[12:11] <ryedunn> !sources
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[12:11] <ryedunn> !sourcelist
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[12:13] <zorgluuu> ah new cd is checksum ok :)
[12:14] <zorgluuu> swashfs seems cool stuff
[12:15] <soulrider> hi
[12:19] <Tokeiito> good evening
[12:19] <Larynx> hello
[12:19] <Tokeiito> how i can extract Microsoft Installer packets .msi on linux?
[12:21] <CatSoup> If my audio was working just fine a bit ago, why does Amarok say it can't initialize audio drivers?
[12:22] <NeoChaosX> does audio work with everything else?
[12:22] <CatSoup> nope.
[12:22] <CatSoup> not mplayer, or any other media player
[12:22] <NeoChaosX> what was the last thing that played sounds?
[12:23] <CatSoup> amarok probably.
[12:23] <NeoChaosX> you tried rebooting?
[12:23] <CatSoup> yep.
[12:23] <NeoChaosX> hm, weird
[12:23] <CatSoup> :-/
[12:24] <NeoChaosX> so what's the specific error message?
[12:24] <CatSoup> just plain says it can't initialize audio drivers.
[12:24] <CatSoup> even though it's simple onboard audio.
[12:25] <NeoChaosX> try reinstalling the kernel packages
[12:25] <CatSoup> and Totem can't start up because it says "Could not open resource for writing"
[12:25] <NeoChaosX> ohhhh, okay
[12:25] <NeoChaosX> i see
[12:25] <NeoChaosX> a program's taking up the sound device
[12:25] <NeoChaosX> so otherp rograms can't use it
[12:26] <CatSoup> ok.. except nothing is running... i don't think
[12:26] <CatSoup> since i just restarted.
[12:26] <NeoChaosX> you sure? you never know
[12:26] <NeoChaosX> i assume oyu're using kubuntu
[12:26] <CatSoup> yeah
[12:26] <CatSoup> gnome is installed though.
[12:27] <NeoChaosX> hm
[12:27] <NeoChaosX> it happens in both GNOME *and* KDE?
[12:27] <mshade> !qemu
[12:27] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[12:27] <CatSoup> i don't know about GNOME.
[12:27] <NeoChaosX> well, if it's in KDE
[12:27] <NeoChaosX> go into System Settings, then Sound and Multimedia > Sound System
[12:27] <zorgluuu> mshade: i applied this recipe with success
[12:27] <NeoChaosX> and uncheck "Enable the sound system"
[12:28] <NeoChaosX> then apply that and see if that clears up your problems
[12:28] <mshade> zorgluuu, the one at the link above?
[12:28] <CatSoup> nope
[12:29] <CatSoup> xine says it can't intialize any audio drivers
[12:29] <NeoChaosX> huh
[12:29] <NeoChaosX> go into a console and type in "killall arts"
[12:29] <mshade> CatSoup, killall artsd
[12:29] <NeoChaosX> yeah, what mshade said
[12:29] <mshade> :)
[12:29] <CatSoup> no process killed..
[12:29] <NeoChaosX> Hm, weird
[12:29] <mshade> has sound ever worked for ya?
[12:29] <CatSoup> yes, it has.
[12:29] <CatSoup> yesterday i believe.
[12:29] <NeoChaosX> um, hm
[12:30] <mshade> CatSoup, stay in the terminal.  try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[12:30] <mshade> see what you get
[12:30] <NeoChaosX> CatSoup: In the Amarok engine config, what's the output plugin?
[12:30] <mshade> control-c to quit that
[12:30] <zorgluuu> mshade: yes. and i have a window booting and running xp
[12:30] <CatSoup> xine.
[12:30] <mshade> zorgluuu, using kqemu as well?  winxp is installing right now
[12:31] <NeoChaosX> CatSoup: I know it's the xine engine. But in the xine engine, what's it's output?
[12:31] <CatSoup> oh, autodetect.
[12:31] <zorgluuu> mshade: yes, in fact i never tried without kqemu i think
[12:31] <NeoChaosX> CatSoup: Try setting it to alsa and see if that fixes it
[12:32] <CatSoup> xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers
[12:32] <CatSoup> :-/
[12:32] <NeoChaosX> Hm
[12:32] <mshade> CatSoup, did you get any output from cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ?
[12:32] <CatSoup> ..what?
[12:33] <dismal_> I have a mdf image file that I tried to convert to iso using mdf2iso.  It says its already in iso format.  Now I tried using iso-mount to mount it but iso mount doesnt show up in the right click menu.  Can anyone help me with these two little 'issues'?
[12:34] <mshade> dismal_, try moving it to nameoffile.iso and see if it shows up int he right click menu
[12:34] <mshade> if not, try mounting it manually
[12:34] <mshade> usethe command file nameofimage.mdf
[12:34] <mshade> and it'll tell you what it thinks it is
[12:35] <dismal_> ok so it is infact an ISO 9660 file
[12:35] <richard> Anyone got edgy eft on there system running?
[12:35] <dismal_> what do you mean try moving it to...
[12:35] <mshade> cool.  just rename it to a .iso  -- i've never used the right click to mount them though
[12:35] <soulrider> i do
[12:35] <soulrider> i got it in vmware
[12:35] <dismal_> ah ok
[12:35] <soulrider> up and running :)
[12:36] <mshade> you could try mounting it from the command line, if the right click still doesn't show up..
[12:36] <richard> Can you give me the syntax for the 'universe' address for 'adept' (I want to add this repository to my dapper) because some software is in this repository that I want. . .
[12:37] <dismal_> now its telling me it might be corrupt :/.
[12:37] <dismal_> "file might be wrong tupe or corrupt"
[12:37] <mshade> richard, it should already be in your sources.list -- just go through and uncomment it
[12:37] <dismal_> isomount says its not an iso, gah this is annoying
[12:38] <richard> No. ...I want the edgy eft univere repository. ....not the dapper one. . ..
[12:38] <mshade> what's it an iso of?
[12:38] <zorgluuu> kubuntu install is nice what the cd is uncorrupted :)
[12:38] <richard> I had edgy eft installed and removed it the other nite. . . the repositories are different I believe. . . .
[12:38] <dismal_> game, lost the discs many months ago but I always make isos.  This particular one i made mdf and it has always worked under windows...
[12:39] <mshade> richard, not sure, but following convention i think it would be:
[12:39] <mshade> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ eft universe
[12:39] <richard> I'll give her a try. ...thanks.
[12:39] <kirikou> when i want to install a program like kitty from src i got the error : configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> richard: just change every instance of dapper to edgy
[12:39] <dismal_> I'm thinking it's not actually an iso and mdf2iso is lying to me...
[12:40] <mshade> kirikou, you need to install gcc
[12:40] <mshade> !gcc
[12:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:44] <dismal_> even my original on my usb drive says it's iso9960 already.
[12:44] <mshade> perhaps it really is corrupt
[12:44] <mshade> :\
[12:44] <dismal_> :\ indeed
[12:44] <mshade> whats this an image of?
[12:45] <dismal_> game i bought
[12:45] <dismal_> lost the cd months ago (i tend to lose cds) so i made an img
[12:49] <piotr_> jest ktosik
[12:50] <mshade> dismal_, mount -t iso9660 -o lo /path/to/iso /mnt/cdrom
[12:50] <mshade> give that a shot
[12:51] <dismal_> ok, just need to copy it back over from the hd
[12:51] <Galathalion> im going bananas :<
[12:52] <Galathalion> how do i get amarok to work?
[12:54] <dismal_> "mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist"
[12:55] <mshade> ok, /media/cdrom
[12:55] <mshade> doesn't matter where you mount it really
[12:56] <dismal_> "is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)"
[12:56] <dismal_> i already have "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o lo /home/..."
[12:56] <mshade> ahhh
[12:56] <mshade> yeahh
[12:56] <mshade> mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /media/cdrom
[12:57] <dismal_> haha it worked!
[12:57] <mshade> bitchin'
[01:02] <dismal_> thanks a lot mshade :)
[01:04] <ubuntu> hi
[01:06] <ubuntu> hello everzbody. i have some trouble with kubuntu linux live cd. im trying to rename oder copy some files on my ntfs harddisk but i get an error *read only
[01:06] <ubuntu> how can i fix it? i woult like to have write access on the harddisk
[01:07] <mshade> dismal_, no worries :)
[01:08] <ubuntu> does anybody know how can i get access to my ntfs harddisk ? ply help
[01:08] <ubuntu> mount /dev/sda1 /media works well, but i just get read onlz access
[01:09] <ubuntu> anybody awake ?
[01:10] <ubuntu_> Salut tous
[01:10] <ubuntu> hi
[01:10] <ubuntu_> English or french?
[01:10] <ubuntu> does anybody know how can i get WRITE access to my ntfs harddisk ? ply help
[01:10] <ubuntu> eng
[01:10] <ubuntu> eng/ger
[01:11] <ubuntu_> Oh shit
[01:11] <ubuntu_> I'm french, and me and English, it's hard
[01:11] <ubuntu> try it out
[01:11] <mshade> #kubuntu-fr
[01:11] <mshade> for french
[01:11] <ubuntu_> Thank you very much ;)
[01:13] <zorgluuu> #kubuntu-fr is like nobody there :) #ubuntu-fr is a lot more lively
[01:13] <zorgluuu> well he is gone :)
[01:13] <Sanne> ubuntu: writing on ntfs is experimental and might be dangerous (and I don't know how to do it, either, but just so you know).
[01:13] <zorgluuu> mshade: btw my install issue was not a bug or anything, it was just my cd got corrupted during the burning :)
[01:14] <kegie> does anyone know if there's some place I could download color schemes for kate/kdevelop?
[01:14] <zorgluuu> !ntfs
[01:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:14] <zorgluuu> hmm there are solution i had seen gentoo page on this
[01:14] <ubuntu> thx zorgluuu
[01:14] <zorgluuu> ok how to get edit right on the bot
[01:14] <soulrider> kegie:  www-kde-look.org ?
[01:14] <pussfeller> Sanne: captive-ntfs is prob what you want
[01:14] <pussfeller> err rather fuse-ntfs
[01:15] <zorgluuu> or ntfslinux ntfs3g dont remember the name
[01:15] <zorgluuu> this bot is quite outdated
[01:15] <kegie> zorgluuu: hm, I suck - can't find any :/
[01:15] <pussfeller> its the fuse one uses windows native dlls to write
[01:15] <zorgluuu> we need to get some right to update the data on it
[01:15] <Sanne> pussfeller: I don't want it, I just warned ubuntu about it ;) Thanks anyway.
[01:15] <pussfeller> little higher in resource usage
[01:16] <Sanne> pussfeller: I would be too chicken to try it anyway, ig I had an ntfs system.
[01:17] <zorgluuu> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/#download <- this is one solution
[01:17] <pussfeller> Sanne: i have used the older one, captive, it works fine
[01:17] <zorgluuu> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ <- this is the other solution
[01:17] <pussfeller> fuse is the newer implementation
[01:17] <soulrider> im using the fuse ntfs thingy
[01:17] <pussfeller> cative uses something from react os, or beos, or somthing
[01:17] <soulrider> works like charm
[01:18] <pussfeller> can you convert to ntfs from fat without destroying data or using like gpartd?
[01:18] <nnn0> captive use the actuall windows library
[01:18] <soulrider> don think so
[01:18] <pussfeller> i got this 200g usb hd thats fat
[01:18] <nnn0> you have to copy some files from windos to get it up and running
[01:18] <pussfeller> scary, with all my power outages
[01:18] <Sanne> pussfeller: well, good to know, maybe for my darling, who just got a kubuntu/win2000 dual boot system :)
[01:19] <pussfeller> i think fat only messes up when a WRITE is interupted, not reads
[01:19] <pussfeller> i should have made it ext3....
[01:28] <khes> how do I install madwifi drivers?
[01:29] <root__> Are the forums down?
[01:30] <coreymon77> hey guys
[01:31] <hatch> Hey
[01:31] <coreymon77> any body know how to use bonjour
[01:31] <coreymon77> also known as rendez-vous
[01:32] <hatch> Nope, sorry :(
[01:32] <hatch> RTFM?
[01:35] <word> Hi...i'm having some trouble with my hard drive..it seems after a certain ammount of continuous reading and writing the hard drive stops functioning..until a restart..but i have mythtv recording 1.1gig + tv shows to it with little to no problems. could this mean a bad hard drive?
[01:38] <hatch> Do you have DMA turned on?
[01:39] <word> hatch: no according to hdparm it's neither on nor off ;-/ it's an sata drive if that changes things..not too familiar with dma
[01:39] <hatch> hmm
[01:39] <hatch> I don't really know what might be causing you grief really, DMA is a good place to start.
[01:40] <hatch> Perhaps theres a filesize limitation on your FS?
[01:40] <word> it's xfs and that's supposed to be able to handle large files well.
[01:41] <hatch> Hmm
[01:42] <hatch> Wierd
[01:42] <hatch> Perhaps its over heating? Check  dmesg, maybe it will tell you "OMGHarddrivedied:o"
[01:43] <tj> hey can anybody give me a link to a big brother chat room
[01:43] <tj> or off topic?
[01:44] <tj> or where can i find a list of servers
[01:45] <tj> hewoo?????
[01:45] <pushpop> is SuperKarabma installed on the default install?
[01:45] <word> hatch: well there is some "omglol you're trying to access me i'll throw some errors..oh crap! i'm dying!"
[01:46] <hatch> orly? Like what?
[01:46] <word> hatch: http://pastebin.ca/160230
[01:47] <word> i saw the words parity error...assume it was BAD...and tried to pretend i didn't look and therefore it didn't exist ><
[01:47] <hatch> Its not full is it?
[01:48] <word> no where near
[01:48] <hatch> hmm
[01:48] <hatch> Not really sure, have you tried searching the forums for a similar problem?
[01:50] <hatch> even google is sometimes useful for finding similar probs
[01:50] <hatch> If you have an error, chances are someone else does too :
[01:50] <hatch> ;p
[01:51] <pushpop> Everytime I do a apt-get I get Invalid Operation
[01:52] <pushpop> is there a reason why?
[01:53] <hatch> sudo?
[01:53] <pushpop> ya
[01:53] <pushpop> sudo apt-get xchat
[01:53] <pushpop> and I get invalid operation
[01:54] <Sanne> pushpop: sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:54] <pushpop> o
[01:54] <pushpop> im a newb
[01:54] <pushpop> thanks
[01:54] <Sanne> pushpop: you're welcome :)
[01:54] <hatch> nice save
[01:55] <hatch> I'm new to ubuntu myself
[01:55] <hatch> Im so used to emerge
[01:55] <pushpop> ahha ya other machine I run for myth tv is gentoo
[01:56] <pushpop> anyone here on the east coast know some good respitories
[01:56] <pushpop> spelling!
[01:56] <hatch> Im on the right coast, but have no idea XD
[01:56] <pushpop> =)
[01:58] <hatch> Where at?
[01:58] <pushpop> new york
[01:58] <pushpop> couldnt find package xchat
[01:58] <claydoh> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, but basically use the us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:58] <pushpop> aint that a common package
[01:59] <hatch> Kubuntu comes with Kopete, thats what i use
[01:59] <claydoh> !xchat
[01:59] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[01:59] <hatch> I used to use trillian on my windows side of the coin, but msn support washed out
[01:59] <claydoh> xchat is in Universe, have to enable that
[02:00] <claydoh> source-o-matic will help with that
[02:00] <pushpop> ok
[02:00] <hatch> Hey, that reminds me
[02:00] <hatch> What is foomatic?
[02:00] <word> !foomatic
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foomatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <word> meh was worth a shot lol..
[02:00] <hatch> :p
[02:00] <hatch> I've seen it whiz by on some old emerge scripts
[02:01] <hatch> Checking for foomatic type conversion... blah blah blah
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> footmatic is for communicating printer and unix
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> i believe
[02:01] <pushpop> dapper is the newest release correct lol
[02:01] <pushpop> ?
[02:02] <nnn0> kind of
[02:02] <nnn0> :)
[02:02] <hatch> Admiral: Ohhh
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> pushpop, yes
[02:02] <pushpop> where is the respitory file located?
[02:03] <pushpop> . /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> pushpop, yes
[02:03] <Galathalion> kiss
[02:03] <hatch> Dont forget to de-comment lines in pairs
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> err no
[02:04] <pushpop> 1 last question
[02:04] <pushpop> whats the default kde text editor?
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> kate
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> actuall. uncomment if you want
[02:04] <hatch> kwrite?
[02:04] <claydoh> kate or kwrite
[02:04] <hatch> probably kate
[02:04] <claydoh> kwrite is lighter
[02:05] <claydoh> in kde , right-click, and choose "actions" on the file, then "edit as root"
[02:05] <claydoh> it opens the file in kwrite with sudo
[02:05] <ismael_> how do I change the default mp3 player? I hate amarok
[02:06] <tyler_d> help me... trying to install flash in konqueror
[02:06] <pushpop> !xchat
[02:06] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[02:06] <host-one> flash?
[02:07] <host-one> macromedia flash?
[02:07] <tyler_d> macromedia flash
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> ismael_, in the system settings
[02:08] <host-one> try with the repository
[02:08] <host-one> use adept
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> tyler_d, there is a package called flash-nonfree or something like that
[02:09] <hatch> Say, is mp3 supported in AMD64?
[02:09] <pushpop> how do I add the componet universe respitory
[02:09] <fjsanchez> Hi everybody
[02:09] <tyler_d> Admiral_Chicago: installed that... still won't show up in konqueror?
[02:09] <scott__> good evening everyone
[02:09] <tyler_d> Admiral_Chicago: or in mozilla either
[02:09] <scott__> does anyone know a good dvd player for kubuntu?
[02:09] <host-one> vlc
[02:09] <pushpop> mplayer
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> tyler_d, you have tn import the plug in manually in konquerer
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> vlc
[02:10] <host-one> vlc have a lot of codec
[02:10] <ismael_> Admiral_Chicago I looked there, but didn't find anything helpful. Where should I be looking?
[02:10] <tyler_d> Admiral_Chicago: how Might I go about that please?
[02:10] <fjsanchez> I have a problem with my window manager. I use KDE but when I star sesion (throught KDM) it seems like failsafe
[02:10] <fjsanchez> What log can I see?
[02:10] <scott__> I need some help on how to get a software package to install on linux...novice here
[02:10] <Admiral_Chicago> tyler_d, open it up
[02:10] <tyler_d> Admiral_Chicago: ok
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> go to setting -- configure konqueror -- plug ins
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> scan for new
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> scott__, what package?
[02:11] <scott__> or better yet...how can I get the kde deskop environment to install on kubuntu?
[02:11] <tyler_d> Admiral_Chicago: ok
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> check the tab on the right
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> flash should be installed
[02:12] <scott__> are you talking to me Admiral?
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> scott__, sudo apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop
[02:12] <tyler_d> Admiral_Chicago: what tab on the right?
[02:12] <fjsanchez> who can help me?
[02:12] <scott__> ok...can you walk me through installing it Admiral?
[02:12] <fjsanchez> I have a problem with my window manager. I use KDE but when I star sesion (throught KDM) it seems like failsafe
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> next to scan, there is a tab that says plug un
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> scott__, open up a konsole
[02:13] <tyler_d> Admiral_Chicago: ok
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> or terminal
[02:13] <fjsanchez> Where should I see?
[02:13] <tyler_d> Admiral_Chicago: nothing in that list
[02:13] <scott__> konsole is where? under installing programs?
[02:14] <fjsanchez> what is the window manager in kde?
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> console, it should be in you programs
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> its like a black box kinda
[02:16] <scott__> admiral...booted myself...sorry about that
[02:16] <host-one> tyler do you have install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:16] <host-one> ?
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> scott__, or you could go to run command and type "console"
[02:16] <scott__> how do I install the KDE desttop environment?
[02:16] <host-one> konsole
[02:17] <host-one> not console :)
[02:17] <Admiral_Chicago> type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:17] <Keaton> Okay, I'm having trouble with my ATI Radeon 9200 card. Xserver's ati drivers won't work with it. I tried reconfiguring Xserver through shell, but I had almost the same problem. Before, when I tried to get it to autodetect, it would boot up to a blank screen. When I configured it manualy, it booted up and hung at a blank Kubuntu bootscreen, until I told it to shutdown.
[02:17] <hatch> Does Kubuntu support mp3 playback with AMD64 architecture?
[02:17] <Admiral_Chicago> hatch, yen
[02:17] <Admiral_Chicago> actually
[02:18] <scott__> I am going to sound even more like a novice...wher is the run command line?
[02:18] <Admiral_Chicago> no, i'm not sure
[02:18] <fjsanchez> I have a problem with my window manager. I use KDE but when I star sesion (throught KDM) it seems like failsafe
[02:18] <fjsanchez> Where should I see?
[02:18] <fjsanchez> what is the window manager in kde?
[02:18] <Admiral_Chicago> scott__, hold on, i don't use GNOME so i have to figure it out
[02:18] <host-one> scott_: is in the menu
[02:18] <Hawkwind> scott__: Open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <scott__> ok...it sucks that gnome is the default for kubuntu...but ready to make the switch away from microsoft
[02:19] <hatch> I've been trying to find the packages that are listed in the FAQ, but most dont show up in Adept. And i have all the repositories enabled
[02:19] <Hawkwind> scott__: Gnome is *not* the default for Kubuntu
[02:19] <Admiral_Chicago> scott__, gnome is the default for ubuntu
[02:19] <Admiral_Chicago> kde is the default for [k] ubuntu
[02:19] <scott__> well...that is what I have then
[02:19] <Admiral_Chicago> Xfce is the default for Xubuntu
[02:20] <host-one> scott_:you have ubuntu or kubuntu??
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> host-one, probably Ubuntu
[02:21] <scott__> its installing now Admiral
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> scott__, good
[02:21] <scott__> after its installed...what do I have to do?
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> reboot
[02:21] <scott__> reboot completely...or just log out?
[02:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i think you could log out
[02:22] <Hawkwind> scott__: Just log out
[02:22] <scott__> can you walk me through how to install mplayer?
[02:22] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:22] <Hawkwind> Rebooting is for Windows users, new hardware and after you install a new kernel
[02:22] <host-one> it's the same
[02:22] <host-one> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, yea i know but I do so I can see KDM and not GDM
[02:23] <Keaton> I've got another problem: there are these weird flashing lines going verticaly down my screen while I'm in Xserver. Is this some sort of refresh rate problem or what?
[02:23] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: You don't need to reboot to get KDM instead of GDM either.  Rebooting is seriously for new hardware, new kernels and Windows users
[02:23] <scott__> let me get KDE installed....and then I will look at mplayer
[02:24] <scott__> I might have to come back....
[02:24] <scott__> its still installing KDE...
[02:24] <host-one> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:24] <hatch> I get an error when i do that.
[02:25] <hatch> keaton: I had that problem too, after using some automatic configuration. If you restart x it should go away
[02:25] <tyler_d> I cannot get adept to open... it has locked and asked for my password, but nothing after that?
[02:25] <scott__> I will say one thing for linux...has breathed alot of new life into an old laptop
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, i thought you did
[02:25] <Keaton> hatch: I've already restarted X today. Didn't fix it.
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> oh well
[02:26] <scott__> this kind of reminds me of the pre windows 95 days
[02:26] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Absolutely not.  Linux can do most everything without rebooting
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> scott__, because it doesn't suck
[02:26] <scott__> like the wild, wild west...all over again
[02:26] <hatch> keaton: try... xorgconfig
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, i know how little rebooting is needed, but I thought kdm wasone of them
[02:26] <Keaton> alright, brb.
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> cool
[02:26] <scott__> is there a good speech recognition program for linux?
[02:26] <Hawkwind> Keaton: Try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:27] <scott__> does IBM have one?
[02:27] <hatch> Keaton : Yeah.. thats not avaliable in the distro, sorry :p
[02:27] <Keaton> Right, but what exactly and I supposed to change in the setup?
[02:27] <Keaton> I mean, is it refresh rate, or something else?
[02:28] <Admiral_Chicago> scott__, there is one
[02:28] <scott__> really...is it any good?
[02:28] <Keaton> I don't know what's wrong with it, so manualy configuring won't do anything for me, since I don't know what to fix.
[02:28] <Admiral_Chicago> whet you have KDE installed, look for Synaptic or Adept
[02:28] <tyler_d> anyone know what adept is in the system monitor so I can kill it...?
[02:28] <Admiral_Chicago> they have some programs
[02:29] <scott__> are they any good?
[02:29] <Admiral_Chicago> those two programs will let you search through packages
[02:29] <scott__> ok
[02:29] <Admiral_Chicago> i assume so, i haven't found one bad program in Kubuntu yet.
[02:29] <Admiral_Chicago> except emacs...
[02:30] <mr_daemon> Hey, I have a silly question -- I updated Amarok earlier and now it won't index my whole collection. It seems to wedge on two filenames with nothing really special in them. The window hints at TagLib being broken or out of date... any ideas?
[02:30] <Sanne> tyler_d: it's adept
[02:30] <tyler_d> Sanne: lol... that doesn't help much... why will it not load and has locked access?
[02:31] <Sanne> tyler_d: what did you do, what is the exact error if any?
[02:31] <tyler_d> Sanne: no error... closed it... attempted to re-open and now it prompts for the password then dissapears
[02:32] <tyler_d> Sanne: no errors or anything
[02:32] <host-one> tyler you have kubuntu?
[02:32] <Sanne> tyler_d: what is the output of: ps aux | grep adept
[02:33] <hatch> Well, when I feel like dedicating some more hours to this problem, I'm gonna head off
[02:33] <tyler_d> !pastebin
[02:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:34] <tyler_d> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22480
[02:34] <tyler_d> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22480
[02:34] <Sanne> tyler_d: wow, that's lots
[02:34] <tyler_d> Sanne: trying it a few times I have :D
[02:35] <Sanne> tyler_d: try: sudo killall adept, then check again
[02:36] <tyler_d> Sanne: tyler     8132  0.0  1.1  24960 11568 ?        S    18:15   0:00 kdesu adept
[02:36] <isidor> !frostwire
[02:36] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[02:36] <tyler_d> tyler     8132  0.0  1.1  24960 11568 ?        S    18:15   0:00 kdesu adept
[02:36] <tyler_d> tyler     9168  0.0  0.0   2876   796 pts/16   R+   18:35   0:00 grep adep
[02:36] <Sanne> tyler_d: ah, got most of them :)
[02:36] <tyler_d> database locked still??
[02:36] <mr_daemon> Is it me or dapper has disappeared from http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest
[02:37] <scott__> Admirial..curious...prior military?
[02:37] <Sanne> tyler_d: I would try to kill those two kdesu adept also.
[02:37] <hiro_p> heya peoples, I'm frustrated. I can't get my ipw2200 card to connect to a wep encrypted ap. the card is up and running, I can connect to a unencrypted ap. can anybody help me?
[02:37] <tyler_d> Sanne: just tried... says nothing 2 kill
[02:38] <host-one> anyone know an howto of kismet?
[02:38] <host-one> how to configure kismet
[02:39] <Sanne> tyler_d: let's kill with the process id. In the ps aux output line, you have: tyler <process id> ... it's a number. Type kill -9 <process id>
[02:39] <Sanne> grrr
[02:39] <Hawkwind> Best to not use -9
[02:39] <Hawkwind> Just type kill PID#
[02:39] <Hawkwind> -9 should be used only as a last resort
[02:39] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good evening
[02:39] <Sanne> Hawkwind: ah, good that tyler_d left then, thanks for the correction.
[02:40] <abattoir> hi Hawkwind :)
[02:40] <tyler_d> still the same error
[02:40] <host-one> devo impararmi il cazzo di inglese porcaputtana
[02:40] <tyler_d> !pastebin
[02:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:40] <host-one> emh.. sorry
[02:40] <Hawkwind> host-one: Care to put that into English :P
[02:40] <abattoir> !it
[02:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:40] <tyler_d> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22482 ????
[02:41] <Sanne> tyler_d: ps aux | grep adept
[02:42] <tyler_d> tyler     8132  0.0  1.1  24960 11568 ?        S    18:15   0:00 kdesu adept
[02:42] <tyler_d> tyler     9783  0.0  0.0   2880   800 pts/0    R+   18:42   0:00 grep adept
[02:42] <Sanne> tyler_d: the first one has to go
[02:42] <tyler_d> Sanne: I would agree
[02:43] <Sanne> tyler_d: the number after "tyler" is the process id, oid
[02:43] <Sanne> tyler_d: pid, even
[02:43] <Sanne> tyler_d: type: kill <pid>, or sudo kill <pid> if needed
[02:44] <Sanne> tyler_d: so: kill 8132
[02:44] <tyler_d> Sanne: k
[02:45] <Sanne> tyler_d: check with ps aux... again if it's gone
[02:45] <tyler_d> the pid keeps changing on the second
[02:45] <Sanne> huh?
[02:45] <tyler_d> Sanne: incrementing by 2
[02:45] <Sanne> oh
[02:46] <Sanne> could somebody else please look at tyler_d's problem, I guess this is too much for me ;)
[02:46] <tyler_d> Sanne: sorry for driving you nuts
[02:46] <tyler_d> it does keep changing though
[02:46] <Sanne> tyler_d: heh, no worries :)
[02:47] <host-one> tyler_d: reinstall kubuntu :p
[02:48] <tyler_d> okay wtf the pid on adept keeps changing.... cute host-one
[02:48] <tyler_d> host-one: any other ideas?
[02:48] <dan_> can sombody help me enable universe and multiverse
[02:48] <host-one> is not windows :)
[02:48] <host-one> nothing ideas
[02:49] <tyler_d> host-one: reminds me of viruses, or pop ups from windows
[02:49] <gekko`> tyler_d: are you sure that kdesu adpet process' id is incrementing and not the id of grep adept?
[02:49] <tyler_d> gekko: the number right after my name
[02:50] <tyler_d> gekko: to my understanding thats the sid, and I used that number to kill 1 of the 2 still running
[02:50] <tyler_d> gekko: but because this one is still running I cannot open it.... (locked)
[02:50] <gekko`> tyler_d: what's the output of ps ax | grep adept
[02:50] <Sanne> tyler_d: look at the commend, last on the line. If it's grep adept, it's from the command you just ran.
[02:50] <tyler_d> tyler    10121  0.0  0.0   2880   792 pts/0    R+   18:50   0:00 grep adept
[02:51] <gekko`> tyler_d: adept is killed then
[02:51] <tyler_d> gekko: so why are my lists still locked?
[02:51] <gekko`> that's just the information, that you just executed the command 'grep adept'
[02:52] <gekko`> tyler_d: you are running kdesu adept right?
[02:52] <tyler_d> gekko: yes
[02:53] <dan_>  can sombody help me enable universe and multiverse
[02:53] <gekko`> what's the error message?
[02:53] <tyler_d> gekko: I thihk?
[02:53] <tyler_d> gekko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22482
[02:53] <gekko`> tyler_d: if you do kdesu you should get a password prompt
[02:54] <Sanne> dan_: this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:54] <gekko`> tyler_d: what's the output of 'ps ax | grep apt' ?
[02:54] <tyler_d> gekko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22483
[02:54] <dan_> thanks
[02:55] <dan_> ill check it out
[02:55] <Sanne> dan_: you're welcome :)
[02:55] <host-one> good night in italy is the 3 am
[02:55] <gekko`> tyler_d: i meant, if you type 'kdesu adept' you should get a password prompt
[02:55] <host-one> byezzz
[02:55] <tyler_d> gekko 10309 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep apt
[02:56] <tyler_d> gekko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22483
[02:56] <gekko`> tyler_d: did you type 'kdesu adept' ?
[02:56] <tyler_d> gekko: yes I did
[02:56] <gekko`> because 'Line 11: kdesu: No command specified.'
[02:57] <tyler_d> gekko: here
[02:57] <tyler_d> gekko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22484
[02:58] <gekko`> tyler_d: are you typing that command as root?
[02:58] <tyler_d> gekko:  when I do sudo kdesu adept it spits out more..... still with the initial error though
[02:59] <tyler_d> gekko: cannot change system settings etc etc...
[02:59] <gekko`> tyler_d: ah, nevermind. i just thought you were typing that command as root
[02:59] <tyler_d> gekko: put it in as sudo... popped up, still locked though
[02:59] <tyler_d> need to unlock it
[03:01] <gekko`> tyler_d: that's weird. and you aren't using any other package manager?
[03:02] <cvt|expert> i have kubuntu 5.10; how to i upgrade to 6.?
[03:03] <gekko`> !upgrade > cvt|expert
[03:03] <zorglu_> ok i got back my tremulous1!!!!
[03:03] <zorglu_> 6or7hours later :)
[03:04] <scott__> can anyone walk me through installing mplayer?
[03:05] <abattoir> !info mplayer
[03:05] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[03:05] <abattoir> scott__: do you have the multiverse repository enabled?
[03:05] <scott__> novice here...what you just said went way over my head?
[03:05] <abattoir> scott__: aah, ok ;)
[03:06] <abattoir> !multiverse
[03:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:06] <abattoir> scott__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu specifically
[03:06] <scott__> listening
[03:06] <abattoir> scott__: once you have done that, you'd find mplayer in adept...
[03:06] <abattoir> scott__: or if you prefer the command line, 'sudo apt-get install adept' should get it for you.
[03:06] <carlos> hola
[03:07] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install mplayer you mean :P
[03:07] <scott__> ok....so I just used sudo adpt-get install adept....
[03:08] <scott__> now what?
[03:08] <Hawkwind> scott__: sudo apt-get install mplayer   if you want to install mplayer
[03:08] <abattoir> scott__: doh, sorry, my mistake...
[03:08] <abattoir> scott__: did you follow the links?
[03:08] <lucas> Hey.
[03:08] <abattoir> scott__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:08] <scott__> I followed your links adattoir
[03:09] <abattoir> scott__: ok, then do 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' as Hawkwind said :)
[03:09] <scott__> E: Couldn't find package mplayer...this is my error
[03:09] <Hawkwind> scott__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer
[03:09] <Hawkwind> scott__: If you just added new sources, you have to update them first
[03:10] <jcastro> buen dia a todos
[03:10] <Hawkwind> !es
[03:10] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:10] <scott__> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer
[03:10] <scott__> still geting an error
[03:10] <jcastro> thks
[03:10] <Hawkwind> scott__: Then you didn't enable the sources
[03:10] <scott__> so how do I enable the sources?
[03:10] <Hawkwind> scott__: Can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list into http://pastebin.ulteo.us please
[03:10] <Hawkwind> scott__: abattoir gave you the URL to do it
[03:11] <lory> .
[03:11] <Hawkwind> scott__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:11] <Hawkwind> scott__: Read it and follow it
[03:11] <scott__> ok....I will look
[03:12] <lory> -
[03:12] <Hawkwind> lory: Problems ?
[03:12] <zorglu_> !restricted
[03:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:13] <lory> .
[03:13] <Hawkwind> lory: Problems ?
[03:13] <lory> scusa :-)
[03:13] <dan_> can sombody help me install lime wire or frost wire
[03:13] <Sanne> night all
[03:14] <Hawkwind> dan_: Stay away from p2p apps, they are poorly coded and will only give you headaches
[03:14] <abattoir> hehe
[03:14] <abattoir> !limewire
[03:14] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[03:14] <abattoir> !frostwire
[03:14] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:14] <dan_> so what should i use bit torrent
[03:14] <Hawkwind> dan_: Bittorrent is your best bet, honestly
[03:15] <Hawkwind> dan_: Lot less headaches and much easier to install and get running
[03:17] <zorglu_> !easy
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <zorglu_> !easyubuntu
[03:17] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:20] <hiro_p> heya peoples, I'm frustrated. I can't get my ipw2200 card to connect to a wep encrypted ap. the card is up and running, I can connect to a unencrypted ap. can anybody help me please?
[03:20] <dan_> ubotu: i downloaded it and opened runLime.sh but it opened in a shell script what do i do now
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i downloaded it and opened runLime.sh but it opened in a shell script what do i do now - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <zorglu_> dan_: ubotu is a bto
[03:21] <zorglu_> bot
[03:21] <dan_> what is that
[03:22] <zorglu_> well a programm
[03:22] <zorglu_> not a human
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Basically, it's a smart computer program.
