[12:43] <toma> hey Hobbsee
[12:43] <Hobbsee> !ping
[12:43] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[12:44] <Hobbsee> hey toma 
[12:44] <toma> how's life?
[12:44] <Hobbsee> traffic sucks.  so do assignments
[12:44] <Hobbsee> apart from that, it's good
[12:50] <Riddell> hmm?
[12:51] <Riddell> what's the crack Hobbsee?
[12:52] <Hobbsee> Riddell: we were looking at kpersonalizerrc last night
[12:52] <Hobbsee> Riddell: lots of evil crack.
[12:52] <Riddell> my thoughts are just to remove it from startkde or whatever runs it on startup
[12:52] <Hobbsee> Riddell: http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kubuntu-default-settings.debdiff seems to work quite well.
[12:52] <Hobbsee> that would work, too.  more invasive change though
[12:53] <Hobbsee> based on the fact that when you install it the first time, of course you want to run it - that's why it's there.
[12:53] <Riddell> that change always stops it from running?
[12:53] <Hobbsee> it makes it run the first time, then never again
[12:53] <Hobbsee> which is still evil, but less evil
[12:53] <Riddell> k-d-s doesn't want it run, it's evil!
[12:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:54] <Hobbsee> fix it in startkde then if you want
[12:54] <Riddell> but since it's not installed I guess it probably can't run
[12:54] <Hobbsee> well yes
[12:54] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: you might not want to do todays edgy updates
[12:54] <Hobbsee> it's not installed by default - only by installign things like kdebase
[12:54] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: oh?  why?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> kdm/gdm/xdm died what looks like from a dbus update
[12:54] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: keybuk's been having fun with his crack, has he?
[12:55] <Hobbsee> ooh lovely.  jdong mentioned that yesterday, i think
[12:55] <gnomefreak> not sure how that is yet but no gui anymore
[12:55] <Hobbsee> at all?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> none
[12:55] <Hobbsee> lovely
[12:55] <Hobbsee> who's going to fix it?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> i dont know
[12:56] <gnomefreak> im tring to figure out why dbus messed up maybe it just screwed up the nvidia drivers?
[12:56] <Hobbsee> Riddell: will.  he likes fixing crack.
[12:57] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: what errors?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> nope gdm kdm and xdm none work
[12:57] <gnomefreak> none
[12:57] <Hobbsee> startx do anything useful?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> if started using /etc/..... it says starting kdm gives me a prompt
[12:57] <Hobbsee> weird
[12:58] <gnomefreak> startx gives me nvidia error about modules
[12:58] <Hobbsee> oh darn, its' 9am already.
[12:58] <gnomefreak> but nvidia was working up until dbus and ahivie(sp) server updates
[12:59] <gnomefreak> on nv atm and still no go
[12:59] <gnomefreak> let me try vesa
[01:00] <gnomefreak> vesa looks to work
[01:00] <gnomefreak> vesa does work :(
[01:00] <Hobbsee> so it's a problem with the nvidia drivers, with the newer dbus then?  hmmm
[01:01] <Hobbsee> night Riddell 
[01:04] <gnomefreak> vesa works :(
[01:15] <gnomefreak> fixed it  it messes with the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[03:12] <jdong> so, is anyone alive in here who is interested in getting to the bottom of laptop buttons and kmix master channels?
[03:12] <jdong> I'm looking through kdemultimedia and running into dead ends
[03:22] <nixternal> ok, what happened to katapult?
[03:46] <bddebian> Hello
[04:35] <imbrandon_> ...
[04:43] <nixternal> wasabi imbrandon_
[04:43] <Jucato> oooh... wasabi...
[04:43] <nixternal> you are either up late, or up to early
[04:43] <nixternal> wasabi jucato
[04:44] <nixternal> im in a good argument in the doco chan
[04:44] <nixternal> they pimped ubuntu in the UWN and left us out
[04:44] <Jucato> hehehe!
[04:44] <nixternal> im actually mad
[04:44] <Jucato> UWN?
[04:47] <nixternal> ubuntu weekly newsletter
[04:47] <Jucato> ah... 
[04:47] <Jucato> since when was Kubuntu actually included in it?
[04:47] <Jucato> :-D
[04:48] <nixternal> when I was doing it ;)
[04:49] <nixternal> me and Riddell would pimp Kubuntu in it every chance we got ;)
[04:49] <Jucato> lol
[04:49] <Jucato> maybe they should have an equal number of people from both sides... or 4 sides
[04:49] <imbrandon> Jucato: since day one
[04:49] <Jucato> heheh
[05:13] <Hobbsee> hey all
[05:13] <Jucato> good morning/afternoon!
[05:13] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:18] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee ;)
[05:19] <Hobbsee> hey nixternal, how are you doing?
[05:19] <nixternal> doin' good, and you?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> nixternal: are you going to make it to thursday's meeting?
[05:19] <nixternal> i should yes
[05:20] <Hobbsee> nixternal: nice.  got anything to present?  :)
[05:20] <nixternal> just me ;)
[05:20] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[05:20] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I'm still deciding whether I should add what I said last night to the agenda... I installed KNet again, and it doesn't seem that stable, at least when starting through Alt+F2
[05:20] <nixternal> that should get a bunch of bugs filed ;)
[05:21] <Jucato> hehe
[05:21] <Hobbsee> !info knet
[05:21] <ubotu> knet: The Knet is a frontend to pppd.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6beta1-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 1017 kB, installed size 1584 kB
[05:21] <Hobbsee> !info knet edgy
[05:21] <ubotu> knet: The Knet is a frontend to pppd.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6beta1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1017 kB, installed size 1584 kB
[05:21] <Jucato> same version... it seems to be unmaintained if kde-apps is any indication
[05:22] <Hobbsee> that's what i'm looking at, yeah
[05:23] <Jucato> maybe xDSL PPPoE users are just a minority nowadays, so there aren't much GUI apps for it?
[05:24] <Hobbsee> hmmm.  definetly seems out of date
[05:25] <Jucato> yeah... 
[05:25] <Jucato> oh well, back to work :-D
[05:26] <Hobbsee> uh, yeah
[05:27] <Hobbsee> *that's* what i was supposed to be doign this hour.
[05:27] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:27] <Hobbsee> brain's rather dead
[05:27] <Hobbsee> 4 hours straight of information thrown straight at it.
[05:28] <Jucato> take a few hours off then.. just to reboot your brain...
[05:28] <Jucato> it obviously ain't running Linux :-D
[05:28] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:28] <Hobbsee> i cant
[05:28] <Hobbsee> i have a test in an hour
[05:28] <Jucato> ooh... 
