[12:01] <maki> transparency in xubuntu is connected with XGL?
[12:01] <sethk> illusia-ru, it shows the size of the entire drive before the partitions
[12:01] <Softimage> if anyone knows of a good irc client plz tell me, i tried xchat and dont like how it looks
[12:01] <JoseStefan> sethk, everytime he installs any server software he will have to manually edit the corresponding init scripts
[12:01] <axisys> illusia-ru: df -h
[12:01] <sethk> illusia-ru, the unallocated space is the size of the drive less the size of the defined partitions
[12:01] <sethk> JoseStefan, no he doesn't have to.  He can simply start the services.  Add the start statements to the end of a startup file
[12:02] <sethk> JoseStefan, gdm is different, because it is restarted any time it is stopped
[12:02] <HeXiOn> sethk: maybe I have to insmod something after booting with 2.6.17 to make sata work?
[12:02] <sethk> JoseStefan, for a normal, not auto restart service, you simply start it with apachectl start
[12:02] <ChaosFan> :q
[12:02] <BlueEagle> hexion: which sata chipset you got?
[12:02] <sethk> HeXiOn, you made it a module?  Don't do that, compile it into the kernel
[12:02] <illusia-ru> sethk axisys there is only 5 partitions and no partition like unnalocated and don`t show real size.really don`t show partition which i need
[12:02] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: uli 1689
[12:02] <phiber_optic> how can I change how a file opens, all my mp3 are opening with xine
[12:03] <HeXiOn> sethk: yes, that's what I do, but don't works :(
[12:03] <illusia-ru> sethk axisys its show from hda1-5 but i know what i need one of hda6-10
[12:03] <BlueEagle> hexion: self compiled or is .17 out in a ubuntu .deb now?
[12:03] <sethk> illusia-ru, as I told you, it does.  Paste your output and I'll tell you how to interpret it
[12:03] <brucedes> Does anyone know how I can use java on ppc? I want to use Mercury Messenger and azureus, but they need java, which sun doesn't have a ppc version of
[12:03] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: i'm going to try disabling gdm on my setup, brb
[12:03] <tizwonder> does anyone here know any good system monitors that will display on gnome gui in the background?
[12:03] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell bronze about java
[12:03] <HeXiOn> sethk: I compile with my chipset option enabled "ULI electronics SATA support", and when I boot with 2.6.17 theres no SATA partitions
[12:04] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: compiled myself
[12:04] <sethk> HeXiOn, don't build it as a module, configure it as build into the kernel
[12:04] <BlueEagle> where did brucedes go?
[12:04] <illusia-ru> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4864 cylinders
[12:04] <illusia-ru> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:04] <illusia-ru>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:04] <illusia-ru> /dev/hda1   *           1        2677    21502971    7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:04] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: I couldn't make wireless and sata work when compiling myself 2.6.17
[12:04] <illusia-ru> /dev/hda2            3951        3952       16065    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[12:04] <bronze> Wow! Java is neat!
[12:04] <illusia-ru> /dev/hda3            3953        4864     7325640   a5  FreeBSD
[12:04] <illusia-ru> /dev/hda4            2687        3885     9630967+  83  Linux
[12:04] <illusia-ru> /dev/hda5            3951        3952       16033+  14  Hidden FAT16 <32M
[12:04] <Flannel> illusia-ru: Don't paste here.
[12:04] <sethk> HeXiOn, there is no reason to make it a module and deal with having to worry about inserting the module.  there is no case when you don't want it to run, is there?
[12:04] <HeXiOn> sethk: yes, that's what I already did
[12:04] <bluefusionxl> looking on WikiPedia
[12:04] <bluefusionxl> I see that run level 1 is single user mode
[12:04] <sethk> HeXiOn, then why are you asking about modules?
[12:04] <BlueEagle> hexion: Well unless you use an initrd then you'll need to compile sata support into the kernel.
[12:04] <bronze> Oh, wait, I wrote a paper for SUN about Java back in 1997...........
[12:04] <brucedes> so anyone have an idea about java?
[12:04] <illusia-ru> Flannel sorry :(
[12:04] <bluefusionxl> Everyone on my server is going to have a user
[12:05] <HeXiOn> sethk: I follow this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17
[12:05] <sethk> bluefusionxl, no, for other distros, that's true.  for ubuntu, level S is single user
[12:05] <BlueEagle> hexion: as for wireless, are you using ndiswrapper?
[12:05] <finalbeta> phiber_optic, right click an mp3, select open with, pick the app you want to open it with, and you can probably select, always use this app
[12:05] <sethk> bluefusionxl, ubuntu and debian define level S for single user
[12:05] <frisb> Has anyone gotten fglrx to work with xgl/compiz and direct rend? I've got an x1300 on a t60
[12:05] <Softimage> gdesklets has some system mon, but they dont look as good as other i have seen
[12:05] <HeXiOn> sethk: because I don't know why it doen't work.. just asking if I had to do anything else
[12:05] <Flannel> frisb: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:05] <frisb> ah right forgot
[12:05] <printk> frisb: once xgl/compiz are running DRI will not work period
[12:05] <phiber_optic> finalbeta, i already tried that but it doesnt allow me ... ill try to mlodify the defaults.list to see if it works
[12:05] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: no, I use acx module right now (2.6.15-26)
[12:05] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: worked perfectly, and i can start gdm on request. I don't see how it could be easier than this
[12:05] <sethk> HeXiOn, you should not, not.  you should see the sata chipset detected in the dmesg output
[12:05] <frisb> is that true only for fglrx?
[12:05] <Raziekiel> If I have an AMD 64 X2, do I want to use linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic or -k8 ??
[12:06] <sethk> JoseStefan, it's simply wrong, I didn't say it is difficult
[12:06] <printk> frisb: no i think that's just how XGL operates... it takes away DRI for other apps *shrugs*
[12:06] <minerale> is it possible to setup GDM to start XGL and a standard x server at the same time?
[12:06] <sethk> JoseStefan, lots of incorrect things are easy to do
[12:06] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: why is it "wrong" ?
[12:06] <BlueEagle> hexion: Well compile that into the kernel as well. If you haven't got an option for it in make menuconfig you might need to patch your kernel.
[12:06] <printk> minerale: yes it is by creating different sessions
[12:06] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: it's just disabling a service how it is stated on the man pages
[12:06] <illusia-ru> sethk any ideas?
[12:06] <sethk> JoseStefan, because the run levels were created for particular intended user configurations.  changing them makes no sense, unless you have some reason.
[12:06] <frisb> oh ok so it just appears to not be accelerated. I think I remember reading that. But when I followed the compiz.net thread on installing it was slow as all hell
[12:07] <iceman2k> they need to streamline a linux distro, using "ONE" set of standard librarys.
[12:07] <sethk> JoseStefan, I said, several times, that you can disable any service at any level, which is what the man page tells you to do.
[12:07] <cherry_blossom> hi
[12:07] <sethk> JoseStefan, however, by your logic, I could choose absolutely any run level and then turn things on and off.  clearly the run levels were created for a reason.
[12:07] <cherry_blossom> im trying to run emacs on my dapper instillation.  and i get this error Undefined color: "black"
[12:07] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: ubuntu was only designed for one runlevel, and that is 2, going to something else can cause further issues when installing new pakcages
[12:07] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: I have followed this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17   if you had a acx wireless, and a uli SATA, what would you do to make them work? (I don't know how to path kernel)
[12:07] <sethk> JoseStefan, if you don't want to follow that scheme, of course you don't have to, but it's wrong in the absense of some reason .
[12:08] <sethk> JoseStefan, if you are saying the configuration is wrong, and you have a reason, then fine.
[12:08] <sethk> JoseStefan, that's utterly false.  run level 1 was created for a reason.
[12:08] <sethk> JoseStefan, I think you are confused because in other distros, run level 1 is sequivalent to ubuntu's run level S
[12:08] <cherry_blossom> anybody?
[12:09] <illusia-ru> sethk any ideas?
[12:09] <BlueEagle> hexion: Well I haven't got any wireless cards so for that I don't know. As for sata I'd compile in scsi support and the sata driver in question. (in my case sata_sil)
[12:09] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: runlevel 1 is intended for recovery, not running it everyday
[12:09] <sethk> cherry_blossom, that's bizarre
[12:09] <sethk> JoseStefan, not correct.  run level S is intended for recover
[12:09] <BlueEagle> hexion: ..and sata_nv
[12:09] <printk> run level 1 is single user
[12:09] <sethk> JoseStefan, in fedora, run level 1 is single user, NOT in ubuntu
[12:09] <sethk> printk, no, run level S is single user
[12:09] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: on my setup runlevel 1 doesnt start any services at all
[12:09] <cherry_blossom> thats with emacs-snapshot-gtk
[12:09] <cherry_blossom> what im trying to run
[12:10] <sethk> JoseStefan, so?
[12:10] <printk> i thought S = 1.. just a diff name *shrugs*
[12:10] <cherry_blossom> i googled it and it looked like a problem that was there a long time ago
[12:10] <BlueEagle> hexion: a good way to find out what you need is to: lsmod|grep sata and lsmod|grep scsi
[12:10] <cherry_blossom> but it is supposedly fixed
[12:10] <BlueEagle> hexion: when running the stock kernel.
[12:10] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: ok, i give up. i'm out of ideas
[12:10] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: sorry, I can't understand.... you mean enabling an option in make xconfig?
[12:10] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me configure my sound??
[12:10] <psusi> runlevel S is single user... aka recovery mode
[12:10] <sethk> illusia-ru, I'm not clear on what you need to know.  tell me again, sorry, I forgot the beginning of the conversation
[12:10] <psusi> nothing starts up but sulogin
[12:10] <BlueEagle> hexion: no, I'm talking about checking which modules are loaded.
[12:10] <phiber_optic> I have sound blaster 5.1 but only 2 work
[12:10] <BlueEagle> hexion: also, why do you need the new kernel?
[12:10] <phiber_optic> I have sound blaster 5.1 but only 2 speakers work
[12:11] <sethk> BlueEagle, it isn't an issue of identifying his sata hardware.  we did that 20 minutes ago
[12:11] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell phiber_optic about repeat
[12:11] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: because my system freezes 5 times a day when using my SATA :(
[12:11] <sethk> BlueEagle, and, it appears he needs an older kernel, actually
[12:11] <BlueEagle> sethk: all-righty then. I was reading my book then. :)
[12:11] <lens> My search engine never seems to work and I have some files I really need to find... I don't understand how the search engine doesn't pick up certain thing.  any ideas?
[12:11] <illusia-ru> sethk i have unnalocated space in my HDD(/dev/hda) and the is 500mb /dev/hda6-10 i want it make as swap,but i can`t find which one from hda6-10 i need?
[12:11] <sethk> BlueEagle, one of the kernel problems injected into dapper
[12:12] <Flannel> cherry_blossom: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2004-11/msg00077.html
[12:12] <minerale> printk: I've been trying but it does not seem to work, how do you specify a different x server for a session ?
[12:12] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: dmesg tells me I'm using sata_uli
[12:12] <sethk> illusia-ru, oh, you can create swap space as any of those.  just make a swap partition that is /dev/sda6
[12:12] <BlueEagle> sethk: I see. So rebuilding the .15 would be more prudent than making a new .17?
[12:12] <sethk> BlueEagle, I think so, especially as he's already tried .17  :)
[12:12] <sethk> BlueEagle, and this problem was introduced when he upgraded
[12:13] <BlueEagle> hexion: apperantly sethk has got a follow on your problem so to avoid redundancies I'll let him handle it. He's a competent man. :)
[12:13] <illusia-ru> sethk but i don`t know which one i must use :( how can i find it?
[12:13] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl: alternativly you could just remove xorg related packages
[12:13] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: ok, thank you :)
[12:13] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl: or consider ubuntu-server
[12:13] <sethk> illusia-ru, to create a new partition you may use any unused partition designation.
[12:13] <sethk> illusia-ru, it makes absolutely no difference which one you choose
[12:13] <whitehorseNtiger> How do I install a c++ compiler that uses "make"
[12:13] <Adam_G> quick question: could I add debian repositories to my sources.list?
[12:13] <Flannel> cherry_blossom: or, more specifically: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=858323
[12:14] <TomB> whitehorseNtiger, apt-get install build-essential
[12:14] <Flannel> Adam_G: No
[12:14] <sethk> HeXiOn, to see if the new kernel is seeing the sata hardware, you look at the output of dmesg, which should show the sata hardware being detected
[12:14] <ubuntu> Flannel, hi
[12:14] <phiber_optic> how can i check which module is using my sound card??
[12:14] <whitehorseNtiger> TomB thanks
[12:14] <codyzapp> shut, ask ... lol
[12:14] <TomB> np
[12:14] <Adam_G> Flannel, hm. ok :/
[12:14] <mopflite> whitehorseNtiger: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:14] <Toran> how can I get the "extract here..." service menu in konqueror for .RAR files? I have it for .zip and .tar.gz and .tar.bz2, but not rars
[12:14] <psusi> whitehorseNtiger, you don't.... make processes a makefile and invokes compilers and linkers and other tools to build a project...
[12:14] <HeXiOn> sethk: ok, and if don't what can I do?
[12:14] <sethk> HeXiOn, I think your best bet is to back up to the kernel version that is known to work.
[12:14] <psusi> the compiler does not use make... make typically runs the compiler
[12:14] <ubuntu> Toran,  rarlabs.com
[12:14] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know how to get thunderbird to make an alert noise when email has arrived?
[12:14] <kaymann> Is there a way to install newer versions of gaim on Dapper?
[12:14] <Flannel> Adam_G: debian/ubuntu aren't guaranteed compatable, however if you add debian source repositories, you could use them
[12:15] <whitehorseNtiger> I downloaded "acquire" and it needs to be built.
[12:15] <illusia-ru> sethk but another from hda6-10 are busy and not unnalocated.If i broke them it would be problem :(
[12:15] <BlueEagle> toran: I think you'll have more luck with that question in #kubuntu as konquorer is a kde app.
[12:15] <whitehorseNtiger> It has a makefile
[12:15] <sethk> HeXiOn, then we have to figure out why, and it may indeed be kernel configuration.  For example, you need scsi disk, and I don't think we checked whether or not it is enabled.
[12:15] <HeXiOn> sethk: I was thinking on it too... you reffer on installing the first kernel-image in dapper, don't you? (2.6.15-23 I think)
[12:15] <ubuntu> kaymann,  u mean 2?
[12:15] <sethk> illusia-ru, according to what you pasted, none of /dev/hda6 and above is used
[12:15] <mbd> hi. id really like some help getting ati fglrx drivers working
[12:15] <cherry_blossom> all those files already exists
[12:15] <sethk> illusia-ru, you can't have it both ways.  Either they appear in the output, or they don't.
[12:16] <sethk> HeXiOn, whichever one was working for you.
[12:16] <overridden> I've just comiled/installed gtk+-2.10.2 and now gnome lobs says it doesnt find gtk-config ?
[12:16] <kaymann> yes ubuntu.
[12:16] <overridden> anyone know how to get gtk-config script ?
[12:16] <overridden> gnome-libs
[12:16] <sethk> overridden, there is a package for it
[12:16] <cherry_blossom> brb im gonna try resetting X
[12:16] <HeXiOn> sethk: to be honest, I don't know. I don't know even if this all is caused by kernel or by something I installed :(
[12:16] <sethk> overridden, from source, I'd have to hunt it up.
[12:16] <overridden> locate doesnt find it
[12:17] <sethk> HeXiOn, nothing other than the kernel can cause the system to just freeze solid like that.
[12:17] <Glench> anyone know a utility to view other computers on your wireless network?
[12:17] <HeXiOn> sethk: the only think I know is that I have this problem so many time, and it's the same with linux-386 and linux-k7
[12:17] <Megaqwerty>  Does anyone know how to get thunderbird to make an alert noise when email has arrived?
[12:17] <BlueEagle> mbd: Did you read !ati?
[12:17] <BlueEagle> !ati
[12:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:17] <overridden> nothing finds it, it should be in /usr/local/bin/gtk-config
[12:17] <illusia-ru> sethk you mean is what from hda6-10 are made like for future?and they will use unnalocated spaec?
[12:17] <bluefusionxl> someone in the forums said to /etc/init.d/gdm to something else
[12:18] <bluefusionxl> rename
[12:18] <sethk> overridden, then you are compiling from source.  It's part of libgtk.  You did make install?
[12:18] <mbd> yes, neither the first or Seveas Repository method worked
[12:18] <bluefusionxl> so i did, and its a text-base startup
[12:18] <bluefusionxl> will i run iunto any problems?
[12:18] <bluefusionxl> into
[12:18] <overridden> I dide make checkinstall :)
[12:18] <sethk> illusia-ru, when you create an extended partition, then you make hda6-10 available for use as logical partition names.
[12:18] <Intelligitimate> I am having a problem getting open office to do the header correctly. I want to make it insert my last name plus the page number, but I can't get it to.
[12:18] <duderock> i could really use some opinions on this problem - this log shows from startup to lockup - i'm having trouble interepreting the cause of the failure... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22365
[12:18] <mbd> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or manually editing xorg.conf, no difference
[12:18] <duderock> It's an AMD X2 socket AM2 on a Gigabyte N55SLI
[12:18] <duderock> w/800mhz DDR2 G.Skill Ram
[12:19] <whitehorseNtiger> why does "build-essential" need my dapper cd
[12:19] <sethk> whitehorseNtiger, you can remove the CD from your sources.list and it will not.
[12:19] <Glench> it needs it because it's essential ^_^
[12:19] <duderock> whitehorseNtiger: have you edited /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:19] <Flannel> whitehorseNtiger: it needs a repository, you have your dapper CD still listed as a repository, apparently.  You should probably remove that
[12:19] <HeXiOn> sethk: then I'll try this, I will try again to compile 2.6.17 and see dmesg output. If it fails I don't know how to do to enable SATA and I will not have wireless so I won't be able to come here to ask you.... then I will install a previous image on dapper repo and see if it works.  Do you think my plan is correct? something to add? :)
[12:19] <sethk> HeXiOn, backing up to something that is know to work is I think your best option, yes.
[12:20] <Megaqwerty>  Does anyone know how to get thunderbird to make an alert sound when there is a new email?
[12:20] <overridden> Done. The new package has been installed and saved to ....
[12:20] <overridden> so why oh why sethk
[12:20] <HeXiOn> sethk: ok, well, I'll try to make things work. THANK YOU again for your support :)
[12:20] <overridden> hehe
[12:21] <sethk> overridden, I'm not sure whether you are saying it works, or it doesn't.  :)
[12:21] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, that could break updates
[12:21] <HeXiOn> bye
[12:21] <marshall_> hey guys
[12:22] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: In OOo writer choose Insert -> Top text -> Standard  and then  Insert -> Fields -> Page number
[12:22] <marshall_> how do you make your root apps have the same theme as the rest of your gtk apps?
[12:22] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: and just do that where you want the page number to be.
[12:22] <Raziekiel> Axisys: I followed the instructions on the page the bot gave me for installing nvidia drivers. When I got to the final step, type "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" I get "Error: your X configuration has been altered."
[12:22] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl: you should not rename anything un /etc/init.d/
[12:22] <mbd> BlueEagle, neither officcial repositories method or Seveas method work. xorg.conf looks all right, ati control works, but fglrxinfo says it still uses mesa
[12:22] <overridden> installing gtk+-2.10.2 worked, but gnome-libs-1.4.2 cant find the gtk-config script sethk
[12:22] <JoseStefan> on*
[12:22] <overridden> and I need it to compile gide-0.3.5
[12:23] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: if you want to left-align the one and right-align the other then you might need a table in the top text. (it might be called header, I'm using a different language and attempt to translate back) :)
[12:23] <Intelligitimate> Thanks.
[12:23] <sethk> overridden, you installed from source, which installs to /usr/local.  then you are trying to use stuff from packages, which assumes that the install path was /usr, not /usr/local
[12:23] <Intelligitimate> I got it now, BlueEagle.
[12:23] <Intelligitimate> Thanks for your help.
[12:23] <BlueEagle> mbd: Well I don't use ati so I wouldn't know. :/
[12:23] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: No problem. :)
[12:23] <sethk> overridden, if you are going to mix stuff compiled from source and stuff installed from packages, you have to override the install directory when compiling from source.
[12:23] <overridden> no no, its all from source
[12:23] <phiber_optic> why cant I get 5.1 sound ?
[12:23] <marshall_> how do you make your root apps have the same theme as the rest of your gtk apps?
[12:23] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: It's also described in the help files of OOo iirc.
[12:23] <CNote> I'm not seeing an SMP kernel listed in my available packages to download...am I missing something?
[12:23] <mbd> damnit. worked this morning, too, before hd crash :\
[12:24] <sethk> then what is gnome-libs-1.4.2?
[12:24] <kaymann> Can you install composit/aiglx in Dapper without compiz?
[12:24] <sethk> overridden, make sure /usr/local/bin is in your execution search path
[12:24] <psusi> CNote, iirc, there is only one kernel image, and it is SMP capable
[12:24] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: the keywords for it in OOo helps is: page numbers;footers (for future reference) :)
[12:24] <overridden> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[12:24] <marshall_> how do you make your root apps have the same theme as the rest of your gtk apps?
[12:25] <BlueEagle> marshall_: "root apps" as in apps you're running as root?
[12:25] <CNote> psusi: when I get the available 686 kernel, it doesn't appear that it is using SMP, I have a ipw9345 wireless card and the docs I see state it needs the SMP kernel
[12:25] <whitehorseNtiger> thanks guys
[12:25] <marshall_> BlueEagle: yeah
[12:25] <Jamminpotato> is tehre a shuffle feature in quod libet?
[12:25] <Raziekiel> Can anyone help me install nvidia drivers? I get an "Error: your X configuration has been altered." error
[12:25] <psusi> CNote, a wireless card shouldn't give a hoot about smp
[12:26] <sethk> overridden, paste the error you believe is caused by not finding gtk-config
[12:26] <marshall_> BlueEagle: they used to look ok, then installed the rezlooks engine and now they are ugly and grey
[12:26] <BlueEagle> marshall_: Do you really WANT to have them in the same theme? I'd rather make them a theme that flashes red and that sounds 'WARNING' out of the soundcard every now and then so that you don't inadvertently do something foolish. :)
[12:26] <CNote> I'
[12:26] <marshall_> BlueEagle: lol
[12:26] <marshall_> BlueEagle: ok how do i manage that though
[12:27] <BlueEagle> marshall_: I really don't know. I just felt like being funny. :p
[12:27] <marshall_> BlueEagle: lol
[12:27] <BlueEagle> marshall_: I haven't used rezlooks and not quite sure what that is.
[12:27] <CNote> psusi: does the system detect it can utilize SMP and load it from the kernel properly?
[12:27] <marshall_> BlueEagle: its a neat little gtk engine
[12:28] <BlueEagle> cnote: if it loads the SMP kernel then it uses SMP when applicable.
[12:28] <BlueEagle> cnote: in the console type: uname -a
[12:28] <psusi> CNote, the kernel detects multiple processors and uses them if they are there
[12:28] <CNote> right...
[12:28] <BlueEagle> cnote: if it lists SMP then you're good to go. :)
[12:28] <overridden> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22376
[12:28] <whitehorseNtiger> if i install build-essential on a 64bit system, does it always compile for full 64bit processing?
[12:28] <sethk> overridden, looking
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: How did you try to install the drivers
[12:28] <CNote> I'm coming from a Gentoo world where I compiled my own kernel, and fedora has their "SMP" specific kernels,
[12:29] <BlueEagle> cnote: Ubuntu has got SMP kernels availible in the repositories.
[12:29] <psusi> whitehorseNtiger, define "fulll 64 bit processing"... it builds 64 bit binaries if that is what you mean
[12:29] <sethk> overridden, I only see the last few lines, but the message is telling you how to fix it.
[12:29] <sethk> overridden, also
[12:29] <CNote> BlueEagle: which repositories are those?
[12:29] <sethk> overridden, the message doesn't say that it didn't find gtk-config
[12:29] <overridden> I know, but I dont have gtk-config
[12:29] <BlueEagle> cnote: You can also d/l the source and build-essential and compile your own kernel if you're more comfortable doing it that way.
[12:29] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow: I've tried the ubuntuguide, and https://help.ubuntu.com. Neither gets passed sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:29] <whitehorseNtiger>  psusi:  will it use all 64bits available?
[12:29] <sethk> overridden, it says it didn't find gtk-config >= 1.2.0
[12:29] <BlueEagle> !info linux-smp
[12:29] <ubotu> Package linux-smp does not exist in any distro I know
[12:29] <BlueEagle> hmm
[12:30] <psusi> CNote, ubuntu unified them because there is a new kernel feature where if the kernel doesn't detect multiple cpus, it patches itself so there is no performance loss over building it for only one cpu
[12:30] <Megaqwerty> !AV
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AV - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[12:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:30] <Megaqwerty> !Viruses
[12:30] <sethk> overridden, you did make install on the tarball with libgtk?
[12:30] <psusi> whitehorseNtiger, it will try...
[12:30] <CNote> psusi: o
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Viruses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <CNote> ok
[12:30] <whitehorseNtiger>  psusi ok, thanks
[12:30] <BlueEagle> !info linux-686-smp
[12:30] <overridden> sethk: ii  gtk+                                  2.10.2-1                          Package created with checkinstall 1.6.0
[12:30] <ubotu> linux-686-smp: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Is that the one you tried?
[12:30] <ryanakca> Megaqwerty: there aren't viruses on linux
[12:30] <sethk> overridden, did you do make install with the gtk package?
[12:30] <boricua> having issues with my mic both with ekiga and skype
[12:30] <BlueEagle> cnote: in the restricted components
[12:31] <JoseStefan> !av > Megaqwerty
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about av - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <Megaqwerty> ryanakca: I know, but I'm pretty sure ubotu has a link explaining why, I'm trying to explain it to someone.
[12:31] <CNote> BlueEagle: those repositories are not enabled by default?
[12:31] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yes, thats the one I just tried
[12:31] <JoseStefan> !virus > Megaqwerty
[12:31] <Frederick> folks doesn't ubuntu features openssl-dev?
[12:31] <Megaqwerty> thanks JoseStefan!
[12:31] <duderock> anyone know how to scroll back in irssi?
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel:and you are running dapper?
[12:32] <BlueEagle> cnote: Not sure. Even if they are I recomend you head over to the source-o-matic
[12:32] <Anthrax> helo people
[12:32] <sethk> Megaqwerty, there are a couple of known linux viruses, although it's debatable whether they are just theoretical or they are actually floating around out there.
[12:32] <cherry_blossom> so no luck with that
[12:32] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell cnote about easysource
[12:32] <cherry_blossom> even with those simlinks
[12:32] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yep, just got my CDs yesterday, installed it this morning
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Can you use pastebin to show the error you are getting.
[12:33] <cherry_blossom> emacs-snapshot-nox will run
[12:33] <cherry_blossom> but emacs-snapshot-gtk throws "Undefined color: "black" "
[12:34] <Softimage> why does firefox crash so much
[12:34] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22377
[12:34] <overridden> sethk: I dont understand what you are asking ?
[12:35] <jdahm> is wireshark still called ethereal in synaptic?
[12:35] <sethk> overridden, gtk-config is copied to /usr/local/bin when you run    make install       for libgtk.  if you haven't run make install, then of course the file isn't in /usr/local/bin
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Did you manually edit xorg?
[12:36] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  No, was somewhat afraid to try lol
[12:36] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I tried the " md5sum/etc/X11/xorg.conf|sudotee/var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum" line earlier, and then my gui wouldn't load. I had to reinstall
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  from a terminal
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Save a backup copy
[12:38] <cherry_blossom> so no one uses emacs with ubuntu?
[12:38] <atoponce> anyone know of a gui network traffic analyzer? i need to see average load on certain ports in real time
[12:38] <atoponce> among other stats
[12:38] <boricua> when i run alsamixer mic shows off how do i turn it on
[12:38] <cosmos`cu> The music player that comes with ubuntu doesnt recognize mp3's  Can anyone suggest an alternative?
[12:38] <narg> !mp3
[12:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <BHSPitMonkey> cosmos`cu, you need to.... follow those directions ^
[12:38] <cherry_blossom> use ogg ^_^
[12:38] <carl> Hey guys, just a quick question. is there a WMV codec package anywhere in the resp?
[12:39] <Abst> carl: See what ubotu just said
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: If you want to paste your xorg fine but you should not need to just to edit nv to nvidia
[12:39] <BHSPitMonkey> cherry_blossom, the solution isn't to change the user's tastes or needs :P
[12:39] <cherry_blossom> it was a joke
[12:39] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Huh?
[12:39] <BHSPitMonkey> I know ^^
[12:39] <cherry_blossom> but could someone figure out how to make emacs-gtk work on dapper?
[12:40] <atoponce> iptraf and iftop are kinda heading the right direction, but i need average loads
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: I gave you what you need to do in terminal...
[12:40] <lmosher> I'm working with an NTFS partition. I've unmounted it, changed some files around, and mounted it again. However, the file I deleted still shows up! How do i force a refresh?
[12:40] <narg> How would one modify a programs nice permanently? Obviously there is a way, since X does it ;)
[12:41] <psusi> lmosher, the ubuntu NTFS driver is read only... are you playing with something experimental?
[12:41] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I typed gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then what do I do?
[12:41] <overridden> ok, thx sethk; now trying to compile libgtk from source I got from the repo's
[12:41] <atoponce> darkstat also was getting close, but not quite
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Save a copy with a changed name
[12:41] <carl> Abst: well, it doesn't really help me. I'm after Mplayer plugins since gstreamer wont work for me...
[12:41] <mbd> i need some help getting ati fglrx driver to work.
[12:41] <nytemask> sup all, just installed unbuntu...and I have NO QUESTIONS
[12:41] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yea, I did, i backed it up
[12:42] <jdahm> is there a program available to view clients on a LAN/subnet?
[12:42] <lmosher> psusi, No. I -unmounted- it and deleted the file with Windows. However when i mount again the file is still there! It's not actually reading the stupid drive b/c I've definately deleted that file..
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Get back to the original xorg .. so you are not editing the backup by mistake
[12:42] <nytemask> someone recommend a good news reader with nzb support?
[12:42] <psusi> lmosher, you rebooted into windows, deleted it, rebooted back into ubuntu, and it is still there?
[12:42] <absolut> Anyone know how to change root password in ubuntu on a fresh install ? (or what's the default)
[12:42] <sethk> overridden, ok
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[12:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> !root > absolut
[12:42] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I'm on the original one, not the backup
[12:43] <absolut> !root
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: k... find "nv"
[12:43] <lmosher> psusi, No, I'm using VMware to access the drive natively. I'm sure rebooting would do the trick, but I'm hoping there's a way to refresh the drive...
[12:43] <absolut> ty
[12:43] <RedGlasses> I am a newbie to ubuntu and linux. can you recommend a book to have as a good reference?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> RedGhost,  theres a book out now thats just for ubuntu. :P
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !book
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about book - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> HAd to try
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> then about anything by the Oriealy guys is good.
[12:44] <psusi> lmosher, are you sure you have vmware configured to allow writes to the partition?  it's probably just faking it with copy on write
[12:44] <CNote> I am having issues getting my ipw3945 wireless card to be recgognized, can anyone offer any assistance
[12:44] <johnnyg> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[12:44] <johnnyg> sudo: unable to lookup johnny-laptop via gethostbyname()
[12:44] <mbd> i need some help getting ati fglrx driver to work.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> 'using bash' by Orieialy is great also.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> RedGhost,  and check  TLDP.org
[12:44] <johnnyg> any sudo command I try to run gives me "gethostbyname()"
[12:44] <carl> Hmm... where is mplayers codec directory then?
[12:44] <magneticubuntu> hello world
[12:44] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  The only NV it finds is "NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"
[12:44] <overridden> sethk: the source tarball in libgtk+2.10.2 IS the same one as I installed from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources
[12:44] <crimsun> carl: /usr/lib/win32
[12:44] <overridden> sethk: So I did compile it
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: can you post your xorg to pastebin for me..
[12:44] <carl> crimsun: cheers
[12:45] <atoponce> no one knows of a gui network traffic monitor?
[12:45] <magneticubuntu> Guys: how can I check to see what devices are mounted? (I'm trying to determine if my pvr350 is mounted as /dev/video0 or /dev/video1
[12:45] <magneticubuntu> ?
[12:45] <carl> crimsun: but nope... no such directory
[12:45] <crimsun> carl: create it, then.
[12:45] <gunnar> !glx
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <gunnar> !xgl
[12:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:45] <crimsun> carl: or just install a w32codecs deb
[12:45] <lmosher> psusi, vmware does allow writes, but it maybe be caching or something, b/c in linux I can still actually play the file (it's a movie) so it's not there. I'll reboot vmware.
[12:46] <overridden> !gtk-config
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <magneticubuntu> Anyone can help me see what devices are mounted in ubuntu please?
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: I am thinking lower case nv
[12:46] <psusi> lmosher, you did shutdown the windows vmware session before mounting the partition again right?
[12:46] <magneticubuntu> ubotu: can you help?
[12:46] <overridden> magneticubuntu: mount
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about can you help? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  here I'll pastebin it, just a sec
[12:46] <lmosher> psusi, No I didn't. Probably not a great idea, but since linux is ro I didn't think it would matter.
[12:46] <magneticubuntu> mount doesnt show if video devices are mounted....
[12:46] <psusi> yea... that's kind of important... windows didn't bother writing to the disk yet
[12:47] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I searched for nv in lowercase, and I didn't check match case
[12:47] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22379
[12:47] <magneticubuntu> overridden, mount didnt show it
[12:47] <magneticubuntu> i'm no looking for drives i'm looking for my video device
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: checking now
[12:47] <lmosher> psusi, hrm ok vmware is down, but the file -still- shows up when I mount it. I guess I can copy all the files I want to a different folder.
[12:48] <crimsun> overridden: what are you attempting to compile
[12:48] <overridden> eventually I wanne try gIDE
[12:48] <psusi> lmosher, start vmware back up and see if it's there in windows... after unmounting it of course
[12:48] <johnnyg> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[12:48] <johnnyg> sudo: unable to lookup johnny-laptop via gethostbyname()
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: something didnt go right in your install... the line that should have read nv says vesa...
[12:48] <psusi> lmosher, if it is, then vmware is configured to not actually allow writes to the device
[12:48] <magneticubuntu> nico_, is that you nico ppc?
[12:48] <lmosher> psusi, ok I'll check
[12:49] <magneticubuntu> guys>: how can i see where my video devices are mounted?
[12:49] <nico_> yes
[12:49] <psusi> vmware can intercept writes and save them seperately so the actual disk doesn't get messed up, but the vm thinks it is writing to the disk
[12:49] <magneticubuntu> nico_, :D
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: you can try to change 093 to "nvidia" but I think something else went wrong
[12:49] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: where your video devices are mounted or which device node that corespond to your video devices?
[12:49] <greg> hi i need help setting up my tunercard
[12:49] <lmosher> psusi, I can't say for certain that's not happening, but the disk file on my linux partition is quite small
[12:49] <magneticubuntu> nico_, hi :)
[12:50] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Could it be that I use the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[12:50] <magneticubuntu> BlueEagle, if my device is mounted as /dev/video0 or /dev/video1
[12:50] <psusi> lmosher, if all you did was delete a file it would be.... windows wouldn't write much to do that
[12:50] <greg> its detected but i cant get it to work
[12:50] <brian98> cnote: What manafacturer is the card?
[12:50] <PhibreOptix> Hayloo
[12:50] <psusi> lmosher, you should not have a seperate disk file if you want the vm to actually write to the disk
[12:50] <crimsun> overridden: that looks to use gtk1.2, which means you'd need libgnome-dev and
[12:50] <greg> hapuage
[12:50] <crimsun> overridden: s/and//
[12:50] <greg> however u spell it
[12:50] <psusi> lmosher, that seperate disk file is where vmware reroutes writes to instead of the real disk
[12:50] <phiber_optic> how do I change the icons??
[12:50] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: Those are device nodes and not mount points. As for which that goes where I am not certaind. udev is still a big mystery to me. Why do you need to know?
[12:51] <overridden> hmm, I'll try crimsun
[12:51] <CNote> brian98: Intel -- it's on a lenovo T60P laptop
[12:51] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: and are we talking about tv-cards or web cams here or graphic cards?
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: I havent messed with 64  but I have seen some odd problems from people with it...
[12:51] <lmosher> psusi, I don't see how that's possible. I've installed Office 2003 using vmware and the disk file is only 112kb
[12:51] <PhibreOptix> Is Ubuntu free?
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Your choice as to whether or not to make the change on that
[12:51] <magneticubuntu> BlueEagle, i'm trying to figure out if my pvr350 is /dev/video0 or /video1
[12:51] <lmosher> psusi, Plus, that file isn't there on reboot...
[12:51] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Hmm I may try installing the regular 32bit version then...
[12:51] <psusi> hrm.....
[12:52] <crimsun> PhibreOptix: Free to download, modify, and redistribute, yes.
[12:52] <CNote> brian98: the info I have found, it appeared that the cards should now possibly work with the kernels, and do not need additional compiling of the base drivers themselves
[12:52] <overridden> crimsun: btw, Ive allready installed and compiled gnome-build, Isnt that the same
[12:52] <overridden> ?
[12:52] <greg> PhibreOptix:duh
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: things like flash etc work in 32
[12:52] <mbd> how can i find what device instance my ati graphic card uses? i found "(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found" in /var/log/Xorg.9.log
[12:52] <JoseStefan> !tell PhibreOptix about free
[12:52] <crimsun> overridden: no idea
[12:52] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: ls -l /dev/video*
[12:52] <lmosher> psusi, That is, the file doesn't show up in windows. it's still there in LInux :/
[12:52] <Squee> I'm trying to set up a linux router, but this pc is a pentium mmx - 16 mb ram and seems to be too slow for everything.  Anyone have any good ideas on a distribution?
[12:52] <greg> how do i setup my tunercard?
[12:53] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: is any of the entries sym links that point to another file?
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Make the change if you dont mind so we can learn something...
[12:53] <vapermonkey00> is there a network monitor that i can c what people r dooning on my network?
[12:53] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yea, I'm going to reinstall
[12:53] <magneticubuntu> BlueEagle, thx
[12:53] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: and I am guessing that trial and error might be the easiest way to go. :)
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: try that edit first
[12:53] <lmosher> psusi, oops I take it back. after rebooting the vm the file is now gone for linux. Not sure why that was the procses I had to use, but I'll remember it I guess...
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: change vesa under nvidia card....
[12:53] <brian98> cnote: come back to me if your stuck with acx and having a problem. I've just spent the day on a friends machine getting his wireless connection working and it was 'supported' native
[12:53] <brian98> ;)
[12:53] <vapermonkey00> did u guys get my ?
[12:54] <CNote> brian98: i am kind of stuck right now...
[12:54] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell vapermonkey00 about u
[12:54] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Vesa to Nvidia? correct?
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[12:54] <brian98> cnote: Go on, what up?
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: CROSS YOUR FINGERS AND RESTART
[12:54] <BlueEagle> vapermonkey00: ubotu has sendt you a message that might explain the lack of respons.
[12:54] <greg> how do i setup my tunercard?
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Sorry for the caps
[12:54] <Raziekiel> lol here I go
[12:55] <Tonren> How do I format a Compact Flash card so that it is empty and read/writable?
[12:55] <greg> scantv cant find any channels
[12:55] <CNote> brian98: I've tried at one point compiling the ipw3945 drivers with the right ieee80211 drivers as well, but it always indicates it cannot find the device
[12:55] <vapermonkey00> okay i can do that
[12:55] <BlueEagle> vapermonkey00: as for monitoring networks snort might be useful.
[12:55] <CNote> brian98: there is nothing in dmesg that indicates it sees it, and I am not able to get the ipw3945 module to load,
[12:55] <vapermonkey00> what is a snort
[12:56] <greg> anyone?
[12:56] <overridden> cool crimsun, sethk it seems 2.10.2 is to new, 1.2 did the trick
[12:56] <nico_> mailbox ? what?
[12:56] <BlueEagle> vapermonkey00: however that might be best implemented on a hubbed network, not a switched one. :)
[12:56] <vapermonkey00> and wireless
[12:56] <sris> This is making me crazy :D Im not able to "dual boot" into windows from the grub menu. i've tried changing the access mode of the affected drives in bios, playing around with the map directive (which im not quiet sure of how it works). But eiter way it doesnt work. Anyone here good with stuff like this?
[12:56] <linuchsan> greg:what does dmesg say about your tv card?
[12:56] <mbd> how can i find what device instance my ati graphic card uses? i found "(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found" in /var/log/Xorg.9.log
[12:56] <BlueEagle> !info snort
[12:56] <ubotu> snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 347 kB, installed size 824 kB
[12:57] <brian98> cnote: ok
[12:57] <greg> it says tuner type not set
[12:57] <brian98> cnote: do you want to go down the ndiswrapper route?
[12:57] <whitehorseNtiger> How reliable has gparted got at resizing NTFS?
[12:57] <vapermonkey00> i dont have it incrypted and that is ok i just want to see who uses it and maby grant them access to it
[12:57] <CNote> brian98: is that really necesarry considering the drivers are sitting there...
[12:57] <BlueEagle> whitehorsentiger: I'd back it up before starting. I've heard several people having issues after gparted and qtparted resized their ntfs partitions.
[12:57] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  It worked! Got the nvidia splash screen
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool
[12:58] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: hello again :) I think I have the cause I can't compile with wireless enabled... If I see /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15drivers/net/wireless I have a directory called ACX, but that is not in linux-source-2.6.17
[12:58] <BlueEagle> whitehorsentiger: so, according to this figure i just made up it will work flawlessly in about 80% of the cases.
[12:58] <linuchsan> greg:what is the tv-card vendor
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Feel better now?
[12:58] <CNote> brian98: I manually loaded the module with modprobe, but when I try to start the ipw3945 daemon I get an error that the connection cannot be found
[12:58] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yes =D
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Anything else you need?
[12:59] <greg> vendor?
[12:59] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: is linux-source-2.6.17 incomplete? do I have to download any sources more to get acx?
[12:59] <Raziekiel> hehe well now I'm going to work on changing my resolution. I want to set it to 1280*1024
[12:59] <CNote> brian98: i am open to suggestions and assistance at this point
[12:59] <BlueEagle> hexion: Then you might need to patch your kernel source tree to get the driver. Check the manufacturer for a driver for the network card. As for upgrading to packages not in the repositories they are mainly unsupported.
[01:00] <brian98> cnote: I dunno - I just know that it works - I've been playing with native drivers all day - and acx and ndiswrapper worked in 5 minutes
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: system - preferences-screen res
[01:00] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: how do I do that?
[01:00] <BlueEagle> hexion: how you check the manufactureres website for a driver?
[01:00] <CNote> brian98: may I ask for assitance with that?
[01:00] <sris> please, i would be so greatful if anyone could point me in the right direction on this one.
[01:00] <BlueEagle> hexion: I guess you open a web browser and go there. :)
[01:00] <linuchsan> greg:what kind of tv card
[01:00] <brian98> cnote: course
[01:00] <BlueEagle> hexion: also; are you sure you need to upgrade your kernel?
[01:00] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: you reffer on going to www.ali.com in example?
[01:00] <brian98> cnote: do you have windows 2000/xp drivers?
[01:00] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  It only has up to 1024*768
[01:01] <CNote> I can get them...
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> let me look at your xorg again.
[01:01] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: I think I need to learn someday :)
[01:01] <greg>  Hauppauge WinTV
[01:01] <brian98> cnote: just want to check something first
[01:01] <BlueEagle> hexion: If they made your network card that might be a good idea. If you don't find anything there then sourceforge might be a good place to look. If all else fails google is your friend.
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Ok, since it was vesa you ended up at that res... back to terminal for you my friend
[01:01] <BlueEagle> hexion: still, are you sure that you absolutely need to upgrade your kernel?
[01:02] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: ok, I'll search the net :)
[01:02] <BlueEagle> hexion: oh yes, your sata was borkalized.
[01:02] <linuchsan> greg:the bttv driver?
[01:02] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: yes, that is :)
[01:02] <whitehorseNtiger> I have access to an XP box at work that is oddly formatted with FAT32.  If I install Ubuntu, how do I change grub so that windows boots by default.
[01:02] <brian98> cnote: can you see the card and it doesn't work?
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Here is what my nvidia 6600 can use  Modes		"1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480
[01:02] <greg>  bttv0: using: Hauppauge (bt878)
[01:02] <CNote> brian98: as of right now it's like the card isn't there at all
[01:02] <Telarian02> Hello all, I tried this fix, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1114757&postcount=31, for a linksys pcmcia wireless card and then I rebooted the laptop now on kernel 2.6.15-26 i log on it has a black screen for 15 seconds and I'm back at the login screen and can never log in....any ideas?
[01:02] <BlueEagle> hexion: Have you concidered downgrading the kernel instead of attempting to upgrade to .17? (ie. was this an issue before .15?)
[01:02] <boricua> !skype
[01:02] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:02] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: and how about just copying acx directory from 2.6.15 to 2.6.17? can it work?
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: add the res you want under each color depth
[01:03] <sris> !grub
[01:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:03] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: yes, I am going to try that too
[01:03] <brian98> cnote: can you type sudo lsmod | grep acx
[01:03] <Raziekiel> Alright, all I plan to run is 1280*1024, so I'll add it in
[01:03] <brian98> and tell me the result
[01:03] <whitehorseNtiger> thanks
[01:03] <BlueEagle> hexion: I would hardly think that it would work just copying the directory verbatim.
[01:03] <CNote> brian98: looks like that module is not loaded
[01:03] <brian98> ok
[01:04] <BlueEagle> hexion: still, desperate times calls for desperate means. (even though you've probably got a different makefile on .15 and .17 so I'd check them for differences.
[01:04] <brian98> cnote: have you got the 2000/xp driver yet?
[01:04] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: ok, then I copy the dir, delete .o files, and compile to try
[01:04] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: thanks a lot :)
[01:04] <BlueEagle> hexion: also check the makefile(s)
[01:04] <brian98> and can you remove the native driver/mod
[01:04] <phiber_optic> how can I change the icons?
[01:04] <CNote> brian98: standby
[01:04] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: ok, I'll check them :)
[01:04] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow: what was that command you gave me to edit it, the gksudo one
[01:05] <HeXiOn> bye
[01:05] <greg> why wont my tunercard work:(
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  from a terminal
[01:05] <BlueEagle> hexion: ie: diff /usr/src/linux-2.6.15/makefile /usr/src/linux-2.6.17/makefile or something like that
[01:05] <aburton> I'm still having problems with my sound
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: write it down, you will use it again...
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: and again
[01:06] <Raziekiel> Yea, I just got some paper lol
[01:06] <brian98> cnote: are you working on the box now?
[01:06] <aburton> unless I duplicate the front channels, I only get sound out of my center speaker and sub
[01:06] <brian98> cnote: or are you on a different pc?
[01:06] <aburton> and if I duplicate the front channel, I can't control it with the master volume
[01:07] <CNote> brian98: i will be away for a few minutes, will you be on for a while, and we can get back to this, my apologies
[01:07] <brian98> no worries
[01:07] <CNote> thank you
[01:07] <brian98> send me a private message if I'm away and it will beep
[01:07] <greg> can someone help me get my tunercard to work?
[01:07] <sris> Could someone explain grub's "map" directive to me, because im not sure i understand it really.
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> sris,  http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#map
[01:08] <Linux-Mania> can i install KDE from kubuntu-desktopCD to ubuntu
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> grub> map (hd0) (hd1)        grub> map (hd1) (hd0) ---------> swaps hd0 and hd1
[01:08] <sris> Dr_Willis: well, i've read that over and over again ;)
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> whats so hard about that?
[01:09] <Telarian02> could messing around with the acx drivers in /lib/firmware destabilize your kernel?
[01:09] <Ademan> all of the sudden i can't ssh (through GNOME) into my webserver, but i can do it through the console...
[01:09] <linuchsan> greg:what does lsmod say about tuner
[01:09] <sris> Dr_Willis: e.g. i dont understand why do it both ways
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> sris,  normally map is only needed to get windows to think its on the first hard drive
[01:09] <greg> lsmod|grep tv?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> sris,  do it one way.. then ya cant  get to the 2nd drive. :P
[01:09] <BlueEagle> linuchsan: if you've got kubuntu installed and want ubuntu just install the ubuntu-desktop meta package.
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> sris,   ya expected them to swap automaticially? heh
[01:10] <maple> KDE > gnome
[01:10] <sris> Dr_Willis: well, i dont know what i expect, that's the problem
[01:10] <Ademan> maple: HAH
[01:10] <sris> Dr_Willis: but it doesn't work ;)
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> sris,  depends on what you are trying to do.
[01:10] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: also sata+ide has got issues in grub.
[01:10] <sris> Dr_Willis: does it have anything to do with the root directive
[01:10] <linuchsan> greg:tuner
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> BlueEagle,  yes it does. :P
[01:11] <sris> Dr_Willis: im trying to dual boot ubunutu/windows, with windows on a sata drive and ubuntu on an ide drive
[01:11] <brian98> can someone point me in the correct direction of setting up 2 monitors so you can drag and drop windows between the monitors - using ati radeon card!
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> root directive sets where to find the initial files.
[01:11] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: I really hated that a couple of months ago. :/
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> sris,  you had windows installed and running on the sata befor installing ubuntu?
[01:11] <compengi> how to limit background per user
[01:11] <sris> Dr_Willis: yes
[01:11] <Telarian02> can anyone tell me why on kernel 2.6.15-26 when i boot my laptop and log on but it just takes me back to the login screen over and over again?
[01:11] <tizwonder> ubuntu has officially made linux easier to install than windows :x ;x ;x
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> sris,  and what is it doing wrong?
[01:12] <sris> Dr_Willis: if i pick windows from the grub menu, i get "Filesystem type unknown, parition type 0x7"
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> sris,  i noticed that ubuntus grub installer installs the boot loader to hda by default, which was not what drive i was bootin goff of.
[01:12] <sris> Dr_Willis: and i have to reboot with ctrl+alt+del
[01:13] <greg> http://pastebin.ca/159329
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> sris,  check your windows entry in grub  its possible its got the wrong hard drive in the entry
[01:13] <sris> Dr_Willis: checked it multiple times too. im pretty sure it's the right one
[01:13] <BlueEagle> 0x7?
[01:13] <aburton> ok, so I have two sata drives- one has 4 partitions (/home, /. swap and FAT32) and the other has two partitions (windows and fat32) but when I installed ubuntu amd64 it didn't include windows in the grub menu.lst You can see what I have here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22387 Whenever I try to boot into windows, it gives me a "filesystem unknown" error. What's  with?
[01:13] <greg> can i update tunercard drivers or somtin to fix it?
[01:13] <sris> Dr_Willis: accroding to the devices.map-file
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> sris,  i had my device.map file be WRONG for my default ubuntu install. :P
[01:13] <compengi> how to limit background per user
[01:14] <sris> Dr_Willis: oh, how can i check that?
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> cat /boot/grub/device.map
[01:14] <BlueEagle> 0x7 should be ntfs iirc
[01:14] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Thanks mate! Got the new resolution =D
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> double check and be sure they are pointing to where your menu.lst is thinking they should be,
[01:14] <linuchsan> greg:modinfo bttv
[01:14] <sris> Dr_Willis: that's the file i meant?
[01:14] <eternalswd> anyone know of an xchat build for ubuntu that has the dccserver patch included?
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: HAd me worried for a sec
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Glad everything is working...
[01:15] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yep, installing BitchX now, I don't like gaim for IRC. Also, Do I need to install motherboard drivers?
[01:15] <sris> Dr_Willis: According to that file, it's the right drive in menu.lst
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> People. it has been fun, enjoy your weekend. I'm outta here....
[01:16] <dibblego> after spending several hours trying to get nvidia to work unsuccessfully, I figured i'd try on a fresh 6.06.1 install to no avail; apt-get install nvidia-glx, nvidia-xconfig, restart X fails - 'failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) ... Fatal server error: no screens found" -- is it possible to get the nvidia driver to work?
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: You should not... I like knoversation... but those are personal choices...
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> konversation
[01:16] <greg> http://pastebin.ca/159330
[01:16] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I'm used to mIRC or telnet, thats all I've ever used
[01:17] <sris> Dr_Willis: I've tried to do some googling on the issue, and found some people with similar problems, and someone suggested changing the access mode on the drives in bios to LBA/Large, and not auto. But that didn't do it for me
[01:17] <omnid> horrible
[01:17] <omnid> my wifi device just stopped functioning
[01:17] <omnid> what the hell
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: I was used to mirc myself
[01:17] <BHSPitMonkey> tragic
[01:17] <omnid> It's not the wifi device itself
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> sris,  dont be tryin things at random. :P trouble shoot the issue. Heh.. let me paste my configs to pastebin for ya to look at.
[01:17] <omnid> Somehow Ubuntu just 'forgot' it exists
[01:17] <sris> Dr_Willis: ehe, ok. thanks
[01:17] <dibblego> !nvidia > dibblego
[01:17] <linuchsan> greg:and dmesg, all the messages please
[01:18] <nehoksan> hi
[01:18] <nehoksan> is ubuntu better than debian?
[01:18] <sris> Dr_Willis: it's just annoying, my first linux install ever, and i dont want something like this to ruin it ;)
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> sris,  ive had issues with the update-grub script being incorrect in how it does a few things.. However i do NOT boot off my sata drives.
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> sris,  http://pastebin.com/782355
[01:18] <phiber_optic> how can i change specific icons such as firefox etc etc
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> sris,  sata is a not quite there yet standard.
[01:18] <BHSPitMonkey> phiber_optic, right click on the link, go to Properties...
[01:19] <nehoksan> is ubuntu better than debian?
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> sris,  linux is working however. :P
[01:19] <Homer> hello
[01:19] <sris> Dr_Willis: i see, well, it's a good thing im still able to boot from the sata drive directly though ;)
[01:19] <greg> http://pastebin.ca/159332
[01:19] <Homer> is there a automatic way to update from version 5.10 to versio 6.06
[01:19] <Homer> ?
[01:19] <phiber_optic> BHSPitMonkey, yeah i did that but I think it chooses from the icon package
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> sris,  ive also got a motehrboard where i can hit F11 and get a boot menu - that lets me select what hard drive to boot. with it. i can boot straight off the windows drive without going into grub first.
[01:19] <ompaul> !upgrade
[01:19] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[01:19] <BHSPitMonkey> nehoksan, strictly speaking, you can't call one distro "better" than another. informally speaking, yes, ubuntu is better for the end-user than debian is.
[01:19] <Homer> cool
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> sris,  i did it that way for months.. then onlyu recently got grub to work more 'normal' :P
[01:20] <ompaul> Homer, be warned if you have used automatix or altered the distro it will most likely break
[01:20] <sris> Dr_Willis: ah, if i had that it would be that much of a problem
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> sris,  i sort of perfer the F11 menu. that way Linux was totally hidden from others.
[01:20] <sris> Dr_Willis: hehe, as it is now i have to enter bios and change the order manually
[01:20] <nehoksan> thx BHSPitMonkey
[01:20] <ompaul> !samba > Gumby
[01:20] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I downloaded the bitchx source and installed it in Synaptic Package manager. But how do I run it? lol
[01:21] <BHSPitMonkey> yeah, Gumby. printer sharing seems to suck in dapper.
[01:21] <ompaul> Gumby, that is a basic setup the bot just told you about
[01:21] <maple> is it possible to run ubuntu on the 1.0 version of the linux kernel?
[01:21] <BHSPitMonkey> definitely not as easy as it should be.
[01:21] <killown> how I add full support the non-free programs?
[01:21] <richiefrich> Gumby what are the other pc's running?
[01:21] <killown> how I add full support the non-free programs in source.lst??
[01:21] <richiefrich> Gumby  if all linux cups is easy
[01:21] <phiber_optic> BHSPitMonkey, where are all icons located?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> sris,  most grub issues ive had/seen is just confusion about the ordering/naming of the drives
[01:21] <sris> Dr_Willis: just asking to be sure. which file did you have to alter. the devices.map?
[01:21] <BHSPitMonkey> phiber_optic, you might need to go and download a firefox icon.
[01:21] <ompaul> maple, if you recompile all the apps and remove lots functionality maybe
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> sris,  lik eusing (hdo) when ya mean (hd0,0) and so on.
[01:21] <compengi> how to limit background per user
[01:21] <maple> ompaul, cool
[01:22] <Gumby> richiefrich: windows client ubuntu server.  I already have samba setup but the printer isnt showing up on the client side.
[01:22] <TehBlackSharpie> anyone know of a good clone of AIM for linux?
[01:22] <richiefrich> Gumby then that samba
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> sris,  my devices.map had a drive on like hd3, when in fact it was hd2 according to the menu.lst
[01:22] <ompaul> maple, that reads as no - I was being ... ironic
[01:22] <phiber_optic> BHSPitMonkey, ok ill do that
[01:22] <killown> I cannot install nautilus-media with apt-get why?
[01:22] <BHSPitMonkey> TehBlackSharpie, uhh, gaim...
[01:22] <Gumby> richiefrich: and I already have cups for linux sharing.
[01:22] <compengi> Gumby you need to install a driver for the printer
[01:22] <Gumby> compengi: no I dont.  The printer is already working fine
[01:22] <ompaul> maple, the hardware support would not be there it would drive you mand
[01:23] <TehBlackSharpie> yeah, I have gaim but it doesn't support some of the features that AIM has
[01:23] <richiefrich> Gumby is the driver instaled on windows
[01:23] <Gumby> compengi: the problem is that the clients arent seeing it.
[01:23] <Gumby> richiefrich: yes it is
[01:23] <aburton> what is wrong with my menu.lst? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22390
[01:23] <sris> Dr_Willis: ah ok.. another thing that confused me was that i read that you should be able to toggle the different device-names in the grub shell.
[01:23] <richiefrich> Gumby ok then
[01:23] <BHSPitMonkey> TehBlackSharpie, then try kopete. otherwise, you're stuck.
[01:23] <Gumby> richiefrich: the client doesnt even see the printer so even at this point a driver is pointless
[01:23] <BHSPitMonkey> I prefer gaim.
[01:23] <cliffd> any ideas. I have 1 hard drive that will detect in the bios and the post, but when I boot fdisk does'nt see it?
[01:23] <maple> ompaul, no one needs more than a 486
[01:23] <TehBlackSharpie> ok, thanks
[01:23] <sris> Dr_Willis: but i tried e.g. root (hd0,"tab" and it says that "drive doesnt exist"
[01:23] <aburton> I can't boot into windows. It gives me a "filetsystem unknown" error. what is wrong with my menu.lst? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22390
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> sris,  the grub shell can do all sorts of things.. the menu.lst is basicially a list of commands the shell runs.
[01:23] <richiefrich> Gumby well i was just checkin. it might be windows. what ver?
[01:24] <Gumby> richiefrich: XP Home.  GF;s lappy
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> sris,  you perhaps had a space in the wrong place, or dident  do somthing else quite right.
[01:24] <maple> LOL, konqueror just crashed going to microsoft.com
[01:24] <sris> Dr_Willis: i just thought it was odd, the "disc doesnt exist" error
[01:24] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:24] <sris> Dr_Willis: probably
[01:24] <killown> I cannot install nautilus-media with apt-get why?
[01:25] <NullVector> can someone help me sound in games? when I Launch Americas Army I have no sound
[01:25] <greg> its not one one of sources
[01:25] <greg> on ure source list
[01:25] <maple> does microsoft.com crash anyone else's konqueror?
[01:25] <killown> I want full support in apt-get what I do?
[01:25] <frisb> anyone got ATI drivers 8.26.18 working with Radeon X1300?
[01:25] <sris> Dr_Willis: dont you need any "map" directives in you menu.lst file?
[01:26] <richiefrich> Gumby :\ i was hoping for a win2k :P
[01:26] <aburton> anyone? please?
[01:26] <sris> Dr_Willis: dont you need any "map" directives in you menu.lst file?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> sris,  yea - if the names are not right.. it dont exist. :P
[01:26] <Gumby> richiefrich: I could only wish
[01:26] <killown> anyone helpme
[01:26] <greg> killown: find the ultimate source list
[01:26] <cliffd> how do I get console msgs ? my glxgears isnt out putting anything and I dont know why. maybe its going to console?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> sris,  no. thats ONLY to swap the order of the drives.. which i do not see why you are needing to do that at all.
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> sris,  at one time windows HAD to be on the first hard drive.. you could put iot on the 2nd hd and 'swap' the 2 with grub to get around the limit
[01:27] <sris> Dr_Willis: hehe, that was kind of what should've asked the first time
[01:27] <richiefrich> Gumby i was wishing too :P
[01:27] <sris> Dr_Willis: but i've read it of the net ;)
[01:27] <kairu0> whenever i switch to a virtual terminal or exit X to return to gdm, everything just goes blank on the screen. any ideas?
[01:27] <sethk> illusia-ru, ping
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> sris,  you got sata and ide - and with XP its not the same problem it used to be.
[01:27] <killown> greg where I found it?
[01:27] <Raziekiel> Does wine work on 64bit ubuntu
[01:28] <sris> Dr_Willis: ok, i haven't even thought of it. but actually the map commands were allready in my menu.lst file. so i will try to remove them ;)
[01:28] <greg> to edit your source list its at etc/apt/sources.list
[01:28] <macdo> cliffd: use this command: "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[01:29] <richiefrich> Gumby  have you look at this ? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/sharing_with_windows.html
[01:29] <Gumby> richiefrich: unfortunately yes
[01:29] <richiefrich> Gumby your config my be perfect idk
[01:29] <richiefrich> Gumby :(
[01:29] <richiefrich> Gumby it might not be linux now..
[01:29] <Gumby> it seems that samba isnt showing the printers
[01:29] <VHockey86_server> Is there no webmin package for dapper?
[01:29] <gunnar> !xgl
[01:29] <sris> Dr_Willis: thanks for beeing so helpful, reboot time is here ;)
[01:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:29] <Gumby> could be a samba config also
[01:30] <richiefrich> Gumby it might be that windows is being gay
[01:30] <richiefrich> Gumby that does happen :P
[01:30] <aburton> Dr_Willis:: You seem to know something about grub... I have two sata drives- one has 4 partitions (/home, /. swap and FAT32) and the other has two partitions (windows and fat32) but when I installed ubuntu amd64 it didn't include windows in the grub menu.lst You can see what I have here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22387 Whenever I try to boot into windows, it gives me a "filesystem unknown" error. What's  with?
[01:30] <Gumby> richiefrich: I just checked from my laptop and the add printer wizard sees the smb daemon on the server but no printers are listed in it
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  sounds identical to sris 's problem
[01:30] <richiefrich> Gumby o.O hm
[01:31] <aburton> I thought he had one sata and one ide?
[01:31] <aburton> and map commands? I don't know what those are
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  check your  /boot/grub/menu.lst  and   /boot/grub/device.map   be sure they are actually pointing to the right drives and not 'naming' them  differntly
[01:31] <bill__> what do you guys think of kubuntu?
[01:31] <MrFeetio> i want gaim to display what song rhythmbox is playing
[01:31] <phiber_optic> when i unzip a icon into the theme managaer where does it install it?
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  it lets you swap drives.. most likely NOT needed.
[01:32] <motin_> If you have any experience in troubleshooting sound on linux, please take a look at this:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249545 Appreciate all help!
[01:32] <maple> does microsoft.com crash anyone else's konqueror?
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  /usr/local/share most likely if as root..   or .themes (i think) as a user
[01:32] <phiber_optic> Dr_Willis thats whta i thought
[01:32] <phiber_optic> cant find the folder or something like that
[01:33] <greg> can someone help me get my tunercard to work?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> greg,  and what tv tuner card ya got?
[01:33] <aburton> Dr_Willis: (hd0)   /dev/sda   (hd1)   /dev/sdb
[01:33] <Roh81> hello all.
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  and what one of those is windows partition? :)
[01:34] <maple> does microsoft.com crash anyone else's konqueror?
[01:34] <aburton> Dr_Willis: hd1
[01:34] <linuchsan> Gumby:can you post your smb.conf?
[01:34] <sris> :/ no luck
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  so which partition on hd1 is the windows partition?
[01:34] <aburton> the first one
[01:34] <greg> wintv go-plus
[01:35] <Roh81> x_x Really wierd to come into a chat room like this and have no clue what anyone is talking about.
[01:35] <sris> this makes me so sad..
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  so hd1,0 is the windows partition.. now.. has windows always been on that one? or did you install it. then move the hard drives?
[01:36] <aburton> I had both drives wiped, and I installed on the second disk
[01:36] <aburton> but it needed to copy files onto the machine
[01:36] <aburton> to install
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  you mean the raid drivers?
[01:36] <aburton> no
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> or sata drivers for windows?
[01:36] <aburton> no, just installation files
[01:36] <aburton> it copied them over before they installed
[01:36] <aburton> but onto the first drive
[01:37] <Roh81> Would this be the place to come for help if your a complete newbie?
[01:37] <greg> yes
[01:37] <richiefrich> sure
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  you had both drives empty, then  installed windows to the 2nd hd.. and it (what It?) copied what instalation files to the first drive?
[01:37] <Gumby> linuchsan: sure, one sec
[01:37] <Raziekiel> cd /usr/lib32
[01:37] <Raziekiel> er ignore that plz
[01:37] <richiefrich> Raziekiel lol wrong windows :P
[01:37] <Roh81> Well I plan on reading up on alot of things but first I was hoping for some help getting a few small things working.
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> all this grub/sata issues - remind me of why i use my 2 ide drives for the OS and the satas for data.
[01:38] <absinthius> Anyone know of any programs that you can connect to ventrilo servers with?
[01:38] <richiefrich> Roh81 which are ?
[01:38] <aburton> Dr_Willis: ok, so I installed onto the second drive, but it said " in order to install, windows needs to copy files over to the first drive" or something like that.
[01:38] <Roh81> First I need to get to where I can read ntfs partitions. Just read.
[01:38] <sris> Dr_Willis: it's nice with sata for oses too ;)
[01:38] <cliffd> anyone know why my glxgears would not output frame count?
[01:38] <|DrV> glxgears -showfps
[01:38] <richiefrich> Roh81 ok what /dev ?
[01:38] <aburton> Dr_Willis: it = windows installer
[01:38] <cliffd> |DrV: thanks much
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  odd..  any reasons you wanted windows on the 2nd drive?
[01:39] <Roh81> A lot of terms arent going to make sense to me without explination. Im a total newb to linux.
[01:39] <|DrV> wait, that's wrong, hold on :)
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  it may of been refering to the boot loader.
[01:39] <richiefrich> Roh81  and where do you want it mounted?
[01:39] <|DrV> -printfps
[01:39] <cliffd> |DrV: how are you getting the command switches for glxgears? i tried --help -? nothing worked for me
[01:39] <aburton> Dr_Willis: yeah, so if something happened to one drive, I'd still have an OS
[01:39] <Roh81> Rich can I PM you? The text in here is distracting.
[01:39] <richiefrich> Roh81   the hard drive is know as a  device
[01:39] <sris> Dr_Willis: i think im just gonna stick with windows and by a macbook instead ;)
[01:39] <VladimirBG> hey
[01:39] <|DrV> cliffd, i just did strings `which glxgears`
[01:39] <CokeNCode> ok guys, getting hell with an saa7134 tv tuner card for hte last couple months
[01:39] <richiefrich> Roh81   yes
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  but why not put windows on the first drive?
[01:39] <CokeNCode> for hte love of God ... help please
[01:39] <frogzoo> !docs > Roh81
[01:40] <aburton> Dr_Willis: no reason
[01:40] <cliffd> |DrV: what is strings?
[01:40] <Gumby> linuchsan: http://rafb.net/paste/results/LbzphE36.html  smb.conf is there
[01:40] <greg> can i run windows 98 in vmware on ubuntu?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> sris,  or get some more ide drives. :P I got 6 in one of my machines
[01:40] <frogzoo> greg: of course
[01:40] <|DrV> cliffd, it's part of binutils which just prints out human-readable strings from an arbitrary file
[01:40] <sris> Dr_Willis: im phasing out the ide drives from this box ;)
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  you may be better off putting windows on the first hd. it just Perfers to be on the first drive.
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> sris,  bah! :P
[01:40] <cliffd> |DrV: nice. I still get nothing
[01:40] <greg> how do i get vmware? apt-get install vmware?
[01:40] <rev11> ugh. im trying to intall this again and i selected the vesa driver for my monitor, but this time it just goes to blank screen
[01:40] <sris> Dr_Willis: i've already got 4 ide drives in it ;)
[01:41] <aburton> Dr_Willis: and how would I go about doing that?
[01:41] <frogzoo> !fixres > rev11
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> sris,  yep my fileserver is the same.. + 2 ide controller cards. :P
[01:41] <macdo> cliffd: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:41] <macdo> no joke!
[01:41] <|DrV> yeah, that will work too
[01:41] <|DrV> but -printfps works fine for me
[01:42] <cliffd> macdo: crazy. it works
[01:42] <sris> Dr_Willis: nice, well, that's it for today, need more food or something to find the strenght to keep on resolving this
[01:42] <Zunino> Could anybody tell me how does one go about stopping the "Software Updates" monitor from notifying about a particular package? I removed the packages gaim and gaim-data which come pre-installed and installed a newer Gaim from a .deb file. But the notifier won't stop telling me there are updates available.
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  reinstall windows to the first hd perhaps?
[01:42] <sris> Dr_Willis: thanks for everything ;)
[01:42] <cliffd> macdo: thanks
[01:43] <macdo> no prob - but did it work?
[01:43] <aburton> Dr_Willis: not a chance. I'm not installing windows after ubuntu. I've done it before, and it's a mess to fix
[01:43] <cliffd> |DrV: no -printfps works also thanks for that and for strings! :)
[01:43] <cliffd> macdo: yeah it did. and it also made -printfps work after I did the glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:43] <phiber_optic> does anybody knows where does the icons go when u dragg it directly into the themes? I mean it what directory
[01:43] <VladimirBG> Does anyone know how to fix inverted colours in movies? I've installed the latest fglrx(also tried one from the repository same result) and that's whan the colours got messed up...
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  actually its not a mess to fix. :P if ya know your grub fu.
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  you got ubuntu installed where exactly?
[01:44] <aburton> (hd0,0)
[01:44] <easytiger> anyone here use opera? do you have problems with skins and the menubar?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  so youve basicially put things in the worse order. :P heh.
[01:45] <illusia-ru> easytiger, no
[01:45] <HeathenDan> what kind of problems with skins and menubars?
[01:45] <killown> greg where I found it?
[01:45] <easytiger> nothing like this then? http://belfast.no-ip.info/apache2-default/operathing.png
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  by installing ubuntu on hd0, AFTER installing windows to hd1, where wundows installer then 'copied some files over' may of confused windows.
[01:45] <killown> where  I find the ultimate source.list?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
 see the image for best explanation. the mnu bar at the top doesn't seem to skin exceptt for the text itself
[01:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:46] <aburton> Dr_Willis: I'll see if I can repair the installation
[01:47] <killown> thanks
[01:47] <aburton> thanks
[01:47] <greg> can someone give me a link to a tutorial on ubuntu vmware?
[01:47] <Flannel> !tell greg about vmware
[01:47] <Zunino> How to stop the software updates reminder from advertising updates available for a version of Gaim older than the one I have installed?
[01:48] <HeathenDan> nope
[01:48] <HeathenDan> have you tried restarting opera? or perhaps choosing another skin and going back to that black one?
i just spent today installing it if you have any questions
[01:48] <Zunino> Is it possible to selectively turn off reminders for specific packages?
 its every skin. it also happens in kde
[01:48] <Knelix> Hello guys.
[01:49] <HeathenDan> opera-shared or opera-static?
[01:49] <VladimirBG> Does anyone know how to fix inverted colours in movies? I've installed the latest fglrx(also tried one from the repository same result) and that's whan the colours got messed up...
 not sure.. i was just about to redownload
[01:50] <HeathenDan> well, when i have problems with the menubar and skins, i just change skins and go back... it ought to fix the problem
[01:50] <Knelix> Problems with xmame again... I started it up, ocrrected the game directory and it worked perfectly.. then all of a sudden, after I changed screen res, it showed no available games. I've switched back the res, quit the app, rebooted, double-checked the paths, and nothing... it just seems to have stopped working without reason... what on Earth could be happening here?
 well i've changed the skin a lot. happens on default skin too
[01:51] <phiber_optic> does anybody knows where does the icons go when u dragg it directly into the themes? I mean it what directory
[01:52] <Dekkard> is it time to upgrade to edgy?
[01:52] <HeathenDan> i'm changing skins as we speak. but i don't have kde and im using opera-static
[01:53] <HeathenDan> wait for the official release like the rest of us
[01:53] <yango> how do you create a special device? (I plugged in a external USB drive, and want to know what's the manual way to do the mounting... I know how to mount when the device exists (pmount /dev/foo) but how do I create /dev/foo from the USB plugged device?)
 where can i get opera-static?
[01:53] <VladimirBG> Does anyone know how to fix video playback issue with Ati's fglrx drivers?
[01:53] <HeathenDan> are you using system color scheme easytiger? what if you chose otherwise?
[01:54] <greg> easytiger: is it going to take me all night to install:(?
[01:54] <rev11> yea..
[01:54] <rev11> can anyone accually help me with this
[01:54] <kingpanga> hi
[01:55] <kingpanga> help pls
[01:55] <Knelix> Can anyone aid me with my xmame difficulties?
 ha. no its actually quite smooth now.
[01:55] <kingpanga> im working with knoppix  and i want to write on my hard drive using ubuntu but it is set to read only
 tried that too. is very odd. but i can only find a opera-shared package for ubuntu
[01:55] <rev11> the monitor still isnt working, its reallame and getting annoying. ive tried the resolution fix, running in vesa, and everything. it doesnt work.
[01:55] <HeathenDan> easytiger, wait, lemme look at my sources.list
 the only gotchas i had were with the sound
[01:56] <easytiger> but i just fixed that
[01:56] <linuchsan> kingpanga:su
[01:56] <CokeNCode> ok, i'm getting the following error 'cannot open capture device /dev/video0'
[01:56] <greg> ok
[01:56] <CokeNCode> anyone have any clue what could be causing that ?
[01:56] <CokeNCode> and how do i find out if that is the correct device for my saa7134
[01:56] <Codyman> is there a channel for edgy eft?
[01:56] <CokeNCode> and if it's not, how do i change it ?
[01:56] <Homer> ubuntu 6.06 can fit on a single CD-R?
[01:56] <CokeNCode> Homer, yes
[01:56] <BHSPitMonkey> yep
[01:57] <HeathenDan> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free <-- easytiger
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Codyman, #ubuntu+1
[01:57] <rev11> ucrapu more like it
 excellent.. i'll try that
[01:57] <VladimirBG> I have an issue with video playback, bad enough for me to change distro if I don't fix it...
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Homer, Dapper is awesome. Live and Install CD
[01:57] <davidf> Hi, I need help with install, 5.10 - Think HD is full. Install stopped, have shell, what cmd to show disk space, please?
[01:57] <davidf> HD is 2 Gig.
[01:57] <profoX`> VladimirBG: whats the issue
[01:57] <greg>  cd: command not found?
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> davidf, fdisk -ls
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> err "sudo fdisk -ls
[01:58] <davidf> Admiral_Chicago, thanks
?
[01:58] <kingpanga> linuchsan: file system read only
[01:58] <VladimirBG> after instaling fglrx driver on my laptop colours are inverted
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> it probablly wont fit on the HDD, ubuntu takes ~6 Gb
[01:58] <greg> cd /the/complete/path/to/the/folder/where/the/file/is/located
[01:58] <frogzoo> davidf: df
[01:58] <BHSPitMonkey> VladimirBG, that sounds really cool!
[01:58] <greg> says cd not found
[01:58] <greg> cd: command not found
[01:59] <rev11> no one else is having errors on installing? and having xserver not work
[01:59] <VladimirBG> profoX`, in multiple players including VLC and Totem
 what does?
[01:59] <|DrV> is there a 32-bit ncurses lib for amd64?
[01:59] <richard2> Good text program .... for images cool fonts etc?
[01:59] <frogzoo> VladimirBG: you sure the driver supports your card?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> greg, its may not have installed a shell by naw
[01:59] <profoX`> frogzoo: won't work -- df -h only works for partitions that are mounted
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> yet*
[01:59] <VladimirBG> yes, the brand new drivers
[01:59] <profoX`> VladimirBG: okay, *what* is the problem?
[01:59] <profoX`> not where :)
[02:00] <VladimirBG> profoX`, colours are inverted
[02:00] <linuchsan> kingpanga:what do you want to do?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> anyone use nicotine in here?
[02:00] <greg> how do i navigate using the terminal?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> greg: cd
 excellent call. that fixed it
[02:00] <greg> says cd: command not found
[02:00] <HeathenDan> what fixed it?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> greg: any bash temrinal will use cd
[02:00] <VladimirBG> profoX`, after instaling fglrx, and yes I need drivers to get 1200x800 on my laptop and for powermanagement
[02:00] <gnomefreak> terminal
[02:01] <profoX`> VladimirBG: did you try another video output?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> greg: what are you doing and what are you trying to do
[02:01] <greg> cept mine
[02:01] <greg> im tryn to instal vmware
[02:01] <VladimirBG> profoX`, opengl an Xv if that's what you mean
[02:01] <greg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[02:01] <profoX`> yes thats what i mean
 we shall need a bit more info :p
[02:01] <profoX`> VladimirBG: both have inverted video?
[02:01] <rev11> horray
[02:01] <VladimirBG> profoX`, yes
[02:01] <greg> im just folling that tut
[02:01] <gnomefreak> where are you tryin to cd to?
[02:01] <rev11> how to i get the GUI come back for the setup? what the command
[02:02] <ormandj> is it a known issue that the cds mailed via shipit originally had problems? mine never gets past 32% on the install, ever, it gets "stuck" although the mouse is still responsive
[02:02] <greg> cd /home/greg/desktop/vmware
[02:02] <ormandj> curious if it's just me (5.10 worked fine btw)
[02:02] <VladimirBG> profoX`, when using VESA drivers, all is godd except resolution and lack of power managment for Ati
[02:02] <gnomefreak> greg: cd ~/Desktop/vmware
[02:02] <easytiger> and you'r typing this into a terminal greg?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> greg: that doesnt work?
[02:02] <exs> I have a problem guys. I want to syncronise my sony ericsson phone (w810i) but I don't know how. I'd like to get all the text messages off of it.
[02:02] <greg> thnx that worked
[02:03] <profoX`> VladimirBG: and with the open source radeon driver? inverted colors too?
[02:03] <profoX`> or only with fglrx
[02:03] <omnid> I seem to be having the mesa issue
[02:03] <ciphex> hey guys
[02:03] <omnid> Hey you guys are talking about something similar it seems
[02:03] <rev11> ..
[02:03] <rev11> no one knows the command to restard the gui
[02:03] <rev11> gnome or whatever
[02:03] <VladimirBG> profoX`, only with fglrx
[02:03] <HeathenDan> yeah, i never got around to getting my SE phone to work with ubuntu
[02:03] <rev11> so i can continue the setup
[02:04] <Xenguy> rev11: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:04] <rev11> thank you
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ctrl-alt-backspace restarts x
[02:04] <VladimirBG> profoX`, but os ati doesn't detect my widescreen LCD screen
[02:04] <profoX`> VladimirBG: yea well.. its better to use fglrx anyway.. more features.. and faster
 thanks for the help
[02:05] <profoX`> whaat card did you have again VladimirBG ?
[02:05] <nytemask> anyone have any trouble with pan and .nzb files?
[02:05] <HeathenDan> np
[02:05] <VladimirBG> Ati Mobility Radeon X1300
[02:05] <kingpanga> linuchsan: i want to write on my hard drive but i cant --file system set to read only--
 did you run the reconfigure utility?
[02:05] <rev11> well it says starting gnome display failed
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> kingpanga: ntfs... should be read only
[02:05] <rev11> can anyone help with that?
[02:05] <profoX`> nytemask: Klibido (or sabnzbd) is better for big .nzb files and newsgroups.. Pan can't handle much
[02:05] <VladimirBG> easytiger, you mean aticonfig, yes I did
[02:05] <kingpanga> Jack_Sparrow: ubuntu
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> rev11, you probably have your X system installed incorrectly
[02:06] <nytemask> profox: thanks
[02:06] <rev11> thats what ive been working on for 3 hours
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> kingpanga: What format on the hard drive you are trying to writ to.?
[02:06] <rev11> and i think i get somewhere and then i dont
[02:06] <rev11> :P
[02:06] <ciphex> anybody know a good bit about sound config under Drake?
[02:06] <Telarian02> can anyone tell me why on kernel 2.6.15-26 when i boot my laptop and log on but it just takes me back to the login screen over and over again?
[02:06] <profoX`> nytemask: Klibido is easy to install, Sabnzbd is waaay better, but it's hard to install (you have to compile it yourself)
[02:06] <VladimirBG> profoX`, I have the Ati Mobility Radeon X1300, and the latest drivers
[02:06] <easytiger> d<VladimirBG>: no : pkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:06] <rev11> the ATI drivers dont work for setup apparantly, the vesa ones arnt working for me or something
[02:06] <rev11> gah
[02:06] <nytemask> profox: good to know. thanks for the heads up
[02:06] <kingpanga> Jack_Sparrow: ext3
[02:07] <kingpanga> i think
[02:07] <profoX`> nytemask: np
[02:07] <easytiger> d<VladimirBG>: edit : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <VladimirBG> easytiger, yesp dpkg-reconfi... yes I tried that too
[02:07] <omnid> How do I get the GUI installation of the radeon drivers
[02:07] <eklesp> can you run compiz without xgl ?
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kingpanga: Could you explain what you are trying to do .. in detail
[02:07] <profoX`> VladimirBG: i had an x700 that worked fine.. i tried searching google/launchpad too.. didnt come across your problem
 : i got a widescreen a few weeks ago.. took a bit of messing around. not sure exactly how it got sorted
[02:07] <bettsp> What's the Ubuntu Dev channel?
[02:07] <ciphex> im having a right horrible time trying to make the sound card work properly if anyone knows about sound setup please send me a PM
[02:08] <profoX`> eklesp: yes and no -- it doesn't need to be XGL, it can also be AIGLX
[02:08] <VladimirBG> profoX`,I found a few posts in beta dapper but no solutions...
[02:08] <kingpanga> Jack_Sparrow: im working with knoppix  and i want to write on my hard drive using ubuntu but file system set to read only
[02:08] <VladimirBG> profoX`, (beta dapper forum)
[02:08] <profoX`> VladimirBG: link?
[02:08] <VladimirBG> just a sec
[02:08] <profoX`> k
[02:08] <inco> i just installed the madwifi drivers and i can put it in monitor mode but when i start kismet it keeps saying FATAL: Failed to retrieve list of private ioctls 7:Argument list too long ive looked on google and i cant find anything helpful anyone have any suggestions?
[02:08] <greg> greg@greg-desktop:~/Desktop/vmware$ sudo ./install.pl
[02:08] <greg> sudo: ./install.pl: command not found
[02:08] <rev11> can ayone please please please please help me with this crap
[02:08] <greg> now what am i doing wrong?
[02:08] <rev11> xserver just doesnt like me
[02:08] <profoX`> ciphex: what kind of sound card? do you know if its PCI or ISA ?
[02:09] <something_else> people, wpa_supplicant seems to no longer support madwifi ... no wpa ... what can I do to solve this?
[02:09] <ciphex> it's a Creative Sound Blaster card that shipped in an older gateway
[02:09] <profoX`> rev11: GDM crashes over and over again? (after logging in?)
[02:09] <ciphex> it's a  PCI128
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> kingpanga: Let people know what is on the hard drive and what you are runing live and they will help... I dont have enough time atm
[02:10] <profoX`> rev11: look for errors in the file /var/log/gdm/:0.log -- in the terminal you can do it like this: less /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[02:10] <ciphex> i can't determin any specific name for it but i have the model #'s and shit.. googling hasn't helped
[02:10] <rev11> either there are no screens, or screens that arnt usable
[02:10] <rev11> thats as far as i get
[02:10] <kingpanga> ok thanks
[02:10] <MrMikey> Should some sort of config app come with alsa-utils?
[02:10] <exs> How do I synchornise my phones data (messages/contacts/etc) with ubuntu?.. does anyone know an app that can do this? I have a w810i sony ericsson.
[02:10] <kingpanga> HELP PLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:10] <greg> what am i doing wrong?
[02:11] <profoX`> rev11: ehm.. wait.. do you get the graphical login screen or not?
[02:11] <rev11> no
[02:11] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell kingpanga about shouting
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shouting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <ciphex> what i do know is that alsa see's it as an Ensonic AudioPCI
[02:11] <VladimirBG> profoX`, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163398&highlight=ati+movie+colours
[02:11] <StoneNote> greg go into your /Desktop/vmware/ directory and do a ls and put it in pastebin for me
[02:11] <kingpanga> im using knoppix  and i want to write on my hard drive using ubuntu but file system set to read only
[02:11] <rev11> x serv errors after all the mounting things, and then brings to prompt
[02:11] <rev11> im trying to install off cd
[02:11] <StoneNote> greg better yet do ls -l
[02:11] <eugman> What is gnomebaker a frontend for?
[02:11] <rev11> the ati thing clearly doesnt work, so i tried vesa
[02:11] <rev11> but then it just says no monitors for useable config
[02:12] <linuchsan> kingpanga:can you start a terminal
[02:12] <ciphex> and if i play with the Alsa util i can get audio to come out... but it's covered in static and unsolid
[02:12] <VladimirBG> profoX`, sorry bad link, this is the one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1018396&highlight=ati+movie+colours#post1018396
[02:12] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: so you want to remount a filesystem as read/write?
[02:12] <kingpanga> ok
[02:12] <greg> http://pastebin.ca/159356
[02:12] <zebedee> eugman:cd/dvd burning / creating
[02:12] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: did you investigate the manual page for mount?
[02:12] <ciphex> once on fresh install of Breezy Badger everything worked out of the box
[02:12] <profoX`> VladimirBG: oh ..ok
[02:12] <kingpanga> BlueEagle: how
[02:12] <ciphex> now it won't
[02:12] <rev11> so now im stuck
[02:12] <eugman> Zebedee, I mean what's the command line equivalent
[02:13] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: in a terminal type: man mount
[02:13] <ciphex> im running Dapper Drake
[02:13] <kingpanga> ok
[02:13] <StoneNote> greg ok, give me a second.
[02:13] <phiber_optic> how can I uninstall something in ubuntu?
[02:13] <greg> k lemme get my watch
[02:13] <zebedee> of that i have no idea sorry :-o
[02:13] <profoX`> VladimirBG: yea not many useful info there either
[02:14] <profoX`> VladimirBG: did you install fglrx from synaptic?
[02:14] <linuchsan> kingpanga:what does whoami say in a terminal?
[02:14] <StoneNote> greg it's vmware-install.pl not install.pl
[02:14] <profoX`> (or apt-get)
[02:14] <MrMikey> Hmm, ubuntu didn't find my soundcard automatically, where do I configure it to sort this?
[02:14] <phiber_optic> greg are u installing vmware?
[02:14] <inco> so for some reason kismet just wont run
[02:14] <ciphex> if you have any suggestions re: sound card config im all ears
[02:14] <Flannel> phiber_optic: apt-get remove [package] 
[02:14] <greg> bash: vmware-install.pl: command not found
[02:14] <VladimirBG> profoX`, I tryed both synaptic and the ones from ati's site(wich took a while to get working
[02:14] <profoX`> MrMikey: you can't -- they took out that option -- is it an ISA card?
[02:14] <rev11> no screens found, whaty does that mean!
[02:14] <rev11> im looking at one!
[02:14] <inco> greg ./vmware-install.pl
[02:14] <phiber_optic> Flannel, but if I compiled manually such as vmware?
[02:14] <MrMikey> profoX`, On board I think
[02:15] <profoX`> VladimirBG: both didnt work ?? i'd blame the proprietary driver then.. :(
[02:15] <greg> phiber_optic:im trying to
[02:15] <phiber_optic> greg me too
[02:15] <profoX`> VladimirBG: (of course, you already knew that)
[02:15] <StoneNote> greg are you in /Desktop/vmware? did you type in ./vmware-install.pl from the shell?
[02:15] <profoX`> VladimirBG: but i don't know what could cause it..
[02:15] <Flannel> phiber_optic: you delete all the files manually (unless the makefile had  a make remove or something similar provided)
[02:15] <MrMikey> profoX`, It's pretty new, and I could get it to work with alsaconf, but a quick google tells me ubuntu doesn't use alsaconf >.<
[02:15] <linuchsan> kingpanga:what does whoami say in a terminal?
[02:15] <greg> yay
[02:15] <Flannel> rev11: have you not restarted for a while, after upgrading a week ago?
[02:15] <phiber_optic> Flannel, how will i know where it installed?
[02:15] <VladimirBG> profoX`, however, SuSE 10.0 didn;t have any issues...(installed that one to try)
[02:15] <profoX`> MrMikey: yea they ripped that out of ubuntu.. it might come back sometime.. new soundcards are PCI mostly.. what does the output: lspci | grep Multimedia
[02:16] <rev11> im running a new install from the CD
[02:16] <profoX`> give you?
[02:16] <StoneNote> greg success?
[02:16] <rev11> brand new
[02:16] <rev11> nevber installed
[02:16] <profoX`> VladimirBG: thats strange..
[02:16] <kingpanga> linuchsan: knoppix
[02:16] <MrMikey> profoX`,  0000:00:10.2 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 AC97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[02:16] <rev11> i dont understand why it says no screens. its onlky this linux
[02:16] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: you're probably looking for: mount -o remount,rw /dev/devicenode
[02:16] <profoX`> VladimirBG: hard to say where the problem is.. latest fglrx + your card should work fine afaik
[02:16] <rev11> its stupid or something
[02:16] <Flannel> phiber_optic: by looking in the makefile, etc. You need to find out manually.  There is no way to easily do it.  unless the makefile has that option.  Hense the point of package management ;)
[02:17] <VladimirBG> profoX`, I've lost 2 weeks now banging my head on this one...
[02:17] <greg> ugh 500 page agreement
[02:17] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: where devicenode is the drive in question (ie hda3)
[02:17] <Flannel> rev11: which install CD? 6.06.1?
[02:17] <kairu0> rev11, well, so long as its onkly linux
[02:17] <rev11> yea
[02:17] <phiber_optic> oh ok
[02:17] <profoX`> VladimirBG: did you ever have it working ? (in breezy or something?)
[02:17] <rev11> funny guy
[02:17] <linuchsan> kingpanga:run su to become root
[02:17] <Flannel> kingpanga, linuchsan: no use sudo -s
[02:17] <VladimirBG> profoX`, no, the laptop is brand spanking new
[02:18] <profoX`> rev11: ehm.. wait.. do you get the graphical login screen or not?
[02:18] <rev11> no
[02:18] <Flannel> rev11: You'll be able to upgrade out of it.  Do you have a shell infront of you? (thats a prompt)
[02:18] <rev11> doesnt get that far
[02:18] <rev11> yea
[02:18] <VladimirBG> profoX`, Dell Inspiron 6400, dual core ati mob. x1300
[02:18] <linuchsan> Flannel:is not the issue
[02:18] <profoX`> rev11: whats the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[02:18] <rev11> im at the shell
[02:18] <Flannel> rev11: log in, type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:18] <profoX`> rev11: you can ignore things about wacom
[02:18] <ciphex> hehe profoX is busy today
[02:18] <profoX`> Flannel: thats not the problem -- its the install cd
[02:18] <eugman> Does gnomebaker act as a front for another program?
[02:18] <rev11> yea
[02:18] <profoX`> ciphex: lol.
[02:18] <rev11> im on the cd
[02:19] <rev11> let me try that profox
[02:19] <MrMikey> I got a load of wacom errors. I just went and deleted it all from xorg.conf :D
[02:19] <profoX`> VladimirBG: heavy machine though :) but you better got an nvidia :P
[02:19] <greg> yay
[02:19] <profoX`> MrMikey: wacom errors are "normal" -- you can ignore them
[02:19] <MrMikey> profoX`, X Wouldn't boot :(
[02:19] <MrMikey> load even
[02:19] <rev11> EE vesa no matching nodes
[02:20] <profoX`> MrMikey: now it does?
[02:20] <MrMikey> It's sorted now though
[02:20] <profoX`> rev11: modes*
[02:20] <MrMikey> Yeah
[02:20] <rev11> and screens found but none have useable config
[02:20] <zebedee> mornin is there a list 2 c if a pioneer dvd 105/ao5 is supported by d drake ? if so where  thx Z
[02:20] <VladimirBG> profoX`, well, I got this for just over 850 euros, including 3 years warrenty
[02:20] <profoX`> rev11: waht graphics card do you have?
[02:20] <rev11> ati x850 pro
[02:20] <kingpanga> BlueEagle: linuchsan: cant find /dev/devicenode in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:20] <HeathenDan> exs, read the comments here: http://contented.life.eu.org/articles/sony-ericsson-k750i-and-linux/
[02:20] <rev11> ive tried the ati drivers too but then it says no screens found
[02:20] <xKriemhildx> Asgre, ya viste cuanta gente?
[02:20] <greg> ok now how do i use vmware?
[02:20] <profoX`> zebedee: I don't nkow about a list -- but I guess its supported -- almost all (if not all) dvd burners are supported by linux -- i don't know about lightscribe
[02:20] <iJeffx> Does anyone here code C++?
[02:20] <ciphex> so im gonna go and see if i can't figure this out.... one little question profoX... is there a difference in hardware detection between the OEM install and the Text install methods?
[02:21] <patrick> is there a way to label a DPMS monitor is plugged in to the external dvi port so my laptop display doesnt show when i want to use the external monitor
[02:21] <linuchsan> kingpanga:what do you want to do?
[02:21] <profoX`> ciphex: I don't know that.. sorry
[02:21] <ciphex> cool
[02:21] <bwlang> zebedee: i'm not aware of any atapi cd or dvd devices that are not supported by the standard kernel...
[02:21] <ciphex> take it easy guys
[02:21] <xKriemhildx> Asgre,  
[02:21] <rev11> so im at a stand still why this isnt workin
[02:21] <StoneNote> greg you have the server and console loaded? (there the mui and perlapi too if you want them)
[02:21] <profoX`> ciphex: never tried the OEM install :)
[02:21] <bwlang> zebedee: your first name's not zoey is it?
[02:21] <mind21_98> hi.
[02:21] <kingpanga>  linuchsan: mount -o remount,rw /dev/devicenode
[02:21] <sid> With rhythmbox for debian I just go to edit/plugins to turn on the Album Art plugin. With Ubuntu though, there is no plugins choice for rhythmbox
[02:22] <Asgre> sip xKriemhildx o.o
[02:22] <rev11> what can i try ?
[02:22] <mind21_98> so...I installed xgl and I'm getting this in my .xsession-errors
[02:22] <VladimirBG> I'm at a total loss how ubuntu doesn;t like fglrx and my ati x1300
[02:22] <mind21_98> compiz.real: dlsym: /usr/lib/libmenu.so: undefined symbol: getCompPluginInfo
[02:22] <mind21_98> compiz.real: Failed to lookup getCompPluginInfo in 'libmenu.so' plugin
[02:22] <sid> How do I get the rhythmbox album art python plugin with dapper?
[02:22] <kingpanga> cant find   /dev/devicenode
[02:22] <profoX`> rev11: oh? so when you use radeon instead of vesa you still have then no screen modes error?
[02:22] <rev11> yea then it says No screens at all
[02:22] <profoX`> mind21_98: #xgl or #ubuntu-xgl
[02:22] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: you missed a line
[02:22] <killown> how I do to install nautilus-media in apt-get?
[02:22] <mitrovarr> I can't get a zd1211 wireless device to work.  I compiled the drivers and install the module, and it seems to load fine, but it doesn't form an interface when I insert the device.
[02:22] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: you're probably looking for: mount -o remount,rw /dev/devicenode
[02:23] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: where devicenode is the drive in question (ie hda3)
[02:23] <zebedee> desktop cant see it swopped drives old 1 ok swapped back new one not ok ??
[02:23] <mind21_98> profoX`: thanks
[02:23] <profoX`> np
[02:23] <zebedee> bllang: nope ;-)
[02:23] <rev11> i feel like i get further with the vesa, but regardless its stil not running gnome
[02:24] <greg> StoneNote:huh
[02:24] <VladimirBG> profoX`, do you have suggestion how to try and resolve this issue
[02:24] <greg> i just installed vmplayer
[02:24] <BlueEagle> greg: congrats!
[02:24] <bwlang> zebedee: are you sure the drive is good? does it get recognized by the bios? is there anything about it in the log (sudo grep hdc /var/log/dmesg)?
[02:25] <greg> no whow do i use it?
[02:25] <StoneNote> greg I haven't played with vmplayer in a while.  I use the vmware server and console so I don't think I'll be a lot of help here. perhaps someone in #vmware could help out
[02:25] <profoX`> VladimirBG: not really ... never heard of the problem before ...
[02:25] <phiber_optic> greg, how do i add an iso image into the vmware?
[02:25] <profoX`> VladimirBG: and I'm no expert in videodrivers :(
[02:25] <greg> i dunoo i just installed the thing
[02:25] <BlueEagle> greg: Did you attempt to read the manual?
[02:25] <greg> im tryn to figure out the same thing
[02:25] <sid> How do I get the latest rhythmbox with Ubuntu dapper?
[02:25] <rev11> is there anything i can set it to for the lowest of low settings for any monirot
[02:25] <rev11> monitor
[02:26] <greg> i temporaily forgot how to read
[02:26] <StoneNote> sid apt-get install rhythmbox
[02:26] <kingpanga> BlueEagle: thanks
[02:26] <BlueEagle> greg: Then how do you now what I'm writing?
[02:26] <kingpanga> BlueEagle: done
[02:26] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: np. :)
[02:26] <profoX`> rev11: try the "radeon" driver again, and then do: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[02:26] <greg> i just rembered
[02:26] <sid> StoneNote: But 0.9.5 isn't in dapper.
[02:26] <BlueEagle> greg: :D
[02:26] <profoX`> rev11: ignore the wacom things, but check if there are other errors
[02:26] <kingpanga> linuchsan: thank u
 why did you not install vmware server.. it's free?
[02:27] <sid> StoneNote: 0.9.5 is in debian sid.
[02:27] <profoX`> rev11: after chooding the radeon driver, restart X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart    and after that do the cat command i gave you
[02:27] <greg> i didnt kno  which one to pick
[02:27] <zebedee> fair point i will boot from a win 98 disk and have a look in dos
[02:27] <mitrovarr> nevermind, fixed it myself, looks like I have a zd1211b device.  I didn't know the interface wouldn't show up in ifconfig (but would still be up-able)
[02:27] <StoneNote> sid, it will be eventually. I guess you can get it from http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/
[02:27] <greg> vm player was free
[02:27] <StoneNote> greg so is server
[02:28] <recon0> When trying to compile the SVN of blackshades, I get the compile error "undefined reference to `alutInit'". Can anybody help me with this?
[02:28] <zebedee> oh yeh its not showing in autodetect in bios
[02:28] <killown> where I found repository of nautilus-media?
[02:28] <profoX`> VladimirBG: did you also try this ? I then had to go into xorg.conf and comment out the Load int10 line.
[02:28] <profoX`> VladimirBG: its from that forum
[02:28] <greg> yea i kno
[02:28] <BlueEagle> !info nautilus-media
[02:28] <ubotu> Package nautilus-media does not exist in any distro I know
[02:28] <greg> i just randomly piced one
[02:29] <rev11> II loading extention mit screen saver
[02:29] <VladimirBG> profoX`, I'll try, thanks
[02:29] <rev11> no devices found
[02:29] <killown> ahhhh
[02:29] <BlueEagle> killown: nautilus-media doesn't appear to be a package in any official repo.
[02:29] <bwlang> zebedee: maybe it's a csel setting - try putting it on it's own cable as a "master" device
[02:29] <profoX`> VladimirBG: good luck -- i don't think it will help :(
[02:29] <VladimirBG> profoX`, btw, what is init10?
[02:29] <killown> ok
[02:29] <profoX`> but its worht a try
[02:29] <DigitalNinja> I'm playing around with an IPod on Xubuntu. Banshee doesn't see it and Gtkpod won't auto mount it. Does anyone have a fix for this?
[02:29] <BlueEagle> !xorgbug
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgbug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <profoX`> VladimirBG: int10 -- i don't know
[02:29] <greg> which server should i pick?
[02:29] <zebedee> it is :-)
[02:29] <BlueEagle> rev11: which version of xorg-core have you got?
[02:29] <killown> BlueEagle I want an video thumbnail for gnome  you know?
[02:29] <VladimirBG> profoX`, well thanks anyway
[02:30] <DigitalNinja> I just want things to work
[02:30] <zebedee> and master jumper
[02:30] <greg> nvm
[02:30] <BlueEagle> killown: Ehh.. Not really.
[02:30] <profoX`> VladimirBG: something to do with BIOS apparantly
[02:30] <recon0> Where can I find function alutInit()? i'm looking because I have an undefined ref to it.
[02:30] <rev11> how do i check and i think its 10.4
[02:30] <rev11> i downloaded the damn thing today
[02:31] <zebedee> google said the drive was a bit of a pig :-)
[02:31] <kern_malloc> I know it's not supported in this channel.  Not asking for support if it breaks, just want to know procedure :)  Ok if I want to upgrade to edgy eft, I do not need to actually get the Edgy iso (i.e. Knot 2 iso).  I can just change edgy in my apt-source and upgrade per usual correct?
[02:31] <HeathenDan> you can run synaptic and check which ver of xorg you have installed
[02:31] <profoX`> kern_malloc: yes, that should be possible
[02:31] <killown> anyone know any video thumbnail?
[02:31] <profoX`> kern_malloc: I upgraded one machine that way
[02:31] <BlueEagle> rev11: dpkg-query -s xserver-xorg-core|grep Version
[02:31] <kern_malloc> ok thanks profoX`
[02:31] <profoX`> kern_malloc: apt-get update and dist-upgrade and you should be fine
[02:31] <BlueEagle> rev11: it should give you Version: 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[02:31] <kern_malloc> yup that's what i was thinking... ok cool
[02:32] <profoX`> kern_malloc: #ubuntu+1 is the eft channel btw
[02:32] <kern_malloc> yah i asked, just queit in there lol
[02:32] <BlueEagle> rev11: if it gives you Version: 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 then that is causing your problem.
[02:32] <profoX`> lol
[02:32] <kern_malloc> s/queit/quiet
[02:32] <profoX`> kern_malloc: yea its boring =)
[02:32] <Homer> is it possible for a HDD jumper to actually fry?
[02:32] <rev11> it says 10.1
[02:32] <rev11> sheesh
[02:33] <BlueEagle> rev11: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <rev11> its right off the cd i downloaded
[02:33] <zebedee> homer: yep:-0
[02:33] <BlueEagle> rev11: might want to visit source-o-matic first tho :)
[02:33] <bwlang> Homer: if you put it in a skillet
[02:33] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell rev11 about easysource
[02:33] <profoX`> BlueEagle: that cant be the problem -- he has the problem on the install cd
[02:33] <killown> I want to install gnome 2.8 I can it in apt-get?
