?
[02:16] <Teller> TeePOG: Have you set it in gnome or as an environment variable ?
[02:16] <TeePOG> on a related note Jack_Sparrow -- i got reading and writing of NTFS to work, way back in breezy, with ntfstools
[02:16] <Teller> Or both ?
[02:16] <dmg_> Hello, peoples, I am looking for people working on the smallbussines server stuff of ubuntu (thread "It's time to bring ubuntu to the enterprise" et al.), if anyone here is involved in that, could we have a talk?
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> TeePOG: Still not considered safe..
[02:16] <AustLaw> how do I start the parition manager in ubuntu?
[02:16] <TeePOG> erm, i installed kubuntu-desktop... it's in KDE's proxy settings
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> AustLaw: gparted
[02:17] <prophet5> i'd use the gparted live cd
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> AustLaw: in applications/system-tools
[02:17] <Teller> TeePOG: Ok, `printenv` see if you have any environment variables involving proxies set
[02:17] <Flannel> dmg_: you'll probably be better off getting information on that stuff on a mailing list
[02:17] <TeePOG> so, kget and all works, but no cli... and therefore, no automatix
[02:17] <visik7> ok time to try kont 2
[02:17] <h00t> hello ... is there a way for me to control another computer w/ realvnc but on windows from ubuntu...
[02:17] <TeePOG> thanks Teller, brb
[02:17] <Teller> Hi! I can't get my USB mouse to work on my touchpad equipped laptop.. When I move the mouse while I cat /dev/input/mouse0 I get output, so the kernel finds it alright.. More info on http://pastebin.ca/158173
[02:17] <Teller> ops
[02:18] <TTT_Travis> Hi, I am running ubuntu server and for some reason it didn't detect my network card during the install, how do I add a new one through the command line?
[02:18] <Teller> lol, that looks good after I just told someone off for repeating :P
[02:18] <AustLaw> Jack_Sparrow: dont seem to see it for some reason, and it didnt run as command
[02:18] <dmg_> yeah but which one, they just seems to be everywhere can't find any ml related to that and seems like the ubuntu-server ml is not talking about that
[02:18] <dmg_> (people working on that i mean by they)
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> AustLaw: Use synaptic to get it..
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> AustLaw: Are you running live to do this?
[02:18] <AustLaw> na
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:19] <prophet5> what network card are you using
[02:19] <frog[paR] > hey guys, i have a quick question. gnome is installed on my edubuntu installation, but it auto loads the terminal. how can i have it auto load gnome when i boot it up?
[02:19] <TeePOG> Teller: i see nothing about a proxy, even though I typed "export HTTP_proxy=http://192.168.0.2:3128
[02:19] <brooklyn> can anyone tell me the sudu package command i need for the packages i need to compile/etc
[02:20] <Healot> !build
[02:20] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:20] <prophet5> ./configure
[02:20] <prophet5> make
[02:20] <frog[paR] > could someone help me out please
[02:20] <frog[paR] > i have a quick question. gnome is installed on my edubuntu installation, but it auto loads the terminal. how can i have it auto load gnome when i boot it up?
[02:20] <Teller> TeePOG: That's very odd
[02:20] <BHSPitLappy> uhh, wow.
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> brooklyn: what are you trying to install?
[02:20] <BHSPitLappy> my entire gnome session manager crashed.
[02:20] <BHSPitLappy> never expected something that serious to happen.
[02:21] <brooklyn> xchat from source, but im missing software to compile.
[02:21] <TeePOG> Teller: should I rather put that line in a conf file somewhere? i don't know if it will save it when I reboot
[02:21] <gnomefreak> brooklyn: sudo apt-get build-dep xchat
[02:21] <gnomefreak> brooklyn: than try to build it
[02:21] <Teller> TeePOG: it won't, you could set it in ~/.bashrc
[02:21] <Teller> .. to make it survive reboots
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi, Gnomefreak, glad to see you
[02:22] <TeePOG> ok Teller, do I just type it in there as i would on the command line?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> hi Jack_Sparrow
[02:22] <brooklyn> gnomefreak: i remember on my last install before a crash, someone told me to do a sudo-apt-get <something> and it downloaded and installed a big package that let me compile things/etc
[02:22] <Teller> TeePOG: yepp
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> build-essentials
[02:22] <Teller> brooklyn: build-essentials
[02:22] <prophet5> lol
[02:22] <brooklyn> ty :)
[02:22] <gnomefreak> brooklyn: the command i gave you will download all depends you need to build xchat :)
[02:23] <prophet5> they should be included
[02:23] <gnomefreak> build-essential for make and gcc
[02:23] <brooklyn> so what is the correct sudo command to install all build essentials :)
[02:23] <gnomefreak> prophet5: oh god please dont go there
[02:23] <Flannel> brooklyn: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:23] <Healot> !info build-essential
[02:23] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[02:23] <prophet5> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[02:23] <habeeb> Whats the best way to enable direct rendering in the 2.6.17 kernel?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> brooklyn: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:23] <jvai> cut n p-aste
[02:23] <gnomefreak> prophet5: no s
[02:23] <brooklyn> Ty prophet/gnome/flannel
[02:23] <brooklyn> :)
[02:23] <gnomefreak> habeeb: install drivers for your video card
[02:24] <habeeb> gnomefreak: details? ^_^
[02:24] <prophet5> oops
[02:24] <Abst> Can I unmount a drive?
[02:24] <Abst> device sorry
[02:24] <russellb> anyone know a good package that saves images for the web? Kinda like Photoshop as the option "save for web" It basicly reduces the file size
[02:24] <habeeb> I followed this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75428&highlight=fglrx But it didnt work :/
[02:24] <habeeb> How can I undo everything it did?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> habeeb: i need the details not you i dont know anything about your setup and you need to join #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[02:25] <gnomefreak> habeeb: is it wrote for edgy or dapper?
[02:25] <habeeb> gnomefreak: I'm not in edgy.
[02:25] <habeeb> gnomefreak: dapper.
[02:25] <gnomefreak> habeeb: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:25] <TeePOG> how do I reload my ~/.bashrc without rebooting?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> 2.6.17 is edgy kernel
[02:25] <Abst> TeePOG: I dunno but couldn't you run it manually?
[02:25] <habeeb> gnomefreak: ubuntu+1 is for dapper?
[02:25] <jrib> TeePOG: . ~/.bashrc
[02:25] <gnomefreak> TeePOG: close terminal and open it
[02:25] <habeeb> gnomefreak: and for ATI cards?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> habeeb: no but either is 2.6.17
[02:26] <gnomefreak> habeeb: why are you using edgys kernel on dapper?
[02:26] <TeePOG> will see, thanks... is this the correct case and all? "export HTTP_proxy=http://192.168.0.2:3128"
[02:26] <habeeb> because I found a howto on how to compile 2.6.17, so I thought to give it a try. Not a good choise, eh?
[02:26] <TeePOG> or should i have single quotes around the value?
[02:27] <prophet5> umount /dev/hd??
[02:27] <habeeb> Should I recompile 2.6.16?
[02:27] <flankk> How do you install apache?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> habeeb: thats more than likely why it didnt work the restricted mods are different
[02:27] <haboy_> how do i install the mp3 exporting plugin to audacity??
[02:27] <Flannel> !tell flankk about lamp
[02:27] <flankk> Flannel, I don't want PHP support.  I just want the apache server.
[02:27] <habeeb> But there are no restricted-modules package for 2.6.16 too, gnomefreak
[02:27] <gnomefreak> habeeb: whats wrong with 2.6.15
[02:28] <habeeb> gnomefreak: well, I wanted to optimize the kernel, so I chose the latest version.
[02:28] <gnomefreak> habeeb: im sure there is but either way 2.6.16 isnt suppported by ubuntu so i wouldnt know
[02:28] <Flannel> flankk: that page walks you through each part -- just read the apache stuff
[02:28] <habeeb> ok. 2.6.15 it is , then >:
[02:28] <habeeb> gnomefreak: any chance for a howto url?
[02:28] <habeeb> :/
[02:29] <gnomefreak> habeeb: i suggest you find the restricted modules package and headers package for 2.6.17 if your gonna use it and you will need the drivers for that kernel and problly the xorg for that kernel too
[02:29] <zonk> lo kto tu jest
[02:29] <brendonjt> hi all
[02:29] <flankk> Flannel, Except the instructions fail.  'apt-get install apache2' yeilds 'Package apache2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.'
[02:29] <Flannel> flankk: er, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:30] <flankk> Flannel, Dapper 6.06.
[02:30] <Healot> !repos
[02:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:30] <Flannel> flankk: and, you've got the web repositories enabled? (main, etc?)
[02:30] <viator> anyone know where i can find a vmware image  thats not a torrent
[02:30] <flankk> Flannel, yes.
[02:30] <habeeb> I really dont know what to do gnomefreak . >: Should I compile the old 2.6.15, or leave it be? :/
[02:30] <Flannel> flankk: and, you've updated? (sudo apt-get update)?
[02:30] <haboy_> how do i install the mp3 exporting plugin to audacity??
[02:30] <Healot> !find apache
[02:30] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libapache2-mod-auth-plain, libapache2-mod-auth-sys-group (and 147 others)
[02:30] <flankk> Flannel, yes.
[02:30] <viator> theres noone seeding the one on their servers
[02:30] <Healot> !find apache2
[02:30] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libapache2-mod-auth-plain, libapache2-mod-auth-sys-group (and 50 others)
[02:31] <BlueEagle> viator: what kind of image?
[02:31] <viator> vmware
[02:31] <flankk> Healot, I don't want PHP.
[02:31] <viator> player
[02:31] <gnomefreak> habeeb: i told you what to look for and install but i suggest 2.6.15 for the reason of it works ther eis no headache
[02:31] <Healot> flankk: not giving you php
[02:31] <Flannel> flankk: it should work fine, try installing one of the specific modules - http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/apache2
[02:31] <habeeb> Ok gnomefreak
[02:31] <Flannel> flankk: in addition to apache2
[02:32] <viator> its got to be dapper
[02:32] <BlueEagle> viator: If you're looking for vmware-player then I think I saw that in add/remove programs. If you want an image you probably want it to be an image of something. To help locate an image of that spesific os it would be helpful to know which os you were looking for an image of. (hence the question what kind of image)
[02:32] <haboy_> how do i install the mp3 exporting plugin to audacity??
[02:32] <ardchoille> The Ubuntu wiki ROCKS! I bought a new hd and wanted to know how to get it mounted at boot. I searched for "new hard disk" and the wiki returned the exact page I needed :)
[02:32] <flankk> Flannel, I have universe enabled in my sources.list.
[02:32] <viator> i want a vitual machine or whatever of dapper
[02:32] <BlueEagle> haboy_: Isn't that explained on the audacity home page?
[02:32] <Flannel> flankk: er, is that the only one?
[02:32] <viator> to test in windows
[02:33] <BlueEagle> viator: Ahh, I see. Haven't seen any of them around tbh. :)
[02:33] <haboy_> BlueEagle: i dont really know
[02:33] <flankk> Flannel, no.  Multiverse and backports too, if that matters.
[02:33] <Flannel> flankk: Not main though?
[02:33] <viator> theres a link on the vmware site
[02:33] <flankk> Flannel, of course.
[02:33] <viator> but its a torrent
[02:33] <BlueEagle> haboy_: That's where I'd check first.
[02:33] <viator> and noone is seeding ti
[02:34] <BlueEagle> viator: However you could make one yourself if it's important. :)
[02:34] <haboy_> BlueEagle: what do you audacity home page?? i have to visit its website??
[02:34] <Flannel> flankk: you've got some random other issues then.  Apache2 is really cut and dry, entirely in main.. unless backports is causing problems.  Try "apt-cache search apache2" (you'll probably want a less in there) does apache2 show up?
[02:34] <codecaine> hi im trying to write a script in ubuntu and I want them to enter there input ont he same line of the choce I did \c but it prints up /c whys that?
[02:34] <prophet5> install lame
[02:34] <Gregyboy> hey guys
[02:34] <BlueEagle> haboy_: The home page of the application that is causing your trouble is often a good place to start to look for a solution, yes.
[02:34] <habeeb> I cant find a howto on how to compile the 2.6.15 kernel, only for < 2.6.16 -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560
[02:34] <Gregyboy> i just installed xubuntu
[02:35] <Gregyboy> I LOVE IT!
[02:35] <Flannel> !tell habeeb about kernel
[02:35] <Flannel> habeeb: try that link
[02:35] <habeeb> Flannel: <3
[02:35] <Gregyboy> i have one prob throught
[02:35] <Gregyboy> i need a program other then gaim to get onto to msn
[02:35] <Flannel> habeeb: the wiki is more reliable than the forums (not that the forums are poor, just sometimes people get things wrong)
[02:35] <habeeb> Flannel: I want to compile 2.6.15 to have the restricted-modules for it.
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> amsn?
[02:35] <Gregyboy> i downloaded a version of amsn i have no idea what i have to do
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Gregyboy: how did you dl it
[02:36] <Gregyboy> firefox
[02:36] <Flannel> habeeb: 2.6.15 is in the repositories, why do you feel the need to compile your own?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !amsn
[02:36] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[02:36] <Gregyboy> i chose other in distros because it din not have amsn
[02:36] <habeeb> Flannel: to optimize it too ^_^
[02:36] <haboy_> BlueEagle: anyway i can u help me. i just want to change the bit rate of my mp3 from 192 to 128kbps
[02:36] <flankk> Flannel, it doesn't show up.  But I have all the main repos enabled.
[02:36] <Flannel> flankk: pastebin your sources list please
[02:36] <Flannel> !paste
[02:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Gregyboy: Suggest you get it using Synaptic .. enable Universe repo
[02:36] <Gregyboy> huh?
[02:37] <Gregyboy> synaptic?
[02:37] <Byan> 
[02:37] <Byan> eh?
[02:37] <Healot> geek est dificile
[02:37] <Flannel> Gregyboy, Jack_Sparrow, as of dapper, the repositories are in "Software Properties" not synaptic
[02:37] <Abst> Is there a command to withdraw an open cdrom from a shell script?
[02:37] <habeeb> So, how can I install 2.6.15 from the reps Flannel ?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Gregyboy: system/admin/synaptic.. it is how we get and install most software
[02:38] <smick> I need to install some compiz stuff.  but I can't see the name to uninstall with
[02:38] <morodock> anyone know where to get the empconfig dependency for emperorlinux kernel (for laptops) located the kernel but can't find empconfig dependency.
[02:38] <smick> can sombody tell me the command to uninstall compiz?
[02:38] <Gregyboy> im lost im very new to linux how do i open that?
[02:38] <jvai> got it
[02:38] <jvai> :)
[02:38] <Flannel> habeeb: you're using dapper, right?  It's already installed
[02:38] <habeeb> Flannel: yes, but I'm in 2.6.17 right now <:
[02:38] <Flannel> smick: #ubuntu-xgl (and it depends on how you installed it)
[02:38] <flankk> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22289
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel: You can enable them from synaptic as well
[02:38] <hockyhair> hello
[02:38] <habeeb> Flannel: and I couldnt install fglrx support with direct rendering, and I want to turn back to 2.6.15 :)
[02:38] <Flannel> habeeb: so, reboot and select 2.6.15 form your grub menu
[02:38] <Healot> reboot and select the .15 kernel, habeeb
[02:39] <habeeb> Flannel:  I see.
[02:39] <habeeb> I'll try it.
[02:39] <Flannel> flankk: you don't have main in there, that's why
[02:39] <User20> Hi.  Im new to linux.  Can some one pm me and help me install graphics drivers.
[02:39] <hockyhair> i am trying to start a console (urxvt, eterm, aterm) with a path/cmd i read the man pages and understand "-e" (sorta) i can start the program in the console but it closes right away.
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> User20: what video card..
[02:39] <User20> bfg 7300
[02:39] <flankk> Flannel, I see.  I used to., apparantly Automatix removed it.
[02:39] <smick> thanks, and where do I remove all the different boot listings, I"m dual booting windows and there keeps increasing a number of ubuntu versions to boot into. Can I edit that boot list?
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> nvidia
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[02:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:40] <User20> yea
[02:40] <hockyhair> say "Eterm -e /path/to/mp3blaster" for example
[02:40] <Flannel> flankk: automatix causes nothing but problems
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> User20: Start there
[02:40] <brooklyn> Flannel: how so
[02:40] <Flannel> brooklyn: by breaking things
[02:40] <brooklyn> hrm...
[02:40] <ladydoor> hockyhair: if you start the terminal with -e, when the program exits the terminal does too
[02:40] <brooklyn> maybe i should remove =)
[02:40] <ladydoor> hockyhair: for it not to do that, you just need to start the terminal normally
[02:41] <ladydoor> hockyhair: and type the name of the command
[02:41] <User20> well i found this guide here. http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper it says "Make sure you have both the Universe and Multiverse repositories enabled. "  i have no clue what that is
[02:41] <ladydoor> !repositories
[02:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Wife is home... everyone play nice.. goodnight
[02:41] <flankk> Flannel, to be fair, it saved me much greif in compiling my own packages that ubuntu doesn't provide.  In exchange it modifies my sources.list without telling me.
[02:41] <Flannel> User20: read the second link of the line ubotu just said
[02:41] <ladydoor> Flannel: thanks :-)
[02:41] <Flannel> flankk: and, you dodged the bullet of it breaking your system entirely.
[02:41] <hockyhair> i figured it out, thx
[02:42] <ladydoor> hockyhair: sweet.
[02:42] <brooklyn> Flannel: how do you remove automatix once installed?
[02:42] <flankk> Flannel, I feel weary using any unofficial packages but I'm left with little choice.
[02:42] <ladydoor> brooklyn: sudo aptitude remove --purge automatix
[02:42] <ladydoor> brooklyn: and then you can go ahead and remove automatix from the repositories
[02:43] <brooklyn> ah.. thats harsh. automatix has some cool software.
[02:43] <ladydoor> brooklyn: i used it. apparently it doesn't work for some though
[02:43] <Powerbook`> how does ubuntu work on mac?
[02:43] <brooklyn> does it honestly have a bad reputation of breaking systems?
[02:43] <Flannel> yes.
[02:43] <ladydoor> brooklyn: it can overwrite your sources.list
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> brooklyn,  very bad.. and there was a huge flamewar about it once on the message boards.
[02:44] <ladydoor> brooklyn: (if you choose)
[02:44] <brooklyn> ladydoor: and if it does, what exactly happens?
[02:44] <Powerbook`> would duel booting mac with ubuntu be good on a powerbook 1 gb ram 100 gb hd?
[02:44] <ladydoor> brooklyn: i'm not sure. i wasn't one of those whose system it messed up
[02:44] <xhaan> ladydoor, that one dialog that asks always scares me, lol
[02:44] <Flannel> regardless of soruces.list, (that's relatively minor) it nicely leaves your system in broken states
[02:44] <ladydoor> xhaan: yeah, me too :-)
[02:44] <Flannel> sources.list really is the least of your worries, when it goes bad
[02:44] <ladydoor> xhaan: it's not very intuitive which one to click to make it not overwrite
[02:44] <smick> what is sudo apt-get -f install?
[02:45] <cafuego> lovely
[02:45] <brooklyn> ok, so once i do sudo aptitude remove --purge automatix - what do i do next to COMPLETELY remove it?
[02:45] <ladydoor> xhaan: (and point/click stuff makes me nervous anyway)
[02:45] <ladydoor> brooklyn: you just did that
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> brooklyn,  you used it to install stuff?
[02:45] <flankk> Flannel, installed smoothly now.  Thanks.
[02:45] <brooklyn> Dr_Willis: i used it to install one thing, yes
[02:45] <brooklyn> now im trying to remove automatix, because of its reputation
[02:45] <Powerbook`> would duel booting mac with ubuntu be good on a powerbook 1 gb ram 100 gb hd?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> !automatix
[02:45] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:46] <ladydoor> brooklyn: if it just sits on your system it won't do anything :-)
[02:46] <cafuego> Powerbook`: it'll be fine (even the wireless works!)
[02:46] <brooklyn> hmm....
[02:46] <brooklyn> what do you mean... if i use it to get software, it hurts things?
[02:46] <Healot> Powerbook`: you define "good" yourself...
[02:46] <acdc> what package/repository do I need to get wmv playback?
[02:46] <BRob> anyone know how to add an ethernet card to a new ubuntu installation?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> brooklyn,  it can/has been known tol
[02:46] <ladydoor> !codecs
[02:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:46] <BRob> I have an onboard ethernet adapater that was not recognized during the install
[02:46] <ladydoor> acdc: ^
[02:47] <acdc> ta
[02:47] <brooklyn> Dr_willis: ok, so how do i completely remove it? will sudo aptitude remove --purge automatix get rid of it totally
[02:47] <flankk> Other than providing unofficial packages, is there any reason to use Automatix "at your own risk?"  Is there reason to belive the binaries include malicious code or are they trusted?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> brooklyn,  that removes the program of course.. but whats the point of worrying about it now. :)
[02:47] <ladydoor> brooklyn: that removes the program and all its config files outside your home dir
[02:47] <Flannel> flankk: not malicious, just poorly coded and tested
[02:47] <brooklyn> hrm... because i actually think it did do something to my source.list
[02:47] <brooklyn> but i removed it from my system....
[02:47] <ladydoor> Flannel: (i.e., nonfree)
[02:48] <Flannel> ladydoor: no, not even those parts... automatix itself
[02:48] <ladydoor> brooklyn: if you'll paste your sources.list into pastebin i'd be glad to take a look :-)
[02:48] <brooklyn> k, 1 sec.
[02:48] <ladydoor> Flannel: aha. check
[02:48] <Healot> why nobody seems not mention the infamous source-o-matic?
[02:48] <xhaan> whoa
[02:48] <ladydoor> Flannel: i was misinformed then :-)
[02:48] <flankk> Flannel, what is preventing it from being malicious as well?  Are the package maintainers for Automatix trusted individuals?
[02:48] <hockyhair> well i thought i had it figured out, but i need to have urxvt start in a specific dir, how can i accoplish this?
[02:49] <cafuego> It's got to be weekend.
[02:49] <steve__> i am installing dapper on my imac 333mhz - erase entire disk and use LVM<--- wtf is LVM?
[02:49] <ladydoor> flankk: as zie said, it's not so much "malicious" as "poorly coded"
[02:49] <Flannel> flankk: they're just average people... Personally I don't like them.
[02:49] <cafuego> steve__: Something you don't need, logical volume mangement.
[02:49] <Healot> LinuxVolumeManagement
[02:49] <brooklyn> ladydoor: sources.list in /etc/apt?
[02:49] <ladydoor> brooklyn: yup!
[02:49] <cafuego> steve__: Note that Dapper is going to be slow on that if you have under 512Mb ram.
[02:49] <steve__> so i should choose that rather than just erase disk option y'reckon?
[02:50] <Flannel> flankk: the automatix developer(s) have had some arguments with the community etc.  Unlike easyubuntu, which is a lot closer to the rest of the linux mentality
[02:50] <cafuego> steve__: No, you do _not_ need lvm.
[02:50] <steve__> yeah - i only have 128mb but i can instal 512 eventually
[02:50] <flankk> Flannel, I'm an average person and I could easily create a repo with malicious code injected into packages.  Again my question, what makes them so trusted?
[02:50] <Flannel> but, this automatix discussion has gotten -offtopic, if anyone would like to further discuss it, we can move the conversation there (#ubuntu-offtopic)
[02:50] <steve__> oh...OK...thanks
[02:50] <gnomefreak> please take the automatix topic to #automaticx
[02:50] <ladydoor> or #automatix
[02:50] <gnomefreak> #automatix
[02:50] <gnomefreak> ty ladydoor
[02:50] <Healot> it's #automatix :)
[02:51] <ladydoor> gnomefreak: np :-)
[02:51] <hockyhair> anyone know how to change the directory a console starts in
[02:51] <brooklyn> ladydoor: one sec, pastebin is being kind of slow =P
[02:51] <cafuego> steve__: On a 333MHz mac with 128Mb ram, dapper (with gnome) is not going to be useable.
[02:51] <ladydoor> brooklyn: kk
[02:51] <brooklyn> ladydoor: http://pastebin.com/781722
[02:51] <BRob> hockeyhair, add 'cd <insert directory here>' to your .bashrc in your home directory
[02:51] <brooklyn> ladydoor: it seems automatix was added at the bottom of my sources.list
[02:51] <ladydoor> hockyhair: maybe add to your ~/.bashrc (at the end) cd /path/to/dir/you/want
[02:51] <ladydoor> brooklyn: you had to add that to install it in the first place, haha
[02:52] <brooklyn> so... is this going to hurt the system at all
[02:52] <steve__> cafuego ok - i will give it a bash neway and just reinstal warty - but synaptic manger seems to be fuxored in warty
[02:52] <morodock> New kernel showing dual core cpus :) YEAH!!!!
[02:52] <cafuego> steve__: hrm.
[02:52] <hockyhair> what if i want only one console to start in a specific directory
[02:52] <Flannel> steve__: watch the language, and... warty is no longer supported, why not upgrade to... anything else?
[02:53] <Kurimu> help plz...
[02:53] <ladydoor> brooklyn: ok, that looks fine to me. do you want to get updates to GNASH and from ubuntu-commercial?
[02:53] <cafuego> Flannel: You haven't been paying attention, have you?
[02:53] <Flannel> cafuego: nope, sorry.
[02:53] <brooklyn> ladydoor: sure :)
[02:53] <Kurimu> lemme see how i can explain this without sounding too confusing...
[02:53] <BRob> i just installed ubuntu 6.06 from CD, and 'make' is not on my system, anyone know how to install it with no network connection?
[02:53] <BRob> i need it to build my wireless adapter driver
[02:53] <gnomefreak> BRob: build-essential
[02:53] <Healot> !build > BRob
[02:54] <gnomefreak> BRob: you can install it off the disk
[02:54] <brooklyn> BRob: build-essential?
[02:54] <ladydoor> brooklyn: cool. then you don't need to change anything
[02:54] <ladydoor> brooklyn: i don't think
[02:54] <brooklyn> ladydoor: *phew*
[02:54] <ladydoor> brooklyn: haha
[02:54] <BRob> ok, thanks guys
[02:54] <BRob> i'll look into both
[02:54] <brooklyn> thanks again ladydoor
[02:54] <steve__> mmm...ok go for the next up from warty...whats that breezy??
[02:54] <ladydoor> brooklyn: np. i think you would've known if you'd broken anything, haha
[02:54] <Harkins> Is it possible to use NetworkManager if I use fluxbox as my wm? How do I get at its control panel?
[02:55] <brooklyn> ladydoor: lol - well the program itself actually worked great, but i havent rebooted since yet...
[02:55] <steve__> i only want to use ekiga the new version of gnome meeting
[02:55] <cafuego> steve__: yup
[02:55] <brooklyn> i atleast got a nice p2p program out of it... lol
[02:55] <ladydoor> brooklyn: well, you don't usually need to reboot ubuntu9, haha
[02:55] <brooklyn> heh, yea.
[02:55] <ladydoor> brooklyn: there are people who don't turn their computers off
[02:56] <Kurimu> Basically, I am using a Ubuntu 6.06 CD; I always occasionally use ubuntu's Live-CD but always go back to windows, not the NTLDR doesn't work. I want to copy an image to my floppydisk and well... its not letting me. I tried that dd if=<image> of=<function>, but it doesnt work at all. It says the floppy disk is locked, and i can't mount any NTFS drives in hope of replacing those damaged files..
[02:56] <nyc-h0st> hi everyone, i doubt i'm the first person to try this, i need to do gnome-rdp over ppp0, or rdesktop over ppp0 doesnt really matter but neither one would look at ppp0 they look on eth0...HELP!
[02:56] <Kurimu> btw i am a uber-linux noob ._.
[02:56] <brooklyn> Kurimu: why not just partition and install?
[02:56] <habeeb> Well, installed fglrx support. fglrxinfo shows normal things. but glxinfo shows no direct rendering.. Why? 2.6.15 kernel..
[02:57] <Kurimu> i dont even want to touch partitions right now, i have too much valuable info on the HD for something to go wrong
[02:58] <Kurimu> i've had bad expriences with attempting to parition my drive :-/
[02:58] <Abst> Kurimu: Same here
[02:58] <Abst> I reinstalled today cause I screwed up :(
[02:58] <Kurimu> if i could only mount the main NTFS drive, i can simply replace the files; i have the files ready
[02:58] <Kurimu> >_<
[02:59] <ladydoor> Kurimu: you probably can't copy to the floppy b/c the iso is going to be greater than FAT's limit
[02:59] <brooklyn> the iso image is to big for a floppy...
[02:59] <Kurimu> its a .img and its 1.4MB
[02:59] <ladydoor> well, good luck!
[02:59] <Kurimu> ....
[03:00] <brooklyn> or, just backup all your valueable stuff on a spare drive/disk/whatever, and install when you know your safe =P
[03:00] <h00t> how can i find out what vnc version do i have
[03:00] <Kurimu> quick question, why cant Ubuntu mount NTFS drives; i've tried other linux distro and a few can. Ubuntu seems to me one of the most user-friendly
[03:00] <Kurimu> this would all be so simple if it could -_-
[03:01] <digivore> !pastebin
[03:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:01] <nyc-h0st> hi everyone, i doubt i'm the first person to try this, i need to do gnome-rdp over ppp0, or rdesktop over ppp0 doesnt really matter but neither one would look at ppp0 they look on eth0...HELP!
[03:01] <h00t> Kurimu: IT CAN
[03:01] <mutk> Kurimu, It says the disk is locked?? Is it mounted or something ? Oh hang on there is a write protect tab on a floppy. Check that?
[03:01] <Kurimu> but its not letting me
[03:01] <brooklyn> h00t: stupid question, did you used to go by the name h00tnany or something?
[03:01] <Kurimu> its not locked on the actual floppy.. i checked...
[03:01] <llama32> i'm having ubuntu specific problems with [lib] gcj... whenever i try to use gcj, it says "libgcj.spec: no such file/dir", and locate at least won't show any libgcj.spec
[03:01] <dmg_> nyc-h0st, huh ?
[03:01] <acdc> I want to create configuration for my keyboard model, however I don't understand the codes symbols/inet file uses. Is there a manual/tutorial on that somewhere?
[03:01] <mikeconcepts> I'm using RealVNC from XP into Ubuntu with XGL and Compiz running. Installed x11vnc and works great! I followed this HowTo http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=236053
[03:02] <crimsun> llama32: why would you need the spec file?
[03:02] <h00t> brooklyn: ... no ... always 'h00t'
[03:02] <mutk> Kurimu, 'It's not letting me' is not enough info. The exactly failure is needed.
[03:02] <dmg_> your ppp0 is not configured then...
[03:02] <quantux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountNtfsOnBoot
[03:02] <crimsun> mikeconcepts: probably more relevant in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:02] <nyc-h0st> it is i can ping using -L
[03:02] <nyc-h0st> on it
[03:02] <Abst> This is offtopic but how do I set my freenode autojoin list?
[03:02] <nyc-h0st> am i missing something? if i do a plain ping it wont ping, but if i do -L ppp0 it will work
[03:02] <llama32> crimsun: no idea... but like even when i run it with no arguments, it just says that and dies
[03:02] <mikeconcepts> crimsum: thanks, told them there first already
[03:03] <brooklyn> Abst: if your using xchat, i think theres an option for it?
[03:03] <h00t> can I vnc from ubuntu into window... i tried 'vncviewer' but when i type the ip address nothing happens
[03:03] <BRob> anyone know why my onboard ethernet adapter is not recognized?  I have no eth0 adapter
[03:04] <mutk> dbcnhoyh (n=szifa@S010600055d6c481f.lb.shawcable.net  <-- needs adding to ban list BTW
[03:04] <Kurimu> The floppy is mounted as /media/floppy, i try to actually put the image on the floppy but when i do there is no activity to the floppy and it said it copied to it at a rate that the floppy simply cannot allow; It "says" it wrote it when it didn't; it wont let me format the floppy either
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  you are running vncserver on the windows box?
[03:04] <Kurimu> lemme get the error for the format pop-up
[03:04] <Kurimu> one sec
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  also you enter the 'desktop' # for it to connect to.  ip#:0 normally
[03:04] <mutk> Kurimu, Unmount it. dd writes directly to the block device, not to the filesystem
[03:05] <mikeconcepts> h00t: use terminal server client
[03:05] <h00t> i'm running realvnc on the windows box...
[03:05] <h00t> so what exactly should i do ... isn't realvnc buit in into ubuntu already
[03:05] <Healot> ho
[03:06] <Kurimu> The filesystem creation utility (/sbin/mkdosfs) reported the following error(s): mkdosfs: /dev/sde contains a mounted file system (50)
[03:06] <Healot> sensing some jp attack here
[03:06] <mutk> Any ops around we are being attacked here..
[03:06] <h00t> mikeconcepts: where is termincal server client
[03:06] <mutk> Healot, What do you recon
[03:06] <Kurimu> okay, lemme try unmounting it then
[03:06] <Healot> the same nicks
[03:06] <Healot> wtf?
[03:06] <mikeconcepts> hoot: applications/internet/terminal server client
[03:07] <Healot> dude, at least create some randomized nicks for f*** sake
[03:07] <mutk> Healot, Kiddies.
[03:07] <GLABY> bonsoir ou bonjour
[03:07] <Kurimu> err... there is no actual option to unmount it, just eject it
[03:07] <GLABY> hello
[03:07] <Abst> Hi
[03:07] <Abst> !fr
[03:07] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:07] <Kurimu> need to try it manually in the terminal?
[03:07] <Healot> bonjour here, GLABY
[03:08] <DBO> mutk, not much we can do really...
[03:08] <mutk> Kurimu, At a terminal type   umount /media/floppy
[03:08] <GLABY> You have only ubuntu on your computer?
[03:08] <mikeconcepts> h00t: if you install realvnc on XP and setup the server on the xp machine, type vncviewer and other related things like ip and port
[03:08] <Kurimu> whats the command to become root again?
[03:09] <Healot> sudo -i
[03:09] <Healot> or sudo su
[03:09] <mutk> Kurimu, sudo umount /media/floppy
[03:09] <Healot> both works btw
[03:09] <_dert_> i am currently booted into dapperdrake install cd - but i don't get my bluetooth mouse working, can anyone help?
[03:09] <GLABY> I am connect to root with su root
[03:09] <h00t> mikeconcepts: ok everything worked but it says that the server protocol is 3.8 but viewer protocol is 3.3 ... how can i upgrade
[03:09] <mutk> Quick fix turn off auto accept DCC
[03:10] <h00t> there's an option in 'terminal server' to open something called 'protocol file' ...
[03:10] <mikeconcepts> h00t: I'm just a noob
[03:10] <GLABY> I am a proble mwith install Wint PVR150 but it's not urgent
[03:10] <Kurimu> mutk: Okay, i think its unmounted
[03:11] <mutk> Kurimu, Right, now you should be able to dd to the block device
[03:11] <Kurimu> -_-
[03:11] <mutk> How boring.
[03:11] <liquidten2> <_<
[03:11] <Healot> *yawm*
[03:11] <Healot> JP attack is so history
[03:11] <holycow_> http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=9450  <-- cool demo
[03:11] <mutk> Now everone make sure DCC autop accpet is off :)
[03:11] <Kurimu> yeah... i'll try it now...
[03:11] <Healot> why people even bother using it?
[03:11] <AdamKrier> what program do you guys use to tag directories of mp3's?
[03:11] <h00t> i bet you can't kick me off
[03:12] <ugarit> when i attempt to use HPLIP  I get the message that there is no HP device installed, while I have set one up via cups, and I can actually print to this hp oj 7310 printer.  what am I doing wrong?
[03:12] <mutk> Healot, I just wonder why attack at all? Is ubuntu an enemy to some people?
[03:12] <Healot> pissed off ex-admin?
[03:12] <brooklyn> is h00t attacking? lol
[03:12] <Healot>  i mean ex-operator?
[03:12] <holycow_> or someone that got banned
[03:13] <cafuego> Just a child with nothing better to do.
[03:13] <GLABY> Very people her
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> !swf
[03:13] <GLABY> here
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <_dert_> how can i activate the numpad to control the mousecursor?
[03:13] <brooklyn> its a pathetic botnet, whoever it is.
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know how to play .swf files?
[03:13] <holycow_> http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=9449  <-- another cool xgl demo
[03:14] <Megaqwerty> (from my HD)
[03:14] <brooklyn> Megaqwerty: in browser?
[03:14] <holycow_> i think thats probably a very neat way to work with a computer
[03:14] <_dert_> i am used to something like <shift><num> but that doesn't work
[03:14] <cafuego> brooklyn: Are you implying there are cases when needing a botnet is not pathetic?
[03:14] <Megaqwerty> brooklyn: no on my Hard Drive
[03:14] <liquidten2> .swf Is macromedia flash.  I assume if you have the plugin set up, just open the file in firefox.
[03:14] <holycow_> i can imagine someone using it like that with a touchscreen laptop
[03:14] <Megaqwerty> liquidten2: thanks!
[03:14] <Kurimu> mutk: thanks alot... why couldnt that be that easy in the beginning? xD
[03:14] <h00t> can anyone help me w/ this vnc issue .. how can i upgrade protocol to 3.8
[03:14] <mutk> Kurimu, :)
[03:14] <brooklyn> cafuego: no, its all pathetic, but if your going to have one, atleast make it more worthwhile then 10..
[03:14] <Healot> !flash
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:14] <Kurimu> and now to *hopefully* get back into windows and backk all my crap up
[03:15] <BluR> I'm trying to do hex->ascii conversion on the command line.  hexdump appears to be what I want but I can't figure it out.  hexdump -e "%_u" gives me an error.  anyone have an idea?
[03:15] <Kurimu> before something like this happens again
[03:15] <GLABY> What is the program for emulator an exe fils windows?
[03:15] <liquidten2> WINE
[03:15] <GLABY> Cedega ?
[03:15] <cafuego> those are the hairiest arms I've ever seen
[03:15] <GLABY> i havent windows
[03:15] <DBO> ***Sorry about that folks, handling it now***
[03:15] <GLABY> wine functionnaly ?
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  use the vncviewer and enter the ip/port of the window machine.. vncviewer windoewsip:0
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  its also possible that the windows firewall is blocking it.
[03:16] <ugarit> anyone here using hplip?
[03:17] <wweasel> Hey. For some reason, the default behaviour of Gnome or Ubuntu is, if I have a folder named Documents in my home, place a link to it under the Places menu. I'd not to have it there. How can I remove it?
[03:18] <hockyhair> how would i go about changing the colors used in console, for instance folders are blue id like to change them to teal
[03:18] <Healot> I R babooon
[03:18] <holycow_> no kidding
[03:18] <holycow_> so it is
[03:19] <holycow_> wweasel, thats completely frickin stupid
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> hockyhair,  you mean the output from the ls command?
[03:19] <StoneNote> U R Weasal
[03:19] <hockyhair> yes
[03:19] <robert_> holycow , it's robert_ :P
[03:19] <User20> How can i set a custom reolution in kubuntu??
[03:19] <DBO> there you go larryone
[03:19] <holycow_> robert_, you migrated :)
[03:19] <larryone> =0)
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> hockyhair,  google for ls color change, or check the ls man pages. :P
[03:19] <wweasel> holycow_ I agree, it is pretty stupid. But the question is how to get rid of it :P
[03:19] <larryone> ty DBO
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> hockyhair,  and be staggered by the options ls has. :P
[03:19] <larryone> right
[03:19] <holycow_> wweasel, thats my question too ... donno ...
[03:20] <larryone> I have installed ubuntu server
[03:20] <StoneNote> I am NOT a mad scientist. I am a very angry scientist.
[03:20] <larryone> but I'mn in trouble
[03:20] <larryone> for one thing, I'm slightly drunk
[03:20] <larryone> for another, mI'm only connected via the console
[03:21] <robert_> my openslsl seems to be busted
[03:21] <larryone> I have root
[03:21] <larryone> I need to be able to login over ssh
[03:21] <GLABY> do you have a link for programming macro for Open Office
[03:21] <User20> Can some one pm me with a way to set costom resolution in kubuntu
[03:21] <StoneNote> larryone, I for one have never been very good at following complex instructions while intoxicated. in fact, one day riding the tubes of the internets while intoxicated will probably be illegal
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[03:21] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:21] <BRob> how can i find out what version of the kernel i'm running?
[03:21] <DBO> hrm... wonder if its over...
[03:21] <sris> Question: Anyone experienced the cd tray behaving weird, i.e. ejecting itself all the time, after inastalling ubuntu on a computer with windows already installed on?
[03:21] <wweasel> BRob: uname -a
[03:22] <StoneNote> sris no
[03:22] <BRob> sweet, thanks wweasel
[03:22] <Roger_The_Bum> sris, no
[03:22] <wweasel> BRob: "uname -r" will tell you only kernel version
[03:22] <larryone> StoneNote, I have done alot of importand admin tasks while drunk (we have very few admins on our projest
[03:22] <BRob> great thanks
[03:22] <larryone> )
[03:22] <backz> Hi, I've a problem when I try to write CDR on my LG-DVDR Driver, it shows: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/lnFFGd73.html - I'm using kernel 2.6.15-26-k7
[03:22] <brooklyn> sris: nope..
[03:22] <Roger_The_Bum> and I installed 2 dual boot systems and use both oses on the boxen
[03:22] <sris> Im really puzzled, my first install of linux/ubuntu ever, and it seems like the whole dual boot/grub stuff has gone a little wrong :D
[03:23] <larryone> so I need ssh access
[03:23] <larryone> ow do I set it up?
[03:23] <h00t> Dr_Willis: sorry dude I was searchin forums for the answer ... but basically it connects ... the only thing is that ubuntu vncviewwer only supports protocol version 3.3 ... server is set on 3.8
[03:23] <sris> my cd tray just goes in and out when i reboot now :D
[03:23] <Roger_The_Bum> sudo apt-get install ssl
[03:23] <Roger_The_Bum> I think
[03:23] <h00t> Dr_Willis: ho can i upgrade
[03:23] <Roger_The_Bum> look for ssl in synaptic
[03:23] <DBO> ***ANNOUNCEMENT***Once again, sorry about the delayed response, if it picks up again please use the !ops options***
[03:23] <larryone> cool
[03:23] <Roger_The_Bum> I just installed openssl server today on my ubuntu box
[03:23] <larryone> cheers
[03:24] <beerfan> From reading about NetworkManager, it seems that it is supposed to have an init.d script but I don't have /etc/init.d/networkmanager. Is this a problem with the Ubuntu package?
[03:24] <Roger_The_Bum> and it's working fine on my mac
[03:24] <mrmojo> hello
[03:24] <mrmojo> is anyone from romania here?
[03:24] <Roger_The_Bum> hello mojo
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  ive used vnc ooodles of times. and cant recall ever it saying somthing similer. its supposed to auto-downgrade to the loser protols.  may be some options ya can use to force it, I notmally use 'vnc4viewer' on linux and 'ultravnc' on windows.
[03:25] <Abst> Can anyone help me get my apache2 accessible from outside of my router
[03:26] <Roger_The_Bum> Abst, I can
[03:26] <BRob> how can i find out if i have "Crypto AP support in kernel
[03:26] <BRob>     * option CONFIG_CRYPTO
[03:26] <BRob> "
[03:26] <Roger_The_Bum> what router are you using
[03:26] <Abst> Im using a Belkin
[03:26] <Roger_The_Bum> open up the config page
[03:26] <Abst> I've done port forwaridng though
[03:26] <Abst> On port 80
[03:26] <h00t> Dr_Willis: the problem is that i don't have 'vnc4viewer' on ubuntu box ... only 'vncviewer' ... how can i upgrade and take the old one out
[03:26] <Abst> So I dont know whats wrong
[03:26] <Roger_The_Bum> o
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  whatever vnc package you install normally installs its own viewert and calls it vncviewer
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  try vncviewer --version
[03:27] <sris> Another question: Does the ubuntu install usually install grub/dual boot stuff, without asking about it?
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> sris,  yes
[03:27] <sris> Dr_Willis, ok. thx
[03:28] <h00t> Dr_Willis: I knew it it's version 3.3.7 .. can you pls tell me the commands to upgrade that one piece of software
[03:29] <Roger_The_Bum> h00t: wild obvious guess, but go to synaptic and just click the check for updates option
[03:29] <kevinG> How do I change the splash screen?
[03:30] <brendonjt> Kia Ora  one and all
[03:30] <ardchoille> kevinG: Which splash screen? The gnome splash screen?
[03:30] <kevinG> yeah
[03:30] <beerfan> Can someone running network manager check if they have a /etc/init.d/NetworkManager file?
[03:30] <Roger_The_Bum> hmmm
[03:31] <ardchoille> kevinG: In the gconf-editor, go to: apps/gnome-session/options, right-click the splash_image key and choose the desired image, ex.: splash/gnome-splash-context.png. Keep in mind that the "splash/" part of the above must preceed the new splash filename.
[03:31] <sris> Is it possible that installing ubuntu on a slave drive (ide) with a cd-rom as primary, could cause some weird problems?
[03:31] <ardchoille> kevinG: You can put new splash screens in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[03:31] <Roger_The_Bum> /etc/init.d/networking ?
[03:31] <sris> master*
[03:31] <kevinG> okay
[03:32] <beerfan> Roger_The_Bum, no. NetworkManager
[03:32] <Roger_The_Bum> beerfan, no
[03:32] <Roger_The_Bum> I don't
[03:32] <backz> j #ubuntu-br
[03:32] <beerfan> Hrm. There is supposed to be one.
[03:32] <Roger_The_Bum> are you sure it isn't /usr/bin/networkmanager ?
[03:32] <brendonjt> sris:  i don'r see how it would cause any problem
[03:33] <beerfan> I'm reading messages on the nm list and they refer to init.d/NetworkManager
[03:33] <sris> brendonjt, ok, im trying to figure out what i've done ;)
[03:33] <Roger_The_Bum> whoa
[03:33] <Roger_The_Bum> wielding a banstick there?
[03:33] <teddy233> hey people
[03:33] <teddy233> :D
[03:33] <teddy233> i'm just looking for a nice place to hang and chill and chat
[03:33] <h00t> Roger_The_Bum: ok ... so i found it in Synaptic ... how do i check for updates ... i don't see any button
[03:33] <wweasel> Hey. For some reason, the default behaviour of Gnome or Ubuntu is, if I have a folder named Documents in my home, place a link to it under the Places menu. I'd not to have it there. How can I remove it?
[03:33] <teddy233> and this is the biggest room that would let me in
[03:33] <Roger_The_Bum> h00t, try installing
[03:33] <DBO> Roger_The_Bum, they are vulnerable to the D C C exploit, so we bring them to ubuntu ops =)
[03:34] <sris> brendonjt, because i cant close my cd-tray anymore and grub isn't working. just installed ubuntu for the first time ;)
[03:34] <teddy233> hows life?
[03:34] <Roger_The_Bum> h00t: right click on the package and select install
[03:34] <brendonjt> sris:  weird,  i did that  with another distro  while i was running windows and it worked fine,
[03:35] <brendonjt> sris:  something  must have gone  screwie
[03:35] <sris> brendonjt, i think it's maybesomething with that, and the fact that i've got a lot of ide/sata disc in a nice mix ;)
[03:36] <brendonjt> sris:  umm true,  have you though about making ur secondry  slave the master slave  and the cdrom  the secondry slave
[03:36] <Jamminpotato> is edgy eft comeing out early or late october?
[03:36] <DBO> Sorry about the spam
[03:36] <DBO> all done
[03:37] <sris> brendonjt, yeah, just hope i could work around it. but now i cant boot ubuntu at all ;)
[03:37] <kevinG> the banhammer has spoken
[03:37] <sris> so nothing changes except my cd readers all screwd up ;)
[03:37] <h00t> Roger_The_Bum: ... ok i actualy saw a package w/ name 'vnc4viewer' which is what i need and i installed it ... do you know how can i make tsclient use 'that' instead of old version by default
[03:38] <brendonjt> sris:  yikes  that bad  hmmm  try  switching the  cabels  you might have to reinstall grub  someone  here might have another suggestion
[03:38] <brendonjt> jaminpotato:  they are releasing edgy  that early  in the game>
[03:39] <sris> brendonjt, yeah guess i'll have to mix it up a little. that's why i asked about the install prompting grub stuff, because it all seemed to happen so fast and automagic
[03:39] <Tom__> I have Dapper installed as a desktop, not a server. Can I still run a simple ftp server on it?
[03:39] <billfur_> did the latest updates break flac in  amarok?
[03:39] <billfur_> (or it did for me, does anyone know why?)
[03:39] <Jamminpotato> DBO, what was all that banning for
[03:40] <duane> anyone know how to turn off whatever makes a horizontal scroll make web browsers go back a bunch of pages?
[03:40] <DBO> Jamminpotato, all vulnerable to an exploit, if you look you see they are being forwarded to #ubuntu-ops (I messed up there, sent them to wrong channel actually).  We want them to fix their system as they are vulnerable
[03:40] <Jamminpotato> how can you tell and what exploit is it?
[03:40] <DBO> Jamminpotato, we do provide instructions on what to do and how to fix things
[03:41] <DBO> !exploit > Jamminpotato
[03:41] <Jamminpotato> ubotu always knows
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about always knows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <brendonjt> sris:  i know what you mean  on that one,  umm
[03:42] <h00t> how can i use shared folders on a windows computer on my network ... do i have to install samba
[03:42] <_miko> which java should i download RPM, x64, x64RPM, self extract
[03:42] <sris> brendonjt, i just hope i dont destroy my windows-install because then im screwd too ;)
[03:42] <Flannel> h00t: yeah, basically.
[03:42] <wweasel> h00t: I do believe it should work out of the box. Places > Network Servers
[03:43] <Flannel> !tell h00t about samba
[03:43] <wweasel> Not sure on that one. Am I wrong Flannel?
[03:43] <_miko> are they all the same?
[03:43] <Flannel> _miko: why not use the one from the repositories?
[03:43] <Flannel> wweasel: I imagine he wants to share back and forth between win/ubuntu
[03:43] <_miko> how do i use it?
[03:43] <Flannel> !tell _miko about java
[03:43] <wweasel> Does anyone know why Places automatically puts a link to ~/Documents if that folder exists, and how I can turn it off?
[03:44] <brendonjt> sris:  umm you can boot of your windows xp disk  and  go to the repair consol and type fdisk .mbr  and that will make it back to the default  ms config
[03:44] <h00t> Flannel: damn it works out of the box ... yayy
[03:44] <h00t> wweasel: : damn it works out of the box ... yayy
[03:44] <sris> brendonjt, oh, i didnt know that, thanks
[03:44] <smick> I'm getting an error installing updates. Some never install, probably because I tried to fix either compiz or freemind at some point. The error is this:  Some updates require the removal of further software.  The following updates will be skipped  gdk-imlib1
[03:44] <wweasel> hoot: :)
[03:44] <h00t> ubuntu kicks ass
[03:44] <Flannel> h00t: right.  But if you want two way communication, you'll need samba
[03:45] <wweasel> Flannel: Do you have any idea about my problem with the Places menu auto-adding ~/Documents
[03:45] <h00t> i'm not sharing anything w/ my girfriend ... just using her system as storage for my Ghost in the shell rips... her system is top notch (rich parents)
[03:45] <Flannel> wweasel: No idea, I don't deal with gnome often
[03:46] <Tom__> FTP server. Can I run one on a Dapper desktop without installing Dapper as a server?
[03:46] <Guitarhero11> is there a way to reinstall gnome, i screwed it up toubleshooting something and now gnome terminal is gone and i cant reinstall it
[03:46] <Guitarhero11> i have xfce terminal
[03:46] <brendonjt> sris:  that ok,  just keep trying  to  install  ubuntu
[03:46] <h00t> also ... can someone tell me where can i see file associations ... ie i want to uninstall bittorent client and have everything handled by azureus
[03:47] <BlueEagle> tom__: yes. you can simply install ie. proftpd
[03:47] <wweasel> hoot: Just right click on it and select Open With or the equivalent. That way you can set default.
[03:47] <BlueEagle> h00t: right-click the .torrent file and choose properties. Go to the "open with" tab and choose the application you want to handle .torrent files.
[03:47] <Tom__> BlueEagle. Thanks!
[03:47] <BlueEagle> tom__: np
[03:48] <Flannel> Tom__: the 'server' is just ubuntu without a GUI, the 'desktop' is just a GUI ontop of the server.  Technically, you already have the 'server' installed
[03:48] <Tom__> So I just need proftpd?
[03:48] <philip> rar archive says I need  password, but the sender swears it's not password encrypted. What can I do?
[03:49] <adam12> man after some help on th ubuntu forms I got the gui gnome desktop installed on my lamp server.
[03:49] <arthomps> anybody have stability issues with k8 smp on an x2?  i find i'm getting random freezes once every 2/3 days.  driving me nuts.  no logs
[03:50] <h00t> i have just 'fixed' in 5 minutes about 10 annoyances in linux that took me about 3 months in slackware to fix ..
[03:50] <BlueEagle> adam12: it's as simple as apt-get install ubuntu-desktop isn't it?
[03:50] <h00t> i almost feel guilty
[03:50] <Flannel> BlueEagle: should be, or the gnome meta package, if you don't want the entire ubuntu package
[03:51] <BlueEagle> h00t: Well would you have been able to fix them this quick w/o the experience you gained from slack?
[03:51] <Guitarhero11> how do i reinstall gnome
[03:51] <adam12> No I had some big problems.  Thsi guy told me how to remove or comment out a line here and there and I was bale to do a update and get going.
[03:51] <BlueEagle> guitarhero11: You only need gnome-terminal, right?
[03:51] <BlueEagle> !info gnome-terminal
[03:51] <ubotu> gnome-terminal: The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 165 kB, installed size 396 kB
[03:51] <h00t> my slack distor still won't use my widescreen monitor
[03:52] <Jamminpotato> i jut started a new session and i'm trying to umount a drive and it says its busy
[03:52] <Guitarhero11> right
[03:52] <BlueEagle> h00t: That's a fault in A) the kernel, B) the video driver or C) your X configuration.
[03:52] <ardchoille> Jamminpotato: Are you in a directory on that drive?
[03:52] <Jamminpotato> ardchoille, no
[03:52] <Jamminpotato> and it says it twice each time i try
[03:52] <h00t> it's video driver ... i use proprietary
[03:52] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: sudo umount -l /dev/drivedevice
[03:52] <Jamminpotato> nothing is open but terminal and xcaht
[03:52] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: that's a lower-case L not a 1
[03:52] <ardchoille> Jamminpotato: Are you sure you don't have a term or file manager open in a dir on that drive? I had that happen to me today.
[03:53] <stormchas3r3> how do I change the logo when booting from Kubuntu to unbuntu logo?
[03:53] <Jamminpotato> install the ubuntu-desktop-settings iirc stormchas3r3
[03:53] <Jamminpotato> BlueEagle, does -l force it?
[03:53] <Flannel> stormchas3r3: do you have ubuntu installed?
[03:53] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: not really it's a 'lazy' unmount.
[03:53] <Guitarhero11> it wont let me install gnome-terminal
[03:53] <Jamminpotato> BlueEagle, now i can't remount it
[03:54] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: in most cases it fixes the latent 'lock' that's making your drive as busy
[03:54] <Jamminpotato> it says its busy
[03:54] <Jamminpotato> again
[03:54] <Guitarhero11> gnome-terminal-data is not the right version
[03:54] <Guitarhero11> i tried reinstalling both but it gave me some system error
[03:54] <Jamminpotato> Guitarhero11, you could install xfce4-terminal or kde-terminal
[03:54] <stormchas3r3> Flannel, yes, i installed the dvd from linux format mag, and it installed all 3
[03:54] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: if you were just going to remount it you should have used the remount flag.
[03:54] <ardchoille> Jamminpotato: It's probably still mounted, type mount and see
[03:54] <Jamminpotato> BlueEagle, whats that and how do i fix whats happening now
[03:54] <Guitarhero11> i have xfce-terminal
[03:54] <Guitarhero11> i want gnome top be fixed and backl the way it was
[03:55] <Jamminpotato> ardchoille, its not mounted now
[03:55] <arthomps> anybody have stability issues with k8 smp on an x2?  i find i'm getting random freezes once every 2/3 days.  driving me nuts.  no logs
[03:56] <cadavre_exquis> hello
[03:57] <Flannel> stormchas3r3: this page (halfway down or so) http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/08/13/changing-from-ubuntu-to-kubuntu/ should work fine
[03:57] <h00t> BlueEagle: hey ... i have one more q. Azureus is complaining on every start-up that it needs to upgrade SWT library for java... i can see in Synaptic that I DO have older version.... Azureus won't udate itself since it's not ran w/ root premisions... what's the best way to upgrade that package .. should i just run it as root from terminal and let it upgrade itself
[03:57] <Jamminpotato> yea when i try to mount the drive now it says its busy unless i use the -r flag
[03:57] <buzzygirl> Hi all
[03:57] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: First off; please be more presice when asking questions. If you had wanted to remout (and not unmount) the volume I'd advised you to use another command. Secondly; If anyone asks you to execute a command you do not understand then look it up in the manual so you are sure you understand what you're about to do.
[03:57] <dibblego> how do I append both stdout and stderr to a file?
[03:58] <Jamminpotato> what does: [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[03:58] <Flannel> Jamminpotato: re-add a carriage return at the end of your fstab
[03:58] <dibblego> Jamminpotato, I bet there is no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[03:59] <stormchas3r3> Flannel, ty
[03:59] <Jamminpotato> ty Flannel
[03:59] <timsh_el> (q): i'm trying to use an external hard drive to backup some files on dapper drake. When i plug it in, it auto-mounts as read-only. I've gone to the ubuntuforums and found a topic that offers a solution (changing user permissions and/or re-mounting it as read-write); but i haven't had any luck with it so far. could you give me some advice please?
[04:00] <adam12> Since I have this lamp server going, how can I run php as a test bed on it or should I say is there a guui interface for this?
[04:02] <snoops> gui interface? in the apache config you've got a root web dir setup, pointing some port on localhost right?
[04:02] <bluefox83> having some issues with amarok, when i start it up after running the wizard..it gets hung up..
[04:02] <snoops> and setup apache config to use php that is
[04:02] <omnid> argh I just followed the directions in that thread and my xpress 200m still does not work
[04:02] <bluefox83> so i run it in the terminal and it shows where it's getting hung up
[04:02] <BlueEagle> h00t: I've never used azures so I wouldn't know. However running any application that is not 'supposed' to be run as root might be dangerous. Especially applications that accept incoming connections (like azures does)
[04:02] <bluefox83> amarok: BEGIN: QStringList DeviceManager::getDeviceStringList()
[04:02] <kaot> timshel: what file system is it formatted as?
[04:02] <dibblego> adam12, whether or not there is a gui interface, it's pretty easy at the command line - just install mod_php (?)
[04:02] <BlueEagle> h00t: Then again you'll only be running it for a limited time so it may be ok. No guarantees tho.
[04:02] <bluefox83> anyone know of a work-around?
[04:03] <BlueEagle> h00t: running stuff as root is the easiest way to destroy your system
[04:03] <holycow_> BlueEagle, not MIGHT BE dangerous, IT IS DANGEROUS
[04:03] <holycow_> all software has bugs, you can be sure someone will hose your box if your running pretty much anything as root
[04:03] <h00t> BlueEagle: so how can i upgrade that package ... i see it in synaptic... BTW I know that I will have this problem in the future so ... i mean there's gotta be something like 'apt-get pckg upgrade' ... sorry debian syntax
[04:04] <alex222> Hello, I installed XGL and I don't see a MENUBAR or borders around the windows!
[04:05] <varsendaggr> has anyone gotten gmailfs to work?
[04:05] <kaot> alex222: yeah that's kind of a common one.  I used the "startcompiz" script method and sometimes I have to run that a half-dozen times before compiz will actually start.  Poke around the www.compiz.net forums for more info
[04:05] <BlueEagle> h00t: have you run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[04:05] <adam12> I get and error that mod no such file or directory
[04:05] <BlueEagle> h00t: if that doesn't upgrade the package then there's very probable that there is a very good reason for the newer version not to appear in the repositories.
[04:06] <BlueEagle> h00t: you can install it from elsewhere but then again it might break your system (which might be the reason it's not in the repos)
[04:06] <kaot> Q: the package "ubuntu-desktop" is actually a metapackage, right? I"m trying to get rid of some stuff I don't want (OpenOffice, etc) and removing that requires removing ubuntu-desktop.  What exactly will that brea?
[04:06] <kaot> *break
[04:06] <DBO> kaot, mostly its useful for upgrades
[04:06] <BlueEagle> kaot: not much.
[04:06] <DBO> kaot, so keep that in mind when you go to dist-upgrade
[04:06] <h00t> ok ... i understand that ... i guess for now i'll just make azureus not check for updates .. thanx
[04:07] <BlueEagle> kaot: ie ubuntu-desktop depends on everything that is required to have a 'real' ubuntu desktop system. However nothing depends on the ubuntu-desktop package.
[04:07] <varsendaggr> kaot,    i just removed open office by going into synaptic and searching for open office   and deleting those packages
[04:07] <kaot> varsendaggr: I guess I'm unlucky or something.  When I tried to uninstall open office it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <kaot> but, if it's just there for dist-upgrade or whatever I guess I can reinstall it later on down the road.
[04:08] <HeathenDan> can someone help me setup mail check in gkrellm?
[04:08] <varsendaggr> kaot, yeah    openoffice is kindof a pig
[04:09] <BlueEagle> kaot: and so it should because it's not a complete ubuntu desktop system if it hasn't got open office.
[04:09] <h00t> just wanna say THANX FOR ALL YOUR HELP GUYS ... I'll see ya later
[04:09] <BlueEagle> heathendan: what is causing your ailments?
[04:09] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell h00t about shouting
[04:09] <Jamminpotato> when i attempt to mount /dev/sda6 i get this error message: "mount: /dev/sda6 already mounted or /mnt/common2 busy"
[04:09] <wweasel> Guys, I am having an issue with Ubuntu automatically adding an entry to the Places menu if I have ~/Documents. It says this has been fixed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/22628 - I don't get it, do I need to do something to fix it?
[04:09] <BlueEagle> :p
[04:10] <nso_> any body there who can help me linux
[04:10] <HeathenDan> i dunno what to put in 'mail fetch/check program'
[04:10] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: did you read the manual page for mount? There's a flag for sloppy mounts. It might help but then again it might not.
[04:10] <Jamminpotato> i read it didn't see it though
[04:10] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: Then you didn't read it. :)
[04:11] <snoops> nso_ ask away
[04:11] <Jamminpotato> hey HeathenDan whatchya doing over in these parts?
[04:11] <HeathenDan> im always idling here
[04:11] <HeathenDan> and i need help setting up mailcheck in gkrellm
[04:12] <Jamminpotato> ya there also tend to be more people over here
[04:12] <HeathenDan> yeah
[04:13] <wweasel> Does anyone know where /debian/patches would be? I don't know what folder /debian would be in...
[04:13] <HeathenDan> and this prob is desktop independent... i only chat in the other chan when it's specific to our distro
[04:13] <Jamminpotato> yea
[04:13] <Jamminpotato> same here
[04:13] <Jamminpotato> or when this channel is too busy
[04:14] <nso_> please give tips on ubunto linux
[04:14] <timshel> kaot: sorry, i was helping my grandfather. It is in NTSC
[04:15] <Jamminpotato> !tips>nso_
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <timshel> at least. i think it is.
[04:16] <Jamminpotato> BlueEagle, the sloppy mount didnt work
[04:17] <snoops> hmm I'm after a folder merging tool.. eg move the contents from one to another.. if there are two files with the same names, it adds something onto the file it's moving, so it can move the whole thing.. anyone know of something like that?
[04:18] <varsendaggr> snoops, will nautilus do that?
[04:18] <monklegacy> rsync ?
[04:18] <wweasel> I need help from someone fairly experienced. I need a patch in the Ubuntu nautlius source. I've already gotten the source and I know where the patch is located inside the source. Now I just need someone to help  me apply the patch and compile it. I think there's a way to make it into a deb?
[04:18] <monklegacy> ooops nm
[04:18] <CokeNCode> I have faith, that someday, my tv tuner card will work again, like it did on 5.10
[04:18] <snoops> varsendaggr nah it won't auto rename a file if said filename already exists in the folder you're moving to
[04:19] <chrisms> Hey, how can i share the internet connection with my other computer?
[04:19] <varsendaggr> snoops    i don't know but you might be able to find something on freashmeant.net
[04:19] <nekohayo> hello, what can slow down a CD drive? the ubuntu liveCD is unusable for me, but DMA *is* activated
[04:19] <nekohayo> I don't know what to look for
[04:19] <Jamminpotato> DBO the BAnhamer
[04:19] <snoops> I'd think it'd be possible with some nifty script..
[04:20] <DBO> Jamminpotato, un-banhammer to be exact
[04:20] <varsendaggr> snoops, i think so
[04:20] <snoops> thanks anyway varsendaggr
[04:20] <Jamminpotato> well you ahd to ban to unband
[04:20] <Jamminpotato> if i am trying to mount a drive and this error is shown what might be wrong: "mount: /dev/sda6 already mounted or /mnt/common2 busy"
[04:21] <Jamminpotato> and its not mounted if i run mount
[04:21] <Jamminpotato> and i cant see it
[04:21] <Jamminpotato> so its apparently busy but how do i fix that
[04:22] <wweasel> How do I build something from "apt-get source"?  A link would do.
[04:22] <Jamminpotato> there are 762 other people in here and no one can help me
[04:22] <varsendaggr> Jamminpotato, how about umount /mnt/common2
[04:22] <Jamminpotato> oh the humanity of it all!
[04:22] <varsendaggr> Jamminpotato, hey
[04:22] <Jamminpotato> varsendaggr, i want to mount it not umount it
[04:22] <HeathenDan> unmount it first
[04:22] <chrisms> anyone know how i can share my internet connection?
[04:22] <varsendaggr> have you tried to umount it?
[04:22] <Jamminpotato> then i get this: mount: /dev/sda6 already mounted or /mnt/common2 busy
[04:23] <synic> wweasel: I've not been chiming in because I think your request is really weird.... but apt-get source will download and create a directory.  cd to it and type debuild.
[04:23] <Jamminpotato> oops wrong paster
[04:23] <HeathenDan> you can't mount it if it's busy
[04:23] <Jamminpotato> if i u mount it says umount: /dev/sda6: not mounted
[04:23] <Jamminpotato> how do i make it unbusy HeathenDan
[04:23] <zebedee> Hi, doe anyone out there know anything about evolution email? I have just set it up and all my msgs have moved from my internet service provider email in box, to evolution... Where are the messages now? on my computer or held by evolution? How much space is there in evolution?? Many thanks in advance, regards z
[04:23] <varsendaggr> umount /place/where/you/mounted
[04:23] <HeathenDan> umount /mnt/common2
[04:23] <HeathenDan> not the device
[04:24] <varsendaggr> Jamminpotato, there problem solved
[04:24] <wweasel> synic: Sorry, I didn't explain it very well. This comment explains what I am trying to do: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/22628/comments/3
[04:24] <varsendaggr> next problem?
[04:24] <wweasel> synic: You can go to the main bug to see what I am trying to fix.
[04:24] <Jamminpotato> oh
[04:24] <kevinG> i'm failing all my classes
[04:24] <wweasel> synic: I believe that I need to actually build nautilus from source to apply that patch, no?
[04:24] <HeathenDan> evolution downloads the messages to your computer, and depending on how you set it up, it will delete the msgs from your isp's server
[04:24] <MaxL> How do I install a third party RAID driver in Ubuntu?
[04:25] <Jamminpotato> uh HeathenDan, varsendaggr that didnt work
[04:25] <HeathenDan> evolution can use as much space as is available in your hdd
[04:25] <MaxL> I have a SATA drive and when I try to install Ubuntu I get's to like 7% and then I get errors.
[04:25] <brendonjt> zebedee:  they will be in your inbox on evolution. imho, i have found evolution  a bit flakey i perfer thunderbird as it has a better gui
[04:25] <Jamminpotato> jamminpotato@JamminNix:~$ sudo umount /mnt/common2
[04:25] <Jamminpotato> umount: /mnt/common2: not mounted
[04:25] <synic> wweasel: yeah, I've been in here for a while.  I still think your request is weird :)
[04:25] <HeathenDan> ok, i suggest you make a new mount point for your device
[04:25] <HeathenDan> ./media/sda6 or something
[04:26] <wweasel> synic: Why?
[04:26] <HeathenDan> and use pmount instead of mount
[04:26] <Jamminpotato> pmount
[04:26] <Jamminpotato> ?
[04:26] <MaxL> HeathenDan are you talking to me? o.o;
[04:26] <brendonjt> heathandan:  what is the differance between pmount and mount?
[04:27] <HeathenDan> yes, pmount does not require root and you can 'eject volume' straight from your desktop/filemanager
[04:27] <zebedee> It makes it impossible to read my mail from another computer as nobody else is running the ubuntu o/s. Is there any way I can put it back? How do I set it up so the msgs are not deleted from isp server? Thankyou :-) Z
[04:27] <robert_> my openslsl seems to be busted
[04:27] <robert_> I can't hand-compile apache's mod_ssl without it busting
[04:27] <synic> wweasel: just seems like it's not a big deal.  Yes, if you want to apply the patch, you'll need to compile from source.
[04:27] <nso_> any body who can give me the best site for PhP biggener... tanks in advance
[04:27] <brendonjt> zebedee:  there  is a setting in your preferance to leave messages on server
[04:27] <HeathenDan> zebedee, open evolution, goto edit preferences
[04:28] <Jamminpotato> HeathenDan, pmount and changing the mountpoint made no difference
[04:28] <Jamminpotato> its still busy
[04:28] <HeathenDan> under your mail accounts, go to your isp account and click edit
[04:28] <varsendaggr> Jamminpotato, what is it?
[04:28] <Jamminpotato> varsendaggr, what is waht?
[04:28] <HeathenDan> jammin, logout first to unbusy it
[04:28] <wweasel> synic: I know, it isn't a big deal. But, I'm kinda picky :P My only remaining question is what configure perameter to pass in order to include the patch
[04:28] <zebedee> cool thanks
[04:28] <synic> wweasel: where is the patch?
[04:28] <Jamminpotato> HeathenDan, i already tried a logout and then logout+x restart
[04:28] <Jamminpotato> should i reboot?
[04:29] <wweasel> synic: debian/patches/06_documents_place.patch
[04:29] <HeathenDan> ok, and then go to 'receiving options' tab and check the leave message box
[04:29] <warlock> Anyone know how to see/change the current kernel HZ on ubuntu server 5.10 breezy?
[04:29] <synic> wweasel: did you put it there, or was it included in the source?
[04:29] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: logging out and restarting X doesn't un and remount partitions.
[04:29] <wweasel> synic: Included in the source.
[04:29] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: rebooting will surely fix the issue
[04:29] <Jamminpotato> BlueEagle, are you sugesting i restart?
[04:29] <Jamminpotato> ok
[04:29] <HeathenDan> btw, i don't suggest you save messages in the server, most isps will only give you 1-2 MB of space
[04:29] <HeathenDan> gmail, otoh, gives you a lot :p
[04:29] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: As long as you're not able to identify the process that occupies the device, yes.
[04:30] <tyler_1> can I add/remove hardware somehow??
[04:30] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: yes just add or remove the module for it.
[04:30] <warlock> Anyone know how to see/change the current kernel HZ on ubuntu server 5.10 breezy?
[04:30] <MaxL> How do I install a third party RAID driver in Ubuntu? I have a SATA drive and when I try to install Ubuntu I get to like 7% and then it fails.
[04:31] <tyler_1> BlueEagle: the module?? where might i find that
[04:31] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: In /lib/modules/ usually. (but that is probably not helpful at all)
[04:31] <warlock> Gah, noone? :(
[04:31] <tyler_1> BlueEagle: im in the dev manager.... sorry.... windows user...
[04:31] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: Why don't you tell us which piece of hardware that you want to 'add'?
[04:33] <tyler_1> BlueEagle:  remove... my radeon 9600 which shows up 2 times in the dev manager and is not working properly.... (re-install)
[04:33] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: removing the device will most certainly not help.
[04:33] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: What you want to do is alter your X-configuration
[04:33] <warlock> Anyone know how to see/change the current kernel HZ on ubuntu server 5.10 breezy?
[04:33] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: and if you've got two VGA out or DVI out then it will show up twice.
[04:34] <BlueEagle> warlock: "kernel HZ"?
[04:34] <HeathenDan> i need to put on some clothes...
[04:34] <Jamminpotato> well rebooting fixed everything
[04:34] <HeathenDan> wb Jamminpotato
[04:34] <BlueEagle> jamminpotato: good.
[04:34] <Jamminpotato> wait
[04:34] <Jamminpotato> yea
[04:34] <HeathenDan> have you mounted it?
[04:34] <Jamminpotato> yupo
[04:34] <Jamminpotato> its good to go
[04:34] <tyler_1> BlueEagle: ahhh... then why isn't my svideo working on the tv... I have tried everything for the past week, it was working last week??
[04:34] <Jamminpotato> HeathenDan is the Man
[04:34] <warlock> yes, BlueEagle - the HZ kernel or something
[04:35] <HeathenDan> nah, blueeagle's the man
[04:35] <BlueEagle> warlock: HZ as in Hertz (ie. frequency)?
[04:35] <warlock> Yeah
[04:35] <zebedee> HeathenDan: brendonjit: Thanks, it worked, found button in prefs. Now my msgs will be staying put... :-) Z
[04:35] <BlueEagle> heathendan: Thanks. :)
[04:35] <HeathenDan> did you read my caveat zebedee?
[04:35] <wweasel> synic: do you know how?
[04:35] <HeathenDan> bluefox83, the bash quote is still pending moderation =\
[04:35] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: Not sure how TV-out on ATi works but on nVidia I needed to set up dual view.
[04:36] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: google for ati linux tv-out
[04:36] <brendonjt> zebedee:  glad to be of service
[04:36] <zebedee> your what?? :-)
[04:36] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: that will almost surely give you something useful.
[04:36] <warlock> any ideas BlueEagle ?
[04:36] <brendonjt> zebedee:  glad to help out
[04:36] <BlueEagle> warlock: The kernel doesn't run on any particular frequency other than what the processor is running at as far as I know.
[04:36] <tyler_1> BlueEagle: i used the aticonfig... same as I did the first time..., now when I did that I restarted and got no picture
[04:37] <zebedee> brendonjit, glad u were there :-)
[04:37] <HeathenDan> bluefox83 = BlueEagle
[04:37] <BlueEagle> warlock: if you want the current cpu frequency then cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell you that
[04:37] <HeathenDan> silly tab autocompletion
[04:37] <Jamminpotato> if i want to make a partition my home folder and everything is already installed shouldi jsut copy the contents of my home folder to the new partition then mount the new partition at /home?
[04:37] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: I've never used aticonfig and I do not know what it does to your xorg.conf file so I am unfortunately unable to help.
[04:38] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: however I do believe that if you google the terms I said then you will find something helpful.
[04:38] <warlock> cant find it BlueEagle - what should it be called?
[04:38] <BlueEagle> warlock: You can't find what?
[04:38] <zebedee> Heathendan: sorry did I read your caveat?? what is that?? :-) z
[04:38] <BlueEagle> warlock: cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep MHz
[04:38] <warlock> ok
 btw, i don't suggest you save messages in the server, most isps will only give you 1-2 MB of space
[04:38] <warlock> oh
[04:39] <warlock> cpu MHz : 3192.292
[04:39] <warlock> cpu MHz : 3192.292
[04:39] <warlock> That ?
[04:39] <tyler_1>  BlueEagle: beenderdundat.... ty anyways
[04:39] <BlueEagle> warlock: mine yelds: cpu MHz         : 731.072
[04:39] <Adore> hello evry body
[04:39] <Adore> i need help
[04:39] <Jamminpotato> if i want to make a partition my home folder and everything is already installed shouldi jsut copy the contents of my home folder to the new partition then mount the new partition at /home?
[04:39] <Adore> i want to install java to ubuntu
[04:39] <brendonjt> adore:just ask away
[04:39] <warlock> BlueEagle, hmm. weird. that aint the HZ kernel
[04:39] <Adore> i do it
[04:39] <Adore> but
[04:39] <warlock> DBO - perhaps you know how to see the HZ kernel?
[04:40] <zebedee> heathendan: thanx will bear that in mind. Many thanks :-) z
[04:40] <Adore> no chat room open
[04:40] <brendonjt> adore: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[04:40] <Adore> i do it
[04:40] <Adore> why no any chat room open?
[04:40] <brendonjt> adore: then type the following sudo update-alternatives --config java and choose option 3  i think it is
[04:40] <Adore> if i do it again
[04:41] <Adore> i will lost java
[04:41] <Adore> ?
[04:41] <Adore> aha
[04:41] <Adore> thanks
[04:41] <tritium> !enter
[04:41] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:41] <brendonjt> adore: no problem
[04:41] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: Do you get anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[04:42] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: that pertains to the TV that is.
[04:42] <Adore> update-alternatives: unknown argument `and'
[04:42] <BlueEagle> tyler_1: That's the next step I'd take to debug the issue.
[04:42] <BlueEagle> However now I'm going to bed.
[04:43] <philip> rar archive says I need to enter password, but the sender swears it's not password encrypted. What can I do? A problem with the rar program?
[04:43] <rofl0r> i have a 4mb matrox card on a 21" crt - if i use 16 bit in xorg.conf i can use resolutions gtr than 1152* 864, but if i use 24bpp i can't. after my calculation, it shoould be possible to use 1280*1024*24bb, which results in 3,75mb of graphics memory. am i wrong ?
[04:43] <DBO> warlock, there is a patch you can apply to your kernel to publish that in /proc/sys/kernel/hz
[04:43] <Adore> yes
[04:43] <brendonjt> adore:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:43] <DBO> warlock, but beyond that I cant help you much
[04:43] <Adore> i do it
[04:43] <Adore> it's ok
[04:43] <BlueEagle> adore: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:43] <BlueEagle> synic: and choose option 3
[04:43] <Adore> i will try now to open chat room
[04:43] <BlueEagle> synic: sorry, mis-nicked
[04:43] <Adore> Thanks all for helping me
[04:43] <BlueEagle> adore: and choose option 3
[04:43] <Adore> thank you very much
[04:43] <Adore> yes
[04:43] <glench1> anyone got anything to suggest while I've got the livecd running?
[04:43] <BlueEagle> :D
[04:44] <coder2000> what packages do I need to install to develop with gtk?
[04:44] <glench1> especially a good game
[04:44] <Adore> i do it Blie Eagle
[04:44] <HeathenDan> frozen bubble!
[04:44] <Adore> Blue Eagle
[04:44] <w1w1t0m1> hello, which package do you use to correct displaying web sites with flash components?
[04:44] <HeathenDan> or robots!
[04:44] <Adore> sorrry
[04:44] <Fleebailey33> what's the command to kill with by pid ?
[04:44] <glench1> besides frozen bubble -_-
[04:44] <[apoRt] > killall
[04:44] <Fleebailey33> sorry for ignorance
[04:44] <HeathenDan> robots!
[04:44] <[apoRt] > no, no robots. Killall
[04:44] <Fleebailey33> if i have the specific pid though
[04:44] <BlueEagle> mine sweeper
[04:44] <BlueEagle> :p
[04:44] <brendonjt> BlueEagle: that is just what i told him/her to do  oh well
[04:44] <HeathenDan> robots > *
[04:44] <glench1> :(
[04:44] <HeathenDan> frozen bubble > robots > *
[04:45] <w1w1t0m1> Fleebailey33 kill -9 <pid>
[04:45] <glench1> robots, eh?
[04:45] <BlueEagle> brendonjt: I saw. :)
[04:45] <Fleebailey33> thank you wlw
[04:45] <glench1> I feel like such a nerd
[04:45] <HeathenDan> it's damn fun
[04:45] <rofl0r> i have a 4mb matrox card on a 21" crt - if i use 16 bit in xorg.conf i can use resolutions gtr than 1152* 864, but if i use 24bpp i can't. after my calculation, it shoould be possible to use 1280*1024*24bb, which results in 3,75mb of graphics memory. am i wrong ?
[04:45] <[apoRt] > my mistake, killall kills by name
[04:45] <glench1> I'm in my very cold basement running ubuntu off my mom's laptop :(
[04:45] <Adore> ops
[04:45] <anthony> my wireless connection is, according to the network settings, "actrive", yet it is not appearing as a connection at the top-right.  is this normal/expected? I'm completely new to all this Linux marlarky !
[04:45] <Adore> the chat room couldn't open
[04:45] <Adore> untill now
[04:45] <tritium> Adore: you called?
[04:46] <glench1> Anothony, I have the same problem
[04:46] <coder2000> what packages do I need to install to develop with gtk?
[04:46] <brendonjt> adore:  what chatroom
[04:46] <glench1> I'm just going wired right
[04:46] <Adore> http://www.mazika.com/ar/chat.aspx
[04:46] <CraZy675> where can I find php.ini in ubuntu server?  I've run a locate and it doesn't seem to show up
[04:46] <CraZy675> does php5 or apache2 rename it?
[04:46] <CraZy675> or am i just dumb
[04:47] <coder2000> CraZy675, have you tried updatedb first?
[04:47] <Toge> hello
[04:47] <Adore> Stop wishes
[04:47] <ubuntu> will the wifi use wpa-psk soon ?
[04:47] <tritium> Adore: why did you call for "ops"?
[04:47] <anthony> glench1, haha, same here.  I've been trying to get this thing installed for the last week, having no end of problems!  I've been following this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13576and trying to sort it, but it's tripping up at the "make"
[04:47] <Adore> no
[04:47] <DBO> Trinisan, he was saying oops
[04:47] <Toge> I need a ftp client to download and upload files, what do you know?
[04:47] <DBO> tritium, ^^
[04:47] <Adore> i say it when i in problem
[04:47] <_mason> Hey, im having and always have had a problem with ubuntu not recognising the full speed of the eth0 device, i have an Asus A8N-SLI motherboard, does anyone know if and what i need to do / use to fix it?
[04:47] <Adore> yes
[04:47] <w1w1t0m1> CraZy675: you can also use apt-file
[04:47] <Adore> heheheehe
[04:47] <CraZy675> coder2000: no i have not tried
[04:48] <CraZy675> i'll try that
[04:48] <tritium> Adore, DBO: okay, thanks
[04:48] <_mason> Ill see if i can grab the model number
[04:48] <Adore> not at all
[04:48] <glench1> wow, there sure are a lot of people with problems
[04:48] <oferw> so what to do with the internet connection that not working after the system update?
[04:48] <timshel> (q): i'm trying to use an external hard drive to backup some files on dapper drake. When i plug it in, it auto-mounts as read-only. I've gone to the ubuntuforums and found a topic that offers a solution (changing user permissions and/or re-mounting it as read-write); but i haven't had any luck with it so far. could you give me some advice please? (i think it is ntsc formatted)
[04:48] <CraZy675> updatedb ?
[04:48] <glench1> I should hang in #ubuntu more often
[04:49] <Adore> if i download java for Linux
[04:49] <Adore> is it will work?
[04:49] <Adore> and how?
[04:49] <anthony> glench1, I;'ve been recording mine: http://www.woodendice.org/anthony/problem_after_problemmmm.html NOT fun :(
[04:49] <Adore> the java it's too important to me
[04:49] <coder2000> CraZy675, locate runs against a database which updatedb creates based on the files on your system.
[04:49] <Adore> to can chat with beauty girls
[04:50] <anthony> timshel, linux does not write to ntfs
[04:50] <CraZy675> oh
[04:50] <arthomps> anybody have stability issues with k8 smp on an x2?  i find i'm getting random freezes once every 2/3 days.  driving me nuts.  no logs
[04:50] <CraZy675> that is good to know
[04:50] <Adore> hehhehehhe
[04:50] <anthony> timshel, reformat as FAT32
[04:50] <timshel> anthony: its not possible to write on it then?
[04:50] <timshel> oh.
[04:50] <Adore> oh
[04:50] <ubuntu_> YO
[04:51] <Muhamer> U guys here still
[04:51] <coder2000> what packages do I need to install to develop with gtk?
[04:51] <Adore> i hate girls
[04:51] <Muhamer> u hate girls
[04:51] <timshel> anthony: does a reformat erase the drive? is there a way to reformat it from ubuntu?
[04:51] <Muhamer> ur gay
[04:51] <Muhamer> hah
[04:51] <anthony> timshel, it is possible, but windows made it so difficult to do, that no-one has worked out the algorythm yet.  it's possible but illadvised and dangerous
[04:51] <tritium> Adore: please stay on topic
[04:51] <Muhamer> YO
[04:51] <tritium> Muhamer: none of that
[04:51] <Adore> i am sorry
[04:51] <synic> coder2000: depends on what language you want to use.
[04:51] <anthony> timshel, reformat does yes
[04:51] <coder2000> c++
[04:52] <Qwerty_> How i can copy files into /opt/gtkradiant?
[04:52] <timshel> anthony: thanks. i guess i'll have to bring it back to work then and change the format type on windows. i hope it doesn't entail a format/erasage of the data though
[04:52] <synic> libgtkmm-2.4-dev
[04:52] <Muhamer> cmaan
[04:52] <Muhamer> no one here can help me
[04:52] <warlock> how to check distro version?
[04:52] <imperfect-> howdy
[04:52] <imperfect-> anyone here running conroe on LTS?
[04:52] <Muhamer> who can help me
[04:52] <anthony> timshel, under windows: FAT32 -> ntfs = easy. ntfs -> FAT32 = hard + erase all data
[04:52] <warlock> Anyone ?
[04:52] <_mason> I cant get my "nForce4 built-in Gbit" To work as a gbit card (only 10mb/s) in ubuntu
[04:52] <synic> coder2000: libgtkmm-2.4-dev
[04:52] <Muhamer> say my name and help me nabs
[04:52] <timshel> D:
[04:52] <oferw> also after doing sudo pppoeconf and running all wizard still not connecting
[04:52] <imperfect-> My shyt keeps locking up
[04:52] <warlock> How to see my distro version?
[04:52] <CraZy675> i have 5 php.ini files 3 are in an examples dir
[04:52] <Muhamer> FIne
[04:52] <tritium> warlock: lsb_release -a
[04:52] <Muhamer> o
[04:52] <anthony> timshel, yeah.  I was gutted when I found out
[04:52] <arthomps> warlock.  assuming u mean kernel version.uname -r
[04:52] <Muhamer> wrong channel lmao
[04:52] <coder2000> synic, thanks
[04:52] <warlock> thanks
[04:53] <CraZy675> the remaining 2 show registered globals as OFF
[04:53] <timshel> anthony: hassle-full microsoft -_-;.. ah well. thanks for explaining it to me
[04:53] <Qwerty_> How i can copy files into /opt/gtkradiant? i keep getting an error
[04:53] <Adore> Shall i know if the ubuntu need software to make a graphic higher ,or not?
[04:53] <timshel> take care all /leaving
[04:53] <imperfect-> Anyone here running a Core 2 system?.
[04:53] <anthony> timshel, no probs
[04:54] <synic> coder2000: probably need build-essential too.
[04:55] <anthony> I'm trying to install my wireless adapter correctly using this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13576 it's failing at the first "make" command. can someone help please? I have errors you can look at and everything.....
[04:55] <Luakagon> In my charmap there are assigned symbols that aren't displayed, hom do I get to see the pritty symbols?
[04:56] <Abst> Anyone know where apt-get puts config files?
[04:56] <Adore> Where can i download free books to learn more about Linux ubuntu???
[04:56] <coder2000> what repository would I find libxcursor-dev and libxfixes-dev?
[04:57] <frogzoo> !docs
[04:57] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[04:57] <tritium> coder2000: main
[04:57] <Abst> frogzoo: For me?
[04:57] <Adore> Thank you very much
[04:58] <tritium> Abst: most config files belong in /etc
[04:58] <omnid> For some reason I'm getting good speeds in glxgears ~200 FPS
[04:58] <oferw> Adore: check this as well http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[04:58] <Thalass> I'm wondering... has there been talk of a port of Ubuntu for Linux? I've been searching for a few days, and I was drawn back to Ubuntu, being the only flavour of Linux that I've actually tried :P
[04:58] <omnid> BUT I can only see about 2 or 3 frames per second
[04:58] <tritium> Thalass: huh?
[04:58] <coder2000> yeah huh?
[04:58] <Thalass> heh
[04:59] <coder2000> Ubuntu is linux
[04:59] <Adore> yes
[04:59] <coder2000> or a version there of
[04:59] <Thalass> Port to the Palm OS device, rather.
[04:59] <Thalass> (aie bad fingers)
[04:59] <coder2000> that I would have no idea
[05:00] <Adore> i would like to tanks all good minds here
[05:00] <coder2000> I don't think there are many versions of linux for the Palm Pilot it being a proprietery device and all.
[05:00] <Adore> Thanks*
[05:00] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone know how I can access the recorded programs on my tivo from linux? How can I mount my tivo on my LAN?
[05:00] <Thalass> woe. oh well. If only I knew some coding-fu, I could do it myself. heh.
[05:00] <Thalass> I have found a couple of projects, but they all seem kinda... half done.
[05:00] <Abst> Im looking for eggdrop.conf
[05:00] <kevinG> Is linux available for the nintendo DS yet?
[05:01] <tritium> Abst: dpkg -L eggdrop
[05:01] <Abst> tritium: Thankyou!
[05:01] <tritium> Abst: find it?  :)
[05:01] <coder2000> http://palm-linux.sourceforge.net/
[05:01] <Abst> Hmm
[05:01] <Abst> Its not in there
[05:02] <josesito> please help!! my cpu is at 100% always... please can someone help me fix that?
[05:02] <warlock> whats the latest smp kernel avalible. and can you grab the source ?
[05:02] <kevinG> how do you check what percentage of CPU is being used?
[05:02] <warlock> kevinG, use 'top'
[05:03] <josesito> via desklet
[05:03] <warlock> Could anyone help me with the latest SMP kernel available? and if I can grab the source?
[05:03] <warlock> Im using ubuntu server 5.10 breezy
[05:03] <Thalass> Coder: I've seen that. it's been a while since updating.
[05:04] <Thalass> Anyway. Thanks for the help. I was just wondering (wishfull thinking, perhaps)
[05:04] <warlock> sorry Abst - I just stated it wrong, had to re-state the question
[05:04] <kevinG> the percentages are followed by letters
[05:04] <kevinG> but i'm assuming they all add up to the total
[05:04] <kevinG> in which case my cpu is also around 100%
[05:05] <kevinG> though I'm at 38C
[05:05] <josesito> anyone please?
[05:05] <arthomps> anybody have stability issues with k8 smp on an x2?  i find i'm getting random freezes once every 2/3 days.  driving me nuts.  no logs
[05:05] <Apple_Juice> hey u guys
[05:05] <Abst> Hey
[05:05] <Abst> u gu
[05:05] <Abst> y
[05:06] <kevinG> what's the difference of k8 vs. generic?
[05:06] <Apple_Juice> hey abst what r u guys tallking about
[05:06] <Abst> Ubuntu
[05:06] <Apple_Juice> oh
[05:06] <Apple_Juice> k
[05:06] <warlock> Could anyone help me with the latest SMP kernel available? and if I can grab the source? I'm using ubuntu server 5.10 breezy with 2 intel P4 D CPU's
[05:07] <Flannel> warlock: you should be able to grab the source, yeah, from the repositories
[05:07] <tritium> warlock: apt-cache search linux-source to find out what sources are available
[05:07] <Flannel> !tell warlock about kernel
[05:07] <Apple_Juice> what is the new linux called
[05:08] <Flannel> Apple_Juice: what?
[05:08] <Abst> New linux?
[05:08] <Apple_Juice> there is a new linux
[05:08] <Adore> my e-mail box doesn't open , and i have live mail beta . what can i do to see my e-mails ?
[05:08] <Abst> Not as far as I know.
[05:08] <kevinG> linux just gets upgraded by version number
[05:08] <Abst> The new ubuntu is Dapper.
[05:08] <Apple_Juice> yea dapper
[05:08] <Apple_Juice> thats is
[05:08] <Abst> 6.06 Dapper Drake
[05:08] <Apple_Juice> it
[05:08] <Abst> Thats Ubuntu's codename, not linux.
[05:08] <Apple_Juice> is it better
[05:08] <Abst> Yes
[05:08] <Apple_Juice> oh ok
[05:09] <CraZy675> omg
[05:09] <Abst> omg what?
[05:09] <CraZy675> that would be hard to explain
[05:09] <josesito> please? someone? cpu at 100% here...any ideas?
[05:09] <Abst> !repeat
[05:09] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:09] <CraZy675> top?
