[12:11] i have a mad penguin on my desktop === fritsch [i=qgetdIGr@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:16] that's all on 8x6? [12:17] ey === xt [n=xt@83.242.11.11] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:18] hello! My edgy eft installation is stopping with partman running in eternal loops [12:19] xt: bug reports to launchpad.net, attach /var/log/installer/* if you can [12:19] alright [12:21] nixternal: no wonder why he's mad [12:21] hehe [12:21] ya, puting on win2k [12:21] im not about to purchase cedega to do this stupid office 2003 junk for school [12:22] wine doesn't do that? why can't you use openoffice? [12:22] cedega is only for games [12:22] wine won't run office 2003...and openoffice sucks for documentation..plus this course specifically requires .doc files [12:22] arg [12:22] crossover office i meant [12:22] sorry [12:22] yep [12:23] oo should support doc fine [12:23] it supports it, but can't format it [12:23] i did my resume in OOo, and everyone is like, dude are you retarded [12:23] it looks horrid when you open it in winderz [12:23] or office rather [12:24] odd === xt [n=xt@83.242.11.11] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Tm_T hates doc files === nando [n=nando@dslb-084-058-023-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:30] Riddell: can't backport ubuntu2 until that soyuz bug is resolved [12:33] humph === rouzic [n=rouzic@18.Red-88-10-62.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:03] my god is utorrent aggressive [01:03] or it might just be ktorrent misbehaving [01:03] I'm currently seeding the kubuntu/ubuntu knot2 cd's [01:04] and I'm getting around 10 connect requests a second [01:04] majority of whom are utorrent users [01:04] ignoring the statistical fallacy, I conclude that utorrent is being a bitch to my router === ryanakca wonders why he can't join kubuntu-devel llist [01:10] because mailing lists suck^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H === jdong ducks [01:13] ryanakca: what's the problem? === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:17] heya! [01:22] danimo! [01:24] Riddell: I registered, and the first time I got an e-mail saying to click on such and such a link to activate my subscription, but then I realised I hadn't been paying attention and had typed in my old email, so I go to change my e-mail to my new one... nothing happens... So I hit unsubscribe and I go to register with my new e-mail.. but I don't get a confirmation/activation e-mail like I did the first time [01:25] ryanakca: what email do you want subscribed? [01:26] Riddell: ryanakca+ubuntu @ gmail . com , please and thank-you :) [01:27] forgot about that trick [01:27] ryanakca: cheater [01:30] gnomefreak: lol [01:31] ryanakca: subscribed [01:40] Riddell: did you createa custom spam filter at all for the kubuntu-devel mailing list? [01:41] my list got its first piece of spam come through today [01:44] Riddell: thanks [01:45] nixternal: no, it uses spamassassin [01:46] Riddell: I figured out the problem... gmail's filters :) [01:46] nixternal: it's also set to reject posts unless from a subscribed address [01:46] that's why I wasn't getting it === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:59] heh...i was like wth, k-lined ;) [02:00] tis why i grabbed your info and added you to jabber ;) [02:00] lol [02:02] Riddell: in KHelpCenter right..there is a KDE Online page right that lists all the contact stuff for KDE...I was thinking of doing the same for Kubuntu if you were interested...there isn't a single doc that lists everything online for Kubuntu [02:03] "KDE on the Web" is what I was referring to === apachelogger notes one of his knotes is about that thingy [02:03] maybe add that info to the "About Kubuntu" docs [02:03] ah [02:03] right [02:03] out of date link === apachelogger grabs source [02:03] hehe [02:04] if you find broken links in any of the Kubuntu docs or what not, bug it, and then poke me [02:04] right now..all edgy docs are "dapper" docs..so thsoe don't count [02:04] nixternal: sure [02:04] kool. i will work something into it === Riddell sleeps [02:05] g'nite === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@18.Red-88-10-62.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === exobuzz [n=jools@82-70-241-14.