[02:33] <rev11> yea
[02:33] <rev11> its the install
[02:33] <MrMikey> Ok I need to do something
[02:33] <BlueEagle> profox`: Still an upgrade will hardly hurt him.
[02:33] <greg> killown: yes
[02:33] <siimo> killown: wtf what version of ubuntu is this
[02:34] <linuchsan> rev11: 10.1 ???
[02:34] <recon0> siimo: latest stable is dapper.
[02:34] <lgc> nalioth, you there?
[02:34] <exs> Is there any mobile phone apps I can use to synchornise my data? ( i have sony ericsson and I want to get the messages from it  + contacts )
[02:34] <profoX`> BlueEagle: yea but it doesn't make much sense to do a full upgrade on the live cd
[02:34] <jdmpike> how do I register my nick again?
[02:34] <jdmpike> I don't remember my password
[02:34] <rev11> ill do anything i just want to install this thung
[02:34] <rev11> thing
[02:34] <profoX`> jdmpike: /msg NickServ register passw
[02:34] <BlueEagle> profox`: Oh, I thought he had installed ubuntu. My bad
[02:34] <BlueEagle> rev11: did you try vga safe mode on the boot menu?
[02:34] <killown> siimo as I see version of ubuntu?
[02:34] <profoX`> BlueEagle: nah.. install/desktop cd :)
[02:35] <rev11> i did not.
[02:35] <profoX`> rev11: its worth a try
[02:35] <BlueEagle> rev11: I would try that if I were you.
[02:35] <greg> anyone wanna donate a sound card?
[02:35] <rev11> sure
[02:35] <killown> siimo, greg version 5.10
[02:35] <BlueEagle> rev11: good luck. :)
[02:35] <jdmpike> profoX' it is already registered, I registered it a long time ago, just can't remember
[02:35] <siimo> killown: and you want 2.8 gnome on it o_O ?
[02:35] <nalioth> lgc: howdy
[02:35] <profoX`> jdmpike: i don't think you can recover it
[02:35] <killown> siimo, yes
[02:35] <profoX`> or i dont know how
[02:35] <BlueEagle> rev11: press F4 and select safe mode on the boot menu
[02:35] <recon0> I installed libalut-dev, but my program still won't compile with the error "undefined reference to `alutInit'".
[02:35] <jdmpike> profoX', so my nick is dead?
[02:35] <|DrV> has anyone gotten wine to work on amd64?
[02:36] <killown> siimo, whats ultimate version ubuntu?
[02:36] <profoX`> isn't 2.8 old ?
[02:36] <BlueEagle> rev11: that should in most cases atleast get X up even if it's in a low resolution
[02:36] <greg> i have
[02:36] <greg> but years ago
[02:36] <|DrV> i tried the instructions from winehq but the repository was missing an index for amd64
[02:36] <lgc> nalioth, howdy. How is your mood today?
[02:36] <rev11> when i hit f4 all the resolutions come up
[02:36] <nalioth> lgc: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:36] <BlueEagle> rev11: also you might notice that some windows are too large for the screen. You can hold ALT and drag them with the mouse to move them around.
[02:36] <siimo> killown: 5.10 has 2.12 and latest ubuntu has 2.14.2
[02:36] <profoX`> jdmpike: I think so -- look for the freenode site on google or something
[02:36] <rev11> ok so select VGA then safe mode?
[02:36] <killown> siimo, then I want version 2.14.2
[02:36] <BlueEagle> rev11: seems like a plan
[02:36] <killown> how I get it?
[02:37] <rev11> here we go.
[02:37] <profoX`> killefiz: do you run breezy now? 5.10 ?
[02:37] <greg> killown: whats wrong?
[02:37] <profoX`> rev11: good luck
[02:37] <siimo> killown: but you have 5.10 ubuntu then you have to get 2.12 unless you upgrade ubuntu foirst
[02:37] <greg> why dont u try xfce or kde instead if gnome wont work?
[02:37] <killown> siimo ok
[02:37] <profoX`> yea upgrade ubuntu to dapper drake (6.06) and you'll automatically have gnome 2.14.2 -- thats easier
[02:37] <killown> thanks all
[02:38] <BlueEagle> killown: if it's not in backports then you can upgrade to 6.06 or compile it manually.
[02:38] <recon0> Does anybody know how I can tell a makefile to recognize "libalut.so"?
[02:38] <Telarian02> Hello all, can anyone tell me a quick fix to turn off touchpad tap to click function in Dapper?
[02:38] <rev11> sigh...
[02:38] <rev11> black screen
[02:38] <rev11> flashing light.
[02:39] <profoX`> rev11: flashing light..?
[02:39] <BlueEagle> rev11: laptop?
[02:39] <ladydoor> Telarian02: i think the existence of such a fix depends on what kind of touchpad you use
[02:39] <rev11> nope
[02:39] <rev11> monitor light
[02:39] <rev11> like when the video card doesnt send anything to the monitor
[02:39] <Telarian02> synaptics i guess? (newbie)
[02:39] <profoX`> rev11: err.. ok.. does alt+f1 work? and what is the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE
[02:39] <rev11> i can try another monitor
[02:39] <profoX`> if alt+f1 works
[02:40] <BlueEagle> rev11: or ctrl+alt+f1
[02:40] <profoX`> rev11: yea you can try that too but I don't think that'll work, atleast not for the no screens error
[02:40] <profoX`> BlueEagle: rev11: yea I meant ctrl+alt+f1
[02:40] <ladydoor> Telarian02: i hate to just send you away, but traditionally there have been a great number of threads regarding this issue on ubuntuforums.org. you might start by searching there :-)
[02:40] <rev11> ill have to reboot it first.
[02:40] <rev11> lets see.
[02:40] <zebedee> good luck
[02:41] <caseyomah> I'm having an issue, I have two boxes with Dapper Drake, one with a SB Audigy card (working fine) and one with a SB Live! (no sound) Any idea how to get it working?
[02:41] <linuchsan> jdmpike: "/nickserv sendpass"
[02:41] <rev11> i mean like, is this a common problem,
[02:41] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: sb live should be working OTB tbh
[02:41] <rev11> other linux things work
[02:41] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: have you got an integrated sound card on that box?
[02:41] <rev11> distros
[02:41] <jdmpike> linuchsan, no dice
[02:41] <nbjayme> hello all.  how do you tell kino to export only video (no audio)?
[02:42] <caseyomah> Yes, there is an OSS onboard and no way to disable.
[02:42] <Knelix> Can anyone here help me with xmame?
[02:42] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: then perhaps you're not using the right card.
[02:42] <phiber_optic> greg, where u able to add an iso?
[02:43] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: system->settings->sound
[02:43] <caseyomah> OSS doesn't install either, that's why I installed the SB Live! knowing Linux's compatibility with Creative cards.
[02:43] <rev11> when do i do ctrl alt f1
[02:43] <linuchsan> jdmpike: "/nickserv sendpass nick your mail address"
[02:43] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: at the bottom you'll se a "Default sound card" selector
[02:43] <greg> nope
[02:43] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: does it list any sound cards?
[02:43] <greg> its askinfor .vmx
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> caseyomah: I have never seen an onboard sound card that count not be disabled
[02:43] <phiber_optic> greg me too
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> could
[02:43] <caseyomah> It doesn't show up in Device Manager and mixer says Gstreamer no cards.
[02:44] <jdmpike> linuchsan, I get "Unknown command [sendpass] "
[02:44] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Did you look in systems->settings->sound ?
[02:44] <caseyomah> First one I've seen too, this is a Compaq Presario 5192.
[02:44] <profoX`> linuchsan: i dont think that works on freenode
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> caseyomah: IN rare cases I had to move a jumper on the mb
[02:44] <caseyomah> I didn't even bother looking at a hardware interrupt... that's probably it.
[02:45] <Zambezi> Nontopic, but a quick question. Cat5 or Cat6 networkcable for my homenetwork? Which one is the best?
[02:45] <rev11> the CD is goin nuts but the monirot isnt connecting
[02:45] <rev11> hmm
[02:45] <rev11> damnit
[02:45] <caseyomah> "Default sound card:" (Blank dropdown.
[02:45] <rashed> anyone there 2help me out
[02:45] <ladydoor> !anyone
[02:45] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:45] <foo> Hm, I installed ubuntu and it looks like it defaults to gnome. Is there any simple way to get fluxbox on here?
[02:46] <ladydoor> foo: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[02:46] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: ok then. Please open a terminal and type: lsmod|grep emu10k1
[02:46] <ladydoor> foo: (you may need to enable universe repositories)
[02:46] <foo> ladydoor: Hehe, yeah. Ok. I didn't know if ubuntu had some trick or something
[02:46] <tizwonder> ladydoor: dont you need xfce?
[02:46] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: it should return approx 15 lines
[02:46] <greg> how to i make a .vmx?
[02:46] <ladydoor> tizwonder: not to install fluxbox. fluxbox is its own wm
[02:46] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: if it returns no lines then the module isn't loaded.
[02:46] <rashed> i cant get my 2wire pcmcia wireless card working on ubuntu
[02:46] <tizwonder> ladydoor: ah its a standalone?
[02:46] <ladydoor> foo: :-). you just need to install it and then start if from the gdm
[02:46] <tizwonder> i didnt know that...
[02:46] <foo> ladydoor: ah, thanks.
[02:46] <ladydoor> tizwonder: yup. most window-managers are
[02:47] <caseyomah> No return, back to prompt, do I need to su first?
[02:47] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: also if it returns no lines try: lsmod|grep snd_page_alloc
[02:47] <tizwonder> ladydoor: so its just like installing kde... install it, end session, and it will be in menu to start?
[02:47] <ladydoor> foo: np
[02:47] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: if still no joy then type: sudo modprobe emu10k1
[02:47] <ladydoor> tizwonder: yup
[02:47] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: then again try: lsmod|grep emu10k1
[02:48] <caseyomah> I just plugged in a Logitech USB Headset (Playstation 2)...
[02:48] <greg> http://www.consolevision.com/members/dcgrendel/vmxform.html
[02:48] <greg> that what i do?
[02:48] <rashed> anyone help pls
[02:48] <rev11> ok new monitor
[02:48] <caseyomah> "FATAL: Module emu10k1 not found."
[02:48] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell rashed about wireless
[02:49] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: hmm..
[02:49] <caseyomah> BlueEagle: The Logitech works, and shows up in System/Preferance/Sound.
[02:50] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: sudo modprobe emu10k1-snd
[02:50] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[02:50] <BlueEagle> the last one
[02:50] <caseyomah> No return.
[02:50] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: well let's try to get your sb live working, shall we?
[02:50] <caseyomah> That's the point.
[02:50] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: no return from lsmod|grep emu10k1
[02:50] <BlueEagle> ?
[02:50] <ubuntu> hello
[02:51] <phiber_optic> greg,  i found a way to do it
[02:51] <phiber_optic> :)
[02:51] <Sunderland> heeeeeeew
[02:51] <Sunderland> hey guyhs
[02:51] <Sunderland> guys
[02:51] <Sunderland> :D
[02:51] <greg> how?
[02:51] <Sunderland> ubuntu ownz :D
[02:51] <sris> is it possible to "tile" all your virtual desktops, like osx expos, or the firefoxplugin foxpose ( https://addons.mozilla.org/images/previews/viamatic_foxpose-3.jpg )
[02:51] <phiber_optic> did u already created the VA?
[02:51] <greg> no
[02:51] <greg> dunno how
[02:51] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: if there is lines returned please just say so, don't paste them all in here.
[02:51] <ubuntu> I'm installing ubuntu as we speak, I just recieved the LTS 6.06 cd in the mail today.  After I setup my partitions, it just went straight to "Installing system" without giving me options to choose which applications i wish to install.  Is this normal?
[02:51] <phiber_optic> query me greg
[02:52] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: Yes, it is.
[02:52] <caseyomah>  grepping emu10k1 or snd-emu10k1 from a lsmod returns nothing.
[02:52] <ladydoor> ubuntu: yup
[02:52] <phiber_optic> how do i go to a different partition in a command line
[02:52] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: oh...
[02:52] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: is it mounted?
[02:52] <ubuntu> ok so i just choose which apps after it's installed?
[02:52] <ubuntu> via apt
[02:52] <ubuntu> ?
[02:52] <ladydoor> ubuntu: yeah
[02:52] <caseyomah> It seems like a hardware detection problem not a driver issue...
[02:52] <scunizi> ubuntu: via apt or synaptic
[02:52] <phiber_optic> yes
[02:53] <ubuntu> synaptic a front-end to apt?
[02:53] <phiber_optic> ladydoor,
[02:53] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: yes?
[02:53] <scunizi> ubuntu: yep
[02:53] <ubuntu> i used debian many moons ago... never used synaptic
[02:53] <ubuntu> ah ok
[02:53] <phiber_optic> ladydoor, yes its mounted
[02:53] <ubuntu> i'll check that out, thanks guys
[02:53] <ladydoor> ubuntu: you might like aptitude
[02:53] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: ok, then please try: lspci|grep audio
[02:53] <ubuntu> yah aptitude i'm familair with
[02:53] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: cd /path/to/mount/point
[02:53] <caseyomah> Unfortunately I can't verify that the BIOS sees the card, it's a junky BIOS.
[02:53] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: and you'll be there :-0
[02:53] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: it should return a line similar to: 0000:01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[02:53] <ladydoor> *:-)
[02:53] <zebedee> odd win 98 /dos finds it may flash the chip (in the am) see that helps !!  bye all
[02:54] <caseyomah> Once again, no return.
[02:54] <scunizi> ubuntu: What progs are you interested in?
[02:54] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Oh?
[02:54] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: I see.
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> caseyomah: Using this compaq page it says you can disable onboard sound  http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&tool=prodinfoCategory&product=93128&dest_page=prodinfoCategory&docname=bph07110#N1003
[02:54] <phiber_optic> ladydoor, the thing is ubuntu mounted manually so i dont really know where is moutned and everything
[02:54] <profoX`> im gone
[02:54] <ubuntu> scunizi: typical, gimp, firefox, open office, irssi, something for mail.. I like thunderbird.
[02:54] <profoX`> bye guys
[02:54] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: i would check in /media
[02:54] <thao> hi there .
[02:54] <thao> can someone help me.
[02:54] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: (ls /media)
[02:54] <rev11> ubuntu sucks
[02:54] <caseyomah> Browsing...
[02:55] <rev11> its ruined my life.
[02:55] <phiber_optic> yes
[02:55] <phiber_optic> its there
[02:55] <phiber_optic> thanx
[02:55] <ladydoor> ubuntu: most of those are already installed
[02:55] <ubuntu> ah ok
[02:55] <ladydoor> ubuntu: *except thunderbird
[02:55] <scunizi> ubuntu: firefox, gimp, open office are already there... you won't need much to catch up with the rest of your list.
[02:55] <ormandj> is that us.archive.ubuntu.com mirror down? keep getting can't connect errors in aptitude, but my network is fine (can ping, etc)
[02:55] <thao> can someone recommend a burning tool that is not k3b
[02:55] <ladydoor> what a dramatic exit...
[02:55] <caseyomah> Totally different BIOS screen.
[02:55] <ubuntu> works for me
[02:55] <ladydoor> ormandj: a lot of people remove the us. from that deb
[02:56] <ormandj> ladydoor: thanks, i'll give it a try
[02:56] <Madpilot> thao, Gnome's file manager - Nautilus - works nicely for data burning
[02:56] <foo> ladydoor: Was it you who told me to put XTerm*fontSize:             20 in .Xdefaults if I want to change the font size in my xterm?
[02:56] <caseyomah> On a "standard" AMI BIOS (as shown) I know how to disable Sound Card.
[02:56] <thao> have u got a link to it, i can't seem to fire it up.
[02:56] <devilz> hi can someone tell me what ubuntu do i need to download to install it on my pc, i downloaded ubuntu-desktop and i cant install it i only can run ubuntu but cant install it
[02:56] <thao> Madpilot: have u got a link to it, i can't seem to fire it up.
[02:57] <caseyomah> ...I just want speakers. If we can get the OSS to work I'll be happy.
[02:57] <caseyomah> That shows up in Device Manager as unknown.
[02:57] <ladydoor> ormandj: sweet!
[02:57] <Madpilot> thansen, Places->Home Folder - or just stick a blank CD-R or DVD-R in your burner, you should get a popup
[02:57] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: please put the entire output of lspci to !pastebin
[02:57] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[02:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:57] <ladydoor> foo: hmmm, Xterm*fontSize         somenumber, yes
[02:58] <ladydoor> foo: wait
[02:58] <ladydoor> foo: it's actually Xterm*faceSize
[02:58] <thao> * Madpilot. .....does it allow burning of ISO?
[02:58] <caseyomah> No audio in it at all.
[02:58] <ladydoor> foo: *and without the capital X
[02:59] <foo> ladydoor: hmm. Not working
[02:59] <Madpilot> thao, to burn an ISO, stick a blank CD in, close the popup you get, then just find your ISO in the file manager, right-click on it, and choose Burn To Disc.
[02:59] <foo> ohh, so xterm*faceSize
[02:59] <foo> ladydoor: I'll try that, thanks
[02:59] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: well I am looking for unknown devices as well.
[02:59] <Dolda2000> A quick question: In Ubuntu, how do I get the system to reload my iptables config on startup?
[02:59] <ladydoor> foo: hmmmm....well, good luck
[02:59] <caseyomah> In pastebin.
[02:59] <caseyomah> For some reason it isn't showning unknowns...
[03:00] <detectiveinspekt> where the beta releases released before june?
[03:00] <DBO> Dolda2000, I use a firewall init script
[03:00] <foo> ladydoor: hm, no luck. Any other ideas?
[03:00] <caseyomah> Can I screencap with "Print Screen" key?
[03:00] <Advant> Where can I dwnload an ISO of the latest Efty Edge rls ?
[03:00] <Dolda2000> DBO, you mean you simply wrote it yourself?
[03:00] <DBO> Dolda2000, yeah
[03:00] <ormandj> hm, my ubuntu box can telnet to port 80 on us.archive.ubuntu.com and GET a response, but aptitude keeps claiming it can't
[03:01] <ladydoor> foo: well, what's your font line in .Xresources? also, are you doing xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources?
[03:01] <Dolda2000> Isn't there just some "standard" way, that just uses iptables-restore?
[03:01] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: I haven't asked but I just assumed: It is a PCI card and not an ISA card is it?
[03:01] <ormandj> standard apt-get is also saying connection failed
[03:01] <caseyomah> Right, PCI SB Live. emu10k1
[03:01] <foo> ladydoor: xTerm*faceSize:             20 .. and I'm just restarting x. hmm
[03:01] <ladydoor> foo: oh. well, the xrdb thing is easier, haha. and what's the faceName line?
[03:01] <sh4dox> hii
[03:01] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: and have you tried that card on another OS or PC?
[03:02] <sh4dox> is it normal that i can't log off neither reboot nomore?
[03:02] <foo> ladydoor: That's all I have. hmm, what do you mean? I just want to up the font. hmm
[03:02] <caseyomah> Not yet, I know what you're thinking, it may be dead.
[03:02] <ladydoor> foo: hmm. 20 may be too big
[03:02] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Well let's see if we can find a way to turn off the integrated sound card.
[03:02] <foo> ladydoor: Hmm. ok, I'll try 12. It was just for testing purposes.
[03:02] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Have you checked the BIOS?
[03:03] <caseyomah> But I know the OSS Err, just looked ESS works, just doesn't config.
[03:03] <foo> ladydoor: Do I need to do that xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources ? Or what?
[03:03] <ladydoor> foo: couldn't hurt...
[03:03] <caseyomah> Yeah, no BIOS setting, I'll have to check jumper and while I'm at it I should take my Live to the "good" box and crosscheck.
[03:03] <thao> MadPilot, that works, thank you very much buddy...
[03:03] <ladydoor> foo: i also have this line:  xterm*faceName:        MiscFixed
[03:03] <Madpilot> thao, not a problem
[03:03] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Did you read the manual for your motherboard and see if there's a jumper setting for disabling it?
[03:03] <nownot> hello im trying to install a gnome theme from  gnome-look.org but i cant figure it out, anyone think that they can help me
[03:03] <ladydoor> foo: to give me a gnome-terminal-like font
[03:03] <caseyomah> This is a used PC.
[03:04] <caseyomah> No docs.
[03:04] <foo> ladydoor: It's in .Xdefaults.. do I need to put this in .Xresources?
[03:04] <thao> ur a true Linux user :D
[03:04] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Do you know the make and model of the mobo?
[03:04] <caseyomah> Not off the top of my head.
[03:04] <ladydoor> foo: ehhhh...i don't know. probably not then. i'm sorry, but i have to go.
[03:04] <ciphex> hey guys. anyone ever had the pleasure of dropping ubuntu onto an older gateway athlon machine?
[03:04] <sid> Why isn't dc++ in ubuntu repositories?
[03:04] <foo> ladydoor: hm, thanks.
[03:04] <tjb891> does anyone know any programs that will let you highlight text in a browser like firefox and then have your computer read you the text selection?
[03:04] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Well you might want to check that and google to see if you can find a manual for it. :)
[03:04] <ladydoor> sid: it's not "stable" yet
[03:04] <caseyomah> I know it won't impress you, but I'm an A+ Certified PC Tech.
[03:04] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: It's often printed near the pins which connects to the front panel.
[03:04] <Snowmadic> greetings.  is ubuntu something that is supposed to be listed for sale on ebay?
[03:05] <ciphex> tjb891: OS X does that
[03:05] <caseyomah> Yup.
[03:05] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Well then I can see why you're as stumped as I am. :)
[03:05] <StoneNote> Snowmadic, got a url?
[03:05] <ladydoor> Snowmadic: lol...if anybody buys it, they're certainly a sucker
[03:05] <tjb891> i know, but i don't own a mac so linux is the closest thing
[03:05] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: but trying the sound card in another box is the next I'd try if I were you.
[03:05] <nownot> does anyone think they can help?
[03:05] <caseyomah> BTW, the ESS is "PnP Device (ESS0006)"
[03:05] <Snowmadic> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=200023322250
[03:06] <ciphex> having trouble here with an audio car that shipped with this gateway machine bought in 1999
[03:06] <lgc> jo
[03:06] <ciphex> card*
[03:07] <caseyomah> BlueEagle, I'll verify the card and check for Onboard disable jumper and report back.
[03:07] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Well lemme know.
[03:07] <StoneNote> Snowmadic, that's a reason I don't do ebay anymore. too many scamsters
[03:07] <caseyomah> Will do.
[03:07] <ciphex> if anyone knows about audio setup give me a shout
[03:07] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: I might be playing CS:S when you get back tho. :)
[03:07] <caseyomah> Mind if I /notify you?
[03:08] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell ciphex about anyone
[03:08] <BlueEagle> ciphex: ...or are you simply conducting a survey?
[03:08] <caseyomah> Alright, I'll be back.
[03:08] <ciphex> heh. actually i was rather trying not to be a bother
[03:08] <BlueEagle> ciphex: Let's start with the make and model of the audio card.
[03:09] <ciphex> Creative CT5803
[03:09] <BlueEagle> ciphex: good, good.
[03:09] <BlueEagle> ciphex: Now type this in a terminal: lspci|grep creative
[03:09] <devilz> BlueEagle, can you tell me where can i download ubuntu iso?
[03:09] <BlueEagle> ciphex: make that: lspci|grep Creative
[03:10] <devilz> but not desktop one
[03:10] <devilz> i wanna install ubuntu on my pc
[03:10] <ormandj> this is a fresh install of ubuntu 6.06.1 server. why is apt-get update returning "connection failed" errors, even though I can telnet to port 80 on the archive.ubuntu.com box and GET, and I get data? is it a known bug?
[03:10] <BlueEagle> devilz: it should be the same place where you get the desktop cd.
[03:10] <devilz> torrentspy :D
[03:10] <BlueEagle> devilz: Where in the world are you located?
[03:10] <ciphex> machine is rebooting as soon as it comes up i'll get on it
[03:10] <devilz> BlueEagle, slovenia europe
[03:11] <CharonX> Does anyone know how to get sound working with thunderbird in dapper? All I get is a scratch when trying to prevew a wav file in thunderbird, but the wav plays fine in xmms ?
[03:11] <BlueEagle> devilz: http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[03:11] <devilz> BlueEagle, ty, but which one do i need to download
[03:11] <BlueEagle> devilz: you want the alternat for your architecture. 'regular' PCs use the i386.iso
[03:11] <ormandj> this is the same problem i have, and his is unsolved too! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248933&highlight=Connection+failed
[03:11] <BlueEagle> devilz: if you've got a 64bit processor you might want to try the amd64.iso
[03:11] <devilz> well i wanna install ubuntu on my pc
[03:12] <devilz> i dont have 64
[03:12] <gubuntu> nthdegree, partition magic worked! im on ubuntu now, thanks
[03:12] <devilz> regular p4 3.0ghz
[03:12] <BlueEagle> devilz: then you want ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[03:12] <NthDegree> :)
[03:12] <devilz> BlueEagle, ty
[03:12] <gubuntu> now what do i do about my graphics driver?
[03:12] <BlueEagle> devilz: yw
[03:12] <gubuntu> im stuck at sucky 1026x768
[03:12] <BlueEagle> ciphex: ok. tell me when.
[03:13] <BlueEagle> ciphex: if it's a lot of lines returned from lspci go to !pastebin
[03:13] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell ciphex about pastebin
[03:13] <ciphex> gotcha
[03:13] <BlueEagle> gubuntu: which graphics card have you got?
[03:13] <devilz> BlueEagle, can i just ask is there anywhere on the internet where can i learn first steps in ubuntu
[03:13] <devilz> ?
[03:13] <gubuntu> radeon x850pro
[03:13] <devilz> after my installation
[03:13] <BlueEagle> devilz: Are you thinking about installations or what to do after it's installed?
[03:14] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell gubuntu about ati
[03:14] <devilz> BlueEagle, after
[03:14] <BlueEagle> gubuntu: ubotu should have messaged you with a link that is probably helpful
[03:14] <greg> how do i use vmplayer?
[03:14] <BlueEagle> devilz:
[03:14] <BlueEagle> hmm
[03:15] <Homer> this upstart thing = faster boot time?
[03:15] <BlueEagle> devilz: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[03:15] <ormandj> ahh, here it is: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246732&highlight=Connection+failed
[03:15] <ormandj> wow, what a bug!
[03:15] <BlueEagle> devilz: That is a pretty good resource.
[03:15] <devilz> thanks
[03:15] <BlueEagle> devilz: yw
[03:16] <Shadow_pillar> ciphex: what's the prob?
[03:16] <Shadow_pillar> nm, someone got it
[03:17] <BlueEagle> shadow_pillar: You can take it if you like. Sound problem. Got him checking lspci for the card in question. It should be a creative CT5803
[03:17] <Shadow_pillar> isnt that a 128 card?
[03:17] <BlueEagle> shadow_pillar: I really do not know. I haven't started googling it yet.
[03:17] <ciphex> (i was actually finishing a clean install and it's almost ready to boot)
[03:17] <Shadow_pillar> yeah it is
[03:17] <BlueEagle> shadow_pillar: I was looking for lspci|grep Creative
[03:17] <ciphex> google tells me it's a 128
[03:17] <Shadow_pillar> it's a 128
[03:18] <StoneNote> greg the vmplayer documentation is here http://www.vmware.com/support/pubs/player_pubs.html if you have a specific question of some step they don't explain well, let me know. "How do you use" is a little too broad.
[03:18] <ciphex> but ubuntu identifies it as a PCI-97
[03:18] <BlueEagle> ciphex: shadow_pillar will help you. I'm going to play some CS:S gun game :)
[03:18] <ciphex> have fun :-0)
[03:20] <Shadow_pillar> ciphex: it comes up with lspci. right?
[03:20] <ciphex> checking
[03:21] <ciphex> Multimedia audio controller Ensoniq ES1371 AudioPCI-97 rev 08
[03:21] <ciphex> is what lspci reports
[03:21] <Ych> 7wuot
[03:21] <Ych> 7/eto
[03:22] <Shadow_pillar> ciphex: that just made both of our lives easier, though I just found the same info myself
[03:22] <ormandj> ubuntuforums is running like molasses now too
[03:22] <ciphex> awesome
[03:22] <POVaddct> ciphex: modprobe snd-ens1371
[03:22] <Shadow_pillar> ciphex: sudo modprobe es1371
[03:22] <Shadow_pillar> er
[03:22] <Shadow_pillar> ciphex: sudo modprobe snd-es1371
[03:23] <Shadow_pillar> er, listen to POVaddct
[03:23] <ciphex> module not found
[03:23] <Shadow_pillar> ens
[03:23] <Shadow_pillar> not es
[03:24] <ciphex> done
[03:24] <hoplessguy_1> good morning everybody
[03:24] <HeathenDan> mornin
[03:24] <Shadow_pillar> ciphex: try to change your sound settings
[03:24] <caseyomah> This is the "good" box with SB Audigy and the "questionable" SB Live!
[03:25] <caseyomah> Still no trace of the Live!.
[03:25] <Shadow_pillar> caseyomah: ?
[03:25] <ciphex> the only sound utility i know of is what i get access to in the tool bar here under drapper
[03:25] <ciphex> that what you mean?
[03:26] <Shadow_pillar> the volume control
[03:26] <ciphex> yeah
[03:26] <Homer> epipany is frecken fast
[03:26] <ciphex> it seems that i still have the same options as i did before
[03:26] <caseyomah> IS CD4810 compatible with Dapper Drake?
[03:27] <caseyomah> CT4810*
[03:27] <caseyomah> Sound card.
[03:27] <bwlang> caseyomah: probably ... use google to be sure...
[03:27] <caseyomah> Googling.
[03:28] <bwlang> caseyomah: it's not ubuntu that you care about ... it's the linux kernel.  so google ct4810 and linux
[03:28] <ciphex> shadow: i have been playing with this for a while and the only thing that gets me any kind of result is enabling a track control in the audio utility called IEC958 2
[03:28] <Shadow_pillar> this song is so full of life
[03:28] <ciphex> when i enable that checkbox and turn it on...
[03:28] <caseyomah> And I need to know about 1.6.x
[03:28] <caseyomah> Err 2.6.x
[03:28] <ciphex> i get audio but it is overlayed with serious static
[03:29] <javamaniac> hi
[03:29] <javamaniac> someone knows why now on dapper netbeans doesnot work?
[03:29] <javamaniac> it just show a blank window
[03:29] <javamaniac> :S
[03:30] <Homer> maybe you need sun's java VM
[03:30] <raghu206> how to install xgl on intel systems
[03:31] <caseyomah> Looks like PnP (Plug 'n' Pray) will be faster. :)
[03:31] <richiefrich> !xgl
[03:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:31] <richiefrich> raghu206 ^
[03:32] <raghu206> !xgl
[03:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:32] <caseyomah> Does Dapper Drake send with the DirectX 8 version of wine?
[03:32] <javamaniac>  it open, but when netbeans finish to load all the modules, it shows the main window but blank
[03:32] <javamaniac> i have a vm already
[03:32] <javamaniac> :S
[03:34] <raghu206> richiefrich, i didnt get u
[03:34] <Homer> this is really cool
[03:34] <richiefrich> i meant look up ^^
[03:34] <Homer> I'm running ubuntu off of a computer with no HDD
[03:35] <Homer> and even used the package manager
[03:35] <ciphex> shadow... did you come back?
[03:35] <rai> hello, I need help with viewing my additional hard drives in ubuntu's file browser
[03:36] <KillerNoName> for the free ship it cds, i ordered the 10 disc set, and it seems like they just sent me 10 copies of the exact same thing. I thought the 10 PC edition was like the fullest suite you could order
[03:36] <printk> lol killer
[03:36] <KillerNoName> otherwise, i would have just ordered one cd. was i mistaken, or did they send me something wrong?
[03:37] <stpere> KillerNoName: you were mistaken
[03:37] <KillerNoName> i feel bad, lol
[03:37] <jbmigel> your supposed to give them to your friends
[03:37] <jramsey> KillerNoName, that's what they send lol they want evangelists so you now are obligated to give away 9 copies to your friends and get converts
[03:37] <KillerNoName> i don't think i can find 9 friends who are willing to use linux
[03:37] <printk> the 10 disc set is just 10 cds of 6.06.  I.e. in case you know 10 people or you hve 10 workstations to install i don't know ;)
[03:37] <Homer> give me a copy
[03:37] <Homer> :P
[03:37] <uhoplessgy_1> @rai: maybe you should mount your drives. :-)
[03:37] <KillerNoName> can i ask how ubuntu works? like how do they make money to survive?
[03:37] <Homer> I only have 5.10 CD
[03:37] <jbmigel> haha ya I have 2 computers so i need 2 disks right printk
[03:37] <jramsey> they find 9 friends who want to reboot their machine 60 zillion times for windows and then show them ubuntu; they'll convert
[03:38] <stpere> KillerNoName: Canonical is selling commercial support
[03:38] <printk> KillerNoName: sponserships advertisements... and alot of volunteer work
[03:38] <jramsey> KillerNoName, Mark Shuttleworth made his before ... this is his way of giving back
[03:38] <printk> and they have subscriptions for support I think
[03:38] <brucedes> does anyone know why xlibs can't be installed on ppc?
[03:38] <brucedes> I want to install blackdown java
[03:38] <KillerNoName> hmm, thanks guys
[03:38] <gottreu> simple-ish question (i hope) if i have hundreds of png or tiff files and want to create one giant PDF, one image per page, which utility should I use?
[03:39] <KillerNoName> i'm excited to boot onto ubuntu live for the first time :) see ya guys
[03:39] <Homer> did you try ubuntu yet KillerNoName?
[03:39] <Homer> ah
[03:39] <Homer> later
[03:39] <KillerNoName> lol
[03:39] <tjb891> does anyone here use a canon pixma ip1500?
[03:39] <KillerNoName> i'll find an irc program under than and come back on :)
[03:39] <Homer> yeah
[03:39] <KillerNoName> see ya guys soon
[03:39] <Homer> XChat
[03:39] <printk> KillerNoName: irssi
[03:39] <Homer> XChat :)
[03:39] <ciphex> xchat
[03:39] <HeathenDan> is xchat in the livecd?
[03:40] <Lard-O-Lad> yea
[03:40] <ciphex> irssi is for the truly unquestioningly hopeless geeks
[03:40] <Haz> xD
[03:40] <matti> ;f
[03:40] <matti> ciphex: Really? ;p
[03:40] <HeathenDan> i see
[03:40] <matti> Irssi 0.8.9 Linux
[03:40] <matti> ;] 
[03:40] <Lard-O-Lad> how can I do a through scan of my ext3 harddrive?
[03:41] <printk> what do you want to scan for?
[03:42] <hopelessguy_1> i have a pretty weird problem. my gnome desktop just shows squares instead of letters - everywhere. i haven't found any information how to fix it. my last hope is to find someone who possibly had the same problem and knows how to fix it
[03:42] <marshall> hey guys
[03:42] <dibblego> what software can be used to create mp3s from a CD?
[03:42] <Byan> can someone tell me how to install tor?
[03:42] <marshall> does anybody have gaim on right now?
[03:42] <dibblego> marshall, yes
[03:42] <icet> help: how to disable automatic login in (without using x)
[03:42] <Lard-O-Lad> i used the Ext2 for xp, and i think i might have screwed something up, so like a file table scan, or a scanning sectors...
[03:42] <marshall> dibblego: can you tell me what the command is for gaim to use for notification sounds for you?
[03:42] <Byan> has information here, but I don't know what to do with it http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorOnDebian
[03:43] <dibblego> marshall, I have no idea - I don't use it that much
[03:43] <marshall> dibblego: i accidentally deleted my command and dont know what it is
[03:43] <ciphex> so... what guru wants to help me understand why my sound card would be recognized under breezy but not dapper and how i could go about finding a driver for a PCI 128 card
[03:43] <dibblego> marshall, tell me how to find out and I will
[03:43] <marshall> dibblego: please just go to preferences, then the sounds tab
[03:43] <marshall> dibblego: then under methos tell me what you have
[03:43] <marshall> *method
[03:43] <dibblego> marshall, Automatic
[03:43] <marshall> crap
[03:43] <marshall> thanks
[03:44] <dibblego> no problem
[03:44] <mark06> hello all
[03:44] <icet> bump - help: how to disable automatic login in (without using x) ?
[03:45] <exs> how do I hide my desktop icons?
[03:45] <hopelessguy_1> @icet: edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[03:45] <User59> Hi can some one tell my how to start the graphics ftom the command line
[03:46] <dibblego> User59, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:46] <hopelessguy_1> icet: there's a line for automatic login
[03:46] <obf213> hey wahts the default irc for ubuntu
[03:47] <marshall> obf213: ?
[03:47] <obf213> whats the default irc for ubuntu
[03:47] <marshall> obf213: it doesnt come with an irc client anymore
[03:47] <obf213> ok
[03:47] <marshall> obf213: im using xchat-gnome
[03:47] <obf213> i use kubuntu
[03:47] <obf213> but my friend wanted to know thanks though
[03:47] <marshall> obf213: konversation is the best one i think
[03:47] <knoppix> hello
[03:47] <obf213> he said he installed xchat but it didnt show up in his menu
[03:47] <marshall> hi knoppix
[03:48] <jigoku> hi
[03:48] <jbmigel> who picks the defaults anyway? will they continue to remove good things as ooorg bloats?
[03:48] <Byan> >_< people ignore me
[03:48] <marshall> byan: lol
[03:48] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: who cares. people will use what suits them best :-)
[03:48] <marshall> obf213: does he know how to start it without the shortcut?
[03:48] <icet> hopelessguy_1:workin on it, thanks. Editing gdm.conf-custom though
[03:49] <obf213> marshall he was retarded
[03:49] <KillerNoName> omg you guys, i'm so impressed
[03:49] <obf213> he didnt have it installed
[03:49] <marshall> jbmigel: yeah i friggin hate oo.org
[03:49] <brucedes> does anyone know where I can get xlibs for ppc ubuntu?
[03:49] <hopelessguy_1> icet: good luck
[03:49] <marshall> obf213: lol
[03:49] <KillerNoName> i've tried redhat, mandrake, and knoppix live cd, and i'm just in the live cd version, and i'm so impressed
[03:49] <obf213> thanks though, bye
[03:49] <KillerNoName> installing new packages is a breeze!
[03:49] <marshall> i tried arch earlier today and i was confused and horrified
[03:50] <Homer> yeah
[03:50] <brucedes> or anyway of me being able to use java on ppc
[03:50] <Homer> you can even install packages on the live cd
[03:50] <Homer> heh
[03:50] <KillerNoName> ya, that's what i did, lol
[03:50] <KillerNoName> but i'm gonna full install it
[03:50] <marshall> whats impressive?
[03:50] <KillerNoName> i just hope my mbr or whatever doesn't get screwed up from my previous mandrake installation
[03:50] <Homer> package manager
[03:50] <KillerNoName> it's already messed up
[03:50] <hopelessguy_1> so i guess no one has a clue how to fix my "squares instead of letters on gnome desktop" problem :-)
[03:50] <marshall> whats impressive?
[03:51] <Homer> package manager
[03:51] <marshall> oh
[03:51] <KillerNoName> how much more stable is ubuntu compared with mandrake?
[03:51] <marshall> which one is it?
[03:51] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 did you pick korean language setting?
[03:52] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: no
[03:52] <Homer> I don't know, the one that comes with Ubuntu
[03:52] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: it just happend after a update
[03:52] <marshall> lol oh
[03:52] <Jamminpotato>  anyone here have the o'reilly linux pocket guide?
[03:52] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 id check it anyway, system>>admin>>language
[03:52] <KillerNoName> oh, one thing i hated, especially with compiling when i used to use linux were all the dependencies like libs and such you needed for certain files, does ubuntu simplify that process also?
[03:53] <jigoku> hey, may I ask a question I can't seem to get an answer to in faqs and the like?
[03:53] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: when starting gnome applications i get a pango-Warning
[03:53] <Warbo> !apt > KillerNoName
[03:53] <KillerNoName> i love the default setup on the live cd, and all my drivers loaded, and my display is already set to optimal settings :)
[03:53] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: i cant get to system>>adin>>language because i cant read anythng :-)
[03:53] <Homer> why is epipany called "Web Browser 1.8.2" in the about screen?
[03:53] <Homer> lol
[03:53] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: just squares, except on applications like firefox
[03:54] <Warbo> Homer: It is GNOME's Web Browser. I wouldn't find it weird to see Gedit's as "Text Editor 5" or something
[03:54] <jbmigel> language is the third pick in the admin tab which is the second pick in system which is the last pick on your menu bar
[03:54] <jigoku> hey, may I ask a question I can't seem to get an answer to in faqs and the like?
[03:54] <caseyomah> BlueEagle, SB Live! Verified dead, I found an old CT4810 and it works PnP.
[03:55] <Sivik> why am i able to get a valid ap but not get assigned an ip on a non secure wireless point (broadcom card)
[03:55] <Homer> no trademark granted for that one!
[03:55] <Warbo> jigoku: That is why we are here :)
[03:55] <jigoku> thanks
[03:55] <jigoku> so
[03:55] <caseyomah> How do I get a CSS decoder for linux?
[03:55] <jigoku> I'm trying to get into some servers I know exist and I know the address is right
[03:55] <jigoku> but can't connecty
[03:55] <jigoku> the x-chat
[03:56] <jigoku> gives me the mispelled message
[03:56] <Sivik> caseyomah, did you do an apt-cache search?
[03:56] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: any dpgk-reconfigure way to do that?
[03:56] <jigoku> and I know I haven't mispelled the server addresses
[03:56] <caseyomah> CT4810 works fine, My SB Live! card broke, I verified it on two systems, doesn't come up in BIOS.
[03:57] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 it looks like pango-warning is telling you your font is borked. let me look around for you on reconfig
[03:57] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: i did a font-configure and forced to renew the cache
[03:58] <Lard-O-Lad> i ran fsck on my ext3 external drive, and it said 'Deleted inode **** has zero dtime.  Fix?',  is this something i should be worring about??
[03:58] <caseyomah> I'm trying to play store bought DVDs,  Ogle crashes on "open disk" and gxine locks up after loading the title.
[03:58] <dmsantam>  i have a cd image which i want to run on vmware. i want it to be fullscreen, and revert back to the original image when rebooted - like a livecd. in fact i want to make the image from a live cd. what vmware product do i need to be able to run this image full screen?
[03:59] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: i removed the font and then pango picked the next font - i removed that too, and then the next followed. i installed them fresh, but the problem is persistant :'(
[03:59] <nvy> Hello does the ubuntu dvd contain server desktop and alternative or is just with package ?
[03:59] <Sivik> having problems getting an ip with a broadcom wireless card
[03:59] <Lard-O-Lad> dmsantam: I believe that Vmware Player has a button for full screen operation
[03:59] <User59> Hi.  Can some one help me start kde in suse from the command line?
[03:59] <Lard-O-Lad> dmsantam: I think that goes for many of Vmware's applications
[04:00] <dmsantam> Lard-O-Lad, vmware player can do full screen?
[04:00] <Warbo> User59: I don't know Suse, maybe people in #suse or somewhere do. Usually you just run "X :0", then in another terminal run "export DISPLAY=localhost:0" then "startkde"
[04:00] <caseyomah> nvy: DVD has LiveCD plus Server and OEM that I saw.
[04:00] <Lard-O-Lad> dmsantam: pretty sure... i can check right now brb
[04:01] <dmsantam> Lard-O-Lad, thanks!
[04:01] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: the best is: i can't find any information about that pango-warning. except some russion and asian sites
[04:01] <Lard-O-Lad> dmsantam: hehe, i guess i dont have it; but i do know for a fact that VMware Workstation has it
[04:01] <nvy> caseyomah by oem you mean the alternative cd ?
[04:02] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: which i don't understand :-)
[04:02] <Sivik> anyone here use a broadcom wireless card?
[04:02] <dmsantam> Lard-O-Lad, yeah, i know workstation does too - but it's not free :)
[04:02] <dmsantam> Lard-O-Lad, i guess i just have to try it :)
[04:02] <Lard-O-Lad> dmsantam: im willing to bet that Player has a full screen mode
[04:02] <Sivik> dmsantam, actually, if you get the server, its free
[04:02] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 yes i believe you, am having the same problem now
[04:02] <ciphex> do all drapped install CDs have this OEM option?
[04:02] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: :-)
[04:02] <ciphex> drapper*
[04:03] <Sivik> OEM option with a live cd, how does that work
[04:03] <caseyomah> nvy: I'm new to Ubuntu (installed less then a week ago) but OEM installs then has a script to allow (another) end user to setup personalization options.
[04:03] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: shape engin failure, expect ugly output
[04:03] <Warbo> ciphex: Dapper CDs don't except for alternate (I am not sure about server)
[04:03] <nvy> caseyomah, ok
[04:03] <ciphex> hmm seems i downloaded the wrong thing then
[04:03] <jigoku> help anyone?
[04:03] <caseyomah> nvy: I have not played with the alternate image.
[04:03] <Lard-O-Lad> Sivik: did that strike you as strange when you learnt that Vmware server is free.. it does almost everythign that Workstation does
[04:03] <Sivik> Warbo: can you help me with the broadcom stuff
[04:04] <Sivik> Lard-O-Lad, yes
[04:04] <Sivik> Lard-O-Lad, it was cool
[04:04] <Lard-O-Lad> Sivik: indeed
[04:04] <Sivik> Lard-O-Lad, so just use that
[04:04] <ciphex> i grabbed it as a torrent from the first US mirror
[04:04] <Warbo> Sivik: I don't have a Broadcom card, and am hopeless with Wifi (my own RaLaink card crashes the kernel)
[04:04] <caseyomah> ciphex: I downloaded the DVD edition and the Desktop (CD) edition and it is on the DVD, not Desktop.
[04:04] <Lard-O-Lad> Sivik: I actually have workstation, so im set; but i've used Server before
[04:04] <Sivik> Warbo, what kernel are you using
[04:04] <Sivik> Lard-O-Lad, how did you get a copy of workstation legally?
[04:04] <dmsantam> oh, vmware server is free.. wow
[04:05] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: i found the language settings. i just have set to  western european languages
[04:05] <Warbo> Sivik: 2.6.15-23-k7 (I think SMP kernels cause the problem)
[04:05] <Sivik> Warbo, it might
[04:05] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: btw, what problem do you have?
[04:06] <ciphex> those damn torrents. i guess i just picked the wrong one
[04:06] <gubuntu> blueagle, i followed that site exactly for the ati drivers you sent me and now X wont start
[04:06] <ciphex> grabbing the desktop now
[04:06] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 i dont have a problem... just here to waste time
[04:06] <Warbo> Sivik: I looked on Launchpad and the problem is there. I got an email suggesting ndiswrapper, but haven't got around to it yet. Maybe next time I am not in the middle of something I might reboot my computer
[04:06] <ciphex> maybe.. just maybe my sound card issue will be fixed after i install from the desktop
[04:07] <jsedgwick> What's a good IDE for linux?
[04:07] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: :-) i would like to say that, too
[04:07] <|DrV> emacs
[04:07] <Warbo> jsedgwick: Depends on the language. Eclipse is usually praised for Java
[04:07] <jsedgwick> oH SORRY, i MEANT TO SAY FOR C++
[04:07] <jsedgwick> Whoops, caps
[04:07] <Haz> xd
[04:07] <caseyomah> Does anyone know if the wine distributed with Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake supports DirectX 8?
[04:08] <raster> hmm
[04:08] <Warbo> Anjunta (I think it's called) is a GNOME C++ IDE
[04:08] <gubuntu> if anyone can help me, i followed the instructions on the ubuntu site for installing ati drivers for 3d support and now X wont start
[04:08] <raster> googleing/searching doesnt seem to help
[04:08] <raster> how do you "suspend" a laptop with ubuntu
[04:08] <raster> MANUALLY
[04:08] <raster> ie
[04:08] <Sivik> Warbo, but i never can get ndiswrapper to work either
[04:08] <raster> command-line
[04:08] <raster> ?
[04:08] <jsedgwick> How is Eclipse CDT?
[04:08] <Warbo> !enter > raster
[04:08] <Sivik> gubuntu, what card?
[04:08] <raster> ?
[04:08] <gubuntu> radeon x850pro
[04:09] <jsedgwick> Is it possible to use KDevelop on Gnome?
[04:09] <krazykit> jsedgwick: yup
[04:09] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: never had a persistant problem like this one. i always found some information led me to any idea on how to fix my system
[04:09] <Sivik> jsedgwick, yes
[04:09] <StoneNote> caseyomah, from what I can see, not compeltely. http://www.winehq.org/site/status_directx
[04:09] <jsedgwick> KDevelop, Eclipse CDT, Anjunta... hmm...
[04:09] <caseyomah> StoneNote, So it is the latest build?
[04:09] <raster> oh don't like enters.
[04:09] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 yes i know, have you tried reinstalling the fonts you removed?
[04:09] <jigoku> I can't connect to irchighway
[04:10] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: i did reinstall the fonts
[04:10] <gubuntu> sivik, i get: (ww) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE Failed: Bad File Descriptor
[04:10] <gubuntu> (ww) xf86CloseConsole: VT_GETMODE Failed: Bad File Descriptor
[04:10] <caseyomah> How do I script an app to open every time X opens? (StartUp)
[04:11] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: when i remove the font folder (i know bad idea), and restart the x-system at least some menues show up normal (fallback system i think)
[04:11] <Warbo> gubuntu: (ii)=information, (ww)=warning, (ee)=error. The errors are the only imporatnt ones
[04:11] <gubuntu> ee parsing error
[04:11] <Byan> how do I add a third party repository?
[04:11] <Warbo> Byan: System>Administration>Software Properties
[04:11] <Sivik> Byan: go under /etc/apt and open the sources.list
[04:11] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: when i put the font folder back and rebuild the font cache, followed by a new restart of the x-server. squares everywhere
[04:11] <caseyomah> edit /etc/apt/sources.list...
[04:12] <Warbo> Sivik: If you live in the dark ages :)
[04:12] <Byan> thenks Sivik and caseyomah
[04:12] <Sivik> or if you don't have gnome installed
[04:12] <StoneNote> caseyomah, I pulled that off the winehq site.  if you know a better source I'm happy to find out about it
[04:12] <nvy> someone know when Edgy Eft will be released ??
[04:12] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 you ran "sudo fc-cache -f -v" to rebuild cache?
[04:12] <Sivik> nvy: sometime in october unless you want the testing version and the testing version is already out
[04:12] <Haz> nvy, i heard it was going to be around next week.
[04:12] <Haz> oh. :<
[04:12] <Sivik> Warbo, i don't like nano
[04:12] <caseyomah> StoneNote, That's what I meant, there is news of new games being compatible.
[04:12] <nvy> Haz thanks
[04:12] <shambler> if ubuntu is linux for human beings....is slackware/gentoo linux for superhuman beings?
[04:13] <Warbo> Sivik: As long as you don't mention vi then I respect your opinion
[04:13] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: yes i did and nothing changed
[04:13] <krazykit> nvy: october, like they've been saying in the roadmap.
[04:13] <StoneNote> caseyomah, ah well that is news to me too
[04:13] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 hmmmm
[04:13] <gubuntu> sivik, it says i have no display and wont start x, i followed the instructions that blueeagle sent me
[04:13] <Haz> shambler, lmfao :P
[04:13] <Sivik> Warbo, well, thats what i use
[04:13] <Warbo> :(
[04:13] <Sivik> Warbo, i just haven't used nano much so i'm not sure how it works
[04:13] <HeathenDan> is it ok to pull out the usb pendrive after i unmounted it?
[04:13] <shambler> Haz, not the response i expected :P
[04:13] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: weird, eh?
[04:13] <gubuntu> heathendan, yes
[04:13] <caseyomah> HeathenDan, Yup.
[04:13] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 you will probably have to restart X after you rebuild?
[04:14] <Sivik> gubuntu, try going to wiki.ubuntu.com and searching ati
[04:14] <shambler> ubuntu users that use vi?  thats like an oxymoron
[04:14] <Sivik> gubuntu, follow those instructors
[04:14] <xhaan> heh
[04:14] <Sivik> whats so bad about vi?
[04:14] <gubuntu> sivik, i did
[04:14] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: i did (yesterday i tried that, i think)
[04:14] <caseyomah> Not if they duelboot.
[04:14] <Seq> Hello. Does know why my Trash never shows items in it when I delete things? Items actually exist in ~/.Trash . I should note that ~ is on a fuse mount (encfs)
[04:14] <Sivik> gubuntu, not sure, i'm having problems with my 200M Xpress card
[04:15] <Warbo> Duelbooting: noun. Allowing operating systems to fight for comtrol of hardware
[04:15] <raster> aha! found it: /etc/acpi/sleep.sh force
[04:15] <raster> woot
[04:15] <caseyomah> LOL @ Warbo
[04:15] <xhaan> heh
[04:15] <Warbo> (actually it's a verb, but I also spelt control wrong so who cares?)
[04:15] <caseyomah> Still a good one.
[04:16] <Sivik> whats so bad about vi?
[04:16] <caseyomah> So I guess I'll still have to DualBoot for my games (pun intended)
[04:16] <xhaan> i always have trouble remembering the commands for vi
[04:16] <StoneNote> caseyomah, there is always Cedega
[04:16] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: maybe i should install a clean ubuntu dapper
[04:16] <Flannel> Sivik: nothing, but for new people, you might as well suggest nano, its a lot easier
[04:16] <Sivik> Flannel, oh ok
[04:17] <caseyomah> If there was a trialware of Cedega, or freeware, then I'd go for it.
[04:17] <Flannel> caseyomah: it's called wine ;)
[04:17] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 well that would work but then what would we learn?
[04:17] <StoneNote> caseyomah, well yeah. that's the boat I'm on too but different folks and all that
[04:17] <Warbo> Sivik: I wrote a Wiki page about ATI drivers which used nano. Someone edited it and put vi, then when I recommended it to someone in here they broke their /etc/modules
[04:18] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: a week ago i never thought i would even think about that idea
[04:18] <gubuntu> warbo, can u help me with my ati problem?
[04:18] <Flannel> Warbo: Someone edited and put vi?  That's poor form.  I say revert it back to nano.
[04:18] <caseyomah> Well, I'm off to update my krnl, I'm using x-386 on a x-686 system.
[04:19] <Warbo> gubuntu: The page was actually for the alternative driver, which I discovered when I couldn't get ATI's drver working :( (what I will say is that the installer from ati.com seems to be the most reliable way of installing it)
[04:19] <shambler> dropline should come with ed
[04:19] <Sivik> Warbo: what cards does that ati wiki work for, i can't get my 200M Xpress to work no matter what i do
[04:19] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 try this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure libpango1.0-common"
[04:19] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: but it's my system where i work with
[04:19] <Sivik> caseyomah, i'm runnign x 386 on a 64 bit machine
[04:19] <Warbo> Flannel: Wasn't their only change, but I did put nano back in
[04:19] <Sivik> can i see that wiki Warbo?
[04:19] <Byan> damn it..
[04:19] <david__> I'm looking for some complete themes, with sounds backgrounds and start shutdown screens, anyone know where i can find them?
[04:19] <ardchoille> I have the fluxbox and xfonts-artwiz packages installed, but my fluxbox theme isn't seeing the artwiz fonts. How do I get fluxbox to see the artwiz fonts?
[04:19] <caseyomah> Sivik, I heard that the 64bit krnl wasn't fully debugged.
[04:19] <cute_bettong> can someone help me to set up this card with drivers and mythtv i think it is called? the card is a Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200] 
[04:20] <Warbo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[04:20] <Warbo> I think it only offers 3D on Radeon9200 and below
[04:20] <david__> only place i can find them is gnome-look.org
[04:20] <shambler> Byan, language
[04:20] <david__> but all i see there is compiz themes
[04:20] <david__> i don't even know what compiz is
[04:20] <Byan> how come editing the sources.list doesn't give me the ability to do apt-get install tor
[04:20] <caseyomah> apt-get update
[04:20] <caseyomah> Do re-read the list
[04:21] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: i think i tried that, but i'll try now. brb, restarting xserver
[04:21] <ardchoille> david__: AFAIK, you can't get "complete" themes like that. You have to install gdm theme, GTK theme, Metacity theme, splach screen all seperately.
[04:21] <Byan> caseyomah: already did apt-get update
[04:21] <Warbo> david__: There are loads of Metacity themes there if you look past the recent ones. Also try installing gnome-spashscreen-manager (I think it's called) and gnome-art
[04:21] <Sivik> caseyomah, the problem with the 64 bit kernels, is all the programs don't work with the 64 bit kernel yet
[04:21] <caseyomah> Byan, In that case I don't know.
[04:21] <Warbo> Byan: Make sure you run "sudo apt-get update"
[04:21] <Warbo> oh
[04:21] <david__> thanks ill try that
[04:22] <Warbo> Byan: Were you editing your sources to add Universe or to add a repo from eff.org?
[04:23] <Byan> I got it, having synaptic.., I don't know what happened the first time
[04:23] <cute_bettong> do i want the fglrx or the radeon module?
[04:23] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: still squares everywhere
[04:23] <Warbo> radeon will already be installed if you can use it. flgrx works on much more (and more recent) hardware
[04:23] <foo> how can I install flash for firefox on linux?
[04:24] <mordof> alright so i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, while it was dling and installing things, xserver-xorg installed and went to setup, but then i got a black screen for the rest of the setup (i just kept hitting enter when my comp finished loading until it rebooted, lol)
[04:24] <Warbo> !flash > foo
[04:24] <mordof> but now my username and password is incorrect
[04:24] <cute_bettong> Warbo, so don't worry about the fglrx thingy?
[04:24] <ciphex> does anyone know if the OEM installation method handles hardware identification differently than the desktop installer? (Drapper)
[04:24] <ciphex> Dapper even
[04:24] <mordof> is there any way i can change that without re-doing the entire installation?
[04:24] <Flannel> ciphex: it shouldn't no.
[04:25] <Flannel> mordof: you'll have to act like you 'forgot' your password
[04:25] <Flannel> !tell mordof about lostpassword
[04:25] <ardchoille> !artwiz
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about artwiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <Flannel> mordof: after you have a working account, you can add another user if you username is wrong
[04:25] <Warbo> cute_bettong: If you run "glxinfo | grep direct" and it says "Yes" then you already have 3D acceleration. If "lsmod | grep radeon" gives out any results then you are getting that from the Radeon driver. If the first one says "No" then you probably need fglrx for 3D acceleration
[04:25] <killown> where stay rc.conf script ?
[04:25] <shambler> sudo -c passwd
[04:26] <mordof> i don't know how to do that stuff
[04:26] <mordof> it's been a while since i was on ubuntu
[04:26] <ciphex> Flannel.... dapper seems to be recognizing my card as an ensoniq 1371 audio pci-97 but the card is a pci128 by creative what can i do about this?
[04:26] <Flannel> mordof: check the link ubotu sent you, it walks you through it
[04:26] <shambler> mordof, why did you come back
[04:26] <Warbo> killown: Startup scripts are in /etc/init.d, with links to /etc/rc<runlevel>.d
[04:26] <paradizelost> ciphex: what do you see if you do an lspci
[04:26] <paradizelost> what does it show up as
[04:27] <ciphex> ensoniq es1371
[04:27] <mordof> i liked it but one of my hard drives failed and i needed windows for some stuff, wasn't enough room to dual boot
[04:27] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: i have a slight idea how a depressed robot feels :-[
[04:27] <paradizelost> because it's not always what the box said, but what the chipset is
[04:27] <ciphex> pci-97
[04:27] <caseyomah> How do I make a program load whenever X is opened?
[04:27] <gubuntu> what do i do now to fix it though, i wont start X at all :(
[04:27] <lophyte> anyone know of an app that'll convert PDF to OpenDocument, Word, or Rich Text Format?
[04:28] <killown> Warbo what runlevel?
[04:28] <paradizelost> caseyomah: when X is opened, or when you log on?
[04:28] <gubuntu> ubotu, tell me about ati
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> caseyomah, System, Preferences, Session
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> s
[04:28] <shambler> e
[04:28] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 heh ya i bet... you definitly have a good problem here...  do you remember what the exact warning is pango throws
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> Startup Programs
[04:28] <paradizelost> nomasteryoda: that is only good if he's using gnome
[04:28] <mordof> Flannel, that only tells you how to generate strong passwords
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> ya
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> true
[04:28] <cute_bettong> brb testing the card now
[04:28] <caseyomah> Thank you nomasteryoda
[04:28] <obf213> need help opening utorrent with wine and needed sudo priveledges
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> well, since it is ubuntu channel..
[04:28] <Flannel> mordof: er, no it should tell you have to re-set it
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> kinda figured that
[04:28] <obf213> how do i encorpoarte in icon i told my firend to try gksudo but it ddidnt work
[04:28] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: i can reproduce it, just a sec
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> caseyomah, np
[04:29] <Flannel> mordof: or... maybe someone changed that link.  Odd, sorry.  Let me find you the real link
[04:29] <mordof> ok ty
[04:29] <mordof> it only shows how to generate strong passwords, nothing about changing one
[04:29] <Warbo> killown: "/etc/rc2.d/K20myscript" might point to "/etc/init.d/myscript", run at position 20 (larger numbers get run later in boot order) and it is run with the "stop" option (K). Ubuntu runs in runlevel 2 for graphics and 1 for recovery
[04:29] <shambler> i <3 2.4 kernel
[04:29] <ciphex> paadize: but i looked the card up using the model number printed on the physical card and i find: http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/drivers/88/88871.htm
[04:29] <Flannel> mordof: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[04:29] <mordof> does anyone know why xserver-xorg blanked out on me during install, but then works fine on reboot?
[04:29] <Flannel> mordof: someone mustve gotten overzealous making that factoid sound like an advertisement
[04:29] <ladydoor> !password
[04:29] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[04:30] <UnkwnTech> Hello I was trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 on my Server but it is not Recognising my network card (Realtek 8139) I search the fourms and was unsucessfull at finding a solution... can anyone help me out
[04:30] <JDStone> ok, different question, I have two mythtv packages, 0.18.1 and 0.19. how do I choose which one to install
[04:30] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: PANGO-Warning **: shape engine failure, expect ugly output. the offending font is 'DejaVu Sans Mono 9.99 etc.'
[04:30] <Sivik> JDStone, probably the newer one
[04:30] <killown> Warbo thanks
[04:30] <ciphex> is lspci always right?
[04:30] <mordof> ladydoor, yes he sent me that, but i don't even know if my password is right
[04:30] <JDStone> Sivik: will it automatically install the newer one?
[04:30] <mordof> during install i put in my username and password but it isn't taking it
[04:30] <Flannel> mordof: No, that link I sent you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[04:30] <ladydoor> mordof: ah.
[04:30] <DigitalNinja> how do I install develupment tools in dapper?
[04:31] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: PANGO-Warning **: pango_font_get_glyph_extents called with bad font, expect ugly outpt
[04:31] <Warbo> killown: To update these links run "update-rc.d <options>" (see it;s manual for details) then your changes won't get overwriten by new packages
[04:31] <UnkwnTech> can someone help me with the 8139 network card from ubuntu
[04:31] <digital> hello everyone
[04:31] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: which development tools?  you mean build-essential?
[04:31] <Sivik> JDStone, are you using apt-get to do it
[04:31] <JDStone> UnkwnTech: does it allow you to search for a network card
[04:31] <JDStone> Sivik: yes
[04:31] <killown> ok
[04:31] <Sivik> JDStone, it will install the newest one
[04:31] <JDStone> UnkwnTech: err, I mean driver
[04:31] <JDStone> ok, thanks Sivik
[04:32] <UnkwnTech> it shows the card but it will not obtain an IP from my DHCP or access any of my network recources
[04:32] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: Does that give me gcc etc...
[04:32] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: yeah
[04:32] <Sivik> JDStone, yw
[04:32] <UnkwnTech> i have tried a few sugestions i found on Google but with no resualts
[04:32] <digital> any chance that someone here would know how to configure my wacom tablet?
[04:33] <JDStone> hmm
[04:33] <UnkwnTech> from what I have read so far this card seems to be a problem
[04:33] <UnkwnTech> but I can't afford to replace it
[04:33] <JDStone> hmm, seems like your out of luck then
[04:33] <JDStone> just keep searching the forums
[04:33] <david__> When i instAll a theme the installer comes back and says theme was installed corectly, but i can't find it on my theme list, can someone help me out?
[04:33] <UnkwnTech> i know some people have gotten' it to work just not me
[04:33] <JDStone> what about a PCI network card UnkwnTech?
[04:33] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: Thanks
[04:33] <Rafa_brz> Hi.... I'm installing Ubuntu now...
[04:33] <Rafa_brz> however, i've got some problems!
[04:33] <Rafa_brz> Could someone help me?
[04:33] <Warbo> digital: There are a few help pages for them on help.ubuntu.com/community (I envy you Wacom owners with all of your guides, when us Aiptek owners only have out-of-date broken ones :()
[04:34] <JDStone> sorry, I have no suggestions
[04:34] <UnkwnTech> like i said i cant affrod it right now
[04:34] <obf213> he where is run
[04:34] <Rafa_brz> I can't change the screen resolution!
[04:34] <obf213> my frined has ubuntu and he wants to know where to find the run command
[04:34] <JDStone> UnkwnTech: check out #linuxn00b
[04:34] <Warbo> !fixres > Rafa_brz
[04:34] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 i found a link that said you can fix it by removing msttcorefonts was that the font you removed?
[04:34] <foo> How can I install radeon drivers for my video card?
[04:34] <Flannel> obf213: ctrl-f2 (or alt-f2, I cant remember)
[04:34] <Warbo> obf213: Alt-F2
[04:34] <obf213> Flannel Warbo thanks
[04:34] <UnkwnTech> jD is taht a chanel on this server
[04:34] <HellDragon> ok
[04:34] <UnkwnTech> that*
[04:35] <JDStone> UnkwnTech: yes
[04:35] <UnkwnTech> ok well thank you very much anyway
[04:35] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: exactly, i had that information found, too
[04:35] <JDStone> you're welcome UnkwnTech
[04:35] <digital> thanks warbo, I'll take a peek there. Just got my Ubuntu up and now I gotta get some hardware up to speed
[04:35] <ubuntu> hi
[04:35] <jbmigel> hopelessguy_1 argh it is hopeless! :P
[04:35] <david__> can someone hel;p me with a themes?
[04:35] <ciphex> what is the difference between the OEM install and normal desktop install (besides the oem user stuff)
[04:35] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: but then the pango-warning picked the next font (a ubuntu standard font)
[04:35] <Hamer> hello
[04:36] <Flannel> ciphex: nothing, just the oem user
[04:36] <Warbo> digital: There's a guy called Daller who keeps putting Tablet related guides on wiki.ubuntu.com as well
[04:36] <ciphex> ok
[04:36] <digital> so awesome, thanks a lot!
[04:36] <Hamer> How do i force quit a program because its not responding
[04:36] <b0ysc0ut> how can u tell what repository to trust?
[04:36] <crimsun> Hamer: double-click the close icon in the window bar
[04:36] <hopelessguy_1> jbmigel: i am sooo depressed ... i could lol all the time
[04:36] <Warbo> Hamer: "killall -s KILL programname" or if it is graphical you can use "xkill"
[04:36] <krazykit> Hamer: you could run xkill and click the offending window
[04:36] <secleinteer> b0ysc0ut: get the one at pyschocats.net - that will have everything you need
[04:37] <Flannel> b0ysc0ut: official ubuntu mirrors can be found ... well, a variety of ways, one of the easiest is !easysource
[04:37] <Hamer> its xmms
[04:37] <b0ysc0ut> i just add deb-src http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse
[04:37] <foo> How can I install radeon drivers for my video card on ubuntu? Hmm
[04:37] <Warbo> Hamer: Then run xkill and click the XMMS main window
[04:37] <b0ysc0ut> any advice on that?
[04:37] <Hamer> Sweet
[04:37] <Hamer> thx
[04:37] <secleinteer> foo: there are proprietary drivers at ati's site
[04:37] <Hamer> nvm
[04:37] <ciphex> are there any utilities that will let me specify other options for my audio card... apparently it is a creative 1373 chipset
[04:37] <foo> secleinteer: ok, so just use that? I didn't know if there was some easier ubuntu-way or something
[04:37] <Warbo> b0ysc0ut: Go on the site and see if they have a GPG key. If so then put it in System>Admin>Software Porperties
[04:38] <secleinteer> foo: yeah just use that
[04:38] <secleinteer> what model is your card?
[04:38] <foo> secleinteer: thanks
[04:38] <Hamer> Thanks
[04:38] <Hamer> ~~~~~
[04:38] <Flannel> b0ysc0ut: debuntu.org isn't an official ubuntu one, it's up to you whether you trust them
[04:38] <printk> is there a certain repo to get win32codecs for ubuntu?
[04:38] <foo> secleinteer: hm, 0000:02:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] 
[04:38] <raich> someone help mee.... i can't use this funne key... the one you #include files with in C/C++ ("less than/grater than") they key just won't print the character
[04:38] <secleinteer> foo: is that an old card?
[04:38] <Balei> hi
[04:38] <printk> !win32codec
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <secleinteer> because in that case, check for compatibility before download
[04:39] <printk> !codec
[04:39] <foo> secleinteer: Hm, not too old. I'm not too sure what you mean by "old"
[04:39] <foo> hm
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <Warbo> !restricted
[04:39] <hopelessguy_1> printk: yes there is. official repository
[04:39] <raich> someone help mee.... i can't use this funny key... the one you #include files with in C/C++ ("less than/grater than") the key just won't print the character
[04:39] <secleinteer> i mean old model
[04:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <secleinteer> basically, check the list of supported cards first
[04:39] <printk> ah there we go
[04:39] <Warbo> raich: Try Applications>Accessories>Character Map
[04:39] <MartySkitch> I have a Perl script to get my podcasts and it take about 10 minutes to run.  However when I run it as a cron job it quits after about a minute.  Any suggestions?
[04:40] <secleinteer> if they don't support it, you may have to use the open source version, which works with older cards as well
[04:40] <raich> k thx
[04:40] <kjm> damn, I really hosed my system.   Tried upgrading to Edgy Eft by apt-get dist-upgrade......anyone know of the cleanest way to do that?
[04:40] <b0ysc0ut> if i remove the repo..does it affect the updates i did tru them?
[04:40] <hopelessguy_1> printk: do you use gnome or kde?
[04:40] <Warbo> Radeon 7000 should have 3D support out-of-the-box
[04:40] <secleinteer> b0ysc0ut: no
[04:40] <printk> hopelessguy_1: gnome
[04:41] <Flannel> b0ysc0ut: right.  If you remove the repository, you can't get updates from those packages, the things youve installed still are installed though
[04:41] <printk> kjm: i just did that, worked fine for me.  What exactly is hosed?
[04:41] <david__> what themes will work with gnome?
[04:41] <b0ysc0ut> thanks guys
[04:41] <shambler> when will Musky Moose be released?
[04:41] <gubuntu> my problem is a parsing error in my x11 conf file, what is a non graphical text editor i can run from console??
[04:41] <Warbo> b0ysc0ut: Some packages which no longer exist in a repository may enter the "Obsolete or Locally Installed Packages" section in aptitude, but that is about it
[04:41] <david__> meta city gtk compiz?
[04:41] <ladydoor> shambler: tomorrow evening
[04:41] <shambler> ladydoor, link?
[04:41] <Warbo> david__: Metacity, GTK+2, GNOME icon themes
[04:41] <caseyomah> How do I revert to the ubuntu (Desktop) theme from the Edubuntu theme (I accidently installed)
[04:41] <hopelessguy_1> printk: you need to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-base, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly (and ugly-multiverse)
[04:41] <david__> ah, thanks
[04:42] <b0ysc0ut> any good repos around?
[04:42] <Warbo> david__: Compiz is a crazy window manager which you will know if you are using (your windows will wobble)
[04:42] <kjm> open office was conflicting with something....so I tried downgrading some packages. . . ended up having to use -f install - which I don't think would be heldful with a dist-upgrade;
[04:42] <Flannel> shambler: October of 2010
[04:42] <ladydoor> shambler: http://muskymoose.ubuntu.com/DOWNLOADS.html
[04:42] <shambler> ladydoor, 404
[04:42] <david__> do you use cimpiz?
[04:42] <printk> hopelessguy_1: ok thanks, i'm still trying to figure out where i can get w32codecs too
[04:42] <gubuntu> anyone? non grpahical text editor i can invoke from the console to edit my x conf file?
[04:42] <Flannel> b0ysc0ut: the official ubuntu repos are pretty good
[04:42] <Flannel> gubuntu: nano
[04:42] <ladydoor> gubuntu: nano
[04:42] <ciphex> ok... check this out... lspci is reporting that my card is a Ensoniq 1371 card BUT the gateway website spec calls it 1373 and there are two different linux profiles 1) ES1371 AudioPCI-97 and 2) ES1373 AudioPCI  (i see the profiles in some config file posted to the net)   how do i get my sound card to use a different profile from what it thinks it should be using?
[04:42] <gubuntu> thanks!
[04:42] <ladydoor> gubuntu: (use nano -w, actually)
[04:43] <Warbo> david__: I have used it, but I don't like it. It is too much like Metacity for me
[04:43] <hopelessguy_1> printk: i'm going to that, too =)
[04:43] <gubuntu> whats -w ?
[04:43] <foo> secleinteer: hm, on the site it says this: RADEON 8500 Series and higher
[04:43] <foo> Hm, how can I install java on ubuntu? Hm
[04:43] <ladydoor> gubuntu: it makes it not break lines of code in half
[04:43] <Flannel> gubuntu: no-wrap
[04:43] <raich> Warbo: can't find it....
[04:43] <kjm> perhaps I should start from fresh install - them upgrade to 6.10? Then I can install whatever software I want?
[04:43] <caseyomah> printk, What codecs do you want? the only "win32codec" I know about would be a WMV codec...
[04:43] <secleinteer> foo: then use the open source version
[04:43] <kjm> !java > foo
[04:43] <gubuntu> perfect
[04:43] <secleinteer> i don't know much about that
[04:43] <foo> secleinteer: hm, ok.
[04:43] <printk> yah wmv
[04:43] <Warbo> raich: You in Dapper?
[04:43] <secleinteer> sorry it doens't work
[04:43] <b0ysc0ut> thanx
[04:43] <hopelessguy_1> printk: you'll need gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad (bad-multiverse), gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, gstreamer 0.10-gl, gstreamer0.10-pitdll (w32codecs)
[04:43] <raich> Warbo: yep
[04:44] <Warbo> raich: Maybe you can add it with Alacarte (also in Accessories)
[04:44] <hopelessguy_1> printk: and finally libquicktime0
[04:44] <foo> secleinteer: hm, ok, would you happen to know where that's at?
[04:44] <raich> Warbo: ok ok, found it
[04:44] <UnkwnTech> ill ask in here again....
[04:44] <kjm> or, are point releases of edgy available in iso download now?
[04:44] <raich> Warbo: dude, couldn't find the char, not the program
[04:44] <secleinteer> foo: no, sorry. i have an x300, which is supported
[04:44] <Warbo> kjm: Yes they are
[04:44] <raich> Warbo: ok, found it, now what?
[04:44] <b0ysc0ut> can i remove GPG Key's?
[04:44] <ladydoor> kjm: edgy knot one is available
[04:44] <raich> Warbo: how do i make my keyboard print it again?
[04:44] <UnkwnTech> does anyone know a solution to getting a realtek 8139 network card to work on 6.06
[04:44] <kjm> cool.  All I want to know.  I will check it out then.
[04:44] <Sivik> Warbo: does your wiki work for Xpress 200M
[04:44] <kjm> Cheers,
[04:44] <Warbo> raich: You can use that to enter any character you can't get your keyboard to do
[04:44] <hopelessguy_1> printk: after that, you should be able to play almost every codec :-) --- okay, at least a lot of them
[04:45] <Balei> Offtopic-Question:   is there any native english speaker who would like to help me controling some stuff if the grammer is ok?
[04:45] <Warbo> Sivik: I doubt it (that sounds new, 'cos it has an X in it)
[04:45] <raich> Warbo: ok, i know that, but what i meant was that my keyboard HAS a key labeled with this char and that it printed it beofre... but now it doesn't
[04:45] <foo> secleinteer: hm, ok, thanks
[04:45] <iceman2k> Anyone what would be the best Desktop to theme to get a OSX look ?
[04:45] <secleinteer> foo: np
[04:45] <Sivik> Warbo, is your for older ati cards?
[04:45] <ladydoor> Warbo: that's a sign of newness? X has been around since the '80's :-)
[04:45] <bluefusionxl> Hi, how do I get Apache to boot up on startup?  I compiled from source
[04:45] <Warbo> iceman2k: There are loads of threads about that in the forums
[04:45] <UnkwnTech> iceman just get OSX
[04:46] <Shadow_pillar> question
[04:46] <iceman2k> Warbo asking mainly for openions, from users ?
[04:46] <ramus> anyone get xgl(or aiglx)/compiz working on intel graphics cards?
[04:46] <Shadow_pillar> where would I post about a new repository for misc apps on the ubuntu forums?
[04:46] <Warbo> Sivik: Yes that driver works on loads of cards, but doesn't offer anything more than the standard "ati" one on cards newer than about Radeon 9200 (which is what I use)
[04:46] <hopelessguy_1> printk: i forgot: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[04:46] <Shadow_pillar> one that I made for some misc unofficial packages?
[04:46] <bluefusionxl> can anyone tell me how do I get Apache to boot up on startup?  I compiled from source
[04:46] <raich> Warbo: any ideas?...
[04:47] <Sivik> Warbo, grand, i have been working since i got this computer to get my ati card to work
[04:47] <hopelessguy_1> printk: these are the w32 codecs which pitdll will use
[04:47] <foo> I did  apt-get install sun-java5-jre but it doesn't seem to work. Do I need to do something else? Hm
[04:47] <Flannel> foo: are you running dapper?
[04:47] <bluefusionxl> foo what browser you usin?
[04:47] <foo> bluefusionxl: firefox
[04:48] <foo> Flannel: yes, 6.06
[04:48] <raich> hey i got this key labeled with "less-than" and it worked OK, but now my keyboard just won't print it
[04:48] <printk> hopelessguy_1: thanks a bunch... ok great got everything installed and downloading the w32codecs file
[04:48] <bluefusionxl>  you need to configure firefox for the plugin.  I could never to get it to work, but i'd suggest a firefox channel.
[04:48] <iceman2k> Should I use Gnome, or XFCE, or KDE, what would theme best to get a OSX look .
[04:48] <printk> iceman2k: for OSX look i'd say gnome... but really any of them you can make look like OSX
[04:48] <bluefusionxl> I used Kubuntu once and i could get it working with Konquerer
[04:48] <Flannel> foo: do you have multiverse enabled?
[04:48] <Byan> uhm, I have samba set up and stuff, and it's working great.., but how do I make it so they can't use an unlimited amount of HDD space?
[04:48] <Byan> so each user*
[04:48] <UnkwnTech> does anyone know how to make the realtek 8139 network card work
[04:48] <bluefusionxl> what does samba do?
[04:49] <hopelessguy_1> printk: no problem. i hope if i help enogh people, my karma will fix the problems i'm having with my system :)
[04:49] <bluefusionxl> Is it like networking with windows pcs?
[04:49] <jsedgwick> Which is IYO is better: Anjuta or Code::Blocks?
[04:49] <Byan> bluefusionxl: mhmm
[04:49] <Flannel> bluefusionxl: right, it allows linux to network
[04:49] <ladydoor> !samba > bluefusionxl
[04:49] <sethk> jsedgwick, I prefer anjuta, but try both
[04:49] <raich> hey i got this key labeled with "less-than" and it worked OK, but now my keyboard just won't print it
[04:49] <printk> hopelessguy_1: heh
[04:49] <bluefusionxl> Sweet, I'll install it.  So will my windows pc pick up my linux server on the network if i install it?
[04:49] <foo> How can I modify what services start on start up? I don't see a chkconfig on here. hmm
[04:49] <Byan> bluefusionxl: yep
[04:50] <bluefusionxl> now can someone tell me how i get apache to start at boot?
[04:50] <bluefusionxl> awesome
[04:50] <jsedgwick> sethk: i don't have access to a linux installation atm. could you give me a quick runthrough of what you think is most different?
[04:50] <jsedgwick> sethk: rather, what's better in each
[04:50] <Byan> bluefusionxl: did you do that apt-get stuffs? if so, it will already
[04:50] <sethk> jsedgwick, I've really only used anjuta substantially, I haven't had time to check the other carefully
[04:50] <iceman2k> printk looking for openions thanks, gnome themes ok, need to study and try xfce more, never worked with it much yet
[04:50] <Byan> otherwise, you need to add a script into /etc/init.d/
[04:50] <Warbo> iceman2k: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200892&highlight=osx+theme < example
[04:50] <jsedgwick> sethk: thanks
[04:50] <sethk> jsedgwick, anjuta does a great job of producing a configure script for a package
[04:51] <raich> hey i got this key labeled with "less-than" sign and it worked OK, but now my keyboard just won't print it
[04:51] <iceman2k> Warbo thanks
[04:51] <sethk> jsedgwick, that was the main thing I used it for.  Usually I don't bother with an IDE, I just use an editor
[04:51] <bluefusionxl> lord this php makefile is long.
[04:51] <Byan> anyways.. I still need to limit each user's disk allowment
[04:51] <bluefusionxl> Byan: No, I did it from source.  How do I do it with init.d
[04:51] <caseyomah> raich, Hold Shift when you press it.
[04:51] <sethk> jsedgwick, I copied in my source code, my makefile, and more or less pushed a button and got a working configure script
[04:51] <brucedes> wow, finally got azureus working on ppc, at 3.50 am >.<
[04:51] <raich> caseyomah: nothing
[04:51] <UnkwnTech> blue just add /etc/apache2/apachectl start to init.d
[04:52] <Warbo> Anyone know how I can get the latest Deskbar in Dapper? Edgy's package depends on stuff which depends on newer libc
[04:52] <raich> caseyomah: it should work without a shift
[04:52] <Knelix> anyone know anythign about mame?
[04:52] <Flannel> Warbo: compile it yourself.
[04:52] <brucedes> its an arcade emulator knelix
[04:52] <UnkwnTech> GGGRRRRR i cant network my Ubuntu
[04:52] <Warbo> Flannel: Well it's Python, so I was wondering if it would actually BE in CVS or whatever
[04:52] <brucedes> but you probably already knew that :P
[04:52] <UnkwnTech> my card is shit
[04:53] <Raziekiel> If I want to run a game (myst uru) is wine what I want to  use?
[04:53] <jbmigel> Byan google disk quotas
[04:53] <bluefusionxl> how exactly do i add apa to init.d
[04:53] <bluefusionxl> apache
[04:53] <brucedes> unknwtech: whats up?
[04:53] <Flannel> Warbo: sure, it might be.
[04:53] <sethk> raich, the < or > key?  what keyboard has that not shifted?
[04:53] <Warbo> I'll check anyway...
[04:53] <caseyomah> What is the best driver for a Radeon 9200?
[04:53] <justin_> Raziekiel: Yes
[04:53] <Raziekiel> Thanks justin_!
[04:53] <UnkwnTech> I am using the Realtek 8139 card and it appears (from what i've read) that it needs tweaking but i cant get it to work
[04:53] <justin_> Raziekiel: However, not all games will run in wine - see winehq, for their compatible lists
[04:54] <Raziekiel> Alright, will do =D
[04:54] <kd_> anyone can help me with wireless?
[04:54] <sethk> caseyomah, it isn't as if you have a choice of drivers.  there is only one that works, or you can suffer with a generic svga driver
[04:54] <raich> sethk: mine i supose.... this key is labeled with BOTH greater- and less-than, one with and the other without shift
[04:54] <sethk> raich, which language, I mean
[04:54] <justin_> caseyomah: fglrx
[04:54] <brucedes> unkwntech: I had that card in my pc, it worked flawlessly out of the box
[04:54] <caseyomah> sethk, So ATI's proprietary.
[04:54] <bluefusionxl> how exactly do i add apaache to init.d
[04:54] <hopelessguy_1> so. i'm still here. my gnome desktop hates me, google curses me with irrelevant hits. and i can't decipher any letter on my desktop - there are squares everywhere. i am really, really depressed
[04:54] <sethk> caseyomah, yes.
[04:54] <UnkwnTech> some people it works others it doesn't
[04:54] <caseyomah> Just verifying, I just installed it.
[04:54] <raich> sethk: not sure, really, no layout worked exactly like my keyboard.... i live in peru though (spanish, maybe Latin American)
[04:54] <foo> How can I modify what services start on start up? I don't see a chkconfig on here. hmm
[04:55] <Knelix> brucedes, I know. I should have bee more specific. I'm having problems with it. My ROM list suddenly disappeared and won't come back after a res. switch. Even after a reboot and rebuilding/reauding games, etc... I just don't know what to do.
[04:55] <foo> I did  apt-get install sun-java5-jre but it doesn't seem to work. Do I need to do something else? Hm
[04:55] <gubuntu> !xgl
[04:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:55] <kd_> wireless anone?
[04:55] <justin_> foo init.d
[04:55] <UnkwnTech> blue i would sugest going to the apache site or going to google
[04:55] <sethk> raich, thanks.  I hadn't seen that layout, which is why I'm curious.
[04:55] <Flannel> foo: you need multiverse enabled
[04:55] <CharonX> Does anyone know how to get sound working with thunderbird in dapper? All I get is a scratch when trying to prevew a wav file in thunderbird, but the wav plays fine in xmms ?
[04:55] <Raziekiel> justin_:  Does wine work on ubuntu64?
[04:55] <bluefusionxl> ubotu is a bot lol
[04:55] <brucedes> knelix: try the mame forum if they have one
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <sethk> raich, is it an extra key sort of where the left shift is on an english kb?
[04:55] <foo> Flannel: For what? java? Yeah, it installed successfully
[04:55] <jbmigel> caseyomah the 9200 chipset is supported with open source driver in xorg... you dont need to install anything "glxinfo | grep direct" should return "yes"
[04:55] <foo> justin_: There was a nicer program than that.
[04:55] <justin_> Raziekiel: not sure im 32 :)
[04:55] <bluefusionxl> apache doesn't give a good explanation and google sucks at this search
[04:55] <bluefusionxl> lol
[04:55] <Knelix> brucedes, actually that's what I'm trying to find...
[04:56] <raich> sethk: i think + and - or _ is besides "0" on US keyboards rite?
[04:56] <UnkwnTech> allrighty then im out of here
[04:56] <Raziekiel> Hehe I'm thinking of installing 32 just to simplify things
[04:56] <bluefusionxl> thanks for your help
[04:56] <iceman2k> there a way to apt-get cadegia ? the windows emulator ?
, try going to System>Administration>Language support
[04:56] <CharonX> Raziekiel, I am looking at installing wine soon. And am on 64
[04:56] <bluefusionxl> cany anyone tell me how to add apache to init.d?
[04:56] <brucedes> see if your default language is set right
[04:56] <raich> sethk: o well, im not sure :D
[04:56] <Flannel> iceman2k: wine, not cegeda, cegeda isn't free
[04:56] <caseyomah> raich, 0-= (in order)
[04:56] <CharonX> Raziekiel, have you tried yet ?
[04:56] <ladydoor> raich: yeah--it's -, which shifts to _
[04:56] <raich> caseyomah: sethk: i have = shifted on 0 key
[04:57] <Raziekiel> CharonX:  Not yet, getting ready to now. I'm a linux newb so wish me luck lol
[04:57] <iceman2k> Flannel herd there was a Free distro for cageda ?
[04:57] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: already did that. settings are correct. no asian setting =)
[04:57] <caseyomah> raich, I have no idea about other layouts.
[04:57] <CharonX> Raziekiel, best of luck. Im my case its been years since I installed wine
[04:57] <ladydoor> iceman2k: cvs?
[04:57] <iceman2k> ladydoor there a way to apt-get it ?
[04:57] <kd_> wireless anyone?
[04:57] <ladydoor> iceman2k: no
[04:57] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: that's why i'm so depressed
[04:57] <brucedes> go to system>preferences>font
[04:57] <ladydoor> iceman2k: you have to compile cvs from source
[04:57] <brucedes> see if the desktop font is wrong
[04:57] <raich> omg this sucks
[04:57] <justin_> Cedega.. is pretty good, although - the idea of taking of making money of the wine project, and closing it off from other devels... doesn't seem right.
[04:57] <sethk> raich, that I've seen, I think on a spanish kb
[04:58] <raich> i can't even write a freaking program
[04:58] <justin_> off*
[04:58] <Byan> >_< no one wants to answer me
[04:58] <iceman2k> ladydoor man install. ouch ... wounder how battlefield 2 would preform in wine ?
[04:58] <sethk> ladydoor, iceman2k I don't think that's correct.  cvs is available
[04:58] <justin_> raich: Read some more, you'll get there :D
[04:58] <brucedes> This is irrelevant but: Crossover mac works great :P
[04:58] <raich> nah thanks fro the interest, but nothing seems to work out....
[04:58] <ladydoor> sethk: don't think what's correct?
[04:58] <raich> nah, nvm anyways im so psised off rite now
[04:58] <raich> gb
[04:58] <raich> tk
[04:58] <raich> happy ubuntuing all
[04:58] <shambler> lol
[04:59] <shambler> ubuntu isnt for people that know how to compile programs
[04:59] <sethk> ladydoor, iceman2k   cvs is available in a package.  I'm getting the name now
[04:59] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: i've checked that. had nice help finding it (menu text is just squares)
[04:59] <justin_> shambler: Why not?
[04:59] <foo> Flannel: Any ideas?
[04:59] <ladydoor> sethk: i'm talking about cvs cedega
[04:59] <shambler> justin_, its for human beings
[04:59] <justin_> Compiling and coding programs is half the fun :D
[04:59] <ladydoor> sethk: that's not available in apt-get
[04:59] <shambler> not computer engineers
[04:59] <iceman2k> sethk cvs is ? what ?
[04:59] <brucedes> so what, all your menus and such are garbled?
[04:59] <justin_> shambler: Sure, but it is still powerful enough - if you want to.
[04:59] <Taxman2> hello all. What file controls what modules are loaded on boot?
[04:59] <ladydoor> sethk: cvs is available in synaptic, as is svn
[04:59] <CharonX> Can you have wine and Cedega installed at the same time ? Or will they get along like debian and gentoo devs ?
[04:59] <justin_> Of course Ubuntu is pretty easy, compared to other distros.. :)
[04:59] <ladydoor> sethk: *in the repos
[04:59] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: just squares
[05:00] <shambler> justin_, once you install gcc its debian not ubuntu :P
[05:00] <brucedes> could I get a screen grab
[05:00] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: i'll try :)
[05:00] <shambler> justin_, well other distros have one less step to compiling...dont need a million dev packages
[05:00] <ubuntu__> yoo
[05:00] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: just a sec
[05:00] <ubuntu__> yo
[05:00] <brucedes> I can never get a program to compile in ubuntu, but install gentoo scares me >.< Plus apt-get rocks
[05:00] <ubuntu__> Can someone help me
[05:00] <brucedes> whats up ubuntu__
[05:00] <ladydoor> iceman2k: and cvs is a way to co-operatively work on code. it's useful and sometimes a good source for bleeding-edge software
[05:00] <justin_> shambler: True, well then call me Mr Debian, I can't live without my GCC.. :D
[05:00] <ubuntu__> When I load up my xmms with a music and try to play, it freezes...
[05:01] <foo> I did  apt-get install sun-java5-jre but it doesn't seem to work. Do I need to do something else? Hm
[05:01] <shambler> justin_, tru dat
[05:01] <ubuntu__> and when i xkill it and try to load the program it dosent load
[05:01] <Gevaudan> foo: update-alternatives --config java i think it is
[05:01] <justin_> brucedes: It's probably because you either did not add GCC build-essential, or you are lacking libraries - which is as easy as searching synaptic for'em.
[05:01] <sethk> ladydoor, you meant the CVS source code version is available through CVS?  I guess ...
[05:01] <CharonX> ubuntu__, have you tried changing your output plugin ?
[05:01] <brucedes> I suspect the audio device is set wrong in it, hold on a sec, i'll try to find how to change it
[05:01] <ubuntu__> CharonX
[05:01] <ubuntu__> where?
[05:01] <CharonX> ubuntu__, Open xmms, and go into options
[05:02] <ubuntu__> I JUST told u
[05:02] <foo> Gevaudan: hm, /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1, /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java, or  /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java ?
[05:02] <ladydoor> sethk: what're you talking about? i'd heard that a cvs version of cedega existed, though since i'm not a gamer i don't even have wine
[05:02] <ubuntu__> when i open it
[05:02] <ubuntu__> it dosent show up
[05:02] <Gevaudan> foo: press 3
[05:02] <brucedes> although, if I may be honest, banshee is the best music player for linux :)
[05:02] <ubuntu__> (2nd time i open it after xkilling it)
[05:02] <justin_> brucedes: Amarok, is the worst
[05:02] <justin_> It's pretty though, i'll give it that - too bad, it hardly works properly
[05:02] <ubuntu__> i just opened it
[05:02] <ladydoor> sethk: and i was telling someone that they had to compile the cvs version from source
[05:02] <brucedes> banshee is cool because its iTunes like
[05:02] <CharonX> ubuntu__, does it still have a process running ?
[05:02] <sethk> ladydoor, what I meant is that a cvs version is the same thing as a source version.
[05:02] <ubuntu__> how can i check
[05:02] <CharonX> ubuntu__, ps ax | grep xmms
[05:02] <ubuntu__> btw it does that after i xkill
[05:02] <kmac> anyone have any initial problems getting their soundblaster live sound card to work in ubuntu breezy?
[05:02] <brucedes> but what would really rock is like a mac version of wine, to run mac apps on ppc linux
[05:02] <ubuntu__> and i log out
[05:03] <ladydoor> sethk: ah. yeah, only more bleeding-edge :-)
[05:03] <ubuntu__> charon
[05:03] <Gevaudan> brucedes: i'm really impressed by amarok...very slick
[05:03] <ubuntu__> how do i go to its options
[05:03] <digivore> Is there an alternative to 'Wireless Assistant'   in Ubuntu?
[05:03] <CharonX> ubuntu__, click on the top left corner and open the menu
[05:03] <ubuntu__> Charonx
[05:03] <ubuntu__> i did
[05:03] <ubuntu__> i see
[05:03] <brucedes> right click
[05:03] <ubuntu__> now what
[05:03] <Demio> hello
[05:03] <tizwonder> Hey, does anyone know of any program that allows you to listen to online radio/etc?
[05:03] <brucedes> options
[05:03] <brucedes> then preferences
[05:03] <Taxman2> hmm, on boot when trying to load the driver for my wirelss card I get a cs: warning no high memory space available  then cs: unable to map card memory
[05:04] <ubuntu__> and then
[05:04] <Demio> whenver I try to use my dvd drive I get this error
[05:04] <Demio> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "dvdrecorder"
[05:04] <Gevaudan> tizwonder: gstreamer does i think...never used it though
[05:04] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7035/squaresvi3.png
[05:04] <brucedes> and change your output plugin
[05:04] <justin_> brucedes: So create a mac version of "Wine" call it "Mine" :) - no one is stopping you, heck you can steal the source and sell it for a profit - like the jerks at Cedega basically did :P
[05:04] <Luakagon> How do I get a Buhid script for my charmap?
[05:04] <ubuntu__> to what
[05:04] <ubuntu__> change it to what
[05:04] <Demio> how do I fix: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "dvdrecorder"
[05:04] <justin_> Demio. run it as sudo
[05:04] <Demio> hmm
[05:04] <Gevaudan> Demio:  check /etc/fstab
[05:04] <gubuntu> im having trouble following this guide for xgl, does anyone have an alternate to the one provided with !xgl
[05:04] <brucedes> because wine is an x86 app, and its for running windows apps, not mac
[05:04] <Demio> with what, gedit?
[05:04] <justin_> gubuntu: -#ubuntu-xgl
[05:05] <CharonX> ubuntu__, you should have alsa and oss in there. Try one that is different then the current one
[05:05] <Ademan> all of the sudden i can't ssh (through GNOME/Nautilus) into my webserver, but i can do it through the console...
[05:05] <brucedes> wow hopelessguy
[05:05] <brucedes> that is pretty messed up
[05:05] <ubuntu__> ok
[05:05] <ubuntu__> apply then ok?
[05:05] <CharonX> Yes
[05:05] <ubuntu__> OK
[05:05] <ubuntu__> charonx
[05:05] <tizwonder> Gevaudan: ahh... synaptic says i already have gstreamer installed.. how do i load it?  gstreamer cmd does nothing and i cant find it in gui :P
[05:05] <justin_> Ademan: Are you sure your links to the ssh file, have not changed - or been wiped, since the last time you started the program?
[05:05] <ubuntu__> when i press play on the xmms
[05:05] <Demio> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[05:05] <Demio> /dev/hda6       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[05:05] <Demio> /dev/hda5       /downloads-ntfs ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:05] <Demio> /dev/hda8       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[05:05] <Demio> /dev/hdb1       /tralha-ntfs    ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:05] <brucedes> and ubuntu: just experimenting would work, to see which one does work and which doesn't
[05:05] <Demio> /dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:05] <Demio> /dev/hda7       none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:05] <ubuntu__> it gives me play files
[05:05] <Demio> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:05] <brucedes> demio: use the pastboard
[05:06] <adam12> I now have dapper up and running with a gui desktop running on it.  I wnated to play sround with PHP on it,  can anyone give me soem tips on how to get this setup?
[05:06] <ubuntu__> chax
[05:06] <CharonX> yea ?
[05:06] <Ademan> justin_: links? either way i tried redoing the connection through "Connect to Server" from the places menu
[05:06] <ubuntu__> umm
[05:06] <brucedes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ demio
[05:06] <brucedes> use that
[05:06] <DBO> Demio, dont paste long files please =)
[05:06] <ubuntu__> it goes to a play list
[05:06] <justin_> adam12: Install LAMP - and your all set.
[05:06] <ubuntu__> play files
[05:06] <ubuntu__> it goes to play files
[05:06] <CharonX> ubuntu__, you need something to put in the playlist.....
[05:06] <Demio> sorry
[05:06] <ubuntu__> i do
[05:06] <ubuntu__> have songs
[05:06] <ubuntu__> so i click the song
[05:06] <ubuntu__> and then what
[05:06] <justin_> Ademan: Yes, you usually need to tell the program where SSH is - /usr/bin/ssh etc - in the options somewhere
[05:06] <ladydoor> !paste > demio
[05:07] <CharonX> ubuntu__,  if you double click a song in the playlist it should start playing
[05:07] <brucedes> btw hopelessguy: nice theme, whats it called :P
[05:07] <Ademan> justin_: well i don't know how it would have been changed
[05:07] <ubuntu__> ok
[05:07] <david__> is anyone runnong limewire?
[05:07] <brucedes> eew...limewire
[05:07] <brucedes> use frostwire
[05:07] <ubuntu__> i cant open
[05:07] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: i would tell you, if i could read the name =)
[05:07] <ubuntu__> it says:
[05:07] <Ademan> david__: don't, use something half decent like aMule
[05:07] <ubuntu__> plz check that:
[05:07] <Demio> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22404
[05:07] <CharonX> ubuntu__, What messges do you get ?
[05:07] <justin_> Ademan: It could if you did not apply changes, anyways - double check your programs options - see if there is not an option that is without arguments to the SSH exec.
[05:07] <Demio> thats my fstab
[05:07] <ubuntu__> ur soundcard is configured properly
[05:07] <brucedes> touche hopeless
[05:07] <ubuntu__> u have the correct output plugin selected
[05:07] <CharonX> Ah
[05:08] <ubuntu__> no other program is blocking the soundcard
[05:08] <brucedes> does anyone know why when I try to run gaim with msn, it crashes?
[05:08] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: it's a theme from compiz-themes
[05:08] <justin_> david__: Yes, I am running limewire - sometimes, anyways...
[05:08] <CharonX> ubuntu__, hang on a sec
[05:08] <foo> Gevaudan: hm, restarted firefox, still no go. Any other ideas?
[05:08] <david__> i tried it, its too much for me, amule
[05:08] <Ademan> justin_: what program? i'm just using nautilus' network transparency
[05:08] <justin_> Ademan: Nautilus, is a program...
[05:08] <CharonX> ubuntu__, is this a new ubuntu install ?
[05:08] <ubuntu__> =(
[05:08] <ubuntu__> its a live cd
[05:08] <Ademan> justin_: i realize that, but how would i have changed the config for it?
[05:08] <Demio> Gevaudan, what should I do now?
[05:08] <justin_> Most programs - need to know where SSH is, they do not automatically know that
[05:08] <CharonX> ubuntu__, ok, so its not installed on your hd ?
[05:09] <brucedes> hopelessguy: try posting the image in the ubuntu forums and asking for help
[05:09] <ubuntu__> no
[05:09] <Demio> theres no dvdrecorder in the fstab
[05:09] <ubuntu__> it was SUPPOSED TO :@
[05:09] <Ademan> justin_: but it was working before...
[05:09] <ubuntu__> thats why im using this cd
[05:09] <david__> where do i get frostwire?
[05:09] <ubuntu__> cant access to xp=(
[05:09] <brucedes> google it david__
[05:09] <justin_> Ademan: Ok well, if you do not check your options - you are still no closer to having it work with SSH again.
[05:09] <Ademan> ubuntu__: what's your problem?
[05:09] <ubuntu__> www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[05:09] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: i did, no anwser - looks like nobody knows
[05:09] <ubuntu__> ademan
[05:09] <ardchoille> !info frostwire
[05:09] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in any distro I know
[05:09] <david__> can i get it on the synaptic package manager?
[05:09] <tizwonder> can anyone tell me a program i can use to listen to online radio stations :P
[05:09] <ubuntu__> i forgot admin pass
[05:09] <Ademan> justin_: where do i check nautilus options?
[05:09] <ubuntu__> to repair windows i need it
[05:09] <brucedes> I could suggest the ultimate blanket solution
[05:09] <shambler> gxine is a horrendous program
[05:10] <foo> Gevaudan: hm, restarted firefox, still no go. Any other ideas?
[05:10] <foo> whoops
[05:10] <brucedes> aka: backup, reformat
[05:10] <Gevaudan> Demio: i didn't see your cdrom mounted...it should look like this (i'm on vmware so things might be different for you:  /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:10] <brucedes> or....when did the problem start?
[05:10] <Gevaudan> foo: hold up, i can't remember what your problem was, scrolling up :)
[05:10] <justin_> Ademan: Usually - file - options, preferences - edit-> preferences etc ... if all else fails read the manual that came with Nautilus.
[05:10] <Demio> well
[05:10] <ubuntu__> bruce who u taling do
[05:10] <ubuntu__> to*
[05:10] <hopelessguy_1> brucedes: after a normal update
[05:10] <ubuntu__> talking to*
[05:10] <Demio> I have a cdrom drive and a dvdrecorder drive
[05:10] <Demio> the cdrom one works
[05:10] <brucedes> hopelessguy_1
[05:10] <ubuntu__> k
[05:10] <b0ysc0ut> is there any way u can conf evolution with yahoo or hotmail?
