[12:10] <lotusleaf> shadowr3d: press eject on your burner and when it comes out you clutch it with joy and say "wow thank you mark!"
[12:10] <shadowr3d> no
[12:10] <dein> www.ubuntu.com shadowr
[12:10] <lotusleaf> shadowr3d: then dance like a mouse
[12:10] <shadowr3d> ok
[12:10] <lotusleaf> shadowr3d: and make your own mouse house out of cardboard
[12:11] <dein> obsessed with mice lotusleaf?
[12:11] <Tm_T> dein: xfce is
[12:11] <fdoving> shadowr3d: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[12:11] <lotusleaf> dein: have you seen the xfce logo? :)
[12:11] <dein> xfce is very small though
[12:11] <dein> i use a different non-mousy one
[12:11] <lotusleaf> dein: even the smallest person can change the course of the future, remember what the good elf lady said?
[12:11] <shadowr3d> fdovin yes
[12:12] <lotusleaf> dein: I bet all hobbits use xubuntu
[12:12] <dein> there should be a windowmanager obsessed with cows
[12:12] <lotusleaf> dein: hurdbuntu
[12:12] <fdoving> dein: don't need to, apt has super cow powers.
[12:12] <dein> apt is only a package manager tho
[12:12] <xav__> apt-get mooes
[12:13] <dein> it cant possibly meet all my bovine needs
[12:13] <xav__> dein: either kde or gnome should do
[12:13] <josh__> lol
[12:14] <Toran> how can I get the "extract here..." service menu in konqueror for .RAR files? I have it for .zip and .tar.gz and .tar.bz2, but not rars
[12:14] <dein> i can't wait till kde 4.0
[12:14] <xav__> I can
[12:14] <dein> toran, install unrar
[12:14] <dein> sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:15] <xav__> rar == warez
[12:15] <dthacker> Ok, I've rebooted, started adept, and pushed "Fetch Updates", which finished way too fast.  A visit to the "manage repositories page" shows them all grayed out.  That seems bad.....
[12:15] <xav__> bad bad
[12:15] <dein> not all the time xav lol
[12:15] <fdoving> unrar isn't
[12:15] <xav__> .rar I mean
[12:15] <Toran> thanks dein
[12:16] <dein> ok i go deliver pizza for the next 5 hours of my life ; ;
[12:16] <dein> bye
[12:16] <dthacker> drive carefully
[12:16] <Xcalibur> whats different in edubuntu compared to ubuntu
[12:16] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:16] <dthacker> hehe
[12:16] <fdoving> bye dein. good luck with the pizza.
[12:17] <fdoving> Xcalibur: you can read about edubuntu here: http://edubuntu.org/
[12:17] <shadowr3d> how come i cant use edubuntu as a live cd
[12:17] <cholera> #staemme
[12:17] <lotusleaf> Toran: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=33751
[12:18] <lotusleaf> doh
[12:18] <xt> hello! My edgy eft installation is stopping with partman running in eternal loops
[12:18] <xt> is it a known bug?
[12:18] <fdoving> xt: might try #kubuntu-devel for that.
[12:18] <xt> fdoving: k
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the best advantage that edgy have in the future?
[12:22] <zorgluuu> !info gcc
[12:22] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[12:23] <{malice}> ? I have a Dell Latitude C540 and I need to upgrade the bios but I do not have floppy does anyone know how I can run the exe file in ubuntu? I installed wine and it does not work
[12:24] <zorgluuu> hmm 4.0.2 is bugged but what about 4.0.3 ? :)
[12:24] <zorgluuu> http://linux.dell.com/blog/2005/10/11/
[12:25] <zorgluuu> malice, seems to talk about your stuff
[12:25] <{malice}> zorgluuu:ty
[12:27] <now3d> Hi, I have a few programms crashing in ubuntu, seems to point to libc, is ubuntu-users or ubuntu-devl the best place to discuss?
[12:28] <xav__> now3d: check reported bugs
[12:29] <xav__> now3d: why does it seem to point to libc?
[12:29] <Xcalibur> whats a good media player
[12:29] <danex> Is it possible to install kubuntu via a connection to a server?
[12:29] <Frederick> folks is there any kind of openssl dev package on kubuntu? or any flag I must activate to get all docs?
[12:29] <Frederick> Xcalibur, xine
[12:30] <jbirdAngel> Hello, can someont tell me what krita stands for
[12:30] <now3d> xav__: gdb:  #0  0xb7e6f2a3 in strlen () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc
[12:31] <zorgluuu> :) it is hardly a proof :)
[12:31] <now3d> xav__: I recompiled the program which triggered the crash, dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/now3d/rip.bin bs=512
[12:31] <Generic> anyone using Edgy eft?
[12:31] <Xcalibur> how do i acsess
[12:31] <Generic> !mp3 > me
[12:31] <Xcalibur> xine
[12:31] <now3d> xav__ a basic operation shouldnt cause a crash
[12:31] <Generic> !mp3 > Generic
[12:31] <fdoving> Generic: yes.
[12:31] <Xcalibur> !mp3
[12:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:32] <xav__> now3d: weird
[12:32] <xav__> now3d: well, check bugs
[12:32] <Generic> fdoving: have you tried using automatix or easyubuntu yet?
[12:32] <now3d> When I do apt-get install samba   i get this warning:  WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!      is that like it on tyours?
[12:32] <zorgluuu> now3d: can you put the backtrace in pastbin ?
[12:32] <Xcalibur> !wmv
[12:32] <zorgluuu> the whole backtrace :)
[12:32] <Xcalibur> a better question, what can play wmv's?
[12:32] <fdoving> Generic: no, and i don't recommend using either. Use at own risk.
[12:32] <fdoving> !wmv
[12:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:33] <Generic> fdoving: I'm aware of that, I just want to use a script to install all the codecs for audio
[12:33] <Generic> Amarok recently added support for wmv
[12:33] <Xcalibur> does kubuntu come with amarok?
[12:33] <fdoving> yes.
[12:33] <Xcalibur> ok
[12:34] <zorgluuu> now3d: ?
[12:34] <now3d> zorgluuu: just a sec ;)
[12:34] <zorgluuu> ok :)
[12:34] <now3d> zorgluuu: http://pastebin.com/782323
[12:34] <kieselsteini> Xcalibur: without amaroK KDE wouldn't be that cool *g*
[12:35] <zorgluuu> hmm pastebin.com seems unreachable from here
[12:35] <Generic> !pastebin
[12:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:35] <zorgluuu> ah no, just very slow :)
[12:35] <Xcalibur> it won't play, etf?
[12:36] <Xcalibur> wtf******
[12:36] <zorgluuu> /home/now3d/coreutils-5.97/src/dd <- you compiled it yourself i can see
[12:36] <zorgluuu> now3d, the stack seems quite corrupted :)
[12:37] <Xcalibur> i click play, and Amarok plays for a second, then stops?
[12:37] <zorgluuu> /home/now3d/coreutils-5.97/src/dd <- you compiled it yourself i can see. now3d, the stack seems quite corrupted :)
[12:37] <Xcalibur> wft?
[12:37] <Xcalibur> wtf*
[12:37] <zorgluuu> now3d, main() and stuff are absent from the stack
[12:37] <now3d> zorgluuu: it keeps kicking me while i try and paste you
[12:37] <zorgluuu> now3d, my guess is that you didnt put the proper option
[12:38] <zorgluuu> maouaoua i rxmited twice already :)
[12:38] <zorgluuu> now3d: no need to paste me, pastbin reacted :)
[12:38] <now3d> zorgluuu:  hmm, what option?
[12:38] <zorgluuu> now3d: i dunno :)
[12:38] <now3d> zorgluuu: oh, i thought you knew about this stuff..
[12:38] <zorgluuu> now3d: why do you need to compile core-utils yourself ?
[12:38] <Generic> Xcalibur: do you have w32codecs installed?
[12:38] <now3d> zorgluuu: to confirm its not coretutils package..
[12:38] <Xcalibur> how I get them?
[12:38] <zorgluuu> no i dont know all the compilation option of the coreutil packages :)
[12:39] <now3d> anyone have any answer to my samba question?
[12:39] <Generic> Xcalibur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:39] <Generic> about 1/4 the way down
[12:39] <zorgluuu> ok have fun guys :)
[12:40] <fdoving> now3d: what samba question, and you know you can run 'apt-get install --reinstall coreutils' if apt-get works.
[12:40] <beniamino_> just dist-upgraded to dapper and now my sound is broken: cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp says '/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy'
[12:41] <nagyv> I have just tried compiz without xgl. It worked with my Ati Mobility Radeon 9600, and the free radeon driver. Are there any chances to get it working with xgl too?
[12:41] <Generic> nagyz, use automatix-bleeder
[12:41] <Generic> I used that to setup compiz/xgl and it worked for me
[12:41] <Xcalibur> omg
[12:42] <Generic> ZOMG
[12:42] <lotusleaf> that's nothing, I installed xgl by strobe light after 5 days without sleep
[12:42] <Blissex> lotusleaf: because XGL deserves that degree of effort? :-)
[12:43] <lotusleaf> Blissex: because I was dared to
[12:43] <now3d> fdoving: coreutils md5sums verifies, and gives the same libc callstack.. so its not that deb "dd"..
[12:43] <Blissex> lotusleaf: uhmmmmm :-)
[12:44] <Xcalibur> i f****** hate tis adept bulls***, i goto install anything, and instead of installing it, it says BREAK in large red letters, and sais the commit broke the packages
[12:44] <Xcalibur> wtf?
[12:44] <Xcalibur> anyone?
[12:44] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:44] <Generic> Xcalibur: do it through konsole
[12:44] <now3d> fdoving: but I'll give it ago...  i get the same "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" as I now get when installing "samba", any ideas>?
[12:44] <fdoving> Xcalibur: wtf. try to be a little more polite and use proper language. ok, wtf? thanks in advance :)
[12:45] <Xcalibur> same prob, and srry for the language
[12:45] <Generic> Xcalibur: it should give you the details on the operation this time
[12:45] <fdoving> Xcalibur: try to run 'sudo apt-get -f install' from konsole.
[12:45] <Xcalibur> ok
[12:46] <Generic> also, do a sudo apt-get -f install
[12:46] <Xcalibur> let me use pastebin
[12:46] <fdoving> now3d: i'm reading your pastebin now.
[12:47] <Xcalibur> !pastebin
[12:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:48] <fdoving> now3d: what is the problem, the tls crash?
[12:48] <now3d> fdoving: Yes
[12:48] <Xcalibur> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22380
[12:48] <fdoving> now3d: do you get that from the installed coreutils too? or just the one you've compiled yourself?
[12:48] <now3d> fdoving: yes, from both, i built myself to verify that
[12:49] <fdoving> now3d: understand. did you install anything or change anything to before getting that error ?
[12:49] <now3d> fdoving: no
[12:49] <now3d> fdoving: I got a segfault from smbpasswd, but could not reproduce to get a callstack
[12:49] <fdoving> now3d: please check /var/log/dpkg.log to be on the safe side.
[12:50] <Xcalibur> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22380 - someone plz read this?
[12:50] <fdoving> Xcalibur: try to run 'sudo apt-get -f install' without mozilla-firefox as an argument.
[12:50] <Xcalibur> ok
[12:50] <Xcalibur> it's oly 3 lines
[12:50] <Xcalibur> do i have to use paste bin
[12:50] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:51] <fdoving> yes.
[12:51] <Xcalibur> ok
[12:52] <Xcalibur> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22381
[12:53] <fdoving> Xcalibur: then it's no problems.
[12:53] <fdoving> you want to install firefox?
[12:53] <Xcalibur> that, and the win32codecs
[12:53] <fdoving> 'sudo aptitude update;sudo aptitude install firefox'
[12:53] <fdoving> !w32codecs
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:54] <now3d> fdoving: Ok, here is a log of that file, i installed a few packages:   http://pastebin.com/782343
[12:54] <Xcalibur> yo, I got an error while updating
[12:55] <fdoving> Xcalibur: if it's more than one line, pastebin it.
[12:55] <fdoving> i have to go in 2-5 mins.. going to bed. it's late here.
[12:55] <Xcalibur> ok
[12:55] <Xcalibur> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22383
[12:56] <now3d> Hi, anyone know how to turn off all the icons appear when i move my mouse over shortcuts on my KDE panel bar?
[12:56] <Generic> Xcalibur: that isn't anything serious, but you will need to get the gpg key for that repository
[12:57] <fdoving> Xcalibur: you should change mirror.noreply.org to cc.archive.ubuntu.com, where cc should be your two letter coutry code.
[12:57] <fdoving> Xcalibur: that should be in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:57] <kevyn> where can i find limewire for linux
[12:57] <Generic> kevyn: google knows
[12:57] <Xcalibur> exacly how do i fix this prob, can somone priv msg me?
[12:57] <Generic> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:57] <now3d> fdoving: any ideas..?
[12:57] <Generic> go down and edit the line
[12:57] <fdoving> kevyn: i recommend frostwire, free limewire "copy"
[12:58] <fdoving> !frostwire
[12:58] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:58] <fdoving> kevyn: ^^
[12:59] <Xcalibur> couldn't i just edit this with adept
[12:59] <fdoving> Xcalibur: in konsole, run: sudo perl -i -p -e 's/mirror.noreply.org/archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <fdoving> Xcalibur: then re-run 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:00] <Xcalibur> ok
[01:01] <fdoving> now3d: not really.. no. try to just reinstall coreutils without authentication.. to check.
[01:01] <shadowr3d> is it possible to add windows media player 11 beta 2 for kubuntu
[01:02] <fdoving> I have to go now, good night all.
[01:02] <shadowr3d> aww man
[01:02] <kevyn> HOW CAN I INSTALL RPM FILE
[01:02] <shadowr3d> is it possible to add windows media player 11 beta 2 for kubuntu
[01:02] <fdoving> shadowr3d: i wouldn't install windows media player in linux, take a look at kaffeine or codeine, and amarok.
[01:03] <Xcalibur> rpm is for rehat
[01:03] <Xcalibur> redhat
[01:03] <fdoving> kevyn: YOU CANT, THIS IS UBUNTU WE USE .DEB. OK?
[01:03] <Haz> XD
[01:03] <Xcalibur> hey, I reupdated with sudo apt-get update
[01:03] <shadowr3d> fdoving but i like the new version of windows media player
[01:03] <Xcalibur> tried to install firefox
[01:03] <Tm_T> well, you can always use alien to transfer rpm to deb
[01:04] <Xcalibur> and it told me "mozilla-firefox: Depends: firefox but it is not going to be installe"
[01:04] <Generic> shadowr3d: then use windows
[01:04] <kevyn> i cant install with shell
[01:04] <kevyn> it doesnt work
[01:04] <Generic> !alien
[01:04] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[01:04] <fdoving> kevyn: sorry for beeing rude with the caps, we generally don't like caps, it's considered "shouting" and that's like "hey my problem is more important than all the others in here" and that attitude is disliked.
[01:04] <kevyn> i'm srr
[01:04] <davy> hey ppl, i have a problem with upgrading to the newest kde version?
[01:05] <kevyn> now
[01:05] <fdoving> kevyn: it's ok. :)
[01:05] <kevyn> no
[01:05] <fdoving> now goodnight all.
[01:05] <Xcalibur> anyone?
[01:05] <Generic> goodnight fdoving
[01:05] <shadowr3d> i have it installed on windows but i want windows media player 11 beta 2 on kubuntu also so can anyone help
[01:05] <Tm_T> good night here too ->
[01:05] <Generic> Xcalibur: install firefox, sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:06] <Generic> shadowr3d: try wine
[01:06] <shadowr3d> yea?
[01:06] <shadowr3d> how
[01:06] <Xcalibur> I tried
[01:06] <Generic> !wine > shadowr3d
[01:06] <shadowr3d> could you show me
[01:06] <Xcalibur> and it said "mozilla-firefox: Depends: firefox but it is not going to be installed"
[01:06] <shadowr3d> how do i make it so it runs under wine
[01:06] <davy> when doing a apt-get update and upgrade its says its only gonna update 25 packages??
[01:06] <Generic> what did you get when you did "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[01:06] <Generic> shadowr3d: google knows
[01:07] <Generic> davy, that's normal
[01:07] <shadowr3d> omg
[01:07] <Generic> it means that 25 packages have been updated in the repos
[01:07] <kevyn> i ghot shell file for limewire but i cant install it
[01:07] <davy> yes but 80 are not updated???
[01:07] <Generic> davy, that usually means it's a major realease, use apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:07] <Generic> are you suing dapper?
[01:07] <Generic> s/suing/using
[01:07] <Xcalibur> ?
[01:08] <davy> yes dapper
[01:08] <Generic> okay, then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:08] <kevyn> i ghot shell file for limewire but i cant install it
[01:08] <davy> thanks generic :)
[01:08] <Xcalibur> anyone?
[01:08] <davy> i am gonna try that
[01:08] <Generic> Xcalibur: it should resolve dependency issues when you do apt-get -f install
[01:09] <Generic> kevyn: there should be a guide for installing frostwire
[01:09] <Generic> I haven't used it so I can't help you with that
[01:09] <davy> great looks better now, 100+ packages updating ...
[01:10] <kevyn> frostwire???
[01:10] <Xcalibur> should i try to reboot?
[01:10] <Generic> kevyn: use frostwire, not limewire
[01:10] <Generic> Xcalibur: are you paying attention to anything I'm saying?
[01:10] <Xcalibur> yes, i tried that, same result
[01:11] <Generic> hmm
[01:11] <Generic> try a dpkg --purge mozilla-firefox
[01:11] <Generic> then apt-get install firefox
[01:12] <Xcalibur> I'm gonna paste what it gives me, different this time
[01:12] <bill__> is there any way to modify the size of the taskbar?
[01:12] <Xcalibur> in pastebin
[01:13] <bill__> I'd like the taskbar to be longer...
[01:13] <Generic> ok
[01:13] <mortenskyt> bill__: yes, it's very customizable
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> Im playing the kubuntu edgy and the graphical package manager is still crashing
[01:13] <bill__> how so?
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> well in my case it doesnt even start
[01:13] <mortenskyt> the taskbar isn't 100% width already?
[01:13] <Xcalibur> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22388
[01:13] <otaku-san> hey what would I put in Konsole to install QT....I tried sudo apt-get install qt...didn't work
[01:13] <Xcalibur> there
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> the command line stuff works fine though
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> Im using node 2
[01:14] <bill__> mortenskyt: I dont think it is...
[01:14] <mortenskyt> anyway, what you should try and do is right-click somewhere on the taskbar (where there's nothing) and choose "configure panel"
[01:14] <Generic> Xcalibur: you're repository is screwy
[01:14] <mortenskyt> and see if the length is 100%, if not, make it so
[01:15] <Xcalibur> how i fix?
[01:15] <bill__> oh, I mean the actual task bar...not the entire panel. the taskbar as in the windowlist
[01:15] <Generic> Xcalibur: you can use this to generate a new one: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:16] <Keaton> My ATI Radeon 9200 won't display after the boot screen.
[01:16] <mortenskyt> oh, yea right
[01:16] <mortenskyt> I figure stay in the configure panel-menu
[01:16] <mortenskyt> and go to "appearance"
[01:16] <mortenskyt> and click "advanced options"
[01:16] <mortenskyt> and set applet handles to "visible"
[01:16] <mortenskyt> then you can see how big the taskbar is
[01:16] <Generic> Keaton, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow through it
[01:17] <mortenskyt> and move whatever applets are in the way by simply moving them with your mouse
[01:17] <kevyn> how i install frostwire
[01:18] <Generic> !frostwire
[01:18] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:18] <Lunar_Raven> !frostwire
[01:18] <gnomefreak> !frostwire
[01:18] <Lunar_Raven> you beat me
[01:18] <Lunar_Raven> :(
[01:18] <Generic> Booyah!
[01:18] <kevyn> ok
[01:18] <mortenskyt> kevyn: go to www.frostwire.com
[01:18] <kevyn> i did
[01:18] <Xcalibur> yay
[01:18] <Xcalibur> I made a new one
[01:19] <mortenskyt> right-click on "ubuntu/debian" and save link as and choose your desktop
[01:19] <Xcalibur> ok, now what, try to install firefox
[01:19] <mortenskyt> ok
[01:19] <Xcalibur> ?
[01:19] <davy> be back later, need to log off :) thanks for ur help Generic
[01:19] <Generic> Xcalibur: have you replaced your currnet sources.list with the new one?
[01:19] <mortenskyt> then it should just be a matter of fireing up a console, cd to your desktop and type
[01:19] <Generic> No problem davy :)
[01:19] <bill__> mortenskyt: setting the applet handles visible doesnt change the size of the taskbar
[01:19] <Xcalibur> i did the command thing
[01:19] <mortenskyt> sudo  dpkg --install whateverthefileis.deb
[01:19] <mortenskyt> oh, hm
[01:20] <mortenskyt> bill__, no
[01:20] <Generic> Xcalibur: which would be...
[01:20] <mortenskyt> but it makes visible where the borders are
[01:20] <mortenskyt> should be a matter of moving whatever applets are blocking the taskbar from being full size
[01:20] <mortenskyt> and setting the handles to visible makes you capable of seeing them
[01:21] <bill__> well, there's nothing blocking the taskbar...as far as I can tell it is in the full, default size. I'd like to know if it is possible expand this size...like in gnome
[01:22] <mortenskyt> eh.... hm, how expand?
[01:22] <Generic> Xcalibur: type this: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:22] <mortenskyt> you could add it somewhere else on the screen in it's own space
[01:22] <Generic> then replace the list with your new one
[01:22] <mortenskyt> which would be something like adding a new panel and then adding the taskbar-applet
[01:23] <mortenskyt> but I don't see how you'd expand it otherwise...
[01:23] <bill__> from say, 90 pixels width to 300 pixels width
[01:23] <mortenskyt> 90px?! that's nothing, howcome it's so tiny
[01:23] <bill__> I dont know the exact number....
[01:24] <bill__> that's just an example
[01:24] <mortenskyt> yea yea, but what's left and right of the taskbar?
[01:24] <bill__> plenty of space
[01:24] <bill__> I'd like to fill that space
[01:25] <mortenskyt> yes, I just don't get why that's not possible...
[01:25] <bill__> there's no size option for the taskbar
[01:25] <bill__> at least via gui
[01:25] <mortenskyt> not in width, only height
[01:25] <mortenskyt> in return, it has length
[01:25] <mortenskyt> but if that's 100%, it should be cool
[01:25] <mortenskyt> then it's just a matter of fiddleing the various applets in the bar
[01:26] <bill__> you're thinking of the panel. I'm talking about the tastbar. there is no option to change its default size....
[01:26] <mortenskyt> hm
[01:26] <Xcalibur> im sorry, can somone plz send me the link to make new sources.list, my parents made me so mad, i almost threw my laptop
[01:26] <mortenskyt> the way it works in kde is that the taskbar should be maximum possible width per default
[01:26] <bill__> even if you change the panel to "large" or whatever...the taskbar remains the same width.
[01:26] <mortenskyt> unless something is blocking it
[01:26] <Xcalibur> ?
[01:27] <mortenskyt> exactly
[01:27] <mortenskyt> so right to the taskbar probably, there's some applet you need to move or remove
[01:27] <mortenskyt> and the taskbar would resize itself to utilize 100% possible width
[01:27] <lotusleaf> shadowr3d: you might want to ask in #winehq
[01:28] <bill__> I have removed everything from the panel besides the taskbar. and still it is small
[01:28] <Generic> Xcalibur: one sec
[01:28] <Generic> Xcalibur: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:28] <mortenskyt> and you've tried moving it around? (the taskbar)
[01:28] <mortenskyt> you know, just drag it a bit to the left, a bit to the right
[01:29] <bill__> yes
[01:29] <kevyn> DOESNT WORK
[01:29] <bill__> all that does is move it....
[01:29] <mortenskyt> that's strange then
[01:29] <bill__> try it yourself...
[01:29] <kevyn> damn
[01:29] <mortenskyt> yes, I do, and when I release, my taskbar is 100% width of what's possible
[01:29] <Generic> is the little box below checked?
[01:29] <mortenskyt> while moving it, the icons in the taskbar resize to very small, but when I release it again, they go to the desired width
[01:30] <mortenskyt> you are talkin about each icon in the taskbar you want to have a certain width on and not the entire thing?
[01:30] <mortenskyt> 'cus if that's so, then I don't know if it's possible
[01:30] <bill__> yes, I am talking about the whole entire taskbar. I'd like it to be larger.
[01:31] <bill__> like you can in gnome
[01:31] <Xcalibur> trying it now
[01:31] <mortenskyt> hm, afraid I can't help you
[01:32] <mortenskyt> never tried the bar doesn't resize to full width automatically
[01:32] <bill__> I guess I'm worndering if there is some config file that I can edit...
[01:32] <bill__> there are not any options in the gui
[01:33] <Xcalibur> whats the command for me to edit my sources.list?
[01:33] <mortenskyt> the default behaviour should be to resize the taskbar to full width, so if it doesn't, then, well, sounds like a bug
[01:34] <mortenskyt> Xcalibur: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:36] <Xcalibur> thanx
[01:36] <mortenskyt> np
[01:43] <Admiral_Chicago> i keep getting this "xine was unable to find any audio devices" error in amarok
[01:43] <mortenskyt> audio works elsewhere?
[01:43] <Xcalibur> yay
[01:43] <Admiral_Chicago> err initialze any audio device
[01:43] <Xcalibur> it finally installed!
[01:43] <Admiral_Chicago> mortenskyt, yes
[01:43] <mortenskyt> hm, what about in kaffeine?
[01:43] <Admiral_Chicago> it gives an error tone when it does that
[01:44] <mortenskyt> anyway, in kaffeine, you can go to setting > xine engine...
[01:44] <mortenskyt> and you can go to audio and select an audiodriver
[01:44] <mortenskyt> I figure there's something similar in amarok
[01:44] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[01:45] <mortenskyt> it's probably because xine defaults to an audio-device that hasn't been configured correctly
[01:45] <mortenskyt> so play around with the driver, probablt alsa or oss that'll do the trick
[01:45] <Admiral_Chicago> no, i did that too and it didn't work
[01:46] <mortenskyt> hm
[01:46] <Admiral_Chicago> whatever i don't need sound that much right now
[01:46] <driz> hey guys i need to update amarok how would i go around and do that?
[01:47] <mortenskyt> yea ok
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> driz, the latest version should be...
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> !amarok
[01:47] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> add the key, add the fiile line to you sources.list
[01:47] <lotusleaf> driz: in Adept or Synaptic, whichever you use, just reload then look for new updates and select amarok and install
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> lotusleaf, might not be in the repos
[01:48] <driz> oh ok
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> its in the edgy repos
[01:48] <mortenskyt> driz: yea, or even easier, just go to console and sudo apt-get update
[01:48] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: it's there
[01:48] <mortenskyt> and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:48] <kevyn> is there existing a aesy way to istall progs on kubuntu
[01:48] <mortenskyt> if it doesn't update it, then you need newer repositories (or you have the newest version)
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> mortenskyt, apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:49] <mortenskyt> oh yea, in case of dependency mixup
[01:49] <kevyn> is there existing a aesy way to istall progs on kubuntu
[01:49] <lotusleaf> it's there and this time it's not in a specific amarok directory to be manually added to sources.list like it usually was
[01:49] <mortenskyt> kevyn: yes, you know if you have synaptic in?
[01:49] <kevyn> ih have synaptic
[01:49] <mortenskyt> then that's that (-: it's the far easiest way to install things imho
[01:49] <kevyn> yes but for istalling limefrost, ati driver
[01:50] <mortenskyt> oh, try easyubuntu
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> mortenskyt, command line ftw
[01:50] <mortenskyt> that has the ati-driver
[01:50] <kevyn> easy ubuntu???
[01:50] <mortenskyt> Admiral_Chicago: I like console too for some tasks, but you must admit, windows can help when there's a lot of info
[01:51] <mortenskyt> kevyn: yes
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> i know that, but I use the console for everything, including stuff that there is no GUI for
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> like converting .mp3 to .wav
[01:51] <kevyn> i cant install the driver ik cant use my second monitor
[01:51] <driz> mortenskyt: i need to enable multiverse alsio
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> i could use Adept but that takes WAYYYY too long
[01:51] <mortenskyt> 'problem' in ubuntu is that the filosophy of ubuntu states something like proprietary software be gone, and closed source in general
[01:52] <kevyn> i cant do dual screening only clone
[01:52] <mortenskyt> Admiral_Chicago: hehe, yes, it's good when you know the commands, but for most tasks I prefer windows as they're more intuitive
[01:52] <mortenskyt> kevyn: ye, I know the issue, fortunately the newest ati-drivers include xinerama so it can work pretty well on linux
[01:52] <mortenskyt> just go ahead and google for easyubuntu
[01:52] <mortenskyt> think it's easyubuntu.freecontrib.org, but not sure, google'll help
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !easyubuntu
[01:53] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> mortenskyt, now sound is working
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> guess i had to wait a little while
[01:53] <mortenskyt> fantastic (-:
[01:53] <driz> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. what does this mean?
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> type "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:54] <mortenskyt> hehe
[01:57] <kevyn> cant install easy ubuntu problems with redhat-cluster-suite
[01:58] <mortenskyt> wtf?!
[01:58] <kevyn> i dont know
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> no idea
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> ask in #easyubnutu
[01:58] <mortenskyt> you're not even supposed to install anything
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> err spell that right
[01:58] <mortenskyt> it's just a matter of unpacking and running
[01:58] <kevyn> vmd could not connect to cluster manager
[01:58] <kevyn> Consult syslog for more information
[01:59] <kevyn> invoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed.
[01:59] <kevyn> dpkg: fout bij afhandelen van clvm (--configure):
[01:59] <kevyn>  subproces post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 3 terug
[01:59] <kevyn> dpkg: vereistenproblemen verhinderen de configuratie van redhat-cluster-suite:
[01:59] <kevyn>  redhat-cluster-suite is afhankelijk van clvm; maar:
[01:59] <mortenskyt> hm, that's dutch
[01:59] <kevyn>   Pakket clvm is nog niet geconfigureerd.
[01:59] <kevyn> dpkg: fout bij afhandelen van redhat-cluster-suite (--configure):
[01:59] <kevyn>  vereistenproblemen - blijft ongeconfigureerd
[01:59] <kevyn> Fouten gevonden tijdens behandelen van:
[01:59] <kevyn>  clvm
[01:59] <kevyn>  redhat-cluster-suite
[01:59] <kevyn> yes i'm from belguim
[01:59] <mortenskyt> (-:
[02:00] <kevyn> i cant unpack it
[02:00] <mortenskyt> that early, hm
[02:00] <mortenskyt> using console or some gui like ark?
[02:00] <kevyn> i use the console
[02:00] <kevyn> i gonna try in ark
[02:01] <mortenskyt> shouldn't make a difference
[02:01] <kevyn> dun know
[02:01] <mortenskyt> you just followed instructions on the site of easyubuntu?
[02:01] <kevyn> i did
[02:01] <mortenskyt> where the step after downloading would be tar -zxf easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz
[02:01] <mortenskyt> ok
[02:01] <mortenskyt> and when doing that, the redhat-cluster-error comes?
[02:01] <kevyn> downloading its just cut and paste
[02:01] <Hawkwind> kevyn: Please use pastebin from now on
[02:02] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[02:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:02] <mortenskyt> anyway, if the error is at that early a stage, it's nothing to do with easyubuntu
[02:03] <kevyn> Copy paste the code below to get and run EasyUbuntu.
[02:03] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: instead of make install it's cleaninstall...right?
[02:03] <kevyn> is there a other way
[02:03] <mortenskyt> than their instructions?
[02:03] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: There is a make clean
[02:03] <faisal> hi all
[02:03] <mortenskyt> can't see what that should be, easyubuntu is not officially supported
[02:04] <mortenskyt> well, another solution would be automatix
[02:04] <kevyn> how cant i dual screening
[02:04] <Adore> Hello every body , i need help
[02:04] <mortenskyt> basically the same thing, just a bit.... hm.... more rough around the edges
[02:04] <kevyn> with windows your there in 2clicks
[02:04] <Adore> i want to open wav file in Ubuntu
[02:04] <Adore> how?
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Adore, open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install amarok"
[02:05] <Adore> Thank you very much
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> or actually, right click and go to open with amarok
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> it should be installed
[02:05] <mortenskyt> lol, that's heavy for a simple wav
[02:05] <kevyn> but with kubuntu
[02:05] <mortenskyt> why not just gmplayer or kaffeine?
[02:05] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: hmmm heard something about if I want to have a compiled file easier to uninstall later...I should so cleaninstall or something...thought it was you ;)
[02:05] <Adore> aha
[02:05] <Adore> i will try it now
[02:06] <Adore> Thanks for helping me
[02:06] <mortenskyt> on kubuntu/ubuntu it's pretty simple to, if you have a normal, working installation, it should be a matter of downloading easyubuntu and two more clicks away ati-drivers would be
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Adore, no problem
[02:06] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: You mean checkinstall ?
[02:06] <kevyn> but i Cant use easy ubuntu
[02:06] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: heheh that's it....glad I asked you...
[02:07] <kevyn> that a problrm
[02:07] <Hawkwind> !checkinstall
[02:07] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[02:07] <mortenskyt> indeed
[02:07] <mortenskyt> it sounds a lot like your installation is rather messed up
[02:07] <mortenskyt> anyway, as I said, you can go for the more rough-around-the-edges way called "automatix"
[02:07] <kevyn> i'm gonna reinstall kubuntu
[02:08] <mortenskyt> good idea
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> goh #ubuntu is crazy
[02:08] <kevyn> ist gonna be a verry easy way
[02:08] <otaku-san> #ubuntu
[02:08] <mortenskyt> easyubuntu is, automatix is too, but my experience in it hasn't been all great
[02:09] <kevyn> k see you later gonna install kubuntu again
[02:09] <mortenskyt> say you take 10 apps in automatix, only 7 or so will actually end up being installed and working afterwards
[02:09] <mortenskyt> easyubuntu seems to work always
[02:09] <kevyn> but not with my workstationb
[02:09] <shadowr3d> help i need help installing windows media player 11 beta 2 on kubuntu ive already downloaded it to the desktop
[02:09] <mortenskyt> enjoy
[02:10] <mortenskyt> shadowr3d: that's not possible
[02:10] <mortenskyt> what you need that for anyway?
[02:10] <shadowr3d> why not
[02:10] <shadowr3d> so i can have it
[02:10] <mortenskyt> it's microsoft-land, microsoft and linux are competitors
[02:10] <shadowr3d> i know
[02:10] <lotusleaf> some people need their spyware fix
[02:10] <mortenskyt> so microsoft does what it can to make incompatible software
[02:10] <shadowr3d> but cant i run under wine?
[02:10] <mortenskyt> best thing I can suggest is install w32codecs-pack
[02:11] <shadowr3d> whats that
[02:11] <lotusleaf> shadowr3d: have you tried #winehq that's the wine channel
[02:11] <mortenskyt> that'll make your system capable of playing non-drm wmp9-files
[02:11] <shadowr3d> o yeah how do you get that
[02:11] <otaku-san> I think the latest windows media player thats not *garbage* is like 10...
[02:12] <mortenskyt> easiest way is to follow the instructions for installing easyubuntu and select whatever codecs it has in it
[02:12] <mortenskyt> get it here: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[02:12] <shadowr3d> me right?
[02:12] <mortenskyt> yes
[02:12] <shadowr3d> ok
[02:12] <mortenskyt> !easyubuntu
[02:12] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:12] <shadowr3d> ill try it
[02:12] <mortenskyt> (-:
[02:13] <shadowr3d> what do you mean use at your own risk?
[02:13] <proudfoot__> !flash
[02:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:13] <mortenskyt> easyubuntu isn't officially supported
[02:13] <otaku-san> shadowr3d: it's good to do what morenskyt said because it enables you to play the same things that WMP plays but on Linux apps
[02:13] <shadowr3d> so should i get that easyubuntu or not?
[02:14] <mortenskyt> indeed you should get easyubuntu for windows media player
[02:14] <shadowr3d> ?ok im lost now
[02:14] <mortenskyt> I never had easyubuntu fail on me, it's pretty failsafe
[02:14] <shadowr3d> ok ill go get it
[02:14] <mortenskyt> (-:
[02:15] <shadowr3d> i dont know what to do at easyubuntu
[02:16] <mortenskyt> \-: you're pretty new to linux, no?
[02:16] <mortenskyt> aight, for you:
[02:16] <mortenskyt> fire up the konsole, do this by hitting alt + f2 and type "konsole" and hit enter
[02:16] <shadowr3d> ive been using it for about for 4 months
[02:17] <mortenskyt> in the console type, one line at a time, whatever it says in the first orange box on the http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[02:17] <mortenskyt> oki
[02:17] <shadowr3d> ok
[02:17] <mortenskyt> once you did all that in the box, easyubuntu should appear
[02:17] <shadowr3d> ill try
[02:17] <shadowr3d> where will it appear?
[02:17] <mortenskyt> easyubuntu?
[02:17] <shadowr3d> yes
[02:18] <mortenskyt> as a window in the middle of your screen, don't worry, you won't miss it
[02:18] <shadowr3d> ok
[02:18] <shadowr3d> here i go
[02:18] <mortenskyt> o, and don't be scared, the output it'll show int the console will be quite scary
[02:18] <mortenskyt> it'll probably say a lot of errors, just ignore them, they don't mean anything, when it says it's done, it's done
[02:19] <mortenskyt> anyway, g'night, (it's 2:20 am here), see ya'll
[02:19] <shadowr3d> um ok help me here i copied and pasted into konsole but there are three boxes
[02:20] <Adore> Shall i ask about the pest softwear fot Ubuntu to send and recive e-mails for windows live beta ? please i need help
[02:20] <Adore> softwere*
[02:21] <Adore> software*
[02:21] <Adore> sorry
[02:21] <lotusleaf> pest software for windows live? ;)
[02:21] <reeed> ;)
[02:21] <Adore> it's on msn
[02:21] <Adore> live beta
[02:21] <lotusleaf> what a beautiful typo
[02:21] <Adore> sorry
[02:21] <Adore> i am from egypt
[02:22] <Adore> i just rty
[02:22] <Adore> try*
[02:22] <lotusleaf> no, thank you!
[02:22] <Adore> Shall you help me
[02:22] <Adore> i can't open my e-mail here
[02:22] <lotusleaf> Adore: you might ask in one of the windows related channels, or #winehq
[02:22] <Adore> in ubuntu
[02:23] <Adore> thank you
[02:23] <Adore> i will go
[02:23] <lotusleaf> Adore: yw
[02:23] <|brad|> so does anyone have a good up to date howto for compiz/xgl on a nvidia/amd64 system? i think ive used everyone that ive found and havent got it to work
[02:43] <Phoenix92x> hiya, how does one add programs to the k start menu?
[02:43] <Phoenix92x> I see the option for "add / remove programs" but I seem to think that has to do with adept
[02:44] <Hawkwind> Phoenix92x: kmenuedit
[02:44] <Phoenix92x> thank you
[02:49] <otaku-san> hey n00b question but how do you check what processes are running
[02:51] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: ps aux  or top
[02:51] <Xcalibur> yo
[02:51] <Xcalibur> how do i enable w32codecs
[02:52] <Xcalibur> ?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[02:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:52] <gnomefreak> Xcalibur: ^^^
[02:54] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: how would I kill one of these processes?
[02:55] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: kill <pid#>
[02:55] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: the <pid> is that the process followed by a # or is it and < the process and an # then a >?
[02:57] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Example:  kill 1234
[02:57] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Or, killall gedit
[02:57] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: killall will kill *all* processes of gedit in that example of course
[02:57] <AZ_AS> there a way to test sound in Kubuntu that's running as a virtual machine?
[02:58] <AZ_AS> I think I may have configured VMWare to let it use my sound card but I want to test and make sure
[02:58] <otaku-san> Yeah it killed it!
[03:00] <AZ_AS> never mind, just opened up KMix, and it works :)
[03:05] <jefflee> Algum brasileiro neste canal?
[03:05] <Hawkwind> !br
[03:05] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:06] <jefflee> thanks
[03:06] <charims> hi everyone, i am trying to make an install, but i get an error, please look at this. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22397
[03:09] <Hawkwind> Anyone here know how to start Crossover Office once it's installed via a deb package ?
[03:10] <Xcalibur> i have it
[03:10] <Hawkwind> charims: What are you compiling, and why are you compiling ?
[03:10] <Xcalibur> and it was a .sh
[03:10] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: This is installed from a deb.  I just need to know how to start it
[03:10] <Xcalibur> if it's not in the K menu, I'm not sure, rsorry
[03:10] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: I don't use KDE
[03:11] <Xcalibur> o
[03:11] <Xcalibur> it what you use then
[03:11] <Xcalibur> xfce
[03:11] <Xcalibur> gnome
[03:11] <Xcalibur> ?
[03:11] <Hawkwind> LOL thankfully, no.  I use E17
[03:12] <Xcalibur> I have never used, or seen, lol
[03:12] <charims> Hawkwind: an alsa thing crimsun told me to compile... to fix my sound
[03:12] <charims> hawkwind: alsa-driver-1.0.12rc1
[03:13] <betty> I have a question
[03:13] <crimsun> 1.0.13rc1, you mean?