[03:22] <zorglu_> smart is a bit too much
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> dan_: Open a console in the directory with runLime.sh and then run './runLime.sh'
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> zorglu_: OK, how's this: an AI that will respond to certain scenarios with pre-programmed responses. :P
[03:23] <hiro_p> seems that ubotu made the turing-test :)
[03:24] <jcastro> hello i can't print on my printer samsung scx-4100 somebody know documentation about it?
[03:24] <zorglu_> CheeseBurgerMan: well any programm support this definition :)
[03:25] <zorglu_> turing is interesting
[03:25] <zorglu_> the computer has to appears as a human to another human
[03:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> zorglu_: OK "An IRC bot is a set of scripts or an independent program that performs special functions on Internet Relay Chat. "
[03:25] <zorglu_> nothing about intelligence or awareness or anything in fact :)
[03:25] <zorglu_> CheeseBurgerMan: ok you win :)
[03:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyway, dan_: Open a console in the directory with runLime.sh and then run './runLime.sh'
[03:27] <hiro_p> can anybody help me getting wep encryption running on my system?
[03:27] <zorglu_> i dotn use wireless
[03:28] <hiro_p> anybody else?
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> hiro_p: Tried using Wireless Assistant?
[03:29] <scott__> I need some help installing mplayer
[03:29] <hiro_p> i tried but it doesnt work. i also tried knetworkmanager and manually on the console with iwconfig. but it doesnt work
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> scott__: tried 'sudo apt-get install mplayer'?
[03:29] <scott__> and java software
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> !java
[03:29] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> hiro_p: I'm afraid I'm not really too good with the wireless either. :(
[03:30] <hiro_p> well thanks anyway
[03:30] <hiro_p> ^^
[03:31] <scott__> E: Couldn't find package mplayer...this is my error
[03:32] <scott__> what is the "multiverse repository?
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell scott__ about multiverse
[03:35] <Hawkwind> scott__: We've given you the URL about 5 times now.  You really should follow it
[03:37] <zorglu_> xine: found input plugin : http input plugin <- any idea on a fix ?
[03:38] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Does anyone know of a good GIF animation program?  Or a process for converting MPEG to GIF?
[03:38] <Hawkwind> elvin: Please don't do that again
[03:39] <LaserJock> is there there a menu item or CLI command to hibernate in Kubuntu?
[03:40] <hiro_p> LaserJock: rightclick on the klaptop icon in the taskbar
[03:40] <LaserJock> hiro_p: oh, excellent, thanks
[03:40] <hiro_p> no problem ^^
[03:41] <scott__> how do I find mplayer through synaptic?
[03:41] <dan_> is kubunu better than ubuntu
[03:41] <Ertain> If that's your preference...
[03:42] <jcastro> for me is the same :)
[03:42] <jcastro> just change the window manager
[03:42] <scott__> how do I install mplayer
[03:42] <LaserJock> I'd say it is different, "better" is very subjective
[03:42] <scott__> I keep getting an error...it cant find the program
[03:43] <elvin> Laserjock is cool
[03:43] <dan_> what is xubuntu
[03:43] <LaserJock> dan_: it's the XFCE4 flavor
[03:43] <scott__> can anyone walk me through the installation of mplayer?
[03:44] <LaserJock> dan_: uses GTK like Gnome but is a lighter desktop
[03:44] <dan_> ok what is katapult
[03:44] <LaserJock> dan_: it is usefull for older computers where you don't have a lot of RAM or cpu power
[03:44] <dan_> oh thanks
[03:45] <Ertain> Katapult is this little program that once you start it, a little slingshot icon appears.  Start to type the program you want to start and Katapult will try to match the program you want.  Or type in the name of a program and katapult will start it.
[03:46] <LaserJock> kinda like quicksilver on OS X :-)
[03:49] <jcastro> anybody can run need for speed most wanted with cedega ?
[03:53] <Hawkwind> jcastro: Ask the experts in #WineHQ or #Cedega
[03:53] <jcastro> thks is just a question :)
[03:55] <danish> hello all
[03:55] <danish> whats the default root password for kubuntu
[03:55] <LaserJock> there isn't one
[03:55] <coreymon77> whats cedega
[03:56] <LaserJock> danish: Ubuntu uses sudo
[03:56] <danish> so when i type su in shell
[03:56] <LaserJock> use sudo instead of su
[03:56] <LaserJock> and put in *your* password
[03:56] <danish> laser thnx
[03:56] <coreymon77> whats cedega
[03:57] <LaserJock> danish: Ubuntu is more secure that way
[03:57] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: It allows you to run Windows apps
[03:57] <amfibeus> does anyone know where to input dns server info (what config file to edit)?  just curious...
[03:57] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: IMO....a very crappy app that isn't worth the time
[03:57] <coreymon77> whats the diff between cedega and wine
[03:57] <Hawkwind> amfibeus: /etc/resolv.conf
[03:57] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: Visit their site and read
[03:57] <amfibeus> thanks Hawkwind
[03:58] <coreymon77> oic
[03:58] <danish> laserjock: can u type a complete command for with which i change root password b/c i am using kpackage and when i want to uninstall something its asking me for root password
[03:59] <coreymon77> its a wine knockoff thats made especially for games
[03:59] <Hawkwind> danish: sudo passwd root
[03:59] <coreymon77> anyways
[03:59] <Hawkwind> danish: Or even sudo passwd  might work
[03:59] <danish> hawkwind: k let me try it
[03:59] <LaserJock> well, you shouldn't need to do that though i don't think
[03:59] <coreymon77> i cant access my windows drive
[03:59] <Hawkwind> LaserJock: Some users prefer to have a traditional root account though, including myself
[03:59] <coreymon77> hawk: couldnt he just do sudo -s?
[04:00] <jcastro> i think that the difff is that cedega is make for run windows games and wine for run win apps
[04:00] <danish> kool laserjock and hawkwind thankx for the help
[04:00] <Hawkwind> jcastro: Wrong
[04:00] <amfibeus> Hawkwind: where would I enter "hsd1.il.comcast.net." ?
[04:00] <amfibeus> the search domain
[04:00] <Hawkwind> amfibeus: In /etc/resolv.conf  at the bottom of the file
[04:00] <Hawkwind> Or the first line if it's the search domain
[04:01] <Hawkwind> amfibeus: Though you don't necessarily need the search domain.  I have never used it in my resolv.conf file
[04:01] <coreymon77> anyways
[04:01] <danish> to quit su mode i just type 'exit su' right
[04:01] <coreymon77> im having trouble acessing my windoze drive
[04:01] <coreymon77> how do i do it
[04:01] <Hawkwind> danish: exit, or ctrl-d
[04:01] <amfibeus> should I prefix it with anything? I see the dns entries have "nameserver" before them...
[04:01] <Hawkwind> danish: You don't need exit su
[04:01] <danish> k
[04:02] <amfibeus> nameserver 68.87.72.130
[04:02] <danish> k
[04:02] <Hawkwind> amfibeus: I don't recall since I don't use the search domain in mine
[04:02] <amfibeus> ok thanks
[04:02] <eds01> when i'm in the terminal (well, it always does this, but its most noticable there), the stuff on the screen continues off the screen in all directions, so, for one thing, i cant see the command i'm typeing (although i can see the last command. it only goes off at the bottom for an extra line or so).  Does anyone know how to correct this?
[04:03] <coreymon77> hello
[04:04] <coreymon77> anyone know what i should do
[04:04] <coreymon77> i want to be able to acess my windows drive
[04:04] <eds01> coreymon77 - have you mounted the drive?
[04:05] <coreymon77> heres my problem
[04:05] <eds01> ^^
[04:05] <amfibeus> Hawkwind: just looked it up. "search" would be the prefix before a search domain...for future [unnecessary]  reference :)
[04:05] <Hawkwind> amfibeus: Ah yeah, that's it
[04:06] <coreymon77> i start up root konq and go to media, but then it gives me an error message saying "the KDE mediamanager is not running"
[04:06] <eds01> also, is there any way to change the volume (as in sound) from the command line?
[04:06] <|brad|> eds01:  aumix
[04:06] <eds01> thanks
[04:07] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: Why are you starting konqueror as root user ?
[04:07] <coreymon77> its the only way to acess my drive
[04:07] <coreymon77> its always been that way
[04:07] <coreymon77> its not a seperate partition
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Ummm that's incorrect
[04:07] <|brad|> you need to change fstab then
[04:07] <coreymon77> its a actual seperate drive
[04:07] <coreymon77> and its ntfs
[04:07] <Hawkwind> You need to change your settings in fstab to mount it with user permissions
[04:07] <coreymon77> tried
[04:07] <coreymon77> it
[04:07] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: You should never start konqueror as root
[04:07] <coreymon77> to much of a pain
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Or most any other GUI app except for an editor
[04:08] <coreymon77> decided just using root konq is easier
[04:08] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: Do things the correct way, or risk destroying your system
[04:08] <Hawkwind> !ntfs
[04:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:08] <coreymon77> hawk: its worked before
[04:08] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: Read that
[04:08] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: I don't care.  You do *not* start konqueror as root user
[04:08] <coreymon77> right up until dapper doing that has been perfectly fine
[04:09] <romeo_>  hi i would like to update amarok in adept but it says it will break package
[04:09] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Update it to what ?
[04:09] <coreymon77> hawk: i know what your getting at
[04:09] <romeo_>  also i have firefox 1505 and i would like to update to 06
[04:09] <coreymon77> but im not a complete noob
[04:09] <Hawkwind> romeo_: 1.5.0.6 is not available in dapper yet
[04:09] <romeo_> amarok 104
[04:09] <coreymon77> i never touch my linux drive when using root konq
[04:09] <Hawkwind> romeo_: You mean amarok 1.4.2 ???
[04:09] <romeo_> ok for firefox
[04:10] <romeo_> yes
[04:10] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: It doesn't matter.  You do *not* run konqueror as root, period
[04:10] <amfibeus> so, I just switched from kubuntu from ubuntu...never used kde before. so far, I really like it
[04:10] <amfibeus> *to
[04:10] <romeo_> 1.4.2
[04:10] <Hawkwind> romeo_: deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper amarok
[04:10] <coreymon77> sometimes you gotta, like when adding repos to apt
[04:10] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Add that to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <coreymon77> but anyways
[04:10] <coreymon77> whats that site again
[04:10] <romeo_> ok i do have a source for that i belkieve
[04:10] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  or possibly sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or even sudo apt-get install amarok
[04:11] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: I've been using Linux for 5 years and have never run konqueror as root, never
[04:11] <romeo_> but adept tells me it will break the package
[04:11] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Use the CLI to get the exact errors and put them into pastebin.ulteo.us
[04:11] <|brad|> Hawkwind: what distro before ubuntu?
[04:11] <romeo_> ok
[04:11] <Hawkwind> |brad|: Mandriva
[04:12] <eds01> so does anyone know how to make it so that text only displays on the screen instead of going off (below the screen and cutting off stuff to the left)?
[04:12] <Hawkwind> |brad|: I run the largest 3rd party rpm repository for Mandriva.  It can be found at http://SeerOfSouls.com/  and I even have a Ubuntu repo there now too :P
[04:12] <Hawkwind> eds01: What terminal app are you using ?
[04:12] <|brad|> Hawkwind: wow, thats hardcore
[04:13] <Hawkwind> |brad|: Heh.  I was an op of #Mandrake/#Mandriva for 3+ years.  Was the alternate contact for the channel as well
[04:13] <|brad|> i used to me a mandrake user back in the day. then i swiithced to slackware because i wanted more control of the system and wanted to learn more
[04:14] <eds01> its just the standard terminal - when i have this compy start up i have it go into the terminal first where i then have to start the xserver
[04:14] <eds01> it also did the same thng when i had my sisters box hooked up the the moniter with debian on it
[04:15] <coreymon77> ya that didnt help me
[04:15] <jan_> Hello guys
[04:15] <coreymon77> it said ignoring hda1 already in etc/fstab
[04:15] <coreymon77> and yet hda1 is the one that isnt working
[04:15] <jan_> i am trying to chANGE  a file permission
[04:16] <jan_> and its not letting me do it
[04:16] <jan_> how do i do it
[04:16] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: I know very little about NTFS since I haven't touched Windows in years.  But that how-to should help you if you have your fstab setup correctly
[04:16] <Hawkwind> jan_: chmod 777 /path/to/file  or use sudo if it's owned by root
[04:16] <Hawkwind> jan_: Change 777 to whatever perms you want of course
[04:17] <jan_> ii did 777 to the file name
[04:17] <jan_> and it says operation not permitted
[04:17] <Hawkwind> jan_: What's the full path of the file ?
[04:17] <Hawkwind> jan_: Then use sudo as I stated
[04:17] <Hawkwind> sudo chmod 777 /path/to/file
[04:17] <jan_> full path is /var/flexlm/aw.dat
[04:18] <jan_> ok ill try it hawkwind
[04:18] <coreymon77> i used the diskmounter thing for hda1 originally
[04:18] <coreymon77> and yet it still doesnt work
[04:18] <Hawkwind> sudo chmod 777 /var/flexml/aw.dat
[04:18] <Hawkwind> Ermmm, sorry
[04:18] <Hawkwind> sudo chmod 777 /var/flexlm/aw.dat
[04:18] <eds01> hawkwind - any ideas?
[04:19] <Hawkwind> eds01: Nope none at all unfortunately
[04:19] <eds01> darn
[04:19] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: You should wait around until someone here that knows and uses NTFS can help you
[04:19] <romeo_> i just got this message while trying to open adept
[04:19] <jan_> thanks hawkwind it works man
[04:19] <romeo_> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[04:19] <Hawkwind> jan_: No problem
[04:20] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list  into http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[04:20] <phiber_optic> dows anybody know the defaults.list in ubuntu
[04:20] <Hawkwind> phiber_optic: You mean the default sources.list ?
[04:21] <romeo_> i cant give you my source list i cant open adept
[04:21] <phiber_optic> Hawkwind, nooo lets say when u open an application like an mp3
[04:21] <bobby> anybody know if the latest nvidia drivers from nvidia.com contain nvidia-glx also?
[04:21] <Hawkwind> romeo_: You don't need to open adept for that
[04:21] <Hawkwind> romeo_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Type that from a terminal
[04:21] <romeo_> ok
[04:21] <Hawkwind> bobby: They most certianly should
[04:22] <Hawkwind> bobby: No reason why they wouldn't
[04:22] <Hawkwind> phiber_optic: Ohhh, I don't know
[04:22] <bobby> hmm... thanks
[04:22] <phiber_optic> anybody here knows?
[04:22] <Hawkwind> phiber_optic: You wanting the file /etc/gnome/defaults.list ?
[04:22] <phiber_optic> yeahhh
[04:23] <phiber_optic> Hawkind, but for kde.. i would like to know
[04:23] <|brad|> bobby: i just installed the nvidia drivers from the repo yesterday and all was well
[04:23] <|brad|> bobby: and i have a brand new card and they still worked
[04:23] <romeo_> ok it s sent
[04:23] <bobby> ok thanks, I have a 7800 go but I keep having problems installing xgl
[04:24] <Hawkwind> phiber_optic: Have you looked at /usr/share/applications/defaults.list ?
[04:24] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Give me the resulting URL please
[04:24] <phiber_optic> i dont have it
[04:25] <romeo_> well i thought i had posted
[04:25] <Hawkwind> phiber_optic: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/81
[04:25] <bobby> anybody know a good guide for installing xgl in kubuntu
[04:25] <Hawkwind> romeo_: I got it
[04:25] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Your sources list is messed up a bit
[04:25] <romeo_> can you check again?
[04:25] <Hawkwind> romeo_: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:25] <jan_> hawkwind : do you know how to install maya on kubuntu, i read the doc for installing
[04:25] <romeo_> meaning?
[04:26] <jan_> maya on ubuntu
[04:26] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Replace kwrite with your favorite editor
[04:26] <jan_> and folwed the instructions
[04:26] <Hawkwind> romeo_: You need to edit it and make sure everything is on one line
[04:26] <jan_> but at one stage it says lisence instalation failed
[04:26] <Hawkwind> jan_: Is it a webbrowser ?
[04:26] <jan_> no it is a software
[04:27] <Hawkwind> jan_: apt-cache search maya
[04:27] <Hawkwind> See if it's available in the repos
[04:27] <romeo_> sorry youre going too fast i dont programm and i m new to debian
[04:27] <jan_> no its not a free ware
[04:27] <Hawkwind> romeo_: In a terminal type:  kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:27] <Hawkwind> jan_: Oh, then I don't know
[04:27] <jan_> its a 3d programme
[04:27] <jan_> ok
[04:27] <romeo_> wehat you are saying what i posted is unreadable?/
[04:28] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Just do what I stated
[04:28] <romeo_> ok
[04:29] <romeo_> ok so i copy paste and send it to you?
[04:32] <Hawkwind> romeo_: No
[04:32] <Hawkwind> romeo_: You need to edit it appropriately.  You have things on a line that need to be on one line
[04:32] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Lines 9 and 10 need to be fixed
[04:33] <romeo_> ok
[04:33] <amfibeus> how do you create keyboard shortcuts (i.e. to open terminal with one button...or enable volume buttons on the keyboard)?
[04:35] <dismal_> Does anyone have any exp. with Cedega?  I've got a DVD mounted and when I try to install it Cedega doesn't do anything...  I do have aditional hd activity but thats about it and then everything is back to normal
[04:37] <orient2000> Hi! My desktop bar disapeared from the bottom of a screen. Does anybody know how to fix this problem?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> dismal_: Try #Cedega
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> orient2000, right click on the desktop
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> add panel
[04:38] <Jucato> orient2000: press Alt+F2 and type in "kicker" without the quotes
[04:38] <Hawkwind> orient2000: In a terminal type: kicker &
[04:38] <Jucato> heh...
[04:38] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hey there!
[04:38] <Jucato> 3 different answers for 1 question lol
[04:38] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind!
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> actually that wont work
[04:38] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I've been all alone for the past hour in here :P
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Heh, no that won't work
[04:39] <Jucato> oh sorry... I've been awake for the past 2 hours :-D
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Did you finally catch up on your sleep
[04:39] <Jucato> but I didn't log on to IRC until I got some important things finished...
[04:39] <Jucato> yes! finally! now to get back to work on those transcripts.. :-D
[04:39] <romeo_> ok look let s forget amarok for now can we try fixing adept?
[04:40] <Jucato> romeo_: what's wrong?
[04:40] <Hawkwind> romeo_: I told you how
[04:40] <romeo_> i m lost
[04:40] <romeo_> lol
[04:40] <Hawkwind> romeo_: You need to edit that file and fix lines 9 and 10
[04:40] <romeo_> and tired
[04:40] <Hawkwind> romeo_: They need to be all on ONE line
[04:40] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Line 9 needs to be all on one, and line 10 needs to be all on one
[04:40] <Jucato> oh... better rest for a while... it's not good to fix things when you're out of it...
[04:40] <orient2000> kicker is already running but I can not see it
[04:40] <romeo_> i know but i edite in where in krite?
[04:40] <Hawkwind> orient2000: killall kicker && kicker &
[04:41] <Jucato> ehehe....
[04:41] <Hawkwind> romeo_: In the file that opened up with the command I told you
[04:41] <romeo_> yes in konsol;e
[04:41] <Hawkwind> romeo_: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:41] <Hawkwind> romeo_: That will open up a GUI editor with the file.  You should see it with all the text
[04:42] <orient2000> bad device 168, filed to open device
[04:42] <Jucato> orient2000: if that still doesn't work, press Alt+F2 again and type in "systemsettings". then go to the Panel options and look for where the panel hid to. and bring it back into position...
[04:42] <Hawkwind> orient2000: Read this how-to on my forums to fix that:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[04:43] <Hawkwind> # deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted univ                                                                                                   erse multiverse
[04:43] <romeo_> yes ok i ve got the kist in kwrite what do i do next again?
[04:43] <Hawkwind> romeo_: That is what it looks like currently
[04:43] <romeo_> list*
[04:43] <Hawkwind> # deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:43] <Hawkwind> romeo_: That's what it *needs* to look like
[04:43] <Hawkwind> romeo_: Then do the same for line #10 as well
[04:44] <Hawkwind> # deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:44] <Hawkwind> romeo_: ^^^ That's what line shoudl look like
[04:44] <orient2000> Thanks. Now is OK.
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Got any links to any Kubuntu buttons and banners by any chance that I can download and use on a site ?
[04:45] <Jucato> buttons? do you mean the logo?
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Yes
[04:46] <Jucato> hold on let me check
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Like kubuntu logo buttons, not real big, but not real small
[04:46] <Hawkwind> I need a banner image too I think
[04:46] <Jucato> the kubuntu logo is in SVG format. easily resizable
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Jucato: That would be nice to have then
[04:46] <linlin> who do i need to talk to about getting an application added to the kubunto repos for use with apt-get ?
[04:46] <Hawkwind> I have no artistic skills, or I'd make my own :P
[04:46] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:47] <romeo_> let me close a few uneeded windows because i am lost
[04:47] <linlin> kubuntu*
[04:47] <Hawkwind> linlin: #Ubuntu-MOTU
[04:47] <Jucato> #ubuntu-motu
[04:49] <osiris> is there any way to get ktorrent 2.0 w/o having to build it from source ?
[04:49] <Jucato> Hawkwind: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork <--- for the banner, which they actually call the logo
[04:49] <Jucato> osiris: dapper-backports
[04:49] <osiris> little more info there
[04:49] <Hawkwind> osiris: Add backports to your sources.list
[04:49] <Hawkwind> osiris: I'm running 2.0.1 currently
[04:49] <Jucato> osiris: you need to enabled the dapper-backports in your sources.list
[04:50] <osiris> do they come in there stock, or do i have to add them somehow
[04:50] <Jucato> osiris: they're already there. you just need to enable/uncomment them
[04:50] <Hawkwind> osiris: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/83
[04:50] <Hawkwind> osiris: That's my current list
[04:51] <osiris> what about gpg keys for those sources Hawkwind
[04:51] <Jucato> osiris: you don't need them. the dapper-backports are official repositories
[04:51] <Hawkwind> Heh
[04:52] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Got any links to small buttons by chance for Kubuntu ?
[04:52] <Jucato> still looking :-D
[04:53] <Jucato> rawr Hawkwind! you've got too much repositories! no wonder osiris is confused :-D
[04:53] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Ok thanks.  I have one, but I'd like something a bit better
[04:53] <osiris> Jucato, i can handel it. im just slow
[04:53] <Jucato> :-D
[04:54] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I think the Kubuntu "logo" is really that whole long thing. so it's the logo + "kubuntu" word
[04:55] <Jucato> Hawkwind: btw, that's for dapper. the "banner" is different for Edgy
[04:55] <Jucato> this seems to be the official one... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=KubuntuLogo.svg
[04:56] <Jucato> gah! I'm confused now...
[04:56] <osiris> geesh.  looks like i have to do a dist upgrade after adding that source
[04:56] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hmmm, I can't get to that URL :(
[04:56] <Jucato> osiris: not really.
[04:56] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Where is the Edgy banner ?
[04:56] <Jucato> Hawkwind: hold on... sorry I linked to it directly
[04:57] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Nevermind, I got that last URL
[04:57] <Hawkwind> I don't like that black text
[04:57] <Jucato> heh, it's the official logo, AFAIK.
[04:57] <Hawkwind> Ok.  So no buttons anywhere ?
[04:57] <Jucato> the one I gave you earlier is the logo that's used for the login screen in Dapper and the banner on Kubuntu.org
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Yeah I got those
[04:58] <Jucato> no.just edit it in Inkscape... since it's SVG, resizing shouldn't be much of a problem
[04:58] <Jucato> Hawkwind: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[04:59] <midspeed> hi everybody can somebody tell me how i can search for other computers on my local network that have windows, im using kubuntu 6.06.1
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> midspeed, samba
[05:00] <Hawkwind> Bahhhh, the wiki goes down right when I'm looking for stuff :(
[05:01] <Jucato> nah it's just slow... I think
[05:03] <osiris> yeah i need the dist upgrade.  86 packages left behind
[05:03] <osiris> cheers Hawkwind
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> !xgl edgy
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xgl edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> !xgl
[05:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:04] <osiris> might have missed something in my last update
[05:04] <Jucato> ag
[05:04] <Jucato> ah
[05:04] <osiris> i haven't had much time w/ the system latley
[05:05] <osiris> work, work, work
[05:05] <osiris> voip, voip, voip
[05:05] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:06] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I can't seem to find any wiki/reference to the logo used in Dapper, probably because it's not yet released.
[05:06] <Jucato> but the Knot 2 page gives a preview: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu
[05:06] <Hawkwind> You mean Edgy
[05:06] <Jucato> s/Dapper/Edgy
[05:06] <Jucato> hehehe
[05:07] <maltaethiron> !seen Ztem
[05:07] <ubotu> I last saw Ztem (n=joe@c-68-43-148-115.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 10h 12m 41s ago, quiting: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Knot 2 is pretty awesome
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> i haven't had any problems with it yet
[05:07] <|brad|> how can i force umount
[05:08] <|brad|> im not worried about messing up the filesystem cause im umounting it to format it
[05:08] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: yeh. aside from a few bugs. but no show stoppers really
[05:08] <|brad|> umount -f doesnt work
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, no X update that breaks EVERY SINGLE computer
[05:09] <Jucato> lol
[05:10] <|brad|> that has been fixed but was a real pain in the neck
[05:10] <Jucato> it just shows that no distro is infallible...
[05:12] <Jucato> Hobbsee!! good morning (or afternoon in your case)
[05:12] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Good morning
[05:13] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato, Hawkwind
[05:13] <Hobbsee> 1pm
[05:13] <Jucato> yeah.. 11am here :-D
[05:14] <osiris> so what am I ? chopped liver ?
[05:14] <osiris> =)
[05:14] <Hobbsee> osiris: indeed.
[05:14] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:14] <osiris> werd
[05:14] <Jucato> no you're the god of the Egyptian underworld
[05:14] <osiris> i prefer "Lord of the Dead"
[05:14] <Jucato> hehehe sounds good too
[05:15] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: So how's life in Aussie land today
[05:15] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I think I found everything I need :)
[05:15] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: okay, just had 4 hours straight of class.
[05:15] <Jucato> you have a kangaroo!?!?!?!
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> that sentence should seem so odd
[05:16] <Hawkwind> LOL
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> IRC has desentisized me
[05:17] <Jucato> which sentence??
[05:17] <Admiral_Chicago> * Hobbsee has her kangaroo sitting outside, munching on the grass happily
[05:17] <Admiral_Chicago> that one
[05:18] <Jucato> ah....
[05:19] <Hobbsee> Jucato: of course!
[05:20] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:24] <glick> hey does anyone here use ekiga?
[05:25] <erivelton> ajuda: layout de teclado n~ao acentua
[05:25] <josef> hai
[05:26] <Jucato> !es
[05:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:26] <AZ_AS> think it's portguese, Jucato :)
[05:26] <Jucato> lol
[05:26] <Jucato> sorry
[05:26] <Jucato> my apologies...
[05:26] <AZ_AS> lol, no worries...saw the br in the ip
[05:27] <erivelton> ok, thanks.
[05:27] <AZ_AS> !por
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about por - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <Jucato> br?? that's brazil, right
[05:27] <Hobbsee> !po
[05:27] <AZ_AS> yep
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <AZ_AS> !portuguese
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portuguese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <Jucato> thought Brazil used Spanish... oh well...
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, haha
[05:28] <Jucato> !pt
[05:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:31] <tyler_d> I cannot use the arrows in flash content after installing and adding to konqueror??
[05:31] <miyako> has anyone had any success running XGL/Compiz under KDE?  I got it installed and working, but Konqeror won't launch, window decorations randomly disappear, and some shortcuts don't work; I was wondering if this was just the state of the software at the moment or if there is something I could do (i.e. get the sources from somewhere other than the offical repository, or compile it with some extra options or soemthing)
[05:33] <Hawkwind> !xgl
[05:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, i'm trying to get XGL working
[05:35] <Admiral_Chicago> but its hard to get the packages installed when it goes at 20kb/s
[05:35] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Better you than me :P
[05:36] <Admiral_Chicago> true dat
[05:37] <miyako> I like XGL, though it's a pain to have to quit it whenever I want to run a high end 3D application, and konqeror not working is a pain too
[05:40] <tyler_d> where are the nautilus-scripts located??
[05:40] <Jucato> tyler_d: err... better ask that in #ubuntu ?
[05:41] <tyler_d> ty
[05:41] <Jucato> unless someone here knows
[05:43] <|brad|> i tried all day yesterday to get compiz/xgl to work.... no luck
[05:48] <naegling23> hey everyone, im looking for a couple of repositories
[05:49] <Hobbsee> !repos
[05:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:49] <tj> he yhow do i go in a room thats offtopic?
[05:50] <unix_infidel> tj: join #kubuntu-offtopic?
[05:50] <Jucato>  /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:50] <tj> thanks
[05:50] <naegling23> yea, im trying to find ones that would have libmtp and mythtv-packages, I cant get any of them installed manually <------Linux noob
[05:53] <Hobbsee> !restricted > naegling23
[05:55] <glick> anyone here use ekiga that could call me?
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> I am setting up XGL and i got this... i'm supposed to "Use gconf-editor to change compiz settings and gcompizthemer to set your theme"
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> how can i do that
[05:57] <|brad|> right click on the desktop and click run command
[05:58] <|brad|> type gconf-editor
[05:58] <|brad|> btw tell me if it works cause i had a hell of a time trying to get it to work yesterday
[06:00] <Admiral_Chicago> |brad|, i don't know what i'm supposed to do with it
[06:01] <|brad|> 1 sec dude....
[06:01] <Admiral_Chicago> and i think this is all for GNOME
[06:03] <|brad|> Admiral_Chicago: crap i cant find that how-to that had a picture
[06:03] <|brad|> it can work in kde too
[06:03] <|brad|> ati or nvidia?
[06:03] <|brad|> did you try this one http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060602173658632 ?
[06:04] <digs> how do I configure gtk2-engines-gtk-qt to work with KDE ?
[06:05] <digs> I have installed it but all I get is a gtk look and feel
[06:05] <Admiral_Chicago> nvidia
[06:06] <|brad|> k menu > system setting > apperance
[06:06] <Admiral_Chicago> |brad|, i used that site to install XGL
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago> but i'm stuck on the "change settings to match my theme"
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago> nevermind i 'm a noob
[06:10] <PyroMithrandir> Admiral_Chicago, let me know how it integrates with KDE, because I tried it a few months ago and it didn't let me have a lot of KDE stuff that I like when I had xgl/compiz running
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> PyroMithrandir, for sure
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm on edgy too
[06:10] <PyroMithrandir> like, multiple desktops sucked
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> PyroMithrandir, there may be the cube thing
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know yet, but i'll mess with it
[06:11] <PyroMithrandir> well, that was there, but, like, the desktop pager in the panel didn't work
[06:11] <PyroMithrandir> and I couldn't have different wallpapers on each desktop
[06:13] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i hope thats not the case
[06:13] <PyroMithrandir> yeah, I mean, it was like that back in april or something
[06:13] <draik> For some strange reason, my laptop freezes up after OKing everything, then just shows the bootsplash. Any ideas?
[06:14] <PyroMithrandir> what do you mean "after OKing everything"?
[06:15] <draik> when it shows the bootsplash, items are being shown and on the right side it says OK
[06:15] <osiris> how can i take a screenie from cli
[06:15] <draik> loading drivers and such
[06:16] <|brad|> digital camera? :)
[06:17] <draik> PyroMithrandir, does that make sense?
[06:17] <PyroMithrandir> oh, I see what you are saying
[06:18] <draik> ok
[06:18] <PyroMithrandir> so what is the last thing it says before it freezes?
[06:18] <draik> nothing
[06:18] <draik> it loads everything properly
[06:19] <PyroMithrandir> oh
[06:19] <draik> goes to a black screen with a blinking underscore in the upper left hand and then it goes to an image of the bootsplash screen
[06:19] <unix_infidel> osiris: man setterm
[06:19] <unix_infidel> :)
[06:20] <PyroMithrandir> draik, okay, I think I see what you are saying... the bootsplash it shows then is  the same as when it is loading stuff, right?
[06:20] <draik> right
[06:20] <draik> but without anything being loaded
[06:21] <PyroMithrandir> what happens when you try to switch virtual screens, like ctrl+alt+f7 or something
[06:21] <draik> it is just the image of the bootsplash of Kubuntu in blue with the dark blue bar under it
[06:21] <draik> I can't log in at all
[06:21] <draik> no switching or anything
[06:21] <draik> it freezes there
[06:22] <PyroMithrandir> okay, well, do an alt+f1 when it is booting up and you can get more details
[06:22] <draik> I'm restarting the laptop right now
[06:22] <PyroMithrandir> it'll show you more detailed text when it is loading and it'll maybe show you something that isn't loading properly
[06:22] <unix_infidel> osiris: that work for ya?  why not post the screen?
[06:22] <draik> I did that
[06:23] <draik> correction, I am DOING that
[06:23] <draik> right now that it booted, I pressed ALT+F1
[06:23] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Why not tell him how to do it, import -w osiris.png or scrot -d osiris.png
[06:23] <PyroMithrandir> okay, so it's a black screen with white stuff scrolling and telling you what's loading
[06:23] <draik> it's checking the root file system
[06:23] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Usually best to not just point someone to a damn man page
[06:23] <osiris> one moment
[06:23] <draik> yup
[06:23] <draik> thanks correct
[06:24] <PyroMithrandir> alright, well, give it a minute to see where it freezes
[06:24] <ryedunn> Im having some issues with apt-get, I read this might be a bug but the article was 6mths old. "PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-4 is installed" any ideas how to get around this?
[06:24] <draik> failed
[06:24] <draik> on the check
[06:24] <draik> it just says that it failed
[06:24] <unix_infidel> without needing to use profanity.
[06:24] <draik> all OK
[06:24] <draik> no errors shown
[06:25] <draik> I'm back to the same bootsplash
[06:25] <draik> frozen screen
[06:25] <PyroMithrandir> can you hit alt+f1 again?
[06:25] <draik> yes
[06:25] <PyroMithrandir> anything interesting on it?
[06:25] <lnxkde> thankx boys :)
[06:25] <draik> I'm at the TTY1 login
[06:25] <PyroMithrandir> oh, well, can you log in?
[06:25] <draik> anything interesting that I should look for?
[06:26] <draik> yes, I am logged in via CLI
[06:26] <PyroMithrandir> alright, try to startx
[06:26] <unix_infidel> osiris: you can also use cat if necessary, setterm works just fine though.
[06:26] <draik> If I press ALT+F7, it's just a blinking underscore in the upper left side
[06:26] <draik> type           startx          ?
[06:26] <PyroMithrandir> startx
[06:26] <PyroMithrandir> yeah
[06:27] <draik> ok
[06:27] <draik> here is what I have
[06:27] <draik> Fatal server error:
[06:27] <draik> no screens found
[06:27] <PyroMithrandir> AH!
[06:27] <PyroMithrandir> now we're getting somewher!
[06:27] <PyroMithrandir> somewhere*
[06:27] <PyroMithrandir> okay, so, how familiar are you with the command line?
[06:27] <PyroMithrandir> at all?
[06:28] <draik> XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
[06:28] <draik> after 0 requests (0 knows processed) with 0 events remaining
[06:28] <draik> I'm ok with the CLI
[06:28] <draik> but not great
[06:28] <draik> I feel comfortable dealing with the CLI
[06:28] <draik> if that's what you're asking
[06:29] <PyroMithrandir> yeah, that's good
[06:29] <draik> ok
[06:29] <PyroMithrandir> open up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:29] <draik> one sec
[06:29] <draik> ok
[06:29] <draik> it's opened in nano
[06:30] <PyroMithrandir> okay, have you ever looked at that file before?
[06:30] <PyroMithrandir> do you know how it is supposed to look?
[06:31] <draik> don't think so, but I know it sounds familiar from other places
[06:31] <draik> others refering to it I mean
[06:31] <PyroMithrandir> alright, what kind of video card do you have?
[06:31] <draik> it's a laptop, regular onboard
[06:31] <PyroMithrandir> oh, laptop, right
[06:32] <draik> I recall System Settings > Display had it as "salvage"
[06:32] <PyroMithrandir> well, I was going to ask if you had proprietary nvidia drivers installed or something, but I doubt it now
[06:33] <draik> nope
[06:33] <draik> I do on my desktop, but not laptop
[06:34] <draik> close xorg.conf?
