[12:19] <tortoise_> anyone know why I can't get my password from revu?
[12:20] <crimsun> that's a feature.
[12:20] <tortoise_> marvellous
[12:21] <crimsun> one of the admins can help you.
[12:21] <crimsun> andrew, raphael, stefan, martin, etc.
[12:22] <tortoise_> any admins aboot?
[12:29] <bddebian> crimsun: YOu think the fix proposed in Bug #45722 is still valid?
[12:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 45722 in flashplugin-nonfree "flashplugin-nonfree doesn't uses the proxy debconf key" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/45722
[12:33] <crimsun> bddebian: yes.
[12:33] <crimsun> bddebian: hold off on uploading, though, I need to fix the initscript order
[12:33] <bddebian> OK, thx
[12:34] <phanatic> good evening
[12:35] <tortoise_> any revu admins about?
[12:39] <tortoise_> bddebian: Ive made the changes to python-virtkey that you requested.  I uploaded the new version though it hasn't shown on revu.
[12:40] <bddebian> OK
[12:41] <BHSPitMonkey> so... I come across a program that's not very major, and it's repository version is outdated... I want to help get a current version in the repo, so my destination is the REVU?
[12:42] <bddebian> Ideally, yes
[12:57] <crimsun> we totally need a "crack team"
[12:57] <bddebian> "crack team" ?
[12:57] <crimsun> members of MOTU that specialise in the latest crack not in Debian
[12:58] <crimsun> say, snort to pick a random example
[12:58] <bddebian> Ah
[12:58] <BHSPitMonkey> clever pun.
[12:59] <crimsun> completely unintentional, fortunately.
[01:01] <BHSPitMonkey> a crack team of developers... heh
[01:01] <Bazzi> well, eclipse 3.2 including the callisto-release-plugins would be very great to have in edgy, too :)
[01:02] <BHSPitMonkey> ha.
[01:02] <crimsun> after I process all of geser's outstanding debdiffs, I'll look at a snap of audacity 1.3.2
[01:02] <BHSPitMonkey> people need to understand the distinction between packages that should be included on a CD, and packages they'd prefer to have but can easily be retrieved from the repos
[01:03] <BHSPitMonkey> ooh, the new audacity looks sweeet.
[01:03] <BHSPitMonkey> it should come with edgy ;)
[01:03] <crimsun> YeaNO.
[01:05] <Bazzi> bddebian: what are you developing currently?
[01:05] <bddebian> Bazzi: I don't "develop" anything unfortunately
[01:05] <Bazzi> but?
[01:05] <bddebian> But what?
[01:06] <Bazzi> if you're on crack you must do something :-)
[01:06] <bddebian> Heh
[01:06] <bddebian> Speaking of which, time to get get dinner, bbiab
[01:29] <kagou> hi. i'v dput my updated version of a package to revu.tauware.de but i can't see it.
[01:29] <tortoise_> kagou: same prob here
[01:30] <kagou> it seems that i'v been too fast after subscribe to contributor team
[01:33] <kagou> i think that i'v uploaded before my pgp key was added to revu
[01:34] <Fujitsu> Yes, that happens.
[01:34] <kagou> Fujitsu: i was too excited ^^
[01:34] <Fujitsu> (it happened to me when I first joined the team, and again when I used a new key)
[01:35] <kagou> so Fujitsu how it was resolved ?
[01:35] <Fujitsu> Ask a REVU admin to purge the upload, and sync the keyring,.
[01:37] <kagou> thanks Fujitsu
[01:51] <welshbyte> howdy folks
[02:14] <bddebian> Heya welshbyte
[02:15] <welshbyte> hey bddebian. got any work^Wfun for me? :)
[02:15] <bddebian> welshbyte: You fixed maxima? ;-P
[02:16] <welshbyte> umm err, not exactly :(
[02:17] <bddebian> :-)
[02:17] <bddebian> welshbyte: Well find the azureus source then :-)
[02:18] <welshbyte> got it.. what flavour love does it need?
[02:20] <welshbyte> ooh java, this should be fun
[02:22] <bddebian> welshbyte: No, we need it from redhat according to doko_
[02:22] <bddebian> But when I pull from cvs.fedora.redhat.com I don't get the source just their patches
[02:22] <welshbyte> oh we need to sync from.... redhat?
