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lotusleafshadowr3d: press eject on your burner and when it comes out you clutch it with joy and say "wow thank you mark!"12:10
shadowr3dno12:10
deinwww.ubuntu.com shadowr12:10
lotusleafshadowr3d: then dance like a mouse12:10
shadowr3dok12:10
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lotusleafshadowr3d: and make your own mouse house out of cardboard12:10
deinobsessed with mice lotusleaf?12:11
Tm_Tdein: xfce is12:11
fdovingshadowr3d: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso12:11
lotusleafdein: have you seen the xfce logo? :)12:11
deinxfce is very small though12:11
deini use a different non-mousy one12:11
lotusleafdein: even the smallest person can change the course of the future, remember what the good elf lady said?12:11
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shadowr3dfdovin yes12:11
lotusleafdein: I bet all hobbits use xubuntu12:12
deinthere should be a windowmanager obsessed with cows12:12
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lotusleafdein: hurdbuntu12:12
fdovingdein: don't need to, apt has super cow powers.12:12
deinapt is only a package manager tho12:12
xav__apt-get mooes12:12
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deinit cant possibly meet all my bovine needs12:13
xav__dein: either kde or gnome should do12:13
josh__lol12:13
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Toranhow can I get the "extract here..." service menu in konqueror for .RAR files? I have it for .zip and .tar.gz and .tar.bz2, but not rars12:14
deini can't wait till kde 4.012:14
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xav__I can12:14
deintoran, install unrar12:14
deinsudo apt-get install unrar12:14
xav__rar == warez12:15
dthackerOk, I've rebooted, started adept, and pushed "Fetch Updates", which finished way too fast.  A visit to the "manage repositories page" shows them all grayed out.  That seems bad.....12:15
xav__bad bad12:15
deinnot all the time xav lol12:15
fdovingunrar isn't12:15
xav__.rar I mean12:15
Toranthanks dein12:15
deinok i go deliver pizza for the next 5 hours of my life ; ;12:16
deinbye12:16
dthackerdrive carefully12:16
Xcaliburwhats different in edubuntu compared to ubuntu12:16
Xcalibur?12:16
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dthackerhehe12:16
fdovingbye dein. good luck with the pizza.12:16
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fdovingXcalibur: you can read about edubuntu here: http://edubuntu.org/12:17
shadowr3dhow come i cant use edubuntu as a live cd12:17
cholera#staemme12:17
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lotusleafToran: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3375112:17
lotusleafdoh12:18
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xthello! My edgy eft installation is stopping with partman running in eternal loops12:18
xtis it a known bug?12:18
fdovingxt: might try #kubuntu-devel for that.12:18
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xtfdoving: k12:18
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MetaMorfoziSwhat is the best advantage that edgy have in the future?12:22
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zorgluuu!info gcc12:22
ubotugcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB12:22
{malice}? I have a Dell Latitude C540 and I need to upgrade the bios but I do not have floppy does anyone know how I can run the exe file in ubuntu? I installed wine and it does not work12:23
zorgluuuhmm 4.0.2 is bugged but what about 4.0.3 ? :)12:24
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zorgluuuhttp://linux.dell.com/blog/2005/10/11/12:24
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zorgluuumalice, seems to talk about your stuff12:25
{malice}zorgluuu:ty12:25
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now3dHi, I have a few programms crashing in ubuntu, seems to point to libc, is ubuntu-users or ubuntu-devl the best place to discuss?12:27
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xav__now3d: check reported bugs12:28
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xav__now3d: why does it seem to point to libc?12:29
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Xcaliburwhats a good media player12:29
danexIs it possible to install kubuntu via a connection to a server?12:29
Frederickfolks is there any kind of openssl dev package on kubuntu? or any flag I must activate to get all docs?12:29
FrederickXcalibur, xine12:29
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jbirdAngelHello, can someont tell me what krita stands for12:30
now3dxav__: gdb:  #0  0xb7e6f2a3 in strlen () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc12:30
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zorgluuu:) it is hardly a proof :)12:31
now3dxav__: I recompiled the program which triggered the crash, dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/now3d/rip.bin bs=51212:31
Genericanyone using Edgy eft?12:31
Xcaliburhow do i acsess12:31
Generic!mp3 > me12:31
Xcaliburxine12:31
now3dxav__ a basic operation shouldnt cause a crash12:31
Generic!mp3 > Generic12:31
fdovingGeneric: yes.12:31
Xcalibur!mp312:31
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xav__now3d: weird12:32
xav__now3d: well, check bugs12:32
Genericfdoving: have you tried using automatix or easyubuntu yet?12:32
now3dWhen I do apt-get install samba   i get this warning:  WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!      is that like it on tyours?12:32
zorgluuunow3d: can you put the backtrace in pastbin ?12:32
Xcalibur!wmv12:32
zorgluuuthe whole backtrace :)12:32
Xcalibura better question, what can play wmv's?12:32
fdovingGeneric: no, and i don't recommend using either. Use at own risk.12:32
fdoving!wmv12:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:32
Genericfdoving: I'm aware of that, I just want to use a script to install all the codecs for audio12:33
GenericAmarok recently added support for wmv12:33
Xcaliburdoes kubuntu come with amarok?12:33
fdovingyes.12:33
Xcaliburok12:33
zorgluuunow3d: ?12:34
now3dzorgluuu: just a sec ;)12:34
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zorgluuuok :)12:34
now3dzorgluuu: http://pastebin.com/78232312:34
kieselsteiniXcalibur: without amaroK KDE wouldn't be that cool *g*12:34
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zorgluuuhmm pastebin.com seems unreachable from here12:35
Generic!pastebin12:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:35
zorgluuuah no, just very slow :)12:35
Xcaliburit won't play, etf?12:35
Xcaliburwtf******12:36
zorgluuu/home/now3d/coreutils-5.97/src/dd <- you compiled it yourself i can see12:36
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zorgluuunow3d, the stack seems quite corrupted :)12:36
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Xcaliburi click play, and Amarok plays for a second, then stops?12:37
zorgluuu/home/now3d/coreutils-5.97/src/dd <- you compiled it yourself i can see. now3d, the stack seems quite corrupted :)12:37
Xcaliburwft?12:37
Xcaliburwtf*12:37
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zorgluuunow3d, main() and stuff are absent from the stack12:37
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now3dzorgluuu: it keeps kicking me while i try and paste you12:37
zorgluuunow3d, my guess is that you didnt put the proper option12:37
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zorgluuumaouaoua i rxmited twice already :)12:38
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zorgluuunow3d: no need to paste me, pastbin reacted :)12:38
now3dzorgluuu:  hmm, what option?12:38
zorgluuunow3d: i dunno :)12:38
now3dzorgluuu: oh, i thought you knew about this stuff..12:38
zorgluuunow3d: why do you need to compile core-utils yourself ?12:38
GenericXcalibur: do you have w32codecs installed?12:38
now3dzorgluuu: to confirm its not coretutils package..12:38
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Xcaliburhow I get them?12:38
zorgluuuno i dont know all the compilation option of the coreutil packages :)12:38
now3danyone have any answer to my samba question?12:39
GenericXcalibur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats12:39
Genericabout 1/4 the way down12:39
zorgluuuok have fun guys :)12:39
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fdovingnow3d: what samba question, and you know you can run 'apt-get install --reinstall coreutils' if apt-get works.12:40
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beniamino_just dist-upgraded to dapper and now my sound is broken: cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp says '/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy'12:40
nagyvI have just tried compiz without xgl. It worked with my Ati Mobility Radeon 9600, and the free radeon driver. Are there any chances to get it working with xgl too?12:41
Genericnagyz, use automatix-bleeder12:41
GenericI used that to setup compiz/xgl and it worked for me12:41
Xcaliburomg12:41
GenericZOMG12:42
lotusleafthat's nothing, I installed xgl by strobe light after 5 days without sleep12:42
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Blissexlotusleaf: because XGL deserves that degree of effort? :-)12:42
lotusleafBlissex: because I was dared to12:43
now3dfdoving: coreutils md5sums verifies, and gives the same libc callstack.. so its not that deb "dd"..12:43
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Blissexlotusleaf: uhmmmmm :-)12:43
Xcaliburi f****** hate tis adept bulls***, i goto install anything, and instead of installing it, it says BREAK in large red letters, and sais the commit broke the packages12:44
Xcaliburwtf?12:44
Xcaliburanyone?12:44
Xcalibur?12:44
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GenericXcalibur: do it through konsole12:44
now3dfdoving: but I'll give it ago...  i get the same "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" as I now get when installing "samba", any ideas>?12:44
fdovingXcalibur: wtf. try to be a little more polite and use proper language. ok, wtf? thanks in advance :)12:44
Xcalibursame prob, and srry for the language12:45
GenericXcalibur: it should give you the details on the operation this time12:45
fdovingXcalibur: try to run 'sudo apt-get -f install' from konsole.12:45
Xcaliburok12:45
Genericalso, do a sudo apt-get -f install12:46
Xcaliburlet me use pastebin12:46
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fdovingnow3d: i'm reading your pastebin now.12:46
Xcalibur!pastebin12:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:47
fdovingnow3d: what is the problem, the tls crash?12:48
now3dfdoving: Yes12:48
Xcaliburhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2238012:48
fdovingnow3d: do you get that from the installed coreutils too? or just the one you've compiled yourself?12:48
now3dfdoving: yes, from both, i built myself to verify that12:48
fdovingnow3d: understand. did you install anything or change anything to before getting that error ?12:49
now3dfdoving: no12:49
now3dfdoving: I got a segfault from smbpasswd, but could not reproduce to get a callstack12:49
fdovingnow3d: please check /var/log/dpkg.log to be on the safe side.12:49
Xcaliburhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22380 - someone plz read this?12:50
fdovingXcalibur: try to run 'sudo apt-get -f install' without mozilla-firefox as an argument.12:50
Xcaliburok12:50
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Xcaliburit's oly 3 lines12:50
Xcaliburdo i have to use paste bin12:50
Xcalibur?12:50
fdovingyes.12:51
Xcaliburok12:51
Xcaliburhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2238112:52
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fdovingXcalibur: then it's no problems.12:53
fdovingyou want to install firefox?12:53
Xcaliburthat, and the win32codecs12:53
fdoving'sudo aptitude update;sudo aptitude install firefox'12:53
fdoving!w32codecs12:53
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now3dfdoving: Ok, here is a log of that file, i installed a few packages:   http://pastebin.com/78234312:54
Xcaliburyo, I got an error while updating12:54
fdovingXcalibur: if it's more than one line, pastebin it.12:55
fdovingi have to go in 2-5 mins.. going to bed. it's late here.12:55
Xcaliburok12:55
Xcaliburhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2238312:55
now3dHi, anyone know how to turn off all the icons appear when i move my mouse over shortcuts on my KDE panel bar?12:56
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GenericXcalibur: that isn't anything serious, but you will need to get the gpg key for that repository12:56
fdovingXcalibur: you should change mirror.noreply.org to cc.archive.ubuntu.com, where cc should be your two letter coutry code.12:57
fdovingXcalibur: that should be in /etc/apt/sources.list12:57
kevynwhere can i find limewire for linux12:57
Generickevyn: google knows12:57
Xcaliburexacly how do i fix this prob, can somone priv msg me?12:57
Genericsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:57
now3dfdoving: any ideas..?12:57
Genericgo down and edit the line12:57
fdovingkevyn: i recommend frostwire, free limewire "copy"12:57
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fdoving!frostwire12:58
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire12:58
fdovingkevyn: ^^12:58
Xcaliburcouldn't i just edit this with adept12:59
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fdovingXcalibur: in konsole, run: sudo perl -i -p -e 's/mirror.noreply.org/archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list12:59
fdovingXcalibur: then re-run 'sudo apt-get update'01:00
Xcaliburok01:00
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fdovingnow3d: not really.. no. try to just reinstall coreutils without authentication.. to check.01:01
shadowr3dis it possible to add windows media player 11 beta 2 for kubuntu01:01
fdovingI have to go now, good night all.01:02
shadowr3daww man01:02
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kevynHOW CAN I INSTALL RPM FILE01:02
shadowr3dis it possible to add windows media player 11 beta 2 for kubuntu01:02
fdovingshadowr3d: i wouldn't install windows media player in linux, take a look at kaffeine or codeine, and amarok.01:02
Xcaliburrpm is for rehat01:03
Xcaliburredhat01:03
fdovingkevyn: YOU CANT, THIS IS UBUNTU WE USE .DEB. OK?01:03
HazXD01:03
Xcaliburhey, I reupdated with sudo apt-get update01:03
shadowr3dfdoving but i like the new version of windows media player01:03
Xcaliburtried to install firefox01:03
Tm_Twell, you can always use alien to transfer rpm to deb01:03
Xcaliburand it told me "mozilla-firefox: Depends: firefox but it is not going to be installe"01:04
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Genericshadowr3d: then use windows01:04
kevyni cant install with shell01:04
kevynit doesnt work01:04
Generic!alien01:04
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).01:04
fdovingkevyn: sorry for beeing rude with the caps, we generally don't like caps, it's considered "shouting" and that's like "hey my problem is more important than all the others in here" and that attitude is disliked.01:04
kevyni'm srr01:04
davyhey ppl, i have a problem with upgrading to the newest kde version?01:04
kevynnow01:05
fdovingkevyn: it's ok. :)01:05
kevynno01:05
fdovingnow goodnight all.01:05
Xcaliburanyone?01:05
Genericgoodnight fdoving01:05
shadowr3di have it installed on windows but i want windows media player 11 beta 2 on kubuntu also so can anyone help01:05
Tm_Tgood night here too ->01:05
GenericXcalibur: install firefox, sudo apt-get install firefox01:05
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Genericshadowr3d: try wine01:06
shadowr3dyea?01:06
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shadowr3dhow01:06
XcaliburI tried01:06
Generic!wine > shadowr3d01:06
shadowr3dcould you show me01:06
Xcaliburand it said "mozilla-firefox: Depends: firefox but it is not going to be installed"01:06
shadowr3dhow do i make it so it runs under wine01:06
davywhen doing a apt-get update and upgrade its says its only gonna update 25 packages??01:06
Genericwhat did you get when you did "sudo apt-get -f install"?01:06
Genericshadowr3d: google knows01:06
Genericdavy, that's normal01:07
shadowr3domg01:07
Genericit means that 25 packages have been updated in the repos01:07
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kevyni ghot shell file for limewire but i cant install it01:07
davyyes but 80 are not updated???01:07
Genericdavy, that usually means it's a major realease, use apt-get dist-upgrade01:07
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Genericare you suing dapper?01:07
Generics/suing/using01:07
Xcalibur?01:07
davyyes dapper01:08
Genericokay, then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:08
kevyni ghot shell file for limewire but i cant install it01:08
davythanks generic :)01:08
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Xcaliburanyone?01:08
davyi am gonna try that01:08
GenericXcalibur: it should resolve dependency issues when you do apt-get -f install01:08
Generickevyn: there should be a guide for installing frostwire01:09
GenericI haven't used it so I can't help you with that01:09
davygreat looks better now, 100+ packages updating ...01:09
kevynfrostwire???01:10
Xcaliburshould i try to reboot?01:10
Generickevyn: use frostwire, not limewire01:10
GenericXcalibur: are you paying attention to anything I'm saying?01:10
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Xcaliburyes, i tried that, same result01:10
Generichmm01:11
Generictry a dpkg --purge mozilla-firefox01:11
Genericthen apt-get install firefox01:11
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XcaliburI'm gonna paste what it gives me, different this time01:12
bill__is there any way to modify the size of the taskbar?01:12
Xcaliburin pastebin01:12
bill__I'd like the taskbar to be longer...01:13
Genericok01:13
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mortenskytbill__: yes, it's very customizable01:13
Linux_GaloreIm playing the kubuntu edgy and the graphical package manager is still crashing01:13
bill__how so?01:13
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Linux_Galorewell in my case it doesnt even start01:13
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mortenskytthe taskbar isn't 100% width already?01:13
Xcaliburhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2238801:13
otaku-sanhey what would I put in Konsole to install QT....I tried sudo apt-get install qt...didn't work01:13
Xcaliburthere01:13
Linux_Galorethe command line stuff works fine though01:14
Linux_GaloreIm using node 201:14
bill__mortenskyt: I dont think it is...01:14
mortenskytanyway, what you should try and do is right-click somewhere on the taskbar (where there's nothing) and choose "configure panel"01:14
GenericXcalibur: you're repository is screwy01:14
mortenskytand see if the length is 100%, if not, make it so01:14
Xcaliburhow i fix?01:15
bill__oh, I mean the actual task bar...not the entire panel. the taskbar as in the windowlist01:15
GenericXcalibur: you can use this to generate a new one: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:15
KeatonMy ATI Radeon 9200 won't display after the boot screen.01:16
mortenskytoh, yea right01:16
mortenskytI figure stay in the configure panel-menu01:16
mortenskytand go to "appearance"01:16
mortenskytand click "advanced options"01:16
mortenskytand set applet handles to "visible"01:16
mortenskytthen you can see how big the taskbar is01:16
GenericKeaton, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow through it01:16
mortenskytand move whatever applets are in the way by simply moving them with your mouse01:17
kevynhow i install frostwire01:17
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Generic!frostwire01:18
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire01:18
Lunar_Raven!frostwire01:18
gnomefreak!frostwire01:18
Lunar_Ravenyou beat me01:18
Lunar_Raven:(01:18
GenericBooyah!01:18
kevynok01:18
mortenskytkevyn: go to www.frostwire.com01:18
kevyni did01:18
Xcaliburyay01:18
XcaliburI made a new one01:18
mortenskytright-click on "ubuntu/debian" and save link as and choose your desktop01:19
Xcaliburok, now what, try to install firefox01:19
mortenskytok01:19
Xcalibur?01:19
davybe back later, need to log off :) thanks for ur help Generic01:19
GenericXcalibur: have you replaced your currnet sources.list with the new one?01:19
mortenskytthen it should just be a matter of fireing up a console, cd to your desktop and type01:19
GenericNo problem davy :)01:19
bill__mortenskyt: setting the applet handles visible doesnt change the size of the taskbar01:19
Xcaliburi did the command thing01:19
mortenskytsudo  dpkg --install whateverthefileis.deb01:19
mortenskytoh, hm01:19
mortenskytbill__, no01:20
GenericXcalibur: which would be...01:20
mortenskytbut it makes visible where the borders are01:20
mortenskytshould be a matter of moving whatever applets are blocking the taskbar from being full size01:20
mortenskytand setting the handles to visible makes you capable of seeing them01:20
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bill__well, there's nothing blocking the taskbar...as far as I can tell it is in the full, default size. I'd like to know if it is possible expand this size...like in gnome01:21
mortenskyteh.... hm, how expand?01:22
GenericXcalibur: type this: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:22
mortenskytyou could add it somewhere else on the screen in it's own space01:22
Genericthen replace the list with your new one01:22
mortenskytwhich would be something like adding a new panel and then adding the taskbar-applet01:22
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mortenskytbut I don't see how you'd expand it otherwise...01:23
bill__from say, 90 pixels width to 300 pixels width01:23
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mortenskyt90px?! that's nothing, howcome it's so tiny01:23
bill__I dont know the exact number....01:23
bill__that's just an example01:24
mortenskytyea yea, but what's left and right of the taskbar?01:24
bill__plenty of space01:24
bill__I'd like to fill that space01:24
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mortenskytyes, I just don't get why that's not possible...01:25
bill__there's no size option for the taskbar01:25
bill__at least via gui01:25
mortenskytnot in width, only height01:25
mortenskytin return, it has length01:25
mortenskytbut if that's 100%, it should be cool01:25
mortenskytthen it's just a matter of fiddleing the various applets in the bar01:25
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bill__you're thinking of the panel. I'm talking about the tastbar. there is no option to change its default size....01:26
mortenskythm01:26
Xcaliburim sorry, can somone plz send me the link to make new sources.list, my parents made me so mad, i almost threw my laptop01:26
mortenskytthe way it works in kde is that the taskbar should be maximum possible width per default01:26
bill__even if you change the panel to "large" or whatever...the taskbar remains the same width.01:26
mortenskytunless something is blocking it01:26
Xcalibur?01:26
mortenskytexactly01:27
mortenskytso right to the taskbar probably, there's some applet you need to move or remove01:27
mortenskytand the taskbar would resize itself to utilize 100% possible width01:27
lotusleafshadowr3d: you might want to ask in #winehq01:27
bill__I have removed everything from the panel besides the taskbar. and still it is small01:28
GenericXcalibur: one sec01:28
GenericXcalibur: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:28
mortenskytand you've tried moving it around? (the taskbar)01:28
mortenskytyou know, just drag it a bit to the left, a bit to the right01:28
bill__yes01:29
kevynDOESNT WORK01:29
bill__all that does is move it....01:29
mortenskytthat's strange then01:29
bill__try it yourself...01:29
kevyndamn01:29
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mortenskytyes, I do, and when I release, my taskbar is 100% width of what's possible01:29
Genericis the little box below checked?01:29
mortenskytwhile moving it, the icons in the taskbar resize to very small, but when I release it again, they go to the desired width01:29
mortenskytyou are talkin about each icon in the taskbar you want to have a certain width on and not the entire thing?01:30
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mortenskyt'cus if that's so, then I don't know if it's possible01:30
bill__yes, I am talking about the whole entire taskbar. I'd like it to be larger.01:30
bill__like you can in gnome01:31
Xcaliburtrying it now01:31
mortenskythm, afraid I can't help you01:31
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mortenskytnever tried the bar doesn't resize to full width automatically01:32
bill__I guess I'm worndering if there is some config file that I can edit...01:32
bill__there are not any options in the gui01:32
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Xcaliburwhats the command for me to edit my sources.list?01:33
mortenskytthe default behaviour should be to resize the taskbar to full width, so if it doesn't, then, well, sounds like a bug01:33
mortenskytXcalibur: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:34
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Xcaliburthanx01:36
mortenskytnp01:36
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Admiral_Chicagoi keep getting this "xine was unable to find any audio devices" error in amarok01:43
mortenskytaudio works elsewhere?01:43
Xcaliburyay01:43
Admiral_Chicagoerr initialze any audio device01:43
Xcaliburit finally installed!01:43
Admiral_Chicagomortenskyt, yes01:43
mortenskythm, what about in kaffeine?01:43
Admiral_Chicagoit gives an error tone when it does that01:43
mortenskytanyway, in kaffeine, you can go to setting > xine engine...01:44
mortenskytand you can go to audio and select an audiodriver01:44
mortenskytI figure there's something similar in amarok01:44
Admiral_Chicagoyea01:44
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mortenskytit's probably because xine defaults to an audio-device that hasn't been configured correctly01:45
mortenskytso play around with the driver, probablt alsa or oss that'll do the trick01:45
Admiral_Chicagono, i did that too and it didn't work01:45
mortenskythm01:46
Admiral_Chicagowhatever i don't need sound that much right now01:46
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drizhey guys i need to update amarok how would i go around and do that?01:46
mortenskytyea ok01:47
Admiral_Chicagodriz, the latest version should be...01:47
Admiral_Chicago!amarok01:47
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org01:47
Admiral_Chicagoadd the key, add the fiile line to you sources.list01:47
lotusleafdriz: in Adept or Synaptic, whichever you use, just reload then look for new updates and select amarok and install01:47
Admiral_Chicagolotusleaf, might not be in the repos01:48
drizoh ok01:48
Admiral_Chicagoits in the edgy repos01:48
mortenskytdriz: yea, or even easier, just go to console and sudo apt-get update01:48
lotusleafAdmiral_Chicago: it's there01:48
mortenskytand then sudo apt-get upgrade01:48
kevynis there existing a aesy way to istall progs on kubuntu01:48
mortenskytif it doesn't update it, then you need newer repositories (or you have the newest version)01:48
Admiral_Chicagomortenskyt, apt-get dist-upgrade01:48
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mortenskytoh yea, in case of dependency mixup01:49
kevynis there existing a aesy way to istall progs on kubuntu01:49
lotusleafit's there and this time it's not in a specific amarok directory to be manually added to sources.list like it usually was01:49
mortenskytkevyn: yes, you know if you have synaptic in?01:49
kevynih have synaptic01:49
mortenskytthen that's that (-: it's the far easiest way to install things imho01:49
kevynyes but for istalling limefrost, ati driver01:49
mortenskytoh, try easyubuntu01:50
Admiral_Chicagomortenskyt, command line ftw01:50
mortenskytthat has the ati-driver01:50
kevyneasy ubuntu???01:50
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mortenskytAdmiral_Chicago: I like console too for some tasks, but you must admit, windows can help when there's a lot of info01:50
mortenskytkevyn: yes01:51
Admiral_Chicagoi know that, but I use the console for everything, including stuff that there is no GUI for01:51
Admiral_Chicagolike converting .mp3 to .wav01:51
kevyni cant install the driver ik cant use my second monitor01:51
drizmortenskyt: i need to enable multiverse alsio01:51
Admiral_Chicagoi could use Adept but that takes WAYYYY too long01:51
mortenskyt'problem' in ubuntu is that the filosophy of ubuntu states something like proprietary software be gone, and closed source in general01:51
kevyni cant do dual screening only clone01:52
mortenskytAdmiral_Chicago: hehe, yes, it's good when you know the commands, but for most tasks I prefer windows as they're more intuitive01:52
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mortenskytkevyn: ye, I know the issue, fortunately the newest ati-drivers include xinerama so it can work pretty well on linux01:52
mortenskytjust go ahead and google for easyubuntu01:52
mortenskytthink it's easyubuntu.freecontrib.org, but not sure, google'll help01:52
Admiral_Chicago!easyubuntu01:53
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.01:53
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Admiral_Chicagomortenskyt, now sound is working01:53
Admiral_Chicagoguess i had to wait a little while01:53
mortenskytfantastic (-:01:53
drizE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. what does this mean?01:53
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Admiral_Chicagotype "sudo dpkg --configure -a"01:54
mortenskythehe01:54
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kevyncant install easy ubuntu problems with redhat-cluster-suite01:57
mortenskytwtf?!01:58
kevyni dont know01:58
Admiral_Chicagono idea01:58
Admiral_Chicagoask in #easyubnutu01:58
mortenskytyou're not even supposed to install anything01:58
Admiral_Chicagoerr spell that right01:58
mortenskytit's just a matter of unpacking and running01:58
kevynvmd could not connect to cluster manager01:58
kevynConsult syslog for more information01:58
kevyninvoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed.01:59
kevyndpkg: fout bij afhandelen van clvm (--configure):01:59
kevyn subproces post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 3 terug01:59
kevyndpkg: vereistenproblemen verhinderen de configuratie van redhat-cluster-suite:01:59
kevyn redhat-cluster-suite is afhankelijk van clvm; maar:01:59
mortenskythm, that's dutch01:59
kevyn  Pakket clvm is nog niet geconfigureerd.01:59
kevyndpkg: fout bij afhandelen van redhat-cluster-suite (--configure):01:59
kevyn vereistenproblemen - blijft ongeconfigureerd01:59
kevynFouten gevonden tijdens behandelen van:01:59
kevyn clvm01:59
kevyn redhat-cluster-suite01:59
kevynyes i'm from belguim01:59
mortenskyt(-:01:59
kevyni cant unpack it02:00
mortenskytthat early, hm02:00
mortenskytusing console or some gui like ark?02:00
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kevyni use the console02:00
kevyni gonna try in ark02:00
mortenskytshouldn't make a difference02:01
kevyndun know02:01
mortenskytyou just followed instructions on the site of easyubuntu?02:01
kevyni did02:01
mortenskytwhere the step after downloading would be tar -zxf easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz02:01
mortenskytok02:01
mortenskytand when doing that, the redhat-cluster-error comes?02:01
kevyndownloading its just cut and paste02:01
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Hawkwindkevyn: Please use pastebin from now on02:01
Hawkwind!pastebin02:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:02
mortenskytanyway, if the error is at that early a stage, it's nothing to do with easyubuntu02:02
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kevynCopy paste the code below to get and run EasyUbuntu.02:03
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otaku-sanHawkwind: instead of make install it's cleaninstall...right?02:03
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kevynis there a other way02:03
mortenskytthan their instructions?02:03
Hawkwindotaku-san: There is a make clean02:03
faisalhi all02:03
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mortenskytcan't see what that should be, easyubuntu is not officially supported02:03
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mortenskytwell, another solution would be automatix02:04
kevynhow cant i dual screening02:04
AdoreHello every body , i need help02:04
mortenskytbasically the same thing, just a bit.... hm.... more rough around the edges02:04
kevynwith windows your there in 2clicks02:04
Adorei want to open wav file in Ubuntu02:04
Adorehow?02:04
Admiral_ChicagoAdore, open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install amarok"02:05
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AdoreThank you very much02:05
Admiral_Chicagoor actually, right click and go to open with amarok02:05
Admiral_Chicagoit should be installed02:05
mortenskytlol, that's heavy for a simple wav02:05
kevynbut with kubuntu02:05
mortenskytwhy not just gmplayer or kaffeine?02:05
otaku-sanHawkwind: hmmm heard something about if I want to have a compiled file easier to uninstall later...I should so cleaninstall or something...thought it was you ;)02:05
Adoreaha02:05
Adorei will try it now02:05
AdoreThanks for helping me02:06
mortenskyton kubuntu/ubuntu it's pretty simple to, if you have a normal, working installation, it should be a matter of downloading easyubuntu and two more clicks away ati-drivers would be02:06
Admiral_ChicagoAdore, no problem02:06
Hawkwindotaku-san: You mean checkinstall ?02:06
kevynbut i Cant use easy ubuntu02:06
otaku-sanHawkwind: heheh that's it....glad I asked you...02:06
kevynthat a problrm02:07
Hawkwind!checkinstall02:07
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.02:07
mortenskytindeed02:07
mortenskytit sounds a lot like your installation is rather messed up02:07
mortenskytanyway, as I said, you can go for the more rough-around-the-edges way called "automatix"02:07
kevyni'm gonna reinstall kubuntu02:07
mortenskytgood idea02:08
Admiral_Chicagogoh #ubuntu is crazy02:08
kevynist gonna be a verry easy way02:08
otaku-san#ubuntu02:08
mortenskyteasyubuntu is, automatix is too, but my experience in it hasn't been all great02:08
kevynk see you later gonna install kubuntu again02:09
mortenskytsay you take 10 apps in automatix, only 7 or so will actually end up being installed and working afterwards02:09
mortenskyteasyubuntu seems to work always02:09
kevynbut not with my workstationb02:09
shadowr3dhelp i need help installing windows media player 11 beta 2 on kubuntu ive already downloaded it to the desktop02:09
mortenskytenjoy02:09
mortenskytshadowr3d: that's not possible02:10
mortenskytwhat you need that for anyway?02:10
shadowr3dwhy not02:10
shadowr3dso i can have it02:10
mortenskytit's microsoft-land, microsoft and linux are competitors02:10
shadowr3di know02:10
lotusleafsome people need their spyware fix02:10
mortenskytso microsoft does what it can to make incompatible software02:10
shadowr3dbut cant i run under wine?02:10
mortenskytbest thing I can suggest is install w32codecs-pack02:10
shadowr3dwhats that02:11
lotusleafshadowr3d: have you tried #winehq that's the wine channel02:11
mortenskytthat'll make your system capable of playing non-drm wmp9-files02:11
shadowr3do yeah how do you get that02:11
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otaku-sanI think the latest windows media player thats not *garbage* is like 10...02:11
mortenskyteasiest way is to follow the instructions for installing easyubuntu and select whatever codecs it has in it02:12
mortenskytget it here: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html02:12
shadowr3dme right?02:12
mortenskytyes02:12
shadowr3dok02:12
mortenskyt!easyubuntu02:12
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:12
shadowr3dill try it02:12
mortenskyt(-:02:12
shadowr3dwhat do you mean use at your own risk?02:13
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proudfoot__!flash02:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:13
mortenskyteasyubuntu isn't officially supported02:13
otaku-sanshadowr3d: it's good to do what morenskyt said because it enables you to play the same things that WMP plays but on Linux apps02:13
shadowr3dso should i get that easyubuntu or not?02:13
mortenskytindeed you should get easyubuntu for windows media player02:14
shadowr3d?ok im lost now02:14
mortenskytI never had easyubuntu fail on me, it's pretty failsafe02:14
shadowr3dok ill go get it02:14
mortenskyt(-:02:14
shadowr3di dont know what to do at easyubuntu02:15
mortenskyt\-: you're pretty new to linux, no?02:16
mortenskytaight, for you:02:16
mortenskytfire up the konsole, do this by hitting alt + f2 and type "konsole" and hit enter02:16
shadowr3dive been using it for about for 4 months02:16
mortenskytin the console type, one line at a time, whatever it says in the first orange box on the http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html02:17
mortenskytoki02:17
shadowr3dok02:17
mortenskytonce you did all that in the box, easyubuntu should appear02:17
shadowr3dill try02:17
shadowr3dwhere will it appear?02:17
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mortenskyteasyubuntu?02:17
shadowr3dyes02:17
mortenskytas a window in the middle of your screen, don't worry, you won't miss it02:18
shadowr3dok02:18
shadowr3dhere i go02:18
mortenskyto, and don't be scared, the output it'll show int the console will be quite scary02:18
mortenskytit'll probably say a lot of errors, just ignore them, they don't mean anything, when it says it's done, it's done02:18
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mortenskytanyway, g'night, (it's 2:20 am here), see ya'll02:19
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shadowr3dum ok help me here i copied and pasted into konsole but there are three boxes02:19
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AdoreShall i ask about the pest softwear fot Ubuntu to send and recive e-mails for windows live beta ? please i need help02:20
Adoresoftwere*02:20
Adoresoftware*02:21
Adoresorry02:21
lotusleafpest software for windows live? ;)02:21
reeed;)02:21
Adoreit's on msn02:21
Adorelive beta02:21
lotusleafwhat a beautiful typo02:21
Adoresorry02:21
Adorei am from egypt02:21
Adorei just rty02:22
Adoretry*02:22
lotusleafno, thank you!02:22
AdoreShall you help me02:22
Adorei can't open my e-mail here02:22
lotusleafAdore: you might ask in one of the windows related channels, or #winehq02:22
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Adorein ubuntu02:22
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Adorethank you02:23
Adorei will go02:23
lotusleafAdore: yw02:23
|brad|so does anyone have a good up to date howto for compiz/xgl on a nvidia/amd64 system? i think ive used everyone that ive found and havent got it to work02:23
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Phoenix92xhiya, how does one add programs to the k start menu?02:43
Phoenix92xI see the option for "add / remove programs" but I seem to think that has to do with adept02:43
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HawkwindPhoenix92x: kmenuedit02:44
Phoenix92xthank you02:44
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otaku-sanhey n00b question but how do you check what processes are running02:49
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Hawkwindotaku-san: ps aux  or top02:51
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Xcaliburyo02:51
Xcaliburhow do i enable w32codecs02:51
Xcalibur?02:52
gnomefreak!w32codecs02:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:52
gnomefreakXcalibur: ^^^02:52
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otaku-sanHawkwind: how would I kill one of these processes?02:54
Hawkwindotaku-san: kill <pid#>02:55
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otaku-sanHawkwind: the <pid> is that the process followed by a # or is it and < the process and an # then a >?02:55
Hawkwindotaku-san: Example:  kill 123402:57
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Hawkwindotaku-san: Or, killall gedit02:57
Hawkwindotaku-san: killall will kill *all* processes of gedit in that example of course02:57
AZ_ASthere a way to test sound in Kubuntu that's running as a virtual machine?02:57
AZ_ASI think I may have configured VMWare to let it use my sound card but I want to test and make sure02:58
otaku-sanYeah it killed it!02:58
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AZ_ASnever mind, just opened up KMix, and it works :)03:00
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jeffleeAlgum brasileiro neste canal?03:05
Hawkwind!br03:05
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.03:05
jeffleethanks03:06
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charimshi everyone, i am trying to make an install, but i get an error, please look at this. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2239703:06
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HawkwindAnyone here know how to start Crossover Office once it's installed via a deb package ?03:09
Xcaliburi have it03:10
Hawkwindcharims: What are you compiling, and why are you compiling ?03:10
Xcaliburand it was a .sh03:10
HawkwindXcalibur: This is installed from a deb.  I just need to know how to start it03:10
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Xcaliburif it's not in the K menu, I'm not sure, rsorry03:10
HawkwindXcalibur: I don't use KDE03:10
Xcaliburo03:11
Xcaliburit what you use then03:11
Xcaliburxfce03:11
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Xcaliburgnome03:11
Xcalibur?03:11
HawkwindLOL thankfully, no.  I use E1703:11
XcaliburI have never used, or seen, lol03:12
charimsHawkwind: an alsa thing crimsun told me to compile... to fix my sound03:12
charimshawkwind: alsa-driver-1.0.12rc103:12
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bettyI have a question03:13
crimsun1.0.13rc1, you mean?03:13
drizhello i need to uinstall a prinmter03:13
driz?03:13
bettyWhy dosen't Katapult work?03:13
charimscrimsun: oops, yes03:13
bettyI pressed alt+space and nothing happens03:13
charimshawkwind: correction thats 1.0.13rc103:13
charimscrimsun: hello btw03:14
Hawkwindcharims: I'll let crimsun help you since you and he were working on this earlier03:14
drizinstall a printer?03:14
charimscrimsun: can u help me with that, for some reason it won't make an install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2239703:14
crimsuncharims: I'm fairly busy atm but will return in ~30 mins03:14