[05:10] <josesito> !patience
[05:10] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:10] <Apple_Juice> connection now
[05:10] <Apple_Juice> wait
[05:10] <Apple_Juice> huh
[05:10] <Abst> Apple_Juice, to updater?
[05:10] <backz> Hi, my server got rebooted today, and I dont know why, on /var/log/syslog I haven't "exiting on signal" messages, simple restart of syslogd and rebooting kernel. How can I know why server was rebooted? Power fails?
[05:10] <josesito> CraZy675, the 2 most cpu consuming apps are xorg and lpd
[05:11] <josesito>  4639 root      15   0  158m  37m  11m S 10.6  7.9   4:55.81 Xorg
[05:11] <josesito>  5148 daemon    22   0  4488  752  492 S  3.7  0.2   2:42.55 lpd
[05:11] <CraZy675> interesting
[05:11] <CraZy675> i don't know how to help you
[05:11] <josesito> xD
[05:11] <josesito> lol
[05:11] <josesito> oh well, thanks anyway
[05:11] <[apoRt] > kill your processes one by one
[05:11] <[apoRt] > when your cpu usage goes down, you know which is the culprit
[05:12] <josesito> is that safe??
[05:12] <DarkMageZ> no
[05:12] <Apple_Juice> abst
[05:12] <ScribbleJ> ssh user@ubuntu-host "sudo cat foo.txt" > foo.txt   I don't have much of a question here, but when i run the preceeding command, ssh asks for my password, then sudo asks for my password *and echoes it*.
[05:12] <josesito> i thought so
[05:12] <Apple_Juice> what is the worst program
[05:12] <Abst> What do you mean
[05:12] <Apple_Juice> for the internet
[05:12] <Apple_Juice> like the slowest
[05:12] <Abst> Erm
[05:12] <Apple_Juice> lol
[05:12] <Abst> Internet Explorer.
[05:13] <Flannel> ScribbleJ: file a bug report
[05:13] <Apple_Juice> thought so
[05:13] <DarkMageZ> firefox under linux
[05:13] <Moustafa> i need to setup untivirus for ubuntu
[05:13] <DarkMageZ> internet explorer isn't actually that slow
[05:13] <Abst> DarkMageZ: I disagree.
[05:13] <DarkMageZ> sure ie is crap, but it's not slow
[05:13] <ScribbleJ> Flannel, you think it' s abug - or is it an result of the use of > there?
[05:13] <Flannel> ScribbleJ: it echoes it to the file?
[05:14] <ScribbleJ> No, just to my terminal.
[05:14] <coder2000> How would I copy dvds without first ripping to an iso?
[05:14] <Apple_Juice> <madam lane>
[05:14] <Flannel> ScribbleJ: I believe that's a bug.  Although, I'm no expert.  Can't hurt to file a bug, most they'll do is mark it as not-a-bug ;)
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[05:14] <Apple_Juice> how do i change my nick
[05:14] <ScribbleJ> Fair enough, Flannel.
[05:15] <[apoRt] > apple, with /nick
[05:15] <DarkMageZ> Abst, over the last 3 months, i've run into lots and lots of examples of firefox under linux seriously underperforming compared to its windows counterpart
[05:15] <wachunei> hi guys, i have a question, how can i watch a QTVR in ubunru?
[05:15] <wachunei> *ubuntu?
[05:15] <Apple_Juice> apple/nick
[05:15] <DarkMageZ> Abst, i'll see if i can find one for you now
[05:15] <Apple_Juice> huh
[05:15] <[apoRt] > type /nick nickname
[05:15] <[apoRt] > and it changes it
[05:15] <CraZy675> i already have updatedb as a cron jom
[05:15] <Apple_Juice> oh
[05:15] <CraZy675> job
[05:15] <ScribbleJ> wachunei - do you have the appropriate drivers installed and working?  That's a tv tuner?
[05:15] <Flannel> ScribbleJ: I'm not familiar enough with ssh (the program) to know why it might do that.  Seems that the sudo should run independantly in the terminal, as it probably is doing, however ssh isn't honoring the echo off, or... something like that
[05:16] <Apple_Juice> Minute Maid/Nick name
[05:16] <Apple_Juice> dang it
[05:16] <wachunei> ScribbleJ: it's the quictime movie that you move.. with the hand..
[05:16] <reptyle> its not a bug.
[05:16] <ScribbleJ> Sounds like you knwo as much as I do, Flannel.
[05:16] <Apple_Juice> minute maid/nick name
[05:16] <Apple_Juice> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:16] <[apoRt] > Apple_Juice, type "/nick Minute Maid"
[05:16] <tritium> Apple_Juice: stop please
[05:16] <reptyle> ssh is not allocating a pseduo tty due the "run command" parameter...
[05:16] <ScribbleJ> wachunei, oh... n/m then - I don't know anything about that.
[05:16] <CraZy675> i'm having trouble changing my php settings /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini doesn't seem to me the file ubuntu server is using
[05:17] <ScribbleJ> reptyle, I figured it was something along those lines...
[05:17] <reptyle> it will probably not echo the password if you pass ssh the -t option to allocate a tty
[05:17] <muhammad> is there any way to install satellite cards ?
[05:17] <ScribbleJ> Thanks... I'll give that a shot next time.
[05:17] <ScribbleJ> ++reptyle.
[05:17] <reptyle> I run libterm apps thru multiple servers and require the allocated tty :).. I've run into that before.
[05:17] <warlock> How to see all files starting with a "c" in a dir?
[05:18] <wachunei> warlock: use nautilus
[05:18] <reptyle> if you run ssh bare, it thinks you want a terminal, if you tell it to run a command it thinks you don't need a tty...
[05:18] <ScribbleJ> reptyle, maybe you know this then... is there a simple way to 'chain' an ssh tunnel through multiple machines?
[05:18] <warlock> wachunei, through a command please? :/
[05:18] <Flannel> CraZy675: It should be.  Are you restarting apache?
[05:18] <warlock> ls -la .c*
[05:18] <warlock> ?
[05:18] <Stallion> there
[05:18] <ScribbleJ> Simple as in - can be done in one command line. :)
[05:18] <wachunei> warlock: dunno
[05:18] <CraZy675> Flannel: I have not made any changes to it so i shouldn't need to restart apache
[05:18] <warlock> ..
[05:19] <steve__> well  daffy duck er sorry dapper drake seems to be working fine on my 128mb 333mhz imac although it took some time to instal
[05:19] <CraZy675> Flannel: but if thats the right file I know I'm on the right track
[05:19] <reptyle> ScribbleJ, I would say probably.. but mostly I need to access 1 system then ssh to an internal one... so I've never had to do that :)
[05:19] <Flannel> CraZy675: if you hadn't made any changes, then how are you having trouble changing it?
[05:19] <ScribbleJ> Ah.
[05:19] <reptyle> ScribbleJ, but I would use the ssh agent forwarding for that.
[05:20] <CraZy675> Flannel: Register_globals; is off in the ini file but my joomla install says its On
[05:20] <ScribbleJ> I have a situation where I am on machine A, have ssh access to machine B, which has ssh access to machine C, which has ssh access to machine D, and I want to connect to a serivce on D.
[05:20] <CraZy675> oh i should learn to read
[05:20] <CraZy675> registered global emulation is on
[05:20] <CraZy675> i don't even know what that means
[05:20] <Flannel> CraZy675: glad you figured it out ;)
[05:20] <Stallion> does anyone like the show friends
[05:20] <tritium> Stallion: please stay on topic
[05:21] <Flannel> Stallion: #ubuntu-offtopic for general chitchat
[05:21] <CraZy675> Flannel: thanks for the help
[05:21] <reptyle> ScribbleJ, in one line.. I'd have to work that out.. but it can be done with port forwarding.
[05:21] <ScribbleJ> Reptyle, yes, I *do* it now.
[05:21] <Stallion> #unbuntu-offtopic
[05:21] <Stallion> >
[05:21] <ScribbleJ> But I do it in three commandlines.
[05:21] <ScribbleJ> Heh
[05:21] <reptyle> ScribbleJ, it'll just be slow :)
[05:21] <Stallion> ?
[05:21] <Flannel> Stallion: /join #ubuntu-offtopic, not unbuntu
[05:21] <warlock> How to see all files starting with a "c" in a dir?
[05:22] <_azrael> warlock: ls c*
[05:22] <warlock> _azrael:
[05:22] <warlock> root@zkillz:/usr/src# ls c*
[05:22] <warlock> ls: c*: No such file or directory
[05:22] <ScribbleJ> Then htere are no files beginning with c there.
[05:22] <warlock> hm, but with .c I'd be doing ls .c* ?
[05:23] <ScribbleJ> No, ls *.c
[05:23] <reptyle> or possibly ls [cC] * :P
[05:23] <warlock> ok
[05:23] <wweasel> I have a .patch file I'd like to apply to nautilus. I don't mind rebuilding it from source if I have to. How do I go about it?
[05:24] <ScribbleJ> wweasel, patching, or the whole build-from-source process?
[05:24] <rcmiv> quit
[05:24] <ScribbleJ> In a nutshell it's apt-get build-dep <package>; apt-get source <package> then untar the package and run debian/rules -- uh, someone?
[05:24] <backz> how I check if a script on my /etc/init.d/ is set to start when system reboot?
[05:25] <ScribbleJ> debian/rules unpack?  stampdir?
[05:25] <wweasel> ScribbleJ: I know how to build from source. I downloaded the source using apt-get source, and it includes the patch. If I don't want to rebuild I don't need to.
[05:25] <Peregrino> Can anyone Helpme with Ubuntu 6.06 Live_
[05:25] <ScribbleJ> Whatever, someone else knows this, then apply the patch, and run debian/rules binary
[05:25] <Peregrino> Can anyone Helpme with Ubuntu 6.06 Live?
[05:25] <Flannel> wweasel: check the changelog of the package, it'll let you know if been applied
[05:25] <ScribbleJ> wweasel... sorry - I think I didn't understand the question properly.
[05:25] <Stallion> abst im so confused
[05:26] <Abst> Stallion, about
[05:26] <wweasel> Flannel: Could you help me on that one? It's the patch discussed on this bug page that fixes this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/22628
[05:26] <Peregrino> Can anyone Helpme with Ubuntu 6.06 Live?
[05:26] <ScribbleJ> Peregrino, if you just ask your question,y ou'll proibably get helped.
[05:27] <ScribbleJ> If you ask to ask, you'll probably get ignored.
[05:27] <Flannel> wweasel: ah.  Um, well, at packages.ubuntu.com you can check the changelog (find the package, scroll down down down, then click the changelog)
[05:27] <FirstStrike> We can't help you if you don't actually ask your question
[05:27] <Peregrino> -__- OK, I just want to boot the Live Cd in expert mode
[05:27] <Peregrino> but it seems to be impossible XD
[05:27] <Flannel> Peregrino: you can't
[05:27] <budweiser> wenas algun chileno?
[05:28] <Gevaudan82> Hi, I don't mean to start a rant or anything but is there any reason why the synaptec repos only have an older version of apache available with a non-traditional folder structure? are there other repos out there that have the latest version with a more standard feel to it?
[05:28] <HeathenDan> it's not as expertish as you may think
[05:28] <ScribbleJ> Peregrino, you'd possibly get enjoyment out of the Server CD.
[05:28] <budweiser> ALGUN CHILENO??
[05:28] <Flannel> Gevaudan82: its the debian/ubuntu folder structure, and, versions are frozen (besides bugfixes) per release
[05:28] <budweiser> ALGUIEN DE CHILE??=(
[05:28] <budweiser> ALGUIEN RESPONDE XD
[05:28] <Flannel> !es
[05:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:28] <Peregrino> I mean, in Ubuntu 5.10 there was a "live-expert" parameter to boot
[05:28] <Peregrino> Budweiser
[05:29] <HeathenDan> err, don't flood the chan and don't shout
[05:29] <natrixgli> I'm having trouble running Ubuntu-Server on my new box - it's an AMD X2 - see http://natrix.freeshell.org/syslogsept01.txt - system fails @ 17:17, and I get an error on boot about not being able to load kernel modules. Any help would be most appreciated!
[05:29] <Peregrino> #ubuntu-es para espa;ol
[05:29] <budweiser> I DONT KNOW IRC..I NEDD CHANGE CHANEL!!
[05:29] <Gevaudan82> Flannel: cool, thanks...i was just really surprised when installing apache, ssl, php, perl and the like through synaptec and all the version informatino showed up when accessing localhost or whatever it may be...this alone seems like a giant security risk
[05:29] <tritium> budweiser: /j #ubuntu-es
[05:30] <Gevaudan82> i don't mind compiling stuff, but i'm sure i'd screw things up compiling the latest version of everything by hand
[05:30] <Flannel> Gevaudan82: Er, version info?  That's fairly standard for apache
[05:30] <Peregrino> Budweiser Metete en #Ubuntu-es para espanol, aca hay ayuda en ingles nomas
[05:30] <budweiser_> wenas
[05:30] <Gevaudan82> Flannel: for apache, yes...but for everything else, it seems unnecessary
[05:30] <budweiser_> ALGUIEN AYUDA??
[05:30] <Flannel> Gevaudan82: all the security patches are applied, its up-to-date that way
[05:30] <Flannel> Gevaudan82: no, normal apache gives versions for everything else as well
[05:31] <Nikyo> Hi, does the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS CD-Rom have the install option for the server?
[05:31] <Flannel> Nikyo: you want the alternate ISO
[05:31] <tritium> Nikyo: no, that is a separate image
[05:31] <Flannel> Nikyo: or, the server iso
[05:31] <wweasel> Flannel: The changelog mentions that patch. I can't tell if it was applied though
[05:31] <ScribbleJ> Nikyo, there is a seperate server installer CD
[05:31] <Gevaudan82> Flannel: interesting, i'll have to look how to turn that off...I'm normally a redhat/centos guy but i'm slowly migrating to ubuntu as a home/personal server platform
[05:31] <ScribbleJ> http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/  Check here
[05:31] <Peregrino> So, any idea on ow to boot in expert mode_
[05:31] <wweasel> ScribbleJ: Trust me, I got that far :)
[05:32] <Nikyo> tks Flannel
[05:32] <Peregrino> I need to boot a live Ver. of Ubuntu, but i need it to don-t use hotplug
[05:32] <Flannel> Gevaudan82: you'll probably find the ubuntu method of files/mods/etc a bit more friendly/intuitive, but as far as I know generic apache does provide that info
[05:32] <ScribbleJ> wweasel, hah, that URL was for Nikyo.
[05:32] <wweasel> ScribbleJ: The changelog mentions the patch. Doesn't say whether it is applied by default though.
[05:32] <Nikyo> Flannel: Does the Server work really well with Samba?
[05:32] <muhammad> any way to install satellite cards ?
[05:32] <Skuz`> is there a way i can get my other mouse buttons working?
[05:33] <Skuz`> iw ould like to have buttons 4 - 7 availible
[05:33] <Flannel> Nikyo: if you want the LAMP server and fancy kernels at instlal, you want the server ISO, if you want the old-style 'server' (just a text environment) type 'server' at the alternate ISO's install prompt
[05:33] <Skuz`> or at least 4 and 5
[05:33] <ScribbleJ> Nikyo, the server and desktop both work the same with samba.  Which, yes, is well.
[05:33] <Flannel> !tell Skuz` about mouse
[05:33] <Skuz`> good work :)
[05:33] <Gevaudan82> Flannel: i've read the faq, but aside from a text mode installer and a XAMPP option which I don't want, is there any real difference between the server iso and the regular iso which I already have? lightning struck my server a couple weeks ago and my new box comes in on monday
[05:34] <Nikyo> Tks ScribbleJ & Flannel for your time.. I'll give it a shot
[05:34] <ScribbleJ> wweasel, I didn't look at the patch, but if it's in the changelog, it's applied to the binary.  If it's something you have to turn on when compiling, it's on.
[05:34] <Flannel> Gevaudan82: it's not XAMMP, its LAMP.  The server ISO does have some server-tuned kernels.  Server and Alternate use the same text-mode installer
[05:34] <donk3y> If I perfer the KDE desktop Do I download Kubuntu?
[05:34] <ScribbleJ> donk3y, YES!
[05:34] <ScribbleJ> ++donk3y
[05:34] <Peregrino> Flannel> You told me that I can't boot in expert mode with Ubuntu 6.06 Live version???
[05:34] <Flannel> Gevaudan82: but, you can use the desktop ISO to install the entire thing, you'll just have a GUI ontop as well.  (alternate 'server' option is simply ubuntu-standard, instead of ubuntu-desktop)
[05:34] <Gevaudan82> Flannel: interesting, i'll download the iso and try it out
[05:35] <ScribbleJ> donkey, or you can go with the UBuntu image and just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop after the install.
[05:35] <Gevaudan82> Flannel: good information, thanks
[05:35] <donk3y> Thanks
[05:35] <axisys> anyone successfully install xgl on intel video ?
[05:35] <Flannel> Peregrino: I don't believe so.  But I'm not very familiar with the liveCD.
[05:35] <wweasel> Ok. But it says it fixes the bug that is bothering me. And it doesn't :P I figured I might need to apply the patch
[05:35] <Flannel> axisys: #ubuntu-xgl (or just #xgl)
[05:35] <axisys> my laptop comes with intel video card
[05:35] <mister_roboto> ScribbleJ: does getting the kubuntu-desktop install all the normal kde apps that come with kubuntu install though?
[05:35] <axisys> Flannel: thnx
[05:35] <mister_roboto> ScribbleJ: I know you can always get them later but it's not really the same, is it?
[05:36] <Flannel> mister_roboto: yep, it'd be just like installing kubuntu from the CD
[05:36] <Gevaudan82> axisys: oh xgl...how i love thee...but i just hope it becomes much more standardized across hardware and distros
[05:36] <mister_roboto> Flannel: are you quite sure about that? there are a lot of kde apps that aren't just the desktop
[05:36] <wweasel> ScribbleJ: Ok. But it says it fixes the bug that is bothering me. And it doesn't :P I figured I might need to apply the patch
[05:36] <ScribbleJ> Mister_roboto, it does get the apps, I've done it both ways and not noticed anything missing -- HOWEVER
[05:36] <Flannel> mister_roboto: yes.  kubuntu-desktop is what is installed by the kubuntu CD it's not just KDE
[05:37] <ScribbleJ> Yo only get the nice kubunut blue boot logo if you install from the kubuntu disk or do other magic I haven't looked into.
[05:37] <wweasel> ScribbleJ: See, my problem is that Ubuntu automatically adds an entry to the Places panel if you have a folder ~/Documents. I don't want it :P
[05:37] <natrixgli> has anyone seen / fixed this before? : Sep  1 20:14:09 talk kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.15.
[05:37] <natrixgli> Sep  1 20:14:09 talk kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.Sep  1 20:14:09 talk kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.15.
[05:37] <Flannel> ScribbleJ: nah.  They install from the meta package too
[05:37] <jplum> right now i just have a fresh ubuntu install but want to install windows and dual boot, can anyone point me to a good web page that can describe how to do this?
[05:37] <ScribbleJ> Flannel, is that new in dapper?  Because I'm quite certain they did not replace my ubuntu logos previously.
[05:37] <Flannel> !tell jplum about dualboot
[05:37] <axisys> Gevaudan82: sled xgl works perfect.. i like to see ubuntu does that too
[05:37] <Gevaudan82> jplum: install windows first, then install ubuntu and manually partition
[05:37] <mister_roboto> ScribbleJ: ok, thanks. what about this... if you install kubuntu-desktop, does it leave any gnome stuff running when you boot kde?
[05:38] <Flannel> ScribbleJ: not that Im aware.  I'm running breezy and had to switch back from the KDE splash etc after adding kubuntu
[05:38] <rak> hey i'm trying to install vmware using synaptic package manager but i get this error "E: vmware-player: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[05:38] <ScribbleJ> mister_roboto... I'd have to check a machine where I've done it to tell you for certain.  I know I've wound up with gnome stuff running, but probably from using gnome apps.
[05:38] <Gevaudan82> jplum: 100mb for /boot (ext3), 1000 mb for swap (swap) and then fill up the rest with / if you want the easiest way
[05:38] <Flannel> mister_roboto: it could, but if you log out of gnome, gnome is no longer running.  But if you had a separate login, then yes, they could both be running
[05:39] <ScribbleJ> mister_roboto - if I remember correctly, it'll also ask you whether you want gdm or kdm.
[05:39] <jplum> Gevaudan82 ok so i have to delete and reformat the whole hdd and install windows first, then go to install gentoo?
[05:39] <mister_roboto> Flannel: makes sense. i've always wondered if installing kubuntu-desktop and booting into kde gives you the *exact* same thing as kubuntu.
[05:39] <Peregrino> Cya!
[05:39] <Flannel> jplum: no, you can do windows afterwards, but it's easier with windows first.
[05:40] <Flannel> jplum: let me get you THAT link
[05:40] <Gevaudan82> axisys: i'm afraid of messing up my ubuntu install which is currently configured to try xgl on ubuntu...when messing around with suse a few months back i had xgl working but the menu bar (with the min,max, close button) would never appear and I could not move windows around...since suse is pushing suse, I figure my hardware will fair about the same under ubuntu...firegl 5200 mobility 256M
[05:40] <jplum> Flannel ok
[05:40] <ScribbleJ> mister_roboto -- all I can add is that from a user perspective, I couldn't tell any difference between the two.
[05:40] <Flannel> mister_roboto: yep, except you have the ubuntu programs too.  But, for instance, if you ran the alternate ISO, installed the server option, then apt-get ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop, it'd be exactly the same as the kubuntu/ubuntu CD
[05:40] <Gevaudan82> jplum: install windows, delete all your partitions and allocate whatever space you want to windows and leave the rest empty...then install ubuntu and either 1. manuall partition or 2. tell ubuntu to use the remaining free space
[05:40] <Flannel> jplum: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:41] <Flannel> jplum: after you install windows, you have to reinstall grub (since
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Gevaudan82: Make a quick backup .. One line in a terminal does it
[05:41] <Flannel> jplum: since windows likes to take over
[05:41] <mister_roboto> Flannel: that's good to know. i'll take your word for it, unless i find out different ;)
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Gevaudan82: then no worries about what you want to try
[05:41] <ScribbleJ> Jack_Sparrow, dd if=/dev/hda of=/bootbackup bs=512 count=1 ?
[05:41] <Flannel> mister_roboto: that's the beauty (and the whole point of) of package management.
[05:42] <jplum> Flannel if i install windows first i wouldnt have to reinstall grub after i install ubuntu right
[05:42] <natrixgli> Sep  1 20:14:09 talk kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.15.
[05:42] <Gevaudan82> Jack_Sparrow: that's an interesting question you propose...what do you use for backups? I've considered partimage and rsync/tar but i want something i can restore indiviaul files with like acronis trueimage allows in windows
[05:42] <no_dog> How do I restart alsa?
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> ScribbleJ: I prefer tar -cvpzf /backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[05:42] <crimsun> no_dog: what do you mean by "restart"?
[05:42] <mister_roboto> Flannel: sure, i understand that. i also understand that whoever puts together the kubuntu-desktop meta package isn't necessarily perfect in that regard :)
[05:42] <Flannel> jplum: right, and if you install windows second, you need to give it a pre-made hda1 partition, since it doesn't like anywhere else
[05:42] <Flannel> mister_roboto: except that's what the installer uses.
[05:42] <ScribbleJ> Jack_Sparrow, Ah, you're talking abotu a different backup... I thought you meant just the parittion/boot image.
[05:42] <Gevaudan82> jplum: grub will install itself and detect your windows install
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Gevaudan82: I amage the whole install
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Image
[05:43] <no_dog> crimsun: Well, I made the fatal mistake of trying to use two different applications that produce sound at the same time, and now I have no sound at all.
[05:43] <Flannel> mister_roboto: so, if kubuntu-desktop was lacking, it wouldn't be installed from the install CD either
[05:43] <searchdream> which command to create a file fold?
[05:43] <no_dog> crumsun: I thought that if I could somehow restart alsa, all would be well in the kingdom.
[05:43] <mister_roboto> Flannel: aha
[05:43] <crimsun> no_dog: specifically, what did you attempt?
[05:43] <Gevaudan82> Jack_Sparrow: using what? partimage? i've always wondered...is the mbr included in this backup if you back /boot and /
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Gevaudan82: Do you have ANY backup now..?
[05:43] <jplum> Gevaudan82 ok i think i understand now, since i have the time im probably going to reformat and install windows first then ubuntu to save me time and grief
[05:43] <no_dog> crimsun: I had mp3s playing in Rhythmbox, and I tried to watch a flash video in Firefox.
[05:44] <Greatmetal> flash is only version 7 in linux :9
[05:44] <Greatmetal> :(
[05:44] <crimsun> no_dog: have you closed both Firefox and Rhythmbox?
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > Gevaudan82:
[05:44] <imperfect-> Anyone here had trouble getting LTS to boot with a Conroe chip?
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[05:44] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[05:44] <no_dog> crimsun: No, would that help?
[05:44] <rak> to see ubuntu does that too
 jplum: install windows first, then install ubuntu and manually partition
 ScribbleJ: ok, thanks. what about this... if you install kubuntu-desktop, does it leave any gnome stuff running wh
[05:44] <crimsun> no_dog: it's the best place to start debugging
[05:45] <Gevaudan82> Jack_Sparrow: not of linux...i wrote a shell script to tar the partitions and copy it to my external drive but it was kind of half ass...i never tested it and i doubt it would restore if i hosed my partitions...i just want the best of both worlds: individual file backups and partiton backups
[05:45] <Flannel> mister_roboto: in fact, for the non-liveCD installer (pre-dapper install, or dapper alternate), all it did was start a temp linux system, and then apt-get the meta package (using the repository on the CD) - in a nutshell
[05:45] <slid3r> anyone install the apt version of gkrellm with the weather plugin?
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Gevaudan82: Do you have ANY backup now..?
[05:45] <ScribbleJ> Gevaudan82, Here's how to back up mbr:  dd if=/dev/hda of=/backupfile bs=512 count=1 .... be VERY careful to do that all correctly.  if= your hard drive device.
[05:45] <jdahm> hey, I have these DNS servers that I use manually, but every time I bootup it resets the servers, can I set them permanently?
[05:45] <JoseStefan> jplum, it's best if you dont let windows use 100% of the disc from the start, that way you wont have to resize
[05:45] <Gevaudan82> Jack_Sparrow: not of linux
[05:45] <Flannel> imperfect-: try 6.06.1 - it fixes some problems with the original installer
[05:45] <ScribbleJ> Oops.
[05:45] <slid3r> cant find where to configure my location
[05:45] <ScribbleJ> count=1
[05:45] <ScribbleJ> Oh, that is what I typed... damn this font.
[05:45] <Greatmetal> ohhh i know how to get OSX on a pc useing linux as a median :)
[05:46] <no_dog> crimsun: I closed both apps, but still no sound
[05:46] <imperfect-> Flannel : Anything like loading kernel---freeze ?
[05:46] <mister_roboto> Flannel: that's good information. never looking into the installer before, or had anyone mention that fact
[05:46] <crimsun> no_dog: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[05:46] <Flannel> imperfect-: that might be a bad burn, did you burn it at 4x?
[05:46] <crimsun> no_dog: pastebin the output from the above command
[05:46] <Flannel> imperfect-: and check the md5 etc?
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Gevaudan82: I understand what you want.. but until then.. use anything...
[05:46] <imperfect-> Flannel : I am using the free cd's
[05:46] <mister_roboto> rak:??
[05:46] <imperfect-> Flannel : They sent me burned cds
[05:46] <Gevaudan82> ScribbleJ: thanks for this...i'll look into this syntax
[05:46] <Flannel> imperfect-: ah, well, 6.06.1 fixes some of the errors, I don't know what specifically, you might look into that on the ubuntu site
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Gevaudan82: Restoring individual files is a little trickier in Linux.... Due to dependencies and such...
[05:47] <ScribbleJ> Gevaudan82, dd ranks in the top ten most useful simple command line utilities ever.  It's worth knowing. :)
[05:47] <imperfect-> I just built a 6600 system
[05:47] <imperfect-> fucking think detects eth0
[05:47] <imperfect-> but then it doesnt exist.. i dont get it
[05:47] <imperfect-> dmesg
[05:47] <no_dog> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/781787
[05:47] <imperfect-> shows me eth0
[05:47] <Flannel> !language
[05:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:47] <Gevaudan82> Jack_Sparrow: I should probally email my hosting provider at eapps.com...i e-mailed them once and inquired on their restoration capabilities which they helped me out with once and they said they used a combination of tar and rsync
[05:47] <ScribbleJ> Gevaudan82, to help you along, that command copies the first 512 bytes off your hard drive.
[05:48] <donk3y> In KDE what could you use to burn an ISO file?
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> saves the mbr
[05:48] <ScribbleJ> donk3y, k3b
[05:48] <Gevaudan82> dok3y: k3b
[05:48] <maple1> k4b
[05:48] <Gevaudan82> i use k3b in gnome even...really polished tool as far as i'm concerned
[05:49] <ScribbleJ> No, the k4b is what you take to the r4v3 if your 7337.
[05:49] <donk3y> what is it under
[05:49] <JoseStefan> Flannel, imperfect-: you might see some changes here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-August/000088.html
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> In Ubuntu we right click and burn the iso
[05:49] <ScribbleJ> Just apt-get install k3b
[05:49] <ScribbleJ> Heh
[05:49] <Gevaudan82> donk3y: you have to install it...apt-get install k3b
[05:49] <sara_> K#B is the bomb, I love it
[05:49] <sara_> k3b
[05:49] <donk3y> im on gentoo at the moment =/
[05:49] <donk3y> haha
[05:49] <ScribbleJ> Ah...
[05:49] <Gevaudan82> ScribbleJ: damn and i thought i could type fast :)
[05:50] <ScribbleJ> Gevaudan82, you typed a lot more. :)
[05:50] <sara_> I'm trying to find good dj mixing software for ubuntu, ive tried gdam and loved it but cant get it installed on ubuntu after several tries, mixxx is okay to but crashes
[05:50] <ScribbleJ> Anyone tried bastille on ubuntu?
[05:50] <brendonjt> sara_: i agree i reckon  that k3b  is just as good if not better than nero
[05:50] <_mason> Can anyone help me with my Onboard nForce Gbit Device?
[05:50] <sara_> i agree
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> K3b agreed
[05:51] <_mason> it is only working as a 10mb/s card
[05:51] <jdahm> hey, I have these DNS servers that I use manually, but every time I bootup it resets the servers, can I set them permanently?
[05:51] <crimsun> no_dog: interesting, esd is running. Close it by unchecking (in GNOME) System> Preferences> Sound> Enable software sound mixing
[05:51] <Gevaudan82> brendonjt: i've hated nero for about three years now...seems really bloated now...on windows i use ashampoo burning suite...it's like 30 bucks
[05:51] <jplum> JoseStefan thanks for the tip
[05:51] <sara_> I like the feature in nero for crossfading one tune into the other or having the end of one song wind down and mix into the next
[05:51] <brendonjt> it's a pitty ahead didn't do a complete  linux version of nero  it would be the bomb
[05:51] <philips> I am running a T30 under Dapper and the wireless is showing Access Point: Invalid after setting the essid, but is able to scan networks...
[05:52] <sara_> but I cant find many things that nero does that K3B cant do better
[05:52] <Gevaudan82> ^
[05:52] <jplum> any that dual boots have any experience with FS-Drive
[05:52] <ScribbleJ> jdahm, in /etc/network/interfaces, add dns-nameserver lines to the relevant places.
[05:52] <no_dog> crimsun: Done. Now what?
[05:52] <ScribbleJ> jdahm, need me to be more specific?
[05:52] <brendonjt> Gevaudan82:  the nero  suite  was good,  but the version you get with  cd/dvd writers is crap i hate it
[05:53] <sara_> plus no bad karma crack codes needed for k3b , good ole opensource comes through again
[05:53] <JoseStefan> jdahm, personally i set that kind of setting on my DHCP server (my router) but that may not apply to you
[05:53] <Gevaudan82> brendonjt: that was the version i got so i sympathize
[05:53] <crimsun> no_dog: now test: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[05:53] <brendonjt> sara_: hear hear to that one
[05:54] <jdahm> JoseStefan, ah, I might just do that
[05:54] <brendonjt> Gevaudan82:  i  did a crack and downloaded version 6 ultra and it was nice and simple
[05:54] <jdahm> JoseStefan, I think I tried that and it didnt keep them
[05:55] <_mason> Can nobody help me with my network issue?
[05:55] <brendonjt> sara_: in saying that ahead did do a version of nero for linux but you had to have a comerical version of the windows version to use it
[05:55] <no_dog> crimsun: Seems to work now. That was easy :)
[05:55] <no_dog> crimsun: Thanks!
[05:55] <Gevaudan82> brendonjt: honestly all i want from a recording software is to burn an audio cd, burn dvd/cd isos, and burn a data disc so i'm not really picky...the ui and the startup load if anything determines my choice
[05:55] <slid3r> anyone install the apt version of gkrellm with the weather plugin?
[05:55] <slid3r> cant find where to configure my location
[05:55] <AmericanGunner> I have a theme install issue
[05:55] <AmericanGunner> any help?
[05:55] <sara_> I've become convinced that Bill Gates doesnt need any more money, he needs souls/karma, millions upon millions of people hitting the "I stole this software and I accept the punishment" button after downloading a pirated copy of a program and putting in its serial
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: whats the prob
[05:56] <ScribbleJ> sara_, Bill Gates just announced he's quitting Microsoft.  Your joke is a little late.
[05:56] <Gevaudan82> sara_: bill gates is out pretty much...blame balmer for any of microsoft's latest misshaps
[05:56] <Luakagon> o noz
[05:56] <AmericanGunner> i get a invalid format error
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: Drag the tar and drop on the theme manager
[05:56] <AmericanGunner> tried that
[05:56] <Adore> I NEED HELP
[05:56] <OisacX> sara_: but if you had a version of nero with your burner, you can take this cd-key to put it in nerolinux. it's supposed to work
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: 1 in 10 on gnome-look.org will not work on all distros
[05:56] <JoseStefan> sara_ bill doesnt care much about that, it's the greedy M$ investors that do
[05:56] <ScribbleJ> HAH! Take that, Gevaudan82 !  Beat you AGAIN.
[05:56] <ScribbleJ> I mean, uh...
[05:56] <AmericanGunner> i have tried dozens
[05:56] <Adore> did anyone here use NETGEAR router?
[05:56] <Gevaudan82> heh, :)
[05:57] <sara_> opensource is my saviour
[05:57] <Adore> i want username and password
[05:57] <Adore> to can login
[05:57] <brendonjt> Gevaudan82:  true  k3b is snap loaded there up  no waiting
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> JoseStefan: greedy M$ investors have lost half their money in the last two years.. Linux IS making a difference
[05:57] <irawan> AmericanGunner: try the hard way, extract the theme and see what's inside, put them into appropriate directories
[05:57] <Gevaudan82> it would be for me, but there are too many driver issues for me to go totally open source...i run vmware on my laptop (primary machien) but linux on my server
[05:58] <AmericanGunner> what are the directories?
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: are you using Ubuntu
[05:58] <AmericanGunner> yes
[05:58] <AmericanGunner> 6.06
[05:58] <sara_> I have a very hard time believing that Bill Gates is leaving Microsoft in all finacial respects... as figure-head maybe
[05:58] <Stallion> hi
[05:58] <irawan> AmericanGunner: you can have a look at the /usr/share/themes for themes, /usr/share/icons for icons
[05:59] <ScribbleJ> sara_, he actually left as a figure-head quit e along time ago.
[05:59] <ScribbleJ> When he resigned as Director.
[05:59] <sara_> he sold all his shares?
[05:59] <irawan> AmericanGunner: if you're still not sure, you can install some of themes available in the package manager, and then compare it
[05:59] <ScribbleJ> I'm not sure; that's not really relevant to his figure-headness, which is all I was addressing.
[06:00] <sara_> he must have made a pile selling all his shares
[06:00] <Gevaudan82> sara_: he'll be the guy that chimes in and reviews other people's ideas but he's not the idea maker anymore and certainly not the project manager...ballmer's in charge as an MBA, money is more important than innovation
[06:00] <AmericanGunner> i find ubuntu a little confusing
[06:00] <Flannel> Guys, take the MS/Gates discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, if you don't mind
[06:00] <ScribbleJ> AmericanGunner, what are you used to?
[06:00] <AmericanGunner> xp
[06:00] <brendonjt> sara_: yeah but he will still have input there somewhere  he not that stupid  look at the cost fir a bloated os(windows)  compared to something more powerful ie linux lol
[06:00] <ScribbleJ> Have you used any other OSes?
[06:00] <Adore> did anyone know what's the username and password of NETGEAR router please?
[06:00] <Gevaudan82> Flannel: gotcha, first time connecting to ubuntu's irc servers
[06:00] <irawan> AmericanGunner: it's not confusing, but not familiar
[06:00] <AmericanGunner> 2000
[06:01] <Knelix> Hello.... I think I'm having a path problem with MAME. I've copied over some of my ROMS.. I can't move them to the default location via the GUI (GNOME), and I don't wanna mess too much with the terminal, so I pointed the ROM directory to another folder... and STILL it will not recognize any of them... Hopefully you guys can help me. Not sure what's going on now.
[06:01] <sara_> I'd go out on a limb by saying dapper drake is supieror to any windows operating system ive been on since I started using PC's in 1982
[06:01] <ScribbleJ> That's not really another OS... as such -- anyhow, your first time using a different OS is bound to be a little confusing.  Stick with it - you'll be glad you did.
[06:01] <irawan> AmericanGunner: I'm not familiar with windows, but can use it for simple tasks
[06:01] <AmericanGunner> pm?
[06:01] <RedRose> toshiba: not a supported Toshiba laptop It recommend I rebuilt My kernel, should I, and how?
[06:01] <sfp> my X server failed to start on dapper drake. how can i fix it?
[06:01] <ScribbleJ> I personally find Windows to be frustrating to no ends... no doubt due to my lack of knwoledge there.
[06:01] <sara_> virus-ridden
[06:02] <irawan> AmericanGunner: pm? what is it, sorry?
[06:02] <brendonjt> scribblej:win 3.1/98/98se/me/xp osx/jag/pantha fc2/fc3 mandrake and ubuntu
[06:02] <AmericanGunner> private message
[06:02] <ScribbleJ> sfp, had you just changed anything?  And can you look at the logfiles?
[06:02] <irawan> AmericanGunner: sure
[06:02] <sfp> it was shut off for a while
[06:02] <brendonjt> scribblej: but i just use ubuntu now can't be bothered with a buggy os
[06:03] <RedRose> toshiba: not a supported Toshiba laptop It recommend I rebuilt My kernel, should I, and how?
[06:03] <sfp> now i get a bluescreen that says x server failed to start
[06:03] <sfp> the gdm isn't loading i think
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: try this one  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=39902
[06:03] <Flannel> sfp:  http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[06:03] <Knelix> No one knows anything about (x)MAME here.. is there a better channel to ask this on?
[06:03] <sfp> drops me down to a prompt.
[06:03] <Flannel> sfp: that page has a fix
[06:04] <JoseStefan> sfp, how long is "off for a while" ?
[06:04] <slid3r> I cannot believe I am the only person to install the apt version of gkrellm with the weather plugin and had difficulty changing the location, there is no place to enter my location code in the config
[06:04] <sfp> flannel: thats it. thank you. you guys are great.  josestefan probably a week or two
[06:04] <RedRose> HOW DO I UPDATE ME KERNEL?
[06:04] <Gevaudan82> slid3r: i tried gkrellm once but like most desktop widgets uninstalled it because the minimize all icon the respective widget
[06:04] <irawan> slid3r: I'm going to install it, let me see it
[06:05] <JoseStefan> !caps
[06:05] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:05] <Adore> i download this file from java.com  jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin . How can i install it to ubuntu?
[06:05] <Flannel> !tell RedRose about kernel
[06:05] <Flannel> Adore: why not use java from the repositories?
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> RedRose: What are you trying to accomplish other than getting a newer version
[06:05] <JoseStefan> Adore, you can get java from te repositores
[06:05] <Flannel> !tell Adore about java
[06:05] <Adore> it's not turn on
[06:05] <Adore> i will to turn it on
[06:05] <Gevaudan82> Adore: install sun-java-jdk i think it is..add the extra repos from within synaptec
[06:06] <Adore> aha
[06:06] <Adore> i isntalled it
[06:06] <JoseStefan> sun-java5-jre
[06:06] <Adore> but nothing work
[06:06] <AmericanGunner> it worked
[06:06] <brendonjt> adore:  so whats the problem?
[06:06] <RedRose> Jack_Sparrow, to Get Support For my Laptop
[06:06] <JoseStefan> Adore, you have to change some stuff after you install it. let me find the link
[06:06] <Adore> i warking to build sites using java
[06:06] <Gevaudan82> you have to update alternatives...search the ubuntu wiki...look under the Programming heading
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: stick with the gtk themes
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> not the gdm
[06:06] <Adore> Thank you for helping me
[06:06] <RedRose> !dc++
[06:06] <AmericanGunner> gtk?
[06:06] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: click gtk 2 on the left side of the link I gave you
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> pick from those
[06:07] <Gevaudan82> what's a good gnome wifi manger to keep track of different profiles?
[06:07] <JoseStefan> Adore, did you do this: "Selecting the default Java version" --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b
[06:07] <irawan> AmericanGunner: gdm is the login session
[06:07] <_mason> !tell _mason about Fixing His nForce Gbit Card Under Ubuntu, kThx.
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Fixing His nForce Gbit Card Under Ubuntu, kThx. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <Adore> no
[06:07] <tritium> Gevaudan82: network-manager-gnome
[06:07] <brendonjt> adore:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:08] <sara_> whats the best way to install a tarball source file? I am in a terminal, in the right folder and I see the configure file and the install-sh files...
[06:08] <tritium> _mason: do you dual-boot?
[06:08] <Adore> yea
[06:08] <Adore> and i shoose number 3
[06:08] <brendonjt> sara_: ./configure
[06:08] <_mason> tritium, yes I do
[06:08] <sara_> do I have to chmod a+x ?
[06:08] <Gevaudan82> tritim: don't appear to have that
[06:08] <brendonjt> adore:  yip
[06:08] <Adore> Thanks alot
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: Try a couple of those and see if they work
[06:09] <Adore> i will try now
[06:09] <brendonjt> sara_: not sure on that one
[06:09] <warlock> is there a way to uh, disable all stuff that has to do with "mail-server" on my server?
[06:09] <brendonjt> adore:  ok
[06:09] <AmericanGunner> mkay
[06:09] <tritium> _mason: believe it or not, there is a bug which requires you to physically unplug the computer for 20 seconds after using windows, or the nForce ethernet controller cannot use dhcp properly
[06:09] <ScribbleJ> ./configure;make;make test;sudo make install
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> sara_: Where did you get the tar... they usually have some instructions
[06:09] <Flannel> warlock: you shouldn't have any of them intalled, unless you installed them
[06:09] <Gevaudan82> tritim: found it in synaptec, thanks!
[06:09] <ScribbleJ> You might need to apt-get install build-essentials
[06:10] <sfp> what is the command to update my xorg config?
[06:10] <warlock> Flannel - but incase some idiot installed them (a hacker or something) I just want to be safe :(
[06:10] <brendonjt> sara_: there usually a readme  or install txt file
[06:10] <RedRose> !ubot
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <slid3r> I found it to all parties concerned ... by sheer luck ... .gkrellm2/user-config
[06:10] <sara_> im trying to find it
[06:10] <slid3r> edit that file
[06:10] <Gevaudan82> sfp: vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:10] <sara_> http://gdam.ffem.org/download.html   is what i'm trying to install
[06:10] <dada212> http://www.djdada.dl.am - New RnB & HipHop Musicclips and HoT Promo Tracks to Download! Check this ouT ;)
[06:10] <_mason> tritium, My problem with the card is that its not being seen as a gbit card but only 10mb/s ? same fix/problem
[06:10] <Gevaudan82> sfp: there's an x reconfigure command as well but i can't remember that...anyeone else?
[06:10] <sfp> how do i run apt-get to update it?
[06:10] <Flannel> warlock: thats a rather odd request.  Um, you could firewall smtp ports, or... top and kill the processes
[06:10] <Flannel> !ops
[06:10] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:10] <tritium> _mason: not sure about that one
[06:10] <warlock> hmm k
[06:11] <sfp> Gev: yeah thats what i was looking for
[06:11] <sfp> i need to repair it
[06:11] <DBO> Flannel?
[06:11] <paradizelost> howdy all, when i try to do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , i get an unmet dependency error
[06:11] <tritium> Flannel: what?
[06:11] <Flannel> DBO: dada212
[06:11] <nalioth> Flannel: ?
[06:11] <_mason> tritium, well, ill restart now, and check it out. Lets hope so.. (im hosting a lan in 4 hours)
[06:11] <Abst> Hey
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> sara_: I see debs on that site which whould be a better choice
[06:11] <tritium> _mason: good luck
[06:12] <Abst> #blehplease Hey
[06:12] <Gevaudan82> _mason: in four hours it will be 4 o clock in the morning...where the hell are you located?
[06:12] <brendonjt> paradizelost:  you do it as root though ae (sudo)
[06:12] <ScribbleJ> paradizelost, apt-get update
[06:12] <_mason> Australia
[06:12] <irawan> paradizelost: check your sources.list of /etc/apt/
[06:12] <Gevaudan82> _mason: ahh i see
[06:12] <_mason> :D
[06:12] <slid3r> thanks all
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[06:12] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:12] <_mason> Bye now
[06:12] <slid3r> night
[06:12] <irawan> paradizelost: make sure you have the repositories
[06:12] <sara_> Its weird, theres like 10 debs and ive tried every which way to install them and always get dependency problems for which there is no debs
[06:12] <tritium> Gevaudan82: people here are from all over the world
[06:13] <fishy> Where can I find my php.ini file if I installed LAMP following the instructions on the Ubuntu wiki?
[06:13] <paradizelost> irawan: i have the standard repo's, and i have never had a problem installing before
[06:13] <ScribbleJ> paradizelost, apt-get update;apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:13] <brendonjt> Gevaudan82:  I'm  in new zealand
[06:13] <JoseStefan> !tell sfp about xconfig
[06:13] <paradizelost> brendonjt: yes, i always run it as root
[06:13] <Eleaf> test
[06:13] <zzsputnik> hi, is there a way to have vlc player turn itself off when playlist is over
[06:13] <Flannel> fishy: /etc/php5/apache2/ or - something close to that
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sara_: tar or rpm will be no different
[06:13] <brendonjt> paradizelost:  hmm ok
[06:14] <ScribbleJ> The only time I've had that happen to me is when I haven't updated in a /long/ time.
[06:14] <sfp> jose: didn't work
[06:14] <zzsputnik> i've asked in #videolan but cannot find help
[06:14] <Gevaudan82> brendonjt,_mason: wish i could join you...north carolina, us here
[06:14] <sfp> there it is
[06:14] <sfp> cool bot jose
[06:14] <sara_> when i type ./configure  I get  configure: error: can not guess host type; you must specify one
[06:14] <JoseStefan> not mine
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: Are you having any better luck with those now?
[06:14] <JoseStefan> !seveas
[06:14] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:15] <linux__alien> is anyone using automake in Ubuntu?
[06:15] <brendonjt> Gevaudan82:  it is hot as here, my puter keeps crashing cos of the heat,  we are coming into summer
[06:15] <Knelix> Can anyone help me out with xMAME?
[06:15] <JoseStefan> not what i wanted...
[06:15] <linux__alien> when i try to compile my c++ programs using automake stuff. It checks for if g++ and then it compiles it. can anyone tell me why this comes up. i ididnt get this in FC5
[06:15] <Gevaudan82> brendonjt: i sympathize with you...my home server died about two weeks ago due to a bad ligntning storm...getting a new box next week
[06:16] <irawan> paradizelost: what are the packages that you're missing dependencies?
[06:16] <paradizelost> kdegraphics-kfile-plugins
[06:16] <paradizelost> and language-selector-qt
[06:19] <gary4gar> hii guys!
[06:19] <AmericanGunner> its working :)
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[06:19] <AmericanGunner> thanks jack sparrow
[06:19] <natrix> anyone know what this means in /var/log/messages: Sep  1 17:05:19 talk -- MARK --
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> np anytime
[06:19] <AmericanGunner> have you caught the new pirates movie?
[06:20] <gary4gar> i am reciving GDK warning in terminal when i open a gui app
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: Yes, and I have even been on the actual boat..
[06:20] <AmericanGunner> saw it 2 weeks ago it rocked
[06:20] <gary4gar> @ubuntu:~$ gedit
[06:20] <gary4gar> (gedit:4972): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[06:20] <gary4gar> (gedit:4972): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[06:20] <AmericanGunner> how?
[06:20] <gary4gar> i recive this error
[06:21] <CmdrBatGuano> The dapper alternate install disk hangs when I tell it to do guided partitioning. Please help!
[06:21] <ScribbleJ> natrix, MARK just means it's still working.
[06:21] <gary4gar> but still everything is runnning fine
[06:21] <Flannel> CmdrBatGuano: try burning it slower (4x)
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: Offtopic, but I did some work for them.... It isnt as big as the movie makes it out to be.. but it is very cool
[06:21] <AmericanGunner> coolio
[06:22] <CmdrBatGuano> Flannel:I'll run a disk integrity check.
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> AmericanGunner: Glad those are now working for you
[06:22] <Ratlump> Anyone been able to use the memory card slot in front of a laptop in linux?
[06:22] <AmericanGunner> mind if i add you to my buddie list?
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[06:22] <AmericanGunner> done
[06:23] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow,
[06:23] <natrix> I'm having lockups with Ubuntu Server on an AMD X2.. I have a logfile if anyone would be kind enough to have a look
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Ratlump: they should just show up as a usb drive when you plug one in
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi gary
[06:23] <gary4gar> i am getting warning msg
[06:23] <gary4gar> @ubuntu:~$ gedit
[06:23] <gary4gar> (gedit:4972): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[06:23] <gary4gar> (gedit:4972): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[06:23] <gary4gar> is it normal
[06:23] <gary4gar> ???
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[06:24] <GTroy> anyone tell me how to set state for my audio card?
[06:24] <natrix> http://natrix.freeshell.org/syslogsept01.txt
[06:24] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, so what should i do?
[06:24] <mungallo> natrix, are you using an SMP kernel?
[06:24] <AmericanGunner> afk
[06:24] <Knelix> How do I get MAME to switch to the game's native resolution when it runs a ROM?
[06:24] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, this only happens when running a gui app
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:25] <natrix> no, I tried but had the same problem...
[06:25] <CmdrBatGuano> It was the disk. I should have checked that before. Thanks Flannel!
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: does that work?
[06:25] <Flannel> CmdrBatGuano: burn slower ;) 4x!
[06:25] <natrix> mungallo: not quite the same problem actually, I was getting kernel panics w/the smp kernel.
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Not trying to get you to edit it, just checking gedit
[06:25] <mungallo> 32 or 64 bit?
[06:26] <ScribbleJ> natrix, -x11 1
[06:26] <GTroy> crimsun here?
[06:26] <ScribbleJ> Er...
[06:26] <ScribbleJ> Knelix, -x11 1
[06:26] <crimsun> GTroy: not really, why?
[06:26] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, well the config file opened
[06:26] <GTroy> oh, hey
[06:26] <gary4gar> but got this
[06:26] <gary4gar> @ubuntu:~$ gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:26] <gary4gar> (gksudo:5118): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[06:26] <gary4gar> (gksudo:5118): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[06:26] <gary4gar> (gedit:5119): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[06:26] <gary4gar> (gedit:5119): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[06:26] <gary4gar> (gedit:5119): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> FYI, I am only reading during commercials
[06:26] <gary4gar> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:27] <GTroy> crimsun I need to set state for my audio card
[06:27] <natrix> scribbel: I don't use X11
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Yep, you have a problem
[06:27] <ScribbleJ> natrix, ??
[06:27] <bruenig> gary4gar, warnings when using gksudo gedit are normal, if it is working, I wouldn't worry about it
[06:27] <natrix> oops just caught that
[06:27] <ScribbleJ> natrix, I didn't mean you, I mean Knelix ... sorry
[06:27] <crimsun> GTroy: alsactl store
[06:27] <gary4gar> but my vedio is bad too
[06:27] <supertanker> is there a driver for the Nvidia 7900 GT OC?
[06:27] <GTroy> crimsun ok
[06:27] <mungallo> natrix, 32 or 64 bit?
[06:27] <natrix> The only thing that seems to happen regularily before it crashes is a cron job -
[06:28] <gary4gar> even it fails to runs tvtime app, Jack_Sparrow
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: k
[06:28] <GTroy> crimsun, what else?
[06:28] <mungallo> looks like it's trying to recover tables on a mysql db.
[06:28] <crimsun> GTroy: that's it.
[06:28] <supertanker> I don't want to reinstall linux unless I know I can use my new card
[06:28] <natrix> mungallo: that's after a reboot
[06:28] <GTroy> crimsun, thank you, and sorry to pester you
[06:28] <gary4gar> so i have to edit the x11 config file, Jack_Sparrow ??
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: dont mean to leave you hanging, but I am too tired to tackle another one tonight
[06:28] <kholerabbi> I am trying to get Worms World Party running under Wine (0.9.20) on ubuntu dapper, I get this error dialog "WARNING: No default SoundBank Found Check".. could anyone help please?
[06:28] <mungallo> do you have a log from when it panics?
[06:29] <natrix> mungallo: no, I don't...sorry
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: not sure what you need to do..
[06:29] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, i have come for 6 time still no solution
[06:29] <mungallo> tanker, mose nvidia cards are supported.
[06:29] <mungallo> *most
[06:29] <gary4gar> pls tell me na, Jack_Sparrow
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Any idea what you were doing when this all started
[06:29] <ScribbleJ> kholerabbi, you might try running winecfg and changing the windows version.
[06:29] <ScribbleJ> kholerabbi, and while you're int here, check your sound config. :)
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Do you have a backup...
[06:30] <Dorraj> hey
[06:30] <Dorraj> have a quick question
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[06:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:30] <gary4gar> well i am recieving all this from day i installed ubuntu
[06:30] <Dorraj> how do i format an ubuntiu harddrive
[06:30] <mungallo> natrix: you'll want to get that log.
[06:30] <Dorraj> comp[letely uninstall
[06:30] <mattyv> gary4gar: no solution to the gtk thing or the video thing?
[06:30] <natrix> mungallo: this occurred before a few of the crashes: Aug 28 22:17:01 talk /USR/SBIN/CRON[5147] : (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[06:30] <mungallo> have you checked /var/logs?
[06:30] <GTroy> Dorraj I know how
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: That is not normal...
[06:30] <GTroy> I'll give you a link
[06:30] <mungallo> /var/log
[06:30] <gary4gar> but why tvtime app if not running??
[06:31] <natrix> mungallo: right, but the earliest it goes back (even the .gz files) is after I switched to the non-SMP kernel.
[06:31] <mungallo> erm...
[06:31] <gary4gar> @ubuntu:~$ tvtime
[06:31] <gary4gar> Running tvtime 1.0.1.
[06:31] <gary4gar> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
[06:31] <gary4gar> Reading configuration from /home/gaurish/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
[06:31] <gary4gar> xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[06:31] <gary4gar> *** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card
[06:31] <Dorraj> ok gtroy
[06:31] <gary4gar> *** driver.  If you are using an older NVIDIA card (TNT2), then
[06:31] <gary4gar> *** this capability is only available with their binary drivers.
[06:31] <gary4gar> *** For some ATI cards, this feature may be found in the experimental
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: You have done alot more than the basic install.. Just from what you have told me.
[06:31] <gary4gar> *** GATOS drivers: http://gatos.souceforge.net/
[06:31] <gary4gar> *** If unsure, please check with your distribution to see if your
[06:31] <gary4gar> *** X driver supports hardware overlay surfaces.
[06:31] <mungallo> wow, you've got some bigguns nat.
[06:31] <mungallo> ;)
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Stop flooding the channel
[06:32] <JoseStefan> !pastebin
[06:32] <gary4gar> sorry
[06:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:32] <natrix> Yeah, I need to remove some things from syslog.
[06:32] <GreenCult> hi all
[06:32] <mungallo> can you give me output from kern.log?
[06:32] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, first i had brezzey and then i updraeded my distro overnight into drapper
[06:33] <mungallo> /var/log/kern.log
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: That in itself can ba a problem/
[06:33] <natrix> mungallo - will grab it, brb
[06:33] <gary4gar> so now what??
[06:33] <Knelix> ScribbleJ, sorry I was playing some games. What was that? I want to switch res. because the scaling seems to be taking a hit on the game speed.
[06:33] <gary4gar> welll i have a onboard gfx card
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: That upgrade cannot account for all the differnt things users can do to their systems
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: I would do a clean install.
[06:34] <natrix> Sep  1 22:58:49 talk kernel: [42959270.580000]  Pid: 5014, comm:          miniserv.pl
[06:34] <natrix> Sep  1 22:58:49 talk kernel: [42959270.580000]  EIP: 0060:[_spin_lock+7/16]  CPU: 0
[06:34] <natrix> Sep  1 22:58:49 talk kernel: [42959270.580000]  EIP is at _spin_lock+0x7/0x10
[06:34] <natrix> Sep  1 22:58:49 talk kernel: [42959270.580000]   EFLAGS: 00200286    Not tainted  (2.6.15-26-server)
[06:34] <natrix> Sep  1 22:58:49 talk kernel: [42959270.580000]  EAX: c1f2982c EBX: c1f2982c ECX: 00000163 EDX: 00000000
[06:34] <gary4gar> msi-k8mm-v(via-k8m800)
[06:34] <maple1> why is mplayer taking 10 years to make?
[06:34] <natrix> Sep  1 22:58:49 talk kernel: [42959270.580000]  ESI: 8db88009 EDI: 00000001 EBP: f434c400 DS: 007b ES: 007b
[06:34] <natrix> Sep  1 22:58:49 talk kernel: [42959270.580000]  CR0: 80050033 CR2: 084e000c CR3: 1f816320 CR4: 000006b0
[06:34] <mungallo> pastebin natrix
[06:34] <natrix> Sep  1 22:58:49 talk kernel: [42959270.580000]   [__handle_mm_fault+523/928]  __handle_mm_fault+0x20b/0x3a0
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> natrix: Dont do that
[06:34] <tritium> natrix: pastebin!
[06:34] <natrix> Sep  1 22:58:49 talk kernel: [42959270.580000]   [do_page_fault+315/1790]  do_page_fault+0x13b/0x6fe
[06:34] <JoseStefan> !pastebin
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[06:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:34] <natrix> Sep  1 22:58:49 talk kernel: [42959270.580000]   [do_page_fault+0/1790]  do_page_fault+0x0/0x6fe
[06:34] <bruenig> maplel, the more vexing question is why are you compiling mplayer from source
[06:35] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, i have msi-k8mm-v(via-k8m800)
[06:35] <maple1> bruenig: the mplayer version in repository is outdated
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Run Dapper live and see how your hardware likes it
[06:35] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets/k8-series/k8m800/
[06:35] <bruenig> what features are available in the new version that you are going to use that isn't in the repo one?
[06:35] <gary4gar> see my gfx card is not that bad
[06:36] <gary4gar> i ran live cd & tried to install with it but it has a lot og bugs
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Onboard video cards are never as good as a drop in card.
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: I have given you my suggestion...
[06:37] <mungallo> natrix: did you paste it?
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Bugs.. be specific
[06:37] <gary4gar> well at least they can run at resolution of 1024x768
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: vesa will give you that
[06:38] <_mason> Does anybody know how to make samba share 'x' only assessable by user 'y' ?
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: But when you try to add tvcards and other stuff, you can run into problems
[06:38] <maple1> ok, now that I installed mplayer from source how do I get to the GUI?
[06:38] <_mason> or multiple users, or strictly not user 'z' ?
[06:38] <gary4gar> hey Jack_Sparrow i did recive this problem
[06:39] <gary4gar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215648
[06:39] <mungallo> maple: use gmplayer
[06:39] <wweasel> I am having an issue compiling a program from source. "Could not find a signing program (pgp or gpg)!" - What package do they want me to get? I alrady have gnupg...
[06:39] <varsendaggr> is 192 kb cd quality?
[06:39] <ScribbleJ> wweasel, gnupg-dev?
[06:39] <hawkaloogie> varsendaggr, in mp3, 128kbps is usually described as "undistinguishable from lossless"
[06:40] <wweasel> ScribbleJ: Doesn't exist.
[06:40] <mungallo> gary4gear: do you have the drivers for the card installed?
[06:40] <varsendaggr> cool
[06:40] <hawkaloogie> varsendaggr, but other audio codecs may be different
[06:40] <maple1> where does it store gmplayer?
[06:40] <varsendaggr> hawkaloogie, yeah mp3 baby
[06:40] <mungallo> you need to install it.
[06:40] <mungallo> I suggest apt-build.
[06:40] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, have u seen the link?
[06:40] <mungallo> if you're going to build from source.
[06:40] <Megaqwerty> is there something like the windows task manager in linux?
[06:40] <maple1> fuck this, I'll use repositories
[06:40] <mungallo> or apt-get.
[06:41] <_mason> maple1, Language
[06:41] <maple1> sorry
[06:41] <varsendaggr> how many kilobits in a megobit  1024?
[06:41] <maple1> but unix programmers are so lazy
[06:41] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Again, I would delete the breezy partitions and see what the installer finds.  I assume those are not raid since breezy is installed
[06:41] <hawkaloogie> varsendaggr, 1024 kilobytes in a megabyte
[06:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[06:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:41] <mungallo> maple1: if you want to build from source, I reccomend apt-build.
[06:41] <_mason> Again, How do i assign different samba shares to different users?
[06:42] <_mason> or can you point me in the direction of somebody/forum/channel that would know
[06:42] <hawkaloogie> Megaqwerty, gnome-system-monitor
[06:42] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[06:42] <gary4gar> well i have a alternate install cd can i do it thorugh it??, Jack_Sparrow
[06:42] <krystoff> hi there please where is now msttcorefonts please ?
[06:42] <varsendaggr> so a minute at 128 would be roughly 7.5 mega bites?
[06:42] <mungallo> _mason, I think you might be able to finagle something with chmod.
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: I thought you said you an dapper live and had problems.
[06:43] <Megaqwerty> also, does the flashplugin-nonfree in the synaptic package manager actually cost money?
[06:43] <maple1> one reason I want to compile from source is for the learning experience
[06:43] <JoseStefan> varsendaggr, no
[06:43] <hawkaloogie> Megaqwerty, no, not "free" as in cost, but "free" as in "freedom"
[06:43] <maple1> until recently I've been scared to compile from source
[06:43] <Megaqwerty> oh
[06:43] <Megaqwerty> ok, thanks
[06:43] <gary4gar> ya, also i have 265mb so installing from drapper is not good for me?
[06:44] <gary4gar> i means live cd
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: sure that is minimum spec for ram
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: It will work
[06:44] <JoseStefan> gary4gar, you mean 256mb
[06:44] <varsendaggr> JoseStefan, how many megabites is a minute of 128 kilobits per second ?
[06:45] <varsendaggr> does that make sence?
[06:45] <mungallo> maple1: its simple, but its a pain in the butt.
[06:45] <gary4gar> i have tried it seven times but still tells me that have no partions on my hdd
[06:45] <gary4gar> so it tell me to erase the whole of hdd
[06:45] <maple1> are there any alternatives to macromedia flash?
[06:45] <gary4gar> which i can't do
[06:45] <JoseStefan> varsendaggr, first of all it's "bytes" not "bites"
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Get the ultimate boot cd or gparted live and see what it says..
[06:46] <tomasz27> Windows has DVD Shrink. What does Ubuntu have that works like DVD Shrink?
[06:46] <mungallo> maple1 not really.
[06:46] <maple1> is it normal for flash to lose sync?
[06:46] <maple1> youtube loses sync between audio and video
[06:46] <_mason> tomasz27, im using dvd shrink & dvd decrypter in ubuntu
[06:46] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, it deteched them corretly1
[06:46] <_mason> ill get you the tutorial link
[06:46] <varsendaggr> ok bytes
[06:46] <mark_> you can use wine to run dvd shrink
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> tomasz27: I want to say acidrip
[06:46] <JoseStefan> varsendaggr, 128kbps x 2 / 1024 / 8 should give you the value
[06:46] <JoseStefan> varsendaggr, in MB/s
[06:47] <GTroy> anyone good with audio cards?
[06:47] <varsendaggr> JoseStefan, thanks    what is the "2" for
[06:47] <JoseStefan> varsendaggr, per channel (left+right)
[06:47] <_mason> tomasz27: DVD Shrink & DVD Decrypter Linux Guide http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: gparted in ubuntu install did not detect correctly and gparted live did.. I would do a md5sum on that cd, or burn a new one SLOWER
[06:47] <tomasz27> thx falks
[06:47] <GTroy> I know I've got the card recognized...but I'm not sure how to get sound out
[06:48] <Megaqwerty> hey, where do I find the gnome-task-manager?
[06:48] <StackedSubs> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu Server 6.06 LTS (latest version) on a Dell desktop and the install appears to have finished without any problems, I am able to use the keyboard in BIOS and on the Grub menu, but as soon as it reaches the login prompt I am unable to enter any input using my keyboard. :(
[06:48] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, i recieved the cd from ubuntu itself
[06:48] <JoseStefan> varsendaggr, that will give the value in MB/s, multiple times 60 for a minute
[06:48] <JoseStefan> multiply*
[06:48] <chalcedony> what is gaim called on ubuntu if i wanted to kill it ?
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: did you run the self test on the first menu?
[06:48] <GTroy> chalcedony type in terminal ps ax | grep gaim
[06:48] <mungallo> pkill gaim
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: The free cd's are not foolproof
[06:49] <krystoff> aren't msttcorefonts on multiverse anymore ?
[06:49] <GTroy> look for the id number and kill it
[06:49] <chalcedony> GTroy: thank you :)
[06:49] <chalcedony> yes :)
[06:49] <varsendaggr> JoseStefan, thanks so much
[06:49] <GTroy> np
[06:49] <gary4gar> ya i tried with even five diffrent cd's
[06:49] <JoseStefan> varsendaggr, i think the 128kbps, includes left+right, so you dont need the (x2)
[06:49] <tomasz27> How can I restore the original gnome look and panels (top +bottom)?
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: Then I cant help you.. it is a mystery
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: goodnight
[06:50] <tiede> Hi. I was wondering if anyone knows why it is that I am unable to change some of my Windows folders from ubuntu; for example, /My Documents, /My Music, /Program Files, /My Pictures, etc... I understand the reason for /Program Files, but I failed to see why I can't write to my /My Documents folder. The filesystem is FAT43, so ntfs is definitely not the issue here.
[06:50] <gary4gar> Jack_Sparrow, bye mate
[06:50] <Megaqwerty> gary4gar: have you checked if your keyboard is defective?
[06:50] <JoseStefan> varsendaggr, 128kbps / 1024 / 8 = MB/s
[06:50] <Megaqwerty> or are you typing from it now?
[06:50] <varsendaggr> great
[06:50] <gary4gar> Megaqwerty, i am typing it from now
[06:51] <hawkaloogie> tiede, what's the permissions look like?
[06:51] <Megaqwerty> gary4gar:oh...hmm....I don't really know. I'll think about it for a bit though (I'm using a Dell XPS Laptop right now)
[06:51] <tiede> /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=000,gid=1000       0       0, hawkaloogie
[06:51] <gary4gar> Megaqwerty, well i think i need to install drivers of my vedio cards
[06:52] <hawkaloogie> tiede, those don't look like permissions. do an ls -l /media/hda2
[06:52] <gary4gar> can u help me in it?
[06:52] <Megaqwerty> gary4gar: but that won't effect your keyboard
[06:52] <chalcedony> GTroy: do i need to kill this one too? 18672 pts/31   S+     0:00 grep gaim
[06:52] <gary4gar> i have a onboard vedio
[06:52] <krystoff> please where are now msttcorefonts ?
[06:52] <tiede> previously the umask value was 007 and the gid,46, but I changed that to no avail.
[06:52] <mungallo> Gaary.
[06:52] <gary4gar> Megaqwerty, my display is not good
[06:52] <BHSPitLappy> krystoff, you can get them from apt-get (or synaptic, or aptitude)
[06:52] <StackedSubs> Megaqwerty, were you replying to my question about the keyboard input not working at the login prompt?
[06:53] <tiede> that is a lot of data, hawkaloogie? Am I allowed to post it here.
[06:53] <Megaqwerty> gary4gar: Yeah
[06:53] <krystoff> BHSPitLappy, they are not here that's why i ask
[06:53] <chalcedony> ~$ run gaim
[06:53] <chalcedony> bash: run: command not found
[06:53] <chalcedony> ~$
[06:53] <hawkaloogie> tiede, do you see the first group of characters at the beginning of the first file listing?
[06:53] <mungallo> cat /etc/x11/xorg.conf | grep device
[06:53] <mungallo> chalc
[06:53] <tiede> yes
[06:53] <gary4gar> mungallo, i have a this chipset( www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets/k8-series/k8m800/ )
[06:53] <mungallo> gaim
[06:53] <mungallo> no run
[06:53] <chalcedony> mungallo: okies what then?
[06:54] <chalcedony> just gaim ?
[06:54] <mungallo> just type in "gaim"
[06:54] <chalcedony> okies ty :)
[06:54] <BHSPitLappy> krystoff, have you enabled multiverse and universe?
[06:54] <mungallo> yeah it should be in /bin
[06:54] <hawkaloogie> tiede, those are the permissions. the first one is special. the next three are "owner", the next three are "group", the last three are "others"
[06:54] <tiede> some are drwxrwxrwx, some are -rwxrwxrwx and others just -r-xr-xr-x
[06:54] <krystoff> yes BHSPitLappy it's both activated
[06:54] <mungallo> np
[06:54] <hawkaloogie> tiede, you probably want the "w" bit to be set on all of them
[06:54] <omnid> THE XPRESS 200M CAME FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE NETHERWORLD PLEASE AVOID IT ALL COSTS
[06:54] <JoseStefan> !caps
[06:54] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:54] <BHSPitLappy> krystoff, when's the last time you updated your lists?
[06:55] <omnid> the xpress 200m came from the depths of the netherworld please avoid it at all costs
[06:55] <krystoff> right now BHSPitLappy
[06:55] <omnid> Not as... attentioney
[06:55] <BHSPitLappy> msttcorefonts is in multiverse
[06:55] <hawkaloogie> tiede, sudo chmod ugo+w -R /media/hda2 <- should do what you want. read man chmod to figure out why it works
[06:55] <tiede> I guess. It is the write permission, right. I was wondering first if there is a reason why it is set like that by default...
[06:55] <GTroy> anyone know how to get an ice24 card to get sound out?
[06:55] <Megaqwerty> For some reason my flash player's sound isn't working any Ideas?
[06:55] <GTroy> running alsamixer....I can't get anything
[06:55] <mungallo> gary, did you run that command?
[06:55] <hawkaloogie> tiede, because it's better to be more restrictive by default, from a security standpoint
[06:56] <gary4gar> mungallo, which command?
[06:56] <krystoff> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep multiverse
[06:56] <krystoff> give me the line
[06:56] <mungallo> cat /etx/X11/xorg.conf | grep device
[06:56] <krystoff> and sudo apt-get install mssttcorefonts can't find a package
[06:56] <krystoff> msttcorefonts
[06:57] <GTroy> crimsun.... I know you're not here, but I can't get sound ... :(
[06:57] <tiede> If you say so. I just think it's quite unpractical for a new user not to be able to write to his /My Documents folder...
[06:57] <hawkaloogie> tiede, this isn't windows, ubuntu doesn't care about /My Documents
[06:57] <hawkaloogie> tiede, now /home/username <- that's a different story
[06:57] <gary4gar> mungallo, done
[06:57] <chalcedony> gaim still says i'm offline /
[06:58] <mungallo> gary: cat /etx/X11/xorg.conf | grep Device
[06:58] <mungallo> cap D
[06:58] <tiede> Yes, hawkaloogie. But I still user my files that I stored in there. And my cousin still uses windows, so I can't just move 'em around instead.
[06:58] <mungallo> chalc did you set up an account?
[06:58] <tomasz27> does acidrip turn a DVD into an AVI file?
[06:58] <krystoff> BHSPitLappy, any idea why i can't get it ?
[06:58] <hawkaloogie> tiede, so you have to tell ubuntu what to do with window's files
[06:58] <Megaqwerty> For some reason my flash player's sound isn't working any ideas?
[06:58] <JoseStefan> !info msttcorefonts
[06:58] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[06:59] <mungallo> Mega, try it in konqeror
[06:59] <hawkaloogie> Megaqwerty, no, but if you find a solution let me know, my flash sound hasn't worked for a while now
[06:59] <StackedSubs> So I just re-installed the lastest server distro and I still can't enter anything at the login prompt, it's installed on a Dell desktop and I'm using a PS/2 keyboard that I've verified is not defective
[06:59] <krystoff> JoseStefan, yes i know but i have multiverse activated but can't get the package
[06:59] <Megaqwerty> hawkaloogie: I shall
[06:59] <chalcedony> ~$ ps ax | grep gaim
[06:59] <chalcedony> 18895 pts/31   S+     0:00 grep gaim
[06:59] <chalcedony> ~$
[06:59] <chalcedony>  does that say gaim is running?
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> tomasz27: yes
[06:59] <tomasz27> thnx
[07:00] <JoseStefan> krystoff, could you put your sources.lst on the !pastebin ?0
[07:00] <mungallo> Megaqwerty: try it in a different browser.
[07:00] <cliffd> chalcedony: no it shows your grep for gaim right?
[07:00] <krystoff> yes JoseStefan
[07:00] <xhaan> theres a thread on the forums for getting flash to work right but.. the forums seem to be down atm :\
[07:00] <mungallo> chalc, did you install gaim?
[07:00] <tiede> I just needed to be able to write to them. I guess my problem is all figured out. I just have some files sometimes I wanted to save their, and wanted to avoid the hassle of saving them in a different folder than moing them once back in windows. Thanks for your solution, hawkaloogie
[07:00] <chalcedony> cliffd yes, i did .. but gaim says im offline
[07:00] <StackedSubs> xhaan, yeah the forums are down :(
[07:00] <Megaqwerty> mungallo: Alright, I will...unfortunately I just uninstalled Flash (I think) and am re-installing it.
[07:01] <chalcedony> i thought to kill all the gaim (s) and see if restarting made it work ..
[07:01] <xhaan> i wish i could remember how it goes, it has something to do with getting firefox to use alsa
[07:01] <krystoff> JoseStefan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22301
[07:01] <mungallo> Megaqwerty: that happens sometimes. its something about one browser locking it up.
[07:01] <aceracer> I'm having a little issue with nvidia drivers if anyone has time to assist.
[07:01] <BluR> !info svn
[07:01] <ubotu> Package svn does not exist in any distro I know
[07:02] <mungallo> !subversion
[07:02] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[07:02] <BluR> thank you :)
[07:02] <mungallo> np
[07:02] <Megaqwerty> mungallo: does that mean that it will be fixed eventually? like by itself?
[07:02] <mungallo> Megaqwerty: not without your assistance. ;)
[07:03] <Megaqwerty> mungallo: so, What do I have to do to fix it?
[07:03] <CokeNCode> ok, i have this program, denyhosts ... i edited the config file, but the hcanges don't seem to be taking effect
[07:03] <CokeNCode> can anyone help me out  ?
[07:03] <mungallo> Megaqwerty: I admit, I don't know, but I know a workaround.
[07:03] <krystoff> so JoseStefan any idea what's wrong here ?
[07:03] <Megaqwerty> mungallo: Could you give that to me?
[07:04] <JoseStefan> krystoff, i'm looking at it...
[07:04] <tvgm2___> The Ubuntu 6.06.1 LiveCD crashes when I attempt to install, any ideas?
[07:04] <krystoff> ok JoseStefan
[07:04] <mungallo> Megaqwerty: like I said, try a non mozilla browser. IE opera/konqueror etc.
[07:04] <Megaqwerty> mungallo: okay
[07:04] <crimsun> GTroy: you need to provide more info
[07:04] <CokeNCode> tvgm2___, does this happen with more than one pc ... or more than one cd
[07:04] <Guest35942> Hi
[07:04] <tvgm2___> more than one cd
[07:04] <JoseStefan> krystoff: easy, you dont have multiverse enabled
[07:05] <GTroy> don't know where to start crimsun
[07:05] <mungallo> CokeNCode, are you talking about /etc/hosts.deny?
[07:05] <Guest35942> name Viper
[07:05] <GTroy> I've got a chaintech av-710
[07:05] <GTroy> I see all volume controls
[07:05] <CokeNCode> mungallo, I don't think so.
[07:05] <krystoff> JoseStefan, line 27
[07:05] <aceracer> I'm getting an ols nvidia driver to load on kernel boot but I have installed the latest one from nvidia's site. How do I prevent the old driver from trying to load?
[07:05] <Guest35942> can some one help me with an upgrade from x86 to x64?
[07:05] <GTroy> the card is seen
[07:05] <JoseStefan> krystoff: that is dapper-backports
[07:05] <mungallo> aceracer: compile the new one, it'll update your xorg.conf
[07:05] <CokeNCode> http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net <---- that's what i'm talking about
[07:06] <krystoff> JoseStefan, yes u'r totally right .... it's time to bed here :)
[07:06] <JoseStefan> krystoff: you need it on "dapper" and i suggest "dapper-updates" and "dapper security" too
[07:06] <crimsun> GTroy: do /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc* exist?
[07:06] <GTroy> lemme check
[07:06] <A-L-P-H-A> Anyway to convert an NTFS to a linux style partition, without formating it? With an added twist, it's a software raid 0 drive.
[07:06] <krystoff> oki JoseStefan
[07:06] <wirelain> ubuntu ... sorry.
[07:06] <aceracer> I checked xorg.conf, I don't see anything to change the driver to load. It's already set to nvidia and the nvidia driver built the modules ...
[07:06] <ViperFox> Can anyone in here help me upgrade my kernel to the 64-bit from the x86?
[07:06] <CokeNCode> mungallo,
[07:06] <JoseStefan> krystoff: i usually just have one line per source with: "main restricted universe multiverse"
[07:06] <aceracer> Viper, I would say your far better off reinstalling
[07:07] <ViperFox> oh?
[07:07] <mungallo> yep?
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[07:07] <ViperFox> would it be too much of mess otherwise?
[07:07] <JoseStefan> krystoff: similar to your dapper-backports line
[07:07] <aceracer> yes, big mess
[07:07] <GTroy> crimson nope they don't
[07:07] <krystoff> ok can you paste me your sources.list please
[07:07] <ViperFox> crap
[07:07] <krystoff> ok
[07:07] <ViperFox> damn thing wont boot to a cd
[07:07] <aceracer> just save the important stuff someplace that won't get touched and reinstall
[07:07] <crimsun> GTroy: so ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' is inaudible?
[07:07] <ViperFox> well...
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ViperFox: There are also issuse with 64 bit
[07:07] <ViperFox> to clairify
[07:08] <ViperFox> oh?
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> ViperFox: things that wont work etc
[07:08] <ViperFox> whats the issues with 64?
[07:08] <aceracer> Jack, care to give examples?
[07:08] <aceracer> I'm using 64bit ...no problems here...yet anyway
[07:08] <Megaqwerty> mungallo: you were right that did it.
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> ViperFox: I am nodding off here, google or ask around.
[07:08] <JoseStefan> krystoff, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22302
[07:08] <ViperFox> I have a good friend (who really knows what hes doing) that runs 64
[07:08] <mungallo> video/audio codecs have trouble unless you  --force-arch-1386
[07:08] <Megaqwerty> hawkaloogie: mungallo suggested that we use a different browser (i.e. Konquerer) It worked
[07:08] <tomasz27> does acidrip work in terms of AVI >DVD format files?
[07:09] <GTroy> crimsun, can't hear it
[07:09] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know of a way to play .swf files in konquerer?
[07:09] <crimsun> GTroy: did you adjust your mixer levels?
[07:09] <hawkaloogie> Megaqwerty, but why does it work? must be because of esd
[07:09] <JoseStefan> krystoff: dont do what i did, just use it as reference, i have regret making it so compact ever since
[07:09] <GTroy> crimsun, yea
[07:09] <Megaqwerty> hawkaloogie: I have no Idea.
[07:09] <krystoff> lool ok JoseStefan
[07:09] <Megaqwerty> hawkaloogie: it must be a problem with firefox
[07:09] <aceracer> Viper, there are some things that take a little" messing with" to work on 64bit but, for the most part, I think 64bit linux is better suported then windows xp 64
[07:09] <hawkaloogie> Megaqwerty, can't be, my sound works sometimes
[07:10] <crimsun> GTroy: has it worked before?
[07:10] <mungallo> hawkaloogie: for some reason mozilla locks up flash audio, I don't know why, but thats the workaround I came up with.
[07:10] <GTroy> this card has on 5.10
[07:10] <ViperFox> ok...here is the other problem, i downloaded the 64 o/s and tried to run the install and it hangs for a while on the "mounting root filesystem" then goes on and gives some i/o buffer error about the hdd
[07:10] <GTroy> and a new asound.state file showed up
[07:10] <krystoff> thanks a lot JoseStefan and here time to bed :)
[07:10] <GTroy> for dapper
[07:10] <JoseStefan> krystoff: if you are in canada, make sure to keep the ca.
[07:10] <krystoff> yes JoseStefan
[07:10] <crimsun> GTroy: yes, that's due to different names.
[07:10] <aceracer> sata drives?
[07:10] <ViperFox> yes
[07:11] <Jack_Sparrow> ViperFox: Check that error against known bugs..
[07:11] <crimsun> GTroy: can you hear sound from the 6.06.1 live cd?
[07:11] <JoseStefan> krystoff: you have to do a sudo apt-get update now
[07:11] <GTroy> I dunno
[07:11] <aceracer> You currently running 32bit on them though?
[07:11] <GTroy> prolly not
[07:11] <crimsun> GTroy: then try that. I'm going to bed.
[07:11] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know how to get .swf files to play from my hard drive in konquerer it keeps saying "blah.swf is a file, but a folder was expected"
[07:11] <krystoff> yes JoseStefan from here it's correct :)
[07:11] <ViperFox> but they have the current 686 kernel on them from the pervious machine and will boot right up
[07:11] <GTroy> ok, thanks crimsun
[07:11] <Megaqwerty> I have tried multiple .swf files
[07:11] <aceracer> like jack said, check that issue on the forums. I think it's a common problem
[07:12] <ViperFox> hmm
[07:12] <alexis_> hola
[07:12] <ViperFox> forums seem to be down
[07:12] <xhaan> forums are back btw
[07:12] <ViperFox> ...
[07:12] <ViperFox> i stand corrected
[07:12] <KiwiNZ> yes the Forum is up
[07:12] <xhaan> :0
[07:12] <JoseStefan> forums works for me
[07:13] <aceracer> now, about my nvidia problem....again, I removed teh nvidia-glx and installed the nvidia drivers off thier site. They worked fine the first time but every time i have to reboot, the kernel tries to load old ones.
[07:13] <aceracer> says something about seeing one version but X is using a differant one..blah blah blah
[07:14] <Megaqwerty> Anyone?
[07:14] <aceracer> X is using the right one btw...
[07:14] <sktx> can anyone recommend a prog to make an ISO image from a cd?
[07:14] <mungallo> Aceracer: did your kernel get updated recently?
[07:14] <mungallo> sktx: mkisofs
[07:14] <aceracer> the only update was downloading teh k8-smp from the repos
[07:15] <jiger> hi does anyone know if any particular service etc has to be running to enable hdparm.conf to be read on startup?
[07:15] <wysiwyg> hi, i have a problem reinstalling grub on my hda from the livecd
[07:15] <sktx> ahh... i dig.. thx mungallo
[07:15] <ViperFox> have you tried to blacklist the kernels nv drivers?
[07:15] <aceracer> I had to install linux-sources and headers to get the nvidia drivers to install, I think this is part of the problem
[07:15] <mungallo> ;)
[07:15] <Presently42> If I want to purge a package and it's with out removing the dependancies, is it dpkg --force-depends --purge
[07:15] <Megaqwerty> sktx: K3b is a great tool for that
[07:16] <Presently42> If I want to purge a package and it's with out removing the dependancies, is it dpkg --force-depends --purge
[07:16] <aceracer> Viper how do I do that?
[07:16] <pip> hello ,where is xchat in Dapper ?
[07:16] <ViperFox> ....grrr someone is out trying to profit off ubuntu that isnt part of ubuntu
[07:16] <pip> I can't find it
[07:16] <ViperFox> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130020842962
[07:16] <pip> I just have installed  Dapper
[07:16] <wirelain> pip: I know gaim exists, wher ehave you ghecked?
[07:16] <sktx> thanks Megaqwerty
[07:16] <Megaqwerty> ViperFox: I'm absolutely infuriated by that.
[07:17] <xhaan> Megaqwerty, heres one way to get flash to work with sound, it's what i used: http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[07:17] <mungallo> Viper, the're not making any money.
[07:17] <wysiwyg> i tryied mounting hda2 (the ubuntu active partition), chrooting it, and then grub-install /dev/hda, but it throws "bash: /sbin/grub-install: Input/output error"
[07:17] <Zolar> I tried to install ubuntu today and it failed on a right after the ring check....  what happened
[07:17] <Megaqwerty> xhaan: Thanks!
[07:17] <dsas> pip: It's not installed by default, you can install it using add/remove programs.
[07:17] <pip> wirelain, the Internet menu has few
[07:17] <xhaan> np :0
[07:17] <wirelain> checked applications, add/remove?
[07:17] <ViperFox> they are tryin
[07:17] <mungallo> GPL says you can sell CD's as long as you include source.
[07:17] <Megaqwerty> mungallo: they are trying to
[07:17] <wirelain> it might be in the instlalers.
[07:17] <Megaqwerty> oh, Viper just said that
[07:17] <mungallo> free as in speech not beer.
[07:17] <pip> dsas, Ok,I see ; )
[07:18] <ubuntu> hi guys
[07:18] <mungallo> no.... notice the buy it no price is $00.75
[07:18] <ubuntu> !XGL
[07:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:18] <wysiwyg> anyone can help me with my grub problem?
[07:18] <Megaqwerty> no, it is 1.45 Dollars
[07:18] <cliffd> aaah, can someone help. I installed ubuntu yesterday, futzed around with it and mucked it all up getting it how I wanted. then I re installed so I can have a clean install, no kde etc etc. so on the first go round all I had to do was edit /etc/default/bluez-util and enable it with 1, and then do hidd --search and that was it. mouse worked everytime. now after the re install if I leave it for a long period of time or reboot the mouse has to
[07:18] <ubuntu> wysiwyg,  plz ask
[07:18] <wysiwyg> i tryied mounting hda2 (the ubuntu active partition), chrooting it, and then grub-install /dev/hda, but it throws "bash: /sbin/grub-install: Input/output error"
[07:18] <mungallo> right
[07:18] <wysiwyg> i have a problem reinstalling grub on my hda from the livecd
[07:19] <mungallo> but considering materials and shipping, thats not bad.
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[07:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:19] <mungallo> people sell distro cd's all the time.
[07:19] <wysiwyg> i didnt install windows
[07:19] <mungallo> they give them away too.
[07:19] <wysiwyg> i moved the ubuntu partition
[07:20] <ubuntu> wysiwyg,  hi
[07:20] <ubuntu> u will have to edit the file
[07:20] <JoseStefan> i wouldn't sell linux CDs, but anyone could come to my house with a blank cd and i'll happily copy it
[07:20] <ViperFox> ok, before I go to all the trouble of rebuilding this machine for the 900th time...is upgrading to x64 going to make enough difference for me to care about when this machine is a dedicated Myth server?
[07:20] <ubuntu> and chk if u got the settings right
[07:20] <ubuntu> whe u r done chrooting
[07:20] <JoseStefan> ...entry fee required (one of: beer, chips, etc)
[07:20] <ubuntu> edit these files to make sure  partition are in order
[07:20] <ubuntu> /etc/fstab
[07:20] <ubuntu> and /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:20] <ubuntu> k?
[07:21] <mungallo> Jose, I agree with you. The point that I was trying to make is that it's not illegal, and dude isn't ripping anyone off.
[07:21] <wysiwyg> ok
[07:21] <aceracer> Viper, quick answer is no
[07:21] <jiger> does anyone know how to enable dma for dvd on startup??
[07:21] <ubuntu> after editing is done, then try reinstalling grub
[07:21] <burhan> !dma > jiger
[07:21] <mungallo> hparm -d
[07:21] <mungallo> hparm -d 1
[07:22] <aceracer> I was runnign 32bit then installed 64 bit and..not much of a differance
[07:22] <mungallo> then drive name.
[07:22] <JoseStefan> anything under us$5 is ok by my book
[07:22] <ViperFox> ok, sounds good, I'll take your word on it...I had the god damn mobo on my myth box die shortly after finishing the install, so hopefully this will take care of my problems...thanks for the help aceracer
[07:22] <upgrdman> what package do i need to install so mplayer can play WMVs?
[07:22] <mungallo> Agreed.
[07:22] <aceracer> no problem
[07:22] <burhan> !codecs > upgrdman
[07:22] <ubuntu> upgrdman,  u need toget w32codec
[07:23] <ubuntu> goto mplayerhq.hu site
[07:23] <aceracer> hey viper, I am going to install myth also on another box, any advice?
[07:23] <maple1> anyone know how I can get paltalk to work under WINE?
[07:23] <wysiwyg> ubuntu /boot/grub/menu.lst is empty :S
[07:23] <ubuntu> and download essiential codec pack from there
[07:23] <ubuntu> wysiwyg,  that is why it aint installing
[07:23] <ubuntu> u will have to add entries
[07:23] <Abst> checking for gcc... gcc
[07:23] <Abst> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:23] <Abst> How would I fix this?
[07:23] <jiger> I have set in /etc/hdparm.conf /dev/hdc{ dma = on } but it is still not working
[07:23] <burhan> maple1: check how well it is supported at http://appdb.winehq.org
[07:23] <upgrdman> ubuntu, there is no deb pkg?
[07:24] <ubuntu> upgrdman,  not that i know off
[07:24] <wysiwyg> check this ubuntu, this showed up when exiting menu.lst
[07:24] <burhan> Abst: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:24] <wysiwyg> /boot/grub/menu.lst: Input/output error
[07:24] <ubuntu> wysiwyg,  http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[07:24] <ubuntu> chk that link
[07:24] <ubuntu> add entries, good luck
[07:25] <aceracer> mungallo, any more advice for the nvidia problem?
[07:25] <mungallo> aceracer: recompile it. if I had to guess, your kernel got upgraded and now the new driver won't work.
[07:26] <aceracer> I've reinstalled it 3-4 times. ...once it finishes I can restart gdm no problem, but on next reboot it tries the old one again..which btw, was never installed in teh first place.
[07:27] <aceracer> all I did was use synaptic to install a specific kernel instead of the generic one
[07:28] <JoseStefan> aceracer, what package did you install, full name?
[07:28] <upgrdman> my ubuntu system is amd64, but i want to use w32codecs with mplayer... can i do that without a chroot? i remember in gentoo all i had to do was install a 3rd party pre-compiled 32bit version of mplayer and it would work with w32codecs
[07:28] <aceracer> then after that I used nvidia's driver from there site installing it. It said it needed the headers and source I think for the kernel since ubuntu doesn't have that installed by default so ..I installed them and created the symlink for linux. then installed the nvidia drivers
[07:28] <aceracer> Which package jose?
[07:29] <JoseStefan> why not use the nvidia drivers on the repositories?
[07:29] <cherubiel> aceracer: tried this? http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/index.html and http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[07:29] <aceracer> I wanted the latest version and the repos don't have it yet
[07:29] <ubuntu> u can do it w/o chroot
[07:29] <mungallo> upgrdman: you need to set a --force-arch<i386> for mplayer to make the codecs work.
[07:29] <burhan> aceracer: why didn't you just read the wiki entry? :)
[07:29] <burhan> !nvidia > aceracer
[07:30] <aceracer> what wiki entry? lol
[07:31] <upgrdman> mungallo: im sorta new to ubuntu, so i use a gui app, synaptic to do my pkg stuff. how do i use that flag on the CLI?
[07:31] <ubuntu> upgrdman,  use apt-get
[07:31] <mungallo> should be sudo apt-get install mplayer --force-arch i386
[07:31] <mungallo> something like that.