[02:23] <bddebian> Oh, it won't be a sync :-)
[02:23] <bddebian> The Debian packages needs a non-free java compiler while redhat builds with gcj as I understand it
[02:23] <welshbyte> ah i see
[02:25] <bddebian> welshbyte: Wanna help with something totally off the wall?
[02:25] <welshbyte> bddebian: let's hear it first :)
[02:26] <bddebian> welshbyte: join #yammer
[02:28] <BHSPitMonkey> working on azureus?
[02:29] <bddebian> BHSPitMonkey: I wanted to but I don't see the source that doko talks about
[02:29] <phanatic> morning Hobbsee :)
[02:29] <bddebian> Heya phanatic, Hobbsee
[02:29] <phanatic> hey bddebian
[02:29] <BHSPitMonkey> hmm, that's too bad
[02:29] <Hobbsee> hey phanatic
[02:30] <Hobbsee> hey bddebian
[02:30] <BHSPitMonkey> the version out there really sucks
[02:41] <bddebian> rpm-get? ;-P
[02:46] <Fujitsu> Thankyou crimsun :)
[02:46] <tseng> bddebian: you're hilarious
[02:47] <tseng> you download the src.rpm from a mirror and rpm -i it
[02:47] <tseng> it ends up in /usr/src/rpm i think
[02:47] <tseng>  /usr/src/REDHAT, something like this
[02:48] <bddebian> tseng: OK smarty pants then how do I apply their patches from cvs or are they already in the src.rpm?
[03:01] <crimsun> Fujitsu: in the future please remember to note in which component the Debian source package originates
[03:01] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[03:01] <Fujitsu> For syncs?
[03:01] <Fujitsu> I just filed a new one, I'll fix that >_<
[03:01] <Fujitsu> Thanks :)
[03:01] <crimsun> yes, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-August/000182.html if you haven't already)
[03:02] <Fujitsu> Yes, I saw that a while ago, hence the semi-conformance to it. I forgot about the component bit.
[03:02] <Fujitsu> How do I discover which component it's in? packages.debian.org doesn't help.
[03:03] <crimsun> packages.qa.debian.org/srcpackage
[03:03] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[03:04] <crimsun> the easy way is to mouseover the dsc URL :)
[03:04] <Fujitsu> I can't find the component on that page either.
[03:05] <bddebian> welshbyte: Did ams scare you away?
[03:05] <crimsun> Fujitsu: mousover the dsc URL in the bottom left
[03:05] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[03:05] <Fujitsu> OK, thanks...
[03:05] <crimsun> np
[03:05] <Fujitsu> It'd be nice if there was a more obvious way..
[03:05] <welshbyte> bddebian: nah, just lost my concentration
[03:05] <bddebian> :-)
[03:06] <crimsun> Fujitsu: packages.do doesn't list the component unless it's not main
[03:07] <Fujitsu> Aha! A little silly...
[03:11] <bddebian> welshbyte: Hmm, maybe doko means use the upstream source but apply the redhat patches from their cvs?
[03:11] <welshbyte> bddebian: which version of azureus are we looking at anyway? the new (2.5?) version or one of the 2.4.x.. ?
[03:12] <bddebian> welshbyte: 2.5
[03:12] <welshbyte> right, so my looking at this fedora src.rpm is pointless anyway :)
[03:13] <bddebian> Why is it 2.4?
[03:13] <welshbyte> dunno
[03:13] <welshbyte> because fedora is behind the times? :)
[03:14] <welshbyte> (i jest, i jest...)
[03:14] <bddebian> I meant that like, Why? Is it 2.4.  Not why is it 2.4? :-)
[03:14] <welshbyte> ah.. yep it's 2.4.0.3-0.20060604cvs_1
[03:15] <bddebian> Oh, hmm
[03:15] <Fujitsu> 4 days, 193 merges. Great.
[03:16] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: you've got more than 4 days, but keep at it :)
[03:16] <Fujitsu> No..
[03:16] <Fujitsu> FeatureFreeze is 4 days away.
[03:16] <crimsun> for main, yes. For universe it's not until the 28th.
[03:18] <Fujitsu> Ah. Didn't notice the UniverseFreeze sitting there...
[03:18] <bluefoxicy> awesome
[03:18] <Fujitsu> The UVF and FF pages need to be updated for that.
[03:18] <bluefoxicy> I raised the SDL maintainer a few hours ago, he's got the patches from Gentoo to fix the textrels
[03:18] <Fujitsu> Neither say they're for main.