charimscrimsun: ok, ty03:14
bettyDoes anyone know why Katapult dosen't work?03:15
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AZ_ASuh oh...any chance I can get KDM back? since the login screen looks different now03:16
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Hawkwindbetty: Doesn't work is a pretty vague phrase.  Mind stating your problem/issue and be as specific as possible03:18
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bettyWhen I press ALT+Space nothing happens03:21
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soulriderhi everyone03:25
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CheeseBurgerManbetty: Is Katapult running?03:27
CheeseBurgerManbetty: You can check with either KSysGuard or by running 'ps aux | grep katapult'03:27
charimshow to set password for super user?03:30
Hawkwindsudo passwd03:31
charimsthanks hawkwind03:32
pierrethi am unable to open mailto links03:32
pierrethhow can i fix this?03:32
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drizhey guys i need help installing a printer Brother HL-1440... but i have no idea where to start?03:35
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Hawkwinddriz: systemsettings -> Printers03:36
drizHawkwind: is it going to be an easy install.03:37
Hawkwinddriz: Couldn't tell you.  I use Epson printers03:37
drizoh ok03:38
charimshey, i want to test something, i don't know if it works in kopete, will someone jsut type my name in a message? Thankyou03:39
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lterscharims: test03:40
Hawkwindcharims: No!03:40
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charimsthankyou :) wanted to see if it would highlight it in kopete03:41
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[-KaSatKa-] Does anyone know where I can find good Panel Background Images?03:45
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ubuntu!grub03:45
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:45
ubuntugah03:45
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ubuntu!gpm03:46
ubotugpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB03:46
ubuntu!apt-get03:46
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)03:46
Kr4t05!botabuse03:46
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops03:46
CheeseBurgerMan_[-KaSatKa-] : http://kde-look.org has some.03:46
[-KaSatKa-] CheeseBurgerMan_: Under what section?03:47
CheeseBurgerMan_[-KaSatKa-] : Don't remember, let me have a look.03:47
ubuntuKr4t05: i'm trying to figure out how to unlock the universe repo, from a text editor03:47
Hawkwind!repos03:47
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:47
ubuntuwhat's the file name?03:47
we6jboAnyone hear about the man that lived til he was 999 years of age?03:47
Hawkwindubuntu: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list03:48
CheeseBurgerMan_[-KaSatKa-] : Apparently most of them are in 'other'03:48
ubuntuHawkwind: thanks03:48
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[-KaSatKa-] CheeseBurgerMan_: Thanks alot03:48
HazHey, I was wondering: How do you go about changing your personal message for MSN? Thanks in advance.03:48
CheeseBurgerMan_[-KaSatKa-] : You're welcome. :)03:48
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HawkwindHaz: Ummm, you mean on Gaim or something ?03:48
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Hazer03:49
HazKopete*03:49
Hazsorry03:49
Hawkwindwe6jbo: Probably the wrong channel for that03:49
Hazforgot to include that xD03:49
HawkwindHaz: Ah don't know.  I don't use kopete03:49
nonickname.. i just unlocked the universe repo, but still no gpm03:49
pierrethmy mailto: urls are not working03:49
Hazkay, thanks anyway :D03:49
Hawkwindnonickname: Did you do sudo apt-get update ?03:49
pierrethwhat can I do?03:49
nonicknameHawkwind: didn't think about that. one sec..03:49
drizHAHAH yes wow that was an easy install for my printer now to set up a network between my computers... How would I start that?03:49
Hawkwindnonickname: You always have to do that after enabling a new repo so you can download the lists03:50
nonicknameahh, woot, mouse support03:50
Hawkwinddriz: Samba03:50
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ltersdriz: 2 linux boxes?03:50
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drizlters: yes03:51
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AZ_ASanyone got a moment here to help me out with getting Kubuntu to look like it did before I stupidly quit in the middle of KDM, something I didn't want to remove (happened when I was trying to uninstall Nicotine and the associated python files with it)03:51
ltersdriz: just to share files? use nfs. sudo vi /etc/exports03:52
AZ_ASadept's gone, applets are gone03:52
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ltersdriz: than exportfs -r to reread the shares there.03:52
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ltersAZ_AS: sudo apt-get --purge kdm;apt-get install kdm03:53
ltersAZ_AS: oops, sudo after the ;03:53
AZ_ASpurge kdm first and then reinstall it?03:53
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AZ_ASokie dokie, gonna try that03:53
ltersthat is what I would do (debian for me tho, but same diff)03:53
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drizlters: why not samba I want to share my printers fileshare and stuff like music and such03:53
driz!samba03:54
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:54
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ltersdriz: nfs is super simple.03:54
ltersno user/pass needed.03:54
ltersjust an ip.03:54
drizis it graphical also03:54
AZ_ASlters, said "invalid operation kdm"03:54
ltersu just get another mounted folder.03:55
ltersAZ_AS: sudo apt-get --purge remove kdm03:55
drizok then i'll try the nfs thing and use CUSP for the printing03:55
[-KaSatKa-] I downloaded and installed kbfx, how do I use it?03:55
Hawkwinddriz: You can view it in konqueror just like a regular directory03:55
drizHawkwind Samba03:56
driz>?03:56
AZ_ASok, it's asking me if I wish to stop the kdm daemon...yes or no?03:56
Hawkwinddriz: I thought you had a Windows box and a Linux box, that's why I stated Samba03:56
ltersdriz: in /etc/exports you need one line like this: /home/myshare 10.1.1.1(rw,sync)03:56
HawkwindAZ_AS: If you do, it'll kill KDE03:56
CheeseBurgerMan[-KaSatKa-] : Right click on your panel, click on "add applet", and add the kbfx applet.03:56
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Genericwhat's kbfx? I forget03:56
ltersAZ_AS:  do ALT+TRL+F1 to get a console prompt03:57
HawkwindGeneric: KDE menu stuff03:57
Genericah03:57
Genericdescriptive!03:57
[-KaSatKa-] CheeseBurgerMan_: Ahh, yes. Thanks again :D03:57
HawkwindGeneric: apt-cache search kbfx and read it yourself then03:57
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AZ_ASok, lters and then restore kdm from there?03:57
GenericHA03:58
ltersAZ_AS: do the remove and than the reinstall.03:58
ltersAZ_AS: than do the /etc/init.d/kdm start if it is not done for you.03:58
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icethelp: how to disable automatic login (without using X)03:59
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drizI'm lost I odnt know how to use vi03:59
ltersGeneric: apt-cache show kbfx03:59
AZ_ASsaid it's unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)03:59
Hawkwinddriz: i for insert04:00
ltersdiz: sudo -s04:00
Hawkwinddriz: ESC :wq  to quit and save04:00
ltersHawkwind: vi is awesome.04:00
Hawkwindlters: Of course it is04:00
drizoh man04:01
drizOK how do i learn vi04:01
icetI'm a newbie at vi myself. Basically, you have a command mode and a edit mode04:01
driz?04:01
Hawkwinddriz: http://www.jess2.net/doc/vicmd.png04:01
Hawkwinddriz: Print it with your newly installed printer04:01
icetat vi, if you type, say, "o", you insert aline and enter edit mode04:01
icetnow next "o" or any other letter you type will be the real letter o04:02
icetto exit edit mode, type ESC04:02
icetto edit current cursor position, use "a"04:02
lterstricky part is understanding that vi has a "command bar" at the bottom. and u need ESC than : to enter cmds.04:02
Hawkwindicet: Look at the URL I just gave04:02
drizHawkwind: I will but i need the network thing first and for most i need to access the music on my other computer04:03
Hawkwindicet: It explains it all for him04:03
Hawkwinddriz: No you don't04:03
Hawkwinddriz: Print that FIRST so you know how to use vi to setup NFS04:03
drizlol yes i do04:03
icetawsome page :-)04:03
charimscrimsun: are you still busy?04:03
icetbump-help: how to disable automatic login (without using X)04:03
HawkwindTo get NFS setup you need to know how to use vi.  Until you learn that, you're pretty much screwed04:04
HazHey, I was wondering: How do you go about changing your personal message for MSN in Kopete? Thanks in advance :D04:04
crimsuncharims: yes, for about 10 more mins04:04
charimscrimsun: kk :)04:04
Hawkwindicet: As in you want to boot to CLI instead of GUI ?04:04
icetas in I can't login to kde anymore because gnome is my default session :-)04:05
[-KaSatKa-] How can I add one of those monitor things that show you like cpu, RAM, usage, etc?04:05
Hawkwindicet: Read this post on my forums:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=556.004:05
Haz[-KaSatKa-] , to the desktop?04:05
Hawkwind[-KaSatKa-] : sudo apt-get install gkrellm04:05
Hazmeh04:05
Haz:p04:05
Hawkwind[-KaSatKa-] : Or install superkaramba04:05
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lters[-KaSatKa-] : or gdesklets or use the kde ones.04:06
[-KaSatKa-] Thanks guys04:07
Hawkwindsuperkaramba being the kde ones :P04:07
drizThis is frustating firefox keeps crashing this is the second time04:07
ltersno04:07
Hawkwindlters: Ummm, yes it is04:07
ltersok ;)04:07
Hawkwind!superkaramba04:07
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org04:07
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Hawkwind!gkrellm04:08
ubotugkrellm: multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] . In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 388 kB, installed size 948 kB04:08
ltersthere is the kde performance thingy too.04:08
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skavenge yeah, superkaramba ;)04:08
ltersand an add on applet for the task bar..04:08
AZ_ASlters, tried what you suggested but kept getting an error message...thinking I'll delete this virtual machine and create a new one with Kubuntu and learn to be more careful next time :p04:08
Hawkwindlters: Yeah, it's called superkaramba04:08
HawkwindHah04:08
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ltersAZ_AS: an error?04:09
AZ_ASyup04:09
ltersare u root?04:09
lterssudo -s04:09
AZ_ASI've already deleted it :/ so too late to fix it04:09
AZ_ASthat's how I get into root?04:09
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icetthanks for the help, this will take a while04:09
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AZ_ASby typing sudo -s?04:10
lterssure04:10
ltersor su -04:10
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skavengesudo -i is the reccomended way04:10
skavenge10 ways to skin a cat though04:10
ltersAZ_AS: if all else fails ;) dpkg --force-all --purge kdm than start over.04:10
AZ_ASwhy's that, skavenge? I mean, sudo -i being the recommended way?04:10
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AZ_ASok, sweet...ty :)04:11
drizwow interesting vi tutorial thing cool04:11
ltersAZ_AS: sudo is very powerful04:11
skavengeAZ_AS: its consider the 'safest', there's info about the different instances of root on the wiki if your interested in reading up, or check the !root bang04:11
fernandohi! I just bought an enclosure, usb, for hdd. but I plug it in with a partitioned hard drive in it and nothing happens. How do I mount it_04:12
ltersand safer( you can block who has sudo powers ) visudo04:12
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AZ_ASsure, can read about it on the wiki...I've got time, going to be reinstalling kubuntu on this virtual machine but at least I know what to do in the future :p04:12
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drizok i printed the vi thing now NFS please :-)04:15
Hawkwind!nfs04:15
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.04:15
drizthank you04:15
AZ_ASthanks for your help, lters :)04:15
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nonickname=/04:16
soulriderdoes anyone know of a program that can tell me my processor temperature?04:16
nonicknamei'm about to unmount my root partition04:16
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Hawkwindsoulrider: gkrellm can04:16
Hawkwindsoulrider: As can superkaramba04:17
skavengejust need the right module/plugin04:17
soulrideryea, i was using superkaramba for other stuff04:17
nnn0i like conky04:17
nnn0conky is pretty neat04:18
Hawkwindsoulrider: With gkrellm you don't need anything.  Just set it up in Preferences04:18
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nonicknamewhat if grub is on my linux partition and my mbr?04:18
soulriderim downloading it right now04:18
crimsuncharims: pong. What's up?04:18
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nonicknamenvm04:19
nnn0soulrider: http://images.google.com/images?q=conky :D04:19
charimscrimsun: i can't seem to make the install, sudo make ran fine, but sudo make install won't, here's the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2239704:19
nnn0conky is very easy to configure04:20
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Phoenix92xhi, running dapper on a Dell Latitude D610 (laptop) with a Radeon X300, I think I have the 3d drivers installed right but I can't tell, is there some sort of way I can test and see if they're functioning properly?04:20
soulrideri need to learn how to make everything transparent04:20
soulrideri love the ye candy :P04:20
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nnn0than you will love conky :D04:21
juaconame04:21
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Hawkwindsoulrider: gkrellm -> themes -> invisible04:21
Hawkwindsoulrider: Simple as that :P04:21
soulrideri meant for every app04:22
soulrideri played witht he kde settings a bit04:22
Hawkwindsoulrider: Not every app can do transparency though04:22
soulriderbut not everything would become transparent04:22
soulridernot even everything in the kicker04:22
crimsuncharims: did you ./configure [..]  first?04:22
HawkwindFor true transparency, you need xcompmgr and transset04:22
driz!paste04:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:22
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charimscrimsun: no, didn't know i had to, run the command jsut like that?04:23
soulriderHawkwind: gkrellm wont show temp :/04:23
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Hawkwindsoulrider: Set it up first and it will04:24
crimsuncharims: which sound chipset do you have?04:24
nnn0soulrider: maybe you don't have a termometer ?04:24
[-KaSatKa-] Is there a way to remove that thing that comes up with the buttefly when you highlight the kbfx menu?04:24
soulrider:/04:24
Hawkwindsoulrider: Does your system have a thermometer in it for it ?04:24
soulrideri was assuming i had one04:24
soulridersince its a new comp04:24
nnn0soulrider: how old is this system ?04:24
charimscrimsun: umm, Nvidia Ck804:24
nnn0ah okey - then it should have it04:24
skavenge[-KaSatKa-] : well if you have another icon you can change it04:25
Hawkwindsoulrider: Then set it up in gkrellm04:25
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Hawkwindsoulrider: http://seerofsouls.com/screenshots/Hawkwind12.png04:25
soulrideri got it less than a month ago04:25
crimsuncharims: start over. Erase the current ~/alsadriver you have, unextract it, change into that directory, then execute ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-cards=intel8x0 --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build && make && sudo make install04:25
Hawkwindsoulrider: Configuration -> Builtins -> Sensors04:25
drizhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22401--. can someone please check these errors out04:25
charimscrimsun: kk, glad i didn't delete the file...04:25
Hawkwindsoulrider: By default it's not on.  You have to set it up04:25
obf213!gksudo04:26
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}04:26
nnn0you mean kdesu ?04:26
nnn0!kdesu04:27
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:27
soulriderHawkwind: i like how hte tyransparency is set up on your system04:27
soulrideri dont like the color theme though :P04:27
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charimscrimsun: The file /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/include/linux/version.h does not exist. Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /usr/src/linux).04:27
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charimscrimsun: should i download the kernel sources?04:28
crimsuncharims: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:28
Hawkwindsoulrider: Thanks.  I use a different wm though :P04:28
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charimscrimsun: thanks, its doing it now04:30
soulriderwm ?04:31
skavengewindow manager04:31
soulriderah04:32
skavengeHawkwind uses e17 instead of kde04:32
charimscrimsun: its done, must i restart my system04:32
soulrideris that the one hats supposed to be really ncie adn lightwheigh ?04:32
skavengeask him ;)04:32
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crimsunout for a bit.04:38
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Kr4t05Ok...04:40
Kr4t05Question.04:40
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Kr4t05I have a shell script that calls the command lndir. Would that be the equivalant of ln -s?04:41
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Kr4t05Bah...04:45
Kr4t05Help?04:45
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charimscrimsun: ping04:51
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drizI dont know how to start setting up this network now04:59
driz?04:59
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[-KaSatKa-] how can i open WINE to uninstall a program?05:00
digivoreIs there an alternative to 'Wireless Assistant'   in Kubuntu?05:00
midspeedhi everybody, i need help!!! NOW!!!, ha ha ha, my question is: how do i change the permission of a folder in kubuntu, because i mounted another hard drive and i need to see whats inside05:00
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[-KaSatKa-] chmod 77705:01
[-KaSatKa-] like "sudo chmod 777 /home/me/Desktop/test05:01
midspeedORIGATO! MR ROBATO! jk, thanks KaSatKa05:02
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[-KaSatKa-] Haha, no problem05:02
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japkegebruikt m'n nederlands of engels?05:05
Hawkwind!de05:05
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:05
HawkwindErmmm05:05
Hawkwind!nl05:05
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl05:05
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AshexFor some reason, there's a hotkey applet controlling my volume keys05:12
Ashexand it's doing a terrible job05:12
Ashexanyone know what the name of this mysterious hotkey utility is in edgy eft?05:13
shriramhello everybody! i'm new to kubuntu. doesn't it support reiserfs?05:14
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timthelionI have 3 computers.  right now. one is set up with fetchmail.  is there a way to make that one serve as though it were a pop server, those emails wich it downloads to the other 2 computers?05:19
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phisrowGreetings all. I'm new to testing; but want to give it a try. I'm looking for information on submitting the most useful bug reports possible.05:26
phisrowAre there guides out there, ideally specific to this distributition, about using gdb and other such tools, building packages with symbols, and so on?05:27
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dein|enslavednot sure phisrow05:28
dein|enslavedask later when there is more activity k?05:29
skavengeedgy would be the version you'd want to be doing that with, and thier channel is #ubuntu+105:29
TehKewl1something screwed up in my wireless card setup, now as soon as I plug it in, everything goes wrong05:29
TehKewl1it works fine with a live CD05:29
phisrowThanks Dein|enslaved and Skavenge. I'll try over there.05:29
TehKewl1and it worked yesterday up until when I got the router to actually work05:29
TehKewl1how do I set the network settings back?05:31
TehKewl1wow, the viruses are flocking into windows05:31
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TehKewl1hurry I don't think AVG will hold up for long05:33
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Phoenix92xhi, I need some help badly, I was trying to get the ATI (fglrx) driver working on my install of dapper drake on a Dell Latitude D610 and I managed to screw it up pretty badly. I'm having trouble getting it to boot in the usual visual way what with the blue gears and all. I can get into recovery mode (where I am now).05:38
Phoenix92xAfter my first attempt at switching to fglrx the visuals were all overlapping and fractured, the fonts were blurry, and the res was wrong (max it gave was 1200 x 1024, LCD on the machine needs 1400x1050 or it gets screwy.)05:38
Phoenix92xI don't quite know what to do or where to begin with fixing it05:39
Phoenix92xxorg was never my strong point05:39
SpAwN!ati05:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:40
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Phoenix92xI need X working and useable again way more than I need the ATI drivers working05:40
JKnifewhat is the command to start KDE from console?05:41
Phoenix92xI'm freaked and I need this machine to work properly tomorrow05:41
HawkwindJKnife: startx05:41
JKnifehi Hawkwind05:41
HawkwindPhoenix92x: Is there a backup copy of your xorg.conf in /etc/X11/  ?05:41
JucatoHawkwind:  or "sudo /etc/init.d/kmd start"?05:41
SpAwNPhoenix92x, u can try to change the xorg.conf to a gneric driver05:41
HawkwindJucato: Or that :P05:41
Jucatos/kmd/kdm05:41
SpAwNPhoenix92x, like vesa05:41
Phoenix92xHawkwind: what would it be labled? the backup I mean? I never made one, I hadnt messed with xorg till this day05:41
Jucatosorry, that was supposed to be "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"05:41
alexiconhrmm for some reason my firefox extensions have stopped working05:41
Phoenix92xgod oh god I should not have attempted this on my work machine..05:42
HawkwindPhoenix92x: Look in /etc/X11 and see05:42
JKnife... i mean like for XFCE4 you have startxfce4 and gnome you have gnome-session05:42
SpAwNPhoenix92x, probly somthing like xorg.conf~ or xorg.conf.backup05:42
alexiconi have a dl version of firefox 1.5.0.6 installed in my home dir05:42
HawkwindJKnife: startkde ?05:42
JKnifeso no version number after it.. ok05:42
JKnifethanks05:42
alexiconwhen i boot into suse the extensions work fine, but not in kbunutu anymore05:42
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Phoenix92xI have 8 files with xorg\05:42
Hawkwindalexicon: Why not just sudo apt-get install firefox  and use the version Kubuntu gives you ?05:42
Phoenix92xxorg.conf05:42
HawkwindPhoenix92x: Don't paste them all here05:43
Jucato!pastebin05:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:43
HawkwindPhoenix92x: Look for one that says -old or .old or something similar05:43
alexiconthe version of firefox apt gives me doesnt allow me to middle click links into the page directly05:43
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Phoenix92xI was just going to give the filenames05:43
alexiconi always have to use the address bar and that drives me crazy05:43
Hawkwindalexicon: Strange...it does here05:43
alexiconD:05:43
Phoenix92xare filenames ok?05:43
alexiconthis is the second install of kubuntu ive had and the firefox wont cooperate05:43
HawkwindPhoenix92x: Just tell us...don't paste...do you have an xorg.conf-old or something similar ?05:43
Jucatoalexicon: what do you mean? what happens when you middle click on links?05:43
alexiconno i mean if you highlight a link in irc, then middle click anywhere on the browser to load the page in that tab05:44
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Phoenix92xxorg.conf.orginal-005:44
Phoenix92xI didnt make it though, I have no idea what did lol05:44
Jucatoalexicon: is Firefox set as the default browser?05:44
HawkwindPhoenix92x: sudo cp -a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original-0 /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:44
alexiconyeah Jucato05:45
Jucatohm...05:45
Phoenix92xHawkwind: ok, I really hope this works05:45
HawkwindPhoenix92x: You can always do:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and that will create a new xorg.conf for you05:45
alexiconah and my theme stopped working in this firefox05:46
Jucatowhat version of firefox is installed in SUSE?05:47
larson9999am i crazy or does evolution not let you drag and drop email from your inbox to other folders?05:47
HawkwindYou really should stick with what the distro gives you.  Compiling things on a deb based distro is never really a good thing05:47
alexiconbut it all works in suse05:47
alexiconJucato: its a shared home dir05:47
alexiconsame installation05:47
alexiconmaybe suse pwnd it or something05:47
Phoenix92xWrite Default Files section to configuration file?05:47
Jucatoalexicon: oh so you're not using SUSE version of Firefox either?05:47
Phoenix92xI'm unfamiliar with what that's asking05:47
alexiconnope05:47
HawkwindPhoenix92x: Yes05:47
alexiconalthough i didnt chose that Jucato05:47
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alexiconit just found my firefox and started to use it05:48
Jucatoah...05:48
larson9999i almost never use the 'distro' version of ff05:48
Hawkwindlarson9999: Shame on you05:48
alexiconnah distro doesnt update ff fast enough05:48
HawkwindThough I just build deb packages of the stuff I want05:48
larson9999same with openoffice05:48
Jucatohm... it did update FF fast this time05:48
Hawkwindalexicon: Not always true.  Even if they don't, build your own05:48
HawkwindJucato: Hah not this last time05:49
alexicongood point Hawkwind :)05:49
HawkwindJucato: FF is still at 1.5.0.5 currently in Dapper.  Latest version available is 1.5.0.605:49
Jucatowell, at least until 1.5.0.4.. :-D05:49
larson9999Hawkwind: yeah, that's best.  does checkinstall qualify as building your own?  or should i learn how to really build my own?05:49
HawkwindEwwwwwwwwwwwwww05:49
Jucatocoz they're too busy doing Edgy stuff...05:49
HawkwindI wouldn't tell my worst enemy to use checkinstall05:49
Hawkwindlarson9999: Learn to build your own.  It's damn easy05:49
Jucatolol...05:49
alexiconhrm maybe i'll just reinstall ff, i think suse may have grabbed something for itself05:49
larson9999guess i'll cross that off my list05:49
JucatoHawkwind is saying the complete opposite of what's being taught in #ubuntu-classroom :-D05:50
Hawkwindlarson9999: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5100305:50
HawkwindJucato: LOL.  Sad that they teach new users to use an app that can, has, and will destroy a system05:50
Jucatoabout the advantage of using checkinstall vs make install...05:50
HawkwindJucato: Well sure...checkinstall over make install.  But don't do either.  Build stuff properly and you won't use either05:51
JucatoHawkwind: what should be used then?05:51
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Jucatobtw, they're also teaching about building from deb-src05:51
HawkwindJucato: The URL I just pasted05:51
HawkwindJucato: Building from deb-src is even better05:51
bmwHi!  Got a serious problem.  Anyone up for it?05:51
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HawkwindJucato: The URL I pasted above is a quick and easy way for most all users to build a deb package05:51
Hawkwindbmw: Just ask05:52
JucatoHawkwind: only if the version that you want to build is the one in the repositorioes05:52
HawkwindJucato: Huh ?05:52
larson9999Hawkwind: athat does look perty easy05:52
Jucatowhat if you're building a version of a package that's not included in the repositories yet?05:52
HawkwindJucato: You use deb-src to get the source of an app, then you can build a newer version from that05:52
HawkwindJucato: It's complicated to explain if you don't know how to build packages really05:52
Jucato:-p05:53
bmwKewl. I did an update from within breezy to dapper.  Working fine until a reboot and then it says it can't fined the filesystem  I get an ERROR 17 from the GRUB installer.  Ideas?05:53
HawkwindJucato: Gotta remember, I've been building for 3+ years...though it was rpms.  But the process is basically the same05:53
JucatoAll I know is checkinstall or build-dep then apt-get -b :-D05:53
HawkwindJucato: Read the URL I posted.  You too can build debs very easily :)05:53
HawkwindJucato: Without using either of those 3 commands you just listed05:54
JucatoI'll read it after the "class". it's about to start in a few minutes...05:54
Jucatobtw, I think it was mentioned in the class that you can use apt-get build-dep and -b to build from Debian repositories...05:54
Jucatosafely...05:54
HawkwindMajority of the times, just not always05:55
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drizanyone please network help?05:59
bmwAnyone got ideas on how to repair the filesystem after an update from breezy to dapper.  It won't boot up and I need the files before I do a reinstall.05:59
drizi need to put a network between two linux computers06:00
XVampireXThat's easy06:00
bmwdriz: wazup?06:00
XVampireXYou need NFS or Samba06:00
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Hawkwinddriz: NFS is the easiest. Takes less than 3 minutes06:00
Hawkwinddriz: A simple edit of a file, then mount the share06:00
drizbmw: good.06:01
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drizHawkwind i tried the web page but i got nothing.06:01
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XVampireXI find that samba is easier, but it's not better :P06:01
Hawkwinddriz: You simply edit /etc/exports on the computer you want to see the files *of*06:02
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Hawkwinddriz: Here is mine from my mandriva box:   /storage   192.168.1.101(rw,sync,all_squash,anonuid=501,anongid=501,no_subtree_check)06:02
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flacciddisk utils to check health of paritioning and stuff like that?06:03
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Hawkwinddriz: kdesu mount 192.168.1.102:/storage /archives/myserver/ &06:03
TehKewl1can anyone help me with a wireless card issue now?06:03
Hawkwinddriz: Then I run that command on this box, and it's mounted.  I just go to: /archives/myserver in konqueror to see the files from the Mandriva box06:04
bmwSo, anyone got any answers on how to rebuild filesystem after upgrading from Breezy to Dapper?  System won't boot up.06:04
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Hawkwinddriz: That's just how simple it is06:04
drizok cool i'm going to try and do it now06:05
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Hawkwinddriz: You of course want to edit yours accordingly as far as /paths and IP#'s06:05
TehKewl1my wireless card setup messed up so as soon as I plug it in, everything screws up06:05
TehKewl1how do I set the network settings back the way they were?06:05
Hawkwinddriz: Also, make sure nfs is installed of course06:06
Hawkwinddriz: Once it is, on the box you want to see the files of after you edit /etc/exports, you need to restart the NFS service06:06
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Phoenix92xhawkwind: thank you very much, my machine is useable again06:07
Phoenix92xI'll try getting fglrx to work properly at a later date and with more planning06:07
Phoenix92xthank you!06:07
drizsudo apt-get install nfs?06:07
HawkwindPhoenix92x: No problem :)06:07
Hawkwinddriz: Possibly06:08
crimsuncharims: pong06:08
driznope06:08
drizdoesnt work06:08
Hawkwinddriz: I don't know what the Ubuntu package for NFS is06:08
charimscrimsun: wb, i installed the driver, what should i do now?06:08
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Hawkwinddriz: nfs-common06:08
drizok06:09
Hawkwinddriz: You could find that answer by doing:  apt-cache search nfs06:09
crimsuncharims: ...test it?06:09
BadTasteHi06:09
charimscrimsun: it works jsut the same as the last driver06:09
drizHawkwind: will do for next ime06:09
crimsuncharims: what is the symptom?06:09
bmwAnyone got ideas on how to repair an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper and save the /home folder?06:09
charimscrimsun: no sound, except through gaim, and now aplay06:10
charimscrimsun: though i am nto sure they sound correct through aplay06:10
crimsuncharims: No sound at all? Is arts configured?06:10
charimscrimsun: not that i have done, how do i go about that?06:11
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crimsuncharims: look in the KDE Control under multimedia06:11
bmwcharims: are your spkrs plugged in and turned on?06:12
flaccidis there a linux/kde equiv of tracktor dj studio/win ?06:12
bmwJust thought I'd ask.06:12
Hawkwindflaccid: Have you searched on freshmeat ?06:12
flaccidnope06:12
charimscrimsun: yes, becuase i can get sound on from gaim and aplay06:12
shriramhey guys! i just installed kubuntu. Is there a default root password?06:12
maltaethironztem06:13
ZtemPaul.06:13
shrirami was never asked to enter one during the installation06:13
Hawkwindshriram: No06:13
Diuneimama!pkg-config06:13
ubotupkg-config: manage compile and link flags for libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20-1 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 180 kB06:13
Jucatoflaccid: you could also check in http://www.kde-apps.org06:13
Hawkwindshriram: Ubuntu uses sudo by default06:13
maltaethironcall me maltaethiron, my bar will flash06:13
shriramHawkwind: how do i set a root pass?06:13
charimscrimsun: in the KDE control my sound hardware is set to ALSA and override device loaction to /dev/snd06:13
Hawkwindshriram: sudo passwd06:13
shriramah.. ok06:13
charimscrimsun; that is the onyl way i can get any sound06:13
flaccidi remember there is one06:13
Diuneimamahey peoples. where can i get pkg-config???????06:14
Jucatoyey! charims and crimsun are at it again! glad to see some things in life are consistent :-D06:14
charimshaha06:14
shriramHawkwind: can't seem to figure it out :/06:14
charimswell my sound still doesn't work... :(06:14
HawkwindDiuneimama: sudo apt-get install pkg-config  ?06:14
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maltaethironztem: watch how dis be done06:14
Hawkwindshriram: sudo passwd    Then enter a password06:15
Hawkwindshriram: That creates one06:15
DiuneimamaHawkwind let me try06:15
shriramHawkwind: okiw06:15
Hawkwind!info pkg-config06:15
ubotupkg-config: manage compile and link flags for libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20-1 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 180 kB06:15
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maltaethironHEY YO, anyone think that they can help out Ztem with installing limewire???06:16
Ztemi hate you.06:16
Hawkwind!limewire06:16
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.06:16
charimscrimsun: antoher sympton is that many of my media players will freeze when they try to play a file06:16
maltaethironhehe, see Ztem?06:16
HawkwindUse frostwire instead06:16
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maltaethiron!frostwire06:16
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:16
charimscrimsun: all my codecs are up to dat, and i get no system notifications06:16
veedub_tdihey anyone here using amarok 1.4.2?06:16
Ztemwhy is Frostwire better?06:16
Hawkwindveedub_tdi: Yes06:16
DiuneimamaHawkwind (could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (ll resoursce temporary unavaiable06:16
shriramHawkwind:06:16
HawkwindZtem: Read the info the bot told you06:16
shriramshriram@shriram-laptop:~$ sudo passwd06:16
shriramPassword:06:16
shriramSorry, try again.06:16
shriramsorry for spamming06:17
HawkwindDiuneimama: Do you have Adept open ?06:17
Diuneimamayup06:17
Hawkwindshriram: Then it looks like the password is already set06:17
shriramewww06:17
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HawkwindDiuneimama: Then close it, then do sudo apt-get install pkg-config06:17
veedub_tdiHawkwind, you got issues with the collection not scanning (scan error)06:17
Hawkwindveedub_tdi: Nope06:17
veedub_tdidang06:17
shriramHawkwind: i've tried every pass06:17
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Diuneimamacouldn;t find package06:17
DiuneimamaHawkwind couldn;t find package06:17
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HawkwindDiuneimama: Setup your repos appropriately then06:18
Hawkwind!repos > Diuneimama06:18
shriramHawkwind: could i do something with the installation disk?06:18
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shriramto set the root pass06:18
Hawkwindshriram: No idea06:18
shriramok06:19
unix_lappyshriram: you are looking to reset your root pass?06:19
Diuneimamaok thanks hawkwind06:19
crimsuncharims: don't override the device location, because what you have set is incorrect.06:20
charimscrimsun: kk06:21
charimscrimsun: still no system notifications..., and now aplay makes no sound06:22
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shriramHawkwind: unix_lappy.. it worked06:22
shriramhad to do "sudo passwd root"06:22
shriramthen enter userpassword06:22
shriramand then the new root password06:22
unix_lappyshriram: oh, so you meant to add a root user to the live cd.06:22
unix_lappy?06:22
shriramunix_lappy: i've installed kubuntu with the livecd06:23
charimscrimsun: should i be using snd-intel8x0 or snd-ac97-codec or snd-ac97-bus06:23
unix_lappyshriram: and what are you hoping to accomplish?06:25
maltaethiron!binary > Ztem06:25
crimsunyou should have all those06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about binary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
crimsuncharims: does aplay hang or appear to play?06:25
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charimscrimsun: not sure, it says its playing, but there is no sound, it shows Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono until i hit ctrl-c06:26
veedub_tdiargh, well, looks like it's back to amarok 1.4.1 ...06:27
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Jucatoveedub_tdi: why?06:28
veedub_tdicollection won't scan06:28
crimsuncharims: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*06:28
veedub_tdikeep getting errors06:28
Jucatoveedub_tdi: are you using Amarok 1.4.2 on PPC?06:28
veedub_tdino, x8606:28
veedub_tdiathlon 250006:28
Jucatohmm.. that's strange...06:28
charimsCrimsun:COMMAND     PID    USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME06:28
charimskmix       4989 charims   10u   CHR  116,0      8598 /dev/snd/controlC006:28
charimsamarokapp 12981 charims   20u   CHR  116,0      8598 /dev/snd/controlC006:28
charimsartsd     13532 charims  mem    CHR 116,16      8580 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p06:28
charimsartsd     13532 charims    8r   CHR 116,33      8417 /dev/snd/timer06:28
charimsartsd     13532 charims    9u   CHR 116,16      8580 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p06:28
charimsartsd     13535 charims  mem    CHR 116,16      8580 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p06:28
Jucatoyikes06:28
charimsartsd     13535 charims    9u   CHR 116,16      8580 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p06:28
Jucatocharims: ....06:28
charimsoops06:28
charims:(06:28
charimsb4 it did it without separating them06:29
crimsuncharims: right, artsd is hogging the sound device.06:29
charimscrimsun: so killall -9 artsd?06:29
crimsuncharims: so what you need to do is completely disable arts06:29
charimscrimsun: kk06:29
crimsuncharims: in the KDE Control [..]  you should be able to uncheck it06:29
shriramunix_lappy: nothing much actually. just set the root password :P06:29
charimscrimsun: in the KDE control?06:30
unix_lappyshriram: well that's simple enough :P06:30
shriramheh.. yeah06:30
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crimsuncharims: in the control panel or whatnot06:31
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shriramunix_lappy: any idea how i can check whether my graphics card is being used/detected..?06:31
unix_lappyshriram: well, if you're in X there's a pretty good bet.06:31
nellok06:31
HawkwindLOL06:31
shriramunix_lappy: ah.. ok06:32
charimscrimsun: i don't see an option for arts06:32
HawkwindIf it wasn't, you surely wouldn't be seeing anything graphical06:32
unix_lappyshriram: maybe you mean to ask if the proper drivers are loaded for your gpu?06:32
shriramunix_lappy: exactly06:32
shriram:)06:32
crimsuncharims: it's the sound server06:33
unix_lappyshriram: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "blah"06:33
shriramah.. ok06:33
unix_lappyreplace blah with whatever device you are running.06:33
Hawkwindshriram: Nvidia ?06:33
flaccidi have created now a dedicated partition for home dir. /home is currently on / what steps should i do to transfer to new partition?06:33
charimscrimsun: you mean the "Enable the sound system" box?06:33
shriramHawkwind: ati06:33
crimsuncharims: correct. Uncheck it.06:33
shriramx130006:33
shriramradeon06:34
charimscrimsun: done, and applied06:34
unix_lappyshriram: this is a laptop or desktop?06:34
shriramlaptop06:34
Hawkwindshriram: fglrxinfo | grep render might tell you.  Or something similar06:34
shriramah.. cool06:34
unix_lappyshriram: then i recommend you stay with the default drivers ubuntu provided you.06:34
HawkwindGrepping your xorg.conf file won't tell you much of anything honestly06:34
shriramlet me try thta06:34
crimsuncharims: what's the output from that lsof command now?06:34
charimscrimsun: i get sound from aplay again, let me test a media player06:34
HawkwindGrepping your xorg.conf file will only tell you how things are set, not if they are installed or working properly06:34
charimsCOMMAND     PID    USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME06:35
charimskmix       4989 charims   10u   CHR  116,0      8598 /dev/snd/controlC006:35
charimsamarokapp 12981 charims   20u   CHR  116,0      8598 /dev/snd/controlC006:35
charimsoops again06:35
unix_lappyshriram: the ati drivers tend to cause problems with acpi and certain 3rd party firmware/ hardware.06:35
HawkwindStop pasting to the channel06:35
Hawkwind!pastebin > charims06:35
shriramyeah :/06:35
unix_lappyyour mileage may very though.06:35