[03:13] <driz> hello i need to uinstall a prinmter
[03:13] <driz> ?
[03:13] <betty> Why dosen't Katapult work?
[03:13] <charims> crimsun: oops, yes
[03:13] <betty> I pressed alt+space and nothing happens
[03:13] <charims> hawkwind: correction thats 1.0.13rc1
[03:14] <charims> crimsun: hello btw
[03:14] <Hawkwind> charims: I'll let crimsun help you since you and he were working on this earlier
[03:14] <driz> install a printer?
[03:14] <charims> crimsun: can u help me with that, for some reason it won't make an install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22397
[03:14] <crimsun> charims: I'm fairly busy atm but will return in ~30 mins
[03:14] <charims> crimsun: ok, ty
[03:15] <betty> Does anyone know why Katapult dosen't work?
[03:16] <AZ_AS> uh oh...any chance I can get KDM back? since the login screen looks different now
[03:18] <Hawkwind> betty: Doesn't work is a pretty vague phrase.  Mind stating your problem/issue and be as specific as possible
[03:21] <betty> When I press ALT+Space nothing happens
[03:25] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> betty: Is Katapult running?
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> betty: You can check with either KSysGuard or by running 'ps aux | grep katapult'
[03:30] <charims> how to set password for super user?
[03:31] <Hawkwind> sudo passwd
[03:32] <charims> thanks hawkwind
[03:32] <pierreth> i am unable to open mailto links
[03:32] <pierreth> how can i fix this?
[03:35] <driz> hey guys i need help installing a printer Brother HL-1440... but i have no idea where to start?
[03:36] <Hawkwind> driz: systemsettings -> Printers
[03:37] <driz> Hawkwind: is it going to be an easy install.
[03:37] <Hawkwind> driz: Couldn't tell you.  I use Epson printers
[03:38] <driz> oh ok
[03:39] <charims> hey, i want to test something, i don't know if it works in kopete, will someone jsut type my name in a message? Thankyou
[03:40] <lters> charims: test
[03:40] <Hawkwind> charims: No!
[03:41] <charims> thankyou :) wanted to see if it would highlight it in kopete
[03:45] <[-KaSatKa-] > Does anyone know where I can find good Panel Background Images?
[03:45] <ubuntu> !grub
[03:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:45] <ubuntu> gah
[03:46] <ubuntu> !gpm
[03:46] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB
[03:46] <ubuntu> !apt-get
[03:46] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:46] <Kr4t05> !botabuse
[03:46] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan_> [-KaSatKa-] : http://kde-look.org has some.
[03:47] <[-KaSatKa-] > CheeseBurgerMan_: Under what section?
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan_> [-KaSatKa-] : Don't remember, let me have a look.
[03:47] <ubuntu> Kr4t05: i'm trying to figure out how to unlock the universe repo, from a text editor
[03:47] <Hawkwind> !repos
[03:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:47] <ubuntu> what's the file name?
[03:47] <we6jbo> Anyone hear about the man that lived til he was 999 years of age?
[03:48] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan_> [-KaSatKa-] : Apparently most of them are in 'other'
[03:48] <ubuntu> Hawkwind: thanks
[03:48] <[-KaSatKa-] > CheeseBurgerMan_: Thanks alot
[03:48] <Haz> Hey, I was wondering: How do you go about changing your personal message for MSN? Thanks in advance.
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan_> [-KaSatKa-] : You're welcome. :)
[03:48] <Hawkwind> Haz: Ummm, you mean on Gaim or something ?
[03:49] <Haz> er
[03:49] <Haz> Kopete*
[03:49] <Haz> sorry
[03:49] <Hawkwind> we6jbo: Probably the wrong channel for that
[03:49] <Haz> forgot to include that xD
[03:49] <Hawkwind> Haz: Ah don't know.  I don't use kopete
[03:49] <nonickname> .. i just unlocked the universe repo, but still no gpm
[03:49] <pierreth> my mailto: urls are not working
[03:49] <Haz> kay, thanks anyway :D
[03:49] <Hawkwind> nonickname: Did you do sudo apt-get update ?
[03:49] <pierreth> what can I do?
[03:49] <nonickname> Hawkwind: didn't think about that. one sec..
[03:49] <driz> HAHAH yes wow that was an easy install for my printer now to set up a network between my computers... How would I start that?
[03:50] <Hawkwind> nonickname: You always have to do that after enabling a new repo so you can download the lists
[03:50] <nonickname> ahh, woot, mouse support
[03:50] <Hawkwind> driz: Samba
[03:50] <lters> driz: 2 linux boxes?
[03:51] <driz> lters: yes
[03:51] <AZ_AS> anyone got a moment here to help me out with getting Kubuntu to look like it did before I stupidly quit in the middle of KDM, something I didn't want to remove (happened when I was trying to uninstall Nicotine and the associated python files with it)
[03:52] <lters> driz: just to share files? use nfs. sudo vi /etc/exports
[03:52] <AZ_AS> adept's gone, applets are gone
[03:52] <lters> driz: than exportfs -r to reread the shares there.
[03:53] <lters> AZ_AS: sudo apt-get --purge kdm;apt-get install kdm
[03:53] <lters> AZ_AS: oops, sudo after the ;
[03:53] <AZ_AS> purge kdm first and then reinstall it?
[03:53] <AZ_AS> okie dokie, gonna try that
[03:53] <lters> that is what I would do (debian for me tho, but same diff)
[03:53] <driz> lters: why not samba I want to share my printers fileshare and stuff like music and such
[03:54] <driz> !samba
[03:54] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:54] <lters> driz: nfs is super simple.
[03:54] <lters> no user/pass needed.
[03:54] <lters> just an ip.
[03:54] <driz> is it graphical also
[03:54] <AZ_AS> lters, said "invalid operation kdm"
[03:55] <lters> u just get another mounted folder.
[03:55] <lters> AZ_AS: sudo apt-get --purge remove kdm
[03:55] <driz> ok then i'll try the nfs thing and use CUSP for the printing
[03:55] <[-KaSatKa-] > I downloaded and installed kbfx, how do I use it?
[03:55] <Hawkwind> driz: You can view it in konqueror just like a regular directory
[03:56] <driz> Hawkwind Samba
[03:56] <driz> >?
[03:56] <AZ_AS> ok, it's asking me if I wish to stop the kdm daemon...yes or no?
[03:56] <Hawkwind> driz: I thought you had a Windows box and a Linux box, that's why I stated Samba
[03:56] <lters> driz: in /etc/exports you need one line like this: /home/myshare 10.1.1.1(rw,sync)
[03:56] <Hawkwind> AZ_AS: If you do, it'll kill KDE
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> [-KaSatKa-] : Right click on your panel, click on "add applet", and add the kbfx applet.
[03:56] <Generic> what's kbfx? I forget
[03:57] <lters> AZ_AS:  do ALT+TRL+F1 to get a console prompt
[03:57] <Hawkwind> Generic: KDE menu stuff
[03:57] <Generic> ah
[03:57] <Generic> descriptive!
[03:57] <[-KaSatKa-] > CheeseBurgerMan_: Ahh, yes. Thanks again :D
[03:57] <Hawkwind> Generic: apt-cache search kbfx and read it yourself then
[03:57] <AZ_AS> ok, lters and then restore kdm from there?
[03:58] <Generic> HA
[03:58] <lters> AZ_AS: do the remove and than the reinstall.
[03:58] <lters> AZ_AS: than do the /etc/init.d/kdm start if it is not done for you.
[03:59] <icet> help: how to disable automatic login (without using X)
[03:59] <driz> I'm lost I odnt know how to use vi
[03:59] <lters> Generic: apt-cache show kbfx
[03:59] <AZ_AS> said it's unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)
[04:00] <Hawkwind> driz: i for insert
[04:00] <lters> diz: sudo -s
[04:00] <Hawkwind> driz: ESC :wq  to quit and save
[04:00] <lters> Hawkwind: vi is awesome.
[04:00] <Hawkwind> lters: Of course it is
[04:01] <driz> oh man
[04:01] <driz> OK how do i learn vi
[04:01] <icet> I'm a newbie at vi myself. Basically, you have a command mode and a edit mode
[04:01] <driz> ?
[04:01] <Hawkwind> driz: http://www.jess2.net/doc/vicmd.png
[04:01] <Hawkwind> driz: Print it with your newly installed printer
[04:01] <icet> at vi, if you type, say, "o", you insert aline and enter edit mode
[04:02] <icet> now next "o" or any other letter you type will be the real letter o
[04:02] <icet> to exit edit mode, type ESC
[04:02] <icet> to edit current cursor position, use "a"
[04:02] <lters> tricky part is understanding that vi has a "command bar" at the bottom. and u need ESC than : to enter cmds.
[04:02] <Hawkwind> icet: Look at the URL I just gave
[04:03] <driz> Hawkwind: I will but i need the network thing first and for most i need to access the music on my other computer
[04:03] <Hawkwind> icet: It explains it all for him
[04:03] <Hawkwind> driz: No you don't
[04:03] <Hawkwind> driz: Print that FIRST so you know how to use vi to setup NFS
[04:03] <driz> lol yes i do
[04:03] <icet> awsome page :-)
[04:03] <charims> crimsun: are you still busy?
[04:03] <icet> bump-help: how to disable automatic login (without using X)
[04:04] <Hawkwind> To get NFS setup you need to know how to use vi.  Until you learn that, you're pretty much screwed
[04:04] <Haz> Hey, I was wondering: How do you go about changing your personal message for MSN in Kopete? Thanks in advance :D
[04:04] <crimsun> charims: yes, for about 10 more mins
[04:04] <charims> crimsun: kk :)
[04:04] <Hawkwind> icet: As in you want to boot to CLI instead of GUI ?
[04:05] <icet> as in I can't login to kde anymore because gnome is my default session :-)
[04:05] <[-KaSatKa-] > How can I add one of those monitor things that show you like cpu, RAM, usage, etc?
[04:05] <Hawkwind> icet: Read this post on my forums:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=556.0
[04:05] <Haz> [-KaSatKa-] , to the desktop?
[04:05] <Hawkwind> [-KaSatKa-] : sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[04:05] <Haz> meh
[04:05] <Haz> :p
[04:05] <Hawkwind> [-KaSatKa-] : Or install superkaramba
[04:06] <lters> [-KaSatKa-] : or gdesklets or use the kde ones.
[04:07] <[-KaSatKa-] > Thanks guys
[04:07] <Hawkwind> superkaramba being the kde ones :P
[04:07] <driz> This is frustating firefox keeps crashing this is the second time
[04:07] <lters> no
[04:07] <Hawkwind> lters: Ummm, yes it is
[04:07] <lters> ok ;)
[04:07] <Hawkwind> !superkaramba
[04:07] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[04:08] <Hawkwind> !gkrellm
[04:08] <ubotu> gkrellm: multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] . In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 388 kB, installed size 948 kB
[04:08] <lters> there is the kde performance thingy too.
[04:08] <skavenge>  yeah, superkaramba ;)
[04:08] <lters> and an add on applet for the task bar..
[04:08] <AZ_AS> lters, tried what you suggested but kept getting an error message...thinking I'll delete this virtual machine and create a new one with Kubuntu and learn to be more careful next time :p
[04:08] <Hawkwind> lters: Yeah, it's called superkaramba
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Hah
[04:09] <lters> AZ_AS: an error?
[04:09] <AZ_AS> yup
[04:09] <lters> are u root?
[04:09] <lters> sudo -s
[04:09] <AZ_AS> I've already deleted it :/ so too late to fix it
[04:09] <AZ_AS> that's how I get into root?
[04:09] <icet> thanks for the help, this will take a while
[04:10] <AZ_AS> by typing sudo -s?
[04:10] <lters> sure
[04:10] <lters> or su -
[04:10] <skavenge> sudo -i is the reccomended way
[04:10] <skavenge> 10 ways to skin a cat though
[04:10] <lters> AZ_AS: if all else fails ;) dpkg --force-all --purge kdm than start over.
[04:10] <AZ_AS> why's that, skavenge? I mean, sudo -i being the recommended way?
[04:11] <AZ_AS> ok, sweet...ty :)
[04:11] <driz> wow interesting vi tutorial thing cool
[04:11] <lters> AZ_AS: sudo is very powerful
[04:11] <skavenge> AZ_AS: its consider the 'safest', there's info about the different instances of root on the wiki if your interested in reading up, or check the !root bang
[04:12] <fernando> hi! I just bought an enclosure, usb, for hdd. but I plug it in with a partitioned hard drive in it and nothing happens. How do I mount it_
[04:12] <lters> and safer( you can block who has sudo powers ) visudo
[04:12] <AZ_AS> sure, can read about it on the wiki...I've got time, going to be reinstalling kubuntu on this virtual machine but at least I know what to do in the future :p
[04:15] <driz> ok i printed the vi thing now NFS please :-)
[04:15] <Hawkwind> !nfs
[04:15] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:15] <driz> thank you
[04:15] <AZ_AS> thanks for your help, lters :)
[04:16] <nonickname> =/
[04:16] <soulrider> does anyone know of a program that can tell me my processor temperature?
[04:16] <nonickname> i'm about to unmount my root partition
[04:16] <Hawkwind> soulrider: gkrellm can
[04:17] <Hawkwind> soulrider: As can superkaramba
[04:17] <skavenge> just need the right module/plugin
[04:17] <soulrider> yea, i was using superkaramba for other stuff
[04:17] <nnn0> i like conky
[04:18] <nnn0> conky is pretty neat
[04:18] <Hawkwind> soulrider: With gkrellm you don't need anything.  Just set it up in Preferences
[04:18] <nonickname> what if grub is on my linux partition and my mbr?
[04:18] <soulrider> im downloading it right now
[04:18] <crimsun> charims: pong. What's up?
[04:19] <nonickname> nvm
[04:19] <nnn0> soulrider: http://images.google.com/images?q=conky :D
[04:19] <charims> crimsun: i can't seem to make the install, sudo make ran fine, but sudo make install won't, here's the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22397
[04:20] <nnn0> conky is very easy to configure
[04:20] <Phoenix92x> hi, running dapper on a Dell Latitude D610 (laptop) with a Radeon X300, I think I have the 3d drivers installed right but I can't tell, is there some sort of way I can test and see if they're functioning properly?
[04:20] <soulrider> i need to learn how to make everything transparent
[04:20] <soulrider> i love the ye candy :P
[04:21] <nnn0> than you will love conky :D
[04:21] <juaco> name
[04:21] <Hawkwind> soulrider: gkrellm -> themes -> invisible
[04:21] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Simple as that :P
[04:22] <soulrider> i meant for every app
[04:22] <soulrider> i played witht he kde settings a bit
[04:22] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Not every app can do transparency though
[04:22] <soulrider> but not everything would become transparent
[04:22] <soulrider> not even everything in the kicker
[04:22] <crimsun> charims: did you ./configure [..]  first?
[04:22] <Hawkwind> For true transparency, you need xcompmgr and transset
[04:22] <driz> !paste
[04:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:23] <charims> crimsun: no, didn't know i had to, run the command jsut like that?
[04:23] <soulrider> Hawkwind: gkrellm wont show temp :/
[04:24] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Set it up first and it will
[04:24] <crimsun> charims: which sound chipset do you have?
[04:24] <nnn0> soulrider: maybe you don't have a termometer ?
[04:24] <[-KaSatKa-] > Is there a way to remove that thing that comes up with the buttefly when you highlight the kbfx menu?
[04:24] <soulrider> :/
[04:24] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Does your system have a thermometer in it for it ?
[04:24] <soulrider> i was assuming i had one
[04:24] <soulrider> since its a new comp
[04:24] <nnn0> soulrider: how old is this system ?
[04:24] <charims> crimsun: umm, Nvidia Ck8
[04:24] <nnn0> ah okey - then it should have it
[04:25] <skavenge> [-KaSatKa-] : well if you have another icon you can change it
[04:25] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Then set it up in gkrellm
[04:25] <Hawkwind> soulrider: http://seerofsouls.com/screenshots/Hawkwind12.png
[04:25] <soulrider> i got it less than a month ago
[04:25] <crimsun> charims: start over. Erase the current ~/alsadriver you have, unextract it, change into that directory, then execute ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-cards=intel8x0 --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build && make && sudo make install
[04:25] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Configuration -> Builtins -> Sensors
[04:25] <driz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22401--. can someone please check these errors out
[04:25] <charims> crimsun: kk, glad i didn't delete the file...
[04:25] <Hawkwind> soulrider: By default it's not on.  You have to set it up
[04:26] <obf213> !gksudo
[04:26] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[04:26] <nnn0> you mean kdesu ?
[04:27] <nnn0> !kdesu
[04:27] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:27] <soulrider> Hawkwind: i like how hte tyransparency is set up on your system
[04:27] <soulrider> i dont like the color theme though :P
[04:27] <charims> crimsun: The file /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/include/linux/version.h does not exist. Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[04:28] <charims> crimsun: should i download the kernel sources?
[04:28] <crimsun> charims: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:28] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Thanks.  I use a different wm though :P
[04:30] <charims> crimsun: thanks, its doing it now
[04:31] <soulrider> wm ?
[04:31] <skavenge> window manager
[04:32] <soulrider> ah
[04:32] <skavenge> Hawkwind uses e17 instead of kde
[04:32] <charims> crimsun: its done, must i restart my system
[04:32] <soulrider> is that the one hats supposed to be really ncie adn lightwheigh ?
[04:32] <skavenge> ask him ;)
[04:38] <crimsun> out for a bit.
[04:40] <Kr4t05> Ok...
[04:40] <Kr4t05> Question.
[04:41] <Kr4t05> I have a shell script that calls the command lndir. Would that be the equivalant of ln -s?
[04:45] <Kr4t05> Bah...
[04:45] <Kr4t05> Help?
[04:51] <charims> crimsun: ping
[04:59] <driz> I dont know how to start setting up this network now
[04:59] <driz> ?
[05:00] <[-KaSatKa-] > how can i open WINE to uninstall a program?
[05:00] <digivore> Is there an alternative to 'Wireless Assistant'   in Kubuntu?
[05:00] <midspeed> hi everybody, i need help!!! NOW!!!, ha ha ha, my question is: how do i change the permission of a folder in kubuntu, because i mounted another hard drive and i need to see whats inside
[05:01] <[-KaSatKa-] > chmod 777
[05:01] <[-KaSatKa-] > like "sudo chmod 777 /home/me/Desktop/test
[05:02] <midspeed> ORIGATO! MR ROBATO! jk, thanks KaSatKa
[05:02] <[-KaSatKa-] > Haha, no problem
[05:05] <japke> gebruikt m'n nederlands of engels?
[05:05] <Hawkwind> !de
[05:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:05] <Hawkwind> Ermmm
[05:05] <Hawkwind> !nl
[05:05] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[05:12] <Ashex> For some reason, there's a hotkey applet controlling my volume keys
[05:12] <Ashex> and it's doing a terrible job
[05:13] <Ashex> anyone know what the name of this mysterious hotkey utility is in edgy eft?
[05:14] <shriram> hello everybody! i'm new to kubuntu. doesn't it support reiserfs?
[05:19] <timthelion> I have 3 computers.  right now. one is set up with fetchmail.  is there a way to make that one serve as though it were a pop server, those emails wich it downloads to the other 2 computers?
[05:26] <phisrow> Greetings all. I'm new to testing; but want to give it a try. I'm looking for information on submitting the most useful bug reports possible.
[05:27] <phisrow> Are there guides out there, ideally specific to this distributition, about using gdb and other such tools, building packages with symbols, and so on?
[05:28] <dein|enslaved> not sure phisrow
[05:29] <dein|enslaved> ask later when there is more activity k?
[05:29] <skavenge> edgy would be the version you'd want to be doing that with, and thier channel is #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <TehKewl1> something screwed up in my wireless card setup, now as soon as I plug it in, everything goes wrong
[05:29] <TehKewl1> it works fine with a live CD
[05:29] <phisrow> Thanks Dein|enslaved and Skavenge. I'll try over there.
[05:29] <TehKewl1> and it worked yesterday up until when I got the router to actually work
[05:31] <TehKewl1> how do I set the network settings back?
[05:31] <TehKewl1> wow, the viruses are flocking into windows
[05:33] <TehKewl1> hurry I don't think AVG will hold up for long
[05:38] <Phoenix92x> hi, I need some help badly, I was trying to get the ATI (fglrx) driver working on my install of dapper drake on a Dell Latitude D610 and I managed to screw it up pretty badly. I'm having trouble getting it to boot in the usual visual way what with the blue gears and all. I can get into recovery mode (where I am now).
[05:38] <Phoenix92x> After my first attempt at switching to fglrx the visuals were all overlapping and fractured, the fonts were blurry, and the res was wrong (max it gave was 1200 x 1024, LCD on the machine needs 1400x1050 or it gets screwy.)
[05:39] <Phoenix92x> I don't quite know what to do or where to begin with fixing it
[05:39] <Phoenix92x> xorg was never my strong point
[05:40] <SpAwN> !ati
[05:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:40] <Phoenix92x> I need X working and useable again way more than I need the ATI drivers working
[05:41] <JKnife> what is the command to start KDE from console?
[05:41] <Phoenix92x> I'm freaked and I need this machine to work properly tomorrow
[05:41] <Hawkwind> JKnife: startx
[05:41] <JKnife> hi Hawkwind
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Phoenix92x: Is there a backup copy of your xorg.conf in /etc/X11/  ?
[05:41] <Jucato> Hawkwind:  or "sudo /etc/init.d/kmd start"?
[05:41] <SpAwN> Phoenix92x, u can try to change the xorg.conf to a gneric driver
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Or that :P
[05:41] <Jucato> s/kmd/kdm
[05:41] <SpAwN> Phoenix92x, like vesa
[05:41] <Phoenix92x> Hawkwind: what would it be labled? the backup I mean? I never made one, I hadnt messed with xorg till this day
[05:41] <Jucato> sorry, that was supposed to be "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[05:41] <alexicon> hrmm for some reason my firefox extensions have stopped working
[05:42] <Phoenix92x> god oh god I should not have attempted this on my work machine..
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Phoenix92x: Look in /etc/X11 and see
[05:42] <JKnife> ... i mean like for XFCE4 you have startxfce4 and gnome you have gnome-session
[05:42] <SpAwN> Phoenix92x, probly somthing like xorg.conf~ or xorg.conf.backup
[05:42] <alexicon> i have a dl version of firefox 1.5.0.6 installed in my home dir
[05:42] <Hawkwind> JKnife: startkde ?
[05:42] <JKnife> so no version number after it.. ok
[05:42] <JKnife> thanks
[05:42] <alexicon> when i boot into suse the extensions work fine, but not in kbunutu anymore
[05:42] <Phoenix92x> I have 8 files with xorg\
[05:42] <Hawkwind> alexicon: Why not just sudo apt-get install firefox  and use the version Kubuntu gives you ?
[05:42] <Phoenix92x> xorg.conf
[05:43] <Hawkwind> Phoenix92x: Don't paste them all here
[05:43] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:43] <Hawkwind> Phoenix92x: Look for one that says -old or .old or something similar
[05:43] <alexicon> the version of firefox apt gives me doesnt allow me to middle click links into the page directly
[05:43] <Phoenix92x> I was just going to give the filenames
[05:43] <alexicon> i always have to use the address bar and that drives me crazy
[05:43] <Hawkwind> alexicon: Strange...it does here
[05:43] <alexicon> D:
[05:43] <Phoenix92x> are filenames ok?
[05:43] <alexicon> this is the second install of kubuntu ive had and the firefox wont cooperate
[05:43] <Hawkwind> Phoenix92x: Just tell us...don't paste...do you have an xorg.conf-old or something similar ?
[05:43] <Jucato> alexicon: what do you mean? what happens when you middle click on links?
[05:44] <alexicon> no i mean if you highlight a link in irc, then middle click anywhere on the browser to load the page in that tab
[05:44] <Phoenix92x> xorg.conf.orginal-0
[05:44] <Phoenix92x> I didnt make it though, I have no idea what did lol
[05:44] <Jucato> alexicon: is Firefox set as the default browser?
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Phoenix92x: sudo cp -a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original-0 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:45] <alexicon> yeah Jucato
[05:45] <Jucato> hm...
[05:45] <Phoenix92x> Hawkwind: ok, I really hope this works
[05:45] <Hawkwind> Phoenix92x: You can always do:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and that will create a new xorg.conf for you
[05:46] <alexicon> ah and my theme stopped working in this firefox
[05:47] <Jucato> what version of firefox is installed in SUSE?
[05:47] <larson9999> am i crazy or does evolution not let you drag and drop email from your inbox to other folders?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> You really should stick with what the distro gives you.  Compiling things on a deb based distro is never really a good thing
[05:47] <alexicon> but it all works in suse
[05:47] <alexicon> Jucato: its a shared home dir
[05:47] <alexicon> same installation
[05:47] <alexicon> maybe suse pwnd it or something
[05:47] <Phoenix92x> Write Default Files section to configuration file?
[05:47] <Jucato> alexicon: oh so you're not using SUSE version of Firefox either?
[05:47] <Phoenix92x> I'm unfamiliar with what that's asking
[05:47] <alexicon> nope
[05:47] <Hawkwind> Phoenix92x: Yes
[05:47] <alexicon> although i didnt chose that Jucato
[05:48] <alexicon> it just found my firefox and started to use it
[05:48] <Jucato> ah...
[05:48] <larson9999> i almost never use the 'distro' version of ff
[05:48] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Shame on you
[05:48] <alexicon> nah distro doesnt update ff fast enough
[05:48] <Hawkwind> Though I just build deb packages of the stuff I want
[05:48] <larson9999> same with openoffice
[05:48] <Jucato> hm... it did update FF fast this time
[05:48] <Hawkwind> alexicon: Not always true.  Even if they don't, build your own
[05:49] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hah not this last time
[05:49] <alexicon> good point Hawkwind :)
[05:49] <Hawkwind> Jucato: FF is still at 1.5.0.5 currently in Dapper.  Latest version available is 1.5.0.6
[05:49] <Jucato> well, at least until 1.5.0.4.. :-D
[05:49] <larson9999> Hawkwind: yeah, that's best.  does checkinstall qualify as building your own?  or should i learn how to really build my own?
[05:49] <Hawkwind> Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww
[05:49] <Jucato> coz they're too busy doing Edgy stuff...
[05:49] <Hawkwind> I wouldn't tell my worst enemy to use checkinstall
[05:49] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Learn to build your own.  It's damn easy
[05:49] <Jucato> lol...
[05:49] <alexicon> hrm maybe i'll just reinstall ff, i think suse may have grabbed something for itself
[05:49] <larson9999> guess i'll cross that off my list
[05:50] <Jucato> Hawkwind is saying the complete opposite of what's being taught in #ubuntu-classroom :-D
[05:50] <Hawkwind> larson9999: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[05:50] <Hawkwind> Jucato: LOL.  Sad that they teach new users to use an app that can, has, and will destroy a system
[05:50] <Jucato> about the advantage of using checkinstall vs make install...
[05:51] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Well sure...checkinstall over make install.  But don't do either.  Build stuff properly and you won't use either
[05:51] <Jucato> Hawkwind: what should be used then?
[05:51] <Jucato> btw, they're also teaching about building from deb-src
[05:51] <Hawkwind> Jucato: The URL I just pasted
[05:51] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Building from deb-src is even better
[05:51] <bmw> Hi!  Got a serious problem.  Anyone up for it?
[05:51] <Hawkwind> Jucato: The URL I pasted above is a quick and easy way for most all users to build a deb package
[05:52] <Hawkwind> bmw: Just ask
[05:52] <Jucato> Hawkwind: only if the version that you want to build is the one in the repositorioes
[05:52] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Huh ?
[05:52] <larson9999> Hawkwind: athat does look perty easy
[05:52] <Jucato> what if you're building a version of a package that's not included in the repositories yet?
[05:52] <Hawkwind> Jucato: You use deb-src to get the source of an app, then you can build a newer version from that
[05:52] <Hawkwind> Jucato: It's complicated to explain if you don't know how to build packages really
[05:53] <Jucato> :-p
[05:53] <bmw> Kewl. I did an update from within breezy to dapper.  Working fine until a reboot and then it says it can't fined the filesystem  I get an ERROR 17 from the GRUB installer.  Ideas?
[05:53] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Gotta remember, I've been building for 3+ years...though it was rpms.  But the process is basically the same
[05:53] <Jucato> All I know is checkinstall or build-dep then apt-get -b :-D
[05:53] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Read the URL I posted.  You too can build debs very easily :)
[05:54] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Without using either of those 3 commands you just listed
[05:54] <Jucato> I'll read it after the "class". it's about to start in a few minutes...
[05:54] <Jucato> btw, I think it was mentioned in the class that you can use apt-get build-dep and -b to build from Debian repositories...
[05:54] <Jucato> safely...
[05:55] <Hawkwind> Majority of the times, just not always
[05:59] <driz> anyone please network help?
[05:59] <bmw> Anyone got ideas on how to repair the filesystem after an update from breezy to dapper.  It won't boot up and I need the files before I do a reinstall.
[06:00] <driz> i need to put a network between two linux computers
[06:00] <XVampireX> That's easy
[06:00] <bmw> driz: wazup?
[06:00] <XVampireX> You need NFS or Samba
[06:00] <Hawkwind> driz: NFS is the easiest. Takes less than 3 minutes
[06:00] <Hawkwind> driz: A simple edit of a file, then mount the share
[06:01] <driz> bmw: good.
[06:01] <driz> Hawkwind i tried the web page but i got nothing.
[06:01] <XVampireX> I find that samba is easier, but it's not better :P
[06:02] <Hawkwind> driz: You simply edit /etc/exports on the computer you want to see the files *of*
[06:02] <Hawkwind> driz: Here is mine from my mandriva box:   /storage   192.168.1.101(rw,sync,all_squash,anonuid=501,anongid=501,no_subtree_check)
[06:03] <flaccid> disk utils to check health of paritioning and stuff like that?
[06:03] <Hawkwind> driz: kdesu mount 192.168.1.102:/storage /archives/myserver/ &
[06:03] <TehKewl1> can anyone help me with a wireless card issue now?
[06:04] <Hawkwind> driz: Then I run that command on this box, and it's mounted.  I just go to: /archives/myserver in konqueror to see the files from the Mandriva box
[06:04] <bmw> So, anyone got any answers on how to rebuild filesystem after upgrading from Breezy to Dapper?  System won't boot up.
[06:04] <Hawkwind> driz: That's just how simple it is
[06:05] <driz> ok cool i'm going to try and do it now
[06:05] <Hawkwind> driz: You of course want to edit yours accordingly as far as /paths and IP#'s
[06:05] <TehKewl1> my wireless card setup messed up so as soon as I plug it in, everything screws up
[06:05] <TehKewl1> how do I set the network settings back the way they were?
[06:06] <Hawkwind> driz: Also, make sure nfs is installed of course
[06:06] <Hawkwind> driz: Once it is, on the box you want to see the files of after you edit /etc/exports, you need to restart the NFS service
[06:07] <Phoenix92x> hawkwind: thank you very much, my machine is useable again
[06:07] <Phoenix92x> I'll try getting fglrx to work properly at a later date and with more planning
[06:07] <Phoenix92x> thank you!
[06:07] <driz> sudo apt-get install nfs?
[06:07] <Hawkwind> Phoenix92x: No problem :)
[06:08] <Hawkwind> driz: Possibly
[06:08] <crimsun> charims: pong
[06:08] <driz> nope
[06:08] <driz> doesnt work
[06:08] <Hawkwind> driz: I don't know what the Ubuntu package for NFS is
[06:08] <charims> crimsun: wb, i installed the driver, what should i do now?
[06:08] <Hawkwind> driz: nfs-common
[06:09] <driz> ok
[06:09] <Hawkwind> driz: You could find that answer by doing:  apt-cache search nfs
[06:09] <crimsun> charims: ...test it?
[06:09] <BadTaste> Hi
[06:09] <charims> crimsun: it works jsut the same as the last driver
[06:09] <driz> Hawkwind: will do for next ime
[06:09] <crimsun> charims: what is the symptom?
[06:09] <bmw> Anyone got ideas on how to repair an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper and save the /home folder?
[06:10] <charims> crimsun: no sound, except through gaim, and now aplay
[06:10] <charims> crimsun: though i am nto sure they sound correct through aplay
[06:10] <crimsun> charims: No sound at all? Is arts configured?
[06:11] <charims> crimsun: not that i have done, how do i go about that?
[06:11] <crimsun> charims: look in the KDE Control under multimedia
[06:12] <bmw> charims: are your spkrs plugged in and turned on?
[06:12] <flaccid> is there a linux/kde equiv of tracktor dj studio/win ?
[06:12] <bmw> Just thought I'd ask.
[06:12] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Have you searched on freshmeat ?
[06:12] <flaccid> nope
[06:12] <charims> crimsun: yes, becuase i can get sound on from gaim and aplay
[06:12] <shriram> hey guys! i just installed kubuntu. Is there a default root password?
[06:13] <maltaethiron> ztem
[06:13] <Ztem> Paul.
[06:13] <shriram> i was never asked to enter one during the installation
[06:13] <Hawkwind> shriram: No
[06:13] <Diuneimama> !pkg-config
[06:13] <ubotu> pkg-config: manage compile and link flags for libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20-1 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 180 kB
[06:13] <Jucato> flaccid: you could also check in http://www.kde-apps.org
[06:13] <Hawkwind> shriram: Ubuntu uses sudo by default
[06:13] <maltaethiron> call me maltaethiron, my bar will flash
[06:13] <shriram> Hawkwind: how do i set a root pass?
[06:13] <charims> crimsun: in the KDE control my sound hardware is set to ALSA and override device loaction to /dev/snd
[06:13] <Hawkwind> shriram: sudo passwd
[06:13] <shriram> ah.. ok
[06:13] <charims> crimsun; that is the onyl way i can get any sound
[06:13] <flaccid> i remember there is one
[06:14] <Diuneimama> hey peoples. where can i get pkg-config???????
[06:14] <Jucato> yey! charims and crimsun are at it again! glad to see some things in life are consistent :-D
[06:14] <charims> haha
[06:14] <shriram> Hawkwind: can't seem to figure it out :/
[06:14] <charims> well my sound still doesn't work... :(
[06:14] <Hawkwind> Diuneimama: sudo apt-get install pkg-config  ?
[06:14] <maltaethiron> ztem: watch how dis be done
[06:15] <Hawkwind> shriram: sudo passwd    Then enter a password
[06:15] <Hawkwind> shriram: That creates one
[06:15] <Diuneimama> Hawkwind let me try
[06:15] <shriram> Hawkwind: okiw
[06:15] <Hawkwind> !info pkg-config
[06:15] <ubotu> pkg-config: manage compile and link flags for libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20-1 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 180 kB
[06:16] <maltaethiron> HEY YO, anyone think that they can help out Ztem with installing limewire???
[06:16] <Ztem> i hate you.
[06:16] <Hawkwind> !limewire
[06:16] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:16] <charims> crimsun: antoher sympton is that many of my media players will freeze when they try to play a file
[06:16] <maltaethiron> hehe, see Ztem?
[06:16] <Hawkwind> Use frostwire instead
[06:16] <maltaethiron> !frostwire
[06:16] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:16] <charims> crimsun: all my codecs are up to dat, and i get no system notifications
[06:16] <veedub_tdi> hey anyone here using amarok 1.4.2?
[06:16] <Ztem> why is Frostwire better?
[06:16] <Hawkwind> veedub_tdi: Yes
[06:16] <Diuneimama> Hawkwind (could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (ll resoursce temporary unavaiable
[06:16] <shriram> Hawkwind:
[06:16] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Read the info the bot told you
[06:16] <shriram> shriram@shriram-laptop:~$ sudo passwd
[06:16] <shriram> Password:
[06:16] <shriram> Sorry, try again.
[06:17] <shriram> sorry for spamming
[06:17] <Hawkwind> Diuneimama: Do you have Adept open ?
[06:17] <Diuneimama> yup
[06:17] <Hawkwind> shriram: Then it looks like the password is already set
[06:17] <shriram> ewww
[06:17] <Hawkwind> Diuneimama: Then close it, then do sudo apt-get install pkg-config
[06:17] <veedub_tdi> Hawkwind, you got issues with the collection not scanning (scan error)
[06:17] <Hawkwind> veedub_tdi: Nope
[06:17] <veedub_tdi> dang
[06:17] <shriram> Hawkwind: i've tried every pass
[06:17] <Diuneimama> couldn;t find package
[06:17] <Diuneimama> Hawkwind couldn;t find package
[06:18] <Hawkwind> Diuneimama: Setup your repos appropriately then
[06:18] <Hawkwind> !repos > Diuneimama
[06:18] <shriram> Hawkwind: could i do something with the installation disk?
[06:18] <shriram> to set the root pass
[06:18] <Hawkwind> shriram: No idea
[06:19] <shriram> ok
[06:19] <unix_lappy> shriram: you are looking to reset your root pass?
[06:19] <Diuneimama> ok thanks hawkwind
[06:20] <crimsun> charims: don't override the device location, because what you have set is incorrect.
[06:21] <charims> crimsun: kk
[06:22] <charims> crimsun: still no system notifications..., and now aplay makes no sound
[06:22] <shriram> Hawkwind: unix_lappy.. it worked
[06:22] <shriram> had to do "sudo passwd root"
[06:22] <shriram> then enter userpassword
[06:22] <shriram> and then the new root password
[06:22] <unix_lappy> shriram: oh, so you meant to add a root user to the live cd.
[06:22] <unix_lappy> ?
[06:23] <shriram> unix_lappy: i've installed kubuntu with the livecd
[06:23] <charims> crimsun: should i be using snd-intel8x0 or snd-ac97-codec or snd-ac97-bus
[06:25] <unix_lappy> shriram: and what are you hoping to accomplish?
[06:25] <maltaethiron> !binary > Ztem
[06:25] <crimsun> you should have all those
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <crimsun> charims: does aplay hang or appear to play?
[06:26] <charims> crimsun: not sure, it says its playing, but there is no sound, it shows Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono until i hit ctrl-c
[06:27] <veedub_tdi> argh, well, looks like it's back to amarok 1.4.1 ...
[06:28] <Jucato> veedub_tdi: why?
[06:28] <veedub_tdi> collection won't scan
[06:28] <crimsun> charims: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[06:28] <veedub_tdi> keep getting errors
[06:28] <Jucato> veedub_tdi: are you using Amarok 1.4.2 on PPC?
[06:28] <veedub_tdi> no, x86
[06:28] <veedub_tdi> athlon 2500
[06:28] <Jucato> hmm.. that's strange...
[06:28] <charims> Crimsun:COMMAND     PID    USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[06:28] <charims> kmix       4989 charims   10u   CHR  116,0      8598 /dev/snd/controlC0
[06:28] <charims> amarokapp 12981 charims   20u   CHR  116,0      8598 /dev/snd/controlC0
[06:28] <charims> artsd     13532 charims  mem    CHR 116,16      8580 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[06:28] <charims> artsd     13532 charims    8r   CHR 116,33      8417 /dev/snd/timer
[06:28] <charims> artsd     13532 charims    9u   CHR 116,16      8580 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[06:28] <charims> artsd     13535 charims  mem    CHR 116,16      8580 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[06:28] <Jucato> yikes
[06:28] <charims> artsd     13535 charims    9u   CHR 116,16      8580 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[06:28] <Jucato> charims: ....
[06:28] <charims> oops
[06:28] <charims> :(
[06:29] <charims> b4 it did it without separating them
[06:29] <crimsun> charims: right, artsd is hogging the sound device.
[06:29] <charims> crimsun: so killall -9 artsd?
[06:29] <crimsun> charims: so what you need to do is completely disable arts
[06:29] <charims> crimsun: kk
[06:29] <crimsun> charims: in the KDE Control [..]  you should be able to uncheck it
[06:29] <shriram> unix_lappy: nothing much actually. just set the root password :P
[06:30] <charims> crimsun: in the KDE control?
[06:30] <unix_lappy> shriram: well that's simple enough :P
[06:30] <shriram> heh.. yeah
[06:31] <crimsun> charims: in the control panel or whatnot
[06:31] <shriram> unix_lappy: any idea how i can check whether my graphics card is being used/detected..?
[06:31] <unix_lappy> shriram: well, if you're in X there's a pretty good bet.
[06:31] <nello> k
[06:31] <Hawkwind> LOL
[06:32] <shriram> unix_lappy: ah.. ok
[06:32] <charims> crimsun: i don't see an option for arts
[06:32] <Hawkwind> If it wasn't, you surely wouldn't be seeing anything graphical
[06:32] <unix_lappy> shriram: maybe you mean to ask if the proper drivers are loaded for your gpu?
[06:32] <shriram> unix_lappy: exactly
[06:32] <shriram> :)
[06:33] <crimsun> charims: it's the sound server
[06:33] <unix_lappy> shriram: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "blah"
[06:33] <shriram> ah.. ok
[06:33] <unix_lappy> replace blah with whatever device you are running.
[06:33] <Hawkwind> shriram: Nvidia ?