[07:31] <ubuntu> nope
[07:31] <ubuntu> mplayer aint there
[07:31] <ubuntu> u will have to download it from there site
[07:32] <cherubiel> mungallo: add the universe repo
[07:32] <ubuntu> manually
[07:32] <cherubiel> it has mplayer
[07:32] <ubuntu> k
[07:32] <upgrdman> i have added the repos needed to get mplayer
[07:32] <mungallo> erm..
[07:32] <mungallo> I have all the repos cherubiel. thanks though.
[07:33] <cherubiel> are you not seeing mplayer with apt-cache search mplayer? with the universe repo mungallo  ?
[07:33] <mungallo> cherubiel: I was advising upgrdman, I've been through the process before.
[07:33] <tomasz27> what is the command to install mplayer from terminal?
[07:34] <cherubiel> mungallo: oops, my mistake :P
[07:34] <devhen> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[07:34] <tomasz27> thx
[07:34] <Healot> !apt
[07:34] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:34] <mickskyvitch> just got this  trying to start kubuntu session 'cannot start kstartupconfig' any help please?
[07:35] <mungallo> cannot start? or cannot stat?
[07:35] <mickskyvitch> start
[07:36] <mungallo> hrmm.
[07:36] <fernando> simple question, i have alredy installed ubuntu using x86 version for an amd 32b .... is it rigth i mean .... is x86 exclusive for intel processors?
[07:36] <upgrdman> mungallo: Command line option --force-arch is not understood
[07:36] <mickskyvitch> nope works fine for amd too
[07:37] <mickskyvitch> google is giving me plenty of refs to cannot start 'kstartupconfig' but no answer yet
[07:37] <burhan> fernando: no, its not exclusive for intel, it works on all non-64 bit processors.
[07:38] <mungallo> upgrdman: its actually dpkg, not apt.
[07:38] <mungallo> !dpkg
[07:38] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[07:38] <upgrdman> sudo dpkg install mplayer --force-arch i386 ... does not work either
[07:38] <mungallo> dpkg -i <pkgname> --force-architecture-i386
[07:38] <upgrdman> ok thx
[07:38] <fernando> next question, i have already confgured /etc/network/interface with an static ip .... but then i have already reboot the machine and the machine and even when the archive has the same data, it does nt connect anymore to the  gateway
[07:38] <aceracer> burhan, that link doesn't really work for me. I didn't install the nvidia-glx drivers from repository. I installed the ones from nvidia site and installed it with thier command. It builds the modules for me and sets everything up.
[07:39] <ubuntu> upgrdman,  just get from the site like i said dude
[07:39] <ubuntu> or try kmplayer
[07:39] <ubuntu> synaptic has it
[07:39] <burhan> aceracer: there is a section on that page that talks about installing the binary drivers from nvidia.com -- anyway, what's the problem you are facing?
[07:39] <aceracer> would depmod fix my issue though?
[07:39] <ubuntu> apt-get install kmplayer
[07:39] <upgrdman> i dont like kde and i dont like doing things outside of the pkg mgmt sys
[07:39] <ubuntu> upgrdman,  try that
[07:40] <_w^x_> where do I change the default program used to open .mp3
[07:40] <_w^x_> ?
[07:40] <upgrdman> mungallo: it complains too "cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[07:40] <aceracer> the problem is when I reboot, the kernel tries to install a very old nvidia driver then teh ones I installed. Then I have to run the nvidia installer again to update it, then restart gdm and all is good until I reboot again
[07:41] <ubuntu> !jre
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <Flannel> !java
[07:41] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:41] <ubuntu> Flannel,  ty
[07:41] <sktx> _w^x_: open up nautilus (the file browser) and find an mp3.   right click it, and open up "properties" ... go to the Open With... tab and change it there.
[07:41] <aceracer> burhan, ya I am reading that page now but it only talkes about drivers installed by using synaptic. The latest version of nvidia is NOT in synaptic yet
[07:42] <_w^x_> kool
[07:42] <wysiwyg> thx ubuntu
[07:42] <wysiwyg> cya
[07:42] <ubuntu> cya
[07:45] <_w^x_> sktx, im used to just editing config files so, I'm not used to all this GUI stuff yet
[07:45] <mungallo> upgrdman: you need the .deb you i386 first.
[07:46] <ubuntu> any1 using kdm here
[07:46] <mungallo> *for
[07:46] <ubuntu> i got a ?
[07:46] <ubuntu> how do i enable autologin for kdm?
[07:46] <_w^x_> I need to lower the latency of my kernel so I can run ardour, jackd etc..
[07:46] <ubuntu> i know the GUI way
[07:46] <ubuntu> i need the cli mode
[07:47] <sktx>  _w^x_: yeah i dig... i'm the same way... but the gui is starting to become more familiar to me though
[07:47] <_w^x_> why does ubuntu not provide realtime patch?
[07:47] <burhan> aceracer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[07:47] <sktx> i'm a lot quicker on the keys than i am the mouse, and the cli is generally just the quickest way to get things done
[07:47] <upgrdman> mungallo: ok. how do i get it. im sorry... im new to ubuntu/deb ... im used to gentoo'
[07:47] <devhen> what if i dont want all my drives on the desktop as shortcuts?
[07:48] <sktx> but it never hurts to know 3 or 4 different ways to accomplish the same end
[07:48] <ubuntu> upgrdman,  man gentoo is much more complicated then ubuntu
[07:48] <mungallo> upgrdman: no worries.
[07:48] <mungallo> mot really, just different.
[07:48] <ubuntu> lol
[07:48] <ubuntu> i lost partition installing it
[07:48] <ubuntu> heh
[07:48] <ubuntu> :D
[07:48] <unme> hey guys anybody can help me out for bluetooth dialup for gprs
[07:48] <teethdood> is there a wifi preferred network configuration list? I live in 2 places and need to have ubuntu automatically connect to my networks without me having to go to network-manager
[07:49] <ubuntu> teethdood,  kwifimanager
[07:49] <mungallo> upgrdman: google mplayer.deb, you should get something.
[07:49] <upgrdman> ubuntu, i know. im just saying im not used to this new system. i switched to ubuntu to keep things cleaner. its easier to mess up in gentoo, and install things outside of emerge and end up breaking stuff or getting weird errors later on
[07:49] <burhan> teethdood: you can use the profile feature.
[07:49] <ubuntu> upgrdman,  i understand sir
[07:50] <linux__alien> has anyone installed a chat server in Ubuntu?
[07:50] <SkyNeT> i need some help with ubuntu
[07:50] <ubuntu> Skygge,  pls ask
[07:50] <mungallo> ubuntu: I've tossed plenty of partitions away on different distros, I know the feeling.
[07:50] <linux__alien> Does anyone know how to install a Jabber server and configure it ?
[07:50] <ubuntu> SkyNeT,  pls ask
[07:50] <teethdood> I'll try kwifimanager, but burhan, how do I use the profile feature? man page?
[07:50] <mungallo> alien have you tried apt?
[07:50] <burhan> teethdood: are you on gnome or kde?
[07:50] <teethdood> gnome
[07:50] <SkyNeT> i download the live cd and would like to have windows / ubuntu on one hard drive my hard drive is fat32
[07:50] <SkyNeT> right now with 1 partition and has xp on it right now
[07:51] <burhan> system > administration > networking -- the top drop down is the profiles thing.
[07:51] <ubuntu> SkyNeT,  sure u can do it, make sure u install windows first
[07:51] <chris86wm_> everytime I shutdown I get "unregister_netdevice: waiting for eth1 to become free. Usage count = 1" . this keeps scrolling and I have to manually turn the laptop off using the power button. can anyone help me?
[07:51] <chris86wm_> more info here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243344
[07:51] <SkyNeT> yes windows xp is on the hard drive
[07:51] <SkyNeT> right now
[07:51] <SkyNeT> the live cd is in the computer
[07:51] <JoseStefan> just boot up the live cd, and follow the simple instructions
[07:51] <SkyNeT> i start it up in windows xp
[07:51] <burhan> SkyNeT: then just start the installation process, ubuntu will configure itself so you can dual boot.
[07:51] <mungallo> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/jabber
[07:52] <burhan> SkyNeT: reboot the computer, and make sure it boots from the cdrom, not the hard disk.
[07:52] <linux__alien> mungallo, yes i know to install it but i get lost when i configure it
[07:52] <burhan> mungallo: what do you plan to do with jabber, just a chat server?
[07:52] <SkyNeT> yes i no how to do that then what ?
[07:52] <linux__alien> mungallo, could you tell me  a server which is easily to configure ?
[07:52] <mungallo> not me, alien
[07:52] <linux__alien> so that i can test my client
[07:52] <linux__alien> :-)
[07:52] <teethdood> burhan, that's the network manager thing which I'd still have to manually go in and select the ESSID
[07:52] <mungallo> so you have it installed?
[07:52] <burhan> SkyNeT: then, when its done booting, you'll see an icon on your new desktop for installation, click that to start the installer.
[07:53] <chris86wm_> any help
[07:53] <mungallo> http://linuxgazette.net/112/tomar.html
[07:53] <teethdood> I'm looking for something that would go down a list of ESSID and select an available one automatically
[07:53] <linux__alien> mungallo, before installation itself is there a server that i can install thats easy to configure any suggestions?
[07:53] <ubuntu> hi chris86wm
[07:53] <SkyNeT> that when live cd ubuntu load up right on live cd
[07:53] <SkyNeT> that installer icon your talking about
[07:53] <mungallo> never set up a jabber server.
[07:53] <chris86wm_> hey
[07:54] <ubuntu> chris try this before shutting down system
[07:54] <mungallo> but the client is built into gaim IIRC.
[07:54] <chris86wm_> ok
[07:54] <ubuntu> chris86wm,   /etc/init.d/networking stop
[07:54] <Byan> how would I install Bitlbee on ubuntu?
[07:54] <ubuntu> then poweroff
[07:54] <unme> hey anybody help me how to configure my bluetooth dialup through gprs
[07:54] <chris86wm_> ubuntu, will power off, be right back
[07:55] <ubuntu> chris86wm,  run that command as root
[07:55] <ubuntu> k
[07:55] <chris86wm_> kk, thanks
[07:55] <unme> help
[07:55] <burhan> linux__alien: is this the first time you are trying to install jabber?
[07:55] <SkyNeT> ubuntu is it hard to set up and install right with out
[07:55] <SkyNeT> lose windows xp
[07:56] <ubuntu> well first try partitioning the c drive
[07:56] <burhan> SkyNeT: no, it will detect windows xp, make some room on the disk, install itself, and then configure the system for dual boot.
[07:56] <linux__alien> burhan, i installed a jabber server but couldnt configure it and couldnt test my client :-(
[07:56] <SkyNeT> where do i partition it ?
[07:56] <ubuntu> make some space for ubuntu linux
[07:56] <ubuntu> how much space u got on c?
[07:56] <SkyNeT> 40GB
[07:56] <burhan> linux__alien: perhaps it would be easier for you to go with a pre-packaged server? Something like Wildfire ( http://www.jivesoftware.org )
[07:56] <aceracer> ahh think the problme is nvidia-kernel-common but it removes linux-amd64-k8-smp???
[07:56] <unme> anybody pls help me out to configure bluetooth dialup for gprs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:56] <ubuntu> defragment the partition
[07:56] <burhan> SkyNeT: the installer will help you partition it.
[07:57] <burhan> !repeat > unme
[07:57] <ubuntu> use a partitioning to reisee it , keep 10 for linux rest for windows
[07:57] <SkyNeT> will just don;t want to mess up
[07:57] <linux__alien> burhan, Does it use the jabber protocol?
[07:57] <SkyNeT> have work on this computer
[07:57] <SkyNeT> and if i over right it
[07:57] <upgrdman> hum, im starting to think i would prefer to compile mplayer by hand... is there a directory set aside for installing custom builds in ubuntu?
[07:57] <SkyNeT> and lose it am in deep shit
[07:57] <burhan> linux__alien: of course :)
[07:57] <unme> for bluetooth dialup
[07:57] <linux__alien> burhan, will that involve lot of configuration stuff ?
[07:57] <unme> to enter gprs
[07:58] <linux__alien> burhan, i get lost in the configuration stuff alone :-(
[07:58] <ubuntu> SkyNeT,  i know the feeling, been there
[07:58] <ubuntu> :)
[07:58] <SkyNeT> lolz
[07:58] <burhan> linux__alien: its pretty much already setup -- comes with a gui and a web-based management tool that you can use to setup users, rooms, conferences, etc.
[07:58] <aceracer> burhan, if I remove linux-amd64-k8-smp won't that leave me unbootable?
[07:58] <burhan> linux__alien: browse the site to find out more.
[07:58] <chris86wm> ubuntu, didnt work
[07:58] <chris86wm> network stopped though
[07:58] <burhan> aceracer: why would you want to remove that?
[07:58] <ubuntu> chris86wm,  k
[07:58] <ubuntu> u still get eth1 error?
[07:58] <chris86wm> yes
[07:59] <aceracer> I don't, but the post says to remove nvidia-kernel-common which linux-amd64-k8-smp is dependant on
[07:59] <chris86wm> thought it was a kernel problem but I have tried an older kernel with the same result
[07:59] <ubuntu> whats the full error message again plz?
[07:59] <chris86wm> one second
[07:59] <mungallo> aceracer: k8 driver for k8 kernel
[07:59] <aceracer> what do you mean mungallo?
[07:59] <burhan> aceracer: oh no, that won't bother it too much.
[07:59] <unme> help pls
[07:59] <chris86wm> unregister_netdevice: waiting for eth1 to become free. Usage count = 1
[07:59] <erdrick> every time i try to mount my second harddrive it keeps telling me wrong fs type
[08:00] <CWhiz> Hi, I'm trying to support outgoing mail from PHP and cron on a server install.  I don't need any incoming mail, just something that can accept mail on the server and send it to my ISP's SMTP server.  My research has led me to ssmtp and esmtp.  Can somebody point out the differences between the two and possibly make a recommendation as to which I should use?  (I'll also happily take other suggestions.)  Thanks :)
[08:00] <ubuntu> SkyNeT,  ubuntu cd has resize tool to , u an use that too
[08:00] <chris86wm> this scrolls down the screen continually and the computer doesnt shutdown
[08:00] <mungallo> I mean that if you have a 64 bit kernel you need a 64 bit vid driver.
[08:00] <aceracer> burham, what won't? nvidia-kernel-common or linux-amd64-k8-smp?
[08:00] <ubuntu> chris86wm,  run ifconfig
[08:00] <mungallo> because it builds a kernel module.
[08:00] <ubuntu> see anything named eth1 there?
[08:00] <chris86wm> yeah, its my wireless card
[08:00] <burhan> aceracer: if you un-install nvidia-kernel-common, it won't leave you with an unbootable machine.
[08:00] <chris86wm> ipw2200
[08:00] <ubuntu> k ur on wifi
[08:00] <aceracer> ya mungallo, I know, thats not the problem, the problem is it installs fine, but when I reboot it is trying to install an old nvidia driver instead
[08:01] <chris86wm> worked fine with breezy
[08:01] <aceracer> Using Synaptic or Apt, uninstall nvidia-glx, nvidia-settings, and nvidia-kernel-common packages. These will cause the dreaded "version mismatch" X error.
[08:01] <mungallo> tries to install? or loads an old one?
[08:01] <burhan> aceracer: yes, uninstall them. Do as it says.
[08:01] <ubuntu> k try this
[08:01] <aceracer> I am having the "dreaded version mismatch"
[08:02] <mungallo> apt-get upgrade
[08:02] <chris86wm> k
[08:02] <aceracer> loads an old one, sorry
[08:02] <ubuntu> ifconfig eth1 down
[08:02] <ubuntu> then power off
[08:02] <chris86wm> brb then
[08:02] <aceracer> upgrade does nothing
[08:02] <mungallo> aceracer: update/upgrade the whole works, then rebuild the kernel module.
[08:03] <mungallo> which version of GCC are you using?
[08:03] <burhan> aceracer: look -- don't confuse directions.
[08:03] <axisys> i finally got aiglx / compiz working on my laptop with intel driver
[08:03] <axisys> eehaa
[08:03] <ubuntu> awesome
[08:03] <ubuntu> congrats
[08:03] <aceracer> lol, ok, as i have said, I have done this...ohh, about 4-5 times now. Once complete, it works fine until reboot at which time, the kernel tries to load an old driver again.
[08:04] <ubuntu> i need to do that too
[08:04] <burhan> aceracer: you need to remove those packages, because they provide the kernel module 'nvidia'. This is the same one you'll be getting with the drivers from nvidia.com, which is why they ask you to remove these packages, otherwise the installer won't work.
[08:04] <unme> anybody pls help me out to configure bluetooth dialup for gprs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:04] <linux__alien> burhan, i am using automake 1.7 and when i do a make there is a check happening. if G++ . can you please tell me why this happens and how i can resolve this
[08:05] <axisys> ubuntu: i followed the topic url of aiglx of #ubuntu-xgl and then step 1 of http://wiki.compiz.net/index.php/Aiglx/compiz_on_an_Intel_i915_video_card
[08:05] <ubuntu> axisys,  how did u go about it?
[08:05] <burhan> linux__alien: what are you trying to compile/build?
[08:05] <ubuntu> aah ty
[08:05] <axisys> then restarted the laptop twice
[08:05] <axisys> thats it
[08:05] <chris86wm> ubuntu, that seemed to do it, but this error seems to come and go
[08:05] <SkyNeT> ok will ubuntu can you give me any thing to look for will install it so i do it right
[08:05] <chris86wm> maybe it worked
[08:05] <SkyNeT> lolz
[08:05] <SkyNeT> and not lose windows xp
[08:05] <SkyNeT> lolz
[08:05] <aceracer> right, my main concern is the fact is also says it has to remove linux-amd64-k8-smp which I thought was my kernel. if it's removed, I won't be able to boot my kernel??
[08:06] <chris86wm> anyway I could add that to a shutdown script?
[08:06] <linux__alien> burhan, My C++ Code
[08:06] <ubuntu> chris86wm,  ur device is busy, u have to shut it manually first
[08:06] <ubuntu> first shut off netconnection
[08:06] <ubuntu> then poweroff
[08:06] <burhan> linux__alien: hrmm, have you install gcc and build-essential?
[08:06] <chris86wm> could I add that to the shutdown script so I wouldnt have to do that manually every time?
[08:07] <chris86wm> that would get annoying
[08:07] <linux__alien> burhan, this is what happens if g++ -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"project-bytecodeinterpreter\ \" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"
[08:07] <ubuntu> yes u can make ascript of ur own :D
[08:07] <linux__alien> i dont know why this check is being performed...
[08:07] <chris86wm> thanks for the help
[08:07] <ubuntu> yw
[08:08] <linux__alien> burhan, yes i ve installed build-essential
[08:08] <aceracer> Well, I rmeoved it all, so I'll reinstall nvidia and hope I can still boot back in lol.
[08:08] <unme> anybody pls help me out to configure bluetooth dialup for gprs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:08] <SkyNeT> ok one more thing be for i go
[08:09] <ubuntu> Skygge,  Plz BACKUP
[08:09] <linux__alien> burhan, i ve installed gcc too
[08:09] <unme> anybody pls help me out to configure bluetooth dialup for gprs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:09] <SkyNeT> what do people us for chatting on this if they not using mIRC
[08:09] <SkyNeT> will they can;t us mIRC on lunix but
[08:09] <chris86wm> know where the shutdown script is located?
[08:09] <mungallo> xchat
[08:09] <SkyNeT> what do you us ?
[08:09] <Skygge> what?
[08:09] <mungallo> bitchx
[08:09] <ubuntu> xchat here
[08:09] <SkyNeT> bitchx
[08:09] <mungallo> etc etc
[08:09] <fonz2591> xchat
[08:09] <SkyNeT> xchat
[08:09] <SkyNeT> ok
[08:09] <SkyNeT> is it good
[08:09] <mungallo> not bad.
[08:09] <JoseStefan> xchat is included by default
[08:10] <fonz2591> (im using xchat on windows right now)
[08:10] <Skygge> SkyNeT, what did you wnat?
[08:10] <[apoRt] > yes it very good has good feature what us do with talk out irc
[08:10] <SkyNeT> will going to go try installing ubuntu
[08:10] <SkyNeT> just hope i do it right
[08:10] <SkyNeT> and not lose windows xp
[08:10] <unme> anybody pls help me out to configure bluetooth dialup for gprs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:10] <burhan> !enter
[08:10] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:10] <SkyNeT> if i lose windows xp am die
[08:10] <ubuntu> Skygge,  do this
[08:10] <SkyNeT> lolz
[08:10] <ubuntu> make BACKUPS
[08:11] <mungallo> unme: try google, it's a fairly esoteric process.
[08:11] <burhan> linux__alien: how are you compiling your software? Have you just tried to build it using gcc ?
[08:11] <SkyNeT> see you all in a bit
[08:11] <ubuntu> good luck
[08:11] <linux__alien> burhan, its c++. i did ./configure, make and when i do a make i get this check
[08:11] <mungallo> good luck.
[08:11] <mungallo> join #bluetooth
[08:12] <burhan> you can build c++ with gcc. -- but you should take this to someplace more appropriate, as its not a ubuntu issue.
[08:12] <linux__alien> burhan, it compiles properly but i just want to know what makes this check
[08:14] <burhan> I don't know to be honest :( I don't do much c++ programming on linux. Try your luck at #gcc or #linuxhelp
[08:15] <brendonjt> hi all
[08:15] <fonz2591> hey
[08:16] <brendonjt> hows it all going here
[08:18] <ubuntu> brb
[08:19] <tomasz27> does acidrip work on Windows?
[08:20] <brendonjt> why would you want  to use windows
[08:20] <Kragnerac> heh
[08:21] <tomasz27> so i can have 2 DVDs ripped  @ the same time. I need Windows on the laptop for work appz
[08:21] <DigitalNinja> I've got an IPod Nano I would like to connect to my Ubuntu box
[08:21] <tomasz27> use amaroK
[08:21] <DigitalNinja> It's in HFS+ format
[08:22] <DigitalNinja> I'm not sure if I should format etc... or try to mount it read write using HFS+
[08:22] <brendonjt> umm ur ipod needs to be fat32  format  to work with linux apps
[08:22] <iyank4> hellow all, how to move every user mailbox from my old mandrake server using sendmail to the new one. i want to use postfix, any other suggestion???
[08:22] <DigitalNinja> Well, I can mount the IPod and banshee can see it
[08:22] <richiefrich> DigitalNinja it's in HFS+ are you sure
[08:22] <DigitalNinja> richiefrich: Yup!
[08:23] <richiefrich> may i ask how do you know ?
[08:23] <richiefrich> from what test ?
[08:23] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  ok  i didn't think much of basnshee  try gtkpod  it works wonders  and  works great with ipods
[08:23] <DigitalNinja> I looked at /etc/mtab
[08:23] <richiefrich> the ipods i have seen are fat32
[08:23] <omnid> Unbuntu doesn't need reserved space at the start of the hard disk does it?
[08:23] <eXistenZ> omnid, there is mbr
[08:23] <omnid> ?
[08:23] <DigitalNinja> brendonjt: banshee should work. I just need to mount the IPod read write
[08:24] <DigitalNinja> richiefrich: In my search for a fix I found out that there are two kinds of IPods. Windows and Mac
[08:24] <mkquist> anyone help w/unmet dependencies?
[08:24] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  i couldn't do it with  my g4 ipod photo,  it kept crashing,  but i used  gtkpod and would never look back
[08:24] <richiefrich> so you got the mac one
[08:25] <richiefrich> i agree with brendonjt
[08:25] <DigitalNinja> brendonjt: How do I mount the IPod read write? Or should I format it fat32?
[08:25] <DigitalNinja> vfat
[08:26] <richiefrich> DigitalNinja imo if your going to format it why not jjust put rockbox on it
[08:26] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  the mac one hfs+ formated and the windows is fat32, with the ipod software on a windows machine will format it fat32
[08:27] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  format it and use gtk pod,  rockbox  is power hungry  i found
[08:27] <richiefrich> you think
[08:27] <richiefrich> i love it
[08:27] <DigitalNinja> What is rockbox
[08:28] <brendonjt> richiefrich: it kept  crashing and the likes  it was horrible.
[08:28] <DigitalNinja> Also, if I fromat it will I loos the OS that's on the IPod
[08:28] <richiefrich> then you might have had hardware issues
[08:28] <richiefrich> i love it
[08:28] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  rockbox is a simple linux replacment firmware on the ipod
[08:28] <richiefrich> DigitalNinja well if you ise rockbox it's linux on it then
[08:29] <richiefrich> theres alot of mods
[08:29] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  nope  it recreates the files system and the likes
[08:29] <richiefrich> http://www.rockbox.org/
[08:29] <DigitalNinja> let me take a look at rockbox.org
[08:29] <DigitalNinja> be back
[08:29] <brendonjt> richiefrich: and a lot of mucking around to,  imho  not worth the trouble
[08:30] <richiefrich> brendonjt no trouble here
[08:30] <richiefrich> i even have a nice howto
[08:31] <brendonjt> richiefrich: on mine it would lock  up every 3rd song i tried taking the config right down to the minum  still no luck
[08:31] <brendonjt> richiefrich: wouldn't go back to it
[08:31] <ubuntu_> back
[08:32] <brendonjt> wb ubuntu
[08:32] <richiefrich> DigitalNinja  http://penguinslair.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25
[08:32] <ubuntu_> brendonjt,  thanks
[08:32] <ubuntu_> so no1 use kdm here?
[08:33] <brendonjt> ubuntu_:  not me sorry
[08:33] <BeepAU> what program should i use to make a copy of a dvd?
[08:33] <ubuntu_> !autologin
[08:33] <ubuntu_> k
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autologin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <brendonjt> beepau:  k3b  is good
[08:34] <someusernoob> !ubotu
[08:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:34] <someusernoob> !brain
[08:34] <richiefrich> BeepAU  all you need to know --> http://penguinslair.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3
[08:35] <valehru> Hey guys, im trying to compile an application.  I was told to use cgcc but I can't find it in apt.....any suggestions are welcome
[08:36] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- i see 'cdrecord -v dev=<your device> speed=<burning speed> -isosize /dev/cdrom ; eject', but i'm still confused.
[08:36] <richiefrich> BeepAU whats confussing
[08:36] <holymoo> valehru, its gcc, not cgcc
[08:36] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- what do i replace with what?
[08:36] <richiefrich> valehru  build-essentials
[08:36] <valehru> richiefrich, thx
[08:36] <richiefrich> np
[08:37] <richiefrich> whats you cd?
[08:37] <richiefrich> or dvd ?
[08:37] <richiefrich>  /dev/hd?
[08:37] <richiefrich>  /dev/hda b c d ?
[08:37] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- i'm trying to burn a dvd using a external dvd burner
[08:37] <richiefrich> BeepAU then it's  /dev/sd?
[08:38] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- i don't know what it is, what's the command to list?
[08:38] <richiefrich> BeepAU is it plugged in
[08:38] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- yep
[08:38] <valehru> richiefrich, already installed....still can't seem to find cgcc
[08:38] <richiefrich> dmesg | grep sd
[08:38] <richiefrich> valehru gcc
[08:38] <brendonjt> richiefrich: are showing him a command line way of burning a dvd?
[08:38] <richiefrich> brendonjt yup
[08:39] <brendonjt> richiefrich: wouldn't k3b  be easier?
[08:39] <richiefrich> brendonjt i dont think so
[08:39] <richiefrich> i can burn in half the time
[08:39] <richiefrich> brendonjt i dont like gui's
[08:39] <valehru> richiefrich, hmm must have been a typo in the book...strange. thanks
[08:39] <richiefrich> valehru np
[08:40] <brendonjt> richiefrich: ok cool,  i could learn  alot from you
[08:40] <richiefrich> brendonjt talk a look at that page.. everything you need on burning http://penguinslair.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3
[08:40] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22307
[08:40] <richiefrich> brendonjt and mp3 to wav
[08:41] <richiefrich> BeepAU look like sda
[08:41] <richiefrich> BeepAU so are you trying a iso ?
[08:41] <richiefrich> or what
[08:41] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- no, i'm trying to copy a dvd.
[08:41] <brendonjt> richiefrich: i jusat find that gui  is good esp  when teaching people who don't like using a command line
[08:41] <richiefrich> BeepAU so you need to rip it 1st
[08:42] <godtvisk1n> heey duduedse
[08:42] <richiefrich> brendonjt but you dont see whats going on ..
[08:42] <godtvisk1n> imm tripping ohsnthu
[08:42] <godtvisk1n> my head is a ballooonnnnn
[08:42] <richiefrich> brendonjt  or if it fails you will have no clue why
[08:42] <richiefrich> BeepAU you need to rip it 1st
[08:43] <richiefrich> BeepAU  dd if=/dev/sda of=foo.iso
[08:43] <brendonjt> richiefrich: true, but some times it can be harder to do it,  but i perfer to use terminal  to install and to do alot of tasks
[08:43] <Abst> llo
[08:43] <richiefrich> brendonjt then you are like me.. in a way
[08:43] <richiefrich> brendonjt and also things like mencoder will never have a gui to make options
[08:43] <richiefrich> brendonjt but thats encoding
[08:44] <flake> would the vmplayer for linux run windowsxp w/ dx9.0c?
[08:44] <richiefrich> BeepAU when made to iso
[08:44] <flake> vmware
[08:44] <richiefrich> BeepAU  growisofs -Z /dev/sda=foo.iso
[08:44] <richiefrich> to burn
[08:44] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- ok, thanks. i entered 'sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=godfather.iso' is that right?
[08:45] <richiefrich> BeepAU yes
[08:45] <richiefrich> BeepAU now if it has that new copy protection on it
[08:45] <richiefrich> dd wont finish
[08:45] <richiefrich> u need wine
[08:45] <richiefrich> and 3 windows apps
[08:46] <kevinG> does easytag for debian work on ubuntu?
[08:48] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- when i tried to burn, it told me ':-( not an MMC unit!'
[08:48] <richiefrich> BeepAU  http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=56078  <-- if it has  ARccOS
[08:48] <richiefrich> you need to follow that
[08:48] <Madpilot> kevinG, um, easytag is in Ubuntu's repos, and it works fine.
[08:48] <Madpilot> !info easytag
[08:48] <richiefrich> as i said  "wine"
[08:48] <ubotu> easytag: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.99.11-1 (dapper), package size 761 kB, installed size 2396 kB
[08:48] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- could i do this in k3b?
[08:49] <kevinG> oh =X
[08:49] <richiefrich> BeepAU not if it has ARccOS
[08:49] <Madpilot> kevinG, do you have the Universe & Multiverse repos enabled?
[08:49] <richiefrich> you need 3 windows apps
[08:49] <kevinG> i don't think so
[08:49] <BeepAU> richiefrich -- ahh, well. i'm gonna try this in my windows partition. thanks for your help.
[08:50] <kevinG> no, i don't
[08:50] <kevinG> i suppose i'll enable them, then
[08:50] <upgrdman> whats the comman for the x configuration wizard?
[08:50] <someusernoob> !ubotu
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[08:50] <upgrdman> command*
[08:50] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell kevinG about universe
[08:50] <someusernoob> !brain
[08:51] <someusernoob> !linux
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[08:51] <someusernoob> !brain
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[08:52] <kevinG> should I enable them all?
[08:52] <nikin> kevinG: yes
[08:52] <kevinG> ok then
[08:52] <Madpilot> kevinG, all the repos? Depends on whether you need the source repos or not
[08:52] <DigitalNinja> is there other firmware for the IPod besides rockbox
[08:52] <kevinG> probably not...but if i'm going for one, i might as well get the others
[08:53] <kevinG> there is linux on ipod, i believe
[08:53] <brendonjt> podzilla
[08:53] <kevinG> yeah, that's it
[08:53] <DigitalNinja> podzilla
[08:53] <DigitalNinja> is it any good
[08:53] <kevinG> i haven't tried it
[08:55] <brendonjt> neither have i  \
[08:55] <kevinG> i don't really care for rockbox, though
[08:55] <kevinG> i just like the expanded EQ
[08:56] <upgrdman_> how do i fix my screen res. i forgot how i did it earlier. it limits me to 1024x768, even tho i have my xorg.conf at 1280x10254
[08:56] <upgrdman_> *1280x1024
[08:57] <flake> is it LCD or monitor?
[08:57] <flake> think you have to change the hardware
[08:57] <flake> setting
[08:57] <kevinG> is anybody using gaim-rhythmbox?
[08:57] <upgrdman_> where do i go to pic ubotu's brain
[08:57] <upgrdman_> !brain ?
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[08:59] <Madpilot> !fixres
[08:59] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:00] <kevinG> why is gcc not being detetcted?
[09:00] <richard> how do i determine what driver my wireless USB is using?
[09:00] <Madpilot> kevinG, have you installed build-essential?
[09:00] <kevinG> well, if it didn't install with the CD and updates, then no
[09:01] <richard> im trying to install wireless windows drivers with that nsdwrapper thing
[09:01] <Madpilot> kevinG, install that, then - Ubuntu doesn't bother installing all that compiling stuff by default
[09:01] <kevinG> ok then
[09:05] <tomasz27> good night ALL
[09:05] <brendonjt> night
[09:05] <Abst> night
[09:08] <kevinG> where can i find where the programs that are installed with are located?
[09:08] <richard> [17179607.984000]  rausb0 (WE) : Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, ple ase fix driver !
[09:08] <richard> I looked at wireless file ....... its blank!
[09:09] <richard> so how do i get around this ..... blacklist "wireless" blank file?
[09:10] <Krangerac> Hello, Is there any way to bump up the framerate of VNC?
[09:11] <srh11> yea
[09:11] <srh11> try using this command and it might configure it somewhere along the wizard
[09:11] <srh11> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:13] <EmxBA> hi guys
[09:13] <janbanan> Is it possible to get an extended desktop instead of a clone. My second screen is my TV
[09:13] <EmxBA> how can i make my bootsplash (thatis, usplash) be 1024x768? zenwalk, mandriva,gentoo and fedora can do that :P
[09:14] <kevinG> go back to zenwalk, mandriva, gentoo and fedora, then! >:O
[09:14] <kevinG> jk
[09:14] <EmxBA> i'm here 'cause i don't want that, kevinG
[09:14] <EmxBA> :)
[09:15] <kevinG> i like ubuntu...who's with me?!
[09:15] <ryancr>  i have just installed edgy knot2, and fired up xgl, but it seems to keep killing my gtk theme, it gets reset to the stock gtk theme
[09:15] <ryancr> any ideas?
[09:15] <kevinG> xgl just gives crazy 3D effects, right?
[09:16] <EmxBA> kevinG: everyone in here.
[09:16] <ryancr> yes
[09:16] <brendonjt> kevinG :  ubuntu rocks
[09:16] <EmxBA> kevinG: i can make a screenshot for you
[09:16] <kevinG> i believe i've seen one already
[09:16] <EmxBA> not all people think that ubuntu rocks
[09:16] <kevinG> is it only that cube thing?
[09:16] <DigitalNinja> Is there something cool I get by installing Rockbox
[09:16] <EmxBA> look at the
[09:16] <EmxBA> http://qdb.us/65622
[09:16] <kevinG> the only thing i've found useful in rockbox is the EQ
[09:17] <kevinG> but it gives lower battery life compared to the apple firmware
[09:17] <gary4gar> pls help me out guys, tvtime is not running!
[09:17] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  nope
[09:17] <gary4gar> check this pls
[09:17] <gary4gar> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=492126
[09:17] <sktx> gary4gar: tv is bad for your brain.
[09:17] <sktx> :D
[09:17] <sktx> sorry, had to say it.
[09:17] <axxsa> omfg... www.groomgle.com just released a public gmail hack, lets you easily manipulate you're google page rank... who should i contact???
[09:18] <DigitalNinja> brendonjt: I see
[09:18] <gary4gar> sktx, well pls check out my post on neowin
[09:18] <gary4gar> and help me
[09:18] <kevinG> hmm...people bash on ubuntu for being simple, that's all
[09:19] <EmxBA> kevinG: can you help me with usplash?
[09:19] <kevinG> the fact is that it's only simple if you want it to be simple...you can still do everything the hard way, i suppose
[09:19] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  yip  and ur battery  will be used in notime flat
[09:19] <gary4gar> is anyone checked that thread??
[09:19] <kevinG> EmxBA: probably not...i'm a noob
[09:19] <gary4gar> for me it seems like a driver problem
[09:19] <EmxBA> kevinG: ah, LOL
[09:20] <gary4gar> not correvt drivers are installed
[09:20] <kevinG> but I am taking a linux class right now...so get back at me in about a  month and we'll have a talk!
[09:21] <tjb> Is there a way of appllying my /etc/X11/xorg.config changes without restarting?
[09:21] <DigitalNinja> ok
[09:21] <DigitalNinja> I'm going to fromat the IPod and put fat32 on it
[09:21] <brendonjt> tjb  restart gdm
[09:21] <EmxBA> kevinG: cool ;)
[09:21] <kevinG> I tried installing my nvidia drivers by hand, but each time it was a horrible mess
[09:21] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  cool and what linux app you going to use
[09:22] <tjb> brendonjt: Could I ask what to type to do that?
[09:22] <kevinG> installing them using Easyubuntu is how I did it...every time I tried to configure the xorg.conf file something broke
[09:22] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  make sure u use windows to do it and use the ipod updater  to do that
[09:22] <brendonjt> tjb  umm i tihnk it is sudo restart /gdm  but don't quote me on that
[09:23] <brendonjt> !gdm restart
[09:23] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[09:23] <DigitalNinja> brendonjt: I'm doing it all on Linux
[09:23] <Flannel> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:23] <Jobberwacky> tjb, ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:24] <kevinG> don't be surprised if x server fails to start, though
[09:24] <kevinG> that's what happened to me a few times :(
[09:24] <brendonjt> DigitalNinja:  um best to do it on a windoes machine as the software recreates the directory structure and the likes which is needed
[09:24] <Fenix_NBK_> hi all !
[09:24] <brendonjt> flannel:  thanks for correcting me
[09:25] <Fenix_NBK_> I am looking at a distro with a lor of packages.
[09:25] <Fenix_NBK_> How much packages Ubuntu has?
[09:25] <EmxBA> Fenix_NBK: and you've find ubuntu. :)
[09:25] <EmxBA> in default repos, more than 18k.
[09:25] <raster> Fenix_NBK_: 7
[09:25] <brendonjt> ubuntu   has alot of packages and is easy to use
[09:25] <EmxBA> raster:7? :) LOL
[09:25] <Fenix_NBK_> that is, about the same as Debian?
[09:26] <Fenix_NBK_> or a lot less?
[09:26] <tjb> Anyone know how to restart gdm?  I'm in a bad situation right now -- my mouse sens is too high to use.
[09:26] <EmxBA> Fenix_BNK_: yes
[09:26] <tjb> It's really hard to browse the web to find the answer.
[09:26] <EmxBA> because ubuntu uses debian packages (it is based on debian)
[09:26] <kevinG> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:26] <EmxBA> tjb:ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:27] <brendonjt> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:27] <Fenix_NBK_> thx for info. But where are they? I am looking at ftp mirror here, but founf only the ISOs
[09:27] <EmxBA> that's the easiest
[09:27] <EmxBA> Fenix_NBK_: you mean ubuntu repos? or ubuntu livecd?
[09:27] <Fenix_NBK_> ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/array2/linux/ubuntu-releases/dapper/
[09:27] <Fenix_NBK_> the site above contains the CD images.... but not the packages.
[09:27] <Fenix_NBK_> where can i find the packages?
[09:27] <Flannel> Fenix_NBK_: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <raster> most curious
[09:27] <Fenix_NBK_> thx
[09:28] <raster> edgey uses a live cd boot to install
[09:28] <raster> most curious
[09:28] <mkquist> anyone using photoshop 7 in wine
[09:28] <Flannel> Fenix_NBK_: thats a web-browsable, but the packages are downlaoded via apt, if youre installing them
[09:28] <Fenix_NBK_> yes but the live CD doesnt have the 18000 packages... of course
[09:28] <kevinG> the only drivers i haven't set up yet are my Creative Audigy 2 Zs drivers...and I don't think those are available for linux anywhere
[09:28] <EmxBA> FEnix_NBK: 18k are on net
[09:28] <Flannel> Fenix_NBK_: thats correct, you can still use web repositories for them though
[09:29] <Fenix_NBK_> I feel that it's bad that there is no complete-distro (like Debians's 2 binary x86 DVDs) that has ALL the free stuff.
[09:30] <raster> Fenix_NBK_: thats a lot of work to package that much stuff
[09:30] <raster> and frankly
[09:30] <raster> burning that much to media
[09:30] <fallingdutch> hi all
[09:30] <raster> means the media is signficiantly out of date by the time you ever use a package
[09:30] <EmxBA> hi
[09:30] <raster> so downloading them from a repository is much saner
[09:30] <raster> :)
[09:31] <brendonjt> raster: agree  downloading iso's that big  is painfull
[09:31] <EmxBA> brendonjt: order ubuntu from shipit
[09:31] <kelenius> could anyone help me with resizing ext3 partition?
[09:31] <Fenix_NBK_> Is there any FTP site with the repos?
[09:32] <brendonjt> EmxBA: i do  and have only 2 spear copies one for me and one to give away,
[09:32] <brendonjt> EmxBA: i always order mine
[09:33] <Fenix_NBK_> EmxBA: packages.ubuntu.com looks like HTTP-only site. FTP is better at mass-downloading...
[09:33] <fallingdutch> i got a problem with my graca: when booting the liveCD without any options i get a green border at the top with some black holes in it and the system crashes, when is change vga to 1024x768x16 it works. now after installation i have the same problem but deleting the modes except 1024x768x16 and setting default depth to 16 doesn't do the trick. i got a S3 twister k using savage driver. any ideas what i should do (its a laptop Acer As
[09:33] <fallingdutch> pire 1300)
[09:33] <Fenix_NBK_> I am looking at the possibility to build a full-distro. That is 18k packages on several DVDs.
[09:33] <kelenius> |C:| ||E:| |5GB| |ext3| |swap| |D:| this is how my partition table looks at the moment and I need to merge ext3 with 5GB of empty space
[09:34] <EmxBA> FEnix_NBK_:packages are installed trough apt
[09:34] <EmxBA> downloading them from http or ftp is a lot of time.
[09:34] <Fenix_NBK_> EmxBA: I know, but I like offline OS.
[09:34] <Fenix_NBK_> at least later, I want offline OS.
[09:35] <Fenix_NBK_> maybe I will start with online repos.
[09:35] <xhaan> build it online then unplug it? :p
[09:35] <Fenix_NBK_> the Internet is unstable animal, I don't want to stop learning after it gets down.
[09:35] <raster> brendonjt: well its not that bad - takes a few minutes. it just is a waste of media.
[09:35] <Terminus> Fenix_NBK_: that'd be something like debian, with it's 14 cds.
[09:35] <fallingdutch> Fenix_NBK_, why dont you add a proxy-server between your ubuntu box and your internet connection that stores all the packages that you already downloaded?
[09:35] <raster> brendonjt: well its not painful when your dsl is 100mbit. :)
[09:35] <EmxBA> my is 1 mbit :)
[09:36] <raster> EmxBA: ouch
[09:36] <raster> downloading a dvd iso would.... take a while
[09:36] <Fenix_NBK_> because lol - I can store it all on my PC. it has both DVD burner *and* 200 GB HDD.
[09:36] <brendonjt> raster: new Zealand is still at adsl 7mbit  that is the fatest
[09:36] <mkquist> no wine users?
[09:36] <raster> brendonjt: and u have download limits - right?
[09:36] <Fenix_NBK_> so storing 15 GB of packages is possible.
[09:37] <brendonjt> raster: yip once we reach our caps  we are droped back to dialup speeds
[09:37] <EmxBA> raster: ah, i just have notebook :P, 2.8 ghz celeron 128 kb cache, 256 MB RAM, 3 GB disk, dsl 1 mbit with 3 GB month limit :)
[09:38] <kevinG> where can i find the installation files of programs that were installed from the CD?
[09:38] <brendonjt> Fenix_nbk_: i would never download a distro  that was 15gb in size what a wast of media and time
[09:38] <kevinG> it's better to customize what you want and need rather then get a bunch of bloatware
[09:39] <Fenix_NBK_> brendonjt: no waste of media - only time. I have several DVD+RW lying around. But time is cheap - zero cost.
[09:39] <raster> brendonjt: ouchies!
[09:39] <raster> brendonjt: i knew there was a reason i left .au :)
[09:39] <brendonjt> raster: hehe  i'm .nz
[09:39] <Fenix_NBK_> So after a year or tomorrow, I can reuse the media
[09:39] <raster> EmxBA: you'd blow your download limit fast...
[09:39] <EmxBA> i'm in .ba :) :) :)
[09:40] <raster> brendonjt: i know - but .nz is just .au's seventh state :) hehehehe
[09:40] <fallingdutch> Fenix_NBK_, and loads the server
[09:40] <Fenix_NBK_> That's very bad the NZ put those draconian measures against bandwidth use per month.
[09:40] <gary4gar> !xvedio
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvedio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <brendonjt> raster: our  telecom offer there lowest price is 1gb for $39.95 NZD
[09:40] <raster> brendonjt: but seriously - nz'd intenret scene is not dissimilar to .au's
[09:40] <kevinG> ouch
[09:40] <EmxBA> raster: ah, but we have so-called free zone, where you can download lots of things in ISP's lan and that doesn't count in the limit :P and there are lots of distros, even suse and gentoo mirror
[09:40] <raster> so same story
[09:40] <raster> roughly
[09:40] <EmxBA> we're working on ubuntu mirror :)
[09:40] <gary4gar> !drivers
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <maswan> Fenix_NBK_: hey, it's just that they haven't gotten around to lay any bigger pipes than straws through the ocean
[09:41] <raster> EmxBA: painful - all the stuff u normally want is elsewhere
[09:41] <gary4gar> !how to install drivers
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how to install drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <raster> i guess i'm spoilt with broadband in japan
[09:41] <EmxBA> gary4gar: comeone, google a bit :)
[09:41] <kevinG> how do i add plugins to xchat?
[09:41] <raster> they throw 100mbit at you like its going out of style
[09:41] <raster> no need for a phone line
[09:41] <fallingdutch> can anyone help me with my graca problem? would like to work with X11 on my laptop :-)
[09:41] <raster> i dont have a home phone
[09:42] <Consty> it's worth mentioning if anyone goes to a place that sells networking stuff and they need a pcmcia wireless card that works out of the box for ubuntu.. pick up a D-Link WNA-2330 hardware ver A1, gold box series.. works fantastic.
[09:42] <raster> $40/month gets u 100mbit
[09:42] <raster> voip
[09:42] <Fenix_NBK_> maswan: looks like they need some optical fiber addition...
[09:42] <raster> no limits
[09:42] <EmxBA> faillingdutch: yes?
[09:42] <gary4gar> EmxBA, my display is not good as it is in win-xp
[09:42] <raster> no caps
[09:42] <raster> and thats 100mbit symmetric
[09:42] <gary4gar> what to do?
[09:42] <raster> (upstream too)
[09:42] <maswan> raster: sounds like sweden to me. :)
[09:42] <EmxBA> gary4gar: then try searching drivers for ati/nvidia
[09:42] <raster> i seriously woudl love to see the world move to that
[09:42] <maswan> (well, we had caps up to a year or two ago)
[09:42] <raster> finally everyone will have ubiqutous bandwidth to have fun with
[09:42] <gary4gar> i have onboard gfx k8m800
[09:42] <Fenix_NBK_> Does the *real* performance is 100 Mbit/s?
[09:42] <EmxBA> raster: i would like to have 150 mbit fair use connection at home :)
[09:42] <raster> maswan:  removed now?
[09:43] <brendonjt> raster:  bugga ae grrr bloody nz telecom
[09:43] <Fenix_NBK_> have you measured?
[09:43] <maswan> Fenix_NBK_: yes
[09:43] <gary4gar> www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets/k8-series/k8m800/
[09:43] <raster> EmxBA: not much use. most of the internet has yet to catch up
[09:43] <maswan> raster: Yeah, after the last renegotiation of contract. Btw, for me it is included in my rent here. :)
[09:43] <raster> EmxBA: 30mbit is about where it maxes out.
[09:43] <raster> to access any single datastream
[09:43] <raster> maswan: nice!
[09:43] <Fenix_NBK_> have you measured? how much "kilobytes/s" you download from nvidia site?
[09:43] <EmxBA> raster: ah, i know, but i would like to download whole internet once :) :) :) (just a joke) :D
[09:43] <raster> maswan: thats sweet. 1 less bill
[09:43] <raster> :)
[09:44] <Fenix_NBK_> have you measured? how much "kilobytes/s" you download from nvidia site?
[09:44] <maswan> raster: Yeah, it is. We're getting pretty good rates too when you hook up an entire block at once.
[09:44] <janbanan> I can't see video on my second screen(TV). I have a cloned screen and the desktop is displayed fine but when i open a video(avi) I get no picture on the second screen(Tv) on my monitor it works fine
[09:44] <raster> Fenix_NBK_: yes - i have measured.
[09:45] <Fenix_NBK_> how much "kilobytes/s" you download from nvidia site?
[09:45] <gary4gar> EmxBA, well i google a bit
[09:45] <raster> maswan: nice! :)
[09:45] <maswan> Fenix_NBK_: Never looked at nvidia's site, but it depends from where I download. If it is fairly close (say the closes releases.ubuntu.com mirror), I get full line speed
[09:45] <gary4gar> EmxBA, found a bug!
[09:45] <gary4gar> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/57062
[09:45] <DigiTalk> Hello everyone! Does someone know a howto for configuring Ubuntu as NTP-Timeserver?
[09:45] <maswan> raster: I think the actual cost is ~10 USD/apt
[09:45] <gary4gar> EmxBA, what to do now?????
[09:45] <EmxBA> gary4gar: nice ;)
[09:45] <raster> maswan: maybe - eventually the wole world will just decide that sticking 10/100/1000 rj45 ports in all homes is the way to go
[09:45] <EmxBA> jsut a sec
[09:45] <kelenius> |C:| |E:| |5GB| |ext3| |swap| |D:| this is how my partition table looks at the moment and I need to merge ext3 with 5GB of empty space. Help needed.
[09:45] <raster> in fact a lot of the newer built apts in tokyo come with rj45 built in
[09:46] <raster> quite nice
[09:46] <Fenix_NBK_> I believe Ethernet is the way to go for Internet.
[09:46] <EmxBA> gary4gar: look at the https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/43154
[09:46] <maswan> raster: around here, that's the usual way for new apartmens being built as of the last 5 years or so
[09:46] <EmxBA> Fenix_NBK_: wireless sometimes
[09:46] <raster> maswan:  same here
[09:46] <maswan> raster: I wish the rest of the world was as forward-looking
[09:46] <raster> it seems
[09:46] <Fenix_NBK_> yes. for laptops - it's wireles.. But for home PC it's ethernet.
[09:46] <raster> i await - with glee, the death of the rj11 socket
[09:47] <Fenix_NBK_> low cost and high speed.
[09:47] <raster> and anything analog-phone-like
[09:47] <raster> everything is ip and ethernet
[09:47] <Fenix_NBK_> :)
[09:47] <Krisssy> Hi, Im probably the 10000000th person to ask this, but is there a way to restore the grub menu from the Ubuntu CD after fixmbr with windowsXP-cd ?
[09:47] <xhaan> some people dont have cable service in thier area yet... or even dsl :p
[09:47] <raster> actually spekaing of lappy
[09:47] <raster> i am amazed
[09:47] <DigiTalk> raster: sounds fine with me as this is what I planned for my future home :-)
[09:47] <raster> ubunut edgey booted
[09:47] <raster> the instalelr
[09:47] <raster> and didnt have any problems
[09:47] <raster> on a brand new lappy with a gf7900gtx
[09:47] <gary4gar> EmxBA, checking it out, thanx:)
[09:47] <raster> it got the lcd resolution correct too
[09:48] <raster> first off
[09:48] <raster> synaptics touchpand worked
[09:48] <Fenix_NBK_> Krisssy: I am not a Ubuntu user, but I am a Linuxoid. That is use: "grub-install /dev/hda" (if hda is your HDD)
[09:48] <raster> i'm actually impressed
[09:48] <raster> to get that all right
[09:48] <raster> from first boot
[09:48] <mus0> skype on ubuntu..
[09:48] <raster> automagically
[09:48] <ryancr> any thoughts why gtk themes dont' work with xgl?
[09:48] <mus0> when I run it.
[09:48] <maswan> 10.38M/s for ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso from se.releases.u.c, 4.13 MB/s from releases.u.c (the UK datacenter)
[09:49] <mus0> I'm not able to type in my username and pass
[09:49] <mus0> into the forms.
[09:49] <raster> crap
[09:49] <gary4gar> EmxBA, well i searched for it but still no solution
[09:49] <mus0> am able to paste them in, though.
[09:49] <raster> it detected the multimedia volume buttons on the thing
[09:49] <raster> ro chose a keymap that just would work with it
[09:49] <maswan> Fenix_NBK_: that answer your question?
[09:49] <raster> damn
[09:49] <raster> nice
[09:49] <gary4gar> EmxBA, just all problems
[09:49] <mus0> then can't type into the skype chat form.
[09:49] <mus0> some kind of interface prob?
[09:49] <gary4gar> i noticed i am not alone
[09:49] <mus0> only happens with skype...
[09:49] <mus0> so far.
[09:50] <gary4gar> there pletnly of them
[09:50] <j0lliyo> i can't get a higher resolution than 1024x768, even thought the nvidia drivers seems to be working, as i see the nvidia splashscreen on boot
[09:50] <EmxBA> gary4gar: ah :(
[09:50] <mus0> I'm not able to type in my username and pass
[09:50] <Fenix_NBK_> maswan: very nice speeds.
[09:50] <gary4gar> wonder what developers are doing??
[09:50] <mus0> or type into the chat forms.
[09:50] <mus0> for skype
[09:50] <gary4gar> after so namy bugs reports also still no sulotion
[09:50] <mus0> am I missing a package or two?
[09:51] <mus0> libs?
[09:51] <gary4gar> EmxBA, should i start a thread in ubuntu forums???
[09:51] <Fenix_NBK_> Krisssy: that helped you?
[09:51] <gary4gar> b'cos noone seems to me helping me there
[09:51] <gary4gar> here
[09:52] <Fenix_NBK_> ppl: is the any FTP-repo that has all the packages?
[09:52] <cherubiel> guys, how do i get to run kdm by default instead of gdm?
[09:52] <cherubiel> is there any file i would nee to edit?
[09:52] <EmxBA> gary4gar: well...
[09:52] <EmxBA> first explain your problem here
[09:52] <Fenix_NBK_> EmxBA:  is the any FTP-repo that has all the packages?
[09:52] <Flannel> Fenix_NBK_: all of the mirrors have all of the packages
[09:53] <gary4gar> EmxBA, see my display is up to the mark
[09:53] <DigiTalk> Has anyone a link for a howto of using ubuntu as timeserver? Or maybe someone can help me? I don't find anything useful on the net...
[09:53] <EmxBA> Fenix_NBK: just a sec
[09:53] <gary4gar> its qyulity is very degraded
[09:53] <Krisssy> tnx fenix, Ill try that
[09:53] <Flannel> chameleon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:53] <gary4gar> even i try to read some mags as e-books
[09:54] <gary4gar> when i scrool it the gfx are all corrupted
[09:54] <EmxBA> fenix_NBK_: erm, no...only user ftp packages
[09:54] <gary4gar> and return fime after 2sec
[09:54] <gary4gar> i can't run apps like tv time
[09:54] <gary4gar> to use my tv tuner card
[09:55] <EmxBA> uhh that could be hardware problem
[09:55] <Fenix_NBK_> EmxBA: what do you mean by "user packages?
[09:56] <gary4gar> ya, there are sevral bugs reports on this but developers are speeling
[09:56] <gary4gar> bad
[09:56] <gary4gar> real bad
[09:56] <EmxBA> Fenix_NBK_: like seveas ubuntu packages
[09:56] <EmxBA> http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/
[09:56] <EmxBA> you know seveas?
[09:56] <linuchsan> DigiTalk:apt-get install ntp-server
[09:57] <kevinG> how do i compile python programs?
[09:57] <Flannel> kevinG: you dont
[09:57] <Fenix_NBK_> EmxBA: ahhh you mean 3rd party repositories...
[09:57] <kevinG> hmm..ok
[09:57] <DigiTalk> linuchsan: don't I have to configure something?
[09:57] <janez> hello, I need someone to help me install and connect to the internet with PCMCI globetrotter gt max e card
[09:58] <Fenix_NBK_> so how the apt-get uses the repositories?
[09:58] <tjb> How can I get my keyboard's 'start' key to invoke the main menu?
[09:58] <Flannel> kevinG: actually, I suppose you can.  You mean compiling into bytecode?
[09:58] <linuchsan> DigiTalk:yes, ntp.conf
[09:59] <kevinG> well...there is this script for xchat written in python and it doesn't seem to be working
[09:59] <DigiTalk> linuchsan: ok, thanx!
[09:59] <dmoyne> hello ; does anybody knows the way to execute a command with an app on a file to avoid the creation of a new instance of the called app each time ?
[09:59] <brendonjt> Fenix_nbk_: connects to the net, downloads the apps and installs the apps  it uses the repositories as guides to look on the web for the apps
[09:59] <maki> hello
[09:59] <tjb> Any ideas?
[09:59] <maki> could anybody help?
[10:00] <brendonjt> maki: help with what
[10:00] <poningru> tjb: use the keyboard shortcut under system->preferences
[10:00] <redondo81> Hi boys,I have a problem,when I lunch linux at startup it gives me an error : "File system check filed .Please repair manually."What can I do to repair?
[10:00] <DigiTalk> linuchsan: Seems to work, locally, thank you very much! (If you want to try synchronization from outside, its server.winamp-faq.de)
[10:01] <maki> i download firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz and used tar to unpack and there is no installer of firefox and no of command like .configure make install.sh doesnd work
[10:01] <Flannel> maki: why are you compiling 1.5?
[10:01] <hangfire> KevinG, use the DrPython editor to run python programs
[10:01] <maki> i want firefox for i686 it would be faster?
[10:01] <poningru> maki: what version of ubuntu are you using/
[10:01] <poningru> maki: not much
[10:01] <maki> 6.06
[10:02] <redondo81> can anyone help me?
[10:02] <poningru> you already have firefox 1.5
[10:02] <maki> now im dl source code
[10:02] <maki> yes
[10:02] <poningru> redondo81: do you have your ubuntu cd?
[10:02] <redondo81> yes
[10:02] <redondo81> I use kubuntu,is the same?
[10:02] <poningru> maki: the amount of headache it is to compile firefox... it is pointless
[10:02] <poningru> redondo81: yeah
[10:02] <poningru> for our purpose
[10:03] <poningru> redondo81: what version of kubuntu?
[10:03] <maki> so abord downloading source code/
[10:03] <brendonjt> maki: yip :)
[10:03] <redondo81> the last,I don't remember the number
[10:03] <poningru> maki: if you want you can compile it but I would recomend against it, unless you want to do this for fun/learning
[10:04] <poningru> then I would def recomend you do this
[10:04] <brendonjt> maki: unless you are a devloper
[10:04] <poningru> redondo81: boot into the livecd
[10:04] <maki> im not developer just usr noob
[10:04] <redondo81> and then
[10:04] <mus0> let's put it this way...
[10:04] <mus0> I've got an app which is not functioning.
[10:04] <poningru> redondo81: you have to use the command fsck
[10:05] <hangfire> maki- the whole idea of ubuntu is to do away with having to compile your own programs
[10:05] <mus0> when I bring it up.
[10:05] <mus0> I can't type into any of the forms...
[10:05] <mus0> what do I need to do?
[10:05] <mus0> anyone have any ideas.
[10:05] <janez> anyone knows how to install pcmci card?
[10:05] <redondo81> I have to lunch this command and stop?
[10:05] <maki> what is called firefox for i686 in repository?
[10:05] <tjb> Okay, I bound the 'start' key to 'show the panel menu'.  However, when the panel is hidden (it's set to auto-hide), it doesn't become visible when I press 'start' (only the menu shows).  Is there any way around this?
[10:05] <poningru> redondo81: launch gnome-terminal
[10:06] <redondo81> yes, I lunch gnome-terminal and digit the command fsck and then...?
[10:07] <poningru> ah hold on
[10:08] <redondo81> I finished launching the command fsck from the live cd?
[10:09] <janez> anyone knows how to install pcmci card?
[10:09] <poningru> redondo81: type in 'fsck' and just wait till it finishes
[10:09] <brendonjt> !fsck
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <redondo81> ok , I'll try now,see you later,thanks
[10:09] <poningru> redondo81: sorry meant 'sudo fsck'
[10:10] <redondo81> ok ok
[10:11] <brendonjt> what does  fsck
[10:12] <poningru> brendonjt: man fsck ;)
[10:12] <poningru> brendonjt:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsck
[10:12] <poningru> that might be a bit better
[10:12] <brendonjt> i just man fsck
[10:13] <maple1> you fsck men?
[10:14] <brendonjt> maplel: no in a terminal  i typed man fsck for the fsck manual
[10:16] <poningru> maple1: that joke was not particularly conformant to the coc
[10:16] <raboof> what's the preferred way of mounting ftp sites on dapper?
[10:16] <Sakireth> Hey, all. I want to add a custom search engine to the desk bar (I discovered yubnub. Yepyep ;P) so now I want to add it. How to?
[10:16] <raboof> curlftpfs seems to require a more recent version of libcurl3
[10:16] <poningru> raboof: many ways: firefox, nautilus
[10:16] <poningru> etc.
[10:16] <poningru> raboof: oh
[10:16] <raboof> i'd prefer something on the commandline
[10:17] <poningru> there is always simple pftp
[10:17] <poningru> or you want to actually mount the ftp site a drive??
[10:18] <raboof> yes, i'd like to mount it as a drive
[10:18] <liangwei> lumaqq
[10:18] <poningru> raboof: sorry dude no clue
[10:19] <poningru> raboof: let me look around hold on
[10:20] <brendonjt> poningru:  cheers  what does  CoC  mean?
[10:22] <poningru> code of conduct
[10:22] <poningru> !coc
[10:22] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:22] <brendonjt> poningru:  thank  you for that,  should have relised :)
[10:23] <tjb> I have things like an ssh daemon running on start up.  How do I view this list and edit it?
[10:23] <tjb> the list of things set to run on start-up*
[10:23] <Sakireth> Hey, all. I want to add a custom search engine to the desk bar (I discovered yubnub. Yepyep ;P) so now I want to add it. How to?
[10:24] <adok> Hey people!
[10:24] <blue-frog> at login screen we can choose the language, to have only one english choice (for example), is reconfiguring locales and choosing only one english the only way?
[10:24] <Sakireth> (I'm banned at #ubuntu-offtopic so i can't say the offtopic stuff there)
[10:24] <adok> Could anyone help me with one things please? It will be quick a sware.
[10:25] <adok> one thing*
[10:25] <adok> i sware*
[10:25] <adok> Wow i cant type today.
[10:25] <tjb> swear*
[10:25] <Sakireth> :P
[10:25] <nickipee> hi um
[10:25] <adok> rawr
[10:25] <Sakireth> Adok, Iwill help you if you help me.
[10:25] <nickipee> are noob questions allowed here?
[10:25] <Sakireth> since nobody answers here :P
[10:25] <Sakireth> nick: Sure, go ahead.
[10:25] <adok> Go on sak..
[10:25] <Sakireth> adok: Hey, all. I want to add a custom search engine to the desk bar (I discovered yubnub. Yepyep ;P) so now I want to add it. How to?
[10:26] <nickipee> cheers:  anyone here using linux ppc, and if so, how do i get youtube flash videos to play on firefox using swf-player
[10:26] <adok> wiw i have no clue
[10:26] <adok> lol
[10:26] <adok> wow*
[10:26] <adok> damnit!
[10:26] <Sakireth> dangit
[10:26] <Sakireth> ok
[10:26] <Sakireth> what is your problem? XD
[10:26] <adok> Nickipee, linux has only flash player 7, and youtube uses flash player 9.
[10:26] <nickipee> those *bastards*
[10:26] <adok> so untill linux gets a higher version of flash player, then.. ya
[10:27] <Sakireth> nickipee: No. it's not that way
[10:27] <Sakireth> nickipee: Follow the official guide, and install flash.
[10:27] <nickipee> so architechture makes no difference, ok
[10:27] <adok> anyways, anyone know what program to use to run .sit's on ubuntu?
[10:27] <nickipee> is there flash for ppc however?
[10:27] <Sakireth> nickipee: After each install, just follow the guide and you will get everything you need
[10:27] <poningru> adok: use videodownloader extension for firefox and play the resulting videos in mplayer
[10:27] <poningru> nickipee: you too
[10:28] <nickipee> poningru: ooo thats good advice
[10:28] <poningru> Sakireth: http://live.gnome.org/DeskbarApplet/Extending
[10:28] <ketsugi> No lolis here please
[10:28] <ketsugi> Let's keep this clean
[10:29] <adok> anyone know what program to use to run .sit's on ubuntu?
[10:29] <Sakireth> poningru: thanks ^^
[10:29] <Flannel> adok: sit is stuffit, an archive sort of thing.  You don't run them, and no, I don't believe theres a non-mac expander
[10:29] <poningru> adok: hold on
[10:30] <adok> holding, and yes Flannel i know. I was told since its osx i can still run it on linux. not too sure about that.
[10:30] <Sakireth> poningru: that is very, very difficult..
[10:30] <Sakireth> poningru: Why aren't you allowed to add any url's with a %s in it like a normal search bar?
[10:31] <poningru> adok: if you are looking to run osx apps on linux... I dont think thats possible
[10:31] <poningru> Sakireth: /me shrugs
[10:31] <adok> well all it is, is a compression tingy
[10:31] <nickipee> and another thing, what is up with the ugly firefox icons in ubuntu
[10:32] <poningru> nickipee: :(
[10:32] <poningru> I liked them
[10:32] <poningru> well atleast the 2.0 ones
[10:33] <adok> crap i really want this sit to work
[10:33] <adok> im trying to run zbrush
[10:33] <linuchsan> adok:http://www.stuffit.com/unix/
[10:33] <brendonjt> kia Ora henrym
[10:33] <adok> omgzors
[10:33] <adok> thanks
[10:34] <poningru> brendonjt: what language was that?
[10:34] <poningru> hindi?
[10:34] <brendonjt> maori
[10:34] <brendonjt> it is the native language of new zealand  before the european came to new zealand
[10:35] <venky> what is the channel for eft?
[10:35] <poningru> hehe I know what maori is
[10:35] <poningru> venky: #ubuntu+1
[10:35] <brendonjt> Ko brendon  taku ingua
[10:35] <justin_> brendonjt: Is this about language translations for ubuntu? if not -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:35] <venky> ty
[10:36] <brendonjt> justin_: it is a greating it means hello
[10:36] <poningru> if no one has any questions...
[10:36] <poningru> nn
[10:36] <justin_> Ok, but for future reference - if it is not about ubuntu, its in offtopic ;D
[10:36] <geehoon> Why is "ar -x file.deb" giving me bash: ar: command not found.  last time i checked... that unpacks debs
[10:36] <brendonjt> justin_:ok sorry
[10:36] <justin_> geehoon: dpkg
[10:37] <justin_> geehoon: Also, you may need to install the package to "ar" - Ubuntu, is based on Debian, it is not .. debian vanilla.
[10:37] <justin_> or verbatim, take your pick
[10:37] <geehoon> justin_:  thanks; i dont need to install, just unpack
[10:38] <justin_> geehoon: Ok, well I tryed "ar" - it works for me, well command responds anyways - you may be lacking it try searching Synaptic for ->NAME->AR
[10:38] <MetaMorfoziS> !lmsensors
[10:38] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[10:39] <justin_> ubotu: botsnack
[10:39] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:39] <justin_> :D
[10:39] <soundray> What software would you recommend for saving a realaudio stream to a file?
[10:40] <linuchsan> soundray:mplayer
[10:40] <soundray> linuchsan: what's the option I should look up, pls?
[10:40] <justin_> soundray: I simply record on Rezound, while the file is playing.. some soundcards do that - I am not sure about yours...
[10:41] <linuchsan> soundray: -dumpfile filename -dumpstream url
[10:42] <HaroldJohnson> Hello all
[10:42] <soundray> That's great linuchsan, I'll try that -- thanks
[10:42] <justin_> HaroldJohnson: Hi.
[10:42] <brendonjt> kia ora harold
[10:42] <soundray> justin_: so rezound lets you edit and capture a stream played by any other software?
[10:42] <EmxBA> sorry
[10:42] <EmxBA> i was away
[10:42] <HaroldJohnson> brendonjt: Hello
[10:42] <HaroldJohnson> justin_:Hello
[10:42] <EmxBA> i bought stereo headphones ;)
[10:42] <justin_> soundray: All audio editors do - if your soundcard supports wave realtme capture
[10:42] <EmxBA> GaroldJohnoson : HI
[10:43] <HaroldJohnson> EmxBA: Hi
[10:43] <justin_> It's more of a hardware thing ;D
[10:43] <justin_> Does anyone play Daimonin on Ubuntu?
[10:44] <orbin> evening.  could someone help me mount my usb stick?  all i get is this from /messages when i insert it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22308
[10:44] <justin_> If not, I suggest.. you close your important work if you plan to - it seems to create a memory leak in X..
[10:44] <brendonjt> justin_:what is that
[10:44] <justin_> orbin: It does not show up on your desktop automatically?
[10:44] <justin_> a new device that is?
[10:44] <justin_> brendonjt: A mmorpg game
[10:44] <orbin> justin_: nope.  it did in breezy.
[10:44] <justin_> www.daimonin.net
[10:45] <soundray> justin_: thanks, I'll investigate
[10:45] <justin_> Orbin, mine work find for me -are you on dapper?
[10:45] <HaroldJohnson> I've got a program installed in /usr/bin; anyone know how I can run that program by another name?
[10:45] <orbin> justin_: yes
[10:45] <orbin> HaroldJohnson: alias perhaps
[10:45] <justin_> soundray: Yeah, go to your record devices - and see if you have "wave" if so up that a little bit - play anything, and record -if it records ;D well great, if not it's back to all the cryptic console commands to leech hah
[10:46] <soundray> HaroldJohnson: create a link to it: 'ln -s /usr/bin/oldname /usr/bin/newname'
[10:46] <justin_> orbin: Did you do a clean install or old?
[10:46] <HaroldJohnson> orbin: How do I set that up?
[10:46] <HeathenDan> my usb pendrive works too
[10:46] <HaroldJohnson> soundray: Thank you
[10:46] <orbin> justin_: old?
[10:46] <justin_> Oops, clean install or online update/upgrade?
[10:46] <orbin> clean
[10:46] <justin_> orbin: Yeah, I haven't slept in 42 hours :))
[10:46] <orbin> ouch. :)
[10:46] <justin_> orbin, what brand mem stick - and which device did it usually show up as?
[10:47] <orbin> er....budget brand? lol ... i just picked it up as a cheapo from a computer store
[10:47] <justin_> Haha ok ok, well have you tryed - shutdown - replugging your stick and restarting the computer?
[10:47] <justin_> instead of plugging it in after dapper is loaded?
[10:47] <orbin> numerous times, yes.
[10:47] <justin_> hmmm....
[10:47] <HeathenDan> what kernel are you using?
[10:48] <orbin> 2.6.15-26-k7
[10:48] <justin_> orbin: what device did it show up as before anyways?
[10:48] <justin_> /dev/s??
[10:49] <justin_> You could always look in dev - see if the device is listed
[10:49] <orbin> justin_: yes, it was probably /dev/sda(something)
[10:49] <HeathenDan> wow, i use the same kernel... have you tried using the generic 386 one?
[10:49] <orbin> i have...there are no sda entries
[10:49] <justin_> If not sudo -H -s, nano (or whatever console text you like) and open a blank file, and save it as the device
[10:49] <orbin> HeathenDan: i removed the old one :)
[10:49] <justin_> orbin: Alright create them
[10:49] <justin_> create two actually sda/sdb
[10:50] <orbin> justin_: why two?  and i read somewhere you create them via mknod or something
[10:50] <orbin> would the text-editor method work too?
[10:50] <justin_> orbin, yeah you probably can - but why go the easy way
[10:50] <justin_> Yeah, dev's except a few - are simply blank files
[10:50] <lordhelmet> orbin: does dmesg say anything when you plug the stick in?
[10:50] <orbin> ah, ok
[10:50] <justin_> That are filled up once the device is in
[10:50] <orbin> lordhelmet: i think dmesg mirrors what messages says
[10:51] <tjb> I have ssh-agent running on start-up.  How can I stop this?
[10:51] <lordhelmet> i missed the error..what was it?
[10:51] <justin_> so sudo - and save to BLANK files as /dev/sda /dev/sdb - shutdown your machine, plug the stick see if it shows up - if not, unplug replug see if that works - if not... *shrugs* something else must be causing it
[10:51] <justin_> tjb: You must edit your start up files
[10:52] <justin_> I think its /etc/rc/d/init.d
[10:52] <justin_> orbin
[10:52] <justin_> Also
[10:52] <orbin> lordhelmet: dmesg says the same stuff: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22308
[10:52] <justin_> What WM are you using?
[10:52] <redondo81> I have a problem at sturtup,it gives me an error : /dev/hda4 is mounted.32fsck:cannot continue,aborting.Filesystem check failed.Please repair manually
[10:52] <justin_> Gnome?
[10:52] <redondo81> What I can do?
[10:52] <geehoon> justin_:  i couldnt find anything in synaptic that is what i am looking for.   any other ideas?
[10:52] <orbin> justin_: yes, i've checked removable devices and media
[10:52] <redondo81> e2fsck
[10:53] <linuchsan> tj:update-rc.d -f ssh-agent remove
[10:53] <geehoon> concerning the unable to find ar
[10:53] <justin_> redondo81: geehoon What was your problem?
[10:53] <lordhelmet> redondo: use knoppix or something and fsck the partition while it's not mounted
[10:53] <geehoon> I cant use the ar command
[10:53] <blue-frog> how can I change the password of the ubuntu keyring once it is set?
[10:53] <justin_> geehoon: Ahh ar ;D
[10:53] <geehoon> har har ar ar.
[10:53] <justin_> geehoon: try using "name&decriptions" - if not simply install a new "ar" from source
[10:53] <orbin> justin_: ok, i'll try making those device files later.  thanks.
[10:53] <justin_> orbin:
[10:54] <justin_> orbin:
[10:54] <justin_> wait
[10:54] <justin_> What WM do you have?
[10:54] <redondo81> what is knoppix?
[10:54] <justin_> window manager
[10:54] <orbin> justin_: gnome/metacity iirc
[10:54] <justin_> redondo81: Another distro of Linux
[10:54] <redondo81> but the /dev/hda4 partition is where is the O.S.
[10:54] <orbin> justin_: whatever is default w/ dapper
[10:54] <justin_> orbin: Ok, try adding XFCE4 - if creating /sda /sdb does not work
[10:54] <lordhelmet> redondo81: basically boot into any live cd version of linux and then run the appropriate fsck on the partition
[10:55] <justin_> I had the same exact prob in gnome for some reason, I had to create my sd files manually
[10:55] <orbin> justin_: er...not really a fan of xfce though.  but i'll keep it in mind
[10:55] <justin_> in XFCE4 however, they were autodetected
[10:55] <tjb> justin_: I don't have that file.
[10:55] <justin_> orbin: I never said you have to keep using it ;D
[10:55] <redondo81> but when I lunch at live cd and lunch fsck it controls nothing
[10:55] <tjb> justin_: Only /etc/init.d (directory)
[10:55] <orbin> justin_: i see ... so making the sd files fixed it?
[10:55] <justin_> It would simply serve to see if the problem is core, or cosmetic :)
[10:55] <redondo81> I have to specific the device
[10:55] <redondo81> ?
[10:55] <lordhelmet> red: yes
[10:56] <justin_> But yeah, create /dev/sda /dev/sdb - and shutdown with the device plugged at boot should work.
[10:56] <lordhelmet> and usually the type methinks (fsck.ext2) or something
[10:56] <redondo81> e.g. fsck /dev/hda4?
[10:56] <lordhelmet> red: yes....but fsck.ext2 /dev/whatever
[10:56] <lordhelmet> replace ext2 with the filesystem
[10:57] <redondo81> ok, I'll try,thenks
[10:57] <redondo81> thanks
[10:57] <lordhelmet> :)
[10:57] <lordhelmet> w00t i just transferred my entire system install from a sata drive to a pata drive with minimal hassle
[10:57] <justin_> lordhelmet: Rejoices
[10:58] <justin_> remember orbin .. you must be sudo when you create the dev files.
[10:58] <SkyNeT> i really need help
[10:59] <orbin> justin_: right. cheers.
[10:59] <justin_> SkyNeT: Terminators on the loose? :o :o
[10:59] <SkyNeT> am on ubuntu
[10:59] <raphis> hello world
[10:59] <justin_> SkyNeT: Kind of figured, what is on your mind?
[10:59] <gandalf> hello raphis
[10:59] <justin_> Let's hope its not a giant problem :)) - its too early haha
[10:59] <SkyNeT> am so piss off i don;t me what i am doing
[10:59] <SkyNeT> i try to install this
[11:00] <SkyNeT> am at the partition part
[11:00] <raphis> ubunt is like other linux...
[11:00] <narasim_7> hello..is the xorg update safe now..i am getting a warning in synaptic
[11:00] <justin_> SkyNeT: What is a matter with the install?
[11:00] <justin_> narasim_7: Nope
[11:00] <gandalf> i'm a problem......totem with ubuntu don't work...
[11:00] <justin_> narasim_7: I would update it still at your own risk, which probably will mean lots of advils, and loss movie watching etc.
[11:00] <engi1> Hiya. What command can I use to send the contents of a file as-is to a program listening on a socket?
[11:00] <SkyNeT> it say here free space preceeding mb
[11:00] <narasim_7> justin_: oh (:-
[11:00] <justin_> gandalf: - Did you install all req's libraries?
[11:00] <SkyNeT> new size mb 38162
[11:01] <narasim_7> justin_: thanks
[11:01] <gandalf> mmmh..
[11:01] <SkyNeT> free space folling mb 0
[11:01] <justin_> narasim_7: Yeah, stay away from it for now..in my opinion
[11:01] <justin_> If it works, no need to fix it ;)
[11:01] <SkyNeT> following mb 0
[11:01] <narasim_7> justin_: hehe..ok
[11:01] <justin_> SkyNeT: - Are you talking about partitioning?
[11:01] <raphis> somebody can halp me with mania drive game ?????????????????????????????????????????/
[11:01] <SkyNeT> yes
[11:01] <Krisssy> I am having problems restoring my GRUB loader with grub-install. I'm typing from the live CD atm. Can someone tell me how to restore the grub loader?
[11:02] <SkyNeT> yes justion
[11:02] <SkyNeT> i have 40 GB
[11:02] <SkyNeT> and windows xp
[11:02] <SkyNeT> is on the hard drive as will
[11:02] <SkyNeT> so right now have 1 partition
[11:02] <SkyNeT> with is 40GB
[11:02] <justin_> !grub
[11:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:02] <SkyNeT> and it fat32
 u should give the root path in the command like grup-install (hd0,1)
[11:02] <tjb> SkyNeT: What is the problem?
[11:03] <justin_> SkyNeT: You will need to ask someone else, I have never had windows on my machine - so I am not familiar with that sort of install.
[11:03] <Krisssy> ummm, no, wait, Ill try
[11:03] <SkyNeT> i help set up the partition
[11:03] <raphis> can some body help me with mania drive?
[11:03] <justin_> tjb: And yes you were right, it is etc/init.d
[11:03] <samuel> #ubuntu-it
[11:03] <tjb> SkyNeT: What is your question?
[11:04] <justin_> I was thinking of rc0.d in my head, over something I am fixing locally.
[11:04] <justin_> tjb: He wants to know how to install Ubuntu and Windows XP on the same disk, partitioning at install...
[11:04] <SkyNeT> yes
[11:04] <justin_> raphis: What is that?
[11:04] <SkyNeT> am in the ubuntu try to intstall it right now
[11:04] <SkyNeT> am at the partition part
[11:05] <raphis> on my ubuntu mania drive run slowly, very slowly
[11:05] <justin_> raphis: Umm, WHAT is .. 'mania drive'?
[11:05] <raphis> yes
[11:05] <raphis> car racer game
[11:05] <justin_> raphis: What is your graphics card?
[11:06] <SkyNeT> so can any one help me
[11:06] <raphis> radeon 9200 se
[11:06] <raphis> and i have duron 1800 MHZ processor
[11:06] <tjb> SkyNeT: You need to be more specific. What part is causing you trouble?
[11:06] <justin_> raphis: What driver are you using?
[11:06] <raphis> 256 RAM of memory
[11:06] <SkyNeT> ok i lick on the one drive
[11:07] <raphis> hmmm i don't know really, i used easyubuntu
[11:07] <SkyNeT> that i have it fat32
[11:07] <justin_> What is the driver you are using in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:07] <SkyNeT> in 40 good partitioned
[11:07] <raphis> wait
[11:07] <ja1> is it possible  to show the content under "session" menu in gdm greeter in a directly acessible combo ?
[11:07] <SkyNeT> and i need to cut it in hafe
[11:07] <justin_> raphis: -Solution = replace driver with flgrx
[11:07] <SkyNeT> so i have 2 partition
[11:07] <justin_> raphis:
[11:07] <tjb> SkyNeT: Use the Ubuntu installer to resize the current partition.
[11:07] <justin_> raphis: driver fglrx linux
[11:08] <SkyNeT> so i click on it and to the arow and it say rezie /move /dev /hdal
[11:08] <justin_> Put that text into google, you will need that driver - or your games will ALL be very very slow on yoru card.
[11:08] <justin_> your,...
[11:08] <SkyNeT> i am tjb
[11:08] <SkyNeT> that where i am
[11:08] <SkyNeT> right now
[11:08] <justin_> You will need to also open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file - and when you fine "device" - change it to fglrx
[11:08] <raphis> Section "Module"
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"GLcore"
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"i2c"
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"bitmap"
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"ddc"
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"dri"
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"extmod"
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"freetype"
[11:08] <tjb> SkyNeT: Are you on this screen?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=6.png
[11:08] <justin_> raphis...
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"glx"
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"int10"
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"type1"
[11:08] <raphis> 	Load	"vbe"
[11:09] <ketsugi> pastebins for teh win
[11:09] <justin_> Not a goog idea, that is flooding - what you need to do is simply paste the "device" section of your xorg.cong
[11:09] <justin_> conf* even
[11:09] <justin_> good :))
[11:09] <justin_> goog, idea haha
[11:09] <raphis> and what is flgrx ???
[11:10] <SkyNeT> i was but i had to go to manually edit partit on table
[11:10] <justin_> raphis: It is a Radeon driver, made by ATI for linux..
[11:10] <justin_> You are probably using "ati" which is painfully slow for games..
[11:10] <raphis> ok i have to try
[11:10] <justin_> raphis, so yeah - download the driver
[11:10] <tjb> SkyNeT: Why did you have to go manually?
[11:10] <justin_> I think you may even be able to install it through Synpatic...
[11:10] <raphis> but you know...
[11:10] <tjb> SkyNeT: It's much harder the manual way. I wouldn't recommend it.
[11:10] <SkyNeT> i try the one your show there
[11:11] <SkyNeT> i click next
[11:11] <SkyNeT> and it say not anuff room on my harddrive
[11:11] <justin_> When that is done you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf - look for "ati" or "radeon" and replace it with flgrx whatever its name is
[11:11] <sokuban> Can anyone reccomend me a flac encoder? So I can rip a CD and turn it off?
[11:11] <SkyNeT> but my hard drive it 5 persent used
[11:11] <raphis> before installing easyubunt game was fine, and after somethin' was broke
[11:11] <SkyNeT> out of 40
[11:11] <SkyNeT> so it don;t make sec
[11:11] <tjb> SkyNeT: How big did you make the 'New partition size' (which means the new size of the Windows partition).
[11:11] <justin_> raphis, probably your driver - it probably was flgrx - and got switched back to "ati" or "radeon"
[11:12] <justin_> So yeah, simply change the driver back ..
[11:12] <SkyNeT> 50%
[11:12] <raphis> but easyubuntu have drivers for ati!
[11:12] <justin_> raphis: And? - you do not want "ati" you want "flgrx"
[11:12] <justin_> fglrx I mean.
[11:12] <raphis> ok thanx
[11:12] <tjb> SkyNeT: How much space is used on the Windows partition?
[11:12] <orbin> sokuban: sound juicer's installed by default. but i prefer grip
[11:12] <justin_> whatever its name is, what a stupid name for a driver .. seriously....
[11:13] <justin_> orbin: So what happened?
[11:13] <Shadowpillar> question
[11:13] <justin_> Shadowpillar: ?
[11:13] <orbin> justin_: haven't done it yet. :)
[11:13] <justin_> orbin: Ahh ;D
[11:13] <Shadowpillar> how do I run reinstall grub to the MBR from the live cd?
[11:13] <SkyNeT> it don;t say
[11:13] <justin_> You can always do it term wise whatever, just make sure its a console text editor and that you are sudo
[11:13] <SkyNeT> under used it not showing
[11:14] <justin_> Shadowpillar: No clue
[11:14] <justin_> !grub
[11:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:14] <Shadowpillar> see, funny thing,  is that grub installed to my old HDD and not my new SATA drive
[11:14] <justin_> One thing I really suck at is MBR stuff :))
[11:14] <orbin> justin_: you gave the right factoid.  Shadowpillar : see ubotu's 1st link
[11:14] <Shadowpillar> my computer is a LOT quieter without two noisy IDE HDD's in them
[11:15] <tjb> SkyNeT: Click 'manually edit' and then 'next' (to find out how much space is used on the Windows parition) and then 'back'
[11:15] <justin_> Yeah, mine is getting loud.. but I think it's the dusty fan and not the disk..
[11:15] <justin_> Loud pc's are annoying :( but they all get loud after a while...
[11:16] <justin_> Well time to restart X..
[11:16] <justin_> So yeah remember, if you ever play a game called "Daimonin"
[11:16] <justin_> remember.. it seems to cause a huge mem leak in X unfortunately.. :s
[11:16] <javier> hola
[11:17] <javier> soy nuevo en guadalinex
[11:17] <javier> acabo de istalar v.3.0.1
[11:17] <javier> y no me deja utilizar el raton de cable
[11:17] <javier> el de toa la vida
[11:17] <javier> como se hace para q funcione
[11:17] <say^> Question: In X (at least in GDM and GNOME) my Scroll Lock key doesn't work: that is, it doesn't turn on my SL led. In all the text VTs it works. This matters to me, because the SL led also turns on my keyboard backlight. (I can switch it on with xset led 3, but I'd rather use the Scroll Lock key)
[11:17] <muhammad> @_@
[11:18] <MenZa> !it > javier
[11:18] <MenZa> !it
[11:18] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:18] <javier> ok
[11:18] <SkyNeT> it don;t tell
[11:18] <SkyNeT> me am fuked
[11:18] <SkyNeT> this suck
[11:18] <javier> sorry
[11:18] <Shadowpillar> wait nm
[11:18] <SkyNeT> i bet my windows is fuk 2
[11:18] <Shadowpillar> I remembered how to do it lol
[11:18] <albacker> guys when will edgy become stable version ?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> SkyNeT: please watch your language
[11:18] <justin_> albacker: October 25th, or around that time.
[11:18] <gnomefreak> albacker: late oct
[11:19] <albacker> justin_, gnomefreak thanks
[11:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:19] <justin_> yup
[11:20] <tjb> SkyNeT: You haven't actually done anything yet, have you?
[11:20] <tjb> SkyNeT: Tell me exactly what you're trying and exactly the error message you're getting.
[11:20] <javier> do you know a spanish chat?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> javier: #ubuntu-es
[11:21] <livingdaylight> anyone here use Freespire?
[11:22] <SkyNeT> it say that 37.27GB is unused
[11:22] <SkyNeT> and it don;t show any used
[11:23] <tjb> SkyNeT: What happens when you click 'next' on the following screen?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=6.png
[11:24] <hockyhair> i have a question for you guys, i have a machine with ubuntu + windows, windows was the first os i had on the system.. i want to change the windows partition (from xp home, to vista) can i do this without messing up the dual boot or am i gonna run into trouble...
[11:24] <SkyNeT> the bar sitting on 56%
[11:24] <SkyNeT> 19.6GB
[11:24] <SkyNeT> the bar sit at
[11:24] <SkyNeT> if i hit next
[11:24] <sioux> hi people
[11:25] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: you can do that.
[11:25] <sioux> I have a sirius problem with USB wireless
[11:25] <hockyhair> Ackeubu_: it wont mess anything up?
[11:25] <Ackeubu_> but you might need to reinstall the
[11:25] <timomiles> hockyhair: i dont know how Vista does its installing. It might wanna be greedy and reformat the HDD. But i'm quite sure it'll let you just isntall/upgrade your windows partition
[11:25] <SkyNeT> say failed to create enough space for installation
[11:25] <SkyNeT> witch is not right
[11:25] <hockyhair> timomiles: i think your right
[11:25] <SkyNeT> at all
[11:25] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: huum the thing that makes you pick what os to load
[11:25] <hockyhair> boot loader
[11:25] <tjb> SkyNeT: Did you defragment your Windows parition before booting?
[11:26] <SkyNeT> befor load what ?
[11:26] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: yes thanks
[11:26] <SkyNeT> i did not defragment
[11:26] <tjb> SkyNeT: Before you booted Ubuntu.
[11:26] <SkyNeT> why do i need to defragment
[11:26] <flake> i have vista, xp and ubuntu set up
[11:26] <hockyhair> Ackeubu_: where is that bootloader stored anyway?
[11:26] <tjb> SkyNeT: That's probably why. You should defrag first.
[11:26] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: on the first hd
[11:26] <hockyhair> flake: get rc1 (5600) yet?
[11:26] <SkyNeT> ok
[11:26] <flake> rc1 ?
[11:26] <tjb> SkyNeT: Boot back into Windows, defragment the whole hard disk, then boot back into Ubuntu to install.
[11:26] <SkyNeT> going to defagment then
[11:26] <hockyhair> Ackeubu_: i only have one hd
[11:26] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: prolly where you have windows
[11:27] <SkyNeT> ok
[11:27] <Ackeubu_> on the first partition
[11:27] <tjb> SkyNeT: Also back up important files before defragging.
[11:27] <tjb> SkyNeT: Just in case.
[11:27] <hockyhair> ubuntu bootloader would be on the ubuntu partition and windows bootloader would be on windows partition correct?
[11:27] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: no
[11:27] <hockyhair> no?
[11:27] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: they are one i think
[11:27] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: i might be wrong
[11:27] <gnomefreak> hockyhair: normally default place os MBR
[11:27] <timomiles> hockyhair: the boot loader sits on the MBR
[11:27] <hockyhair> ubuntu has it's own loader..
[11:28] <gnomefreak> s/os/is
[11:28] <hockyhair> MBR.. and where is that?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:28] <HeathenDan> the one on the mbr will be used
[11:28] <timomiles> Ubuntu uses Grub which sits on the MBR = Master Boot Record
[11:28] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: yeah master boot record?! on the first partition
[11:28] <Ackeubu_> first
[11:28] <Ackeubu_> on the hd
[11:28] <Ackeubu_> or partition
[11:28] <gnomefreak> hockyhair: first 512 bytes of first hard drive first partition
[11:28] <sparkling> hi all
[11:29] <hockyhair> so what happenes if i install vista on this first partition which i am planning on doing, will grub be deleted?
[11:29] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: bootloader is just a referense to the different os you have
[11:29] <Ackeubu_> so its references to drives
[11:29] <donrosin> chmod: changing permissions of /var/www operation not permissed
[11:29] <sparkling> anyone knows how to install ubuntu from shell without use the live icon "install"?
[11:29] <donrosin> what is wrong?
[11:29] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: is there a vista beta to dl? or how do i get it?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> hockyhair: installing windows after installing linux is not really a great idea because windows bootload will overwrite the mbr and make linux un bootable but there are ways to get it back just a pita to do
[11:30] <hockyhair> sign up is full but you still might be able to find it
[11:30] <sioux> My usb wireless g-220 do not work correctly even if the driver zd1211 is provided by default on ubuntu. It works for a while and than I get this error on dmesg:  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: host controller process error, somethin g bad happened!   uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: host controller halted, very bad    uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: HC died; cleaning up    usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2.   After this message the usb wirelessis removed. It is a problem
[11:30] <Ackeubu_> hockyhair: yeah thanks
[11:30] <KenSentMe> sparkling: i think you can use the alternate install cd
[11:30] <hockyhair> gnomefreak: so in this situtation what do you recomend i do?
