[12:51] <Plug> Burgundavia: a knot release note question
[12:52] <Plug> "Top Men have been working on Compiz"
[12:52] <Plug> why capitalised?
[12:53] <crimsun> To which noun are you referring?
[12:53] <Plug> Men.
[12:53] <Plug> It might not be a bug, if Top Men is a group name, or something.
[12:54] <Plug> I ask because I believe a lot of compiz work is done by a woman.
[12:54] <crimsun> I don't know what semantic importance is attributed to it; it could very well simply be a mis-capitalisation.
[12:55] <crimsun> I doubt it's meant to exclude work by anyone
[02:06] <nixternal> in KDE Help Center, there is a "KDE on the Web"...I will be creating a version "Kubuntu on the Web", however I was thinking of just adding it to the "About Kubuntu" documentation
[02:08] <nixternal> heh, another thing i just noticed... the About Kubuntu documentation is way different then the "About Kubuntu" information in the Desktop Guide as well...maybe these should ==
[02:08] <nixternal> robotgeek: ping?
[02:47] <Madpilot> so, are mdke & I still the only people with deletion/rename privs on huc/c?
[07:52] <Burgundavia> Plug: Top Men is a joke
[07:52] <Burgundavia> crimsun: ^
[07:52] <nixternal> it was nice and quiet
[07:52] <Burgundavia> it was
[07:52] <nixternal> man..i just did 3 homework assignments
[07:52] <nixternal> i can't believe i stuck with it
[07:52] <crimsun> Burgundavia: 10-4.
[07:53] <Burgundavia> for the record, I didn't even now Quinn was a woman and it certainly was not an attempt to exclude her
[08:02] <Burgundavia> mdke: help.ubuntu.com is down
[09:52] <Plug> Burgundavia: fair enough
[09:52] <Plug> wasn't sure from context, was all :)
[09:53] <Burgundavia> no worries
[10:02] <ompaul> anyone got a big stick that can restart services the box is up but the wiki is missing :(
[10:03] <ompaul> Burgundavia, and why is it always on a Sunday morning ? :-
[10:03] <ompaul> :-
[10:03] <ompaul> arrrr
[10:03] <ompaul> :-
[10:03] <Burgundavia> ompaul: no idea, but I can start a gobby session on this machine for people to edit
[10:04] <ompaul> should we look for wiki2. and help2 for such instances?
[10:04] <Burgundavia> canonical just needs to solve the issue
[10:04] <Burgundavia> I understand they are looking to purchase some new equipment
[10:05] <ompaul> ahh, new bigger faster servers with go faster stripes down the side
[10:07] <Burgundavia> do you have gobby installed
[10:07] <Burgundavia> ?
[10:07] <Burgundavia>  	 24.69.71.211
[10:07] <Burgundavia> port 6522
[10:08] <ompaul> I don't but I can have
[10:08] <ompaul> nearly there
[10:12] <ompaul> Thats a cool program :)
[10:15] <Burgundavia> ompaul: what colour are you?
[10:15] <ompaul> some kind of brown/orange
[10:15] <ompaul> I have added nothing yet
[10:15] <Burgundavia> right, I see that
[10:15] <ompaul> looking at the UWN
[10:16] <ompaul> I have edgy accepted here 
[10:16] <ompaul> as a mailing list
[10:16] <ompaul> I am trying to figure the fastest way to get data out of it and over into the edgy section
[10:17] <Burgundavia> ok, sounds good
[10:17] <Burgundavia> try and avoid straight lists
[10:18] <ompaul> well I am looking at what you have there
[10:18] <ompaul> and trying to work out how you got it :)
[10:18] <Burgundavia> gmail, copy and paste
[10:18] <Burgundavia> then edit
[10:19] <Burgundavia> please save teh document every few minutes
[10:20] <ompaul> (A) don't do, (B) grep > foo (C)clean & paste :)
[10:20] <Burgundavia> that works
[10:20] <ompaul> okay back in 20 minutes with a bucket of entries I hope
[10:20] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[10:21] <Burgundavia> ompaul: suggestion: take that list, choose the end user apps and then talk about those
[10:21] <Burgundavia> 2 or 3 as paragraphs (or a logical group)
[10:21] <Burgundavia> then the rest as lists
[10:22] <ompaul> okay
[10:22] <Burgundavia> see what I have done with the previous UWNs
[10:22] <Burgundavia> tell me why I care about this new cool thing
[10:23] <ompaul> at a guess it is a neat way of being multiplayer irc in a notepad :)
[10:23] <ompaul> now back to work
[10:24] <Burgundavia> you can do the cleanup in another document if you want
[10:24] <Burgundavia> create another document within the session
[10:25] <ompaul> reviewing what you have done here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter is hard when its down :)
[10:25] <ompaul> back soon
[10:26] <Burgundavia> yep, tell me about it
[10:41] <ompaul> Burgundavia, what is the last time that you committed anything from edgy to that doc?
[10:41] <Burgundavia> what do you mean? I have done nothing on the UWN on the wiki and nothing on edgy in gobby
[10:42] <Burgundavia> gobby is realtime, so you can see what I edit
[10:42] <ompaul> sorry, my question was badly phrased
[10:42] <ompaul> in last weeks UWN what was the last package comitted
[10:43] <ompaul> was it around midday utc yesterday or was it later or Friday
[10:43] <Burgundavia> oh, anything committed as of midnight UTC on Saturday
[10:43] <ompaul> okay
[10:43] <ompaul> thanks
[10:43] <ompaul> you just cut down my 49 k file a lot :)
[10:43] <ompaul> thats lines of text
[10:44] <Burgundavia> yep
[10:49] <ompaul> my computer is being hijacked for a few minutes
[10:50] <ompaul> back in as soon as I can be
[10:50] <ompaul> I'll close that session
[10:51] <mdke> Burgundavia: I can't do anything about that, I don't have access to that server
[10:51] <Burgundavia> you cannot get to my IP?