[06:33] <flaccid> i have created now a dedicated partition for home dir. /home is currently on / what steps should i do to transfer to new partition?
[06:33] <charims> crimsun: you mean the "Enable the sound system" box?
[06:33] <shriram> Hawkwind: ati
[06:33] <crimsun> charims: correct. Uncheck it.
[06:33] <shriram> x1300
[06:34] <shriram> radeon
[06:34] <charims> crimsun: done, and applied
[06:34] <unix_lappy> shriram: this is a laptop or desktop?
[06:34] <shriram> laptop
[06:34] <Hawkwind> shriram: fglrxinfo | grep render might tell you.  Or something similar
[06:34] <shriram> ah.. cool
[06:34] <unix_lappy> shriram: then i recommend you stay with the default drivers ubuntu provided you.
[06:34] <Hawkwind> Grepping your xorg.conf file won't tell you much of anything honestly
[06:34] <shriram> let me try thta
[06:34] <crimsun> charims: what's the output from that lsof command now?
[06:34] <charims> crimsun: i get sound from aplay again, let me test a media player
[06:34] <Hawkwind> Grepping your xorg.conf file will only tell you how things are set, not if they are installed or working properly
[06:35] <charims> COMMAND     PID    USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[06:35] <charims> kmix       4989 charims   10u   CHR  116,0      8598 /dev/snd/controlC0
[06:35] <charims> amarokapp 12981 charims   20u   CHR  116,0      8598 /dev/snd/controlC0
[06:35] <charims> oops again
[06:35] <unix_lappy> shriram: the ati drivers tend to cause problems with acpi and certain 3rd party firmware/ hardware.
[06:35] <Hawkwind> Stop pasting to the channel
[06:35] <Hawkwind> !pastebin > charims
[06:35] <shriram> yeah :/
[06:35] <unix_lappy> your mileage may very though.
[06:35] <unix_lappy> shriram: my recommendation is to
[06:35] <charims> pastebin is not greater than charmis!
[06:35] <charims> charims*
[06:35] <unix_lappy> basically just stay with your current setup unless you require 3d accel.
[06:36] <unix_lappy> eg, for professional gaming or CAD :P
[06:36] <Hawkwind> unix_lappy: Ummmmmmm, that's pretty bad advice
[06:36] <shriram> i need to run Maya
[06:36] <shriram> my xorg.conf has some ATI stuff
[06:36] <unix_lappy> shriram: that's expected.
[06:36] <shriram>        Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
[06:36] <shriram>         Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
[06:36] <Hawkwind> unix_lappy: The drivers can and will greatly increase performance and look of your fonts, regardless if you game or not
[06:36] <Jucato> (Chanserv > charims) =
[06:37] <Jucato> lol.. sorry about that
[06:37] <shriram> okie
[06:37] <unix_lappy> you need to run the command Hawkwind gave you to determine if ubuntu setup your 3d accel drivers properly.
[06:37] <shriram> Hawkwind: where do i get the drivers?
[06:37] <charims> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22405
[06:37] <charims> is that better?
[06:37] <Hawkwind> !ati
[06:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:37] <shriram> it didn't work
[06:37] <unix_lappy> Hawkwind: i havent noticed much of a performance boost and i use X to spawn terms :P
[06:37] <Hawkwind> shriram: ^^^^^^^^^
[06:37] <shriram> ubotu: cool! thanks :D
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cool! thanks :D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <charims> and Chanserv is only a little bit greater than me
[06:37] <crimsun> charims: yep. What engine is amarok configured to use?
[06:37] <Hawkwind> unix_lappy: You will always have an increase, regardless of your system
[06:38] <charims> crimsun: alsa
[06:38] <unix_lappy> Hawkwind: the only question is the degree to which.
[06:38] <shriram> bbs
[06:38] <Hawkwind> unix_lappy: Still....telling users not to install them is pretty bad advice.  One that shouldn't be given
[06:38] <charims> crimsun; i tried to play a sound file in amarok, and it froze...
[06:38] <unix_lappy> Hawkwind: he stated he was running on a laptop.
[06:38] <Hawkwind> unix_lappy: And ?
[06:39] <Diuneimama> Hawkwind wat should i install after i have dl the header with adept manager?????
[06:39] <unix_lappy> I have him the possible scenarios in which those drivers would be beneficial in common situations.
[06:39] <unix_lappy> listing all of them is quite impossible.
[06:39] <unix_lappy> however, i did give him isntances in which the drivers maybe detrimental as well.
[06:39] <Hawkwind> Laptop, desktop, doesn't matter.  You still get performance and appearance increase with the drivers, regardless if you game or not
[06:39] <unix_lappy> so i think my advice was balance.
[06:39] <unix_lappy> balanced*
[06:39] <Hawkwind> unix_lappy: I disagree
[06:39] <Hawkwind> Diuneimama: I have no idea what you are trying to do
[06:39] <unix_lappy> Hawkwind: ok...
[06:39] <Hawkwind> Diuneimama: Nor wanting to do for that matter
[06:40] <Diuneimama> can i get pkg-config there?
[06:40] <unix_lappy> I tend to just say, let the user experiment with the OS and find the balance they require as per their hardware and use.
[06:40] <Hawkwind> unix_lappy: If a system is going to have better looking appearance from the get go with drivers as compared to without, I think it's best to always install the drivers
[06:40] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: you busy?
[06:40] <unix_lappy> The best we can do is say, here's what happend with us. here is what you can expect to happen.
[06:40] <maltaethiron> lol
[06:40] <Hawkwind> Diuneimama: I thought you already installed pkg-config ?
[06:40] <unix_lappy> let the user determind what they require and what they need to do.
[06:40] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: If you have a question, just ask
[06:41] <maltaethiron> ok
[06:41] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: But ask the channel, not one individual person
[06:41] <maltaethiron> Who in here can tell me how to install binary files
[06:41] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: As in deb files ?
[06:41] <maltaethiron> idk, ask Ztem
[06:41] <maltaethiron> hes scared to ask
[06:41] <Ztem> im a nub :(
[06:41] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: dpkg -i filename.deb   but best to use sudo apt-get install package  as that will solve deps
[06:42] <Ztem> how do you save the damn .deb file?
[06:42] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Better learn to speak....only way you'll ever learn
[06:42] <charims> crimsun: yeah, amarok doesn't like me i think, nor kaffeine, or anything else for that matter, not even the audio cd player...
[06:42] <Hawkwind> Ztem: What are you trying to install ?
[06:42] <Ztem> frostwire
[06:42] <Ztem> i went to the place the bot sent
[06:42] <Ztem> and i dont know how to save the .deb file on the desktop or w/e
[06:43] <Ztem> ...because im a major nub
[06:43] <Hawkwind> Right click, Save As
[06:43] <Ztem> yeah, did that
[06:43] <Hawkwind> Tell it where to save it
[06:43] <crimsun> charims: it really sounds like your hardware is causing the kernel to have fits
[06:43] <Ztem> and it saves as the download.php and not the .deb file
[06:43] <charims> crimsun: is that bad?
[06:43] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Then change the name from download.php to whatever you need it to be
[06:43] <Hawkwind> Ztem: For instance, package.deb
[06:43] <shriram> is there a community repository for kubuntu where i can find software like skype, gaim etc?
[06:43] <Hawkwind> It should then save it as a .deb file
[06:43] <charims> crimsun: i know after a lot of wrok i got it to wrok in breezy badger, but it would only work on one program at a time
[06:43] <maltaethiron> Ztem: did you search synaptic for frostwire at all?
[06:44] <Diuneimama> hawkwind i haven installed it
[06:44] <Ztem> no, you didnt suggest that, Paul my friend
[06:44] <Ztem> lol
[06:44] <maltaethiron> -.-
[06:44] <maltaethiron> lol
[06:44] <Hawkwind> !info frostwire
[06:44] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in any distro I know
[06:44] <maltaethiron> but try the way that hawkwind suggested for the learning experience
[06:44] <Hawkwind> frostwire is not packaged by Ubuntu
[06:44] <shriram> is there a community repository for kubuntu where i can find software like skype, realplayeretc?
[06:45] <Hawkwind> !info skype
[06:45] <ubotu> Package skype does not exist in any distro I know
[06:45] <Hawkwind> shriram: Skype is not open source, therefore it's not packaged by the distro
[06:45] <shriram> Hawkwind: ah.. ok
[06:45] <Hawkwind> shriram: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[06:45] <maltaethiron> Ztem: so do you know what youre doing now?
[06:45] <Hawkwind> shriram: Add that to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[06:46] <Ztem> not really
[06:46] <maltaethiron> ok
[06:46] <maltaethiron> so
[06:46] <shriram> Hawkwind: will do that
[06:46] <Jucato> Hawkwind: is that safe to use with Ubuntu also?
[06:46] <maltaethiron> Ztem: dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:46] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yes
[06:46] <Jucato> kool
[06:46] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Mainly because it's in the 'stable' repo
[06:47] <crimsun> charims: hmm. In the xine engine's configuration for amarok, can you configure a specific alsa output device?
[06:48] <charims> crimsun: hold on, amarok is taking forever to start
[06:48] <Jucato> Hawkwind: aaah
[06:49] <flaccid> i have a weird error when opening konqueror http://hardtrance.biz/temp/konq_error.png any ideas?
[06:49] <charims> crimsun: no, but it gives me options for mono, stereo, 4 channel and 6 channel
[06:49] <crimsun> charims: take a screenshot of the xine engine window, please
[06:49] <Jucato> flaccid: what version of KDE are you using?
[06:50] <flaccid> Jucato: 3.5.4
[06:50] <Jucato> hm... that should have been fixed... hold on
[06:51] <charims> crimsun: can i send u the file through irc?
[06:51] <crimsun> no.
[06:51] <crimsun> pastebin it.
[06:51] <charims> crimsun: oh, kk
[06:51] <flaccid> Jucato: ah ok known bug
[06:52] <Jucato> flaccid: yeah... seems like it crept back in to KDE 3.5.4 like some other bugs
[06:52] <Jucato> flaccid: iirc, it was fixed in KDE 3.5.3
[06:52] <charims> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22406
[06:52] <Jucato> flaccid: simple solution: don't use the System tab :-D
[06:52] <flaccid> Jucato: ah ok have you got a URI or any other info?
[06:53] <shriram> Hawkwind: what's the source type i need to use when adding that link to sources.list?
[06:53] <Jucato> flaccid: for that bug? nope. sorry
[06:53] <Hawkwind> shriram: Huh ?
[06:53] <flaccid> ok np
[06:53] <flaccid> i should just wait for next update?
[06:53] <charims> crimsun: which alsa snd driver should i be using?
[06:53] <shriram> in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:54] <shriram> what's the syntax for adding that link to skypr
[06:54] <Hawkwind> shriram: Just add the line exactly as I gave it to you
[06:54] <Hawkwind> shriram: Just add it at the bottom of the file
[06:54] <shriram> okie
[06:54] <crimsun> charims: please use a different pastebin; that one's blocked here
[06:56] <Jucato> charims: you can try http://pastebin.com/
[06:56] <shriram> Hawkwind: awesome! thanks :D
[06:56] <Hawkwind> http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[06:56] <Ztem> Hawkwind: i saved the .deb file to the desktop but when i go into Konsole and go all sudo dpkg -i <name>.deb, it doesnt work
[06:56] <Hawkwind> pastebin.com is horribly slow
[06:56] <Jucato> or that. ehehe
[06:56] <Jucato> hm.. fast here... but I guess it depends...
[06:57] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Are you using the actual name of the .deb file ?
[06:57] <Ztem> yes
[06:57] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Also, doesn't work is pretty vague, you need to supply details
[06:57] <Jucato> use the one Hawkwind provided. (free advertisement for Ulteo, too. :-D )
[06:57] <charims> crimsun: they don't allow pics, i think i will put it up sumwhere else, hold on a sec...
[06:58] <Jucato> Hawkwind: both the pastebins we provided don't allow pics?
[06:58] <Ztem> frostwire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb is what im using... and it says that cannot access archive : no such file or directory. Errors were encountered while processing (said filename)
[06:58] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Some do, some don't
[06:58] <Jucato> Ubuntu's pastebin does... but it's slow, too....
[06:58] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Are you in the directory of the file where you saved it ?
[06:59] <charims> crimsun: i'm putting it on photobucket
[07:00] <Ztem> Hawkwind: im not sure -.-
[07:00] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Where did you save the file to ?
[07:01] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Only you know that answer
[07:01] <maltaethiron> hey, now that ive depackaged the deb file, what do i do next
[07:01] <Ztem> Hawkwind: its on the desktop
[07:01] <Hawkwind> Ztem: cd Desktop
[07:01] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Then type:  ls   to see if the file is listed there
[07:01] <shriram> Hawkwind: where is the list of modules loaded at startup stored in kubuntu?
[07:01] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: What exactly are you trying to do ?
[07:01] <maltaethiron> install frostwire -.-
[07:01] <Hawkwind> shriram: lsmod  will tell you everything that's loaded module wise
[07:01] <Ztem> Hawkwind: it isnt there...
[07:01] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:02] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Then you need to cd to the directory where you saved the file
[07:02] <maltaethiron> Hawkwind: yeah i did that, now what do i do
[07:02] <shriram> i want to disable this annoying sound my pc speaker makes
[07:02] <shriram> Hawkwind: rmmod pcspkr
[07:02] <shriram> i did that
[07:02] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Or create a directory called downloads and save it there or something.  Make it simple
[07:02] <shriram> how do i apply the change? or how do i permanently disable that module?
[07:03] <Hawkwind> shriram: You'd have to blacklist it
[07:03] <shriram> yeah.. where is the list of modules?
[07:03] <Hawkwind> shriram: Look in /etc/modprobe.d or /etc/modules
[07:03] <shriram> okie
[07:04] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: once ive done "dpkg -i filename.deb", is the file installed?
[07:04] <maltaethiron> oh it is
[07:04] <maltaethiron> w00t
[07:04] <maltaethiron> lol
[07:04] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Read your screen
[07:04] <Hawkwind> It tells you that
[07:05] <shriram> bbs
[07:06] <alexicon> hrmm
[07:06] <alexicon> alsamixer isnt displaying a lot of stuff interms of audio devices. like my headphones and mic etc
[07:06] <alexicon> theres only master and pcm available
[07:06] <alexicon> where should i start looking to fix this
[07:07] <crimsun> alexicon: cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:07] <charims> crimsun: www.bst150.com/snapshot1.png
[07:07] <alexicon> thanks
[07:08] <charims> crimsun: photobucket failed me, but this works
[07:08] <romeo> bonsoir
[07:09] <romeo> kubuntu est un superb distro
[07:09] <crimsun> charims: hmm, that seems a lot more sparse than I recall.
[07:09] <Diuneimama> !easysource
[07:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:09] <romeo> j adore
[07:09] <charims> crimsun: sparse?
[07:10] <romeo> bien mieux que suse
[07:10] <romeo> bravo kabntu
[07:10] <Hawkwind> !fr
[07:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:10] <Diuneimama> hello can i ask? if i finish downloading from adepr manager is the file being installed?
[07:10] <crimsun> charims: I thought there were more options
[07:10] <alexicon> he did spanish first
[07:11] <alexicon> think hes just pissing about
[07:11] <charims> crimsun: not that i know of...
[07:11] <crimsun> charims: try changing the stereo one to plughw:0
[07:11] <Hawkwind> Diuneimama: If you told it to install, yes
[07:11] <crimsun> charims: (instead of default)
[07:11] <Diuneimama> Hawkwind Request to install mean tell it to install?
[07:12] <Hawkwind> Diuneimama: Absolutely
[07:12] <Diuneimama> Hawkwind thanks
[07:12] <charims> crimsun: hmm, idk
[07:12] <crimsun> charims: just change it, click Apply, etc.
[07:13] <charims> crimsun: that i can do
[07:13] <charims> crimsun: for oss it gives me an option for device
[07:14] <charims> crimsun: it says either /dev/dsp or /dev/sound/dsp
[07:14] <charims> crimsun; but it still freaks out when i try to play an ogg file
[07:16] <charims> crimsun: tried to change to esd, and it crashed again
[07:16] <crimsun> charims: don't use alsa, but for stereo use plughw:0
[07:16] <crimsun> charims: sorry. That's mean to be read as: Don't. Use alsa ...
[07:17] <charims> crimsun: when i change from alsa, it doesn't give me the stereo optin, it changes
[07:17] <alexicon> hrm it has my soundcard HDA-Intel but i dont know why i cant hear through the headphones
[07:17] <charims> crimsun: ahhh, kk
[07:17] <alexicon> was something not detected right?
[07:17] <crimsun> alexicon: I'm waiting for output from the command I gave you
[07:17] <alexicon> 0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xde400000 irq 82
[07:18] <crimsun> alexicon: head -1 /proc/asound/card0/codec*
[07:18] <ryedunn> just got up and running on kubuntu, updated my sources  using netselect-apt (very cool) but I cant get firefox?.. anyone know why?
[07:18] <charims> crimsun: started playing, then froze agian like usual, but when i change to file for output plugin, it doesn't freeze :) but no sound
[07:18] <alexicon> ==> /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 <==
[07:18] <alexicon> Codec: SigmaTel STAC7661
[07:18] <crimsun> !info firefox
[07:18] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 (dapper), package size 7730 kB, installed size 22912 kB
[07:18] <alexicon> ==> /proc/asound/card0/codec#1 <==
[07:18] <alexicon> Codec: Generic 14f1 ID 2bfa
[07:19] <ryedunn> yeah thats what Im trying
[07:19] <crimsun> charims: you've got some sort of hardware glitch
[07:19] <crimsun> charims: what did you have to do for 5.10?
[07:19] <charims> crimsun: idk, it was a long time ago, but i used alsa, i know that
[07:19] <ryedunn> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:19] <ryedunn> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:19] <ryedunn> is only available from another sourc
[07:19] <ryedunn> oops
[07:19] <crimsun> ryedunn: firefox is in the main component. If you can't apt-get it, then your sources.list is misconfigured.
[07:19] <charims> crimsun: someone guided me through it, haha, for all know, it could have been you
[07:20] <crimsun> alexicon: that's fine. What's the output from ``amixer''? Don't flood this channel.
[07:20] <charims> crimsun: yeah, but it sucked, sound could only come from one program at a time
[07:20] <ryedunn> crimsun:  hmm I'll take a look, thank you.
[07:20] <alexicon> !pastebin > alexicon
[07:21] <charims> what is with everyone thinking pastebin is better than everyone else? nvm
[07:21] <alexicon> hmmm
[07:21] <alexicon> heh
[07:21] <alexicon> i just get told to use it most the time
[07:21] <alexicon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22407
[07:22] <alexicon> amixer is just displaying those two channels
[07:22] <alexicon> im on a laptop and its got a headphone and mic port
[07:22] <charims> no, i meant everyone keeps saying pastebin is > "Name", i know, its jsut for ubotu
[07:22] <alexicon> but i dont see any controls for them
[07:22] <alexicon> heh oh ok
[07:22] <alexicon> i never can remember where it is, guess i should bookmark it
[07:23] <crimsun> alexicon: is sound audible at all?
[07:23] <alexicon> through headphones not at all
[07:23] <charims> crimsun: yeah, this sucks, looks like i have to go back to my old soundblaster sucks eggs
[07:23] <alexicon> but it is through speakers on the laptop
[07:23] <alexicon> havent tried to see if suse detected the headphones yet
[07:24] <charims> crimsun: i'm not sure i'm even using the right snd- driver
[07:24] <crimsun> charims: did you try loading snd-intel8x0 with buggy_irq=1 buggy_semaphore=1  ?
[07:24] <charims> crimsun: before you had me do it, but not since i went back to the uncompiled driver
[07:24] <crimsun> alexicon: so it's just not routing correctly through
[07:24] <alexicon> crimsun: it doesnt say a headphone/mic port exist
[07:24] <crimsun> charims: ok, unload snd-intel8x0 and reload it with those parameters
[07:25] <crimsun> alexicon: which specific laptop is this?
[07:25] <crimsun> alexicon: and which kernel are you running?
[07:25] <alexicon> sony sz91 2.6.15-26-386
[07:25] <crimsun> lspci -nv, please
[07:25] <crimsun> (pastebin)
[07:26] <charims> crimsun: error WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error inserting snd_intel8x0 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[07:26] <crimsun> charims: dmesg|tail -3
[07:26] <alexicon> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22408
[07:27] <charims> crimsun :[17195510.996000]  snd_intel8x0: disagrees about version of symbol snd_pcm_period_elapsed   [17195510.996000]  snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_period_elapsed    [17195511.000000]  snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_ac97_tune_hardware
[07:28] <alexicon> ack it got truncated
[07:28] <alexicon> i gotta go out now anyway
[07:28] <alexicon> sorry
[07:28] <alexicon> need to check my other distro and see if sound works through headphones
[07:28] <shriram> can one of you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list for me please (with the universe and miltiverse repositories enabled)
[07:28] <crimsun> alexicon: that issue should be resolved in the next kernel.
[07:28] <alexicon> i just dont know what i could edit to fix it
[07:28] <flaccid> i'm a bit confused on backing up. i want to back up my /home/flaccid profile only. what should i use?
[07:28] <alexicon> heh ok crimsun
[07:28] <shriram> multiverse*
[07:28] <crimsun> alexicon: I posted a fix for it last week sometime.
[07:28] <alexicon> wicked
[07:29] <alexicon> cheers man i look forward to it
[07:29] <crimsun> charims: hmm. cat /proc/asound/version
[07:29] <alexicon> shriram: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[07:30] <alexicon> shriram: deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[07:30] <alexicon> righto im off
[07:30] <alexicon> thanks everyone
[07:30] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I just use tar and put the backup somewhere else other than ~/ and/or burn it to CD/DVD
[07:30] <charims> crimsun:Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC).
[07:30] <flaccid> Hawkwind: i need to not be logged in hey?
[07:30] <charims> crimsun: wait, thats supposed to be 13! why is it 10?
[07:30] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Sure you can be
[07:31] <flaccid> has trouble writing some stuff i belive
[07:31] <charims> crimsun: i jsut installed it!
[07:31] <crimsun> charims: because you didn't install 13rc1 correctly ;)
[07:31] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I do daily backups of my entire system using tar and my system is always running and always in X
[07:31] <charims> crimsun: really?
[07:31] <charims> crimsun: or was i to restart?
[07:31] <crimsun> charims: I presumed you either unloaded all the alsa modules then reloaded snd-intel8x0, or you rebooted.
[07:32] <charims> crimsun: uhh, well, i better reboot then...
[07:32] <charims> crimsun: i did neither
[07:32] <crimsun> you don't _have_ to reboot, but it's probably easier
[07:32] <charims> crimsun: i will reboot, brb
[07:33] <tj> hey anybody here watch big brother????
[07:33] <Hawkwind> tj: Probably the wrong channel to ask that.  Try #Kubuntu-OffTopic
[07:33] <tj> ok thanks sorry
[07:36] <StrudelNinja> hey, I'm trying to get my winkey to open the k menu. A friend had me put http://pastebin.ca/159536 in winkey.sh and put it in /home/josh/.kde/Autostart/ but it's not working
[07:36] <StrudelNinja> it has all the permissions
[07:36] <charims> crimsun: I'm back, but i'm not sure which alsa driver is currently loaded, will test with aadebug
[07:36] <StrudelNinja> the same for another .sh I have in the same dir
[07:36] <crimsun> charims: cat /proc/asound/modules
[07:37] <charims> crimsun:0 snd_intel8x0
[07:37] <crimsun> and cat /proc/asound/version?
[07:38] <charims> crimsun:Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.13rc1. Compiled on Sep  2 2006 for kernel 2.6.15-26-386.
[07:40] <charims> crimsun: amarok still freezes, and no sound from it
[07:40] <crimsun> yeah, that's sounding more and more like a hardware issue
[07:40] <StrudelNinja> amarok problem? I hear just uninstalling and reinstalling works...
[07:41] <crimsun> charims: did you try the buggy irq/semaphore workarounds?
[07:41] <charims> crimsun: not, how do i do that
[07:41] <charims> crimsun: do i modprobe -r snd-intel8x0 and the modprobe snd-intel8x0 buggirg....
[07:42] <crimsun> charims: yes
[07:42] <charims> crimsun: okay, what were the specific workarounds... i don't know the exact names
[07:42] <crimsun> buggy_irq=1 buggy_semaphore=1
[07:43] <charims> crimsun: kk thanks
[07:43] <maltaethiron> what do i do with a .bin file?
[07:43] <charims> crimsun: FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use.
[07:44] <crimsun> charims: kill `lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*'
[07:44] <charims> crimsun: figured it out, amarok was still open
[07:44] <maltaethiron> can anyone tell me what to do with a bin file?
[07:44] <Hawkwind> sh filename.bin
[07:44] <charims> crimsun: ok, now what, should i restart?
[07:45] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Possible you might have to do:  chmod +x filename.sh  and then sh filename.bin
[07:45] <crimsun> charims: did you unload snd-intel8x0 and reload it with those parameters?
[07:45] <charims> crimsun: yes
[07:45] <crimsun> charims: now try amarok/aplay/whatever alsa apps
[07:46] <charims> crimsun: amarok xine doenst like it, it siad that it could not load the dirver
[07:46] <Ztem> Hawkwind: i cant get java5 to install, i typed sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin into Konsole and it went thro all the crap, but when i went to open Frostwire it told me i needed 1.4 or higher
[07:46] <maltaethiron> Ztem: look what he just told me
[07:46] <Diuneimama> Question : if i download and installed package or file.. where usually it locates???????
[07:46] <flaccid> Ztem: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre ?
[07:47] <maltaethiron> Ztem: just do sh filename.bin
[07:47] <charims> crimsun: aplay returned errors :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22409
[07:47] <sans> hi all, i just replaced my sources.list from those of dapper to those of edgy and dist-upgraded, I'm about to restart soon, what should I do if i have a problem it won't let me back in?
[07:48] <sans> wait, that might've been a too general question, i guess the answer would be it depends, huh?
[07:48] <Hawkwind> sans: Why are you upgrading to a beta ?
[07:48] <sans> i don't know
[07:48] <charims> crimsun: cat /proc/asound/modules returns nothing
[07:48] <lmosher> How do I make it so my new hard disk partitions shows up on my desktop?
[07:48] <sans> i read about it today on slashdot and now regretting it, i had a perfectly stable desktop
[07:48] <Hawkwind> sans: Probably best you stick with a stable version, which is Dapper until Edgy gets released
[07:49] <sans> i did already upgrade, how can i downgrade? do I just put my sources.list back to dapper and dist-upgrade?
[07:49] <lmosher> edgy is out next month anyway, right?
[07:49] <charims> crimsun: attempted reloading snd-intel8x0 with wrokarounds, still nothing in cat /proc/asound/modules
[07:49] <Hawkwind> lmosher: Yes, but tons of things will change before then
[07:49] <Hawkwind> sans: I don't know that you can, or how to if you can
[07:49] <Linux_Galore> sans: duh its the "unstable" release only for developers right now
[07:49] <lmosher> Of course things will change, I was just wondering about the time frame :)
[07:49] <Hawkwind> sans: Why you upgraded is beyond me.   Unless you're a beta tester it's best to stick with stable at all times
[07:50] <sans> well curiosity killed the cat, so they say
[07:50] <Hawkwind> sans: Ever heard of vmware ?
[07:50] <Hawkwind> sans: Or a seperate install ?
[07:50] <Lunar_Raven> edgy is out next month?
[07:50] <Lunar_Raven> i havent seen many new features yet
[07:50] <Lunar_Raven> =\
[07:50] <Linux_Galore> sans: you could have updated 6.06 and got most of the stuff in edgy anyway
[07:50] <Hawkwind> Lunar_Raven: Knot2 was released yesterday
[07:50] <Lunar_Raven> oh hmm
[07:51] <Lunar_Raven> i only tried 1
[07:51] <Lunar_Raven> heh
[07:51] <charims> crimsun: nvidia has this info, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.11.html
[07:51] <Linux_Galore> yeah I have knot 2 on my laptop, works but the newbie stuff is broken
[07:52] <Hawkwind> Linux_Galore: I'm running it in vmware.  It seems really nice, but like you said, basic n00b stuff is broken/disabled
[07:52] <Ztem> okay, JRE is all updated, but Frostwire doesnt recognize this...
[07:52] <Hawkwind> Welcome to the world of p2p apps
[07:53] <Hawkwind> They are poorly coded and mostly crap.
[07:53] <Ztem> :-
[07:53] <Ztem> ...help?
[07:53] <Ztem> lol
[07:53] <Hawkwind> Next to impossible to troubleshoot and get working
[07:53] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Yeah...don't use them
[07:53] <crimsun> charims: lsmod |grep ^snd
[07:53] <Ztem> Hawkwind: you said to use Frostwire over Limewire?
[07:53] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Yes, but they are both horrible IMO.  I don't use any p2p app
[07:54] <Hawkwind> Prime example is you working on it for 2+ hours with no luck.  It's a waste IMO
[07:54] <Ztem> Hawkwind: what would you suggest? and i feel like crap now, i just spent all that time...
[07:54] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Purchase from a store
[07:54] <Ztem> EEEEEEEEEEE
[07:54] <Hawkwind> Ztem: What are you wanting to download ?
[07:54] <charims> crimsun: posting on pastebin
[07:55] <Ztem> Hawkwind: nothing in particular. just fooling around.
[07:55] <Hawkwind> Ztem: Then stay away from p2p apps
[07:55] <Ztem> Hawkwind: awww, i feel defeated.
[07:55] <Hawkwind> If you want music files: irc.undernet.org #Mp3_Collections  If you want movies, torrents
[07:55] <charims> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/782526
[07:56] <maltaethiron> Ztem: yeah, you should prolly just stick to torrenting...also seeing as ktorrent works like a charm
[07:56] <Hawkwind> You could have done some major coding in the 2 hours you wasted with a crappy p2p app
[07:57] <Ztem> Hawkwind: no i couldnt have, ive been using Linux for like 2 days.
[07:57] <Hawkwind> It was merely an example :P
[07:57] <Ztem> :)
[07:57] <charims>  :-P
[07:58] <Jlone> Hello
[07:58] <Jlone> Can someone help me really quick
[07:58] <Jlone> I mounted an NTFS drive with a bunch of music on it
[07:59] <Jlone> But I cant get any of the mp3's to play... what gives?
[08:00] <Jlone> ...
[08:00] <Jlone> :(
[08:00] <charims> crimsun: hey, i have to go, its 11:00 and i have to go to bed
[08:00] <charims> crimsun: anything you have to say about my output?
[08:01] <crimsun> charims: the output itself looks fine. What's the error?
[08:01] <charims> crimsun: it jsut said there are no drivers to load, i checked the modules, there is nothing there
[08:01] <charims> crimsun: under cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:02] <charims> crimsun: there is no output from that
[08:02] <Jlone> is anyone available to help me with this problem?
[08:03] <charims> Jlone, please search the forums, i don't know the asnwer, but i do know there is a pposting on it there. go to ubuntuforums.org
[08:03] <crimsun> charims: does it contain "no soundcards"?
[08:03] <charims> crimsun: something like that, but i g2g, talk to later
[08:04] <charims> crimsun: goodnight
[08:04] <crimsun> charims: I'm away for 2 days
[08:04] <Jlone> ok ill check there
[08:04] <charims> crimsun: really, awww, kk
[08:04] <charims> crimsun: ok, is there anythng else we can do qucikly before i go?
[08:06] <crimsun> charims: sure, try using just one of the workarounds instead of both
[08:06] <charims> crimsun: ok, ill try irq first
[08:08] <charims> crimsun: froze with that
[08:08] <crimsun> and buggy_semaphore=1?
[08:08] <Diuneimama> Question : if i download and installed package or file.. where usually it locates???????
[08:08] <charims> crimsun: it has the problem with the drivers again, it says, xine could not initialize dsound drivers
[08:09] <charims> crimsun: hey, i g2g now
[08:09] <Diuneimama> y when its loading the bar it will say package damge or something like that
[08:09] <charims> crimsun: goodnight
[08:10] <Jlone> so far other users are having the same problem as me
[08:10] <Jlone> it worked fine for me with suse 10.1
[08:10] <Jlone> but not kubuntu
[08:11] <crimsun> Jlone: mount |grep ntfs
[08:12] <Jlone> ok
[08:13] <Jlone> that didnt work
[08:13] <Jlone> I can access the files
[08:13] <Jlone> That's not the problem
[08:13] <crimsun> good, that's what the first step in troubleshooting is
[08:14] <crimsun> next, dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii |awk '{print $3}'
[08:14] <Jlone> ok
[08:15] <Jlone> not sure what that did
[08:15] <Diuneimama> Question : if i download and installed package or file.. where usually it locates???????
[08:16] <abattoir> Diuneimama: /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:16] <crimsun> Jlone: you were supposed to tell us the output from that command
[08:17] <Jlone> it didnt output anything to konsole
[08:18] <Jlone> thats why i said i dont know what that did lol
[08:18] <abattoir> Diuneimama: that is ofcourse, if you downloaded/installed w/ apt-get/adept
[08:19] <Diuneimama> thanks abattoir
[08:20] <Diuneimama> abattoir if u wanted to install them wat should i do?
[08:20] <Jlone> maybe i should just go back to suse
[08:21] <crimsun> Jlone: so install libxine-extracodecs
[08:21] <abattoir> Diuneimama: 'sudo dpkg -i <packagename>'
[08:21] <crimsun> Jlone: you need that package so amarok can play mp3s
[08:21] <flaccid> hmm what is ~/.rnd?
[08:21] <Diuneimama> ok abbattoir
[08:21] <crimsun> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:21] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:21] <Diuneimama> thnks
[08:21] <abattoir> Diuneimama: or 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package' if you arent in the dir. where the file is
[08:22] <Jlone> hmmm
[08:23] <crimsun> libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse and requires both universe and multiverse to be enabled.
[08:23] <Jlone> Thats not available to me in adept
[08:24] <abattoir> Jlone: you must enable the multiverse repostitory
[08:24] <abattoir> !repos
[08:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:25] <abattoir> Jlone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:27] <Jlone> That link is broken
[08:27] <Jlone> or their help pages are down
[08:29] <Jlone> grrrr!
[08:30] <Jlone> All im trying to do is listen to some mp3's while i read up on this stuff
[08:32] <XVampireX> Jlone: Hey, what are you trying to do?
[08:32] <paul___> Jlone: type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list into the konsole and make sure the following line is in there: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[08:32] <XVampireX> !multimedia
[08:32] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:36] <Jlone> There's a bunch of shit in there lol
[08:37] <Jlone> oh wait
[08:37] <Jlone> i see what you mean
[08:37] <Jlone> i have to uncomment some stuff
[08:37] <Jlone> ok
[08:37] <Jlone> done
[08:39] <Jlone> ok it seems there is an update for amarok
[08:39] <Jlone> maybe that will fix the problem
[08:39] <Jlone> hope so*!
[08:42] <Jlone> ok now amarok is asking me if i want to "Enable restriced software from multiverse?"
[08:42] <Jlone> Do I want to do that?
[08:43] <Jlone> OMG it worked. ThANK YOU!
[08:47] <sans> hi all
[08:47] <sans> i'm on edgy
[08:47] <sans> i survived
[08:47] <sans> haha
[08:48] <sans> wait, where's my k-pilot!?!
[09:07] <madhatter_> hey everyone
[09:07] <madhatter_> whats up?
[09:08] <madhatter_> looks like rt 2500 drivers are installed on the machine after a fresh install, but how do i configure a connection??
[09:08] <madhatter_> wireless assistant freezes everytime i try to activate
[09:09] <madhatter_> ra0
[09:09] <madhatter_> hello??
[09:14] <word> is there a way to erm upgrade kubuntu from 32 bit to 64 bit?
[09:15] <dan__> hey i need help
[09:15] <madhatter_> i thought so
[09:16] <madhatter_> but u might need to get a new distro
[09:16] <dan__> whos good with linux
[09:16] <madhatter_> not me =( but go ahead and ask
[09:16] <madhatter_> i doubt i can help
[09:16] <dan__> i just installed it but it wont let me download and run stuff like windows would
[09:17] <madhatter_> word: check http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27515.html
[09:17] <word> dan__: you can't run .exes in linux without some doing and even then it doesn't always work
[09:17] <dan__> i want to install limewire and nero
[09:18] <StrudelNinja> there's linuxy options out there, but I don't think there's a version of either for linux
[09:19] <madhatter_> dan: me too, but i dont know how either lol
[09:20] <madhatter_> dan: your best bet is to look for wiki howtos or walkthroughs or whatever and start to learn that way
[09:21] <dan__> can you install itunes on kubuntu
[09:21] <madhatter_> can anyone tell me why wireless assistant freezes every time i try to activate my card??
[09:28] <word> dan__: no but you'll find that Amarok is a much better alternative
[09:29] <dan__> so i cant use my ipod with linux
[09:29] <word> k3b is going to be your cd burner and you'll have to find a dvd burner program. Limewire i think..is java so you'll probably be able to get that running if you install the java runtime (howto is on the wiki) but i hear frostwire is better
[09:29] <word> dan__: nope didn't say that if it didn't it wouldn't be 'much better'
[09:30] <word> dan__: although you won't be able to use the music store and get your existing songs from it without itunes...there are some efforts being made by the people at wine to get it running on linux.
[09:32] <dan__> so can i upload music onto my ipod from linux
[09:37] <word> dan__: it's called transfering but yes
[09:40] <Drako60> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22415  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22414  i need some help figuring out what those two segfaults are and a fix, first is XMMS second is VLC
[09:42] <abattoir> word: k3b can handle dvds... cant it?
[09:46] <word> abattoir: probably..but i don't think it does with as many options as nero
[09:47] <AZ_AS> well, finally trying out amarok, and I love it! :D
[09:47] <word> ummm..why would network access to a secondary drive sata with an xfs file system cause it to die?
[09:47] <AZ_AS> I've never seen such a nicely integrated lyrics script
[09:48] <dan__> how do i install java runtime
[09:48] <abattoir> word: really? i wonder what options those are....
[09:48] <word> abattoir: well not nescesarily for burning..but you can create dvds dvd menus and a whole bunch of other things with nero
[09:49] <abattoir> !info sun-java5-jre
[09:49] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[09:49] <abattoir> dan__: ^^^ its in multiverse you can do a 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre' if you have it enabled...
[09:49] <abattoir> dan__: else you could download the self extracting .bin from java.com and extract it yourself
[09:52] <dan__> how do i extract it
[09:52] <abattoir> dan__: have you downloaded the file? where have you saved it?
[09:53] <dan__> its saved to the home folder
[09:53] <plugs> is it very hard to add a second hard drive?
[09:53] <abattoir> dan__: ok, open a terminal(konsole)
[09:54] <abattoir> dan__: and you have the .bin file.. right?
[09:55] <abattoir> plugs: what exactly do you mean?
[09:55] <dan__> no it just sais dan@dan:~$
[09:55] <abattoir> dan__: ok, but the file that you downloaded ends with .bin... correct?
[09:56] <dan__> yes
[09:56] <abattoir> dan__: ok, now type into konsole the following commands..(which are within the quotes)
[09:56] <abattoir> dan__: 'sudo mkdir /usr/java'
[09:57] <abattoir> dan__: you'll be prompted for you password now.... please enter it
[09:58] <plugs> abattoir i want to add a second hard drive internally, and run windows on that and kubuntu on my current one, instead of partitioning my current drive. is this possible?
[09:58] <Tm_T> hi abattoir
[09:58] <abattoir> plugs: yes, its possible
[09:58] <abattoir> hello Tm_T :)
[09:59] <abattoir> plugs: get a new hard drive, put it in, install windows, and then reinstall the boot loader
[10:00] <plugs> I can reinstall and it will sort itself out? good, i was thinking i'd have to configure it
[10:00] <abattoir> plugs: aah, yes, by reinstall, i meant reconfiguring it too :P
[10:00] <plugs> well ya a little of each =] 
[10:00] <dan__> abattoir: it sais command not found
[10:01] <abattoir> dan__: for what? make sure you didnt include the quotes( '  ')
[10:07] <Diuneimama_> !dkpg
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dkpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <abattoir> !dpkg
[10:07] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:11] <Nova> Hey guys
[10:12] <dan__> abattoir this is what its saying
[10:12] <dan__> dan@dan:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/java
[10:12] <dan__> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/java': File exists
[10:12] <dan__> dan@dan:~$
[10:13] <abattoir> dan__: ok, you created it the last time you tried it i gues...
[10:13] <Diuneimama_> excuse me people wat is the difference between libwine and libwine-hq
[10:13] <dan__> so what do i do
[10:13] <dan__> now
[10:14] <Nova> i have a small problem
[10:14] <abattoir> dan__: 'sudo cp ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin'
[10:15] <dan__> abattoir:
[10:15] <dan__> dan@dan:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/java
[10:15] <dan__> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/java': File exists
[10:15] <dan__> dan@dan:~$ sudo cp ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:15] <dan__> cp: cannot stat `/home/dan/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
[10:15] <Nova> I set up my wireless dongle, but i does'nt altomatically connect when i switch on, does anyknow how to fix this
[10:15] <Nova> ?