unix_lappyshriram: my recommendation is to06:35
charimspastebin is not greater than charmis!06:35
charimscharims*06:35
unix_lappybasically just stay with your current setup unless you require 3d accel.06:35
unix_lappyeg, for professional gaming or CAD :P06:36
Hawkwindunix_lappy: Ummmmmmm, that's pretty bad advice06:36
shrirami need to run Maya06:36
shrirammy xorg.conf has some ATI stuff06:36
unix_lappyshriram: that's expected.06:36
shriram       Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"06:36
shriram        Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"06:36
Hawkwindunix_lappy: The drivers can and will greatly increase performance and look of your fonts, regardless if you game or not06:36
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Jucato(Chanserv > charims) =06:36
Jucatolol.. sorry about that06:37
shriramokie06:37
unix_lappyyou need to run the command Hawkwind gave you to determine if ubuntu setup your 3d accel drivers properly.06:37
shriramHawkwind: where do i get the drivers?06:37
charimscrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2240506:37
charimsis that better?06:37
Hawkwind!ati06:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:37
shriramit didn't work06:37
unix_lappyHawkwind: i havent noticed much of a performance boost and i use X to spawn terms :P06:37
Hawkwindshriram: ^^^^^^^^^06:37
shriramubotu: cool! thanks :D06:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cool! thanks :D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:37
charimsand Chanserv is only a little bit greater than me06:37
crimsuncharims: yep. What engine is amarok configured to use?06:37
Hawkwindunix_lappy: You will always have an increase, regardless of your system06:37
charimscrimsun: alsa06:38
unix_lappyHawkwind: the only question is the degree to which.06:38
shrirambbs06:38
Hawkwindunix_lappy: Still....telling users not to install them is pretty bad advice.  One that shouldn't be given06:38
charimscrimsun; i tried to play a sound file in amarok, and it froze...06:38
unix_lappyHawkwind: he stated he was running on a laptop.06:38
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Hawkwindunix_lappy: And ?06:38
DiuneimamaHawkwind wat should i install after i have dl the header with adept manager?????06:39
unix_lappyI have him the possible scenarios in which those drivers would be beneficial in common situations.06:39
unix_lappylisting all of them is quite impossible.06:39
unix_lappyhowever, i did give him isntances in which the drivers maybe detrimental as well.06:39
HawkwindLaptop, desktop, doesn't matter.  You still get performance and appearance increase with the drivers, regardless if you game or not06:39
unix_lappyso i think my advice was balance.06:39
unix_lappybalanced*06:39
Hawkwindunix_lappy: I disagree06:39
HawkwindDiuneimama: I have no idea what you are trying to do06:39
unix_lappyHawkwind: ok...06:39
HawkwindDiuneimama: Nor wanting to do for that matter06:39
Diuneimamacan i get pkg-config there?06:40
unix_lappyI tend to just say, let the user experiment with the OS and find the balance they require as per their hardware and use.06:40
Hawkwindunix_lappy: If a system is going to have better looking appearance from the get go with drivers as compared to without, I think it's best to always install the drivers06:40
maltaethironHawkwind: you busy?06:40
unix_lappyThe best we can do is say, here's what happend with us. here is what you can expect to happen.06:40
maltaethironlol06:40
HawkwindDiuneimama: I thought you already installed pkg-config ?06:40
unix_lappylet the user determind what they require and what they need to do.06:40
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: If you have a question, just ask06:40
maltaethironok06:41
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: But ask the channel, not one individual person06:41
maltaethironWho in here can tell me how to install binary files06:41
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: As in deb files ?06:41
maltaethironidk, ask Ztem06:41
maltaethironhes scared to ask06:41
Ztemim a nub :(06:41
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: dpkg -i filename.deb   but best to use sudo apt-get install package  as that will solve deps06:41
Ztemhow do you save the damn .deb file?06:42
HawkwindZtem: Better learn to speak....only way you'll ever learn06:42
charimscrimsun: yeah, amarok doesn't like me i think, nor kaffeine, or anything else for that matter, not even the audio cd player...06:42
HawkwindZtem: What are you trying to install ?06:42
Ztemfrostwire06:42
Ztemi went to the place the bot sent06:42
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Ztemand i dont know how to save the .deb file on the desktop or w/e06:42
Ztem...because im a major nub06:43
HawkwindRight click, Save As06:43
Ztemyeah, did that06:43
HawkwindTell it where to save it06:43
crimsuncharims: it really sounds like your hardware is causing the kernel to have fits06:43
Ztemand it saves as the download.php and not the .deb file06:43
charimscrimsun: is that bad?06:43
HawkwindZtem: Then change the name from download.php to whatever you need it to be06:43
HawkwindZtem: For instance, package.deb06:43
shriramis there a community repository for kubuntu where i can find software like skype, gaim etc?06:43
HawkwindIt should then save it as a .deb file06:43
charimscrimsun: i know after a lot of wrok i got it to wrok in breezy badger, but it would only work on one program at a time06:43
maltaethironZtem: did you search synaptic for frostwire at all?06:43
Diuneimamahawkwind i haven installed it06:44
Ztemno, you didnt suggest that, Paul my friend06:44
Ztemlol06:44
maltaethiron-.-06:44
maltaethironlol06:44
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Hawkwind!info frostwire06:44
ubotuPackage frostwire does not exist in any distro I know06:44
maltaethironbut try the way that hawkwind suggested for the learning experience06:44
Hawkwindfrostwire is not packaged by Ubuntu06:44
shriramis there a community repository for kubuntu where i can find software like skype, realplayeretc?06:44
Hawkwind!info skype06:45
ubotuPackage skype does not exist in any distro I know06:45
Hawkwindshriram: Skype is not open source, therefore it's not packaged by the distro06:45
shriramHawkwind: ah.. ok06:45
Hawkwindshriram: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free06:45
maltaethironZtem: so do you know what youre doing now?06:45
Hawkwindshriram: Add that to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype06:45
Ztemnot really06:46
maltaethironok06:46
maltaethironso06:46
shriramHawkwind: will do that06:46
JucatoHawkwind: is that safe to use with Ubuntu also?06:46
maltaethironZtem: dpkg -i filename.deb06:46
HawkwindJucato: Yes06:46
Jucatokool06:46
HawkwindJucato: Mainly because it's in the 'stable' repo06:46
crimsuncharims: hmm. In the xine engine's configuration for amarok, can you configure a specific alsa output device?06:47
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charimscrimsun: hold on, amarok is taking forever to start06:48
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JucatoHawkwind: aaah06:48
flaccidi have a weird error when opening konqueror http://hardtrance.biz/temp/konq_error.png any ideas?06:49
charimscrimsun: no, but it gives me options for mono, stereo, 4 channel and 6 channel06:49
crimsuncharims: take a screenshot of the xine engine window, please06:49
Jucatoflaccid: what version of KDE are you using?06:49
flaccidJucato: 3.5.406:50
Jucatohm... that should have been fixed... hold on06:50
charimscrimsun: can i send u the file through irc?06:51
crimsunno.06:51
crimsunpastebin it.06:51
charimscrimsun: oh, kk06:51
flaccidJucato: ah ok known bug06:51
Jucatoflaccid: yeah... seems like it crept back in to KDE 3.5.4 like some other bugs06:52
Jucatoflaccid: iirc, it was fixed in KDE 3.5.306:52
charimscrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2240606:52
Jucatoflaccid: simple solution: don't use the System tab :-D06:52
flaccidJucato: ah ok have you got a URI or any other info?06:52
shriramHawkwind: what's the source type i need to use when adding that link to sources.list?06:53
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Jucatoflaccid: for that bug? nope. sorry06:53
Hawkwindshriram: Huh ?06:53
flaccidok np06:53
flaccidi should just wait for next update?06:53
charimscrimsun: which alsa snd driver should i be using?06:53
shriramin the /etc/apt/sources.list06:53
shriramwhat's the syntax for adding that link to skypr06:54
Hawkwindshriram: Just add the line exactly as I gave it to you06:54
Hawkwindshriram: Just add it at the bottom of the file06:54
shriramokie06:54
crimsuncharims: please use a different pastebin; that one's blocked here06:54
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Jucatocharims: you can try http://pastebin.com/06:56
shriramHawkwind: awesome! thanks :D06:56
Hawkwindhttp://pastebin.ulteo.us06:56
ZtemHawkwind: i saved the .deb file to the desktop but when i go into Konsole and go all sudo dpkg -i <name>.deb, it doesnt work06:56
Hawkwindpastebin.com is horribly slow06:56
Jucatoor that. ehehe06:56
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Jucatohm.. fast here... but I guess it depends...06:56
HawkwindZtem: Are you using the actual name of the .deb file ?06:57
Ztemyes06:57
HawkwindZtem: Also, doesn't work is pretty vague, you need to supply details06:57
Jucatouse the one Hawkwind provided. (free advertisement for Ulteo, too. :-D )06:57
charimscrimsun: they don't allow pics, i think i will put it up sumwhere else, hold on a sec...06:57
JucatoHawkwind: both the pastebins we provided don't allow pics?06:58
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Ztemfrostwire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb is what im using... and it says that cannot access archive : no such file or directory. Errors were encountered while processing (said filename)06:58
HawkwindJucato: Some do, some don't06:58
JucatoUbuntu's pastebin does... but it's slow, too....06:58
HawkwindZtem: Are you in the directory of the file where you saved it ?06:58
charimscrimsun: i'm putting it on photobucket06:59
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ZtemHawkwind: im not sure -.-07:00
HawkwindZtem: Where did you save the file to ?07:00
HawkwindZtem: Only you know that answer07:01
maltaethironhey, now that ive depackaged the deb file, what do i do next07:01
ZtemHawkwind: its on the desktop07:01
HawkwindZtem: cd Desktop07:01
HawkwindZtem: Then type:  ls   to see if the file is listed there07:01
shriramHawkwind: where is the list of modules loaded at startup stored in kubuntu?07:01
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Hawkwindmaltaethiron: What exactly are you trying to do ?07:01
maltaethironinstall frostwire -.-07:01
Hawkwindshriram: lsmod  will tell you everything that's loaded module wise07:01
ZtemHawkwind: it isnt there...07:01
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: dpkg -i filename.deb07:01
HawkwindZtem: Then you need to cd to the directory where you saved the file07:02
maltaethironHawkwind: yeah i did that, now what do i do07:02
shrirami want to disable this annoying sound my pc speaker makes07:02
shriramHawkwind: rmmod pcspkr07:02
shrirami did that07:02
HawkwindZtem: Or create a directory called downloads and save it there or something.  Make it simple07:02
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shriramhow do i apply the change? or how do i permanently disable that module?07:02
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Hawkwindshriram: You'd have to blacklist it07:03
shriramyeah.. where is the list of modules?07:03
Hawkwindshriram: Look in /etc/modprobe.d or /etc/modules07:03
shriramokie07:03
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maltaethironhawkwind: once ive done "dpkg -i filename.deb", is the file installed?07:04
maltaethironoh it is07:04
maltaethironw00t07:04
maltaethironlol07:04
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: Read your screen07:04
HawkwindIt tells you that07:04
shrirambbs07:05
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alexiconhrmm07:06
alexiconalsamixer isnt displaying a lot of stuff interms of audio devices. like my headphones and mic etc07:06
alexicontheres only master and pcm available07:06
alexiconwhere should i start looking to fix this07:06
crimsunalexicon: cat /proc/asound/cards07:07
charimscrimsun: www.bst150.com/snapshot1.png07:07
alexiconthanks07:07
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charimscrimsun: photobucket failed me, but this works07:08
romeobonsoir07:08
romeokubuntu est un superb distro07:09
crimsuncharims: hmm, that seems a lot more sparse than I recall.07:09
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Diuneimama!easysource07:09
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:09
romeoj adore07:09
charimscrimsun: sparse?07:09
romeobien mieux que suse07:10
romeobravo kabntu07:10
Hawkwind!fr07:10
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:10
Diuneimamahello can i ask? if i finish downloading from adepr manager is the file being installed?07:10
crimsuncharims: I thought there were more options07:10
alexiconhe did spanish first07:10
alexiconthink hes just pissing about07:11
charimscrimsun: not that i know of...07:11
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crimsuncharims: try changing the stereo one to plughw:007:11
HawkwindDiuneimama: If you told it to install, yes07:11
crimsuncharims: (instead of default)07:11
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DiuneimamaHawkwind Request to install mean tell it to install?07:11
HawkwindDiuneimama: Absolutely07:12
DiuneimamaHawkwind thanks07:12
charimscrimsun: hmm, idk07:12
crimsuncharims: just change it, click Apply, etc.07:12
charimscrimsun: that i can do07:13
charimscrimsun: for oss it gives me an option for device07:13
charimscrimsun: it says either /dev/dsp or /dev/sound/dsp07:14
charimscrimsun; but it still freaks out when i try to play an ogg file07:14
charimscrimsun: tried to change to esd, and it crashed again07:16
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crimsuncharims: don't use alsa, but for stereo use plughw:007:16
crimsuncharims: sorry. That's mean to be read as: Don't. Use alsa ...07:16
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charimscrimsun: when i change from alsa, it doesn't give me the stereo optin, it changes07:17
alexiconhrm it has my soundcard HDA-Intel but i dont know why i cant hear through the headphones07:17
charimscrimsun: ahhh, kk07:17
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alexiconwas something not detected right?07:17
crimsunalexicon: I'm waiting for output from the command I gave you07:17
alexicon0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xde400000 irq 8207:17
crimsunalexicon: head -1 /proc/asound/card0/codec*07:18
ryedunnjust got up and running on kubuntu, updated my sources  using netselect-apt (very cool) but I cant get firefox?.. anyone know why?07:18
charimscrimsun: started playing, then froze agian like usual, but when i change to file for output plugin, it doesn't freeze :) but no sound07:18
alexicon==> /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 <==07:18
alexiconCodec: SigmaTel STAC766107:18
crimsun!info firefox07:18
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 (dapper), package size 7730 kB, installed size 22912 kB07:18
alexicon==> /proc/asound/card0/codec#1 <==07:18
alexiconCodec: Generic 14f1 ID 2bfa07:18
ryedunnyeah thats what Im trying07:19
crimsuncharims: you've got some sort of hardware glitch07:19
crimsuncharims: what did you have to do for 5.10?07:19
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charimscrimsun: idk, it was a long time ago, but i used alsa, i know that07:19
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ryedunnPackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:19
ryedunnThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:19
ryedunnis only available from another sourc07:19
ryedunnoops07:19
crimsunryedunn: firefox is in the main component. If you can't apt-get it, then your sources.list is misconfigured.07:19
charimscrimsun: someone guided me through it, haha, for all know, it could have been you07:19
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crimsunalexicon: that's fine. What's the output from ``amixer''? Don't flood this channel.07:20
charimscrimsun: yeah, but it sucked, sound could only come from one program at a time07:20
ryedunncrimsun:  hmm I'll take a look, thank you.07:20
alexicon!pastebin > alexicon07:20
charimswhat is with everyone thinking pastebin is better than everyone else? nvm07:21
alexiconhmmm07:21
alexiconheh07:21
alexiconi just get told to use it most the time07:21
alexiconhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2240707:21
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alexiconamixer is just displaying those two channels07:22
alexiconim on a laptop and its got a headphone and mic port07:22
charimsno, i meant everyone keeps saying pastebin is > "Name", i know, its jsut for ubotu07:22
alexiconbut i dont see any controls for them07:22
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alexiconheh oh ok07:22
alexiconi never can remember where it is, guess i should bookmark it07:22
crimsunalexicon: is sound audible at all?07:23
alexiconthrough headphones not at all07:23
charimscrimsun: yeah, this sucks, looks like i have to go back to my old soundblaster sucks eggs07:23
alexiconbut it is through speakers on the laptop07:23
alexiconhavent tried to see if suse detected the headphones yet07:23
charimscrimsun: i'm not sure i'm even using the right snd- driver07:24
crimsuncharims: did you try loading snd-intel8x0 with buggy_irq=1 buggy_semaphore=1  ?07:24
charimscrimsun: before you had me do it, but not since i went back to the uncompiled driver07:24
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crimsunalexicon: so it's just not routing correctly through07:24
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alexiconcrimsun: it doesnt say a headphone/mic port exist07:24
crimsuncharims: ok, unload snd-intel8x0 and reload it with those parameters07:24
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crimsunalexicon: which specific laptop is this?07:25
crimsunalexicon: and which kernel are you running?07:25
alexiconsony sz91 2.6.15-26-38607:25
crimsunlspci -nv, please07:25
crimsun(pastebin)07:25
charimscrimsun: error WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error inserting snd_intel8x0 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)07:26
crimsuncharims: dmesg|tail -307:26
alexiconcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2240807:26
charimscrimsun :[17195510.996000]  snd_intel8x0: disagrees about version of symbol snd_pcm_period_elapsed   [17195510.996000]  snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_period_elapsed    [17195511.000000]  snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_ac97_tune_hardware07:27
alexiconack it got truncated07:28
alexiconi gotta go out now anyway07:28
alexiconsorry07:28
alexiconneed to check my other distro and see if sound works through headphones07:28
shriramcan one of you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list for me please (with the universe and miltiverse repositories enabled)07:28
crimsunalexicon: that issue should be resolved in the next kernel.07:28
alexiconi just dont know what i could edit to fix it07:28
flaccidi'm a bit confused on backing up. i want to back up my /home/flaccid profile only. what should i use?07:28
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alexiconheh ok crimsun07:28
shrirammultiverse*07:28
crimsunalexicon: I posted a fix for it last week sometime.07:28
alexiconwicked07:28
alexiconcheers man i look forward to it07:29
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crimsuncharims: hmm. cat /proc/asound/version07:29
alexiconshriram: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse07:29
alexiconshriram: deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse07:30
alexiconrighto im off07:30
alexiconthanks everyone07:30
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Hawkwindflaccid: I just use tar and put the backup somewhere else other than ~/ and/or burn it to CD/DVD07:30
charimscrimsun:Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC).07:30
flaccidHawkwind: i need to not be logged in hey?07:30
charimscrimsun: wait, thats supposed to be 13! why is it 10?07:30
Hawkwindflaccid: Sure you can be07:30
flaccidhas trouble writing some stuff i belive07:31
charimscrimsun: i jsut installed it!07:31
crimsuncharims: because you didn't install 13rc1 correctly ;)07:31
Hawkwindflaccid: I do daily backups of my entire system using tar and my system is always running and always in X07:31
charimscrimsun: really?07:31
charimscrimsun: or was i to restart?07:31
crimsuncharims: I presumed you either unloaded all the alsa modules then reloaded snd-intel8x0, or you rebooted.07:31
charimscrimsun: uhh, well, i better reboot then...07:32
charimscrimsun: i did neither07:32
crimsunyou don't _have_ to reboot, but it's probably easier07:32
charimscrimsun: i will reboot, brb07:32
tjhey anybody here watch big brother????07:33
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Hawkwindtj: Probably the wrong channel to ask that.  Try #Kubuntu-OffTopic07:33
tjok thanks sorry07:33
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StrudelNinjahey, I'm trying to get my winkey to open the k menu. A friend had me put http://pastebin.ca/159536 in winkey.sh and put it in /home/josh/.kde/Autostart/ but it's not working07:36
StrudelNinjait has all the permissions07:36
charimscrimsun: I'm back, but i'm not sure which alsa driver is currently loaded, will test with aadebug07:36
StrudelNinjathe same for another .sh I have in the same dir07:36
crimsuncharims: cat /proc/asound/modules07:36
charimscrimsun:0 snd_intel8x007:37
crimsunand cat /proc/asound/version?07:37
charimscrimsun:Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.13rc1. Compiled on Sep  2 2006 for kernel 2.6.15-26-386.07:38
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charimscrimsun: amarok still freezes, and no sound from it07:40
crimsunyeah, that's sounding more and more like a hardware issue07:40
StrudelNinjaamarok problem? I hear just uninstalling and reinstalling works...07:40
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crimsuncharims: did you try the buggy irq/semaphore workarounds?07:41
charimscrimsun: not, how do i do that07:41
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charimscrimsun: do i modprobe -r snd-intel8x0 and the modprobe snd-intel8x0 buggirg....07:41
crimsuncharims: yes07:42
charimscrimsun: okay, what were the specific workarounds... i don't know the exact names07:42
crimsunbuggy_irq=1 buggy_semaphore=107:42
charimscrimsun: kk thanks07:43
maltaethironwhat do i do with a .bin file?07:43
charimscrimsun: FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use.07:43
crimsuncharims: kill `lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*'07:44
charimscrimsun: figured it out, amarok was still open07:44
maltaethironcan anyone tell me what to do with a bin file?07:44
Hawkwindsh filename.bin07:44
charimscrimsun: ok, now what, should i restart?07:44
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: Possible you might have to do:  chmod +x filename.sh  and then sh filename.bin07:45
crimsuncharims: did you unload snd-intel8x0 and reload it with those parameters?07:45
charimscrimsun: yes07:45
crimsuncharims: now try amarok/aplay/whatever alsa apps07:45
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charimscrimsun: amarok xine doenst like it, it siad that it could not load the dirver07:46
ZtemHawkwind: i cant get java5 to install, i typed sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin into Konsole and it went thro all the crap, but when i went to open Frostwire it told me i needed 1.4 or higher07:46
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maltaethironZtem: look what he just told me07:46
DiuneimamaQuestion : if i download and installed package or file.. where usually it locates???????07:46
flaccidZtem: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre ?07:46
maltaethironZtem: just do sh filename.bin07:47
charimscrimsun: aplay returned errors :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2240907:47
sanshi all, i just replaced my sources.list from those of dapper to those of edgy and dist-upgraded, I'm about to restart soon, what should I do if i have a problem it won't let me back in?07:47
sanswait, that might've been a too general question, i guess the answer would be it depends, huh?07:48
Hawkwindsans: Why are you upgrading to a beta ?07:48
sansi don't know07:48
charimscrimsun: cat /proc/asound/modules returns nothing07:48
lmosherHow do I make it so my new hard disk partitions shows up on my desktop?07:48
sansi read about it today on slashdot and now regretting it, i had a perfectly stable desktop07:48
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Hawkwindsans: Probably best you stick with a stable version, which is Dapper until Edgy gets released07:48
sansi did already upgrade, how can i downgrade? do I just put my sources.list back to dapper and dist-upgrade?07:49
lmosheredgy is out next month anyway, right?07:49
charimscrimsun: attempted reloading snd-intel8x0 with wrokarounds, still nothing in cat /proc/asound/modules07:49
Hawkwindlmosher: Yes, but tons of things will change before then07:49
Hawkwindsans: I don't know that you can, or how to if you can07:49
Linux_Galoresans: duh its the "unstable" release only for developers right now07:49
lmosherOf course things will change, I was just wondering about the time frame :)07:49
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Hawkwindsans: Why you upgraded is beyond me.   Unless you're a beta tester it's best to stick with stable at all times07:49
sanswell curiosity killed the cat, so they say07:50
Hawkwindsans: Ever heard of vmware ?07:50
Hawkwindsans: Or a seperate install ?07:50
Lunar_Ravenedgy is out next month?07:50
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Lunar_Raveni havent seen many new features yet07:50
Lunar_Raven=\07:50
Linux_Galoresans: you could have updated 6.06 and got most of the stuff in edgy anyway07:50
HawkwindLunar_Raven: Knot2 was released yesterday07:50
Lunar_Ravenoh hmm07:50
Lunar_Raveni only tried 107:51
Lunar_Ravenheh07:51
charimscrimsun: nvidia has this info, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.11.html07:51
Linux_Galoreyeah I have knot 2 on my laptop, works but the newbie stuff is broken07:51
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HawkwindLinux_Galore: I'm running it in vmware.  It seems really nice, but like you said, basic n00b stuff is broken/disabled07:52
Ztemokay, JRE is all updated, but Frostwire doesnt recognize this...07:52
HawkwindWelcome to the world of p2p apps07:52
HawkwindThey are poorly coded and mostly crap.07:53
Ztem:-07:53
Ztem...help?07:53
Ztemlol07:53
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HawkwindNext to impossible to troubleshoot and get working07:53
HawkwindZtem: Yeah...don't use them07:53
crimsuncharims: lsmod |grep ^snd07:53
ZtemHawkwind: you said to use Frostwire over Limewire?07:53
HawkwindZtem: Yes, but they are both horrible IMO.  I don't use any p2p app07:53
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HawkwindPrime example is you working on it for 2+ hours with no luck.  It's a waste IMO07:54
ZtemHawkwind: what would you suggest? and i feel like crap now, i just spent all that time...07:54
HawkwindZtem: Purchase from a store07:54
ZtemEEEEEEEEEEE07:54
HawkwindZtem: What are you wanting to download ?07:54
charimscrimsun: posting on pastebin07:54
ZtemHawkwind: nothing in particular. just fooling around.07:55
HawkwindZtem: Then stay away from p2p apps07:55
ZtemHawkwind: awww, i feel defeated.07:55
HawkwindIf you want music files: irc.undernet.org #Mp3_Collections  If you want movies, torrents07:55
charimscrimsun: http://pastebin.com/78252607:55
maltaethironZtem: yeah, you should prolly just stick to torrenting...also seeing as ktorrent works like a charm07:56
HawkwindYou could have done some major coding in the 2 hours you wasted with a crappy p2p app07:56
ZtemHawkwind: no i couldnt have, ive been using Linux for like 2 days.07:57
HawkwindIt was merely an example :P07:57
Ztem:)07:57
charims :-P07:57
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JloneHello07:58
JloneCan someone help me really quick07:58
JloneI mounted an NTFS drive with a bunch of music on it07:58
JloneBut I cant get any of the mp3's to play... what gives?07:59
Jlone...08:00
Jlone:(08:00
charimscrimsun: hey, i have to go, its 11:00 and i have to go to bed08:00
charimscrimsun: anything you have to say about my output?08:00
crimsuncharims: the output itself looks fine. What's the error?08:01
charimscrimsun: it jsut said there are no drivers to load, i checked the modules, there is nothing there08:01
charimscrimsun: under cat /proc/asound/modules08:01
charimscrimsun: there is no output from that08:02
Jloneis anyone available to help me with this problem?08:02
charimsJlone, please search the forums, i don't know the asnwer, but i do know there is a pposting on it there. go to ubuntuforums.org08:03
crimsuncharims: does it contain "no soundcards"?08:03
charimscrimsun: something like that, but i g2g, talk to later08:03
charimscrimsun: goodnight08:04
crimsuncharims: I'm away for 2 days08:04
Jloneok ill check there08:04
charimscrimsun: really, awww, kk08:04
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charimscrimsun: ok, is there anythng else we can do qucikly before i go?08:04
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crimsuncharims: sure, try using just one of the workarounds instead of both08:06
charimscrimsun: ok, ill try irq first08:06
charimscrimsun: froze with that08:08
crimsunand buggy_semaphore=1?08:08
DiuneimamaQuestion : if i download and installed package or file.. where usually it locates???????08:08
charimscrimsun: it has the problem with the drivers again, it says, xine could not initialize dsound drivers08:08
charimscrimsun: hey, i g2g now08:09
Diuneimamay when its loading the bar it will say package damge or something like that08:09
charimscrimsun: goodnight08:09
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Jloneso far other users are having the same problem as me08:10
Jloneit worked fine for me with suse 10.108:10
Jlonebut not kubuntu08:10
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crimsunJlone: mount |grep ntfs08:11
Jloneok08:12
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Jlonethat didnt work08:13
JloneI can access the files08:13
JloneThat's not the problem08:13
crimsungood, that's what the first step in troubleshooting is08:13
crimsunnext, dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii |awk '{print $3}'08:14
Jloneok08:14
Jlonenot sure what that did08:15
DiuneimamaQuestion : if i download and installed package or file.. where usually it locates???????08:15
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abattoirDiuneimama: /var/cache/apt/archives08:16
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crimsunJlone: you were supposed to tell us the output from that command08:16
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Jloneit didnt output anything to konsole08:17
Jlonethats why i said i dont know what that did lol08:18
abattoirDiuneimama: that is ofcourse, if you downloaded/installed w/ apt-get/adept08:18
Diuneimamathanks abattoir08:19
Diuneimamaabattoir if u wanted to install them wat should i do?08:20
Jlonemaybe i should just go back to suse08:20
crimsunJlone: so install libxine-extracodecs08:21
abattoirDiuneimama: 'sudo dpkg -i <packagename>'08:21
crimsunJlone: you need that package so amarok can play mp3s08:21
flaccidhmm what is ~/.rnd?08:21
Diuneimamaok abbattoir08:21
crimsun!info libxine-extracodecs08:21
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB08:21
Diuneimamathnks08:21
abattoirDiuneimama: or 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package' if you arent in the dir. where the file is08:21
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Jlonehmmm08:22
crimsunlibxine-extracodecs is in multiverse and requires both universe and multiverse to be enabled.08:23
JloneThats not available to me in adept08:23
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abattoirJlone: you must enable the multiverse repostitory08:24
abattoir!repos08:24
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:24
abattoirJlone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:25
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JloneThat link is broken08:27
Jloneor their help pages are down08:27
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Jlonegrrrr!08:29
JloneAll im trying to do is listen to some mp3's while i read up on this stuff08:30
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XVampireXJlone: Hey, what are you trying to do?08:32
paul___Jlone: type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list into the konsole and make sure the following line is in there: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse08:32
XVampireX!multimedia08:32
ubotuFor multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications08:32
JloneThere's a bunch of shit in there lol08:36
Jloneoh wait08:37
Jlonei see what you mean08:37
Jlonei have to uncomment some stuff08:37
Jloneok08:37
Jlonedone08:37
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Jloneok it seems there is an update for amarok08:39
Jlonemaybe that will fix the problem08:39
Jlonehope so*!08:39
Jloneok now amarok is asking me if i want to "Enable restriced software from multiverse?"08:42
JloneDo I want to do that?08:42
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JloneOMG it worked. ThANK YOU!08:43
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sanshi all08:47
sansi'm on edgy08:47
sansi survived08:47
sanshaha08:47
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sanswait, where's my k-pilot!?!08:48
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madhatter_hey everyone09:07
madhatter_whats up?09:07
madhatter_looks like rt 2500 drivers are installed on the machine after a fresh install, but how do i configure a connection??09:08
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madhatter_wireless assistant freezes everytime i try to activate09:08
madhatter_ra009:09
madhatter_hello??09:09
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wordis there a way to erm upgrade kubuntu from 32 bit to 64 bit?09:14
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dan__hey i need help09:15
madhatter_i thought so09:15
madhatter_but u might need to get a new distro09:16
dan__whos good with linux09:16
madhatter_not me =( but go ahead and ask09:16
madhatter_i doubt i can help09:16
dan__i just installed it but it wont let me download and run stuff like windows would09:16
madhatter_word: check http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27515.html09:17
worddan__: you can't run .exes in linux without some doing and even then it doesn't always work09:17
dan__i want to install limewire and nero09:17
StrudelNinjathere's linuxy options out there, but I don't think there's a version of either for linux09:18
madhatter_dan: me too, but i dont know how either lol09:19
madhatter_dan: your best bet is to look for wiki howtos or walkthroughs or whatever and start to learn that way09:20
dan__can you install itunes on kubuntu09:21
madhatter_can anyone tell me why wireless assistant freezes every time i try to activate my card??09:21
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worddan__: no but you'll find that Amarok is a much better alternative09:28
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dan__so i cant use my ipod with linux09:29
wordk3b is going to be your cd burner and you'll have to find a dvd burner program. Limewire i think..is java so you'll probably be able to get that running if you install the java runtime (howto is on the wiki) but i hear frostwire is better09:29
worddan__: nope didn't say that if it didn't it wouldn't be 'much better'09:29
worddan__: although you won't be able to use the music store and get your existing songs from it without itunes...there are some efforts being made by the people at wine to get it running on linux.09:30
dan__so can i upload music onto my ipod from linux09:32
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worddan__: it's called transfering but yes09:37
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Drako60http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22415  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22414  i need some help figuring out what those two segfaults are and a fix, first is XMMS second is VLC09:40
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abattoirword: k3b can handle dvds... cant it?09:42
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wordabattoir: probably..but i don't think it does with as many options as nero09:46
AZ_ASwell, finally trying out amarok, and I love it! :D09:47
wordummm..why would network access to a secondary drive sata with an xfs file system cause it to die?09:47
AZ_ASI've never seen such a nicely integrated lyrics script09:47
dan__how do i install java runtime09:48
abattoirword: really? i wonder what options those are....09:48
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wordabattoir: well not nescesarily for burning..but you can create dvds dvd menus and a whole bunch of other things with nero09:48
abattoir!info sun-java5-jre09:49
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB09:49
abattoirdan__: ^^^ its in multiverse you can do a 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre' if you have it enabled...09:49
abattoirdan__: else you could download the self extracting .bin from java.com and extract it yourself09:49
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dan__how do i extract it09:52
abattoirdan__: have you downloaded the file? where have you saved it?09:52
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dan__its saved to the home folder09:53
plugsis it very hard to add a second hard drive?09:53
abattoirdan__: ok, open a terminal(konsole)09:53
abattoirdan__: and you have the .bin file.. right?09:54
abattoirplugs: what exactly do you mean?09:55
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dan__no it just sais dan@dan:~$09:55
abattoirdan__: ok, but the file that you downloaded ends with .bin... correct?09:55
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dan__yes09:56
abattoirdan__: ok, now type into konsole the following commands..(which are within the quotes)09:56
abattoirdan__: 'sudo mkdir /usr/java'09:56
abattoirdan__: you'll be prompted for you password now.... please enter it09:57
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plugsabattoir i want to add a second hard drive internally, and run windows on that and kubuntu on my current one, instead of partitioning my current drive. is this possible?09:58
Tm_Thi abattoir09:58
abattoirplugs: yes, its possible09:58
abattoirhello Tm_T :)09:58
abattoirplugs: get a new hard drive, put it in, install windows, and then reinstall the boot loader09:59
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plugsI can reinstall and it will sort itself out? good, i was thinking i'd have to configure it10:00
abattoirplugs: aah, yes, by reinstall, i meant reconfiguring it too :P10:00
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plugswell ya a little of each =] 10:00
dan__abattoir: it sais command not found10:00
abattoirdan__: for what? make sure you didnt include the quotes( '  ')10:01
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Diuneimama_!dkpg10:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dkpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:07
abattoir!dpkg10:07
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.10:07
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NovaHey guys10:11
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dan__abattoir this is what its saying10:12
dan__dan@dan:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/java10:12
dan__mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/java': File exists10:12
dan__dan@dan:~$10:12
abattoirdan__: ok, you created it the last time you tried it i gues...10:13
Diuneimama_excuse me people wat is the difference between libwine and libwine-hq10:13
dan__so what do i do10:13
dan__now10:13
Novai have a small problem10:14
abattoirdan__: 'sudo cp ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin'10:14
dan__abattoir:10:15
dan__dan@dan:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/java10:15
dan__mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/java': File exists10:15
dan__dan@dan:~$ sudo cp ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin10:15
dan__cp: cannot stat `/home/dan/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory10:15
NovaI set up my wireless dongle, but i does'nt altomatically connect when i switch on, does anyknow how to fix this10:15
Nova?10:15
abattoirdan__: is the file you downloaded in /home/dan? is the name the same?10:15
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dan__abbattoir: the file name is: j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin10:17
abattoirdan__: that is the SDK, do you want the software devel. kit or the runtime environment?10:18
abattoirdan__: my guess is the latter10:19
abattoirdan__: http://jdl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=1033610:19
abattoirdan__: or rather go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp10:19
abattoirand select Linux(self-extracting file).... not Linux RPM10:20
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kristinahi @ all10:20
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dan__abattoir: it opend with a shell script10:21
kristinahow to mount ntfs hdd 4 ever? how i have to add or change something in the fstab file10:22
kristina?10:22
abattoirdan__: you clicked on the second link and downloaded the .bin file?10:22
dan__yes the self extraction one10:22
abattoirok, and you saved it to your home folder?10:22
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abattoirdan__: then do 'sudo cp ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin'10:23
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dan__first it opend in ark then i clicked it and it opened the shell script10:23
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livingdaylighthi10:23
NovaI set up my wireless dongle, but i does'nt altomatically connect when i switch on, does anyknow how to fix this10:24