[11:31] <flake> make sure you do backups before you install <-- something I'm already starting to learn among other things
[11:31] <sparkling> KenSentMe: what is the alternate cd?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !grub
[11:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:31] <gnomefreak> hockyhair: reading that ^^^
[11:31] <Ackeubu_> ^^
[11:31] <donrosin> bash: make: command not found
[11:31] <donrosin>  <-- whitch program do i need to do that?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> wth
[11:31] <gnomefreak> ^^^ that
[11:31] <Ackeubu_> gnome has three eyes
[11:31] <donrosin> chmod: changing permissions of /var/www operation not permissed
[11:31] <donrosin> i am root
[11:31] <flake> cause if you gonna play with fire and don't know how to use it, you will get burned
[11:31] <gnomefreak> donrosin: build-essential
[11:32] <gnomefreak> brb see if coffee is ready
[11:32] <javier> sorry ubuntu spanish?
[11:33] <DigitalNinja> I just connected an IPod Nano with HFS+ file system and it works
[11:33] <donrosin> gnomefreak,  why can i not chmod +x /var/www ? :S
[11:33] <DigitalNinja> I'm on ubuntu with gnome
[11:33] <javier> sorry ubuntu spanish?
[11:33] <DigitalNinja> It didn't work on xubuntu
[11:33] <DigitalNinja> why?
[11:34] <chell> Hello, everyone
[11:34] <javier> spanish???
[11:35] <chell> Hi!
[11:35] <javier> please'
[11:35] <javier> ubuntu in spanish?
[11:35] <lillpelle> javier: #ubuntu-es
[11:35] <chell> I installed XChat Gnome. How can I minimise it to tray?
[11:36] <hockyhair> ty gnomefreak
[11:36] <chell> How can I minimise xchat-gnome into my tray next to the clock?
[11:36] <Hyakutaro> hey everyone, how's it going?
[11:37] <afm\colo_> http://gnulords.org/~colo/new/index.html - what do you think of the design?
[11:37] <DigiTalk> Hello, again... Could anyone redirect me to a nice howto for using ubuntu as ISDN answering machine and fax?
[11:37] <Hyakutaro> checking
[11:38] <chell> nice design
[11:38] <eclapton> chell what do you mean?
[11:38] <hockyhair> gnomefreak: doesn't seem like a pita at all..
[11:38] <Hyakutaro> I think the menu on the right needs some work
[11:38] <Hyakutaro> and the copyright info... is not on the same level of the white border
[11:38] <hockyhair> cya!
[11:38] <DigiTalk> afm/colo_: Looks good, mir gefllts!
[11:38] <chell> Do you know xchat-gnome (that's the name of the package)? I installed it, and I'm using it right now. I'd like to minimise it so that there is only an icon next to my clock left (you can do that with Rythmbox, I believe)
[11:39] <afm\colo_> DigiTal, chell: thanks :)
[11:39] <chell> np
[11:39] <afm\colo_> Hyakutaro: what do you mean regarding the copyright notice?
[11:39] <eclapton> chell you mean you dont want it to be into the taskbar?
[11:39] <Hyakutaro> on the bottom
[11:39] <chell> yes
[11:39] <chell> no on the top
[11:40] <Hyakutaro> let me show you a screenshot
[11:40] <afm\colo_> Hyakutaro: yeah i know it's there ;) but what's wrong with it?
[11:40] <chell> So is there a way I can do that
[11:40] <Hyakutaro> its not on the same level
[11:40] <Hyakutaro> there is white space that foes under the whole thing
[11:40] <afm\colo_> with what?
[11:40] <Hyakutaro> goes *
[11:40] <Hyakutaro> hold on
[11:40] <afm\colo_> ok :D
[11:42] <HeathenDan> chell, in synaptic you can search 'xchat' and it'll have an xchat tray plugin/app
[11:42] <chell> Can I still have the xchat-gnome interface then?
[11:43] <eclapton> afm\colo_ very nice logo :D
[11:43] <afm\colo_> xchat-gnome is frightening, to say the least
[11:43] <HeathenDan> it won't hurt to try
[11:43] <chell> okay, I'm installing it now
[11:43] <mitrovarr> anyone else have trouble with synaptic and the updater?  I get random 'faileds' on files when I try to get them.  They'll work if I keep trying, but it's annoying to say the least.
[11:43] <chell> Well, I like simple programs?
[11:43] <mitrovarr> sometimes downloads halt and then fail as well
[11:43] <afm\colo_> eclapton: yeah, i'll just have to ask the original author if he allowed me to use it with my little modifiation ;)
[11:44] <HeathenDan> you may have to restart your xchat-gnome to make it work
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[11:44] <afm\colo_> ah well Hyakutaro
[11:44] <Hyakutaro> check the image
[11:44] <chell> I'm using normal xchat now
[11:44] <afm\colo_> that's actually on purpose :D
[11:44] <Hyakutaro> ah lol
[11:44] <Hyakutaro> hehe okay then
[11:44] <cactus_sediento> hello does anybody knows how to uninstall kubuntu, leaving ubuntu?
[11:44] <afm\colo_> *g*
[11:44] <Hyakutaro> clean design then, good colors :)
[11:44] <afm\colo_> do you find it distracting or sth.?
[11:44] <HeathenDan> did you check if the tray works with xchat-g?
[11:44] <Hyakutaro> kinda
[11:44] <Hyakutaro> its ok though
[11:45] <Hyakutaro> I thought it was a coding error or something :P
[11:45] <chell> I will now
[11:45] <afm\colo_> ok, i'll rather not f*ck with the CSS then...
[11:45] <Hyakutaro> yes
[11:45] <afm\colo_> chell: "vanilla" xchat is actually really nice once you took the time to make the interface look they way you want it
[11:46] <afm\colo_> it's really customizeable
[11:46] <afm\colo_> although painful to do so :)
[11:46] <chell> Well, is there an easy way to make the xchat interface look like the xchat gnome one?
[11:46] <Hyakutaro> guys I installed xfce on ubuntu yesterday, and I'd like to remove it... (I'm Gnome all the way) .. however last time I installed KDE and removed it.., but gdm wasn't set back to default... which screwed things up
[11:46] <HeathenDan> i didnt even change anything from xchat except moving the chan tabs to the top (if it wasn't there already)
[11:46] <eclapton> cactus : saludos -
[11:46] <chell> the colours are different
[11:46] <Hyakutaro> I had to go to console mode and login there and then startx
[11:46] <cactus_sediento> hola eclapton
[11:46] <HeathenDan> yes, use xchat-gnome :p
[11:46] <afm\colo_> chell: there is no such possibility, afaik
[11:46] <HeathenDan> whatever works for you
[11:47] <chell> then I'll stick with xchat-gnome
[11:47] <chell> what do I have multiple workspaces for
[11:47] <jiger> hello can anyone tell me how to execute hdparm on boot?
[11:47] <maus> Man, ubuntu is pretty nice
[11:47] <Hyakutaro> add it to sessions startup?
[11:47] <HeathenDan> to minimize to tray, you may have to right click the tray icon and choose 'minimize'
[11:47] <Korbek> :O
[11:47] <Hyakutaro> I need a good theme for Gnome... I'm stuck with Mint by Lokheed
[11:48] <Hyakutaro> got any ideas guys?
[11:48] <Korbek> I'm trying to perfect its look too
[11:48] <Korbek> gnome-look.org
[11:48] <Korbek> heh
[11:48] <HeathenDan> gorilla theme is nice
[11:48] <Hyakutaro> I need something minimal
[11:48] <Korbek> or art.gnome.com
[11:49] <sobersabre> hi, when is the kde of ubuntu going to be upon qt4 ?
[11:49] <Hyakutaro> or deviantart.com
[11:49] <eclapton> cactus_sediento I think kubuntu should be Ubuntu + kde, so, be careful if you uninstall kde, cos you may end up without any window manager
[11:49] <afm\colo_> sobersabre: well, KDE4 is based on qt4
[11:49] <chell> In gconf how can I set a password my nick should use to identify itself on the server? xchat-gnome won't let me do that in its GUI
[11:49] <Hyakutaro> LONG LIVE GTk!
[11:49] <Korbek> Dude, long live compiz
[11:49] <afm\colo_> since KDE4 released an early first preview snapshot a few days ago
[11:49] <sobersabre> is it in dapper ? ( i haven't noticed )
[11:49] <Korbek> I love it. I just cant getting it running on my s3 savage chipset lol.
[11:49] <afm\colo_> it will not before 2007, i guess
[11:49] <Shadow_pillar> :(
[11:49] <Shadow_pillar> I feel ancient
[11:50] <afm\colo_> well i remember using KDE 1
[11:50] <afm\colo_> on Mandrake :D
[11:50] <sobersabre> Shadowpillar, oh, you poor soul...
[11:50] <Hyakutaro> lol
[11:50] <eclapton> cactus_sediento I think you can install wichever desktop you want, and THEN uninstall any kde-related pacakge, pero no me hagas mucho caso, porque tampoco estoy tan empollao en Ubuntu ;)
[11:50] <Shadowpillar> man that was some ugly shit
[11:50] <Korbek> Dude I use enlightenment
[11:50] <Korbek> Typically I used too
[11:50] <Hyakutaro> I hate E
[11:50] <Korbek> E17 is hawt.
[11:50] <Hyakutaro> Gnome!
[11:50] <Shadowpillar> back in '01 and '02 many linux OSS devs didnt know eye candy if it bit them in the ass ;O
[11:50] <Hyakutaro> haha
[11:50] <Korbek> Yeah dude, linux and design has been far
[11:51] <Korbek> the orignal ubuntu theme
[11:51] <Korbek> never was too hawt
[11:51] <afm\colo_> well, look at windows 95
[11:51] <Korbek> Human icon theme is nice. but the brown color
[11:51] <Hyakutaro> or Windows XP
[11:51] <afm\colo_> that wasn't so much of a beauty, either
[11:51] <Hyakutaro> Windows XP looks like sh*t
[11:51] <Shadowpillar> It's quite a change from when I started using linux
[11:51] <Hyakutaro> Luna is the worst interface on Earth
[11:51] <chell> I'm trying to test some plugin for xchat-gnome. Can one of you please write something and mention my nick in it so I can see if I get notifed?
[11:51] <afm\colo_> windows xp looks like after a 3 years old has found a box of crayola
[11:51] <Hyakutaro> EXACTLY
[11:51] <mitrovarr> I like it.  I think I'm the only one
[11:51] <Shadowpillar> actually that would be a cool theme, a crayon theme
[11:51] <afm\colo_> chell
[11:52] <chell> mmm
[11:52] <Hyakutaro> hehe
[11:52] <Shadowpillar> someone needs to make one.
[11:52] <Hyakutaro> I want something minimal
[11:52] <chell> it didn't notify me
[11:52] <Shadowpillar> anyway
[11:52] <Hyakutaro> and I don't feel like installing flux
[11:52] <mitrovarr> I think I favor KDE out of all interfaces, but xp doesn't look THAT bad
[11:52] <Hyakutaro> any ideas?
[11:52] <chell> although I activated the proper plugin
[11:52] <afm\colo_> i've been a long term user of pekwm (it's too good to be real!) and a gtk+-desktop
[11:52] <chell> oh
[11:52] <chell>  I didn't
[11:52] <chell> ;-)
[11:52] <afm\colo_> but made the switch to KDE a few months ago
[11:52] <chell> could someone please write my nick again
[11:52] <afm\colo_> and i'm happy with it
[11:52] <afm\colo_> ok chell ;)
[11:52] <Hyakutaro> I used KDE for 2 days
[11:52] <mitrovarr> anyways, does anyone have any ideas on how to make the updater and synaptic work better if you have trouble with connections timing out?  It's a buggy USB nic, not a modem.
[11:52] <chell> mmm
[11:53] <chell> still no luck
[11:53] <chell> lol
[11:53] <chell> it automatically deactivates the plugin
[11:53] <HeathenDan> chell, you have to have xchat minimized or you're in another chan for it to notify you
[11:53] <afm\colo_> chell: that libnotify thingie actually worked for me out of the box
[11:53] <chell> I did have it minimised
[11:53] <Korbek> I need to find a good app theme
[11:53] <Shadowpillar> say
[11:53] <mitrovarr> no problems with web browsing or anything else, just synaptic and the updater.  As well as apt-get and such that uses the same backend.
[11:53] <chell> I use xchat-gnome btw
[11:53] <Shadowpillar> with the various 2.6.15 releases, what's the diff?
[11:53] <Hyakutaro> I personally think that KDE is bloated and slow, and they keep adding more and more and more... and I don't care about most of the new features
[11:53] <Hyakutaro> again I am not flaming
[11:53] <Hyakutaro> that's my opinion
[11:53] <afm\colo_> Shadowpillar: what releases are you speaking of?
[11:53] <mitrovarr> I was only talking about the appearance
[11:54] <afm\colo_> the last 2 digits?
[11:54] <eclapton> mitrovarr have you tried another mirror?
[11:54] <HeathenDan> i see... i blame xchat-gnome :p
[11:54] <mitrovarr> hmm.  No.  Maybe I should.
[11:54] <afm\colo_> Hyakutaro: though it's easy to prove it wrong, empirically ;)
[11:54] <afm\colo_> KDE is really nicely designed
[11:54] <DigiTalk> I could need some help... Could anyone point me to a nice howto for using ubuntu as ISDN answering machine and fax(server)?
[11:54] <afm\colo_> due to KParts
[11:54] <chell> I'm paying a high price for xchat-gnome's nice look, I reckon
[11:54] <afm\colo_> hehe
[11:54] <Hyakutaro> afm\colo: I'm more of a minimal person, I like simple desktops
[11:55] <afm\colo_> you should check out KDE's Konversation from SVN
[11:55] <afm\colo_> Hyakutaro: well, then i really wonder why you're using gnome ;)
[11:55] <azazzs> hi i am i little noob i have a little problem i followed this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3 i cant get the hoostnames to match "5 Configure The Network" can anybody help :)
[11:55] <Hyakutaro> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38698744/ check my desktop
[11:55] <ketsugi> Konversation for teh win
[11:55] <Hyakutaro> that's my current
[11:55] <ketsugi> Also, Kopete for teh win
[11:55] <mitrovarr> I like minimalistic ones when they go fast.  I like XFCE pretty especially.  You end up missing the features if you use them a lot, though, at least for me.
[11:55] <eclapton> anyone knows hows linux working on MACs?... it made think the look... i think MAC has a great desktop "theme"
[11:55] <Shadowpillar> afm\colo_: 2.6.15-23 2.6.15.25 2.6.26
[11:56] <Shadowpillar> er
[11:56] <DigitalNinja> my ipod is not working
[11:56] <Shadowpillar> afm\colo_: 2.6.15-23 2.6.15-25 2.6.15-16
[11:56] <afm\colo_> Shadowpillar: those refer to patchlevels (security updates and fixes)
[11:56] <mitrovarr> Personally, I *loathe* the look of OSX
[11:56] <DigitalNinja> does anyone know how to mount HFS+ file system read write
[11:56] <Shadowpillar> afields: but they're three different releases
[11:56] <pip> Hello,my sound server can't work,why ? I have just installed ubuntu
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[11:57] <chell> I like GNOMES look, especially in conjunction with that tangerine human theme
[11:57] <mitrovarr> really?  I think gnome is ugly, but it works very well functionally
[11:58] <cactus_sediento> eclapton....i had a problem...i am back
[11:58] <eclapton> si, ya lo he visto
[11:58] <chell> does anyone know the name of the "simple audio editing tool" (not audacity) they spoke about in the last ubuntu podcast episode?
[11:59] <eclapton> cactus_sediento te perdiste esto : I think you can install wichever desktop you want, and THEN uninstall any kde-related pacakge, pero no me hagas mucho caso, porque tampoco estoy tan empollao en Ubuntu ;)
[11:59] <afm\colo_> mitrovarr: i consider GNOME beautiful, witht he right engine, but i simply can't stand it as a user ;)
[11:59] <cactus_sediento> mira lo que ya hice
[11:59] <cactus_sediento> fue
[11:59] <cactus_sediento> instalar kubuntu.... y ahora lo quiero desinstalar
[12:00] <chell> I think there is a #ubuntu-es channel...
[12:00] <eclapton> i think in englesh is better, we may help the others
[12:00] <cactus_sediento> ok
[12:00] <HeathenDan> !es
[12:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:00] <eclapton> chell yeah, yure right
[12:00] <Shadowpillar> I love KDE for its professionalism, hate it because it's kinda out there when it comes to the rest of open desktop stuff
[12:00] <mitrovarr> afm\colo_:  I haven't put enough effort into customizing it, I suppose.  I just don't like the default... Orange is less a color than an atrocity, and it just doesn't look good to my eyes.  KDE looks great, but unfortunately all the menus and such are a mess (since ubuntu wasn't designed for it) so it is kind of a pain to actually use.
[12:00] <cactus_sediento> i was telling that i installed kubuntu over ubuntu
[12:00] <chell> no-one know the name of the app I described?
[12:01] <cactus_sediento> and now want to go back to ubuntu
[12:01] <cactus_sediento> for that i unisntalled libqt3-mt package
[12:01] <cactus_sediento> it unisntalled all the kde stuff
[12:02] <cactus_sediento> but i still have kubuntu when i boot
[12:02] <eclapton> cactus_sediento Look, its all based on the packages, you need some for gnome, some for kde
[12:02] <azazzs>  hi i am i little noob i have a little problem i followed this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3 i cant get the hoostnames to match "5 Configure The Network" can anybody help :)
[12:02] <HeathenDan> what did you describe chell?
[12:02] <chell> In the last ubuntu podcast episode
[12:02] <llama_> hi! since 6.06 I've the problem with k3b+growisofs that the fifo-buffer stays allways very low (0-20%) when burning dvd-isos... DMA is on for all drives... any ideas? (dvd-writer supports burnproof, so dvds are still ok -- but I don't trust this...)
[12:02] <HeathenDan> i don't listen to the ubuntu podcast
[12:02] <chell> I think it was Josh. He mentioned a simplistic audio editing tool
[12:02] <eclapton> cactus_sediento no, what you have is kdm
[12:03] <cactus_sediento> would like to uninstall also that ....to boot in ubuntu, not kubuntu
[12:03] <HeathenDan> well, you have to relisten to that podcast then
[12:03] <cactus_sediento> what should i do?
[12:03] <chell> yeah, he couldn't quite pronounce its name ;-)
[12:03] <chell> at first
[12:04] <HeathenDan> you can try looking for audio editor in synaptic
[12:04] <HeathenDan> look for a name that sounds closest to what josh said
[12:04] <eclapton> cactus_sediento
[12:04] <mkquist> cactus_sediento - cant u just boot to the gnome desktop and just keep doing that, i think what ur talking about is just the splash
[12:04] <eclapton> cactus_sediento you need the pkg gdm, you have it?
[12:05] <tim> bonjour
[12:05] <cactus_sediento> for what i need that package?
[12:05] <mkquist> cactus_sediento - prob to restore the splash and themes
[12:05] <gilad_g> hi, can someone please help me? my ubuntu decided it doesn't want to make any sound
[12:05] <eclapton> a va?
[12:05] <chell> does ALSA work
[12:05] <chell> ?
[12:05] <cactus_sediento> let me see if i have it...
[12:06] <eclapton> cactus_sediento that package is the gnome-style greeter
[12:06] <gilad_g> i guess... the system sounds (logon sound in paticular) works
[12:06] <mkquist> gilad_g - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[12:06] <eclapton> cactus_sediento well, if you want to use gnome, I mean
[12:06] <chell> so ubuntu does make sound
[12:06] <chell> is it just in one app that you don't have sound?
[12:06] <eclapton> ... dont want anybody saying im a gnome servant :)
[12:06] <gilad_g> um, yeah.. right. but amarok and wine don't
[12:07] <HeathenDan> do you have the proper codecs?
[12:07] <chell> can you play music with rythmbox
[12:07] <cactus_sediento> yes i have that package...
[12:07] <gilad_g> gaim works though
[12:07] <cactus_sediento> but the greeting is from kubuntu...not ubuntu
[12:07] <gilad_g> hang on, lemme check
[12:07] <HeathenDan> have you played music with amarok before?
[12:08] <eclapton> cactus_sediento so, you have many choices
[12:08] <gilad_g> yes, ryhtmbox works... amarok never did
[12:09] <Korbek> lol
[12:09] <eclapton> cactus_sediento you can search some configuration setup taht allows you to cahnge the greeter, or you can uninstall kdm, but dont do that if you dont know what your doing... dont do that, wait
[12:09] <Korbek> rythmbox?
[12:09] <Korbek> never herad of it
[12:09] <chell> imho amaroK uses a different package for playing music files
[12:09] <llama_> has anyone problems with k3b+growisofs that the fifo allways runs empty?
[12:09] <cactus_sediento> ok
[12:09] <chell> you might want to check out the ubuntu wiki
[12:09] <cactus_sediento> i already uninstalled....libqt3-mt package with all dependencies
[12:09] <HeathenDan> i don't use amarok
[12:10] <cactus_sediento> following an advice...
[12:10] <gilad_g> hmm.. seems that amarok plays .wav files, but not mp3s (same situation with rythmbox, too)
[12:10] <eclapton> cactus_sediento do you have gdmsetup?
[12:10] <cactus_sediento> one moment...
[12:10] <chell> have you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:10] <HeathenDan> you can't play mp3s? then you have to read chell's link
[12:11] <pharcvde> anyone using amarok?
[12:11] <DigitalNinja> Can I kill an IPod by formating it or can I put the firmware back with the software on the CD?
[12:11] <cactus_sediento> no...i can install a pachet gdmthemes
[12:11] <eclapton> gilad_g you dont have ANY prob in your install...
[12:11] <kairu0> DigitalNinja, the software from the cd will restore all the formatting for you
[12:12] <gilad_g> i havn't read this... thank you :)
[12:12] <DigitalNinja> kairu0: So I can't turn my IPod into a paper weight
[12:12] <mkquist> pharcvde im using it now to listen to stream
[12:12] <cherubiel> hello guys, i used to see the "menubar" tab in the control panel, its missing now - i am on ubuntu dapper - kde control center 3.5.2
[12:13] <eclapton> cactus_sediento but do you have gdmsetup installed ?
[12:13] <DigitalNinja> kairu0: I just want to make sure I don't brake it
[12:14] <cactus_sediento> when i search at synaptics gdmsetup....it shows just the packet gdm-themes that is not installed
[12:14] <pharcvde> mkquist are you using 1.4.2?
[12:14] <kairu0> DigitalNinja, i put it in a new, unformatted drive in mine, ran the update software, and had no problems
[12:14] <cactus_sediento> i dont see any pachet gdmsetup
[12:14] <DigitalNinja> kairu0: Thanks
[12:14] <gilad_g> MPlayer doesn't play any sound (it used to)
[12:15] <chell> I'll try GAIM for IRC now
[12:15] <chell> cya
[12:15] <HeathenDan> it's gdm
[12:15] <redondo81> I continue to have a problem at startup of my linux kubuntu.It gives me the error :File system check failed.Please repair manually"
[12:15] <kairu0> DigitalNinja, gonna run rockbox or what?
[12:15] <redondo81> I have already run fsck from live cd on the hard disk
[12:16] <redondo81> but the error is still there
[12:16] <HeathenDan> gdmsetup is a command for configuring gdm
[12:16] <DigitalNinja> kairu0: I thought about that. Maybe I will but for now I just need to get rid of the HFS+ file system
[12:16] <DeeTahPanLtah> im just wondering-in windows's firefox,pressing middle mouse button caused fancy scrolling the window. any way to do same in linux version?
[12:17] <eclapton> yeah, he has gdm, but not gdmsetup, have installed kubuntu on top of ubuntu
[12:17] <redondo81> can anyone help me please?
[12:17] <slid3r> what is the name of the app in the default gnome menu>>accessories that takes the screenshot?
[12:17] <redhand> good morning ;)
[12:17] <eclapton> HeathenDan i remember some sort of xdm setup, pointing at gdm or kdm, but dont wanna go so far... not an deb pkgs exper, i fear
[12:17] <DeeTahPanLtah> yeah,hi
[12:18] <redondo81> Can anyone help me to resolve a problem at startup?It gives me an error on the disk
[12:18] <DeeTahPanLtah> tried using recorvery mode and cast fsck?
[12:19] <redondo81> I lunched it from the live cd,I think is the same no?
[12:19] <gilad_g> ok i've installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, but still no mp3 support (MPlayer doesn't play any sound ,too)
[12:19] <HeathenDan> maybe he can try removing/reinstalling gdm
[12:19] <habeeb> Hello I have a serious GNOME problem. How can I write 2 folders in a dvd, and then burn it
[12:19] <habeeb> Throu the console?
[12:19] <habeeb> cdrecord?
[12:20] <redondo81> what can I do to resolve this problem?(File system check failed.Please repair manually)
[12:20] <MetaMorfoziS>  .
[12:20] <cactus_sediento> i can do that....thanks HeathenDan....do you think is safe?
[12:20] <HeathenDan> as long as you don't reboot midway
[12:20] <fooadd> habeeb, yeah cdrecord
[12:21] <Knoxwille> Hi. Evolution mail doesn't support gmail's non standart smtp port right?
[12:21] <gilad_g> can someone please help?
[12:21] <habeeb> fooadd: options? and how do I say to burn 2 folders? Using a ; ?
[12:21] <habeeb> fooadd: I know how to burn an iso with cdrecord but not data folders.
[12:21] <cactus_sediento> ok i ll try that....do you agree eclapton?
[12:21] <Jormundgand> Hi, I'm using an EI Systems 3083 laptop and am considering installing Ubuntu on it, but when I tried the LiveCD the wifi stick I'm using apparently wasn't recognised. Should I consider this a major fault?
[12:21] <fooadd> habeeb, make an iso of them yeah
[12:21] <HeathenDan> i have evolution working with gmail pop server
[12:22] <habeeb> fooadd: There is no other way?
[12:22] <HeathenDan> what seems to be your problem with evolution and gmail?
[12:22] <frogzoo> redondo81: fsck -a    is about all you can do, but if that doesn't work, you're sol
[12:22] <redondo81> I'll try now,thanks
[12:22] <fooadd> habeeb, check this out http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialCDBurn.html
[12:22] <Knoxwille> there is no problem with pop mail (getting) but I can't send mail
[12:22] <frogzoo> redondo81: and in future, don't power off while the disk is active
[12:22] <HeathenDan> i can send fine too
[12:23] <lobajotodo> hi people
[12:23] <redondo81> It's very strange,but I didn't do it
[12:23] <samuel> #ubuntu-it
[12:23] <k31th> will a du -ks /home/blah tell you home much is in there? INCLUDING the places it sym links to ?
[12:23] <lobajotodo> i have a problem with my ntfs sata raid
[12:23] <lobajotodo> can someone helpme?
[12:23] <Knoxwille> ok I'll check my setup
[12:24] <Axelh> Anyone know what I might've done wrong? I can no longer boot into graphics mode and all I can remember doing was reinstalling gnome/nautilius before it.
[12:24] <Hyakutaro> I can't seem to install multimedia condecs
[12:24] <Hyakutaro> after a clean format
[12:24] <habeeb> As I said I cant open fooadd sites.
[12:24] <eclapton> cactus-sediento well, yes, but, if you get lost in a black screen, log in and key in gnome-session, that should turn on your gnome, so you can try to install again gdm, by the way if your going to that, try uninstalling kdm and installing gdm after, before anything else
[12:24] <Hyakutaro> it keeps telling me that gstreamer can't be foun
[12:24] <fooadd> Axelh, maybe you removed xserver-xorg, I had an issue with it when I reinstalled gnome days ago
[12:24] <HeathenDan> do you need help setting evolution to send with gmail?
[12:25] <habeeb> fooadd: Well, I can. But I've already read this page. It doesnt help me on how to burn more than one things.
[12:25] <fooadd> habeeb, you can't open the link I gave you ?
[12:25] <habeeb> fooadd: I just did, with links.
[12:25] <wailo> hello all ubuntu mates
[12:25] <wailo> i would like to ask only 1 question
[12:25] <fooadd> habeeb, ohh I see
[12:25] <wailo> 1 only, hope ppl can help me
[12:25] <cactus_sediento> ok..thanks eclapton and HeathenDan....will tell you later how it was...:-)
[12:25] <wailo> my question is "how to remove launchpad integration?"
[12:25] <HeathenDan> good luck
[12:25] <Knoxwille> Oh it is my stupidity! gmail's smtp adress is smtp.gmail. com I've wrote mail.gmail.com that's wrong!
[12:25] <Axelh> Foadd, what would be the solution then? (Quite unexperienced in Ubuntu.) Neither do I have a live CD to use (Installed from HD)
[12:26] <habeeb> fooadd: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc <folder> ? :/
[12:26] <Knoxwille> now its work thanks
[12:26] <fooadd> Axelh, what does dpkg -l xserver-xorg  outputs?
[12:26] <chell> hiya
[12:26] <HeathenDan> lol
[12:26] <Knoxwille> :)
[12:26] <eclapton> cactus OK
[12:26] <chell> gaim rules
[12:26] <Axelh> I would have to reboot my for this. Rather gather some more information first, going to write down that command though.
[12:27] <HeathenDan> well, as long as it works now, it's all good
[12:27] <fooadd> habeeb,  growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=2 -Z /dev/dvd -R -J -pad /dir-path/file1 /dir-path/file2
[12:27] <chell> no need for xchat anymore
[12:27] <HeathenDan> lol
[12:27] <chell> one thing tough. How can I setup spellcheck for differen languages in GAIM?
[12:27] <HeathenDan> i still prefer xchat
[12:28] <SkyNeT> ok am back
[12:28] <SkyNeT> i def and trying to install it one a gane
[12:28] <SkyNeT> and it say error
[12:29] <Jormundgand> Hi, I'm using an EI Systems 3083 laptop and am considering installing Ubuntu on it, but when I tried the LiveCD the wifi stick I'm using apparently wasn't recognised. Should I consider this a major fault, or will it work if I install Ubuntu to the hard drive?
[12:29] <detectiveinspekt> trying to install dapper, got no mouse so can't click that install icon.
[12:29] <SkyNeT> can any one help me with the partiting for installing ubuntu
[12:30] <redondo81> Nothing ,I lunch fsck and it repairs the disk, but at sturtup the error continues
[12:30] <SkyNeT> i keep getting error
[12:30] <HeathenDan> Jormundgand, you may have to use a workaround to get your wifi to work in ubuntu
[12:30] <redondo81> I have to press ctrl-d and then all is ok, but every time I lunch linux I have to pass throught this error
[12:31] <chell> can someone mention my name please to test GAIMs notification
[12:31] <Jormundgand> Ah, okay.
[12:31] <HeathenDan> what error redondo81?
[12:31] <mkquist> chell
[12:31] <fooadd> chell, chill out dude!:P
[12:31] <mkquist> gone
[12:31] <fooadd> lol
[12:31] <mkquist> chell
[12:31] <redondo81> The file system check is failed.Please repair manually
[12:31] <HeathenDan> chell chell chell chell chell chell
[12:31] <chell> can you do that again please
[12:31] <mkquist> lol
[12:31] <chell> wait
[12:32] <fooadd> hahah
[12:32] <redondo81> every time this error at startup
[12:32] <chell> Did I leave the channel
[12:32] <fooadd> chell, yeah :P
[12:32] <HeathenDan> which filesystem? fat32 or your root?
[12:32] <eclapton> hahaha
[12:32] <chell> can you do it again pls
[12:32] <HeathenDan> chell chell chell chell chell chell
[12:32] <redondo81> my root
[12:32] <fooadd> chell, get a life :p
[12:32] <redondo81> ext3
[12:32] <chell> ;-)
[12:32] <chell> it works
[12:32] <eclapton> chell chell chell chell chell chell
[12:32] <chell> enough
[12:32] <eclapton> there you go
[12:32] <chell> enough
[12:32] <HeathenDan> lol
[12:32] <eclapton> one more time ....
[12:33] <redondo81> I dont understand because the error continues also after I launched fsck
[12:33] <HeathenDan> nick highlighting and notification works in xchat just fine :p
[12:33] <Awesome-o2000> you heathen
[12:33] <eclapton> yep
[12:33] <SkyNeT> can any one tell me why resize ide1 master partition #1 (hdal) use freed
[12:34] <SkyNeT> show 56% it showing i hit next
[12:34] <fooadd> SkyNeT, why don't you just use gparted and partition your hd as you like, then run the installer (??)
[12:34] <SkyNeT> fooadd
[12:34] <chell> How can I change the language GAIM uses for its spellcheck function?
[12:34] <SkyNeT> wehre is gparted
[12:35] <fooadd> SkyNeT, doesn't it come installed with ubuntu CD ?
[12:35] <jacques> I'll be back
[12:35] <SkyNeT> where do i look on the live cd
[12:35] <freshmouse> Hello. What do you think about packages from Debian? Is it right to use Debian's packages in Ubuntu? Friends told me that I shouldn't use it, but when I open Sources in Synaptic, there is this example (example of adding repository): "deb http://ftp.debian.org sarge main". Thanks.
[12:35] <SkyNeT> am try to get ubuntu in stalled
[12:36] <fooadd> freshmouse, it's not good to mix pkgs from Debian, but I do it all the time :P
[12:36] <eclapton> redondo wht is the line on your /etc/fstab four that disk?
[12:36] <mkquist> caused my some dependency probs
[12:36] <eclapton> wht
[12:36] <raster> like mixing pepper in your iced coffee
[12:36] <eclapton> what coio
[12:36] <mkquist> debian packages
[12:36] <raster> possible
[12:36] <raster> but yucky
[12:36] <cactus_sediento> eclapton , HeatherDan i am back...kdm was already uninstalled.....but i removed it completely....gdm was already installed but i uninstalled it and reinstalled it....then reboot......situation is the same.....at the begining kubuntu stufff (loading drivers, mounting..kernel, etc) after that ubuntu login
[12:36] <fooadd> SkyNeT, type gparted , does it show up ?
[12:37] <freshmouse> fooadd: And without problems? :-)
[12:37] <fooadd> freshmouse, yup, no probelmas till now :)  but you never know ;)
[12:37] <SkyNeT> where do i find gpart ?
[12:37] <cactus_sediento> At least system is till working  :-)
[12:37] <eclapton> cactus - you mean the splash at bootup???
[12:38] <cactus_sediento> splash?
[12:38] <fooadd> SkyNeT, there is Live CD that you can download from gparted's site
[12:38] <mkquist> skynet, not sure exaclty what its called, but basically the start button, utilities or system should be in one of those
[12:38] <cactus_sediento> first image....
[12:38] <HeathenDan> weird... when i uninstalled kubuntu-desktop, after a few tweaks gdm starts ok except for the kubuntu splash
[12:38] <fooadd> SkyNeT, or use cfdisk to partition your hd
[12:38] <eclapton> cactus yes, the screen under wich the kernel shows messages...
[12:38] <eclapton> that means nothing
[12:38] <cactus_sediento> gdm starts...i think....
[12:38] <mkquist> cactus_sediento - just change the splash/login screens to what u want
[12:38] <cactus_sediento> the login of gnome is ok
[12:38] <SkyNeT> cfdish
[12:39] <SkyNeT> cfdisk
[12:39] <fooadd> cfdisk*
[12:39] <SkyNeT> what is that
[12:39] <cactus_sediento> jjust the initial stuff
[12:39] <HeathenDan> just ignore kubuntu splash... read the output... it's likely that it's gdm that loading
[12:39] <mkquist> cactus_sediento - ur still using ubuntu
[12:39] <kent> how do i blacklist a driver so that I can use ndiswrapper insteaf of my Asus WL-167g driver in edgy?
[12:39] <fooadd> SkyNeT, curses-based disk partitioner
[12:39] <eclapton> do ps -ax | grep gdm at a terminal window
[12:39] <SkyNeT> where do i get this
[12:40] <cactus_sediento> so the splash is kubuntu...but the functionality ubuntu?
[12:40] <mkquist> cactus_sediento right
[12:40] <fooadd> SkyNeT, grrrrr, are you really trying to install ubuntu ??
[12:40] <SkyNeT> yes
[12:40] <SkyNeT> i am
[12:40] <SkyNeT> and i keep getting error
[12:40] <mkquist> stkynet - ur on a live cd right?
[12:40] <eclapton> man its just an image...
[12:40] <SkyNeT> yes
[12:40] <SkyNeT> right now on live cd
[12:40] <fooadd> cool!
[12:41] <fooadd> run the installer, and it will allow you to partition
[12:41] <mkquist> skynet - then use gparted, its in the menus, like in system or utilities
[12:41] <DeeTahPanLtah> is there any way to turn off usplash?
[12:41] <SkyNeT> lolz
[12:41] <SkyNeT> i ran the cd
[12:41] <SkyNeT> and ran the install
[12:41] <SkyNeT> i get error
[12:41] <fooadd> mkquist, I told them  that, but it seems he can't find it or "cfdisk"
[12:41] <SkyNeT> at the partition part
[12:41] <mkquist> skynet - then just dont let the installer partition
[12:41] <cactus_sediento> so it is just an esthetic stufff.....anyhow a way of  setting the splash to ubuntu splash is posible?
[12:41] <mkquist> skynet - its there, just look in the menus, its kinda buried
[12:42] <mkquist> cactus_sediento - u can make it anything u want
[12:42] <mkquist> cactus_sediento - its all customizeable
[12:42] <cactus_sediento> how?
[12:42] <eclapton> cactus lets see, you mean exctly which screen: 1-first screen at boot, 2- login screen; 3 - image while entering to desktop
[12:43] <HeathenDan> learn to live with the kubuntu splash
[12:43] <looktj> is sethk on?
[12:43] <HeathenDan> :p
[12:43] <freshmouse> And has someone other experiecnce with mixing Debian and Ubuntu packages?
[12:43] <cactus_sediento> first screen at boot
[12:43] <eclapton> cactus, well or 0 - image in operativ system chooser
[12:43] <DeeTahPanLtah> freshmouse: yeah,i did. worked...
[12:43] <SkyNeT> am losted
[12:43] <SkyNeT> it sould partition it all by
[12:43] <fooadd> freshmouse, why not just compile from source, if you're afraid to mix?? I told you I mix all the time, I get my respo from apt-get.org
[12:43] <SkyNeT> it self will installing
[12:43] <fooadd> repos*
[12:43] <SkyNeT> should
[12:44] <freshmouse> fooadd: OK, I understand...
[12:44] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT: whats ur problem?
[12:44] <eclapton> chell bye |D
[12:44] <mkquist> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835&highlight=changed+splash+screen
[12:44] <SkyNeT> i running the live cd
[12:45] <SkyNeT> i cick on instiall
[12:45] <cactus_sediento> eclapton option 1 first screen at boot.....
[12:45] <SkyNeT> then i get all the way to set 5
[12:45] <SkyNeT> where you partition
[12:45] <ThomAnnatar> yes
[12:45] <cactus_sediento> the grub is ok
[12:45] <mkquist> cactus_sediento - check that link
[12:45] <mkquist> cactus_sediento might help
[12:45] <SkyNeT> the bar go to 56%
[12:45] <SkyNeT> then i lick farward
[12:45] <SkyNeT> then i get a error
[12:45] <cactus_sediento> thanks mkquist
[12:45] <ThomAnnatar> what error?
[12:45] <mkquist> cactus_sediento - np
[12:46] <SkyNeT> saying there is not anought pace
[12:46] <SkyNeT> or somthing like that
[12:46] <chell> Hi
[12:46] <eclapton> cactus_sediento if gdmsetup works, you can make it wichever you want, even your pets photo
[12:46] <SkyNeT> and there lots of space
[12:46] <yanpeng> test
[12:46] <SkyNeT> 40 GB harddrive
[12:46] <SkyNeT> with windows xo
[12:46] <SkyNeT> xp on it
[12:46] <mkquist> chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell chell
[12:46] <SkyNeT> fat32
[12:46] <mkquist> lol
[12:46] <yanpeng> is anyone here?
[12:46] <looktj> SkyNeT: dual booting on a drive with 40 GB is bad
[12:46] <mkquist> =P
[12:47] <DigitalNinja> I think I just broke my ipod
[12:47] <cactus_sediento> let see now it gdmsetup works....
[12:47] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT ur installing linux on a fat32 drive?
[12:47] <SkyNeT> yes
[12:47] <ThomAnnatar> Thats not that smart :P
[12:47] <ThomAnnatar> it wont do it
[12:47] <mkquist> looktj - whats wrong w/dual boot?
[12:47] <ThomAnnatar> you want a duel boot system?
[12:47] <ThomAnnatar> dual?
[12:47] <SkyNeT> yes
[12:47] <raster> duol
[12:47] <chell> Does anyone know how you spell "djacosha" (just listened to the Ubuntu podcast. I'm looking for that program (it's an audi editing tool))
[12:48] <SkyNeT> yes duol boot i want
[12:48] <looktj> SkyNet: open terminal, type sudo gparted
[12:48] <looktj> lol
[12:48] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT: you need to make ur fat drive 20 gig and make a new linux partition of 20 gig and then it works fine :O
[12:48] <mkquist> skynet- you only have one partition?
[12:48] <SkyNeT> what a termainal
[12:49] <HeathenDan> what ep are you listening? the 082706 one?
[12:49] <SkyNeT> yes one partition
[12:49] <SkyNeT> right now
[12:49] <ThomAnnatar> Aplications -> Assesoires -> Terminal
[12:49] <SkyNeT> that all 40GB
[12:49] <looktj> like a command prompt
[12:49] <SkyNeT> am in ubuntu
[12:49] <SkyNeT> wehre do i look for that
[12:49] <SkyNeT> am on live cd
[12:49] <bimberi> chell: Jokosher
[12:49] <looktj> Aplications -> Assesoires -> Terminal
[12:49] <ThomAnnatar> TSkyNeT: Aplications -> Assesoires -> Terminal !!!!
[12:50] <SkyNeT> ok
[12:50] <SkyNeT> open now what
[12:50] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT: i reccomend you use only linux and remove ur windows partition !
[12:50] <mkquist> skynet - is windows already installed?
[12:50] <looktj> Thomannatar: how do i resize my ntfs partition
[12:50] <SkyNeT> no i need windows
[12:50] <chell> cheers mate
[12:50] <SkyNeT> my work on it
[12:51] <SkyNeT> yes windows is all ready installed
[12:51] <SkyNeT> and in defraged
[12:51] <bimberi> chell: np
[12:51] <mkquist> skynet, then ull prob need to reinstall or use partition magic to resize the windows partition
[12:51] <ThomAnnatar> looktj i dont know if there are anny linux programs that could do the trick but there are programs on windows that could do the trick
[12:51] <deep> looktj: QTparted. :)
[12:51] <chell> mmm
[12:51] <chell> it doesn't seem to be in the dapper repos only edgy
[12:51] <looktj> SkyNet i suggest backing up windows to try ubuntu
[12:51] <mkquist> skynet - cause u really need two partitions, one for windows and one for ubuntu
[12:51] <loupgaroublond> i have an isa sound card, which only works when i type in 'sudo modprobe snd-cs4236' , is there any way i can have ubuntu make sure this module is loaded at boot up, as it is not automatically detected?
[12:52] <looktj> deep: i got gparted
[12:52] <chell> which is kinda bad because I am not too good at compiling etc
[12:52] <chell> but there is a .deb
[12:52] <caci> loupgaroublond: /etc/modules
[12:52] <chell> I guess I'll try that
[12:52] <ThomAnnatar> looktj again i dont reccomdend you resize ur partitions.. make a new windows instalation is way better (and why even use windows linux can do everything?)
[12:52] <mkquist> skynet - windows should be first, makes life easier, then install ubuntu on the remaining partition
[12:52] <chell> damn
[12:52] <loupgaroublond> caci, can you elaborate with a couple more words ;)
[12:52] <deep> looktj: Then its not so hard. Just fire it up, choose your disk, and resize. You'll know when you start it. :)
[12:52] <chell> I need python-central
[12:52] <SkyNeT> am lost :(
[12:52] <bimberi> loupgaroublond: add it to /etc/modules
[12:53] <mkquist> skynet - why?
[12:53] <looktj> ThomAnnatar: linux lacks usage of games
[12:53] <mkquist> skynet - what are u lost on?
[12:53] <SkyNeT> will they told me
[12:53] <caci> loupgaroublond: man 5 modules *g*
[12:53] <looktj> and photoshop
[12:53] <SkyNeT> i can do this with unbuntu
[12:53] <ThomAnnatar> looktj: then only play games that run on linux ;)
[12:53] <caci> loupgaroublond: add a line with the name of your module to that file
[12:53] <loupgaroublond> bimberi, i thought that was deprecated in favor of fancy autodetecting frameworks years ago :/
[12:53] <ThomAnnatar> looktj: or wine it :D
[12:53] <mkquist> skynet - no resize ntfs
[12:53] <kelenius> {|C:| primary} {|E:| |5GB| |ext3| |swap| |D:| logical} How can I merge 5GB of empty space with Ubuntu's ext3 partition? Gparted live cd gives me some strange error, something about X...
[12:53] <SkyNeT> load the love cd
[12:53] <SkyNeT> hit install
[12:53] <mkquist> skynet - which windows? xp?
[12:53] <maki> hello
[12:54] <bimberi> loupgaroublond: probably, but i have a long memory ;)
[12:54] <looktj> i guess ill delete my windows partition
[12:54] <SkyNeT> it not ntfs
[12:54] <SkyNeT> it fat32
[12:54] <amorphous_> i'm having problems with apt. i had realplayr & tried to apt-get helixplayer. helix wont install - cant replace libgtkhx.mo - used by realplayer. now i'm in catch 22. cant do anything with either. anyone know a way out?
[12:54] <looktj> since the whole drive is 40 GB
[12:54] <mkquist> skynet - which windows?
[12:54] <bimberi> loupgaroublond: or do you mean isa ;p
[12:54] <SkyNeT> xp home
[12:54] <ThomAnnatar> looktj: smart move ^^
[12:55] <loupgaroublond> bimberi, well, i remember they discouraged that in debian a long time ago, and yes, it is an isa card
[12:55] <ThomAnnatar> looktj: what games u play?
[12:55] <looktj> gunz
[12:55] <SkyNeT> xp home
[12:55] <ThomAnnatar> thats not winable :p
[12:55] <ThomAnnatar> wineable :P
[12:55] <brooklyn> wow - people are awake???
[12:55] <ThomAnnatar> i tried for 5 days and its not working on linux
[12:55] <looktj> idc ill go buy a desktop to use xp pro on
[12:56] <looktj> or new drive
[12:56] <brooklyn> looktj: why do u want xp
[12:56] <loupgaroublond> caci, thanks
[12:56] <loupgaroublond> bimberi, thanks
[12:56] <SkyNeT> has all my work
[12:56] <SkyNeT> on it for work
[12:56] <SkyNeT> lolz
[12:56] <ThomAnnatar> brooklyn: he wants to play games :P
[12:56] <looktj> brooklyn: for gunz
[12:56] <OmegaNine> !laptop
[12:56] <amorphous_> cannot install or remove helix or realplay. have removed libgtkhx.mo (fool) and still no joy
[12:56] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[12:56] <looktj> SkyNet: go get a dvd to burn your xp drive to
[12:56] <bimberi> loupgaroublond: np, sry if i seemed a bit flippant
[12:57] <hume> anyone around here that use a time tracker that works well in ubuntu, or, if used on a PDA, can sych with ubuntu?
[12:57] <looktj> Blank dvd
[12:57] <SkyNeT> i have a dvd burner
[12:57] <loupgaroublond> bimberi, nope, it's a solution, i just compare ubuntu to what i had to do with debian
[12:57] <SkyNeT> no how many cd that will take
[12:57] <SkyNeT> 3 cd and then what do i do with they cd
[12:58] <enum-> ...
[12:58] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT: burn only the files you need to save on the dvd..
[12:58] <kelenius> Help request! {|C:| primary} {|E:| |5GB| |ext3| |swap| |D:| logical} How can I merge 5GB of empty space with Ubuntu's ext3 partition? Gparted live cd gives me some strange error, something about X...
[12:58] <SkyNeT> that ubuntu was to be easy
[12:58] <brooklyn> well. thats true. if you want to play video games, it will take some work for it to work on linux :P
[12:58] <SkyNeT> to work run and us
[12:58] <SkyNeT> i want to run my server
[12:58] <SkyNeT> off ubuntu
[12:58] <brooklyn> SkyNet: are you trying to install ubuntu?
[12:58] <mkquist> skynet - hes saying just back up any files u need,
[12:58] <looktj> use lampp
[12:59] <SkyNeT> yes brooklyn
[12:59] <pharcvde> google = skynet 1.0
[12:59] <brooklyn> SkyNet: burn the .iso from ubuntu.com - burn it, boot your  computer up from CD rom, run the Live cd, and from there you can install.
[01:00] <looktj> brooklyn : youy idiot, he on the live cd
[01:00] <mkquist> brooklyn - i think hes on the live cd now
[01:00] <mkquist> lol
[01:00] <amorphous_> nobody know a way out of apt catch22 - i can't remove or install realplay or helix?!?!?
[01:00] <SkyNeT> am on live cd
[01:00] <SkyNeT> it don;t work
[01:00] <SkyNeT> lolz
[01:00] <brooklyn> ok, if your on the live cd, whats it doing thats wrong :P
[01:00] <looktj> aptitude remove?
[01:00] <mkquist> skynet - well, u can try to use gparted or qtparted to resize the windows partition, but id back up anything u care about first
[01:00] <brooklyn> looktj: and i just woke up - i didnt know he was on the live cd.
[01:00] <looktj> brooklyn: partition
[01:00] <Bazzi> amorph_: I'm having the same problem with python2.3 some dpkg magic will help
[01:01] <looktj> sorry brooklyn
[01:01] <Bazzi> amorphous_*
[01:01] <ThomAnnatar> kelenius: your running dual boot?
[01:01] <mkquist> skynet- and dont be too surprised if u need to reinstall windows
[01:01] <SkyNeT> lolz
[01:01] <mkquist> skynet - u know how to install windows?
[01:01] <SkyNeT> yes
[01:01] <amorphous_> Bazzi, dpkg magic?
[01:01] <SkyNeT> i no how to format
[01:01] <SkyNeT> and Fdisj
[01:01] <SkyNeT> disk
[01:01] <SkyNeT> but gezzzzzzzz
[01:01] <SkyNeT> this piss me off
[01:02] <Bazzi> amorphous_: yep you can force dpkg to get rid of it (thats what I hope at least)
[01:02] <linuchsan> SkyNeT:Why dont you resize your partition with a tool like partition magic
[01:02] <SkyNeT> pertition magice did ant work
[01:02] <SkyNeT> for me i try it
[01:02] <SkyNeT> and i mess up
[01:02] <SkyNeT> ro it just did no like me
[01:02] <kelenius> thomannatar: not sure. if you mean that i can boot either from winxp or ubuntu, then yes
[01:02] <jenda> Is there a color grabber tool for ubuntu? (I know there is... what's the name... !lart my memory)
[01:02] <raster> just backup your homedir
[01:02] <raster> on another box
[01:02] <amorphous_> Bazzi, ok - best i start reading up on dpkg then, eh? - thanks Bazzi
[01:03] <SkyNeT> kelenius
[01:03] <raster> re-partition with a windows partiiton as partiion #1 (or window swill be most unhappy)
[01:03] <Bazzi> yep
[01:03] <raster> iunstall xp
[01:03] <raster> then re-install ubunutu
[01:03] <kelenius> skynet
[01:03] <SkyNeT> hey is there a way to turn a fat32
[01:03] <brooklyn> im with raster :P
[01:03] <mkquist> no
[01:03] <SkyNeT> in to a nfts or what ever
[01:03] <looktj> lol erase whole drive
[01:03] <raster> post-installing windows to dual boot into after u have another os on the box
[01:03] <SkyNeT> from windows xp
[01:03] <raster> is asking for pain and poo
[01:03] <looktj> yea
[01:03] <looktj> reformat
[01:03] <mkquist> skynet - thats not ur prob
[01:03] <raster> wiondwos itself will just wipe out your bootblock
[01:03] <raster> withotu a resuce disk
[01:03] <SkyNeT> :(
[01:03] <OmegaNine> Humph.  Anyone know a good howto on getting the battery life back from ubuntu?
[01:03] <chell> gotta go... cya
[01:03] <raster> u will never fix it to boot into linux again
[01:03] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT this is what you should do: Save all your inportant files somewhere... then put your windows cd in your computer .. in the windows format thingy make only a drive of 20gigs for windows.. after u installed windows.. put the ubuntu live cd in the computer and install unbuntuon remaining disk space
[01:03] <SkyNeT> will it look like it don;t like fat32
[01:03] <raster> windows has n respect for other os installs
[01:03] <raster> when it installs
[01:04] <looktj> brb gonna go on live cd to resize my ubuntu partition
[01:04] <mkquist> skynet - that really ur best bet, and windows runs so nice new...
[01:04] <ThomAnnatar> kelenius: try partition magic to do the trick
[01:04] <raster> ThomAnnatar: first re-boot ubutun with the installer
[01:04] <raster> and re-parition
[01:04] <brooklyn> skynet: make a partition for windows first(or its not happy with you:P ) then install ubuntu on any remaining disk space
[01:04] <raster> with a window sparititon as the first one
[01:04] <raster> then save the partition
[01:04] <raster> and abort the install
[01:04] <kelenius> partition magic can't resize ext3
[01:04] <raster> save the partition table
[01:04] <ThomAnnatar> raster: my way is easyer :P and it works
[01:04] <SkyNeT> yes i no it run very nice new
[01:05] <SkyNeT> i formated my windows xp
[01:05] <ThomAnnatar> kelenius: then ur fucked i dont know :O
[01:05] <SkyNeT> 3 weeks a go
[01:05] <SkyNeT> and have a crap load of stuff and work
[01:05] <SkyNeT> on the computer
[01:05] <raster> ThomAnnatar: last i saw xpm didnt let yuou choose how big to make your drive
[01:05] <SkyNeT> so formatting it
[01:05] <raster> if it found a partition with a dos id
[01:05] <SkyNeT> and save it all
[01:05] <mkquist> skynet - then there is ur answer
[01:05] <raster> it filled it
[01:05] <SkyNeT> gezzzzzzzzz
[01:05] <raster> thats it
[01:05] <raster> no choices
[01:05] <raster> if it didnt
[01:05] <SkyNeT> i be stupid
[01:05] <raster> it was most unhappy
[01:05] <SkyNeT> or grezzzzzz
[01:05] <brooklyn> raster: it doesnt give you a size option? - eww.....
[01:05] <pharcvde> has anyone been succesful in getting itunes on a cell phone to work in linux?
[01:05] <raster> brooklyn:  not that i remember
[01:05] <mkquist> skynet - then u could dual boot xp/linux
[01:06] <ThomAnnatar> raster: on windows xp cd cant partition??? thats weird
[01:06] <raster> brooklyn: as i KNOW i was forced to find a linux install disk in order to partition and set up a disk for a window sinstall before
[01:06] <raster> as windows couldnt do it
[01:06] <raster> (xp)
[01:06] <SkyNeT> ok tell me this
[01:06] <raster> ThomAnnatar: as i said
[01:06] <SkyNeT> and i my format
[01:06] <raster> my memory tells me that i resorted to a linux install cd to partition FOR a windows install
[01:06] <brooklyn> raster: ah.. lol i dont even mess with windows anymore. my entire drive is dedicated to linux.. to many hassles
[01:06] <SkyNeT> 20 GB frist of windows
[01:06] <raster> if windwos coulding find a pre-paritioned disk
[01:06] <SkyNeT> then there 20GB left
[01:06] <mkquist> skynet - right
[01:06] <raster> with a dos id
[01:06] <raster> for c:
[01:06] <mkquist> skynet - right for linux
[01:06] <raster> it decided it had nowehere to install
[01:06] <raster> and gave up
[01:07] <SkyNeT> do i make a partition for the other 20 GB
[01:07] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT: NO !
[01:07] <SkyNeT> if so Fat32
[01:07] <brooklyn> no
[01:07] <SkyNeT> or what ?
[01:07] <mkquist> skynet - let linux do it
[01:07] <raster> brooklyn: same - only 1 box has windows on it as a seconday bnoot
[01:07] <mkquist> skynet - itll be ext 3
[01:07] <raster> and i keep it only for a very few things
[01:07] <brooklyn> skynet: ubuntu will make a parititon for you, ext3
[01:07] <raster> evrythnig else is pure linux
[01:07] <mkquist> skynet - throw in a second drive and format it fat32 and u could share between widows and linux
[01:08] <mkquist> skynet - use that to store ur files
[01:08] <brooklyn> yea, that way you dont loose anything, and linux is alone :)
[01:08] <ThomAnnatar> mkquist: he could make his C drive fat32 so he can reach that drive from linux and write to it ;)
[01:08] <mkquist> thomannatar - true
[01:08] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT why you want linux?
[01:08] <pandamonium> i've got a problem with firefox and i don't know where to start looking to see what's wrong
[01:09] <SkyNeT> what is have of 40GB
[01:09] <mkquist> i just dont like to store on the system partition
[01:09] <raster> ThomAnnatar: i agree
[01:09] <ThomAnnatar> pandamonium: whats the problem?
[01:09] <SkyNeT> in mb
[01:09] <grimboy> pandamonium, What's the problem?
[01:09] <pandamonium> basically it keeps on closing itself
[01:09] <raster> make it fat32
[01:09] <raster> so its accessible
[01:09] <mkquist> have to reformat and u might lose stuff
[01:09] <grimboy> ThomAnnatar, Wow.
[01:09] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT: why you want linux?????????
[01:09] <SkyNeT> to run my server
[01:09] <SkyNeT> i have a server on windows
[01:09] <SkyNeT> but fuk
[01:09] <OmegaNine> Is there a 686 CD iso out there?
[01:09] <SkyNeT> woops
[01:09] <mkquist> why not?
[01:09] <mkquist> lol
[01:09] <SkyNeT> it sucks
[01:09] <pandamonium> it just shuts down when i'm making blog entries or forum entries
[01:09] <SkyNeT> on windows xp
[01:09] <OmegaNine> !686
[01:09] <SkyNeT> i here it works good on linux
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 686 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT: buy a new or seccond hand computer to launch a server !! :P
[01:10] <grimboy> pandamonium, What extensions do you have installed?
[01:10] <raster> y7eah
[01:10] <SkyNeT> no my computer
[01:10] <SkyNeT> good
[01:10] <raster> i dont understand a dual-boot server
[01:10] <SkyNeT> i can do it all
[01:10] <raster> a server is turned on
[01:10] <raster> and sdtas on
[01:10] <raster> doesnt reboot
[01:10] <brooklyn> SkyNet: if i were in your shoes, i would just buy another HD and have the option to boot to whichever one you want to.
[01:10] <raster> until one day the hardware dies
[01:10] <pandamonium> grimboy, english (gb) language pack
[01:10] <SkyNeT> raster mean 2 oprated systoms
[01:11] <raster> thats how it (should) work
[01:11] <SkyNeT> on it
[01:11] <raster> dual boot makes no sense for a server
[01:11] <mormoloc> how do i install windows font on u.....u :)? what package?
[01:11] <grimboy> pandamonium, Is that it?
[01:11] <raster> why do u want 2?
[01:11] <raster> if u are going to be running 1 of them 24/7?
[01:11] <ThomAnnatar> mormoloc: www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:11] <pandamonium> grimboy, yes
[01:12] <SkyNeT> my be all just wait tell i need to format
[01:12] <SkyNeT> my computer
[01:12] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT: use a seccond PC and install Debian.. thats way better for a server.. debian is made for end user interface ;)
[01:12] <SkyNeT> and remaber to do it
[01:12] <phreakoutaston> hi.  very close to getting my DWL-G122 B1 wireless-lan card to work, just need a bit more help
[01:12] <ThomAnnatar> when you install windows resize it to 20gigs and let linux deside what he should do with the other 20 gigs (thats all)
[01:13] <SkyNeT> yeah
[01:13] <SkyNeT> and here i want ubuntu
[01:13] <ThomAnnatar> its quite easy
[01:13] <grimboy> pandamonium, Hmm... all I can think of is try searching for swiftfox (a cpu arch optimised firefox) and install it over firefox using dpkg. That may or may not work. Also try getting the sessionsaver extension, it help revive from crashes.
[01:13] <SkyNeT> try to get this work
[01:13] <SkyNeT> all night and it 5 am
[01:13] <SkyNeT> lolz
[01:13] <SkyNeT> gezzz
[01:13] <phreakoutaston> 5am?  where are u?
[01:13] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT: Trust me buy a new pc ^^
[01:14] <frogzoo> grimboy: I've seen reports of breakage with swiftfox
[01:14] <SkyNeT> yep
[01:14] <SkyNeT> why would i need a new pc
[01:14] <SkyNeT> this one like new o most
[01:14] <grimboy> frogzoo, Well, yeah, but it's already broken.
[01:14] <SkyNeT> work good fast as hell
[01:14] <SkyNeT> i have hi speed hi
[01:14] <SkyNeT> internet
[01:14] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT for the server (then you can run it 24/7) and you only need wel uhm a pentium 1 would do the trick just fine
[01:14] <ThomAnnatar> SkyNeT especialy when you dont run X
[01:15] <pandamonium> thanks grimboy will try that. i do know that threatening it with a hammer and swearing at it doesn't work but lacking the knowledge that's all i could think of
[01:15] <SkyNeT> what is x
[01:15] <ThomAnnatar> Graphical interface
[01:15] <ThomAnnatar> Now i need a smoke
[01:15] <pandamonium> what i do know is nothing turns up in syslog
[01:15] <pandamonium> it just dies
[01:16] <SkyNeT> xchat
[01:16] <SkyNeT> your talking about
[01:16] <SkyNeT> will on windows i run mirc
[01:16] <SkyNeT> unrealircd
[01:16] <SkyNeT> anope
[01:16] <SkyNeT> and bopm
[01:16] <SkyNeT> eggdrop
[01:16] <SkyNeT> dyndsn ip
[01:16] <maki> soory, if when my ubuntu is starting and there is splash nvidia that seems nvidia is installed corectly?
[01:16] <grimboy> SkyNeT, No, in linux X is a fairly low level set of drawing routines for building guis.
[01:17] <kozmic> maki: correct.
[01:17] <mormoloc> any idea what this does  "sudo fc-cache -f -v"?
[01:17] <SkyNeT> will am new to linux
[01:17] <Shadowpillar> SkyNeT: hy troll.
[01:17] <SkyNeT> good with xp
[01:17] <SkyNeT> no xp in side out
[01:17] <kozmic> mormoloc: Build font information caches
[01:17] <Shadowpillar> SkyNeT: ps: fail.
[01:17] <SkyNeT> but linux not sure
[01:17] <SkyNeT> lolz
[01:17] <grimboy> Shadowpillar, Are you sure he's a troll?
[01:17] <Shadowpillar> yeah.
[01:18] <mormoloc> kozmic: 10x
[01:18] <grimboy> Shadowpillar, Ok.
[01:18] <Shadowpillar> he's from canada and what he's doing is typical.
[01:18] <SkyNeT> ok will going off this live
[01:18] <SkyNeT> back on windows xp
[01:18] <SkyNeT> then
[01:18] <mkquist> shadowpillar - ?? whats he doing?
[01:18] <mkquist> left quick enough there
[01:18] <pandamonium> SkyNeT, one of the tricks with linux, or at least what i've found, is googling for howto do something and finding out where all the config files are hidden
[01:19] <maki> and if i install xgl after driver nvidia in xubuntu should i do installation xgl again to load xgl? I cant run xgl
[01:19] <Shadowpillar> generally being annoying
[01:19] <pandamonium> and the options within
[01:19] <grimboy> pandamonium, SkyNeT was a troll, no need to advise.
[01:19] <ThomAnnatar> They should make more ubuntu chanels: Ubuntu instaltion problems, Unbuntu Software problems, Ubuntu core problems, Ubuntu general Chat
[01:19] <grimboy> pandamonium, Also he's left.
[01:20] <grimboy> ThomAnnatar, Yeah.
[01:20] <pandamonium> grimboy, ah well, free typing practice ;)
[01:20] <ThomAnnatar> this one is just way heavy
[01:20] <mkquist> lol
[01:20] <grimboy> :D
[01:20] <Shadowpillar> mkquist: purposeful broken english, and saying linux is useless because he can do everything on XP, etc.
[01:20] <Shadowpillar> just looking to start shit.
[01:20] <brooklyn> REALLY offtopic here - anyone know where i can get some nice desktop wallpapers
[01:20] <mkquist> ic
[01:21] <pandamonium> brooklyn, depends on what your tastes are i suppose
[01:21] <grimboy> brooklyn, DeviantArt has some quite good ones sometimes.
[01:21] <pandamonium> but i do believe that any .png can be used
[01:21] <brooklyn> panamonium: really anything.. mostly nature stuff =P
[01:21] <Shadowpillar> mkquist: plus, I deal with trolls often. I know some too. though I dont like associating myself with them :(
[01:22] <spirit_> how to driver the net card work int the TERM model,not the X window
[01:22] <Shadowpillar> so I know an attempted troll when I see it
[01:22] <pandamonium> is that nature as in animals or "nature" as in ... well that euphemism for a certain type of art?
[01:22] <Shadowpillar> anyway
[01:22] <eclapton> hello I have a buggy cd of dapper 6.06, the installer crashes.... do you know if there is a text installer i can still use without breaking my partition table??
[01:22] <Shadowpillar> night
[01:22] <HeathenDan> i downloaded a bunch of windows vista wallpapers... they now grace the background of my xubuntu desktop :p
[01:22] <grimboy> Shadowpillar, Night.
[01:22] <cactus_sediento> eclapton, HeatherDan, mkquist finally got the solution.....:-)
[01:22] <brooklyn> HeathenDan: lol
[01:22] <looktj> back
[01:22] <Jagoo> hi
[01:22] <mkquist> the splash thingy?
[01:22] <eclapton> ok
[01:22] <cactus_sediento> there was a packet left kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[01:23] <spirit_> how to driver the net card work int the TERM model,not the X window
[01:23] <cactus_sediento> uninstall that
[01:23] <Jagoo> does Ubuntu have any console-based (ncurses perhaps?) GUI front-end to apt-get?
[01:23] <mkquist> good deal, congrats
[01:23] <looktj> what does dsl look like?
[01:23] <detectiveinspekt> I'm trying to install dapper but the install sits there on the keyboard layout part
[01:23] <looktj> dsl = damn small linux
[01:23] <mkquist> detectiveinspekt - choose the language then clik next
[01:24] <detectiveinspekt> yep im at step 3 but its not doing anything
[01:24] <eclapton> detective yes there is a bug in the installer https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000072.html
[01:24] <thorben> hi, does anybody know, why there are no security updates for ubuntu since two weeks? debian had many updates, there should be some for ubuntu, too...
[01:24] <vorbote> Jagoo: there are two. aptitude and dselect.
[01:24] <mkquist> detectiveinspekt - had the same happen
[01:24] <HeathenDan> that kubuntu is sneaky :p
[01:24] <cactus_sediento> uninstalled also  the packet usplash, and then reinstalled it....esthetic is now ubuntu thanks you all
[01:25] <eclapton> cactus_sediento you can now write even a wiki ;D
[01:25] <cactus_sediento> where?
[01:25] <eclapton> joke!
[01:25] <cactus_sediento> :-)
[01:26] <Kahr> Anyone have a recommendable reference to properly setting up a svn server?  my google fu fails me :\
[01:26] <cactus_sediento> anyhow would be nice if kubuntu would be as easy to uninjstalll that it is to install...
[01:26] <pandamonium> right, going to try to sort this firefox thing out... wish me luck ;)
[01:26] <eclapton> detectiveinspekt dou you know if there is a text installer on the boot we both can use?
[01:27] <detectiveinspekt> mkquist did you just download it again
[01:27] <looktj> do i need to burn beta 2?
[01:27] <looktj> or keep beta 1 installer?
[01:27] <eclapton> yeeep
[01:27] <detectiveinspekt> eclapton, don't think there is one
[01:27] <eclapton> shit, so
[01:27] <looktj> !lang
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lang - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <looktj> !language
[01:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:28] <vorbote> (j #ubuntu-unregged
[01:28] <eclapton> LOL, sorry
[01:29] <eclapton> detectiveinspekt do you know where is the installer from the beta2 to download, and still use the CD
[01:29] <eclapton> !beer
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <detectiveinspekt> i duno im got a install problem
[01:30] <eclapton> hehe
[01:30] <looktj> omg! i havent been watching the time, 4:30 AM?
[01:30] <looktj> i basically stayed up all nigh
[01:30] <SG3S> I'm looking for jewel case covers for desktop/server where can I find something?
[01:30] <detectiveinspekt> according to that site the finial has already been released in june
[01:31] <eclapton> yes, but i mean the "bin", for using it instead of the buggy one
[01:31] <tRSS> quick question: how can I mount my usb thumb drive? it should be detected automagically, which is not happening?
[01:32] <eclapton> i suppose it should be alone somwhere, i dont have an ADSL to dwnld an ISO of 600 megs...
[01:33] <eclapton> BTW anyone knows of a good frontend for at or cron??
[01:33] <sladen> eclapton: I don't;  they're fairly low-level
[01:34] <Kahr> tRSS, assuming the usb drive is device sda and has one partition, "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrivefolder"
[01:34] <sladen> eclapton: and the input you'd have to give them isn't that much differnet to the actualy contents of the files
[01:34] <sladen> eclapton: just, can you file a wishlist bug about it and somebody might be able to track down a tool
[01:34] <tRSS> Kahr: thats the problem, i though usb drive is sda, but I can't see it in my /dev directory.
[01:34] <eclapton> sladen: well, you know, something for automaitng things
[01:34] <Lynoure> eclapton: What kind of good? Text editors do usually well
[01:35] <Kahr> huh,
[01:35] <Kahr> Does your device show up in "/proc/bus/usb/devices"?
[01:35] <tRSS> let me check
[01:36] <eclapton> Lynoure: ok, do you have any example file, please? I hadnt been able to found out time format
[01:36] <tRSS> Kahr: I can just see devices in /proc/bus/usb
[01:37] <Lynoure> eclapton: I can look you up some nice manual, brb
[01:37] <Kahr> tRSS, "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices", it's a list,
[01:37] <eclapton> sladen: there really isnt any little prog for doing that still??
[01:37] <buerste> hey, i'm trying to use oss with two applications but it does not work. got a soundcard with emu10k1 chip.
[01:38] <tRSS> Kahr: process hangs :(
[01:38] <Lynoure> eclapton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crontab
[01:38] <Kahr> huh, I'm stumped then,
[01:38] <eclapton> Lynoure: going there, thanx
[01:38] <HeathenDan> there's gcrontab... which i installed but never found a use for :p
[01:39] <philipsmith> Every time I start Dapper, thee is a 'terminal' window open. How do I reconfigure Dapper so that this window does not open on startup?
[01:39] <tRSS> Kahr: never mind, thanks for the effort though :)
[01:39] <Kahr> for crontab, you can always use basic times such as "@weekly bash /home/me/scripts/automatic.sh"
[01:41] <clem-vangelis> hi all
[01:41] <Kahr> anyone familiar with using or setting up SVN?
[01:41] <NotSure> anyone have any advice on finding lexmark z32 drivers to work with ubuntu?
[01:41] <domster> yeah Kahr
[01:42] <Kahr> setting it up?
[01:42] <domster> yep
[01:42] <clem-vangelis> somebody know what is the best neogeo emulator ? xmame or gngeo ?
[01:42] <Lynoure> NotSure: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z32
[01:42] <eclapton> Kahr: I suppose daily, hourly wors too
[01:43] <Kahr> how would you recommend going about it? (a website would even be fine)
[01:43] <NotSure> thank you Lynoure!
[01:43] <domster> Kahr - bing!: http://www.sematopia.com/?p=66
[01:43] <illusia-ru> hi people!somebody know how install intel drivers(mobile graphics 915) from intel.com.There they support only SUSE,but it`s not difference ;)
[01:43] <illusia-ru> ?
[01:43] <Kahr> awesome,
[01:44] <looktj> on ubuntuguide, they gotta replace apt-get with aptitude
[01:44] <Lynoure> NotSure: and also possibly http://drivers.lexmark.com/drivers.nsf/SelectPrinter?OpenForm&0
[01:44] <lobajotodo> hi people
[01:44] <domster> Kahr, actually that's not such a good resource - http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.serverconfig.httpd.html is great
[01:45] <NotSure> Lynoure, i'm checking them both out now - thanks again
[01:45] <lobajotodo> can anyone helpme with mount for a ntfs sata raid?
[01:45] <blue-frog> illusia-ru: the intel (!% has not been recognised by ubuntu?
[01:45] <Lynoure> NotSure: You are welcome. Good luck!
[01:45] <lobajotodo> hi people i have a problem with raid
[01:46] <illusia-ru> blue-frog just Xorg driver i810,but i would like use native linux driver from intel is it possible?
[01:46] <domster> Kahr, so basically the steps are: get apache2 going, get the modules you need (dav et al) and enable them, get svn and svnadmin going, create the repos, and expose it
[01:47] <detectiveinspekt> is it possible to install the server then upgrade to desktop via internet?
[01:47] <blue-frog> illusia-ru: yes right it's 810 which is taken, sry don't know then, as 810 works fine for me with acceleration I didn't bother
[01:47] <detectiveinspekt> can't install desktop
[01:48] <illusia-ru> blue-frog did you try intel driver?For me i810 works fine as well ;)
[01:48] <blue-frog> detectiveinspekt: tried install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:48] <detectiveinspekt> yes but there is a bug
[01:48] <blue-frog> illusia-ru: no i don't fiddle with things that works ok...
[01:49] <illusia-ru> detectiveinspekt, why you can`t install desktop?whats the problem?
[01:49] <detectiveinspekt> blue-frog, stops at step 3 of install after you select keyboard layout
[01:49] <detectiveinspekt> install just freezes
[01:49] <blue-frog> detectiveinspekt: not sure what you are doing here
[01:50] <blue-frog> detectiveinspekt: install server and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:50] <detectiveinspekt> yea ill try that out
[01:50] <ThomAnnatar> NO
[01:50] <ThomAnnatar> that wont work :p
[01:50] <illusia-ru> detectiveinspekt,  how much RAM you have?
[01:50] <detectiveinspekt> 128Meg
[01:50] <brooklyn> does anyone know if say, you post an image on a forum, and someone with a windows machine see's a .png files, - are they able to see it?
[01:50] <blue-frog> detectiveinspekt: a bit low
[01:50] <illusia-ru> try install XUBUNTU ;)
[01:51] <blue-frog> brooklyn: yes
[01:51] <detectiveinspekt> yea its a bit low, want to make it into a pvr
[01:51] <illusia-ru> and in the menu check your install CD for errors and hardware
[01:51] <brooklyn> blue-frog: thanks
[01:51] <ThomAnnatar> detectiveinspekt try to install ubuntu desktop without launching x ;)
[01:52] <illusia-ru> ThomAnnatar, better install Xubuntu for this machine
[01:52] <illusia-ru> it a bit slow
[01:52] <ThomAnnatar> illusia-ru probably so
[01:52] <blue-frog> detectiveinspekt: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  should do as illusia says
[01:53] <ThomAnnatar> detectiveinspekt better insall Xubuntu like illusia sais
[01:54] <jacques> Can someone tell me how to view windows media player streams in linux because i cant seem to find a pugin for  firefox
[01:54] <DigiTalk> dows anyone know how to compile AVM-Fritz-Drivers? I'm getting error 2 due to missing kernel sources. But I don't know where to get the right version.
[01:54] <Kahr> jacques, not too familiar, but mplayer might have a plugin for firefox/mozilla,
[01:54] <ThomAnnatar> jackues: www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:55] <Bazzi> DigiTalk: sudo aptitude install linux-source linux-headers
[01:55] <Bazzi> + build-essential
[01:55] <ChaosFan> jacques: there is an mplayer-plugin for firefox, as Kahr says
[01:55] <jacques> kahr, where do i go for mplayer
[01:55] <DigiTalk> Bazzi: Thanx, downloading...
[01:56] <jacques> chaosFan, where do i go for mplayer
[01:56] <ThomAnnatar> jackques: i reccomend totem-xine (there is a firefox plugin for)
[01:56] <monomaniacpat> Can someone explain the advantages of using a seperate partition for home-files and how I would set up a partition to do so on a new installation (I am reformatting from a full dapper install)
[01:56] <Bazzi> DigiTalk did linux-headers pull the correct version for you?
[01:56] <Bazzi> (I don't know if it's a virtual package)
[01:57] <looktj> im bored
[01:57] <DigiTalk> Bazzi: yep, it did!
[01:57] <brooklyn> ThomAnnatar: will  totem-xine play wmvs or mpgs?
[01:57] <Kahr> monomaniacpat, if for some reason, a hard drive sector goes bad or for some other reason a fsck fails on a partition, your other partition may still be accessible,
[01:58] <DigiTalk> In which directory do I have to build, Bazzi?
[01:58] <Bazzi> should work from any directory
[01:58] <OmegaNine> Someone know where I can find a good HOWTO on how to set ubuntu in to battery saver mode on my laptop?
[01:58] <Kahr> also, when I wanted to reinstall, I could wipe the root partition and save everything in my /home,
[01:58] <DigiTalk> command not found...
[01:58] <Bazzi> which command?
[01:58] <DigiTalk> sudo build-essential
[01:59] <looktj> Couldn't find package "realplay".  However, the following
[01:59] <looktj> help\
[01:59] <Bazzi> no, sorry, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:59] <Kahr> OmegaNine, assuming your hardware supports it, you're looking for ACPI or APM support,
[01:59] <DigiTalk> oh, sorry :-) I Misunderstood you...
[01:59] <looktj> lawl
[02:00] <looktj> !aptitude
[02:00] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[02:00] <Rondom> monomaniacpat: simply select the mountpint /home/ for the parttion that you want to be your home-directory on
[02:00] <OmegaNine> Kahr: Its a newer...well very new...laptop - wich would you suggest?
[02:00] <DigiTalk> tx, looktj
[02:01] <Rondom> monomaniacpat: select / for the root-partition
[02:01] <Rondom> monomaniacpat: and swap for the swap partition ;-)
[02:01] <Kahr> OmegaNine, I'd assume ACPI
[02:02] <Kahr> if you happen to have a /proc/acpi directory, then fo' sho' :P
[02:02] <ccooke> OmegaNine: APM has been deprecated for years; there are still a very few functions used, but I've not seen a purely APM machine in about six or seven years
[02:02] <ccooke> My spare laptop (which I'm using now) is an ACPI machine, and it's an old Dell from 2000.
[02:02] <DigiTalk> okay, success. But error 2 still occurs "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-286/build - no such file or directory
[02:02] <Kahr> APM's that old?
[02:02] <sethk> monomaniacpat, you don't need to have separate partitions to preserve the data.  It might save a couple of minor steps, but you pay for it in decreased flexibility
[02:02] <OmegaNine> Yeah its ACPI but how do i tell ubuntu to turn things down when im on battery.  My battery life in ubuntu is less than 2 hours, when i windows I think it was around 3:40-4:00
[02:03] <Bazzi> DigiTalk: I had that, too, once, something must still be missing
[02:03] <sethk> monomaniacpat, in any event, if your current setup doesn't use a separate partition, it is incorrect to think that this means you can't preserve data across a new install
[02:03] <ThomAnnatar> brooklyn: yes it will if you get the codecs
[02:03] <ccooke> OmegaNine: System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[02:03] <OmegaNine> ccooke: It has nothing other than how long to wait before going in to "sleep" modes
[02:03] <Bazzi> DigiTalk: do a sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686
[02:04] <Bazzi> to make sure it header pulled the right versions
[02:04] <Bazzi> header=really
[02:04] <ccooke> OmegaNine: Ah. There's no unfied control for the rest, but it's getting easier.
[02:04] <rich04020> hi all
[02:04] <OmegaNine> I was thinking there migiht be a howto, that i have not been able to find threw google, that might tell me what to change.  Something I could throw in to a shell script or something.
[02:05] <Kahr> I'm ignorant of any ACPI frontends, but acpid is a package that requires a bit of customization to get whatever actions executed when various acpi events pass,
[02:05] <ccooke> OmegaNine: what exactly do you want to acheive?
[02:05] <^SkyNeT^> juli
[02:05] <rich04020> need help with ubuntu and adsl modem/router can any 1 asist ?
[02:05] <OmegaNine> ccooke: Longer battery life.  Its but almost in half with ubuntu
[02:06] <OmegaNine> I remember there where shell script for Slackware back in the day, but i am unable to find those either.
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> OmegaNine: the trade off for me was that my lappy no longer runs hot
[02:06] <ccooke> OmegaNine: How did you have Windows set up?
[02:06] <DigiTalk> got it, thanx!
[02:06] <ccooke> OmegaNine: As in, what were your power management settings under windows?
[02:07] <OmegaNine> Default WindowsXP install. never realy paid much attention.  But I know it didnt use direct drawing, or video card acelleration unless it needed to.
[02:07] <OmegaNine> (I guess I could install windows again and look)
[02:07] <Kahr> ccooke, does ubuntu have cpu scaling support added in a default install?
[02:07] <OmegaNine> Its a Dell E1505, duo core
[02:08] <ccooke> Kahr: yes.
[02:08] <OmegaNine> Kahr: Yes, i have  alittle widget that tells me what its scaled too
[02:08] <Kahr> nifty,
[02:08] <OmegaNine> It normaly idels CPU0 at 800 (1.66 max) and CPU1 at 500
[02:08] <brooklyn> Does anyone know if theres a flash player that will work for x64 systems???
[02:09] <Rondom> brooklyn: there is one in development, but it isn't finished, yet
[02:09] <brooklyn> Rondom: ahhh, have they any idea when possibly?
[02:09] <OmegaNine> "in Development"  the story of my life :P
[02:09] <monomaniacpat> Kahr: Rondom, sethk: thanks for the advice guys.
[02:10] <buerste> i'm trying to run teamspeak and another app using the oss, when running ts2 first, it works, when running the other app first, ts2 sound does not work. does anybody have an idea how to fix this?
[02:10] <ccooke> OmegaNine: Okay, so. You've already got processor throttling.
[02:10] <ccooke> OmegaNine: what you need, then, would be screen brightness and spinning down the hdd
[02:10] <monomaniacpat> sethk: not sure about what is wise... I've not had any probs on a single partition yet and I don't mess about that much, I just use for image manipulation and word processing
[02:10] <Rondom> brooklyn: iirc macromedia plans to release it in 2007. the free open-source alternative (gnash) will be finished when it's finished :-)
[02:11] <OmegaNine> ccooke: *cheks* acutally my screen was pretty bright 3 of 8
[02:11] <OmegaNine> as far as spinning DOWN my HDD thats not a big issue, if its on battery and its on, im using it.
[02:12] <ccooke> OmegaNine: not necessarily
[02:12] <OmegaNine> Maybe lower RPM's if that posable...
[02:12] <NotSure> Lynoure, thank you - the printer works great
[02:12] <Kahr> buerste, it's been a while, but you're probably looking for a sound daemon like esd to handle multiple applications using the sound card -- someone correct me if I'm wrong
[02:12] <rich04020> Problem-- using adsl modem/router. able to ping but not able surf the net via Firefox.. any1 heard of this issue ?
[02:12] <ccooke> OmegaNine: no, it's not.
[02:12] <Lathiat> OmegaNine: it spins down and back up when you need it the hdd isnt always "in use"
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> rich dns
[02:12] <MetaMorfoziS> http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/index.php
[02:12] <blue-frog> rich04020: what cat /etc/resolv.conf give you in a console?
[02:13] <Kahr> OmegaNine, hdparm has a bunch of useful options to change hd performance
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> rich04020:  Does this work in your browser 216.239.39.99
[02:13] <OmegaNine> Well with the gig of ram, i almost never hit my paging file, that might be my next step.
[02:14] <OmegaNine> Kahr: How hard is it on the driver, i paid a retarted (bought it from dell, that was stupid) amount of money for the 140 Gig HDD
[02:15] <babo> Ubuntu doesn't have webscarab in the repos ?
[02:15] <monomaniacpat> is there a way to save all settings and passwds for firefox?
[02:15] <OmegaNine> man hdparm > hdpwer
[02:15] <OmegaNine> oops
[02:15] <Kahr> on the driver?  most feel more concern for the hardware itself -- not sure I understand the question,
[02:15] <babo> Does anyone know a good web proxy then for app security testing ?
[02:15] <ccooke> OmegaNine: You may find this useful: https://launchpad.net/bounties/edal
[02:15] <rich04020> problem is currently in XP as unable run irc in Ubuntu to interent prob. will try and log baqck in later with findings
[02:15] <OmegaNine> I mean on the drive, the hardware....
[02:15] <ccooke> OmegaNine: It's got a lot of tips for battery life as comments
[02:15] <OmegaNine> Right on. thanks ccooke
[02:16] <ccooke> OmegaNine: Read the lot before doing anything, though, since some of the bits in there give ad-hoc solutions where later there's a better one
[02:17] <Kahr> hdparm, like any tool, can be dangerous if you tell it to be,
[02:17] <ccooke> OmegaNine: Oh, and try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReducedPowerUsage
[02:17] <OmegaNine> :o\ I swear I googled this before comming in here and asking you guys :oP  thanks big though
[02:17] <bengt_> Hi, I installed Knot-1 and had a nice GDM login gui, then upgraded to knot-2, and no more gui. Just a black screen after usplash dissapeard. Any suggestions?
[02:18] <sladen> bengt_: can you boot without the 'splash' parameter
[02:18] <ccooke> OmegaNine: No problem.
[02:18] <sladen> bengt_: does that get you X?
[02:18] <itsmegb> bengt_: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[02:19] <bengt_> sladen: I "apt-get remove usplash" but did not do any difference. I boot in single user mode, and then ctrl-D, no difference
[02:19] <sladen> bengt_: if you're playing with Knot-2, remember that it's a development test release, and can you please file a bug with any problem you get
[02:19] <bengt_> itsmegb: sorry.
[02:19] <bengt_> sladen: Thanks
[02:19] <itsmegb> bengt_: lol, no worries, u just might get better help there
[02:19] <sladen> bengt_: rather than that, can you boot *without* 'splash' on the kernel commandline.  press 'e' in 'grub' at boot time to edit the options
[02:20] <OmegaNine> I think that windows was turning down my LCD, just turning that down has jumped it up quiet a bit.
[02:20] <ccooke> OmegaNine: It does, yes. The VM tweaks I pointed you at will help, too
[02:21] <ccooke> OmegaNine: If you have an ATI card, you might like to try the fglrx tweak, too
[02:21] <OmegaNine> Or just that the battery detection deamon messed up and mis calculated the time, its been 42 mins for like a half hour
[02:21] <bengt_> sladen: I removed the splash from grub menu as well... no difference.
[02:21] <maxblack> 1. 2. 3.
[02:22] <OmegaNine> ccooke: Im looking at it now.  Nice resources.  I see alot of people asking this, might be worth adding these to the bot.
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> OmegaNine: I only gave up 10 minutes per charge, I assumed it was higer fan speed keeping the HP cooler
[02:23] <OmegaNine> Jack_Sparrow: Gave up 10 mins from switching from windows to linux you mean?
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:23] <Nizo> is there anyone who can help with wifi settings?
[02:23] <OmegaNine> Well im going to read threw these, and let my battery run down to 5% and hope that it will give me a better estimation tomorrow
[02:24] <OmegaNine> Nizo: Shoot.
[02:24] <Nizo> thanx. It worked great but after i upgraded distro
[02:24] <Nizo> it suddenly stopped working] 
[02:24] <Nizo> i can see the network but because some strange reason i cant connect
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I wold like to stress the importance of backups no matter what system you run.  Especially before making big changes... ONe line in cli will save you lots of time and frustration
[02:25] <OmegaNine> LOL @ Jack_Sparrow
[02:25] <rich04020> blue-frog: get google when 216.239.39.99 entered. cat /etc/resolv.conf returns nameserver 10.1.1.1
[02:25] <darksyn> hello all
[02:26] <OmegaNine> Nizo: Did you do a full upgrade (like format and reinstall) or threw apt-get?
[02:26] <Nizo> first i did it with apt
[02:26] <blue-frog> rich04020: this ip being your router?
[02:26] <Nizo> then i made full reinstall with new distro
[02:26] <rich04020> yep
[02:26] <Nizo> didnt help
[02:26] <OmegaNine> Nizo:  Have you updated and upgraded since the reinstall?
[02:27] <blue-frog> rich04020: edit /etc/resolv.conf and enter the dns of your provider
[02:27] <blue-frog> rich04020: instead of 10....
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> rich04020:  wb... that answered one question..
[02:27] <Kahr> rich04020, temp fix: add the addr 4.4.4.2 to /etc/resolv.conf,
[02:27] <DarkSYN> question: when I either do a sudo apt-get update or use Synaptic I get the following: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:27] <DarkSYN>  what can the problem be?
[02:27] <OmegaNine> Nizo: Like "apt-get update" "apt-get upgrade"
[02:27] <DarkSYN> and this is done for other repos too
[02:28] <Kahr> it's a public DNS host that's fairly fast from my location, (San Francisco)
[02:28] <rich04020> ok, but why am i able to ping a www address in a treminal ?
[02:28] <OmegaNine> I lost my WiFi dirvers when I moved to the 686 kernel and that fixed it for me
[02:28] <llama33> i fucking hate you all FUCK FUCK FUCK
[02:28] <llama33> i fucking hate you all FUCK FUCK FUCK
[02:28] <llama33> i fucking hate you all FUCK FUCK FUCK
[02:28] <llama33> i fucking hate you all FUCK FUCK FUCK
[02:28] <llama33> i fucking hate you all FUCK FUCK FUCK
[02:28] <llama33> i fucking hate you all FUCK FUCK FUCK
[02:28] <llama33> i fucking hate you all FUCK FUCK FUCK
[02:28] <LoRez> Warning: `llama33' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[02:28] <Nizo> i first upgraded distro then upgrade and update
[02:28] <llama33> lol just pinging :D it's more fun this way
[02:29] <OmegaNine> run upgrade one more time
[02:29] <DarkSYN> rich04020, possibly because you haven't specified nameservers in your /etc/resolv.conf
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> We dont like you much either
[02:29] <Nizo> i did it
[02:29] <fooadd> llama32, you fucking ozie get the fuck out of here!
[02:29] <Nizo> its full updated
[02:29] <bbrazil> !ops
[02:29] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[02:29] <rich04020> ok, thanks for your help
[02:30] <mixandgo> hello, any ideea how to make my logitech wireless mouse work on ubuntu ?
[02:30] <OmegaNine> Nizo: Are you getting the SSID's?
[02:30] <Hobbsee> Seveas: thanks
[02:30] <Nizo> I set SSID in networking
[02:31] <OmegaNine> When you go "System -> admin -> Networking"
[02:31] <Nizo> when i add to my panel network monitor i can see the network
[02:31] <gan|y|med> hi
[02:31] <gan|y|med> access to my firewire harddisk (copying) gives me 25 mb/s on the fat32 partition, but only 1.5 mb/s on the reiserfs and the ext2 partition. why?
[02:31] <Nizo> i set everything IP DNS WEP correctly
[02:32] <Nizo> but i simply cant connect to network
[02:32] <DarkSYN> question: when I either do a sudo apt-get update or use Synaptic I get the following: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:32] <OmegaNine> Nizo: Threw CLI or the system menu?
[02:32] <DarkSYN> what could the problem be?
[02:32] <habeeb> Kubuntu is Ubuntu, but with KDE? No other differences?
[02:32] <DarkSYN> (and sorry for repeating the question)
[02:32] <Nizo> OmegaNine: sorry dont know what that means
[02:32] <Seveas> DarkSYN, your proxy is failing
[02:32] <thomm> habeeb: i think, no
[02:33] <fooadd> habeeb, yes
[02:33] <OmegaNine> Nizo: Did you do the setting threw Command Line or thre the Graphical User Interface?
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkSYN: have you modified your sources list?
[02:33] <ompaul> Seveas, you have pm from a while ago
[02:33] <habeeb> Also, is "cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc <iso_filename>.iso" enough to burn the ISO of Kubuntu? Or should I add as a parameter the 4x burning speed?
[02:33] <cpsalvestrini> Good morning all
[02:33] <DarkSYN> Seveas, I am not using a proxy, tho
[02:33] <Nizo> OmegaNIne: i tried both ways
[02:34] <Seveas> DarkSYN, them remove it from the config..
[02:34] <OmegaNine> And your sure you are entering it in ASCII or HEX, wich ever the router is using?