[06:34] <PyroMithrandir> yeah, for now anyway
[06:34] <draik> ok
[06:34] <PyroMithrandir> I can't think of what good it really was to open in the first place now that I think about it ;)
[06:34] <draik> lol
[06:34] <lnxkde> how can I can use mt fat partiton on kubunutu as a user?
[06:34] <lnxkde> my fat partition*
[06:36] <PyroMithrandir> draik, have you successfully booted this laptop to kubuntu in the past?
[06:36] <PyroMithrandir> or is this a new install?
[06:36] <draik> for the past 2 months
[06:36] <draik> I have
[06:36] <draik> I dual boot
[06:36] <draik> no issues till now
[06:36] <PyroMithrandir> okay, did you do anything that might have set this off?
[06:36] <draik> mmmm... nope
[06:36] <draik> I don't play with that file
[06:37] <draik> and I basically use it for IMs and Konversation
[06:37] <draik> nothing really past that
[06:37] <Eeyore_Jr> my fat partition is about 30 pounds
[06:37] <PyroMithrandir> hmm, might have to do with your root file system check not coming up clean... but I don't really know
[06:37] <Eeyore_Jr> it is normally mounted under my belt
[06:37] <draik> minor web browsing, but nothing past 5 webpages
[06:37] <Eeyore_Jr> er, above
[06:37] <osiris> http://wickedtribe.homeip.net/screenshots/k_e17.png
[06:38] <PyroMithrandir> you could check what is in the driver line of the device section of your xorg.conf, and that might be an issue
[06:38] <draik> is there a scan that I can run via CLI to check my root file system?
[06:38] <PyroMithrandir> yeah, fsck
[06:38] <PyroMithrandir> well, fsck /dev/(whatever partition your root is on)
[06:38] <draik> ok
[06:39] <draik> here is what I have
[06:39] <draik> I was close... the driver is savage, not salvage
[06:39] <CVirus> PyroMithrandir: UNMOUNT your partition first before fsck'ing
[06:39] <draik> identifier "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV"
[06:39] <PyroMithrandir> you could try changing it to a different driver, something generic like savage
[06:39] <draik> boardname "savage"
[06:40] <CVirus> draik: ^
[06:40] <unix_infidel> osiris: i thought you needed to take a screen of a console?
[06:40] <CVirus> PyroMithrandir: you shouls have noted him
[06:40] <osiris> no from cli
[06:40] <PyroMithrandir> ha, oh, yeah, listen to what the man says
[06:40] <draik> what others do you have in mind?
[06:40] <osiris> not of cli
[06:40] <CVirus> draik: UNMOUNT your partition first before fsck'ing
[06:40] <PyroMithrandir> I was thinking vesa
[06:40] <osiris> my screenshot module was busted until Hawkwind swooped in FTW!~
[06:40] <CVirus> gtg
[06:40] <draik> unmount my kubuntu partition?
[06:41] <draik> while I'm still on it?
[06:41] <PyroMithrandir> don't bother with that yet
[06:41] <draik> ok
[06:41] <PyroMithrandir> just see what happens if you change "savage" to "vesa"
[06:41] <draik> ok
[06:41] <PyroMithrandir> and try startx again
[06:41] <draik> one sec
[06:42] <unix_infidel> osiris: http://www.tenr.de/junk/invisible_mod.tar.bz2
[06:42] <PyroMithrandir> I don't know if vesa will work in savage's place, but I kinda think it might
[06:42] <unix_infidel> try that gkrellm skin, it might jive better with your desktop.
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> PyroMithrandir, i don't like some of this stuff
[06:42] <PyroMithrandir> Admiral_Chicago, what stuff?
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> xgl
[06:42] <PyroMithrandir> the eye candy?
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> like the desktops
[06:42] <PyroMithrandir> yea I didn't like how multiple desktops was handled
[06:42] <PyroMithrandir> I had to switch back
[06:43] <PyroMithrandir> I mean, if I ever want to show off xgl for the eye candy, I just pop in my kororaa livecd
[06:43] <willzzz> is xgl working stable with nvidia drivers on kubuntu?
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> willzzz, yes
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> i have it on edgy and everyting
[06:44] <willzzz> ah nice
[06:44] <PyroMithrandir> man, I need to get a new monitor
[06:44] <draik> well, I get to the loading of my peripherals and such...
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't like how cluttered my panel is
[06:44] <draik> but it's all screwy
[06:45] <PyroMithrandir> oh yeah, that's cool
[06:45] <PyroMithrandir> oh
[06:45] <PyroMithrandir> that's not
[06:45] <PyroMithrandir> "all screwy" how so?
[06:45] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: That theme isn't even close to being invisible though
[06:46] <draik> It's 4 of the desktops on 1
[06:46] <draik> let me try to see if I can get the image
[06:46] <naegling23> does anyone use/used mythtv?
[06:47] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: i didnt create it, i thought it might look nice on his desktop.
[06:47] <Admiral_Chicago> yea well my panel shows like  items
[06:47] <Admiral_Chicago> i can't deal with it
[06:47] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Heh, I've given him all 191 gkrellm themes there are known to man :)
[06:48] <ryedunn> I did a no no and used debian sources in my source list now I cant use apt-get to work... anyone have any suggestions before I reinstall?
[06:48] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Whoever did that theme should be shot.  Why they named it invisible_mod when it's already a different theme name is really odd
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> ryedunn, fix your sources.list
[06:48] <ryedunn> thats done
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> !easysource
[06:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:48] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: you have a url to the original theme?
[06:48] <ryedunn> but some packages were already installed
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i don't know
[06:49] <unix_infidel> before it was "renamed" and posted on the server?
[06:49] <ryedunn> now when I try to do anything I get a error like "
[06:49] <ryedunn>   libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable
[06:49] <ryedunn>   libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-4 is to be installe
[06:49] <ryedunn> "
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> the reason i like multiple dosktops is that i don't like 10 things in the pannel
[06:49] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: You can get all 191 here, it's on this page: http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/
[06:49] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: I'm not about to search all 191 of my themes
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a command is XGL
[06:50] <naegling23> ryedunn just edit your sources.list as root and delete the sources that shouldnt be there
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> not command but gesture
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> to show everything in thumbnails
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> i did it on accident twice
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> how can i control that
[06:51] <PyroMithrandir> you can get some utility to set all those hotkeys
[06:51] <PyroMithrandir> I don't remember what it is called or anything though
[06:52] <PyroMithrandir> I used one some non-native english speaker wrote ;)
[06:58] <draik> PyroMithrandir, I couldn't get the snapshot file
[06:58] <draik> I tried to restart and see if anything changed
[06:58] <PyroMithrandir> okay, well, I don't know what you are trying to describe
[06:58] <draik> I couldn't go in
[06:59] <draik> so I am using the Live CD on my laptop to get it online
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> PyroMithrandir, don't suppose you know the default port AIm connects to?
[06:59] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: iirc its 5190
[06:59] <PyroMithrandir> oh man, Admiral_Chicago, I used to
[06:59] <PyroMithrandir> yeah
[06:59] <PyroMithrandir> that's it!
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> unix_infidel, there was another one
[06:59] <PyroMithrandir> pretty sure
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> in the high 800s
[06:59] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: i havent been following but a port block isnt effective.
[07:00] <thompa> !flash
[07:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:00] <unix_infidel> you need to do a comprehensive service block as well as a dns block and a port block.
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> unix_infidel, no i'm trying to connect out of my school computer
[07:00] <unix_infidel> among other things, which are available to you if you use a proxy server like, squid.
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> i can't use the HTTP proxy because Gaim is giving me an error.
[07:01] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: just use a web based java client with a proxifier.
[07:01] <unix_infidel> or just use tor.
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> unix_infidel, i'll use ebuddy
[07:01] <unix_infidel> or ssh with naim (eww)
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> ebuddy.com is a good web based IM program
[07:02] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: that's fine on its own, as long as you have an anonymizer or a proxy running in between.
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> unix_infidel, no its just that at times the network won't allow people to connect
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> i installed regular AIM for linux, and i can proxy with that one, but it won't run
[07:03] <draik> permission is denied to my desktop
[07:03] <draik> from the Live CD
[07:03] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: you can also use bitlbee.
[07:04] <unix_infidel> connect to a 3rd party server and use something like irssi.
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> whats that
[07:04] <unix_infidel> !bitlbee
[07:04] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 756 kB
[07:04] <unix_infidel> i'm just giving you options man, there are tons of hacks for a given admin policy setup.
[07:05] <unix_infidel> i dont vouch for wether you'll like the interface or quality of the options.
[07:05] <josef> jucato
[07:05] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll try your bitlbee it sounds good
[07:05] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: word to the wise: its a bit insecure to connect to a 3rd party irc server to gateway to AIM.
[07:06] <unix_infidel> but if you dont mind somone possibly snooping on your manga convo, more power to ya.
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> unix_infidel, i got nothing to hide
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> now to run this dang thing...
[07:07] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: a bit off topic, but everyone's got SOMETHING.
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> unix_infidel, hey its a problem on my OS and i do run kubuntu
[07:08] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: you mis-interpreted what i said....no worries :)
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i think something is wrong with my system
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> adept can't be found
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> when i go to run command
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> brb
[07:10] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: fire up konsole and do `sudo apt-get install bitlbee`
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> no no i installed it but i can't run it
[07:11] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: best to look at the docs on how to use it with your respective irc client.
[07:11] <naegling23> dude, the crocodile hunter just died
[07:12] <naegling23> sorry, off topic
[07:12] <Admiral_Chicago> naegling23, tell me a gator got him!
[07:12] <AZ_AS> sting ray
[07:13] <AZ_AS> sorry, off topic I know
[07:13] <Admiral_Chicago> unix_infidel, oh i'm stupid...man pages
[07:13] <unix_infidel> Admiral_Chicago: that's not necessary, there are tons of how-to's for your respective client out there.
[07:13] <maltaethiron> so sad
[07:13] <glick> naegling23, the crock hunter died?
[07:14] <glick> let me guess killed by a crock?
[07:14] <naegling23> sting ray
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Offtopic guys
[07:14] <Hawkwind> There is a channel for this stuff
[07:14] <naegling23> sorry
[07:14] <maltaethiron> #kubuntu-offtopic   (lets go)
[07:15] <inkboy> :(
[07:17] <inkboy> gargh!
[07:24] <ryedunn> !easysource
[07:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:28] <inkboy> "Could not mount device." "The error reported was:" "mount: cant find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[07:30] <naegling23> inkboy, do you have anything else mounted in /media ?
[07:30] <ryedunn> inkboy sounds like a problem I just ran into
[07:31] <ryedunn> for some reason grub was looking for hda and it was installed in hde
[07:31] <ryedunn> just a guess
[07:31] <neddiW> hello everyone
[07:31] <neddiW> i have this problem with "libgcc1"
[07:32] <neddiW>  sudo apt-get install -f
[07:32] <neddiW> Reading package lists... Done
[07:32] <neddiW> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:32] <neddiW> Correcting dependencies... failed.
[07:33] <neddiW> anyone has an idea :S?
[07:33] <ryedunn> gcc? do you have src in your sources.list?
[07:34] <neddiW> ryedunn, i have no idea, im an newbie
[07:34] <neddiW> running dapper
[07:34] <ryedunn> same here... just installed kubuntu yesterday.. you need to read up on apt-get and your sources.list
[07:34] <ryedunn> start here
[07:35] <ryedunn> !easysources
[07:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:35] <inkboy> i never use linux b4. LOL looks like im noober... currently running live though, and so far i cant access my windows drive :(
[07:36] <ryedunn> you need to have samba installed to do things like that....  not something I dont think you can do from a live CD
[07:36] <ryedunn> but Im not sure.
[07:37] <inkboy> ouch :(
[07:37] <naegling23> inkboy, ah, so when you go to mount it, you have to change the files type to whatever it is, likely ntfs
[07:38] <JRH3K5> !symbolic link
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about symbolic link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <JRH3K5> !symbolic links
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about symbolic links - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <naegling23> and your mount point should be under a folder that you create under /media, so it would be something like /media/windows
[07:38] <JRH3K5> Does anyone know where I can read about making symbolic links from the command line?
[07:39] <SpaceKebab> anybody here upgrade to edgy
[07:39] <naegling23> im afraid, still on dapper
[07:39] <JRH3K5> They made another release?
[07:39] <JRH3K5> /_\
[07:39] <Jucato> no one probably has upgraded yet
[07:39] <SpaceKebab> im afraid of edgy to but still a bit curious
[07:39] <Jucato> because it has not officially been released
[07:39] <JRH3K5> Does anyone know where I can read about making symbolic links from the command line?
[07:39] <Jucato> it's still Alpha
[07:40] <SpaceKebab> ln -s
[07:40] <Jucato> but I do have it installed on a nother partition
[07:40] <naegling23> im having a hard enough time figuring out how to use dapper, I cant throw bugs into the mix
[07:40] <JRH3K5> Ahh, thank you, SpaceKebab
[07:41] <naegling23> when is the official release date?
[07:41] <Jucato> Sometime in October...
[07:41] <SpaceKebab> no problemo
[07:41] <naegling23> oh wow, didnt realize it was so soon, ill upgrade the day its officially released
[07:42] <Jucato> just a word of caution
[07:42] <word> mm
[07:42] <Jucato> Edgy is meant to be "cutting edge", not meant to be as stable as Dapper (is supposed to be)
[07:43] <word> 3 more months until edgy's release right?
[07:43] <Jucato> 2
[07:43] <word> ah, neat.
[07:43] <JRH3K5> I'll read what features it has first
[07:43] <Jucato> prepare to go purple!
[07:43] <word> purple
[07:43] <word> ?
[07:44] <Jucato> new color scheme is purple :-D
[07:44] <Jucato> didn't you guys check out the Knot 2 announcement yet? it has screenshots
[07:44] <willzzz> any problems with xgl in kde?
[07:44] <Jucato> and some new features
[07:45] <word> willzzz: besides kdm not starting right on it's own anymore following one particular tutorial...none.
[07:45] <naegling23> I can run xgl just fine, but trying to change certain system settings can make it crash
[07:45] <naegling23> but tv and games wont work with it, so I usually dont run xgl
[07:45] <SpaceKebab> it does for me
[07:46] <neddiW_> hi
[07:46] <SpaceKebab> i jsut use the nonXgl script
[07:46] <SpaceKebab> fe nonXgl quake3
[07:46] <neddiW_> hi
[07:47] <naegling23> hmmm, I should clarify, I can play games like diablo2 in wine, but they dont go full screen, so its a little difficult, and I end up with problems
[07:47] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:47] <naegling23> but im still a linux newb, so I might just not have figured it out yet
[07:48] <naegling23> the wife also hates xgl for some reason
[07:49] <naegling23> so I have a mythtv question, can anyone offer any help?
[07:49] <thompa> i cant seem to mount windows partition
[07:54] <thompa> mount point /mnt/ntfs-sys does not exist
[07:54] <thompa> !ntfs
[07:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:02] <willzzz> anyone else have problems with kdm and the xgl profile?
[08:02] <willzzz> i run it with the xgl profile and it times out and doesn't do anything
[08:03] <word> willzzz: meaning it ends up going to console login?
[08:03] <willzzz> no it there's nothign on the screen
[08:03] <willzzz> loads nothing, fails and times out and reloads kdm back to login screen
[08:03] <willzzz> basically it fails
[08:04] <word> meh that's xgl specific sounds like
[08:07] <enzo> How can I change my computer's IP address?
[08:08] <enzo> Jucato, you can whistle words???
[08:08] <Jucato> lol
[08:08] <Jucato> I've always wondered what that meant in English...
[08:08] <enzo> ???
[08:09] <enzo> what what meant?
[08:09] <Jucato> "esta ausente"
[08:09] <enzo> which means?
 I've always wondered what that meant in English... <-----
[08:09] <enzo> esta means "is"
[08:10] <enzo> ausente means... ummm...
[08:10] <Jucato> oh nvm...
[08:10] <Jucato> let's look for someone who knows about IP's
[08:10] <enzo> IP, UP, we all P for PC
[08:10] <Jucato> lol
[08:10] <enzo> sorry
[08:10] <enzo> bash it if you'd like
[08:11] <enzo> Im just being a little special right ow
[08:11] <enzo> *now
[08:12] <enzo> so...
[08:12] <enzo> anybody know about IPs?
[08:12] <inkboy> can i know how do i change my user so i have admin rights? i manage to mount my drives, but it says i don have to rights to access it :(
[08:12] <enzo> chmod 777 filename
[08:12] <Jucato> enzo: no
[08:13] <unix_infidel> you dont have to change perms on the physical device to give the user access.
[08:13] <Jucato> inkboy: you have to run the command with sudo if you're mounting from the command line
[08:13] <enzo> well, it's not chown, THAT I know
[08:13] <Jucato> enzo: still bad...
[08:13] <unix_infidel> try using the proper fstab / mount flags.
[08:13] <unix_infidel> that is best.
[08:13] <Jucato> enzo: that practically giving everyone read,write, and execute permissions
[08:13] <enzo> yeah
[08:13] <enzo> I know
[08:14] <Jucato> ah yes... you're being special :-D
[08:14] <flaccid> i have a server install w/ ssh only. where is the network scripts.. i need to set up static ip
[08:15] <enzo> I need to change my IP
[08:15] <enzo> I have it on a network and I need to change my IP
[08:15] <Jucato> oh there, now we have 2 people asking about IP's...
[08:15] <SpAwN> anyone in here using ipkungfu?
[08:16] <patrick> anyone know a quick terminal cammond to give you the current x11 screen resolution? :o
[08:16] <enzo> ipkungfu? Does that beat up everyone on the network?
[08:16] <willzzz> anyone here know why kdm doesn't like the startxgl.sh script?
[08:16] <SpAwN> hehe
[08:16] <SpAwN> itsa firewall
[08:16] <SpaceKebab> anyone here know how to use the daap feature in the new 1.4.2 amarok?
[08:16] <enzo> I think I liked my def. better... would be VERY useful, too
[08:16] <SpaceKebab> i cant seem to get it to show up anywhere
[08:17] <Hobbsee> flaccid: in /etc/network/interfaces.  see man interfaces
[08:17] <enzo> Hobbsee, How goes it?
[08:17] <Hobbsee> enzo: it goes
[08:17] <enzo> The packages coming along nicely?
[08:18] <Jucato> enzo: better ask about your problem while she's still here :-D
[08:18] <enzo> or are you still swatting them down with the broom stick?
[08:18] <enzo> Hobbsee, would you know how I can change my network IP on my laptop?
[08:18] <enzo> It got bumped up a number
[08:19] <enzo> I need to get it back down so that my network shares work properly
[08:19] <enzo> hmmm
[08:19] <enzo> I think I will go power-cycle my router
[08:19] <KCmoore> Hey kde playaz!
[08:20] <flaccid> thanks
[08:20] <KCmoore> Konqueror has really improved so much in the past year.
[08:20] <KCmoore> Maybe its me comparing Kubuntu and Mandriva..
[08:22] <enzo_> I need to really get off this network
[08:22] <enzo_> brb
[08:22] <naegling23> does anyone know where I can get libmtp from a repository?
[08:23] <Hobbsee> enzo_: ish.  havent done any for a while
[08:23] <Hobbsee> !info libmtp
[08:23] <ubotu> Package libmtp does not exist in any distro I know
[08:23] <Hobbsee> !mythtv
[08:23] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[08:23] <Hobbsee> naegling23: ^
[08:23] <Hobbsee> enzo_: ah, static ip?  not sure
[08:23] <dan__> what is fedora-core whats the difference between that and kubunu
[08:24] <dan__> kubuntu*
[08:24] <naegling23> hmmm, thats what I was afraid of, I cant get it installed manually cause im a noob
[08:25] <Jucato> naegling23: take it as the perfect oppurtunity to learn and overcome your newbie-ness :-D
[08:25] <flaccid> how can i add another user to the admin group to sudo ?
[08:26] <Jucato> flaccid: in System Settings > Users & Gropus > Groups tab?
[08:26] <naegling23> jucato, Ive been trying to manually install it for a few days now, next step...put fist through monitor
[08:26] <flaccid> Jucato: by cli?
[08:26] <Jucato> aah
[08:26] <flaccid> sorry server install
[08:26] <Jucato> naegling23: have you tried the forums? http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net
[08:28] <Jucato> flaccid: something like "sudo adduser <user> admin"? I'm not 100% sure though
[08:28] <flaccid> wouldn't that add a new user
[08:28] <Jucato> flaccid: from the man page: "If called with two non-option arguments, adduser will add an existing user to an existing group."
[08:29] <naegling23> yea, ive been posting for a week in ubuntuforums, Im yet to get a reply, I'll try again tommorrow I guess
[08:29] <flaccid> oh thanks
[08:29] <Jucato> but like I said, not 100% sure...
[08:29] <dan__> whats the difference between kubuntu and fedora cor
[08:29] <flaccid> hehe i can't sudo yet
[08:30] <Jucato> flaccid: hm... you have a root account I guess?
[08:30] <dan__> whats the difference between kubuntu and fedora core*
[08:30] <flaccid> sweet that worked
[08:31] <TehKewl1> !xvid
[08:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <Jucato> dan__: they're both Linux distributions. but they use different package management systems. Kubuntu uses the DEB (Debian Package Manager) and Fedora Core uses RPM (RedHat Package Manager)
[08:31] <flaccid> different accoutn
[08:31] <Jucato> flaccid: :-D
[08:31] <TehKewl1> how do I fix my network setup
[08:31] <naegling23> alright, gnight everyone, I have to let you know, this is the first time I've tried for help in the irc channels, and It has been a lot more successful than the forums, thanks for the help
[08:31] <flaccid> cheers bruz
[08:31] <TehKewl1> it may be the PCMCIA card
[08:32] <Jucato> dan__: they also develop or do things differently. but basically they're still Linux so the basic things/commands apply
[08:32] <dan__> jucato: what do you think is better
[08:32] <TehKewl1> setup, but it starts up, loads up to loading network connections and then hangs
[08:32] <Jucato> dan__: you're asking me, in a #kubuntu forum? :-D
[08:33] <Jucato> dan__: I haven't fully tried Fedora Core for more than a few minutes, so I'm not really fit to say which one is better
[08:33] <Jucato> dan__: in the end, it's really about what YOU think, and what YOU prefer.
[08:33] <flaccid> Jucato: any doco/web page on setting static ip in /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:34] <Jucato> flaccid: err... sorry, don't know much about IP's...
[08:34] <dan__> jucato: ok thanks im just a noobie to linux and it seems confusing im used to window but im sick of the crap windows gives me
[08:34] <Jellegant> does XGL still not work in Kubuntu?
[08:34] <SpaceKebab> always did for me
[08:34] <SpaceKebab> im usnig xgl right now
[08:34] <SpaceKebab> therse a couple of different howtos
[08:34] <flaccid> ok
[08:34] <SpaceKebab> all that work pretty well for me
[08:34] <Jellegant> I'm googling it.
[08:34] <TehKewl1> poor old steve irwin...
[08:35] <Jucato> dan__: it's really confusing at first, because it's something new, something you're not used to. but you'll learn eventually
[08:35] <dan__> its just a wierd way to get software on here
[08:36] <Jucato> dan__: you also have to prepare yourself for more choices than you had in Windows. There's Fedora Core, Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Xubuntu, openSUSE, MEPIS, KNOPPIX, Arch Linux, etc.
[08:36] <TehKewl1> hehe, I made Kubuntu look like windows 2000
[08:36] <Jucato> it's weird, from a Windows point of view. But once you get used to it, it's safer and better in the long run
[08:36] <josef> hai everybody
[08:36] <Jucato> eewww.... lol
[08:36] <josef> hello jucato
[08:37] <Jucato> hi josef!
[08:37] <TehKewl1> I never really hated t ithe look, just the operating system behind
[08:37] <flaccid> hmm what does auto eth0 do in /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:37] <SpaceKebab> lan cable
[08:37] <Jellegant> lol
[08:37] <Jellegant> yep,
[08:38] <TehKewl1> anyway, can someone tell me how to get my network settings back the way they were?
[08:38] <TehKewl1> because I have to boot in windows to use my wireless at the moment
[08:38] <josef> jucato yesterday i installed kubuntu on my friends PC without internetacces so where can i download packages to install on a PC
[08:39] <flaccid> right i found the man entry
[08:39] <Jucato> josef: so there's no internet access on that PC even now?
[08:39] <josef> yes its to bad him
[08:40] <Jucato> hm..
[08:40] <Jucato> you can download packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:40] <Jucato> the only problem is
[08:40] <secleinteer> hi, is there any way to make the desktop switcher only show the apps in the taskbar for the apps i want in that virtual desktop?
[08:40] <secleinteer> instead of the taskbar being universal?
[08:40] <Jucato> if you install packages (.deb), it won't install other packages that it needs...
[08:41] <Jucato> secleinteer: right-click on the Panel, choose Configure Panel, then in the Taskbar options
[08:41] <Jucato> uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"
[08:41] <Jucato> like that?
[08:41] <josef> jucato I see what you mean
[08:41] <secleinteer> thx a lot, jucato
[08:41] <secleinteer> been wondering about that for a while now
[08:42] <Jucato> secleinteer:  btw, the desktop switcher is different from the taskbar. just so you won't get confused
[08:42] <josef> jucato it will be difficult right
[08:42] <secleinteer> what do you mean?
[08:42] <dan__> can sombody give me a walkthrough on downloading and installing frostwire or limewire
[08:42] <Jucato> josef: not really, if you know what will be needed to be installed
[08:43] <Jucato> secleinteer: desktop switcher are the boxes where you can switch to Desktop 1, 2,3, 4
[08:43] <secleinteer> yeah
[08:43] <Jucato> secleinteer: taskbar is the part of the panel which shows the titles of opened windows
[08:43] <secleinteer> k
[08:43] <secleinteer> that's what i thought you meant, wasn't sure ;)
[08:44] <secleinteer> as in, taskbar is an applet in the panel, right?
[08:44] <secleinteer> not the whole thing
[08:44] <flaccid> w0a i just restarted networking through ssh and i didn't get kicked off. ubuntu that rox..
[08:44] <secleinteer> like it is in windoze
[08:44] <Jucato> yep. desktop pager/switcher is also an applet
[08:44] <secleinteer> yeah
[08:44] <secleinteer> thx again for the help
[08:44] <Jucato> sure
[08:49] <esteban_> hola
[08:49] <dan__> can sombody give me a walkthrough on downloading and installing frostwire or limewire
[08:49] <flaccid> !limewire
[08:49] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[08:49] <esteban_> does anybody speaks spanish here
[08:49] <flaccid> !frostwire
[08:49] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:50] <miquel> esteban, yo
[08:50] <esteban_> uf..thanks god
[08:50] <miquel> que quieres?
[08:50] <esteban_> necesito ayuda llevo un dia on esta pavada
[08:50] <miquel> que cliente usas?
[08:50] <miquel> yo no entiendo mucho tampoco xD
[08:50] <esteban_> como se instalan programas en kubuntu..te daras cuenta que vengo del windows
[08:50] <Jucato> !es
[08:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:50] <miquel> ostia, tu tambien estas con el linux?
[08:50] <martin_> can anyone tell me how to mount my internal hd, hda1 in kubuntu (noob)
[08:51] <miquel> yo ayer me instale el ubuntu xD
[08:51] <esteban_> gracias ubotu
[08:51] <esteban_> jaja..yo tambien..de donde eres miguel?
[08:51] <miquel> mira, te explico, ayer encontr un manual y ya lo domino muy biien
[08:51] <miquel> catalunya
[08:51] <esteban_> yo de argentina...
[08:51] <miquel> a ver...
[08:51] <miquel> mejor por msn, ok?
[08:52] <miquel> mygoku_5@hotmail.com
[08:52] <miquel> ahora me conecto
[08:52] <obf213> it sucks that amarok wont let you index m4a files is there anyway to convert theme to mp3
[08:52] <obf213> i tried to change tghe extgension manually but hat like currupts the file once you changed the track info
[08:53] <obf213> me parece que todos los expertos estan durmiendo.
[08:54] <martin_> no-one knows how to mount /hda1 ? help noob...
[08:55] <KCmoore> Ok
[08:55] <KCmoore> Go into konsole
[08:55] <KCmoore> Type sudo apt-get moo
[08:56] <Jucato> KCmoore: why do you keep on saying that?
[08:56] <KCmoore> ?
[08:56] <KCmoore> I just want to see if he wil ltry it.
[08:56] <KCmoore> The best is telling windows Lusers to open command prompt and type: del *.*
[08:56] <Jucato> it's not very nice, you know. people come in here asking for help. not to be tested
[08:56] <josef> jucato how can i install wine in my knbuntu
[08:57] <KCmoore> Synaptic package manager?
[08:57] <Jucato> josef: you can use the version of wine that's available in our repositories
[08:57] <KCmoore> apt-get wine?
[08:57] <martin_> any time I go into Konsole and type a sudo command, it freezes on password...
[08:57] <Jucato> KCmoore: Kubuntu doesn't have Synaptic installed by default, btw
[08:57] <KCmoore> Ohhh!
[08:57] <KCmoore> That makes sense
[08:57] <KCmoore> I've been using synaptic package manager
[08:57] <Jucato> martin_: it doesn't freeze, it just doesn't display what you're typing
[08:57] <TehKewl1> you guys tried google earth 4 beta?
[08:57] <martin_> btw I actually got wine installed using synaptic !!
[08:57] <josef> should i open again the manage repos again
[08:57] <martin_> bleed
[08:58] <Jucato> josef: if you have universe enabled, no need to do that
[08:58] <Jucato> KCmoore: it's not installed by default. doesn't mean you can't install it
[08:58] <josef> wait i have to check it
[08:58] <KCmoore> Obviously
[08:59] <martin_> did the moo part :)
[08:59] <KCmoore> LOL
[09:00] <josef> jucato its enabled and i should go to the addremove panel right
[09:00] <Jucato> another one falls prey to KCmoore's moo powers...
[09:00] <KCmoore> Heheh
[09:00] <Jucato> josef: if Adept is already open, you can just install wine from there
[09:01] <KCmoore> I love telling the kids at school to open command prompt and type del *,*
[09:01] <josef> Ok
[09:01] <Jucato> tsk tsk tsk... you are evil... :-D
[09:01] <josef> jucato not from the addremove right
[09:01] <Jucato> josef: I'm not sure that it will show up there
[09:01] <martin_> ok, now I know about the why it freezes on password, I'll try internet info I found. I got synaptic and wine OK btw, not bad for a total noob, now just need windows hd mounting!
[09:01] <josef> Ok
[09:02] <Jucato> well, it doesn't really freeze...
[09:02] <Jucato> BASH (the command line) is really just set not to echo (that is, display) what you are typing
[09:03] <KCmoore> :(
[09:04] <KCmoore> KDE themes are the biggest wank
[09:04] <Jucato> ??
[09:04] <KCmoore> Just so annoying to install
[09:04] <Jucato> what theme?
[09:05] <KCmoore> I guess I'm used to gnome and xfce themes
[09:05] <KCmoore> dekorator
[09:05] <KCmoore> Like how all the themes are packages that need to be installed
[09:05] <Jucato> er.. you have to install the dekorator engine first, then installing dekorator themes are a snap
[09:05] <Jucato> no, actually, you're installing a new window decoration engine, not just a theme
[09:06] <KCmoore> Oh ok
[09:06] <KCmoore> I'm a kde n00b
[09:06] <Jucato> it's easy in GNOME because it's simply using the Metacity window decoration engine, and you're just adding themes
[09:06] <KCmoore> Yeah, I know
[09:06] <KCmoore> Gnome isn't that bad.
[09:06] <Jucato> It's not bad at all
[09:06] <KCmoore> I chose kde because I knew nothing about it.
[09:06] <Jucato> heh
[09:06] <KCmoore> THey are both way better than xfce though
[09:07] <josef> jucato I got wine installed yet  but is not comming out on the K menu
[09:07] <Jucato> Xfce getting better. but Xfce beats them both in one aspect: lightweight
[09:07] <KCmoore> Hehe
[09:07] <Jucato> josef: it really doesn't appear in K Menu
[09:07] <KCmoore> I have a partition on my crappy computer
[09:07] <Jucato> you use wine like this: "wine <.exe file>" (without the quotes)
[09:07] <josef> jucato yes it doesnt appear at all
[09:08] <KCmoore> Kids at my school: Pffft you NEED windows!
[09:08] <KCmoore> Kids at my school: Ubuntu? More like GAYBUNTU!!!!!
[09:08] <Jucato> josef: I meant that it doesn't really appear in K Menu, and it shouldn't, or it would be useless in the K Menu
[09:08] <Jucato> Show them XGL/Compiz, and let's see who's who. :-D
[09:09] <KCmoore> Heh, yeah
[09:09] <josef> jucato so I cant not use it  the wine
[09:09] <KCmoore> Even kde without that kicks ass.
[09:09] <Jucato> josef: scroll up, I said how to use wine
[09:09] <dan__> it keep saying my disc is full and i cant download anything HELP
[09:09] <KCmoore> Gah
[09:10] <josef> jucato sorry you mean wine.exe li
[09:10] <KCmoore> I wish they made Adium open source and someone compiled it for ubuntu
[09:10] <Jucato> josef: no
[09:10] <Jucato> josef: for example, you have a Windows program like foo.exe. you go to the directory where foo.exe is located, then type "wine foo.exe"
[09:10] <KCmoore> I really hate the look of gaim
[09:11] <Diuneimama> Jucato is that safe to fetch updates that given from adept updater ????????
[09:11] <Jucato> Diuneimama: yes. it means that there are updates available for your computer
[09:11] <josef> jucato ooh you mean from the terminal go to folder with file.exe
[09:11] <Jucato> Diuneimama: it's the same as doing "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" in the command line
[09:11] <dan__> how do i free up memory on my hard drive
[09:11] <KCmoore> delete stuff
[09:11] <Diuneimama> Jucato those update wont break package right?
[09:12] <Jucato> josef: yes, but actually you can also do it in Konqueror. Right click on the program then choose Open With... the type "wine"
[09:12] <Hobbsee> Diuneimama: shouldnt do
[09:12] <Jucato> Diuneimama: no it shouldn't
[09:12] <Jucato> darn she beat me to it!
[09:12] <Diuneimama> ok thanks :)
[09:12] <Diuneimama> oh lol
[09:12] <Diuneimama> yea
[09:12] <Jucato> Diuneimama: but it will warn you if something will break. but it usually doesn't
[09:12] <josef> jucato ok wait this is new for me....
[09:12] <KCmoore> Hey
[09:12] <KCmoore> Whats the best MSN client for linux
[09:12] <Diuneimama> ok Jucato
[09:12] <Jucato> josef: yep, I'm waiting :-D
[09:13] <Diuneimama> TQ
[09:13] <KCmoore> ?
[09:13] <flaccid> KCmoore: kopete imho
[09:13] <Jucato> KCmoore: GAIM, Kopete, aMSN, take your pick...
[09:13] <KCmoore> awww
[09:13] <AZ_AS> kopete's multiprotocol, right?
[09:13] <Diuneimama> aMsn
[09:13] <Jucato> in Linux, "best" = "what works for you"
[09:13] <Jucato> AZ_AS: yes. I can even connect to Google Talk
[09:14] <KCmoore> I've been using tmsnc terminal based msn client
[09:14] <AZ_AS> sweet
[09:14] <Diuneimama> AZ_AS if u use hotmail or msn i suggest u get aMSN
[09:14] <KCmoore> But now I saw Adium on my friends mac
[09:14] <Jucato> if you don't want to get aMSN, you can still use Kopete for MSN
[09:14] <Jucato> I'm connected right now to Yahoo, MSN, and Google...
[09:14] <KCmoore> Kopete looks pretty cool
[09:15] <josef> Jucato I got it....  thanks hehehehe I have to go to make my friends jalous about my kubuntu....
[09:15] <Jucato> josef: ehehe!
[09:16] <josef> Jucato great isnt linux... bye
[09:16] <Jucato> bye!
[09:17] <KCmoore> Jucato you are one 1337 haxxor
[09:17] <Jucato> nah... I'm just a regular user trying to help :-D
[09:18] <KCmoore> Hey
[09:18] <KCmoore> I've been using Amarok Fast Forward in xubuntu
[09:18] <KCmoore> But for some reason its changed when I installed kde
[09:18] <KCmoore> To the normal amarok
[09:19] <Jucato> what do you mean "normal" Amarok?
