[01:51] <lecaros> @seen mhz
[05:49] <Amaranth> well, that was simple
[05:50] <Amaranth> i haven't actually tried running the code yet but i believe i've just switched willowng over to using two separate DBs in about 30 minutes
[05:57] <LaserJock> \o/
[05:57] <LaserJock> !!
[06:03] <Amaranth> now to unfsck the package :)
[06:15] <LaserJock> heh
[06:16] <Amaranth> wow this is a PITA
[06:16] <LaserJock> do you want to include the KDE port in this one?
[06:16] <Amaranth> if you have the patches, sure
[06:16] <LaserJock> do you have an ok package right now or do you still have work to do on it?
[06:17] <Amaranth> i'm working out some problems with the way i setup the config.py file
[06:20] <LaserJock> Amaranth: do you keep the debian/ in your bzr repo?
[06:20] <Amaranth> yeah, want me to push my latest stuff so you can diff it?
[06:21] <LaserJock> yeah, that would be helpful
[06:25] <Amaranth> done
[06:25] <Amaranth> dunno if any of it works yet though :)
[06:29] <LaserJock> well, we'll test it out ;-)
[06:31] <Amaranth> actually i know it doesn't work, setup.py needs more love
[06:43] <Amaranth> brb
[07:56] <LaserJock> Amaranth: doh, I was just leaving. I sent you an email with a URL for my bzr branch
[07:56] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: do you have a couple of sentences for a final SoC report (or a blog post I can look at?)
[07:56] <Amaranth> LaserJock: alright, cool
[07:56] <Amaranth> i finally got suspend to work on edgy :)
[07:56] <Amaranth> had to disable ahci in my bios, damn sata disks
[07:57] <Amaranth> Burgundavia: If you can wait 24 hours I'll have something positive to report. :)
[07:57] <Amaranth> Right now things are....broken. :P
[07:57] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: well, I want to add something to UWN
[07:58] <Amaranth> what's your deadline?
[07:58] <Burgundavia> 1hr
[07:59] <Amaranth> ack
[07:59] <Amaranth> All I really have to report is that until this weekend I've been swamped with school stuff.
[07:59] <Burgundavia> no need for a link, so a quick statement of what you finished
[07:59] <Amaranth> Since last time you asked? Not a thing.
[08:00] <Burgundavia> ok, then no worries
[08:01] <Amaranth> Heh, that's why I said 24 hours. :)
[08:01] <Amaranth> I've got a couple of things going on in bzr and the next package upload will likely have a Qt frontend
[08:02] <Burgundavia> ok, I will get you next week
[11:30] <jpduyx> question, where can i find information to upgrade from Ubuntu Dapper to a Dapper Edubuntu-server that acts as a ltsp server ?
[11:34] <jpduyx> i did apt-get install edubuntu-server, that worked fine, then i i changed the /etc/ltsp/dhcd.conf to my local settings. the thin client gets the network address, so  the dhcp server  works, but it seems there are no ltsp kernels or something like that, i get the error TFTP-Error - File not found
[11:42] <jpduyx> anybody with ideas ? i am now busy to use dpkg-reconfigure --all, just would like to know if that is the preferred way to do this "upgrade"
[11:48] <jpduyx> i couldn't find this information with google also, really nobody tried this, or knows what i am missing ?
[11:49] <lucasvo> !seen p1ps
[11:49] <ubotu> I haven't seen p1ps recently
[11:55] <pygi> morning
[11:59] <jpduyx> morning
[12:16] <pygi> RichEd-1, poke? :)
[12:32] <jpduyx> anybody has any experience upgrading from ubuntu to edubuntu-server ?
[12:38] <jpduyx> okay, i'll try to find out myself, where can i post my information if i can figure it out ? maybe helping others ?
[12:48] <jpduyx> ogra any technical idea's about my questions above? i saw at edubuntu wiki that you are specialised in the technical and general questions concerning edubuntu 
[05:20] <jjjjjjj> anyone home?
[05:20] <jjjjjjj> i have ubuntu 5.10 installed.  i think i can change it to edubuntu via apt-get no?
[05:21] <jjjjjjj> is there an "upgrade" path from ubuntu to edubuntu?
[09:36] <capt_kirk> Hi all.  I have a newbie question about GDM login under LTSP.  Is this the right place to ask?
[09:38] <Burgundavia> yes, but Edubuntu doesn
[09:38] <Burgundavia> 't use GDM
[09:39] <capt_kirk> ahh.  thanks.  here's the problem I'm having: the thin clients always boot correctly and bring up the Ubuntu splash, but..
[09:39] <capt_kirk> when they get to the login, sometimes they fail to go to the graphical login
[09:40] <capt_kirk> if i reboot the server, they will go to the graphical login again and all is good
[09:40] <capt_kirk> at the tty login, i obviously can't login since i'm not ssh'ing to the server at that point.
[09:40] <capt_kirk> i've googled for a couple of hours, but couldn't find anyone asking about a similar problem
[09:41] <capt_kirk> has anyone seen the thin clients and or server "forget" how to do thin client login after the server is running for an hour or two?