[05:30] <Jucato> hmm... first time to use Quanta+ in making the transcripts... another adventure... 
[05:40] <Hobbsee> hmmm.  this maths looks entirely and utterly evil.
[05:41] <imbrandon> heh
[05:41] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: i got a dumb question for you
[05:41] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: shoot
[05:42] <imbrandon> everyone from AU that i have seen type Math , plurlizes it ( e.g. maths ) , is that normal / taught there ?
[05:42] <imbrandon> hehehe
[05:42] <imbrandon> not that it matter, was just kinda curious
[05:42] <Jucato> heh
[05:43] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: it's called maths here.  you guys just have it wrong :P
[05:43] <Hobbsee> it's *always* maths here
[05:43] <Jucato> lol
[05:43] <imbrandon> haha you guys as in the other 7/8ths of the world :)
[05:43] <imbrandon> heheh just teasin, i was just curious
[05:43] <Hobbsee> :P
[05:44] <Jucato> I wouldn't tease Hobbsee. she has a mean whip, kicks nicks, and has kangaroo who could probably punch you to /dev/null :-D
[05:44] <imbrandon> anyhow yes its evil most of the time ;)
[05:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:44] <Hobbsee> Jucato: and i have root access to his main machine.
[05:45] <Jucato> lol
[05:45] <imbrandon> lol Jucato me and Hobbsee work togather on the evilness most of the time and tag team ( well not as much lately but in the past ) heh
[05:45] <Hobbsee> hehe...true that..
[05:45] <imbrandon> your 'roo ;)
[05:45] <Jucato> lol
[05:45] <Hobbsee> and the catch up due to missing uni from being sick.
[05:46] <Hobbsee> somehow i dont think i'll make it to the edgy+1 developer conference.
[05:46] <imbrandon> hhe
[05:46] <Hobbsee> it says it's got 12 mins
[05:46] <Hobbsee> but i know what happened last time i tested it :P
[05:46] <imbrandon> lol that means about 3.5 minutes
[05:47] <imbrandon> + shutdown
[05:47] <Jucato> hehe
[05:47] <Hobbsee> it sat on "2 mins remaning" for about 4, then on 1 min remaining for another couple, then on 0 min remaining for a few more mins
[05:47] <Hobbsee> no major problem with that, i'm not running much
[05:47] <imbrandon> that was a fun recovery
[05:48] <imbrandon> heh my lappy usaly lasts about half of what it reports
[05:48] <imbrandon> but thats still about 4 hours on a full battery
[05:48] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hah.  smart
[05:48] <imbrandon> as long as i dont try to burn a cd/dvd
[05:49] <imbrandon> heh
[05:49] <imbrandon> apple laptop ( ppc ) batteries rock
[05:50] <imbrandon> heh i need a bigger hdd in it though, running short on room and i have no media stored directly on it
[05:50] <Hobbsee> hey now, this is sucky.  integrating by changing variables at random, and then sayign "this equals that"
[05:50] <imbrandon> just fedora , suse , ubuntu ,kubuntu, and osx partitions LOL
[05:50] <Hobbsee> no, if you chop bits off, then surely the equation is *not* equal to what it was before.
[05:50] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:50] <imbrandon> all on a 30gig hdd
[05:50] <imbrandon> no less
[05:51] <Jucato> whoa... 5 OS on 30gb..
[05:51] <Hobbsee> that's impressive
[05:51] <imbrandon> well the kubuntu / ubuntu share a /home and /boot 
[05:51] <imbrandon> but yea basicly
[05:51] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:51] <Hobbsee> usually
[05:52] <Hobbsee> unless i've borked my partitioning
[05:52] <Jucato> ok... lunch time :-D
[05:52] <Jucato> going away....
[05:52] <imbrandon> its cramped , i like my desktop with 200gb and my file server with 4 x 400gb and the amd64's with 160gb each
[05:52] <imbrandon> and the 8 xboxes each have 80
[05:52] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: do you run pbuilders, etc, on that?
[05:52] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: yea thats bacsicly all i use it for
[05:52] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:53] <imbrandon> is to build for ppc and test other os's
[05:53] <imbrandon> osx is the only partition i actualy USE on it
[05:53] <imbrandon> for mail etc , the rest are "throw away" installs
[05:54] <imbrandon> and the build files are stored on the fileserver and maped via nfs
[05:54] <imbrandon> so i can wipe at will , really
[05:54] <imbrandon> and do quite often on it tbh ;)
[05:55] <Hobbsee> woot.  1 min again...
[05:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:59] <Hobbsee> i havent been yet!
[05:59] <Hobbsee> this is very, very red though :P
[07:37] <Hobbsee> hey again all
[07:38] <Jucato> wb Hobbsee!
[07:38] <Jucato> how was the quiz?
[07:38] <Hobbsee> that maths test was a joke.
[07:38] <Hobbsee> the tutor went around and gave people the answers!
[07:38] <Jucato> lol
[07:41] <Hobbsee> hmmm.
[07:41] <Hobbsee> first it was too many g-p-m icons, now it's none.
[07:41] <Jucato> lol
[07:41] <Jucato> how come? was there an update? (haven't booted into Edgy since sunday morning)
[07:42] <Hobbsee> interesting.  because it's segfaulting.
[07:43] <Hobbsee> Riddell: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GZQZhi92.html
[07:46] <Hawkwind> Man, can't believe Steve Irwin, the crocodile hunter, died today.  That's sad :(
[07:47] <Hobbsee> so the radio was serious?  wow
[07:47] <imbrandon> yup
[07:47] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Yep.  Happened at about 1pm New Zealand time they say
[07:48] <Jucato> whoa...
[07:48] <Jucato> how did he die?
[07:48] <Hawkwind> Stingray barb to the chest
[07:48] <Jucato> ouch...
[07:48] <Hawkwind> He was filming a show underwater
[07:49] <imbrandon> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
[07:52] <Jucato> how sad...
[07:53] <imbrandon> yup it sucks , leaste he was doing something he liked and not die in a car crash or some stupid thing
[07:53] <imbrandon> anyhow brb
[07:54] <Hawkwind> imbrandon: Yeah I totally agree.  He was definitely doing what he loved most
[07:54] <Jucato> and got killed by an animal he was trying to "demistify"...
[07:55] <Jucato> how ironic...
[07:58] <nixternal> no doubt...
[07:59] <imbrandon> sudo mksquashfs edit extract-cd/casper/filesystem.squashfs
[07:59] <imbrandon> gah
[08:01] <Jucato> where to make a request to increase the sound of kubuntu-login.ogg?