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livingdaylightfor kubuntu automatix applies equally of course?10:24
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dan__okay after the 'sudo cp ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin' what do i do10:24
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abattoirdan__: 'cd /usr/java' and 'sudo sh ./jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin10:25
abattoirdan__: you'd get a license agreement dialog.... read through it and type 'yes' at the end10:25
TheGateKeeper_anyone remember the name of the empty file you need to add to stop (k)ubuntu doing it's file system check on boot up?10:25
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abattoirTheGateKeeper_: well, you can modify /etc/fstab...10:25
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dan__abattoir it said:10:26
dan__dan@dan:~$ sudo cp ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin10:26
dan__Password:10:26
dan__dan@dan:~$ cd /usr/java' and 'sudo sh ./jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin10:26
dan__bash: cd: /usr/java and sudo: No such file or directory10:26
dan__dan@dan:~$10:26
plugsi always think of sudowoodo10:26
abattoirdan__: first do 'cd /usr/java'10:26
abattoirdan__: and then do the 'sudo sh...' command10:26
TheGateKeeper_abattoir: got a failing memory I think all you need to do is create an empty file called .fastboot or .faststart or something like that10:27
livingdaylightHello?10:27
abattoirTheGateKeeper_: oh, ok, then, i dont know that10:27
abattoirlivingdaylight: yes..?10:27
livingdaylightits a rather simple question; does one just keep repeating it?10:27
dan__ok now what10:27
livingdaylightabattoir: ah...thx10:28
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abattoirlivingdaylight: pls. be patient if someone knows the answer, they'd answer it10:28
livingdaylightabattoir: automatix, does it apply equally to kubuntu?10:28
abattoirwhat was your question?10:28
abattoirlivingdaylight: 'apply'?10:28
livingdaylightabattoir: work for10:28
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abattoirlivingdaylight: kubuntu is essentially ubuntu-gnome+kde, so anything which is not gnome dependent should work10:28
TheGateKeeper_abattoir: what would you do to fstab?10:28
livingdaylightabattoir: ok, just double checking10:29
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PaulioCI set up my wireless dongle, but i does'nt altomatically connect when i switch on, does anyknow how to fix this10:29
dan__abattoir: im not sure what to do after that it came up with the license agreement and thank you10:29
livingdaylightabattoir: how did you install all the codecs etc if not use easyubuntu or automatix script?10:29
abattoirTheGateKeeper_: in the line which has the entry for the fs, change the last option from 1(if it is the root fs) or 2 to 0... that disables fs checking10:29
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abattoirdan__: yes, if you got through the license agreement part and saw 'Done', then everything is done :)10:30
abattoirdan__: you can remove the .bin file if you dont want it10:30
abattoirdan__: 'sudo rm /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin'10:30
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abattoirdan__:  and 'rm ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin10:31
abattoirdan__:  and 'rm ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin'10:31
dan__abattoir: do i have to do that for everything i install and how do you figure that out10:31
abattoirlivingdaylight: i manually downloaded them and extracted them.10:31
livingdaylightabattoir: each one, one by one?10:32
TheGateKeeper_abattoir: ok thanx, my pc gave me a scare the other day wanted to do a reboot after doing a 30 boot file system check10:32
livingdaylightabattoir: do you know about automatix and easyubuntu?10:32
abattoirdan__: if you have universe and multiverse enabled, installing stuff is really easy(easier than in windows in my opinion)10:32
livingdaylightabattoir: makes life easier10:32
abattoir!universe > dan__10:32
abattoirlivingdaylight: yes, i know about them, but prefer doing it myself, thank you :)10:33
abattoirdan__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu should help you10:33
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abattoirdan__: once you have that setup, then you can install *almost* all the packages you'd need w/ one command :), or through Adept, if you prefer GUI.10:34
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bioticprowhat is a good program to join video clips?10:38
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MetaMorfoziSjoin?10:39
MetaMorfoziSavidemux?10:39
MetaMorfoziS(aptget)10:39
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bioticproMetaMorfoziS: is that cli program or does it have a gui? (or konq right click)10:40
MetaMorfoziSit's a gtk app10:41
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Lunar_Ravenhey guys..is there a way I can restore the default look of kubuntu (kde)?10:45
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octanmorning all10:46
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sophtpawwhere is firefox?10:46
obf213can u send files to anyone not using kopete on kopete10:46
octanobf213, yes10:46
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obf213octan how10:46
octanim irretated on my kde10:46
octaneverytime i login to kde i get this wizard up10:47
sophtpawadept tells me i have  firefox already installed, but i don't see it in Applications/Internet10:47
octani dosent help if i compleate it10:47
obf213sophtpaw just log out and lgo back it10:47
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obf213octan how do i do it10:47
octansomekool, try type it on cli10:47
sophtpawout of kubuntu or adapt?10:47
abattoiroctan: kpersonalizer?10:47
Lunar_Ravensophtpaw...try going to your menu, run...and type firefox, then hit enter.10:48
Lunar_Ravenor from a console, of course10:48
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octanobf213 your talking about the msn stuff right10:48
sophtpawLunar_Raven: why would it not be in my menu?10:48
Lunar_RavenUh, I'm not sure on that one10:48
Lunar_Ravenit should be10:48
abattoirsophtpaw: there is a 'bug' w/ adept where it doesnt update the menu on installation currently10:48
paul___I set up my wireless dongle, but i does'nt altomatically connect when i switch on, does anyknow how to fix this? Thanks10:49
fdovingis that adept? isn't it kbuildsycoca?10:49
obf213on kopete10:49
obf213i have aim but i can send files to any of friends with aim10:49
Lunar_Ravenwould anyone know how I could restore default settings to my kubuntu desktop?10:49
sophtpawDoes Firefox come with Kubuntu by default?10:49
Lunar_Ravensopht, no10:49
Lunar_Ravenit doesnt10:49
sophtpawtried running it from shell and run command  - didn't work10:49
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sophtpawthen Adept lied about it being installed10:50
Lunar_Ravenfrom shell, try installing it10:50
abattoirfdoving: well... i dont know... it is added when i use apt-get10:50
Lunar_Ravensudo apt-get install firefox10:50
kutan!audacity10:50
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB10:50
Lunar_Ravensee if that works10:50
Diuneimamahi all, i had used apt-get10:50
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Diuneimamabut y its say cannot open lock file10:50
Lunar_Ravendo you have adept open diune?10:51
Lunar_Ravenor any other package manger10:51
octanobf213,  i dont know what you mean,, i just clickl on my frien in the contact list then on the chat menu at top i have a send file function10:51
fdovingabattoir: hmm.. strange.10:51
abattoir!adept-crash-fix10:51
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'10:51
Lunar_Ravensomething is using your package management system...so its 'locked'10:51
obf213i dont i guess kopete doesnt support it w/ aim.10:51
octanabattoir,  kpersonalizer?10:51
peter____hello, how can i restore the original login screen after installing kde, and xfce?10:52
abattoiroctan: the wizard which you get at startup10:52
Lunar_Ravenobf, if you want to send via aim.....install gaim10:52
octanyes.. it starts every friking time10:52
octan:P10:52
Lunar_Ravenfile transfers work on that10:52
abattoiroctan: try uninstalling it10:52
Jack12hi10:52
Lunar_Ravencurrently i don't think kopete supports aim file transfers10:52
octanabattoir, right10:52
k31thAnyone have jack setup ?10:52
kutanHey guys, what URL should I add to the repositories to locate the package for audacity?10:52
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Jack12how can i install dial on demand for my kubuntu?10:52
octan--force?10:53
fdoving!universe10:53
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:53
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Lunar_Raven!kubuntu-settings10:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-settings - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
abattoirkutan: ^^^10:53
fdovingkutan: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories10:53
Lunar_Ravenehh10:53
Lunar_Raven!kde10:53
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE10:53
octananyone know c++ here?10:53
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Jack12fdoving: was this a reply to my question?10:54
abattoiroctan: why do you ask?10:54
fdovingJack12: no, i'm sorry.10:54
fdovingJack12: how did you setup your current connection?10:54
Jack12via commandline10:55
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hi :)10:55
fdovingJack12: what command do you use to dial?10:55
Jack12i just forgot the command right now10:55
Jack12sry10:55
octanabattoir coz im trying to make a app that has cli options, i been googling and i see something called getopt. there is also something called GetOpt. but im intressted in getopt but i cant find any doc| examples on it10:55
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fdovingJack12: pppconfig ? and pon /poff ?10:55
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MilhousePunkRockHey abattoir and everyone else...10:56
fdovinghi milhousepunkrock.10:56
Jack12pppconfig ..i dont need usually pon and poff it automatically starts with the internet10:56
Jack12fdoving:10:56
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abattoiroctan: http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Example-of-Getopt.html#Example-of-Getopt ??10:57
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abattoiroctan: http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Getopt.html is the parent10:57
fdovingJack12: you could take a look at http://www.davidpashley.com/articles/wvdial-pppd-dod.html10:57
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octanabattoir that was GetOPt10:58
octanim talking about getopt10:58
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abattoiroctan: heh, i dont know which is which... the same page refers to the function as getopt and Getopt10:59
Jack12fdoving: is ppoeconf possible? does it make a difference?10:59
fdovingJack12: you can use pppconfig too.10:59
fdovingif you want to.10:59
octanabattoir, getopt != GetOpt :)11:00
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Jack12thnak you fdoving11:01
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NineTeen67CometHello all .. I built a Kubuntu box for some people, and they have some questions. I tried to boot into the livecd/install cd and the only options I've got are Text install repair install etc etc .. I use Ubuntu (came from Gentoo originally) so I'm not totally comfy in KDE's desktop. Ideas?11:02
octanabattoir, i found what i was looking for :) #c++ is helpfull :D http://www.hmug.org/man/3/getopt.php11:02
abattoiroctan: ah, ok :)11:03
LynoureNineTeen67Comet: What are the questions?11:03
fdovingyour welcome jack12.11:03
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LynoureNineTeen67Comet: What are you trying to do?11:04
NineTeen67CometLynoure: they just need to change to DHCP is all .. I sent them a link, and an explanation via e-mail .. it would just be better if I could walk with them over the phone ..11:04
jott_octan: you could also do a "man 3 getopt" when you have installed manpages-dev11:05
octanjott_ right :) thxz for the tip11:05
NineTeen67CometThey aren't literate enough to jump to an idea if I get them close, they are very literal. They need to know K-manu>System Settings>Network Settings Admin Password, network card, config change, dhcp .. etc etc .. I tried to get them in the ball park and they freaked ..11:06
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jott_octan: (the 3 refers to the library calls section)11:07
octanoh. that i didnt know ;)11:07
LynoureNineTeen67Comet: you do not need to boot with the livecd for that, just boot normally open a terminal and from that it's pretty much like prolly in gentoo11:07
abattoirNineTeen67Comet: sorry if i've missed something, but what has fixing that got to do w/ the install/live cd?11:07
octani learn something new everyday :D11:08
NineTeen67CometLynoure: lol .. they can hardly double click, I don't think walking them through CLI would take well ..11:08
LynoureNineTeen67Comet: just because you can use the gui does not mean you need to11:08
MilhousePunkRockDoes anyone now a poker site that has a Linux client too?11:08
NineTeen67Cometabattoir: when I boot into the live cd .. it doesn't give me a desktop (to use while I talk to them on the phone) ..11:08
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LynoureNineTeen67Comet: actually, often CLI is easier to explain and less risky11:09
abattoirNineTeen67Comet: the first option in the Live Cd does that.... 'Start Kubuntu', iirc11:09
abattoirNineTeen67Comet: it is identical to the ubuntu live cd in those aspects11:09
NineTeen67CometLynoure: I tried to get them to do a simple top -d 1 command and it blew their mind .. I think eth0 192.168.0.2 up followed by route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0 .. would kill them on the spot ..11:10
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KCmooreOoo11:10
Lunar_Ravennine:  K-Menu, System Settings, Network Settings...then click on Administration Mode, type in your password, hit enter... click the interface that's listed, click configure interface, and there you can change DHCP11:10
Lunar_Ravenheh11:10
Lunar_Raven:P11:10
NineTeen67Cometabattoir: there is no Applications button in KDE .. that's how non linier they are .. I'm telling you . they are about as understanding as a 2X4 ..11:10
KCmooreI'm trying out kubuntu111:10
apmypwhy in KWeather i can`t find "Latvia"?11:10
KCmooreDamn KDE is hot.11:11
KCmooreSo much better looking than Xubuntu11:11
Lunar_Ravenyeah11:11
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Lunar_Ravenxubuntu is kind of..ehhh...11:11
Lunar_Ravenbut i use it on my laptop11:11
NineTeen67CometIt's no biggie I guess, the live cd didn't work in my lappy either (I had kubuntu on that one for a while too .. just don't get it) ..11:11
Lunar_Ravenits fast11:11
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abattoirNineTeen67Comet: you could try the 'safe mode' thing(the 2nd option in the livecd boot menu)11:12
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KCmooreMy friend was like: What?! thats not Mac or Windows?!?!?! WHAT IS IT?!11:12
LynoureNineTeen67Comet: do they have network access now? If yes, there is vnc... or asking them for the relevant files and just patching them11:12
NineTeen67CometThink second option was "Repair Install" .. it wasn't the normal boot up that the live cd gives me normally .. I use it at work often to show Linux to people ..11:12
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KCmooreInstalling kubuntu messed up my amarok11:13
KCmooreI had amarok fast forward now I have the old one11:13
KCmoore:(11:13
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NineTeen67CometLynoure:  they have their MS box hooked to the www, but the Kubuntu box is not hooked up (No DHCP selected .. it's got my manual ip stuff in it right now, and they are about a 45 minute drive away so I can't just run over and fix it) ..11:13
apmypI cant open this page http://www.google.com/notebook/ in Konqueror!11:13
MetaMorfoziSwhy use konqueror?:D11:14
abattoirapmyp: works for me...11:14
NineTeen67CometLynoure: I asked them to forwared port 22 to their Kubuntu computer and they hung up on me ..11:14
abattoirapmyp: i have a firefox id for *.google.com/* though11:14
KCmooreIt works in konqueror11:14
KCmooreI'm sick of konqueror11:14
KCmooreI use nautilus and firefox.11:14
KCmooreSeriously11:14
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KCmooreWhat is up with the kde dragon mascot?!11:15
LynoureNineTeen67Comet: Nasty of them. Are they at least paying for your time?11:15
bioticproI like konq, its faster and renders better looking than firefox11:15
jott_opera ftw :p11:15
Lynoureapmyp: I get it open fine11:15
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apmypabattoir: why Konqueror cent do  this?11:15
KCmooreAhh opera...11:15
NineTeen67CometLynoure: they paid me for the hardware, and it's an OLD ass computer so XP wouldn't run for them (Wouldn't even detect hardware) .. so I told them I use linux, and it would run great on there .. it does, but they are a work .. Once they are on the www, they are gone off my radar ..11:16
KCmooreI've been using tmsnc for ages11:16
abattoirapmyp: it works in Konqueror :)11:16
KCmooreBut now I can use Konqueror!11:16
Diuneimama!mp3player11:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:16
apmypLynoure: do you know how you do it?11:16
Diuneimama!mp3 player11:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3 player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:16
NineTeen67CometLynoure: they brought a computer over, needed a hd, ram, vid card ..11:16
KCmoore!amarok11:16
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org11:16
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abattoirapmyp: but services like Gmail have problem w/ konq.(not the other way around)... a simple Tools->Change browser ID->Firefox fixes this11:16
apmyp!konqueror11:16
ubotukonqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 1911 kB, installed size 5168 kB11:16
Lynoureapmyp: I started konqueror and pasted in the url11:17
KCmoore!Linus Torvalds11:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Linus Torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:17
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apmyp11:17
apmypbut Kweather do not work11:18
NineTeen67CometLynoure: and abattoir thanks much for your time .. off to dink with my own junk .. lol11:18
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apmypthere is no Latvia/Riga in there11:18
KCmooreHey, whats a sweet kde icon set?11:18
apmypKCmoore: Human11:19
abattoirKCmoore: Crystal Clear...11:19
Lynoureapmyp: what kind of problem/error you get?11:19
KCmooreNooo!11:19
abattoirKCmoore: realistiK is a new iconset... its a compilation from other sets.... and it looks great too :)11:19
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flaccidwhat is the default runlevel for kubuntu and how can i find out what the current runlevel is?11:20
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apmypLynoure: in applet KWeather i cant find my Country: Europe/Latvia11:20
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sumhallo?11:21
apmyphi11:21
Lynoureapmyp: I meant with konqueror?11:21
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sumknnen wir hier auch auf deutsch reden?11:21
KCmooreOMG realistik looks sweet!11:21
abattoir!de11:21
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:21
KCmoore21 MB though!!!11:21
sumthx11:21
abattoirKCmoore: its worth it ;)11:21
apmypLynoure: Google Notebook11:22
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apmypdont work11:22
Lynoureapmyp: What error message?11:22
jott_apmyp: you could try to edit ~/.kde/share/config/weather_panelappletrc and enter your station in the record_location=...11:22
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apmypjott_: thanks11:22
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KCmooreOk. downloading @ 10kb/s11:23
KCmooreEw, thats slow11:23
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KCmooreThe kde look servers must be really slow.11:24
abattoirKCmoore: its hosted externally... not on kde-look11:24
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Ashexnight11:25
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flaccidcan qtparted do usb flash drivers/mass storage?11:26
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mortenskytyes11:26
flaccidoh sweet11:26
flaccidi see!11:26
mortenskyt(-:11:26
flaccidsometimes i have to reboot to be able to make changes in qtparted after applying a change11:27
paul___I set up my wireless dongle, but i does'nt altomatically connect when i switch on, does anyknow how to fix this11:27
mortenskytwhat? doesn't make sense11:27
mortenskytflaccid: should just be a matter of unmounting first11:27
mortenskytthen you should be able to do whatever partitioning you feel like11:27
apmypLynoure: Loading... everytime11:27
mortenskytand changes will apply immediately11:28
apmypLoading...Loading...Loading...Loading...11:28
abattoirapmyp: try changing the id11:28
apmypFirefox 1.011:28
apmypLoading...11:28
apmypdont work11:28
abattoirapmyp: well, it works for me11:28
flaccidmortenskyt: not in this case11:29
flaccidcan't you do fat32 on usb flash?11:29
mortenskytyes, it's called vfat I think11:29
abattoirapmyp: change to firefox 1.511:29
abattoirapmyp: 1.5.04, if you have it11:30
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abattoirapmyp: i guess it works only w/ firefox, as it installs an ff extension11:30
flaccidmortenskyt: vfat is not listed only fat1611:31
mortenskythm...11:31
abattoirapmyp: or you could do it manually11:31
kutan>_< I've been trying to figure out how to get audacity this entire time, can someone just give me a URL for the repositories?11:31
flacciddoesn't matter. good enough..11:31
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mortenskytI don't know, during reinstallation of kubuntu a few days ago, the installer had some nice partitioner11:32
mortenskytcould do pretty much any format, that one must be somewhere around in the distro11:32
JohnFluxmortenskyt: qparted11:32
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abattoirkutan: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu follow the instructions, enable universe11:32
mortenskytyea, probably, just seemed like it could do more formats11:32
apmypi cant change: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Linux i686; ru; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041108 Firefox/1.011:33
JohnFluxqtparted  rather11:33
abattoirkutan: then you'd find audacity in adept... or you could install w/ 'sudo apt-get install audacity'11:33
kutanThanks.11:33
abattoirbuz: 'apt-cache show <package>'11:33
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buzabattoir: thanks11:34
abattoirbuz: or click on the package in adept also shows the section11:34
buz(hopefully it does support wildcards)11:34
flaccidqtparted doesn't present an option for fat32 for my usb drive11:34
abattoir*clicking11:34
mortenskytflaccid: try use vfat11:34
flaccidthere is no vfat!11:34
mortenskytoh, hm, I have option fat32 in my qtparted I can see11:34
flaccidno option11:34
flaccidmortenskyt: is it a usb drive?11:35
mortenskytnope11:35
mortenskytanyway, do it manually11:35
flaccidexactly11:35
fdovingbuz: you can't do that, unless you have all the repositories present in /etc/apt/sources.list, then you can use 'apt-cache policy package' and compare the versionnumber of Installed and the version table.11:35
mortenskytshouldn't be hard, du it from the console... brb phone11:35
flaccidwith which binary?11:35
buzfdoving: that might be what i want, thanks11:35
kutanThat's weird abattoir, I did the command to install it but it says "Unable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?"11:35
kutanOh nevermind, it's because adept was open11:36
abattoirkutan: you might have another instance of apt-get/adept running11:36
abattoir:)11:36
kutanbut now it just says "couldn't find package"11:36
kutanI don't know why it's not working now, I did this twice before.11:36
mortenskytflaccid: in the console, you can't just do a mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1 (or whatever your partition on your usbdisk is)?11:36
fdovingbuz: you can easily find out if it's from universe or from main etc. but it's harder to find out if it's from let's say uk.archive.ubuntu.com or mirror.example.com for example.11:36
abattoirkutan: did you click on 'Fetch Updates' ?11:36
fdovingbuz: don't know if it's usefull to you, but i find 'apt-cache madison packagename' very handy.11:37
KCmooreWTF, when I download stuff it opens up Kate!11:37
buzfdoving: well i'm having some third party packages that pose issues with an edgy update11:37
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kutan...oops XD11:37
buzi want to get rid of them, but first i need to find them all ;)11:37
kutanI always forget 1 little thing11:37
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KCmooreKonqui is such a pimp11:42
buzfdoving: madison is perfect, thanks11:42
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krautmoin11:54
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Fadegood morning.11:54
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The_Stephanmorning11:54
fdovingmorning.11:55
fdoving!adept crash fix > fdoving11:55
Fadewell, the move from dapper -> edgy was fun.11:56
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Fadethe X packages weren't totally sorted out. tht took awhile to straighten out. also, the kernel shipped for powerpc on edgy doesn't boot my machine because it can't mount the root fs.11:57
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buzi think i'll resist the urge to upgrade to edgy for now then12:03
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nagyvI have a properly running kubuntu, but read the "features" of automatix, and would like to know more about swiftfox. Is it safe to install it or it is more buggy?12:06
fdoving!swiftfox12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
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fdovingnagyv: generally we don't recommend using automatix.12:07
fdoving!automatix12:07
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.12:07
fdovingI don't know anything about swiftfox though.12:07
nagyvfdoving: I know this. I was asking about swiftfox.12:07
nagyvfdoving: thx12:07
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Jucatonagyv: I heard some people having good experiences with swiftfox. I personally haven't tried it so I can't give my own opinion..12:08
fdovinghttp://www.getswiftfox.com/ubuntu.htm12:08
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KCmooreI'm just installing the realistik icon set12:09
JucatoKCmoore: it's nice isn't it?12:10
KCmooreYeah, it looks pretty sweet.12:10
KCmooreI haven't installed all of it just yet though12:10
JucatoI have. :-D12:10
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ROBOdhello guys12:11
ROBOdit's me again :)12:11
Jucatoalthough I used the script to change the K Menu icon from the ferny default to the cool K Menu icon12:11
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ROBOdi downloaded polyester, i konfigured my KDE colour theme. now KDE looks almost like ubuntu12:11
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KCmooreOMG12:11
KCmoore*gsms*12:12
ROBOdhowever ... i can't get rid of the blue icons :)12:12
KCmooreIt makes Mac look dodgey12:12
ROBOdi selected the Human icons theme in kcontrol12:12
ROBOdit works, it changes most of the icons. but... it doesn't change the folder & file icons12:12
Jucatoyeah the Human icons are orange. you can download a set like that fro KDE-Look12:12
ROBOdwhy?12:12
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ROBOdJucato: i downloaded one. it works ... *but* ... that set is incomplete12:13
ROBOdand many icons are missing12:13
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KCmooreGah12:14
KCmooreThis just looks so good!12:14
ROBOdi don't know why kubuntu guys don't try to make it kde stuff look like gnome (or vice-versa ... or a new theme that both teams agree upon)12:14
KCmooreI need to dump girlfriend.12:14
KCmooreand ask realistik out on a date.12:15
ROBOdone can't realistically expect a user to utilise only kde stuff, only gnome stuff12:15
DannilionI found that gnome apps look better in KDE than KDE apps look in Gnome12:15
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Dannilionone of the reasons I use Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu12:16
ROBOd:)12:16
KCmoorekde apps actually work in gnome?12:16
KCmooreGah12:16
KCmooreI'm just so sick of xfce12:16
Dannilionthey did for me12:16
ROBOdlol12:16
ROBOdthey work12:16
KCmooreANYTHING looks better than xfce12:16
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DannilionWhat? Even Windows? :P12:17
KCmooreNO!12:17
bas89nooo12:17
Fadewhy are you using it? I haven't seen xfce for years. :)12:17
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KCmooreIts all I've ever known12:17
KCmooreI grew some balls and switched to kde just today12:17
Fadeyou're like that guy in the lab that still uses twm. :)12:17
KCmooreIts sooo pretty12:17
KCmooreHardly12:17
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KCmooreI used to use Mandriva with icewm too.12:18
KCmooreThat wasn't that good.12:18
Dannilionmy KDE is pretty now I've messed with it12:18
FadeI used enlightenment from the time it was just an fvwm hack until a couple of years ago and then switched to kde.12:18
DannilionIt's officially cute12:18
Fadelol. nicely put12:18
ROBOdso, how to get rid of blue icons? :)12:19
KCmooreEnlightenment looks pretty cool12:19
Fadeinstall a new icon theme.12:19
DannilionI need purple icons12:19
DannilionThe the KMenu icon has been replaced with Tux12:20
Fadeenlightenment is pretty cool. it's funny that people used to criticise it based on how 'bloated' it was. now I use it on small footprint hardware. :)12:20
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ROBOdbtw, i don't like the new theme in kubuntu edgy eft12:20
ROBOdtooooo purple12:20
FadeI'm a monochromat. the only spectra I can see is in the blue range.12:20
KCmooreHey, how to I install window decorations?12:20
DannilionEdgy Eft is Purple?12:20
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HazDannilion, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu12:22
Dannilionthanks12:22
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ROBOdany human icon theme that actually works in kde?12:22
Hazanytime :D12:22
Dannilionjust got there from Google :P12:22
KCmoore Hey, how to I install window decorations?+12:23
Fade[ http://vader.deepsky.com:8080/us/201121d4 ] [ Trouble on the Debian Front? ] 12:23
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Fadeinstall a new style from the system settings application in appearance.12:23
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Dannilionthat purple isn't very nice12:25
DannilionI'll just use my purple theme12:25
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zorgluuuyou think too, hey ? :)12:27
Dannilionyup12:27
zorgluuui think it will go away before release due to public pressure :)12:27
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DannilionI like lilacs and dark purples12:28
Dannilionbut not wishy washy purples12:28
Dannilionthat's too wishy waashy12:28
zorgluuufrom here it seems like a 'personnal choise' of the theme guys. and i dont think it will be popular enought to stay12:28
Dannilionyeah12:29
zorgluuuthey should do poll or something12:29
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DannilionYup12:29
DannilionBlue is pretty popular12:29
Diuneimamahey guys I have a problem connect to the kopete12:29
Dannilionbut purple is an iffy colour if you get the wrong shade12:29
Diuneimamau guy got any idea?12:29
DannilionDiuneimama, what do you mean?12:29
KCmooreEhm, that was a little general12:29
Dannilionyeah :P12:30
KCmooreHow do I install window decorations?12:30
Diuneimamai mean i cant connect using kopete12:30
DannilionConnect to what?>12:30
KCmooreUse gaim12:30
Diuneimamaafter i had reboot12:30
Diuneimamato msn12:30
KCmooreor Tmsnc12:30
KCmooreor aMSN12:30
DiuneimamaKCmoore where to get those file?12:30
Diuneimamaadept manager?12:30
Dannilionmine works fine (just connected)12:30
DannilionAre you behind a proxy?12:30
KCmooreSynaptic package manager?12:31
Dannilionsudo apt-get install amsn?12:31
Martijn81Dannilion: i like blue#055EA3 :)12:31
Diuneimamai haven download amsn12:31
Diuneimamacan i use "sudo apt-get" ?12:31
KCmooreProbably12:31
KCmooredon't though12:31
KCmooreIts annoying.12:32
KCmooreapt-get moo12:32
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KCmooreThats the only apt-get I use12:32
DannilionYes, you can use sudo apt-get install amsn12:32
Dannilionand it's not that annoying12:32
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DiuneimamaDannilion12:32
Diuneimamai have conected12:32
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KCmooreSo have I12:32
DannilionOh, good!12:32
KCmooreNo12:32
KCmooreNow*12:33
Dannilionso have I :P12:33
DannilionMight have just been slow12:33
KCmooreSomeone help me with installing window decorations!!!12:33
DiuneimamaDannilion i didnt no i have to off proxy from the browser12:33
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Diuneimamathanks :)12:33
Dannilionahhh, so it was a proxy :)12:33
DannilionNo problem :)12:33
DannilionYou caught me in a good mood :P12:33
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slow-motionhallo12:34
Dannilionhello slow-motion :)12:35
Diuneimama:)12:35
slow-motionhi Dannilion12:35
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Diuneimamacan i know what player does linux able to use ?12:37
KCmooreHow do I install window decorations?12:37
DiuneimamaKCmoore wat u mean window decorations?12:38
KCmooreVLC, XMMS, Amarok, Xine, Kaffeine (crap).12:38
KCmooreUmm12:38
KCmooreLike12:38
Diuneimamayup KCmoore12:38
Diuneimamathey are crap12:38
KCmooreThe top of the window12:38
KCmooreyou know12:38
Diuneimamamy com now is totally out of song n movie12:38
Diuneimamatop of the window dun have anything12:39
Diuneimama:P12:39
KCmooreYou know the theme for the top of the window12:39
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DiuneimamaXD12:40
Diuneimamasorry kcmoore i dun know :(12:40
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Diuneimamadam kopete is really a crap12:40
Diuneimamalousy12:40
Dannilionkopete does the job12:41
Dannilionbut there are better clients out there, yes12:41
fdovingDiuneimama: that's not a very constructive comment.12:41
DiuneimamaXd12:42
Diuneimamasorry12:42
Diuneimamaany nice player to introduce to me?12:43
fdovingmusic/video ?12:45
fdovingi use codeine for video.. and amarok for music.12:45
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Diuneimamafdoving : but i cant play mp3 with amarok12:47
fdoving!mp312:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:47
fdovingyou need the 'libxine-extracodecs' package i guess.12:47
Diuneimamacan i get it with adept manager?12:47
fdovingyes. make sure you've enabled the multiverse repository first.12:47
fdoving!multiverse12:48
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:48
Diuneimamafdoving : ok letme try12:48
Diuneimamafdoving : thanks12:48
fdovingyou're welcome :)12:48
fdovingdetails about mp3 support: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-1340337f2ca1d0c54900935468515ba7630fcc5912:48
fdovingyou should look under 'Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)'12:49
fdovingto enable the multiverse repository read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:49
Diuneimamafdoving : ok12:49
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Fadefdoving -- what module do you have loaded to enable the sound chip in your powerbook?12:52
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fdovingFade: hang on..12:54
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KomiaPoikahi12:54
KomiaPoikai'm installing kubuntu on my laptop, anyone minds to babysit me a little?12:54
KomiaPoikawhen partitioning the hard disk manually, what am i supposed to enter in "label" fields? mount points?12:55
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fdovingFade: snd-powermac, snd-pcm-oss and snd-seq-oss12:55
Fadehuh12:55
Fadesnd-powermac gives me an error at init time.12:55
Fade'snd unknown layout id 0x40'12:56
Fadeand what i've read online indicates that snd-aoa should be the module for new(ish) powerbooks.12:56
fdovinghmm.. no clue about that..12:56
fdovingah..12:56
fdovingmaybe.12:56
fdovingmy ibook is like ~1.5 years old.12:56
fdoving.. and i get a new battery from the 'blowing-up-batteries-program' :)12:57
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Fadethe strange thing is, the default 2.6.15 kernel in dapper drove the soundboard fine, but the snd-powermac module in 2.6.17 doesn't.12:58
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KomiaPoikawhat is the "label" field in the create partition input box?12:59
Fadelargely unimportant, but I usually set it to match the mountpoint I intend for the partition. ie root for / or user for /usr01:00
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KomiaPoikaFade: how can i create 2 primary partitions and 3 extended partitions ? it seems i cant create more than 4 partitions01:04
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Diuneimamafdoving : i having a problem installing libxine-extracodecs01:04
fdovingDiuneimama: explain.01:05
Diuneimamafdoving : its say if i install it will break some packages?01:05
Arepiehow to share a folder in samba ?01:05
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Diuneimamafdoving :  its says couldnot commit changes : there was an error commiting changes. possible there was a problem downloading some packages or the commint would break packages01:06
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fdovingDiuneimama: from konsole, try: 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'01:12
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Diuneimamafdoving ok01:13
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FadeKomiaPoika: you create your two primary paritions, then you create a logical partition, which will hold the remaining ones.01:18
KomiaPoikaFade: you mean extended?01:18
Fadenot unless the nomenclature in the program has changed. which partitioning program are you using?01:18
Fadeusing fdisk, when you choose to create a partition it asks you if you want to create a primary or a logical partition.01:19
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Fadeyou need to use one of your primary partitions to create the logical one.01:19
DiuneimamaThe following packages have unmet dependencies:01:20
Diuneimama  libxine-extracodecs: Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable01:20
DiuneimamaE: Broken packages01:20
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Diuneimamafdoving:  this is wat i get01:20
DannilionI had broken packages last night01:20
Dannilionso that's not just you01:20
Diuneimamahmm01:20
DiuneimamaXD01:20
DiuneimamaLOL01:20
Fadeso you can have hba1, hba2, hba3 as primary, hba4 will be invisible containing the logical volume, and then your remaining partitions will be numbered hda5,6,701:20
Jucato??01:20
KomiaPoikaFade: i've had little luck with the graphic installer, so now i'm trying the failsafe one01:21
Fades/hba/hda01:21
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KomiaPoikaFade: can i /msg you?01:21
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FadeI'd rather you didn't because I might not be here in a few minutes and then the rest of the channel can't help with your questions.01:22
TaduHi everyone, am I the only one whose konsole has stopped knowing bold colors after the upgrade to KDE 3.5.4?01:22
KomiaPoikashould my swap partition be extended from my / partition?01:22
FadeI almost always put swap in a primary partition.01:22
Fadealthough you don't have to.01:22
thomasis kubuntuforums website down?01:22
FadeI usually make swap the first partition on the disk, because it's the fastest.01:23
Jucatothomas: yes I think so01:23
thomas:(01:23
Jucatoyeah... bummer01:23
thomaswhy....01:23
JucatoI have no idea.01:23
KomiaPoikaFade: i wanna do something like this:01:23
KomiaPoika150mb ext3 /boot primary01:23
KomiaPoika15gb xfs / primary01:23
KomiaPoika19gb xfs /home01:23
KomiaPoika5gb xfs /var01:23
KomiaPoika1gb swap01:23
KomiaPoikabut kubuntu wont let me01:24
fdoving!pastebin01:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:24
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DiuneimamaKomia i think u will need more in ex301:24
zorgluuuKomiaPoika: out of curiosity, why do you want xfs ?01:25
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Fadeswap - 1 primary ; /boot second primary - ext3 ; / third primary xfs ; /home first logical xfs ; /var second logical xfs01:25
KomiaPoikamy friend advised me but i don't know why01:25
thomasisnt' aaCplus streaming audio format the same as ogg?01:26
KomiaPoikawhat is the safest fs as far as brutal loss of power are concerned?01:26
Jucatothomas: it's up again... probably some problem with the server *shrugs*01:26
thomasor do i need another decoder01:26
Jucatothomas: no they are different01:26
FadeI don't understand the question.01:26
Jucatoyou need the w32codecs for that01:26
SonicChaoHow do I use Gtk-Qt on Kubuntu?01:26
thomasJucato: do you know what decodeer i will need?01:26
JucatoAFAIK... but there are some streams I couldn't play...01:26
zorgluuuKomiaPoika: i would advised to go for the widest deployed one. aka ext301:26
Jucatothomas: w32codecs, AFAIK01:26
FadeI'd personally use reiserfs instead of xfs.01:27
Fadeymmv01:27
KomiaPoikaFade: why is xfs bettar than ext3?01:27
thomasisn't it so that they don't work on 64 bit kubuntu?01:27
thomasJucato ^01:27
KomiaPoikaFade: the laptop is at high risk of loss of power and brutal shutdown01:27
zorgluuuKomiaPoika: except if you are running for kind of highend server, there is no need to do specific stuff01:27
Fade'better' depends on the job.01:27
Jucatothomas: oh I didn't know you were using 64 bit01:27
Fadefor very large files, xfs is very efficient.01:27
zorgluuuFade: out of curiosity, why do you use resierfs ?01:27
KomiaPoikathe job is to operate into unstable power conditions and the laptop's battery is dead01:27