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.230.59] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] has the magic of hal/dbus broke for anyone else? [03:29] I get all kinds of rejected messages from dbus [03:29] i.e. networkmanager, hotpluggable devices, etc [03:29] A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") [03:29] ^^ that's from mounting a usb stick === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:43] heh, looks like I'm suffering bug 58165 [03:43] Malone bug 58165 in hal "security policy error with hald after latest updates" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58165 === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.230.59] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-236-193.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger__ [n=tobias@p54A61A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.57] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-90.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:58] is /usr/share/applications/kde/ the prefered place to put .desktop files? [07:01] seems reasonable. [07:08] yea afaik [07:09] interesting, I wouldn't have thought there would be much conflict [07:09] although perhaps gksudo vs. kdesu [07:16] imbrandon: cute pic of your "little buddy". heheh! Have a great weekend, too! === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.57] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.57] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.57] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.57] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:35] hey all [07:35] ...when's the meeting again? [07:35] oh good, not during a medical appointment [07:43] heya Hobbsee [07:44] hey imbrandon [07:45] hi Hobbsee [07:46] hey LaserJock === Hobbsee notes that her sound is clearly screwed. [07:46] crimsun: fixmysound, kthnksbye! [07:47] lol [07:47] drive-by bugreport ? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:53] Hobbsee: ? [07:54] crimsun: my sound's still strangely pitched, sometimes scrambled. [07:54] crimsun: what's the best way to figure out what the problem is? [07:54] hiya Hobbsee ;) [07:55] hey nixternal [07:56] Hobbsee: all sound? [07:56] crimsun: yep [07:56] which driver? [07:56] crimsun: [07:56] sarah@sarah:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules [07:56] 0 snd_intel8x0 [07:57] Hobbsee: is it reproducible if you use the plughw:0 device (you'll lose dmix, or pcm multiplexing that allows you to play multiple sounds concurrently) [07:58] crimsun: not sure, how do i do that? [07:58] Hobbsee: normally the alsa-aware apps have a configuration for the device. You can try with aplay: aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav [07:58] whee! scrambled sound! it fixes itself for a few seconds, and then scrambles or changes pitch again. [07:59] also, is this 6.06.1 or 6.10? [07:59] aplay: main:547: audio open error: Device or resource busy [07:59] it's edgy [07:59] i had the same problem in dapper though. after one reinstall [07:59] I'm not actively tracking edgy; nearly all my support time is spent on dapper, with the patches feeding into edgy secondary [08:00] crimsun: ah okay [08:00] kill `lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*` [08:01] gotcha. [08:01] then try the aplay command again [08:01] it's working now, but i cant tell you if it will stay working [08:01] try changing it for all the alsa-aware apps as a test [08:02] e.g., in amarok's xine engine's config, see if there's a device entry [08:02] crimsun: um, how do i change it for them? [08:02] ah [08:02] change default to plughw:0 [08:02] woo! amarok crashed with that! [08:02] ...crashed? [08:03] crimsun: said xine couldnt initialise any drivers, and crashed. [08:03] want the backtrace? [08:03] sure [08:03] I don't have Kubuntu 6.10 in front of me; what was changed in the xine config? [08:04] crimsun: ah, a newer version === Hobbsee pastebins === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:05] crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/A9FE5l22.html [08:06] alsa device config.... [08:07] mono/stereo/4/6channels? [08:07] that's all? [08:07] yep [08:07] well, ie, i can set what goes into those boxes [08:07] oh, right. [08:08] i just need to know which box to put stuff in :P [08:08] change stereo from default to plughw:0,0 [08:08] crimsun: thanks, will test [08:09] imbrandon_: you're fiddling with your machine, right? [08:11] crimsun: still scrambled. slightly less scrambled, but it's still scrambled, and the pitch changes. [08:11] so that's