[03:19] <bluefoxicy> I don't know if SDL 1.2.12 will hit before edgy though, probably not :<
[03:19] <crimsun> SDL is in main, anyway, which is way past UVF.
[03:20] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  shiiiit.  :(  You guys don't want wtf version of sdl do we have anyway
[03:20] <bluefoxicy> .10
[03:21] <crimsun> we'll have to backport all necessary patches.
[03:21] <bluefoxicy> I don't know if the 1.2.9 patches apply to 1.2.10, they probably do
[03:22] <bluefoxicy> it's a textrel fix though, which (unless we're running PaX suddenly) is only a performance issue (load-time and memory usage decrease by fixing it)
[03:22] <Fujitsu> Hahah. I've had versions of about one-third of a percent of Ubuntu's source packages uploaded. What a great statistic >_<
[03:22] <bluefoxicy> (with PaX, you can violate a PaX protection exactly 1 time as a method for emulating ELF .text relocations; this can be abused by a very, very lucky and very crafty attacker to inject code under extremely specialized conditions)
[03:23] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I have doubts that it's significant enough to justify a UVF break to merge the patches at this point anyway
[03:23] <bluefoxicy> they're invasive assembly changes and they just fix TEXTRELs
[03:28] <Fujitsu> There are no changelog entries mentioning a new Ubuntu version!
[03:28] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: that reads like a pretty poor reason for a UVF
[03:28] <Fujitsu> Just a lot of merging.
[03:28] <Fujitsu> No original reason >_<
[03:28] <crimsun> I don't think mdz is going to fly with "invasive changes"
 crimsun:  I have doubts that it's significant enough to justify a UVF break to merge the patches at this point anyway
[03:29] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: heh.  okay then?  orig.tar.gz's the same?
[03:29] <crimsun> (right, saw that, just concurring)
[03:29] <bluefoxicy> yeah
[03:29] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  maybe backports though, depending.
[03:30] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[03:30] <Fujitsu> It was just python2.4 changes, but there's no corresponding changelog entry.
[03:31] <bluefoxicy> Or we can just ignore it until 1.2.12 for Edgy+1
[03:31] <crimsun> gah.
[03:31] <crimsun> dch -D, please!
[03:31] <crimsun> granted I should have caught that, but...
[03:31] <Fujitsu> -D?
[03:31] <Fujitsu> What'd -D do?
[03:31] <crimsun> more xfig_3.2.5-alpha5-7ubuntu1_source.changes: Distribution: unstable
[03:32] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[03:32] <Fujitsu> I didn't know I had to do that... Sorry.
[03:33] <crimsun> you don't have to use dch -D specifically, but for manual uploads (e.g., merges), the distribution is important
[03:33] <crimsun> the sync script that the archive admins use have special magic
[03:33] <crimsun> has ^
[03:33] <Fujitsu> OK.
[03:34] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I have no idea what the hell this is for  http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/media-libs/libsdl/files/libsdl-1.2.9-sdl-blit-mmx-check.patch?rev=1.1.1.1&view=markup
[03:34] <Fujitsu> That should be the only broken one, it's because I merged it manually.
[03:34] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  it says it fixes segfaults
[03:34] <bluefoxicy> installing bomberclone to see if it segfaults
[03:34] <Fujitsu> I normally use dch -e, and it's been OK for the others because they were originally done by MoM.
[03:34] <crimsun> right, MoM tweaks all that
[03:35] <crimsun> again, it's partly my fault since I should have seen it
[03:35] <bluefoxicy> (I see we don't have that patch; what exactly the problem is, I don't know..)
[03:35] <Fujitsu> More my fault, I should have noticed that.
[03:35] <crimsun> no biggie, I'll fix and reupload
[03:36] <Fujitsu> Did Soyuz stop that from being put through?
[03:36] <crimsun> yes, it's a silent fail
[03:36] <crimsun> neither uploader nor changed-by gets notification
[03:36] <Fujitsu> OK.
[03:37] <bluefoxicy> I'll ask about it.
[03:50] <welshbyte> is it ok to close bug 31183? seems like the update was done but no one closed it
[03:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 31183 in swt-gtk "Missing: Update libswt-gtk-3.1 to revision 3.1.2 for Azureus 2.4.0.0" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/31183
[03:52] <tseng> bddebian: you can open the srpm in file-roller btw
[03:52] <tseng> bddebian: and the patches are in there as seperate files, if there happen to be patches
[03:53] <crimsun> welshbyte: yep.