[09:19] <KCmoore> Well
[09:19] <Jucato> Amarok "Fast Forward" is just a codename, like Dapper Drake is the codename for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[09:19] <KCmoore> Oh ok
[09:19] <KCmoore> Well, I had the fast forwards version before
[09:20] <KCmoore> Is it any different to the current?
[09:20] <Jucato> they're just titles for the versions.
[09:20] <KCmoore> Ok
[09:20] <Jucato> KCmoore: what's the amarok version installed now?
[09:20] <Jucato> on your system?
[09:21] <KCmoore> Amarok 1.4.3
[09:21] <Jucato> whoa! you're even more advanced than what's available in Kubuntu
[09:21] <KCmoore> whm
[09:21] <KCmoore> that three was supposed to be a 2
[09:21] <Techboy> hello
[09:22] <Jucato> ehehe!
[09:22] <Jucato> KCmoore: then you're definitely using Amarok "Fast Forward"
[09:22] <KCmoore> yay!
[09:22] <KCmoore> Dance with me Jucato
[09:22] <Jucato> lol
[09:22] <Jucato> I have 2 left feet
[09:22] <Jucato> er.. make that 3 :-0D
[09:22] <Techboy> wow are eveeryoone new kubuntu users?/
[09:23] <KCmoore> Loveleh!
[09:23] <Jucato> not really new :D
[09:23] <KCmoore> I nearly had to dance at the formal
[09:23] <Techboy> pleaase excuse the key repeaaats im workiiing off the cd and cannnnt change the keyboard settings
[09:24] <KCmoore> LOLZORD!
[09:24] <AZ_AS> I'm new...on/off since maybe 3-4 days so far although admittedly still running Windows but I'm trying to learn
[09:25] <gafa> hello
[09:25] <Techboy> heeellooo
[09:25] <Jucato> hiiiiiii! :-D
[09:25] <gafa> any one from brazil?
[09:25] <Techboy> wwhhhhooooaaaa
[09:25] <AZ_AS> there was one here, gafa..josef
[09:26] <Jucato> !br
[09:26] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:26] <gafa> thak you ubotu...
[09:26] <Techboy> ok cool what do ya know the settings did take effect
[09:27] <shriram> hey guys! how do i get ncrypt for kubuntu?
[09:27] <Techboy> ya az i have breazy installed and am impressed with the new kde ver
[09:28] <shriram> Hawkwind: does kubuntu have ncrypt in its repo?
[09:28] <Jucato> kgpg?
[09:28] <Techboy> have you looked in the add remove program section?
[09:28] <shriram> Jucato: okie
[09:28] <Techboy> thats what i call it lol
[09:28] <shriram> Jucato: i need ncrypt
[09:28] <Jucato> ah
[09:30] <Techboy> i just did a search for that app in the pckage manager it didnt come up with anything
[09:30] <Jucato> Techboy: which app?
[09:30] <Techboy> but dont dispar you may need to add repositories
[09:30] <Techboy> ncrypt
[09:31] <Jucato> there's no "ncrypt" in Kubuntu, I think
[09:31] <Jucato> !ncrypt
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <Techboy> yeah i was trying to help shriam out
[09:32] <Jucato> shriram: you checked here? http://ncrypt.sourceforge.net/
[09:32] <Jucato> there's no .deb package, but you can download the source code
[09:32] <KCmoore> katapult doesn't work with amarok!
[09:33] <Jucato> KCmoore: yep. the bug has been filed
[09:33] <shriram> Jucato: yeah.. doing that now . thanks mate :)
[09:33] <KCmoore> control + alt + arrowkey doesn't work in kde!!!
[09:33] <Diuneimama> Jucato where i should add this line to get the same ip whenever reboots > supersede domain-name-servers 4.2.2.1;
[09:33] <Jucato> what do you expect ctrl+alt+arrow key to do?
[09:33] <Techboy> i love this new cd ver hey does anyone know if easyubuntu is available for 64bit or automatix?
[09:34] <Jucato> Techboy: better ask them or go to their site...
[09:34] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[09:34] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:34] <Jucato> Diuneimama: err... I know little about IP's... better ask Hobbsee if she's here...
[09:35] <Techboy> thanks
[09:35] <Diuneimama> Hobbsee u there? :)
[09:35] <KCmoore> control + alt + arrowkey doesn't work in kde!!!\
[09:35] <KCmoore> !samba
[09:35] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:35] <KCmoore> Does Samba work with mac?
[09:36] <KCmoore> !kandy
[09:36] <ubotu> kandy: KDE mobile phone utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 114 kB, installed size 432 kB
[09:36] <Jucato> KCmoore: what are you trying to do with ctrl+alt+arrow key???
[09:36] <KCmoore> Change between multiple desktops
[09:36] <Jucato> try setting it up first or check what KDE has by default
[09:36] <Jucato> this isn't GNOME you know :-D
[09:37] <KCmoore> Ehh!
[09:37] <KCmoore> Or xfce!
[09:37] <Jucato> K Menu > System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:37] <KCmoore> I don't know how to set it up!
[09:37] <KCmoore> k thanks
[09:37] <Hobbsee> Diuneimama: sort of
[09:37] <Jucato> KCmoore: just don't click on the "Command Shortcuts" tab if you're using KDE 3.5.4
[09:38] <Hobbsee> Diuneimama: /etc/network/interfaces is where all the network config stuff goes
[09:38] <iragaines> hey, i'm having trouble with kde starting up
[09:38] <iragaines> i cant even log in, i get a black screen after correct password
[09:38] <iragaines> and then dumped back to the kubuntu login screen
[09:38] <Diuneimama> where should i put this line "supersede domain-name-servers 4.2.2.1;" in "/etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf"
[09:42] <cvt|expert> k3b still says i don't have permission to burn files from my external hd; how do i fix this?
[09:42] <mkquist_> anyone know how to reinstall terminal, or why it would not work?
[09:43] <Jucato> mkquist_: what do you mean it doesn't work?
[09:43] <mkquist_> i mean it looks like its gonna open the just sits there no cusor
[09:43] <Jucato> Konsole?
[09:44] <the-erm> You sure it's open, just no PS1 ?
[09:44] <Healot> i just replace libxine-extracodecs with my self-packaged libxine... well, nothing brake after i fix a few packages to replace
[09:44] <Jucato> I must have missed something....
[09:44] <mkquist_> jucato - im out of x how do i restart it?
[09:44] <mkquist_> jucato - w/o restarting machine
[09:44] <Jucato> mkquist_: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:45] <mkquist_> jucato - ty, restarted kde now
[09:49] <mkquist_> jucato - maybe some help on apt-get?
[09:49] <Diuneimama> Jucato Hobsee is not there :(
[09:49] <Jucato> Diuneimama: she disappeared...
[09:49] <Jucato> mkquist_: what kind of help?
[09:50] <Diuneimama> Jucato so can u help me with the ip thingy?
[09:50] <Jucato> Diuneimama: sorry, I can't....
[09:50] <Diuneimama> XD
[09:50] <Diuneimama> okies
[09:50] <Diuneimama> :(
[09:51] <mkquist_> jucato -seems not be be working gives error of e:invalid record in the prferences file , no package header
[09:51] <Diuneimama> buz can u help me with ip?
[09:52] <Jucato> mkquist_: what is giving you that error? apt-get?
[09:52] <mkquist_> jucato - yes
[09:52] <buz> Diuneimama: i only use dhcp
[09:52] <Jucato> mkquist_: what are you trying to do with apt-get?
[09:52] <mkquist_> jucato - reinstall terminal at the mo
[09:53] <Diuneimama> buz : its about change ip whenever its reboot its still get the same ip
[09:53] <Diuneimama> about supersede domain-name-servers 4.2.2.1;
[09:53] <Jucato> mkquist_: are you in KDE right now, or in the command line?
[09:53] <mkquist_> jucato - kde, tried got same a command line too
[09:53] <mkquist_> in command line*
[09:53] <Diuneimama> buz :  its under /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[09:54] <buz> you cant control that in general
[09:54] <Jucato> mkquist_: what happens when you press Alt+F2 and type in "konsole"?
[09:54] <buz> the dhcp server decides what ip you get, not your client
[09:54] <mkquist_> jucato - konsole works, just tried it there and got same result
[09:55] <mkquist_> of e: invalid record in the preferences file, no package header
[09:55] <Diuneimama> buz : but someone told me to add supersede domain-name-servers 4.2.2.1; in the note of /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[09:55] <Jucato> mkquist_: ok... I'm confused, you said you're trying to reinstall terminal? but Konsole is a terminal
[09:55] <Diuneimama> buz : so whenever i reboot, the ip will be the same
[09:55] <mkquist_> well when i run the terminal it doesnt work, but konsole comes up fine..?
[09:55] <buz> never tried something like that
[09:56] <Diuneimama> :(
[09:56] <Diuneimama> ok
[09:56] <mkquist_> jucato, ok forget that last line, seems ok now
[09:56] <mkquist_> jucato - hmmm
[09:56] <Jucato> mkquist_: what terminal are you trying to run? Konsole is the KDE terminal
[09:57] <mkquist_> jucato - yep, runs now...  not sure what that was about, just opened a box but didnt give command line or anything just black box, but, works now
[09:57] <Diuneimama> mkquist_ : u doing apt-get ?
[09:57] <Jucato> ok...
[09:58] <mkquist_> was trying, but dont seem to need it now
[09:59] <mkquist_> i guess the real problem is that i cant start gnome only kde, the other was just an offshoot of that, hehe
[09:59] <Jucato> mkquist_: you were trying to run gnome-terminal?
[10:01] <iragaines> could anyone tell me why i might get a black screen after logging in?
[10:01] <mkquist_> i was trying to
[10:02] <Diuneimama> iragaines : when u login in?
[10:03] <iragaines> i boot to the kubuntu login screen and when i log in, it goes to a black screen for a few seconds and then goes back to the login screen
[10:03] <mkquist_> well dam - apt-get appears to be buggered still
[10:03] <Diuneimama> iragaines:  no text at all?
[10:04] <iragaines> no, i dont get any text
[10:04] <mkquist_> jucato - do you know why id get 'e: invalid record in the preferences file, no package header' when i try to apt-get
[10:04] <InuDuelist> Mmm.
[10:04] <InuDuelist> Back from weekend trip and such.
[10:04] <Jucato> mkquist_: hmm...
[10:04] <Jucato> hi InuDuelist
[10:04] <InuDuelist> Time to upgrade to Firefox 2.0 Beta 2.
[10:05] <Jucato> upgrade? or compile?
[10:05] <InuDuelist> I don't care.
[10:05] <InuDuelist> Compile.
[10:05] <Diuneimama> iragaines : sorry i dunno wats happen to ur com , haven tried that be4 :( u may ask others
[10:05] <iragaines> :/
[10:05] <Diuneimama> :(
[10:05] <iragaines> the worst bit is that i don't think i changed anything
[10:05] <InuDuelist> http://www.andrewrussellstudios.com/ss3/forums/index.php?topic=1492.0
[10:05] <Jucato> mkquist_: sorry, no idea. still looking for what that preferences file is
[10:05] <InuDuelist> There.
[10:05] <InuDuelist> Take that.
[10:05] <iragaines> seems to have come out of nowhere
[10:06] <InuDuelist> I summarized several features of it.
[10:06] <InuDuelist> With screenshots.
[10:06] <mkquist_> jucato - think i just nailed it, one the the lines was causing probs, commented it out and away i goooo... thanx tho
[10:06] <Jucato> mkquist_: ok then. nice to hear that
[10:07] <Jucato> InuDuelist: yeah I've heard/seen some of those features :-D
[10:07] <mkquist_> or maybe not..lol
[10:07] <mkquist_> happened again, but im thinking it the list
[10:07] <Jucato> best one I like would be the new theme and spell check
[10:07] <Jucato> mkquist_: which list?
[10:07] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : it looks cool :)
[10:08] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: I like it.
[10:08] <InuDuelist> 99%'d.
[10:08] <InuDuelist> Yay.
[10:08] <InuDuelist> Compiling time.
[10:08] <InuDuelist> Wait, boo.
[10:08] <InuDuelist> Compiling time.
[10:09] <mkquist> jucato - menu.list
[10:09] <mkquist> jucato - sry on two machines here
[10:09] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : how do I install it?
[10:09] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : by source or linux?
[10:09] <Jucato> mkquist: er.. why would you look at that list? it has nothing to do with apt
[10:10] <InuDuelist> Linux.
[10:10] <InuDuelist> Hm...
[10:10] <InuDuelist> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:10] <InuDuelist> Xlib: No protocol specified
[10:10] <InuDuelist> (firefox-bin:5617): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[10:10] <mkquist> jucato - thought it provided repositories for apt-get.. no?
[10:10] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : wat happen ?
[10:10] <Jucato> mkquist: no, not that. I think you mean sources.list
[10:10] <InuDuelist> ...
[10:10] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: Wait.
[10:10] <mkquist> sry yes i do
[10:10] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : broken package
[10:10] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist :  okie
[10:10] <mkquist> jucato - yes sry
[10:10] <Jucato> mkquist: could you check if you have a file named "preferences" in /etc/apt/ ?
[10:10] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: Impossible.
[10:11] <mkquist> jucato -lets see
[10:11] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : hmm
[10:11] <aquablu> im having dramas trying to play an avi file on kubuntu 6.06
[10:11] <aquablu> what is a good movie player to use
[10:11] <mkquist> jucato - yep, but appears to be empty
[10:12] <InuDuelist> There we go.
[10:12] <InuDuelist> I was in root, and had to leave it.
[10:12] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : nice :) so it work now?
[10:12] <InuDuelist> Mmm.
[10:12] <InuDuelist> Shiny.
[10:12] <Jucato> mkquist: hm... try to "hide" it: "sudo mv /etc/apt/preferences /etc/apt/.preferences"
[10:12] <InuDuelist> Yes.
[10:12] <InuDuelist> It works.
[10:12] <InuDuelist> Let's take a Linux screenshot, now.
[10:13] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : :0
[10:13] <InuDuelist> Those in the link I gave were Windows screenshots.
[10:13] <Jucato> hehe
[10:13] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : hmm. which way is to install is more easy for noob
[10:13] <mkquist> jucato - k
[10:13] <InuDuelist> Ooh.
[10:14] <InuDuelist> Built-in Session manager. I thought it was just restore-crash.
[10:14] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: It's easy.
[10:14] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : I am a noob :P
[10:14] <InuDuelist> Just download the "Linux" link.
[10:14] <mkquist> jucato- i think i cause this last nite while trying to install wine,
[10:14] <mkquist> jucato -do you have that file?
[10:14] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : ok, can u teach me the following steps
[10:14] <Jucato> mkquist: the /etc/apt/preferences? no I don't have one
[10:14] <InuDuelist> Only if you promise me that you'll never use "u" in place of "you" in any of our conversations ever again.
[10:14] <mkquist> jucato - i think i made it to get the right wine install, thats whats buggering it
[10:15] <Jucato> mkquist: did you hide the file like I told you?
[10:15] <InuDuelist> I'm surprised that I haven't looked through the preferences yet.
[10:15] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : XD okies :) you
[10:15] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: Open a terminal like Yakuake.
[10:15] <insanekane> InuDuelist: wierd
[10:15] <InuDuelist> Or Konsole.
[10:15] <InuDuelist> insanekane: Hm?
[10:15] <insanekane> InuDuelist: the "u"
[10:15] <insanekane> InuDuelist: the "u" thing
[10:16] <mkquist> jucato - i put back the old one i made at first w/something in it and apt-get seems to work now, when i had an empty one, no go
[10:16] <InuDuelist> I dislike bad grammar and spelling.
[10:16] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: Got that terminal open?
[10:16] <Diuneimama> :)
[10:16] <Jucato> mkquist: because an empty preferences file is no good. the file should have something in  it, or it shouldn't be there at all
[10:16] <mkquist> jucato - lemme try ur suggestion tho
[10:16] <insanekane> InuDuelist: you must feel very bad when surfing the www :)
[10:16] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : I am still downloading the file .
[10:16] <mkquist> jucato - lol, think im finding that one out the hard way
[10:17] <InuDuelist> insanekane: I never use Instant Messenger anymore, I'll tell you that.
[10:17] <Jucato> mkquist: no need to try my suggestion
[10:17] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: Tell me when to move on.
[10:17] <insanekane> InuDuelist: :)
[10:17] <Jucato> mkquist: if restoring the previous preferences file worked, stick with it
[10:17] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Ok, I will tell you when I am ready, it's that alright?
[10:17] <InuDuelist> Ok.
[10:18] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Cool. Thanks
[10:18] <InuDuelist> Anyone write me up that Screenshot upload program yet?
[10:19] <InuDuelist> Yes? No?
[10:19] <mkquist> jucato - thanx for the help =)
[10:19] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Nope, not yet
[10:19] <insanekane> InuDuelist: hmm seems like you have syntax problems as well :P
[10:19] <Jucato> mkquist: glad that I could help
[10:20] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: Before we continue, you should know that most of, if not all of, your extensions will become obsolete.
[10:20] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : What is syntax problems?
[10:20] <InuDuelist> Don't worry.
[10:20] <InuDuelist> "AOL has shut down their research department, following the big search privacy scandal that emanated from that department."
[10:20] <InuDuelist> w00t.
[10:20] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : My english is a little bad, i don't understand what means obsolete. :(
[10:20] <insanekane> Diuneimama: bad grammar
[10:21] <Diuneimama> Xd
[10:21] <Diuneimama> I am poor in english
[10:21] <mkquist> anyone have any expereince w/3D Xgl and Compiz environment?
[10:21] <insanekane> Diuneimama: i mean, syntax problems == bad grammar
[10:21] <Diuneimama> o.o
[10:21] <InuDuelist> Obsolete means old.
[10:21] <InuDuelist> Outdated.
[10:22] <Diuneimama> Should be syntax problem?
[10:22] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Got it :)
[10:22] <InuDuelist> Good.
[10:22] <InuDuelist> Now, open a terminal.
[10:22] <insanekane> Diuneimama: i was referring to a syntax error (wrong grammar) made by InuDuelist ;)
[10:22] <InuDuelist> Where?
[10:23] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : XD Still in 13% of downloading
[10:23] <InuDuelist> >_<
[10:23] <InuDuelist> Do you happen to have Dial-Up?
[10:23] <Diuneimama> insanekane : XD
[10:24] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Erm. I am downloading updates, can't find the 'pause button.
[10:24] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : About obsolete, why you will said that my extension will be outdated?
[10:24] <insanekane> InuDuelist: "Anyone write me up that Screenshot upload program yet?" .. should be "Has anyone written..."
[10:25] <Diuneimama> XD
[10:25] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[10:25] <insanekane> Diuneimama: what is XD ?
[10:25] <Diuneimama> insanekane : Your english is good :)
[10:25] <Diuneimama> insanekane : An emotion
[10:25] <InuDuelist> "XD" means "huge laugh."
[10:25] <insanekane> Diuneimama: yeah, but i'm no english nazi ;)
[10:25] <Diuneimama> Nazi is?
[10:26] <InuDuelist> I'm an English Nazi.
[10:26] <InuDuelist> Grammar Nazi to be specific.
[10:26] <insanekane> Diuneimama: eh ...
[10:26] <InuDuelist> But, of course, I also make mistakes.
[10:26] <InuDuelist> Lots of them.
[10:26] <insanekane> InuDuelist: :)
[10:26] <InuDuelist> Most of them, purposely.
[10:26] <Diuneimama> insanekane : English is hard :(
[10:26] <insanekane> InuDuelist: you are truly a Nazi ;)
[10:26] <Kevin> is there an app i can use to view my windows network??
[10:26] <insanekane> Diuneimama: not really :)
[10:26] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: When upgrading Firefox, some of your extensions stop working, right?
[10:27] <insanekane> Diuneimama: try an inflected language (and associated grammar complexities) ... what language you speak/write ?
[10:27] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : I am not upgrading, I haven't finish downloading
[10:27] <InuDuelist> I know.
[10:28] <Diuneimama> insanekane : English is my 4th or 5th language
[10:28] <insanekane> Diuneimama: what is your mother tongue ?
[10:28] <InuDuelist> Have you ever updated Firefox before?
[10:28] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : I have firefox 1.5
[10:28] <InuDuelist> Good.
[10:28] <InuDuelist> Have you ever updated before?
[10:28] <insanekane> Diuneimama: my mother tongue is Malayalam ... but I speak and write English better than Malayalam (owing to me being a Non-Resident Indian)
[10:29] <insanekane> Diuneimama: i havent learned my mother tongue formally
[10:29] <Diuneimama> insanekane : Erm, ichinese or malay or cantonese
[10:29] <insanekane> Diuneimama: cool :)
[10:29] <Jucato> is it possible to compile another version of a program that's already installed on the system? one is in /usr/bin (from the repositories) and the other will be in /usr/local?
[10:29] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Nope.
[10:30] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : I just finish installed the firefox this morning.
[10:30] <joker> do some 1 know how 2 get steam working
[10:30] <insanekane> Diuneimama: so do you use an ideographic script ? or have alphabets ?
[10:30] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: Do you have any extensions?
[10:30] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Can you give me some example of extensions?
[10:30] <insanekane> InuDuelist: you probably would have a field day with joker ;)
[10:30] <InuDuelist> insanekane: I try to avoid.
[10:31] <Diuneimama> insanekane : Ideographic and alphabets
[10:31] <insanekane> InuDuelist: you know ... most of what I am telling you is in half-jest ... please dont take me too seriously :)
[10:31] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: If you don't know what they are, then nevermind.
[10:31] <insanekane> Diuneimama: ok cool
[10:31] <jott_> Jucato: it's not really wise to do so but you can configure with --prefix=/usr/local and the new installation should go there
[10:31] <InuDuelist> Do you happen to know Greek, Diuneimama?
[10:31] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Like flash player?
[10:31] <InuDuelist> No.
[10:31] <InuDuelist> Don't worry about it.
[10:31] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Not greek, I am an asian
[10:32] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : ok :)
[10:32] <InuDuelist> Do you KNOW Grek?
[10:32] <Jucato> jott_: ah. I was hoping to try to compile Firefox 2.0 beta, but I already have Ubuntu's Firefox installed
[10:32] <InuDuelist> Jucato, just cd to the directory and ./firefox
[10:32] <jott_> Jucato: keep in mind that when the application invokes some other binary it follows the $PATH order...
[10:32] <Jucato> ah
[10:32] <Jucato> jott_: ah ok
[10:33] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama: That file done downloading, yet?
[10:33] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Nope, sorry for you to wait :(
[10:33] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Erm, can you list down the commands?
[10:33] <InuDuelist> I'll tell you what to do afterwards.
[10:34] <InuDuelist> How far into the download is it?
[10:34] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : That mean you will be here? Its still have 65%
[10:34] <Diuneimama> XD
[10:35] <diuneimama_toile> InuDuelist : brb, toilet
[10:35] <Arepie> hello, i just install powertweak, how can i run the program ?
[10:35] <joker> do some 1 know how 2 get steam working
[10:43] <InuDuelist> Brown.freenode failing again.
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> wow
[10:48] <Jucato> lol netsplit
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> PyroMithrandir, XGL is still the same
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> with the multiple desktops
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> so many joins and juits
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> quits...
[10:51] <Jucato> yeah. netsplit
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, whats that
[10:52] <Jucato> a portion (node) of the network is disconnected, taking along some users with it
[10:52] <Jucato> Wikipedia explains it better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> too drunk to read
[10:52] <Jucato> er...
[10:52] <Jucato> ok nvm :-D
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> not drunk enough to typo all goffy
[10:53] <Healot> you and wiki are like thumb and nail, Jucato
[10:53] <Jucato> ehehehe
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> cool
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> that does explain things
[10:54] <InuDuelist> Diuneimama.
[10:54] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : ya?
[10:54] <InuDuelist> How's that coming?
[10:55] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Sorry haven't finish. But if I finished the download, can I run it with my adept updater on?
[10:55] <InuDuelist> Yes.
[10:56] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : oh , cool :)
[10:56] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Its on 72% now :(
[10:58] <InuDuelist> Hm.
[10:58] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : OMG
[10:58] <InuDuelist> What happened?
[10:58] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist :
[10:58] <InuDuelist> ...
[10:58] <InuDuelist> Huh?
[10:58] <Diuneimama> Its BROKEN
[10:58] <Diuneimama> AAAAAAAAAa
[10:58] <Diuneimama> OMGGG
[10:58] <Diuneimama> :(:(:(
[10:59] <InuDuelist> ...
[10:59] <InuDuelist> It's broken?
[10:59] <InuDuelist> What happened?
[11:00] <Diuneimama> Suddenly pops up a msg, link broken
[11:00] <InuDuelist> I see.
[11:00] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : sad
[11:00] <InuDuelist> Just in time for me to go to sleep.
[11:00] <InuDuelist> Sorry.
[11:01] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Can you list the command for me?
[11:01] <InuDuelist> Which command?
[11:01] <Diuneimama> I will do that later :( , sorry for waiting
[11:01] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Command to install
[11:02] <InuDuelist> If it's saved to the desktop, then... "cd ~/Desktop/firefox"
[11:02] <InuDuelist> Then, "./firefox"
[11:02] <InuDuelist> That's all.
[11:02] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Oh, that's simple :)
[11:02] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Got it, thanks
[11:04] <grizzly> suggest a lightweight simple mspaint type paint app plz.
[11:04] <Jucato> kolourpaint?
[11:04] <Jucato> is krita too heavy?
[11:04] <grizzly> I tried that, but its jsut plain stupid
[11:04] <grizzly> yup
[11:04] <grizzly> on my PIII atleast
[11:04] <Jucato> tuxpaint?
[11:05] <grizzly> will try!!
[11:06] <InuDuelist> I'm off to sleep.
[11:06] <InuDuelist> Good night, all.
[11:06] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Night
[11:06] <Diuneimama> InuDuelist : Bye :)
[11:08] <InuDuelist> "Good news. There's a report on TV with some very bad news."
[11:08] <Jucato> let me guess, bad report = Steve Irwin is dead?
[11:08] <Jucato> s/report/news
[11:19] <cox377> hey all
[11:20] <cox377> i 'm just wondering, under windows there are spyware cleaners, registry cleaners, disk cleaners etc etc .. are these sorta things required / used for linux?
[11:20] <chavo> cox377, no not really
[11:21] <Jucato> spyware? probably not. registry? we don't have one. disk cleaners? not really
[11:21] <cox377> lol
[11:21] <cox377> ok.. that was all i was after
[11:22] <jott_> well there is chkrootkit :p
[11:22] <cox377> jott_ what does that do mate?
[11:23] <jott_> in case your computer had been hacked there is the possiblitiy that the hacker gained root access and installed some backdoor ;)
[11:23] <cox377> ok
[11:23] <jott_> but its quite unlikely in common cases...
[11:23] <cox377> worth and install i suppose
[11:23] <cox377> tell me somethough though
[11:23] <MistaED> jott_: ohnos they used chroot!11 lol
[11:23] <Jucato> not really... it's a very rare thing... specially if you have firewalls...
[11:23] <cox377> last night, both kubuntu machines i use both appeared to have restarted when i went to them, anyone got any idea why?
[11:24] <oliver> good morning out there
[11:24] <jott_> cox377: power lines went down for a second?! ;)
[11:24] <cox377> not sure, windows machine didnt do anything
[11:24] <cox377> xbox's didnt do anything
[11:24] <cox377> was strange
[11:26] <oliver> finally i got my Laptop going with a 386 Kubuntu Liver CD version. I like to use 64bit now, any bigger restrictions there for avail. packages ??
[11:26] <oliver> btw it is a 64bit Laptop
[11:27] <fildo_> hey how do u search packages with apt-get
[11:29] <Jucato> fildo_: apt-cache search <search_pattern>
[11:42] <mkquist_> anyone around?
[11:42] <Healot> here? no :
[11:42] <mkquist_> lol
[11:42] <mkquist_> got quiet
[11:44] <Healot> you can ask your question, if anyone can answer, they will answer perhaps
[11:45] <mkquist_> just notice how quiet it got, thats all =/
[11:49] <pointy> hi, I got a video (private recording with a camcorder) that I would like to put on a DVD (so it is playable in a DVD player), what tools should I use for that?
[11:52] <oliver> sorry to ask again: finally i got my Laptop going with a 386 Kubuntu Liver CD version. I like to use 64bit now, any bigger restrictions there for avail. packages ??
[11:52] <oliver> pointy: isn't k3b good to do that ??
[11:53] <nalpha> guys how to sent message in here to some people with red line?? like others sent message to me?
[11:54] <pointy> oliver: hrm...I couldn't find an option to create a "movie dvd"
[11:56] <oliver> pointy: dvdauthor
[11:56] <oliver> dvdauthor is a program that will generate a DVD movie from a valid
[11:56] <oliver> mpeg2 stream that should play when you put it in a DVD player.
[11:56] <pointy> k
[12:00] <pointy> I'll check that out
[12:05] <jott> pointy: you might also check qdvdauthor or mandvd they provide a (simplified) frontend for dvdauthor
[12:07] <pointy> jott: yeah, just installed qdvdauthor
[12:08] <joop> hello
[12:09] <pointy> hi
[12:09] <joop> does anyone know how i can get my logitech webcam at work with kubuntu linux?
[12:10] <joop> anyone please help?
[12:10] <joop> does anyone know how i can get my logitech webcam at work with kubuntu linux?
[12:11] <pointy> no idea, sorry
[12:11] <joop> i have been at it for weeks now
[12:12] <joop> im starting to think that i have to go back to windows
[12:12] <joop> to bad
[12:13] <joker> can some1 help me out
[12:13] <joop> shoot
[12:15] <joker> how do i get my counter strike
[12:15] <joker> 2 work
[12:15] <joop> i need a driver for logitech quickcam  messenger (webcam) who knows where to find it please?
[12:16] <emonkey> !universe
[12:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:16] <joker> how do i get my counter strike 2 work
[12:18] <joker> i try 2 go 2 games
[12:18] <emonkey> !multiverse
[12:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:20] <qwertzu> hi
[12:22] <DeeTahPanLtah> my mate has totally no sound in kubuntu since today. what could be wrong?
[12:22] <sleeptyper> he turned volume down too much ?
[12:23] <DeeTahPanLtah> rather not
[12:23] <DeeTahPanLtah> not even mpg321 can make this work...
[12:23] <DeeTahPanLtah> in /dev/snd all links are broken
[12:23] <sleeptyper> ...
[12:23] <DeeTahPanLtah> how to fix it?
[12:23] <sleeptyper> no idea
[12:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> ;'<
[12:26] <Healot> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"
[12:26] <DeeTahPanLtah> okay,i'll try
[12:27] <DeeTahPanLtah> still doesn't work ;<
[12:27] <DeeTahPanLtah> ALSA snd_pcm_open error: No such file or directory
[12:27] <DeeTahPanLtah> Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
[12:29] <qwertzu> Raid Question: Can somebody tell me where to configure the raids. /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf has no effect the raids are started by the kernel or someting else and it depends on partition numbering. and i do some partition reanraging right now and therefore the raids "change" all the time md1 becomes md3 md6 gets a md2555 with dm-11 dm-13 as devises some raids are there twice with differen md numbers
[12:30] <qwertzu> i just want to tell the system that the raid on hda5 and hdb5 should be /dev/md0 all the time
[12:32] <DeeTahPanLtah> damnit,any ideas?
[12:51] <fjsanchez> Hello
[12:52] <fjsanchez> I need help
[12:52] <fjsanchez> KDE doesn't start correctly
[12:52] <Jucato> fjsanchez: what do you mean?
[12:52] <fjsanchez> It starts always as failsafe
[12:52] <fjsanchez> Windows doesn't have decoration
[12:52] <fjsanchez> No borders
[12:53] <fjsanchez> Yesterday I changed kdmrc and /etc/enviroment and also my xorg.conf to use aiglx
[12:53] <fjsanchez> I had do this many times before
[12:53] <Jucato> aah... hm... XGL/AIGLX problem...
[12:53] <fjsanchez> It ran ok, but when I restore all to back the normal mode
[12:53] <fjsanchez> Something should be wrong
[12:54] <fjsanchez> I cannot find what
[12:54] <fjsanchez> .xsession-erros is empty
[12:54] <fjsanchez> And there is nothing weird in kdm0.log
[12:55] <fjsanchez> The problem is the window-manager
[12:55] <fjsanchez> Xorg seem to work perfectly
[12:56] <Jucato> fjsanchez: so you're trying to run KDE with KWin again? try to see if you can run KWin (if Alt+F2 works...)
[12:57] <fjsanchez> Ok, if I type this decoration back again
[12:57] <fjsanchez> But no the KDE menu
[12:57] <fjsanchez> desktop, etc...
[12:57] <Jucato> fjsanchez: possibly kicker is not running?
[12:58] <fjsanchez> Ok now kicker runing
[12:58] <fjsanchez> The problem should be with the init scrip...
[12:59] <fjsanchez> Whe KDM is loading doesn't appear the icons loading
[12:59] <Jucato> hm... I'm not AIGLX expert unfortunately...
[12:59] <fjsanchez> But aiglx is disable
[12:59] <Jucato> but it might have done something wacky with your configs...
[01:00] <fjsanchez> I think so
[01:00] <fjsanchez> But if I try to enter using aiglx it's the same
[01:00] <fjsanchez> What file is used to start kicker, kwin, etc
[01:01] <Jucato> kicker is started by the file "panel.desktop" in /usr/share/autostart
[01:01] <Jucato> I think kwin is started by some other config..
[01:02] <fjsanchez> Mmmm, if I run kdesktop all come back
[01:03] <fjsanchez> So I think that it never gets exec
[01:03] <Jucato> probably
[01:04] <fjsanchez> Now I need to find what file call to autostart
[01:04] <Jucato> kdesktop.desktop is also in /usr/share/autostart
[01:04] <fjsanchez> yes that file
[01:04] <Jucato> it executes "kdesktop"
[01:04] <fjsanchez> What script exec this file
[01:05] <Jucato> I'm not sure. I don't think it's called by a script, since it's in /usr/share/autostart ?
[01:05] <Jucato> maybe you can check the contents of kdesktop.desktop and see if the options are correct
[01:05] <fjsanchez> It should be autoexecuted
[01:05] <fjsanchez> It seems correct
[01:06] <fjsanchez> [Desktop Entry] 
[01:06] <fjsanchez> Encoding=UTF-8
[01:06] <fjsanchez> Exec=kdesktop
[01:06] <fjsanchez> X-DCOP-ServiceType=wait
[01:06] <fjsanchez> Name=KDE Desktop
[01:06] <Jucato> don't do that...
[01:06] <fjsanchez> 5 lines....
[01:06] <Jucato> aah
[01:06] <Jucato> no the bottom part?
[01:06] <fjsanchez> yes but it doesn't mind
[01:07] <Jucato> X-KDE-autostart-phase=0 ?
[01:07] <fjsanchez> Type=Service
[01:07] <fjsanchez> X-KDE-StartupNotify=false
[01:07] <fjsanchez> OnlyShowIn=KDE;
[01:07] <fjsanchez> Only this and all for languages
[01:07] <Jucato> how about that line I just typed? it's missing?
[01:07] <fjsanchez> missing
[01:07] <Jucato> X-KDE-autostart-phase=0
[01:07] <Jucato> try adding it and see what happens
[01:08] <fjsanchez> Ok I'm goin to reboot X
[01:09] <fjsanchez> Nothing new...
[01:10] <fjsanchez> The same
[01:10] <Jucato> er...
[01:10] <fjsanchez> I have to exec kwin, kicker and kdesktop to restore almost all
[01:10] <Jucato> I'm out of ideas... maybe someone here has more experience with recovering from AIGLX...
[01:11] <fjsanchez> What prorgram is used to apply decoration to windows?
[01:12] <Jucato> KWin handles it.
[01:12] <fjsanchez> Mmm
[01:14] <jott> fjsanchez: are you sure you have selected KDE as session type with kdm?
[01:15] <Zbahoui> plop
[01:18] <fjsanchez> jott:  where?
[01:19] <fjsanchez>  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[01:19] <fjsanchez>  /usr/bin/kdm
[01:19] <fjsanchez> jott yo mean in the menu?