[10:15] <abattoir> dan__: is the file you downloaded in /home/dan? is the name the same?
[10:17] <dan__> abbattoir: the file name is: j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin
[10:18] <abattoir> dan__: that is the SDK, do you want the software devel. kit or the runtime environment?
[10:19] <abattoir> dan__: my guess is the latter
[10:19] <abattoir> dan__: http://jdl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=10336
[10:19] <abattoir> dan__: or rather go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[10:20] <abattoir> and select Linux(self-extracting file).... not Linux RPM
[10:20] <kristina> hi @ all
[10:21] <dan__> abattoir: it opend with a shell script
[10:22] <kristina> how to mount ntfs hdd 4 ever? how i have to add or change something in the fstab file
[10:22] <kristina> ?
[10:22] <abattoir> dan__: you clicked on the second link and downloaded the .bin file?
[10:22] <dan__> yes the self extraction one
[10:22] <abattoir> ok, and you saved it to your home folder?
[10:23] <abattoir> dan__: then do 'sudo cp ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin'
[10:23] <dan__> first it opend in ark then i clicked it and it opened the shell script
[10:23] <livingdaylight> hi
[10:24] <Nova> I set up my wireless dongle, but i does'nt altomatically connect when i switch on, does anyknow how to fix this
[10:24] <livingdaylight> for kubuntu automatix applies equally of course?
[10:24] <dan__> okay after the 'sudo cp ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin' what do i do
[10:25] <abattoir> dan__: 'cd /usr/java' and 'sudo sh ./jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:25] <abattoir> dan__: you'd get a license agreement dialog.... read through it and type 'yes' at the end
[10:25] <TheGateKeeper_> anyone remember the name of the empty file you need to add to stop (k)ubuntu doing it's file system check on boot up?
[10:25] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper_: well, you can modify /etc/fstab...
[10:26] <dan__> abattoir it said:
[10:26] <dan__> dan@dan:~$ sudo cp ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:26] <dan__> Password:
[10:26] <dan__> dan@dan:~$ cd /usr/java' and 'sudo sh ./jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:26] <dan__> bash: cd: /usr/java and sudo: No such file or directory
[10:26] <dan__> dan@dan:~$
[10:26] <plugs> i always think of sudowoodo
[10:26] <abattoir> dan__: first do 'cd /usr/java'
[10:26] <abattoir> dan__: and then do the 'sudo sh...' command
[10:27] <TheGateKeeper_> abattoir: got a failing memory I think all you need to do is create an empty file called .fastboot or .faststart or something like that
[10:27] <livingdaylight> Hello?
[10:27] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper_: oh, ok, then, i dont know that
[10:27] <abattoir> livingdaylight: yes..?
[10:27] <livingdaylight> its a rather simple question; does one just keep repeating it?
[10:27] <dan__> ok now what
[10:28] <livingdaylight> abattoir: ah...thx
[10:28] <abattoir> livingdaylight: pls. be patient if someone knows the answer, they'd answer it
[10:28] <livingdaylight> abattoir: automatix, does it apply equally to kubuntu?
[10:28] <abattoir> what was your question?
[10:28] <abattoir> livingdaylight: 'apply'?
[10:28] <livingdaylight> abattoir: work for
[10:28] <abattoir> livingdaylight: kubuntu is essentially ubuntu-gnome+kde, so anything which is not gnome dependent should work
[10:28] <TheGateKeeper_> abattoir: what would you do to fstab?
[10:29] <livingdaylight> abattoir: ok, just double checking
[10:29] <PaulioC> I set up my wireless dongle, but i does'nt altomatically connect when i switch on, does anyknow how to fix this
[10:29] <dan__> abattoir: im not sure what to do after that it came up with the license agreement and thank you
[10:29] <livingdaylight> abattoir: how did you install all the codecs etc if not use easyubuntu or automatix script?
[10:29] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper_: in the line which has the entry for the fs, change the last option from 1(if it is the root fs) or 2 to 0... that disables fs checking
[10:30] <abattoir> dan__: yes, if you got through the license agreement part and saw 'Done', then everything is done :)
[10:30] <abattoir> dan__: you can remove the .bin file if you dont want it
[10:30] <abattoir> dan__: 'sudo rm /usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin'
[10:31] <abattoir> dan__:  and 'rm ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:31] <abattoir> dan__:  and 'rm ~/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin'
[10:31] <dan__> abattoir: do i have to do that for everything i install and how do you figure that out
[10:31] <abattoir> livingdaylight: i manually downloaded them and extracted them.
[10:32] <livingdaylight> abattoir: each one, one by one?
[10:32] <TheGateKeeper_> abattoir: ok thanx, my pc gave me a scare the other day wanted to do a reboot after doing a 30 boot file system check
[10:32] <livingdaylight> abattoir: do you know about automatix and easyubuntu?
[10:32] <abattoir> dan__: if you have universe and multiverse enabled, installing stuff is really easy(easier than in windows in my opinion)
[10:32] <livingdaylight> abattoir: makes life easier
[10:32] <abattoir> !universe > dan__
[10:33] <abattoir> livingdaylight: yes, i know about them, but prefer doing it myself, thank you :)
[10:33] <abattoir> dan__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu should help you
[10:34] <abattoir> dan__: once you have that setup, then you can install *almost* all the packages you'd need w/ one command :), or through Adept, if you prefer GUI.
[10:38] <bioticpro> what is a good program to join video clips?
[10:39] <MetaMorfoziS> join?
[10:39] <MetaMorfoziS> avidemux?
[10:39] <MetaMorfoziS> (aptget)
[10:40] <bioticpro> MetaMorfoziS: is that cli program or does it have a gui? (or konq right click)
[10:41] <MetaMorfoziS> it's a gtk app
[10:45] <Lunar_Raven> hey guys..is there a way I can restore the default look of kubuntu (kde)?
[10:46] <octan> morning all
[10:46] <sophtpaw> where is firefox?
[10:46] <obf213> can u send files to anyone not using kopete on kopete
[10:46] <octan> obf213, yes
[10:46] <obf213> octan how
[10:46] <octan> im irretated on my kde
[10:47] <octan> everytime i login to kde i get this wizard up
[10:47] <sophtpaw> adept tells me i have  firefox already installed, but i don't see it in Applications/Internet
[10:47] <octan> i dosent help if i compleate it
[10:47] <obf213> sophtpaw just log out and lgo back it
[10:47] <obf213> octan how do i do it
[10:47] <octan> somekool, try type it on cli
[10:47] <sophtpaw> out of kubuntu or adapt?
[10:47] <abattoir> octan: kpersonalizer?
[10:48] <Lunar_Raven> sophtpaw...try going to your menu, run...and type firefox, then hit enter.
[10:48] <Lunar_Raven> or from a console, of course
[10:48] <octan> obf213 your talking about the msn stuff right
[10:48] <sophtpaw> Lunar_Raven: why would it not be in my menu?
[10:48] <Lunar_Raven> Uh, I'm not sure on that one
[10:48] <Lunar_Raven> it should be
[10:48] <abattoir> sophtpaw: there is a 'bug' w/ adept where it doesnt update the menu on installation currently
[10:49] <paul___> I set up my wireless dongle, but i does'nt altomatically connect when i switch on, does anyknow how to fix this? Thanks
[10:49] <fdoving> is that adept? isn't it kbuildsycoca?
[10:49] <obf213> on kopete
[10:49] <obf213> i have aim but i can send files to any of friends with aim
[10:49] <Lunar_Raven> would anyone know how I could restore default settings to my kubuntu desktop?
[10:49] <sophtpaw> Does Firefox come with Kubuntu by default?
[10:49] <Lunar_Raven> sopht, no
[10:49] <Lunar_Raven> it doesnt
[10:49] <sophtpaw> tried running it from shell and run command  - didn't work
[10:50] <sophtpaw> then Adept lied about it being installed
[10:50] <Lunar_Raven> from shell, try installing it
[10:50] <abattoir> fdoving: well... i dont know... it is added when i use apt-get
[10:50] <Lunar_Raven> sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:50] <kutan> !audacity
[10:50] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[10:50] <Lunar_Raven> see if that works
[10:50] <Diuneimama> hi all, i had used apt-get
[10:50] <Diuneimama> but y its say cannot open lock file
[10:51] <Lunar_Raven> do you have adept open diune?
[10:51] <Lunar_Raven> or any other package manger
[10:51] <octan> obf213,  i dont know what you mean,, i just clickl on my frien in the contact list then on the chat menu at top i have a send file function
[10:51] <fdoving> abattoir: hmm.. strange.
[10:51] <abattoir> !adept-crash-fix
[10:51] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[10:51] <Lunar_Raven> something is using your package management system...so its 'locked'
[10:51] <obf213> i dont i guess kopete doesnt support it w/ aim.
[10:51] <octan> abattoir,  kpersonalizer?
[10:52] <peter____> hello, how can i restore the original login screen after installing kde, and xfce?
[10:52] <abattoir> octan: the wizard which you get at startup
[10:52] <Lunar_Raven> obf, if you want to send via aim.....install gaim
[10:52] <octan> yes.. it starts every friking time
[10:52] <octan> :P
[10:52] <Lunar_Raven> file transfers work on that
[10:52] <abattoir> octan: try uninstalling it
[10:52] <Jack12> hi
[10:52] <Lunar_Raven> currently i don't think kopete supports aim file transfers
[10:52] <octan> abattoir, right
[10:52] <k31th> Anyone have jack setup ?
[10:52] <kutan> Hey guys, what URL should I add to the repositories to locate the package for audacity?
[10:52] <Jack12> how can i install dial on demand for my kubuntu?
[10:53] <octan> --force?
[10:53] <fdoving> !universe
[10:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:53] <Lunar_Raven> !kubuntu-settings
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-settings - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <abattoir> kutan: ^^^
[10:53] <fdoving> kutan: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[10:53] <Lunar_Raven> ehh
[10:53] <Lunar_Raven> !kde
[10:53] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:53] <octan> anyone know c++ here?
[10:54] <Jack12> fdoving: was this a reply to my question?
[10:54] <abattoir> octan: why do you ask?
[10:54] <fdoving> Jack12: no, i'm sorry.
[10:54] <fdoving> Jack12: how did you setup your current connection?
[10:55] <Jack12> via commandline
[10:55] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[10:55] <fdoving> Jack12: what command do you use to dial?
[10:55] <Jack12> i just forgot the command right now
[10:55] <Jack12> sry
[10:55] <octan> abattoir coz im trying to make a app that has cli options, i been googling and i see something called getopt. there is also something called GetOpt. but im intressted in getopt but i cant find any doc| examples on it
[10:55] <fdoving> Jack12: pppconfig ? and pon /poff ?
[10:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey abattoir and everyone else...
[10:56] <fdoving> hi milhousepunkrock.
[10:56] <Jack12> pppconfig ..i dont need usually pon and poff it automatically starts with the internet
[10:56] <Jack12> fdoving:
[10:57] <abattoir> octan: http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Example-of-Getopt.html#Example-of-Getopt ??
[10:57] <abattoir> octan: http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Getopt.html is the parent
[10:57] <fdoving> Jack12: you could take a look at http://www.davidpashley.com/articles/wvdial-pppd-dod.html
[10:58] <octan> abattoir that was GetOPt
[10:58] <octan> im talking about getopt
[10:59] <abattoir> octan: heh, i dont know which is which... the same page refers to the function as getopt and Getopt
[10:59] <Jack12> fdoving: is ppoeconf possible? does it make a difference?
[10:59] <fdoving> Jack12: you can use pppconfig too.
[10:59] <fdoving> if you want to.
[11:00] <octan> abattoir, getopt != GetOpt :)
[11:01] <Jack12> thnak you fdoving
[11:02] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all .. I built a Kubuntu box for some people, and they have some questions. I tried to boot into the livecd/install cd and the only options I've got are Text install repair install etc etc .. I use Ubuntu (came from Gentoo originally) so I'm not totally comfy in KDE's desktop. Ideas?
[11:02] <octan> abattoir, i found what i was looking for :) #c++ is helpfull :D http://www.hmug.org/man/3/getopt.php
[11:03] <abattoir> octan: ah, ok :)
[11:03] <Lynoure> NineTeen67Comet: What are the questions?
[11:03] <fdoving> your welcome jack12.
[11:04] <Lynoure> NineTeen67Comet: What are you trying to do?
[11:04] <NineTeen67Comet> Lynoure: they just need to change to DHCP is all .. I sent them a link, and an explanation via e-mail .. it would just be better if I could walk with them over the phone ..
[11:05] <jott_> octan: you could also do a "man 3 getopt" when you have installed manpages-dev
[11:05] <octan> jott_ right :) thxz for the tip
[11:06] <NineTeen67Comet> They aren't literate enough to jump to an idea if I get them close, they are very literal. They need to know K-manu>System Settings>Network Settings Admin Password, network card, config change, dhcp .. etc etc .. I tried to get them in the ball park and they freaked ..
[11:07] <jott_> octan: (the 3 refers to the library calls section)
[11:07] <octan> oh. that i didnt know ;)
[11:07] <Lynoure> NineTeen67Comet: you do not need to boot with the livecd for that, just boot normally open a terminal and from that it's pretty much like prolly in gentoo
[11:07] <abattoir> NineTeen67Comet: sorry if i've missed something, but what has fixing that got to do w/ the install/live cd?
[11:08] <octan> i learn something new everyday :D
[11:08] <NineTeen67Comet> Lynoure: lol .. they can hardly double click, I don't think walking them through CLI would take well ..
[11:08] <Lynoure> NineTeen67Comet: just because you can use the gui does not mean you need to
[11:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Does anyone now a poker site that has a Linux client too?
[11:08] <NineTeen67Comet> abattoir: when I boot into the live cd .. it doesn't give me a desktop (to use while I talk to them on the phone) ..
[11:09] <Lynoure> NineTeen67Comet: actually, often CLI is easier to explain and less risky
[11:09] <abattoir> NineTeen67Comet: the first option in the Live Cd does that.... 'Start Kubuntu', iirc
[11:09] <abattoir> NineTeen67Comet: it is identical to the ubuntu live cd in those aspects
[11:10] <NineTeen67Comet> Lynoure: I tried to get them to do a simple top -d 1 command and it blew their mind .. I think eth0 192.168.0.2 up followed by route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0 .. would kill them on the spot ..
[11:10] <KCmoore> Ooo
[11:10] <Lunar_Raven> nine:  K-Menu, System Settings, Network Settings...then click on Administration Mode, type in your password, hit enter... click the interface that's listed, click configure interface, and there you can change DHCP
[11:10] <Lunar_Raven> heh
[11:10] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[11:10] <NineTeen67Comet> abattoir: there is no Applications button in KDE .. that's how non linier they are .. I'm telling you . they are about as understanding as a 2X4 ..
[11:10] <KCmoore> I'm trying out kubuntu1
[11:10] <apmyp> why in KWeather i can`t find "Latvia"?
[11:11] <KCmoore> Damn KDE is hot.
[11:11] <KCmoore> So much better looking than Xubuntu
[11:11] <Lunar_Raven> yeah
[11:11] <Lunar_Raven> xubuntu is kind of..ehhh...
[11:11] <Lunar_Raven> but i use it on my laptop
[11:11] <NineTeen67Comet> It's no biggie I guess, the live cd didn't work in my lappy either (I had kubuntu on that one for a while too .. just don't get it) ..
[11:11] <Lunar_Raven> its fast
[11:12] <abattoir> NineTeen67Comet: you could try the 'safe mode' thing(the 2nd option in the livecd boot menu)
[11:12] <KCmoore> My friend was like: What?! thats not Mac or Windows?!?!?! WHAT IS IT?!
[11:12] <Lynoure> NineTeen67Comet: do they have network access now? If yes, there is vnc... or asking them for the relevant files and just patching them
[11:12] <NineTeen67Comet> Think second option was "Repair Install" .. it wasn't the normal boot up that the live cd gives me normally .. I use it at work often to show Linux to people ..
[11:13] <KCmoore> Installing kubuntu messed up my amarok
[11:13] <KCmoore> I had amarok fast forward now I have the old one
[11:13] <KCmoore> :(
[11:13] <NineTeen67Comet> Lynoure:  they have their MS box hooked to the www, but the Kubuntu box is not hooked up (No DHCP selected .. it's got my manual ip stuff in it right now, and they are about a 45 minute drive away so I can't just run over and fix it) ..
[11:13] <apmyp> I cant open this page http://www.google.com/notebook/ in Konqueror!
[11:14] <MetaMorfoziS> why use konqueror?:D
[11:14] <abattoir> apmyp: works for me...
[11:14] <NineTeen67Comet> Lynoure: I asked them to forwared port 22 to their Kubuntu computer and they hung up on me ..
[11:14] <abattoir> apmyp: i have a firefox id for *.google.com/* though
[11:14] <KCmoore> It works in konqueror
[11:14] <KCmoore> I'm sick of konqueror
[11:14] <KCmoore> I use nautilus and firefox.
[11:14] <KCmoore> Seriously
[11:15] <KCmoore> What is up with the kde dragon mascot?!
[11:15] <Lynoure> NineTeen67Comet: Nasty of them. Are they at least paying for your time?
[11:15] <bioticpro> I like konq, its faster and renders better looking than firefox
[11:15] <jott_> opera ftw :p
[11:15] <Lynoure> apmyp: I get it open fine
[11:15] <apmyp> abattoir: why Konqueror cent do  this?
[11:15] <KCmoore> Ahh opera...
[11:16] <NineTeen67Comet> Lynoure: they paid me for the hardware, and it's an OLD ass computer so XP wouldn't run for them (Wouldn't even detect hardware) .. so I told them I use linux, and it would run great on there .. it does, but they are a work .. Once they are on the www, they are gone off my radar ..
[11:16] <KCmoore> I've been using tmsnc for ages
[11:16] <abattoir> apmyp: it works in Konqueror :)
[11:16] <KCmoore> But now I can use Konqueror!
[11:16] <Diuneimama> !mp3player
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <apmyp> Lynoure: do you know how you do it?
[11:16] <Diuneimama> !mp3 player
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <NineTeen67Comet> Lynoure: they brought a computer over, needed a hd, ram, vid card ..
[11:16] <KCmoore> !amarok
[11:16] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[11:16] <abattoir> apmyp: but services like Gmail have problem w/ konq.(not the other way around)... a simple Tools->Change browser ID->Firefox fixes this
[11:16] <apmyp> !konqueror
[11:16] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 1911 kB, installed size 5168 kB
[11:17] <Lynoure> apmyp: I started konqueror and pasted in the url
[11:17] <KCmoore> !Linus Torvalds
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Linus Torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <apmyp> 
[11:18] <apmyp> but Kweather do not work
[11:18] <NineTeen67Comet> Lynoure: and abattoir thanks much for your time .. off to dink with my own junk .. lol
[11:18] <apmyp> there is no Latvia/Riga in there
[11:18] <KCmoore> Hey, whats a sweet kde icon set?
[11:19] <apmyp> KCmoore: Human
[11:19] <abattoir> KCmoore: Crystal Clear...
[11:19] <Lynoure> apmyp: what kind of problem/error you get?
[11:19] <KCmoore> Nooo!
[11:19] <abattoir> KCmoore: realistiK is a new iconset... its a compilation from other sets.... and it looks great too :)
[11:20] <flaccid> what is the default runlevel for kubuntu and how can i find out what the current runlevel is?
[11:20] <apmyp> Lynoure: in applet KWeather i cant find my Country: Europe/Latvia
[11:21] <sum> hallo?
[11:21] <apmyp> hi
[11:21] <Lynoure> apmyp: I meant with konqueror?
[11:21] <sum> knnen wir hier auch auf deutsch reden?
[11:21] <KCmoore> OMG realistik looks sweet!
[11:21] <abattoir> !de
[11:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:21] <KCmoore> 21 MB though!!!
[11:21] <sum> thx
[11:21] <abattoir> KCmoore: its worth it ;)
[11:22] <apmyp> Lynoure: Google Notebook
[11:22] <apmyp> dont work
[11:22] <Lynoure> apmyp: What error message?
[11:22] <jott_> apmyp: you could try to edit ~/.kde/share/config/weather_panelappletrc and enter your station in the record_location=...
[11:22] <apmyp> jott_: thanks
[11:23] <KCmoore> Ok. downloading @ 10kb/s
[11:23] <KCmoore> Ew, thats slow
[11:24] <KCmoore> The kde look servers must be really slow.
[11:24] <abattoir> KCmoore: its hosted externally... not on kde-look
[11:25] <Ashex> night
[11:26] <flaccid> can qtparted do usb flash drivers/mass storage?
[11:26] <mortenskyt> yes
[11:26] <flaccid> oh sweet
[11:26] <flaccid> i see!
[11:26] <mortenskyt> (-:
[11:27] <flaccid> sometimes i have to reboot to be able to make changes in qtparted after applying a change
[11:27] <paul___> I set up my wireless dongle, but i does'nt altomatically connect when i switch on, does anyknow how to fix this
[11:27] <mortenskyt> what? doesn't make sense
[11:27] <mortenskyt> flaccid: should just be a matter of unmounting first
[11:27] <mortenskyt> then you should be able to do whatever partitioning you feel like
[11:27] <apmyp> Lynoure: Loading... everytime
[11:28] <mortenskyt> and changes will apply immediately
[11:28] <apmyp> Loading...Loading...Loading...Loading...
[11:28] <abattoir> apmyp: try changing the id
[11:28] <apmyp> Firefox 1.0
[11:28] <apmyp> Loading...
[11:28] <apmyp> dont work
[11:28] <abattoir> apmyp: well, it works for me
[11:29] <flaccid> mortenskyt: not in this case
[11:29] <flaccid> can't you do fat32 on usb flash?
[11:29] <mortenskyt> yes, it's called vfat I think
[11:29] <abattoir> apmyp: change to firefox 1.5
[11:30] <abattoir> apmyp: 1.5.04, if you have it
[11:30] <abattoir> apmyp: i guess it works only w/ firefox, as it installs an ff extension
[11:31] <flaccid> mortenskyt: vfat is not listed only fat16
[11:31] <mortenskyt> hm...
[11:31] <abattoir> apmyp: or you could do it manually
[11:31] <kutan> >_< I've been trying to figure out how to get audacity this entire time, can someone just give me a URL for the repositories?
[11:31] <flaccid> doesn't matter. good enough..
[11:32] <mortenskyt> I don't know, during reinstallation of kubuntu a few days ago, the installer had some nice partitioner
[11:32] <mortenskyt> could do pretty much any format, that one must be somewhere around in the distro
[11:32] <JohnFlux> mortenskyt: qparted
[11:32] <abattoir> kutan: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu follow the instructions, enable universe
[11:32] <mortenskyt> yea, probably, just seemed like it could do more formats
[11:33] <apmyp> i cant change: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Linux i686; ru; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041108 Firefox/1.0
[11:33] <JohnFlux> qtparted  rather
[11:33] <abattoir> kutan: then you'd find audacity in adept... or you could install w/ 'sudo apt-get install audacity'
[11:33] <kutan> Thanks.
[11:33] <abattoir> buz: 'apt-cache show <package>'
[11:34] <buz> abattoir: thanks
[11:34] <abattoir> buz: or click on the package in adept also shows the section
[11:34] <buz> (hopefully it does support wildcards)
[11:34] <flaccid> qtparted doesn't present an option for fat32 for my usb drive
[11:34] <abattoir> *clicking
[11:34] <mortenskyt> flaccid: try use vfat
[11:34] <flaccid> there is no vfat!
[11:34] <mortenskyt> oh, hm, I have option fat32 in my qtparted I can see
[11:34] <flaccid> no option
[11:35] <flaccid> mortenskyt: is it a usb drive?
[11:35] <mortenskyt> nope
[11:35] <mortenskyt> anyway, do it manually
[11:35] <flaccid> exactly
[11:35] <fdoving> buz: you can't do that, unless you have all the repositories present in /etc/apt/sources.list, then you can use 'apt-cache policy package' and compare the versionnumber of Installed and the version table.
[11:35] <mortenskyt> shouldn't be hard, du it from the console... brb phone
[11:35] <flaccid> with which binary?
[11:35] <buz> fdoving: that might be what i want, thanks
[11:35] <kutan> That's weird abattoir, I did the command to install it but it says "Unable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?"
[11:36] <kutan> Oh nevermind, it's because adept was open
[11:36] <abattoir> kutan: you might have another instance of apt-get/adept running
[11:36] <abattoir> :)
[11:36] <kutan> but now it just says "couldn't find package"
[11:36] <kutan> I don't know why it's not working now, I did this twice before.
[11:36] <mortenskyt> flaccid: in the console, you can't just do a mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1 (or whatever your partition on your usbdisk is)?
[11:36] <fdoving> buz: you can easily find out if it's from universe or from main etc. but it's harder to find out if it's from let's say uk.archive.ubuntu.com or mirror.example.com for example.
[11:36] <abattoir> kutan: did you click on 'Fetch Updates' ?
[11:37] <fdoving> buz: don't know if it's usefull to you, but i find 'apt-cache madison packagename' very handy.
[11:37] <KCmoore> WTF, when I download stuff it opens up Kate!
[11:37] <buz> fdoving: well i'm having some third party packages that pose issues with an edgy update
[11:37] <kutan> ...oops XD
[11:37] <buz> i want to get rid of them, but first i need to find them all ;)
[11:37] <kutan> I always forget 1 little thing
[11:42] <KCmoore> Konqui is such a pimp
[11:42] <buz> fdoving: madison is perfect, thanks
[11:54] <kraut> moin
[11:54] <Fade> good morning.
[11:54] <The_Stephan> morning
[11:55] <fdoving> morning.
[11:55] <fdoving> !adept crash fix > fdoving
[11:56] <Fade> well, the move from dapper -> edgy was fun.
[11:57] <Fade> the X packages weren't totally sorted out. tht took awhile to straighten out. also, the kernel shipped for powerpc on edgy doesn't boot my machine because it can't mount the root fs.
[12:03] <buz> i think i'll resist the urge to upgrade to edgy for now then
[12:06] <nagyv> I have a properly running kubuntu, but read the "features" of automatix, and would like to know more about swiftfox. Is it safe to install it or it is more buggy?
[12:07] <fdoving> !swiftfox
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <fdoving> nagyv: generally we don't recommend using automatix.
[12:07] <fdoving> !automatix
[12:07] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[12:07] <fdoving> I don't know anything about swiftfox though.
[12:07] <nagyv> fdoving: I know this. I was asking about swiftfox.
[12:07] <nagyv> fdoving: thx
[12:08] <Jucato> nagyv: I heard some people having good experiences with swiftfox. I personally haven't tried it so I can't give my own opinion..
[12:08] <fdoving> http://www.getswiftfox.com/ubuntu.htm
[12:09] <KCmoore> I'm just installing the realistik icon set
[12:10] <Jucato> KCmoore: it's nice isn't it?
[12:10] <KCmoore> Yeah, it looks pretty sweet.
[12:10] <KCmoore> I haven't installed all of it just yet though
[12:10] <Jucato> I have. :-D
[12:11] <ROBOd> hello guys
[12:11] <ROBOd> it's me again :)
[12:11] <Jucato> although I used the script to change the K Menu icon from the ferny default to the cool K Menu icon
[12:11] <ROBOd> i downloaded polyester, i konfigured my KDE colour theme. now KDE looks almost like ubuntu
[12:11] <KCmoore> OMG
[12:12] <KCmoore> *gsms*
[12:12] <ROBOd> however ... i can't get rid of the blue icons :)
[12:12] <KCmoore> It makes Mac look dodgey
[12:12] <ROBOd> i selected the Human icons theme in kcontrol
[12:12] <ROBOd> it works, it changes most of the icons. but... it doesn't change the folder & file icons
[12:12] <Jucato> yeah the Human icons are orange. you can download a set like that fro KDE-Look
[12:12] <ROBOd> why?
[12:13] <ROBOd> Jucato: i downloaded one. it works ... *but* ... that set is incomplete
[12:13] <ROBOd> and many icons are missing
[12:14] <KCmoore> Gah
[12:14] <KCmoore> This just looks so good!
[12:14] <ROBOd> i don't know why kubuntu guys don't try to make it kde stuff look like gnome (or vice-versa ... or a new theme that both teams agree upon)
[12:14] <KCmoore> I need to dump girlfriend.
[12:15] <KCmoore> and ask realistik out on a date.
[12:15] <ROBOd> one can't realistically expect a user to utilise only kde stuff, only gnome stuff
[12:15] <Dannilion> I found that gnome apps look better in KDE than KDE apps look in Gnome
[12:16] <Dannilion> one of the reasons I use Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu
[12:16] <ROBOd> :)
[12:16] <KCmoore> kde apps actually work in gnome?
[12:16] <KCmoore> Gah
[12:16] <KCmoore> I'm just so sick of xfce
[12:16] <Dannilion> they did for me
[12:16] <ROBOd> lol
[12:16] <ROBOd> they work
[12:16] <KCmoore> ANYTHING looks better than xfce
[12:17] <Dannilion> What? Even Windows? :P
[12:17] <KCmoore> NO!
[12:17] <bas89> nooo
[12:17] <Fade> why are you using it? I haven't seen xfce for years. :)
[12:17] <KCmoore> Its all I've ever known
[12:17] <KCmoore> I grew some balls and switched to kde just today
[12:17] <Fade> you're like that guy in the lab that still uses twm. :)
[12:17] <KCmoore> Its sooo pretty
[12:17] <KCmoore> Hardly
[12:18] <KCmoore> I used to use Mandriva with icewm too.
[12:18] <KCmoore> That wasn't that good.
[12:18] <Dannilion> my KDE is pretty now I've messed with it
[12:18] <Fade> I used enlightenment from the time it was just an fvwm hack until a couple of years ago and then switched to kde.
[12:18] <Dannilion> It's officially cute
[12:18] <Fade> lol. nicely put
[12:19] <ROBOd> so, how to get rid of blue icons? :)
[12:19] <KCmoore> Enlightenment looks pretty cool
[12:19] <Fade> install a new icon theme.
[12:19] <Dannilion> I need purple icons
[12:20] <Dannilion> The the KMenu icon has been replaced with Tux
[12:20] <Fade> enlightenment is pretty cool. it's funny that people used to criticise it based on how 'bloated' it was. now I use it on small footprint hardware. :)
[12:20] <ROBOd> btw, i don't like the new theme in kubuntu edgy eft
[12:20] <ROBOd> tooooo purple
[12:20] <Fade> I'm a monochromat. the only spectra I can see is in the blue range.
[12:20] <KCmoore> Hey, how to I install window decorations?
[12:20] <Dannilion> Edgy Eft is Purple?
[12:22] <Haz> Dannilion, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu
[12:22] <Dannilion> thanks
[12:22] <ROBOd> any human icon theme that actually works in kde?
[12:22] <Haz> anytime :D
[12:22] <Dannilion> just got there from Google :P
[12:23] <KCmoore>  Hey, how to I install window decorations?+
[12:23] <Fade> [ http://vader.deepsky.com:8080/us/201121d4 ] [ Trouble on the Debian Front? ] 
[12:23] <Fade> install a new style from the system settings application in appearance.
[12:25] <Dannilion> that purple isn't very nice
[12:25] <Dannilion> I'll just use my purple theme
[12:27] <zorgluuu> you think too, hey ? :)
[12:27] <Dannilion> yup
[12:27] <zorgluuu> i think it will go away before release due to public pressure :)
[12:28] <Dannilion> I like lilacs and dark purples
[12:28] <Dannilion> but not wishy washy purples
[12:28] <Dannilion> that's too wishy waashy
[12:28] <zorgluuu> from here it seems like a 'personnal choise' of the theme guys. and i dont think it will be popular enought to stay
[12:29] <Dannilion> yeah
[12:29] <zorgluuu> they should do poll or something
[12:29] <Dannilion> Yup
[12:29] <Dannilion> Blue is pretty popular
[12:29] <Diuneimama> hey guys I have a problem connect to the kopete
[12:29] <Dannilion> but purple is an iffy colour if you get the wrong shade
[12:29] <Diuneimama> u guy got any idea?
[12:29] <Dannilion> Diuneimama, what do you mean?
[12:29] <KCmoore> Ehm, that was a little general
[12:30] <Dannilion> yeah :P
[12:30] <KCmoore> How do I install window decorations?
[12:30] <Diuneimama> i mean i cant connect using kopete
[12:30] <Dannilion> Connect to what?>
[12:30] <KCmoore> Use gaim
[12:30] <Diuneimama> after i had reboot
[12:30] <Diuneimama> to msn
[12:30] <KCmoore> or Tmsnc
[12:30] <KCmoore> or aMSN
[12:30] <Diuneimama> KCmoore where to get those file?
[12:30] <Diuneimama> adept manager?
[12:30] <Dannilion> mine works fine (just connected)
[12:30] <Dannilion> Are you behind a proxy?
[12:31] <KCmoore> Synaptic package manager?
[12:31] <Dannilion> sudo apt-get install amsn?
[12:31] <Martijn81> Dannilion: i like blue#055EA3 :)
[12:31] <Diuneimama> i haven download amsn
[12:31] <Diuneimama> can i use "sudo apt-get" ?
[12:31] <KCmoore> Probably
[12:31] <KCmoore> don't though
[12:32] <KCmoore> Its annoying.
[12:32] <KCmoore> apt-get moo
[12:32] <KCmoore> Thats the only apt-get I use
[12:32] <Dannilion> Yes, you can use sudo apt-get install amsn
[12:32] <Dannilion> and it's not that annoying
[12:32] <Diuneimama> Dannilion
[12:32] <Diuneimama> i have conected
[12:32] <KCmoore> So have I
[12:32] <Dannilion> Oh, good!
[12:32] <KCmoore> No
[12:33] <KCmoore> Now*
[12:33] <Dannilion> so have I :P
[12:33] <Dannilion> Might have just been slow
[12:33] <KCmoore> Someone help me with installing window decorations!!!
[12:33] <Diuneimama> Dannilion i didnt no i have to off proxy from the browser
[12:33] <Diuneimama> thanks :)
[12:33] <Dannilion> ahhh, so it was a proxy :)
[12:33] <Dannilion> No problem :)
[12:33] <Dannilion> You caught me in a good mood :P
[12:34] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:35] <Dannilion> hello slow-motion :)
[12:35] <Diuneimama> :)
[12:35] <slow-motion> hi Dannilion
[12:37] <Diuneimama> can i know what player does linux able to use ?
[12:37] <KCmoore> How do I install window decorations?
[12:38] <Diuneimama> KCmoore wat u mean window decorations?
[12:38] <KCmoore> VLC, XMMS, Amarok, Xine, Kaffeine (crap).
[12:38] <KCmoore> Umm
[12:38] <KCmoore> Like
[12:38] <Diuneimama> yup KCmoore
[12:38] <Diuneimama> they are crap
[12:38] <KCmoore> The top of the window
[12:38] <KCmoore> you know
[12:38] <Diuneimama> my com now is totally out of song n movie
[12:39] <Diuneimama> top of the window dun have anything
[12:39] <Diuneimama> :P
[12:39] <KCmoore> You know the theme for the top of the window
[12:40] <Diuneimama> XD
[12:40] <Diuneimama> sorry kcmoore i dun know :(
[12:40] <Diuneimama> dam kopete is really a crap
[12:40] <Diuneimama> lousy
[12:41] <Dannilion> kopete does the job
[12:41] <Dannilion> but there are better clients out there, yes
[12:41] <fdoving> Diuneimama: that's not a very constructive comment.
[12:42] <Diuneimama> Xd
[12:42] <Diuneimama> sorry
[12:43] <Diuneimama> any nice player to introduce to me?
[12:45] <fdoving> music/video ?
[12:45] <fdoving> i use codeine for video.. and amarok for music.
[12:47] <Diuneimama> fdoving : but i cant play mp3 with amarok
[12:47] <fdoving> !mp3
[12:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:47] <fdoving> you need the 'libxine-extracodecs' package i guess.
[12:47] <Diuneimama> can i get it with adept manager?
[12:47] <fdoving> yes. make sure you've enabled the multiverse repository first.
[12:48] <fdoving> !multiverse
[12:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:48] <Diuneimama> fdoving : ok letme try
[12:48] <Diuneimama> fdoving : thanks
[12:48] <fdoving> you're welcome :)
[12:48] <fdoving> details about mp3 support: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-1340337f2ca1d0c54900935468515ba7630fcc59
[12:49] <fdoving> you should look under 'Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)'
[12:49] <fdoving> to enable the multiverse repository read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:49] <Diuneimama> fdoving : ok
[12:52] <Fade> fdoving -- what module do you have loaded to enable the sound chip in your powerbook?
[12:54] <fdoving> Fade: hang on..
[12:54] <KomiaPoika> hi
[12:54] <KomiaPoika> i'm installing kubuntu on my laptop, anyone minds to babysit me a little?
[12:55] <KomiaPoika> when partitioning the hard disk manually, what am i supposed to enter in "label" fields? mount points?
[12:55] <fdoving> Fade: snd-powermac, snd-pcm-oss and snd-seq-oss
[12:55] <Fade> huh
[12:55] <Fade> snd-powermac gives me an error at init time.
[12:56] <Fade> 'snd unknown layout id 0x40'
[12:56] <Fade> and what i've read online indicates that snd-aoa should be the module for new(ish) powerbooks.
[12:56] <fdoving> hmm.. no clue about that..
[12:56] <fdoving> ah..
[12:56] <fdoving> maybe.
[12:56] <fdoving> my ibook is like ~1.5 years old.
[12:57] <fdoving> .. and i get a new battery from the 'blowing-up-batteries-program' :)
[12:58] <Fade> the strange thing is, the default 2.6.15 kernel in dapper drove the soundboard fine, but the snd-powermac module in 2.6.17 doesn't.
[12:59] <KomiaPoika> what is the "label" field in the create partition input box?
[01:00] <Fade> largely unimportant, but I usually set it to match the mountpoint I intend for the partition. ie root for / or user for /usr
[01:04] <KomiaPoika> Fade: how can i create 2 primary partitions and 3 extended partitions ? it seems i cant create more than 4 partitions
[01:04] <Diuneimama> fdoving : i having a problem installing libxine-extracodecs
[01:05] <fdoving> Diuneimama: explain.
[01:05] <Diuneimama> fdoving : its say if i install it will break some packages?
[01:05] <Arepie> how to share a folder in samba ?
[01:06] <Diuneimama> fdoving :  its says couldnot commit changes : there was an error commiting changes. possible there was a problem downloading some packages or the commint would break packages
[01:12] <fdoving> Diuneimama: from konsole, try: 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'
[01:13] <Diuneimama> fdoving ok
[01:18] <Fade> KomiaPoika: you create your two primary paritions, then you create a logical partition, which will hold the remaining ones.
[01:18] <KomiaPoika> Fade: you mean extended?
[01:18] <Fade> not unless the nomenclature in the program has changed. which partitioning program are you using?
[01:19] <Fade> using fdisk, when you choose to create a partition it asks you if you want to create a primary or a logical partition.
[01:19] <Fade> you need to use one of your primary partitions to create the logical one.
[01:20] <Diuneimama> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:20] <Diuneimama>   libxine-extracodecs: Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[01:20] <Diuneimama> E: Broken packages
[01:20] <Diuneimama> fdoving:  this is wat i get
[01:20] <Dannilion> I had broken packages last night
[01:20] <Dannilion> so that's not just you
[01:20] <Diuneimama> hmm
[01:20] <Diuneimama> XD
[01:20] <Diuneimama> LOL
[01:20] <Fade> so you can have hba1, hba2, hba3 as primary, hba4 will be invisible containing the logical volume, and then your remaining partitions will be numbered hda5,6,7
[01:20] <Jucato> ??
[01:21] <KomiaPoika> Fade: i've had little luck with the graphic installer, so now i'm trying the failsafe one
[01:21] <Fade> s/hba/hda
[01:21] <KomiaPoika> Fade: can i /msg you?
[01:22] <Fade> I'd rather you didn't because I might not be here in a few minutes and then the rest of the channel can't help with your questions.
[01:22] <Tadu> Hi everyone, am I the only one whose konsole has stopped knowing bold colors after the upgrade to KDE 3.5.4?
[01:22] <KomiaPoika> should my swap partition be extended from my / partition?
[01:22] <Fade> I almost always put swap in a primary partition.
[01:22] <Fade> although you don't have to.
[01:22] <thomas> is kubuntuforums website down?
[01:23] <Fade> I usually make swap the first partition on the disk, because it's the fastest.
[01:23] <Jucato> thomas: yes I think so
[01:23] <thomas> :(
[01:23] <Jucato> yeah... bummer
[01:23] <thomas> why....
[01:23] <Jucato> I have no idea.
[01:23] <KomiaPoika> Fade: i wanna do something like this:
[01:23] <KomiaPoika> 150mb ext3 /boot primary
[01:23] <KomiaPoika> 15gb xfs / primary
[01:23] <KomiaPoika> 19gb xfs /home
[01:23] <KomiaPoika> 5gb xfs /var
[01:23] <KomiaPoika> 1gb swap
[01:24] <KomiaPoika> but kubuntu wont let me
[01:24] <fdoving> !pastebin
[01:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:24] <Diuneimama> Komia i think u will need more in ex3
[01:25] <zorgluuu> KomiaPoika: out of curiosity, why do you want xfs ?
