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| {malice} | ? I have a Dell Latitude C540 and I need to upgrade the bios but I do not have floppy does anyone know how I can run the exe file in ubuntu? I installed wine and it does not work | 12:20 |
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| defendguin | ok im testing out knot 2 on my laptop how do i enable xgl? | 07:57 |
| defendguin | and why one earth is NetworkManager not installed by default | 07:57 |
| Burgundavia | defendguin: what kind of video card do you have? | 07:58 |
| Burgundavia | and NM is not installed by default because it breaks every other networking tool on the system, including dhclient, ifupdown and the network-admin tool from gnome-system-tools | 07:59 |
| defendguin | the default gnome tools dont have a sane interface for connecting to wireless networks | 07:59 |
| Burgundavia | no, they don't | 08:00 |
| defendguin | I have an intel video card | 08:01 |
| Burgundavia | then XGL will not work for you | 08:01 |
| defendguin | oh | 08:01 |
| Burgundavia | you need AIGLX | 08:01 |
| defendguin | why is that? | 08:01 |
| Burgundavia | which is already installed by default | 08:01 |
| Burgundavia | but what you really want is compiz, which actually does the nifty stuff (compiz is a window manager) | 08:01 |
| Burgundavia | compiz works on either | 08:01 |
| Burgundavia | it appears the help wiki is down, but try the forums | 08:02 |
| defendguin | why doesn't xgl work with my card? i figured since my card has open drives all of these things should be able to work for me | 08:04 |
| defendguin | i thought they might have some gui already set up to enable the eye candy | 08:05 |
| Burgundavia | xgl doesn't work with the open source drivers and AIGLX doesn't work with closed sourced ones | 08:06 |
| Burgundavia | and there is something, but you need to grab it yourself | 08:06 |
| Burgundavia | see gnomefiles | 08:06 |
| defendguin | i love the new firefox with the google suggestions | 08:08 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, not an FF users | 08:08 |
| defendguin | why not? | 08:09 |
| Burgundavia | I find FF's lack of integration into the GNOME desktop to be very annoying | 08:10 |
| Burgundavia | I very much like epiphany | 08:10 |
| defendguin | ahh | 08:10 |
| defendguin | but your missing out on the fire fox google sync extension | 08:11 |
| Burgundavia | sounds lovely | 08:11 |
| Burgundavia | rather not have google have more than they already have | 08:12 |
| defendguin | i guess i'm a trusting individual | 08:13 |
| defendguin | something is wrong with the gnome compiz manager download site :( | 08:15 |
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| defendguin | hmmm wireless in nm-applet isnt working properly | 08:24 |
| defendguin | it doesn't even give me a wireless option even though I can see that the light on my wireless card is blinking and the correct module is loaded | 08:27 |
| Burgundavia | welcome to why nm is not installed by default | 08:29 |
| defendguin | heh | 08:29 |
| defendguin | it works on dapper | 08:29 |
| crimsun | for values of "works" | 08:30 |
| defendguin | so far most things seem to work besides that | 08:31 |
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| Fujitsu | defendguin, did you attempt to configure your wireless interface using network-admin first? | 08:50 |
| defendguin | yes | 08:51 |
| defendguin | yesterday before i even had nm installed | 08:51 |
| defendguin | Fujitsu: wireless network is not even an option | 08:56 |
| Fujitsu | defendguin, yep. | 08:56 |
| Fujitsu | defendguin, open up /etc/network/interfaces, and remove the section about your wireless card. | 08:56 |
| defendguin | auto eth2 | 08:59 |
| defendguin | iface eth2 inet dhcp | 08:59 |
| defendguin | this? | 08:59 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah. | 09:00 |
| Fujitsu | If you remove that, NetworkManager should pick up the wireless, although it may like to be restarted. | 09:01 |
| defendguin | yup that did it | 09:02 |
| Fujitsu | NetworkManager won't play with interfaces that have manual configuration, for obvious reasons. | 09:02 |
| Burgundavia | yes, part of why NM is not installed by default | 09:04 |
| Burgundavia | NM is the way forward, it just needs more integration work | 09:05 |
| defendguin | ahh but if it was installed by default it would have worked properly | 09:05 |
| defendguin | since i wouldn't have tried to config it manually | 09:05 |
| Burgundavia | yes, until you tried to set a static IP | 09:06 |
| Burgundavia | and watched NM fail | 09:06 |
| defendguin | eh | 09:06 |
| Burgundavia | have both of you voted; http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-games/survey.html | 09:06 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 09:06 |
| defendguin | i really don't play the games much | 09:08 |
| defendguin | to play dvds with totem i just need the extra bad and ugly gstreamer plugins from multiverse? | 09:11 |
| Linuturk | speaking of network manager | 09:12 |
| Linuturk | I can't connect to a wireless network with a wep key | 09:12 |
| Linuturk | open networks work fine | 09:12 |
| Linuturk | but any with a wep key fail | 09:12 |
| Linuturk | specifically, 64-bit hex key | 09:12 |
| defendguin | Linuturk: ill try that now | 09:14 |
| Burgundavia | Linuturk: the place to fix that is upstream | 09:14 |
| Linuturk | upstream? | 09:14 |
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| defendguin_ | Linuturk: that seemed to work fine | 09:16 |
| Burgundavia | the NM devs themselves | 09:16 |
| Linuturk | i'm thinking it's a problem with the drivers dapper installed by default | 09:16 |
| Burgundavia | packages "flow downstream" | 09:17 |
| Fujitsu | What driver, Linuturk? | 09:17 |
| Burgundavia | developers --> pakcagers | 09:17 |
| Linuturk | for the intel 2200BG | 09:17 |
| Fujitsu | Or Developers -> Debian -> Ubuntu. | 09:17 |
| Fujitsu | Works fine for me. | 09:17 |
| Fujitsu | I'm using a WEP passphrase, actually... | 09:17 |
| Fujitsu | (also an ipw2200) | 09:18 |
| Linuturk | is it lsmod to list what modules are loaded/ | 09:18 |
| Linuturk | ? | 09:18 |
| Linuturk | also, there is an entry on ndiswrapper's site for it | 09:18 |
| Burgundavia | Fujitsu: for some stuff. nm used to be developers --> ubuntu but is now developers --> debian --> ubuntu | 09:18 |
| Fujitsu | True. | 09:19 |
| Linuturk | i thought NM came from novell? | 09:19 |
| Burgundavia | RH, actually | 09:21 |
| Burgundavia | but there is an Novell and an RH dev working on it | 09:21 |
| Burgundavia | netapplet was RH | 09:22 |
| Burgundavia | Novell, rather | 09:22 |
| Linuturk | anyway, I don't think it's a nm problem | 09:22 |
| Linuturk | how can I check the drivers loaded/ | 09:22 |
| Linuturk | ? | 09:22 |
| defendguin_ | crimsun i think sound works much better in edgy than dapper for this laptop | 09:31 |
| defendguin_ | in dapper when i put in a dvd the sound was so much lower than normal system sounds now it seems to work properly | 09:32 |
| defendguin_ | uggg let me retract that statement | 09:39 |
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| defendguin | compiz works better than i though | 07:21 |
| defendguin | thought* | 07:21 |
| Linuturk | I've really noticed a slowdown in my system | 07:30 |
| Linuturk | what could be causing this? | 07:30 |
| Linuturk | is there anything I should be cleaning up? | 07:30 |
| Linuturk | anything to defrag? | 07:31 |
| Linuturk | my system monitor use to never show page file usage or a load amount | 07:31 |
| Linuturk | by the way, knot 2 is out, so shouldn't the topic reflect that? | 07:33 |
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