[09:42] <capt_kirk> it seems like there is a timer that is expiring, but I can't imagine what it is.
[09:42] <Burgundavia> hmm, I have never installed a thin client lab, so I cannot hel you there
[09:42] <capt_kirk> even when the logins fail, the thin client is getting an IP from dhcpd and they go through the boot process up to the actual login where it dies.
[09:43] <capt_kirk> np, Burgundavia.  
[09:43] <capt_kirk> anyone else monitoring the conversation?
[09:43] <Burgundavia> fwiw, I have never heard of this specific bug
[09:44] <capt_kirk> I've read a lot of Oli's post while googling.  Is he on here usually?
[09:44] <Burgundavia> yep, as ogra
[09:44] <capt_kirk> thanks
[09:46] <capt_kirk> I'll watch for him.  It's not urgent.  Just doing a proof-of-concept test lab now.  But need to have it working well within a couple of weeks to influence our next big buy.  Working to convince the Dean that LTSP is the way to go for the computer labs to give more capability for less cost
[09:48] <capt_kirk> fwiw, if there are any edubuntu developers here, I got the disks in the mail on Thursday night and have had a great weekend playing with them.  It's a great distro.  Very impressed.  Still a few automation issues that would make it easier for the average school to deploy, but it's a long way toward that goal.  great job!
[09:50] <capt_kirk> Well, gotta get to bed.  It's almost 2300 here in Tanzania.  Night.
[10:17] <mhz> anyone here working on E.H.B ?
[10:27] <hlabs> help. I need help in setting up a file server
[11:00] <hlabs>  i try to connect my windows pc the the shared folder of the ubuntu pc. But the window pops up and says enter uid and pass. I cannot access the folder even if the credentials are rite               
[11:02] <mhz> hlabs: and have you asked in #ubuntu?
[11:05] <LaserJock> hi Amaranth
[11:06] <Amaranth> hey
[11:06] <Amaranth> 403 on your branch
[11:06] <LaserJock> bah
[11:06] <cbx33> hi all
[11:06] <LaserJock> I wondered
[11:06] <LaserJock> hi cbx33
[11:06] <Amaranth> thanks to a tip on the forums my sound is now actually louder than it is in windows :D
[11:06] <cbx33> hi Laserjock
[11:07] <Amaranth> before it was 3x louder in windows than linux
[11:07] <Amaranth> at least
[11:07] <mhz> cbx33: are you working on EHB?
[11:07] <mhz> hi all
[11:07] <cbx33> EHB?
[11:07] <Amaranth> I wonder if crimsun would be able to figure out why the hack works like it does.
[11:07] <cbx33> oh
[11:07] <mhz> Edubuntu Handbook?
[11:08] <cbx33> not at the moment
[11:08] <mhz> okis
[11:08] <cbx33> probably will write some on SCP
[11:08] <LaserJock> Amaranth: can you try it now?
[11:09] <cbx33> when i finish my pessulus patch
[11:09] <Amaranth> loading up email
[11:09] <Amaranth> i think nvidia is robbing me of working hibernate :(
[11:10] <Amaranth> it works if i stop gdm before hibernating (echo disk > /sys/power/state)
[11:10] <Amaranth> but at that point i've already closed out everything that would make not doing a fresh boot worthwhile (except for the sound hack)
[11:12] <Amaranth> LaserJock: "All changes applied successfully."
[11:13] <Amaranth> which is really cool, because some of the patches it made still worked after i reordered things in setup.py :)
[11:13] <LaserJock> yeah, bzr is grand
[11:13] <cbx33> indeed
[11:14] <Amaranth> ugh
[11:15] <Amaranth> he didn't define any names for the buttons and dialog
[11:15] <Amaranth> so it's PushButton_4_2_clicked and junk
[11:15] <cbx33> iwho?
[11:15] <cbx33> :(
[11:15] <cbx33> i gotta add more to the pessulus app now
[11:16] <LaserJock> Amaranth: is that real bad?
[11:16] <cbx33> custom paths was cool, but, left me with a large problem.  Editing users keys, saved them as root 700
[11:17] <cbx33> so normal users couldn't even read them
[11:17] <Amaranth> LaserJock: it's pretty bad
[11:17] <Amaranth> LaserJock: i'll accept it for now but i'd like to see it cleaned up
[11:17] <cbx33> It makes it a lot harder to figure out what does what
[11:20] <Amaranth> i'm going to make willowng-config a metapackage that depends on willowng-config-gnome | willowng-config-kde
[11:20] <Amaranth> actually, i dunno if i should bother
[11:22] <LaserJock> ideally it would be better to do it that way
[11:22] <LaserJock> as then people see that there is a difference
[11:22] <LaserJock> but I don't know if it's a big deal
[11:23] <LaserJock> I just wanted to create as little delta as possible
[11:24] <Amaranth> i might make willowng-config into willowng-config-gnome but i think think i'll make the metapackage
[11:25] <Amaranth> hmm, although perhaps i should for upgrades
[12:00] <LaserJock> Amaranth: were you able to split it?