TaduHmm, nobody there who has an idea for my problem?01:28
thomasJucato: i did not expect you to, either ;)01:28
Fadebut reiser is better with small files and it's faster in general.01:28
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buzi dont trust reiser01:28
buzat all01:28
Fadeit's also largely understood by the linux boot process.01:28
Jucatothomas: you might want to ask for help in the forums (ubuntuforums.org and/or kubuntuforums.net)01:28
zorgluuuFade: what is the purpose of your computer ? home box ? high end server ? other ?01:28
buzreiserfs3 is the only fs that trashed partitions completely TWICE01:28
FadeI have probably 200 terrabytes in reiser volumes and I've never had a problem with it.01:28
SonicChaoTadu: what problem?01:28
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thomasCould not connect to host kubuntuforums.net. :(01:28
thomasbtw, i will put on my more familiar nickname01:29
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buzxfs is quite impressive on a laptop, but since ext3 is better supported in general, i use ext3 these days01:29
SonicChaoThomas: drop the "k" =)01:29
Jucatothomas: I can connect right now...01:29
Fadebuz -- I have hundreds of computers. which one? :)01:29
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Fadealthough, my powerbook is the only one that runs ubuntu.01:29
zorgluuufade: ?01:29
TaduSonicChao: my konsole does not print characters in bold at all anymore. In my color scheme, colors 8-15 are the same as colors 0-7, just in bold. Since 3.5.4, they're the same. Nothing bold anymore.01:29
buzif i could, i'd use ZFS01:29
zorgluuuthomas: issue with the dns from here01:30
buzmight try nexenta tomorrow01:30
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buzor venture into FreeBSDs ZFS support (been FreeBSD for half a decade)01:30
Jucatoheinkel_111: err.. scratch that... it's up and then it's down...01:30
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FadeI've had problems with xfs fluctuating in quality between kernel releases.01:30
SonicChaoTadu: Hm...did you try reinstalling konsole?01:30
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heinkel_111Jucato: yes I see so :)01:30
zorgluuuok i will not know what is the purpose of the fade box :)01:30
Fadeit's just a database backend.01:31
heinkel_111Jucato..i have given up on checking replies to my thread for some hours...01:31
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FadeI have some video storage boxes that use xfs01:31
Jucatoheinkel_111: maybe you might have better luck in http://www.ubuntuforums.org01:31
Fadebut for general use fiilesystems I like reiser because I've had very good results with it.01:31
Jucatosince w32codecs for 64bit is a common problem to all the *buntus01:32
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TaduSonicChao: No idea why that should help, but I just did it (sudo apt-get install --reinstall konsole), but no change there.01:32
Fademost bsd afficionados I know hate all linux filesystems because they're generally asyncronous. :)01:32
Fade"That's dangerous Ned!"01:32
TaduI checked the color scheme file manually, it still has "bold" set to "1" in it...01:32
Fademy powerbook runs reiserfs.01:32
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Fadeif you want to run disk quotas, xfs is a better choice.01:33
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SonicChaoTadu: Ok...hm....does the same thing happen in gnome-terminal by any chance?01:33
DiuneimamaQuestion : Any other codec can make Amorok works with mp3 ??01:34
TaduI don't have gnome-terminal installed. And it only started doing this after I installed KDE 3.5.4 yesterday. Before, bold colors were fine.01:34
buzFade: since i keep backups religiously, FS stability isnt that important01:34
buzdrives generally fail much more often than FS does01:34
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FadeI use battery backed hardware raid on production filesystems.01:34
SonicChaoTadu: Must be a bug...file a bug report01:34
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FadeI have enough disks that I lose a couple every month.01:35
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Tadu*sigh* Okay...01:36
SonicChaoTadu: and if you need to see if the same thing happens in gnome-terminal, "sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal"01:36
TaduI just wondered whether someone could reproduce it.01:36
Tadu(konsole: just enter "tput setaf bold; echo bla" and check whether it is bold01:36
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fdovingTadu: kde 3.5.4 got a few problems when run on dapper. i'm on edgy so i can't reproduce.01:36
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SonicChaoTadu: Well, I can't. =( I still using KDE 3.5.201:37
TaduBleh. NO setaf, that was just for colors. Anyway.01:37
FadeI'm generally impressed with the kde setup on edgy.01:37
buzFade: do you keep stats on brands?01:37
stewrazwhen i try to transfere files from a backup DVD it will stop on random files and say it cannot copy. gives me the option to skip or stop01:37
Fadealthough moving from dapper->edgy wasn't for the faint of heart.01:37
TaduHmm, is it worth the trouble updating to Edgy?01:37
Fadebuz -- yeah.01:37
Fadewe use a lot of western digital and maxtor disks.01:37
Fadesteer clear of seagate.01:37
buzok, maxtor i wont buy01:37
fdovingTadu: wait, unless you know your way around apt-get and dpkg.01:38
FadeIBM used to make the best spindles available, but since they were sold to hitachi their prices are up and their quality is down.01:38
buzactually, i have about 10 seagates (2-3 year old), no failure01:38
SonicChaoWhen EDGY is out, I'm keeping dapper anyway01:38
buzbut dont get me started about maxtor, really01:38
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FadeI've never had a head or spindle failure on seagate, but their sata controller hardware is shit.01:38
Fadethey used to make nice scsi disks.01:38
buzok mine are PATA still01:38
fdovingbuz, fade: please take the disk discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic. thanks :)01:38
TaduI guess I do know my way around apt-get and dpkg (I upgrade my Dapper from Breezy from Sarge from Sid from ...)...01:39
zorgluuui find it quite surprising, they dont choose kernel according to those kind of criteria01:39
stewrazcan someone please help me01:39
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TaduSonicCchao: Why not when it is released?01:39
Fadey'know, if you can't talk about silly stuff between questions, this channel is a lot like work.01:39
Fadeit wasn't like we were talking religion or politics. :)01:39
fdovingstewraz: bad dvd disc? bad dvd-drive?01:40
DiuneimamaQuestion : Any other codec or package can make Amorok works with mp3 ??? Anyone can help?01:40
stewrazwell it never did it when i was using windows01:40
buzsome say buying hardware IS religion ;)01:40
buz(FS definitely are)01:40
fdovingFade: this channel is work. #kubuntu-offtopic is after work.01:40
JucatoDiuneimama: what was the problem again with installing libxine-extracodecs?01:40
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DannilionDiuneimama cannot download libxine-extracodecs using apt01:40
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Dannilionit cannot find them01:41
fdovingFade: search your logs for 'thanks' or 'thank you' :)01:41
JucatoDiuneimama: you need to enable the multiverse component of the repositories01:41
Fadestewraz: optical media does go bad. how old is the disk?01:41
DannilionJucato- Diuneimama's multiverse is enabled01:41
DiuneimamaJucato i had done it :(01:41
Jucatoso what happened?01:41
DannilionIt can't find it01:42
Diuneimamabut i dunno why its still wont be able to install01:42
stewrazfade: about 3 days been burnt. not sre how old its been sitting it the cupboard, it wasnt mine01:42
KomiaPoikaat last i found my way out of the partitioner01:42
stewrazi was wondering if there was a known issue01:42
Fadestewraz: do you have another drive you can check it out on?01:42
JucatoDiuneimama: could you pastebin 2 things for me? 1) your sources.list and 2) the error message you receive when trying to install libxine-extracodecs01:42
buzstewraz: try a dd if=/dev/dvd of=some.iso01:42
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JucatoDiuneimama: please use pastebin01:42
Jucato!pastebin01:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:42
buz(or whatever device your dvdrom lives at)01:42
Fadeoptical drives go bad at an alarming rate now that they cost less than a hundred bucks.01:42
stewrazfade: yes i do, not sure why i didnt think of that01:43
DiuneimamaJucato i dun know wat is paste bin01:43
Jucato!pastebin01:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:43
Diuneimamacan i paste u throughpms?01:43
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fdovingDiuneimama: pastebin is prefered.01:43
JucatoDiuneimama: it's better to discuss this here for the benefit of others01:43
stewrazbuz: what will that command do01:44
Diuneimamacan't open the http01:44
Fadeit'll make a disk image and save it out to a file.01:44
fdovingDiuneimama: try http://rafb.net/paste/01:44
stewrazfade: ok thanks01:44
Fadealthough if you're going to do that you should set the blocksize like this: dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/file/backup.iso bs=51201:44
Diuneimamafdoving unknown host01:45
stewrazk01:45
Jucatofdoving: some users seem to have been having problems connecting to Ubuntu's pastebin lately. any ideas why?01:45
Fadeespecially if your drive is going flaky.01:45
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buzisnt bs=512 default (or was that bsd, i forget :)01:45
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realinhi guyzz can anyone help me out ?01:45
JucatoDiuneimama: how about trying this: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/01:45
FadeI didn't think it made any assumptions about blocksize, but it won't hurt especially if dd trys to autosense on a bad drive.01:46
TaduSonicChao: Okay, its01:46
Diuneimamaunknown host XD01:46
TaduSonicChao: Okay, its #58698 then.01:46
realinccan anyone help me installin ati drivers on kubuntu01:46
Diuneimamamaybe its without the www infront of them?01:46
SonicChaoTadu: alright.01:46
JucatoDiuneimama: no it really doesn't have www.01:46
buz!ati01:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:47
realinthanks mate01:47
buzthat should get you started01:47
realinand how can i install firefox01:47
realin!ati01:47
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buzstart adept01:47
buzand search for firefox01:47
buzthe rest should be quite obvious01:48
realini have downloaded firefox01:48
buzno need to download firefox, it will do that for you01:48
realinthanks mate01:48
realingotta try that now and will be back to thank you :)01:48
fdovingDiuneimama: what happens if you try 'sudo apt-get install libmad0' from konsole?01:49
Diuneimamaok fdoving01:49
TaduInteresting tidbit: if I mark the text with the mouse, everything that should be bold will then be bold (but color inverted, of course). Wierd.01:49
Diuneimamai try01:49
xenalise_does anyone know if Konversation supports perl or pythong scripts? :|01:50
flaccidi don't think so xenalise_01:50
xenalise_I'm bored of XChat01:50
xenalise_ack01:50
stewrazquestion- has anyone heared of ktunes (it comes bundles with suse) i know it is open, but not sure if i can get it for kubuntu01:50
xenalise_might have to use KSIRC again then :(01:50
flaccideek01:50
flaccidi just go without the scripting...01:50
xenalise_what?01:50
xenalise_hehe01:50
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xenalise_I need it to make life easier01:50
Diuneimamafdoving couldnt find package01:50
xenalise_especially when your on a network where flooding keeps happening :|01:50
realinguyz, i get sounds of error messages and all, but when i play mp3 in amaroK, i hear no sound, and when i play videos, i can see videos but no sound :( can anyone help me01:51
flaccidlol wine -> mirc01:51
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JucatoDiuneimama: I think you have the main repository disabled01:51
xenalise_getting rid of bloody bots is a nuisance :|01:51
fdovingDiuneimama: can't you surf the web at all?01:51
buzrealin: might be that some app hogs soundcard for itself01:51
realinhmmm.. there is no other app running01:51
realinother than that01:51
buzwell obviously your card DOES work01:52
JucatoDiuneimama: can you check if "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ main restricted" is disabled/commented in sources.list01:52
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epHow do I use APT to determine what version of a package is already installed on my system.01:52
fdovingep: apt-cache policy package, or dpkg -s package01:52
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fdovingep: or dpkg -l package.01:53
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Jucatowhoa...01:54
JucatoDiuneimama: did you check?01:54
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DiuneimamaJucato01:55
Diuneimamai cant access to all bowser01:55
Jucatoaaah so it's an internet connection problem01:56
Diuneimamawats the problem?01:56
DiuneimamaXd01:56
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Diuneimamahow come i can connect through mirc01:56
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HobbseeJucato: Dannilion is a friend of mine from another server :)01:56
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Jucatolol01:56
HobbseeJucato: where people tend to boot in greeting :)01:56
JucatoDiuneimama: mirc on Kubuntu?01:56
Dannilionyup :P01:57
Jucatolol!01:57
Diuneimamano no i mean irc01:57
DiuneimamaXD01:57
JucatoDiuneimama: but you can't browse anything at all?01:57
fdovingDiuneimama: can you run 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and find the line "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ main restricted" - if it has a # in front remove it, the line should start with 'deb'.01:57
DiuneimamaJucato yup01:58
fdovingDiuneimama: then save and exit nano. and run 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'01:58
JucatoDiuneimama: you can first try to check if the line that I and fdoving gave is disabled/commented...01:58
FadeDiuneimama: check that /etc/resolv.conf has valid nameservers in it.01:58
Jucatobtw, the "xx" stands for us, uk. au. etc...01:58
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Fadeyou might have the ip of the freenode server cached, but are failing on the lookups to other places.01:59
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Hobbsee!info xchat02:00
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB02:00
xenalise_AmIRC thats the Amiga client isn't it? :|02:01
buzi guess it should read mIRC02:02
buzas in THE windows client02:02
xenalise_heh02:02
xenalise_XChat is still better02:02
xenalise_even on windows02:02
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xenalise_a pda phone, gonna put wmIRC on it :D02:03
xenalise_1.8mbps connex on the phone hehe02:03
buzgood luck getting windows mobile to sync to linux02:03
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xenalise_buz: I hear its possible through synce with some plugins02:03
xenalise_even then... I have VMware Workstation :)02:03
fdovingxenalise_: pda discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic please.02:04
Jucatoehehe02:04
xenalise_oh... sowwy :(02:04
Jucatohehe02:04
fdovingno problem, trying to keep this channel somewhat on-topic.02:04
Jucatoit's easy to get carried away with off-topic discussions :-D02:04
Jucatothat's why we have people like fdoving and aliasfred around :-D02:04
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Taduquit watching Video on Linux02:05
Jucatodarn I lost all my alias commands in Konvi.. I don't know why..02:05
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DiuneimamaSory jux now i was working on those step02:06
Diuneimamabtw02:06
Diuneimamaabout /etc/resolv.conf02:07
Diuneimamai have nameserver 10.1.1.102:07
Diuneimamaits it correct?02:07
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fdovingyou can try to change it to 'nameserver 4.2.2.1' if it works you're lucky :)02:07
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fdovingif not, you could just change it back.02:08
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Diuneimamai cant rewrite it02:08
fdovinguse 'sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf02:08
fdoving'02:08
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Diuneimamaoh02:08
Diuneimamaok02:08
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adz21canyone have any idea why when I try to watch a DVD with 4.0 audio and up (I want 5.1) in kaffeine it says "audio output unavailable. Device is busy()". Yet when I put it to 3.0 and below it's ok. This is using xine.02:09
h3sp4wn194.112.32.1 (is a definately openly accessible dns cache - I built it years ago)02:10
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fdoving4.2.2.1 is easy to remember :)02:11
Diuneimamaomg.. fdoving02:12
Diuneimamait works :)02:12
Diuneimamaaaaaaaaaa02:12
Jucatoall praise fdoving's unimaginable powers!!!02:13
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h3sp4wnIt will still be overwriten on reboot though02:13
Jucatoeheh02:13
Diuneimama:)02:14
Diuneimamaso can i try to apt-get "the codec"02:14
JucatoDiuneimama: yes02:15
DiuneimamaJucato, y is this happen02:16
DiuneimamaE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:16
DiuneimamaE: Unable to lock the list directory02:16
fdovingDannilion: as h3sp4wn says, this nameserver change will be overwritten on reboot. you can however, edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and make a new line that contains: 'supersede domain-name-servers 4.2.2.1;'02:16
Jucatohm...02:16
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JucatoDiuneimama: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" first02:16
fdovingDiuneimama: close the running adept.02:16
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fdovingor use:02:16
fdoving!adept crash fix02:16
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'02:16
fdovingwell.. that's another lock file.. though.02:16
Diuneimamaso which one i do 1st XD02:16
fdoving'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock' would do.02:16
Jucatolol02:16
Diuneimamaok02:16
Diuneimamaso now i get a command02:17
Diuneimamakill the process?02:17
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fdovingyes,.02:17
Diuneimamadone02:18
fdovingthen try again.02:18
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Diuneimamaoh well y my /etc/resolv.conf is being reset?02:23
bruce_hi all02:23
Goliath23hi02:23
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adz21canyone have any idea why when I try to watch a DVD with 4.0 audio and up (I want 5.1) in kaffeine it says "audio output unavailable. Device is busy()". Yet when I put it to 3.0 and below it's ok. This is using xine. I seem to have the same problem with xine-ui02:24
fdovingDiuneimama: at reboot it will be, yes.02:24
Diuneimamafdoving so everytime when i nid to browse i nid to set it ro 4.2.2.1 my own?02:25
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fdovingDiuneimama: i gave you a solution on how to fix this: 14:17 < fdoving> Dannilion: as h3sp4wn says, this nameserver change will be overwritten on reboot. you can however, edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and make a new line that contains: 'supersede domain-name-servers 4.2.2.1;'02:25
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bruce_would someone be so kind as to help me with a Grub problem IE: i can't boot windows02:26
Diuneimamafdoving under where in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf02:27
Diuneimamaanywhere?02:27
stewrazwhen i use adept to install items example (3dchess) it downloads al good but it dosnt show in the games menu02:27
stewrazam i not doing something extra02:27
Arepiestewraz: try log out an log in back02:28
lupine_85stewraz: not all programs come with a menu item02:28
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stewrazi will try that02:28
lupine_85run from terminal/"Run Command" menu item, or create your own desktop/menu item02:29
fdovingDiabolic: yes, anywhere..02:29
fdovingDiabolic: sorry, wrong nick02:29
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stewraznope it still dosnt show, is there a way i can add them to the menu02:29
Jucatostewraz: next time you could run this in Konsole to update K Menu: kbuildsycoca --incremental02:30
Jucatodisregard error messages02:30
stewrazor do i have to launch only through the console02:30
flaccidstewraz: what is the command you execute the run the binary?02:30
stewrazno i install tghrough adept02:30
stewrazno command line02:30
Jucatostewraz: take note, though, that some programs really don't make a menu entry in K Menu02:30
flaccidi just did sudo apt-get install 3dchess02:30
flaccidi type 3dchess it doesn't run02:30
stewrazyep mine dosnt run either02:31
flaccidit didn't seem to install much at all with the package02:31
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flaccidcan't see a binary02:32
stewrazi have had this issue with many small games02:32
lupine_85probably not in your path - try /usr/games/3dchess02:32
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Jucatomaybe 3D chess uses a different command to run?02:32
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bruce_could someone please tell me how to config grub to boot windows02:33
stewrazkbuildsycoca --incremental tells me that it has no database available02:33
flaccidstewraz: the command is /usr/games/302:33
flaccidoops02:33
flaccidstewraz: the command is /usr/games/3Dc02:33
Healot!grub02:33
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:33
lupine_85there's an example config in /boot/grub/menu.lst02:33
kbrooksstewraz, ignore his mistakes :-)02:34
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stewrazyep ok it launched then02:34
kbrooksstewraz, /usr/games/3dchess02:34
bruce_thank you02:34
stewrazso there is no other way to launch these games02:34
lupine_85stewraz: you can make a menu item in the usual way02:34
flaccidstewraz: you can add it to your menu02:34
flaccidyeah02:34
kbrooksstewraz, make a menu  item02:35
lupine_85right-click on the "Big K" and select edit menu...02:35
flaccidthis game is confusing... 3 boards02:35
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lupine_85erm, menu editor02:35
lupine_85flaccid: great fun though02:35
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lupine_85watch out for the cannons02:35
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stewrazlol yeah it is hard02:35
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stewrazo i open menu editor02:35
flaccidi have no idea how to play it02:36
stewrazsorry but i have only just come across to linux, how to i create a menue item for it02:36
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flaccidseems like i'm playing against myself in all three games02:36
Nitro!repos02:36
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:36
lupine_85stewraz: right-click and "new item"02:37
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stewrazahh thanks02:37
lupine_85Command would be /usr/games/3dchess ... the rest is easy to work out :)02:37
lupine_85flaccid: it's just one game02:37
lupine_85you can move pieces between boards02:37
kwtm_What program do I use to record the sound output I am sending to the speaker?  More specifically, I want to record a Realplayer audio stream of an overseas "Internet radio" broadcast that happens while I am asleep in the middle of the night.02:37
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lupine_85there's also an AI option02:38
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KomiaPoikakwtm_: use streamripper02:38
kwtm_KomiaPoika: Thanks, will look into streamripper02:38
Jucatoactually the command is "/usr/games/3Dc"02:39
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kwtm_KomiaPoika: It looks like that's for online streaming mp3 and ogg?  Is there something that will just take any output to speaker, intercept it, and put it into a file?02:40
stewrazgot it thanks heaps02:40
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KomiaPoikakwtm_: from one program using a command line its possible but to grab the entire output it may be complicated02:43
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krauthi02:45
lupine_85couldn't you just temporarily replace /dev/dsp (or the ALSA equivalent) with an empty file? (never tried it, btw)02:45
krauti have a syncmaster 203b tft and a nvida gf 6600, this is my xorg.conf: http://home.packetloss.biz/~fek/temp/xorg.conf02:45
krautdoes anybody know, why i won't get a signal on DVI?02:45
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krautin tty i have on both a signal, DVI and VGA.02:45
Fadeyou can cat a wav file to the sound device, and you'll get sound out the speaker.02:46
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Fadebut if the file isn't a plain wav, you'll get an explosive burst of static.02:46
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lupine_85Fade: looking at doing the opposite...02:46
kwtm_KomiaPoika: Okay, but suppose I just want all the output from one program (in this case, RealPlayer) which is not a KDE app?  KRec apparently only works on KDE apps.  (Must use aRts?)02:46
lupine_85...that is, capturing speaker output to a file02:46
Fadereading from a microphone?02:46
lupine_85no, from a program ;)02:47
kwtm_lupine_85: sorry, didn't notice your text up there --you didn't mention my nick so Konversation didn't highlight the text.02:47
lupine_85sorry :)02:47
kwtm_lupine_85: do you mean redirect the output of /dev/dsp?02:47
kwtm_I don't know why my nick as an underscore at the end.  Maybe I'm logged in multiple times? :P02:48
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KomiaPoikakwtm_: for mplayer for example i use: mplayer -ao pcm -aofile output.wav movie.mpg02:49
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KomiaPoikai guess you can pipe it into lame somehow02:49
stewrazwhat is the command to remove a game through terminal (just trying to learn) ;-)02:49
lupine_85no -- by defalt, an OSS program sends audio output to special device file /dev/dsp02:49
stewrazjust rm path02:49
lupine_85so by replacing the file, it (hopefully) will record the sound output as a .wav02:49
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lupine_85stewraz: apt-get remove <package>02:49
KomiaPoikahow can i update /etc/apt/sources.list with a more regional mirrors list without editint the file by hand?02:49
escayhi al02:49
escayhi all02:49
lupine_85KomiaPoika: you could use sed ;)02:49
Fademmmmmmmm. sed02:49
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kwtm_KomiaPoika: Ah, you mean using a command specific to that program.  I wonder if mplayer will do streaming RealPlayer?02:50
escayi cant install my new usb printer. its a hp DeskJet F380.  anyone got that one installed?02:50
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phiithello02:51
escayhello phiit02:51
phiitanyone have a advice how to mount ntfs on kubuntu?02:51
escayshould be automounted02:51
phiitit says02:51
phiitCould not mount device.02:51
phiitThe reported error was:02:51
phiitmount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:51
lupine_85so it's not in your fstab. add it :)02:52
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escaytake a look in the manpage of the mount command02:52
escay;-)02:52
phiithow? ;)02:52
escayman mount02:52
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FadeKomiaPoika: cd /etc/apt && sed -e 's/archive.ubuntu.com/archive.ca.ubuntu.com/g' < sources.list > /tmp/temp.sources02:52
lupine_85man fstab, more like02:52
kwtm_lupine_85: Hmm, sounds like something like "sudo ln -s /dev/dsp ~/my_hijacked_dsp_stream.raw" or something like that.  Sounds like some more tinkering that I might not have time for.  Anyway, I will keep searching in my spare time to see if there's a prepackaged solution, but if not it looks like I'll have to get up in the middle of the night to do it.02:52
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Fadeexcept, you know, with a real regional archive in the second part of the edit expression.02:52
Fadeyour edited file will be in /tmp/temp.sources02:53
kwtm_Hey, you know what?  I have an idea.  What if I just hardware connect my sound output to my line in?  HMMMMmmmmm..... tempting ....02:53
lupine_85isn't it ca.archive.ubuntu.com ?02:53
KomiaPoikakwtm_: just adapt the command to realplayer02:53
lupine_85kwtm_: that works like a charm :)02:53
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Fadelupine -- see my explanatory comment. ;)02:54
kwtm_:)  Thanks.  Anyway, gotta go, but thanks for the ideas.02:54
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Fadeprobably. I can't remember the format of the regional archive hostnames.02:54
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KomiaPoikaFade: still connecting to australia :(02:55
lupine_85don't forget to apt-get update02:55
Fadewell, you'll have to verify that temp.sources is sane, and then copy it into place at /etc/apt/sources02:55
Fadeer, /etc/apt/sources.list02:55
Fade*then* apt-get update02:56
phiiti got lost02:56
phiitwhere can i find fstab??02:57
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abattoirphiit: /etc/fstab02:57
phiitit's not there02:58
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phiitok i found it :)02:58
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Fadelupine_85: yeah, it's ca.archive.ubuntu.com02:58
phiithow do i add hdb ?02:58
KomiaPoikaFade: is it possible to get back to the installer and chose western europe to load up automagically?02:59
Fadeand I guess (br|ie|fr).archive.ubuntu.com by implication.02:59
FadeKomiaPoika: I just gave you the answer to your question.02:59
Fadewhat country are you in?02:59
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phiitanyone? :(03:00
Fadeyour question is too general.03:00
Fadeis the harddrive attached to the computer? does it already have a filesystem on it?03:01
phiityes03:01
phiitntfs03:01
Fadethen add a line to the fstab specifying the linux ntfs driver for that mount03:01
phiitntfs driver?03:02
Fadeit'd look something like this:03:02
phiiti'm very new to linux here03:02
Fade/dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs   ntfs   defaults    0    003:03
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stewrazquestion, why does the command SU not sowrk with my password, i know i read something about this03:03
stewrazbut cannot for the life of me remember03:03
Fadeassuming that the disk was hda and the ntfs partition was the first partition on that disk.03:03
phiiti already have hda1 in fstab03:03
Dace!sudo03:04
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:04
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Fadephiit -- you have to read and then understand what I'm trying to say.03:04
stewrazthanks03:04
phiitim trying03:04
FadeI don't know what disk or partition your ntfs filesystem is on, so I just pulled one out of my ass to illustrate the point. :)03:04
Fadeis it the second ide disk in the computer?03:05
phiiti added the line to fstab, i get erros:03:05
phiityes03:05
phiitsorry03:05
Fadeis it connected to the same controller as the first disk?03:05
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phiityes03:05
Fadeis the ntfs filesystem the first partition on that disk?03:06
phiitfirst and only03:06
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stewrazi am trying to remove gnuchess with sudo apt-get remove usr/games/gnuchess03:06
Fadewell, replace /dev/hda1 with /dev/hdb103:06
stewrazit says it could find the package03:06
Fadein that case.03:06
phiiterros: /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs   ntfs   defaults    0    003:06
stewraznot to worry i got it03:06
stewrazno path needed03:07
phiitwarning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab03:07
stewrazls03:07
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Fadehit return in your editor twice at the end of the final line.03:07
Fadealso, you didn't listen to what I just told you.03:07
phiitok03:08
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phiitok now i get: only root can mount /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/ntfs03:08
Fadeyou have to make sure the directory /mnt/ntfs exists.03:08
Fadeso do: mkdir /mnt/ntfs03:09
Fadeas root03:09
soulriderFade: i downlaoded the edgy eft knot 2 ISO and i want to mount it where my CD drive is, is that possible?03:09
soulrideror mount it elsewhere03:09
soulriderkind of what daemon tools does on windows03:09
Fadeand then do 'mount /mnt/ntfs' as root03:09
Fadesoulrider: is it a file or a disk?03:09
Fadeif it's a file, you need to use a loopback mount.03:10
soulriderits an .iso file, an image of a disk03:10
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Fademount /path/to/my.iso /mnt/ -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop003:10
jarferhola a todos03:11
jarferbuenas tardes03:11
soulriderhola jarfer03:11
soulrider!es03:11
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:11
soulrider;)03:11
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phiithow do i switch myself to root in kubuntu??03:11
soulrideruse "sudo"03:11
jarferperdonar es la primewra vez que utilizo linux y estoy algo perdido03:12
soulriderthatw ill run a command is if you were root03:12
phiityeah that was it03:12
soulriderok, registrate en el server y hablamos por PM03:12
jarferok03:12
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phiitwhere can i find sudo again? :)03:13
soulriderjust type sudo03:13
soulriderlike03:13
soulridersudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs03:14
soulrideror whatever03:14
Fadedid the loop mount work, soulrider ?03:14
soulriderim on it03:14
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soulrideri get03:15
soulriderthis: /dev/loop0 no such file or directory03:15
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habeebGreetings. My amarok cant play my songs. I tried every engine availabe. But amarok just passes throu the songs, and finishes the playlist immediatly. Also, I can hear sounds from GAIM, or beeps, etc.03:15
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soulrideryou need to add mp3 support03:15
Fadedo 'modprobe loop'03:15
phiitok i managed to mount it, but i can't see any files?03:15
soulrideri suggest you read the guides in the amarok site03:16
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habeebsoulrider: how?03:16
adaranis there any way to use s/mime with kmail other then with gpg2/me/rubbish?03:16
soulridergoogle their site, and read the guides there, theyw ere useful for me03:16
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soulrideri think it worked now03:16
soulriderhang on.........03:16
grizzlyIs it possible to know exactly which cdrecord commands does k3b issue.use when writing?03:17
soulriderit does :) it will go away when i reboot right ?03:17
Fadeyep03:17
grizzlyHe problem is that i can't get cdrecord to work fom cmd, but k3b works03:17
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soulriderok03:17
phiitany idea anyone?03:17
Fadeyou could also just unmount it. ;)03:17
soulrideralso, im gonna use vmware to install edgy, i will be bale to dot hat from this directory right ?03:17
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FadeI've never done that, but I don't see why not.03:18
habeebThe following packages have been kept back: amarok amarok-xine -> ? :/03:18
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Fadeunless vmware expects a raw .iso image.03:18
Fadeand not a mounted one.03:18
BazziRit can handle both03:19
Fadein which case, I'd try passing /dev/loop0 as the device address of the optical drive.03:19
soulrideruhm03:19
soulriderapparently vmware can read an iso image03:19
soulriderno need to mount or anything :)03:19
Fadephiit -- when you type 'mount' all by itself, does it report the disk mounted at /mnt/ntfs?03:19
grizzly!libburn03:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libburn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:19
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soulridertime to try dgy out :):):)03:21
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stewrazis there a way to get a link to show the desktop (hiding all windows)03:24
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stewraz?03:28
grizzlyanybody know how to use libburn?03:30
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Martijn81stewraz: something like a "show desktop" button on the panel?03:30
mcdoilsalut a tous03:30
Martijn81!fr03:30
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:30
JucatoCtrl+Alt+D03:30
stewrazyeah03:30
mcdoiljoin /kubuntu-fr03:31
Jucatostewraz: Ctrl+Alt+D or like what Martijn81 said, Add Applet to Panel > "Show Desktop"03:31
mcdoilwhat is the command please03:31
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grizzlymcdoil: /join channel . THough I owuld suggest you use Opera's irc client03:32
Martijn81mcdoil: "/join #kubuntu-fr" without the quotes03:32
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mcdoilthank you !03:32
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AtKaaZ!logs03:33
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs03:33
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srdjantHi does kubuntu use bootsplash or quingy or something else?03:46
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Jontyuuencode is not installed by default and is not available from the repos?03:48
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soulriderhave you enabled allt he repos ?03:48
Jontyas far as I know03:48
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grizzlycdrecord gives the message "cannot open /dev/sg*" device not found ?03:49
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grizzlywhen trying to record something..03:50
soulriderhey Hawkwind03:50
Jucatohi Hawkwind!03:50
soulriderim installing edgy on vmware :)03:50
soulriderbut the installation froze i think03:50
soulriderit just sais "scanning the mirror" and tis at 1%, wont go up03:50
HawkwindHey there soulrider and Jucato03:51
soulrider=)03:51
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kegiehey all! I've just upgraded to 3.5.4, worked fine except now I get the personalizer wizard every time I log in. Is there any way of getting rid of it?03:53
kegierunning dapper, btw03:53
soulriderapparently 3.5.4 has some issues03:54
soulrideri suggest you downgrade to 3.5.303:54
soulriderthats what im using right now03:55
Jucatono need to really03:55
Hobbseekegie: heya03:55
Hobbseesoulrider: i've got a fix for that03:55
Jucatoit's Hobbsee to the rescue@03:55
Hobbseekegie: are you running i386?03:55
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kegieit works fine except for the wizard thing, so I think i'd rather live with it than downgrading.. yeah, i38603:55
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Hobbseekegie: can you run "wget http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kubuntu-default-settings_6.06-23_all.deb http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kubuntu-artwork-usplash_6.06-23_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i *.deb" please?03:56
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grizzlycdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -scanbus gives http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22429 . NOw plz tell em the command to write a file to a cd.03:57
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kegiecool, trying it03:57
grizzlyI have tried cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc , it works, but then it creates a cd with 'bad blocks'03:57
Jucatokegie: if it's any comfort to you, it worked for me :-D03:57
kegiehehe, good to hear :D03:58
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Jucatoand Hobbsee is a kubuntu developer :-D03:59
soulrider:O03:59
soulriderHobbsee: i got a request for you then :P03:59
Jucatolol03:59
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Hobbseesoulrider: hehe!03:59
kegierebooting, back in a sec03:59
soulriderjucato ahs the same one :P ;)03:59
Hobbseereally now?03:59
Hobbseekegie: before youdo03:59
Netcadhow can I find out what /dev/ the device on http://pastebin.com/782596 is at?03:59
kegiestill here03:59
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soulriderHobbsee: you guys gotta add better support for pppoe connections in edgy04:00
Hobbseekegie: can you locate kpersonalizerrc, and delete the one in your home directory?  it's likely under ~/.kde/share/apps/config/kpersonalizerrc04:00
Hobbseesoulrider: indeed.  there's a bug, and a fix, but no one who has the knowledge on how to fix it has looked at it yet04:00
soulrideri got one and i never know if it disconnects or not or if it reconnected04:00
Jucatoehehe04:00
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soulriderBRB04:01
kegieHobbsee: got it, only contains a couple of icon size definitions04:01
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fdovingNetcad: do you have the 'sd_mod' module loaded?04:01
Hobbseekegie: yeah, cna you remove it, then restart kde?  (ctrl+alt+backspace works)04:02
kegieHobbsee: done, brb04:02
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Jucatosoulrider: in the meantime, you can try installing KNemo so that you would have something in your system tray. :-D04:02
fdovingNetcad: if you have 'sd_mod' loaded it should automatically tell you what device name it gets.04:02
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Netcadfdoving : with any other usb device, it works for me04:03
roguys i have a question ... i cant install easykubuntu04:03
Hobbseedefine "cant install"04:03
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kegieHobbsee: thank you! that seems to have fixed it. Got the wizard again at first, but logged out+logged in again and it was gone :D04:04
roit says that i have an old version but i download my kubuntu last week so its the last ...04:04
soulriderjucato i got a prog called rrrk-pppoe or something04:04
fdovingNetcad: what's special about this device?04:04
hilowwhere can I find more information about kubuntu lts 6.06.1 and power management features?04:04
Hobbseekegie: excellent!04:04
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fdovingro: #easyubuntu04:05
fdoving!easyubuntu > ro04:05
=== Hobbsee will have to get that patch pushed into dapper-updates tomorrow then.