[01:19] <fjsanchez> Doesn't mind what you choose always start as failsafe
[01:20] <fjsanchez> Jucato: what attributes have your /usr/share/autostart files
[01:25] <fjsanchez> Sep  4 12:40:47 localhost kdm_config[5069] : Multiple occurrences of key 'ServerArgsLocal' in section [X-:*-Core]  of /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[01:29] <Diuneimama> fjsanchez can i show u something on pm
[01:29] <Diuneimama> i dunwan to spam the chan
[01:29] <fjsanchez> Diuneimama: I'm not registerd
[01:30] <fjsanchez> I cannot write in PM
[01:30] <fjsanchez> But I can read you
[01:30] <Diuneimama> oh alright
[01:30] <Diuneimama> hmm
[01:30] <Diuneimama> then i show u can u tell me in chan?
[01:30] <fjsanchez> Write in the PM
[01:31] <Diuneimama> got it? sorry for spam
[01:32] <fjsanchez> Is it from Wine?
[01:32] <fjsanchez> Diuneimama: when does it appear?
[01:33] <Diuneimama> erm, i got these when using some program
[01:33] <Diuneimama> imean wine windows program
[01:33] <fjsanchez> Wine?
[01:33] <Diuneimama> is it i dun have any extension?
[01:33] <Diuneimama> yup
[01:33] <fjsanchez> I know... the it's normal, wine have a lot of bugs
[01:34] <fjsanchez> It's still buggy
[01:34] <fjsanchez> And you cannot exec all applications
[01:34] <Diuneimama> but onmy fren linux it work
[01:34] <fjsanchez> Do you get these errors when you exec wineconfig?
[01:35] <Diuneimama> no
[01:35] <Diuneimama> its related with clipboard and bit image
[01:35] <fjsanchez> Only when you try to exec the application throught wine
[01:35] <Diuneimama> i have done the installation with wine
[01:35] <Diuneimama> jux the program cant read some header?
[01:36] <fjsanchez> Mmm, I have no idea. Wine have to be well configured to run correctly
[01:36] <fjsanchez> Sorry
[01:36] <Diuneimama> hmm, that alright :0
[01:36] <Diuneimama> :)
[01:36] <fjsanchez> Did you try in #wine?
[01:37] <Diuneimama> nop
[01:37] <Diuneimama> let me try now
[01:38] <Healot> in freenode, #wine is about WINE right?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> Healot: #winehq is about wine ive never beent o #wine though
[01:44] <linnuxxy> is there a kubuntu live CD?
[01:44] <Jucato_> yes
[01:44] <emonkey> yes
[01:45] <emonkey> :)
[01:45] <emonkey> !download
[01:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:45] <Jucato_> linnuxxy: it's called Desktop CD
[01:46] <linnuxxy> Desktop CDs are install CD and live CD in the same time?
[01:46] <Jucato_> linnuxxy: Desktop CD = Live CD, Alternate Install CD = text based installer CD
[01:46] <linnuxxy> ohhh... i c... thnx
[01:47] <Jucato_> btw, this is a more direct link to Kubuntu's download page: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[01:49] <akrus> hello everyone :)
[01:49] <akrus> what's up with us.archive.ubuntu.org?
[01:49] <akrus> does not respond for me :(
[01:49] <akrus> and I still do not understand how to download the latest updates for Kubuntu xD KDE 3.5.4 is still missing in synaptic .oO
[01:51] <fildo> has anyone here got knetstats going ?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> akrus: if you are using dapper you need riddell's 3.5.4 repos to get/update kde 3.5.4
[01:55] <akrus> gnomefreak: I remember there was kinda 'common' repository that has *all* updates
[01:56] <akrus> :)
[01:56] <gnomefreak> skavenge: there is only 1 repo you need to get kde 3.5.4 as long as you have that repo it will update when updates are there for it
[01:56] <akrus> i know
[01:57] <akrus> but e.g. debian has 1 repository which has all updates
[01:57] <akrus> which has no distro
[01:57] <akrus> simply .deb packages
[01:57] <osh_> what's the standard mail package for ubuntu? to send mail? qmail? postfix?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> akrus: this isnt debian. there is no one repo with updates other than dapper-updates repos but still not gonna update 3.5.4 since it is not in dapper
[01:58] <akrus> I know :) I remember it was. Maybe not inside ubuntu, but somewhere else. Anyway thanks for the suggestiongs.
[01:58] <akrus> -g*
[01:58] <gnomefreak> osh_: there is not "standard" most people use postfix
[01:58] <Philip5> i use the kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest repo for kde 3.5.4 and it works for me
[01:58] <gnomefreak> Philip5: as it should
[01:59] <Philip5> yes
[01:59] <Jucato_> akrus: the update for KDE 3.5.4 is in a special Kubuntu.org repository
[01:59] <gnomefreak> i have 3.5.4 on my dapper pc and it runs and updates normally
[02:00] <Jucato_> but KDE 3.5.4 in Kubuntu has some bugs in it. unless you're willing to work around those, you're probably better off with 3.5.3
[02:00] <gnomefreak> if i understand him corrctly and as i told him the kde 3.5.4 repo is the only one that will give him updates for 3.5.4
[02:00] <osh_> Jucato_: I'd say that's true for any software... ;-)
[02:00] <MistaED> one bug is the update to hal broke a few things
[02:00] <akrus> I love the bugs x) probably that's why I love to develop x_X
[02:01] <Jucato_> osh_: no I really mean that there are known issues/bugs in KDE 3.5.4 in Kubuntu
[02:01] <MistaED> it happened to me on two machines, but they were running gnome (i wanted the update to kaffeine)
[02:01] <gnomefreak> Jucato_: i thought kaffine was fixed
[02:01] <gnomefreak> ack not Jucato_ but MistaED
[02:01] <Jucato_> but HAL and KDE 3.5.4 in Dapper still continue to not play w/ each other nicely...
[02:02] <MistaED> gnomefreak: dad and i had no troubles with kaffeine, it was hal which busted my mouse and other usb things and dad's printer
[02:02] <gnomefreak> MistaED: sounds like hal all right :)
[02:02] <akrus> now downloading 3.5.4 :)
[02:02] <Jucato_> MistaED: it's something about KDE 3.5.4 and Dapper's version of HAL. it's not present in Edgy
[02:02] <MistaED> i just locked the dapper hal and all was well :)
[02:03] <osh_> Hmm, I seem to have exim4 on my system...
[02:03] <gnomefreak> you guys do know 3.5.4 will never officially make it into dapper right?
[02:03] <Jucato_> gnomefreak: never officially in dapper-backports
[02:03] <gnomefreak> nope
[02:03] <Jucato_> but Kubuntu.org is as official as it gets
[02:03] <gnomefreak> Jucato_: it will not be backported last i heard
[02:03] <Jucato_> gnomefreak: I was confirming what you said, actually...
[02:03] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:04] <gnomefreak> which inturn means that the problems that are in dapper adn 3.5.4 might not get fixed as fast as you may thing
[02:04] <gnomefreak> think
[02:05] <Jucato_> gnomefreak: actually Hobbsee already made a fix for one of the bugs :-D
[02:05] <Jucato_> and if I remember correctly, Riddel said he'd look into the HAL problem (probably after Edgy)
[02:05] <gnomefreak> Jucato_: yes after edgy
[02:05] <Jucato> darn! I never noticed I was on my alternate nick...
[02:06] <gnomefreak> if anything like dapper few people will be using dapper after edgy release
[02:06] <Jucato> yeah... I'm imagining Dapper to be the Sarge of Ubuntu.
[02:06] <arejaytee> friggin remote desktop connect button wont change from being greyed out lol
[02:06] <arejaytee> evening all :)
[02:06] <Jucato> lol
[02:07] <Jucato> "friggin" preceded "(good) evening"
[02:07] <arejaytee> apart from that it is a good evening lol
[02:07] <Jucato> eheh
[02:08] <arejaytee> google xvid for kaffiene
[02:08] <arejaytee> ekkk sorry
[02:08] <osh_> Tried edgy yesterday. The live-cd. Quite good. Beautiful new theme for kde. Some bugs in firefox and konqueror but I never got around to report those.
[02:10] <arejaytee> hrmm hey when i try to share a folder and then go to configure sharing ive entered my password but its all greyed out too and wont let me select anything
[02:11] <scott__> does anyone know if kubuntu has a speach recognition program for it?
[02:12] <arejaytee> ur last name hooper?
[02:13] <osh_> scott__: I've heard of it but never used any.
[02:14] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I've made a transcript of the class about compiling. you might want to double check if I made some errors in your lecture :-D  http://jucato.multiply.com/journal/item/33
[02:16] <arejaytee> how do i get xvids to work under kaffeine
[02:16] <Jucato> arejaytee: libxine-extracodecs
[02:20] <arejaytee> ta
[02:21] <Icky_Flix> arejaytee: there is no "meta-package" in order to install every "non-free" codec?
[02:22] <zorgluuu> i think easyubuntu is the closest
[02:22] <zorgluuu> but i am not aware of any 'metapackage' doing it
[02:22] <zorgluuu> good idea tho :)
[02:22] <zorgluuu> !easyubuntu
[02:22] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:23] <atul> My audio has dissapeared after some dist-upgrade can anyone help?
[02:23] <arejaytee> Jucato: i found out why apt-get and such stopped responding most of the time
[02:23] <arejaytee> but know got another problem lol
[02:24] <Jucato> arejaytee: so what was causing the problem w/ apt-get?
[02:24] <arejaytee> i needed to place my isp dns server in instead of the router (its crap lol)
[02:25] <Jucato> ah
[02:25] <arejaytee> but now it keeps reverting back to the dns of 10.1.1.1
[02:25] <flaccid> common prob
[02:25] <flaccid> what brand router?
[02:25] <arejaytee> dlink
[02:25] <atul> Can anyone here help with audio?
[02:25] <flaccid> bridged or switched?
[02:25] <flaccid> routed rather
[02:25] <arejaytee> and then updating and such stops and ive got to reset it back to the isp dns
[02:25] <zorgluuu> arejaytee: it is somewhere in the dhcp config
[02:25] <arejaytee> switched
[02:26] <flaccid> you get timeouts on lookups?
[02:26] <arejaytee> yeah
[02:26] <flaccid> i hate that
[02:26] <flaccid> i probably get it with mine
[02:26] <flaccid> quite a few brands can't dns relay any good
[02:26] <arejaytee> but everything else worked i could even open them in konqueror lol
[02:26] <flaccid> especiall with load
[02:27] <flaccid> 4.2.2.1 is a handy free dns server
[02:27] <flaccid> public rather
[02:27] <flaccid> easy to remember when ya need it
[02:27] <zorgluuu> oh nice info
[02:28] <arejaytee> oh ok thats cool
[02:28] <zorgluuu> a lot of time my isp dns goes down
[02:28] <flaccid> omg thats bad
[02:29] <arejaytee> rofl thats sweet even my thinkpad buttons work, lol first time ive tested lol
[02:29] <Icky_Flix> zorgluuu: don't they have other dns servers?
[02:29] <zorgluuu> ?
[02:29] <zorgluuu> i guess they have several yes
[02:30] <zorgluuu> my point is for me as a customer, one or several, i dont get the reply :)
[02:30] <zorgluuu> may not be due to my direct isp tho
[02:30] <zorgluuu> once it was my whole country which went down
[02:31] <zorgluuu> and when i say a lot, i would say 5 during the last months
[02:31] <zorgluuu> month(without s)
[02:31] <Dannilion> arejaytee: The reason I bought a Thinkpad was so I knew everything would work
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Jucato: looks good
[02:31] <arejaytee> lol cool
[02:32] <Jucato> gnomefreak: thanks. I didn't miss anything?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> not that i could tell
[02:33] <Jucato> ok then. time to inform nalioth
[02:44] <gan|y|med> hello
[02:44] <Jucato> hi!
[02:44] <sredna> Hm, kubuntu have disabled some very important parts of KDE, such as kwalletmanager and the korganizer alarm daemon :-(
[02:44] <Jucato> sredna: actually, it's not...
[02:45] <Jucato> they're still there
[02:45] <Jucato> korganizer alarm demon will show up when you start Kontact or KOrganizer
[02:45] <sredna> Jucato: Well, they are not autostarting as usual, so I have to take on the work of making them
[02:45] <sredna> Jucato: But it did not autostart after that, because kubuntu edited the desktop file
[02:45] <sredna> Probably similar with kwalletmanager
[02:46] <Jucato> sredna: when you start Kontact, right-click on the korganizer icon on the system tray, and enable "Start reminder daemon at login"
[02:46] <Jucato> well, these are Kubuntu defaults. they're free to do that right? probably some other distros have these 2 enabled by default. but that's them.
[02:46] <sredna> Jucato: I did
[02:47] <sredna> Now I can't find kwalletmanager
[02:47] <Jucato> sredna: run kwalletmanager from Alt+F2
[02:47] <sredna> Seems to do nothing
[02:48] <gan|y|med> does anybody know sth. about php?
[02:48] <sredna> Many folks in ##php I guess :)
[02:50] <gan|y|med> i am there already
[02:51] <Healot> #php requires nick registration huh
[02:52] <zorgluuu> #fedora too
[02:52] <zorgluuu> i dont get why
[02:52] <zorgluuu> they claim it is some anti flood measure.. but i hardly ever see attacks on freenode
[02:52] <sredna> Hm, kwalletmanager had just failed to open after my system crashed earlier..
[02:53] <zorgluuu> sredna: switching distro is hard hey :)
[02:53] <zorgluuu> imagine the people from window :)
[02:53] <sredna> zorgluuu: I'm generally very happy with kubuntu, though there are som glitches
[02:54] <sredna> Like differences from kde default configuration, which is annoying because it strikes me when I'm busy it appears.
[02:55] <sredna> But hey, I installed apache + php + mysql last night, and it took < 5 minutes to get everything up running
[02:55] <sredna> Most of which was spent securing mysql
[02:56] <zorgluuu> i spent 5h reinstalling last night due to a glitch in the 810 xserver driver :)
[02:57] <sredna> Eew :\
[02:57] <soon> Hi there folks ... yesterday I installed xfce and later uninstalled it again ... but since then, my kubuntu seems to be messed up as far as char-maps go. Konqueror cannot display  correctly and K3B fails to copy files containing such letters to CD ....
[02:57] <soon> what can I do?
[02:59] <zorgluuu> no idea, i use american everywhere to avoid those issues
[02:59] <soon> thats no really a very useful solution though :-)
[03:00] <zorgluuu> nope :)
[03:01] <arejaytee> grrrr why does it keep reverting back to 10.1.1.1 when ive told it something different!
[03:01] <zorgluuu> !i18n
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i18n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <zorgluuu> arejaytee: it is in the dhcp conf
[03:01] <larson9999> when i browse the web with konqueror and open some links on pages, i get a message that asks me if i want to either save the link or open with another browser, in this case opera which is what i set for default.  what i'd like is for the web pages to open in the browser i'm using.  is there a way to do that without having to change a setting all the time?
[03:01] <zorgluuu> the router give it the 10.1.1.1 when you get the address
[03:02] <arejaytee> hrrm ill turn it off then, didnt think of that
[03:02] <zorgluuu> arejaytee: well, told you like 30min ago :)
[03:03] <arejaytee> lol prolly
[03:04] <h3sp4wn> arejaytee: What is reverting to 10.1.1.1
[03:05] <zorgluuu> his dns server
[03:06] <zorgluuu> and 10.1.1.1 is his buggy router which act as dns proxy
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> Fix the router or get a new one would be the sensible thing to do (or change the dhcp configuration to give out your isp's dns servers)
[03:26] <fabri> ciao
[03:32] <holy_cow> I think I'm coming over to the K side :)
[03:33] <visik7> the K side of the power :)
[03:33] <mattikoo> Hello. What services must be on running that reboot and shutdown runs right? Now when I try shutdown or reboot system will freeze.
[03:33] <holy_cow> Ya
[03:34] <holy_cow> I wasn't sure but the WM is just to dang pretty
[03:34] <holy_cow> I have ubuntu and installed kde-core
[03:34] <holy_cow> but its all kinds of confusing (with all my previous apps)
[03:34] <holy_cow> I didn't do a very judicious job of installing and organizing. So I figure clean sweep
[03:35] <holy_cow> tar'ing up my home dir now
[03:35] <abattoir> holy_cow: installing kubuntu-desktop should take care of everything
[03:35] <holy_cow> abattoir: negative. It had some unresolved deps or something
[03:35] <holy_cow> kde-core worked.. but kubuntu-desktop did not.
[03:36] <visik7> !restricted
[03:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:36] <abattoir> holy_cow: hmmm, that'd probably only get you the most basic stuff.
[03:37] <holy_cow> abattoir: ja I nknow.
[03:37] <holy_cow> So I'm doing a fresh install
[03:37] <abattoir> holy_cow: oh, ok
[03:37] <holy_cow> backing up now
[03:37] <holy_cow> ;)
[03:40] <dhq> hey all
[03:40] <dhq> i have some problem with my opengl
[03:40] <dhq> what do i do
[03:40] <holy_cow> btw is Xgl able to run on KDE?
[03:40] <holy_cow> i know gnome had it
[03:41] <mattikoo> When I try shutdown or reboot kubuntu it will be freezed.
[03:41] <dhq> holy_cow: i tried gl but it screwed my display etc
[03:41] <dhq> holy_cow: sorry xgl
[03:42] <dhq> holy_cow: i am using intel built in graphics are there any updates for it
[03:42] <atul> I've lost my audio after a dist-upgrade, amarok seems happy but no sound! same with aplay
[03:42] <dhq> ubotu: !graphics
[03:42] <holy_cow> Ah. I'm using an atix700
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <atul> can anyone help
[03:43] <dhq> ubotu: !drivers
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <Tm_T> dhq: fishing?
[03:44] <atul> Cananybody help with audio please?
[03:44] <Tm_T> !ati
[03:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:44] <the-mouse> hi guys, i have one weird problem - i want to install splashy, and i use this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216597&highlight=install+splashy where it is said to add this repo in sources.list "deb http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/debian stable main", i add it, do apt-get update and then install splashy, but it says that it can't fing the package
[03:44] <h3sp4wn> dhq: use aiglx on intel (there is no need for xgl)
[03:44] <holy_cow> k well heres hoping the kubuntu goes as well as ubuntu did ;)
[03:45] <dhq> h3sp4wn: aiglx is it like opengl
[03:46] <dhq> Intel Graphic Drivers for Notebooks now Opensource!
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> dhq: You can use compiz with aiglx (if that is why you wanted to run xgl)
[03:47] <dhq> h3sp4wn: from where do i get aiglx is it there in adept
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> dhq: You either search google for dapper packages (xserver-air rings a bell) or update to kubuntu edgy eft (where it is standard)
[03:49] <dhq> ubotu: !edgy
[03:49] <arejaytee_> is it worth going to edgy eft already? for a basic new user like myself?
[03:49] <dismal_> How would I go about having things start on boot?  I've checked the forums but all my search terms are a wee bit too broad :/
[03:49] <dhq> arejaytee_: whats in edgy
[03:49] <the-mouse> can somebody help me? ^^^^
[03:50] <dhq> ubotu: !edgy
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> dhq: If you are messing with xgl (and using intel) I think (personally probably not the official view) that you would have less hassle with edgy (once its installed) due to not needing unofficial repositories
[03:51] <abattoir> !edgy
[03:51] <abattoir> AreJayTee: no its not :)
[03:51] <AreJayTee> id love to give xgl a go, but i dont think this a21m thinkpad would like it lol
[03:51] <AreJayTee> yeah didnt think so
[03:51] <milco> i would like to install binutils for kubuntu (need it for the nvidia drivers)
[03:52] <dhq> h3sp4wn: i am on a dell D505 lappy
[03:52] <milco> should i use apt-get or dload them from the source and make/install them?
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> dhq: If its intel you will get aiglx by default with edgy
[03:52] <dhq> h3sp4wn:  wat is edgy
[03:52] <milco> when i try: sudo apt-get install binutils rpm
[03:53] <milco> 'cannot find package binutils'
[03:53] <abattoir> milco: do you need a specific version
[03:53] <abattoir> ??
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> !upgrade
[03:53] <milco> mwa, i would like to install the nvidia drivers - so a 'newer' version will do.. i guess
[03:53] <abattoir> is ubotu dead?
[03:53] <abattoir> !ubotu
[03:53] <milco> kubuntu doesnt come with binutils included right?
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> !info binutils
[03:54] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: ubotu is dead...
[03:54] <dhq> h3sp4wn: how do i get edgy
[03:54] <milco> i tried google and the kubuntu pages, couldnt find any info
[03:54] <abattoir> milco: you can get it with 'sudo apt-get install binutils'
[03:55] <milco> so if anyone of you is kind enought to kick me into the right direction :)
[03:55] <milco> lets see..
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> dhq: Google for edgy knot 2 installation cd's is the easiest way (or get them from cdimage.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <milco> abattoir: 'cannot find package binutils'
[03:55] <milco> abattoir: do i need to setup apt-get, havent used it before
[03:56] <milco> i just installed kubuntu (im not new to *nix)
[03:56] <milco> always used sources/ports
[03:56] <abattoir> milco: well, i'd expect it to be setup out of the box... could you check /etc/apt/sources.list to see if main is enabled?
[03:56] <dhq> h3sp4wn: ie like i have to do another installation rite
[03:56] <AreJayTee> have u done a sudo apt-get update?
[03:56] <AreJayTee> milco: that is
[03:57] <h3sp4wn> dhq: You could try upgrading but the chances are it will be pretty ugly at this moment (but there again using xgl from unofficial places is often ugly)
[03:57] <milco> AreJayTee: package listings are red in now :)
[03:58] <dhq> h3sp4wn: is edgy  better than drapper
[03:58] <milco> trying sudo apt-get install binutils >> cannot find package again...
[03:59] <MidMark> hi, I've a problem with kubuntu and a sis 740 integrated video card
[04:00] <MidMark> since one day it say that there is no device found
[04:00] <skavenge> anyone know what linux options i have for reading a .rb ebook file?
[04:00] <andi_> I installed tvtime but when I tried to start it this came ---> http://pastebin.ca/160565
[04:00] <MidMark> I've seen in but the xorg.conf wasn't touched and before worked ok!
[04:00] <andi_> what can I do ?
[04:01] <dhq> h3sp4wn:  i just want opengl to work i dont want xgl
[04:01] <milco> why am i unable to do: sudo apt-get install binutils?
[04:02] <milco> it always returns 'cannot find package binutils'
[04:03] <skavenge> andi_: looks like you need to install some drivers for your video card in order for it to work, it lists what you need right in the error
[04:03] <alien_ghost> hey guys
[04:03] <h3sp4wn> dhq: I don't an intel card here so am not sure how to get opengl working on dapper
[04:04] <milco> anyone using the nvidia drivers on kubuntu?
[04:04] <alien_ghost> i am
[04:04] <alien_ghost> milco: I am
[04:04] <|brad|> as well as me
[04:04] <alien_ghost> milco: use this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[04:05] <milco> thankSS!! alien_ghost
[04:05] <ERRY111> Can someone help me, I'm trying to install Amarok 1.4.2 but I keep encountering errors/
[04:05] <skavenge> what error? how are you trying to install it?
[04:06] <ERRY111> i do deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-142 dapper main
[04:06] <holy_cow> =)
[04:07] <milco> WITH every 'apt-get' i try i receive 'package not available'!
[04:07] <milco> do i have to setup apt-get?
[04:07] <ERRY111> well, first i do wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[04:07] <Healot> !repos
[04:08] <milco> ahhh now i see how i can add aextra package sources
[04:08] <ERRY111> and sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[04:08] <skavenge> !info amarok
[04:08] <ERRY111> as it says to do so before doing deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-142 dapper main
[04:08] <abattoir> Healot, skavenge: ubotu is down
[04:08] <skavenge> ERRY111: well mine was right in the regular repos, didnt need to do any of that
[04:09] <Jucato> milco: you shouldn't have to add extra packages to install binutils. just make sure the the "main" repositories are enabled (no "#" at the beginning or not grayed out)
[04:09] <ERRY111> yeah, i found mine in there too
[04:09] <dismal_> What does this mean? "The utility is not in your PATH.  Please install it or contact your sys. admin."
[04:09] <ERRY111> but it's just not installing
[04:09] <holy_cow> how is konversation vs. xchat?
[04:09] <dismal_> im trying to install a .deb
[04:09] <dhq> h3sp4wn: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220736
[04:10] <skavenge> ERRY111: well did you get an error? did you try to install with adept or?
[04:10] <ERRY111> no, in the terminal
[04:12] <milco> im installing the nvidia drivers whooohooo.. :), i had no inet during the installation (its a brand new machine, didnt plug the network cable yet)
[04:12] <skavenge> ERRY111: do you have it installed already, an older version? have you tried just 'fetching updates' from adept? afaik there was an ubuntu-wide upgrade to 1.4.2
[04:12] <milco> as i had no inet during the installation, it couldnt install security updates - can i do this myself now?
[04:13] <the-mouse> hi guys, i have one weird problem - i want to install splashy, and i use this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216597&highlight=install+splashy where it is said to add this repo in sources.list "deb http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/debian stable main", i add it, do apt-get update and then install splashy, but it says that it can't fing the package
[04:13] <ERRY111> there is an older version of amarok on my computer. yes i tried running adept to get updates, but there were no new updates
[04:14] <Jucato> the-mouse: AFAIK, and based on my experience, Splashy doesn't work with the current kernel in Kubuntu
[04:15] <the-mouse> why?
[04:15] <milco> how do i restart kubuntu without restarting my machine?
[04:15] <skavenge> ERRY111: have you run sudo apt-get update recently? then try to fetch updates?
[04:15] <Jucato> the-mouse: I'm not sure. something about the kernel not having the proper options enabled
[04:15] <Healot> the desktop, milco
[04:15] <Healot> ?
[04:15] <ERRY111> let me do that now
[04:16] <the-mouse> milco, you can try [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]  it does redtart only the x server
[04:16] <milco> the-mouse: that is killing the x-server :P
[04:16] <milco> well i just installed the nvidia drivers, its better to do a full reboot i think
[04:16] <Jucato> milco: it will also kill everything that relies on X, which includes KDE
[04:16] <milco> so they get proped
[04:17] <Jucato> milco: actually, when you install the nvidia drivers, you should restart X
[04:17] <milco> only restarting it?
[04:18] <Jucato> milco: yes. after you have installed the driver and done "nvidia-xconfig" or "nvidia-glx-config enable" (i forgot the exact commands), you restart X
[04:22] <skavenge> anyone know what linux options i have for reading a .rb ebook file?
[04:23] <Healot> what's a .rb
[04:23] <skavenge> an ebook file
[04:24] <Healot> i know you said ebook, but what kind of ebook? who made such format?
[04:24] <ERRY111> when i try deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-142 dapper main, it says bash: deb: command not found
[04:24] <skavenge> Healot: no idea
[04:25] <skavenge> ERRY111: that line needs to be added to /etc/apt/sources.list , its not a command line you run
[04:25] <tackat> ERRY111: you've got to enter that line into /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:25] <ERRY111> skavenge: how do i do that?
[04:26] <skavenge> ERRY111: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list , and add it to the bottom and save
[04:29] <ERRY111> ok i did that
[04:29] <ERRY111> now what?
[04:29] <octan> apt-get update
[04:30] <octan> *sudo
[04:30] <flox102> hallo
[04:30] <ketsugi> How do I restart the sound drivers in KDE?
[04:30] <flox102> :)
[04:31] <skavenge> ERRY111: sudo apt-get update. then try and install i guess, are you following a guide or?
[04:31] <ERRY111> im following http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.2.php
[04:32] <duce> Hallo
[04:33] <skavenge> i guess you'll have to sudo apt-get install amarok then or try to fetch updates again, though im not sure this is going to work if its not installing from the regular repos
[04:34] <ERRY111> when i do sudo apt-get update, i get an error message that says could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[04:34] <ERRY111> and then some other text
[04:34] <skavenge> you've got adept running to or some other instance of apt-get .. you can only run one at a  time
[04:34] <ERRY111> ok
[04:35] <ERRY111> ok i think i've got it now
[04:36] <octan> ketsugi sudo killall artsd && artsd :)
[04:37] <xtrm> hi
[04:37] <xtrm> i have installed kubuntu for the first time
[04:37] <xtrm> and i', loving it
[04:38] <octan> xtrm, good for you :D
[04:38] <MidMark> xorg doesn't start, please help me -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22526
[04:38] <xtrm> i know theres a linux version of unreal tournament and i would like to install it in order to leave windows
[04:38] <xtrm> anyone can help me??
[04:38] <octan> xtrm, this is not a gaming channel
[04:38] <xtrm> i've downloaded the demo but it doesn't work
[04:38] <xtrm> i know
[04:38] <xtrm> sry
[04:39] <Hawkwind> MidMark: When did you last update your system ?
[04:39] <octan> xtrm, proper xorg dirvers? gxl?
[04:39] <xtrm> me?
[04:39] <xtrm> today
[04:39] <octan> not you
[04:39] <xtrm> sry ok
[04:39] <xtrm> lol
[04:39] <MidMark> Hawkwind: don't know, it's my brother's notebook
[04:39] <octan> he was talking to MidMark ;OP
[04:39] <xtrm> dont know what xorg drivers are
[04:39] <Hawkwind> MidMark: You need to try to do an update.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:39] <xtrm> where can i find them??
[04:40] <MidMark> Hawkwind: try now thanx
[04:40] <octan> the channels?
[04:40] <Hawkwind> MidMark: There was an xorg package that came out a couple of weeks ago that broke X.  There was a fix for it the next day
[04:40] <octan> Hawkwind, that fix suxz,, it didnt work for me
[04:41] <Hawkwind> octan: The update works for everyone as it updates your xorg package
[04:41] <thompa> i cant seem to find my windows partition since upgrade
[04:41] <octan> i tryed updating,,,, but when kdm startup then.. it blacks out..
[04:42] <octan> so i had to go to a previous pak
[04:42] <thompa> i can boot into windows fine though
[04:42] <MidMark> Hawkwind: I have no gpg key...
[04:42] <Hawkwind> MidMark: You don't need it.  It's just a warning
[04:42] <MidMark> nope, it cannot continue
[04:42] <MidMark> don't know for other errors now I check
[04:43] <xtrm> where can i find the xorg package??
[04:43] <thompa> cant find hda1 anywhere cant mount it either
[04:43] <xtrm> or whats the command to update it?
[04:43] <jari> auts wrong country
[04:44] <xtrm> sry i'm a bit noob at this
[04:44] <MidMark> Hawkwind: ok now he said that I cannot obatin the lock to /var/apt/dpkg/lock if I remember
[04:45] <Hawkwind> MidMark: Do you have Adept open ?
[04:45] <Hawkwind> MidMark: If so, you need to close it
[04:45] <MidMark> nope, I have only console, do you remember? No xorg...
[04:45] <milco> i tried the following to mount a ISO file > http://ubuntu-forums.nl/docu/kubuntugids-2.0.html#08008
[04:45] <milco> but i get an error returned..
[04:46] <Hawkwind> MidMark: You did use sudo ?
[04:46] <milco> are there any compression utillities which i can use (to extract this iso?)
[04:46] <Hawkwind> milco: sudo apt-get update
[04:46] <milco> done that
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Ermmm sorry milco
[04:46] <MidMark> ah sorry two sudo
[04:46] <Hawkwind> MidMark: Yes, sudo is needed both times
[04:46] <milco> ahh k..
[04:46] <duce> I have got a problem to install kubuntu. When I got to the point where I select which patition should be mountet and where I have got a problem: The patitions don't..."fit" together. For example qtparted tells: /dev/sdb6 is 24 GB - the installation tells me it is 950 MB
[04:47] <Hawkwind> milco: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /full/path/to/foo.iso /mnt/some/mount/point/you/created
[04:47] <thompa> !ntfs
[04:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:48] <milco> Hawkwind: tried that but it fails
[04:48] <oslo> hi, i lost my system tray with teh kde icons and teh time ..how can i do to make it back ?
[04:48] <Hawkwind> milco: What is the error ?
[04:48] <Jucato> oslo: right-click on the panel and select Add Applet to Panel
[04:48] <milco> Hawkwind: while i know that the iso is working
[04:49] <milco> Hawkwind: the standard message for when mounting fails
[04:49] <victor> ola
[04:49] <victor> alguna xica
[04:49] <milco> its rather long.. and in my local language :/
[04:49] <Hawkwind> milco: Can you translate it and put it into pastebin ?
[04:49] <Hawkwind> !es
[04:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:50] <alumno_> hola
[04:50] <victor> ola
[04:50] <MidMark> Hawkwind: yesss, an xorg-core was missing, with update all ok Thanx!
[04:50] <milco> Hawkwind: no - its THE standard error message of mount for when something fails
[04:50] <alumno_> no hay ninguna nia
[04:50] <alumno_> por hay
[04:50] <ERRY111> I'm having a problem. When i try to run FrostWire, it will show loading but the program won't appear to be open
[04:50] <victor> nosee creo que no
[04:51] <milco> is there a tool for KDE which i can use to extract a iso?
[04:51] <alumno_> pucha
[04:51] <victor> tos ingleses
[04:51] <milco> english please.. ffs
[04:51] <alumno_> eeeeeeeee
[04:51] <alumno_> no entiendo na
[04:51] <milco> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:51] <zorgluuu> !es
[04:51] <victor> yo tampoco
[04:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:51] <Hawkwind> MidMark: Glad to hear :)
[04:52] <ERRY111> Can someone help?
[04:52] <alumno_> Que dijo
[04:52] <alumno_> ???
[04:52] <victor> npi
[04:52] <victor> ni puta ides
[04:52] <alumno_> jajaj
[04:52] <alumno_> No inglis
[04:52] <zorgluuu> alumno_: victor: ???
[04:52] <victor> edad?
[04:52] <zorgluuu> !es
[04:52] <alumno_> porfa
[04:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:53] <zorgluuu> can you please talk in english, here
[04:53] <ERRY111> This is not a spanish channel
[04:53] <Jucato> !pt
[04:53] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:53] <Jucato> !es
[04:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:53] <oslo> Jucato> i don t have this option
[04:53] <zorgluuu> if you prefere to talk in spanish, please go to the -es or -pt
[04:54] <ERRY111> Can someone help me with FrostWire
[04:54] <ERRY111> ?
[04:54] <Jucato> oslo: right-click on an empty part of the panel?
[04:54] <skavenge> ERRY111: what about it?
[04:54] <ERRY111> It won't open
[04:54] <ERRY111> I've just installed it and now it won't open
[04:54] <skavenge> ERRY111: do you have java installed?
[04:55] <oslo> i don't have the Add a panel option ...
[04:55] <ERRY111> i don't think so. where would i get java
[04:55] <skavenge> !java
[04:55] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:55] <Jucato> oslo: err.. Add Applet to Panel
[04:55] <skavenge> ERRY111: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre, as long as the multiverse repository is activated
[04:56] <victor> ai algun espaol
[04:56] <oslo> Jucato> i dont have this one ..im on a french version
[04:56] <victor> como?
[04:56] <Jucato> oslo: that would be the first option from the top when you right-click a panel?
[04:57] <alumno_> puro ingleses
[04:57] <victor> xd si
[04:57] <zorgluuu> mouaouaoua
[04:59] <oslo> Jucato> 4 me the first is add a folder ...but i do alt+F2 and i exex kicker and it came back
[05:00] <Jucato> oslo: have you tried the French channels? I'm not sure how to translate that into French...
[05:01] <pointy> so, anyone upgraded to konversation 1.0 yet?
[05:01] <oslo> Jucato> its fine now its ok thanks to the kubuntu french channel, but it was the entire tray who disapeared, not only few applets...have a nice day
[05:01] <pointy> the changelog is insanely long :)
[05:01] <Jucato> oslo: ah. I misinterpreted your problem. sorry...
[05:02] <milco> kubuntu doesnt come with gcc?
[05:02] <skavenge> milco: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:03] <milco> thanks a million :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[05:03] <Jucato> heh
[05:03] <ERRY111> FrostWire still won't run. And i've got the newest version of java running
[05:03] <milco> Jucato: ?
[05:04] <Jucato> so many ))) :D
[05:04] <milco> 'cant find X-includes' :(
[05:04] <skavenge> ERRY111: run it from commandline and see if you get an error
[05:04] <milco> Jucato: what is a men without a good C compiler huh? you tell me :P
[05:05] <ERRY111> How do i do that?