[02:34] <DarkSYN> Jack_Sparrow, yes, 3 weeks ago, but up untill 2 weeks ago I had no problems of this sort, then left on holiday and when I tried to update things today it did this
[02:34] <Seveas> ompaul, why did you unban that piece of ...?
[02:34] <Nizo> yes
[02:34] <OmegaNine> It sounds like the drivers are working, i think its over my head :o\
[02:34] <DarkSYN> Seveas, remove all the problematic repos from the config?
[02:34] <Seveas> ompaul, tor/regular/* are known non-abusers, they don't need to be banned
[02:35] <Mikey> Hmm, the package in Dapper's repositries isn't the latest XChat is it?
[02:35] <Seveas> DarkSYN, no, you configured apt/synaptic to use a proxy.
[02:35] <mixandgo> any ideea on how to config a logitech wireless mouse ?
[02:35] <Nizo> hm thanx anyway
[02:35] <ompaul> Seveas, okay tor,  I did before that *.a. for that rather anti social individual
[02:35] <DarkSYN> Seveas, not consciously I didn't
[02:35] <ompaul> Seveas, he had two ips he has no .a.001.beg.iprimus.net.au
[02:36] <DarkSYN> right, let me check /etc
[02:36] <Seveas> ah
[02:36] <OmegaNine> Nizo: What wirless card are you using?
[02:36] <BeShaMo> I did a dist-upgrade from 5.10 to 6.X and pppoe stopped working, anyone have any idea how to fix it?
[02:36] <Nizo> D-link air G+
[02:36] <ompaul> BeShaMo, click on System Administration Networking and try enabling it there
[02:37] <BeShaMo> hmm, ok
[02:37] <OmegaNine> Give me a sec with google.
[02:37] <DarkSYN> the /etc/apt/apt.conf file only has this line: >Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[02:37] <OmegaNine> Nizo: Have the model number?
[02:37] <Nizo> OmegaNIne: OK
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkSYN: are you behind a router
[02:38] <Nizo> give me second
[02:38] <DarkSYN> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[02:38] <OmegaNine> Nizo: Sure
[02:38] <DarkSYN> but haven't made any new config changes in either the routing table or anything else there
[02:39] <Nizo> OmegaNIne: DWL-G520+
[02:40] <DarkSYN> Seveas, in Synaptic->Preferences->Network the connection is set to Direct Connection as well, so no proxy that I can see
[02:40] <Adam_G> hi all. On bootup of the 6.06.1 desktop CD on a two-year-old emachines I"m getting a "hw_random: RNG not detected" error (before it gets to . I have gotten this solved at least once before (I've had ubuntu on the machine before) but I don't remember how. Google isn't proving fruitful. Anyone know if there's a boot option I can use to bypass the error?
[02:40] <MetaMorfoziS> !java
[02:40] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:40] <matti> Adam_G: This is not an error.
[02:40] <MetaMorfoziS> !flash
[02:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:41] <Adam_G> oh...
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkSYN: Seveas is way better at this than I am.. so I will go get my morning coffee.....
[02:41] <Adam_G> well, it stops at that point, and doesn't go any further
[02:41] <matti> Adam_G: This is only a message which suppose to tell you, that there's no hardware random number generators detected.
[02:41] <DarkSYN> Jack_Sparrow, off you go then, and enjoy your coffee, hehehe
[02:41] <matti> Adam_G: You mean, freeze after this message?
[02:41] <stefan> what's the reason of this error message : java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: DES
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[02:42] <habeeb> Also, is "cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc <iso_filename>.iso" enough to burn the ISO of Kubuntu? Or should I add as a parameter the 4x burning speed?
[02:42] <stefan> + ERROR: java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: DES/ECB/PKCS5Padding: DES
[02:42] <DarkSYN> stefan, it means this algorithm doesn't exist in the API
[02:42] <stefan> DarkSYN: why can I get it?
[02:43] <tengil> i been checking on the net for a bit on installing skype in ubuntu. whats the correct way to do it?
[02:43] <DarkSYN> stefan, which Java version u got?
[02:43] <Adam_G> motti: nothing else happens after the message. the [ok]  shows up, but keyboard input doesn't seem to do anything, and the next step doesn't show up on the screen.
[02:43] <stefan> DarkSYN: the from java.com
[02:43] <Adam_G> er, matti :D
[02:43] <DarkSYN> stefan, specifically, which version of that?
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[02:43] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:43] <matti> Adam_G: Try boot in safe mode.
[02:43] <Adam_G> kk, will do. thx
[02:43] <matti> Adam_G: With disabled ubuntu splash screen, and so on.
[02:44] <matti> Adam_G: Look at screen, and search for any errors, warnings, anything...
[02:44] <stefan> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[02:44] <Adam_G> matti: alright. I'm on a second computer so I'll let you know if anything shows up
[02:45] <matti> Adam_G: k.
[02:45] <OmegaNine> Nizo: You have the multiveres selected for repositories?
[02:45] <tizwonder> hrm.. whats another good gui irc client other than xchat.
[02:45] <matti> Adam_G: How old is this machine anyway?
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> tizwonder: konversation
[02:46] <OmegaNine> Nizo: The drivers is showing up in "linux-restricted-modules" wich is the non free stuff
[02:46] <tizwonder> Jack_Sparrow: any more?
[02:46] <DarkSYN> stefan, check the documentation from java.sun.com, in the API for the java version you got. it could be the method you're using has been deprecated in favor of some other one
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> tizwonder: Look in synaptic for irc
[02:46] <Nizo> yes i allowed everything. I think that the card has right driver because in previous distro it had same driver (texas instruments) and worked
[02:46] <tizwonder> k
[02:47] <Adam_G> matti: I guess a couple of years... 256 meg, 2.5 ghz,
[02:47] <matti> Adam_G: Whooo... I have Pentium II machine ;p
[02:47] <Adam_G> with ubuntu?!?
[02:47] <matti> Adam_G: And it works fine, so in your case age of hardware should not be an issue.
[02:47] <matti> Adam_G: Yes.
[02:47] <matti> Adam_G: Why not? :)
[02:48] <Adam_G> whoa... cool :D
[02:48] <OmegaNine> Nizo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4200&highlight=G630 is saying that it uses Atheros - wich is lumped in to linux-restricted-modules
[02:49] <matti> Adam_G: Problem may lie in hardware support - for example lack of drivers or inproper one.
[02:49] <Nizo> OmegaNine: where can i change cards driver?
[02:49] <matti> Adam_G: That's why I asked you to boot in safe mode.
[02:49] <Adam_G> matti: It's reached the "loading hardware drivers" stage but it's not going any further
[02:49] <matti> Adam_G: In secure mode?
[02:50] <Adam_G> matti, in "safe graphics mode"
[02:50] <OmegaNine> Nizo: I looked, my new drivers came from this repository http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/
[02:50] <Adam_G> there was no safe mode... should I get the alternate ISO?
[02:50] <matti> Adam_G: Oh, iso?
[02:50] <stefan> DarkSYN: thanks
[02:50] <matti> Adam_G: You want to install ubuntu, right?
[02:50] <Adam_G> matti: yeah
[02:50] <matti> Adam_G: Well so. What graphic card you have?
[02:50] <DarkSYN> stefan, what is it you're trying to do?
[02:51] <Adam_G> matti: integrated grapics
[02:51] <OmegaNine> Nizo: Honestly not sure, ask again without my name, someone here will know :P
[02:51] <matti> Adam_G: Intel one?
[02:51] <stefan> DarkSYN: an other version with over 40 MB  the installed java has 16MB
[02:51] <matti> Adam_G: Nvidia GeForce?
[02:51] <stefan> the java JDK
[02:52] <DarkSYN> stefan, pardon?
[02:52] <Nizo> OmegaNine: Ill try other driver...   thanx
[02:52] <mark_> Hello -- Can anyone help me with a security issue?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[02:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:52] <Adam_G> matti: I actually have no idea. I'm looking up the model # now
[02:52] <matti> Adam_G: Look at query.
[02:53] <mark_> ok. my auth.log is showing a lot of different users trying to connect through SSH
[02:53] <stefan> DarkSYN: I would be download a bigger version
[02:53] <mark_> ftpuser, testuser, admin...
[02:53] <mark_> root
[02:53] <DarkSYN> stefan, where did the problem you told us about happen? what were you doing when this popped up?
[02:54] <mark_> i assume someone's trying to take control of my system. is this normal if your computer is facing the internet?
[02:54] <irvin> mark_, do you have a firewall installed?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[02:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[02:55] <jpozlovsky> hi all!
[02:55] <stefan> DarkSYN: when I open jfritz then get I these error messages
[02:55] <mark_> ok i'll give that a shot
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Gawd, I love that bot
[02:55] <DarkSYN> stefan, sorry, what's jfritz?
[02:55] <StoneNote> mark_, yes, it's very common.  I have numerous automated scripts trying to hack my ssh, china, malyasia, hong kong. brazil.  I use a script called denyhosts to lock the out of ssh auth after three incorrect attempts
[02:56] <DarkSYN> stefan, and have you tried to update jfritz?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> mark_: default setup has ports shut down/closed
[02:56] <StoneNote> mark_, http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/
[02:56] <mark_> ok thanks stonenote
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks stone
[02:57] <jpozlovsky> I have a question regarding to Kubuntu 6.06: How can I get Amarok to use Gstreamer? It seems like package amarok-gstreamer is not in dapper repositories. I have also tried Amarok 1.4.2 (from kubuntu.org) but it hasn't solved the problem.. thanks
[02:57] <Nizo> can anyone help me make my wifi working?
[02:58] <erUSUL> !wifi
[02:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:58] <DarkSYN> be back in a little while, ppl. trying something for the repos
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:58] <tizwonder> mark_ have you checked auth.log recently? :P
[02:59] <stefan> DarkSYN: jfritz is a software to connect with the avm fritz box fon -> when the telefon ring can you also see who is calling you
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> stefan: HE left
[03:00] <fallingdutch> how do i execute a command on removing a usb-stick? i have a line in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules and the add action works but nothing is done on "remove"
[03:00] <linuchsan> marc: use authorized keys and set PasswordAuthentication on 'no' in sshd_config
[03:00] <easytiger> hi.. in gnome.. the quit menu no longer brings up the options to shut down/restrt etc.. how do i get it back?
[03:00] <tizwonder> easytiger: right click the panel, click ad to panel
[03:00] <tizwonder> and select the quit icon, to add it.
 no i have the icon.. it just logs me straight out
[03:01] <tizwonder> Hrm.....
[03:01] <tizwonder> easytiger: try deleting the icon, and re adding it, worth a shot :P
[03:01] <stefan> DarkSYN: thanks
[03:01] <montxo> ubuntu-es
[03:01] <habeeb> I want a command to give me the biggest file size in a folder. A command to give me the total file size of a folder (for a file is ls -lh). :)
[03:01] <darlin> nas
[03:02] <easytiger> yup. logs me straight out
[03:02] <linuchsan> habeeb:man  du
[03:02] <toonsy> habeeb: du -sh <folder>
[03:02] <habeeb> THanks!
[03:02] <tizwonder> did you try deleting the icon and re-adding easytiger?
[03:02] <montxo> does anyone know about irc in spanish for ubuntu
[03:02] <tizwonder> thats a bit odd
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[03:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:03] <montxo> muchas gracias
 its not the icon.. its the action.. also happens from the System menu
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pornada
[03:03] <fallingdutch> !de
[03:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> por nada
[03:03] <tizwonder> easytiger: so as soon as you hit the icon it automaticly just signs you off?
 yup exactly
[03:03] <easytiger> is annoying :(
[03:04] <fallingdutch> easytiger, right klick in the bar (not on the icon) and then choose manage or something similar afair you can delete it there
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> easytiger: after trying to add kde to ubuntu my exit menu would loop and not let me out..
[03:04] <abo> how can I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH permanently in my system?
[03:04] <tizwonder> easytiger: your best bet is to delete that icon, or the entire panel in general, and re add everything from scratch, like i said before
[03:06] <tizwonder> as annoying as that is. :P
 i'm not sure its a panel issue
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> easytiger: you might try adding an exit icon to the lower panel
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> too late
[03:07] <tizwonder> easytiger: true, but what do you have to list :P or try adding an icon to the other pannel
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> He is gone
[03:07] <tizwonder> list<lose*
[03:07] <tizwonder> heh, he probably tried hitting the power button again
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:07] <tizwonder> lol
[03:08] <tizwonder> easytiger: try adding the power button the entire other panel :P
[03:08] <psyoptik> I'm trying to install the python-extattr package and although it had no errors when installing, it still doesn't seem to be installed or configured correctly. Any help?
[03:08] <linuchsan> abo: in .bash_profile
[03:08] <thompson> how do i get shadows under my windows and taskbar
[03:08] <StoneNote> psyoptik, I don't know but I'd probably ask that in #python too
[03:08] <thompson> in gnome
[03:09] <psyoptik> ok, thanks
[03:10] <easytiger> how do i start a new session so i don't log out every time i try this?
[03:11] <tizwonder> easytiger: system>prefrences>sessions
[03:11] <tizwonder> idk if that helps
[03:12] <linuchsan> psyoptik:have you installed attr?
[03:12] <tizwonder> that just adds sessions... hmm
 i mean a new instance of X
[03:16] <pilpi> hi all. if diff -r <dir> <dir2> only says Only in <dir>: <file>, does it mean that the directories with all the subdirs and files are exactly identical? the man page doesn't seem very clear
[03:20] <Enselic> How do you set a double click on a .xml file to always open up in "Text Editor"? Now I need to right-click and pick Open with "Text Editor" manually :(
[03:20] <Ayabara> I need a program for taking backup of a partition on my laptop to an external harddrive. What I'd like is a program that automates the process and does incremental backup. Anyone know of such an app?
[03:21] <g-ay> http://gay069.blogspot.com
[03:22] <pilpi> Ayabara, rsync is a command line tool which I'm planning to use. it requires a bit of manual work to get it working, but then how it works is brilliant :).
[03:23] <Ayabara> pilpi: aaahh. I've used that one at work, but I didn't think about it :-)
[03:23] <adminx> For Backup you could try Simple Backup
[03:23] <pilpi> Ayabara, http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[03:24] <pilpi> adminx, oh, summer of code stuff :)
[03:25] <Ayabara> thanks guys. Simple Backup looks nice and easy :-)
[03:25] <thompson> how do i get shadows under my windows and taskbar in gnome
[03:26] <SikaJussi> Hello everyone.
[03:26] <pilpi> thompson, I guess that might be related to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[03:26] <rambo3> apt-cache search  usless |grep junk
[03:27] <SikaJussi> Having a problem with Ubuntu 6.06.1 installer
[03:27] <fallingdutch> Ayabara, flexbackup
[03:27] <oli> hi... i'm having a very strange problem with connecting to the internet: i can ping any site, but FF won't load anything beyond my router. any ideas?
[03:28] <rambo3> !ipv6
[03:28] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:28] <tanath> oli: on the computer you're using now?
[03:28] <Ayabara> fallingdutch: I'll check it out. thanks
[03:28] <tanath> heh
[03:28] <pilpi> Ayabara, someone also recommended kdar or bacula to me but don't know about those. kdar has good encryption at least
[03:28] <philocon> \quit
[03:29] <SikaJussi> The installer window is created, the title bar gets coloured and has a text on it but that's it, nothing else happens. Usually as the livecd loads something the mitsumi drive flashes the green led but now it gets stuck to orange.
[03:29] <rambo3> oli you might also check port forwarding in router
[03:29] <tanath> oli: on the computer you're using now?
[03:30] <oli> no. this is a nasty XP thing
[03:30] <ubuntu> hi
[03:30] <oli> i have the other comp here tho
[03:30] <tanath> oli: have you tried other net apps, like irc or anything?
[03:30] <Ayabara> pilpi: I'm soon getting too many alternatives ;-)
[03:30] <tanath> oli: might be an FF config prob. check proxy settings?
[03:31] <babyubuntu> hello UBUNTUSSSS
[03:31] <oli> i only have the basic ones that come with the intal, and arn't workin either
[03:31] <ubuntu> ff as in firefox?
[03:31] <oli> I've checked proxy settings in FF, set them to auto and to direct... no joy with either
[03:31] <tanath> yeh
[03:31] <oli> yup
[03:31] <ubuntu> whats wrong?
[03:32] <tanath> oli: tried wget?
[03:32] <babyubuntu> anyone know how to install fonts from winXP? on my Ubuntu
[03:32] <stefan> es geht jetzt
[03:32] <tanath> oli: check your router config?
[03:32] <stefan> mit der 16MB java version
[03:32] <oli> i've cehcked the router config.. what is wget?
[03:32] <tanath> oli: command-line tool for downloading stuff
[03:32] <ubuntu> wget is tool to download files
[03:33] <tanath> oli: the pc you're on now is behind the same router?
[03:33] <stefan> sorry in english: it's now ok with the 16MB version
[03:33] <oli> cool.. what should i try as a command then? (new linux user btw $) )
[03:33] <oli> same router
[03:33] <ubuntu> wget link or file
[03:33] <rich102> hi all
[03:33] <babyubuntu> how can i install a new font?
[03:33] <tanath> oli: something like wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-2/edgy-alternate-i386.iso
[03:34] <rich102> how do i stop /etc/resolv.conf being overwritten ?
[03:34] <ubuntu> rich102,  make a backup :)
[03:35] <ubuntu> !fonts
[03:35] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[03:35] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[03:35] <ubuntu> babyubuntu,  chk that link plz
[03:35] <tanath> oli: run ifconfig and paste output in pastebin
[03:35] <Spike1506> !php
[03:35] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:35] <babyubuntu> thx ubotu
[03:35] <rich102> ubuntu: new to linux, don't understand what you mean ?
[03:36] <mark_> ok i setup denyhosts. who wants to try hacking into my computer?
[03:36] <ubuntu> rich102,  make backups of files that rimp.
[03:36] <ubuntu> mark hi
[03:37] <oli> i'm trying the wget command atm, it's saying resolving cdimage.ubuntu.com... 1.0.0.0 *next line* connecting to cdimage.ubuntu.com|1.0.0.0|: 80...
[03:37] <ubuntu> densyhost is to lock sshd scans
[03:37] <tizwonder> rich102 what r you trying to do?
[03:37] <oli> and sitting there
[03:37] <tanath> oli: that's odd... it's not resolving right
[03:37] <Lynoure> mark_: risky thing to try, no certainty it is your computer or that you will not deny giving a permission
[03:37] <oli> tanath: shall i cancel and try ifconfig?
[03:37] <pandamonium> anyone know if there's a way to see if something is hogging a resource?
[03:37] <tanath> oli: what's 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' say?
[03:37] <ubuntu> oli,  did u download a tool named anon-proxy?
[03:38] <tanath> oli: yeh
[03:38] <rich102> I had probs with dns,  so entered name server in resolv.conf. It keeps adding my router ip as the name server everytime I boot up
[03:38] <tanath> rich102: so add your nameservers to your router instead
[03:38] <oli> tanath:ok... from ifconfig what am i looking for?
[03:38] <tanath> oli: paste output to pastebin, and gimme link
[03:38] <tanath> oli: pastebin.ca is one
[03:39] <oli> it's on a different computer...
[03:39] <pilpi> any idea about my diff -r question above? what does rdiff -r actually do?
[03:39] <tanath> right...
[03:39] <pandamonium> for some reason my sound just stops working, like something is locking it from other applications
[03:39] <tanath> duh
[03:39] <ubuntu> pilpi,  man rdiff?
[03:39] <tizwonder> rich102: have you tried chattr +i and chmod -w  ?
[03:39] <mark_> is there another channel for security
[03:39] <tanath> oli: you should see an eth0 section with a line like this: UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[03:40] <pandamonium> but weird thing is, the test in ubuntu device database works
[03:40] <tanath> oli: and a lo section
[03:40] <pilpi> ubuntu, it doesn't really explain if it does confirm that all subdirs and dirs are the same
[03:40] <tanath> oli: eth0 is your default network card. lo is your local loopback
[03:40] <pilpi> and files
[03:40] <ubuntu> info rdiff
[03:41] <tarzeau> anyone play with me? http://bub-n-bros.sf.net or if you got freebsd cd /usr/ports/ && make -C games/bubbros install
[03:41] <oli> tanath: ok.. i got the up broadcast line same as u said
[03:41] <tanath> oli: got eth0 & lo?
[03:41] <rich102> tanath: name servers are already in my router
[03:41] <tanath> oli: both up?
[03:41] <oli> tanath: eth1 and lo
[03:41] <tanath> rich102: then what's the prob?
[03:41] <babyubuntu> is it usual that my file explorer always crash?
[03:41] <DarkSYN> back again
[03:41] <tanath> oli: you have 2 NICs in that box?
[03:41] <tarzeau> babyubuntu: which?
[03:42] <babyubuntu> the usual one
[03:42] <rich102> everytime I reboot resolv.conf get overwritten with nameserver of the ip of the router
[03:42] <oli> tanath: the up bradcast is mtu:1500 and metric:1 and the lo is up loopback running mtu: 16426 and metric: 1
[03:42] <DarkSYN> Seveas, in a way you guys were indeed right. I had privoxy and anon-proxy as part of the tor installation, but what I didn't know is they actually touched other programs (without informing anyone) config files
[03:42] <babyubuntu> the one that i lunch from the menu Places on the left top of my screen
[03:42] <rambo3> oli whats the inte adress on eth1
[03:42] <jenda> I need help connecting my two Ubuntu PCs (Dapper-Edgy) so that I can browse one through the other's nautilus. Please help ;)
[03:43] <Enselic> babyubuntu: how does it crach?
[03:43] <jenda> I'm getting 'login failed' errors
[03:43] <oli> tanath: inet is 192.168.1.3
[03:43] <DarkSYN> jenda you have them on a network?
[03:43] <adminx> Is there a chatroom for LPI Certification?
[03:43] <babyubuntu> several time after i access my windows xp files
[03:43] <jenda> DarkSYN: yep, LANned.
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> rich102: do you have port forwarding set in your router?
[03:43] <DarkSYN> jenda, static or dynamic IPs?
[03:43] <ubuntu> later guys
[03:43] <ubuntu> tc all
[03:43] <Timothy_> Hello, I need help making Dapper detect my sound card
[03:43] <ubuntu> have fun
[03:43] <ubuntu> :)
[03:43] <oli> rambo3: inet is 192.168.1.3
[03:43] <rambo3> ioli i bet its port settings in router
[03:43] <pandamonium> is there a command that lists devices and which applications are currently using them?
[03:44] <DarkSYN> brb, restarting X
[03:44] <adminx> lsusb
[03:44] <ubuntu> pandamonium,  chk the process viewer
[03:44] <tanath> oli: what's 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' say?
[03:44] <adminx> lspci
[03:44] <jenda> DarkSYN: Dynamic, but the uptime is usually long, and I don't mind changing it from time to time if it's easier.
[03:44] <tanath> pandamonium: lsof
[03:44] <pandamonium> process viewer?
[03:44] <pandamonium> ah, ta
[03:44] <oli> rambo3: how do i check those?
[03:44] <tanath> pandamonium: i recommend lsof |grep blah
[03:44] <rambo3> oli what router do you have ?
[03:45] <babyubuntu> is that usual?
[03:45] <oli> tanath: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[03:45] <oli> rambo3: a d-link
[03:45] <babyubuntu> it crashes after i access window xp's files
[03:45] <tanath> oli: prolly your router then
[03:45] <Timothy_> does anyone know how to detect a sound card?
[03:46] <tanath> oli: er, no actually..
[03:46] <babyubuntu> T_T
[03:46] <xerxas> How do I remove empty lines with vi ?
[03:46] <oli> rambo3: it works on this comp, which is xp, and it woked yesterday before i installed linux
[03:46] <xerxas> 1,$d/^$/ ?
[03:46] <pandamonium> thanks tanath
[03:46] <tanath> oli: here's a thought... have you tried another ethernet port on your router? :P
[03:46] <weswh-> does synaptic have Sun's JRE 1.5? I have a program telling me i am using java 1.4.2 and apparently that isn't good enough
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Timothy_: First, tell us what sound card/chipset you have.. probably onboard something
[03:47] <tanath> oli: oh.
[03:47] <weswh-> (azureus, installed through synaptic - it installed java with it i believe)
[03:47] <tanath> weswh-: depends on what's in your repositories listed /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:47] <rambo3> ok open browser from your windows machine and type : http://192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1
[03:47] <Timothy_> Ok, Jack: It's a Ensoniq soundscape OPUS 3016
[03:47] <weswh-> tanath - i have universe and multiverse, if that is what you mean
[03:47] <weswh-> i am just not sure what to look for in here
[03:48] <tanath> weswh-: yeh, there's more you can add, like free and non-free
[03:48] <tanath> wasabi_: sun java isn't 'free'
[03:48] <pandamonium> unfortunately i haven't been able to solve my problem :( i thought it would tell me what was locking my sound card
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Timothy_: going to terminal and typing lspci do you see it in the list
[03:48] <weswh-> tanath - right, but the repos i have contained things like the mp3 codecs, so it would probably be here somewhere..
[03:48] <SikaJussi> Anyone have any idea about that installer problem I have?
[03:49] <tanath> !java
[03:49] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:49] <Timothy_> Nope
[03:49] <tanath> weswh-: ^ there you go
[03:49] <oli> tanath: any ideas what else i can try?
[03:49] <weswh-> i found it. thank you!
[03:49] <easytiger> anyone see the "BROWZAR" fuss?
[03:49] <tanath> weswh-: np
[03:50] <tanath> easytiger: yeh
[03:50] <tanath> easytiger: i'm happy with firefox :)
[03:50] <rambo3> oli : sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
 how did it get in the press?
[03:50] <Timothy_> I just remembered that I swpped it for a newer one, but it can't find that one either
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Timothy_: Have you googled your sound info and linux ?
 it runs on wine under windows
[03:50] <tanath> oli: pain in the ass you can't paste output... :P
[03:50] <easytiger> sorry.. linux
[03:51] <pandamonium> ah, wrong sound driver being used
[03:51] <tanath> easytiger: why would i want to when i have firefox, and opera if i don't want to/can't use it for some reason?
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Hobbsee: What did you need
[03:51] <oli> tanath: i know sorry... it only says SIOCADDRT: File exists
[03:51] <babyubuntu> :-/ copying fonts to the folder
[03:51] <easytiger> no.. i mean.. how did it get to be a BBC news article.. its spyware stuff
[03:51] <Timothy_> Well, I found out that the manufacturer has gone bankrupt, so I can't check their page
[03:51] <babyubuntu> :-/ hope it works
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Timothy_: Discount bin eh?
[03:52] <redondo81> Do you know how can I remove a program?
[03:52] <Kwong> Hi, can anyone tell me what's wrong with the repositories?
[03:52] <Kwong> i couldnt update
[03:53] <tanath> easytiger: the authors prolly sent a 'news release' to everyone
[03:53] <tanath> easytiger: proves they don't always check things
[03:53] <redondo81> the command to remove an application?
[03:53] <tanath> redondo81: why not use synaptic?
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Timothy_: Sorry I dont have an aswer for that.  With the mfg out of biz and no docs available you may have a tough time getting that sound card to work since no new drivers will be available forit
[03:53] <oli> rambo3 : i only get SIOCADDRT: File exists
[03:53] <Timothy_> Hold on a minute: brb
 yea. is annoying
[03:54] <redondo81> because it doesn,t remove it(kbfx)
[03:54] <tanath> redondo81: you can use 'sudo apt-get remove application'
[03:54] <minerale> Hi, I'm trying to setup firefox to use alsa, launching aoss firefox yields me no sound at all, where might I go for help ?
[03:54] <tanath> redondo81: why not?
[03:54] <rambo3> oli it says its allready configured then
[03:54] <Kwong> errh, can anyone tell me why i couldnt update anything? the status was failed
[03:54] <babyubuntu> how do i play a xxx.mpg video?
[03:54] <redondo81> I don't kow, I remove it with synaptic,but it remains there
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !mpg
[03:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <babyubuntu> ok
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> redondo81: How was it installed?
[03:55] <babyubuntu> T_T
[03:55] <adminx> For sound also try: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022&highlight=flash+sound+firefox
[03:55] <redondo81> I compiled it from the source
[03:55] <tanath> redondo81: try 'sudo apt-get remove kbfx' and see what it says
[03:55] <tanath> ah
[03:55] <tanath> redondo81: then 'make uninstall'
[03:56] <linuchsan> Kwong:what is the error you get?
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> tanath: Hi..
[03:56] <oli> rambo3 : so it appears with everything i can check! but when i try and do something beyond ping, it always times out
[03:56] <Kwong> linuchsan: sort of like couldnt connect to the repositories
[03:57] <oli> tanath: is there anything else i can try please?
[03:57] <redondo81> nothing,It tells me it doesn't find the package
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Kwong: HAve you modified your sources list?
[03:57] <Kwong> Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> oli: You can ping but not surf?
[03:57] <tanath> oli: here's a thought, switch network cables. make your linux box take the place of your current one. see if it works
[03:57] <Kwong> Jack_Sparrow: that's one of the error message
[03:57] <oli> jack_sparrow: exactly
[03:57] <tanath> Jack_Sparrow: hi..
[03:58] <oli> tanath: they are both wireless
[03:58] <tanath> ah
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> oli: Put this in browser 216.239.39.99
[03:58] <tanath> not much experience with wireless
[03:58] <linuchsan> Kwong:that one is empty
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> oli: Sorry if you tried that already
[03:59] <Kwong> iled to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Connection failed
[03:59] <rambo3> oli buy any chance did you install any firewall . Port fowarding in router for linux (its ip) is configured http://www.dslwebserver.com/main/sbs-port-forward-dlink-704p.html
[03:59] <Kwong> linuchsan: that's what i got when i apt-get update
[03:59] <tRSS> I am about to install vista on my free space. I am sure, vista would over write my boot loader (grub) from the mbr. how can I install the boot loader?
[03:59] <tanath> tRSS: make a grub boot disk
[04:00] <tRSS> tanath: how can I do that?
[04:00] <tanath> !mbr
[04:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:00] <looktj> where do i get better irc client, giam sucks
[04:00] <oli-> tanath: i just tried to type in 216.239.39.99  and it gave me google... does that mean it's a DNS thing?
[04:00] <ScribbleJ> tRSS, those are good guides.  PErsonally I just keep a knoppix disk around for emergencies.
[04:00] <tRSS> thanks tanath!
[04:00] <tanath> looktj: use xchat
[04:00] <ScribbleJ> looktj, try xchat
[04:00] <tanath> tRSS: np
[04:00] <ScribbleJ> apt-get install xchat
[04:01] <looktj> ok
[04:01] <tanath> looktj: you should already have it
[04:01] <tRSS> I try to do that too ScribbleJ, I just can't find my live cd
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Kwong: that is the second time today we have seen that error... Have you modified your sources list?
[04:01] <looktj> i perfer aptitude
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> oli-: yes
[04:01] <sentient6> how do i uninstall ubuntu? i have it installed with windows xp.. i want my original windows xp-only state again.. what should i do?
[04:01] <tanath> oli-: yes
[04:01] <Kwong> Jack_Sparrow: no i havent
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Are you behind a router...
[04:01] <oli-> jack_sparrow: do you know what the problem is then?
[04:01] <tanath> oli-: i said that before
[04:01] <tanath> oli-: :)
[04:01] <Kwong> Jack_Sparrow: yeah i'm behind a router
[04:02] <Kwong> Jack_Sparrow: my mate couldnt update his edgy as well
[04:02] <babyubuntu> sentient6 delete the partition
[04:02] <Colorfool> is fetchmail the best mail fetching server?
[04:02] <sentient6> babyubuntu: what bout the bootloader?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> oli-: rambo gave you a link to setup port forwarding on your dlink,, I have the same dlink
[04:02] <oli-> tanath: thanks! sorry if i missed it. do you know what i need to do to make it recognise urls?
[04:02] <sentient6> i want xp-only
[04:02] <ScribbleJ> sentient6, the *easiest* way is going ot be to just reinstall Windows.Oli, I have that same problem every two months, like clockwork.  My existing connections (like to IRC) are OK, I can ping, but I cannot connect to anything new.
[04:02] <tanath> oli-: fix your dns? :P
[04:02] <Kwong> Jack_Sparrow: do you know what could go wrong in my situation?
[04:02] <ScribbleJ> bah
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> oli-: 192.168.0.1 in browser
[04:03] <ScribbleJ> Oli, I have that same problem every two months, like clockwork.  My existing connections (like to IRC) are OK, I can ping, but I cannot connect to anything new.  You want ot knwo what it is for me?
[04:03] <oli-> jack_sparrow: my router is at 1.1
[04:03] <oli-> but i'll log in
[04:03] <ScribbleJ> Oli: It's that I didnt' pay my cable bill.  Those are the symptoms when I get disconnected by Comcast.
[04:03] <fabio> ma dove posso trovare qualcosa in italiano aiuto????
[04:03] <sentient6> ScribbleJ: i dont want to reinstall windows
[04:03] <sentient6> :/
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[04:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:04] <ScribbleJ> sentient6, Well, you can delete your linux partitions, run fdisk /mbr in windows, and then make new windows parititons (or use some utility to resize your windows paritions to fill the disk again)
[04:04] <oli-> scribblej : i've payed my bills! i am connecting from same router on a dif comp atm
[04:04] <fabio> ma e sempre un server giusto?
[04:04] <looktj> thanks for xchat
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> oli-: is that other pv running windows
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> pc
[04:05] <speedo_> hy guys
[04:05] <zblach> morning all
[04:05] <Kwong> someone can help me?
[04:05] <looktj> i wanna host an irc server on my box
[04:05] <sentient6> ScribbleJ: i'm talking about the mbr.. what about the grub bootloader? i want the original windows only state to be reloaded
[04:05] <Kwong> looktj: download hybrid-ircd
[04:05] <tanath> Jack_Sparrow: yes, his pc is on win
[04:06] <lisuyun> I am a new hand
[04:06] <looktj> ircd are a pain in the butt
[04:06] <Kwong> looktj: or ultimate but you have to configure yourself
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> oli-: Turn on port forwarding
[04:06] <speedo_> is there anyone who can tell me how install a  generic webcam?
[04:06] <ScribbleJ> sentient6, grub is either in the MBR or on your Linux parition.  If it's on the linux parititon then you probably get the Windows bootloader first anyhow, no worries.  If it's in the MBR then you just fdisk /mbr
[04:06] <looktj> to setup
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[04:06] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:06] <Kwong> looktj: it's not pain, it's fairly simple to configure tho
[04:06] <tRSS> I read the url about re-installing grub. I don't have an ubuntu cd with me right now. I have a Mandriva Live CD, can I use this cd to re-install grub?
[04:06] <linuchsan> Kwong:can you post your sources.list
[04:06] <sentient6> ScribbleJ: are you sure it will work? i dont want to screw up my windows installation.. i REALLY dont
[04:06] <looktj> Kwong: what's better for a newb
[04:06] <tanath> tRSS: should be able to
[04:07] <ScribbleJ> sentient6, if you *REALLY* don't, don't take advice from random strangers on the internet -- pay someone to fix it.
[04:07] <lisuyun> q
[04:07] <lisuyun> quit
[04:07] <lisuyun> exit
[04:07] <ScribbleJ> But it *should* be perfectly safe and proper.  If your computer explodes, it's not my fault.
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> sentient6: yes booting windows cd to prompt and fdisk /mbr will return to XP land
[04:07] <tRSS> tanath: sounds good, let me try it then.
[04:07] <japo> HELLO EVERBODY I'M NEW AT LINUX SO I GONNE ASK THIS I DONT CAN SCHANCE MY REOSLTIE ONYMORE HOW MUST I FIX IT ITS NOW ON 640 480 EN HY DONT WONNE HIGHER
[04:07] <sentient6> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[04:07] <sentient6> thanks ScribbleJ
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:07] <tanath> !caps
[04:07] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps
[04:07] <japo> ok its out now
[04:07] <Andre4s> resolution problem. I got a 19" flat screen. I need to set the resolution to 1280x1024. When I look at System->settings->screen resolution I have some diffrent modes. But the higest is 1024x768. I tried to edit xorg.conf and added my prefered resolution in the "Screen" section. Still the same resolution. What can I do now?
[04:08] <Kwong> looktj: hybrid it's pre-configure for deb user, you can use that
[04:08] <something_else> people, I updated wpa_supplicant last night, and now find that wpa_supplicant no longer works with madwifi
[04:08] <something_else> is there a fix for this?
[04:08] <something_else> I cant revert wpa_supplicant either due to lack of internet connection
[04:08] <ScribbleJ> Andre4s, did you restart X11 afer making the changes to Xorg.conf?
[04:08] <Andre4s> ScribbleJ, yes
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Andre4s: Did you install the drivers for your card? or are you still under vesa
[04:08] <japo> but how must i fix my resolitite problem
[04:08] <Kwong> looktj: sudo apt-cache search hybrid for the exact package
[04:08] <ScribbleJ> Andre4s, I'd start by looking for information pertianing to that resolution in your x log
[04:08] <Colorfool> is fetchmail the best mail fetching server?
[04:08] <japo> i hate this resoltie
[04:09] <Andre4s> Jack_Sparrow, I have just installed Ubuntu, nothing more
[04:09] <something_else> I cant revert wpa_supplicant either due to lack of internet connection
[04:09] <ScribbleJ> less /var/log/Xorx.0.log
[04:09] <something_else> people, I updated wpa_supplicant last night, and now find that wpa_supplicant no longer works with madwifi
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Andre4s: What video card?
[04:09] <ScribbleJ> er... s/x/g/
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[04:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <Andre4s> nvidia something
[04:09] <something_else> is there a fix for this?
[04:09] <Andre4s> Jack_Sparrow, nvidia something
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Andre4s: Start with that link
[04:09] <linuchsan> Colorfool:yes
[04:09] <tanath> oli-, go to Apps > System Tools > Configure network card. got that there?
[04:10] <japo> but first my resolitite was 800x600 but now it is 640x480 and i dont can chance it "S
[04:10] <ScribbleJ> cd /mnt/filestore/porn
[04:10] <ScribbleJ> Oops... this isn't my terminal.
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:10] <tanath> japo, press CTRL ALT +
[04:10] <munch> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu, but i've having some problems installing xfce, could anyone help me out?
[04:10] <tanath> japo, that do anything?
[04:11] <tanath> japo, (on the numpad)
[04:11] <japo> no
[04:11] <yacek19> welcome
[04:11] <VoX> will xgl work with TwinView?
[04:11] <tanath> japo, then you need to configure X
[04:11] <japo> and how?
[04:11] <japo> i am new :P
[04:11] <ScribbleJ> Munch, what kind of problems?  Also, good luck about your paintings being retreived, eh?
[04:11] <tanath> !x
[04:11] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:11] <tanath> japo, ^
[04:12] <yacek19> how to omit some packages during apt-get upgrade??
[04:12] <japo> thx a lot
[04:12] <japo> i try it
[04:12] <japo> if it dont work i come back
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[04:12] <munch> could i pm you scribble?
[04:12] <tanath> someone should fix that '?dm'
[04:12] <ScribbleJ> munch, you'll do MUCH better to just ask here in channel.
[04:12] <munch> ok
[04:12] <tanath> ppl will take it literally
[04:12] <munch> wait a sec
[04:13] <VoX> tanath: heh
[04:13] <munch> i'll just try again
[04:13] <ScribbleJ> munch: I only know so much... but everyone here together knows quite a bit.
[04:13] <oli> sorry! i got stuck out
[04:13] <VoX> "OMG i typed "?dm" and it didnt woerk!
[04:13] <Colorfool> is fetchmail the best mail fetching server?
[04:13] <tanath> VoX, well it doesn't specify that ? should be replaced. meh
[04:14] <oli> so it's the DNS options in my router then?
[04:14] <linuchsan> Colorfool:yes
[04:14] <something_else> people, wpa_supplicant seems to no longer support madwifi ... no wpa ... what can I do to solve this?
[04:14] <munch> 1 question, does xfce use heaps less cpu then gnome
[04:14] <tanath> oli, prolly
[04:14] <VoX> tanath: yeah i know, i'm just imagining the possibilities.. :)
[04:15] <tanath> munch, should
[04:15] <munch> ok
[04:15] <tanath> munch, xfce is lightweight
[04:15] <munch> i have everything required for installation of xfce
[04:15] <sentient6> does windows xp support fdisk?
[04:15] <tanath> munch, if you need something lighter there are others..
[04:16] <sentient6> i'm getting a bad command or file name.. something
[04:16] <tanath> munch, like fluxbox
[04:16] <sentient6> does windows xp support fdisk?
[04:16] <munch> hmm ok
[04:16] <munch> firstlyl i'll try out xfce
[04:16] <linuchsan> sentient6:no
[04:16] <ScribbleJ> asdf;lkj!
[04:16] <tanath> munch, or icewm
[04:16] <ScribbleJ> How do you fdisk /mbr on XP?
[04:16] <tanath> munch, but those are seriously lightweight
[04:16] <sentient6> ScribbleJ: there's no fdisk at all
[04:17] <linuchsan> ScribbleJ:you have to start in dos first
[04:17] <ScribbleJ> sentient6, how totally annoying!
[04:17] <sentient6> linuchsan: thats a 98 feature, not xp
[04:17] <munch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/223270 <-- i get that error when trying to install xfce
[04:17] <sentient6> ScribbleJ: too late :s
[04:17] <sentient6> i'll try n work something out though
[04:17] <ScribbleJ> I'm sooo glad I don't use that OS... it just gets more and more painful to use every year from what I can see.
[04:17] <ScribbleJ> Good luck to you sir.
[04:17] <sentient6> thanks
[04:17] <oli> tanath: so i go into my router and i'm at the DNS config page, it says: "dns relay selection": use auto dicovered dns server only, is that what i want?
[04:18] <looktj> someone help me config hybrid
[04:18] <Bob_the_Cannibal> I have a hardware question: I have a Powerbook g3 Wallstreet (old world, I know), I hit the reset combo because os9 froze. when it came back up, it had all the symptoms of the PMU being crapped out: the system fan wouldn't come on, it won't start off of battery (but it will run off of one), and the little power LED won't come on.
[04:18] <lothwen> is ubuntu etch usable in powerpc arch ?
[04:18] <Bob_the_Cannibal> is there any way to reset the PMU in software?
[04:18] <tanath> oli, uh, no.. your router is resolving fine if your winbox works
[04:18] <lothwen> I saw that many packages will be removed ....
[04:18] <wasabi_> lothwen: There is no such thing as Ubuntu Etch.
[04:18] <tanath> munch, why not use synaptic?
[04:18] <lothwen> ups, edgy
[04:19] <lothwen> :P
[04:19] <munch> how do i install xfce in synaptic
[04:19] <tanath> munch, to install it
[04:19] <wasabi_> ANd yes. All Ubuntu versions have had a powerpc port.
[04:19] <Timothy_> I'm back
[04:19] <kishore> hi
[04:19] <Timothy_> Hi
[04:20] <Timothy_> Jack?
[04:20] <Bob_the_Cannibal> the book works in ubuntu, using bootx, but I was wondering if there was any way I could force the PMU to a certain state
[04:21] <noyou> Hello, with an 80GB Hard Disk. How should I make my partitions? I want multiple ones. you know ,one for /usr, one for /home, one for /etc... etc..
[04:21] <oli> tanath: also, in the network settings it has the adress of my router as the only dns server listed?
[04:21] <oli> any other ideas as to what could be stoping the DNS working properly?
[04:22] <tanath> oli, that should be fine
[04:22] <ScribbleJ> oli, did you determiine it's only DNS problems?  You knwo from the commandline you can nslookup google.com XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
[04:22] <ScribbleJ> Where xxx... is an address of a dns server
[04:22] <tanath> ScribbleJ, he can ping, but not resolve properly
[04:22] <ScribbleJ> So try... nslookup google.com 192.168.1.1 (didn't you say that's your router?)
[04:22] <Bob_the_Cannibal> 4.2.2.3 is a good DNS server I can easily remember
[04:23] <janbanan> How do I list running processes so I can kill one of them?
[04:23] <tanath> janbanan, ps -ef
[04:23] <ScribbleJ> And if that doesn't work... it'll tell you your router isn't resolving OK for you, and it' sthe real culprit
[04:23] <digitalhav0c> hey could some one tell me how to change the kernel patha
[04:23] <erUSUL> janbanan: ps ax
[04:23] <digitalhav0c> im trying to compile the madwifi drivers
[04:23] <hadi> hi
[04:23] <ScribbleJ> And you rother machine, Oli, might be working because it's not using the same machine for DNS resolution.
[04:23] <kishore> i am unable to find data.. (not visible .. ) in my corresponding windows drives..
[04:24] <janbanan> And what do I type to kill a process?
[04:24] <digitalhav0c> its giving me  KERNELPATH: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build does not exist. but i just down loaded the 2.6.15.26.686 kernel
[04:24] <tanath> janbanan, either kill PID, or killall processname
[04:24] <hadi> I have problem with firefox: is close himself after open new tap
[04:24] <tanath> janbanan, PID = process ID #
[04:24] <tanath> janbanan, seen is ps output
[04:24] <Timothy_> My sound card is now "AzTech 2320", but still no luck detecting it
[04:24] <tanath> *seen in
[04:24] <erUSUL> digitalhav0c: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:24] <oli> sorry, i think i missed some stuff
[04:24] <lothwen> I want to know if someone has ubuntu edgy installed in powerpc and how stable is it.
[04:24] <ScribbleJ> digitalhav0c, you don't need the kernel so much as you need the kernel headers and such
[04:24] <kishore> can any one help..
[04:25] <janbanan> tanath: thanks mate
[04:25] <ScribbleJ> digitalhav0c, What erSUL said. :)
[04:25] <tanath> janbanan, np
[04:25] <hadi> firefox close himself after open new tap :(
[04:25] <digitalhav0c> if i uname -r gives me 2.6.15-26-386 but i wanted to use 686
[04:26] <jdmpike> how do I reset my mysql password for the root account if I forgot it?
[04:26] <ladydoor> digitalhav0c: you can still install 686
[04:26] <ladydoor> digitalhav0c: you'll need to reboot
[04:26] <longwave> jdmpike: read http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[04:26] <ladydoor> !686
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 686 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <jdmpike> longwave, thanks
[04:26] <oli> does anyone know what is wrong with my DNS?
[04:26] <hadi> firefox close himself after open new tap :(
[04:26] <tanath> oli, i have to go now, so can't be much more help. sorry
[04:26] <kishore> i am unable to find data.. (not visible .. ) in my corresponding windows drives..(this showing hda's empty
[04:27] <oli> tanath : no worrries, thanks very much helping me find theproblem tho! now to solve it
[04:27] <digitalhav0c> oh well the make is working now
[04:27] <noyou> Damn it. I'm gonna create these partitions: /, /tmp, /var, /usr, /usr/local, /home. Whats the advisable size for an 80gb disk? Please, I'm on the livecd right now, waiting for answers :P
[04:27] <digitalhav0c> so oh well 686 :(
[04:27] <hadi> firefox close himself after open new tap :(
[04:27] <ladydoor> noyou: no need to curse
[04:28] <noyou> ladydoor: hehe, ok :) d
[04:28] <ladydoor> noyou: personally, i have about 8 GB for / and everything else (other than swap) is /home
[04:28] <exarkun> the linux-source-2.6.15 source package does not contain include/version.h.  Why not?
[04:28] <ladydoor> noyou: i don't know that /var, /tmp, /usr, or /usr/local are really *necessary*
[04:29] <ladydoor> noyou: but /usr is where program binaries and documentation go
[04:29] <noyou> ladydoor: they are not _necessary_ but its better to have them organised like that, for easier maintenance and better control.
[04:29] <ladydoor> noyou: so it should probably be several GB and / should be smaller
[04:29] <dmsantam> ladydoor, i don't think dpkg will work without /var
[04:29] <dmsantam> ladydoor, apt rather. dpkg _might_ work
[04:29] <oli> if ff is respinding to ip addresses but times out when i type in a website, what is the problem?
[04:30] <HaaL-> hi all
[04:30] <ladydoor> dmsantam: but you don't need it on a separate partition from /
[04:30] <dmsantam> ladydoor, that's true
[04:30] <dmsantam> ladydoor, i must have missed the context of the conversation :)
[04:30] <ladydoor> dmsantam: if you don't make a partition for it, it will be in your / partition in the /var folder
[04:30] <HaaL-> I'm trying to make an wifi USB dongle work in kubuntu 6.06
[04:30] <noyou> And I cant find a howto in the forums or wiki too.
[04:30] <void^> oli: see if you can find your isp's dns server address in your router, and use it in resolv.conf instead of your router ip
[04:30] <ladydoor> dmsantam: ah. noyou is asking about a partition scheme
[04:30] <dmsantam> ladydoor, got it :)
[04:30] <ladydoor> :-)
[04:31] <HaaL-> trying to follow this:http://kerneltrap.org/node/5470#comment-199083
[04:31] <hadi> firefox close himself after open new tap :(
[04:31] <oli> void^ : would it be something like 194.72.9.34?
[04:32] <void^> oli: possible
[04:32] <Kryczek> Hi guys! Can somebody please answer me: I can't seem to find what exactly is in the Ubuntu Server distro, apart from LAMP... For example, does it have X11 ?
[04:32] <HaaL-> I get an error when trying to compile, can anyone help me please?
[04:32] <void^> Kryczek: same repos, so same software available as desktop
[04:32] <oli> void^ : is resolve.conf the same as dns server options under network settings, or where do i need to find it?
[04:32] <Kryczek> void^: yeah but I mean directly off the livecd
[04:32] <void^> oli: /etc/resolve.conf, don't know about gui
[04:33] <Jeruvy> Kryczek: the server is the same as the others, it' just allows you a text only install and a LAMP install.
[04:33] <void^> i doubt the server cd comes with X (wouldn't make any sense), but i don't know.
[04:33] <Kryczek> void^: yeah, that's why I asked :)
[04:33] <Jeruvy> void^: it does
[04:33] <Kryczek> cause I want a desktop with LAMP
[04:33] <void^> well, that's funny.
[04:34] <Kryczek> and it's true that I occasionally run into problems while setting up mysql, and sometimes even apache
[04:34] <oli> void^ if i just type  /etc/resolve.conf into the console it says no such file or directory?
[04:34] <Kryczek> so I thought if Ubuntu Server was Ubuntu Desktop + LAMP, why not :D
[04:34] <jenda> I need help connecting my two Ubuntu PCs (Dapper-Edgy) so that I can browse one through the other's nautilus. Please help ;)
[04:34] <jenda> I'm getting 'login failed' errors
[04:34] <void^> oli: it's a text file. you use a text editor to edit it. and use sudo.
[04:34] <jenda> When I attempt SSH
[04:35] <HaaL-> does anyone have a 3COM 3CRUSB10075 working in ubuntu?
[04:36] <ladydoor> oli: try ls /etc/resolv.conf
[04:36] <hadi> firefox close himself after open new tap :(
[04:36] <Kryczek> void^: one last question: with the Ubuntu Desktop livecd, when you install you can select which components it will install, or it copies the whole livecd? Cause here I have a 1GB hdd, and omitting OpenOffice etc could help
[04:36] <hadi> no idia?
[04:36] <Kryczek> hadi: upgrade firefox
[04:36] <ladydoor> hadi: there are native language support channels
[04:36] <ladydoor> hadi: as well
[04:36] <speedo_> guys
[04:37] <jungsonn> hy there
[04:37] <speedo_> i tried to install esaycam2
[04:37] <jungsonn> does anyone have knowledge about evolution mail?
[04:37] <jenda> Darwin might...
[04:37] <ladydoor> lol
[04:37] <cosmos`cu> I am using ubuntu, i just installed my nvidia drivers with synaptic.  How can i figure out why they didnt work?
[04:37] <speedo_> but when i launch it beginning the drivers installation it crashes
[04:38] <jungsonn> problem: i booted, and evolution mailo started, but it opened about 75 times :( and is still doing it.
[04:39] <CmdrBatGuano> I'm running dapper alternate install, and when I select guided partitioning the system hangs. I checked the disk and everything is intact.
[04:39] <Lobster> kill it...
[04:39] <jungsonn> can't almost, goes so fast
[04:39] <Lobster> jungsonn try controll+alt+ESC
[04:39] <donrosin> chmod: changing permissions of /var/www operation not permissed
[04:39] <donrosin> im root
[04:39] <CmdrBatGuano> jungsonn: in terminal, sudo pkill evolution
[04:39] <billybennett> hey guys, I'm trying to burn a data dvd and Ive tried 3 times and its finished 3 times but every time I put it back in I see nothing
[04:39] <donrosin> what is the probelem?
[04:39] <Lobster> or if you can open a terminal killall evolution
[04:40] <jungsonn> ok that an idea but when i booted i even could go to the terminal :(
[04:40] <kishore> hi all
[04:40] <kishore> i got a problem here.
[04:40] <Kwong> hi does anyone know how to install/configure WAP on Ubuntu?
[04:40] <jungsonn> first time linux halted :)  really bizar...
[04:40] <jungsonn> i meant: i could get intop the terminal
[04:40] <HaaL-> please could you tell me what this compiling error mean? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22331
[04:40] <Lobster> jungsonn you can change with controll+alt+F1
[04:41] <jungsonn> oh darn! yes...
[04:41] <jungsonn> :D
[04:41] <jungsonn> thanks!
[04:41] <kishore> jus now i had booted on to my ubuntu now i am unable to find . any of my data..in windows partitions..(showing as.. free space)
[04:41] <kishore> can any one help me
[04:41] <Kryczek> HaaL-: you declared a variable after code
[04:41] <CmdrBatGuano> kishore: can windows boot?
[04:41] <Kryczek> HaaL-: in C you can only declare variables before code
[04:41] <jungsonn> thank you all, im gonna try it
[04:41] <kishore> CmdrBatGuano, ya
[04:42] <HaaL-> thanks you, but it wasn't me. I'm trying to compile official drivers from 3COM
[04:42] <kishore> CmdrBatGuano, my windows is full of virus
[04:42] <jenda> I need help connecting my two Ubuntu PCs (Dapper-Edgy) so that I can browse one through the other's nautilus. Please help ;) I've been attempting through openSSH, but i get login failed errors.
[04:42] <Kryczek> HaaL-: is there another line before? cause normally this is only a warning
[04:42] <someusernoob> !ubuntu
[04:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:42] <Kryczek> should not stop the compiler
[04:43] <Kryczek> unless they specified -Werror
[04:43] <CmdrBatGuano> kishore: do you think that might have something to do with it?
[04:43] <glassbits> does xgl work on Via UniChrome IGP ?
[04:43] <Languid> question: if i have dapper drake, will i have all the latest features from the new version (edgy knot) if i just keep my software updated?
[04:43] <CmdrBatGuano> kishore: some really old school viruses mess with the filesystem (CIH comes to mind)
[04:43] <HaaL-> here is the whole process I followed: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/KTMJHf35.html
[04:43] <someusernoob> languid: no
[04:43] <kishore> CmdrBatGuano, probably not
[04:43] <Kryczek> Languid: what's edgy knot? 6.06.1 ?
[04:43] <ladydoor> Languid: no. edgy is still in heavy development and will not be released until october
[04:43] <Kryczek> k
[04:43] <ladydoor> Kryczek: it's like dapper flights, i think
[04:44] <Languid> someusernoob, ok...but i guess what imean is that when the next stable version is released, will i have to install it or can i just update the software on my existing install?
[04:44] <Kryczek> ladydoor: "under development" already answered me, but thanks again :)
[04:44] <ladydoor> Languid: in fact, getting software updates from edgy could do fun things like temporarily break your xserver
[04:44] <ladydoor> Kryczek: np :-)
[04:45] <ladydoor> Languid: yeah, you can update from dapper
[04:45] <kishore> CmdrBatGuano, is there solution for this.. problem. .i am unable to know wot actually happend
[04:45] <someusernoob> languid; yes, you can upgrade your excisting installation, should do it without a problem
[04:45] <Languid> ladydoor, ok good, otherwise that would be retarded
[04:45] <Languid> sweet, thanks :)
[04:45] <ladydoor> Languid: instructions will be posted all over the website, wiki, and forums when it's the right time
[04:45] <CmdrBatGuano> kishore:I'm as lost as you are
[04:45] <Kryczek> ladydoor: one answer I've been waiting for though, and which you could probably answer me: when you install from the livecd, can you select which components will be installed or does it copy the whole livecd to the hdd?
[04:45] <Languid> ladydoor, danke
[04:45] <ladydoor> Languid: also...retarded? that's really rude
[04:45] <kishore> CmdrBatGuano, hmm k
[04:45] <Languid> ladydoor, sorry, i didn't mean any offense
[04:45] <Languid> i actually have a retarded brother
[04:46] <ladydoor> Languid: np. oh. lol. sorry
[04:46] <ladydoor> Kryczek: i don't recall being able to selectt what packages are installed...i had to manually uninstall gnome, for example
[04:46] <Kryczek> ladydoor: ouch :( any idea how much space it takes on the drive? cause I was thinking on doing it on a spare 1GB drive
[04:47] <CmdrBatGuano> alternate installer still won't start guided partitioning
[04:47] <HaaL-> Kryczek could you look at http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/KTMJHf35.html please?
[04:47] <Kryczek> but I also want to put LAMP on it
[04:47] <donrosin> why can i not connect to my bnc server? The right port is openen
[04:47] <Kryczek> HaaL-: yeah sorry
[04:47] <Lobster> you can install the server-edition and install any WM you like
[04:47] <ladydoor> Kryczek: sorry, i don't know how much it installs
[04:47] <speedo_> guys
[04:47] <speedo_>  i tried easycam2
[04:47] <StoneNote> question: how do I determine the resource utilization (cpu usage;disk access;etc) for a process? is there a means to log this informaiton?
[04:47] <speedo_> but i doesn't work
[04:47] <Kryczek> HaaL-: uhh.. could you please put english messages?
[04:48] <Kryczek> ladydoor: ok, np, thanks :)
[04:48] <speedo_> so i just installed easycam(1)
[04:48] <cosmos`cu> I am using ubuntu, i just installed my nvidia drivers with synaptic.  How can i figure out why they didnt work?
[04:48] <speedo_> it seems working well
[04:48] <someusernoob> is there an installation/grub expert here?
[04:48] <ladydoor> Kryczek: lobster's sever-install suggestion is good though :-)
[04:48] <[NP] Tangent> hey guys, I'm having some problems
[04:48] <CmdrBatGuano> aren't we all
[04:49] <someusernoob> lol
[04:49] <[NP] Tangent> it seems that X.org won't boot up when I don't have my monitor attached
[04:49] <Lobster> for sure... my suggestions are always good :)
[04:49] <sioux> people I have a dell laptop where ubuntu runs not well in terms of usb port. Any of you has tested ubuntu on dell
[04:49] <Kryczek> ladydoor: I think that's what I'm gonna for in the end... the server install with LAMP, and I'll add fluxbox or something
[04:49] <erUSUL> |nvidia > cosmos`cu
[04:49] <someusernoob> [np] tanget: yep, becasue he can not locate a monitor, so he does not load x
[04:49] <[NP] Tangent> X.org throws out a fatal error, No Monitor Found
[04:49] <[NP] Tangent> but I'm using a laptop
[04:49] <CmdrBatGuano> [NP] : are you sure both monitors want the same scanrate?
[04:49] <donrosin> is it a firewall on ubuntu?
[04:50] <HaaL-> of course
[04:50] <Timothy_> Does anybody use an AzTech 2320 sound card
[04:50] <ladydoor> Kryczek: sweet
[04:50] <sioux> firestarter is very nice
[04:50] <Timothy_> ?
[04:50] <CmdrBatGuano> donrosin: iptables, comes with all linuxes
[04:50] <fdoving> donrosin: not by default.
[04:50] <donrosin> hmm
[04:50] <donrosin> i cannot connect to  my bnc server :S
[04:50] <CmdrBatGuano> donrosin: firestarter is just a nice configuration interface
[04:50] <donrosin> i get connection refused
[04:50] <sioux> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[04:50] <[NP] Tangent> Cmdr, when I have the other monitor plugged in, both monitors work
[04:51] <[NP] Tangent> but now I am trying to just use the built in monitor, and it's causing X.org to  fail
[04:51] <npster> What is the web browser that downloads every source code of every page visited even tho, the function for viewing the page's source is disabled???
[04:51] <SkyNeT> ok guyz i need your help
[04:51] <speedo_> how can i test if my webcam really works?
[04:51] <wasabi_> npster: It'd be hard for a browser to view a page without having the source.
[04:51] <SkyNeT> am in live cd
[04:51] <crashd> sigh. does anyone happen to have a copy of the original sources.list handy, ubuntu seems to think there's some broken packages
[04:51] <SkyNeT> and i formated my computer
[04:51] <ragustin> can anyone help me? i am very new to ubuntu... and i cant stall a package...
[04:51] <crashd> and i don't know why ;\
[04:52] <SkyNeT> with a 40GB hard drive
[04:52] <frogzoo> !easysource > crashd
[04:52] <ScribbleJ> speedo, open command line... type mplayer /dev/video0
[04:52] <SkyNeT> i formated 20GB of it for windows xp
[04:52] <[NP] Tangent> help, I need my GUI back... this irssi thing is rather annoying, to be honest
[04:52] <crashd> frogzoo: yeah, i tried that for something, and that's what's telling me that i have a broken package
[04:52] <SkyNeT> and 20 is unforamted
[04:52] <ScribbleJ> Er... is mplayer on the LiveCD?
[04:52] <erUSUL> !synaptic > ragustin
[04:52] <Doodluv> ragustin: what are you using to install? synaptic?
[04:52] <someusernoob> scribblej: no
[04:53] <frogzoo> crashd: that's not a problem with the sources list...
[04:53] <SkyNeT> how do i set it up so it pick on start up if i want windows xp or ubuntu
[04:53] <crashd> well, ive installed next to nothing, this is a spanking new install
[04:53] <ScribbleJ> Er... what can he use to view /dev/video?
[04:53] <npster> wasabi_: I know, but in Gecko, there is this feature that it can view the source but permit it's viewing by the user.
[04:54] <SkyNeT> i have a pick a mount point
[04:54] <SkyNeT> do i pick /boot
[04:54] <someusernoob> skynet: first install windows XP on your first partition. create 3 partitions on your second partition: 1 for ubuntu: one for your /home dir and one for swap. If you install ubuntu, grub will be installed on the MBR, and it lets you choose beteen ubuntu and windows. Of you install windows after ubuntu, windows will overwrite Grub, so it doesntl et choose and boots automaticly into windows
[04:54] <SkyNeT> i did install windows xp
[04:54] <SkyNeT> done all ready
[04:54] <someusernoob> ok
[04:55] <m0biu5> does anyone know the difference between thunderbird and mozilla-thunderbird - i seem to have both installed O_o
[04:55] <SkyNeT> ok slow down someusernoob
[04:56] <someusernoob> now create a 5 gig partition for Ubuntu (for the / ), one partition of 14 gig for your /home, and 1 gig for swap, or if you need more for swap, you can take it from your /home partition, ok, i will slow down
[04:56] <wasabi_> npster: Just disable javascript and refresh teh page.
[04:56] <SkyNeT> the sec 20 GB is not formated
[04:56] <SkyNeT> at all
[04:56] <someusernoob> yes
[04:56] <cosmos`cu> I am using ubuntu, i just installed my nvidia drivers with synaptic.  How can i figure out why they didnt work?
[04:56] <someusernoob> there is a program called 'gnome partition manager' in your system menu somewhere
[04:57] <SkyNeT> you talking to me someusernoob
[04:57] <someusernoob> yes
[04:57] <someusernoob> i forgot to put your name before my message, sorry
[04:57] <adminx> Does anyone know of a LPI Certification Chat room?
[04:58] <[NP] Tangent> still no ideas on my monitor situation?
[04:58] <SkyNeT> ok i open gam
[04:58] <SkyNeT> what you said ok
[04:58] <SkyNeT> gparted
[04:58] <someusernoob> yes
[04:58] <someusernoob> skynet: thats the one
[04:59] <SkyNeT> ok will i was in the same thing on the install
[04:59] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, but it is easier to do it before you go and install imo
[04:59] <SkyNeT> pl
[04:59] <SkyNeT> ok
[04:59] <SkyNeT> walk me throw what i do
[04:59] <SkyNeT> with a 20GB unpartion and formated
[04:59] <someusernoob> skynet: when youre in gparted, you see your empty space right? 20 gig
[05:00] <SkyNeT> yes
[05:00] <someusernoob> skynet: it is after the 20gigs of windows
[05:00] <SkyNeT> say unallocated 20GB
[05:00] <SkyNeT> gray
[05:00] <someusernoob> skynet: right click on the 'gray' and select new
[05:00] <brk3> this is a stupid question, but how can I remove the harddrive icons from my gnome desktop?
[05:00] <SkyNeT> the big gray
[05:01] <someusernoob> skynet: yes
[05:01] <someusernoob> skynet: the 20 gig gray
[05:01] <SkyNeT> or the gray at the bottom
[05:01] <HeathenDan> not a stupid question, ppl ask that all the time
[05:01] <SkyNeT> ok the big gray
[05:01] <Skyrail> is there an easy(ish) way of getting my USB modem to work with Ubuntu?
[05:01] <someusernoob> skynet: select teh gray that comes after the windows partition
[05:01] <HeathenDan> i wish i could help, but im not using gnome atm
[05:01] <someusernoob> skynet: ok
[05:01] <SkyNeT> little box gray
[05:02] <someusernoob> skynet: now create an EXT3 partition of 5 gigs
[05:02] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:02] <brk3> HeathenDan: :) is there a way then?
[05:02] <SkyNeT> right lick new
[05:02] <brk3> HeathenDan: oh its ok then
[05:02] <habeeb> Greetings, I just changed to Kubuntu, and I feel like a stranger >: I dont know which howtos I should follow and which are KDEable :/ But well, I have amarok, buwhahaha
[05:02] <brk3> im sure someone else knows..
[05:02] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, new
[05:02] <HeathenDan> yes, it's actually quite simple... it's just tweaking the settings a bit
[05:02] <SkyNeT> ok it open
[05:02] <SkyNeT> a nother box
[05:02] <stevr1it> question: I have a laptop with ubuntu drapper and a partition (hda2) with windows xp fat32. Now this partition has lost some chains, ubuntu tries to read it but after a long time reads only some files, how can i recover some important files from this partition?
[05:03] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, now create a EXT3 partition > size ~ 5 gig, you dont need more if you dont install big things like 3d games
[05:03] <brk3> stevr1it: boot up windows and use an ext3 tool to read the data
[05:03] <HeathenDan> which partition?
[05:03] <SkyNeT> filesystem ext3
[05:03] <SkyNeT> creat as primary partition
[05:03] <someusernoob> skynet: yes
[05:03] <SkyNeT> free space preceding mb 0
[05:04] <stevr1it> brk3  how tobot up widows and use ext3 tools to read the data, coudl you be more preise?
[05:04] <SkyNeT> new six mb 18089
[05:04] <stevr1it> precise?
[05:04] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, before that partition you do not need space, after that new partition it should leave you with 15 gigs
[05:04] <SkyNeT> size
[05:04] <narnia> how do I share files over a network from my Ubuntu pc so that I can access them from my other Windows pc?
[05:04] <SkyNeT> free space following mb 0
[05:05] <ChronoAU> i dual boot xp + ubuntu, i need to reinstall xp, how can i get grub back after that?
[05:05] <brk3> stevr1it: if you boot up windows, theres a tool you can get to read/access linux partitions, which might enable you to recover the data you cannot access on ubunut
[05:05] <someusernoob> skynet: you need to slide the partition size backwards
[05:05] <SkyNeT> what do you mean
[05:05] <HeathenDan> !grub
[05:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:05] <brk3> narnia: something called samba, though I dont know how to set it up
[05:05] <nCi> someone can help me ?
[05:05] <someusernoob> skynet: so you get more unpartioned space on the right side of the new partition
[05:05] <SkyNeT> ok did that
[05:05] <stevr1it> really? i don't know where it is and how, do you kno it?
[05:05] <SkyNeT> how far back
[05:05] <erUSUL> !samba > narnia
[05:05] <nCi> i have linux ubuntu only for 2 days
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> nCi,  and the problem is?
[05:06] <SkyNeT> ok how far to the left do i go
[05:06] <stevr1it> but i cannot boot up windows
[05:06] <HeathenDan> you mean fs-driver.org
[05:06] <HeathenDan> or .com, can't remember
[05:06] <stevr1it> it is broken - chains lost says
[05:06] <someusernoob> skynet: untill new size says 5120
[05:06] <someusernoob> skynet: that is 5 gigs exactly
[05:06] <HeathenDan> which partition is broken stevr1it ?
[05:06] <nCi> how i can instal someting.. now i want instal Bitchx.. end i don;t how
[05:07] <erUSUL> !synaptic > nCi
[05:07] <stevr1it> hda2 fat 32 with windows xp
[05:07] <SkyNeT> new size 1519
[05:07] <stevr1it> chains losts
[05:07] <brk3> stevr1it: then im not sure, you could try a live distro either if, theres one called RIP(recovery is possible) which you might like to try, or just the live version of ubuntu
[05:07] <stevr1it> i cannot boot up windows
[05:07] <someusernoob> skynet: free space preceding should be 0, new size should be 5120MB, free space following should be ~15000MB
[05:07] <HeathenDan> well, sounds like you need a reinstall of xp
[05:07] <SkyNeT> wiat
[05:07] <stevr1it> i have tried a scandisk with ubuntu unsuccesfully
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> nCi,  the ubuntu user guides at the ubuntu homepage are worth reading.. you dident notice the 'add/remove programs' thing in the menus?
[05:08] <stevr1it> ri? i will look for it
[05:08] <HeathenDan> look for a BartPE windows "livecd"
[05:08] <brk3> HeathenDan: or get rid of XP completely ;)
[05:08] <nCi> i download .. i extract end i have Bitchx, scr-bx end wserv .. what imust to do
[05:08] <stevr1it> rip?
[05:08] <nCi> i have
[05:08] <nCi> whait.. i go try now
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> nCi,  you are using the latest Ubuntu release? "Dapper"  - you do NOT need todownload things seperately. thats windows thinking. :)
[05:08] <brk3> stevr1it: its a live distro, google and you will get where to download it
[05:08] <stevr1it> but how the live of ubuntu? I cna use this one which i am using but how?
[05:08] <SkyNeT> new size 5101
[05:08] <SkyNeT> is that good or no
[05:08] <stevr1it> ok
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> nCi,  explore the OS. and read the guides a bit. :P
[05:09] <stevr1it> thank you
[05:09] <someusernoob> skynet: yes thats good
[05:09] <SkyNeT> free space following mb 12988
[05:09] <someusernoob> skynet: that is about 5 gigs for your ubuntu installation, so the system files
[05:09] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, correct
[05:10] <brk3> is there anyone that knows how to remove the harddrive icons from the gnome desktop though?
[05:10] <SkyNeT> why so big for ext3
[05:10] <Ademan> how many "flights" did Dapper have?
[05:10] <Skyrail> is there an easy(ish) way of getting my USB modem to work with Ubuntu?
[05:11] <someusernoob> skynet: on this 5 gigs your goiong to install Ubuntu, which requires ~2,5 gigs, but you also want to install programs and stuff, so 5 gig is like the minimal size i would recommend
[05:11] <brk3> Skyrail: is it not working?
[05:11] <SkyNeT> ok will i want to run a server on ubuntu
[05:11] <SkyNeT> so i need room for it all
[05:12] <SkyNeT> so will i be ok with 5 GB
[05:12] <someusernoob> skynet: you will have, let me explain
[05:12] <brk3> SkyNeT: yes id say so
[05:12] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:12] <Skyrail> brk3 I have yet to try it but it requires a driver on windows...but should it just work? because its a USB modem I also need to put the info in (number to dial, password etc) and I wouldn't know where to put that
[05:13] <brk3> Skyrail: id just try it before asking, you'd never know it might just work!
[05:13] <HeathenDan> brk3, read my pm
[05:13] <someusernoob> skynet: after you partitioned this 5 gig, you got 12GB left, you need ~ 1 Gig for swap space, so it leaves you 11GB. When you got this 11GB left, you crerate your home partition on this. If you crash Ubuntu, you can just install it again, without losing your /home partition, which will contain all your personal data
[05:13] <brk3> HeathenDan: pm?
[05:14] <Skyrail> brk3 but where do I connect? its not an always on connection, it is broadband, just I have to connect everytime I want to go on
[05:14] <HeathenDan> private message
[05:14] <cool_nick> i am a linux newbie, i just created a new partition using System>Administration>Disks, but i am not able to write any data in the partition. Can someone help me out. . .
[05:14] <iliketoprogram> how do i tell X to let me use 'click right and left mouse buttons together' as 'click virtual middle mouse button'
[05:14] <brk3> HeathenDan: dont think i got one?
[05:14] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:14] <jenda> Is the AMD Turion any good?
[05:14] <HeathenDan> heh
[05:14] <HeathenDan> lemme try again
[05:14] <jenda> AMD Turion x2 TL50 1,6 GHz
[05:14] <SkyNeT> walk me throw it
[05:14] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: you need to create a file system on it and mount it
[05:14] <darius_> Are there Edgy upgrade instructions somewhere?
[05:14] <SkyNeT> i have 5 GB right now
[05:14] <brk3> Skyrail: id just google linux usb modems or ubuntu usb modems, theres bound to be some easy info out there
[05:15] <someusernoob> skynet: so in the end you got 16 gig of EXT3 space, and your data safe on the /home partition, where als o a lot of config files are saved
[05:15] <Skyrail> brk3 ok thansk :)
[05:15] <Ych> !wmv
[05:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:15] <someusernoob> skynet: click on add if you didnt allready. Now create again a new partition in that gray space
[05:15] <rod> do the latest nvidia drivers support xorg7.1 yet?
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> darius_: ask in @ubuntu+1
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> woops
[05:15] <HeathenDan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237657 <-- has what you're looking for
[05:16] <HeathenDan> brk3
[05:16] <someusernoob> skynet: select "swap" and make it double the size of your real memory, up to 2GB
[05:16] <brk3> HeathenDan: thanks alot!
[05:16] <SkyNeT> ok back to new
[05:16] <cool_nick> ChaosFan: i've done that too, how do i change my user permissions from root to user?
[05:16] <SkyNeT> in gray
[05:16] <SkyNeT> have 12 GB
[05:16] <HeathenDan> np
[05:16] <SkyNeT> show in new size
[05:16] <mrichman> Whats a good alternative to MS Office? Openoffice.org doesnt really do it for me.
[05:16] <HeathenDan> gnome-office, koffice
[05:16] <HeathenDan> star-office :p
[05:16] <brk3> HeathenDan: sorry im on windows at the moment, irc client is crap compared to xchat
[05:16] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: just mount it somewhere users can write
[05:17] <Dr[a] gonBlood> i downloaded ubuntu but i have winrar so its acting like a .rar file ... what do i do ?
[05:17] <HeathenDan> really? i kinda missed mirc
[05:17] <someusernoob> skynet: new size should be 1024MB up to 2048MB, depends on your ram size, make it double the size of your ram. So if you got 512MB ram, you make the swap 1024 and so on
[05:17] <klm-> what's the biggest dc/amule hub?
[05:17] <HeathenDan> much easier to do scripts there
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> oops mIRC :P
[05:17] <Jeruvy> brk3: blech...mirc is the way to go.
[05:17] <brk3> HeathenDan: well incidently mirc works perfectly with wine
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr[a] gonBlood: Isnt it an ISO?
[05:17] <mrichman> I have 4GB ram...do i really need 8GB swap?
[05:17] <cool_nick> ChaosFan: should i have to mount it everytime i reboot?
[05:17] <Dr[a] gonBlood> nope....
[05:17] <Dr[a] gonBlood> and i got it from the offical site.
[05:17] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: no
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr[a] gonBlood: Whaere are you downloading Ubuntu from?
[05:18] <someusernoob> skynet: preceding should be 0 again, and space following should be something like 10.000 or 11000MB
[05:18] <SkyNeT> ok am lost now
[05:18] <SkyNeT> lolz
[05:18] <HeathenDan> Dr[a] gonBlood, that's an iso file. don't let winrar open it. rather, burn it to a cd/dvd using your favorite cd/dvd writer
[05:18] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: just write it into /etc/fstab
[05:18] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, its a mess here in this channel lol
[05:18] <cool_nick> ChaosFan: thanks
[05:18] <Dr[a] gonBlood> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[05:18] <SkyNeT> 12988
[05:18] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: there are some lines there you can easily adopt
[05:18] <abhi_> mrichman: you do not need any swap.
[05:18] <HaaL-> Can you give me help on this error please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22332
[05:19] <cool_nick> ChaosFan: i'll have to specify the filesystem. . .
[05:19] <someusernoob> skynet: 12988 is what you got left after the 5 gig partition right?
[05:19] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: which one did you create? ;)
[05:19] <SkyNeT> yeah can't keep up
[05:19] <SkyNeT> on live cd
[05:19] <HeathenDan> really... mirc+wine... nah, i already invested a fair bit of time learning xchat... i even have a temp-kb and a auto-kb script in it
[05:19] <SkyNeT> yes
[05:19] <SkyNeT> that right
[05:19] <cool_nick> ChaosFan: resierfs
[05:19] <SkyNeT> got 12988 left after the frist
[05:19] <SkyNeT> partition we made
[05:20] <mrichman> how much swap do i need with 4GB?
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> HaaL-: what are you trying to make?
[05:20] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, in that free space, create a new 'swap' partition
[05:20] <SkyNeT> that was a primary partition we made 5G
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> 2 gig
[05:20] <ChaosFan> mrichman: you have 4Gig of RAM?
[05:20] <Dr[a] gonBlood> HeathenDan i would agree with you that its an iso but if i right click... it says .rar and also is extractable
[05:20] <mrichman> yes
[05:20] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: then write that one
[05:20] <HaaL-> trying to compile 3COM drivers for my wifi USB dongle Jack_Sparrow
[05:20] <HeathenDan> well, there are only two types of files available for downloading ubuntu: .iso and .torrent... if winrar opened it, it's definitely the iso file
[05:20] <ChaosFan> mrichman: i have 1.5GB and my swap file is nerver used
[05:20] <ubuntu_> hello
[05:20] <SkyNeT> is it call linux swap
[05:20] <mrichman> HP xw9300 - 4GB, 1TB SATA2 RAID 10
[05:21] <someusernoob> skynet: yes
[05:21] <ubuntu_> I've a few problems, if anyone's willing
[05:21] <SkyNeT> in flilesystem
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> HaaL-: What instructions are you trying to follow?
[05:21] <cool_nick> ChaosFan: ok! why is notail option used?
[05:21] <someusernoob> skynet: the size should be double the ram you have in your computer. Yes, filesystme = linux-swap
[05:21] <Dr[a] gonBlood> ok, then how do i burn it as an iso to a disk... i know how to burn files...but i dont know how to set it up so it knows it a boot disk
[05:21] <HaaL-> http://kerneltrap.org/node/5470 Jack_Sparrow
[05:21] <SkyNeT> 512 memory
[05:21] <SkyNeT> is what i have in my computer
[05:22] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, make the new size 1024MB
[05:22] <HeathenDan> maybe your windows has winrar as default prog for isos... which is uncommon but it happens
[05:22] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: from man mount: notail By default, reiserfs stores small files and `file tails' directly into its tree. This confuses some utilities such as LILO(8).  This option is used to disable packing of files into the tree.
[05:22] <mrichman> Should i bother putting Ubuntu on my 1GHz Athlon w/ 1GB RAM? will it be really slow?
[05:22] <someusernoob> skynet: preceding should be 0, and follwing should be something like 110000MB then
[05:22] <Dr[a] gonBlood> ok, then how do i burn it as an iso to a disk... i know how to burn files...but i dont know how to set it up so it knows it a boot disk
[05:22] <HeathenDan> you don't really need to set it as boot disk... a normal burn would do the trick... as long as you burn it as an iso and not as data
[05:22] <SkyNeT> is 1039 work
[05:22] <someusernoob> skynet: oops, i meant 11000MB
[05:22] <crossower> OK so how come Gaim doesn't connect to anything at all?
[05:22] <Dr[a] gonBlood> Ok HeathenDan
[05:22] <Dr[a] gonBlood> ty.
[05:23] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, 1039 is fine
[05:23] <vincenz> Why is totem-gstreamer unable to handle any formats?
[05:23] <ChaosFan> mrichman: i don't think so that this would be extremely slow
[05:23] <crossower> I'm using Ubuntu 5.10 btw
[05:23] <SkyNeT> and free space following 11949
[05:23] <someusernoob> skynet: yep, thats correct
[05:23] <cool_nick> ChaosFan: can you suggest me some good books to learn linux, i like to go the command line way. . .
[05:23] <SkyNeT> is this one called primary partition
[05:23] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: just google for the debian user handbook
[05:23] <SkyNeT> as well
[05:23] <someusernoob> skynet: yes
[05:24] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:24] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: it's available for free online
[05:24] <SkyNeT> hot add
[05:24] <crossower> hello?
[05:24] <ChaosFan> cool_nick: and one of the best i know
[05:24] <SkyNeT> add or what ?
[05:24] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, add it
[05:24] <vincenz> I'm constantly usign the old totem version, cause at least xine can handle some formats
[05:24] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:24] <crashd> is there anyway to make xgamma save it's settings?
[05:24] <SkyNeT> new a gane ?
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr[a] gonBlood: isorecorder is free iso burning tool for xp
[05:24] <HeathenDan> vincenz, maybe your totem-gstreamer doesn't have the proper codecs
[05:24] <someusernoob> skynet: it should leave you with 5 gig of EXT3, and 1 gig of linux-swap, and 11 gig free space, in gray
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr[a] gonBlood: right click and burn
[05:25] <glassbits> i lost my ubuntu password, but i can access the ubuntu filesystem from windows using an ext3 driver how can i find out my password in ubuntu >
[05:25] <vincenz> HeathenDan: heh... I install zillions of codecs to no avail, I'm always dissapointed by gstreamer
[05:25] <paladinhugo> hello all!
[05:25] <veleno> sorry if OT: anyone here with a logitech mx518 optical mouse? i cannot get it working if plugged to a 4-port powered usb hub
[05:25] <SkyNeT> ext is 4.98
[05:25] <HeathenDan> true, i use totem-xine myself
[05:25] <paladinhugo> I've a problem with grub
[05:25] <HeathenDan> but lots of ppl vouch for gstreamer
[05:25] <SkyNeT> linux swap 1.01
[05:25] <Sanne> crashd: I saved xgamma once in my x config file when I used Debian - should I go hunt for it?
[05:25] <paladinhugo> I've formatted the entirely hard drive and I'm trying to install windows
[05:25] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, thats is correct
[05:26] <HaaL-> Jack_Sparrow: Any ideas?
[05:26] <crashd> Sanne: that could be helpful
[05:26] <paladinhugo> but in the middle of the instalation I need to reboot, and grub loads with an error
[05:26] <Sanne> crashd: ok, one moment
[05:26] <Uriku> easyUbuntu doesn't work for me ._.
[05:26] <crashd> i can use xgamma easily enough, could throw it into a startup, but id rather ubuntu just save it for me :>
[05:26] <paladinhugo> I can't complete the installation
[05:26] <paladinhugo> can anyone help me uninstalling grub?
[05:26] <SkyNeT> unallocated 11.67
[05:26] <HaaL-> Jack_Sparrow: I can show you my modified Makefile
[05:26] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, also correct
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> HaaL-: Did you modify the makefile per the instructions?
[05:26] <HaaL-> sure :)
[05:27] <glassbits> i lost my ubuntu password, but i can access the ubuntu filesystem from windows using an ext3 driver how can i find out my password in ubuntu ?
[05:27] <HeathenDan> a fresh install of windows wouldve cleared the mbr of grub
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> HaaL-: Others here are better at that stuff
[05:27] <SkyNeT> what do we do with the other 11.67 that we did nothing with
[05:27] <ChaosFan> glassbits: you cannot
[05:27] <narnia> what does this mean: Be sure to replace the token DOMAIN_NAME in the example above with the actual name of your specific Windows Domain.
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !password
[05:27] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[05:27] <glassbits> ChaosFan, then is there another way ?
[05:27] <someusernoob> skynet: now rightclick on that unallocated space, and make a partition of all the space. it should be extended and EXT3 as well
[05:27] <mrichman> Whats a good alternative to MS Office? Openoffice.org doesnt really do it for me.
[05:28] <HaaL-> thanks you Jack_Sparrow
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:28] <ChaosFan> glassbits: either you follow this bot-guide there or you boot a live cd, mount your root partition, chroot there and execute passwd
[05:28] <crossower> HELLO?
[05:28] <HeathenDan> didn't i already answered that? gnome-office or koffice
[05:28] <DJAdmiral> !shout
[05:28] <SkyNeT> so it need to be a fliesystem ext3
[05:28] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:28] <someusernoob> skynet: yes
[05:28] <glassbits> ChaosFan, i can read the passwd file in /erc
[05:28] <crossower> really?
[05:28] <glassbits> ChaosFan, /etc
[05:28] <SkyNeT> free space following 0
[05:28] <someusernoob> skynet: yes
[05:28] <crossower> i asked 2 questions already, no answer
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> paladinhugo: If you formatted the whole drive you dont have grub.. you can boot a windows cd to a prompt and fdisk /mbr and get rid of grub
[05:29] <ChaosFan> glassbits: but it's encrypted ;)
[05:29] <SkyNeT> primary partiton
[05:29] <HeathenDan> !patience
[05:29] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:29] <Sanne> crashd: the monitor section, note the gamma line: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22333
[05:29] <glassbits> ChaosFan, can i crack it
[05:29] <someusernoob> skynet: no, extended if it is possible
[05:29] <ChaosFan> glassbits: hopefully not
[05:29] <DJAdmiral> glassbits: I can crack it if it's not shadowed
[05:29] <crashd> danke Sanne
[05:29] <SkyNeT> extened partition ok
[05:29] <Uriku> can anyone help me run easyUbuntu? it says something like "reinstall the broken packages" and also shows more specific text
[05:29] <crashd> you're a star :)
[05:29] <SkyNeT> but loset the ext3
[05:29] <glassbits> DJAdmiral, how do i know if its not shadowed
[05:29] <Sanne> crashd: bitteschn :)
[05:29] <DJAdmiral> glassbits: do you see a line like root:x:someblahblah?
[05:30] <narnia> Uriku: I think that means that you have to reinstall easyUbuntu
[05:30] <glassbits> DJAdmiral, ya
[05:30] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, first create extended, and click on add
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Uriku: there is a reason we do not suggest using #automatix or #easyubuntu..
[05:30] <DJAdmiral> glassbits: or do you see a line like root:blahblah:blahblah
[05:30] <Sanne> crashd: actually, there's a gamma section in kubuntu's control center, did you see it?
[05:30] <crossower> well
[05:30] <crossower> can I just say
[05:30] <crashd> Sanne: im using stock ubuntu
[05:30] <SkyNeT> how bit for extended
[05:30] <SkyNeT> all of it
[05:30] <someusernoob> skynet: all of it
[05:30] <glassbits> DJAdmiral, here it is  -> glassbits:x:1000:1000:Glass Bits,,,:/home/glassbits:/bin/bas
[05:30] <SkyNeT> there not ext3
[05:30] <Sanne> crashd: oh, wrong channel, sorry... I though this is #kubuntu lol
[05:30] <Uriku> that was a suggestion Jack?
[05:30] <crossower> you have really shown what a wonderful community you are
[05:30] <SkyNeT> that you wanted
[05:31] <DJAdmiral> glassbits: then you have a problem
[05:31] <DJAdmiral> glassbits: it's shadowed
[05:31] <crashd> Sanne: :) no probs, seems to have done the trick either way
[05:31] <SkyNeT> that ok
[05:31] <Ych> anyone know why i can't view wmv's with VLC?
[05:31] <someusernoob> skynet: no, first yo uhave to create the extended partition, and within this partition youre going to create a new partition
[05:31] <crossower> I have waited long enough, I think
[05:31] <DJAdmiral> glassbits: in this case you have to boot into recovery mode
[05:31] <Sanne> crashd: fine, than that's settled ;)
[05:31] <HeathenDan> i don't think vlc supports wmv, i could be wrong
[05:31] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:31] <glassbits> DJAdmiral, and then ?
[05:31] <Ych> it does on windows....
[05:31] <Ych> i used to use vlc for everything
[05:31] <SkyNeT> holy shit never had so may partition
[05:31] <SkyNeT> in my life
[05:31] <crashd> just need to figure our where the hell to configure the top 'bar' now
[05:31] <someusernoob> lol
[05:31] <crossower> volunteers or not, nobody seems to give a cr*p about my questions
[05:31] <Ych> i thought vlc supported everything
[05:31] <DJAdmiral> glassbits: in which you shall gain only text based access to root, and a way to see your /etc/passwd unshadowed
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> glassbits: Sounds more like you are trying to get someone elses pasword than to reset it to a new one
[05:32] <glassbits> no
[05:32] <DJAdmiral> !language > SkyNeT
[05:32] <enquest> When there is a cd in my drive it keeps spinning in Ubunut? How come?
[05:32] <SkyNeT> ok what next
[05:32] <glassbits> actually i am loggin in to ubuntu after a month
[05:32] <someusernoob> skynet: you now have ~12 gig of extended partition, it is shown in gray right?
[05:32] <HeathenDan> how do i set ignore in xchat?
[05:33] <HeathenDan> is it like in mirc?
[05:33] <DJAdmiral> HeathenDan: er, /ignore maybe? lol
[05:33] <glassbits> DJAdmiral, so if i do nano /etc/passwd i can view that password ?
[05:33] <ChaosFan> HeathenDan: /ignore [nickname|mask] 
[05:33] <SkyNeT> extended 11.67
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> HeathenDan,  now ya know why i went back to the old 2.4 xchat.
[05:33] <crossower> OK, bye, thanks for nothing, and you can be sure I ain't coming back
[05:33] <DJAdmiral> glassbits: in your current situation? I don't think so
[05:33] <HeathenDan> i havent used ignore in xchat before
[05:33] <compengi> crossower, what you have?
[05:33] <Sanne> crashd: top bar? Do you mean the gnome panel?
[05:33] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, right click on it, and click new
[05:33] <DJAdmiral> crossower: we're all a bit too busy. Don't take it personally
[05:33] <glassbits> DJAdmiral, can i change my current password from recovery mode ?
[05:34] <crossower> Too late, I'm gonna go look for a more competent source of information
[05:34] <DJAdmiral> glassbits: think so
[05:34] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:34] <DJAdmiral> crossower: your funeral, buddy
[05:34] <crossower> w/e
[05:34] <SkyNeT> back to that creat new partition window
[05:34] <glassbits> DJAdmiral, thanks i will try that and get back
[05:34] <SkyNeT> 11949
[05:34] <compengi> crossower your choice
[05:34] <someusernoob> skynet: create a new EXT3 partition from all the space you have left now
[05:34] <kevinG> gnome vs. kde
[05:35] <DJAdmiral> crossower is an impatient moron
[05:35] <compengi> DJAdmiral lol
[05:35] <ChaosFan> seems so
[05:35] <DJAdmiral> kevinG: GNOME all the way!
[05:35] <SkyNeT> logical partition ?
[05:35] <paladinhugo> thx Jack_Sparrow.. I'll try that!
[05:35] <HeathenDan> Usage: IGNORE <mask> <types..> <options..>
[05:35] <HeathenDan> darn, it only ignores masks
[05:35] <DJAdmiral> ChaosFan, compengi: lol
[05:35] <compengi> DJAdmiral i just woke up and saw him angry lol
[05:35] <someusernoob> skynet: after that you should have: ~ 5 gig of EXT3, ~ 1 gig of linux swap, An extended partition > and ~12 gig of EXT3 again
[05:35] <kevinG> DJAdmiral: I agree...even though I haven't used KDE, it looks like a very clumsy interface
[05:35] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, logical
[05:35] <phiber_optic> what is automatix? is it good to have it installed? or is it better the command way?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  best to learn to do the isntalls manually
[05:36] <DJAdmiral> !automatix
[05:36] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:36] <SkyNeT> ext3 4.98
[05:36] <phiber_optic> Dr_Willis sure... I fixed my sound problem
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> phiber_optic: #Automatix is not advised
[05:36] <HeathenDan> i'd use automatix only for the nautilus scripts :p
[05:36] <DJAdmiral> phiber_optic: but I wouldn't recommend Automatix. Rather easyubuntu or manual
[05:36] <kevinG> phiber_optic: I used Easyubuntu and it was the only way I got my nvidia drivers set up properly
[05:36] <SkyNeT> linux-swap 1.01
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  about time! :P
[05:36] <Sanne> phiber_optic: I think you'll be better off learning to install those software yourself. There are fine guides on the ubuntu wiki or in the forums.