obviously not a fix [08:11] no, I don't think that's alsa. [08:11] is this a laptop? [08:12] crimsun: yep, toshiba a10 satellite [08:12] running the latest bios? [08:12] crimsun: good question. where do i find out about that? toshiba site? [08:12] yep, and compare with dmidecode output [08:13] it's possibly tied to acpi. The symptom is that the sampling rate is shifting. [08:14] Hobbsee: yea , messing with upstart ( e.g. some reboots etc ) [08:14] imbrandon_: gotcha === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54957B7C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:15] I will be away for a couple days to get away from everything, so we may need to resume mid-week [08:15] crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/32mVhF90.html is dmidecode output [08:15] still looking for bios stuff [08:15] crimsun: fair enough, that's fine [08:15] crimsun: takin some ( much deserved ) time off ? cool [08:15] Hobbsee: right, lines 11-12 [08:17] http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/download_bios.jsp?service=EU === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:17] assuming it's that.... [08:20] that's unfortunate. I have no idea if that's the same version. [08:20] it's different [08:20] the date is later [08:20] hey cool, you can update this from within windows. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:20] right, but I can't tell what it fixes or anything since there's no description [08:20] and what's 1.30-TRAD vs. 1.30? [08:21] i'm not sure [08:21] crimsun: how do i go about fixing my BIOS if i kill it? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:22] I'm not convinced that page offers a newer bios revision, really. [08:22] does the processor speed-step? [08:23] no idea... [08:23] i'm not good on hardware [08:26] hmm, it might not even use acpi [08:26] from these pages (google search) it seems to use apm [08:27] that's another beast in itself [08:27] ahhh... [08:27] ok, you can try buggy_semaphore=1 [08:28] sudo modprobe -r snd-intel8x0 && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 buggy_semaphore=1 [08:28] sudo modprobe -r snd-intel8x0 && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 buggy_semaphore=1 [08:28] oops [08:30] lovely. Some reports say acpi, others say apm. [08:30] according to dmidecode both are supported, right? [08:30] yes [08:31] (has no idea what sh'es talking about, sorry!) === Hobbsee keeps fiddling [08:31] same symptom? [08:32] yeah, still buggered. seems a bit less buggered though [08:33] sorry, that really seems to be beyond alsa [08:33] crimsun: right, okay. thanks for your help though :) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger__ is now known as hunger === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.33.42] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:01] good morning === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:08] moin [10:08] greetings [10:08] hi Hobbsee [10:10] ugh got to be up in 5 hours , sleep time, bbiab [10:11] heh [10:11] night! [10:11] danimo: btw i had limited success with teh compile now BUT .... [10:11] imbrandon: Good night to you. [10:11] it segfaults heh sooo i'll dig a little more tomattow [10:11] Hobbsee: should the you don't have xine extra codecs message in amarok have worked for streams? [10:11] gnight hunger [10:11] imbrandon: ok, cool :) [10:11] night Hobbsee danimo [10:11] imbrandon: bye [10:11] seaLne: dont remember [10:11] it didn't for me [10:12] seaLne: if not i think it should be "fixed" for mp3/m3u streams yes [10:12] and .pls ? but problem with .pls is it can be anything ( like ogg etc ) [10:12] but 90% or better are mp3 .pls's [10:13] the weird thing for a user being that they get the stream title and stuff appearing, just no sound [10:13] wonder if there is a way to "pre-parse" the playlist to get the media type [10:14] that script needs better error checking anyway. [10:14] hrm , well i'm too tired to think about it honestly but i have a patch to apply to amarok tomarrow anyhow so if you shoot me off an email i'll rember to look at that too [10:14] seaLne: very true [10:14] is it some how still parsing the idv3 tag even though it can't play the music? [10:14] it dosent handle cancel and such gracefully iirc [10:15] yea id3 tag info comes from taglib [10:15] and thatas in main and installed with amarok [10:15] k [10:15] thats* [10:15] same lib handles ogg mp3 and others iirc [10:15] anyhow