[03:57] <welshbyte> ok now we need to get 3.2 from debian :)
[03:58] <Fujitsu> Thankyou for those uploads, crimsun :)
[03:58] <bddebian> welshbyte: For 2.5? ;-P
[03:58] <welshbyte> bddebian: indeedy
[03:58] <crimsun> Fujitsu: np.
[04:02] <welshbyte> bddebian: i tried building the debian package of 2.5 and the control file seemed to suggest that it would build with gcj, only we need to update that swt-gtk thingamabob 3.2 for it
[04:02] <bddebian> welshbyte: The control file seemed to suggest?
[04:03] <welshbyte> bddebian: yeah the build-depends section had alternatives to the sun java stuff
[04:03] <welshbyte> using |
[04:03] <bddebian> Isn't there a note in README.Debian about it though?
[04:04] <welshbyte> yep, written in May
[04:04] <bddebian> Hmm
[04:04] <welshbyte> there have been a few changes since then
[04:05] <welshbyte> of course, i'm being dangerously optimistic
[04:05] <bddebian> :-)
[04:05] <bddebian> And I don't know if that is the only thing doko was concerned about..
[04:06] <welshbyte> was he just concerned about things or does he know for certain what state it's in?
[04:08] <crimsun> hmph, another heisenberg.
[04:08] <crimsun> although at this point it has stopped being a heisenberg and fairly consistent :/
[04:09] <welshbyte> :/ heisenbugs are annoying
[04:12] <bddebian> welshbyte: I think his main concern was building with a non-free compiler but I don't know for sure
[04:12] <bddebian> crimsun: Ah, but you can fix anything
[04:13] <crimsun> bddebian: with enough time & money, most people could.
[04:13] <bddebian> I couldn't
[04:14] <crimsun> then add more money.
[04:14] <bddebian> More money would make me smarter?
[04:15] <welshbyte> people with money don't need to be smart
[04:15] <welshbyte> e.g. Bush
[04:15] <tseng> 1, Bush graduated from Yale, 2, save your politicing for somewhere else in the future
[04:16] <welshbyte> tseng: apologies
[04:16] <bddebian> Heh, that was actually pretty mild :-)
[04:17] <crimsun> the point is that if you have said resources, someone else can do it :)
[04:23] <bddebian> I like doing it.  I don't particularly like being stupid :-)
[04:23] <crimsun> maybe I prod you with a hobbsee stick you'll stop saying that
[04:23] <crimsun> +if
[04:26] <welshbyte> oh this is getting complicated
[04:28] <welshbyte> debian has those swt-gtk 3.2 libraries in a source package called swt-gtk but we don't have it in ubuntu and the libraries are provided by the eclipse source package
[04:29] <crimsun> not really.
[04:31] <crimsun> looks like the first step is to make the eclipse source package stop building those binary packages, whenupon you'll be able to ask for swt-gtk to be NEWed, then azureus will be buildable
[04:38] <welshbyte> eclipse provides an earlier version of the packages (3.1)... would it break other things to stop providing them?
[04:38] <crimsun> well if you have swt-gtk (which provides 3.2, no?), then you'd want packages to build-dep against its -dev
[04:39] <crimsun> you'll have to work out whether Conflicts/Replaces is/are necessary
[04:41] <welshbyte> i hate to keep asking questions, but, how would i work that out?
[04:41] <tseng> if package a has the same files as package b and they cant be put in a seperate place and expected to work
[04:42] <tseng> they conflict and or replace
[04:42] <tseng> replaces if one supercedes the other for good
[04:42] <welshbyte> ah ok, makes sense
[04:52] <bddebian> This is crazy, there is just too much to do..
[04:55] <welshbyte> bddebian: in general, or to get azureus to build?
[05:01] <bddebian> welshbyte: In general.  REVU is out of control, Bugs are out of control, ad finitum :-)
[05:03] <welshbyte> bddebian: guess that's what happens when you're (ubuntu is) popular :)
[05:08] <welshbyte> bddebian: don't let it affect your motu-vation ;)
[05:14] <bddebian> welshbyte: :-)
[05:15] <bddebian> Well as the core-devs say.  What I do is minimal anyway
[05:15] <bddebian> Funny face?