[05:05] <skavenge> milco: try !compile in thee channel, will give you the wiki link for the package names of the x includes etc
[05:05] <milco> i have a ISO file which is in a different format then iso9660 im afraid
[05:05] <skavenge> ERRY111: open a terminal and type 'frostwire'
[05:05] <milco> is there something like ultraiso/maginiso or isobuster for linux?
[05:05] <ERRY111> i got an error
[05:06] <skavenge> saying?
[05:06] <ERRY111> that i need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x
[05:06] <ERRY111> or newer from www.java.com
[05:06] <skavenge> hm
[05:06] <skavenge> !java
[05:06] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:08] <skavenge> ERRY111: try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[05:09] <ERRY111> it says sun-java5-bin is already the newest version.
[05:09] <g-henna> hi everyone
[05:10] <milco> !compile
[05:10] <g-henna> i have a problem: just since 15 minutes, every time i login to kde, i get shown to 'first-login' screen, where i am supposed to select language etc.
[05:10] <skavenge> ERRY111: it must want the blackdown one, try sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[05:10] <g-henna> although my ~/.kde folder is fine, i have my files, my desktop icons and everything
[05:11] <g-henna> what is it that causes this screen to appear and where can i disable this?
[05:13] <ERRY111> Nope, FrostWire still won't load
[05:13] <ERRY111> !FrostWire
[05:15] <skavenge> i would maybe try making sure what java is being used, instructions to set it are on the link under the !java bang in the channel, or trying an x restart
[05:16] <skavenge> i only have the blackdown one installed and it seems to run for me
[05:16] <jmichaelx> can anyone tell me which repo needs to be anabled to get libvisual-0.4-plugins ?
[05:17] <skavenge> !info libvisual-0.4-plugins
[05:17] <ubotu> libvisual-0.4-plugins: Audio visualization framework plugins. In component amarok, is optional. Version 0.4.0.dfsg.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper-imbrandon), package size 126 kB, installed size 433 kB
[05:17] <Healot> !info bchunk
[05:17] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:18] <skavenge> !dapper-imbrandon
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapper-imbrandon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <jmichaelx> hmm
[05:19] <skavenge> it looks like its on imbrandon's repo or something
[05:19] <skavenge> !imbrandon
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imbrandon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <skavenge> i dont know the link though
[05:19] <jmichaelx> yeah... i will have to figure out what that is. he has a webiste
[05:19] <jmichaelx> website*
[05:20] <jmichaelx> it is no biggie, i am just trying to get visualizations to work in amarok
[05:25] <knob> hello all
[05:25] <octan> hi
[05:26] <knob> i've just extracted ndiswrapper using tar xvzf ndiswrapper-1.7.tar.gz
[05:26] <archangel_> what sup folks
[05:26] <archangel_> shalom
[05:26] <knob> i cd into it
[05:26] <knob> but there is no make file
[05:26] <knob> or make install or however u do it
[05:26] <knob> anyonegots any ideas?
[05:26] <archangel_> I need some help with setting a printer
[05:27] <Jucato> knob: there might be a README or INSTALL file there that would give you instructions?
[05:27] <archangel_> my printer is in the list but still wants to print to file
[05:28] <milco> does kubuntu come with a bittorrent client?
[05:28] <archangel_> yes
[05:28] <Jucato> milco: yes. KTorrent
[05:28] <Jucato> milco: you can upgrade KTorrent to the latest version (2.0.1) by enabling the dapper-backports line in your sources.list
[05:28] <milco> big thanks Jucato!! :)
[05:29] <Jucato> don't I get :))))))) too? hehehe! kidding
[05:29] <milco> i think that ive enabled those..
[05:29] <Jucato> you might want to. KTorrent 2.0.1 has some bug fixes
[05:29] <milco> i already gave a :-))))))))))))))) and a million thanks, but no big one jet
[05:29] <milco> feel honored k!
[05:29] <milco> ;D
[05:29] <Jucato> heheh
[05:29] <jmichaelx> is there a way to dist-upgrade to edgy at this point?
[05:29] <archangel_> Jucato: could help me with my printer setup?
[05:30] <Jucato> archangel_: unfortunately I can't... I don't even have a printer myself... so I'm not the person that could help... :(
[05:30] <skavenge> btw ktorrent 2.0.2 kubuntu debs are on thier website ..
[05:30] <archangel_> Jucato: ahh, ok thanx dude
[05:30] <Jucato> skavenge: aah nice! but I prefer to be on the safe side and use the reps. ehehe :D
[05:31] <skavenge> np just thought id mention
[05:31] <Jucato> yeah thanks for mentioning it too
[05:31] <httpdss> jmichaelx, yes just change the repos to edgy ..
[05:31] <jmichaelx> httpdss: ty
[05:31] <Jucato> er.. I wouldn't recommend that
[05:32] <xtrm> hi
[05:32] <xtrm> need help plz
[05:32] <xtrm> unable to update my nvidia drivers
[05:32] <Jucato> jmichaelx: are you trying to upgrade your main system to edgy?
[05:32] <archangel_> can anyone offer any help to setup a printer?
[05:33] <httpdss> jmichaelx, wouldnt recommend it either ...
[05:33] <Jucato> jmichaelx: you can either install Edgy through something like VMWare or Qemu, or install it on a separate partition.
[05:33] <jmichaelx> httpdss: the PC i am using at the moment is one i use to experiment on....an old P3
[05:34] <Jucato> jmichaelx: or that :D
[05:34] <Jucato> jmichaelx: edgy-backports don't contain anything yet, so you can safely disable/comment them out
[05:34] <jmichaelx> ok, thanks for the tips :-D
[05:34] <xtrm> sysinfo
[05:35] <xtrm> Sysinfo for 'xtrm-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2800+ at 2088 MHz (4180 bogomips), , RAM: 440/503MB, 100 proc's, 21.33min up
[05:35] <Jucato> xtrm: what do you mean by "can't upgrade"?
[05:35] <Jucato> s/upgrade/update
[05:35] <httpdss> jmichaelx, well then ... go ahead .. the usplash can be impresive :P
[05:36] <knob> do u need to be under root to use the 'make' or 'make install' command because when i do sudo -i to get into root it doesnt ask for the password
[05:36] <jmichaelx> sysinfo
[05:36] <Jucato> knob: not make, but "sudo make install" but I don't recommend using "make install"
[05:37] <Jucato> knob: use "checkinstall" instead, after you have done "make". (you need to install the "checkinstall" packages first)
[05:37] <knob> what do u use then
[05:37] <jmichaelx> how do you get that sysinfo to work? lol
[05:37] <staj> heloo
[05:37] <evert> Hello , is there a way to get my 'creative zen microphoto' working under linux ? I need the music that's stored on it :)
[05:37] <Jucato> knob: here's a quick guide in compiling using ./configure, make, and checkinstall: http://jucato.multiply.com/journal/item/33
[05:37] <Jucato> jmichaelx: type in /sysinfo
[05:37] <knob> jucato: cheers
[05:38] <jmichaelx> ahh, ty
[05:38] <knob> i shall check it out
[05:38] <jmichaelx> Sysinfo for 'kubuntu2': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: PentiumIII(Katmai) at 498 MHz (998 bogomips), , RAM: 373/376MB, 109 proc's, 13.52h up
[05:39] <Jucato> knob: the advantage of using checkinstall is that checkinstall will make a .deb file for you and automatically install the package. and you can easily remove that package by doing "dpkg -r <package>"
[05:40] <knob> nice one jacto
[05:40] <knob> jucato
[05:40] <knob> thing is
[05:40] <knob> after running apt-get install build-essential checkinstall it cant find either package
[05:40] <knob> i think so,
[05:40] <knob> somethings wronghere
[05:40] <fdoving> they are already installed, if that's what you mean.
[05:42] <Daskreech2_> Blast
[05:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[05:43] <winXperts> sysinfo
[05:43] <Kr4t05> Question.
[05:43] <Kr4t05> Say I wanted to get Fluxbox. Would I be able to apt-get install fluxbuntu-desktop yet?
[05:44] <Jucato> Kr4t05: I don't think a package like that exists yet
[05:44] <Kr4t05> Bah/
[05:44] <Jucato> but you can probably apt-get install fluxbox
[05:44] <Jucato> !fluxbox
[05:44] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[05:44] <fdoving> Kr4t05: you can apt-get install fluxbox though.
[05:44] <fdoving> !info fluxbox dapper
[05:44] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[05:44] <skavenge> it doesnt, being worked on as we speak afaik though
[05:44] <fdoving> !info fluxbox edgy
[05:44] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (edgy), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[05:45] <DaSkreech> skavenge: Serious?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> skavenge: That's kind of silly isnt' it?
[05:45] <knob> jucato: u about mate?
[05:45] <skavenge> about fluxbuntu? yeah theres a team working on it now
[05:45] <DaSkreech> skavenge: And no one thinks that's silly?
[05:46] <skavenge> *shrug* i dunno apparently someone wants it if theres a team on it and ppl are asking if the option is there, i dont use it myself
[05:47] <Kr4t05> DaSkreech: fluxbuntu exhists for the same reasons as Xubuntu
[05:47] <BluesKaj> !TV Tuner Dapper
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about TV Tuner Dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <Kr4t05> Some people just like fluxbox more. Also, it uses less resources than even XFCE (in some cases)
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Kr4t05: Xubuntu can almost be considered a desktop I'm not so sure about Fluxbox
[05:48] <Kr4t05> !mythtv > BluesKaj
[05:48] <Jucato> Xfce IS a desktop
[05:48] <Kr4t05> DaSkreech: Oh well, I'm just looking for an environment I can use when I game.
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Kr4t05: TWM! :)
[05:49] <BluesKaj> Kr4t05, yeah got it thx
[05:49] <Kr4t05> DaSkreech: pardon?
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Kr4t05: Joke :)
[05:49] <Kr4t05> Oh
[05:49] <Kr4t05> Ok
[05:49] <Kr4t05> BRB
[05:50] <Healot> i hope CDE is libre, someday, this one ugly desktop that I love
[05:51] <DaSkreech> Healot: Serious?
[05:51] <DaSkreech> You like CDE?
[05:52] <Healot> yeah
[05:52] <Healot> my first desktop, for Sun's sake
[05:53] <Healot> crikey!
[05:53] <archangel_> can anyone here setup a printer?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> !printer
[05:53] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:53] <archangel_> thanx I'll try again
[05:54] <knob> jucato?
[05:54] <knob> jucato: u about
[05:54] <Jucato> knob: yep. just got back
[05:54] <knob> soz man
[05:55] <knob> but sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall
[05:55] <knob> doesnt work for some reason
[05:55] <knob> cant find em
[05:55] <sephzero> hello :( anyone can help? :(
[05:55] <Jucato> knob: have you been able to install anything using apt-get or Adept?
[05:55] <knob> umm
[05:55] <knob> not under apt
[05:56] <Jucato> knob: your repositories might still be disabled, that's why apt couldn't find those packages
[05:56] <knob> ahh
[05:56] <knob> how do i enable them?
[05:56] <Jucato> specifically the "main" repositories
[05:56] <Jucato> knob: you can launch Adept (from K Menu > System) then go to the Adept menu and select Manage Repositories
[05:57] <knob> it wasnt plugged onto the network during install and said something about trying apt
[05:57] <Jucato> knob: yeah. your repositories will be disabled if you installed without an internet connection
[05:57] <knob> could this be related to the make or make install of ndiswrapper?
[05:58] <Jucato> knob: you won't be able to compile anything without build-essential
[05:58] <TheFuzzball> hello, how do I open KDM in Xnest?
[05:59] <knob> how do i enable the reps?
[05:59] <knob> i;'m in adept
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !ask > sephzero
[05:59] <knob> then adept/manage
[05:59] <naegling23> does anyone know anything about libmtp?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> TheFuzzball: Install Xnest?
[05:59] <sephzero> i have problems with installing libs and programs..
[06:00] <sephzero> i've just installed kubuntu:)
[06:00] <TheFuzzball> DaSkreech: I have, what would be the command after?
[06:00] <Jucato> knob: you will see some grayed out lines. to enable lines, you right-click on them and select Enable. you need to enable these lines:
[06:00] <jan___> hello guys
[06:00] <DaSkreech> sephzero: What are your problems??
[06:00] <jan___> i am new to linux on kubuntu
[06:00] <Jucato> those starting with "deb" (not deb-src) and have "main restricted" near the end EXCEPT "dapper-backports"
[06:00] <DaSkreech> TheFuzzball: not sure I never got that far :)
[06:00] <sephzero> i've tried to install vlc
[06:00] <jan___> i have a file in windows c:
[06:00] <jan___> i need to copy that to /var
[06:01] <sephzero> doin this.. sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd
[06:01] <jan___> how do i do that
[06:01] <sephzero> like the official website of vlc tells to do..
[06:01] <jan___> i have a dual boot disk
[06:01] <DaSkreech> jan___: can you check under /media to see if your hard drive is mounted there?
[06:01] <sephzero> but it gave me errors..about libraries do not able to be installed
[06:01] <jan___> ok daskreech ill try that
[06:02] <DaSkreech> sephzero: Can You pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:02] <knob> worked it out cheetd
[06:02] <DaSkreech> !pastebin
[06:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> sephzero: I think that you may not have some repos enabled
[06:02] <sephzero> ok..
[06:02] <sephzero> i try
[06:02] <jan___> daSkreech : there is nothing in mnt
[06:03] <DaSkreech> jan___: /media
[06:03] <jan___> sorry :)
[06:03] <Jucato> knob: once you have done that, click on Apply at the bottom, then Fetch Updates at the top
[06:03] <knob> jucato: i'm trying to be very careful about updates
[06:03] <Jucato> knob: in that case, just enable this one particular line
[06:03] <knob> basically, the reason i resinstalled was it seemed an update knocked out my wireless card
[06:04] <Jucato> knob: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted"
[06:04] <sephzero> wait..i think i've enabled them right now :)
[06:04] <sephzero> it seems to be installed right now :)
[06:04] <sephzero> being installed*
[06:05] <milco> my 400GB external drive gets a 'usb-stick' icon on my desktop.. this is kinda gay :P
[06:05] <jan___> daSkreech :
[06:05] <jan___> there are no files in media as well, just two files called cdrom and cdrom0 and nothing inside that
[06:06] <milco> how do i change the default icon for this media?
[06:06] <knob> jucato: i'm trying to be very careful about updates
[06:06] <knob> jucato: opps ive enabled that one and it still cant find the packages
[06:07] <sephzero> installed! :D
[06:07] <sephzero> to add mp3 support? :(
[06:07] <Jucato> knob: did click on Apply (at the bottom) then Fetch Updates (at the top)?
[06:07] <jan___> daSkreech : any ideas
[06:07] <sephzero> i've tried to do it..but it is not enabled :(
[06:07] <knob> yeh, do i then have to install updates
[06:07] <knob> sorry for the newbie replies
[06:07] <knob> kubuntu was working great until one day the wireless stopped but i only use it for net/office
[06:08] <Jucato> knob: fetch updates is the same as "sudo apt-get update", you don't actually install anything.
[06:08] <sephzero> !mp3
[06:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:08] <Jucato> knob: you are just updating your apt
[06:08] <knob> ok kool
[06:08] <jan___> hey guys any help on copying a file from my dual boot win to linux
[06:08] <DaSkreech> jan___: Ok can you go to KMenu -> System Settings -> Disk and File systems
[06:09] <jan___> ok D
[06:09] <DaSkreech> sephzero: Good picking up :)
[06:09] <knob> ran the update
[06:10] <knob> still cant find package
[06:10] <knob> s
[06:10] <Jucato> er...
[06:10] <jan___> DaSkreech : i am in disk ad file system  what do i do now..
[06:11] <klerfayt> package name that let's me change kdm theme?
[06:11] <Jucato> knob: using pastebin, can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:11] <Jucato> !pastebin
[06:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:11] <DaSkreech> jan___: Do you see your Windows hard drive?
[06:11] <jan___> yup
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Ok is there a green dot beside it?
[06:12] <jan___> no
[06:13] <knob> jucato:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22534
[06:13] <sephzero> yes!!!
[06:13] <sephzero> mp3 support added! ;)
[06:13] <sephzero> anyone of u connects Playstation Portable with Kubuntu?
[06:13] <jan___> there are two green dots beside my linux partition
[06:14] <DaSkreech> jan___: Want to just do a quick mount then?
[06:14] <jan___> how would i do that
[06:14] <DaSkreech> sephzero: good question
[06:14] <sephzero> i connect it
[06:14] <Jucato> knob: ah I see, try switching the "gb." to "uk."
[06:14] <sephzero> but i have problems :(
[06:14] <DaSkreech> jan___: make a Directory that you want to mount it to
[06:14] <knob> on everyone?
[06:14] <Healot> sephzero: just plug, and the psp will mount as a disk ;-
[06:15] <sephzero> yes
[06:15] <sephzero> but i have problems removing files from psp using ubuntu filebrowser
[06:15] <sephzero> and problems transferring files from ubuntu to psp using ubuntu..
[06:15] <jan___> daskreech: i am new to linux, sorry about the stupid question, how do i make dir
[06:15] <sephzero> transfers from psp to ubuntu working great anyway
[06:16] <knob> jucato: its downloading them now
[06:16] <knob> the files u recommened
[06:16] <Jucato> good
[06:16] <DaSkreech> jan___: From the command line you can just mkdir /path/to/folder
[06:18] <jan___> daskreech : ok ive mad a dir what do i do next
[06:19] <DaSkreech> I'm guessing it's an NTFS drive?
[06:19] <jan___> i think so
[06:21] <will> Hi, i cant log in to my su account can anyone tell me the default password?
[06:21] <sephzero> see u later :)
[06:21] <w1w1t0m1> hello, I want to install vim 7, I tried http://www.freshnet.org/debian/dapper/vim7/ but I get error message after installing all of those .deb files (instead of vim-all and vim-gnome ...i use kubuntu). can anybody help?
[06:21] <jan___> daskreech : how do i get to mnt it the directory
[06:21] <Healot> there isn't any password for user root, for default install
[06:22] <Healot> !root > will
[06:22] <w1w1t0m1> ...i get error message by starting gvim...
[06:22] <DaSkreech> jan___: can you look at the drive in Disk and File systems and under the coloumn type tell me what file system it is?
[06:23] <will> i type su in the console, it says password:i typed root and !root and nothing happens it says no..
[06:24] <Healot> !root
[06:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:24] <Jucato> heh beat me to it
[06:24] <DaSkreech> will: It's asking for YOUR password
[06:24] <obf213> l
[06:24] <DaSkreech> And use sudo su
[06:24] <Jucato> DaSkreech: isn't sudo -i more recommended?
[06:24] <jan___> daskreech: under the column type it only says ext3 swap and auto in descending order
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Yeah yeah :)
[06:25] <DaSkreech> jan___: ..
[06:25] <DaSkreech> jan___: no vfat fat32 or NTFS?
[06:25] <jan___> nope
[06:25] <ubuntux1> i wanna prelink only firefox in kubuntu....how do i do this?
[06:26] <jan___> daskreech : it dosent say anything lile fat or ntfs
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Jucato: is there a file with a list of all the Devices attached to the system. Mounted or not?
[06:27] <knob> jucato: lol i've got another prob if u got 2 ticks?
[06:27] <Jucato> err.. not really sure
[06:27] <Jucato> err... gtg
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Jucato: haha OK later
[06:27] <knob> ok
[06:27] <knob> np
[06:27] <DaSkreech> jan___: can You pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[06:27] <knob> cheers for your help earlier
[06:27] <DaSkreech> !pastebin
[06:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:28] <knob> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22535
[06:29] <knob> can someone look @ my pastebin and tell me what i'm doing wrong
[06:30] <jan___> daskreech:
[06:30] <jan___> isk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[06:30] <jan___> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[06:30] <DaSkreech> jan___: Use pastebin
[06:30] <jan___> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[06:30] <jan___>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:30] <jan___> /dev/sda1               1         509     4088511   12  Compaq diagnostics
[06:30] <DaSkreech> jan___: Stoppppp :)
[06:30] <jan___> /dev/sda2   *         510        7519    56307825    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[06:31] <jan___> /dev/sda3            7520       14302    54484447+  83  Linux
[06:31] <jan___> /dev/sda4           14303       14593     2337457+   5  Extended
[06:31] <jan___> /dev/sda5           14303       14593     2337426   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[06:31] <jan___> Disk /dev/sdb: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes
[06:31] <jan___> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4864 cylinders
[06:31] <jan___> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[06:31] <jan___>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:31] <jan___> /dev/sdb1               2        4863    39054015    f  W95 Ext'd
[06:31] <jan___> ok :)
[06:31] <DaSkreech> !pastebin
[06:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Paste it there and then give me the resulting URL
[06:31] <Healot> wtf
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Healot: Ignorance :) Let it die
[06:32] <jan___> wheres paste bin :)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Look up. It's the URL that ubotu gave
[06:33] <staj> alguem trabalha com linux 64bits
[06:34] <Healot> !es
[06:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:34] <Healot> or was it espanol?
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> its spanish
[06:35] <jan___> daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22537
[06:35] <DaSkreech> jan___: Thanks
[06:35] <Healot> portugese and spanish really confuse me...
[06:35] <jan___> daskreech: wow lot to learn on linux :)
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> actually it is portugse.
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> and i can't spell
[06:36] <knob> i;m having a prob with this
[06:36] <knob> oot@knob-laptop:~/ndiswrapper-1.7# make
[06:36] <DaSkreech> jan___: You have two drives in the machine?
[06:36] <knob> make -C driver
[06:36] <knob> make[1] : Entering directory `/root/ndiswrapper-1.7/driver'
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i was confused because i thought there was a typo
[06:36] <knob> Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build;
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> knob, stob!
[06:36] <knob>   give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path>             argument to make
[06:36] <knob> make[1] : *** [prereq_check]  Error 1
[06:36] <knob> make[1] : Leaving directory `/root/ndiswrapper-1.7/driver'
[06:36] <knob> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[06:36] <knob> root@knob-laptop:~/ndiswrapper-1.7#
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> stop
[06:36] <knob> can anyone tell me why @ all as its doing my head in
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste
[06:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:37] <jan___> one hard drive and one usb plugged in..
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> use that from now on
[06:37] <Hawkwind> knob: Don't paste to the channel please.  Use the pastebin
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Ah. Hmm ok Which one is windows on?
[06:37] <httpdss> knob, any reason you dont do it the m-a way ??
[06:37] <knob> admiral_chicago: mate would u mind having a look @ this for me please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22535
[06:37] <Hawkwind> knob: Do you have build-essential installed ?
[06:37] <jan___> daskreech : do you want me to remove the usb and send u the link again
[06:37] <knob> i do have build essentyial installed
[06:37] <knob> just installed it
[06:38] <DaSkreech> jan___: Which one is windows on?
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> yea man i'll look it
[06:38] <knob> just checked, build-essential definatly done
[06:38] <jan___> daskreech: sda2 is win
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> knob, have you tried this with a different kernel?
[06:38] <knob> ummm
[06:39] <knob> i've just installed kubuntu
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> that is the only thing i can think of, but i don't do much wireless stuff
[06:39] <staj> eu tambem estou com o ubuntu
[06:39] <staj> mas devido nao ter muitos sw pra compilacao 64 bits
[06:39] <knob> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[06:39] <staj> fica meio complicado de usar
[06:40] <jan___> daskreech : w95 fat32 is windows
[06:40] <httpdss> that is definitelly not spanish ... its portugues
[06:40] <DaSkreech> jan___: Ok I'm going to assume that the NTFS section is the C:
[06:40] <DaSkreech> jan___: ok If you say so :)
[06:40] <knob> admiral_chicago: on that site it says about headers and kernal in the first paragraph but i cant work out whats it's on about
[06:40] <Healot> i told you it was portugese ;-
[06:40] <staj> iam sorry
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> knob, yea hold on
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> !ph
[06:40] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[06:40] <knob> cheers
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> !pt
[06:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:40] <DaSkreech> jan___: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /path/to/folder
[06:41] <Healot> or
[06:41] <Healot> !br
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> knob, let me take a look
[06:41] <staj> thanks
[06:41] <knob> kk
[06:41] <knob> cheers
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Jucato still is ab it mad about that
[06:41] <Jucato> just got back...
[06:41] <Jucato> mad about what?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> !ph
[06:41] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[06:41] <gil> i want to copy protect a cd that i burned
[06:42] <gil> how do i do that in dapper
[06:42] <gil> ?
[06:42] <Jucato> aaah
[06:42] <DaSkreech> gil: You mean so that noone will delete that files from it?
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> knob, you need a higher kernel
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> you have 2.6.1 and you need at least 2.6.6
[06:42] <knob> ok
[06:42] <Jucato> DaSkreech: seems like our LoCo team leader doesn't care/mind about it
[06:42] <knob> so i need to upgrade
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Jucato: You wrote them?
[06:43] <Jucato> DaSkreech: that response for !ph?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Si
[06:43] <jan___> daskreech : wow great man... thanks a bunch i can see the win dir in linux
[06:43] <Admiral_Chicago> knob,  scartch that
[06:44] <knob> no?
[06:44] <DaSkreech> jan___: Yup. You can mount any file system like that
[06:44] <DaSkreech> jan___: Even CD images on the drive
[06:44] <jan___> daskreech: thanks a lot for the immense patience :)
[06:44] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no. I brought up the matter to our LoCo leader, but said, it wouldn't matter if we changed that response
[06:44] <DaSkreech> jan___: If you want you can cahnge some thigns so that it always mounts on start up
[06:44] <gil> DaSkreech: no i want to copy protect a cd that i am about to burn
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Huh? How was that justified?
[06:45] <gil> want no one to burn it
[06:45] <jan___> how would i do that
[06:45] <knob> admiral_chicago: mate?
[06:45] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I don't know with him. I didn't argue...
[06:45] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on
[06:45] <knob> ok cheers
[06:45] <knob> :d
[06:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm having to fight with this window
[06:45] <jan___> daskreech : how would i change somting when it starts up
[06:46] <DaSkreech> jan___: I think that you can just enable it in Disk and Filesystems
[06:46] <Jucato> knob: you can use the Tab completion so you won't have trouble spelling people's nicks. type in "Adm" then press [Tab] 
[06:46] <knob> Jucato: ahh sweet never knew that
[06:46] <DaSkreech> jan___: You may want to man fstab for more control
[06:47] <Jucato> sure no problem. btw, Admiral_Chicago might know this stuff better. so I'll leave you in his capable hands. alright with you?
[06:47] <knob> yup
[06:47] <knob> :D
[06:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, not really, i don't know too much about this
[06:47] <Jucato> I have to go to sleep soon, anyway... almost 1am :D
[06:47] <Admiral_Chicago> but it looks like a kernel problem
[06:47] <knob> did u check that site Admiral_Chicago?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Night Jucato Of the Beautiful Women ;o)
[06:47] <Jucato> lol
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> but knob on the wiki about ndiswrapper it says you need a recent kernel
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> 2.6.6 or better
[06:48] <knob> i have 2.6.15 dont ui
[06:48] <knob> i?
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> you have 2.6.15
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> yen
[06:48] <jan___> daskreech: thanks a lot
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> so you might want to investigate how to update your kernel past what the repos
[06:48] <knob> Admiral_Chicago:  what does that mean then
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> repos have
[06:48] <DaSkreech> jan___: Sure come back here if you need anythign
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> !kernel
[06:49] <knob> isnt it something to do with the linking that it talks about
[06:49] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> that too
[06:49] <knob> i dont know if this is a ndiswrapper issue but an install issue full stop?
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> but first the kernel, then the linking
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> go to chi.ubuntu-us.org
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a forum there, leave me a message
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> knob, i have to go to class though
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> ttul
[06:50] <knob> ok man cheers for that
[06:50] <Hawkwind> If the page says he needs atleast a 2.6.6 kernel and he has 2.6.15 why would he need to upgrade his kernel ?
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> becaue 6 > 15
[06:50] <Hawkwind> 2.6.15 is definitely higher than 2.6.6
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm retarted
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> ignore me
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, can you helyp
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> help him, i have to go
[06:51] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: I can certainly try :)
[06:51] <skavenge> ndiswrapper is on the cd, in the ndiswrapper-utils package
[06:51] <skavenge> so you shouldnt have to install it off sourceforge anyway
[06:52] <Jucato> Hawkwind is great. listen to him :D
[06:52] <knob> i do appreciate any help
[06:52] <knob> it's ma headache things like this
[06:53] <knob> before i reinstalled kubuntu it just seemed to work, installing things, wireless etc etc, i think an upgrade knockedm out my wireless and for love nor money i couldnt get it to work again
[06:54] <sean> anyone there ?
[06:54] <Hawkwind> sean: No
[06:54] <knob> lol
[06:54] <sean> lol
[06:54] <Jucato> lol?
[06:54] <knob> Hawkwind: have u managed to see my pastebin?
[06:54] <Jucato> catching up with 179 unread feeds...
[06:54] <sean> I could do with some  help  if anyone  wants to hear my problem
[06:55] <Hawkwind> knob: I haven't used ndiswrapper in well over a year, thankfully, so I'm not familiar enough with it anymore.
[06:55] <Hawkwind> knob: But what you need to do is install ndiswrapper from the Ubuntu repos, and not compile it from source
[06:55] <knob> is this an ndiswrapper issue?
[06:55] <knob> is it available under repos?
[06:55] <Hawkwind> knob: Give me your pastebin URL again
[06:55] <Hawkwind> knob: Absolutely
[06:55] <Hawkwind> sean: Just ask your question
[06:55] <lupine_85> Hawkwind: the repository's ndiswrapper is 1.8 -  sf.net is up to 1.23
[06:55] <knob> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22535
[06:56] <Hawkwind> knob: ndiswrapper-utils - Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper
[06:57] <knob> Hawkwind: ok it's installed.. what the hell i was messing around with a manual install i will never know
[06:57] <Hawkwind> knob: When you do the 'make' command you need to supply the path to your sources on that line as well
[06:57] <knob> i'vb
[06:57] <Hawkwind> knob: Ah ok.  Now you should follow the ndiswrapper how-to then
[06:57] <knob> ok cool
[06:57] <knob> cheers
[06:57] <sean> ok...   /dev/dsp   is busy or inuse  apparantly  so  i cant   get  any sound...  I   tried removing  /dev/dsp  and  using " ./MAKEDEV audio"  and  it   temporarily  fixed it  now  the  same thing  has  happened only   this time ./MAKEDEV audio  doesn't  help ???
[06:57] <knob> wish me luck
[06:58] <dvayanu> someone managed to connect sonyericson P900 with kdepim?
[06:59] <Hawkwind> sean: Have you tried fuser -k /dev/dsp ?  You might need to prefix it with sudo
[06:59] <sean>  no
[07:00] <Hawkwind> sean: I think removing /dev/dsp is probably the wrong thing to do.  Assuming you mean you have deleted it
[07:01] <sean> yes i deleted it  (  read on a forum that it was a solution))
[07:01] <nathan> Hi all, 1st time irc user here... quick question, is this an appropriate forum to ask a kde/Qt programming question in?
[07:02] <abattoir> nathan: i guess #kde-devel or #qt
[07:02] <Hawkwind> nathan: Possibly.  Ask the question, if it's not we might redirect you
[07:02] <nathan> cheers :)
[07:02] <abattoir> nathan: there is also qt-forum.org, which is pretty active :)
[07:02] <abattoir> nathan: anyways, what was your question?
[07:03] <sean> What does  " fuser -k /dev/dsp "  do ?
[07:03] <leonrott> kubuntu will have xgl support in the system settings???
[07:03] <lupine_85> sean: tells you who/what is using the file /dev/dsp
[07:03] <nathan> well, just trying to do some file handling using Qt and I'm getting the following: main.cpp:21: error: IO_ReadOnly was not declared in this scope
[07:03] <lupine_85> man fuser will give you more info
[07:03] <Hawkwind> sean: It kills anything that is using /dev/dsp
[07:03] <sean> i got  no  reply  once  i typed it in
[07:04] <Hawkwind> fuser -m tells you *who* is using it
[07:04] <lupine_85> ah, -k :)
[07:04] <nathan> its a real basic bit of file handling, straight from Qt tutorial code
[07:04] <Hawkwind> sean: You won't get a reply
[07:04] <lupine_85> gotcha
[07:04] <abattoir> nathan: hmm, ok
[07:05] <sean> hawkwind :  still nothing
[07:05] <sean> here is the error ...
[07:05] <sean> Sound server informational message:
[07:05] <sean> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[07:05] <sean> device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy)
[07:05] <sean> The sound server will continue, using the null output device.
[07:05] <angasule> !add user
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about add user - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <nathan> created project with qmake -project; qmake and then make.
[07:07] <knob> Hawkwind: ummm i think i may have a bit of a prob, think i need 1.7
[07:07] <sean> any other ideas ?
[07:08] <knob> do u think i could get the 1.7 by repoS?
[07:08] <DaSkreech> leonrott: Where did you hear that?
[07:08] <lupine_85> knob: ther repos has 1.8 in
[07:08] <nathan> I've #included qfile, instantiated a qfile object and used it earlier but when it hits the following is when it dies: if( !f.open( IO_ReadOnly ) )
[07:08] <lupine_85> as for why it wouldn't compile when you tried last... it's because you  ran "ln -s /usr/src/linux-<2.6.15-26-386> /lib/modules/VERSION/bu"
[07:09] <akrus> hello everyone :)
[07:09] <akrus> can someone tell me about this
[07:09] <knob> lupine_85: and not the end version /VERSION/???
[07:09] <lupine_85> ...that's not a command. First, get rid of the < and >. Secondly, it's /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build
[07:09] <akrus> I have the Card Reader. I inserted my SD card, Linux detected it okay, but in 'My Pictures' there're many images missing. How to find them? :)
[07:10] <sean> hawkwind -   what else can i try ?
[07:10] <lupine_85> if you're using the linux headers instead of the linux source, then you should have /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[07:10] <knob> ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.15-26-386 /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build
[07:10] <knob> like that?
[07:11] <lupine_85> yes, assuming your kernel is 2.6.15-26-386, and you've got the linux source (rather than the linux headers) installed
[07:11] <knob> shall i change it to headers
[07:11] <lupine_85> yes - so ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build
[07:12] <Hawkwind> sean: I really don't know.  Sound is not my strong point
[07:12] <lupine_85> why are you trying ndiswrapper 1.7, anyway?
[07:12] <lupine_85> 1.23 is the latest version
[07:12] <leonrott> kubuntu will have xgl support in the system settings???
[07:12] <knob> lupine_85: because the set of instructions that i have that worked before are for 1,7
[07:13] <knob> i've got 1.8 installed under reps but it's giving me erros when i add the drivers
[07:13] <lupine_85> ah, ok
[07:13] <skavenge> leonrott: when? not in edgy no i dont think so
[07:13] <lupine_85> stick with what you know to work :)
[07:13] <sean> hawk   i just  did  Isof | grep dsp   and  got this .....
[07:13] <sean> bayonne.b  8303       root   11u      CHR       14,3                9836 /dev/dsp (deleted)
[07:13] <skavenge> knob: whate error is 1.8 giving you?
[07:14] <knob> can i paste the small amount or do i need to use pastebin?
[07:14] <leonrott> skavenge: mandriva have support in kdecontrol and looks very good
[07:14] <skavenge> if its more than a line or so you need to pastebin
[07:14] <skavenge> leonrott: well afaik ubuntu wont
[07:14] <leonrott> skavenge: i want it in my kubuntu hehe
[07:15] <DaSkreech> leonrott: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:15] <adz21c> anyone have any idea why when I try to play a DVD (or probably anything for that matter) with 4.0 and up audio set in xine it says "Audio device unavailable. Device is Busy()"?
[07:15] <knob> skavenge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22539
[07:15] <leonrott> skavenge: i am waiting for real support for xgl in kubuntu
[07:16] <DaSkreech> leonrott: But I think that they need hackers fo System Settings so If you want to volunteer :)
[07:16] <skavenge> thats the point
[07:16] <skavenge> its not ubuntu's doing is kde's, so mandriva has obviously done something to thier kde version
[07:17] <CatSoup> What do I do if xine can't initialize any audio drivers?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> skavenge: So does Kubuntu
[07:17] <knob> skavenge: any ideas mate?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> !sound
[07:17] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:17] <skavenge> knob: what command are you using to install the drivers? are are you sure your using the right ones?