[10:52] <Burgundavia> can you ping it?
[10:52] <mdke> help.ubuntu.com. Yes I can ping it
[10:53] <Burgundavia> mdke: oh, are we talking help.u.c or the gobby session?
[10:53] <mdke> Burgundavia: help.u.c, I was just responding to your highlight
[10:54] <Burgundavia> right
[10:54] <Burgundavia> right. I was referring to my IP, for the gobby session
[10:55] <mdke> I'll file a ticket
[10:55] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[10:55] <mdke> I think there are 4 sysadmins now, so I bet someone is scheduled in for Sunday
[11:00] <Burgundavia> ompaul: I am crashing now, as it is 2am here
[11:00] <Burgundavia> edit all you like, machine will be up
[11:00] <ompaul> okay
[11:07] <Burgundavia> ompaul: remember to save frequently
[02:11] <joachim-n> does Ubuntu replace the default gnome 'Add to panel' dialog?
[02:12] <dsas> joachim-n: I don't know what the stock gnome one looks like, but a new dialogue was implemented for a breezy SoC project, I don't know if it went upstream.
[02:13] <joachim-n> is it the flat alphabetical list?
[02:13] <joachim-n> I thought that was the old one, and the categories new, but I have it in a 2.15 build 
[02:13] <dsas> the ubuntu one is the one segmented into categories.
[02:13] <joachim-n> and the categories on my regular Dapper
[06:54] <bartkorn> hi
[06:55] <bartkorn> anyone from poland ?
[09:41] <Burgundavia> ompaul: ping
[09:41] <ompaul> Burgundavia, yeap
[09:41] <Burgundavia> ompaul: the edgy stuff you were working on got deleted somehow. Can you repaste it?
[09:41] <ompaul> I know I did it
[09:42] <ompaul> I said I would redo it in the morning :)
[09:42] <ompaul> regex is sort of my friend :)
[09:42] <Burgundavia> but I am kind of trying to release today
[09:42] <ompaul> ohh fizzlesticks
[09:42] <Burgundavia> I will happily take your stuff and massage it
[09:42] <ompaul> that was from midnight 
[09:42] <ompaul> last night
[09:42] <Burgundavia> no worries
[09:43] <Burgundavia> don't worry, you will still get credit
[09:43] <ompaul> its okay 
[09:43] <ompaul> what dates did you want in there?
[09:43] <ompaul> and I can do something in the next hour or so 
[09:44] <Burgundavia> 27-2
[09:46] <ompaul> okay I am going to vist my local seller of fizzy diet drinks and then I will motor on this
[09:46] <ompaul> give me exactly one example of what you want done and I will save every 10 or so
[09:47] <ompaul> sorry about that, total misunderstanding after you said this morning after midnight UTC I took it as start last night
[09:47] <ompaul> :)
[09:48] <Burgundavia> right, no worries
[09:51] <Burgundavia> ompaul: do you know who did the upstart logo?
[09:51] <Burgundavia> was it you?
[09:55] <theCore> Burgundavia, yes me
[09:56] <theCore> Burgundavia, I did the logo
[09:56] <Burgundavia> theCore: thanks, name added
[09:56] <theCore> where?
[09:57] <Burgundavia> UWN 12
[09:58] <theCore> oh, I read it this morning
[09:58] <Burgundavia> umm, 12?
[09:58] <Burgundavia> you cannot have
[09:58] <Burgundavia> it has not yet been released
[09:59] <theCore> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/535
[10:00] <Burgundavia> that is different
[10:00] <Burgundavia> UWN is ubuntu weekly news
[10:00] <theCore> yeah, I just saw that
[10:00] <theCore> where is it?
[10:00] <theCore> the mailing list?
[10:00] <Burgundavia> not yet released, but currently being gobby-ed
[10:01] <theCore> no, the UWN
[10:01] <Burgundavia> port 6522 on 24.69.71.211
[10:01] <Burgundavia> UWN #12 is being worked on
[10:01] <Burgundavia> older versions can be read on ubuntu-news, the mailing list
[10:02] <theCore> first time, I heard about UWN ... 
[10:03] <theCore> how do I read it? with a news reader?
[10:05] <theCore> nevermind, I found the wiki page
[10:05] <Burgundavia> read via email
[10:07] <Burgundavia> they can also be read on the wiki
[10:07] <Burgundavia> and the wiki pages have not had love for a while
[10:08] <theCore> Burgundavia, the ip address is for gobby?
[10:08] <Burgundavia>  24.69.71.211
[10:09] <theCore> I never heard about either, but it looks cool
[10:09] <theCore> about gobby*
[10:09] <Burgundavia> gobby is used for editing it, not the release
[10:13] <theCore> Burgundavia, you mispelled my name
[10:13] <theCore> :)
[10:18] <ompaul> Burgundavia, what is the keyword for new ..  * New upstream version ?
[10:18] <Burgundavia> usually
[10:25] <ompaul> Burgundavia, do you want to impose a pattern on the first block of text I have put in there so I can mimic it for the rest going forward
[10:26] <Burgundavia> if you have no information on it, I would just create a list of apps that have had new versions
[10:26] <Burgundavia> for ones you do, create a paragraph like previous UWNs
[10:27] <ompaul> okay