[05:16] <tseng> yes
[05:16] <tseng> you are either undyingly self-deprecating and cynical or just like to twist things around
[05:16] <bddebian> What am I twising around?
[05:16] <tseng> "core-dev" != tech board
[05:17] <tseng> and neither called it minimal
[05:17] <bddebian> And yes I am undyingly self-deprecating in case it's not obvious :-)
[05:18] <imbrandon_> ugh i got a problem
[05:18] <imbrandon_> re
[05:18] <imbrandon_> anyone here using upstart yet ?
[05:19] <imbrandon_> know howto recover from a mis-install of it?
[05:19] <imbrandon_> heh
[05:19] <bddebian> tseng: Seriously though, how would you put what was said?
[05:19] <imbrandon_> here let me tell you all what i have managed to do and then i'll take sugestions
[05:19] <tseng> bddebian: I wouldnt have said it, I guess
[05:20] <bddebian> Wouldn't have said what?
[05:24] <Fujitsu> imbrandon_, what's the problem?
[05:25] <imbrandon_> well i instlled upstart and it removed ubuntu-minimal and sysinitv ( as per normal ) rebooted , and ......
[05:25] <imbrandon_> nothing, a login prompt with no hostname , no network, no nothing
[05:25] <imbrandon_> something is terribly wrong
[05:26] <imbrandon_> afaik its a dropin repacement is what keybuk say earlier
[05:26] <imbrandon_> well now i'm stuck
[05:26] <imbrandon_> and not quite sure how to fix it LOL
[05:26] <imbrandon_> oh and no /home
[05:27] <imbrandon_> so i'm guessing its a busybox login
[05:27] <ajmitch> imbrandon_: and upstart-compat-sysv ?
[05:27] <imbrandon_> but no idea
[05:27] <imbrandon_> ajmitch: no it dident ask me to install that ( e.g dident depend on it ) so i guess not
[05:27] <ajmitch> imbrandon_: no, but keybuk told you to
[05:27] <imbrandon_> gah i must have missed that
[05:28] <ajmitch> "Install the upstart and upstart-compat-sysv packages from universe.
[05:28] <ajmitch> This will ask to remove sysvinit (and thus ubuntu-minimal) in favour of
[05:28] <ajmitch> the new packages."
[05:28] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[05:28] <imbrandon_> shit is there a recovery option now ?
[05:28] <ajmitch> it's somewhat needed to get /etc/rcX.d used
[05:28] <ajmitch> hello
[05:28] <ajmitch> imbrandon_: your stack of live cds?
[05:28] <imbrandon_> yea i have a  live cd , not a problem but .... um well chroot in and install it ?
[05:28] <ajmitch> yes
[05:29] <imbrandon_> cool ok , let me take this lappy back there and i'll try that , thanks ajmitch
[05:29] <imbrandon_> i was / am in over my head atm LOL should have read a bit more carefull before replaceing
[05:29] <imbrandon_> vital sytstem stuff
[05:29] <imbrandon_> heh
[05:43] <imbrandon_> 
[05:43] <imbrandon_> 
[05:59] <ausimage> Hello I wanted to bring to the attention of MOTU bug #58682
[05:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58682 in galeon "Consistent Crash on Specific Pages in Edgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58682
[06:01] <ajmitch> hit & run bugs.. fun
[06:02] <Fujitsu> Yup.
[06:03] <welshbyte> heh, i was just helping that person in -bugs
[06:07] <crimsun> .oO( why is that a motu issue? )
[06:25] <welshbyte> ooh launchpad turns about:plugins into a link, that's a nice touch
[06:25] <imbrandon> ajmitch: thanks man worked like a charm, dunno why i dident think of it, but you live and learn i guess ;)
[06:25] <imbrandon> everything working perfect now, well atleaste as it was
[06:25] <imbrandon> ahh well hows things MOTU world? /me is back from the birthday boys family get togather
[06:27] <imbrandon> anyone know where i can get the list of vga= modes for the kernel boot parms ? e.g vga=<val>  to make the console say 1600x1200@16bit color ?