[05:10] <Demio> but the dvdrecorder isnt even mmounted
[05:10] <justin_> I do not use Gnome so Im not sure exactly, but options/preferences - are usually in the edit/file list
[05:10] <CharonX> ubuntu__, go back into options.
[05:10] <brucedes> I doubt this'll work, but try changing the theme
[05:10] <ardchoille> david__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:11] <ubuntu__> ok
[05:11] <joaquin> pudranse malditos estupidos de mierda
[05:11] <CharonX> ubuntu__, for xmms, which output are you using right now ?
[05:11] <joaquin> fock you
[05:11] <Demio> the cdrom one is mounted
[05:11] <CharonX> and what is available
[05:11] <justin_> Demio: Did you mount the dvd recorder?
[05:11] <Demio> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:11] <Demio> how do i do that?
[05:11] <ubuntu__> i changed it to ALSA 1.2.10 output plugin [libALSA.so] 
[05:11] <justin_> Mount /dev/media/whatever - mount /dev/whatever
[05:11] <hopelessguy_1> joaquin: that's not nice - there are people who understand that =)
[05:11] <brucedes> ubuntu__: set your output to oss. That usually works for me
[05:11] <justin_> undercase of course, linux is case sensitive
[05:11] <ubuntu__> ..
[05:11] <ubuntu__> it was
[05:11] <ubuntu__> that
[05:11] <foo> Gevaudan: scrolling? /lastlog foo
[05:11] <b0ysc0ut> joaquin ke bobo eres
[05:11] <foo> Gevaudan: :P
[05:11] <Ademan> justin_: there's no option in edit-> preferences dialog
[05:12] <Ademan> regarding ssh
[05:12] <Demio> shouldnt I just mount /media/dvdrecorder ?
[05:12] <ubuntu__> OSS Driver 1.2.10
[05:12] <ubuntu__> thats what it was
[05:12] <Ademan> i'm pretty sure its a gnome-vfs issue
[05:12] <Gevaudan> foo: hmm...not sure about this myself, it appears the java plugin isn't installed for me either although i can access things fromt he command line fine...do a search for "stanton fedora 5" in google...there's a line about installing the java plugin in firefox there...adjust the path to your java home
[05:12] <Demio> do i need to put the /dev/ before?
[05:12] <ubuntu__> and i changed it to alsa
[05:12] <justin_> Ademan: Well then best read the manual, or FAQ - SSH has to be somewhere ----> Google, Nautilius SSH
[05:12] <brucedes> there should be other options ubuntu__ try them all
[05:12] <CharonX> ubuntu__, click configure
[05:12] <brucedes> you should experiment
[05:12] <justin_> Demio: Yeah, and if you have not mounted it.. thats why you cannot access it
[05:12] <ubuntu__> configure on
[05:12] <ubuntu__> ALSA
[05:12] <ubuntu__> or other one
[05:12] <CharonX> ubuntu__, and see if you can select your hardware... and play with that
[05:12] <CharonX> ubuntu__, try alsa first
[05:12] <ardchoille> I have the fluxbox and xfonts-artwiz packages installed, but my fluxbox theme isn't seeing the artwiz fonts. How do I get fluxbox to see the artwiz fonts?
[05:13] <Demio> wtf
[05:13] <Demio> i did the mount command
[05:13] <Demio> it says
[05:13] <shambler> lol fluxbox
[05:13] <justin_> Demio: You need to mount whatever your DVD rom shows up as in /dev/ or /dev/media
[05:13] <Demio> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc is already mounted on /media/dvdrecorder
[05:13] <ubuntu__> uhh
[05:13] <ubuntu__> Audio Device right
[05:13] <ubuntu__> i clicked it ..
[05:13] <CharonX> ubuntu__, yes
[05:13] <ubuntu__> it says this hto
[05:13] <ubuntu__> hw:0,0
[05:13] <Demio> but it isnt in fstab
[05:13] <adam12> <justin - I di the LAMP install, I was wondering how I could this as a test bed for PHP, what steps do Ineed to do to setip or access it on this pc?
[05:13] <CharonX> ubuntu__, is that all or that and default ?
[05:13] <Gevaudan> foo:  actually apt-get -i sun-java5-plugin
[05:13] <ubuntu__> no
[05:14] <shambler> the fact that people still use fluxbox amuses me
[05:14] <brucedes> anyone here use mercury messenger? I try to run it and it just crashes without opening
[05:14] <ubuntu__> hw:0,2
[05:14] <ubuntu__> well
[05:14] <ardchoille> shambler: shows how much you know
[05:14] <ubuntu__> when i select mine it gives me those
[05:14] <ubuntu__> hw:0,2
[05:14] <Demio> o,O
[05:14] <CharonX> shambler, try running gnome on a 500Mhz
[05:14] <ubuntu__> o r
[05:14] <ubuntu__> hw:0,0
[05:14] <Gevaudan> foo: tested and works fine
[05:14] <foo> Gevaudan: ah, that's what I'm missing maybe. /me tries that. thaks
[05:14] <ubuntu__> or default
[05:14] <CharonX> ubuntu__, try both....
[05:14] <ubuntu__> ok
[05:14] <ubuntu__> so i click ok?
[05:14] <shambler> ardchoille, does it?
[05:14] <CharonX> ubuntu__, try one, if that does nothing try the next one
[05:14] <ubuntu__> well
[05:14] <ubuntu__> ok
[05:14] <justin_> Ademan: Simple, you need to usually set up Apache config - to link with your PHP interpreter, and then add your scripts to /htdocs or whatever directory you told Apache to hold your HTML in - and away you go, you need to follow the script instructions after that
[05:14] <shambler> ardchoille, i was using linux before fluxbox existed :P...and im still using the same pc
[05:15] <foo> Gevaudan: thanks
[05:15] <shambler> 7 years later...no need for flux
[05:15] <adam12> Is there a way to do that from here?
[05:15] <ubuntu__> SICK
[05:15] <ubuntu__> wtf
[05:15] <ubuntu__> its palying
[05:15] <ubuntu__> but i cant hear anything
[05:16] <Demio> hello?
[05:16] <justin_> Actually lamp should config PHP by default - so add your PHP scripts to /htdocs, and login to them with 127.0.0.1 to test them out - keep in mind, you may need to create MYSQL databases for some scripts, that will not build them auto - and you need to create users, all that information is availible in detail at the MYSQL website.
[05:16] <CharonX> Check your volume
[05:16] <Demio> my dvdrom is mounted at the same time its unmounted
[05:16] <ubuntu__> did
[05:16] <Ademan> justin_: the default folder is /var/www
[05:16] <Demio> >.<
[05:16] <brucedes> anyways, i'm off to bed. Its quarter past 4 in the morning, hurrah >.<
[05:16] <CharonX> ubuntu__, check system volume, PCM, and make sure speakers are on, turned up and plugged into the right port
[05:16] <justin_> Ademan: Yeah whatever it is
[05:17] <justin_> on sourceforge its htdocs.. so that sticks in my head :))
[05:17] <CharonX> ubuntu__, hardest part should be done, its playing now without the error
[05:17] <Gevaudan> anyone know what files i need to edit to turn off apache server information (i.e. apache, perl, modjk, all those plugins) from being seen by the outside world
[05:17] <justin_> Demio: Try ejecting hdc - see if the tray comes out
[05:17] <Demio> :(
[05:17] <Demio> hm
[05:17] <Demio> ok
[05:17] <hopelessguy_1> g'night everybody. thanks to the ones who tried to help me. i'm depressed - but i'm not giving up! (too depressed to do that) ;)
[05:17] <justin_> Just open a virtual terminal and type - eject
[05:17] <Demio> yea
[05:17] <Demio> the tray comes out
[05:17] <venky> hello i have an intel pro wireless 2100 in my dell 600m I am trying to set up wpa wireless connection I tried this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo but I am not able to associate with my connection here is the pastebin link of the error
[05:17] <venky> http://pastebin.com/782460
[05:17] <ardchoille> Gevaudan: Do you want apache to only serve to your computer, not the internet?
[05:17] <justin_> Demio: Is there any disc in the drive?
[05:18] <ubuntu__> wtf
[05:18] <ubuntu__> what am i supposed to do
[05:18] <Demio> right now yes
[05:18] <Balei> please, could anyone help me with an offtopic-problem?   its about controling an english text
[05:18] <CharonX> ubuntu__, check system volume, PCM, and make sure speakers are on, turned up and plugged into the right port
[05:18] <Demio> should I remove it?
[05:18] <ubuntu__> i kno my speakers are working cuz i can hear sounds from msn
[05:18] <justin_> Demio: Ok because you cannot mount.. drives that have no discs ;D
[05:18] <Gevaudan> ardchoille: no it serves my lan and the internet...i just want to get rid of the version infromation for security reasons
[05:18] <ubuntu__> pcm?
[05:18] <Demio> lol
[05:18] <justin_> Demio: What kind of disc is it?
[05:18] <Demio> its a dvd
[05:18] <CharonX> ubuntu__, its in the main volume control
[05:18] <Demio> for Battlefield 2
[05:18] <CharonX> ubuntu__, double click the speaker icon on the menu
[05:18] <justin_> Demio: Obviously, what I mean is it blank - is it a real movie disc - is it a burned dvd?
[05:18] <CharonX> ubuntu__, it should have master and pcm controls
[05:19] <Demio> i guess 4- other
[05:19] <venky> has anyone here installed WPA wireless networking?
[05:19] <Demio> its a game dvd, a real dvd I bought hehe
[05:19] <Demio> for bf2
[05:19] <CharonX> ubuntu__, make sure pcm is up and turned on
[05:19] <Demio> i was going to install it with cedega
[05:19] <ubuntu__> wats pcm
[05:19] <Demio> but when i place the dvd in th drive
[05:19] <Demio> a window pops up
[05:19] <Demio> with nautilus trying to view the dvd
[05:19] <Demio> but it says
[05:19] <Demio> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "dvdrecorder".
[05:20] <ubuntu__> oo
[05:20] <ubuntu__> its up
[05:20] <Demio> The folder contents could not be displayed.
[05:20] <venky> i am having issues i went through the how to but it seems it is not working maybe iam doing something wrong
[05:20] <ubuntu__> locked or no?
[05:20] <babyubuntu> Kile >>> [ViewPDF]  Could not find the libkghostviewpart library.
[05:20] <Warbo> Grr I can't get deskbar to build. It uses an autogen.sh file which is complaining about "m4 macros"
[05:20] <justin_> Demio:
[05:20] <babyubuntu> how do i solve this problem?
[05:20] <ubuntu__> lock channels for master together
[05:20] <Demio> ?
[05:20] <justin_> Demio: Sudo and unmount it - and then remount it
[05:20] <justin_> sudo -H -s
[05:20] <venky> anyone has expertise with wpa_supplicant?
[05:20] <Demio> like sudo unmount hdc?
[05:20] <CharonX> ubuntu_, it should not crossed off, but linking does not really matter, its just left and right channell sync
[05:20] <Warbo> Would I be killing defenseless kittens if I took Edgy's package and rebuilt it with no dependencies?
[05:21] <justin_> Demio: No sudo -H -s first
[05:21] <justin_> And then after you give your password and #, get to business
[05:21] <ubuntu__> LOCKEd or no
[05:21] <babyubuntu> any one here familiar with "kile"?
[05:21] <ubuntu__> together or no
[05:21] <CharonX> ubuntu__, does not matter
[05:21] <ubuntu__> together or seperate
[05:21] <Demio> what does that do?
[05:21] <ubuntu__> ok
[05:21] <justin_> When your in root, go to your disk properties - and check the permissions on the drive - grant them to your user account.
[05:21] <venky> any one has working wpa connection?
[05:21] <CharonX> ubuntu__, just make sure the speaker underneath it is not x-ed off
[05:21] <justin_> Demio: It gives you superuser power
[05:21] <ubuntu__> what
[05:21] <Demio> ok
[05:22] <Demio> now what
[05:22] <ubuntu__> its not
[05:22] <justin_> Demio: Your normal account is a limited account
[05:22] <ubuntu__> FFS
[05:22] <PenguinOfDoom> Is Edgy usable yet?
[05:22] <ubuntu__> I cant hear shit from msn
[05:22] <justin_> Demio: Do you have #?
[05:22] <ubuntu__> wow
[05:22] <justin_> PenguinOfDoom: No
[05:22] <Demio> yea i do
[05:22] <Demio> its purdy :P
[05:22] <PenguinOfDoom> justin_: durr :(
[05:22] <justin_> Demio: Ok, unmount it and remount it
[05:22] <linuxcrazy> hey,what does a person need to do to install wireless internet on Ubuntu
[05:22] <CharonX> ubuntu__, you can hear stuff from msn ....... you are using gaim ? Or is that when you are in windows ?
[05:22] <babyubuntu> any one here familiar with "kile", a latex frontend
[05:22] <Gevaudan> ardchoille: fyi, it is ServerTokens ProductOnly then ServerSignature Off
[05:22] <ubuntu__> GAIM
[05:22] <Demio> sudo -H -s
[05:22] <Demio> err
[05:22] <Demio> oops
[05:22] <venky> can anyone help me with setting up wpa connection i referred to the how to but iam not able to make it work
[05:22] <ubuntu__> i cant go on windows
[05:22] <justin_> Demio: Then go into the media folder or whereever you mounted the drive - and "ls" the contents
[05:22] <Madpilot> PenguinOfDoom, they're only on 2nd test release - but #ubuntu+1 is better for Edgy questions
[05:22] <ubuntu__> thats my whole problem this week
[05:23] <Demio> mmeant to paste this
[05:23] <ubuntu__> thats why im on a live cd
[05:23] <ardchoille> Gevaudan: In apache conf?
[05:23] <ubuntu__> ..
[05:23] <Demio> bash: unmount: command not found
[05:23] <Warbo> linuxcrazy: Either click "Configure" in the Network Settings tool, or dig through loads of guides
[05:23] <justin_> Demio: Yeah, sudo -H -s
[05:23] <Demio> how do i unmount
[05:23] <linuxcrazy> ok ty
[05:23] <ubuntu__> what should my input audio be
[05:23] <Gevaudan> archoille: yes i just appended to the bottom of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[05:23] <Warbo> Demio: umount, no n
[05:23] <Warbo> (well, 1 n)
[05:23] <ubuntu__> input plugin
[05:23] <CharonX> ubuntu__, is xmms have its volume cranked down ?
[05:23] <ardchoille> Gevaudan: Thank you for that info :)
[05:23] <ubuntu__> no ffs
[05:23] <Demio> ?
[05:23] <ubuntu__> everything isup
[05:23] <venky> warbro can u help me with wpa?
[05:23] <ubuntu__> what should input plugin be
[05:24] <Warbo> venky: I don't use WPA, I let everyone use my connection (well, when it's on)
[05:24] <justin_> Demio: Mount -a
[05:24] <justin_> mount -a
[05:24] <justin_> even
[05:24] <CharonX> ubuntu__, settle down, and you dont select a input plugin manualy  just leave it
[05:24] <justin_> Now go to wherever your DVD is - and "ls"
[05:24] <Consty> dig dug
[05:24] <Consty> @find dig dug
[05:24] <ubuntu__> ok
[05:24] <venky> hmm ya iam in a screwed up situation i guess
[05:24] <justin_> Remember you must be root, you must see #
[05:24] <Demio> err
[05:24] <justin_> If it is still $, you are not root
[05:24] <Demio> i used "umount"
[05:24] <Demio> is that ok too?
[05:24] <linuxcrazy> crap guys! this channel is too flooded!
[05:24] <Gevaudan> this is a naive question but where is the iptables file located in debian based distros like ubuntu? on redhat distros it's /etc/sysconfig/iptables...synaptec is showing it is installed
[05:24] <justin_> Demio: Whatever
[05:24] <StoneNote> justin_, sudo is your friend
[05:25] <Warbo> Demio: That is OK, unmount isn't (since it doesn't exist)
[05:25] <venky> is anyone here using wpa_supplicant?
[05:25] <justin_> now mount -a
[05:25] <iLikeSpoons> so, I got a bunch of ebooks in chm format. Is there a reader for them?
[05:25] <iLikeSpoons> that is, is there one in the repositories, or should I google around?
[05:25] <ubuntu__> ok so what now
[05:25] <justin_> StoneNote: Yeah, I still liked .. root :D
[05:25] <Demio> root@DEMENTOR:/media# mount -a /media/dvdrecorder
[05:25] <Demio> mount: can't find /media/dvdrecorder in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:25] <CharonX> ubuntu__, do you have the esound output ?
[05:25] <StoneNote> :)
[05:25] <Knelix> dig dug, Consty?
[05:25] <justin_> Demio: no..
[05:25] <justin_> Demio: mount -a
[05:25] <Warbo> Right, I am going to rebuild Edgy's deskbar since Dapper's is unusable with my dark theme
[05:25] <justin_> No "deverecorder"
[05:25] <ubuntu__> how should i kno what i have
[05:25] <Taxman2> any idea why I would get a cs: warning no high memory space available upon trying to load a wireless card in Xubuntu but not Ubuntu?
[05:26] <adam12> what would be the command to get webmin and install it on my ubuntu box?
[05:26] <ubuntu__> i dont get it with ppl
[05:26] <ubuntu__> they ask shit that i dont even kno what it is
[05:26] <Demio> ok
[05:26] <ubuntu__> at least tell me where to go to check
[05:26] <Demio> now what
[05:26] <CharonX> ubuntu__, xmms options, output
[05:26] <ubuntu__> ..
[05:26] <justin_> Demio: Go to query ;D
[05:26] <CharonX> ubuntu__, I dont get some people you try to help them and they just swear and get impatent
[05:27] <ubuntu__> ok
[05:27] <justin_> No you simply change to whatever dir - your dvd is mounted on
[05:27] <Demio> ?
[05:27] <CharonX> ubuntu__, go back to the output plugin in xmms
[05:27] <ubuntu__> u ment for me to go to prefences
[05:27] <ubuntu__> ok im there
[05:27] <ubuntu__> what now
[05:27] <linuxcrazy> this is incredible. 773 people in the room
[05:27] <CharonX> output plugins
[05:27] <justin_> mount /dev/hdc /dev/media/dvd
[05:27] <StoneNote> CharonX, well for the amount of money they are paying you they .. oh wait ... they aren't paying you. nevermind. :D
[05:28] <ubuntu__> change to esound?
[05:28] <CharonX> Yes
[05:28] <Demio> my drive doesnt appear
[05:28] <ubuntu__> THX
[05:28] <ubuntu__> ALOT
[05:28] <ubuntu__> eh
[05:28] <ubuntu__> :)
[05:28] <ubuntu__> :D!!!
[05:28] <linuxcrazy> ok
[05:28] <ubuntu__> finally wow
[05:28] <ubuntu__> ffs thx man
[05:28] <justin_> or Demio mount /dev/hdc /mnt/dvd - whatever
[05:28] <ubuntu__> works
[05:28] <ubuntu__> (H)
[05:28] <CharonX> ubuntu__, welcome, next time.... patients goes a long way on irc
[05:28] <Taxman> ok, now please stop typing two letters on each line and scroll flooding
[05:29] <linuxcrazy> so, when you install Ubuntu, will it automatically set up the wireless connection?
[05:29] <cute_bettong> Warbo, can you paste me that ati link again? a freind would like to have it and i have lost it.
[05:29] <justin_> Demio type this verbatim as "#"
[05:29] <mykej> anybody got a sec for a xdmcp question?
[05:29] <Luakagon> :D-l=
[05:29] <Luakagon> 8P>-<
[05:29] <StoneNote> !ask
[05:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:29] <ladydoor> !anybody
[05:29] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:29] <Taxman> linuxcrazy: it should yes, if the card is supported by default
[05:29] <justin_> mount /dev/hdc (dvd letter whatever hd it is) /mnt/dvd
[05:29] <linuxcrazy> ok
[05:29] <mykej> Just rebuilt a machine going from mandriva to ubuntu. Got xdmcp working, and I can log in from cygwin/x on win, at least once. When I log out, the chooser screen doesn't reappear. Requires restarting X on the ubuntu box for it to show up.
[05:29] <Demio> root@DEMENTOR:/media/dvdrecorder# mount /dev/hdc
[05:29] <Demio> mount: can't find /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:29] <ubuntu__> err
[05:29] <justin_> mykej: It can take up to ten minutes for it to reappear sometimes...
[05:29] <ubuntu__> whats the code for bg music
[05:30] <CharonX> ubuntu__, not a clue
[05:30] <justin_> When I logout - it takes around 6 minutes for GDM to re-appear
[05:30] <ubuntu__> lol
[05:30] <ubuntu__> u dont kno html
[05:30] <justin_> Demio:
[05:30] <justin_> Demio: as # - type "ls" without the quotes
[05:30] <CharonX> ubuntu__, I do, but I dont have everything memorized......
[05:30] <justin_> Demio: What does that give you
[05:30] <ubuntu__> lol
[05:31] <Demio> a whole lot of nothing :P
[05:31] <ladydoor> ubuntu__: i'm sorry...please try to spell words all the way out
[05:31] <Demio> nothing happens
[05:31] <ubuntu__> ?
[05:31] <justin_> Demio: are you sure your DVD is on hdc?
[05:31] <mykej> wow justin , that's a loooong time. Never had it take more than 30 secs before this install.
[05:31] <ubuntu__> do you kno the code to play music in the background
[05:31] <justin_> root -mount /dev/hdc /mnt/dvd should work period
[05:31] <Demio> ok you managed to confuse me tiny brains
[05:31] <CharonX> ubuntu__, lol , u , kno ....... are not words is what was meant. And for html stuff like that www.google.com
[05:31] <justin_> Haha, its not that confusing..
[05:32] <ubuntu__> wow
[05:32] <ubuntu__> u cant stand some msn language :P
[05:32] <venky> any soul using wpa_supplicant here?
[05:32] <justin_> Demio: You simply need to know what your DVD is .. if it is not hdc, well you are mounting the wrong thing
[05:32] <Taxman> bah, don't want to keep repeating, but I can't figure out this cs: unable to map card memory issue
[05:32] <Demio> YAY
[05:32] <Demio> that last one worked
[05:32] <Demio> :D
[05:32] <justin_> Demio: phew, finally
[05:32] <justin_> lol
[05:32] <Demio> hmm wait, maybe its because im logged in as root
[05:32] <justin_> Demio: Yeah
[05:32] <Demio> how do i go back to regular user
[05:33] <justin_> Demio: No!
[05:33] <justin_> Demio: Listen closely ;)
[05:33] <Demio> ok...
[05:33] <CharonX> ubuntu__, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette
[05:33] <ubuntu__> <embed src="yourmusicfile.mid" autostart="true" loop="true"
[05:33] <ubuntu__> width="2" height="0">
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[05:33] <ubuntu__> thats how
[05:33] <justin_> Demio: Leave the term open as "#" root
[05:33] <justin_> Demio: Go back to X - and go to "system" and click "Disks"
[05:33] <ladydoor> CharonX: thanks a lot
[05:34] <ladydoor> CharonX: i shouldn't be so snarky
[05:34] <ladydoor> CharonX: (but i can't help it)
[05:34] <justin_> Demio: You should now see a listing of your disks, click on your DVD-ROM - and tell me what you see in properties
[05:34] <ubuntu__> wow
[05:34] <ubuntu__> charon thx alot lol
[05:34] <CharonX> ladydoor, No worries ....
[05:34] <ubuntu__> k cya
[05:34] <CharonX> ubuntu__, bye
[05:34] <Demio> well
[05:35] <ubuntu__> ill be back :P
[05:35] <Demio> my dvd rom reads as a CD-ROm
[05:35] <Demio> it says
[05:35] <ubuntu__> just like everyday
[05:35] <CharonX> wow
[05:35] <Taxman> yeah
[05:35] <Demio> type CD-ROM
[05:35] <CharonX> just wow
[05:35] <Demio> Device /dev/hdc
[05:35] <justin_> Demio: Ok, now leave the proggie - go back to term
[05:35] <Demio> and more stuff
[05:35] <justin_> type "exit"
[05:36] <Taxman> CharonX: sorry to bug but can you help me out?
[05:36] <Demio> ok
[05:36] <Demio> now what
[05:36] <justin_> you will be back to your limp user permissions, try to access the drive now
[05:36] <CharonX> Taxman, just ask the question ......
[05:36] <Taxman> CharonX: I have, four or five times
[05:36] <justin_> if you cannot, you will need to be root to access it -- until you find a solution, however you need only -gksudo your graphical x apps to access it :D
[05:36] <CharonX> Taxman, I was helping another I must have missed it
[05:36] <Demio> mwhahaha
[05:37] <Demio> it lives!
[05:37] <Taxman> I know, I just didn't want to keep repeating
[05:37] <Demio> yaaay
[05:37] <Demio> ^
[05:37] <justin_> Demio: ;) - now - rinse and repeat, until its burned into your brain - scroll up your terminal, and take mental notes of what you did :P
[05:37] <Taxman> CharonX: I get a cs: unable to map card memory on Xubuntu but not Ubuntu
[05:37] <Demio> ^^
[05:37] <Demio> hmm
[05:37] <Demio> i hope i dont have to repeat it
[05:37] <Demio> its counter-producent
[05:37] <mt_holden_ss> where can i find the grub folder?
[05:37] <Demio> im trying to replace windows here :P
[05:38] <justin_> Demio: It seems so at first, you will learn to appreciate all the little things ;)
[05:39] <justin_> In reality.. all the tinkering gives you much power over your PC that windows can never allow
[05:39] <Demio> yea
[05:39] <cute_bettong> imho linux even ubuntu is 1000000000000 times better than windoze XD
[05:39] <Demio> im loving linux
[05:39] <justin_> Not too mention, its learning - at first its strange, but after you do these things a few times - it becomes as normal as clicking on "My Computer" in windows
[05:39] <Demio> i had it on a server
[05:40] <Demio> but on a server you dont hve to care about dvd rom drives n such
[05:40] <Demio> just good ol iptables, apache and mysql
[05:40] <Demio> im not used to all the stuff i can do
[05:40] <Demio> my linux experienced used to be just ssh access to an http server
[05:40] <justin_> cute_bettong: Yeah except for two areas I would say, Home Recording (Linux is still stuck in 1996 when it comes to that stuff) and Games for the most part
[05:40] <CharonX> Taxman, hmm
[05:41] <justin_> Demio: You get used to it, even windows is a pain - when you have no PC experience whatsoever
[05:41] <cute_bettong> justin_, you know thats my only beef right now with the software world......there being stubbern about porting games to linux...which i beleve is a better gameing platform anyways.
[05:42] <justin_> cute_bettong: It's because they do not want to release their source, I think we need to make it more clear.. we want the games, even if they are in Binary only..
[05:42] <justin_> Really, it's not like the source is availible anywhere else anyways
[05:42] <Demio> yea
[05:42] <Demio> man
[05:42] <Demio> im tempted to format my windows partition
[05:43] <Demio> but im also a gamer
[05:43] <Demio> i need to for some games cedega doesnt support hehe
[05:43] <justin_> Demio: Hah, well Linux has some good games too.. - rubiconX isn't bad
[05:43] <cute_bettong> justin_, yes i agree totally i would play the games even if they where not made oss
[05:43] <Taxman> justin_: it has more to do with having to port to all the different distros.
[05:43] <justin_> But yeah the catalogue is not as vast as windows
[05:44] <cute_bettong> right now my belefe is that if i cannot play it or do it with linux then i do not need it
[05:44] <justin_> Taxman: Meh, pick a few popular ones - people on SUSE are probably not as likely to be big games as - Ubuntu people for instance.
[05:44] <cute_bettong> saves me money on games XD
[05:44] <justin_> Be big "on" games
[05:44] <Taxman> justin_: but that limits your market enough to make the return not as likely
[05:44] <justin_> Taxman: That does not even make sense
[05:44] <Demio> YAYS
[05:45] <Demio> bf2 is installing
[05:45] <Demio> :D
[05:45] <justin_> Taxman: Windows is the only market, if they already make adequate returns there - why not grab a few extra bucks
[05:45] <Demio> i just wish more game companies would start making games for linux
[05:45] <Demio> iD software does it
[05:45] <Taxman> justin_: because there are costs. porting, support, etc
[05:45] <justin_> Demio: Hopefully, your game works for you heh..
[05:45] <Demio> the big software houses have huge budgets
[05:45] <Demio> im sure they could do it if they wanted to
[05:46] <Demio> and if they started using OpenGL instead of DX
[05:46] <justin_> Taxman: Indeed there are - but if you look at the demand for Linux games.. I think it would show profit
[05:46] <justin_> Taxman: LOkiGames for instance, was ahead of their time
[05:46] <Demio> it would also inspire people to switch to linux
[05:46] <Demio> one of the things that's holding back linux is the lack of games
[05:46] <justin_> YUP
[05:46] <justin_> yup
[05:46] <shambler> what?
[05:46] <shambler> who needs more than quake3
[05:46] <Taxman> justin_: the proof is in the failure for linux games to sell enough to cover costs in the past. that's why there aren't more
[05:46] <Demio> lol
[05:47] <justin_> That and home recording :)) - I still have a windows box for that, because.. Linux really does suck when it coems to home studios
[05:47] <Demio> i think that in 4 years time
[05:47] <Demio> linux will be mature enough to be used as a desktop environment for the enduser
[05:47] <gottreu> can dapper drake work with USB scanners?
[05:47] <gottreu> via sane?
[05:47] <CharonX> Demio, not including OSX ?
[05:47] <Taxman> but ok, a question. what file controls what modules are loaded on boot?
[05:47] <justin_> Taxman: Yeah, could have a point - but nonetheless, it was 2001/2 there was a lot less desktop linux users, most were technical and used Linux for programming etc - with very little interest in games
[05:48] <Demio> well, OSX is proprietary
[05:48] <justin_> And comparing the budget of Loki, to Ubisoft or EA Games is absurd
[05:48] <|DrV> is there a way to allow alt-tab while dragging things?
[05:48] <Demio> im talking about free linux
[05:48] <Demio> i hate microsoft and their 250 OS
[05:48] <justin_> Demio: Heck, I find linux is lightyears ahead of windows in terms of productivity
[05:48] <sethk> |DrV, not sure what you mean.  alt-tab is for dragging things
[05:49] <justin_> It takes so long to get things done on windows..
[05:49] <sethk> |DrV, oh, I see what you mean
[05:49] <sethk> |DrV, never mind  :)
[05:49] <|DrV> like if i start dragging a file from nautilus, then hit alt-tab, nothing happens
[05:49] <Demio> if they started charging less for windows there would be less piracy
[05:49] <justin_> I have not been on windows since.. 95a :))
[05:49] <Demio> yea
[05:49] <sethk> |DrV, let me see what kde does
[05:49] <Demio> im going to move my whole development platform to linux
[05:49] <Demio> im a php developer
[05:49] <justin_> Demio: Yeah, 200$ is a lot for a CD...
[05:49] <Demio> as well as a web designer
[05:49] <w30> Would sombody using Firefox point their browser at www.tigerdirect.com and after the page loads, click on the Cameras / Camcorders link on the left side and tell me if their browser crashes too.
[05:49] <Demio> ill just have to get used to my new tools
[05:50] <sethk> |DrV, kde works the same way.  I doubt you can change that.
[05:50] <|DrV> darn
[05:50] <mordof> alright so the only resolution i have is 1024x768, i'm on the intel 950 onboard series, i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it gives me the option of the i810 driver, but there is no i950... how can i get my resolution available to 1280x800?
[05:50] <|DrV> i do that all the time in windows ;)
[05:50] <justin_> Demio: It doesn't take that long - its the fonts mostly, and the new design.. that is what is so diff
[05:50] <Demio> yep so true
[05:50] <justin_> You get used to it - and settle in rather nicely :)
[05:50] <Demio> my biggest problem is the fonts
[05:50] <glick> hi
[05:50] <Gevaudan> Any ideas how to set an environmental variable so that you can execute a respective program without being in that dir?  I tried modifying /etc/environments and appending to the PATH but upon restarting the terminal it did not seem to work...do i need to restart hte computer?
[05:50] <CharonX> w30, Does not crash on me
[05:50] <sethk> |DrV, because alt-tab is processed by the window manager, and the key events are being received by the app at that point, not the window manager
[05:50] <glick> does anyone know of a good calendering and organizer available for ubuntu
[05:50] <printk> Gevaudan: add it to your PATH variable
[05:50] <Demio> especially because i have a LCD display
[05:50] <glick> like for todo lists
[05:50] <justin_> Demio: Yeah, your eyes will adjust :P - they look normal to me now, but before yeah,. Linux fonts looked so.. broken
[05:50] <sethk> glick, the KDE program for that is quite good
[05:50] <Demio> many things still dont use subpixel aa
[05:50] <glick> and things like that
[05:50] <w30> CharonX,  hmmm, ok thanks
[05:51] <sethk> glick, kontact, or some such name
[05:51] <Gevaudan> printk: i thought that was what i was doing by modifying the PATH variable in /etc/environments? no?
[05:51] <Demio> another thing ill still use windows for is MSN messenger
[05:51] <glick> im not a big fan of kde
[05:51] <Demio> i need the webcam functionalities
[05:51] <glick> or kde programs
[05:51] <justin_> Demio: Amsn has webcam :P
[05:51] <Gevaudan> glick: im a vig fan of kde programs just not of kde...too cluttered
[05:51] <Demio> amsn is ugly :(
[05:51] <printk> Gevaudan: then type source /etc/enviornments
[05:51] <justin_> http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[05:51] <Softimage> i love how the new live messenger looks
[05:51] <Demio> im using gaim
[05:51] <justin_> Demio: Blasphemy!
[05:51] <Gevaudan> printk: thanks :)
[05:52] <printk> Gevaudan: to reload that variable... and it should work
[05:52] <Demio> lol
[05:52] <CharonX> I cannot wait for gaim-vv to merge with gaim
[05:52] <sethk> glick, it's a good program.  if you don't want to look at it because of a letter, well ...
[05:52] <Demio> the fonts in aMSN are just... wrong
[05:52] <Demio> gaim looks slicker :P
[05:52] <justin_> Even when I am in windows I use Amsn, MSN is DAMNNN ooogly with its tabs and what not
[05:52] <printk> edgy eft is fun i must say..... (well that and i'm really relaly bored)
[05:52] <justin_> My black ass, cant stand looking at MSN.. it makes me cry :~(
[05:52] <mordof> anyone?
[05:52] <justin_> What were they thinking with "tabs" :S
[05:52] <mitrovarr> I have a wireless adapter, but for some reason, the interface always starts down when it's connected (or on boot.)  Also, none of the graphical connecting tools work (it can be connected with iwconfig, however.)  Does anyone know how to make the interface start up when the device is connected or upon boot, and a good graphical connection tool that will work?
[05:52] <Demio> i still prefer MSN, since my gf and I live far away and we dont see each other often
[05:52] <mordof> justin_, tabs can be hidden
[05:52] <Demio> so we use msn for a lot of stuff
[05:53] <CharonX> what were they thinking adding any of the crap that does not help you send messages
[05:53] <Softimage> i like how if your playing a song in WMP with will change your title in MSN
[05:53] <Gevaudan> printk: actually that still didn't work....i'm coming from redhat where you had to create a file in /etc/profile.d and then export hte path setting
[05:53] <justin_> mordof: Meh
[05:53] <printk> Gevaudan: what shell are you running?
[05:53] <sethk> mitrovarr, possibly the kernel support isn't loaded yet when network startup occurs.  take a look at when the kernel modules are loaded
[05:53] <Demio> hehe
[05:53] <mitrovarr> network-admin just sits and tries to apply forever.  Knetworkadmin and wlassistant fail on connect.  It's possible to connect when done manually only, but since this computer is being prepared for a less-skilled user, that can't be used.
[05:53] <printk> if you type echo $PATH at your command line it doesn't show the updated $PATH?
[05:53] <justin_> Demio: Anyways we must disagree there - MSN in my opinion, is the most ugly IM client I have ever looked at..
[05:53] <anilruby> hello all
[05:53] <Gevaudan> printk: bash or the default ubuntu one
[05:54] <Demio> have you seen Windows Live?
[05:54] <anilruby> what is diff between ubuntu cd and ubuntu dvd?
[05:54] <sethk> mitrovarr, that's silly.  just write a trivial gui program with a single "connect" button
[05:54] <Demio> its much different
[05:54] <justin_> Demio: Yeah, still bad
[05:54] <Demio> hehe
[05:54] <Gevaudan> printk: i think i probally need to restart...when echoing $PATH my changes do not show up
[05:54] <Demio> but its a necessary evil if you want to use all the little things
[05:54] <justin_> I do not know why .. but I guess I am used to the "Linux" look now, so the window fonts appear strange and "broken" :P
[05:54] <fishy> My friend can't untar files. How can I make a .zip archive?
[05:54] <Demio> like the games, folder sharing, webcam and sound calls
[05:54] <fishy> I can't put directories in a zip archive with file-roller
[05:55] <justin_> Demio: I like my IM simple - Chat -> point A -> B ;D
[05:55] <justin_> All the extra fluff.. to me is useless
[05:55] <mitrovarr> sethk:  It can't be fused to one network, this person moves around.  Also, I can't program (I would just write a script and stick it in rc.local if that was all I wanted though.)
[05:55] <Demio> yea, i used to be like that too
[05:55] <Demio> until I got my self a gf that lives 200km away
[05:55] <Demio> now i must cope with MSN
[05:55] <Shadow_pillar> which forum on ubuntu forums would be good to post up a repository I created?
[05:55] <sethk> mitrovarr, you can do that easily enough.  just add the required insmod calls and the script to rc.local
[05:55] <anilruby> what is diff between ubuntu cd and ubuntu dvd?
[05:55] <justin_> That's why my X-MSN client http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/exmsn (shameless plug) has no "bulk" :D
[05:56] <sethk> mitrovarr, short of that, you'll have to add the wireless module loading to the initrd
[05:56] <justin_> Demio: Ohhh..
[05:56] <Demio> yep :P
[05:56] <justin_> Demio: Yeah in that case.. MSN is probably a good choice, lets you interact more
[05:56] <Demio> ;)
[05:56] <Softimage> lol
[05:56] <mitrovarr> sethk:  Well, I suppose I can up the interface that way, but that doesn't fix the fact that network-admin, knetwork, and wlassistant don't work and this person doesn't have the skill to use iwconfig.
[05:56] <anilruby> what is diff between ubuntu cd and ubuntu dvd?
[05:56] <Softimage> logs plz
[05:56] <justin_> Hrmm.. I wonder if I can get MSN working in Ubuntu/Wine..
[05:56] <justin_> :)
[05:56] <ladydoor> !repeat
[05:56] <mitrovarr> sethk:  I added the wireless modules to /etc/modules
[05:56] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:56] <Demio> that would own :D
[05:56] <sethk> mitrovarr, even after you run the iwconfig, the wireless doesn't show on the network admin gui?
[05:56] <mitrovarr> sethk:  I'm assuming that's the right way to do things, but I could be wrong
[05:57] <ladydoor> anilruby: and do you mean the livecd vs. the alternate install cd?
[05:57] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: what would you say is a good forum on ubuntuforums.com to post up something like a special repo
[05:57] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: ?*
[05:57] <justin_> Demio: Tell me about it
[05:57] <mitrovarr> sethk:  No, it shows up fine, it's just that I can't use them to establish the connection.
[05:57] <sethk> mitrovarr, in general it is, but the problem may be that it occurs too late, i.e., after the network startup
[05:57] <justin_> Shadow_pillar: What do you mean a special repo?
[05:57] <Shadow_pillar> anilruby: are you just a troll? LOL
[05:57] <justin_> You want to add something to the repo?
[05:57] <ladydoor> Shadow_pillar: i would suggest private-messaging one of the moderators on the forum with your question
[05:57] <sethk> mitrovarr, I've not seen that.  this is in dapper?
[05:57] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: one I made
[05:57] <mitrovarr> sethk:  Yes, although it's xubuntu
[05:57] <Demio> now if MSN made a Linux client what would kick butt
[05:57] <sethk> mitrovarr, I'd hang out for a couple of weeks and wait for it to get fixed
[05:58] <fishy> My friend can't untar files. How can I make a .zip archive?
[05:58] <Demio> but i guess little billy wouldnt like that
[05:58] <fishy> I can't put directories in a zip archive with file-roller
[05:58] <mitrovarr> sethk:  Network-admin just sits there forever trying to apply (It doesn't work EVER with wireless from what I've seen, it's just bad)
[05:58] <justin_> Shadow_pillar: Get contacts of the devels, create a sourceforge page - and then post your links and program information on "edgy" message board.
[05:58] <printk> so uhrm the only diff from xubuntu, kubuntu and ubuntun is the WM/DE?
[05:58] <mitrovarr> sethk:  My other Ubuntu machine with my other wireless network card doesn't do that, it just hard-freezes.
[05:58] <Warbo> fishy: Select the files/folders to compress, right click>Create archive
[05:58] <sethk> mitrovarr, there are definitely some glitches being worked out with wireless and dapper
[05:58] <justin_> Shadow_pillar: Try to convince them, that Ubuntu needs this program for its very survival :D
[05:58] <fishy> thanks Warbo
[05:58] <ladydoor> printk: that and some of the auxiliary packages that back them up
[05:58] <mitrovarr> sethk:  The annoying thing is that Iwconfig always works perfectly
[05:58] <printk> ladydoor: ah
[05:58] <sethk> mitrovarr, you mean crashes the entire o/s?
[05:58] <mitrovarr> sethk:  Yep, hard crash.  Even the mouse.
[05:58] <justin_> But make sure you have a stable app - cause.. Ubuntu stuff, is pretty stable.
[05:58] <fishy> Warbo: But I'm not in GNOME. Can I do it via terminal?
[05:58] <fishy> Or with an app?
[05:59] <mitrovarr> sethk:  I think it can't be hot activated/deactivated.
[05:59] <ladydoor> fishy: read the zip manual
[05:59] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: nah, these are just so me apps not avail.. yet.
[05:59] <sethk> mitrovarr, that is odd.  it suggests how to fix it, which is by running an strace on the gui and seeing what is wrong with the iwconfig calls it produces, but it requires code changes to fix once you figure it out.
[05:59] <mitrovarr> sethk:  Almost certainly a bug within the USB wireless driver (it's a rt2500)
[05:59] <ladydoor> fishy: man zip
[05:59] <Shadow_pillar> some*
[05:59] <Shadow_pillar> and I dont have the bandwidth to get edgy
[05:59] <sethk> mitrovarr, if it freezes the o/s, it's a serious bug in the driver by definition
[05:59] <Shadow_pillar> :/
[05:59] <Warbo> fishy: Erm, I think there might be a "zip" command. If not then any graphical environment can run "nautilus" (GNOME's file manager)
[05:59] <ladydoor> fishy: (the usage line on the top may be enough for you to get the point)
[05:59] <mitrovarr> sethk:  Oh, I don't care about this one, I only care about the laptop one.  In that case, network-admin just sits there forever trying to connect and failing
[05:59] <Shadow_pillar> the repo is remotely hosted
[05:59] <gubuntu> im not getting much help over in #ubuntu-xgl, does anyone here know anything about it enough to help?
[06:00] <sethk> mitrovarr, if I come across a solution for it, I'll let you know.
[06:00] <justin_> Shadow_pillar: Well when you get them done, you know what to do - it would be great if you had them done --- cause they are building the next Ubuntu, but yeah contact devels, get a sourceforge project page - and get a buzz going for your app.
[06:00] <mitrovarr> sethk:  I think it's because the wireless USB adapter won't accept a 'iwconfig wlan0 channel #'
[06:00] <foo> 0000:02:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]  - I have this card... how do I install the drivers for it? ATI's site says RADEON 8500 Series and higher ... I have a 7000 ... any ideas? (I'm here at ATI: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27)
[06:00] <mitrovarr> sethk:  It does manage to work anyway though.
[06:00] <fishy> Warbo: I figured it out. File-roller has a hidden "Add directory" thing
[06:00] <gubuntu> i followed the instructions supplied by !xgl
[06:00] <justin_> If the people don't ask for it - it will most likely not make an appearance :P
[06:00] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: it isnt my app
[06:00] <Warbo> foo: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[06:00] <justin_> Shadow_pillar: Whose app is it?
[06:00] <sethk> mitrovarr, strange.  I would expect it to get fixed within a few weeks.
[06:00] <gubuntu> and i get this:
[06:00] <gubuntu> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[06:00] <gubuntu> No such file or directory.
[06:00] <gubuntu> Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory
[06:01] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: I just said, they're some programs I use that arent and won't be in the next ubuntu!
[06:01] <mitrovarr> sethk:  I was hoping someone would know a nice friendly wireless tool other than network-admin, the KDE tool (whatever it's called), and wlassistant
[06:01] <foo> Warbo: thanks
[06:01] <mitrovarr> sethk:  I had to compile my own module for this thing, too.  It's a zd1211b
[06:01] <sethk> mitrovarr, I don't, but stick around, maybe you'll hear something.
[06:01] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: and one of them, is a driver for X
[06:01] <justin_> Shadow_pillar: Ahh ok :) - Well contact devels, and use the EDGY forum, create a few topics - see if many people also think the same way
[06:01] <mitrovarr> sethk:  thanks.
[06:01] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: one is a cvs pull of the latest xawtv, the up for it is, it has IVTV support
[06:02] <justin_> Shadow_pillar: Well.. driver wise - I am sure you have more of a chance, Ubuntu is trying to be hardware friendly
[06:02] <ramus> anyone know how to get borders back with xgl/compiz?
[06:02] <mitrovarr> sethk:  Someone should probably write a howto for using iwconfig with ubuntu, because on all the cases I've done network-admin just plain doesn't work
[06:02] <Warbo> ramus: Maybe "compiz --replace"
[06:02] <justin_> ramus: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:02] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: the other is the genius wizardpen driver
[06:02] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: they won't listen to me.
[06:02] <btrento> does anyone know how to release an executalbe from a shell
[06:02] <Warbo> Shadow_pillar: There are wiki pages for wizardpen I think
[06:03] <justin_> Shadow_pillar: That's a shame, but like I said - start some topics on the edgy board --- if you get enough responses.. they may have to include it
[06:03] <Warbo> WHen will Edgy reach it's freeze?
[06:03] <justin_> Keep your customers happy :D - That's what brought down Mandrake
[06:03] <justin_> Too much, "we'll do as we see fit" attitudes.
[06:04] <mitrovarr> Mandrake kind of just went downhill year after year
[06:04] <mitrovarr> I still think the first version I tried (I think it was 8) is actually better than anything else they've done since, even as dated as it got
[06:04] <sethk> mitrovarr, that is definitely a serious problem right now, I agree (about iwconfig)
[06:05] <justin_> mitrovarr: Thats what happens when you ignore the people who actually use your systems
[06:05] <sethk> mitrovarr, but for whatever reason the Mandrake install seemed to get buggier and buggier over time.
[06:05] <ardchoille> Is there any special settings I need to do with the Ubuntu mplayer package? It craches on every DVD I try to watch.
[06:05] <Warbo> oops, 5:00AM. See you
[06:05] <mitrovarr> justin_:  That was it, yeah.  It wasn't the features, it just got gradually more and more broken.  After 10 it barely worked at all.
[06:05] <Shadow_pillar> justin_: does exmsn support video?
[06:06] <bigTimeNewb> ok, as you can tell from my name, i might sound like a dumbass for asking this here, but...
[06:06] <justin_> Shadow_pillar: No sir, however I plan to release a deluxe version for video/webcam's X-msn, is simply a nice looking MSN client made for text chat.
[06:06] <mitrovarr> I wonder when gaim vv will be ready?
[06:07] <AmericanGunner> hi all i have a problem i changed the directory name for my login account from /home/david to / home/david/root and no i cant login As david i am currently logged in as root how do i un do my mistake?
[06:07] <Softimage> can anyone tell me how i find out what my "uid" number is?
[06:07] <iLikeSpoons> ardchoille, have you enebled the restricted packages?
[06:07] <ardchoille> iLikeSpoons: yes
[06:07] <justin_> mitrovarr: Yup, lets hope Ubuntu takes the microsoft road in terms of listening to customers
[06:07] <ardchoille> Softimage: echo $UDI
[06:07] <justin_> M$ is bad at a lot of things, but it does give the clients what they want - they listen
[06:08] <ardchoille> Softimage: Sorry, echo $UID
[06:08] <iLikeSpoons> ardchoille, does totem play the same dvds?
[06:08] <mitrovarr> justin_:  Let's not.  Who wanted WGA or activation?
[06:08] <bigTimeNewb> I really like the uses of the gnome "deskbar" app.  My only complaint is that I cannot figure out how to have actual files show up when i am looking for something.  For example, if I have  a file named reallycoolfilename.txt, and i type in reallyco.....   i want it to show this file, not just  "search for files named..."
[06:08] <ardchoille> iLikeSpoons: No idea, uninstalled totem a long time ago
[06:08] <Softimage> ardchoille: it didnt show anything
[06:08] <AmericanGunner> any one?
[06:08] <kairu0> AmericanGunner, try changing the home directory in /etc/passwd
[06:08] <bigTimeNewb> any ideas?
[06:08] <ladydoor> AmericanGunner: how did you change your home dir to that? do you remember what setting you used?
[06:08] <justin_> mitrovarr: Lol, no not that much :P - I mean simply including what users want :P --- not the other stuff
[06:09] <AmericanGunner> yeah user setting
[06:09] <ardchoille> Softimage: "echo $UID" returns nothing???
[06:09] <ladydoor> AmericanGunner: actually, try what kairu0 said
[06:09] <Softimage> ardchoille: ty
[06:09] <ardchoille> Softimage: You're welcome :)
[06:10] <btrento> I am tryin to install matlab and it is 3 disk, so when it ask for the the second disk it wil not unlock the cdrom so the disk can be inserted.  Has anyone had a similar problem or know of a solution
[06:10] <mitrovarr> justin_:  I don't even know if they do that most of the time.  Everyone's been asking them to improve the performance, security, and stability of XP, and it looks like Vista will only get 1/3 if that.
[06:10] <kennyt> anyone got xara running on ubuntu? it's crashing on any draw event on this box with wxwidgets 2.6.3
[06:10] <bigTimeNewb> btrento, paper clip
[06:10] <babo> Anyone know a good web proxy capturer that's in the repos ?
[06:10] <b0ysc0ut> Asus S1-P111 running ubuntu..is it possible?
[06:10] <justin_> mitrovarr: Well if windows does not break, how will microsoft make money?
[06:10] <justin_> :P
[06:11] <mitrovarr> justin_:  By actually adding worthwhile features and programs?
[06:11] <justin_> mitrovarr: That's for suckers :P
[06:11] <bigTimeNewb> hahahahaha
[06:11] <justin_> If you want to make money, you need to design things that will break
[06:11] <ladydoor> btrento: can you manually eject either by pressing the eject button or by entering "eject"
[06:11] <mitrovarr> justin_:  I dunno, OSX seems to get people to buy upgrades without breaking things.
[06:12] <AmericanGunner> i cant seem to find the directory ect/password
[06:12] <sethk> mitrovarr, mostly by changing essential software so it only works with the latest osx release
[06:12] <justin_> If microsoft made a stable, impenetrable system - their partners would be out of a job, anti-virus companies would for the most part go belly up - customer service would need cuts, on nd on
[06:12] <kairu0> AmericanGunner, its a file called /etc/passwd
[06:12] <minerale> Anyone could suggest a package: I'm looking at high res pictures, and I'd like something to scroll fast through them, the built in image viewers are not fast and shortcut-able enough
[06:12] <btrento> ladydoor: It will not let me manuall eject.
[06:12] <justin_> mitrovarr: Compare apple software profits, and partner profits - to those of Microsoft ;)
[06:12] <kennyt> or any success running xara xtreme on ppc at all?
[06:13] <bll3r> hello everyone
[06:13] <Demio> the biggest advantage M$ has is leverage power
[06:13] <AmericanGunner> where is it located?
[06:13] <justin_> Microsoft does not actually make that much money on selling anything, it makes most money - by getting things to break and then charging to fix them
[06:13] <mitrovarr> justin_:  Easily explained by market share.  Anyways, we're gonna get kicked into the off-topic channel if we keep this up.
[06:13] <Demio> if someone invested the same money M$ is pouring into windows
[06:13] <Demio> in making a linux distro
[06:13] <justin_> mitrovarr: Agred
[06:13] <justin_> agreed even
[06:13] <Demio> we would have a competitor
[06:14] <justin_> Well anyways bedtime
[06:14] <ladydoor> btrento: try "sudo eject." and did "eject" give you an error?
[06:14] <Demio> hehe
[06:14] <justin_> Good luck with that game Demio  :D
[06:14] <Demio> yea ill need it
[06:14] <Demio> still need to figure out how to update punkbuster manually
[06:14] <btrento> ladydoor: Yes it will not let me eject until i close the terminal that i am running the install script in
[06:15] <ladydoor> btrento: hmm. that's odd. sorry, i've got nothing more for you
[06:16] <btrento> ladydoor:  Do you know of anyway to release a executable from a shell?
[06:16] <ladydoor> btrento: control-c
[06:16] <ladydoor> btrento: will forcibly kill it
[06:16] <iLikeSpoons> btrento, can you copy the content of the install cds and then point the script to the locations you copied them to?
[06:18] <btrento> ladydoor:  I do not want to kill it i just want the script to run not in the terminal
[06:18] <foo> Hm, I am running glxgears.. and I thought it spits out the FPS, but it isn't. Any ideas?
[06:18] <ladydoor> btrento: you want it to run in the background, then?
[06:18] <btrento> ladydoor:  exactly
[06:18] <AmericanGunner> where can i find /etc/passwd
[06:18] <mordof> alright i can't get my res to 1280x800.. i've tried editing xorg.conf and adding them, i've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.. the log says something about no mode supported when trying to use 1280x800
[06:19] <mordof> i'm on the intel 945gm onboard
[06:19] <iLikeSpoons> AmericanGunner - it is a file called password in the /etc/ dir
[06:19] <Descentio1> question: is it possible to share the root folder in ubuntu on a windows network?
[06:19] <mordof> if anyone could help me get this resolution working i'd greatly appreciate it
[06:19] <ladydoor> if that's the case, try control-z to move it to the background. and when running a program, appending " &" to the end will make it run in the background.
[06:19] <btrento> ladydoor: thanks for your help
[06:20] <ton> i am looking for one software to run linux under my windows 2000 , i dont want to use VMWAre are there another option ?
[06:20] <balnk_boys> hEEEE
[06:20] <ladydoor> btrento: i hope it actually helped
[06:20] <foo> Hm, I am running glxgears.. and I thought it spits out the FPS, but it isn't. Any ideas? I can't seem to get the --help or man page on it... weird.
[06:21] <|DrV> foo, glxgears -printfps
[06:21] <mordof> anyone know?
[06:21] <ladydoor> mordof: you could try adding a line for it to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (after backing up your current xorg.conf)
[06:22] <mitrovarr> mordof:  How old is that video card?  If it's REALLY REALLY old it might not be able to do that video mode in that color depth.  I had that happen with an old laptop I was working on.
[06:22] <mordof> mitrovarr, it's brand new
[06:22] <Descentio1> is it possible to share the root folder in ubuntu on a windows network?
[06:22] <mitrovarr> mordof:  Oh, well that's not it then.  Heh.
[06:22] <mordof> it's onboard that can run FEAR at low settings
[06:22] <userbn> hi
[06:22] <mordof> can run just about any game on the market on low settings as long as it doesn't use AGP advanced texturing with DX or something
[06:23] <mordof> doesn't support that.. stuff like CoD2 and that
[06:23] <mordof> CS Source
[06:23] <foo> |DrV: Ah, thanks.
[06:23] <mitrovarr> mordof:  Maybe your monitor is set to a low vertical/horizontal setting that can't do that resolution.  That might happen if it couldn't talk to the monitor and took low defaults.
[06:23] <foo> 1859 frames in 5.0 seconds = 371.703 FPS - this is pretty good for my radeon 7000 card, right? Hmm
[06:23] <mordof> mitrovarr, possibly, but i haven't had this laptop for very long, i don't know the settings for it
[06:24] <iLikeSpoons> foo, you have a radeon 7000? Have you been having problems with it?
[06:24] <|DrV> foo, no idea, but i get around 17000 fps
[06:24] <AmericanGunner> i still cant find it :(
[06:24] <maple> how do I use ubuntu to h4x0r n00bz?
[06:24] <iLikeSpoons> like, say, gnome freezing up and crashing the machine totally?
[06:25] <btrento> ladydoor: That did not work either, but when i try to eject or sudo eject is just says device is busy
[06:25] <ton> i am looking for one software to run linux under my windows 2000 , i dont want to use VMWAre are there another option ?
[06:25] <Descentio1> is it possible to share my root folder in ubuntu on a windows network?
[06:25] <ladydoor> btrento: ahhh...hm. is this a native port of matlab?
[06:26] <btrento> yes
[06:26] <mitrovarr> mordof:  You might want to see what it says in the monitor section of xorg.conf
[06:26] <btrento> ladydoor: yes
[06:26] <ladydoor> btrento: yeah...sorry, i don't know
[06:27] <maple1> how do I use ubuntu to h4x0r n00bz?
[06:27] <maple1> serious question btw
[06:27] <ladydoor> !h4x0r n00bz
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about h4x0r n00bz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <Descentio1> !samba
[06:28] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:28] <btrento> ladydoor: I guess i will search matlabs forums for a solution or call them? but thanks for all your help
[06:28] <AmericanGunner> any one?
[06:28] <ladydoor> btrento: sorry it didn't help. good luck.
[06:29] <btrento> ladydoor: there is always octave and it is free
[06:29] <iLikeSpoons> AmericanGunner: do cd /etc and then cat passwd
[06:29] <ladydoor> btrento: sweet. good luck!
[06:29] <Miyumi> Can anyone tell me how to create apt preferences?
[06:29] <AmericanGunner> where do i do this i am new  to linux
[06:30] <iLikeSpoons> in the terminal. Go to applications->accessories->terminal
[06:30] <ladydoor> AmericanGunner: in a terminal
[06:30] <Rookie-> read for one .... have fun for another *grins evily*
[06:30] <Rookie-> open a console and type it
[06:31] <AmericanGunner> ok
[06:31] <AmericanGunner> done now?
[06:31] <iLikeSpoons> what were you trying to do?
[06:31] <Rookie-> you should have 2 files, one named passwd and another passwd-
[06:32] <Rookie-> but if your new to linux ... dont touch these files
[06:32] <AmericanGunner> i messed up my home directory i changed it from /home/david to /home/david/root
[06:32] <AmericanGunner> DOH
[06:32] <Miyumi> Can someone please tell me how to create apt preferences?
[06:33] <Rookie-> just type cd - you comming "home" with that, then type cd .. and your in /home/david
[06:34] <Rookie-> but to mess around with the system when your new to linux .... well - if you want to have fun thats a way to do it ;)
[06:35] <AmericanGunner> didnt seem to work
[06:35] <Rookie-> on what way/how did you change your homedir ?
[06:35] <AmericanGunner> in the user section
[06:36] <Rookie-> dunno gui .... someone else have to help you then
[06:36] <Miyumi> I'm not asking just to ask, I need to create it so I can make sure to get the right wine... I did it two months ago, but I can't remember what I did, and then I had to restart everything with another computer
[06:36] <AmericanGunner> any 1 ?
[06:36] <iLikeSpoons> AmericanGunner: just go back to system->administration->users and groups
[06:36] <iLikeSpoons> select the user you want to edit
[06:37] <AmericanGunner> users and groups isnt available in root
[06:37] <Rookie-> Miyumi - i dont know ... im just another linuxuser ... dont know so much about apt
[06:37] <iLikeSpoons> go to properties->advanced and just change the home dir to whatever.
[06:37] <nownot> my distro wont boot into gui it stops @ text login
[06:38] <Rookie-> nownot - type startx
[06:38] <iLikeSpoons> AmericanGunner: then go to terminal and type: users-admin
[06:38] <Descentio1> how do i edit a file from the terminal?
[06:38] <Miyumi> Rookie, do you think I should give up for now and wait for another time?
[06:38] <nownot> well did and it starts but i was wondering how to start it off the bat
[06:38] <nownot> when it boots
[06:38] <Rookie-> you prolly can fix that proplem in gui
[06:39] <Rookie-> maybe later ... its pretty early here in europe .... around 6-8 am here
[06:39] <AmericanGunner> where is properties advanced?
[06:39] <iLikeSpoons> I need to go to sleep
[06:39] <iLikeSpoons> AmericanGunner: have you started users-admin?
[06:39] <Rookie-> just woke up ;)
[06:39] <nownot> can someone pls help me real quick
[06:39] <iLikeSpoons> heh... I have a probabiliy and statistics oral exam in 7 days
[06:39] <iLikeSpoons> reading up all night... :P
[06:40] <foo> Hm, my screen flickers every once in a while. It's random and I see it on my terminal windows with chats open (lots of text) ... I thought installing the drivers would fix this, but it doesn't seem to. Any ideas?
[06:40] <AmericanGunner> ok i think that got it :)
[06:40] <nownot> it was working and then i try to do xgl but then uninstall and its not going to good
[06:40] <Rookie-> Descentio1 - you can edit in terminal (console) by to choose your favorite editor .... pico or vi or vim or nano ... follow by the file you want to edit
[06:41] <iLikeSpoons> foo, still speaking about radeon 7000?
[06:41] <SiliconViper> Greetings.
[06:41] <AmericanGunner> thank you spoons
[06:41] <foo> iLikeSpoons: Hm, that's the video card I have, yes. I don't know if this error is related to that, though (don't think s0
[06:41] <iLikeSpoons> because ubuntu has serious problems with the radeon 7000 series
[06:41] <foo> iLikeSpoons: Darn.
[06:41] <iLikeSpoons> np AmericanGunner
[06:41] <foo> iLikeSpoons: Why? What should I do? Hmm.
[06:41] <iLikeSpoons> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/16873 <-
[06:42] <Rookie-> ATI is evol
[06:42] <nownot> hey rookie
[06:42] <Rookie-> yea?
[06:42] <nownot> can you lend me a hand in somehting
[06:42] <AmericanGunner> IT WORKED WOOHOO thank you spoons
[06:42] <Rookie-> depence if i know the answer ;)
[06:42] <SiliconViper> Can anyone suggest a safe way of storing data with read/write support on both Ubuntu and FreeBSD? I've been researching this for days, on Google, several FAQs and Wikis, and even in #freebsd. No luck so far, so any attempts to push me in the right direction would be appreciated./
[06:43] <nownot> well it wont boot to gui it just stays in text startx works but i want to go into the gui right off the bad
[06:43] <nownot> *bat
[06:43] <bruenig> SiliconViper, set up a seperate ext3 partition and put your stuff on it
[06:43] <foo> iLikeSpoons: Hm, maybe that explains my little flickers here and there. Any temp fixes or anything?
[06:43] <Rookie-> i belive you have to edit initd and set it to init4
[06:43] <Rookie-> i check
[06:44] <SiliconViper> bruenig, thus far that's the best suggestion I've heard. But I hear FreeBSD doesn't support ext3, and has to mount it in ext2 mode, which (according to some) may cause problems when remounting that as ext3 under Linux?
[06:44] <foo> iLikeSpoons: Hm, my system doesn't freeze (as per this site)
[06:44] <bruenig> SiliconViper, setup a seperate ext2 partition
[06:44] <bruenig> ubuntu should have no problems with that
[06:44] <Rookie-> try /etc/inittab and set it to init4
[06:45] <Paddy_EIRE> hello there i know this is the wrong channel to ask, but i call it home.... where is the best windows xp irc channel that i can /join #right now
[06:45] <SiliconViper> bruenig, how reliable is that, though? I don't really understand journalling, I get the basic idea, and it seems valuable... is that something I'm safe to do without?
[06:45] <Paddy_EIRE> trying to optimize my dual boot comp
[06:45] <nownot> thanks will reboot and see what happens
[06:45] <iLikeSpoons> foo, well, it takes a while
[06:45] <iLikeSpoons> it runs fine for me for months
[06:46] <foo> iLikeSpoons: strange
[06:46] <SiliconViper> Paddy_EIRE, ##windows
[06:46] <iLikeSpoons> then, it starts crashing more and more often
[06:46] <iLikeSpoons> currently, it's in the "crashing badly" phase, where it crashes almost every day
[06:46] <Madpilot> Paddy_EIRE, optimize the machine by removing XP ;)
[06:46] <bruenig> SiliconViper, just pick one that both supports, be it fat32 or whatever and put it on that, as far as worrying abour journaling, I wouldn
 do u mean i type /join ##windows
[06:46] <bruenig> 't
[06:46] <SiliconViper> Madpilot, that's now what he was asking for.
[06:46] <iLikeSpoons> luckily, I'm getting an old geforce mx400 tomorrow, so I hope it will solve most of my problems :D
[06:47] <SiliconViper> Paddy_EIRE, that would be my suggestion. Just /join #windows
[06:47] <SiliconViper> You'll probably get more helpful responses.
[06:47] <iLikeSpoons> foo, also, sometimes, applications just randomly crash in gnome. I'm blaming that on the radeon too
[06:47] <ljbade> anyobdy know why my ubuntu can't mount my win xp ntfs partition?
[06:47] <SiliconViper> ljbade, is it giving you an error?
[06:47] <bruenig> ljbade, what have you tried as far as mounting
[06:47] <foo> iLikeSpoons: I use fluxbox. Everything has been working fine for weeks and possibly months. My current issue is little flickers here and there on certain parts of the screen
 i totally agree with you but it will be a while before i get my family from using it :)
[06:48] <Rookie-> ljbade - shouldnt be any prob to mount it and set read rights ... but thats it
[06:48] <ljbade> right click in the filemanager, then mount
[06:48] <ljbade> cant member what the message is tho, need to write it down
[06:48] <bruenig> ljbade, figure out the name of the partition, then tell me
[06:48] <ljbade> ok
[06:48] <Carrie> hi
[06:48] <SiliconViper> bruenig, so in your opinion (which I wouldn't ask for if I wasn't considering it worthwhile), it should be safe to do without journalling?
[06:48] <ljbade> by name you mean like hda1 etc?
[06:49] <bruenig> SiliconViper, read that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system and make your decision, I think as far as data is concerned not too important but then again I haven't got much in terms of personal files and such
[06:49] <bruenig> ljbade, yes
[06:50] <ljbade> well im sure its hda1, im in windows now so cant check atm, but im sure its hda1 is the first partition on my only hard drive anyway
[06:50] <lostboyz> i was wondering how ubuntu compares to other distros
[06:50] <SiliconViper> bruenig, yeah, that was one of the articles I referenced most when trying to understand journalling.
[06:50] <iLikeSpoons> night all.
[06:51] <bruenig> ljbade, well go into ubuntu so you can do this stuff and see if it works
[06:51] <Rookie-> lostboyz - easy to use and easy to config
[06:51] <ljbade> ok will do once my bloody lucent winmodem works, be back later
[06:51] <SiliconViper> What I'm not sure about is what it protects. If I have files that don't really change (music, for example), will journalling help those files in any way?
[06:51] <lostboyz> yes how does it compare with suse? i am using that now
[06:51] <lostboyz> i tried once to configure ubuntu to run dvds
[06:51] <lostboyz> but it crashed my system and i had to leave it
[06:52] <Rookie-> long time since i used suse .... last was 7.1
[06:52] <Madpilot> lostboyz, I run DVDs on my Ubuntu system fairly regularly, never had any issues...
[06:53] <mordof> i'll never get 1280x800 :(
[06:54] <_Gal-Pal_> hey every 1
[06:54] <mordof> hi
[06:54] <yanxizhen> mordof: me too
[06:54] <mordof> yanxizhen, you are unable to get that to work also?
[06:54] <yanxizhen> mordof: yes
[06:54] <mordof> you'd think they would fix it by now
[06:54] <mordof> -.-
[06:55] <Cam-> hi guys, i have a question thats not directly related to ubuntu. i have a ubuntu server with BIND installed on it sucessfully. i have a domain. now this may or may not be stupid but. how do i point my domain to the server?.... because you need to use a fqdn for the namesevers, but without a configured domain in the first place i cant use ns1.mydomain.com
[06:55] <yanxizhen> ^_^
[06:55] <mordof> i've tried everything i can think of, messing with the xorg.conf, doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, specifying lower refresh rates... nothin works
[06:55] <mordof> highest res i can do is 1024x768
[06:55] <bruenig> Cam-, #ubuntu-server
[06:55] <Chu> Well, this makes me sad. proftpd-mysql can figure out if the user credentials are wrong, but it don't do anything if they are RIGHT. I'm going to assume I wouldn't find support for that in here, right?
[06:56] <nownot> rookie: didnt work
[06:56] <yanxizhen> mordof: do you googling.........
[06:56] <nownot> i had 4 then set it to 5 and still no bboot to gui
[06:56] <mordof> yanxizhen, i don't know what to look for
[06:56] <Cam-> bruenig: #ubuntu-server says take support questions to #ubuntu. its only a development channel
[06:56] <maple1> I'm in ubuntu, now how do I hack the planet?
[06:56] <bruenig> Cam-, oh
[06:56] <jbroome> maple1: sudo hack_the_planet
[06:57] <nownot> so does anyone think they can help me figure out why my sys isnt booting to gui
[06:57] <yanxizhen> like these: ubuntu 1280X800
[06:57] <jbroome> omg hax :P
[06:57] <eXistenZ> nownot, check your X11 log
[06:57] <Rookie-> no? what runlevel do you have in that file now ?
[06:57] <nownot> i reset it to 4
[06:57] <mkquist_> nownot - did you just update?
[06:57] <searchingbearcub> Hi, new to Ubuntu (6.06 LTS).. Have a few problems, but first & foremost, I can't write to a FAT32 partition that I mounted
[06:58] <nownot> i dont htink so but i might have
[06:58] <nownot> i dont see the update thing no more
[06:58] <nownot> lol
[06:58] <mkquist_> nownot - do u have a new install?
[06:58] <nownot> well farley new
[06:58] <mkquist_> nownot - so u prob did
[06:59] <nownot> it worked until i tried to do xgl it didnt work as expected so i try to uninstall and now it wont boot into gui, it did before just before i went trying to install stuff
[06:59] <Softimage> ardchoille: ty
[06:59] <mkquist_> nownot - did u try booting in recovery mod?
[06:59] <mkquist_> nownot - mode*
[06:59] <nownot> not yet
[07:00] <mkquist_> nownot - try that first, but there was a prob w/the updates a few days ago that broke the x server u cant check here. http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[07:01] <nownot> will try thanks
[07:01] <RedRose> !cedega
[07:01] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:01] <mkquist_> nowot - and for ur xgl u might look here.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267&highlight=pci+problems
[07:01] <sethk> mkquist_, he's gone
[07:02] <Rookie-> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html - some minor help for desktops
[07:02] <mkquist_> oops..lol
[07:02] <Cam-> so can anyone help me with configuring my DNS?
[07:02] <mordof> yanxizhen, i figured it out :P
[07:02] <Cam-> actually my domain records? =p
[07:03] <sethk> Cam-, you are setting up a dns serv er?
[07:03] <mkquist_> anyone have any idea why i would lose my network access, its kinda random like itll work after a coupla reboots, then no on restart the next day
[07:03] <yanxizhen> mordof: how do it
[07:03] <Cam-> the dns server is already setup
[07:03] <Cam-> i just cant figure out how to point my domain to it
[07:03] <mkquist_> irritating to say the least
[07:03] <sethk> Cam-, depends whether you use static configuration or dhcp for dns
[07:03] <mordof> yanxizhen, 1 sec i'll get you the link
[07:03] <Rookie-> mkquist_ - check your dhcpclient ...
[07:03] <holycow_> !backports
[07:03] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[07:04] <Cam-> because you need a FQDN for your nameservers. but you cant use your own domain as the nameserver because your domain isnt setup =p
[07:04] <sethk> Cam-, in general, for a statically configured unix host, you add name servers to /etc/resolv.conf
[07:04] <yanxizhen> mordof: Are you google it? yes,give me the link
[07:04] <mordof> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190237
[07:04] <sethk> Cam-, you don't need to get nearly so complex as that
[07:04] <yanxizhen> mordof: :-) ,thx
[07:04] <searchingbearcub> *Waits paitently*
[07:04] <mordof> yw
[07:04] <sethk> Cam-, just add a line to /etc/resolv.conf  like:    nameserver ###.###.###.###
[07:04] <sethk> Cam-, that will make the host send dns requests to the dns server at that ip address
[07:04] <Netslayer> how do i fix this: "shared library not found libwx_gtk-2.4.so.1"
[07:05] <Cam-> nah sethk. im talking about using my linux server as my nameserver =p
[07:05] <mkquist_> rookie - k like look where?
[07:05] <mkquist_> rookie - if u dont mind
[07:05] <sethk> Cam-, I'm perfectly aware of that.  what I said is completely relevant to that
[07:05] <sethk> Cam-, you aren't listening.
[07:05] <CharonX> Has anyone here used the firefly remote in ubuntu ?
[07:05] <bruenig> Netslayer, when are you getting that erro
[07:05] <bruenig> r
[07:05] <sethk> Cam-, there is nothing that says the dns server is not also a dns client, and the dns client configuration must be set up for a machine regardless of whether it is a dns server
[07:05] <yanxizhen> mordof: i'll do it tonight
[07:05] <foo> My screen flickers every now and then on random parts of the screen in ubuntu. i have a radeon 7000 card. Any ideas? I followed this to set my card up: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:05] <Tonren> How do I disable NetworkManager applet?
[07:05] <Rookie-> mkquist_ - i belive ubuntu uses dhclinet3 aas default, would be (but not sure) in /etc/dhcp3
[07:05] <mordof> yanxizhen, only takes a few seconds
[07:06] <kirtis> Cam-: If your domain provider wants a fqdn, then you could try using a dynamic dns service like dyndns.org
[07:06] <mkquist_> rookie - thanx ill look
[07:06] <bruenig> Netslayer, ...
[07:06] <nownot> says that it is already the newest version
[07:06] <bill__> so, is it just me or has the automatix site been down forever...?
[07:06] <yanxizhen> mordof: now i'm not using my benq laptop
[07:06] <morphix> can you get 3d accerleration on a laptops ati IGP 340M ?? i cant seem to find any info about it
[07:07] <Rookie-> ATI is evol, real evol
[07:07] <Cam-> so i really cant get my server to be the primary nameserver for the domain?
[07:07] <sethk> Cam-, of course you can, if you really have a domain
[07:07] <Cam-> ive got to use another dns service?
[07:07] <sethk> Cam-, you need a static IP to be a dns server, if that's what you mean
[07:07] <searchingbearcub> Help needed.. I can't write to a FAT32 partition that I mounted - I edited my /etc/fstab file (after backing it up) following some Ubuntu directions (somewhere neasr the top of the google search results..) I got it mounted successfully - Under "Filesystems" its listed as "Windows", but it errors out with "Error 'Read-only file system' creating new folder" when I try to make a new folder to store some downloaded drive
[07:07] <searchingbearcub> rs
[07:07] <Cam-> i have a static IP and a domain :)
[07:07] <Netslayer> bruenig, i installed a deb file manually cause apt get had the old vers even after update
[07:07] <sethk> Cam-, then you have no need for dynamic dns
[07:07] <Netslayer> bruenig, scorched earth
[07:08] <Cam-> but you need to put a fqdn in as the nameserver
[07:08] <bruenig> Netslayer, you are getting it when you launch a program or are you trying to compile something or what
[07:08] <sethk> Cam-, you just register that IP of your dns server with the domain name provider you are using.
[07:08] <Rookie-> dont know about dnsconfig but your dns - shouldnt that be your localhost ?
[07:08] <Tonren> How do I disable NetworkManager applet?
[07:08] <mordof> omg..
[07:08] <sethk> Cam-, you need two static IPs, though, primary and secondary
[07:08] <bruenig> !info libwxgtk2.4-1
[07:08] <ubotu> libwxgtk2.4-1: wxWindows Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ runtime). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.4.1.1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1454 kB, installed size 4168 kB
[07:08] <mordof> i thought my wireless card didn't work in dapper?
[07:08] <Netslayer> bruenig, "cchris@vaio:~$ scorched3d scorched3d: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk-2.4.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[07:08] <Cam-> secondary im probably going to use another provider for
[07:08] <sethk> Cam-, most of the domain registrars have a web interface and you can just go onto their site and set your ip
[07:08] <bruenig> Netslayer, do sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-1
[07:08] <sethk> Cam-, others you have to call their tech support.  which registrar did you use?
[07:09] <sethk> Cam-, you can register your machine as primary and secondary can be on another network
[07:09] <Cam-> so, as NS1 you can use an IP?
[07:09] <sethk> Cam-, right
[07:09] <Netslayer> bruenig, hah i didn't know the package name thanks
[07:09] <Cam-> i was under the impression you required a FQDN
[07:09] <sethk> Cam-, in fact, you have to, the primary dns for a domain must be an ip
[07:09] <sethk> Cam-, strictly speaking the registrar is providing the fqdn
[07:09] <Cam-> directi
[07:09] <Rookie-> both has to ? both ns1 and ns2 ... ?
[07:09] <Cam-> is my provider
[07:09] <sethk> Cam-, but as I said, you don't really care about those
[07:10] <sethk> Cam-, you just give the registrar the IP of primary and secondary dns, and that's it.
[07:10] <sethk> Cam-, the registrar takes care of making sure the top level requests for your domain go to your server(s)
[07:10] <Shadow_pillar> how do I put in a request for a driver in the next release?
[07:10] <sethk> cam, then you resolve all addresses within the domain
[07:10] <sethk> Cam-, otherwise, what machine would you be putting an fqdn on?
[07:11] <sethk> Cam-, it would just be a circle.
[07:11] <sethk> Cam-, at some point the top level internet DNS servers have to resolve your domain name to your DNS server
[07:11] <Cam-> yeh thats what i was confused about =p
[07:11] <sethk> so directi sets that part up, and you do the rest
[07:11] <Shadow_pillar> anyone?
[07:11] <sethk> Shadow_pillar, driver for which type of hardware?
[07:12] <Shadow_pillar> it's an X driver for a tablet
[07:12] <Shadow_pillar> and I've checked, it isnt in edgy
[07:12] <foo> My screen flickers every now and then on random parts of the screen in ubuntu. i have a radeon 7000 card. Any ideas? I followed this to set my card up: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:12] <sethk> Shadow_pillar, that would be through xorg
[07:12] <Shadow_pillar> ?
[07:12] <sethk> Shadow_pillar, drivers have nothing to do with distributions
[07:12] <Cam-> ill give that a try seth
[07:12] <Cam-> thanks
[07:12] <Cam-> :)
[07:13] <Shadow_pillar> sethk: this is a 3rd party driver
[07:13] <sethk> Shadow_pillar, drivers are developed generally by the kernel developers.  X and mice and such are an exception because you work through the X layer.
[07:13] <sethk> Shadow_pillar, all drivers are third party drivers.
[07:13] <lostboyz> has anyone here compared ubuntu with SUSE?
[07:13] <sethk> Shadow_pillar, what tablet driver would not be third party?
[07:13] <searchingbearcub> Help needed.. I can't write to a FAT32 partition that I mounted - I edited my /etc/fstab file (after backing it up) following some Ubuntu directions (somewhere near the top of the google search results..) I got it mounted successfully - Under "Filesystems" its listed as "Windows", but it errors out with "Error 'Read-only file system' creating new folder" when I try to make a new folder to store some dwnloaded drivers
[07:13] <sethk> lostboyz, sure, probably many
[07:13] <lostboyz> ok
[07:13] <lostboyz> what are your thoughts
[07:13] <Shadow_pillar> sethk:  so, this doesn't answer my question..
[07:14] <sethk> Shadow_pillar, yes it does.  go to the xorg web site.  you'll find it there
[07:14] <bruenig> lostboyz, go to #ubuntu-offtopic, ultimately the answer is going to be depends on preference as all of these things are
[07:14] <Rookie-> lostboyz - i would belive without to know for sure that ubuntu is somewhat easier then suse
[07:14] <Flannel> sethk: you need to make sure to not mount it read only, and make sureyour umask is such that you can write to it
[07:14] <Flannel> searchingbearcub, not sethk
[07:14] <sethk> Flannel, :)
[07:14] <Rookie-> lostboyz - but if ubuntu is better or not ... thats another Q
[07:14] <Cam-> seth: NameServer 150.101.100.217 should be in proper format
[07:14] <Cam-> thats what my domain provider is saying when i try edit name server 1
[07:15] <sethk> searchingbearcub, fat32 doesn't have permissions, so permissions are faked.
[07:15] <sethk> searchingbearcub, look at the uid= and gid= options for vfat in man mount
[07:15] <searchingbearcub> I don;t understand the actual command, as I copied it verbatim from a web page into my fstab file.. One moment and I'll post it here
[07:15] <kevin> good day,every one
[07:15] <sethk> Cam-, is that one of your static IP addresses?
[07:15] <Cam-> yeh
[07:15] <Cam-> thats my static IP
[07:15] <searchingbearcub> /dev/hda1   /windows   vfat  user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[07:15] <mkquist_> rookie - any suggestions as to what im looking for, it works great sometimes, other times, like now, no connection, but my other machine connects fine so i doubt its my network
[07:15] <bruenig> searchingbearcub, never a good idea to do that
[07:16] <Netslayer> i just installed scorched earth and it's all blocked text not in english!! what do i do?
[07:16] <mkquist_> rookie - on other machine of course
[07:16] <searchingbearcub> bruenig.. True, but I'm still learning Linux.. I did back the file up first though, lol
[07:16] <Rookie-> mkquist_ - i had problems with that one and i changed it to dhcpcd instead, had the same problem as you describe
[07:17] <sethk> Cam-, you have just the one IP?
[07:17] <bruenig> right, but you will not learn linux by ignorantly copying commands, at least know what they do and what they mean before you copy them
[07:17] <mkquist_> rookie - and that fixed?
[07:17] <nownot> na i still cant get it to boot into gui???? i dont know what else to do
[07:17] <Cam-> yeh. one IP
[07:17] <Rookie-> yea, np after that
[07:17] <Cam-> keeping the secondary name server the same
[07:17] <mkquist_> nownot - recovery dont work?
[07:17] <nownot> na
[07:17] <sethk> Cam-, can't do that.
[07:17] <mkquist_> nownot - did u check the link on the x problem from the update?
[07:17] <sethk> Cam-, internet regs don't allow both to be the same.  although that's probably not your current problem.
[07:18] <Tonren> How do I disable NetworkManager applet?
[07:18] <Cam-> oh no
[07:18] <Rookie-> i know you need atleast 2 static ip for to run dns's
[07:18] <searchingbearcub> I have a small amount of knowledge (I'm an old school DOS user..) and I understand what the command does in broad strokes (mounts a partition upon startup) just not the commands specific parameter format and usage
[07:18] <sethk> Cam-, but I don't show that addresses as a valid address on the net
[07:18] <Cam-> as in keeping the secondary the same as it is at the moment. im going to change it to another mates server later
[07:18] <Cam-> and setup my records on his aswell
[07:18] <sethk> Cam-, try connecting to one of the sites that shows you your public IP, such as whatsmyip.com
[07:18] <bruenig> searchingbearcub, but yeah that says that the device it is mounting is /dev/hda1, it is being mounted in /windows, which I don't know why that is where they are choosing to mount it, makes more sense to have to it mount in /dev/windows or /dev/whatever at least to me, vfat is filesystem, not sure on the rest, all I have is two partitions / and /home so I know little about the ins and out of fstab
[07:18] <Cam-> that is my ip?
[07:19] <sanfaix> can any body help me to extend my root partition
[07:19] <nownot> anyone have any more assistance for me
[07:19] <sethk> Cam-, I mention about secondary because the registrar's program might reject the entire thing if both are the same
[07:19] <sethk> Cam-, I don't show that as a valid IP on the internet
[07:19] <Cam-> my router shows that as my ip :/
[07:19] <bruenig> sanfaix, you will have to do that in the live cd
[07:19] <sethk> Cam-, yes, on your side of the connection, but probably address translation is occuring
[07:20] <Cam-> no, thats on my WAN interface
[07:20] <searchingbearcub> Ok.. So if I delete that line from fstab, can you give me the correct line to enter so that I can write to the partition?
[07:20] <mkquist_> nownot - so that didnt work?
[07:20] <sanfaix> bruenig, can`t we do that after ubutnu is installed on the system?
[07:20] <nownot> no sir
[07:20] <sethk> Cam-, that doesn't matter unless your wan interface is directly connected to the internet
[07:20] <Cam-> it is :)
[07:20] <Cam-> its an ADSL2 connection
[07:20] <Cam-> to my isp
[07:21] <mkquist_> nownot - might try here... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267&highlight=pci+problems
[07:21] <sethk> Cam-, adsl2 is simply a wire line spec.
[07:21] <mkquist_> nownot - just a thought g/l
[07:21] <sethk> Cam-, that's your address inside your isp, but probably not out on the 'net
[07:21] <bruenig> sanfaix, yeah, but you can't mess with partitions when they are mounted, you can't unmount the /root partition while using it. So, you will have to use the live cd to resize it while it is not mounted as the live cd doesn't use the hard drive
[07:21] <sethk> Cam-, it must be NATed to something else.  Or, at least, it very well may be.
[07:21] <Cam-> "Your IP Address is 150.101.100.217"
[07:21] <Cam-> thats what a website says
[07:21] <sethk> Cam-, ok.  I can't ping it.
[07:22] <Cam-> thats because im dropping ICMP
[07:22] <Cam-> lol
[07:22] <sethk> Cam-, oh, wait, sorry
[07:22] <searchingbearcub> True, but if I put the correct entry into fstab, won't it kick in when I reboot?
[07:22] <Cam-> or am i
[07:22] <Cam-> actually
[07:22] <sethk> Cam-, I misread something, you are correct.
[07:22] <Cam-> *checks*
[07:22] <sethk> Cam-, I can ping it, although that would be on the ISP side of the DSL connection which you may or may not control
[07:22] <sanfaix> bruenig, so we can do that with out losing the data in my root partition?
[07:22] <mordof> can ubuntu be booted without /home?
[07:22] <sethk> Cam-, ok, so it's a public address.  what was the message when you tried to point DNS at it?
[07:23] <bruenig> searchingbearcub, give all of the pertinent data, device, mount point, filesystem and others, somebody should be able to give you the line. I am not sure on the obscure options part what all of those letters and numbers mean
[07:23] <sethk> Cam-, sorry about the wrong turn there  :)
[07:23] <Cam-> its not in the right format
[07:23] <Cam-> you need a FQDN
[07:23] <kirtis> searchingbearcub: you can probably just put in umask=0000 and it should work
[07:24] <sethk> Cam-, I've done this hundreds of times.  what do you expect a FQDN to look like?
[07:24] <Cam-> well my domain is moobox.org
[07:24] <Cam-> so ns1.moobox.org
[07:24] <Cam-> ns2.moobox.org
[07:24] <sethk> Cam-, oh, that's your NAME, not your address
[07:24] <Cam-> but to do that i would need moobox.org to be registered correctly in the first place!
[07:25] <Cam-> i dont understand how other domains do that
[07:25] <bruenig> sanfaix, yeah, you should be able to resize it with the live cd. Restart and boot from the harddrive and be fine
[07:25] <sethk> I own, for example, cql.com.  I just checked, and I've set my DNS for ns1.cql.com and nd2.cql.com to the IP addresses (which happen to be 216.217.47.170 and I forget secondary at the moment)
[07:25] <sethk> Cam-, as I said, it's the registrar that does that part
[07:25] <Tonren> For god's sakes, doesn't anyone know how to get rid of the ridiculous NetworkManager applet?  It never works anyway!
[07:25] <Tonren> I'm tired of having it in my systray.
[07:25] <sethk> Cam-, that's why you need the registrar in the first place (well, also to make sure the name is not used by anyone else)
[07:25] <kirtis> Cam-: Are you sure you're looking at the right place in the web interface?  They tend to suck, and you might be trying to delegate control of a domain instead of adding primary nameservers.
[07:26] <sethk> Tonren, it's in a config file in $HOME/.gnome2
[07:26] <bruenig> Tonren, right click on it, remove?
[07:26] <sethk> Tonren, I don't recall the exact file name, but use grep -r to find it.
[07:26] <sethk> Tonren, might be .gnome-2,    do   ls -A $HOME | grep gnome
[07:26] <Cam-> im under Modify Name Server
[07:26] <sethk> kirtis, good thought
[07:26] <Cam-> its giving me options to change up to 10 name servers
[07:26] <Tonren> Thanks sethk
[07:26] <sethk> Cam-, that sounds like where you should be
[07:27] <Cam-> OH
[07:27] <etzerd> hello all
[07:27] <etzerd> ?
[07:27] <Cam-> this looks promising
[07:27] <Cam-> "Manage Child Name Server",
[07:27] <sethk> Cam-, ok, whatever it is  :)
[07:27] <Cam-> Add new child name server, "hostname" "ip"
[07:27] <sethk> Tonren, I wouldn't switch back just because of that issue  :)
[07:27] <etzerd> can anyone tel me how to decrease the Icons size on the desktop, because they are too big
[07:28] <etzerd> I do not want to use the strech Icons
[07:28] <sanfaix> how to embed ubutnu in my usb?
[07:28] <Tonren> Then again,x fce started to bug me after a while, too
[07:28] <Tonren> sanfaix, there are a milion how-tos on it , just google
[07:28] <sethk> Cam-, I'm not sure what they mean there, but every registrar has a slightly different interface (and as kirtis said, they are competing to build the worst  :)  )
[07:28] <sethk> Tonren, I like KDE
[07:28] <Cam-> yeh that works
[07:28] <sethk> Tonren, and I also like fluxbox.
[07:28] <Cam-> haha
[07:28] <sethk> Tonren, they all have good and bad points
[07:28] <Cam-> ok
[07:28] <holycow_> Tonren, just out of curiosity, on what points is gnome nockin ya?
[07:28] <Tonren> Every time I install KDE, it clobbers GNOME, completely
[07:28] <etzerd> I know there is a file if I recall when I used fedora that call "FILE MANGER" is this file is available in ubuntu?
[07:29] <sethk> Tonren, that makes no sense.  I run both on six different boxes here.
[07:29] <Cam-> but yeh, i added a "child name server" for ns1.moobox.org and then i could set the primary name server to ns1.moobox.org
[07:29] <Cam-> without it complaining
[07:29] <Cam-> :)
[07:29] <holycow_> Tonren, ah, what does that haveto do with gnome?
[07:29] <grigora> hi, when dist-upgrading to dapper I get the following error:  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/ofx2qif', which is also in package libofx0c102
[07:29] <grigora> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe), Any ideas?
[07:29] <holycow_> and secondly it should not clobber anything, that makes no sense
[07:29] <etzerd> because from there I can decrease the Icons from 100% to 75 or 50% as I wish.
[07:29] <sethk> etzerd, there are several apps that you can use for file management.  nautilus is I think popular for gnome  (I use kde, so I use s different app)
[07:29] <sethk> Tonren, how do you mean clobber?
[07:29] <Tonren> sethk: I've tried it four times, and every time I had to either uninstall it from tty1 or completely reinstall
[07:30] <sethk> holycow, he may mean that he installs kdm and hides his gdm configuration
[07:30] <bruenig> nautilus is default for gnome
[07:30] <Tonren> holycow: What does what have to do with GNOME?  KDE's destruction has nothing to do with why GNOME has been bugging me
[07:30] <searchingbearcub> Ok.. I'm confused.. I've written down how to revert all my changes, so if I do that, what is the best procedure to follow to mount my FAT32 windows partition so that I can write files to it?
[07:30] <sethk> Tonren, don't reinstall it, not once, twice, three times, or four times.
[07:30] <grigora> anyone?
[07:30] <holycow_> heh, that makes no sense
[07:30] <bruenig> searchingbearcub, add it to your fstab
[07:31] <sethk> grigora, I haven't seen that one.
[07:31] <etzerd> sethk: nautilus is located where in Gnome?
[07:31] <holycow_> its a shame when dudes get frustrated by their own ignorance ... i guess learning takes time
[07:31] <searchingbearcub> I tried it, and un-mounted and remounted it as root.. Still same symptoms
[07:31] <etzerd> Or maybe I have to add it.
[07:31] <sethk> grigora, you tried running the upgrade again?  Assuming you can get to the point of retrying.
[07:31] <searchingbearcub> Well, as sudo, not root
[07:31] <bruenig> searchingbearcub, first off, when it says it is mounting in /windows, have you even created that directory?
[07:31] <sethk> etzerd, I don't have the path, sorry, I run kde.  someone tell him where nautilus is in the gnome menus?
[07:31] <searchingbearcub> Yep
[07:32] <searchingbearcub> I can see the folder in nautilus fine
[07:32] <cool_nick> i am a linux newbie, how can i delete the terminal history, can anyone help me out. . .
[07:32] <searchingbearcub> All my files are there, it just rejects attempts to change or add files
[07:32] <sethk> searchingbearcub, in a terminal, run the command   mount    (no arguments),  check whether it is mounted rw or ro
[07:32] <kirtis> cool_nick: rm ~/.bash_history
[07:32] <nownot> ok i think it has to do w/ my drivers i notices then when it boots it no longer shows my nividia splash screen
[07:32] <sethk> searchingbearcub, that command will list all mounts
[07:32] <bruenig> cool_nick, why would you want to do that is my first thought but it is in ~/.bash_history
[07:33] <grigora> sethk: yes, i also did apt-get -f install, but still no go
[07:33] <sethk> cool_nick, why do you want to delete it?
[07:33] <kirtis> to hide the porn he was getting with wget. ;)
[07:33] <searchingbearcub> "/dev/hda1 on /windows type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,umask=0000)"
[07:33] <sethk> grigora, try uninstalling the app (the one it says "but is needed by" or "is used by" in the error)
[07:33] <glick> thats as good a reason as any
[07:33] <sethk> grigora, paste that line again, I forgot the exact error.
[07:33] <Cam-> cheers seth
[07:33] <sethk> searchingbearcub, ok, you have it to be writable by root
[07:34] <grigora> sethk: it's trying to install ubuntu-base, but I just checked a working system and it's not there
[07:34] <kirtis> searchingbearcub: have you tried just taking out the fmask and dmask parts?  It's that extra one on the fmask that's screwing you up
[07:34] <glick> hey besides kontact can anyone recommend some good organizer programs?
[07:34] <searchingbearcub> Ok, one moment while I make that change..
[07:34] <grigora> sethk:  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/ofx2qif', which is also in package libofx0c102
[07:34] <grigora> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[07:35] <grigora> sethk: there ya go
[07:35] <sethk> grigora, try doing the automatic repair of the package data.  do you know how to do that?
[07:35] <grigora> sethk: not really
[07:35] <sethk> grigora, I'm thinking that if you force an uninstall of libofx0c102, it will stop saying that you are trying to overwrite something that you need.
[07:35] <sethk> grigora, synaptic has it on the menus.
[07:36] <sethk> grigora, it can't hurt, so it's a good thing to try.
[07:36] <grigora> sethk: thanks, let me give it a shot
[07:36] <sethk> grigora, k
[07:37] <esc> hikenboot, i'm looking for libz in ubuntu
[07:37] <sethk> grigora, it's worth a shot, although I wouldn't give you any odds on it working.
[07:37] <esc> and can't find it
[07:37] <grigora> sethk: can't do, show the followiThe following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:37] <grigora>   libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu15) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is ng error:
[07:37] <babo> Has anyone successfully installed paros or webscarab ?
[07:37] <sethk> esc, try installing package zlib1g
[07:38] <searchingbearcub> Still getting same error.. Output of mount for relevant partition is now "/dev/hda1 on /windows type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=0000)"
[07:38] <sethk> esc, and/or lib64z1
[07:38] <sethk> esc, the former, for 32 bit
[07:38] <esc> ok
[07:38] <esc> i am on 32 bit
[07:38] <sethk> searchingbearcub, did you set the uid= and gid= options in the mount command (or in /etc/fstab) ?
[07:39] <cool_nick> kirtis: which are the log files that i should keep a watch on? i just shifted from windows. . .
[07:39] <esc> um, i get a couple of packages
[07:39] <lmosher> I just added a new ext3 partition. I've added it to fstab. normally when I mount -a I see other hdd partitions on my desktop, but not for this one. How do i set that up?
[07:39] <kirtis> cool_nick: What are you watching for?  Most of the interesting things end up in /var/log/syslog
[07:39] <sethk> esc, probably you want zlib1g-dev
[07:39] <searchingbearcub> Not sure.. The line in fstab now reads as "/dev/hda1   /windows   vfat  user,umask=0000   0   0"
[07:39] <drgonzo> hello all I added deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main multiverse restricted universe , then did apt-get update and tried to install the edgy package of libdirectfb, but syanptic doesnt see the package
[07:39] <esc> zlib1        zlib1-dev    zlib1g-dev   zlib1g-udeb
[07:39] <drgonzo> any ideas?
[07:39] <esc> thx sethk
[07:39] <sethk> searchingbearcub, no, your options are user,umask=0000   add uid=####,gid=####          uid and gid for the user who is going to write
[07:40] <bruenig> drgonzo, open a terminal and do sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search libdirectfb
[07:40] <OmegaNine> Sorry but you guys have to read this http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[07:40] <brendonjt> kia ora all
[07:40] <searchingbearcub> How do I find those numbers?
[07:40] <brendonjt> when i try and run google earth i get this error
[07:40] <cool_nick> kirtis: ok! can you suggest me some good books to start with and get on with linux. . .
[07:40] <sethk> OmegaNine, not bad
[07:40] <brendonjt> [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for .............
[07:40] <Flannel> searchingbearcub: they're opposite of permissions.  a umask of 0000 means it has permissions of 777
[07:40] <drgonzo> bruenig: only the dapper version is showing up
[07:41] <bruenig> drgonzo, you may need to comment out that dapper repo
[07:41] <drgonzo> ok
[07:41] <searchingbearcub> I have yet to quite grasp unix style permissions. My mind is still in DOS mode.. Goold old system, hidden, read only, and archive, lol
[07:41] <bruenig> hidden always made me laugh
[07:41] <searchingbearcub> lol, me too
[07:42] <kirtis> cool_nick: None that would be appropriate for beginners.  Unless you want to know about unix network programming. ;)
[07:42] <sethk> searchingbearcub, what is confusing you here is ownership, not permissions
[07:42] <searchingbearcub> dir /a and hidden was useless
[07:42] <drgonzo> bruenig: the dapper deb-src repo is already commented out
[07:42] <ubuntu__> yo
[07:42] <nownot> ok well i think i installed my nvidia drivers but the splash screen isnt showing up like it used to and it wont boot to gui, so i think its the drivers and something to do w/ my boot config can someone help me
[07:42] <ubuntu__> yo
[07:42] <sethk> cool_nick, the best stuff is really on line.  the books are the on line stuff, with errors added by the publishers
[07:42] <bruenig> drgonzo, are you sure the package you want exists in the edgy repo?
[07:42] <ubuntu__> how can i play wma songs? ? ? ? ?
[07:42] <SushiK> Hi guys!
[07:42] <ubuntu__> yo
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> nownot: how did you install them?
[07:42] <nownot> w/ easy ubuntu
[07:42] <ubuntu__> i have xmms i have 2 songs that are wmv and play
[07:42] <drgonzo> bruenig: yes its libdirectfb-0.9.24
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu__: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:43] <ubuntu__> but now ever song i get dosent work
[07:43] <searchingbearcub> Ok.. From what I know in passing, isn't 777 unix speak for full access?
[07:43] <Madpilot> searchingbearcub: more or less
[07:43] <bruenig> .22 won't do?
[07:43] <SushiK> Does anyone here do any war driving with ubuntu on a laptop??
[07:43] <drgonzo> bruenig: im wanting to build the package btw, source package.
[07:43] <Flannel> searchingbearcub: read write execute.  right. (4 2 1)
[07:43] <cool_nick> kirtis: is *rute*, a good one for beginners?
[07:43] <ubuntu__> i cant fyre
[07:43] <brendonjt> help please
[07:43] <Flannel> ubuntu__: why not?
[07:43] <ubuntu__> restricted
[07:43] <sethk> searchingbearcub, it is bad practice by lazy people speak.  you should always use symbols, not numbers, as in, for example, a+rw  (all read write)
[07:44] <pacaveli> can some1 tell me the mp3 player thats in this screenshot in the lower right corner
[07:44] <kirtis> cool_nick: Never heard of it.
[07:44] <ubuntu__> connection was refused
[07:44] <pacaveli> http://koti.mbnet.fi/anttia/screenshot-2006-09-02a.png
[07:44] <foo> My screen flickers every now and then on random parts of the screen in ubuntu. i have a radeon 7000 card. Any ideas? I've tested in CLI mode and it doesn't flicker .. must be an X thing.
[07:44] <nownot> like i was saying everything worked great until i had the bright idea of installing xgl (didnt work) and after that its been no good
[07:44] <Flannel> sethk: we're talking about umask -> perms numbers are fully appropriate
[07:44] <cool_nick> kirtis: its been mentioned in the documentation. . .
[07:44] <bruenig> drgonzo, try commenting out the deb and deb-src of the dapper repo, that may be why you keep getting it in the searches, since the searches aren't specificifying src
[07:45] <sethk> Flannel, I disagree, and the constant questions and problems with it support me.  I might also point out that it isn't working for him.
[07:45] <ubuntu__> well anyone gonna help me or should i leave
[07:45] <bruenig> !patience
[07:45] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:45] <SushiK> ubuntu: probably gotta be more patient than that
[07:45] <searchingbearcub> Ok, good info for me to remember, but how do I find the appropriate uid and gid numbers to add to the line in fstab?
[07:45] <drgonzo> mmm it seems their is only binary versions not deb-src
[07:45] <brendonjt> foo: got a bit of a problem  with my radeon gfx card
[07:45] <sethk> ubuntu__, with that attitude, I recommend leaving
[07:45] <ubuntu__> attitude?
[07:45] <ubuntu__> ive been on this shit for 4 days and no one does shit for me
[07:45] <Flannel> sethk: If you're explaining what to put for a umask, you aren't going to be talking about +rw and stuff.
[07:45] <sethk> ubuntu_, www.dictionary.com
[07:45] <Flannel> !language
[07:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:45] <kirtis> searchingbearcub: grep yourusername /etc/passwd for the username and the same thing with /etc/group for the gid
[07:45] <ubuntu__> why dont u censor it u dum ubotu
[07:45] <whaley> ehehehe
[07:46] <drgonzo> mmm it seems their is only binary versions not deb-src
[07:46] <drgonzo> thanks
[07:46] <sethk> ubuntu__, saying that will certainly get you lots of help quickly.