[01:25] <Fade> swap - 1 primary ; /boot second primary - ext3 ; / third primary xfs ; /home first logical xfs ; /var second logical xfs
[01:25] <KomiaPoika> my friend advised me but i don't know why
[01:26] <thomas> isnt' aaCplus streaming audio format the same as ogg?
[01:26] <KomiaPoika> what is the safest fs as far as brutal loss of power are concerned?
[01:26] <Jucato> thomas: it's up again... probably some problem with the server *shrugs*
[01:26] <thomas> or do i need another decoder
[01:26] <Jucato> thomas: no they are different
[01:26] <Fade> I don't understand the question.
[01:26] <Jucato> you need the w32codecs for that
[01:26] <SonicChao> How do I use Gtk-Qt on Kubuntu?
[01:26] <thomas> Jucato: do you know what decodeer i will need?
[01:26] <Jucato> AFAIK... but there are some streams I couldn't play...
[01:26] <zorgluuu> KomiaPoika: i would advised to go for the widest deployed one. aka ext3
[01:26] <Jucato> thomas: w32codecs, AFAIK
[01:27] <Fade> I'd personally use reiserfs instead of xfs.
[01:27] <Fade> ymmv
[01:27] <KomiaPoika> Fade: why is xfs bettar than ext3?
[01:27] <thomas> isn't it so that they don't work on 64 bit kubuntu?
[01:27] <thomas> Jucato ^
[01:27] <KomiaPoika> Fade: the laptop is at high risk of loss of power and brutal shutdown
[01:27] <zorgluuu> KomiaPoika: except if you are running for kind of highend server, there is no need to do specific stuff
[01:27] <Fade> 'better' depends on the job.
[01:27] <Jucato> thomas: oh I didn't know you were using 64 bit
[01:27] <Fade> for very large files, xfs is very efficient.
[01:27] <zorgluuu> Fade: out of curiosity, why do you use resierfs ?
[01:27] <KomiaPoika> the job is to operate into unstable power conditions and the laptop's battery is dead
[01:28] <Tadu> Hmm, nobody there who has an idea for my problem?
[01:28] <thomas> Jucato: i did not expect you to, either ;)
[01:28] <Fade> but reiser is better with small files and it's faster in general.
[01:28] <buz> i dont trust reiser
[01:28] <buz> at all
[01:28] <Fade> it's also largely understood by the linux boot process.
[01:28] <Jucato> thomas: you might want to ask for help in the forums (ubuntuforums.org and/or kubuntuforums.net)
[01:28] <zorgluuu> Fade: what is the purpose of your computer ? home box ? high end server ? other ?
[01:28] <buz> reiserfs3 is the only fs that trashed partitions completely TWICE
[01:28] <Fade> I have probably 200 terrabytes in reiser volumes and I've never had a problem with it.
[01:28] <SonicChao> Tadu: what problem?
[01:28] <thomas> Could not connect to host kubuntuforums.net. :(
[01:29] <thomas> btw, i will put on my more familiar nickname
[01:29] <buz> xfs is quite impressive on a laptop, but since ext3 is better supported in general, i use ext3 these days
[01:29] <SonicChao> Thomas: drop the "k" =)
[01:29] <Jucato> thomas: I can connect right now...
[01:29] <Fade> buz -- I have hundreds of computers. which one? :)
[01:29] <Fade> although, my powerbook is the only one that runs ubuntu.
[01:29] <zorgluuu> fade: ?
[01:29] <Tadu> SonicChao: my konsole does not print characters in bold at all anymore. In my color scheme, colors 8-15 are the same as colors 0-7, just in bold. Since 3.5.4, they're the same. Nothing bold anymore.
[01:29] <buz> if i could, i'd use ZFS
[01:30] <zorgluuu> thomas: issue with the dns from here
[01:30] <buz> might try nexenta tomorrow
[01:30] <buz> or venture into FreeBSDs ZFS support (been FreeBSD for half a decade)
[01:30] <Jucato> heinkel_111: err.. scratch that... it's up and then it's down...
[01:30] <Fade> I've had problems with xfs fluctuating in quality between kernel releases.
[01:30] <SonicChao> Tadu: Hm...did you try reinstalling konsole?
[01:30] <heinkel_111> Jucato: yes I see so :)
[01:30] <zorgluuu> ok i will not know what is the purpose of the fade box :)
[01:31] <Fade> it's just a database backend.
[01:31] <heinkel_111> Jucato..i have given up on checking replies to my thread for some hours...
[01:31] <Fade> I have some video storage boxes that use xfs
[01:31] <Jucato> heinkel_111: maybe you might have better luck in http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:31] <Fade> but for general use fiilesystems I like reiser because I've had very good results with it.
[01:32] <Jucato> since w32codecs for 64bit is a common problem to all the *buntus
[01:32] <Tadu> SonicChao: No idea why that should help, but I just did it (sudo apt-get install --reinstall konsole), but no change there.
[01:32] <Fade> most bsd afficionados I know hate all linux filesystems because they're generally asyncronous. :)
[01:32] <Fade> "That's dangerous Ned!"
[01:32] <Tadu> I checked the color scheme file manually, it still has "bold" set to "1" in it...
[01:32] <Fade> my powerbook runs reiserfs.
[01:33] <Fade> if you want to run disk quotas, xfs is a better choice.
[01:33] <SonicChao> Tadu: Ok...hm....does the same thing happen in gnome-terminal by any chance?
[01:34] <Diuneimama> Question : Any other codec can make Amorok works with mp3 ??
[01:34] <Tadu> I don't have gnome-terminal installed. And it only started doing this after I installed KDE 3.5.4 yesterday. Before, bold colors were fine.
[01:34] <buz> Fade: since i keep backups religiously, FS stability isnt that important
[01:34] <buz> drives generally fail much more often than FS does
[01:34] <Fade> I use battery backed hardware raid on production filesystems.
[01:34] <SonicChao> Tadu: Must be a bug...file a bug report
[01:35] <Fade> I have enough disks that I lose a couple every month.
[01:36] <Tadu> *sigh* Okay...
[01:36] <SonicChao> Tadu: and if you need to see if the same thing happens in gnome-terminal, "sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal"
[01:36] <Tadu> I just wondered whether someone could reproduce it.
[01:36] <Tadu> (konsole: just enter "tput setaf bold; echo bla" and check whether it is bold
[01:36] <fdoving> Tadu: kde 3.5.4 got a few problems when run on dapper. i'm on edgy so i can't reproduce.
[01:37] <SonicChao> Tadu: Well, I can't. =( I still using KDE 3.5.2
[01:37] <Tadu> Bleh. NO setaf, that was just for colors. Anyway.
[01:37] <Fade> I'm generally impressed with the kde setup on edgy.
[01:37] <buz> Fade: do you keep stats on brands?
[01:37] <stewraz> when i try to transfere files from a backup DVD it will stop on random files and say it cannot copy. gives me the option to skip or stop
[01:37] <Fade> although moving from dapper->edgy wasn't for the faint of heart.
[01:37] <Tadu> Hmm, is it worth the trouble updating to Edgy?
[01:37] <Fade> buz -- yeah.
[01:37] <Fade> we use a lot of western digital and maxtor disks.
[01:37] <Fade> steer clear of seagate.
[01:37] <buz> ok, maxtor i wont buy
[01:38] <fdoving> Tadu: wait, unless you know your way around apt-get and dpkg.
[01:38] <Fade> IBM used to make the best spindles available, but since they were sold to hitachi their prices are up and their quality is down.
[01:38] <buz> actually, i have about 10 seagates (2-3 year old), no failure
[01:38] <SonicChao> When EDGY is out, I'm keeping dapper anyway
[01:38] <buz> but dont get me started about maxtor, really
[01:38] <Fade> I've never had a head or spindle failure on seagate, but their sata controller hardware is shit.
[01:38] <Fade> they used to make nice scsi disks.
[01:38] <buz> ok mine are PATA still
[01:38] <fdoving> buz, fade: please take the disk discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic. thanks :)
[01:39] <Tadu> I guess I do know my way around apt-get and dpkg (I upgrade my Dapper from Breezy from Sarge from Sid from ...)...
[01:39] <zorgluuu> i find it quite surprising, they dont choose kernel according to those kind of criteria
[01:39] <stewraz> can someone please help me
[01:39] <Tadu> SonicCchao: Why not when it is released?
[01:39] <Fade> y'know, if you can't talk about silly stuff between questions, this channel is a lot like work.
[01:39] <Fade> it wasn't like we were talking religion or politics. :)
[01:40] <fdoving> stewraz: bad dvd disc? bad dvd-drive?
[01:40] <Diuneimama> Question : Any other codec or package can make Amorok works with mp3 ??? Anyone can help?
[01:40] <stewraz> well it never did it when i was using windows
[01:40] <buz> some say buying hardware IS religion ;)
[01:40] <buz> (FS definitely are)
[01:40] <fdoving> Fade: this channel is work. #kubuntu-offtopic is after work.
[01:40] <Jucato> Diuneimama: what was the problem again with installing libxine-extracodecs?
[01:40] <Dannilion> Diuneimama cannot download libxine-extracodecs using apt
[01:41] <Dannilion> it cannot find them
[01:41] <fdoving> Fade: search your logs for 'thanks' or 'thank you' :)
[01:41] <Jucato> Diuneimama: you need to enable the multiverse component of the repositories
[01:41] <Fade> stewraz: optical media does go bad. how old is the disk?
[01:41] <Dannilion> Jucato- Diuneimama's multiverse is enabled
[01:41] <Diuneimama> Jucato i had done it :(
[01:41] <Jucato> so what happened?
[01:42] <Dannilion> It can't find it
[01:42] <Diuneimama> but i dunno why its still wont be able to install
[01:42] <stewraz> fade: about 3 days been burnt. not sre how old its been sitting it the cupboard, it wasnt mine
[01:42] <KomiaPoika> at last i found my way out of the partitioner
[01:42] <stewraz> i was wondering if there was a known issue
[01:42] <Fade> stewraz: do you have another drive you can check it out on?
[01:42] <Jucato> Diuneimama: could you pastebin 2 things for me? 1) your sources.list and 2) the error message you receive when trying to install libxine-extracodecs
[01:42] <buz> stewraz: try a dd if=/dev/dvd of=some.iso
[01:42] <Jucato> Diuneimama: please use pastebin
[01:42] <Jucato> !pastebin
[01:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:42] <buz> (or whatever device your dvdrom lives at)
[01:42] <Fade> optical drives go bad at an alarming rate now that they cost less than a hundred bucks.
[01:43] <stewraz> fade: yes i do, not sure why i didnt think of that
[01:43] <Diuneimama> Jucato i dun know wat is paste bin
[01:43] <Jucato> !pastebin
[01:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:43] <Diuneimama> can i paste u throughpms?
[01:43] <fdoving> Diuneimama: pastebin is prefered.
[01:43] <Jucato> Diuneimama: it's better to discuss this here for the benefit of others
[01:44] <stewraz> buz: what will that command do
[01:44] <Diuneimama> can't open the http
[01:44] <Fade> it'll make a disk image and save it out to a file.
[01:44] <fdoving> Diuneimama: try http://rafb.net/paste/
[01:44] <stewraz> fade: ok thanks
[01:44] <Fade> although if you're going to do that you should set the blocksize like this: dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/file/backup.iso bs=512
[01:45] <Diuneimama> fdoving unknown host
[01:45] <stewraz> k
[01:45] <Jucato> fdoving: some users seem to have been having problems connecting to Ubuntu's pastebin lately. any ideas why?
[01:45] <Fade> especially if your drive is going flaky.
[01:45] <buz> isnt bs=512 default (or was that bsd, i forget :)
[01:45] <realin> hi guyzz can anyone help me out ?
[01:45] <Jucato> Diuneimama: how about trying this: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/
[01:46] <Fade> I didn't think it made any assumptions about blocksize, but it won't hurt especially if dd trys to autosense on a bad drive.
[01:46] <Tadu> SonicChao: Okay, its
[01:46] <Diuneimama> unknown host XD
[01:46] <Tadu> SonicChao: Okay, its #58698 then.
[01:46] <realin> ccan anyone help me installin ati drivers on kubuntu
[01:46] <Diuneimama> maybe its without the www infront of them?
[01:46] <SonicChao> Tadu: alright.
[01:46] <Jucato> Diuneimama: no it really doesn't have www.
[01:47] <buz> !ati
[01:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:47] <realin> thanks mate
[01:47] <buz> that should get you started
[01:47] <realin> and how can i install firefox
[01:47] <realin> !ati
[01:47] <buz> start adept
[01:47] <buz> and search for firefox
[01:48] <buz> the rest should be quite obvious
[01:48] <realin> i have downloaded firefox
[01:48] <buz> no need to download firefox, it will do that for you
[01:48] <realin> thanks mate
[01:48] <realin> gotta try that now and will be back to thank you :)
[01:49] <fdoving> Diuneimama: what happens if you try 'sudo apt-get install libmad0' from konsole?
[01:49] <Diuneimama> ok fdoving
[01:49] <Tadu> Interesting tidbit: if I mark the text with the mouse, everything that should be bold will then be bold (but color inverted, of course). Wierd.
[01:49] <Diuneimama> i try
[01:50] <xenalise_> does anyone know if Konversation supports perl or pythong scripts? :|
[01:50] <flaccid> i don't think so xenalise_
[01:50] <xenalise_> I'm bored of XChat
[01:50] <xenalise_> ack
[01:50] <stewraz> question- has anyone heared of ktunes (it comes bundles with suse) i know it is open, but not sure if i can get it for kubuntu
[01:50] <xenalise_> might have to use KSIRC again then :(
[01:50] <flaccid> eek
[01:50] <flaccid> i just go without the scripting...
[01:50] <xenalise_> what?
[01:50] <xenalise_> hehe
[01:50] <xenalise_> I need it to make life easier
[01:50] <Diuneimama> fdoving couldnt find package
[01:50] <xenalise_> especially when your on a network where flooding keeps happening :|
[01:51] <realin> guyz, i get sounds of error messages and all, but when i play mp3 in amaroK, i hear no sound, and when i play videos, i can see videos but no sound :( can anyone help me
[01:51] <flaccid> lol wine -> mirc
[01:51] <Jucato> Diuneimama: I think you have the main repository disabled
[01:51] <xenalise_> getting rid of bloody bots is a nuisance :|
[01:51] <fdoving> Diuneimama: can't you surf the web at all?
[01:51] <buz> realin: might be that some app hogs soundcard for itself
[01:51] <realin> hmmm.. there is no other app running
[01:51] <realin> other than that
[01:52] <buz> well obviously your card DOES work
[01:52] <Jucato> Diuneimama: can you check if "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ main restricted" is disabled/commented in sources.list
[01:52] <ep> How do I use APT to determine what version of a package is already installed on my system.
[01:52] <fdoving> ep: apt-cache policy package, or dpkg -s package
[01:53] <fdoving> ep: or dpkg -l package.
[01:54] <Jucato> whoa...
[01:54] <Jucato> Diuneimama: did you check?
[01:55] <Diuneimama> Jucato
[01:55] <Diuneimama> i cant access to all bowser
[01:56] <Jucato> aaah so it's an internet connection problem
[01:56] <Diuneimama> wats the problem?
[01:56] <Diuneimama> Xd
[01:56] <Diuneimama> how come i can connect through mirc
[01:56] <Hobbsee> Jucato: Dannilion is a friend of mine from another server :)
[01:56] <Jucato> lol
[01:56] <Hobbsee> Jucato: where people tend to boot in greeting :)
[01:56] <Jucato> Diuneimama: mirc on Kubuntu?
[01:57] <Dannilion> yup :P
[01:57] <Jucato> lol!
[01:57] <Diuneimama> no no i mean irc
[01:57] <Diuneimama> XD
[01:57] <Jucato> Diuneimama: but you can't browse anything at all?
[01:57] <fdoving> Diuneimama: can you run 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and find the line "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ main restricted" - if it has a # in front remove it, the line should start with 'deb'.
[01:58] <Diuneimama> Jucato yup
[01:58] <fdoving> Diuneimama: then save and exit nano. and run 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'
[01:58] <Jucato> Diuneimama: you can first try to check if the line that I and fdoving gave is disabled/commented...
[01:58] <Fade> Diuneimama: check that /etc/resolv.conf has valid nameservers in it.
[01:58] <Jucato> btw, the "xx" stands for us, uk. au. etc...
[01:59] <Fade> you might have the ip of the freenode server cached, but are failing on the lookups to other places.
[02:00] <Hobbsee> !info xchat
[02:00] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[02:01] <xenalise_> AmIRC thats the Amiga client isn't it? :|
[02:02] <buz> i guess it should read mIRC
[02:02] <buz> as in THE windows client
[02:02] <xenalise_> heh
[02:02] <xenalise_> XChat is still better
[02:02] <xenalise_> even on windows
[02:03] <xenalise_> a pda phone, gonna put wmIRC on it :D
[02:03] <xenalise_> 1.8mbps connex on the phone hehe
[02:03] <buz> good luck getting windows mobile to sync to linux
[02:03] <xenalise_> buz: I hear its possible through synce with some plugins
[02:03] <xenalise_> even then... I have VMware Workstation :)
[02:04] <fdoving> xenalise_: pda discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic please.
[02:04] <Jucato> ehehe
[02:04] <xenalise_> oh... sowwy :(
[02:04] <Jucato> hehe
[02:04] <fdoving> no problem, trying to keep this channel somewhat on-topic.
[02:04] <Jucato> it's easy to get carried away with off-topic discussions :-D
[02:04] <Jucato> that's why we have people like fdoving and aliasfred around :-D
[02:05] <Tadu> quit watching Video on Linux
[02:05] <Jucato> darn I lost all my alias commands in Konvi.. I don't know why..
[02:06] <Diuneimama> Sory jux now i was working on those step
[02:06] <Diuneimama> btw
[02:07] <Diuneimama> about /etc/resolv.conf
[02:07] <Diuneimama> i have nameserver 10.1.1.1
[02:07] <Diuneimama> its it correct?
[02:07] <fdoving> you can try to change it to 'nameserver 4.2.2.1' if it works you're lucky :)
[02:08] <fdoving> if not, you could just change it back.
[02:08] <Diuneimama> i cant rewrite it
[02:08] <fdoving> use 'sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[02:08] <fdoving> '
[02:08] <Diuneimama> oh
[02:08] <Diuneimama> ok
[02:09] <adz21c> anyone have any idea why when I try to watch a DVD with 4.0 audio and up (I want 5.1) in kaffeine it says "audio output unavailable. Device is busy()". Yet when I put it to 3.0 and below it's ok. This is using xine.
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> 194.112.32.1 (is a definately openly accessible dns cache - I built it years ago)
[02:11] <fdoving> 4.2.2.1 is easy to remember :)
[02:12] <Diuneimama> omg.. fdoving
[02:12] <Diuneimama> it works :)
[02:12] <Diuneimama> aaaaaaaaa
[02:13] <Jucato> all praise fdoving's unimaginable powers!!!
[02:13] <h3sp4wn> It will still be overwriten on reboot though
[02:13] <Jucato> eheh
[02:14] <Diuneimama> :)
[02:14] <Diuneimama> so can i try to apt-get "the codec"
[02:15] <Jucato> Diuneimama: yes
[02:16] <Diuneimama> Jucato, y is this happen
[02:16] <Diuneimama> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:16] <Diuneimama> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:16] <fdoving> Dannilion: as h3sp4wn says, this nameserver change will be overwritten on reboot. you can however, edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and make a new line that contains: 'supersede domain-name-servers 4.2.2.1;'
[02:16] <Jucato> hm...
[02:16] <Jucato> Diuneimama: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" first
[02:16] <fdoving> Diuneimama: close the running adept.
[02:16] <fdoving> or use:
[02:16] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[02:16] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[02:16] <fdoving> well.. that's another lock file.. though.
[02:16] <Diuneimama> so which one i do 1st XD
[02:16] <fdoving> 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock' would do.
[02:16] <Jucato> lol
[02:16] <Diuneimama> ok
[02:17] <Diuneimama> so now i get a command
[02:17] <Diuneimama> kill the process?
[02:17] <fdoving> yes,.
[02:18] <Diuneimama> done
[02:18] <fdoving> then try again.
[02:23] <Diuneimama> oh well y my /etc/resolv.conf is being reset?
[02:23] <bruce_> hi all
[02:23] <Goliath23> hi
[02:24] <adz21c> anyone have any idea why when I try to watch a DVD with 4.0 audio and up (I want 5.1) in kaffeine it says "audio output unavailable. Device is busy()". Yet when I put it to 3.0 and below it's ok. This is using xine. I seem to have the same problem with xine-ui
[02:24] <fdoving> Diuneimama: at reboot it will be, yes.
[02:25] <Diuneimama> fdoving so everytime when i nid to browse i nid to set it ro 4.2.2.1 my own?
[02:25] <fdoving> Diuneimama: i gave you a solution on how to fix this: 14:17 < fdoving> Dannilion: as h3sp4wn says, this nameserver change will be overwritten on reboot. you can however, edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and make a new line that contains: 'supersede domain-name-servers 4.2.2.1;'
[02:26] <bruce_> would someone be so kind as to help me with a Grub problem IE: i can't boot windows
[02:27] <Diuneimama> fdoving under where in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[02:27] <Diuneimama> anywhere?
[02:27] <stewraz> when i use adept to install items example (3dchess) it downloads al good but it dosnt show in the games menu
[02:27] <stewraz> am i not doing something extra
[02:28] <Arepie> stewraz: try log out an log in back
[02:28] <lupine_85> stewraz: not all programs come with a menu item
[02:28] <stewraz> i will try that
[02:29] <lupine_85> run from terminal/"Run Command" menu item, or create your own desktop/menu item
[02:29] <fdoving> Diabolic: yes, anywhere..
[02:29] <fdoving> Diabolic: sorry, wrong nick
[02:29] <stewraz> nope it still dosnt show, is there a way i can add them to the menu
[02:30] <Jucato> stewraz: next time you could run this in Konsole to update K Menu: kbuildsycoca --incremental
[02:30] <Jucato> disregard error messages
[02:30] <stewraz> or do i have to launch only through the console
[02:30] <flaccid> stewraz: what is the command you execute the run the binary?
[02:30] <stewraz> no i install tghrough adept
[02:30] <stewraz> no command line
[02:30] <Jucato> stewraz: take note, though, that some programs really don't make a menu entry in K Menu
[02:30] <flaccid> i just did sudo apt-get install 3dchess
[02:30] <flaccid> i type 3dchess it doesn't run
[02:31] <stewraz> yep mine dosnt run either
[02:31] <flaccid> it didn't seem to install much at all with the package
[02:32] <flaccid> can't see a binary
[02:32] <stewraz> i have had this issue with many small games
[02:32] <lupine_85> probably not in your path - try /usr/games/3dchess
[02:32] <Jucato> maybe 3D chess uses a different command to run?
[02:33] <bruce_> could someone please tell me how to config grub to boot windows
[02:33] <stewraz> kbuildsycoca --incremental tells me that it has no database available
[02:33] <flaccid> stewraz: the command is /usr/games/3
[02:33] <flaccid> oops
[02:33] <flaccid> stewraz: the command is /usr/games/3Dc
[02:33] <Healot> !grub
[02:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:33] <lupine_85> there's an example config in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:34] <kbrooks> stewraz, ignore his mistakes :-)
[02:34] <stewraz> yep ok it launched then
[02:34] <kbrooks> stewraz, /usr/games/3dchess
[02:34] <bruce_> thank you
[02:34] <stewraz> so there is no other way to launch these games
[02:34] <lupine_85> stewraz: you can make a menu item in the usual way
[02:34] <flaccid> stewraz: you can add it to your menu
[02:34] <flaccid> yeah
[02:35] <kbrooks> stewraz, make a menu  item
[02:35] <lupine_85> right-click on the "Big K" and select edit menu...
[02:35] <flaccid> this game is confusing... 3 boards
[02:35] <lupine_85> erm, menu editor
[02:35] <lupine_85> flaccid: great fun though
[02:35] <lupine_85> watch out for the cannons
[02:35] <stewraz> lol yeah it is hard
[02:35] <stewraz> o i open menu editor
[02:36] <flaccid> i have no idea how to play it
[02:36] <stewraz> sorry but i have only just come across to linux, how to i create a menue item for it
[02:36] <flaccid> seems like i'm playing against myself in all three games
[02:36] <Nitro> !repos
[02:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:37] <lupine_85> stewraz: right-click and "new item"
[02:37] <stewraz> ahh thanks
[02:37] <lupine_85> Command would be /usr/games/3dchess ... the rest is easy to work out :)
[02:37] <lupine_85> flaccid: it's just one game
[02:37] <lupine_85> you can move pieces between boards
[02:37] <kwtm_> What program do I use to record the sound output I am sending to the speaker?  More specifically, I want to record a Realplayer audio stream of an overseas "Internet radio" broadcast that happens while I am asleep in the middle of the night.
[02:38] <lupine_85> there's also an AI option
[02:38] <KomiaPoika> kwtm_: use streamripper
[02:38] <kwtm_> KomiaPoika: Thanks, will look into streamripper
[02:39] <Jucato> actually the command is "/usr/games/3Dc"
[02:40] <kwtm_> KomiaPoika: It looks like that's for online streaming mp3 and ogg?  Is there something that will just take any output to speaker, intercept it, and put it into a file?
[02:40] <stewraz> got it thanks heaps
[02:43] <KomiaPoika> kwtm_: from one program using a command line its possible but to grab the entire output it may be complicated
[02:45] <kraut> hi
[02:45] <lupine_85> couldn't you just temporarily replace /dev/dsp (or the ALSA equivalent) with an empty file? (never tried it, btw)
[02:45] <kraut> i have a syncmaster 203b tft and a nvida gf 6600, this is my xorg.conf: http://home.packetloss.biz/~fek/temp/xorg.conf
[02:45] <kraut> does anybody know, why i won't get a signal on DVI?
[02:45] <kraut> in tty i have on both a signal, DVI and VGA.
[02:46] <Fade> you can cat a wav file to the sound device, and you'll get sound out the speaker.
[02:46] <Fade> but if the file isn't a plain wav, you'll get an explosive burst of static.
[02:46] <lupine_85> Fade: looking at doing the opposite...
[02:46] <kwtm_> KomiaPoika: Okay, but suppose I just want all the output from one program (in this case, RealPlayer) which is not a KDE app?  KRec apparently only works on KDE apps.  (Must use aRts?)
[02:46] <lupine_85> ...that is, capturing speaker output to a file
[02:46] <Fade> reading from a microphone?
[02:47] <lupine_85> no, from a program ;)
[02:47] <kwtm_> lupine_85: sorry, didn't notice your text up there --you didn't mention my nick so Konversation didn't highlight the text.
[02:47] <lupine_85> sorry :)
[02:47] <kwtm_> lupine_85: do you mean redirect the output of /dev/dsp?
[02:48] <kwtm_> I don't know why my nick as an underscore at the end.  Maybe I'm logged in multiple times? :P
[02:49] <KomiaPoika> kwtm_: for mplayer for example i use: mplayer -ao pcm -aofile output.wav movie.mpg
[02:49] <KomiaPoika> i guess you can pipe it into lame somehow
[02:49] <stewraz> what is the command to remove a game through terminal (just trying to learn) ;-)
[02:49] <lupine_85> no -- by defalt, an OSS program sends audio output to special device file /dev/dsp
[02:49] <stewraz> just rm path
[02:49] <lupine_85> so by replacing the file, it (hopefully) will record the sound output as a .wav
[02:49] <lupine_85> stewraz: apt-get remove <package>
[02:49] <KomiaPoika> how can i update /etc/apt/sources.list with a more regional mirrors list without editint the file by hand?
[02:49] <escay> hi al
[02:49] <escay> hi all
[02:49] <lupine_85> KomiaPoika: you could use sed ;)
[02:49] <Fade> mmmmmmmm. sed
[02:50] <kwtm_> KomiaPoika: Ah, you mean using a command specific to that program.  I wonder if mplayer will do streaming RealPlayer?
[02:50] <escay> i cant install my new usb printer. its a hp DeskJet F380.  anyone got that one installed?
[02:51] <phiit> hello
[02:51] <escay> hello phiit
[02:51] <phiit> anyone have a advice how to mount ntfs on kubuntu?
[02:51] <escay> should be automounted
[02:51] <phiit> it says
[02:51] <phiit> Could not mount device.
[02:51] <phiit> The reported error was:
[02:51] <phiit> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:52] <lupine_85> so it's not in your fstab. add it :)
[02:52] <escay> take a look in the manpage of the mount command
[02:52] <escay> ;-)
[02:52] <phiit> how? ;)
[02:52] <escay> man mount
[02:52] <Fade> KomiaPoika: cd /etc/apt && sed -e 's/archive.ubuntu.com/archive.ca.ubuntu.com/g' < sources.list > /tmp/temp.sources
[02:52] <lupine_85> man fstab, more like
[02:52] <kwtm_> lupine_85: Hmm, sounds like something like "sudo ln -s /dev/dsp ~/my_hijacked_dsp_stream.raw" or something like that.  Sounds like some more tinkering that I might not have time for.  Anyway, I will keep searching in my spare time to see if there's a prepackaged solution, but if not it looks like I'll have to get up in the middle of the night to do it.
[02:52] <Fade> except, you know, with a real regional archive in the second part of the edit expression.
[02:53] <Fade> your edited file will be in /tmp/temp.sources
[02:53] <kwtm_> Hey, you know what?  I have an idea.  What if I just hardware connect my sound output to my line in?  HMMMMmmmmm..... tempting ....
[02:53] <lupine_85> isn't it ca.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[02:53] <KomiaPoika> kwtm_: just adapt the command to realplayer
[02:53] <lupine_85> kwtm_: that works like a charm :)
[02:54] <Fade> lupine -- see my explanatory comment. ;)
[02:54] <kwtm_> :)  Thanks.  Anyway, gotta go, but thanks for the ideas.
[02:54] <Fade> probably. I can't remember the format of the regional archive hostnames.
[02:55] <KomiaPoika> Fade: still connecting to australia :(
[02:55] <lupine_85> don't forget to apt-get update
[02:55] <Fade> well, you'll have to verify that temp.sources is sane, and then copy it into place at /etc/apt/sources
[02:55] <Fade> er, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:56] <Fade> *then* apt-get update
[02:56] <phiit> i got lost
[02:57] <phiit> where can i find fstab??
[02:57] <abattoir> phiit: /etc/fstab
[02:58] <phiit> it's not there
[02:58] <phiit> ok i found it :)
[02:58] <Fade> lupine_85: yeah, it's ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:58] <phiit> how do i add hdb ?
[02:59] <KomiaPoika> Fade: is it possible to get back to the installer and chose western europe to load up automagically?
[02:59] <Fade> and I guess (br|ie|fr).archive.ubuntu.com by implication.
[02:59] <Fade> KomiaPoika: I just gave you the answer to your question.
[02:59] <Fade> what country are you in?
[03:00] <phiit> anyone? :(
[03:00] <Fade> your question is too general.
[03:01] <Fade> is the harddrive attached to the computer? does it already have a filesystem on it?
[03:01] <phiit> yes
[03:01] <phiit> ntfs
[03:01] <Fade> then add a line to the fstab specifying the linux ntfs driver for that mount
[03:02] <phiit> ntfs driver?
[03:02] <Fade> it'd look something like this:
[03:02] <phiit> i'm very new to linux here
[03:03] <Fade> /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs   ntfs   defaults    0    0
[03:03] <stewraz> question, why does the command SU not sowrk with my password, i know i read something about this
[03:03] <stewraz> but cannot for the life of me remember
[03:03] <Fade> assuming that the disk was hda and the ntfs partition was the first partition on that disk.
[03:03] <phiit> i already have hda1 in fstab
[03:04] <Dace> !sudo
[03:04] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:04] <Fade> phiit -- you have to read and then understand what I'm trying to say.
[03:04] <stewraz> thanks
[03:04] <phiit> im trying
[03:04] <Fade> I don't know what disk or partition your ntfs filesystem is on, so I just pulled one out of my ass to illustrate the point. :)
[03:05] <Fade> is it the second ide disk in the computer?
[03:05] <phiit> i added the line to fstab, i get erros:
[03:05] <phiit> yes
[03:05] <phiit> sorry
[03:05] <Fade> is it connected to the same controller as the first disk?
[03:05] <phiit> yes
[03:06] <Fade> is the ntfs filesystem the first partition on that disk?
[03:06] <phiit> first and only
[03:06] <stewraz> i am trying to remove gnuchess with sudo apt-get remove usr/games/gnuchess
[03:06] <Fade> well, replace /dev/hda1 with /dev/hdb1
[03:06] <stewraz> it says it could find the package
[03:06] <Fade> in that case.
[03:06] <phiit> erros: /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs   ntfs   defaults    0    0
[03:06] <stewraz> not to worry i got it
[03:07] <stewraz> no path needed
[03:07] <phiit> warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[03:07] <stewraz> ls
[03:07] <Fade> hit return in your editor twice at the end of the final line.
[03:07] <Fade> also, you didn't listen to what I just told you.
[03:08] <phiit> ok
[03:08] <phiit> ok now i get: only root can mount /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/ntfs
[03:08] <Fade> you have to make sure the directory /mnt/ntfs exists.
[03:09] <Fade> so do: mkdir /mnt/ntfs
[03:09] <Fade> as root
[03:09] <soulrider> Fade: i downlaoded the edgy eft knot 2 ISO and i want to mount it where my CD drive is, is that possible?
[03:09] <soulrider> or mount it elsewhere
[03:09] <soulrider> kind of what daemon tools does on windows
[03:09] <Fade> and then do 'mount /mnt/ntfs' as root
[03:09] <Fade> soulrider: is it a file or a disk?
[03:10] <Fade> if it's a file, you need to use a loopback mount.
[03:10] <soulrider> its an .iso file, an image of a disk
[03:10] <Fade> mount /path/to/my.iso /mnt/ -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop0
[03:11] <jarfer> hola a todos
[03:11] <jarfer> buenas tardes
[03:11] <soulrider> hola jarfer
[03:11] <soulrider> !es
[03:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:11] <soulrider> ;)
[03:11] <phiit> how do i switch myself to root in kubuntu??
[03:11] <soulrider> use "sudo"
[03:12] <jarfer> perdonar es la primewra vez que utilizo linux y estoy algo perdido
[03:12] <soulrider> thatw ill run a command is if you were root
[03:12] <phiit> yeah that was it
[03:12] <soulrider> ok, registrate en el server y hablamos por PM
[03:12] <jarfer> ok
[03:13] <phiit> where can i find sudo again? :)
[03:13] <soulrider> just type sudo
[03:13] <soulrider> like
[03:14] <soulrider> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs
[03:14] <soulrider> or whatever
[03:14] <Fade> did the loop mount work, soulrider ?
[03:14] <soulrider> im on it
[03:15] <soulrider> i get
[03:15] <soulrider> this: /dev/loop0 no such file or directory
[03:15] <habeeb> Greetings. My amarok cant play my songs. I tried every engine availabe. But amarok just passes throu the songs, and finishes the playlist immediatly. Also, I can hear sounds from GAIM, or beeps, etc.
[03:15] <soulrider> you need to add mp3 support
[03:15] <Fade> do 'modprobe loop'
[03:15] <phiit> ok i managed to mount it, but i can't see any files?
[03:16] <soulrider> i suggest you read the guides in the amarok site
[03:16] <habeeb> soulrider: how?
[03:16] <adaran> is there any way to use s/mime with kmail other then with gpg2/me/rubbish?
[03:16] <soulrider> google their site, and read the guides there, theyw ere useful for me
[03:16] <soulrider> i think it worked now
[03:16] <soulrider> hang on.........
[03:17] <grizzly> Is it possible to know exactly which cdrecord commands does k3b issue.use when writing?
[03:17] <soulrider> it does :) it will go away when i reboot right ?
[03:17] <Fade> yep
[03:17] <grizzly> He problem is that i can't get cdrecord to work fom cmd, but k3b works
[03:17] <soulrider> ok
[03:17] <phiit> any idea anyone?
[03:17] <Fade> you could also just unmount it. ;)
[03:17] <soulrider> also, im gonna use vmware to install edgy, i will be bale to dot hat from this directory right ?
[03:18] <Fade> I've never done that, but I don't see why not.
[03:18] <habeeb> The following packages have been kept back: amarok amarok-xine -> ? :/
[03:18] <Fade> unless vmware expects a raw .iso image.
[03:18] <Fade> and not a mounted one.
[03:19] <BazziR> it can handle both
[03:19] <Fade> in which case, I'd try passing /dev/loop0 as the device address of the optical drive.
[03:19] <soulrider> uhm
[03:19] <soulrider> apparently vmware can read an iso image
[03:19] <soulrider> no need to mount or anything :)
[03:19] <Fade> phiit -- when you type 'mount' all by itself, does it report the disk mounted at /mnt/ntfs?
[03:19] <grizzly> !libburn
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libburn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <soulrider> time to try dgy out :):):)
[03:24] <stewraz> is there a way to get a link to show the desktop (hiding all windows)
[03:28] <stewraz> ?
[03:30] <grizzly> anybody know how to use libburn?
[03:30] <Martijn81> stewraz: something like a "show desktop" button on the panel?
[03:30] <mcdoil> salut a tous
[03:30] <Martijn81> !fr
[03:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:30] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+D
[03:30] <stewraz> yeah
[03:31] <mcdoil> join /kubuntu-fr
[03:31] <Jucato> stewraz: Ctrl+Alt+D or like what Martijn81 said, Add Applet to Panel > "Show Desktop"
[03:31] <mcdoil> what is the command please
[03:32] <grizzly> mcdoil: /join channel . THough I owuld suggest you use Opera's irc client
[03:32] <Martijn81> mcdoil: "/join #kubuntu-fr" without the quotes
[03:32] <mcdoil> thank you !
[03:33] <AtKaaZ> !logs
[03:33] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[03:46] <srdjant> Hi does kubuntu use bootsplash or quingy or something else?
[03:48] <Jonty> uuencode is not installed by default and is not available from the repos?
[03:48] <soulrider> have you enabled allt he repos ?
[03:48] <Jonty> as far as I know
[03:49] <grizzly> cdrecord gives the message "cannot open /dev/sg*" device not found ?
[03:50] <grizzly> when trying to record something..
[03:50] <soulrider> hey Hawkwind
[03:50] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind!
[03:50] <soulrider> im installing edgy on vmware :)
[03:50] <soulrider> but the installation froze i think
[03:50] <soulrider> it just sais "scanning the mirror" and tis at 1%, wont go up
[03:51] <Hawkwind> Hey there soulrider and Jucato
[03:51] <soulrider> =)
[03:53] <kegie> hey all! I've just upgraded to 3.5.4, worked fine except now I get the personalizer wizard every time I log in. Is there any way of getting rid of it?
[03:53] <kegie> running dapper, btw
[03:54] <soulrider> apparently 3.5.4 has some issues
[03:54] <soulrider> i suggest you downgrade to 3.5.3
[03:55] <soulrider> thats what im using right now
[03:55] <Jucato> no need to really
[03:55] <Hobbsee> kegie: heya
[03:55] <Hobbsee> soulrider: i've got a fix for that
[03:55] <Jucato> it's Hobbsee to the rescue@
[03:55] <Hobbsee> kegie: are you running i386?
[03:55] <kegie> it works fine except for the wizard thing, so I think i'd rather live with it than downgrading.. yeah, i386
[03:56] <Hobbsee> kegie: can you run "wget http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kubuntu-default-settings_6.06-23_all.deb http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kubuntu-artwork-usplash_6.06-23_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i *.deb" please?
[03:57] <grizzly> cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -scanbus gives http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22429 . NOw plz tell em the command to write a file to a cd.
[03:57] <kegie> cool, trying it
[03:57] <grizzly> I have tried cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc , it works, but then it creates a cd with 'bad blocks'
[03:57] <Jucato> kegie: if it's any comfort to you, it worked for me :-D
[03:58] <kegie> hehe, good to hear :D
[03:59] <Jucato> and Hobbsee is a kubuntu developer :-D
[03:59] <soulrider> :O
[03:59] <soulrider> Hobbsee: i got a request for you then :P
[03:59] <Jucato> lol
[03:59] <Hobbsee> soulrider: hehe!
[03:59] <kegie> rebooting, back in a sec
[03:59] <soulrider> jucato ahs the same one :P ;)
[03:59] <Hobbsee> really now?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> kegie: before youdo
[03:59] <Netcad> how can I find out what /dev/ the device on http://pastebin.com/782596 is at?
[03:59] <kegie> still here
[04:00] <soulrider> Hobbsee: you guys gotta add better support for pppoe connections in edgy
[04:00] <Hobbsee> kegie: can you locate kpersonalizerrc, and delete the one in your home directory?  it's likely under ~/.kde/share/apps/config/kpersonalizerrc
[04:00] <Hobbsee> soulrider: indeed.  there's a bug, and a fix, but no one who has the knowledge on how to fix it has looked at it yet
[04:00] <soulrider> i got one and i never know if it disconnects or not or if it reconnected
[04:00] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:01] <soulrider> BRB
[04:01] <kegie> Hobbsee: got it, only contains a couple of icon size definitions
[04:01] <fdoving> Netcad: do you have the 'sd_mod' module loaded?