[06:29] <Amaranth> i wish there was one for 1440x900@32-bit :)
[06:32] <imbrandon> heh
[06:32] <imbrandon> probably is there are tons of modes i just dont know them and Uncle Google isnt helping much
[06:32] <imbrandon> i just hate when i drop to tty1 its such a large font , and lately i've been doing it a quite a bit
[06:36] <welshbyte> imbrandon: vga=ask lets you choose from a list
[06:37] <Amaranth> imbrandon: Oh, you can blame usplash for that
[06:37] <Amaranth> on my laptop i get what looks like 800x600 screen size but the terminal thinks it has more room
[06:37] <Amaranth> so i can't see what i'm typing, it's off the bottom of the screen
[06:38] <Amaranth> and i believe setting vga= breaks usplash
[06:39] <imbrandon> well i turn off usplash most of the time anyhow ( unless i'm demoing it to someone to "awe" them )
[06:39] <imbrandon> so no big loss
[07:37] <welshbyte> hey Hobbsee
[07:37] <Hobbsee> hey welshbyte
[07:54] <imbrandon>  .... cuz we all just wanna be big rock stars , live in hilltop houses and drive 15 cars ...... 
[07:54] <pcniatic> there is any problem with the wiki?
[07:55] <pcniatic> i cant see it
[07:58] <imbrandon> pcniatic: yea seems dead
[07:58] <imbrandon> it will most likely be back soonish
[07:58] <imbrandon> just try it again later i guess
[07:59] <pcniatic> ok
[07:59] <imbrandon> they might be working on something at the DC ( though i doubt it this late on a sat night )
[08:00] <pcniatic> i doubt it too
[10:36] <Whoopie> Hi, did anybody find out why some packages didn't arrive into the dapper-backports archives (e.g. xmoto, xchat, kopete)?
[10:37] <Hobbsee> Whoopie: because it broke?
[10:37] <Hobbsee> http://launchpad.net/bugs/58144 perhaps
[10:37] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58144 in soyuz "Backport is rejected if an older backport is already there" [Critical,Confirmed] 
[10:38] <Burgundavia> UWN is being edited as we speak. Gobby on port 6522 on 24.69.71.211 <-- please edit
[10:38] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: you do it via gobby.  cool!
[10:38] <Burgundavia> the wiki broke
[10:38] <Hobbsee> true that
[10:44] <Plug> GThread-ERROR **: GThread system may only be initialized once.
[10:44] <Plug> No Gobby for me! :(
[10:47] <welshbyte> plug: are you seeing bug 49780 ?
[10:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 49780 in gobby "Gobby crashes upon load when GNOME accessibility options are turned on." [Untriaged,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/49780
[10:48] <Burgundavia> welshbyte: hmm, not seeing that in edgy, with orca
[10:54] <Plug> I'll look
[10:54] <Plug> but I don't think I have any accessibility options turned on
[10:55] <Plug> though it seems I did have them enabled
[10:55] <Plug> or at least the first box ticked. :)
[11:00] <Burgundavia> Fujitsu: to answer your question in the gobby session, that soc stuff is mostly just a brain dump to be cleaned up
[11:00] <Fujitsu> OK, I thought it must have been something like that...
[11:00] <Fujitsu> My internet connection is being really really laggy and bad at the moment...
[11:00] <Burgundavia> there is a note at the top of the section saying that, but it is hard to miss
[11:00] <Burgundavia> s/hard/easy/
[11:01] <Burgundavia> I am going to bed, but feel free to edit to your hearts content. Machine will be up
[11:03] <Fujitsu> Are we going to list all of the SoC projects?
[11:03] <Burgundavia> might, see how much space it ends up taking
[11:03] <Burgundavia> I might list them on a seperate page, or get a fridge article written about it
[11:03] <Fujitsu> OK.
[11:03] <Burgundavia> possibly a seperate posting to ubuntu-news
[11:05] <Fujitsu> That's not a bad idea.
[11:07] <Fujitsu> Hrm.
[11:46] <kagou> i had problem recovering my password for revu.
[11:46] <kagou> To decrypt your password, type the following into your shell:
[11:46] <kagou> > gpg -d <<EOT ; echo
[11:46] <welshbyte> kagou: you and lots of us others too :)
[11:46] <welshbyte> it's been broken for a while
[11:46] <kagou> welshbyte: ah ok. thanks welshbyte
[11:46] <kagou> so we must wait
[11:47] <welshbyte> i guess so
[11:48] <phanatic> morning
[11:48] <welshbyte> morning
[11:49] <phanatic> hi welshbyte
[11:49] <welshbyte> hey phanatic
[12:54] <Sp4rKy> help
[12:54] <Sp4rKy> \o
[12:54] <Fujitsu> ?