Hobbseeer, today04:05
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srednaHi04:05
Jucatosoulrider: ah to connect, yes. I used pppoeconf. but I used KNemo to give me a visual cue whether i'm connected or not04:05
kegie=)04:05
soulriderahh :)04:05
srednaHow do I convince apache 2 to start on kubuntu???04:05
Hobbseehey sredna04:05
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fdovingsredna: /etc/default/apache204:05
srednaRunning /etc/init.d/apache2 start does 004:06
srednafdoving: What is that?04:06
fdovingsredna: /etc/default/apache2 set NO_START=004:06
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soulriderJucato: i guess im gonna try knemo04:06
srednaAh, thanks04:06
fdovingsredna: a config sourced by /etc/init.d/apache204:06
Netcadfdoving : it's not a usb hdd, it's an ide hdd04:06
soulriderthanks :)04:06
srednafdoving: I see.04:06
fdovingNetcad: ah, can you find it in /proc/partitions ?04:07
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Netcadfdoving :  I've got a usb cable that allows me to connect it via usb04:07
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fdovingNetcad: then i have no clue, never heard of sych a config. but i guess it should show up as a USB mass-storage device.04:08
Netcadfdoving : i cant find it.04:08
srednaHm, I need it to start php04:09
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srednaMaybe I should install php...04:09
Bbettoi try to update to kde 3.5.4, with add repositorio and update upgrade but nothing hapend? what can i do?04:09
soulriderBbetto: did you add the kde 3.5.4 repo ?04:10
Bbettoyes04:10
Bbettothis deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main04:10
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JucatoI think you need to do dist-upgrade (Full Upgrade in Adept)04:11
Netcadfdoving: it does. I just don't know how to mount it04:11
Bbettodist-upgrade in console?04:12
stewrazwhen i remove a program with apt-get it still shows in the menu. what is the command to rebuild the menu04:13
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JucatoBbetto: yes. "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"04:13
Jucatostewraz: probably "kbuildsycoca --incremental"04:13
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Bbettook i try it04:13
Jucatostewraz: but sometimes they still stick...04:13
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stewrazthanks04:14
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stewrazwhat is the easiest way to see where a program installed04:17
stewrazthrough adept?04:17
stewrazi cannot seem to launch and neet to find it04:17
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Jucatostewraz: a program installs quite a lot of files in different places04:18
mattikooHello. My Gaphig Card is Nvidia GeForce MX 400. If I install nvidia linux driver in kubuntu  and I change "nv" to "nvidia", kubuntu crashes and it has happened many times. So I cannot play games and so on.04:19
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Jucatostewraz: but you can check in Adept by clickin on the arrow beside the package name04:19
stewrazi have found where it is instaled but for the life of me i cannot launch it. lol. so sorry guys04:19
stewrazkblogger is the program04:19
Jucatostewraz: then selecting show details and the installed files tab04:19
Jucatoaah04:19
Jucatomaybe it's not a program?04:19
angasulehello, I just installed kubuntu on a pc and in the System Settings the administrator mode button doesn't work, it blanks the window and sits there, no dialog to enter the password popsup04:19
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stewrazi think its an applet04:19
Jucatoyeah... Kicker applet04:19
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stewrazwhen i run kicker in term it says its already rinning04:20
Hobbseeangasule: use kdesu kcontrol as a workaround - is this a new user, with no other files, or what?04:20
stewrazrunning04:20
HawkwindSeveas: When you see this, can you please add the fact to the bot I gave you about 'bad device error'04:20
Jucatostewraz: kicker is the KDE panel. it's running already04:20
angasuleHobbsee: I'm using the user created on install04:20
Jucatostewraz: right-click on the pannel, and select Add Applet to Panel04:21
stewrazahhh right04:21
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Hobbseeangasule: right.  so it's just weirdly died on you.  does that happen if you restart kde?  (ctrl+alt+backspace)?04:22
stewrazso if i want to remove it (cause its pretty dodge) apt-get says its running so i cant. what is the command to close the applet04:23
angasuleHobbsee: lemme try, brb04:23
Hobbseestewraz: killall kicker?04:23
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JucatoHobbsee: nah, he's trying to make KBlogger run04:24
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stewraznope i got it to run04:24
Jucato:-D04:24
Hobbseeah okay04:24
stewrazand i dont like it so wanna remove it04:24
juanif my x config lets me use both my monitors (as 1 large 1) in both gnome and xfce, what do i need to set up to get it to work in kde04:24
Hobbseeangasule: still a problem?04:24
stewrazlol04:25
stewrazthanks04:25
Hobbseestewraz: right click, remove applet, select the one you dont want?04:25
angasuleHobbsee: yeap04:25
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stewrazyeah but i wanna remove it from the sys all together04:25
Hobbseeangasule: interesting.04:25
stewrazi tried killall04:25
Hobbsee!info kblogger04:25
ubotuPackage kblogger does not exist in any distro I know04:25
Hobbseestewraz: how did you install it?04:25
stewrazand then apt-get removeand it still said it was running04:25
stewrazterminal04:26
stewrazapt-get install04:26
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stewrazahh shit04:26
stewrazmy bad04:26
Jucatostewraz: to remove kblogger from the panel, right-click on the panel and choose Remove from Panel > Applet > KBlogger04:26
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stewrazgot it thanks04:28
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srdjanthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upower mentions Upower, Splashy and uSplash. Which are we supposed to be using for bootsplashes??04:31
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JucatoUSplash is the Ubuntu bootsplash04:32
JucatoSplashy doesn't work, and I don't know what Upower is :-D04:32
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Hobbseeusplash, i think04:32
skavenge well, i dont have it on my kde box but ive got splashy running on my gnome desktop machine04:33
srdjantI'm just trying to figure out what I have to do to install new bootsplash themes and where to get them.04:33
Hawkwind!usplash04:33
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto04:33
stewrazsay i wanna list the appls listed in www.kde-apps.com04:33
srdjantthanks Hawkwind04:33
stewrazcan i add is in adept04:33
Jucatohehehe.. installing a new USplash theme is easy... making one that works isn't...04:33
stewrazkde-apps.org04:33
srdjantso are usplash themes different from bootsplash themes?04:34
HawkwindYes04:35
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Hawkwind!bootsplash04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
Jucatoehehe04:35
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JucatoUSplash themes are bootsplash themes for USplash only. the ones on KDE-Look are for Splashy, AFAIK04:35
srdjantso are they compatible with http://www.kde-look.org/?xcontentmode=6104:36
srdjantahh :(04:36
neutrinomassI'm trying to compile a Qt app and I get this: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.  What am I missing ?04:36
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neutrinomassI got libqt3-dev installed ...04:36
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Jucatoneutrinomass: did you do ./configure first? or if the installation instructions require something similar?04:37
Hawkwindneutrinomass: What is it you are trying to compile ?04:37
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JucatoHawkwind: I haven't read the link you gave yet, btw. I needed to catch up on much needed sleep earlier :-D04:38
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skavengesrdjant: there are usplash themes in there as well, you just need to look at the description of the splash screen most are labeled whether they are for splashy or not, the ones not labeled should work with usplash04:38
juan!twinview04:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:38
neutrinomassJucato, Hawkwind: It doesn't use autotools. It's this : http://aurox.org/adsl-manager/04:38
juanhow do i get kbuntu to work with both my monitors04:39
Dr_Willisjuan,  depends on your video card.04:39
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juannvidia geforce summit summit04:39
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stewrazwhat will i need to install to get up and going with some java programming04:39
Dr_Willishttp://gentoo-wiki.com/Twinview_Example        is what i followed04:40
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Hawkwindjuan: I can post my xorg.conf if you want.  I use twinview with Nvidia04:40
Dr_Willisjuan,  and yes - it took me some reading/twiddling and learning. backup your working x configs04:40
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Dr_WillisI used 2 monitors and a tv out. :P04:40
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juani have it working on xfce and gnome but when i login and use kde it doesnt work04:41
Xcaliburyo04:41
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Hawkwindjuan: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/7504:41
Dr_Willisjuan,  thats odd..... if the x config us set up right. it should work fine for them all.04:41
Xcaliburanyone know why when i g2 install LimeWire, it tells me I don't have the newest JRE, but when I type java -v it tells me I do, but limewire won't install?04:42
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HawkwindXcalibur: Give up on p2p apps.  They are poorly coded and nothing but a pain to deal with04:43
Xcaliburok?04:43
Xcaliburwell, you have any other ideas for media?04:43
juani no thats why im looking for help, i mean ill check my config again, but is there anything that could be overiding my settings for x04:43
XcaliburI can't watch any of my favorite videos on break.com, I only can hear the sound?04:44
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Ayabarahas anyone here got amarok working with aac in kubuntu? I can't add aac files to my collection, but I can play them04:44
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XcaliburI can't play .wmv's, I enabled the Xine crap, but there is no w32codecs in adpet04:45
Xcaliburadept*04:45
Xcalibur!wmv04:45
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skavengeXcalibur: its not in adept, the link for it is on that restricted formats page04:46
Xcaliburok?04:46
skavengethey cant keep it in the repos for legal purposes04:46
jarlath_Does anyone know how to get pressure sensitivity working for a Wacom graphics tablet? I've installed the driver and the module. The only thing I can think that might need tuning is my xorg.conf but I've followed advice I found by googling and things arent any better.04:46
Healot!noob04:47
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.04:47
Dr_Willis'friends dont let friends use wmv's "04:47
Dr_Willis:P04:47
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NDPowerBookWow04:47
Dr_WillisXcalibur,  your limewire issue is most likely due to your system using the wrong default java.04:47
NDPowerBookThis channel doesn't cease to impress me.04:47
Jucatolol04:48
Dr_Willis!java04:48
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:48
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Dr_Willisdo a java --version and see which java you are defaulting to.04:48
NDPowerBookWhats JFGI stand for anyway?04:48
Dr_WillisNDPowerBook,  i got no clue there. :P04:48
Xcaliburjava version "1.4.2"04:49
Dr_WillisXcalibur,  and the next lines of the version reply say?04:49
Xcaliburh/o04:49
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Xcaliburgij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)04:49
Dr_Willisjava version "1.5.0_06"    Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)04:50
Dr_WillisXcalibur,  thus you are using the GIJ  Java and NOT the sun java.04:50
Dr_Willisbu default04:50
h3sp4wn!info gij04:50
ubotugij: The GNU Java bytecode interpreter. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.0-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB04:50
Dr_Willisif you have not installed the SUN java packages -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java04:51
Dr_Willisif you have installed it - then you most likely need to update your alternatives (also dicsussed on tha page)04:51
kbrooksi need a ubuntu user here...04:51
Dr_Willis sudo update-alternatives --config java04:51
kbrooksTO ubuntu users: Do you know howt o open up the remote desktop  dialog?04:51
Dr_Willislets you pick what java to use as default.04:51
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Dr_Williskbrooks,  which one? i think ya just run that krdc or similer program04:52
Dr_Willislet me check04:52
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mortusshello04:52
kbrooksubuntu, not kubuntu, Dr_Willis04:52
mortussa need some help04:52
kbrooksyou misread04:52
Dr_Williskbrooks,  dare i ask why you are asking this in #Kubuntu then? :P04:52
Dr_Willislol04:52
h3sp4wnrdesktop server:port (port is usually 3389)04:52
Dr_WillisI dont even use gnome - it drives me crazy04:53
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mortussI have problem with sound04:53
Xcaliburi typed in konsole, sudo apt-get install w32codecs04:53
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Xcaliburit didn't install them, it said "it's available from another source'04:54
mortussmp3 is playint but a I dont hear a music04:54
Xcaliburwhat line do I add to the repositories or something04:55
Dr_Willis!w32codecs04:55
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Dr_Willisi always get the latest from the mplayer homepage myself.04:55
Jucatomortuss: you need to install "libxine-extracodecs" from the multiverse repositories04:55
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XcaliburI'm at that page04:56
Xcaliburbut no help from it?04:56
mortusshow do I do it ?04:56
auctmoreHello. Does anyone use QIDE at http://qide.free.fr/ ? Is there a kubuntu package. Not found in main and universe.04:56
Dr_WillisXcalibur,  not noticeinmg the line that says...   --->  wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.or  .................. to download the .deb eh?04:56
Dr_Willisor is that url not working.04:56
mortussJucato? please04:57
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Jucatomortuss: you need to enable the multiverse repository by following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:58
KomiaPoikahow to make kubuntu stop failing all the apt-get update when it fails just to get one archive ? i have to start it all over again04:58
Jucatomortuss: after you have done that, you can find and install libxine-extracodecs04:58
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Ayabaraanyone? do I need to do some hacks in kubuntu for amarok to add aac files to it's collection?05:00
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etamhi05:03
etamwhy i dont have aclocal?05:04
etamhow can i get it? while "make" it sais: missing --run aclocal-1.705:04
mortussjucato I have installed it05:04
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Dr_Willisetam,  you may have too new an aclocal05:04
Jucatomortuss: now try playing your mp3's05:04
Dr_Willisetam,  thats part of the autopackage tools last i looked aclocal was 1.905:04
mortussplayer is ok05:04
etamDr_Willis: i dons realy understand :|05:05
mortusstrack palying the mp3 song05:05
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willnapierhi everyone. Having problems mounting my usb key. /var/log/messages shows that my system knows it is there, but it is recognised as sdb, whereas in fstab the proc is /dev/sda1 and the mount point is /media/usb_key05:05
Dr_Willisetam,  fire up synaptic and isntall the older automake packages05:05
Jucatomortuss: so everything's ok now?05:05
etamDr_Willis: too new an aclocal? (i am not good at english)05:05
Dr_Willisit want version 1.7 you most likely have version 1.905:05
mortussbut I dont hear enything noise05:05
etamDr_Willis: ok, thank You05:05
mortusswhen the Kubuntu is staring05:06
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mortussstarting I also dont hear anything05:06
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auctmoreHello. Is QIDE from http://qide.free.fr/ in the multiverse repository ?05:08
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Dr_Willis!info qide05:08
ubotuPackage qide does not exist in any distro I know05:08
willnapieralso, it tells me to specify the filesystem type. in fstab it is 'auto' - should I put this, or something more specific?05:08
Dr_Willisaparently not auctmore05:08
Jucatoauctmore: I don't think so...05:08
Dr_Williswillnapier, put in the filesystem type it needs.05:09
mortussjucato ?05:09
Dr_Willislike its saying. :P05:09
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Jucatomortuss: is your volume up? (also check for speaker connections and power)05:09
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willnapierDr_Willis: so the syntax would be 'sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/usb_key?05:10
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mortussI have laptop05:10
Dr_Willis-t FILESYSTEMTYPETOUSE05:10
mortussso the noise has it05:10
Dr_Willisdont use 'auto' :) it cant figure it out - is what its saying.. so tell it the filesystem tipe05:10
mortusshas to it05:10
Dr_Willismost likely -t vfat05:10
mortussmaybe drivers ?05:10
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auctmoreThanks folks. Would it be safe to install QIDE by compiling it from source ?05:11
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Jucatomortuss: oh.... hm... is volume in KDE is up? (check the speaker icon in your system tray)05:11
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Dr_Willisauctmore,  ya could alwoas  use the sorce and install it just for a single user in their home dir - safest..05:11
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Dr_Willisauctmore,  i doubt if installing it from source will break anuthing05:11
willnapierDr_Willis: ok, it tells me that media/usb_key does not exist - despite it being listed as such in fstab05:11
Dr_Williswillnapier,  did you MAKE the /medis/usb_key directory first?05:12
JucatoDr_Willis: by default do compiled apps get installed into /usr/local/ ?05:12
Dr_WillisJucato,  if dont right - they should.05:12
Dr_Willisif done right.. :P05:12
Jucatoah05:12
Xcaliburyo guys, thanx for all your help with the win32 codecs, now i can stream my favorite vids!!!05:12
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willnapierDr_Willis: no - so why is it in fstab? And how do I do that?05:12
auctmoreDr_Willis: Thanks. I'll give it a try.05:12
Dr_Willisthats what some .configure -- option is for,05:12
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JohnFlux--prefix05:13
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Dr_Williswillnapier,  make the directory .. mkdir whatever05:13
willnapierok thanks will try that05:13
Dr_Willislogical eh? :P05:13
willnapier:D05:13
mortussKmix is ok everything looks ok05:13
Dr_Williseveryone stares at the mount errors and just seems to blank out. :P05:13
willnapierin which directory do I make it? in /media?05:13
Jucatomortuss: it might be a driver problem...05:13
Dr_Willis - /media/whatever does not exist.. so yes.. its in  /media/05:14
mortussthe movies are also without sound05:14
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JucatoDr_Willis: mounting and fstab isn't exactly the easiest and most comfortable thing to do :-D05:14
JohnFluxwillnapier:   mkdir /media/usb_key05:14
mortussI have the Asus A6R05:14
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Jucatomortuss: unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge about sound and drivers.05:15
mortussand it have the AC97 soundcard05:15
Dr_Willishttp://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume   - it pays to bookmark and read that site and learn all about it :P05:15
Dr_WillisJucato,  i find it rather straight forwared and handy :P05:15
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Xcaliburo by the way, when i'm watching vids with Konquerer, how can I set the default player to load as Xine?05:15
JohnFluxDr_Willis: i setup mounting ntfs fairly easily05:15
JucatoDr_Willis: considering your level of expertise, I am not surprised ehehe05:15
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Dr_WillisJohnFlux, yep. :P05:15
JohnFluxDr_Willis: all through the gui05:15
Xcalibur?05:15
Dr_WillisJohnFlux,  bah! thats for kids. :P05:15
JucatoXcalibur: in Konqueror, go to Settings > File Associations and change it from there05:16
JohnFluxDr_Willis: :-)05:16
Xcaliburok05:16
Xcaliburthanx05:16
JucatoXcalibur: you're watching vids with Konqueror? or with Kaffeine?05:16
Xcaliburkonqerer05:16
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Xcaliburon break.com05:16
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JucatoXcalibur: ah, an embedded viewer? yes, go to that settings, but go to the Embedded Viewer tab of File Associations05:17
mattikooHello. I like to install newest nvidia driver, but I don't know how I shut Down X.05:17
pipif I delete files from kget ,can I get it back ?05:18
Jucatomattikoo: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. be sure to save everything you need to save first.05:18
Dr_Willismattikoo,  i dident have to shut down X untill i was done. then ya can just hit alt-ctrl-backspace05:18
pipif I delete files from kget ,can I get it back ? Jucato05:18
Dr_Willisthat will Instantly Kill/close off X. which should then restart05:18
Jucatopip: if you delete files from kget before it finishes downloading, then the answer is no.05:18
mattikooHow I get X keeping down?05:19
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Jucatopip: but if you delete them from kget when it's finished downloading, the downloaded file won't get deleted05:19
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pipJucato, OK,think of this situation05:19
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mattikooJucato, Dr_Willis: I like to install NVidia run-package and I must do it when X is not running.05:20
Jucatomattikoo: ah.05:20
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Jucatomattikoo: press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and it will take you to a command line (you have to login there, too). then type "sudo /etc/init,d/kdm stop"05:21
mattikooJucato: I try will it help with crashing05:21
Healotsudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop (ifyou're on kubuntu with default desktop setup)05:21
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mattikoook05:21
Jucatomattikoo: sorry, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"05:21
mattikoothanks :)05:22
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Jucatomattikoo: to start X again, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"05:22
Dr_Willismattikoo,  i just use the repos/!nvidia url. ive never messed with the nvidia run package. I do recall a wiki page that told how to do it..05:22
Dr_Willisive just never seen the need to use it.05:22
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mattikoothank you :)05:23
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kbrooks!nvidia05:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:24
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pipJucato, I have downloaded a file with kget,then I throwed it into Trash ,then I download it again and the place where to store the file is not changed ,then I put the file from the Trash to the folder to the place where I store the file when downloading ,as you see , it will certainly overwrite the same file which is being downloading (they are the same files in fact as I said),and then kget is still working(downing the file )then I delete the file with kget wh05:25
pipen the second mission is not finished,answer my question ---can I get my lost file back ?05:25
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KCmooreKatapult is so awesome!05:25
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Healotslingshot's better05:25
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JucatoHealot: what's that?05:25
KCmoore:( XFCE is the only thing that can play shitty .wmv05:25
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Jucatopip: hm... I'm not certain... but I think the answer would be... no.05:26
pipJucato, you are rihgt05:26
pip*right05:26
KCmooreHey05:26
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KCmooreHow do you install themes?!05:26
KCmooreI'm going crazy05:26
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KCmooreIts so hard.05:26
HawkwindKCmoore: What kind of themes ?05:26
JucatoKCmoore: what kind of theme?05:26
mortenskytKCmoore: hm, lemme see, did it once05:26
Jucatolol05:27
mortenskytyou just talk about KDE-themes, no?05:27
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KCmooreLike window themes05:27
mortusskto mwi po polsku05:27
HawkwindKCmoore: kcontrol05:27
Jucatolemme see if ubotu still got it right...05:27
KCmooreI tried that05:27
Jucato!theme05:27
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy05:27
mortenskytyea, you do know kde-look.org, no?05:27
Healot!pl05:27
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl05:27
Hawkwindmortuss: English only please05:27
Jucatonope not that...05:27
KCmooreever time I try to install a theme it won't work05:27
mortenskythm.....05:27
KCmooreIt doesn't recognise the files.05:27
JucatoKCmoore: there are different kinds of themes in KDE05:27
HawkwindKCmoore: You sure you downloaded the correct type of theme ?05:27
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Jucato./theme05:27
Kronozhi, is edgy eft knot 2 stable enough to be used yet?05:27
Jucato~theme05:28
HawkwindKronoz: Not as your main OS05:28
JucatoWhat are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=305:28
kbrooksKronoz, its alpha05:28
JucatoKronoz: nope.. still changing a lot05:28
HawkwindKronoz: Run it in vmware or do a seperate install of it05:28
mortenskytKronoz: Why would you want that?05:28
Kronozok05:28
JucatoKCmoore: this might help you get an idea: /theme05:28
mortenskytunless you're actually wanting to fix the bugs it has, it's much better to just wait till it becomes stable05:28
JucatoKCmoore: this might help you get an idea:What are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=305:28
Kronozmortenskyt,  becuase i don't really like kubuntu dapper but i'd like to try eft?05:28
KCmooreumm05:29
soulrider_Kronoz: i gto edgy installed in a virtual machine05:29
KCmooreI just was on kde look05:29
KCmooreThey come in a .tar.gz05:29
Healotwe call it "gzipped tarball" >> fancy05:29
JucatoKCmoore: read the link I gave, it gives instructions on some of the most common type of themes05:30
Kronozone more question, what qt version does eft use?05:30
KCmooreThanks05:30
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HawkwindKronoz: Probably 3.3.605:31
soonIf I want to switch from kubuntu to xubuntu .... what is the best / easiest way to do this?05:31
HawkwindKronoz: Because it uses KDE 3.5.405:31
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Hawkwindsoon: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop05:31
Hawkwindsoon: Then you can have both KDE and Xfce installed without any issues05:31
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KCmooresudo apt-get moo05:32
JucatoHawkwind: I'd recommend using aptitude instead in this situation...05:32
soonas easy as that eh?05:32
HawkwindJucato: Why so ?05:32
Hawkwindsoon: Just as easy as that05:32
Kronozbecause aptitiude can remove meta packages as well as add them :p05:32
JucatoSo that removal will be easier later05:32
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HawkwindHmmm, apt-get remove works pretty well here :)05:33
JucatoHawkwind: it will only remove the package "xubuntu-desktop", not everything else that was installed with it05:33
Kronozno, actually it does, it removes the meta package but not any of the packages installed as part of the meta packages05:33
Kronozdoesn'*05:33
Kronozt05:33
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HawkwindI guess you just need to know how to use apt-get for it to work then :)05:35
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JucatoHawkwind: probably. you must have used some less known voodoo --switch for that :-D05:35
Jucatobut the regular "apt-get install" won't work...05:35
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KCmooreWhy would you actually WANT to use xubuntu!?05:35
KCmooreIts horrible05:35
JucatoKCmoore: one word: "choice"05:36
heinkel_111it's lightweight...05:36
HawkwindKCmoore: Personal opinion05:36
KCmooreI guess.05:36
KCmooreIf your using a low end machine its good.05:36
Dr_WillisI want a Ubuntu with MatchBox.   MatchBubuntu!05:36
KCmooreRunning kde on a crappy computer isn't very good.05:36
Jucatofortunately, KDE can also become "lightweight" and fast. See PCLinuxOS' MiniMe and Junior05:36
KCmoorekde is so shiny05:37
KCmooreI love it.05:37
Jucatolol05:37
KCmooreI haven't really found any flaws yet.05:37
KCmooreapart from this stupid theme thing05:37
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larson9999that's a new topic: what's the best wm?05:37
KCmooreI'm stuck with the crystal window decoration theme.05:37
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Jucatook.. we're getting offtopic again... lol05:38
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Hawkwindlarson9999: There is no such thing as 'best'.  If there was, there would only be 'one'05:38
JucatoI like Plastik better than Crystal...05:38
Dr_Willis"There can be only one!" :)05:38
larson9999Hawkwind: sure there is.  best is the one i like :)05:38
Dr_WillisI like Pkastik also.05:38
JucatoOne DE to rule them all!05:38
Dr_WillisWe need a GEOS clone  DE!05:38
Dr_Willisand an OS-9 ONE!05:38
Jucatoand a <insert DE/OS here> DE05:38
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Dr_Willisin some ways OS-9 had some very neat features.05:38
larson9999other topics nobody ever talks about: best text editor, best OS, and best distro05:39
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Dr_Willis'cream' best editor.. :P but i cant get it isntalled..05:39
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Dr_Willisapt-get dont like it for somereason05:39
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Hawkwindlarson9999: No, best is the one *I* like :P05:39
Jucatolarson9999: those are topics everyone talks about...05:39
Jucatojust not here05:39
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KCmooreWhy does apt-get moo exist?05:39
Dr_WillisThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  cream: Depends:  gvim or  kvim but it is not installable05:40
Jucatofor fun?05:40
larson9999Dr_Willis: the best slogan: "Cream, it's the best editor you can't install."05:40
larson9999Jucato: yes, that's were the joke comes in.05:40
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Jucatoehehe05:40
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KCmooreGetting 3D graphics to work was so hard in mandriva05:40
KCmooreIt was a peice of cake with ubuntu05:40
larson9999KCmoore: which card?05:40
KCmooreI sure wish I'd swapped sooner05:40
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Dr_Willisso i try to install kvim.. and i get     libpango1.0-0  problems.05:41
larson9999KCmoore: nvidia is a breeze in mandriva.05:41
larson9999KCmoore: but it's easy in ubuntu, too.05:41
sc0tchQuestion: I just installed the Sun JRE 5.0 runtime thru synaptic, but when I run java -v it still reports 1.4.2 do i need to manually configure something?05:41
KCmooreI couldn't get it to work!05:41
Kronozyviz or something is the replacement kvim i think05:41
zorgluuuhey i got an idea!05:42
Dr_Willis!java05:42
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository05:42
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zorgluuuwhy not talk about kubunutu support?05:42
larson9999KCmoore: the NVidia site has step by step instructions that never failed me once in many years05:42
Dr_Willissc0tch,  check that url. and the 'update-alternative' section05:42
zorgluuugood idea no ? :)05:42
sc0tchThanks, checking it out right now.05:42
KCmooreWoah!05:42
Jucatozorgluuu: perfect idea :-D05:42
Dr_Willis sudo update-alternatives --config java05:42
KCmooreThats happened to me before though05:42
dismal_Can someone help me out.  I can't seem to get laptop-mode to run.  It's set to start on boot but it doesn't run.  I try to start or restart it and it doesn't do anything.05:42
leuxhey guys, i've got a prob: i have an external 250gb harddrive and want to format it with ext2/3 how can i do this?05:43
aquabluanyone used "ant" jvm?05:43
KCmooreMy friend had hardly any trouble with mandriva but it just kept stuffing up on me.05:43
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larson9999ff keeps locking me up.  well, ff and thunderbird.05:43
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inamhi everybody05:44
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inamim looking for help with my external usb hard disk05:44
leuxme too05:44
leuxhihi05:44
Dr_Willisleux,  repartition it with gparte/qtparted/fdisk/other tool... then format the new patitions.. then edit the fstab to mount them where you want05:44
Dr_Willisgparted can repartition and format. :P  if ya got it isntalled..05:45
leuxhow can i edit the fstab05:45
Kronoznano /etc/fstab05:45
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KCmooreOk05:46
KCmooreNew topic05:46
leuxokay, thanks, ill try to find out what to write in there05:46
inamIm not able to wirte into my external hard disk... it says read only media.05:46
KCmooreWhats the best fps for linux05:46
zorgluuuKCmoore: tremulous.net05:46
Dr_Willisrtcw:et :P05:46
Dr_Willistremulous makes me seasick05:47
Dr_Willis:)05:47
KCmooreYeah, I've played tremulous for ages05:47
KCmooreIt kinda gets old after a while05:47
Dr_WillisI play it for 3 min.. and gotta stop.05:47
Dr_Willisand then ya get on a team where NOONE knows whats going on.05:47
KCmooreand its crappy with only a handfull of people05:47
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KCmooreI love moving the reactor into stupid positions05:47
KCmooreand then everyone is like: OMG DECON REACTOR!!!!!!05:47
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KCmooreAnyone here played Sauerbraten?05:48
zorgluuuwelll ok then you should install window and play window game :)05:48
Dr_Willisi like how they yell at me when im the ONLY builder and i am trying tolearn the game. :P05:48
isidor!frostwire05:48
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire05:48
Dr_Willislike i am trying to see what the Other builder guys are doing! :)05:48
dismal_Can someone help me out.  I can't seem to get laptop-mode to run.  It's set to start on boot but it doesn't run.  I try to start or restart it and it doesn't do anything.  I'd also like to know how ot manually set my clock speed (the service that handles it automatically also refuses to start...05:48
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aquabludo u need java for frostwire?05:49
KCmooredismal_ apt-get moo might help05:49
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isidoraquablu:ya05:49
Dr_Willisyes aquablu05:49
Dr_Willisand you wan tthe official sun java05:49
aquabluim havin dramas on this laptop installing limewire come up with java error i have sun java 505:50
aquablujre 1.405:51
aquabluerror05:51
gouchiHi05:51
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Dr_Willisaquablu,  do a 'java -version' and see what one is your default.05:52
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juanmy problem is that when im login in my 2nd display is broken, when i start and use gnome or xfce it works but when i start kde its broken like when im login in, any idea what config i need to change05:52
aquabluk05:52
isidorhow do i update amarok i tried sudo apt-get update but it doesn't show the latest version05:53
isidor?05:53
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Healot!amarok05:53
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org05:53
aquabluroot@aquablu-laptop:/home/aquablu/LimeWire# java -version05:53
aquablujava version "1.4.2"05:53
aquablugij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)05:53
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aquabluyet limewire wont install05:54
Dr_Willisaquablu,  you are not using the sun java by default05:54
Dr_Willisthats the OTHER java :P05:54
Dr_Willis!java05:54
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository05:54
aquabluoh05:54
Dr_Willischeck the 'update-alternative' section of tha turl05:54
Dr_Willisand this is Rapidly becoming Faq #1 :P05:54
aquablucan i enable i to default05:54
Dr_Willisnot sure what the deal is.05:54
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Dr_Willisits trivial to change the defaults05:55
Dr_Willisive answered this same identical question like 5 times today05:55
Dr_Willis:)05:55
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aquablulol05:55
aquabluthnx 4 help05:55
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etamhi06:00
etamdo You know any good torrent client?06:00
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etamCONSOLE client06:00
Jucatoktorrent06:00
Jucatoaah06:00
Jucatosorry06:00
etamctorrent is to simple06:00
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Dr_Willisrtorrent is also useable06:01
KomiaPoikahow can i install package ncftp??06:01
Dr_Willisbut some trackers dont like those 206:01
etamDr_Willis: ok, ill try this06:01
etamDr_Willis: has it any ncurses gui?06:01
zorgluuuKomiaPoika: "sudo apt-get install ncftp" ?06:01
Dr_Willisetam,  all the console ones ive seen have a minimal curses gui06:01
KomiaPoikazorgluuu: it says no such package06:01
Dr_Willis!info ncftp06:02
ubotuncftp: A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.1.9-1 (dapper), package size 441 kB, installed size 1020 kB06:02
KomiaPoikazorgluuu: i can't even get acroread package!06:02
etamDr_Willis: what else did You see?06:02
Healot!universe06:02
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:02
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zorgluuuKomiaPoika: i diagnoze an issue in your sources.list :006:02
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Dr_Willisetam,  theres alwoas the official bittorrent client that has a console version06:02
zorgluuu!info ncftp06:02
ubotuncftp: A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.1.9-1 (dapper), package size 441 kB, installed size 1020 kB06:02
Dr_Willisetam,  check freshmeat for others06:02
KomiaPoikazorgluuu: what do i add to be able to reach the package?06:02
etamDr_Willis: i need one that can download many torrents at a time and i can see what is happening after another login06:02
zorgluuu!easysource06:03
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:03
etamDr_Willis: ok06:03
Dr_Willisetam,  i normally use rtorrent in a screen session06:03
zorgluuuKomiaPoika: may help you06:03
Dr_Willisactually i tend touse 'wine utorrent.exe' now a days :P06:03
Dr_Willisin a VNC session06:03
Dr_Willisok. lets test my Java  factoid06:03
isidorcan someone give me step by step way of adding a network between two linux computers?06:03
etam:)06:04
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Dr_WillisJava Issues? Check --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b   AND for the short fix --> http://pastebin.com/78278406:04
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Dr_Willisisidor,  define 'network' :P06:05
etamDr_Willis: has rtorrent any repository for kubuntu?06:05
Dr_Willis!info rtorrent06:05
uboturtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.2-1 (dapper), package size 152 kB, installed size 448 kB06:05
Dr_Willisetam,  best to build from source. for the newest06:05
Dr_Willisisidor,  plug the network cables into a hub/switch/router.. see if the box's can ping each others ip.. you got a network.06:05
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isidorDr_Willis: as in file sharing and printing between two kubuntu desktops06:05
etamDr_Willis: ok06:05
Dr_Willisisidor,   file sharing btweeen 2 LINUX box's or a windows/linux box?   SAMBA can be used for both cases.. NFS is good for linux to linux.06:06
isidortwo kubuntu desktops06:06
Dr_Willisor for just a few quick files transfering. thers the FISH:// protocal06:06
isidorNFS???06:06
dismal_Any laptop pros here?  My laptop wont stand by/suspend when I close the lid - it does nothing!06:07
Dr_Willisfish:// in a  konqueror window :P06:07
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willnapierDr_Willis: I've been reading stuff on mounting filesystems. I can't understand why fstab lists /dev/sda1 for /media/usb_key, but when I look in /dev, there is no /sda1. Why would this be?06:07
Dr_Willisfish://remotemachineiporname06:07
Healotfish in the water06:07
Dr_Williswillnapier,  it shows up when the device is inserted -  is it insierted now?06:08
nonicknameif i do two different grub setup's, ie commandline grub, then setup (hd0,0), does it overwrite the first one or append it to the first one?06:08
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Dr_Williswillnapier,  OR it may be some other sd#$ device06:08
nonicknameassuming i'm using two different partitions.06:08
KomiaPoikazorgluuu: what package list should i check to get acroread and ncftp available?06:09
zorgluuu!info ncftp06:10
ubotuncftp: A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.1.9-1 (dapper), package size 441 kB, installed size 1020 kB06:10
zorgluuu!info acroread06:10
ubotuacroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 22263 kB, installed size 53192 kB (Only available for i386)06:10
zorgluuuKomiaPoika: universe and multiverse :)06:10
guillehi?06:10
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nonicknamedf06:11
nonicknamewhoops06:11
willnapierit showed up as sdb on one command I followed.. but why would it be in fstab as /dev/sda1? Also I have used /dev/sda1 successfully in the past to mount the drive06:11
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willnapierthis is from fstab: /dev/sda1       /media/usb_key auto noauto,users,exec 0 006:13
guilleI'm having problems installing the vmware-player. After installing it it gives an error message, that probably some downloaded packages are corrupt06:13
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willnapierbut in /dev there is only an sdb and a sdb106:13
GameCatcan someone tell me how to change the nvidia kernel module? I can't change from nvidia-glx-legacy to nvidia-glx as X complains about the wrong kernel module06:14
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GameCatcan someone tell me how to change the nvidia kernel module? I can't change from nvidia-glx-legacy to nvidia-glx as X complains about the wrong kernel module06:15
Komi4zorgluuu: i have deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multivers in my list, but i still can't fetch ncftp!06:15
willnapierDr_Willis: ok it seems that rebooting is important. See you later!06:15
GameCatI'm guessing that's a no - thanks for listening anyway06:15
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zorgluuuKomi4: well add a e at then of multiverse and do 'sudo apt-get update'06:16
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Komi4the e is there, i just pasted bad06:16
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Komi4ok i didn't know i had to update first06:16
zorgluuuupdate = reread all the repository06:17
zorgluuuies06:17
Dr_Williswillnapier,  no its not. :P06:17
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Dr_Williswillnapier,  dependong on the usb devices they can often change the position/number06:17
Komi4ncftp installing - nervous breakdown aborted meep meep meep meep meep06:17
zorgluuucool :)06:17
Komi4:)06:18
isidorDr_Willis: how would i install NFS?06:18
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Dr_Willis!nfs06:18
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.06:18
Dr_Willisisidor,  its rather easy to setup. and good for  constant shares.06:18
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Dr_Willisisidor,  but it depends on how much data and what you are shareing as to what would be the best method06:19
isidorDr_Willis: ok... I want to share music and such06:19
isidorand a printer06:19
Dr_Willisisidor,  trivial. :P06:19
Dr_Willisprinter - will be using CUPS for linux to Linux.06:19
isidorok then i'll do printer later06:20
isidorI just want to share my music06:20
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Dr_Willisisidor,  book mark --> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2064   for later when you are trying to get cups working right06:21