[07:46] <bruenig> ubuntu__, lol why should someone do stuff for you
[07:46] <SushiK> ubuntu: nobody is getting paid to, so why should they if you aren't gunna be grateful and patient? or the other way around.. patient and grateful
[07:46] <searchingbearcub> unbutu__, it might take some time to get your question answered, be patient
[07:46] <kirtis> searchingbearcub: it'll be the first number ie, kirtis:x:1000 <- that's your uid
[07:46] <Flannel> ubuntu__: you're right, the wiki is down.  Nothing we can do about it.  However, that page does explain it, so you technically have been answered.  No need to claim no one's answered you.
[07:46] <searchingbearcub> Ok, one moment while I work on that...
[07:47] <drgonzo> mmm ouch it want to install a total new edgy system
[07:47] <drgonzo> thanks anyway
[07:47] <Awesome-o2000> which would be a better machine for a low use back office server, and possible game server (ut2004) - a cel 2.93 w 256L2 and 1g ram or an athlonXP2500+ with 512L2 and 512MB ram?
[07:47] <SushiK> celeron?
[07:47] <cool_nick> sethk: thanks!
[07:47] <sethk> Awesome-o2000, unanswerable.  low use back office server, ok,  and _game_ server ?
[07:47] <Ekeichi> hey pple
[07:47] <Awesome-o2000> Yes, Celeron, 256L2 Celeron
[07:47] <snoops> hey.. I was running some items in terminal - like 4 big things which have been working for ages..then I open another terminal and get a message saying terminal has crashed.. and to restart. If I hit restart(for terminal) it'll kill those processes which are still running in the background, right?
[07:47] <sethk> Awesome-o2000, like saying "what's the best thing to be both a man and a woman"
[07:47] <Awesome-o2000> sethk - yeah I'll store files on it, and run a ut2004 server
[07:48] <lmosher> How do I make it so my new hard disk partitions shows up on my desktop?
[07:48] <whaley> snoops: yes, it will kill them
[07:48] <sethk> Awesome-o2000, before you can really answer your question, or even think about it, you have to decide the primary purpose.
[07:48] <whaley> they are child processes of the terminal
[07:48] <sethk> Awesome-o2000, the celeron is great for a file server, not terribly good for a game server
[07:48] <snoops> whaley okay.. is there some way of restarting terminal without killing them?
[07:48] <bruenig> ubuntu_, what was your problem?
[07:48] <kirtis> snoops: Assuming that it's going to kill all your open terminals (which seems unlikely), then yes it would kill the things running inside them.  Unless they're daemons or running under screen.
[07:48] <sethk> snoops, if you don't want that to happen, look at the nohup command
[07:49] <Awesome-o2000> sethk - even w 256L2? I know its not a TON but its better than the 128 they USED to use
[07:49] <sethk> snoops, nohup separates programs from their owning terminals
[07:49] <^Down> Can someone help me install libssh2?
[07:49] <ubuntu__> I have xmms and I have 2 .wmv songs that work on it.. Now I tried to get another song but it wouldn't work on xmms but i got it from the same site.. so what do i have to do so they work??
[07:49] <Rookie-> sudo apt-get install libssh2
[07:49] <snoops> does that have to be run before you start something in terminal sethk?
[07:49] <bruenig> !info libssh2
[07:49] <ubotu> Package libssh2 does not exist in any distro I know
[07:50] <sethk> snoops, no.  that's what you usually do, but it can attach, I believe.  let me double check.
[07:50] <^Down> E: Couldn't find package libssh2
[07:50] <snoops> Ah cool.. if I can attach it to child processes of terminal, then just 'hook' back into them that'd be very nice
[07:50] <ubuntu__> I have xmms and I have 2 .wmv songs that work on it.. Now I tried to get another song but it wouldn't work on xmms but i got it from the same site.. so what do i have to do so they work??
[07:50] <bruenig> ubuntu_, have you installed a package called w32codecs
[07:50] <searchingbearcub> Ok, grepped for my uid and gid, added them to the fstab line.. Still no love, same error.. mount output reads as "/dev/hda1 on /windows type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=0000,uid=1000,gid=1000)" now
[07:50] <bruenig> or used automatix or easy ubuntu or something that does it for you?
[07:51] <Awesome-o2000> sethk - I am conflicted, one has 1.1ghz more CPU and 512MB more ram, should I be asking this in the gameserver channel, and if so, what channel is that?
[07:51] <Rookie-> to use celeron as a gameserver is to use alot of resources .... you need alot of ram .. and the cpu getting real warm so you need a good cooler ...
[07:51] <sethk> snoops, looks like I was wrong about that.  there is a way to do it, though, let me look for it.
[07:51] <ubuntu__> I have xmms and I have 2 .wmv songs that work on it.. Now I tried to get another song but it wouldn't work on xmms but i got it from the same site.. so what do i have to do so they work??
[07:51] <sethk> Awesome-o2000, I'm not a game expert, I'm sure other people here can advise you better about game channels.
[07:51] <Awesome-o2000> Ok I got the ram and the HW taken care of, I just need to know how much diff the 256L2 is going to make versus the 512 on the barton
[07:52] <bruenig> ubuntu_, answer my question regarding yours, else I can't determine what you should do
[07:52] <kirtis> searchingbearcub: ok, maybe it's a problem with nautilus.  Can you touch a file on the filesystem once it's mounted.. ie, touch /windows/test
[07:52] <foo> brendonjt: What kind of problem?
[07:52] <snoops> thank you very much sethk.. frustrating thing.. need to use terminal.. don't dare hit restart because the processes running in them are doing big batch things that've been running for over a day - don't want to start again
[07:52] <ubuntu__> bru
[07:52] <ubuntu__> say my name right lol
[07:52] <brendonjt> foo: i get this error when i try to run googleearth  in ubuntu [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint
[07:52] <ubuntu__> i dont see red so i dont reply
[07:52] <rootest> hi all
[07:52] <sethk> snoops, you can start a new terminal, rather than restart.
[07:53] <bruenig> that is what comes up when I do tab complete, usually that mistake is not made
[07:53] <foo> brendonjt: I'm using the radeon driver.
[07:53] <namename> ok my name is namename much easier
[07:53] <searchingbearcub> Touch? Do you mean, can I see directories on that partition? If so, the answer is yes, I can see all my files, but cannot modify them or add new ones
[07:53] <Rookie-> if the gameserver wouldnt do more then to be a server for ut and nothing else .... then i cant see why not ... but to use the server for more things is not to recommend
[07:53] <brendonjt> foo: have ya any  idea
[07:53] <sethk> snoops, I use kde though, so I don't have the exact way to do it.  but it can certainly be done.
[07:53] <namename> ok now answer me :\
[07:53] <kirtis> searchingbearcub: i meant, from the command line, do touch /windows/test .. that will create an empty file.  If that works then there's something wonky with nautilus.
[07:53] <snoops> sethk umm that terminal crashed error occured when I tried to start a new terminal..
[07:53] <searchingbearcub> Ok,, one moment..
[07:53] <bruenig> namename, have you installed w32codecs or used automatix or easyubuntu to do it for you from your knowledge?
[07:53] <rootest> please help, I tried to build ubuntu iso-image, but required file xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_amd64.deb not found on server :-( What I can do?
[07:54] <Rookie-> install em ?
[07:54] <namename> no
[07:54] <rootest> ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-amd64.iso
[07:54] <sethk> snoops, yes, I see that.  there is a flag, though, that you can use, and you can start a terminal with the flag from one of the consoles (as in control-alt-f1 for first console, etc.)
[07:54] <rootest> Jigdo
[07:54] <namename> im using ubuntu live cd
[07:54] <namename> and i installed xmms
[07:54] <searchingbearcub> Touch errored out with "touch: cannot touch `/windows/test': Read-only file system"
[07:54] <snoops> oh, happen to know what flag or should I just checkout gnome-terminal help?
[07:54] <bruenig> namename, ok, well here it is http://debian-multimedia.org.nyud.net:8080/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[07:54] <ThatGuy> HELP!!   this is stupid but how do make my mounted drives show on my desktop?  ( I mounted my windows NTFS partition to /media/Windows) and i can access it just fine, just want to have it shown as a HD on desktop
[07:55] <bruenig> install that it should help
[07:55] <Rookie-> searchingbearcub - sounds like you trying to do something with a winpartition ... ntfs maybe ?
[07:55] <sethk> snoops, check the help.  another option is to start an xterm, or a konsole
[07:55] <searchingbearcub> FAT32
[07:55] <Rookie-> ohh
[07:55] <bruenig> namename, why have you been using the live cd for four days
[07:55] <namename> long story
[07:55] <Rookie-> mounted with vfat ?
[07:55] <searchingbearcub> Yep
[07:55] <kirtis> searchingbearcub: ok, i'm stumped.  Is there anything in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log that might be helpful?
[07:55] <Rookie-> strange
[07:55] <namename> tried to install ubuntu
[07:55] <namename> messed up
[07:55] <namename> have to repair windows
[07:55] <namename> dont kno admin pass
[07:56] <rootest> Please help, where I can download xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_amd64.deb
[07:56] <namename> =] 
[07:56] <searchingbearcub> One moment, I'll look for those logs..
[07:56] <bruenig> repair? delete it that is the way to go
[07:56] <namename> no
[07:56] <snoops> sethk k, and no idea on switching a 'child process' of terminal from one parent to a different system.. then restart the parent I just swaped, then swap the child process back to the restarted terminal?
[07:56] <namename> im repairing not deleting
[07:56] <Rookie-> rootest - try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_amd64.deb
[07:56] <sethk> namename, try running sudo -i to get to a prompt with admin rights
[07:57] <namename> sudo -i
[07:57] <namename> ?
[07:57] <bruenig> rootest http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10_amd64.deb
[07:57] <rootest> Rookie-, I use Mandriva now
[07:57] <Rookie-> or sudo su -
[07:57] <sethk> snoops, I don't know, sorry.
[07:57] <Rookie-> no idea then
[07:57] <namename> sudo -i
[07:57] <ThatGuy> HELP!!   this is stupid but how do make my mounted drives show on my desktop?  ( I mounted my windows NTFS partition to /media/Windows) and i can access it just fine, just want to have it shown as a HD on desktop
[07:57] <namename> dosent load anything
[07:57] <rootest> ubuntu10.1_amd64 (10.1)
[07:57] <snoops> thanks anyway sethk :)
[07:58] <morphix> !restrictedformats
[07:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:58] <sethk> snoops, sorry I don't have a quick fix.  another strategy might be to start gnome-terminal with zsh instead of bash.
[07:58] <grigora> anyone knows how to resolve the following during a dist-upgrade? thanks - libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu15) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is installed
[07:58] <sethk> snoops, again, though, I'm not sure whether this will impact gnome the way it does kde.
[07:59] <sethk> grigora, sounds like you are making some progress.
[07:59] <lmosher> I'm doing a big file transfer (in console) is there a way to see how long it's going to take?
[07:59] <sethk> grigora, backporting to 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu15 might work
[07:59] <kirtis> ThatGuy: you might check gconf to make sure that the: /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible key is set.  You can use the 'Configuration Editor' that's in system tools to do that.  You may have to enable it using the menu editor first, however.
[07:59] <Rookie-> m2 lmosher - i making a transfer over 150GB ....
[07:59] <rootest> bruenig, ubuntu10.1_amd64(10.1)
[07:59] <sethk> lmosher, do a small transfer over the same connection, and use a calculator
[07:59] <bruenig> rootest, I am looking
[07:59] <warpzone> hey guys, I just switched from Gnome to KDE and got rid of a lot of the defualt Gnome apps. Is there a way to determine which libraries are no longer in use and can be deleted?
[08:00] <rootest> bruenig, thanks
[08:00] <lmosher> sethk, I'm going hard disk to hard disk....
[08:01] <namename> si
[08:01] <namename> so
[08:01] <namename> what do i do
[08:01] <namename> the file is in my system now what
[08:01] <kirtis> warpzone: There isn't really an easy way, no.  If you used aptitude, it can remove things that aren't required anymore.  Otherwise you'd have to do some fancy scripting.
[08:01] <kirtis> warpzone: or just a lot of search and remove.
[08:01] <namename> seth
[08:02] <namename> seth
[08:02] <bruenig> namename, open up a terminal, cd to whatever directory it is in then do sudo dpkg -i w32codecs*
[08:02] <warpzone> kirtis: lol, damn, was hoping for an easy way out. Oh well! Time to start checking boxes.
[08:02] <warpzone> kirtis: thanks for the help though, appreciate it
[08:02] <meff> hiya.. im having a big problem, i want to install ubuntu but the 6.06.1 amd64 installer cd is trying to force me to format my partition i want to install on.. but its a valid ext3 partition and i do not wish to copy back all my data, i moved everyting on that partition to a temp dir.. is there anyway to bypass this thing?
[08:02] <namename>  sudo dpkg -i w32codecs*
[08:02] <namename>  sudo dpkg -i w32codecs*
[08:02] <namename> ?
[08:02] <esc> hey
[08:02] <bruenig> or whatever all of those numbers are
[08:02] <ciphex> what might be a good pci audio card to use under dapper ?
[08:02] <namename> nothing is loading
[08:02] <esc> what package do i download for the svn command line tool
[08:02] <bruenig> I don't remember them so I just used the wildcard
[08:02] <ciphex> cheap preferably
[08:03] <kirtis> esc: subversion
[08:03] <esc> thx
[08:03] <namename> bruen nothing is loading up
[08:03] <warpzone> meff: does the ext3 take up the entire drive? I think you need by default at least three partitions, boot, swap, and whatever else
[08:03] <rootest> bruenig, what's new?
[08:03] <bruenig> rootest, hard time, I even looked on debian and all they have is the newest
[08:04] <namename> bruen
[08:04] <namename> can we do this fast
[08:04] <namename> cuz i wanna sleep 2am =|
[08:04] <meff> warpzone: i have swap and the rest is ext3.. this worked before on a 6.06 disk i lost.. now its forcing me to format or it wont install :/
[08:04] <afflux> moin
[08:04] <bruenig> namename, where is that file saved? give me the absolute path
[08:04] <namename> uhh
[08:04] <brendonjt> who here  runs a radeon  and can help me with fglrx?
[08:04] <namename> shit =[
[08:04] <afflux> brendonjt, i run a radeon 9800 pro
[08:05] <bruenig> namename, why are you even worried about this, it is only the live cd, As soon as you turn it off it will be gone anyways
[08:05] <afflux> brendonjt, where is your problem?
[08:05] <bruenig> is that wmv really that important
[08:05] <namename> o ye
[08:05] <namename> andways
[08:05] <namename> gimme link and where should i save it to
[08:05] <namename> i just pressed open with
[08:05] <namename> and there was a default program for it
[08:05] <brendonjt> afflux: when i run either  google earth or plantirum??  if get the error with fglrx
[08:05] <warpzone> meff: damn, in that case, no clue. If its any consolation my gf's last 6.06 install erased her Windows mft, had to format the whole damn thing :-P
[08:06] <bruenig> well if you opened it with gdebi that was fine, but just follow the prompts and hit install and all that
[08:06] <namename> i
[08:06] <namename> didnt kno what to do
[08:06] <meff> argh
[08:06] <namename> so i closed it
[08:06] <namename> how do i go back to it
[08:06] <afflux> brendonjt: open a console and type "glxinfo | grep direct"
[08:06] <detectiveinspekt> I'm trying to mount a nfs shared folder, all I get is mount to NFS server failed
[08:06] <brendonjt> afflux: the exact error is [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint
[08:07] <bruenig> http://debian-multimedia.org.nyud.net:8080/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb save that to Desktop
[08:07] <brendonjt> afflux: i get the same error as above
[08:07] <afflux> brendonjt: does it say "direct rendering: no" oder ": yes"?
[08:07] <warpzone> brendonjt: I dropped my radeon 9000 for an older geforce2 just to get away from fglrx. It was worth it.
[08:07] <afflux> brendonjt: the same error?? O.o
[08:08] <brendonjt> afflux:  [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint
[08:08] <namename> Save to disk?
[08:08] <afflux> brendonjt: did you install any ati drivers or something like this?
[08:08] <namename> save to disk or open with
[08:08] <meff> does anyone know how to disable this stupid thing? i dont want to format my / partition.. all my data is on a temp dir in it, and i plan on moving it back afterwards.. grr
[08:08] <brendonjt> afflux:  yip did exact what was on the wiki
 http://debian-multimedia.org.nyud.net:8080/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb save that to Desktop
[08:08] <namename> brendonjt: save to disk or open with
[08:09] <afflux> namename: read what he wrote... "save that to desktop"?!
[08:09] <namename> well
[08:09] <namename> is that an option?
[08:09] <namename> save to disk
[08:09] <bruenig> hit save to disk
[08:09] <afflux> omg.... "save to disk and choose desktop"
[08:09] <namename> thats not desktop
[08:09] <namename> and i cant choose
[08:09] <bruenig> it should then prompt you, if it doesn't then it is probably on the desktop or in the home folder
[08:09] <grigora> anyone knows how to resolve the following during a dist-upgrade? thanks - libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu15) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is installed
[08:09] <namename> ok its on downloads
[08:09] <huck> Does anyone know what is, or how to fix a "Segmentation Fault" with gtkpod?
[08:10] <namename> where it shows what i dled
[08:10] <bruenig> namename, ok look on the Desktop, is it there?
[08:10] <namename> no
[08:10] <bruenig> namename, if not go to Places>Home Folder, is it there?
[08:10] <afflux> brendonjt: wait a second
[08:10] <namename> no
[08:10] <kirtis> huck: you'll probably have to file a bug report to get that one fixed.
[08:10] <bruenig> alright well don't worry about it
[08:10] <bruenig> it is impossible
[08:10] <bruenig> do sudo rm -rf /
[08:10] <brendonjt> afflux:  got a radeon 9200se
[08:11] <brendonjt> afflux:  agp
[08:11] <huck> kirtis: bummer.. I'll do that.
[08:11] <SushiK> omg has anyone seen this killer network card thats coming out? With the big K on it?
[08:11] <namename> sudo rm -rf /
[08:11] <SushiK> *drool drool*
[08:11] <namename> do that?
[08:11] <namename> ffs
[08:11] <SushiK> it runs linux on its own little processor and ram, even though its just your network card!
[08:11] <namename> nothing is loading up
[08:11] <namename> U FAG
[08:11] <namename> wtf
[08:11] <namename> u do
[08:11] <namename> yo
[08:11] <namename> YO
[08:11] <namename> wtf did u do
[08:12] <namename> sudo rm -rf /
[08:12] <SushiK> omg if you can't appreciate a network card that runs linux
[08:12] <SushiK> i'm outta here
[08:12] <namename> yoooooooooo
[08:12] <namename> yo
[08:12] <namename> answer me now
[08:12] <namename> ill give u 5 seconds
[08:12] <namename> 5
[08:12] <namename> 4
[08:12] <Flannel> namename: did you run that?
[08:12] <namename> 3
[08:12] <namename> yes
[08:12] <namename> what does it do
[08:12] <Lathiat> namename: I'm not sure if your trolling or not but press ^C on that it removes all files on your drive
[08:12] <Flannel> namename: sigh.  Don't do that.  ctrl-c yeah.
[08:12] <namename> wtf
[08:12] <namename> u just told me to
[08:12] <namename> omfg
[08:12] <Lathiat> brendonjt: please refrain from msaying such things thanks
[08:12] <Adam> just ban that troll.
[08:13] <namename> omg
[08:13] <namename> do i restart pc
[08:13] <Flannel> namename: no, I didn't.  bruenig did.  And, he's not a good person because of it.
[08:13] <namename> wow
[08:13] <namename> hate this shit channels
[08:13] <Adam> Does trouble in Debian spell trouble in Ubuntu?
[08:13] <namename> fucking faggets
[08:13] <brendonjt> lathiat:  umm wot thing  what did i say wrong?
[08:13] <afflux> Lathiat: please look what your autocomplete does.... -.-
[08:13] <Flannel> brendonjt: nothing.  he nick completed from b, I think.
[08:13] <Lathiat> brendonjt: err sorry wrong nick
[08:13] <Lathiat> brendonjt: appologies
[08:13] <StoneNote> Lathiat, I believe it was <bruenig> not brendonjt who told namename to do that. I just checked my scroll on it
[08:14] <Lathiat> th eothe rguy quit and yeh i used nick complete
[08:14] <Lathiat> apparently i cant spell either ;)
[08:14] <brendonjt> lathiat:  thatks ok  had me worried there lol
[08:14] <Lathiat> brendonjt: ;)
[08:14] <Adam> I mean, there are certain signs that the Debian project is experiencing some problems. will that (adversely) affect Ubuntu in the long run?
[08:15] <afflux> brendonjt: is fglrx-control installed? if yes, start fireglcontrol, if not install it ;)
[08:16] <Gary4ga1> hello ppl
[08:16] <brendonjt> afflux:  apt-get install fireglcontrol
[08:16] <Scottrix> hey people
[08:16] <Gary4ga1> ii installed windows xp so my grub is gone!
[08:17] <Gary4ga1> when i try to restore it
[08:17] <afflux> brendonjt: wait a second
[08:17] <Gary4ga1> i get a error
[08:17] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: what ever is that?
[08:17] <mendred> 0wolvesssss.jpg
[08:17] <Scottrix> just wondering if anyone can help me out, i'm trying to access my ubuntu shares from a windows machine, and its asking for a username and password
[08:17] <mendred> 0wolvesssss.jpg
[08:17] <mendred> 0wolvesssss.jpg
[08:17] <mendred> 0wolvesssss.jpg
[08:18] <Lathiat> Scottrix: you need to run 'smbpasswd -a <username>' on the linux machine
[08:18] <afflux> brendonjt: did you try to install the "radeon", "xorg-driver-fglrx" or the "xserver-xorg-driver-ati"?
[08:18] <Gary4ga1> pls wait
[08:18] <Lathiat> Scottrix: this sets up a samba password for your user
[08:18] <Lathiat> Scottrix: unless you want guest access?
[08:18] <Lathiat> Scottrix: did you setup shared manually in smb.conf ?
[08:18] <Gary4ga1> i will post in paste bin as i don't to flood the channel!
[08:18] <brendonjt> lathiat:  umm can'tremember  what one should have i used
[08:18] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: cool :)
[08:18] <Scottrix> Lathiat: oh ok cool, ummm what if i wanted it to be setup just like a linux share, with read only access?
[08:19] <Lathiat> Scottrix: depends, how did you setup your shares?
[08:19] <Lathiat> Scottrix: with the gui tool or manually
[08:19] <Scottrix> Lathiat: nah i've just used the gnome stuff
[08:19] <Lathiat> ok hangon
[08:19] <Scottrix> Lathiat: cool, thanks
[08:19] <Gary4ga1> lathiat:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22410
[08:19] <Gary4ga1> pls check it
[08:20] <kirtis> Gary4ga1: it's probably easier to just do grub-install from the live cd than trying to fiddle with grub manually
[08:21] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: hrm its possible hd0 isnt right
[08:21] <Lathiat> i think you want
[08:21] <Lathiat> root (hd0,0)
[08:21] <Lathiat> setup (hd0)
[08:21] <Lathiat> perhaps
[08:21] <Gary4ga1> so i should try with setup (hd0)??
[08:21] <afflux> brendonjt: oeh... xorg-driver-fglrx would be best i guess...
[08:22] <ljbade> can somebody verify if getautomatix.com is up? i keep getting a blank page
[08:22] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: put both the things i said
[08:22] <Gary4ga1> ok
[08:22] <Flannel> ljbade: congrats.  You don't want it anyway
[08:22] <afflux> brendonjt: try to apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-386
[08:22] <ljbade> Flannel: really?
[08:22] <brendonjt> got them both installed
[08:22] <Flannel> ljbade: really.
[08:22] <afflux> k
[08:22] <Lathiat> Scottrix: hrm mit seems
[08:22] <rpedro> what is the variable to pass all the command line options to a command in a script? say, I want to pass all variables to a command in a script when that script is called
[08:23] <Gary4ga1> grub> root (hd0,0)
[08:23] <Gary4ga1>  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xf
[08:23] <Gary4ga1> grub> setup (hd0)
[08:23] <Gary4ga1> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[08:23] <brendonjt> going to remove the fglrx and reinstall  well try to
[08:23] <Lathiat> Scottrix: the only way to do it is to edit smb.confmanually
[08:23] <Lathiat> which is kinda sucky
[08:23] <afflux> sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe fglrx
[08:23] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: have you mounted your filesystemm?
[08:23] <Gary4ga1> oops!
[08:23] <Scottrix> Lathiat: damn, but okay
[08:23] <ljbade> Flannel: ok then, how can i get my numlock to turn automaticly on startup? i heard automatix can do this
[08:23] <Lathiat> Scottrix: what you want to do is agg "guest ok = yes" to the end of smb.conf
[08:23] <Lathiat> or well in the share section there
[08:24] <Scottrix> ok will do
[08:24] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: well what you could do for me
[08:24] <firippu> is there a text only (non X) installation for ubuntu desktop?
[08:24] <Scottrix> where's smb.conf?
[08:24] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: if you can mount your filesystem (do you know how to do that?)
[08:24] <Lathiat> Scottrix: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:24] <Flannel> firippu: alternate ISO
[08:24] <Scottrix> excellent
[08:24] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: and then check what is iin /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[08:24] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: if your not sure how to do that let me know
[08:24] <Gary4ga1> well i can mount partion
[08:24] <Lathiat> ok do that
[08:25] <Lathiat> then check boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:25] <Lathiat> and look for root() and boot()
[08:25] <Lathiat> should be a line like
[08:25] <Flannel> ljbade: believe the package numlockx (in universe) does it
[08:25] <Lathiat> # groot=(hd0,0)
[08:25] <Lathiat> and
[08:25] <Lathiat> well yeh look for that and tell me what it says
[08:26] <brendonjt> afflux:  ok reinstalled  the xorg driver  do i have to reboot the system now?
[08:26] <brendonjt> afflux:  ok reinstalled  the xorg driver  do i have to reboot the system now?
[08:27] <holycow_> !backports
[08:27] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:27] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: im afraid i must go but once you get that line
[08:27] <afflux> brendonjt: did you do the "sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe fglrx"?
[08:27] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: that says groot=(hd0,0) you want to run root(hd0,0) (or hd1,1 or whatever is inside that)
[08:27] <Flannel> ljbade: actually, theres a bit more: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_turn_on_Num_Lock_on_GNOME_startup  will do it.
[08:27] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: then after than setup(hd0) or whatever the 'hd0' is in the groot line
[08:27] <firippu> ah neat, ok , thats good
[08:27] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: may be hd1, hd2 or whatever
[08:27] <holycow_> backports page doesn't work ... anyon eknow the backports repo for breezy?
[08:28] <esc> has anyone gotten dvd::rip to work in x(ubuntu)
[08:28] <firippu> :)
[08:28] <Lathiat> so if it says groot=(hd3,4) itd be root(hd3,4) setup(hd3)
[08:28] <Flannel> ljbade: but, three simple commands, and youre up.  Without having to risk automatix
[08:28] <brendonjt> afflux:  nothing showed up  it just went to  a new line once i did that
[08:28] <afflux> brendonjt: then its okay :)
[08:28] <Gary4ga1> wait i am tying
[08:28] <afflux> brendonjt: then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:28] <nuxord> hi
[08:28] <brendonjt> afflux:  wot dies that command do?
[08:28] <nuxord> is there any solution to a flash player in firefox for ubuntu?  i really want to view somethings that needs flash :(
[08:29] <afflux> open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in an editor with root-right
[08:29] <afflux> *rights
[08:29] <afflux> you can use vi instead of nano
[08:30] <esc> anyone fancy helping making a ubuntu package for dvd::rip
[08:30] <gbrent> I got major issues.. I reconfigured x and used the defaults. now when I reboot my screen goes into power saving mode but I can hear the log in screen prompt for password
[08:30] <brendonjt> afflux:  ok  got the editor open  now what?
[08:30] <afflux> nano or vi?
[08:30] <brendonjt> gedit
[08:30] <gbrent> anyone have ideas?
[08:30] <afflux> ah
[08:30] <afflux> even better :)
[08:31] <afflux> brendonjt: go to 'Section "Device"'
[08:31] <dongs> okay, so i like just setup a linux machien as a router and im trying to browse the web from my windows xp sp2 workstation and half the websites get connection timeout or just sits there but sometimes loads etc what hte fuck is up with that and how do i fix it? i used iptables to setup 'masquerade', turned on ip forwarding, and xp sp2 workstation gateway is the linux machine. HALP.
[08:31] <brendonjt> afflux:  yip there
[08:31] <afflux> brendonjt: there are severeal 'section "device"'s i guess.
[08:31] <afflux> brendonjt: choose that one that looks like graphic-card ^^
[08:32] <brendonjt> afflux:  yip done that
[08:32] <afflux> brendonjt: change Driver "ati" to Driver "fglrx"
[08:32] <Gary4ga1> well this is my menu .lst list
[08:32] <Gary4ga1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22411
[08:32] <Gary4ga1> check it!
[08:33] <dongs> okay, so i like just setup a linux machien as a router and im trying to browse the web from my windows xp sp2 workstation and half the websites get connection timeout or just sits there but sometimes loads etc what hte fuck is up with that and how do i fix it? i used iptables to setup 'masquerade', turned on ip forwarding, and xp sp2 workstation gateway is the linux machine. HALP.
[08:33] <brendonjt> afflux:  yip done that  there were to sections for that but done it now what
[08:33] <afflux> brendonjt: two sections?? thats sounds weird
[08:33] <Gary4ga1> Lathiat
[08:34] <Gary4ga1> pls some help me to recover the grub
[08:34] <dongs> okay, so i like just setup a linux machien as a router and im trying to browse the web from my windows xp sp2 workstation and half the websites get connection timeout or just sits there but sometimes loads etc what hte fuck is up with that and how do i fix it? i used iptables to setup 'masquerade', turned on ip forwarding, and xp sp2 workstation gateway is the linux machine. HALP.
[08:34] <brendonjt> afflux:  Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0] " and also a section with Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] "
[08:35] <Gary4ga1> i installed windows and grub is gone!
[08:35] <afflux> brendonjt: hm... k...
[08:35] <Gary4ga1> so do ubuntu
[08:35] <Gary4ga1> now what to do??
[08:35] <dongs> Gary4ga1: how is that a problem
[08:35] <afflux> brendonjt: oh shit.... give me a minute
[08:35] <Gary4ga1> well this this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22410
[08:35] <Gary4ga1> i get this error
[08:35] <brendonjt> afflux:  ok did i change something i shouldn't have
[08:35] <gbrent> i reconfigured x from the command line and rebooted. now I can hear the login screen prompt for the password but my monitor is stuck in power saving mode. I can log in fine but I cant see. Any ideas on how to get my monitor off power saving mode w/o being able to see anything?
[08:36] <afflux> brendonjt: what was the "driver" before you changed it? ati?
[08:36] <brendonjt> yip
[08:36] <afflux> brendonjt: change this back
[08:36] <Gary4ga1> well, my nenu.lst file
[08:36] <Gary4ga1>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22411
[08:36] <Gary4ga1> dongs
[08:36] <brendonjt> afflux:  for which one
[08:36] <dongs> yea? you already installed windows, so whats the problem
[08:37] <alxandra> i need help with the xserver error someone please help
[08:37] <Gary4ga1> now windows took my grub
[08:37] <afflux> brendonjt: both please
[08:37] <Gary4ga1> so i want to install grub
[08:37] <printk> Gary4ga1: you'll need to boot with the live cd, mount your linux partitions, do a chroot and run grub-install /dev/<your-hdisk>
[08:37] <brendonjt> afflux:  done,  why was that?
[08:38] <Gary4ga1> pls some help me to recover the grub after installing windows
[08:38] <Madpilot> !grub
[08:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:38] <afflux> brendonjt: i just found that there would be more changes and they would be easier if you just type sudo aticonfig --initial
[08:38] <Madpilot> Gary4ga1, first URL in ubotu's post ^^^
[08:38] <Gary4ga1> ya i did this Madpilot
[08:38] <Gary4ga1> i get this error
[08:39] <Gary4ga1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22410
[08:39] <Linuturk> I've got an intel 2200BG internal wireless. Dapper recoginized it out of the box, but I can't get wep to work on it. I've found the ndiswrapper entry for the same wireless. How would I disable the "broken" driver and load the ndiswrapper one at start?
[08:39] <Gary4ga1> well, my nenu.lst file
[08:39] <Gary4ga1>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22411
[08:39] <Gary4ga1> Madpilot: pls check it
[08:39] <huck> alexandra: what's your question?
[08:39] <alxandra> someone please tell me hot to downgrade my xserver-core using install cd(breezy)
[08:39] <afflux> Gary4ga1: we have seen this url 2000000 times now...
[08:39] <brendonjt> afflux: ok this is what i got: Uninitialised file found, configuring.
[08:39] <Madpilot> Gary4ga1, I don't know much about grub - sorry.
[08:39] <brendonjt> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:39] <brendonjt> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original-1
[08:40] <alxandra> i have this xserver problem
[08:40] <alxandra> but when i try to upgrade with apt-get
[08:40] <alxandra> is says it is up to date
[08:40] <afflux> brendonjt: this is good. now do "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv" and reboot your system after this
[08:40] <alxandra> so i decided to downgrade it
[08:42] <CharonX> I have a strange problem, one of the share libraries for azureus (libswt-pi-gtk-3139) Cannot be linked when starting azureus as a user. But azureus will start fine as root. And I have checked permissions. the library has a+r but the user still cannot launch azureus ? Anyone have an idea ?\
[08:42] <raghu206> problem in installing aiglx
[08:42] <huck> alexandra: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10  <- change the last number to the one you want. I had to do this when the upgrade broke my xserver
[08:42] <brendonjt> afflux: ok this is what i got: Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[08:42] <brendonjt> Warning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[08:42] <brendonjt> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:42] <brendonjt> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-1
[08:42] <Abst> Hey, how can I run a program from terminal but make it so when I close the terminal it doesn't stop. If I do `command &` it still stops when I close the terminal
[08:42] <alxandra> thank you huck
[08:42] <huck> alexandra: the current core is 10.4
[08:42] <afflux> brendonjt: yep, thats right.
[08:43] <alxandra> but i have breezy install cd
[08:43] <alxandra> bot dapper
[08:43] <raghu206> xserver problem after installing aiglx
[08:43] <alxandra> not dapper
[08:43] <huck> alexandra: oh poop... i'm sorry
[08:43] <brendonjt> afflux: cool thanks i'll just reboot and see you back here in a minute
[08:43] <printk> Abst: try typing jobs then type bg <number of job that it is>
[08:43] <printk> Abst: after you type app &
[08:43] <Abst> printk Thanks hold on
[08:44] <linlin> my trackpad stops working after about 45 mniutes of regular use on my ubuntu laptop, it is really really irritating, any ideas how to fix it? right now i have to reboot every time it stops
[08:44] <alxandra> how can i learn the version of the core in breezy
[08:44] <Abst> printk Says its already in background :(
[08:44] <printk> alxandra: version of the kernel?  uname -a or uname -r
[08:44] <huck> alexandra: maybe someone else can chime in then... I'm not sure what the difference would be
[08:44] <alxandra> xserver core
[08:45] <linlin> what about it
[08:45] <alxandra> apt-get install xserver-xorg-core:??????? i cant write the version
[08:46] <afflux> brendonjt: does it work now?
[08:46] <linlin> dont i already have that installed?
[08:46] <macusr> I <3 Ubuntu
[08:46] <brendonjt> afflux: just go to try  google earth now
[08:46] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: ok so you probably want
[08:46] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: root(hd0,7)
[08:46] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: setup(hd0)
[08:47] <macusr> *hugs Ubuntu*
[08:47] <Lathiat> grigora: into the grub shell
[08:47] <dibblego> "mount.davfs will accept certificates of servers only if there is a. matching CA-certificate in the systems certificate store." -- where is the systems certificate store?
[08:47] <Lathiat> Gary4ga1: rather, minto the grub shell
[08:47] <brendonjt> afflux: it is just loading the initalizing file
[08:48] <alxandra> printk. is there any option for apt-get to force downgrade.
[08:48] <afflux> brendonjt: if it doesnt work, you could try to download the libGL.so.1.2 from an older driver version (http://files.covertprestige.info/important/libGL.so.1.2) and "sudo cp libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/"
[08:49] <brendonjt> hmm got some errors when i tried installing it to cos of the driver go to reinsatll and try
[08:49] <afflux> brendonjt: didnt understand that bit
[08:50] <gbrentr> my default screen that x starts on is on desktop 1. I have to switch to desktop 2 every time I boot. any idea on how to fix this?
[08:50] <brendonjt> afflux: the installer went skitzo  cos of some video driver problem  so going to try it again now
[08:50] <cajun> do you guys have a recommendation on a VPN client to use to secure a WiFi connection/
[08:50] <afflux> brendonjt: i see
[08:51] <afflux> brendonjt: i will have breakfast now, hope you get that stuff worked out
[08:52] <brendonjt> afflux: i just got pm'd you
[08:52] <gbrentr> can some one help me out with my X sever real quick?
[08:53] <gbrentr> my default screen that x starts on is on desktop 1. I have to switch to desktop 2 every time I boot.
[08:53] <cajun> any recommendations for  VPN client to use for securing WiFi connections?
[08:53] <gbrentr> I can hear the X login when I boot but my screen is in power saving mode
[08:55] <gbrentr> cajun: try openVPN
[08:55] <cajun> k thx
[08:55] <gbrentr> it has wifi security built in
[08:56] <cajun> is it easy to set up/
[08:56] <gbrentr> never set it up before. I just know that its one of the popular vpn'c on Linux
[08:56] <cajun> oh ok
[08:57] <cajun> well thanks for you help
[08:57] <gbrentr> np
[08:57] <gbrentr> can someone help me out with an x server issue?
[08:57] <gbrentr> my default screen that x starts on is on desktop 1. I have to switch to desktop 2 everytime I boot. any idea on how to fix this?
[08:57] <gbrentr> I cant seem to find any info on this
[08:58] <gbrentr> google's returning everything under the sun
[08:58] <Tomtheman70> Question/Comment: I need some help from someone who is willing to devote some time in PM's to help me get my audio drivers working and my ability to play .wmv's and .avi's and all that.
[08:58] <Nehal> gbrentr: what do you mean by 'desktop 1' , do you mean display 1?
[08:58] <gbrentr> yes display 1
[08:58] <brendonjt> yay  got stellarium  working
[08:59] <gbrentr> have any ideas?
[08:59] <huck> gbrentr: i'm reaching here, but have you checked your xorg.conf file?  under display, mine says:
[08:59] <huck>  SubSection     "Display"
[08:59] <huck>         Depth       1
[09:00] <brendonjt> yay  google earth working
[09:00] <Nehal> gbrent: find this line and try changing it to the correct screen number: Screen "Screen 1"
[09:00] <Tomtheman70> Perhaps if I was to just ask for some help on getting my audio drivers working? Please?
[09:00] <KenSentMe> I'm running vmware-player on Dapper. Can anyone tell me how i can connect my system HD /dev/hda2 to Windows XP in VMware-player?
[09:00] <Nehal> gbrentr: should be near the end of the file
[09:00] <gbrentr> nehal , huck: I reconfigured x and used its defaults thats how I ended up here... let me check
[09:01] <gbrentr> I have many subsections
[09:02] <gbrentr> i did a grep ... one is supposed to be display.. sorry
[09:02] <Nehal> gbrentr: look for: Screen "Screen 1"
[09:02] <Nehal> gbrentr: as i said above.. try that
[09:03] <gbrentr> nope, its not in there
[09:04] <Tomtheman70> Anyways, can someone please help me set up my audio drivers?
[09:04] <Nehal> try pasting your whole file somewhere http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:04] <alxandra> can anyone tell me how to learn the version of the xserver-core in breezy installer cd
[09:05] <huck> Tomtheman70: if nobody can help out here... try this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive
[09:06] <Drako60> hmm pastebin is being slow
[09:06] <gbrentr> Nehal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22413
[09:06] <huck> alxandra: there might be a way to do a recovery from that cd, you might be able to just reinstall the x-server from that????
[09:06] <Drako60> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22414  can anyone tell me how to fix that seg fault please
[09:07] <Byan> how do I remove a package?
[09:08] <gbrentr> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[09:08] <azathoth> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[09:08] <Byan> like.. opposide of apt-get uninstall
[09:08] <azathoth> heh, jinx :)
[09:08] <Byan> remove
[09:08] <Byan> ok
[09:08] <gbrentr> lol
[09:08] <Micksa> hey, I'm lurking here already. neat :)
[09:08] <huck> you guys beat me to it
[09:08] <Nilvio> hello enyone know something mouse recorder ?
[09:08] <gbrentr> it records your mouse
[09:08] <Micksa> okay, so I wanna get xen onto a breezy AND a dapper install
[09:08] <Micksa> is this the place to ask? :)
[09:08] <Micksa> I can just get a pre-compiled kernel I guess, but that means no more kernel updates. that's worrying.
[09:09] <Nilvio> gbrentr i need program where i can record my mouse move and then reaplay it over and over again
[09:09] <Nehal> gbrentr:  BusID                "PCI:3:0:0"   i think this is the line
[09:09] <Drako60> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22415  I also have that seg fault from XMMS the other is from VLC
[09:10] <gbrentr> Nehal: what are you sugesting it be.. PCI:0:0:0
[09:10] <Nehal> gbrentr: try finding out with 'pciconf -v' ?!?!
[09:11] <Nehal> hmm... no
[09:11] <gbrentr> Nehal: I dont have pciconf as a command
[09:11] <Drako60> gbrentr for me AGP is generally PCI:1:0:0 and PCIE is PCI:3:0:0, but look it up with 'lspci -v'
[09:11] <Nehal> gbrentr: yeah that's it... lspci
[09:11] <Nehal> (i was thinking of another OS, my bad)
[09:12] <gbrentr> Nehal: 0000:03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV35 [GeForce FX 5900
[09:12] <gbrentr> there is that 03:00
[09:12] <gbrentr> maybee?
[09:12] <Drako60> yes
[09:13] <Drako60> gbrentr whats your problem?
[09:13] <madhatter_> hello all
[09:13] <Nehal> gbrentr: does it have only one monitor output?
[09:13] <madhatter_> i wonder if anybody here is a kubuntu user ...
[09:13] <Nehal> gbrentr: the vid card
[09:13] <gbrentr> desktop 1 is blank and I have to switch to desktop 2 on boot.
[09:13] <gbrentr> 2 vid outputs
[09:14] <Drako60> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22415  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22414  i need some help figuring out what those two segfaults are and a fix, first is XMMS second is VLC
[09:14] <gbrentr> Nehal: let me tee this to a file and paste bin it
[09:14] <Nehal> gbrentr: yeah i was just about to ask that
[09:14] <Drako60> gbrentr let me look at your pastebin
[09:14] <gbrentr> k
[09:14] <madhatter_> help me pls: my wireless card drivers are installed but i cannot configure a wireless connection
[09:14] <gbrentr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22413 is my xorg.conf
[09:16] <Drako60> gbrentr  you have two monitors hooked up?
[09:16] <gbrentr> nope just one, I couldn't get the second to work
[09:16] <gbrentr> that was a long time ago though
[09:16] <Drako60> gbrentr ok but your having a blank desktop?
[09:17] <Nehal> gbrentr: and the 'lspci -v' output?
[09:17] <esc> has anyone managed to compile transcode?
[09:17] <gbrentr> yes... i can herre the login screen though
[09:17] <gbrentr> Nehal: was having issues woth tee
[09:17] <gbrentr> got it now though
[09:17] <Drako60> gbrentr ahh i see
[09:18] <Tomtheman70> Can someone please help me with this? http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Cirrus+Logic&card=.&chip=CS4280%2C+CS4610%2C+CS4612%2C+CS4614%2C+CS4615%2C+CS4622%2C+CS4624%2C+CS4630&module=cs46xx
[09:18] <gbrentr> nehaL, DRAKO66: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22416 is my lspci -v
[09:18] <Tomtheman70> I need help figuring out how to install my sound drivers.
[09:20] <gbrentr> Nehal, Drako60: When I reconfigured X i did this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:20] <mart> when i installed ubuntu i installed nvidia-glx, but im getting stuttery graphics on some games, is it better to use the drivers from the nvidias site?
[09:21] <gbrentr> mart: yes use the graphics drivers from nvidia
[09:21] <mart> thankyou... i'll give it another go
[09:21] <gbrentr> there is a tutorial on ubuntuguide.org for glx and nvidia
[09:22] <Nehal> gbrentr: try commenting out the BusID line compeltely
[09:22] <mart> yeah... im very new and installing kernel headers was starting to get above me
[09:22] <Nehal> gbrentr: i have a feeling that will work
[09:22] <gbrentr> Nehal: how you have a feeling is beyond me. I program in many languages but when it gets this deep.. wow
[09:23] <gbrentr> Ill try it hehe
[09:23] <Homer> yeah
[09:23] <Nehal> gbrentr: i'll put all my money on it!
[09:24] <Drako60> gbrentr check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139264 if forget which page its one but someone else had the same problem
[09:24] <MystaMax> what is /opt used for???
[09:25] <MystaMax> mine is empty
[09:25] <Drako60> gbrentr if you want to configure for dual screens you have to have the BusID in by the way, i found that out the hard way when i set mine up
[09:25] <Tomtheman70> Whats the command that is similar to 'sudo apt-get cache search'
[09:26] <MystaMax> sudo aptitude search
[09:26] <gbrentr> I have an hp1702 that was nearly imposible. I found the manufactures recomendation and 5 other peoples recomendations did not work but theres were working. I must have been doing something wrong
[09:26] <Nehal> yeah, but i think the BusID has to be set for the 2nd screen, not the first... which may be where the problem lies
[09:27] <Nehal> gbrentr: try it yet? i have to leave in 2 minutes
[09:27] <Tomtheman70> Thank you mystamax
[09:27] <PWill> MystaMax, see http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/s1-filesystem-fhs.html
[09:27] <PWill> or http://www.linux.com/guides/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/opt.shtml
[09:27] <gbrentr> Nehal: ok.. I have other issues with gnome so it may take me a minute to get back in here
[09:28] <gbrentr> you want me to reboot or kill x
[09:28] <MystaMax> no problem Tomtheman70, thanks PWill
[09:28] <gbrentr> Nehal: i think I should reboot thats when i have the issues
[09:28] <Nehal> ok, go ahead
[09:28] <mart> i have a guide on installing nvidia drivers, but it says too
[09:28] <mart> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-amd64-generic
[09:29] <PWill> Nehal, i can help him now if you have to leave
[09:29] <mart> well.... id use my kernel image i guess
[09:29] <Nehal> that's fine
[09:29] <mart> is this going to break my pc
[09:30] <PWill> mart, do you have a 64bit processor
[09:30] <mart> yes
[09:30] <|_SpY_|> i.. somebody know how i install 3d desktop on my ubuntu?
[09:30] <PWill> then you should be fine
[09:30] <mart> good
[09:30] <PWill> where ddi you find this guide?
[09:30] <mart> didnt want to go messing with my kernel
[09:30] <PWill> what site is it on
[09:30] <mart> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300
[09:31] <huck> |_SpY_|: sudo apt-get install 3ddesk
[09:31] <Drako60> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22415  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22414  i need some help figuring out what those two segfaults are and a fix, first is XMMS second is VLC
[09:31] <|_SpY_|> huck: thankz
[09:31] <chesterburnet> hi........can anyone help a poor refuge from windows
[09:31] <huck> sure
[09:32] <ZenShado> I have a question
[09:32] <wachunei> hi guys, i need your help, everytime i watch a video in youtube and i close the firefox tab, it freezes.. and i have to force quit
[09:32] <afflux> chesterburnet: we can try... whats your problem?
[09:32] <gbrent> Nehal: server is already active for display 0
[09:32] <Shadow_pillar> chesterburnet: first you mix the chlorine tablets into the bleach and leave it in your enemy's garage.
[09:32] <ZenShado> If I just download the .iso and I have it on my Windows XP and try to add it as VMware virtual machine
[09:32] <huck> |_SpY_|: actually it's "3ddesktop"
[09:32] <ZenShado> would this work?
[09:32] <Shadow_pillar> chesterburnet: they call that the chestburster
[09:32] <gbrent> I had to switch to desktop 2 in order to get commandline
[09:32] <Shadow_pillar> oh I MEAN WHAT
[09:32] <chesterburnet> lol
[09:33] <huck> |_SpY_|: 3ddesk is the command to run it
[09:33] <Shadow_pillar> oh right.
[09:33] <wachunei> hi guys, i need your help, everytime i watch a video in youtube and i close the firefox tab, it freezes.. and i have to force quit
[09:33] <ZenShado> please don't post twice
[09:33] <chesterburnet> actually i've been using suse and previous to that linspire
[09:33] <ZenShado> it's very annoying
[09:33] <ZenShado> we will get to your message
[09:33] <Nehal> gbrent: sorry :(   ... i give up
[09:33] <morphix> with xfce.. i have done thi before. but cant remember how to.. how can i make it so when i right click on the desktop it shows the xfce menu (like terminal, applications, log out, etc) instead of "create folder, etc" ??
[09:33] <brendonjt> ZenShado:  do you mean dapper iso?
[09:33] <gbrent> hehe... what do you suggest i do other than a reinstall?
[09:33] <ZenShado> wachunei: could just be system resources
[09:33] <ZenShado> brendonjt: Yes!
[09:33] <gbrent> is there any reconfiuguring optins?
[09:34] <chesterburnet> do u folks use adept to install new programs
[09:34] <gbrent> chesterburnet: yes
[09:34] <chesterburnet> and codecs etc?
[09:34] <Nehal> gbrent: i have no clue... your best bet is to try forums or mlists
[09:34] <huck> gbrent: I noticed your using "nv" instead of "nVidia" driver... it's a reach, but it might be worth a shot
[09:34] <chesterburnet> where can i find repositories
[09:34] <Tomtheman70> Can someone help me install ALSAMIXER?
[09:34] <ompaul> chesterburnet, mostly synaptic package manager
[09:34] <morphix> !xfce4
[09:34] <Tomtheman70> I keep getting bad package errors
[09:34] <brendonjt> ZenShado:  burn the image,  and use the live cd  and see how you like it
[09:34] <morphix> !xfce
[09:34] <wachunei> ZenShado: did not happen this time, thanks..
[09:34] <ubotu> xfce4: Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:34] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <Adam> is there any reason why I shouldn't get and use Konsole under vanilla Ubuntu?
[09:34] <ompaul> !codecs > chesterburnet
[09:35] <gbrent> huck: ill try that
[09:35] <Nehal> bye
[09:35] <ZenShado> brendonjt: i cant burn it, no CDs, I've used it b4, i love it
[09:35] <ompaul> chesterburnet, check out the message you got from ubotu
[09:35] <ompaul> !components > chesterburnet
[09:35] <Tomtheman70> !alsamixer
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Tomtheman70> :\
[09:35] <ompaul> chesterburnet, check out the other message you got from ubotu :-) it might help you
[09:35] <ZenShado> !compontes
[09:35] <Adam> any reason to stick to the default Gnome Terminal?  I hear some good things about Konsole...
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compontes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <ZenShado> !componets
[09:36] <chesterburnet> ok.........r the repositories up to date?
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about componets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[09:36] <ZenShado> wierd...
[09:36] <brendonjt> ZenShado:  ah i see  hmmnow thats tricky
[09:36] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[09:36] <huck> !components
[09:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:36] <Toge> hello
[09:36] <Tomtheman70> ompaul,can you help me install alsamixer? I seem to have my drivers working, but I can't find out how to get alsamixer to work
[09:36] <ompaul> ZenShado, it is a matter of spelling :-)
[09:36] <huck> :D
[09:36] <ZenShado> brendonjt: I was able to install Puppy Linux straight to my hard drive
[09:36] <ZenShado> Lol, I'm good at typing
[09:36] <rich102> hi all
[09:37] <ZenShado> but too much chat speek
[09:37] <ZenShado> kills me
[09:37] <ZenShado> lol
[09:37] <Drako60> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22415  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22414  i need some help figuring out what those two segfaults are and a fix, first is XMMS second is VLC
[09:37] <ZenShado> speak*
[09:37] <Toge> I have shared a folder with NFS, how can I join in it from the other computer?
[09:37] <ZenShado> !vmware
[09:37] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[09:37] <brendonjt> ZenShado:  hehe  hmm you will be able to use ubuntu as welll when you get some cd's
[09:38] <ZenShado> brendonjt: Ye, well, I had some from some store, too bad I lost 'em
[09:38] <ZenShado> Please tell me if you find any other way...wait
[09:38] <ZenShado> can i install GRUB on windows?
[09:38] <ZenShado> if so i should be able to do this
[09:38] <ZenShado> somehow...
[09:38] <ZenShado> lol
[09:38] <ZenShado> nvm
[09:38] <ZenShado> that is if i was gonna do it straight to the hd
[09:38] <huck> Toge: check out ubuntuguide.org you should find some answers there
[09:38] <ompaul> Tom39Away, Click on Applications Accessories Terminal, in there type, >> alsamixer  << it should be there already
[09:38] <Abst> 1) Type on one line 2) You can burn Super Grub Disk to install it
[09:39] <ompaul> !enter > ZenShado
[09:39] <Abst> I don't think you can do it -directly- from windows.
[09:39] <ZenShado> !install vmware
[09:39] <Adam> anyone here using Konsole with Ubuntu (as opposed to KUbuntu)?
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install vmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <rich102> getting error when trying to make madwifi install /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory
[09:39] <rich102> Makefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[09:39] <Toge> im going huck
[09:39] <huck> Toge: good luck!!
[09:39] <ZenShado> ompaul, what does !enter > ZenShado do?
[09:39] <ZenShado> :p
[09:39] <brendonjt> ZenShado:  u should get some more, i find ubuntu more powerfull than windows will ever be.
[09:39] <Abst> It makes Ubotu pm you !enter
[09:39] <ompaul> ZenShado, read the message from the bot
[09:39] <ZenShado> !enter
[09:39] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:39] <ZenShado> ok
[09:40] <ZenShado> sorry
[09:40] <Adam> anyone here using Konsole with Ubuntu (as opposed to KUbuntu)?
[09:40] <ZenShado> im addicted to chat speak and cant help it
[09:40] <huck> ZenShado: lol
[09:40] <Abst> ZenShado, your still doing it
[09:40] <Tomtheman70> ompaul, you addressed the wrong person, but when I open it I get a 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device' error
[09:40] <digital> hello everyone
[09:40] <Abst> Hey digital
[09:40] <ZenShado> i'll try my hardest though, and brendonjt: i know, but my family dont like it because it's too sophisticated for their little brains :P
[09:40] <brendonjt> kia ora digital
[09:40] <digital> does anyone know of the easiest way to get a wacom tablet working properly?
[09:40] <huck> hola digital
[09:41] <ompaul> Tomtheman70,  okay in the terminal do this  >> sudo apt-get install alsamixergui  <<
[09:41] <brendonjt> ZenShado:  there  is a 75yr old in my community that uses it native
[09:41] <huck> ok, thanks for the help... good luck to everyone figuring stuff out!
[09:41] <Abst> Bye huck
[09:42] <ZenShado> brendonjt: In what community? That uses what? And what do you mean by "uses it native"?
[09:42] <Ayabara> how do I switch between gdm and kdm?
[09:42] <Tomtheman70> ompaul, been there done that :\ during the install I got a couple of errors: 'X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166'
[09:42] <Abst> !kde
[09:42] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[09:42] <Ayabara> Abst: was that one for me?
[09:42] <digital> !help wacom
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <Abst> Ayabara, yes
[09:42] <Abst> !wacom > digital
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <digital> thanks
[09:42] <|_SpY_|> somebody know how is the key to change desktop?
[09:42] <digital> !wacom
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <ZenShado> !kde > Ayabara
[09:43] <brendonjt> ZenShado:  in my area where i live meaning native no windowsd
[09:43] <ZenShado> just for more help :)
[09:43] <digital> stupid bot
[09:43] <Abst> ZenShado: Read up I said it
[09:43] <digital> nothing useful there
[09:43] <|_SpY_|> somebody know how is the key to change desktop?
[09:43] <Abst> digital Try searching the forums
[09:43] <jonathan_> hi i was wondering if anyone here could help me with wine
[09:43] <ZenShado> Sorry, my bad, I didn't notice :P
[09:43] <ompaul> !sound > Tomtheman70
[09:43] <Abst> |_SpY_|: Do you mean KDE/Gnome?
[09:43] <Abst> !ask
[09:43] <|_SpY_|> gnome
[09:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:43] <ZenShado> By the way, everyone has to go get EasyUbuntu
[09:44] <Ayabara> Abst: not exactly what I needed. I have installed kubuntu-desktop and choose kde/gnome sessions when I login. However I always get the kubuntu login screen, and want the ubuntu one instead
[09:44] <|_SpY_|> i install 3ddekstop..
[09:44] <jonathan_> does anyone know what i need to get ie 6 running in wine?
[09:44] <brendonjt> ZenShado:  easyubuntu???
[09:44] <Abst> Ayabara: Ah I don't know, sorry
[09:44] <ZenShado> Guys, does EasyUbuntu work with Dapper yet? I remember it worked with Badger, but what about Dapper, last time I tried only have of it did...
[09:44] <Ayabara> so my new Q is: how do I change login screen? :-)
[09:44] <ompaul> Tomtheman70, I don't have a lot of knowledge about sound but you got a message from the bot on audio please check out the links for it
[09:44] <|_SpY_|> i want to know how is the key to change desktop
[09:44] <Abst> ZenShado, Worked for me when I tried
[09:44] <Ayabara> Abst: ok, thx anyway
[09:44] <ZenShado> Abst: Okay, cool, I tried it a while ago so...
[09:44] <ompaul> ZenShado, it is alledged it does, ask in #easyubuntu
[09:44] <Abst> |_SpY_|, What doyou mean change desktop? The four virtual desktops?
[09:45] <|_SpY_|> yeah
[09:45] <azathoth> easyubuntu works fine in dapper
[09:45] <ZenShado> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[09:45] <ZenShado> or !easyubuntu
[09:45] <Tomtheman70> ompaul, thanks but the bot is no help, I don't see an option to change my multimedia mixer to asla, but I'll look around a little.
[09:45] <azathoth> it doesn't work in edgy tho :( you have to manually add all the packages from the config file...
[09:45] <Tomtheman70> ompaul, perhaps you've savvy with Video? :D
[09:45] <ZenShado> !easyubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:45] <Abst> |_SpY_|, I dont know if there is a key, don't you have the four icons in the bottom bar?
[09:45] <|_SpY_|> Abst: yeah... change for desktop 2 ... what is the hotkey to change?
[09:45] <ompaul> !codecs > Tomtheman70
[09:46] <Abst> |_SpY_|, If you gimme a sec ill try and find one
[09:46] <Ayabara> anyone using the kdar or sbackup tools?
[09:46] <azathoth> try ctrl+alt+left or right
[09:46] <ZenShado> Tomtheman70: Check out easyubuntu!
[09:46] <ompaul> Tomtheman70, again the collective wisdom of the community has been directed towards you by the bot
[09:46] <ZenShado> Tomtheman70: That was how i alwayd did it!
[09:46] <jonathan_> anyone here know how to help me get internet explorer 6 working in WINE?
[09:46] <Ayabara> |_Spy_| : ctrl + alt + left/right is default I think
[09:46] <^Down> Can someone help me install libssh2?
[09:47] <ZenShado> brb, im going to look for my discs...they gotta be here somewhere...
[09:47] <Ayabara> |_SpY_|: I meant :-)
[09:47] <|_SpY_|> hummm.. and if i use 3d dekstop? have any special key to make it?
[09:47] <ompaul> jonathan_, have a look here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[09:47] <jonathan_> thankyou
[09:47] <ompaul> yw
[09:48] <ZenShado> Grrr...where could they be?!?!
[09:48] <jonathan_> ompaul i got a 404
[09:48] <|_SpY_|> hummm.. and if i use 3d dekstop? have any special key to make it?
[09:48] <American-Tech> Just installed ubunta and it keeps freezing at the sreensaver screen in pref
[09:49] <azathoth> ubunta?
[09:49] <digital> does anyone know why my wacom doesn't want to work like it does in windows?
[09:49] <graffoo> digital is your wacom on USB port?
[09:49] <Tomtheman70> ubunta - the new female version of ubuntu :P
[09:49] <digital> yes
[09:49] <iyank4> hi, how to istall mail server on dapper?
[09:50] <digital> yes it is graffoo
[09:50] <ompaul> jonathan_, give it a few minutes and try it again, if that fails give it a couple of hours
[09:50] <holycow_> pick one you like and use synaptic
[09:50] <graffoo> digital then you have to edit xorg.conf file - there is help what you need to change right in the file...
[09:50] <jonathan_> thanks
[09:50] <holycow_> the problem you are are going to run into is you need to know how "mail servers" work and configure that
[09:50] <holycow_> lots and lots of options generally are a little intimidating at first
[09:50] <digital> xorg.conf file is in my dev folder right
[09:50] <gerhard> what was the command to find out if im running fglrx?
[09:51] <dafart> fglrxinfo
[09:51] <ZenShado> i found a disc!  *download the iso to it*
[09:51] <ZenShado> oh crap...
[09:51] <iyank4> yap, i have install postfix courier-imap and courier-pop
[09:51] <iyank4> how to configure itu?
[09:51] <gerhard> dafart, thanks
[09:51] <iyank4> *it?
[09:51] <ZenShado> do i need something to burn .iso's to my cd with windows xp home?
[09:52] <Flannel> ompaul: wikis down, by the way ;)
[09:52] <ZenShado> !.iso
[09:52] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:52] <gerhard> dafart, if he doesnt understand the command, it means im not running fglrx, right?
[09:52] <ompaul> Flannel, noticed :-(
[09:52] <brendonjt> flannel: i know was just going there myself lol
[09:52] <ZenShado> Can someone help?
[09:52] <ompaul> Flannel, what is it about sunday morning
[09:52] <ZenShado> Who uses Windows XP
[09:52] <digital> !xorg.conf
[09:52] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:52] <Sakireth> Hey. help.ubuntu.com is down and i can't find any information on MySQL on ubuntu..
[09:52] <ompaul> !xorg
[09:52] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:52] <Flannel> ompaul: I think the cleaning lady unplugs the server to plug in her vacuum
[09:53] <ompaul> Flannel, one would like Canonical to rehome them
[09:53] <Ayabara> I need to format my external drive as ext3. will 'mkfs.ext3 /media/<diskname>' do the trick? any flags I should use. I'm not too good at file systems...
[09:53] <dafart> gerhard, possibly not
[09:53] <ZenShado> Okay, I'm using Windows XP Home, and want to burn the .iso, do I need a special program?
[09:53] <ompaul> Flannel, one would like Canonical or to hit the table with a big stick
[09:53] <dafart> gerhard, fglrx loaded (type lsmod)
[09:53] <dafart> ?
[09:53] <ompaul> ZenShado, just burn it as an "ISO" not a file
[09:53] <VaKo> anyone be able to shed some light on why the nvidia-glx package from the repositorys crashes X? is there a link to something explanining it?
[09:54] <ZenShado> ompaul: I'm not completely sure how to do that, oh this sucks, I have DSL
[09:54] <Flannel> ompaul: I someone should just buy the cleaning lady a power strip
[09:54] <gerhard> dafart, no thats not what it says just "command not understood"
[09:54] <ZenShado> it's gonna tak elike an hour
[09:54] <ZenShado> take like*
[09:54] <ZenShado> i have an AMD Sempron, should i get x86?
[09:54] <ompaul> ZenShado, yes
[09:54] <dafart> gerhard, you have to check if the fglrx kernel module is loaded correctly into the kernel, you do this by typing "lsmod" and look for fglrx
[09:54] <ZenShado> thanks
[09:55] <gerhard> dafart, good thanks
[09:55] <VaKo> could anyone help me with a nvidia/X problem with 6.06?
[09:55] <ompaul> ZenShado, please gather your thoughts and put them on one line, there are almost 800 here, using the enter key should be done when your full statement is made, thanks :)
[09:55] <graffoo> digital you find the file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:56] <digital> yeah
[09:56] <digital> I just found it graffoo, thank you though
[09:56] <gerhard> dafart, theres no fglry entry, but theres "radeon" several times
[09:56] <morphix> how do i add a printer, etc in xfce??
[09:57] <graffoo> ok. but remember to edit it as root...
[09:57] <ZenShado> ompaul: Okay, I just did not know they were all there, I'm very sorry, I'm used to doing it differently...by the way, this should take like 1 hour and 30 mins.
[09:57] <ompaul> morphix, askl in #xubuntu :-)
[09:57] <VaKo> is this the wrong place to ask for ubuntu support?
[09:57] <ZenShado> mp
[09:57] <ZenShado> no*
[09:57] <ompaul> ZenShado, then come back at that stage hopefully the wiki will be back at that stage
[09:57] <dafart> gerhard, in that case you don't have the correct xorg.conf
[09:57] <ompaul> !ask
[09:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:58] <dafart> gerhard, did you follow the guide?
[09:58] <ZenShado> Yea, I don't like wiki's they're not as helpful as live support though, by the way, I'm going to eat breakfast, how do I put an away message up in XChat?
[09:58] <gerhard> dafart, no, which guide? sorry i dont understand that so good.
[09:58] <dafart> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[09:58] <digital> graffoo, I can't save the changes I made... it says that I do not have permission. How do I get around that?
[09:58] <Flannel> ZenShado: don't.  Just walk away ;)
[09:58] <dafart> for example
[09:58] <ompaul> ZenShado, /away breakfast will do it silently
[09:58] <ZenShado> Lol, okay, thanks, see ya later!
[09:59] <Sakireth> Hey. help.ubuntu.com is down and i can't find any information on MySQL on ubuntu..
[09:59] <Sakireth> Whenever I try to add a user from the graphical tool, it crashes.
[09:59] <graffoo> digital, open up terminal and type: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:59] <Flannel> graffoo, digital, gksudo gedit
[09:59] <VaKo> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html  <--- when i follow this to install my nvidia mx440 graphics card, i get a BSOD from X
[09:59] <Sakireth> Well, when i go into the users section, that is.
[09:59] <graffoo> password is the same as when you log in
[10:00] <gerhard> dafart, thanks, that will help me I think
[10:02] <digital> ok, I've made my changes and saved... but my tablet still doesn't seem to be functioning correctly. Is there a guide somewhere I could refer to and save you guys the headache?
[10:02] <VaKo> i'm sorry, is there some kind of protocal i need to follow here if i want to get support?
[10:02] <ZenShado> Wow...we had like NOTHING to eat...so I'm back...to being bored
[10:02] <ZenShado> How do I turn the away message off ompaul?
[10:03] <ZenShado> !away
[10:03] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[10:03] <Sakireth> Anyone?
[10:03] <TheDude> hi there
[10:03] <VaKo> !guidelines
[10:03] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:04] <TheDude> I've a network-setup problem... I want to "share" my ubuntu-box's internet-connection with a windows box-standing next to it
[10:04] <ompaul> ZenShado, /away
[10:04] <ZenShado> thanks
[10:04] <lesshaste> when I use sshfs I get "fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory".. any ideas how to fix that?
[10:05] <StoneNote> Sakireth, since you didn't tell us what graphical tool you are having trouble with, no one knows if they have ever used it.
[10:05] <TheDude> The "problem" is... the ubuntu box works and is nicely setup (internet via wlan) but the windows-box only has a ethernet-card.
[10:05] <Shadow_pillar> so hook the windows box directly to the router
[10:05] <TheDude> what typical was is there to make the windows-box "see" the internet via the ubuntu-box?
[10:05] <Sakireth> StoneNote: Mysql-admin.
[10:06] <Shadow_pillar> most wireless routers have rj-45 as well
[10:06] <Shadow_pillar> bridged wireless
[10:06] <ZenShado> i'll be back in a bit!
[10:06] <ZenShado> c ya!
[10:06] <Sakireth> ok
[10:06] <bioticpro> anyone know how to setup X to use a usb game controller to control the mouse?
[10:06] <TheDude> shadowI can't... the wlan-router is far-away with severl walls in between.
[10:06] <bioticpro> mouse=pointer
[10:06] <lesshaste> ah... modprobe fuse fixes it
[10:06] <compengi> how to limit number of backgrounds/user
[10:07] <graffoo> digital, you have to logout, hit ctrl+alt+backspace and then login. If you get an error, run xconfig and follow the onscreen instructions...
[10:07] <digital> gimp still doesn't recogniz my wacom... does anyone know of a self help page?
[10:07] <digital> ok
[10:07] <TheDude> I've also an additional ethernet-card in the ubuntu box and connected the ubuntu-box with the windows-box via a crosslink patch cable.
[10:08] <American-Tech> How do i make sure I have the most updated driver for my video card?
[10:08] <daurnimator> hi all
[10:08] <TheDude> all I need to know is how to setup and configure the interface for the ethernet-card in the ubuntu-box so the windows box "sees" the internet-connection through that device.
[10:09] <frogzoo> American-Tech: often the latest driver hasn't been packaged
[10:09] <daurnimator> why is kernel-source  not in apt-get?
[10:09] <grigora> what could cause permission denied on /dev/null?
[10:09] <American-Tech> I have no sound with my install
[10:09] <compengi> TheDude you mean you want to rout 2 network cards right?
[10:09] <digital> gaffoo, thank you very much. Everything is working the way it should now! YAY!!!
[10:09] <|DrV> daurnimator, it's called linux-source
[10:09] <frogzoo> ls -ld /dev/null
[10:09] <frogzoo> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2006-05-31 11:15 /dev/null
[10:10] <graffoo> digital, congratulations ;)
[10:10] <digital> couln't have done it without your help
[10:10] <daurnimator> ah
[10:10] <daurnimator> ok
[10:10] <grigora> frogzoo: that's what I have
[10:10] <frogzoo> grigora: well what are you doing?
[10:10] <graffoo> this time me, next time you ;)
[10:11] <graffoo> is it working in Gimp?
[10:11] <compengi> TheDude so that the windows box will connect to the internet through linux box right?
[10:11] <grigora> frogzoo: I am trying to recover a damaged Ubuntu installation through Knoppix/chroot
[10:11] <TheDude> compengi, yes... the ubuntu box has a wlan (that where teh internet "coming from" through the wlan-router) and ethernet (connected to the windows box), the windows box only has a ethernet
[10:11] <digital> yes it is, I just configured it gaffoo
[10:11] <TheDude> compengi, yes that's the plan
[10:12] <frogzoo> grigora: likely that root is still read only maybe?
[10:12] <grigora> frogzoo: I get the error when I run apt-get dist-upgrade, because dpkg obviously can't use /dev/null
[10:12] <graffoo> i'm glad. have 2 go, bye...
[10:12] <digital> now all I need to do is get wine figured out (installation and running it) and then I'm pretty sure I will be able to muddle through the rest of this myself
[10:12] <digital> !wine
[10:12] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:12] <compengi> TheDude goto ##networking i think there you can get help
[10:12] <TheDude> compengi, the cable is a crosslink patch-cable... and I already was able to ping form the windows-box to the ubuntu-box
[10:12] <TheDude> compengi, there they only said use a firewall... which didn't help very much to be honest
[10:13] <grigora> frogzoo: not really, I can store files in the chroot, but I can't do echo hello > /dev/null
[10:13] <grigora> frogzoo: I get a permission denied
[10:13] <graffoo> digital, for wine - install it with automatix - www.getautomatix.org - i did it that way and now windows apps are working by simply double click on them in file manager
[10:13] <sda> hi. I'm having trouble with the default latex-compiler of ubuntu. ie. the one supplied with the system. I have a feeling it's an obsolete version or so, since it fails to compile examples from guides such as "the not so short guide to LaTeX"
[10:13] <digital> nice
[10:13] <VaKo> Ii'm having trouble with the latest nvidia driver for my MX440, when i install it via synaptic and run the config as stated in the support wiki, X gives me a BSOD, can anyone give me ANY help with this?
[10:14] <digital> thank you again graffoo
[10:14] <frogzoo> grigora: mount |grep '/ '
[10:14] <sda> I've looked trough the packages containing "tex" in the name in synaptic, but I can't find anything that isn't installed that should be
[10:14] <grigora> frogzoo: just found this - http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Dev_null_permission_denied - FYI
[10:14] <Nilvio> enyone know something macro program to linux ?
[10:14] <frogzoo> grigora: mount |grep '/ '
[10:14] <compengi> how to limit number of backgrounds/user?
[10:15] <lhds> i want to create a .sh script ... to do so i nano filename.sh? than chmox +x filename? than i type to filename.sh and its supposed to run? if its not working whats wrong?
[10:15] <Nuker> Does Ubuntu installs some kind of Dual Boot so it can run next to windows?
[10:18] <grigora> frogzoo: thanks for your help
[10:19] <nekoz> eh
[10:19] <nekoz> my grub is borked
[10:19] <nekoz> and i tried the using the install cd // live cd method
[10:20] <nekoz> and it crashes the installer
[10:20] <nekoz> :/
[10:20] <nekoz> in the mean time....
[10:20] <nekoz> how do i burn a dvd image from command line??
[10:20] <nekoz> [while using the live cd of course] 
[10:20] <nekoz> i cant use cdrecord right?
[10:20] <VaKo> where can i find a decent support service for ubuntu?
[10:20] <molkko> i have dapper desktop installed. what is the most straighforward way to install apache-php-mysql on top of this?
[10:21] <molkko> cant read from wiki. it seems to be down
[10:21] <TEN> VaKo You're part of it right now ;-)
[10:21] <VaKo> then can anyone help me with this nvidia driver/X 7.1 issue?
[10:21] <TheGateKeeper_> if you (k)ubuntu NOT to do the file system I seem to remember you putting an empty file I think in the / called .faststart is that correct?
[10:21] <holycow_> molkko, just use synaptic to start
[10:22] <TheGateKeeper_> *file system check
[10:22] <VaKo> the guide on the wiki just gives me a X bsod and dumps me back at the CLI
[10:22] <gbrent> anyone know of a way to reconfigure the xserver like it was durring the install... I have no xorg.conf file or its backups?
[10:22] <VaKo> and nothing i've tried has fixed it
[10:22] <kholerabbi> Could someone tell me how to install the experience-engine from http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/1057
[10:23] <gbrent> kholerabbi: does it have a repository?
[10:23] <kholerabbi> I don't think so
[10:23] <TEN> How do I set a simple font for X consoles (e.g. as from fvwm2 defaults in http://vdr-portal.de/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1164, or even a bitmap one) on Xubuntu, rather than the default vector fonts needing antialiasing and wasting a lot of "screen real estate" on lower-resolution LCDs?
[10:23] <kholerabbi> Its just a tar
[10:23] <Nuker> Does Ubuntu installs some kind of Dual Boot so it can run next to windows?
[10:23] <TheGateKeeper_> gbrent: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall
[10:24] <gbrent> Nuker: you can but  would install Windows first
[10:24] <compengi> how to limit number of backgrounds/user?
[10:24] <Nuker> gbrent, thanks
[10:24] <TEN> As in http://vdr-portal.de/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=11646 that is, of course
[10:24] <sphivo> gbrent: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and answer "yes" when it asks to autodetect anything
[10:25] <kholerabbi> Nuker: If you install windows after you install ubuntu you wont be able to launch ubuntu because windows wipes the GRUB (which allows you to pick the operating system you wont to run at startup)
[10:25] <nekoz> Nuker: theoretically you can save your linux install even if you install windows second
[10:25] <nekoz> personally im having a bit of trouble with it but meh
[10:25] <nekoz> ;p
[10:25] <compengi> how to limit number of backgrounds/user?
[10:25] <kingdong> you need to reinstall grub to the bootloader if it gets wiped, grub-install will do it for you
[10:25] <Nuker> thanks once again ;)
[10:26] <gbrent> TheGateKeeper, sphivo: I have have tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg with no luck once i startx
[10:26] <VaKo> how do i install nvidia drivers on 6.06 without X crashing at startup? anyone?
[10:28] <gbrent> sphivo: wow, your way worked, I justhit enter all the way through without looking
[10:28] <nekoz> kingdong:
[10:28] <nekoz> i tried that btw
[10:28] <gbrent> sphivo: I was about to reinstall
[10:28] <nekoz> grub-install /dev/hda
[10:28] <gbrent> thank you
[10:28] <nekoz> and
[10:28] <sphivo> gbrent: No problem.
[10:28] <nekoz> grub-install /dev/hda3
[10:28] <nekoz> neither worked/.// gave some error about not being able to find /boot/
[10:29] <TEN> VaKo Most of ZA/EU/US/CA who could tell us about X are probably asleep right now though ;-)
[10:29] <clem-vangelis> hi all , i have a big problem with sudo cmd , i don't do anuything and sudo give me that error : bash: /usr/bin/sudo permission denied
[10:29] <clem-vangelis> very strange thing
[10:29] <mart> hi again, i have installed the nvidia drivers for amd64 but when i boot up it cannot start xserver as it says the kernel its using is not the same as the nvidia one
[10:29] <marius24> please tell me how to enable the 7.1 in ubuntu 6 ?   i just installed it i have an audigy 4
[10:30] <VaKo> there asleep? bugger
[10:30] <mart> something like X uses kernel 7174 and i installed 8774
[10:30] <mart> is there anyway to update the kernel the gui uses?
[10:30] <nekoz> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[10:30] <nekoz> that error kingdong
[10:30] <American-Tech> When I go to set my screen saver in Ubuntu it always freezes the computer
[10:30] <American-Tech> any thouhgt?
[10:30] <Drako60> mart, are you using XGL?
[10:31] <mart> honestly... not sure
[10:31] <mart> lol
[10:31] <mart> im very new
[10:31] <mart> 1 day on ubuntu
[10:31] <marius24> any one can help me ?
[10:31] <Drako60> mart, did you install the nvidia drivers from apt or from the nvidia website?
[10:31] <mart> nvidia site
[10:31] <mart> first i installed nvidia-glx
[10:31] <mart> that works
[10:32] <mart> but i was getting problems with some games, shakey graphics
[10:32] <mart> so installed the latest headers for my kernel
[10:32] <Drako60> mart, nvidia-glx is conflicting with the nvidia drivers
[10:32] <gbrent> sphivo: now I get logged out as soon as I log into gnome and it goes to command line.. then after 10sec is goes to the xlogin screen
[10:32] <kingdong> nekoz: maybe it is a bug, did you try doing it manually from the grub prompt?
[10:32] <gbrent> sphivo: I did a apt-get --reinstall install on gnome
[10:32] <Drako60> mart, dpkg --purge remove nvidia-glx
[10:32] <gbrent> sphivo: that still did not help
[10:33] <mart> ah, will try that
[10:33] <marius24> ok i managed to get them work  7.1
[10:33] <marius24> tnx
[10:33] <marius24> for nothin :)
[10:33] <bjohag> i cant comeonline with my laptop with xubuntu when i bott the os from my hard drive, but it works when i boot from the CD
[10:33] <Drako60> mart, you may have to reinstall the nvidia drivers again after you do that
[10:33] <bjohag> boot :)
[10:33] <mart> massive help
[10:33] <mart> will be a while... keep having to load up windows just to check the net :P
[10:34] <gbrent> Drako60: Im back and got everything going. I had to reconfigure x a million times but now I assume I have a good config
[10:34] <Drako60> mart, if you do ctrl+alt+f1 you should get a command line and be able to log in to your computer
[10:34] <TheGateKeeper_> anyone remember the name of the empty file you need to add to stop (k)ubuntu doing it's file system check on boot up?
[10:35] <bjohag> is there anyone who have had this problem?
[10:35] <Drako60> mart, you can then type irssi which is a text based irc client
[10:35] <mart> ah no
[10:35] <mart> the gui will not load at all
[10:35] <Drako60> gbrent, no other problems pop up?
[10:35] <mart> thats when i get the error about using a different kernel
[10:35] <kingdong> bjohag: did you configure your network settings correctly
[10:35] <Drako60> mart, ctrl+alt+f1 takes you to a text command line, so you can log into your machine from a terminal, there is no x invovled in using the terminal
[10:36] <gbrent> Drako60: maybe you could help me out with this issue, its what started this whole quest: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1454505#post1454505
[10:36] <mart> cant remember what the error had now.. :P
[10:36] <mart> i think it was refering to my GUI
[10:36] <mart> whatever that is actually called
[10:36] <mart> i know.. im crap :P lol
[10:36] <sphivo> gbrent: How did you get in this situation?  Reinstalling the gnome package will just reinstall a tiny metapackage, you may want to remove something low-level like libgtk2.0 (and all its deps), then re-install ubuntu-desktop to make sure your gnome is like-new.
[10:37] <bjohag> kingdong: i have tried, but xubuntu cant even find the ethernet card ... it can when i boot from the cd though
[10:37] <mart> i'll purge the nvidia glx, and actually write the error down
[10:37] <sphivo> gbrent: Unless it's a gdm issue or something.
[10:37] <Drako60> mart, i'm just saying you can log in from the terminal so you don't have to go back and forth to windows
[10:37] <gbrent> sphivo: yeah, I am not sure where the issues lies yet
[10:37] <mart> thankyou
[10:38] <gbrent> sphivo: definatly gdm or gnome
[10:38] <Drako60> gbrent, i suggest you check this thread out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139264
[10:38] <compengi> how to limit number of backgrounds/user?
[10:38] <bioticpro> what is a good program to join video clips?
[10:38] <American-Tech> fixed
[10:38] <Lathiat> compengi: you can set a number of processes limit in /etc/security/limits.conf
[10:38] <Lathiat> compengi: i think this applies in trees tho (e.g. per login) and not globally
[10:39] <PiTT> i have a question
[10:39] <PiTT> i mounted my NTFS drives
[10:39] <PiTT> but they show up on my desktop
[10:39] <PiTT> i dont want that
[10:39] <PiTT> how can i remove the drive icosn from there?
[10:39] <digital> hola all
[10:39] <PiTT> only option i have is to "unmount drive"
[10:39] <Naik0> Hey im doing my own bash script with some commands. Im newbie so im just testing. But could i make a script that gets information from my mysql database?
[10:39] <Nilvio> how i can script mouse macro ?
[10:39] <Ayabara> how can I tell X if it should use kdm og gdm?
[10:40] <compengi> Lathiat this limits number of processes/user but not how many things that can be connected to the net
[10:40] <mjr> Ayabara, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or kdm) should ask which to be used
[10:40] <digital> could anyone please tell me how to configure wine?
[10:40] <digital> !wine.conf
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <MetaMorfoziS> winecfg
[10:40] <VaKo> is there a list of major companies that use ubuntu?
[10:40] <MetaMorfoziS> or wine regedit
[10:40] <gbrent> Drako60: what page... there are 118 pages
[10:40] <Lathiat> compengi: you cant really do that
[10:41] <Ayabara> mjr: that did the trick. thanks!!
[10:41] <Lathiat> compengi: without writing some custom script to hunt for connections and the like and kill off extras
[10:41] <gbrent> Drako60: just everything about installing nVidia in general?
[10:41] <compengi> lathiat i see
[10:42] <Drako60> gbrent, thats almost all the problems you can encounter with using the nvidia drivers, check around pages 6-10 or so if i recall correctly
[10:47] <u221e> Great... the wiki is down, just when I need it.
[10:48] <richard__> im having trouble uninstalling the Azureus version with gtk
[10:48] <Ayabara> I have a fan problem with my inspiron 6000. sounds like the fan is at a high speed all the time in ubuntu. seem to recall that installing chipset drivers for intel fixed it under windows, but what can I do in linux?
[10:48] <richard__> its loacated in the opt folder
[10:49] <richard__> how do i uninstall it?
[10:49] <Drako60> richard__, did you use apt to install it?
[10:49] <pippo12> Hi from Italy
[10:50] <richard__> I dont recall
[10:50] <compengi> Lathiat i have a question how can i benifit with limiting number of processes?
[10:50] <printk> Hi, you have good lasagna
[10:50] <Drako60> richard__, open synaptic and search for azureus, if its marked green right click remove
[10:50] <richard__> done that
[10:50] <richard__> failed
[10:50] <Lathiat> compengi: i dont know why do you want to limit them in the first place?
[10:50] <Lathiat> compengi: sounds like your trying to do a shell-server type thing?
[10:50] <k31th> yo, any of you guys have jackd setup ??
[10:51] <compengi> Lathiat kind of yes
[10:51] <pippo12> very good lasagna e maccheroni ;)
[10:51] <Drako60> richard__, odd i have Azureus installed but its not in /opt
[10:51] <printk> limiting number of processes on a user bases?
[10:51] <[H] 3b0R> what how do i make gdm use .xsession?
[10:51] <richard__> there are two versions of azureus
[10:51] <Drako60> richard__, is there an uninstall-sh in the azureus dir?
[10:52] <compengi> printk yes
[10:52] <Victoras> hi i am victor compengi
[10:52] <compengi> Victoras hi
[10:52] <richard__> no unistall-sh
[10:52] <Victoras> how are you . would you like to chat
[10:53] <compengi> Victoras chat about what
[10:53] <Victoras> hei compengi answer!
[10:53] <compengi> hi
[10:53] <compengi> lol'
[10:53] <Victoras> where are you?
[10:53] <Alxandra> i have a problem with that xserver error can anyone please help me
[10:53] <peter____> how can i restore the original ubuntu login screen after installing KDE, and XFCE?
[10:53] <compengi> i'm fine, you
[10:53] <Drako60> Alxandra, what is the error?
[10:54] <siezer> Im looking to find a way to grant users who log into a workstation locally (at the console) different permissions to devices (cdrom, soundcard, etc) than a user that logs in remotely (ssh, whatever).... I've heard of this being done but an having a hard time googling for it (console is a vauge term), any ideas?
[10:54] <cafuego> If you want to, sure.
[10:54] <Victoras> compengi Please tel me in wich country are you compengi?
[10:54] <ChaosFan> compengi, Victoras: don't you think it would be more appropriate using a query for private conversation/
[10:54] <richard__> no unistall-sh
[10:54] <Victoras> Ok] 
[10:54] <richard__> any ideas Drak060
[10:54] <compengi> ChaosFan lol that's what i was thinking of lol
[10:55] <Alxandra> i downgraded my xserver core to 10.0
[10:55] <Alxandra> upgraded to 10.4
[10:55] <Alxandra> but none of them worked
[10:55] <Alxandra> Drako60
[10:55] <Drako60> richard__, hmm none, i have Teamspeak installed and its in /opt but it created an uninstall script
[10:55] <gbrent> sphivo: I dont have a package called libgtk2.0. Did you mean something else?
[10:55] <Drako60> Alxandra, what error does X give you?
[10:55] <Victoras> hei compengi lets talk about music!
[10:55] <Alxandra> x server failed
[10:56] <ChaosFan> !offtopic > Victoras
[10:56] <Victoras> hei chaos fan i whas chatin with compengi!!!!!!!!
[10:57] <Alxandra> anybody has any idea about thata popular xserver error
[10:57] <ChaosFan> Victoras: and this is an ubuntu support channel, not intended for private conversation
[10:57] <Victoras> hei alexandra iknow
[10:57] <Flannel> Victoras: Chatting belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is specifically for support related items, thanks
[10:57] <sphivo> gbrent: libgtk2.0-0
[10:58] <Victoras> i am sorry but i am the first time on chat!
[10:58] <gbrent> sphivo: how do I specify all its dependants. doesn't it auto do that?
[10:58] <Alxandra> Victoras
[10:58] <sphivo> gbrent: It will
[10:58] <yoshiznit123> anybody know what's up with the wiki
[10:58] <Lunar_Raven> hmmmmm im in the kubuntu room but no one seems to know the answer to my question..im assuming its similar for ubuntu.  How would I restore default desktop settings for my kubuntu system?
[10:58] <gbrent> sweet
[10:58] <NineTeen67Comet> Whelp .. When I reboot or shut down it halts at the "Will Now Reboot" line on shutdown .. I have to hold the power button in for a while to shut it off, then again to turn it on .. what might I start looking at for this?
[10:58] <Victoras> Alexandra the server is humunuku apua
[10:59] <Alxandra> did you have this problem also (xserver fail)
[10:59] <detectiveinspekt> Trying to install a new driver but /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ doesn't exist
[10:59] <detectiveinspekt> where do X drivers go?
[10:59] <Victoras> no
[10:59] <Flannel> Lunar_Raven: nope, that's fairly kubuntu specific.  Youre talking about the KDE options, right?
[10:59] <Lunar_Raven> ah yes, but I thought all you had to do was reinstall kubuntu-default-settings
[10:59] <Lunar_Raven> but that didnt work
[10:59] <castra> hi all ..do you guys have problems with external usb drive mounting? I get error msg that drive can't be mounted coz there is nothing thats pointing to it inn fstab !! Only way to mount it is to use mount command as root !
[10:59] <Lunar_Raven> but yes, kde
[10:59] <Lunar_Raven> heh
[10:59] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[11:00] <Victoras> hei alexandra do you want to talk about films
[11:00] <Victoras>  8-)
[11:00] <Flannel> Lunar_Raven: you might try a purge, er, Im not familiar with Adept terminology.  "Complete Removal" in synaptic.  It removes config files as well.
[11:00] <Victoras>  :'(
[11:00] <Flannel> Victoras: please, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic (/join #ubuntu-offtopic)
[11:00] <gbrent> sphivo: I did an apt-get --reinstall install libgtk2.0-0 but it only took about 40 sec. That does not seem right does it?
[11:00] <peter____> how can i restore the original ubuntu login-screen?
[11:00] <Alxandra> i cant watch any films now. gnome doent start
[11:00] <Lunar_Raven> ok thanks flannel
[11:00] <mart> hi again...
[11:01] <Victoras> what?lets chat please
[11:01] <sphivo> gbrent: I mean "apt-get remove libgtk2.0-0" let it get rid of dozens of deps, then "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to make sure your gnome is as-shipped.
[11:01] <ChaosFan> Victoras: join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat, not this channel, please
[11:02] <Victoras> whats your problem flannel
[11:02] <gbrent> will do, thanks
[11:02] <Flannel> Victoras: this is NOT a chatting channel.  #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chatting
[11:03] <victi> shut up flannel
[11:03] <castra> Victoras, Flannel is right, this channel is all about ubuntu support ... none related issues are not to be talked about in here
[11:03] <gbrent> sphivo: WOW 727mb - ill be back to give the results
[11:03] <ChaosFan> victi: and stay polite. the way you're acting you're not making friends in here
[11:03] <victi> oh yes and what does it mean ubunutu
[11:04] <mart> i have an API mismatch error when booting up,
[11:04] <sphivo> gbrent: If you know your system was screwed playing with X, config, don't waste the time doing that, though.
[11:04] <sphivo> (I saw you talking about nvidia install since I said that.)
[11:04] <victi> hei any body dosent wants to answer
[11:05] <mart> says Failed to start Xserver(your GUI) would you like to se output
[11:05] <ChaosFan> victi: you don't know what ubuntu is?
[11:05] <gbrent> sphivo: well x is doing great now... this is my original issue. I jacked things up trying to resolve my original isue
[11:05] <castra> guys..ideas about my Q ?
[11:05] <mart> output says api mismatch the nvidia kernel module have version 7174
[11:05] <sphivo> gbrent: Haha, OK.
[11:05] <mart> this X module has the version 8774
[11:06] <mart> anyone seen that before?
[11:06] <Ayabara> I need a backup tool for incremental backup to an external harddrive. anyone here using simplebackup or kdar?
[11:06] <ChaosFan> castra: what about creating the line in fstab?
[11:06] <mart> I have tried purging nvidia glx, and uninstalling then reinstalling the nvidia drivers
[11:06] <gbrent> sphivo: can i specify my ubuntu cd as the repository and then do updates instead of downloading everything? I have never set the CD as the repo
[11:07] <ChaosFan> gbrent: your cd will not be very up-to-date...
[11:07] <ChaosFan> gbrent: it's kind of... static
[11:07] <castra> ChaosFan, yes I could do that but was wondering WHY it can't do it on the fly ?
[11:07] <sphivo> gbrent: Most of it'll have to be re-downloaded anyway.
[11:08] <gbrent> ChaosFan: Mines magical
[11:08] <gbrent> Ill just download
[11:08] <ChaosFan> castra: can you do something on the fly you know nothing about?
[11:09] <opexoc> Can you tell me how Linus could write linux? I know that he modeled his kernel on unix kernel, but how he knew unix kernel is build?
[11:09] <castra> ChaosFan, I belive that previous version could mount it with out be adding stuff to fstab due to the fact that udev could detect it and add line needed to be able to mount drive
[11:09] <Flannel> opexoc: he didn't.
[11:09] <shonen> i'm trying to get a better resolution out of my ubuntu install. right now all I can use is 1024x768 even though all the monitor lines for all the depths in xorg.conf say only "1280x960" (my target resolution). how do I make gnome's res 1280x960?
[11:09] <ChaosFan> castra: then there was an appropriate udev rule
[11:10] <nostalgeek> how could I easly configure boot default in grub?
[11:10] <ChaosFan> castra: but somewhere in a file there has to be information about what to do
[11:10] <opexoc> Flannel: so how he knew like linux kernel should have seen?
[11:10] <gbrent> sphivo: So why don't I just do a reinstall? Everything will disapear exept things in my home directory by doing it how I am now. I do like the challenge rescue the system however
[11:11] <ChaosFan> opexoc: i believe he used "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation" by Tanenbaum
[11:11] <ChaosFan> opexoc: and implemented what he needed, then he opened the source, users used it, and they implemented what they needed. so it did grow
[11:11] <Flannel> opexoc: because he had an idea as to how it should behave, and from that, you can decide how you want it to work.  This is really a better topic for #ubuntu-offtopic though, we can continue there if you still have questions
[11:12] <shonen> gnome's only supported res on my box is 1024x768, even though my xorg.conf is set to 1280x960. how do i add 1280x960 as an option?
[11:13] <sphivo> gbrent: Whatever you prefer; I tend to use reinstall only as the nuclear option.
[11:13] <sphivo> gbrent: Seeing as the update will be >700MB, may as well.
[11:14] <opexoc> ChaosFan: I read that he was reading some source of some educational unix-like-kernel, maybe written by Tanenbaum... but if it is true, so how Tanenbaum knew how should looks like the unix kernel?
[11:15] <ChaosFan> opexoc: he read the minix source
[11:15] <gbrent> sphivo: I think Im gonna because there is no gareentee that this will work when it is done. If it didn't then I would jump off a cliff. I only installed Ubuntu a few days ago for the first time ever. Im reinstalling
[11:15] <ChaosFan> opexoc: thats the example OS discussed in the aforementioned book
[11:15] <timjohn> hey everyone, I've got a question about my T21 laptop.........
[11:15] <sphivo> gbrent: Good luck, hope it goes well for you.
[11:16] <kingdong> go ahead timjohn
[11:16] <grigora> hi, I am having trouble booting from GRUB, even though the kernel image is available I still get a file not found error
[11:16] <gbrent> sphivo: what can go wrong on an install that I know already works fine with defaults. see you all in a bit. laters
[11:16] <grigora> any ideas?
[11:16] <timjohn> it periodically freezes at the PCI interupt step on the boot.
[11:16] <ChaosFan> opexoc: but minix uses a microkernel, linus decided to use a monolithic one, and how tanenbaum kew about the unix kernel... i think he just had enough experienced, he already taught the subject for a while back then
[11:16] <opexoc> ChaosFan: hmm... so Minix has open soruce? Is it unix? Is there any unix which has open source?
[11:17] <Flannel> opexoc: one doesn't need to see the source / know how something works to be able to mimic it.  Its pretty easy once youre familiar with how it interacts with everything.
[11:17] <ChaosFan> opexoc: linux, for example. and minix is "open for educational purposes"
[11:17] <pingu> opexoc: the closest you are going to find is one of the free BSD's.
[11:17] <castra> ChaosFan, so you are confirming what I suspected that lates ubuntu can't mount stuff on its own..thanks
[11:17] <grigora> anyone knows why grub wouldn't find the kernel image when it's in /boot?
[11:18] <opexoc> ChaosFan: hm... linux is not a unix...
[11:18] <pingu> Well, only unix is really a unix.
[11:18] <ChaosFan> opexoc: it's unix-like, but what do you want?
[11:19] <opexoc> ChaosFan:  I want to find out is there truly unix which has open source?
[11:19] <ChaosFan> opexoc: due to SCO, the answer to this question must be "no".
[11:20] <ompaul> opexoc, free software or open source - you could try playing with opensolaris when you do remember this ubuntu on the niagra platform served more pages out of the box than opensolaris
[11:20] <opexoc> ChaosFan: so... minix is not really unix...
[11:20] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:21] <ChaosFan> opexoc: only unix is really unix. and unix is owned by SCO.
[11:21] <opexoc> ChaosFan: and linus did not base on true unix
[11:21] <bbrazil> ChaosFan: eh, no. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:22] <ompaul> ChaosFan, opexoc please take that conversation to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:22] <rambo3> someone digging up old news
[11:22] <opexoc> I have gone there...
[11:22] <ChaosFan> opexoc: i send you a private message
[11:23] <opexoc> ChaosFan: I did not see any...
[11:24] <AlexC> Hey,
[11:24] <AlexC> How can I use CVS in Ubuntu?
[11:24] <eric_1> hello... can i ask how to install kde??
[11:24] <AlexC> Like to connect to to a CVS server and download the files?
[11:24] <ChaosFan> opexoc: my fault, the other channel, then
[11:24] <bbrazil> AlexC: yes
[11:25] <AlexC> bbrazil, yes? that makes no sesne =)
[11:25] <eric_1> can anyone help me how to install kde
[11:25] <eric_1> i cant get it to work when i type: aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:25] <MetaMorfoziS> eric_1: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:25] <bbrazil> AlexC: apt-get install cvs
[11:25] <eric_1> i already tried that Meta
[11:25] <MetaMorfoziS> not aptitude
[11:25] <ompaul> eric_1, use sudo
[11:25] <MetaMorfoziS> apt-get
[11:25] <MetaMorfoziS> yes sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:26] <eric_1> i am getting errors when i use apt-get meta
[11:26] <MetaMorfoziS> what errors?
[11:26] <eric_1> wait
[11:26] <MetaMorfoziS> ok if it's much, use pastebin
[11:26] <eric_1> E: Broken Packages
[11:26] <richard__> HELP .... anyone know how to uninstall the blackdown version of Azureus??
[11:27] <eric_1> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:27] <eric_1> kubuntu-desktop: Depends: amarok but it is not going to be installed
[11:27] <ompaul> eric_1, don't paste here
[11:27] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo apt-get -f install
[11:27] <eric_1> oops sorry ompaul
[11:27] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo apt-get -f install
[11:27] <ompaul> eric_1, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org for all that
[11:27] <eric_1> can i send you private message MetaMorfoziS?
[11:27] <MetaMorfoziS> it tries to repair the dependencies
[11:27] <MetaMorfoziS> eric_1:yes via pastebin
[11:27] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ in topic
[11:28] <opexoc> ChaosFan: but something else question I have... Could you back to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:28] <ompaul> eric_1, just do what MetaMorfoziS suggested "sudo apt-get -f install"
[11:28] <MetaMorfoziS> that service able to copy a lot of lines, and store, and you only need to link it.
[11:28] <eric_1> then?
[11:28] <ompaul> eric_1, then try it again
[11:29] <eric_1> i still get the same error
[11:29] <AlexC> Woah, CVS is confusing - could someone help me connect to  a server and dowload all files please?
[11:29] <eric_1> sorry guys, am still new to this
[11:29] <MetaMorfoziS> eric_1:it's not problem
[11:29] <eric_1> MetaMorfoziS i still get the same error
[11:29] <MetaMorfoziS> we are there only for help
[11:29] <MetaMorfoziS> eric_1:pastebin it
[11:30] <eric_1> what @ Meta
[11:30] <MetaMorfoziS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:30] <iyank4> i have install postfix + courier imap, i can send email with mutt, but i can not login via imap
[11:30] <MetaMorfoziS> eric_1: check: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and copy your error to the textarea, and submit and link that..
[11:31] <crashd> morning guys :)
[11:31] <Dead_> yo
[11:31] <crashd> just trying to remember what that sourcefork of xmms is called, as i need a decent mp3 player
[11:31] <crashd> and the ones that come stock with ubuntu don't gel for me
[11:31] <Dead_> g besoin daide
[11:31] <iyank4> evening here :-)
[11:31] <MetaMorfoziS>   foooood:D
[11:32] <eric_1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22418 <- here meta
[11:32] <timjohn> I got disconected in case someone had an answer for my problem. if not, I get stalled at the PCI interrupt step on the boot process, this doesn't happen always, just 4 out of 5 times I boot...
[11:32] <AlexC> Woah, CVS is confusing - could someone help me connect to  a server and dowload all files please?
[11:33] <ookami> how can i check if doublebuffer is working properly? I have specified load dbe in the xorg, but conky is failing to use double buffer... so, i need to check if its working right
[11:33] <iyank4> i have install postfix + courier imap, i can send email with mutt, but i can not login via imap, help pls, URGENT
[11:33] <eric_1> @ MetaMorfoziS -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22418
[11:33] <MetaMorfoziS> i seee...
[11:34] <MetaMorfoziS> what distro did you use?
[11:34] <eric_1> the 6.06 LTS
[11:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno what causes this error, trying google...
[11:35] <MetaMorfoziS> did you dist-upgraded?
[11:35] <eric_1> upgraded?
[11:35] <eric_1> not yet
[11:35] <pc22> is there ubuntu for imate?
[11:36] <eric_1> done
[11:36] <AlexC> How can I connect to a CVS Server and download all files?
[11:36] <ookami> how can i test double buffer / dbe ?
[11:36] <eric_1> any other way to install kde??
[11:37] <eric_1> am clueless
[11:37] <eric_1> :-s
[11:37] <MetaMorfoziS> eric_1: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186672
[11:38] <MetaMorfoziS> it linked from: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-186570.html
[11:38] <ompaul> *** note *** this is back https://help.ubuntu.com/
[11:38] <rambo3> !infor libgcj7 edgy
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infor libgcj7 edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <kingdong> thx ompaul i was waiting
[11:38] <rambo3> !info libgcj7 edgy
[11:38] <AlexC> No one in here knows anything about CVS??
[11:38] <ubotu> Package libgcj7 does not exist in edgy
[11:39] <eric_1> aight thanks
[11:39] <Lynoure> Many do, I bet
[11:39] <AlexC> How can I connect to a CVS Server and download all files?
[11:39] <ChaosFan> AlexC: usually you know what you want to check out from cvs
[11:39] <timjohn> Anyone have any idea bout my PCI interrupt problem?
[11:40] <ookami> I noticed something odd today, i have a tri-monitor set up and when i drag any video graphics intense item to my far right monitor, it shoots my cpu up to 100%, but when its in the other two monitors it goes back down to 12%.  wierd.
[11:40] <AlexC> ChaosFan, I want to get all files from it - I'm trying to get Horde Whups Bug Trackign,
[11:40] <AlexC> ChaosFan, http://www.horde.org/whups/ -> But they've made it so damm hard to download
[11:41] <iyank4> how i configure courier-imap, so it can accept user connection
[11:41] <daurnimator> how can i stop ubuntu from picking up my tv cards ir sensor?