[12:55] <Sp4rKy> sorry
[12:55] <Sp4rKy> bad use of /amsg :p
[12:55] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[01:08] <tortoise_> Any revu admins about?
[01:10] <tortoise_> I can't get my password from the recover system and I re-uploaded a package with some corrections and it hasnt shown up either
[01:12] <welshbyte> tortoise_: the password recovery script has been broken for a while... not sure about why your upload didn't work though
[01:14] <zanaga> I just filed a sync request on tailor, does it look ok? https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/58697
[01:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58697 in tailor "[Edgy]  Please sync tailor from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] 
[01:14] <zanaga> hmm.. ;)
[01:14] <tortoise_> welshbyte:  What is the process for uploading a corrected package?  I tried uploading a package with the same name and that failed with an ftp error.  I bumped the version up one and tried which seemed to work but it hasn't registered on revu.
[01:15] <welshbyte> tortoise_: which package is it?
[01:16] <tortoise_> python-virtkey
[01:16] <welshbyte> tortoise_: what command (including options) did you build the source package with?
[01:17] <tortoise_> dpkg-buildpackage -sa -rfakeroot
[01:21] <tortoise_> welshbyte: any ideas?
[01:23] <welshbyte> tortoise_: not really :/ maybe your bumping the version number confused it? it's unlikely but i don't know the intricacies of revu
[01:24] <tortoise_> Is there a way to make it clear everything and start again?
[01:31] <Fujitsu> Ask a REVU admin, tortoise_.
[01:31] <tortoise_> are there any about?
[01:31] <Fujitsu> Not as far as I know.
[01:31] <tortoise_> grrrrr
[01:32] <Hobbsee> ajmitch, siretart might be
[01:32] <tortoise_> thanks welshbyte, Fujitsu
[01:33] <Hobbsee> tortoise_: what's the problem?
[01:33] <tortoise_> ajmitch, siretart: poke
[01:33] <tortoise_> Can't get my revu password and I've corrected a package I uploaded earlier and it wont let me upload the corrected package
[01:34] <Hobbsee> ah
[02:31] <neutrinomass> Just asking for confirmation: KDE menus look in /usr/share/applications for .desktops, right ?
[02:36] <sladen> siretart: ^^ see tortoise_ above.
[02:36] <sladen> tortoise_: what did you register with?
[02:40] <geser> what happens with the changelog entries from a package with ubuntu changes when it gets synced?
[02:40] <geser> are they lost?
[02:43] <Hobbsee> geser: yes
[02:43] <Hobbsee> geser: they're still on changelogs.ubuntu.com though
[02:47] <tseng> they arent relevant after a sync
[02:47] <tseng> since all ubuntu changes are dropped
[02:56] <phanatic> ivoks: hi, may i pm you?
[02:56] <ivoks> hi
[02:56] <ivoks> umm... is there anything to hind from others? :)
[02:57] <phanatic> ivoks: yeah, i hope it's not a problem :)
[02:58] <ivoks> s/hind/hide/
[02:58] <phanatic> :)
[03:09] <geser> can a motu please review bug 58707 and bug 58708 and add an ACK if everything is ok? thanks
[03:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58707 in ussp-push "[Sync Request]  ussp-push 0.9-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58707
[03:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58708 in multisync "[Sync Request]  multisync 0.82-6.1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58708
[03:44] <geser> Hobbsee: have you some time to look at bug 58707 and bug 58708 and add an ACK?
[03:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58707 in ussp-push "[Sync Request]  ussp-push 0.9-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58707
[03:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58708 in multisync "[Sync Request]  multisync 0.82-6.1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58708
[03:50] <lexual> I have a trivial patch for a bug. Can anyone help me out with getting it applied?
[04:58] <tortoise_> sladen: register with?
[05:06] <tortoise_> can anyone help me with my revu woes? An admin perhaps?
[05:07] <tortoise_> pleeease it's important I get this sorted out
[05:35] <sladen> tortoise_: you said that you had registered with 'REVU'
[05:35] <sladen> tortoise_: which email address did you use when registering with REVU
[05:36] <tortoise_> sladen: cej105@soton.ac.uk
[05:36] <tortoise_> I put the gpg key on LP and got an admin to add it to revu
[05:37] <sladen> tortoise_: but you can't log in?