[08:01] <Jucato> s/sound/volume
[08:02] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ask kwwii/ Riddell if they know anything about it when they're alive
[08:02] <Jucato> darn.. they were alive this morning before I left. :-D
[08:03] <Hobbsee> lol
[08:05] <Jucato> lol! the /topic in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[08:13] <nixternal> g'nie
[08:13] <nixternal> g'nite too
[08:18] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: woohoo i rock "336148 extents written (656 MB)"
[08:18] <Hobbsee> :D
[08:19] <Jucato> imbrandon always r0ckz!
[08:19] <Jucato> :D
[08:22] <imbrandon> well my custom cd was more of a dvd, but i got it to under 700mb this time ;)
[08:22] <imbrandon> few more tidbits and it go's on bittorrent ;)
[10:04] <Tonio__> morning
[10:05] <Jucato> morning!
[10:31] <Lure> Riddell: do we plan to include http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/koffice-1.6-release-plan.html in Edgy?
[10:36] <MrFaber> hi all
[10:38] <MrFaber> Am I wrong or is there no red eye correction part in kubuntu standard installation? Why not ship kubuntu with digikam or something like that?
[10:38] <MrFaber> Or is new krita able to handle such little corrections?
[10:42] <seaLne> MrFaber: digikam is up for discussion at the meeting
[10:42] <MrFaber> seaLne, cool, thanks
[10:43] <MrFaber> With kipi it seems very powerfull and easy to handle
[11:00] <serzholino> Hi!
[11:00] <serzholino> [1.09.2006] [13:23:54] <serzholino> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22233
[11:00] <serzholino> [1.09.2006] [13:24:27]  <serzholino> How can it crash? m_dataAsBinary isn't a pointer...
[11:00] <serzholino> ater i've recompiled qt and app with gcc-3.4 the crash has gone
[11:00] <serzholino> *after
[11:01] <serzholino> what info is needed for bugreport about this?
[11:53] <Riddell> Lure: I have no idea, both koffice and KDE have releases days before edgy release
[12:04] <kwwii> moin
[12:11] <allee> kwwii: mahlzeit ;)
[12:11] <kwwii> allee: ein guten ;-) 
[12:12] <kwwii> zu frh zu essen fr mich 
[12:12] <kwwii> ;p
[12:28] <Lure> Riddell: it would be nice if we would sneek beta1 before FF and then just update with released version (similar as Firefox is currently beta in Edgy)
[12:38] <_Sime> Can someone with an updated edgy open the Media directory using that popup thing in the kicker
[12:38] <_Sime> and tell me where it goes to
[12:41] <_Sime> Don't applaud, just throw money. ;-)
[12:41] <Jucato> lol
[12:43] <_Sime> my media menu thingy goes to /media, (but my install has been hacked a bit though...)
[12:44] <Jucato> so sorry I couldn't help... still in Dapper...
[12:59] <_Sime> yep, found the problem which the media notifications and confirmed the cause
[01:00] <Jucato> heh. I was trying to hurry up and finish what I was doing so I could boot into Edgy...
[01:01] <_Sime> I tested it out with a CDROM, even though the machine is about 8kms away. (kind of tricky that, but do-able)
[01:03] <_Sime> eject -t
[01:03] <Jucato> 8kms away...
[01:03] <Jucato> wow
[01:08] <Lure> _Sime: it goes to /media/cdrom0 here (CD icon on kicker -> Open in New Window)
[01:09] <Lure> _Sime: but no mount dialog anymore (which I like, but not sure for other users)
[01:10] <_Sime> some code in the medianotifier relies on system:/media going to media:/ and not to /media.
[01:11] <_Sime> I'll be fixing medianotifier.
[01:18] <kwwii> Riddell: here are the main open issues in artwork: HWDB pics, finish About page, throbber?, finish Amarok
[01:19] <kwwii> Riddell: if you can think of anything I missed, let me know (other things still need polishinig, but that is different)
[01:21] <Riddell> that sounds right kwwii 
[02:32] <Lure> kwwii: and 1920x1200 wallpaper for splash ;-)
[02:42] <Hobbsee> hey all
[02:43] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee!
[02:44] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:55] <kwwii> Lure: yepp, I am on that
[02:56] <Lure> kwwii: thanks
[03:06] <Hobbsee> Jucato: know if Hawkwind, abattoir, etc are around?
[03:06] <Hobbsee> we could have a meeting now, if you wnat
[03:11] <Viper550> I still think QtCurve should be the default theme
[03:35] <abattoir> Hobbsee: hi
[03:35] <abattoir> Hobbsee: i dont think they are around though
[03:35] <Hobbsee> hey abattoir 
[03:35] <Hobbsee> ah okay...
[03:41] <Tm_T> mooh
[03:41] <Hobbsee> baa
[03:42] <Tm_T> #kubuntu-devel goes farm
[03:44] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: I'm here now though
[03:44] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: nice :)
[03:45] <Hawkwind> Dang, it's early in the morning here
[03:45] <Hawkwind> Hah
[03:46] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:46] <Hobbsee> mmm....morning
[03:49] <Jucato> so sorry, I had dinner...
[03:50] <Hobbsee> it's okay
[03:50] <Hobbsee> dinner is good
[03:50] <Jucato> :(
[03:50] <Jucato> my sister came over, so my mom and I and her ate dinner together
[03:50] <Hobbsee> ah, fun :)
[03:51] <Jucato> so... are Hawkwind and abattoir available?
[03:51] <abattoir> dont know if Hawkwind went back to sleep :P
[03:52] <Jucato> hm... it isn't his bedtime yet, is it?
[03:52] <Jucato> which one?
[03:53] <Hobbsee> zhcon, it looks like
[03:53] <Hawkwind> I'm still here.  Just reading some news
[03:53] <Hobbsee> the other one was looking for a libggi merge, which is waiting on a libgii merge, done by stevenk.
[03:53] <Hobbsee> which is sitting patiently in NEW
[03:53] <Jucato> there we're komplete
[03:53] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:54] <Hobbsee> even spelt with a k
[03:54] <Hobbsee> oh, that's waiting on libggi stuff too.
[03:54] <Jucato> ehehe. I'm trying to use the unkonventional K spelling to see how many people I kan annoy.
[03:55] <Jucato> of course, I could always gMake gSomething gLike gThis... but that's more diffikult
[03:55] <abattoir> who killed ubotu? :(
[03:55] <Jucato> he's still there
[03:56] <abattoir> !ubotu
[03:56] <abattoir> yes, but dead :(
[03:56] <Jucato> ooh...