[11:41] <daurnimator> - its doing it by default
[11:41] <ChaosFan> AlexC: there is an howto on that site
[11:41] <daurnimator> and i can't seem to disable it
[11:41] <daurnimator> - i need it for otehr things
[11:41] <daurnimator> :S
[11:42] <Begasus> howdy peeps
[11:42] <Begasus> is there anyone that know how to uninstall a installed version for Pixel on ubuntu?
[11:42] <rambo3> !info libgcj7
[11:42] <ubotu> libgcj7: Java runtime library for use with gcj. In component main, is optional. Version 4.1.0-1ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 5968 kB, installed size 20840 kB
[11:43] <ChaosFan> AlexC: CVS/Source->Using CVS. which modules you can get is listed in cvs/source->modules
[11:46] <TEN> modprobe dvb-ttpci keeps failing with a "could not load firmware, file not found: dvb-ttpci-01.fw" message - after the firmware is in place and does have the rights of chown a+r ... is it looking in a different location than usr/lib/hotplug/firmware as the error message claims:
[11:47] <AlexC> ChaosFan, yeh I just don't understand it _at_ all
[11:47] <bjohag> hi again
[11:47] <detectiveinspekt> where do xorg drivers go? /usr/lib/modules/drivers doesn't exist
[11:48] <ChaosFan> AlexC: just type the commands available there into a shell
[11:48] <bjohag> still can?t get my network card to work in xubuntu ... does anyone know why the card works when you boot from the CD but not when you boot from the hard drive
[11:48] <AlexC> ChaosFan, yeh I've logged in - like it said, but now what do I do? It didn't _do_ anything
[11:48] <eric_1> @MetaMorfoziS i edit the sources.list and replaced it with a clean dapper sources.list
[11:48] <crashd> bjohag: which network card do you have?
[11:49] <eric_1> i still need to run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade right?
[11:49] <ChaosFan> AlexC: you logged in? the do cvs co <module>, where <module> is one of those listen on the modules page
[11:50] <bjohag> it is a xircom network insert card for a laptop
[11:50] <AlexC> ChaosFan, Ok, now it's going loads of CVS Checkouts,
[11:50] <AlexC> ChaosFan, ahhh, it's downloading them =) I think
[11:50] <ChaosFan> AlexC: what you get now is called a "working copy" ;)
[11:51] <daurnimator> hey all
[11:51] <daurnimator> how do i install lirc?
[11:51] <daurnimator> i've tried about 6 different aprroaches
[11:51] <daurnimator> but they all end up at an ubuntu specific problem
[11:51] <eric_1> meta... thanks... the installation did not atopped
[11:51] <eric_1> ;)
[11:51] <daurnimator> nost common being https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/28941
[11:51] <daurnimator> *most
[11:51] <AlexC> ChaosFan, cool =)
[11:52] <AlexC> thanks,
[11:52] <daurnimator> - how can i get lirc to work/compile
[11:52] <ChaosFan> AlexC: welcome ;)
[11:54] <richard__> how do i uninstall a NON apt-get installed file with no unistall script?
[11:54] <bjohag> just so strange that it works with the CD but not from the hard drive ..
[11:54] <AlexC> Whens Edgy released again? October?
[11:55] <richard__> im trying to uninstall Azureus
[11:55] <narasim_7> Is there a firewall software like Zonealarm for ubuntu?
[11:55] <richard__> blackdown version
[11:55] <richard__> narasim ... Firestarter
[11:55] <Ramunas> narasim_7: there is "firestarter"
[11:55] <MetaMorfoziS> eric_1:no, dist-upgrade not needed
[11:56] <MetaMorfoziS> apt-get update
[11:56] <MetaMorfoziS> and apt-get upgrade
[11:56] <narasim_7> richard__: firestarteR is ok but I am asking about an application layer firewall
[11:56] <MetaMorfoziS> andor apt-get -f install
[11:56] <mtholdenss> hey when i first do the cube transition for the first time when i start up ubuntu, it half shows the animation but then changes to the next workstation then i try again and its fine, it jitters for the first time, anyone heard of that, it could be xgl runing slow or something...
[11:56] <mtholdenss> what metamofozis?
[11:56] <narasim_7> richard__: Ramunas :by which I can allow or deny applications..
[11:57] <ookami> how can i check if double buffer extensions are working properly?
[11:57] <pingu> I don't think there is such a thing narasim_7.
[11:57] <eric_1> when the kde installation finished... what else will i do to make it run on the next reboot??
[11:57] <narasim_7> pingu: thanks
[11:57] <eric_1> anyone?
[11:57] <daurnimator> any1?
[11:58] <ChaosFan> eric_1: you need to change the session at the gdm login screen to kde
[11:58] <ChaosFan> eric_1: you don't need to reboot, just log out of gnome
[11:58] <richard__> it is an interesting question .... can you install windows programs in wine or crossover office etc and disable there ability to communicate over the net
[11:59] <ChaosFan> richard__: you can disable wine to communicate over the net, that way nothing running in wine can
[11:59] <richard__> nice
[11:59] <eric_1> is that all ChaosFan bro?
[11:59] <ChaosFan> eric_1: should be ;)
[11:59] <eric_1> salamat
[11:59] <richard__> can you run office on wine?
[11:59] <richard__> MS
[11:59] <ChaosFan> richard__: i never tried
[12:00] <clem-vangelis> hi all
[12:00] <clem-vangelis> anybody know what is the best neogeo emulator ? gngeo or xmame ?
[12:00] <eric_1> ChaosFan, for example, i am running Compiz+XGL on Gnome, if i installed the KDE, will the Compiz+XGL automatically run?
[12:00] <eric_1> ;)
[12:01] <daurnimator> gngeo is nice
[12:01] <daurnimator> now... can any1 solve my problem?
[12:02] <daurnimator> and, i know that name from somewhere... (clem-vangelis)
[12:02] <clem-vangelis> daurminator from archopen ?
[12:02] <ChaosFan> eric_1: dunno, i've got nothing to do with compiz/xgl, but there's #ubuntu-xgl for this
[12:02] <daurnimator> yeah
[12:02] <daurnimator> that'll be it
[12:02] <clem-vangelis> kk :D
[12:03] <don> hello
[12:03] <eric_1> oh thanks ChaosFan, i dont knw there's also a Channel for that stuff. thanks
[12:03] <eric_1> ;)
[12:04] <|thunder> Edgy Eft, Knot 2,  this is not edgy final is it ?
[12:04] <don> i need help for my displaye settings. I can't set the refresh rate more than 60Hz
[12:04] <don> I have REadeon 9550
[12:04] <TEN> There's a flaw in module dvb-ttpci: in dmesg it claims not to find dvb-ttpci-01.fw in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware (where it is on Debian), but in Xubuntu 6.06.1 at least, it actually tries to load from /lib/firmware/2* (2* = kernel version). I'm new to this flavor of Linux, so no idea where to submit the error... maybe someone can pick this up to end one bit of confusion ;-)
[12:04] <eric_1> ChaosFan bro, i set the gdm as default on my kde installation.. how can i change the default to kdm??
[12:05] <ChaosFan> eric_1: you need to have kdm installed and sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm or sudo dkpg-reconfigure kdm, thats your choice
[12:05] <eric_1> thats the command to set the default, whether its gdm or kdm??
[12:06] <clem-vangelis> strange 'cause i have a 9550 and no problem with that
[12:06] <clem-vangelis> install fglrx drivers
[12:06] <don> i did that
[12:06] <AsadR> why does it keep trying to install postfix when i install mutt or mailx ?
[12:06] <ChaosFan> eric_1: gdm and kdm are both display managers. which one you reconfigure is a matter of taste, but it will give you the opportunity to choose the default one when multiple display managers are installed
[12:07] <eric_1> ok. ;) thanks
[12:07] <eric_1> be right back, i'll try to run the kde
[12:07] <eric_1> :)
[12:08] <clem-vangelis> you try to edit xorg.conf ?
[12:08] <AsadR> Anyone know why postfix is a dependancy for mutt and mailx???
[12:08] <don> ok i'll do that thanks
[12:08] <santa99> n #amarok
[12:09] <selinuxium> hi all, i have a folder with 33533 fonts in it. Is there a decent font viewer I can use to browse it?
[12:09] <lesshaste> I am mystified by copy and paste :) When I select something from acroread I can paste it to the command line using the middle button but when I paste to emacs in the same way I get completely different text...
[12:09] <lesshaste> any ideas what is going on?
[12:12] <don> videocard bus identifier ????
[12:12] <don> PCI:1:0:0
[12:12] <don> is this right
[12:13] <Morrowyn> yup
[12:13] <don> mine is on AGP
[12:13] <Morrowyn> you can do :  scanpci i think
[12:13] <Morrowyn> which will give you the id in hex
[12:13] <Morrowyn> but pci:1:0:0 is the main bus
[12:13] <Raskall> xubuntu is damn good for my laptop.
[12:13] <Morrowyn> for either pcie oragp
[12:13] <don> ok
[12:15] <Raskall> :) and the xfce-custom in xubuntu is excellent. wouldn't have known it was xfce if I didn't know. :)
[12:15] <richard__> how do i sudo delete a folder in opt
[12:16] <Raskall> I doubt I'll ever go back to gnome no matter how powerful my pc is
[12:16] <American-Tech> How to I get 3d acceleration for ati card
[12:16] <don> should i "Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "
[12:16] <|thunder> why, whats wrong with gnome ? suits me
[12:17] <don> on "Configuring xserver-xorg"
[12:17] <kingdong> nothings wrong with it but people have preferences
[12:18] <kingdong> some people think any gui at all is superfluous, hehe
[12:18] <lierre> hi all
[12:18] <kaspar> eng or de channel?
[12:18] <|thunder>  eng
[12:18] <lierre> i've a ubuntu installed on a macbook
[12:18] <clem-vangelis> what is your card american-tech ?
[12:18] <clem-vangelis> video card
[12:18] <lierre> but the wifi doesn't works
[12:19] <lierre> i've installed the network manager but it doesn't show any wifi option
[12:19] <lierre> could anyone tell me why?
[12:19] <American-Tech> ati all wonder 9700
[12:19] <kaspar> how to install something im all new to linux and im used to setup files
[12:19] <clem-vangelis> so u have to use fglrx i think no ?
[12:20] <Ramunas> kaspar: you're on ubuntu right?
[12:20] <kaspar> i donwnloaded a flashplayer update for mozilla
[12:20] <kaspar> yes
[12:20] <kaspar> and now how to install it
[12:20] <Ramunas> kaspar: Applications>add/remove apps
[12:21] <ompaul> !flash > kaspar
[12:22] <ompaul> kaspar, have a look at the document the bot sent you
[12:22] <lierre> can someone help me out with the wifi? :'(
[12:22] <kaspar> thx
[12:22] <kaspar> how is the command in the editor to install
[12:23] <holycow_> kaspar, please don't download things like you do in windows
[12:23] <holycow_> not for start
[12:23] <holycow_> kaspar, you want to start off using the repositories first
[12:23] <holycow_> let ubuntu manage all your software for your
[12:23] <kaspar> what are the repositories?#
[12:24] <holycow_> later you can learn the difference between different package types and what your options are
[12:24] <holycow_> !repositories
[12:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:24] <trapdoor> kaspar: read the wiki
[12:24] <holycow_> kaspar, i suppose the first thing that newbs should know is that everything you learned on windows is wrong
[12:25] <kaspar> :P
[12:26] <pingu> holycow_: that was a really silly statement :(
[12:26] <holycow_> not at all
[12:26] <holycow_> its simply true
[12:27] <eric_1> theres no one answering my query on ubuntu-xgl :9
[12:27] <eric_1> :(
[12:27] <Ramunas> how do I make mplayer my default video player instead of totem?
[12:27] <holycow_> eric_1, xgl is not officially supported, expect latent responses to that topic
[12:27] <seraphim> Ramunas: you have to set it for every filetype
[12:27] <holycow_> xgl is also very alpha/beta software, its hard to support something in flux
[12:27] <seraphim> Ramunas: right-klick a file, properties, open with
[12:28] <compengi> Lathiat are you familiar with shell-server?
[12:28] <American-Tech> ati 9700 card how to i install 3d acceleration?
[12:29] <seraphim> !ati
[12:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:30] <Huh1> hey. how comes ubuntu won't execute commands that I put in /etc/cron.hourly/ (or cron.daily, doesn't matter)?
[12:31] <mart> anyone able to help with an API mismatch error that stops xserver working?
[12:32] <mart> this is after installing the new nvidia drivers
[12:32] <narasim_7> is there a way in synaptic by which I can hide older versions from being displayed?
[12:32] <holycow_> mart, did you use the nvidia installer or you got them from some repo?
[12:32] <holycow_> sounds like you are talking about edgy?
[12:32] <mart> i used the download from nvidia.com
[12:32] <mart> i --purged the nvida-glx
[12:33] <mart> then installed the drivers
[12:33] <narasim_7> holycow:is there a way in synaptic by which I can hide older versions from being displayed?
[12:33] <holycow_> mart, yeah we can't really help with nvidia installer
[12:33] <mart> there was a few errors about not having xorg-dev
[12:33] <narasim_7> holycow_: is there a way in synaptic by which I can hide older versions from being displayed?
[12:33] <mart> bugger
[12:33] <mart> the installer actually works fine now
[12:33] <holycow_> their installer bypasses the system and its hard to really have a clue what latest thing they did, i would wait for official repo appearence of said driver
[12:33] <Huh1> Can anyone help me? Commands that I put in /etc/cron.daily (or hourly) just won't be executed!
[12:34] <mart> right
[12:34] <DJAdmiral> hello people!
[12:34] <mart> so is the nvidia-glx just the latest drive stored in the repo?
[12:34] <lierre> is there someone who knows about network manager?
[12:34] <|thunder> somegeek, has edgy hit final or not ?
[12:34] <|thunder> erie, *so* i meant
[12:34] <holycow_> narasim_7, older versions of what? synaptic only shows latest versions.  there are no dupes as far as i know
[12:34] <|thunder> damn it, auto complete is a nusince
[12:35] <holycow_> mart, by latest, the latest at the time of release yes.  it may not be the latest currently available
[12:35] <compengi> lierre if you need help in networking issue join ##network
[12:35] <mart> understood
[12:35] <lierre> ok thx compengi
[12:35] <mart> one last thing
[12:35] <compengi> sorry ##networking
[12:35] <DJAdmiral> |thunder: edgy eft releases in either December or January next year
[12:36] <stev> Hey
[12:36] <holycow_> mart, generally the advice to users is to just kinda hang in there for a bit.  the releases are 6 months apart, wanting to live on the bleeding edge mostly complicates your life so ... if anyone feels the urge just note to expect th eunexpected from things not properly tested
[12:36] <DJAdmiral> hey stev
[12:36] <|thunder> ahh, sweet, thanks, Im egar to get new kernel and gnome
[12:36] <lierre> ah yes i think so too
[12:36] <compengi> lierre join ##networking not network :D
[12:36] <xChatbeRRy> g'day
[12:36] <lierre> thx compengi
[12:36] <mart> ahh no, im not too bothered about having the best, im having stuttery graphics on some games
[12:36] <compengi> np lierre
[12:36] <mart> so thought id update
[12:36] <mart> no worries though
[12:37] <DJAdmiral> |thunder: Unless you really know how to fix your computer in any situation and as long as you also know what you're really doing and what's happening, stick with a stable Dapper release
[12:37] <mart> thanks for the info
[12:37] <holycow_> mart, no worries, just some friendly advice from those that have been around the block
[12:37] <holycow_> mart, chances are if you are having stuttering graphics there might be other issues ...
[12:38] <mart> i knew i shouldnt have tried, last time i tried installing ubunto i had this teouble :P
[12:38] <mart> yay... more issues!
[12:38] <mart> im so lucky :)
[12:38] <holycow_> typically whatever drivers are available currently, if they are for nvidia you won't gain a whole lot with a small incrremental upgrade
[12:38] <holycow_> if your having problems usually its an ingame setting or some hardware issue not accounted for (not enough ram perhaps, etc)
[12:39] <holycow_> mart, why are you so worried about latest drivers on ubuntu?
[12:39] <DJAdmiral> mart: best thing you can do with graphics at the mo is just upgrade ram and video card. And make sure you can find a good stable linux driver for X or at least an open source driver
[12:39] <holycow_> only spazes on windows worry about the latest increment ... and they never actually get the performance boost they claim
[12:39] <mart> i do, 1gig ram and a 7800gt
[12:39] <holycow_> cool
[12:39] <DJAdmiral> mart: how much vram does that have then?
[12:39] <holycow_> so why worry about it on linux? where are you running into a prob?
[12:39] <mart> vram...
[12:39] <AsadR> is there any command line utility that puts stdin into gnome's clipboard as text?
[12:40] <mart> where would i find that?
[12:40] <DJAdmiral> mart: Video RAM
[12:40] <mart> ah
[12:40] <holycow_> how much memory does your video card have
[12:40] <mart> my bad :P
[12:40] <mart> 256
[12:40] <DJAdmiral> mart: 256megs, good number
[12:40] <holycow_> that should be fine
[12:40] <mart> i built the pc, its a decent spec
[12:40] <DJAdmiral> mart: in this case you need to modify your xorg.conf file maybe
[12:40] <mart> right
[12:41] <holycow_> DJAdmiral, heh, good call
[12:41] <mart> know a decent site with what an xorg.config is?
[12:41] <mart> lol
[12:41] <holycow_> he may not have enabled the drivers in xorg
[12:41] <holycow_> infact
[12:41] <mart> i enabled them there i think
[12:41] <DJAdmiral> mart: or you can use VMWare Server or QEMU+KQEMU and run windoze in a virtual PC
[12:41] <holycow_> i bet something got hosed when the nvidia installer replaced his xorg
[12:41] <mart> thats what i though
[12:42] <mart> is it possible to download the standard xorg file?
[12:42] <DJAdmiral> mart: and play whatever games you want via there. or go with *shudder* DUAL BOOT!
[12:42] <mart> dual booting now :P
[12:42] <mart> ive only had ubuntu for a day.... :P
[12:42] <DJAdmiral> mart: if there was a 'standard' xorg.conf file you're toast
[12:42] <DJAdmiral> mart: no computer would work lol
[12:42] <mart> yay
[12:42] <mart> fair enough
[12:42] <Knelix> Does anyone know the difference between SDL and SVGA versions of xmame?
[12:43] <holycow_> mart, kindly allow me to give you the first tutorial all windows users should get when trying out a real os
[12:43] <DJAdmiral> mart: care to pastebinify your xorg.conf file?
[12:43] <holycow_> forget everyting you learned on windows.  it's wrong.
[12:43] <holycow_> :)
[12:43] <mart> sure
[12:43] <eric_1> question from a newbie: how to install theme on kde??
[12:43] <calistos_28> hi!. I've installed Google Earth through automatix. However when I launch the program, Google Earth only shows the splash screen and then closes. Any idea about how to use Google Earth on Ubuntu 6.06?
[12:43] <Rookie-> how did ppl learn about windows?
[12:43] <grigora> how do I install GNOME on my laptop? one of my machines automatically goes into X and asks for a username password, but this other one just takes you to the command prompt. Thanks
[12:44] <eric_1> i find tutorials stating kdm folder but i cant find it
[12:44] <mart> okey, how do i paste without spamming everyone?
[12:44] <DJAdmiral> Knelix: AFAIK SDL version is based on the SDL drivers, and SVGA is to be used if SDL doesn't work, in which case a slightly modified xorg.conf file should help you out. use SDL first
[12:44] <holycow_> Rookie-, most people learned it by smacking their heads against the walls
[12:44] <DJAdmiral> mart: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:44] <compengi> Rookie- you don't need to learn windows, dum people can know how to work on it
[12:44] <holycow_> you kinda forget that after you build up a nice forehead calous
[12:44] <Knelix> SDL first. Okay, thanks, DJAdmiral.
[12:44] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: You've doomed your PC.
[12:44] <holycow_> compengi, thats actually not true.  its hard to believe but if you use linux exclusively for a LONG time, going back to windows is HARD
[12:44] <DJAdmiral> Knelix: no porblem
[12:45] <compengi> Rookie- you only need to know how to use mouse for clicking next next and finish
[12:45] <Knelix> ;)
[12:45] <rorian> Gotta feel sorry for people using Windows.. They get virii and trojans while we get Compiz and Xgl
[12:45] <DJAdmiral> Knelix: problem*
[12:45] <grigora> anyone knows to start using Gnome? which modules to install
[12:45] <eric_1> ChaosFan, how can i install kde themes???
[12:45] <DJAdmiral> rorian: damn straight :P
[12:45] <mart> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22421
[12:45] <calistos_28> DJAdmiral: seriously, do you know what's going on? will i need to reinstall Google Earth or Ubuntu can't handle it?
[12:45] <holycow_> windows ui after a while just makes no sense, its all hocus pocus ... there is no seeming logic or rhyme to it
[12:46] <ChaosFan> eric_1: doesn't know about kde/kdm
[12:46] <grigora> why won't my X start automatically after the upgrade? any ideas?
[12:46] <holycow_> thats not to say its bad, its just to say you haveto learn and understand it first before you can really kinda get going in it
[12:46] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: Installing software through Automatix is considered suicide
[12:46] <eric_1> ok chaos thanks anyways
[12:46] <eric_1> ;)
[12:46] <mart> get my paste?
[12:46] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: What you should have done is downloaded and installed Google Earth from Google's website itself
[12:46] <calistos_28> DJAdmiral: actually a lot of people recommended me this way of installation
[12:46] <DJAdmiral> mart: link please
[12:46] <mart> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22421
[12:46] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: they were wrong.
[12:46] <holycow_> grigora, lots of reasons.  misconfiguration, driver issue, software issue ... do you know what xorg error you get?
[12:47] <selinuxium> #gnewsense
[12:47] <holycow_> calistos_28, what do you mean reinstall? where did you install it from?
[12:47] <calistos_28> DJAdmiral: oks, it seems that maybe you have reason
[12:47] <calistos_28> Automatix sometimes fails
[12:47] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: he did it through Automatix
[12:47] <holycow_> calistos_28, you do know you can just download the binary tar.gz file from google and extract it, and double click an drun it from the dir right?
[12:47] <holycow_> no installation necessary
[12:47] <holycow_> oh god
[12:47] <holycow_> calistos_28, reformat your hd and start with a clean system
[12:47] <holycow_> :)
[12:47] <holycow_> !automatix
[12:47] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[12:48] <DJAdmiral> mart: I'll take a look at your file now
[12:48] <calistos_28> holycow_: OMG
[12:48] <holycow_> automatix is designed by someone that doesn't have a clue unfortunately.
[12:48] <mart> many thanks
[12:48] <calistos_28> I'll try to install it manually
[12:48] <mart> easyubuntu was better
[12:48] <calistos_28> thank you guys!!
[12:48] <holycow_> calistos_28, ubuntu installs are super easy, reinstallation will make sure you have a clean system
[12:48] <holycow_> and stay away from automatix pls :)
[12:49] <DJAdmiral> mart: hmm, I think I see something you can work with.
[12:50] <DJAdmiral> mart: line 114? Driver "nvidia"?
[12:50] <KomiaPoika> hi
[12:50] <holycow_> DJAdmiral, i think you got it
[12:50] <holycow_> :) nice catch
[12:50] <calistos_28> holycow_: if i uninstall Google Earth, it'd be the same as if I had a clean system or I'll have some uninstalled libraries floating around the system?
[12:50] <KomiaPoika> i'm installing kubuntu on my laptop, anyone minds to babysit me a little?
[12:50] <mart> yes
[12:50] <holycow_> calistos_28, not at all
[12:50] <mart> i read a walkthough that told me to add that
[12:50] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: Thanks. I've only created my own linux distro and worked with linux for a year and i know more about it than windoze now :-P
[12:50] <KomiaPoika> when partitioning the hard disk manually, what am i supposed to enter in "label" fields? mount points?
[12:51] <holycow_> automatix does god knows what, its created by someone that doesn't have remotely a clue.  it could have made total changes to your system that you don't know about
[12:51] <holycow_> :/
[12:51] <mart> what would normally be there?
[12:51] <mart> just "nv"
[12:51] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: plus it messes up your sources.list file. It means bad juju!
[12:51] <mart> ?
[12:51] <holycow_> mart, correct
[12:51] <mart> ah
[12:51] <calistos_28> holycow_: it seems pretty dangerous
[12:51] <holycow_> mart, otherwise your NOT using 3d acceleration
[12:51] <holycow_> only shitty 2d acceleration
[12:51] <mart> i think that sounds right
[12:51] <holycow_> thats why your getting lag
[12:51] <schlumpf> the macromedia flashplayer insatller cant install on a 64Bit... what to do?
[12:52] <DJAdmiral> mart: or you could also try "vesa" if that doesn't work.
[12:52] <calistos_28> DJAdmiral: the source.lists file is not a problem since it only holds 4 respositories
[12:52] <DJAdmiral> schumplf: search the wiki?
[12:52] <mart> i will try both of those
[12:52] <mart> back soon...
[12:52] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: but it changes the URLS of those repos like nutsy
[12:52] <holycow_> calistos_28, i wouldn't say they strike me as malicious but automatix simply does the worst things like completely bypass your packaging system
[12:52] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: more like nazi than nutsy
[12:52] <holycow_> had they done what easyubuntu did, i wouldn't really mention reinstalling
[12:53] <holycow_> schlumpf, there is no 64 bit flash
[12:53] <holycow_> for any platform, even windows
[12:53] <DJAdmiral> KomiaPoika: maybe someone over at #kubuntu could help you out?
[12:53] <calistos_28> thank you for the info ;)
[12:53] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: anytime.
[12:53] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: If i'm not here then at least 800 other people are.
[12:55] <holycow_> heh
[12:55] <KomiaPoika> ok
[12:55] <holycow_> calistos_28, no biggie.  only meant as a friendly suggestion. :)
[12:55] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: so how long has it been since you've been unplugged?
[12:55] <holycow_> at least 3 years
[12:56] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: whoa. i've been only at it for a little over a year.
[12:56] <holycow_> i have used flash about 3 times or so in that time but thats it
[12:56] <holycow_> i've used linux for a lot longer
[12:56] <holycow_> but i went cold turkey more than 3 years ago... don't remember exact amount of time
[12:56] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: have you ever created your own distro?
[12:56] <holycow_> everything runs on linux, i make sacrifices where i haveto
[12:57] <calistos_28> DJAdmiral: do you know how can i find the googleearth package in synaptic? I try to look for 'google', 'earth', 'googleearth' and nothing happens. Is that the result of what you were telling me about the bypass of synaptics?
[12:57] <holycow_> DJAdmiral, no need to, i'm a debian guy and thats been pretty much 'roll your own distro' by definition
[12:57] <kairu0> anyone recommend an openoffice base replaced (that is web based)?
[12:57] <holycow_> then ubuntu came along and did all the work for me
[12:57] <holycow_> DJAdmiral, i'm impressed you did your own, i wen part way through the linux from scratch stuff
[12:57] <DJAdmiral> kairu0: google is putting up this web office thingy.
[12:57] <holycow_> i still intend on doing it
[12:57] <holycow_> kairu0, google is your closest bet indeed
[12:57] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: you won't find it in the repos
[12:58] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: you will need to get it from google earth's website itself
[12:58] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: Either the beta or the stable will have a linux version
[12:59] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: Thank you! :-D all Aamix can do at the moment though is just extract tarballs, bzip2 and gzip archives, and compile C and C++ code. Maybe one day I'll continue work on it. Maybe one day it'll have X
[12:59] <kairu0> DJAdmiral, this is sensitive info, so i want to keep it all on a lan segment
[12:59] <holycow_> calistos_28, you should be able to just dl it from google
[01:00] <holycow_> extract it, make sure the binary can be executable (right click/properties/permissions tab)
[01:00] <holycow_> and double click on the binary to run
[01:00] <DJAdmiral> kairu0: Your best bet is *shudder* micro$oft office live. you gotta pay for it though AND you need to have windoze ... -.-
[01:00] <calistos_28> holycow_ & DJAdmiral: thx I'll download it from google's site and install it on my own
[01:00] <holycow_> DJAdmiral, lets stick to things that DON'T use active x :)
[01:01] <DJAdmiral> kairu0: or you can blowfish encrypt your data.
[01:01] <DJAdmiral> kairu0: nobody till date has broken a secure 128 bit blowfish encryption
[01:01] <holycow_> calistos_28, you won't really be installing it, just extracting it.  you can put it wherever you want afterwards and just create a link to the binary exectuable
[01:01] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: hey he wanted something along those lines lol
[01:01] <DJAdmiral> calistos_28: there's no worry. the installer is pretty easy.
[01:02] <holycow_> he said oo, not mso :) *cough* potato potato
[01:02] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: potato potato? lol
[01:02] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: oooooh that song
[01:02] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: i say potato you say potato i say tomato you say tomato potato potato tomato tomato let's just get along.
[01:03] <holycow_> thar ya go
[01:03] <holycow_> >_>
[01:03] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: try saying that fast 439702749 times in a row
[01:03] <exs> Can I install knot 2 on my ubuntu dapper 6.06?.. Like nativly running it in a window, like vmware but for linux?
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> exs, look at qmu
[01:04] <DJAdmiral> holycow_: lol, my mom caught me singing that song super fast and wondered if I was drunk xD
[01:04] <DJAdmiral> what exactly is knot 2?
[01:04] <holycow_> heh
[01:04] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: its second alpha of Edgy (like Dapper's Flights)
[01:04] <Xappe> exs, you can run it in vmware for linux
[01:04] <exs> Kamping_Kaiser:  you mean qemu?
[01:05] <DJAdmiral> Flannel: thanks
[01:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> exs, yes
[01:05] <exs> Xappe:  is it easy to use in vmware?
[01:09] <DJAdmiral> meh. Once my math and lit exams are over I'm off to make Aamix boot up without using a virtual kernel filesystem :P
[01:09] <Xappe> exs: the only experience of vmware I have is installing windows with vmware player (and images prepared with qemu)
[01:09] <exs> Xappe:  yeah me too
[01:10] <Xappe> but running edgy should not be any different
[01:10] <Xappe> I guess
[01:11] <calistos_28> If i want to be able to see hidden folders such as .aMule or .googleEarth, what do I have to do?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> calistos_28: ctrl+h or in view
[01:12] <Xappe> or ls -a
[01:12] <vbhanu> I have mounted my ipod with async,nodev,nosuid,user,rw,noauto as options, when i open it with amarok i get access denied, please tell me where i could be wrong
[01:13] <calistos_28> gnomefreak: thx!!
[01:13] <gnomefreak> calistos_28: yw
[01:13] <vbhanu> in fact ls -l on /mnt/ipod shows that group and others have just r permission, not even x!
[01:13] <jak> Hi. Is there a site like apt-get.org that will search for a package in other ubuntu repositories?
[01:14] <Rookie-> test it jak
[01:14] <holycow_> jak, no there isn't
[01:14] <gnomefreak> jak: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:14] <holycow_> jak, and there never will be
[01:14] <holycow_> jak, but you can expect for more and more software companies to offer ubuntu / debian debs on their sites
[01:14] <holycow_> brother offers deb drivers, opera deb installer, etc.
[01:15] <holycow_> as with all software downloaded off the net, you should understand your trust relationship with the vendor
[01:15] <gnomefreak> jak: also most of the time if you put the repo in address bar it will show you whats in it
[01:16] <holycow_> the repos are easy to trust, they are vetted by the whole community, but independendent vendors ... thats a whole other ball of waxs
[01:16] <holycow_> wax even
[01:16] <Rookie-> its not good if one dist will be favorised by the company's ...
[01:16] <jak> yeah
[01:16] <holycow_> distros at this point in time are irrelevant
[01:16] <Rookie-> ohh? how so ?
[01:16] <holycow_> as far as vendors are concerned, packaging for all distros is super easy
[01:16] <jak> Is it a bad idea to include debian unstable packages in /etc/apt/sources.list on an ubuntu distro?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> Rookie-: too many distros for comapnies to keep up with thats why most packages are in tarballs
[01:17] <bbrazil> jak: yes
[01:17] <holycow_> distros only matter to their users, packaging is is so easy that its not an issue beyond the vendor just being too lazy
[01:17] <Rookie-> hehe, try to find the same package for slackware for one example ;)
[01:17] <holycow_> no one uses slack >_>
[01:17] <holycow_> hehe
[01:17] <Rookie-> rofl
[01:17] <holycow_> j/k!
[01:17] <Rookie-> i do
[01:17] <Rookie-> waiting for 11 now .... rc3 out now for 3 weeks
[01:18] <holycow_> Rookie-, just because a package doesn't exist doesn't mean it can't be done
[01:18] <Rookie-> right, thats what i mean ....
[01:18] <gnomefreak> holycow_: its a big deal to package for different distros that means building this build that build this again and so on
[01:18] <holycow_> not really, most apps can be NICELY writtent in cross platform ways that don't require that
[01:18] <gnomefreak> its alot of man hours along with everything else
[01:19] <gnomefreak> hence tarballs
[01:19] <holycow_> there are some categories that might require dealing with spaghetti apis but mostly i think it can be done
[01:19] <Rookie-> thats why sourceforge can exist ;)
[01:19] <holycow_> gnomefreak, its only a lot of man hours if one builds for the complexity i think
[01:20] <holycow_> or your app has some requirements that put you in that position
[01:20] <Mouldy> hey all, rhythmbox just crashed, now when i try to run it just crashes. Terminal says "..Unable to start mDNS browsing...Total Unfree 0 bytes cnt 0 [(nil),0] ...Segmentation fault. Anybody have any ideas what's up with it?
[01:21] !lilo:*! website change.... 'growth.shtml' moved to 'history.shtml' and retitled "History and Growth"; tweaked a bit for accuracy and a tiny bit of detail added
[01:21] <holycow_> Mouldy, try logging out and logging back in, check for runaways rhythmbox processes, worst case scenario delete the .rhythmbox settings file and restart
[01:21] <holycow_> couple of ideas
[01:21] <gnomefreak> holycow_: if building apps for debian and rh werent that hard they would do .debs and .rpms from most companies instead of tarballing most apps (they would also have 64 bit apps
[01:21] <Mouldy> holycow_, thanks, I've tried killing all r-box processes, I'll try logging out & back in now, brb
[01:21] <holycow_> gnomefreak, lots of companies do
[01:22] <holycow_> mostly its just lazyness
[01:22] <holycow_> marketing departments look at rh and novel and go *ping* okay thats what we are targeting, they can talk to devs through channels they understand at those companies
[01:22] <holycow_> you can't do that with slack, gentoo or debian
[01:22] <gnomefreak> holycow_: not really or there would be apps like flash for 64bit and ppc
[01:22] <Mouldy> holycow_, no luck rebooting, guess I have to delete .rhythmbox then. Where is it?
[01:23] <holycow_> software development is not always about purely technical issues ... there is a whole lot of politicing as well
[01:23] <holycow_> gnomefreak, flash is a bad example
[01:23] <holycow_> flash spans A LOT OF SUBSYSTEMS
[01:23] <holycow_> it has to talk to a whole bunch of crap, it has some very specific requirements, particularly with choosing what apis to support
[01:23] <holycow_> that will be a pretty good example of an app that requires a lot of work
[01:23] <gnomefreak> flash is a good example since its one of the most desired app for 64 and ppc
[01:23] <holycow_> most apps arent' like that
[01:24] <holycow_> take a look at google earth
[01:24] <holycow_> download tarball, extract, run
[01:24] <holycow_> or picassa
[01:24] <gnomefreak> google earth is nothing (code wise)
[01:24] <holycow_> or any number of thousands of apps already available
[01:24] <holycow_> no flash is not a good example
[01:24] <holycow_> most apps can be coded ina cross platform way so that you don't really haveto do that much work
[01:24] <gnomefreak> holycow_: point its a tarball not a deb or rpm
[01:25] <gnomefreak> anyone can build a tarball
[01:25] <holycow_> flash falls into the category of apps that has the technical requirements that forces it to be a lot of work
[01:25] <holycow_> gnomefreak, no point is rpm or deb is super easy to determine
[01:25] <holycow_> tar is retarded
[01:25] <jak> Is it OK to mix edgy packages with dapper?
[01:25] <holycow_> jak, basically no
[01:25] <neutrinomass> what commandline option do I have to pass to the kernel to stop it from actually halting the machine (i.e.  to stop at the "System Halted" message )
[01:25] <gnomefreak> as long as the tar has the config script or run script for differrent types of platforms it can be installed on those
[01:26] <neutrinomass> jak: Generally, no.
[01:26] <holycow_> jak, you can get away with things that have no requirements for large dependency pullins
[01:26] <gnomefreak> jak: no
[01:26] <holycow_> gnomefreak, thats wrong
[01:26] <gnomefreak> jak: worst idea you can have
[01:26] <holycow_> gnomefreak, anything that bypasses the distro packagae manger is wrong
[01:26] !lilo:*! (miscellaneous wording changes completed)
[01:26] <holycow_> packaging is super easy
[01:26] <holycow_> creating applications is the hard part
[01:26] <holycow_> make the app cross platform at the beginning, packagins is a trivial issue
[01:26] <gnomefreak> holycow_: create comes before packaging
[01:27] <jak> ok. So is edgy basically equivalent to debian unstable then in terms of guarantees
[01:27] <ompaul> holycow_, there are times when it needs to be done
[01:27] <holycow_> screw up the app by making it dependent on some specific architecture that makes it non portagble, and once again packaging is a non issue
[01:27] <jak> I mean does edgy basically work, but no guarantees
[01:27] <Flannel> jak: no.  Edgy is alpha right now.  Once it's released, it will be fully supported, etc
[01:27] <neutrinomass> jak: Edgy has no guarantees so I imagine it's something like experimental ;)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> holycow_: still have to build it more than once = lots of man hours
[01:27] <holycow_> ompaul, yep agreeed
[01:27] <gnomefreak> jak: no worse
[01:27] <jak> I see, thanks
[01:27] <Mouldy> holycow_, where is this .rhythmbox file you were talking about? I can't find it anywhere.
[01:27] <neutrinomass> jak: It doesn't *always* work. Stuff breaks. Less stuff breaks during the end of the development cycle though ....
[01:27] <holycow_> gnomefreak, you don't haveto build anything, automate it.  why are you doing it manually?
[01:28] <holycow_> Mouldy, in your home dir
[01:28] <gnomefreak> jak: basiclly works atm for some people may not work tomorrow
[01:28] <joachim-n> I though file roller suported 7zip files? it says 'Archive type not supported'
[01:28] <Mouldy> holycow_, it's not :\
[01:28] <neutrinomass> !7zip
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 7zip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <gnomefreak> holycow_: not everyone uses automated packaging
[01:28] <ompaul> am I in ubuntu+1 ?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> no
[01:28] <holycow_> joachim-n, apt-cache search 7zip
[01:28] <neutrinomass> joachim-n: it does - there's some other package you have to install though
[01:29] <gnomefreak> ompaul: one over to the right
[01:29] <joachim-n> so it doesn't support it out of the box?
[01:29] <hightowe1> I'm encountering massive messages like GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
[01:29] <hightowe1> Any hints?
[01:29] <neutrinomass> joachim-n: Legal issues probably?
[01:29] <holycow_> gnomefreak, oh absolutely, i agree tar and a shell installer is a universal hack
[01:29] <joachim-n> crap. I just made a change in the manual to say it does
[01:29] <neutrinomass> hightowe1: Heh :D And no gtk apps start on kubuntu, upgraded from breezy ?
[01:30] <jak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule says that edgy might be released on October 26th. historically, have these estimates been accurate?
[01:30] <ragnar> i have a problem, i boot, every thing goes normally, i sign in (username and password correct) but the screen goes blank and the sign in screen comes again.
[01:30] <ragnar> what can i do?
[01:30] <neutrinomass> jak: #ubuntu+1 is the place for edgy... and yes, give or take a day they are accurate
[01:30] <jak> neutrinomass, thanks
[01:30] <hightowe1> neutrinomass: that's a clean  6.06 kubuntu installation
[01:31] <gnomefreak> jak: most of time yes dapper was posponed 6 weeks so edgy might be (we are trying for that date and looking pretty good right now
[01:31] <neutrinomass> hightowe1: Hm... did you keep your old /home ?
[01:31] <hightowe1> neutrinomass: yes, i did
[01:31] <lerch> Hello, can someone please point me to where I can find help using mutella?
[01:31] <neutrinomass> hightowe1: Excellent. I was looking for somebody with this problem. It's a known issue, and I don't remember *exactly* the fix but I'll try my best
[01:31] <holycow_> i think the community would cut ubuntu some slack for being late :)
[01:32] <ragnar> anyone knows how i can restore gnome _
[01:32] <gnomefreak> holycow_: that would be a dream
[01:32] <holycow_> rage, what do you mean restore?
[01:32] <ragnar> i have a problem, i boot, every thing goes normally, i sign in (username and password correct) but the screen goes blank and the sign in screen comes again
[01:32] <ompaul> ragnar, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <holycow_> gnomefreak, :) thats what we get for making it easy for windows users to use linux
[01:32] <holycow_> heh
[01:32] <jak> gnomefreak, thanks
[01:32] <neutrinomass> hightowe1: Please pastebin the output of "ls -l .*"
[01:32] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:33] <ragnar> ompaul, thanks will try
[01:33] <holycow_> on the up side, you guys do a fantastic job, and i think canonical has an amazing opportunity to make money off of this thing
[01:33] <ompaul> ragnar, then in that case you have a different issue, >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop << let us know
[01:33] <lerch> Can someone help me with mutella?
[01:33] <holycow_> so keeping up the schedule reinforces the 'professionalism' impression i guess :)
[01:33] <ompaul> !repeat
[01:33] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:34] <tuxtux> ciao
[01:34] <ompaul> !it
[01:34] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:34] <lerch> !patience
[01:34] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:34] <RudyValencia> What does "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 39102336" mean? I'm installing Ubuntu 6.10 "Dapper" on an old Dell Celeron 600 and I'm getting this message.
[01:34] <hightowe1> neutrinomass: thanks for helping. can you narrow the "ls- l .*" for some directories? i've tonns of .* dirs ;)
[01:34] <lerch> Sorry.
[01:34] <cocos> hi im trying to install some things whit easyubuntu but i get the following msg "fix broken packages first" how can i find those broken packages?
[01:34] <neutrinomass> holycow_: You are free to help out as well ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[01:34] <ompaul> lerch, in the past you did not know now you do ;-)
[01:35] <tony_> nforce4 intergrated sound - crackling on mp3/ogg. Works fine under win xp. Has my soundcard been recognized incorrectly? where do i select alsa/oss?
[01:35] <lerch> It wont happen again :)
[01:35] <cocos> !broken
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <holycow_> neutrinomass, :)
[01:36] <neutrinomass> hightowe1: Ok.... I'm not sure but you probably have to delete (hint: don't delete anything, I might be wrong - just rename): a directory beginning with .gtk or some .qt-gtk-engine or something similar ...
[01:36] <hightowe1> neutrinomass: ok, trying...
[01:37] <neutrinomass> hightowe1: Don't delete, rename, and remember its previous name :P
[01:38] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: Do you know anything about this problem? It's a "no gtk apps start on kubuntu, after upgrading from breezy" (or if they keep the /home around ) .... there are tens of scattered bug reports around launchpad about this but all have been ignored
[01:38] <holycow_> cocos, open up synaptic, select custom filter on the bottom left hand side
[01:38] <ompaul> !info mutella
[01:38] <ubotu> mutella: Gnutella client with command line and http interface. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.5-5 (dapper), package size 368 kB, installed size 1304 kB
[01:39] <holycow_> should let you select 'broken' that will list broken packages
[01:39] <ompaul> lerch, do you know what universe is?
[01:39] <hightowe1> neutrinomass: problem solved! removed .gtkrc-2.0 and error is gone. THANKS!
[01:39] <cocos> holycow_: no output :(
[01:39] <neutrinomass> hightowe1: Excellent !
[01:40] <neutrinomass> hightowe1: Before you go, and you please open a bug on this ?
[01:40] <cocos> does anyone know how i can get this "Videos: Enable viewing videos embedded in webpages" whitout using easyubuntu?
[01:40] <midgetg0at> heya, anyone up yet?
[01:40] <holycow_> cocos, depends on what you want exactly
[01:40] <neutrinomass> hightowe1: "GTK+ apps don't work after upgrading from kubuntu breezy" or something like that, include the output of the gtk apps and mention how you fixed it
[01:40] <holycow_> cocos,  for google video or youtubue you just need flash
[01:41] <holycow_> cocos, for playing video you need:
[01:41] <holycow_> !restricted formats
[01:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:41] <midgetg0at> I've got some seemingly "stupid simple" issues....anyone care to give it a go?
[01:41] <cocos> holycow_: video and webcam from webpages (al already got flash)
[01:41] <ompaul> !anyone
[01:41] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:41] <holycow_> plus you need to remove totem-gstreamer, install totem-xine, then install the totem xine firefox plugin
[01:41] <midgetg0at> yes yes, you're right heh....
[01:41] <hightowe1> neutrinomass: sure, i'll do
[01:41] <neutrinomass> hightowe1: thanks a lot !
[01:41] <holycow_> cocos, for a lot of that you also need java, a lot of those webcams use java applets
[01:41] <midgetg0at> missing my "reboot" option from my shutdown menu (red button)...any idea how to get it back?
[01:42] <holycow_> java is under restricted formats i think
[01:42] <RudyValencia> What does "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 39102336" mean? I'm installing Ubuntu 6.10 "Dapper" on an old Dell Celeron 600 and I'm getting this message.
[01:42] <cocos> holycow_: outch
[01:42] <Huh1> Can anyone help me? Commands that I put in /etc/cron.daily (or hourly) just won't be executed!
[01:42] <azathoth> !java
[01:42] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:42] <neutrinomass> RudyValencia: Badly burned CD or dirty lens
[01:42] <RudyValencia> oh
[01:42] <holycow_> cocos, as for broken packages, you can try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see what errors come up and fix those and then go from there
[01:42] <holycow_> !broken
[01:42] <neutrinomass> RudyValencia: Try the "Verify CD for defects" option in the main menu ...
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <RudyValencia> ok
[01:43] <RudyValencia> let's see what's up...
[01:43] <midgetg0at> how about.....I have dualview working correctly, only now i'd like to configure an alternate xorg.conf to be used when i want the desktop to "span" the two monitors....only i cant figureout how to set it up...anyone?
[01:43] <ompaul> Huh1, first off make sure your entry is correct (has the right amount of * in the right place), next off make sure you give enough of a path in/to a script etc
[01:44] <cocos> holycow_: thanks there where no errors quess it was just easyubuntu it self because i already installed some of there apps manually :)
[01:44] <holycow_> midgetg0at, are you using an nvidia dualhead card by chance?
[01:44] <holycow_> !easyubuntu
[01:44] <midgetg0at> yes, 7900 GTX 520
[01:44] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:44] <ompaul> 9 out of 10 bots prefer to be run by smurf
[01:44] <cocos> holycow_: thanks the given links are great ill manage from here... thanks again
[01:44] <midgetg0at> i prefer automatix
[01:44] <holycow_> midgetg0at, i can send you my xorg file, i have dual monis using that nvidia dealie for doing it
[01:44] <holycow_> cocos, no worries at all
[01:44] <midgetg0at> holy, when you maximize a window....
[01:44] <holycow_> midgetg0at, please don't use automatix
[01:44] <midgetg0at> does it max to your desktop, or to your monitor?
[01:44] <midgetg0at> whats wrong w/ automatix?
[01:44] <holycow_> midgetg0at, if you are using automatix, just as a friend
[01:45] <holycow_> please REINSTALL your os
[01:45] <holycow_> automatix bypassess everything on your system and does its own thing
[01:45] <midgetg0at> nice nice
[01:45] <holycow_> you have no idea what its doing really
[01:45] <midgetg0at> easy ubuntu leaves a lot to be desired thou - skimpy selection.
[01:45] <holycow_> its just done by a clueby ... it wouldnt' be hard for him/them to do easyubuntu
[01:45] <holycow_> and make it play nice
[01:45] <neutrinomass> ompaul: Shouldn't the easyubuntu factoid be modified to say something scarier? Such as "EasyUbuntu may very well break your system and is not recommended" ?
[01:45] <holycow_> yeah ... just my opinion midgetg0at
[01:45] <ompaul> midgetg0at, work away, when it breaks take your issues to #automatix, out logs show it has broken systems on a regular basis, almost bringing the reliablity of windows to Linux
[01:46] <ompaul> neutrinomass, both of them should be avoided - use documentation
[01:46] <midgetg0at> noted.
[01:46] <holycow_> midgetg0at, what ompaul said.
[01:46] <midgetg0at> holy....about this monitor setup...
[01:46] <tuxtux_> ciao
[01:46] <holycow_> midgetg0at, you want my xorg file?
[01:46] <midgetg0at> do yoru windows max to the monitor borders or to the desktop borders (full width of combined monitors)
[01:46] <holycow_> gimme a pastebin url and i can post mine for you
[01:47] <ompaul> tuxtux_, this is an english language channel
[01:47] <ompaul> !it
[01:47] <holycow_> midgetg0at, full width across both monis ...
[01:47] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:47] <holycow_> my resolution is 3200x1200
[01:47] <midgetg0at> excellent, dats what i need....
[01:47] <midgetg0at> i've got it the otherway right now
[01:47] <holycow_> gime a pastebin url and ill post it
[01:47] <midgetg0at> which is good when not watching movies
[01:47] <midgetg0at> but really need span
[01:47] <midgetg0at> give you pastebin url? dont you have to generate that...
[01:47] <neutrinomass> what commandline option do I have to pass to the kernel to stop it from actually halting the machine (i.e.  to stop at the "System Halted" message )
[01:47] <ompaul> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:47] <holycow_> watching movies is fine with spanned desktop ... it just maximizes totem to one monitor
[01:47] <midgetg0at> oh, gotcha. heh, i dont care which you use, if thats what you're asking.
[01:48] <midgetg0at> i'm not a big pastebin'er
[01:48] <kingdong> k
[01:48] <holycow_> k sorry
[01:48] <holycow_> lol
[01:48] <midgetg0at> just tell me where to go when ya do it pls :)
[01:48] <midgetg0at> and mucho appreciated btw.
[01:48] <holycow_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22422
[01:48] <holycow_> thats mine
[01:49] <midgetg0at> excellent. Also, do you know how i can switch between these two alternate configs at will?
[01:49] <holycow_> midgetg0at, no biggie, do something about the automatix thing, i really wish we could get that thing killed
[01:49] <holycow_> causes just too many issues, lots of questions in here are as a result of automatix
[01:49] <midgetg0at> well, i'm left w/ the option of reinstalling the os again, correct?
[01:49] <midgetg0at> is one of those questions, "Where did my reboot button go?!?"
[01:50] <holycow_> midgetg0at, its easy enough, just backup /home
[01:50] <ompaul> midgetg0at, that is not an option if your in a business
[01:50] <holycow_> midgetg0at, well renaming xorg files and ctrl/aslt/backspace to restart x, or just logout and login
[01:50] <mikeconcepts> I control a windows machine from ubuntu using vncviewer from terminal, but want the ability to do full screen, not have to page up/down to see the whole remote screen
[01:51] <midgetg0at> ok, thats what i thought. isnt there some script that could be written to unload x and switch config files and then reload it?
[01:51] <holycow_> mikeconcepts, reduce the resolution of the windows machine
[01:51] <holycow_> or increasy the resolution of your host monitor
[01:51] <holycow_> remember, right click on win desktop ... properties ...etc. :)
[01:51] <mtholdenss> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249902
[01:51] <mikeconcepts> holycow: cool
[01:51] <holycow_> midgetg0at, i heard about that but never really thought about it, appologies
[01:52] <holycow_> mikeconcepts, that also goes for terminal services client
[01:52] <midgetg0at> heard about? I havent - just something i'm suggesting seems like it would be a desired option to switch between dualview, clone, span, and single
[01:52] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: no, not really.  what happens if you try starting them again?  yeah, removing .gtkrc-2.0 would likely fix it, yes.
[01:52] <mikeconcepts> holycow_: yeah, this is exactly what I need
[01:52] <mtholdenss> somebody check out this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249902
[01:52] <gansinho> hey there... did someone installed xgl over here?
[01:53] <holycow_> gansinho, i ran it for a while before it started to annoy me :)
[01:53] <holycow_> its fairly easy to install but you haveto have the right hardware ... and haveto expect it to be buggy, its very very alpha/beta software
[01:54] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: They always faill. All gtk apps... can anything be even done about this? (honestly, there are at least 10-20 open bugs about this but there has been no response to them )
[01:54] <k1piee> hey
[01:54] <midgetg0at> yea, but it's still pretty decent holy :)
[01:54] <_diz> sup
[01:54] <midgetg0at> i like the eye candy
[01:54] <midgetg0at> working well here.
[01:54] <nekoz> is anyone else having major trouble with the repositories right now ??
[01:54] <gansinho> here is working great!
[01:54] <jiphex> xgl did kinda get on my nerves
[01:54] <holycow_> neutrinomass, hiring someone to work on it would be the fastest :()
[01:54] <holycow_> :)
[01:54] <jiphex> was better after turning off the wobbly mod
[01:54] <holycow_> i have done it
[01:54] <holycow_> hehe
[01:54] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: only by getting that file to be removed on upgrade, i suspect.
[01:54] <holycow_> nekoz, they are slow yes
[01:54] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: can you subscribe me to any of those bug reports that you see, please?
[01:54] <midgetg0at> it's stuff like xgl that'll bring people to the linux desktop :)
[01:54] <neutrinomass> holyco
[01:54] <midgetg0at> dont hate
[01:55] <ompaul> midgetg0at, you could write such a beast but it means going to a terminal to change the config files - you just need both copies of xorg.conf lets call them xorg.conf.setting.one and xorg.conf.setting.two and then stick a value of one or two into a ".config-file" so it knows what it is, then it can change to the one wanted btw you then have to log out and restart X after each one
[01:55] <neutrinomass> argh
[01:55] <holycow_> nekoz, chances are people are hitting the downloads for the latest edgy release
[01:55] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: Ok, will do. There are buried but I'll try to dig a few up
[01:55] <holycow_> midgetg0at, well one of the things :)
[01:55] <nekoz> o
[01:55] <nekoz> ty
[01:56] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: cool
[01:56] <neutrinomass> holycow_: Well I guess that could be done. But I don't have the money to spare :(
[01:56] <holycow_> midgetg0at, there are a LOT of things that bring people to a platform, ubuntu made a HUUUGE step in that direction (thank you mark for spending your mmillions)
[01:56] <holycow_> :)
[01:56] <holycow_> neutrinomass, *nod* i know watcha mean bro
[01:57] <eric_1> anyone here can help me...
[01:57] <kingdong> sure we will try
[01:57] <eric_1> i installed kde trying to run xgl on it but i cant
[01:57] <eric_1> then when i tried running gnome
[01:57] <k1piee> interest
[01:57] <_diz> I'll find out
[01:57] <eric_1> the screen continuously refreshing
[01:57] <midgetg0at> alright...trying for span.....
[01:57] <holycow_> eric_1, its tricky *nod*
[01:57] <JDL01> I have a Q about ubuntu and X server
[01:57] <snoops> eric_1 which tutorial did you follow?
[01:57] <midgetg0at> aren't screens supposed to refresh? ;)
[01:58] <snoops> and what graphics card?
[01:58] <JDL01> How do I get the equivalent of runlevel 3 - i.e. no X server running?
[01:58] <devilz> is 6.06 ubuntu breezy or dapper?
[01:58] <devilz> what do i put into source-list
[01:58] <snoops> devilz dapper
[01:58] <devilz> ahh ty
[01:58] <kingdong> dapper
[01:58] <eric_1> i forgot which tutorial i used
[01:58] <eric_1> << stoopeed
[01:58] <eric_1> how can i restore my gnome??
[01:59] <JDL01> because I realise that ubunto doesn't treat run levels the same way as Fedora
[01:59] <eric_1> im currently using kubuntu
[01:59] <eric_1> :(
[01:59] <holycow_> eric_1, uninstalling the xgl stuff is a bit tricky
[01:59] <snoops> eric_1 reverse what you did in the tutorial..what graphcis card do you have?
[01:59] <eric_1> i dont want to uninstall the xgl stuff
[01:59] <jiphex> ?kubuntu
[01:59] <holycow_> it has you install modules and then install the new window manager ...
[01:59] <Justin_> Is it only me or does the XORG with Ubuntu, run out of memory every 2-3 days?
[01:59] <eric_1> i just want to use gnome instead of the kde
[02:00] <gnomefreak> eric_1: install ubuntu-desktop fpr gnome
[02:00] <gnomefreak> for
[02:00] <Justin_> eric_1, - You have a choice, install the kubuntu-desktop - or if you want to save space, install simply KDEBASE.
[02:00] <eric_1> but when i tried to use gnome, the screen keeps on bleeping (on off) continuously
[02:00] <kingdong> my uptime is 5 days and i have 761m free
[02:00] <midgetg0at> well, that didnt work
[02:00] <holycow_> eric_1, ah ... well the problem seems to be that gnome is not liking your xgl configuration
[02:00] <midgetg0at> i only have 1 monitor now....
[02:00] <eric_1> install ubuntu-desktop fpr gnome <- i'll type this??
[02:00] <Justin_> kingdong, In X?
[02:00] <kingdong> yes
[02:00] <holycow_> eric_1, sounds like you need to first remove all xgl stuff, then probably reinstall gnome
[02:00] <gnomefreak> eric_1: no
[02:00] <eric_1> holycow, im already using xgl on my ubuntu gnome
[02:00] <gnomefreak> eric_1: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   << type that
[02:00] <Justin_> I mean my total Linux uptime is like 29 days now, but - I need to restart my xserver every now and again.. it seems to really slow down after 3 days
[02:00] <eric_1> then i installed kde trying to run my xgl on it but i cant make it run
[02:00] <holycow_> eric_1, how, your gnome isn't working, right?
[02:01] <eric_1> so i decided to use gnome instead but im having problem right now
[02:01] <eric_1> :(
[02:01] <kingdong> i usually don't stay up for that long so maybe you are right
[02:01] <eric_1> yes
[02:01] <Justin_> eric_1, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:01] <devilz> btw, how can i update my kernel to 2.6.17
[02:01] <devilz> i have 2.6.15 now
[02:01] <skateman> www.kernel.org :D
[02:01] <Justin_> devilz, Simple update it in Synaptic :D
[02:01] <eric_1> ongoing
[02:01] <Justin_> You right click on your kernel, and upgrade to the new version
[02:01] <eric_1> ...
[02:01] <gnomefreak> devilz: build it yourself but expect issues
[02:01] <devilz> i wanan update it from apt-get ?
[02:01] <midgetg0at> holycow, peep this if you dont mind - i only have 1 monitor working now NOT span :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22423
[02:02] <eric_1> finished holycow
[02:02] <eric_1> do i need to log off??
[02:02] <holycow_> devilz, just wait for edgy eft to come out.  don't waste too much time compiling your own kernel unless you really really need to or really really want to :)
[02:02] <gnomefreak> devilz: cant unless you upgrade to edgy and edgy is pretty far from stable
[02:02] <holycow_> eric_1, yep
[02:02] <jiphex> what benefits are there to building the jernel yourself?
[02:02] <eric_1> wait
[02:02] <kingdong> heh heh i would use gentoo if i wanted to be rolling my own kernel all the time
[02:02] <darkschneider> hello, i can0t figure out which is xv package name for ubuntu, any clue?
[02:02] <Justin_> Yeah "issues" it's usually better to stay with the kernel that comes with your distro, if you are not familiar with compiling kernels ;)
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: How do you switch between KDE and Gnome when both are installed?
[02:02] <Justin_> And you wont notice much of a difference if any at all, from updating your kernel at the moment - I would wait for Edgy stable.
[02:02] <midgetg0at> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:03] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: login screen under sessions
[02:03] <midgetg0at> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:03] <midgetg0at> maybe..?
[02:03] <midgetg0at> heh..
[02:03] <darkschneider> naturally a source package that ubuntu coudl compile... cause of xv license :)
[02:03] <gnomefreak> midgetg0at: why make it hard just use the loginscreen
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: thanks, added to my notes..
[02:04] <midgetg0at> i'm not used to the login screen :) it's all buggy for me
[02:04] <midgetg0at> ctrl+alt+backspace likes to cause problems.
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: Oh, and good morning to you and all
[02:04] <Justin_> jiphex, You can update speed - or make a custom start up mode, or heck your own distro - but if you do not know what or how to do it - then I suggest you do not play with the kernel..
[02:04] <midgetg0at> /pm
[02:04] <midgetg0at> /im
[02:04] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:04] <midgetg0at> bah
[02:04] <gnomefreak> good morning
[02:04] <Justin_> What I find interesting is that Xubuntu seems to be the most stable version of Ubuntu :D
[02:04] <Justin_> Gotta love XFCE mouhaha.
[02:05] <mart> thanks for the help with nvidia stuff
[02:05] <mart> sorted now...
[02:05] <HeathenDan> it's so bare-bones it's gotta be stable :p
[02:05] <mart> easy fix, reistalled ubuntu
[02:05] <JDL01> Can anybody help with my problem?
[02:05] <mart> lol
[02:05] <midgetg0at> dont suggest people not play w/ the kernel - how do people learn?
[02:05] <Justin_> HeathenDan, Exactly how I like it - I used to be a Freebsd man, I like building my stuff up :P
[02:05] <Justin_> Xubuntu is the first Linux I actually like... and kept for more then 2 weeks - so thats good :)
[02:05] <midgetg0at> Holycow - still around?
[02:06] <azathoth> how do i make my gtk+ apps have the same look as my gnome apps again? i forget the package...
[02:06] <Justin_> xhaan, Haha - you must have a lot of free time on your hands :P
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> JDL01: What was the problem...  just ask
[02:06] <Justin_> But it's a great way to learn, break and figure out how to rebuild
[02:06] <ompaul> midgetg0at, if your interested in discussion please join #ubuntu-offtopic however most users here are new in some way so stability is the goal
[02:06] <MrStein> Hi! Knot 2 release is not mentioned on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing  , release mail : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-September/000185.html
[02:06] <JDL01> How do I get the equivalent of runlevel 3 - i.e. no X server running?
[02:06] <rorian> phew.. thought Compiz was crashing, but it was just that silly Shift + Backspace thing
[02:06] <JDL01> because I realise that ubunto doesn't treat run levels the same way as Fedora
[02:06] <kingdong> ubunto!
[02:06] <xhaan> Justin_, i do :0
[02:06] <ompaul> JDL01, this is debian based so there is only 1 2 6 0
[02:07] <Justin_> midgetg0at, Well people can learn - but they shoudl read first, before they start messing with the kernel - I mean just telling them commands is bad.. it will not work, and they did not learn a thing.
[02:07] <JDL01> Which one allows me to run a server without X ?
[02:07] <holycow_> midgetg0at, just ask.  lots of people in here that know more than me
[02:07] <Justin_> If you want to play with your Kernel, I suggest reading up on how to do it - get yourself familiar with it and stuff
[02:07] <falcon3> *wave*
[02:07] <ompaul> JDL01, install rcconf and turn off gdm <<-- it is not done like others -
[02:07] <MrStein> Can some core Ubuntu team person confirm, that they are aware of the missing Knot 2 information on the web page? So that I can stop bothering you all ;-)
[02:07] <midgetg0at> well....i figured you could peep my bin and contrast it to yours - something might jump out at you...
[02:07] <hannes__> hy falcon3
[02:07] <falcon3> hi hannes__
[02:07] <JDL01> oh.....just stop gdm?
[02:07] <midgetg0at> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22423 - i want my two monitors to span (keyword here) the desktop - any ideas?
[02:07] <falcon3> midgetg0at: xinerama
[02:08] <midgetg0at> w/ that xorg.conf, i only have 1 monitor
[02:08] <midgetg0at> na, i dont want or need xinerama
[02:08] <ompaul> JDL01, obviously you log of x at that point and ohh its gone :)
[02:08] <midgetg0at> well, not natively anyway
[02:08] <devilz> is it possible to update kernel from apt-get?
[02:08] <midgetg0at> nvidia does all that ish
[02:08] <JDL01> ompaul, that's exactly what I want
[02:08] <JDL01> So install rcconf?
[02:08] <midgetg0at> at least from what i've been reading
[02:08] <ompaul> JDL01, yes
[02:08] <Justin_> Well its time to go kick some ass in WOW.. :D
[02:08] <falcon3> midgetg0at: think your sources might be a bit off
[02:08] <midgetg0at> i have a xorg.conf that allows me to hvae 2 montors w/ an expanded desktop...
[02:08] <valehru> Anyone know where abouts I could get a copy of the file gdm.conf-custom?
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> devilz: update kernel or add say 686 when you are running 386?
[02:09] <midgetg0at> but i want span as an alternative option
[02:09] <JDL01> can't find it :(
[02:09] <rbrick> hi all
[02:09] <falcon3> midgetg0at: correct,
[02:09] <midgetg0at> why do you say that falcon?
[02:09] <tafelpoot> question... is there a way to have the full dapper whitout having the 256Mb ram you need for that *peeeep* live CD?
[02:09] <rbrick> this is the first time i join this channel
[02:09] <rapha> Hi all!
[02:09] <azathoth> welcome :)
[02:09] <devilz> Jack_Sparrow, update i have 2.6.5
[02:09] <falcon3> midgetg0at: you can expand your desktop without xinerama, but movies andsoforth will span over your two monitors too
[02:09] <ompaul> valehru,   /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom /home/username/gdm.conf-custom
[02:10] <snoops> tafelpoot alternate cd? (it uses a text based install, instead of live cd)
[02:10] <falcon3> midgetg0at: the only solution i know to that is xinerama
[02:10] <midgetg0at> well...i want movies to expand
[02:10] <rapha> Is it possible to build Edgy's 2.6.17 kernel (assuming it has that already) under Dapper, and what would be the preferred way of doing it? I know how to build a vanilla kernel by hand, but never did it with Debian/Ubuntu methods...
[02:10] <midgetg0at> but i dont want normal apps to, so i'm thinking i need 2 seperate setups
[02:10] <valehru> ompaul, I think I screwed up both versions. is there the defaults on the net somewhere?
[02:10] <tafelpoot> snoops: and it is not that server install?
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> And I WANT a flying car.. sorry, havent had morning coffee
[02:10] <falcon3> midgetg0at: runnign two X servers for each screen is a solution
[02:10] <snoops> tafelpoot nope, the server install is the server install :)
[02:10] <tafelpoot> snoops: I really want the full install...
[02:10] <tafelpoot> ok
[02:10] <tafelpoot> I'll take a look
[02:10] <eric_1> anyone know how to fix my gnome??
[02:11] <ompaul> rapha, for edgy materials go to #ubuntu+1 this is stable only
[02:11] <falcon3> tafelpoot: http://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[02:11] <Knelix> Can anybody help me with an xmame problem?
[02:11] <tafelpoot> falcon3: thx
[02:11] <falcon3> tafelpoot: no belet
[02:11] <falcon3> belnet*
[02:11] <eric_1> i installed kde but when i tried using gnome... after logging in, it shows the screen, then black, then shows the screen again
[02:11] <midgetg0at> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22422 <-- apparently working "span" setup posted by holycow....any ideas falcon?
[02:11] <falcon3> let me check
[02:11] <midgetg0at> ideas as far as, where/how is it diff from mine
[02:12] <rapha> ompaul: I know; I'd like to build it under Dapper... will do anyways, thx.
[02:12] <eric_1> guys... can you please help me??
[02:12] <tafelpoot> eric_1: what is wrong?
[02:12] <rapha> That depends on your prob eri
[02:12] <rapha> That depends on your prob eric_1
[02:12] <midgetg0at> (08:11:33 AM) eric_1: i installed kde but when i tried using gnome... after logging in, it shows the screen, then black, then shows the screen again
[02:12] <z3r0x> hi @ all
[02:12] <z3r0x> is it possible to boot a partition virtually?
[02:13] <ompaul> valehru, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm should help
[02:13] <holycow_> z3r0x, what do you mean virtually?
[02:13] <ompaul> z3r0x, you can use xen uml qemu or vmware
[02:13] <JDL01> ok...how do I find rcconf?
[02:13] <z3r0x> holycow_, I don't want to reboot my computer when I want to use windows
[02:14] <tafelpoot> z3r0x: try vmware
[02:14] <JDL01> Synaptic has never heard of it
[02:14] <z3r0x> tafelpoot, thx
[02:14] <holycow_> what tafelpoot said
[02:14] <ompaul> JDL01, got universe enabled?
[02:14] <Lobster> but vmware doesn't use his win-version but install a new one...
[02:14] <ompaul> !multiverse > JDL01
[02:14] <Lobster> i think he wants to boot a windows wich is allready installed...
[02:14] <ompaul> JDL01, read the message from the bot
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !rcconf
[02:15] <ubotu> rcconf: Debian Runlevel configuration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.17 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 112 kB
[02:15] <holycow_> z3r0x, if you are trying to boot an existing install, thats not possible
[02:15] <JDL01> yep - it is now
[02:15] <holycow_> you cannot 'lift' an existing install ... at least not yet
[02:15] <JDL01> this is a new installation and I forgot the Universe
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:15] <adminx> Good morning all
[02:15] <tafelpoot> holycow_: I thought there was a way... but I don't know how
[02:16] <z3r0x> holycow_, hm
[02:16] <ompaul> JDL01, enjoy
[02:16] <falcon3> midgetg0at: yes, that's a default setup
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> JDL01: You will grow to love this bot
[02:16] <midgetg0at> well, not tottaly default
[02:16] <falcon3> midgetg0at: but that will, as i said before, span
[02:16] <midgetg0at> well, then why isnt it for me?
[02:16] <midgetg0at> thats what i'm running now...or at least trying to
[02:16] <midgetg0at> but my right monitor has no signal
[02:16] <JDL01> cheers guys
[02:16] <ompaul> valehru, and now?
[02:16] <midgetg0at> does the nvidia driver span by default? is there some kinda nvidia utility i can run?
[02:17] <ompaul> !nvidia > midgetg0at
[02:17] <falcon3> midgetg0at: http://sial.org/pbot/19439
[02:17] <midgetg0at> drivers are installed.
[02:17] <midgetg0at> as i said, i ahve "expanded" desktop workign fine
[02:17] <midgetg0at> but not span
[02:17] <valehru> ompaul, just trying it out now.
[02:17] <holycow_> tafelpoot, there is no way to mount an existing install into a virtual machine outside of the theortical vm viruses created by ms
[02:18] <holycow_> someone may actually make it so eventually tho
[02:18] <midgetg0at> but yea, i'll fuss w/ it
[02:18] <midgetg0at> thanks guys.
[02:18] <looktj> I need help with the file browser
[02:19] <looktj> what command do I type to tempolarily make the file browser for root
[02:19] <holycow_> sudo nautilus
[02:19] <looktj> ok thanks
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[02:19] <ompaul> looktj, you really don't want to do that, and use gksudo nautilus
[02:19] <holycow_> or i think gksudo nautilus
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo nautilus
[02:19] <Healot> gksudo is preferable for graphical application
[02:19] <looktj> ok thanks
[02:19] <azathoth> why?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> safer
[02:20] <azathoth> i didn't think there was much difference between the two... except a popup window...
[02:20] <looktj> im just doing so i don't have to rm blah blah
[02:21] <ompaul> looktj, BE careful delete the wrong stuff in there and you will be reinstalling
[02:22] <looktj> i have a lamp server lol
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> I made a shortcut on my bar to gksudo nautilus and I changed the icon to a puffer fish indicating be careful....
[02:22] <xhaan> lol
[02:23] <looktj> jack_sparrow how do i do that lawl
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Create a new launcher
[02:24] <ompaul> JDL01, why, you could just logout and be done with it
[02:25] <JDL01> because it din;'t work
[02:25] <raashaad2010> how write dhcp ubuntu
[02:25] <JDL01> ah
[02:25] <JDL01> ok
[02:25] <JDL01> that's worked
[02:26] <OmegaNine> Any idea how to tell mplayer how to keep the videos aspect when I go in to a full screen mode on a wide screen display?
[02:26] <lupine_85> raashaad: you mean how to get a DHCP address?
[02:26] <lupine_85> sudo dhclient <interface>
[02:26] <looktj> lawl im using gnome error image
[02:31] <tuxtux_> ciao a tutti
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[02:31] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:32] <Healot> ciao'ed
[02:33] <mortalguy> Hey. Is there a tool I can use to test if the various sound-implementations (esd, alsa) work?
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> That is the first time I have ever seen this channel go 5 minutes without a message
[02:34] <fyrestrtr> mortalguy: play some music.
[02:34] <mortalguy> fyrestrt1, I tried that, doesn't work.
[02:34] <mortalguy> i.e. no music is played.
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[02:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:34] <nomin> !democracyplayer
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracyplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <vonluger> hi to all
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> mortalguy: did you try playing an ogg file as well
[02:35] <mortalguy> no
[02:35] <vonluger> i must install fglrx but i have a radeon xpress 200m
[02:35] <nomin> democracy player installs pretty quick on ubuntu
[02:35] <mortalguy> I'll try that
[02:35] <nomin> it's not in the repos yet
[02:35] <nomin> but I think it should be
[02:35] <nomin> http://www.getdemocracy.com/
[02:35] <mortalguy> Jack_Sparrow, doesn't work
[02:35] <vonluger> what version of driver i can install
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> mortalguy: That helps
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> mortalguy: Do you see your sound card when in term you type lspci
[02:36] <vonluger> i must install fglrx but i have a radeon xpress 200m what verisoon of driver can i install?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> mortalguy: FYI, the other guys .. ops...  are way better at this stuff than I am,,,
[02:37] <mortalguy> I'd say this would be my sound card: 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> vonluger: have you read the help page from here.?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[02:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> mortalguy: yep
[02:38] <mortalguy> well, then yes, my sound card is in the lspci output
[02:39] <vonluger> jack yes i see that i can install driver 8.24.8 is this the driver for me?
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> vonluger: yes that link was for you
[02:39] <finalbeta> So sad that I always have to go back to winodows to play music. Ubuntu wont play 5.1 for me. Tryed alsa mailing list, had no response, tryed #alsa, but no sollution. Anyone else wants to have a try? I got 2.0 , never 5.1 using alsa.
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mortalguy: I have to pass and let someone better at that take care of you.. It is a slow morning, maybe we can both learn something
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> finalbeta: You got music, just not 5.1 surround..
[02:40] <Healot> finalbeta, tried using other pkayers yet, vlc for example, it does support 5.1 audio, btwm you can configure xine to mix 5.1 audio into stereo
[02:40] <finalbeta> Jack_Sparrow, indeed.
[02:41] <BazziR> finalbeta: whats your soundcard?
[02:41] <nomin> !audio
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <nomin> !sound
[02:41] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> mortalguy: Give the guys a chance to finish their coffee and you should be able to get some help.
[02:42] <finalbeta>  Card: Intel ICH5                                                             
[02:42] <finalbeta>  Chip: C-Media Electronics CMI9780
[02:42] <mortalguy> alright, thanks Jack_Sparrow
[02:42] <BazziR> oh, hm
[02:42] <finalbeta> nomin, thnx, but this is past that
[02:42] <BazziR> never used that one
[02:42] <sris> Hi! After having some weird problems with my first (ever) install av ubuntu i decided to reinstall it. It seems that the partitions on the drive im using for the install are all scewd up. When i use the automagic guiden partition, and thells the install to "erase everything on that drive" i get this result. http://rafb.net/paste/results/stVM0Y54.html
[02:43] <sris> Does that mean that the swap is the 5tg partition on that disk?
[02:43] <ubuntu> well my ubuntu got currpted
[02:43] <ubuntu> :(
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> mortalguy: You did make sure to unmute and up the volume on all channels didnt you
[02:44] <ubuntu> got 1 question
[02:45] <mortalguy> yes of course
[02:45] <ubuntu> when i try to run aumix command
[02:45] <ubuntu> i get error opening the file
[02:45] <finalbeta> Healot, tryed setting gstreamer to 5.1, used xine with 5.1, I don't want to convert 5.1 to sterio. I want sterio to 5.1.
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> mortalguy: You understand I had to ask that
[02:45] <mortalguy> :)
[02:45] <ubuntu> any ideas?
[02:45] <AsadR> where do i get the GStreamer plugin for MP3 ?
[02:46] <mortalguy> Jack_Sparrow, in aumix I don't see any channels but a microphone... In System > Preferences > Sound I see that the default sound card is set to my USB microphone. When I change that to my Intel sound card, close the dialog and open it again I see the settings aren't saved
[02:47] <ubuntu> AsadR:  tried synaptic?
[02:47] <sris> Ok, i'll refrase, http://rafb.net/paste/results/stVM0Y54.html does the #5 in the swap-row indicate that the swap is the 5th partition on that disk?
[02:47] <ubuntu> sris:  it should be written there
[02:48] <ubuntu> what kinda of partition it is
[02:49] <sris> ubuntu: what should be written?
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> mortalguy: You are just in an area I have NO experience in... If you had a modem... Im there for you :) I really want to see how your problem gets address..
[02:49] <mortalguy> Jack_Sparrow, alright, I'll go on on my own. I'll be back with any updates.
[02:49] <ubuntu> mortalguy: whats ur problem?
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:49] <ubuntu> Jack_Sparrow:  hi there
[02:49] <ubuntu> :)
[02:49] <npster> What was that lib for the windows codecs ?
[02:49] <mortalguy> ubuntu, I think I found some solution, nvm for now :)
[02:49] <ubuntu> k
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> what do you show in system settings sound
[02:49] <ubuntu> npster: w32codec
[02:49] <mortalguy> yep, there we go. :)
[02:49] <npster> tnx
[02:49] <mortalguy> Jack_Sparrow, I've unplugged my USB mic, and now it apparently works.
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> wow
[02:50] <ubuntu> Jack_Sparrow:  can i get some help plz :)
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> I love days where I learn something
[02:50] <mixandgo> is there any difference between ubuntu + kde and kubuntu ?
[02:50] <mortalguy> USB mics + Ubuntu = no good
[02:50] <npster> ubuntu: sorry they aren't in synaptic and I have universe
[02:50] <Samuli^> mixandgo, with ubuntu you get gnome too :P
[02:50] <glassbits> i installed aiglx and compiz on my system which has a k8m800 graphics chip , has anybody got aiglx working on this hardware ?
[02:50] <ubuntu> npster:  u gotta download it from mplayerhq.hu
[02:51] <mixandgo> Samuli^: and other than that ?
[02:51] <ubuntu> Jack_Sparrow:  oh nvrmnd
[02:51] <ubuntu> thats anyways
[02:51] <lhds> how to erase my usb master boot record?
[02:51] <Samuli^> mixandgo, if you install kubuntu-desktop then I don't think there's a difference.
[02:52] <ubuntu> laters
[02:52] <ubuntu> :P
[02:52] <mixandgo> Samuli^: thanks
[02:53] <ompaul> mixandgo, do a diff on kubuntu-desktop and kde with apt-cache show and you can grasp the difference
[02:53] <Zambezi> I changed to IceWM and now I can't find a mediaplayer. Which is the best?
[02:54] <ompaul> !best
[02:54] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:54] <jungsonn> i have a big problem, i have evolution mail, and it loads on booting about 75 new screens, i kill it, but they come back, so i removed evolution mail, but then i get warnings every 2 sec. that it cannot find evolution mail, so i installed it again, but it still loads 75 to a 150 screens, even now.... dont know what to do anymore....
[02:54] <lhds>  how to erase my usb master boot record?
[02:55] <JDL01> thankyou for your help guys
[02:56] <Zambezi> ompaul, Is there anyone uou recommend? :-P
[02:56] <sh4dox> hello
[02:56] <dark_light> ubotu, but you must agree that quicksort is the best overall sorting algorithm
[02:56] <dark_light> :PPP
[02:56] <ompaul> Zambezi, I like and this is me - xmms - but then I have been using it for 10 years :)
[02:56] <ompaul> or more
[02:56] <ompaul> it feels like that anyway
[02:56] <sh4dox> i'm trying to connect my phone via bluetooth with my notebook, but it seems not work, it asks me for a code :s
[02:57] <jungsonn> anyone an idea what it could be?
[02:57] <dark_light> ubotu, (oops, msgs to you are considered? sorry :P)
[02:57] <ubotu> oops: caching HTTP proxy server written for performance. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.23.cvs-2.2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 315 kB, installed size 960 kB
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: What package did you use to install ice and how hard was it?
[02:57] <Zambezi> ompaul, I just use it for music, but I can try it for video too.
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: And can you switch between that and gnome?
[02:58] <looktj> ubotu, (oops, msgs to you are considered? sorry :P)
[02:58] <ubotu> oops: caching HTTP proxy server written for performance. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.23.cvs-2.2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 315 kB, installed size 960 kB
[02:58] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, I used sudo apt-get install icewm. I install fileroller too, but it's horrible.
[02:58] <looktj> what does that do?
[02:58] <ompaul> jungsonn, the only thing I can think of there is some "save session" thing you triggered and you opened this huge volume of mail close every one of them move them from one folder to another and see what happens
[02:58] <ompaul> Zambezi, then you need to look at other programs read the page I am about to get the bot to send you
[02:59] <ompaul> !restricted > Zambezi
[02:59] <ompaul> Zambezi, I like mplayer but again that is just me
[02:59] <jungsonn> is it an idea to boot into another session i once made?
[02:59] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, I think I can switch too FVWM, Fluxbox, but I'm not sure what happens with program using X.
[02:59] <holycow_> *hmm*
[02:59] <sh4dox> wow it works !! :D does someone knows a good synchronisation tool?
[02:59] <holycow_> what is the command for kicking my nick off irc again?
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: One last question how do you run ice once it is installed
[03:00] <exs> Phone synchronisation program for my cell phone (sony ericsson w810i) ?
[03:00] <ompaul> jungsonn, no it is a better idea to find the setting you have there and sort it out
[03:00] <ompaul> help, please whats with the nick changes
[03:01] <holycow_> ompaul, say what?
[03:01] <help> holycow sorry
[03:01] <Zambezi> help, Then I logged in with gdm, I changed session from Xubuntu too IceWM and choose to use it as default.
[03:01] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, , Then I logged in with gdm, I changed session from Xubuntu too IceWM and choose to use it as default.
[03:01] <ompaul> holycow_, all obvious?
[03:01] <sh4dox> Exs: yes for sony ericsson, no for w810 :D  it's for K700i
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Was trying to help him and didnt realize what I had done.. (Hide my head in shame)
[03:02] <exs> sh4dox:  Well, I'm sure the 700i will wor just like the w810i
[03:02] <holycow_> ompaul, no, i'm missing something ... i'be been up for a while
[03:02] <exs> sh4dox:  What's the app called?
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks..
[03:02] <jungsonn> hi im back linux halted :(
[03:02] <sh4dox> exs: the app i use for the moment is euhm ... moment :D i'm checkingit
[03:03] <jungsonn> i booted into default session of ubuntu, and evolution mail seems not to load anymore.
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> holycow_: /msg nickserv help   gives the list
[03:03] <holycow_> ah! danke
[03:03] <jungsonn> but my question is, if i reinstall it are the bugs then gone?
[03:03] <holycow_> gotcha, danke
[03:03] <McScruff> is it possible to update to edgy from my current
[03:03] <woland_> can i install ubuntu using a serial port?
[03:03] <azathoth> McScruff: yes...
[03:03] <ompaul> !edgy
[03:03] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:03] <sh4dox> exs: gnome-phone-manager, but is to basic
[03:04] <McScruff> ty
[03:04] <WisH[AWAY] > anyone knows where i can get help with my unreal server?
[03:04] <exs> sh4dox:  how do you mean basic?.. I just want to save all my messages
[03:04] <WisH[AWAY] > running from my pc
[03:04] <jungsonn> another question: can i completely remove evolution mail from ubuntu? and if so how is this done in a terminal?
[03:04] <holycow_> test
[03:05] <slate> hello
[03:05] <ompaul> jungsonn, not a great idea,     sudo apt-get remove --purge evolution
[03:05] <sh4dox> exs: that won't work with the tool i'm using at the moment, in windows there is a nice programm called "float mobile agent" but in linux i'm still looking for a good program
[03:05] <slate> can someone ping me, to test my dynamic dns?
[03:05] <slate>  ping birodaniel.dynudns.com
[03:05] <jungsonn> i try to remove it with synaptic but it asked: remove: terminal, gnome etc.. would not be a good idea i guess? :D
[03:06] <ompaul> slate, its there
[03:06] <slate> thanks ompaul
[03:06] <jungsonn> ompaul, i had some bugs with it, if i reinstall are those gone u think?
[03:06] <lhds> how to know that my network card is functionning in prompt
[03:07] <exs> sh4dox:  can't I run it under wine??
[03:08] <Roh81> Im trying to figure out why flash videos playing within a firefox browser wont play sound.
[03:08] <sh4dox> exc: i'm not sure, i'm not using wine (i'm on dualboot) i'll check it for ya ... hold on
[03:08] <sh4dox> exs: yes it works fine with wine
[03:09] <exs> sh4dox:  Brilliant. How do I setit up?.. I've gone through how to make utorrent work under linux but I forgot the tutorial
[03:09] <exs> I still have wine on my ubuntu.
[03:09] <holycow_> Roh81, check ubuntu forums for that, there is a fix
[03:09] <holycow_> !flash
[03:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:09] <holycow_> !flash sound
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <azathoth> utorrent is easy to setup in linux
[03:10] <Roh81> Holycow_: Thanks atleast I know its not something I did. I thought my sound card was dying for a minute.
[03:10] <sh4dox> exs: can't help you with wine, as i said before i'm not using it myself ... if you wonder how to setup fma then i can help you very well :D
[03:11] <bv3g> does anyone have any experience with wpa_supplicant & network-manager-gnome?
[03:11] <sh4dox> exs: multisync is a sync tool for linux, give it a try :D
[03:12] <orbin> evening.  could someone help me mount/automount my usb stick?
[03:12] <exs> sh4dox:  got that, but doesn't seem to like my ubuntu
[03:12] <JamieBE> Hi there! - Does anyone know what program I can use to open Microsoft Publisher files?
[03:12] <sh4dox> exs: ow ... any problems or ... tell me :D i'm about to intall it
[03:12] <holycow_> JamieBE, you cannot
[03:13] <holycow_> JamieBE, publisher is designed to sell publisher files
[03:13] <holycow_> there is no real import/export for pub available
[03:13] <exs> sh4dox:  well, it installs fine, but it crahes upon startup with me
[03:13] <exs> sh4dox:  It only crahses when I try and setup the connection
[03:13] <JamieBE> holycow_ - This is Ubuntu - There has to a a solution somewhere.
[03:13] <holycow_> JamieBE, no ther eisn't
[03:13] <tizwonder> Has anyone here ever use amarok
[03:14] <JamieBE> holycow_ - There must be.
[03:14] <holycow_> *sigh*
[03:14] <sh4dox> exs: hmm ok, i'll look for any other tool
[03:14] <holycow_> believe what you want to. you asked i told you.  i deal with this question weekly.
[03:15] <sh4dox> exs: seems multisync is the only app in his kind, i'll give it a try
[03:15] <exs> sh4dox:  ok
[03:17] <sh4dox> exs: how can i set up a connection with multisync
[03:17] <exs> sh4dox: click new button
[03:18] <sh4dox> exs: yes .. :D
[03:18] <exs> it's pretty straight foward
[03:19] <sh4dox> exs: it says "plugin missing" :s
[03:19] <keiron> Hi. I have setup my monitor correctly in xorg.conf but i want to specifically set my refresh rate to 75hz. could someone please tell me how to do this? thank you
[03:19] <exs> sh4dox:  hmm .. it#s rubbish anyways
[03:19] <exs> only syncs with calender
[03:20] <sh4dox> pff sucky tool
[03:20] <keiron> (btw, i have dual monitor setup with XRandR so i cannot change it through the Screen Resolution menu option)
[03:20] <orbin> keiron: heh, was about ot say ... if it's correct, it should be choosable in sys > prefs > screen res.
[03:21] <sh4dox> exs: alreday removed it :D
[03:21] <sh4dox> *allready :D
[03:21] <looktj> godaddy sucks at hosting
[03:21] <looktj> :|
[03:21] <TLE> keiron: It's not related but are you using GNOME
[03:21] <keiron> TLE: yes
[03:22] <cube> hi guys
[03:22] <keiron> TLE: Why do you ask>
[03:23] <orbin> 'lo cube
[03:23] <cube> I've now xubuntu and look for a sources.list , which includes servers where i get the most common things like amule , amsn and things ike this...they aren't in the standard package list
[03:23] <quovadis_a> hi
[03:23] <cube> can someone gimme one?
[03:23] <sh4dox> exs: i advise you to use fma in associating with wine
[03:23] <TLE> keiron: Can we go private, no need to clutter up the channel with chit-chat
[03:23] <exs> sh4dox:  well, i don't know how to use wine to install fma
[03:23] <orbin> !easysource > cube
[03:24] <Shin_Gouki> hi whats channel for edgy?
[03:24] <sh4dox> exs: me neither, maybe some else in this room can help us by setting up wine
[03:24] <c0d3h4ck> ..
[03:24] <azathoth> #ubuntu+1
[03:24] <keiron> TLE: I think I need to be a server member for that. join #chitchat instead
[03:24] <TLE> join #chitchat
[03:24] <orbin> seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine yet?
[03:25] <Dace> sh4dox: #winehq
[03:25] <kozmic> when i plug in a USB disk, how can i turn off nautilus popping up with the content? (annoying when using external disk with 5 paritions, all 5 windows pop up when i connect it)
[03:26] <orbin> kozmic: sys > prefs > removable drives
[03:26] <cube> orbin: ty...i'll have a look
[03:26] <kozmic> thanks orbin
[03:26] <cesc> HI
[03:26] <orbin> ...disable the browse tickbox i would think
[03:26] <kozmic> orbin: yeah. *tries*
[03:27] <kozmic> orbin: that worked just fine. i should have figured that one out myself :) hehe, thanks anyway
[03:27] <orbin> yw
[03:28] <Demio> hello
[03:28] <orbin> now if only _my_ usb stick would mount :)
[03:28] <Aldoliel> Hi there
[03:28] <JamieBE> holycow_ - I'm looking into this full time now - That's wound me up tighter than a vatican nun's legs.
[03:29] <Demio> my dvdrecorder is acting up on me again
[03:29] <Demio> when i try to view the contents of the dvd i get this
[03:29] <Demio> The folder contents could not be displayed.
[03:29] <Demio> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "dvdrecorder".
[03:30] <ninan> hi. since a few days i am seeing issues with track recognization in sound juicer. i cannot find any information on www.musicbrainz.org about server outages. any clue?
[03:30] <Demio> I fixed it yesterday, but it was a messy fix and didnt last a whole reboot
[03:30] <sh4dox> exs: join me at #winehq
 it works with sudo -s ?
[03:30] <Demio> is there a clean and permanent way to fix it?
[03:30] <Demio> hmm
[03:30] <ninan> Demio: had same problem recently and fixed by inserting the mount points to the /etc/fstab
[03:31] <ninan> Demio: setting the permissions on the mount points doesnt work over reboots
[03:32] <Demio> ok
[03:32] <Demio> how do i d othat?
[03:32] <ninan> Demio: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab opens up the file
[03:33] <Demio> ok now what
[03:33] <Demio> I think the dvdrecorder is /dev/hdc
[03:33] <ninan> Demio: now add lines similar to the following for each your cdrom device: /dev/hda        /media/dvdrecorder      udf,iso9660     user,noauto     0      0
[03:33] <Demio> ok
[03:33] <sonium> I have a problem following the wiki on building the kernel. It says "The stock Ubuntu configs are located in debian/config/ARCH/ where ARCH is the architecture you are building for" but whers ist "debian/" located?
[03:33] <orbin> ninan: i prefer grip over sj myself
[03:34] <ninan> Demio: now you should be able to insert disk into drive and see contents as regular user
[03:34] <ninan> orbin: yes it is, but it doesnt have the rhythmbox-integration. :(
[03:34] <Demio> hnnnn
[03:35] <Demio> i think it worked :D
[03:36] <Demio> now im going to find out if cedega detects my bf2 dvd
[03:36] <ninan> orbin: further freedb is gone too. I guess they are going to close it down
[03:36] <dmsantam> !xgl
[03:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:36] <buddha_> hi@all
[03:37] <orbin> ninan: i see ... i don't use rhythmbox either.  damn freedb's gone for good?
[03:37] <orbin> supposed to be a comma after damn :)
[03:37] <orbin> 'lo buddha_
[03:38] <ninan> orbin: last i heared was that the guys behind it wont discontinue freedb since they got split up about some web 2.0 features
[03:38] <ninan> orbin: they were searching for ppl that would continue the service but afaik there was nobody found
[03:39] <orbin> gee, that's a shame.
[03:44] <snoops> hmm ninan last I read they were still considering groups?
[03:45] <Carrie> hi
[03:45] <ninan> snoops: hmm. didnt got any recent update on this, freedb.org is not reachable at the moment from here.
[03:45] <buddha_> hi Carrie
[03:45] <_gal-pal_> hi buddah
[03:46] <_gal-pal_> so how many gega bytes do you guys have
[03:46] <_gal-pal_> ?
[03:47] <_gal-pal_> nvmd
[03:47] <snoops> oh I checked about 4 days ago ninan
[03:48] <ninan> snoops: nice to see there is still a chance
[03:48] <snoops> fingers crossed
[03:48] <snoops> I did grab a db dump then
[03:48] <_gal-pal_> hey what is the topic
[03:49] <zcat> Anyone happen to know why MRTG doesn't survive a reboot on an Ubuntu minimal server? mrtg.log says it's because /var/lock/mrtg/somelockfile doesn't exist. My fix was just to create that dir in the /etc/cron.d/mrtg before calling mrtg, though I shouldn't have to.
[03:49] <orbin> same here ... grip can still grab track info
[03:49] <repete> Is anyone here using edgy w/ Network Manager?
[03:51] <GameCat> hi - does anyone have any idea why I'm not getting 3d accel with my nvidia card using nvidia-glx-legacy?
[03:51] <snoops> which nvidia card?
[03:51] <GameCat> snoops: geforce 4
[03:51] <GameCat> it was fine in previous versions - i just updated to dapper
[03:52] <snoops> wouldn't that fit under nvidia-glx not -legacy?
[03:52] <azathoth> geforce 4 doesn't use the legacy one
[03:52] <azathoth> nvidia-glx works fine with gf4 (i'm using it right now)
[03:52] <GameCat> the only way to get a 1920x1200 desktop is to use the legacy driver
[03:52] <sopido> hi are there some specification for the iconrc file format? (like how  the default folder icon is named and what stock icons are defined)
[03:53] <GameCat> it wouldn't go above 1600x1200 with the straight glx drivers
[03:53] <snoops> hmm? I've got an nvidia card (better than geforce 4 mind you), using nvidia-glx, and that's running fine at 1920x1200
[03:53] <gansinho> !workspace
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <gansinho> hi, does anybody know how I add more workspaces to a gnome ubuntu?
[03:54] <azathoth> right click the workspaces and select preferences
[03:54] <GameCat> snopps: it was fine under hoary but rejects all my attempts to get that res under dapper, unless I drop back to the legacy drivers, where it works perfectly :/
[03:54] <techII> Im having an issue with a fresh (using the lamps installer) server install not booting
[03:55] <azathoth> gansinho: that do it?
[03:55] <techII> pentium 90-something m ram
[03:55] <gansinho> sorry afk
[03:56] <gansinho> yes!
[03:56] <maxime> hey guys, i have a inspiron 9300 with an ati mobility x300, after installing ubuntu and rebooting my laptop freezes on a black screen?
[03:56] <maxime> google told me this is a common issue
[03:56] <techII> do the server kernels use any optimizations that only work on more recent processors?
[03:56] <gansinho> azathoth: but i'm with xgl, I would like to have the top and the botton of the cube with faces
[03:57] <azathoth> what do you mean?
[03:57] <repete> maxime: did you install the fglrx drivers?
[03:57] <azathoth> in xgl, ediit the cube section of the gconf
[03:57] <repete> maxime: and are you using edgy or dapper?
[03:57] <snoops> GameCat you've been adding that res in your xorg I assume.. checked the forums or google?
[03:57] <maxime> i just did the gui install
[03:57] <nox-Hand> Hang on...I just killed...a dane! :o
[03:57] <maxime> didn't see the option for installing fglrx drivers
[03:58] <gansinho> azathoth: when I alt+click, I see the cube, however two "faces" of the cube are balank
[03:58] <gansinho> blank
[03:58] <azathoth> yes, in the cube section of the gconf you can configure it to have images
[03:58] <gansinho> just images... or workspaces too?
[03:59] <azathoth> not sure if you can put workspaces on there, i think you can only have images
[03:59] <azathoth> but i'm not 100%
[03:59] <repete> maxime: I have seen the same issue, but I'm running edgy and have been messing with proprietary drivers
[03:59] <Netcad> how can I find out what /dev/ the device on http://pastebin.com/782596 is at?
[03:59] <zcat> sorry to bother - "/var/lock/mrtg disapears on reboot" is a known bug - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mrtg/+bug/30428
[03:59] <repete> maxime: try starting in "safe mode" (I think that is what it is called) and then `startx` when you get to a "#" prompt
[04:00] <maxime> repete, i'm using ubuntu 6.04
[04:00] <maxime> that's the problem
[04:00] <gansinho> azathoth: whre gconf is?! ... I'm using linux just for two weeks... is it in /etc/X11 ?
[04:00] <maxime> at boottime it loads until a certain point when i should see a screen
[04:00] <Rookie-> upgrade the version ...
[04:00] <repete> maxime: why is it a problem to use 6.04?
[04:00] <maxime> i see a black screen
[04:00] <azathoth> gansinho: try asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:00] <azathoth> no, gconf is an app
[04:00] <gansinho> oh thanks a lot!
[04:00] <azathoth> press alt+f2 and enter "gconf-editor"
[04:01] <repete> maxime: right, I have seen the same, but you want to see if there are any errors spewed to the terminal
[04:01] <repete> maxime: that is why I'm advising you to start in safe mode
[04:01] <maxime> okay
[04:01] <maxime> and...
[04:01] <maxime> cause i remember that safe mode gives me the same black screen
[04:02] <repete> maxime: absolutely blank screen or black with white text?
[04:02] <maxime> no errors, completly black and my computer freezes
[04:02] <maxime> ctrl+alt+del gives no reaction
[04:03] <maxime> i have to switch off power
[04:03] <TEN> I find commenting out all modes below 1024*768 from /etc/X11/xorg.conf won't stop Xubuntu from starting in a lower resolution anyway when it can't detect a (DDC) monitor, e.g. behind a KVM switch. How do I prevent this, i.e. make sure a fixed resolution of 1024*768 is used? And how do I enforce the same high resolution all the way straight from kernel boot (couldn't figure out a vmode yet, though the "Live DVD" has one for 1024*768*32) ?
[04:03] <repete> so it kernel panics... :-/
[04:03] <repete> hmmm....
[04:03] <maxime> well the problem is my ati mobiltiy x300
[04:03] <maxime> i'm sure of it
[04:03] <repete> have you tried rescue mode with the CD?
[04:04] <repete> you can try to have a look at he X log that way
[04:04] <maxime> uhuh
[04:04] <CVirus> I deleted some files related to ssl-cert package ... how can I re-install them ?
[04:04] <repete> do the X logs give any clue?
[04:04] <maxime> oh yes, i found this to disable the frame buffer freeze type this at boot time linux vga=771 noapic nolapic
[04:04] <cafuego> It was xgl in the library with the candle stick.
[04:05] <repete> maxime: you had to do that for the CD to work?
[04:05] <maxime> no the cd boots fine and installs ubuntu perfectly
[04:05] <maxime> the problems start after rebooting without the cd
[04:06] <repete> maxime: sorry, not to be dense, but where are you entering `linux vga=771 noapic nolapic`?
[04:06] <repete> in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[04:06] <maxime> well i haven't figgered that out yet
[04:06] <repete> ah :-)
[04:07] <repete> maxime: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:07] <raziekiel> How do I find out what kernel I am running? i.e. linux-image-amd64-k8 etc
[04:07] <Breetai> Hi all, the screensavers show up on the "system menu", where is the item that tells the menu generator to put them there?
[04:07] <repete> maxime: go to the very bottom
[04:07] <rixxon> how to disable annoying minimization animation?
[04:07] <maxime> k
[04:07] <repete> you add it to the end of the line that starts with "kernel"
[04:08] <orbin> raziekiel: uname -r
[04:08] <npster> What is the way to make the system delete all applications but not the ones that were installed when the system was. Something like MS System Restore ?
[04:08] <CVirus> how can i see what package provides a certain file ?
[04:08] <repete> maxime: but I don't think you need the "linux" part
[04:08] <maxime> k
[04:08] <erUSUL> npster: none afaik
[04:08] <orbin> CVirus: packages.ubuntu.com has a file search feature ... or you can use apt-file
[04:08] <maxime> but, where do i enter edit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[04:08] <repete> oh... sorry
[04:08] <npster> erUSUL: that cant be done ?
[04:09] <raziekiel> Thanks orbin!
[04:09] <repete> maxime are you familiar with vi, emacs or pico?
[04:09] <maxime> yes
[04:09] <CVirus> orbin: thanks
[04:09] <maxime> but, i haven't got a prompt to enter it
[04:09] <orbin> maxime: i'd try just setting the options @ boot first before you go edit that file
[04:09] <maxime> i see grub, selection list
[04:09] <repete> maxime you will have to use the rescue mode to get to the root fs
[04:09] <erUSUL> npster: afaik no there is no "easy" way to do that...
[04:09] <repete> oh, wait
[04:09] <maxime> k
[04:10] <repete> maxime: ok, when you are in the room menu
[04:10] <npster> erUSUL: what is that afaik ?
[04:10] <sonium> how can I get the linux-source for kernel-2.6.15-25? synaptic only know version -26
[04:10] <repete> s/boot/root/
[04:10] <pacho> hello
[04:10] <repete> hit the "e" key
[04:10] <maxime> k
[04:10] <maxime> don't that already
[04:10] <francesca> hi guys
[04:10] <maxime> done
[04:10] <npster> erUSUL: what is the hard way to do it then
[04:10] <francesca> i have a question for you. what does mean 'dapper'
[04:11] <repete> maxime: ok, no highlight the line starting with "kernel"
[04:11] <repete> s/no/now/
[04:11] <npster> How do I restore the system to a earlier time ?\
[04:11] <orbin> hi francesca. dapper's the codename for ubuntu 6.06
[04:11] <maxime> k
[04:11] <repete> maxime: hit the "e" key again
[04:11] <maxime> k
[04:12] <repete> and add "vga=771 noapic nolapic" to the end of the line
[04:12] <repete> after "splash"
[04:12] <maxime> i see splash quiet
[04:12] <npster> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
[04:12] <maxime> after that?
[04:12] <repete> yes
[04:12] <francesca> orbin, ok but  what does mean dapper?
[04:12] <repete> maxime: make sure I got that line right
[04:13] <npster> How do I restore my system
[04:13] <maxime> yes
[04:13] <francesca> orbin, i find that name of ubuntu distro is adjiective animal
[04:13] <orbin> francesca: oh i see .. perhaps a dictionary could hekp you there
[04:13] <repete> ok, now I think you press the ESC key
[04:13] <maxime> and try to reboot?