[05:37] <sladen> tortoise_: your password for REVU will (should) have been sent encrypted to you
[05:38] <sladen> tortoise_: but I know REVU might be slightly broken is the uid is the first on the key (it wouldn't send me mine
[05:38] <tortoise_> the wiki page says click the recover button to get the password but that is apparently broken
[05:38] <sladen> siretart: can you manually send <tortoise_> the REVU password for cej105@soton.ac.uk
[05:38] <tortoise_> sladen: So what do I do?
[05:38] <sladen> tortoise_: oh, you're in Southampton?
[05:38] <sladen> tortoise_: I pop by there now and again
[05:39] <tortoise_> sladen: cool
[05:50] <vil> doko: ping
[05:54] <sladen> tortoise_: ah, are you the on-screen keyboard SoC?
[05:54] <tortoise_> sladen: yep
[05:54] <tortoise_> heno wants it in main so I need to get it in universe pretty sharpish
[05:56] <sladen> tortoise_: indeed.  Sadly there's only one REVU admin---siretart
[05:56] <tortoise_> siretart: ping!!
[05:58] <siretart> sladen: thats not correct. raphink, sistpoty, ajmitch are as well
[05:58] <siretart> tortoise_: pong
[05:58] <siretart> unfortunately, I'm currently moving :(
[05:59] <tortoise_> siretart: okey doke, so you can't help now
[06:00] <siretart> tortoise_: your keyid?
[06:01] <siretart> ah, got it
[06:01] <siretart> tortoise_: you should have it in your inbox
[06:01] <tortoise_> siretart thanks
[06:16] <tortoise_> siretart: It hasn't come through.  DId you send it to cej105 at soton dot ac.uk
[06:16] <tortoise_> ?
[07:01] <tortoise_> siretart: thanks email came through
[07:07] <tortoise_> siretart, \sh, sistpoty, ajmitch, raphink: Is there a way I can get my packages (onboard and virtkey) deleted from revu since they seem to be in an odd state
[07:08] <tortoise_> it won't let me upload any changes
[07:54] <sladen> tortoise_: can you re-upload them?
[07:59] <tortoise_> sladen: get an ftp error if I do with the same name and does nothing with a different filename
[07:59] <tortoise_> bbl
[07:59] <sladen> tortoise_: try  dput -f ubuntu ...
[08:01] <seaLne> i decided to play with cdbs (Makefile type package) but it isn't finding stuff in the packages lib dir so fails to build, any hints on what i might be missing?
[08:02] <seaLne> this previously built fine with just debhelper
[08:16] <kagou> did the problem to recover password on revu solved ?! Or do i ask a revu admin to create my password ?
[08:23] <tortoise_> kagou:admin
[08:24] <kagou> ok tortoise_ . So is there a revu admin around ?! :)
[08:24] <kagou> thanks tortoise_
[08:29] <tortoise_> Getting this error from revu: Uploading via ftp virtkey_0.41.dsc: Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of virtkey_0.41.dsc
[08:29] <tortoise_> I am using  dput -f revu ../virtkey*changes
[08:42] <seaLne> recently uploaded it already?
[08:44] <tortoise_> seaLne: yesterday
[08:45] <seaLne> probably not the problem i've had a few times if i tried uploading with hardly any gap
[08:46] <kagou> ++
[10:01] <phanatic> evening
[10:24] <Toadstool> hi everybody
[11:04] <Sp4rKy> please, does debuild run make distclean ?
[11:08] <fbond> Sp4rKy, debuild does 'debian/rules clean'
[11:08] <Sp4rKy> ok
[11:08] <fbond> if your debian rules file then runs 'make distclean', you get make distclean
[11:08] <Sp4rKy> so if it runs make distclean, i need run ./configure before for create the Makefile, write ?
[11:11] <fbond> it's certainly possible that you will need to do that, yes
[11:11] <sander_m> Hello. Could someone please look into bug #53544, syncing gnome-hearts from Debian? I first requested it 8-9 weeks ago but no result yet. I had hoped to be in time to write a MainInclusionReport for it after it landed on universe, but I fear I may already be too late.
[11:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 53544 in Ubuntu "Please sync gnome-hearts from Debian" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/53544
[11:13] <Sp4rKy> fbond, but configure needs B-D for works good, and debuild dpesn't get them, so how configure could run correctly before make distclean ?