[07:17] <leonrott> DaSkreech: hehehe i  like it but i'm not a hacker hehehe
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Ahhh We need a !ksound
[07:18] <knob> skavenge: ndiswrapper -i
[07:18] <skavenge> DaSkreech: so does kubuntu what?
[07:18] <DaSkreech> leonrott: Well If you are interested in it. Can't kill you to look at ti :)
[07:18] <DaSkreech> skavenge: Make it's own changes to KDE
[07:18] <DaSkreech> Like System Settings :)
[07:18] <skavenge> DaSkreech: yeah my point was i hadn't heard anything about them adding an option to system settings
[07:18] <dhq> ubotu: !edgy
[07:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:19] <skavenge> knob: just ndiswrapper -i or ndiswrapper -i driver.inf?  you need to specify the .inf file
[07:19] <dhq> is edgy is the next version after drapper
[07:19] <knob> skavenge: yeh i'm specifing with the directory name and driver
[07:20] <DaSkreech> skavenge: as I said they need hackers for systems settings. There are some bugs in it I want out as well
[07:21] <Jucato> DaSkreech: it'd be great if you could file the bugs or vote/confirm on existing ones
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I was trying to hunt it down on LP but There was some confusion on that and I let ti go then forgot about it
[07:22] <DaSkreech>  Still annoys me though
[07:22] <Jucato> DaSkreech: which one? I might have come across it
[07:23] <DaSkreech> One is that when you search it greys out selections though they are still active
[07:23] <__osh__> Jucato: I find that sort of annoying too. I've got a bunch of bugs waiting to be confirmed (or marked as duplicates if my search was poor).
[07:24] <DaSkreech>  The other much more aggravating one is that you can't navigate by keyboard
[07:24] <DaSkreech> __osh__: Where?
[07:24] <Jucato> DaSkreech: hold on... could you give me a concrete example? I'm having trouble following (at 1:30am)
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Jucato: try to enter any of the modules with only the keyboard
[07:25] <__osh__> DaSkreech: launchpad.net <- there. I try to confirm bugs myself but mine are often left unchecked for weeks/months.
[07:25] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ah that one? when I wake up later, I'll check if it's still there in Edgy
[07:26] <Jucato> if it is, I'll look for the bug report. if there's no report, I'll file it
[07:27] <CatSoup> ok guys, how do I install my Realtek AC97 onboard audio?
[07:28] <lupine_85> CatSoup: should work automagically
[07:28] <skavenge> mine did in my laptop
[07:28] <CatSoup> except it doesn't :(
[07:28] <CatSoup> it says no audio card found
[07:28] <CatSoup> even though aplay --list-devices shows it
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Night
[07:28] <knob> skavenge: do u know how to get the front end onto ndiswrapper?
[07:28] <lupine_85> so the driver is installed, it's just that something doesn't know about it. what says "no audio card found"/
[07:28] <lupine_85> s///?
[07:29] <Jucato> night!!
[07:29] <knob> i've got a problem with the drivers, but i now cant remove them and when i try adding them they say they are not installed
[07:29] <jannis> http://www.klick-mich.da.cx/
[07:29] <jannis> http://www.klick-mich.da.cx/
[07:29] <CatSoup> i'm not sure lupine.
[07:29] <CatSoup> the sound worked yesterday.
[07:31] <CatSoup> screw it.
[07:31] <__osh__> CatSoup: do an lsmod and check that you've got the snd and ac97-modules loaded.
[07:33] <linuxmatt> Hello.
[07:33] <The_Stephan> EE) VIA(0): [dri]  DRIScreenInit failed.  Disabling DRI.
[07:34] <TheGateKeeper> anyone in here used partimage?
[07:34] <linuxmatt> Despite my nick, I'm kinda a linux n00b.  I need just a little bit of help regarding the 64-bit edition.
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[07:35] <ubuntu> hi!
[07:36] <linuxmatt> hello
[07:38] <linuxmatt> See, I have a softmodem that I think I've found a driver for, but I need to compile it, are there kernel source packages and gcc and make available on any version of the dapper drake kubuntu release?
[07:39] <skavenge> sure, sudo apt-get install build-essential will get you gcc/makes
[07:40] <alessandro> hallo
[07:40] <skavenge> sudo apt-get linux-source will get you the sources
[07:40] <alessandro> could somebody speak italian
[07:40] <_simon> n
[07:40] <skavenge> !it
[07:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:40] <_simon> wer kann mir weiterhelfen?
[07:40] <alessandro> thank you so much
[07:40] <linuxmatt> but my modem needs the softmodem driver, and that needs to be compiled, and I need the sources and gcc for that..
[07:41] <skavenge> which are on the cd, and once you sudo apt-get install them they will be there
[07:41] <_simon> brauch ein bisschen hilfe mit icq, welches ich unter linux ffnen mchte.
[07:41] <linuxmatt> ok where do I look for them?
[07:41] <_simon> spricht jemand deutsch?^^
[07:41] <skavenge> you use the commands i just gave you
[07:41] <w1w1t0m1> _simon:centericq
[07:42] <w1w1t0m1> _simon:licq
[07:42] <linuxmatt> are they on the shipit CD? I will have to spend hours at the coffeehouse downloading a different one if not...
[07:42] <skavenge> yes, they are
[07:42] <skavenge> again, use the commands given
[07:42] <_simon> wie kann ich das mit dem icq jetz machen (also ganz langsam weil ich keine ahnung habe...)
[07:42] <linuxmatt> oh and if I were to download them with my wifi at the coffeehouse, I'd need to compile ndiswrapper too heheh....
[07:43] <skavenge> ndiswrapper is on the cd as well ...
[07:43] <linuxmatt> it is? on the shipit?  I must be totally blind lol :P
 wie kann ich das mit dem icq jetz machen (also ganz langsam weil ich keine ahnung habe...)
[07:43] <linuxmatt> just one more question, this is more generic, and I promise I won't bother anyone here again for a while
[07:43] <sleeptyper> !de
[07:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:44] <w1w1t0m1> _simon:sudo apt-get install centericq
[07:44] <dwangoac> Greetings - I have a "how do I figure out what's causing this full system crash" question:
[07:44] <linuxmatt> Can I compile code optimised for x86 in the 64-bit edition or are they totally incompatable?
[07:45] <lupine_85> linuxmatt: should work
[07:45] <timo88> hi, where can i find a german kubuntu help chatroom?
[07:45] <dwangoac> My system started to lock up at random yesterday.  I've had three occurances so far, and in each case the hang was instantaneous - the nature of the hang is that even the caps lock key stops responding.
[07:45] <w1w1t0m1> _simon:oder /join #ubuntu-de :)
[07:45] <dwangoac> !de
[07:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:45] <dwangoac> :)
[07:45] <lupine_85> 64-bit is designed to be back-compatible with 32-bit
[07:45] <_simon>  <w1w1t0m1> _simon:sudo apt-get install centericq   was soll das, ich hab kein plan was das sein soll
[07:45] <dwangoac> So,
[07:45] <timo88> thank you
[07:45] <linuxmatt> ok thank you you have all been very helpful! :)
[07:45] <dwangoac> my direct question is, what's the best way to set up logging that will continusly write the system status out to a log file?
[07:46] <skavenge> linuxmatt: you may need to install a 32-bit chroot within the 64-bit system in order for the 32 bit software to work though, depending on application,
[07:46] <linuxmatt> and that's on the disk too?
[07:46] <skavenge> no clue
[07:46] <skavenge> dwangoac: aside from dmesg?
[07:46] <linuxmatt> ok well I'll look for it.  Thanks again!
[07:46] <sleeptyper> anyone using an usb digitv box with kubuntu (kaffeine) ?
[07:47] <dwangoac> skavenge: Well, when I restart, dmesg shows nothing useful, as it only seems to contain information for that boot.
[07:47] <dwangoac> skavenge: the 6.06 DVD boot wouldn't let me mount \ for some reason, so I couldn't look at the logs from there.  I'm burning off a 5.01 Knoppix DVD now.
[07:48] <w1w1t0m1> _simon: dieser kanal ist fur english sprechende Leute ...gehen wir in #ubuntu-de ..ok?
[07:48] <_simon> ja aba wie mach ich das hier *g*?
[07:48] <_simon> also wie komm ich in #ubuntu?
[07:48] <skavenge> dwangoac: it depends on where its crashing, if in x you may have somethign under .xsession_errors, or /var/log/messages
[07:49] <dwangoac> ... pardon my sin, I mean it wouldn't let me mount / for some reason (My day job is in Windows, I admit... : )
[07:49] <triade> dwangoac: you run "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages" to keep seeing what's happening
[07:49] <dwangoac> Ah
[07:49] <dwangoac> That's handy.
[07:50] <DaSkreech> w1w1t0m1: Just catching up what about centericq?
[07:50] <triade> dwangoac: use it all the time on "yakuake"
[07:50] <_simon> kommse denn jetz in 'ubuntu?
[07:51] <dwangoac> Hmm...  Nothing interesting so far in /var/log/messages, although it appears the last crash happened sometime after 3:24 AM
[07:51] <dwangoac> triade: on yakuake?  What's that?
[07:51] <w1w1t0m1> _simon: nur schreibe:/join #ubuntu-de und drucke enter
[07:51] <leonrott> its console
[07:52] <DaSkreech> leonrott: ah Of course I was thinking of micq
[07:52] <dwangoac> Somehow never heard of that.  :)
[07:52] <_simon> join 'ubuntu-de
[07:52] <leonrott> its a console that look goog!!!
[07:52] <triade> dwangoac: console quake style
[07:52] <leonrott> good
[07:52] <_simon> join #ubuntu-de
[07:52] <dwangoac> triade: Nice!  Now that sounds interesting...  apt-get, here I come...
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :) is licq still in development?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> _simon: try /join
[07:53] <_simon> try/join?????????????????
[07:53] <triade> dwangoac: you hit F12 and you get yer console.:-)
[07:53] <DaSkreech> _simon:  /join #ubuntu-de
[07:53] <dwangoac> triade: Retro goodness...  (er, quasi-retro - I still bust out Quake Team Fortress any time I can convince people to let me...  2fort4, baby!
[07:54] <_simon> und jertz auf #ubuntu-de klicken?
[07:54] <w1w1t0m1> DaSkreech: i use centericq, I used licq before...
[07:54] <dwangoac> triade: whoa! Sweet dropdown interface...
[07:54] <triade> dwangoac: always install it on remote PC's. easy to tell peoples to hit F12
[07:54] <TheGateKeeper> anyone used partimage?
[07:54] <triade> easier than finding konsole
[07:54] <dwangoac> triade: I bet...
[07:55] <dwangoac> _simon: You need to type exactly the following:  "/join #ubuntu-de"
[07:55] <DaSkreech> dwangoac: Say that again in german :)
[07:55] <dwangoac> DaSkreech: really...  wait, let me bust out the power of the fish...
[07:56] <DaSkreech> _simon: da
[07:56] <_simon> ja
[07:56] <DaSkreech> ja:)
[07:56] <_simon> "/join
[07:56] <_simon> und jetz ???????????^^
[07:56] <DaSkreech> klicken #ubuntu-de
[07:57] <lupine_85> Ja
[07:57] <_simon> ja habe ich getan...
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Konversation?
[07:57] <dwangoac> _simon, solltest du die Fhrung #ubuntude fr Hilfe auf Deutsch verbinden.  Aus deinem IRC Klienten heraus das Wort-/join #ubuntude schreiben.
[07:57] <_simon> und da sind nur leute die deutsch sprechen?
[07:58] <Fatb0y> i got xgl working in kubuntu last night with KDE.  when i installed gnome it now no longer works.  i assume it overwrote my kdm files when isntalling gnomes and just needs to be updated.  is there a way to make XGL system wide regardless of the Window Manger that you load?
[07:58] <leonrott> snarff!!
[07:58] <dwangoac> _simon: Ich glaube nicht, irgendwelche von uns hier Deutsches flieend sprechen, das ist, warum wir denken, da du die Fhrung #kubuntude oder #ubuntude verbinden solltest.
[07:59] <grizzly> is there a way to alt+tab with the mouse ??
[07:59] <dwangoac> DaSkreech: I'm not sure if this is doing any good, but it's been awhile since I've abused a babelfish.  :)
[07:59] <DaSkreech> dwangoac: It's ok he got in :)
[07:59] <dwangoac> DaSkreech: cool
[08:00] <DaSkreech> dwangoac: and you have the wrong channels :)
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Just to let you know
[08:00] <dwangoac> DaSkreech: yeah, I realized afterward that the fish stripped the - marks
[08:00] <alessandro> Know somebody how I can use skype with ubuntu?
[08:00] <grizzly> in windows I used strokeit/powerpro to "hold rightmouse button and rotate wheel" to switch betwwen windows..
[08:00] <dwangoac> alessandro: I use Skype with Kubuntu - I installed it using Automatix
[08:00] <DaSkreech> grizzly: Mouse wheel over the Window List?
[08:01] <cox377> has anyone been experiencing wierd things with kubuntu rebooting on it's own
[08:01] <dwangoac> cox377: Nah, I'm trying to figure out why it's hanging on its own, though.  :)
[08:01] <alessandro> sorry what is automatix?
[08:01] <cox377> i've never seen it but i'm coming back to the computer and it's restarted.. this has been happening to both kubuntu machines within my house
[08:01] <DaSkreech> !automatix
[08:01] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[08:01] <triade> dwangoac: so am I on wireless connections
[08:01] <grizzly> DaSkreech: yup
[08:01] <lupine_85> !easyubuntu
[08:01] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:01] <lupine_85> script wars! ;)
[08:02] <alessandro> thank you so much
[08:02] <dwangoac> !autmatix
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autmatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <dwangoac> oh come on... nothing for that?  :)
[08:02] <triade> cox377: didn't have power failure?
[08:02] <cox377> nope
[08:02] <cox377> it keeps happening
[08:02] <dwangoac> Oh, didn't type it right.
[08:02] <cox377> & the windows and xbox machines have stayed up
[08:02] <triade> cox377: laptops?
[08:02] <lupine_85> 4,000 loops!
[08:03] <cox377> nope... all desktops
[08:03] <dwangoac> lupine_85: heh
[08:03] <dwangoac> cox377: loose power cable?  :)
[08:03] <triade> cox377: I'm lost
[08:03] <cox377> by the way lupine_85 it's knob from earlier with the ndiswrapper prob
[08:03] <lupine_85> any joy?
[08:03] <cox377> it was my mates laptop so i left it as it was doing my nut
[08:03] <dwangoac> cox377: Here's a useful suggestion - sometime when you can do it, let memtest run overnight.  If you come back and your system has rebooted, it's a hardware problem.
[08:03] <dwangoac> cox377: it was doing your nut?
[08:04] <cox377> dwangoac: yeh shall run the test tonight
[08:04] <cox377> dwangoac: lol yeh it was doing my nut?
[08:05] <dwangoac> cox377: Yep, that's what you said.  I'm not sure I would want to see a laptop doing your nut...
[08:05] <cox377> lol
[08:05] <dwangoac> cox377: Anyway, hardware problems can be a pain to figure out, but that's one easy way to tell if it's your OS or your computer.
[08:05] <cox377> sarcasm or not familiar with the exspresion?
[08:05] <dwangoac> cox377: Nah, familiar, just find it very funny in this context.
[08:05] <triade> dwangoac: read about some guy burning his nuts with a laptop
[08:05] <recon0> I think something is wrong with my CUPS... when I try to add a printer via localhost:631, but it won't accept root:[password]  or [myusername] :[password] . Any ideas?
[08:05] <cox377> dwangoac: lol yeh... where yah from?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !nuts
[08:05] <dwangoac> triade: Yeah, I need to get my Dell battery replaced...  Got recalled
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nuts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <dwangoac> heh
[08:06] <dwangoac> cox377: USA, just feel like being a dork this morning.
[08:06] <larsbjar> Riddell: private?
[08:06] <cox377> dwangoac: lol must be a UK saying or something
[08:07] <holycow> I'm liking kubuntu
[08:07] <milco> me2!
[08:08] <holycow> trying to configure it so its not annoying the hell outa me
[08:08] <milco> how do i install unrar?
[08:08] <milco> using apt-get, or should i download it from rarlabs?
[08:08] <holycow> Got the 686 smp kernel
[08:08] <lupine_85> !unrar
[08:08] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:08] <dwangoac> cox377: You know, it's funny how regional some sayings are.  In the midwest, the phrase "donuts to dollars" is common, but the rest of the country never uses it.
[08:09] <lupine_85> eee, azza favva gorra' Jag?
[08:09] <dwangoac> cox377: Er.. doh, typed that backwords - it should be "dollars to donuts"
[08:09] <cox377> hahaha
[08:09] <triade> milco: give "easyubuntu2 a try
[08:09] <cox377> dwangoac: and in what context is that used
[08:09] <cox377> lol
[08:09] <triade> milco: give "easyubuntu"
[08:09] <dwangoac> http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/dollars+to+donuts%2Fdoughnuts
[08:10] <milco> !info unrar-free
[08:10] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[08:10] <milco> triade: where?
[08:10] <cox377> dwangoac: thats crazy hahaha
[08:11] <triade> milco: forgot where......google is yer friend
[08:11] <dwangoac> cox377: I moved from CO to CA and everyone thinks I'm crazy for calling a carbonated beverage "pop"
[08:11] <triade> milco: it sets up PLF repo's
[08:12] <dwangoac> Anyway, I guess I'll keep an eye on my log files and see if I can track down this hard lockup problem...  Thanks for the help guys!
[08:12] <milco> PLF reposteries?
[08:12] <milco> whats that
[08:12] <milco> !compile
[08:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:12] <triade> Pinguin Liberaton Front :-)
[08:12] <milco> !packages rar
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about packages rar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <lupine_85> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free
[08:12] <DaSkreech> triade: Ahhh such a dumb name
[08:12] <lupine_85> all sorts of packages that aren't allowed in the normal ubuntu repos :)
[08:12] <lupine_85> !unrar
[08:12] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:13] <DaSkreech> !info unrar
[08:13] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[08:13] <lupine_85> !unrar-free
[08:13] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[08:13] <milco> how do i search for a 'kubuntu package'
[08:13] <DaSkreech> milco: try !info package
[08:13] <milco> !info rar
[08:13] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:13] <milco> i cant use 'apt-get install unrar or rar/.....
[08:13] <milco> 'unknown package'
[08:13] <DaSkreech> !rar
[08:13] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:13] <recon0> KDE printing just freezes with a red box whenever I try the "administrator mode" button.
[08:14] <recon0> Is anybody else having this problem?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> milco: read that. The short answer is to install unrar
[08:14] <milco> DaSkreech: sto bothering me with that ! crap =)
[08:15] <DaSkreech> milco: Well they solve your problem so You can choose to ignore them if you like :) as long as your problem isn't a problem
[08:15] <milco> 'To add support for it, install the package from the multiverse repository (AddingRepositoriesHowto). '
[08:16] <milco> DaSkreech: i wasnt ignoring them, the page didnt redirect
[08:16] <milco> but i will find out how to use the 'multiverse repository' :)
[08:16] <DaSkreech> milco: Ah. Interesting. Say that then  :) We can fix that
[08:16] <DaSkreech> !multiverse
[08:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:16] <DaSkreech> :-D
[08:17] <recon0> The "Add Printer Wizard" freezes after I pick my URI for my printer. Can anybody help?
[08:18] <milco> DaSkreech: jo thanks for helping me on track.... 'https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression.' the . in the end should be removed
[08:18] <milco> :)
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Excellent :)
[08:20] <w1w1t0m1> I set file sharing via nfs on LAN (dapper) and want to browse content of that shared folder (konqueror) on another lan pc(breezy) ... how should I specify this machine/folder? I tried nfs://<ip_address>/<shared_folder> but I got error message "Authorization failed, localhost authentication not supported" can anybody help?
[08:21] <Electrolyte> W00T, first install I've ever had of Linux that has gone to plan and worked :D
[08:21] <Electrolyte> Anyone care to tell me what the off-topic channel for kubuntu is? :E
[08:22] <DaSkreech> milco: setting the change in motion
[08:23] <mortenskyt> hey, anybody has any idea what's messed up in my system? Audio from some internet-streams and .ogg-files are in something like 22 kHz, while mp3s play fine. I tried changed sound-card from my SB! Live to my onboard via, no change, but whatever it is then, I don't know - I also tried using mplayer instead of xine, still no difference
[08:23] <mortenskyt> some audio formats just sounds broken, anybody has any idea what might be the issue?
[08:23] <milco> DaSkreech: ive red both the unrar and multi repository faq's/stories - but it didnt give me a clue on what repository to use to get the package i need
[08:24] <DaSkreech> !info unrar
[08:24] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[08:24] <milco> ive enabled the 'universe repository'
[08:24] <DaSkreech> milco: in adept?
[08:24] <milco> yes
[08:24] <DaSkreech> can you do two things for me?
[08:24] <milco> could have done it by hand as well, i know a bit about how it works
[08:24] <milco> DaSkreech: ?
[08:24] <DaSkreech>  make sure that it wasn't the dapper-backports server
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Common mistake :)
[08:25] <milco> DaSkreech: might be handy to tell you..
[08:25] <milco> when i installed kubuntu this afternoon, inet was not connected (didnt plug tcp cable..) its a brand new workstation
[08:25] <DaSkreech> milco: You could just pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ;-)
[08:26] <milco> yes
[08:26] <DaSkreech> milco: alright
[08:26] <milco> http://pastebin.ca/160792
[08:27] <milco> i've enabled them all, because all of them where disabled - didnt allow me to apt anything at all
[08:27] <milco> all i tought when doing that was 'the more sources i can get packages from, the better'
[08:28] <DaSkreech> milco: You did an update?
[08:28] <gsasha_> Hi, can anybody here help me with a KDE on Xinerama problem?
[08:28] <mortenskyt_> gsasha_: maybe, shoot
[08:28] <StrudelNinja_> hey, I'm trying to get my winkey to open the k menu. A friend had me put http://pastebin.ca/159536 in winkey.sh and put it in /home/josh/.kde/Autostart/ but it's not working
[08:29] <gsasha_> I have two monitors with different resolutions. I would like the KPanel to take 100% of one monitor, and not to appear on the second one.
[08:29] <StrudelNinja_> it has all the permissions
[08:29] <StrudelNinja_> the same for another .sh I have in the same dir
[08:29] <DaSkreech> milco: deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe. Can you put multiverse at the end of that line?
[08:29] <RawSewage> how do you log onto your server with console again
[08:29] <DaSkreech> ssh
[08:29] <RawSewage> remote server
[08:29] <milco> ssh -u user -ppassword hostname
[08:29] <mortenskyt_> gsasha_: uh, that sounds a bit funky... I 'only' have a setup with similar resolutions... I figure...:
[08:29] <RawSewage> ty
[08:29] <mortenskyt_> if you can't just tell the bar to 'xinerama' both screens...
[08:29] <RawSewage> why doesnt password have a space
[08:30] <mortenskyt_> then I figure you need to create a seperate bar on each screen
[08:30] <milco> RawSewage: it should have a space
[08:30] <mortenskyt_> say you'd use one screen for the taskbar and the other for icons, systray and such
[08:30] <milco> mysql doesnt use it but -p under ssh should have one if im not wrong
[08:30] <RawSewage> milco, when I do MYSQL things, it only works with no space after -p
[08:30] <RawSewage> ok ty
[08:30] <gsasha_> I didn't find any such option in KPanel's config :(... The closest I could do is make the panel take 65% of the screen, but that's bad: a small area stays unused, and when I boot with only one screen, panel takes a little more than 1/2 the monitor :'(
[08:31] <gsasha_> How do I create a bar on each screen???
[08:31] <milco> DaSkreech: those where already enabled :)
[08:31] <mortenskyt_> ah, that's easy, just right-click on a bar you already have and "add new panel" > "panel"
[08:31] <mortenskyt_> and then just move that new one around to whereever it pleases you
[08:31] <milco> in the middle of the file, i just did that with adept before pastebinning int :)
[08:31] <DaSkreech> milco: I know but it doesn't have multiverse :)
[08:32] <mortenskyt_> right click on the new one to add stuff to it
[08:32] <milco> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:32] <gsasha_> Well, that's nice, but it still didn't make the primary panel 100% of the screen - which was the original problem...
[08:32] <DaSkreech> milco: The multiverse lines are backports which may or may not have any applications in it
[08:33] <mortenskyt_> yea...
[08:33] <mortenskyt_> well, if it can't be done by right-clicking on a panel > configure panel and set "xinerama screen" to "all screens" then I don't know
[08:33] <milco> DaSkreech: line 20?
[08:34] <ganymed_> ciao
[08:34] <milco> that is universe or am i blind
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Yup
[08:34] <DaSkreech> ganymed_: Ciao
[08:34] <DaSkreech> milco: right add the word multiverse to the end of that line
[08:34] <DaSkreech> so it looks like
[08:34] <DaSkreech> deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[08:35] <gsasha_> mortenskyt_: Oh, stupid me!!! What I needed was actually to set it to "Xinerama screen 1" :) How did I miss it? Thanks!!!
[08:36] <mortenskyt_> hehe, ur welcome (-:
[08:45] <kubuntu-newbie> hello
[08:46] <kubuntu-newbie> I have a question about installing a bootmanager... I wanted to install kubuntu ... I resized a partition I used for windows ... and installed kubuntu there. .  but .. I seemed to forget installing a bootmanager ... can I use the live disc to boot up my installed kubuntu and ... is there some bootmanager included on the cd to be installed?
[08:48] <TheGateKeeper> kubuntu-newbie: (k)ubuntu uses grub, from that you can decided which OS to boot into
[08:48] <kubuntu-newbie> oh .. but it's not installed by the install-script? you have to do it yourself?
[08:48] <kubuntu-newbie> :>
[08:49] <Ayabara> you guys using ktorrent? I quit azureus yesterday and started using ktorrent but I don't get the same speeds even after trying to tweak the settings
[08:49] <TheGateKeeper> kubuntu-newbie: no the install script should take care of it
[08:49] <kubuntu-newbie> oh ok then something went wrong :>
[08:50] <DaSkreech> milco: How are you?
[08:50] <TheGateKeeper> !grub > kubuntu-newbie
[08:50] <TheGateKeeper> kubuntu-newbie: read the ubotu pm hope it helps
[08:50] <kubuntu-newbie> TheGateKeeper,  thank you!
[08:50] <kubuntu-newbie> I check it out  :)
[08:51] <TheGateKeeper> kubuntu-newbie: yw, hope you get it sorted, there are google videos demonstrating windows + linux dual boot installs
[08:52] <Ayabara> anyone? is there a forum for ktorrent?
[08:52] <kubuntu-newbie> yeah my installation is a bit special ..  I already had windows installed ..     one physical drive with two partitions .. then I used partit magic for making the 2nd partition (for data) smalle to be able to install kubuntu
[08:53] <kubuntu-newbie> then I booted the live cd ..  and started the installscript ..  made / and swap on that new partition
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Ayabara: I'm sure. Whats up?
[08:53] <kubuntu-newbie> so I'll check those pages out
[08:54] <TheGateKeeper> kubuntu-newbie: using partition magic may have been your downfall better to use something like gparted
[08:54] <kubuntu-newbie> aha :>
[08:55] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: I just can't seem to set it up so I get good download speeds
[08:57] <DaSkreech> Ayabara: http://ktorrent.org/
[09:02] <InuDuelist> Mm.
[09:02] <InuDuelist> It's impossible to run an arcade on a computer without flash player 9.
[09:02] <Dannilion> It doesn't like you
[09:03] <InuDuelist> I'll be back in a few hours/tomorrow.
[09:04] <Bearcat> foot: fancy meeting you here
[09:04] <foot> Bearcat: ben a while
[09:06] <Bearcat> hey folks, i have a quick cups related question. What user owns the cups system in kubuntu? Is there a cups user or an lp user?
[09:07] <Bearcat> foot: /etc
[09:08] <Bearcat> foot: cat passwd |grep lp
[09:10] <Bearcat> foot: cd /etc
[09:10] <pierreth_> abattoir: ?
[09:10] <foot> Bearcat: lp:x:7:7:lp:/var/spool/lpd:/bin/sh
[09:11] <Bearcat> cat passwd |grep cups
[09:11] <foot> cupsys:x:100:106::/home/cupsys:/bin/false
[09:17] <SpAwN> !firewall
[09:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[09:19] <Bearcat> foot: sudo kcontrol
[09:24] <fdoving> Bearcat: 'getent' is nice, instead of cat passwd|grep something, you can use 'getent passwd cupsys' for example.. just for the record :)
[09:26] <fdoving> you can also use 'getent group' and 'getent hosts' .. there is a list of databases in  'man getent'
[09:28] <Bearcat> fdoving: really? I've never heard  of it. Is it part of the basesystem of bash?
[09:28] <jott> you could also do "cat passwd | cat | tee | cat | tee | cat | tee | tee | grep something | tee | cat | tee | tee | cat" instead of "grep something passwd" :p scnr
[09:28] <milco_> can i make the size of my icons on the kde desktop smaller?
[09:28] <milco_> i cant find it in the display /desktop settings
[09:28] <fdoving> Bearcat: it's part of libc6.
[09:29] <Bearcat> fdoving: on my distro it comes from glibc
[09:30] <fdoving> Bearcat: well, libc6 is the package name in ubuntu, the source is glibc. it's the same.
[09:30] <Bearcat> fdoving: of course
[09:31] <z00m> how to load up the app for checking for new updates ?
[09:31] <fdoving> milco_: yes, system settings -> appearance -> icons -> advanced (tab) -> desktop/filemanager
[09:31] <z00m> i just had it on the bottom right and it gone now... i want to download updates
[09:31] <fdoving> z00m: kmenu -> system -> adept manager
[09:31] <fdoving> ah.
[09:32] <z00m> fdoving: ? is it possible to open it again
[09:32] <fdoving> z00m: are there any updates available? i think it's in the background when no updates are available.
[09:32] <z00m> yeah it was just there and i closed it down by mistake
[09:32] <z00m> :)
[09:32] <fdoving> ah.
[09:33] <z00m> i had automatrix running at the time
[09:33] <fdoving> z00m: try kmenu -> run command -> 'adept_notifier'
[09:33] <recon0> Is there any package for celestia 1.4.1?
[09:33] <Bearcat> foot: cd /etc/X11/
[09:34] <z00m> fdoving: its not doing anything. ... just an egg timer on task bar
[09:34] <z00m> :(
[09:34] <z00m> then goes off
[09:34] <z00m> ah it ok, it will be there next time
[09:34] <Bearcat> foot: cd /etc/X11/
[09:34] <z00m> when i reboot
[09:34] <z00m> :D
[09:35] <Bearcat> foot: cat xorg.conf and paste it into pastebin.ca
[09:35] <Bearcat> foot: or whatever paste bin you use
[09:35] <z00m> just didnt want to reboot [09:36] <z00m> lmao :D just joking !
[09:36] <fdoving> i know, uptime doesn't count years :)
[09:36] <Bearcat> z00m: i was gonna say...old kernel? :P
[09:36] <Bearcat> there is that too.
[09:36] <foot> Bearcat: http://pastebin.ca/160845
[09:36] <z00m> hahaha
[09:37] <fdoving> and 'days' should be with a lowercase 'd'.
[09:37] <z00m> hey take u guys know about the automatrix ?
[09:37] <fdoving> :)
[09:37] <z00m> take it^
[09:37] <fdoving> !automatix
[09:37] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:37] <ironfroggy> im having trouble with multiple sessions on one of my boxes. i can start a new session, but the box locks up when i try to swiitch back.
[09:37] <z00m> installs many of the main apps people ask about
[09:38] <hivemind> Automatix is soooo helpful, along with a little bit of apt-getting you can have a system up so damn fast.
[09:38] <fdoving> z00m: with emphasis on "For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.".. :)
[09:38] <z00m> hivemind: yea, it still didnt install swf for me though
[09:39] <z00m> i got flash but not support for .swf
[09:39] <z00m> :(
[09:39] <hivemind> Ack.
[09:39] <louise> testing
[09:39] <z00m> < im on the x86_64 version
[09:39] <hivemind> Hi louise!
[09:39] <louise> hi
[09:39] <z00m> i got wine working on this today im well pleased
[09:40] <hivemind> z00m, Lucky you. I don't get the registry thing at all.
[09:40] <louise> bye
[09:40] <z00m> hivemind: are you on the 64bit version of (k)ubuntu
[09:40] <z00m>  ?
[09:40] <Bearcat> foot: cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[09:41] <hivemind> z00m, Nope.
[09:41] <z00m> oh
[09:41] <Bearcat> foot: vim xorg.conf
[09:42] <z00m> i tryed playing battle field 2 today, but it was saying please insert the CD in the drive when it was already in there after installing the game, its the CD protection.
[09:42] <z00m> maybe a noCD crack would solve it
[09:42] <ironfroggy> how can i diagnose issues with suspend-to-ram/disc operations?
[09:43] <ironfroggy> seeing as how the system is suspended at the time.
[09:43] <manfred> Hi, is there a printer guru available?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> problem with a Nocrack hack on BF2. would be the servers may detect it.. and every time a new update comes out.. ya need to redo the crack.
[09:44] <flukej-walker> i've installed a few printers
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> the copy protection features are some of the things that cedega does better then wine.
[09:44] <z00m> Dr_Willis: yeah that would be a porblem yes
[09:44] <hivemind> I've realized something about these channels it best to ask your question, we try to solve it if we can.
[09:44] <hivemind> it's*
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> and now ya know why ive baciailly given up on pc gaming. :)
[09:45] <z00m> windows is for gaming
[09:45] <z00m> :P
[09:45] <DaSkreech> hivemind: Who?
[09:45] <z00m> linux is for hardcore !
[09:45] <Kr4t05> !gaming > z00m
[09:45] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: Logs?
[09:45] <hivemind> DaSkreech, Manfred needs help with a printer
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <DaSkreech> !printer
[09:45] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:45] <Kr4t05> !games > z00m
[09:45] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: nothing can be written to logs when the system is suspended.
[09:46] <Bearcat> foot: :wq!
[09:46] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: Good point
[09:46] <manfred> Dr_Willis: I don't get how to print to a shared windows printer. Only activating a guest account doesn't seem to work.
[09:46] <z00m> installed that windows vista pre RC1 to have a look at....
[09:46] <manfred> Dr_Willis: Local printers are no problem
[09:46] <z00m> it made me love this kubuntu even more..
[09:47] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: happen to use the operations yourself?
[09:47] <z00m> what a pile of poo it is, everything is cramped up...
[09:47] <Kr4t05> z00m: Try Nexuiz, Quake 4, Doom 3, UT2K4, BZFlag, and Tremulous. Then tell me you can't game on linux. :)
[09:47] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: Nope :)
[09:47] <DaSkreech> Or I wouldn't have said somethign silly like that :)
[09:47] <z00m> Kr4t05: is quake 4 free ?
[09:47] <jott> manfred: you configured the printer via cups http?
[09:47] <z00m> and Doom 3
[09:47] <z00m> :D
[09:48] <z00m> that would be nice !
[09:48] <DaSkreech> Kr4t05: UT2k7 :-D
[09:48] <manfred> Dr_Willis: all those howtos on wiki.kubuntu.org  don't work
[09:48] <Kr4t05> z00m: get a job, and support the few devels who work with Linux
[09:48] <ironfroggy> anyone here running on a laptop?
[09:48] <manfred> jott: No I tried a windows smb installation
[09:48] <z00m> Kr4t05: hahaha
[09:48] <z00m> :D
[09:48] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: I'm on a laptop
[09:48] <z00m> get a job!
[09:48] <Kr4t05> If you people whine because those few games aren't free, then they'll just stop developing/porting to Linux.
[09:49] <ironfroggy> flukej-walker: using suspend operations?
[09:49] <z00m> Kr4t05: yeah but why not download them for free and then play on windows ?
[09:49] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: nope, everytime I try to suspen or hibernate, it just locks the session
[09:49] <jott> manfred: your printer is connected to a windows computer and you want to print with linux on this printer, right? (or vice versa?)
[09:49] <z00m> if you could have a game for 1 or 30 what would you like to pay ?
[09:49] <Kr4t05> z00m: because I couldn't waste my time to dual-boot
[09:49] <ironfroggy> flukej-walker: it _usually_ works for me. its the "usually" part im trying to diagnose.