BED for me , gnight seaLne [10:16] if you shoot me a mail or poke me in the morn i'll look at the script closer when i put the artwork patch in tomarrow [10:17] n === Hobbsee wonders if imbrandon fixed whatever was wrong with kwwii's system [10:18] Hobbsee: he is/was using -0ubuntu2 becouse thats what is backported to dapper atm [10:19] its fixed in edgy but the dapper souyz has an issue atm with multi backports [10:19] ah [10:19] keybuck should fix it monday so all will be gravy [10:19] same with konvo and kopete [10:20] Hobbsee: just fyi ( to be fixed soonish e.g. monday "sometime" ) its malone bug 58144 thats put a damper on backports for the moment [10:20] Malone bug 58144 in soyuz "Backport is rejected if an older backport is already there" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58144 [10:21] anyhow , i'm off [10:21] imbrandon: ah okay, cool [10:21] === Hobbsee wonders if she's suddenly turned into an idiot. === pascalFR [i=3Rbcm9rW@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@18.Red-88-10-62.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A61A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@155.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:04] heya === rouzic [n=rouzic@18.Red-88-10-62.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:13] hi Tonio_ [11:13] Hobbsee: yop :) [11:13] Hobbsee: do you see guidance power manager launching twice too ? === _Sime does. [11:14] Tonio_: yes [11:14] Tonio_: you mean that's a bug? i thought that was something weird with my session saving. [11:14] _Sime: I don't figure out why [11:14] well === Hobbsee has an idea [11:14] there is only one autostart entry === Jucato experiences that, too... [11:14] 11:53 < _tsdgeos> Tm_T: well, i currently have four (4) guidance power manager icons in the systray [11:14] er, indeed. [11:14] tonio@kubuntu:~/.kde/share/config/session$ ps -A | grep guidance [11:14] 4717 ? 00:00:01 guidance-power- [11:14] 4737 ? 00:00:01 guidance-power- === Jucato waves hi to Hobbsee [11:14] also the name of the process is........... strange at least :) [11:15] 11:55 < tsdgeos> four guidance icons and the klaptop icon [11:15] Tm_T: hu ? isn't there a conflict between the packages ? [11:15] Tonio_: point. it is only there once [11:15] Tonio_: I don't know, I don't have laptop with KDE [11:15] Tonio_: and that's not kubuntu user even, KDE devel [11:16] okay, I can't work on this today, I still have to finish installing in my girlfriend's appartment... [11:16] I'll be okay tomorrow for this :) [11:16] so there seems to be some problems in upstream too ;) [11:16] seya tomorrow then :) [11:16] hi Tonio_ === Hobbsee wonders how one installs in an appartment [11:16] and have fun ;) [11:16] hey Jucato [11:17] :-D [11:17] hi kids [11:17] kids... I feel so young again :-D === Jucato_ [n=jucato@210.5.97.102] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:23] argh... errands... === marseillai_ [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-64-108.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne adds a "me too" for multiple guidance power manager === hunger sees it only once. === Hobbsee wonders... [11:36] But the mouse over display does not show anymore. Was that removed? I am sure I had one with the version with the old icon. [11:38] it does for me === J-a-r [n=netstar@c83-252-125-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-38-254.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:51] interesting....very interesting [11:51] hunger: ping? [11:52] and anyone who was just in that g-p-m discussion [11:52] Jucato: help me out? [11:53] Hobbsee: what's up? [11:54] abattoir: i've been testing out various g-p-m stuff - why a whole lot of us get multiple icons [11:54] yes... i was reading :) === abattoir gets the icon too... [11:55] the bug is that g-p-m doesnt respect the session saving settings. so unless you start with an empty session, you get multiples, it seems.... [11:55] even though i made sure i quit it before logging out [11:55] however, i havent figured out much more than that [11:55] abattoir: it doesnt matter, it doesnt understand that killed is killed. [11:55] abattoir: try killing it, and logging in again? [11:56] ok... === danimo just read about xandros 4 in tux magazine [11:56] they scored extremely well === Hobbsee wonders how you can force something to start minimised, apart from session saving === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm120.omega23.