[05:36] <SkyNeT> extended 11.67
[05:36] <StoneNote> phiber_optic, if things go wrong it will totally hose your sysytem.  I had to reinstall ubuntu from scratch once after running it.
[05:36] <phiber_optic> Dr_Willis it was a mobo prob
[05:36] <SkyNeT> ext3 11.76
[05:36] <SkyNeT> 67
[05:36] <phiber_optic> Thanx guyus
[05:37] <SkyNeT> i mean
[05:37] <someusernoob> skynet: correct, thats great! now you can click on 'apply'
[05:37] <Wipster> hey all is there a decent audio player for linux, one with a real libary unline XMMS's all in one playlist approach, somewhat sad to say this but like windows media players libary interface
[05:37] <DJAdmiral> StoneNote: It's best to know exactly how you're touching your system then :P
[05:37] <compengi> phiber_optic it automatix plays with the source file alot
[05:37] <kevinG> If anything I'd say to use Easyubuntu at least for the graphics card drivers...I tried quite a few times by hand and it was always a mess
[05:37] <DJAdmiral> brb
[05:37] <someusernoob> skynet: so it writes the partition lay-out to your disk
[05:37] <HeathenDan> amarok
[05:37] <SkyNeT> say are you sure you want to apply operations
[05:37] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:37] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, possitive
[05:38] <SkyNeT> ok now it apply pending operations
[05:38] <Red-Sox> hi
[05:38] <phiber_optic> ok guys thanxx
[05:38] <SkyNeT> o no
[05:38] <Red-Sox> X does not work with my system
[05:38] <Red-Sox> ATI cad, that is
[05:38] <ubuntux> help!!! im not able to install Ubuntu dapper in ANY way:(  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249294
[05:38] <someusernoob> skynet; after it is done, you have: 20 gig for windows, 4.98 EXT3, 1.01 swap, and 11.76 EXT3
[05:38] <SkyNeT> error while creating new partition #4
[05:38] <vonluger> hi to all
[05:38] <ubuntux> help me!!! im not able to install Ubuntu dapper in ANY way:(  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249294
[05:38] <Red-Sox> But that's on breezy, do if I try Dapper do you think it'll work????
[05:38] <Red-Sox> ubuntux: just once
[05:39] <someusernoob> skynet: does it say anything else?
[05:39] <SkyNeT> someusernoob  error
[05:39] <SkyNeT> hold on all look
[05:39] <HeathenDan> pls don't repeat
[05:39] <DJAdmiral> Ubuntux: hang on, I'm looking at your thread
[05:39] <kevinG> I don't recommend X...it caused me nothing but problems
[05:39] <vonluger> where i can find my installed packages in .deb format ?
[05:39] <xavier> Hi, I have a bug with xorg on 6.06LTS using a radeon mobility M6 (the server crashes, the mouse move but doesn't click, Xorg takes 100% system CPU)
[05:39] <jdmpike> when you install the ruby package, where does the interpreter get installed?
[05:39] <ubuntux> DJAdmiral: ok im waiting patiently!
[05:39] <DJAdmiral> ubuntux: and please do not repeat yourself
[05:39] <DJAdmiral> !repeat
[05:39] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:39] <ubuntux> DJAdmiral: okie...but im dying to install dapper
[05:39] <xavier> I can connect by ssh but can't kill -9 xorg
[05:40] <HeathenDan> patience is a virtue
[05:40] <DJAdmiral> Red-Sox: Try Dapper
[05:40] <SkyNeT> it the logical partition
[05:40] <SkyNeT> that mest up
[05:40] <Red-Sox> DJAdmiral: you think it'll work?
[05:40] <SkyNeT> say
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Downloaded Ubuntu packages are kept in   /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:40] <HeathenDan> you should've included hardware info
[05:40] <vonluger> where i can find my installed packages in .deb format ?
[05:40] <vonluger> thanx
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:41] <SkyNeT> error while creating new partiton #4 be aware that the failure to apply this operation could affect other operations on the list
[05:41] <StoneNote> DJAdmiral, yeah, which is why I used ark and took a look at automatix's shell script.  seperately the script is fine. if you load more than one item at a time you are playing riussian roulette because many of them attempt to load the same packages
[05:41] <someusernoob> skynet; that is really weird, shouldnt happen, let me think
[05:41] <SkyNeT> :( don;t no new to this good with xp not good with linux no nothing lolz me
[05:42] <SkyNeT> can we back track and try fix it
[05:42] <SkyNeT> add partiton 4 a gane
[05:42] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, try to delete the extended partition, including the logical partition
[05:42] <ubuntux> anyone..plz help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249294
[05:42] <someusernoob> skynet: so you have the 4.98 ext and the 1.01 swap, and 11gig of unallocated space
[05:43] <HeathenDan> ubuntux, that's too sparse. give us more info, like your hardware and such
[05:43] <SkyNeT> o crap
[05:43] <Wipster> hey all is there a decent audio player for linux, one with a real libary unline XMMS's all in one playlist approach, somewhat sad to say this but like windows media players libary interface?
[05:43] <SkyNeT> kick me out
[05:43] <SkyNeT> of it
[05:43] <Red-Sox> ubuntux: besides, don't post twice
[05:44] <Red-Sox> Wipster: amaroK
[05:44] <someusernoob> skynet: did gparted crash?
[05:44] <HeathenDan> Wipster, maybe rythmbox or amarok
[05:44] <SkyNeT> yep
[05:44] <DJAdmiral> back
[05:44] <someusernoob> skynet: start it again, and tell me what is shows you, if it made the partitions or not
[05:45] <SkyNeT> ok back open
[05:45] <HeathenDan> i havent used xmms in awhile, but doesn't it have a library feature like winamp's?
[05:45] <SkyNeT> we have
[05:45] <Wipster> Red-Sox, HeathenDan: thankyou just the think I'm looking for
[05:45] <SkyNeT> ext3 4.98
[05:45] <StoneNote> ubuntux, why don't you load kubuntu or xbuntu and then load gnome?
[05:45] <SkyNeT> linux-swap 1.02
[05:46] <SkyNeT> extended 11.67
[05:46] <DJAdmiral> StoneNote: he doesn't want to do that
[05:46] <HeathenDan> eep! it's almost 12 AM, and it's my wife bday tomorrow
[05:46] <SkyNeT> unallocated 11.67
[05:46] <ubuntux> StoneNote: thats too much of a hassle....n i'll have to remove kde/xfce crap later on
[05:46] <ChaosFan> HeathenDan: then hurry get a present ;)
[05:46] <HeathenDan> at 11:46 pm? lol
[05:46] <ubuntux> Hardware info: Intel Celeron, 256MB RAM, Samtron 45Bn monitor...anythin else???
[05:46] <ubuntux> Edit/Delete Message
[05:47] <HeathenDan> i don't think i even have a greeting card
[05:47] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, try to make a new EXT3 partition again in this unallocated space, like you did 15 minutes ago
[05:47] <phiber_optic> what is the best software to download stuff
[05:47] <HeathenDan> i'll just treat her to a nice lunch XD
[05:47] <DJAdmiral> ubuntux: not going to be much of a hassle - all you have to do is install Kubuntu, and just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <ChaosFan> HeathenDan: hm, ok, sorry, here where I live it's 5:47 pm ;)
[05:47] <VincentMX> hi
[05:47] <DJAdmiral> ubuntu: and you are DONE. Nothing else to do
[05:47] <ChaosFan> HeathenDan: that's a brilliant option ;)
[05:47] <VincentMX> i've installed the kubuntu LAMP server
[05:47] <ubuntux> DJAdmiral: i know.....but then removing kde/xfce is a pain:(
[05:47] <VincentMX> but it just keeps rebooting
[05:47] <someusernoob> skynet: if that doesnt work, delete the extended partition, and just create a logical partition again. So the same as your going to do now, but without the extended part
[05:47] <HeathenDan> phiber_optic, what stuff do you need to download? depending on your answer, it could be gwget, downloader for x, azureus, gtk-gnutella, gftp or even xchat
[05:47] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:47] <VincentMX> it loads the kernel and reboots
[05:47] <DJAdmiral> ubuntux: kde will be removed if you install ubuntu-desktop
[05:48] <SkyNeT> ext3 11.67
[05:48] <someusernoob> skynet: yes
[05:48] <ubuntux> DJAdmiral: really???
[05:48] <phiber_optic> like gtk-gnutella
[05:48] <SkyNeT> appy
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> HeathenDan: it could also be torrent files lol
[05:48] <someusernoob> skynet: yes
[05:48] <HeathenDan> that's why i listed azureus :p
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> ubuntux: Well, ubuntu-desktop wouldn't be very useful if it didn't do that
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> HeathenDan: didn't see that lol
[05:48] <HeathenDan> gtk-gnutella is pretty good... definitely better than frostwire
[05:49] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:49] <DJAdmiral> HeathenDan: I haven't tried azureus, is it better than bittornado?
[05:49] <sioux> Hi people I have a simple question, sometime I install package with synaptic that require dependency but when I wont remove all how can I remove package + dependency?
[05:49] <Lobster> gnutella isn't good anyway...
[05:49] <MrMikey> How good is ubuntu at mounting usb devices? Does it do it automatically?
[05:49] <jdmpike> anyone running ruby on ubuntu?
[05:49] <SkyNeT> ext3 11.67  used 315.87mb
[05:49] <DJAdmiral> sioux: right click package + remove all completely
[05:49] <HeathenDan> depends, bittornado is best if you don't need multitorrent interface
[05:50] <kingpanga>  pls help ! how to configure a mail server
[05:50] <SkyNeT> ext 4.98gb  used 208.33mb
[05:50] <HeathenDan> azureus, like most java, is kinda bloated and sluggish
[05:50] <SkyNeT> ext3 that last one was
[05:50] <sioux> Dj sure it works?
[05:50] <DJAdmiral> sioux: however it won't remove some dependencies if they are being used by other programs
[05:50] <DJAdmiral> MrMikey: very automatically
[05:50] <someusernoob> skynet; yes, while your using your live cd it needs some diskspace to write temporary data to
[05:50] <DJAdmiral> sioux: positive. ish.
[05:50] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:50] <sioux> I will try :-) Thank you
[05:50] <HeathenDan> if you're just downloading a file or two, bittornado is better than azureus
[05:50] <DJAdmiral> sioux: no problem
[05:50] <MrMikey> DJAdmiral, Does it matter that I removed ehci_hcd? It should still work, right?
[05:51] <SkyNeT> what about linux-swap
[05:51] <DJAdmiral> HeathenDan: Thanks
[05:51] <SkyNeT> did it make them
[05:51] <someusernoob> skynet: now you got: 20 gig for windows, EXT3 4.98, swap 1.01 and EXT3 11.67
[05:51] <DJAdmiral> MrMikey: not sure. Give it a try on a USB stick
[05:51] <MrMikey> Oka :)
[05:51] <SkyNeT> and the extended used o
[05:51] <DJAdmiral> MrMikey: you should see the new icon on the desktop
[05:51] <SkyNeT> linux -swap used 0
[05:51] <sioux> other ceck do you know if usb telephone works with skype under ubuntu?
[05:52] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, thats ok, as long it show you this:
[05:52] <DJAdmiral> HeathenDan: are you sure utorrent is good with WINE? especially since you're downloading something?
[05:52] <someusernoob> skynet: now you got: 20 gig for windows, EXT3 4.98, swap 1.01 and EXT3 11.67
[05:52] <someusernoob> skynet: it doesnt matter what it uses now
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Ive used utorrent.exe and wine, no hassles so far.
[05:52] <someusernoob> skynet: only the sizes matter
[05:52] <SkyNeT> my windows xp
[05:52] <SkyNeT> why would i want to touch my windows xp drive
[05:52] <DJAdmiral> Dr_Willis: oh well, okay. Are the uTorrent people planning to create uTorrent for linux?
[05:52] <cosmos`cu> erUSUL: |nvidia > cosmos`cu   (I dont understand what this means)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  i doubt it.
[05:53] <HeathenDan> DJAdmiral, according to my utorrent stats, in 303 hours of usage, i've dled 58 GB
[05:53] <someusernoob> skynetL i never told you to touch it.... ?
[05:53] <HeathenDan> no problems for me
[05:53] <SkyNeT> ok i did ant
[05:53] <MrMikey> Odd. The usb stick wont mount, it did previously. Methinks it doesn't like me using 2.6.12 =(
[05:53] <DJAdmiral> HeathenDan, Dr_Willis: why so?
[05:53] <SkyNeT> lolz
[05:53] <SkyNeT> 5 partition
[05:53] <SkyNeT> i have
[05:53] <DJAdmiral> MrMikey: then I have no idea why it didn't mount. It should!
[05:53] <Uriku> err.. I accidently stopped a "job" (ctrl+z while in terminal), and I sadly can't remember the command to return to it, what is it?
[05:53] <SkyNeT> what is next ?
[05:53] <HeathenDan> utorrent.exe is definitely a windows-only proj
[05:53] <DJAdmiral> MrMikey: wait, what filesystem is the usb stick?
[05:53] <someusernoob> skynet: you clicked apply?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  why should they. :P  go to the utorrent site and ask them. They may come out with one tomorrow for all i know.. but i wouldent hold my breath. :)
[05:54] <DJAdmiral> Uriku: fg i think
[05:54] <someusernoob> skynet: if so, close gparted, and click the 'install' icon on the desktop
[05:54] <Uriku> yea! thanks
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> torrent clients are getting to be a dime a dozen. :)
[05:54] <DJAdmiral> Uriku: anytime
[05:54] <SkyNeT> yes
[05:54] <HeathenDan> i've checked their forums before, utorrent has no immediate plans for linux
[05:54] <DJAdmiral> Dr_Willis: true lol
[05:54] <SkyNeT> i hit appy
[05:54] <SkyNeT> it work
[05:54] <SkyNeT> the sec time
[05:54] <MrMikey> FAT32 I think
[05:54] <tizwonder> Uriku: press the up arrrow in command line lol
[05:54] <DJAdmiral> MrMikey: anything pop up in /dev/ at least?
[05:54] <MrMikey> I also tried my GP2X, but I've never seen that work
[05:54] <Uriku> lol what?
[05:55] <DJAdmiral> tizwonder: no he needs to return to the app, not restart it
[05:55] <someusernoob> skynet: click the 'install' icon on the desktop
[05:55] <MrMikey> DJAdmiral, I wouldn't know where to look =( dmesg doesn't say anything about a device in dev
[05:55] <tizwonder> DJAdmiral: ah...
[05:55] <tizwonder> fg
[05:55] <tizwonder> :)
[05:55] <SkyNeT> but someusernoob
[05:55] <someusernoob> skynet: yes
[05:55] <DJAdmiral> tizwonder: pading! lol
[05:55] <SkyNeT> ok there 20 by it self
[05:55] <tizwonder> Lols
[05:55] <SkyNeT> then there 4.98 bye it self
[05:56] <SkyNeT> then there linux -swap by it self
[05:56] <SkyNeT> and extended and ext inside each other
[05:56] <SkyNeT> is that right ?
[05:56] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, thats is exactly what you want
[05:56] <phiber_optic> which is better vlc or mplayer?
[05:56] <tizwonder> Yes Skynet
[05:56] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:56] <tizwonder> phiber_optic: i like mplayer :)
[05:57] <someusernoob> skynet: you can slose the partition editor now
[05:57] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:57] <someusernoob> skynet: close *
[05:57] <ChaosFan> phiber_optic: depends. for viewing streams, i prefer vlc
[05:57] <TEN> Trying to make lm-sensors work on a Fujitsu-Siemens D1386 mainboard (modprobe smsc47m1 ? ) under Xubuntu LTS 6.06.1 - this fails with "No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them", with the bug in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lm-sensors/+bug/45482 to blame, I presume:
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: DO you really use skynet? I looked into that... pm me when you get a chance..
[05:57] <phiber_optic> ok
[05:57] <SkyNeT> ok now go back to install
[05:57] <DJAdmiral> phiber_optic: a matter of preference, but I'd go with mplayer any day
[05:57] <SkyNeT> ?
[05:57] <phiber_optic> thanx
[05:57] <someusernoob> skynet: yes, open the installer, and walkthrough the steps untill it asks you something about partitions
[05:58] <[NP] Tangent> ugh, still can't get this to work
[05:58] <[NP] Tangent> I kind of need my GUI
[05:58] <MrMikey> DJAdmiral, here is my dmesg | tail output if that shines any light on it =( http://pastebin.com/782067
[05:58] <DJAdmiral> [NP] Tangent: what exactly is your problem?
[05:58] <SkyNeT> manually edit partition table
[05:59] <someusernoob> skynet: yes
[05:59] <SkyNeT> ok
[05:59] <SkyNeT> am in perpare partitions
[05:59] <crashd> hmm, has anyone had any trouble with mouse sensitivity problems in ubuntu with a usb mouse?
[05:59] <crashd> ie: it not making a difference what you set the mouse sens. too ?
[05:59] <tizwonder> crashd: yes, i cannot change the sens on my logitech usb mouse...
[05:59] <tizwonder> not sure why.
[05:59] <SkyNeT> i see the 11.67
[05:59] <SkyNeT> up there
[06:00] <SkyNeT> but not the other one the other on say down at the bottom
[06:00] <DJAdmiral> MrMikey: no idea.
[06:00] <crashd> tizwonder: strange
[06:00] <MrMaDSeN> hi
[06:00] <MrMikey> Okay. Thanks anyway :)
[06:00] <crashd> tizwonder: that's the problem im having too, but with a standard 2button+wheel microsoft mouse
[06:00] <Ademan> hey when my friend tries to play mp3's he says the sound is all messed up.  I'm pretty sure he installed all the correct gstreamer plugins, (i gave him automatix) but i'm unable to talk to him right now, so does anyone off the top of their head know what might be the problem?
[06:00] <someusernoob> skynet: wait a minute, i dont knwo where you are exactly
[06:00] <DJAdmiral> MrMikey: try checking the usb stick from the live cd?
[06:00] <MrMaDSeN> how do I set LC_ALL ?
[06:00] <kazik> guys i dont have sound in kubuntu. somebody can help me? ;)
[06:00] <funman> hi
[06:00] <MrMikey> Not yet
[06:00] <tizwonder> crashd: if i use a regular ps2 mouse, it works fine. but usb wont do anything.
[06:00] <DJAdmiral> Ademan: you doomed your friend with Automatix
[06:00] <SkyNeT> i see all the partions
[06:00] <SkyNeT> we made
[06:01] <MrMikey> I think when I had a clean breezy install, it mounted automatically
[06:01] <MrMaDSeN> how do I set LC_ALL ?
[06:01] <SkyNeT> there fast32
[06:01] <DJAdmiral> MrMaDSeN: export LC_ALL=value
[06:01] <SkyNeT> ext3
[06:01] <Ademan> DJAdmiral: meh, i'd heard good things (though i'd never used it myself)
[06:01] <SkyNeT> linux-swap
[06:01] <funman> i'm searching some help about update-catalog and the file debian/xmlcatalogs in packages which include docbook files
[06:01] <SkyNeT> sextended
[06:01] <[NP] Tangent> does anyone here know how to configure xorg.conf ?
[06:01] <SkyNeT> ext3
[06:01] <funman> #debian seems to be dead
[06:01] <MrMaDSeN> DJAdmiral, in term?
[06:01] <Uriku> hmm... how can I change the background image of the grub loader?
[06:01] <DJAdmiral> Ademan: good things are only 0.0001% of all reports of automatix
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:01] <sethk> MrMaDSeN, that's correct.  should have with dapper also.  install breezy and then upgrade to dapper.  Or just run breezy for a while longer, until dapper works better.  that's what I do.
[06:01] <Ademan> DJAdmiral: well thats ratehr dissapointing to hear... lol
[06:02] <Ademan> maybe i should tell him to reinstall... lol
[06:02] <[NP] Tangent> Jack_Sparrow: I could figure that much out
[06:02] <Ademan> and just teach him the "right" way
[06:02] <ChaosFan> MrMaDSeN: i'd write it in ~/.bashrc
[06:02] <funman> any debian/ubuntu packager ?
[06:02] <DJAdmiral> Ademan: I would recommend you do this
[06:02] <[NP] Tangent> but my problem is: X won't detect my built in laptop monitor, and thus it won't start
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Nothing is obvious here
[06:02] <someusernoob> skynet: wait a minute please, im opening the ubuntu live cd now in vmware, so i can see what you are seeing, its been  a while since i saw the installer
[06:02] <Ademan> DJAdmiral: whats with all of the horror stories?
[06:02] <DJAdmiral> Ademan: reinstall ubuntu, and use easyubuntu, but install only ONE thing at a time with it
[06:02] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:02] <SkyNeT> brb
[06:02] <SkyNeT> getting a smoke
[06:02] <HeathenDan> sigh, it's a slow day in xubuntu... not many ppl asking for support
[06:03] <SkyNeT> can;t get over all the partition needed
[06:03] <someusernoob> skynetL: good idea :P im allready smoking
[06:03] <DJAdmiral> Ademan: the way Ademan works around with your sources.list is freaky. Messes things up.
[06:03] <SkyNeT> lol
[06:03] <MrMaDSeN> ChaosFan, I've tried that
[06:03] <phiber_optic> whats the commad to uninstall something?
[06:03] <ChaosFan> MrMaDSeN: and then? ;)
[06:03] <MrMaDSeN> ChaosFan, nothing
[06:03] <DJAdmiral> phiber_optic: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[06:03] <Ademan> i assume the second thing starting with an A was supposed to be Automatix :-)
[06:03] <ChaosFan> MrMaDSeN: restarted bash?
[06:03] <Sanne> Uriku: I never changed it, but I think there's something about it on the ubuntu wiki. Try to search for grub, splash, usplash.
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> phiber_optic: how was it installed?
[06:03] <HeathenDan> how can i give back to the community if no one asks for xubuntu-related help :P
[06:04] <MrMaDSeN> ChaosFan, most likely not.. how do i do?
[06:04] <phiber_optic> DJAdmiral, is that remove all dependencies?
[06:04] <Rinnt> can anyone help me get my camcorder/webcam to work?
[06:04] <Ademan> HeathenDan: seed the xubuntu torrent
[06:04] <Uriku> thanks Sanne
[06:04] <[NP] Tangent> I really need help with X
[06:04] <ChaosFan> MrMaDSeN: just type "bash" fro trying
[06:04] <Sanne> Uriku: you're welcome
[06:04] <DJAdmiral> phiber_optic: I don't think so
[06:04] <[NP] Tangent> I have only command line until I can find another monitor, if this is not fixed
[06:04] <DJAdmiral> !webcam
[06:04] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:04] <ChaosFan> MrMaDSeN: or quit the shell and start a new one
[06:04] <Ademan> [NP] Tangent: what's your problem?
[06:04] <Rinnt> DJAdmiral, cool
[06:04] <[NP] Tangent> X server won't start
[06:04] <[NP] Tangent> it says there is no monitor
[06:04] <DJAdmiral> Rinnt: no problem
[06:04] <[NP] Tangent> it's not detecting my laptop's monitor
[06:04] <SkyNeT> ok all tell you want i lick on
[06:04] <Ademan> [NP] Tangent: did you change your xorg.conf?
[06:05] <Homicide187> hey everyone, im trying to install gnash on my 64 bit ubuntu and im getting a compiler error
[06:05] <DJAdmiral> [NP] Tangent: do you know what version is your xserver-xorg-core?
[06:05] <SkyNeT> it say manually edit partition table
[06:05] <Sanne> Uriku: also try to search here: http://doc.gwos.org/
[06:05] <someusernoob> skynet: ok yes
[06:05] <DJAdmiral> !info gnash
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> I do not know
[06:05] <Ademan> Homicide187: GNASH is nowhere near complete right now...
[06:05] <SkyNeT> that the one we want the other one is erase
[06:05] <ubotu> Package gnash does not exist in any distro I know
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> how might I check real quick?
[06:05] <Homicide187> oh...
[06:05] <HeathenDan> that's a good idea... but i think i dl my xubuntu iso when i reformatted my / drive
[06:05] <DJAdmiral> [NP] Tangent: don't remember the apt-get command
[06:05] <HeathenDan> deleted*
[06:05] <SkyNeT> ok i see all are partition we made brb
[06:05] <DJAdmiral> [NP] Tangent: oh wait
[06:05] <Uriku> yea there is a grub howto in the wiki
[06:05] <Homicide187> well, is there anyway i can get flash on my 64 bit?
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> FYI.. Better questions make for better answers. including what changed or was added before the problem started...
[06:06] <SkyNeT> ok back
[06:06] <DJAdmiral> [NP] Tangent: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core and it'll probably tell you that so and so version of xserver-xorg-core is already installed
[06:06] <leo^> how can we switch between kdm and gdm?
[06:06] <someusernoob> skynet: im still booting into ubuntu live cd right now
[06:06] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:06] <Ademan> HeathenDan: I'm gonna be writing a site on Ubuntu and its derivatives, and I'm going to be including a section "I love ubuntu, how can I give back to the community? I can't program" and then list alternatives, and seeding the torrent was a very easy one, most people have more bandwidth than they know what to do with
[06:07] <someusernoob> skynet: i forgot that the live cd wont work with 192 ram, so i had to resize the memory, stupid me lol
[06:07] <HeathenDan> true
[06:07] <ChaosFan> Homicide187: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Baustelle/32-Bit_chroot_einrichten?highlight=%28chroot%29
[06:07] <EvilIdler> I'm trying to automatically mount Samba shares at login via PAM. I have it working on console login. How do I make the magic happen when logging into X11?
[06:07] <HeathenDan> netstream[eth1: Receiving 167 KB/s, Sending 50 KB/s] 
[06:07] <[NP] Tangent> alright, DJA
[06:07] <ChaosFan> Homicide187: sorry, picked german site...
[06:07] <phiber_optic> is anybody here using tilda?
[06:07] <[NP] Tangent> how might I do that without closing irssi?
[06:07] <HeathenDan> im seeding naughty torrents just to use my extra ul bw
[06:07] <SkyNeT> ic
[06:07] <HeathenDan> =\
[06:07] <Homicide187> lol gutentag
[06:07] <ChaosFan> Homicide187: http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Ubuntu_32bit_CHROOT_for_AMD64
[06:07] <Ademan> HeathenDan: haha
[06:08] <SkyNeT> it work  with 512 right
[06:08] <ChaosFan> Homicide187: afterwards install firefox in chroot, start that 32bit-firefox and install flash plugin in the usul way
[06:08] <someusernoob> skynet: im running it now in a virtual machine on my computer, like a computer inside a computer, so its kinda slow now. yes, 512 works fine, but 192 not enough
[06:08] <DJAdmiral> I'll be right back people, going through some forums
[06:08] <HeathenDan> alas, my wife is calling me to bed... i guess my good deeds will have to wait for another day
[06:08] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:09] <HeathenDan> ttfn
[06:09] <ChaosFan> HeathenDan: hf ;)
[06:09] <forevertheuni> hi I wanted to find a patch aplied in the ubuntu kernel sources, how can I find it? it's the patch for bt-snd-sco
[06:09] <HeathenDan> erm, she's 7 months pregnant...
[06:09] <HeathenDan> bye
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Looks like you already done good
[06:09] <ChaosFan> HeathenDan: then have a good night's sleep ;)
[06:09] <[NP] Tangent> brb
[06:10] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, you clicked manually edit > then you see the partitioner again, right?
[06:10] <SkyNeT> yep
[06:11] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, perfect, just wait a sec again
[06:11] <someusernoob> skynet: click on forward
[06:11] <SkyNeT> witch partition do i click on for forward
[06:11] <someusernoob> skynet: it should say: prepare mount points
[06:12] <MrMaDSeN> ChaosFan, I have export LC_TYPE=da_DK.ISO.8859-1 + LC_ALL=xxxxxx in .bashrc.. is that incorrectly set then?
[06:12] <someusernoob> skynet: just click forward, dont edit the partitions or something
[06:12] <SkyNeT> ok mount point
[06:12] <crashd> sigh. im not having the most luck with ubuntu today
[06:12] <crashd> for some reason, adding repositories in synaptic doesn't work
[06:12] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, left you can select "mount" and right you can select the partition
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> crashd: How did you try to add them?
[06:13] <[H] 3b0R> anyone knows about any repository who has bleeding edge for banshee?
[06:13] <MrMaDSeN> crashd, edit sources.list then?
[06:13] <ChaosFan> MrMaDSeN: dunno
[06:13] <crashd> Jack_Sparrow: synaptics > settings > repos
[06:13] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, left you can select "mount" and right you can select the partition, right?
[06:13] <MrMaDSeN> ChaosFan, ok then.
[06:13] <NullVector> anyone know if there is a firefox 2.0 beta for ubuntu?
[06:13] <crashd> then add > ticking uni/multiverse
[06:13] <crashd> then add again
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[06:13] <SkyNeT> what do i set the mount poin as ?
[06:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:13] <crashd> but they dont turn up in the channels
[06:13] <crashd> i tried that, didnt work either
[06:13] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, dont mess this up :P
[06:13] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[06:14] <JoseStefan> How can i check if i'm currently using packages from a particular repository?
[06:14] <SkyNeT> what do i set the mount point as
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> crashd: Post your sources list to the pastebin
[06:14] <HBK> Hello all!
[06:14] <someusernoob> skynet: select mountpoint: /   and select the partition thats is 4.98 gig, the first EXT3 partition
[06:14] <HBK> I am in Ubuntu
[06:14] <HBK> via Live CD
[06:14] <HBK> It's not installing
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[06:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:14] <DJAdmiral> HBK: Congratulations!
[06:14] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:15] <[H] 3b0R> anyone knows about any repository who has bleeding edge for banshee?
[06:15] <HBK> I get error it says can't convert File System, can' I install Ubuntu on a USB disk?
[06:15] <someusernoob> skynet: then select mount point: swap    and select the 1 gig swap partition you made
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> HBK: welcome
[06:15] <TheGateKeeper> HBK: got windows on your hard disk?
[06:15] <HBK> Yes windows
[06:15] <someusernoob> skynet: you do this below the mount point  /
[06:16] <crashd> gonna try what TheGateKeeper posted first
[06:16] <HBK> I have 3 hard disks, 1 for Winblows, 2 for Games and the 3rd USB Enclosure for Ubuntu
[06:16] <SkyNeT> wait
[06:16] <SkyNeT> wait
[06:16] <SkyNeT> wait
[06:16] <[H] 3b0R>  anyone knows about any repository who has bleeding edge of banshee?
[06:16] <someusernoob> skynet: i wait
[06:16] <HBK> but Ubuntu won't install in the USB Drive
[06:16] <SkyNeT> i have the frist one 20GB
[06:16] <TheGateKeeper> HBK: have you reduced the windows partition to give ubuntu room?
[06:16] <SkyNeT> don;t for get my windows XP
[06:16] <ChaosFan> [H] 3b0R:
[06:16] <ChaosFan> !repeat
[06:16] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:16] <someusernoob> skynet: forget about that one first, i will explain later
[06:16] <HBK> Yes I have sperate HDD for Ubuntu
[06:16] <HBK> it doesn't install
[06:16] <SkyNeT> the frist 20GB windows xp
[06:16] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: is what I use
[06:16] <ubuntu_> hi guys
[06:16] <ubuntu_> any1 using evolution
[06:16] <SkyNeT> leave the mount point blank
[06:17] <ubuntu_> need a small help
[06:17] <HBK> I want to install Ubuntu on USB Hard Disk it does not do that
[06:17] <someusernoob> skynet: forget about that one first, i will explain later
[06:17] <crashd> ok, gimme a sec, ill pastebin it
[06:17] <ubuntu_> SkyNeT: hey
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[06:17] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: you are using dapper?
[06:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:17] <SkyNeT> ok wait am going to mess up
[06:17] <SkyNeT> i no it
[06:17] <SkyNeT> lolz
[06:17] <HBK> someone help
[06:17] <someusernoob> skynet: ok, let me start over again
[06:17] <SkyNeT> go slow start over
[06:17] <SkyNeT> top to bottom
[06:17] <someusernoob> lol
[06:17] <SkyNeT> frist one
[06:18] <ubuntu_> no1 using evolution?
[06:18] <someusernoob> skynet: first one. make the mount point say /   and on the right size select the 4.98 partition
[06:18] <crashd> TheGateKeeper: yeah
[06:18] <crashd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22337 is my sources list
[06:18] <HBK> Ok just one question - you can't install Ubuntu on a USB Enclosure Harddisk?
[06:18] <ubuntu_> come on guys :(
[06:18] <ucordes_> wit so much drama in the lbc, it's kinda hard being snoop d.o. doubble g
[06:18] <SkyNeT> i can;t pick 4.98
[06:19] <crashd> im trying to install flashplugin-nonfree and it whines about the package not existing
[06:19] <Hexidigital> !info d4l
[06:19] <SkyNeT> on the frist one it a solded 20GB
[06:19] <SkyNeT> that my windows
[06:19] <ubotu> Package d4l does not exist in any distro I know
[06:19] <HBK> >:o
[06:19] <HBK> lol
[06:19] <SkyNeT> can;t pick
[06:19] <SkyNeT> frist one
[06:19] <robertj> anyone know what \255 codes I need to send to telnet so that it will not miss all server output that occurs before the first client input?
[06:19] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: ok hang on...
[06:19] <someusernoob> skynet: ok
[06:19] <someusernoob> skynet ic
[06:19] <ucordes_> rollin down the street, smokin indow, sippin on jin and juice
[06:20] <SkyNeT> so what do i make the 20GB sold as
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> HBK: give up a couple gigs of real drive space, shrink windows a little..
[06:20] <someusernoob> skynet: make the first one: /media/Windows (you have to tyope this)     and on the right size the 20 gig windows partition selected
[06:20] <yango> how can you tell if your computer has USB1.0/1.1 or 2.0?
[06:20] <SkyNeT> there no /media/
[06:20] <someusernoob> skynet: size = side, sorry, i got some typo's flying around here
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> yango: SOmetimes in bios
[06:20] <phiber_optic> does anybody knows why everytime I go into windows my clock changes?
[06:20] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:20] <someusernoob> skynet, you have to type it manually
[06:20] <npster> Hey. I got soundKonverter and the flac format was supposed to zip up sound files without lowering their quality, thus, making the file smaller. My problem is that it makes the file 20MB + the original one
[06:21] <HBK> jack Sparrow your not getting me! I have full seprate HDD 80 GB for Ubuntu it is USB 2.0 but when Ubuntu install it stops on 15% saying cannot convert file system
[06:21] <yango> Jack_Sparrow: lsusb doesn't help?
[06:21] <SkyNeT> type it how it should look
[06:21] <npster> what is up with that
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> yango: Try it
[06:21] <someusernoob> skynet: /media/Windows
[06:21] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: make sure you have done: sudo apt-get update then use this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[06:21] <ChaosFan> npster: flac doesn't create small files, but flawless ones
[06:21] <crashd> TheGateKeeper: that's what im following ;\
[06:21] <compengi> yango, if your mb is p4 then you have usb 2.0, the mb should be 865 chipset and above
[06:21] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:21] <npster> And ogg files are ziping the files up for about -3MB
[06:21] <DanaG> Argh, I wanted to try to get this Aiptek tablet to work, but it looks like it won't be easy
[06:22] <SkyNeT> frist one done
[06:22] <someusernoob> skynet: from left to right it should show this:   /media/Winwdows    20    partition1 (blabla i dont know the names of your partition)
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> compengi: I have P4 3ghz and I set my usb to 1.1 in bios
[06:22] <npster> ChaosFan: OK, I guess I miss understood
[06:22] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: should work with the repos I have given you, it's what I have already done
[06:22] <cajun> i'm trying to install Dapper from the Live CD and I keep getting the following error "The test of the file system with type fat16 partition #1 found uncorrected errors."   Is it safe to reformat this partition?  I am running XP Pro on another partition and I recently resized that partition.  the partition that this error pertains to was created by XP when it was installed I assume.
[06:22] <yango> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
[06:22] <crashd> TheGateKeeper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22339
[06:22] <someusernoob> skynet: second one:  /       4.98      partition2 (blabla i also do not knows what is says here.
[06:22] <crashd> is what apt-get returns
[06:22] <yango> compengi: it seems it isn't :(
[06:22] <compengi> Jack_Sparrow this is an option in your mb, but you have 2.0 :)
[06:23] <DanaG> TheGateKeeper: Is it an OEM system>
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> cajun: Id go to windows and do a scandisk and defrag
[06:23] <compengi> Jack_Sparrow it supports it
[06:23] <DanaG> If it is, it may be a recovery partition.
[06:23] <SkyNeT> it don;t tell me if it 4.98GB
[06:23] <ChaosFan> npster: for daily use ogg/mp3 is more appropriate than flac. except you need to have high quality, what usually isn't the case
[06:23] <SkyNeT> i just pick the top one
[06:23] <cajun> ok so i ahve to do that before i can install Ubuntu?
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> compengi: YEs I agree it supports it
[06:23] <yango> compengi: 845 < 865, right? :D
[06:23] <SkyNeT> as it go in order
[06:23] <cajun> it won't let me continue with those errors
[06:23] <someusernoob> skynet: dont you see the size of the partition in the middle?
[06:23] <thesaltydog> subj: problems with nm-applet. I have correctly typed my WEP password, but nm-applet hangs and does not connect to the router..
[06:23] <SkyNeT> nope
[06:23] <warpzone> pardon, has anybody had any luck connecting their PDA to ubuntu via USB?
[06:24] <crashd> TheGateKeeper: and checking it out in synaptics doesn't show any flashplugin-nonfree either
[06:24] <HBK> It cannot stop raid monitoring services
[06:24] <Bria1> Hello All
[06:24] <compengi> yango yes 845 supports 2.0
[06:24] <someusernoob> skynet: cant you change on the right size which partition is showing?
[06:24] <npster> ChaosFan: Why not, I think that ogg sounds better than mp3 and the file is smaller
[06:24] <yango> compengi: how? you just said 865 and above
[06:24] <npster> ChaosFan: sorry. Stupid phrase
[06:24] <ChaosFan> npster: usage of ogg or mp3 is a matter of personal taste, in my opinion
[06:24] <JohnStrohecker> saltydog I have the same problem.  i think the last kernel update broke the wireless module.
[06:24] <ChaosFan> npster: both create much smaller files than flac :)
[06:24] <compengi> 865 have been released after 845
[06:24] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: looks to me like it still thinks you are using easyubuntu
[06:24] <compengi> sorry before
[06:25] <Spike1506> :o
[06:25] <crashd> TheGateKeeper: ?
[06:25] <HBK> hel plz someone
[06:25] <thesaltydog> JohnStrohecker, wow! That's a huge problem.. But I am speaking about dapper..
[06:25] <Spike1506> TheGateKeeper,  do i know you?
[06:25] <HBK> help :(
[06:25] <crashd> i assumed easyubuntu was just a script that automated a coupla things
[06:25] <SkyNeT> crap
[06:25] <SkyNeT> install crap :(
[06:25] <SkyNeT> crash
[06:25] <Sanne> crashd: search for the package on packages.ubuntu.com, not what repository it's in (multiverse, in this case), and check if you have it enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:25] <TheGateKeeper> Spike1506: give in, do you?
[06:25] <MrMikey> How do I stop ehci_hcd being loaded at boot?
[06:25] <HBK> GateKeeper help
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> crashd: And messes up a few systems in the process
[06:25] <Sanne> crashd: : s/not/note
[06:25] <SkyNeT> open it a gane
[06:25] <crashd> Jack_Sparrow: O_o
[06:25] <cens0red> hi.
[06:26] <Spike1506> TheGateKeeper, nvm
[06:26] <Spike1506> :p
[06:26] <Spike1506> bbl
[06:26] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: you have pressed reload in synaptic
[06:26] <crashd> aye
[06:26] <someusernoob> skynet: maybe you should reboot the computer once, if things keep on crashing, it shouldnt happen normally
[06:26] <npster> What is the native audio format for audio files. The one that just stores the Binary created by the Sound Card, no algorithms... ????
[06:26] <HBK> someone help me? :(
[06:26] <cens0red> I re sized my screen using the Screen Resolution in the Gnome Settings menu. Now my panel is stuck in the middle of the screen. :(
[06:26] <MrMikey> cens0red, Tried rebooting or restarting gnome?
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[06:26] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:26] <someusernoob> skynet; ive got to go to dinner now, ill be back in ~ 15 minutes, maybe some one was reading aling and can help you out untill i am back
[06:26] <maxblack> what is the general consensus...  KDE or GNOME?
[06:27] <npster> HBK: say it again
[06:27] <someusernoob> skynet; i will be back in ~ 15 minutes
[06:27] <cens0red> MrMikey tried rebooting the whole system. Still wedged there.
[06:27] <MrMikey> =(
[06:27] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: what does this return ??
[06:27] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:27] <crashd> Sanne: it's definitely enabled in sources
[06:27] <MrMikey> I have no idea then.. sorry :(
[06:27] <cens0red> I have discovered a bug in gnome.
[06:27] <TEN> How do I install a download .deb if the Synaptic Package Manager won't let me add it (i.e. keeps it greyed out)?
[06:27] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: cat /etc/issue  ooops
[06:27] <crashd> TheGateKeeper: it just updates fine, but still no flashplugin-nonfree
[06:27] <ChaosFan> npster: never thought about that... .wav perhaps?
[06:27] <npster> ok
[06:27] <crashd> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[06:27] <maxblack> has anyone tried to install that Astronomy program.... Celestia?
[06:27] <DanaG> It seems like every few times I boot, the system hangs at: [17179596.300000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:04:09.0[A]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 177
[06:27] <Sanne> crashd: what architecture are you on? (amd64, i386, ppc...)
[06:27] <DanaG> That's my cardbus sound card, and if I eject the card while it's hung, it instantly reboots.
[06:28] <ChaosFan> TEN: dpkg -i <deb-file>
[06:28] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: hmmm!
[06:28] <crashd> Sanne: amd64
[06:28] <cens0red> Is there a conf file somewhere in my user dir, that sets exactly where the panels are supposed to be?
[06:28] <npster> maxblack: That one sucks. Try KStars
[06:28] <Sanne> crashd: there's no flashplugin for amd64
[06:28] <crashd> oh
[06:28] <crashd> heh.
[06:28] <HBK> npster ok here it goes - I have Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Kubuntu installs fine on my USB HDD it's in a USB enclosure. Ubuntu when I install it...it says converting file system and then after 15% when it goes to install it says "error can't convert file system". Yes my HDD is formatted I have nothing in it.
[06:28] <SkyNeT> ok back
[06:28] <crashd> that'd be why then, eh?
[06:28] <reptyle> TEN, open up the folder using nautilus ... double click on the .deb package.  or in a terminal sudo dpkg -i <debpackakge>.deb
[06:28] <SkyNeT> showing me the size now
[06:28] <crashd> i can still install the GPL one thou, i assume?
[06:28] <Sanne> crashd: you can install the 32bit Firefox and use the 32bit flash plugin, there's a howto on the forums, shall I find it for you?
[06:28] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: you using amd64??
[06:28] <ChaosFan> crashd: because adobe/macromedia doesn't want to build one
[06:28] <[NP] Tangent> alright, I reinstalled xserver-xorg-core
[06:28] <npster> HBK: I have no Idea
[06:29] <crashd> Sanne: yeah, that might be handy
[06:29] <[NP] Tangent> but that removed my modules
[06:29] <Sanne> crashd: oh, the glp one might vbe there
[06:29] <crashd> TheGateKeeper: yeah, heh, sorry, it slipped my mind to say O-o
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> HBK: then install gnome into Kubuntu
[06:29] <[NP] Tangent> I can't seem to get the names of the modules, it scrolls too fast
[06:29] <ChaosFan> crashd: you could install a 32bit-chroot, install firefox in it and use the 32bit firefox, or opera, or mozilla, or whatever you choose
[06:29] <HBK> Jack Sparrow I don't like Kubuntu it's very complicated
[06:29] <[NP] Tangent> I need the Synaptics module, the ati module, among others
[06:29] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: no wounder you didn't tell me that, hang on...
[06:29] <[NP] Tangent> but I don't know the names
[06:29] <crashd> TheGateKeeper: yeah, im sorry, bit scatterbrained today
[06:29] <HBK> is is plausibel to convert Kubuntu to Ubuntu?
[06:29] <TEN> reptyleWell it's got dependencies which are obviously for the forthcoming Edgy Eft - the bug I'm trying to get fixed is https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lm-sensors/+bug/45482
[06:29] <Sanne> crashd: here it is, best to read the whole posting, might help you on your way: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[06:30] <npster> HBK: Kubuntu is the same as Ubuntu just with KDE as a desktop enviroment !!!
[06:30] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:30] <Renan_s2> HBK: with Kubuntu installed type 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> HBK: Like I said... Install gnome once you have kubuntu installed and you can pick which to use
[06:30] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: ^^^^^
[06:30] <crashd> cheers guys
[06:30] <crashd> you're all stars :)
[06:30] <crashd> ill bbiab, gotta go find my Shake install media
[06:30] <crashd> and have a cuppa ;)
[06:30] <eclapton> hello all
[06:30] <HBK> is it possible to conevert Kubuntu to Ubuntu? But during the boot screen will it tell me that I have Kubuntu or Ubuntu? after I install gnome
[06:30] <Sanne> crashd: good luck :)
[06:30] <SkyNeT> can some help me set this ip
[06:30] <SkyNeT> up
[06:31] <TEN> ChaosFan So this is why dpkg will refuse (needs newer libc etc.)
[06:31] <HBK> I want it to tell me I have Ubuntu not Kubuntu. will it say that?
[06:31] <TheGateKeeper> crashd: for flash & multimedia because of codecs you still need 32bit apps
[06:31] <SkyNeT> am at mount point
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> HBK: doubtful
[06:31] <ChaosFan> TEN: what about an update?
[06:31] <eclapton> do you know of some irc channel for audio help, I have a problem with a midi usb keyboard
[06:31] <npster> HBK: NOOOOO!!!!! You just install GNOME on KUBUNTU AND REMOVE KDE !
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> HBK: Are you worried about your splash screen or your os
[06:31] <phiber_optic> how do I update mozilla to 1.5.0.6?
[06:31] <HBK> I want both! I want both
[06:31] <HBK> Splash Screen and OS
[06:32] <npster> HBK: You cant have 'em both
[06:32] <fyrestrtr> eclapton: try #linuxhelp
[06:32] <HBK> why doesn't Ubuntu install then! on USB drive
[06:32] <npster> HBK: You will have them
[06:32] <pdlnhrd> does anyone know of a howto to create lvm using the installer?  i can't get it to create lvm partitions
[06:32] <ChaosFan> npster: of course you can have it both
[06:32] <HBK> what's the problem really?
[06:32] <npster> ChaosFan: Sorry I was confused
[06:32] <HBK> Kubuntu install's on 15 mins. why not Ubuntu!
[06:32] <pppp> hi
[06:32] <TEN> ChaosFan I'm currently in a live system not even touching the HDD. Guess Xubuntu LTS 6.06.1 is as good as it gets for the moment. Actually all I need is this mkdev.sh
[06:33] <reptyle> pdlnhrd, you need to use the alternate intall cd.
[06:33] <ChaosFan> HBK: why not install kubuntu then?
[06:33] <SkyNeT> man am sleepy
[06:33] <npster> HBK: Something is worng with the CD. Order a new one or do as we told you before
[06:33] <HBK> okay so I will install Kubuntu now and be back here so help me convert it to Ubuntu y'all plz
[06:33] <pdlnhrd> reptyle:  d'oh.. why is it in the regular installer than... : (
[06:33] <DanaG> TEN: for "no i2c devices found"
[06:33] <npster> HBK: OK
[06:33] <[NP] Tangent> I really need help here
[06:33] <DanaG> try modprobeing i2c-dev
[06:33] <HBK> ok thanks
[06:33] <HBK> bye
[06:33] <jabular> 
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[06:33] <eclapton> fyrestrtr: ok, gonna try, anyway, there it goes I have a Midistart2 keyboard USB MIDI connected
[06:33] <eclapton>  but I can get no sound from it
[06:33] <eclapton>  I have sound with qjackctl and vkeybd
[06:33] <eclapton>  but the keyboard doesn't appear in qjack
[06:33] <eclapton>  any help? is there any package left? have Ububntu breezy badger
[06:33] <[NP] Tangent> if someone can get me the package names of the xserver-xorg ati and synaptics modules, that would be great
[06:34] <reptyle> pdlnhrd, ask the installer team, but I would probably surmize those that need the regular install disc / live cd, don't need raid or lvm :)
[06:34] <phiber_optic> how can i update firefox to 1.5.0.6?
[06:34] <pppp> options boot live cd-ubuntu
[06:34] <Goshawk> hi is there a pbuilder expert here?
[06:34] <Renan_s2> !info dosemu
[06:34] <ubotu> dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-3build1 (dapper), package size 877 kB, installed size 2024 kB
[06:34] <pdlnhrd> reptyle:  i am using the server disk... but i understand your point... at least it only take 5 min to download the iso
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> [NP] Tangent: 'synaptics modules' ??
[06:35] <[NP] Tangent> yes, for my laptop's touchpad
[06:35] <peterretief> what is the default filesystem for ubuntu?
[06:35] <peterretief> please
[06:35] <[NP] Tangent> Synaptics is the module it uses
[06:35] <Sanne> [NP] Tangent: try to find them in packages.ubuntu.com
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> [NP] Tangent: it should already be enabled by default.
[06:35] <TheGateKeeper> peterretief: ext3 i think
[06:35] <Goshawk> peterretief: there is not one you may choose
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> and for ati, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[06:35] <[NP] Tangent> fyrestrtr, when I installed xserver-xorg-core, it evidently didn't install the modules I need
[06:35] <ChaosFan> peterretief: i think ext3 is the one closest to a "default"
[06:35] <[NP] Tangent> being that right now I only have command line, things are a tad bit difficult
[06:36] <Ubuntoer> Hi -- need permissions help.  I have a folder "gramps" with permissions for group to write to: drwxrwxr-x 3 root users 104 2006-09-02 12:29 gramps/ but a normal user can't write to it! e.g. $ touch gramps/test restults in: touch: cannot touch `gramps/test': Permission denied
[06:36] <Goshawk> peterretief: btw as people are saying ext3 and reiserfs are teh bests (i prefer the second)
[06:36] <fyrestrtr> [NP] Tangent: what are you trying to get, a complete desktop system?
[06:36] <peterretief> ok cause i am trying to recover from a complete wipe out ;)
[06:36] <[NP] Tangent> I'm trying to fix xserver!
[06:36] <ChaosFan> Ubuntoer: is that user in group users?
[06:36] <reptyle> Ubuntoer, you need to add users to the group users :)
[06:36] <[NP] Tangent> it won't start up because the modules aren't there
[06:37] <unio> is "TestDisk" what i need to use to play .avi files? i googled and used the search tool built into synaptic, but can't figure it out... it sounds like it just recovers those types of files.
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> [NP] Tangent: to fix it, once its installed, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:37] <[NP] Tangent> it was for whatever reason previously configured to use an external monitor
[06:37] <[NP] Tangent> alright
[06:37] <ChaosFan> peterretief: i personally prefer xfs
[06:37] <[NP] Tangent> I'll try taht
[06:37] <[NP] Tangent> brb
[06:37] <Sanne> [NP] Tangent: it might run with the vesa driver, so you can start it and search more comfortably.
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !avi
[06:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:37] <SkyNeT> any one here be able to help me at mount point on install ubuntu
[06:37] <Goshawk> SkyNeT: look at /etc/fstab
[06:37] <SkyNeT> i all ready partition all the drives
[06:38] <Ubuntoer> ChaosFan: hmm maybe not.  What is the command to add this user to group users?
[06:38] <DanaG> unio: for file system stuff, try Ultimate Boot CD
[06:38] <DanaG> It's an awesome utility.
[06:38] <Goshawk> SkyNeT: mount points are in /etc/fstab
[06:38] <DanaG> It has TestDisk and many other things.
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: I watched you go through and creat your partitions, was there a reason you did it manually?
[06:38] <reptyle> Ubuntoer, System > administration > users and groups
[06:39] <ChaosFan> Ubuntoer: adduser <user> <group>
[06:39] <SkyNeT> yes
[06:39] <Goshawk> peterretief: DanaG is right with TestDisk you can recover wiped partitions
[06:39] <sv573p4n> hi
[06:39] <peterretief> ChaosFan, I have lost all data on one drive, trying to get something back - claims bad superblock but I cant remember what f/f I chose to install with - would have used a default, hence my question
[06:39] <unio> DanaG: where do i get that?
[06:39] <maple1> will MSN messenger 7 work on WINE?
[06:39] <SkyNeT> it was 20GB that was not partition
[06:39] <SkyNeT> at all
[06:39] <SkyNeT> that why
[06:39] <DanaG> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[06:39] <peterretief> testdisk ?
[06:39] <sv573p4n> maple1: why would you want to use MSN messanger?
[06:40] <FurryNemesis> maple1, why not use something like Miranda or Gaim?
[06:40] <DanaG> I've used testdisk to recover when Windows decided my 6 partitions were just one -- even AFTER I mistakenly formatted the one.
[06:40] <SkyNeT> and am setup so i can boot up from windows xp or ubuntu
[06:40] <Goshawk> peterretief: yep it's an utility to recover partitions, also photorec do a good job
[06:40] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: Personally, I would just delete the partition and the swap and tell the installer to use all unallocated space.. But that would be a big step backwards at this point
[06:40] <unio> :/ anyother way to get .avi files to work, DanaG?
[06:40] <bartas> hi
[06:40] <DanaG> That's a different issue.
[06:40] <maple1> FurryNemesis, I want voice clips and stuff
[06:40] <maple1> I'm already using gaim
[06:41] <DanaG> You were talking file system problems before, right?
[06:41] <DanaG> (sudden topic change -- I do that sometimes, too)
[06:41] <unio> no, i just need something to play .avi files... >_<
[06:41] <maple1> unio: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[06:41] <sv573p4n> gaim 2.0 will hopefully have them in the near future ;_0
[06:41] <sv573p4n> ;-)
[06:41] <unio> maple1: thank you
[06:41] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: YOu should have been able to tell the installer to use that whole drive and let it rip
[06:41] <rtrekker> hi
[06:41] <DanaG> Oh, then that's a different issue.
[06:42] <DanaG> You just need to find the right codecs.
[06:42] <unio> :S still not what i need, just never mind.
[06:42] <SkyNeT> will why do i need so many drives
[06:42] <SkyNeT> for
[06:42] <DanaG> Automatix is better than EasyUbuntu, right?
[06:42] <rtrekker> i've got a little problem with gcc.
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> DanaG: Neither
[06:42] <rtrekker> i don't know how to use trigraphs.
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: YOu have windows on there now?
[06:43] <SkyNeT> yes
[06:43] <sris> Hi! I have six drives in my box, with five of them dedicatd for windows usage. i recently installed ubuntu on primary master ide drive, and windows is installed on a sata drive. Im having some problem getting the dual boot to work, and i did some googling and i think i will have to use the map directive. my question is, when you use map, how can i find out the "labels" like hd0, hd1, and so on, so i map to the right drive.
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> first partition I assume
[06:43] <SkyNeT> but my 40 GB in hafe
[06:43] <SkyNeT> 20GB in windows xp
[06:43] <looktj> DanaG: dont use neither of them
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: Ok, so you have 20 gig you want to use for Ubuntu?
[06:43] <SkyNeT> other 20GB is not formated let
[06:43] <DanaG> Why not?
[06:43] <SkyNeT> yes
[06:43] <SkyNeT> that right
[06:43] <DanaG> (besides the fact that it won't do uninstalls for you)
[06:43] <Muhamer> ITS ME
[06:43] <Muhamer> :D
[06:43] <looktj> Destroys your box
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: Did you create any partitons there?
[06:44] <Ubuntoer> ChaosFan: hmm didn't work: $sudo usermod  -G  users -a  jerryb worked but $ groups jerryb yeilds adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin and touch still fails
[06:44] <SkyNeT> yes
[06:44] <Muhamer> Ok
[06:44] <SkyNeT> creat ext3 5GB
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> DanaG: We see messed up systems in here every day from people using those
[06:44] <SkyNeT> lunix swap 1 GB
[06:44] <DanaG> Aah.
[06:44] <Muhamer> Anyone know how I can play WMA songs on a Ubuntu Live CD?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> sris,  the grub shell has drive completion and can show what drives its showing as what names. Check the grub homepage for the official grub docs.  Then theres the  /boot/grub/device.map file
[06:44] <Muhamer> Anyone know how I can play WMA songs on a Ubuntu Live CD?
[06:44] <SkyNeT> and 12Gb of another
[06:44] <SkyNeT> for get the name
[06:44] <DanaG> All I installed through there were codecs and the new Gaim.
[06:45] <sris> Dr_Willis, thanks!
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: Why the extra partition?
[06:45] <msivanich> Im install Compiz on kubuntu and im looking at the guide
[06:45] <ChaosFan> Ubuntoer: sudo adduser jerryb users
[06:45] <unikon> muhamer did u get thexp admin pw yet
[06:45] <SkyNeT> i don;t no
[06:45] <SkyNeT> i new
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> sris,  grub is one of those tools thats very flexable. and can be rather complex. to learn :P
[06:45] <SkyNeT> lolz
[06:45] <DanaG> Oh, and Azureus.
[06:45] <Muhamer> uni
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: k
[06:45] <DanaG> And Java.
[06:45] <Muhamer> how do u kno
[06:45] <Muhamer> :p
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> sris,  just rember grub starts counting at 0 :)
[06:45] <DanaG> And fonts.
[06:45] <peterretief> thanks all
[06:45] <sris> Dr_Willis, i bet ;) this is my first linux-install ever so a lot of new stuff to learn ;)
[06:45] <unikon> i looked at my logs from last night in this channel
[06:45] <DanaG> I guess that's not an "all I used it for ..."
[06:46] <Muhamer> unikon: My friend is coming over with his cd that has the file to change admin pass so yes I will get it today :-) cant wait
[06:46] <DanaG> Well, in my case, it didn't break.
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: Personally I would delete those other partitions.. then just tell the installer to use all unallocated space and let it take care of it for you
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[06:46] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:46] <tkup> does the ubuntu "Desktop CD" have LVM tools or is it that the "Alternate CD" is the only one that has them?
[06:46] <unikon> muhamer are u able to burn cds at all
[06:47] <DanaG> Jack_Sparrow: I learned that when I tried Edgy for a while.
[06:47] <SkyNeT> will why would i be doing it this way ?
[06:47] <SkyNeT> for
[06:47] <Qwerty> !gnokii
[06:47] <ubotu> gnokii: Datasuite for the mobile phones (console & X). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.12-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 812 kB, installed size 2952 kB
[06:47] <Goshawk> tkup: alternate one
[06:47] <BlueEagle> tkup: Only the alternate install cd will let you set up LVM afaik.
[06:47] <DanaG> Luckily, I had dd'd a backup of my Dapper before dist-upgrading.
[06:47] <SkyNeT> i just wait for him
[06:47] <DanaG> Jack_Sparrow: What does Automatix "break"?
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> People, it has been fun, but I need to spend some time with my wife...
[06:48] <SkyNeT> he sound like he new what he doing so
[06:48] <unikon> muhamer can u burn cd's
[06:48] <BlueEagle> danag: It has been known to overwrite configuration files w/o asking and thus wrekcing both X and various other servers afaik.
[06:48] <DanaG> aah.
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: No problem, I understand... good luck
[06:48] <SkyNeT> why can;t there just be one partition all the rest pace to put stuff on the hard drive
[06:48] <Muhamer> Me personally?
[06:48] <Muhamer> Never tried.
[06:48] <BlueEagle> danag: Then again I have heard of people using automatix and not have any trouble at all. Tho they are few and far between.
[06:49] <unikon> damnit
[06:49] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: there can be, but i'd recommend 3 in your case
[06:49] <DanaG> I just avoid anything that seems to be deeper in the system (like the ctrl-alt-del thing)
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> SkyNeT: ONe partition for XP one for Ubuntu and a swap
[06:49] <fyrestrtr> bottom line is, we don't like people using automatix on ubuntu. So don't use it, and then ask for help in here.
[06:49] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:49] <Muhamer> jack
[06:49] <fyrestrtr> automatix discussions are either in #ubuntu-offtopic or #automatix.
[06:49] <SkyNeT> chanosfan
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Muhamer: I am leaving in a minute.. is it quick
[06:49] <SkyNeT> can you help me
[06:49] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: i can try
[06:50] <Muhamer> nvm
[06:50] <TEN> DanaG Thanx! This creates the /dev/i2c* - seems the error message is quite misleading (sensors-detect only works -and then offers to try&load i2c-dev- *after* modprobe i2c-dev)
[06:50] <SkyNeT> i set up all 3 partitions
[06:50] <Muhamer> leeeeeave nub
[06:50] <SkyNeT> will 3 one in side the other
[06:50] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: so, which partitions do you have at the moment?
[06:50] <DanaG> I don't remember how I found that.
[06:50] <SkyNeT> will 4 one in side the other
[06:50] <unikon>  theres on easy way to get the admin pw  via live cd and doesnt  have the possible effects that ntpwwd does it doesnt erase anything
[06:50] <DanaG> It seems like they should automatically modprobe the base i2c
[06:50] <unikon> http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/
[06:50] <SkyNeT> ok all tell you ext3 5GB
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks fyrestrtr  ....  Back later in the day..
[06:50] <Muhamer> wtf
[06:50] <Muhamer> mine was ext2
[06:50] <SkyNeT> linux -swap 1GB
[06:50] <Muhamer> 20gb
[06:51] <unikon> muhamer have your friend download and burn this  http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/
[06:51] <Muhamer> why
[06:51] <Muhamer> what is that
[06:51] <SkyNeT> then the one that inside the other is 12GB
[06:51] <BlueEagle> muhamer: I guess you'll find out if you go to the site. :)
[06:51] <unikon> A Windows password cracker based on the faster time-memory trade-off using rainbow tables. This is an evolution of the original Ophcrack 1.0 developed at EPFL. Ophrack 2.3 comes with a GTK+ Graphical User Interface and runs on Windows, Mac OS X (Intel CPU) as well as on Linux.
[06:51] <SkyNeT> at the top of all off them i have 20GB windows xp
[06:51] <npster> Is there something like Voice Recognition in Ubuntu?
[06:51] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: ok then
[06:51] <TEN> Now sensors-detect finds the same smsc47m1 I had figured out manually, but it doesn't have any settings in /etc/sensors.conf, so sensors still says "No sensors found."
[06:51] <unikon> better than ntpsswd
[06:52] <JohnStrohecker> Anybody else have problems with the kernel update on 6.06 breaking the wireless network card module?  Can't find good info on usenet or the forums for this.
[06:52] <SkyNeT> what do i set the windows xp mount point as
[06:52] <TEN> I guess there should be some, though, on an i845G board (Fujitsu-Siemens D1386) at least for the fans - any hints?
[06:52] <unikon> muhamer needs to really register his nick
[06:52] <amorphous_> anyone proficient in amule?
[06:52] <peterretief> I cant even mount the drive are there utilities that can force mount ext3 f/s
[06:52] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: you should set mountpoint "/" for the 5GB-partition, "/home" for the 12GB-partition, "/media/windows" for the 20gb-winXP-partition and use the 1.1GB swap partition as swap
[06:53] <BlueEagle> ten: man sensors-conf
[06:53] <Muhamer> that just trys to crack the pass
[06:53] <BlueEagle> ten: however I've got plenyt of stuff in there.
[06:53] <Muhamer> the other one changes it
[06:54] <unikon>  NO OPHCRACK WILL TELL YOU WHAT IS IS
[06:54] <TEN> BlueEagle Do I need to see matching entries in /proc/acpi too or are they unrelated?
[06:54] <unikon>  so u dont have to change it
[06:54] <SkyNeT> ok that how i have it set up
[06:54] <vikash> hey guys ... my screensaver and lock screen  r not working after updates
[06:54] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: you have it? then proceed to the next step
[06:54] <amorphous_> i keep getting 'bad permissions on Temp Dir' message from amule - refuses to start up. worked before - suddenly wont!!?! running dapper, all permissions seem ok for owner (rwx) on all branches to the temp dir (which is on sda (usb external drive))
[06:54] <vikash> it has been 2 weeks
[06:54] <unikon> muhamer it doesnt try
[06:54] <[NP] Tangent> ugh
[06:54] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: and tell me what it is, I never used the graphical installer
[06:54] <amorphous_> anyone have any ideas?
[06:54] <unikon>  it DOES
[06:54] <vikash> and there r no automatic fixes available
[06:55] <Muhamer> will it crack it 100%?
[06:55] <SkyNeT> so it /media/windows 20 windowsxp
[06:55] <unikon> yes
[06:55] <[NP] Tangent> it seems that X server just pain won't detect my laptop's monitor
[06:55] <[NP] Tangent> why would that happen?
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: what file type is the external device?
[06:55] <SkyNeT> then / 5GB ext3
[06:55] <unikon>  it tell you ALL THE USER AND ADMIN PW'S
[06:55] <SkyNeT> swap 1GB swap
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> [NP] Tangent: what kind of laptop do you have? Most LCDs don't need 'detecting' per-se.
[06:55] <ChaosFan> unikon: is caps lock really necessary?
[06:55] <[NP] Tangent> its a Dell Inspiron 600m
[06:55] <SkyNeT> then /home 12GB
[06:55] <vikash> screensaver and lock screen r just not working after updates
[06:55] <vikash> screensaver and lock screen r just not working after updates
[06:55] <unikon> muhamer YOU NEED TO REGISER YOUR NICK
[06:55] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: and thats just fine
[06:56] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:56] <Muhamer> no i dont
[06:56] <SkyNeT> go to the next then
[06:56] <vikash> i have changer gksu to gksudo
[06:56] <SkyNeT> ok wait
[06:56] <lhds> if i have a pc that dont have boot usb in bios... is there a way to load a cd that lets me than get into the usb and boot my linux distro from it?
[06:56] <adminx> If you like Ophcrack's live cd then you should check out BackTrack's live cd. All the tools one could need.
[06:56] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, ??? how dya mean, what file type? is /dev/sda (scussie?), or is the file type a dev?
[06:56] <Muhamer> !r
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <Muhamer> !Noob
[06:56] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:56] <BlueEagle> ten: I really do not know. Haven't explored sensors so much. I for one am missing /dev/i2c* entries. How did you get them?
[06:56] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, sorry - a bit ignorant.. :(
[06:56] <adminx> Here is the link: http://www.remote-exploit.org/index.php/BackTrack
[06:56] <Muhamer> !ubuntu
[06:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:56] <SkyNeT> witch one do i format ?
[06:57] <Muhamer> :-] 
[06:57] <Muhamer> ohw do i register
[06:57] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: all except your windows-partition
[06:57] <vikash> help me guys
[06:57] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:57] <Spike1506> Since a few days im using ubuntu
[06:57] <vikash> if u have solution
[06:57] <_czar> Any reason why typing mail at the command line would produce: bash: mail: command not found
[06:57] <Spike1506> and i never wanna go back to windos
[06:57] <[NP] Tangent> fyrestrtr: any ideas?
[06:57] <Muhamer> UNIX
[06:57] <[NP] Tangent> I really need this working
[06:57] <Muhamer> Which File
[06:57] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell vikash about u
[06:57] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell vikash about repeat
[06:57] <Muhamer> Unix: wHAT File
[06:58] <Enselic> I am writing a simple scipt to log into cvs and checkout an app. However, how can I press "enter" inside the script after I have called cvs login?
[06:58] <ChaosFan> _czar: because mail is not installed or not on your $PATH, perhaps? ;)
[06:58] <vikash> ubotu: screensaver and
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver and - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <Muhamer> Unikon: What file.
[06:58] <SkyNeT> ok
[06:58] <SkyNeT> this is what is says
[06:58] <Muhamer> Unikon: What file.
[06:58] <BlueEagle> vikash: how is lock screen and the screensaver "not working" exactly? What happens when you attempt to lock the screen or invoke the screensaver?
[06:58] <vikash> ubotu: and lockscreen r not working after updates
[06:58] <ubotu> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.1-2 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 124 kB
[06:58] <Muhamer> Unikon: What file.
[06:58] <SkyNeT> The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[06:58] <SkyNeT>      partition #2 of /dev/hda as ext3
[06:58] <SkyNeT>      partition #3 of /dev/hda as swap
[06:58] <SkyNeT>      partition #5 of /dev/hda as ext3
[06:58] <warpzone> hey guys, I want to switch from Gnome to KDE, should I just install kubuntu-desktop or should I reinstall kubuntu completely?
[06:58] <_czar> ChaosFan: Its not auto installed with a fresh install?
[06:58] <Muhamer> v
[06:58] <Muhamer> Unikon: What file.
[06:58] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: perfect, proceed
[06:58] <Muhamer> dam
[06:58] <vikash> BlueEagle: nothing
[06:58] <frdrx> Just install kubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <Muhamer> this guy not here or something
[06:58] <ChaosFan> _czar: dunno, try to install it, then you'll see
[06:58] <NullVector> anyone recommend any contact managers/address books?
[06:58] <vikash> BlueEagle: screensaver does not start after fixed time
[06:58] <Muhamer> Unikon: What file.
[06:58] <_czar> ChaosFan: What is the package name?
[06:59] <vikash> BlueEagle: when i press lock screen nothing happened
[06:59] <SushiK> I know its not ubuntu related, but you guys know so much. Does anybody know of some good freeware/opensource anti-virus programs for windows xp?
[06:59] <ScribbleJ> ChaosFan, don't you realize you're just helping SkyNet towards eventual domination over humankind?
[06:59] <Muhamer> Unikon: What file.
[06:59] <BlueEagle> vikash: is xscreensaver running at all?
[06:59] <vikash> BlueEagle: it happened after updates
[06:59] <mindtircker> i've installed kubuntu desktop for my dapper and boot screen is blue now
[06:59] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, have changed Temp dir in amule.conf to ~/dir, but still have same message...
[06:59] <mindtircker> how can i get it back?
[06:59] <Muhamer> WOW
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> [NP] Tangent: just try Option "DPMS" in your device section for the monitor
[06:59] <Muhamer> anyone kno what file
[06:59] <Muhamer> i need from
[06:59] <vikash> BlueEagle: i m able to select screensaver
[06:59] <warpzone> frdrx: afterwards can I remove all of the gnome libraries? I dont want to have a bunch of leftover bloat thats unused
[06:59] <Muhamer> anyone know
[06:59] <Muhamer> what file i need
[06:59] <Muhamer> http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/
[06:59] <nickkrym> hi, is it possible to configure ubuntu to use the Belkin Wireless Pre-N Network card?
[07:00] <TEN> BlueEagle But your board's one using smsc47m1 as well? I gather from http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/chips/smsc47m1 that it should report fan RPMs and temps at least with the SMSC47M997 on the D1386/7 boards
[07:00] <vikash> BlueEagle:
[07:00] <amorphous_> 'Bad permissions on temp dir' error. Amule still wont start :(
[07:00] <[NP] Tangent> alright
[07:00] <[NP] Tangent> brb again
[07:00] <wuzzy> hi! how do i mount a reiserfs volume so that all users can read/write to it?
[07:00] <ChaosFan> _czar: mailx, i think
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> Muhamer: this is not the support channel for that program, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:00] <BlueEagle> vikash: If you're unable to write 'are', and 'am' (ie complete words) then I am unwilling to help you.
[07:00] <adminx> I think there is a free version of Trend's Anti-Virus software.
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: what user is it running as?
[07:00] <Muhamer> fyre
[07:00] <nickkrym> hi, is it possible to configure ubuntu to use the Belkin Wireless Pre-N Network card?
[07:00] <[NP] Tangent> unless you know how I can switch to a terminal without closing irssi
[07:00] <snid> does anyone know when Azureus 2.5.0.0 will be added to the repos?!!?
[07:00] <_czar> ChaosFan: Thanks. It installed..
[07:00] <adminx> Google it
[07:00] <vikash> BlueEagle: ok i will write
[07:00] <ScribbleJ> wuzzy, is it not -o users,rw?
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> [NP] Tangent: ctrl+alt+f2
[07:00] <vikash> BlueEagle: now please help me buddy
[07:00] <amorphous_> i am the only user, running from term as me
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> !wifi > nickkrym
[07:00] <BlueEagle> vikash: Now, which updates did you install?
[07:00] <lhds> libxau and libx11 are files from what library?
[07:01] <nickkrym> excuse me? wifi?
[07:01] <RedRose> Can anyone help me with building the kernel? I just need to know to to build from after make menuconfig for ubuntu.
[07:01] <amorphous_> i am the only user, running from term as me, fyrestrtr
[07:01] <JohnStrohecker> Anyone else have problems with 6.06 kernel updates breaking the wireless NIC module?
[07:01] <ChaosFan> ScribbleJ: what do you mean? i should just stop helping or what?
[07:01] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: is there a user for amule? I doesn't matter what you are running as, your system has many users other than yourself.
[07:01] <vikash> BlueEagle: after installing drapper drake ... automatic updates showed me a lot of updates around 180 MB
[07:01] <fyrestrtr> RedRose: first, why are you building it?
[07:01] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, ok, hang on...
[07:01] <BlueEagle> vikash: So you had a fresh install that was updated?
[07:01] <biberao> hi
[07:01] <vikash> BlueEagle: right
[07:01] <wuzzy> ScribbleJ: Thanks that was it!
[07:02] <biberao> any of you tried to run NTPV?
[07:02] <ScribbleJ> ChaosFan, I'm just saying if everything in the Terminator movies comes true, it'll be your fault for helping SkyNet.
[07:02] <SpudDogg> anyone here?
[07:02] <vikash> BlueEagle: it also changed gksu instead of gksu ..that was making problem  when i was running administrative applications
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> SpudDogg: no
[07:02] <ChaosFan> ScribbleJ: ah, ok, got that. it's been a while i saw that movie...
[07:02] <SpudDogg> fyrystrtr, oh cool
[07:02] <vikash> BlueEagle: but i again changed gksu to gksudo
[07:03] <] GoldenDragon> heyy can someone help me get Tor on Ubuntu?
[07:03] <vikash> BlueEagle: now administrative applications are working ..
[07:03] <vikash> BlueEagle: but problem is with screensaver startup and lock screen
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> vikash: you know that su and sudo are not the same thing, right?
[07:03] <RedRose> fyrestrtr, Because The current doesn't support my laptop, but the 2.6.17 does
[07:03] <BlueEagle> vikash: and you're getting the screensaver setup screen when running System->Settings->Screen saver?
[07:03] <vikash> BlueEagle: yes
[07:04] <vikash> BlueEagle: i am getting the screen
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> RedRose: support your laptop? Oookay.
[07:04] <tizwonder> offtopic here - anyone ever play around with gentoo at all
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> !kernel > RedRose
[07:04] <vikash> BlueEagle: but it does not starts after selected time
[07:04] <BlueEagle> vikash: and you've checked "Activate screensaver when the session is inactive"?
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> tizwonder: I did, for a long time, but don't ask that in here. There is #ubuntu-offtopic for a reason.
[07:04] <vikash> BlueEagle: yes i have checked both boxes
[07:04] <BlueEagle> ok.
[07:04] <Muhamer> if Unix is here pm me
[07:05] <SkyNeT> you back
[07:05] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: what's up now?
[07:05] <BlueEagle> vikash: open a terminal and type: ps aux|grep xscreensaver
[07:05] <vikash> fyrestrtr: i am using gksudo for gui applications and sudo for command prompt
[07:05] <vikash> BlueEagle: ok
[07:05] <BlueEagle> vikash: does it return a line similar to: 1000     24112 93.8  0.1   3596  1556 ?        RN   19:05   1:03 /usr/lib/xscreensaver/xlyap -root
[07:05] <BlueEagle> ?
[07:05] <RedRose> fyrestrtr, I've used that site, but it gives me no configuration options. I want config options
[07:05] <unikon> muhamer go here http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/#getting
[07:05] <fyrestrtr> vikash: yes, but don't use su or gksu okay?
[07:06] <SkyNeT> it all good it installing
[07:06] <warpzone> alright time to give KDE a try, adios guys and thanx for the help
[07:06] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, sorry - took a while - had to run top in one term & amule in another - but it says it's run by amorphous (me) - if i try run it as root tho, it says another vers is running ( although it isn't)
[07:06] <eclapton> hello, i have problems with my midistart-2 usb midi keyboard, anyone can help?
[07:06] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: wonderful, then have fun exploring your brand-new ubuntu system ;)
[07:06] <vikash>  i did that
[07:06] <vikash> BlueEagle: vikash@vikash-desktop:~$ ps aux|grep xscreensaver
[07:06] <vikash> vikash    9918 49.0  1.9  15524  4976 ?        SN   22:34   0:51 /usr/lib/xscreensaver/mirrorblob -root
[07:06] <vikash> vikash    9990 23.0  1.7  12240  4400 ?        RN   22:36   0:00 xscreensaver-getimage 0x2400067 0x2600010
[07:06] <vikash> vikash    9993  0.0  0.3   2864   776 pts/0    R+   22:36   0:00 grep xscreensaver
[07:06] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell vikash about pastebin
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: top will just tell you it was *launched* by you. It might be running as another user. Check the user in /etc/passwd
[07:07] <vikash> BlueEagle i paste the result above
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: whatever the user amule is running as, that user must have write rights to the directory.
[07:07] <BlueEagle> vikash: I know. You really shouldn't be doing that in here. :)
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> RedRose: how far did you get? make menuconfig?
[07:08] <looktj> !tell vikash > paste
[07:08] <vikash> BlueEagle: then how can i tell u about output
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> vikash: learn to use a pastebin site.
[07:08] <BlueEagle> vikash: I asked you a yes/no question.
[07:08] <vikash> BlueEagle: i dont know about pastebin
[07:08] <vikash> BlueEagle: sorry
[07:09] <BlueEagle> vikash: Well you do now. :)
[07:09] <roryyy48> sal
[07:09] <RedRose> fyrestrtr, yes, i've done that, and I know their are special rules for compiling debian(ubuntu) kernels, but i don't know how with make menuconfig's config file
[07:09] <vikash> BlueEagle: what
[07:09] <looktj> !pastebin
[07:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:09] <looktj> lawl
[07:09] <Ych> how do i upgrade firefox?
[07:09] <BlueEagle> vikash: You know about pastebin now. :)
[07:09] <fyrestrtr> RedRose: you don't do it with the config file, that is just to configure the kernel options (which is standard for all linux distribution). The building process is what differs, and for that you can refer to the wiki page.
[07:10] <bruenig> Ych, are you on dapper?
[07:10] <BlueEagle> vikash: in the terminal try running: /usr/lib/xscreensaver/mirrorblob
[07:10] <vikash> BlueEagle:ok
[07:10] <Ych> yes, bruenig
[07:10] <RedRose> I did, and I wants me to sift through config files instead of using .config
[07:10] <BlueEagle> vikash: does that open a window with a blob reflecting the background image?
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> Ych: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -- if there is an updated version of firefox, you'll get it.
[07:10] <bruenig> Ych, the firefox in the repositories is is 1.5.05
[07:11] <bruenig> Ych, did you want higher than that?
[07:11] <vikash> BlueEagle: yes
[07:11] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, i cant seem to find any entry in /etc/passwd: there's only a short gap between running & error message, but i can't get an entry to show up - is there definatly one there while it's running? and will it be named amule? im using 'cat /etc/passwd|grep ule' as soon as i run amule - that the best approach?
[07:11] <SkyNeT> ok done
[07:11] <SkyNeT> have to restart computer
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: okay, the entry won't be there when the system runs, its either there, or it isn't.
[07:11] <vikash> BlueEagle: not my current backgroud but a space image with blob
[07:11] <BlueEagle> vikash: I see. Well then we'll need to find out why your session doesn't get marked as inactive.
[07:11] <bruenig> Ych, the latest one is only 1.5.06, unless there is something you absolutely need there, I wouldn't worry about it
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: that file is not editing at run time, but only when users are created. How are you launching amule? What command are you using?
[07:12] <RedRose> Can anyone here help me build a kernel?
[07:12] <svu> is knot cd2 available?
[07:12] <BlueEagle> vikash: put the output of ps|aux to pastebin please.
[07:12] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, it's not there :(
[07:12] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, that  a problem?
[07:12] <ChaosFan> amorphous_: /etc/passwd is a file containing all the users your system has, it has nothing to wether specific processes run or not
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: no, just something to check when troubleshooting.
[07:12] <chell> RedRose, have you checked the wiki for information about building a kernel?
[07:12] <vikash> BlueEagle:ok
[07:12] <amorphous_> ok...
[07:12] <Ych> bruenig, i like to be uptodate, but if theres no way to do it i can do with 1 less
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> RedRose: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #debian ;)
[07:12] <amorphous_> no ways! has quite a few users, eh?
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: how are you launching amule? using what?
[07:13] <looktj> how do i upgrade firefox
[07:13] <looktj> i did the commands
[07:13] <looktj> it's still on 1.5.0.5
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> looktj: if there was an updated version, you would have it by now. The version you have is the current most up to date version available for ubuntu.
[07:13] <looktj> should be 1.5.06
[07:14] <amorphous_> terminal - i was using menu>network>amule... but was looking for errors & thought they'd come up better in term...
[07:14] <BlueEagle> looktj: Just out of curiousity: What changed between 1.5.0.5 and 1.5.0.6?
[07:14] <vikash> BlueEagle: did u get that
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: give it a full path to the directory, and check ~/.amule for the configuration. What is the exact text of the error?
[07:14] <chell> BlueEagle, I think there is just some windows bugfixes
[07:14] <bruenig> Ych, you can get the source from getfirefox.com and since they are precompiled binaries, just run the binary in the unzipped directory, you will have to copy over your plugins though, and you will have to launch it seperately, i.e. it will not the firefox in the menus, you will have to create your own new launcher
[07:14] <BlueEagle> vikash: I haven't seen you paste a url yet.
[07:14] <vikash> BlueEagle : i sent output
[07:14] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, just by the by, am running xubuntu - but had no probs before
[07:15] <eclapton> hello, i have problems with my midistart-2 usb midi keyboard, anyone can help?
[07:15] <eclapton> !beer
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <BlueEagle> vikash: if you put the url of the page to which you posted in here then I can get there more quickly
[07:15] <vikash> BlueEagle:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22341
[07:15] <eclapton> poor ol ubotu...
[07:15] <chell> !drugs
[07:15] <bruenig> looktj, you can also look at that last post
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drugs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <chell> good lad ;-)
[07:15] <Muhamer> that was gay
[07:15] <BlueEagle> vikash: ok, what I need is the output of: ps aux
[07:15] <Muhamer> unik are u here
[07:15] <Byan> uhm.. how do I add a user..
[07:15] <BlueEagle> vikash: not ps aux|grep xscreensaver
[07:15] <Byan> I did useradd..
[07:15] <Muhamer> Byan
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> system > administration > users & groups
[07:16] <Byan> but the user doesn't have a home directory
[07:16] <Muhamer> u have to change it
[07:16] <vikash> BlueEagle: then??
[07:16] <BlueEagle> vikash: then what?
[07:16] <Byan> fyrestrtr: from shell
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> man useradd
[07:16] <Muhamer> login screen setup
[07:16] <unikon> yes im here
[07:16] <Muhamer> unikon
[07:16] <Muhamer> what do i do
[07:16] <Muhamer> which one should i do
[07:16] <vikash> BlueEagle: then what??
[07:16] <Muhamer> ntpass thing or crack thing
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> you need to pass it an argument, in addition to the initial groups, the shell, and the home directory.
[07:16] <unikon>  muhamer if u registerd your nick you could just pm me
[07:16] <BlueEagle> byan: useradd doesn't create a home directory for the user unless you ask it to. man useradd will show you how. :)
[07:16] <Muhamer> well how do i register
[07:17] <unikon>  ophcrack is better
[07:17] <Byan> BlueEagle: ahh, ok
[07:17] <[NP] Tangent> YES!
[07:17] <[NP] Tangent> IT WORKS!
[07:17] <chell> if you use the GUI provided by Gnome, a home directory is automatically created
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> [NP] Tangent: :)
[07:17] <vikash> BlueEagle: what command i should execute?
[07:17] <BlueEagle> vikash: I need you to put in pastebin the output (all of it) from the command: ps aux
[07:17] <Byan> BlueEagle: do I have to remove the user to start over?
[07:17] <Muhamer> why did i get kicked
[07:17] <vikash> ok
[07:17] <nalioth> Muhamer: you got the reason with the message
[07:17] <BlueEagle> byan: it's just as easy to do that, yes.
[07:18] <Muhamer> just cuz i said C word?
[07:18] <Byan> BlueEagle: what is the command to delete it then?
[07:18] <BlueEagle> byan: I am guessing: userdel
[07:18] <Muhamer> its off topic
[07:18] <Muhamer> i got banned on offtopic
[07:18] <unikon> muhamer go here to read how to register http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> Muhamer: this is the official ubuntu support channel. For anything other than ubuntu support, ask somewhere else, like #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:18] <Muhamer> I did
[07:18] <Muhamer> they banned me
[07:18] <vikash> BlueEagle: i sent that plz check out
[07:18] <gnomefreak> fyrestrtr: no
[07:18] <Muhamer> cuz their idiots
[07:19] <BlueEagle> muhamer: Well that will learn you not to ask about cracking in here. :)
[07:19] <gnomefreak> Muhamer: no illegal items asked or answered in any ubuntu channel
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> Muhamer: we don't support cracking.... ah ferget it.
[07:19] <vikash> BlueEagle: did u get that?
[07:19] <[NP] Tangent> fyrestrtr, don't ask me how I fixed it
[07:19] <unikon> umm guys this is a ubuntu topic
[07:19] <[NP] Tangent> I just kinda played around
[07:19] <BlueEagle> vikash: and please use your own name in the pastebin, not mine. :)
[07:19] <unikon> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[07:20] <[NP] Tangent> and then my screen just went complpetely black
[07:20] <unikon> ophcrack is ubuntu
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> [NP] Tangent: cool, well atleast now you get to fixing the rest of whatever is not working.
[07:20] <[NP] Tangent> and then when I rebooted, it worked
[07:20] <livingdaylight> this is not directly ubuntu related
[07:20] <vikash> ok
[07:20] <[NP] Tangent> fyrestrtr, that's all that was broken
[07:20] <[NP] Tangent> :)
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> unikon: you'll be next if you don't stop.
[07:20] <Byan> >_<
[07:20] <livingdaylight> got a new sata hardrive
[07:20] <NullVector> can someone help with compiz, trying to figure out how I disable options such as wobbly windows?
[07:20] <bruenig> Byan, use the gui
[07:20] <livingdaylight> how do i get the system to recognise it?
[07:20] <eyequeuelive> !offtopic
[07:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> NullVector: #ubuntu-xgl and #xgl is where you want to be.
[07:20] <bruenig> !compiz
[07:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:21] <livingdaylight> eyequeuelive: nice one mate
[07:21] <Xavos> Salut !
[07:21] <Byan> bruenig: that would require a gui...
[07:21] <eyequeuelive> livingdaylight: heh
[07:21] <bruenig> Byan, ah
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: have you plugged it in, and the bios has detected it properly?
[07:21] <gnomefreak> NullVector: join #ubuntu-xgl for xgl help please
[07:21] <Xavos> Amarok tlcharge automatiquement toute les jaquette
[07:21] <bruenig> didn't realize you were not on gui
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> !fr
[07:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:21] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: i've plugged it in yea, but it went straight into ubuntu
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: system > administration > disks
[07:21] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, ok - have made incoming and temp dirs both point to '/me' in amule.conf... set /me to chmod 777 /me, and run amule.. different error "Bad Permissions on Incoming Directory": changed Incoming dir back to ~/.aMule/Incoming & stuck with same error (bad on incoming) - message in quotes is precise. error "
[07:21] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: i got two hard-drives now. One for Ubuntu and the second to play with
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: see if you see it there.
[07:22] <BlueEagle> !info lvikash
[07:22] <ubotu> Package lvikash does not exist in any distro I know
[07:22] <vikash> BlueEagle: did u get that thing?
[07:22] <BlueEagle> !info dbus-lvikash
[07:22] <unikon> http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/ is ubunt ubased
[07:22] <ubotu> Package dbus-lvikash does not exist in any distro I know
[07:22] <BlueEagle> vikash: I'm seeing some processes that are unknown to me.
[07:22] <eclapton> unikon: dont play with fire...
[07:22] <livingdaylight> eyequeuelive: how about actually trying to help next time? take a cue from fyrestrtr - he's got the spirit
[07:22] <vikash> BlueEagle: ok , i am waiting
[07:22] <bruenig> cool ubotu is now getting more cheeky with his responses
[07:23] <bruenig> !info realplay
[07:23] <ubotu> realplay: RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.. In component main, is optional. Version 10.0.8-0ubuntu1 (dapper-commercial), package size 6110 kB, installed size 15456 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:23] <NullVector> join #ubuntu-xgl
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: hrmm, okay. I guess amule needs specific permissions, not just 777.
[07:23] <eyequeuelive> livingdaylight: help with what?  i saw you as telling someone they were offtopic, hence triggered the bot to suggest the other channels
[07:23] <HentaiXP> unikon, you should of gave him the offline nt password changer link
[07:23] <BlueEagle> vikash: ahh, you've got a too narrow window. Your processlist is being truncated.
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: I would say at this point, read the docs because I don't have amule on here to test. However, try permissions 755
[07:24] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: nice one. It's recognised but  there sdb. So, now can i ask you, how do i get in there and format it, partition it and install my second os on there  :D
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: are there any files in ~/.aMule/Incoming? if there are, chmod -R 755 ~/.aMule
[07:24] <amorphous_> looks like it... although i havent changed any that I know of - interestingly it seems to come up with this error if the dir does not exist (typo)
[07:24] <livingdaylight> eyequeuelive: triggering offtopic didn't help me. But fyrestrtr did
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: well, formatting is easy. Just install gparted and have at it :) Or, if you feel dangerious, fdisk /dev/sdb -- then use the commands, here is a short guide:
[07:25] <livingdaylight> eyequeuelive: maybe its the only command you know
[07:25] <amorphous_> there are none - i been using the sda dir for incoming
[07:25] <vikash> BlueEagle: no its complete
[07:25] <vikash> BlueEagle: i pasted again
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: p, print the current table, n = new partition, t = change partition type, w = write partition to the disk (it doesn't take affect unless you write it).
[07:25] <eyequeuelive> livingdaylight: i'm glad he did; he's a nice guy
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: h will give you a listing of all commands.
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: hrmm, strange. I don't know much beyond what I have said. Hopefully, someone else can chime in.
[07:26] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: i got gparted live cd so, might try that - thx. And then when i boot up where do i get the choice between sda and sdb?
[07:26] <livingdaylight> eyequeuelive: yes, he is, but you are not. So, good-bye
[07:27] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, i seem to be getting there - think your advice has got me  a step further up the ladder...
[07:27] <eyequeuelive> please no personal attacks in here
[07:27] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: well, you'd have to actually install something on it first :) then, you can edit the menu list for grub (/boot/grub/menu.lst) and add whatever lines are necessary for whatever you installed on sdb
[07:27] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, thanks ;) will let you know how i get on
[07:28] <alandd> I have a Compaq Proliant DL380 G1 server. I installed CentOS 4.3 on it so that the hardware health drivers would work properly. However, I want to use Ubuntu (or Debian) instead. Has anyone had success installing HP hardware health drivers (hpasm) on Ubuntu?
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: you don't need a live cd for gparted, you can just install it directly and use it.
[07:28] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: ok, so what? just stick the os in the tray and then specify sdb?
[07:28] <bruenig> fyrestrtr, true but can only be used so long as you aren't messing with active partitions
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> alandd: good news for you is, if it works on (any) linux, it will probably work on ubuntu :) You might have to wrestle with it a bit (as in, compile a new kernel with the modules, compile modules from source, etc.) but it will work.
[07:29] <nahoj> is it possible/recommended to include multiverse/universe in edgy??
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: first, what are you trying to install on it?
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> bruenig: only the truly brave would run *any* partition manager on a live partition :)
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> nahoj: best to ask that in #ubuntu+1
[07:30] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: another GNU/Linux, not decided which yet. I downloaded a number to my 'iso' folder  :D
[07:30] <nahoj> fyrestrtr, ah, thx! did not know of that channel =)
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: ermm, you know about UML? It lets you run multiple linux distros in one. Or why not use vmware and set up a virtual machine?
[07:30] <SkyNeT> ok am back
[07:30] <SkyNeT> and it working
[07:30] <vikash> BlueEagle: what happened?