[04:02] <Hobbsee> kegie: yeah, cna you remove it, then restart kde?  (ctrl+alt+backspace works)
[04:02] <kegie> Hobbsee: done, brb
[04:02] <Jucato> soulrider: in the meantime, you can try installing KNemo so that you would have something in your system tray. :-D
[04:02] <fdoving> Netcad: if you have 'sd_mod' loaded it should automatically tell you what device name it gets.
[04:03] <Netcad> fdoving : with any other usb device, it works for me
[04:03] <ro> guys i have a question ... i cant install easykubuntu
[04:03] <Hobbsee> define "cant install"
[04:04] <kegie> Hobbsee: thank you! that seems to have fixed it. Got the wizard again at first, but logged out+logged in again and it was gone :D
[04:04] <ro> it says that i have an old version but i download my kubuntu last week so its the last ...
[04:04] <soulrider> jucato i got a prog called rrrk-pppoe or something
[04:04] <fdoving> Netcad: what's special about this device?
[04:04] <hilow> where can I find more information about kubuntu lts 6.06.1 and power management features?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> kegie: excellent!
[04:05] <fdoving> ro: #easyubuntu
[04:05] <fdoving> !easyubuntu > ro
[04:05] <Hobbsee> er, today
[04:05] <sredna> Hi
[04:05] <Jucato> soulrider: ah to connect, yes. I used pppoeconf. but I used KNemo to give me a visual cue whether i'm connected or not
[04:05] <kegie> =)
[04:05] <soulrider> ahh :)
[04:05] <sredna> How do I convince apache 2 to start on kubuntu???
[04:05] <Hobbsee> hey sredna
[04:05] <fdoving> sredna: /etc/default/apache2
[04:06] <sredna> Running /etc/init.d/apache2 start does 0
[04:06] <sredna> fdoving: What is that?
[04:06] <fdoving> sredna: /etc/default/apache2 set NO_START=0
[04:06] <soulrider> Jucato: i guess im gonna try knemo
[04:06] <sredna> Ah, thanks
[04:06] <fdoving> sredna: a config sourced by /etc/init.d/apache2
[04:06] <Netcad> fdoving : it's not a usb hdd, it's an ide hdd
[04:06] <soulrider> thanks :)
[04:06] <sredna> fdoving: I see.
[04:07] <fdoving> Netcad: ah, can you find it in /proc/partitions ?
[04:07] <Netcad> fdoving :  I've got a usb cable that allows me to connect it via usb
[04:08] <fdoving> Netcad: then i have no clue, never heard of sych a config. but i guess it should show up as a USB mass-storage device.
[04:08] <Netcad> fdoving : i cant find it.
[04:09] <sredna> Hm, I need it to start php
[04:09] <sredna> Maybe I should install php...
[04:09] <Bbetto> i try to update to kde 3.5.4, with add repositorio and update upgrade but nothing hapend? what can i do?
[04:10] <soulrider> Bbetto: did you add the kde 3.5.4 repo ?
[04:10] <Bbetto> yes
[04:10] <Bbetto> this deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main
[04:11] <Jucato> I think you need to do dist-upgrade (Full Upgrade in Adept)
[04:11] <Netcad> fdoving: it does. I just don't know how to mount it
[04:12] <Bbetto> dist-upgrade in console?
[04:13] <stewraz> when i remove a program with apt-get it still shows in the menu. what is the command to rebuild the menu
[04:13] <Jucato> Bbetto: yes. "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:13] <Jucato> stewraz: probably "kbuildsycoca --incremental"
[04:13] <Bbetto> ok i try it
[04:13] <Jucato> stewraz: but sometimes they still stick...
[04:14] <stewraz> thanks
[04:17] <stewraz> what is the easiest way to see where a program installed
[04:17] <stewraz> through adept?
[04:17] <stewraz> i cannot seem to launch and neet to find it
[04:18] <Jucato> stewraz: a program installs quite a lot of files in different places
[04:19] <mattikoo> Hello. My Gaphig Card is Nvidia GeForce MX 400. If I install nvidia linux driver in kubuntu  and I change "nv" to "nvidia", kubuntu crashes and it has happened many times. So I cannot play games and so on.
[04:19] <Jucato> stewraz: but you can check in Adept by clickin on the arrow beside the package name
[04:19] <stewraz> i have found where it is instaled but for the life of me i cannot launch it. lol. so sorry guys
[04:19] <stewraz> kblogger is the program
[04:19] <Jucato> stewraz: then selecting show details and the installed files tab
[04:19] <Jucato> aah
[04:19] <Jucato> maybe it's not a program?
[04:19] <angasule> hello, I just installed kubuntu on a pc and in the System Settings the administrator mode button doesn't work, it blanks the window and sits there, no dialog to enter the password popsup
[04:19] <stewraz> i think its an applet
[04:19] <Jucato> yeah... Kicker applet
[04:20] <stewraz> when i run kicker in term it says its already rinning
[04:20] <Hobbsee> angasule: use kdesu kcontrol as a workaround - is this a new user, with no other files, or what?
[04:20] <stewraz> running
[04:20] <Hawkwind> Seveas: When you see this, can you please add the fact to the bot I gave you about 'bad device error'
[04:20] <Jucato> stewraz: kicker is the KDE panel. it's running already
[04:20] <angasule> Hobbsee: I'm using the user created on install
[04:21] <Jucato> stewraz: right-click on the pannel, and select Add Applet to Panel
[04:21] <stewraz> ahhh right
[04:22] <Hobbsee> angasule: right.  so it's just weirdly died on you.  does that happen if you restart kde?  (ctrl+alt+backspace)?
[04:23] <stewraz> so if i want to remove it (cause its pretty dodge) apt-get says its running so i cant. what is the command to close the applet
[04:23] <angasule> Hobbsee: lemme try, brb
[04:23] <Hobbsee> stewraz: killall kicker?
[04:24] <Jucato> Hobbsee: nah, he's trying to make KBlogger run
[04:24] <stewraz> nope i got it to run
[04:24] <Jucato> :-D
[04:24] <Hobbsee> ah okay
[04:24] <stewraz> and i dont like it so wanna remove it
[04:24] <juan> if my x config lets me use both my monitors (as 1 large 1) in both gnome and xfce, what do i need to set up to get it to work in kde
[04:24] <Hobbsee> angasule: still a problem?
[04:25] <stewraz> lol
[04:25] <stewraz> thanks
[04:25] <Hobbsee> stewraz: right click, remove applet, select the one you dont want?
[04:25] <angasule> Hobbsee: yeap
[04:25] <stewraz> yeah but i wanna remove it from the sys all together
[04:25] <Hobbsee> angasule: interesting.
[04:25] <stewraz> i tried killall
[04:25] <Hobbsee> !info kblogger
[04:25] <ubotu> Package kblogger does not exist in any distro I know
[04:25] <Hobbsee> stewraz: how did you install it?
[04:25] <stewraz> and then apt-get removeand it still said it was running
[04:26] <stewraz> terminal
[04:26] <stewraz> apt-get install
[04:26] <stewraz> ahh shit
[04:26] <stewraz> my bad
[04:26] <Jucato> stewraz: to remove kblogger from the panel, right-click on the panel and choose Remove from Panel > Applet > KBlogger
[04:28] <stewraz> got it thanks
[04:31] <srdjant> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upower mentions Upower, Splashy and uSplash. Which are we supposed to be using for bootsplashes??
[04:32] <Jucato> USplash is the Ubuntu bootsplash
[04:32] <Jucato> Splashy doesn't work, and I don't know what Upower is :-D
[04:32] <Hobbsee> usplash, i think
[04:33] <skavenge>  well, i dont have it on my kde box but ive got splashy running on my gnome desktop machine
[04:33] <srdjant> I'm just trying to figure out what I have to do to install new bootsplash themes and where to get them.
[04:33] <Hawkwind> !usplash
[04:33] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:33] <stewraz> say i wanna list the appls listed in www.kde-apps.com
[04:33] <srdjant> thanks Hawkwind
[04:33] <stewraz> can i add is in adept
[04:33] <Jucato> hehehe.. installing a new USplash theme is easy... making one that works isn't...
[04:33] <stewraz> kde-apps.org
[04:34] <srdjant> so are usplash themes different from bootsplash themes?
[04:35] <Hawkwind> Yes
[04:35] <Hawkwind> !bootsplash
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:35] <Jucato> USplash themes are bootsplash themes for USplash only. the ones on KDE-Look are for Splashy, AFAIK
[04:36] <srdjant> so are they compatible with http://www.kde-look.org/?xcontentmode=61
[04:36] <srdjant> ahh :(
[04:36] <neutrinomass> I'm trying to compile a Qt app and I get this: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.  What am I missing ?
[04:36] <neutrinomass> I got libqt3-dev installed ...
[04:37] <Jucato> neutrinomass: did you do ./configure first? or if the installation instructions require something similar?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> neutrinomass: What is it you are trying to compile ?
[04:38] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I haven't read the link you gave yet, btw. I needed to catch up on much needed sleep earlier :-D
[04:38] <skavenge> srdjant: there are usplash themes in there as well, you just need to look at the description of the splash screen most are labeled whether they are for splashy or not, the ones not labeled should work with usplash
[04:38] <juan> !twinview
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <neutrinomass> Jucato, Hawkwind: It doesn't use autotools. It's this : http://aurox.org/adsl-manager/
[04:39] <juan> how do i get kbuntu to work with both my monitors
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> juan,  depends on your video card.
[04:39] <juan> nvidia geforce summit summit
[04:39] <stewraz> what will i need to install to get up and going with some java programming
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Twinview_Example        is what i followed
[04:40] <Hawkwind> juan: I can post my xorg.conf if you want.  I use twinview with Nvidia
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> juan,  and yes - it took me some reading/twiddling and learning. backup your working x configs
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> I used 2 monitors and a tv out. :P
[04:41] <juan> i have it working on xfce and gnome but when i login and use kde it doesnt work
[04:41] <Xcalibur> yo
[04:41] <Hawkwind> juan: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/75
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> juan,  thats odd..... if the x config us set up right. it should work fine for them all.
[04:42] <Xcalibur> anyone know why when i g2 install LimeWire, it tells me I don't have the newest JRE, but when I type java -v it tells me I do, but limewire won't install?
[04:43] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: Give up on p2p apps.  They are poorly coded and nothing but a pain to deal with
[04:43] <Xcalibur> ok?
[04:43] <Xcalibur> well, you have any other ideas for media?
[04:43] <juan> i no thats why im looking for help, i mean ill check my config again, but is there anything that could be overiding my settings for x
[04:44] <Xcalibur> I can't watch any of my favorite videos on break.com, I only can hear the sound?
[04:44] <Ayabara> has anyone here got amarok working with aac in kubuntu? I can't add aac files to my collection, but I can play them
[04:45] <Xcalibur> I can't play .wmv's, I enabled the Xine crap, but there is no w32codecs in adpet
[04:45] <Xcalibur> adept*
[04:45] <Xcalibur> !wmv
[04:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:46] <skavenge> Xcalibur: its not in adept, the link for it is on that restricted formats page
[04:46] <Xcalibur> ok?
[04:46] <skavenge> they cant keep it in the repos for legal purposes
[04:46] <jarlath_> Does anyone know how to get pressure sensitivity working for a Wacom graphics tablet? I've installed the driver and the module. The only thing I can think that might need tuning is my xorg.conf but I've followed advice I found by googling and things arent any better.
[04:47] <Healot> !noob
[04:47] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> 'friends dont let friends use wmv's "
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:47] <NDPowerBook> Wow
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Xcalibur,  your limewire issue is most likely due to your system using the wrong default java.
[04:47] <NDPowerBook> This channel doesn't cease to impress me.
[04:48] <Jucato> lol
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> !java
[04:48] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> do a java --version and see which java you are defaulting to.
[04:48] <NDPowerBook> Whats JFGI stand for anyway?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> NDPowerBook,  i got no clue there. :P
[04:49] <Xcalibur> java version "1.4.2"
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Xcalibur,  and the next lines of the version reply say?
[04:49] <Xcalibur> h/o
[04:49] <Xcalibur> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> java version "1.5.0_06"    Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> Xcalibur,  thus you are using the GIJ  Java and NOT the sun java.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> bu default
[04:50] <h3sp4wn> !info gij
[04:50] <ubotu> gij: The GNU Java bytecode interpreter. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.0-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> if you have not installed the SUN java packages -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> if you have installed it - then you most likely need to update your alternatives (also dicsussed on tha page)
[04:51] <kbrooks> i need a ubuntu user here...
[04:51] <Dr_Willis>  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:51] <kbrooks> TO ubuntu users: Do you know howt o open up the remote desktop  dialog?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> lets you pick what java to use as default.
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  which one? i think ya just run that krdc or similer program
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> let me check
[04:52] <mortuss> hello
[04:52] <kbrooks> ubuntu, not kubuntu, Dr_Willis
[04:52] <mortuss> a need some help
[04:52] <kbrooks> you misread
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  dare i ask why you are asking this in #Kubuntu then? :P
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> lol
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> rdesktop server:port (port is usually 3389)
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> I dont even use gnome - it drives me crazy
[04:53] <mortuss> I have problem with sound
[04:53] <Xcalibur> i typed in konsole, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[04:54] <Xcalibur> it didn't install them, it said "it's available from another source'
[04:54] <mortuss> mp3 is playint but a I dont hear a music
[04:55] <Xcalibur> what line do I add to the repositories or something
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> !w32codecs
[04:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> i always get the latest from the mplayer homepage myself.
[04:55] <Jucato> mortuss: you need to install "libxine-extracodecs" from the multiverse repositories
[04:56] <Xcalibur> I'm at that page
[04:56] <Xcalibur> but no help from it?
[04:56] <mortuss> how do I do it ?
[04:56] <auctmore> Hello. Does anyone use QIDE at http://qide.free.fr/ ? Is there a kubuntu package. Not found in main and universe.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Xcalibur,  not noticeinmg the line that says...   --->  wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.or  .................. to download the .deb eh?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> or is that url not working.
[04:57] <mortuss> Jucato? please
[04:58] <Jucato> mortuss: you need to enable the multiverse repository by following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:58] <KomiaPoika> how to make kubuntu stop failing all the apt-get update when it fails just to get one archive ? i have to start it all over again
[04:58] <Jucato> mortuss: after you have done that, you can find and install libxine-extracodecs
[05:00] <Ayabara> anyone? do I need to do some hacks in kubuntu for amarok to add aac files to it's collection?
[05:03] <etam> hi
[05:04] <etam> why i dont have aclocal?
[05:04] <etam> how can i get it? while "make" it sais: missing --run aclocal-1.7
[05:04] <mortuss> jucato I have installed it
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> etam,  you may have too new an aclocal
[05:04] <Jucato> mortuss: now try playing your mp3's
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> etam,  thats part of the autopackage tools last i looked aclocal was 1.9
[05:04] <mortuss> player is ok
[05:05] <etam> Dr_Willis: i dons realy understand :|
[05:05] <mortuss> track palying the mp3 song
[05:05] <willnapier> hi everyone. Having problems mounting my usb key. /var/log/messages shows that my system knows it is there, but it is recognised as sdb, whereas in fstab the proc is /dev/sda1 and the mount point is /media/usb_key
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> etam,  fire up synaptic and isntall the older automake packages
[05:05] <Jucato> mortuss: so everything's ok now?
[05:05] <etam> Dr_Willis: too new an aclocal? (i am not good at english)
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> it want version 1.7 you most likely have version 1.9
[05:05] <mortuss> but I dont hear enything noise
[05:05] <etam> Dr_Willis: ok, thank You
[05:06] <mortuss> when the Kubuntu is staring
[05:06] <mortuss> starting I also dont hear anything
[05:08] <auctmore> Hello. Is QIDE from http://qide.free.fr/ in the multiverse repository ?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> !info qide
[05:08] <ubotu> Package qide does not exist in any distro I know
[05:08] <willnapier> also, it tells me to specify the filesystem type. in fstab it is 'auto' - should I put this, or something more specific?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> aparently not auctmore
[05:08] <Jucato> auctmore: I don't think so...
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> willnapier, put in the filesystem type it needs.
[05:09] <mortuss> jucato ?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> like its saying. :P
[05:09] <Jucato> mortuss: is your volume up? (also check for speaker connections and power)
[05:10] <willnapier> Dr_Willis: so the syntax would be 'sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/usb_key?
[05:10] <mortuss> I have laptop
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> -t FILESYSTEMTYPETOUSE
[05:10] <mortuss> so the noise has it
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> dont use 'auto' :) it cant figure it out - is what its saying.. so tell it the filesystem tipe
[05:10] <mortuss> has to it
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> most likely -t vfat
[05:10] <mortuss> maybe drivers ?
[05:11] <auctmore> Thanks folks. Would it be safe to install QIDE by compiling it from source ?
[05:11] <Jucato> mortuss: oh.... hm... is volume in KDE is up? (check the speaker icon in your system tray)
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> auctmore,  ya could alwoas  use the sorce and install it just for a single user in their home dir - safest..
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> auctmore,  i doubt if installing it from source will break anuthing
[05:11] <willnapier> Dr_Willis: ok, it tells me that media/usb_key does not exist - despite it being listed as such in fstab
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> willnapier,  did you MAKE the /medis/usb_key directory first?
[05:12] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: by default do compiled apps get installed into /usr/local/ ?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  if dont right - they should.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> if done right.. :P
[05:12] <Jucato> ah
[05:12] <Xcalibur> yo guys, thanx for all your help with the win32 codecs, now i can stream my favorite vids!!!
[05:12] <willnapier> Dr_Willis: no - so why is it in fstab? And how do I do that?
[05:12] <auctmore> Dr_Willis: Thanks. I'll give it a try.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> thats what some .configure -- option is for,
[05:13] <JohnFlux> --prefix
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> willnapier,  make the directory .. mkdir whatever
[05:13] <willnapier> ok thanks will try that
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> logical eh? :P
[05:13] <willnapier> :D
[05:13] <mortuss> Kmix is ok everything looks ok
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> everyone stares at the mount errors and just seems to blank out. :P
[05:13] <willnapier> in which directory do I make it? in /media?
[05:13] <Jucato> mortuss: it might be a driver problem...
[05:14] <Dr_Willis>  - /media/whatever does not exist.. so yes.. its in  /media/
[05:14] <mortuss> the movies are also without sound
[05:14] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: mounting and fstab isn't exactly the easiest and most comfortable thing to do :-D
[05:14] <JohnFlux> willnapier:   mkdir /media/usb_key
[05:14] <mortuss> I have the Asus A6R
[05:15] <Jucato> mortuss: unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge about sound and drivers.
[05:15] <mortuss> and it have the AC97 soundcard
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume   - it pays to bookmark and read that site and learn all about it :P
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  i find it rather straight forwared and handy :P
[05:15] <Xcalibur> o by the way, when i'm watching vids with Konquerer, how can I set the default player to load as Xine?
[05:15] <JohnFlux> Dr_Willis: i setup mounting ntfs fairly easily
[05:15] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: considering your level of expertise, I am not surprised ehehe
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> JohnFlux, yep. :P
[05:15] <JohnFlux> Dr_Willis: all through the gui
[05:15] <Xcalibur> ?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> JohnFlux,  bah! thats for kids. :P
[05:16] <Jucato> Xcalibur: in Konqueror, go to Settings > File Associations and change it from there
[05:16] <JohnFlux> Dr_Willis: :-)
[05:16] <Xcalibur> ok
[05:16] <Xcalibur> thanx
[05:16] <Jucato> Xcalibur: you're watching vids with Konqueror? or with Kaffeine?
[05:16] <Xcalibur> konqerer
[05:16] <Xcalibur> on break.com
[05:17] <Jucato> Xcalibur: ah, an embedded viewer? yes, go to that settings, but go to the Embedded Viewer tab of File Associations
[05:17] <mattikoo> Hello. I like to install newest nvidia driver, but I don't know how I shut Down X.
[05:18] <pip> if I delete files from kget ,can I get it back ?
[05:18] <Jucato> mattikoo: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. be sure to save everything you need to save first.
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> mattikoo,  i dident have to shut down X untill i was done. then ya can just hit alt-ctrl-backspace
[05:18] <pip> if I delete files from kget ,can I get it back ? Jucato
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> that will Instantly Kill/close off X. which should then restart
[05:18] <Jucato> pip: if you delete files from kget before it finishes downloading, then the answer is no.
[05:19] <mattikoo> How I get X keeping down?
[05:19] <Jucato> pip: but if you delete them from kget when it's finished downloading, the downloaded file won't get deleted
[05:19] <pip> Jucato, OK,think of this situation
[05:20] <mattikoo> Jucato, Dr_Willis: I like to install NVidia run-package and I must do it when X is not running.
[05:20] <Jucato> mattikoo: ah.
[05:21] <Jucato> mattikoo: press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and it will take you to a command line (you have to login there, too). then type "sudo /etc/init,d/kdm stop"
[05:21] <mattikoo> Jucato: I try will it help with crashing
[05:21] <Healot> sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop (ifyou're on kubuntu with default desktop setup)
[05:21] <mattikoo> ok
[05:21] <Jucato> mattikoo: sorry, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[05:22] <mattikoo> thanks :)
[05:22] <Jucato> mattikoo: to start X again, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> mattikoo,  i just use the repos/!nvidia url. ive never messed with the nvidia run package. I do recall a wiki page that told how to do it..
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> ive just never seen the need to use it.
[05:23] <mattikoo> thank you :)
[05:24] <kbrooks> !nvidia
[05:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:25] <pip> Jucato, I have downloaded a file with kget,then I throwed it into Trash ,then I download it again and the place where to store the file is not changed ,then I put the file from the Trash to the folder to the place where I store the file when downloading ,as you see , it will certainly overwrite the same file which is being downloading (they are the same files in fact as I said),and then kget is still working(downing the file )then I delete the file with kget wh
[05:25] <pip> en the second mission is not finished,answer my question ---can I get my lost file back ?
[05:25] <KCmoore> Katapult is so awesome!
[05:25] <Healot> slingshot's better
[05:25] <Jucato> Healot: what's that?
[05:25] <KCmoore> :( XFCE is the only thing that can play shitty .wmv
[05:26] <Jucato> pip: hm... I'm not certain... but I think the answer would be... no.
[05:26] <pip> Jucato, you are rihgt
[05:26] <pip> *right
[05:26] <KCmoore> Hey
[05:26] <KCmoore> How do you install themes?!
[05:26] <KCmoore> I'm going crazy
[05:26] <KCmoore> Its so hard.
[05:26] <Hawkwind> KCmoore: What kind of themes ?
[05:26] <Jucato> KCmoore: what kind of theme?
[05:26] <mortenskyt> KCmoore: hm, lemme see, did it once
[05:27] <Jucato> lol
[05:27] <mortenskyt> you just talk about KDE-themes, no?
[05:27] <KCmoore> Like window themes
[05:27] <mortuss> kto mwi po polsku
[05:27] <Hawkwind> KCmoore: kcontrol
[05:27] <Jucato> lemme see if ubotu still got it right...
[05:27] <KCmoore> I tried that
[05:27] <Jucato> !theme
[05:27] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:27] <mortenskyt> yea, you do know kde-look.org, no?
[05:27] <Healot> !pl
[05:27] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:27] <Hawkwind> mortuss: English only please
[05:27] <Jucato> nope not that...
[05:27] <KCmoore> ever time I try to install a theme it won't work
[05:27] <mortenskyt> hm.....
[05:27] <KCmoore> It doesn't recognise the files.
[05:27] <Jucato> KCmoore: there are different kinds of themes in KDE
[05:27] <Hawkwind> KCmoore: You sure you downloaded the correct type of theme ?
[05:27] <Jucato> ./theme
[05:27] <Kronoz> hi, is edgy eft knot 2 stable enough to be used yet?
[05:28] <Jucato> ~theme
[05:28] <Hawkwind> Kronoz: Not as your main OS
[05:28] <Jucato> What are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[05:28] <kbrooks> Kronoz, its alpha
[05:28] <Jucato> Kronoz: nope.. still changing a lot
[05:28] <Hawkwind> Kronoz: Run it in vmware or do a seperate install of it
[05:28] <mortenskyt> Kronoz: Why would you want that?
[05:28] <Kronoz> ok
[05:28] <Jucato> KCmoore: this might help you get an idea: /theme
[05:28] <mortenskyt> unless you're actually wanting to fix the bugs it has, it's much better to just wait till it becomes stable
[05:28] <Jucato> KCmoore: this might help you get an idea:What are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[05:28] <Kronoz> mortenskyt,  becuase i don't really like kubuntu dapper but i'd like to try eft?
[05:29] <KCmoore> umm
[05:29] <soulrider_> Kronoz: i gto edgy installed in a virtual machine
[05:29] <KCmoore> I just was on kde look
[05:29] <KCmoore> They come in a .tar.gz
[05:29] <Healot> we call it "gzipped tarball" >> fancy
[05:30] <Jucato> KCmoore: read the link I gave, it gives instructions on some of the most common type of themes
[05:30] <Kronoz> one more question, what qt version does eft use?
[05:30] <KCmoore> Thanks
[05:31] <Hawkwind> Kronoz: Probably 3.3.6
[05:31] <soon> If I want to switch from kubuntu to xubuntu .... what is the best / easiest way to do this?
[05:31] <Hawkwind> Kronoz: Because it uses KDE 3.5.4
[05:31] <Hawkwind> soon: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:31] <Hawkwind> soon: Then you can have both KDE and Xfce installed without any issues
[05:32] <KCmoore> sudo apt-get moo
[05:32] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I'd recommend using aptitude instead in this situation...
[05:32] <soon> as easy as that eh?
[05:32] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Why so ?
[05:32] <Hawkwind> soon: Just as easy as that
[05:32] <Kronoz> because aptitiude can remove meta packages as well as add them :p
[05:32] <Jucato> So that removal will be easier later
[05:33] <Hawkwind> Hmmm, apt-get remove works pretty well here :)
[05:33] <Jucato> Hawkwind: it will only remove the package "xubuntu-desktop", not everything else that was installed with it
[05:33] <Kronoz> no, actually it does, it removes the meta package but not any of the packages installed as part of the meta packages
[05:33] <Kronoz> doesn'*
[05:33] <Kronoz> t
[05:35] <Hawkwind> I guess you just need to know how to use apt-get for it to work then :)
[05:35] <Jucato> Hawkwind: probably. you must have used some less known voodoo --switch for that :-D
[05:35] <Jucato> but the regular "apt-get install" won't work...
[05:35] <KCmoore> Why would you actually WANT to use xubuntu!?
[05:35] <KCmoore> Its horrible
[05:36] <Jucato> KCmoore: one word: "choice"
[05:36] <heinkel_111> it's lightweight...
[05:36] <Hawkwind> KCmoore: Personal opinion
[05:36] <KCmoore> I guess.
[05:36] <KCmoore> If your using a low end machine its good.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> I want a Ubuntu with MatchBox.   MatchBubuntu!
[05:36] <KCmoore> Running kde on a crappy computer isn't very good.
[05:36] <Jucato> fortunately, KDE can also become "lightweight" and fast. See PCLinuxOS' MiniMe and Junior
[05:37] <KCmoore> kde is so shiny
[05:37] <KCmoore> I love it.
[05:37] <Jucato> lol
[05:37] <KCmoore> I haven't really found any flaws yet.
[05:37] <KCmoore> apart from this stupid theme thing
[05:37] <larson9999> that's a new topic: what's the best wm?
[05:37] <KCmoore> I'm stuck with the crystal window decoration theme.
[05:38] <Jucato> ok.. we're getting offtopic again... lol
[05:38] <Hawkwind> larson9999: There is no such thing as 'best'.  If there was, there would only be 'one'
[05:38] <Jucato> I like Plastik better than Crystal...
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> "There can be only one!" :)
[05:38] <larson9999> Hawkwind: sure there is.  best is the one i like :)
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> I like Pkastik also.
[05:38] <Jucato> One DE to rule them all!
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> We need a GEOS clone  DE!
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> and an OS-9 ONE!
[05:38] <Jucato> and a <insert DE/OS here> DE
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> in some ways OS-9 had some very neat features.
[05:39] <larson9999> other topics nobody ever talks about: best text editor, best OS, and best distro
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> 'cream' best editor.. :P but i cant get it isntalled..
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> apt-get dont like it for somereason
[05:39] <Hawkwind> larson9999: No, best is the one *I* like :P
[05:39] <Jucato> larson9999: those are topics everyone talks about...
[05:39] <Jucato> just not here
[05:39] <KCmoore> Why does apt-get moo exist?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  cream: Depends:  gvim or  kvim but it is not installable
[05:40] <Jucato> for fun?
[05:40] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: the best slogan: "Cream, it's the best editor you can't install."
[05:40] <larson9999> Jucato: yes, that's were the joke comes in.
[05:40] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:40] <KCmoore> Getting 3D graphics to work was so hard in mandriva
[05:40] <KCmoore> It was a peice of cake with ubuntu
[05:40] <larson9999> KCmoore: which card?
[05:40] <KCmoore> I sure wish I'd swapped sooner
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> so i try to install kvim.. and i get     libpango1.0-0  problems.
[05:41] <larson9999> KCmoore: nvidia is a breeze in mandriva.
[05:41] <larson9999> KCmoore: but it's easy in ubuntu, too.
[05:41] <sc0tch> Question: I just installed the Sun JRE 5.0 runtime thru synaptic, but when I run java -v it still reports 1.4.2 do i need to manually configure something?
[05:41] <KCmoore> I couldn't get it to work!
[05:41] <Kronoz> yviz or something is the replacement kvim i think
[05:42] <zorgluuu> hey i got an idea!
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> !java
[05:42] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:42] <zorgluuu> why not talk about kubunutu support?
[05:42] <larson9999> KCmoore: the NVidia site has step by step instructions that never failed me once in many years
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> sc0tch,  check that url. and the 'update-alternative' section
[05:42] <zorgluuu> good idea no ? :)
[05:42] <sc0tch> Thanks, checking it out right now.
[05:42] <KCmoore> Woah!
[05:42] <Jucato> zorgluuu: perfect idea :-D
[05:42] <Dr_Willis>  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:42] <KCmoore> Thats happened to me before though
[05:42] <dismal_> Can someone help me out.  I can't seem to get laptop-mode to run.  It's set to start on boot but it doesn't run.  I try to start or restart it and it doesn't do anything.
[05:43] <leux> hey guys, i've got a prob: i have an external 250gb harddrive and want to format it with ext2/3 how can i do this?
[05:43] <aquablu> anyone used "ant" jvm?
[05:43] <KCmoore> My friend had hardly any trouble with mandriva but it just kept stuffing up on me.
[05:43] <larson9999> ff keeps locking me up.  well, ff and thunderbird.
[05:44] <inam> hi everybody
[05:44] <inam> im looking for help with my external usb hard disk
[05:44] <leux> me too
[05:44] <leux> hihi
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> leux,  repartition it with gparte/qtparted/fdisk/other tool... then format the new patitions.. then edit the fstab to mount them where you want
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> gparted can repartition and format. :P  if ya got it isntalled..
[05:45] <leux> how can i edit the fstab
[05:45] <Kronoz> nano /etc/fstab
[05:46] <KCmoore> Ok
[05:46] <KCmoore> New topic
[05:46] <leux> okay, thanks, ill try to find out what to write in there
[05:46] <inam> Im not able to wirte into my external hard disk... it says read only media.
[05:46] <KCmoore> Whats the best fps for linux
[05:46] <zorgluuu> KCmoore: tremulous.net
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> rtcw:et :P
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> tremulous makes me seasick
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:47] <KCmoore> Yeah, I've played tremulous for ages
[05:47] <KCmoore> It kinda gets old after a while
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> I play it for 3 min.. and gotta stop.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> and then ya get on a team where NOONE knows whats going on.
[05:47] <KCmoore> and its crappy with only a handfull of people
[05:47] <KCmoore> I love moving the reactor into stupid positions
[05:47] <KCmoore> and then everyone is like: OMG DECON REACTOR!!!!!!
[05:48] <KCmoore> Anyone here played Sauerbraten?
[05:48] <zorgluuu> welll ok then you should install window and play window game :)
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> i like how they yell at me when im the ONLY builder and i am trying tolearn the game. :P
[05:48] <isidor> !frostwire
[05:48] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> like i am trying to see what the Other builder guys are doing! :)
[05:48] <dismal_> Can someone help me out.  I can't seem to get laptop-mode to run.  It's set to start on boot but it doesn't run.  I try to start or restart it and it doesn't do anything.  I'd also like to know how ot manually set my clock speed (the service that handles it automatically also refuses to start...
[05:49] <aquablu> do u need java for frostwire?
[05:49] <KCmoore> dismal_ apt-get moo might help
[05:49] <isidor> aquablu:ya
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> yes aquablu
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> and you wan tthe official sun java
[05:50] <aquablu> im havin dramas on this laptop installing limewire come up with java error i have sun java 5
[05:51] <aquablu> jre 1.4
[05:51] <aquablu> error
[05:51] <gouchi> Hi
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> aquablu,  do a 'java -version' and see what one is your default.
[05:52] <juan> my problem is that when im login in my 2nd display is broken, when i start and use gnome or xfce it works but when i start kde its broken like when im login in, any idea what config i need to change
[05:52] <aquablu> k
[05:53] <isidor> how do i update amarok i tried sudo apt-get update but it doesn't show the latest version
[05:53] <isidor> ?
[05:53] <Healot> !amarok
[05:53] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[05:53] <aquablu> root@aquablu-laptop:/home/aquablu/LimeWire# java -version
[05:53] <aquablu> java version "1.4.2"
[05:53] <aquablu> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[05:54] <aquablu> yet limewire wont install
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> aquablu,  you are not using the sun java by default
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> thats the OTHER java :P
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> !java
[05:54] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:54] <aquablu> oh
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> check the 'update-alternative' section of tha turl
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> and this is Rapidly becoming Faq #1 :P
[05:54] <aquablu> can i enable i to default
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> not sure what the deal is.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> its trivial to change the defaults
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> ive answered this same identical question like 5 times today
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:55] <aquablu> lol
[05:55] <aquablu> thnx 4 help
[06:00] <etam> hi
[06:00] <etam> do You know any good torrent client?
[06:00] <etam> CONSOLE client
[06:00] <Jucato> ktorrent
[06:00] <Jucato> aah
[06:00] <Jucato> sorry
[06:00] <etam> ctorrent is to simple
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> rtorrent is also useable
[06:01] <KomiaPoika> how can i install package ncftp??
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> but some trackers dont like those 2
[06:01] <etam> Dr_Willis: ok, ill try this
[06:01] <etam> Dr_Willis: has it any ncurses gui?
[06:01] <zorgluuu> KomiaPoika: "sudo apt-get install ncftp" ?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> etam,  all the console ones ive seen have a minimal curses gui
[06:01] <KomiaPoika> zorgluuu: it says no such package
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> !info ncftp
[06:02] <ubotu> ncftp: A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.1.9-1 (dapper), package size 441 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[06:02] <KomiaPoika> zorgluuu: i can't even get acroread package!
[06:02] <etam> Dr_Willis: what else did You see?
[06:02] <Healot> !universe
[06:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:02] <zorgluuu> KomiaPoika: i diagnoze an issue in your sources.list :0
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> etam,  theres alwoas the official bittorrent client that has a console version
[06:02] <zorgluuu> !info ncftp
[06:02] <ubotu> ncftp: A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.1.9-1 (dapper), package size 441 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> etam,  check freshmeat for others
[06:02] <KomiaPoika> zorgluuu: what do i add to be able to reach the package?
[06:02] <etam> Dr_Willis: i need one that can download many torrents at a time and i can see what is happening after another login
[06:03] <zorgluuu> !easysource
[06:03] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:03] <etam> Dr_Willis: ok
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> etam,  i normally use rtorrent in a screen session
[06:03] <zorgluuu> KomiaPoika: may help you
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> actually i tend touse 'wine utorrent.exe' now a days :P
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> in a VNC session
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> ok. lets test my Java  factoid
[06:03] <isidor> can someone give me step by step way of adding a network between two linux computers?
[06:04] <etam> :)
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Java Issues? Check --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b   AND for the short fix --> http://pastebin.com/782784
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> isidor,  define 'network' :P
[06:05] <etam> Dr_Willis: has rtorrent any repository for kubuntu?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> !info rtorrent
[06:05] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.2-1 (dapper), package size 152 kB, installed size 448 kB
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> etam,  best to build from source. for the newest
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> isidor,  plug the network cables into a hub/switch/router.. see if the box's can ping each others ip.. you got a network.
[06:05] <isidor> Dr_Willis: as in file sharing and printing between two kubuntu desktops
[06:05] <etam> Dr_Willis: ok
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> isidor,   file sharing btweeen 2 LINUX box's or a windows/linux box?   SAMBA can be used for both cases.. NFS is good for linux to linux.
[06:06] <isidor> two kubuntu desktops
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> or for just a few quick files transfering. thers the FISH:// protocal
[06:06] <isidor> NFS???
[06:07] <dismal_> Any laptop pros here?  My laptop wont stand by/suspend when I close the lid - it does nothing!
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> fish:// in a  konqueror window :P
[06:07] <willnapier> Dr_Willis: I've been reading stuff on mounting filesystems. I can't understand why fstab lists /dev/sda1 for /media/usb_key, but when I look in /dev, there is no /sda1. Why would this be?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> fish://remotemachineiporname
[06:07] <Healot> fish in the water
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> willnapier,  it shows up when the device is inserted -  is it insierted now?
[06:08] <nonickname> if i do two different grub setup's, ie commandline grub, then setup (hd0,0), does it overwrite the first one or append it to the first one?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> willnapier,  OR it may be some other sd#$ device
[06:08] <nonickname> assuming i'm using two different partitions.
[06:09] <KomiaPoika> zorgluuu: what package list should i check to get acroread and ncftp available?
[06:10] <zorgluuu> !info ncftp
[06:10] <ubotu> ncftp: A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.1.9-1 (dapper), package size 441 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[06:10] <zorgluuu> !info acroread
[06:10] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 22263 kB, installed size 53192 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:10] <zorgluuu> KomiaPoika: universe and multiverse :)
[06:10] <guille> hi?
[06:11] <nonickname> df
[06:11] <nonickname> whoops
[06:11] <willnapier> it showed up as sdb on one command I followed.. but why would it be in fstab as /dev/sda1? Also I have used /dev/sda1 successfully in the past to mount the drive
[06:13] <willnapier> this is from fstab: /dev/sda1       /media/usb_key auto noauto,users,exec 0 0
[06:13] <guille> I'm having problems installing the vmware-player. After installing it it gives an error message, that probably some downloaded packages are corrupt
[06:13] <willnapier> but in /dev there is only an sdb and a sdb1
[06:14] <GameCat> can someone tell me how to change the nvidia kernel module? I can't change from nvidia-glx-legacy to nvidia-glx as X complains about the wrong kernel module
[06:15] <GameCat> can someone tell me how to change the nvidia kernel module? I can't change from nvidia-glx-legacy to nvidia-glx as X complains about the wrong kernel module
[06:15] <Komi4> zorgluuu: i have deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multivers in my list, but i still can't fetch ncftp!
[06:15] <willnapier> Dr_Willis: ok it seems that rebooting is important. See you later!
[06:15] <GameCat> I'm guessing that's a no - thanks for listening anyway
[06:16] <zorgluuu> Komi4: well add a e at then of multiverse and do 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:16] <Komi4> the e is there, i just pasted bad
[06:16] <Komi4> ok i didn't know i had to update first
[06:17] <zorgluuu> update = reread all the repository
[06:17] <zorgluuu> ies
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> willnapier,  no its not. :P
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> willnapier,  dependong on the usb devices they can often change the position/number
[06:17] <Komi4> ncftp installing - nervous breakdown aborted meep meep meep meep meep
[06:17] <zorgluuu> cool :)
[06:18] <Komi4> :)
[06:18] <isidor> Dr_Willis: how would i install NFS?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> !nfs
[06:18] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> isidor,  its rather easy to setup. and good for  constant shares.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> isidor,  but it depends on how much data and what you are shareing as to what would be the best method
[06:19] <isidor> Dr_Willis: ok... I want to share music and such
[06:19] <isidor> and a printer
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> isidor,  trivial. :P
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> printer - will be using CUPS for linux to Linux.
[06:20] <isidor> ok then i'll do printer later
[06:20] <isidor> I just want to share my music
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> isidor,  book mark --> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2064   for later when you are trying to get cups working right
[06:22] <isidor> cool thanks
[06:22] <nonickname> crap..
[06:22] <nonickname> anyone care to hear a goofy linux/windows installation?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> isidor,  quick way would be to set up samba on both box's and    smb://amd64/willis   (where you use the remote machine/username)
[06:23] <Healot> nonickname, keep thy problem to thyself :)
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> isidor,  also for each user use 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' so you can access theor  home dirs.