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:59] Hobbsee: kstart --iconify ./foo [12:00] Hobbsee: would that help? [12:00] Hobbsee: yes, it always loads an instance... and kde's session mgmt. loads up previous instances [12:01] err... sorry Hobbsee, I was away. === Hobbsee looks [12:02] abattoir: what happens if you killall guidance-power-manager, check with ps aux | grep power, and then restart kde? does the same thing happen? [12:02] yeah I had that same experience with g-p-m and thought it might have something to do with restoring the previous session. it disappeared when I set KDe to start with an empty session... [12:02] Hobbsee: that's what i generally do... and the next time I startup, there is an icon(when there shouldnt be) [12:05] abattoir: darn, so you really have to start with an empty session to fix it === Hobbsee plays with empty sessions === abattoir tries that out... === Jucato eagerly waits for abattoir's return... === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm120.omega23.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shining [n=xav@AFontenayssB-152-1-45-124.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:08] it is loaded, even in a fresh session [12:09] but only once [12:09] because g-p-m is in /usr/sharAutomatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/start [12:09] lol sorry [12:09] because g-p-m is in /usr/share/autostart [12:10] Jucato: yes, but none of the other entries there load if you quit them once... [12:12] rawr... away again... === Hobbsee is having fun playing with all of this === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:22] yay for irssi :) [12:24] is there a reason amarok isnt a depend of kubuntu-desktop. and would it make sence to add it since everyone is media hungry? [12:24] nvm it is [12:25] for some reason i thought i had to install it [12:30] hunger: mouse over guidance is already fixed in svn === Hobbsee [n=user@CPE-144-136-125-169.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:31] hmmm. [12:32] danimo: it half worked! [12:35] eh. sort of [12:35] Hobbsee: what failed? [12:36] danimo: er, actually, it did work. it just didnt do quite what i wanted. i'd like it to keep the windows maximised when i click on their icons in the tray === Hobbsee checks man kstart again [12:37] i guess i can set the individual windows like that... [12:37] hmmm. === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm120.omega23.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:39] hi abattoir [12:39] Riddell: hi, i finally got the hang of bzr :P [12:39] hey Riddell [12:39] Riddell: and... it works better than the GTK UI? :S [12:40] dinner [12:40] abattoir: cool [12:40] abattoir: so your archive is complete? [12:40] Riddell: yes... only the password and confirm password thing left.. i couldnt figure that out :( [12:41] password to what? [12:41] Riddell: in the last step, when the Password and confirm password fields dont match, the GTK UI does nothing, while the KDE UI finishes... [12:42] abattoir: I've never used a UI [12:43] huh? [12:43] Riddell: I mean the GTK and KDE frontend :P [12:44] I've never used either [12:45] Riddell: what do you mean? [12:45] I just use the command line [12:45] aah, so how do you input? [12:46] Riddell: ok,ok, there has been a misunderstanding... i didnt mean the bzr UI [12:46] aah [12:46] Riddell: i meant oem-config :) [12:46] got ye === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A61A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:47] so the KDE oem-config is more fixed than the gnome one, sorted [12:47] Riddell: 'more fixed'? [12:47] well it works while the gnome one seems to be broken [12:48] Riddell: i dont face any errors w/ the gnome UI [12:48] Riddell: at which step? what happens? [12:48] abattoir: you say "the GTK UI does nothing" [12:49] Riddell: edgy finally has a kde oem mode? [12:49] cool [12:49] danimo: it will when we merge in abattoir's work [12:49] Riddell: well, if the password fields dont match, 'nothing' is better than finishing :P [12:49] Riddell: password and confirm password, that is [12:50] abattoir: I see [12:50] debconf will report a failure and I guess that bit isn't well tested [12:51] Riddell: i'll see if i can fix it by tonight, else i'll come back to you or ask Kamion for help.. [12:51] Riddell: otherwise everything works fine :) [12:52] danimo: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuOEMInstaller [12:52] abattoir: how does oem mode work exactly? like can I create a setup and clone that to X PCs? === danimo looks [12:53] danimo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview [12:53] danimo: you do the install then dd the disk image to all your other laptops/desktops, then sell them to customers === Hobbsee declares dr who scary. [12:54] Hobbsee: hide behind the sofa [12:55] Riddell: heh. or just come up here [12:55] Riddell: there's a wall behind the sofa. i wont fit. [12:56] Hobbsee: dr. who is awesome [12:56] Hobbsee: I love the show [12:56] Hobbsee: can't wait for christmas === Hobbsee isnt a great fan of scary/tense things. === Hobbsee gets enough scary stuff in real life. [12:57] :P [12:57] Hobbsee: what episode are you watching? [12:58] danimo: i'm not sure, i wandered in late. the tardis has been destroyed in an earthquake, and there's a guy with black writing all over him. [12:58] Hobbsee: ah, "impossible planet/satans pit" [12:58] danimo: probably [12:58] Hobbsee: great stuff :) [12:58] heh [12:58] danimo: have fun watching it :P [12:59] hehe [12:59] Hobbsee: I already know most episodes since 2005 inside out [12:59] that said, wikipedia has a really good episode guide :) [01:00] danimo: true that. scary :P === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:04] sebas: why did you make power manager not be a kuniqueapplication? [01:05] Riddell: I think it was partialy due the missing dcop fix, but sebas has more info === Hobbsee uses the workaround for only getting one icon in the tray for the g-p-m [01:05] Hobbsee: what's that? [01:05] Riddell: delete the /usr/share/autostart/guidance-power-manager.desktop :P === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:05] heheh === Hobbsee is now known as Hobbsee__ [01:06] well, that doesn't help for the first boot [01:06] Riddell: true that. [01:06] what? [01:06] the session never seems to get killed. [01:06] Riddell: doesnt help for the very first boot of a new user, yes. [01:06] abattoir mentioned something a while ago? [01:07] Jucato: no, dont think so... [01:07] ah.. must have misread something... === Jucato scrolls up... [01:07] Jucato: nothing after the message on g-p-m [01:08] ah I must have misunderstood. I thought you meant that if I quit the extra g-p-m's once, they won't get reloaded in the next session. sorry about that [01:09] Jucato: that's the problem - they do [01:09] yeah. I had 4 of them last night... [01:10] I just set the Session Manager to start with an empty session... but that doesn't really help much, since the default is to restore from the previous session... [01:12] ah darn, i'm not in irssi anymore === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-80-137.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=user@CPE-144-136-125-169.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:15] well, if you delete the respective lines in ~/.kde/ksmserver* (whatever it is), then it works as intended. === Hobbsee_ [n=user@CPE-144-136-125-169.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee [01:28] Riddell: sent another pm fix (just in case if you are packaging new version) === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54957B7C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] Lure: you might want to ask for a KDE SVN account now :) [01:31] ack [01:32] Riddell: how do you do that? [01:32] Lure: http://developer.kde.org/joining/applysvnaccount.php [01:32] http://developer.kde.org/joining/applysvnaccount.php [01:32] hmm, google has the ?edit pages in it's results === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:34] danimo, Riddell: thanks - was not aware how easy it is... Will do now... [01:35] what is preffered way? https or ssh? (I suspect ssh) [01:40] Lure: ssh is much nicer in my opinion [01:40] Riddell: I thought so... === jdong still crying about his dbus [01:48] jdong: what's up? [01:48] Riddell: bug 58165 [01:48] Malone bug 58165 in hal "security policy error with hald after latest updates" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58165 [01:49] I get those types of error messages === jdong|coreduo [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:10] am I really the only one here with a broken dbus [02:10] :( [02:10] why do we have a separate "power menu" icon under kmenu --> lost and found? [02:16] because you have thrown the desktop file away? [02:18] point. [02:18]