[07:30] <bruenig> nahoj, I doubt they will ever put anything that by default exposing one to non open source software, so unless they pull flash and others out of universe and multivers, it will probably never be activated by default
[07:30] <bruenig> ex[pses*
[07:30] <bruenig> exposes*
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: the only reason I suggest that, is that its the easiest way to experiment.
[07:31] <rabbit282> total newbie question- I'm trying to install NdisWrapper and the instructions say to use the 'make' command but I keep getting a 'command not found' message- how should I be going about using make for installing?
[07:31] <SkyNeT> i need to no witch one do i boot up in
[07:31] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: never heard of UML and not ever used vmware
[07:31] <SkyNeT> there is 3
[07:31] <SkyNeT> ubuntu
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> !uml
[07:31] <alandd> fyrestrtr: The ugly part is that the drivers are binary only and the installer looks for specific distros to install.  The HP website doesn't list Debian as a supported distro.  I think I'm just going to have to try anyway.
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> alandd: there are ways to fake that ;)
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: uml is user-mode linux. Google it for more info.
[07:32] <SkyNeT> who was helping me in here ?
[07:32] <looktj> omg! firefox crashed
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> alandd: a perfect example on how to do so -- is at the wiki for ... I think DB2 or Oracle. One of which 'requires' RedHat.
[07:32] <t-thing> Hi. What was the name of the backup / network drive system that is or was in beta stage, had graphical front end and if I remember correctly novell was involved with it too?
[07:32] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: ok, i'm still gonna want to put another distro on sdb. Its also a backup in case Ubuntu crashes X again  ;)
[07:32] <unikon> hentaixp  http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/ is more stable and its ubuntu based
[07:32] <alandd> fyrestrtr:  Yes, I had to fake it with the CentOS install so I am aware.  Thanks for the encouragement.  I'll look for that in the wiki.
[07:32] <bruenig> looktj, it does that occassionally
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> alandd: it can be done ;)
[07:32] <SkyNeT> do i boot up in  ubuntu kernel 2.6.15-23-386 ( recovery mod)
[07:32] <HentaiXP> unikon, one resets password the other audits it
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> SkyNeT: no, the non-recovery
[07:33] <SkyNeT> ok
[07:33] <alandd> I know what I'll be doing this weekend, once the yard work is done!
[07:33] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: when you crashed something and need to recover, then yes
[07:33] <SkyNeT> hwhat about  ubuntu memtest86+
[07:33] <NullVector> I am trying to install openoffice from teh add remove programs, thats not working, is there a guide somewhere that I can use?
[07:33] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: when you think your RAM might be broken or something
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: so, if you are just going to play with linux distributions, you can install them on sdb, just don't have whatever you are installing write a bootloader to the mbr (that's where your ubuntu bootloader is).
[07:33] <vikash> BLueEagle: after asking lot of questiong where u have gone,brother
[07:34] <bruenig> NullVector, open up a terminal and tyep "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[07:34] <bruenig> "
[07:34] <unikon> i know  theres a slight risk of  files becoming unmanageable though
[07:34] <SkyNeT> they i got to the test one
[07:34] <SkyNeT> ok
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: either skip the bootloader option in your testing distro, or have it install it on the primary disk (not the mbr). If you install it on the mbr, you'll constantly be recovering grub from the ubuntu livecd.
[07:34] <NullVector> bruenig: thankyou
[07:34] <SkyNeT> so to boot ubuntu i us then  kernel 2.615-23-286
[07:34] <SkyNeT> so us that one to boot up
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: good news for you is, setting up grub for multiple linux distros is easy :)
[07:34] <Drenhead> I have kubuntu installed, but I tried to install gnome to try it out, now I can't log into the system. I said KDE should be the default, but now when I reboot, the gnome login screen comes up. when I login there, the Kubuntu splash screen comes up, but nothing else happens.
[07:35] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: right
[07:35] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr: installer usually tells one if it is compatible and uses the same one
[07:35] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, have progressed - got it started, permissions seem to be touchy, and ~/ isn't good enough (thanks) - have to type full path. now can't get it to use usbdrive BUT - have found that I can't write to usbdrive at all!?! even with sudo. mount tells me that it is vfat (rw), but i can't write. any clues - it's not an amule thing now, that's why i thought you may still be able to help me...
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> Drenhead: are you sure you are chosing the gnome session and not the kde session?
[07:35] <t-thing> oh come on, surely someone can remember it. It was idrive or something similar to apple's solution.
[07:35] <SkyNeT> ok thanks chaosfan
[07:35] <SkyNeT> why don;t tab
[07:35] <SkyNeT> work on ubuntu
[07:35] <SkyNeT> for nicks
[07:35] <ChaosFan> it does
[07:36] <ChaosFan> at least with irssi, i never used another irc client
[07:36] <SkyNeT> ChakRa ChaKy chalcedony chameleon ChaosFan chell chesty chii chol Chousuke Chrisms chrisnias chumphries
[07:36] <SkyNeT> that what i get ?
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: well, you might not be able to write to it because of the mask on the files. Try remounting the drive with umask=000 option
[07:36] <Chrisms> Hey, what can i use to remote desktop with? (windows to ubuntu, and vice versa prehaps)
[07:36] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> t-thing: i think you are talking about that new file system that sun is developing for solaris, I heard that it has something like timemachine?
[07:37] <ChaosFan> Chrisms: ubuntu->windows: rdesktop; never needed the other way round
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: from ubuntu to windows, use the terminal server client (and enable remote desktop on your windows machine). For windows > ubuntu, try vnc.
[07:37] <SkyNeT> nothing right now
[07:37] <Chrisms> fyrestrtr: isn't vnc $$$ though?
[07:37] <SkyNeT> just got it installed
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: no?
[07:38] <SkyNeT> i need to get xchat
[07:38] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: then install it
[07:38] <MrObvious> Chrisms: No it's free.
[07:38] <Chrisms> i thought it was? the site said it was. Where can i download the windows client?
[07:38] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: use synaptic
[07:38] <SkyNeT> like mirc but mirc don;t work on here so have to get xchat
[07:38] <bruenig> SkyNet, sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-systray
[07:38] <chell> I've heard of Ubuntu Christian Edition and I like the Bible Reading program. Can I just install that on my normal Ubuntu installation, try it out and get rid of it if I don't like it anymore?
[07:38] <MrObvious> SkyNeT: Do you have multiverse and universe installed? You need that to get xchat I think.
[07:38] <Toran> Anyone know of any alternative applications that can connect to a ventrilo server and do voice chat?
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> chell: sure.
[07:38] <Chrisms> chell: yes
[07:38] <MrObvious> That's a difference.
[07:38] <kitche> Chrisms: Realvnc and others are free you might be thinking of vnc which does cost money
[07:38] <chell> thanks
[07:38] <MrObvious> I don't know why it's packaged that way.
[07:38] <t-thing> fyrestrtr: no, that's not what I'm talking about. I think this system had front ends for multiple platforms. It ain't that old news even, maybe half a year to a year.
[07:38] <SkyNeT> i don;t think s
[07:39] <nickkrym> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[07:39] <MrObvious> !xchat
[07:39] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[07:39] <SkyNeT> mrobcious
[07:39] <vikash> BlueEagle: //?????
[07:39] <SkyNeT> am new
[07:39] <chell> actually I tried xchat-gnome earlier
[07:39] <Chrisms> Where could i get the free version, for windows?
[07:39] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, Baby! I'm in! ;D
[07:39] <bruenig> SkyNet, put that command in the terminal
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> t-thing: don't remember much, but you might try your luck search on /. might be on there.
[07:39] <MrObvious> SkyNeT: Ok. Lemme pull up the link on the bot for you.
[07:39] <chell> it's got a nice look, BUT lacks some functionality that xchat has to ofer
[07:39] <MrObvious> !universe
[07:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:39] <MrObvious> !easysource
[07:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:39] <chell> !multiverse
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: ermm ... a little 'hey thanks, it worked!' would have sufficed.
[07:39] <bruenig> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[07:39] <kitche> Chrisms: let see Realvnc website
[07:40] <MrObvious> SkyNeT: Get multiverse and universe set up in /etc/apt/sources.list (it's easy if you can edit with sudo), and you can apt-get xchat (not xchat-gnome)
[07:40] <omong_kosong> !automatix
[07:40] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:40] <Chrisms> the realvnc site had a free version, with no features.. and then paid... realvnc. com, right?
[07:40] <MrObvious> I had to figure it out myself.
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> !vnc > Chrisms
[07:40] <abhinay> i tried to install downloader4x by ./configure , the error output was configure: error: *** GLIB >= 2.4.0 not installed! ***, How to install GLIB ?
[07:40] <Chrisms> yeah
[07:40] <Chrisms> i got that fty
[07:40] <MrObvious> Chrisms: Use tightvnc. Or apt-get install vncserver will install a server and a viewer.
[07:40] <Chrisms> that site isn't loading:9
[07:40] <MrObvious> Chrisms: It's on the ubuntu repos.
[07:40] <Drenhead> fyrestrtr:  I chose KDE as my default when installing ubuntu-desktop package, but when I reboot, the gnome login screen comes up.  when I put in my login ID and password, the Kubuntu screen comes up, then nothing else happens.
[07:41] <t-thing> fyrestrtr: oh yeah, good tip! I searched internet wide without results but from slashdot I got on the second search result page. This is what I was looking for http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Main_Page
[07:41] <Chrisms> mrobvious: i did the install vncserver.
[07:41] <amorphous_> fyrestrtr, best i look up umask then... find out what that was all about - any ideas why it might have changed itself? or is that a long shot (and prob a silly q) -- as for the excitement - its been about 4 hrs of hacking about and getting nowhere, but heh, thanks fyrestrtr
[07:41] <kitche> Chrisms: realvnc personal is free
[07:41] <Chrisms> mrobvious: don't i need a client on my windows machien to remote my ubuntu though?
[07:41] <MrObvious> Chrisms: It might need another package, lemme check.
[07:41] <MrObvious> Chrisms: Oh. Go to tightvnc's website.
[07:41] <vikash> BlueEagle: where have u gone buddy..... hacking my syste ????  from the info that i have provide  i m going to log into windows
[07:41] <MrObvious> Chrisms: It's free and installable. I've used it before.
[07:41] <nlindblad> would Breezy => Edgy work?
[07:41] <varsendaggr> hey is there anyone who has gotten gmailfs to work?
[07:42] <nlindblad> or do I need to do: Breezy => Dapper => Edgy
[07:42] <bruenig> nlindblad, edgy is not yet stable, are you sure you want that?
[07:42] <SkyNeT> so what do i need to get xchat MrObvious ?
[07:42] <nlindblad> bruenig: for bughunting
[07:42] <Chrisms> mrobvious: tightvnc works with the install vncserver, right?
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> amorphous_: probably, the permissions on the usb drive are such that your normal user can't write to it. Umask will fix that for you. To find out about umask, either google, or read the man page of 'mount'
[07:42] <MrObvious> Chrisms: Right.
[07:42] <bruenig> Skynet, enable the universe repostorie and then do sudo apt-get install xchat
[07:43] <Chrisms> mrobvious: thank you very much. i'm going to go do this now. brb
[07:43] <amorphous_> thanks fyrestrtr
[07:43] <bruenig> nlindblad, you probably can't do a dist-upgrade to it yet, You might be able to get the .iso and install
[07:43] <MrObvious> Chrisms: You're welcome.
[07:43] <MrObvious> Gonna go to eat dinner.
[07:43] <MrObvious> :D
[07:43] <eclapton> hello i have a bunch of frm files from a documentation... is there any .frm files viewer in Linux, or any soft to convert it to another readable format
[07:43] <SkyNeT> where do i go to enable the universe
[07:43] <bruenig> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[07:43] <nlindblad> bruenig: I thought there were repositories for it?
[07:43] <bruenig> Skynet, follow that
[07:44] <bruenig> nlindblad, go to #ubuntu+1
[07:44] <bruenig> they probably know more than i
[07:44] <nlindblad> bruenig: thanks
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> eclapton: what format is frm?
[07:44] <Chrisms> mrobvious: alright, how do i get the host/port numbers to use? I just did an install of vncserver on my ubuntu machine, is that enough?
[07:44] <defcon8> is there an ubuntu webinstall for a floppy?
[07:44] <someusernoob> skynet, you there?
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> !installation > defcon8
[07:44] <chell> defcon8, no
[07:44] <defcon8> crap :|
[07:44] <defcon8> haven't got any blank cd's
[07:45] <chell> then a) buy some or b) order ubuntu disks free of charge
[07:45] <bruenig> ubotu, tell bruenig about patience
[07:45] <someusernoob> skynet: did you get ubuntu installed?
[07:45] <defcon8> chell, they take 6 weeks to come?
[07:45] <kitche> defcon8: it took me about 2 months or so
[07:46] <defcon8> lol
[07:46] <bruenig> defcon8, it took me about 5 weeks
[07:46] <looktj> when you play music off firefox and loud...it crashed, lawl
[07:46] <chell> or c) ask one of your friends if he/she has blank cd's left
[07:46] <defcon8> did that aswell :D
[07:46] <chell> defcon8, they do take a long time
[07:46] <chell> I think they took about 1 1/2 months for me
[07:46] <chell> depends on where you live I guess
[07:47] <ChaosFan> what about just buying blank cds?
[07:47] <looktj> yea it does chell
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> defcon8: go pick up a copy of linux user, I think the dvd is a ubuntu dvd for the month of august.
[07:47] <looktj> easier to burn them yourself
[07:47] <defcon8> they have that in the UK?
[07:47] <chell> I think so
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> I'm sure they have blank cds in the uk.
[07:47] <bruenig> fyrestrtr, I don't know, don't assume
[07:48] <defcon8> lol
[07:48] <defcon8> I dunno if you can get singles heree
[07:48] <looktj> lawl
[07:48] <bruenig> I can't even confirm they have computers
[07:48] <chell> I can confirm that there are blank cd's available for purchase...
[07:48] <chell> in the UK
[07:48] <chell> at least in England ;-)
[07:48] <chell> dunno about Scotland or N Ireland
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> on high street?
[07:48] <bruenig> if we believe you, how do we know you are who you say you are
[07:48] <chell> or wales
[07:49] <SkyNeT> ok what do i do there ?
[07:49] <SkyNeT> where you sent me
[07:49] <Chrisms> mrobvious: what do i need on my ubuntu machine for my windows machine to remote desktop it?
[07:49] <SkyNeT> software ?
[07:49] <chell> anyways gotta get cookin'
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: vncserver
[07:49] <bruenig> SkyNet, you enabled the repositories that hold the software you want, xchat
[07:49] <eclapton> fyrestrtr: its adobe's frame maker format
[07:49] <rsl> I loaded the newest ATI proprietary drivers [from the net]  and Celestia is having fits. I read that the xorg ATI drivers work fine with it. However, I don't know how to change [back]  to the xorg drivers. Can anyone direct me to a good resource to walk me through the process?
[07:49] <Chrisms> fyestartr: okay. i have that. how do i run it, and get the host:port to use?
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: host is the ip address of your ubuntu machine, leave the port at the default port.
[07:50] <BoD_> How do i watch windows media files in ubuntu
[07:50] <Chrisms> heh.. how woudl i find the IP of my ubuntu machine?
[07:50] <Guitarhero11> you need win32 codecs boD
[07:50] <SkyNeT> and witch one would they be brueing ?
[07:50] <bruenig> BoD_, w32codecs
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: then on your windows machine, get the vnc client, and do the same thing. Set the host as the ubuntu pc's ip address, and the port as the default port.
[07:51] <Guitarhero11> try easy ubuntu to install them
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: ifconfig
[07:51] <Chrisms> thank you
[07:51] <bruenig> just find a deb of w32codecs and install it
[07:51] <BoD_> k thanks
[07:51] <Guitarhero11> or that, easy ubuntu has other codecs he might want as well
[07:51] <bruenig> http://debian-multimedia.org.nyud.net:8080/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb, this appears to be one
[07:52] <BoD_> How about hacktive x
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> no, no activex in linux.
[07:52] <Chrisms> fyrestrtr: it only shows 127.0.0.1 and the 255.0.0.0 mask
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: are you on a network?
[07:52] <rsl> Is xconfig the way to change drivers?
[07:53] <SkyNeT> lolz am so lost on this
[07:53] <Chrisms> the ubuntu machine is connected just to my windows machine right now. Do i need the ubuntu machien on the network?
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> rsl: change them from what to what?
[07:53] <rsl> from the fglrx ones [from ati.com]  to the xorg ones?
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: connected how?
[07:53] <SkyNeT> so i can't just go download xchat
[07:53] <Guitarhero11> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:53] <Chrisms> fyrestrt: my windows machine, as well as my ubuntu machine, have 2 ethernet ports.
[07:53] <BoD_> there is a work around wine/firefox/activx.api
[07:53] <Guitarhero11> for rsl
[07:53] <Tonren> Hay guys.  I crapped out and installed Flash with Automatix.  How do I upgrade to Flash 8?
[07:53] <bruenig> SkyNet, you download it from the repositories and then it installs it for you
[07:53] <Guitarhero11> you can pick your driver there
[07:53] <bruenig> it is much easier
[07:53] <Guitarhero11> flash 8 isnt available
[07:53] <gnomefreak> SkyNeT: xchat is installed by default
[07:54] <Guitarhero11> only flash 7
[07:54] <gnomefreak> SkyNeT: wait no its not anymore
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: you have two machines, with two ethernet ports. How are the connected, via hub?
[07:54] <bruenig> xchat is not installed by default at least not on mine
[07:54] <gnomefreak> SkyNeT: sudo apt-get isntall xchat
[07:54] <Chrisms> direct conenct.
[07:54] <SkyNeT> where is reposities ?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> bruenig: before dapper wit was
[07:54] <gnomefreak> SkyNeT: universe
[07:54] <looktj> firefox crashed 3 times on me now
[07:54] <bruenig> SkyNeT, one more time sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-systray
[07:54] <Guitarhero11> repositories are hosted on the ubuntu site
[07:54] <bruenig> type that in the terminal
[07:54] <rsl> Guitarhero11: should I backup my current config? And, if so, how?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> install*
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: find the ip address of the network card that is connected to the windows machine.
[07:54] <SkyNeT> i don;t underted
[07:54] <Guitarhero11> save a copy of your xorg.conf file
[07:54] <SkyNeT> where that is
[07:55] <Guitarhero11> a backup one
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: do ifconfig -a
[07:55] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: open a terminal
[07:55] <bruenig> SkyNet, go to Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[07:55] <Samuli^> gnomefreak, xchat-gnome is installed by default.
[07:55] <Bria1> Hola
[07:55] <Guitarhero11> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[07:55] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: no
[07:55] <bruenig> SkyNeT, after that copy and paste this "sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-systray" then type your password and hit enter, it should do the rest
[07:55] <Samuli^> gnomefreak, yes.
[07:55] <Guitarhero11> rsl sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[07:55] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: no xchat is as of dapper
[07:56] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: no its not
[07:56] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: they pulled it out around flight 4
[07:56] <rsl> Guitarhero11: Thanks.
[07:56] <Samuli^> gnomefreak, I'm pretty sure mine came with xchat-gnome. But really I dunno.
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> Samuli^: if I were you, I'd just believe him.
[07:56] <Chrisms> fyrestrtr: i dont see anyhting remotly resembling an IP
[07:56] <bruenig> Samuli^, it isn't
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: can you ping your windows machine?
[07:56] <Chrisms> fyrestrtr: one second, i have an idea
[07:56] <Samuli^> bruenig, okay. fine :)
[07:56] <brian98> Hi - What's the easiest way to config two monitors so you can drag windows from one to the other
[07:56] <Guitarhero11> my install did not come with xchat
[07:56] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: they removed it in flight 4 noone liked it
[07:56] <brian98> using ATA graphics card with repository driver
[07:57] <Samuli^> gnomefreak, ok, ok :)
[07:57] <Guitarhero11> brian98 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174&highlight=backup+xorg.conf
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> Guitarhero11: apt-get install it
[07:57] <ChaosFan> mine also didn't come with xchat... but i wanted it not to ;)
[07:57] <brian98> G cheers!
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> brian98: if you are using nvidia, its twinview. if you are using ati, the control panel has the option. if you are using something else, use xinerama
[07:57] <SkyNeT> Reading package lists... Done
[07:57] <SkyNeT> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:57] <SkyNeT> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[07:57] <SkyNeT> matthew@matthew-desktop:~$
[07:57] <brian98> I am using ATI
[07:57] <d00mik[u] > need some help,I have a problem with screen resulution, i tried to change it but it stays like it was before.
[07:57] <brian98> but the CP doesn't have the option I need
[07:57] <kantlivelong> hey all, how can i create a walled garden using dhcpd?
[07:57] <rsl> Guitarhero11: I forgot to mention that there's an onboard video controller [which I don't want to use]  and the ATI Radeon 9200 card [which I do] . It seems like the xorg-config thing saw the intel [onboard]  one. Is that a problem?
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> brian98: you might need to get the one from ati.com
[07:58] <Guitarhero11> have you installed fglrx rsl?
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> d00mik[u] : you need to change it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:58] <Chrisms> fyrestrtr: i did ipconfig in windows, to get the IP of the second port, and i ping'd that, and it replyed.
[07:58] <SkyNeT> i don;t think
[07:58] <SkyNeT> i did it right ?
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: what ip did you ping?
[07:59] <rsl> Guitarhero11: Yes. I have fglrx installed but want to see if Celestia runs better on the xorg ATI ones like everyone says.
[07:59] <MetaMorfoziS> but you need backup that first: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_original and then edit: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:59] <bruenig> SkyNeT, you need to add the universe repository, did you follow that link?
[07:59] <dkmx> guys, i have a problem during the installation of ubuntu: when the installation say, uncompressing linux... OK, booting the kernel, then the installation stops / hangs
[07:59] <Whtiger> Hello
[07:59] <Chrisms> 169.254.43.124
[07:59] <d00mik[u] > MetaMorfoziS, in what line ? I have few lines with "Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480""
[07:59] <glassbits> is anybody running ubuntu on k8m800 ( Via UniChrime Pro IGP ) graphics ?
[07:59] <SkyNeT> yes but i did ant no what to do there
[07:59] <SkyNeT> when i got in there
[07:59] <Guitarhero11> rsl: fglrx installed an ati program that told me which one i was using, if its using the wrong one you may have to manually edit your xorg.conf
[07:59] <Whtiger> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems <-- where do I type `server`?
[08:00] <MetaMorfoziS> all lines repeated except the bit number you using the 24bit
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: that looks like APA IP, something that windows assigns if it cannot find a dhcp server.
[08:00] <MetaMorfoziS> so you need to change that line.
[08:00] <Chrisms> Hmmm...
[08:00] <d00mik[u] > ok, thanks I will try
[08:00] <Chrisms> one second. let me go see if i can find a LAn cable long enough to get my ubuntu machine into the router
[08:00] <Whtiger> Chrisms: 169.* isn't a real IP.
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> Whtiger: get the alternate install cd, boot from it. Type 'server' at the boot: prompt
[08:00] <MetaMorfoziS> back up it!!!
[08:00] <Guitarhero11> rsl: it should use whicheevr your monitor is plugged into
[08:00] <Chrisms> whtiger: :( that saddens me.. haha
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> Whtiger: sure it is.
[08:00] <Chrisms> be back in a few min's
[08:00] <MetaMorfoziS> if you mess it up x isn't starts, so you need to restore it
[08:01] <Whtiger> I mean.. it doesn't help you or anything.
[08:01] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: you should have followed the instructions there
[08:01] <Whtiger> so, no way to do it from ubuntudesktop?
[08:01] <rsl> Guitarhero11: So the fact that it keeps talking about the Intel in the xorg setup thing is just misleading?
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> Whtiger: no.
[08:01] <EvilGuru> is it possible to disable user switching, so users have to log who-ever else is on before logging on as themselves
[08:01] <SkyNeT> ok i put a chek
[08:01] <d00mik[u] > MetaMorfoziS, how can I do that?
[08:01] <SkyNeT> mark on it hit add
[08:01] <Whtiger> Sooo... it isn't possible to install without the gui install thing?
[08:01] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm wroted:
[08:01] <MetaMorfoziS> but you need backup that first: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_original and then edit: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:01] <dkmx> guys, i have a problem during the installation of ubuntu: when the installation say, uncompressing linux... OK, booting the kernel, then the installation stops / hangs
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> Whtiger: download and burn the alternate install cd, and boot from it.
[08:02] <MetaMorfoziS> the "cp" works: cp this tothere
[08:02] <d00mik[u] > sorry, missed 8(
[08:02] <Whtiger> I would if I had a blank cd. thanks anyways.
[08:02] <MetaMorfoziS> so the restore is the sam ^^ but reverted
[08:02] <Whtiger> seeya
[08:02] <Guitarhero11> rsl: i think that's where you can rename your device to whatever it is, dpkg-reconfiguring basically makes a xorg.conf for you
[08:02] <MrObvious> Chrisms: Did you get your ? answered?
[08:02] <Chrisms> no
[08:02] <Chrisms> but im gettignh elp
[08:02] <MrObvious> ps aux | grep vnc
[08:02] <Guitarhero11> rsl: select fglrx and it should be fine
[08:02] <Chrisms> yall are so helpful:). i got that giant fuckign lan cable. le tme see if my ubuntu machine is online. one second
[08:02] <SkyNeT> still did it wrong
[08:02] <SkyNeT> what am i looking for
[08:02] <MrObvious> Chrisms: Do that and paste the line here. And don't cuss.
[08:03] <Guitarhero11> rsl: if it isnt, restore your xorg file with the copy you made and it will work
[08:03] <mathrick> zOMGWTFBBQ
[08:03] <EvilGuru> anyone know if it is possible?
[08:03] <mathrick> I can't read my reiser4 partitions on dapper
[08:03] <rsl> Guitarhero11: I selected ati, to test. Since that's the one I never used.
[08:03] <mathrick> why?
[08:03] <rsl> Right?
[08:03] <CyDrive> Hello is it possible to acces the c drive  of a computer through the live cd so i can fix my windows machine?
[08:03] <ChaosFan> reiser4-partitions aren't meant to be read but to be erased l(
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> CyDrive: fix how?
[08:03] <ChaosFan> ;)
[08:03] <Guitarhero11> rsl: ati isnt fglrx, its the ubuntu installed version, most people prefer fglrx because it runs faster.  its the proprietary driver ati released
[08:04] <SkyNeT> chaosfan
[08:04] <SkyNeT> can you help me
[08:04] <SkyNeT> i want xchast
[08:04] <SkyNeT> xchast
[08:04] <Chrisms> mr.obvious: for some reason, it's not going on my network, let me fix that first, brb
[08:04] <BoD_> The only way to fix a Bimbows box is to hit it with a hammer :P
[08:04] <SkyNeT> xchat
[08:04] <CyDrive> fix as in replace a corrupted file i pulled off another windows machine i own
[08:04] <mathrick> ChaosFan: um, perhaps, but that's what my home is on
[08:04] <Samuli^> driver ati doesn't have 3d-acceleration.
[08:04] <mathrick> so I'd definitely appreciate a way to access it
[08:04] <SkyNeT> they told me to go to solfware
[08:04] <Samuli^> only fglrx does.
[08:04] <egon_spengler> Samuli^, You are full of it
[08:04] <kitche> rsl: ati is the open source version of fglrx
[08:05] <Samuli^> egon_spengler, thank you?
[08:05] <Guitarhero11> rsl: you may want to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:05] <Samuli^> what the fuck is your problem?
[08:05] <kitche> egon_spengler: ati doesn't have 3d-acceleration none of the open source drivers do
[08:05] <egon_spengler> Samuli^, ati provides 3d hardware acceleration for any card up to and including the 9200
[08:05] <rsl> Guitarhero11: From what I've read my card [Radeon 9200]  is old enough to use aiglx via the ati drivers. That's another reason I wanted to try it. Besides the fact that Celestia hates the fglrx ones.
[08:05] <ChaosFan> SkyNeT: you were told how to get it about a dozen times by now
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> CyDrive: you only have limited access to ntfs. You can't write to it, for example.
[08:05] <nalioth> egon_spengler: please be civil
[08:05] <SkyNeT> i new
[08:05] <SkyNeT> sorry
[08:05] <Guitarhero11> rsl: trying it wont hurt anything,
[08:05] <ras> hai this is Rashed
[08:05] <Samuli^> egon_spengler, well "ati" driver doesn't.
[08:06] <kitche> egon_spengler: umm are you talking about ati open source or the actualy ATI drivers?
[08:06] <ras> i am new here and to Ubuntu
[08:06] <Guitarhero11> rsl: if something goes wrong do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select your old settings
[08:06] <CyDrive> Can i at least view so i can see if there is something else i can possible do to fix it?
[08:06] <Guitarhero11> ras: welcome
[08:06] <ras> i need some help with ubuntu
[08:06] <rsl> Guitarhero11: Awesome. That's what I wanted to hear. That I couldn't screw things up too bad. I'll do that.
[08:06] <adminx> I use AIGLX with intel chipset on my laptop.
[08:06] <egon_spengler> Samuli^, Very strange, since I use the "ati" which subsumes the "radeon" under it in Xorg and get 3D accel on my machine
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> CyDrive: well you can view it but you can't save or write to it. So, not sure how useful that would be.
[08:06] <rsl> Guitarhero11: Thanks for all your help.
[08:06] <Guitarhero11> rsl: np
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> CyDrive: anyway, to get to your files, from the live cd, system > administration > disks
[08:07] <CyDrive> Well ill take it one step at a time so lets start with view once i get that ill figure it out
[08:07] <ScribbleJ> rs1, would an ATI 9800 also be 'old enough' ?
[08:07] <rsl> kitche: Thanks as well.
[08:07] <Guitarhero11> ras: what do you need help with
[08:07] <Chrisms> alright, the ubuntu machine is onnetwork now, the router fainlyl accepted it.
[08:07] <ScribbleJ> From what you've just been reading?
[08:07] <rsl> ScribbleJ: I think it's 9250 and under.
[08:07] <Tonren> Guys, I have a total sudden frantic horrible emergency.
[08:07] <kitche> egon_spengler: well that's not true 3D acceleration, since your using mesalib not the driver itself
[08:07] <ScribbleJ> rsl, thanks, just curious.
[08:07] <Tonren> I plug my laptop into nice external speakers to listen to music
[08:07] <Samuli^> egon_spengler, so your xorg.conf names the driver radeon, not ati.
[08:07] <rsl> Alright. Here goes nothing. Heh.
[08:07] <adminx> Accelerated Indirect GLX (AIGLX).
[08:07] <Tonren> But I was playing a couple of movies last night, and all of a sudden, my laptop is outputting sound with the acoustic quality of a KAZOO.
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: and suddenly the latest paris hilton song started playing?!
[08:08] <ras> anyone to help me out????
[08:08] <Guitarhero11> ras: whats your problem
[08:08] <kitche> Samuli^: ati is a wrapper for the other open source drivers, it chooses the best driver
[08:08] <Tonren> Someone PLEASE help me.  This is horrible.  This is a tragedy.  I'm going to DIE without smooth sounding music.  I have, tops, three hours to live.
[08:08] <egon_spengler> kitche, Okay, then NO opensource driver provides the DRI/DRM since ALL the opensource hardware accel comes from libmesa
[08:08] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: If only that was it.
[08:08] <ras> i installed ubuntu in my laptop
[08:08] <mathrick> Tonren: your soundcard might be broken
[08:08] <SkyNeT> i put a mark by community maintianed (unisvere)
[08:08] <mathrick> then you're fucked
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: hrmm, that's a new one. Have you fiddled with the mixer?
[08:08] <SkyNeT> is that right or am i still looking in the wrong place
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> !language
[08:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:09] <mathrick> also, WHAT ABOUT MY REISER4?
[08:09] <Guitarhero11> ras: is everything working?
[08:09] <Tonren> mathrick: Well, I'll have to boot into Windows to make sure that isn't the case
[08:09] <mathrick> *cough*
[08:09] <ras> i am using 2wire pcmcia wireless card but can't get it working in ubuntu
[08:09] <Samuli^> kitche, ati's drivers from ati-website aren't open source, neither is fglrx.
[08:09] <kitche> egon_spengler: you are correct, but the drivers are seperate from mesalib
[08:09] <mathrick> Tonren: do
[08:09] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: Linux has a mixer?
[08:09] <egon_spengler> Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200] "
[08:09] <egon_spengler>         Driver          "ati"
[08:09] <egon_spengler>         BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[08:09] <Tonren> !paste
[08:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: yes? It has had for a while now.
[08:09] <Guitarhero11> ras: what chipset is your network card
[08:09] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: Swanky.  What's the command?
[08:09] <ras> i really dont knoe
[08:09] <ras> know
[08:09] <Guitarhero11> ok
[08:09] <ras> i really dont know
[08:09] <Samuli^> egon_spengler, and you say you have 3d-acceleration?
[08:09] <Chrisms> fyrestrtr: 192.168.1.255 is the IP that my ubuntu box is ssaying.
[08:09] <kitche> Samuli^: ati is an open source wrapper, fglrx is the only one that I know that comes from ATI
[08:09] <Guitarhero11> ras: you could try ndiswrapper
[08:10] <Guitarhero11> ras: it allows you to use windows drivers for network cards with linux
[08:10] <ras> can u tell me the steps?
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: that's your broadcast address, not your ip address.
[08:10] <Samuli^> kitche, I don't know what the drivers from ati are called, but if they are indeed fglrx then my point is proven.
[08:10] <egon_spengler> Samuli^, 7623 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1524.586 FPS
[08:10] <Guitarhero11> ras: there are howtos on the forums that explain it better than i can, but basically you just download ndiswrapper, then you have to get a specific file off of your driver cd for it
[08:10] <Chrisms> fyrestartr: i got it, thanks, it's remotedesktoping now:-D
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: your ip address is going to be between 192.168.1.0 and 192.168.1.254
[08:10] <ras> can u tell me the steps to use ndiswrapper?
[08:10] <Tonren> ras: You can look on wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:11] <Guitarhero11> ras: I think you can download ndiswrapper through synaptic
[08:11] <Chrisms> yeah, i got it working from windows -> ubuntu.. now to figure out the other way around:-D
[08:11] <ras> what is synaptic?
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: mixer and details are at the wiki, but you can get a rudimentary mixer by double clicking on the speaker icon.
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: for more fancy stuff, alsa has a gui mixer.
[08:11] <Guitarhero11> ras: synaptic is the add/remove program thing under applications
[08:12] <Guitarhero11> ras: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper for info on ndiswrapper
[08:12] <cogitatus> I have a question about ports; my package manager was working fine until a couple days ago, now I can't connect to any repositories at all. I get the error "could not connect to localhost:4001 (<ip>) - connect (111 Connection Refused)
[08:12] <ras> ok, one more thing
[08:12] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: Hey, what the crap is PCM?
[08:12] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: It was set all the way up and adding distortion.  It's working fine now.
[08:12] <cogitatus> i'm connecting through a college network which is pretty finicky...
[08:12] <cogitatus> any suggestions?
[08:12] <tam> cogitatus: proxies?
[08:12] <neutrinomass> Guitarhero11: Actually that's gnome-app-install. Synaptic is under System->Administration
[08:12] <Guitarhero11> ras: whats your other question
[08:13] <cogitatus> tam, as do i have one?
[08:13] <kitche> cogitatus: your college network is blocking it so I would try and see if a proxy will work
[08:13] <egon_spengler> Tonren, PCM==Pulse Code Modulation==WAY old way of saying .wav gain
[08:13] <ras> the windows driver i have for my pcmcia card in an exe file how can i use it with ndiswrapper?
[08:13] <tam> cogitatus: i don't know, do you?
[08:13] <Guitarhero11> neutrinomass: oh i always thought add/remove was just dumbed down synaptic
[08:13] <cogitatus> tam; nope, this is my first time here
[08:13] <cogitatus> tam; i totally just misread your line
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: disaster averted then, good to hear.
[08:13] <cogitatus> heh
[08:13] <Guitarhero11> ras: theres a way to extract the right file i think
[08:13] <cogitatus> tam, i don't think i do. i got a proxy utility but didn't set it up; i'm terrible with networking and ports, i tend to just leave it all alone
[08:14] <Guitarhero11> ras: at least thats what ive heard, you could also install it on a windows box and get it from the isntall file
[08:14] <Tonren> egon_spengler: Jesus.  Either the VLC guys or the Media Player Classic guys need a swift kick in the ass, because their application's volume applet changes PCM instead of Master Volume.
[08:14] <ras> how can i know which specific file to get?
[08:14] <Guitarhero11> ras: that page i told you to look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper should tell you the file extension you need
[08:14] <Guitarhero11> theres probably only one of that type of file in there
[08:15] <mathrick> Tonren: that's what they're supposed to be doing
[08:15] <mathrick> unless you meant it the other way around
[08:15] <Chrisms> fyrestrtr: is there a gui for vncserver in ubuntu? or just the command to start the server?
[08:15] <Guitarhero11> .inf and .sys files i think
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: are you trying to connect to Windows?
[08:15] <Guitarhero11> that page goes over it
[08:15] <cogitatus> kitche: any suggestion on what proxy to use?
[08:15] <gbrent> I messed my permissions up on my home directory. Now when I log in I get the message: could not creat gnome accelerators directory /home/russellb/.gnome2/accels Anyone help me out???
[08:15] <SkyNeT> ok somthing started
[08:15] <mathrick> Chrisms: System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop -> Share my desktop
[08:15] <SkyNeT> to download in there
[08:15] <Guitarhero11> rsl: how'd it go
[08:15] <rsl> Guitarhero11: What was that command again? I decided to write it down again.
[08:15] <ras> alright i am gonna browse through the page and try to fix the problem
[08:15] <Chrisms> Well, yes, but i'd also like to turn the vnc server off
[08:16] <ndee> hello there, whenever I visit youtube, I can view the movies but I don't have any sound. I can listen to normal MP3s without a problem. I installed the flash player thru automatix. Is there something I can do to fix that?
[08:16] <SkyNeT> now do i go to that think and lounch it some how
[08:16] <ras> thanks for the help
[08:16] <Guitarhero11> rsl: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:16] <rsl> Guitarhero11: Oh, I messed something up. I wasn't paying attention at one part and hit enter too soon.
[08:16] <Guitarhero11> ras: you're welcome
[08:16] <Tonren> mathrick: You're kidding... shouldn't they be changing Master Volume?
[08:16] <ras> and r u going to be here if i need help later?
[08:16] <gbrent> ndee: does youtube use flash?
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> gbrent: sudo chown -R russelb:russelb /home/russelb && sudo chmod -R 755 /home/russelb
[08:16] <Chrisms> mathrick: i can remote dekstop my ubunto machine from windows just fine.
[08:16] <mathrick> Tonren: of course not
[08:16] <ndee> gbrent: Yes.
[08:16] <Guitarhero11> ras: maybe, if not someone will help you im sure
[08:16] <mathrick> Tonren: master is master, PCM is per-app
[08:16] <Guitarhero11> ras: ndiswrapper is a common problem
[08:16] <Tonren> mathrick: Wow.  Could you explain the methodology behind that to me?  Because I am now lost.
[08:17] <rsl> Guitarhero11: Thanks. Trying it again.
[08:17] <Tonren> mathrick: Interesting... well then, one of those apps is changing the GLOBAL PCM.
[08:17] <ras> so i can use this general window to chat not any specific window right?
[08:17] <Guitarhero11> ras: right
[08:17] <] GD> is there any way I can install Tor simple through synaptic?
[08:17] <mathrick> Tonren: umm, there's nothing like "global pcm" afaik. That's usually called master volume :)
[08:17] <gbrent> ndee: there is a known issue with flash and sound. There is suposed to be a fix for it soon. Try sudo apt-get reinstall install flash
[08:17] <Ropechoborra> When is EDGY gonna be released ?????
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> Chrisms: to go the other way, Go to Internet > Terminal Services Client -- type in your login details for your Windows machine, and its IP address, then click on Connect.
[08:17] <ndee> gbrent: ok, I gonna try that :)
[08:18] <gbrent> ndee: I think the package is flash
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Ropechoborra,  when its done. :P
[08:18] <SkyNeT> Selecting previously deselected package xchat-systray.
[08:18] <SkyNeT> Unpacking xchat-systray (from .../xchat-systray_2.4.5-3ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[08:18] <SkyNeT> Setting up xchat-common (2.6.1-0ubuntu2) ...
[08:18] <SkyNeT> Setting up xchat (2.6.1-0ubuntu2) ...
[08:18] <SkyNeT> Setting up xchat-systray (2.4.5-3ubuntu1) ...
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> !edgy
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: October
[08:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:18] <SkyNeT> is this mean it done ?
[08:18] <Ropechoborra> Dr_Willis i cant wait x)
[08:18] <Tonren> mathrick: If I double click on the speaker icon, there's a slider for Master Volume and PCM.
[08:18] <gbrent> ndee: not sure of flash's package name
[08:18] <neutrinomass> Ropechoborra: End of october, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule . Please use #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> SkyNeT: yes.
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Ropechoborra,  i can.. :P
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[08:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:18] <neutrinomass> !pastebin > SkyNeT
[08:18] <ndee> gbrent: hm, that's not the name but I will find out :)
[08:18] <Chrisms> fyrestrtr: thanks for all teh help. i'm going to go figure this all out now, bye
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  when  click - i get about 40 sliders. :P
[08:18] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: You are a strange and perplexing person
[08:18] <SkyNeT> no how do i get in x chat ?
[08:19] <] GD> is there any way I can install Tor simple through synaptic?
[08:19] <mathrick> Tonren: every time I've seen "PCM" mentioned, it referred to the channel a single app had opened
[08:19] <Guitarhero11> SkyNeT: it should be in the applications menu
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  sound blaster audigy z2 - with a input bay. I got all sorts of ins and outs.. and things i got no clue what they are.
[08:19] <mathrick> as opposed to the global volume, called "master"
[08:19] <gbrent> fyrestrtr: I was setting permissions to 700 on my entire home directory. Should I set perms to 755?
[08:19] <cogitatus> sigh, i installed a proxy app with synaptic days ago and have no idea where it installed to.
[08:19] <] GD> is there any way I can install Tor simple through synaptic?
[08:19] <Guitarhero11> ] GD: sudo apt-get install nameofprogramhere
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> !info tor
[08:19] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> gbrent: no
[08:19] <SkyNeT> yep it there
[08:20] <Tonren> mathrick: Weird.  There's a "global" slider for it in my GNOME panel manager that changes it for EVERYTHING, including the boot sound
[08:20] <] GD> can't find package tor
[08:20] <Languid> what's the easiest way to add fat32 support to the kernel?
[08:20] <ras> one more thing
[08:20] <mathrick> Tonren: wicked
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Languid,  normally its compiled in, or as a module. thats as far as i know the ONLY way.
[08:20] <Guitarhero11> ] GD did you search for tor in synaptic not just add/remove program?
[08:20] <Languid> Dr_Willis, ok, thanks
[08:20] <ndee> gbrent: it works after I did sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin :)
[08:20] <Tonren> mathrick: Indeed.  One of my movie apps changed THAT instead of its own per-app PCM.  I thought Linux killed my sound card.  :\
[08:20] <] GD> umm, I just rand sudo apt-get install Tor
[08:20] <Guitarhero11> ] GD the package could be named something else, or you may have to enable extra repositories
[08:21] <Guitarhero11> ] GD try it lower case
[08:21] <cube> hi
[08:21] <] GD> just tried xD
[08:21] <ras> on the ndiswrapper site it say the instruction in that site doesnt work with live ubuntu cd versions
[08:21] <] GD> still didn't find it.
[08:21] <mathrick> Tonren: I see
[08:21] <Ackeubu__> hey i have a builtin card reader in my laptop. " 0a:09.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments Unknown device 803b" . this controller is supposed to be supported in kernel 2.6.17, so im running edgy. however as the output showed, its viewed as an unknow device. is there a way to solve this?
[08:21] <ras> i installed ubuntu from the live cd versions
[08:21] <ras> what dod i do know
[08:21] <ras> ?
[08:21] <mathrick> Tonren: now explain "media player classic" and "linux" going together :)
[08:21] <Guitarhero11> ras: i think it means it wont work while you are running the live cd
[08:21] <Tonren> mathrick: ... they shouldn't?
[08:21] <Guitarhero11> ras: ive used it and i installed from the live cd
[08:21] <ras> ok
[08:21] <ras> thanks
[08:22] <cube> one question: I know that ubuntu has newer packages than debian...but has it also more packages?
[08:22] <rsl> Guitarhero11: Woo and hoo! It worked!
[08:22] <Guitarhero11> rsl: sweet
[08:22] <mathrick> Tonren: MPC is a purely windows app, last time I looked
[08:22] <rsl> Yeah. I'm psyched!
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> cube,  i dont think it really has more..  and not too sure about them always being newer..
[08:22] <neutrinomass> cube: Not sure....
[08:22] <Tonren> mathrick: I guess I just meant Mplayer
[08:22] <cosmos`cu> my dc++ installation doesnt think i have GTK but i do.. any reccomendations?
[08:22] <Tonren> mathrick: Sorry, ex-Windows uers
[08:22] <Tonren> *user
[08:22] <rsl> Guitarhero11: I'm just excited to know I did it. I've tried it before and screwed it up.
[08:22] <gbrent> fyrestrtr saved my life!
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> cube,  its just more of ubuntu has a 6 mo release cycle vs how debian has a constant updates
[08:22] <gbrent> fyrestrtr: thank you
[08:22] <Guitarhero11> rsl: the linux satisfaction
[08:23] <Languid> there is a kernel module called 'fat' listed, yet when i cat /proc/filesystems, fat doesn't appear anywhere in the list
[08:23] <cube> Dr_Willis: but there has to be a bigger difference between them?
[08:23] <rsl> Guitarhero11: Yeah. Running Linux rocks [except for Flash] .
[08:23] <BoD_> 3Dlabs how?
[08:23] <mathrick> Languid: fat is not an actual FS
[08:23] <mathrick> just the common portion of msdos/fat16/vfat
[08:23] <CRoWsNeST> HELLO
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> cube,  different design philosphy? :P what sort of answer are you expecting?
[08:23] <Guitarhero11> rsl: theres an open source flash plugin in the works, lets just hope that catches up soon
[08:23] <CRoWsNeST> woops
[08:23] <Languid> mathrick, okay, what should it be called?  what should i use when i do a mount -t
[08:24] <cube> Dr_Willis: dunno...
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> Languid: try 'auto'
[08:24] <mathrick> Languid: vfat
[08:24] <mathrick> or auto
[08:24] <kitche> Guitarhero11: the open source flash is already out it's doesn't do very much right now
[08:24] <mathrick> if it's fat, it's gonna be loaded
[08:24] <rsl> Guitarhero11: I hope so. I really hate getting locked out of things because of there's no Flash 9 or even 8.
[08:24] <Guitarhero11> kitche: thats what I mean its not up to par yet
[08:24] <neutrinomass> cube: (this could be a better subject for ubuntu-offtopic) The release process differs, the philosophy differs and the goals differ. Of course there are many Ubuntu-specific patches
[08:24] <gbrent> ndee: that command did a reinstall of flash. It should auto grab the most up to date version of flash. If it still does not work then try and see if you have sound with google video. If you dont then something else may be going on
[08:24] <] GD> !tor
[08:24] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> cube,  heh. :)  its a balance btween being the latest versions on everything.. and a stable 'set' of known versions I guess.
[08:24] <mathrick> anyway, is it possible to get reiser4 running on a stock dapper?
[08:24] <ryedunn> After doing a fresh Install on a new HD Im getting an error partition does not exist Dropping to a shell.  This happens if I do the default partions or manually.  Any suggestions?
[08:24] <Guitarhero11> rsl: flash 9 is due out early next year for linucx
[08:24] <mathrick> I got "reiser4utils" but no access to my fs, annoying
[08:24] <CRoWsNeST> how do i make the font big
[08:24] <rsl> Guitarhero11: That's a heck of a long time away from now.
[08:24] <CRoWsNeST> on x chat ?
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> ryedunn,  grub could be confused by the drive numbering. You got sata and ide drive4s?
[08:25] <gbrent> Guitarhero11: I thought I saw some hacks for it now.. that may have been wine or something though
[08:25] <neutrinomass> ryedunn: Did you add/remove a drive ?
[08:25] <rsl> CRoWsNeST: Change the font size in terminal.
[08:25] <ryedunn> Dr_Willis:
[08:25] <ryedunn> The drive is a Seagate 320GB EIDE HD 7200/16MB/ATA-100
[08:25] <rsl> CRoWsNeST: Nevermind. Xchat.
[08:25] <CRoWsNeST> how do i do that in terminal ?
[08:25] <Guitarhero11> gbrent: that sounds cool
[08:25] <cube> I'm looking for a linux - for my laptop - which needs less resources, is fast and has a nice package system with new and a lot of packages. what would you say should i try?
[08:26] <Guitarhero11> crowsnest: settings:preferences
[08:26] <neutrinomass> cube: xubuntu
[08:26] <rsl> CRoWsNeST: In terminal it's under edit > profiles
[08:26] <Shinso-san> ou suis je?
[08:26] <Guitarhero11> cube: you could also install xubuntu then use fluxbox instead of xfce
[08:27] <ChaosFan> cube: if you're kinda experienced gentoo would be what you want as it can be heavily configured
[08:27] <neutrinomass> !offtopic
[08:27] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:27] <gbrent> someone say gbrent - my highlighting failed
[08:27] <ChaosFan> neutrinomass: you mean me?
[08:27] <mathrick> gbrent:
[08:27] <cube> gentoo is nice and i have gentoo on my desktop pc....but it needs too much ressources while compiling
[08:27] <gbrent> thank you, it works now :P
[08:27] <applet> can anyone help as to why installation hangs on loading sd_mod message ?
[08:28] <geehoon> when i try to install my nvidia drivers i add all the new packages and then in the terminal it says type "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"  this errors as: Error: your X configuration has been altered thsi script cannot proceed automatically.  i am under amd64 architecture if that matters using dapper.
[08:28] <neutrinomass> ChaosFan: A little. It was more of a pre-emptive offtopic considering the discussion that is likely to follow :P
[08:28] <cosmos`cu> my dc++ installation doesnt think i have GTK but i do.. any reccomendations?
[08:28] <CRoWsNeST> rsl,
[08:28] <ChaosFan> cube: that's true, but you could partially evade that by using distcc ;)
[08:28] <CRoWsNeST> i am in there profile
[08:28] <neutrinomass> applet: Are you sure the CD is ok ? With which cd are you trying to install ?
[08:28] <CRoWsNeST> then what ?
[08:29] <cosmos`cu> Testing whether or not i exist.  please confirm
[08:29] <d00mik[u] > It didnt worked.....it changed the resolution but, the desktop i stayed like it was before exxcpet one thing, i have to move with mouse
[08:29] <Guitarhero11> CRoWsNeST: Settings>Preferences>Text Box
[08:29] <applet> all runs perfectly fine till it hit this sd_mod issue
[08:29] <Flannel> cosmos`cu: you probably need to install the -dev packages, contains headers etc
[08:29] <ChaosFan> neutrinomass: what would be so very disturbing about 2 ppl discussing gentoo? nobody _has_ to participate after all
[08:29] <cube> ChaosFan: i could but i want a system which has a nice packetsystem but binaries...
[08:29] <cosmos`cu> thanks Flannel
[08:29] <rsl> CRoWsNeST: double click the Default profile. Then uncheck the option [in General]  that says something about default terminal font.
[08:29] <ChaosFan> cube: then i think xubuntu is the way to go ;)
[08:30] <rsl> CRoWsNeST: It should let you change it there.
[08:30] <Guitarhero11> im out, cya guys
[08:30] <rsl> CRoWsNeST: Yeah, it does.
[08:30] <ChaosFan> cube: and i'd heavily recommend a more light-weight windowmanager than xfce, e.g. fluxbox or wmii
[08:30] <rsl> Guitarhero11: Take it easy. have a great day!
[08:30] <cube> ChaosFan: there i have more packages than at debian? also non-GNU pkgs?
[08:31] <rsl> Okay. I'm out as well. Laters.
[08:31] <ChaosFan> cube: yes, there are
[08:31] <ChaosFan> cube: and more up to date, too ;)
[08:31] <rsl> CRoWsNeST: Did that work for you?
[08:31] <cube> sounds nice
[08:31] <ChaosFan> cube: ubuntu (and all of its flavours) are pretty nice ;)
[08:31] <neutrinomass> ChaosFan: It is disturbing because it spans the channel. This is a support channel, not a general Linux chatter channel. People in here are having problems with Ubuntu - they don't want to see gentoo-related discussions
[08:31] <cogitatus> So; to get a proxy, I need to access the repositories. To access the repositories, I need a proxy. Any suggestions?
[08:32] <neutrinomass> s/spans/spams
[08:32] <cogitatus> I have anon-proxy but am at a complete loss as to how to work it
[08:32] <cube> ChaosFan: i know...ubuntu was my first linux i have used instead of windows
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> cogitatus: you can just download the individual .deb files and install them (install consists of double clicking the deb)
[08:32] <BHSPitMonkey> urgh
[08:32] <Skazi> Q onda
[08:33] <ryedunn> If anyone is good with partitions, GRUB and has some time to help, please MSG me
[08:33] <cogitatus> fyrestrtr, can't find them; i wanted to get tor, but i'm not sure what files to get. there's only two small .gz files that i can find
[08:33] <dkmx> guys, i have a problem during the installation of ubuntu: when the installation say, uncompressing linux... OK, booting the kernel, then the installation stops / hangs
[08:33] <cogitatus> fyrestrtr, i'm also not sure what other packages i'd need
[08:33] <cube> when fluxubuntu is released? *gg
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> cogitatus: what are you trying to install?
[08:33] <BHSPitMonkey> why am I out of loop devices by default? I can't mount any backed-up filesystems
[08:33] <mathrick> dkmx: read help
[08:34] <cogitatus> fyrestrtr, tor
[08:34] <slid3r> hola
[08:34] <mathrick> dkmx: F1 and "special boot parameters"
[08:34] <dkmx> k
[08:34] <ChaosFan> cube: or do what i did, install ubuntu-server with almost nothing and afterwards install what you want and need
[08:34] <dkmx> will try
[08:34] <ChaosFan> cube: then the resulting OS won't be bloated with so many things you don't need
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> cogitatus: download the deb file for it from the web, its going to be .deb not .tar.gz or something.
[08:35] <slid3r> where is my access log, so I can see if my vnc viewer here is getting to my remote ubuntu server, Id like to check the ubuntu logs via ssh and see if my client is getting thru and what if any error might be being generated.
[08:35] <cube> ChaosFan: nice idea...
[08:35] <cogitatus> fyrestrtr, should i just google around till i find it?
[08:35] <CRoWsNeST> rsl,
[08:35] <CRoWsNeST> am looking but i don;t see the terminal font
[08:35] <facefaceface> hi, very dumb user here... grub lists a ton of old kernels, how do I remove them from the system (boot 99 % full)
[08:35] <Flannel> cube, ChaosFan, you'd be better off with the alternate ISO, and then the server install option.
[08:36] <Flannel> facefaceface: remove them via apt
[08:36] <facefaceface> Flannel, well ... I am not that dumb! ;) how do I list them?
[08:36] <Flannel> facefaceface: or, whtaever frontend you enjoy
[08:36] <cube> Flannel: what is the alternate iso? where is the difference to the normal?
[08:36] <ChaosFan> btw, what's the difference between the alternate cd and the others? ;)
[08:36] <facefaceface> They are not listed in the 'default' add / remove packages tool, nor in synaptec (the 'advanced' tool)
[08:36] <rsl> CRoWsNeST: It says "Use the system terminal font" and it is checked by default. Um, you're running Gnome right?
[08:37] <slid3r> the alternate one has a mohawk and wears black nail polish
[08:37] <ndee> after I installed ubuntu, I also installed kubuntu-desktop to try-out KDE. When I'm in gnome and I open a link, it always gets opened in konqueror instead of firefox. sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser <-- I tried that to change the "default browser" but it still uses konqueror. I also tried it in Settings->preferd applications and also selected firefox but it still uses konqueror. Any idea how I can fix that?
[08:37] <facefaceface> using apt, how do I list the installed kernels?
[08:37] <Flannel> facefaceface: yes they are.. might be in local/obsolete packages, I don't remember.  They're all "linux-image-somethingsomething" not anything having to do with kernel
[08:37] <CRoWsNeST> ok found it
[08:37] <slid3r> so no one knows where that access log is?
[08:37] <BHSPitMonkey> facefaceface, or you could edit /boot/grub/menu.lst yourself.
[08:37] <CRoWsNeST> i wsa in the wrong spot
[08:37] <CRoWsNeST> sorry new to this
[08:38] <CRoWsNeST> but i find it thank u
[08:38] <lillpelle> slid3r: haven't read your Q all the way up, but have you looked in /var/log/...?
[08:38] <Flannel> cube, ChaosFan: the normal (desktop) one is a liveCd, which installs the desktop, the alternate CD is the old textmode installer, it gives you more options (LVM, OEM, etc) and gives you the server (which is the base system, with no GUI) option.  The 'server' ISO has some specialized server-friendly kernel builds, and the option to preinstall LAMP
[08:39] <rsl> CRoWsNeST: You're welcome. I just wanted to make sure you found it before I logged off.
[08:39] <facefaceface> applications -> add / remove -> ... -> search 'linux-image' -> no results
[08:39] <Flannel> facefaceface: use synaptic, not add remove
[08:39] <slid3r> lillpelle: yes first place I looked
[08:39] <mathrick> facefaceface: considered changing your nick to ?
[08:39] <facefaceface> BHSPitLappy, no, my boot disk is full
[08:39] <slid3r> let me repeat
[08:39] <mathrick> :)
[08:39] <CRoWsNeST> no xchast
[08:39] <love>  russian were are you
[08:39] <slid3r> where is my access log, so I can see if my vnc viewer here is getting to my remote ubuntu server, Id like to check the ubuntu logs via ssh and see if my client is getting thru and what if any error might be being generated.
[08:39] <love>  russian were are you
[08:39] <secleinteer> does any1 know the name of the package that adds php to apache?
[08:39] <love>  russian were are you
[08:39] <facefaceface> mathrick, no, how bout you?
[08:39] <CRoWsNeST> it in sitting
[08:39] <CRoWsNeST> i found the font
[08:39] <ChaosFan> Flannel: then i should have used the alternate iso for my install... didn't find it back then, though
[08:39] <love>  russian were are you
[08:39] <secleinteer> does any1 know the name of the package that adds php to apache?
[08:39] <Flannel> !tell secleinteer about lamp
[08:40] <facefaceface> ty Flannel, got em :)
[08:40] <mathrick> facefaceface: my nick doesn't read facefaceface :P
[08:40] <facefaceface> but mine does !
[08:40] <ChaosFan> what a miracle ;)
[08:41] <BHSPitMonkey> why am I out of loop devices by default? I can't mount any backed-up filesystems
[08:41] <secleinteer> flannel: tyvm
[08:42] <love>  
[08:42] <BHSPitMonkey> fun with the character chart?
[08:43] <facefaceface> I hope this works... ;)
[08:43] <facefaceface> can I break ubuntu with synaptec?
[08:44] <BHSPitMonkey> lol depends on your definition of "break"
[08:44] <BHSPitMonkey> but the answer is probably yes
[08:44] <Dybber> Where can I find "latex"? And shouldnt it be installed as default?
[08:44] <facefaceface> hmmm.. define "oh god oh god oh god my frikin laptop is melting!!!"
[08:44] <BHSPitMonkey> Dybber, should everything be installed by default?
[08:45] <iLikeSpoons> Dybber, it's in TeX part of synaptic. There's a lot of TeX connected stuff to be installed :P
[08:45] <iLikeSpoons> and a bunch of choices
[08:45] <Dybber> BHSPitMonkey, no :)
[08:45] <facefaceface> see you on the other side... thanks for the help :)
[08:46] <Dybber> shouldnt "sudo apt-get install latex" work?
[08:47] <Dybber> i get and error saying that the there is no installation candidate
[08:47] <Exclamation> hi
[08:47] <JoseStefan> !info latex
[08:47] <ubotu> Package latex does not exist in any distro I know
[08:47] <NullVector> having problems getting openoffice.org installed. Can someone t ake a look at this and offer suggestions?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22349
[08:47] <shreevatsa> Dybber, you probably need universe/multiverse
[08:47] <Exclamation> i get this when i try to start banshee, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22350
[08:47] <shreevatsa> Dybber, and the package is probably tetex-bin or something
[08:47] <dkmx> mathrick : can't find a thing to solve my problem: 'guys, i have a problem during the installation of ubuntu: when the installation say, uncompressing linux... OK, booting the kernel, then the installation stops / hangs'
[08:48] <shreevatsa> Dybber, try "apt-cache search latex"
[08:48] <mathrick> dkmx: toldya, "special boot parameters" is what you want to read
[08:48] <mathrick> dkmx: there are a couple like noacpi that could help you
[08:48] <dkmx> but i can't find a parameters to apply
[08:49] <mathrick> err
[08:49] <mathrick> noapic
[08:49] <Flannel> dkmx: did you burn the CD yourself?  did you do it slow enough? (4x)  did you check the CD/MD5 of the iso?
[08:49] <BrokenSegue> is there a foundation backing linux (not Ubuntu) like Mozilla.org backs firefox?
[08:49] <dkmx> i burned it myself
[08:49] <brian_> Hi, I've read the faq and looked around all day... I need some wireless help :)
[08:49] <ChaosFan> BrokenSegue: no, there isn't
[08:49] <BrokenSegue> alright
[08:49] <JoseStefan> BrokenSegue, "Canonical"
[08:49] <JoseStefan> ah
[08:50] <JoseStefan> i miss-read that
[08:50] <defcon8> miss?
[08:50] <JoseStefan> mis
[08:50] <brian_> I can see the card and enable / disable it sudo up wlan0
[08:50] <BrokenSegue> Canonical backs ubuntu not Linux (the kernel)
[08:50] <brian_> but I can't get it to connect to the access point!
[08:50] <JoseStefan> yeah ChaosFan is right
[08:50] <recon0> Is anybody else having a problem playing .mp3 files with kubuntu?
[08:50] <recon0> oops, ubuntu?
[08:50] <brian_> I've disabled everything on the access point
[08:51] <recon0> specifically, in amaroK.
[08:51] <brian_> ie wep mac address stuff
[08:51] <brian_> is there a good wireless manager?>
[08:51] <mathrick> brian_: networkmanager perhaps
[08:51] <mathrick> dunno how well it works on ubuntu
[08:51] <NullVector> having problems getting openoffice.org installed. Can someone t ake a look at this and offer suggestions?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22349
[08:52] <Dybber_> Im sorry, I just had a power failure, if anyone answered my question would they please repeat the answer?
[08:53] <brian_> mathrick I'll give that a go...
[08:53] <brian_> thanks
[08:54] <Dybber_> im getting an error with "sudo apt-get install latex" - the package has no installationcandidate
[08:54] <Sivik> can someone help me with a broadcom issue here?
[08:54] <ikari--a> Hello And Bye
[08:54] <JoseStefan> Dybber_ the packagename is not latex
[08:54] <JoseStefan> !info latex
[08:54] <ubotu> Package latex does not exist in any distro I know
[08:54] <ScribbleJ> NullVector, you either need to add the keys for those two sites or remove them from your apt sources file...
[08:55] <Sivik> JoseStefan, do an apt-cache search for latex in console
[08:55] <ScribbleJ>  ikari--a. cut that shit out.
[08:55] <VoX> ScribbleJ: bit late there
[08:55] <iLikeSpoons> Dybber, can you start synaptic?
[08:55] <shreevatsa> Dybber, try "apt-cache search latex"
[08:55] <ScribbleJ> Ah
[08:55] <NullVector> ScribbleJ: I am assuming you are reffering to the update problem errors. what about the md5sum errors I get when installing Openoffice?
[08:55] <mathrick> ScribbleJ: * ikari--a has quit (K-lined)
[08:55] <ScribbleJ> I missed his k-line in all the activity.
[08:56] <iLikeSpoons> There are three (3!) TeX Authoring categories
[08:56] <Dybber_> iLikeSpoons, yes
[08:56] <iLikeSpoons> everything you need is there
[08:57] <minerale> Hi, I have just booted up ubuntu on an intel macbook pro, the screen is stuck at 1024x768, how do I  fix it so it sees the correct resolution ?
[08:57] <Naik0> Can someone send me a good sourcelist? I can't find anything i want :(
[08:57] <JoseStefan> ScribbleJ, what did i miss?
[08:57] <Flannel> !tell Naik0 about sources
[08:57] <shreevatsa> !easysource
[08:57] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:57] <Flannel> yeah, that one
[08:57] <ScribbleJ> * Received a malformed DCC request from ikari--a.
[08:57] <ScribbleJ> * Contents of packet: DCC SEND PENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENISPENIS
[08:57] <Naik0> Flannel:   thanks
[08:57] <Dybber_> what do I need? tetex?
[08:57] <hunger_> is there a way to make dpkg forget which packages were purged?
[08:58] <shreevatsa> DBO, it was from "ikari--a"
[08:58] <DBO> shreevatsa, reposting it triggers it too (as you can see)
[08:58] <Sivik> Naik0, what are you looking for, have you added a multiverse repo?
[08:58] <iLikeSpoons> haha... was that mass disconnect due to some netnanny type program?
[08:58] <Naik0> i want gkrellm and gkdesklets
[08:58] <mathrick> whut
[08:58] <shreevatsa> Dybber, yes, tetex. Also get amslatex and related packages
[08:59] <ChaosFan> Naik0: install them ;)
[08:59] <Sivik> ChaosFan, his problem is, he doesn't know which ones he wants, thats why i asked him what he is looking for
[08:59] <Dybber_> thanks shreevatsa
[09:00] <Flannel> !topic
[09:00] <Flannel> ack
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <Zooliegsm> hello
[09:00] <iLikeSpoons> O.o
[09:00] <Zooliegsm> i have serious problem
[09:01] <brian_> mathrick: I'm really sorry - I've just appd installed network-manager-gnome and it's installed..
[09:01] <JoseStefan> i dont get it
[09:01] <brian_> How do I access it?
[09:01] <mathrick> brian_: don't, I don't mind it at all :)
[09:01] <AfterDeath> DBO: there is noone in #ubuntu-ops fyi
[09:01] <janbanan> Does anyone know anything about "Ext2 Installable File System for Windows"? Is it only for Ext2, I'm using Ext3. It say it's only for x86 processors but do they mean it's for x86 operating systems?
[09:01] <DBO> I am here
[09:01] <mathrick> brian_: start nm-applet I think
[09:01] <Seveas> DBO, +R also suppresses the part messages
[09:01] <DBO> Seveas, handy
[09:02] <RichiH> klining
[09:02] <mathrick> janbanan: google "explore2fs and ext2 IFS"
[09:02] <Seveas> unfortunately, no unregistered users can talk right now
[09:02] <mathrick> * "explore2fs" and "ext2 IFS"
[09:02] <NullVector> glad I am registered
[09:02] <mathrick> DBO: what are all those bans about?
[09:02] <bbrazil> !nickserv
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <shreevatsa> Is this sort of thing usual these days? Long time since I've been here...
[09:02] <DBO> mathieu, they are all vulnerable to the exploit
[09:03] <Seveas> (If you cannot talk: consider registering /msg nickserv help register)
[09:03] <Seveas> hey
[09:03] <Sivik> hi Seveas
[09:03] <Seveas> are those morons registered or did this change?
[09:03] <DBO> what is he registering nicks now...
[09:03] <Seveas> +rR used to suppress part messages
[09:03] <AfterDeath> evidently it doesn't :/
[09:03] <DBO> it was already set but heh...
[09:03] <mathrick> DBO: aha, makes sense
[09:04] <NullVector> where can I find repository signature keys?
[09:04] <Seveas> DBO, apparently he's registering
[09:04] <AfterDeath> which means its probably best to simply -rR
[09:04] <Seveas> AfterDeath, yeah
[09:04] <bettsp> If I dist-upgrade to Edgy Eft, will I be able to start in console mode and roll those changes back if they go badly?
[09:04] <dkmx> mathrick: i tried noapic nolapic and pci=noacpi but it is still the same, nothing happens
[09:04] <AfterDeath> md!!!!
[09:04] <AfterDeath> good to see you here
[09:04] <Seveas> bettsp, no
[09:05] <Sivik> could an issue with apic cause errors with a wireless card?
[09:05] <Zooliegsm> 	i want to do a backup,i mounted a 20gb matrox winchester with fat32 fs,and i started to copy the thing i need.but after a few mp3 and other files the disk is marked as full,but i do nothing.i lost my 16,4gb.....whats the problem? what i need to do?if i mount it,ubuntu says immidietly that "not enough space on drive".
[09:05] <brian_> 
[09:05] <decoded> SPAM! SPAM! SPAM!
[09:05] <bettsp> Zooliegsm: Weird things like that often happen with corrupt filesystems
[09:06] <mathrick> dkmx: try acpi=off
[09:06] <mathrick> and "safe graphics"
[09:06] <bsmntbombdood> decoded: time you stop that
[09:06] <dkmx> k
[09:06] <JoseStefan> what a mess *sigh*
[09:06] <Zooliegsm> and what can i do?
[09:09] <pustota1> question: I want to set sshd server in my "desktop" installation. how do I go for it ?
[09:09] <_gpg_> salut
[09:09] <Seveas> pustota1, apt-get install openssh-server
[09:10] <_gpg_> j'ai une question un peu ... neuneu ... quelqu'un connait des jeux d'enfants 3-4 ans sur ubuntu :)
[09:10] <Seveas> !fr
[09:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:10] <pustota1> really ? that simple, ok. many thanks. in general, what is the grade of overlapping with the "usual" Debian installation procedure ?
[09:10] <RobHu> Hello. When the sound device is opened on my PC I get a high pitched whistle as well as the actual sound that should be played. Can someone help me please? I am running the latest normal Ubuntu release and my sound hardware is reported by lspci to be 000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[09:10] <_gpg_> crap
[09:11] <_gpg_> sry
[09:11] <_gpg_> .join ubuntu-fr
[09:11] <DBO>  /cs u ScribbleJ
[09:11] <Seveas> pussfeller, mostly the same
[09:11] <DBO> erm
[09:11] <Seveas> DBO, ;)
[09:11] <Seveas> RobHu, turn PCM up and MASTER down
[09:12] <viator> ubuntu should have rockbox firmwares in the repos
[09:12] <viator> its gpled
[09:13] <viator> and makes it so ipods have ogg support
[09:13] <RobHu> Seveas: This happens when say I have clicked on a mp3 and Totem loads to play it but it cant even start playing the mp3
[09:13] <powerbook`> How many partitions should I make for dual booting mac os x and ubuntu?
[09:13] <dkmx> mathrick: It works, Thank you very much !
[09:13] <Arin> /nick
[09:13] <Arin> oops
[09:13] <Arin> ^^
[09:13] <Valex0xff> is anyone here well versed in alsa?
[09:13] <powerbook`> How many partitions should I make for dual booting mac os x and ubuntu?
[09:13] <Valex0xff> I need a bit of help and is curious if anyone could do it
[09:14] <Seveas> !anyone
[09:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:14] <viator> you need to resize the partion that osx is in
[09:14] <Descentio1> is there a defualt root password for when i type in "su"
[09:14] <ChaosFan> Descentio1: no
[09:14] <Sivik> why isn't my wireless card assigning an ip when i am getting a valid ap on my iwconfig
[09:14] <Seveas> !root > Descentio1
[09:14] <viator> then make a large partion for ubuntu and a small one for swap
[09:14] <powerbook`> viator how big should each be?
[09:14] <Sivik> Descentio1, you should have entered one when you were installing, it might be the same password you used when you configured a user
[09:15] <Descentio1> alright
[09:15] <RobHu> Seveas: Is there a 'test sound' or something I can play that comes with ubuntu?
[09:15] <viator> depends on your harddrive
[09:15] <mathrick> dkmx: velbekommen
[09:15] <foo> Has anyone ever set up ultravnc client to connect to vncviewer -listen on linux?
[09:15] <viator> and how much you want to assigne
[09:15] <dkmx> :)
[09:15] <ChaosFan> Descentio1: you could use sudo su to use your user's pw and then use passwd to set your root-pw
[09:15] <powerbook`> viator: i thouht it was moer, but it says its 55.9 GB
[09:15] <Valex0xff> is there a way to make it so that master voulme is tied into pcm because turning up and down my master volume does nothing right now
[09:15] <powerbook`> is 20 GB enough for ubuntu? then how many is needed for swap?
[09:16] <powerbook`> 768ish ram
[09:16] <Sivik> yes
[09:16] <viator> like i have an 80 gb hd windows is 20 59  for ubunutu and 1 for swap
[09:16] <Valex0xff> PCM is the only thing that effects sound right now
[09:16] <mathrick> powerbook`: yes, it's more than enough
[09:16] <Sivik> powerbook`, add twice the amount of swap as you have ram
[09:16] <Descentio1> thank you
[09:16] <powerbook`> so
[09:16] <Sivik> powerbook`, and you only need like 5 gb for a full ubuntu install
[09:16] <viator> 512 mb for swap is fine
[09:16] <viator> though
[09:16] <powerbook`> 30 gb mac, 20 gb ubuntu, 1.5 gb swap?
[09:16] <ChaosFan> yes, 512mb swap should suffice
[09:16] <ryedunn> why does GRUB say my root partition is in /dev/hda5 when it looks like its in /media/hda5  (either way I cant get it to boot)
[09:16] <powerbook`> or 40 gb mac, 10 ubuntu 1.5 swap?
[09:16] <powerbook`> oh
[09:16] <powerbook`> 512?
[09:17] <pere> How do I get access to network shares from programs like XFburn?
[09:17] <viator> swap is like virtual ram/memory kinda
[09:17] <Sivik> powerbook`, double the amount of ram you have for swap
[09:17] <Sivik> powerbook`, is a good rule of thumb
[09:17] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: /media/hda5 is a mount point, /dev/hda5 is a device file
[09:17] <powerbook`> so 1.5 gb then
[09:17] <Sivik> powerbook`, yes, thats good
[09:17] <powerbook`> so 30 gb mac, 20 gb ubuntu 1.5 swap
[09:17] <powerbook`> got it
[09:17] <powerbook`> what format?
[09:17] <ChaosFan> powerbook`: you mean filesystem?
[09:17] <Sivik> powerbook`, ext2, ext3 or reinfs
[09:17] <viator> macs has to stay the same
[09:17] <viator> hfs+
[09:18] <powerbook`> uhh im partitioning in the mac disk utility
[09:18] <viator> ubuntu is ext3
[09:18] <powerbook`> so mac os extended (journaled) mac os extended unix file system or free space?
[09:18] <viator> swap is swap
[09:18] <NullVector> can soemone help me with installing Openoffice.org, I am getting md5sum errors. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22348
[09:18] <ryedunn> Chaos okay.. any idea why it might be hanging and erroring out with a ""ALERT! /dev/hda5 does not exits. Dropping to a shell!""
[09:18] <Sivik> yeah
[09:18] <powerbook`> im new to linux, im confused
[09:18] <ChaosFan> powerbook`: free space
[09:18] <powerbook`> okay
[09:18] <Sivik> NullVector, are you downloading via apt-get or the website?
[09:18] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: maybe /dev/hda5 does not exist. how many partitions do you have?
[09:18] <powerbook`> so 30 gb for mac o extended the rest free space?
[09:18] <NullVector> Sivik: apt-get
[09:18] <ryedunn> 6 + swap
[09:18] <viator> somtimes ya have to turn off journalizing to resize hfs right?
[09:19] <NullVector> Sivik: I also attempted to install through teh add/remove programs
[09:19] <ChaosFan> powerbook`: yes. partition the free space using the partitioner provided by the ubuntu installer
[09:19] <viator> unless osx inst installed
[09:19] <viator> yet
[09:19] <Sivik> NullVector, do you have the us.archive.com/ubuntu?  if so, get rid of the us in front of it, the stuff from those servers are fubared
[09:19] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: and your root partition is the last one??
[09:19] <ryedunn> no its second..
[09:19] <NullVector> Sivik: looks liek the cd is possibly corrupt, even though I recently did a fresh install off it
[09:20] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: then try to boot /dev/hda2
[09:20] <Sivik> NullVector, you know you can change where it downloads the packages from by editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <NullVector> Sivik: will try
[09:20] <ryedunn> sure, 1 min
[09:20] <Sivik> NullVector, comment out the cd, thats what the repos are for
[09:20] <viator> theres a howto
[09:20] <viator> in the forums
[09:21] <Sivik> NullVector, you can also search repo at wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:22] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[09:22] <marcin_ant> could you tell me how to change user's primary group from CLI?
[09:22] <ryedunn> chaos can I msg you with the volume info?  (dont think the channel would appreciate to see it here)
[09:22] <iLikeSpoons> ryedunn, use pastebin
[09:22] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: use a pastebin ;0
[09:22] <powerbook`> Ok so, 31 GB of Mac, and 24.77 GB of Free space, and when I get the ubuntu cds I ordered, it will partition it?
[09:23] <ChaosFan> like http://nopaste.info or something like that
[09:23] <pere> I have mounted a smb-network share, through "places-connect to server". It is availiable from my desktop, and from some Gnome programs. I cant find it in programs like XFBurn. Anybody know where it can be found?
[09:23] <ChaosFan> powerbook`: it will give you the opportunity to partition it, yes ;)
[09:23] <Sivik> powerbook`, yes, and why are you ordering them, instead of just downloading them?
[09:23] <iLikeSpoons> ryedunn - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:23] <Sivik> powerbook`, do you only have dial-up or something?
[09:23] <NullVector> Sivik: thanks at least the actual install is starting now. lets hope it finishes
[09:23] <ScribbleJ> pere /media ?
[09:24] <Sivik> NullVector: are you installing from the cd or just adding the office stuff?
[09:24] <compengi> powerbook` simply download ubuntu, it would take you around 6 weeks to be shipped :D
[09:24] <Sivik> compengi, thats what i just suggested
[09:24] <pere> ScribbleJ. No, not in /media or /mnt
[09:24] <powerbook`> compengi I already ordered it a few days ago, I want to order it :s not download
[09:24] <powerbook`> ill be fine waiting
[09:24] <Sivik> powerbook`, very well
[09:24] <NullVector> Sivik: I commented out the cd in the sources list and I removed the us. in the us.archive/ubuntu
[09:24] <RobHu> Hello. When the sound device is opened on my PC I get a high pitched whistle as well as the actual sound that should be played. If I change any of the volume sliders the sound permanently dies. Can someone help me please? I am running the latest normal Ubuntu release and my sound hardware is reported by lspci to be 000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[09:25] <Sivik> NullVector: also, uncomment all the other repos there and take out all the us's
[09:25] <powerbook`> is 25.77 GB fine for swap partition AND ubuntu?
[09:25] <Flannel> powerbook`: definately
[09:25] <Sivik> NullVector, that allows for adding of more stuff
[09:25] <ChaosFan> powerbook`: yes
[09:25] <Sivik> powerbook`, yes
[09:25] <powerbook`> Okay
[09:25] <blue-frog> marcin_ant: man usermod
[09:25] <compengi> powerbook` your choice
[09:25] <ryedunn> Chaosfan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22353
[09:25] <ChaosFan> powerbook`: but trust me that 512MB of swap will suffice. i hardly use more than 800MB of ram, and that's when firefox uses about 300megs ;)
[09:25] <NullVector> Sivik, I removed all the US's, but didn't comment out anything but the cd's what else should I be commenting out?
[09:26] <rev11> what does it mean when installing ubuntu amd64 and it says something like "cannot start X server" during install and then sends me to command line
[09:26] <Awesome-o2000> you need 200gb of swap, at least :))
[09:26] <Sivik> NullVector, no, uncomment the rest of those other repos and remove the #
[09:26] <Sivik> Awesome-o2000, do you mean 200MB?
[09:26] <pere> If I use the "file Browser", it shows to the left: Desktop, File System, Floppy Drive and the Network Drive. If I try browsing from XFBurn, it just shows FileSystem
[09:26] <Awesome-o2000> I was being a funny guy
[09:26] <Sivik> rev11, thats cause the xorg.conf isn't configured right yet
[09:26] <ChaosFan> oh
[09:27] <NullVector> Sivik: oh, gotcha, I already did that. and thanks again, OpenOffice is installed now
[09:27] <Sivik> NullVector, yw
[09:27] <rev11> how would i do that?
[09:27] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: i think you need to boot /dev/hda1 and add real_root=/dev/hda2 as an option to your kernel
[09:27] <Sivik> rev11, uh, you go into /etc/X11 and figure out what kind of hardware you use and set the drivers up correctly
[09:27] <rev11> ok great, ill tthat
[09:27] <rev11> thanks
[09:27] <Sivik> rev11, try making the driver for the monitor into vesa and it should come up, and then you can fix it from there
[09:27] <pere> Anybody know, if you mount a network drive through the gnome menues: Where is it really mounted?
[09:28] <ryedunn> k
[09:28] <Sivik> rev11, does that make sense
[09:28] <rev11> yea, ill try that
[09:28] <rev11> thanks
[09:28] <Sivik> rev11, yw
[09:29] <djm62> What's the Right Way to enable dma on my CD/DVD writer? it wasn't on by default apparently...
[09:29] <ryedunn> Chaosfan: I just noticed that in my /dev directory I dont have anything hda but I do have hde(1, 5, 6,7 etc)
[09:29] <Sivik> ryedunn, that shouldn't matter all that much
[09:29] <Sivik> ryedunn, are you in kde?
[09:29] <ryedunn> ok just curious since I was getting a cannot find /dev/hda5 error
[09:29] <ryedunn> I havnet got past boot yet
[09:30] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: than try all with hde instead of hda
[09:30] <ChaosFan> oh sec
[09:30] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: you are using grub?
[09:30] <raziekiel> I've just started playing with linux, and while installing my nvidia drivers, I did something wrong, and now I can't start the gui
[09:30] <ryedunn> yes
[09:31] <ChaosFan> confusing lilo stuff in my head
[09:31] <pradeep> how do i remove desktop shortcuts for mounted drives?
[09:31] <JamieBE> Hi there guys. I have a 300GB external FAT32 USB drive - using Ubuntu, how can I change the name of the drive, it is currently "NEW VOLUME"
[09:31] <Sivik> JamieBE: you have to go into the properties of the drive, or use fdisk /dev/sda
[09:31] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: any other hard drives in your system?
[09:32] <JamieBE> Sivik: How to I enter the properties of the drive?
[09:32] <raziekiel> Is there any way to repair my gui? Or should I just reinstall
[09:32] <foo> Has anyone ever set up ultravnc client to connect to vncviewer -listen on linux?
[09:32] <Sivik> JamieBE, just use fdisk /dev/sda and type m for the help menu and you should be able to press something in order to change the name of the volume
[09:32] <CheckItOut> hey people, i run ubuntu on VMware workstation, and i don't get the newest VMware tools, plz help in private :)
[09:32] <ryedunn> whoa.. closer!!! I actually got some of the boot to start but it stopped with "Cant open /scripts//dev/hde1"  Kernel panic
[09:33] <Ackeubu__> hey you guys have you had any experience with gentoo? whats the difference? when would one want to use the one and when the other? is it possible to run gentoo with apt-get or ubuntu with rsync?
[09:33] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: that for sure sounds curious
[09:33] <secleinteer> hey, if i installed apache on a desktop, where would the root dir for the website be?
[09:33] <RobHu> Is there a way to upgrade alsa on my system to something newer than the standard one in apt for the stable version of Debian? Apparently my sound card is better supported on newer versions that 1.0.10-4
[09:33] <Flannel> secleinteer: /var/www - unless youve changed it
[09:34] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: what exactly is written in your menu.lst for the item you want to boot?
[09:34] <CheckItOut> hey people, i run ubuntu on VMware workstation, and i don't get the newest VMware tools, plz help in private :)
[09:34] <Sivik> RobHu, go download the drivers from the alsa website and install it manually
[09:34] <dragonfyre13> I have an issue with firefox in Ubuntu 6.06.
[09:34] <RobHu> Sivik: Thankyou
[09:34] <secleinteer> flannel: that's where it is. thx
[09:34] <Sivik> RobHu, yw
[09:34] <cogitatus> ugh, just spent 1.5 hours on this problem and got nowhere
[09:34] <Sivik> dragonfyre13, what kind of issues
[09:34] <Sivik> cogitatus, what is your problem?
[09:34] <Ackeubu__> !gentoo
[09:34] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[09:34] <dragonfyre13> It shows an error code -5961. An issue establishing an encrypted connection
[09:34] <cogitatus> sivik; whenever i try to connect to any repositories I get a 111 connection refused error
[09:35] <cogitatus> it used to work fine
[09:35] <cogitatus> someone suggested i use a proxy (since i'm on a college network)
[09:35] <Sivik> cogitatus, are you using the us.archive.com/ubuntu?
[09:35] <cogitatus> so i got one working
[09:35] <ryedunn> Chaos where is that file?
[09:35] <rm_you|wtf> Anyone know how to kill REALLY stubborn processes, when even kill -9 doesn't work?
[09:35] <Sivik> cogitatus, if so, try removing the us from each of the repos
[09:35] <TaoWine2> !ndiswrapper
[09:35] <cogitatus> sivik, i'm using whatever synaptic came with by default
[09:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:35] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:35] <Sivik> cogitatus, get rid of the us on the archives, those repos are down all the time
[09:35] <cogitatus> sivik; the repos i used to connect to worked fine though
[09:35] <ChaosFan> runge: it also shows ub when you hit "e" while hilighting the entry you want to boot in grub's boot menu
[09:35] <Sivik> cogitatus, just change them all to archive.com/ubuntu without the us before them, i had to do that to get it to work all the time
[09:36] <CheckItOut> hey people, i run ubuntu on VMware workstation, and i don't get the newest VMware tools, it gives me a can't copy error. plz help
[09:36] <Sivik> cogitatus, it doesn't matter if the repos are down
[09:36] <dave> hola
[09:36] <ChaosFan> runge: sorry, mistabbed ;)
[09:36] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: it also shows ub when you hit "e" while hilighting the entry you want to boot in grub's boot menu
[09:36] <Sivik> cogitatus, normally when a connection is refused, is because the server are down
[09:36] <dragonfyre13> Sivik: It shows an error code -5961. An issue establishing an encrypted connection
[09:36] <JamieBE> Sivik: sorry, which switch would I use to edit the "NEW VOLUME" part?
[09:36] <dave> does anyone know anything about irda  for a dell insiron 600m ?
[09:36] <cogitatus> sivik; the default repos are just labelled Ubuntu 6.06 foobar
[09:36] <Sivik> dragonfyre13, what is the url, i will look into it
[09:36] <janbanan> Is it possible to have a personal picture on gaim?
[09:36] <cogitatus> I can't see any URLs
[09:36] <bettsp> To upgrade to Edgy Eft beta, I just replace 'dapper' with 'edgy' in my sources.list ?
[09:37] <pustota1> dudez, how can I start x font server and how can I add additional cyrillic fonts to the system ? normal debian way or should something more be done?
[09:37] <longwave> cogitatus: look in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:37] <Sivik> cogitatus, go into the /etc/apt and vi the sources.list
[09:37] <Flannel> cogitatus: you need to look in the details
[09:37] <ChaosFan> bettsp: and afterwards you do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:37] <Sivik> dragonfyre13, what is the url?
[09:37] <derekS> hi, i am looking to check my jabber implementation. can someone that has jabber that doesn't use google talk (or google hosted im me?
 cogitatus, go into the /etc/apt and vi the sources.list
 cogitatus: you need to look in the details
[09:37] <pere> what is the best CDBurner program for Gnome?
[09:37] <longwave> bettsp: yes, then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:37] <cogitatus> oops, disregard that
[09:37] <dragonfyre13> Sivik: paypal.
[09:37] <Sivik> pere: use k3b
[09:37] <cogitatus> trying to copy and paste to myself
[09:37] <Sivik> dragonfyre13, are you trying to login?
[09:37] <dragonfyre13> Sivik: among others
[09:37] <longwave> bettsp: make a backup of anything important first though, because edgy upgrades do not always complete successfully
[09:37] <absolut> hey, how do i get mp3 support for ubuntu?
[09:37] <ChaosFan> derekS: your jabber-account-name?
[09:37] <Sivik> dragonfyre13, the actual website or when you log in?
[09:38] <longwave> !mp3
[09:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:38] <Flannel> cogitatus: heh, do this: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:38] <ryedunn> Chaos ok I cant get into the boot dir but if I hit esc I can tell you whats in there..  the first line is root(hd0,0) then kernel  /vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-server root=dev/hda5 ro quiet splash
[09:38] <Sivik> Flannel, that works to and sudo vi works too
[09:38] <bettsp> longwave: Yep, I already backed up my entire system
[09:38] <dragonfyre13> Sivik: even before I login. Pretty much it happens on all https connections. Even when I visit paypal.com it happens
[09:38] <Flannel> Sivik: why not suggest nano to new users?  instead of vi?
[09:38] <Sivik> dragonfyre13, what version of ff
[09:38] <cogitatus> flannel, i got it up
[09:38] <cogitatus> sources.list, that is
[09:38] <cogitatus> just used sudo though
[09:38] <dragonfyre13> Sivik: 1.5
[09:38] <Sivik> cogitatus, now get rid of the us in the archives
[09:39] <dragonfyre13> Sivik: standard from the repos
[09:39] <derekS> ChaosFan: you have a pm
[09:39] <cogitatus> sivik, done
[09:39] <cogitatus> i'll try synaptic agan
[09:39] <cogitatus> again*
[09:39] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: try real_root=/dev/hde5 instead of root=dev/hda5
[09:39] <Sivik> dragonfyre13, thats an older version, have you upgraded your system laty
[09:39] <JamieBE> Does anyone know how to change a hard disk's name using fdisk or any other tool?
[09:39] <jdmpike> any ruby developers in here?
[09:39] <Sivik> cogitatus, screww synaptic, use the command line
[09:39] <Sivik> JamieBE, i'm getting there
[09:39] <dragonfyre13> Sivik: I'll do an apt-get upgrade
[09:39] <dave> irda anyone?
[09:40] <JamieBE> Sivik: sorry.
[09:40] <jdmpike> I am trying to configure eclipse to work with ruby on rails and having a hard time figuring out where debian puts everything...
[09:40] <Sivik> JamieBE, its t once you get into the sudo fdisk /dev/hd
[09:40] <viator> try # debian
[09:40] <cogitatus> sivik, same wrror.
[09:40] <Sivik> cogitatus, can you ping any of the urls?
[09:40] <JamieBE> Sivik: And then...
[09:40] <cogitatus> (tested with adon for no reason)
[09:40] <cogitatus> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/adonthell/adonthell_0.3.4.cvs.20050813-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[09:40] <cogitatus>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[09:40] <Sivik> JamieBE, t
[09:41] <ryedunn> Chaos I think we are very close.. I saw it starting up networking, etc.. then they arrors started with No such file or direcotry while trying to open /dev/hda8  (How do I change all this to hde8?)
[09:41] <JamieBE> It's asking for a Hex code???
[09:41] <cogitatus> sivik, just ping <url> in terminal?
[09:41] <Sivik> yes, for the format of the partition type
[09:41] <Sivik> cogitatus, yes
[09:41] <jerryb> All: anyone know why installing cpufreqd and/or cpudyn wants to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[09:41] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: i think your /etc/fstab is wrong
[09:42] <cogitatus> ping: unknown host http://archive.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <Sivik> don't add the http:// before it, just type archive.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <|thunder> cogitatus, ping ubuntu.com
[09:42] <Knio1> no http://
[09:42] <dragonfyre13> Sivik: nope, already the newest version in the repos.
[09:42] <ryedunn> Chaos how to I edit that?
[09:42] <cogitatus> rgr.
[09:42] <Sivik> dragonfyre13, hum, thats weird
[09:42] <JamieBE> Why can't I just right click and select "Rename" from within the Computer view?
[09:42] <absolut> How do i add restricted multiverse and universe to Synaptic Package Manager?
[09:42] <ChaosFan> ryedunn: try booting a livecd and mounting your root device and so on, then edit /etc/fstab there
[09:42] <Sivik> JamieBE, that might work as well, never done it that way
[09:42] <cogitatus> sivik, it works
[09:42] <ryedunn> ok, thanks
[09:43] <Sivik> cogitatus, when you pinged archive.ubunut.com/ubuntu?
[09:43] <JamieBE> Sivik: Annoyingly enough it doesn't?
[09:43] <cogitatus> augh
[09:43] <viator> cause ya dont have permissions
[09:43] <cogitatus> htf do you stop it pinging...
[09:43] <nahoj> how come shipit did not approve my request for cd's?