[03:57] <Jucato> yay! I still hold the top spot! 
[03:58] <Jucato> so... where do we meet?
[03:58] <abattoir> Jucato: on the stats list... hehe, i dont see you losing your spot for a long time :)
[03:58] <Jucato> lol
[03:58] <Jucato> unless I don't login for um.. 2 weeks?
[03:58] <abattoir> Jucato: yes, and another Jucato should prop up in the meanwhile...
[03:59] <abattoir> to overtake you
[03:59] <Jucato> or if abattoir produces more than 3000 lines in that time :D
[04:00] <abattoir> Jucato: heh, i havent gone past 6000 in 2~3 wks, iirc :P
[04:00] <Jucato> heh! nice
[04:00] <abattoir> past the 6xxx figure that is
[04:00] <abattoir> ok, so where do we go?
[04:00] <abattoir> which room?
[04:00] <Jucato> I dunno. 
[04:00] <Jucato> Hobbsee?
[04:01] <Hobbsee> any will do
[04:01] <Jucato> #any?
[04:07] <danimo> imbrandon: ping?
[04:13] <ryanakca> kwwii: ping?
[04:14] <jdong> mke2fs /dev/scd0......
[04:20] <jdong> who says you can't debootstrap ubuntu onto a dvd+rw? :)
[04:23] <kwwii> ryanakca: pong
[04:25] <ryanakca> kwwii: I've got an idea for a cool default icon set in edgy... if it's not too late to submit one... realistiK... realeased a couple of days ago, Jucato and I have been testing it out... Just a sec, I'll get you the link
[04:25] <Hobbsee> ooh!  show!
[04:25] <Jucato> yep very nice icon set
[04:25] <ryanakca> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=44972
[04:25] <Jucato> it's my default now. just get rid of ferny and everything looks good
[04:26] <ryanakca> same here
[04:26] <abattoir> but dont we always stick to Crystal?
[04:26] <Jucato> it's based on the Crystal set
[04:26] <Jucato> Crystal SVG/GT/Clear
[04:26] <Jucato> but mostly GT, I think
[04:26] <ryanakca> ferny was kindof wierd but I've got the --klogo-cool set
[04:27] <kwwii> boah, it opens it in kate
[04:27] <ryanakca> O.o
[04:27] <ryanakca> o.O
[04:27] <ryanakca> wierd
[04:27] <Jucato> something with Konqueror or KGet trying to open a PHP file...
[04:28] <Hobbsee> abattoir: only because there's nothing bette
[04:28] <kwwii> messed up
[04:28] <abattoir> Hobbsee: why not Crystal Clear?
[04:28] <kwwii> crystal clear does not have svg sources
[04:28] <abattoir> kwwii: oh...
[04:28] <kwwii> and it is developed for and by linspire
[04:28] <Hobbsee> heh.  you're asking *me* about artwork :P
[04:28] <abattoir> :P
[04:28] <ryanakca> kwwii: I download threw firefox... since konqueror is ick
[04:29] <Jucato> oh.. ryanakca I don't think we can use realistiK. it's not complete yet. still some basic icons misisng for Kontact
[04:29] <abattoir> realistiK looks really promising... even though its just a compilation... a bit too shiny :P
[04:29] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: nor am I... all I do is run colorise on stuff
[04:29] <kwwii> that is what I heard as well, that there are quite a few missing
[04:29] <Jucato> and since Kubuntu falls back to Crystal SVG by default, we would have a weird mixture of Crystal SVG and Crystal GT-like icons...
[04:30] <Jucato> that's what I'm seeing in Kontact right now
[04:30] <Hobbsee> how pretty
[04:30] <ryanakca> meh, who needs kontact anyway :P
[04:31] <ryanakca> btw, has anybody else had problems with kmail/kontact + PGP/GPG?
[04:32] <kwwii> wow, interesting icons
[04:32] <kwwii> not too good at small sizes
[04:32] <kwwii> funky
[04:32] <kwwii> like a mix of things
[04:32] <Hobbsee> kwwii: it's edgy, why not?  :P
[04:32] <abattoir> the kmenu icon looks great too
[04:32] <Hobbsee> kwwii: we're only waiting till kde 4 to change them
[04:33] <Jucato> realistiK is like a transition set from Crystal SVG to Oxygen....
[04:33] <Hobbsee> do we have it packaged yet?
[04:33] <kwwii> yeah, we can changed things now, but we have to know that it will change for kde4
[04:34] <Jucato> it just came out Aug 31 ehehe
[04:34] <ryanakca> wasn't that notice a while back saying something along the lines of "From the developpers for the developpers" or something? and that Dapper was going  to be the stable version for general use?
[04:34] <Hobbsee> Jucato: 5 days ago.  *shrugs*  :P
[04:34] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: ish.
[04:34] <ryanakca> with second release 2 days ago
[04:34] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: it was going to have some interesting new stuff though.
[04:34] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: how do you package icons?
[04:34] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: with cdbs, iirc.
[04:35] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: take the source of another lot of icons, and change the relevant bits
[04:35] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: use dh_make, pick cdbs, then copy the debian/ from another icon set, and change it
[04:35] <ryanakca> helpful. how. where do they go? /usr/share/icons?
[04:35] <ryanakca> oh, ok
[04:35] <ryanakca> kk
[04:36] <ryanakca> as soon as I figure out how to upload my artwork to the wiki
[04:36] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: wiki formatting.  always fun :P
[04:38] <kwwii> re
[04:38] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:39] <Hobbsee> kwwii: what's this "outside" thing that you speak of?
[04:39] <kwwii> Hobbsee: since I got my wlan running on ppc,  I can sit out on one of the balconies and enjoy the warm weather while working :-)
[04:40] <Hobbsee> kwwii: nice :)
[04:40] <kwwii> outside is what you close your blinds to keep out
[04:40] <Hobbsee> kwwii: ahhh...
[04:40] <Hobbsee> oh, outside's the stuff that i BURN in, and turn bright red.  right. yes.
[04:40] <kwwii> hehe, we too (but luckily I live in germany so no worries)
[04:40] <Hobbsee> mmm...i'm still envious
[04:41] <kwwii> germany would be great, if it weren't for the germans :P
[04:41] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:42] <Hobbsee> true that
[04:47] <ryanakca> It's not excessively hot or cold... just right :)
[04:47] <kwwii> it is perfect weather
[04:48] <Hobbsee> it's dark outside.  no nice weather. and it sounds so inviting!