[06:23] <nonickname> :p
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:24] <isidor> Dr_Willis: so should just do samba cause i still dont understand the HowTo on NFS
[06:25] <insanekane> nonickname: i would like to hear it
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> ive allready explained how to do samba. :P lol its trival.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> or use FISH:// and that will be over 'ssh'
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> or use 'smb4k' and mount the samba shares.
[06:25] <insanekane> or use the "Public webserver" applet if you only want to share files
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Problem with Music files - is that the players will try to download THEN play the files..
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> smb4k and nfs, and manual mountingof the samba shares will get around that.
[06:26] <insanekane> Dr_Willis: something else can be done ?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> this is Linux - thers always 12+ ways to do somthing.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Personally - i use smb4k,  for my samba share accessing needs.
[06:27] <insanekane> no i mean, downloading the whole song and then playing it ... is there something else that can be done ?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> insanekane,  thats how the players  and the other methods work
[06:27] <soulrider_> hey, what can i use to add transparency to all my windows and my kicker?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> they are not directly mounting the shares. they are accessng them on the fly so to speak
[06:27] <insanekane> Dr_Willis: ie ? downloading a small part playing it, bufferring the following ?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> insanekane,  that would be streaming. :P
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> thats anotehr possibility if he just wants tos share music.
[06:28] <insanekane> Dr_Willis: yes, so i understand ... i didn't know that that was possible with smb4k ... doesnt smb4k load the whole file (i.e., copy to a local cache) and then provide it to players ?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> smb4k is just a front end that MOUNTS the shares with smbmnt.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> same as if the mount was in the fstab file.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> its not doing anything special at all - just being a nice front end/mounting tool.
[06:30] <insanekane> Dr_Willis: you said "...is that the players will try to download THEN play the files..." ... and then "...the samba shares will get around that..." suggesting that samba doesnt copy the whole file to a local cache before providing it to the player ...
[06:31] <insanekane> Dr_Willis: that, samba gets around downloading the whole son
[06:31] <insanekane> Dr_Willis: so i was a little confused about that
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> insanekane,  the players are not mounting the shares.   they are using a samba client, not samba mount point. :P
[06:31] <Komi4> what files do i need copy to my laptop, to get only kmail config reproduced, but not general kde config??
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> ive fought with samba for like 6+ years, Lol
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> what the user sees is  them accessing a file. and it downloading then playing. :P which confuses them
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> like one would see on a web site
[06:32] <isidor> Dr_Willis:  smb://{what goes here... IP? or...}/{username of the machine want to connect to?}
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> isidor,  the ip of the remote machine and the users username
[06:33] <insanekane> Komi: probably ./.kde/share/config/kmail* and ./.kde/share/apps/kmail
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> lunch time for me.. bbl
[06:35] <isidor> Dr_Willis:  smb://{IP}/{the users username... my username.. or the username of my other machine}
[06:37] <jott> isidor: smb://user@host/share - but i would recommend nfs for a *nix only environment
[06:38] <isidor> *nix?
[06:38] <jott> linux/solaris/bsd what-o-ever ;)
[06:38] <_rince_> re
[06:39] <stewraz> can i get some help compiling java in the console, i wanna use javac, but i think i have to have j2sdk installed yes
[06:40] <isidor> jott: i would do NFS because of so many recommendations(sp) bur i dont get the HowTo
[06:40] <auTONYmous> is anybody else having problems mounting usb drives?
[06:41] <trollinator> no. you're the only one
[06:41] <auTONYmous> thanks..nice to know I'm alone
[06:41] <Jucato> trollinator: and you know this, how?
[06:42] <trollinator> errr....
[06:42] <trollinator> i just do.
[06:42] <Jucato> auTONYmous: there might be some who have a similar problem. I do recall someone asking earlier. (COuldn't pay much attention though, I was busy)
[06:43] <stewraz> so no java buffs here?
[06:43] <auTONYmous> for reference - I'm on 3.5.4 under 2.15-26-k7 kernel
[06:44] <Jucato> auTONYmous: I think there's a problem with KDE 3.5.4 on Kubuntu and HAL, so that would probably explain your problem
[06:44] <auTONYmous> I can't say for sure, I believe that ever since I upgraded to 3.5.4, I lost ability to mount USB drives...one thumb drive VFAT, and one USB Hard disk NTFS/VFAT
[06:44] <Jucato> or maybe not. just that there's a known issue...
[06:45] <auTONYmous> jucato: thanks...at least I know where to start looking for solutions.
[06:47] <isidor> An error occurred while loading smb://isidor2@192.168.2.102/share:
[06:47] <isidor> Timeout on server
[06:47] <isidor>  192.168.2.102
[06:47] <MetaMorfoziS> men! Sikeres xgl eltavolitas rlz.
[06:47] <isidor> i meant to use just one line
[06:48] <isidor> !nl
[06:48] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[06:50] <akrus> hello everyone :)
[06:50] <akrus> I have a problem install Kubuntu 6.06...
[06:51] <isidor> yo ho matie wat the problem is
[06:51] <akrus> the installer stops at step 5 with 'loading'
[06:51] <akrus> everything is okay before (loading partition info, loading OS information, 100%)
[06:52] <akrus> and then nothing happens...
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> akrus, did you check the disk?
[06:52] <akrus> CD?
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[06:52] <akrus> it's ok
[06:52] <akrus> I have 6 CDs left :D
[06:52] <zorgluuu> very uncool
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i mean. did you run the command...
[06:52] <akrus> 6.04 or something like this (beta) works okay
[06:53] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm
[06:53] <akrus> oh wow xD
[06:53] <zorgluuu> before i was able to play tremulous on kubuntu, i did update and the new 3d drivers is like twice slower
[06:53] <akrus> it loaded
[06:53] <zorgluuu> i can no more play tremulous
[06:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i fixed it!
[06:53] <akrus> it took around 40 minutes o_O
[06:53] <zorgluuu> never do update on a working os :) ever
[06:53] <akrus> hooray! finally i'll switch from this @$#%^ windows :D
[06:53] <driz> lol
[06:53] <driz> Awesome no more windows
[06:54] <isidor> YEHAWWWWWWWWW!
[06:54] <akrus> yeah
[06:54] <akrus> actually I had some problems under Kubuntu last time so I had to switch back to Windows...
[06:54] <Tm_T> I have windows all over my KDE desktop ;(
[06:54] <akrus> 1) 5.1 is not working :)
[06:54] <akrus> 2) ATI & Cedega does not support Ragnarok Online properly =)
[06:55] <dismal_> I'm trying to change file permission for a file.  What do I do?  I'm typing chmod all -rwx sleep (sleep is the file) and its not working
[06:55] <kegie> auTONYmous: still here? could you run 'ps -A | grep gnome-volume'? I had to start the gnome-volume-manager manually to get automount on usb
[06:55] <akrus> chmod 0777 ./somefile
[06:55] <driz> oh well you know sometimes dualboot is neccessary when one needs to play games
[06:55] <akrus> I do not play games, I have a game server :)
[06:55] <driz> just use like 4GB of space on your HDD so you can GAME!!
[06:55] <akrus> Tux Racer is nice when i wanna play x)
[06:55] <driz> oh ok
[06:56] <zorgluuu> any suggestion on how do i get back to a working state with my graphic card ? it is a intel 915gm
[06:56] <zorgluuu> and the broken update has been done yesterday
[06:56] <zorgluuu> my previous one was like 2month ago
[06:56] <akrus> why does it load so long T_T
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> zorgluuu, sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:57] <dismal_> Thanks akrus
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago>  zorgluuu sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:59] <Xcalibur> how can I configure tor?
[07:00] <Xcalibur> I just installed tor, but is there and interface, or do I have to use Konsole to configure it?
[07:00] <Xcalibur> !tor
[07:00] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[07:00] <zorgluuu> Admiral_Chicago: ok rebooting to know the amount of ram in my card
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> zorgluuu, you don't need to do that
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> neverminh
[07:01] <Jucato> ??
[07:01] <akrus> lol loaded
[07:01] <akrus> I really need new HDD T_T
[07:02] <Jucato> "free -m"
[07:02] <Jucato> aah nvm too
[07:02] <zorgluuu> Admiral_Chicago: trying the old kernel :) maybe it is the kernel module which is bugged :)
[07:02] <Jucato> lol
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> zorgluuu, i'm gonig to lunch
[07:03] <Jucato> doesn't KInfoCenter also give you an idea of how much memory the video card has?
[07:04] <sek> coucou
[07:04] <soulrider> yay! i got transparency working :P
[07:05] <soulrider> looks sooooooo cool =)
[07:05] <Jucato> soulrider: using XGL?
[07:05] <KomiaPoika> soulrider: congratz
[07:05] <zorgluuu> mouaoauoua for sure, i wont break again my rule 'dont update a working os' soon :)
[07:05] <zorgluuu> old kernel got the same issue
[07:05] <soulrider> yes, i think so
[07:06] <soulrider> i just followed the instructions on ubuntuforums.org
[07:06] <soulrider> it looks soooooooo sweet now
[07:06] <Jucato> er.... which instructions?
[07:06] <Jucato> care to share :-D
[07:06] <soulrider> sure, hang on
[07:07] <soulrider> katapult looks like crap though :/
[07:07] <Jucato> ehehe
[07:07] <Trollinator> you look like crap...
[07:07] <Jucato> ...
[07:08] <soulrider> jucato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527&highlight=transparency+howto
[07:08] <Jucato> soulrider: thanks! I'll take a look at it
[07:08] <soulrider> it looks like crap with the transparency efects
[07:09] <soulrider> ill take a screenshot of kataput and shot you
[07:09] <Trollinator> hm, that's certainly true..
[07:09] <josh__> who took my nick?
[07:09] <soulrider> what was hte shortcut to show desktop ?
[07:09] <josh__> i was Xcalibur
[07:09] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+D
[07:09] <josh__> who took it?
[07:09] <soulrider> were you registered?
[07:09] <josh__> no
[07:09] <soulrider> thanks
[07:09] <josh__> but somone took it
[07:09] <soulrider> i was trying ctrl + D
[07:09] <Jucato> josh__: were you disconnected?
[07:09] <josh__> no
[07:10] <soulrider> well, if you werent registered then youre screwed :P
[07:10] <josh__> it just said trying a different nick
[07:10] <josh__> lol
[07:10] <Jucato> it's probably just a ghost...
[07:10] <josh__> ok,let me try to boot it
[07:10] <josh__> how I do that?
[07:10] <Jucato> you can't, since it's not registered...
[07:11] <josh__> omg
[07:11] <josh__> can you boot it?
[07:11] <Jucato> nope...
[07:11] <josh__> plz jucato!
[07:11] <josh__> darn
[07:11] <Jucato> I can't. I'm not an op
[07:11] <josh__> it was worth a try :-P
[07:11] <josh__> lol
[07:11] <Jucato> :-D
[07:11] <akrus> lol
[07:11] <akrus> new window appeared "Progress"
[07:11] <josh__> i must have been disconnected
[07:11] <josh__> i did a whois
[07:11] <akrus> it's a real progress :D
[07:11] <josh__> it's my hostname
[07:12] <zorgluuu> mouaoua dpkg-reconfigure doesnt support ctrl-c or esc and doesnt propose anyway to go back to the previous option
[07:12] <zorgluuu> i did close the kconsole
[07:12] <zorgluuu> and now there is a pending lock :)
[07:12] <josh__> darn!!1
[07:13] <stephan__> hi
[07:13] <akrus> hey
[07:19] <akrus> woot!
[07:19] <akrus> new step ^__^
[07:20] <stewraz> hey is there anyone here tht can help me with JAVA
[07:21] <graft> i'm trying to get zeroconf support working but i dont seem to have any 'mdnsd' running - what do i do?
[07:23] <warpzone> hey guys, quck question:
[07:23] <zorgluuu> q. i try to use "system setting" in the main menu to configure my graphic card. all the autodetection seems to work ok when i do it. i am in "administrator mode" but i cant save, all the 'apply' are greyed... how can i save the configuration ?
[07:23] <warpzone> i just switched to kubuntu from ubuntu... does it use a seperate sources.list? seems like some programs are still installing using gnome libraries
[07:24] <JohnFlux> If I try to browse an samba share from a linux machine it just lets me without asking for a password
[07:24] <graft> kubuntu uses the same sources.list
[07:24] <JohnFlux> when I try from windows, it asks for a username and password
[07:24] <JohnFlux> and nothing seems to work
[07:24] <JohnFlux> any ideas why?
[07:24] <graft> where's the samba share?
[07:24] <JohnFlux> graft: on this machine
[07:25] <JohnFlux> graft: a linux machine
[07:25] <warpzone> hmm I'll have to investigate, thanks though graft
[07:25] <graft> ah... um do you want a password or not?
[07:26] <JohnFlux> I don't want a password no
[07:26] <zorgluuu> q. when i do "system setting" in the main menu, then "display", i change the config, how can i save it ?
[07:26] <auTONYmous> I just discovered something...I need to downgrade my HAL package under kubuntu...
[07:27] <graft> JohnFlux: wanna post your smb.conf?
[07:28] <driz> hey guys does gaim have the plugin to tell people what song you are listening to like Kopete
[07:28] <driz> ?
[07:28] <isidor> i use kopete i dont know
[07:29] <driz> well anyone else?
[07:29] <MetaMorfoziS> the worst place ever to ask it in kubuntu
[07:29] <MetaMorfoziS> that is based on kde and not im support channel
[07:29] <isidor> yes
[07:29] <MetaMorfoziS> try it in #gaim
[07:29] <MetaMorfoziS> or #kde:DDD
[07:29] <MetaMorfoziS> or simply use kopete:D
[07:30] <driz> I do use kopete
[07:30] <isidor> well then come on... leave GAim alone
[07:30] <Trollinator> Gaim sucks
[07:30] <isidor> yup
[07:30] <Haz> hmm
[07:30] <Haz> which reminds me
[07:30] <driz> ok then i'll stop asking
[07:30] <Haz> anyone know how to manually change the personal message for MSN?
[07:31] <Haz> (in kopete, obviously :P)
[07:31] <isidor> :-
[07:31] <zorgluuu> q. how to reconfigure the graphic card ?
[07:31] <Trollinator> click on the butterfly in the bottom of the window, then point on "Online" and click "new message"
[07:32] <Trollinator> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:32] <Trollinator> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:32] <zorgluuu> well this reconfigure all the x server with a buggy software :)
[07:32] <zorgluuu> i did try :)
[07:32] <Trollinator> what do you want to do anyway?
[07:33] <zorgluuu> the stuff doesnt support to be interupted, doesnt support ctrl-c or esc
[07:33] <akrus> could someone tell me what does 'active' mean while selecting the partitions for linux installation?
[07:33] <zorgluuu> i had a working 3d driver yesterday, i did update and now the 3d is like twice slower
[07:33] <zorgluuu> i got a 915gm intel
[07:33] <akrus> should I select the partition that will be used for installation?
[07:33] <zorgluuu> i would like to get back my 3d card :)
[07:34] <zorgluuu> i tried 'system setting' in the menu then display, but it wont let me save
[07:34] <leux> sorry, here me again, i had no success: how can i mount my 250gb external hd when its formatted ext2
[07:34] <zorgluuu> i rebooted several time to see if it was another bug in the lock but it wont budge :) cant save the config and wont say why :)
[07:35] <zorgluuu> leux: mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt/balbalbla
[07:35] <leux> okay, thats fine, ill try, thx
[07:35] <zorgluuu> i was using kubuntu only to play tremulous and i can no more
[07:36] <zorgluuu> Trollinator: any suggfestion on how to configure the gfraphic card
[07:36] <zorgluuu> hmm maybe should i fully reinstall, maybe the bug is not yet on the cd ...
[07:38] <zorgluuu> ok so i will reinstall, anyway this install is unfixable now. and i had gnome installed too
[07:39] <leux> zorgluuu::: okay, i did sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 and got mount point /media/sda1 does not exist.
[07:39] <zorgluuu> and 'ls -ld /media/sda' give you what ?
[07:39] <zorgluuu> sda1 i meant :)
[07:40] <akrus> finally
[07:40] <akrus> installing Kubuntu :D
[07:40] <akrus> I'm the happiest boy in Russia at the moment 8))
[07:41] <warpzone> yeha I just installed kubuntu... kubuntu >>> ubuntu
[07:41] <leux> zorgluuu::: no such dir :(
[07:41] <akrus> I just love KDE :) it's really cute now... ten times better than Windows... or even twenty :)
[07:41] <zorgluuu> leux: well create it then :) "mkdir /media/sda1"
[07:42] <tsdgeos> akrus: :-)
[07:42] <warpzone> arkus: I just love the konfigurability :-P but really it can do a ton
[07:43] <warpzone> speaking of configuring... how do you make keyboard shortcuts in KDE?
[07:45] <akrus> lol I really love Linux... it's copying files... at the same moment I'm listening to online radio, surfing the net & talking with my ICQ contacts
[07:45] <akrus> Kubuntu developers know that people really need :)
[07:45] <leux> zorgluuu:: now i'm able to mount, but can't write files... whats wrong
[07:45] <evert> hello all , i'm having a little problem with grub
[07:45] <etam> hi
[07:45] <dismal_> I've just plugged in my USB HD, it has two NTFS drives on it.  Before it would auto detect but now it wont.  How do I go about mounting the two drives?
[07:46] <evert> I have got 2 hard disks (hda with windows and hdb with kubuntu) and i did a fixmbr on hda so i f*cked up my grub
[07:46] <evert> i'm now using a live cd
[07:46] <evert> but how can i get my grub back on hda ?
[07:46] <akrus> evert: try rescue mode
[07:46] <akrus> evert: it has an option to reinstall grub
[07:46] <nnn0> grub-install
[07:46] <etam> what can i do to run application and logoff that when i log in the application will still work an i will be able to bring it to front
[07:47] <evert> how can i try rescue mode without a boatloader to choice for rescue mode ?
[07:47] <akrus> CD?
[07:47] <auTONYmous> solved my USB drives problem...the NTFS-3g debs break either HAL or pmount...not sure which, but I downgraded back to the standards and my drives work fine now
[07:47] <evert> I have the 'alternate' kubuntu cd ... I'm now using a gentoo live cd
[07:47] <nnn0> man grub-install ;)
[07:47] <auTONYmous> ...just with NTFS read/write
[07:47] <akrus> Gentoo </3 use console then as nnn0 recommends
[07:48] <dismal_> I've just plugged in my USB HD, it has two NTFS drives on it.  Before it would auto detect but now it wont.  How do I go about mounting the two drives?
[07:48] <akrus> dismal_: man mount?
[07:48] <evert> How about this error ? grub> install /dev/hda1
[07:48] <evert> Error 12: Invalid device requested
[07:48] <akrus> :)
[07:48] <akrus>  /dev/hda?
[07:49] <evert> my first hard disk ?
[07:49] <akrus> I think it should be in MBR
[07:49] <evert> how can i get it in MBR then ?
[07:49] <akrus> then you do not need 1/2/3/etc...
[07:49] <nnn0>  /hda is mbr, /hda1 is the first partition
[07:49] <akrus>  /dev/hda, /dev/sda
[07:49] <evert> same error with /dev/hda in place of hda1
[07:49] <akrus> (second if SCSI/SATA HDD)
[07:49] <dan_> how do i enable universe and multiverse
[07:49] <akrus> try /dev/sda
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
[07:50] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:50] <evert> i don't have sata :)
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> dan_,  or use adepts repo managment tools
[07:50] <MetaMorfoziS> adept :/
[07:50] <akrus> hm, check the HDD then, maybe it's missing :D
[07:51] <ROBOd> hello guys
[07:51] <evert> It's not mising
[07:51] <ROBOd> how do i get access keys working in konqueror?
[07:51] <etam> can anyone help me?
[07:51] <akrus> try lilo :)
[07:51] <ROBOd> pressing Ctrl these do not show-up
[07:51] <nnn0> :)
[07:51] <dan_> Dr_Willis: what is that im new to linux
[07:51] <etam> how can i minimize my application in console?
[07:51] <evert> i always used grub and it worked fine till now
[07:51] <evert> I just have to reinstall it
[07:52] <akrus> then now it's time to try lilo ^^
[07:52] <evert> why that ? When i'm happy with grub ?
[07:52] <ROBOd> i have also tried Ctrl+Alt+key ... this doesn't work either
[07:52] <akrus> how can you be happy when it's not installed?
[07:52] <evert> It just worked good , i only screwed it up by doing a 'fixmbr' with the windows cd ;)
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> dan_,  the package manager tool for kuuntu is adept
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> !adept
[07:52] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:52] <Xcalibur> ok
[07:52] <MetaMorfoziS> but it's a crap, so use synaptic:D
[07:53] <MetaMorfoziS> !synaptic
[07:53] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:53] <akrus> try throwing Windows CD out the window, maybe grub detects it somewhere near PC and does not want to be removed again :D
[07:53] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[07:53] <Xcalibur> i'm installing alien, how can i change the aim for linux package.rpm to a .deb?
[07:53] <akrus> Xcalibur: it's simple: alien source.rpm target.deb
[07:53] <evert> lol akrus .. I just wants to get my kubuntu booting back again ... I'm not in a good mood ... I lost all my data on my windows disk (170gb is gone :()
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> heh
[07:54] <nnn0> :)
[07:54] <nnn0> evert: did you try "grub-install /dev/hda
[07:54] <akrus> actually I cannot recommend you anything but installing lilo. You may install it just for now and replace it with grub later.
[07:54] <Emanuelt> hi all
[07:54] <MetaMorfoziS> auTONYmous: and searching in descriptions
[07:54] <akrus> nnn0: he did
[07:54] <nnn0> k
[07:54] <akrus> :)
[07:54] <MetaMorfoziS> and starting up 100% of times...
[07:54] <evert> I did the grub install /dev/hda
[07:54] <dan_> Dr_Willis:im the adept manager now what do i do
[07:54] <MetaMorfoziS> and able to answer debvconf's questions
[07:54] <auTONYmous> and saving toolbar prefs
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> !adept
[07:55] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:55] <akrus> without the dash?
[07:55] <MetaMorfoziS> !synaptic
[07:55] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:55] <evert> how can i install lilo then ?
[07:55] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> read the adepthowto and learn the fundamentals.
[07:55] <akrus> man lilo :D
[07:55] <Emanuelt> can some one help me to install the KWlan please ?  i got ann error msg
[07:55] <evert> i just wants to get a booting system
[07:55] <nnn0> he could try to chroot into the sda1 maybe
[07:56] <akrus> 3 minutes left...
[07:56] <drnoone> hi all
[07:56] <akrus> downloading language files take a lot of time with my sucky internet connection x_X
[07:56] <evert> argh , how can i quit a man page ?
[07:56] <akrus> q
[07:56] <nnn0> q
[07:56] <Xcalibur> ok
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> its using the less pager. :P
[07:56] <evert> ahh thx :)
[07:56] <akrus> :)
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> man less
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:57] <akrus> lol
[07:57] <evert> why are man pages so difficult :O
[07:57] <akrus> info less
[07:57] <akrus> :D
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> I find them every easy
[07:57] <drnoone> lol
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> info man
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> man info
[07:57] <Emanuelt> i got "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"   when i try to install KWlan
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> man woman
[07:57] <drnoone> man man
[07:57] <akrus> you may use 'grep' for searching info
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> lol
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Emanuelt,  install the qt developer packages
[07:57] <evert> i was just hoping to install grub wich i know :) , not for reading the man page of **** lilo :P
[07:57] <etam> please tell me how can i minimize console application that when i logback the application still works?
[07:58] <akrus> btw what's the latest version of Cedega?
[07:58] <Emanuelt> apt-get install qt  not work for me
[07:58] <dan_> what is kate?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> etam,  use screen on the console - its a handy tool
[07:58] <akrus> Emanuelt: apt-cache search qt
[07:58] <drnoone> etam: app-name & doesn't works?
[07:58] <akrus> dan_: an application :)
[07:58] <Emanuelt> 10x akrus
[07:58] <Emanuelt> i will try
[07:58] <Emanuelt> brb
[07:59] <etam> drnoone: how can i bring it back?
[07:59] <etam> drnoone: this application that i &
[07:59] <etam> Dr_Willis: is it an application?
[07:59] <drnoone> etam: there was a command fg I believe
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> !info screen
[07:59] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 566 kB, installed size 976 kB
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> read a few bash tutorials/guides also on 'job controll'
[07:59] <nnn0> evert: you could try to mount sda, chroot into it and then try grub-install again
[08:00] <nnn0> sda1 i mean
[08:00] <nnn0> the old kubuntu
[08:00] <etam> drnoone: thanks
[08:00] <akrus> it's 22:00 in Moscow...
[08:00] <etam> Dr_Willis: ok, i will
[08:00] <akrus> and I have to go to university tomorrow :(
[08:01] <drnoone> anyone has problems with sound on .mov videos? (from my digital cammera). I'm using kaffeine (xine) and it sounds chopped
[08:01] <evert> nnn0 , i only have hda no sda
[08:01] <evert> i'll try to mount it (i'm not very good wit linux yet)
[08:01] <akrus> evert: that's the same
[08:01] <nnn0> evert: so kubuntu is in hda2 ?
[08:02] <evert> indeed
[08:02] <evert> kubuntu is hdb , windows is hda
[08:02] <evert> i have got 2 hard disks
[08:02] <akrus> ...
[08:02] <akrus> fdisk /dev/hda
[08:02] <akrus> and clean it
[08:02] <akrus> wipe everything out
[08:02] <akrus> :D
[08:03] <akrus> have you tried loading from hdb?
[08:03] <akrus> setting it default in BIOS
[08:03] <nnn0> evert: try to mount hdb1 then, chroot it, and run grub-install from there
[08:03] <evert> yes , but i got a grub error then when choicing for linux
[08:04] <akrus> now rebooting to Kubuntu :)
[08:04] <akrus> cya~
[08:04] <evert> how can i chroot ?
[08:04] <akrus> ;d
[08:04] <akrus> :D
[08:05] <akrus> man chroot :D :D :D
[08:05] <nnn0> if you have mounted it as /mnt/hdb1, just chroot /mnt/hdb1
[08:06] <evert> *reading the ubuntu wiki's how to mount something*
[08:08] <nnn0> first cd /mnt, then mkdir hdb1, and then mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[08:09] <evert> I'm now chroot@livecd :)
[08:09] <evert> now just doing the 'grub-install /dev/hda' ?
[08:09] <nnn0> eh
[08:09] <nnn0> maybe you have to mount that too
[08:10] <nnn0> so instead of using grub-install /dev/hda, you could do grub-install /mnt/hda
[08:10] <nnn0> maybe not
[08:10] <nnn0> !
[08:10] <nnn0> :)
[08:10] <nnn0> yeah try grub-install after you have chroot'ed
[08:11] <evert> installation finished
[08:11] <evert> i have got grub back again :)
[08:11] <evert> hope it works
[08:11] <evert> i installed it just on hda , not on mnt/hda
[08:11] <Xcalibur> :-P-:
[08:11] <nnn0> maybe you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst also
[08:11] <nnn0> try to boot first
[08:12] <evert> ok
[08:12] <evert> thx for the help :)
[08:12] <nnn0> np
[08:12] <evert> i'm still a bit angry because i lost 170gb of data :(
[08:12] <evert> but really thx :)
[08:12] <nnn0> i know the feeling :)
[08:12] <evert> it's not my fault :P
[08:12] <nnn0> have you tried to restore it ?
[08:13] <evert> how ?
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> evert, i did that once
[08:13] <evert> The NTFS partition is still there
[08:13] <evert> but i even can't mount it
[08:13] <evert> in another windows pc i also can't read it any more
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> thats why i switched to linux, because Windows messed up
[08:13] <evert> he is complaining about some 'ntldr missing'
[08:13] <evert> I'm first rebooting to be in kubuntu :)
[08:14] <Dannilion> that error comes up about once a year for my partner
[08:14] <evert> really ?
[08:14] <Dannilion> yup
[08:14] <evert> how to fix it ? I tried everything
[08:14] <nnn0> if it's just ntldr which is missing, the partition could be fine
[08:14] <Dannilion> reinstalling windows worked- for a few days
[08:14] <evert> yeah , but then i loose the data
[08:14] <Dannilion> you tried reinstalling Windows over the top?
[08:15] <Dannilion> without formatting?
[08:15] <nnn0> when you tried to mount it, did you specify the fylesystem: mount -t ntfs.....
[08:15] <Dannilion> Will give you time to back up your data
[08:15] <evert> He couldn't do the reapair thing , he couldn't find the 'xp installation'
[08:15] <evert> i'm first going to reboot , then i come back :)
[08:15] <evert> i appreciete the help here :)
[08:16] <Dannilion> never mind :P
[08:19] <evert> hello i'm back :)
[08:19] <evert> my grub worked ... Really thanks :)
[08:19] <Dannilion> great :)
[08:19] <nnn0> cool
[08:19] <nnn0> :)
[08:20] <dan_> how do i install limewire
[08:20] <nnn0> now try to mount hda1
[08:20] <evert> If i could get some data from the other ntfs hard disk i would be in love with you :D ;)
[08:21] <nnn0> try: cd /mnt, mkdir ntfs and then mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs
[08:21] <evert> I'll try it
[08:22] <Hexidigital> how do i install the KDE headers? (for Qt 3)
[08:22] <nnn0> then you just: ls -al /mnt/ntfs too see if the files are there
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> !limewire
[08:22] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[08:23] <evert> i did it , but i get the error i always get ...
[08:23] <evert> evert@evert:/mnt$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs
[08:23] <evert> mount: slecht soort bestandssysteem, slechte optie, slecht superblok op /dev/hda1,
[08:23] <evert>        ontbrekende codepagina of andere fout
[08:23] <evert>        In sommige gevallen wordt er nuttige informatie gevonden in syslog
[08:23] <evert> - probeer dmesg | tail ofzo
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> dan_,  install and set up the officl sun java, for a start and check out frostwire
[08:23] <evert> it's in dutch i'm sorry
[08:23] <evert> i can't get it in english
[08:23] <nnn0> eh what does it say ?
[08:24] <evert> bad kind of filesystem , bad option or
[08:24] <nnn0> k
[08:24] <evert> any solution for that ?
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[08:24] <nnn0> hm i'm not sure
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> I say do some reading and follow their examples
[08:25] <evert> Ok , i'll read it and see what i can do with the information
[08:25] <evert> but it's not a 'normal' mounting
[08:25] <nnn0> maybe it really is something wrong and you have to use some forensic tool
[08:26] <evert> i think so :(
[08:26] <dan_> limewire keeps opening up in photo and text and i tried frostwire and it opened in kate
[08:26] <nnn0> kubuntu should support ntfs read at least out of the box
[08:26] <stewraz> what is the best software for creating iso files
[08:26] <evert> in the past i was able to read ntfs without problems :)
[08:26] <Dr_Willis>        /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> from my fstab
[08:27] <Emanuelt> akrus  i still get "error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found" when i try to configure the KWlan , and i install something like 300mb of qt-dev v.3 & v.4,  what did i miss ?
[08:27] <evert> i had something like that in my fstab , but this is a new install .... (since yesterday , since my ntfs is broken)
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> qt-mt hmm
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> !info libqt3-mt
[08:28] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3078 kB, installed size 8728 kB
[08:28] <nnn0> bbl
[08:28] <Emanuelt> i did install it all ready
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> Emanuelt,  thats my guess as to what you need ya sure ya got the -dev packages with it as well?
[08:29] <Emanuelt> yes
[08:29] <Emanuelt> i get almost every pkg and start with qt3  and libqt
[08:29] <Emanuelt> its like 300mb of files
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> stewraz, do you have.bin and .cue/
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> did you get kde-devel (if you did and its still not working it may be that its written for an old version of kde
[08:30] <stewraz> i dont have an iso yet, i need to make on
[08:30] <stewraz> one
[08:30] <Emanuelt> i use  qt3* and libqt*
[08:30] <evert> I can't find something usefull in the link you gave me dr_Willis
[08:30] <draik> I'm trying to ssh into my laptop from my desktop via my network. My desktop gave me an error about WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! Any clues on fixing this?
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> stewraz, yes, i know that i'm saying what kind of files do you have
[08:32] <Emanuelt> i also try to install the deb version of it   dpkg -i kwlan_0.5.3-1_i386.deb   with no help
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> draik: remove .ssh/known_hosts (or the relevent entry for that file) or install a suitable key into that file
[08:32] <stewraz> admiral- not sure what u r asking
[08:32] <draik> h3sp4wn, how do I install a key?
[08:32] <stewraz> the disk is full of ainly .jpg
[08:33] <stewraz> mailny
[08:33] <stewraz> mainly; lol sorry
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Emanuelt, sudo dpkg -i <deb>
[08:33] <Emanuelt> yes
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i dunno
[08:33] <Emanuelt> 10x any way to all of you
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> you cane use k3b to write them but I don't think thats what you want to do
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> draik: I just normally just cat keyfile >> .ssh/known_hosts - but you probably just want to get rid of the offending key (just delete it from the file)
[08:34] <Emanuelt> i'll try to find something
[08:34] <stewraz> i have downloaded a program called kiso. but cause im new to linux im not sure how to install it
[08:34] <draik> h3sp4wn, just     sudo rm /root/.ssh/known_hosts             ?
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> evert,  on what link? i frogot the question. :P
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> stewraz, on your desktop?
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> draik: why are you logged in as root ? and ssh'ing as root ?
[08:35] <stewraz> ye
[08:35] <stewraz> yep
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> evert,  check dmesg output. see if any issues are showing up there.
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> stewraz, whats the extension
[08:36] <evert> The link about mounting a NTFS partition
[08:36] <draik> I tried to go through konqueror, but I didn't have rights to the file so I had to 'kdesu konqueror', so I thought I have to sudo anything in there
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> what does it end it
[08:36] <draik> I haven't though
[08:36] <stewraz> admiral- tar.gz
[08:36] <draik> not ssh'ing as root either
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> stewraz, right click -- extract here
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> or learn to use the shell. :P
[08:37] <stewraz> yep i did that
[08:37] <stewraz> i have the dir on the desktop
[08:37] <evert> how can i use the dmesg output ?
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> 'dmesg' command
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> see if it sputs out an error while mounting that ntfs
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> now do you have a bunch of files called like "install" "config" and what not
[08:37] <evert> ok
[08:38] <draik> h3sp4wn, I deleted the key and I'm able to connect... but it doesn't accept the password set for my laptop's user
[08:38] <stewraz> admiral- yep
[08:38] <evert> [4295001.845000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Primary boot sector is invalid.
[08:38] <evert> [4295001.845000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Mount option errors=recover not used. Aborting without trying to recover.
[08:38] <evert> [4295001.845000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): ntfs_fill_super(): Not an NTFS volume.
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> draik: try resetting the password
[08:39] <draik> h3sp4wn, I just checked something... turns out that IPs on desk/laptop were switched
[08:39] <evert> So , what do i know now ?
[08:39] <draik> I got it now
[08:39] <draik> Thanks for your help h3sp4wn
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> stewraz, open up a terminal
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> draik: That would explain it - ssh host keys are tied to ipaddress
[08:40] <phreakys> hey
[08:40] <draik> yup
[08:40] <phreakys> anyone knows a good gui ftp server?
[08:40] <draik> and since the power cycle 2 days ago, I forgot to check them
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> evert,  you sure hda1 is the right drive?
[08:41] <evert> yes i'm sure
[08:41] <stewraz> admiral- yep im three now
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> looks like it may be trashed. :(
[08:41] <evert> i checked it out with fdisk -l
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> evert,  try 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> stewraz, type cd /home/user/Desktop/file
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> ok :P if you DOUBLE and Tripple chedked. :P
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> replace user and file with your username
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> and the file name
[08:41] <evert> Schijf /dev/hda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
[08:41] <evert> the hda is the ntfs hard disk
[08:42] <draik> h3sp4wn, is there a way for me to get a file from my laptop via ssh?
[08:42] <nlindblad> how do I switch to another X display from within KDE?
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> wow, we have over 300 users
[08:42] <stewraz> admiral- yep i got it instaled, thanks for your patients
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> stewraz, cool
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> nlindblad,  you mean one running on aonther tty? or how to create another on a different tty?
[08:42] <h3sp4wn> draik: scp --help or man scp (simple example scp filename user@host:~)
[08:42] <dein> good morning
[08:43] <nlindblad> Dr_Willis: switch ot it
[08:43] <nlindblad> *to
[08:43] <draik> thanks, I just don't know what I would be looking for... thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> nlindblad,  alt-ctrl-F7, F8 and on up.
[08:43] <nlindblad> thanks :P
[08:44] <complexity> How do i restore default alsamixer settings
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> nlindblad,  vnc is handy to have extra X sessions running/testing stuff out in as well.
[08:45] <stewraz> admiral- i now have a program that is in a kmdr file
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> stewraz, check the repos for programs
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> open up adept, there are a ton of packages in there
[08:50] <stewraz> is there a way i can make an iso from a DVD using the console
[08:51] <kaarlo> stewraz, use dd?
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> what kind of dvd?
[08:52] <kaarlo> stewraz, are you talking about movie or data DVD?
[08:52] <stewraz> data dvd
[08:52] <azazel_> #kubuntu-fr
[08:52] <Emanuelt> Thank you every one, need to go.
[08:53] <kaarlo> stewraz, dd if=pathtoDVD of=output.iso
[08:53] <ubuntu__> hello people
[08:54] <stewraz> what is the usual path to a dvd
[08:54] <kaarlo> stewraz, if you use dd dont mount the device; just use if=/dev/dvd for instance
[08:54] <ubuntu__> hi people
[08:55] <ubuntu__>  any one know a site where i can get linux send on cd free to me?
[08:59] <zorgluuu> !shipit
[08:59] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[09:00] <zorgluuu> Ray_Ray: this was for you :)
[09:00] <Ray_Ray> thanks
[09:00] <Ray_Ray> yeah i done that
[09:01] <etuncer> burada turk var mi?
[09:03] <Ray_Ray> how do i protect my nice name
[09:03] <Ray_Ray> via password
[09:03] <Ray_Ray> using msg
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> you mean your nick on this server?
[09:03] <Dr_Willis>  - /msg nickserv help
[09:03] <Ray_Ray> yeah please
[09:03] <Ray_Ray> thanks its been a long time i can not rember commands
[09:05] <jvives> hey all!
[09:05] <Eeyore_Jr>  /msg nickserv register password
[09:05] <ged> is ubuntuforums having some trouble lately or is it just my crappy ISP?
[09:07] <jvives> it's having problems
[09:07] <jvives> I'm at Chile, so probably not sharing ISP
[09:08] <jvives> and I'm also having trouble getting to uf.org
[09:08] <ged> heh
[09:08] <ro> guys i need some help : cant install java on kubuntu : dependancies problem
[09:09] <Ray_Ray> !java
[09:09] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:09] <jvives> I nedd help with the famous "mesa issue" (ati card, fglrxinfo showing mesa instead of ati)... any one familiar with it?
[09:10] <h3sp4wn> jvives: Are you using drivers from ati.com
[09:11] <h3sp4wn> jvives: If you are using the ones from the repositories - make sure you have 'restricted' after main for dapper-security in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:12] <silverto> Hi everyone, I am new to linux and I can't get kubuntu to see my opengl video card. Can someone help?
[09:13] <zorgluuu> tell me about it :)
[09:13] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Does anyone know of a good GIF animation program?  Or perhaps know of a process for changing MPEG to GIF?
[09:13] <silverto> you have problems too?
[09:13] <zorgluuu> i mean i got issue with my card too :)
[09:13] <jvives> h3sp4wn: nope, got them using apt xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:14] <silverto> Whenever I install the pakage in adept xwindows becomes black screen I can't see anything
[09:14] <scroll_lock> zorgluuu is n=fred@94.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net ()
[09:14] <scroll_lock> [20:13]  [Whois]  zorgluuu is a user on channels: #Azureus-Hackers #kde-devel #kde4-devel #kubuntu #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:14] <scroll_lock> [20:13]  [Whois]  zorgluuu is online via irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.net/).
[09:14] <scroll_lock> [20:13]  [Whois]  End of WHOIS list.
[09:14] <zorgluuu> and this is between me and my tremulous which is so good at destressing me
[09:14] <jvives> I've been reading a lot, so I also did the apt-remove restricted-modules blah blah
[09:14] <zorgluuu> scroll_lock: ?
[09:15] <heinkel_111> anyone seen a guide on how to configure x-forwarding from a host to client on local network?
[09:15] <zorgluuu> !nx
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <SpAwN> hello all i seem to be having a problem...this is the 2nd or 3rd time ive woke up to a computer that is locked up.....nothing responds...not the keyboard nor the mouse do anything.....so i have to do a hard reboot......now im thinking ndiswrapper has a role in this ill put in pastebin part of my syslog and well.....last thing b4 i reboot is somthing about ndiswrapper
[09:15] <scroll_lock> can u really hack KDE?
[09:15] <h3sp4wn> jvives: make sure you have the matching restricted modules to your running kernel (will be from dapper-security restricted which is probably not in your sources.list)
[09:15] <zorgluuu> heinkel_111: nx is use for that
[09:15] <zorgluuu> scroll_lock: no i dont code on kde
[09:15] <SpAwN> here is the pastebin...notice the time be i restart almost 4 hours http://pastebin.ulteo.us/76
[09:15] <scroll_lock> good
[09:15] <zorgluuu> heinkel_111: usefull
[09:15] <zorgluuu> scroll_lock: ???