[04:13] <orbin> francesca: right...as i understand it, dapper means "sharp, or good-looking"
[04:13] <repete> just press the "b" key
[04:13] <maxime> k
[04:13] <martii> dpkg-query  -W -f='${Package}\t${Size}\n' - why size is empty foe every package?
[04:14] <martii> dpkg-query  -W -f='${Package}\t${Size}\n' - why size is empty for every package?
[04:14] <repete> maxime this does not edit you menu.lst
[04:14] <maxime> can you tell me if there is any chance with the new ubuntu 6.06 that my problem will be gone?
[04:14] <repete> maxime: only works for this boot
[04:14] <francesca> orbin, there are web info about why developer choise this name?
[04:14] <maxime> yes okay
[04:14] <repete> but it is a good test
[04:14] <maxime> i'll be booting into ubuntu now, brb
[04:14] <repete> np
[04:15] <npster> How do I tell apt-get to remove every kde lib ?
[04:16] <brian98> Hi There, anyone recommend a good nntp reader or is everyone using thunderbird :) ?
[04:16] <Boll> pan
[04:16] <repete> brian98: PAN...
[04:17] <repete> sorry about that caps :-)
[04:17] <brian98> thanks guys...
[04:17] <repete> that wasn't enthusiasm :-)
[04:17] <brian98> :)
[04:17] <Boll> brian98: you probably want one of the new betas
[04:17] <brian98> is the evolution nntp client simply broken ;) ?
[04:17] <Boll> the ones in ubuntu proper er fairly old
[04:17] <Boll> s/er/are/
[04:18] <Boll> brian98: http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/
[04:18] <orbin> francesca: seen this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames ?
[04:18] <brian98> boll: thanks very much
[04:18] <francesca> orbin, thanks :)
[04:19] <Boll> or you can try my 0.110 package for debian
[04:19] <ions> I can't find the data on my drive with the live disk - I want to back up about 5gigs over a network onto another machine using the live disk
[04:19] <brian98> ok
[04:19] <repete> is gaim compiled w/o SSL support?
[04:19] <repete> in Edgy?
[04:20] <ions> I created a dir called 'backup' on the desktop of the Fedora install
[04:21] <neutrinomass> repete: #ubuntu+1 for edgy, and I think the answer is yes :)
[04:21] <kantlivelong> how do i disable the pam_unix message @ login?
[04:21] <lostinc> I was wondering is KDE open source?
[04:21] <azathoth> of course
[04:21] <kaffeewoller> does a german translation of evolution exist?
[04:22] <npster> lostinc: Of course
[04:22] <lostinc> I just remember having read something abou KDE having some issues with the QT library or something.
[04:22] <gwbread> I have a quick question
[04:22] <npster> gwbread: say it
[04:23] <gwbread> I am thinking about buying a 512mb usb oen so I can save my live cd setting
[04:23] <AngryElf> how could i ping every ip  of the form 10.1.1.* to search for a computer?
[04:23] <gwbread> if i have 512 mb ram will it work?
[04:23] <Boll> AngryElf: use nmap
[04:23] <repete> neutrinomass: crap :-(
[04:23] <neutrinomass> lostinc: KDE is under the GPL. QT is under a mixed GPL/QPL license as far as I know. In other words: If you want to write a QT application that is NOT open source, you have to pay for it. Otherwise you can use it freely.
[04:23] <npster> gwbread: yeah, i have 1gb and it goes well without a swap
[04:24] <maxime> repete
[04:24] <maxime> no luck man
[04:24] <orbin> ions: find the partition w/ sudo fdisk -l and mount it
[04:24] <repete> kantlivelong: edit /etc/motd
[04:24] <maxime> no errors
[04:24] <lostinc> OHH Is that the big diff ?
[04:24] <lostinc> WOW
[04:24] <maxime> black screen still there
[04:24] <gwbread> npster can you orvite me for a sec?
[04:24] <repete> maxime, did you at least get to a prompt?
[04:24] <looktj> gwbread: the live cd about 700 MB or more
[04:24] <maxime> nope, recovery mode stalls to
[04:24] <npster> gwbread: what
[04:24] <AngryElf> boll what's the syntax for that?
[04:25] <lostinc> The reason I was asking is I like Quanta for web dev but haven't used it since I have read that article.
[04:25] <Boll> let me just check the man page
[04:25] <npster> gwbread: orvite
[04:25] <repete> so when you install dapper you basically use a live CD
[04:25] <maxime> i saw this line: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2-6-15-18-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=0x323 quiet flash
[04:25] <Boll> AngryElf: nmap -sP 10.1.1.0/24
[04:25] <gwbread> ok i have a 32mb oen drive after formating it as the swap and trying to load into persistent my comp will not boot, does that make sence?
[04:25] <gwbread> private
[04:26] <repete> maxime: "flash" or "splash"?
[04:26] <maxime> splash
[04:26] <maxime> lol
[04:26] <looktj> one question, what a better format? ext3 or linux swap?
[04:26] <npster> gwbread: you formatted a flash drive ???!!!
[04:26] <repete> looks like you need to edit the "vga=" line to use vga=771 according to what you have read
[04:26] <npster> looktj: what
[04:26] <maxime> done that to
[04:26] <lostinc> Is there a GNOME based web dev IDE other then bluefish?
[04:26] <repete> it may be that you cannot have two vga= lines in there
[04:26] <repete> ok
[04:26] <gwbread> well i unmounted it and partitiones it the ext3 i think
[04:27] <gwbread> with the casper-cow label
[04:27] <HeathenDan> lol, that's an interesting question looktj
[04:27] <looktj> ??
[04:27] <npster> gwbread: Did you format the Flash Drive into linux-swap
[04:27] <repete> maxime: do you know what version of X you have?
[04:27] <gwbread> yes
[04:27] <maxime> nope
[04:27] <maxime> the version of ubuntu 6.04
[04:27] <maxime> :)
[04:27] <cube> which server does i need, for getting madwifi-source per apt?
[04:27] <repete> yes...
[04:28] <gwbread> i have no hd in my system it crashed
[04:28] <npster> gwbread: That is stupid, cos if you format a FAT drive in another FS then it won't work
[04:28] <repete> cube: I think you just need to enable the "restricted" repo
[04:28] <gwbread> hang on
[04:28] <luckyone> what do I need to download to work with .rar archives
[04:28] <gwbread> I need to clarify i think
[04:28] <luckyone> I am using Xubuntu and it doesn't support it
[04:29] <kaffeewoller> does a german translation of evolution exist?
[04:29] <looktj> lawl
[04:29] <cube> repete: repo?
[04:29] <repete> maxime: I'm sorry, but I'm a bit at a loss.  X issues are difficult, and it may be that the "radeon" driver is broken in X 7.0
[04:29] <orbin> kaffeewoller: ask in #ubuntu-de too while you wait
[04:30] <looktj> my dad formated my flash drive by accident months ago when he was reinstalling xp
[04:30] <ubuntu> yo
[04:30] <kaffeewoller> orbin: i am doing this
[04:30] <repete> cube: have you used "Synaptic" yet?
[04:30] <ubuntu> whats the code to load anything u want
[04:30] <looktj> now flash drive dont work
[04:30] <maxime> which version does 6.06 have?
[04:30] <ubuntu> whats the word
[04:30] <AngryElf> boll, thanx
[04:30] <ubuntu> that u use to load somthin
[04:30] <orbin> ubuntu: load?
[04:30] <cube> no...i use apt... but in my sources list there is "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted"
[04:30] <gwbread> ok first, sudo umount /dev/sda1
[04:30] <ubuntu> uhh
[04:30] <looktj> cube use aptituded
[04:30] <looktj> aptitude*
[04:30] <ubuntu> at the run application thing
[04:31] <repete> cube: is that commented out?
[04:31] <bab1> Hello, Can you help me?
[04:31] <davin> how can I check where something is mounted in Gnome?
[04:31] <cube> repete: no
[04:31] <ubuntu> wtf how hard can this be
[04:31] <davin> I mean
[04:31] <looktj> is it possible to get flash drive?
[04:31] <ubuntu> ok i try to load something it dosent
[04:31] <gwbread> next sudo mkfs.ext3 -b 4069 _L casper-cow /dev/sda1
[04:31] <ubuntu> now whats the word to make it load
[04:31] <davin> I know where something is mounted but I need to know where it is (/dev/...), how do I check that?
[04:31] <gwbread> oops typo in there
[04:31] <repete> cube: and `sudo apt-cache search madwifi` produces nothing?
[04:31] <looktj> do i have to format into a FAT system?
[04:31] <orbin> ubuntu: what are you trying to  "load"?
[04:31] <ubuntu> Synaptic
[04:31] <looktj> to get it working?
[04:32] <cube> repete: nothing that is interesting...
[04:32] <orbin> ubuntu: sys > admin > synaptic
[04:32] <gwbread> so it is only 32 mb , is that just to sall to work?
[04:32] <cube> means no package called "madwifi*"
[04:32] <ubuntu> dont have
[04:32] <richiefrich> !automatix
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[04:32] <orbin> ubuntu: or gksudo synaptic if you want to use the run dialog
[04:32] <ubuntu> just
[04:32] <ubuntu> give me the word
[04:32] <ubuntu> when i run it
[04:32] <repete> cube: do you see something like, "linux-restricted-module-<kernel-version>"
[04:32] <ubuntu> something Synaptic
[04:32] <looktj> repete: aptitude is better than apt-get
[04:32] <cube> repete: yeah
[04:32] <gwbread> npster: are you still listening?
[04:33] <repete> cube: I believe that is what you have to have installed
[04:33] <Jimmey> How can I get some information about my AGP slot?
[04:33] <repete> it is a kernel module
[04:33] <looktj> gwbread i believe he away
[04:33] <cube> aahhh...thx
[04:33] <orbin> ubuntu: are you running gnome?
[04:33] <gwbread> can u help me?
[04:33] <looktj> who me?
[04:33] <ubuntu> yues
[04:33] <gwbread> please
[04:33] <ubuntu> i think
[04:33] <gwbread> Iok
[04:33] <ubuntu> i dont get how hard it can be
[04:33] <ubuntu> to tell me 1 word
[04:33] <repete> gwbread: sorry, what is your issue?
[04:34] <cube> repete: this is the newest version
[04:34] <orbin> ubuntu: i told you how to run it via the run dialog
[04:34] <looktj> i have no expernice of flash drives
[04:34] <looktj> lawl
[04:34] <SV452> hi all
[04:34] <ubuntu> w.e
[04:34] <gwbread> ok I am trying to get a 32mb pen drive to save settings
[04:34] <repete> cube: you mean you already have that installed?  Are you trying to get an atheros card working?
[04:34] <gwbread> load into persistent you know
[04:34] <cube> repete: yes
[04:34] <gwbread> ok first, sudo umount /dev/sda1
[04:34] <cube> WG511T
[04:34] <gwbread> next sudo mkfs.ext3 -b 4069 _L casper-cow /dev/sda1
[04:35] <SV452> i have a question - how come u cant have ntfs read/write for all users???
[04:35] <repete> gwbread: save setting?  As in your application settings?
[04:35] <ubuntu> details: there is no default action associated with this location
[04:35] <bab1> I want to play .wmv in Totem. But it can,t?
[04:35] <gwbread> yes and desktop
[04:35] <repete> cube: what laptop?
[04:35] <bab1> Help me?
[04:35] <Jimmey> !RestrictedFormats
[04:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:35] <gwbread> all settings
[04:35] <cube> repete: toshiba sattelite 6000
[04:35] <azathoth> SV452: you can... using ntfs-3g gives full read/write for everyone for me...
[04:35] <cube> repete: with debian it was working
[04:35] <ubuntu> WOW
[04:36] <repete> gwbread: you basically need to define your home directory as being mounted on /dev/sda1/
[04:36] <ubuntu> i dont need to go thru all that shit for 1 word
[04:36] <repete> might be tricky
[04:36] <SV452> ntfs-3g??
[04:36] <orbin> ubuntu: do you see three menus at the panel on top of your screen?
[04:36] <ubuntu> yees
[04:36] <ubuntu> ..
[04:36] <gwbread> is 32md enough space?
[04:36] <gwbread> mb
[04:36] <orbin> ubuntu: clcik on system, then admin, then synaptic
[04:36] <ubuntu> idiot i swear
[04:36] <ubuntu> i said its not there
[04:36] <cube> repete: have you done this yet?
[04:36] <azathoth> idiot?
[04:37] <ubuntu> shut up
[04:37] <gwbread> do you know where i can get instructions on how to do that
[04:37] <looktj> back
[04:37] <gwbread> I just have been using ubuntu for like maybe a week since the hard drive died
[04:37] <kaffeewoller> please kick people that swear
[04:37] <gwbread> I am on live cd
[04:37] <repete> cube: do you have "/lib/modules/2.6.17-6-386/madwifi/ath_pci.ko"
[04:37] <ubuntu> shut up isnt swearing
[04:37] <orbin> ubuntu: take it easy.  open up a terminal and run: gksudo synaptic
[04:37] <repete> cube: replacing the correct kernel version, of course
[04:37] <ubuntu> THERE U DO
[04:37] <ubuntu> SUDO
[04:37] <ubuntu> thats the word ive been looking for
[04:38] <azathoth> ubuntu: please refrain from shouting
[04:38] <gwbread> I thought I was going to have to create a swap prtiton on the usb pen that woud just save all my changes
[04:38] <orbin> ubuntu: i told you that earlier :P
[04:38] <repete> gwbread: ah... crap, I don't know how to get that working.  I'm sorry. :-/
[04:38] <ubuntu> =|
[04:38] <gwbread> cool thanks
[04:38] <lens> I've been trying to use wine lately and having a ton of problems... do I need to fill part of it up with DLL's or lib files or something to make it more compatible?
[04:39] <gwbread> but wait repete does my plan sound feesible
[04:39] <gwbread> with a 512 mb key?
[04:39] <repete> gwbread: you don't need a swap partition, no
[04:39] <orbin> ubuntu: next time try reading instead of name-calling.
[04:39] <gwbread> but how can i save all my changes i mean I need it to save everything
[04:39] <repete> gwbread: what you want to do is possible (other distros have done it), but I think you need a special live CD
[04:39] <Ayabara> has anyone here got amarok working with aac? I can't add aac files to my collection, but I can play them
[04:39] <repete> gwbread: or create your own :-/
[04:39] <repete> very complex
[04:40] <gwbread> I have a live cd
[04:40] <cube> repete: yes i have
[04:40] <gwbread> you just need to use the boot option persistent
[04:40] <repete> Mandriva used to see a product that did that, for instance
[04:40] <gwbread> I hope
[04:40] <SV452> hmmm
[04:40] <gwbread> for the forums i think I might have that right
[04:40] <repete> cube: do you get any output from `sudo /sbin/lsmod | grep ath` ?
[04:41] <gwbread> I got those comands from a hacing ubuntu book
[04:41] <SV452> how will i go about in fstab to make my ntfs mounts read/write
[04:41] <gwbread> I thonk it makes sence
[04:41] <cube> ath_pci                80540  0
[04:41] <cube> ath_rate_sample        17160  1 ath_pci
[04:41] <cube> wlan                  144924  3 ath_pci,ath_rate_sample
[04:41] <cube> ath_hal               148816  3 ath_pci,ath_rate_sample
[04:41] <azathoth> SV452: have you installed ntfs-3g?
[04:41] <repete> cool, so the module is loaded
[04:41] <cube> means this its already working?
[04:42] <cube> repete: means i can use it?
[04:42] <azathoth> SV452: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[04:42] <repete> cube: what about `sudo /sbin/iwconfig` ?
[04:42] <gwbread> I talked to a guy though he is a linux guy he said the swap sould be double the ram, and i have 512 ram and am goingt o get a 512mb key
[04:42] <oli> does anyone know what could be reseting my dns servers?
[04:42] <gwbread> so I can take one stick out  guess
[04:42] <ubuntu> One more question
[04:42] <ubuntu> How can i get WMA songs to play?
[04:42] <azathoth> are you going to ask nicely this time?
[04:42] <erUSUL> !wma
[04:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:42] <gwbread> is there anype in here who has attemted what I am trying to do
[04:43] <ubuntu> =] 
[04:43] <cube> repete: iwconfig knows it...
[04:43] <orbin> gwbread: double the ram is not always needed ... depends on what you do.  i have 512mb swap and with my apps it rarely gets over 100 mb
[04:43] <ubuntu> How can i get WMA songs to play?
[04:43] <cube> repete: my fault was that i didn't think, that hes loading this modules in stabdard version
[04:43] <looktj> !wma
[04:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:43] <erUSUL> !wma > ubuntu
[04:44] <azathoth> hehe
[04:44] <erUSUL> !repeat > ubuntu
[04:44] <azathoth> will he get the message? only time will tell
[04:44] <jarlath> Does anyone know how to get pressure sensitivity working for a wacom graphics tablet?
[04:44] <ubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:44] <MuteMathSSR> join channel <Gaim>
[04:44] <oli> I had to set the dns to bypass the router, but it keeps reseting form my isp's dns to my local router ip
[04:45] <repete> cube: what is in "ESSID"?
[04:45] <erUSUL> oli: maybe the dhcpd server of the router?
[04:47] <cube> repete: still nothing
[04:47] <oli> erUSUL : i've told the router to bypass itself... and how can it get to my /etc folder? i didn't think the router could edit in there!
[04:47] <cube> but why this card doesn't support scanning with ubuntu, but with debian it does?
[04:49] <ions> how can I see the data on my drive with a live disk?
[04:49] <orbin> mount the relevant partitions
[04:49] <SV452> thanx for the link azathoth - !!! :)
[04:49] <ions> they don't automatically get mounted?
[04:50] <looktj> ions: sudo gparted
[04:50] <oli> Jack_Sparrow: got a minute?
[04:50] <ions> I get an already mounted or busy
[04:50] <azathoth> SV452: no probs :)
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi oli  hinda busy, but back in a minute or 10
[04:51] <icf7> i got a 80 GB Seagate HDD with a 79 GB main and a swap partition. This is correctly displayed in fdisk, but after mounting, df -h reports a partition size of 9.2 GB. Any ideas?
[04:51] <ions> ohh!
[04:51] <repete_> Can someone with ops please kick repete?
[04:51] <oli> Jack_Sparrow : np, i'll ask later. thanks.
[04:51] <repete_> I got disconnected :-/
[04:51] <ions> does the live disk read reiser?
[04:51] <SV452> somehow getting my 3G phone working with BT and Kppp was alot easier than anything else incl read/write for mount shares!!!
[04:51] <SV452> :D
[04:51] <ions>  /dev/sda2 is read as unknown fs
[04:51] <mansfeld> hi folks
[04:52] <repete_> cube; sorry, got disconnected
[04:52] <repete_> cube; did you get things working?
[04:52] <mansfeld> I realize this isn't really the proper channel for this question, but I'm trying to help out a friend... does anyone happen to know how you can mount a hard drive in Windows that hasn't been auto-mounted?
[04:53] <orbin> azathoth: no issues w/ ntfs-3g?
[04:53] <cube> repete, almost
[04:53] <azathoth> none
[04:53] <azathoth> it's worked 100% perfect for me... i loves it... and i have 400gb of stuff on ntfs i access all the time...
[04:53] <cube> repete: i just wonder why this card doesn't support scanning with ubuntu, but with debian it does?
[04:53] <oli> s
[04:53] <Roh81> x_x I cant seem to get macromedia flash to work. before just the sound wouldnt work. Now it wont load. Ive installed it like 5 times. Nothing.
[04:53] <repete_> mansfeld; you need to know which partition the windows partition is
[04:53] <abhinay> is there any command line tool wich converts .png to .jpg in console ?
[04:54] <bbrazil> abhinay: convert
[04:54] <orbin> repete: he's talking about "mounting" in windows
[04:54] <mansfeld> repete_:  problem is, it hasn't been asigned a partition
[04:54] <repete_> mansfeld; if it is /dev/hda1 (most likely) then try `mount /dev/hda1 /mnt`
[04:54] <abhinay> bbrazil, ty
[04:54] <repete_> mansfeld; try `sudo /sbin/fdisk /dev/hda`
[04:54] <mansfeld> repete_:  sorry if I wasn't clear, I'm looking for a way of doing that from windows
[04:55] <repete_> oh...
[04:55] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:55] <oli> anyone here got any ecperience with DNS's resting in ubunut?
[04:55] <etheria7> hello
[04:55] <ubuntu_> nope
[04:55] <mansfeld> repete_:  trying to save 2 hours not downloading a live CD :)
[04:55] <peter__> hi. can somebody help me with Evolution?
[04:55] <ubuntu_> hello linuturk
[04:56] <Linuturk> hello . . .
[04:56] <repete_> cube; madwifi is kind of broken after about November of last year
[04:56] <repete_> cube; were you using debian stable?
[04:56] <grinder> hey people i have a question
[04:56] <orbin> mansfeld: you're right...wrong channel :) ... maybe try #windows or #hardware
[04:56] <grinder> i'm currently using the desktop cd
[04:57] <repete_> mansfeld; are you trying to mount an empty hard drive?
[04:57] <grinder> how do i format my externel drive from here?
[04:57] <npster> looktj: explain
[04:57] <grinder> or is it impossible?
[04:57] <erUSUL> oli: not the router but the dhclient.... 'man resolv.conf'
[04:57] <grinder> i just connected the thing
[04:57] <dfgas_> is there a way to get bleeding edge software from packagemanager? like gaim 2.0 beta 3.1?
[04:57] <npster> sorry
[04:57] <repete_> mansfeld; Windows has a partitioner somewhere... right-click on "My Computer" and choose "manage" I think
[04:57] <mansfeld> repete_:  no, his laptop crashed, and he wants to retrieve the data before sending it in for repairs
[04:57] <pip> hello,anyone use kget ?
[04:57] <easytiger> my wireless interface is throwing up thousands of collisions.. anyone else seen that problem?
[04:57] <repete_> ah....
[04:58] <ubuntu> What file do i need to make wma songs play?
[04:58] <pip> where does kget stoage its files downloaded
[04:58] <oli> erUSUL : i've gksudo edited the file
[04:58] <npster> mansfeld: go Control Panel > Administration Tools (i think)
[04:58] <oli> but it still restes
[04:58] <repete_> mansfeld; the laptop was running ubuntu?
[04:58] <|_SpY_|> i try to use a iptables rules... but when i use iptables -L .. he return no rules... why? why iptables not record the rules?
[04:58] <erUSUL> ubuntu: it is the third time (and last) that i told you to read some docs
[04:58] <ubuntu> i did
[04:58] <erUSUL> !wma > ubuntu
[04:58] <ubuntu> but i dont have the files
[04:59] <mansfeld> repete_: laptop was running windows, and his desktop (that he's trying to backup to) too
[04:59] <npster> Really, how can you re size a NTFS partition?
[04:59] <ubuntu> i checked but dont have em
[04:59] <cube> repete, i was using debian etch means testing
[04:59] <grinder> anyone care to help me?
[04:59] <azathoth> npster: defrag the drive, then use a partition tool like gparted or partition manager or something
[04:59] <repete_> ubuntu; http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[04:59] <mansfeld> repete_: he's downloading the Ubuntu livecd in case we don't manage to fix it.. since at least I know I can help him with that
[04:59] <grinder> help please
[04:59] <grinder> how do it format drives?
[04:59] <peter__> Can you help me with Evolution?
[04:59] <SV452> can someone tell me the idea behind repositories ???
[04:59] <grinder> from the desktop cd
[04:59] <pip> where does kget stoage its files downloaded
[05:00] <oli> erUSUL : it is set to nameserver atm
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> grinder,  mkfs.XXXX command to format a PARTITION
[05:00] <azathoth> SV452: repos are places where all the packages for a debian system get stored and accessed... it's as simple as that
[05:00] <grinder> probably the set directory, pip
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> grinder,  fdisk command to partition a drive.
[05:00] <oli> erUSUL : is that what i want, or should i change it to domain?
[05:00] <SV452> while on the topic does evolution support http over rcp or something like that?
[05:00] <grinder> how do i use the fdisk command?
[05:00] <grinder> and i want to format it entirelz
[05:00] <azathoth> gparted is usually installed on live cd's tho...
[05:00] <grinder> change the file system
[05:00] <pip> grinder, I just downloaded a files for 2 hours ,but now I can't see it
[05:00] <SV452> so repos is ur cd's away from your cd rom
[05:01] <grinder> go under settings
[05:01] <opexoc> hi. I have terrible problem. When I try to run ubuntu from disk it stop working while booting when screen display: "Checking all filesystems. dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, Fat32". My computer only stop and do nothing. When I try to run Windows on this same computer... Windows stops while booting. When I want to run Live CD. It stops while booting, when displays: "Starting Enterprise Volume Managament System". When I want reinstall Wind
[05:01] <opexoc> opexoc ows... I can't because when some drivers are loading... the computer stops. I should tell that before this problem appears. I want to try boot linux from diskette. So I use "rdev" command on my image of kernel and I formatted diskette and next copy this image on it. When I try boot from this diskiette. It crashes displays something like "I should change my disk" or whatever. Nextly I booted from disk and this problem occured. I really
[05:01] <opexoc>  need help. I don't know what should I do. I can add that when my computer stop then I hear some sound from maybe disk.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> grinder,  use a fdisk tool of you choice and change the partition type..  gparted is nice.
[05:01] <grinder> okay thanks
[05:01] <opexoc> sorry
[05:01] <secleinteer> hey, does anyone know if all these upgrades that have popped up are safe?
[05:01] <ubuntu> repte
[05:01] <secleinteer> aka, not like last time with xorg
[05:01] <ubuntu> =\
[05:01] <azathoth> SV452: well they are better than that... they have thousands of packages for just about everything, you can pick and choose what you want to download and install
[05:01] <ubuntu> its just 1 ez q
[05:01] <ubuntu> where do i paste  the code to run easy ubuntu
[05:02] <azathoth> ubuntu: did you read the website?
[05:02] <repete_> ubuntu; there should be full instructions on the site
[05:02] <orbin> secleinteer: i haven't had an available upgrade for a while now
[05:02] <ubuntu> on the downloading section?
[05:02] <opexoc> hi. I have terrible problem. When I try to run ubuntu from disk it stop working while booting when screen display: "Checking all filesystems. dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, Fat32". My computer only stop and do nothing. When I try to run Windows on this same computer... Windows stops while booting. When I want to run Live CD. It stops while booting, when displays: "Starting Enterprise Volume Managament System". When I want reinstall Windows... I
[05:02] <opexoc> can't because when some drivers are loading... the computer stops. I should tell that before this problem appeared I want to try boot linux from diskette. So I use "rdev" command on my image of kernel and I formatted diskette and next copy this image on it. When I try boot from this diskiette. It crashes displays something like "I should change my disk" or whatever. Nextly I booted from disk and this problem occured. I really need help. I do
[05:02] <opexoc> n't know what should I do. I can add that when my computer stop then I hear some sound from maybe disk.
[05:02] <azathoth> jeebus
[05:02] <azathoth> opexoc: stop the spamming please
[05:03] <HeXiOn> hello
[05:03] <azathoth> ubuntu: please read the website, use common literacy to figure out where the instructions are... and yes, they are on the download page
[05:03] <sethk> opexoc, you have a serious hardware problem.  I'm not sure what to tell you to do about it
[05:03] <SV452> azathoth:  atleast my idea was close enough - installed ubuntu on friday and has had nothing but fun setting it up the whole w/end ... i almost love it more than slack... !!! :D
[05:03] <opexoc> azathoth: sorry but the first time I press enter badly...
[05:03] <HeXiOn> I made a HOWTO to compile 2.6.16 kernel in dapper (backported from edgy). If someone wants to try, check this url: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1457121#post1457121   I hope this is usefull for somebody :)
[05:03] <sethk> opexoc, sounds like both your floppy and hard drives are messed up
[05:03] <HeXiOn> I made a HOWTO to compile 2.6.17 kernel in dapper (backported from edgy). If someone wants to try, check this url: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1457121#post1457121   I hope this is usefull for somebody :)
[05:03] <erUSUL> oli: i have my resolv.conf pointing to localhost becouse i have bind running as mandated by the ubuntu-desktop package. if i told yopu the truth it just works for me (tm) and i do not know why is failing in your case
[05:04] <azathoth> SV452: i prefer the repos, so i'm not stuck with pre-installed packages and can customise my distro how i like it
[05:04] <azathoth> it's also easier to setup and distribute with only one cd
[05:04] <opexoc> sethk: :( really? I appeared suddenly...
[05:04] <opexoc> sethk: it appeared suddenly...
[05:04] <azathoth> like a ghost?
[05:04] <azathoth> heh
[05:05] <peabody> Where the heck is the linux-image deb file in the repositories???
[05:05] <lfhb> hi there when I  click on this like for bbc viedeo the embedded player buffers and does not play anything please help http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/help/3681938.stm
[05:05] <SV452> azathoth: that is too true - hehehe - when i first asked after ubuntu and was told 1 or 2 cd's max i was a bit sceptical ... heheheh - what a nice surprise i got ... hehehehehe - it seems that keeping it up to date seems to be no problem either ....
[05:05] <NIK0> Hi all, i'm french
[05:05] <azathoth> peabody: search for linux-image :)
[05:05] <peabody> I need reinstall my kernel package, and I can't find the deb anywhere!!!!
[05:06] <peabody> azathoth: Gee whiz thanks, you frickin' think I'd be here if I hadn't done that!
[05:06] <opexoc> sethk: but it is weird beacuse everything is loading to some moment...
[05:06] <azathoth> SV452: yeah, it's one of the best things about ubuntu, and debian in general... keeping your system in working condition is simple and fast
[05:06] <cesc> hi folks. I've just installed Ubuntu and I have some problems with the sound device. It works but producing a fuzzy, metallic sound. setting stuff in alsamixer or in aumix won't work. xmms seems to be using the OSS plugin but it still produces this bad quality sound
[05:06] <azathoth> peabody: well you obviously haven't, as i just searched and foudn it straight away...
[05:06] <peabody> azathoth: link?
[05:06] <cesc> lsmod | grep snd    shows appropriate drivers, but anyway it doesn't quite work
[05:07] <azathoth> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all&keywords=linux-image&sourceid=mozilla-search
[05:08] <azathoth> peabody: you're welcome :)
[05:08] <easytiger> how does one get sound to work in realplay plugins.... it plays the video but the sound is broken
[05:08] <NIK0> Someone have 'gspca.ko' installed on his distro' ? "The latest kernel module for webcam spca5xx " ?
[05:08] <orbin> cesc: just a stab: checked PCM level in vol. control?
[05:08] <orbin> if it's too high it caused sitortion on my other box
[05:08] <cesc> orbin, uhum and it has no effect whatsoever :(
[05:09] <tmorton> Any clue why running xauth would give me this message?  /usr/bin/xauth:  error in locking authority file ~/.Xauthority  /usr/bin/xauth:  error in locking authority file ~/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
[05:09] <NIK0> if you have compile GSPCAV1 driver can you send me gspca.ko please, thanks
[05:09] <SV452> azathoth: tell me - i managed to get evolution working on our companies webmail to get mail but is there a way i can have it work like outlook withing the company network??? instead of doing https://webmail.blah.co.za i can do just the name of our MX server
[05:10] <peabody> azathoth: Thank you for the link, however I DID look for the package.  It's rude to say things like "you obviously didn't".  I do appreciate this however.  FYI, I was looking in the repository itself, not the package listing.  I know better now.
[05:10] <azathoth> no clue, i don't use it sorry... have a check on the forums...
[05:10] <SV452> azathoth: thought i might take a chance - hehehehhe
[05:11] <elisardo> HALO?
[05:12] <SV452> azathoth:  basically what i am trying to get to is that if i can use ubuntu and manage to work all my software the same as in M$ i might convince my IT Manager to let me use linux instead of M$
[05:12] <orbin> tmorton: OOI, why are you running it?
[05:12] <azathoth> SV452: well as i say, check the forums... or the evolution wiki
[05:12] <SV452> yip yip
[05:12] <SV452> hehehehe
[05:12] <sethk> SV452, no, that isn't practical, it will never happen
[05:13] <tmorton> orbin, Actually I'm not running it, but someone reported a bug in Autopackage where it was giving that message even when they just ran xauth from the shell
[05:13] <tmorton> using Dapper
[05:13] <ompaul> NIK0, it does not work like that you need to compile the kernel with the correct modules enabled
[05:13] <ompaul> !compile > NIK0
[05:13] <tmorton> One of our devs can't reproduce it with their dapper setup(s) tho
[05:13] <NIK0> yes
[05:13] <elisardo> halo
[05:13] <tmorton> so I was wondering if anyone else could
[05:14] <SV452> so far the only thing not working on linux is out inhouse software which i don't mind since i have no need for it - there is already 3 other people in the company using only linux and not windows - guess where i got ubuntu from ?
[05:14] <SV452> out = our
[05:14] <sKuarecircle> hey guys, antbody know who to play mp3's in ubuntu?
[05:14] <sethk> tmorton, you can copy the .Xauthority file from the user to root's home and get rid of that error
[05:14] <NIK0> ompaul how to compile the kernel with correct module ?
[05:14] <|_SpY_|> i try to use a iptables rules... but when i use iptables -L .. he return no rules... why? why iptables not record the rules?
[05:14] <TLE> !tell sKuarecircle about restricted
[05:14] <ompaul> NIK0,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[05:14] <sethk> tmorton, actually, it isn't an error at all, it is reporting that a file isn't there, and the reason is that the file isn't there
[05:14] <azathoth> sKuarecircle: easyubuntu
[05:14] <NIK0> ok
[05:14] <NIK0> thks
[05:14] <ompaul> NIK0, you need to follow that set of instructions
[05:14] <tmorton> sethk, But why i there not a file there? Shoudn't xauth create it after it's been run once?
[05:15] <azathoth> !easyubuntu > sKuarecircle
[05:15] <sKuarecircle> what restricted, and easybuntu, i have been running ubuntu for about 30 minutes now, that s my total linux experience
[05:15] <sethk> tmorton, I'm not certain what the correct behavior is, but it's reasonable to suppose that it was changed because this current behavior is correct
[05:15] <NIK0> I try it
[05:15] <tmorton> huh? More debian patching?
[05:16] <tmorton> sethk, Also, the command is being run as user, so copying from user to root's home doesn't seem like it would do anything
[05:16] <tmorton> :?
[05:16] <jjjjjjj> howdy.
[05:16] <sethk> tmorton, the man page for xauth is interesting
[05:16] <|_SpY_|> i try to use a iptables rules... but when i use iptables -L .. he return no rules... why? why iptables not record the rules?
[05:17] <jjjjjjj> i installed ubuntu 5.10 from an old cd and would like to change the install to edubuntu.   i can do this via apt-get no?
[05:17] <sethk> tmorton, it really depends on the X authorization mechanism currently configured
[05:17] <neutrinomass> How can I prevent my computer from actually turning off when halting ? (i.e. to make it stop at the "System Halted" message )
[05:18] <neutrinomass> I have to pass some kernel parameter, but I'm not sure which ...
[05:18] <sethk> tmorton, for a normal user, then it would be copying from the default Xauthority to the user's $HOME/.Xauthority
[05:18] <ompaul> neutrinomass, try wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[05:18] <sethk> tmorton, and that should not be done automatically, because the use may not want a private .Xauthority
[05:18] <neutrinomass> ompaul: Ty
[05:19] <sethk> tmorton, the man page reads like the behavior is dependent on the value of env variable XAUTHORITY
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> neutrinomass,  normally people are trying to do that Opposite of that :P
[05:19] <sethk> tmorton, so perhaps that value has changed.
[05:19] <ompaul> neutrinomass, well you have to be looked after :)
[05:19] <neutrinomass> Dr_Willis: I know but I'm trying to debug something :P
[05:19] <tmorton> sethk, But ubuntu doesn't have it set to anything weird by default, right?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> neutrinomass,  perhaps the no apci, or noapic, or noapm options
[05:20] <tmorton> Also, that var only controls the name of the file, which is obviously already set to ~/.Xauthority
[05:20] <sethk> tmorton, no
[05:20] <neutrinomass> I tried 'noacpi' but it didn't help so I'm rather confused :-/ I was quite sure that was the option ...
[05:20] <sethk> tmorton, there is a default .Xauthority file.  the user _may_, but does not necessarily have to create a private $HOME/.Xauthority
[05:21] <sethk> tmorton, they are following the normal unix configuration paradigm whereby there is a system wide default, and you can create a private copy and change the default
[05:21] <tmorton> sethk, right, that makes sense
[05:22] <peabody> azathoth:  Thank you very much for that link. I'm sorry if I came across grumpy.  Been a long morning.  My wireless is working again.
[05:22] <tmorton> sethk, Can I ask you to run xauth from the command line and see if it gives you any error?
[05:22] <jimmygoon> Is teardown being implemented in edgy?
[05:22] <sethk> tmorton, sure, but I'm running breezy.
[05:22] <azathoth> peabody: not a prob, glad you got it all sorted :)
[05:22] <ompaul> jimmygoon, ask in the edgy channel, #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <jimmygoon> ompaul : thanks )
[05:23] <tmorton> sethk, ahh, ok... but if you wouldn't mind, it be nice :)
[05:23] <sethk> tmorton, it does not, but I have a file $HOME/.Xauthority.  I'll rename it, see what xauth does
[05:23] <victoras> hi
[05:23] <sethk> tmorton, interesting.
[05:24] <tmorton> sethk, error?
[05:24] <sethk> tmorton, if I rename my .Xauthority, xauth does not display an error, but xauto also does _not_ create the .Xauthority file
[05:24] <tmorton> hmm, interesting
[05:24] <sethk> tmorton, it prints a message saying it is creating it, but no file is created
[05:25] <sethk> tmorton, so I may be correct, and it's been fixed, or at least perhaps deliberately changed
[05:25] <victoras> hei lets chat please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:25] <SV452> azathoth: i did the whole ntfs-3g thing and yet i can't mount my ntfs drives since it says only root can mount them
[05:25] <tmorton> yeah, same for me
[05:25] <lfhb> how do i make streaming video work on ubuntu?
[05:25] <ompaul> !offtopic
[05:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:25] <jimmygoon> lfhb : what kind of streaming video?
[05:25] <azathoth> SV452: sudo mount -a
[05:25] <tmorton> sethk, it may be because we didn't give xauth any commands
[05:25] <sKuarecircle> victoras what do you want to chat about hey?????
[05:25] <lfhb> I  am trying to view bbc news
[05:26] <lfhb> system buffers but does not play in firefox
[05:26] <lfhb> i think its real media stream
[05:26] <neutrinomass> nah... noacpi decidedly doesn't help
[05:26] <mansu> has anyone suceesed in running beagle on dapper with reiserfs as the file system? does user_attr work for reiserfs4 also?
[05:27] <SV452> azathoth: when i go directly file system then my mount folders i get my drives yet when i go computer or my desktop they r not there
[05:27] <BHSPitRemotey> hey, really need some help...
[05:27] <Healot> !ask
[05:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:28] <azathoth> SV452: your drives are being mounted as root instead of as user... check your fstab
[05:28] <sethk> tmorton, maybe, but if so, the message is very misleading
[05:28] <BHSPitRemotey> grub just plain won't work here, I've installed it to hda's MBR countless time, but when I boot it just says "BOOT DISK FAILURE. INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND...". I've installed grub to a USB flashdrive, and I'm able to successfully boot with it plugged in, but I need grub to work from the hard drive. help!
[05:29] <SV452> azathoth: can i paste one line from my fstab?
[05:29] <jimmygoon> BHSPitRemotey: Is it grub giving you that message or your BIOS?
[05:29] <johnnyg> good morning! anytime I run "sudo" I get the error message "sudo: unable to lookup johnny-laptop via gethostbyname()"
[05:29] <azathoth> SV452: sure, but only one line
[05:29] <BHSPitRemotey> jimmygoon, the BIOS
[05:29] <jimmygoon> I think your HD is not set as ACTIVE thus your computer isn't even loading grub
[05:29] <jimmygoon> you need to use the Live CD and set the partition as "active"
[05:29] <SV452> "/dev/hda3       /media/hda3     ntfs-3g     silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8,no_def_opts,allow_other  0       0"
[05:29] <tmorton> sethk, What does xauth list give?
[05:30] <sethk> tmorton, let me try
[05:30] <jimmygoon> you can do that with the Dapper LiveCD or the SysRescueCD or (probably) wit hthe super grub disc or the gparted live disc
[05:30] <azathoth> hmmm...
[05:30] <BHSPitRemotey> jimmygoon, set which partition as "active"? wouldn't that be irrelevant?
[05:30] <sKuarecircle> hey gusys on the amarok site, do i pick the Kubuntu download, i am running ubunti 6.06
[05:30] <SV452> unless i just reboot?
[05:30] <BHSPitRemotey> I'm going for the mbr here
[05:30] <azathoth> SV452: put your fstab on pastebin and paste the link here
[05:31] <jimmygoon> no. Your BIOS demands that the first partiton (the one with the MBR and the one with GRUB) be set to active
[05:31] <sethk> tmorton, with no .Xauthority file, just the message about creating the file.
[05:31] <lfhb> I cannot play http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/help/3681938.stm in firefox system buffers and stops help
[05:31] <SV452> pastebin?
[05:31] <jimmygoon> see, its trying to find something to boot or load and it needs to find grub
[05:31] <azathoth> SV452: you did sudo modprobe fuse and all that yeah?
[05:31] <sethk> tmorton, with the file, it lists what you expect it to list
[05:31] <azathoth> SV452: read the topic
[05:31] <jimmygoon> but its only looking for active partitions to try to load from
[05:31] <SV452> azathoth: let me try modprobe thing again
[05:32] <tmorton> sethk, 'k
[05:32] <BHSPitRemotey> jimmygoon, well, my root partition isn't the first partition on the disk... however, it IS active
[05:32] <jimmygoon> hmm
[05:32] <jimmygoon> what is your first parititon/
[05:33] <SV452> azathoth: i followed the guide step by step
[05:33] <johnnyg> I can not run any application that requires root, nor can i run "sudo apt-get update" or any sudo command becuase I get the error "sudo: unable to lookup johnny-laptop via gethostbyname()"
[05:33] <tmorton> sethk, yeah, xauth is a lying bastard
[05:33] <azathoth> SV452: try this one instead then: http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/howto-write-to-windows-ntfs-drive-from-ubuntu-ntfs-3g/
[05:33] <tmorton> taj@moria:~$ mv ~/.Xauthority old-xauth
[05:33] <tmorton> taj@moria:~$ xauth info
[05:33] <tmorton> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/taj/.Xauthority
[05:33] <tmorton> Authority file:       /home/taj/.Xauthority
[05:34] <tmorton> but it's not created
[05:34] <SV452> azathoth: here u go :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d22438
[05:35] <BHSPitRemotey> jimmygoon, hmm... the first partition is unallocated... it was left that way in case we wanted to install windows later on down the road.
[05:35] <BHSPitRemotey> do I need to add a (blank) partition there
[05:35] <juan> can i restart x without constanly loging out/in
[05:36] <azathoth> SV452: this is my ntfs line: /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_IE.utf8 0 0
[05:36] <azathoth> try that (with IE changed to US of course, and hdd locations)
[05:36] <Healot> Alt+Ctrl+Backspace >> juan
[05:37] <burhan> johnnyg: what does you /etc/hosts file say?
[05:37] <SV452> azathoth: cool - give me a minute
[05:37] <BHSPitRemotey> jimmygoon, afk?
[05:37] <jimmygoon> I don't know what afk means... but I would still recommend trying to set that partition as active
[05:37] <burhan> afk = away from keyboard
[05:37] <BHSPitRemotey> away from keyboard
[05:38] <BHSPitRemotey> jimmygoon, did you read my previous message/question?
[05:38] <Healot> was thinking of the infamous F word
[05:38] <parag0n> i'm trying to delete all files called Thumbs.db in my entire HDD
[05:38] <jimmygoon> the bit about windows in the future?
[05:38] <parag0n> sudo rm `find ./ | grep Thumbs.db` is what i was going to use,  but directories with spaces break it
[05:38] <vapermonkey00> what v. of linux is best for slow pc like a p3
[05:38] <jimmygoon> setting it active won't prevent you from doing that
[05:38] <BHSPitRemotey> yeah, the fact that there's no partition at the beginning of the disk
[05:38] <BHSPitRemotey> it's unallocated space right now
[05:38] <parag0n> vapermonkey00, i'd use debian
[05:38] <parag0n> or xubuntu might run OK
[05:38] <zebedee> hi all do i have to type something into terminal to enable/mount my cd/rw the pc's bios wont pick it up dell opti gx150 will it just not work it bios is unaware of its presence
[05:39] <vapermonkey00> that is what i have on it
[05:39] <wasabi_> parag0n: find -name Thumbs.db -exec rm '{}' ';'
[05:39] <vapermonkey00> and ubuntu on the other
[05:39] <jimmygoon> BHSPitRemotey : OH! Its actually NOT a partiotn... just empty space
[05:39] <jimmygoon> er... hmm
[05:39] <jimmygoon> hm
[05:39] <Juhaz> vapermonkey00, ram is more important than CPU, P3 should run just about anything fine, given enough memory
[05:39] <jimmygoon> Have you tried installing grub to the partition that you have ubuntu on ...?
[05:39] <parag0n> thanks wasabi_, that worked perfectly
[05:40] <BHSPitRemotey> jimmygoon, I'm not sure that I have.
[05:40] <vapermonkey00> there is 256 in the slow one
[05:40] <IIIEars> vapermonkey00 - xubuntu, ubuntuliite, puppylinux, damn small linux, are all good choices.
[05:40] <johnnyg> burhan: what should my hosts file say?
[05:40] <HeathenDan> i don't know if ubuntu can detect a device that the system bios doesn't even detect/recognize
[05:40] <BHSPitRemotey> jimmygoon, I'm going to reboot and see what it does now. be right back.
[05:41] <jimmygoon> BHSPitRemotey: I dunna, you threw me off with the "unallocated space thing" ... All I was working off of was when I reloaded my dad's Winblows computer I had to go back in afterwrads and set the partition as active because the refresh disc forgot to or soemthign
[05:41] <vapermonkey00> ty
[05:41] <sonium> can someone tell me why my wlan card doesn't work with kernel 2.6.15-26 but works with -25 ?
[05:41] <sc0tch> Question: I just installed the Sun JRE 5.0 runtime thru synaptic, but when I run java -v it still reports 1.4.2 do i need to manually configure something?
[05:42] <DBO> sonium, do you have the linux-restricted-modules installed in your 2.6.15-26 kernel?
[05:42] <sonium> DB0: yes, I have installed restricted modules for both kernels
[05:43] <azathoth> SV452: any luck?
[05:44] <ivan_> hi i need help about sound
[05:44] <ivan_> i have system sound going on but can play a CD
[05:44] <SV452> azathoth: here is a screenshot - still no luck : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22439
[05:44] <ivan_> wat should I do?
[05:44] <ivan_> sorry i mean i can't play a CD
[05:45] <Qball> SV452: add "user" to the options of the disk you want to mount
[05:45] <juan> when does x start?
[05:45] <azathoth> SV452: and doing a modprobe fuse && sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[05:45] <azathoth> did that work?
[05:46] <SV452> where do i add user??
[05:46] <IIIEars> jaun - is x started from /etc/init.d/gdm ?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> SV452,  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume  has examples of the user option
[05:47] <IIIEars> jaun - did you just want to restart X display manager?  - "startx" in a terminal
[05:47] <IIIEars> Hi Dr_Willis
[05:48] <juan> will that always work? i typed it in before and nothing happend
[05:48] <Tyr_L> Windows ate my grub, how do I get it back?
[05:49] <IIIEars> !grub
[05:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> I think the next release needs a auto-fix my grub entry on the live cd.
[05:49] <IIIEars> Tyr_L - Windows is hoggish that way - lol
[05:49] <IIIEars> Dr_Willis - That would be genius.
[05:49] <bluefox83> Tyr_L, pop the ubuntu cd in, chroot into the drive and run the grub install script
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> IIIEars,  ive seen it done with Other disrtos.
[05:50] <juan> my problem is that when im login in my 2nd display is broken, when i start and use gnome or xfce it works but when i start kde its broken like when im login in, any idea what config i need to change
[05:50] <bluefox83> Dr_Willis, it's not hard to fix, why should there be an auto repair util?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> juan,  perhaps theres some  kde setting to fix that.
[05:50] <azathoth> i didn't need to add a user tho, fuseutils automatically added the fuse group for me on install
[05:51] <SV452> azathoth: here is a new one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22441 - hmmm
[05:51] <jimmygoon> bluefox83 : whati s chroot'ing... because when I fixed my grub after widnwos I just mounted my ubuntu as the root and then grub-install'ed
[05:51] <SV452> i am going to reboot quickly
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> bluefox83,  if its so easy then why NOT put it on there.. and save us the time of explaining how to 'chroot' to beginners. :P
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> and it can be hard to fix. :P
[05:51] <in54no> hi, have a player to play videos in theora codec?
[05:51] <Tyr_L> thanx peeps
[05:51] <greg> do u guys live on irc?
[05:51] <iceman> what Distro will install in Windows and runs using qemu ?
[05:51] <maxime> i have problems with my inspiron 9300 and ati mobility x300 together with ubuntu, i get a black screen after booting and computer freezes up completely, any ideas?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> iceman,  the qemu site has links to allready made qemu images for many disrtos.
[05:52] <greg> iceman: i think damsmalllinux does
[05:52] <azathoth> why are you mounting as 'user'?
[05:52] <azathoth> in your options?
[05:52] <iceman> maxime you notebook have a SVGA plug on the back
[05:52] <johnnyg> what should my /etc/hosts file contain? right now it just has one line "# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts" and when I run any sudo command I get "sudo: unable to lookup johnny-laptop via gethostbyname()"
[05:52] <iceman> greg dsl was the distro i was looking for
[05:52] <SV452> azathoth: where else should i ut it ???
[05:52] <qiangjiqing> hi, is there some user of ubuntu on macbook?
[05:53] <iceman> Dr_Willis thanks will look there also
[05:53] <SV452> ut - put
[05:53] <qiangjiqing> my network manager doesn't work correctly
[05:53] <azathoth> well i don't need user in my fstab
[05:53] <qiangjiqing> can someone help me?
[05:53] <maxime> iceman, no svga i think
[05:53] <greg>  iceman: damsmalllinux.org
[05:53] <iceman> maxime you got a Plug on back where you can plug in a monitor?
[05:53] <greg> downlAD THE EMBED ONE
[05:54] <greg> ugh capslock:(
[05:54] <maxime> yes iceman
[05:54] <SV452> brb
[05:54] <miyumi> Can someone help me create the apt/preferences file?
[05:54] <iceman> maxime check you bios, linux may be trying to boot to that video port
[05:54] <greg> can i diable the capslock key?
[05:54] <azathoth> i have my capslock as another ctrl :)
[05:55] <azathoth> in the 'keyboard' option in the system preferences
[05:55] <FurryNemesis> does anyone know how to get NVTV working?
[05:55] <greg> k then how do i change it?
[05:56] <iceman> maxime only thing i can think of, i run in to that in a lot of systems, "Dell" Compaq" al try to boot to the Onboard card, then i have to go install my nvidia drivers, and reboot to the add on card
[05:56] <baconbacon> greg ... check the keyboard prefs
[05:56] <maxime> okay, so i need to install the latest ati drivers, however i don't have access to a prompt?
[05:56] <miyumi> does anyone know how to create apt/preferences? I can't seem to get permission...
[05:56] <IIIEars> johnnyg - Can i fall back five yards and punt away?   try installing firestarter firewall. - (crosses fingers)
[05:57] <iceman> maxime got a monitor, plug it in
[05:57] <maxime> k
[05:58] <visik7> ubuntu rocks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DhOt_5NXA
[05:58] <Clawfinger> Hey, I forgot my password to Ubuntu.. I hadn't been on for a long time because my modem didn't work with it and now I have a wireless router.. i was wondering if anyone could help me out, I don't want to have to reinstall
[05:58] <irpyC> hello :)
[05:58] <jimmygoon> Clawfinger: recovery mode
[05:59] <Clawfinger> that just goes to
[05:59] <scentless> hello im trying to play an hd 720p movie on ubuntu daper with vlc, but no success, can you advice me on what to do?
[05:59] <thadocta> hi all :)
[05:59] <Clawfinger> root@ubuntu# and stays there
[05:59] <punk> is there a probkem with the current versoin of flash?  I just installed ubuntu and thats about the only thing I can't get working.
[05:59] <IIIEars> Clawfinger - ouch, - wonder if ubotu knows anything.
[05:59] <IIIEars> !password
[05:59] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[06:00] <Clawfinger> !sudo
[06:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:00] <maxime> iceman, doesn't work
[06:00] <greg> maxime: whats wrong?
[06:00] <glassbits> i am installing Ubuntu 6.06 on my friends PC and i have updated my own system just an hour ago, can i copy all those packages from var/apt/cache to his pc's folder and update his system as well ?
[06:01] <iceman> maxime, may require a reinstall, ubuntu hate duel video, i always have to if i forget to install using the onboard, then reconfigure...
[06:01] <baconbacon> Clawfinger:  Once in recovery mode you change the password  for your sudoing user "passwd bacon" or for root "passwd root"
[06:01] <maxime> i think it's my ati mobility x300
[06:01] <iceman> only thing i like about Knoppix, it look and installs to the Nvidia card, reguardless
[06:01] <maxime> many more have issues with ubuntu
[06:02] <quovadis_a> hi !
[06:02] <scentless> uhm hd 720p on ubuntu, anyone?
[06:02] <SV452> back
[06:02] <glassbits> i am installing Ubuntu 6.06 on my friends PC and i have updated my own system just an hour ago, can i copy all those packages from var/apt/cache to his pc's folder and update his system as well ?
[06:03] <scentless> glassbits: yes you can.
[06:03] <iceman> maxime once you get Ubuntu installed and running, it has way better support than about any distro out there
[06:03] <glassbits> scentless, thts great! thanks
[06:03] <maxime> yes once
[06:03] <punk> is there a problem with the current versoin of flash?  I just installed ubuntu and thats about the only thing I can't get working.
[06:04] <SV452> how come mine is /var/cache/apt/archives?
[06:04] <scentless> its var/cache/apt/archives
[06:04] <baconbacon> glassbits: im sending you a script to backup/restore apt cache
[06:04] <mopflite> SV452: so is mine
[06:04] <iceman> maxime, then if your a linux guru, you could boot to command line and install the drivers
[06:04] <baconbacon> http://pastebin.ca/159850
[06:05] <azathoth> SV452: does your stuff mount yet?
[06:05] <glassbits> SV452, sorry wrong path ! :)
[06:05] <secleinteer> !ubotu md5sums
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md5sums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <SV452> glassbits: no worries - hehehe
[06:05] <glassbits> baconbacon, thanks mate! :)
[06:05] <secleinteer> does any1 know how to use the md5sums file with a ubuntu iso download?
[06:05] <SV452> azathoth: they do mount but not with computer bits
[06:05] <secleinteer> !ubotu md5sum
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md5sum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <SV452> i can go to the mount point and use my ntfs drives
[06:05] <azathoth> huh?
[06:05] <scentless> im trying to play hd 720p video on my ubuntu but it doesnt work, with vlc at least, any tips?
[06:06] <baconbacon> glassbits: it will overwrite apt config, so you restore the sources.list too
[06:06] <punk> !flash
[06:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:07] <glassbits> baconbacon, if it overwrites apt config. what will be the consequences
[06:07] <berkit> why can't my computer find the ubuntu cd when i try to boot from it? i've tried several different cd burning programs, but none of them can make it work
[06:08] <IIIEars> scen tless - vlc is awesomely powerful - hm - if ubuntu's display is using 720 got to wonder what is available through vlc commandline interface
[06:08] <scentless> IIIEars: im trying with vlc, doesn't work... just plays 1-2 seconds and exists
have 2 burn .iso
[06:09] <bulio> can I upgrade from ubuntu 4.10 right to ubuntu 6.06?\
[06:09] <IIIEars> scentless - How do you check the log entry for errors?  - could strace be helpful?
[06:09] <GameCat> can someone tell me how to change the nvidia kernel module?
[06:09] <ivan_> hi how do i play a cd?
[06:10] <ivan_> i cant get sound from a cd?
[06:10] <glassbits> baconbacon, if it overwrites apt config what will happen ?
[06:10] <ivan_> something is wrong?
[06:10] <SV452> what does modprobe fuse do??
[06:10] <berkit> quovadis_a that's what i do
[06:10] <jbroome> ivan_: is the cable going from your cdrom to your sound card hooked up?
[06:10] <solsTiCe> how can i see the subtitles of a srt file with totem ?
[06:10] <wulax> neat, i just got xgl working :) http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3425
[06:10] <ivan_> im using a notebook but i do hear system sounds coming from the speaker but not cd
[06:10] <iceman> !xgl
[06:10] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:10] <bulio> anyone?
[06:11] <chema10> !xgl
Bios = boot CD ?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> bulio,  egads.. best to just download the latest version and do a reinstall
[06:11] <solsTiCe> soft for dumbs is cool except when you can't do anything with it
[06:11] <baconbacon> glassbits, you lose you sources.list
[06:11] <iceman> anyone quick url to forums "XGL" info ?
[06:11] <bulio> Dr_Willis: no more blank cds
[06:11] <berkit> quovadis_a yes, and it says "no operating system found press f1 to repeat boot sequence"
[06:11] <GameCat> can someone tell me how to change the nvidia kernel module? I can't change from nvidia-glx-legacy to nvidia-glx as X complains about the wrong kernel module
[06:12] <glassbits> baconbacon, so i will just have to backup my sources.list
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> bulio,   why is it when i give people an answer.. they always come back with some excuse. :P   if you cant get the latest cd.. then i guess ya got to take a risk..  good luck.. or go buy some blank cds
ok but did u bios boot in CD at first ?
[06:12] <wulax> iceman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> bulio,  :P
[06:12] <IIIEars> Dr_Willis - Can you use grub to boot from an iso file image stored on the hd?
[06:12] <iceman> walax thanks
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> IIIEars,  not that i have ever seen
[06:13] <glassbits> IIIEars, yes its possible , google for it
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> IIIEars,  i recall ages ago RH and som eothers had sort of that feature.. but never used it.
[06:13] <iceman> got to discover xgl, whats the hype ?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> but i think they stopped using that installmethid.
[06:13] <greg> does anyone kno how to use vmplayer?
[06:13] <berkit> quovadis_a yes
[06:13] <glassbits> IIIEars, i think you have to place those iso's on a filesystem readable by grub
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> IIIEars,   http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/30216  mentions it..
[06:14] <kevin1> Has anyone been succesful in getting audio to work in vmware?  I have read the forums and tried everything... I really need to get audio working in my VM... Any help?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> shows how fancy grub can be. :P
[06:14] <IIIEars> cool link
[06:14] <baconbacon> glassbits: usually youd want to use the backuped(sp) one
 u burn it whith ? md5s ok ?
[06:14] <greg> kevin1: i have but it just automatically worked
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> oh wait.. the guy has that problem.. but no fix shown. :P
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> silly google.. to the NEXT hit!
[06:15] <UnkwnTech> can anyone help me get the realtek 8139 working on 6.06
[06:15] <kevin1> greg,  I've tried everything... been through like 6 different posting on forums
[06:15] <baconbacon> glassbits: i was just saying if you have customized sources.list the backup one will replace
[06:15] <berkit> quovadis_a nero and cdburner xp pro 3, and md5s is ok
[06:15] <SanketMedhi> does anyone here know how to configure Dancer IRCd ?
[06:15] <glassbits> baconbacon, ohh!
[06:16] <kevin1> greg,  I've killed all esd and still nothing
[06:16] <greg> kevin1: my audio works but my internet doesnt
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> IIIEars,  here we go!  http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11796    that looks good
is it an old pc ?
[06:16] <sethk> UnkwnTech, that's usually autodetected and just works
[06:16] <kevin1> greg,  were exactly opposite
[06:16] <sethk> UnkwnTech, what problem are you having?
[06:16] <berkit> quovadis_a no two-three years old
[06:16] <IIIEars> Dr_Willis - knoppix tohd -
[06:16] <UnkwnTech> Ubuntu detects the card but will not obtain an IP and static does not work
[06:16] <Powerbook`> Does anyone know *about* how long it takes to get a shipit order of ubuntu?
[06:16] <kevin1> greg,  since i am using wireless, I had to use nat inside vmware... the bridge feature doesn't work with wireless
[06:17] <Healot> Powerbook`, that depends on where you are
so it may be a bad .iso burn => try again ?
[06:17] <greg> i hav direct connection no router o anything
[06:17] <sethk> UnkwnTech, there are a couple of different versions you can try, the "too" version and the older version
[06:17] <glassbits> baconbacon, are you writing the script yourself ?
[06:17] <sethk> UnkwnTech, usually, if one doesn't work, the other will
[06:17] <iceman> I still want to use linux on a freaking mac .
[06:17] <zeus> Powerbook`: russia - 3-5 weeks
[06:17] <berkit> quovadis_a i've tried 4-5 times to burn it but it doesn't work
[06:17] <UnkwnTech> how do i find out what i am using and then how do i change it
[06:18] <sethk> UnkwnTech, that's probably the most popular lan chip there is, so it would be very strange if one of the available 8139 interfaces didn't take care of the problem for you.
[06:18] <Healot> berkit, checked the iso checksum yet?
[06:18] <looktj> Windows leaves holes open on purpose, it sucks, and everyone knows it.
[06:18] <LeaChim> iceman, what's your problem when you try to use linux on a mac?
[06:18] <baconbacon> glassbits: i took it somewhere but used it many times
[06:18] <Powerbook`> Healot and zeus: I am in the US
[06:18] <iceman> LeaChim got to get a mac to begin with :(
[06:18] <ompaul> Powerbook`, you can download today or you can get it in 6-8weeks from shipit
[06:18] <greg> kevin1: can u tell me how to install windows 2000 to vmware?
[06:19] <glassbits> baconbacon, can you just outline your process so that i can manually do that ?
[06:19] <TLE> join /irssi
[06:19] <Healot> downloading the ISO images, is way faster Powerbook`
[06:19] <iceman> Powerboot i got curretn distro on a Linux Pro magazine. save the download time
[06:19] <kevin1> greg,  I am running windows 2003, all i did was create a new vm
[06:19] <pharcvde> download teh isos and order shipit
[06:19] <UnkwnTech> sethk: can you help me identify which driver is being used and tell me how to change it
[06:19] <kevin1> greg,  and then power it on and insert 2000 pro setup disk
i don't work with Nero but it may be a bad burning => u have to burn image.iso
[06:20] <greg> how do i create a new vm?
[06:20] <Powerbook`> Healot: I know, but about how long to the Us
[06:20] <sethk> UnkwnTech,  the output of the command "dmesg" will show you which driver is being loaded
[06:20] <Healot> i don't know, probably, 2-3 weeks
[06:20] <sethk> UnkwnTech, to try the other one, you can use rmmod to unload the one that was automatically used, and insmod to try the other one.
did your CD/DVD led on ?
[06:20] <kevin1> greg,  are you using vmware player?
[06:20] <sethk> UnkwnTech, but back up
[06:20] <greg> yes
[06:20] <UnkwnTech> ok
[06:20] <baconbacon> glassbits: i execute the first line on the source computer. I transfer the apt.tgz to the other computer. i execute the second line on it. I apt-get update then upgrade
[06:20] <kevin1> greg,  you have to buy vmware in order to make virtual machines
[06:21] <SV452> how do i mount an nrg? this does not work: mount -o loop,offset=307200 image.nrg /wheretomount
on boot
[06:21] <sethk> UnkwnTech, you tried configuring a static ip using ifconfig?  what happened, exactly.
[06:21] <StoneNote> kevin1, not true
[06:21] <baconbacon> vmware server can create vms
[06:21] <StoneNote> StoneNote, you can download the server for free, would you like the url?
[06:21] <sethk> SV452, where did that offset come from, and why do you think a loopback mount is what you need to do?
[06:21] <berkit> quovadis_a yes they spin at startup but the computer doesn't read from the cd
[06:21] <UnkwnTech> nothign
[06:21] <glassbits> baconbacon, so basically it just copies all those new files and updates the system using apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:21] <UnkwnTech> nothing*
[06:22] <greg> k..
[06:22] <sethk> UnkwnTech, that's impossible.  you can get an error message.  you can see that the configuration is effective.  about the only thing that can't happen is nothing
[06:22] <StoneNote> kevin1, http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[06:22] <sethk> UnkwnTech, it's going to be hard to help you if you can't describe what's going on.
[06:22] <baconbacon> glassbits: no it's is just two commands.  you run the first one on the 1st comp and the second... just read the file.
[06:22] <UnkwnTech> ok well i dont get any errors it just does not work
[06:23] <UnkwnTech> asin i have no acccess to any network recources
[06:23] <sethk> UnkwnTech, when you run ifconfig, does the static configuration show up?
[06:23] <glassbits> baconbacon, thts what the script does, i am talking about what the script actually does
your cd .iso 's bad
[06:23] <sethk> when you run ifconfig with no arguments, do you see the ip and mask that you set?
[06:23] <UnkwnTech> give me one second to set it to static
[06:23] <sethk> UnkwnTech, can you ping your own ip?
[06:23] <baconbacon> it's not really a script. just two commands. first one backups, second restores
[06:24] <munzir> Hi, In openoffice.org: Tools -> options -> writing aids -> user-defined dictionaries -> new -> Name: Arabic, Language: All -> Added some arabic words, enabled the dictionary, typed some arabic text but no checking at all, what am I missing please?
[06:24] <greg> whats the command to empty the trash?
[06:25] <azathoth> right click on the trashcan and click 'empty'
[06:25] <munzir> greg: rm .Trash/* -rf
[06:25] <UnkwnTech> when I type ifconfig i do see the info i specified
[06:25] <sethk> UnkwnTech, ok.  can you ping your own ip?
[06:26] <UnkwnTech> yes
[06:27] <sethk> ok.  can you ping your gateway?
[06:27] <UnkwnTech> no
[06:27] <sethk> times out?
[06:27] <UnkwnTech> yes
[06:28] <sethk> do you have an LED on the card that shows whether the link is active?  If you do, is it on?
[06:28] <UnkwnTech> yes it is
[06:28] <Iceman_2k> so to get 3D linux desktop, you must install xgl
[06:28] <sethk> what is the ip, the netmask, and the gateway ip?
[06:29] <UnkwnTech> system IP is 192.168.0.123 netmask is 255.255.255.0 gateway is 192.168.0.1
[06:29] <UnkwnTech> DHCP is enabled and works on other systems on the network
[06:30] <sethk> UnkwnTech, try pinging 192.168.0.123 from one of the other machines that works on the network
[06:30] <UnkwnTech> ok one second
[06:31] <UnkwnTech> timed out
[06:32] <sethk> UnkwnTech, did you try another cable?  just to be thorough
[06:32] <UnkwnTech> i just formated this system and it worked fine before
[06:32] <sethk> UnkwnTech, try another network cable, unless that's difficult to do for some reason
[06:33] <UnkwnTech> ok hold on
[06:33] <sethk> UnkwnTech, I agree it's unlikely to be the problem, but it is easy to eliminate, so eliminate it
[06:33] <moo^min> hello
[06:33] <moo^min> Just popping in to say that edgy has sweet improvements to boot and shutdown
[06:33] <moo^min> much much better
[06:33] <Chaosphilipp> Hi, where can i find a table of contents or anything like this of the repository universe?
[06:33] <secleinteer> does any1 know how to use the md5sums.gpg file to verify a ubuntu iso download?
[06:34] <UnkwnTech> ok i can still not see it on the network
[06:34] <mookid> I'm trying to install xchat but i'm having no luck at all
[06:34] <ubuntu_> hi all
[06:34] <ubuntu_> after i installed a windows2k onto the fat32 partition in my ubuntu box, my GRUB disappeared. how can i restore it? (i'm on dapper livecd now)
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> !grub
[06:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:35] <ubuntu_> thx Dr_Willis
[06:35] <sethk> UnkwnTech, do lsmod, and tell me which 8139 module shows up in the list
[06:35] <UnkwnTech> ok
[06:35] <UnkwnTech> one moment phone call
[06:35] <cherubiel> mookid: whats the problem?
[06:36] <Chaosphilipp> anyone got an idea?
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[06:36] <mookid> cherubiel: not sure give me 2 mins
[06:36] <sethk> UnkwnTech, I have a call also.  this doesn't look like the wrong module, but I'm running out of other things to try.
[06:36] <sethk> UnkwnTech, I'll come back as soon as I can
[06:37] <Chaosphilipp> doesn't seem as if....cya later
[06:37] <UnkwnTech> ok im back
[06:37] <mookid> cherubiel: i'm trying to install the xchat_2.6.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb package and it's not working
[06:38] <azathoth> why?
[06:38] <cherubiel> mookid: where *exactly* is it getting stuck?
[06:38] <azathoth> xchat is at 2.6.6
[06:38] <azathoth> !info xchat
[06:38] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[06:38] <azathoth> hehe
[06:38] <ScrIptureZ> good morning all chan
[06:38] <azathoth> oh yeah, i'm on edgy :D
[06:38] <mookid> "Error Dependency is not satisfiable: xchat-common"
[06:38] <mookid> :(
[06:39] <mookid> on the package installer
[06:40] <mookid> any ideas cherubiel  ?
[06:40] <mookid> :(
[06:40] <sxrx> Hey guys, I'm having a problem...
[06:40] <sxrx> ...With burning the iso's they just get stuck
[06:40] <cherubiel> what are the repos you've added?
[06:40] <sxrx> Am i doing something wrong?
[06:40] <mookid> I have no idea what they are sorry :/
[06:40] <mookid> I'm just getting used to ubuntu
[06:40] <mookid> from xp
[06:40] <Kwong> hi does anyone know how to get Projector working with Ubuntu?
[06:41] <cherubiel> /etc/apt/menu.lst
[06:41] <cherubiel> oops, sources.lst
[06:41] <cherubiel> :P
[06:41] <CarlFK> sxrx: how are you burning ?
[06:41] <zeus> )
[06:41] <zeus> :)
[06:41] <sxrx> Nero
[06:41] <sxrx> Open the iso in nero, and just burn
[06:41] <CarlFK> explain "get stuck"
[06:42] <sxrx> CarlFK: Give me a second, let me try something real quick
[06:42] <mookid> cherubiel:
[06:42] <cube_> hmm...can anyone help me with a wlan-problem?
[06:42] <mookid> what am I looking for?
[06:42] <boricua> i install skype i can hear myself but when i do the self test my voice does not playback, also when i make a pc to line call others dont hear me   plse advice on getting this to work
[06:43] <sethk> CarlFK, the laser must melt the plastic, and the head is fused to it  :)
[06:43] <CarlFK> sethk: that would make it stick
[06:44] <mookid> cherubiel: was that /etc/apt/services.list thing aimed at me?
[06:44] <CarlFK> sethk: or maybe it was the can of pop that got spilled, and now the disk sticks to the tray
[06:44] <Tonren> Hey guys, what does this error message mean?  It happens every time I sudo dhclient eth1 (my wireless). http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22446
[06:44] <lordoflamers> Hello, I have a little problem here.. I spilled vine over laptop's keyboard, so it is now typing random charcters :) i plugged in USB keyboard, but built-in still "is typing".. any way to disable built-in keyboard?
[06:45] <ompaul> boricua, right click on the picture of a speaker on the top right of a screen - Open Volume Control, click on capture - remove red x on mic and anything else you see there
[06:45] <First|Bleh> reminds me of when i spilled milk on my old keyboard
[06:46] <sethk> lordoflamers, not without taking it apart
[06:46] <UnkwnTech> seth lsmod shows 8139too and 8139cp
[06:47] <lordoflamers> sethk: huh.. I tried it yesterday.. seems like keyboard is on piece with speakers, and I couldn't get to "flat cable" that connects it..
[06:47] <sethk> Tonren, there is an environment variable that is not set
[06:47] <MetaMorfoziS> men! Sikeres xgl eltavolitas rlz.
[06:47] <sethk> lordoflamers, it is possible, but not that easy, to get it apart.
[06:48] <sethk> UnkwnTech, try rmmod of each, one at a time, see if the behavior changes.  you'll have to reconfigure after rmmod.  it may barf and not let you do it, but try it.
[06:48] <lordoflamers> well, i know it's not easy, that's why i came here.. already googled all night yesterday, and i have a project to complete this night :)
[06:48] <boricua> ompaul: i did that but still my test recording does not play back all i hear is the lady saying that if i dont hear my voice i have a problem :-)
[06:48] <sethk> Tonren, the reason it is trying to copy the same file name to itself is that it is creating the file name using an environment variable that is evaluating to ""
[06:49] <sethk> Tonren, it appears to be in your postfix email server.  are you running postfix?
[06:49] <lordoflamers> sethk: isn't usb and ps/2 keyboards a seperate devices under /dev? i'm ready to try everything (well, maybe except compiling kernel :)..
[06:49] <sethk> Tonren, have to work for a few minutes, I'll try to get back.
[06:49] <Kwong> hi there, Does anyone know how to get Projector working with Ubuntu?
[06:49] <UnkwnTech> I did "sudo rmmod 8139too" and "sudo rmmod 8139cp"
[06:50] <UnkwnTech> now should i just reconfigure it
[06:50] <sethk> lordoflamers, yes, they are.  I'd have to hunt up what the laptop built in is, but the usb is definitely a different device
[06:50] <sethk> lordoflamers, you could rebuild a kernel without ps/2 keyboard support, but even that's not guaranteed to fix your problem
[06:50] <Mozer> can anyone tell me how configurate the hotkeys in gnome???
[06:50] <greg> help
[06:50] <boricua> ompaul:still there
[06:50] <sethk> UnkwnTech, I think you'll have to insmod one of them, configure, test, if no change, rmmod, then try with the other
[06:51] <greg> i just mounted a hd as home now it cant find home/greg
[06:51] <Clawfinger> Hey, I managed to get my Linux working properly, configured router, everything is good so far. But I'm a complete Linux newbie and I'm trying to install AMSN.. I'm in the root terminal with the apt-get install.. but it's saying package can't be found. Every time.
[06:51] <silverfox> how i can set the gdm screen to default ?
[06:51] <sethk> UnkwnTech, because 8139too and 8139cp duplicate functionality and having both loaded at the same time isn't a great idea
[06:51] <sethk> UnkwnTech, it may not help, but it's worth a try.
[06:51] <sethk> Clawfinger, sudo apt-get update
[06:51] <lordoflamers> sethk: hmm.. so it isn't possible to do something like nohup cat /dev/whatever > dev/null with ps/2 keyboard?
[06:51] <cherubiel> mookid: sorry was on a call, what version are you on? dapper?
[06:51] <sethk> Clawfinger, better to use synaptic.  it has a nice easy to use GUI interface to apt-get
[06:51] <greg> how do i fix it?
[06:52] <RyanTMulligan> Does anyone know of a tutorial for DualHead XGL+Compiz?
[06:52] <sethk> lordoflamers, no, that's not going to help
[06:52] <greg> HELP
[06:52] <sethk> lordoflamers, it's possible to do it, but it won't do any good.  :)
[06:52] <greg> i cant do anything
[06:52] <lordoflamers> i've disabled both keyboards yesterday that way :)
[06:52] <Tonren> sethk: If I'm running postfix, it's not running properly.  I never did set it up quite right.  Can I just disable it? I don't need it.
[06:52] <greg> anyone?
[06:52] <flawd> since I saw a post on google regarding jmicron controller and ubuntu I'll ask here too: anyone who knows if the problems with PATA drives (mainly optical) and the jmicron controller on some asus motherboards and other boards also affects SATA or if it would be safe to assume a SATA optical drive would work to install linux with it? Thinking mainly of asus p5b deluxe
[06:52] <First|Bleh> ...
[06:52] <Clawfinger> sethk, I don't think I have synaptic..
[06:53] <greg> HEY
[06:53] <First|Bleh> greg..we can't help you with just 'i can't do anything'
[06:53] <First|Bleh> and shouting isn't going to change that
[06:53] <firegod> hi
[06:53] <UnkwnTech> sethk: "sudo insmod 8139too" returns "insmod cant read 8139too no such file or dirctory"
[06:53] <greg> "(12:51:12) greg: i just mounted a hd as home now it cant find home/greg"
[06:54] <Clawfinger> hmm, even after I tried sudo apt-get update. it still cannot find the package.
[06:54] <First|Bleh> unmount the hd?
[06:54] <cherubiel> Clawfinger: added the universe repo?
[06:54] <greg> no i mounted one
[06:54] <UnkwnTech> and same for 8139cp
[06:54] <First|Bleh> i'm telling you to unmount it
[06:55] <Clawfinger> I don't know what a universe repo is heh. this is the first time i've ever managed to get linux connected to the net.
[06:55] <greg> i cant
[06:55] <Otacon22> howto change the order of the grub list?
[06:55] <greg> i cat open any apps
[06:55] <greg> or even the terminal
[06:55] <First|Bleh> did you set it to mount at start up?
[06:55] <cherubiel> heh, find a line like this in your /etc/apt/sources.lst -> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper ;
[06:55] <UnkwnTech> greg press alt+F2
[06:55] <greg> don think so
[06:56] <boricua> !xplane
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xplane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <First|Bleh> then a simple reboot will more than likely fix your issue
[06:56] <greg> then what?
[06:56] <boricua> !skype
[06:56] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:56] <tich> i just installed muse but when i try to start it shows a warning: failed to initialize the alsa midi subsystem, check your configuration. can anyone help me with this?
[06:56] <gnomefreak> greg: what are you trying to open/
[06:56] <sgcplayer> I've successfully set up an nfs export on my local network, and I can mount it manually; can someone help me edit fstab on the client so it mounts automatically on bootup?
[06:56] <greg> disk manager
[06:56] <Clawfinger> !apt-get
[06:56] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:57] <First|Bleh> hmm
[06:57] <First|Bleh> !mount
[06:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:57] <vader> I need the thing for when I am un plugged to tell me when I am running low on power, how do I get that to appear?
[06:57] <Clawfinger> !Synaptic
[06:57] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:57] <gnomefreak> greg: system>prefferences>disk or system>admin>disks (i cant remember what one it is)
[06:57] <RyanTMulligan> !xinerama
[06:57] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[06:57] <greg> i cant open it
[06:57] <greg> says home/greg not found
[06:57] <greg> ill try rebbot
[06:58] <gnomefreak> sounds like he moved his home dir :(
[06:58] <First|Bleh> my next recommendation is to uninstall linux
[06:58] <Shin_Gouki> hello there! how do i put an SVG Image as background with xubuntu?
[06:58] <Jonex> How do I change the screen refresh rate over what's selectable (60Hz)
[06:59] <Jonex> Shin_Gouki: Hmm, if you open it in Inkscape and exports it as PNG it should work?
[07:00] <Clawfinger> hmm, can anyone help me find Synaptic?
[07:00] <Nabiki> Good evening/morning.
[07:00] <Shin_Gouki> :O dont wanna want "native" SVG display background
[07:00] <Shin_Gouki> but thx for advice Jonex :)
[07:00] <Nabiki> Does anyone know about Java issues with firefox?  I installed the sun-java plugin, and it doesn't seem to recognize when I use the arrow keys. ^^;;
[07:00] <cherubiel> Clawfinger: apt-get install synaptic
[07:01] <Jonex> Shin_Gouki: I doub't that's possible, if it is I think they should consider adding less bloat to Xubuntu...
[07:01] <Clawfinger> it says synaptic is already at it's newest version
[07:01] <Clawfinger> but I cannot find it
[07:01] <cherubiel> type synaptic from the commandline, terminal
[07:01] <Shin_Gouki> ok then it is possible in ubuntu?
[07:01] <Clawfinger> thankyou :)
[07:01] <cherubiel> or as root. you should also find it under administration
[07:02] <piglit> Clawfinger system--->administration-->syn...
[07:02] <ximi_x> $sudo synaptic
[07:03] <Shin_Gouki> i remember i asked arround at the enlightment channel, i think they said its possible with "e"
[07:03] <Sebsoon> who speak french ?
[07:03] <Shin_Gouki> Sebsoon-> #ubuntu-fr
[07:03] <brian98> French People?
[07:03] <Sebsoon> thank
[07:03] <bluefusionxl> I try to run apt-get update and it thinks im installing an update package :/
[07:03] <Sebsoon> thank shin
[07:04] <bluefusionxl> W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://cipherfunk.org hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/cipherfunk.org_pub_packages_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:04] <bluefusionxl> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:04] <bluefusionxl> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[07:04] <bluefusionxl> and ervery time i try apt-get install blank
[07:04] <Waerner> Anyone else that can't run 'apt-get update' ?
[07:04] <bluefusionxl> it tries to install a install package
[07:04] <bluefusionxl> im using hoary
[07:04] <bluefusionxl> Waener do you have my problem?
[07:04] <cherubiel> bluefusionxl: have you cancelled any previours installations?
[07:05] <cherubiel> bluefusionxl: i mean, have any previous apt-get installs been interrupted?
[07:05] <Shin_Gouki> hello there! how do i put an SVG Image as background with ubuntu?
[07:05] <Waerner> bluefusionxl: It stops at 50%
[07:05] <bluefusionxl> I dont believe they have
[07:05] <Jonex> Shin_Gouki: Have you tried the same way as with a png?
[07:06] <Waerner> bluefusionxl: "50% [Connecting to se.ubuntu bla bla bla] "
[07:06] <Shin_Gouki> Jonex :D, I want SVG a VECTOR IMAGE no pixelimage ^^
[07:06] <Shin_Gouki> verarsch mich noch hier#
[07:06] <sgcplayer> I want to mount an nfs export automatically at boot, what do I add to /etc/fstab?
[07:06] <Waerner> I'm using Dapper btw
[07:06] <Jonex> Shin_Gouki: I get that. But are you really sure it's possible to use an SVG? What is the error you get?
[07:07] <anthony> heya I have a FAT32 mounted in my shared folder, and I want to become the owner.  what should I do?
[07:07] <bluefusionxl> oh
[07:07] <bluefusionxl> its my sources.list file that is corrupted somehow
[07:07] <bluefusionxl> it happened after i did source-o-matic
[07:07] <Waerner> anthony         chown /folder/       ?
[07:08] <flawd> since I saw a post on google regarding jmicron controller and ubuntu I'll ask here too: anyone who knows if the problems with PATA drives (mainly optical) and the jmicron controller on some asus motherboards and other boards also affects SATA or if it would be safe to assume a SATA optical drive would work to install linux with it? Thinking mainly of asus p5b deluxe
[07:08] <rshakin> hey ppl i am trying to recover some data from a win2k hd by using ubuntu live
[07:08] <looktj> hmm
[07:08] <bluefusionxl> problem?
[07:08] <Waerner> bluefusionxl: Is there any way to get a new sources.list then?
[07:08] <rshakin> whats the default root password for the live cd
[07:08] <snedar> hi! can I upgrade to edgy knot 2 by just doing s/dapper/edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list, or will it blow up my pc?
[07:08] <bluefusionxl> uhh
[07:08] <bluefusionxl> you cant do it on live
[07:08] <bluefusionxl> on root
[07:09] <bluefusionxl> but you can use sudo
[07:09] <Waerner> rshakin       nothing. It's disabled or something... try this --->    'sudo passwd root'
[07:09] <Shin_Gouki> Jonex thx for help, but gtg now cya arround
[07:09] <anthony> Waerner, thanks, trying it now
[07:09] <looktj> rshakin: in terminal sudo -i
[07:09] <bluefusionxl> u cant change settings on a live lol
[07:09] <Waerner> anthony: np =)
[07:09] <rshakin> Waerner: thanx
[07:09] <Waerner> bluefusionxl: Hmm, are you really sure about that...?
[07:09] <DanaG> argh, amarok visualizations are broken for me.
[07:09] <Waerner> rshakin: Did it work?
[07:09] <sethk> bluefusionxl, it's a bit involved, but you can change the settings on a live
[07:10] <DanaG> Broken, as in, do not exist.
[07:10] <rshakin> Waerner: yes it did
[07:10] <looktj> bluefusinxl: not true
[07:10] <gnomefreak> Waerner: please dont advise people to do that its not needed and can mess things up
[07:10] <bluefusionxl> but its an unwriteable data dc :/
[07:10] <rshakin> now i need to mount my ntfs hd
[07:10] <Waerner> rshakin: Perfect. Then bluefusionxl was wrong ;)
[07:10] <bluefusionxl> Aw
[07:10] <battlecat> Hi I am about to buy a personal scale to use for my eBay stuff and I found one that is USB powered at radio shack. It has no led readout but instead uses the PS to display the info. Is there a way to check if there is a linux app for this instead of going back to windows for this one thing? The product page is at http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?parentPage=search&summary=summary&cp=&accessories=accessories&produc
[07:10] <bluefusionxl> Sorry, just suggesting :)
[07:10] <battlecat> Lord thats a horrid URL
[07:10] <Kill_Gates> Dr_Willis: To get my GRUB back, i tried method two from the link ubotu gave me. !botsnack for this. but as i try to get to the recovery line by typing in the splash screen 'boot=rescue root=dev/discs/dsic0/part1' i get a Kernel Panic error
[07:10] <Waerner> bluefusionxl: the settings are stored in the RAM or something.. But you can edit them in the current session
[07:11] <Waerner> Anyway, does anyone have a URL to a new sources.list for 6.06 LTS?
[07:11] <sethk> bluefusionxl, you can override the default location for things, and you can do clever things with sym links, and you can change it.  might not be worth the effort, but it is possible as long as you have some writeable disk available
[07:11] <Tonren> sethk: You around again...?  I wanted to continue that conversation we (almost) had yesterday about KDE.  (I think it was with you)
[07:11] <DanaG> should be /dev/sda1 /dev/hda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/hda2, not /dev/disk, right
[07:11] <bluefusionxl> but can someone help me with my sources problem?
[07:11] <sethk> Tonren, I'm here, but only for a few more minutes
[07:11] <Tonren> sethk: Also I still don't know what's up with that nebulous dhclient error
[07:12] <bluefusionxl> apt
[07:12] <Tonren> sethk: Ah.  So you say that error I had was because of postfix mail server?
[07:12] <sethk> Tonren, are you running postfix?
[07:12] <ccc_> Waerner: the swedish mirror works for me (se.archive.ubuntu.com)
[07:12] <gnomefreak> Waerner: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[07:12] <Waerner> gnomefreak:   Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[07:12] <sethk> Tonren, the error is because an env variable isn't set, but the error is in postfix configuration
[07:12] <gnomefreak> Waerner: yes
[07:12] <Grok_> battlecat: have you tried the app in wine yet?
[07:12] <mookid> cherubiel: I'm sorry i had to go - did you have any ideas what might be stopping the package from installing?
[07:12] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Damn! Then I don't have a clue what the problem is :S
[07:13] <Tonren> sethk: It's probably because I didn't configure postfix properly.  Where do I go to remove it from the list of activated network services?
[07:13] <Kill_Gates> anybody got something on my grub issue above?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> Waerner: i havent seen you tell us a problem
[07:13] <cherubiel> mookid: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[07:13] <battlecat> Honestly no not yet I will this afternoon
[07:13] <sethk> Tonren, when the ip address changes, postfix tries to compensate for the fact that it is running on a box that doesn't have a static ip
[07:13] <gnomefreak> !grub > Kill_Gates
[07:13] <gnomefreak> try your pm
[07:13] <cherubiel> mookid: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.lst on some pastebin?
[07:13] <Tonren> sethk: Ahh, I see.
[07:13] <sethk> Tonren, but you can ignore that, unless you really care about running a mail server on a box without a static ip
[07:14] <mookid> i'm on 6.06
[07:14] <Clawfinger> jeez. seriously struggling to install files. amsn_0.96RC1-1.deb is it's name. apt-get doesn't work and I don't understand Synaptic.
[07:14] <Kill_Gates> gnomefreak: i allready read this but it won't work "To get my GRUB back, i tried method two from the link ubotu gave me. !botsnack for this. but as i try to get to the recovery line by typing in the splash screen 'boot=rescue root=dev/discs/dsic0/part1' i get kernel panic"
[07:14] <sethk> Tonren, as long as your ip and netmask and dns configuration is good, the postfix thing won't impact anything (other than postfix, that is)
[07:14] <Tonren> sethk: I don't care to configure a mail server at the moment, but I am rather obsessive-compulsive about seeing the same error message over and over again.
[07:14] <sethk> Tonren, what kde question were we talking about?
[07:14] <sethk> Tonren, stop postfix
[07:14] <parag0n> Clawfinger, try `dpkg -i amsn*.deb`
[07:14] <Grok_> battlecat: first thing i'd do is make sure you have the latest version of wine and try the ready made app under there...after that look for a linux app
[07:14] <Clawfinger> thanks
[07:14] <parag0n> if you have the deb
[07:15] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Hang on, I can do it again:       I'm trying to excecute 'apt-get update' but it stops on the first line that appear: "50% [se.archives.ubuntu.com]  [security.ubuntu.com] "
[07:15] <sethk> Tonren, if it isn't configured, you don't want to be running it anyway
[07:15] <ompaul> boricua, okay the next step is to use an easier mixer so install (kmix)
[07:15] <Tonren> sethk: Oh, well, every time I install kubuntu-desktop, it clobbers GNOME.  I can no longer login, it doesn't even get to the login screen.  I've tried it four times, twice I had to reinstall, the other two I just had to uninstall KDE, but now my boot-up screen is stuck on "Kubuntu".
[07:15] <rshakin> ok ppl i need to ftp some stuff from the cmline in batches
[07:15] <rshakin> how should i do it
[07:15] <gnomefreak> ompaul: have wse had timing out issues with security repos?
[07:15] <gnomefreak> s/wse/we
[07:15] <sethk> Tonren, I think perhaps you are confusing gnome, kde, kdm, and gdm
[07:15] <rshakin> i am coping it to a linux box
[07:15] <Tonren> sethk: How do I stop postfix permanently?
[07:15] <sethk> Tonren, gnome and kde will not clobber each other.
[07:15] <Kill_Gates> gnomefreak: you anything?
[07:16] <gnomefreak> Waerner: you can try taking the se. out of the repos
[07:16] <sethk> Tonren, installing kde will I believe replace gdm with kdm
[07:16] <Chousuke> rshakin: what do you mean "batch"?
[07:16] <sethk> Tonren, and that is probably what you want to stop
[07:16] <Tonren> sethk: GNOME runs on top of GDM and KDE runs on top of GDM, right?
[07:16] <UnkwnTech> sethk insmod 8139too and 8139cp gave me an error
[07:16] <ompaul> gnomefreak, not that I am aware of
[07:16] <Chousuke> rshakin: several files from several servers?
[07:16] <sethk> Tonren, no
[07:16] <gnomefreak> Kill_Gates: that line your adding isnt right or it wouldnt panic. im not sure what you are trying to do either
[07:16] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Alright, I'll try that... But aren't they pretty neccessary?
[07:16] <Tonren> sethk: Oh... then what is the model?
[07:16] <Clawfinger> dpkg: error processing /home/richie/Desktop/debs/amsn_0.96RC1-1.deb (--install): subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[07:16] <Clawfinger> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:16] <Clawfinger>  /home/richie/Desktop/debs/amsn_0.96RC1-1.deb
[07:16] <sethk> Tonren, you can run gdm, kdm, or xdm (or none of the above)
[07:16] <gnomefreak> Waerner: not at all
[07:16] <ompaul> gnomefreak, se is also the land of the bot called anna
[07:16] <Jonex> sdfagh
[07:16] <Jonex> asdfah'l
[07:16] <Jonex> Oops.
[07:16] <Kill_Gates> gnomefreak: i am trying to get my grub back
[07:16] <sethk> Tonren, any of the three (gdm, kdm, xdm) can start gnome, kde, or any other desktop
[07:16] <Jonex> Sorry, wrong keyboard.
[07:16] <Tonren> sethk: Oh, I had no idea.
[07:17] <sethk> Tonren, so I think you'll probably get the behavior you want simply by reinstalling gdm
[07:17] <rshakin> Chousuke, i am trying to recover some files off a win2000 partition... so i am trying to copy the my documents over to my server using rcp or ftp or anything else that will work i am using the live cd of ubuntu
[07:17] <Phoul> Is there a mirror for the latest battle for wesnoth version?
[07:17] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Then it stops at 66%.
[07:17] <Kill_Gates> gnomefreak: what is wrong about it?
[07:17] <gnomefreak> Kill_Gates: i dont remember that being a way to do it. i havent had to do it in a while either
[07:17] <Chousuke> rshakin: use scp then
[07:17] <Tonren> sethk: But when kubuntu-desktop installs, it asks you if you want to keep GDM or install KDM.
[07:17] <Tonren> sethk: I always opt to keep GDM, but it always break.s
[07:17] <Kill_Gates> !grub <- says so
[07:17] <gnomefreak> Waerner: does it end up erroring?
[07:17] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[07:17] <Chousuke> rshakin: just scp -r dir/ user@remote:
[07:17] <Tonren> sethk: Is there a package for just GDM?
[07:17] <Clawfinger> this is what happens when I tried to dpkg my file
[07:17] <Clawfinger> dpkg: error processing /home/richie/Desktop/debs/amsn_0.96RC1-1.deb (--install): subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[07:17] <Chousuke> rshakin: it only needs ssh installed and running
[07:17] <Clawfinger> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:17] <Clawfinger>  /home/richie/Desktop/debs/amsn_0.96RC1-1.deb
[07:17] <asabil> lol @ Kill_Gates
[07:17] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Hang on.
[07:18] <gnomefreak> Clawfinger: dont paste in here
[07:18] <rshakin> Chousuke
[07:18] <lierre> hi all, can anyone help my out with the network manager?
[07:18] <rshakin> thanx
[07:18] <Clawfinger> where do I paste then?
[07:18] <lierre> i've got a ubuntu on macbokk
[07:18] <sethk> Tonren, yes, I'll get the package name
[07:18] <gnomefreak> Kill_Gates: try the first way than
[07:18] <Clawfinger> this is ubuntu help right?
[07:18] <sethk> Tonren, sorry, I had a phone call
[07:18] <Tonren> sethk: s'ok
[07:18] <UnkwnTech> BBL
[07:18] <gnomefreak> Clawfinger: yes but dont paste in here use pastebin
[07:18] <looktj> how do i clean? forgot command, sudo autoclean?
[07:18] <sethk> Tonren, two packages, gdm, and gdm-themes
[07:18] <lierre> and my network manager doesn't show any wifi option
[07:18] <Kill_Gates> gnomefreak: when i try the first way, the installer wants to install the system after the part with the partition table. i'm not quite sure if this will destroy my system or not?
[07:18] <sethk> Tonren, no need to uninstall kdm
[07:19] <dbrock> I get LANGUAGE=en_AU:en, but I'm a Swede
[07:19] <dbrock> how do I change this?
[07:19] <sethk> Tonren, in fact, there really isn't a need to reinstall gdm, but it's less complicated than figuring out the configuration that selects gdm or kdm
[07:19] <mookid> ok cherubiel: http://www.copypot.com/587
[07:19] <dbrock> that is, how do I change the default locale and language?
[07:19] <gnomefreak> Kill_Gates: i dont think it does but it has to set up for grub install
[07:19] <Clawfinger> Well anyway can anyone help me, i've tried dpkg -i, apt-get and synaptic and nothing seems to be able to get aMSN working.. has anyone else successfully installed aMSN on Ubuntu?
[07:19] <Waerner> dbrock:  LANG=whatever
[07:19] <mookid> is that what you need ?
[07:19] <sethk> Tonren, I have to take a support call here, I'll come back as soon as I can but it will probably be a while
[07:19] <Tonren> sethk: So... if I want to try out KDE again, I should download kubuntu-desktop, then download gdm and gdm-themes?
[07:19] <Tonren> sethk: Sure.
[07:20] <dbrock> Waerner: where do I put that?
[07:20] <dbrock> I don't understand where it's getting the Australia stuff from in the first place
[07:20] <Kill_Gates> gnomefreak: so you are sure that this will not overwrite my / ?
[07:20] <cherubiel> mookid: uncomment, these 2 lines # deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[07:20] <cherubiel> # deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[07:20] <cherubiel> do an apt-get update and try again
[07:20] <Waerner> dbrock: In a terminal, but "whatever" should be replaced with sv_SE or something
[07:20] <mookid> oki doki
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Kill_Gates: i havent had to do it since hoary but if its what i think it shouldnt. but since you are worried back up you /home
[07:21] <sethk> Tonren, that will work.  you can install kde without installing kdm, but, again, it's simpler to do it the other way.
[07:21] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Now I got one:   "temporary failure resolving 'bla bla bla'"
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Waerner: hold on im testing here
[07:22] <Tonren> sethk: You mean, it's simpler to reinstall GDM than to install KDE without KDM.  (feel free to leave me hanging for your phone call, man)
[07:22] <gnomefreak> Waerner: they are working here. can you pastebin the full output of sudo apt-get update
[07:22] <mookid> Still got the 'error: dependecy is not satisfiable: xchat-common' message :(
[07:22] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Thanks. But I had the same problem for two days ago, so :)
[07:22] <GameCat> can someone tell me how to change the nvidia kernel module? I can't change from nvidia-glx-legacy to nvidia-glx as X complains about the wrong kernel module
[07:22] <Waerner> I guess it's not temporary...
[07:22] <dbrock> Waerner: I don't want to do it for just one terminal session, I want it to be the default for each time I start my computer
[07:22] <Kill_Gates> gnomefreak: i'm quite worried. i don't have any media where my /home will fit on :-)
[07:22] <sethk> Tonren, yes, simpler to install kde desktop than to find all the pieces of kde without installing kdm
[07:22] <Waerner> dbrock: It will be :)
[07:22] <Gollum> I have a question, what cpu utility should i install, i have a intel centrino duo cpu on my laptop.
[07:22] <mookid> cherubiel: it defo did something when i updated but it's still not working :(
[07:22] <dbrock> Waerner: huh
[07:22] <gnomefreak> Kill_Gates: than back up what you want
[07:23] <dbrock> Waerner: how do you figure?
[07:23] <Byan> is there a program I can use to monitor CPU temp, ect?
[07:23] <Waerner> dbrock: when changing the LANG-thing, the change will remain even after a reboot
[07:23] <gnomefreak> Waerner: did this happen from fresh install?
[07:23] <dbrock> Waerner: how?
[07:23] <Tonren> sethk: OK.  Maybe I"ll try that out again, then
[07:23] <Waerner> gnomefreak: yep!
[07:23] <boricua> ompaul: ok installing kmix
[07:23] <dbrock> Waerner: it's just an environment variable
[07:23] <Waerner> dbrock: Well, I did it that way :S
[07:23] <gnomefreak> Waerner: ok is apt trying to use a proxy that maybe you didnt set up?
[07:24] <cherubiel> mookid: why don't you try the package from the repo ?
[07:24] <cherubiel> mookid: apt-get install xchat?
[07:24] <asabil> hello
[07:24] <asabil> anyone using NetworkManager please ?
[07:24] <asabil> we need some help with it
[07:24] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Dunno, I've installed Ubuntu many times on that comp before, didn't notice anything this time... Can I check it somehow?
[07:24] <asabil> it seems quite borked here
and ?
[07:24] <asabil> quovadis_a, and what ?
[07:25] <graft> i'm trying to get zeroconf support working but i dont seem to have any 'mdnsd' running - what do i do?
[07:25] <mookid> cherubiel: "couldn't find package xchat" :(
u need some help ?
[07:25] <cherubiel> xchat-gnome
[07:25] <gnomefreak> sethk: you happen to remember the command to check if apt is using a proxy i cant remember to save my life
[07:25] <asabil> graft, install avahi and avahi-daemon
[07:25] <gnomefreak> cherubiel: enable universe repo
[07:25] <mookid> n1 ;)
[07:25] <asabil> quovadis_a, wanna help ?
[07:25] <bvali> :)
[07:25] <Grok_> byan: check out XSensors
[07:25] <tarak> hello everyone
[07:25] <boricua> ompaul: no luck
What's the trouble ?
[07:26] <graft> asabil: i did, and avahi-daemon is running
[07:26] <graft> asabil: but zeroconf shows no services
[07:26] <asabil> you need to run services then
[07:27] <tarak> i get error on my ubuntu that i dont have gcc and c compiler... can someone please suggest me one and tell me where can i get it?
[07:27] <asabil> quovadis_a, wait please
[07:27] <mookid> thanks alot cherubiel
[07:27] <gnomefreak> tarak: install build-essential
[07:27] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Any command to run? :P
[07:27] <gnomefreak> Waerner: checking
[07:27] <mookid> cherubiel: for future reference, where can i search for the name of the package that i need?
[07:27] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Thanks alot :)
[07:28] <gnomefreak> Waerner: i never had this issue so i dont ever remember command
[07:28] <cherubiel> do a apt-cache search <name>
[07:28] <ompaul> boricua, so you have some other issues, is the mic in the right slot? i.e. got speakers installed in both the speaker outputs and check them with some sound - also I am going to get the bot to send some collective wisdom your way
[07:28] <cherubiel> mookid: try it
[07:28] <ompaul> !sound > boricua
[07:28] <mookid> thanks alot mate :)
[07:28] <mookid> much appreciated
[07:28] <Waerner> gnomefreak: darn, but I'll google on apt and proxy! Thanks alot =)
[07:28] <graft> asabil: run services?
[07:28] <boricua> ompaul: yes i can hear myself when i speak thru mike
[07:28] <asabil> quovadis_a, when we right click on nm-applet, there is only enable networking (checked)
[07:28] <asabil> there is no enable wireless
[07:28] <asabil> nor connection informations
[07:29] <asabil> oups
[07:29] <graft> asabil: oh, haha... um, i assumed something was running, but maybe not...
[07:29] <asabil> connection infos is there
[07:29] <auTONYmous> quick question: how can I downgrade a package? (and, no, I don't have synaptic...I'm on kubuntu)
[07:29] <asabil> graft, run rhythmbox, and enable music sharing
[07:29] <mcphail> auTONYmous: sudo aptitude install package=version
[07:29] <ompaul> boricua, then it is a setting on that mixer - your going to have to twiddle - try closing the program and using >> killall esd <<
[07:29] <Gollum> Hello, my cpu is runnig on maximum all the time, i need a app that will scale it down dynamically, Intel Centrino Duo on a laptop. when i go in synaptics it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop if i select ie cpudyn, :)
[07:30] <carpanta> Hello, what is the user and home directory where apache executes on ?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> Gollum: ubuntu-desktop is ok to remove
[07:30] <auTONYmous> mcphail: thanks. Now I gotta find out what the original version number was...
[07:30] <Waerner> gnomefreak: Thanks alot
[07:30] <Waerner> "
[07:30] <Gollum> wot?
[07:30] <tarak> !help
[07:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:30] <martin> hi there
[07:30] <tarak> !help channels
[07:30] <gnomefreak> Gollum: its ok to remove ubuntu-desktop its a meta package
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help channels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <martin> is there a gnucash 2.x for ubuntu available?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> Gollum: it will not remove anything
[07:31] <tarak> can someone help me please? i get error on my ubuntu that i dont have gcc and c compiler... can someone please suggest me one and tell me where can i get it?