[04:50] <kwwii> :-)
[05:04] <kwwii> Riddell: any way to test this hwdb stuff?
[05:05] <Hobbsee> kwwii: from the kmenu?
[05:05] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: I'll get around to packaging the icons in an hour or so, mom wants me to clean my room :)
[05:05] <Jucato> heh
[05:05] <kwwii> :-)
[05:05] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: hehe, fair enough.
[05:06] <Jucato> ryanakca: maybe you could get the author's permission to change the default go.png and kmenu.png icons from ferny to kde_cool
[05:06] <Riddell> kwwii: on edgy install hwbd-client-kde and replace the files
[05:07] <Hobbsee> Riddell: PM?
[05:07] <Jucato> Riddell: would it be possible if kubuntu-login.ogg's volume be increased a bit? It's barely audible unless you crank up the volume
[05:07] <Riddell> Hobbsee: ok
[05:07] <Riddell> Jucato: I can hear it
[05:07] <Jucato> I can too, but it's very soft. 
[05:07] <Jucato> oh well, nvm :D 
[05:08] <kwwii> Riddell: cool, thanks....what about the animation?
[05:09] <Hobbsee> Riddell: yes, it's audible, but it's quite quiet, compared to the rest of the sounds.
[05:11] <Riddell> kwwii: the sound test animation?
[05:11] <Riddell> kwwii: that's an animated .gif, if you want to do something that fits better please do
[05:12] <kwwii> Riddell: ok, I'll see what I can come up with
[05:15] <Riddell> "Account for Luka Renko (lure) created"  yay!
[05:16] <Hobbsee> bzr or something?
[05:18] <Riddell> Hobbsee: for KDE SVN
[05:18] <Hobbsee> ahhh....
[05:19] <Jucato> cool
[05:40] <Hobbsee> night everyone
[05:40] <Jucato> night Hobbsee!
[05:40] <kwwii> night Hobbsee
[05:40] <Riddell> sleep tight
[05:40] <Hobbsee> will do
[05:40] <kwwii> Riddell: installing that requires python-qt4 which is not available
[05:40] <Hobbsee> for a bit :P
[05:41] <Hobbsee> before getting up again
[05:41] <Riddell> kwwii: are you on edgy?
[05:41] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:41] <kwwii> Riddell: yepp
[05:41] <Riddell> kwwii: do you have universe enabled?
[05:41] <kwwii> Riddell: probably not....since I just installed
[05:41] <Riddell> that'll be it then
[05:41] <kwwii> thanks :-)
[05:48] <nixternal> morning
[05:48] <Jucato> morning nixternal!
[05:51] <kwwii> man that is one messed up interface
[05:51] <kwwii> are we seriously going to use pbig pngs with padding to guess where the radio buttons are?
[05:52] <Riddell> kwwii: the radio buttons are a fixed width apart
[05:53] <Riddell> there's a big which means the arrow doesn't always show that I need to look at
[05:53] <kwwii> so I have to test the thing again and again to get the right size, and then if you increase your font size it looks horrible
[05:54] <kwwii> as it is now, only two arrows showed up, and they were both misplaced
[05:55] <Riddell> kwwii: for now you can just copy the existing PNGs and replace the arrow surely
[05:55] <Riddell> I've not tried it with a larger font and that could well break it, but I can look at that later
[05:55] <kwwii> Riddell: yeah, I did that already...but eventually I need to test it :-)
[05:56] <Riddell> kwwii: just copy them into place of the existing files
[05:58] <kwwii> gotcha
[07:11] <danimo> moin!
[07:11] <danimo> imbrandon: ping? :)
[07:12] <jdong> danimo: how many times have you tried already this morning? ;)
[07:12] <danimo> jdong: twice I think
[07:12] <Jucato> heh
[07:15] <Lure> danimo: why do you want to hack ubuntu kernel?
[07:15] <danimo> Lure: no, I want to debug a DVB-T related problem
[07:15] <Tonio__> re
[07:15] <danimo> Lure: it's annoying to boot windows in order to watch TV :)
[07:15] <danimo> wb Tonio__
[07:15] <Lure> danimo: that will be fun
[07:16] <danimo> Lure: well, it used to work
[07:16] <Lure> hi Tonio_
[07:16] <danimo> Lure: so it can't be too hard
[07:16] <Tonio_> hey Lure, danimo
[07:16] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'll ping mdz toonight again for katapult uvf exception
[07:16] <Lure> danimo: it worked in edgy or dapper? I know there is major edgy kernel update pending...
[07:16] <danimo> Lure: edgy
[07:17] <Tonio_> _Sime: ping ?
[07:24] <jdong> Lure: that makes me very uneasy :)
[07:25] <Lure> jdong: why? lot's of acpi/laptop goodess pending...
[07:25] <jdong> that's the good news... the bad news is that murphy's law for kernel updates typically applies to me :)
[08:03] <_Sime> Tonio_: pong
[08:03] <Tonio_> _Sime: I looked at the logs, and you seem to have find a solution to the media action selection box problem ?
[08:04] <_Sime> Tonio_: which problem, you'll have to be more specific. ;)
[08:04] <_Sime> Tonio_: the media notifier popup problem?
[08:05] <Tonio_> yup
[08:08] <_Sime> yeah I think so.
[08:08] <_Sime> I've found the cause and think that I know the fix.
[08:09] <Tonio_> _Sime: fantastic ;)
[08:39] <Tonio_> _Sime: want me to test the fix ? I can upload if needed too
[08:40] <_Sime> Tonio_: I first need to fix it and test it here, and then roll out a patch.
[08:40] <_Sime> Tonio_: But first I'm putting in a little feature for k-s-s for El before FF.
[08:41] <Tonio_> _Sime: sure, when is FF ?
[08:41] <_Sime> Tonio_: thursday???
[08:42] <Tonio_> _Sime: argh, I have a pending uvf exception and mds is not there for days...
[08:42] <Tonio_> he didn't respond to my mails concerning this
[08:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: any idea what matt is doing currently ?
[08:42] <Tonio_> s/mds/mdz
[08:43] <ryanakca> Tonio_: anyway I can help kubuntu-fr? You added me to the team/group... but I haven't heard anything since..
[08:43] <Tonio_> ryanakca: true, that team is..... silent :)
[08:43] <Tonio_> not official one, unfortunatelly
[08:43] <ryanakca> lol
[08:43] <ryanakca> :(
[08:44] <ryanakca> Well, if ever you guys need anything, ping me ;)
[08:45] <glatzor> hi mornfall, Kuhrscher
[08:46] <glatzor> mornfall: Could share a minute with us? We would like to know if adept will be shipped with a static build of ept in edgy too?