[09:16] <heinkel_111> nx is the command so i can do man:nx search?
[09:16] <jvives> h3sp4wn: yep, got them restricted
[09:16] <heinkel_111> zorgluuu:
[09:16] <heinkel_111>  ^
[09:16] <zorgluuu> heinkel_111: it is a whole stuff i think there are tutorial about this
[09:16] <zorgluuu> !vnc
[09:16] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[09:16] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111:
[09:16] <zorgluuu> !freenx
[09:16] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[09:16] <heinkel_111> i have googled
[09:16] <zorgluuu> there :)
[09:17] <heinkel_111> not remote desktop... remote windows on my local desktop
[09:17] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: All you need to do is ForwardX11 yes in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[09:17] <SpAwN> eerr i take that back....almost 5 hours went by
[09:17] <larson9999> freenx is quite a bit faster
[09:17] <jvives> h3sp4wn: how can I check that?
[09:19] <h3sp4wn> jvives: grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep dapper-security
[09:19] <jvives> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[09:20] <jvives> I did a "manual" grep ;)
[09:20] <jvives> want me to run that command anyway?
[09:20] <h3sp4wn> jvives: no point
[09:22] <h3sp4wn> jvives: in lsmod is fglrx listed ?
[09:22] <jvives> yep, let me double check
[09:23] <jvives> fglrx                 391756  0
[09:23] <jvives> agpgart                36784  2 fglrx,ati_agp
[09:23] <heinkel_111> h3sp4wn: is the syntax for that /etc/ssh/ssh_config file standard, ie..comments all start with # sign?
[09:23] <heinkel_111> almost all the lines appears to be # commented out...
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: Yes (the comments are just telling you what the defaults are
[09:24] <evert> Hello all
[09:24] <heinkel_111> thanks h3sp4wn, you have been very helpful :)
[09:24] <h3sp4wn> jvives: dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx (it should be diverting loads of stuff)
[09:25] <HaTcH> Question (former Gentoo user, giving Kubuntu a try) Umm... when I try to boot up the Desktop CD (AMD64) I get a Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! error message
[09:25] <evert> I was wondering if somebody knows a thing i need to know. In a previous install i had to add a option in my xorg.conf file. It had something to do with agp , but i forgot it
[09:25] <evert> who knows the option ? Without it i wasn't able to load x any more
[09:25] <HaTcH> apggart?
[09:25] <evert> no , another one
[09:25] <HaTcH> agpgart
[09:25] <JohnFlux> agpgart
[09:25] <evert> no i was tought it was 'noagp 0' or something like that
[09:25] <evert> but i don't know it any more :(
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> evert, you might want to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:26] <evert> That didn't work in my previous install , it only worked with that specific option included
[09:26] <Chapay> Hello form russia!!!
[09:26] <Chapay> where i can get adept sources ???
[09:27] <h3sp4wn> evert: Well we are both in the same boat then (my video card has been trashed so whenever I load a graphical application it hardlocks) - I am also without X but it doesn't make that much difference
[09:27] <evert> It was just a simple option , i had written it on a small piece of paper , so i wouldn't forget it :P
[09:27] <evert> but now , when i'm going to install the nvidia drivers i forgot :(
[09:28] <jvives> h3sp4wn: hate flooding... http://www.copypot.com/592
[09:28] <dein> nvidia-xconfig?
[09:28] <dein> evert?
[09:29] <evert> No , i had to add it manually to my xorg.conf in the nvidia part
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> jvives: So at the moment do you or do you not have restricted-modules installed ?
[09:29] <Chapay> oh sorry i find him @ kde-apps.org
[09:29] <dismal_> I'm trying to mount a file.  It's an MDF and I've run mdf2iso and it says its already iso (though it doesnt create a new file or anything)  How do I mount this now?  I have mount-iso installed but there is no menu when i right click on the mdf
[09:29] <someusernoob> im running irssi in Konsole, and when coloured text is shwoing, it is blinking, this isnt happening under gnome with the gnome terminal, how do i turn it off?
[09:30] <h3sp4wn> jvives: If you don't have the restricted modules installed you can install the fglrx kernel source and build the module with sudo module-assistant prepare,update && sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx
[09:30] <Chapay> who use kde4 (3.80) ???
[09:30] <jvives> h3sp4wn: I 'think' i do have restricted modules... I'm new to kubuntu, but not to linux/debian
[09:31] <jvives> h3sp4wn: how do I check that... if i do or don't have em
[09:31] <heinkel_111> h3sp4wn: are you there? what else do i need to do to fet an application running on a remote machine to display in my desktop?
[09:31] <evert> Nobody who knows the option i need ? It had something to do with agp ...
[09:31] <heinkel_111> ie...
[09:31] <HaTcH> agpgart was the only thing I can think of
[09:32] <dein> agpgart?
[09:32] <evert> It was another one
[09:32] <HaTcH> for ATI cards atleast
[09:32] <HaTcH> its in the kernel
[09:32] <evert> And it's for a nvidia card
[09:32] <heinkel_111> kate randomtestfiletobedeleted.txt
[09:32] <heinkel_111> kate: cannot connect to X server
[09:32] <heinkel_111> ^ it goes like that....
[09:32] <evert> found it :)
[09:32] <evert> option nvAgp
[09:33] <jvives> heinkel_111: did u try doing ssh -X server?
[09:34] <heinkel_111> jvives, no but it should be enabled through the config file?
[09:34] <h3sp4wn> jvives: aptitude search restricted~i (compare that to uname -a)
[09:34] <heinkel_111> isn't that the same effect?
[09:34] <habeeb> Greetings, I have emacs, but I want it to have antialiasing and I want it also to print some lines with color like it did on GNOME (When I say "some lines", I mean the calling of functions, the print command ,etc"
[09:34] <Lars_G> say
[09:34] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: There has never been anything else to do except that for me
[09:35] <heinkel_111> hmm...
[09:35] <Lars_G> if you had scim, and your kde's launch command (alt-f2) suddenly stops responding to keyboard, but nothing else kde does, what you'd do?
[09:35] <h3sp4wn> jvives: What card are you using ? if its a laptop one I would use the newer drivers from ati.com
[09:36] <jvives> h3sp4wn: got them installed... I remove/install them. Found that in a howto regarding my problem
[09:36] <heinkel_111> ok, it worked if i used the ssh -X server trick from jvives
[09:36] <dismal_> Does anyone have any experience with mdf2iso and subsequently mounting a file with iso mount?
[09:36] <h3sp4wn> jvives: You want to remove fglrx ?
[09:36] <heinkel_111> but should not the changes to config file do that as default?
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> jvives: And use radeon ?
[09:37] <Lars_G> heinkel_111: you can also activate it via config
[09:37] <heinkel_111> Lars_G: do i need to restart something to make config change noticed?
[09:37] <Lars_G> heinkel_111: on the server side afaik you need to restart yes
[09:37] <Lars_G> on the client side, no
[09:37] <heinkel_111> hmmm
[09:38] <sc0tch> Does anybody have any recommendations on a "prefered/best" vnc server for a local lan connection.
[09:38] <r4wberry> hey ho
[09:38] <jvives> h3sp4wn: no... I have a ati mobility 9000
[09:38] <r4wberry> is this the official kubuntu chan?
[09:38] <jvives> and want to start using xgl
[09:38] <Lars_G> sc0tch: freenx
[09:39] <heinkel_111> Lars G: i have in my config file    ForwardX11 yes
[09:39] <Lars_G> r4wberry: No, it was named so to send people astray
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> jvives: You should be able to get accelerated 3d with radeon / mesa dri
[09:39] <heinkel_111> should not that be the same as ssh  -X server?
[09:39] <Lars_G> heinkel_111: In theory... which config file? the client?
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> jvives: You should remove fglrx (sudo aptitude purge fglrx~i)
[09:39] <jvives> h3sp4wn: radeon driver?
[09:40] <Lars_G> h3sp4wn: I tought radeon covered older cards only
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> mobility 9000 is r200 which is supported
[09:40] <root_> where do I go to edit my source tree files for my linux kernel
[09:40] <Lars_G> Ah yes.
[09:40] <habeeb> !emacs
[09:40] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[09:40] <Lars_G> root_: do not connect to irc as root
[09:40] <silverto> hehe
[09:40] <heinkel_111> Lars_G: the config file was changed on the remote machine, which i guess is the X-client? it is the program server, AFAIK....(little confused)
[09:40] <Lars_G> silverto: /usr/src/linux and read the linux kernel howto
[09:41] <silverto> ok
[09:41] <Lars_G> heinkel_111: ? easy, machine you connect from, ssh client, machine you connect to, ssh server, appart of what ports you forward
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> jvives: driver "radeon" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (but the 3d will not work until fglrx is removed those diverts we saw earlier would stop it)
[09:41] <Lars_G> for client, /etc/ssh/ssh_config for server /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> jvives: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (select radeon - after fglrx is gone)
[09:41] <Lars_G> don't confuse ssh_config for sshd_config
[09:42] <heinkel_111> Lars_G in that case, i changed the config on the ssh server
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> its enabled by default for sshd anyway (I thought)
[09:42] <Lars_G> heinkel_111: that will allow you to forward X but won't make it automatically forwarded, for that change client config in your client machien too
[09:43] <jvives> h3sp4wn: brb, have to reboot X
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> jvives: wait one second
[09:43] <Lars_G> heinkel_111: see the file and it should be evident, you can change it for all hosts or only for the one you're connecting as well
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> jvives: You may need to remove fglrx from /etc/modules
[09:43] <Lars_G> h3sp4wn: and rmmod it or reboot
[09:43] <evert> how can i check or the nvidia driver install went ok ?
[09:43] <heinkel_111> Lars_G ... thanks!
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> jvives: and just restarting X won't work because the fglrx kernel module does alot of bad things
[09:43] <jvives> h3sp4wn: not there
[09:43] <Lars_G> evert: when you start X does it shows the nvidia logo?
[09:44] <NDPTAL85> Here's a better pic of my new desk: http://x5.freeshare.us/view/?120fs110546.jpg
[09:44] <evert> Is there no other way ?
[09:44] <jvives> h3sp4wn: so, what should I do
[09:44] <evert> I installed it , but i didn't reboot i just restarted X
[09:44] <Lars_G> evert: Another way, open your Xorg session, start an xterm/konsole/wathever and run "glxinfo" look for a like with "direct rendering" it should say "yes"
[09:44] <h3sp4wn> jvives: have you uninstalled the fglrx drivers ?
[09:44] <evert> Ok , thx lars_G
[09:45] <evert> my nvidia drivers are ok :)
[09:45] <Lars_G> evert: restarted X as in "loged off, loged on" or as in "loged off, started x with ctrl-alt-backspace, logged on"???
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> jvives: and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:45] <evert> ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:45] <Lars_G> good :)
[09:45] <evert> it says that direct rendering 'yes'
[09:45] <heinkel_111> WOOOOHAA---this is so cool, no problem with the crashed gfx card on my old comp :P
[09:45] <evert> :)
[09:45] <evert> I still have a very little problem :D
[09:45] <jvives> h3sp4wn: the auto-config give me the 'ati' driver as default... shod I use radean anyway?
[09:45] <evert> When i boot , the 'kopete' messenger starts with kde ... I wants that amsn starts in place of kopete
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> jvives: yes
[09:46] <r4wberry> are there other-language channels supporting kubuntu users?
[09:46] <r4wberry> are there other-language channels supporting kubuntu users?
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> Lars_G: r200 ati's are supported better than any other card
[09:46] <Lars_G> evert: if kde is autosaving session, just close kopete, open amsn, then close kde and restart it, it might work
[09:46] <Lars_G> h3sp4wn: It could be, but one of my biggest headaches on Ivy (first laptop) was trying to get decent work from the Mobility 7500
[09:47] <evert> i just did it with the ctrl alt backspace , i don"'t know he 'saved' my settings then :D
[09:47] <Lars_G> evert: Nyet, ctrl-alt-backspace is like a "kill -9" it stabs kde on the back and won't let it save sessions
[09:47] <h3sp4wn> Lars_G: My nvidia is dead at the moment and I am going to get an ati 9250 (no more tainted kernel for me)
[09:47] <jvives> but lsmod | grep radeon give me nothing...
[09:47] <evert> i'll log out then :)
[09:47] <evert> hopefullly he auto saves
[09:47] <evert> brb
[09:47] <Lars_G> evert: Now kde is stabbed in the back, and you'll have to nurse it for a while for it to trust you again
[09:47] <jvives> h3sp4wn: and radeon wasn't listed in the config menu
[09:48] <evert> lol
[09:48] <evert> brb
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> jvives: add 'radeon' to the bottom of /etc/modules
[09:48] <Lars_G> h3sp4wn: I'm thinking changing to intel chipsets, they've released the 945 open source
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> Lars_G: I don't like onboard video
[09:48] <jvives> h3sp4wn: i try to modprobe it and got a error back
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> jvives: Its because of fglrx
[09:48] <silverto> I just installed nvidia-xconfig from adept manager, now where do I go to use that program?
[09:49] <Lars_G> h3sp4wn: I don't like giving money to ati only because nvidia drivers are closed
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> jvives: Until you do a hard reboot it won't work
[09:49] <jvives> h3sp4wn: brb then
[09:49] <evert> hmm there didn't start a messenger program , not kopete , not amsn
[09:50] <Lars_G> evert: It might be non kde progies are not automatically added to the session, there's a way to edit the session to add programs to run at start but I forgot how. also there are dirs (~/.kde/something..) you can make a link to have it autostart on login as well
[09:50] <Lars_G> sorry I can't be more specific
[09:50] <evert> Ok
[09:50] <evert> i'll search it out
[09:51] <silverto> In my display system settings> Hardware profile it says my graphics card is nv. Does that mean it has nvidia driver installed?
[09:51] <evert> I still got another question , since kubuntu is now the only OS i'm having , i need to get it a bit 'nicer'. So is there a guide to get kubuntu a bit nicer ? (with xgl)
[09:52] <Lars_G> evert: Compiz you mean? in my experience it's not worth the hazzle and loss of speed
[09:52] <evert> not only compiz ... Also a just getting this install 'nice' ...
[09:52] <evert> like on lot's of screenshots :D
[09:53] <dismal_> Can anyone guide me through the install of CDemu/
[09:54] <jvives> h3sp4wn: I'm back... using radeon as x driver
[09:54] <h3sp4wn> jvives: glxinfo | grep direct ?
[09:55] <jvives> h3sp4wn: now, how can I chek the fps? answ: direct rendering: Yes
[09:56] <jvives> h3sp4wn: WOW glxgears run FAST!!!
[09:56] <h3sp4wn> jvives: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[09:56] <jvives> h3sp4wn: actually runs, :D
[09:56] <h3sp4wn> jvives: Any radeon 9250 or less is much better without fglrx
[09:57] <jvives> h3sp4wn: any benchmark already installed?
[09:57] <proog> does anyone know about an apple mighty mouse driver?
[09:58] <h3sp4wn> jvives: the command above will give you the fps (honestly) don't know about real benchmarks (but the direct rendering yes means it is working)
[09:59] <jvives> h3sp4wn: ~700 fps
[09:59] <Pointblank> hey all
[09:59] <jvives> h3sp4wn: is that enogh?
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> jvives: Does it look smooth ? The thing is the commercial drivers were written to make glxgears as fast as possible (better than there real performance)
[10:00] <Pointblank> how do i install flash, ive got firefox and wine install, i was led to belive that i need to install the windows firefox and then flash?
[10:00] <jvives> h3sp4wn: yeap... smoooooth
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> jvives: Try a 3d application you want to use and see whether it works well
[10:00] <proog> no...?
[10:00] <evert> how can i take a screenshot of my desktop ?
[10:00] <jvives> h3sp4wn: thx buddy, I've been fighting this shit for days :D
[10:01] <h3sp4wn> jvives: no probs
[10:01] <CVirus> evert: ksnapshot
[10:01] <Pointblank> evert: go to utilities and then take screenshot
[10:01] <evert> ok , thx , it isn't in the menu but i'll ad it
[10:02] <dismal_> Can someone explain to me what this means?:
[10:02] <dismal_> you need the source of your current running kernel.
[10:02] <dismal_> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include needs to point at it. if you're not
[10:02] <dismal_> sure if it points to the righ kernel just type: ls -la /lib/modules/`uname
[10:02] <dismal_> -r`/build if its the correct kernel source all is ok. ;-)
[10:02] <Pointblank> can anyone tell me how to install flash
[10:03] <evert> Ksnapshot is installed
[10:03] <evert> but i can't find it in the kde menu :/
[10:04] <warpzone> hey, I'm knit-picking here but
[10:04] <warpzone> some of my applications (azureus, firefox) won't follow the set KDE theme
[10:05] <warpzone> is there a way to force it?
[10:08] <Xcalibur> omg, I luv Cross Over Office!!!
[10:08] <hollywoodstar> Anyone here know howto install kubuntu on a laptop ?
[10:08] <hollywoodstar> ibm x40 if it helps
[10:08] <Xcalibur> I am on it?
[10:08] <Xcalibur> lol
[10:09] <Xcalibur> what you need help with?
[10:09] <hollywoodstar> how to install
[10:09] <hollywoodstar> network ?
[10:09] <Xcalibur> wireless card?
[10:09] <hollywoodstar> yes
[10:09] <Xcalibur> linksys?
[10:09] <hollywoodstar> no
[10:09] <Xcalibur> well, it keeps disabling you wireless connection?
[10:09] <hollywoodstar> ehm
[10:09] <Xcalibur> what?
[10:09] <hollywoodstar> not install network card
[10:10] <hollywoodstar> install the OS
[10:10] <hollywoodstar> :D
[10:10] <hollywoodstar> haha
[10:10] <Xcalibur> ok
[10:10] <Xcalibur> click the install icon on the desktop
[10:10] <Xcalibur> once
[10:10] <hollywoodstar> ehm
[10:10] <hollywoodstar> I have win xp atm
[10:10] <Xcalibur> ok
[10:10] <hollywoodstar> I want to have a dualboot with kub
[10:10] <Xcalibur> ok
[10:10] <hollywoodstar> but in what way do I install it ?
[10:10] <Xcalibur> then let me know when you get to the partition section
[10:11] <Xcalibur> i can show yo
[10:11] <Xcalibur> you*
[10:11] <hollywoodstar> but I don't know how to begin an installation
[10:11] <hollywoodstar> should I do something over the network ?
[10:11] <Xcalibur> did you click the install icon once?
[10:11] <Arepie> !bobot++
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bobot++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <Xcalibur> on the desltop
[10:12] <Xcalibur> 1crossover
[10:12] <Xcalibur> !crossover
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <Xcalibur> did you click it?
[10:12] <hollywoodstar> click what ?
[10:12] <Xcalibur> the install icon
[10:12] <Xcalibur> wait
[10:12] <Xcalibur> are you booted on the LiveCD?
[10:12] <hollywoodstar> no
[10:12] <hollywoodstar> I have no cd drive
[10:12] <Xcalibur> did you burn it yet?
[10:13] <Xcalibur> ok
[10:13] <Xcalibur> well, I'm not sure if there is another way to boot it without a CD drive?
[10:13] <Xcalibur> how old is the laptop?
[10:13] <hollywoodstar> a year or 2
[10:13] <SonicChao> How do I change kubuntu's login window?
[10:13] <Xcalibur> and it came with no CD reader?
[10:13] <etam> is it any possibility to run a program, logout, (the program still works), login, bring program to the front in linux console?
[10:13] <SonicChao> And it's blue background behind that login window?
[10:13] <Arepie> is there any irc bot which can manage game ?
[10:13] <etam> pleeease help!
[10:14] <hollywoodstar> Xcalibur yes it's a tiny one
[10:14] <silverto> Is there a way to test and see if I can use opengl 3d applications?
[10:14] <Xcalibur> so, it's a notebook, not a laptop?
[10:14] <hollywoodstar> notebook laptop ? isn't that the same
[10:14] <hollywoodstar> anyways
[10:14] <Xcalibur> notebook=smaller, sometimes with no CD drive
[10:14] <holycow> has anyone upgraded from ubuntu to kubuntu-desktop or the full blown version?
[10:14] <holycow> I'm having problems w/ apt-get and dependencies
[10:14] <hollywoodstar> I had in my mind somewhere that you could install over network somehow
[10:15] <etam> is it any possibility to run a program, logout, (the program still works), login, bring program to the front in linux console? can screen help me?
[10:15] <Dannilion> I thought a notebook was white, with a spiral top? Sometimes there are lines on it...
[10:15] <hollywoodstar> heh
[10:15] <Dannilion> :P
[10:15] <Xcalibur> well, I guess it could be possible, but with hard work, DOS commands, and a FTP prg
[10:15] <hollywoodstar> hm
[10:15] <Xcalibur> but I'm not sure how I would go about doing that
[10:16] <hollywoodstar> ok thx anyways
[10:16] <hollywoodstar> !installation
[10:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:16] <hollywoodstar> found that
[10:17] <Xcalibur> um...you should ask some of the more experienced ppl in this channel, I have only had linux for like, and week 1/2
[10:17] <Xcalibur> good
[10:17] <Xcalibur> I g2g
[10:20] <zorgluuu> my kubuntu install freeze at 'configuring X'. nothing happen. no cd or disk activity. numlock still respond. any suggestion ?
[10:23] <Pointblank> hey all, how do i add a printer
[10:24] <Pointblank> am connected to printer through networkj
[10:24] <draik> Pointblank, Go to your K Menu > System Setting > Printers
[10:24] <draik> once you install your printer, I can help you setting up the printer for networking
[10:24] <dismal_> err, what is the command to delete a directory?
[10:24] <jay_> rm -r
[10:24] <dismal_> thx
[10:25] <Pointblank> there is no printer option anywhere in system or settings
[10:25] <draik> Pointblank, are you using Kubuntu?
[10:25] <Pointblank> yep
[10:25] <draik> ok
[10:25] <draik> go to your K Menu
[10:25] <Pointblank> yep
[10:26] <draik> then you have System Settings... it on the list
[10:26] <draik> above your Run Command
[10:26] <Pointblank> ah yea
[10:26] <draik> ok
[10:26] <draik> go there
[10:26] <draik> then click on Printers
[10:26] <Pointblank> i thought you meant under settings or system submenu things
[10:26] <draik> nope
[10:26] <Pointblank> yeah im at that now
[10:26] <draik> sorry if I wasn't clear
[10:26] <Pointblank> ah i see it now
[10:26] <Pointblank> add printer
[10:26] <draik> yup
[10:26] <root_> ww00t i got my video card installed
[10:27] <draik> find your manufacturer and then the model
[10:27] <draik> congrats silverto
[10:27] <Pointblank> damnit i dont know its network adress
[10:27] <Pointblank> or port
[10:28] <draik> Pointblank, install the printer from the local first, then the network
[10:28] <Pointblank> ah k
[10:28] <Pointblank> the printer inst joined by local though, do i just fdo that anyway?
[10:28] <draik> no
[10:28] <Pointblank> or do i actually plug in my printer to this comp
[10:29] <draik> did you already install it locally on the other desktop?
[10:29] <silverto> How do I config Konversation to not log me in as root
[10:29] <silverto> hah
[10:29] <Pointblank> yes the other desktop is windows though
[10:29] <Pointblank> and i have windows ont this comp aswell
[10:29] <Pointblank> and printer works for both
[10:29] <draik> silverto, press F2 and then go though the Edit and configure your nicklist
[10:29] <draik> Pointblank, is the printer on this computer or the other?
[10:30] <Pointblank> other
[10:30] <rioux602> hello
[10:30] <draik> is it already installed with the drivers on the other computer?
[10:30] <Pointblank> yep
[10:30] <draik> ok
[10:30] <draik> then we can continue
[10:30] <draik> just wanted to make sure we got that out of the way
[10:30] <silverto> ty
[10:30] <Pointblank> kk
[10:30] <draik> now, is the other computer kubuntu or windows?
[10:30] <Pointblank> windows
[10:30] <draik> ok
[10:30] <draik> no kubuntu on it?
[10:30] <Pointblank> nope
[10:31] <draik> ok
[10:31] <Pointblank> its my parents computer, so i will not be allowed to sinatll kubuntu on it
[10:31] <Pointblank> install*
[10:31] <draik> no prob
[10:31] <draik> here we go
[10:31] <draik> is the other computer on?
[10:31] <Pointblank> yea
[10:31] <draik> ok
[10:32] <draik> get the computer's info... IP address, etc
[10:32] <draik> your parent's computer
[10:32] <Pointblank> just IP?
[10:33] <draik> IP and location
[10:33] <Nookie^> hi! who is incharge of kubuntu artwork?
[10:33] <Pointblank> ok, IP of computer or IP of router? or are they the same
[10:34] <silverto> I don't know who is in charge of kubuntu artwork but its pretty cool
[10:34] <jvives> h3sp4wn: can help me again? can't start xgl...
[10:34] <jvives> h3sp4wn: I get a "no screen found" error
[10:35] <Nookie^> Riddell: who is in charge of kubuntu artwork?
[10:36] <rioux602> Is there anybody to help me ? I want to configure a network
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> jvives: I have no idea about xgl (but if you were to run edgy with xorg 7.1 - then you would get aiglx which will allow you to run compiz) or you could use aiglx for xorg 7 (I have no idea of how to do any of these things though)
[10:36] <jvives> hey everybody... can anyone help me with my "no screen error" while trying to start xgl from kde
[10:37] <jvives> h3sp4wn: thx anyway!
[10:37] <fdoving> Nookie^: kenneth wimer.
[10:37] <zorgluuu> the purple guy :)
[10:38] <goldenzim> so far as I know.... kde don't work using xgl... I battled with it for a few days - no joy
[10:38] <zorgluuu> some people run kde on xgl
[10:38] <nnn0> i've done that under suse
[10:38] <goldenzim> if anyone knows different... I'd love to hear it
[10:38] <Pointblank> hmmm
[10:38] <nnn0> but i soon removed it :)
[10:38] <zorgluuu> i tried without success tho :)
[10:39] <Nookie^> fdoving: thanx
[10:39] <rioux602> someone good to explain me how to have access to my other comp on the network ?
[10:39] <Pointblank> installing this printer is proving tricky
[10:40] <goldenzim> what's your network look like?
[10:40] <Alastor> Bonjour la dedans :)
[10:40] <rioux602> salut ;)
[10:40] <draik> sorry, Pointblank, got a call
[10:40] <Pointblank> no worries
[10:40] <Alastor> Ham plant, c'est pas le fr ici ^^
[10:40] <Pointblank> i got further by going through SMB
[10:40] <draik> gimme a sec... gonna scroll up to see where I left off
[10:41] <Pointblank> if i go to add printer and go through SMB Shared printer, it picks up my network but doesnt pick up printer
[10:41] <draik> weird
[10:41] <draik> ok
[10:41] <draik> so IP address of computer is not the same as your router
[10:41] <goldenzim> your printer is shared on your windows box?
[10:41] <draik> router will end in x.x.x.1
[10:42] <Pointblank> yea
[10:42] <Pointblank> i know my router IP
[10:42] <rioux602> Anybody knows the game "dofus" and how to install it ?
[10:42] <manu__> bonsoir tout le monde
[10:42] <goldenzim> in a console type this ... smbclient -L //yourprintserverip
[10:42] <rioux602> salut
[10:43] <Alastor> Some can help me to change the kubuntu's bootsplash ?
[10:43] <goldenzim> does your printer show up?
[10:43] <Pointblank> sec
[10:44] <silverto> is there a way to change the kubuntu clock to regular time from millitary time
[10:44] <Pointblank> printerserver ip is not my router ip, i dont have a printerserver?
[10:44] <goldenzim> print server = the PC your printer is plugged into
[10:44] <nnn0> regular time :)
[10:44] <goldenzim> you have one of those right?
[10:45] <Pointblank> wait
[10:45] <Pointblank> it came up with some stuff but i dont see my printer in there
[10:45] <pierreth> Does any one knows how to activate an application using a script?
[10:45] <goldenzim> and that PC with the printer is running win right?
[10:45] <Pointblank> yep
[10:46] <goldenzim> me thinks your windows share is the problem
[10:46] <nnn0> Alastor: this is for ubuntu, don't know if kubuntu is different though https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:46] <dismal_> Pointblank:  I think you can change the way it displays by going into the clock settings and making it hh:mm:ss instead of HH:MM:SS  (I stress I think, because 24 hour time runs shit ;) )
[10:48] <nnn0> most people use "military time" - am/pm is gay :D
[10:48] <shadowr3d> Hello everyone
[10:48] <Pointblank> dismal: wasnt me who asked about time :P
[10:48] <goldenzim> yeah.... if you don't know if it's morning or evening you have bigger problems :P
[10:48] <nnn0> exactly :D
[10:49] <dismal_> Pointblank: my bad - lack of sleep does things to me
[10:49] <shadowr3d> i know how to change the boot splash
[10:49] <Pointblank> no worries
[10:49] <elknof1> hi everybody
[10:49] <elknof1> hey does anyone can help me turning on the dma of the dvd??
[10:50] <elknof1> running on dapper
[10:50] <zorgluuu> out of the blue, you may look at hdparam
[10:50] <zorgluuu> hdparm i mean
[10:51] <zorgluuu> google say it is a good idea :)
[10:51] <Pointblank> il sleep on this printer thing and try again tommorow
[10:51] <elknof1> haha thanks
[10:51] <jvives> anyone that can help me with my "no screens found" problem while trying to start xgl
[10:51] <elknof1> let me take a look
[10:51] <fdoving> jvives: #ubuntu-xgl can be helpful.
[10:52] <jvives> fdoving: no one "listening" there
[10:52] <fdoving> ok, i'm not a xgl-head.
[10:52] <zorgluuu> kubuntu cd is always live now :) impressive :)
[10:53] <steveire> Is it possible to create users without passwords?
[10:53] <steveire> Ie, the user doesn't have to enter a password to log in.
[10:53] <goldenzim> you mean at the login screen?
[10:53] <fdoving> steveire: yes, you can specify that in the login manager configuration.
[10:54] <k_user> hello
[10:54] <steveire> cool. Is there a way to make all users on the computer appear as a choice in the login screen?
[10:54] <fdoving> steveire: system settings -> advanced -> login manager
[10:54] <k_user> i've got a problem
[10:54] <fdoving> or something like that.
[10:54] <Xcalibur> did hollywood figure out how to install without the Cd?
[10:54] <Xcalibur> !installation
[10:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:56] <k_user> I installed an new version ov libc6, but it had dependences.. too many. so i gave up, but now the new libc is in "hold" state and i cant simply unninstall it to put the new. I tried apt-get -f install and other thing
[10:56] <k_user> what do i do?
[10:58] <fdoving> k_user: you can't uninstall libc6, you must re-install the older version.
[10:59] <k_user> fdoving: i tryied, but it says that the libc6(new version) is in Hold, then i can't install the old back.
[11:00] <k_user> its like if its waiting me to provide the dependencies to install the new one
[11:00] <k_user> but i wanna go back
[11:02] <angelaki> how i can open a port in linux??
[11:04] <pierreth> is possible to reduce all the other windows in one command?
[11:04] <k_user> Correcting dependencies: failure > libc6: depends: tzdata but is not installable
[11:04] <goldenzim> sudo apt-get remove libc6...
[11:06] <angel12> hey im having problems with my wireless in dapper
[11:06] <angel12> i cant get an ip from my router
[11:06] <goldenzim> what type of wireless you got?
[11:06] <angel12> atmel
[11:07] <goldenzim> is that one of those windows wireless cards?
[11:07] <k_user> E: dependence unmatched try apt-get - f install (or specify a solution)
[11:07] <angel12> goldenzim, what do you mean?
[11:08] <goldenzim> I had trouble with my wireless card cos the linux driver was no good... I had to install ndiswrapper to get it to work... like so : ndiswrapper -i /path/to/win.inf file
[11:08] <utta> angel12: ifconfig shows what
[11:09] <k_user> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver:: Resolve generate failure. It can be caused by Hold packages
[11:10] <angel12> everything that it should except an ip. i just found a bug report on my spec. tablet though. so i need to use breezy for wireless to work
[11:11] <utta> angel12: I mean wlan? eth?
[11:11] <angel12> eth1
[11:11] <goldenzim> a good app to help with  wireless though is knetworkmanager
[11:11] <utta> angel12: iwconfig eth1
[11:12] <angel12> utta, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/atmel-firmware/+bug/30866, thats the bug report
[11:12] <angel12> utta, cause everything is set up right, it just hangs at dhcp
[11:13] <shadowr3d> hello
[11:13] <shadowr3d> who is in charge of this room?
[11:14] <utta> angel12: hmm, that is probably the bug then. Did you blacklist the module before installing ndiswrapper?
[11:14] <angel12> utta, i havent tried ndiswrapper yet, cause i was scared of breaking something. how would i blacklist the module?
[11:15] <ged> is there a way to rebuild just one kernel module of the running kernel?
[11:15] <goldenzim> add the wireless module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:15] <utta> angel12: ndiswrapper woeks well. Best is to find one of the howto's to follow
[11:16] <goldenzim> then try installing the win driver using ndiswrapper
[11:16] <angel12> goldenzim, alright, thanks
[11:16] <utta> angel12: /woeks/works/
[11:16] <silverto> Can someone help me I installed the quake2-data package using adept manager and I can't get it to work?
[11:16] <goldenzim> you'll prolly need to reboot before anything happens
[11:16] <mowgli> hi, all! new Linux user here! I've installed Kubuntu desktop on a 386 PC and am trying to share my ADSL connection (eagle usb) with a Win98 laptop with crossed Ethernet cable. The laptop is set as default to connect with WinXp (automatic IP address). I've installed Samba and DHCP server, but DHCP server cannot start on boot (don't know why...). how can I fix this?
[11:17] <zorgluuu> once i am in the desktop of the livecd, i often got frozen
[11:17] <zorgluuu> aka the mouse stop to move
[11:18] <goldenzim> Linux is da poo!
[11:18] <angel12> zorgluuu, how much ram do you have?
[11:18] <zorgluuu> 512mbyte
[11:19] <zorgluuu> how does this relate to my issue ?
[11:19] <goldenzim> 512 Megs... in a 386?????
[11:19] <goldenzim> wrong dude.... my bad  :P
[11:19] <zorgluuu> :)
[11:20] <goldenzim> try this zor
[11:20] <zorgluuu> mine is a laptop p4m
[11:20] <zorgluuu> and it was running kubuntu yesterday :)
[11:20] <goldenzim> pop open a console ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:20] <goldenzim> folow the menu... then restart X
[11:20] <zorgluuu> ok i tried that before reinstalling :)
[11:21] <zorgluuu> oki list you all the bugs of the script :)
[11:21] <zorgluuu> it doesnt support ctrl-c
[11:21] <ubuntu__> i can't get the screen refresh rate right on the ubuntu live cd
[11:21] <zorgluuu> (nor esc)
[11:21] <zorgluuu> there are no way to exit or go back in the options
[11:21] <zorgluuu> if you dare to close the window, it leave pending lock :)
[11:21] <angel12> zorgluuu, try using the alternate install cd
[11:21] <zorgluuu> so i really dont trust such script :)
[11:22] <zorgluuu> angel12: what is the difference vs the 'main' cd ?
[11:22] <angel12> zorgluuu, it doesnt use the GUI to install, its like how the install was pre-dapper
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> zorgluuu, you can just run it again after you end it
[11:22] <goldenzim> I am not a fan of that live cd... I always use the alternate myself. It's faster that way too
[11:23] <zorgluuu> it is like a text install
[11:23] <zorgluuu> well why not, anyway the main cd doesnt run on my box
[11:23] <goldenzim> yes... it's very simpole though... even if it is text based
[11:24] <zorgluuu> download time :)
[11:25] <zorgluuu> http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.06/ explains what is the 'alternate cd'
[11:25] <zorgluuu> you sure i enter in this case ? :)
[11:25] <goldenzim> nothing to loce bro
[11:25] <goldenzim> lose... grrr
[11:26] <zorgluuu> not false :)
[11:26] <zorgluuu> hmm 1h of download
[11:26] <zorgluuu> 13min from a local archive :)
[11:27] <goldenzim> nice speed you got there
[11:27] <goldenzim> better than mine :(
[11:27] <zorgluuu> yep, isp are competing against each other in france, so good prize and good perf
[11:28] <k_user> HELP!
[11:28] <zorgluuu> mobile phone provide does not compete with each other, so poor perf and poor prize :)
[11:28] <goldenzim> WHAT?
[11:28] <mohamed> i need help !!
[11:28] <goldenzim> speak up then :)
[11:28] <shadowr3d> no shouting it is rude
[11:29] <k_user> i did  sudo dpkg --force-depends -r libc6
[11:29] <goldenzim> and????
[11:29] <k_user> i cand even do an 'ls'
[11:29] <goldenzim> it blew up?
[11:29] <mohamed> i have problems with my sound card  the quality is not like in windose
[11:30] <k_user> what do i do now????
[11:30] <zorgluuu> k_user: next time you will know that updating the libc is one of the most dangerous thing :)
[11:30] <zorgluuu> if you are an expert, you launch a live cd and put it back to the previous state
[11:30] <zorgluuu> if you are a beginer, you reinstall :)
[11:31] <Arepie> hello, i just install powertweak, how can i run the program ?
[11:31] <k_user> isnt there any way to fix it??
[11:31] <goldenzim> dude.... you just told apt to break itself... best you do a reinstall
[11:31] <zorgluuu> k_user: first, beginer should not use --force :)
[11:32] <zorgluuu> and to use --force on libc you need like 10 year of linux install :)
[11:32] <zorgluuu> in short you did a mistake
[11:32] <zorgluuu> and now you should reinstall
[11:33] <zorgluuu> 6min10sec
[11:33] <k_user> its not helping
[11:34] <zorgluuu> hehe you wait for us to provide you a simply cut/paste fix, i guess
[11:34] <goldenzim> back in a mo
[11:34] <goldenzim> reinstall k man
[11:34] <zorgluuu> well if i had it, i would give it to you
[11:35] <zorgluuu> the truth is that a big package guys will spend like 20min to fix your issue in front of your box
[11:35] <zorgluuu> 4min...
[11:35] <k_user> i have the .deb here all i need is to install it.
[11:35] <zorgluuu> hehe ok :)
[11:36] <zorgluuu> or if you dont want to reinstall now, you could complain about it for a while and then reinstall :)
[11:36] <zorgluuu> 2min30sec
[11:38] <Lunar_Raven> !aiglx
[11:38] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[11:40] <fdoving> gnite ppl.
[11:43] <jt__> hello
[11:44] <jt__> can anyone think why my adept wont let me manage repositories?
[11:44] <jt__> the menu item is just disabled
[11:48] <lupine_85> are you running it as root/sudo ?
[11:48] <jt__> yeah
[11:48] <jt__> there's no difference is there?
[11:48] <lupine_85> dunno then. Maybe /etc/apt/sources.list isn't sane
[11:48] <lupine_85> I was thinking permissions problem, but unlikely if you're root :)
[11:49] <jt__> mmm
[11:49] <jt__> sources.list seems to be normal
[11:50] <jt__> could it be anything to do with setting a root passwd?
[11:50] <lupine_85> no, wouldn't be that
[11:50] <jt__> or maybe because im running edgy eft?
[11:50] <lupine_85> I've got one, and it works here
[11:51] <lupine_85> erm, yes. probably edgy
[11:51] <jt__> :(
[11:51] <lupine_85> try #ubuntu+1
[11:51] <lupine_85> probably they're working on that aspect of the software at the moment and dont' want it breaking anyone's install
[11:51] <jt__> thanks lupine_85
[11:52] <lupine_85> np :)
[11:53] <zorgluuu> arf i got the explaination of the issue in my kubuntu install, the cd seems corrupted :)
[11:54] <zorgluuu> '2 checksum failed' :)
[11:58] <Larynx> ok
[11:58] <zorgluuu> mouaoua i really bad tonite :)
[11:58] <zorgluuu> i was afraid my .iso was not the same hash as the theorical ones
[11:59] <zorgluuu> but i computed sha1 and the theorical are in md5 :)
[12:00] <Larynx> me need a good musicplayer
[12:01] <zorgluuu> !amarok
[12:01] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[12:01] <zorgluuu> this is the popular one
[12:01] <Larynx> i was thinkin like.. xmms
[12:01] <zorgluuu> so install xmms :)
[12:01] <divansantana> y not amarok it rocks
[12:01] <divansantana> isnt there xmms2  out?
[12:01] <lupine_85> amarok is good, but resource-hungry
[12:01] <lupine_85> xmms runs on a shoestring
[12:02] <Larynx> how do i get it?
[12:02] <divansantana> search im not too sur
[12:03] <Larynx> how do you do that?
[12:03] <nnn0> !xmms
[12:04] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:04] <nnn0> k
[12:04] <Larynx> o.O
[12:05] <nagyv> how can I browse the neighbouring machines? I would like to connect to a windows shared drive, but don't know how.
[12:06] <nnn0> !samba
[12:06] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:06] <tj> !w32codecs
[12:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:09] <zorgluuu> on the install cd, what is filesystem.squashfs ?