[07:31] <Gollum> ah, gnomefreak, but what utility should i use ?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> Gollum: for what?
[07:31] <mcphail> tarak: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:31] <boricua> ompaul: everytime i close the volume control  when i open the mic shows red x
[07:31] <gnomefreak> Gollum: all i saw you say is you went to synaptic and it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <Gollum> Cpu deamon something, need to calm down the cpu, :D
[07:32] <grogoreo> hi
[07:32] <Gollum> The cpu is running om max all the time, Its a laptop
[07:32] <tarak> mcphail, i dont have that PC connected to the internet because i have WADSL which i can connect only to one PC
[07:32] <miyumi> can anyone help me create the preferences file for apt?
[07:32] <gnomefreak> Gollum: in ubuntu and not in ubuntu?
[07:32] <ompaul> boricua, I have no idea please check the documentation that the bot gave you it should help
[07:32] <Gollum> In ubuntu,
[07:32] <greg> so
[07:33] <mcphail> tarak: that package may be on the cd
[07:33] <greg> rebboting trashed grub
[07:33] <graft> yo, what happened to the daap server? why is it no longer included in the distro?
[07:33] <Gollum> I just need a "speedstep" like utility
[07:33] <ompaul> !daap
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <dbrock> is there a shell script that gdm runs where you can set environment variables?
[07:33] <graft> damn you, ubotu! damn youuu!!!
[07:33] <dbrock> like if I want to set PATH=~/bin:$PATH
[07:34] <tarak> mcphail, i checked with a program that shows installed applications (cant remember the name right now, sorry) and it says gcc is installed, but if i try to install something (eggdrop, just an example) when it checks for gcc and c it cannot find them
[07:34] <gnomefreak> Gollum: powernowd  (try apt-cache search cpu) for more
[07:34] <Gollum> ok, thanks
[07:34] <gnomefreak> graft: its not the bots fault
[07:34] <mcphail> dbrock: just add that to your .bashrc
[07:34] <philips> tarak: aptitude install build-essential
[07:34] <greg> my butt hurts
[07:34] <graft> gnomefreak: i know :P
[07:34] <newbie> hello is this the chan for support ubuntu?
[07:34] <Gollum> hm, weird, its installed
[07:35] <graft> newbie: yes it is, ask your question
[07:35] <geeksatlarge> Does anyone know where the cgi-bin directory should go? I installed apache-perl and DocRoot is /var/www/.
[07:35] <boricua> ompaul: tht bot info is old there is no multimedia in 6..6
[07:35] <dbrock> mcphail: but neither gdm nor my window manager sources .bashrc
[07:35] <gnomefreak> greg: i suggest you read up on how to use ubuntu and how to use the cli
[07:35] <martin> where can I find gnucash-2.x for ubuntu?
[07:35] <gnomefreak> boricua: yes there is you can add it back to menu using alacarte
[07:35] <dbrock> use case: I start my computer, log in, start Emacs.  I want my PATH to contain ~/bin
[07:35] <tarak> philips, i told mcphail that pc isn't connected to the internet... does that command needs a pc connected to the internet?
[07:35] <gnomefreak> !gnucash
[07:35] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8.12-6ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1288 kB, installed size 3912 kB
[07:35] <philips> tarak: uh yea...
[07:35] <greg> i dont read up on anything
[07:35] <graft> reading up on ubuntu will keep his butt from hurting?
[07:35] <philips> tarak: connect it?
[07:35] <mcphail> dbrock: any login uses your default shell from /etc/passwd , so it should work
[07:36] <martin> is emacs-22.0.50 fr ubuntu available?
[07:36] <greg> its against my principles
[07:36] <gnomefreak> martin: i would get it from thier site
[07:36] <newbie> graft
[07:36] <martin> gnomefreak: from gnucash site?
[07:36] <newbie> my domanda as I can build stacheldrath?
[07:36] <tarak> philips, cant do that, i have internet connection only for one PC, and that is my brothers one
[07:36] <gnomefreak> greg: well than i suggest you figure out your issues on your own. reading is a big part in ubuntu
[07:36] <dbrock> mcphail: what do you mean?  What program runs my default shell?
[07:36] <WD_Raptor> hey Hey
[07:36] <gnomefreak> martin: yes
[07:37] <Gollum> gnomefreak, hm, no place in powernowd i can scale down the performance.
[07:37] <martin> ok...
[07:37] <newbie> my domanda as I can build stacheldrath?
[07:37] <marshall> hey guys
[07:37] <boricua> ok i did a test and get this error Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'
[07:37] <martin> are there third party repositories for ubuntu?
[07:37] <gnomefreak> martin: you can also try freshmeat or that other one
[07:37] <sorush20> whatb program can I use to pronounce a word?
[07:37] <marshall> what is everyones favourite p2p app?
[07:37] <greg> frostwire
[07:37] <mcphail> dbrock: any time you log in (via gdm or whatever), all the programs which start are spawned from your default shell (which should be /bin/bash)
[07:37] <Gollum> Limewire, :)
[07:37] <sorush20> gtkgnutella
[07:37] <gnomefreak> martin: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:37] <gnomefreak> !easysource > martin
[07:37] <martin> ok. thanks gnomefreak
[07:37] <newbie> [19:37:25]  Nomi per #ubuntu: NIK0 MrBrizzio dmb kyja MrObvious mansfeld xhaan ompaul phatsphere lancetw [a] freebsd_fan Beta_M dj_fm rcmiv p0w4h kkaisare xice rpedro GigaByte_ aschimedes KillerDemon Sunderland BurgerMann Ziemas francesca whaley marcin_ant hybrid meff miteyMite herzi Adri2000 gottreu zcat Pensacola _gal-pal_ phaero fsmw amki ^lx^ Lorvija NthDegree valehru dra Lattyware Glutinous tiz
[07:37] <gnomefreak> martin: read your pm
[07:38] <dbrock> mcphail: what do you mean, all programs are spawned via my shell?  Does gdm spawn my window manager through my shell?
[07:38] <marshall> what ever happened to giFT on gnome?
[07:38] <mcphail> dbrock: yes
[07:38] <rattlecat> hello everyone
[07:38] <marshall> is there a gnome client for mldonket?
[07:38] <marshall> hi rattlecat
[07:38] <Gollum> gnomefreak, ok, i have powernowd,. will a app like cpufreqd work together with powernowd?
[07:38] <dbrock> mcphail: oh, okay... then thanks
[07:39] <gnomefreak> Gollum: i dont know never had to use any power dimming apps
[07:39] <rattlecat> does anyone know where to get that theme that makes windows semitransparent like in vista for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[07:39] <dmb> oh cmon, wtf
[07:39] <Gollum> ok
[07:39] <dmb> stop highliting me
[07:39] <gnomefreak> martin: its in the repos
[07:39] <gnomefreak> !info gift
[07:39] <ubotu> gift: metapackage for the giFT filesharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.8.1-1 (dapper), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB
[07:39] <mcphail> dbrock: try changing a user's shell (not your own!) to /bin/false . They won't be able to login in via terminal or gdm
[07:39] <gnomefreak> marshall: its in universe
[07:40] <martin> gnomefreak, in one of them, so I have to find out the right one...
[07:40] <rshakin> ok ppl maybe you know where does out look keep it's mail folder
[07:40] <mookid> thx cherubiel - I'm on xchat now :DD
[07:40] <dbrock> mcphail: ah!
[07:40] <gnomefreak> martin: ignore the last entry to you
[07:40] <exs> hello. how do I change the default window (nuetralis) s that is displays the current path in text?.. at the moment I have buttons as sub dirs.
[07:40] <gnomefreak> martin: for what?
[07:40] <marshall> gnomefreak: whats it called?
[07:40] <martin> gnomefreak: is there a repo haveing gnucash-2.x
[07:40] <gnomefreak> marshall: gift
[07:40] <martin> U will look at this
[07:40] <martin> s/U/I/
[07:40] <gnomefreak> marshall: try apt-cache search gift
[07:41] <cherubiel> mookid: cool dude, enjoy!
[07:41] <gnomefreak> martin: no you will have to get it from thier site or freshmeat or that other one
[07:41] <martin> ok, thanks
[07:41] <gnomefreak> ompaul: what is the name of that site that every9one uses
[07:41] <kishore> hi all
[07:41] <ompaul> plf?
[07:41] <gnomefreak> no the freshmeat type site
[07:41] <killown> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check  I don't succeed to compile because in that error
[07:41] <Gollum> hm, i am not satisfied with the applications that exists to controll the cpu
[07:42] <ompaul> gnomefreak, sourceforge
[07:42] <gnomefreak> ty
[07:42] <sethk> killown, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:42] <gnomefreak> martin: try sourceforge
[07:42] <martin> ok, thanks
[07:42] <martin> gnomefreak: you mean, build it myselfe?
[07:42] <killown> sethk thanks
[07:42] <kishore> audio and video not synchronizing in mplayer.. how to .. over come this
[07:42] <greg> mmn oatmeal
[07:42] <gnomefreak> martin: or find a deb on sourceforge or google for a deb
[07:42] <opexoc> Why I can't boot linux with a floppy diskette? When I try to then BIOS displays: "Direct booting from floppy is no longer supported. Please use a boot program instead." How can I change this?
[07:43] <martin> ok, thanks
[07:43] <gnomefreak> greg: if you want to have a general chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:44] <killown> sethk, thanks a lot
[07:44] <exs> I have a script someone has made.. how do I save it so I can rune it with ./script_name ?
[07:45] <cherubiel> exs: chmod +x scriptname;
[07:45] <cherubiel> then do a ./scriptname
[07:45] <tarak> i get error on my ubuntu that i dont have gcc and c compiler... can someone please suggest me one and tell me where can i get it? that machine is not connected to the internet, so i need a way to download it to a memory stick and then just install it on that machine
[07:46] <gnomefreak> tarak: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:46] <robertj> any telnet gurus in the house :)
[07:46] <gnomefreak> tarak: download it from packages.ubuntu.com under your dist version
[07:47] <tarak> gnomefreak, sudo apt-get needs internet, and that pc is NOT connected to the internet :(
[07:47] <calistos_28> Hi, I'm  running a Ubuntu 6.06 distro on a AMD64 processor. Whenever I try to watch some Youtube Videos I get a white screen where the video would be supposed to be played.
[07:47] <gnomefreak> tarak: read above
[07:47] <KRHTH19-IRAKLIO> hi!
[07:47] <tarak> cool, i just did :)
[07:47] <calistos_28> any idea about how could i see the youtube videos?
[07:47] <tarak> now i will see what can i do
[07:47] <gnomefreak> calistos_28: flash
[07:47] <jbroome> calistos_28: flash and x86_64 don't play well together
[07:47] <KRHTH19-IRAKLIO> pleeeeeeeease tell me what's the command for viewing the graphical desktop of xubuntu ???????
[07:48] <Byan> how do I close X?
[07:48] <calistos_28> jbroome & gnomefreak: so could it be that it'd be impossible for me to watch youtube videos?
[07:48] <gnomefreak> calistos_28: you will most likely not see them unless you run flash in chroot
[07:48] <Byan> or stop X server, rather
[07:48] <tarak> sorry, just one more question... Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is dapper package, right?
[07:48] <jbroome> Byan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:48] <killown> I want to install gtk+-2.0 but apt-get no found it what I do?
[07:48] <ompaul> KRHTH19-IRAKLIO, your all caps name extra es and ? do nothing for your question, here is one for you, what is happening/not happening
[07:48] <jbroome> tarak: yes
[07:48] <gnomefreak> Byan: /etv/init.d/gdm stop
[07:48] <gnomefreak> etc even
[07:48] <zeus> or kdm/xdm
[07:48] <gnomefreak> ompaul: thats why i didnt answer him
[07:48] <auTONYmous> anybody using the NTFS-3G setup for NTFS read/write?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> tarak: yes
[07:49] <greekuser> ok,
[07:49] <calistos_28> gnomefreak: then there's no plugin or package which could allow me to watch Youtube
[07:49] <killown> anyone help me?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> greg: try asking your question again in a civil manner
[07:49] <IIIEars> WB Dr_,
[07:49] <dmoyne> Herllo ! ; a guru about ldap on this chat room ?
[07:49] <cherubiel> calistos_28: install the flash plugin for your browser
[07:49] <ompaul>  here is one for you, what is happening/not happening are you seeing a login screen ?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> calistos_28: there are a few flash apps for 64bit but non really work
[07:49] <Tonren> hey martin , did you ever find a GNUCash 2.0 repo?
[07:49] <greekuser> I ve installed x ubuntu, i am at command line , how do i load the graphican user interface?  pleaseee
[07:50] <Byan> said stopping gnome [ ok ]  but gnome is still running...
[07:50] <gnomefreak> cherubiel: hes on 64
[07:50] <greekuser> yeap i , logged in
[07:50] <gnomefreak> Byan: did you use sudo?
[07:50] <greekuser> now what?
[07:50] <gubuntu> does anyone here have an ati card and xgl running correctly?
[07:50] <martin> Tonren: no
[07:50] <calistos_28> cherubiel: but the macromedia flash plugin doesn't work for AMD64
[07:50] <killown> what repository has gtk+-2.0?
[07:50] <martin> Tonren: I mad it for fedora once.
[07:50] <gnomefreak> greg: are you on dapper?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> !info  gtk+-2.0
[07:50] <cherubiel> got that :)
[07:50] <gnomefreak> greekuser: are you on dapper
[07:50] <ubotu> Package gtk-2.0 does not exist in any distro I know
[07:50] <Tonren> martin: If I could figure out how to reconcile the source check-install with my existing apt-get install, I'd do it
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> !info  gtk+
[07:50] <ubotu> Package gtk does not exist in any distro I know
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. wonder what the name is.
[07:50] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: libgtk?
[07:51] <cherubiel> ubotu: !info libgtk+
[07:51] <greekuser> yeap the last one! latest ver of xunbuntu
[07:51] <Byan> oh, oops
[07:51] <ubotu> Package libgtk does not exist in any distro I know
[07:51] <ompaul> greekuser do this, sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:51] <Byan> wtf...
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  to the apt-cache search bat man!
[07:51] <dmoyne> calistos_28: here it does because I found a site where to get a source to compile for it !
[07:51] <Byan> now it keeps saying connect-debounce failed, port 6 disabled..
[07:51] <ompaul> greekuser when done come back to us
[07:51] <Byan> over and over
[07:51] <greekuser> i installed the cd image of xubuntu
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> well that showed like 5000 items. :P
[07:51] <killown> ??
[07:51] <daniele_982> hello i've a big problem i've in the hdd sata winxp and in hdd ata Ubuntu but if launch the hdd ata compare only Ubuntu and not winxp same solutions?????
[07:51] <wasabi_> libgtk2-0
[07:51] <killown> Not exist gtk+-2.0 for ubuntu?
[07:51] <wasabi_> libgtk2.0-0
[07:52] <wasabi_> A simple apt-cache search would have shown that.
[07:52] <dmoyne> Again any expert in ldap as I have questions !
[07:52] <gubuntu> !info dingoui
[07:52] <ubotu> Package dingoui does not exist in any distro I know
[07:52] <Tonren> In fact, does anyone know about that?  How do you upgrade from an apt-get install to a source-built install without making apt angry?
[07:52] <daniele_982> help me!!!!!!!
[07:52] <calistos_28> dmoyne: where
[07:52] <killown> ok thanks
[07:52] <wasabi_> Tonren: What's that mean?
[07:52] <wasabi_> dmoyne: Go ahead.
[07:52] <gnomefreak> daniele_982: thats not a good way of getting help
[07:52] <tabma1> can I retrieve/change forgotten password ?
[07:52] <Byan> >_<
[07:52] <graft> daniele_982: calm down and rephrase your question so it's actually intelligible
[07:52] <sethk> tabma1, yes
[07:52] <Tonren> wasabi_: Well, I have GNUCash 1.8 installed via repository
[07:52] <sethk> tabma1, change, not retrieve
[07:52] <Byan> how do I stop the connect-debounces?
[07:53] <Tonren> wasabi_: But 2.0 isn't in the repos yet, and I'd like to just install it from source
[07:53] <sethk> tabma1, which password?
[07:53] <wasabi_> Oh. I can't help you with GNUcash.
[07:53] <wasabi_> Tonren: Okay?
[07:53] <Tonren> wasabi_: Well, it's not specifically a GNUCash problem.  It happens all the time.
[07:53] <wasabi_> Tonren: Just install it someplace else.
[07:53] <IIIEars> daniele_ We are all here to share info and help. - can you give some more information about what happened?
[07:53] <wasabi_> Tonren: Have it go into /opt/gnucash2, or /usr/local, or whatever you want.
[07:53] <tabma1> I I sethk: I used to login with the first user Ubuntu gives after installation, I have somehow lost the password
[07:53] <wasabi_> Just don't let it replace managed files (/usr)
[07:53] <gubuntu> If anyone has an ati card and xgl/compiz running correctly on ubuntu i would most appreciate a look at there x conf file (via pastebin), im about to throw my computer into a lake
[07:53] <Tonren> wasabi_: Yeah, but that's silly.  Why have two versions floating around?  Isn't there a way to get apt to play nice with check-install?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> gubuntu: try #ubuntu-xgl
[07:53] <wasabi_> gubuntu: What is your specific problem?
[07:54] <omnid> I hate you ATI!
[07:54] <sethk> tabma1, can you log in as root?  If not, we'll have to boot a live cd
[07:54] <wasabi_> Tonren: I know very little about check install. Why not have two versions?
[07:54] <graft> i think it's pretty much impossible to get it working well with ATI, gubuntu
[07:54] <sethk> tabma1, with the live cd we can set the password to empty
[07:54] <wasabi_> Tonren: If you want to build it yourself, I can't see anyreason not to put it in it's own dir.
[07:54] <gubuntu> wasabi_, cant get it working following the instructions supplied by "!xgl"
[07:54] <sethk> tabma1, if you can log in as root, we can just set the password
[07:54] <wasabi_> Tonren: You won't be getting updates automatically.
[07:54] <dmoyne> hopps I have to check ; here on firefox (mind you noy Konqueror) on site http://www.tfou.fr/ it works with no problem ; let me check what I did !
[07:54] <wasabi_> gubuntu: What is your specfic problem?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> gubuntu: ask your question in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:54] <gnomefreak> wasabi_: help him in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:54] <gubuntu> wasabi_, no devices found? play around with the conf, thne something avout PCI:3:0:1 and 3:0:0
[07:55] <Tonren> wasabi_: Well, I don't want two versions because I'm only going to be using one of them.
[07:55] <tabma1> sethk: I don't know the root password
[07:55] <daniele_982> graft: ,gnomefreak ok i'm italian !!!! Hdd sata=winxp,hdd ata=Ubuntu.I want choose the s.o but run only Ubuntu
[07:55] <sethk> tabma1, ok, then we'll need to use the live cd (or a rescue cd)
[07:55] <wasabi_> gubuntu: Do you h ave the proper Driver configured? ANd you have a single AGP card?
[07:55] <graft> !it
[07:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:55] <gubuntu> no help could be found in ubuntu-xgl, just asking if anyone here has it working and i could see their conf file
[07:55] <sethk> tabma1, what CDs do you have?
[07:55] <tabma1> sethk: but I never changed the root password, isn't there any default password for root, what to do after booting from liveCD ?
[07:55] <bastu> Hello, What is the easiest way to setup my ubuntu as an router?
[07:55] <wasabi_> tabma1: You could a) boot off a live CD, fix passwd or b) have grub drop you into a shell directly, no password required.
[07:55] <cherubiel> ubotu: !info libgtk+-2.0
[07:55] <ubotu> Package libgtk-2.0 does not exist in any distro I know
[07:55] <gubuntu> wasabi_, i have the driver correctly configured and i ahve 1 ati radeon x850pro agp card
[07:56] <sethk> tabma1, unfortunately, unless you use expert mode, the root password is not set by the install
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> when they start putting + in the library names.. they need slapped
[07:56] <wasabi_> gubuntu: Does Xorg work on its own with your current configuration?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> gubuntu: someone asked to see your config file but you ignored him
[07:56] <TEN> Could it be that kernel parameter noswap (on boot) is ignored under Xubuntu 6.06.1 (both Live DVD and installed) ? Found out that it kept accessing /dev/hda5 when I had to run badblocks -nsv
[07:56] <exs> Is there a sound recorder for ubuntu?
[07:56] <daniele_982> graft: is leggible now????
[07:56] <gubuntu> gnomefreak, i did notice, mirc, one sec
[07:56] <cherubiel> exs: audacity
[07:56] <bastu> Hello, What is the easiest way to setup my ubuntu as an router?
[07:56] <frederik> hi ... I just updated a system from breezy to dapper, kernel-image-2.6.15-26 got installed ... but doesn't boot. I get some error about the root partition not being available. An older 2.6.12 kernel still boots. Can anybody give me advice what to do?
[07:56] <sethk> tabma1, you can mount the root file system and set the password to empty, or you can chroot and set the password using the passwd utility
[07:56] <graft> daniele_982: no: you might want to try #ubuntu-it, they'll speak italian
[07:57] <killown> The required package gtk+-2.0 was not found on your system.
[07:57] <killown> :/
[07:57] <wahjava> hi channel
[07:57] <gnomefreak> wasabi_: you want to help him with xgl join #ubuntu-xgl and help him (xgl is offtopic in here)
[07:57] <sethk> tabma1, then, set the root password so you don't get into this absurd situation in the future.
[07:57] <wasabi_> killown: wasabi@kyoto:~$ apt-cache search libgtk2.0-0
[07:57] <tabma1> sethk: I have the liveCD, tell me the easiest method
[07:57] <dmoyne> wasabi_: ok I collected gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2 on a site and compile it according to detailed procedure !
[07:57] <killown> wasabi_ I installed it
[07:57] <sethk> tabma1, pm me
[07:57] <daniele_982> graft: but not resolution in #ubuntu-it
[07:57] <tabma1> pm ?
[07:58] <sethk> tabma1, private message
[07:58] <dmoyne> wasabi_: as this file is not to big I can send directly to you trogh ma chatter !
[07:58] <graft> daniele_982: ah. well, i can't understand your shorthand notation, what do you mean by 'choose s.o'?
[07:58] <sethk>    make a conversation between you and me
[07:58] <cherubiel> killown:  i remember  a libgtk+ -dev package
[07:58] <sethk> tabma1, are you using xchat?
[07:58] <wasabi_> dmoyne: I don't know what gplflash is, nor what your problem is.
[07:58] <cherubiel> isntall that
[07:58] <frederik> no one?
[07:58] <cherubiel> and you'l be good
[07:58] <and> holas
[07:58] <and> algien espaol?
[07:58] <sethk> !es
[07:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:58] <gnomefreak> and: join #ubuntu-es
[07:59] <and> gracias
[07:59] <daniele_982> graft: i want choose what Operating System to start
[07:59] <Cymage> i have a real strange situation, anyone want to try to help me figure it out?
[07:59] <graft> daniele_982: ok, are you using grub?
[07:59] <cherubiel> i guess ony psychics have a chance to helpothers :(
[07:59] <cherubiel> ony=only
[08:00] <daniele_982> graft: yes
[08:00] <graft> Cymage: we won't know until you tell us the situation
[08:00] <mind21_98> hi
[08:00] <Cymage> If I install Ubuntu on an external USB hard drive, it runs fine. If I try to install it on Internal, system locks up
[08:00] <graft> daniele_982: so... what's the probs then?
[08:00] <greekuser> can ANYONE please tell me what's the command that i type to ...load the xfce desktop interface for xubuntu ????/
[08:00] <mind21_98> so...my laptop suspended to disk fine. but i turn it on and it doesn't even look at any of that. do i need to do anything special (like another partition) to get it working?
[08:00] <dmoyne> wasabi_: this allows to play flash sites on x_64 machines with Firefox ; this is your concern is iot not ?
[08:00] <sethk> tabma1, are you still here?
[08:00] <martin> how to I install a deb if I have downloaded it?
[08:00] <wasabi_> dmoyne: No.
[08:00] <tabma1> sethk: yes I pm you
[08:00] <daniele_982> graft: grubs not see WinXp but only Ubuntu
[08:01] <graft> martin: sudo dpkg -i <deb>
[08:01] <cherubiel> martin: dpkg -i packageaname
[08:01] <sethk> tabma1, I don't see it.  is your nick registered with freenode?  if not, it won't pm
[08:01] <dmoyne> hoops your goahead was for my question on ldap ?
[08:01] <graft> daniele_982: did you put a section for winxp in your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[08:01] <XeniX> martin: Type sude dpkg -i <name of the .deb file>
[08:01] <martin> XeniX: thanks
[08:01] <sethk> dmoyne, don't ask to ask a question.  just ask your question
[08:01] <frederik> greekuser: well, startxfce should startxfce, if you're using gdm you should be able to select it from the session list
[08:01] <daniele_982> graft: no i not know how to do
[08:02] <sethk> tabma1, I just opened a window to you.  do you see it?
[08:02] <tabma1> sethk: yes, i'm not registered
[08:02] <frederik> greekuser: you could put this in your .xinitrc or somethign like that, with gdm, just select the session
[08:02] <Retnuh> hello all
[08:02] <sethk> tabma1, do you see the window I opened to you?
[08:02] <dmoyne> calistos_28: are you interested in having flash working with Firefox on x_64 machine
[08:02] <sethk> tabma1, if not, register your nick
[08:02] <tabma1> sethk: my other nick is registered, wait I'm coming again
[08:03] <IIIEars> daniele_982 - !grub      ubotu has the link. - I have to admire you linux can be challenging even when english is you first language.
[08:03] <sethk> tabma1, k
[08:03] <IIIEars> !grub
[08:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:03] <dmoyne> sethk: ma question about ldap : is it working with SSL ; no way here on Ubuntu Dapper ?
[08:03] <marshall> !secks
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about secks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <marshall> lol
[08:03] <calistos_28> dmoyne: actually i found a way installing synaptics32 and firefox32 but I'm afraid of messing up the 32bit & 64bits packages
[08:03] <wasabi_> dmoyne: I'm unsure what your LDAP question is about. Dapper has OpenLDAP. It fully supports SSL (and TLS)
[08:03] <calistos_28> dmoyne: do you know any other easier way?
[08:03] <Cymage> Any thoughts on why an Ubuntu install would run fine on an external hard drive but when i install on internal. after bout 5 mins X locks up and nothing works?\
[08:04] <tyr> what should I apt-get to get the source of the kernel to build something? Nvidia is asking for it
[08:04] <dmoyne> calistos_28: here it is 64 bit installation !
[08:04] <sethk> Cymage, there are so many reasons something like that might happen
[08:04] <bastu> Hello, What is the easiest way to setup Ubuntu as an router?
[08:04] <lmosher> Anyone here use ffmpeg?
[08:04] <graft> bastu: get someone else to do it for you
[08:04] <sethk> bastu, configure the network
[08:04] <dmoyne> wasabi_: you meran it works on your computer with TLS and SSL ?
[08:04] <Cymage> sethk, any suggestions on where to start looking?
[08:05] <tabman> sethk: see my window ?
[08:05] <sethk> Cymage, any help in the logs?  any messages after you reboot after a freeze?
[08:05] <dv_> hi
[08:05] <wasabi_> dmoyne: Your questions are odd.
[08:05] <calistos_28> dmoyne: so, my mean and yours was the same one?
[08:06] <Cymage> No logs created on crash. just freezes. had system monitor up and doesnt show any high usage of anything either
[08:06] <dmoyne> calistos_28: I can send my file about gplflash and you try !
[08:06] <marshall> does anybody know how to make the Azureus warnings go away? when i click hide nothing happens
[08:06] <cherubiel> bastu: firestarter for NAT(guidedog does NAT too) - guarddog does firewall with iptables, dnsmasq(also serves as a dhco server)
[08:06] <IIIEars> lmosher - ffmpeg is the decoder code buried in nrly everything. - enabling universe communitty supported and installing gstreamer plugins "good" bad" and "ugly" should get you into business.
[08:06] <graft> bastu: i'm not sure the stock kernel supports NAT and such... you might have to roll your own
[08:06] <IIIEars> !restrictedformats
[08:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:06] <dmoyne> wasabi_: if you can help me fixing Openldap server for TLS  SSL I would appreciate
[08:07] <marshall> does anybody know how to make the Azureus warnings go away? when i click hide nothing happens
[08:07] <Cymage> the laptop i am installing on has SATA internal 40 gig hd
[08:07] <caseyomah> How do you change the default program to play DVDs?
[08:07] <DamnSon> does anyone know why my ubuntu install freezes at the "select a disk" step? ive seen a few posts on forums about it but none of them had any solutions
[08:07] <Cymage> dont know if that would be a prob
[08:07] <lmosher> IIIEars, Great. I'm using it alongside makemenu and makexml, but even when ffmpeg outputs a 16:9 video as desired the video on the DVD is full screen. If I replace the ffmpeg command with tovid it works file (video is fullscreen)
[08:08] <Flannel> DamnSon: did you burn the CD yourself?
[08:08] <lmosher> s+file+fine+
[08:08] <DamnSon> yeah
[08:08] <Flannel> DamnSon: check the md5 of the iso, reburn at 4x, check the disk
[08:09] <DamnSon> alright
[08:09] <Flannel> DamnSon: or at least, thats usually the problem
[08:09] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Well that explains a lot. Hard to make a borked sound card work. :)
[08:09] <IIIEars> lmosher - psst, don't tell anyone i am a linux wimp. a quick apt-get wxvlc is all i know
[08:09] <dmoyne> wasabi_: can you help me for my Ldap problem !
[08:10] <tr0nic> hello does anyone know which ISO image I should download for installation on a laptop
[08:10] <caseyomah> BlueEagle, Yeah, BTW: how do I change the default DVD player? (autorun)
[08:10] <looktj> what is softphone?
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> tr0nic,  the normal one. :P theres no special laptop iso
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> tr0nic,  alternative install cd. or desktop cd. or server cd.
[08:10] <tr0nic> whats it called i see desktop 64 and 386
[08:10] <BlueEagle> tr0nic: The desktop live cd or the alternate cd (according to your preference) and version for your architecture.
[08:10] <tr0nic> desktop cd?
[08:10] <tr0nic> ok ty
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> tr0nic,  64 uses the 64 bit hardware..  proberly not needed
[08:10] <tr0nic> right
[08:10] <tr0nic> ty
[08:11] <wasabi_> dmoyne: Again, as I've said about 3 times, you haven't said what your problem is.
[08:11] <tr0nic> whats the difference between the desktop and the alternate cd
[08:11] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: That would depend on the program afaik.
[08:11] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: either that or you'll have to read up on configuring udev
[08:11] <Flannel> tr0nic: the alternate has a textmode installer, instead of the liveCD installer
[08:11] <caseyomah> BlueEagle, Changing from Totem to VLC.
[08:11] <IIIEars> If you were wildly worried about install problems. the alternate install CD offers the old fashioned conservative style text based install.
[08:11] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: iirc nautilus should autorun all removable media.
[08:11] <tr0nic> i want that ty
[08:11] <tr0nic> like the redhat textinstall
[08:12] <dmoyne> my problem is that I cannot make a connection with SSL though I have installed certificates
[08:12] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: oh, the default application to execute with a dvd movie?
[08:12] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: I was thinking hardware. :p
[08:12] <tr0nic> i'm installing it onto a new laptop xp is installed on this laptop it will be able to make it dual boot won't it?
[08:12] <caseyomah> BlueEagle, Yeah, where in Nautilus do I change the program?
[08:12] <sbuckell> hi :)
[08:12] <lepirlouit> hellow everybody
[08:12] <lepirlouit> i'm new on ubuntu
[08:12] <Stuart`> Just installed Ubu...   I like it ;)
[08:12] <Flannel> !tell tr0nic about dualboot
[08:12] <BlueEagle> lepirlouit: welcome.
[08:12] <tr0nic> ty
[08:13] <tr0nic> v efficient
[08:13] <caseyomah> Stuart`, It's great, I've been in it about a week and two of my boxes are Ubuntu now.
[08:13] <Stuart`> After trying SuSE 10.1, Fedora 4/5  I prefer it.
[08:13] <lepirlouit> I dont believe why I dont install it earlier
[08:13] <Gumby> can anyone tell me what user:group web pages should have for apache2 in ubuntu?
[08:13] <Flannel> Gumby: www-data for both
[08:13] <dmoyne> wasabi_: my connection through port 636 is not accepted and I have no clue regarding the cause !
[08:13] <Flannel> Gumby: of course, the don't need that.  They just have to be readable by www-data
[08:13] <Stuart`> Casey. agrred.   It's very good.   But I'll stick to SuSE 9.3/Fedora4  for the web servers
[08:13] <DamnSon> Flannel: the md5 is correct, so you just recommend burning it at a slower speed?
[08:13] <Flannel> DamnSon: yeah, 4x is a good speed
[08:13] <Gumby> Flannel: ok, thats what I thought.  Just making sure :)
[08:14] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: System->settings->removable drives under the "Multimedia tab"
[08:14] <DamnSon> i should really buy some cd-r's heh
[08:14] <BlueEagle> "multimedia" tab
[08:14] <DamnSon> i dont wanna waste a dvd-r, and all the mirrors i've tried for the dvd-install are super slow
[08:14] <lepirlouit> roel hello
[08:14] <wasabi_> dmoyne: Probably need to a) set up a certificate and b) tell slapd to listen on 636 and c) use TLS instead
[08:14] <Stuart`> I have just installed and realised about installing ATI drivers, but once i'd already installed everything... So the system knows I have ATI now.  Any other ways to install proper 3d without buggering it all up?
[08:14] <caseyomah> BlueEagle, Thanks, I keps looking under Default Applications. lol
[08:14] <tyr> what should I apt-get to get the source of the kernel to build something? Nvidia is asking for it
[08:15] <Flannel> DamnSon: try the torrent
[08:15] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: :)
[08:15] <Clawfinger> Is there anyone who can walk me through setting up aMSN? I've tried so many techniques now and so far they're all failing.
[08:15] <DamnSon> yeah, that was the first thing i tried, i'll try it again though
[08:15] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: don't know how to make vlc take it. Not sure which parameters you need. :/
[08:15] <tyr> Clawfinger: ask me in priv
[08:15] <dmoyne> wasabi_: do you have Openldap server running with SSL on you computer ?
[08:16] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know why nautilus crashes when browsing folders that have .swf files in them?
[08:16] <Stuart`> bug? :)
[08:16] <caseyomah> BlueEagle, I'm pretty sure if I just throw %d at it it will figure it out.
[08:16] <Stuart`> probably tries to preview.
[08:16] <Stuart`> Corp, does it crash with List?
[08:16] <caseyomah> BlueEagle, Yup.
[08:16] <DamnSon> hmm...thats strange...i dont see the dvd releases anymore
[08:16] <DamnSon> oh..there they are, there just isnt a United States link, heh
[08:16] <mookid> hmmm why is my flash update fuckin up? :(
[08:16] <dmoyne> wasabi_: seconde question what is the difference between SS with certificates and TLS ?
[08:17] <Flannel> !language
[08:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:17] <bastu> Hello. I have a problem with my scsi sata harddrive. Can someone please help me, PM me, please!
[08:17] <Stuart`> SCSI SATA?  It's only one or the other...?
[08:17] <Clawfinger> hey tyr i'm kinda new to x-chat so i don't really know how to send whispers
[08:17] <wasabi_> dmoyne: TLS is Transport Layer Security, widely viewed as the "more appropiate" way to use SSL. The SSL session is established after a plain text session... on the same port.
[08:17] <DamnSon> Flannel: english is english right? :)
[08:17] <Flannel> DamnSon: http://www.ubuntu.com/download  scroll all the way down to the bottom, they have their own mirror pages
[08:17] <Stuart`> Bastu - do you have SCSI or/  SATA?
[08:17] <wasabi_> dmoyne: But the encryption itself is exactly the same.
[08:17] <bastu> hehe... it says scsi sata.. but i guess sata
[08:17] <Stuart`> :-)
[08:17] <bastu> =)
[08:17] <bastu> please help me
[08:18] <Stuart`> whats problem with it
[08:18] <DamnSon> yeah, thats the page i'm at right now
[08:18] <bastu> Pm me?
[08:18] <Corporal_Dirge> Stuart`, Yes, it crashes with list.
[08:18] <DamnSon> i just missed it because I didn't see a "United States" link
[08:18] <dmoyne> wasabi_: do you know of a goos tutorial for me to review what I did for Ubuntu Dapper ?
[08:18] <sorush20> why do I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22450
[08:18] <Stuart`> Corporal - hmm.  Latest kernel and other updates?
[08:18] <xuazneguer> hi... im i installed ubuntu 5.10.. but my serial mouse does work.. i altered xorg with /dev/ttyS0 and protocol Microsoft.. but still doesnt work.. can someone help me?
[08:18] <Stuart`> There are patches to Gnome i've just dl'ed also
[08:19] <Stuart`> you using gnome?
[08:19] <Corporal_Dirge> Stuart`, It's been crashing since forever, any kernel.
[08:19] <wasabi_> dmoyne: No. Ubutnu's OpenLDAP doesn't differ at all from Debian's, and Debians is mostly standard. Any OPenLDAP tutorial will provide useful information.
[08:19] <Stuart`> Strange... :-/
[08:19] <Stuart`> Anyone else with the same problems@forums?
[08:19] <ucordes> when i try to modprobe my upgraded madwifi driver i get 'invalid module format' 3 times. i used the ubuntu guide from the madwifi user docs (http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu) what did i do wrong?
[08:19] <dmoyne> wasabi_: ok I will go again trough Debian info ; thanks !
[08:19] <Clawfinger> tyr: i sent you a priv
[08:20] <Corporal_Dirge> Stuart`, Yes, lots of people mention it in forums, but no solution is ever offered.
[08:20] <tyr> Clawfinger: cant see it
[08:20] <Clawfinger> hmm
[08:20] <Stuart`> Maybe there is no solution yet...   Have you tried other GUI's
[08:20] <Clawfinger> i opened your dialog window and sent 3 messages
[08:20] <Stuart`> or just gnome?
[08:20] <pkaushik> Hi channel
[08:21] <Stuart`> Hello.
[08:21] <Flannel> You can't send messages unless youre registered and identified (to freenode), /msg nickserv help register for details
[08:21] <Corporal_Dirge> Stuart`, Are you suggesting that in order to browse around my foulders I should switch GUIs?
[08:21] <Clawfinger> ah i see
[08:21] <pkaushik> Stuart`, hi :)
[08:21] <mookid> does anyone know when adobe are going to fix linux + flash so that you can see version 9 stuff?
[08:21] <Stuart`> Im not suggesting anything... I mearly asked so that I could establish if it was a KDE or Gnome problem.. or neither :-)
[08:21] <xuazneguer> anyone? im desesperate :(
[08:21] <cherubiel> Corporal_Dirge: are you having problems when browsing folders with swf files, or is it a general issue?
[08:21] <caseyomah> BlueEagle, Is there a way to install a CSS (DVD Copy protection) codec?
[08:22] <Clawfinger> hmm i need a new nick this one is taken
[08:22] <pkaushik> How do I change default alsa control from "Headphone" to "Front" since "Headphone" is not functional on my laptop
[08:22] <Flannel> !tell caseyomah about css
[08:22] <pkaushik> ?
[08:22] <Clawfinger> tyr: i will make a new nick register it and pm you.
[08:22] <miyumi> can anyone tell me how to create apt/preferences?
[08:22] <ralist> !tell ralist about css
[08:22] <Corporal_Dirge> Just with swf folders. But some folders have swf by categrashory with subfolders that are now unreachable by nautilus..
[08:22] <cherubiel> mookid: beta to be available by year end
[08:22] <mookid> excellent
[08:22] <mookid> any news abuot mac aswell?
[08:23] <caseyomah> Thanks Flannel.
[08:23] <mookid> i'm a webdesigner and it's certainly holding us back :'(
[08:23] <pkaushik> How do I change default alsa control from "Headphone" to "Front" since "Headphone" is not functional on my laptop ?
[08:24] <Hexidigital> how do i install the KDE headers for Qt?
[08:24] <mookid> cherubiel: where abouts can i find news of this beta? :o
[08:25] <cherubiel> http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/05/yes_virginia_th.cfm :P
[08:25] <mookid> also - does anyone know of a way of making scrolls directly on the desktop switch up and down"
[08:25] <mookid> like on nubuntu
[08:25] <Pyraine> tyr did you get my message this time?
[08:27] <Pyraine> Argh, can anyone guide me through installing aMSN? I've tried so many techniques and I'm just plain failing.
[08:28] <cherubiel> Pyraine: add the universe repo; apt-get update; apt-get install amsn
[08:28] <caseyomah> Pyraine, I would, but I've never used it, I use Gaim, which is a multi-messenger that supports MSNM.
[08:28] <brucedes> Hi, I'm using a live cd to fix a friends computer, and I need to know how to mount an ntfs partition so I can copy some files off and burn them to a DVD
[08:28] <holy_cow> how would I find out the version of dbus-sharp I have installed (using apt-get or whatever)?
[08:28] <Pyraine> how do i add the universe repo?
[08:29] <caseyomah> brucedes, ntfs-g3
[08:29] <cherubiel> show your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[08:29] <cherubiel> on a pastebin
[08:29] <caseyomah> brucedes, You can look it up in the how-tos on the ubuntu forums.
[08:29] <brucedes> never mind, used the disks app to mount it
[08:29] <brucedes> thanks anyway
[08:30] <Daveyboy> hi
[08:30] <phiber_optic> does anybody know if amarok has a equalizer?
[08:30] <caseyomah> brucedes, It will be read-only.
[08:30] <brucedes> I see that
[08:30] <Daveyboy> anyone familiar with vsftp
[08:30] <mookid> what's all this repo stuff about?
[08:31] <IIIEars> brucedes - cdrecord is the command line program many guis use for cd burning
[08:31] <nickkrym> hi, i want to buy a wireless NIC, which ones does ubuntu support best? I also need to use it with kismet
[08:31] <brucedes> the burning is alright, its the mounting
[08:31] <brucedes> I try to open it and it says I don't have the permissions necessary to view the folder "ntfs" (The mount point)
[08:31] <IIIEars> !winmac_fstab
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winmac_fstab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <nickkrym> hi, i want to buy a wireless NIC, which ones does ubuntu support best? I also need to use it with kismet, so it cant be through ndiswrapper
[08:31] <IIIEars> !mounter
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mounter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <caseyomah> brucedes, you have to be root to browse ntfs on the built-in tools.
[08:32] <Daveyboy> what is the ubuntu server channel name?
[08:32] <brucedes> never mind, got it working
[08:32] <brucedes> again: thanks alot for the help :)
[08:32] <cablesm102> Is it just me or is Ubuntuforums down?
[08:32] <jbroome> Daveyboy: this one
[08:32] <caseyomah> No problem.
[08:32] <IIIEars> gksudo nautilus /media/sda    ?
[08:32] <nickkrym> hi, i want to buy a wireless NIC, which ones does ubuntu support best? I also need to use it with kismet, so it cant be through ndiswrapper
[08:32] <Daveyboy> oo thre use to be a seperate channel for ubuntu server
[08:32] <cherubiel> !info wireless
[08:32] <cablesm102> nickkrym, try one with an Atheros chipset
[08:33] <ubotu> Package wireless does not exist in any distro I know
[08:33] <nickkrym> thank you
[08:33] <IIIEars> !ndiswrapper
[08:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:33] <EmxBA> anyone in her is american?
[08:33] <Daveyboy> anyway..trying to set ftp root folder in vsftp
[08:33] <cablesm102> me
[08:33] <cablesm102> Is it just me or is Ubuntuforums down?
[08:33] <ucordes> when i try to modprobe my upgraded madwifi driver i get 'invalid module format' 3 times. i used the ubuntu guide from the madwifi user docs (http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu) what did i do wrong?
[08:33] <cablesm102> I was looking for a doc on there and I can't get it
[08:33] <phiber_optic> which is the best media player for music?
[08:33] <nickkrym> caffeine
[08:34] <choosedeath> amarok
[08:34] <cablesm102> I like amarok
[08:34] <manopulus> phiber_optic, mplayer :)
[08:34] <caseyomah> xmms
[08:34] <quovadis_a> VLC
[08:34] <EmxBA> video lan client
[08:34] <cablesm102> really personal preference
[08:34] <EmxBA> yap
[08:34] <Ribs> phiber_optic, Depends. Do you want total music managment, or something to just play a tune at a time?
[08:34] <cablesm102> as you can see
[08:34] <ucordes> rythmbox
[08:34] <phiber_optic> choosedeath, does amarok has equalizer
[08:34] <nexact> winamp, lol. :] 
[08:34] <phiber_optic> ribbs total music management
[08:34] <EmxBA> yap
[08:34] <manopulus> phiber_optic, mplayer is universal, can pla streams, can play any formats. xmms not bad only for music
[08:34] <caseyomah> wine winamp? Why? Just use xmms.
[08:34] <choosedeath> good question phiber...i really dunno
[08:34] <cablesm102> i think he was joking
[08:35] <cablesm102> is anyone having problems playing WMV with VLC?
[08:35] <phiber_optic> the thing right now I have xmms, but i was wondering if amarok has equalizer such as xmms
[08:35] <caseyomah> Worked fine for me.
[08:35] <nexact> im using xine for wmv
[08:35] <manopulus> btw not bad is xfmedia
[08:35] <cablesm102> i'm sure amarok does
[08:35] <manopulus> which coming with xfce4
[08:35] <phiber_optic> cablesm102, but where u able to configure it?
[08:35] <IIIEars> cablsman - yes, even after installing the necessary w32codecs
[08:35] <cablesm102> configure eq?
[08:35] <phiber_optic> caus last time when I install it it didnt have equalizer
[08:35] <phiber_optic> this was like 6 months ago
[08:36] <cablesm102> hmm
[08:36] <lens> this is kinda a newb question... but in WINE... where should I put the missing DLL files I downloaded?
[08:36] <cablesm102> I remember having one
[08:36] <cablesm102> i'll try to find it
[08:36] <phiber_optic> cablesm102, let me know
[08:36] <manopulus> lens, in system32
[08:36] <nexact> i'm running a lamp box, i want to use it to share internet in my network, what do I need to do to setup it like a router.. ? enabling nat translation?
[08:36] <lens> ah that's what I thought... thanks manopulus
[08:36] <caseyomah> lens, ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32
[08:36] <manopulus> lens, ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32, like this...
[08:37] <cherubiel> ubotu: !info router
[08:37] <ubotu> Package router does not exist in any distro I know
[08:37] <phiber_optic> cablesm102, Ill intall it an try to search for it
[08:37] <caseyomah> !info internet connection sharing
[08:37] <ubotu> Package internet does not exist in dapper
[08:37] <lens> cool thanks... that' where I thought they went, but I wanted to make sure. thanks!
[08:37] <cablesm102> phiber, I can't find it. I'm searching too :)
[08:37] <IIIEars> nexact - squid proxy ???
[08:37] <caseyomah> !info ics
[08:37] <ubotu> Package ics does not exist in any distro I know
[08:37] <caseyomah> !info nat
[08:37] <cablesm102> i know it's there, though...
[08:37] <ubotu> Package nat does not exist in any distro I know
[08:37] <phiber_optic> Where's the equalizer?
[08:38] <phiber_optic>     The Equalizer Window can be found in the right mouse button menu. You can also find it in the Menubar by selecting Tools->Equalizer.
[08:38] <caseyomah> I've done it before.
[08:38] <phiber_optic> cablesm102, can it play online feeds? such as di.fm?
[08:38] <cablesm102> I really don't know, I haven't tried it for that.
[08:38] <cablesm102> there's probably a plugin for that
[08:39] <Corporal_Dirge> phiber_optic, I'm playing an online feed through VLC..
[08:39] <manopulus> btw
[08:39] <manopulus> how to play autio stream (radio) with BMP?
[08:39] <exs> does anyone know of a hidden charector?.. I want to have an icon on my desktop without a visible description at the bottom
[08:39] <XVirus> what user account does apache2 uses ?
[08:40] <manopulus> exs it is character named shy
[08:40] <manopulus> exs, and you can use character viewer to find it (search)
[08:40] <exs> manopulus:  ok, how do I get this?
[08:40] <phiber_optic> cablesm102, do i have to be in kde to use amarok?
[08:40] <cablesm102> nope. Installing amarok under GNOME will install the necessary KDE components for GNOME
[08:40] <LazyAngel> has anyone of you installed gaim beta trough alien?
[08:41] <hockyhair> there are ports open that i specficily am blocking in firestarter
[08:41] <Roh81> Im completely new to linux and was hoping someone could help me with installing a game on ubuntu.
[08:41] <cablesm102> Roh, what game?
[08:41] <zeus> Roh81: man wine
[08:41] <wubrgamer> hey guys, how do i completely remove something in apt-get on the command line ?
[08:41] <Roh81> Its a linux game
[08:41] <wubrgamer> is it apt-get remove ? or something more complete ?
[08:41] <cablesm102> zeus, how do you know it's a windows game?
[08:41] <jbroome> apt-get remove foo --purge
[08:41] <wubrgamer> what is foo ?
[08:41] <CVirus> what use account does apache2 create for its access ?
[08:42] <CVirus> user*
[08:42] <cablesm102> foo is just filler
[08:42] <wubrgamer> oh
[08:42] <wubrgamer> lol
[08:42] <wubrgamer> of course
[08:42] <wubrgamer> thank you
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> foo = example name. :P
[08:42] <cablesm102> replace it with whatever you want to kill
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> Heh.
[08:42] <wubrgamer> thank you
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> wubrgamer,  what are ya trying to remove?
[08:42] <cablesm102> Roh, what game?
[08:42] <wubrgamer> oh
[08:42] <Roh81> cube 2
[08:42] <cablesm102> eh
[08:42] <cablesm102> hold on
[08:42] <wubrgamer> i'm writing a script for setting up a friends system
[08:42] <holy_cow> anyone installed banshee?
[08:42] <exs> manopulus:  that still doesn't help
[08:42] <cablesm102> did you look for it in Synaptic?
[08:42] <wubrgamer> so it'll install and remove some crap software
[08:42] <holy_cow> I'm having problems with dbus-sharp not being in the GAC
[08:43] <wubrgamer> USE AMAROK SO MUCH BETTER THAN BANSHEE
[08:43] <PenguinOfDoom> Is it possible to install dapper server just by running an executable from an already-running copy of Linux?
[08:43] <Roh81> actually no. I downloaded and extracted it. problem is properly running the install file.
[08:43] <Roh81> I dont know how to navigate at the prompt yet.
[08:43] <cablesm102> okay
[08:43] <holy_cow> I'm in gnome so amarok isn't a great option
[08:43] <cablesm102> hold on
[08:43] <cablesm102> i'm looking for it in the repos
[08:44] <Roh81> actually ill check syn for it. thats a good idea.
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> PenguinOfDoom,  well if the e4xecutable is qemu, and you give it the .iso image to boot.. perhaps. :P
[08:44] <cablesm102> holy cow, Amarok should work, it just has craploads of deps
[08:44] <LazyAngel> hrmf. gaim beta 3.1 rpm won't install :(
[08:44] <wubrgamer> amarok is so great
[08:44] <LazyAngel> annyone else done it, or have you used the tar.gz?
[08:44] <cablesm102> Roh, you new to Ubuntu?
[08:45] <cherubiel> LazyAngel: build it from the source
[08:45] <exs> Is there a OSX equlivant to the start bar thing?.. because I don't like desktop icons, but I need them to be there.. I want to hide them, til I need to click on them
[08:45] <Roh81> Not there cablesm
[08:45] <nexact> mmm, in which file I can set which ethernet interface is using dhcp or static ip.. ?
[08:45] <cablesm102> that's a problem
[08:45] <holy_cow> cablesm102: i guess i will try it and the 111mb of deps :)
[08:45] <cablesm102> yep
[08:45] <cablesm102> it's worth it :)
[08:45] <Xenguy> LazyAngel: if source, remember to try building with the 'checkinstall' tool
[08:45] <cablesm102> Roh, what's the filename
[08:45] <holy_cow> rhythm box isn't lighting my fire ;)
[08:46] <phiber_optic> lol i just installed amarok and it didnt work
[08:46] <Roh81> mind if I Im you cab? Im not good in open channels.
[08:46] <phiber_optic> lots of error
[08:46] <cablesm102> Roh, I'm not good at IRC. No idea how to do that. But you can Gtalk me at caleb.marcus@gmail.com
[08:46] <Roh81> its simple watch
[08:47] <Roh81> You notice the tab come up with my name cablesm?
[08:48] <LazyAngel> cherubiel, Xenguy thanks. i'll do the checkinstall thing
[08:48] <aburton> I have two SATA hard drives.  The first has four partitions (in order: /, swap, home, FAT32) and the second has two partitions (/windows, FAT32) here's my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22390 When I try to boot into windows, it gives me a "filesystem type unknown, partiion type 0x7" error. can anyone help, please?
[08:48] <cablesm102> Roh, nope.
[08:48] <Roh81> Oh well.
[08:48] <cablesm102> Roh, if you have the filename, just type sudo sh (insert file path here)
[08:48] <cablesm102> that should run the installer
[08:49] <Roh81> I have that part. problem is I dont think it works from root.
[08:49] <Roh81> and I dont know how to navigate in terminal yet.
[08:49] <cablesm102> okay, then get rid of the sudo.
[08:49] <RyanTMulligan> Anyone know where I can learn about dual-head with XGL?
[08:49] <peabody> Is there a way for me to setup a duplicate kernel of the one I have now, but one that's seperate from my stable one so I can compile kernel modules to it?
[08:50] <burhan> RyanTMulligan: probably compiz.net or #ubuntu-xgl. There is nothing specific you must do, just setup dual head as normal.
[08:50] <Roh81> The instructions say to just use ./filename
[08:50] <phiber_optic> how is rythmbox?
[08:50] <cablesm102> Roh, . means the current directory
[08:50] <RyanTMulligan> burhan: compiz.net doesn't seem to have any good tutorials about it.
[08:50] <cablesm102> so cd to the correct directory
[08:50] <RyanTMulligan> burhan: thanks for the irc chat though
[08:50] <cablesm102> then you can use ./filename
[08:50] <Roh81> O_O
[08:50] <burhan> RyanTMulligan: what do you want want to setup though? just dual head?
[08:50] <cablesm102> okay, sorry.
[08:50] <Roh81> linux uses cd?
[08:50] <cablesm102> yep
[08:51] <cablesm102> where's the file?
[08:51] <Roh81> I know the pack
[08:51] <RyanTMulligan> burhan: Dual head monitors, same graphics card. I had it working before I installed xgl and compiz
[08:51] <burhan> no reason it should stop now.
[08:51] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i have a question
[08:51] <wubrgamer> if i have a script
[08:51] <burhan> I have dual head working xgl + compiz + nvidia
[08:51] <cablesm102> if you stick it on the desktop, just type sh ~/filename
[08:51] <aburton> anyone?
[08:51] <cablesm102> dabmn
[08:51] <cablesm102> nope
[08:51] <RyanTMulligan> burhan: Well, I don't know. XGL decided to only use one screen
[08:51] <wubrgamer> and it's got executabile privilege on my computer
[08:51] <RyanTMulligan> burhan: I have ati.
[08:51] <wubrgamer> if i email it to my friend
[08:51] <cablesm102> i mean ~/Desktop/filename
[08:52] <wubrgamer> will he have to make it executable in nautilus ?
[08:52] <wubrgamer> or will he be able to just run it ?
[08:52] <Roh81> lemme try that cab
[08:52] <burhan> wubrgamer: yes, and next time, compose a complete thought and don't use the enter key as punctuation.
[08:52] <wubrgamer> sry
[08:52] <RyanTMulligan> burhan: now when I do aticonfig --dtop=horizontal (which is supposed to setup 1 head, multi monitor) it just fails to start xgl by timeout.
[08:53] <bjohag> still cant come online with xubuntu ... does anyone know why the network card works when you boot from the CD but not from the hard drive?
[08:53] <amonkey> i'm going through dependency hell trying to get kdelibs4-dev  to install. how can i get -dev packages when they aren't as new as their main packages?
[08:53] <burhan> RyanTMulligan: its probably editing your xorg config and taking out some stuff.
[08:53] <Juhaz> wubrgamer, it will not be executable, unless he's using totally insane braindead e-mail client that should be outlawed and exiled to windows-land
[08:53] <cablesm102> bjohag, no idea. Have you gone to System>Admin>Networking?
[08:53] <wubrgamer> no, not like .exe
[08:53] <aburton> hello?
[08:53] <wubrgamer> i mean like 777
[08:54] <RyanTMulligan> burhan: probably. thanks, I continue asking on #ubuntu-xgl
[08:54] <Juhaz> so do I.
[08:54] <burhan> wubrgamer: either way, he'll have chmod it.
[08:54] <burhan> RyanTMulligan: also try on #xgl
[08:54] <cablesm102> Roh81, any luck?
[08:54] <Ackeubu_> hey whats the name of the batterymonitor app? or is it an applet? and can i then run it in fluxbox?
[08:55] <burhan> Ackeubu_: for flux, you'll need a wxdoc applet (I think)
[08:55] <phiber_optic> does anybody know how to change the default streamer in firefox??
[08:55] <aburton> phiber_optic: what for?
[08:55] <Ackeubu_> burhan: thanks
[08:56] <Harper> hey guys
[08:56] <Sunderland> hey harper
[08:56] <Harper> i need a bit of help
[08:56] <Harper> its nothing really
[08:56] <phiber_optic> aburton,  because it keeps asking me to open with rythmbox but i want it to automatically open with xmms
[08:56] <burhan> phiber_optic: you can edit that in the preferences of firefox.
[08:56] <Harper> i just got xgl and compiz to work on my px
[08:56] <Harper> pc
[08:57] <phiber_optic> burhan, i was looking over there but I seem to find it
[08:57] <Harper> but now i lost the maximize button exit button and the minimize button on top of each window
[08:57] <IIIEars> phiber_Optic - does right clicking on that file and selecting properties enable you to pick a different app?
[08:57] <Pyraine> Is there a sudo command to use a zip file to extract to a restricted folder?
[08:57] <Harper> and each window seems to be locked in place
[08:57] <bastu>  Hello! I have a problem with my sata harddrive. Anyone here who knows alot about sata harddrives and booting?
[08:58] <phiber_optic> IIIEars, well I can sear for the application.. but if I do it only shows me rythmbox
[08:58] <Harper> be back later
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> bastu: what is the prob
[08:58] <IIIEars> gconf-editor *might*  be worth a look if not eh?
[08:58] <aburton> bastu: yeah, I have a question too
[08:58] <burhan> phiber_optic: Edit > Preferences, Downloads tab, View & Edit Actions
[08:59] <bastu> Jack_sparrow: The problem is that if i add my other 2 HDD's ubuntu wont boot. It says that it cant find root (dev/sda1)
[08:59] <IIIEars> phiber_optic - this has got to be a simple question for an experienced linux user. - too bad that isn't me.
[08:59] <Paddy_EIRE> he guy Ive just been reading the 'Ubuntu Certified Engineer' wiki and could not find any details on getting this qualification??....anyone there know where i may get this
[08:59] <phiber_optic> burhan, I went there but there isnt any association with rythmbox
[08:59] <bastu> aburton: did you see what i wrote to jack?
[08:59] <Jack_Sparrow> bastu:  Correct because you are changint the effective ext partition that Ubuntu is on
[08:59] <burhan> phiber_optic: probably rhythm box is the default player in gnome, and you'll have to edit the settings there.
[09:00] <sdali> Good day people. Can someone please tell me the default permissions of the /tmp directory? I mangled mine playing with rsync. I chmod'd mine to 1777 but now it shows up in green reverse video when I do an "ls -l". ANyone know why?
[09:00] <bastu> ok how can i figure out which one that is?
[09:00] <Jack_Sparrow> aburton: no I just walked in the door and sweating like a piglet
[09:00] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: ok how can i figure out which one that is?
[09:00] <burhan> sdali: because its set to be executable.
[09:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Boot live cd and run gparted
[09:00] <Descentio1> why does my ubuntu server ask for a username and pass when i try to connect to it from windowsXP -> My Network Places
[09:00] <bastu> dammit.. i have no live CD here...
[09:00] <phiber_optic> how do I change the defaults??
[09:00] <cherubiel> aburton: try adding these to the windows entry
[09:00] <Jack_Sparrow> look at how your partitions are set and edit grub boot
[09:01] <cherubiel> map (hd0) (hd1)
[09:01] <cherubiel> map (hd1) (hd0)
[09:01] <cherubiel> watch the spaces
[09:01] <phiber_optic> cause I tried searching /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[09:01] <phiber_optic> but its not there either
[09:01] <sdali> burhan: It's reverse video though, not just green
[09:01] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: Do you have any idea what it could be called?
[09:01] <gonniff> hello all
[09:01] <untung> hi, any one knows how to burn Dvd in ubuntu?
[09:01] <burhan> phiber_optic: system > preferences > preferred applications
[09:01] <piratepenguin> how come in keyboard preferences I can't see the preview of any of the layouts? Do I have to install a package for them or something?
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> bastu: what are you on now?
[09:01] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: Also, everything works fine with out the other 2 drives
[09:01] <aburton> cherubiel: alright
[09:01] <gonniff> I'm just trying to install clamav on ubuntu  2.6.15
[09:01] <aburton> cherubiel: thanks!
[09:01] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: 1 drive
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> ah..
[09:02] <IIIEars> ""/tmp is   1601777""   - did that help?
[09:02] <eletido> is it possible to get WPA2 working in Dapper?
[09:02] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: sda1
[09:02] <phiber_optic> burhan, it only shows me for internet and system
[09:02] <gonniff> it says I need zlib and zlib-devel, but I can't seem to apt-get them
[09:02] <gonniff> any suggestions?
[09:02] <wrlee> Does anyone know how to disable a password? Ive tried blanking out the pw field in the passwd and shadow files, but then then no password was accepted.
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> and I assume xp is on one of the drives you are adding and they are not a raid setup
[09:02] <Descentio1> why does my ubuntu server ask for a username and pass when i try to connect to it from windowsXP -> My Network Places
[09:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: hey man, you wouldnt happen to know where I can apply for the 'Ubuntu Certified Engineer' certification?
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> zlib1g - compression library - runtime
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> zlib1g-dev - compression library - development
[09:02] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: no they are raided (clone) and empty
[09:02] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: I can see grub though
[09:02] <wubrgamer> hey guys, this is the script for my friend, any suggestions ? http://www.copypot.com/591
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> i got no idea why they got a g in their names. :P
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: No... never had much use for certs even when I was working on windows
[09:03] <clearzen> I've been having problems with my wireless card. It is a PCMCIA card. It is sharing an IRQ with my ethernet. Can anyone tell me how to change it?
[09:03] <aburton> cherubiel: what should I put it after?
[09:03] <sdali> IIIEars: I've gotta look that one up. I'm not sure of all those extra numbers.
[09:03] <mbd> hi. im having some (i think) X problems, i cant click both right and left mousebutton at the same time in quake3 or tremulous
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> bastu: You cant mix xp raid setup and ubuntu
[09:03] <maxkelley> ubuntu forums flaky today, yes?
[09:03] <phiber_optic> burhan,  I founded ;)
[09:03] <cherubiel> aburton: just after the title would do
[09:03] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah I know what you mean although I wouldn't mind having that under my belt...every little helps
[09:03] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: its not XP... i formated everything before going into linux
[09:03] <burhan> mbd: the problem seems to be with your application's settings.
[09:04] <aburton> cherubiel: thanks
[09:04] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: the raid was done through ALI raid while booting
[09:05] <Roh81> Okay I need help from someone who knows error messeges
[09:05] <untung> how to burn dvd in ubuntu?
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[09:05] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:05] <earthian> hello
[09:05] <cablesm102> untung, it's built in.
[09:05] <mbd> burhan,  how do u figure?
[09:05] <Roh81> ./bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> untung: right click and burn
[09:05] <Roh81> Any ideas?
[09:05] <cherubiel> untung: dvdauthor, you want to make a dvd image?
[09:05] <cherubiel> use k3b
[09:06] <burhan> Roh81: install libsdl-dev
[09:06] <cherubiel> aburton: let me know if it runs fine
[09:06] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: are you saying it will work without hardware raid?
[09:06] <Roh81> erm. okay.
[09:06] <earthian> i have a problem: a package "gforce-dns-bind9" is causing me constant errors that it is broken and i cant remove/install it. what to do? i think i want to remove it premanently
[09:06] <earthian> help?
[09:06] <earthian> :)
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> bastu: You need to read that, you are not going to get both running under raid
[09:06] <untung> Jack_Sparrow : I want to copy files and burn into a dvd
[09:06] <aburton> cherubiel: will do
[09:06] <burhan> !info gforce-dns-bind9
[09:06] <ubotu> Package gforce-dns-bind9 does not exist in any distro I know
[09:06] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: ok...
[09:07] <Roh81> And where do i get that from?
[09:07] <burhan> earthian: where did you get it?
[09:07] <earthian> correction: gforge-dns-bind9
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> bastu: yes, you unraid your xp setup
[09:07] <cablesm102>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[09:07] <burhan> !info gforge-dns-bind9
[09:07] <ubotu> gforge-dns-bind9: Collaborative development tool - DNS management (using Bind9). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-31 (dapper), package size 70 kB, installed size 224 kB
[09:07] <cablesm102> Roh81, are you still having trouble with the game?
[09:07] <Roh81> Yes.
[09:07] <earthian> it is stuck with some pgsql server or so?
[09:07] <burhan> Roh81: you get it from the repos
[09:07] <burhan> !info libsdl-dev
[09:07] <untung> cherubiel: where can i get dvdauthor?
[09:07] <ubotu> Package libsdl-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[09:07] <earthian> dunno.. i just wanted some dns management tools
[09:07] <burhan> !info libsdl
[09:07] <ubotu> Package libsdl does not exist in any distro I know
[09:08] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: Did you see my msg about not using XP, at all?
[09:08] <cherubiel> !dvdauthor
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> I have a land line call comming in 10 minutes.... I need to take it since they are paying me... DOnt mean to be rude or drop anyone in the middle of a problem..
[09:08] <ubotu> dvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.11-3 (dapper), package size 133 kB, installed size 356 kB
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> bastu: Not really
[09:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, this is the script for my friend, any suggestions ? http://www.copypot.com/591
[09:08] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[09:08] <bastu> Jack_Sparrow: can we go PM.. its alittle to crowded here..
[09:08] <burhan> Roh81: you want libsdl1.2-dev
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> bastu: Quickly yes go to #Jack_Sparrow
[09:09] <burhan> earthian: what error are you getting?
[09:09] <isai> hi
[09:09] <earthian> let me pastebin it
[09:09] <earthian> !pastebin
[09:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:09] <cherubiel> wubrgamer: d00d! don't remove anystuff! back it up!!
[09:10] <kalleth> hi guys - i just installed ubuntu and although ifconfig shows that my ethernet device is up and running and has an IP from my dhcp server, i can ping an address no problem (and resolve hostnames no problem) AND in addition i can ftp in to other sites, i can't seem to use any web browser - it won't show me any web page - or transfer any files through apt-get.
[09:10] <burhan> kalleth: do you have a proxy server you need to configure?
[09:10] <Descentio1> why does my ubuntu server ask for a username and pass when i try to connect to it from windowsXP -> My Network Places
[09:10] <|zeus|> kalleth: ADSL modem?
[09:10] <clearzen> @ kalleth sounds like a firewall or proxy
[09:10] <kalleth> nope, it should be transparent as far as i know - i'm using a linksys ADSL router
[09:11] <earthian> burhan:
[09:11] <earthian> burhan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22460
[09:11] <burhan> Descentio1: enable guest browsing in samba
[09:11] <kalleth> i haven't had to set up any proxy/etc configurations on my windows machines
[09:11] <Descentio1> burhan: how do i do that?
[09:11] <kalleth> UPnP is off on my router as well
[09:11] <burhan> !samba > Descentio1
[09:12] <clearzen> can you access the configuration for your router?
[09:12] <|zeus|> kalleth: write dns server in your /etc/resolv.conf
[09:12] <burhan> earthian: setup postresql first, or fix its configuration.
[09:12] <|zeus|> it's ubunut truoble with many routers/modems
[09:12] <burhan> kalleth: can you telnet on port 80 of google.com ?
[09:12] <earthian> i want to remove all
[09:12] <earthian> the packages :/
[09:12] <kalleth> i'lljust check burhan
[09:13] <burhan> earthian: sudo apt-get remove --purge gforge-dns-bind9
[09:13] <kalleth> |zeus| i can resolve IP addresses fine
[09:13] <kalleth> (ping works, nslookup works)
[09:13] <cherubiel> kalleth: any specific browsers?
[09:13] <kalleth> telnet www.google.com:80 says 'could not resolve'
[09:13] <kalleth> (am i doing the command wrong?)
[09:13] <burhan> kalleth: telnet www.google.com 80
[09:14] <kalleth> thanks
[09:14] <kalleth> Trying 1.0.0.0 (????????)
[09:14] <azathoth> anyone know how i can use my mousewheel as a hotkey? i want to use the whel to scroll desktops like in xgl...
[09:14] <DangerousK> hello everyone
[09:14] <mbd> im having some trouble getting q3 workin fully. atm i cant jump and shoot at the same time (lmb and rmb) any tips
[09:14] <Roh81> Hey I checked for that package. I already have a few versions of that file installed. dont know which it wants
[09:14] <phiber_optic> which is better etx3 or reiserfs
[09:14] <sdali> IIIEars: FOrgive my ignorance, but "chmod 1601777" makes no sense to me.  Wouldn't it just be "chmod 1777"?
[09:14] <DangerousK> i just installed ubuntu
[09:14] <DangerousK> and it wont let me in
[09:14] <DangerousK> i put in the right password and user name
[09:14] <earthian> burhan: it says that the package is not installed
[09:14] <azathoth> hey Shadowline
[09:14] <DangerousK> and it still says, wont let me in.
[09:14] <earthian> and not removed
[09:14] <earthian> omg
[09:15] <earthian> how do i get rid of it?
[09:15] <burhan> earthian: install it again, then remove it.
[09:15] <opl> Hi all, if I want to seach somethings like find ~/xx | grep /usr/bin. What do I have to do that find looks for the path /usr/bin??
[09:15] <clearzen> @DangerousK start in recovery mode
[09:15] <clearzen> and delete the /etc/shadow
[09:15] <cherubiel> kalleth: ping google.com works right?
[09:15] <Shadowline> azathoth: howdy
[09:15] <nownot> i installed xgl and its working i just cant rotate the cube w/ crtl alt mouse
[09:15] <clearzen> it should let you create a new root password
[09:15] <kalleth> cherubiel yep it works fine
[09:15] <PoundFool> DangerousK: Not to belabor the obvious, but did you check if your caps lock is on? shift key is sutck? etc.
[09:15] <burhan> opl: grep /usr/bin ~/xx
[09:15] <cherubiel> so your dns is good
[09:15] <cherubiel> kalleth: what browser?
[09:15] <kalleth> and i've checked /etc/resolv.conf and it's put the IP of my router (192.168.1.1) in there already
[09:15] <kalleth> firefox
[09:15] <ucordes> how can i find out with which version of gcc i need to compile a program?
[09:15] <cherubiel> where do you face issues?
[09:16] <kalleth> and telnet www.google.com 80 doesn't work either
[09:16] <cherubiel> check the connection settings
[09:16] <cherubiel> any proxies mentioned?
[09:16] <burhan> kalleth: type dig ubuntu.com what do you get in response?
[09:16] <opl> burhan: so I don't need find at all.
[09:16] <PoundFool> ucordes: Which program?
[09:16] <burhan> opl: no :)
[09:16] <nownot> or any th ing that has to do w/ my keyboar
[09:16] <clearzen> or try     sudo passwd root
[09:16] <azathoth> Shadowline: maybe you can help, i want to bind a mouse button to a hotkey... know how?
[09:16] <ucordes> PoundFool: madwifi (ng)
[09:16] <nownot> can someone help me w/ this, thanks
[09:16] <kalleth> yep
[09:16] <kalleth> works
[09:16] <Roh81> Burhan: that file you pointed me at... I already have it. Im starting to think ubuntu just hates me.
[09:16] <kalleth> i can't c+p but no connection refused or anything and in the 'ANSWER' section it works
[09:16] <sdali> burhan: Does "chmod 1777 /tmp" sound right to you?
[09:17] <burhan> Roh81: what are you trying to run anyway?
[09:17] <kalleth> and it's got ns0.blackcatworks.co.uk in there and everything
[09:17] <burhan> sdali: sure.
[09:17] <Shadowline> azathoth: nope, but I think theres some info in the forums I bet.... search is your friend
[09:17] <kalleth> it seems i'm just having issues with port 80
[09:17] <sdali> thx
[09:17] <Roh81> burdan; An installer for cube 2
[09:17] <PoundFool> ucordes: aren't those kernel driver tools?
[09:17] <burhan> kalleth: other machines on the same net are working fine?
[09:17] <DangerousK> clearzen
[09:17] <kalleth> yep
[09:17] <kalleth> however
[09:17] <clearzen> yeah
[09:17] <phiber_optic> which is better etx3 or reiserfs
[09:17] <DangerousK> please look at my private message
[09:18] <kalleth> looking at my router configuration it seems the ubuntu machine isn't passing the hostname to the router
[09:18] <kalleth> i.e.
[09:18] <kalleth> 	192.168.1.2 	fries 	Dynamic
[09:18] <kalleth> 	192.168.1.4 	unknown 	Dynamic
[09:18] <nownot> can someone help me w/ xgl and my keyboard not working
[09:18] <ucordes> i don't really know what a kernel driver is but i think this may answer your question: madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[09:18] <kalleth> ^ fries is my main windows machine, unknown is the ubuntu which should be called 'onionrings'
[09:18] <burhan> nownot: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:18] <Tom_Reinke> Can someone please help me set up my laptop so that I can use the third mouse button? It doesn't want to work right now for any applications.
[09:18] <PoundFool> If so, the same version of gcc that was used to compile the kernel should be fine.
[09:18] <burhan> kalleth: what do you get when you type hostname
[09:18] <Roh81> I give up...
[09:18] <PoundFool> ucordes: why do you think you need a different version of GCC than the std one?
[09:18] <kalleth> onionrings
[09:18] <ucordes> PoundFool: it's a small guide on installing madwifi. i did everything as they say and i get error: wrong module format
[09:18] <kalleth> as it should be
[09:19] <brian98> I'm afraid to reboot
[09:19] <brian98> :)
[09:19] <kalleth> i was just wondering if that could be related
[09:19] <opl> burhan: I tried it with a file with just "/usr/bin" in it. but grep doesn't find it
[09:19] <DangerousK> clearzen?
[09:19] <burhan> kalleth: what do you get when you type hostname -fqdn
[09:19] <ucordes> PoundFool: because of the error message. wrong module format. a guy in #madwifi told me to use the version with which my kernel was compiled
[09:19] <burhan> opl: what command did you type ?
[09:19] <clearzen> yeah Dangerous
[09:19] <DangerousK> oi
[09:19] <clearzen> what question do you have?
[09:19] <kalleth> invalid option -q
[09:19] <Tom_Reinke> Can someone please help me set up my laptop so that I can use the third mouse button? It doesn't want to work right now for any applications.
[09:19] <DangerousK> please repeate the advice you gave me
[09:19] <DangerousK> the gui will pop up
[09:19] <cherubiel> ucordes: modules need to compiled with the gcc used to compile current kernel
[09:20] <DangerousK> i put in password and user name
[09:20] <opl> burhan: grep ~/xx /usr/bin
[09:20] <DangerousK> it says they dont match and i know they do.
[09:20] <PoundFool> ucordes: ah. does the command "uname -a" give you which version of gcc was used?
[09:20] <clearzen> you have to do this from the command line
[09:20] <burhan> kalleth: sorry, --fqdn
[09:20] <kalleth> localhost
[09:20] <Tom_Reinke> ompaul: are you around? Perhaps you could help me?
[09:20] <DangerousK> have to do what?
[09:20] <burhan> opl: the format of the command is, grep [what you are looking for]  [where you want to search]  -- so you need to type grep /usr/bin ~/xx
[09:20] <ucordes> cherubiel: how can i find out the version of gcc used to compule the current kernel?
[09:21] <cherubiel> uname -a usuall gives ya that
[09:21] <clearzen> sudo passwd root
[09:21] <clearzen> or delete the /etc/shadow file
[09:21] <ucordes> cherubiel: i get  2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linu
[09:21] <clearzen> if the first does not work
[09:21] <burhan> clearzen: wtf kind of advice is that?!
[09:21] <ompaul> Tom_Reinke, you have to ask your question, then I will decide if I know what can be done and then I chip in my 2c worth, or maybe some knows more than me and they take it
[09:21] <Tom_Reinke> ompaul: someone please help me set up my laptop so that I can use the third mouse button? It doesn't want to work right now for any applications.
[09:22] <DangerousK> clearzen, i hate to ask you this, but speak to me like an idiot
[09:22] <anthony> hello I'm trying to change the ownership of a shared FAT32 partition using "sudo chown anthony\ -\ Anthony\ Sennett:anthony /home/anthony/Shared" , and I keep getting "invalid user" returned.  as far as I know it is not invalid: it's the same as the owners of the dirs in my home folder.  what am I doing wrong?
[09:22] <looktj> hey
[09:22] <DangerousK> because i havenmt used linux in awhile.
[09:22] <looktj> Help please people
[09:22] <DangerousK> i want to use linux, clearly.
[09:22] <PoundFool> clearzen: what's the default behavior if you delete the shadow file? Is it for a blank password?
[09:22] <ucordes> cherubiel where's the gcc version there?
[09:22] <burhan> DangerousK: don't delete /etc/passwd and don't set a root password.
[09:22] <kalleth> burhan: it shows 'localhost' as a response to that command
[09:22] <ompaul> Tom_Reinke, is that synaptic mouse or external mouse?
[09:22] <ged> I have a problem with my via82cxxx controller not being able to enable DMA on /dev/hda, tried reordering my modules to bump via82cxxx to the top but that doesn't seem to work for me...  anyone solved this before?
[09:22] <opl> burhan: "grep /usr/bin ~/xx" doesn't work.
[09:22] <burhan> kalleth: what is the domain line in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:22] <looktj> How do I get my laptop microphone to work?
[09:22] <mustasj> Hi, sorry for the stupid question guys but how do I change the console language, like the language apt writes it's message in. I want to set it back to english so it's possible to understand :)
[09:22] <clearzen> It will ask for a new password on reboot
[09:22] <Tom_Reinke> ompaul: synaptic mouse, the external works just fine, but I can't tote it around with me everywhere.
[09:22] <burhan> opl: do you have a file called xx in your home directory that has '/usr/bin/' in it?
[09:23] <PoundFool> ucordes: it looks like it doesn't say.
[09:23] <clearzen> you have to edit the host file as well however
[09:23] <clearzen> one sec I"m at work
[09:23] <kalleth> nothing - it just has a nameserver line
[09:23] <kalleth> nothing else
[09:23] <ompaul> Tom_Reinke, and you want both buttons to react as the third button?
[09:23] <PoundFool> ucordes: well, if nothing else, you can compile a new kernel, but I'd hate to step you through that over IRC -- especially if you've never done it before.
[09:23] <ucordes> how can i find out the version of gcc which was used to compile my kernel?
[09:23] <looktj> anyone know my question
[09:23] <looktj> ?
[09:23] <opl> burhan: I have a folder xx in my home directory. in this folder I have a file with the contens /usr/bin
[09:23] <Glombool> !sqlyog
[09:23] <burhan> ucordes: why would you want to know that?
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sqlyog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <DangerousK> burhan, please check my PM please.
[09:24] <burhan> opl: grep -R "/usr/bin" ~/xx
[09:24] <Tom_Reinke> ompaul: No, i have an actual third mousebutton, but when pressed it does nothing.
[09:24] <PoundFool> burhan: he's compliling a driver module
[09:24] <ucordes> because i need to compile a famous module called madwifi
[09:24] <ompaul> Tom_Reinke, maybe this will help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[09:24] <burhan> ucordes: you need to first of all, read the wifi entry in the wiki before you go on some wild compiling adventure.
[09:24] <burhan> !wiki > ucordes
[09:24] <ucordes> PoundFool: i would more like to keep asking people here how i can find it out instead of compiling it new
[09:24] <burhan> !wifi > ucordes
[09:24] <kalleth> i know in windows it's possible to release/renew
[09:24] <looktj> How do I get my laptop microphone to work?
[09:24] <kalleth> is it possible to do that in ubuntu just to check if that'll solve?
[09:24] <opl> burhan: thx. I was getting nuts about this. I thougt I have to escape the slashes.
[09:25] <digivore> is ubuntuforums.org down or something?  having major issues getting through to it.
[09:25] <looktj> !mic
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <ucordes> !wifi
[09:25] <Tom_Reinke> ompaul: Thank you very much, I'll get back to you if it works or not.
[09:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:25] <looktj> !microphone
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <aburton> cherubiel: didn't work
[09:25] <DangerousK> do you guys not use Private messages or evebn look at them?
[09:25] <looktj> grr
[09:25] <aburton> "NTLDR missing"
[09:25] <ompaul> Tom_Reinke, well I am exhausted on the subject :-)
[09:25] <Jack_Sparrow> kalleth: sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0" will renew the IP address for eth0
[09:25] <PoundFool> kalleth: well, you can bring the interface down ad back up, but I doubt it'll fix your problem.
[09:25] <looktj> stupid ubotu
[09:25] <burhan> DangerousK: on this network, in order for you to send private messages, you must have a registered nick. if you don't have a registered nick, no one can see you messages.
[09:25] <Tom_Reinke> ompaul: What exactly is your specialty? I've been asking you a TON of questions recently (Tomtheman70)
[09:25] <DangerousK> ah
[09:26] <DangerousK> well im just desperate to get linux working
[09:26] <Grok_> traceroute's not on ubuntu or i'm having a moron moment
[09:26] <ompaul> Tom_Reinke, generalist :)
[09:26] <kalleth> just done it anyway and it does get an ip address from the dhcp server
[09:26] <oli> Hi, i'm having a really anoying problem with my dns
[09:26] <DangerousK> i was looking for the less painful way to solve my problem.
[09:26] <kalleth> and it MUST be tlaking to the internet
[09:26] <burhan> Grok_: tracepath
[09:26] <DangerousK> because i dont want to reinstall AGAIN
[09:26] <Grok_> burhan, ahh thanks
[09:26] <burhan> DangerousK: what problem is that?
[09:26] <looktj> How do I get my laptop microphone to work?
[09:26] <DangerousK> the password/user name problem.
[09:26] <oli> i set it in the resolv.conf to my isp's address, but it keeps reseting to the local router adress
[09:26] <burhan> looktj: unmute it, then yell at your laptop.
[09:27] <ompaul> Tom_Reinke, just been around a while you pick up the odd gem here and there
[09:27] <Tom_Reinke> ompaul: lol, well, I hope that after learning all of this (There's a lot to learn and the learning curve is like a flat cliff) I'll be able to help others.
[09:27] <kethinov> i just replaced my soundcard with a new one and it works just fine, but the volume controls in gnome don't affect the volume in any way whatsoever... only my speakers can seem to change it. any ideas how to fix?
[09:27] <burhan> DangerousK: what password username problem?
[09:27] <pustota1> question: how comes that default ubuntu comes without strings(1) and nm(1)
[09:27] <DangerousK> it wont take the ones i put in when i installed ubuntu
[09:27] <pustota1> ?
[09:27] <ompaul> Tom_Reinke, it is all we ask
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> oli: did you set your router to fort forwarding.. and I have to leave in seconds...
[09:27] <looktj> Burhan: how do i unmute it
[09:27] <burhan> DangerousK: "it" what?
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Port
[09:27] <oli> nac
[09:27] <burhan> looktj: double click the speaker icon to bring up the mixer.
[09:27] <DangerousK> it wouldnt take the password and user name i entered in during install.
[09:27] <oli> jack_sparrow: i'll check
[09:28] <cherubiel> aburton: didya hafta install a driver to recognize your sata drives? or was it taken?
[09:28] <aburton> cherubiel: you there?
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> oli: I thought we talked about that yesterday
[09:28] <burhan> looktj: then click on the 'capture' tab.
[09:28] <aburton> oh
[09:28] <PoundFool> pustota1: It doesn't? I never checked. If they're not there, I guess they're considered development tools, which most people don't need/want.
[09:28] <aburton> cherubiel: no, no drivers
[09:28] <DangerousK> thats my prob burhan
[09:28] <kalleth> burhan: surely when i type telnet google.com 80 and it says 'Trying 1.0.0.0' that's not a good sign?
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> oli: Your router was set to 192.168.1.1  Dlink..?
[09:28] <kalleth> even though it resolves the IP address fine?
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> oli: Or am I confused.. yet again..
[09:28] <burhan> kalleth: forget about that part, does the screen clear?
[09:28] <kalleth> nope
[09:28] <kalleth> hang on
[09:28] <kalleth> no
[09:29] <looktj> omg! oww my ears
[09:29] <cherubiel> aburton: wait, is your entry still (hd1,0) ?
[09:29] <kalleth> it doesn't it just sits there at 'Trying'
[09:29] <burhan> kalleth: it just gets stuck on trying 1.0.0.0 ?
[09:29] <kalleth> yep
[09:29] <cherubiel> aburton: you did a virtual swap, so hd1 is now hd0
[09:29] <PoundFool> lol @ lookj.  You all right, man?
[09:29] <burhan> kalleth: the cursor doesn't drop down?
[09:29] <PoundFool> no permanent damage, right?
[09:29] <kalleth> burhan: the cursor does drop down, yeah, sorry
[09:29] <burhan> looktj: don't turn it up too much, or you'll get feedback (I guess you already know that now)
[09:29] <kalleth> the corsor is blinking on the line below it
[09:30] <kalleth> *cursor
[09:30] <burhan> kalleth: then you are connected.
[09:30] <kalleth> ah, okay
[09:30] <godvirus> what is preferred method for properly setting up monitor in xorg.conf?
[09:30] <burhan> kalleth: type this exactly
[09:30] <nownot> on the application beagle is there a way to make that run on start
[09:30] <kalleth> sorry :(
[09:30] <bluefusionxl> hi, my apt-get is having trouble.  Every time I try to update it, it thinks I'm installing a package called update.  I type "sudo apt-get update" and it says to run it again to fix the problem.
[09:30] <DangerousK> argh
[09:30] <clearzen> Did you get your problem answered Dangerous?
[09:30] <DangerousK> no
[09:30] <pustota1> well, I do wnat them pretty much. unfortunately I cannot get them with apt-get either
[09:30] <DangerousK> im stuck
[09:30] <burhan> GET / HTTP/1.1 then hit enter
[09:30] <DangerousK> clearzen
[09:30] <burhan> then type Host: www.google.com and hit enter twice
[09:30] <pustota1> so, part of what how you call "package" are they ?
[09:30] <clearzen> Give me 5 mins and I'll give you a step by step answer
[09:30] <oli> Jack_Sparrow : i can't find those settings... what might it be under in the router settings?
[09:30] <DangerousK> your too kind clearzaen
[09:30] <nownot> on the application beagle is there a way to make that run on start
[09:31] <kalleth> ah
[09:31] <kalleth> hang on
[09:31] <burhan> nownot: it runs on the backgroup
[09:31] <kalleth> just after i typed that it says
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> oli: google your router model # and port forwarding.
[09:31] <oli> k
[09:31] <kalleth> "telnet: unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out"
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> oli: Dlink has a page to walk you through it..
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> oli: Sorry I am short on time
[09:31] <burhan> kalleth: if you waited a while, it times out.
[09:31] <nownot> burhan: i have to start a terminal and type beagle-seach i was wondering if i could hae the gui alwasy there
[09:31] <kalleth> yeah i thought that so i just reconnected
[09:31] <kalleth> and did the same - and it's still doing nothing
[09:32] <PoundFool> pustota1: go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and do a search.
[09:32] <PoundFool> where it says "search the contents of packages", type in "strings"and you'll get a list
[09:32] <wachunei> hi guys, i'm looking for a desktop recorder like istanbul, can you help me
[09:32] <wachunei> ?
[09:32] <totem> can someone tell me if their is a proper repository list for 4.10 out there?
[09:32] <kalleth> just to let you know i tried ftp ftp.mirror.ac.uk and that seems to work perfectly
[09:32] <PoundFool> pustota1: it's binutils or seomthing like that
[09:33] <burhan> nownot: the desktop search applet has a beagle plugin.
[09:33] <godvirus> how does everyone else set up their monitor/refresh rate?
[09:33] <burhan> kalleth: you should see something like this > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22463
[09:33] <pustota1> ok. many thanks. I will try
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> godvirus: manually edit xorg if needed, make sure you have the correct drivers for your video chipset etc.
[09:34] <bluefusionxl> hi, my apt-get is having trouble.  Every time I try to update it, it thinks I'm installing a package called update.  I type "sudo apt-get update" and it says to run it again to fix the problem.  Here's what happened: http://pastebin.com/782914
[09:34] <kalleth> burhan: surely when mine sticks at Trying 1.0.0.0... it's not resolving the IP address correctly?
[09:34] <kalleth> i certianly don't get Connected to google.com.
[09:34] <kalleth> *certainly
[09:34] <falcon3> apt-get update, not apt-get install update
[09:34] <godvirus> jack_sparrow: just wanted to check. ubuntu is so easy its still mind boggling to me that in this day and age, newbies have to resort to editing xorg.conf
[09:34] <mikeconcepts2> I want to start using viop and video. Is Ekiga the best on Ubuntu? Skype and aMSN don't have video.
[09:34] <bluefusionxl> i didn't put install
[09:34] <burhan> kalleth: yes, something is wrong with your dns setup.
[09:34] <falcon3> ok
[09:34] <bluefusionxl> falcon, I told you what I put
[09:34] <bluefusionxl> not install
[09:34] <anthony>  hello I'm trying to change the ownership of a shared FAT32 partition using "sudo chown anthony\ -\ Anthony\ Sennett:anthony /home/anthony/Shared" , and I keep getting "invalid user" returned.  as far as I know it is not invalid: it's the same as the owners of the dirs in my home folder.  what am I doing wrong?
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> godvirus: Usually they dont
[09:34] <looktj> pmg
[09:34] <nownot> burhan:  i am unfamiliar w/ that, can you tell me where it is or how to access it
[09:35] <bluefusionxl> I think its something wrong with my sources.list but even my backup wont work now
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> godvirus: If the drivers go in cleanly then you could pick res from the menu
[09:35] <looktj> my dad is in nevada
[09:35] <godvirus> jack_sparrow: aww
[09:35] <kalleth> i wonder
[09:35] <godvirus> jack_sparrow: ahh
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[09:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:35] <kalleth> let me try setting the DNS of this machine to an external DNS server
[09:35] <looktj> he thinks i got wrong number when i call him in skype
[09:35] <looktj> :S
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> godvirus: But if there is a glitch, we are here to help
[09:35] <bluefusionxl> Source-oMatic messes up too
[09:35] <oli> Jack_Sparrow : ok, found it..,, but what do i want to forward?
[09:35] <phiber_optic> whats the command to check how many space is left in my hard drive?
[09:35] <bluefusionxl> it is what I last tried
[09:36] <godvirus> jack_sparrow: i installed xgl in kubuntu so my display config module doesnt load now but seems to work otherwise
[09:36] <Pulshion> How can i convert avi to wmv?
[09:36] <burhan> nownot: right click on the panel (that's the bar at the top) click Add to panel... and choose 'deskbar'
[09:36] <burhan> phiber_optic: df -h
[09:36] <phiber_optic> thanx burhan
[09:36] <godvirus> jack_sparrow: i mean everything else works. let me ask you: is there a respository of monitor sections for different monitors? the only thing i see is an auto-modeline generator that wants pixel mhz, etc.
[09:37] <burhan> godvirus: yeah, google :)
[09:37] <nownot> burhan:  i dont have a deskbar there
[09:37] <Digital> hello everyone
[09:37] <ChaosFan> bluefusionxl: erm, you have a repository in your sources.list that doesn't seem to exist
[09:37] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to convert AVI to WMV...thanx
[09:37] <burhan> nownot: are you on dapper?
[09:37] <nownot> burhan:  yes
[09:37] <Digital> Pulshion: why would you want wmv on linux?
[09:38] <Digital> use lossless
[09:38] <godvirus> ok just wanted to see if i was doing things the hard way. answer is yes but that's the only way :)
[09:38] <Pulshion> Digital -- mp3 player =D
[09:38] <burhan> nownot: sudo apt-get install deskbar-applet
[09:38] <Digital> doesn't support mp3?
[09:38] <kalleth> burhan: i changed the line in my 'resolv.conf' to an external dns server ip address but it has reset it to the internal one after talking to the DHCP server (i'm assuming)_
[09:38] <superkirbyartist> I want to switch my keyboard layout to french but it's still english.
[09:38] <kalleth> any way to stop that from happening?
[09:38] <burhan> Pulshion: what kind of mp3 player only plays wmv?
[09:38] <Pulshion> Digital -- codecs probably
[09:38] <mikeconcepts2> Would someone call me on Ekiga, I'm MikeConcepts. I want to see if it works.
[09:38] <Digital> there is a guide on help.ubuntu.com/community on restricted formats if you want Pulshion
[09:38] <bbya2064> kalleth: do you have a router?
[09:38] <finalbeta> When I started VMWare I got a notice of a new version. Need to install it cuz the old version doesn't accept my key anymore. Should I somehow (and how?) uninstall the old version first?
[09:38] <Pulshion> burhan -- i got zen vision
[09:38] <fenderfreek> anyone know anything about support for battery stats on vaio laptops?
[09:38] <clearzen> One sec Danger I'm working on it
[09:39] <Pulshion> Digital -- on the mp3 player
[09:39] <Pulshion> Digital -- i can play it in the os
[09:39] <kalleth> bbya: yes, a linksys DSL-G624T
[09:39] <StoneNote> finalbeta, in linux it will uninstall the old when when it installs the new one
[09:39] <Digital> on converting files Pulshion
[09:39] <burhan> kalleth: open up /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[09:39] <kalleth> that's whats acting as the DHCP server
[09:39] <finalbeta> StoneNote, thnx
[09:39] <StoneNote> finalbeta, yw
[09:39] <fenderfreek> I'm running 6.06, but i can't see my battery status at all.
[09:39] <nownot> burhan:  ok it installed but still not in the add panel
[09:39] <DangerousK> clearzen, does this usually happen?
[09:39] <bbya2064> kalleth: What is exactly the problem?
[09:40] <burhan> nownot: logout, and login again.
[09:40] <kalleth> i can't access any internet things on port 80
[09:40] <kalleth> any other port works fine it seems
[09:40] <looktj> Fenderfreek: you can't see if you on AC
[09:40] <clearzen> No, it happened to my friend once or twice
[09:40] <nownot> burhan:  ok thank
[09:40] <steveire> quick question: When I install with the alternate cd, I can choose the option "install on unpartitioned space", and it allocates the swap and everything. Can you do the same with the LiveCD?
[09:40] <kalleth> (as in i can ftp to external ftp servers, 'ping' external ip addresses - that seem to resolve correctly, etc)
[09:40] <Homer> how do you excute a command as root via sudo?
[09:40] <burhan> steveire: yes.
[09:40] <fenderfreek> looktj: I can't see it whether on ac or not. it says there is no battery.
[09:40] <bbya2064> kalleth: check that your router is not forwarding ports.
[09:40] <burhan> Homer: sudo somecommand
[09:40] <kalleth> (i can't telnet to google.com 80 because it seems to be 'Trying 1.0.0.0'
[09:40] <steveire> When I ran the installation of edgy knot2 i didn't see it.
[09:41] <looktj> werid
[09:41] <burhan> kalleth: just finish with me first, then do something else.
[09:41] <bbya2064> kalleth: That happened to me when i was configuring for p2p on my old windows desktop (Gasp)
[09:41] <burhan> steveire: that's edgy
[09:41] <kalleth> burhan, okay
[09:41] <habeeb> I'll cry. I changed to Kubuntu, because I lost my Ubuntu CD (I noticed that after the format), and I now want to use Emacs, but it doesnt have antialiasing, it doesnt color the lines where you call functions etc, and it doesnt have a nice GUI like the GNOME one, any ideas?
[09:41] <Digital> where can I get themes for ubuntu gnome?
[09:41] <kalleth> i've got that config file open burhan
[09:41] <radekrazor> helo
[09:41] <burhan> kalleth: open up /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf as sudo so you can edit it.
[09:41] <steveire> I doubt they're removing such useful features...
[09:41] <kalleth> already done
[09:42] <looktj> Fenderfreek: System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[09:42] <Pulshion> Digital -- my bad, ok thanx...ill check it out
[09:42] <kalleth> the only uncommented line is the 'request' line
[09:42] <burhan> kalleth: okay now, it will have a line that says #prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;
[09:42] <AlexC> Hey,
[09:42] <Digital> n/p Pulshion. I just installed ubuntu last night
[09:42] <kalleth> cool found it
[09:42] <StoneNote> kalleth, you aren't using a Actiontec GT701-WG DSL Modem by any chance are you?
[09:42] <burhan> kalleth: remove the # from that line and change 127.0.0.1 to your ISP's DNS server.
[09:42] <stebbins> is there a shortcut key-combo to open the terminal?
[09:42] <radekrazor> What was command for creating package after ./configure and make and then dpkg-build ?
[09:42] <JamieBE> maybe someone can help me here, I have a really irritating problem with Samba. A while back I had this installed and all set up and working, but now whenever I try to access a samba share from one of my Xp machines, it just asks for a password. My linux password/username combo won't work. Anyone have any ideas??
[09:42] <mkquist_> digital - goodle it
[09:42] <leenix> anyone know if #ubuntu-server still exists? I can't find it in the channels
[09:42] <AlexC> I shiped a Ubuntu Dapper CD down to a mate for him to try Ubuntu - The only thign he can't get working is his Wireless internet
[09:42] <burhan> kalleth: the IP address of it, not the domain name (obviously)
[09:43] <AlexC> the adaptor is Wirless PCMCIA Card
[09:43] <AlexC> WL-311FA
[09:43] <kalleth> cool
[09:43] <kalleth> one sec
[09:43] <mkquist_> google*
[09:43] <Digital> mkquist, I've never used goodle, is it any better than google?
[09:43] <fenderfreek> looktj: I'm looking at it, but nothing there that seems to help. It will dim the screen when i remove AC power though, if that makes any sense
[09:43] <Digital> lol
[09:43] <Pulshion> Digital -- do u like it?
[09:43] <kalleth> do i leave the 'request' line after that uncommented?
[09:43] <looktj> Fenderfreek:  goto General Tab
[09:43] <AlexC> Does anyone know how to get this Wireless card working ?
[09:43] <aburton> I can't get grub to boot up windows. Can someone help me?
[09:43] <Digital> I'm looking it up on google now, just thought that maybe someone would have a good site already
[09:43] <covOPprometheus> hey guys, how do I get the name of a undetected cdrom?
[09:43] <burhan> kalleth: yes, don't edit that line :)
[09:43] <fenderfreek> looktj: alright. got it
[09:43] <burhan> kalleth: now, save that file, then restart your network connection.
[09:43] <kalleth> ifdown/ifup?
[09:44] <Digital> I love it so far Pulshion, but I still have a couple of nagging questions that I'm working on
[09:44] <JamieBE> I know there are some smart dudes and dudettes in here, so i'm sure someone either has had this samba password problem before, or at least knows what the problem might be?
[09:44] <gusto5> hello!
[09:44] <burhan> kalleth: I like to do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:44] <looktj> Fenderfreek: should show Notificatian area
[09:44] <Pulshion> Digital -- which ones?
[09:44] <Digital> took me like 4 hours to get my wacom to work right
[09:44] <Digital> lol
[09:44] <Pulshion> Digital -- im getting frustrated with it
[09:44] <Digital> now I want to get azureus to continue my download from my xp boot
[09:44] <fenderfreek> looktj: right now, it's set to only display when charging/discharging
[09:44] <gusto5> can anyone direct me to a howto for s-video out on an nvidia go 7600?
[09:44] <burhan> JamieBE: enable guest browsing in Samba, that should fix it.
[09:44] <kalleth> burhan you are a legend
[09:44] <Digital> Pulshion: with wacom?
[09:44] <kalleth> it appears to be working
[09:44] <JamieBE> burham: sounds spot on - how do I do it :)
[09:44] <Digital> or linux?
[09:45] <clearzen> You need to open the shadow file using the command nano /etc/shadow. All of the commands are ended with a semi-colon ; . The first command is your username. The second command is the hash of your password. You delete the hash and then that user has no password.
[09:45] <Pulshion> Digital -- nah just ubuntu itself
[09:45] <fenderfreek> looktj: If i pull up the gnome power manager, it says no battery, and shows it as being fully discharged
[09:45] <burhan> JamieBE: heh, edit the samba configuration file. I think its also on the wiki
[09:45] <Pulshion> Digital -- why dont u just start azureus by hand?
[09:45] <Digital> well, it's faster than xp, and I havn't crashed it yet Pulshion... normally I can crash any program/hardware/device in about an hour
[09:45] <kalleth> burhan: thanks for your help :)
[09:45] <JamieBE> burham: ohh - I'll have a look into that. Is there a way to kill the samba server and then reload it without rebooting Ubuntu do you know?
[09:45] <Pulshion> Digital -- i crashed windows like every other day
[09:45] <burhan> Digital: stay away from my servers then.
[09:45] <kalleth> i'll probably have another question in 10mins or so knowing me ;)
[09:46] <burhan> kalleth: its working now?
[09:46] <Digital> I'm going to, but I want to import my torrents so that it will keep downloading from where I left of in xp Pulshion
[09:46] <kalleth> yeah, it seems to be
[09:46] <looktj> fenderfreek: That's werid
[09:46] <Deacon> Does ubuntu have monitor mode support for orinoco?
[09:46] <clearzen> did you get that danger?
[09:46] <Digital> lol burhan
[09:46] <PoundFool> JamieBE:  yes: sudo kill -HUP *processnumber*
[09:46] <DangerousK> no sir im sorry
[09:46] <kalleth> now i have to see how to get it to let me set my res to 1024 seeing as its making me stick in 800x600 :(
[09:46] <DangerousK> please repeate
[09:46] <kalleth> but there's a wiki article on that so i'll try that first
[09:46] <stebbins> How do you install the standard C/C++ libraries?
[09:46] <JamieBE> burham: What would the process name be?
[09:46] <fenderfreek> looktj: yeah. seems like it worked for me in 5.10, but i haven't used it in a while, so i don't really remember
[09:46] <clearzen> You need to open the shadow file using the command nano /etc/shadow. All of the commands are ended with a semi-colon ; . The first command is your username. The second command is the hash of your password. You delete the hash and then that user has no password.
[09:46] <JamieBE> and how would I reload it :)?
[09:46] <burhan> JamieBE: process name? for what?