[08:46] <mornfall> hi?
[08:46] <mornfall> i have no idea, sorry
[08:46] <glatzor> mornfall: don't you remember me? the happy python coding guy from paris :)
[08:47] <glatzor> mornfall: currently adept comes with a static build of ept in dapper, right?
[08:47] <Kuhrscher> Hi glatzor, hi mornfall
[08:47] <glatzor> This could be the problem why the translations of the language pack  of libept are not used by adept.
[08:47] <mornfall> glatzor: vegan?
[08:47] <glatzor> jep.
[08:48] <mornfall> ah! :)
[08:48] <glatzor> that's me :)
[08:48] <mornfall> i do remember :)
[08:48] <glatzor> I hope in a positive way :)
[08:48] <mornfall> sorry if i was ... too insisting, in paris
[08:48] <Tonio_> ryanakca: sure
[08:50] <Tonio_> alleeEdgy32: just saw your comment on the meeting page and konsole... my stupidness on that point, I didn't though about that :)
[08:50] <glatzor> mornfall: my head is of concrete too :)
[08:50] <Tonio_> alleeEdgy32: I'm just removing the point to discuss since it doesn't make sense considerring this...
[08:50] <Tonio_> mornfall: heya :)
[08:50] <mornfall> as for current state of adept in dapper, i'm not sure, but it may be
[08:50] <glatzor> mornfall: but what is the status of adept/libept issue?
[08:50] <mornfall> err
[08:51] <mornfall> i meant edgy
[08:51] <mornfall> <-- all confused
[08:51] <mornfall> i'm all personal woes these days :\
[08:51] <mornfall> so i totally lost track
[08:51] <mornfall> i think Riddell did last adept upload?
[08:52] <glatzor> I haven't found the time to follow the development of Kubutnu recently.
[08:55] <jdong> lol
[08:55] <Tonio_> ;)
[08:56] <jdong> this is worth keeping
[08:56] <seaLne> depends if it works or not :)
[09:08] <Tonio_> Lure: I know you spend a few time on this, any infos that would be usefull ?
[09:08] <Lure> Tonio_: ?
[09:09] <Tonio_> Lure: the klipper segfault bug ;)
[09:09] <Tonio_> Lure: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124155
[09:09] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 124155 in general "klipperrc config read error as applet" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  
[09:09] <Tonio_> Lure: that ressembles to our bug, very much, since it works in konsole but not via the desktop lie
[09:10] <Tonio_> Lure: the only difference is that in that bug case there is no segfault, but the symptoms are exactly the same
[09:12] <Lure> Tonio_: segfault may be triggered by different compiler or compile options
[09:13] <Tonio_> Lure: yes, the problem is not due to klipper itself, since I downgraded it via a patch to test and the problem remains
[09:13] <Tonio_> that's a major bug, since every new installation is concerned directly
[09:15] <Tonio_> Lure: the problem appeared between 15 and 20th of august...
[09:15] <Tonio_> I'm looking at the changes in that period
[09:15] <Lure> Tonio_: I suspect some gcc/g++ change (+kde recompile) caused it
[09:16] <Lure> Tonio_: but bug is still in klipper
[09:16] <Tonio_> Lure: probably, yes
[09:16] <Tonio_> Lure: I think I've uploaded latest libqt in that period....
[09:16] <Tonio_> can be this too don't you think ?
[09:17] <Lure> Tonio_: maybe
[09:18] <Tonio_> Lure: nope it was later (08/26)
[09:22] <Lure> Tonio_: I will put a link in b.k.o bug to LP - I think these two bugs may be really related
[09:23] <Tonio_> Lure: b.k.o ?
[09:24] <Lure> bugs.kde.org
[09:24] <Tonio_> ah yes :)
[09:24] <Tonio_> Lure: well appart from the consequences, the description and symptoms are exactly the same
[09:29] <kwwii> hehe, edgy is a bit edgy
[09:29] <kwwii> I have two computers on which amarok doesn't work
[09:30] <Lure> kwwii: it works on two omputers here ;-) 
[09:30] <Lure> kwwii: ppc?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> Evens out then
[09:30] <Lure> ;-)
[09:31] <kwwii> Lure: yepp, both are ppc machines, one with dapper and one with edgy
[09:32] <kwwii> kinda makes it boring to theme something that does not even work :-)
[09:32] <Lure> kwwii: you should check with imbrandon - he did packaging and owns ppc...
[09:32] <kwwii> hehe, yeah, that is why he has been hiding from me
[09:33] <kwwii> actually, I think that it is not a problem with amarok on this machine, but rather that the sound card is not configured correctly
[09:34] <kwwii> man, this things really has some problems (but it looks nice) :-)
[09:34] <DaSkreech> ^_^
[09:36] <ryanakca> since #ubuntu-motu is a ghost-town, why am I getting these errors http://pastebin.ca/160826 when running cdbs-edit-patch 01-no-ferny-klogo.patch  ?
[09:40] <Tonio_> kwwii: ouch, that's nor fair...
[09:40] <Tonio_> is the problem known and confirmed ?
[09:40] <kwwii> dude, this ppc machine will not even install without text mode
[09:40] <kwwii> if I were to start counting problems with it, it would never end
[09:41] <kwwii> that is why it is a test machine ;-)
[09:41] <Tonio_> kwwii: :-(
[09:41] <kwwii> when amarok tries to start kmix it opens an endless number of windows which freezes my machine
[09:41] <kwwii> no matter how fast I call "killall kmix"
[09:41] <Tonio_> omg
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Only Amarok?
[09:44] <kwwii> yeah...after I kill the machine and restart, it starts kmix without a problem
[09:44] <kwwii> (although kmix has no mixer)
[09:45] <kwwii> the battery says it is full though, which is good, considering that I do not even have a battery
[09:46] <kwwii> yakuake does not create a dir in .kde/share/apps in edgy, why not?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> Does it do it on dapper?