[09:43] <ChaosFan> cogitatus: hit <ctrl>-c
[09:43] <Sivik> JamieBE, do what?
[09:43] <cogitatus> chaosfan, thanks.
[09:43] <Sivik> cogitatus, now do a sudo apt-get update
[09:43] <ChaosFan> cogitatus: np ;)
[09:43] <cogitatus> sivik, i pinged ubuntu.com.
[09:44] <JamieBE> That doesn't work Sivik? - Something so simple, why doesn't Ubuntu handle it?
[09:44] <Sivik> JamieBE, what doesn't work?
[09:44] <JamieBE> Changing the Volume name
[09:44] <cogitatus> sivik, still all 111 connection refused errors
[09:44] <davey_> how can i make ubuntu 64 more stable, becasue when i use theme source driver for my wirless card for amd64 it crashes my syst
[09:44] <dragonfyre13> Sivik: I know it has something to do with the images, since it's only on paypal objects, and it doesn't happen when I try to format for printing (Doesn't load images.
[09:44] <AMDXP> home sweet home
[09:44] <Sivik> cogitatus, then i have no clue
[09:44] <cogitatus> could i be getting blocked by the campus network?
[09:44] <viator> do you have permisdsion to change it
[09:45] <viator> is it owned by you
[09:45] <Sivik> dragonfyre13, thats probably an error on their end and not yours
[09:45] <viator> if it is owned by you you can change the name
[09:45] <phiber_optic> does anybody know if there is an upgrade in firefox
[09:45] <martii> dpkg-query  -W -f='${Package}\t${Size}\n'
[09:46] <martii> why it does not show sie
[09:46] <martii> size
[09:46] <martii> size is empty
[09:46] <Sivik> phiber_optic, what version are you currently using
[09:46] <phiber_optic> 1.5.0.5
[09:46] <phiber_optic> sivik
[09:46] <Sivik> phiber_optic, i'm using 1.8.1 but i got it from the edgy repos
[09:46] <lufis> Is there a way to sort installed packages by date?
[09:47] <phiber_optic> 1.8.1??
[09:47] <Sivik> phiber_optic, yes
[09:47] <viator> phiber_optic lol like from the lod
[09:47] <dragonfyre13> Sivik: alright. It doesn't bother me horribly, it's just annoying. Thought I'd check if it was something others were experiencing.
[09:47] <JamieBE> Where can I make a suggestion for future releases of Ubuntu?
[09:47] <mopflite> phiber_optic: 1.5.0.5 is the latest dapper version - there is a 1.5.0.6 out, but I believe that the ubuntu package maintainer has backported the security update that 1.5.0.6 contains into 1.5.0.5
[09:48] <Bazzi> 1.5.0.6 contains no security update
[09:48] <Sivik> mopflite, i'm testing edgy and i have 1.8.1b1
[09:48] <phiber_optic> mopflite, so there is no 1.5.0.6 update??
[09:48] <snook353> what is a file with a "~" on the end?
[09:48] <Sivik> phiber_optic, why do you need the new update
[09:48] <Bazzi> the .6 thing was windows-only
[09:48] <phiber_optic> the question is why when I enter to windows Live mail i dont have the features
[09:48] <mopflite> phiber_optic: not for dapper, no - there is for other linux distributions I believe
[09:48] <snook353> i'm editing my opera im.css file
[09:48] <Sivik> i have never been able to get opera to work in linux
[09:49] <mopflite> e.g. http://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla/firefox/1.5.0.6/
[09:49] <viator> opera works fine
[09:49] <viator> add the repos
[09:49] <Sivik> viator, i never can get it to install
[09:49] <viator> even fromthe .deb
[09:49] <Sivik> viator, which repos
[09:49] <viator> ?
[09:49] <viator> ill get it one sec
[09:49] <Sivik> viator, thats the one i have been trying
[09:49] <JamieBE> Sivik: I tried using something called e2label and tune2fs - Neither of them support volume renaming under Fat32!?
[09:49] <Knio1> hi, i just downloaded the 6.06.1 ubuntu cd, and when it boots to X, i get a corrupted screen: http://sprintf.net/knio/ubuntu1.jpg
[09:49] <Knio1> and ideas on how i can fix this?
[09:50] <snook353> i'm thinking about deleting the im.css~ file, because i think its holding back my changes
[09:50] <Lil_Elfgirl> hi
[09:50] <mart> hi, anyone have 2 mins to explain how to edit a bluez-utils file?
[09:50] <lufis> Is there a way to sort installed packages by the date they were installed? I accidentally installed some critical libraries that were incompatible with the current versions of stuff and I don't know what it was
[09:50] <viator> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free
[09:50] <Sivik> ok
[09:50] <Sivik> Knio1, go into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver to vesa
[09:50] <snook353> btw, i'm doing this because i have problems with opera's IRC client displaying smilies
[09:51] <phiber_optic> Does anybody of u use tilda??
[09:51] <rev11> sivik, how do i change it to vesa, cant seem to find it
[09:51] <viator> smilies just do :)
[09:51] <rev11> i just get the prompts when i do the reconfigure command
[09:51] <snook353> "Image"
[09:51] <viator> or :-D
[09:51] <viator> lol
[09:51] <snook353> its says "Image"
[09:51] <Sivik> rev11: go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf via either gedit, or vi, or nano and go down to where it says monitor and change the driver from whatever it is to vesa
[09:52] <Sivik> rev11, and after you do that, it will take you back to prompt, from there, type startx and it should attempt to load the X
[09:52] <snook353> last call for what i file with "~" on the end is?
[09:53] <Samuli^> some bioses really have problems with vesa-drivers. I would advice against them.
[09:53] <Sivik> Samuli^, well, i'm just getting him to try that
[09:53] <DBO> snook353, backup, usually made by gedit
[09:53] <mart> hi, i have searched google, and cannot find how to edit files in console, i cannot seem to give myself permission
[09:53] <snook353> ok, thanks!
[09:53] <Lil_Elfgirl> hi I wasx just wondering if ubuntu is good for gamming
[09:53] <Sivik> mart: when you are opening the file, type sudo first
[09:53] <mart> tried that
[09:53] <blue-frog> mart: sudo vi file
[09:53] <mart> it changed the error to no mime type
[09:53] <Sivik> mart: so you don't know you admin password?
[09:53] <mart> i will try that now
[09:54] <mart> i have my pass
[09:54] <Sivik> sudo nano/vi file
[09:54] <easytiger> ha. mart. i wrote a piece of software called mart once
[09:54] <mart> aw sweet you named it after me?
[09:54] <Sivik> and then it should ask for a password and then when you leave, if vi (wq to save and close) and i'm not real sure what the commands for gedit are
[09:54] <easytiger> before you mart. before you.
[09:54] <mart> gedit is what i tried.. no joy
[09:54] <mart> gimme a sec
[09:55] <Abst> When I open GAIM and someone on MSN has added me it automatically closes about 5 seconds after login, and help?
[09:55] <JamieBE> Sivik: I figured it out. There is a tool called mtools - It allows modification of volume names for FAT32 USB drives under Ubuntu. Is there any way of suggesting that this simple command actually works in the next release of Ubuntu?
[09:55] <Sivik> JamieBE, good for you, i don't use FAT32 anymore
[09:56] <Sivik> JamieBE, especially on this computer since i don't have this nasty thing call microcrap installed on it
[09:56] <rev11> hm the xorg was blank :P
[09:56] <PingunZ> I have no sound with youtube movies .. How can I fix this ?
[09:56] <ChaosFan> rev11: xorg.conf is blank?
[09:56] <Knio1> (what's the vi command to save?)
[09:56] <rev11> yea.... let me try rebooting the install.
[09:56] <absolut> How do I get wma support?
[09:57] <JamieBE> Sivik: What FS do you use for external drives?
[09:57] <phiber_optic> if i want to install vmware to run other os which one should i install VMware workstation, VMWare server?
[09:57] <Abst> Anyone know a msn client for linux otherthan Gaim?
[09:58] <phiber_optic> Abst, amsn
[09:58] <blue-frog> phiber_optic: wmare-player
[09:58] <Abst> phiber_optic, Okay
[09:58] <tech13> How do I setup a hotkey for when no one is logged in? I use Dvorak and the others that use my machine use Qwerty, I have an extra key on the keyboard that isn't used for anything under linux (suspend/sleep key).
[09:58] <jerryb> All: anyone know why installing cpufreqd and/or cpudyn wants to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[09:58] <janbanan> Does anyone know where I can find a nice LinuxDC++ icon for my desktop?
[09:58] <phiber_optic> blue-frog,  its free right?
[09:58] <Lil_Elfgirl> Abst there is kopete I believe thats the name
[09:58] <Abst> Also is it safe to remove package ubuntu-desktop?
[09:58] <Lil_Elfgirl> or kopeat
[09:59] <viator> kqemu
[09:59] <mart> thanks for that
[09:59] <mart> nano worked
[09:59] <mart> vi got confused :P
[09:59] <blue-frog> phiber_optic: player yes, station no
[09:59] <viator> server andf player are free
[09:59] <viator> you pay for workstation
[09:59] <phiber_optic> what are the differences?
[10:00] <phiber_optic> I just want to try to see performance of running windows, slack etc
[10:00] <viator> player just runs images
[10:00] <absolut> !mp3
[10:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:00] <blue-frog> phiber_optic: player you need either an existing "image" or you create one yourself
[10:00] <viator> you can creater them with server  / workstation
[10:00] <Knio1> woo X started
[10:01] <phiber_optic> what do u mean an "image"
[10:01] <rev11> xorg is blank in vi
[10:01] <rev11> what the.
[10:01] <blue-frog> phiber_optic: best thing for you is to go to vmware site and read
[10:01] <rev11> and now i cant get out of Vi
[10:01] <viator> you prolly spelled it wrong or in the wrong dir
[10:01] <rev11> ugh
[10:02] <Sivik> rev11, use shift :
[10:02] <Sivik> rev11, and then wq and then press enter
[10:02] <viator> or goto #vmware
[10:02] <Knio1> Sivik: ive fixed my xorg, how to i tell X/gnome/whatever to start again?
[10:02] <Sivik> startx
[10:02] <Knio1> it tells me that it 'found a panel already running and will now exit'
[10:03] <dmoyne> hello ! : with dapper is it possible to get the ldap server in SSL mode ?
[10:03] <coriander> After I select a screensaver, how can I activate it immediately in order to see what it will look like in full screen?
[10:04] <rev11> ah its not doing anything
[10:04] <rev11> :(
[10:05] <k0da> hi all
[10:05] <brian_> Hello
[10:06] <brian_> Banging head off wall now
[10:06] <marcelino> when I choose hibernate and log back in i lose my screen (it stays black) however when i shutdown and reboot everything is ok.How to fix this problem?
[10:06] <brian_> Need help with Wireless netowrking
[10:06] <brian_> networking even
[10:06] <brian_> tried everything
[10:06] <brian_> I know my card is acx100
[10:07] <janbanan> I wan't to copy a file to /usr/share/pixmaps but it say I don't habe the rights. How do I change that?
[10:07] <brian_> It's there in iwconfig
[10:07] <k0da> where gnome-system-tools is a pert of gnome?
[10:07] <brian_> but I cant connect to the access point
[10:07] <ChaosFan> janbanan: become root
[10:07] <brian_> anyone with me...
[10:08] <spunk__> janbanan: "sudo cp ..."
[10:08] <chuckyp> Can someone please explain the difference between apt-get dist-upgrade and just apt-get upgrade?
[10:08] <ChaosFan> brian_: sorry, i've got next to zero experience with wifi-networking
[10:08] <brian_> No Worries man
[10:08] <Knio1> brian_ : iwgonfig ethX essid <ap name> ?
[10:09] <chuckyp> brian_: iwconfig not iwgonfig  spelling mistake
[10:09] <chuckyp> ?
[10:09] <Renan_s2> chuckyp: dist-upgrade is "smart", i.e. it upgrades packages and all their dependencies
[10:09] <brian_> Chuckyp: Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[10:09] <brian_>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted.
[10:09] <chuckyp> Renan_s2: dist-upgrade wants to install all sorts of new packages that I've never had installed.
[10:09] <jerryb> All: anyone know why installing cpufreqd and/or cpudyn wants to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[10:09] <Knio1> sudo iwconfig ethX essid apname
[10:10] <ladydoor> chuckyp: apt-get dist-upgrade upgrades you to a new distribution, whereas upgrade just upgrades your packages to the latest available in your current distro
[10:10] <chuckyp> jerryb: problem with a dependancy on the package most likely
[10:10] <chuckyp> ty
[10:10] <Ricesteam> Hi, I just installed a new widescreen monitor. I use xine to play my media files. Dvd movies still have those black bands for widescreen movies. Is that normal?
[10:10] <phiber_optic> does anybody use tilda?
[10:10] <jerryb> chuckyp, Are the package maintainers easy to find?  I'd like to report the problem
[10:10] <brian_> kniol: wlan0     IEEE 802.11b+/g+  ESSID:"ZYXEL_WEIR_WIRELESS"  Nickname:"acx v0.3.21"
[10:10] <brian_>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[10:11] <marcelino> when I choose hibernate and log back in I lose my screen (it stays black) however when I shutdown and reboot everything is ok.How to fix this problem?
[10:12] <Knio1> brian_: not sure.. thats what i do to get my wifi up, i dont know any more
[10:12] <viator> got to have firmware
[10:12] <rev11>  ?  /etc/x11/xorg.conf is blank in VI with a bunch of tildas off a new burned cd
[10:12] <shut-> hey whats the root password for ubuntu ?
[10:12] <rev11> :(
[10:12] <brian_> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/Distribution_list/Ubuntu
[10:13] <brian_> just about as clear as mud
[10:13] <dabbler> tilda represents home directory...........eg ~/<name>  ==  /home/<name>
[10:13] <ladydoor> shut-: there isn't one. use sudo
[10:13] <harisund> Does anybody know of any command line tool that I can use to resize a bunch of images (.jpg)?
[10:13] <ladydoor> shut-: or set one if you *absolutely* have to with sudo passwd root, so that you can su
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> rev11: /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- X11 not x11
[10:15] <Shadowpillar> otherwise you can be root with sudo
[10:15] <Shadowpillar> sudo -s
[10:15] <Shadowpillar> etc
[10:15] <Shadowpillar> sudo -s will give you a root shell
[10:15] <Roma83m> italian?
[10:15] <Roma83m> ops italian with macbook?
[10:15] <ladydoor> !it
[10:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:16] <eightball> 'sudo bash' will give you a root shell too
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> harisund: imagemagick
[10:16] <harisund> fyrestrtr: hmmm... ok thanks :) Will check it out.
[10:17] <Naik0> Where should i put my downloaded fonts in?
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> sudo -i is also good for that
[10:17] <aburton> so I have an msi k8n neo4 platinum running  desktop amd64 and an analog set of 5.1 speakers. I can only get output from one speaker. What should I do?
[10:17] <abhinay> Naik0, /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[10:17] <Naik0> thx
[10:17] <dabbler> sudo su makes yr home = /root  while sudo -s keeps you at yr normal home
[10:18] <rev11> permission denied :( what the
[10:19] <eightball> rev: copy with sudo
[10:19] <simplydazed> Hi, my battery is 100% but it states that i have 5 mins battery life left. Then it hibernates soon after. Any idea why?
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> simplydazed: incomplete acpi support.
[10:20] <aburton> yeah, mine does that too
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> simplydazed: what laptop is it?
[10:20] <simplydazed> it's a Sony Vaio
[10:20] <aburton> 15% percent left. -1 minutes remaining
[10:20] <aburton> haha
[10:20] <viator> kde has sony vaio crap
[10:20] <eightball> also could be a battery going bad.
[10:20] <eightball> what type of battery is it?
[10:20] <simplydazed> it's a brand new laptop
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> oooh .. wait, you said its a sony laptop?
[10:21] <rev11> so where exactly do i type "vesa" (sorry for the dumb questions)
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> STEP AWAY FROM THE BATTERY.
[10:21] <eightball> simplydazed: i've seen lots of things come from the factory bad
[10:21] <simplydazed> aargh, i don't want to change to KDE
[10:21] <simplydazed> uhm, i get 3+ hours in windows :/
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> rev11: Driver "vesa"
[10:21] <eightball> oh ok
[10:21] <simplydazed> any idea's guys?
[10:21] <Ayabara> !restricted
[10:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:22] <aburton> help with audio?
[10:22] <Girth> i just installed ubuntu.I already had windows installed so I had to change the partition size and everything but that all went fine. after it was finished installing I rebooted and expected to see grub pop up but I get nothing but a straight boot to windows. anyone know how to fix this?
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Girth: you don't see anything that indicates grub is loading?
[10:23] <Girth> nothing at all it just boots straight to windows
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Girth: sounds like grub wasn't installed at the mbr.
[10:24] <rev11> thats the thing, i dont see Monitor then driver under that, the only driver is the video device and thats ati.
[10:24] <rev11> and if i change that it just goes blank
[10:24] <Shadowpillar> so what's so different about the 3 different kernels?
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> rev11: why don't you just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:24] <rev11> did that
[10:24] <Shadowpillar> -23 -25 -26?
[10:24] <rev11> doesnt work
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> what video card do you have?
[10:24] <rev11> ati x850
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> laptop?
[10:25] <Girth> how exactly do I go about fixing that?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> !grub > Girth
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> Girth: see what ubotu sent you
[10:25] <simplydazed> 17mins remaining of 99% battery lol
[10:26] <Girth> thanks
[10:26] <aburton> I have an msi k8n neo4 platinum running  desktop amd64 and an analog set of 5.1 speakers. I can only get output from one speaker. What should I do?
[10:26] <rev11> i dont know if im just stupid or something, but there is nothing that says driver
[10:26] <mart> is there any way to drag files to copy them in the gui rather than console, when it needs a password?
[10:26] <rev11> identifier then option
[10:26] <rev11> thats it
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> rev11: alright tell me from the top, what is the problem you are trying to solve, what have you tried, etc.
[10:26] <sethk> mart, you have to start the file manager as the admin user, with sudo or gksudo whatever
[10:27] <mart> sorry to ask questions like this :P
[10:27] <mart> im exreamly new.....
[10:27] <mart> and i cant type :P lol
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> mart: its alright, how else would you get to know? :)
[10:27] <lotusleaf> mart why not sudo su then copy files in CLI?
[10:27] <lotusleaf> mart if it needs password, sudo su is good then exit to return as user
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> lotusleaf: as he said, he's new :) so he might not know the command in the cli.
[10:27] <sethk> mart, not a problem.  you don't really have to type well to use the console.  Type the first couple of letters of the file name, then press the tab key, and the name will be completed automatically for you.
[10:27] <lotusleaf> fyrestrtr: that's why I suggested it :)
[10:28] <mart> nice advice
[10:28] <mart> make swapping to ubuntu easier knowing i can ask for a little help :)
[10:28] <aburton> where should I go to get help with my problem?
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> mart: the wiki is a great place to spend some quality time if you are new to ubuntu.
[10:28] <rev11> installing ubuntu amd64, got the x server error. tried that update command, do the setup, get to color depth and then it errors(?) and gives command line. so then i was trying to just edit xorg, but i dont see where it says monitor driver, should i add in a line?
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> a lot of questions are answered there.
[10:29] <sethk> mart, ok.  that's not a ubuntu thing, it's really a shell thing.  The bash and zsh shells have the tab completion feature, and both are also available in windows
[10:29] <blue-frog> mart is it compulsory for you to copy files where only root is supposed to have permission?
[10:29] <mart> yeah, read alot of that now
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> rev11: what errors does it give you?
[10:29] <aburton> hello?
[10:29] <rev11> ill do it now 1 sec
[10:29] <mart> its actually for a skin for msn messenger
[10:29] <mart> cant copy the file as it says i dont have permission
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> rev11: errors are in /var/log/X11/Xorg.0.log
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> mart: what are you trying to copy and to where?
[10:30] <blue-frog> mart what file from where to where?
[10:30] <mart> normally i wouldnt care but the fonts on the current skin are squashed :P
[10:30] <mart> copying from my desktop folder
[10:30] <sethk> mart, nothing wrong with copying files of that sort
[10:30] <mart> to usr/share/amsn
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> mart: the command you want is: sudo cp ~/Desktop/nameoffile /usr/share/amsn/
[10:30] <aburton> can anyone read what I'm typing? (I'm not sure)
[10:31] <blue-frog> mart sudo cp /home/mart/Desktop/file /usr/share/amsn
[10:31] <sethk> mart, there is often an alternate directory somewhere in $HOME for such files to be copied, but I don't know whether that's true for that particular program
[10:31] <shut-> hey i got jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin downloaded
[10:31] <shut-> now how do i install it
[10:31] <|thunder> aburton, yep, we can
[10:31] <rev11> xserver-xorg postinst warning overwriting possible customeised config; file backup blah blah, then command line
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> !java > shut-
[10:31] <mart> ahh sweet one
[10:31] <mart> many thanks again
[10:31] <aburton> where should I go to get help with my problem?
[10:31] <mart> if i start annoying you with question just tell me to F** off :)
[10:31] <glassbits> i have a via onboard graphics and i installled xcompmgr by referring this
[10:31] <glassbits> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527
[10:32] <sethk> mart, you don't have to worry about asking questions in a support channel.
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> rev11: hrmm ... okay.
[10:32] <glassbits> i can see shadows but i dont have window accleration
[10:32] <ScribbleJ> Aburton: alsamixer ?
[10:32] <mart> lol
[10:32] <eightball> shut: use the sh command with the filename
[10:32] <chaosphilipp> Has anyone got a little bit of time for a luser trying to get a lxuser?
[10:32] <sris> I've just installed ubuntu for the first time. And i have a lot of ntfs partitions i want to be able to access. It's seems as if they're all mounted in /tmp/disks-conf-h*, but im not able to access them. Is this normal behavoiur for a "first install"? (im new to linux, first install ever)
[10:32] <ScribbleJ> What's the gnome mixer tool?
[10:32] <sethk> mart, regardless of how you may be treated in other channels :)
[10:32] <mart> im a windows user :P you always have to say sorry :P
[10:32] <canine_kouji> did people really call the boot screen "scary text" ?:)
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> rev11: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:32] <|thunder> will someone see if they can install this  karaoke player, please? I cant get it to install for the life of me. its here http://www.kibosh.org/pykaraoke/downloads.php
[10:32] <glassbits> i use a mac at my workplace which has windows accleration and i just want window accleration in ubuntu what do i do ?
[10:33] <aigarius> Is there a workaround for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/57435 (no manual partitioning in Edgy Knot2) ?
[10:33] <aburton> ScribbleJ: what is that?
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs > sris
[10:33] <blue-frog> sris: you sure you installed ubuntu or you are running on the livecd?
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> sris: welcome, and read what ubotu sent you in a private message
[10:33] <JoseStefan> fyrestrtr, i think dpkk-reconfigure makes backups by default
[10:33] <sris> blue-frog:  im running it "for real"
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> aigarius: best place to ask that, is in #ubuntu+1
[10:33] <ScribbleJ> aburton, there's probably a graphical tool to do the same thing that someone can name... I use kubuntu and kmixer, but alsamixer lets you set sound card setting from a command line.
[10:33] <ScribbleJ> kmixer from the kde desktop... and something from gnome. anyone?
[10:34] <chaosphilipp> I just got this error, does anyone know how i can get help?
[10:34] <chaosphilipp> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> double click on the speaker icon = gnome mixer
[10:34] <aburton> ScribbleJ: Alsamixer-gui
[10:34] <sris> thanks, all, im gonna read that ;)
[10:34] <aaarg> is there anyway to integrate transset into the menu or some other way than having to type in treminal?
[10:34] <NthDegree> sris, NTFS is a windows partitioning format
[10:34] <|thunder> does anyone know a karaoke player for linux thats easy to install and plays zip files?
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> chaosphilipp: what are you trying to compile?
[10:34] <ScribbleJ> Chaosphillip, apt-get install build-essentials
[10:34] <sris> NthDegree: yes?
[10:34] <chaosphilipp> libnjb
[10:34] <sris> NthDegree:  i have windows installed too
[10:34] <rev11> ok now there is no error, just command line
[10:34] <rev11> what next
[10:35] <sris> NthDegree: i've got six drives in this box ;)
[10:35] <chaosphilipp> scribble: gonna try this
[10:35] <NthDegree> sris: you need to mount the NTFS partitions to mount points
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> rev11: now run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:35] <canine_kouji> is there a technical ubuntu channel where there aren't any newbies?
[10:35] <ScribbleJ> it might be build-essential with no 's', I can never remember.
[10:35] <sethk> chaosphilipp, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:35] <PreZLaptop> this is kind of cool
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> rev11: go through the options, let it create a new file.
[10:35] <PreZLaptop> I'm online from the car (my wife is driving)
[10:35] <rev11> yea did that and didnt get an error
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> rev11: then, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:35] <compengi> sris when i have first installed my dapper the NTFS partitions were already mounted
[10:35] <Ekeichi> heya
[10:35] <rev11> at the color bit i hit ok and it just gives command line
[10:35] <PreZLaptop> using EVDO under Ubuntu :)
[10:35] <sethk> ScribbleJ, chaosphilipp yes, it is build-essential
[10:35] <sris> NthDegree: well i've tried that. but they're allready mounted. but i cant access them. well im gonna read the guide before asking anything else.
[10:36] <chaosphilipp> sethk: just apt-get seems to work
[10:36] <glassbits> i use a mac at my workplace which has windows accleration and i just want window accleration in ubuntu what do i do ?
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> rev11: if it gives you an error, pastebin /var/log/X11/Xorg.0.log
[10:36] <cvasilak> hello, can someone suggest a video4linux capture client?
[10:36] <NthDegree> sris, try accessing them as root
[10:36] <dmoyne> hello : ; has anybody made ldap server work with SSL mode ?
[10:36] <compengi> sris you can access them (read them) but you can't write to them
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> rev11: okay, pastebin you /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:36] <NthDegree> sris, you usually need root access to access most NTFS partitions
[10:36] <sris> compengi: nah, cant read them either
[10:37] <NthDegree> sris, try gksudo nautilus then have a look
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> sris: you need to mount them first.
[10:37] <sris> NthDegree: is there a way to get rootaccess without except for sudo? or can i use that in some way?
[10:37] <rev11> im not sure how to do that
[10:37] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to get banshee to see my ipod but it's not working
[10:37] <compengi> fyrestrtr they are already mounted
[10:37] <glassbits> please help me
[10:37] <DigitalNinja> Am I doing something wrong
[10:37] <sris> fyrestrtr: they're allready mounted. if i try to mount them i get an error saying they're allready mounted ;)
[10:37] <NthDegree> sris, gksudo nautilus will give you access to the file manager as root
[10:37] <ChaosFan> sris: whar exactly do you want? a root shell?
[10:38] <|thunder> sris you can do 'sudo bash' to stay as root. then 'exit' to get back to normal user
[10:38] <chaosphilipp> ./configure does a whole lot more now....let's see what's going to happen
[10:38] <sris> ChaosFan: I want to access my ntfs-partitions, and learn more about linux ;)
[10:38] <NthDegree> |thunder, or sudo -i which is much more complete
[10:38] <sris> |thunder: ah ok.
[10:38] <glassbits> please help me :(
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> sris: patebin the ouput of the command 'mount'
[10:38] <NthDegree> glassbits, bloody hell who said ubuntu was Mac OS X
[10:39] <Ayabara> is azureus the good choice for a torrent-client?
[10:39] <glassbits> i use a mac at my workplace which has windows accleration and i just want window accleration in ubuntu what do i do ? i have a via unichrome integrated graphics
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> glassbits: what do you mean 'windows acceleration'? Someone throws your mac out the window, and it flies faster than the pc?
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> Ayabara: sure.
[10:39] <glassbits> i cannot move windows smoothly as in mac
[10:39] <ScribbleJ> I use btodwnloadcurses and screen
 i cannot move windows smoothly as in mac???
[10:40] <glassbits> i have xcompmgr but its still slow
[10:40] <ScribbleJ> s/btodw/btdow/
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> glassbits: not much you can do, unfortunately. You have a very ancient video card.
[10:40] <Nizo> hi is there anyone who can help me with wifi set up??
[10:40] <sris> fyrestrtr: http://rafb.net/paste/results/uS7vRF49.html
[10:40] <MrParanoia> i don't know guys - i'm having a lot of difficulty installing packages or i get a dependency installed and i still get a message that it's still missing, etc.
[10:40] <NthDegree> glassbits, try using a different window manager
[10:40] <glassbits> its a unichrome thts fairly recent and its certainly better than i810
[10:40] <|thunder> glassbits, apple does things differently. they use Quartz Extreme to utilize openGL in ATI cards to accellerate the desktop. the slosest we have is compiz. that is open accellerated.
[10:41] <ScribbleJ> MrParanoia, what did you do?
[10:41] <richiefrich> MrParanoia archlinux is great
[10:41] <MrParanoia> ubuntu 6.06.1
[10:41] <egon_spengler> fyrestrtr, The unichrome is a fairly recent via integrated video chipset.
[10:41] <Ayabara> ScribbleJ: ok. I need a nice gui :-)
[10:41] <simplydazed> eightball: i just disabled ACPI, it's staying up now. What do you suggest?
[10:41] <rev11> this is real dumb, why is this happening.
[10:41] <rev11> stupid x serv crap
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> egon_spengler: they chose a very stupid name for it then.
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> 'unichrome' ?
[10:41] <glassbits> i dont understand ppl run compiz on i810 but i cant have simple window acceleration on a via unichrome pro igp
[10:41] <glassbits> why is tht
[10:41] <richiefrich> |thunder  u can access HFS+ on linux
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> glassbits: have you tried aiglx?
[10:42] <compengi> is ubuntu 6.06.1 a kernel update or a new ubuntu version?
[10:42] <NthDegree> glassbits, wtf are you running compiz for
[10:42] <vincenz> Ok, I got my brother to install ubuntu, well he will soon, first time he uses linux
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> glassbits: because compiz is experimental stuff, so it doesn't work with all cards.
[10:42] <glassbits> no i havent tried aiglx
[10:42] <Slyboots> Hi
[10:42] <vincenz> how does he install a usb modem?
[10:42] <eightball> i've never used acpi, so i honestly don't know
[10:42] <glassbits> should i
[10:42] <nownott> i changed my screen resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 on my laptop and now my pics and vids look funny, any hlep w/ this
[10:42] <|thunder> richiefrich, ive tried like the dickens. no luck. tried to mount a HFS+ midi disc player too. no luck
[10:42] <eightball> did it include installation instructions?
[10:42] <NthDegree> glassbits, compiz will be slow on an old graphics card, try standard Xorg
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> glassbits: first, try to figure out what is the driver that your video card needs. Maybe its not available, and you can fetch and install it.
[10:42] <richiefrich> |thunder then do you have support ?  cat /proc/filesystems | grep hf
[10:42] <richiefrich> |thunder  --> hfsplus  <-- do you see that
[10:43] <|thunder> richiefrich, nope
[10:43] <glassbits> its the latest driver i can get, the one on freedesktop is older and ran slower
[10:43] <compengi> is ubuntu 6.06.1 a kernel update or a new ubuntu version, or it's an ubuntu server?
[10:43] <richiefrich> |thunder thats why
[10:43] <ChaosFan> compengi: ubuntu version
[10:43] <NthDegree> glassbits, one question why are you using compiz
[10:43] <compengi> O.o
[10:43] <sris> fyrestrtr: didnt that output tell you anything? It probably works just fine. Im just beeing noobish. well, gonna read that beginner help meanwhile
[10:43] <|thunder> richiefrich, hmm, how do I go about adding support.
[10:43] <nownott> anyone know anything thing about reslution and problems
[10:43] <glassbits> my glxgears score is
[10:43] <glassbits> 2056 frames in 5.0 seconds = 411.061 FPS
[10:43] <glassbits> 2215 frames in 5.0 seconds = 442.873 FPS
[10:43] <compengi> ChaosFan is it dapper?
[10:43] <glassbits> i am not using compiz
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> sris: yeah, sorry was caught up in something.
[10:43] <glassbits> i am using xcompmgr
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> sris: type sudo -i
[10:44] <chaosphilipp> re......i now tried
[10:44] <chaosphilipp> cat nomad.usermap >> /etc/hotplug/usb/usb.usermap ; cp nomadjukebox /etc/hotplug/usb/ ; chmod a+x /etc/hotplug/usb/nomadjukebox
[10:44] <chaosphilipp> and it brought me
[10:44] <chaosphilipp> bash: /etc/hotplug/usb/usb.usermap: No such file or directory
[10:44] <chaosphilipp> cp: angegebenes Ziel /etc/hotplug/usb/ ist kein Verzeichnis: No such file or directory
[10:44] <chaosphilipp> chmod: Zugriff auf /etc/hotplug/usb/nomadjukebox nicht mglich: No such file or directory
[10:44] <egon_spengler> fyrestrtr, The driver for the unichrome integrated would be the "via", but I do not thing compiz/XGL are supported
[10:44] <chaosphilipp> btw: i'm trying to work me through this Howto:
[10:44] <chaosphilipp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33040
[10:44] <randin> how does one disable agpgart?
[10:44] <vincenz> Anyone
[10:44] <sris> fyrestrtr: done
[10:44] <Slyboots> Im having a unusual issue with Ubunut, Trying to get my TV-card to work with xawtv/tvtime.  I've installed the flgrx drivers and they seem to be operating correctly, but when I execute xawtv the screen blanks out totaly and I have to force-kill gdm from the command line
[10:44] <NthDegree> randin, recompile the kernel without agpgart support
[10:44] <richiefrich> |thunder one of two ways.. edit the kernel or see if you can mount the module.. i dont use the binary kernels i load them "roll" them myself
[10:44] <ChaosFan> compengi: yes, it's dapper
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> sris: cd /tmp/disks-conf-hdg1
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> sris: ls -la
[10:44] <sris> fyrestrtr: works just fine ;)
[10:44] <rev11> is there a version of ubuntu i can get thats not buggy
[10:45] <Slyboots> tvtool simply outputs a error message "Recivecd X Error! : BadValue (interger parmeter out of range for operation)
[10:45] <NthDegree> rev11, yes it's called LFS!!!
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> randin: rmmod agpgart if its a module (lsmod will tell you)
[10:45] <vincenz> Anyone know how to setup a USB-modem...for installing ubuntu????
[10:45] <MrParanoia> ScribbleJ> i'm trying to install vlc but there is no package to apt-get so i am trying to install it from tarball and i keep getting a message that ffmpeg is missing - i installed a .deb package for it from ubuntu's web site and it still says ffmpeg is missing - also apt-get gstreamer-ffmeg says the package may have been replaced - and so on
[10:45] <randin> ok
[10:45] <ChaosFan> lol
[10:45] <|thunder> richiefrich, can that be accomplished via synaptic ?
[10:45] <ChaosFan> lfs not buggy ^^
[10:45] <compengi> ok, i thought it's new ubuntu version other than dapper
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> rev11: what happened with you? where did you reach?
[10:45] <richiefrich> |thunder  modprobe hfs  <-- you can try
[10:45] <ScribbleJ> MrParanoia, I'm running vlc every day.  LEt me see how I installed it...
[10:45] <sris> fyrestrtr: if i want all users to be able to read them, do i have to unmount them first and then remount with the proper premissions?
[10:45] <richiefrich> |thunder and no you need to config your own if there is no support
[10:45] <Nizo> can someone help me with wifi setup?
[10:45] <rev11> i tried startx or whatyever and it just error again
[10:46] <ChaosFan> NthDegree: lfs - same source, no bugs, or what? ;)
[10:46] <nownott> fyrestrtr: think you can lend me a hand
[10:46] <NthDegree> vincenz, google is your friend USB modems are a PITA
[10:46] <rev11> even after the reconfigure
[10:46] <vincenz> !usb modem
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb modem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <MrParanoia> rev11> probably a video driver issue
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> depends on your problem nownott
[10:46] <|thunder> i have hfsplus and hfsutils packages installed. says they can do it.
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> sris: yes.
[10:46] <Slyboots> Any possable suggestions on what could be going wrong?
[10:46] <sris> fyrestrtr: ok. thanks
[10:46] <rev11> so now im trying to download the new xserver
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> sris: and for that, read the wiki entry :)
[10:46] <rev11> xorg
[10:46] <richiefrich> |thunder this is why i dont like binary distro.. thats essentially to running linux if they didnt add support then "most" dont know howto "compile" there own kernel
[10:46] <sris> thanks everyboy else too
[10:47] <shut-> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> rev11: slow down, what error did you get? did you pastebin the Xorg.0.log file?
[10:47] <NthDegree> vincenz, USB modems are what ISPs give out for free, unless it's a speedtouch 330/USB chances are life will be hard for you
[10:47] <ScribbleJ> MrParanoia, did you add universe / multiverse to your apt-sources?
[10:47] <nownott> well i upped my reslution on my laptop from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 now my pics and vids look bad
[10:47] <towersoft2> anyone got a min to help me with a small bash script... Just seem to be banging my head against the wall at the mo
[10:47] <shut-> anyone wanna help me
[10:47] <MrParanoia> no
[10:47] <easytiger> whats the sound device in ubuntu by default/
[10:47] <martii> dpkg-query  -W -f='${Package}\t${Size}\n' - why size is empty foe every package?
[10:47] <easytiger> ?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> !java > shut-
[10:47] <richiefrich> |thunder theae are my opinions
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> shut-: read the wiki entry.
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> easytiger: alsa
[10:47] <aburton> anyone have experience with amd64 desktop and audio setup?
[10:47] <shut-> huh
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> !java
[10:47] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:47] <chaosphilipp> anyone able to helb me?
[10:47] <rev11> i think ther was to much goin on and i asked how to pastebin and no one responded :P
[10:47] <|thunder> richiefrich, yep. thats alot of work. what a pain
[10:47] <chaosphilipp> helb = help
[10:47] <rev11> so i tried some more things
[10:48] <ChaosFan> easytiger: /dev/dsp
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin
[10:48] <Slyboots> !xawtv
[10:48] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.94-1.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 219 kB, installed size 712 kB
[10:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:48] <|thunder> richiefrich, thanks for the hepl though. I'll ahve to research this one later. ive never recompiled my kernel. ever
[10:48] <nownott> fyrestrtr: well i upped my reslution on my laptop from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 now my pics and vids look bad
 ogle and vmware are saying they can't find it
[10:48] <crimsun> easytiger: 'default', believe it or not.
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> shut-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java <-- read that, it will tell you how to set it up.
[10:48] <MrParanoia> ScribbleJ> this is the default install
[10:48] <richiefrich> |thunder i bet not many have..
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> nownott: define 'look bad' -- they are distorted?
[10:48] <crimsun> ChaosFan: no, /dev/dsp is the emulated oss device. It's not the default.
[10:48] <ScribbleJ> MrPAranoia, I don't knwo how to walk you through adding universe and multiverse in a graphical way, I'm sorry.
[10:48] <richiefrich> |thunder that is again my pet peeve on all binary distro
[10:48] <|thunder> richiefrich, i've done it in red hat 9.  buit not in ubuntu.
[10:48] <ScribbleJ> But I think if you do you'll find you can just apt-get install vlc
[10:49] <NthDegree> chaosphilipp, tell me your problem in PM
 so what should i point things to?
[10:49] <ChaosFan> and i'm going to bed
[10:49] <|thunder> richiefrich, so, anything other than gentoo you mean ?
[10:49] <crimsun> easytiger: you should not specify anything explicitly unless you must
[10:49] <Enthusiast78> I have jammed my /boot/grub/menu.lst; How do I create a fresh one? I have tried to rename the file and then dpkg-reconfigure grub and aptitude reinstall grub but it didn't even touch the file.
[10:49] <richiefrich> |thunder so then get a kernel at  kernel.org
[10:49] <vincenz> NthDegree: it's a pirelli
[10:49] <richiefrich> |thunder gentoo is not the only source distro
[10:49] <towersoft2> anyone give me a hand with a bash script please?
[10:49] <|thunder> richiefrich, lol, precompiled jern's. funny
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> !grub > Enthusiast78
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> Enthusiast78: read the wiki pages ubotu sent you.
[10:49] <NthDegree> vincenz, my advice is get an ethernet router
[10:49] <nownott> fyrestrtr: well grainy and it looks like bad shading like the light colors light and the dark colors dark
[10:49] <Enthusiast78> fyrestrtr: Thanks, man.
 i didn't. and it tries /dev/dsp and gives an error. ogle is the same
[10:50] <vincenz> NthDegree: the issue is he has no ethernet card
[10:50] <|thunder> richiefrich, thanks again,. im gonna take a nap.
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> nownott: what is the native resolution of your laptop? what kind of video card do you have?
[10:50] <|thunder> later all
[10:50] <richiefrich> |thunder  there are many more ...    Lunar.. ROCK.. sourcemage...  T2
[10:50] <blue-frog> towersoft2: go on ask
[10:50] <richiefrich> |thunder np man
[10:50] <crimsun> easytiger: only one application can open /dev/dsp at a time if your hardware doesn't support pcm multiopen
[10:50] <NthDegree> vincenz, private message me
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> easytiger: you might consider using the dmix plugin.
[10:50] <aburton> anyone? please?
 my hardware does :(
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> aburton: are you still having problems with sound?
[10:51] <crimsun> fyrestrtr: irrelevant for emulated oss
[10:51] <towersoft2> thanks blue!
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> crimsun: is it?
[10:51] <aburton> fyrestrtr: yeah
[10:51] <nownott> fyrestrtr: i believe nvidia geforce 2(old laptop card) and dont know the native resulution
[10:51] <rev11> why is it doing this
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> aburton: have you tried the forums? I think someone else found a solution there.
[10:51] <crimsun> fyrestrtr: /dev/dsp is exclusive (just like non-dmix {plug:,}hw) on hardware that doesn't support pcm multiopen
[10:51] <ScribbleJ> aburton, I have AMD 64 dual core, SoundBlaster 5.1 audio setup and I just had to tweak some sliders in kmixer (under kubuntu) to get it all to work.
[10:51] <aburton> only the center channel/subwoofer is working
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> crimsun: ooh, like my crappola built-in sound card lol
[10:52] <easytiger> so if something insists on an audio device what should i use?
[10:52] <rev11> id rather just download an older version, this is real stupid,
[10:52] <aburton> I used alsamixer-gui
[10:52] <crimsun> easytiger: does the application have a native alsa backend?
[10:52] <easytiger> FATAL[ogle_audio] : failed opening the oss audio driver at /dev/dsp
[10:52] <rev11> because xorg.conf doesnt even have the driver field like everyone says
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> rev11: please, help me to help you. Can you paste /var/log/X11/Xorg.0.log
[10:52] <easytiger> <crimsun: its ogle and vmware.. so i dunno
[10:52] <JoseStefan> !paste
[10:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:52] <nownott>  fyrestrtr: i believe nvidia geforce 2(old laptop card) and dont know the native resulution
[10:52] <JoseStefan> just in case
[10:52] <crimsun> easytiger: and according to ``apt-cache depends ogle'', yes, it does. Configure ogle to use alsa for its backend.
[10:52] <phiber_optic> why when I was trying to install my nvidia card when I did the command sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it gave me an error
[10:53] <rev11> i dont understand wher you want me to paste it
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> nownott: how big is the laptop screen?
[10:53] <rev11> im sorry
[10:53] <sethk> rev11, installing breezy (one version back) is not a bad idea
[10:53] <rev11> :(
[10:53] <easytiger> how? it wont open to the gui
[10:53] <nownott>  fyrestrtr: 17
[10:53] <boricua> can some one shed light how to i try a test call with ekiga  i want to make a pc to land call to test this
[10:53] <Enthusiast78> fyrestrtr: Fine, it created menu.lst for me. Now I want it to add the default Windows entry it put when I installed Ubuntu. Is that possible?
[10:53] <sethk> rev11, when people ask you to post, they mean to a web site.  I'll give you the url in a second
[10:53] <easytiger> and vmwarre has no such options
[10:53] <crimsun> easytiger: read the instructions/man page for ogle
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> nownott: (you can find out what hardware you have, by running any one of the following commands: lspci -v or lshw)
[10:53] <rev11> oh ok cool
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> Enthusiast78: just copy it from the one you have :)
[10:53] <sethk> rev11, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:54] <Enthusiast78> fyrestrtr: The problem is: I don't have that entry anymore...
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> rev11: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and then create a new entry there, then copy and paste the url here. Sorry if I didn't mention this earlier.
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> Enthusiast78: aah lol
[10:54] <boricua> !ekiga
[10:54] <ubotu> ekiga: Free Your Speech. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> Enthusiast78: that webpage should tell you how to set it up again for Windows.
[10:54] <Enthusiast78> fyrestrtr: I could create it manually, but I want the original thing, the one with the "Other operating systems:" text entry and stuff...
[10:54] <rev11> its cool, give me a sec
[10:54] <towersoft2> blue-frog: where is ask m8... Thought it was a channel?
[10:55] <nownott>  fyrestrtr:  product: NV11 [GeForce2 Go] 
[10:55] <Enthusiast78> fyrestrtr: There must be a script that Ubuntu ran on the installation to create that thing automatically...
[10:55] <Slyboots> Im having a unusual issue with Ubunut, Trying to get my TV-card to work with xawtv/tvtime.  I've installed the flgrx drivers and they seem to be operating correctly, but when I execute xawtv the screen blanks out totaly and I have to force-kill gdm from the command line
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> Enthusiast78: there is, but I forgot the name, but the wiki pages have the script.
[10:55] <Sid6000> Could anyone help me the gnome network manager? It claims there's no network connection...
[10:55] <MrParanoia> ScribbleJ> i got the universe/multivers repositories added - hopefully that gets things going
[10:56] <Slyboots> If I use tvtime, the display continues but it instantly exits with "Recived X Error : BadValue (Interger parameter out of range for operation)
[10:56] <ScribbleJ> sudo apt-get update
[10:56] <ScribbleJ> sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:56] <Enthusiast78> fyrestrtr: Hmmm, not that page... But I'll keep searching, thanks.
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> nownott: okay, what driver are you using?
[10:56] <blue-frog> towersoft2: ask your question, spit it out..
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> Enthusiast78: the bot should give you two links, its on the page that talks about recovering grub after windows.
[10:57] <nownott> fyrestrtr: i used the easy ubuntu thing to install nvidia drivers
[10:57] <chell> good night everyone
[10:57] <exs> Alternate install CD for PC... I don't understand this?..  I'm trying to figure out what knot-2 i want
[10:57] <Enthusiast78> fyrestrtr: You're absolutely right. Sorry, I overlooked it. I think I'm going blind...
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> nownott: okay, now how big is your laptop screen? Do you know if its supports anything higher than 1024x768
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> Enthusiast78: happens :)
[10:58] <nownott> fyrestrtr: that i don not know, is there a way to find this out
[10:58] <JoseStefan> !edgy > exs
[10:58] <towersoft2> blue-frog: I am trying to write a script that runs a command in a terminal window.. I just cant get a program to run after it opens the terminal window
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> nownott: well from what you have told me, I'd say it supports 1024x768 max :)
[10:58] <rev11> fyrestrtr: thres nothing in that log file
[10:58] <rev11> and i did everything up to that
[10:58] <exs> JoseStefan:  I understand what edgy is, but what's the difference between Alternate install CD for PC and Desktop CD for PC
[10:58] <sethk> nownott, probably you could find out on the laptop manufacturer's web site
[10:59] <nownott> fyrestrtr: but i win i can run 1280x1024 and it looks fine
[10:59] <JoseStefan> same differences as for ubuntu 6.06 (dapper)
[10:59] <blue-frog> towersoft2: /join #bluefrog to tell me what you want to do..
[10:59] <chuckyp> ls
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> rev11: you have nothing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[10:59] <rev11> correct
[10:59] <JoseStefan> exs, the download page, should have documentation on that
[10:59] <sethk> exs, the desktop is (theoretically) easier to use and has reasonable defaults for a desktop user.  The alternate lets you control much more about the installation and has options for less common hardware
[10:59] <chuckyp> does anyone know how to switch windows in irssi?
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> rev11: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, not /var/log/X11/Xorg.0.log
[11:00] <exs> sethk:  awesome, cheers.
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> chuckyp: alt+window number
[11:00] <sethk> rev11, it isn't possible that the file exists, but is empty
[11:00] <JoseStefan> chuckyp, i think you use Alt+number
[11:00] <Naik0> My icons on desktop are missing
[11:00] <Naik0> like home folder
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> chuckyp: or, esc+window number
[11:00] <duaneb> how can I mount a logical partition?
[11:00] <rev11> ah there we go i tyoed it wrong, im dumb
[11:00] <exs> sethk:  Also, Where is the 686 version?.. i only see i386
[11:00] <sethk> duaneb, same way you mount any other partition
[11:00] <chuckyp> fyrestrtr: ty both work
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> duaneb: sudo mount -t auto /dev/hdaX /some/where
[11:00] <chuckyp> JoseStefan: ty
[11:01] <sethk> exs, I just install i386 and then upgrade the kernel to 686
[11:01] <duaneb> hdax?
[11:01] <Ekeichi> hi
[11:01] <Ayabara> you got any good themes to recommend for ubuntu? I'm tired of the default look..
[11:01] <sethk> duaneb, yes.  hda5, hda6, whatever
[11:01] <rev11> ok now that i have it, how do i upload it somewhere
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> where X is the number of the partition you want to mount. Try system > administration > disks
[11:01] <duaneb> so I have an extended partition (sda3), and two logical partitions underneath it
[11:01] <exs> sethk:  ok cheers
[11:01] <rev11> so i can send the link in pastebin
[11:01] <sethk> rev11, I gave you the url to the pastebin
[11:01] <Mr_Awesome> hi, i just accidentally overwrote .Xauthority, how can i get it back?
[11:01] <sethk> rev11, do you mean how do you paste it to the paste web site?
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> rev11: basically, you copy the contents, and paste it.
[11:02] <JoseStefan> exs, just remember edgy is far from stable, expect crashes and bugs during the development stage
[11:02] <sethk> rev11, you edit it with an editor, and copy and paste it.
[11:02] <chuckyp> JoseStefan: do you know if irssi supports split screening?
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> rev11: if you cannot open up a browser, join #flood and paste it in there.
[11:02] <exs> JoseStefan:  this is why I use 6.06
[11:02] <rev11> im installing ubuntu theres no interface,
[11:02] <chuckyp> JoseStefan: the man pages aren't very well documented.
[11:02] <sethk> rev11, no, don't paste it here
[11:02] <sethk> rev11 paste it to #flood
[11:02] <rev11> its on the other computer
[11:02] <ChaosFan> chuckyp: irssi does
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> chuckyp: yes, it does /help windows -- and ask in #irssi
[11:02] <sethk> fyrestrtr, that's what #flood is for
[11:02] <exs> JoseStefan:  and install on different partition
[11:02] <Mr_Awesome> anyone know how i can restore .Xauthority ?
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> sethk: that's what I told him to go to :)
[11:03] <ChaosFan> chuckyp: http://f0rked.com/articles/irssisplit
[11:03] <aalex> In the installer, I have an error when I choose start or install : Error reading boot CD. Should I burn it again ?
[11:03] <sethk> fyrestrtr, oh, ok, I must have missed that part  :)
[11:03] <sethk> aalex, worth a try.  did you choose the 'verify cd' thing (might be validate, words to that effect)
[11:04] <rev11> its on the computer im trying to install, so theres o way for me to do such i thing
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> rev11: what irc client are you using?
[11:04] <HeXiOn> hello
[11:04] <aalex> sethk, checking cd for defects
[11:04] <sethk> aalex, also do an md5sum on the downloaded image and make sure it matches the posted md5sum for the iso image on the download site
[11:04] <JJzD> aalex: did you check your download with md5?
[11:04] <sethk> aalex, right.  did it pass that?
[11:04] <_doomer_> dont burn faster then 8x
[11:04] <aalex> sethk, no, error reading CD
[11:04] <Mr_Awesome> hmm, im no longer able to open many applications, can anyone help me out? i need to restore .Xauthority
[11:04] <sethk> aalex, ok, in that case, burn again
[11:04] <aalex> JJzD, no. Ah, thats why there are md5....
[11:04] <sethk> aalex, that can't be caused by a download failure, only by a burn failure
[11:05] <aalex> sethk, i have a gentoo cd nearby.... and i erased mu iso image of ubuntu.... hmmm
[11:05] <aalex> sethk, yeah, thats what i thought
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> Mr_Awesome: ctrl+alt+f1, login, then sudo -i, then type /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then type rm /home/yourlogin/.Xauthority -- then type /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:05] <HeXiOn> I have frecuently freezes on dapper... it's because the SATA module (crashes when using archives on SATA drive). What can I do? How can I compile more up-to-dated SATA modules to probe it???? I use sata_uli module. PLEASE HELP! :(
[11:05] <sethk> aalex, can't see how the gentoo image will help you.
[11:05] <Mr_Awesome> fyrestrtr: thank you
[11:06] <sethk> HeXiOn, you can download the latest kernel from kernel.org.  Odds of it fixing the problem are low, but not zero.
[11:06] <nownott> fyrestrtr: is there a way to have different resolution on different workspaces
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> nownott: no.
[11:06] <HeXiOn> sethk, I have compiled 2.17 many times but I have no wireless and no sata
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> HeXiOn: must not be compiling it with the right modules. Are you following the wiki when compiling?
[11:06] <sethk> HeXiOn, I'm not sure what you mean.  you mean you didn't turn them on in the kernel configuration?
[11:07] <nownott> fyrestrtr: 1024x768 works perfect 1280x1024 gives me problems but both work in windows
[11:07] <sethk> nownott, likely the vertical frequency is off.  if it's an lcd set the vertical to 60hz for the 1280x1024
[11:07] <rev11> ugh
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> nownott: hrmm ... I don't know what to tell you, could just be incomplete driver support for your chipset, or that your monitor isn't configured correctly.
[11:07] <rev11> where can i get the olod versions
[11:07] <HeXiOn> sethk: I mean I don't know how to get work my wireless and my SATA when compiling myself the kernel.. I just did it 2 times following a how-to
[11:08] <rev11> ill try that breezy for the time being
[11:08] <sethk> HeXiOn, are you starting with   make xconfig
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> rev11: that won't help.
[11:08] <HeXiOn> fyrestrtr: I follow how-to's in ubuntuforums
[11:08] <rev11> why not
[11:08] <HeXiOn> sethk: yes, I do
[11:08] <rev11> apparantly this xorg is a problem
[11:08] <HeXiOn> sethk: but don't know many options
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> because your problem is not with xorg, its with your configuration of it.
[11:08] <sethk> HeXiOn, do you know what your SATA chipset is?
[11:08] <HeXiOn> sethk: sata_uli
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> rev11: just answer a question, what irc client are you using? irssi?
[11:08] <rev11> mirc
[11:08] <chaosphilipp> has anyone got a little bit of time for me, might be helpful to deal it in a private chat
[11:09] <sethk> HeXiOn, that's a kernel module name, not a chipset
[11:09] <rev11> and like i said its not this comp
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> you are on Windows?
[11:09] <nownott> i have the option in xorg.conf horizsync and vertrefresh
[11:09] <shut-> i need a 32bit java where can i get this?
[11:09] <HeXiOn> sethk: sorry.. 1 moment and I tell you
[11:09] <sethk> HeXiOn, use lspci, find the SATA chipset
[11:09] <rev11> yes, im installing ubuntu on onther comp
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> rev11: how are you running commands on the other machine? Via a shell?
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> rev11: is the network working on that machine?
[11:09] <HeXiOn> sethk: ULI M1689
[11:09] <rev11> yea
[11:09] <JJzD> chaosphilipp: don't know if i can help but i can try.....
[11:09] <chuckyp> One more question for you all.  Wondering how to change the number of shells started on boot?
[11:09] <rev11> works fine
[11:09] <rev11> like i can apt get and stuff apparantloy
[11:09] <rev11> so
[11:09] <HeXiOn> sethk: mobo is an ASROCK 939A8X-M
[11:10] <rev11> if there is a way to upload
[11:10] <nownott> sethk: i have the option in xorg.conf horizsync and vertrefresh
[11:10] <sethk> nownott, use the middle difficulty option where you specify something X something @ something (say 1280x1024@60hz), _not_ the option where you enter frequencies
[11:10] <rev11> im all for it
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> rev11: install openssh-server -- then install putty on your Windows box, then login via putty, and then copy and paste the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to the pastebin site.
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> rev11: in putty, to copy something you just highlight it with your mouse.
[11:10] <HeXiOn> sethk: lsmod | grep ata
[11:10] <HeXiOn> sata_uli                7940  7
[11:10] <HeXiOn> libata                 84176  1 sata_uli
[11:10] <HeXiOn> scsi_mod              145736  3 sg,sd_mod,libata
[11:10] <sethk> HeXiOn, ok.  did you find that chipset referenced in the sata driver in the kernel config?
[11:10] <Naik0> Please, how do i get my icons back on desktop?
[11:10] <rev11> ok, sounds like a plan
[11:10] <rev11> ill do that now
[11:10] <sethk> HeXiOn, you are just telling us the modules that don't work.
[11:10] <Naik0> Home and trash for example
[11:10] <HeXiOn> no, I didn't.. I'm newbie in compiling kernel
[11:11] <sethk> HeXiOn, that doesn't help. step one is to make sure that this driver is correct for this chipset
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> !kernel
[11:11] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:11] <sethk> HeXiOn, probaby it is, but step one is still to check
[11:11] <HeXiOn> sethk: I think it is... I am having kernel freezes many times a day... and always when using SATA
[11:11] <sethk> HeXiOn, what kernel version are you building?
[11:11] <rev11> im sorry, how would i do the ssh serv,
[11:11] <sethk> HeXiOn, the freezing kernel would suggest that it's wrong, not that it's right.
[11:11] <sethk> HeXiOn, what kernel version are you building?
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> rev11: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:12] <HeXiOn> sethk: I tried 2.6.17.11
[11:12] <HeXiOn> sethk: now I have 2.6.15-26-k7
[11:12] <rahsputin> hi
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> rev11: it starts up by itself, then from your Windows box, when you get putty -- give it the IP address of your linux box as the server address.
[11:12] <sethk> HeXiOn, not going to find a newer one than that.  Are there any messages in the log files after you experience the freeze?
[11:12] <rev11> k
[11:12] <rahsputin> does anybody know a way to convert .swf to .avi
[11:12] <Ayabara> I have an external western digital drive that has a 'smart power' feature. it shuts down when I shut down the computer or ejects it in windows. In ubuntu I can eject the disk, but it doesn't turn off when I do
[11:12] <matthewf> ok so i still cant get X working right
[11:12] <HeXiOn> sethk: I tried to find messages but no luck...
[11:12] <shut-> where can i get a 32bit java install?
[11:13] <HeXiOn> sethk: supposely it's in /var/logs/kernel, isn't it?
[11:13] <sethk> HeXiOn, I have seen this problem, although with a different chipset
[11:13] <sethk> HeXiOn, no
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> shut-: read the wiki?
[11:13] <chaosphilipp> JJzD: did you get my messages?
[11:13] <sethk> HeXiOn, /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog are the two most likely
[11:13] <djm62> could anyone help me with troubleshooting cd burning on my new acer laptop?  I want to waste as few CDs as possible
[11:13] <matthewf> and i am realy close to throwing in the towel as far as Ubtunu is concerned
[11:13] <rev11> ok now, is there a command to get the ip
[11:13] <HeXiOn> sethk: I'm seeing it... I have to read last lines, don't I?
[11:13] <rev11> local
[11:13] <sethk> HeXiOn, do    ls -ltr /var/log      which will print the names of files in /var/log in reverse time order.  the newest file is the one that may have messages)
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> rev11: ifconfig -a
[11:13] <sethk> HeXiOn, yes
[11:14] <tave11> how can I prevent pan newsreader from hanging after downloading a lot of headers?
[11:14] <lotusleaf> tave11: you sure it isn't sorting them?
[11:14] <sethk> HeXiOn, it's a hard freeze, you can't use the keyboard, the caps light doesn't turn on and off, and you can't ssh into the machine from your network?
[11:14] <HeXiOn> sethk: syslog, messages, or kern.log?
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> tave11: [a]  reduce the number of headers downloaded at once [b]  check disk space [c]  check ram [d]  disable sorting
[11:14] <djm62> matthewf: have you tried putting a question up on the forums?  the odds are better of it being seen by someone who knows what to do for your particular problem
[11:14] <HeXiOn> sethk: that's exactly... I can't even manage keyboard leds
[11:15] <rev11> ok it says login as
[11:15] <tave11> wow your quick I'll check on sorting brb
[11:15] <sethk> HeXiOn, whichever one most recently changed.  When the system freezes, the only place where you may get lucky and find a message is in the most recently changed log file
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> rev11: type your username
[11:15] <rev11> well
[11:15] <rev11> i dont have one yet
[11:15] <sethk> HeXiOn, and you can't ping it from your network?  that is, you have a set up where you can try that?
[11:15] <matthewf> djm62: yes i have, and ive seen a fair few other people haveing the same problem, but nonone has any answers
[11:15] <Flannel> rev11: youdon't have a useaccount on the box yet?
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> what do you mean? What login name do you use at the ubuntu box?
[11:15] <rev11> its a fresh install.
[11:15] <HeXiOn> seth: I can't use the system in any way.. just reboot manually
[11:15] <HeXiOn> sethK: I can't use the system in any way.. just reboot manually
[11:16] <Flannel> rev11: didn't you make a user during the install process?
[11:16] <sethk> djm62, try the cdwrite mailing list archives
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> rev11: you must have a login name, you can't use the system without one, and you can't finish the install without one.
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> rev11: type 'whoami' and find out what you username is.
[11:16] <djm62> sethk: is that an ubuntu one?
[11:16] <rev11> its just ubuntu
[11:16] <sethk> HeXiOn, yes, I understand.  I'm asking whether there is a network, and you try to ping it, and the ping fails, or, you don't have another machine on the same network and so you don't know what would happen if you were to ping it.
[11:16] <rev11> as the nam
[11:16] <rev11> let me try that
[11:16] <HeXiOn> sethk: how can I search interesting lines in /var/log/syslog ?
[11:17] <sethk> djm62, linux in general, in fact, unix in general, but there is nothing ubuntu specific about cd burning
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> are ... you ... on ... the ... live ... cd?!
[11:17] <rev11> !! i said that bfore im installing a fresh copy from the cd!
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i said that bfore im installing a fresh copy from the cd! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <sethk> HeXiOn, bring up the file in a text editor, go to the end, and look at the most recent messages
[11:17] <HeXiOn> sethk: I don't have any other machines.. can't ping when this is freezed
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> rev11: you haven't finished installing yet?
[11:17] <matthewf> X is seriously broken for me under ubuntu and as it stands there is no soloution to the problem
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> matthewf: file a bug.
[11:17] <sethk> HeXiOn, ok.  that would be a good data point, but if we don't know, then we don't know.
[11:17] <ckrueger> anyone here using edgy?
[11:18] <tave11> alright here comes the dumb question.... is there an actually check box to disable sorting?
[11:18] <ckrueger> because out-of-the-box, gnome-terminal is totally borked
[11:18] <Flannel> ckrueger: #ubuntu+1 has people using edgy
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> ckrueger: no, but plenty of folks in #ubuntu+1 do.
[11:18] <ckrueger> sounds good, thanks
[11:18] <rev11> noooo, thats the problem when it finishes mounting and all the auto stuff, it gives me the xserver xorg error
[11:18] <HeXiOn> sethk: I only see lines of current boot... such as fglrx initialization and so
[11:18] <djm62> sethk: I know that CD burning isn't distro specific, OTOH I'd like a fix that works on ubuntu and is preserved through updates etc, and preferably one which works ootb for someone installing the next release on ubuntu on this laptop
[11:18] <sethk> HeXiOn, try going into your BIOS (when you boot the machine).  If PnP o/s is on, turn it off.  if PnP o/s is off, turn it on.
[11:18] <JoseStefan> matthewf, did you try removing X and re-installing it ?
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> rev11: oh geez. Are you saying that the problem is during installation?
[11:18] <tizwonder> ahhh ubuntu has become easier to install than windows, what has happened to *nix!!!
[11:18] <sethk> HeXiOn, that will change the order in which IRQs are assigned, which sometimes helps this sort of situation.
[11:18] <rev11> yessss
[11:18] <rev11> :(
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> oh my .........
[11:19] <rev11> theres so much goin on in this chat
[11:19] <rev11> hah
[11:19] <rev11> its real confsing
[11:19] <sethk> HeXiOn, unfortunately we don't have a lot of data so the best we can do is try things and hope we change the behavior and get a clue.
[11:19] <matthewf> JoseStefan: ive tryed rinstalling the whole distro.. amongst other things
[11:19] <HeXiOn> sethk: the fact is I only have this problem since dapper... I don't think it's bios setting.. but I can try
[11:19] <aburton> so I'm trying to get audio for my msi k8n neo4 platinum working
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> okay -- that's it, I gotta to go to bed ... waaayyy past my bed time.
[11:19] <aburton> it's onboard 7.1 audio
[11:19] <rev11> hah
[11:19] <sethk> HeXiOn, I'm not saying the bios setting is wrong
[11:19] <npster> Hello!
[11:19] <rev11> thanks for the help anyway
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> @time Asia/Kuwait
[11:19] <Ubugtu> Current time in Asia/Kuwait: September 03 2006, 00:19:47
[11:19] <aburton> check this out- it's my loaded modules
[11:19] <aburton> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22361
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> yeah, waaay past my bedtime.
[11:19] <rev11> so thers nothing i can do?
[11:19] <sethk> HeXiOn, neither setting is wrong.  It changes the order in which IRQs are assigned, which may change the behavior and give us a clue.
[11:20] <tave11> alright here comes the dumb question.... is there an actually check box to disable sorting in pan?
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> rev11: yes, there is plenty more you can do. I thought you had an installed system.
[11:20] <sethk> HeXiOn, however, the answer is obvious.  Do what I am doing, run breezy
[11:20] <rev11> shucks.
[11:20] <HeXiOn> sethk: I think a good idea is trying to compile a new kernel with SATA support, but I don't know how to
[11:20] <ACU> greetings and questions! What other applications for Net (Web) meeting are out there for linux except Gnome Meeting?
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> rev11: someone else will help you out. Make you you tell them the problem is during installation.
[11:20] <npster> Is there something as a Voice Reconditioning in Ubuntu ?
[11:20] <factotum> im still trying to figure out why pan need mozilla to be installed as a dep
[11:20] <rev11> ok thanks for the help bro.
[11:20] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to change the number of text terminals started on boot?
[11:20] <sethk> HeXiOn, you don't know where the SATA drivers are selected in   make xconfig    you mean?
[11:20] <HeXiOn> sethk: yes
[11:20] <djm62> npster: what is a Voice Reconditioning?
[11:20] <sethk> HeXiOn, I'll look
[11:21] <sethk> djm62, that's what Michael Jackson does to try and sound human
[11:21] <nownott> sethk: ive been looking on how to do that but im confused w/ the 1280x1024@60, dont know how to put that in xorg.conf
[11:21] <npster> djm62: It is a way when you speak to the system and it recognises your voice and responds to it
[11:21] <boricua> !skype
[11:21] <HeXiOn> sethk: first of all... thanks a lot for your support :) I'm having this problem many weeks and nobody helped me till now :)
[11:21] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:22] <aburton> !alsa
[11:22] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:22] <sethk> nownott, run dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg.  don't try to edit xorg.conf
[11:22] <JJzD> chaosphilipp: sorry, i missed your message because privates are blocked here
[11:22] <axisys> !gizmoproject
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmoproject - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <sethk> HeXiOn, It's in SCSI device support/SCSI low-level drivers
[11:22] <kyle_> nick iiii_
[11:22] <rev11> alright. can anyone help me. im trying to install a fresh copy of ubuntu 6.06 off the CD, and after it loads and such i get the xorg xserver error that is on the site. please help me
[11:23] <sethk> rev11, on what site?  you pasted it?
[11:23] <axisys> rev11: try to run dpkg-reconfigure xerserver-xorg
[11:23] <djm62> npster: looks not hopeful
[11:23] <rev11> no, that errior thats on the main ubuntu site. its not even installed yet
[11:23] <HeXiOn> sethk: and to make my wireless work without ndiswrapper? I think I have to patch kernel or so... do you know how?
[11:23] <rev11> tried that already
[11:23] <rev11> doesnt work
[11:23] <ryanakca> does anyone have a link to a page with linux wireless drivers? (no, I'm not looking to install threw apt)
[11:23] <sethk> HeXiOn, no, I don't have much experience with ndiswrapper.  I do with sata, but not with ndis, sorry
[11:23] <djm62> npster: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/voice-recognition
[11:24] <npster> djm62: I found one on source fordge
[11:24] <sethk> rev11, "doesn't work" isn't helpful.  what happens
[11:24] <chaosphilipp> JJzD: have you got ICQ?
[11:24] <axisys> rev11: what error message u get?
[11:24] <HeXiOn> sethk: I reffer on compiling kernel with wireless support
[11:24] <rev11> its loadin up now, 1 sec
[11:24] <sethk> HeXiOn, I can tell you where to turn on wireless ethernet, if that's what you mean?
[11:24] <HeXiOn> sethk: I don't know if this can't be done without restricted-drivers package
[11:24] <Byan> how do I change a folder, so everyone has full rights to it?
[11:24] <HeXiOn> sethk: yes :)
[11:24] <djm62> npster: if you need it to rely on, it looks not good.  If you want to mess about with speech recognition, there's plenty
[11:25] <sethk> HeXiOn, restricted drivers is irrelevant when using a kernel from kernel.org
[11:25] <chaosphilipp> NthDegree: are you still there?
[11:25] <boricua> is there a skype or ekiga tutorial in ubuntu?
[11:25] <NthDegree> yeah
[11:25] <HeXiOn> sethk: I think my module is acs
[11:25] <chaosphilipp> did YOU get my messages?
[11:25] <HeXiOn> sethk: acx I meant
[11:25] <NthDegree> sorry was looking the in another channel
[11:25] <NthDegree> no
[11:25] <sethk> HeXiOn, wireless ethernet is in:   Device Drivers/Network device support/Wireless LAN (non-hamradio)
[11:25] <NthDegree> for some reason i didn't
[11:26] <chaosphilipp> hmmmm....have you got icq or aim?
[11:26] <npster> I got perlbox-voice
[11:26] <tave11> alright here comes the dumb question.... is there an actually check box to disable sorting in pan?
[11:26] <sethk> npster, I hope it isn't contagious
[11:26] <rev11> Failed to start the X server, not set up blah blah. hit ok then says things and then command prompt
[11:26] <NthDegree> chaosphilipp, not yet but i can register for an account if you like :)
[11:26] <rev11> no screens found
[11:26] <rev11> apparantly
[11:26] <sethk> rev11, no, what is the error when you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:27] <chaosphilipp> that'd be great........pondering about another possibility
[11:27] <HeXiOn> sethk: Ok, and I think I have to go that menu with xconfig and find my "module" name... don't I? Or I have to enable all options? (I know this is a very newbie answer but I have many doubts :)  )
[11:27] <ryanakca> does anyone have a link to a page with linux wireless drivers? (no, I'm not looking to install threw apt)
[11:27] <sethk> HeXiOn, there is a default set of enabled options.  You go through the configuration and turn on those you need that aren't on by default
[11:28] <NthDegree> chaosphilipp, i'll grab an AIM account quickly
[11:28] <sethk> HeXiOn, if I understood your question correctly
[11:28] <rev11> xserver-xorg postinst warning:overwriting possibly custom config  file; backup in blah blah
[11:28] <rev11> then command line
[11:28] <chaosphilipp> OK
[11:28] <kaymann> I was not able to run the Live-CD for Ubuntu Edgy Eft Knot 2. I got an error pertaining to MM something BIOS. Is this known? I have a Toshiba U205 laptop.
[11:28] <sethk> rev11, that's not an error
[11:28] <rev11> alright then
[11:28] <rev11> now
[11:28] <rev11> where from here
[11:29] <HeXiOn> sethk: yes, I know... I compiled the kernel 2 times already.. what I mean is that, to enable my sata (in example), I have to go where you told me.. and then? search for my module name (in example, some text talking about uli), or what do I have to do?
[11:29] <sethk> rev11, you go completely through the entire procedure, it identifies your graphics card and monitor, and completes?
[11:29] <JoseStefan> kaymann, #ubuntu+1 is for edgy
[11:29] <kaymann> Oh I'm sorry.
[11:29] <rev11> it stops at the color selection when i hit ok on the option
[11:29] <kaymann> Is this for Dapper?
[11:29] <rev11> and then command line
[11:29] <HeXiOn> sethk: sorry if you can't understand me, my english isn't perfect at all :)
[11:29] <sethk> HeXiOn, you are thinking backwards.  You find your hardware and enable it.  The module name is usually in the help section, but it isn't what you should be looking at/for
[11:29] <JoseStefan> kaymann, #ubuntu is for stable releases
[11:29] <nownott> sethk: thanks the resolution i should of been using was found it was 1400x1050 or 1280.960
[11:30] <HeXiOn> sethk: that's what I want to know... what exactly do I have to look at... "ali" text? "sata" text?
[11:30] <bluefusionxl> Hi!  How do I start Ubuntu in command mode at boot?
[11:30] <kaymann> Ah, ok, thank you. Is it difficult to get Suspend to work on my laptop? I have Ubuntu 6.06, but I cannot revive from suspend. Only hibernate works.
[11:30] <ormandj> hi, i've got a linux software raid (raid 5 w/ xfs filesystem on 5 250gib drives) and my OS drive just died, i need to reinstall ubuntu. will i need to do anything special to preserve the raid or will it automatically be detected/setup?
[11:30] <bluefusionxl> I am turning that PC into a server so I do not want the display manager consuming my resources
[11:30] <HeXiOn> sethk: my chipset code?
[11:31] <rev11> i mean i dont know if its suppoosed to pass the color selection, or am i supposed to tyhpe something at the command line after it
[11:31] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, you should could edit your init scripts
[11:31] <bluefusionxl> which ones and what lines?
[11:31] <natrixgli> can someone take a look at this log? my server keeps dying... ;) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22300
[11:31] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, the display manager doesnt consume that much when not in use
[11:32] <bluefusionxl> i know but it is a risk of locking up
[11:32] <rev11> did ya give up n me seth
[11:32] <rev11> :P
[11:32] <rev11> hah
[11:32] <illusia-ru> how do i format unnalocated space into reiserfs and mount as SWAP?
[11:32] <bluefusionxl> is there not like a command call i can use to disable it?
[11:32] <NthDegree> chaosphilipp, almost registered
[11:33] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, you'll want to stop gdm from starting by editing your init scripts
[11:33] <axisys> rev11: u could just hit OK to take all default
[11:33] <bluefusionxl> where are the init scripts?
[11:33] <NthDegree> chaosphilipp, add NthDegreeM
[11:33] <chaosphilipp> kk
[11:33] <illusia-ru> how do i format unnalocated space into reiserfs and mount as SWAP????
[11:33] <jihi> hi
[11:33] <axisys> bluefusionxl: /etc/init.d
[11:34] <axisys> bluefusionxl: ls -al /etc/init.d
[11:34] <NthDegree> illusia-ru, you format as SWAP and mount as SWAP
[11:34] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, you'll want the symblic links in /etc/rc2.d/
[11:34] <jihi> i have installed xubuntu-desktop for testing, and now i want to uninstall all components, but how ?
[11:34] <tuxtux> notte
[11:34] <NthDegree> illusia-ru, mkswapfs /dev/foo  <----- example
[11:34] <illusia-ru> NthDegree how can i do it?Fdisk os you know some better command?
[11:35] <illusia-ru> NthDegree thx
[11:35] <rev11> so how do i start the ubuntu setup again from command after i ran the xserver-xorg config
[11:35] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, you have to rename the symbilic link for GDM, there is a "standard" for that
[11:36] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, man update-rc.d
[11:37] <brian98> Do you have the windows drivers for the wireless card?
[11:37] <brian98> I am very lagged :(
[11:37] <aburton> sound help? please? I'm so lost
[11:37] <shoeunited> Hi. :)
[11:37] <gubuntu> can someone hlep me? my ubuntu live cd installer wont resize my windows partition. :(
[11:38] <rev11> so how do i start the ubuntu setup again from command after i ran the xserver-xorg config, does anyone know?
[11:38] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, ok i got it, you need to rename all gdm instances in /etc/rc?.d/ from S to K
[11:39] <axisys> rev11: /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:39] <ShoeUnited> When I try to run WoW, it restarts X I have an nVidia GeForce4 MX 4000
[11:39] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, removing them is a mistake as an update will just add them again, renaming also allows you to undo the chages
[11:39] <axisys> aburton: did u follow the alsa link?
[11:39] <ShoeUnited> I think I set something wrong in the video drivers.
[11:40] <rev11> hey look, it failed, what do you know
[11:40] <Jamminpotato> there is a program i have in ubuntu called volume control, but i can't figure out its package name to run it from the terminal, how can i find out waht it is
[11:40] <rev11> what the hell am i supposed to do about that
[11:40] <MAXDDARK> hello just - first time here
[11:40] <axisys> post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log in pastebin
[11:41] <Ayabara> is there a desktop search tool available for linux? like google desktop search?
[11:41] <brian98> Ok, I am now a wireless networking in ubuntu expert ;)
[11:41] <rev11> im running the intall on a seperate computer.
[11:41] <brian98> hahaha
[11:41] <brian98> Now
[11:41] <axisys> Ayabara: u r using ubuntu?
[11:41] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, got all that?
[11:41] <brian98> I asked earlier
[11:41] <aburton> axisys: you mean !alsa?
[11:41] <Ayabara> axisys: yes
[11:41] <NthDegree> Ayabara, try using Places > Search For Files
[11:41] <aburton> !alsa
[11:41] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:41] <axisys> Ayabara: u should have a search applet on the top
[11:41] <rev11> does ubuntu always suck
[11:42] <ShoeUnited> !nvidia
[11:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:42] <tizwonder> lol
[11:42] <axisys> aburton: yes
[11:42] <gubuntu> What would be my next step to take if ubuntu wont resize my windows partition to install?
[11:42] <aburton> axisys: yes
[11:42] <NthDegree> gubuntu, use a partitioner like partition magic
[11:42] <axisys> aburton: u get no sound after u follow that?
[11:42] <gubuntu> nthdegree, under windows?
[11:42] <tizwonder> does anyone here know any good system monitors that will display on gnome gui in the background?
[11:42] <aburton> axisys: I'm not sure I follow it
[11:42] <NthDegree> NOTE: partition magic is sold for money it is NON FREE as in YOU PAY FOR IT :(
[11:42] <aburton> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Live+7.1.&chip=SB0410%2C+P17&module=ca0106
[11:43] <aburton> I have soundcore installed
[11:43] <aburton> so I'm not sure which steps I can skip
[11:43] <NthDegree> gubuntu, it's a CD you can either boot it or install the software into windows yes
[11:43] <Ayabara> axisys: added it now. what I wondered about though, was an app that indexes web history, mail and files like googled desktop does. not sure I need it, but was just wondering :-)
[11:43] <axisys> aburton: do u have a volume icon on top left?
[11:43] <gubuntu> nthdegree, ty
[11:43] <kozmic> when you set a wallpaper in firefox, the image is saved to your home catalog. can this be awoided?
[11:43] <NthDegree> gubuntu, in your case you'd need to boot the partition magic CD
[11:43] <aburton> axisys: yes
[11:43] <axisys> Ayabara: u could install beagle
[11:43] <illusia-ru> fdisk don`t show unnalocated space in my HDD and i don`t know which /dev/hda* i need.How can i find it?
[11:44] <illusia-ru> NthDegree can you help me?
[11:44] <axisys> aburton: right click and go to pref
[11:44] <rev11> where can i get the older version of ubuntu
[11:44] <nickv111> Has anyone here gotten the ATi Radeon Xpress 1100 working with DRI?
[11:44] <aburton> I'm there
[11:44] <axisys> aburton: what device it shows?
[11:44] <Ayabara> axisys: thanks. it's a summer of code project I see :-)
[11:44] <NthDegree> illusia-ru, try installing gparted
[11:44] <minerale> where does GDM keep it's session info files?
[11:45] <NthDegree> that is graphical and should be more help
[11:45] <aburton> axisys: NVidia CK804
[11:45] <illusia-ru> NthDegree but how without gParted?
[11:45] <axisys> Ayabara: its pretty good.. ubuntu wiki has steps on how to install beagle
[11:45] <bluefusionxl> hmm
[11:45] <axisys> Ayabara: i think
[11:45] <psusi> fdisk shows how big the drive is, and what space is allocated, so you should be able to see how much is left... but yea, gparted is easier
[11:45] <bluefusionxl> I did the  /etc/init.d/gdm stop command
[11:45] <bluefusionxl> and when i restarted
[11:45] <NthDegree> illusia-ru, try running parted
[11:45] <bluefusionxl> it was there again
[11:45] <axisys> aburton: do u have anything else
[11:45] <aburton> axisys: but I was pretty sure the onboard sound was soundblaster live 7.1
[11:45] <bluefusionxl> and it never closed
[11:45] <bluefusionxl> when i did it from shell
[11:45] <NthDegree> that will give you an easier time seeing what one you want to format
[11:45] <bluefusionxl> on putty
[11:46] <sris> Hey again, i'm having almost the exact same problem described here, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/10661 , but i can still boot windows if i change that drive to the primary boot device in BIOS. anyone familiar with this problem?
[11:46] <sris> And, i've got windows and ubuntu on seperate drives
[11:46] <bluefusionxl> ok, how do I disable gnome from starting up on boot
[11:47] <bluefusionxl> i want to boot into bash shell
[11:47] <aburton> axisys: realtek 850 rev 0 OSS
[11:47] <axisys> aburton: pick n try
[11:47] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, you need to rename all gdm instances in /etc/rc?.d/ from S to K
[11:47] <kaymann> Is there any way I can get suspend to work on my Toshiba U205?
[11:47] <axisys> aburton: one of them will probably the right one.. the working one
[11:47] <NthDegree> bluefusionxl, try renaming /etc/init.d/gdm
[11:47] <illusia-ru> NthDegree parted show same as fdisk :(
[11:47] <aburton> axisys: I get sound
[11:48] <NthDegree> bluefusionxl, try mv /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/init.d/gdm.disabled
[11:48] <aburton> axisys: but only from one port on my motherboard
[11:48] <NthDegree> then restart the PC and see
[11:48] <axisys> bluefusionxl: u can go to system -> administration -> services and disable there
[11:48] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, dont rename anything on /etc/init.d/ that can break updates
[11:48] <NthDegree> illusia-ru, install gparted and resize a partition if you have problems
[11:48] <yango> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/
[11:48] <yango> mount: only root can do that
[11:48] <yango> why?
[11:48] <bluefusionxl> Jose what do you suppose I do
[11:48] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, use the symbolic links in /etc/rc?d/ instead
[11:49] <illusia-ru> yango put sudo before
[11:49] <sethk> yango, that's the way all operating systems behave
[11:49] <psusi> yango, because only root can mount new filesystems
[11:49] <bluefusionxl> what do I need to type?
[11:49] <yango> and how do KDE/Gnome do it if they don't ask me for a passwd?
[11:49] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, you need to rename all "gdm" instances in /etc/rc?.d/ from S to K
[11:49] <aburton> axisys:  I have settings for Surround Jack Mode, IEC 958 and Mono Output Select
[11:49] <yango> psusi: then KDE/Gnome use setuid root programs to do it?
[11:49] <illusia-ru> NthDegree ok,but is not the right way :(
[11:49] <psusi> yango, yea
[11:49] <sethk> yango, the mounting program runs with root privileges
[11:49] <phiber_optic> was gtk-gnutella on dapper erased??
[11:49] <axisys> aburton: u can double left click the volume icon and then file -> change device
[11:50] <axisys> see which one gives u better sound
[11:50] <NthDegree> illusia-ru, gparted can do the same as fdisk but makes life easy
[11:50] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, example: /etc/rc2.d/S13gd --> /etc/rc2.d/K13gd
[11:50] <JoseStefan> gdm*
[11:50] <sethk> NthDegree, to me it makes life hard.  I guess it depends on what you are used to.
[11:50] <mary> I just installed ubuntu 6.06 and then used automatix to get dvd playback (explained on lifehacker hints) but when I tested it with shreck2 the playback is oversaturated (it is using totem)
[11:51] <phiber_optic> what other program to download stuff is good apart from frostwire
[11:51] <illusia-ru> NthDegree i know about gparted,but maybe i just can`t understand fdisk or parted :(
[11:51] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, basicly "cd" into each of the rc?.d directories, and "ls *gdm*", then rename the files so they start with a K instead of S
[11:51] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, the gdm files
[11:51] <bronze> towersoft: whats the issue?
[11:51] <NthDegree> illusia-ru, fdisk only allows you to add and delete partitions and things
[11:52] <bluefusionxl> ok
[11:52] <aburton> axisys: they give me identical sound
[11:52] <NthDegree> illusia-ru, parted can resize but is a lot harder to do that with
[11:52] <bluefusionxl> there is one file containing gdm
[11:52] <bluefusionxl> and its already k
[11:52] <NthDegree> illusia-ru, gparted is easy as anything to use
[11:52] <bluefusionxl> K01gdm
[11:52] <bluefusionxl> bfusionx@bfx11:/etc/rc0.d$
[11:52] <aburton> axisys: how do I know if I have the right driver installed?
[11:52] <sethk> bluefusionxl, what are you trying to do?
[11:52] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, check each ALL of the rc?.d directories
[11:52] <printk> woo hoo my free ubuntu dvds just came in
[11:53] <axisys> aburton: lspci | grep audio
[11:53] <bluefusionxl> i typed in /etc/rc?.d adn it took me to rc0.d
[11:53] <bluefusionxl> and i found that file
[11:53] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, in /etc do an "ls rc?.d"
[11:53] <psusi> bluefusionxl, the ? character is a wildcard... it means rc(anything goes here).d
[11:53] <aburton> axisys:  0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[11:53] <sethk> bluefusionxl, what are you trying to do?
[11:54] <bluefusionxl> do i need to go in /etc/ and type ls *rc*
[11:54] <bluefusionxl> disable gnome from starting up on boot
[11:54] <psusi> bluefusionxl, there are several directories with sequential numbers in place of the ?
[11:54] <bluefusionxl> i want shell to show up when i boot
[11:54] <sethk> bluefusionxl, that's not the right way to do it
[11:54] <marcus> hello?
[11:54] <bronze> bluefusionxl: set your init runlevel to 2 or 3
[11:54] <illusia-ru> NthDegree gparted can`t make partition.He says what can`t make more then 4 partitions :(
[11:54] <sethk> bluefusionxl, all you do is edit /etc/inittab, and change the default run level to 1
[11:54] <bronze> bluefusionxl: or do you mean single user?
[11:54] <axisys> aburton: so pick that
[11:54] <sethk> bronze, in ubuntu levels 2 and three both include X
[11:54] <psusi> bronze, it already is in ubuntu.. gdm starts up in all runlevels
[11:54] <sethk> bronze, level one is not single user in ubuntu
[11:55] <bluefusionxl> why 1?
[11:55] <codyzapp> hi, what does ubuntu use to install packages. i have a friend that doesnt know how to install java.
[11:55] <psusi> except single user mode of course
[11:55] <sethk> bluefusionxl, because level 1 is normal boot without X
[11:55] <sethk> bluefusionxl, and you want normal boot without x
[11:55] <illusia-ru> NthDegree maybe because of this fdisk and parted don`t show info about unnalocated space?
[11:55] <sethk> bluefusionxl, so you choose level 1
[11:55] <bluefusionxl> ok im gonna try that
[11:55] <axisys> codyzapp: direct him to wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:55] <JoseStefan> sethk, that is not correct
[11:55] <shut-> cody thats me
[11:55] <shut-> :P
[11:55] <axisys> codyzapp: and search for java
[11:55] <sethk> JoseStefan, yes, it is
[11:55] <bluefusionxl> so do i need to do pico /etc/inittab
[11:55] <axisys> !java
[11:55] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:55] <JoseStefan> sethk, some of his other services could require init 2
[11:55] <sethk> JoseStefan, the run levels for ubuntu are not the same as for the other distros
[11:56] <bronze> thats a bad move.
[11:56] <marcus> search for apt :)
[11:56] <sethk> JoseStefan, of course, it could.  Nevertheless, level 1 is intended for normal startup without X
[11:56] <codyzapp> shut, did u see what they said...
[11:56] <bronze> why adopt a non-standard behaivor?  (ubuntu isan't Microsoft after all)
[11:56] <sethk> JoseStefan, if you want to tweak the normal level without X configuraition, of course you can do so.
[11:56] <JoseStefan> sethk, example apache2 starts in init 2
[11:56] <sethk> JoseStefan, so?
[11:56] <bluefusionxl> I'm just running server apps
[11:56] <JoseStefan> sethk, what he just said
[11:57] <bluefusionxl> oh i need apache
[11:57] <sethk> JoseStefan, it surely better to tweak the proper level than to try to turn X off at a different level
[11:57] <JoseStefan> sethk, ^^^
[11:57] <bronze> bluefusionxl: edit inittab and remove X fromn run level 3.
[11:57] <sethk> bluefusionxl, so you add apache to the correct user level
[11:57] <psusi> ohh nice... they fixed it....
[11:57] <Raziekiel> Can anyone provide me with some assistance in installing my nvidia drivers? I followed the instructions on http://ubuntuguide.org, but I got an error
[11:57] <psusi> looks like gdm IS off in runlevel 1
[11:57] <sethk> bluefusionxl, you don't hack up the desktop user level
[11:57] <sethk> psusi, correct
[11:57] <sethk> psusi, that's exactly the point
[11:57] <psusi> didn't used to be that way ;)
[11:57] <axisys> ubotu: tell Raziekiel about nvidia
[11:58] <sethk> psusi, has been since breezy, at least
[11:58] <JoseStefan> sethk, in ubuntu setting appropiate new init levels is time consuming, he can just rename gdm from S to K like recommended by "man update-rc.d"
[11:58] <sethk> JoseStefan, that's incorrect, period
[11:58] <JoseStefan> sethk, thats how "man update-rc.d" says services should be disabled
[11:58] <sethk> JoseStefan, level 2 is intended for desktop with X.
[11:58] <sethk> JoseStefan, the man page tells you how to enable, or disable, any service at any level
[11:59] <sethk> JoseStefan, it does not say anything whatsoever about what should be run at any particular run level
[11:59] <Softimage> can anyone tell if bitchx has a gui type thingy? right now i'm running it from term
[11:59] <HeXiOn> sethk: sorry for answering again... ;)   I am in xconfig..SCSI device support, low-level, SATA support.. and it's all enabled by default, but I didn't get my SATA to work last time
[11:59] <Raziekiel> Thanks axisys
[11:59] <HeXiOn> sethk: am I missing any option?
[11:59] <illusia-ru> how i can know size of any /dev/hda* ?
[11:59] <sethk> HeXiOn, when you say "didn't work", what do you mean?
[11:59] <JoseStefan> sethk, ideally he should move gdm to a higher level, example 3, but that can be more complicated. He simply doesnt want X
[11:59] <sethk> illusia-ru, fdisk -l /dev/hda
[11:59] <axisys> linlin: fdisk -l
[11:59] <axisys> linlin: sorry
[11:59] <sethk> JoseStefan, level 1 is intended for running without X
[12:00] <illusia-ru> sethk doesn`t help
[12:00] <sethk> JoseStefan, if he wants apache, simply add apache to level 1
[12:00] <axisys> illusia-ru: run fdisk -l as root
[12:00] <sethk> JoseStefan, it's the minimal change
[12:00] <HeXiOn> sethk: I mean that after restarting and using that kernel, I cant mount my SATA's partitions
[12:00] <bluefusionxl> can't i just somehow
[12:00] <sethk> illusia-ru, doesn't help in what way?
[12:00] <bluefusionxl> remove gdm from level 2?
[12:00] <sethk> illusia-ru, it tells you the size of each partition.
[12:00] <sris> I'm unable to boot my windows installation after picking it in the grub menu. I get an error "filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7". Windows is installed on a seperate sata drive and ubuntu on an ide drive. I've tried to use the map directive in grub, and i've tried some stuff i got of google to. but nothing works. any ideas?
[12:00] <illusia-ru> axisys, doesn`t help don`t show unnalocated space
[12:00] <illusia-ru> sethk doesn`t help don`t show unnalocated space
[12:00] <sethk> bluefusionxl, sure, if you want to, but it's not the way the configuration is intended to be used
[12:00] <phiber_optic> how can I change how a file opens, all my mp3 are opening with xine
[12:01] <psusi> illusia-ru, it tells you the total space... and the used space.... can you subtract?