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isidorcool thanks06:22
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nonicknamecrap..06:22
nonicknameanyone care to hear a goofy linux/windows installation?06:22
Dr_Willisisidor,  quick way would be to set up samba on both box's and    smb://amd64/willis   (where you use the remote machine/username)06:23
Healotnonickname, keep thy problem to thyself :)06:23
Dr_Willisisidor,  also for each user use 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' so you can access theor  home dirs.06:23
nonickname:p06:23
Dr_Willis:)06:23
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isidorDr_Willis: so should just do samba cause i still dont understand the HowTo on NFS06:24
insanekanenonickname: i would like to hear it06:25
Dr_Willisive allready explained how to do samba. :P lol its trival.06:25
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Dr_Willisor use FISH:// and that will be over 'ssh'06:25
Dr_Willisor use 'smb4k' and mount the samba shares.06:25
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insanekaneor use the "Public webserver" applet if you only want to share files06:25
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Dr_WillisProblem with Music files - is that the players will try to download THEN play the files..06:26
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Dr_Willissmb4k and nfs, and manual mountingof the samba shares will get around that.06:26
insanekaneDr_Willis: something else can be done ?06:26
Dr_Willisthis is Linux - thers always 12+ ways to do somthing.06:26
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Dr_WillisPersonally - i use smb4k,  for my samba share accessing needs.06:26
insanekaneno i mean, downloading the whole song and then playing it ... is there something else that can be done ?06:27
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Dr_Willisinsanekane,  thats how the players  and the other methods work06:27
soulrider_hey, what can i use to add transparency to all my windows and my kicker?06:27
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Dr_Willisthey are not directly mounting the shares. they are accessng them on the fly so to speak06:27
insanekaneDr_Willis: ie ? downloading a small part playing it, bufferring the following ?06:27
Dr_Willisinsanekane,  that would be streaming. :P06:28
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Dr_Willisthats anotehr possibility if he just wants tos share music.06:28
insanekaneDr_Willis: yes, so i understand ... i didn't know that that was possible with smb4k ... doesnt smb4k load the whole file (i.e., copy to a local cache) and then provide it to players ?06:28
Dr_Willissmb4k is just a front end that MOUNTS the shares with smbmnt.06:29
Dr_Willissame as if the mount was in the fstab file.06:29
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Dr_Willisits not doing anything special at all - just being a nice front end/mounting tool.06:29
insanekaneDr_Willis: you said "...is that the players will try to download THEN play the files..." ... and then "...the samba shares will get around that..." suggesting that samba doesnt copy the whole file to a local cache before providing it to the player ...06:30
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insanekaneDr_Willis: that, samba gets around downloading the whole son06:31
insanekaneDr_Willis: so i was a little confused about that06:31
Dr_Willisinsanekane,  the players are not mounting the shares.   they are using a samba client, not samba mount point. :P06:31
Komi4what files do i need copy to my laptop, to get only kmail config reproduced, but not general kde config??06:31
Dr_Willisive fought with samba for like 6+ years, Lol06:31
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Dr_Williswhat the user sees is  them accessing a file. and it downloading then playing. :P which confuses them06:32
Dr_Willislike one would see on a web site06:32
isidorDr_Willis:  smb://{what goes here... IP? or...}/{username of the machine want to connect to?}06:32
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Dr_Willisisidor,  the ip of the remote machine and the users username06:33
insanekaneKomi: probably ./.kde/share/config/kmail* and ./.kde/share/apps/kmail06:33
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Dr_Willislunch time for me.. bbl06:35
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isidorDr_Willis:  smb://{IP}/{the users username... my username.. or the username of my other machine}06:35
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jottisidor: smb://user@host/share - but i would recommend nfs for a *nix only environment06:37
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isidor*nix?06:38
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jottlinux/solaris/bsd what-o-ever ;)06:38
_rince_re06:38
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stewrazcan i get some help compiling java in the console, i wanna use javac, but i think i have to have j2sdk installed yes06:39
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isidorjott: i would do NFS because of so many recommendations(sp) bur i dont get the HowTo06:40
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auTONYmousis anybody else having problems mounting usb drives?06:40
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trollinatorno. you're the only one06:41
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auTONYmousthanks..nice to know I'm alone06:41
Jucatotrollinator: and you know this, how?06:41
trollinatorerrr....06:42
trollinatori just do.06:42
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JucatoauTONYmous: there might be some who have a similar problem. I do recall someone asking earlier. (COuldn't pay much attention though, I was busy)06:42
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stewrazso no java buffs here?06:43
auTONYmousfor reference - I'm on 3.5.4 under 2.15-26-k7 kernel06:43
JucatoauTONYmous: I think there's a problem with KDE 3.5.4 on Kubuntu and HAL, so that would probably explain your problem06:44
auTONYmousI can't say for sure, I believe that ever since I upgraded to 3.5.4, I lost ability to mount USB drives...one thumb drive VFAT, and one USB Hard disk NTFS/VFAT06:44
Jucatoor maybe not. just that there's a known issue...06:44
auTONYmousjucato: thanks...at least I know where to start looking for solutions.06:45
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isidorAn error occurred while loading smb://isidor2@192.168.2.102/share:06:47
isidorTimeout on server06:47
isidor 192.168.2.10206:47
MetaMorfoziSmen! Sikeres xgl eltavolitas rlz.06:47
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isidori meant to use just one line06:47
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isidor!nl06:48
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl06:48
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akrushello everyone :)06:50
akrusI have a problem install Kubuntu 6.06...06:50
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isidoryo ho matie wat the problem is06:51
akrusthe installer stops at step 5 with 'loading'06:51
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akruseverything is okay before (loading partition info, loading OS information, 100%)06:51
akrusand then nothing happens...06:52
Admiral_Chicagoakrus, did you check the disk?06:52
akrusCD?06:52
Admiral_Chicagoyea06:52
akrusit's ok06:52
akrusI have 6 CDs left :D06:52
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zorgluuuvery uncool06:52
Admiral_Chicagoi mean. did you run the command...06:52
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akrus6.04 or something like this (beta) works okay06:52
Admiral_Chicagohmm06:53
akrusoh wow xD06:53
zorgluuubefore i was able to play tremulous on kubuntu, i did update and the new 3d drivers is like twice slower06:53
akrusit loaded06:53
zorgluuui can no more play tremulous06:53
Admiral_Chicagoi fixed it!06:53
akrusit took around 40 minutes o_O06:53
zorgluuunever do update on a working os :) ever06:53
akrushooray! finally i'll switch from this @$#%^ windows :D06:53
drizlol06:53
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drizAwesome no more windows06:53
isidorYEHAWWWWWWWWW!06:54
akrusyeah06:54
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akrusactually I had some problems under Kubuntu last time so I had to switch back to Windows...06:54
Tm_TI have windows all over my KDE desktop ;(06:54
akrus1) 5.1 is not working :)06:54
akrus2) ATI & Cedega does not support Ragnarok Online properly =)06:54
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dismal_I'm trying to change file permission for a file.  What do I do?  I'm typing chmod all -rwx sleep (sleep is the file) and its not working06:55
kegieauTONYmous: still here? could you run 'ps -A | grep gnome-volume'? I had to start the gnome-volume-manager manually to get automount on usb06:55
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akruschmod 0777 ./somefile06:55
drizoh well you know sometimes dualboot is neccessary when one needs to play games06:55
akrusI do not play games, I have a game server :)06:55
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drizjust use like 4GB of space on your HDD so you can GAME!!06:55
akrusTux Racer is nice when i wanna play x)06:55
drizoh ok06:55
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zorgluuuany suggestion on how do i get back to a working state with my graphic card ? it is a intel 915gm06:56
zorgluuuand the broken update has been done yesterday06:56
zorgluuumy previous one was like 2month ago06:56
akruswhy does it load so long T_T06:56
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Admiral_Chicagozorgluuu, sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg06:57
dismal_Thanks akrus06:57
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Admiral_Chicago zorgluuu sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:58
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Xcaliburhow can I configure tor?06:59
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XcaliburI just installed tor, but is there and interface, or do I have to use Konsole to configure it?07:00
Xcalibur!tor07:00
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB07:00
zorgluuuAdmiral_Chicago: ok rebooting to know the amount of ram in my card07:00
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Admiral_Chicagozorgluuu, you don't need to do that07:01
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Admiral_Chicagoerr07:01
Admiral_Chicagoneverminh07:01
Jucato??07:01
akruslol loaded07:01
akrusI really need new HDD T_T07:01
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Jucato"free -m"07:02
Jucatoaah nvm too07:02
zorgluuuAdmiral_Chicago: trying the old kernel :) maybe it is the kernel module which is bugged :)07:02
Jucatolol07:02
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Admiral_Chicagozorgluuu, i'm gonig to lunch07:02
Jucatodoesn't KInfoCenter also give you an idea of how much memory the video card has?07:03
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sekcoucou07:04
soulrideryay! i got transparency working :P07:04
soulriderlooks sooooooo cool =)07:05
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Jucatosoulrider: using XGL?07:05
KomiaPoikasoulrider: congratz07:05
zorgluuumouaoauoua for sure, i wont break again my rule 'dont update a working os' soon :)07:05
zorgluuuold kernel got the same issue07:05
soulrideryes, i think so07:05
soulrideri just followed the instructions on ubuntuforums.org07:06
soulriderit looks soooooooo sweet now07:06
Jucatoer.... which instructions?07:06
Jucatocare to share :-D07:06
soulridersure, hang on07:06
soulriderkatapult looks like crap though :/07:07
Jucatoehehe07:07
Trollinatoryou look like crap...07:07
Jucato...07:07
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soulriderjucato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527&highlight=transparency+howto07:08
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Jucatosoulrider: thanks! I'll take a look at it07:08
soulriderit looks like crap with the transparency efects07:08
soulriderill take a screenshot of kataput and shot you07:09
Trollinatorhm, that's certainly true..07:09
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josh__who took my nick?07:09
soulriderwhat was hte shortcut to show desktop ?07:09
josh__i was Xcalibur07:09
JucatoCtrl+Alt+D07:09
josh__who took it?07:09
soulriderwere you registered?07:09
josh__no07:09
soulriderthanks07:09
josh__but somone took it07:09
soulrideri was trying ctrl + D07:09
Jucatojosh__: were you disconnected?07:09
josh__no07:09
soulriderwell, if you werent registered then youre screwed :P07:10
josh__it just said trying a different nick07:10
josh__lol07:10
Jucatoit's probably just a ghost...07:10
josh__ok,let me try to boot it07:10
josh__how I do that?07:10
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Jucatoyou can't, since it's not registered...07:10
josh__omg07:11
josh__can you boot it?07:11
Jucatonope...07:11
josh__plz jucato!07:11
josh__darn07:11
JucatoI can't. I'm not an op07:11
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josh__it was worth a try :-P07:11
josh__lol07:11
Jucato:-D07:11
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akruslol07:11
akrusnew window appeared "Progress"07:11
josh__i must have been disconnected07:11
josh__i did a whois07:11
akrusit's a real progress :D07:11
josh__it's my hostname07:11
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zorgluuumouaoua dpkg-reconfigure doesnt support ctrl-c or esc and doesnt propose anyway to go back to the previous option07:12
zorgluuui did close the kconsole07:12
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zorgluuuand now there is a pending lock :)07:12
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josh__darn!!107:12
stephan__hi07:13
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akrushey07:13
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akruswoot!07:19
akrusnew step ^__^07:19
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stewrazhey is there anyone here tht can help me with JAVA07:20
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grafti'm trying to get zeroconf support working but i dont seem to have any 'mdnsd' running - what do i do?07:21
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warpzonehey guys, quck question:07:23
zorgluuuq. i try to use "system setting" in the main menu to configure my graphic card. all the autodetection seems to work ok when i do it. i am in "administrator mode" but i cant save, all the 'apply' are greyed... how can i save the configuration ?07:23
warpzonei just switched to kubuntu from ubuntu... does it use a seperate sources.list? seems like some programs are still installing using gnome libraries07:23
JohnFluxIf I try to browse an samba share from a linux machine it just lets me without asking for a password07:24
graftkubuntu uses the same sources.list07:24
JohnFluxwhen I try from windows, it asks for a username and password07:24
JohnFluxand nothing seems to work07:24
JohnFluxany ideas why?07:24
graftwhere's the samba share?07:24
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JohnFluxgraft: on this machine07:24
JohnFluxgraft: a linux machine07:25
warpzonehmm I'll have to investigate, thanks though graft07:25
graftah... um do you want a password or not?07:25
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JohnFluxI don't want a password no07:26
zorgluuuq. when i do "system setting" in the main menu, then "display", i change the config, how can i save it ?07:26
auTONYmousI just discovered something...I need to downgrade my HAL package under kubuntu...07:26
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graftJohnFlux: wanna post your smb.conf?07:27
drizhey guys does gaim have the plugin to tell people what song you are listening to like Kopete07:28
driz?07:28
isidori use kopete i dont know07:28
drizwell anyone else?07:29
MetaMorfoziSthe worst place ever to ask it in kubuntu07:29
MetaMorfoziSthat is based on kde and not im support channel07:29
isidoryes07:29
MetaMorfoziStry it in #gaim07:29
MetaMorfoziSor #kde:DDD07:29
MetaMorfoziSor simply use kopete:D07:29
drizI do use kopete07:30
isidorwell then come on... leave GAim alone07:30
TrollinatorGaim sucks07:30
isidoryup07:30
Hazhmm07:30
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Hazwhich reminds me07:30
drizok then i'll stop asking07:30
Hazanyone know how to manually change the personal message for MSN?07:30
Haz(in kopete, obviously :P)07:31
isidor:-07:31
zorgluuuq. how to reconfigure the graphic card ?07:31
Trollinatorclick on the butterfly in the bottom of the window, then point on "Online" and click "new message"07:31
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Trollinatordpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:32
Trollinatorsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:32
zorgluuuwell this reconfigure all the x server with a buggy software :)07:32
zorgluuui did try :)07:32
Trollinatorwhat do you want to do anyway?07:32
zorgluuuthe stuff doesnt support to be interupted, doesnt support ctrl-c or esc07:33
akruscould someone tell me what does 'active' mean while selecting the partitions for linux installation?07:33
zorgluuui had a working 3d driver yesterday, i did update and now the 3d is like twice slower07:33
zorgluuui got a 915gm intel07:33
akrusshould I select the partition that will be used for installation?07:33
zorgluuui would like to get back my 3d card :)07:33
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zorgluuui tried 'system setting' in the menu then display, but it wont let me save07:34
leuxsorry, here me again, i had no success: how can i mount my 250gb external hd when its formatted ext207:34
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zorgluuui rebooted several time to see if it was another bug in the lock but it wont budge :) cant save the config and wont say why :)07:34
zorgluuuleux: mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt/balbalbla07:35
leuxokay, thats fine, ill try, thx07:35
zorgluuui was using kubuntu only to play tremulous and i can no more07:35
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zorgluuuTrollinator: any suggfestion on how to configure the gfraphic card07:36
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zorgluuuhmm maybe should i fully reinstall, maybe the bug is not yet on the cd ...07:36
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zorgluuuok so i will reinstall, anyway this install is unfixable now. and i had gnome installed too07:38
leuxzorgluuu::: okay, i did sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 and got mount point /media/sda1 does not exist.07:39
zorgluuuand 'ls -ld /media/sda' give you what ?07:39
zorgluuusda1 i meant :)07:39
akrusfinally07:40
akrusinstalling Kubuntu :D07:40
akrusI'm the happiest boy in Russia at the moment 8))07:40
warpzoneyeha I just installed kubuntu... kubuntu >>> ubuntu07:41
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leuxzorgluuu::: no such dir :(07:41
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akrusI just love KDE :) it's really cute now... ten times better than Windows... or even twenty :)07:41
zorgluuuleux: well create it then :) "mkdir /media/sda1"07:41
tsdgeosakrus: :-)07:42
warpzonearkus: I just love the konfigurability :-P but really it can do a ton07:42
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warpzonespeaking of configuring... how do you make keyboard shortcuts in KDE?07:43
akruslol I really love Linux... it's copying files... at the same moment I'm listening to online radio, surfing the net & talking with my ICQ contacts07:45
akrusKubuntu developers know that people really need :)07:45
leuxzorgluuu:: now i'm able to mount, but can't write files... whats wrong07:45
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everthello all , i'm having a little problem with grub07:45
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etamhi07:45
dismal_I've just plugged in my USB HD, it has two NTFS drives on it.  Before it would auto detect but now it wont.  How do I go about mounting the two drives?07:45
evertI have got 2 hard disks (hda with windows and hdb with kubuntu) and i did a fixmbr on hda so i f*cked up my grub07:46
everti'm now using a live cd07:46
evertbut how can i get my grub back on hda ?07:46
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akrusevert: try rescue mode07:46
akrusevert: it has an option to reinstall grub07:46
nnn0grub-install07:46
etamwhat can i do to run application and logoff that when i log in the application will still work an i will be able to bring it to front07:46
everthow can i try rescue mode without a boatloader to choice for rescue mode ?07:47
akrusCD?07:47
auTONYmoussolved my USB drives problem...the NTFS-3g debs break either HAL or pmount...not sure which, but I downgraded back to the standards and my drives work fine now07:47
evertI have the 'alternate' kubuntu cd ... I'm now using a gentoo live cd07:47
nnn0man grub-install ;)07:47
auTONYmous...just with NTFS read/write07:47
akrusGentoo </3 use console then as nnn0 recommends07:47
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dismal_I've just plugged in my USB HD, it has two NTFS drives on it.  Before it would auto detect but now it wont.  How do I go about mounting the two drives?07:48
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akrusdismal_: man mount?07:48
evertHow about this error ? grub> install /dev/hda107:48
evertError 12: Invalid device requested07:48
akrus:)07:48
akrus /dev/hda?07:48
evertmy first hard disk ?07:49
akrusI think it should be in MBR07:49
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everthow can i get it in MBR then ?07:49
akrusthen you do not need 1/2/3/etc...07:49
nnn0 /hda is mbr, /hda1 is the first partition07:49
akrus /dev/hda, /dev/sda07:49
evertsame error with /dev/hda in place of hda107:49
akrus(second if SCSI/SATA HDD)07:49
dan_how do i enable universe and multiverse07:49
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akrustry /dev/sda07:49
Dr_Willis!easysource07:50
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:50
everti don't have sata :)07:50
Dr_Willisdan_,  or use adepts repo managment tools07:50
MetaMorfoziSadept :/07:50
akrushm, check the HDD then, maybe it's missing :D07:50
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ROBOdhello guys07:51
evertIt's not mising07:51
ROBOdhow do i get access keys working in konqueror?07:51
etamcan anyone help me?07:51
akrustry lilo :)07:51
ROBOdpressing Ctrl these do not show-up07:51
nnn0:)07:51
dan_Dr_Willis: what is that im new to linux07:51
etamhow can i minimize my application in console?07:51
everti always used grub and it worked fine till now07:51
evertI just have to reinstall it07:51
akrusthen now it's time to try lilo ^^07:52
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evertwhy that ? When i'm happy with grub ?07:52
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ROBOdi have also tried Ctrl+Alt+key ... this doesn't work either07:52
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akrushow can you be happy when it's not installed?07:52
evertIt just worked good , i only screwed it up by doing a 'fixmbr' with the windows cd ;)07:52
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Dr_Willisdan_,  the package manager tool for kuuntu is adept07:52
Dr_Willis!adept07:52
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:52
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Xcaliburok07:52
MetaMorfoziSbut it's a crap, so use synaptic:D07:52
MetaMorfoziS!synaptic07:53
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto07:53
akrustry throwing Windows CD out the window, maybe grub detects it somewhere near PC and does not want to be removed again :D07:53
MetaMorfoziS:)07:53
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Xcaliburi'm installing alien, how can i change the aim for linux package.rpm to a .deb?07:53
akrusXcalibur: it's simple: alien source.rpm target.deb07:53
evertlol akrus .. I just wants to get my kubuntu booting back again ... I'm not in a good mood ... I lost all my data on my windows disk (170gb is gone :()07:53
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Dr_Willisheh07:53
nnn0:)07:54
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nnn0evert: did you try "grub-install /dev/hda07:54
akrusactually I cannot recommend you anything but installing lilo. You may install it just for now and replace it with grub later.07:54
Emanuelthi all07:54
MetaMorfoziSauTONYmous: and searching in descriptions07:54
akrusnnn0: he did07:54
nnn0k07:54
akrus:)07:54
MetaMorfoziSand starting up 100% of times...07:54
evertI did the grub install /dev/hda07:54
dan_Dr_Willis:im the adept manager now what do i do07:54
MetaMorfoziSand able to answer debvconf's questions07:54
auTONYmousand saving toolbar prefs07:54
Dr_Willis!adept07:55
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:55
akruswithout the dash?07:55
MetaMorfoziS!synaptic07:55
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto07:55
everthow can i install lilo then ?07:55
MetaMorfoziS:)07:55
Dr_Willisread the adepthowto and learn the fundamentals.07:55
akrusman lilo :D07:55
Emanueltcan some one help me to install the KWlan please ?  i got ann error msg07:55
everti just wants to get a booting system07:55
nnn0he could try to chroot into the sda1 maybe07:55
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akrus3 minutes left...07:56
drnoonehi all07:56
akrusdownloading language files take a lot of time with my sucky internet connection x_X07:56
evertargh , how can i quit a man page ?07:56
akrusq07:56
nnn0q07:56
Xcaliburok07:56
Dr_Willisits using the less pager. :P07:56
evertahh thx :)07:56
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akrus:)07:56
Dr_Willisman less07:56
Dr_Willis:)07:56
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akruslol07:57
evertwhy are man pages so difficult :O07:57
akrusinfo less07:57
akrus:D07:57
Dr_WillisI find them every easy07:57
drnoonelol07:57
Dr_Willisinfo man07:57
Dr_Willisman info07:57
Emanuelti got "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"   when i try to install KWlan07:57
Dr_Willisman woman07:57
drnooneman man07:57
akrusyou may use 'grep' for searching info07:57
MetaMorfoziSlol07:57
Dr_WillisEmanuelt,  install the qt developer packages07:57
everti was just hoping to install grub wich i know :) , not for reading the man page of **** lilo :P07:57
etamplease tell me how can i minimize console application that when i logback the application still works?07:57
akrusbtw what's the latest version of Cedega?07:58
Emanueltapt-get install qt  not work for me07:58
dan_what is kate?07:58
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Dr_Willisetam,  use screen on the console - its a handy tool07:58
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akrusEmanuelt: apt-cache search qt07:58
drnooneetam: app-name & doesn't works?07:58
akrusdan_: an application :)07:58
Emanuelt10x akrus07:58
Emanuelti will try07:58
Emanueltbrb07:58
etamdrnoone: how can i bring it back?07:59
etamdrnoone: this application that i &07:59
etamDr_Willis: is it an application?07:59
drnooneetam: there was a command fg I believe07:59
Dr_Willis!info screen07:59
ubotuscreen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 566 kB, installed size 976 kB07:59
Dr_Willisread a few bash tutorials/guides also on 'job controll'07:59
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nnn0evert: you could try to mount sda, chroot into it and then try grub-install again07:59
nnn0sda1 i mean08:00
nnn0the old kubuntu08:00
etamdrnoone: thanks08:00
akrusit's 22:00 in Moscow...08:00
etamDr_Willis: ok, i will08:00
akrusand I have to go to university tomorrow :(08:00
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drnooneanyone has problems with sound on .mov videos? (from my digital cammera). I'm using kaffeine (xine) and it sounds chopped08:01
evertnnn0 , i only have hda no sda08:01
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everti'll try to mount it (i'm not very good wit linux yet)08:01
akrusevert: that's the same08:01
nnn0evert: so kubuntu is in hda2 ?08:01
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evertindeed08:02
evertkubuntu is hdb , windows is hda08:02
everti have got 2 hard disks08:02
akrus...08:02
akrusfdisk /dev/hda08:02
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akrusand clean it08:02
akruswipe everything out08:02
akrus:D08:02
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akrushave you tried loading from hdb?08:03
akrussetting it default in BIOS08:03
nnn0evert: try to mount hdb1 then, chroot it, and run grub-install from there08:03
evertyes , but i got a grub error then when choicing for linux08:03
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akrusnow rebooting to Kubuntu :)08:04
akruscya~08:04
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everthow can i chroot ?08:04
akrus;d08:04
akrus:D08:04
akrusman chroot :D :D :D08:05
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nnn0if you have mounted it as /mnt/hdb1, just chroot /mnt/hdb108:05
evert*reading the ubuntu wiki's how to mount something*08:06
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nnn0first cd /mnt, then mkdir hdb1, and then mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb108:08
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evertI'm now chroot@livecd :)08:09
evertnow just doing the 'grub-install /dev/hda' ?08:09
nnn0eh08:09
nnn0maybe you have to mount that too08:09
nnn0so instead of using grub-install /dev/hda, you could do grub-install /mnt/hda08:10
nnn0maybe not08:10
nnn0!08:10
nnn0:)08:10
nnn0yeah try grub-install after you have chroot'ed08:10
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evertinstallation finished08:11
everti have got grub back again :)08:11
everthope it works08:11
everti installed it just on hda , not on mnt/hda08:11
Xcalibur:-P-:08:11
nnn0maybe you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst also08:11
nnn0try to boot first08:11
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evertok08:12
evertthx for the help :)08:12
nnn0np08:12
everti'm still a bit angry because i lost 170gb of data :(08:12
evertbut really thx :)08:12
nnn0i know the feeling :)08:12
evertit's not my fault :P08:12
nnn0have you tried to restore it ?08:12
everthow ?08:13
Admiral_Chicagoevert, i did that once08:13
evertThe NTFS partition is still there08:13
evertbut i even can't mount it08:13
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evertin another windows pc i also can't read it any more08:13
Admiral_Chicagothats why i switched to linux, because Windows messed up08:13
everthe is complaining about some 'ntldr missing'08:13
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evertI'm first rebooting to be in kubuntu :)08:13
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Dannilionthat error comes up about once a year for my partner08:14
evertreally ?08:14
Dannilionyup08:14
everthow to fix it ? I tried everything08:14
nnn0if it's just ntldr which is missing, the partition could be fine08:14
Dannilionreinstalling windows worked- for a few days08:14
evertyeah , but then i loose the data08:14
Dannilionyou tried reinstalling Windows over the top?08:14
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Dannilionwithout formatting?08:15
nnn0when you tried to mount it, did you specify the fylesystem: mount -t ntfs.....08:15
DannilionWill give you time to back up your data08:15
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evertHe couldn't do the reapair thing , he couldn't find the 'xp installation'08:15
everti'm first going to reboot , then i come back :)08:15
everti appreciete the help here :)08:15
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Dannilionnever mind :P08:16
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everthello i'm back :)08:19
evertmy grub worked ... Really thanks :)08:19
Danniliongreat :)08:19
nnn0cool08:19
nnn0:)08:19
dan_how do i install limewire08:20
nnn0now try to mount hda108:20
evertIf i could get some data from the other ntfs hard disk i would be in love with you :D ;)08:20
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nnn0try: cd /mnt, mkdir ntfs and then mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs08:21
evertI'll try it08:21
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Hexidigitalhow do i install the KDE headers? (for Qt 3)08:22
nnn0then you just: ls -al /mnt/ntfs too see if the files are there08:22
Dr_Willis!limewire08:22
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.08:22
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everti did it , but i get the error i always get ...08:23
evertevert@evert:/mnt$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs08:23
evertmount: slecht soort bestandssysteem, slechte optie, slecht superblok op /dev/hda1,08:23
evert       ontbrekende codepagina of andere fout08:23
evert       In sommige gevallen wordt er nuttige informatie gevonden in syslog08:23
evert- probeer dmesg | tail ofzo08:23
Dr_Willisdan_,  install and set up the officl sun java, for a start and check out frostwire08:23
evertit's in dutch i'm sorry08:23
everti can't get it in english08:23
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nnn0eh what does it say ?08:23
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evertbad kind of filesystem , bad option or08:24
nnn0k08:24
evertany solution for that ?08:24
Dr_WillisThe DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume08:24
nnn0hm i'm not sure08:24
Dr_WillisI say do some reading and follow their examples08:25
evertOk , i'll read it and see what i can do with the information08:25
evertbut it's not a 'normal' mounting08:25
nnn0maybe it really is something wrong and you have to use some forensic tool08:25
everti think so :(08:26
dan_limewire keeps opening up in photo and text and i tried frostwire and it opened in kate08:26
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nnn0kubuntu should support ntfs read at least out of the box08:26
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stewrazwhat is the best software for creating iso files08:26
evertin the past i was able to read ntfs without problems :)08:26
Dr_Willis       /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       108:26
Dr_Willisfrom my fstab08:26
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Emanueltakrus  i still get "error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found" when i try to configure the KWlan , and i install something like 300mb of qt-dev v.3 & v.4,  what did i miss ?08:27
everti had something like that in my fstab , but this is a new install .... (since yesterday , since my ntfs is broken)08:27
Dr_Willisqt-mt hmm08:27
Dr_Willis!info libqt3-mt08:28
ubotulibqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3078 kB, installed size 8728 kB08:28
nnn0bbl08:28
Emanuelti did install it all ready08:28
Dr_WillisEmanuelt,  thats my guess as to what you need ya sure ya got the -dev packages with it as well?08:28
Emanueltyes08:29
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Emanuelti get almost every pkg and start with qt3  and libqt08:29
Emanueltits like 300mb of files08:29
Admiral_Chicagostewraz, do you have.bin and .cue/08:30
h3sp4wndid you get kde-devel (if you did and its still not working it may be that its written for an old version of kde08:30
stewrazi dont have an iso yet, i need to make on08:30
stewrazone08:30
Emanuelti use  qt3* and libqt*08:30
evertI can't find something usefull in the link you gave me dr_Willis08:30
draikI'm trying to ssh into my laptop from my desktop via my network. My desktop gave me an error about WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! Any clues on fixing this?08:30
Admiral_Chicagostewraz, yes, i know that i'm saying what kind of files do you have08:30
Emanuelti also try to install the deb version of it   dpkg -i kwlan_0.5.3-1_i386.deb   with no help08:32
h3sp4wndraik: remove .ssh/known_hosts (or the relevent entry for that file) or install a suitable key into that file08:32
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stewrazadmiral- not sure what u r asking08:32
draikh3sp4wn, how do I install a key?08:32
stewrazthe disk is full of ainly .jpg08:32
stewrazmailny08:33
stewrazmainly; lol sorry08:33
Admiral_ChicagoEmanuelt, sudo dpkg -i <deb>08:33
Emanueltyes08:33
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Admiral_Chicagohmm, i dunno08:33
Emanuelt10x any way to all of you08:33
Admiral_Chicagoyou cane use k3b to write them but I don't think thats what you want to do08:34
h3sp4wndraik: I just normally just cat keyfile >> .ssh/known_hosts - but you probably just want to get rid of the offending key (just delete it from the file)08:34
Emanuelti'll try to find something08:34
stewrazi have downloaded a program called kiso. but cause im new to linux im not sure how to install it08:34
draikh3sp4wn, just     sudo rm /root/.ssh/known_hosts             ?08:34
Dr_Willisevert,  on what link? i frogot the question. :P08:35
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Admiral_Chicagostewraz, on your desktop?08:35
h3sp4wndraik: why are you logged in as root ? and ssh'ing as root ?08:35
stewrazye08:35
stewrazyep08:35
Dr_Willisevert,  check dmesg output. see if any issues are showing up there.08:35
Admiral_Chicagostewraz, whats the extension08:36
evertThe link about mounting a NTFS partition08:36
draikI tried to go through konqueror, but I didn't have rights to the file so I had to 'kdesu konqueror', so I thought I have to sudo anything in there08:36
Admiral_Chicagowhat does it end it08:36
draikI haven't though08:36
stewrazadmiral- tar.gz08:36
draiknot ssh'ing as root either08:36
Admiral_Chicagostewraz, right click -- extract here08:37
Dr_Willisor learn to use the shell. :P08:37
stewrazyep i did that08:37
stewrazi have the dir on the desktop08:37
everthow can i use the dmesg output ?08:37
Dr_Willis'dmesg' command08:37
Dr_Willissee if it sputs out an error while mounting that ntfs08:37
Admiral_Chicagonow do you have a bunch of files called like "install" "config" and what not08:37
evertok08:37
draikh3sp4wn, I deleted the key and I'm able to connect... but it doesn't accept the password set for my laptop's user08:38
stewrazadmiral- yep08:38
evert[4295001.845000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Primary boot sector is invalid.08:38
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evert[4295001.845000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Mount option errors=recover not used. Aborting without trying to recover.08:38
evert[4295001.845000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): ntfs_fill_super(): Not an NTFS volume.08:38
h3sp4wndraik: try resetting the password08:38
draikh3sp4wn, I just checked something... turns out that IPs on desk/laptop were switched08:39
evertSo , what do i know now ?08:39
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draikI got it now08:39
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draikThanks for your help h3sp4wn08:39
Admiral_Chicagostewraz, open up a terminal08:40
h3sp4wndraik: That would explain it - ssh host keys are tied to ipaddress08:40
phreakyshey08:40
draikyup08:40
phreakysanyone knows a good gui ftp server?08:40
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draikand since the power cycle 2 days ago, I forgot to check them08:40
Dr_Willisevert,  you sure hda1 is the right drive?08:40
evertyes i'm sure08:41
stewrazadmiral- yep im three now08:41
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Dr_Willislooks like it may be trashed. :(08:41
everti checked it out with fdisk -l08:41
Dr_Willisevert,  try 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'08:41
Admiral_Chicagostewraz, type cd /home/user/Desktop/file08:41
Dr_Willisok :P if you DOUBLE and Tripple chedked. :P08:41
Admiral_Chicagoreplace user and file with your username08:41
Admiral_Chicagoand the file name08:41
evertSchijf /dev/hda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes08:41
evertthe hda is the ntfs hard disk08:41
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draikh3sp4wn, is there a way for me to get a file from my laptop via ssh?08:42
nlindbladhow do I switch to another X display from within KDE?08:42
Admiral_Chicagowow, we have over 300 users08:42
stewrazadmiral- yep i got it instaled, thanks for your patients08:42
Admiral_Chicagostewraz, cool08:42
Dr_Willisnlindblad,  you mean one running on aonther tty? or how to create another on a different tty?08:42
h3sp4wndraik: scp --help or man scp (simple example scp filename user@host:~)08:42
deingood morning08:42
nlindbladDr_Willis: switch ot it08:43
nlindblad*to08:43
draikthanks, I just don't know what I would be looking for... thanks for pointing me in the right direction08:43
Dr_Willisnlindblad,  alt-ctrl-F7, F8 and on up.08:43
nlindbladthanks :P08:43
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complexityHow do i restore default alsamixer settings08:44
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Dr_Willisnlindblad,  vnc is handy to have extra X sessions running/testing stuff out in as well.08:44
stewrazadmiral- i now have a program that is in a kmdr file08:45
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Admiral_Chicagostewraz, check the repos for programs08:46
Admiral_Chicagoopen up adept, there are a ton of packages in there08:46
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stewrazis there a way i can make an iso from a DVD using the console08:50
kaarlostewraz, use dd?08:51
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Dr_Williswhat kind of dvd?08:52
kaarlostewraz, are you talking about movie or data DVD?08:52
stewrazdata dvd08:52
azazel_#kubuntu-fr08:52
EmanueltThank you every one, need to go.08:52
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kaarlostewraz, dd if=pathtoDVD of=output.iso08:53
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ubuntu__hello people08:53
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stewrazwhat is the usual path to a dvd08:54
kaarlostewraz, if you use dd dont mount the device; just use if=/dev/dvd for instance08:54
ubuntu__hi people08:54
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ubuntu__ any one know a site where i can get linux send on cd free to me?08:55
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zorgluuu!shipit08:59
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org08:59
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zorgluuuRay_Ray: this was for you :)09:00
Ray_Raythanks09:00
Ray_Rayyeah i done that09:00
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etuncerburada turk var mi?09:01
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Ray_Rayhow do i protect my nice name09:03
Ray_Rayvia password09:03
Ray_Rayusing msg09:03
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Dr_Willisyou mean your nick on this server?09:03
Dr_Willis - /msg nickserv help09:03
Ray_Rayyeah please09:03
Ray_Raythanks its been a long time i can not rember commands09:03
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jviveshey all!09:05
Eeyore_Jr /msg nickserv register password09:05
gedis ubuntuforums having some trouble lately or is it just my crappy ISP?09:05
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jvivesit's having problems09:07
jvivesI'm at Chile, so probably not sharing ISP09:07
jvivesand I'm also having trouble getting to uf.org09:08
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gedheh09:08
roguys i need some help : cant install java on kubuntu : dependancies problem09:08
Ray_Ray!java09:09
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:09
jvivesI nedd help with the famous "mesa issue" (ati card, fglrxinfo showing mesa instead of ati)... any one familiar with it?09:09
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h3sp4wnjvives: Are you using drivers from ati.com09:10
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h3sp4wnjvives: If you are using the ones from the repositories - make sure you have 'restricted' after main for dapper-security in /etc/apt/sources.list09:11
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silvertoHi everyone, I am new to linux and I can't get kubuntu to see my opengl video card. Can someone help?09:12
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zorgluuutell me about it :)09:13
ErtainHello everyone.  Does anyone know of a good GIF animation program?  Or perhaps know of a process for changing MPEG to GIF?09:13
silvertoyou have problems too?09:13
zorgluuui mean i got issue with my card too :)09:13
jvivesh3sp4wn: nope, got them using apt xorg-driver-fglrx09:13
silvertoWhenever I install the pakage in adept xwindows becomes black screen I can't see anything09:14
scroll_lockzorgluuu is n=fred@94.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net ()09:14
scroll_lock[20:13]  [Whois]  zorgluuu is a user on channels: #Azureus-Hackers #kde-devel #kde4-devel #kubuntu #kubuntu-offtopic09:14
scroll_lock[20:13]  [Whois]  zorgluuu is online via irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.net/).09:14
scroll_lock[20:13]  [Whois]  End of WHOIS list.09:14
zorgluuuand this is between me and my tremulous which is so good at destressing me09:14