[09:47] <kwwii> yepp, on a mac you have to change the default key-binding
[09:47] <kwwii> so it is very necessary for anyone who has to edit the rc file
[09:48] <DaSkreech> doesn't seem to have on one my machine
[09:50] <danimo> re
[09:51] <danimo> wb Lure
[09:53] <kwwii> ahhhhhh...again
[09:53] <DaSkreech> mornfall: I think I'm out of mana :(
[09:54] <mornfall> DaSkreech: damn
[09:55] <kwwii> ahaa! so I take it back that amarok is causing the problem
[09:55] <kwwii> it is pbbuttons
[09:55] <DaSkreech> Riddell is too powerful a beast for us :(
[09:55] <kwwii> press the volume key = kill your computer
[09:55] <DaSkreech> kwwii: http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/playground/artwork/Oxygen/theme/svg/actions/ok.svg?rev=577553
[09:55] <DaSkreech> Me no like :)
[09:56] <kwwii> and this time I got two power manager icons :-)
[09:56] <DaSkreech> Sweet :)
[09:56] <DaSkreech> More power to you?
[09:56] <kwwii> hehe
[09:56] <kwwii> no doubt
[09:56] <kwwii> you mean the check mark right?
[09:56] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[09:57] <kwwii> don't worry, it will not stay like that
[09:57] <DaSkreech> aight :) 
[09:58] <DaSkreech> Oh Nice work on the powermanager icons
[09:59] <kwwii> oh man, they still need some work
[10:00] <kwwii> I started on a 3d version but decided to do the other artwork that is non-existent first
[10:00] <kwwii> so...yakuake does not have a config file anywhere
[10:00] <kwwii> funky
[10:00] <kwwii> hehe, guess it does
[10:01] <DaSkreech> I think it must have but it
[10:01] <DaSkreech> s probably not in ~
[10:01] <kwwii> it is in kubuntu-default-settings
[10:01] <kwwii> last place I looked
[10:10] <Daskreech2> Any ideas for a Rekonstrucktor?
[10:25] <Tonio_> hurg ! 
[10:25] <Tonio_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:25] <Tonio_>   kdelibs4-dev: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (= 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu10) but it is not going to be installed
[10:26] <Tonio_> impossible to pbuild kdebase....
[10:27] <Tonio_> unless my pbuilder cache is crappy
[10:28] <ryanakca> anyone have free kubuntu stickers? I saw the add for the free ubuntu ones on the fridge... 
[10:30] <Tonio_> ryanakca: url please ?
[10:31] <ryanakca> http://system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_64
[10:33] <ryanakca> hmmm they had some kubuntu ones at LinuxTag... wonder if anyone has some extras...
[10:34] <Tonio_> ryanakca: I came with those at linuxtag ;)
[10:34] <Tonio_> but they are not free
[10:34] <ryanakca> :(
[10:34] <Tonio_> http://www.linux-schlepptops.de/index.php?cPath=22
[10:35] <Tonio_> it is not that much expensive though
[10:36] <ryanakca> 8 bucks... hmmm... and I don't have a credit card :(
[10:36] <ryanakca> I guess I'm stuck with ubuntu stickers that I color clue :)
[10:36] <ryanakca> s/clue/blue
[10:37] <Tonio_> ryanakca: note those stickers aren't metal ones
[10:37] <ryanakca> oh, yeah, good point
[10:42] <Riddell> hi mornfall 
[10:42] <mornfall> evening
[10:42] <Riddell> Tonio_: he's in the middle of a desert
[10:43] <Tonio_> Riddell: arf.... *
[10:43] <Tonio_> Riddell: isn't FF a problem for katapult ?
[10:44] <Tonio_> hum, it looks like some edgy mirrors are dead, I can't even recreate an edgy chroot
[10:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: I've done a patch to sync klipper with svn, maybe that will resolve the segfault patch... I will let you know when pbuilder works again
[10:45] <Tonio_> s/segfault patch/segfault bug
[10:49] <Riddell> curious post to kubuntu-devel there from Trolltech
[10:49] <Tonio_> Riddell: yes I noticed that :)
[10:49] <Riddell> mornfall: you summoned me?
[10:49] <danimo> yay, kickoff works :)
[10:49] <Tonio_> Riddell: I find this pretty cool, it shows they consider kubuntu, which is not that bad :)
[10:49] <mornfall> Riddell: due to glatzor 
[10:49] <Tonio_> danimo: ah ? !!!!
[10:50] <Tonio_> danimo: any way to get the sources or aren't they public ?
[10:50] <mornfall> Riddell: he was asking about the bundled libept and adept in edgy
[10:51] <glatzor> hi Riddell. In dapper adept was shipped with a statically build ept. So the language package translations of ept are not used by adept
[10:51] <Riddell> glatzor: because it doesn't change the gettext domain?
[10:52] <ryanakca> Riddell: do you need to be a "Kubuntu Member" do join https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team ?
[10:52] <Riddell> ryanakca: no
[10:52] <ryanakca> kk
[10:53] <Riddell> ryanakca: that team was there before we had kubuntu-members, it's less important now but you can still join
[10:53] <Lure> Tonio_: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/work/suse_kickoff/kicker/
[10:54] <Tonio_> Lure: hehe, I didn't knew it went to public :)
[10:54] <Tonio_> Lure: I'm packaging to test this
[10:54] <ryanakca> Riddell: kk, "it's less important now"... What team has taken it's place?
[10:54] <glatzor> Riddell: I feel sorry, but I am not able to do an "in deep" research on this issue.
[10:54] <glatzor> Riddell: I can only comment from a translators point of view.
[10:55] <Tonio_> Lure: only the kicker branch is required ?
[10:55] <Lure> Tonio_: do not know - danimo tried it...
[10:55] <danimo> Tonio_: well, imbrandon tried, but without success so far
[10:55] <kwwii>  erm, did the key combo for katapult change or does it not work on my machine?
[10:55] <Tonio_> danimo: which part is required ?
[10:55] <glatzor> Riddell: the translators invested a lot of time to do the translation.
[10:56] <Tonio_> danimo: because packaging everything is like packaging kdebase in fact :)
[10:56] <danimo> Tonio_: I compiled the parts of the branch required to launch kickoff: kicker, libkonq and kdmlibs
[10:56] <glatzor> Riddell: so it would be nice to see that adept actually makes use of them :)
[10:56] <mornfall> glatzor: the workaround is to merge libept.po into all the app po's
[10:56] <danimo> Tonio_: but I didn't make a package, I just installed it into /opt/kickoff
[10:57] <Tonio_> danimo: okay thanks, I'm trying this
[10:57] <glatzor> Riddell: mornfall: it would be nice if this could also be done for dapper, since there a lot of translation waiting in Rosetta
[10:57] <Riddell> glatzor: it won't be done for dapper but I agree it's important to fix for edgy
[10:58] <danimo> Tonio_: you will need beagle-dev
[10:58] <danimo> Tonio_: because it should be optional, but that doesn't work yet
[10:58] <danimo> Tonio_: build will just bail out without
[10:59] <Tonio_> danimo: okay
[11:00] <Riddell> Lure: congrats on your KDE account, did you commit your "Another small fix"?