[09:46] <ChaosFan> JamieBE: ps aux | grep samba
[09:47] <linuchsan> JamieBE: /etc/init.d/samba stop
[09:47] <fenderfreek> looktj: never really payed it a lot of attention, nor noticed until today
[09:47] <TheReconHunter> hey, can someone help me out? im in a bit of a pickle
[09:47] <Pulshion> Digital -- good luck...im having big frustration with my video card, fan speed, ocing...atitools would be amazing in linux
[09:47] <looktj> Fenderfreek: did you do all the updates
[09:47] <ChaosFan> JamieBE: first number is process number needed for kill
[09:47] <DangerousK> okay, so i should stick the cd back in?
[09:47] <fenderfreek> looktj: yeah
[09:47] <clearzen> you don't need to.
[09:47] <Digital> yeah, I also have an ati card Pulshion
[09:47] <DangerousK> so how do i get to command line?
[09:47] <clearzen> You can change your password from there with the command sudo passwd root
[09:47] <Ackeubu_> is there a backup application for ubuntu. I need to backup my settings and my home.
[09:48] <TheReconHunter> Ackeubu_=
[09:48] <clearzen> ctrl+alt F1
[09:48] <DangerousK> right, i'll get on the box and try it.
[09:48] <leenix> anyonee had any luck getting an Ubutnu server w/ralus to be seen by a Windows Veritas Backup-Exec server
[09:48] <TheReconHunter> there is a program
[09:48] <TheReconHunter> in automatix
[09:48] <TheReconHunter> that backs your files up
[09:48] <looktj> fenderfreek: try this in terminal, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:48] <TheReconHunter> dont remember the name tho
[09:48] <clearzen> or recovery mode
[09:48] <jbroome> !automatix
[09:48] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:48] <fenderfreek> looktj: ok.
[09:48] <clearzen> if that does not work
[09:48] <burhan> stebbins: sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc
[09:48] <leenix> I have the Ralus installed on the Server but the Backup server won't back it up
[09:48] <Ackeubu_> TheReconHunter: okay thanks. would automatix work in Edgy??
[09:48] <looktj> dont use automatix
[09:49] <leenix> been googling and reading for three days now
[09:49] <looktj> it destroys your box
[09:49] <looktj> system*
[09:49] <TheReconHunter> I have  2 problems- The first one, how do i turn an unused partition itno a usable disk drive for both windows and ubuntu?
[09:49] <burhan> Ackeubu_: no, and don't use edgy on a production system. Its for testing only. Edgy answers are in #ubuntu+1
[09:49] <mikeconcepts2> would someone please call mikeconcepts@ekiga.net usine ekiga softphone for a test.
[09:49] <bluefox83> ok, i have a problem...my freind needs help with some config files..his keyboard's escape key is deadso he can't write to files..i need to get added to his sudo so i can help edit his configs..how do i go about doing that?
[09:49] <PoundFool> leenix: does BE see the server but just not the files?
[09:49] <JamieBE> burham: I tried /etc/init.d/samba start and I got a "FAIL" response - Whats that all about?
[09:49] <burhan> TheReconHunter: format it with fat32
[09:49] <burhan> TheReconHunter: next question?
[09:49] <PoundFool> leenix: also, which version of BE?
[09:49] <stian> Hey, postfix on my ubuntu server seems to be collecting email for some reason. I suspect it wants to use them later on in a drought or something, but I really need them sent right away. Any suggestions?
[09:50] <TheReconHunter> how do i format it after i installed ubuntu
[09:50] <cr3> what does it mean when a package is greyed out in synaptics?
[09:50] <ChaosFan> TheReconHunter: create a partition of it (fdisk), format it to be a fat32 file system (mkfs.vfat) und mount it somewhere
[09:50] <finalbeta> Don't any of you even have the problem that gnome gets stuck? Have it every other day on my lapto, now I got it on this machine. Programs work fine, just the windows are unresponsive. All I can do is restart X
[09:50] <covOPprometheus> hey guys, how do I get the name of a undetected cdrom?
[09:50] <looktj> mikeconcepts2: use skype
[09:50] <burhan> bluefox83: what does the esc key have to do with editing files?
[09:50] <AsadR> stian: lookup the flush queue command
[09:50] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to convert AVI to WMV...thanx
[09:50] <leenix> PoundFool: just not the files i get a 'function not implemented' exception
[09:50] <TheReconHunter> whoa, back up and help pls, how do i partition it
[09:50] <burhan> JamieBE: means, samba didn't start because of some error. Check the logs.
[09:50] <JamieBE>  * Starting Samba daemons... install: cannot change owner and/or group of `/var/run/samba': Operation not permitted /etc/init.d/samba: line 25:  6204 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd ---D [fail] 
[09:50] <sdasdasd> hallo
[09:50] <sdasdasd> habe ich gerade bekommen
[09:50] <sdasdasd> bitte schnell draufgehen
[09:50] <fenderfreek> looktj: that worked. it updated some CUPS packages, and something called netcdf. not sure what the second pkg is.
[09:50] <burhan> TheReconHunter: sudo apt-get install gparted and use that :)
[09:50] <sdasdasd> www.keinscherz.dl.am
[09:50] <PoundFool> leenix: you get that error on BE? What is your BE server running on?
[09:50] <godvirus> thanks for help all. keep up the good work :)
[09:51] <TheReconHunter> alright, thanks burhan
[09:51] <mikeconcepts2> lootj: no video in skype yet
[09:51] <Naik0> Where can i locate gdesklets ?
[09:51] <SonicChao> !info soundkonertor > Pulshion
[09:51] <burhan> !de
[09:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:51] <ubotu> Package soundkonertor does not exist in any distro I know
[09:51] <mikeconcepts2> lootj: unless it is available now
[09:51] <leenix> BE server says that yes. Running on WIN2K3
[09:51] <SonicChao> !info soundkonvertor > Pulshion
[09:51] <Ackeubu_> burhan: aye. i know but yes im using it on my production system. but its okay. doesnt matter much if everything would break down, as long as i can access my partitions. so its okay. but i still want to conserve my settings somehow. is there a way?
[09:51] <ubotu> Package soundkonvertor does not exist in any distro I know
[09:51] <PoundFool> be: and which version of BE is it?
[09:51] <burhan> Ackeubu_: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:51] <TheReconHunter> Burhan, do you mean qtparted?
[09:51] <looktj> fenderfreek: glad to help, if it still does it come back and we will try to help
[09:51] <covOPprometheus> hey guys, how do I get the name of a undetected cdrom?
[09:51] <Ackeubu_> burhan: k
[09:51] <SonicChao> !info soundkonverter
[09:51] <Harper> hey guys
[09:52] <leenix> PoundFool: 10.1
[09:52] <fenderfreek> alright. thanks!
[09:52] <ubotu> soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.1.99+0.2beta2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 744 kB, installed size 1584 kB
[09:52] <JamieBE> You are all beautiful people - Especially you burham - That seems to have worked a TREAT!
[09:52] <SonicChao> Pulshion: Install that. =)
[09:52] <Harper> need some help here restoring something
[09:52] <burhan> TheReconHunter: yes, the package is called gparted
[09:52] <Harper> I can't Minimize any windows anymore
[09:52] <stebbins> burhan: i installed gcc3.4 and build-essentials
[09:52] <kalleth> question: ubuntu won't let me set my desktop resolution to 1024x768 even though i know it supports it - i've tried looking on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto but my xorg.conf shows the res as allowed and apt-get won't install the package 855resolution to check if the bios is passing the correct res - any ideas?
[09:52] <stebbins> but still not finding iostream
[09:52] <Harper> any help?
[09:53] <PoundFool> leenix: where did you pull ralus from?
[09:53] <covOPprometheus> hey guys, how do I get the name of a undetected cdrom?
[09:53] <leenix> BE ralus CD
[09:53] <TheReconHunter> acutally, i just realized, i cant download anything because i have another problem
[09:53] <burhan> !info 915resolution
[09:53] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modify tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386)
[09:53] <TheReconHunter> for some reason, my laptop doesnt get internet
[09:53] <TheReconHunter> in both wireless and hardwired
[09:53] <mikeconcepts2> looktj: please call me on skype - mikesled
[09:53] <burhan> kalleth: enable the universe respositories, and install 915resolution
[09:53] <Harper> how can i  restore the minimize,maximize,close buttons on a a windows?
[09:53] <TheReconHunter> in hardwired, i can access my router
[09:53] <kalleth> burhan: how.
[09:53] <TheReconHunter> but no internet
[09:54] <kalleth> ('enable universe repos'
[09:54] <burhan> kalleth: see !respositories
[09:54] <PoundFool> leenix: did you check the ralus installation logs for anything fishy?
[09:54] <kalleth> !repositories
[09:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:54] <looktj> ok
[09:54] <Harper> how can i  restore the minimize,maximize,close buttons on a a windows?
[09:54] <JamieBE> burham: I don't suppose you can be beutiful again can you - I have an external USB disk which I really need mounting automatically every time the OS boots or the device is plugged in - is there a way of configuring this to work?
[09:54] <burhan> kalleth: you can also msg the bot with your queries, helps keep the channel clear.
[09:54] <looktj> its works
[09:54] <Harper> how can i  restore the minimize,maximize,close buttons on a a windows?
[09:54] <burhan> Harper: xgl?
[09:54] <Harper> ya
[09:54] <Harper> lol
[09:54] <AsadR> covOPprometheus: look in your 'dmesg' logfile
[09:54] <burhan> JamieBE: it should mount automatically when you plug it in.
[09:55] <TheReconHunter> I dont have any internet connection on my laptop, but i do have acess to my router
[09:55] <TheReconHunter> anyone know why>
[09:55] <burhan> Harper: #xgl will help.
[09:55] <ChaosFan> JamieBE: i know its calles udev, but do not have any experience with it
[09:55] <DangerousK> clearzen
[09:55] <looktj> mikeconcepts2: my mic doesnt work well
[09:55] <DangerousK> im so close to giving up
[09:55] <DangerousK> lol
[09:55] <covOPprometheus> AsadR, and what do I have to look for
[09:55] <Harper> ok
[09:55] <Harper> thanks
[09:55] <burhan> TheReconHunter: you have acess to your router, because your local connection is working :)
[09:55] <AsadR> covOPprometheus: the word "CD-ROM", or maybe "DVD"
[09:55] <burhan> JamieBE: what happens when you plug it in?
[09:55] <bluefusionxl> how do I reset my apt-get?  It is messed up so bad.  I keep getting these errors
[09:55] <TheReconHunter> Burhan: yeah, but any idea as to why my internet is dead?
[09:55] <bluefusionxl> http://pastebin.com/782927
[09:55] <Deacon> \
[09:55] <JamieBE> Burham/ChaosFan - Nyope - I have to click the disk mounter icon, and then select "mount" and then I can click it again and select "open"
[09:56] <Deacon> Is there a tutorial on how to enable monitor mode for orinoco cards?
[09:56] <burhan> TheReconHunter: what do you mean 'dead'.
[09:56] <leenix> i checked the services log file (can't remmeber the name of the top of my head) but didn't see anything in there
[09:56] <TheReconHunter> it simply doesnt work,
[09:56] <burhan> JamieBE: are you on dapper?
[09:56] <Naik0> Where can i locate gdesklets ?
[09:56] <TheReconHunter> in firefox i cannot connect to any website on that particular computer
[09:56] <JamieBE> burhan: yep.
[09:56] <burhan> Naik0: install them first (sudo apt-get install gdesklets) and then run it by typing gdesklets in a console.
[09:56] <PoundFool> leenix: ralus puts stuff in (depending on version, but usually) /opt/VRTS
[09:56] <burhan> JamieBE: what kind of disk is it?
[09:57] <PoundFool> there's an install/logs directory.
[09:57] <TheReconHunter> ** also, I unplugged my router/modem but still no luck
[09:57] <Naik0> burhan: i run it now but i want to add some desklets
[09:57] <Naik0> that i have
[09:57] <PoundFool> leenix: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/277215.htm
[09:57] <JohnsonE> can someone tell me the path to my firefox profile? I used to know it but i've.. well, forgotten, and I need to transfer over some bookmarks and extensions from windows
[09:57] <fishy> When I run "ipod" to monitor ipod status, it tells me my iPod isn't valid. How do I fix it? I'd like my iPod to work in Banshee
[09:57] <burhan> Naik0: I believe you can install gdesklets from the control applet for it.
[09:57] <covOPprometheus> AsadR, the cdrom is listed as hdb but it doesn't appear in dev
[09:57] <burhan> JohnsonE: ~/.mozilla/firefox I think
[09:57] <PoundFool> leenix: oops, wrong version. try: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/279329.htm
[09:58] <JamieBE> burhan: External USB2.0 300GB @ FAT32 7200RPM 8MB Cache Samsung something
[09:58] <|_SpY_|> somebody know where i can get gset-compiz ? i try to use apt-cache search gset-compiz . but return none :/
[09:58] <foo> Hm, my screen flickers every here and there. It did it before and after I set up my radeon drivers. Any ideas? It's not the monitor, and it doesn't do it in CLI. I'm thinking it's X Or something. Any ideas?
[09:58] <DangerousK> clearzen, you stil there?
[09:58] <burhan> JamieBE: ermm .. you have one 300 GB drive that's got one FAT32 partition?
[09:58] <TheReconHunter> Anyone know why my internet on my laptop isnt working, though i can connect to my local network?
[09:58] <JamieBE> burhan: YEP! :)
[09:58] <burhan> |_SpY_|: don't use gset-compiz, use gconf-editor -- and ask xgl questions in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:59] <burhan> JamieBE: you like to live dangerously. Anyway, what I need you do is, pastebin the last few lines from dmesg when you unplug and replug the device.
[09:59] <JamieBE> burhan: I have no idea what you just said - But it sounded really cool.
[09:59] <DangerousK> does anyone know anything about that shadow/nano command that clearzen was talking about?
[09:59] <burhan> foo: what kind of monitor are you on? You need to probably set the refresh rate.
[10:00] <TheReconHunter> Anyone know why my internet on my laptop isnt working, though i can connect to my local network?
[10:00] <foo> burhan: Hmmm, 19" IBM G97
[10:00] <PoundFool> JamieBE: the file /var/log/dmesg
[10:00] <JamieBE> burhan: I can access the info on the disk: Everything works - I just need it to mount on boot.
[10:00] <|_SpY_|> burhan: ok thankz but i really need get it... to configure aiglx :)
[10:00] <burhan> JamieBE: dmesg is a program that prints messages from the kernel. When you plug something in, it will register something there, and dmesg is how you see those messages. For the rest, see !pastebin
[10:00] <burhan> foo: is that a lcd?
[10:01] <DangerousK> argh
[10:01] <JamieBE> damn burhan: you are one smart cookie - why are you never here when I need a real problem fixed?
[10:01] <burhan> |_SpY_|: I don't think its supported anymore.
[10:01] <DangerousK> this is so furstrating
[10:01] <PoundFool> JamieBE: Please ignore me. I don't know what I'm talking about.
[10:01] <stebbins> burhan: i installed gcc3.4 and build-essentials
[10:01] <stebbins> but still not finding iostream
[10:01] <burhan> JamieBE: my good luck I guess.
[10:01] <TheReconHunter> Anyone know why my internet on my laptop isnt working, though i can connect to my local network?
[10:01] <JamieBE> PoundFool: It's the though that counts bro :)
[10:02] <burhan> hrmm, okay just a sec.
[10:02] <covOPprometheus> the cdrom is listed as hdb but it doesn't appear in dev, what should I do?
[10:02] <DangerousK> burhanm that shadow command he talked about
[10:02] <JamieBE> PoundFool: Wait, It could even be the THOUGHT
[10:02] <foo> burhan: Nope, CRT.
[10:02] <DangerousK> can you type it out, word for word how it will look
[10:02] <FRET> good evening
[10:02] <fishy> How can I get my iPod working in Banshee? It works in Rhythmbox, but I like Banshee better.
[10:02] <DangerousK> cause i tried nano/etc/shadow; and it says it doesnt exist
[10:02] <_gal-pal_> hi people
[10:02] <DangerousK> hey gal pal
[10:02] <JamieBE> burham: something about modification of "fstab" w/e that is for automounting?
[10:03] <mkquist_> thereconhunter - can u ping anything on the net?
[10:03] <linuchsan> DangerousK forgot a space ther
[10:03] <burhan> stebbins: try libcdev
[10:03] <DangerousK> i need to space?
[10:03] <burhan> foo: set the proper refresh rates?
[10:03] <TheReconHunter> mkquist, how do i ping in ubuntu
[10:03] <StoneNote> everyone needs space
[10:03] <DangerousK> where at linuch?
[10:03] <kalleth> 915resolution won't run because apparently it can't find the ID number in its database - my graphics card is showing as a Cirrus Logic GD5480 (rev 23) - is there a package for drivers for that graphics card?
[10:03] <mkquist_> thereconhunter - open terminal, ping xxxxxx
[10:03] <linuchsan> DangerousK: nano /etc/shadow not nano/etc/shadow
[10:03] <kalleth> (^ that's what lspci shows)
[10:03] <DangerousK> right i'll give it a run
[10:03] <TheReconHunter> what ip should i ping?
[10:04] <leenix> PoundFool: Thanks.. that gives me another place to look for errors.. I was only finding references to ralus install errors (/var/VRTSralus/beremote.service.log)
[10:04] <kalleth> i reckon the res problem could be down to not using correct gfx drivers
[10:04] <jhaig> I've got a live Ubuntu 6.06 CD in at the moment and I am trying to install a printer.  Everything seems to get detected correctly but then when I click 'apply' no printer gets set up.  Can anyone help?
[10:04] <burhan> JamieBE: yes, but you don't want to do that with a usb disk, otherwise your computer will hang for a while when booting if the disk isn't plugged in.
[10:04] <DangerousK> linuch, im in
[10:04] <burhan> kalleth: 915resolution is for intel-based cards only.
[10:04] <DangerousK> thank you
[10:04] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter, you can ping a host. like ubuntu.com
[10:04] <DangerousK> ....now i just gotta figure out what to do
[10:04] <DangerousK> lol
[10:04] <mkquist_> thereconhunter - try 64.233.187.99:
[10:04] <covOPprometheus> the cdrom is listed as hdb but it doesn't appear in dev, what should I do?
[10:04] <bigdaddy> hi
[10:05] <JamieBE> Burhan: Sorry, I am an eejit - Where do I find this dmesg thang?
[10:05] <foo> burhan: hmm, ok, thanks. I'll try that.
[10:05] <burhan> JamieBE: just type 'dmesg'
[10:05] <BiGdAdDy_> sorry im back
[10:05] <burhan> JamieBE: and you'll see a bunch of stuff.
[10:05] <TheReconHunter> it looks like im getting info back
[10:05] <mkquist_> therconhunter  - google
[10:05] <TheReconHunter> when i tried google, no dice
[10:05] <Digital> does anyone know what I need to do so that I can watch wmv files on the web?
[10:05] <TheReconHunter> but with the ip you gav eme
[10:05] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: btw, Ctrl+C to stop pinging
[10:05] <mkquist_> threconhunter - dns prob maybe, try ping google.com
[10:05] <TheReconHunter> lol thx
[10:06] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: some hosts dont respond to pings
[10:06] <burhan> Digital: install the codecs
[10:06] <TheReconHunter> okay, taht ping test 57/58 packets recieved
[10:06] <mkquist_> thereconhunter - lol forgot the ctrl c, sry
[10:06] <TheReconHunter> 1% packet loss
[10:06] <foo> burhan: hm, what's the word in xorg.conf again I'm looking for?
[10:06] <TheReconHunter> np
[10:06] <burhan> VertRefresh or something like that.
[10:07] <TheReconHunter> it says unknown host http://www.google.com
[10:07] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: dont add http://
[10:07] <JamieBE> Burhan: Genius -> How do i send you the output?
[10:07] <TheReconHunter> JoseStefan- tried www.google.com
[10:07] <TheReconHunter> no dice
[10:07] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: for ping that is
[10:07] <TheReconHunter> right
[10:07] <burhan> JamieBE: pastebin the stuff.
[10:07] <burhan> !pastebin
[10:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:07] <mkquist_> thereconterhunter - dns problem then
[10:08] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: you have DNS issues?
[10:08] <stebbins> can anyone offer help with Anjuta?  It's unable to see <iostream>
[10:08] <JamieBE> Burhan: pastebin?
[10:08] <TheReconHunter> what is DNS?
[10:08] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: DNS translates named hosts, into IPs
[10:08] <TheReconHunter> and how would i come about fixing these problems
[10:08] <kalleth> i've already set the driver to 'cirrus' and it still won't let me change resolution to 1024x768 even though that's the first file in my xorg.conf file - help1!!
[10:08] <burhan> DNS is the service that translates domain names (google.com) to IP addresses
[10:08] <covOPprometheus> the cdrom is listed as hdb but it doesn't appear in dev, what should I do?
[10:08] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: can you visit any other website like: yahoo.com ?
[10:08] <burhan> !pastebin > JamieBE
[10:08] <xenos76> can someone help me set up my printer?
[10:08] <DangerousK> linuch, can you help me out a little more?
[10:08] <TheReconHunter> negatice
[10:08] <TheReconHunter> *negative
[10:08] <TheReconHunter> no websites at all
[10:09] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: hmm, how did you get into IRC ?
[10:09] <TheReconHunter> diff computer ^___^
[10:09] <TheReconHunter> sry if I didnt make that clear
[10:09] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: are they on the same network?
[10:09] <TheReconHunter> yep
[10:09] <TheReconHunter> the same router
[10:09] <TheReconHunter> both hardwired
[10:09] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: do they both run linux?
[10:10] <TheReconHunter> both double boots with xp
[10:10] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: are you on linux now?
[10:10] <TheReconHunter> aye
[10:10] <JamieBE> Burhan: Damn - That is some CLEVER stuff! I have pasted as "JamieBE"
[10:10] <xenos76> can someone please show me how i can set up my printer?
[10:10] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: my guess is the other PC has no DNS settings at all
[10:10] <linuchsan> DangerousK: depends
[10:10] <TheReconHunter> well, i JUST installed windows xp and ubuntu on it like 2 hours ago
[10:10] <DangerousK> linuch, im in the console
[10:11] <DangerousK> but i have no idea what im doing
[10:11] <DangerousK> the guy said
[10:11] <TheReconHunter> so im not sure what i did wrong etc
[10:11] <holycow> I'm having trouble installing kubuntu from ubuntu
[10:11] <DangerousK> i have to run 2 commands
[10:11] <DangerousK> one is my user name
[10:11] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: your ISP will usually provide you with 2 DNS servers (two IPs)
[10:11] <DangerousK> the other is the password hash, if i remove the hash then theres no password
[10:11] <DangerousK> do u have any idea what he means?
[10:11] <holycow> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is having some dependency problems
[10:11] <linuchsan> DangerousK: passwd username
[10:11] <TheReconHunter> okay, so what do i do now?
[10:12] <DangerousK> just run it like that?
[10:12] <linuchsan> DangerousK: yes
[10:12] <JamieBE> If ubuntu was a woman I would have his babies???
[10:12] <DangerousK> okay, then what?
[10:12] <DangerousK> how do i make it work
[10:12] <sris> Can anyone see something wrong with this /etc/fstab? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZSBLht97.html
[10:12] <angelo_> anyone tried nspluginwrapper?
[10:12] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: go to System, Administration , Networking, DNS tab
[10:12] <JamieBE> Burhan: Damn - Hows that pastebin looking buddy?
[10:13] <brainiac_ghost_> hi
[10:13] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: tell me what you see there, is the server list empty?
[10:13] <TheReconHunter> i found a dynamic DNS tab in my router
[10:13] <TheReconHunter> should i do anything with it>
[10:13] <linuchsan> DangerousK: but username must be you username like passwd DangerousK
[10:13] <brainiac_ghost_> anyone know how to get an inventel (livebox) usb dongle working with linux
[10:13] <brainiac_ghost_> 80211g
[10:13] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: not yet
[10:13] <pequatre> hello. has anyone tried SwiftFox ? if so, does it scr*w your firefox install ?? thanks.
[10:13] <kyawzin> Hi anyone can help me with setting up LAN using Ubuntu ?
[10:14] <bluefox83> how do i add someone to sudo?
[10:14] <TheReconHunter> JoseStefan: Serverlist is empty
[10:14] <erUSUL> bluefox83: ad her to the admin group
[10:14] <burhan> JamieBE: I need more information than that, is that all it said -- that's the last line in dmesg?
[10:14] <mustasj> bluefox83: add the user to the adm group, or admin, I do not recall
[10:14] <erUSUL> bluefox83: System>Admin>users
[10:14] <dalamar> whats the best program to for using a hauppage wintv card?
[10:14] <bluefox83> ok..now for the bad news...
[10:14] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: you could put 2 dns servers there now, but it wont stay on reboot (i dont know how to do that) still, it's worth the test
[10:15] <JamieBE> Last line was [17182209.640000]  usb 4-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5
[10:15] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: your ISP should have provided you with two DNS server IPs
[10:15] <DangerousK> linuch, okay i did it, now how do i execute it?
[10:15] <bluefox83> i edited my /etc/sudoers list with nano via sudo..
[10:15] <linuchsan> dalamar:tvtime
[10:15] <bluefox83> how do i fix that?
[10:15] <TheReconHunter> well my computer that works has my router adress as the DNS server, should i use that for the DNS server?
[10:15] <hollywoodstar> anyone know howto install ubuntu without a cd drive ??
[10:15] <dalamar> okay i ll try that
[10:15] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: try that
[10:15] <TheReconHunter> Roger
[10:15] <burhan> JamieBE: what the last line in /var/log/messages ? (type tail /var/log/messages)
[10:15] <burhan> !installation > hollywoodstar
[10:15] <hollywoodstar> ?
[10:16] <burhan> !installation
[10:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:16] <linuchsan> dalamar:is it that you want to change your password?
[10:16] <hollywoodstar> ah
[10:16] <TheReconHunter> Horray, it works!
[10:16] <TheReconHunter> Much thanks to all who helped me
[10:16] <kyawzin> I want to setup direct network connection between my lapto which is on Winodw XP and Ubuntu server desktop
[10:16] <DangerousK> you mean mean, linuch?
[10:16] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: one problem, that setting doesnt stay on reboot
[10:16] <kyawzin> but I have no idea where to start
[10:16] <TheReconHunter> Darn
[10:16] <TheReconHunter> lol
[10:16] <mkquist_> thereconhunter - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5690
[10:16] <linuchsan> DangerousK:oeps yes you
[10:17] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: you either have to find a way to make it permanant, OR use a DHCP service from your Router
[10:17] <JamieBE> Burhan: I have amended the Pastebin post to show tail /var/log/messages output
[10:17] <DangerousK> i was told i could just delete the password
[10:17] <mkquist_> threconhunter- this will show how to fix that i think
[10:17] <DangerousK> so i typed out
[10:17] <TheReconHunter> aight, thanks
[10:17] <DangerousK> passwrd ubuntu
[10:17] <DangerousK> thats it
[10:17] <DangerousK> now how do i make it work
[10:17] <TheReconHunter> and i am gunna need to set up my wireless as well
[10:18] <TheReconHunter> so ill be back after i get a few updates
[10:18] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter: i prefer setting up the router's DHCP server, that way i dont have to worry about networking settings ever again
[10:18] <bluefox83> ok..i just broke a /etc/sudoers file...
[10:19] <bluefox83> how do i fix it without being able to open the file with sudo?
[10:19] <DangerousK> linuch, i typed out passwrd ubuntu(because ubuntu is the user name)
[10:19] <DangerousK> so now what?
[10:19] <TheReconHunter> well, my brother is going off to college, and the laptop is for him
[10:19] <JamieBE> Burhan: If this is taking up too much of your time then just tell me to shove it dude - I dont wanna be a hassle.
[10:19] <gubuntu> can someone help me get my borders back after trying to install xgl/compiz
[10:20] <bluefox83> HELLO! broken sudo! help?
[10:20] <linuchsan> DangerousK:is it that you want to change your password?
[10:20] <foo> How do I set the refresh rates for my monitor? Hmm
[10:20] <DangerousK> to what passwrd?
[10:20] <JoseStefan> gubuntu, #ubuntu-xgl
[10:20] <gubuntu> no help there
[10:20] <gubuntu> :(
[10:20] <SocratesJedi> Heyas, I'm trying to change screen resolution to 1152x864 from 1024x768 yet this option doesn't exist in Gnome's applet.  I've tried modifying the xorg.conf file to include this having read several FAQs on the topic, but without any significant success.  Could someone help me perhaps?
[10:20] <bluefox83> !sudo
[10:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:20] <simaro> hi
[10:21] <linuchsan> DangerousK:what is your goal?
[10:21] <simaro> I wanna a help..how can I do to mount a partition for all users ????
[10:21] <DangerousK> im trying just to try to log on lol
[10:21] <TheReconHunter> how do i update my repositories, sudo apt-get upgrade?
[10:21] <JamieBE> Burhan: Cool bro?
[10:21] <DangerousK> but it keeps saying user name and password are wrogn
[10:21] <DangerousK> and they are not.
[10:21] <DangerousK> so im like 10 seconds away from saying goodbye to linux
[10:21] <DangerousK> cause im seriously losing patience
[10:22] <simaro> :-)
[10:22] <javb> hi people.. i wonder, why isnt there the option (firefox) which is Right click on an imege --> Copy image ?
[10:22] <looktj> ubotu, pantience
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pantience - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <javb> just save image as, and save location ?
[10:22] <foo> How can I set my monitor refresh rate? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't ask for that. hmm
[10:22] <TheReconHunter> javb- not sure, its just as easy to save to desktop tho
[10:22] <TheReconHunter> i noticed it before too
[10:22] <linuchsan> DangerousK:have you just installed ubuntu?
[10:23] <DangerousK> 3 times in a row ><
[10:23] <freesun> can anyone help me? I have samsung MFP SCX-4100 and I got it to work before I reinstalled ubuntu... now I can't... I install it via System->Administration->Printing but when I want to print anythin it goes to Pause mode... ? Usb is connected and installed and printer is powered on. (and says ready and has paper)
[10:23] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter, sudo apt-get update, do that 1st
[10:23] <freesun> driver from manufacturer is installed
[10:23] <looktj> don't cap your name dangerousk
[10:23] <Digital> does anyone know how to get hotkey support in xmms?
 its not as easy, i think. :s
[10:24] <javb> I use this very much.. copy and then Ctrl + v
[10:24] <DangerousK> what do u mean looktj?
[10:24] <DangerousK> i didnt cap it
[10:24] <TheReconHunter> javb- same with me
[10:24] <cherubiel> aburton: how did it go?
[10:24] <TheReconHunter> javb- o well
[10:24] <linuchsan> DangerousK:during installation it asked for a usrname and password, that's what you have to use.
[10:24] <bluefox83> ok, am i to believe that not one person here knows how to repair a broken sudo configuration?
[10:24] <DangerousK> and i did
[10:24] <DangerousK> and it wont take
[10:24] <DangerousK> 3 times now.
[10:24] <javb> this is weird, because firefox under Windows has this option ...
[10:24] <javb> thats what suprise me.
[10:25] <linuchsan> DangerousK:looktj said is your capslock on
[10:25] <DangerousK> i know
[10:25] <DangerousK> and it isnt
[10:25] <looktj> dangerousk your name should all be lowercase
[10:25] <DangerousK> it is.
[10:25] <DangerousK> ubuntu
[10:26] <DangerousK> just like that.
[10:26] <DangerousK> im in the nano shadow thing
[10:26] <looktj> hmmm
[10:26] <DangerousK> and i already have in, passwrd ubuntu
[10:26] <DangerousK> but i know you have to do something to run it right?
[10:26] <linuchsan> DangerousK:no...passwd ubuntu
[10:26] <looktj> is any saved passwords?
[10:26] <mookid> is there a package containing codecs or a player that has divx vxid codecs?
[10:26] <looktj> file?
[10:26] <DangerousK> i dont know what im doign
[10:26] <DangerousK> im afraid to say it
[10:27] <JollyGnome> hello good people
[10:27] <DangerousK> but im giving up
[10:27] <DangerousK> i have no clue what to do or what im doing
[10:27] <JollyGnome> I've been having network problems, and I was wondering if you could help
[10:27] <looktj> dangerousk you give up too easily
[10:27] <DangerousK> that may be tru
[10:27] <hlabs>  help. I need help in setting up a file server
[10:27] <DangerousK> but why the fuck wont it take my password?
[10:27] <looktj> be stubborn ;)
[10:27] <DangerousK> every time
[10:27] <DangerousK> it's to the T
[10:28] <Zarathu> need help with XGL/Compiz, when I enable the composite extension, my xserver won't start
[10:28] <cherubiel> !divx
[10:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <Zarathu> can anybody give me a hand?
[10:28] <linuchsan> DangerousK:but how can you change things, if you can't login
[10:28] <superkirbyartist> How do you update from breezy to draper.  (Say my name when replying).
[10:28] <DangerousK> because im in the recovery mode
[10:28] <JollyGnome> it seems the dhcp overrides the dns addresses, and I can't use the ones my isp gave me
[10:28] <Lobster> n8
[10:28] <mookid> !divx
[10:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <superkirbyartist> Need help to update from breezy to draper.
[10:28] <linuchsan> DangerousK:ok..type whoami
[10:29] <JollyGnome> I tried changing them, but they just change back to 192.168.1.1 (the adsl-box)
[10:29] <hlabs> i need to setup a file server in ubuntu could someone please help me
[10:29] <DangerousK> naw im good linuch
[10:29] <DangerousK> i give up for now.
[10:29] <deitarion> An Ubuntu-using friend of mine is reporting that his spacebar doesn't work, even when trying several other known-good keyboards. What should i tell him? I've never heard of anything like it.
[10:29] <DangerousK> i have no clue what im doing
[10:29] <DangerousK> all i know is, it wouldnt take my passwords and user names
[10:29] <ljbade> Anybody know why nautalis can't mount my Win XP NTFS partition? I get the error "error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable" "error: could not execute pmount"
[10:29] <looktj> wait dude
[10:29] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to convert AVI to WMV...thanx
[10:29] <DangerousK> that's total bullshit
[10:29] <looktj> go on live cd
[10:30] <IIIEars> !language
[10:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:30] <DangerousK> i apologise
[10:30] <DangerousK> im so sorry admin
[10:30] <DangerousK> im just losing my head here
[10:30] <DangerousK> it's still noe xcuse, but i hope u understand
[10:30] <punkmexic> hello
[10:30] <DangerousK> it is on live cd
[10:30] <JohnsonE> what do i do to check my wine for updates?
[10:30] <looktj> thats odd
[10:30] <DangerousK> i seriously wonder what in the (beep) wont make this stupid a$$ distro work ><
[10:31] <punkmexic> how do i skip something in terminal?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> JohnsonE: how did you install wine?
[10:31] <JollyGnome> although... it seems to be working just fine now that I disabled dhcp and put the ip, mask and gateway by hand..
[10:31] <DangerousK> god and i want to run linux like the dickens
[10:31] <ljbade> Anybody know why nautalis can't mount my Win XP NTFS partition? I get the error "error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable" "error: could not execute pmount"
[10:31] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to convert AVI to WMV...thanx
[10:31] <IIIEars> millions use linux everyday you can too. - Hang in there! :)
[10:31] <JohnsonE> gnome: through symantec i THINK, i can't quite remember though
[10:31] <looktj> did you click install  that on the desktop?
[10:31] <punkmexic> for example my terminal says this   99% [Esperando las cabeceras]  and i want to skip it
[10:31] <linuchsan> DangerousK:what do you see on your screen now?
[10:31] <DangerousK> nothing
[10:31] <gnomefreak> DangerousK: dont use the $$ thinking its slick its still not ok
[10:31] <cherubiel> ljbade: are you able to run windows?
[10:31] <DangerousK> i turned it off.
[10:31] <vapermonkey00> how do i setup a start up prg when i log on
[10:31] <ljbade> cherubiel: yes
[10:31] <DangerousK> and it's staying off.
[10:31] <linuchsan> DangerousK:ok
[10:32] <bluefusionxl> how do I reset my apt-get?  It is messed up so bad.  I keep getting these errors
[10:32] <hlabs> How can i setup a file server
[10:32] <DangerousK> i've had it on since like 10
[10:32] <gnomefreak> JohnsonE: than you will recieve updates like you do for rest of programs
[10:32] <hlabs> please help
[10:32] <DangerousK> 10 am here
[10:32] <bluefusionxl> http://pastebin.com/782927
[10:32] <Almindor> anyone experienced troubles with monodevelop?
[10:32] <DangerousK> and i installed 3 times
[10:32] <bluefusionxl> thats whath appened
[10:32] <JohnsonE> and by symantec i mean synaptic :(
[10:32] <DangerousK> and each time, the password and user name dont match
[10:32] <Almindor> I get a "hard freeze" whenever I start it (and I mean KERNEL freeze)
[10:32] <DangerousK> im bout ready to kick this damm thing
[10:32] <freesun> please tell me, when I have alsa installed does it mean I have all alsa drivers so I can load modules to kernel?
[10:32] <gnomefreak> JohnsonE: i figured :)
[10:32] <looktj> Dangerousk: ok your choice...if you like xp, tweak it up
[10:32] <wheels3572> When Ubuntu Loads up aren't you supposed to have a background and or workspaces in the bottom right?
[10:32] <DangerousK> no
[10:32] <gnomefreak> freesun: alsa = drivers
[10:32] <DangerousK> i dont use xp
[10:32] <DangerousK> i use 2kpro on my new PC
[10:32] <cherubiel> ljbade: tried mounting from the command promtp? sudo mount /dev/sdb# some/folder ?
[10:32] <DangerousK> linux ran with no problems when i used like mandrake
[10:33] <looktj> oh
[10:33] <DangerousK> in 2002
[10:33] <mookid> !xvid
[10:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <DangerousK> but this is f'n stupid
[10:33] <ljbade> cherubiel: will try now
[10:33] <cherubiel> ljbade: replace # with the device nos
[10:33] <freesun> gnomefreak: thanks... now I have to figure out why it doesn't worka after I load module to kernel :D
[10:33] <JohnsonE> ok just marked wine for upgrade.
[10:33] <gnomefreak> !sound > freesun
[10:33] <DangerousK> i dont like XP
[10:33] <gnomefreak> freesun: check your pm
[10:33] <DangerousK> i wouldnt mind runing it, but 2kpro works ok.
[10:34] <freesun> cheesy AC '97, I should have bought another SB Live till they had some :D
[10:34] <JohnsonE> i'd like to use linux permanently but linux doesn't support FL Studio yet :(
[10:34] <freesun> gnomegreak : thanks :)
[10:34] <freesun> gnomefreak (sorry for misspeling your nick ;)
[10:34] <cherubiel> ljbade: contents of /etc/pmount?
[10:34] <linuchsan> DangerousK:back to mandrake again then.
[10:34] <gnomefreak> DangerousK: i am not warning you again to watch your language and shortening it or using other chars is not a way around it
[10:34] <looktj> DangerousK: do you have beta 2 installer or still beta 1 installer?
[10:34] <cherubiel> ljbade: /etc/pmount.allow
[10:34] <wheels3572> Cna anyone tell me why I have a blank screen with nohting on it?
[10:34] <DangerousK> fine freak
[10:34] <ljbade> cherubiel: wait im still mountiung
[10:35] <linuchsan> gnomefreak: DangerousK is trolling
[10:35] <DangerousK> tj
[10:35] <DangerousK> i dont know
[10:35] <looktj> there was a flaw in the beta 1 installer dangerousk
[10:35] <DangerousK> whatever is on this mirror
[10:35] <gnomefreak> linuchsan: im watching
[10:35] <DangerousK> well whatever is in ubuntu site, i downloaded it
[10:35] <DangerousK> trollling?
[10:35] <DangerousK> excuse me?
[10:35] <JohnsonE> i don't need to restart for my wine upgrade to apply, do i?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> JohnsonE: doubt it but it cant hurt
[10:36] <DangerousK> what do u mean by trolling?
[10:36] <DangerousK> im looking for awnsers
[10:36] <gnomefreak> DangerousK: what seems to be the problem you are having?
[10:36] <vapermonkey00> i just put on gdesklets and when i restart it dosnt load how do i get it to turn on when i log on
[10:36] <DangerousK> nothing more
[10:36] <DangerousK> well sir
[10:36] <ljbade> cherubiel: pmount.allow has no enties except for the #... comments at the top
[10:36] <DangerousK> i installed ubuntu 3 times
[10:36] <DangerousK> and 3 times it denies me, even though i have put in correct user name and password
[10:36] <cherubiel> ljbade: ahh, add /dev/sdxx
[10:36] <DangerousK> so you can tell the frustration is definitely there
[10:36] <cherubiel> ljbade: and you will be good
[10:37] <looktj> gnomefreak: password problems with dangerousk
[10:37] <ljbade> cherubiel: sdxx?
[10:37] <gnomefreak> DangerousK: installing from same disk? and what is the user name you are using?
[10:37] <DangerousK> ubuntu
[10:37] <gnomefreak> cant
[10:37] <vapermonkey00> i had that same problem dangerousk
[10:37] <TheReconHunter> Josestefan, are u still there>
[10:37] <gnomefreak> ubuntu is a reserved name
[10:37] <DangerousK> why didnt it say so?
[10:37] <cherubiel> ljbade: /dev/hda1. sorry  i thought you had a scsci drive
[10:37] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter,  i am now
[10:37] <DangerousK> i also used Hayashi
[10:37] <gnomefreak> its a bug in the 6.06 live installer
[10:37] <ljbade> cherubiel: its ok
[10:37] <vapermonkey00> i just used a older copy
[10:38] <gnomefreak> DangerousK: its fixed in the 6.06.1 live cd iirc
[10:38] <DangerousK> are you refering to my problem gnome?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> DangerousK: yes
[10:38] <looktj> dangerousk: there ya go gnomefreak answers your problem
[10:38] <TheReconHunter> aight, now, im putting that ndiswrapper on the laptop
[10:38] <DangerousK> so your telling me the ISO i downloaded is garbage?
[10:38] <luckyone> can anyone in here help me figure out samba filesharing?
[10:38] <cmiller> Where would my usb external hd be located? /dev/?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> DangerousK: use a different name
[10:38] <DangerousK> i did
[10:38] <DangerousK> i used Hayashi
[10:38] <TheReconHunter> so i can use the wireless drivers
[10:38] <JoseStefan> !tell luckyone about samba
[10:38] <DangerousK> and still nothing
[10:38] <vapermonkey00> how about program start up?
[10:38] <TheReconHunter> will i still ahve to somehow configure the DNS?
[10:38] <ljbade> cherubiel: sweet work fine now! should add that info to the documentation
[10:39] <gnomefreak> does it give you anything? like an error while making it?
[10:39] <DangerousK> no
[10:39] <DangerousK> it just keeps saying
[10:39] <cherubiel> ljbade: beerware :P
[10:39] <DangerousK> user name and password dont work
[10:39] <sc0tch> Any recommendations on a "good" vnc server over a lan?
[10:39] <cherubiel> sc0tch: tightvnc
[10:39] <aburton> cherubiel: didn't work
[10:39] <srivatsan> hey
[10:39] <gnomefreak> DangerousK: is it running in a loop or the install finishes and you cant log in
[10:39] <srivatsan> dumbo
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[10:39] <aburton> cherubiel: "not exacutable" or something
[10:39] <DangerousK> the later, freak.
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[10:39] <looktj> !flood
[10:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
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[10:39] <LoRez> Warning: `srivatsan' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[10:40] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter,  probably, consider using the DHCP service of your router, you can set such network settings there, and ubuntu will just pull them from the router
[10:40] <srivatsan> 
[10:40] <srivatsan> fdamn
[10:40] <looktj> !spam
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <Zarathu> The composite extension on my PC won't load, it crashes my OS because it says that it can't find compatible video card drivers--help.
[10:40] <wikijeff> Is there a way to get mathematica or an equivalent package for ubuntu????
[10:40] <DangerousK> thanks for the help ecveryone
[10:40] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter, the other option is setting the DNS settings in a persistant fashion, there i a way, but i dont know it
[10:40] <TheReconHunter> JoseStefan, the laptop is bound for another network (my brother's college) so doing so would be pointless
[10:40] <cherubiel> rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[10:40] <cherubiel> makeactive
[10:40] <cherubiel> chainloader +1
[10:40] <cherubiel> map (hd1) (hd0)
[10:40] <ljbade> cherbiel: do you know what wine is called in apt-get? sudo apt-get install wine isn;t getting me anywhere
[10:40] <cherubiel> map (hd0) (hd1)
[10:40] <vapermonkey00> where do i go to get a app to start on log in
[10:40] <cherubiel> !info wine
[10:40] <chameleon> Toshiba laptop Radeon Xpress 200M (RC410) no DRI glxinfo direct rendering: No any ideas?
[10:40] <cherubiel> !wine
[10:40] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[10:40] <looktj> thanks gnomefreak
[10:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:41] <clearzen> @ dangerous I don't think your username and pass can be the same thing
[10:41] <DangerousK> they arent.
[10:41] <erUSUL> wikijeff: warez, or try maxima or axiom
[10:41] <DangerousK> i use different passes
[10:41] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter, if the collage has a correctly configured DHCP server, the user will not have to worry about network settings
[10:41] <cherubiel> aburton: and show me your boot.ini in windows
[10:41] <DangerousK> the last time i used ubuntu as a name
[10:41] <DangerousK> i used numbers
[10:41] <JoseStefan> college*
[10:41] <glick> hey is thunderbird better then evolution?
[10:41] <DangerousK> and they matched and still nothing
[10:41] <clearzen> one sec
[10:41] <DangerousK> clearzen
[10:41] <clearzen> yes
[10:41] <DangerousK> there isnt one master password?
[10:41] <TheReconHunter> oh
[10:41] <TheReconHunter> okay lol
[10:41] <gnomefreak> glick: cant answer that better is someones opinion
[10:41] <DangerousK> or one master user account
[10:41] <DangerousK> to slip in>?
[10:42] <wikijeff> erUSUL: warez? you mean download it ilegally and run it using wine?
[10:42] <omnid_> glick: matter of opinion
[10:42] <TheReconHunter> im not sure as to why mine is acting all weird
[10:42] <DangerousK> i mean it's been installed 3 times
[10:42] <gnomefreak> glick: if you want what is better than ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:42] <clearzen> yes you can change it with the command sudo passwd root
[10:42] <clearzen> sudo passwd root is the command
[10:42] <erUSUL> wikijeff: dl the illegal linux version (iirc there is a native linux version)
[10:42] <DangerousK> clearzen, i dont know what i m doing
[10:42] <glick> does thunderbird have a calender component?
[10:42] <DangerousK> please excuse my uh, lack of know how?
[10:42] <DangerousK> lol
[10:42] <clearzen> one sec man i'm at work
[10:42] <steveire> Can I add users with blank passwords, so that the user can set the password himself?
[10:42] <TheReconHunter> Crap, this is the shittiest laptop ever, it just shut off to avoid overheating
[10:42] <looktj> knowledge is the word dangerousk
[10:43] <DangerousK> hey, i didnt know we were in english class
[10:43] <DangerousK> ;)
[10:43] <looktj> lawl
[10:43] <clearzen> are you in recovery mode?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> glick: yes it does its a add on from mozillas plugin site
[10:43] <bluefox83> clearzen, you wouldn't happen to know how to restore a /etc/sudoers would you? i edited my freind's and now he can't do anything with sudo :/
[10:43] <DangerousK> i'll get into recover mode
[10:43] <DangerousK> one more time, cause your tryin so hard for me clearzen
[10:43] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter, it is possible your DHCP is enabled, but it is not sending the DNS settings. Considering you only needed to add the DNS and your LAN IPs were already correct.
[10:43] <gnomefreak> wikijeff: no warze talk in here or any other #ubuntu channel
[10:44] <wikijeff> gnomefreak: I know, I don't use warez, I just wanted to make sure I understood what he was saying
[10:44] <TheReconHunter> any idea hwo to fix?
[10:44] <sKuarecircle> hey boys, any idea how to play mp3's in rythmbox?
[10:44] <kuito\idle> hi, when i can install ubuntu daper from cd? i have install ubuntu breezy
[10:45] <gnomefreak> if he told you to wikijeff he was wrong in telling you to and that is not what ubuntu is about.
[10:45] <kyawzin> can anybod help me with setting up network between Window and Ubuntu server?
[10:45] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter, try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StaticDnsWithDhcp
[10:45] <DangerousK> ok im in recovery mode
[10:45] <gnomefreak> erUSUL: you ever recommend warze you will be banned
[10:45] <DangerousK> clearzen, im n
[10:45] <wikijeff> gnomefreak: yeah, I'm a programmer myself and am against anything illegal
[10:45] <ShoeUnited> samba
[10:46] <DangerousK> gnome, whats warze?
[10:46] <voici> hey, where can i set global environment vars for all users like PS1? i tried (like described in the wiki) to create /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90environment but it didn't change my prompt in X
[10:46] <clearzen> at the command line type         sudo passwd root
[10:46] <TheReconHunter> alright, thanks josestefan, youve been a big help
[10:46] <JoseStefan> np
[10:46] <kuito\idle> hi, when i can install ubuntu daper from cd? i have install ubuntu breezy
[10:46] <kuito\idle> hi, when i can install ubuntu daper from cd? i have install ubuntu breezy
[10:46] <gnomefreak> warez DangerousK
[10:46] <gnomefreak> its illegal
[10:46] <erUSUL> gnomefreak: ok sorry :( i will never do it again. but i give her two open source options too...
[10:46] <looktj> like downloading without paying
[10:46] <gnomefreak> kuito\idle: try not to repeat yourself like that please
[10:46] <DangerousK> oh yeah it is illegal to download warez.
[10:46] <freesun> ppl, where should I look for a log of Multiemdia Systems Selector log? it crashes on startup...?
[10:47] <DangerousK> clearzen
[10:47] <DangerousK> says enter new UNIX PASWWORD
[10:47] <clearzen> type in your new password
[10:47] <steveire> kuito\idle: what is your first language?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> freesun: try /var/log/something
[10:47] <clearzen> and then confirm it
[10:47] <sKuarecircle> mp3's?....................Rythmbox...................................not playing.............................help?
[10:47] <freesun> thanks gf ;)
[10:47] <kuito\idle> spanish
[10:48] <steveire> !sp
[10:48] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[10:48] <clearzen> then startx and it should work :)
[10:48] <TheReconHunter> Another question, what is the latest install of amaroK, 2.14?
[10:48] <DangerousK> (prays)
[10:48] <DangerousK> lol
[10:48] <JoseStefan> !es
[10:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:48] <greg> sKuarecircle: why not just use another app?
[10:48] <glick> gnomefreak, whats the plugin called? i cant find it on the thunderbird  site?
[10:48] <steveire> ah, of course.
[10:48] <bedazzled_> after playing AC3 sound via SPDIF, i can't play any PCM sound (mp3, radio, tv etc.) on a SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS. i can only play via SPDIF now... any ideas? i didn't touch the alsamixer at all
[10:48] <Popher> Hello
[10:48] <kyawzin> can you somebody help me with networking stuff?
[10:48] <kuito\idle> thanks
[10:48] <gnomefreak> glick: i dont remember let me see if i have it downloaded still
[10:49] <TheReconHunter> bedazzled, make sure that your integraded mobo audio is off, i had a big sound problem and that was why
[10:49] <steveire> kyawzin: Without knowing what the issue is, I recommend network/manager
[10:49] <ucordes> can anyone tell me how i add a windows startup entry to my grub after i installed grub over the windows 2000 loader?
[10:49] <Naik0> Hey, im doing my own gdesklet now and i wonder if i can show info from my mysql DB ?
[10:49] <steveire> network-manager
[10:49] <ucordes> do i have to reinstall windows mbr?
[10:49] <bedazzled_> TheReconHunter: it is disabled from the BIOS :)
[10:49] <bluefusionxl> how do I reset my apt-get?  It is messed up so bad.  I keep getting these errors
[10:49] <bluefusionxl> http://pastebin.com/782927 - what it said
[10:49] <kyawzin> network-manager? It is a software package I should install?
[10:49] <TheReconHunter> aight, then i cant help you really ;-/
[10:49] <looktj> clearzen: what user exactly does sudo passwd root changes the password of?
[10:50] <clearzen> the su account
[10:50] <steveire> depends what the issue is. it's a handy package for wireless networks at least
[10:50] <looktj> the root account?
[10:50] <clearzen> yes
[10:50] <looktj> oh ok
[10:50] <steveire> What is the issue kyawzin
[10:50] <Kragnerac> !xubuntu
[10:50] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <greg> ucordes: reinstall grub
[10:50] <bluefusionxl> how do I reset my apt-get?  It is messed up so bad.  I keep getting these errors
[10:50] <bluefusionxl> http://pastebin.com/782927 - what it said
[10:50] <gnomefreak> glick: https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?q=calendar&type=A&app=thunderbird
[10:50] <ucordes> greg: that is where i am now.
[10:51] <DangerousK> hey clearzen
[10:51] <DangerousK> no dice
[10:51] <DangerousK> it didnt work
[10:51] <ucordes> but the windows is missing since i reinstalled
[10:51] <linuchsan> ucordes:look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:51] <clearzen> you can type su <enter> and then your password to log into a root terminal also after issuing the command
[10:51] <greg> it should auto detect all oses
[10:51] <linuchsan> ucordes:frome line 41
[10:51] <clearzen> ok danger one sec
[10:51] <kyawzin> I want to setup LAN using Ubuntu Desktop as LAN
[10:51] <mkquist_> ucordes - try editing ur etc/grub/menu.lst?
[10:51] <JoseStefan> pastebin is not working for me
[10:51] <ucordes> ok ???
[10:51] <clearzen> try issuing sudo oem-configure-prepare from the command line
[10:51] <kyawzin> * using Ubuntu Desktop as server
[10:51] <bedazzled_> there was an alsa CLI app that fixed my issue... but i can't remember the name. anyone? :|
[10:51] <steveire> Can I have users without passwords on ubuntu?
[10:51] <looktj> dangerousk: type root as user?
[10:52] <ucordes> linuchsan: no windows entry there
[10:52] <glick> thanks
[10:52] <ucordes> linuchsan: how can i add one?
[10:52] <bluefusionxl> anywhere else you want me to paste it to?\
[10:52] <TheReconHunter> Now, i have a windows on an ntfs file system, any idea as to why ubuntu cant read it?
[10:52] <ChrisCox> Hello everyone
[10:52] <covOPprometheus> the cdrom is listed as hdb but it doesn't appear in dev, what should I do?
[10:52] <steveire> kyawzin: OK, I wouldn't know where to start with that myself. Have you done the server install already?
[10:52] <linuchsan> ucordes:is windows on the first partition?
[10:53] <ChrisCox> Hey guys, can anyone help me with a wireless problem?
[10:53] <covOPprometheus> ChrisCox, shoot
[10:53] <Uriku> yay my vid card is working ^_^
[10:53] <angel12> hey whats up guys
[10:53] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, did you do the suggested command?
[10:53] <Uriku> I'm just happy
[10:53] <ucordes> linuchsan: no, i think my first partition is the linux one. i have windows on a fat32
[10:53] <Uriku> I can ran those pwning screen savers
[10:53] <bluefusionxl> http://pastebin.ca/160079
[10:54] <ChrisCox> Well i have a card made by SparkLAN (Don't think you might of heard of them) and it wont work, i dont get any connection at all
[10:54] <glick> is sunbird still being developed?
[10:54] <bluefusionxl> Jose, what do you mean?
[10:54] <steveire> Is there a way to make all users on the computer appear as a choice in the login screen?
[10:54] <greg> how much ram should i have for ubuntu desktop?
[10:54] <sKuarecircle> bluefusionxl: I recall that they were indeed still working on it, read it somewhere
[10:54] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, try: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:54] <linuchsan> ucordes:where is your windows partition?
[10:55] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, could you !pastebin your sources.lst ?
[10:55] <sKuarecircle> greg: use a gig on mine but i must be honest it is still quite slow by all apearnces
[10:55] <linuchsan> ucordes:is it a ata or sata drive?
[10:55] <ChrisCox> covOPprometheus, it wont let me do private messages
[10:55] <angel12> guys i need some help with dapper and my tablet pc. i have it installed, and the first thing i need working is my wireless lan. its an atmel chip, and i can see my ap and everything, i just cant get an IP from my router. my other laptop and desktop (desktop is using atmel card also) work fine with dapper and wireless. any ideas?
[10:55] <Uriku> hmm... I'm trying to exract this gz file, and it gives me an error messege
[10:55] <Uriku> gzip: /tmp/fr-PXyz2y/UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file
[10:56] <greg> im usin vmserver to use ubuntu in xp i hav it set to 128 but i hav 768
[10:56] <Uriku> as you can see it's a demo for UT2004
[10:56] <bluefusionxl> Jose, I am trying that command.  Yes, I can.
[10:56] <ucordes> linuchsan: /dev/hda3
[10:56] <hlabs> can some one please help me
[10:56] <covOPprometheus> ChrisCox, ok, you would have to register, but tell me, is the device recognized?
[10:56] <clearzen> danger have you tryed logging on as root......or have you gained access.
[10:56] <sKuarecircle> hlabs ask the quesation my man, don'r askk to as a Q
[10:56] <ChrisCox> covOPprometheus, it didnt show it on the terminal
[10:57] <hlabs> i need to share a folder in ubuntu. That i can map onto my win pc
[10:57] <TheReconHunter> josestefan, im getting the same internet problems with windows xp- you say its from the router
[10:57] <TheReconHunter> ?
[10:57] <scuzzo> hello
[10:57] <bluefusionxl> Is there a way to copy everything in a file with nano?  Or select stuff fast?
[10:57] <Brett> I have just downloaded a copy of 6.06lts, and I have problems with the installer.. as I have a Geforce 6600GS (SLI on one card), I can not use X till i have the nvidia drivers installed, is there a way i can install 6.06lts in text mode???
[10:57] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter, is WinXP also missing the DNS setting?
[10:57] <scuzzo> hello, I am having trouble with my wifi card wpc11 version 3 not showing up under ifconfig or lspci
[10:57] <scuzzo> it says in the wiki page that its even supported out of the box
[10:57] <TheReconHunter> i didnt know how to config it
[10:57] <DangerousK> okay i changed the password on the hayashi account
[10:57] <DangerousK> maybe that'll work
[10:58] <erUSUL> bluefusionxl: use a more powerfull editor like emacs ;) (some will recomend 'vi' do not listen to them XD)
[10:58] <Uriku> >_> anyone can help me with the gz file? it should work, a lot of people download it
[10:58] <clearzen> if not I know a few other tricks we could try
[10:58] <Ecnassianer> Hi
[10:58] <lens> I am using wine and I'm trying to use this program called "Billy 4.1"... anyways, I uninstalled it... and now everytime I try to open the .exe file it says either repair or remove... I've tried so many things... where should I look for that residual data so I can do a fresh install?
[10:58] <ChrisCox> Am i registered yet?
[10:58] <JoseStefan> TheReconHunter, the details page, on the status windows should state DNS servers (WinXP)
[10:58] <hlabs> i try to connect my windows pc the the shared folder of the ubuntu pc. But the window pops up and says enter uid and pass. I cannot access the folder even if the credentials are rite
[10:58] <oferw> still have problems with the connection to the internet after first install and updating the system - the internet is not connecting
[10:58] <voici> hey, where can i set global environment vars for all users like PS1? i tried (like described in the wiki) to create /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90environment but it didn't change my prompt in X
[10:58] <ucordes> linuchsan: /dev/hda3 ....
[10:58] <sKuarecircle> Guys what to I type to install xmms, I know i should type something in the terminal but i don't remeber what
[10:59] <linuchsan> ucordes:ok
[10:59] <Ecnassianer> I'm switching from Debian Unstable to Dapper Drake this afternoon. Does anybody have any tips or advice before I begin the process?
[10:59] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to convert AVI to WMV...thanx
[10:59] <TheReconHunter> Does anyone know how to make a ntfs partiton acessable with ubuntu?
[10:59] <Pulshion> TheReconHunter -- mount it
[10:59] <TheReconHunter> how?
[10:59] <JoseStefan> !tell TheReconHunter about ntfs
[10:59] <cherubiel> ucordes: title Windows
[10:59] <cherubiel> rootnoverify (hd0,2)
[10:59] <cherubiel> makeactive
[10:59] <cherubiel> chainloader +1
[11:00] <DangerousK> hey tj
[11:00] <DangerousK> get me a sammich
[11:00] <DangerousK> :P
[11:00] <Uriku> lies! all lies! VI pwns :P
[11:00] <brendonjt> kia ora all
[11:00] <linuchsan> ucordes:look what cherubiel said
[11:01] <eamonn> sKuarecircle, type sudo apt-get install xmms
[11:01] <Pulshion> TheReconHunter -- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[11:01] <ucordes> wow, what a service :-) i will try this out. one more question: could it be that i removed windows bootloader by reinstalling grub so it wont boot when i select my new entry?
[11:01] <angelaki> how i can open a port in my linux??
[11:01] <scuzzo> what do you do if your wireless card doesnt even show up on lspci?
[11:01] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to convert AVI to WMV...thanx
[11:01] <freesun> anyone knows how to enable kernel modules? so I can load some modules?
[11:02] <linuchsan> ucordes:no
[11:02] <angelaki> how i can open a port in my linux??
[11:02] <ucordes> ok
[11:02] <ucordes> linuchsan, cherubiel: thank you guys. i will return if this wont work. otherwise have a good time
[11:02] <Rafa_brz> hi folks!
[11:03] <DangerousK> clearzen, still got nothing
[11:03] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to convert AVI to WMV...thanx
[11:03] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, could add the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin ?
[11:03] <clearzen> try sudo oem-configure-prepare
[11:03] <clearzen> and then restart
[11:03] <ucordes> cherubiel: don't i have to add the line boot under the new entry?
[11:03] <Brett> is there any way of installing ubuntu via text mode, not via Xorg????
[11:03] <DangerousK> in recovery clearzen?
[11:03] <sKuarecircle> thanks eamonn
[11:03] <clearzen> I would use the recovery console
[11:04] <sc0tch> With tightvncserver running and connecting with vncviewer on an XP box, the fonts are really really small. Is there a configuration change to fix that? on the server or client? (i see no options on the vncviewer app)
[11:04] <cherubiel> yep
[11:04] <ucordes> k
[11:04] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to convert AVI to WMV...thanx
[11:04] <clearzen> if this dosen't work I'll tell you how to edit /etc/shadow
[11:04] <Popher> why would you want to?
[11:04] <scuzzo> is this a joke
[11:04] <finalbeta> Just upgraded vmware server. It keeps the old product date, so it sais it's expired. Was this product not supossed to be free?
[11:04] <scuzzo> whats with these stupid ass questions here
[11:04] <TheReconHunter> how do i add a shortcut to a folder to the desktop
[11:05] <clearzen> at least I think that is where they store password hashes in ubuntu
[11:05] <scuzzo> TheReconHunter: are you retarded?
[11:05] <clearzen> i'll check
[11:05] <TheReconHunter> scuzzo, it wont let me
[11:05] <sKuarecircle> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:05] <sKuarecircle> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:05] <finalbeta> scuzzo, go away.
[11:05] <sKuarecircle> garth@garth-desktop:~$
[11:05] <mookid> hmmm I've got no sound on totem with my xvid/divx movies :(
[11:05] <crocd> finalbeta: you need to register for the new one again. I had that a couple of weeks ago
[11:05] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to convert AVI to WMV...thanx
[11:05] <TheReconHunter> its the shortcut to one ofmy partitons
[11:05] <sKuarecircle> now what?
[11:05] <Popher> Pul: why would you want to?
[11:05] <finalbeta> crocd, I did, got about a 100 keys, license is fine, product version is "outdated"
[11:05] <Pulshion> Popher -- mp3 player
[11:05] <bluefusionxl> Jose: ok that damn apt-get -f install tried to remvoe my kernel..  That was wierd um here's my paste : http://pastebin.ca/160092
[11:06] <scuzzo> anyone know how to turn on computer!
[11:06] <scuzzo> how do I get the internets on my computer?
[11:06] <JoseStefan> sKuarecircle, did you add sudo?
[11:06] <crocd> finalbeta: strange
[11:06] <Brett> scuzzo, get a life :P
[11:06] <Popher> Pul: your mp3 player should have given you the software to do that, but if not, use Windows Movie Maker
[11:06] <angelaki> how i can open a port in my linux??
[11:06] <Corporal_Dirge> scuzzo, FAIL
[11:06] <Popher> if you dont have windows, i cant help
[11:06] <scuzzo> Brett: do people usually ask dumb questions here
[11:06] <Pulshion> Popher -- ummm...im on linux?
[11:06] <Popher> im a newb to linux
[11:06] <Gollum> how do i fix speedstep_centrino module that is missing?
[11:06] <bluefusionxl> scuzzo, you go to the doctor and tell  him that your experiencing lack of mind and he will give you some medicine that will help
[11:07] <bluefusionxl> Jose: ok that damn apt-get -f install tried to remvoe my kernel..  That was wierd um here's my paste : http://pastebin.ca/160092
[11:07] <Popher> Pul: search for software
[11:07] <Popher> ?
[11:07] <Brett> scuzzo, yep i know that :P... hell i am pro9b asking a dumb one.. I do know nix... but this is getting me mad now... lol
[11:07] <eamonn> sKuarecirlce, do you also have synaptic open? Close it.
[11:07] <JoseStefan> how do i stop ubuntu from drinking all my liquor ?
[11:07] <caseyomah> How do I stop Deskbar's Actions from stealing focus from Deskbar?
[11:07] <Corporal_Dirge> Linux, Serious Business.
[11:07] <bluefusionxl> ok that damn apt-get -f install tried to remvoe my kernel..  That was wierd um here's my paste : http://pastebin.ca/160092
[11:07] <greg> #ubuntu-0fftopic
[11:07] <Pulshion> Popher -- there is one soft i think it comes with mplayer but i forgot the name
[11:07] <TheReconHunter> Does anyone know how to make a shortcut to a partition on the desktop?
[11:07] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to convert AVI to WMV...thanx
[11:07] <sKuarecircle> Shot eamonn thats exactly what the problewm was
[11:08] <scuzzo> Pulshion: yea use windows it will work
[11:08] <Pulshion> TheReconHunter -- if its mounted it does it by itself
[11:08] <DangerousK> hey clearzen
[11:08] <Pulshion> scuzzo -- i dont have windows
[11:08] <DangerousK> is it true that ubuntu as a user name wont work?
[11:08] <TheReconHunter> hmm, its not doing it
[11:08] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, are you using hoary or dapper?
[11:08] <Corporal_Dirge> Pulshion, Ask a windows channel.
[11:08] <bluefusionxl> hoary
[11:08] <scuzzo> Pulshion: well try killing yourself first
[11:08] <clearzen> I don't think it will but I've never tried it either
[11:08] <Pulshion> scuzzo -- try shutting up?
[11:08] <bluefusionxl> Jose, hoary
[11:08] <scuzzo> Pulshion: use mencoder
[11:09] <eamonn> DangerousK, I dunno. Try it and tell us what happens.
[11:09] <ubuntu> hi room
[11:09] <DangerousK> i will
[11:09] <Pulshion> scuzzo -- yea thats it
[11:09] <ubuntu> got a question
[11:09] <Pulshion> scuzzo -- thanx
[11:09] <bluefusionxl> hi room
[11:09] <ubuntu> when i try to login via login screen
[11:09] <caseyomah> DangerousK, the LiveCD's username is ubuntu, so, no, it's not true. It will work.
[11:09] <scuzzo> Pulshion: you shouldnt be actually using a computer
[11:09] <clearzen> did the last command work for you?
[11:09] <ubuntu> it returns back to the login screen
[11:09] <Pulshion> scuzzo -- no way?
[11:09] <Pulshion> scuzzo -- why?
[11:09] <scuzzo> Pulshion: you seem like a threat to a computer
[11:09] <freesun> pulshion: afaik WMV is closed format and recently M$ lost at court and have to make WMV and WMA standard avaible for all and then we might get to play WMV in RealPlayer, (maybe mplayer) but it will take some time
[11:10] <Pulshion> scuzzo -- did i do something wrong?
[11:10] <TheReconHunter> dont listen to him
[11:10] <scuzzo> Pulshion: im just joking peace
[11:10] <bluefusionxl> ubuntu, maybe an account got deleted
[11:10] <TheReconHunter> he is just an %%%hole
[11:10] <bluefusionxl> Jose can you help me?
[11:10] <freesun> pulshion: and even make it
[11:10] <Pulshion> scuzzo -- so am i haha
[11:10] <ubuntu> bluefusionxl: no account is there
[11:10] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, i'm thinking
[11:10] <wasabi_> freesun: That thing about WMV. Where did you get that from?
[11:10] <Pulshion> freesun -- oh sweet
[11:10] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, lets start with a repository update: sudo apt-get update
[11:10] <Otacon22> can be possibile to make a clustering without modify kernel?
[11:10] <ubuntu> bluefusionxl:  any other ideaas?
[11:11] <covOPprometheus> the cdrom is listed as hdb but it doesn't appear in dev, what should I do?
[11:11] <ubuntu> covOPprometheus:  chked fstab?
[11:11] <DangerousK> clearzen
[11:11] <Pulshion> freesun -- my mp3 player doesnt want to read avi, cause im using gnomad not WMP
[11:11] <DangerousK> i tried sudo oem-configure-prepare
[11:11] <DangerousK> it says command doesnt work
[11:11] <clearzen> sup danger
[11:12] <clearzen> *sigh* ok
[11:12] <DangerousK> im sorry man
[11:12] <linuchsan> angelaki:iptables?
[11:12] <DangerousK> maybe i should just try on another day
[11:12] <clearzen> type nano /etc/shadow
[11:12] <TheReconHunter> I need help with wireless capabilities.
[11:12] <DangerousK> got it
[11:12] <clearzen> actually first type su then enter
[11:12] <bluefusionxl> ok done Jose, but it still says the following errors when i try to install things
[11:12] <sKuarecircle> hey guys for those of you that care , Xmms plays (I got it installed) Mpo3's why doesn't rythmbox
[11:13] <DangerousK> okay now im in nano
[11:13] <bluefusionxl> i did apt-get install just now with sudo
[11:13] <wasabi_> sKuarecircle: Because you need to install mp3 support for Gstramer.
[11:13] <DangerousK> okay typed in su
[11:13] <clearzen> enter the unix pass you made
[11:13] <sKuarecircle> wasabi how do i do that?
[11:13] <TheReconHunter> Now, i used the utility that lets you get windows drivers for wireless cards
[11:13] <MrFeetio> can someone point me in the right direction for installing the latest Gnome and GTK?
[11:13] <Nizo> hi is there anyone who can help me with wifi?
[11:13] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, you shouldnt try to install anything until you solve the dependecy issues
[11:13] <TheReconHunter> but my card still isnt working,
[11:13] <clearzen> with the sudo passwd root command
[11:13] <DangerousK> right next to the SU? or below it
[11:13] <wasabi_> I forget. Either gstreamer0.8-mad or gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[11:13] <TheReconHunter> it takes next to forever to activate it in networking
[11:13] <TheReconHunter> but
[11:13] <clearzen> after you hit enter it should prompt for it
[11:14] <TheReconHunter> it just reverts to not active
[11:14] <bluefusionxl> Jose, okay.  What should I do?
[11:14] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, try adding multiverse and universe to your repos
[11:14] <DangerousK> no prompt
[11:14] <sKuarecircle> do i typre sudo apt install yada yada yada
[11:14] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, then run the update command again
[11:14] <bluefusionxl> what should I add in code?  You got a link to what it should look like?
[11:14] <TheReconHunter> I installed the .inf
[11:14] <clearzen> just type in the password and hit enter
[11:14] <clearzen> tell me what happens
[11:14] <TheReconHunter> and it says hardware is present
[11:14] <ubuntu> no1?
[11:14] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, nevermind, you already have those
[11:14] <bluefusionxl> what should I put in my sources.list
[11:15] <TheReconHunter> any ideas?
[11:15] <bluefusionxl> Okay, what is your suggestion then?
[11:15] <bluefusionxl> Jose
[11:15] <DangerousK> nothing happened clearzen
[11:15] <DangerousK> i typed in su
[11:15] <DangerousK> then my password
[11:15] <DangerousK> and nothing
[11:15] <ubuntu> bluefusionxl:  what r u trying to do?
[11:15] <clearzen> type telinit 1
[11:15] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, let me check some packages
[11:15] <firippu> Why would i'd get "Fatal error: Call to undefined function:  mysql_connect()" with my php scripts on dapper, when sudo apt-get install php4-mysql says the package is already the newest version?
[11:15] <clearzen> and hit enter
[11:16] <steveire> what's that gtksudo command?
[11:16] <ubuntu> steveire:  gksu
[11:16] <sKuarecircle> rite a more serious question, I can't mount my windows volumes, i tried a suggestion in a forum but can't get it done, can someone guide me?
[11:16] <DangerousK> i think im the wrong area clearzen
[11:16] <steveire> thanks
[11:16] <DangerousK> on the top it says
[11:16] <erUSUL> firippu: becouse you are using php5 ?? (just guessing)
[11:16] <DangerousK> GNU Nano
[11:16] <Popher> oh crap... i have one HDD in my PC... it is NTFS with 16GB free. I want to keep the files, and use part of that drive for Ubuntu (currently XP)... can i repartition without formatting the drive or loosing files?
[11:16] <clearzen> ohhhh sorry
[11:16] <DangerousK> file etc.shadow, modified
[11:16] <steveire> actually gksudo I think.
[11:16] <firippu> nope PHP 4.4.2-1build1 (cli)
[11:17] <bluefusionxl> Jose, okay.  flip, I suggest you compile php from source.
[11:17] <clearzen> DON'T SAVE when you exit
[11:17] <ged> is there a way to rebuild a single kernel module of the running kernel?
[11:17] <firippu> that was a decent guess however. :)
[11:17] <clearzen> it is ctrl+x to exit
[11:17] <ubuntu> steveire:  both will work
[11:17] <bluefusionxl> or see if php.ini has values missing
[11:17] <ubuntu> ;)
[11:17] <ged> or do I have to recompile and replace the whoel thing?
[11:17] <ChrisCox> Can anybody help me with a sparklan WL-311FA?
[11:17] <ged> whole thing
[11:17] <clearzen> it will ask you if you want to save
[11:17] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, did this happen after doing anything specific?
[11:17] <clearzen> press n
[11:17] <covOPprometheus> ubuntu, yep "/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0"
[11:17] <ubuntu> covOPprometheus:  then just mount it there
[11:17] <sKuarecircle> i dont follow
[11:18] <ubuntu> insert cd
[11:18] <DangerousK> clearzen, back to command prompt
[11:18] <ubuntu> type mount /media/cdrom0
[11:18] <clearzen> type su then enter
[11:18] <bluefusionxl> After I added some repositories from ubuntuguide.org list, but then I updated it from my backup after that happened and then from source o matic and it still does it.
[11:18] <clearzen> and then the unix password you made
[11:18] <sKuarecircle> ubuntu you aren't talking to me are you?
[11:19] <bluefusionxl> I made mistakes and added repositories for dapper, but i took those off and it still
[11:19] <covOPprometheus> ubuntu, root@leone:~# mount /media/cdrom0
[11:19] <covOPprometheus> mount: special device /dev/hdb does not exist
[11:19] <bluefusionxl> does it
[11:19] <firippu> I have extension=mysql.so in my /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini file but I am unsure if the CLI installation uses a different php.ini
[11:19] <ubuntu> sKuarecircle: nope
[11:19] <filipf> hi everyone
[11:19] <ubuntu> covOPprometheus:  yep
[11:19] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, you have mixed packages installed
[11:19] <DangerousK> clearzen, i typed in su
[11:19] <ged> btw, who do I bug or where do I request that this vt8237a patch (http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/8/11/196) get applied to the next kernel release?
[11:19] <sKuarecircle> Should I be abl;e to see my windows partitions?
[11:19] <DangerousK> just repeated the command line
[11:19] <bluefusionxl> typle locate php.ini in bash
[11:19] <bluefusionxl> Jose, what do I need to do about that?
[11:19] <DangerousK> or do i type in SU then the password
[11:20] <clearzen> did it ask for a password after?
[11:20] <DangerousK> no
[11:20] <DangerousK> i typed in SU
[11:20] <covOPprometheus> ubuntu, special device /dev/hdb does not exist
[11:20] <clearzen> it needs to be lower case
[11:20] <DangerousK> and it just came back to root@ubuntu
[11:20] <filipf> could anyone please help me with RAID-1 setup?
[11:20] <clearzen> cool
[11:20] <clearzen> type nano /etc/shadow
[11:20] <Digital> hello everyone
[11:20] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, you will have to remove the packages with problems and reinstall them
[11:21] <ubuntu> covOPprometheus:  type ls -l /dev
[11:21] <clearzen> it will bring you into the shadow file
[11:21] <ubuntu> do u see hdb there?
[11:21] <DangerousK> rigt
[11:21] <DangerousK> what do i do in the shadow file?
[11:21] <linuchsan> DangerousK:again...type whoami
[11:21] <godfather_> g' night guys
[11:21] <clearzen> the semi colon --->; that symbols stands for the end of a command
[11:21] <Digital> could anyone tell me how to run my windows programs on linux - I have wine, but havn't a clue what's next...
[11:21] <DangerousK> whoami while in in the shadow?
[11:21] <clearzen> you are root
[11:21] <ubuntu> Digital:  winelauncher filename.exe
[11:22] <godfather_> guys
[11:22] <DangerousK> yeah
[11:22] <DangerousK> it says root
[11:22] <DangerousK> after i type in whoami in the root
[11:22] <clearzen> The second line or command should be your password hash
[11:22] <bluefusionxl> jose, it says the same message when i try to remove it.
[11:22] <mkquist_> anyone here good w/network problems?
[11:22] <TheReconHunter> is there any way ot tell if my wireless card is working or not>
[11:22] <godfather_> i tried toinstall real player by synaptic
[11:22] <covOPprometheus> ubuntu, and what should I look for? it's enormous
[11:22] <Discipulus> What's the advantage to running beta over stable?
[11:22] <ubuntu> covOPprometheus:  file/device name hdb
[11:22] <godfather_> but there's a library that i can't find and install
[11:22] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, join #bluefusionxl
[11:22] <clearzen> delete this line for your username. Which should be the first line
[11:22] <Digital> ok, I'm trying to test it out with windows sol and it won't launch...?
[11:22] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter:  iwconfig
[11:22] <godfather_> couldanyone tell me how resolve it
[11:23] <mkquist_> got a machine that loses connectivity then gets it back for i dont know what reason?
[11:23] <clearzen> and leave "" double quotations in it's place
[11:23] <sKuarecircle> can't see my windows partitions, I thought I would be able to?
[11:23] <ubuntu> Digital:  error?
[11:23] <TheReconHunter> alright
[11:23] <TheReconHunter> i just did iwconfig
[11:23] <DangerousK> do i type whoami while im in the shadow or while im in root?
[11:23] <erUSUL> !ntfs > sKuarecircle
[11:23] <Digital> module not found
[11:23] <TheReconHunter> and though it is there
[11:23] <longwave> mkquist_: wired or wireless? if wired, have you ruled out bad cable/switch/switch port?
[11:23] <TheReconHunter> im having trouble configuring it to work
[11:23] <sKuarecircle> erUSAl: what do yoiu mean?
[11:24] <covOPprometheus> ubuntu, no it's not
[11:24] <Xenguy> DangerousK: at the prompt
[11:24] <clearzen> no
[11:24] <mkquist_> wire, and it connects in xp just fine
[11:24] <Digital> I'm running dual boot xp, ubuntu on a different drive... is that the issue?
[11:24] <clearzen> it is not needed
[11:24] <DangerousK> okay
[11:24] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter:  what trbl?
[11:24] <DangerousK> so i got into the shadow
[11:24] <DangerousK> then what?
[11:24] <mowgli> hi, all! new-to-Linux here. Do I need DNS server to setup a home network in the Windows way (cross-wired Ethernet cables) for internet connection share? and does DNS server conflict with DHCP server?
[11:24] <ubuntu> Digital:  nope
[11:24] <sKuarecircle> Digital, thats what i am doing but can't see windows volumes
[11:24] <longwave> mkquist_: what card? do you know what driver you are using? are there any messages in "dmesg" when the network goes down/up?
[11:24] <ubuntu> covOPprometheus:  want me to send it?
[11:24] <clearzen> then ctrl+x and y when prompted to save and save it over the old file
[11:24] <TheReconHunter> Well, I cant activate the card
[11:24] <ubuntu__> i wish i could get my screen refresh rate right, the x11 config is too technical for me
[11:24] <Digital> I've got my windows volumes mounted, I can see them on my desktop
[11:25] <TheReconHunter> Although i used ndiswrapper and got the correct drivers
[11:25] <Rafa_brz> How can I change the grub OS default?
[11:25] <mkquist_> longwave - its an onboard nforce, and im not familiar w/dmesg
[11:25] <covOPprometheus> ubuntu, send what?
[11:25] <longwave> mowgli: dns and dhcp servers are different things, you can run both at once
[11:25] <CharonX> Anyone know how to change the keyboard controls so the volume controls on the keyboard adjust the PCM instead of the master ?
[11:25] <ubuntu> covOPprometheus:  /dev/hdb
[11:25] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter:  try iwconfig   up
[11:25] <covOPprometheus> ubuntu, might be worth a try
[11:25] <linuchsan> Rafa_brz: in /boot/grub/menu.lst default =
[11:25] <longwave> mkquist_: just type "dmesg" at a prompt, if there are any messages about eth0 or network devices you could put them in a pastebin so we can see them
[11:25] <cliffd> stupid question. can I use .deb pkgs with out problem? or debian packages?
[11:25] <mkquist_> longwave - but i have pci nics that do the same
[11:25] <Naik0> how can i dissable ssh
[11:26] <clearzen> one sec danger
[11:26] <ubuntu> covOPprometheus:  where should i mail it?
[11:26] <sKuarecircle> ???
[11:26] <TheReconHunter> wait, type iwconfig up in terminal?
[11:26] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter:  yes
[11:26] <longwave> Naik0: "sudo apt-get remove openssh-server" will remove sshd if you don't want it
[11:26] <Naik0> thanks longway
[11:26] <TheReconHunter> it says up- no such device
[11:26] <Rafa_brz> linuchsan: just change & save?
[11:26] <Naik0> longwave
[11:26] <godfather_> guys i tried to listen internet radio
[11:26] <Digital> is there a graphical version of wine at all?
[11:26] <ChrisCox> Does anybody have expeirience in setting up SparkLAN WL-311FA network cards on dapper?
[11:26] <mowgli> longwave: thx. which one do i need for the windows share connection, DHCP or DNS?
[11:26] <mkquist_> longwave - thats a looonnnng list
[11:27] <Digital> or a way to boot xp inside of ubuntu?
[11:27] <mkquist_> longwave- the whole thing or just recent?
[11:27] <sKuarecircle> Godfather how much bandwith does listining to the radio use?
[11:27] <longwave> mkquist_: so all these nics work perfectly in xp but none of them properly in linux?
[11:27] <godfather_> but totem doesm't work...so how can i change the default media player?
[11:27] <linuchsan> Naik0: if you don't whan to remove it, update-rc.d -f ssh remove
[11:27] <godfather_> i don't know
[11:27] <longwave> mkquist_: things towards the end, especially if they mention ethernet devices
[11:27] <TheReconHunter> any idea what is wrong ubuntu?
[11:27] <godfather_> i'm trying to listen bbc radio
[11:27] <Naik0> thanks linuchsan
[11:27] <longwave> mowgli: sorry i dont know about windows connection sharing
[11:27] <mkquist_> longwaver- right, but somtimes in ubuntu they work fine
[11:27] <finalbeta> gnome really needs something like the configuration center found in kde distributions. Al these individual windows that only do half of what they need to :/
[11:28] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter: let me chk
[11:28] <TheReconHunter> Sure
[11:28] <Discipulus> What's the advantage to running beta over stable?
[11:28] <godfather_> with real palyre under windows there's no problwm
[11:28] <longwave> mkquist_: if they are different chipsets on the nics it's strange that they both show problems
[11:28] <godfather_> but i can'tinstall real player under linux
[11:28] <finalbeta> Discipulus, none, beta means not finished, mostly has al features, but ain't stable
[11:28] <sKuarecircle> don't want to whine but i got disconnected, should I be able to see my windows volumes from Ubuntu, I was lead to believe you can
[11:28] <godfather_> ..totem doesn't work
[11:29] <lostinc> Is there a way to encrypt a folder with a password for transport on either a laptop or USB drive?
[11:29] <longwave> !ntfs > sKuarecircle
[11:29] <Digital> sKuarecircle, you have to mount them
[11:29] <TheReconHunter> @godfather, you can install realplayer
[11:29] <TheReconHunter> in linux
[11:29] <TheReconHunter> www.getautomatix.com
[11:29] <finalbeta> lostinc, I know truecrypt can do this. But there are other ways
[11:29] <DangerousK> clearzen, are you out there buddy
[11:29] <DangerousK> im back in the shadow file
[11:29] <finalbeta> the advantage of truecrypt is it runs on linux /windows
[11:29] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter:  try ifup wlan0
[11:30] <Naik0> Someone know if i can show information of my website trought mysql db?
[11:30] <longwave> lostinc: you could use zip or rar with a password too
[11:30] <TheReconHunter> ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate:permission denied
[11:30] <TheReconHunter> should i sudo it?
[11:30] <lostinc> I have a user database that I would like to be able to take home on the laptop but want encrypted in case it has an accident like gets stolem
[11:30] <longwave> TheReconHunter: yes, use sudo
[11:30] <ubuntu> type that as root
[11:30] <ubuntu> yep
[11:30] <ubuntu> sudo it
[11:30] <mkquist_> longwave - is this a possibel pci problem? cause sound seems to go to, and theres a fair bit about pci irq being dissabled..
[11:30] <TheReconHunter> aight
[11:30] <TheReconHunter> still errors
[11:30] <longwave> mkquist_: yes, thats what i was thinking
[11:30] <TheReconHunter> ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device
[11:31] <TheReconHunter> my wireless card is labedeld as eth1
[11:31] <ubuntu> ur wifi card is being detected?
[11:31] <longwave> mkquist_: there may be an option in your bios to let the OS or the BIOS handle irqs, try toggling that and see if that helps
[11:31] <bluefox83> does the ubuntu live cd allowo someone to ssh in and use root ?
[11:31] <bluefox83> *allow
[11:31] <UKMatt> does anyone know a good .iso burner
[11:31] <sKuarecircle> Ubotu thanks dude
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks dude - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <TheReconHunter> yes, but it cannot be activated
[11:31] <SirKillalot> how can I easily delete rules from iptables?
[11:31] <mkquist_> longwaver -k lemme see
[11:31] <ubuntu> UKMatt:  k3b
[11:31] <linuchsan> lostinc:man gpg
[11:31] <DangerousK> i use nero
[11:31] <TheReconHunter> it says interface eth1 already configured
[11:32] <TheReconHunter> but i downloaded a network utility and still i have problems
[11:32] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter:  as root type network-admin
[11:32] <erUSUL> UKMatt: i just right click in the iso from nautilus and choose burn to disc ...
[11:32] <trainer> when will I be able to install gnucash 2.0 from a package repository through synaptic, instead of building from source like this guy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222221
[11:32] <TheReconHunter> okay
[11:32] <TheReconHunter> im there
[11:32] <UKMatt> erusul, will that burn as an image?
[11:32] <lostinc> linuchsan what do you mean 'man gpg' ??
[11:32] <ubuntu> u see ur wifi there?
[11:32] <TheReconHunter> aye
[11:32] <erUSUL> UKMatt: yes
[11:32] <TheReconHunter> it says not active
[11:33] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter:  activate it
[11:33] <longwave> lostinc: "gpg" can also be used to encrypt things, though it is a bit more complex than say zipping up a folder with a password
[11:33] <lostinc> I see.
[11:33] <linuchsan> lostinc:I have a user database that I would like to be able to take home on the laptop but want encrypted.....
[11:33] <TheReconHunter> ive tried- it takes an usually long time
[11:33] <UKMatt> Awesome, I'm taking the plunge and going from an XP/Dapper to Edgy/XP
[11:33] <TheReconHunter> adn then when i press okay, it just reverts to not being activated
[11:33] <lostinc> Where do I start to read about it? I have heard about it for email but not for files or filesystems
[11:33] <mkquist_> longwave - right now its set to auto in bios, other option is of course manual, but would i have to set them or just give it go like that?
[11:33] <longwave> mkquist_: try "manual" and see what happens, the worst that will happen is you have to switch it back again
[11:34] <longwave> mkquist_: sometimes these bios options have confusing names, manual may mean "let the OS handle irq selection"
[11:34] <TheReconHunter> **what is the command to download qtpartitioner
[11:34] <mkquist_> longwave - true...
[11:34] <TheReconHunter> okay ubuntu, it just finished activating
[11:34] <TheReconHunter> now what
[11:34] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter:  apt-get install qtparted
[11:34] <TheReconHunter> aight
[11:35] <DangerousK> man i hate all you guys who know how to use the kernel throughly
[11:35] <DangerousK>  lol
[11:35] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter:  if it is activated, net should be up
[11:35] <DangerousK> im kidding, i just wish i had a better idea of what im doing
[11:35] <TheReconHunter> let me see
[11:35] <firippu> Alright i've posted what is going on at with my php and mysql installation at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22469, dooes someone know what i do wrong?
[11:35] <TheReconHunter> when i press okay
[11:35] <TheReconHunter> it freezes
[11:35] <TheReconHunter> and just stays there for a long while
[11:35] <TheReconHunter> then deactivates
[11:35] <ubuntu> oh
[11:35] <ubuntu> dang
[11:35] <ubuntu> brb
[11:35] <TheReconHunter> dang indeed
[11:35] <longwave> mkquist_: i have seen problems before with nforce onboard nics in linux but usually replacing them with a good pci card fixes it
[11:35] <lostinc> how do I upgrade to Edgy Eft?
[11:36] <ubuntu> back
[11:36] <ubuntu> so it again deactivates?
[11:36] <brian98> weird one for ya
[11:36] <brian98> have two seperate desktops
[11:36] <longwave> lostinc: change "dapper" to "edgy" in /etc/apt/sources.list then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" - though make a backup of anything important first!
[11:36] <Xenguy> lostinc: I thought it was still alpha ?
[11:36] <brian98> dual head
[11:36] <mkquist_> longwave - well ive tried that, had to, to get system updated initially, but then seemed like the onboard was fine,
[11:36] <TheReconHunter> yes
[11:36] <brian98> but I can only run firefox on one
[11:36] <brian98> if I try to load it on the other
[11:37] <mkquist_> longwave - but its intermittent at best now
[11:37] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter: may be u need to try ndiswrappers
[11:37] <TheReconHunter> it deactivates
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> nixternal: can I ask you a quick question about konversation and how I shoould add irc.oftc.net server?
[11:37] <TheReconHunter> Ubuntu, im already using it
[11:37] <lostinc> What advantage is there to upgrading anyways? A new set of themes or something signifigant
[11:37] <linuchsan> firippu: what is in /etc/php4?
[11:37] <brian98> it tells me that firefox is already running but is not responding
[11:37] <mainer> lostinc: i'd suggest aptitude for dist-upgrade,handles dependencys better
[11:37] <longwave> lostinc: edgy will have a bunch of new features but if you aren't confident about fixing things if and when they break, i would stick to dapper for now
[11:37] <mkquist_> longwave - no good, still not connecting at all
[11:37] <ubuntu> TheReconHunter:  no idea then
[11:37] <ubuntu> sorry
[11:38] <TheReconHunter> crap
[11:38] <TheReconHunter> o well
[11:38] <longwave> mkquist_: are there still messages about IRQs in the "dmesg" output?
[11:38] <ubuntu> sorry
[11:38] <ubuntu> :(
[11:38] <TheReconHunter> lol
[11:38] <TheReconHunter> whateve
[11:38] <TheReconHunter> r
[11:38] <ubuntu> any1 there to help me?
[11:38] <lostinc> Im not bad with it but I frankly dont want to play OS doctor each time I open a text editor either
[11:38] <firippu> hah linuchsan thanks.  I fixed it,  by pointing that out i realize i've edited the apache php.ini and not the cli ini :) thanks you
[11:38] <longwave> linuchsan: the php4 config for the various php4 versions
[11:39] <longwave> oh sorry that wasnt what you asked!
[11:39] <ShoeUnited> nurse? ctrl-x stat!
[11:39] <ubuntu> any1 plz help
[11:39] <mkquist_> longwave- lemme look, do the messages reset on every session there?
[11:39] <lostinc> What is the question ubuntu?
[11:39] <clearzen> i'm still here dangerous
[11:40] <linuchsan> longwave:no it was for firippu
[11:40] <ubuntu> lostinc: when i try to login , the login screen comes back
[11:40] <ubuntu> i'm not able to enter desktop
[11:40] <longwave> mkquist_: yes, at the top you will see all the boot messages, further down are any important kernel messages reported since then
[11:40] <filipf> does enyone know how to setup a raid-1 array?
[11:40] <clearzen> are you still there Dangerousk
[11:41] <lostinc> Stupid question ubuntu but have you created an alternate root and non-root user and attempted to log in with them?
[11:41] <godfather_> guys finally i get the goal
[11:41] <DangerousK> i have to go everyone
[11:41] <DangerousK> but i wont give up
[11:41] <ubuntu> lostinc:  yes i have
[11:41] <godfather_> i had to transform rpm file with alien in .deb file
[11:41] <DangerousK> i want to run linux
[11:41] <ubuntu> and i'm able too
[11:41] <clearzen> just restart it should work
[11:41] <DangerousK> clearzen, thank you man.
[11:41] <DangerousK> i will come back soon and we will try again
[11:41] <godfather_> so i installed realplayer
[11:41] <DangerousK> viva linux!
[11:41] <clearzen> no problem peace
[11:41] <firippu> I had made a noob mistake /hide my face
[11:41] <godfather_> but the question is where hell is it?
[11:42] <ubuntu> godfather_:  it s in /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:42] <lostinc> Have you attempted to log into an alternate console not using the GUI I assume something like the GDM is what you are using
[11:42] <mkquist_> longwave - could this be an ACPI thing, i believe I have that dissabled in bios?
[11:42] <ubuntu> lostinc:  i can use cli
[11:43] <ubuntu> just not GUI
[11:43] <lostinc> So you can log into the system but cant get X up?
[11:43] <godfather_> ok but how can i put its icon in sound%&video applications
[11:43] <ubuntu> lostinc:  exactly
[11:43] <clearzen> Does anyone know how to change IRQ settings in linux if it is not an option in BIOS?
[11:44] <ubuntu> godfather_: is alien installed?
[11:44] <lostinc> Have you had X running on this machine with an alternate distro or previous version of Ubuntu?
[11:44] <godfather_> yes
[11:44] <godfather_> of course
[11:44] <ubuntu> lostinc:  it worked fine before
[11:44] <godfather_> i downloaded a realplayer rpm file
[11:45] <ubuntu> k
[11:45] <linuchsan> clearzen: try modinfo <module> if it is supported.
[11:45] <godfather_> then by alien i had a deb file
[11:45] <vir--> is this the best channel for edgy help?
[11:45] <lostinc> Before 'WHAT"?
[11:45] <ubuntu> godfather_: in console type alien -di real-file.rpm
[11:45] <godfather_> ok
[11:46] <ubuntu> lostinc: before as in yesterday
[11:46] <linuchsan> firippu: what is in /etc/php4 ?
[11:46] <clearzen> I have a PCMCIA card that is sharing an IRQ with my ethernet controller and if I insert a PCMCIA card it freezes the system. Any suggestions?
[11:46] <ubuntu> yesterday it worked ok
[11:47] <firippu> linuchsan; I have taken care of that part of the situation, i had mistakenly edit apache's php.ini instead of the cli version
[11:47] <mkquist_> longwave - the last thing about eth0 is 'no link during intialization"
[11:47] <linuchsan> firippu: ok
[11:47] <lostinc> ok so you are saying that you made no changes to your system (manually or automatically) since the last successful reboot of the system?
[11:48] <ubuntu> not that i know off
[11:48] <firippu> linuchsan: by asking me about it i rexamined what i'd done thanks :)
[11:48] <linuchsan> clearzen: with what is it sharing it?
[11:48] <lostinc> Do you have Synaptic set up so that it downloads and installs automatic updates? Just wondering.
[11:48] <fuoco> anyone with an ipod knows if it's possible to use the same ipod with both itunes on windows and some app in linux at the same time ?
[11:48] <ubuntu> lostinc: i'll try changing the dm like u said
[11:49] <ubuntu> lostinc: nope
[11:49] <clearzen> IRQ 11 is assgined to both my PCMCIA (yenta) and an ethernet controller
[11:49] <Digital> is there a graphical version of wine anyone?
[11:49] <lostinc> Im really curious Ubuntu whats up cause I have to play with X allot anymore with all the differnet video cards ect
[11:49] <clearzen> If I insert any wireless card it freezes the whole system
[11:49] <ubuntu> lostinc:  man i'm lost too
[11:50] <clearzen> if I am in a terminal session it gives me a kernel bug #
[11:50] <Digital> !wine
[11:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:50] <Digital> ah, the bot is most helpful
[11:50] <M_A_K> Can someone reccomend a webcam and software to use with ubuntu?
[11:51] <NthDegree> M_A_K, Kopete can handle webcams I believe
[11:51] <lostinc> Tell me once you have tried what you were going to try Ubuntu
[11:51] <vir--> i get a X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0 when i try to start x.. (edgy eft).. i checked the forum, found no real answay
[11:51] <ubuntu> amsn can too
[11:51] <godfather_> it doesn't work
[11:51] <NthDegree> and the non-branded webcam i grabbed from argos worked lol
[11:51] <linuchsan> clearzen: have you got an option to change the irq, when you type modinfo your wifi module?
[11:51] <finalbeta> Can I use vmware player to connect to a vmware server?
[11:52] <ubuntu> lostinc:  anyways , thanks
[11:52] <angelaki> who can help me with ssh connection??
[11:52] <NthDegree> finalbeta, VMWare Server is the Client and Server
[11:52] <ubuntu> laters
[11:52] <lostinc> sorry ubuntu
[11:52] <erUSUL> !ssh
[11:52] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:52] <NthDegree> finalbeta, if you have VMWare Server installed on your PC you don't need player
[11:52] <ubuntu> lostinc:  its kool, dont worry bout it :)
[11:52] <finalbeta> NthDegree, I've got the server running on my desktop, I want to use the server on my laptop.
[11:52] <finalbeta> How do I connect from the laptop to the server?
[11:52] <lostinc> hey ubuntu
[11:52] <lupine_85> hmm. anyone have any idea why checkinstall is being held back from upgrading?
[11:52] <lupine_85> or is it just me?
[11:52] <NthDegree> finalbeta, so you want to connect to the server on your desktop?
[11:53] <finalbeta> NthDegree, uhu
[11:53] <lostinc> darn I was about to tell him that I had the same prob and what I did
[11:53] <NthDegree> finalbeta, there's a client on the VMWare site for that
[11:53] <lostinc> oh well
[11:53] <erUSUL> lupine_85: i have see that too (but i thought that it was becouse i added backports)
[11:53] <NthDegree> finalbeta, it's like the console part of the server and you simply say instead of local host you go on remote host
[11:53] <erUSUL> lupine_85: sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[11:53] <clearzen> @NthDegree
[11:53] <clearzen> I do not. I have also tried lspnp (bios-tools) but so far no luck
[11:54] <finalbeta> NthDegree, oki, thnx
[11:54] <looktj> back
[11:54] <NthDegree> ahhh so many people
[11:54] <NthDegree> i'm getting confuzzled now :$
[11:54] <lupine_85> ah, I have backports too, so that might be it
[11:54] <lupine_85> thanks erUSUL
[11:55] <NthDegree> clearzen, what's the issue again?
[11:55] <lupine_85> ah: it wants to remove installwatch... which I've never heard of ;)
[11:55] <looktj> Clearzen: did DangerousK quit?
[11:55] <npster> I want Ubuntu in Macedonian. What should I do ?
[11:56] <erUSUL> npster: System>Admin>Language support
[11:56] <Jp> is u tlkn to me
[11:56] <NthDegree> npster, I believe the ubuntu setup asks for the language you want
[11:56] <clearzen> sorry i meant linuchsan nthdegree
[11:56] <superuserdimitri> does any1 here have woring XGL
[11:56] <Jp> english
[11:56] <angelaki> who can help me with ssh connection??
[11:56] <erUSUL> !xgl > superuserdimitri
[11:56] <NthDegree> clearzen no problem :)
[11:56] <npster> OK. Tanks.
[11:56] <Jp> idk
[11:57] <erUSUL> superuserdimitri: try in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:57] <NthDegree> angelaki, what is the problem with it?
[11:57] <Jp> r u robots
[11:57] <clearzen> I'm at work....I was scanning the text :p
[11:57] <NthDegree> lol
[11:57] <Jp> r u robots
[11:57] <angelaki> i can connect local but not from internet
[11:57] <npster> NthDegree: I know but my father needs it and guess what my Fathers company is going to use Ubuntu !
[11:57] <superuserdimitri> 58 users & no1 is responding
[11:57] <Jp> how old r u peeple
[11:57] <bluefusionxl> 15
[11:57] <superuserdimitri> guess ill jsut ahve 2 wait
[11:57] <linuchsan> clearzen: what is your wireless card manufacture?
[11:57] <npster> Jp: 14
[11:58] <sonium> 21
[11:58] <clearzen> linksys wpc11 verson 3
[11:58] <godfather_> sorry it doen't work
[11:58] <erUSUL> angelaki: are you using a firewall or are you using a router?
[11:58] <godfather_> i installed the deb file
[11:58] <Jp> im only 12 geez
[11:58] <godfather_> but i don't know how to launch it
[11:58] <NthDegree> npster: ubuntu prides itself on supporting EVERY language going it's sometimes a little crazy :)
[11:58] <angelaki> i use only a dsl modem. No firewall and i have make port forwrding in modem
[11:58] <Jp> im only 12
[11:58] <sonium> then you should probably go to #edubuntu ;)
[11:59] <caseyomah> dsl modem is router.
[11:59] <someusernoob> lol
[11:59] <Jp> c ya guys
[11:59] <godfather_> anyone colud help m
[11:59] <godfather_> e
[11:59] <npster> NthDegree: ok.
[12:00] <Xenguy> godfather_: try this to list the installed files:  dpkg -L pkgname |less
[12:00] <npster> godfather:ask
[12:00] <godfather_> well
[12:00] <Xenguy> godfather_: see if you can identify the binary file in that output
[12:00] <godfather_> i downloaded
[12:00] <Digital> why can't I get wine to work!!!
[12:00] <godfather_> a relplayer . rpm
[12:00] <lupine_85> Digital: "wine programname.exe"
[12:00] <Naik0> Hey i tried to change somethings in alsa mixer but its wrong wrong wrong i only hear PIIIIIP all the time. Can i set this alsa mixer to standard values?