jvivesI've been reading a lot, so I also did the apt-remove restricted-modules blah blah09:14
zorgluuuscroll_lock: ?09:14
heinkel_111anyone seen a guide on how to configure x-forwarding from a host to client on local network?09:15
zorgluuu!nx09:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:15
SpAwNhello all i seem to be having a problem...this is the 2nd or 3rd time ive woke up to a computer that is locked up.....nothing responds...not the keyboard nor the mouse do anything.....so i have to do a hard reboot......now im thinking ndiswrapper has a role in this ill put in pastebin part of my syslog and well.....last thing b4 i reboot is somthing about ndiswrapper09:15
scroll_lockcan u really hack KDE?09:15
h3sp4wnjvives: make sure you have the matching restricted modules to your running kernel (will be from dapper-security restricted which is probably not in your sources.list)09:15
zorgluuuheinkel_111: nx is use for that09:15
zorgluuuscroll_lock: no i dont code on kde09:15
SpAwNhere is the pastebin...notice the time be i restart almost 4 hours http://pastebin.ulteo.us/7609:15
scroll_lockgood09:15
zorgluuuheinkel_111: usefull09:15
zorgluuuscroll_lock: ???09:15
heinkel_111nx is the command so i can do man:nx search?09:16
jvivesh3sp4wn: yep, got them restricted09:16
heinkel_111zorgluuu:09:16
heinkel_111 ^09:16
zorgluuuheinkel_111: it is a whole stuff i think there are tutorial about this09:16
zorgluuu!vnc09:16
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.09:16
h3sp4wnheinkel_111:09:16
zorgluuu!freenx09:16
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX09:16
heinkel_111i have googled09:16
zorgluuuthere :)09:16
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heinkel_111not remote desktop... remote windows on my local desktop09:17
h3sp4wnheinkel_111: All you need to do is ForwardX11 yes in /etc/ssh/ssh_config09:17
SpAwNeerr i take that back....almost 5 hours went by09:17
larson9999freenx is quite a bit faster09:17
jvivesh3sp4wn: how can I check that?09:17
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h3sp4wnjvives: grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep dapper-security09:19
jvivesdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted09:19
jvivesI did a "manual" grep ;)09:20
jviveswant me to run that command anyway?09:20
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h3sp4wnjvives: no point09:20
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h3sp4wnjvives: in lsmod is fglrx listed ?09:22
jvivesyep, let me double check09:22
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jvivesfglrx                 391756  009:23
jvivesagpgart                36784  2 fglrx,ati_agp09:23
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heinkel_111h3sp4wn: is the syntax for that /etc/ssh/ssh_config file standard, ie..comments all start with # sign?09:23
heinkel_111almost all the lines appears to be # commented out...09:23
h3sp4wnheinkel_111: Yes (the comments are just telling you what the defaults are09:23
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evertHello all09:24
heinkel_111thanks h3sp4wn, you have been very helpful :)09:24
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h3sp4wnjvives: dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx (it should be diverting loads of stuff)09:24
HaTcHQuestion (former Gentoo user, giving Kubuntu a try) Umm... when I try to boot up the Desktop CD (AMD64) I get a Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! error message09:25
evertI was wondering if somebody knows a thing i need to know. In a previous install i had to add a option in my xorg.conf file. It had something to do with agp , but i forgot it09:25
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evertwho knows the option ? Without it i wasn't able to load x any more09:25
HaTcHapggart?09:25
evertno , another one09:25
HaTcHagpgart09:25
JohnFluxagpgart09:25
evertno i was tought it was 'noagp 0' or something like that09:25
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evertbut i don't know it any more :(09:25
Admiral_Chicagoevert, you might want to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:25
evertThat didn't work in my previous install , it only worked with that specific option included09:26
ChapayHello form russia!!!09:26
Chapaywhere i can get adept sources ???09:26
h3sp4wnevert: Well we are both in the same boat then (my video card has been trashed so whenever I load a graphical application it hardlocks) - I am also without X but it doesn't make that much difference09:27
evertIt was just a simple option , i had written it on a small piece of paper , so i wouldn't forget it :P09:27
evertbut now , when i'm going to install the nvidia drivers i forgot :(09:27
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jvivesh3sp4wn: hate flooding... http://www.copypot.com/59209:28
deinnvidia-xconfig?09:28
deinevert?09:28
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evertNo , i had to add it manually to my xorg.conf in the nvidia part09:29
h3sp4wnjvives: So at the moment do you or do you not have restricted-modules installed ?09:29
Chapayoh sorry i find him @ kde-apps.org09:29
dismal_I'm trying to mount a file.  It's an MDF and I've run mdf2iso and it says its already iso (though it doesnt create a new file or anything)  How do I mount this now?  I have mount-iso installed but there is no menu when i right click on the mdf09:29
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someusernoobim running irssi in Konsole, and when coloured text is shwoing, it is blinking, this isnt happening under gnome with the gnome terminal, how do i turn it off?09:29
h3sp4wnjvives: If you don't have the restricted modules installed you can install the fglrx kernel source and build the module with sudo module-assistant prepare,update && sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx09:30
Chapaywho use kde4 (3.80) ???09:30
jvivesh3sp4wn: I 'think' i do have restricted modules... I'm new to kubuntu, but not to linux/debian09:30
jvivesh3sp4wn: how do I check that... if i do or don't have em09:31
heinkel_111h3sp4wn: are you there? what else do i need to do to fet an application running on a remote machine to display in my desktop?09:31
evertNobody who knows the option i need ? It had something to do with agp ...09:31
heinkel_111ie...09:31
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HaTcHagpgart was the only thing I can think of09:31
deinagpgart?09:32
evertIt was another one09:32
HaTcHfor ATI cards atleast09:32
HaTcHits in the kernel09:32
evertAnd it's for a nvidia card09:32
heinkel_111kate randomtestfiletobedeleted.txt09:32
heinkel_111kate: cannot connect to X server09:32
heinkel_111^ it goes like that....09:32
evertfound it :)09:32
evertoption nvAgp09:32
jvivesheinkel_111: did u try doing ssh -X server?09:33
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heinkel_111jvives, no but it should be enabled through the config file?09:34
h3sp4wnjvives: aptitude search restricted~i (compare that to uname -a)09:34
heinkel_111isn't that the same effect?09:34
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habeebGreetings, I have emacs, but I want it to have antialiasing and I want it also to print some lines with color like it did on GNOME (When I say "some lines", I mean the calling of functions, the print command ,etc"09:34
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Lars_Gsay09:34
h3sp4wnheinkel_111: There has never been anything else to do except that for me09:34
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heinkel_111hmm...09:35
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Lars_Gif you had scim, and your kde's launch command (alt-f2) suddenly stops responding to keyboard, but nothing else kde does, what you'd do?09:35
h3sp4wnjvives: What card are you using ? if its a laptop one I would use the newer drivers from ati.com09:35
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jvivesh3sp4wn: got them installed... I remove/install them. Found that in a howto regarding my problem09:36
heinkel_111ok, it worked if i used the ssh -X server trick from jvives09:36
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dismal_Does anyone have any experience with mdf2iso and subsequently mounting a file with iso mount?09:36
h3sp4wnjvives: You want to remove fglrx ?09:36
heinkel_111but should not the changes to config file do that as default?09:36
h3sp4wnjvives: And use radeon ?09:37
Lars_Gheinkel_111: you can also activate it via config09:37
heinkel_111Lars_G: do i need to restart something to make config change noticed?09:37
Lars_Gheinkel_111: on the server side afaik you need to restart yes09:37
Lars_Gon the client side, no09:37
heinkel_111hmmm09:37
sc0tchDoes anybody have any recommendations on a "prefered/best" vnc server for a local lan connection.09:38
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r4wberryhey ho09:38
jvivesh3sp4wn: no... I have a ati mobility 900009:38
r4wberryis this the official kubuntu chan?09:38
jvivesand want to start using xgl09:38
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Lars_Gsc0tch: freenx09:38
heinkel_111Lars G: i have in my config file    ForwardX11 yes09:39
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Lars_Gr4wberry: No, it was named so to send people astray09:39
h3sp4wnjvives: You should be able to get accelerated 3d with radeon / mesa dri09:39
heinkel_111should not that be the same as ssh  -X server?09:39
Lars_Gheinkel_111: In theory... which config file? the client?09:39
h3sp4wnjvives: You should remove fglrx (sudo aptitude purge fglrx~i)09:39
jvivesh3sp4wn: radeon driver?09:39
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Lars_Gh3sp4wn: I tought radeon covered older cards only09:40
h3sp4wnmobility 9000 is r200 which is supported09:40
root_where do I go to edit my source tree files for my linux kernel09:40
Lars_GAh yes.09:40
habeeb!emacs09:40
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code09:40
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Lars_Groot_: do not connect to irc as root09:40
silvertohehe09:40
heinkel_111Lars_G: the config file was changed on the remote machine, which i guess is the X-client? it is the program server, AFAIK....(little confused)09:40
Lars_Gsilverto: /usr/src/linux and read the linux kernel howto09:40
silvertook09:41
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Lars_Gheinkel_111: ? easy, machine you connect from, ssh client, machine you connect to, ssh server, appart of what ports you forward09:41
h3sp4wnjvives: driver "radeon" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (but the 3d will not work until fglrx is removed those diverts we saw earlier would stop it)09:41
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Lars_Gfor client, /etc/ssh/ssh_config for server /etc/ssh/sshd_config09:41
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h3sp4wnjvives: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (select radeon - after fglrx is gone)09:41
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Lars_Gdon't confuse ssh_config for sshd_config09:41
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heinkel_111Lars_G in that case, i changed the config on the ssh server09:42
h3sp4wnits enabled by default for sshd anyway (I thought)09:42
Lars_Gheinkel_111: that will allow you to forward X but won't make it automatically forwarded, for that change client config in your client machien too09:42
jvivesh3sp4wn: brb, have to reboot X09:43
h3sp4wnjvives: wait one second09:43
Lars_Gheinkel_111: see the file and it should be evident, you can change it for all hosts or only for the one you're connecting as well09:43
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h3sp4wnjvives: You may need to remove fglrx from /etc/modules09:43
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Lars_Gh3sp4wn: and rmmod it or reboot09:43
everthow can i check or the nvidia driver install went ok ?09:43
heinkel_111Lars_G ... thanks!09:43
h3sp4wnjvives: and just restarting X won't work because the fglrx kernel module does alot of bad things09:43
jvivesh3sp4wn: not there09:43
Lars_Gevert: when you start X does it shows the nvidia logo?09:43
NDPTAL85Here's a better pic of my new desk: http://x5.freeshare.us/view/?120fs110546.jpg09:44
evertIs there no other way ?09:44
jvivesh3sp4wn: so, what should I do09:44
evertI installed it , but i didn't reboot i just restarted X09:44
Lars_Gevert: Another way, open your Xorg session, start an xterm/konsole/wathever and run "glxinfo" look for a like with "direct rendering" it should say "yes"09:44
h3sp4wnjvives: have you uninstalled the fglrx drivers ?09:44
evertOk , thx lars_G09:44
evertmy nvidia drivers are ok :)09:45
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Lars_Gevert: restarted X as in "loged off, loged on" or as in "loged off, started x with ctrl-alt-backspace, logged on"???09:45
h3sp4wnjvives: and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:45
evertctrl-alt-backspace09:45
Lars_Ggood :)09:45
evertit says that direct rendering 'yes'09:45
heinkel_111WOOOOHAA---this is so cool, no problem with the crashed gfx card on my old comp :P09:45
evert:)09:45
evertI still have a very little problem :D09:45
jvivesh3sp4wn: the auto-config give me the 'ati' driver as default... shod I use radean anyway?09:45
evertWhen i boot , the 'kopete' messenger starts with kde ... I wants that amsn starts in place of kopete09:45
h3sp4wnjvives: yes09:46
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r4wberryare there other-language channels supporting kubuntu users?09:46
r4wberryare there other-language channels supporting kubuntu users?09:46
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h3sp4wnLars_G: r200 ati's are supported better than any other card09:46
Lars_Gevert: if kde is autosaving session, just close kopete, open amsn, then close kde and restart it, it might work09:46
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Lars_Gh3sp4wn: It could be, but one of my biggest headaches on Ivy (first laptop) was trying to get decent work from the Mobility 750009:46
everti just did it with the ctrl alt backspace , i don"'t know he 'saved' my settings then :D09:47
Lars_Gevert: Nyet, ctrl-alt-backspace is like a "kill -9" it stabs kde on the back and won't let it save sessions09:47
h3sp4wnLars_G: My nvidia is dead at the moment and I am going to get an ati 9250 (no more tainted kernel for me)09:47
jvivesbut lsmod | grep radeon give me nothing...09:47
everti'll log out then :)09:47
everthopefullly he auto saves09:47
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evertbrb09:47
Lars_Gevert: Now kde is stabbed in the back, and you'll have to nurse it for a while for it to trust you again09:47
jvivesh3sp4wn: and radeon wasn't listed in the config menu09:47
evertlol09:48
evertbrb09:48
h3sp4wnjvives: add 'radeon' to the bottom of /etc/modules09:48
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Lars_Gh3sp4wn: I'm thinking changing to intel chipsets, they've released the 945 open source09:48
h3sp4wnLars_G: I don't like onboard video09:48
jvivesh3sp4wn: i try to modprobe it and got a error back09:48
h3sp4wnjvives: Its because of fglrx09:48
silvertoI just installed nvidia-xconfig from adept manager, now where do I go to use that program?09:48
Lars_Gh3sp4wn: I don't like giving money to ati only because nvidia drivers are closed09:49
h3sp4wnjvives: Until you do a hard reboot it won't work09:49
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jvivesh3sp4wn: brb then09:49
everthmm there didn't start a messenger program , not kopete , not amsn09:49
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Lars_Gevert: It might be non kde progies are not automatically added to the session, there's a way to edit the session to add programs to run at start but I forgot how. also there are dirs (~/.kde/something..) you can make a link to have it autostart on login as well09:50
Lars_Gsorry I can't be more specific09:50
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evertOk09:50
everti'll search it out09:50
silvertoIn my display system settings> Hardware profile it says my graphics card is nv. Does that mean it has nvidia driver installed?09:51
evertI still got another question , since kubuntu is now the only OS i'm having , i need to get it a bit 'nicer'. So is there a guide to get kubuntu a bit nicer ? (with xgl)09:51
Lars_Gevert: Compiz you mean? in my experience it's not worth the hazzle and loss of speed09:52
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evertnot only compiz ... Also a just getting this install 'nice' ...09:52
evertlike on lot's of screenshots :D09:52
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dismal_Can anyone guide me through the install of CDemu/09:53
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jvivesh3sp4wn: I'm back... using radeon as x driver09:54
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h3sp4wnjvives: glxinfo | grep direct ?09:54
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jvivesh3sp4wn: now, how can I chek the fps? answ: direct rendering: Yes09:55
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jvivesh3sp4wn: WOW glxgears run FAST!!!09:56
h3sp4wnjvives: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark09:56
jvivesh3sp4wn: actually runs, :D09:56
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h3sp4wnjvives: Any radeon 9250 or less is much better without fglrx09:56
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jvivesh3sp4wn: any benchmark already installed?09:57
proogdoes anyone know about an apple mighty mouse driver?09:57
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h3sp4wnjvives: the command above will give you the fps (honestly) don't know about real benchmarks (but the direct rendering yes means it is working)09:58
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jvivesh3sp4wn: ~700 fps09:59
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Pointblankhey all09:59
jvivesh3sp4wn: is that enogh?09:59
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h3sp4wnjvives: Does it look smooth ? The thing is the commercial drivers were written to make glxgears as fast as possible (better than there real performance)10:00
Pointblankhow do i install flash, ive got firefox and wine install, i was led to belive that i need to install the windows firefox and then flash?10:00
jvivesh3sp4wn: yeap... smoooooth10:00
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h3sp4wnjvives: Try a 3d application you want to use and see whether it works well10:00
proogno...?10:00
everthow can i take a screenshot of my desktop ?10:00
jvivesh3sp4wn: thx buddy, I've been fighting this shit for days :D10:00
h3sp4wnjvives: no probs10:01
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CVirusevert: ksnapshot10:01
Pointblankevert: go to utilities and then take screenshot10:01
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evertok , thx , it isn't in the menu but i'll ad it10:01
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dismal_Can someone explain to me what this means?:10:02
dismal_you need the source of your current running kernel.10:02
dismal_/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include needs to point at it. if you're not10:02
dismal_sure if it points to the righ kernel just type: ls -la /lib/modules/`uname10:02
dismal_-r`/build if its the correct kernel source all is ok. ;-)10:02
Pointblankcan anyone tell me how to install flash10:02
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evertKsnapshot is installed10:03
evertbut i can't find it in the kde menu :/10:03
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warpzonehey, I'm knit-picking here but10:04
warpzonesome of my applications (azureus, firefox) won't follow the set KDE theme10:04
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warpzoneis there a way to force it?10:05
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Xcaliburomg, I luv Cross Over Office!!!10:08
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hollywoodstarAnyone here know howto install kubuntu on a laptop ?10:08
hollywoodstaribm x40 if it helps10:08
XcaliburI am on it?10:08
Xcaliburlol10:08
Xcaliburwhat you need help with?10:09
hollywoodstarhow to install10:09
hollywoodstarnetwork ?10:09
Xcaliburwireless card?10:09
hollywoodstaryes10:09
Xcaliburlinksys?10:09
hollywoodstarno10:09
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Xcaliburwell, it keeps disabling you wireless connection?10:09
hollywoodstarehm10:09
Xcaliburwhat?10:09
hollywoodstarnot install network card10:09
hollywoodstarinstall the OS10:10
hollywoodstar:D10:10
hollywoodstarhaha10:10
Xcaliburok10:10
Xcaliburclick the install icon on the desktop10:10
Xcaliburonce10:10
hollywoodstarehm10:10
hollywoodstarI have win xp atm10:10
Xcaliburok10:10
hollywoodstarI want to have a dualboot with kub10:10
Xcaliburok10:10
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hollywoodstarbut in what way do I install it ?10:10
Xcaliburthen let me know when you get to the partition section10:10
Xcaliburi can show yo10:11
Xcaliburyou*10:11
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hollywoodstarbut I don't know how to begin an installation10:11
hollywoodstarshould I do something over the network ?10:11
Xcaliburdid you click the install icon once?10:11
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Arepie!bobot++10:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bobot++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:11
Xcaliburon the desltop10:11
Xcalibur1crossover10:12
Xcalibur!crossover10:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:12
Xcaliburdid you click it?10:12
hollywoodstarclick what ?10:12
Xcaliburthe install icon10:12
Xcaliburwait10:12
Xcaliburare you booted on the LiveCD?10:12
hollywoodstarno10:12
hollywoodstarI have no cd drive10:12
Xcaliburdid you burn it yet?10:12
Xcaliburok10:13
Xcaliburwell, I'm not sure if there is another way to boot it without a CD drive?10:13
Xcaliburhow old is the laptop?10:13
hollywoodstara year or 210:13
SonicChaoHow do I change kubuntu's login window?10:13
Xcaliburand it came with no CD reader?10:13
etamis it any possibility to run a program, logout, (the program still works), login, bring program to the front in linux console?10:13
SonicChaoAnd it's blue background behind that login window?10:13
Arepieis there any irc bot which can manage game ?10:13
etampleeease help!10:13
hollywoodstarXcalibur yes it's a tiny one10:14
silvertoIs there a way to test and see if I can use opengl 3d applications?10:14
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Xcaliburso, it's a notebook, not a laptop?10:14
hollywoodstarnotebook laptop ? isn't that the same10:14
hollywoodstaranyways10:14
Xcaliburnotebook=smaller, sometimes with no CD drive10:14
holycowhas anyone upgraded from ubuntu to kubuntu-desktop or the full blown version?10:14
holycowI'm having problems w/ apt-get and dependencies10:14
hollywoodstarI had in my mind somewhere that you could install over network somehow10:14
etamis it any possibility to run a program, logout, (the program still works), login, bring program to the front in linux console? can screen help me?10:15
DannilionI thought a notebook was white, with a spiral top? Sometimes there are lines on it...10:15
hollywoodstarheh10:15
Dannilion:P10:15
Xcaliburwell, I guess it could be possible, but with hard work, DOS commands, and a FTP prg10:15
hollywoodstarhm10:15
Xcaliburbut I'm not sure how I would go about doing that10:15
hollywoodstarok thx anyways10:16
hollywoodstar!installation10:16
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues10:16
hollywoodstarfound that10:16
Xcaliburum...you should ask some of the more experienced ppl in this channel, I have only had linux for like, and week 1/210:17
Xcaliburgood10:17
XcaliburI g2g10:17
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zorgluuumy kubuntu install freeze at 'configuring X'. nothing happen. no cd or disk activity. numlock still respond. any suggestion ?10:20
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Pointblankhey all, how do i add a printer10:23
Pointblankam connected to printer through networkj10:24
draikPointblank, Go to your K Menu > System Setting > Printers10:24
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draikonce you install your printer, I can help you setting up the printer for networking10:24
dismal_err, what is the command to delete a directory?10:24
jay_rm -r10:24
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dismal_thx10:24
Pointblankthere is no printer option anywhere in system or settings10:25
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draikPointblank, are you using Kubuntu?10:25
Pointblankyep10:25
draikok10:25
draikgo to your K Menu10:25
Pointblankyep10:25
draikthen you have System Settings... it on the list10:26
draikabove your Run Command10:26
Pointblankah yea10:26
draikok10:26
draikgo there10:26
draikthen click on Printers10:26
Pointblanki thought you meant under settings or system submenu things10:26
draiknope10:26
Pointblankyeah im at that now10:26
draiksorry if I wasn't clear10:26
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Pointblankah i see it now10:26
Pointblankadd printer10:26
draikyup10:26
root_ww00t i got my video card installed10:26
draikfind your manufacturer and then the model10:27
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draikcongrats silverto10:27
Pointblankdamnit i dont know its network adress10:27
Pointblankor port10:27
draikPointblank, install the printer from the local first, then the network10:28
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Pointblankah k10:28
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Pointblankthe printer inst joined by local though, do i just fdo that anyway?10:28
draikno10:28
Pointblankor do i actually plug in my printer to this comp10:28
draikdid you already install it locally on the other desktop?10:29
silvertoHow do I config Konversation to not log me in as root10:29
silvertohah10:29
Pointblankyes the other desktop is windows though10:29
Pointblankand i have windows ont this comp aswell10:29
Pointblankand printer works for both10:29
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draiksilverto, press F2 and then go though the Edit and configure your nicklist10:29
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draikPointblank, is the printer on this computer or the other?10:29
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Pointblankother10:30
rioux602hello10:30
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draikis it already installed with the drivers on the other computer?10:30
Pointblankyep10:30
draikok10:30
draikthen we can continue10:30
draikjust wanted to make sure we got that out of the way10:30
silvertoty10:30
Pointblankkk10:30
draiknow, is the other computer kubuntu or windows?10:30
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Pointblankwindows10:30
draikok10:30
draikno kubuntu on it?10:30
Pointblanknope10:30
draikok10:31
Pointblankits my parents computer, so i will not be allowed to sinatll kubuntu on it10:31
Pointblankinstall*10:31
draikno prob10:31
draikhere we go10:31
draikis the other computer on?10:31
Pointblankyea10:31
draikok10:31
draikget the computer's info... IP address, etc10:32
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draikyour parent's computer10:32
Pointblankjust IP?10:32
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draikIP and location10:33
Nookie^hi! who is incharge of kubuntu artwork?10:33
Pointblankok, IP of computer or IP of router? or are they the same10:33
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silvertoI don't know who is in charge of kubuntu artwork but its pretty cool10:34
jvivesh3sp4wn: can help me again? can't start xgl...10:34
jvivesh3sp4wn: I get a "no screen found" error10:34
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Nookie^Riddell: who is in charge of kubuntu artwork?10:35
rioux602Is there anybody to help me ? I want to configure a network10:36
h3sp4wnjvives: I have no idea about xgl (but if you were to run edgy with xorg 7.1 - then you would get aiglx which will allow you to run compiz) or you could use aiglx for xorg 7 (I have no idea of how to do any of these things though)10:36
jviveshey everybody... can anyone help me with my "no screen error" while trying to start xgl from kde10:36
jvivesh3sp4wn: thx anyway!10:37
fdovingNookie^: kenneth wimer.10:37
zorgluuuthe purple guy :)10:37
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goldenzimso far as I know.... kde don't work using xgl... I battled with it for a few days - no joy10:38
zorgluuusome people run kde on xgl10:38
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nnn0i've done that under suse10:38
goldenzimif anyone knows different... I'd love to hear it10:38
Pointblankhmmm10:38
nnn0but i soon removed it :)10:38
zorgluuui tried without success tho :)10:38
Nookie^fdoving: thanx10:39
rioux602someone good to explain me how to have access to my other comp on the network ?10:39
Pointblankinstalling this printer is proving tricky10:39
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goldenzimwhat's your network look like?10:40
AlastorBonjour la dedans :)10:40
rioux602salut ;)10:40
draiksorry, Pointblank, got a call10:40
Pointblankno worries10:40
AlastorHam plant, c'est pas le fr ici ^^10:40
Pointblanki got further by going through SMB10:40
draikgimme a sec... gonna scroll up to see where I left off10:40
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Pointblankif i go to add printer and go through SMB Shared printer, it picks up my network but doesnt pick up printer10:41
draikweird10:41
draikok10:41
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draikso IP address of computer is not the same as your router10:41
goldenzimyour printer is shared on your windows box?10:41
draikrouter will end in x.x.x.110:41
Pointblankyea10:42
Pointblanki know my router IP10:42
rioux602Anybody knows the game "dofus" and how to install it ?10:42
manu__bonsoir tout le monde10:42
goldenzimin a console type this ... smbclient -L //yourprintserverip10:42
rioux602salut10:42
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AlastorSome can help me to change the kubuntu's bootsplash ?10:43
goldenzimdoes your printer show up?10:43
Pointblanksec10:43
silvertois there a way to change the kubuntu clock to regular time from millitary time10:44
Pointblankprinterserver ip is not my router ip, i dont have a printerserver?10:44
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goldenzimprint server = the PC your printer is plugged into10:44
nnn0regular time :)10:44
goldenzimyou have one of those right?10:44
Pointblankwait10:45
Pointblankit came up with some stuff but i dont see my printer in there10:45
pierrethDoes any one knows how to activate an application using a script?10:45
goldenzimand that PC with the printer is running win right?10:45
Pointblankyep10:45
goldenzimme thinks your windows share is the problem10:46
nnn0Alastor: this is for ubuntu, don't know if kubuntu is different though https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto10:46
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dismal_Pointblank:  I think you can change the way it displays by going into the clock settings and making it hh:mm:ss instead of HH:MM:SS  (I stress I think, because 24 hour time runs shit ;) )10:46
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nnn0most people use "military time" - am/pm is gay :D10:48
shadowr3dHello everyone10:48
Pointblankdismal: wasnt me who asked about time :P10:48
goldenzimyeah.... if you don't know if it's morning or evening you have bigger problems :P10:48
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nnn0exactly :D10:48
dismal_Pointblank: my bad - lack of sleep does things to me10:49
shadowr3di know how to change the boot splash10:49
Pointblankno worries10:49
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elknof1hi everybody10:49
elknof1hey does anyone can help me turning on the dma of the dvd??10:49
elknof1running on dapper10:50
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zorgluuuout of the blue, you may look at hdparam10:50
zorgluuuhdparm i mean10:50
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zorgluuugoogle say it is a good idea :)10:51
Pointblankil sleep on this printer thing and try again tommorow10:51
elknof1haha thanks10:51
jvivesanyone that can help me with my "no screens found" problem while trying to start xgl10:51
elknof1let me take a look10:51
fdovingjvives: #ubuntu-xgl can be helpful.10:51
jvivesfdoving: no one "listening" there10:52
fdovingok, i'm not a xgl-head.10:52
zorgluuukubuntu cd is always live now :) impressive :)10:52
steveireIs it possible to create users without passwords?10:53
steveireIe, the user doesn't have to enter a password to log in.10:53
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goldenzimyou mean at the login screen?10:53
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fdovingsteveire: yes, you can specify that in the login manager configuration.10:53
k_userhello10:54
steveirecool. Is there a way to make all users on the computer appear as a choice in the login screen?10:54
fdovingsteveire: system settings -> advanced -> login manager10:54
k_useri've got a problem10:54
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fdovingor something like that.10:54
Xcaliburdid hollywood figure out how to install without the Cd?10:54
Xcalibur!installation10:54
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues10:54
k_userI installed an new version ov libc6, but it had dependences.. too many. so i gave up, but now the new libc is in "hold" state and i cant simply unninstall it to put the new. I tried apt-get -f install and other thing10:56
k_userwhat do i do?10:56
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fdovingk_user: you can't uninstall libc6, you must re-install the older version.10:58
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k_userfdoving: i tryied, but it says that the libc6(new version) is in Hold, then i can't install the old back.10:59
k_userits like if its waiting me to provide the dependencies to install the new one11:00
k_userbut i wanna go back11:00
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angelakihow i can open a port in linux??11:02
pierrethis possible to reduce all the other windows in one command?11:04
k_userCorrecting dependencies: failure > libc6: depends: tzdata but is not installable11:04
goldenzimsudo apt-get remove libc6...11:04
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angel12hey im having problems with my wireless in dapper11:06
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angel12i cant get an ip from my router11:06
goldenzimwhat type of wireless you got?11:06
angel12atmel11:06
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goldenzimis that one of those windows wireless cards?11:07
k_userE: dependence unmatched try apt-get - f install (or specify a solution)11:07
angel12goldenzim, what do you mean?11:07
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goldenzimI had trouble with my wireless card cos the linux driver was no good... I had to install ndiswrapper to get it to work... like so : ndiswrapper -i /path/to/win.inf file11:08
uttaangel12: ifconfig shows what11:08
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k_userE: Error, pkgProblemResolver:: Resolve generate failure. It can be caused by Hold packages11:09
angel12everything that it should except an ip. i just found a bug report on my spec. tablet though. so i need to use breezy for wireless to work11:10
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uttaangel12: I mean wlan? eth?11:11
angel12eth111:11
goldenzima good app to help with  wireless though is knetworkmanager11:11
uttaangel12: iwconfig eth111:11
angel12utta, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/atmel-firmware/+bug/30866, thats the bug report11:12
angel12utta, cause everything is set up right, it just hangs at dhcp11:12
shadowr3dhello11:13
shadowr3dwho is in charge of this room?11:13
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uttaangel12: hmm, that is probably the bug then. Did you blacklist the module before installing ndiswrapper?11:14
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angel12utta, i havent tried ndiswrapper yet, cause i was scared of breaking something. how would i blacklist the module?11:14
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gedis there a way to rebuild just one kernel module of the running kernel?11:15
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goldenzimadd the wireless module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist11:15
uttaangel12: ndiswrapper woeks well. Best is to find one of the howto's to follow11:15
goldenzimthen try installing the win driver using ndiswrapper11:16
angel12goldenzim, alright, thanks11:16
uttaangel12: /woeks/works/11:16
silvertoCan someone help me I installed the quake2-data package using adept manager and I can't get it to work?11:16
goldenzimyou'll prolly need to reboot before anything happens11:16
mowglihi, all! new Linux user here! I've installed Kubuntu desktop on a 386 PC and am trying to share my ADSL connection (eagle usb) with a Win98 laptop with crossed Ethernet cable. The laptop is set as default to connect with WinXp (automatic IP address). I've installed Samba and DHCP server, but DHCP server cannot start on boot (don't know why...). how can I fix this?11:16
zorgluuuonce i am in the desktop of the livecd, i often got frozen11:17
zorgluuuaka the mouse stop to move11:17
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goldenzimLinux is da poo!11:18
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angel12zorgluuu, how much ram do you have?11:18
zorgluuu512mbyte11:18
zorgluuuhow does this relate to my issue ?11:19
goldenzim512 Megs... in a 386?????11:19
goldenzimwrong dude.... my bad  :P11:19
zorgluuu:)11:19
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goldenzimtry this zor11:20
zorgluuumine is a laptop p4m11:20
zorgluuuand it was running kubuntu yesterday :)11:20
goldenzimpop open a console ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:20
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goldenzimfolow the menu... then restart X11:20
zorgluuuok i tried that before reinstalling :)11:20
zorgluuuoki list you all the bugs of the script :)11:21
zorgluuuit doesnt support ctrl-c11:21
ubuntu__i can't get the screen refresh rate right on the ubuntu live cd11:21
zorgluuu(nor esc)11:21
zorgluuuthere are no way to exit or go back in the options11:21
zorgluuuif you dare to close the window, it leave pending lock :)11:21
angel12zorgluuu, try using the alternate install cd11:21
zorgluuuso i really dont trust such script :)11:21
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zorgluuuangel12: what is the difference vs the 'main' cd ?11:22
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angel12zorgluuu, it doesnt use the GUI to install, its like how the install was pre-dapper11:22
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Admiral_Chicagozorgluuu, you can just run it again after you end it11:22
goldenzimI am not a fan of that live cd... I always use the alternate myself. It's faster that way too11:22
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zorgluuuit is like a text install11:23
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zorgluuuwell why not, anyway the main cd doesnt run on my box11:23
goldenzimyes... it's very simpole though... even if it is text based11:23
zorgluuudownload time :)11:24
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zorgluuuhttp://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.06/ explains what is the 'alternate cd'11:25
zorgluuuyou sure i enter in this case ? :)11:25
goldenzimnothing to loce bro11:25
goldenzimlose... grrr11:25
zorgluuunot false :)11:26
zorgluuuhmm 1h of download11:26
zorgluuu13min from a local archive :)11:26
goldenzimnice speed you got there11:27
goldenzimbetter than mine :(11:27
zorgluuuyep, isp are competing against each other in france, so good prize and good perf11:27
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k_userHELP!11:28
zorgluuumobile phone provide does not compete with each other, so poor perf and poor prize :)11:28
goldenzimWHAT?11:28
mohamedi need help !!11:28
goldenzimspeak up then :)11:28
shadowr3dno shouting it is rude11:28
k_useri did  sudo dpkg --force-depends -r libc611:29
goldenzimand????11:29
k_useri cand even do an 'ls'11:29
goldenzimit blew up?11:29
mohamedi have problems with my sound card  the quality is not like in windose11:29
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k_userwhat do i do now????11:30
zorgluuuk_user: next time you will know that updating the libc is one of the most dangerous thing :)11:30
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zorgluuuif you are an expert, you launch a live cd and put it back to the previous state11:30
zorgluuuif you are a beginer, you reinstall :)11:30
Arepiehello, i just install powertweak, how can i run the program ?11:31
k_userisnt there any way to fix it??11:31
goldenzimdude.... you just told apt to break itself... best you do a reinstall11:31
zorgluuuk_user: first, beginer should not use --force :)11:31
zorgluuuand to use --force on libc you need like 10 year of linux install :)11:32
zorgluuuin short you did a mistake11:32
zorgluuuand now you should reinstall11:32
zorgluuu6min10sec11:33
k_userits not helping11:33
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zorgluuuhehe you wait for us to provide you a simply cut/paste fix, i guess11:34
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goldenzimback in a mo11:34
goldenzimreinstall k man11:34
zorgluuuwell if i had it, i would give it to you11:34
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zorgluuuthe truth is that a big package guys will spend like 20min to fix your issue in front of your box11:35
zorgluuu4min...11:35
k_useri have the .deb here all i need is to install it.11:35
zorgluuuhehe ok :)11:35
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zorgluuuor if you dont want to reinstall now, you could complain about it for a while and then reinstall :)11:36
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zorgluuu2min30sec11:36
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Lunar_Raven!aiglx11:38
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.11:38
fdovinggnite ppl.11:40
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jt__hello11:43
jt__can anyone think why my adept wont let me manage repositories?11:44
jt__the menu item is just disabled11:44
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lupine_85are you running it as root/sudo ?11:48
jt__yeah11:48
jt__there's no difference is there?11:48
lupine_85dunno then. Maybe /etc/apt/sources.list isn't sane11:48
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lupine_85I was thinking permissions problem, but unlikely if you're root :)11:48
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jt__mmm11:49
jt__sources.list seems to be normal11:49
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jt__could it be anything to do with setting a root passwd?11:50
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lupine_85no, wouldn't be that11:50
jt__or maybe because im running edgy eft?11:50
lupine_85I've got one, and it works here11:50
lupine_85erm, yes. probably edgy11:51
jt__:(11:51
lupine_85try #ubuntu+111:51
lupine_85probably they're working on that aspect of the software at the moment and dont' want it breaking anyone's install11:51
jt__thanks lupine_8511:51
lupine_85np :)11:52
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zorgluuuarf i got the explaination of the issue in my kubuntu install, the cd seems corrupted :)11:53
zorgluuu'2 checksum failed' :)11:54
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Larynxok11:58
zorgluuumouaoua i really bad tonite :)11:58
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zorgluuui was afraid my .iso was not the same hash as the theorical ones11:58
zorgluuubut i computed sha1 and the theorical are in md5 :)11:59
Larynxme need a good musicplayer12:00
zorgluuu!amarok12:01
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org12:01
zorgluuuthis is the popular one12:01
Larynxi was thinkin like.. xmms12:01
zorgluuuso install xmms :)12:01
divansantanay not amarok it rocks12:01
divansantanaisnt there xmms2  out?12:01
lupine_85amarok is good, but resource-hungry12:01
lupine_85xmms runs on a shoestring12:01
Larynxhow do i get it?12:02
divansantanasearch im not too sur12:02
Larynxhow do you do that?12:03
nnn0!xmms12:03
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs12:04
nnn0k12:04
Larynxo.O12:04
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nagyvhow can I browse the neighbouring machines? I would like to connect to a windows shared drive, but don't know how.12:05
nnn0!samba12:06
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:06
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tj!w32codecs12:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:06
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zorgluuuon the install cd, what is filesystem.squashfs ?12:09

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