[11:00] <Lure> Riddell: yes, and one new one.
[11:01] <Lure> Riddell: I did not know it is so easy to get account...
[11:01] <Riddell> Lure: KDE isn't /that/ elitest :)
[11:01] <ryanakca> sorry to but in... but KDE account?
[11:02] <Lure> ;-)
[11:02] <Riddell> ryanakca: to KDE's SVN
[11:02] <ryanakca> oh
[11:03] <glatzor> Riddell: It is #47181
[11:03] <Lure> Riddell: I cut out amarok's OSD to try to integrate it in kmilo, but I do not find a way to combine QPainter with QProgressBar
[11:04] <Lure> Riddell: OSD is done with QPainter (text + pixmaps), but we need to put QProgressBar for volume/brightness
[11:04] <Lure> Riddell: any idea if this is at all possible?
[11:04] <Riddell> Lure: just create a progressbar in the constuctor and move it to the central position
[11:04] <Riddell> it will be drawn separately
[11:05] <Lure> Riddell: ok, so no need to link widgets together?
[11:05] <Tonio_> danimo: hum, it looks like kickoff requires to patch the full kdebase.......
[11:07] <Riddell> Lure: not sure what you mean by link
[11:07] <Riddell> Lure: you just make a progressbar that is a child of the OSD widget and position it correctly
[11:07] <Riddell> ryanakca: when is that?
[11:08] <ryanakca> Sept 28th, but they want everything on REVU done by Friday (REVU Day)
[11:08] <Tonio_> danimo: it is not really possible to package it since that will conflict kdebase packages
[11:08] <Tonio_> too many files are the same
[11:08] <danimo> Tonio_: yes it does
[11:09] <danimo> Tonio_: or you can make kickoff a patch against kdebase
[11:09] <danimo> Tonio_: as in  diff
[11:09] <Tonio_> danimo: yes, that possible
[11:09] <Tonio_> but providing external packages isn't really possible
[11:09] <Lure> Riddell: amarok's OSDWidget is based on QWidget, so I though if I would add another QProgressBar I would need to somehow attach/connect/link to it  
[11:10] <danimo> Tonio_: well, unless of course you create an alternative package
[11:10] <Lure> Riddell: but never mind, will try just adding QProgressBar in constructor
[11:10] <danimo> Tonio_: but it's not too bad, since it's still very experimential
[11:10] <Tonio_> danimo: sure
[11:10] <Riddell> Lure: sure just make a new QProgressBar with the OSD as parent
[11:10] <Tonio_> danimo: I'll give a try when kdebase finish to build
[11:27] <ryanakca> #ubuntu-motu is dormant, so:  why am I getting these errors http://pastebin.ca/160826 when running cdbs-edit-patch 01-no-ferny-klogo.patch  ?
[11:29] <toma_flep> dsik full?
[11:31] <ryanakca> toma_flep: nope
[11:39] <Lure> toma_flep: when is digikam 0.9 supposed to be released?
[11:39] <toma_flep> Lure: no idea, it is in beta currently
[11:40] <Lure> toma_flep: ok, I though you are one of developers deciding the roadmap...
[11:40] <toma_flep> i was
[11:40] <toma_flep> not anymore
[12:00] <imbrandon> heya everyone
[12:00] <kwwii> imbrandon: when is my amarok going to work again?
[12:00] <imbrandon> kwwii: when they fix backports, i can compile one for you untill ten
[12:00] <imbrandon> then*
[12:00] <imbrandon> hold on lemme checfk on the bug status
[12:00] <kwwii> gotcha
[12:01] <kwwii> I have edgy running on my second ppc, but sound doesn't work
[12:01] <Riddell> kwwii: congrats :)
[12:01] <imbrandon> heh
[12:01] <imbrandon> heya Riddell
[12:01] <kwwii> Riddell: well, katapult doesn't work either
[12:01] <imbrandon> danimo: ping 
[12:02] <Riddell> hi imbrandon 
[12:02] <Riddell> kwwii: something is up with katapult, not sure what
[12:02] <kwwii> perhaps taht is a problem with the keyboard mapping
[12:02] <kwwii> hehe
[12:02] <imbrandon> yea its working some of the time and not others
[12:03] <kwwii> how does one configure sound on kubuntu?
[12:03] <imbrandon> wow bip + bitlbee + screen+ irssi + konversation rocks
[12:03] <kwwii> ie. a sound card
[12:03] <imbrandon> man its always "just worked" for me , no idea , but there is some settings in "system settings"
[12:03] <kwwii> it worked out of the text-mode box on dapper
[12:03] <ryanakca> #ubuntu-motu is dormant, so:  why am I getting these errors http://pastebin.ca/160826 when running cdbs-edit-patch 01-no-ferny-klogo.patch  ? No, /tmp is not full
[12:04] <kwwii> ryanakca: maybe they are ignoring you for asking such hard questions :p
[12:04] <ryanakca> lol
[12:04] <kwwii> I get that feeling sometimes
[12:04] <imbrandon> hehe
[12:04] <kwwii> ;-)
[12:05] <imbrandon> man something is screwy, everything is showing up with a + inforont of it
[12:05] <ryanakca> cdbs-edit-patch worked on apps... but with iconsets it seems to being a pain in the rear
[12:06] <imbrandon> heh look http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss19.png
[12:06] <imbrandon> all +'s
[12:06] <imbrandon> ryanakca: i dunon i've never used editpatch
[12:06] <Riddell> me neither
[12:06] <ryanakca> imbrandon: thats wierd
[12:07] <Riddell> ryanakca: simplepatch
[12:07] <Riddell> just make the diff -u by hand
[12:07] <Riddell> and put in debian/patches
[12:08] <imbrandon> i have a +u on my nick
[12:09] <kwwii> the sound of silence.......sucks
[12:10] <kwwii> Riddell: I have everything except for the animation done for the hwdb-kde interface
[12:10] <imbrandon> anyone know if danimo got kickoff compiling ? i have had zero luch
[12:10] <Riddell> kwwii: rocking
[12:10] <kwwii> I will do that tomorrow
[12:10] <kwwii> and then go on to other things
[12:10] <Riddell> imbrandon: he seemed to suggest he did
[12:10] <imbrandon> sweet
[12:10] <imbrandon> luck*
[12:11] <kwwii> guess I might as well add two versions of the usplash, one for the new 256 color idea and one for the old 16 color version