[09:50] <fdoving> z00m: the one that runs on linux of course.
[09:50] <Kr4t05> z00m: Also, it's redundant to pay $100 for an OS, then $20-$50 on the game.
[09:50] <z00m> yeah
[09:50] <z00m> who says you need to pay for windows ?
[09:50] <Kr4t05> I'd rather pay $0 for my OS and save my money for games. :)
[09:50] <z00m> lmao
[09:50] <z00m> :D
[09:50] <DaSkreech> z00m: Microsoft did
[09:50] <Kr4t05> z00m: we don't talk about piracy.
[09:50] <Kr4t05> !CoC
[09:50] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:50] <manfred> jott: I got my kubuntu laptop and want to print from it to one of our windows printers at work so that I don't have to boot win just to print
[09:50] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: what happens when it doesn't work?
[09:50] <z00m> ok guys
[09:51] <foo> Why doesn't this visudo entry work? foo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ? I type sudo su - and it still asks for password.
[09:51] <ironfroggy> yeah because its not like microsoft is writing code just like the code you are willing to pay for in games.
[09:51] <DaSkreech> If you are going to use the product play by thier rules. If you don't want to play by thier rules then don't use the software
[09:51] <ironfroggy> flukej-walker: power-light is on, no hdd activity, screen is blank, and its completely unresponsive.
[09:51] <DaSkreech>  thats' why Microsoft doesn't use Linux :)
[09:51] <z00m> :D
[09:51] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: have to restart?
[09:51] <DaSkreech> Viral licenses make them wake up in a sweat at night
[09:51] <ironfroggy> flukej-walker: yeah
[09:51] <z00m> @ DaSkreech
[09:52] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: were you CPU scaling at the time?
[09:52] <jott> manfred: you should be able to add the printer as smb://username:password@host/printer
[09:52] <DaSkreech> z00m: Plus I'm still playing UT2k4 years afterwards I think they deserve the money
[09:52] <ironfroggy> flukej-walker: no, i dont use that.
[09:52] <DaSkreech> If Only those guys attilted mill will listen to me now :-(
[09:52] <DaSkreech> Anyone want to start a campaign? :)
[09:52] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: at least their replacing klaptop with somethin new in Edgy
[09:52] <z00m> windows is a malware / spyware / virus / trojan : main parking lot...aka mainframe!
[09:53] <ubuntu> Q   on the live cd installer where does it mount / for installation?  is it /target like it was last year ?
[09:53] <ubuntu> i'm trying to install on sda.   and from the live cd that is proving to be near impossable......
[09:53] <fdoving> z00m: #kubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat, please. we're trying to keep this channel on-topic, which is support. thanks in advance.
[09:53] <ironfroggy> flukej-walker: yeah but that just triggers other commands to handle the actual suspension, so it doesnt solve any real problems.
[09:53] <z00m> fdoving: ok man
[09:53] <manfred> jott: I might even've tried that already but I can't remember. So I'll try tomorrow
[09:54] <z00m> ;)
[09:54] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: ah, I rarly use suspend, but I wish my hibernate worked
[09:54] <jott> manfred: maybe you even have to supply a domain like "domain\username" when you are running in an domain/active directory env...
[09:54] <DaSkreech> We should have #ubuntu-gaming
[09:54] <grizzly> synaptic says kopete would be upgraded from version 4.3.5.2buntu06 to 4.3.5.2ubuntu6.2 . NOw how do I knowthe real verion to which kopete will be upgraded to .11.3 or .12 ??
[09:54] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: I hear all these functions are pretty experimental though
[09:54] <DaSkreech> Guess that would come up on the forums
[09:55] <z00m> anyway, people nice chatting im going to go surf the web.. catch you in abit
[09:55] <z00m> laters !!!
[09:55] <ironfroggy> flukej-walker: my hibernate works about as often (which is usually, still) but i actually get better battery life doing suspend instead. dumping the memory to disk and reading it back takes juice.
[09:55] <foo> Why doesn't this visudo entry work? foo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ? I type sudo su - and it still asks for password.
[09:55] <ironfroggy> foo: why are you running su with sudo?
[09:55] <foo> ironfroggy: Because I want a root shell.
[09:55] <Chousuke> foo: sudo -i
[09:55] <manfred> jott: When I try to install via kubuntu printthingy I can see the machines in the local workgroup but I don't have any access while it works from my winxp installation. That's what I don't get.
[09:56] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy:true, but I use hibernate for hours/days/weeks, where suspend would run it down
[09:56] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: mainly just to avoid a 1.5 min. boot
[09:56] <manfred> I'm sure it's a newbie thing from me, but I still don't know it
[09:56] <ironfroggy> foo: thats silly. you should never use a root shell. sudo makes it unnecassary.
[09:56] <jott> manfred: "tail /var/log/cups/error_log" might be helpful
[09:56] <ironfroggy> flukej-walker: when do you leave you laptop away from a powersource for weeks?
[09:57] <ubuntu> ok let me ask this then, maybe it will yeld more information; is there any way, other than the (install icon), to install from the live cd ?
[09:57] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: about never
[09:57] <Bearcat> foot: locate smgl
[09:57] <ubuntu> text based perhaps ?
[09:57] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: what hardware are you running
[09:57] <flukej-walker> ?
[09:58] <foot> Bearcat: /home/lovely/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/smgl-0.9.6.1-x86.iso.bz2.desktop
[09:58] <foo> ironfroggy: that still asks for my password.
[09:58] <ironfroggy> flukej-walker: dell latitude D810
[09:58] <Hawkwind> foo: What are you trying to do ?
[09:58] <Bearcat> foot: http://www.sourcemage.org/download
[09:59] <flukej-walker> ironfroggy: Im on a Compaq V2000, Intel
[09:59] <ironfroggy> foo: what file are you editing?
[09:59] <foo> ironfroggy: If I'm doing a lot of root required stuff typing in sudo 20+ times is silly.
[09:59] <foo> Hawkwind: Get root without entering my user pass.
[09:59] <ubuntu> where does the live installer mount / ?
[10:00] <ironfroggy> foo: untrue. we have policies here of never using root shells, no matter how much root stuff needs done.
[10:00] <Hawkwind> foo: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=148.0
[10:00] <ironfroggy> adding one little word isnt tought.
[10:00] <flukej-walker> ubuntu: do you mean for the install process, or the LiveCD?
[10:00] <Hawkwind> foo: Read the bottom, it's for Ubuntu users like yourself :P
[10:00] <ubuntu> flukej-walker: the installer
[10:00] <jott> foo: "sudo -i" or "sudo -s" should do the job ;)
[10:00] <ironfroggy> foo: but what is the actual file you are editing? /etc/sudoers?
[10:01] <flukej-walker> ubuntu: I think it puts it on the first open partion on your hard disk
[10:01] <ubuntu> flukej-walker: no.
[10:01] <ubuntu> never mind
[10:01] <foo> ironfroggy: hm, ok... I guess that would explain why it works on the server edition and not the desktop edition.
[10:01] <Hawkwind> jott: sudo -i isn't permanent though
[10:01] <flukej-walker> ubuntu: you can change it by manually editing parition tables
[10:01] <foo> ironfroggy: I'm running visudo, as you're supposed to
[10:01] <Hawkwind> foo: Read the how-to on LFD d00d
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> i just saw that 'hacking ubuntu' book at the bookstores. :P wheres hacking Kubuntu at! :0
[10:01] <ubuntu> flukej-walker: you don't understand my question.
[10:01] <flukej-walker> ubuntu: sorry
[10:02] <foo> Hawkwind: oh, hmm
[10:02] <ironfroggy> foo: have you tried just adding yourself to the admin group?
[10:02] <flukej-walker> ubuntu: are you trying to install to a USB or somethin?
[10:02] <Hawkwind> foo: Read the bottom of it.  It's Ubuntu specific
[10:02] <angasule> !kdm
[10:02] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[10:02] <ubuntu> do you know what mount point on the live cd  the installer uses to mount the root fs for the new install ?
[10:02] <foo> ironfroggy / Hawkwind: Nice, that worked.
[10:02] <fdoving> foo: it's like 'username ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL'
[10:02] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: You can install via chroot and debootstrap (search for the install from knoppix howto on the wiki)
[10:03] <jott> Hawkwind: what do you mean with "permanent"?
[10:03] <foo> fdoving: ahh
[10:03] <Hawkwind> jott: As in forever.  sudo -i isn't permanent after a reboot or restart of X AFAIK
[10:03] <ironfroggy> any idea how i can run a command over ssh and include environment variables?
[10:03] <Hawkwind> foo: Just read the how-to man.  I've documented it there
[10:03] <foot> where are my bookmarks held?
[10:03] <ironfroggy> i dont see any options for it in man ssh
[10:04] <foo> Hawkwind: That's why I don't read it, you documented it.
[10:04] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis: Hear Hear!!
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  i dont think thats even doable.. ssh is spawning a new shell on the remote box,
[10:04] <ubuntu> h3sp4wn: debootstrap you say ?
[10:04] <Hawkwind> foo: LOL.  It was done by someone in this channel actually
[10:04] <ironfroggy> Dr_Willis: yes and i want it to set some envvars up there before running the command
[10:04] <foo> Hawkwind: That's why I ran from everyone :0
[10:04] <Hawkwind> foo: Question....are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu ?
[10:04] <jott> Hawkwind: sudo -i gives you a root shell with "simulated initial login" like "su -"
[10:05] <Hawkwind> jott: I know that, but that is NOT what he wants
[10:05] <ironfroggy> Dr_Willis: just like if i did "DISPLAY=whatever xterm" locally
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  there ooodles of ssh tips/guides/tricks pages -  they may have a answer to that.
[10:05] <Hawkwind> jott: He wants sudo to never ask for a password, ever
[10:05] <jott> Hawkwind: ok ..
[10:05] <Bearcat> foot: /home/bearcat/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[10:05] <foo> Hawkwind: fubuntu
[10:05] <Hawkwind> jott: sudo -i is not permanent after a reboot
[10:05] <jott> sure
[10:05] <DaSkreech> He want NOPASSWD
[10:05] <wolf> hi
[10:06] <ironfroggy> whats the right value for DISPLAY to get display 0?
[10:06] <Dr_Willis>  ip#:0
[10:06] <h3sp4wn> DISPLAY=yourip:0
[10:06] <wolf> i have kubuntu  but i not mount a patitions ntfs ?
[10:07] <fdoving> ironfroggy: :0
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  you trying to ssh and get X apps to be ran?
[10:07] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: no, local display. localhost:0 didnt work.
[10:07] <ironfroggy> Dr_Willis: yes
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  you have read up on that ssh -X option?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> You normally dont need to export the display when you ssh over to a machine with the right ssh options
[10:07] <[GuS] > for Mac Lovers ;) http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/ubuntu/wallpapers/Kubuntu-MacOSX-wallpaper.jpg
[10:08] <ironfroggy> im not trying to do X11 forwarding over ssh
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> or it is the -x option.. i forget.
[10:08] <foo> Hawkwind: Just ubuntu with fluxbox
[10:08] <ironfroggy> im trying to run the program and the window on the remote machine, in specific cases.
[10:08] <ironfroggy> i already have proper forwarding setup.
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: With X forwarding you can use DISPLAY=192.168.1.10:0 (That is what I ment)
[10:09] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: why would i use an IP for a local display?
[10:09] <Fade> 0:0 is shorthand for the local display.
[10:09] <ironfroggy> Fade: thanks. just got it working.
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> if you sshed to a box - its not the local display is it.
[10:09] <Fade> when the display is local, x doesn't use IP to export the display.
[10:09] <Fade> it uses a faster shared memory system.
[10:09] <ironfroggy> Dr_Willis: yes. im trying to run the program for that boxes dispaly, not mine.
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  aha.. so you are trying to run say xterm, on the remote box.. and have it show on the allready running X display on that remote box.
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> xterm -display remoteip:0 & (assumes xauth or xhost is setup properly)
[10:11] <Fade> running a setup like that on the internet is crazy.
[10:11] <ironfroggy> yes. particularly, ive set it up so i have an icon to launch the Synergy client on the remote box. since i already had ssh forwarding setup tho, it was running it there but connecting to my X sessions. so it just made the cursor loop around the same screen instead of crossing over.
[10:11] <Fade> use ssh to forward X connections if that's what you want.
[10:11] <h3sp4wn> Or use a vpn
[10:11] <h3sp4wn> isakmpd is pretty easy to setup
[10:11] <ironfroggy> Fade: im already using ssh to forward the X connections. thats exactly what i had to _avoid_ for this one particular case, where i actually didnt want them forwarded.
[10:12] <Fade> if you start a process inside an ssh session, it'll take the forwarded display because ssh implicitly sets the DISPLAY var.
[10:12] <ironfroggy> Fade: yes i know. thats what i had to get around.
[10:13] <angasule_> how do I make kdm display a list of users? I've checked 'show list' in the system settings, but it doesn't work (at least I got the autocomplete to work, but a list would be much better), I'm not using the default theme, but when I tried using the default it didn't work, either
[10:14] <Fade> angasule_: did you restart X/kdm?
[10:15] <angasule_> Fade: yes, but it's not necessary, I believe (since I 'switch user' to test, I've rebooted a few times, anyway)
[10:15] <Fade> I'm not sure what the answer is, offhand.
[10:15] <Fade> I always implicitly hide the users.
[10:15] <Fade> I assume they know their own login credentials, and anybody who doesn't have any probably shouldn't know which ones are valid anyhow.
[10:16] <angasule_> Fade: I'm not working for the CIA, this is my family's computer, no secret UFO plans hidden in it :)
[10:17] <Fade> it's just a habit.
[10:17] <fdoving> angasule_: i suggest taking a look at /etc/kde3/kdmrc - i find the config file much easier to understand than the messy GUI configuration module.
[10:18] <Fade> I didn't know it was kosher to give that kind of advice in a kde centric channel. :)
[10:18] <fdoving> Fade: it's a kubuntu centric channel. :)
[10:18] <fdoving> kubuntu is the commandline too. :)
[10:18] <Fade> well, the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is kde.
[10:18] <fdoving> sometimes the commandline and the config files are the best way.
[10:19] <angasule_> fdoving: I've it open already, but it's not helping much
[10:19] <Daskreech2> fdoving: Most times
[10:19] <fdoving> angasule_: ok, go to line 350
[10:20] <fdoving> Daskreech2: i know, don't tell anyone else :)
[10:20] <angasule_> fdoving: is that some kind of joke? :P
[10:20] <Daskreech2> :-)
[10:20] <fdoving> angasule_: what? about going to line 350 ? no.
[10:20] <Dannilion> Can someone tell me how to get rid of the sound delay for flash (and other things) in Kubuntu?
[10:21] <ironfroggy> if you find out, tell me :-/
[10:21] <tkan> hola
[10:21] <Fade> stop using artsd
[10:21] <angasule_> fdoving: well, kdmrc is in /etc/kde3/kdm on kubuntu dapper, and on this system, it has 77 lines
[10:21] <Fade> it's a heinous ditch pig.
[10:21] <Dannilion> ok
[10:21] <tkan> alguien me puede ayudar?
[10:22] <ironfroggy> Fade: replace it with what
[10:22] <httpdss> !es
[10:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:22] <fdoving> angasule_: ok,then the configuration module must have modified it. search for UserList then.
[10:22] <Dannilion> Fade: Yeah, and how?
[10:22] <angasule_> UserList=true fdoving
[10:23] <angasule_> fdoving: I did mention that earlier :)
[10:23] <fdoving> angasule_: what about 'ShowUsers' ?
[10:23] <angasule_> fdoving: ShowUsers=Selected , what are other possible values?
[10:24] <fdoving> angasule_: NotHidden
[10:24] <fdoving> angasule_: but i suggest keeping Selected.
[10:24] <Xcalibur> !w32codecs
[10:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:24] <fdoving> angasule_: take a look at 'SelectedUsers'
[10:24] <fdoving> angasule_: that should be a list of the users you want in the list.
[10:24] <lnxkde> how I share my files with dapper.
[10:25] <lnxkde> I have a fresh install
[10:25] <lnxkde> what I must install?
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> install samba is one way
[10:25] <lnxkde> linux to MAC
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> depends on exactly you are shareing and with what.
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> os-x can access samba shares
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> and nfs also i think. (not sure)
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> It can proberly do ssh file transfers as well.
[10:26] <lnxkde> Dr_Willis what packages I must install to get smaba working ?
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[10:26] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:26] <angasule_> fdoving: yes, the list is correct, btw, do I have to use the default theme for the list to show up (I'm using circles, and it's still not showing up)
[10:26] <fdoving> lnxkde: 'samba' and 'kdenetwork-filesharing' to be able to rightclick and 'share'
[10:27] <fdoving> angasule_: you have to disable theming. iirc.
[10:27] <fdoving> angasule_: set UseTheme=false
[10:27] <angasule_> fdoving: that would revert me to the default theme? or would it be possible to retain the new theme? the default is ugly, looks like it's from the early '90s
[10:30] <fdoving> angasule: yes, that would revert to the good old early '90s theme. Maybe you can find a theme at kde-look.org, that supports userslists.
[10:30] <angasule_> hmm, ok, thanks, I'll try that
[10:31] <phreakys> hi
[10:32] <phreakys> does anyone know how to implement ntfs-3g with konqueror?
[10:32] <phreakys> i would like to read/write my external usb ntfs hdd
[10:32] <phreakys> dont know if this can be done by editing fstab :/
[10:33] <milco_> thanks for the tip fdoving! :)
[10:34] <danish> how do i setup a printer
[10:34] <Hawkwind> danish: systemsettings
[10:37] <fdoving> milco_: you're welcome :)
[10:41] <Eliseth> *pokes the room* Anyone alive in here?
[10:42] <danish> dang windows asks me for a driver while linux comes with it impressive
[10:42] <flukej-walker> Linux truly is easier and faster to install, at least in my opinion
[10:43] <danish> i do
[10:43] <Eliseth> :) Well hello there :P
[10:43] <[GuS] > Me too
[10:44] <Eliseth> I actually am having a bit of trouble with it
[10:44] <ubuntu> I have an UBUNTU cd from a magazine who no obvious way to move the config to my hard disk.  Any ideas what is going on?
[10:45] <angasule_> it's unbelievable, almost no kdm theme supports user lists
[10:46] <Eliseth> I'm trying to run Uplink on it. But it keeps asking for libglut.so.3 and I know I have it... I have a feeling this has got to do with it being 64bit... I had the same trouble with Google Earth but I fixed it with Linux32.. Uplink still isn't working though
[10:46] <mattikoo> I tried to install all packages again. I got error E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle.
[10:47] <ubuntu_> can anyone tell me how I can install dmraid with the Kubuntu LiveCD?  It's not listed in the gui package manager
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu_, add it off a repo
[10:47] <Riddell> ubuntu_: you can't, you need the alternate CD for raid and lvm
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> actually, not sure haw that works
[10:48] <ubuntu_> sorry I'm new to Linux, what is a repo?
[10:48] <kubuntu_newbie> hello there
[10:48] <Hawkwind> Repo = repository, where deb files are kept
[10:48] <angasule_> Hawkwind: now explain what a deb file is ;)
[10:48] <ubuntu_> ok, so how would I add dmraid from the repo?
[10:49] <kubuntu_newbie> I found some tutorial "how to install anything on ubuntu" .. it says something about synaptic for getting packages ..  err  is "adept" the according software on kubuntu?
[10:49] <Hawkwind> angasule_: I'll just continue to build them and let someone else explain what it is :P
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> !adept
[10:49] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> !synaptic
[10:49] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:49] <Hawkwind> ubuntu_: You can't AFAIK.  Like Riddell stated you have to use the alternate CD
[10:49] <kubuntu_newbie> ah
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> ya can always install synaptic and run it. :P
[10:49] <ubuntu_> ok, where would I get the alternate CD ?
[10:49] <kubuntu_newbie> thanks :)
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> they are both jus front ends to the apt-get system
[10:49] <Hawkwind> ubuntu_: From any Kubuntu.org mirror
[10:49] <kubuntu_newbie> okay
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> and yes.. i perfer synaptic to adept
[10:49] <flukej-walker> i do also
[10:50] <Riddell> kubuntu_newbie: it is yes
[10:50] <lters> but neither bets plain old apt-get ;)
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntu_newbie, yes it is
[10:50] <holy_cow> I'm having a problem setting up Samba using "Sharing" in system settings.
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> lters, for real
[10:50] <holy_cow> The "file sharing" section is greyed out (even in admin mode)
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu_, i was wrong, Hawkwind  nad Riddell were right
[10:50] <lters> adept will not show the *secrets*
[10:50] <lters> like what else you need to install or might want to.
[10:51] <ubuntu_> hm, ok ... so what do I need to do then?
[10:51] <gourdin> hi there
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> my friend uses kubuntu and windows and couldn't get his DVD to play on Windows because of the codecs
[10:51] <gourdin> anyone here can help me to setup a 1200x800 res on a i945 laptop ?
[10:51] <Russel> hiho
[10:52] <Russel> does kopete not support jingle at the moment?
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> and ended up using kubuntu to play the dvd. it was sweet
[10:52] <angasule_> gaaah, no kdm theme for user lists, then people complain about linux people being loners :P
[10:52] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: first, install (K)ubuntu an drid yourself of Windows
[10:52] <Riddell> holy_cow: it's somewhat broken, installing samba may help
[10:52] <ubuntu_> let me ask this:  If I want to install Kubuntu on a RAID 0 setup, is there anyway to see the partitions in the array other than using dmraid?
[10:52] <holy_cow> Riddell, I thought that was a front end to samba config
[10:53] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: like someone above said, you will most likely need the Alternate Disc, the one with the good ol' text based install
[10:53] <Riddell> holy_cow: it is
[10:53] <lters> gourdin: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:53] <gourdin> iters I need to use the i915resolution
[10:54] <gourdin> and I didn't find any doc
[10:54] <bergos> hi
[10:54] <bergos> how do i change language of KDM? it seems that its in slovak or something by default
[10:54] <ubuntu_> ok I'll just try downloading the alternate CD and give that a try, thanks for the help
[10:55] <mattikoo> I tried reinstall corrupted packages with command : dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}'|xargs sudo apt-get --reinstall -y --force-yes install. I got error message: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle. Have I any possiblities to continue system fixing?
[10:55] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: no prob. I assume you have the net on your Linux box?
[10:55] <angasule_> bergos: in the system settings, go to 'login manager', it has the option to change the language
[10:55] <bergos> also i get a white screen when trying to use xgl
[10:56] <eds01> the stuff on my screen extends off the moniter.  If i'm just in the terminal, before Xservers started up, the command i'm typeing's a line or two below the screen (after the screen fills up with the other commands, of course), and if i just press maximize on something after the xservers started, i can only see hald of the quit thing, the other half's outside the moniter
[10:56] <angasule_> bergos: xgl is unstable as hell
[10:56] <eds01> anyone have any idea's?
[10:56] <holy_cow> Riddell, you just edit samba.conf or do you use a gui?
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> bergos, do you know how i can change some of the xgl settings
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> holy_cow, there is a way
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> kcmconf or something like that
[10:57] <holy_cow> I'm all ears..eh..eyes =)
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> holy_cow: The cleanest way is just to edit smb.conf (syntax is pretty simple)
[10:57] <holy_cow> alright
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> holy_cow, i don't remember the command...sorry
[10:57] <holy_cow> I've done it before, just figured a GUI would be nice if it was native
[10:58] <holy_cow> but I'll edit away :)
[10:58] <kubuntu_newbie> hooray
[10:58] <kubuntu_newbie> I installed firefox ;)
[10:59] <zorgluuu> :)
[10:59] <eds01> ^_^
[10:59] <bergos> kubuntu_newbie: hehe =)
[10:59] <flukej-walker> kubuntu_newbie: have you tried the EasyUbuntu script?
[10:59] <Riddell> holy_cow: I have no windows machines so it's hard for me to test it
[10:59] <kubuntu_newbie> er no?
[10:59] <kubuntu_newbie> what's that
[10:59] <kubuntu_newbie> I used adept
[10:59] <zorgluuu> !easyubuntu
[10:59] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:59] <eds01> you can also use apt-get
[11:00] <eds01> its also pretty simple
[11:00] <kubuntu_newbie> yes
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> holy_cow, the command had a GUI
[11:00] <eds01> just type in sudo apt-get install <foo> into the terminal, and give it your password
[11:01] <eds01> anyway, does anyone know how to make the stuff on the screen not extened off my moniter?
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> what stuff?
[11:01] <kubuntu_newbie> e.g. I want to install mjoo .. some audio software .. but it isn't available as paket ..  it needs to be downloaded ..  and uses gtk+ 2.8 and python 2.4
[11:02] <eds01> well, for instance, before i start x server, the commands can og off the screen - the bottom of the scren apears to be about a line or two below where the moniter ends
[11:02] <james_xxx> is there a free version of win4lin?
[11:03] <eds01> and when i maximise the windo, i can bearly see the X thing in the top right of the window
[11:03] <flukej-walker> kubuntu_newbie: that easyubuntu script installs all kinds of stuff, mp3 support, some codecs
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> eds01,  you mean the console? thers some fbset commands, or adjust your monitor.. or disable the framebuffer support, or change the res/mode of the framebuffer-console.
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> :P
[11:03] <kubuntu_newbie> ok I will check it out
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> eds01,  you got a lcd or crt monitor?
[11:04] <eds01> lcd
[11:04] <bergos> wich packages are needed to run xgl?
[11:04] <bergos> with kde
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> eds01,  thats very weird. normally lcd's dont have that issue.
[11:04] <eds01> it did a similar thing when i had it hooked up to my sisters compy after i installed debian
[11:04] <angasule_> all kdm themes seems to have a problem, displaying a white box below the user list, does anyone know the solution to this? I googled and it looks like a common problem, but no solution was mentioned
[11:05] <eds01> except it just chopped off the first few letters of words in the terminal
[11:05] <angasule_> !xgl
[11:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> eds01: auto image adjust (your lcd may have a similar function)
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> eds01: I presume you are not using dvi
[11:06] <eds01> i dont beleive so
[11:07] <h3sp4wn> You will probably have an auto image adjust function somewhere in the menus
[11:07] <eds01> i just did the auto adjust, and it appeard to work
[11:07] <eds01> i'm going to stop the Xserver so i can see if it really worked
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> You may have to do it again then (but after a while it just remembers - well mine does)
[11:08] <james_xxx> is there a free version of win4lin?
[11:09] <flukej-walker> !win4lin
[11:09] <grothesk> nalioth:
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win4lin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <grothesk> james_xxx: wine...
[11:10] <jvives> hey all!!! need help... my system is crashing when I turn it off... I have no idea on where can I find some log info on this... how can I identify the source of the crash?
[11:10] <james_xxx> grothesk: i have a very, very old scanner that apparently cannot be used in linux. do you think it would be possible to install the windows drivers for it and use it with wine?
[11:11] <flukej-walker> jvives: have you tried shuting down from the terminal?
[11:11] <james_xxx> ok i guess grothesk left lol
[11:12] <flukej-walker> jvives:that way, you can see the point at which it crashes
[11:12] <james_xxx> i have a very, very old scanner that apparently cannot be used in linux. would anyone know if it would be possible to install the windows drivers for it and use it with wine?
[11:13] <bergos> LOL no wonder xgl  did not work for me i didnt have proto! omg i suck so badly sometimes
[11:13] <lupine_85> james_xxx: I believe there is a way/project for doing that, but it's name escapes me for now.
[11:13] <lupine_85> Probably something to do with TWAIN
[11:13] <lupine_85> !twain
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <james_xxx> you don't mean sane?
[11:14] <flukej-walker> !sane
[11:14] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[11:14] <bergos> twain is windows 98/2000 image aquiring technique
[11:14] <bergos> me/xp uses wia instead
[11:14] <jvives> flukej-walker: I'll do that next time, thx
[11:14] <james_xxx> cool, that might be what i need.
[11:15] <james_xxx> 98/2000 would be fine. this scanner is 10 years old or so
[11:15] <flukej-walker> jvives:if you can't get an idea there, you might have to go dig in some logs, but I'm no help there
[11:15] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: Is it scsi ?
[11:15] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: yes
[11:16] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: Is the scsi card working properly ? is it ISA / PCI ?
[11:16] <h3sp4wn> most scsi scanners can work
[11:16] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: i think it is ISA... is that the longer one?
[11:17] <lupine_85> long and black
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: black socket - 2 parts one short one longer
[11:17] <james_xxx> yes, it is ISA
[11:17] <lupine_85> Windows drivers are TWAIN
[11:17] <lupine_85> Google says TWAIN 2.0 looks like it will be supported on *nix - but that hardly helps you know
[11:17] <james_xxx> i do have a scsi PCI card here, though
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> is the scsi card detected ?
[11:18] <beregos> minor problem still
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> (anywhere in dmesg)
[11:18] <james_xxx> lupine_85: i could wait a few months, it has been collecting dust for a year or more anyways
[11:18] <beregos> my titlebars has disappeared
[11:18] <beregos> how do i fix it?
[11:18] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: let me check
[11:19] <lupine_85> no idea as to timescale, but http://www.twain.org/docs/twain_20_unix.htm
[11:19] <jt__> hello again...
[11:19] <jt__> can anyone get katapult to work with amarok now?
[11:19] <jt__> it used to work well, and was really useful
[11:19] <flukej-walker>  i can
[11:20] <jt__> what version of amarok do you run?
[11:20] <flukej-walker> um let me check
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> jt__, not me, katapult borked out on me
[11:20] <jt__> :(
[11:21] <jt__> do you get an item in the playlist like: "from ... stream"
[11:21] <flukej-walker> jt__: i have 1.4.2
[11:21] <flukej-walker> Aug 31, 2006 build
[11:22] <jt__> bah, thanks
[11:22] <jt__> that's the same version as me
[11:22] <flukej-walker> do you mean, where you type the song name, and it plays it?
[11:22] <jt__> yeah
[11:22] <flukej-walker> let me double check that
[11:22] <jt__> it finds the song OK, but doesnt load it into the playlist properly
[11:23] <flukej-walker> does it give you an error?
[11:23] <jt__> nope
[11:23] <flukej-walker> hmm
[11:24] <jt__> !pastebin
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:24] <flukej-walker> on mine, it pops up an error, then has a blank playlist item that says from
[11:24] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: i have looked all through dmesg , and see nothing about scsi.... however, the scanner does power up, if that means anything
[11:26] <jt__> flukej-walker: that's exactly what happens to me
[11:26] <jt__> hadnt noticed the error before
[11:26] <flukej-walker> hmm
[11:26] <flukej-walker> this ver. of amarok doesn't load my visulisations either
[11:27] <jt__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22555
[11:27] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: i may ask you about this again sometime later, as i have to leave
[11:27] <james_xxx> thanks for the help and the info, all!
[11:28] <flukej-walker> jt__: did you notice the error's URL starts with a period?
[11:29] <jt__> yeah, that's wrong isnt it
[11:29] <flukej-walker> i think
[11:29] <jt__> i had a look at the katapult source a while ago
[11:29] <jt__> and couldnt work out what was going on :(
[11:30] <flukej-walker> i wonder if it is katapult and not amarok?
[11:30] <jt__> i would guess it is katapult that needs to be changed
[11:31] <jt__> maybe the amarok dcop call format changed or soemthing
[11:31] <flukej-walker> i bet katapult needs to update
[11:31] <flukej-walker> it is prob not configed for 1.4.2
[11:31] <flukej-walker> its a pretty recent update
[11:32] <h3sp4wn> You need a newer libvisual 0.4 (I think) for visualisations to work on 1.4.2
[11:32] <flukej-walker> yeah
[11:32] <flukej-walker> i had that prob too
[11:32] <jt__> yeah - I've tried the svn katapult to see if it's fixed there, but no luck
[11:32] <flukej-walker> i guess we'll have to wait
[11:32] <flukej-walker> or downgrade amarok
[11:32] <jt__> :'( it was such a useful feature
[11:32] <flukej-walker> it was indeed
[11:33] <flukej-walker> perhaps a moment of silence for its passing
[11:33] <jt__> lol
[11:33] <flukej-walker> lol
[11:34] <ryanakca> can I delete /tmp/sess_* ?
[11:35] <flukej-walker> ryanakac: I imagine anything in the /tmp/ folder is ok to delete
[11:36] <flukej-walker> ryanakac: you might want to reboot though, to make sure a proc isn't using it
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody about 5.1 surround setting up?
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> i have:  Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> and 2channel from 6 are working
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> but the other 2 jacks that originally line in and mic
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> is used for input
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> and i can't set it to output
[11:43] <flukej-walker> i have a Creative ZS2 Notebook PCMCIA card that gives me my 5.1
[11:44] <flukej-walker> are you using OSS, or ALSA?
[11:44] <flukej-walker> ALSA let me use mine just fine
[11:45] <milco> i got some items on my desktop which can only be started using sudo... under /root access
[11:46] <milco> how do i manage to get this done?
[11:46] <flukej-walker> milco: are they on your /home/Desktop?
[11:47] <flukej-walker> milco: are they programs, media, devices?
[11:47] <milco> no
[11:47] <milco> games, Quake 4 / Doom 3 - Doom3 Classic
[11:48] <flukej-walker> ah
[11:48] <milco> they reside in /usr/local/games
[11:48] <flukej-walker> ok
[11:48] <milco> i dont wanne start everything trough a console..
[11:48] <flukej-walker> the /usr/ folder can only be written to by root
[11:49] <flukej-walker> if you access them through a link, you might be able to set the command to 'sudo ****'
[11:49] <jt__> milco: put a menu item or shortcut to 'kdesu binaryname'
[11:50] <jt__> then you will get the nice inputbox to put your password in
[11:50] <pekay> Why does amarok upgrade from 1.3.9 to 1.4.0 break?
[11:51] <flukej-walker> pekay: break how?
[11:51] <pekay> flukej-walker: shows as BREAK, and libipf isnt available or something :/
[11:52] <pekay> flukej-walker: shows as BREAK, and libipf isnt available or something :/
[11:53] <flukej-walker> pekay: you might want to try uninstalling (removing) and then installing the newest version
[11:55] <pekay> flukej-walker: ah, i added the extra repositories, and it's there
[11:55] <flukej-walker> ok
[11:59] <bobbyd> hi
[11:59] <bobbyd> is anyone using kdevelop extensively under dapper?
[12:00] <bobbyd> i get a crash on exit that's corrupting my projects
[12:00] <grothesk> Is someone very well informed about powermanagement in the channel?
[12:00] <bobbyd> I'm trying to get a repro case just now
[12:00] <bobbyd> grothesk, what do you want to know?
[12:00] <Ub3r-L33ch> ok guys I tried installing via Kubuntu Alternate CD, I still couldnt get the software RAID configuration to work
[12:01] <hasenkamp> hello everybody... I got the update for the new kernel and my wireles desapear... how do i fix it?
[12:01] <Ub3r-L33ch> I went to:  Configure Software RAID > Keep Current Partition Layout and Configure RAID - yes > Create MD device > RAID 0 > I get message "No RAID Partitions Available"
[12:01] <grothesk> bobbyd: when resuming from hibernate, my sound is missing, when resuming from 'Ruhezustand' (don't know the english expression) my touchpad is missing.
[12:02] <grothesk> Which skripts are reposible for resuming?
[12:02] <bobbyd> grothesk, check the syslog for any messages about those drivers
[12:03] <bobbyd> grothesk, I know the hibernate one is "hibernate" and that it tries to do some stuff with drivers that don't hibernate well
[12:03] <bobbyd> I think you can specify some drivers to unload and reload when it resumes
[12:04] <bobbyd> it runs "pmi action suspend" when it hibernates (that is suspend to disk)
[12:05] <Ub3r-L33ch> can anyone help me with software RAID install?
[12:05] <bobbyd> Ub3r-L33ch, what's the problem?
[12:06] <Ub3r-L33ch> when I go to Config Software Raid and try to "Create MD device" on RAID 0 - it says "No RAID partitions Available"
[12:06] <Ub3r-L33ch> I'm using the Alternate install CD
[12:07] <grothesk> bobbyd: ksystemlog doesn't tell me anything useful.
[12:08] <grothesk> But why is resuming from hibernate different than resuming from suspend2ram?
[12:08] <bobbyd> grothesk, run "pmi action suspend" from a console and see what ir says
[12:09] <bobbyd> grothesk, no idea :)